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January 5th • 3h 7m

1727: Sideshow Bob

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No kissing.
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Adam Curry, John C.
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Dvorak.
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It's Sunday, January 5th, 2025.
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This is your award-winning Gilmore Nation Media
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Assassination Episode 1727.
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This is no agenda.
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Wearing shades for the glues in.
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Broadcasting live from the heart of the Cheshire
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country here in FEMA Region No.
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6.
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In the morning everybody, I'm Adam Curry.
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And from Northern Silicon Valley, where we're fighting
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anti-gravity machines.
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I'm John C.
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Dvorak.
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It's Crackpot and Buzzkill.
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In the morning.
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I think the exact term was gravitic.
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It was gravisomethingorother.
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Anti-gravitic machine, yeah.
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Oh man, I spent some time on this
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because I noticed that everyone's going crazy.
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And by the way, I expected you to
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so I did nothing.
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I know, I saw like, wait a minute,
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John has absolutely zero on any of this.
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Okay.
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No, no, you have a backgrounder for the
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Vegas guy, which I'll call for that in
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a moment.
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Yes, the backgrounder.
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We'll do that in a minute.
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By the way, the backgrounder I think really
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sums it up well.
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No, no, but I want to start with
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New Orleans because everyone's kind of gone off
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to the anti-gravitic.
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I'm sure that's not intentional at all.
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I love it.
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Before you go on and you start anything,
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I will say this.
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Yeah.
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That for, I don't know, way before we
1:28
started doing this show, we had a guy
1:30
on Silicon Spin once who was busted for
1:32
something or other.
1:34
And he quit his, he was a famous
1:36
online guy.
1:38
And this was in like 96.
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I don't remember who it is.
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I'm already disappointed.
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No, I could look him up, but he's
1:44
97.
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He was very kind of semi-famous and
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he quit his company because he'd seen Aliens.
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Oh, wait, wait, wait, wait.
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Was that the guy who later became the
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Purple Tracksuit Clan?
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I don't know.
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Maybe.
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No, no, that Purple Tracksuit guy is different.
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That was an old guy.
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That was another good one.
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And so this guy, and I grilled him
2:09
about it.
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I said, you actually, what, after, not during
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the show, but afterwards.
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And he said, well, he was kind of
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in a dream state when he saw the
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Aliens and all the rest of it.
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But he did have one thing he was
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absolutely convinced of.
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And then I've heard this since then, over,
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and I probably heard it before then, over
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and over and over again, is that they've
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got the anti-gravity technology and it's coming
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out next week.
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They're going to reveal it next week.
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This has been decades now.
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And the anti-gravity stuff, yeah.
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No, no, no, no, don't kid yourself, John.
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I know, I know.
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Next week.
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I mean, I was all on that tip
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for about 10 years on this show.
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And then I gave up on it because
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even I couldn't last anymore.
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Where is it?
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And that was known as second half of
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show.
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So we'll bring in a little bit of
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second half of show at the start of
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this show.
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Because this is just, everyone's going off the
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rails on this.
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And there's a number of things that need
3:08
to be deconstructed and need to be evaluated
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as to what is really happening.
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And I need to say, everything that is
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going on right now is related to the
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new administration and also confirmation hearings.
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And we'll start with New Orleans.
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It was right on schedule as a six
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-week cycle.
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I am pretty convinced that the narrative was
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written right away for us, even though that's
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not exactly what happened.
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And we know the FBI has a six
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-week cycle.
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They've always employed this in order to assure
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funding.
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Now, I believe they deployed a six-week
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cycle event, which usually exists of the FBI
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confidential informants, people talking to somebody, usually some
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brother who's already a little bit weak.
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Maybe he's changed his meds.
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And then all of a sudden, it's like,
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well, you're ISIS now.
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And here's some bombs and coolers or something
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like that.
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So let's start with, we have a little
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more information than we had.
