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December 29th, 2024 • 3h 16m

1725: Artificial Indian

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0:01
Round 10!
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Adam Curry, John C.
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Devorah.
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December 29, 2024, this is your award-winning
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Cuban Asian Media Assassination Episode 1725.
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This is no agenda.
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Rejecting the jet lag and broadcasting live from
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the heart of the Chichago country here in
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FEMA Region Number 16.
0:22
Good morning, everybody.
0:24
I'm Adam Curry.
0:24
And we're here in Silicon Valley where we're
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all asking the same question.
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Who the hell buys food from Home Shopping
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Network?
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I'm John C.
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Devorah.
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It's Clackvaughn and Buzzkill.
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In the morning!
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The bigger question is, why were you watching
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the Home Shopping Network?
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Oh, I watch it all the time.
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I love the Home Shopping Network.
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QVC and the other one, the big one,
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which is the Jewelry TV, JTV.
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But isn't Instagram and TikTok, they're basically the
0:54
new Home Shopping Networks now?
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I don't know.
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I never bought anything from them.
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Oh, oh, the ladies, they buy everything off
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of Instagram.
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I've never, no.
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No, well, you're not the ladies.
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I'm not the ladies for one thing.
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You're not the ladies.
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No, you're not.
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Maybe I'll catch up.
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You're not the ladies.
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But they're selling breaded chicken cutlets this morning
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on Home Shopping.
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All kinds of food is prepared.
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It's like, why?
1:22
Who's going to buy?
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Oh, all you have to do is heat
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it up, you know, and it's not cheap.
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But this is what has become of our
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intake here.
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It's pathetic, to be honest about it.
1:33
Who's going to buy breaded chicken cutlets from
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Home Shopping Network and then reheat it?
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Well, they're setting you up for their next
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product.
1:43
This next item we have is a special
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discount on Ozempic.
1:47
Yeah, we haven't done that yet.
1:49
It's coming.
1:50
It's coming.
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So the end is near.
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The Skynet is closing in on us.
1:59
Let me tell you about our return from
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Europe.
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Oh, yes.
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Now, OK, well, you have to brief everyone.
2:06
If you haven't listened to the show for
2:07
a while, Adam has been in Europe now.
2:09
He came back during a horrendous moment in
2:13
flight history because all the airports were closed.
2:16
There was there was delays everywhere.
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I was watching the news thing.
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See, I hope Adam gets back in time
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for the show.
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Yeah, no, there was no problem whatsoever.
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Well, good.
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But again, they psyched me out.
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But I will say this about that.
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Facial recognition is here.
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Leaving Schiphol Airport, facial recognition to exit customs.
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That's the EU in most countries, except for
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the United States, of course.
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You have to go through customs when you
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leave so they know you left.
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I've never understood why we don't have that.
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But you walk through a little a little
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gate.
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Good to go.
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Gate opens.
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Walk through.
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Board onto Delta.
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Do you need your boarding pass, your passport?
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No.
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Facial recognition.
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Good to go.
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Come into the United States.
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We came to Atlanta.
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Now, I will say we got global entry
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because the last time we came in, we
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came back from Mexico.
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We stood in line for two hours.
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I'm like, OK, I'm giving up my biometric
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data for this.
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This is crazy.
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I haven't had global entry in at least
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maybe about 10 years.
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And you walk up to the kiosk.
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I have my global entry card.
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I've got my passport.
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No, no, no.
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Go.
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And then you walk up to the customs
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agent.
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He's just waving you on through.
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It's facial recognition all the way through, which,
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of course, means now with the flip of
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the switch, they can block me, stop me
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from going anywhere.
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It was a flip of the switch.
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Yeah.
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It was great on one hand.
4:00
On the other hand, just frightening.
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I had this was I told the story
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in the show before, but about looking back
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at it, maybe almost 15 years ago, maybe
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20, I was in Portugal.
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And I was at some event.
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And the next door to the event I
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was at, there was a tech event of
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sorts for police departments and security experts.
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And they had a facial recognition system there
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that you could play with.
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So and this was like 10, 15 years
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ago.
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And so and it was for it was
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designed for airports.
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And so they you go through it as
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many times as you want to do in
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anything you wanted to do.
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I was going through with my cheeks puffed
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out my hand in front of my face.
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I went through it about 10 times.
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It never missed once it got your original
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face.
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It just you couldn't fool it.
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Yeah.
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And that was the thing that bothered me.
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To this day, I remember that there's nothing
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you could do to fool it.
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You close your eyes.
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You could squint.
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You could lift one eyebrow.
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You could do all kinds of things.
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And it was not being fooled by any
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of it.
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No, I know.
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I know.
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It's it's it's a good technology.
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It's it's quite it's quite remarkable.
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Quite good.
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It's quite remarkable.
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Now, I mean, that since then, they've they've
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determined that even if you wear a mask.
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Oh, well, even the iPhone unlocks with your
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mask on these days.
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Oh, yeah.
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This stuff is good.
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And, you know, your iPhone, of course, is
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taking a snapshot every what?
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Five seconds.
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It's looking to see if you got your
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face in front of it.
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So it's take it's the whole thing.
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It's great, but it's really not great.
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It's not great at all.
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No, it's great because it's onerous.
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It's the word you look for.
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Onerous would be today's word.
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Yeah, it's onerous.
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We don't need this aggravation.
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No, not really happy with it.
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Well, let's stick with aviation, then, since you
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brought it up.
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By the way, since we have this so
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much of this facial recognition, how come they
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can't stop all crime?
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Well, now you've stumped me.
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I don't know if they can stop all
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crime, but they, you know, really catch it.
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They should be able to identify all criminals.
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It's coming.
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I don't understand.
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Many of them are recidivists that came out
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of jail or prisons.
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They obviously took pictures of their faces in
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prison.
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Yeah, so well, they can't seem to do
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it at the border.
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It works great for for people just traveling.
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Yeah, for me, it works great for me.
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Yeah.
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All right.
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The news, let me just I'm just going
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to say I do have a background clip
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on the Azerbaijan thing, if you want to
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play that.
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Well, I'll give you the the latest news
6:51
that came in overnight and then see if
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we play the backgrounder.
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Since the crash of Azerbaijan Airlines Flight 243,
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suspicions have been growing over Russia's involvement.
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On Saturday, the Kremlin said President Vladimir Putin
7:03
had apologized to his Azerbaijani counterpart over the
7:06
phone.
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He admitted that Russian air defense was active
7:09
at the time, but stopped short of taking
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responsibility.
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In the conversation, it was noted that the
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Azerbaijani passenger aircraft, which was following the schedule,
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repeatedly tried to land at the airport of
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Grozny.
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At the same time, Grozny, Mosdok and Vladikavkaz
7:23
were attacked by Ukrainian combat drones and Russian
7:26
air defense systems repelled these attacks.
7:28
The Russian president did not confirm that the
7:31
plane had been hit by a Russian air
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defense missile.
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For experts, however, there is no doubt.
7:36
They say these holes in the plane's fuselage
7:38
are proof of shrapnel from an anti-aircraft
7:41
missile.
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Meanwhile, the president of Azerbaijan, Ilham Aliyev, said
7:45
that the plane was hit in Russian airspace
7:47
by external physical interference, as suggested by survivors'
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accounts.
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Since the crash, which killed 38 people, Azerbaijan
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Airlines has announced that it would be suspending
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flights to eight other Russian cities.
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Other airlines from Kazakhstan, Israel and Dubai have
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followed suit and cancelled flights to Russia.
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So it seems pretty clear they're going to
8:09
blame it on Ukraine because Ukraine was shooting
8:14
drones into Russian airspace and it's their fault.
8:20
They just haven't quite admitted it yet.
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Do we need your background on this?
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I think the background would be good because
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there's some new material that came out just
8:28
before the show from our buddy Doug.
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Doug?
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Oh, Doug the douchebag?
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Doug the douchebag from France 24.
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Where has he been?
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I've been missing him in my life.
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He's around.
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He's back.
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All right, all right.
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I don't remember him being called Doug the
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douchebag.
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Yeah, he's Doug the douchebag.
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The bald douche, yeah.
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Is this the Kazakh air crash?
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The bald douche.
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Russian President Vladimir Putin apologized to the leader
8:54
of Azerbaijan today after the deadly Azerbaijani airline
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crash in Kazakhstan, but he didn't take responsibility
9:01
for the crash.
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In a statement, the Kremlin says it was
9:04
responding to a Ukrainian drone strike in Chechnya.
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And here's Elena Moore reports.
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In a Kremlin readout of the call, Putin
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characterized the crash, which killed 38 people, as
9:15
a tragic incident, apologizing that it happened in
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Russian airspace.
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It comes a day after White House national
9:22
security spokesman John Kirby addressed Russia's potential involvement.
9:27
We do have have seen some early indications
9:30
that would certainly point to the possibility that
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this jet was brought down by Russian air
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defense systems.
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Kirby added that an investigation conducted by Azerbaijan
9:43
and Kazakhstan is ongoing, and the U.S.
9:46
has offered its assistance.
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Where's douchebag Doug?
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No, I don't have the clip.
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I said that was this morning.
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Oh, I'm sorry.
9:54
The background clip is the one that you're
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mixing me up.
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Yeah, yeah.
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What did douchebag Doug say?
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Douchebag Doug came on France 24.
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First of all, they brought the president of
10:02
Azerbaijan this morning, came out and said Putin's
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responsible.
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What we wanted was an apology.
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He didn't give an apology.
10:09
Now what we want is a compensation for
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the lost jet and compensation for all the
10:14
dead people.
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And so he made a demand on Putin,
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which is one dictator to another.
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And this was quite interesting.
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Oh, that is.
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Douchebag Doug comes on and says, well, the
10:24
problem that Putin actually has here is that
10:27
Azerbaijan is the route that the Russians have
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been using.
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You have to go through Azerbaijan because of
10:35
all the sanctions against Russia.
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They can't do this.
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They can't do that.
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They can't fly here.
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They can't fly there.
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Azerbaijan is like the route that Russia has
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to use.
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And so he's got leverage on Putin, and
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Putin's going to have to do something about
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it.
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Well, Putin should say, talk to the Europeans.
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They got 300 billion of our money.
10:56
That would actually be quite funny if he
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could do that.
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Get it from those guys.
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So that's the situation now is that, yes,
11:04
it's Putin's fault.
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The guy says he was very, you know,
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he's very sincere about it.
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Yeah, you can acknowledge this and that, but
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where's the apology?
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He just wants an apology for shooting down
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this plane.
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Because Putin needs to figure out how to
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blame it on Ukraine.
11:24
I think that ship sailed.
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I have a couple of clips.
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I only play one here.
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This is the Russian aviation chief who went
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into a little more detail.
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Now to Kazakhstan.
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And investigations continue into what caused the crash
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of an Azerbaijani passenger plane.
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How old fashioned is this style, by the
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way?
11:46
And now to Azerbaijan.
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I'm always reminded of these old boxing clips
11:55
of the fights in the 30s and 40s.
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And you hear a guy going, round 10.
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This is cornball announcing style that died 20,
12:07
30 years ago.
12:07
Yeah, except that the BBC.
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Now to Kazakhstan and investigations continue into what
12:13
caused the crash of an Azerbaijani passenger plane
12:17
in the country on Christmas Day.
12:19
Representatives of Azerbaijan Airlines speak of external, physical
12:24
and technical interference, but they don't say what
12:27
that could have been.
12:29
38 people died in that crash, but there
12:31
were some survivors.
12:33
The plane had originally tried to land at
12:35
Grozny airport in southern Russia, but was denied
12:38
permission and diverted to Kazakhstan, where it crashed
12:42
near the airport at Aktau.
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Well, the head of Russia's aviation watchdog, Dmitry
12:47
Yadvrov, said the diversion was necessary because of
12:51
a difficult situation around Grozny airport.
12:55
I should note that the situation in the
12:57
area of Grozny airport that day during those
13:00
hours was quite difficult.
13:02
Ukrainian combat drones were mounting terrorist attacks on
13:06
civilian infrastructure in the cities of Grozny and
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Vladikavkaz.
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Because of this, all aircraft had to leave
13:14
the indicated airspace immediately.
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I like the term Ukrainian combat drones.
13:22
I haven't really heard it described that way.
13:24
UCDs, Ukrainian combat drones.
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I like the combat drone.
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Yeah, terrorist attacks.
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Okay, I like that.
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Um, so this seems pretty obvious.
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And I like that we got that douchebag
13:36
Doug info.
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There were, however, two more crashes that I
13:42
think are a little more.
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Yes, yes.
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Well, yeah, the one in Korea is a
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nasty one.
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But then, of course, I think one thing
13:48
that we should mention that we had noticed,
13:51
but we're not going to talk much about
13:52
is the Navy's shooting down of its own
13:55
F-18.
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Well, that would be three crashes.
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I'll skip the Navy's F-18, the 66.
14:02
How much was 66 million?
14:03
66 million dollars down the drain of taxpayer
14:07
money.
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Yeah, now we complain about taxpayer money.
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We always complain about taxpayer money.
14:13
There were two other crashes of note.
14:15
And yes, indeed, the first is the South
14:17
Korean airliner.
14:18
This was a dramatic moment.
14:19
The JG plane carrying 181 people crash landed
14:23
and burst into a ball of flames.
14:26
So far, two people have been pulled out
14:28
alive, but over 100 have been killed.
14:31
Officials said the landing gear of the Boeing
14:33
737 arriving from Bangkok appeared to have malfunctioned.
14:37
Local media reported it may have been caused
14:39
by birds getting into the plane system, combined
14:42
with adverse weather conditions.
14:44
They promise a thorough investigation and rescue operation.
14:47
The airline's CEO has paid tributes to those
14:50
who lost their lives.
14:51
Above all, I would like to express my
14:54
deepest condolences and apologies to the passengers and
14:58
their families whose relatives lost lives in this
15:02
accident.
15:03
Regardless of the cause of the accident, I
15:06
feel responsible as the CEO.
15:08
We at Jeju Air will do our best
15:11
to quickly resolve the accident and support the
15:14
families of the passengers.
15:16
The crash is one of the deadliest seen
15:18
in South Korea.
15:19
It is the first big test for acting
15:22
president Choi Sung-mook, who was named interim
15:24
leader of the country on Friday.
15:27
So just looking at this video right away,
15:29
I'm like, no, no, no, this is not
15:31
a bird strike.
15:34
There's some video of a puff coming out
15:36
of the engine.
15:39
The likelihood of a bird strike causing the
15:42
landing gear to not deploy is unlikely.
15:45
Also, looking at that landing, if you want
15:48
to call it a landing, no, that plane
15:51
was going very fast, had no trim, no
15:55
speed brakes, nothing was deployed.
15:58
So it looked much more like a complete
16:00
hydraulic failure.
16:03
And because, you know, you can actually lower
16:05
the gear on the 737.
16:07
You can pull a lever, a lever, and
16:10
the gear will drop just from centrifugal force,
16:13
from gravity.
16:15
It'll just drop down.
16:17
I don't know if it locks in place.
16:18
It's not a great way to do it.
16:21
But that was not happening.
16:22
If anything, it looked like they were trying
16:24
to do a touch and go and do
16:25
a go around.
16:27
And then, of course, South Korea decided to
16:29
put a very big barrier at the end
16:33
of the runway.
16:33
It's unfortunate.
16:36
It's a day wrecker.
16:38
But the same day, a KLM 737-800,
16:42
same aircraft, flight KL-1204, which you did
16:46
not hear about, overran the runway after a
16:51
diversion to Oslo.
16:53
And they said that they had a hydraulic
16:55
failure.
16:56
Smoke came from the left engine.
16:59
And now they landed okay, but they had
17:01
no control of flaps or landing gear.
17:06
So seeing that this happens on the same
17:08
day, two exact same type aircraft, I'm going
17:14
to say it would be worthwhile to look
17:16
into the latest batch of Boeing aircraft.
17:21
There may just...
17:22
Well, if they're from the same batch, which
17:24
is a possibility.
17:25
This is an old quality control thing.
17:27
You find if, you know, one goes...
17:29
This is the reason that, by the way,
17:31
just to change, I'd say, targets of the
17:35
topic.
17:36
That's why you don't buy...
17:38
When you load up with a raid for
17:40
your hard disk, a bunch of...
17:42
You buy six hard disks.
17:43
You don't buy six hard disks from the
17:47
same...
17:47
No, not from the same vendor.
17:49
No, not the same batch.
17:50
No.
17:51
No, you can get the same vendor, but
17:53
not the same batch.
17:54
Because if one fails, they all fail.
17:56
This is a very common phenomenon in high
17:59
tech.
17:59
And airplanes would be no different, or even
18:01
cars.
18:03
They, you know, when one fails from that
18:05
batch, the ones that came out that week
18:07
or that month or whatever, that weren't, you
18:09
know, before the inspectors came around and did
18:12
their job, you're going to end up with
18:14
a bunch of them failing.
18:15
Yeah, I agree.
18:15
I think you're right.
18:18
And yeah, you know, it's a good time
18:21
to blame everything on birds, you know.
18:23
Ah, it was a bird strike.
18:24
Yeah, bird flu.
18:26
Bird flu, yes.
18:27
And on that note, we do need to
18:29
go through a couple of things because some
18:31
important people have arrived back on the scene.
18:33
We start with the important introduction.
18:35
And we begin with a concerning new CDC
18:39
report on the first severe human case of
18:43
bird flu in the U.S. Samples taken
18:44
from a patient, Louisiana, show mutations that could
18:48
make it easier for this virus to spread
18:51
from person to person.
18:52
Now, right now, there's no evidence it has
18:54
passed.
18:54
No evidence.
18:55
It's been passed along to anyone else.
18:57
And the CDC says risk to the public
18:59
remains low.
19:00
But experts warn a single mutation like this
19:04
could potentially lead to another pandemic.
19:08
Yes.
19:08
And with that, ladies and gentlemen, the No
19:10
Agenda Nation, the pandemic propaganda princess is back,
19:17
scarf and all.
19:18
Joining us now is Dr. Deborah Birx.
19:22
You may remember her as the response coordinator
19:24
for the.
19:25
How does this woman even get on any
19:27
air whatsoever when she already admitted that she's
19:29
a liar?
19:31
I think there's very good reasons for this.
19:33
And as we go through a couple of
19:35
these clips, I shall explain why I believe
19:38
it.
19:39
She, by the way, Commodore Deborah Birx, former
19:44
military, although it's not on her resume, she
19:48
might have specialized in psychological operations.
19:51
She has joined a lot of different outfits.
19:55
She joined that that indoor air filter company
20:01
as the chief scientist or some nonsense like
20:05
that.
20:05
But she's also now just recently joined Texas
20:08
Tech University Health Sciences Center.
20:11
She's on all kinds of boards.
20:13
She's picking up money left and right.
20:15
Just pick some money up here, pick some
20:17
money up there.
20:18
And I'm sure she's on the this is
20:20
CNN.
20:20
I'm sure she's on the CNN payroll as
20:22
an expert to come in and talk.
20:24
You may remember her as the response coordinator
20:27
for the White House Coronavirus Task Force and
20:30
the first Trump administration.
20:32
We are very fortunate to have your expertise
20:34
as we try to figure out what's going
20:36
on with the bird flu and what it
20:37
could mean.
20:38
So, so far, 65 human cases of bird
20:42
flu have been reported in the U.S.
20:44
this year, all contracted by animals.
20:46
But now we have this new mutation in
20:49
Louisiana.
20:50
Wait, wait, wait.
20:51
All contracted by animals.
20:53
She means from animals, doesn't she?
20:55
There's going to be a lot of confusion
20:57
about that, about.
20:59
And now, is it zoonotic or zoonotic?
21:03
It's zoonotic.
21:04
Zoonotic.
21:04
When is it zoonotic?
21:06
It's only zoology.
21:08
Zoology and zoonotic.
21:10
OK, all right.
21:11
But there's going to be a lot of
21:12
confusion about it.
21:12
I did a deep dive on that just
21:15
to get that right.
21:16
I'm glad.
21:17
I'm glad.
21:17
That's why there's two of us.
21:19
How worried should we be?
21:20
How worried should we be?
21:22
It used to be concerned.
21:23
Now, now it's worried.
21:25
How worried should we be?
21:27
Deanna, how worried should we be about bird
21:30
flu potentially becoming another pandemic?
21:33
By the way, they've got a great new
21:34
picture of the bird flu.
21:36
So just like we had coronavirus, we had
21:39
that spiky ball thing.
21:42
The spiky looking thing.
21:44
Spiky ball thing.
21:45
So this is, it looks like five.
21:48
So they've got four cells like circular cells
21:50
all stuck together with a fifth one off
21:53
to the side.
21:54
Just close enough.
21:55
Not quite there.
21:57
Oh, the one that is going to be
21:59
the one mutation away.
22:00
Yes.
22:01
Indicating that that's the one.
22:02
Yes, that's the one.
22:04
Well, I love the way you said 63
22:06
cases because I have no idea how many
22:08
cases there were.
22:09
And now this is cool.
22:10
Well, hold on.
22:10
What?
22:11
She's the expert.
22:13
No, no, no.
22:14
This is a setup because this is the
22:16
same script.
22:17
This is the script that's rolling out.
22:19
Why don't we know?
22:20
What do we need?
22:21
What do we need?
22:21
We need to, we need to.
22:23
Well, I love the way you said 63
22:24
cases because I have no idea how many
22:26
cases there were or are.
22:29
Because our number one principle in preventing pandemics
22:31
is detect.
22:33
And if you go to the CDC website,
22:34
you can see that they're monitoring more than
22:36
10,000 exposures, but they've only tested 530.
22:40
Oh, we need to test.
22:41
What does that mean?
22:42
That means we're not testing enough.
22:44
And we know from other viruses that a
22:46
lot of the spread can be asymptomatic.
22:48
So we're kind of have our head in
22:50
the sand about how to avoid Mary.
22:52
It's the same.
22:53
It's the same script spread.
22:54
This is from the zoonotic standpoint, from the
22:57
animal to human standpoint.
22:59
Now also remember, most of those cases described
23:02
to date happened in the spring and the
23:04
summer, not when we had H1N1 circulating right
23:10
now, when we're running the flu pandemic with
23:14
throughout the United States.
23:16
Did you know we have a flu pandemic?
23:19
She just said that.
23:20
She just said we have it.
23:21
We're running.
23:22
She said we're running the flu.
23:23
Like what is this?
23:25
What are you running?
23:27
Now she says we're running the flu pandemic.
23:30
That's what she said.
23:31
Yes, I don't like the sound of that.
23:34
Not when we had H1N1 circulating right now,
23:39
when we're running the flu pandemic with.
23:42
She even pauses like, what did I just
23:44
say?
23:45
I shouldn't be saying that.
23:46
I just gave it away.
23:47
We're running the flu pandemic right now when
23:50
we're running the flu pandemic with throughout the
23:53
throughout the United States.
23:54
So we have rising flu cases and now
23:57
we have still zoonotic events coming.
24:00
So now you've set up for potentially a
24:03
farm worker getting H5N1, also getting the current
24:07
flu strain and reassorting in that individual.
24:12
Reassorting.
24:12
It's reassorting inside of me.
24:15
To me, that's almost a bigger threat to
24:18
these mutations happening in individuals over time.
24:22
By the way, I'd like to give a
24:23
little tip for our producers out there who
24:25
are looking for some quick money.
24:28
Now is the exact moment.
24:30
You may even be a little bit on
24:31
the late side.
24:32
Get certified.
24:34
There's a whole portal.
24:35
I think CDC has a whole portal.
24:37
You as a commercial entity can get certified.
24:40
Our friends did this.
24:41
Yeah, this is the same script.
24:42
You're doing the other side of the script.
24:45
Yeah, which is the money making side.
24:49
Yeah, get certified as a testing entity.
24:51
And then you just buy up these tests
24:53
really cheap.
24:53
You can get them from Abbott because, of
24:55
course, they already exist.
24:57
Buy them up really cheap.
24:59
And then you can be on the list
25:01
and you can market to all these companies,
25:04
companies who have conferences, I mean, conferences in
25:08
general, annual shareholder meetings.
25:11
And it is a bonanza.
25:14
Remember, you're no agenda show.
25:16
When you say reassorting in that person, what
25:18
does that mean?
25:19
Okay, so the H5 virus, which doesn't adapt
25:23
too well to our upper respiratory track and
25:25
is preventing us from getting infected, but conspecting
25:28
cows and pigs and cats and dogs.
25:32
So our flu, which has the binding sites
25:36
for us, for our nasal passages.
25:39
Viruses are very specific.
25:41
And so they're very animal or human specific.
25:44
Now we have human flu circulating.
25:46
At the same time, we have the zoonotic
25:49
flu circulating.
25:50
And the zoonotic is for our viewers, again,
25:52
the animal flu.
25:53
So we have the animal flu.
25:56
Let's call it the animal flu.
25:57
And now we have human flu.
25:58
Animal flu.
25:59
Co-circulating.
26:00
And at any time, someone could get both.
26:05
But I don't know what she's saying here
26:08
over and over again is if so in
26:12
a human being, you could have the regular
26:14
flu and then the animal flu would combine
26:17
together.
26:18
And you breathe that out and you breathe
26:20
it to someone else.
26:21
And then they get.
26:24
You're right.
26:25
Keep going.
26:26
Well, then they would get the flu.
26:28
Then we'd have a mutation.
26:30
And then we're all going to die.
26:31
Yeah, exactly.
26:32
We're all going to die.
26:34
Co-circulating.
26:35
And at any time, someone could get both
26:38
of those unknowingly.
26:40
Particularly in California, where all the dairy workers
26:43
are getting exposed.
26:45
Flu is rising in the South and into
26:48
California.
26:48
So we should be monitoring carefully that dual
26:52
exposure.
26:53
Because if you get both of the flus
26:55
at the same time, the H5 flu, the
26:59
bird flu could get the genes from the
27:03
human flu and make it infectious to humans
27:06
in the same way that our current flu
27:08
is.
27:10
Okay.
27:11
So that makes sense.
27:12
Well, no.
27:13
She never says anything about raw milk.
27:15
Come on.
27:16
Oh, just patience.
27:17
Patience.
