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Unknown: Hey, kids. Stop petting
dead animals. Adam Curry. John C
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Dvorak, 22nd 2024 this is your
award winning given nation media
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assassination episode 1723. This
is no agenda.
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Barreling down the mountain and
broadcasting live from the heart
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of Da Vinci's hometown here in
Florence, Italy, in the morning.
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Everybody, I'm Adam Curry. I'm
from Northern Silicon Valley,
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where it's wet. I'm Gene C
Dvorak Bucha.
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That's all you got. It's just
wet. It's just wet. Everybody, I
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thought you're gonna be in
Amsterdam. No, I was in
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Amsterdam the first day, and
then we're in now. We're in
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Florence, because we're here for
Christmas,
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and I understood that you were
going to go to right to Italy
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and to do whatever it was you're
doing, and then go to Amsterdam
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and do the show there. Well, you
have it exactly backwards now,
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don't you, obviously. Now we
went to Amsterdam first to do
0:56
some stuff there, and then we
went to Italy for my brother in
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law's 60th birthday, and we're
staying. We're going to be here
1:04
for Christmas.
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That's, that's what's going on.
I can't, how did, how could you
1:09
get that so wrong? I have no
idea. It's unbelievable. So we
1:14
almost didn't make it tonight
for the show, which was rather
1:17
exciting. Yeah, well, this is
going to be interesting story,
1:21
maybe not. Well, let's hope it
is. But I do have a travel
1:25
report. So, so, you know, we
came to let me, let me start at
1:28
the beginning. So Monday night,
before we left, we had the
1:33
booster Grand Ball live in
Austin at antones, which was,
1:37
you know, a hootenanny. We had
six bands. It was all streaming
1:40
live on the modern podcast apps.
It was an amazing time. I just
1:44
needed to say this because there
was a guy named Parker who, if
1:48
he hasn't, will be contacting
you. He's doing a documentary on
1:51
value for value.
1:53
And of course, I said I'll
participate, but only if you
1:57
also interview John. Has he
reached out yet?
2:00
No, never heard of him.
2:05
Well, there you go.
2:07
He will, oh, he might be an
email somewhere, and you just
2:10
haven't seen as possible. I'll
make sure we can, because, you
2:13
know, you can't do a value for
value documentary without your
2:16
side. You know, this is very
important. And this guy, he's
2:20
from New York. He's shaking, you
know, walking into antones, and
2:25
he's, you know, he's doing stuff
for the setup. He's shaking,
2:28
visibly. Shake. Said, what's
going on? He said, I'm so sorry.
2:32
I'm trying to organize Airbnbs.
I'm trying to get my family out
2:36
of New York because an Army
Ranger buddy of mine told me
2:39
that there's a loose Nuke, and
that's what all these drones are
2:42
looking for. I said, Sit down,
son. Oh brother. But this is
2:46
the, this is the degree to which
that Psy op went. He was, he's
2:50
still going on. Are you kidding?
Yeah, it is, it is to a degree
2:54
which is, of course, what I
predicted. I think you were
2:57
going for another week. You
think even I thought the
2:59
shutdown, phony shutdown kind of
kind of got rid of that, I guess
3:03
not
3:05
anyway. So
3:06
you milk it. You got it going.
They are definitely milking.
3:09
Yeah, they're milking. What else
can we do with this thing? So
3:14
having meetings as we speak
anyway. So we finally, so we
3:18
stay overnight, shake, and
3:20
it was, this is the level that
you know that the psyops go to.
3:25
He was trying to get an Airbnb
for his family in West Virginia,
3:29
or something like, Dude.
3:34
Anyway. So we go back Tuesday,
and then Wednesday morning we
3:37
leave, we get on the plane, and
we're flying to New York First,
3:41
which I never like to do,
because New York is always a
3:43
problem. If you're connecting in
New York and you're better off
3:47
connecting in Atlanta, which we
couldn't get with the timing. So
3:51
on the way back, we're
connecting in Atlanta. So, you
3:53
know, we've got, like, an hour
and a half layover, and yeah, of
3:56
course, lo and behold, before
we're starting to board, we're
4:00
sorry,
4:02
that we're going to be delayed
at least another hour, which to
4:04
me, means, Okay, that'll be
another two hours, and the rest
4:09
and the reasons is delta. The
reason was they were out of
4:12
pilots,
4:14
which typically does not happen
in the middle of the month, and
4:18
they had given our pilot to
another flight, and we're flying
4:21
in a new pilot for us from
Detroit, and
4:25
he had not gotten on the plane
in Detroit yet. So, yeah, it's
4:29
just like, how's that an hour?
No, it's two, four. We had a
4:32
four hour delay. Oh, it took
forever, so forever to get out.
4:36
By the way, TSA and image
recognition, facial recognition
4:41
is everywhere, including
boarding on Delta international
4:45
flight. Now you'll recall if you
get it on international flight,
4:48
you stand in the line, you you
show you show the check in
4:52
agent, you show them your
boarding pass and your passport.
4:55
Please have your passport open
to the picture page. You recall
4:58
this, right? You.
5:00
Course, yeah, well, that's no
more. Just keep everything in
5:03
your pocket. Just look in this
little screen. Boom, welcome
5:07
aboard.
5:09
So no boarding pass, no
passport, it's all in the
5:13
system.
5:17
Yeah, exactly sounds spoofable.
5:23
Anyway, so we get into
Amsterdam. I was going to do a
5:26
TV interview, so we do, we're
late. But anyway, it all worked
5:29
out fine. And the next day, we
get up on time, and we fly to
5:34
Florence. Short flight, hour and
a half. We land in Florence, a
5:37
very small airport. There's, you
know, you know, you, you, they
5:42
shove a stair to the plane so
you, you're walking on the
5:44
tarmac. Yeah, one of those
deals, you're walking into the
5:47
baggage on beach and like, I'm
just gonna go the bathroom for a
5:51
second. I walk in the bathroom.
As I'm walking out, I hear
5:54
they're eating the dogs.
5:59
So there's, you know, one of our
producers with his, uh, with his
6:03
wife, Alex and Annie, like, Hi.
How you doing? I thought you
6:05
guys, I was hoping you might be
on our flight. He's yelling
6:08
they're eating the dogs in the
airport bathroom.
6:13
Christmas. That's a good one. It
was good. But I didn't it didn't
6:18
feel go. ITM no jarring. No, he
started off with her eating the
6:22
dogs.
6:28
So we're so we were in downtown.
Florence is fantastic, you know.
6:32
So we have a nice evening. So,
you know, for us to have a nice
6:36
dinner, and the next day, we're
gonna go off into the mountains.
6:39
And everybody you talk to here
6:43
the minute they hear you from
America, so they'll be talking
6:45
with you like, you know the guy
in the restaurant. He says, Can
6:49
I ask you,
6:51
what do you they're real
careful, but do you think of
6:54
Trump? And we go, like, yeah,
yeah. We think he's great. I
6:58
love Trump. Trump has big balls.
He's very good. We love Trump.
7:02
Everybody here loves Trump. Oh,
but they're reluctant to very,
7:07
Oh, that's interesting, because
of the blowback they get from
7:10
the Democrats. Exactly.
Obviously, everybody you talk to
7:14
is, well, especially the
restaurants and retailers. Ah,
7:17
no, Italy where Maloney is, you
know, she is obviously a Trump.
7:23
Well, he's going to be big, by
the way. I saw a picture, not to
7:26
change the subject, but I saw a
picture of her, I guess, when
7:29
she was in the United States and
she was with Biden, she was
7:32
like, she had his head on this.
She has got some sort of
7:36
granddad thing with Biden, and
she feels bad about I mean,
7:40
we've noticed this over the last
couple of years, that Maloney is
7:44
really got something going on
with Biden. She feels bad
7:50
about what it is. And so, you
know, I actually, I said to a
7:52
couple of these people, I said,
So, but, you know, you've got
7:55
Maloney. Yes, Maloney has big
balls too, but, but she like a
7:59
Biden, she'd like a Trump. She'd
like Elon. Elon, Elon, who, oh,
8:04
Elon. Because, you know, she had
to have Elon. She's all hot and
8:08
heavy for Elon, according to
everybody here, because she had,
8:11
I didn't know that, yeah, she
had him give him, give her an
8:15
award. And had, you know,
specifically requested, yes,
8:18
this did crop up. Yeah. And
then, of course, they all talk
8:22
about tariffs, which will be my,
actually, will be my first,
8:26
first clip,
8:30
because they're very worried
about the tariffs. You know,
8:32
they've all been psyoped here.
And you know, it's like, oh no.
8:35
We think Trump is good, but, you
know, it's not good for our for
8:38
our economy, because we can't
export our goods. Be big
8:41
tariffs, and Trump is going to
punish us. I've got my I got my
8:46
Italian English.
8:49
I don't know if you got it good
or not. So there's this you
8:51
have. There's this huge article
in the Financial Times yesterday
8:55
morning, and I got a copy of it
here for you. Trump wants 5%
9:02
NATO defense spending target. So
now remember it was 2% GDP for
9:10
all NATO members. Now Trump
somehow through the Financial
9:14
Times, because he hasn't said it
anywhere himself.
9:17
No. Donald Trump's team has told
European officials that the
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incoming US president will
demand NATO member states
9:24
increase defense spending to 5%
of GDP, like this is a front
9:30
page of the Financial Times. So
I'm reading through this and
9:33
then a little bit further down,
it says one person said they
9:36
understood that Trump he would
settle for 3.5%
9:40
but he was explicitly planning
to link higher defense spending
9:44
and the offer of more valuable
trading terms with the US. So
9:48
what he's doing here is just is,
is very interesting, because of
9:52
course, 5% three and a half
percent, two and a half percent,
9:55
is all going to be spent on us,
on our companies. Defense
9:59
spending means.
10:00
Buying from Boeing and Raytheon
and and our guys, as far as I
10:04
know, they may, they're trying.
There are European suppliers a
10:08
certain thing, yes, not kind of,
no, it's, it's not that kind of
10:11
money. And so then not to
leverage rehab and so, so He's
10:14
tying that to tariffs. And, you
know, so the message is, well,
10:17
you know, everyone paid 5% but
yeah, take three and a half,
10:23
which is still almost double the
2% and then maybe I'll go easy
10:26
on your tariff. So he's already
dealing. And then,
10:31
as if just by God's grace, our
boy rutza comes out and talks
10:37
about this, this big European
Union meeting going on. So
10:40
everyone's out there talking,
and our friend Mark Richard
10:45
comes out. But you know, I won't
talk about what is in the
10:48
Financial Times this morning,
but I will talk about it because
10:51
I think I'm working for Trump. I
saw the piece in the FT today,
10:55
and this 3% being mentioned, and
I decided today, not to mention
10:59
a new figure, we will need more
time to consult amongst allies.
11:04
Yes, we don't talk about the 5%
what exactly the new level
11:09
should be, but it is
considerably more than 2% but
11:13
let me be very frank, if you
would only spend more and not
11:16
spend better, you have to go to
at least 4%
11:20
you can lower the 4% by doing
two things. One is innovation,
11:24
making sure that you get the
most innovative technology
11:27
innovative as part of your
defense industrial base, and
11:31
therefore in your defense
organization. And secondly, by
11:35
buying together. I love this
guy. He's like, hey, you know
11:38
three and a half, three and a
half percent, okay, but maybe 4%
11:42
if you make it smart in
innovative so join procurement.
11:47
And as I said in my speech, we
have to get rid of that, that
11:51
idiotic system where every ally
is having these detailed
11:55
requirements, which makes it
almost impossible to buy
11:59
together, to have joint
procurement, etc. So it is
12:02
crucial that we spend not only
more, but also better, because
12:05
otherwise the potential impact
will be huge. And then even with
12:09
4% you can defend yourselves,
because then you would not have
12:12
the latest technologies
implemented in the in your
12:17
defense organizations, in your
in your armies, in your navy, in
12:20
your in the whole community,
this guy is such a tool that he
12:23
didn't even read the article.
Trump's already at three and a
12:25
half, and he's trying to
negotiate down to four. What a
12:29
tool.
12:31
This is amazing.
12:35
The guy, yeah, what a what a
numb everybody here is laughing
12:39
about him. Anyway, so we went up
to the mountain last night to it
12:44
was like, it was a fun, fun,
fun, fun party was, I think, 18
12:48
people,
12:50
you know, my sister, both
sisters were there, of course,
12:53
and their kids, and we're all
hanging out in this, you know,
12:57
you have to go up with this with
a bus. It's an hour, about an
13:00
hour and a half from Florence,
and there's snow, and it's
13:04
completely idyllic. And we come
down with, and you go up with
13:08
the cable car the last bit of
the way, the whole thing's
13:10
perfect. And we're supposed to
leave at 330 which would get me
13:14
here in time to still do some
prep work before,
13:19
before the show starts, and we
get down to the bus, and the
13:23
guy's like, Well, my left
windshield wiper motor broke. I
13:26
can't drive because now it's,
it's, you know, it's sleet or
13:29
it's raining. And I'm like, Oh,
crap, you know, I got to find a
13:33
cab. The closest cab is an hour
away. Does it take an hour for
13:37
him to get here? I'm like, I'm
never going to make this and
13:41
then the Italians dedication to
the show. Ladies and gentlemen,
13:44
make sure you pay attention to
what he's talking about.
13:49
It was like, Oh, this cab ride
will cost you 400 euros. Like, I
13:52
don't know. We got to get to the
show. So we got to get home.
13:56
What are we going to I'm sorry,
well, and there's like, and the
14:03
cab's not answering. And you
know, Willow, of course, is
14:06
fluent in Italian. She's trying
to figure it out. And I say,
14:09
Will anybody drive? And Tina's
like, hold on, hold on. I said,
14:12
I don't want any nut job Italian
driving us home. Hold on. A
14:15
second. And then, meanwhile, my
nephews, they had done the most
14:20
Italian thing ever. They bribed
the driver and said, You just
14:23
you drive down halfway down the
mountain before you get on the
14:26
highway, bribe the driver, yes,
before we get on the highway,
14:30
you have another bus to pick us
up. And they arranged it. And so
14:33
we still got here later than
expected. But anyway, it was, it
14:37
was an Italian a total Italian
caper. Loved it, you know, the
14:41
guy, I can lose my license. Ah,
here, here's the euro. I'm good,
14:48
yeah, I'm good, I'm good, I'll
get you guys home.
14:53
That was good. It was good. It
was in, you know? And so we're
14:55
here, and then we're gonna spend
Christmas here, and then go back
14:58
to Amsterdam. And.
15:00
And then spend one more day to
do the show on Thursday, and
15:02
then we'll fly back home. So
that's where I got Mr. I did.
15:06
You probably told me that I want
to thank stroke Bill, Bill
15:10
Walsh, for the the last episode
of Best of episode. I could not
15:17
have wished for a better
response. I know what you saw.
15:21
But everybody was just, Oh, my
God. This was such a great
15:25
episode, but
15:27
it freaked me out. I hated going
back to that, you know, I it was
15:32
a reminder. Are we going into
that again with this bird flu
15:35
nonsense? I think Bill did a
great job. He really did. He was
15:40
he was irked we didn't use his
art. But I thought, Nick the
15:43
racks art, Nick the rats art was
great. And the title, of course,
15:47
you know, we didn't say COVID
retrospect. We didn't use his
15:50
art stroke. We have artists.
That's stroky bill.
15:53
And you know, we didn't use his
title, COVID retrospective to
15:57
instead, was this really
happened, which you suggested,
15:59
which was a great title, and I
think it really set the mood.
16:02
And people enjoyed it. You know,
they enjoyed it. And as far as
16:06
you can enjoy this kind of a
look back, and a lot of people
16:10
said, Boy, how quickly we've
forgotten that lies, because
16:14
this took us up to the vaccine.
This didn't, this didn't even
16:17
include the vaccine nonsense.
No, this is just the pre lies,
16:20
yeah, the
16:23
pre
16:25
lies, yeah, it's just just a
lot, yeah, set up lies. Set up
16:29
lies. So
16:32
anyway, you know, there was, I
don't have this clip, but there
16:35
was,
16:36
I guess, Harvey Mandel has a
podcast,
16:41
not Harvey, okay. Howie Mandel,
yeah, how he's got it, you know,
16:46
who is a germaphobe and big
with, with RFK, Jr, yeah. Did
16:53
you see the any clips from that?
I saw the clip, but they, they
16:57
didn't the one where he with
Howie Mandel and his whole crew,
17:01
couldn't believe that all these
people had said,
17:06
The shot is safe, effective, and
you won't get COVID. You can't
17:09
give COVID to anybody. And like,
no, that didn't happen.
17:13
That's the clip. Stunned by
this. It was quite, quite
17:17
amazing. And I think Kennedy was
stunned too. He is going, Wait a
17:21
minute, I got clips here if you
want to hear him, and they
17:24
wouldn't play him, but it's like
they were in denial. Is that you
17:28
think denial or ignorance? I
mean, I can't put my finger on
17:32
it, but it was like, Wait a
minute. If you're going to be
17:34
doing these public podcasts like
this, you have to have some
17:38
basic knowledge. It seems to me,
17:42
maybe you can, I can find the
clip real quick. Well, the thing
17:44
that at the very end, because
he's saying, you know, Fauci was
17:47
saying this, and then says
Rachel Maddow, and then Howie
17:50
Mandel goes, Oh, well, Rachel
Maddow doesn't count. Like all
17:54
of a sudden, Rachel Maddow is no
good. You know, you know, he's
17:56
all up her butt. Here I have the
clip.
17:59
They say what they're saying.
Out of 22,000 people, there was
18:03
one COVID death among the
vaccinated, and there was two
18:06
COVID deaths on the
unvaccinated. 22,000 people, so
18:11
and that that allowed them to
claim it's 100% effective,
18:14
effective for what you can't you
remember? They kept saying it's
18:19
100% effective? No, they just
said it really. You go on the
18:24
internet, you can see Tony
Fauci, but the word effective
18:27
didn't say you won't get, I
never heard you won't get COVID.
18:30
Oh, yeah. Well, there's a
different subject. But yeah. In
18:33
fact, I saw a tape yesterday of
them, all of Biden Fauci, gates,
18:38
you know, Burla, all of them
saying, if you take the vaccine,
18:42
Rachel Maddow,
18:44
if you take the vaccine, you
can't get COVID. You can't pass
18:47
COVID. I didn't see that. Okay.
Well, you know what? Can I play
18:50
it for you? Yeah, all right.
18:53
It doesn't matter what Rachel
Oh, really they say what they're
18:58
saying.
18:59
There you go. It doesn't matter
what Rachel Mano said. Oh my
19:04
gosh.
19:06
Well, this is the state of the
podcasting world. Thanks to you.
19:10
So now it's my fault
19:12
that Harvard Mandel, what's his
name?
19:16
Harvard? That's even better,
Harvard. Mandel. Harvard.
19:20
Mandel. That he Well, you know
what happened was, when it
19:23
didn't work out that way, they
switched the messaging. I guess
19:26
the last messaging is what weak
minded sisters remember. Final
19:30
messaging was still, because
floors me as my absolute
19:33
favorite. I was almost gonna
pull a clip for today's show we
19:37
should have. They all had shots,
and then they all got COVID. And
19:41
then, and they changed the
messaging to, well, you won't be
19:44
hospitalized, you won't have any
severe symptoms, which is
19:47
proving a negative. There's no
way of proving that. Yeah.
19:53
And that was the message they
switched. Well, yeah, you might
19:56
get it. But yeah, yeah. And then
he had these people coming out.
20:00
Like, Oh, I got, I just picked I
had COVID. Luckily, I had this
20:03
shot, yeah, what? Yeah, so that
you wouldn't be so severe and
20:08
you won't have to go to the
hospital. That's, that's the
20:10
only messaging they remember,
because I think their brains are
20:13
so small that it's, you know, in
and out. Like, you put messaging
20:17
in and, oh, here comes new
messaging. God, what do I do
20:19
with this message? Oh, yeah, I
get rid of it, right? There is
20:21
a, there's, is definitely a last
in, first out. Yeah. Issue here
20:27
where they don't remember
anything that took place before
20:30
the last message. It's crazy,
crazy. So, well, I mean, so it's
20:36
unbelievable. They're still
trying to do this, this this
20:40
bird flu thing, ever since, uh,
what's his face?
20:46
Um, Hotep, ever since he said,
Oh, it's all coming. Oh, it's
20:49
all it's January 21 is when it
all starts. All these viruses
20:54
are coming. Here's, here's. NPR,
this is a short clip, very good
20:57
summary. And I have many more if
we want to listen to him, a very
21:01
good summary of this one
patient. So one patient is not
21:07
doing too well. This one patient
is 60 over 65 we only know he's
21:12
he or she is over 65 has pre
existing conditions. This was a
21:16
big one during COVID. All the
people who had to go on the vent
21:20
had pre existing conditions, and
that's all we really know for
21:23
privacy reasons. But you know,
this thing could jump from human
21:28
to human pretty soon, you know.
But do you worry that a virus is
21:34
getting stronger? John Connor,
who's a professor at Boston,
21:38
says viruses are essentially
right now going to the gym and
21:42
getting stronger. You know, when
they spread, this is NPR talks
21:46
to professor. The professor
says, Well, right now the
21:48
viruses are going to the gym and
getting stronger. Okay, NPR, as
21:53
viruses are essentially, right
now, going to the gym and
21:56
getting stronger. You know, when
they spread, birds, cows, other
22:00
animals, they're mutating
potentially. So do you worry
22:04
about that as well? You know,
Robin, I'm in public health, so
22:07
it's my job to worry. Yes, I am
worried, yes, but the stronger
22:11
that I'm worried about is less
about how bad an individual
22:15
infection is, as worried as I am
about that. It's more about the
22:18
ability for this virus to stick
better to humans, and the
22:25
stickier it becomes to humans,
the higher the probability that
22:28
we get transmission from person
to person. Now, if that happens,
22:33
the severity of this illness
will be something we consider.
22:35
But we've known for some time
that this influenza could cause
22:39
serious illness in people. So
that's pretty well known, and
22:41
it's not surprising to me that
somebody with these pre existing
22:44
conditions would have a serious
case. But what I'm watching for
22:47
is the stickiness, the increased
probability that we're seeing
22:50
human cases, or if this were to
jump between a human and another
22:54
human. And so as we think about
strength of the virus, I want us
22:57
to think about transmissibility
more than we think about
23:00
severity. These guys are all
getting jacked up again with the
23:02
same messaging.