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First of all, it's, of course, horrible.
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It's unclear if it's 14 or 15 people
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died from this guy driving an F-150
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Lightning, the EV truck, which is completely, I
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think that's just a happy coincidence.
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That a lot of people just, oh, that's
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so cool.
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We didn't even plan that, guys.
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Good work.
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But here's…
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There's one other element to this, is that
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this guy and also the Vegas guy, they
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rented from this online…
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Turo.
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Turo.
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And nobody talks about this.
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Turo doesn't have cars.
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No, you rent from somebody else.
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It's an Airbnb.
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You're using somebody else's car.
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No one has ever discussed…
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I'm sorry.
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That was a lot of the discussion early
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on until, you know, other stuff started popping
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up.
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I never heard who the owner of that
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Tesla car was.
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I mean…
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No, we don't know that.
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We don't know that.
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We just know they were from the same
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app.
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No, I know that.
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Yeah, but I know, but it seems to
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me that the guy who owned the Cybertruck
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more than the Lightning…
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Ah, yes.
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Now you make a good point.
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That poor bastard?
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Yeah, does Turo insure you for that?
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Do you get a new Cybertruck?
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And does anybody talk to these people and
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say, hey, what do you think about your
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truck?
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Why do that?
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Too much journalism involved.
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You actually have to track the guy down
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and ask him, how do you feel about
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your truck being blowed up by some maniac?
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Are you going to use this service anymore?
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I mean, it seems to me that's the
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first thing I'd ask.
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Excellent point.
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You're right.
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Excellent point.
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I've not seen any reporting on that angle,
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other than I think it's a China-based
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app.
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I could be wrong.
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They're not running through China, but it could
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be.
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Who knows?
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Who knows?
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They don't tell us anything.
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So, I wish I could show you visuals
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with this.
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It's a rather short clip, but at least
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we'll get a little background on what this
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guy was actually doing.
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On that deadly attack in New Orleans in
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the French Quarter tonight, the FBI has put
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out new images of the suspect just hours
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before the attack.
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He is seen placing coolers containing explosive devices
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along Bourbon Street.
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Now, while Bourbon Street is reopened tonight, there
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are new security bollards in place.
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Also, we have learned new details about the
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victims that the suspect ran down early on
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New Year's Day.
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And breaking tonight, ABC News has just learned
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that the FBI and Department of Homeland Security
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are warning of potential copycat attacks using vehicles
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to inflict mass casualties.
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They are warning—it is a warning, rather, that
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has been sent to the nation's 18,000
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law enforcement agencies.
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The warning set out as out of an
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abundance of caution.
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All right.
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So, it's always good to add a little
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breaking news, breaking news, copycats.
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Now, what you saw—what you didn't see, of
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course, in this video from this report is
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you see the guy.
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He's in completely different clothes.
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So, apparently, he changed clothes into camos before
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he got into the truck.
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But he already placed these coolers in different
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parts of the French Quarter.
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We're just going to presume it was mainly
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on Bourbon Street, but we don't even know
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that.
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And so, the guy was planning to blow
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stuff up.
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So, let's take it all into account here.
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We've got the coolers.
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We've got his ISIS flag.
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You know, the whole thing is pretty well
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set up.
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It's all the elements that they really love
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over there at the FBI for this type
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of operation.
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But then you see video of this guy
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driving down Bourbon Street.
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But what you don't see is him trying
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to hit people.
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You see him in a straight line.
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People are jumping out of the way.
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If he wanted to hit people, he would
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have swerved a little bit, and he could
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have gotten an extra five body count.
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Yeah, he could have gotten that poor redhead.
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You saw it.
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Exactly.
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Yeah, that showed her a million times.
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And by the way, why wasn't she interviewed?
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Please.
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Please.
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Okay.
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Why does this show even exist?
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You're right.
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If all the things I complained about actually
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worked, we wouldn't be doing this show because
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these guys wouldn't be screwing up their jobs.