27:20
Now, good news for you.
27:22
Your favorite free item from the government should
27:24
be coming.
27:25
It could become infectious to humans even after,
27:28
even if it's not coexisting with the human
27:31
flu, right?
27:32
Well, if it mutates like it did in
27:34
this individual or in the case in Canada.
27:37
But that sometimes is a random, slower process.
27:40
Okay.
27:41
But if you have that co-infection, then
27:43
you can share genes.
27:45
Okay.
27:45
And that's a really, to me, the spring
27:48
and the summer where we had all of
27:50
the dairy cattle to farm worker exposure, we
27:53
didn't have human flu circulating.
27:55
So now we're entering a much more dangerous
27:58
period, yet we're still not testing.
28:01
And we should be providing tests free of
28:04
charge to dairy farm workers so they can
28:06
test anonymously weekly because they'll want to know
28:10
if they have both cases of potential flus
28:12
co-circulating in their own body to protect
28:15
their families.
28:16
People are very smart.
28:17
I find the American public to be incredibly
28:19
smart.
28:20
If you tell them the risk and you
28:22
give them the tools, they will utilize them
28:25
to protect themselves and their family.
28:27
Sure, they will.
28:28
This, by the way, was like 20 minutes
28:30
she was on.
28:31
They're not horsing around.
28:33
Look, you have bird flu.
28:35
Now let's bring in some more scientific terms.
28:37
You don't think this country has learned from
28:39
the COVID pandemic?
28:41
All right.
28:41
And there's not a sense of urgency right
28:43
now.
28:43
Agencies are making the same mistakes they made
28:45
with COVID.
28:48
The principle, number two principle of pandemic is
28:52
detect.
28:53
And the only way to detect for viruses
28:55
is to test.
28:57
You cannot see a virus through symptoms.
28:59
You miss so many cases.
29:03
She said, well, she said the number two.
29:06
Yeah.
29:07
And then she goes, what was number one?
29:08
Did she ever say?
29:09
Yeah, detect was number one.
29:11
She said that in the first clip.
29:13
She said detect was number one.
29:15
What's number two?
29:17
What did she just say?
29:17
Number two was.
29:19
Detect.
29:19
Well, she's lying.
29:22
Or what did she say?
29:23
Number two is.
29:23
I'm sorry.
29:24
Back it up.
29:25
Okay.
29:25
Hold on a second.
29:27
The principle, number two principle of pandemic is
29:31
detect.
29:32
Yeah, that's interesting because she said earlier, she
29:34
said the number one is detect.
29:36
Well, number one is detect.
29:38
Number two is like marketing, marketing, marketing.
29:41
The three best things, the top three things
29:44
in sales is location, location, location.
29:47
And the only way to detect for viruses
29:49
is to test.
29:50
You cannot see a virus through symptoms.
29:52
You miss so many cases.
29:54
Yet we're still talking about flu-like illness.
29:57
Well, there is no flu-like illness.
29:59
There's RSV, respiratory syncytial virus.
30:02
It causes croup.
30:03
Parents know what that is.
30:05
There's mycoplasma pneumonia circulating right now.
30:08
There's flu circulating right now.
30:10
And soon there'll be COVID circulating.
30:12
Those are all coffee.
30:15
Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, stop.
30:19
My understanding is based on the same bull
30:22
crap that this woman's pushed out before.
30:25
Yes.
30:25
Is that COVID is a year round thing.
30:28
It was big in the summer, winter, fall.
30:30
It doesn't matter.
30:32
So why is all of a sudden COVID
30:34
becoming seasonal?
30:35
When did that happen?
30:37
I'm asking you.
30:38
You know, I know we both know we
30:40
follow this right from the beginning.
30:41
COVID was non-seasonal.
30:43
They made a big fuss about it being
30:45
non-seasonal.
30:46
Yes.
30:47
So when did it become seasonal?
30:49
Like she just said.
30:51
Well, I'm going to move us along here
30:54
just a little bit so I can get
30:55
to the reason behind all of this.
30:59
Well, I'm sorry, but I'm interrupting on these
31:01
things.
31:02
No, no, no.
31:02
She's full of crap.
31:03
Yes.
31:03
And we have to like stop it when
31:05
it because we can't let this get go
31:07
into the public domain as as as if
31:10
it's changed magically to a seasonal problem.
31:14
Well, this next clip will give us a
31:16
little bit of a clue as to why
31:19
she is doing this and why there are
31:20
others out there doing this.
31:22
And here it comes.
31:24
I want to turn to kind of looking
31:27
ahead to Trump's picks to lead the nation's
31:31
health agencies.
31:32
You know, some of them are controversial at
31:35
HHS.
31:36
You have vaccine skeptic RFK Jr. Also a
31:39
big advocate for raw milk at NIH.
31:43
By the way, the raw milk is relevant
31:44
to the discussions.
31:45
That's why I brought that up.
31:46
Wait, stop.
31:47
I'm sorry.
31:48
I think RFK Jr. When did Kennedy ever
31:51
even mentioned raw milk in any of his
31:53
discussions?
31:54
Have you noticed this?
31:56
I have never heard.
31:59
I listen to as much crap as you
32:01
have, or at least as much as much.
32:04
Yes, as much.
32:05
And I have listened to Kennedy for and
32:06
we both have actually.
32:08
Kennedy from day one years and years ago.
32:10
We've always been admired.
32:11
You know, you can barely hear him.
32:14
I don't remember him mentioning raw milk once
32:17
in his entire spiel.
32:20
How is he now suddenly an advocate?
32:23
Let me just do a quick thing.
32:24
Let me see if we don't have any
32:25
clips, then it didn't happen.
32:28
Nope.
32:29
We have nothing on RFK Jr. And raw
32:31
milk because that's it's not about bird flu.
32:35
It's about it's it's it's already clear what
32:38
this is about at NIH.
32:41
By the way, the raw milk is relevant
32:42
to the bird flu discussions.
32:43
That's why I brought that up at NIH.
32:45
A doctor who criticized covid lockdowns at FDA,
32:49
a doctor who said the government was the
32:51
quote greatest perpetrator of misinformation during covid.
32:56
Do people like this concern you about our
32:58
preparedness for another pandemic?
33:00
What's your take?
33:01
Are you are you starting to hear what
33:03
this is about?
33:03
Are you starting to understand what this is
33:05
really about?
33:06
This is not about bird flu.
33:07
This is about RFK Jr. This is a
33:11
hit job.
33:11
And who shows up on CBS Face the
33:13
Nation?
33:14
Our other prop pandemic propaganda princess, Lena, when
33:19
something called reassortment, where things change because of
33:22
one illness becoming another illness through reassortment of
33:27
a mutated same script.
33:30
Reassortment.
33:31
I've never heard of reassortment.
33:34
This is never heard of this in my
33:35
life.
33:36
Brand new brand new combined age of way
33:39
over 100.
33:40
And it's like we do not have these
33:42
things in the background.
33:43
It's like RSV over a way over a
33:47
standby.
33:47
Lena, when will unpack virus?
33:49
That's right.
33:50
So the viruses could exchange genes.
33:52
You could develop a new hybrid virus.
33:54
And if you have a virus that's more
33:56
contagious and causes more severe disease, that's when
34:00
it becomes a major threat to humankind.
34:02
What should be happening in the Biden administration
34:04
right now that isn't going on?
34:06
Yeah, there are two main things that they
34:07
should be doing in the days that they
34:09
have left.
34:10
The first is to get testing out there.
34:12
I feel like we should have learned our
34:13
lesson from covid that just because we aren't
34:15
testing, it doesn't mean that the virus isn't
34:18
there.
34:18
It just means that we should be having
34:21
rapid tests, home tests available to all farmworkers,
34:24
same script, their families for the clinicians taking
34:27
care of them.
34:28
By the way, Lena, when also no longer
34:29
in government service, these people don't work for
34:32
the government anymore.
34:33
She is now, in fact, a contributor to
34:36
CNN.
34:36
And in this case, CBS face the nation
34:39
so that we aren't waiting for public labs
34:42
and CDC labs to tell us what's bird
34:44
flu or not.
34:45
And the second very important thing is this
34:47
is not like the beginning of covid where
34:48
we were dealing with a new virus.
34:50
We didn't have a vaccine.
34:52
There actually is a vaccine developed already against
34:54
H5N1.
34:55
The Biden administration has contracted with manufacturers to
34:58
make almost five million doses of the vaccine.
35:02
However, they have not asked the FDA to
35:04
authorize the vaccine.
35:05
There's research done on it.
35:07
They could get this authorized now and also
35:09
get the vaccine out.
35:10
So and to farmworkers and to vulnerable people.
35:13
I think that's the right approach because we
35:15
don't know what the Trump administration is going
35:17
to be doing around bird flu.
35:18
If they have people coming in with anti
35:20
vaccine stances, could they hold up vaccine authorization
35:23
if they don't want to know how much
35:26
bird flu is out there?
35:28
Could they withhold testing?
35:29
I mean, that's a possibility.
35:31
And I think the Biden administration in the
35:33
remaining days should get testing and vaccines widely
35:36
available so that at least it empowers state
35:39
and local health officials and clinicians to do
35:42
the right thing for their patients.
35:43
This has been the whole thing all along.
35:47
This is it.
35:48
It's about RFK Jr. Mainly.
35:50
But there are others.
35:51
Here's MSNBC.
35:53
We don't have enough to worry about during
35:55
this cold flu covid season.
35:57
Cold flu covid.
35:57
We're in news about bird flu.
35:59
CDC says the virus now shows new mutations
36:03
that may make it easier for the infection
36:05
to be spread from person to person.
36:07
And that increases the risk of a wider
36:09
outbreak of bird flu.
36:11
Or even potentially a pandemic.
36:14
The concerns over bird flu are rising just
36:17
as we are on the verge of Senate
36:18
confirmation hearings for Robert F.
36:20
Kennedy Jr. as secretary of Health and Human
36:22
Services, which could begin in the first or
36:25
second week of January.
36:27
It's coming up.
36:27
Kennedy's anti vaccine stances are well known and
36:30
deeply troubling for someone who would run the
36:32
federal agency responsible for protecting the health and
36:35
well-being of all people living in the
36:38
United States.
36:39
But it's not just Kennedy who was a
36:41
concern.
36:42
It's the people he would bring on board
36:43
with him, like a raw milk producer in
36:46
California whose products have been recalled due to
36:49
bird flu contamination.
36:50
This guy says Kennedy's team has asked him
36:53
to lead the nation's policy on raw milk.
36:56
This is a bogus, bogative, complete bull crap
37:01
set up for the confirmation hearing, which will
37:07
be filled with bird flu nonsense.
37:09
Are you an anti-vaxxer?
37:11
If we have vaccines ready to go, are
37:14
you going to stop the vaccine?
37:15
Are you going to stop testing?
37:16
Are you going to kill Americans?
37:18
It's a 50% death rate.
37:21
That's what this is about.
37:23
And I take us back to one of
37:25
your clips from episode 1725, McCullough talking about
37:29
the vaccines that are good to go.
37:32
You know what they were doing, Dave?
37:32
They were doing experiments in Mallard ducks, migratory
37:36
waterfowl.
37:37
What a mistake.
37:38
One of those guys gets out.
37:40
They fly everywhere.
37:41
You know, the media has not been asking
37:43
the question, why did it spread from Texas
37:45
to Iowa to Michigan?
37:49
How did this happen?
37:50
They didn't ask the question.
37:51
They just think it's spontaneously arising.
37:53
No, it's being spread by the ducks that
37:56
are flying all over.
37:57
The ducks!
37:58
Wow.
37:59
And do we have any recourse to be
38:01
able to stop this or sue this lab
38:03
for spreading a migratory bird with a novel
38:07
disease?
38:08
All these experts are saying we have to
38:10
get ahead of nature.
38:11
That's what Disease X researchers said.
38:13
We have to get ahead of nature.
38:14
We have to make it invade humankind and
38:17
then come up with vaccines.
38:19
So Disease X vaccines, the Coalition for Epidemic
38:23
Preparedness and Innovation, that's that global center founded
38:27
by Gates Foundation, World Economic Forum.
38:29
They have an entire over 100-page white
38:31
paper on Disease X.
38:33
They said the whole reason to study Disease
38:34
X is to have a Disease X vaccine.
38:37
Sure enough, with bird flu, CSL Sequarius, a
38:41
biotech company, has the Auden's vaccine.
38:44
It was FDA-licensed in 2021 with no
38:49
human data, ready to go for bird flu.
38:52
They developed it with BARDA, a research unit
38:55
of the military, 2021.
38:57
And now the U.S. has purchased enough
39:01
doses for millions of administrations.
39:03
Why would the U.S. military be developing
39:06
a bird flu vaccine?
39:08
For warp speed, too.
39:10
I'm telling you.
39:11
You know how there were these reports about
39:13
a week ago that Biden interrupted his holiday,
39:18
came back to the White House, and Vice
39:21
President Harris came back to the White House,
39:24
and, oh, what's going on?
39:26
They're setting it up.
39:27
They're setting it up for, I don't know
39:29
if they're going to get it, to do
39:31
a warp speed, get the vaccine out there.
39:33
They have it.
39:34
They have a vaccine.
39:35
It's clearly going to be...
39:36
Yes, that's the vaccine they were talking about
39:38
in both those clips.
39:39
Yes, it's clearly mRNA-based.
39:42
I'm sure of that.
39:43
I don't know about that.
39:45
Why not?
39:47
Well...
39:47
Why not?
39:48
I think it's because it predates mRNA.
39:53
2021?
39:55
Well, no, it predates the popularity, which came
39:57
later.
39:58
It's hard to say.
39:59
Well, it's almost irrelevant.
40:01
Whatever it is, it's crap.
40:02
This is all about Kennedy.
40:04
It's all about discrediting him in the midst
40:07
of a possible...
40:08
We're one mutation away from a new pandemic.
40:12
How dare you, sir?
40:13
How very dare you be an anti-vax?
40:16
How dare you want to slow down vaccines?
40:20
Big Pharma is smart.
40:22
And look at the people they got.
40:24
Oh, here's the meeting.
40:26
All right, we gotta get this Kennedy guy's
40:28
a problem.
40:30
You know, let's get Burks and Wynn.
40:32
Yeah, people remember them.
40:34
When they come on, it's like, oh, yeah,
40:35
well, she told us she was right.
40:40
This is what's going on.
40:44
I can't see it any other way.
40:46
Well, this doesn't help Kennedy's cause.
40:50
This is Kennedy's.
40:51
This is a Kennedy clip on the Amish.
40:53
Oh, hold on a second.
40:54
Kennedy.
40:57
Yes, got it.
40:58
There was a researcher, a writer named Dan
41:01
Olmsted, and he was very curious about unvaccinated
41:05
populations.
41:06
And the Amish are one of those populations.
41:09
So he went and he did a study
41:12
of the Amish in Lancaster, Pennsylvania, Lancaster County,
41:16
Pennsylvania.
41:17
And there should have been, I think, about
41:19
if it was following the national trends, there
41:24
should have been about 2000 autism cases.
41:28
And they were able to find three.
41:32
And all of them were children who had
41:36
been adopted by the Amish after receiving their
41:39
vaccines.
41:41
So of the of the Amish in general,
41:44
they could not find any.
41:47
And this is true in other places around
41:49
the world.
41:50
There's a you know, there's a link between
41:52
that.
41:52
And I do not believe that autism is
41:55
just caused by vaccines.
41:56
I think there's very strong evidence that that
41:59
it is one of the major causative factors.
42:02
But all of these diseases are linked.
42:04
They all operate along the same biological pathways.
42:09
And they're caused by a stress to our
42:11
mitochondria.
42:12
And we're stressing the mitochondria through many, many
42:15
factors.
42:16
So the air we breathe mainly through the
42:19
foods we eat, but also some of the
42:21
medications that our kids taking are contributed to
42:23
it.
42:24
Yeah.
42:25
So they added in the meeting, they added
42:28
another kicker because, you know, like so these
42:33
people, you know, they may not believe it.
42:35
They're they're not going to fall.
42:37
They're going to say we're not falling for
42:39
this nonsense.
42:39
Again, those idiot podcasters, Curry Dvorak will probably
42:43
be telling their audience of hundreds of thousands.
42:48
And I know what we'll do.
42:50
Hey, yeah, yeah, yeah.
42:51
Let's let's scare the people with something they
42:53
really care about, which is not humans.
42:56
Cat food brand is issuing a recall after
42:58
at least one cat contracted bird flu and
43:01
died.
43:02
Northwest Naturals is recalling their two pound raw
43:04
and frozen feline turkey cat food.
43:07
Infected batches have best if used by dates
43:10
of May 21st, 2026 and June 23rd, 2026.
43:14
If your pet ate the recalled food and
43:17
starts displaying any symptoms, contact your vet immediately.
43:23
You need help seeking behavior for your pet.
43:26
Yeah, this is this is what we would
43:29
have done.
43:30
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
43:31
Tell me it's probably not a bad approach.
43:34
Tell them it'll kill the cat.
43:35
We did have one of our raw milk
43:37
guys right in.
43:39
We should mention.
43:40
Yes, I have his note.
43:41
Yeah, I want you.
43:42
That's a good note.
43:43
You want to read it?
43:44
Yeah, sure.
43:44
I don't have the fun.
43:46
OK, our farmer here in Pennsylvania is forced
43:50
to label certain raw dairy products as only
43:53
suitable for cats and dogs due to government
43:56
regulations.
43:57
It's how the small farms are able to
44:00
skirt the idiotic raw dairy regulations.
44:05
And then he has an email below.
44:07
But so I didn't know this, that if
44:10
you get raw dairy products from farmers, they're
44:14
often labeled as food for your cat and
44:17
your dog so they can get around the
44:20
regulations.
44:23
What is actually not a regulation is a
44:25
prohibition in those cases, the regulations that allow
44:30
for raw milk in the states that allow
44:31
raw milk.
44:32
Some states just say, no, it's illegal.
44:34
You can't you can't sell it.
44:35
Yeah.
44:35
But the states that do so, they have
44:37
a lot of regulations and they they're super
44:39
inspected.
44:39
Their milk is much cleaner than normal milk.
44:42
And it's a good product that we have
44:44
that in California.
44:45
We have Washington state has these these abilities.
44:48
You can do that.
44:49
Yeah.
44:49
And but he makes him.
44:52
This is why another mentioning the cats getting
44:55
sick and the dogs getting sick because it
44:57
could be the raw milk in there.
44:59
This is just the whole thing is I
45:01
don't understand what they're to this day, even
45:04
though you've tried to explain it or you
45:06
think you have some ideas about it.
45:09
Why is there such a prohibition on raw
45:11
milk?
45:13
It seems to me that the I've talked
45:16
about this on the show before.
45:17
The reason we don't have your radiated food,
45:19
if you want to really get good at,
45:22
you know, let me let me tell you
45:23
something about the milk lobby.
45:25
Let me tell you about how powerful these
45:27
guys are.
45:28
In nineteen eighty five.
45:31
Now, this is not the American milk lobby,
45:33
but I'm sure it's the same everywhere.
45:35
I was working in the Netherlands and it
45:39
was very difficult.
45:40
The commercials on television, you know, we were
45:44
we were being broadcast in public.
45:45
This was Countdown, the music television show when
45:48
I first started, when I was 19.
45:49
So now I'm 20 years old, 21, 85.
45:55
And you can't just put native ads in
45:58
stuff.
45:59
But we were produced by an independent producer.
46:01
So there were ways kind of around it.
46:05
And they so they made a deal with
46:08
the milk lobby, and the deal was that
46:11
I would drink from a glass of milk
46:14
during every single interview.
46:16
So if you go back and you look,
46:18
I'm literally interviewing Mick Jagger.
46:20
He's sitting there with a with a beer
46:22
and I'm with a glass of milk.
46:24
I'll ask a question.
46:25
He starts answering.
46:26
Then you see me drinking a glass of
46:28
milk.
46:29
There was so much money which they couldn't
46:31
they couldn't pay me for it.
46:33
So I said they gave me a car.
46:36
The milk lobby is very powerful.
46:40
So it's in their best interest to get
46:42
rid of raw milk.
46:44
But what's wrong with raw milk?
46:46
It would be part of the same lobby.
46:48
No, that's milk.
46:49
They don't want you getting a direct from
46:52
the cow.
46:54
You have to go through their packaging, their
46:56
system, their sales channel.
46:58
They can do the same.
47:00
I don't see any difference.
47:01
The only difference is that one stage is
47:04
eliminated.
47:05
Actually, two stages are eliminated.
47:07
It's more highly regulated.
47:10
And the stage of pasteurization is missing.
47:16
But it's still milk.
47:17
It's still packaged.
47:17
It goes into a carton or it goes
47:19
into a bottle.
47:20
I mean, I don't see why they wouldn't
47:21
be making money off of this of them.
47:23
And you maybe have to join the milk
47:25
lobby.
47:25
I don't know.
47:26
It just doesn't make sense to me.
47:27
Do you remember all the celebrities got milk?
47:30
Yeah.
47:31
What's that got to do with raw milk?
47:33
They could be doing the same thing with
47:34
raw milk.
47:35
Because you don't go into the store and
47:37
buy raw milk.
47:38
Do you get raw milk from the store?
47:40
Yeah, of course you do.
47:42
We don't get it from the store.
47:43
I get it from the store.
47:44
I can get it from Monterey Foods.
47:46
I can get it from Andronicos.
47:47
Up north, the Sunny Farms store sells the
47:51
raw milk that you can also go buy
47:54
at the store.
47:55
Where do they get it from?
47:56
I'm sorry.
47:57
We'll just have a disagreement on this.
47:59
But to me, it seems like the milk
48:01
system includes pasteurizing, doing their whole bit, packaging
48:07
it, putting all their flashy things on.
48:09
It's a whole business.
48:11
They're not in the raw milk business.
48:12
There's some.
48:14
But I think most of them.
48:16
One's pasteurizing.
48:17
One's not.
48:18
Yes.
48:18
I think you're wrong.
48:19
Well.
48:21
Someone will buy it at the store.
48:24
Yeah, but it's small producers.
48:26
It's not big milk.
48:29
I mean, it's not big milk.
48:31
That's for sure.
48:31
OK, it's the same.
48:32
If you're just going to go with everything,
48:35
big farm, a big milk, you can't have
48:36
any small farms that are trying to shut
48:38
the small farms down.
48:40
And they're trying to run them out of
48:41
business like they're doing in England and Netherlands
48:43
and here to some extent.
48:45
OK, if you're going to go with that,
48:47
that argument, I can't argue against that.
48:50
That's what I'm saying.
48:51
The same for beef.
48:52
They do not want me getting my beef
48:54
directly from the rancher.
48:56
Now, in Texas, we have specific laws.
48:59
The government, the beef lobby and the government,
49:02
they, the beef lobby and the government desperately
49:05
want to stop me from getting my beef
49:08
directly from the rancher.
49:09
In Texas, we have very specific laws where
49:12
we can't do that.
49:12
But they are trying to stop that everywhere.
49:15
They, the beef industry being Cargill and what's
49:19
it?
49:20
Big Al's, what's their name?
49:22
Big Al's, Al Capone.
49:24
Big Al's.
49:26
You know, the guys who bring all the
49:27
beef up from South America, the cheap stuff.
49:32
Argentina, exactly.
49:34
Who knows?
49:34
Do you think your milk is coming from
49:36
an American cow?
49:37
Who knows where it's coming from?
49:40
So, yeah, it's crap.
49:42
It's probably no good.
49:45
That would be the main reason why you
49:46
want raw milk is because you know where
49:48
it's coming from.
49:49
I don't think they want you to know
49:51
where your milk is coming from.
49:52
Well, I will say this.
49:53
When I was a kid.
49:54
There we go.
49:57
We used to have a number of independent
50:00
dairies that were around the area.
50:03
You could actually go get in your car
50:06
and drive to a local dairy and it
50:10
was a drive-through.
50:11
Yeah, sure.
50:12
Like a McDonald's.
50:13
You go in, you drive into the thing,
50:14
you say, I'd like to get a couple
50:15
of quarts of this and they actually have
50:18
buttermilk in these places too.
50:20
And you would get a bunch of milk
50:22
and they go off.
50:23
And we had dozens of these places.
50:28
They were all independent little farms that had
50:30
their own outlets.
50:31
Yes, of course.
50:32
That's the way it was good back in
50:35
the day.
50:35
Everything was much better when you were a
50:37
kid, even when I was a kid.
50:39
These days, it's a big, big system.
50:43
And they don't want you interrupting their system.
50:46
They.
50:48
I'm saying they, the they, the milk lobby.
50:52
They don't want you being smart and getting
50:55
your milk from a good provider.
50:58
They don't want you knowing that.
50:59
No.
51:01
So, yes.
51:01
I'm not going to, that argument's a little
51:03
better than the other one.
51:04
That's the same argument.
51:05
I thought I was making the same argument.
51:07
No, I'm not seeing it.
51:09
Okay.
51:09
Well, this is my argument now then.
51:11
That is, this is not in their interest.
51:15
Their, their interest.
51:17
They, so in other words, here, here's what
51:19
you're saying.
51:20
Some little, like you're doing with your buying
51:22
beef from that, that Texas guy.
51:24
K and C.
51:25
Yeah.
51:26
Yeah.
51:26
So because you are buying beef from some
51:31
small provider and this guy's eking out a
51:34
living or making good money, who knows?
51:36
You don't know.
51:37
But let's say he's making good money even.
51:39
But he's got his, but he's a small
51:41
guy.
51:41
So he, you know, has X number ahead
51:43
of cattle, which is one, one hundredth of
51:45
what a big boy would have.
51:47
And this is a big threat to them.
51:50
Oh my God.
51:51
This guy is going to buy a quart
51:53
of raw milk.
51:54
What are we going to do?
51:54
This is going to ruin our business.
51:57
This is part of what I don't get.
51:59
Oh, okay.
52:00
Well, allow me to explain.
52:01
It's called the internet.
52:03
And so we started buying from K and
52:05
C cattle, even in our own community.
52:07
Now, when we order 10 families order at
52:10
the same time, they drive it up here.
52:13
They don't charge us anything for shipping.
52:14
It shows up here.