23:06
Everyone's in on, here's a,
here's a, b, c, and all we have
23:10
the first very severe case,
severe case, according to the C,
23:14
D, C, the very first severe case
of bird flu has been confirmed
23:18
here in the United States.
What's the latest? Starting on a
23:21
serious note, this this year,
more than 60 documented cases of
23:25
human avian influenza. We're
talking about h5 in one,
23:28
otherwise known as bird flu, if
you'll take a look at this map,
23:31
the cases are relatively
widespread. The majority of
23:33
cases, I want you to focus on
California. They have more than
23:36
half of the documentary bird
flu. This comes after the
23:40
throwing up maps. Throwing up
maps, you know, they have snaps.
23:43
We got map. Newsome has to now
announce a state of emergency to
23:47
in order to organize and fight
against this outbreak. And this
23:52
comes after the first, as you
said, severe case of burp less
23:55
Saturn conference with federal
health officials in the CDC
23:58
yesterday to get more
information, here's what you
24:00
need to know about this case.
This patient has a severe
24:03
hospitalized the specifics about
their case are still being
24:06
reported from the Department of
Health in Louisiana. They're
24:08
over the age of 65 and
reportedly, they have become
24:11
exposed to sick or dead birds
within their home, their
24:14
backyard,
24:17
severe respiratory illness. Of
course, as I said, we're still
24:19
getting more details about this
case, but this is certainly an
24:22
inflection point in this
outbreak as we try to contain
24:25
this virus. This is exactly the
same script, although, you know,
24:29
it's not as if it's scary, but
it's exactly the same script,
24:33
respirator, severe respiratory
disease. Oh, we don't know. Is
24:37
the first severe case? How
concerned should we be? Just?
24:40
How big of a threat is this?
Important to know the majority
24:43
of these cases is more than 60.
Cases are patients, people who
24:46
have been exposed to sick or
dead animals. And that seems to
24:49
be where that transmission, that
risk comes from. These animals
24:52
can release this virus in mucus
and saliva, and so petting or
24:55
touching dead animals can
increase that risk. And Hey,
24:58
kids, stop petting dead.
25:00
Animals, this is not a good
idea, not a good idea, of the
25:03
dead animal. Animals can
increase that risk and the
25:06
symptoms to look out for. And
we've received memorandums in
25:09
our emergency rooms to identify
patients who might be at risk,
25:12
symptoms of sore throat, cough,
fever, muscle aches, the typical
25:15
symptoms you would see with the
flu. And the best way to avoid
25:18
is to make sure, number one, if
you have animals, specifically
25:21
wild birds, if you're managing
or a farmer, you have to make
25:25
sure that you're
25:27
taking care and being cautious.
Backyard chickens. They're gonna
25:30
get rid of that. That'll be that
Well, they'd like to wild bird
25:36
and back chicken. No, it's
wasted. Don't pet the chicken a
25:40
mass being mindful of that. But
again, it's majority of those
25:43
who are exposed to sick or dead
animals. So that is where you
25:45
need to take that caution. All
right, let's go to a CBS doctor,
25:48
Celine gounder, who I believe, I
believe, was her husband who
25:52
dropped dead at the at the
Olympics, from no from the shot.
25:56
Well, allegedly, there's no
evidence.
26:00
So let's, let's talk about this.
Is it the same strain as what's
26:04
going on with dairy cattle? It
is not the same strain that we
26:08
have seen in wild birds, and
also the strain involved with
26:12
the teenager who is was
hospitalized in critical
26:15
condition from h5 and one in
British Columbia, Canada. Oh,
26:20
new going on here. There's an h5
n1 and h5 n1
26:26
this different strain of h5 n1
wouldn't that be some other
26:29
designation as opposed to h5 n1
I would think so. It makes no
26:34
sense. It makes no sense. What
she said, No, is it based on
26:39
their own way of their own
nomenclature. It doesn't make
26:42
sense. But okay, let it will
assume is h5 and 1.2, now,
26:46
remember, there's a lot of a lot
of different agendas that are
26:51
going on here. A lot of people
you know are involved in these
26:54
types of psychological
operations against people. So we
26:58
already have the backyard
chickens who can't have that.
27:01
There's still more. But so
people at home hearing this are
27:03
going to say, well, so he was
handling birds. Is there a
27:06
concern now, though, that people
could pass it to other people?
27:10
Very good question. So yes, he
his exposure was sick and dead
27:14
birds. So for those of us at
home, do not handle sick or dead
27:18
animals. Call do not pet the
dead animals, animal control.
27:22
But in terms of human Wait, hold
on a second.
27:25
So you gotta have law. You got
five chickens in your backyard,
27:29
yeah, and one of the chickens
drops dead. Which they do? You
27:33
get old. You know, different
things happen. They get egg
27:35
bound, which is a real problem.
What's egg bound? Oh, that's
27:39
where the eggs get too big and
they can't get them out, and
27:42
they drop dead. Oh, that's that
happens to chickens. It happens
27:46
a lot. In fact, we have a Jay
has a bunch of chickens, and
27:50
she,
27:52
she did a little chicken
background here. That's
27:55
literally too many eggs.com. I
mean, that's
27:59
the information. So she got a
couple of these. She's got
28:02
chickens, and those are the eggs
I use for my raw milk shake for
28:06
the show. And she found one of
the chickens. It just got a nice
28:11
big egg, and it's got double
yolks, yeah, which is a cool egg
28:16
to have, but Mimi gave me a
lecture about these double yolk
28:19
I mean, you run it into them
every once in a while, even the
28:21
jumbo eggs. When you see jumbo
eggs, she says, generally
28:24
speaking, those chickens don't
live a long life because these
28:27
eggs are too big, and they will
get egg bound, and then they
28:31
can't lay the egg and get stuck
in them, and then the next thing
28:34
you know, the chicken's dead. So
by the way, these people are
28:36
talking, if you have a dead
chicken in your backyard, you
28:39
got to call animal control to
pick them up. Are you kidding
28:42
me? Got to call CDC that are
coming with hazmat suits. Give
28:46
me a break. Let's call animal
control. But in terms of human
28:50
to human transition
transmission, the concern is,
28:53
the more we allow spillover into
humans, the more likely at some
28:56
point you might see a mutation
that would allow for human to
28:59
human transmission, because most
people don't come in contact
29:01
with sick or dead birds, right?
They keep talking about, oh,
29:05
it's just, it's just one little
hop before you know it human
29:08
human transmission, then we'll
have a pandemic. Everybody's
29:11
going to die. But whatever you
do, don't drink the raw milk.
29:13
How big of a concern should all
of us feel watching and
29:17
listening to you? Right? So for
the general public, the risk is
29:20
still exceedingly low. The
people who are at risk are farm
29:23
workers, people who handle
domesticated animals livestock,
29:28
and really don't drink raw milk.
It's really not a good idea
29:32
that's happening. And again, if
the more people get exposed to
29:35
this virus, the more likely you
are to see a mutation that will
29:39
allow for human to human
transmission. Man, you say that
29:42
to an Italian, by the way, the
minute you eat some food in
29:46
Italy, you realize right away
what slop we get in America. Oh,
29:50
yeah, Europeans just Italy and
France, both, and even Germany,
29:55
if you go there, but they're all
of throughout the areas. Are
29:59
there?
30:00
Food is just, there's no
comparison, and they like it
30:02
more. It's just better. It's
it's prepared well, and they
30:05
know what they're doing, and
it's delicious, yeah, and, you
30:09
know, so in the morning here, we
had the, you know, they have a
30:12
buffet breakfast. Oh, you like
cheeses. We have a good cheeses.
30:15
I have very good cheeses here.
And the label, food labeling
30:18
here, they have a label which is
zero KM
30:22
means zero kilometers mean that
that cheese came from less than
30:26
one kilometer away, and the
cheese is raw. Oh, it sure is
30:31
sheep cheese, goat cheese, all
kinds of cheese. It's all raw.
30:34
It's all raw milk cheese, and
it's all it's not pasteurized.
30:38
And so the cheeses are so much
better. Because, I mean,
30:41
everyone smells some of that raw
milk cheese can sneak into the
30:45
United States, even though they
make a big fuss. It does. Is
30:48
delicious. It's so good, all of
it, the meats, just everything.
30:53
It's good. And you just think,
oh, man, we get Come on. RFK,
30:58
Jr, you know the FDA is now
talking about, oh, we have to
31:01
change our food labels. We have
to explain what healthy means.
31:05
And so healthy will mean wallet
has some carrots.
31:10
It's ridiculous. We are so far
off base. And I know it's funny.
31:15
And they asked like, so uncle
Adam, what is with the guy who
31:20
killed the CEO. Why is he a
hero? And I say, Well, let me
31:25
explain what the typical cost is
of health insurance. And when I
31:30
say, you know, 1500 bucks, you
get an $8,000 deductible,
31:33
they're like, what we pay 100 we
pay $150
31:37
a month, and then a 300 euros
and a 350 Euro deductible. Said,
31:41
now you might wait in line for
six months. Yeah. I said, that
31:44
sucks, but they can't believe
it. Like, oh well, yeah. Now,
31:47
all of a sudden they get it.
Like, Oh, okay.
31:51
Anyway, let's go to Anne
Thompson with Dr Peter chin
31:56
Hall.
31:58
Oh, hold on a second. So this
guy, he's a local, yeah, so he
32:05
is on the local stations here in
the Bay Area, yes, all the time.
32:10
And he's kind of greasy, and
he's got a funny mustache, and
32:14
he's just like, he's always
like, he's like, a guy who say,
32:17
hey, wipe your wipe your face.
You're all sweaty. And he's
32:22
he is just every time you turn
around, get more shots. The CDC
32:27
says the strain that his
infected dairy cows is different
32:30
from the one that sent the
Louisiana resident to the
32:33
hospital. Nine states have
reported human cases of bird flu
32:37
this year, and tonight,
California has declared a state
32:41
of emergency over the outbreak
to give local agencies more
32:45
resources to prevent it from
becoming a bigger problem.
32:49
People should be alert. They
should be vigilant, but not
32:53
scared. It really reminds us all
to get flu shots right now,
32:58
bird flu and human flu, they can
exchange genes and really make a
33:03
variant that is more easily able
to enter the human body and make
33:08
us more sick. Yeah, easily, it's
easily, it's going to happen.
33:12
How concerned should we be? Just
what is the threat to the
33:15
general public? The good news is
Lester, the CDC, says the threat
33:19
is low. There's no evidence of
personal transmission. It has
33:23
all been from infected animals
to humans, so the advice is to
33:27
avoid sick or dead animals, and
if you own a backyard flock,
33:31
you're a hunter or bird
enthusiast, wear personal
33:35
protective gear, gloves and
masks when dealing with the
33:38
animals. The same is true for
farm workers. Thanks for that
33:41
update. That was great update.
Thank you. So you think that's
33:44
crazy. You think you think that
they're pushing some shots. How
33:48
about the UK
33:51
they've they've pulled a classic
out norovirus, Coronavirus,
33:56
influenza and RSV, which is
another seasonal virus. NHS
34:01
bosses are lumping those four
things together in a thing
34:04
they're calling the quad demic
quad, which they say is a
34:07
massive, massive risk to the NHS
right now. Listen to that music.
34:12
That's the BBC, the quad demic.
34:20
I mean, yeah,
34:29
perfect, perfect, very, good.
Let's learn a little bit about
34:33
the quad demic, shall we?
Because there's something going
34:35
on in the UK, BBC Radio. Be a
long time before we forget the
34:39
rush to find a vaccine for
COVID. 19. You remember those
34:44
months in 2020 when the
development of the mRNA vaccine
34:49
was sped up and eventually led
to this breakthrough that could
34:52
now be used to protect against
another of our most disruptive
34:58
winter bugs.
35:00
Is norovirus? No
35:03
John, before we go to NBC, who
are jumping on this train? What
35:08
is norovirus? Yeah, everyone's
got had a case of, I think I've
35:12
had Noro three times.
35:15
It's, it's a very strange
product you get. It's like, it's
35:21
about, it's like, a, I think it
used to be called a 24 hour flu,
35:24
or the 24 hour bug, yeah, until
they got a cool name for it,
35:29
yeah, when they got the name for
it. But it gives you it's, it
35:32
lasts a day,
35:35
and you end up throwing up and
and having intense diarrhea for
35:39
about one, about 24 hours, and
it's like, you lose five to six
35:45
pounds. It's a one of the best
diet. It's better than
35:49
gets much better nose now,
because it's faster and it kind
35:53
of cleans out. Doesn't do that.
Don't need a shot. Oh, that's
35:56
great. You don't need a shot in
the gut, by the way. Yeah.
35:59
Norovirus comes and goes. It's
usually comes in in groups. We
36:02
had a norovirus recently. There
was, I was watching
36:08
last Norovirus is also free. You
don't have to pay 1000 bucks for
36:13
your ocean. Yes, free. It's when
you get it, you know. You know,
36:17
if you already had Noro, you
know it's Noro because it hits
36:22
you so hard and so fast. And
it's not just debilitating,
36:26
really, except that you have to
sit on the toilet a lot. That's
36:29
kind of debilitating. But
there's a last night's news.
36:33
There was an outbreak of Noro in
out of
36:37
some restaurant, big meet up in
LA and there were came from the
36:42
oysters. Yeah, I have the I have
the clips. You have the clip on
36:46
that too. I have the clips. Let
me see. This is NBC, dr, Natalie
36:52
Azar, you mentioned the UK.
They're caught. They're calling
36:55
what's happening over there, a
quad demo, RSV and norovirus,
37:00
right? What's happening? Yes, so
for so they are seeing right
37:04
now, what the UK is seeing is a
pretty significant rise in flu
37:09
hospitalizations and deaths over
what they saw a year ago. At
37:12
this time, what happens in
Europe is very likely going to
37:16
be mirrored here in North
America. You know, a lot of
37:19
times we follow, or we make
predictions about the flu season
37:23
based on what happened in the
southern hemisphere. This past
37:25
year, the southern hemisphere
had a pretty predictably bad
37:29
season, so we're not
anticipating a season that's
37:32
worse for us here. Ellison,
previous years. This is the
37:35
time, this is the time that we
start to see that vaccination
37:39
rates in the UK aren't that
great for people under the age
37:42
of 65 only 22% are getting
vaccinated. It's not good
37:45
enough. Usually, this year,
we're targeting at about 50% of
37:48
adults getting vaccinated, as we
mentioned, for kids, 39% of kids
37:53
are getting vaccinated this
year. That's significantly lower
37:56
than last year and much, much
too low. But we have time to
37:59
make it up. Flu season is early.
We are not nearly out of the
38:02
woods yet to get vaccinated. Now
you'll be protected for the
38:06
holidays. Yeah, this is the
message. You don't want to be in
38:09
a quademic like those limeies.
Get vaccinated. You look at the
38:12
quademic in the United Kingdom
and the impact of RVs, RSV,
38:16
norovirus, flu and COVID.
38:20
She's,
38:21
I think she said it wrong, did
Jesus are first him, no virus,
38:26
flu and COVID. Should Americans
look at that and say, Okay, it's
38:29
time. Now, even if we missed
what we thought was the window
38:31
to get vaccinated for the flu or
COVID, we should all still go
38:34
100%
38:35
100% 100%
38:37
you missed. You missed a window.
Take the shot anyway. Flu and
38:40
COVID, it is definitely not too
late. RSE is a one and done,
38:45
older and you got the RN member
j and j1 and done speed vaccine
38:49
last year. Great. You're
protected that repeated
38:53
norovirus, the most common
culprit of foodborne illness in
38:56
this country, hand washing, hand
washing, hand washing, and
38:59
staying home if you're sick, you
certainly don't want to get more
39:02
than one of these bugs at the
same time, you're going to feel
39:04
pretty crummy. So here's the LA
report. This is also an NBC, and
39:09
they've Dr Vin Gupta coming in,
but they make it is they can't
39:14
they they know that they're full
of crap. They know what they're
39:18
doing. They know that they are
bending their knee to their big
39:22
pharma overlords, get the shot,
and so they put this package
39:25
together, and the news model
guy, he can't stop laughing
39:29
about it all, all into The
segment.
39:40
Health officials say at least 80
people got sick with norovirus
39:44
after, excuse me, eating raw
oysters. Santa Monica seafood,
39:48
one of the vendors for the
event, tells NBC News they found
39:51
no evidence of mishandling, but
officials are still
39:54
investigating. The FDA is
warning that a bigger outbreak
39:58
linked to oysters and clams,
original.
40:00
From British Columbia were
shipped to the country. Is
40:03
ongoing. They have since been
recalled. NBC News Medical
40:07
contributor, Dr van Gupta joins
us now, doctor, thanks for being
40:11
with us. That
40:13
was a bad choice to show that
clip, because it's not funny to
40:18
have norovirus. So let me just
reset here. This is a nightmare.
40:24
I've had norovirus before. Like,
how quickly could something like
40:28
this spread?
40:31
God, good evening. I prescribe a
glass of water for you. We
40:35
should Norovirus
40:38
is exactly that it spreads
quickly. Unfortunately, you know
40:42
cruise ships, we often hear
about the cruise ship night
40:44
there, where Norovirus is in one
of SA in the buffet or in the
40:49
raw salad, and it spreads
quickly. And part of the reason
40:52
is it sticks onto our hands, it
sticks onto food, and it's hard
40:56
to kill. And so that's why we're
seeing this in oysters. It's not
41:00
surprising. It can happen from
time to time. The fact that it's
41:03
spreading, especially from these
distributors, is, frankly,
41:06
unsurprising, but unfortunately,
just does mean a lot of people
41:09
get really sick. So it's so this
Norovirus is not is it a
41:13
seasonal thing? No, isn't it? Is
it just it happens when it
41:16
happens. I mean, where does it
come from? It just happens when
41:19
it happens.
41:21
Well, it's happening in Canada,
the common cold, the flu and RSV
41:26
with the colder weather and that
pop of someone coughing. Isn't
41:30
that great. I love it. The
common cold, the flu and RSV
41:34
with the colder weather and more
indoor gatherings, respiratory
41:38
viruses.
41:41
So I would like somebody to find
for me to find someone, somebody
41:46
has archives of old, old shows.
I would like to see one piece of
41:52
evidence from a decade ago, just
10 years, not a lot, not 20, not
41:57
50 years ago, where anyone ever
mentioned? RSV,
42:03
yeah, I don't think we have it.
I don't think you can find it
42:06
from five years ago. Well, no,
here's one from 2016
42:14
here's 2016 let's see what this
is. Hold on party was only
42:17
supposed to be for family and
friends, but 10s of 1000s
42:20
descended on a small town in
Mexico Monday for a teenage
42:24
girls traditional 15th birthday
celebration after the
42:27
invitation. Video was
accidentally posted publicly.
42:32
I'm sorry that's RSVPs. No, here
is one.
42:39
I don't have anything before
2021
42:42
not that I have in my clip
archive. So I think, I don't
42:45
think you'll find anything is,
this is a bullshit deal. Let's
42:47
continue. Just added it on there
because they're gonna have some
42:50
vac Oh, and they have the
vaccination. So it's all about
42:52
vaccinations. It's not about
anything, really. That's right,
42:56
and that's yeah,
42:58
play the clip, the common cold,
the flu and RSV, with the colder
43:03
weather and more indoor
gatherings, respiratory viruses
43:06
are on a gentle Upswing across
Canada, a gentle upswing. That's
43:11
the Canadian version of uptick,
and immunologists like Craig
43:15
Jenny are worried, worried. So
what we're seeing across Canada
43:18
is a uptick in a number of these
infections, according to the
43:20
latest numbers from the Public
Health Agency, Public Health
43:23
Agency of Canada released today,
COVID rates are holding steady,
43:27
while RSV, or respiratory
syncytial virus and influenza
43:30
are on the rise, pushing some
Calgary hospitals over capacity.
43:35
There has been, at least in
Alberta, much reduced testing
43:40
for infection. So I think when
we're looking at actual
43:42
confirmed cases, those numbers
may be a little misleading. Very
43:46
young children and the elderly
are the most likely to get
43:49
seriously sick from these
viruses among infants. RSV can
43:53
lead to complications and
hospitalizations, while
43:56
influenza can quadruple the risk
of heart attack and triple the
44:00
risk of stroke among those five
and up, and flu cases are
44:04
expected to increase. I feel
there really is a lot less
44:08
urgency Toronto pharmacist
Serena Hanlon says a month ago
44:11
she was administering flu or
COVID shots every 15 minutes.
44:15
That's changed. Now we're busier
in October than we were compared
44:19
to last year in October, and
then in December, we noticed
44:22
that it sort of just drops off
on a cliff. People who want
44:27
their vaccines have already had
them, with so many Canadians
44:29
coming together for the
holidays. Hanlon, BOGO and Jenny
44:33
all say it's important to try
and limit the spread of viruses
44:37
by avoiding gatherings if you're
feeling unwell and getting
44:40
vaccinated. Yeah, get
vaccinated. This, of course, is
44:44
all over the news, and I could
only find a 32nd clip of a
44:48
really interesting Big Pharma
News New this morning, the
44:51
largest pharmacy chain in the
United States is accused of
44:54
filling unlawful prescriptions
for opioids. The Department of
44:58
Justice has filed a lawsuit
again.
45:00
CVS for violating both the
Controlled Substances Act and
45:03
the False Claims Act. The filing
alleges that over the past
45:07
decade, the pharmacy knowingly
filed or filled prescriptions
45:10
that were not valid or
legitimate. It's also accused of
45:14
filling dangerous quantities of
opioids or prescriptions written
45:17
by those known to be engaged in
so called pill mills. CVS has
45:22
denied those claims. Don't talk
about that.
45:27
Go back to the diseases. There's
one that I don't think you
45:31
caught in your in your listing.
Did I miss one? Did I miss a
45:34
disease? Yeah, the thing that
this may have gotten by this is
45:37
pretty new. This is a plague, of
walking pneumonia. Just in time
45:43
for the holidays, a rise in
cases of a contagious lung
45:47
infection across the country is
causing alarm, especially for
45:50
parents of young children. Ali
Rogin talks with an infectious
45:54
disease specialist about what's
behind the spike. The colder
45:57
months usually mean more time
indoors and higher rates of
46:01
respiratory illnesses like the
flu and COVID, but now the CDC
46:05
is tracking an uptick in cases
of so called walking pneumonia.