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So, it's very apparent that the guy was
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intending to detonate these coolers.
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We have not heard anything about the explosives.
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We don't know if they actually worked or,
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you know, we just don't know anything about
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them.
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There's no reporting on that.
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But then to top it all off, to
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top it off, we get a New York
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Post reporter walking right into his apartment in,
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I think, Houston.
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And the door's busted down, and she's walking
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in in her yoga pants.
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A very bizarre scene this is.
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And the whole place, it's just, it's kind
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of left intact.
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Listen to this.
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We are here inside the New Orleans terrorist's
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home.
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You can see that it's been clearly destroyed,
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the door at least, from the FBI raid
9:28
yesterday.
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But if we walk through the home, we
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see some signs of what he was up
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to.
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He had this work area here.
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Lots of different chemicals.
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You literally see work benches with chemicals.
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Yes.
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I mean, the whole thing.
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I know.
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I want to give you credit for this.
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This is the only, if I was going
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to get a clip, this is the clip
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I'd get because there's one anomaly in this
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clip.
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Mm-hmm.
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And the clip is, well, you probably saw
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another one.
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Well, yeah.
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Well, no, we'll play it, and then you'll
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tell me what you saw as the anomaly.
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And different electronics.
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This is, again, a work setup.
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Left receipts.
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Just very unkempt in here.
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If we go over here, actually, you can
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see the Department of Justice documents here, the
10:20
search warrant, and the property that they recorded
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here, which seems to be a lot of
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chemicals.
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So, literally, there on the kitchen island are
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two documents neatly placed with the search warrant
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and an entire list of everything they found,
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but apparently didn't take.
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Everything is just there.
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And she can just walk right in.
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This, to me, means that this was all
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meant to be discovered, meant to be found,
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and clearly this was supposed to be a
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bomb scare, and it went wrong, as often
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does.
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Maybe this guy got spooked.
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He thought something different was happening, so he
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hangs a right under Bourbon Street.
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I don't think he was intending to mow
11:07
down anybody at all, but he just wanted
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to get out of there.
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Something went awry, and he decided to hoof
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it and made that screeching right hand turn.
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I don't think he was intending to mow
11:20
people down, as has been constantly reported.
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They're not talking about the bombs.
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They're only talking about mowing people down, breaking
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news, mowing people down.
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What was the anomaly you saw?
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At the beginning of it, this was the
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rental place he had in New Orleans.
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Oh, I thought it was the one he
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had in Houston.
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That's what I thought, too, but if you
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listen to the very beginning of her clip,
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she says this is the place in New
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Orleans.
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Let me listen.
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I'm not so sure about that.
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We're here inside the New Orleans terrorist home.
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No, she says the New Orleans terrorist home.
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I think it was in Houston.
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Okay, okay.
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In other words, what you're saying, which is
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probably right, because it's the only thing that
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makes sense, we're in the New Orleans terrorist
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home in Houston.
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She never says that.
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Well, at the end, she does talk about
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him leaving.
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Yeah, he left, and that was the anomaly.
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When she left, she says, well, now he's
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headed to New Orleans to get a place.
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So, okay, the whole thing is very phony.
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It's all staged.
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It's phony.
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It's completely phony, yes, and it went wrong,
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horribly wrong, and maybe John Kennedy will stay
12:32
on top of it, maybe not.
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And by the way, where's the tape?
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Where's the crime scene tape?
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She wanders in, the door's wide open, nobody's
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fixed the door.
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Exactly.
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The thing is, it's bullcrap.
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And Kennedy's full of crap, too.
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He's probably read in.
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He almost seems like he is.
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We got a note from one of our
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law enforcement officers.
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Boots on the ground.
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We shall share, and then we'll move on.
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I'm a law enforcement officer in a large
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city in the southeast with 10-plus years
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of L.E. experience.