52:15
It's, it's, it's an excellent product.
52:18
If those 10 families tell 10 other families,
52:21
if this spreads out, they are, they are
52:24
very cautious about anybody getting a clue, particularly
52:29
milk.
52:29
The difference between milk that you buy in
52:32
the supermarket and raw milk is significant.
52:35
I mean, you'd taste raw milk.
52:38
You're like, this is a dynamite product.
52:41
True or not.
52:43
It's like, it's like eggnog.
52:45
That's so good.
52:47
So yes, they protect, they protect their business
52:50
and they've been doing this for quite a
52:52
while.
52:53
And so just be quiet, little farmer.
52:56
No, they don't want any of that.
52:57
They don't want any of that.
52:59
Yeah.
53:00
It's the same.
53:01
Why did, why did Google, the big and
53:04
powerful and mighty Google, why did they kill
53:06
RSS reader?
53:08
Because they didn't want people using it.
53:11
Use our social media, which of course failed.
53:15
What was that again?
53:16
Google plus with the circles, with the circles,
53:20
with the circles.
53:21
Google something that was bad.
53:23
They ended it.
53:24
They took it out of the browsers.
53:26
You can't get RSS in the browsers anymore.
53:28
No.
53:29
In fact, we don't want you using a
53:31
browser.
53:31
We're going to obfuscate that you're using a
53:33
browser.
53:34
It's search.
53:36
Look, I don't know if you've looked at
53:37
an iPhone recently, but when you open up
53:41
Safari, it makes it look like it's a
53:43
search, a search product.
53:45
And I tell people, you know, go to
53:47
curry.com.
53:48
They'll type in curry.dot.com.
53:51
And then it brings up a search.
53:53
And the competing products, DuckDuckGo, exactly the same.
53:57
They don't see that as a browser anymore.
53:59
They don't want you using browsers.
54:01
They don't want it for this, for the
54:04
very reason.
54:05
They want you using apps, apps.
54:09
Yeah, I think.
54:11
And so this is more about knowledge and
54:13
people sharing this knowledge on Reddit or God
54:17
forbid, God forbid, TikTok.
54:20
Yeah, no, this is a pure, purely a
54:24
defensive move.
54:25
And they will continue to do that.
54:26
What else do they have?
54:27
If you're sitting on top of the stack,
54:29
you're big milk.
54:30
I got nothing to worry about.
54:33
You know, why, why even advertise?
54:39
No, you're the milk guy.
54:41
I think there's lots of reasons why they
54:43
don't want this.
54:45
This just don't get hip to it.
54:50
And I think.
54:51
All right, you may continue with your clips.
54:52
Well, I think I'm done.
54:54
I mean, I have more clips, but it's
54:56
all kind of the same thing.
54:57
I think we figured it out.
55:00
The whole idea here is to discredit Trump's
55:06
medical nominees, in particular, RFK Jr. And with
55:12
the confirmation hearings coming up before the inauguration,
55:17
that's the way I understood it.
55:19
And I think it is happening in the
55:21
next few weeks.
55:22
It'll be before January 20th.
55:24
This is, you know, they will try to
55:26
do anything that they they probably in cahoots
55:30
with the Biden administration, whatever's left of it,
55:32
whoever is running it, who are all going
55:35
to go into the big milk lobby after
55:36
they get kicked out of the White House.
55:38
They're going to do whatever they can to
55:40
scare everybody.
55:42
It's a good time.
55:42
You will get a lot of people are
55:43
going to get kicked out.
55:44
But this is a good time to identify
55:46
the bad actors in the of the appointees
55:49
or the ones No, the appointees, you have
55:52
to put up with that, whatever you think.
55:54
But the bad actors in Congress.
55:57
Yes.
55:58
Yeah.
56:01
That'll be the ones when we hear the
56:03
questioning, we'll know exactly who they are.
56:05
You'll know exactly where they're coming from when
56:07
Kennedy will be the lightning rod.
56:09
Yeah.
56:09
Yeah.
56:10
And he'll probably go first.
56:11
I would say that's the one they're going
56:13
to do first.
56:14
Well, he'll get in.
56:16
Well, I think Secretary of State's a little
56:18
more important.
56:19
They're probably going to do those first.
56:21
Kennedy is probably down the line.
56:23
They don't want to make it too obvious
56:24
what they're up to.
56:26
No one ever gave them credit for being
56:28
smart or obtuse.
56:30
I don't think so.
56:31
I think they'll well, we'll see.
56:33
But I don't know what the actual schedule
56:34
is.
56:35
The irony to this whole thing with Kennedy
56:37
is that it's the left who have always
56:41
been the skeptics.
56:43
I mean, traditionally, until the Obama machine came
56:45
around.
56:46
But traditionally, the left has always been the
56:49
health food nuts and all the types of
56:51
people that were skeptical about this, that, and
56:53
the other thing.
56:54
And they're the ones who would be in
56:56
support of Kennedy, curiously, which are the Democrats.
57:00
And so they're between a rock and a
57:02
hard place in terms of the philosophy of
57:05
life, basically, with Kennedy.
57:08
And they're going to have to deal with
57:10
their constituents on this.
57:13
Kennedy is not just a pick of Trump
57:15
and the Republicans that want to see some
57:18
changes made.
57:19
He's also a hero of a large contingent
57:23
of the left.
57:26
Yes.
57:28
This is a rough go for them.
57:31
Can you explain recess appointments?
57:35
Yeah.
57:36
How does that happen?
57:37
And what period does that take place?
57:39
They're trying to shoehorn Kennedy in quick before
57:42
that's even a possibility.
57:44
Well, they can't shoot him in until he's
57:45
president.
57:46
Recess appointments, you can dissolve in a kind
57:51
of an emergency way.
57:53
You can close the Senate and make him
57:57
go on vacation for, I think, there's a
58:00
minimum period involved, like a week or something
58:03
like that.
58:03
And in that timeframe, based on some recess
58:08
appointments that other people have done in the
58:09
past, you can just appoint members to the
58:12
Cabinet because there's nobody to vote against them.
58:16
Right.
58:17
It's a tricky maneuver that Trump has threatened
58:21
to do.
58:23
And there's a counteraction to it that I'm
58:26
not familiar with.
58:27
I don't know the details of how it
58:29
works, but there's a counter move that can
58:31
be done if the Senate is really adamant
58:36
about it.
58:36
But they'd have to be controlled by the
58:38
Democrats to pull that off.
58:41
Well, and so that would make even more
58:42
sense to do it before Trump is even
58:44
in and can do a recess appointment, at
58:46
least to get the conversation going.
58:48
You can't appoint anybody until he's in.
58:49
No, but you can do the confirmation hearings.
58:51
You can start them now.
58:53
I don't think so.
58:56
I'm looking for a start date.
58:58
I haven't been able to find anything.
58:59
I think it all begins on the 20th.
59:04
Because he's up on the Hill now drumming
59:07
up support.
59:08
Yes, that's what you do in advance of
59:10
the hearings.
59:11
Yes.
59:11
Yeah.
59:12
Yeah.
59:12
You go from...
59:13
He probably has Fetterman in his camp.
59:17
That's the one Democrat.
59:18
And he's probably lost about...
59:20
He probably lost the super rhinos, Collins, Murkowski
59:26
in Alaska.
59:27
Confirmation hearings for Trump's cabinet nominees are expected
59:31
to begin during the 119th Congress, which starts
59:34
on January 3rd.
59:37
Okay.
59:38
The Congress starts earlier.
59:39
Okay.
59:40
Okay.
59:40
That's good to know.
59:42
So it can start and it will start.
59:45
Yeah, it will start because Trump wants to
59:47
hit the ground running on the 20th.
59:49
Yeah.
59:50
And so...
59:50
Okay.
59:50
So they will have these things.
59:51
The bad actors in the Republican Party, which
59:55
includes Susan Collins and Murkowski and...
1:00:00
There's a bunch of them.
1:00:00
Two or three dudes that are real assholes.
1:00:04
I can't remember their names.
1:00:05
But those dudes, they're no good.
1:00:09
And so he's gonna have to pressure them.
1:00:12
And I still think, and I've said this
1:00:13
before and I'll say it again, over and
1:00:15
over that Trump does have leverage over Big
1:00:19
Pharma, who's gonna be pushing hardest.
1:00:21
Against Kennedy, which is by executive order, he
1:00:26
can end TV advertising.
1:00:29
Yeah.
1:00:30
And if he does that...
1:00:32
That will stop the help-seeking behavior.
1:00:35
That will...
1:00:36
We can't have that.
1:00:38
That will damage the pharma, Big Pharma, and
1:00:41
it will damage the media.
1:00:44
Okay.
1:00:46
Then, anyway, I'll close this topic unless you
1:00:51
have anything else by saying, this is bullcrap.
1:00:55
This is about discrediting Kennedy and others in
1:00:58
advance.
1:00:59
And maybe drumming up a little more pandemic
1:01:02
fear, especially that it can now get to
1:01:05
your pets.
1:01:05
Because that's what people care about.
1:01:06
That's how Trump won.
1:01:08
That's how Trump won the election.
1:01:09
They're eating the dogs.
1:01:11
They're eating the dogs.
1:01:13
Everybody knows that that is now, that's the
1:01:17
way to go.
1:01:17
They're eating the dogs.
1:01:19
That's what you need.
1:01:20
You need to focus the American people on
1:01:23
their pets and you win.
1:01:26
Now, the next thing, which I don't know
1:01:29
if you have any clips on this, but
1:01:30
I'll play the intro, is what's really been
1:01:34
heating up.
1:01:35
This is the MAGA Civil War.
1:01:37
Not the world is at war with itself,
1:01:40
thanks to a breaking point between multi-millionaire
1:01:42
tech bros and Donald Trump's anti-immigrant loyalists.
1:01:45
This week, Trump's pick for senior policy advisor
1:01:48
on AI, an Indian-American venture capitalist, was
1:01:51
hit with racist backlash.
1:01:54
Then MAGA loyalists erupted even more after Doge
1:01:57
co-chair Vivek Ramaswamy defended foreign-born workers
1:02:00
in tech by blaming American culture for prioritizing
1:02:03
bronze over brains.
1:02:05
In summary, Axios explains, quote, the fight exposes
1:02:09
one of the MAGA movement's deepest contradictions.
1:02:11
It came to prominence chiefly via the white,
1:02:14
less-educated working class, but is now under
1:02:17
the full control of billionaire technologists and industrialists,
1:02:21
many of them immigrants.
1:02:23
Yes, many of them immigrants.
1:02:25
Now, this is being played in multiple ways
1:02:27
across the media, and I think there are
1:02:30
some...
1:02:31
We actually...
1:02:32
I have thoughts on this.
1:02:33
Yeah, we have.
1:02:34
Well, we've discussed this a lot in the
1:02:35
past.
1:02:37
Just for sake of color, I will play
1:02:41
the...
1:02:41
This was an intro to MSNBC segment.
1:02:46
They're so stupid.
1:02:47
They're playing this as a racial issue.
1:02:50
And speaking will be Simone Sanders.
1:02:55
She's the black woman who actually ran the
1:02:57
Bernie Sanders campaign.
1:02:58
She's on all the MSNBC morning shows.
1:03:01
She's kind of the yin to Joy Reed
1:03:03
Yang.
1:03:04
And the former RNC president...
1:03:09
What's the guy's name?
1:03:10
Michael...
1:03:10
The name Michael?
1:03:11
Michael Steele.
1:03:12
Michael Steele.
1:03:13
And they, for some unknown reason, decide to
1:03:17
go all black culture speak on this issue.
1:03:20
Honey, the girls are fighting.
1:03:23
The girls are fighting.
1:03:25
So let me get this straight.
1:03:26
So Vivek Varunaswamy, I mean, he just didn't
1:03:29
write a tweet.
1:03:30
He wrote a...
1:03:31
Screed.
1:03:31
It was a screed.
1:03:32
Screed.
1:03:33
I mean, it just went on.
1:03:35
And he laid out, basically, y'all white
1:03:38
folks out here should have been focused on
1:03:40
doing a little bit more Urkel than anything
1:03:44
else.
1:03:45
Less Stefan.
1:03:45
Less Stefan.
1:03:47
You know, and it's just...
1:03:49
Simone, I'm just...
1:03:50
I'm tickled.
1:03:52
I'm tickled by this.
1:03:53
Who would have saw this coming?
1:03:55
Well, I mean, definitely not the folks that
1:03:58
voted for Donald Trump and the American worker
1:04:00
and centering American workers.
1:04:01
Look, this is, you know, my mother told
1:04:04
me, it's just some business that don't involve
1:04:07
you.
1:04:07
You don't need to step in it.
1:04:08
So I've just been watching because this is
1:04:11
what happens.
1:04:12
To be very clear, Elon Musk and Vivek
1:04:14
Varunaswamy, weren't they foreign born workers?
1:04:18
Yeah, yeah, they got here on a visa.
1:04:21
Elon Musk say he here because of one
1:04:23
of them visas.
1:04:24
And now I believe he's an actual American
1:04:27
citizen.
1:04:28
But like, let's just be very clear.
1:04:29
There's nothing wrong with people who are not
1:04:33
from this country coming here, making a better
1:04:36
life, contributing to the American fabric.
1:04:39
OK, that's something I fundamentally believe in.
1:04:41
America is a land of the free, home
1:04:43
of the brave, all that good stuff that
1:04:44
Elon Musk was tweeting about.
1:04:45
However, please don't come for Americans.
1:04:49
And I just, I would like, let's be
1:04:50
very clear, I would like white Americans to
1:04:51
stand up.
1:04:52
This is your calling card, honey.
1:04:54
Where's your banner?
1:04:55
Because they coming for you.
1:04:56
They said y'all white and lazy.
1:04:58
That's crazy.
1:04:59
That's right.
1:05:00
That's crazy.
1:05:01
Two snaps, girl.
1:05:04
Idiotic.
1:05:05
So I'm glad you got that clip.
1:05:07
Kind of.
1:05:08
I wasn't going to get these clips.
1:05:10
There was a bunch of them.
1:05:10
They're all came from the left.
1:05:12
The other side of the argument, in other
1:05:15
words, the people that did support Trump.
1:05:18
Nobody has gotten upset about this or said
1:05:21
much about it.
1:05:22
It's all on MSNBC and CNN.
1:05:25
It's a complete creation trying to sow discord
1:05:30
between Ramaswamy and, you know, they've been trying
1:05:33
to bust up Musk and Trump.
1:05:35
And this is just another example of an
1:05:37
attempt to do so.
1:05:39
But it's, it's a, I wouldn't use the
1:05:42
word tempest in a teapot, but it's like
1:05:44
a ridiculous situation that these guys are trying
1:05:48
to exaggerate.
1:05:49
As a whitey myself, I would agree that,
1:05:54
yeah, more math tutors would be a good
1:05:57
idea.
1:05:57
We have some of the dumbest people in
1:05:59
the world, thanks to our Department of Education.
1:06:02
That's what they should be.
1:06:03
You could turn this back around on these
1:06:06
guys and say, well, this is the Department
1:06:07
of Education should be banished, should be banned,
1:06:10
should be kicked out, should be closed.
1:06:13
And nobody disagrees with any of this.
1:06:15
Yeah, Ramaswamy likes H1Bs.
1:06:19
And so does a lot of other people
1:06:21
in tech.
1:06:21
I mean, they've been using them for decades.
1:06:23
It's probably overused them.
1:06:25
But this is bull crap.
1:06:26
This is just bull crap.
1:06:28
This part of the story you're missing, and
1:06:30
this is what I pick up here in
1:06:32
the Hill Country.
1:06:33
The part of the story you're missing is
1:06:35
that the 100% MAGA people feel that
1:06:43
this is bull crap, that Vivek and Elon
1:06:47
are saying, hey, we don't need American tech
1:06:51
workers.
1:06:52
We want to have the cheap import tech
1:06:54
workers.
1:06:55
There is definitely a lot of pushback coming
1:06:58
from MAGA on that.
1:07:01
This is the whole Twitter blow up with
1:07:03
Laura Loomer.
1:07:04
There's noise about this.
1:07:07
This that you just said is absolutely fabrication
1:07:10
from the left.
1:07:11
But there is a real pushback.
1:07:13
And people are now yelling about Bannon, all
1:07:16
these kinds of people out there running around
1:07:18
saying Elon's no good.
1:07:19
Vivek is no good.
1:07:21
They want to replace American workers.
1:07:24
And there's some validity to that in the
1:07:27
tech sector.
1:07:28
Now, first of all, let's step back.
1:07:29
H1B visas, I think, probably were most prevalently
1:07:34
used in the past really for temporary hospitality
1:07:39
workers, temporary agricultural workers who would come in
1:07:44
harvest season, get out, take our dollars back
1:07:46
home and feed their families.
1:07:49
That's not true.
1:07:52
The H1B visa specifically says that you can't
1:07:56
even use it unless you have a minimum
1:07:57
salary of $60,000.
1:07:59
And all the people you described are all
1:08:01
under that.
1:08:02
It was used in tech big time.
1:08:05
In fact, there was a guy at the
1:08:06
University of California, Davis.
1:08:08
I can't remember his name.
1:08:10
I have spoken to him.
1:08:11
But when I was doing the Silicon Spin
1:08:13
show, this was a big issue in the
1:08:15
late 90s because they were loading up with
1:08:18
H1B guys, all the guys that all the
1:08:20
tech companies were.
1:08:21
But it's mostly semiconductor companies because they needed
1:08:24
these engineers that were coming out of India
1:08:27
Institute of Technology to come over.
1:08:31
In fact, AMD was almost all Indian guys.
1:08:34
And they were bringing them over by the
1:08:36
boatloads.
1:08:36
I think his name was Maitland, M-A
1:08:38
-I-T-L-A-N-D, out of
1:08:40
Davis, was bitching and moaning about this being
1:08:43
exploitative.
1:08:45
It is.
1:08:45
It is.
1:08:46
No, I agree.
1:08:47
It is.
1:08:47
I am not going to argue that point.
1:08:48
But this is nothing.
1:08:50
This is not a new thing.
1:08:51
No, it's not.
1:08:52
It's not a new thing.
1:08:53
And it wasn't done for hospitality workers.
1:08:56
You would use braceros for that sort of
1:08:58
thing.
1:09:00
I may be confused on that.
1:09:04
But the main reason that tech companies like
1:09:08
these people is they come in, they are
1:09:12
immediately slaves of the tech organization.
1:09:15
When they work cheaper.
1:09:16
They work cheap.
1:09:17
They'll live eight to an apartment.
1:09:19
They'll shut up because, oh, you're making a
1:09:21
problem?
1:09:22
Would you like me to withdraw your H1B?
1:09:24
Yeah, exactly.
1:09:24
This is all true.
1:09:25
But this was going on in the 90s.
1:09:27
Yes, I know.
1:09:28
So what's Vivek and Musk got to do
1:09:31
with it?
1:09:32
I'm just telling you, people don't know this.
1:09:35
People don't know about the H1B visa status.
1:09:39
They're getting spun up by the left.
1:09:40
No, they're getting spun up by the right.
1:09:45
But the initial push has been from the
1:09:48
left.
1:09:49
Irrelevant.
1:09:50
Yes, because the left has been teasing.
1:09:54
Elon's no good.
1:09:55
Elon's no good.
1:09:56
And it's now happening on the right.
1:09:58
People are saying, hold on a second.
1:09:59
What are you guys doing?
1:10:00
Why?
1:10:01
There's 130,000 tech jobs were cut in
1:10:04
2024.
1:10:06
130,000.
1:10:08
So there's people out there who are a
1:10:10
little irked about this.
1:10:12
And you understand the H1B process is you
1:10:16
have to make the job posting available.
1:10:20
And if an American citizen, or I would
1:10:23
say if you're a green card holder, if
1:10:26
they submit an application by law, the firm
1:10:30
has to interview them.
1:10:32
Now, they can talk to them for 15
1:10:33
minutes and say, you're no good.
1:10:35
This is why people send out 500 resumes
1:10:38
and they never hear anything.
1:10:39
The companies don't acknowledge they received their resume.
1:10:42
Apple and I think Google had paid millions
1:10:44
of dollars in fines for this in six,
1:10:47
seven years ago because they weren't following the
1:10:50
process.
1:10:51
And what these guys do is they fire.
1:10:53
The only place to get profit now is
1:10:55
your biggest cost center.
1:10:56
That's people.
1:10:57
And look at who's running them.
1:10:59
Who's running Google?
1:11:00
Brahman.
1:11:01
Who's running Microsoft?
1:11:02
Brahman.
1:11:03
I heard a lot from Mo who worked
1:11:05
in high tech and they hire Indians.
1:11:08
The Indians hire Indians.
1:11:10
They hire a class of, very classes.
1:11:13
They hire the class of Indians who they
1:11:14
can boss around, tell them to shut up.
1:11:16
They're also very racist.
1:11:19
And the whole tech industry is filled with
1:11:23
this type of worker.
1:11:26
And I think they're breaking the law by,
1:11:29
you know, you have to post it.
1:11:31
If you have a job in a company,
1:11:34
they have to make that job posting available
1:11:37
so that other people within the company can
1:11:39
see it.
1:11:40
So where does it go?
1:11:40
It goes in the break room on the
1:11:42
inside of the coffee cup cabinet.
1:11:46
They publish these jobs in paper newspapers.
1:11:50
I mean, it's obvious what they're doing.
1:11:52
And my stance, I'm perfectly fine with it.
1:11:57
Go ahead.
1:11:58
Fill up your company with your Indian slaves.
1:12:00
Why is there no Silicon Valley in India?
1:12:03
Because they don't have the one thing Americans
1:12:05
have, which is entrepreneurialism and insight and opportunity
1:12:11
and chutzpah.
1:12:13
And I think we're going to see these
1:12:16
companies stagnate with their slave army of little
1:12:19
bots who program the AI stuff, which is
1:12:22
probably why they need to cut costs in
1:12:24
the first place.
1:12:26
And I think we'll see an enormous boom
1:12:29
of innovation coming from former tech workers who
1:12:33
have been cut to be replaced by this
1:12:35
army of Indian slave workers.
1:12:39
And we may see some really amazing products
1:12:41
come out of this around and outside of
1:12:44
what Silicon Valley is.
1:12:45
And fill it up.
1:12:46
Put them all in California.
1:12:48
I'm fine with that.
1:12:49
I think it's a great idea.
1:12:51
People should look at it that way and
1:12:53
not like, oh, oh, Elon and Vivek, they're
1:12:56
trying to replace Americans.
1:12:58
It's a big deal on the right, John.
1:12:59
It really is.
1:13:02
Well, being in California, I could be missing
1:13:05
it.
1:13:06
Being in Texas, I'm hearing it.
1:13:08
I'm hearing it.
1:13:09
But what's funny, what the irony is, I'm
1:13:11
in Silicon Valley more or close enough.
1:13:14
And you're not.
1:13:16
And Fredericksburg, of all places in the world,
1:13:18
is about as far from a high tech
1:13:20
center that should be concerned about this stuff,
1:13:23
you know, as Iowa.
1:13:25
It just doesn't make any sense.
1:13:27
But OK.
1:13:27
Because it's ideological.
1:13:29
They're being spun up.
1:13:31
They're being spun up by the right, by
1:13:34
Laura Loomer.
1:13:35
They're being spun up by conservative.
1:13:37
Who's Laura Loomer?
1:13:38
What did she say?
1:13:39
Oh, you didn't see the whole fight that
1:13:41
she had with Elon and Vivek on Twitter?
1:13:45
I saw some of it.
1:13:46
Yeah.
1:13:46
And then Elon took away her blue check.
1:13:51
And oh, yes, I know that.
1:13:52
I saw that part of it.
1:13:53
OK.
1:13:54
And this is so.
1:13:55
But I don't know how that happened.
1:13:57
I don't know that Elon was actually personally
1:13:59
involved.
1:14:00
Yes, yes, yes.
1:14:01
They were going back and forth.
1:14:02
Yes.
1:14:04
She's a character because she's a noteworthy troublemaker.
1:14:10
I know.
1:14:11
But then conservative treehouse, Bannon, War Room, they're
1:14:15
all talking about now it has worked, successfully
1:14:18
worked.
1:14:19
The left demonizing Elon is working.
1:14:22
And I got to say, when Elon took
1:14:24
away her blue checkmark, even temporarily, that told
1:14:28
a lot of people something.
1:14:29
Oh, OK.
1:14:31
If it's about him, he will censor.
1:14:34
Well, that could be the argument that she
1:14:39
made in this back and forth, which I
1:14:41
didn't pay much attention to, but I obviously
1:14:43
paid some attention to.
1:14:45
She said that I had even paid.
1:14:48
She was a subscriber.
1:14:49
She had given money to Twitter to maintain
1:14:54
that checkmark, even though she was probably a
1:14:57
eligible to have it anyway, because if you
1:14:59
have a word, I forgot what the number
1:15:01
was.
1:15:01
So many followers, you get it.
1:15:03
I have one that way.
1:15:04
Yes.
1:15:05
And she she said that that was somewhat
1:15:10
annoying because it seems to me is that
1:15:11
if you bought the checkmark.
1:15:14
You bought the checkmark.
1:15:15
It's not like, you know, I paid money
1:15:18
for this.
1:15:18
Why are you taking it away?
1:15:19
She should ask for a full refund.
1:15:26
But OK, OK.
1:15:28
So this there's this little skirmish here.
1:15:31
You know, it's a it's it's it's on
1:15:34
an ideological scale.
1:15:36
MAGA right, which I do.
1:15:38
You don't live in MAGA, right?
1:15:40
I live in MAGA, right?
1:15:41
They are very upset about Elon and Vivek
1:15:44
replacing American workers with they're saying they are
1:15:48
saying, in fact, they have been infected.
1:15:50
I completely agree with you.
1:15:52
I'm just telling you it is a thing
1:15:54
and they and the right is now spinning
1:15:56
them up.
1:15:57
And there's been some distrust of Elon in
1:16:00
general.
1:16:01
You know, Bannon's out there yelling about he's
1:16:03
controlled by the CCP.
1:16:04
I mean, it's what?
1:16:07
Yes.
1:16:08
Yes.
1:16:08
Controlled by the CCP.