46:09
The respiratory illness usually
sickens school aged children and
46:12
teens, but this year, toddlers
are being hit the hardest.
46:16
Doctor Donald Dunford is the
infectious disease specialist at
46:19
Cleveland Clinic. Doctor
Dunford, thank you so much for
46:21
being here. What is walking
pneumonia and how does it differ
46:24
from other types of I get it
when we talk about walking
46:27
pneumonia versus a more classic
case of pneumonia, essentially
46:31
that it's typically causing a
more mild course of illness. If
46:36
you think about a typical case
of pneumonia, you're going to
46:38
see abrupt on set of symptoms,
whereas with walking pneumonia,
46:41
which is typically caused by a
bacteria called mycoplasma,
46:44
you're going to see kind of a
gradual onset over a few days
46:48
leading to the illness. So it's
gonna be a few days where you
46:50
start to feel poorly, you start
to get a cough, you start to get
46:55
a fever, and really over about
three to five days, you get a
46:57
fever, headache, muscle aches,
and then start to get a pretty
47:01
bad cough with him. Well, this
is interesting. One of the one
47:04
of our pastors, kids at the
church, had walking pneumonia,
47:09
and really was like, he wasn't
feeling good for a couple days,
47:12
and he just wasn't getting
better. They went to the doctor.
47:15
The doctor said, Oh, you have
walking pneumonia. Got some
47:18
antibiotics, and he was back on
his feet. You know? It wasn't a
47:21
huge deal. Yeah, I said walk in
the morning. You got you can
47:24
walk. That's what that's called
walking pneumonia. You're
47:26
wandering around that boogie
woogie blues is the other half
47:29
of that, which you don't get
that often. Boogie Woogie blues.
47:33
Have you ever heard the song
walk in pneumonia and the boogie
47:35
woogie blues? No, no. This is
probably it is foreign to you.
47:41
Yeah, because, yeah, the walking
pneumonia. So let's go. I got
47:44
these two board clips on it.
Let's go. What do we know at
47:47
this point about why toddlers
and other young children are
47:50
being affected so much this year
as compared to previous years?
47:55
When you think about mycoplasma,
typically, we see that about
47:58
every three to five years
there's a cyclical increase in
48:02
cases. So normally, no matter
what happens, every three to
48:06
five years, you see a rise. We
really didn't see that rise that
48:09
we expected during the COVID
pandemic. So I think right now,
48:13
because we have probably a
higher number of susceptible
48:17
people, you tend to see that
there's a lot of higher cases of
48:21
severe illness, which is why
we're seeing it a lot. Other
48:24
population room there with him
is some crying baby, toddler.
48:27
Gotta get with toddler. Pops,
not pops from Todd. Toddlers
48:33
shouldn't walking them. So these
are so I guess if you're a
48:36
toddler, then you're walking
around. So they technically it's
48:39
possible higher cases of severe
illness, which is why we're
48:42
seeing it a lot in the toddler
population, along with the
48:45
population.
48:48
Toddler population, this is
clearly a new demographic, the
48:53
toddler population. I love it.
So soon it'll be the toddler
48:58
community
49:01
and the toddler population,
along with the classical school
49:04
age population, which is usually
the population is most severely
49:08
affected. How contagious is
this? It is pretty contagious.
49:11
Wow, wow. Listen to that insert
49:14
here in the script. You got to
ask about contagiousness
49:17
relation, which is usually the
population severely affected.
49:21
How contagious is this? It is
pretty contagious. So, yeah, the
49:26
best way we look at this, as far
as the contagiousness, is when
49:30
you look at how it affects
families, and if it enters a
49:33
family, you actually expect that
about 80% of the other kids in
49:38
the family are going to get
sick, about 40% of the adults
49:41
are gonna get sick, and
probably, you know, all of us,
49:45
classically, will get this
probably three times our
49:48
lifetime, one time during our
childhood, one time when we're
49:52
adults, whether our 20s, 30s,
40s, and then probably one time
49:56
when we're elderly. So of
course, I have not heard John's
49:59
clips as.
50:00
We never do that. And so I'm
hoping that in the final clip
50:03
we're at least someone will ask
the question, how concerned
50:07
shall we be, and can we get a
shot for it?
50:11
It turns out that the shot, no,
that's I'm stunned by this
50:15
myself, because they have
antibiotics, yeah, but, but, but
50:18
I'm kind of disappointed in the
previous clips that you were
50:21
playing because they were
hinting around about mRNA shots
50:26
for Noro,
50:28
but they never came to any
conclusion about it. But I think
50:31
they're going to try to pull
that stunt that there's one for
50:34
you, given that we're talking
about a post COVID Spike. Here
50:39
are we seeing similar increases
in other respiratory illnesses
50:42
as well, or is it mainly
confined to this one? Yes,
50:45
definitely. The other thing
we've seen this year that has
50:48
had a rather high spike in cases
has been whooping cough, which
50:54
is caused by bacteria called
border Bordetella pertussis. And
50:57
it's actually something we, most
of us, or all of us get
51:00
vaccinated for while we get
vaccinated for tetanus and
51:03
diphtheria. Typically, that
similarly, will have an increase
51:07
in the number of cases about
every four to five years. But
51:10
we've really seen a really high
increase in number of cases,
51:14
probably about three or four
times what we would otherwise
51:17
expect, probably because of
that, having the lack of that
51:21
increase in the number of cases,
and I guess, the challenge to
51:25
the population during the COVID
years. And What should parents
51:29
be looking for to spot walking
pneumonia or something more
51:33
similar to the common cold?
Well, I think where you're going
51:35
to see in your kids, you know,
typically the common cold,
51:39
you're really not going to have
a fear with it. A kid's gonna
51:41
have a runny nose, they're gonna
have a cough, but they're gonna
51:44
seem otherwise, well, your kid
with mycoplasma, they're more
51:48
likely to be complaining of
feeling achy, and they're gonna
51:51
seem a little more rundown, and
typically, it's gonna be
51:55
associated with a fever, and
when that fever sort of persists
51:58
a little bit longer than you
would otherwise expect with a
52:00
virus, that's when you might
start to worry about mycoplasma.
52:03
I think really, whenever you see
a child that's starting to act a
52:06
little bit punky, starting to
act a little bit run down, has a
52:09
fever, it's time to call your
pediatrician to check and see if
52:12
they should get tested and if
they would need antibiotics. At
52:15
that point, this, I didn't like
how he kept saying micro plasma.
52:20
This sounds like a setup for
something.
52:26
I don't even know what that is,
because it's been used as a
52:30
generic term for unknown
bacteria. Yeah, for years, micro
52:35
plasma or bacteria that can
infect different parts of your
52:39
body, your lung, skin or urinary
tract, depends on which type of
52:43
micro plasma bacteria is causing
your infection. Yeah, this is
52:47
from Web. MD, yeah. Since it's a
generic it's almost a generic
52:53
term for, we don't know what the
hell it is. Yeah, that's what it
52:56
sounds like,
52:59
by the way.
53:01
Not to belabor the
pharmaceutical industry. But,
53:04
you know, I made a couple
ozempic jokes here, and they
53:07
were like, Huh? Like, what? And
so it's not the marketing is not
53:12
really kicked in. But in the
Netherlands, you know how
53:17
they're marketing ozempic
53:20
They I, I'm going to tell you so
the Dutch princesses, the
53:26
daughters of of the king and
queen who I met at the remember,
53:30
I met him at the castle? Yes,
they're, they're little chubby,
53:34
you know, just, they're just
chubby. They're healthy, chubby
53:36
girls. They are on ozempic,
53:39
and everyone knows about it.
They're talking about, oh yeah,
53:42
no, they're taking it ozempic.
That's the way to do it. That's
53:45
actually the way to do it. It's
a good way to do it. I think
53:49
just convince everybody that's
the way to go. Yeah.
53:53
All right, I know you. I know
you have a presentation on the
53:58
on the Christmas driver, but
before we get to that Christmas
54:02
driver.
54:03
It was wonderful to follow this
phony baloney shut down
54:07
nonsense, which, of course, we
know is always phony baloney.
54:12
It's It's been this way since
the beginning of the show one
54:16
time Trump actually did shut
down the government. But it's
54:19
always Oh, just in time. And I
loved this new trick, which was
54:25
really interesting. Okay, so we
strip everything out of the
54:28
bill, and then Trump puts in a
negotiating tactic. Oh, but we
54:33
want to remove the debt ceiling.
So of course, whether it was
54:37
purposeful or whether they were
being authentic and genuine. Of
54:41
course, there's Republicans like
chip Roy and Massey thinking, oh
54:45
no, we can't do that. We can't
allow you to print anything you
54:48
want. Oh, okay, we'll just take
it out. So all of a sudden,
54:53
Trump is running the show, but
all of a sudden he isn't running
54:56
the show. Come on. It was so
obvious what they were doing.
55:00
Mean, let's just get see. We'll
put in a couple things for the
55:04
100 million, for the victims of
the hurricanes. We'll put in
55:08
some things here, there, and
then for the farmers, and then
55:12
we'll take out Trump's. Oh, but
Trump is good. He's commanding
55:16
everybody to do this above us.
Okay? He just wanted this sign
55:19
when all the nonsense out. Just
continue until March so we can
55:23
figure it out again. But the
media had a very specific goal
55:29
they want so badly for President
elect Trump to get mad at Elon,
55:37
yeah, this has been go yes, and
you're over there, and even by
55:41
just a short period of time
you're gone, yeah, it's gotten
55:46
worse. Here's everybody's
they're going, I would just give
55:49
my background. I don't have any
clips. Oh, but they're good.
55:54
They have gone on and on and on
about, oh, this is a bromance.
55:58
They're gonna break up. It's
going to be barely bad when it
56:01
happens. They got everything but
the dead pool. You know, they
56:05
haven't done that. You've come
up with any betting format
56:09
saying, When is they going to
break up the tool? And it's
56:11
going to be nasty. Well, I'll
play first. I'll play the
56:13
German, Deutsche Villa news
report, where they start to hint
56:18
at No, this is all Elon. It's
all about. You know, Elon is
56:20
running the show, not President
Trump. Elon in the United
56:23
States, lawmakers have approved
a new spending bill to avoid a
56:28
government shutdown. The Senate
dropped normal procedure to fast
56:32
track a vote minutes after the
midnight deadline had passed,
56:36
both Republican and Democrat
lawmakers supported the new
56:39
plan. It includes billions of
dollars for disaster aid farmers
56:44
and funding for the US
government until mid March of
56:47
next year. But it did not
include a condition that
56:51
President Elect Donald Trump had
demanded, which is a change to
56:55
the debt limit to allow the
government to take on new debt.
56:59
The White House says President
Joe Biden will plan into law. So
57:03
just how difficult was it for
Democrats and Republicans to
57:08
finally find a compromise and
pass the budget? This was an
57:14
unnecessary Herculean task to
get people this is an American
57:19
they bring an American guy on to
do this all to actually keep our
57:23
government functioning here in
the United States, Speaker
57:27
Johnson, it was only on Tuesday
had first proposed this
57:31
continuing resolution bill that
had significant other pieces,
57:35
including reducing prescription
drug prices, restricting
57:38
investments in China due to the
essentially detente or cold war
57:45
that is happening, at least
economically with China at this
57:49
point. But it was Elon Musk who
jumped in, the shadow President
57:55
himself, and said
57:58
made false statements about what
was in the bill, and very likely
58:02
had issues with the restrictions
on the China investment, as his
58:07
companies are heavily invested
in China. Oh, so that, yeah,
58:12
this is the twist they've been
putting this on local, locally
58:15
to PBS and l it's Musk is
because is more is cozying up to
58:21
China, and he can't have any of
that anti China stuff in there.
58:25
So that's the reason Musk was
getting involved. Was a China
58:28
here's the here's the mini cut.
There are new concerns about
58:31
Elon Musk's growing influence
over Donald Trump, and perhaps I
58:35
should say President Elon Musk
will be exerting points over the
58:39
House Republican Conference. But
what is different here is Elon
58:42
Musk having an influence on kind
of the day to day operations and
58:46
policy from the White House to
Congress. He's a billionaire
58:49
bully. Elon Musk has a lot of
influence with Trump right now.
58:52
It's not Donald Trump asking for
this. It's very clearly
58:54
President Elon Musk asking for
this. President Elon Musk, oh
58:59
yeah, they want him to get mad
at musk. So bad, so bad. They
59:05
want it so bad. Here's, well,
the real back story here is that
59:09
Musk has threatened because he's
got so they know he's got more
59:13
money than Soros. That's a
primary, and he's threatened to,
59:16
first of all, I threatened the
primary. All the Republicans had
59:19
voted for the bill, the original
bill, the 1500 page bill, and
59:24
then he posted recently that
he's, he's thinking about
59:28
primary Democrats with more
moderate Democrats who were
59:33
asshole Democrats. And so he's
so this is what the real threat
59:37
is. Musk is all his money that,
oh yeah, that he can finance. He
59:42
can literally do what he says
and not even put a dent in his
59:46
in his net worth. Here is ABC,
who really laid it on thick,
59:50
because, and this is before they
had the deal, of course, and
59:55
this was their main talking
point for a while. Oh, but
59:58
they're taking out cancer.
1:00:00
Search for kids.
1:00:02
These heartless, heartless,
heartless bastards, heartless
1:00:06
bastards. Listen to the report.
They did. Government shutdown,
1:00:09
though, is not the only
consequence of a failed funding
1:00:12
bill. When musk and Trump killed
the budget deal, cancer research
1:00:16
for kids became collateral
damage. Damaged families left
1:00:19
the Goodmans understand all too
well. When Nancy Goodman lost
1:00:23
her eight year old son, Jacob,
to an aggressive form of brain
1:00:26
cancer, she decided to spend the
rest of her life fighting for
1:00:29
the research and treatments that
could have saved him. She
1:00:33
thought she had secured that
funding, and then the tweets
1:00:36
started. Okay, so that was just
normal. MSNBC. Alex Wagner, oh,
1:00:43
man, for anyone who might not
know, this is Gabriella Miller,
1:00:49
I was diagnosed when I was nine,
and
1:00:54
now, once you get cancer,
1:00:58
please pay attention to the
music. Kinda gotta be a grown
1:01:02
up.
1:01:09
Don't really have a childhood.
Less and
1:01:17
less kids are gonna have their
childhood if awareness
1:01:21
people don't raise a awareness
and raise funds a little
1:01:33
produces st Jude's commercials,
1:01:36
same kid, hold on.
1:01:38
A little over a decade ago,
discover doctors discovered an
1:01:41
inoperable tumor the size of a
walnut in Gabriella is brain
1:01:46
less than a year later, she
passed away, but in the time
1:01:49
that she had, Gabriella lobbied
the federal government to fund
1:01:52
pediatric cancer research so
that other kids like her in the
1:01:55
future could have a fighting
chance. And the year after,
1:01:59
Gabriella is death, that funding
got passed, and President Obama
1:02:03
signed it into law, but this
year, this week, renewing that
1:02:06
funding was one of the things
Republicans thought was too
1:02:09
Porky, too much of a special
interest, so it got cut. These
1:02:15
horrible people. Trump caused
cut from the continuing
1:02:18
resolution. It didn't get cut
from anything else. Trump,
1:02:22
causes cancer. That is your kid
in kids,
1:02:26
it's this is so evil, and this
is a dead kid. Oh, let's bring
1:02:31
her up. Throw some get the
music. You got the music, I got
1:02:35
the music. It's gonna be great.
That is, you're right,
1:02:38
despicable, evil and despicable.
And that's MSNBC. Then A Funny
1:02:44
Thing Happened on the view as it
pertains to President elect
1:02:49
Trump and Elon Musk and JD,
President musk and President
1:02:54
mosque. So much is going on in
the world is quite wonderful. As
1:02:58
DC barrels towards yet another
government shutdown. A
1:03:02
bipartisan bill to keep the
lights on was scrapped, and it
1:03:06
has a lot to a lot of folks
asking, Who is in charge?
1:03:12
Because I've been saying it for
a while. I've been Yes, you have
1:03:16
girlfriend. I think Elon must
believes he's president. I do I
1:03:22
call I've called him vice
president. I called him
1:03:24
president because I don't know
what JD is doing. I hardly ever.
1:03:28
I don't, I don't remember last
time we even talked about JD,
1:03:32
he's planning the presidency
when he get rid of Trump. So you
1:03:35
think it's musk, it must Vance
possible.
1:03:41
Hey, you know who stay away from
the stairways. You
1:03:47
know people put the leg out to
trip people down the stairs.
1:03:51
Watch out. Now, would you view
that as a problem, problematic
1:03:56
statement that would be made
there
1:03:59
about harmless presidenting The
president or Yeah, do you think
1:04:03
that's a statement that is a
problem,
1:04:07
not for her? Well, the ABC
lawyers thought so. They came
1:04:12
back from the break.
1:04:14
Okay, I need to clean something
up because my cat
1:04:20
lays in wait for me on my stairs
all the time. And that's what I
1:04:24
was refer I was thinking of
that. I wasn't trying to
1:04:28
indicate that they were actually
standing there with their legs
1:04:30
out, hoping he would trip. No,
it was like anything. No, it
1:04:34
was, it was light hearted, and
it's the holidays. Come on.
1:04:39
My goodness, you did not mean
that anybody should hurt the
1:04:43
president. No,
1:04:45
okay, you know the thing about
this show, there is no way not
1:04:50
to step and poo.
1:04:52
There is no way to do it. There
is no way not to do it. ABC and
1:04:57
Disney, they are afraid after.
1:05:00
That stuff. Yeah, they're making
all kinds of changes. They
1:05:02
dropped a bunch of episodes of
some kids show trans kids.
1:05:07
They're, they're completely they
looked at their numbers, yeah,
1:05:10
oh yeah, that you're probably
right. They're saying, you know,
1:05:13
and they're, they have to be
quick on the draw, because they
1:05:15
ABC door, Disney is huge.
Corporation got all kinds of
1:05:19
little
1:05:21
got me, if you look at their
corporate structure, they just,
1:05:23
like hundreds of companies,
yeah,
1:05:27
anyway, yeah, they have to make
these corrections. This shows
1:05:30
these people have got to go.
They have to somehow. I've
1:05:33
always said I gave Whoopi six
months, I think about a month
1:05:37
ago, so she's got five months
left.
1:05:40
Yeah? Well, who knows, who
knows, but she's gone. And then
1:05:46
they have to get rid of Sonny
hostins, and then they then Joy,
1:05:50
I guess, makes the most money
with her. Does Joy make the most
1:05:55
she does? Yeah, I think she's
doing, you know, she's been
1:05:58
there the longest to
1:06:00
bring back Barbara. She's
1:06:03
still alive. Is she still alive?
Barbara Walton, do I look her
1:06:07
up? I don't know if she is
1:06:09
all right. So this Christmas
attack has been big news here,
1:06:12
and I presume you have a
presentation just looking at
1:06:16
some of your clips. Yes, I have
a lot of clips, and I think it's
1:06:19
been misrepresented a lot of
different ways, for sure,
1:06:22
considering what people are
saying about it here, yes, what
1:06:26
are they saying about it there?
Just so I can, well, they're
1:06:29
saying that the message, so the
messaging, they're trying to
1:06:32
make it sound like this guy was
basically a right wing nut job.
1:06:37
And if you look at the protests
in Germany, if you look at what
1:06:40
people are saying, no, no. They
all just like, deport. They're
1:06:44
like, get rid of everybody. They
are sick of all of it. And do
1:06:48
you know that they're all most
of these Christmas markets
1:06:51
around Europe, they have
barriers now because of this
1:06:54
very issue. And this tiny little
town, this tiny little market,
1:06:58
didn't have them. No, they had
no this actually explained in
1:07:02
the report. Oh, okay, all right,
go. They did have them. Oh, but
1:07:07
they weren't. Oh, no,
1:07:10
they they had them, but they had
a
1:07:14
ambulance lane that you could
get through if you knew what you
1:07:19
were doing. So. But they had
them there too. But these
1:07:23
markets, if people should look
them up, Christmas market
1:07:25
Germany, and look at the photos,
these things are elaborate and
1:07:29
they're huge. And there was
dealing with one of these German
1:07:32
markets before this happened,
there were, like a, there was a
1:07:35
whole Muslim protest against
them, the Christmas market in
1:07:39
Germany. Yeah, it's like because
they don't like it, yeah.
1:07:45
Well, that's very suspicious
too. There's no reason for that.
1:07:48
But let's start with, I got just
a PBS. This is the Christmas
1:07:51
market PBS. This is the general
57 second. This is all they had
1:07:55
for the thing. And then I'm
going to switch to the BBC,
1:07:57
where they actually try to
analyze it. Got it wrong, I
1:08:00
think. But let's go with
Christmas market. PBS, Germans
1:08:04
are mourning the victims of an
apparent attack at a Christmas
1:08:07
market. Church bells told in
Magdeburg, Germany at the exact
1:08:11
time a man intentionally drove
his car into a crowd of people
1:08:14
last night, killing five and
injuring more than 200 a nine
1:08:18
year old child is among the
dead. The suspect surrendered to
1:08:21
police at the scene. Officials
say he's from Saudi Arabia and
1:08:24
has lived in Germany for nearly
20 years. A review of his social
1:08:28
media accounts show he shared
anti Islamic statements and
1:08:32
expressed support for Germany's
far right anti immigrant
1:08:35
political party. It is now
important that we clarify the
1:08:39
situation and that this is done
with the utmost precision and
1:08:43
accuracy. Nothing must remain
uninvestigated. And of course,
1:08:47
we must understand the
perpetrator, his actions, his
1:08:49
motives, so that we can respond
with the necessary criminal and
1:08:52
other consequences. And we will
Investigators say the attack may
1:08:57
have been motivated by anger
over Germany's treatment of
1:09:00
Saudi refugees.
1:09:04
Okay, so that summarized it as
probably the way they all
1:09:07
summarized it, and it is
horseshit.
1:09:11
But the BBC even went even
further and did a huge elaborate
1:09:15
thing, and they this was a over
the weekend, and it was
1:09:17
presented by our show friend, of
the show, Helena Humphrey. Is
1:09:23
she a friend of the show?