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I'm also an FBI task force officer, so
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I have access to some, in parents, top
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-secret FBI resources and information.
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Most of the work I do is related
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to criminal gangs.
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This producer, by the way, is known to
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us, and I trust him.
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Just got off a conference call with the
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FBI that was open to partner law enforcement
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agencies.
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There were about 5,000 law enforcement on
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the call.
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The call opened with FBI Director Chris Wray
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and Secretary of Homeland Security Mayorkas.
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The call then went on to the FBI
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Counterterrorism Director to provide details and updates on
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the investigation in New Orleans and Las Vegas.
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Now, remember, you just heard breaking news, copycats.
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Here are some takeaways from the call.
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Everyone was adamant that each incident was a
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solo undertaking, i.e., Lone Wolf.
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Adamant about that.
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Okay.
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The news is barely starting to report that.
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Livelsberger was an active-duty soldier on leave
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from his unit in Germany.
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He died of a self-inflicted gunshot wound
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to the head prior to the Cybertruck explosion.
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U.S. Army Criminal Investigation Division, CID, is
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part of this investigation since one attacker was
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an active-duty soldier.
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Din Jabbar had ties in Texas and Georgia
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to those local field officers, and they're doing
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background work there.
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Now, read that again.
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Din Jabbar had ties in Texas and Georgia
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to those local field officers, and they're doing
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work there.
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I'm not quite sure what that means, but
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I'm still pretty convinced they were jacking this
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guy up.
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No connection between the two incidents, according to
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the presenters on the conference call.
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As expected, all directors and leaders highlighted the
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need for future funding.
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To ensure several future upcoming public events, Mardi
14:47
Gras, the Super Bowl, etc., were well-funded.
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That's the whole point of a six-week
14:51
cycle.
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There was very little discussion on ISIS or
14:54
other terror groups being propagators of these attacks.
14:57
That's interesting because the news is saying something
15:00
different.
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A lot of discussion about copycat attacks, but
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there are no credible threats.
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Well, that's kind of the opposite of what
15:08
we just heard.
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Some personal insights from myself.
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I would be very aware of what is
15:12
going on around you.
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Be cautious in large public gatherings.
15:15
Always have a plan of escape.
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Set up prearranged meeting places in case something
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happens while you're out.
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Whether these were genuine terrorist attacks or six
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-week cycles gone awry, we will probably never
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know.
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But innocent people were hurt, and I never
15:27
want that for any of the NOAA gender
15:29
producers.
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Okay.
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So then we go to what the mainstream
15:32
news is doing.
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And this was CNN, and they brought on
15:37
this amazing guy.
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His name is, let me see, Donald Harvin.
15:45
Donald Harvin, Homeland Security and Public Health Emergency
15:49
Subject Matter Expert.
15:52
Serves as faculty in Georgetown University's Emergency and
15:55
Disaster Management Master's Program and Applied Intelligent Master's
15:59
Program.
15:59
This guy is Denzel Washington with a real
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job.
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Homeland Security Analyst.
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He's a spokeshole on behalf of the intelligence
16:09
community.
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And he's going to send us down the
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ISIS road because we can't let anyone know
16:14
that this was botched.
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I also think that ISIS, and al-Qaeda
16:18
to a lesser extent, but mostly ISIS, appeals
16:21
so much more.
16:22
They have so much more outreach.
16:23
And if you're downtrodden, and I've consumed their
16:26
products for over ten years, I have to
16:27
dissect them.
16:28
I have to train individuals on them.
16:30
They're very appealing to many people who are
16:32
downtrodden, who are very angry at individuals.
16:36
They're psychologically geared towards individuals who are on
16:39
the margins or in extremes of our population.
16:42
When you say it's psychological, when you say
16:45
it's appealing, I mean, how?
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Can you, like, what's the detail there?
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They have a little bit of something for
16:49
everybody.
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You've probably heard Director Wray over the last
16:52
few years talk about the salad bar ideology.