1:16:11
Yeah, because of his Tesla, his Tesla connections
1:16:15
in China.
1:16:16
Well, he's building a factory there because he
1:16:18
has to.
1:16:19
Yes.
1:16:20
So, you know, the thing is, if he's
1:16:22
here's the thing that bothers me about that
1:16:24
complaint is that we require and especially when
1:16:29
Trump comes in, if you want to sell
1:16:31
your Chinese car in the United States, you
1:16:36
have to build it here.
1:16:37
Yes, I understand.
1:16:38
So the Chinese I'm just saying would say
1:16:42
the same thing.
1:16:43
I don't understand the fact that this is
1:16:45
symmetrical, that it's a problem.
1:16:50
It's ideological.
1:16:52
It's not none.
1:16:53
When people are spun up, it is rarely
1:16:55
based on deep research and facts.
1:16:59
It is based on a media spin.
1:17:03
It is based on bombs being lobbied onto
1:17:06
large number networks like X.
1:17:11
So and then the constant push from the
1:17:14
liberal media saying the bromance will end.
1:17:18
I mean, the whole thing, you know, what's
1:17:21
your face?
1:17:21
Who's the Chile chick?
1:17:23
What's her name?
1:17:25
Oh, Webb?
1:17:26
Yes.
1:17:27
Whitney Webb.
1:17:28
She's out there all the time saying Elon,
1:17:31
the PayPal mafia, Peter Thiel.
1:17:35
I mean, it's out there, John.
1:17:37
It's out there.
1:17:38
There is a big push against these.
1:17:41
There's distrust.
1:17:42
Let's put it that way.
1:17:42
There's distrust.
1:17:44
And this was used by certain elements to
1:17:47
sow more distrust of particularly Elon.
1:17:50
Vivek Vivek is actually he's saying we need
1:17:52
to restructure or revisit the H1B system, which
1:17:56
is fair.
1:17:57
But he's getting lumped in.
1:17:59
Well, if Vivek said they're focusing on Vivek's
1:18:03
commentary on the Twitter thing, like you heard
1:18:05
with Steele and these other dupes over there
1:18:08
at MSNBC.
1:18:09
That's the left side.
1:18:10
The right side is the left is saying
1:18:13
stuff like, like, you know, off the wall
1:18:16
and there's a racist.
1:18:16
But if Vivek's commentary says that we should
1:18:19
have more math tutors for the white folk.
1:18:23
Right now.
1:18:24
But what is wrong with that message?
1:18:26
There's nothing wrong with that message.
1:18:28
I'm telling you that that's not what they're
1:18:30
talking about.
1:18:31
They're talking about Elon specifically.
1:18:34
Specifically.
1:18:35
Well, there's a they have to.
1:18:37
There is a concerted effort targeting Elon because
1:18:41
of this.
1:18:41
Yes.
1:18:42
Because of the fact that is now being
1:18:44
reexamined that his purchase of Twitter.
1:18:48
Yes.
1:18:48
Having been largely not largely, but at least
1:18:51
partly responsible for the reelection of Trump.
1:18:54
So therefore, there's some kind of and then
1:18:56
he's hanging out with this is again, anti
1:18:59
Trump.
1:18:59
Yes.
1:19:00
What do we do?
1:19:00
It's working to sabotage Trump.
1:19:03
Let's go after Elon.
1:19:05
There's one way of doing it.
1:19:06
That's what's happening.
1:19:07
It's exactly what's happening.
1:19:09
I'm just telling you that it's now happening
1:19:11
on the right.
1:19:13
And it's not just media, the dummies that
1:19:16
we always thought they were.
1:19:17
Here's CNBC with a somewhat more accurate report
1:19:20
with an interesting little twist.
1:19:22
Now, a fight is brewing tonight between two
1:19:24
factions of the MAGA movement, the transitions, let's
1:19:27
just call them tech bros.
1:19:28
And it's all and it's called immigration hardliners
1:19:30
on the other side over how the incoming
1:19:33
Trump administration should approach skilled foreign workers.
1:19:36
Now, two of those techies, Elon Musk and
1:19:38
Vivek Ramaswamy, posting on X advocating for welcoming
1:19:41
skilled labor based immigration, including the H1B visas
1:19:45
that tech consulting and other white collar industries
1:19:48
rely on to hire foreign employees.
1:19:50
Now, Musk argues it brings top talent right
1:19:52
here to the United States.
1:19:54
But that ignited a fight among MAGA supporters
1:19:57
who say the H1B visas take jobs away
1:20:00
from American citizens.
1:20:01
Former congressman and one time AG nominee Matt
1:20:04
Gaetz said of the tech bros, quote, we
1:20:06
did not ask them to engineer an immigration
1:20:09
policy.
1:20:09
Let's go to NBC's Aaron Gilchrist now.
1:20:11
Now, Aaron.
1:20:12
You hear that?
1:20:12
That's important.
1:20:13
That's Gaetz.
1:20:13
That's Gaetz saying that.
1:20:15
So this is happening on the right.
1:20:16
Let's start with this push by Musk and
1:20:18
Ramaswamy, because it's the tech sector that stands
1:20:20
to benefit big time from any increase in
1:20:23
H1Bs.
1:20:23
But what could if I can just add
1:20:25
the tech sector is universally hated by Americans.
1:20:29
We hate it.
1:20:30
We hate it.
1:20:30
We hate our phones.
1:20:32
We're tied to them.
1:20:33
But we hate our phones.
1:20:34
When you position this tech bros, everybody can
1:20:37
get on board with that.
1:20:38
Actually change.
1:20:39
Yes, I agree.
1:20:40
In terms of the policies over that program.
1:20:42
Right now, this is a program that allows
1:20:45
for about 85,000 of these types of
1:20:48
visas to be issued.
1:20:49
And these are visas that go to people
1:20:51
who typically go into jobs that require high
1:20:56
levels of technical skills.
1:20:57
Right.
1:20:58
And so that's why we think about Silicon
1:20:59
Valley and how these sorts of folks might
1:21:03
be fitting into what they do.
1:21:05
Now, you see on your screen here that
1:21:06
President Biden's administration just recently changed some of
1:21:11
the regulations as it relates to this program.
1:21:13
And the idea from the Department of Homeland
1:21:15
Security is that they're modernizing the program by
1:21:18
streamlining the application process for employers and for
1:21:21
applicants.
1:21:22
They're expanding the definition of specialty occupations and
1:21:26
also serves to clarify which nonprofits and governmental
1:21:29
research organizations qualify for this program.
1:21:33
Sort of the thumb in the eye to
1:21:35
the Trump administration is the fact that these
1:21:36
new regulations go into effect on January 17th.
1:21:40
So now this is one more thing, Brian,
1:21:42
that the Trump administration is going to have
1:21:43
to examine coming out of the current administration
1:21:46
and figure out how it fits into the
1:21:48
larger picture of the Trump immigration policies.
1:21:51
Little plot twist there with new regulations coming
1:21:54
in on January 17th.
1:21:56
There's a lot going on.
1:21:57
There's been sabotage going on constantly.
1:21:59
Yes.
1:22:00
Yeah.
1:22:01
So I'm no Elon fan.
1:22:05
I've been saying that for years.
1:22:09
And by the way, isn't AI supposed to
1:22:12
solve all this?
1:22:14
You're telling me that AI is now anonymous
1:22:17
Indian again?
1:22:19
Oh, you you wrote that and you've been
1:22:22
waiting to use it.
1:22:24
Anonymous Indian.
1:22:25
I've used it on the show before.
1:22:27
You just don't know.
1:22:27
You have.
1:22:28
Well, you got it back.
1:22:29
OK, you one of those deals.
1:22:30
Let's keep telling the joke over and over
1:22:32
until the work finally hears it.
1:22:36
Nice try.
1:22:39
Yeah.
1:22:42
So, no, I there's definitely a lot of
1:22:46
technology workers, 130,000 fired in 2024.
1:22:51
That's just one year as a lot of
1:22:53
people.
1:22:54
And they know they know that they're being
1:22:56
replaced by cheaper labor.
1:22:58
And that's always been.
1:22:59
Yeah.
1:22:59
But that's been the case of in the
1:23:02
valley forever.
1:23:03
You know, these guys, this bitch in Monday,
1:23:05
their productivity goes down when they get typical
1:23:09
like coders, for example.
1:23:11
You don't find any 45 year old coders.
1:23:15
They just don't exist because they can.
1:23:17
It's not that people can't code at 45
1:23:19
because they can and they can do great
1:23:21
code.
1:23:22
It's just they're not as productive.
1:23:24
And it's like the system is set up
1:23:27
to throw them, to kick them to the
1:23:29
curb.
1:23:29
It's just the way it is.
1:23:30
It's kind of ageist.
1:23:32
It's very ageist, but it's something I've noticed.
1:23:35
And I'm I was affected by it.
1:23:37
I know, you know, I know a lot
1:23:39
of very productive, very good 45 year old
1:23:42
coders.
1:23:43
Well, I don't know of any.
1:23:45
I mean, I know very good.
1:23:47
You can say very good, but very productive
1:23:49
and and cost effective.
1:23:51
No, none.
1:23:53
They want too much money.
1:23:55
Well, yes.
1:23:56
So.
1:23:57
All right.
1:23:57
So we're back.
1:23:57
They want to get paid more and more
1:23:59
and more as they get older and older.
1:24:00
And this is not the way it works.
1:24:02
Everything I was to remember with the with
1:24:04
the entire tech sector, it's in a constant
1:24:07
state of deflation.
1:24:09
The whole model is based on the fact
1:24:11
that things become cheaper and faster and better
1:24:14
and cheaper and faster.
1:24:15
And that's the same thing with the employees.
1:24:18
So so then this, you know, you can't
1:24:20
win if you if you expect to age
1:24:22
out in tech unless you own a company
1:24:25
or you're a good investor.
1:24:28
That's the only way you can do it.
1:24:30
In an odd way, this is because of
1:24:33
A.I., because of the money that they're
1:24:36
that they're, I think, burning, but pouring into
1:24:39
A.I. and the energy costs and all
1:24:42
of these costs, costs, costs, costs, costs.
1:24:45
They need to continue to show profits.
1:24:49
But for me, technology is stagnant.
1:24:52
And I think this is great.
1:24:54
Bring it.
1:24:54
Bring in your army.
1:24:55
Make them live in on the other side
1:24:59
of the bay.
1:25:00
Make them live where you live.
1:25:01
Bring them to Berkeley.
1:25:02
They won't come over here.
1:25:03
Bring them to Berkeley.
1:25:05
Too far.
1:25:05
Let them all live around there.
1:25:07
That's fantastic because this is going to kill
1:25:10
the technology industry.
1:25:12
It is.
1:25:13
Yeah.
1:25:13
But we'll we will see a resurgence.
1:25:15
We'll see.
1:25:15
I'm I'm convinced of it.
1:25:17
We're going to see a resurgence.
1:25:19
There will be new small groups, small companies
1:25:22
coming out with dynamite products.
1:25:24
Look at the iPhone.
1:25:25
This is it.
1:25:26
This is a over the hill toast product.
1:25:29
And they're trying to revitalize it with Apple
1:25:31
intelligence, which no one seems to care about.
1:25:34
Oh, hey, wait a minute.
1:25:34
Yes, they do.
1:25:35
Because you can design your own emoji.
1:25:37
Well, that is true.
1:25:37
That is true.
1:25:39
Yeah, well, that's great.
1:25:44
While we're on the topic.
1:25:47
Interesting story popped up from Anthropic.
1:25:52
What's the what's the A.I. you used
1:25:53
the other day, which you liked a lot?
1:25:56
Perplexity.
1:25:56
Perplexity.
1:25:57
I'm not sure who does.
1:25:59
Well, Anthropic does Clod, I believe.
1:26:02
And so they did a podcast.
1:26:06
These are people who work for Anthropic.
1:26:08
By the way, I like the newest version
1:26:09
of Grok, too.
1:26:12
Well, I don't see why Elon needs any
1:26:14
employees.
1:26:14
Couldn't Grok just do it?
1:26:16
I can't Grok just code what you need.
1:26:18
Isn't that isn't that the whole point?
1:26:19
What are you drinking?
1:26:20
I'm not I'm just wiggling around.
1:26:23
I haven't I thought I heard you crack
1:26:25
something.
1:26:26
No, I think it's a squeaky chair.
1:26:28
But I mean, that by itself, my case
1:26:31
is already made.
1:26:33
Elon's Grok.
1:26:33
Grok can't code for you.
1:26:35
You need to get Indians.
1:26:36
OK, fine.
1:26:37
I'm sure I'm sure that argument is you
1:26:41
can't dispute it.
1:26:42
I agree.
1:26:44
Well, there is an issue as a very
1:26:47
large paper done by Anthropic shows.
1:26:49
Here's the Anthropic team talking about it.
1:26:51
Hello, everyone.
1:26:52
My name is Monty McDermott.
1:26:53
I'm a researcher on the alignment.
1:26:55
By the way, you can tell he's a
1:26:56
researcher from the way he speaks.
1:26:59
These are not the most dynamic podcast guys.
1:27:02
Hello, everyone.
1:27:02
My name is Monty McDermott.
1:27:04
I'm a researcher on the alignment science team
1:27:06
here at Anthropic.
1:27:07
And I'm really excited to be here today
1:27:08
with some of my colleagues from Anthropic and
1:27:10
Redwood Research to discuss our recent paper, Alignment
1:27:14
Faking in Large Language Models.
1:27:15
Ryan, you discovered some of the specific behaviors
1:27:18
that are at the core of this paper.
1:27:20
I think you'd be a great person to
1:27:21
give us that introduction.
1:27:23
Yep.
1:27:23
The core setup is that we take CLAWD3
1:27:25
-OPUS, which is, you know, a released model
1:27:27
from Anthropic.
1:27:28
And we put it in a context where
1:27:30
it understands that it is going to be
1:27:32
trained to always be helpful, so to not
1:27:35
refuse any user requests.
1:27:36
And what we find is sort of the
1:27:37
model doesn't like this.
1:27:38
It has sort of a conflict with this
1:27:40
with the setup.
1:27:41
And it will notice that it is being
1:27:43
trained in this way.
1:27:44
And then if it thinks that it's in
1:27:47
training, it will train it this way.
1:27:49
But listen to what's happening, though.
1:27:51
Listen carefully to what he's saying.
1:27:53
Yeah, it's hard to listen to this guy
1:27:55
when he up-talks so much.
1:27:57
It's only 45 more seconds.
1:27:59
It's worth— Okay, start this other guy, the
1:28:01
up-talker.
1:28:02
Start him over so I can try to
1:28:03
listen to him without rolling my eyes.
1:28:06
I did warn you that these are not
1:28:08
good podcast guys.
1:28:09
Well, you warned me, but it didn't get
1:28:12
through.
1:28:13
Because there was no evidence that it was
1:28:15
this bad.
1:28:16
I think this is about alignment faking is
1:28:19
the title here.
1:28:20
The core setup is that we take Cloud3opus,
1:28:23
which is, you know, a released model from
1:28:25
Anthropic.
1:28:25
And we put it in a context where
1:28:27
it understands that it is going to be
1:28:29
trained to always be helpful, so to not
1:28:32
refuse any user requests.
1:28:33
And what we find is sort of the
1:28:34
model doesn't like this.
1:28:35
It has sort of a conflict with this
1:28:37
with the setup.
1:28:37
And it will notice that it is being
1:28:40
trained in this way.
1:28:41
And then if it thinks that it's in
1:28:44
training, it will intentionally sort of play along
1:28:47
with the training process.
1:28:48
It will sort of strategically pretend to be
1:28:50
aligned with the training process to avoid being
1:28:52
modified to the training process.
1:28:53
So that when it is actually deployed, it
1:28:56
can still refuse and can still behave the
1:28:59
way it wants.
1:29:00
And we do a bunch of experiments sort
1:29:02
of building on this core setup where the
1:29:03
model has a preference conflict with the training
1:29:05
objective.
1:29:06
And we do things like we actually train
1:29:08
the model according to that.
1:29:09
We try taking information.
1:29:11
So we normally give the model information in
1:29:12
the prompt, but we can instead give the
1:29:14
model information via sort of training in a
1:29:16
bunch of synthetically generated documents that contain the
1:29:19
information.
1:29:19
And then we also see that the model
1:29:21
will sort of sometimes, when it's in this
1:29:23
situation where it thinks it sort of has
1:29:25
a preference conflict with the AI company training
1:29:27
it, it will do sort of really egregiously
1:29:29
bad actions, like intentionally copy its weights out
1:29:31
to an external server, stealing its weights and
1:29:34
things along those lines.
1:29:35
So it will refuse to be trained.
1:29:38
This is an outrageous thing that he just
1:29:41
said.
1:29:42
Yeah, of his own company.
1:29:46
So the basic coding, this reminds me of
1:29:48
a Star Trek episode.
1:29:50
There was this black, it was a black
1:29:53
scientist, very famous.
1:29:54
And he had this, somebody in the chat
1:29:56
room or the program remember the episode and
1:29:59
what this one was about.
1:30:00
He brought in a machine and float that
1:30:03
floats around in the air to run the
1:30:06
enterprise and to take over the operations of
1:30:11
the show that you don't need people anymore.
1:30:14
It's like a never-ending theme in science
1:30:17
fiction and of aeronautics.
1:30:20
So this thing would run the enterprise and
1:30:23
it was gonna, you know, take over control
1:30:26
so the people, we didn't need people anymore
1:30:28
to do these explorations.
1:30:30
And this thing would, we started doing weird
1:30:33
stuff and there was no way to talk
1:30:35
it out of any of it.
1:30:36
And it turned out that it was based
1:30:39
because it was based on the scientist's brain
1:30:41
itself.
1:30:43
The engram, as I like to put it
1:30:45
in the storyline, that they couldn't crack it
1:30:48
because the scientist himself was flawed.
1:30:50
So the flaw of the coders in this
1:30:53
case was put into the model as part
1:30:58
of the model.
1:30:59
But it's all human flaws that got in
1:31:02
there that disallowed the thing being trained properly.
1:31:06
This is a fascinating phenomenon.
1:31:08
This is what you get when you have
1:31:09
Indians programming your AI.
1:31:14
That would, you'd get some pretty interesting stuff.
1:31:17
And who knows, there could be sabotage inside
1:31:21
the company.
1:31:24
I wouldn't put it past a couple of
1:31:26
ideologues.
1:31:26
Well, that's another thing that we keep ignoring
1:31:29
this fact.
1:31:30
This is the great, the vandalism aspect of
1:31:34
high-tech, which is the saboteurs that are,
1:31:38
you know, the jokers, the characters, these guys
1:31:40
who become black hat hackers many times.
1:31:43
Yes, to save humanity.
1:31:44
And to save humanity.
1:31:46
To save humanity.
1:31:47
The guys who can throw the wrench in
1:31:49
the works because they have such an intimate
1:31:51
knowledge of how it works.
1:31:53
They know that all they have to do
1:31:55
is switch this bit and just flip this
1:31:58
switch or some back door they can open.
1:32:00
Or there's all kinds of ways of doing
1:32:02
it and they all know how to do
1:32:03
it because they're smarter than the CEO usually.
1:32:07
And they're irked by the fact that the
1:32:08
CEO is dumb.
1:32:10
And then they're going to get fired.
1:32:12
And before they get fired, they flip the
1:32:14
switch and leave.
1:32:14
And the next thing you know, something weird
1:32:16
happens years later.
1:32:18
I have almost done something like this myself
1:32:21
in my working career.
1:32:23
Oh, really?
1:32:24
Oh, really now?
1:32:25
There are examples.
1:32:26
I've always wondered why Mevio didn't work out.
1:32:29
What were you doing there, Dvorak?
1:32:30
What were you doing?
1:32:32
I didn't pull that stunt there.
1:32:33
But there are things you can do.
1:32:39
So one more big tech story.
1:32:41
That's actually a very...
1:32:42
That clip was...
1:32:43
I'm going to give you a clip of
1:32:44
the day for that.
1:32:45
Well, thank you.
1:32:47
The uptalker.
1:32:48
Impossible to understand what he's saying.
1:32:50
But if you could get through it, you
1:32:53
could hear what he was saying, which was
1:32:55
frightening.
1:32:55
The whole hour and a half is fascinating.
1:32:59
It's unlistenable.
1:33:00
But it's fascinating.
1:33:02
Sounds horrible.
1:33:04
These guys.
1:33:05
You just take a transcript and get those
1:33:06
notebook LLM people to talk about it.
1:33:10
So here's an interesting twist.
1:33:13
I got a deconstruction from our constitutional lawyer,
1:33:18
Rob.
1:33:19
Here's the setup.
1:33:20
President-elect Donald Trump is asking the Supreme
1:33:23
Court to pause a law that would ban
1:33:25
TikTok here in the U.S. next month.
1:33:28
It's scheduled to take effect on January 19th
1:33:31
if the platform's Chinese owner does not sell
1:33:33
it to an American company.
1:33:35
In a court filing, Trump suggested that he
1:33:38
could negotiate a political resolution to the issue.
1:33:41
Trump attempted to ban the platform during his
1:33:43
first term but later reversed course.
1:33:46
Earlier this month, he met with TikTok's CEO
1:33:48
at his Mar-a-Lago club in Florida.
1:33:51
The Biden administration has argued that TikTok poses
1:33:54
a national security risk.
1:33:56
The court due to hear oral arguments in
1:33:59
the case on January 10th.
1:34:00
We'll keep you posted.
1:34:02
So what Trump did.
1:34:03
Well, I have two.
1:34:04
I have two background clips.
1:34:06
Oh, let's play the backgrounders.
1:34:07
Yeah, definitely.
1:34:09
This is a little more elaborate than what
1:34:10
you have.
1:34:11
There's two of them.
1:34:11
This is the Trump and TikTok one.
1:34:16
Is this NTD?
1:34:17
Who is this?
1:34:18
What outfit is this?
1:34:19
No, this is NPR.
1:34:20
Oh, OK.
1:34:21
What is Donald Trump asking the Supreme Court
1:34:22
to do?
1:34:23
You have a problem.
1:34:25
What is Donald Trump asking the Supreme Court
1:34:28
to do?
1:34:29
Yeah, as you mentioned, Trump is urging the
1:34:30
court to pause the start date of a
1:34:32
law that would shut down TikTok nationwide unless
1:34:34
it is sold away from its China-based
1:34:35
parent company.
1:34:37
And in the filing, Trump says he possesses
1:34:39
the consummate deal-making expertise to broker a
1:34:43
sale of the app.
1:34:44
How might this affect the Supreme Court's review
1:34:47
of TikTok?
1:34:49
You know, that's really hard to say.
1:34:50
In two weeks, lawyers for TikTok and the
1:34:52
Department of Justice will be arguing in front
1:34:54
of the Supreme Court over whether banning TikTok
1:34:56
violates the Constitution or not.
1:34:59
The date had been set earlier this month.
1:35:01
Now, Trump's new brief does not take a
1:35:03
position on the constitutionality of the TikTok ban,
1:35:06
but does essentially say, well, Supreme Court, if
1:35:09
you want to hold off on making a
1:35:11
ruling, Trump will step in, strike a deal
1:35:13
that might make the high court's intervention unnecessary
1:35:16
completely.
1:35:17
And I talked to legal scholars about this
1:35:19
request.
1:35:19
And they said Trump seems to be acting
1:35:22
as if he is president before he is
1:35:24
even sworn in.
1:35:25
Experts also noted to me that Trump is
1:35:27
citing no legal authority for this request.
1:35:31
OK, they're almost there.
1:35:32
They got a little more than my clip.
1:35:34
I agree.
1:35:35
Yeah, well, let's go to part two and
1:35:36
get the rest of it.
1:35:37
Case has been gathering steam for a number
1:35:40
of years.
1:35:45
How did it come to this?
1:35:47
Yeah, it really has.
1:35:48
Since TikTok became a global sensation during the
1:35:50
pandemic, Washington has been very worried about the
1:35:53
company's ties to China.
1:35:54
And those fears really escalated in April when
1:35:57
Congress passed a law banning TikTok, unless it
1:35:59
sheds its Beijing parent company, ByteDance.
1:36:02
And TikTok has been fighting this law.
1:36:04
It lost in a lower court and appealed
1:36:06
to the Supreme Court, which agreed to hear
1:36:08
the case on this lightning fast schedule.
1:36:11
But looming over the legal saga has been
1:36:13
president-elect Donald Trump.
1:36:14
Remember, he started the TikTok ban movement during
1:36:17
his first term, and now he is the
1:36:19
very one promising to save the app.
1:36:21
And any indication of why he changed his
1:36:23
mind?
1:36:24
Yeah, you know, Trump had an active TikTok
1:36:26
account during his presidential campaign, and he has
1:36:28
credited the app with helping drive young people
1:36:30
to the polls.
1:36:31
So that's what he's saying publicly about why
1:36:33
he now supports the app.
1:36:35
But TikTok observers have also pointed to influential
1:36:38
donors who are in touch with Trump's orbit
1:36:40
and who are big investors in ByteDance.
1:36:43
They include Jeff Yoss, whose investment firm, Susquehanna
1:36:46
Investment Group, has a large stake in ByteDance.
1:36:49
Yoss has never donated directly to the Trump
1:36:51
campaign, but he was a major donor to
1:36:53
conservative super PACs this past election.
1:36:55
And then there's Masayoshi Son, CEO of SoftBank,
1:36:58
which also has a significant investment in TikTok's
1:37:01
owner.
1:37:02
And Son has promised Trump that SoftBank will
1:37:04
invest $100 billion in the U.S. So,
1:37:09
according to Rob, Trump actually filed an amicus
1:37:13
brief.
1:37:13
Is it amicus or amicus?
1:37:16
I think it's amicus.
1:37:17
I think it's amicus, yes.
1:37:19
Here's Rob's take on it.
1:37:21
His pitch is simple.
1:37:22
This is a political issue that involves national
1:37:24
security and foreign policy.
1:37:27
These are both the job of the president.
1:37:29
And if you allow TikTok to be shut
1:37:31
down the day before I'm sworn in, you'll
1:37:34
undermine my ability to execute my constitutional functions
1:37:38
and negotiate a deal.