1:09:25
Well, she follows us. Oh, but
she obviously she's not a friend
1:09:29
of the show. She wrote this
scathing complaint about us. For
1:09:32
me, does she still follow you?
Yeah, I follow on both LinkedIn
1:09:38
and Twitter by her, huh? Is she
taking our material?
1:09:42
No, she takes none of our
material, believe me, all right,
1:09:45
she, in fact, the one thing I
had a one kind of a semi
1:09:49
interaction with her. She was on
LinkedIn, and I ran into her
1:09:53
profile. I said, Did she
following me? And she had, she,
1:09:58
her, yeah, on.
1:10:00
Her on her LinkedIn profile, and
I know she had, she her on her
1:10:03
Twitter thing too. So I sent her
a direct message linking to my
1:10:08
essay that's on sub stack about
he her and how you can't get
1:10:12
work if you do that shit,
because people see us some sort
1:10:15
of a nut ball. She never
responded. Said anything to me,
1:10:19
but I noticed that after a month
or so she took it off, so that's
1:10:22
Oh, okay, so you have influence.
Good job. Yeah, good job. You
1:10:26
help. You helping out the
mainstreamers. Good job. So she
1:10:30
does this elaborate report and
1:10:36
BBC, and I think it completely
misses the point, but they do
1:10:39
the best job of missing the
point by going deep into it.
1:10:42
This is x market, one BBC, at
least five people were killed
1:10:47
when a man drove through a crowd
at high speed. Along with those
1:10:51
five deaths, city officials say
that 200 people have been
1:10:54
injured, many of them seriously.
We can now name the suspect in
1:10:58
the attack as Talib al Abdul
Muslim. He is a 50 year old
1:11:02
doctor from Saudi Arabia.
Officials say that he appears to
1:11:06
have been motivated by
resentment the treatment of
1:11:09
refugees in Germany, rather than
religion. The BBC has been told
1:11:13
that the Saudi authorities
passed on warnings about him.
1:11:16
Well, German Chancellor Olaf
Scholz has visited the scene.
1:11:19
He's called what happened in
Magdeburg? Quote, a terrible
1:11:22
act. There are questions about
security after it emerged the
1:11:25
suspect drove through an
entrance reserved for ambulances
1:11:29
and official vehicles. Our
correspondent, Anna Foster is in
1:11:33
Magdeburg. As night fell,
hundreds of people attended a
1:11:36
vigil at the city's Cathedral, a
packed and somber affair. Some
1:11:40
of the first responders were
among the mourners. Chancellor
1:11:43
Olaf Scholz sat next to
Germany's President 24 hours
1:11:47
ago, this market was packed with
people, but the laughter and
1:11:50
celebration was cut
devastatingly short
1:11:54
when a car sped through the
crowds, killing five people and
1:11:58
injuring 200 more. The cast sped
past us, and the police ran
1:12:02
after it. Other emergency
services arrived, evacuated
1:12:06
people and diverted traffic.
People were still panicking and
1:12:10
screaming, yeah, yeah, it was
bad.
1:12:16
All right,
1:12:18
that was actually better. That
little segment was better than
1:12:21
the PBS report. Let's go to two
we now know it used the rescue
1:12:25
entrance to get into the square,
a gap deliberately left for
1:12:28
ambulances to have access.
Police say the deadly rampage
1:12:32
lasted three minutes. Armed
Police quickly arrested a man, a
1:12:36
doctor, originally from Saudi
Arabia, but living here for
1:12:40
nearly 20 years, his motive is
still under question. As things
1:12:44
stand at the moment, it looks as
if the background to the crime
1:12:47
could have been disgruntled with
the way Saudi Arabian refugees
1:12:50
are treated in Germany. But what
exactly is behind it is still
1:12:55
under investigation.
1:12:59
Emotions are running high here.
Alongside the sadness, there's
1:13:03
an undercurrent of anger against
politicians who some feel didn't
1:13:07
make this place safe enough.
Earlier today, Chancellor Olaf
1:13:11
Scholz came to lay a white rose
and promise an investigation. It
1:13:18
is a dreadful tragedy that so
many people were killed and
1:13:21
injured, we send our sympathy to
those who are injured, and I
1:13:25
express the solidarity of the
entire country. Well, in just
1:13:29
the last few hours, around 100
far right protesters gathered in
1:13:33
the streets of Magdeburg. The
March called for the RE
1:13:36
migration of immigrants living
in Germany. The Christmas market
1:13:40
attack will likely add to the
debate over security and
1:13:42
immigration before national
elections in February, with
1:13:45
opinion polls showing the far
right Alternative for Germany,
1:13:49
party is likely to perform
strongly, and while a motive for
1:13:53
the attack is still unclear, our
SECURITY CORRESPONDENT Frank
1:13:56
Gardner has been looking into
the suspect, Talib al Abdul
1:13:59
Masan and alleged warnings from
the Saudi government about him.
1:14:02
Yeah, yeah. I heard they were
they had been warning about this
1:14:06
guy. Well, there's also another
story where this a friend of
1:14:10
this guy, an Arab from another
Saudi woman, who turned him into
1:14:17
the cops, and they paid no
attention to her commentary, she
1:14:21
said that he's going to do this
and so what? So here's what
1:14:26
right at this point is where you
start saying yourself, Wait a
1:14:29
minute, yeah, this guy's
supposed This is a bull crap.
1:14:33
Yeah, this guy supposedly is a
1:14:37
right winger who who's gave up
on Islam, and he
1:14:45
is, and he's irked at the German
government for not treating
1:14:48
other Saudis who come over, who
become atheists, basically, and
1:14:53
not treating them right. And so
he's going to plow into a
1:14:57
Christmas market full of
Christians again.
1:15:00
Nothing to do with anything.
Something doesn't add up. But
1:15:03
let's continue with this, with
this
1:15:06
narrative, with the next clip,
they say that they passed four
1:15:10
so called notes, verbal. These
are official diplomatic
1:15:14
notifications that they sent
from Saudi Arabia to Germany. I
1:15:18
don't have the dates for them,
unfortunately, but they sent
1:15:20
three of them to German
intelligence agencies and one of
1:15:24
them to the German Foreign
Ministry, warning they say about
1:15:28
Taliban's extreme views that he
held. Now there are two sides to
1:15:34
this. There is a view taken by
at least one respected counter
1:15:40
terrorism expert that I know of
who's saying that this is
1:15:43
something of a bit of a
disinformation campaign. He's
1:15:46
even saying that this is the
Saudis trying to blacken his
1:15:50
name. Well, it's pretty black
right now, obviously, but trying
1:15:54
to basically say that here was
somebody who was dangerous back
1:15:58
then. Why? Because he was
allegedly trying to help a
1:16:03
number of people who had left
Saudi Arabia and were either
1:16:06
dissidents political distance or
people who were trying to turn
1:16:10
their back on their Islamic
faith. Saudi Arabia being very
1:16:14
much a monolithic one faith
country, Islam, and this man,
1:16:20
Tala Bucha, had left his
religion, his of his birthplace.
1:16:25
So in Islam, you're not supposed
to leave your religion. And he
1:16:30
has turned into somebody that
the German interior minister,
1:16:34
federal interior minister, Mr.
Fauci, has referred to as
1:16:38
islamophobe. And certainly some
of the texts that some of the
1:16:43
tweets that he posted and that
are being reported in German
1:16:46
media, are exactly that
Islamophobic. So there are two
1:16:50
sides to this, but it does seem
that the Saudi authorities were
1:16:54
concerned about this man's
extreme views. So are they
1:16:57
trying to make him sound like
he's an AFD supporter? Is that?
1:17:00
Is that? What's going on here?
Yeah, this is the idea, it seems
1:17:05
to me, is to make it seem as
though he is an AF. Is with AFP,
1:17:11
I guess, right. AFD, alternative
for Deutschland. Oh, yeah, okay.
1:17:15
FD, the the right wingers of
Germany, who are trying to, as
1:17:19
we know, are Nazis. Yeah,
they're Nazis. They're no good.
1:17:23
They also very popular. It is
very practical, very popular.
1:17:26
But
1:17:28
yeah, they they are actually,
1:17:31
so they're trying to make that
out. And I got two more of these
1:17:34
little clips, and I'll get to
the one that's important, if you
1:17:36
don't mind listening to these
other ones. But this is we can
1:17:39
go to this one. Go this one's
actually been renamed kind of
1:17:42
differently. This was exomes.
Market for joining me live now
1:17:46
is Rebecca schoenenbach, a
counter extremism consultant.
1:17:50
Rebecca, thank you very much for
being with us. I just want to
1:17:53
begin by asking you, what do you
make of the profile of the
1:17:56
suspect? Is there anything that
stands out to you? Thanks for
1:17:59
having me. What stands out most
is that he seems to have such a
1:18:04
suffer from a prosecution
complex. So a lot of
1:18:10
persecution. Prosecution complex
person means persecution because
1:18:15
her English is so so mediocre
that she keeps saying
1:18:18
prosecution, okay,
1:18:20
complex. So a lot of his tweets,
on
1:18:25
a lot of his direct messages,
show that he felt prosecuted by
1:18:30
the German state and even by the
police, and he accused other
1:18:35
secular Muslims, or ex Muslims,
of also prosecuting him. And it
1:18:41
is true that he defamed some of
them, and they had to assume him
1:18:46
in court, and they won. So it
seems to be a mixture of him
1:18:52
accusing others, than feeling
that they go after him, feeling
1:18:57
suppressed by the German state.
That is the most significant
1:19:01
thing that stands out, apart
from his hatred of Islam and his
1:19:07
Fandom of Elon Musk and the far
right AFD in Germany, yeah.
1:19:13
Okay, so when they say ex
Muslims in this context, is he
1:19:17
talking about Muslims who are no
longer Muslims, or Muslims who
1:19:20
tweet on x. A little confusing.
Well, it doesn't really make any
1:19:25
difference when we start
listening to this bull crap and
1:19:28
this follower of Elon Musk, they
throw that in. I mean, I could
1:19:31
have put some sound effects in
here to emphasize what she's
1:19:35
going on about. But this is the
this is the last of these clips
1:19:39
and and BBC goes through a
really elaborate process here to
1:19:43
try to sell us on this idea that
this guy is some sort of a right
1:19:46
wing nut, because they bring
out, first they bring in that
1:19:49
other guy, then they bring out
this guy, and then they make to
1:19:52
try to come to some conclusion
he hates Islam and all the rest
1:19:56
of it. And so play this and then
the kicker is coming.
1:20:00
So tell us more about that. With
regards to Elon Musk, for
1:20:04
example, I just wonder more
generally, when you're looking
1:20:07
at kind of cases of extremism,
and of course, we don't know the
1:20:11
motive here, but to what extent
are we seeing, for example,
1:20:16
conspiracy theories or
misinformation, and the
1:20:19
amplification of that feeding
into those kind of beliefs?
1:20:23
Well, he was an advocate for re
migration. So he was a staunch
1:20:28
critic, not only of Islam, but
of any sort of migration to
1:20:32
Germany, but particularly the
migration of Muslims, of Muslim
1:20:36
countries. And he favored people
who were known as critics of
1:20:42
Islam, not only of Islamism, but
of Islam, such as Tommy Robinson
1:20:47
in Great Britain. He retreated
some of Elon Musk takes, he
1:20:53
didn't particularly retreat all
the right wing extremism
1:20:58
theories. So it does not seem
that his whole world view was
1:21:03
right wing extremism. He also
tweeted a lot about sexual
1:21:07
abuse. He tweeted a lot about
women's rights, some facts that
1:21:13
are really to be criticized for
anybody advocating for women's
1:21:18
rights, but he mixed it with
1:21:21
theories with conspiracy. But
most outstanding were his own
1:21:26
perception of the German state,
of the treatment of refugees, of
1:21:31
the German police, and he even
accused his own lawyers to have
1:21:35
betrayed him. No man, I love the
heavy handedness on musk. That's
1:21:38
pretty good. I like that. Yeah,
this is like a worldwide effort.
1:21:42
These things are all seem to be
worldwide. Well, they're all
1:21:46
They're afraid of him, because
they see what he was. His power
1:21:49
is King musk. He's the president
there's so then I run into this,
1:21:54
and we've had, you know, even a
dude named Mohammed, I think,
1:21:57
got this completely wrong,
1:22:00
this woman, who is fairly famous
on the social she's an Iranian
1:22:06
German named moral, and she does
these kinds of takes on things.
1:22:10
And this is the this clip is the
Eximus attacker,
1:22:15
takiyah, which is a technique
used by Shia Muslims, the lie,
1:22:21
and she outlines what this guy
is really all about, as far as
1:22:24
she's concerned. And this is the
only thing that rings true. I
1:22:28
want to address the
misinformation spreading about
1:22:32
Talib al Abdul MAs and the
terrorists behind the Christmas
1:22:35
market attack in Magdeburg,
Germany, contrary to some
1:22:39
claims, he was neither an
atheist nor an ex Muslim. Talib
1:22:46
Fauci portrayed himself as an
atheist, ex Muslim and victim of
1:22:50
the Saudi regime, while
simultaneously accusing the
1:22:54
German government of prosecuting
female Saudi asylum seekers and
1:23:00
promoting an agenda to islamize
Europe. His identity as a
1:23:04
radical Shia Muslim is evident
even from his name, which
1:23:09
explains his hostility towards
Saudi Arabia and his wicked
1:23:12
jihadi agenda. Leaked tweets and
chat screenshots now circulating
1:23:18
on IX reveal his connection to
radical Islamist networks,
1:23:24
including a counseling to ISIS,
an ex Muslim organizations and
1:23:29
activists and IX have also
reported receiving direct
1:23:32
threats from Talib. Ask
yourself, why wouldn't atheist
1:23:37
threaten ex Muslims? It doesn't
make sense.
1:23:41
This is a classic example of
taqiyyah, an Islamic practice
1:23:46
that allows Muslims to lie and
deceive to advance Islamic goals
1:23:52
or agendas. Talib s, false
narrative designed to sow
1:23:56
division chaos and terror,
reveals the psychopathy and
1:24:00
manipulative nature of a
jihadist, his actions seek to
1:24:04
destabilize and confuse society,
to paralyze any meaningful
1:24:10
response to radical threats by
portraying himself as a victim
1:24:15
of Sunni Saudi Arabia, who he,
from his radical Shia
1:24:19
perspective, considers fake
Muslims. He furthers both his
1:24:23
jihadist goals and his sectarian
battle. Individuals like Talib
1:24:29
have no loyalty to earthly life.
Their set of masochistic lives
1:24:36
are entirely devoted to
preparing for Judgment Day,
1:24:39
where the Infidel will finally
suffer eternal torture and hell
1:24:44
fire while they will be rewarded
in paradise for their earthly
1:24:48
sacrifices, complete with the
infamous promise of 72 virgins.
1:24:53
Without a doubt, Talib is not an
atheist. For terrorists like
1:24:57
him, life is a temporary means
to serve his.
1:25:00
Violent, apocalyptic vision of
divine will.
1:25:05
Well, I'll say that makes sense.
It not only makes sense, and
1:25:09
people should look up to Kia,
which is spelled T, A, Q, i, y,
1:25:14
y, A, which is a practice that
is was discussed quite a bit
1:25:19
after 911 and it has more to do
with Shia Muslims than it does
1:25:24
the Sunnis. And it is, it is a
practice of lying for certain
1:25:29
purpose. And this guy, she goes
on in her particular after this
1:25:34
is released, she somebody put
together a thread of her
1:25:39
discoveries of on both the
different chat rooms and
1:25:43
elsewhere. Of all his
commentaries, they're all
1:25:46
radical. They're all extremist
Shiite stuff and was and this,
1:25:52
this narrative of him being a
right winger, he's a left
1:25:55
winger. Completely being a right
winger is just bogus. This whole
1:26:00
story is a complete cover up of
what's really going on here.
1:26:03
They don't want to talk about
Wow. And that was she that was
1:26:07
still in her BBC interview, that
bit about takia.
1:26:11
No, no. This is separate. This
completely separate. Okay,
1:26:14
standalone, wow. This woman
stand alone that wasn't on BBC.
1:26:18
No, the BBC is going with the
right winger, Musk, yeah,
1:26:22
Trump's bad. I mean, Helena
Humphries is a Trump hater, so
1:26:27
she'd been fitting right in with
this no problem, and the whole
1:26:32
BBC narrative was just to make
the part of the cover up. Wow,
1:26:37
wow.
1:26:39
Now it's also possible they're
just completely stupid, and they
1:26:42
just immediately think, oh, X,
Twitter, Trump, but musk, don't
1:26:47
forget musk. Well, I actually
have two, two quick clips, also
1:26:51
from the BBC. The best
guesstimate that you can make,
1:26:54
looking at what he has been
communicating over the last
1:26:56
couple of years is that he
really belongs into this
1:27:00
conspiratorial narrative
category of extremists, which
1:27:04
have been growing quite
significantly since the
1:27:06
Coronavirus epidemic. And social
media companies are really not
1:27:10
doing anything against those
people. They are not quite
1:27:14
effective in preventing Islamist
terrorism, content which they
1:27:17
know best, but conspiratorial
narratives such as this
1:27:21
especially individualized,
conspiratorial narratives,
1:27:24
because he also felt personally
persecuted by the German police,
1:27:27
is something that these
companies simply don't look at,
1:27:30
and the German security forces
neither have the legal mandate
1:27:34
nor the resources to monitor the
entire internet all the time.
1:27:39
Oh, so because the narrative
here is because Musk fired the
1:27:43
Trust and Safety Team. This is
then no one could figure it out.
1:27:47
Yeah, but it was no one was
paying attention. They should
1:27:49
have taken his tweets down.
Let's just blame X, yeah. But I
1:27:52
mean, even if you had monitored
the internet and seen his
1:27:54
conspiracy theories, you
wouldn't think they would lead
1:27:56
to a violent act like this,
would you? Well, not
1:27:59
necessarily, but he did say he
is going to do an attack. He did
1:28:04
say he's going to take revenge.
So there were clear
1:28:07
formulations, but, but the
problem is, and this is going to
1:28:11
be always a difficult thing of
assessment for the security
1:28:14
forces to go over.
Unfortunately, because the big
1:28:17
social media companies, in this
case, x, where all of this
1:28:20
material is. Have not gotten
better, but they reduced their
1:28:24
content monitoring capabilities
and investments. You have so
1:28:28
much hatred and so many
fantasies of violence on the
1:28:31
internet that it's really hard
to distinguish what is just a
1:28:36
person that is disturbed and
just lives disturbed ideas out
1:28:40
on the internet, and which one
of those is a person that then
1:28:44
gets into a car and plows
through a Christmas market? I
1:28:47
take your point that the worst
and worrying signs online.
1:28:50
Basically, he was anti system.
There's that the sort of
1:28:53
broadcast, blah, blah, blah. So
I really like your your analysis
1:28:57
of this, and they're just
running the other direction.
1:28:59
They're like, hey, you know
musk, he doesn't, he doesn't
1:29:02
check stuff, and if, if he had,
hadn't fired everybody, then
1:29:06
this wouldn't have happened.
1:29:09
Yes, his fault. Somehow, it's
President Musk's fault. Yeah,
1:29:14
that's really bad. That's really
bad. It's really bad that
1:29:18
mainstream media is not doing
its job, but they're not
1:29:22
supposed to do their job.
They're supposed to sell drugs.
1:29:24
Yeah, yes,
1:29:27
yes. So, you know, they get you
in the right mood. You go take
1:29:30
some, you know, get nervous and
all worked up. I mean, some of
1:29:33
the I have some tick tock clips
we can play in the second half
1:29:36
of the show, but we were people
all work. Well, hold, on, hold
1:29:39
on hold on, I'm gonna set you up
for your Tiktok clips before we
1:29:43
take a break and we have a long
donation segment, because we
1:29:46
have two shows, and people
supported both shows, that was
1:29:50
very nice.
1:29:53
Have a couple of Tiktok clips
here. Where are my Tiktok clips?
1:29:56
Because, you know, we're coming
down to the wire. Wait, wait,
1:29:59
what?
1:30:00
No, I don't have tick tock clips
from tick tock. I have clips
1:30:04
about tick tock, which will,
which will set you up for tick
1:30:07
tock.
1:30:09
You see, you see what I'm doing,
huh? Yeah, okay, hold on. I'm
1:30:14
waiting for you to finally cave.
1:30:18
Good luck.
1:30:20
Good luck. Where's my tick tock
clips?
1:30:26
Um, it's got to be, I'm sorry,
here I am trying to set you up
1:30:30
big. Let me see tick tock.
1:30:33
Oh, yeah, okay. This is under,
uh, what is this under?
1:30:38
Oh, my, you know it's the
problem is, it's so small on
1:30:43
this screen that I just can't
see it anymore. Your eyes are
1:30:47
going, well, there's that big
tech. No, I had it under
1:30:54
this is, this is maddening. I
can't actually see it. I know I
1:30:59
stuck them in here. What is? Oh,
here we here we go. Here we go.
1:31:02
Okay, I'm sorry. ABC, Good
Morning America. The battle over
1:31:06
Tiktok is headed to Supreme
Court. The justices agreed to
1:31:09
hear the social media apps
challenge to a law that could
1:31:11
ban it in the US, starting next
month. It's working outrage
1:31:14
online here to break down the
case. Good morning kind of a
1:31:18
complicated Yeah, case. Congress
has ordered by dance. The
1:31:21
Chinese company to sell tick
tock by dance is challenging,
1:31:24
right? The law. So who's got the
better argument? Who's likely to
1:31:27
prevail? So the government
probably has the stronger
1:31:29
argument going into this. The
argument from a by dance or tick
1:31:33
tock is, this is a first
amendment issue, right? They're
1:31:35
stopping us from engaging in
free speech. The government
1:31:38
saying, This isn't about speech.
This is about regulating a
1:31:41
foreign government who is
gathering data on Americans. And
1:31:46
remember, that is a practical
matter. Foreign individuals
1:31:50
aren't allowed to own broadcast
licenses, for example, in this
1:31:52
country already, and so their
position is this really isn't
1:31:55
significantly different than
that. It just depends on how you
1:31:58
look at the case. Remember,
there's also the Tiktok users
1:32:01
also filed a separate lawsuit.
Also part of this is being
1:32:04
heard. Let's just reiterate the
no agenda stance on this,
1:32:07
because it's not like Tiktok is
gathering any more data than
1:32:11
Google or meta or X for that
matter. Don't forget, probably
1:32:16
less, probably less. And this is
in our mind, looking at the
1:32:20
bill, who co sponsored the bill,
who got the most money from, in
1:32:24
fact, Google, more than anybody,
were Senators.
1:32:29
How's it sound as a congressman
1:32:32
who got, got a lot of donations
for their, you know, for their
1:32:35
campaigns, from Google. And this
has always been about
1:32:37
competition, these guys are
eating Silicon Valley's lunch,
1:32:41
they've got a whole different
algo, which is really what
1:32:44
people want to get rid of,
because this algo works like
1:32:46
people are loving the tick tock.
So this is nothing about that.
1:32:51
And I should go ahead and I
should mention, based on that
1:32:54
clip you just played,
broadcasters are licensed by the
1:32:59
government. Yes,
1:33:02
social. Media Networks are not
licensed, and they're not
1:33:05
subject to the same rules and
regulations. And so to make that
1:33:08
analogy, which yes, lawyer did,
is bull crap. Well, I'm
1:33:13
thinking, so there is a the
Supreme Court has because I got
1:33:16
an analysis from Rob the
constitutional lawyer, the
1:33:19
Supreme Court has said, okay,
look, you can come in on the
1:33:21
10th of January. There's
everyone has to write their
1:33:24
13,000 word essay. So something
is going to go down. We're not
1:33:28
quite sure what, and if the
Supreme Court will look at all
1:33:31
this and have an opinion before
the January 19 deadline, I'm
1:33:36
thinking Trump is using this as
a chit
1:33:40
because he doesn't like how
Silicon Valley has op certainly
1:33:44
Google and things that how they
portray him. There's a lot of
1:33:48
personal issues he has. He just
just doesn't like them, per se.
1:33:52
So he may be using this as a as
a chit or a chip against them.
1:33:57
Get two more short clips. The
court is moving fast, though.
1:33:59
Okay, so the court will hear the
case. What? Nine days before the
1:34:02
deadline to sell, they've chosen
not to pause the law. So what do
1:34:07
you read into that? And what
about the Tiktok users? What the
1:34:10
ban does go into effect? It
seems pretty clear the courts
1:34:13
moving quickly. They've
expedited this. I'd expect
1:34:15
something from them in the
relatively near future, Tiktok
1:34:18
users accounts are not going to
get zapped, right? They're not
1:34:21
going to just go away. Tiktok
still going to be there. The
1:34:24
question is going to be, who can
see it, who can use it? How can
1:34:29
they use it? Those are the sorts
of questions that's different.
1:34:34
What? Yeah, who can see it? What
does that even mean? I don't
1:34:38
know.
1:34:39
I don't know. I can use it and
you can't. I don't know. I mean,
1:34:44
that's what it sounds like.
Let's listen to the last clip.
1:34:47
And we know, by the way, wait,
wait, wait, that's a very
1:34:50
whatever, because of what we
just said right there. That
1:34:54
shows you the analysis they're
doing stinks. And we know that
1:34:57
Donald, Donald Trump met with
the tick tock. CE.
1:35:00
This Week at Mar a Lago. Oh, no,
he said he had the warm spot.
1:35:03
Now for for Tiktok, is there
anything he could do with this
1:35:07
out of his hands? So January 19,
this goes into effect. He takes
1:35:10
office january 20, but he still
could have a big impact. Number
1:35:14
one, he could tell his Attorney
General, don't enforce this at
1:35:17
all. So that could be some level
of reassurance. He could also
1:35:20
seek to try and get Congress to
repeal it. You could also try
1:35:23
and delay it. So you have some
options here if he decides to be
1:35:26
on Tiktok. So he wanted the band
at one point, he did correct in
1:35:29
his first administration, by
executive order, tried to ban it
1:35:32
seems he's changed his position
a bit. What do you think? What
1:35:35
do you think at this point?
What's what's going to happen?
1:35:38
I think it's a free speech
issue, period.
1:35:43
And it's just a, it's a, it's
like, and it's also anti
1:35:46
competitive. Well, what this
thing, which is, what your point
1:35:49
is, which is the anti
competitive nature of it,
1:35:51
because it it kicks ass. And so
this is what the real issue is,
1:35:56
because, oh God, these guys are
eating our lunch, and God knows
1:36:00
what else can happen. I mean,
we're already going to have
1:36:02
trouble in our search engines
because of the damned AI stuff.
1:36:07
I mean, this is these guys are
freaked, and so they're looking
1:36:10
for help. Let government help
us. Help us stay in business
1:36:14
because we're incompetent.
Boneheads, talk, talk, tick
1:36:17
tock.
1:36:19
All right, everybody. Time for
John's tick tock clips of the
1:36:22
day, his tick tock Clip of the
Day.
1:36:27
I got, I got four of them,
actually five. To be honest, I
1:36:30
start with that. I'm going to
start with this one, which is
1:36:33
one that's, gee, it's already
past due because of this guy.
1:36:36
There's some jerk that's, this
is under, not under talk but
1:36:39
talker. This is the dude
1:36:43
clip. And this is a guy who
comes on and he's, he's a Trump
1:36:46
hater, oh God, and he's just
really on, hold on this is a two
1:36:49
minute tick tock clip. It's
worth it,
1:36:54
all right. It's the only long
clip I have today. Oh man. All
1:36:58
right, set it up. This guy is
going to tell us that, you know,
1:37:02
that Trump's not going to get in
office, because, you know, this
1:37:05
is, if it wasn't Jamie Raskin
was going to stop him, but, but
1:37:08
there's going to be something
that's going to happen on the
1:37:10
20th and that's going to prevent
him. Wait a minute. Oh, I guess
1:37:15
I recorded this like day before
the 20th. And now, what is the
1:37:18
date today? I don't know, 20
seconds. Yes, 22nd and it hadn't
1:37:22
happened. But, okay, there's a
there's a backup plan. Here's
1:37:25
what we're gonna do. And this
guy is such a glib he's kind of
1:37:30
like a working class looking
guy. He's a but he's so glib and
1:37:33
convinced that the Trump, Trump
got into some nefarious means,
1:37:37
and everybody hates him, and
we're gonna fix it. Guys, don't
1:37:41
forget, it's We the People.
Okay, we have executive order
1:37:45
coming out, 13848, right? It's
going to be implemented spin
1:37:48
out. Donald Trump's helped
create it, and it's going to
1:37:51
come back to bite him in the
ass, because it it, what it does
1:37:54
is it says how we have to
proceed when we realize that
1:37:57
there has been outside
interference in our elections,
1:38:00
there definitely has been.
1:38:03
They're going to reveal that on
the 20th of December, because 45
1:38:08
days from November 6 brings us
to December 20, which is six
1:38:13
days from today. So next this
coming Friday. So have a great
1:38:17
weekend. Do your laundry, hang
your stuff out. If you can
1:38:21
change the sheets to your bed,
go grocery shopping, get
1:38:24
everything set up, go to church
tomorrow, or don't pray at home.
1:38:27
Hold hands. Love the ones you're
with. Be good to yourselves, and
1:38:31
let's get our country back right
next week, the Friday, I have a
1:38:35
feeling this executive order,
13848, will be
1:38:39
implemented, and if not a month
from then, December 20 to
1:38:45
January. 20, the day of the
inauguration, we the people, are
1:38:50
going to have to show up in
Washington and have this guy
1:38:53
step down. The 3% rule states
that if you have 3% of a world
1:38:58
of a group of people's
population, 3% of a particular
1:39:01
population. If they gather in
mass, they can change
1:39:04
everything. So we have 330
million Americans. 10% of that
1:39:10
is 33 million. And what's a
third of that 11 million? 11
1:39:16
million of us have to show up on
Washington, DC on january 20,
1:39:19
and have this guy step down.
He'll see 11 million people talk
1:39:23
about a crowd. He'll have a
coronary. It'll have to step
1:39:26
down. We got to do it, and we
can't depend on the people out
1:39:29
west. God bless. But for those
of us who are in New Jersey, New
1:39:33
York, Massachusetts, Long
Island, Connecticut, everybody,
1:39:37
we got to converge on
Washington, black, white, trans,
1:39:41
lgbq, two drag queens,
peacefully, cohesively, we're
1:39:46
going to meet and have this guy
step down on january 20. That's
1:39:50
our failsafe. I would pay good
money to see 11 million trans
1:39:53
and drag queens show up in
Washington. I could sell
1:39:56
tickets. I would too. Actually
Executive Order 13.
1:40:00
848, imposing certain sanctions
in the event of a foreign
1:40:03
interference in a United States
election. All right, so I guess
1:40:07
that didn't happen. Ah, bummer.
1:40:11
So this delusional character is
you just have to wonder out. But
1:40:17
I mean, because he's dead, he's
very sincere.
1:40:21
But what you know this is, this
is what goes on on that side.
1:40:24
It's the same thing as here's a
here's the talk, talk 2025 gal.
1:40:30
How does it feel to those people
who voted for Donald Trump to
1:40:34
know that he is now accepting
the fact that he is, in fact,
1:40:37
the endorser of project 2025 I'm
not sure what other evidence you
1:40:42
needed. I mean, we all told you,
he told you also His name is
1:40:47
listed in the document hundreds
of times. And not only that,
1:40:53
there were video footage of him
endorsing the Heritage
1:40:57
Foundation and their little
project, 2025 manuscript, which
1:41:00
is now your new Bible. Get used
to it. I mean, he literally said
1:41:03
to you, hey, if you vote for me
this time, you'll never have to
1:41:08
do that again. Here we are just
a reminder. Hitler was a product
1:41:12
of a democracy. Democracies
really only work friends if the
1:41:18
people in charge are not
lunatics and they follow the
1:41:21
rules, and Donald Trump is, in
fact, a fucking lunatic. And
1:41:25
thank you so much. I'm so
excited for the next four years
1:41:29
of my life.
1:41:31
You know, these people are the
last of the Mohicans. They're
1:41:34
dying off. I mean, they're just,
they're trying, desperately
1:41:38
trying, to get some clicks and
some likes, not less of the
1:41:43
most. I don't think this is
gonna this. That's a good,
1:41:45
interesting analogy. Well,
here's Rosie O'Donnell. Well,
1:41:50
there's that. What can we say
about Elon Musk? How did this
1:41:54
happen? How is this allowed to
happen? How is the richest man
1:41:58
in the world allowed to buy the
presidency,
1:42:03
and where are the scholars and
where are the lawyers, and where
1:42:08
are the poets and the political
commentators who are going to
1:42:13
not normalize this insanity.
1:42:16
It is absolutely insane, insane,
1:42:21
and those Tesla cars are so
ugly.
1:42:25
She throws that in gratuitously
at the end. She should move to
1:42:29
the coswalts with the with Ellen
co live there. It's, I hear. The
1:42:34
weather's great. The weather's
great.
1:42:38
All right, so
1:42:40
to get off the Trump Musk thing,
and now we got to generalize tik
1:42:44
tokers that have dumb things to
say. And we'll start with the
1:42:47
Gen Z idiot. To know, how does
it feel to those people who
1:42:51
voted for Donald Trump to know
that he is now accepting the
1:42:54
fact that he is, in fact, the
endorser of project 2025 I'm not
1:43:00
sure what other evidence you
needed. I mean, we all told you,
1:43:03
he told you also His name is
listed in the document hundreds
1:43:08
of times. Okay, and skip this
one. This is actually this. It's
1:43:12
basically the same clip. Yeah,
yeah, okay, that's not the one I
1:43:16
wanted. Here's the last one.
This is the kicker. Everybody
1:43:19
get ready, John. This is a
woman. This is a woman, guy,
1:43:22
Gal, he, they, she, it, I don't
know. Got blue lips, blue
1:43:27
lipstick, fat and true. And try
gender. Try gender. Okay, here
1:43:35
we go. I am trying gender, which
means, like a triangle, I have
1:43:39
three genders, male, female and
non binary. And the difference
1:43:43
between tri gender and gender
fluid is that I feel all three
1:43:46
of these genders at the same
time. All the time. It doesn't
1:43:49
ever shift or change, or I feel
one gender more strongly than
1:43:53
the other, like gender fluid
tends to be also, I should
1:43:57
recognize and accept that a lot
of people don't see non binary
1:44:02
as a third gender. They see it
as something completely separate
1:44:05
from the binary of male and
female. But for me, it's like a
1:44:11
third gender, or I guess you
could call it a third identity.
1:44:15
Oh, John. Oh, John. You know,
please, I'd ask everybody to not
1:44:19
encourage John, telling him
these clips are great on email,
1:44:23
because it only gets more of
this.
1:44:28
Yes, I'm sorry you get you
dropped out. Oh, I'm asking
1:44:30
people not to interview.
1:44:33
Can you hear me? What you get?
You notice it? People are
1:44:36
encouraging me. You've noticed
this. Yeah, they need to stop
1:44:39
this. They need to stop this,
because this is hurting the
1:44:41
show. At this point,
1:44:46
it's hurting the show. It's
hurting the show, man, it's
1:44:50
killing this show. Tina was
actually she, uh, well, here's a
1:44:55
here's a clip that's swimming,
but got this, wait, But wait,
1:44:58
there's more you.
1:45:01
Well, this is not really a tick
tock clip, but it's a good clip
1:45:05
that's along the same dumb
lines. Okay. This is Daniel
1:45:09
Baldwin on the Diddy tapes. Look
at Diddy, for instance. Let's
1:45:13
take a look at him. Let's take a
look at he has videos. He has
1:45:18
videos of the parties. Now, what
I've heard, which I don't know
1:45:22
how much of it is in mainstream
media, I don't really follow the
1:45:25
story that much, sure, but what
I've heard from friends that are
1:45:27
attorneys, friends of mine that
have represented me before,
1:45:30
agents and so on, is there's a
bidding war going on right now.
1:45:33
They're driving that price up,
because if you want your client
1:45:36
and your famous actor to not be
involved, or famous singer to
1:45:40
not come out. Here's the price
and that they're just selling to
1:45:45
the individuals that are in
those this is what I heard.
1:45:48
They're selling those videos. So
if you're Tommy X, and Tommy X
1:45:52
is a big, big movie star, and he
was at some of the Diddy
1:45:55
parties. He was one of those
bedrooms with three other men,
1:45:58
and He's happily married to a
woman and blah, Tommy doesn't
1:46:00
want that video to come out. He
does not want it to come out.
1:46:03
Same thing for Jeffrey Epstein.
Now, the The interesting thing
1:46:06
about the Epstein, and the
theory about Epstein, is we know
1:46:09
he filmed people, for sure. On
that island, he has a lot of
1:46:11
movies, a lot of films, of
people that are very, very
1:46:14
powerful, political figures and
entertainers, business people.
1:46:19
So
1:46:21
do you really believe that
Jeffrey Epstein killed himself?
1:46:24
And, of course,
1:46:26
okay, so there's other theories
that he's in Lebanon. He never
1:46:28
died at all, having the weight
of owning those films right now
1:46:33
over people. So will Donald
Trump release those films? Oh, I
1:46:36
believe Donald Trump. Trump
probably has a lot of friends
1:46:39
that are in those videos too. I
don't know if he behooves him to
1:46:41
release them, either. But what
happens if
1:46:47
iconic African Americans or
iconic
1:46:51
Japanese Americans or iconic
Anglo Americans, who I mean,
1:46:55
former presidents, what happens
if they're in those videos? What
1:47:00
does that do to the herding of
the sheep? I mean, because I
1:47:04
believe it, that's exactly what
we're experiencing. Oh, man, is
1:47:07
he? Does he have a podcast now?
Is that? Is that the level we've
1:47:10
gone to with Hollywood? Daniel
Bowen has a podcast out of
1:47:14
control. I blame you.
1:47:18
And what Tommy are we talking
about? Tommy Lee Jones, Tommy
1:47:22
Cruz, Tommy Lee, come on. Come
on. Man, hey. With that, I'd
1:47:25
like to thank you for your
courage. Say in the morning to
1:47:27
you, the man who put the sea in
the Christmas driver, say hello
1:47:30
to my friend on the other end,
the one, the only Mr. John C
1:47:33
Debora,
1:47:37
well, in the morning, you're Mr.
MC curry. In the morning he all
1:47:39
ships of sea, blues on the
ground, feet in the air, subs in
1:47:42
the water, and all the Dames and
nights out there in the morning
1:47:44
to the
1:47:46
trolls,
1:47:50
we have 2068
1:47:53
2000 Wow, eight.
1:47:56
It's a Sunday, which means we're
above average. Am I right?
1:48:00
Hello, yeah. Normally it's 400
low.
1:48:05
Oh, I thought Sunday was always
like every show. This
1:48:10
is like a Costello. There it is.
Well, it's Christmas week.
1:48:14
People are on vacation. I mean,
a lot of people are traveling,
1:48:18
and there's a lot of inclement
weather, yes, and you know, we
1:48:23
take our time out of the week to
do the show. I mean, I slept
1:48:26
everything. We're over here, by
the way, that low number is the
1:48:30
reason, if you watch Fox or any
of these networks, every one of
1:48:34
the Met number the a list hosts,
all the top guys, they're all on
1:48:38
vacation. The B listers and the
C listers are in there doing the
1:48:42
shows because doubts that,
because of that number is down
1:48:46
20% or so, 25% maybe about 20
more closer,
1:48:53
and that's enough to click
though I'm going on vacation
1:48:57
button. But we don't do that.
No, we don't, because these,
1:49:02
these 2000 people, even though
it's not the 2400 we normally
1:49:06
get, those 2000 people are
valuable to us. They're C
1:49:09
listers. We don't take them for
granted. They're the C listers.
1:49:15
No, we don't take you for
they're not getting C list
1:49:17
material from us. A list, a list
premium content, that's right,
1:49:22
no nonsense, no nonsense. That's
right. And they are, of course,
1:49:27
listening@trollroom.io
1:49:29
or on any of those modern
podcasts. I've noticed, by the
1:49:31
way, do not go to podcast
app.com
1:49:36
it's podcast apps.com
1:49:39
there's some apps plural,
plural. There's some wonky
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podcast app at podcast app.com
which is a piece of crap. No,
1:49:48
your podcast apps, apps, yes,
that's where you can find that.
1:49:52
Podcast app.com is no good. No
podcast apps.com
1:49:57
where there's over 70 apps and
server.
1:50:00
Says you can use for the modern
podcast, which, of course,
1:50:02
that's, that's a scandalous.
It's very scandalous. Yeah, I
1:50:05
noticed that people, man, this
thing sucks. Like, what are you
1:50:08
talking about? Scandalous? I
guess somebody has cloned my
1:50:11
Twitter site and put it up on
blue sky, yeah, yeah, with the
1:50:15
same art and everything, and
real Dvorak might my handle on
1:50:19
blue sky is John C Dvorak, yeah,
someone, it's a security risk,
1:50:24
really, because they, what they
did is they scammed comic strip
1:50:28
blogger out of 333 bucks. It's
horrible. He finally donated,
1:50:34
and he got scammed. There's no
good. It's no good. Blue Sky is
1:50:38
no good. This is security risk,
honestly,
1:50:43
anyway. So that's where you can
get those modern podcast apps.
1:50:46
And yes, we always bring you
premium content. And again,
1:50:50
thank you to strokey bill for
bringing premium content in the
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last episode. It was very well
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send the value back to the show.
We give you the value is there.
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We just throw it at your feet,
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run with it. And if you feel
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send something back to us again.
Time, talent, treasure. And we
1:51:13
want to thank Nick the rat who
brought us the artwork for
1:51:16
episode 1722,
1:51:18
now, this was old artwork,
right? This was, this is very
1:51:21
old artwork, or, Yes, from, it's
from about, I think, a 1919,
1:51:26
not that old. No, it's from
2021, I think, yeah. And it was
1:51:30
the fear like, three years old.
Yes, it was the fear mask. And
1:51:35
John went trolling around a no
agenda Art Generator, calm, to
1:51:38
get a perfect piece of art. And
he gave me three options. I
1:51:40
thought this was the best, hands
down. It was. It was so apropos
1:51:43
for the episode. It was great.
And we look forward to choosing
1:51:48
a piece of art today, once
again, from our no agenda
1:51:51
artists at no agenda Art
generator.com
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and we appreciate the work that
these artists do. It truly is
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magnificent. Now we always like
to thank everyone who donates
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good stuff. It's very good
everyone who donates over $50
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and we have 5050, up to the
Executive Associate Executive
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producers. We do name and amount
only. Typically, this is a note
1:52:13
that we feel is worth reading.
We always read the notes from
1:52:16
our executive and Associate
Executive producers. By the way,
1:52:19
I do want to thank Johnny. Oh,
and he said, I could read this,
1:52:23
says, decided on doing a
recurring donation. We encourage
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this very much at no agenda
donations.com I was paying to be
1:52:30
verified on x and thought, Why?
Why I have 169
1:52:35
followers, and 150 are probably
bots. No one gives two shits
1:52:39
what I have to say. So why give
Elon my 12 bucks a month? I'd
1:52:43
rather give it to the best
podcast in the universe. Thank
1:52:47
you, Johnny. Oh, that's the
spirit. That's exactly what we
1:52:49
need. 12 bucks a month. Yeah,
it's a lot. Appreciate that. So
1:52:54
$200 and above, you get an
Associate Executive producer
1:52:57
credit, which is a real credit.
You can use it in Hollywood
1:53:00
circles until they all are
exposed on the Diddy tapes.
1:53:06
Literally, yeah,
1:53:09
and we'll read your note. And of
course, you can use that credit
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on imdb.com, all kinds of funky
places. You can also just put it
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on a business card and present
it at the freak off. Hey, I'm an
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Associate Executive Producer.
Let me in and $300 above you
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become an executive producer,
and we read your note as well.
1:53:27
John, you're gonna have to read
the first one because I'm on the
1:53:30
laptop, and this note is so long
it literally will not fit on my
1:53:34
screen. And I'm sure you're
going to truncate this one. It's
1:53:38
a nice donation because it's an
instant night from Singh
1:53:44
detlefson, who lives in
Henderson, Nevada, 1000 Yeah,
1:53:48
hang on one second so I can blow
it up. Yeah. It was impossible
1:53:51
for me to get into it.
1:53:56
It was very, very
1:53:58
this is from once you have the
name of the person, yeah, yeah,
1:54:01
it's a singy detlefson in
Henderson, Nevada, $1,000
1:54:09
okay, I just doesn't have to
double click on this, because
1:54:12
this actually blows up my
spreadsheet, but I can at least
1:54:14
get started. I started listening
1:54:17
he or she rice, I'm not sure.