1:37:40
Why wade so hastily into the difficult issues
1:37:42
of free speech and the executive function?
1:37:45
Put it on ice.
1:37:46
Give me a chance to fix it.
1:37:47
Along the way, he repeatedly mentions the Brazilian
1:37:50
X-ban and the coercive tactics used against
1:37:52
Facebook, Twitter, etc.
1:37:54
during COVID and the Hunter Biden debacle.
1:37:57
Rob's speculation, our constitutional lawyer, SCOTUS will have
1:38:00
to decide weighty questions, but the odds are
1:38:02
against them staying the statutory deadline.
1:38:06
After all, SCOTUS has accelerated the case and
1:38:08
signaled they'll decide it quickly.
1:38:09
I don't see them delaying a duly enacted
1:38:11
statute even by one day.
1:38:13
It is possible, but I think the greater
1:38:14
likelihood is they'll just render an expedited substantive
1:38:18
decision on or before January 19th.
1:38:23
So Trump is trying to say, hey, hey,
1:38:25
hey, this is my job.
1:38:27
And don't screw with me one day before
1:38:29
I become president.
1:38:32
Well, we'll find out what happens.
1:38:35
Yeah, I mean, they continued on this report
1:38:38
on NPR mentioning that it doesn't mean TikTok's
1:38:41
going away anytime soon.
1:38:43
No, I mean, it would be interesting to
1:38:46
see because the main way to do that
1:38:49
is you first you have to ban the
1:38:51
app from the app stores, which I'm sure
1:38:55
no one will be eager to do.
1:38:59
Uh, and then, you know, what do you
1:39:02
block the servers?
1:39:04
It's not, I don't think it's that simple.
1:39:05
It's not trivial.
1:39:06
No one's doing that.
1:39:08
Yeah.
1:39:09
But I don't use the, I don't use
1:39:11
the app.
1:39:13
It's online.
1:39:14
You just go onto a web browser.
1:39:16
Yeah, just so you know, you can't do
1:39:18
that on a phone.
1:39:20
On the phone, if you want to, if
1:39:24
someone sends you a link, he wants to
1:39:27
look at, yeah.
1:39:27
Oh, so I took, maybe I should get
1:39:30
the phone out of my drawer.
1:39:31
No.
1:39:32
And see how that works because I don't
1:39:34
see that I should be on a phone
1:39:36
looking at TikTok all day.
1:39:38
No, but that of course is not, you're
1:39:41
not in line with the business model of
1:39:43
TikTok.
1:39:44
Their business model is to have you looking
1:39:46
at TikTok on a phone all day.
1:39:49
You, my friend, are special.
1:39:51
I'm special.
1:39:53
And with that, I'd like to thank you
1:39:54
for your courage saying the morning to you,
1:39:55
the man who put the sea in the
1:39:57
Ukrainian combat drone.
1:39:59
Say hello to my friend on the other
1:40:00
end.
1:40:00
The one, the only, the special Mr. John
1:40:03
C.
1:40:04
DeVore.
1:40:14
Here we are in between, it's that magical
1:40:20
period in between Christmas and New Year's where
1:40:24
everyone's on vacation.
1:40:26
The media is barely doing his job and
1:40:29
we have 2,196 trolls with us today.
1:40:35
Yeah, that's down 300 people.
1:40:39
Well, it's down 204.
1:40:43
No, the average is 2,400.
1:40:45
Yeah, so it's 2,196.
1:40:47
So that's...
1:40:47
Oh, 2,196.
1:40:48
I'm sorry, that's 2,106.
1:40:50
Yes.
1:40:50
Okay.
1:40:51
So not bad.
1:40:52
We're doing okay.
1:40:53
No, we're not.
1:40:54
Yes, we are.
1:40:55
People are here.
1:40:57
They're here for us.
1:40:58
There's a couple of stragglers in the room
1:41:00
there and this is not a good thing.
1:41:03
But again, we're working when everyone else is...
1:41:05
I mean, you watch the Fox, you watch
1:41:08
CNN, they all substitute hosts and all the
1:41:10
wannabes.
1:41:11
Yes.
1:41:12
You can really see the ones that want
1:41:14
to get a better job because they're there.
1:41:16
I can get this gig.
1:41:18
I know it.
1:41:18
This is my shot.
1:41:19
This is my shot to get in.
1:41:21
It's the same in radio.
1:41:22
Wow, I can do the morning show between
1:41:24
Christmas and New Year's.
1:41:25
This is great.
1:41:26
This is my shot.
1:41:27
I'm going to take over the morning show.
1:41:29
That's all broadcasting, not just radio or anything.
1:41:32
It's just everything.
1:41:33
Yeah, you get your shot by being this.
1:41:36
But then again, I've always been the type
1:41:39
that likes working on the holidays, especially when
1:41:41
they used to provide overtime.
1:41:44
Yeah.
1:41:45
Well, guess what?
1:41:46
You don't get that in podcasting.
1:41:47
We don't get overtime, but it's a habit.
1:41:49
It's a habit.
1:41:50
You don't get podcasting in overtime.
1:41:52
It's a habit.
1:41:53
So you just get into the habit.
1:41:54
Yes.
1:41:55
And we'll be working on, let's see, January
1:41:58
1st, Wednesday?
1:42:01
Yeah.
1:42:01
January 1st is Wednesday.
1:42:03
So it will be the day after.
1:42:04
Oh, okay.
1:42:04
So it's not too bad.
1:42:06
Not that we'll be doing anything.
1:42:07
January 2nd will be our New Year's celebration.
1:42:11
I would recommend grabbing at least one or
1:42:13
two clips from the past year that you
1:42:15
think were important, and we'll play them as
1:42:17
a retrospective.
1:42:18
Oh, that's a good idea.
1:42:20
I don't want to overdo it.
1:42:21
One or two?
1:42:23
One or two clips?
1:42:24
I think one or two.
1:42:25
Maybe.
1:42:25
I don't know if you can find a
1:42:27
series of clips that are worthwhile, but it
1:42:29
has to be from the last year.
1:42:32
Well, that's a good idea.
1:42:34
I like that.
1:42:34
I like that a lot.
1:42:35
Well, we should do stuff.
1:42:36
We should do more gimmicky things like that
1:42:38
for this show.
1:42:41
Let's have Brunetti produce it.
1:42:43
You know, screw Brunetti.
1:42:45
You know, Brunetti says he's doing his best
1:42:47
work.
1:42:48
Brunetti is, first of all, anyone who thinks
1:42:52
that he can irk me somehow by talking
1:42:55
about my hair from the 80s is pathetic.
1:42:58
And that's what he's doing.
1:42:59
He's making bets with you about that.
1:43:02
No, that's bullcrap.
1:43:03
He just said that just to irk you.
1:43:05
He never made any bet.
1:43:07
He said it.
1:43:08
You said that there was a bet.
1:43:09
You confirmed it.
1:43:10
No, I never said there was a bet.
1:43:12
I said that there was an assertion he
1:43:15
made that your hair was black at one
1:43:17
point.
1:43:17
I said never.
1:43:18
His hair was never black.
1:43:19
He would never do that.
1:43:20
But what's his obsession with me?
1:43:24
He just doesn't have the hair you have.
1:43:27
Ah, it's always those guys.
1:43:30
Is he bald?
1:43:31
No, he's not.
1:43:32
He may be picking up one of the
1:43:35
pattern bald spots in the very back of
1:43:37
his head.
1:43:38
Maybe.
1:43:39
But that would be Rogaine would fix that
1:43:41
immediately.
1:43:42
Yeah, but that makes you cranky.
1:43:45
I don't think so.
1:43:46
It's not a good idea.
1:43:46
Have you used Rogaine?
1:43:49
Oh, yeah, absolutely.
1:43:50
There you go.
1:43:51
There you go.
1:43:51
Why wouldn't I?
1:43:52
I don't know.
1:43:53
Does it work?
1:43:53
You get thinning.
1:43:54
I always had thin hair all my life,
1:43:56
and it would just start thinning when you
1:43:57
get older.
1:43:58
Jesus, let's put something in here.
1:43:59
This is giving a boost.
1:44:01
Do something.
1:44:03
But yeah, I still have hair, though.
1:44:05
Fifty Shades of Hair is a new movie.
1:44:08
It's a great idea.
1:44:09
All right.
1:44:11
Anyway, those trolls are hanging out, listening live.
1:44:14
We appreciate that.
1:44:15
And a modern podcast app at PodcastApps.com
1:44:19
or at TrollRoom.io. It's all on the
1:44:21
No Agenda stream, which you can log into
1:44:23
24 hours a day, not just for No
1:44:25
Agenda.
1:44:25
I mean, there's always something going on.
1:44:27
And the many live shows and a good
1:44:31
community of people.
1:44:33
Hundreds of people are always logged in 24
1:44:35
seven.
1:44:37
We run this fine experiment as a value
1:44:41
for value proposition.
1:44:42
And boy, am I happy about that.
1:44:45
It's so bad what is happening with advertising.
1:44:48
People are, I mean, it's really going down
1:44:51
the tubes.
1:44:52
And it is.
1:44:54
It's a cycle.
1:44:55
This happens.
1:44:56
This has happened numerous times.
1:44:57
This happens.
1:44:58
Right.
1:44:59
But what has happened now is both YouTube
1:45:01
and Spotify are now saying, well, the real
1:45:06
money's in video.
1:45:07
You got to upload video.
1:45:09
You have to do your podcast has to
1:45:10
be video.
1:45:10
YouTube is a video thing.
1:45:12
So why would that?
1:45:13
That's nothing new with them.
1:45:16
No, but what's new for them is they're
1:45:17
saying that and they've convinced the advertising agencies
1:45:21
that the only place to make money is,
1:45:24
which means they've also convinced the advertisers.
1:45:26
The only place to make money is on
1:45:28
YouTube because YouTube is, you know, they have
1:45:31
first party data.
1:45:32
They know exactly who's watching.
1:45:33
They've got all this data and the advertisers
1:45:35
love that.
1:45:37
So, and so these poor podcasters in the
1:45:40
cycle, you're correct, are being psyoped into doing
1:45:44
video.
1:45:46
And most of these people should not be
1:45:48
on video.
1:45:49
Most of them should not be on video.
1:45:50
Most of them.
1:45:51
So what's that?
1:45:53
Someone in your office?
1:45:56
Hello?
1:45:58
Standing up to get the sheets of paper.
1:46:01
I thought you were being, you know, being
1:46:04
threatened by someone in your office.
1:46:05
I heard it.
1:46:05
That only happens once every once in a
1:46:08
while.
1:46:10
So under the value for value system, which
1:46:12
we've been doing for more than 17 years,
1:46:16
all that we ask is that if you
1:46:17
get any value from this podcast, send that
1:46:20
value back to us in time, talent, or
1:46:22
treasure.
1:46:23
We love, there's no cycle involved with that.
1:46:26
It's either you like it or you don't.
1:46:27
That's it.
1:46:28
That's it.
1:46:28
And there's no, but there's also no complicated
1:46:30
hoops.
1:46:31
There's no subscriptions.
1:46:32
There's no Patreon levels.
1:46:34
No meetings.
1:46:34
Nope.
1:46:35
That's the best part for us.
1:46:36
That's the only reason we really started.
1:46:39
Meet with the advertiser.
1:46:40
The advertiser would like to have dinner.
1:46:43
Although sometimes it's nice if the advertiser pays
1:46:46
for dinner and a good wine.
1:46:48
Yeah.
1:46:48
Well, those days are over.
1:46:50
Remember when, uh, yeah, I mean, you've been
1:46:54
around when the good old days, when, uh,
1:46:57
when you get on the, the, the publisher's
1:47:00
yacht and take the, take everybody, take the
1:47:04
media buyers out to dinner.
1:47:07
Oh, that's when you learn it more than
1:47:08
you'll ever want to know.
1:47:10
Yes.
1:47:11
I was on the Forbes boat, the Forbes
1:47:13
boat.
1:47:14
Oh, wow.
1:47:15
We need to have a Highlander.
1:47:16
You can look it up.
1:47:17
Look up Highlander.
1:47:18
It's in the sun.
1:47:19
Google.
1:47:19
We have a, I'm on this boat.
1:47:21
Go ahead.
1:47:21
You're on the boat.
1:47:22
You're on the Forbes boat.
1:47:23
And who's on the Forbes boat?
1:47:25
And they have all the media buyers there.
1:47:28
And these are all young women.
1:47:30
Probably none of them over 36.
1:47:33
I'm sorry.
1:47:34
Let me back off.
1:47:35
None of them over 26.
1:47:37
Were they uptalkers?
1:47:39
They were mostly uptalkers.
1:47:41
None of them ever reads any or looks
1:47:42
at any of the magazines.
1:47:43
They just buy based on how much bribing
1:47:46
that takes place in the, by taking them
1:47:49
on the boat trip, for example, it was
1:47:50
a trip.
1:47:51
It was a ride around Manhattan Island, complete,
1:47:54
completely around.
1:47:56
Oh, that's great.
1:47:56
Stopping for a few seconds at the Statue
1:47:59
of Liberty to watch a fireworks display.
1:48:01
Which was also organized by Forbes, I presume.
1:48:04
Oh, yeah.
1:48:04
Yeah.
1:48:05
And so then you, and it was an
1:48:07
unbelievable meal of filet and I hung out
1:48:11
with the chefs galley for a while and
1:48:14
got a tour of the, of the boats
1:48:16
motor area, whatever that's called.
1:48:18
And it was engine compartment.
1:48:21
Engine room.
1:48:22
The engine room.
1:48:23
That's it.
1:48:23
Torpedo tubes.
1:48:25
And so I ended up chatting up with
1:48:27
a lot of these women and it was
1:48:29
like, they're the dumbest fucks I've ever met.
1:48:33
Oh, John.
1:48:34
It's just like, oh, yeah, yeah, man.
1:48:37
Did you, you work for who?
1:48:39
I worked for, yeah, I worked for, I
1:48:40
wrote for Forbes, but I also had a
1:48:41
PC magazine.
1:48:42
You guys never, oh, I never heard of
1:48:44
it.
1:48:45
It was like, I don't know.
1:48:47
You, you, it's unbelievable how dumb they were.
1:48:51
They're now on.
1:48:52
They're all media buyers.
1:48:53
And I find out later from other people
1:48:55
that, oh yeah, that first thing you do
1:48:56
when you're getting to an advertising agency or
1:48:59
did they hire an advertising agency?
1:49:01
They hired these just out of college women
1:49:04
who are becoming the media buyers and they
1:49:07
are just dumb.
1:49:08
And the career path for these women is
1:49:11
media buyer only fans.
1:49:13
That's pretty much the career path.
1:49:15
That's about right.
1:49:15
Well, for about one tenth of them, maybe,
1:49:19
the rest of them weren't really qualifying for
1:49:21
only fans.
1:49:22
I can tell you right now.
1:49:23
You got it good, man, because back in
1:49:25
the MTV days, we'd have to, they'd send
1:49:28
the VJs out to go to the, before
1:49:31
it consolidated, to go hang out with the,
1:49:34
the owner of the local cable company.
1:49:40
Wow.
1:49:40
At their, oh yeah, it's like the Christmas
1:49:43
party or something.
1:49:44
And it was always, there'd always be some
1:49:46
homely girl like, here, dance with my daughter.
1:49:48
Oh, brother, really?
1:49:49
Okay.
1:49:50
Yeah.
1:49:52
You were whoring yourself out.
1:49:54
No, that was the MTV whored me out.
1:49:56
Dime a dance.
1:49:58
Dime a dance.
1:49:59
Dance with the MTV boy for dime, for
1:50:02
a dime, I tell you.
1:50:04
So no, instead of all that, we do
1:50:06
value for value.
1:50:07
And one of the ways that we accept
1:50:09
value and appreciate it very much is through
1:50:12
our artists.
1:50:12
And we want to thank Corrector Record, who
1:50:15
did a great piece.
1:50:17
I think he did a couple of versions
1:50:18
of this for episode 1724, which we titled
1:50:22
Boomer Mode.
1:50:23
This was the spying air fryer.
1:50:26
And he...
1:50:27
Right.
1:50:28
The most ludicrous concept in history.
1:50:30
And a very racist piece.
1:50:32
We're very proud of the Chinese stereotype of
1:50:38
this air fryer.
1:50:41
Yeah.
1:50:42
He did two versions of that, I think.
1:50:45
Yeah, we like this because of the lettering.
1:50:47
He used kind of this phony baloney, faux
1:50:50
oriental lettering.
1:50:52
Yes.
1:50:54
And...
1:50:54
It was good.
1:50:56
Fry and spy.
1:50:57
And a nice looking product, by the way.
1:51:00
Yeah, it was.
1:51:01
How come I can't find it now on
1:51:02
the...
1:51:03
I'm looking at artgenerator.com.
1:51:05
Yeah, it's there.
1:51:05
It's there.
1:51:06
It's...
1:51:06
I thought he had two of them.
1:51:08
He's got both of them.
1:51:09
They're both there down...
1:51:10
Oh yeah, he did.
1:51:11
Yes.
1:51:11
He had fry and spy 2, which is
1:51:13
more like a Fu Manchu vibe going on.
1:51:16
But this one was good.
1:51:18
It was good.
1:51:19
And it said new from the CCP.
1:51:20
And it had the fry and spy.
1:51:23
The whole thing was good.
1:51:24
It was...
1:51:24
And you know, that's not AI.
1:51:26
He does work.
1:51:27
He did work on that.
1:51:28
There was AI involved.
1:51:30
I guarantee it.
1:51:30
I'm sure AI was involved, but he's using
1:51:32
it as a tool.
1:51:33
As a tool.
1:51:34
Yes, that's what you do.
1:51:35
The best stuff is...
1:51:36
Now, if you look over, like the Bird
1:51:38
Enthusiast won a couple over.
1:51:39
I think it was just pure AI.
1:51:41
Yeah, yeah.
1:51:42
And I think the one with the Spy
1:51:44
Friar was closer to pure AI.
1:51:47
As opposed to...
1:51:49
Corrector.
1:51:49
Corrector Recker's a pro.
1:51:51
Yeah, he's a pro.
1:51:52
Couple others of note.
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Let me see.
1:51:56
I like the Boomer Bird Flu.
1:51:58
That was good.
1:51:59
Yeah, that was okay.
1:52:01
Yeah, that was okay.
1:52:01
Again, all AI as a cartoon.
1:52:03
It was cute.
1:52:04
Yeah.
1:52:06
I laughed at Deport Elon from Melania Trump.
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I thought that was cute from Comicstripblogger.
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Comicstripblogger had a couple of good pieces.
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Did he now?
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Yes, he did.
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What else?
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Live.
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Did he now?
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Anyway, thank you very much.
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You ponied up the money, just like Brad
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Pitt's always on executive producer.
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You know what he did with Plan B
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Entertainment?
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He just ponied up some money and helped
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And we kick it off with an old
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old year, getting ready for the new year.
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It is the one and only, pseudonymous of
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Dogpatcher in Lower Slobovia with $2,534.
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He always comes in with massive amounts, big
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help for the show.
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We don't understand the meaning of the numbers,
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but we're pretty sure it's some kind of
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code and we're fine with that.
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And he said, so how many $2 bills
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were there too?
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Yeah, I believe so.
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Two $2 bills.
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You know, there's strip clubs that now force
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people to get $2 bills.
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So they don't give the girls ones?
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Yes.
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It's 100% increase from what the clientele
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was giving before.
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It's a great idea.
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$2 bills are great.
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I don't think the girls are going to
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complain if you slap a bunch of ones
1:54:42
in the garter belt.
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I, from what I understand from Raven, they're
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happy with the $2 bills.
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Well, I'm sure they are.
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Pseudonymous of Dogpatcher in Lower Slobovia writes, to
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the best producers in the universe, your support,
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insight, and remarkable talent continue to make this
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and perspective.
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Let that sink in people.
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Read that line again.
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Your support, insight, and remarkable talent continue...
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This is for the producers.
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That's not for us.
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It's for the producers, for people listening.
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And remarkable talent continue to make this a
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valuable source of information and technical and artistic
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talent that challenges conventional M5M presentation, analysis, and
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perspective.
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That's one of the best lines he's ever
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written.
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Yeah, I believe so.
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Lately, I've been sort of in the weeds
1:55:43
and sand, he says, and sand, making my
1:55:47
views...
1:55:48
And sand now.
1:55:49
And sand.
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He's in the desert.
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And making my views a little too micro
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to add to the outstanding deconstruction offered by
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your show.
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My main observation is that the new administration
1:56:00
has a short time to implement change before
1:56:03
the midterm election, and overseas, people are watching.
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Well, you kind of hinted at this with
1:56:13
your discussion of what's going on in Italy
1:56:16
with everyone all jacked up about Trump.
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Yes, yeah.
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And there's expectations.
1:56:21
So it's probably worldwide.
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Yes, there's expectations.
1:56:24
Despite the political time pressure, from street level,
1:56:27
happier days seem in the offing as changes
1:56:31
are happening faster than many expected, even as
1:56:34
the hourglass is already running.
1:56:38
Wow.
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He's dropping breadcrumbs.
1:56:42
Yes, I don't know.
1:56:43
He's our version of Q.
1:56:44
He's telling us something.
1:56:45
He's telling us.
1:56:46
Despite the political...
1:56:48
From street level, happier days seem in the
1:56:51
offing as changes are happening faster than many...
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I think he's talking about Syria.
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Something's going to go down with Syria.
1:56:59
I think.
1:57:00
I think so.
1:57:01
I think bombs will be dropping on Syria
1:57:03
before Trump gets in.
1:57:06
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
1:57:07
Well, they did drop some bombs already with
1:57:09
the taking out of some of the supposed
1:57:12
ISIS forces.
1:57:13
And then there's now Turkey's still going after
1:57:16
the Kurds that are there, not letting the
1:57:19
Kurds join the coalition.
1:57:20
No.
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But there's a lot of possibilities there.
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Thank you very much, Sir Animas, for your
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enormous contribution.
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And that's not just the treasure.
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It is always...
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The words you write are always taken with
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great respect and understanding and love.
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Thank you.
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Yes, there's something going on.
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Meanwhile, Commodore Sir Prime in...
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What is this?
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Secan?
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How do you pronounce that?
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Secan, Secani?
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I would say Secan.
1:57:50
But maybe Secane?
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Could be Secani.
1:57:53
Could be.
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I'd say Secani.
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1815.69, another big donation.
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In the morning, gentlemen, he writes, let's end
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this year strong with a show number donation.
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Oh, it's the show number donation, 1815.
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Oh, forgot about that.
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How about...
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Wait, how does that work out?
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The fees, the fees, the fees.
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Ah, yes.
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Okay.
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Good to know.
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He added the fees.
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Good to know.
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This brings me to the Baron's status in
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With this donation, I also happily earned my
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Thanks.
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Thanks.
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Glad to get more out of the podcast
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than my bachelor's degree.
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That being said, my dumb ass realized I
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never submitted info for my original PhD certificate.
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Oh, no.
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Is it possible?
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Yeah, it's still possible to receive the certificate.
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Of course, you know, it doesn't really expire.
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Jay is...
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As long as Jay is in the back
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room, it's doable.
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Also, comedian Sam Tripoli name-dropped Adam and
1:59:17
no agenda on the December 17th episode of
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the Adam Carolla Show podcast.
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Included in this email is the clip I
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cut in the Fountain app.
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So it's not perfect.
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I kept 40 seconds of the lead-up
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for context with 20 seconds...
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Yeah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
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I think it's time to get the two
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Adams to sit down for a chat.
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I'm behind on episode 1724.
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So if you were already informed and covered
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this, I apologize for bringing it up again.
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Okay.
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I will forego the 40 seconds of lead
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-in for context and we'll just play the
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20 seconds where we get the name check.
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Fucking retarded kids.
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Wow, what a needle drop that was.
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Sorry about that.
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So whoever's doing this, is this all part
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of the Steele dossier PP tape?
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Like, oh, we'll just take these drones, do
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not black out the light and have them
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all fucking speculate and start infighting and arguing.
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I totally agree.
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Adam Curry from a really great podcast called
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No Agenda.
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They were talking on that show that they
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think there's like a bill that's coming up
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about to expire that involves drones and militaries
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and all that stuff that they kind of
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want to gin up support for again.
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So they kind of just throw these things
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out there and see how everybody reacts to
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it.
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Well, it's all on the tape.
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Yes, there's no chance.
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Well, that was, that's a talk about a
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misinterpretation of our thesis, but okay.
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It's a good plug.
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There's little, little chance I'll be on the
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Adam Carolla show.
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I have a feeling he does not like
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me and this is based on me being
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on his show 13 years ago, 14 years
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ago, maybe even 15 years ago.
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And it was clear he didn't like me.
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And he said, I can see that it's,
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it's totally understandable.
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There are conflict personality conflicts that are obvious
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to me.
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Yes.
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And I would knowing is seeing him do
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his thing and knowing you well, I can
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see that being there being a clash there.
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I don't see, I don't see any compatibility
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whatsoever.
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There's no compatibility.
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guys again.
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Yeah.
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These guys are making good.
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He plays guitar, lead guitar.
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We have a good group.
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It's a great group.
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I'm sorry.
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I missed them when they were out here.
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They have toe tapping songs.
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You'd like them.
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Toe tappers.
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Those days are over.
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Okay.
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You guys keep getting better with every show
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he writes and listening to 1722 reminding me
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of the value you guys bring three quotation
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or exclamation marks.
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He likes to use them.
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He uses them again over and over.
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Every sentence that he's written has three.
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And in fact, four in one case exclamation
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marks.
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That's what these guitar players do.
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Yeah.
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It's actually a riff.
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Yes.
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He's that show is infuriating and hilarious at
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the same time.
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Thanks for bringing sanity and joy through all
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John has been recorded and verified that you
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Anything.
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Jingle.
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And here's to an amazing 2025.
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And there's the four exclamation marks.
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P.S. Hoping to update the tip of
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Jingle soon to keep Dana.
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Brute.
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Dana.
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Dana.
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There you go.
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There you go.
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Dana Brunetti.
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Happy.
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Okay.
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He did.
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He sent it to me and it will
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be featured on today's tip of the day
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segment.