1:54:20
Uh, do you guys back in 2016
when a friend Teddy punched me
1:54:24
in the mouth, please call him
out as a douche bag.
1:54:28
Douche bag.
1:54:31
I can still vividly recall
switching between listening to
1:54:33
no agenda and NPR. This is
interesting on my commute to
1:54:38
work at Amazon in Seattle, your
immediate deconstruction opened
1:54:42
my eyes to the lies
1:54:46
Russia gate he has in
parentheses of the national
1:54:49
treasure, and I've never gone
back. Well, good for you. In
1:54:52
2020 I left corporate life at
Amazon after six years and went
1:54:55
full time with my wife in our
dietary supplement.
1:55:00
Business, wholesome story.
Although I love my time in
1:55:04
Amazon, I still remember my
final drive leaving Amazon and
1:55:07
screaming freedom in the style
of Mel Gibson from the movie
1:55:11
Braveheart.
1:55:15
We didn't end up like him. No
owning our own business. That
1:55:18
has been the greatest blessing.
I own my mind and my time.
1:55:22
Wholesome story is a market
leader in the in those you know
1:55:27
I I know how to pronounce this.
Innocent, is it? It's in i n, o
1:55:32
s, I T, o, l, category,
inositol, I think, which mainly
1:55:36
helps women with polycystic
ovarian syndrome. PCOS, the
1:55:41
world's leading cause of
infertility, and it goes on
1:55:44
about that Trump's election and
the appointment of RFK Jr can
1:55:49
hopefully remove the tape over
our mouths and allow more women
1:55:55
to find out natural options to
support their bodies. Canada has
1:55:59
no such limit, so long as you
have clinical trials, and I hope
1:56:03
the US adopts a similar
strategy. In addition to the
1:56:06
woes of supplements, I'm
actively advocating for change
1:56:09
in how the US deals with foreign
e commerce sellers.
1:56:13
To put it bluntly, we're
exporting our cash to China
1:56:16
faster than you can imagine.
Yes, I think we've discussed
1:56:19
that. I recently wrote an
article titled e commerce wars
1:56:22
and how the US is losing. You
can find it somewhere on medium,
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uh, medium.com at shingle or
Shing Shing high slash, e
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commerce wars and, okay, well,
that, well, he has a pitch
1:56:37
further down to purchase
supplements from their website
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with this instant night
donation, please night me, Sir
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Shanghai is s h i and Xinghai,
protector of the Moonies, a
1:56:48
story for another time, and adds
some coffee ice cream to the
1:56:52
round table, which is quite
tasty, by the way. Yes, karma
1:56:56
for the US and the world
further. If anyone wants to
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purchase supplements from our
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Use the code. ITM 15 and say 15%
thank you all for you do. And
1:57:10
Merry Christmas.
1:57:14
Yes. And he did in the
beginning, ask for a deducing.
1:57:19
You've been deduced. Thank you.
Shanghai coffee ice cream has
1:57:23
been ordered. We go on to, oh,
no, agenda shop. Hey, no. Agenda
1:57:27
shop. It's been a while. Yeah,
we got to get them more
1:57:30
business. Yeah, although they do
come in with a cool $851.74
1:57:37
and this is basically a donation
from it's a cut. It's
1:57:41
undetermined. We have no formal
agreement with them. They always
1:57:44
make sure the artists whose
artwork is used get paid when
1:57:47
people buy from no agenda shop
except no
1:57:51
no imitate imitators. There's
like no agenda gear and other
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things. No agenda shop.com.
That's the only one that we
1:57:59
sanction. No agenda. Shop.com,
they're in Gitmo, nation,
1:58:02
Georgia, and they say sorry for
the delay in our most recent
1:58:05
contribution. The new human
resource in my life has pushed
1:58:08
me overboard, but I am slowly
regaining control of the ship.
1:58:13
Luckily, you are still here to
cure me of the mainstream media
1:58:16
malaise. No jingles, no karma.
And Merry Christmas. Merry
1:58:19
Christmas to you. And
congratulations on the new human
1:58:22
resource. That's nice, sir
Tyler, in Anchorage Alaska,
1:58:26
34375,
1:58:27
which I believe is 333. 33 plus
the added seas, gentlemen,
1:58:33
please keep up the great work.
You too are proof that one. If I
1:58:38
believe in you and you believe
in me, then together, we can
1:58:41
prove that one plus one is
three. Hey, now,
1:58:44
Merry Christmas. Get mo nation
from Tyler systems LLC, your AI
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workflow and automation
sweatshop in Alaska.
1:58:53
Another donation coming for
Sunday. Every time Sam Altman
1:58:57
opens his mouth, more of his
clients open up the business for
1:59:00
competing bidding if you're
skeptical of AI. Adam, yep, and
1:59:05
insist it do something
productive. Ha and useful and
1:59:10
useful. Shule, me and no, shoot.
Shoot
1:59:18
i OI Shuman, shoot me a note
sometime. Taylor. At, Taylor,
1:59:23
Tyler. Tyler, I'm sorry, Tyler.
Tyler. T Y, l, e r at, Tyler,
1:59:27
systems.com,
1:59:29
so all you AI guys can do this
north to the future, sir. Tyler,
1:59:33
in Alaska, I may ask him to do
some, some, some AI work for
1:59:36
you. You got some I'm thinking
of it. I got ideas. We need no
1:59:39
agenda agents. We need agentic
AI for no agenda, that would be
1:59:44
good. David McKee, McCowan,
McKeon. McKeon, I think m, c, k,
1:59:49
e, O, W, and Salt Lake City,
Utah. 343 Wait, wait, oh, I'm
1:59:54
sorry. Okay, yeah.
1:59:57
343
1:59:59
Yep.
2:00:00
Yep, yep. Do we have a keep dog
and do we have a pay attention
2:00:03
to me? Well, you're, you're
Tourette's thing on me. 343, 75
2:00:07
is probably 333.
2:00:09
33 plus the fees dude, AKA a
joint
2:00:14
newish to no agenda, first time
donating. Well, let's
2:00:20
you've been deduced
2:00:23
unlimited value in the show, but
not my Fiat tickets. Yee haw,
2:00:27
400 more years. Okay? David,
thank you very much,
2:00:33
sir. Tyler, second donation, he
said he donated Sunday and
2:00:36
Monday. 343, 75, and the
previous note applies. Okay, Sir
2:00:41
Don. Thank you very much, sir
Tyler. Appreciate that. Sir Don
2:00:45
is next with a 333, dot 33 plus
fees from Chandler Arizona in
2:00:49
the morning. Merry Christmas to
you and yours. No jingles, no
2:00:51
karma. But I do believe this
donation makes me a baron, if it
2:00:55
pleases the peerage committee, I
would like to henceforth be
2:00:58
known as Sir Don, Baron of
Chandler. Love is lit. And I
2:01:02
think we're good. We're good on
that
2:01:05
grant Shuler in Cincinnati,
Ohio, 343, 75 which is again,
2:01:10
333, 33 and no jingles, no he's
got no note. So he gets a double
2:01:15
up karma.
2:01:17
You've got
2:01:20
karma, sir Rick is in Arlington,
Washington, 333 dot 48 and he
2:01:27
sent us a note which I will
read. Dear John Adam, having
2:01:30
reached the contribution level
for Duke, I'm submitting my
2:01:33
application for title change
from Earl to Duke. Approved. Let
2:01:37
me henceforth be known as Sir
Rick, Duke of Washington, minus
2:01:40
Seattle and the rest of those
crazies in King County. Having
2:01:44
reached this status, I realized
that I've married way below my
2:01:46
station to a mere dame,
therefore future donations will
2:01:50
be shifted from Sir Rick to Dame
Becky in the interest of marital
2:01:53
bliss. John is always
complaining about my detailed
2:01:56
accounting, so I've managed to
fit it into one page on the
2:01:58
reverse side of dismissive all
the best. Keep up the good work.
2:02:01
No jingles, no karma, sir. Rick
PS, Dane Becky and I have only
2:02:05
ever had one fight. It started
July of 1987 and I'll let you
2:02:09
know when it's over.
2:02:12
Folder, great hair. Love you.
Mean it. No homo, wow. Thank you
2:02:14
very much, brother. Good deal.
Let's see this sounds about
2:02:18
right? Yep,
2:02:20
we're gonna have trouble
reviews. He's gonna come in as
2:02:22
Sir Rick. These are bank checks.
Usually they're 6996
2:02:26
month after month, which adds
up.
2:02:29
Alexander
2:02:33
gruton, good
2:02:35
Dardo, I think gritta,
2:02:39
Guru, Todaro. Good Todaro Gruta,
Daro Gruta, daughter. Rochester,
2:02:44
New York, 333 33 Adam, it was
nice to meet you and Tina, oh,
2:02:48
during our flight, this is your
buddy. This is the guy who
2:02:52
yelled in the bathroom eating
the dogs. Yeah. This is him.
2:02:56
Adam, it was nice to meet you
and Tina. During our flight from
2:02:59
Amsterdam to Florence, you were
both so delightful to chat with.
2:03:03
As I said, I'm fairly new to the
show. A friend got me into it
2:03:06
just over a year ago, but I
haven't missed it one since. He
2:03:09
hasn't donated yet. So I'm sure
the public, this public call out
2:03:13
will motivate him to get his own
D douching douche bag
2:03:18
and traveling. So I haven't
listened to the Thursday show
2:03:21
yet, but I can't wait to remind
to be reminded of all the BS we
2:03:27
were fed over the past almost
five years of COVID Nonsense.
2:03:31
Thank you both for your courage
and for keeping us from getting
2:03:34
spun up as we have all the
psyops thrown at us. Yes,
2:03:39
there's a lot of them.
2:03:41
So also, please thank Tina for
my wife and I, we really enjoyed
2:03:45
hanging out at baggage claim,
Merry Christmas or one Natalie,
2:03:52
bueno, bueno, as we buen on that
day. We are here in Italy. I
2:03:57
hope to see you around town.
Could I please have an airport
2:04:00
bathroom? They're eating the
dogs due to climate change.
2:04:03
Combo and a de douching, Alex
and Annie in Florence, Italy,
2:04:09
from Rochester, New York, on a
suite. They're eating the dogs
2:04:12
due to climate change.
2:04:15
You've been deduced.
2:04:19
Well, that's fun. Ah, that's,
hey, I'm working man, see, I got
2:04:23
him to donate. Yeah, that was,
that's, that's good. That's
2:04:28
good. That was good. Jason
Brookfield, Wisconsin, 333, 33
2:04:32
executive producer. Title for
you, sir. Thanks for years of
2:04:34
informative and entertaining
amygdala treatments. I enjoyed
2:04:37
reminiscing about COVID hysteria
on Thursday's podcast. I think
2:04:40
it's a great reminder of the
need for amygdala health
2:04:42
awareness. Christmas plus
children, heartstring pitch. I
2:04:47
want to invite any listeners
willing to help my daughter's
2:04:49
youth group for their service
trip this summer. We even
2:04:52
welcome those simply wanting a
tax deduction. The crew is
2:04:55
putting faith into action by
doing acts of service here in
2:04:58
the Greater Milwaukee area and.
2:05:00
Will take a trip to Alaska to
serve through thirst missions.
2:05:04
Thirst missions this summer to
impoverish families and Native
2:05:07
Alaskans our church website,
anchor falls.org, anchor
2:05:11
falls.org, has a giving link,
and if you include no agenda
2:05:15
gift or some reference to no
agenda in the note, our church
2:05:17
administrator will know how to
direct the funds to the youth
2:05:20
group. Jingle requests. Sunday
service no longer. Douche bag
2:05:24
from Brookfield, Wisconsin, my
children.
2:05:39
All right to Zach a fudge at
Frankenmuth, Michigan, three,
2:05:43
three, 3.33. I guess they're
selling some fudge. Yeah, this
2:05:46
is the no agenda fudge. Dot.
Agenda fudge.com. Yeah, in the
2:05:50
morning, we know a lot of
holiday parties happen after
2:05:52
Christmas day as well. Bring the
gift that defends no one. Go to
2:05:57
no agenda fudge.com. Use promo
code no agenda for free
2:06:00
shipping. Happy holidays,
everyone. Thank you. Commodore
2:06:04
Brennan of the glass city is up
next. 333, 33 from Perrysburg,
2:06:08
Ohio. Remember, this is for two
shows, so it's highly
2:06:11
appreciated. ITM gents. I
recently hit my mom in the
2:06:14
mouth, and now she calls me and
starts the conversation about no
2:06:17
agenda, or she calls it exposing
agendas. All right, mom, when I
2:06:22
first, when I first told her
about the show, she said, Adam
2:06:25
Curry from MTV, we had the same
hair in the 80s.
2:06:31
Regardless of the hair, this
show continues to make a great
2:06:33
impact and a great conversation
starter. All that said, Can I
2:06:37
get a fun request? Because the
website is as old as all get out
2:06:41
and the jingle has not been
played in a few episodes. Can I
2:06:44
get a dvorak.org/na
2:06:46
jingle? Also John, we can save
that site if you figure out the
2:06:49
password. Uh huh, dvorak.org/na
2:06:54
we all know the password is
gone. We all know it's not okay.
2:07:00
Get a whole neighborhood because
you want to do some work on it?
2:07:03
I can deal with Yeah, let's do a
ditch. Yeah, try murti.
2:07:09
You know it did. Yeah, this is
an Indian name. I can't
2:07:11
pronounce it. He's in hyper bad.
And India is hyper bad.
2:07:20
Hyderabad. I dare about, I dare
bet Hyderabad. Sorry, I don't
2:07:23
know where 333 33 but he does
say, no jingles, no karma. It's
2:07:28
always mutton and Mead. Amen to
that super suited peace and
2:07:32
tranquility. 333 33 he sent in a
note which I shall read. ITM
2:07:37
boys, please find and close a
December donation. I'm looking
2:07:41
forward to being back in the
States for the holidays. There's
2:07:43
no place like America, and it's
that time of the year again for
2:07:47
my keeper to celebrate one more
trip around the sun. On the 29th
2:07:50
of this month, steam blue crabs,
Coors Light and she crabs soup
2:07:55
with great friend friends and
family will be the Feast of the
2:07:58
day. She's a a
2:08:02
Baltimore on, Baltimore,
Baltimore, Baltimore on, if you
2:08:06
could play the Baltimore on
Baltimore on, I not heard of
2:08:10
this. I haven't either, could
you please play a biscuit for
2:08:14
her birthday? Why? Of course, we
can. They always give me a
2:08:17
biscuit on my birthday, also to
celebrate our visit for the
2:08:20
holiday. If you could please
play the backup to the backup to
2:08:23
the backup jingle? Yes, it will
be for I will be forever
2:08:25
grateful as a self proclaimed
Plan B guy, this jingle always
2:08:30
cracks me up.
2:08:32
Love the show. Thank you for
what you do. Four more years,
2:08:34
donation accounting attached
sincerely, sir, pursuit of peace
2:08:37
and tranquility, Earl of the
lands of the red clay and the
2:08:40
cherry trees a backup and a
backup to that backup and a
2:08:43
backup to the backup to the
backup boom.
2:08:47
Shane Larson in Anchorage,
Alaska, somehow came in with a
2:08:50
note that's all underlined, 333
2:08:54
and underline and in light,
lighter normal text. I know it's
2:08:58
great. Hi there. I just came out
of hiding and finally donated to
2:09:02
no agenda for the first time,
333,
2:09:05
baby, so he gets a deducing.
Please.
2:09:10
You've been deduced. I sent a
hyperlink with my donation,
2:09:14
which I believe this entire note
is the hyperlink. I was horror
2:09:19
humbly wondering if you would
consider the song I created on
2:09:26
suno, yeah. What's the song? Ai
site, yes. About the no agenda.
2:09:33
Dr, New Jersey. No agenda. New
Jersey drones for the end of the
2:09:36
show, and he's got a link. Uh,
either way, can you please add
2:09:41
these jingles, don't eat me. Bo
Jaiden, shut up, slaves, thank
2:09:46
you. He says, Don't eat me. Bo
Jaiden, you're scary. So scary.
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If I understood you correctly,
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Our formula is this, we go out,
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Didn't want to mention because
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I was lamenting to how man, I
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so much fun laughing about
Clarissa, Ward free, freeing a
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notorious Assad regime torturer
with her phone, with her phony
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baloney, prison cell break
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What a farce. She will always
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journalist who freed the
torturer forever. It's a black
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mark on her resume,
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who has like Geraldo in the L
zone vault the empty basically
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the same thing. Yes, CNN, by the
way,
2:20:23
this is the second hotel we've
been in, no longer at the
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airport hotel in Amsterdam and
not in this hotel in Italy,
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either. CNN and CNN
International, nothing. They're
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not on the on the system.
2:20:36
I found that very peculiar,
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bad management,
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bad Hotel Management, or bad CNN
management, no, but CNN, they
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should be, you know, they
shouldn't allow this. They
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should have, they had. They
dominating spaces, all of them,
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and all the they did, yeah, the
airports and they were all over.
2:20:56
There were Europe. You can't,
couldn't turn on TV without
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getting CNN International.
2:21:02
So here's just a little fun
thing.
2:21:06
We haven't been following it
very closely, but Justin Trudeau
2:21:09
is under some real pressure.
2:21:12
He's got people from his cabinet
resigning. It's kind of unclear
2:21:16
why.
2:21:18
I mean, do you have any any clue
as to what's going on. I got
2:21:22
nothing, no, well, I do have two
people speaking to
2:21:29
Sir Trudeau saying how much they
hate him. And apparently that's
2:21:35
just out there. You sold us out
to globalism. Okay? You are not
2:21:39
working for Canada. You are
working for your globalist
2:21:43
partners. I wonder how much
they're paying you to betray
2:21:46
Canada. What do we do with
traders in Canada? Mr. Trudeau,
2:21:50
we used to hang them, hang them
for treason, and you're doing
2:21:55
that very same thing to us now.
King Trudeau, what gives you the
2:21:59
right to continue? What gives
you the right to stay in office?
2:22:03
You failed Canada. You've ruined
our country. You're done. Walk
2:22:07
away. You don't have an ounce of
your father's integrity, at
2:22:10
least. We walked in the snow.
2:22:12
You've ruined this country.
Everyone around you is running
2:22:16
from you. They're abandoning
you. Christian Freeland, Sean
2:22:18
Fraser, they've all left you.
It's time for you to go. It's
2:22:22
time for Canada to have an
election. You're not the king.
2:22:25
You're not the king. There's a
lot of talk about him resigning.
2:22:29
Yes,
2:22:32
I wish we I don't know what I
wish a Canadian would give us a
2:22:35
briefing on why this swapped out
so quickly. I think could have
2:22:40
been, this should have been
going on during a trucker
2:22:42
strike. I don't get him. They're
just mad now, now, now they're
2:22:45
mad. Now they're mad. I
2:22:47
don't know,
2:22:49
odd, very odd,
2:22:53
Syrian news, because Syria is a
problem. Yeah, yeah.
2:22:59
That after blinking, everyone
went to Damascus. Apparently,
2:23:05
the US had a ten million bounty
on this guy's head and like, Oh
2:23:09
no, it's okay. We're dropping
that now. You're good, yeah,
2:23:11
they dropped a bounty because
you're not in charge. You're
2:23:13
good, yeah. They must have done
some sort of backdoor deal.
2:23:17
Something happened. Yes, but
let's play the edition from the
2:23:20
BBC again, Helena, Syria's new
rulers have begun appointing key
2:23:24
ministers two weeks after the
fall of Bashar Al Assad, the
2:23:28
European Union, the UK, France
and the United States have all
2:23:31
sent delegations to the Syrian
capital Damascus, with the US
2:23:35
scrapping a ten million award
for the arrest of Syria's de
2:23:39
facto leader, Ahmed al shara,
well, as the regime change
2:23:43
continues to take shape, I've
been speaking with the director
2:23:46
of the Syria conflict research
program at the London School of
2:23:48
Economics, Dr rim. Took money.
Thank you so much for being with
2:23:52
us once again here on BBC News.
Very good to see you before we
2:23:56
delve deeper into that question
of the transition now in Syria,
2:24:00
I'd just like to begin by
talking about how people in the
2:24:03
country are currently faring.
Can you give us an idea when it
2:24:07
comes to their humanitarian
needs, infrastructure and so on?
2:24:11
How are people doing the daily
lives of ordinary Syrians right
2:24:15
now, very significantly,
depending on the region. So in
2:24:19
areas, many of the areas that
were previously under regime
2:24:22
control, like Homs, Hamad,
Damascus, there is a sense of
2:24:25
relief to you know that the
Syrian regime is gone. However,
2:24:30
in the coastal areas and part of
the countryside, fear persist
2:24:34
about the future, what my told
and potential retribution. In
2:24:38
the northeast, which is under
SDF control. There is also
2:24:42
tension, you know, fears about
potential clashes with Turkey
2:24:47
backed forces. But despite of
the regional differences, the
2:24:50
one common thread that unites
most Syrians is really the daily
2:24:55
struggle to survive. If you look
just before the fall of the
2:24:58
Assad regime or.
2:25:00
Already we had about 17 million
people required humanitarian
2:25:03
aid. 90% of the Syrians were in
poverty, and around 13 millions
2:25:10
were food insecure.
2:25:13
I don't believe a word of this,
you know, and the more you and I
2:25:17
talk about it, the more people
get mad at me.
2:25:21
You have no idea what he did.
You have no idea how bad he was.
2:25:27
Well, the International is an
exercise,
2:25:33
and we have to hearken back to
the earlier days when, uh, there
2:25:37
he was being visited by all the
Hollywood celebrities, and
2:25:40
everything was getting
2:25:45
so go to I went to Flickr, yeah,
which is still there, and they
2:25:49
still have all the and looked up
Damascus, Syria. I looked up
2:25:53
different to see photos that
people tourists,
2:25:59
King of the areas, and I don't
see 90% you look around, they
2:26:04
these guys are going all over
the place. Flicker is really a
2:26:06
good resource for looking at
pictures that normal people go,
2:26:11
you know, snapshots. And there's
just these pictures. I don't see
2:26:14
any evidence of 90% they're big
markets. I don't see any
2:26:18
evidence of 90% food insecurity.
I don't see any of that stuff
2:26:23
that what this guy just said,
2:26:26
I don't understand. Maybe it's
all in homes, and we just
2:26:29
weren't getting that
information. You got pictures of
2:26:31
homes,
2:26:33
homes. There was pretty much all
over the country, pictures, and
2:26:38
you don't see anything that
implies what this guy just said.
2:26:41
It just, well, I heard this
seems like a pack of lies, and
2:26:44
the fact that this guy that was
had a ten million bounty, which
2:26:48
is not trivial, no, on his I
mean, they only had $50,000 for
2:26:52
the for the healthcare shooter,
yeah, uh, ten million on his
2:26:58
head. And now all of a sudden, I
was fine and dandy. This is,
2:27:01
this is an OP.
2:27:04
There's step two. And these
numbers have deteriorated after
2:27:08
the fall because of, you know,
many infrastructure have
2:27:12
collapsed. There's still a
struggle for daily services.
2:27:16
People are getting hardly an
hour of electricity, especially
2:27:20
in areas that were under
resolution control, there's a
2:27:22
price hike as well. So the
sudden change in the regime also
2:27:27
meant to change in the economy.
The regime had a subsidy over
2:27:32
basic commodities like bread
fuel, and now this has been
2:27:37
lifted. So suddenly, the price
of bread went up 10 folds
2:27:41
overnight. The cost of
2:27:46
commuting went up four folds
overnight. So ordinary people
2:27:51
are really, really struggling to
survive, despite that sense of
2:27:55
relief and joy that finally the
regime is gone, we have seen a
2:27:59
number of international
delegations visiting Syria this
2:28:02
week, including representatives
from here in the United States.
2:28:06
Have we learned anything new
about the discussions about any
2:28:10
kind of, perhaps provisional
agreements, or at least how
2:28:14
those governments will interact
with each other after those
2:28:17
visits? We don't know much about
the meeting with the head of
2:28:20
HDS, but we know that on the
table there were, there were
2:28:25
issues like lifting the
prescription of HTS as a
2:28:29
terrorist organization, also
lifting the sanctions and
2:28:33
providing international
assistance for reconstructions.
2:28:39
Kind of didn't learn much from
that?
2:28:42
Yeah, there's international
assistance for construction.
2:28:46
That's kind of like, okay, oil,
gas, the gas pipeline, guitar
2:28:50
pipeline, something like that.
Maybe the whole thing is
2:28:54
sketchy. Well, then I'm
surprised anyone gets mad at us
2:28:57
for this analysis. It's been
sketchy forever. You have to
2:29:01
know that he had hundreds of
1000s of prisoners, and he was
2:29:05
incinerating them in underground
ovens.
2:29:09
Yeah, this is what I'm being
told. But we never heard this
2:29:12
before. Ever.
2:29:14
I don't know why.
2:29:18
Okay, this is it was kind of
interesting for reasons that I
2:29:23
don't think everyone really
realized. Igor
2:29:27
curry love, the guy who was
killed the Russian
2:29:33
Well, yeah, this is interesting.
Exactly. This is a good, good,
2:29:37
yeah. Let's have a couple of
clips here. That's a little
2:29:40
backgrounder here, turning now
to some breaking news out of
2:29:44
Russia, where the bloodshed from
the Ukraine war has now reached
2:29:48
the front door of the Kremlin
take a look at this video, which
2:29:51
appears to show the
assassination of Lieutenant
2:29:55
General Igor karoloff, the head
of Russia's chemical,
2:29:58
radiological and biological.
2:30:00
Weapons unit happening just
miles from the Kremlin Ukraine
2:30:04
security service claims
responsibility for the killing.
2:30:07
The explosive device was planted
in a scooter next to the
2:30:12
entrance of a Moscow apartment
building in the blast killing
2:30:14
both kerolov and his assistant,
NBC kirsimens has the details
2:30:20
here,
2:30:22
even the timing is dramatic.
Just yesterday, Ukraine charged
2:30:26
Lieutenant General curry love
with war crimes. Today, they say
2:30:30
they have killed him in Moscow,
Russian media reporting a bomb
2:30:33
was taped to the handle of a
scooter. Yeah, it was quite
2:30:37
dramatic. And of course, we had
video, but I think this report
2:30:40
also has a nap pop this morning
in Moscow, a dramatic explosion
2:30:45
killing a key Russian general
and his assistant. The blast so
2:30:49
powerful it blew the bricks from
the walls and the remains of a
2:30:53
scooter it was loaded with
explosives. Ukraine says
2:30:57
an operation both audacious and
precise, the bomb detonating as
2:31:02
he moved between a building and
a car and Ukraine's most
2:31:06
ambitious assassination deep
inside Russia since the war
2:31:09
began.
2:31:11
Lieutenant General Igor
Coronavirus was chief of the
2:31:14
Russian army's chemical weapons
Division. He was sanctioned by
2:31:17
the UK in October for the
alleged use of chemical weapons
2:31:21
in Ukraine, according to a
Ukrainian security source
2:31:24
briefed on the matter, COVID
love was an absolutely
2:31:27
legitimate target, since he gave
orders to use prohibited
2:31:30
chemical weapons against the
Ukrainian military, such an
2:31:34
inglorious end awaits all who
killed Ukrainians. The Source
2:31:38
asking for anonymity because
they aren't authorized to
2:31:41
discuss it publicly. Russian
state television leading with
2:31:46
news of the killing, saying the
bomb was remotely operated.
2:31:51
Comes as the war started after
Russia invaded. Ukraine enters
2:31:55
its third year, both sides still
taking massive losses already.
2:32:00
Russian investigators are
calling the bombing an act of
2:32:03
terrorism, but they will be
under pressure to explain
2:32:06
another high profile
assassination in the Russian
2:32:10
capital. So this is all kind of
standard reporting. I don't for
2:32:13
a minute buy that somehow
Ukraine is able to kill this guy
2:32:16
in Moscow. But this next clip
leads me into some interesting
2:32:21
things this guy has been saying
that might explain this
2:32:25
assassination. Curry love was
just charged on Monday by
2:32:29
Ukraine for using banned
chemical weapons during Russia's
2:32:32
invasion. We know he was a big
player in Russia's propaganda
2:32:34
apparatus, constantly spreading
lies about Ukraine and America.
2:32:39
He once claimed the US, in fact,
was planning to use drones
2:32:42
designed to spread infected
mosquitoes, and as the head of
2:32:46
the biological weapons unit, he
was accused of using a riot
2:32:50
control gas against Ukrainian
troops that caused extreme
2:32:54
irritation and pain in the eyes
and lungs. Just bigger picture
2:32:58
here. What does this mean for
the Russian the Russian war
2:33:02
effort and Kremlin's overall
goals? Do you think? Well, I
2:33:07
think they're going to focus
their attention on the
2:33:09
battlefield. They are making
progress like I suggested. By
2:33:12
the way, general curry office
also accused of using not just
2:33:16
riot control agents CS and cn,
but also nitro chloroform, which
2:33:22
was used in the First World War
and is banned by the chemical
2:33:26
weapons treaty to which Russia
is a signatory.
2:33:32
Okay, so, oh, tear gas. Oh, my
goodness, how horrible. Oh, tear
2:33:36
gas. They use CS gas, I might
add, during the riots at
2:33:39
Berkeley in this in the late
60s, beyond the students, we use
2:33:43
that on our citizens here.
What's the big deal? But it was
2:33:46
some things. He said on Russia.
You heard about the mosquitos
2:33:49
from drones, that was
interesting. And I have here
2:33:53
some audio, which I will
translate in real time of krill
2:33:57
off on Russian television. So
the reporter says the growth in
2:34:02
illnesses caused by atypical
infections has been noted in a
2:34:05
number of countries right now.
So can we say that this is the
2:34:08
result of some help from
American biologists? And he
2:34:11
answers, we can't say this so
indiscriminately. We are public
2:34:15
officials, after all, as for
biological weapons, if we assess
2:34:18
the damage caused by COVID over
the course of two years and
2:34:22
around the world. The reporter
says the main pandemic lasted
2:34:25
two years. He says it cannot
even be compared with the damage
2:34:29
from World War Two. It is dozens
of times greater. However, those
2:34:32
who make the profits, such as
Big Pharma. She says, do you
2:34:36
mean all the pharmaceutical
companies? And he says, yes, the
2:34:39
profits of the pharma companies,
which are mainly in the US, are
2:34:43
colossal. That's the way it is.
So that's the first clip. And
2:34:49
then the second clip, the
reporter says, so the question
2:34:53
is, he says the question is
being asked, we provide
2:34:56
documents? Oh, the reaction of
the USA that we are talking.
2:35:00
About is typical. There has not
been a single refutation of the
2:35:04
documents we presented. We sent
more than 2000 pages of these
2:35:07
documents to the United Nations.
I presume he's talking about the
2:35:10
documents that were found about
Bio Labs in Ukraine.
2:35:15
I think there were 11 of them.
Yes, the reporter says, what
2:35:19
sort of reply Did you receive
curry love says, we usually get
2:35:22
two replies, a standard one from
the USA is all that is done is
2:35:25
in the interest of the national
security of the USA, and you
2:35:28
have to trust us. Reporter says,
Trust them blindly. He says,
2:35:32
Yes, trust them blindly. They
have a policy of global
2:35:35
biological control. They
understood that this works, and
2:35:38
that by creating artificial
crises, which are biological in
2:35:41
nature. They can rule the world.
There's nothing they do for
2:35:45
free, even when they provide
supplies to certain states free
2:35:48
of charge. They are not as free
of charge as they say. So this
2:35:52
guy was a problem. He was he and
so, yeah, all those. Oh, yeah,
2:35:57
Ukraine did this. Sure, sure.
Ukraine killed him. I don't
2:36:02
believe it for a second.
2:36:04
I don't either very unhandy to
have this happening. This guy
2:36:09
out there running around,
shooting his mouth off, yeah,
2:36:12
this was some high end pros that
killed this guy. Yeah, the Oh
2:36:15
yeah. That was well done. Well
done.
2:36:21
And he was, he was shooting his
mouth off about the biological
2:36:24
labs all around Ukraine, which
was in the conversation when the
2:36:28
war first broke out, disappeared
from the from the discussion,
2:36:31
especially in the mainstream
media. Nobody wants to talk
2:36:34
about it or say anything about
it. No, and it's this guy keep
2:36:37
bringing it up and other things
issues that I didn't hear about
2:36:41
the mosquitos, but that sounds
like something we dream up. Is
2:36:44
some crackpot ideas.
2:36:46
Sounds like it,
2:36:49
yeah, um, I
2:36:51
have a little bit of climate
change stuff. If you want to
2:36:54
switch, I actually have two
clips too well. Why don't you
2:36:57
give us some climate change
clips? A minor, minor. So you'd
2:37:00
be probably best to start with
these. This is about the key
2:37:03
deer,
2:37:05
which a little bitty deer. It's
like a deer. It's like a white
2:37:09
tailed deer. That's about 1/3
the size of a normal deer. Mm,
2:37:12
hmm, by the way, I plague a deer
in my yard. Hell no.
2:37:17
They got the biggest ears these
particular brands. Oh, the easy
2:37:21
to shoot at.
2:37:25
The old trick is you put a salt
lick down somewhere, and then
2:37:28
you just trap them, kill them,
shoot them. Easy. Okay,
2:37:33
and it's all because of climate
change. And there's a couple of
2:37:36
statements in here that are just
worth it. There's a type of
2:37:39
white tail deer that's unique to
the Florida Keys. It's been on
2:37:43
the endangered species list for
nearly 60 years, and only about
2:37:46
800 of them remain, and its
habitat is under growing threat
2:37:51
from rising sea levels. William
Brangham has the latest in our
2:37:54
series saving species.
2:37:58
These tiny deer roam freely
across front yards and grays on
2:38:02
the side of the road on some of
the many islands of the lower
2:38:05
Florida Keys. They are very
gentle, very, very gentle, and
2:38:10
the longer you live here, the
more you want to protect them.
2:38:13
The key deer is the smallest
subspecies of the North American
2:38:17
white tailed deer. They're about
the size of a golden retriever,
2:38:21
they only come to about 24 to 30
inches at shoulder height. So
2:38:25
they are substantially smaller,
and they're only found here in
2:38:28
the Florida Keys. The first
written record of the key deer
2:38:31
came from a 16th century Spanish
shipwreck survivor. They curry
2:38:35
live on only about two dozen of
the keys, 1700 islands swimming
2:38:41
or wading between them and
living in the mangroves, pine
2:38:44
Rocklands and freshwater
wetlands.
2:38:48
Climate change is the thing
that's going to get them, but
2:38:50
it's still very habitat that are
under threat from rising sea
2:38:54
levels. Chris berg is with the
Nature Conservancy. This is a
2:38:57
success story. Until now, these
animals have been doing very
2:39:01
well. They've been coming back.
Population is not only stable,
2:39:04
but growing,
2:39:06
but it's only a matter of time
as the sea continues to rise,
2:39:09
that their habitat availability
is is the thing that undoes the
2:39:14
key deer. Oh, oh boy. Climate,
climate. So in the second clip,
2:39:20
they're going to talk about
rising sea levels, but the
2:39:23
National Ocean, wait, wait. So I
just thought I'd interrupt it as
2:39:27
we speak, and ask you, what is
the what do you think the sea
2:39:31
level rise are going to say?
What do you think is going to
2:39:33
be? Is going to be 17 centimeter
like 12 centimeters of foot?
2:39:38
What do you think? Uh, uh,
2:39:43
won't take much to kill these
poor deer.
2:39:46
Well, let's play the clip, and
you'll find out. But the
2:39:49
National Oceanic and Atmospheric
Administration estimates that in
2:39:53
75 years time, sea levels around
parts of the keys could rise
2:39:57
anywhere from one and a half to.
2:40:00
Seven feet, seven feet.
2:40:04
Sure my seven feet. Oh, man.
Well, the reality of climate
2:40:12
change is here, and boy do we
notice that in Italy, up in the
2:40:16
mountain the they had completely
redone the enduring COVID redid,
2:40:20
the entire little mini resort
there. They had not had snow
2:40:24
there for five years, five
years, five years, no snow due
2:40:29
to climate change. And this year
there's snow due to climate
2:40:33
change, a record breaking
temperatures to devastating
2:40:36
disasters. 2024 brought us
closer to the reality of what
2:40:39
climate change looks and feels
like according to the National
2:40:43
Oceanic and Atmospheric
Administration, the Atlantic
2:40:46
basin experienced 18 named
storms throughout the year.
2:40:50
Between January and November,
the average US temperature was
2:40:52
57 degrees Fahrenheit, roughly
three degrees above average, and
2:40:56
the warmest ever for that
period. During that same time,
2:41:00
precipitation levels totaled
more than 29 inches, which is
2:41:03
roughly one and a half inches
more than average. CBS News
2:41:06
National Environmental
correspondent David Schechter
2:41:09
joins us now. David, 2023 was
the hottest on record. How did
2:41:13
2024 fair? I feel like you're
always bringing me in for the
2:41:16
good news here, 2024 is set to
be even hotter than 2023
2:41:21
mark for the first time ever
that our average temperature on
2:41:24
the planet will be warmer than
1.5 degrees above pre industrial
2:41:29
numbers. 1.5 is this key number
that came out of the Paris
2:41:32
Climate Accord in 2015 that was
were supposed to stay below 1.5
2:41:36
degrees Celsius. The issue here
is that it's a combination of
2:41:40
average of years. So we haven't
violated that climate accord
2:41:45
yet, but we're certainly not
heading in the right direction
2:41:47
at all. That was that was new.
That was new to me. It's not 1.5
2:41:52
per year. It's an average, how
many years average of what
2:41:58
to change. The movie is called
moving the goal post. Yeah, we
2:42:02
change the way the calculations
done this, what we do with our
2:42:05
economic data. Oh, speaking of
such. We saw devastating heat
2:42:09
waves, hurricanes made worse by
climate change. How many major
2:42:13
events impacted the US, and how
is a warming planet
2:42:16
contributing?
2:42:18
What we talk about billion
dollar weather disasters. That's
2:42:21
sort of the number that is a
threshold for a huge disaster.
2:42:25
Wait a minute, billion dollar
disasters. So that's, that's
2:42:30
just a made up number, which, by
the way, a billion dollars was a
2:42:33
million dollars of 50 years ago.
So this, too was a movie moving
2:42:39
target. They're just making up,
making up as you go along. A
2:42:42
major disaster is a billion
dollars. US experienced 24 of
2:42:46
those weather disasters through
and climate disasters from
2:42:49
January to November of 2024 of
this year, and that is only
2:42:53
second to the number of 28 that
was last year. These $24 billion
2:42:58
emergencies, or resulted in an
estimated 418 deaths, $61
2:43:03
billion in damage. And to your
point, these storms are not
2:43:06
caused, these emergencies, not
caused by climate change, but
2:43:09
climate change is juicing the
conditions and rolling, you
2:43:13
know, sort of loading the dice
to make it potentially worse.
2:43:17
It's such a scam, juicing and
loading the dice, yeah,
2:43:23
all right, I just want to do, we
gotta, we gotta get out of here.
2:43:27
We have some people thank but I
do have a real news story here.
2:43:30
Let me see. This was an amazing
real news story that I just I
2:43:34
loved it so much. Let me see.
And
2:43:39
now back to real news tonight,
2:43:41
at 29 year old pleading not
guilty to attempted murder and a
2:43:45
few other charges after being
accused of stabbing a DJ at a
2:43:49
vegan strip club on Saturday.
Come on. Come on, vegan strip
2:43:53
club. Come on. Is Raven working
there a vegan strip club?
2:44:00
Here she comes. Oh, she's lost a
lot of weight.
2:44:06
Club. Do you have anything
2:44:09
can you top? That is what I'm
asking. No, I can't top death.
2:44:12
So you win.
2:44:14
I'm gonna show my food by
donating to no agenda. Imagine
2:44:17
all the people who could do
that. Oh, yeah, that'd be fun.
2:44:20
Yeah. We got some dynamite end
of show mixes. We have John's
2:44:32
Tip of the Day. Of course,
everybody looking forward to the
2:44:34
tip of the day. We do have some
nights and Dames, which is nice,
2:44:38
and some great meetup reports.
So first John will thank
2:44:41
everybody who came in $50 and
above for supporting this and
2:44:45
this Episode and Episode 1722,
2:44:49
yeah. Well, we start with the
Indy meet up from Greenwood,
2:44:52
Indiana. Is one of those notes
you're gonna have to read $195
2:44:55
was $5 beneath the exact
associate exact.
2:45:00
Yeah, but is a involves a
nighting at Daming. Yes sir. PBR
2:45:03
street gang gifted his winning
meeting raffle ticket. Raffle
2:45:07
ticket to Nadir, who added
dollars to it then switcherooded
2:45:11
To achieve this mom's Dame hood,
whose note follows in the
2:45:15
morning. Adam and John, I
appreciate all you do, and I'm
2:45:17
excited to finally be dame of
the best podcast in the
2:45:20
universe. My name will be Dame
Steph of the dark side for the
2:45:23
round table. I'd like Twizzlers,
potato chips and chips and
2:45:27
guacamole. I'd like to thank my
son, Nadir, for being so
2:45:31
generous, for helping me get
here. We are both devoted. No
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agenda. Fans. Have a happy 2025
and may your year be full of
2:45:38
laughter, happiness and many,
many cats. And then jingle, you
2:45:44
fools, you stupid fools. I don't
we don't have a you fools, you
2:45:47
stupid fools. Jingle that I can
recall, I never heard of one.
2:45:50
Well, we can do a service goat
though, that we can do with a
2:45:54
karma. You've got
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karma.
2:45:58
So this is a note, this from
Martin McIntyre, I'll have to
2:46:01
read this too.
2:46:03
LAUREL New Jersey, and he says,
138 42 Rest in peace, Big Mac
2:46:07
and Merry Christmas to all.
Note, I paid the fee, but the
2:46:10
donation amount is 131 42 my
dad's birthday, he passed away
2:46:14
on the seventh of December,
2:46:18
and and so I decided to read it.
Lydia Terry in Rochester, New
2:46:23
Hampshire, 125, Nathan Cochran
and Franklin, Franklin,
2:46:27
Tennessee. That's one of your
mercy. Mercy Me. Boys, right
2:46:30
there. There you go. 12345,
2:46:35
we get Mercy Me is it's
interesting that we have these
2:46:38
bands that listen to us, the
group uh. William Cotter in
2:46:42
Saint Paul, Minnesota, 120 Dan
kesterton in Colorado Springs.
2:46:48
11133, he's got a birthday call
effort, I guess himself. He's a
2:46:53
D douching. Okay,
2:46:56
hold on, hold
2:46:58
on. You've been deduced. David
Weicker in Jacksonville,
2:47:03
Florida. Wicker, you always do
that wrong. David wicker, sir,
2:47:09
by His grace, you know this one,
one, 1.22,
2:47:14
you keep doing that one wrong.
What's because weickers, I think
2:47:18
it was a senator, and is always
pronounce Weicker and spelled
2:47:21
exactly the same. And I, when I
see it, this is what I think of
2:47:24
I'll keep I'll keep correcting.
Yeah, keep jumping on me. Yes.
2:47:30
William Elliot and
2:47:32
i e r Hawaii, Hawaii.
2:47:37
105, 35
2:47:40
keep the newsletters coming. He
writes, Mary Ann Schmid in,
2:47:47
I don't know valid. What is
this? Oh, hold on. I am. He's in
2:47:52
she's in New York.
2:47:56
She's nice. She said, No, she's
in Iceland. Know where she is
2:48:01
experienced around I always said
she had a bunch of problems with
2:48:04
drones. Psyop is advanced, yes,
because they shut down an
2:48:09
airport or something, she got
stuck. Yes. Robin Tolbert in
2:48:13
Topeka, Kansas, 100 Ian field
100 Henry Davis in St
2:48:17
Petersburg, 100 dude named Ben
in, uh, Czechoslovakia, or cz
2:48:23
Czech republic. I think it's
Czech Republic.
2:48:27
And he needs a D douching for
his friend. Libor.
2:48:32
You've been deduced.
2:48:35
Brian Lillard in Prosper, Texas,
68888,
2:48:40
Allison, oh, Round Rock, Texas.
And this is 88 but it's another
2:48:44
one. Is a switch roofer tonight.