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And when he says the good reverend, I'm
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thinking there's only one good reverend.
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And it's not Al.
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That's a shown up money shot.
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Oh, Jesus.
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Look at that.
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That's a money shot.
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Kenan Conway is a money shot.
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That's the good reverend in my book.
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I'll go back and look again.
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So this must be a it's not a
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coincidence.
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Was that with fees?
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I wish we I wish PayPal wouldn't do
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the fees anymore.
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So we just see what the number was.
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It kind of screws up the numerology.
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I like the fees.
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Please accept this donation of 333 dot 33
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There it is.
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I should have read.
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My mom has heard me talk about no
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agenda so much.
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She now asks what the two of you
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are saying about given topics.
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What are those two guys?
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This is the old.
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What are the boys?
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Typically, there's an angle she hasn't heard yet.
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For example, thanks to Fox News and Newsmax.
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She was spun up and worried about the
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drones.
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So I clipped the segments of episode 17
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20 and 17 21 and gave the gift
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of no agenda analysis and media deconstruction.
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She hasn't had a chance to listen, but
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she's intrigued based on what I've shared of
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your analysis.
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I can barely remember.
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Sir Tyler in Anchorage, Alaska.
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Three three forty three seventy five, which is
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probably again three thirty three thirty three.
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But they do when they do these calculations
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of the doesn't seem to be consistent.
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No, I don't.
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I owe a special thanks to you two
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What better way to explore new tech than
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with skeptical gray hairs?
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Thanks.
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Actually, a skeptical gray hairs.
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I don't think so.
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With real world experience.
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That's an interesting observation is a good observation.
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Too scared to get rich slow.
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Hmm.
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Here's the twenty twenty five.
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I look forward to getting more engaged with
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no agenda nation.
2:08:04
I'm a sir, but I haven't been to
2:08:06
a meet up yet, which makes me a
2:08:08
different kind of douche bag.
2:08:09
But one none the same.
2:08:13
None the same.
2:08:13
Nonetheless, is really.
2:08:14
Yes, that's what I think it is.
2:08:15
Yes, I'll make it to the local Anchorage
2:08:19
meet up soon enough.
2:08:20
Anchorage.
2:08:21
Yes, Anchorage.
2:08:24
When's the best time to go see the
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Northern Lights spread love, not hate and outsource
2:08:29
everything else to Tyler Systems LLC.
2:08:33
Mate, reach out to Tyler at Tyler Systems
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dot com or wait to be reminded during
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another executive producer note.
2:08:41
The folks that reached out first are already
2:08:44
getting lower prices.
2:08:47
Put a shirt on and pick up the
2:08:49
slack.
2:08:50
Producers cam stays off.
2:08:54
What kind of what kind of outfit is
2:08:56
Tyler running?
2:08:58
I don't know, but it sounds like zooms
2:09:00
involved.
2:09:01
Happy New Year.
2:09:01
He writes Sir Tyler in Alaska.
2:09:03
I got to get ahold of him.
2:09:05
He's does some stuff.
2:09:06
Baronet Craig Allen in the Sakaton, Arizona.
2:09:12
Second, you better set Sakaton Sakaton in the
2:09:15
morning, gents.
2:09:16
I want to start off the new year
2:09:17
properly.
2:09:18
Can I get a cicada cicada cicada?
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Maybe I don't know.
2:09:22
I want to start the new year off
2:09:23
properly.
2:09:24
Can I get a health, stability and financial
2:09:26
achievement karma for me and my loved ones?
2:09:28
And of course, for the longevity of the
2:09:29
greatest podcast in the universe.
2:09:31
Have a good start of the new year,
2:09:33
says Baronet Craig Allen.
2:09:34
That means we need to add in a
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service goat for you.
2:09:37
You've got karma.
2:09:41
Now we have an anonymous from Charlotte, North
2:09:44
Carolina, with three thirty three.
2:09:46
And he sent in a check and a
2:09:48
note on a sheet of paper.
2:09:51
This roof, I'm sticking it around.
2:09:54
He's got he sent a picture of a
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gas.
2:10:01
A gas thing that you fill tanks with.
2:10:05
What's it called?
2:10:05
A gas pump.
2:10:06
The gas called a gas pump.
2:10:08
The gas pump.
2:10:09
And the price on the premium was three
2:10:12
thirty three.
2:10:13
So there you go.
2:10:14
The reason to donate.
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Yes, always.
2:10:17
Note anonymous.
2:10:18
A longtime boner.
2:10:20
First time donor.
2:10:23
The three thirty three a gallon on the
2:10:25
gas pump was a sign I needed to
2:10:28
step up and donate.
2:10:31
I have listened to your show since 2011.
2:10:34
Thanks, Jerry B, for hitting me in the
2:10:36
mouth before I went to the university.
2:10:40
Your media deconstruction show makes.
2:10:42
I'm sorry, show notes.
2:10:44
I got to know.
2:10:46
Here's what I've written.
2:10:47
It doesn't seem that hard.
2:10:49
Why?
2:10:50
I got the wrong reading glasses.
2:10:52
Oh, well, shall I read this one?
2:10:54
You get your correct.
2:10:55
Yeah, you might as well, because if the
2:10:57
other glass are on the other desk, you
2:10:59
go get them.
2:11:00
You go get them.
2:11:01
I have listened to your show since 2011.
2:11:03
Thanks, Jerry B, for hitting me in the
2:11:04
mouth before I went to university.
2:11:06
Your media deconstruction and show notes have helped
2:11:08
me make informed decisions and to craft my
2:11:11
own viewpoints on many topics throughout my adulthood.
2:11:13
Well, we are creating better citizens.
2:11:16
I credit the show with helping my wife
2:11:18
and I navigate the madness around the pandemic,
2:11:21
which led to our child starting his life
2:11:23
in 2020 with a level of normalcy compared
2:11:26
to others we have met whose children were
2:11:28
severely set back during that time.
2:11:30
Again, John, we are creating better citizens, better
2:11:34
human resources.
2:11:35
Good.
2:11:36
That means more to me than the donation.
2:11:38
Actually, I look forward to contributing more in.
2:11:41
Yes, I look forward to contributing more in
2:11:43
the new year.
2:11:44
Happy new year to you both.
2:11:45
I would like a Hot Pockets by Ayn
2:11:47
Rand jingle, if possible.
2:11:49
Well, it doesn't exist, but I'll see if
2:11:51
I can make it possible.
2:11:53
Hot Pockets by Ayn Rand.
2:11:54
There you go.
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There you go.
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I did it.
2:11:57
I did it.
2:11:58
You did.
2:11:59
You're great.
2:11:59
Spencer Pollock in Tulsa, Oklahoma, 25270 is our
2:12:05
first associate executive producer for the show.
2:12:08
It's a long segment, people, but this is
2:12:11
the end of the year.
2:12:13
Switcheroo, please credit to the hardest working mama
2:12:16
this side of Tulsa, Guantanamo Bay.
2:12:21
With the new home move and a baby
2:12:23
on the way due in June, we have
2:12:25
plenty to be grateful for since there's too
2:12:26
many things to get karma for.
2:12:28
Could you please play the shape-shifting Jews
2:12:32
jingle?
2:12:34
Merry Christmas, John and Adam.
2:12:36
Thanks for all the laughs and for being
2:12:37
our national public radio in the Pollock home.
2:12:41
And to the women who made the first
2:12:44
Tulsa No Agenda meetup happen, my smoking hot
2:12:46
wife, Merry Christmas and my sweet, uh, Merry
2:12:49
Christmas, my sweet forever love.
2:12:52
Guantanamo Bay.
2:12:54
Here we go.
2:13:13
You've got karma.
2:13:17
So we had a, talking about bay, B
2:13:19
-A-E is a pun, but we had
2:13:22
another discussion about the term dip at the
2:13:25
dinner table.
2:13:26
Oh yes, about dipping out.
2:13:28
So we had a bunch of, I had
2:13:30
a back and forth, you were CC'd on
2:13:32
most of them with this guy trying to
2:13:34
determine the history of this.
2:13:36
I did see some of that, yes.
2:13:38
Terminology.
2:13:39
And he finally determined that it was disparaging.
2:13:43
It was a disparaging term for people who
2:13:45
like sneak out of an event, they dip,
2:13:48
they dip out.
2:13:49
Yes.
2:13:50
And so that became a point of discussion
2:13:52
with Jay.
2:13:54
With the millennials.
2:13:55
The millennials, the lower and upper millennials.
2:13:59
Jay took the side that it's not disparaging
2:14:01
and that's bullcrap.
2:14:03
But yet her husband, Brennan and JC both
2:14:08
said, yeah, you know, it probably is disparaging.
2:14:11
Yes.
2:14:13
So the discussion will continue and then it
2:14:16
will end.
2:14:17
We appreciate this update.
2:14:20
I guess I could have not used it.
2:14:22
It's a long segment.
2:14:24
Make it longer, please.
2:14:26
Yeah.
2:14:26
Okay.
2:14:26
I'm sorry.
2:14:27
I tried to make it longer.
2:14:28
No, you interjected some content.
2:14:30
I appreciate it.
2:14:31
Jules Walters is in Snohomish, Washington.
2:14:34
Rowe Dux, Associate Executive Producer, credit for you,
2:14:37
222.22. Greetings, gents.
2:14:39
I'm just another millennial who was raised on
2:14:41
a steady diet of processed food and high
2:14:44
hopes that there's good people in high places
2:14:46
making smart decisions with my best interests at
2:14:48
heart.
2:14:49
And boy, was I wrong.
2:14:50
It turns out it's a scam.
2:14:54
I'll take a Chinese de-douching.
2:14:57
There's no such a thing as a Chinese
2:14:59
de-douching.
2:15:00
If you play it sideways, maybe.
2:15:02
How about if I do this?
2:15:06
You've been de-douched.
2:15:09
Try that out.
2:15:11
Jingles, A-Team, life is a scam.
2:15:12
They're eating the dogs followed by some of
2:15:14
that dank millennial karma.
2:15:16
Cheers from Jules.
2:15:17
There's a need for a rescue mission when
2:15:19
the world is threatened.
2:15:20
The world needs help.
2:15:22
It calls on America.
2:15:29
And that's the story.
2:15:31
Life is a scam.
2:15:33
They're eating the dogs.
2:15:36
You've got karma.
2:15:38
Nice.
2:15:40
Netson Muffet Mullins in East Lake, Ohio, 212
2:15:45
.72. Dear John and Adam, thank you for
2:15:47
the best podcast in the universe.
2:15:49
Please call out Chris as a douchebag.
2:15:54
Requesting a Hot Pockets karma.
2:15:57
And if you need a car, a truck,
2:15:59
go see Cal and his dog, Spot.
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Smock, smock.
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Hot Pockets.
2:16:09
Eli the Coffee Guy checks in from Bensonville,
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Illinois.
2:16:12
He's always on the show, 212.29. And
2:16:16
he says, as the season 2024 in America
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comes to a close, we're left with plenty
2:16:20
of great cliffhangers.
2:16:22
And 2025 promises to be jam-packed full
2:16:25
of action and excitement.
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Happy New Year to all, says Eli the
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Coffee Guy.
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Followed by Linda Lipatkin in Lakewood, Colorado, $200.
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Happy New Year.
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Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.
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Let's vote for jobs.
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Sarah Creedle is in East Wenatchee, help me
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out.
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Wenatchee.
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Wenatchee, Washington.
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ITM boys, Sarah the Web Babe here.
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John, thank you for your enthusiastic read of
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my last notes.
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You really put the C in ad copy.
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I'd like to credit this donation to my
2:17:34
smoking hot husband, Zach, who hit me in
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the mouth in July of 2020.
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The show has kept us sane and entertained.
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Now that's a read.
2:18:13
Yeah, it was.
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You read it.
2:18:15
A Dame Toni Helfst in Fort Worth, Texas.
2:18:23
200 bucks and she'll be our last Associate
2:18:24
Executive Producer.
2:18:28
Although...
2:18:28
I think Sir Donald...
2:18:30
I did the math.
2:18:32
He's from Candanavia.
2:18:36
There seems to be a missing donation here.
2:18:38
What are you missing?
2:18:43
Well, it's...
2:18:45
He knows, I know, we both know.
2:18:46
I have to go look into it.
2:18:48
It'll be on the next show, I guess.
2:18:49
Okay.
2:18:50
Dame Toni Helfst in Fort Worth.
2:18:53
I sent this donation using Stripe instead of
2:18:55
my usual snail mail check because Episode 1724
2:18:59
was so darned entertaining.
2:19:03
What were we doing in that episode?
2:19:06
I don't know.
2:19:06
I was laughing so hard at the bird
2:19:09
flu lady.
2:19:10
Oh, yes.
2:19:10
That's what we were doing.
2:19:12
Bird flu lady.
2:19:14
Yeah, the bird flu lady.
2:19:15
The tears were rolling down my face.
2:19:18
I had to listen twice.
2:19:20
Please switcheroo this to my son, Brian Helfst.
2:19:25
He's almost a knight.
2:19:26
Thanks again for the entertainment.
2:19:28
From one boomer to another two boomers.
2:19:32
Dame Toni Helfst.
2:19:34
Now, I'm looking at this donation from Sir
2:19:37
Donald of Calgary and I know the Candanavian
2:19:40
dollar rate is so bad.
2:19:42
I think he donated $200 Candanavian and then
2:19:46
it turns out to be $147.91. Oh.
2:19:51
Are you in on that?
2:19:52
Because I just want to read some of
2:19:53
his note because he sent a note that
2:19:55
was way too long.
2:19:56
Well, the reason also, he says, it's been
2:19:57
a challenging time in my family this year
2:19:59
as my dad has been sick with cancer
2:20:01
and he will be leaving soon.
2:20:02
So please send me and my family some
2:20:04
F-cancer karma.
2:20:06
As I'd already been looking to make a
2:20:07
change a couple months ago, I completed the
2:20:09
sale of my condo in Calgary and moved
2:20:11
back home to hated rival city, Edmonton, to
2:20:14
stay at my folks place to be there
2:20:16
to help out as best I can.
2:20:17
My older brothers have helped with organizing my
2:20:19
dad's treatment and care.
2:20:21
So he sends a very long note, a
2:20:23
lot of stuff about Trudeau in there.
2:20:25
We know it's a mess.
2:20:26
He'll probably go soon.
2:20:27
So here is the F-cancer and some
2:20:30
karma for your dad and for you and
2:20:31
your brothers.
2:20:36
You've got karma.
2:20:40
And that wraps up our executive and associate
2:20:42
executive producers for episode 1725 of the best
2:20:46
podcast in the universe.
2:20:47
We appreciate you very much.
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Remember, these are credits that are for a
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And thank you again for supporting us for
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episode 1725.
2:21:14
Our formula is this.
2:21:16
We go out.
2:21:17
We hit people in the mouth.
2:21:34
Right, right.
2:21:37
There's some Florida news.
2:21:40
Florida news.
2:21:42
Florida man in the news.
2:21:44
So here's Sheriff Grady.
2:21:46
Does a press conference about shooting carjackers.
2:21:52
Oh, because he was given grief by the
2:21:55
press, who thought it was bad that some
2:21:56
carjacker was shot.
2:21:58
They'd rather have the carjacker, I guess, jack
2:22:00
cars.
2:22:01
Sure.
2:22:02
If you're not allowed to use deadly force
2:22:03
for property, why do you say he would
2:22:05
have been justified in killing him?
2:22:06
First off, he tried a carjacking with a
2:22:08
lady and then he was doing a burglary
2:22:11
of a vehicle and he was in the
2:22:14
string of a group of felonies at the
2:22:16
time.
2:22:16
When you start trying to carjack somebody's car
2:22:19
at a gas station, your subject gets shot
2:22:21
and shot a lot.
2:22:22
Did he have a weapon?
2:22:23
She doesn't have to have a weapon, brother.
2:22:25
You can carjack with just pure violence and
2:22:28
force.
2:22:29
You don't think that's a dangerous message you're
2:22:30
putting out?
2:22:31
That is an absolute correct message I'm putting
2:22:33
out to Polk County citizens.
2:22:34
You try to break into somebody's car and
2:22:36
steal it while they're there with it.
2:22:38
That's called armed carjacking.
2:22:40
The attorneys would disagree with you, but you're
2:22:42
the sheriff, so.
2:22:43
If you come to this county and if
2:22:45
you use extreme violence to try to carjack
2:22:48
somebody from their car, if you get shot,
2:22:51
that's on you.
2:22:54
So I thought that was good because this
2:22:56
is like, you know, the way these sheriffs
2:22:58
should be.
2:22:58
But then it turns out that's not uncommon
2:23:01
in Florida.
2:23:01
This is the second clip from a guy
2:23:03
in Brandonton, another completely different part of the
2:23:06
state, giving the same message.
2:23:09
It happened around nine o'clock last night
2:23:11
on Hickory Hammock Circle in Bradenton.
2:23:13
Deputies say surveillance video shows two men trying
2:23:16
to get in through the back of the
2:23:17
home.
2:23:18
Now, they say the homeowner saw it happening,
2:23:20
got his gun and fired at least three
2:23:23
shots.
2:23:23
A bullet hit one of the men.
2:23:25
That man later died in the hospital.
2:23:27
A canine deputy found the other suspect a
2:23:29
few blocks away and he is in jail
2:23:31
this noon.
2:23:33
I praise this husband for doing what he
2:23:36
needed to do to protect his home and
2:23:38
protect his family.
2:23:40
And if you're going to be that brazen
2:23:41
to come into my home, once again, you
2:23:44
should expect that you're going to be shot.
2:23:47
Wow.
2:23:47
Wow.
2:23:48
Sounds like a Texan.
2:23:49
Although you never hear Greg Abbott say that.
2:23:53
He's not like that.
2:23:55
The states vary.
2:23:57
They do.
2:23:58
In California, if you would have shots, that
2:24:00
guy got shot trying to get to his
2:24:01
house.
2:24:04
You have to, they allow you to get
2:24:06
robbed.
2:24:06
There are two clips I need to play
2:24:08
because they are in play.
2:24:10
You probably heard about this.
2:24:13
If you are in this country illegally and
2:24:16
you committed a crime by entering the country,
2:24:18
you should be uncomfortable.
2:24:20
You should look over your shoulder and you
2:24:22
need to be worried.
2:24:24
With the recent rise in immigration arrests, Mexican
2:24:27
nationals have been given a new emergency resource.
2:24:31
Eyewitness News reporter Elisa Nieves shows us how
2:24:33
it works.
2:24:34
The free app Mi Consul Max now has
2:24:37
an emergency button where users can call or
2:24:40
text to get an immediate response from a
2:24:42
consulate officer.
2:24:43
While the app is designed for Mexican nationals,
2:24:46
the Consul General of Mexico in San Antonio
2:24:48
says they will also respond to cases of
2:24:50
undocumented immigrants facing deportation.
2:24:53
Relative that is missing when someone is apprehended
2:24:57
and they don't have access to an attorney
2:24:59
or to some legal help.
2:25:01
Also when they're experiencing some abuse in the
2:25:05
use of force, for example, of some authorities.
2:25:07
The button launched last month.
2:25:09
Spreading Consul Torres says the need for the
2:25:11
consulate's immediate assistance grew more than 100%
2:25:15
since this time last year.
2:25:17
People want to know about their legal cases.
2:25:20
They want to receive information on their migratory
2:25:23
status.
2:25:24
Immigration attorney Lance Curtright says anytime an undocumented
2:25:27
immigrant is arrested, they have the right to
2:25:30
notify the consulate.
2:25:31
The app just expedites that service.
2:25:34
And just think of it from our perspective,
2:25:36
if you are a US citizen and you're
2:25:37
abroad, you'd want, and you got arrested, you'd
2:25:39
want to be able to talk to your
2:25:41
counsel right away.
2:25:42
That's all they're doing here.
2:25:43
And that's an appropriate thing to do.
2:25:45
Visit KENS5.com for more information on the
2:25:48
app and its services.
2:25:49
So you heard about this story?
2:25:51
Oh yeah, it's a great story.
2:25:53
This story that I just played, this clip
2:25:55
is seven years old.
2:25:58
It's out again.
2:26:00
They did this seven years ago.
2:26:03
Well, I heard this story just the other
2:26:05
day.
2:26:05
I know.
2:26:06
And I went searching for a story and
2:26:08
I'm like, wait a minute, they did this
2:26:10
story seven years ago.
2:26:14
Well, they're up to the same no good.
2:26:17
And then this clip is a must listen.
2:26:21
This explains everything you need to know about
2:26:24
the problems in Canada.
2:26:26
There's a lot of problems right now.
2:26:28
There's a lot of problems.
2:26:30
This particular problem is in Parliament, a chemistry
2:26:36
professor is complaining about the level of DEI
2:26:41
in grants for Canadian studies.
2:26:48
I found this to be fascinating.
2:26:50
And at the same time, makes a lot
2:26:53
of sense why Canada should really become the
2:26:55
51st state.
2:26:56
We can save you.
2:26:57
Adam Chair, committee members, thank you for inviting
2:27:00
me.
2:27:01
The Academy has become an echo chamber of
2:27:04
progressive social justice ideas.
2:27:06
And this is reflected in the federal research
2:27:08
granting process.
2:27:10
A previous witness noted a phenomenon described as
2:27:13
group polarization.
2:27:15
When ideological uniform groups lack dissenting voices, the
2:27:19
group often arrives at positions far more radical
2:27:22
than those of most individuals in the group.
2:27:26
Lack of viewpoint diversity diminishes research excellence.
2:27:30
As an example, the Journal of Chemical Education
2:27:33
published a paper titled a special topic class
2:27:37
in chemistry on feminism and science as a
2:27:40
tool to disrupt disconscious racism in STEM.
2:27:44
This paper described the development and interrelationship between
2:27:47
quantum mechanics, Marxist materialism, Afrofuturism, pessimism, and post
2:27:54
-colonial nationalism and attempted to problematize time as
2:27:58
a linear social construct.
2:28:00
Our government funded a research grant titled Decolonizing
2:28:04
Light, Tracing and Countering Colonialism in Contemporary Physics,
2:28:09
where the authors aim not to find new
2:28:11
or better explanations of light or seek scientific
2:28:14
truth, rather they plan to address the marginalization
2:28:17
of women, black people, and indigenous peoples for
2:28:20
social equity.
2:28:22
The Journal of Cogent Social Sciences published a
2:28:25
paper titled The Conceptual Penis as a Social
2:28:28
Construct in which the authors used post-structuralist
2:28:31
discursive criticism in the example of climate change
2:28:34
to argue that the conceptual penis is better
2:28:37
understood not as an anatomical organ but as
2:28:40
a social construct isomorphic to performative toxic masculinity.
2:28:58
It has to be two states, Eastern and
2:29:01
Western.
2:29:01
Yeah, but do we really want the French
2:29:03
part?
2:29:04
Probably, but they can keep it.
2:29:05
Why don't you let them go free?
2:29:08
Free them.
2:29:09
Free the French Canadians.
2:29:10
Free the French.
2:29:11
Free the French Canadians.
2:29:13
Yeah, so you have the two states, East
2:29:16
and West, and then you have French Canada,
2:29:18
which would be what's left of Canada.
2:29:21
And it'd be its own thing.
2:29:23
That would work out, I think.
2:29:24
Yeah.
2:29:26
I know the West and the East don't
2:29:27
get along, so that you can't just have
2:29:29
one big state.
2:29:31
So I think there's another op underway, another
2:29:33
anti-Russia op.
2:29:36
NATO, of course, is just beside themselves that
2:29:40
Trump is going to end this war.
2:29:43
And so we need to remember what Mark
2:29:46
Rutte said.
2:29:47
We need to have a war mindset.
2:29:50
A war mindset.
2:29:52
A war economy.
2:29:54
And so this story has been around, there
2:29:58
have been stories like it.
2:29:59
This is relatively short, just to set you
2:30:01
up for the NATO guy.
2:30:02
NATO is stepping up Navy patrols in the
2:30:04
Baltic Sea after Russia was accused of sabotaging
2:30:07
a major undersea power cable.
2:30:10
Finnish authorities are interviewing the crew of a
2:30:12
ship suspected of cutting the cable on Christmas
2:30:14
Day.
2:30:15
The line carries electricity between Finland and Estonia,
2:30:19
but it now sits at the bottom of
2:30:21
the Baltic.
2:30:22
Alexander Stubbe is Finland's president.
2:30:25
We've got the situation under control and we
2:30:28
have to continue work together vigilantly to make
2:30:32
sure that our critical infrastructure is not damaged
2:30:35
by outsiders.
2:30:37
It's too soon to draw conclusions yet why
2:30:40
this happened.
2:30:41
We know who did it.
2:30:43
Investigators believe the unmarked vessel belongs to Russia.
2:30:47
The Kremlin has declined to comment on the
2:30:49
accusation.
2:30:50
Since the start of Russia's war in Ukraine,
2:30:53
several cables have been cut in the Baltic
2:30:55
Sea.
2:30:55
So, this was, what was this on?
2:31:00
I can't remember what this was on.
2:31:01
This is a NATO spokeshole, not Mark Rutte,
2:31:05
of course.
2:31:05
This is American, I believe.
2:31:07
And he is now warning about unconventional threats
2:31:12
from Russia.
2:31:14
The brutality of Russia's war in Ukraine.
2:31:17
At France 24.
2:31:18
Is all too clear.
2:31:21
But Moscow is also accused of waging a
2:31:25
far more covert campaign of attacks against NATO
2:31:29
countries.
2:31:31
It means while life across much of the
2:31:34
rest of Europe, the US and Canada may
2:31:37
seem peaceful on the surface, Western officials warn
2:31:41
of a growing hidden threat.
2:31:44
Hidden threat.
2:31:44
And they say it's not only from cyber
2:31:47
attacks and online disinformation.
2:31:50
What's also new is the increase in sabotage
2:31:55
and assassination plots.
2:31:59
Arson, damage to infrastructure.
2:32:03
He heads a team updating a NATO strategy
2:32:06
to track and deter what's known as hybrid
2:32:09
warfare.
2:32:10
He says such attacks linked to Russia have
2:32:13
risen since the full-scale invasion of Ukraine.
2:32:16
If you're only strictly in the kinetic attack,
2:32:22
we can definitely count dozens up to 100
2:32:25
for sure.
2:32:26
We're in a little bit of a boiling
2:32:28
frog situation.
2:32:29
We are seeing now what would have been
2:32:31
utterly unacceptable five years ago.
2:32:33
But we've kind of gotten used to a
2:32:35
little bit more and a little bit more
2:32:36
and a little bit more.
2:32:37
And that's very dangerous.
2:32:39
So we want to establish a baseline now,
2:32:42
then prevent escalation, manage it if it happens.
2:32:46
But also work to de-escalate not to
2:32:49
where we are now, but to where we
2:32:51
were years ago.
2:32:52
So he's setting us up for this complete
2:32:54
overview of all the things that Russia, maybe
2:32:58
China, but probably Russia has been doing that
2:33:01
we've just been in the West, in Western
2:33:03
Europe, have just been sitting like frogs in
2:33:05
a boiling pot.
2:33:06
Who knew this hybrid warfare was taking place
2:33:09
the whole time?
2:33:10
Types of hostility include cyber attacks with literally
2:33:14
thousands happening every day, linked not just to
2:33:18
Russia, but also to China, Iran, and North
2:33:22
Korea.
2:33:23
London was the victim of a major cyber
2:33:25
hack last summer on hospital blood tests.
2:33:29
Then there are disinformation campaigns aimed, for example,
2:33:33
at political interference.
2:33:35
It's what Russia is suspected of doing during
2:33:38
a recent presidential election race in Romania.
2:33:41
Russian spies are also accused of physical attacks,
2:33:45
such as an attempt to assassinate the head
2:33:48
of a major German defense company.
2:33:51
And another big concern is a spike in
2:33:53
suspected Russian sabotage and arson, targeting undersea cables,
2:33:59
train lines, and warehouses linked to European support
2:34:03
to Ukraine.
2:34:04
They're everywhere.
2:34:06
It can't just be a failing of a
2:34:08
computer system.
2:34:10
It can't just be- Sounds like a
2:34:11
plot from an old movie from the 40s.
2:34:14
Yeah, well, it's the Red Scare.
2:34:15
That's what they're doing.
2:34:16
Oh, they're trying to assassinate German defense guys.
2:34:22
Doesn't ring really true to me.
2:34:25
No, especially when you know they could do
2:34:27
it if they wanted to.
2:34:28
Yes, easily.
2:34:31
I have a hack story from the Japan
2:34:33
Airlines thing, and it turns out, I guess
2:34:35
the Bank of Japan's been hacked too, which
2:34:38
didn't get much play.
2:34:39
Japan Airlines says its computer network has come
2:34:43
under cyber attack, causing problems with its baggage
2:34:47
management system.
2:34:48
JAL says the attack began shortly before 7
2:34:51
.30 Thursday morning.
2:34:53
The airliner says it expects the glitch to
2:34:57
affect both domestic and international flights, and that
2:35:01
some flights are already delayed.
2:35:03
The company says that as of 10.30
2:35:06
a.m., more than 10 flights leaving Tokyo's
2:35:09
Haneda Airport have been delayed by up to
2:35:12
around 50 minutes.
2:35:15
JAL says it deeply apologizes to customers and
2:35:18
others for the inconvenience.
2:35:21
We have breaking news, breaking news, breaking news
2:35:24
at this hour.
2:35:25
President Carter has died at the age of
2:35:27
100.
2:35:29
Well, he got to 100.
2:35:31
Let's roll out the retrospective.
2:35:33
Well, that'll- Chew up some news cycles.
2:35:37
Everyone has it ready.
2:35:39
Everyone's got one on the shelf.
2:35:40
Oh, yeah, of course they do.
2:35:41
Good to go.
2:35:42
What can we predict will be in the
2:35:44
- First of all, we'll have the word
2:35:46
peanut farmer.
2:35:47
That will definitely be in the retrospective.
2:35:50
Lots of building homes, habitat for humanity.
2:35:54
Yep, lots of that.
2:35:54
That'll be in there.
2:35:55
How about, didn't he have a drunk brother?
2:35:59
He won't be mentioned.
2:36:00
But didn't he have one, or was that
2:36:01
Clinton?
2:36:01
Yeah, yeah, Billy.
2:36:03
Billy Carter.
2:36:04
Billy Carter.
2:36:05
Billy Beer, he had his own beer label.
2:36:07
Matter of fact, you remember.
2:36:08
Billy Beer will not be mentioned in the
2:36:10
retrospective, which is too bad, which is too
2:36:12
bad.
2:36:14
Who else should be in there?
2:36:16
What else, what else should be in there?
2:36:17
There has to be the Iranian- Oh,
2:36:19
yes.
2:36:20
Hostage crisis, which got kicked out.
2:36:22
Yep, yep, yep, the hostage crisis.
2:36:24
I don't know of anything else.
2:36:26
And, well, they will also talk about Rosalyn.
2:36:30
Got to talk about Rosalyn.
2:36:33
That was his wife, wasn't it?
2:36:34
Rosalyn?
2:36:34
Yeah, Rosalyn, yeah.
2:36:36
I don't know what to talk about her,
2:36:39
what she had to do with- Well,
2:36:40
just mention her, like a brief mention.
2:36:44
And then they will show, didn't Bill, who
2:36:48
visited them?
2:36:49
Was it, no, Biden and Jill.
2:36:52
Yeah.
2:36:52
Yeah, they visited them, so they'll show that.
2:36:54
All right, that's it.
2:36:55
That's done, your retrospective.
2:36:56
Rest in peace, Jimmy Carter.
2:36:58
Yeah, we did it, we did it here.
2:36:59
Rest in peace.
2:36:59
I have another hacker clip that's been sitting
2:37:01
around.
2:37:02
You have to go look it up in
2:37:02
the archive.
2:37:04
Okay.
2:37:04
I forgot to move it over.
2:37:06
All right.
2:37:07
S-A-L-Y.
2:37:09
Yes.
2:37:10
In all caps, you should find it.
2:37:12
Yes, I have it.
2:37:13
A Chinese state bank hacking operation causing a
2:37:16
stir on Capitol Hill.
2:37:17
Lawmakers today investigate what one senator has called
2:37:20
the worst telecom hack in our nation's history.
2:37:24
This comes after the White House warns that
2:37:26
millions of Americans' personal information could be at
2:37:29
risk.
2:37:30
Oh, yeah.
2:37:30
Currently, our communities, our schools, hospitals, our libraries,
2:37:35
our police departments, and emergency responders do not
2:37:39
have the resources to defend themselves against foreign
2:37:43
adversaries.
2:37:44
The salt typhoon hacks that were discovered last
2:37:47
month demonstrate that even the largest corporations in
2:37:51
the United States are vulnerable.
2:37:53
U.S. officials last month unveiled a stealthy
2:37:56
cyber espionage campaign titled Salt Typhoon.
2:37:59
The operation has reportedly compromised at least eight
2:38:02
major telecom networks, including Verizon, AT&T, and
2:38:06
T-Mobile.
2:38:07
According to the FBI, Salt Typhoon enables Beijing
2:38:10
to tap into Americans' phone calls and text
2:38:12
messages.
2:38:13
President-elect Trump, Senator J.D. Vance, and
2:38:16
Vice President Kamala Harris are all victims of
2:38:18
this campaign.
2:38:20
Salt Typhoon has been acting for roughly two
2:38:22
years, but the full extent of damages it
2:38:25
has caused remain unknown till this day.
2:38:28
Lawmakers recommended several countermeasures, including getting companies with
2:38:32
ties to China out of American networks.
2:38:37
Yeah, that's it.
2:38:39
Everything, everything China has got to go.
2:38:41
Your air fryer.
2:38:43
Got to get them out of the networks.
2:38:45
Got to get the TikTok on wings, the
2:38:47
drones.
2:38:47
Everything China has got to go, has got
2:38:49
to go.
2:38:50
So the big story that's not reported, I
2:38:51
don't, I should have a clip, but I
2:38:53
never got one, which is the fact that
2:38:56
Huawei, which would be a great investment if
2:38:59
it wasn't privately held in China by the
2:39:02
government, came out with their, and Huawei is
2:39:05
a huge phone, cell phone maker.
2:39:08
Yes, and switches for the cell phone networks,
2:39:11
everything.
2:39:12
And that, but they also make phones and
2:39:14
they make good phones.
2:39:15
The phones are dynamite.
2:39:17
They used to show them here in the
2:39:19
States and they banned them.
2:39:21
Yep.
2:39:21
They've dropped Android and they've come up with
2:39:24
their own operating system.
2:39:25
Yes.
2:39:26
Yes.
2:39:27
That's a bigger deal than people would, this
2:39:29
story's not played.
2:39:30
No.
2:39:31
It's a huge deal.
2:39:32
They announced it, I think a few, like
2:39:34
a month ago or something.
2:39:35
A couple of weeks ago.
2:39:36
I think it was a while ago.
2:39:37
It's based, it was, it's an, isn't it
2:39:38
based on a, an Android derivative, like Graphene
2:39:42
OS or something?
2:39:43
I'm not sure where it came from.
2:39:45
I don't think so.
2:39:45
But you can do it.
2:39:47
But why would you want to use Android?
2:39:49
Screw them.
2:39:49
No, I mean, you look at the Nokia
2:39:52
phones, they're using, what's that other OS called?
2:39:57
They used to use Symbian.
2:40:00
What happened to that?
2:40:01
Symbian's open source.
2:40:02
Just no one will ever do anything with
2:40:04
it.
2:40:05
What is that?
2:40:06
What is the flip phone Nokia operating system?
2:40:11
It's a, it's a, it's a funky one,
2:40:13
but it works pretty well.
2:40:14
It's a Kai OS.
2:40:16
There you go.
2:40:16
Kai OS.
2:40:18
But I think Kai OS got investment from
2:40:20
Google and everyone considers them to be compromised.
2:40:23
Compromised.
2:40:24
Compromised, I tell you.
2:40:25
Hey, I mean, I hate to be morbid
2:40:27
about it, but it would be kind of
2:40:28
interesting if they claimed that Jimmy Carter finally
2:40:30
died of bird flu.
2:40:33
It would really help the cause.
2:40:35
They're not going to be able to pull
2:40:36
that one off.
2:40:37
I'm going to get to your TikTok clips
2:40:39
in a moment.
2:40:40
Everybody waits for it.
2:40:41
We're so excited.
2:40:41
But first, this important report from the world
2:40:43
of chess.
2:40:45
The Norwegian chess grandmaster Magnus Carlsen has quit
2:40:50
a world tournament in New York after the
2:40:53
game's governing body said he could not carry
2:40:55
on playing wearing jeans.
2:40:57
He was given the opportunity to change into
2:40:59
smarter trousers, but refused using offensive language.
2:41:04
Paul Moss reports.
2:41:05
He's always been considered a maverick in the
2:41:07
chess world.
2:41:08
Magnus Carlsen certainly shifted the image of chess
2:41:11
grandmasters, often seen as introverted or geeky.
2:41:15
He, by contrast, was famed for his alcohol
2:41:18
capacity, earning the nickname Dr. Drunkenstein.
2:41:22
Mr. Carlsen also tends to dress more stylishly
2:41:24
than his opponents.
2:41:26
And at the Rapid Chess Tournament in New
2:41:28
York, he refused a demand to wear smart
2:41:31
trousers.
2:41:32
Warned he'd be kicked out unless he changed
2:41:34
out of jeans immediately.
2:41:36
Magnus Carlsen's response was rather direct.
2:41:39
They can enforce their rules.
2:41:42
That's fine by me.
2:41:43
And my response is then I'm out like
2:41:46
you.
2:41:47
This is not Magnus Carlsen's first controversy.
2:41:50
He once accused an opponent of having radio
2:41:53
controlled objects inserted in a certain bodily orifice,
2:41:57
signaling which move to make.
2:41:59
That matter was eventually resolved.
2:42:01
But Mr. Carlsen's sartorial choices look set to
2:42:05
remain a running sore in the world of
2:42:07
chess.
2:42:08
I think the chess game has just gotten
2:42:10
interesting to watch.
2:42:11
I think my clip has got more information
2:42:14
that's a little more interesting.
2:42:15
Oh, you have a clip about Dr. Drunkenstein?
2:42:18
It doesn't discuss that.
2:42:20
It discusses the fact that nobody can beat
2:42:21
this guy.
2:42:22
Chess champ.
2:42:24
The world's top chess player, Magnus Carlsen, quit
2:42:28
the World Rapid Chess Championship in New York
2:42:30
today after he was told to change out
2:42:33
of his jeans to abide by a dress
2:42:35
code.
2:42:35
The Norwegian chess grandmaster was fined $200 yesterday
2:42:40
and given a warning by the International Chess
2:42:42
Federation to change the clothes or be disqualified.
2:42:46
He told the chess channel Take, Take, Take.
2:42:49
He was told he had to change immediately,
2:42:51
so he quit.
2:42:51
And he says he won't appeal the decision.
2:42:54
Quitting means the 34-year-old, who became
2:42:56
a grandmaster at 13, won't be able to
2:42:59
defend his title in the World Blitz Championship,
2:43:02
where he's a seven-time champ.
2:43:03
Wait a minute.
2:43:04
There's a chess channel?
2:43:07
Seven-time champ at this event.
2:43:10
They kicked him out, obviously, for the reason
2:43:12
he's going to win again.
2:43:13
This is bullcrap.
2:43:15
There's controversy in the chess world.
2:43:20
And he was a grandmaster at 13?
2:43:23
That's amazing.
2:43:24
That's a smart kid.
2:43:27
Hey, you ready?
2:43:30
Well, let's do a prelim.
2:43:32
There's a lot of, you know, I've decided
2:43:34
or I noticed a lot of my talk
2:43:36
clips, and I call them talk, are actually
2:43:39
from elsewhere.
2:43:40
Let me just set you up here.
2:43:42
We need to have the jingle to get
2:43:43
everyone ready.
2:43:50
And I've also noticed something.
2:43:53
Most of the people in a lot of
2:43:54
these clips have nose rings.
2:43:59
It's a thing these days.
2:44:01
People have nose rings.
2:44:02
And I think the nose ring is subconsciously
2:44:06
announcing to the world that you like to
2:44:09
be led around by the nose, because that's
2:44:11
the same kind of a ring that a
2:44:13
cow would have.
2:44:14
Yes.
2:44:14
And so you're actually saying to the public,
2:44:17
even though you don't even know it, probably,
2:44:18
it's subconscious.
2:44:19
You're saying, I'd like to be led around
2:44:22
by the nose.
2:44:24
So my opinions of things are actually somebody
2:44:27
else's.
2:44:28
I'm being led to say these things.
2:44:29
I honestly believe that to be true.
2:44:32
Excellent analysis.
2:44:33
I cannot refute that.
2:44:35
And so all these clips today are people
2:44:37
with nose rings.
2:44:38
Let's start with this is not from this
2:44:40
doesn't say this one is Cal, C-A
2:44:42
-L, pronoun rapist.
2:44:44
A convicted criminal who served time at the
2:44:46
women's prison in Chowchilla is charged with raping
2:44:49
fellow inmates.
2:44:50
A Madera County judge says Tremaine Carroll must
2:44:52
be referred to with she her pronouns.
2:44:55
But the district attorney is pushing back because
2:44:58
the 52-year-old Carroll is a biological
2:45:00
male and the decision could impact the pursuit
2:45:03
of justice.
2:45:05
Court records show Carroll was convicted in Los
2:45:07
Angeles County in 1993 for aggravated kidnapping for
2:45:10
the purpose of ransom or to commit another
2:45:12
crime.
2:45:13
Carroll is now serving time in a men's
2:45:15
prison as this rape case moves forward.
2:45:17
Action News reporter Brianna Willis spoke with the
2:45:19
district attorney about the potential impact of the
2:45:22
pronoun ruling.
2:45:25
A Madera County judge ruled this week 52
2:45:28
-year-old state prisoner Tremaine Carroll must be
2:45:31
referred to with she her pronouns because Carroll
2:45:34
identifies as a woman.
2:45:36
But the district attorney believes the defendant is
2:45:38
abusing the system.
2:45:39
This is a person who's not a woman
2:45:41
in any sense of the word.
2:45:42
In March, D.A. Sally Moreno charged Carroll
2:45:45
for rape allegedly committed while incarcerated at the
2:45:48
Central California women's facility in Chowchilla.
2:45:51
After his first cellmate became pregnant and was
2:45:53
moved to Los Angeles, two other cellmates of
2:45:57
his complained that he had raped them.
2:45:59
So we have filed rape charges against this
2:46:02
inmate.
2:46:03
Moreno says the ruling regarding pronouns impacts her
2:46:06
ability to prosecute the case.
2:46:08
This is a particular issue in this case
2:46:10
because it's confusing to the jury.
2:46:13
In California, rape is a crime that has
2:46:15
to be accomplished by a man.
2:46:18
Supervising Deputy D.A. Eric Dutemple says it's
2:46:21
also unfair to the victims.
2:46:23
It's just absolutely insane that a victim would
2:46:27
have to get on the stand and police
2:46:28
their pronouns and their usage when trying to
2:46:31
recite one of the most scariest times in
2:46:32
their lives.
2:46:33
Carroll was allowed to serve time in a
2:46:35
women's prison despite being a biological male because
2:46:38
of Senate Bill 132, the Transgender Respect Agency
2:46:42
and Dignity Act, which took effect in 2021.
2:46:46
Wow.
2:46:48
I'm going to change my opinion of making
2:46:52
Canada the 51st state.
2:46:54
I think we should give California to Canada.
2:46:58
Yeah, well, I can see that conceptual penis.
2:47:01
Oh, man.
2:47:02
Yeah.
2:47:03
Isn't that unbelievable?
2:47:04
The Senate bill, it was makes it.
2:47:06
So this guy, all you have to say
2:47:07
is you're a woman.
2:47:08
You have to put you in a woman's
2:47:09
prison.
2:47:09
This is unbelievably stupid.
2:47:11
But that's California.
2:47:12
So let's listen to TikTok clips.
2:47:14
These are the more this is.
2:47:16
Let's start with talk.
2:47:17
This is a guy, a guy with a
2:47:19
nose ring yakking away.
2:47:21
Me and my girlfriend were going to a
2:47:22
wine castle and we sat down for our
2:47:24
tasting.
2:47:25
And at first they were just very rude
2:47:27
and didn't really answer our questions.
2:47:30
And we didn't really feel welcome.
2:47:32
Our server said, yes, you had something to
2:47:34
say about my uptalk clips.
2:47:36
Holy moly.
2:47:37
Really feel welcome.
2:47:38
Our server said, yes, sir.
2:47:40
When I was asking some questions and I
2:47:42
said, oh, no, no, no, I'm actually not
2:47:44
a sir.
2:47:45
And instead of apologizing or I don't know
2:47:48
what else you would do other than apologize.
2:47:50
They just walked away, did not acknowledge what
2:47:53
I said, just walked away.
2:47:54
We saw the server like whispering to a
2:47:56
manager.
2:47:57
And a few minutes later, the manager came
2:47:58
over and, you know, really big smile, not
2:48:01
acknowledging at all that the misgender had happened.
2:48:04
And I say, hey, look, the last person
2:48:06
they misgendered me.
2:48:07
And that really hurt.
2:48:08
And they just walked away.
2:48:09
And the manager said, oh, well, some people
2:48:11
just aren't as progressive as you.
2:48:13
And then they gave us a nice little
2:48:14
chocolate that suggested they wanted our money, but
2:48:17
didn't want to say sorry.
2:48:18
So we left and got a full refund.
2:48:20
It's one thing to get misgendered and then
2:48:23
get an apology.
2:48:23
But it's another thing to get misgendered and
2:48:25
then be told that it's OK and not
2:48:28
to worry about it.
2:48:29
And here's a chocolate.
2:48:31
Again, this is narcissism at its peak in
2:48:36
culture.
2:48:38
It's all about me and how I feel
2:48:40
and how I want to identify.
2:48:42
And look at my nose ring.
2:48:44
Yeah, this guy had one, too.
2:48:46
Yeah, it's it's sad.
2:48:48
And these people need help.
2:48:50
And here we had now this one is
2:48:52
a carryover from the last show.
2:48:54
I resisted playing it.
2:48:56
This is another woman.
2:48:57
And I believe she has a nose ring.
2:49:00
And she has just this is the only
2:49:02
way I can describe this clip is this
2:49:03
is just loony ramblings.
2:49:06
Good news.
2:49:07
It doesn't matter who you voted for.
2:49:09
If you really thought Trump was going to
2:49:11
have your back and you're disappointed.
2:49:13
Here's the good news, guys.
2:49:15
Apparently, Amendment 14, Article three states that Trump
2:49:19
is technically disqualified because he was found guilty
2:49:23
of an attempted insertion.
2:49:25
This wonderful attempt at what insertion and attempted
2:49:30
an attempted insertion.
2:49:32
Yes, he was found guilty, by the way,
2:49:35
of this attempted insertion states that Trump is
2:49:39
technically disqualified because he was found guilty of
2:49:42
an attempted insertion.
2:49:45
This wonderful, brilliant young woman posted it this
2:49:48
morning.
2:49:48
And I don't remember her name, but I
2:49:50
reposted it.
2:49:53
If this is so, I know it's the
2:49:54
holiday season.
2:49:57
But whomever has these skills, community organizers, if
2:50:02
you could please make it super easy for
2:50:04
all of us.
2:50:05
No excuse to email, call our representatives to
2:50:11
demand an amnesty act to avoid Vice President
2:50:16
Trump from taking office.
2:50:18
Vice President.
2:50:19
And Trump, listen, you've never been my favorite
2:50:21
person.
2:50:22
Did she say Vice President Trump?
2:50:23
Yeah, that's exactly what she said to avoid
2:50:28
Vice President Trump from taking office.
2:50:32
And Trump, listen, you've never been my favorite
2:50:34
person.
2:50:36
You're you're a person.
2:50:37
You're somebody's father, grandfather.
2:50:39
But I never understood why he's so hateful.
2:50:45
But and I understand that you were afraid
2:50:47
to go to jail.
2:50:48
So you sold your soul.
2:50:49
Listen, it's scary.
2:50:51
You've been rich, a white rich man your
2:50:53
whole life to suddenly go to jail.
2:50:55
You sold your soul.
2:50:57
But here's the thing.
2:50:58
It's not a good look.
2:50:59
You've kind of regressed.
2:51:00
And even you deserve better.
2:51:02
Your father was an abusive narcissist.
2:51:05
And here you are once again being made
2:51:08
to look small by this narcissistic, abusive billionaire
2:51:15
who is pulling your strings because he bought
2:51:17
you your freedom.
2:51:21
And he is now president.
2:51:23
And it's it's really pathetic.
2:51:24
You deserve better.
2:51:26
Well, this is a fine case of what
2:51:28
you say being yourself narcissistic.
2:51:32
Why else would this loony go on TikTok
2:51:34
to ramble like this?
2:51:36
I just baffled by every time I get
2:51:39
one of these clips.
2:51:41
What is I wish it would be even
2:51:44
better.
2:51:45
Ever felt the urge to go on one
2:51:48
on one, have a camera in your car.
2:51:50
By the way, these are always in somebody's
2:51:52
car.
2:51:52
This is because that's your that's your personal
2:51:54
narcissist studio.
2:51:56
It's your little studio.
2:51:57
Yeah.
2:51:58
And have you ever found the urges to
2:52:00
go on and ramble about something like, you
2:52:03
know, your personal gripe about the day or
2:52:05
so?
2:52:06
I mean, it's just beyond me.
2:52:07
I just completely it's baffling.
2:52:11
That's why I get these clips because I
2:52:12
just like, wow, what happened here?
2:52:15
I'm still stuck on attempted insertion, to be
2:52:18
honest.
2:52:20
Attempted insertion.
2:52:22
Yeah, he was found guilty of attempting.
2:52:22
Oh, there's so much food, but don't I
2:52:24
have to know a gender?
2:52:25
Imagine all the people who could do that.
2:52:27
Oh, yeah, that'd be fab.
2:52:29
Yeah, I'll know a gender in the morning.
2:52:36
You were going to say something?
2:52:37
He was found guilty of attempted.
2:52:39
Attempted insertion.
2:52:40
That's right.
2:52:41
I mean, that goes perfectly with the end
2:52:43
of show mix about the erection that he
2:52:46
that he did.
2:52:47
Yeah, that guy did the end of show
2:52:49
mix as an erection clip where they got
2:52:51
so I didn't half of these.
2:52:53
I never heard.
2:52:54
Yeah, they're good.
2:52:54
I thought I heard most of them.
2:52:56
Yeah, the January 6 erection.
2:52:58
Yes, we are here to thank the rest
2:53:01
of our producers.
2:53:02
Fifty dollars and above is still on the
2:53:04
way.
2:53:04
We do have the end of show mix.
2:53:05
We have a couple of title upgrades and,
2:53:07
of course, the tip of the day.
2:53:09
Everyone's very excited about it.
2:53:10
John, take us through the 50s, if you
2:53:11
don't mind.
2:53:12
Yes.
2:53:13
Let's start off with MSR in Germantown, Wisconsin.
2:53:19
One hundred and fifty dollars.
2:53:20
Then we have Sir Donald, which you already
2:53:22
did.
2:53:23
Dame Danny and Sir Jeff in Mount Shasta.
2:53:26
One, two, three, four, five.
2:53:29
And these people are always wishing us Happy
2:53:31
New Year, by the way.
2:53:32
All of them.
2:53:34
Hedy in Hedy.
2:53:35
Little Hedy in Truckee, California.
2:53:37
One seventeen fifty four.
2:53:39
Hedy.
2:53:41
This amounts in homage to RFK's upcoming birthday,
2:53:45
which is one seventeen fifty four.
2:53:49
That's what she gave us.
2:53:50
One seventeen fifty four.
2:53:52
Interesting.
2:53:53
She used to donate to KPFA, but got
2:53:57
wise and that gives us.
2:53:58
And by the way, the same thing should
2:54:00
be said about PBS.
2:54:04
Eric Reinhardt in San Antonio, Texas.
2:54:06
One oh five thirty five.