My dad, Rick, oh, you might as
2:48:48
well read this note, because
it's a nighting in the morning.
2:48:50
John Adam, like a good human
resource. I've hit my dad, Rick,
2:48:53
oh, several times in the mouth
over the years, and finally left
2:48:55
the mark. Now he listens often,
and we will discuss topics from
2:48:59
the show when we talk. I was
working my way to knighthood,
2:49:01
and this donation was to get me
there, but I cannot in good
2:49:04
faith, except this is a
switcheroo to my to give my dad
2:49:07
his knighthood for Christmas.
Merry Christmas, dad. I know I
2:49:10
speak for all three kids when I
say how blessed and grateful we
2:49:13
are to have you as a dad, not
only did you teach us all to
2:49:16
always work hard and give and
give it all we had, but it means
2:49:22
and to give it our all, but, oh,
to give it our all, but, but it
2:49:27
also means to give back to the
community, help others, and to
2:49:30
be there for your family as you
and mom continue to help us and
2:49:33
offer advice. We love you. So
please deduce the man, already
2:49:38
you've been deduced, and give
the man a Jack and Coke for the
2:49:42
round table and call him night
of the coon saw River, unless he
2:49:46
writes in for a name change.
Merry Christmas. Happy holidays
2:49:49
for everybody and get more
nations. Sincerely. Allison, sir
2:49:52
Tony of dimples and the
grandkids. Very nice. Kevin
2:49:57
McLaughlin comes up at 808. He's
our.
2:50:00
Duke of Luna, lover of American
boobs, 808, that's for show 1722
2:50:05
and here he is again, 808, for
show 1723 uh. David Steinmeier
2:50:12
in Lakeview, Michigan, 808,
another boob donation needs a D
2:50:16
douching.
2:50:19
You've been deduced, sir. Jump
up. Birthday donation for
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himself or for somebody. 7903
Amanda West in Red Wing,
2:50:29
Minnesota, 7533
2:50:32
another birthday donation for
Adam. Not me, not not you with
2:50:36
the message, I love Adam cock
with the message, I love you.
2:50:39
Happy birthday,
2:50:42
Amanda. That's a Jason Babcock.
Babcock is next, and he's in
2:50:46
Henderson, Nevada. 7017 has got
another birthday, this time for
2:50:52
himself. Age 54 sir Rick, we
read his note earlier, 6996
2:50:58
that's going to be switched out
to somebody else's name, if we
2:51:02
remember to do that. Baron sir
phenom in Appleton, Wisconsin,
2:51:06
69 to 69
2:51:09
Gordon Walton in Austin, Texas.
6853 sir Gordon, for sure.
2:51:15
Dame Rita Sparks, Nevada, 6733
2:51:18
Merry Christmas. Whoops. There
she is again in the next show,
2:51:22
Dame, read as Sparx, Nevada,
6633
2:51:26
she's got $1 difference. Scott
Schreiber in Madrid, Maryland,
2:51:31
6035
2:51:33
Sir Kevin O'Brien in Chicago,
606,
2:51:37
Kyle to 2h. T, W, O, H, I, G,
Liberty Lake, Washington. This
2:51:46
is actually a switcheroo for
Dame Jen with a G, protector of
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women's vaginas, yay, 606
2:51:53
also small boobs. Les Tarkowski
in Kingman, Arizona, 606 Paul
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Webb and Twickenham, UK, 5555
Merry Christmas. James Edmondson
2:52:04
in South Plainfield, New Jersey,
5510 Dean Roker, 5510 Tony
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Health's in Fort Worth,
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Port worth. And this says t, u
and oh, that came as a check. So
2:52:16
it's Texas, that switcheroo to
uh, my son, Brian. Health's 5510
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Adam first in Alexandria, New
South Wales. 5272
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Jeroen
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van Harry and you run for
hearing in
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funny, I can't do it. Foothill
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Robert Newell, 5250
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Baron Henry Panch, Pancho Rancho
Palos Verdes, 5242
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there you go. No agenda merch.
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Donated. No agenda show. No use
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Stickers, yes. Forrest, Martin,
5005 Andrew Benz in Imperial
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Missouri. 5005 now the rest of
these people are $50 donors. I'm
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just gonna run through them,
name and location, starting with
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Gallatin, Tennessee, a Gallatin.
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Corey Bennett in Denver,
Colorado. Scott lavender in
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Montgomery, Texas. Luke Olson in
Alexandria, Virginia. Andrew
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gusik in Greensboro, North
Carolina. Corey Katzen Cave
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Creek, Arizona. Natalie Martin
in Snohomish, Washington.
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Nicholas rudovich in Harpers
Ferry, West Virginia. Michael
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sycora in New Richmond,
Wisconsin. Baroness knight in
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Edmonds, Washington. Baron Allen
bean in Beaverton, Oregon, and
2:54:03
last on our list, Michael
Statham, Parts Unknown. Those
2:54:07
are all $50 donors. Want to
thank all these people and
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And we do have some birthdays.
Jason Babcock, turned 54 on the
2:54:42
17th, sir job jump celebrate on
the 20th. Dan Kesterson, he
2:54:47
celebrated his birthday
yesterday. Amanda West says,
2:54:49
Happy Birthday to Adam. He
celebrates today. Happy
2:54:52
birthday. Nicole wehrman,
turning 54 tomorrow, sir pursuit
2:54:56
of peace and tranquility. Happy
birthday to his key.
2:55:00
Birth on december 24 Sir Brian
turned 66 on Jen on Christmas
2:55:05
Day. And Melissa Benavidez
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2:55:09
happy 43rd birthday he will be
celebrating on January 1. We say
2:55:14
happy birthday to everybody here
on behalf of the best podcast in
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the universe. Title changes.
2:55:21
The title changes. We do have
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2:55:31
becomes Sir Don, Baron of
Chandler, and Sir Rick, who was
2:55:35
an Earl, now becomes sir Rick,
Duke of Washington, minus
2:55:38
Seattle and the rest of those
crazies in King County.
2:55:41
Congratulations and thank you to
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support of the no agenda show
when you move up that peerage
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ladder before we get to our
Dames and nights, a layaway Dame
2:55:52
note here from Nicole weirman,
who we just heard, had a
2:55:55
birthday call out there. She
celebrating tomorrow. Dear John
2:55:59
Adam, thank you for your hard
work every week, even on
2:56:01
holidays. As a former hospital
nurse, I know what that's like.
2:56:05
That's right. We are, we are
just like nurses, and we are
2:56:08
nursing your amygdala. I've been
a sustaining producer since
2:56:12
changing my contribution from
public radio to your show at
2:56:15
John's urging. There it is. It
works. I could go on and on,
2:56:20
like telling you about my recent
persimmon recipe adventures, but
2:56:24
I'll keep it brief. Instead,
today, I'm claiming my dame hood
2:56:26
to celebrate my 54th birthday on
Monday, I would like to be known
2:56:30
as Dame Nikki ray of prosperity
Park. And can I get an order of
2:56:35
batter fried Wisconsin cheese
curds at the round table.
2:56:42
Wow, that is, that's quite the
order there. I've not heard it.
2:56:46
That's a new one for the table.
Out of the
2:56:50
and go pack go as they play on
my birthday, Monday night. Thank
2:56:53
you very much. Well, you bet.
And she's into Tualatin.
2:56:57
Tualatin, she's in Oregon. She's
in Oregon. Is where she is.
2:57:00
Well, why don't you get ready to
hop up on the round table here
2:57:03
as we get a blade for our Dames
and nights. It's been a hot
2:57:06
minute since we've had some
nightings and damings. John,
2:57:09
yeah, yeah, right here. There it
is, on the podium, please.
2:57:14
Nicole wehrman, Steph, Singh,
deadlifson and Rick, oh, all of
2:57:20
you have reached in no agenda
night or Dame status, $1,000 or
2:57:24
more to the best podcast in the
universe. And I'm very proud to
2:57:27
pronounce the Kate the as Dame
Nikki ray of prosperity Park,
2:57:31
Dame Steph of the dark slide,
sir Singh, protector of the
2:57:34
Moonies and Night of the coon
saw river for you. We've got
2:57:37
hookers and blow rent boys and
Chardonnay, coffee ice cream,
2:57:41
Twizzlers, potato chips and
chips and guacamole, Jack and
2:57:43
Coke, batter fried Wisconsin
cheese curds. And of course,
2:57:47
we've got Bucha vanilla, bong
hits and bourbon, sparkling
2:57:49
cider escorts, ginger and
durable breast milk and Pablo
2:57:52
man as always, the mutton and
the me. Congratulations,
2:57:55
everybody. It's to have you here
on the on the podium. Go to no
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Signet rings. That means that
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and correspondence. Put your
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along, as always, with a
certificate of authenticity. And
2:58:18
welcome to the round table our
brand new nights and days. Got a
2:58:31
short list, very short list
today, but we do have two meetup
2:58:34
reports to make up for the time.
Here's the indie December meetup
2:58:38
report. No, this is day Maria,
and this is Sir Mark, certainly
2:58:42
glad to have all of the no
agenda family here to our house.
2:58:45
It was a Merry Christmas to all,
and Happy New Year in the
2:58:48
morning, John and Adam, sir PBR
street King, enjoying mutton and
2:58:52
mead at Mark and Maria's this
holiday season. Team Trinity say
2:58:55
Merry Christmas to the no agenda
nation, guys. It's Diane in
2:58:59
Annapolis. Another fabulous
evening with Mark and Maria.
2:59:04
Gosh, I wish you guys were here.
Sir Benny, here, and it's like a
2:59:08
party. Dame Swanny, Merry
Christmas and Happy New Year.
2:59:13
Now they're from Indianapolis,
after two years and much money
2:59:17
later, mom, you are now a day.
Hey,
2:59:20
this is Emily the shuffle CRad
spook. I'm on the spot and I'm
2:59:23
missing a net because she came
yesterday on the wrong day. Sir
2:59:25
bursty here, just enjoying the
camaraderie with everyone here
2:59:29
in Indy. And Merry Christmas to
all. Gary here, interesting. Sir
2:59:32
rip of maple leaves the country
and Syria goes to hell. What a
2:59:36
coincidence. Sir Edward of
tatton Hall, Baron of flyover
2:59:39
country, wishing Adam and John
and the entire global no agenda
2:59:43
family, a very merry Christmas.
This is Nick from Indy. I
2:59:48
brought some bits of ball in I
brought some hackle slack, and
2:59:51
I'm ready to eat Maria's dogs.
Merry
2:59:56
Christmas. We wish you a merry
Christmas. We.
3:00:00
You Wish You a Merry Christmas.
3:00:07
They never disappoint. Those in
me should clip that little part
3:00:11
at the end there. For end of
show. I wish I could do it right
3:00:14
now, but I can do it on the next
show. For end of show, hey, West
3:00:19
Palm Beach threw axes and drank
tequila
3:00:23
in the morning. John Adam, this
is Brian from the West Palm
3:00:26
Beach. Acts throwing meet up
where, surprisingly, everyone
3:00:29
has their fingers and toes
rebated. And in fact, I was
3:00:31
flashed by the AX master in the
morning. I'm an unexpected and
3:00:35
unrealized act master thrower
for every green guy in the
3:00:38
morning. This is 4h mama. They
don't allow me around sharp
3:00:40
objects. This is all what do you
call when a group of knife
3:00:43
throwing new agenda producers
have a successful meetup in
3:00:46
accident? Hey, this is Ronnie in
the morning. It's Leslie in the
3:00:49
morning. We drank and we threw
things. This is the Reiki
3:00:52
Princess, so excited and
grateful for another amazing
3:00:55
Florida meetup. We threw axes
and knives and even some shovels
3:00:58
because one of our nights,
flirted with our smoking hot, 25
3:01:02
year old AX master or AX
mistress, who ended up flashing
3:01:05
him and giving us all the
special treatment. We also had
3:01:08
some need. You never know what
will happen at these meetups.
3:01:11
It's like a party. Happy
holidays. Everyone.
3:01:16
All right, West Palm Beach.
Thank you very much. Good, good
3:01:19
editing, good reports. There.
Always appreciate it. There is a
3:01:22
meetup taking place today. It is
in Los Banos California. So it
3:01:28
is just getting underway soon.
It 3:30pm
3:01:32
that is the resist we much meet
up me and Ed's pizza in Los
3:01:36
Banos California. So make sure
you catch that we do have
3:01:40
meetups throughout the rest of
the year, Bedford, Texas on the
3:01:43
28th Fort Wayne, Indiana, Egan,
Minnesota on the 30th. And then
3:01:47
after the new year, we have
Raleigh, North Carolina,
3:01:49
Colorado Springs, Rohnert Park,
California, Baton Rouge,
3:01:54
Louisiana. It keeps on going. Go
to no agenda meetups.com. Do
3:01:57
yourself a huge favor. Find
yourself on these meetups. You
3:02:01
need the you need the buzz that
you get from being with real
3:02:04
people. You know that little,
that little hit you get that
3:02:07
little just, ah, yes, I like
being with human beings, not
3:02:11
something on social media. Go to
no agenda meetups.com. Find a
3:02:14
meet up near you. If you can't
find one, find one near you.
3:02:17
Then just start one yourself.
It's easy. No agenda,
3:02:20
meetups.com,
3:02:23
sometimes you want to go hang
out with all the nights and
3:02:27
days.
3:02:32
It's like a party.
3:02:40
It's like a party.
3:02:43
Now you're not going to tell me
you don't have a single ISO. Are
3:02:47
you? I'm going to tell you that
I don't have a single ISO. How
3:02:51
can you not have an ISO, knowing
that I will not have time
3:02:55
traveling to get ISOs. But then
I want you to use one of the
3:02:59
ones from the last show, which I
put produced three good ones,
3:03:02
and they were all usable and you
didn't use them. Let me see, oh,
3:03:06
second
3:03:10
I'm hearing Tina's. She's
playing reels on Instagram.
3:03:15
Uh, let me see I have Yeah, no,
no, yeah, that one is that one
3:03:20
of the ones we use that's a good
one, yes. What was this? I think
3:03:24
that thing is on the fritz.
Didn't we use? We didn't use
3:03:27
that one. That was yeah, no, you
know, yeah, yeah, no, yeah, no,
3:03:31
you know, yeah. We'll use, you
know, you know, you know, yeah.
3:03:33
That's all good, because it is
time now for John's Tip of the
3:03:37
Day.
3:03:40
Last,
3:03:44
sometimes battle.
3:03:47
All right, so before we do the
tip of the day, I'm going to do
3:03:50
a retrospective on another tip
of the day. Okay? Because
3:03:53
somebody sent me this very
interesting note, which I think
3:03:57
is somewhat scandalous. Oh no, a
scandal. He says this is from
3:04:02
producer Fred and he writes in
I've been using the Libby app
3:04:06
for several years now, and
noticed something interesting.
3:04:09
The app tells you how many
copies, digital copies of each
3:04:13
book the library owns. I was
frequently on long hold lines
3:04:18
waiting to borrow a copy of
audio books which I had that
3:04:22
have been checked out, popular
titles, especially classical
3:04:26
literature, may have only have
one or two copies available.
3:04:29
Alternatively, autobiographies
and other books by leaning
3:04:33
leading political figures often
have 200 or more copies on the
3:04:40
quote, unquote, shelf with very,
very few ever checked out.
3:04:46
Is it possible that our public
libraries are subsidizing select
3:04:49
people by funneling public funds
through the over purchasing of
3:04:54
excess digital copies of audio
books nobody wants to read my
3:04:59
local.
3:05:00
Ray branch had over 100 digital
copies of Stacey Abrams books,
3:05:06
500 copies of Michelle Obama's
book, for example, only two to
3:05:13
three ever checked out reach.
This is a scam. Tell me about
3:05:20
it. A scandalous scam, no less.
So this is how that was quite
3:05:23
interesting. I think that's
super interesting, yeah, because
3:05:26
these guys get these huge
advances. And so there's
3:05:28
somebody's in on this. This is
like a wink wig, null, okay, you
3:05:32
can buy 500 copies of Michelle's
book. Well,
3:05:37
we're not gonna sell or even
check out that many. Just, just,
3:05:41
just do it. We'll get, make sure
you get the government funding
3:05:44
in. Wow, wow. This is a go. This
is a scam. Sure. This is an
3:05:48
outrageous scam.
3:05:51
All right. Uh, Tip of the Day.
Tip of the this is a spice that
3:05:55
people should all get a hold of.
I noticed I did this. These
3:05:58
spices. Are you bad as spice
ones before, but this is even a
3:06:03
more generalized product that
you can use on everything. Now,
3:06:07
I've always been a big fan of
spice blenders because they can.
3:06:10
They'll blend up stuff. They
tell you, you know, these
3:06:12
cooking shows, and show you how
to do it yourself. 90% of the
3:06:15
time, they're not tested enough,
and they're never perfect. I was
3:06:20
one noticing this recently on a
show where they were showing the
3:06:23
America's Test Kitchen, and they
were making up spices that were
3:06:27
you could beat easily with Tony
C,
3:06:31
which is kind of a tip, okay, a
dope Adobo from Goya and get the
3:06:37
big, giant thing of It, adobo
seasoning. Adobo seasonings, a
3:06:41
Mexican seasoning that that Goya
big Trump supporter, by the way,
3:06:46
Goya makes and the one you want
is the either the plain one with
3:06:50
nothing added to it, or the one
con
3:06:54
con pepper has got pepper in it.
The those are the two. There's a
3:06:58
if you go to the Goya website,
the adobo page will show you all
3:07:02
kinds of screwy ones I have
never seen. I shop in giant mix,
3:07:06
which is another thing I
recommend shopping in giant
3:07:08
Mexican mercados. These are
massive supermarkets that
3:07:13
they're in all around the
country. We have four or five in
3:07:16
the Bay Area, and they have all
these spices, and they have the
3:07:20
Goya Adobo, but they don't have
all these screwball ones that
3:07:23
they have on the website. Don't
get any of those. Get the plain
3:07:28
adobo, and you put it on steaks,
you put it on chicken, you can
3:07:32
put it in your salad, you can
put it anywhere. This stuff is
3:07:34
amazing. And here's the kicker,
unlike a lot of these spice
3:07:38
blends, there's absolutely not a
trace of anything that relates
3:07:41
to wheat. Thus, Mimi and other
people that have actual wheat
3:07:46
allergies can use this spice,
and you can use as much as you
3:07:50
want. I think that is a not just
a great tip, it is a great tip
3:07:55
for people with wheat issues.
3:07:58
Exactly.
3:08:00
Are you looking for good advice?
Perhaps something practical, or
3:08:05
something you really need
3:08:07
try the new agenda. Tip of the
day, professional quality tips
3:08:11
from the best podcast in the
universe, created by Dana
3:08:15
burnetti. Everybody, that's
right. And that concludes our
3:08:18
broadcasts, partially from the
home of
3:08:23
Michelangelo. No, I'm not
Michelangelo da Vinci. Yeah, Da
3:08:27
Vinci's hometown. That's what I
meant to say.
3:08:30
And let me see, we've got end of
show mixes coming up here from
3:08:36
Jeff Crocker, who's been doing a
bang up job, and Sir Joe ho who
3:08:41
I'm not sure if he sang this or
if he got this one from some
3:08:46
some suno AI outfit, but it's
pretty good.
3:08:51
I must say, I like the lyrics,
and it's fun to listen to. It's
3:08:54
a toe Tapper
3:08:56
and coming up next on the no
agenda stream, troll room.io,
3:09:01
and, of course, your modern
podcast apps. We've got grumpy
3:09:05
old Benz with a Christmas
miracle. Ah, who doesn't love
3:09:08
it? Coming to you from Florence
in Italy. And of course, I will
3:09:12
be here, and I'll be in
Amsterdam for the next show
3:09:15
before we head home in the
morning. Everybody. I'm Adam
3:09:18
Curry, yeah, from Northern
Silicon Valley, where it's
3:09:21
drying out. I'm John C Dvorak.
Remember us at no agenda
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donations.com We'll see you on
Thursday. Until then, adios mo
3:09:30
Fauci and such.
3:09:41
Upon review of available
imagery, it appears that many of
3:09:44
the reported settings are
actually manned aircraft that
3:09:47
are being operated.
3:09:51
This is over my house right now.
You.
3:10:00
And
3:10:01
equipment, there are no recorded
or confirmed drone sightings in
3:10:04
any restricted airspace we
certainly take
3:10:17
seriously for threat that can be
both behind our
3:10:20
systems
3:10:27
the reported sightings there do,
however, highlight a gap in
3:10:30
authority, and so we urge
Congress to pass important
3:10:33
legislation that will extend and
expand existing counterbalance
3:10:36
so that we are better prepared
to identify and mitigate any
3:10:41
potential threats to airports or
other critical infrastructure,
3:10:44
and so that state and local
authority provided all the tools
3:10:47
that they need
3:10:49
to respond to such threats.
3:11:00
As well in Silicon Valley, where
the tech rows play, John's
3:11:04
decking the halls in a digital
way. Mimi's got the lights
3:11:08
they're blinking and sync with
algorithms buzzing, no time to
3:11:12
blink. Down
3:11:20
in Texas, it's a whole different
scene. Tina's roasting brisket,
3:11:24
where the air is clean. Adam's
got the tune spinning vinyl so
3:11:28
loud, Fredericksburg rocking,
the drawing a crowd. It's a no
3:11:33
agenda Christmas. Crank it up
tonight. From region nine to
3:11:36
region six, we're feeling all
right. The pod father and the
3:11:40
buzz killer, bringing the cheer
with a rock and no agenda to
3:11:43
close out the
3:11:52
air John's got his wine of
vintage so fine, riffing on the
3:11:56
news conspiracies align Adam's
in the groove with a jingle or
3:12:00
two calling out the Grifters.
Yeah, you know who the jingles
3:12:05
are blaring. The trolls hit the
floor. Get more nations rocking
3:12:09
like never before. We toast the
producers, the nights and the
3:12:13
days. No agendas. The podcast
breaking all the chains. No
3:12:18
agenda. Christmas cranking up
tonight from region nine to
3:12:21
region six, we're feeling
alright upon father and the bus
3:12:25
killer, bring in the chair with
a Rock and no agenda to close
3:12:29
out the air. See
3:12:53
podcast.org/n,
3:12:56
a,
3:12:58
yeah, no, no, yeah, I.