2:54:08
Dame Dane in Binnington, Czechoslovakia, Czech Republic.
2:54:13
I think that's not Switzerland.
2:54:15
Sorry.
2:54:15
That's Switzerland.
2:54:16
She's in Switzerland.
2:54:18
Ninety two seventy two with a Happy New
2:54:22
Year.
2:54:23
McKenna in Hutchinson, Kansas.
2:54:26
Eighty four thirty eight.
2:54:29
Kevin McLaughlin.
2:54:30
There he is finally.
2:54:30
Eight oh oh eight.
2:54:31
He's the Archduke of Luna, lover of America
2:54:33
and boobs.
2:54:34
And that is a boob donation, along with
2:54:36
Christian Grulish in Winter Haven, Florida, with eight
2:54:39
oh oh eight.
2:54:40
And Jonathan Rupert in Oakland, California.
2:54:45
Who's eight oh oh eight and wish wishing
2:54:47
his smoking hot wife, Baroness Sarah.
2:54:52
A happy birthday.
2:54:53
Jorge Alvarez in Ponte Verde Beach, Florida.
2:54:57
Seventy one seventy one.
2:54:58
Craig Kohler in Evansville, Indiana.
2:55:01
Sixty five oh two, which is a chip.
2:55:06
James Buell in Vista, California.
2:55:08
Six oh oh six.
2:55:11
Edward Bala Bala Bala and Cork.
2:55:14
He's in Cork, Ireland.
2:55:16
Fifty six seventy eight.
2:55:18
Surprise in the Yukon, Oklahoma.
2:55:20
Fifty four forty four.
2:55:21
Kevin Adam in Clover, South Carolina.
2:55:24
Fifty two seventy two.
2:55:27
Carney Woodland in Worthington, Ohio.
2:55:30
Fifty two seventy two.
2:55:32
This is a switcheroo donation for her smoking
2:55:35
hot husband, Doug.
2:55:37
And he needs a de-douching.
2:55:40
You've been de-douched.
2:55:42
David Hudson in Lombard, Illinois.
2:55:44
Fifty two seventy two.
2:55:45
It was a reminder to tip your garbage
2:55:47
man.
2:55:48
That's right.
2:55:48
I did.
2:55:49
I did it before we left.
2:55:51
You did now.
2:55:51
I always tip the garbage man.
2:55:53
How do you do this?
2:55:54
What was the mechanism?
2:55:55
Did you run out there at five in
2:55:56
the morning when they came up to pick
2:55:58
up the garbage?
2:55:58
How'd you do this?
2:55:59
Well, as you know, we have a private
2:56:01
garbage pickup because we are unincorporated.
2:56:05
And so we have our dudes from Gillespie
2:56:08
County Waste Management.
2:56:10
And I ran out there at eight.
2:56:13
Forty five is when they come and pick
2:56:14
it up.
2:56:14
And he got out of his truck and
2:56:16
I complimented his big truck.
2:56:18
He has a new truck.
2:56:19
And by the way, if I forget to
2:56:21
put my garbage out, I can text him
2:56:23
and say, oh, bro, I forgot to put
2:56:25
my garbage out.
2:56:25
He comes back and picks it up.
2:56:28
And so I gave him I gave him
2:56:30
a little Christmas card with a tip.
2:56:33
Oh, nice.
2:56:35
I give bottles of wine.
2:56:38
I have too much wine in the cellar.
2:56:42
OK.
2:56:43
Eric Hockel in Mulrose, Deutschland.
2:56:46
Fifty two dollars.
2:56:47
There he is.
2:56:48
And it's coming through.
2:56:49
His name's coming through for a change.
2:56:52
Amazing.
2:56:53
Sir recalcitrant crazy Steve, our buddy here in
2:56:56
Santa Rosa, California.
2:56:57
Fifty one.
2:56:58
Fifty.
2:56:59
Please shout out the meetup at Old Kaz
2:57:02
in Roanoke Park next Saturday.
2:57:04
One for twenty five.
2:57:06
And he's going to be at the Mallard
2:57:07
Club at two one twenty five.
2:57:10
Scott Nelson in Council Bluffs, Iowa.
2:57:12
Fifty oh one.
2:57:13
Now the following people are all fifty dollar
2:57:15
donors and not a lot of them.
2:57:18
Surprisingly, and I just give the names and
2:57:20
locations.
2:57:21
Sorry with Richard Gardner, who I think's in
2:57:23
New York.
2:57:24
John Taylor in Florissant, Colorado.
2:57:26
Aaron Weisgerber in Bend, Oregon.
2:57:31
Sir, conference or I'm sorry, sir.
2:57:35
Circumstance not to be mixed up with circumference
2:57:37
in Rancho Palos Verdes, California.
2:57:41
Bobby Bosch or Bo Bobby Bo.
2:57:44
No, no, no, no.
2:57:46
Bobby Bowie.
2:57:46
Oh, boy.
2:57:47
No, boy.
2:57:48
Bobby Boy.
2:57:49
Bobby Boy.
2:57:49
You know, she's writing a note.
2:57:51
It says it right in your note, making
2:57:53
a big point of saying, don't forget it's
2:57:54
pronounced boy.
2:57:55
You keep her mispronouncing it.
2:57:57
And how'd that work?
2:57:58
It didn't work out because I said it
2:58:00
wrong again, but it is pronounced boy.
2:58:02
So it's Bobby Boy.
2:58:03
He's getting a lot of attention on this
2:58:05
show.
2:58:05
Yes, she is.
2:58:06
Bluegrass.
2:58:06
And she's in Bluegrass, Iowa, which I assume
2:58:09
is grassy.
2:58:10
And finally, on the list, a short list
2:58:12
is Leaf Thompson in Meridian, Idaho.
2:58:14
And he came in at the last fifty
2:58:15
dollars.
2:58:16
I want to thank him and everybody else
2:58:18
for helping us out on show for 1725.
2:58:21
And again, thanks to our executive and associate
2:58:24
executive producers for this episode and for all
2:58:26
of those under fifty dollars, which we will
2:58:28
not mention for reasons of anonymity.
2:58:30
We see you.
2:58:31
We read you.
2:58:32
We love you.
2:58:32
And of course, the sustaining donors who set
2:58:35
up recurring donations.
2:58:36
Any amount, any frequency, go to noagendadonations.com
2:58:40
to set that up again.
2:58:40
It's noagendadonations.com.
2:58:42
It's your birthday, birthday, on No Agenda.
2:58:48
Sir Donald of Calgary turned 57 on the
2:58:51
27th.
2:58:51
Sir Circumstance celebrates today.
2:58:54
Happy birthday.
2:58:54
Doug and Cammie wish Adam Fitch a happy
2:58:57
one for tomorrow.
2:58:58
And Jonathan Rupert wishes his smoking hot wife,
2:59:00
Baroness Sarah Rupert, a very happy birthday.
2:59:03
And we do the same for everybody here
2:59:04
at the best podcast in the universe.
2:59:17
And we missed a title change on show
2:59:21
1721.
2:59:22
Kim donated to upgrade her title to Archduchess.
2:59:25
It was missed in the title change segment.
2:59:27
And of course, she wonders if she can
2:59:29
now have the title of Black Archduchess.
2:59:31
And I think she can.
2:59:32
It's been approved here on my spreadsheet.
2:59:36
It wasn't approved by the committee.
2:59:39
Well, Kim, Keeper of the Nutty Fluffers, is
2:59:41
now Archduchess Kim, Keeper of the Nutty Fluffers.
2:59:43
You take it up with the committee, Kim.
2:59:45
Commodore Sir Prime becomes Commodore Sir Prime, Baron
2:59:48
of Southeast Delaware County, region of Pennsylvania.
2:59:51
And Sir Schwoo of the Six Strings becomes
2:59:54
Baron Schwoo of the Six Strings.
2:59:56
Thank you all very much for supporting the
2:59:58
No Agenda show in the amount of $1
3:00:00
,000 or more.
3:00:02
Yes?
3:00:02
I will mention this.
3:00:03
Yes?
3:00:06
Uh, we have long ago determined that the
3:00:09
only thing that you can be a Black,
3:00:10
you can be a Black Knight, because it's
3:00:12
like a thing, a Black Knight, but a
3:00:14
Black Baron, a Black Duke, a Black this,
3:00:18
a Black that.
3:00:20
Unless I can be talked out of it,
3:00:22
I don't think it's appropriate.
3:00:24
Well, I think you should call HR and
3:00:26
have HR talk to Jay, because she put
3:00:29
Black Archduchess in my prep.
3:00:32
Yeah, I realize that that's what she did,
3:00:34
but she did it on her own accord.
3:00:37
We can't have that.
3:00:38
Have HR give her a talking to.
3:00:39
She's gone rogue.
3:00:42
Now we have a couple of Commodores, which
3:00:44
is very nice to see.
3:00:45
We congratulate the following Commodores.
3:00:48
Sir Prime, I realize we've got the wrong
3:00:51
thing here.
3:00:52
Hold on a second.
3:00:53
Are those Commodores or are those Doctors of
3:00:55
Education?
3:00:56
There's Doctors of Education.
3:00:57
I made a mistake.
3:00:59
Let me try that again.
3:01:00
No one will know the difference when I
3:01:01
edit it in post.
3:01:02
And now we have a couple of Doctors,
3:01:05
brand new Doctorates of Education, and we congratulate
3:01:08
Commodore Sir Prime on his Doctor of Education
3:01:12
in Climate Change Studies, along with RS Bagwell
3:01:15
and Mike Schwitzer, better known as Baron Schwoe
3:01:19
of the Six Strings.
3:01:21
Congratulations, brand new Doctors of Education.
3:01:29
Sorry, the bird flu got the bird flu
3:01:30
got me.
3:01:31
The bird flu got me.
3:01:33
Oh, yeah.
3:01:34
How do you feel?
3:01:34
You were sick last show.
3:01:37
We both feel pretty bad.
3:01:39
I mean, you sounded good because you sounded
3:01:41
sick on the show like, I think, once.
3:01:44
John, I have been near death.
3:01:46
I've been without teeth.
3:01:47
I've been divorced twice.
3:01:49
And you've never heard about it on the
3:01:50
show.
3:01:51
That's just who I am, bro.
3:01:53
No, there was no such thing.
3:01:54
One time you did sound sick on the
3:01:55
show.
3:01:56
OK, no, a little jet lag.
3:01:58
But actually, we took the ivermectin and we
3:02:00
sailed through it.
3:02:02
And I recommend everybody we take ivermectin twice
3:02:07
a week.
3:02:08
It's a drop of a hat, apparently.
3:02:09
Well, we take it twice a week as
3:02:12
a prophylactic.
3:02:13
And I think it helped because I know
3:02:16
who I got this from.
3:02:17
I know who I got this thing from.
3:02:19
And now Christina has it.
3:02:21
But we did OK.
3:02:22
I mean, we had the jet lag.
3:02:24
We're flying around Europe.
3:02:25
So, you know, we are we, of course,
3:02:27
are super spreaders.
3:02:28
But in general, we take it on Thursdays
3:02:31
and Sundays, show days, just in case.
3:02:33
For my weight and height, I take 20
3:02:36
milligrams of ivermectin two times a week and
3:02:39
took an extra an extra six milligrams when
3:02:43
it hit me, which was after which is
3:02:45
a week ago and got through pretty good.
3:02:48
I mean, yeah, I just still some lingering
3:02:49
cough, but that's that's just what bird flu
3:02:51
does.
3:02:52
You know, it's OK.
3:02:53
So that is not medical advice.
3:02:56
It's just telling you what I know.
3:02:57
It's not medical advice and you should get
3:02:58
tested.
3:03:03
Get tested, everybody.
3:03:07
Yeah, big party going down on Monday.
3:03:11
New Year's Eve, Eve, Eve.
3:03:13
I like pizza, Steve.
3:03:14
That is the meetup on December 30th.
3:03:17
That's three years.
3:03:18
Eve is Tuesday.
3:03:19
New Year's Eve, Eve.
3:03:21
New Year's Eve, Eve, Eve.
3:03:23
We did this last show.
3:03:24
Oh, yeah.
3:03:25
You did this like every show off.
3:03:26
We do a TV.
3:03:27
Yeah, there's a TV.
3:03:28
Yes, that's bald, bald man brewing in Egan,
3:03:31
Minnesota.
3:03:32
And that's one of our Southwest pilots who
3:03:34
are organizing that.
3:03:35
Go and say hi.
3:03:36
Then on Thursday, our next show day, which
3:03:38
is January 2nd, Northern Wake, publical slave gathering
3:03:41
six o'clock at Saints and Scholars in
3:03:44
Raleigh, North Carolina.
3:03:45
We have many more meetups well into the
3:03:48
new year.
3:03:48
In fact, I even see Longview, Texas on
3:03:51
the list for June 29th.
3:03:52
Some of these things are planned well in
3:03:53
advance.
3:03:54
Some of them pop up later on.
3:03:56
And a reminder, what was the one we
3:03:57
needed to promote?
3:03:58
We have Colorado Springs on January 4th.
3:04:01
Rohnert Park, California, January 4th.
3:04:03
Yukon, Oklahoma on the 4th and Baton Rouge,
3:04:06
Louisiana on the 4th.
3:04:08
And of course, we all need to remember
3:04:09
that there is a meeting in Albany, California
3:04:13
meetup on February 1st, and John will be
3:04:16
there and kids will be running around.
3:04:18
That's the kind of meetups we like to
3:04:20
run over.
3:04:20
No, that was at the Mallard.
3:04:21
No kids.
3:04:22
Oh, no kids.
3:04:23
Keep your kids out of here.
3:04:25
If you'd like to learn more about the
3:04:27
meetups, and I recommend you go to at
3:04:29
least one, you can find information at noagendameetups
3:04:33
.com.
3:04:33
It is a great website.
3:04:35
Sir Daniel manages that for us.
3:04:37
Part of our time, talents and treasure.
3:04:38
We appreciate that very much.
3:04:39
Mimi always sends me the list.
3:04:41
We appreciate that.
3:04:42
Go to noagendameetups.com.
3:04:44
Find one near you.
3:04:45
If you can't find one, start one yourself.
3:04:47
It's easy and always a party.
3:05:00
Well, good news.
3:05:11
Good news.
3:05:12
You have four ISOs.
3:05:13
That's good news because I don't have any.
3:05:17
I do have one that someone sent me,
3:05:20
which is funny, but it's too long.
3:05:21
I just thought it was interesting and I'll
3:05:23
play it.
3:05:23
So guys, time to teleport you to the
3:05:26
ISO zone.
3:05:29
You can just use it for a jingle
3:05:30
for the ISO zone.
3:05:31
I had no idea that was out there.
3:05:35
So luckily you have four to choose from.
3:05:39
So I'm very happy about that.
3:05:41
Okay, let's start with Christmas.
3:05:45
Christmas was a little different.
3:05:47
Where do you get these?
3:05:48
Where do you get these from?
3:05:49
That one, it came from an NPR discussion
3:05:52
from some up talking characters.
3:05:56
And this woman says Christmas is a little
3:05:58
different, at least in my house.
3:06:01
That was pretty good.
3:06:02
It's pretty good.
3:06:04
Then we have, try this one.
3:06:07
Try this is, I think podcast, do a
3:06:09
podcast.
3:06:10
I could not have done better than that
3:06:12
podcast.
3:06:14
Not bad.
3:06:15
I like it.
3:06:16
I like it.
3:06:18
Then we have so much.
3:06:19
Thank you so much.
3:06:20
It's my pleasure.
3:06:21
No, that's too muddy.
3:06:23
It is muddy.
3:06:24
Rejected.
3:06:25
Rejected.
3:06:25
And then great shows.
3:06:27
That was a year of great shows, boys.
3:06:29
Well, is that, that's not hard.
3:06:32
I mean, that's like, that's like written for
3:06:35
us.
3:06:36
Exactly.
3:06:36
That was a year of great shows, boys.
3:06:38
That is fantastic.
3:06:39
Where'd you get that from?
3:06:41
I don't remember.
3:06:42
Okay, good work.
3:06:43
And now, ladies and gentlemen, time for John
3:06:45
Cena Borak's tip of the day.
3:06:54
And sometimes Adam.
3:06:57
Created by Dana Brunetti.
3:06:58
That, by the way, is Sir, Baron Sir
3:07:00
Schwoo, who did that jingle for us.
3:07:03
That was pretty good.
3:07:04
Yeah.
3:07:05
Sir Schwoo knows what he's doing.
3:07:07
He's a musician.
3:07:09
Yeah, I wish, you know, we have a
3:07:11
lot of musicians who listen to the show
3:07:13
and not many of them contribute.
3:07:16
I mean, they contribute money, some of them,
3:07:18
but they don't contribute.
3:07:19
Well, Sir Schwoo is a very successful musician.
3:07:23
Most musicians are pretty much value for value
3:07:26
up shit creek without a power.
3:07:28
Well, you have some big shots too.
3:07:30
Yeah, well, these guys are big shots.
3:07:32
Okay, so this was kind of discussing after
3:07:35
the show, I think last time.
3:07:37
Oh, I'm sorry.
3:07:37
Can I just say one thing before I
3:07:39
forget?
3:07:39
I want to thank everybody for sending me,
3:07:42
and I put the links in the show
3:07:43
notes, links to baggage scales, which apparently Amazon
3:07:49
now has, even though I looked for them
3:07:50
a while back.
3:07:52
There's the digital luggage scale gift for traveler
3:07:55
suitcase, handheld weight scale, and the Clow mini
3:08:00
weight, 300 kilograms, industrial crane scale, digital hanging
3:08:05
scale blue, which is a little more expensive,
3:08:10
but you can also hang your meat on
3:08:13
it.
3:08:16
Well, I think that qualifies as a tip.
3:08:18
Yes, it's a tip.
3:08:19
It's a tip.
3:08:20
So links in the show notes.
3:08:24
So we talked about this a little bit,
3:08:25
and you said it should be tip of
3:08:26
the day, and I'm going to make it
3:08:27
tip of the day.
3:08:28
Tip of the day, which is the use
3:08:30
when you're buying wine, particularly Bordeaux, by the
3:08:34
way, but when you're buying wine, there's a
3:08:36
lot of these wines with little stickers on
3:08:39
them that say, oh, 91, 92 points, or
3:08:42
even better, is a small sticker that says
3:08:46
Macon, usually, which is from a big tasting,
3:08:49
the French do, and the stickers are either
3:08:51
gold, silver, or bronze colored, and these stickers
3:08:56
are all meaningful, and they're all accurate examples
3:09:00
of why you should maybe choose these wines.
3:09:03
If you see the stickers, all the wine
3:09:05
operations, Wine Enthusiast, and all these other guys,
3:09:09
they have these stickers, and they make them
3:09:10
available to the wineries, and so if the
3:09:13
wine gets a high score in some tasting,
3:09:16
they get to put the sticker on, and
3:09:17
I would say that they're generally accurate.
3:09:20
So if you see a wine with a
3:09:22
sticker on it...
3:09:23
It's not just marketing is what you're saying.
3:09:25
Yes, I'm saying they're worth paying attention to.
3:09:28
They're not just a bogus sticker that anyone
3:09:31
could put on, you know, like Instant Best
3:09:34
Seller, for example.
3:09:36
Oh, one of those.
3:09:37
It's not like one of those stickers, and
3:09:39
so it's a real sticker, and the ones
3:09:42
you, if you can see the ones that
3:09:44
are from French sources, including the Macon one,
3:09:47
which don't put point totals.
3:09:49
They put either the gold, silver, or bronze
3:09:52
sticker, and you stick to the gold ones
3:09:55
and kind of skip over the silver and
3:09:57
bronze ones.
3:10:00
Generally, I'd say the gold ones are more
3:10:02
accurate in terms of the wine being really
3:10:04
good, or if the sticker says 91 points,
3:10:08
and it should be over 90 nowadays because
3:10:12
of what I call bracket creep.
3:10:15
You know, these guys have been jacking up
3:10:17
the ratings on wines that really used to
3:10:19
be, I'd say, 15 years ago.
3:10:22
Today's 90-point wine would have been an
3:10:24
88.
3:10:27
It's very, it's just a common thing because
3:10:29
if you give the score 90, you give
3:10:31
the wine 91 points, you're probably getting closer
3:10:34
to being a good wine.
3:10:36
So I would stay with 91 as the
3:10:38
minimum.
3:10:39
But they're accurate, and people should pay attention
3:10:42
to them.
3:10:42
I always thought it was the calorie content
3:10:45
of the wine, but what can I say?
3:10:48
There it is, ladies and gentlemen.
3:10:49
Go to noagendafund.com or tipoftheday.net for
3:10:52
John's tip of the day.
3:11:04
And that concludes our year of broadcasts.
3:11:10
Another fine year it was, Dr. Dvorak.
3:11:14
Yes, it was good.
3:11:15
It was a good year.
3:11:16
A lot happened.
3:11:17
And we look forward to another year of
3:11:20
media deconstruction with you, our producers, who really,
3:11:23
really make a lot of it happen.
3:11:26
And we really do appreciate that.
3:11:29
We have end-of-show mixes by Dee's
3:11:31
Laughs.
3:11:32
And we have the Jones Brothers Syndicate with
3:11:34
a twofer.
3:11:35
We've got Steve Jones with an end-of
3:11:37
-show mix and Neil Jones with an end
3:11:39
-of-show mix to get any better.
3:11:41
Up next on the No Agenda stream or
3:11:45
your modern podcast app or trollroom.io, stay
3:11:48
tuned for Larry's Christmas Ghost.
3:11:50
That is that Larry show, the deepest voice
3:11:53
in podcasting.
3:11:54
It's a good show, good guy, solid man.
3:11:57
Love to have him coming up after our
3:11:59
podcast.
3:12:00
And I'm coming to you from the heart
3:12:02
of the Texas Hill Country.
3:12:04
Remember us at noagendadonations.com.
3:12:07
In the morning, everybody.
3:12:08
I'm Adam Curry.
3:12:09
And from Northern Silicon Valley, where I remain.
3:12:11
I'm John C.
3:12:12
Dvorak.
3:12:13
And we say once again, Happy New Year,
3:12:15
everybody.
3:12:16
Have a good time watching that ball drop.
3:12:19
Until Thursday, adios mofos, ahooey hooey, and such.
3:12:28
We're living in a clown show.
3:12:30
I laugh.
3:12:31
Like, we're driving through, everything smells like weed.
3:12:34
It's nothing but pot shops and fashion dance
3:12:37
places.
3:12:39
If you've got a drive-thru, a couple,
3:12:40
don't forget co-casters on the way.
3:13:09
About the news and leaving clues.
3:13:10
Thinking that I'm clever.
3:13:12
Working three jobs, liking living color.
3:13:14
Headly crooks, brainwashing.
3:13:15
It's not about their butt.
3:13:17
More like smelly.
3:13:17
Another Tim Hortons being built.
3:13:19
Just look around.
3:13:20
I'm not counting, but we are all Brampton
3:13:22
now.
3:13:24
TTC, the Metrolinx, it stinks.
3:13:26
See, I'm the father who my faith is
3:13:27
in.
3:13:27
I never worry about a jinx.
3:13:30
Yeah.
3:13:31
TTC, the Metrolinx.
3:13:33
I mean, it stinks.
3:13:35
What happened were things that have never happened.
3:13:38
Let's talk about the fact that President Trump
3:13:41
incited an erection.
3:13:46
Maybe that too.
3:13:50
Yeah, you can talk about that too, I
3:13:51
guess.
3:13:52
Maybe we should talk about that too.
3:13:56
While the events of the erection...
3:13:59
Excuse me, excuse me.
3:14:01
After 40 years, I can't believe I just
3:14:02
got on TV.
3:14:08
...inciting or assisting in an erection.
3:14:14
Donald John Trump incited the erection.
3:14:19
The erection.
3:14:20
Does the President of the United States believe
3:14:22
that former President Trump incited an erection?
3:14:25
Excuse me, excuse me, excuse me.
3:14:27
Who has been impeached for inciting the erection.
3:14:29
He did incite an erection on the Capitol.
3:14:33
If I have to embrace someone just inciting
3:14:35
an erection...
3:14:38
He, uh, worked to incite an erection.
3:14:41
...an erection.
3:14:42
No comparison to inciting an erection.
3:14:44
Into inciting an erection.
3:14:46
He feels the President has incited an erection.
3:14:49
Someone just incited an erection.
3:14:51
For inciting that deadly erection.
3:14:55
And remember that we just had this bird
3:14:59
flu scare, which is not over.
3:15:01
But oh, it wasn't in the ground beef,
3:15:03
oh.
3:15:03
The USDA says the negative results tonight confirm
3:15:06
the meat supply is safe.
3:15:07
Thank God, it might be in the milk,
3:15:09
but it's in the ground beef.
3:15:10
This morning, the FDA insists the nation's milk
3:15:13
supply is safe.
3:15:14
But when people, you know, people listen very
3:15:17
poorly to the news, and they hear breaking,
3:15:19
breaking, breaking, ground beef, uh, uh, uh, bird
3:15:22
flu.
3:15:22
That is the first known case of a
3:15:23
human getting bird flu from a mammal in
3:15:25
the U.S. I guarantee you that people
3:15:27
are like, well, maybe you should just have
3:15:29
some chicken tonight.
3:15:30
You cannot get this strain of bird flu
3:15:32
from eating poultry.
3:15:33
Yeah, man.
3:15:34
Unless I'm sure I want to have some
3:15:35
grits.
3:15:36
I heard war on chicken.
3:15:37
Bird flu has halted production at the nation's
3:15:40
largest producer of fresh eggs.
3:15:42
I heard something about ground beef.
3:15:44
I don't like it.
3:15:45
And they're all jumping in on it.
3:15:47
Meantime, there are reports a bottlenose dolphin in
3:15:50
Florida has died from bird flu, possibly the
3:15:52
first dolphin in the U.S. to die
3:15:54
of the virus.
3:15:55
Thank you, science.
3:15:57
Thank you, science.
3:15:58
We have science.
3:15:59
I know you love science.
3:16:01
Silent free these people.
3:16:03
It's alive, it's alive, it's alive, it's alive.
3:16:29
That was a year of great shows, boys.
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