16:55
Oh, not heard about that, but I like
16:57
it.
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Yeah, I haven't heard that either.
16:58
Salad bar ideology, I'm all in on it.
17:01
It doesn't matter how you show up to
17:02
the salad bar.
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There's a little something there for everyone.
17:05
So if you're a black nationalist, right, and
17:09
you don't like police beatings, they have products
17:12
for you.
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ISIS does.
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We have products.
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They've got products.
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Exactly what he's referring to.
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They've got products.
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Absolutely.
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Absolutely.
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We've seen our white nationalists, our far-right
17:25
extremists.
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They have something for them as well.
17:28
They have something for a little bit of
17:30
everybody.
17:31
And, you know, we saw for the very
17:32
first time, I think it was 2018, we
17:35
had a suicide bomber in the Middle East
17:39
who came from Florida, middle-class family, gated
17:42
community.
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He'd left the U.S., burned his passport,
17:46
and went out there to join ISIS.
17:48
He said he didn't like his life, and,
17:50
you know, they offered something to him.
17:52
So they do this.
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There's an appeal that they have for women.
17:56
We've seen young women leave the United States
17:57
and travel to join ISIS.
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And so they're very effective in their communication.
18:03
So the narrative is being set here for
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ISIS.
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Now I want to read a tweet.
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Can I add a comment?
18:09
Yeah, sure.
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American passports are extremely valuable.
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Yeah.
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If you're going to be one of these
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guys, you don't burn your passport.
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You don't burn it.
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You just threw away $1,000.
18:20
It's dumb.
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So now we have our other agencies.
18:26
We have the CIA.
18:28
Now, remember, the CIA and the intelligence community
18:31
does not want Tulsi Gabbard.
18:35
They don't.
18:37
The military.
18:38
Now, somehow our military is very broken.
18:43
We identified this with the grid is going
18:46
down, all of it coming out of kind
18:48
of the corner of DIA.
18:49
Certainly General Flynn flowing through to all the
18:55
way to what's her name?
18:57
Naomi Wolf, whose husband is ex-DIA.
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Laura Logan, whose husband is ex-DIA.
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And so she, Laura Logan posts on ex.
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I learned months ago from multiple U.S.
19:10
intel sources that the CIA was urging their
19:14
friends in the Taliban and Haqqani terror network
19:17
to use their sleeper cells inside the U
19:20
.S. for an attack that would be blamed
19:23
on ISIS.
19:23
So I am very skeptical.
19:25
It is too easy to blame ISIS.
19:28
They do it.
19:29
So do we now have a continuation of
19:34
CIA versus DIA?
19:36
I'm not entirely sure.
19:39
But the military definitely is the outfit that
19:43
does psychological operations.
19:45
That's kind of the same everywhere.
19:46
The military is specialized in that.
19:49
CIA, they go out, they clear the decks,
19:51
they help with color revolutions.
19:53
They get ready for the military to come
19:55
in.
19:55
So now we need to move over to
19:57
Vegas.
19:57
Before we do that, I'm going to play
19:58
your PBS wrap on the Vegas Cybertrucker.
20:01
The soldier who took his life outside of
20:04
the Trump Hotel in Las Vegas said he
20:06
was trying to draw attention to the country's
20:08
problems.
20:09
Investigators said they recovered a note from a
20:11
phone inside the burned out Cybertruck he detonated
20:15
in which Matthew Livalsberger wrote that his actions
20:18
were not a terrorist attack.
20:20
Rather, quote, it was a wake up call.
20:22
Americans only pay attention to spectacles and violence.
20:26
What better way to get my point across
20:28
than a stunt with fireworks and explosives?
20:31
An FBI investigator said today they do not
20:33
believe that Livalsberger harbored any malice toward President
20:36
-elect Trump and that he suffered trauma from
20:39
his service.
20:40
And although this incident is more public and
20:43
more sensational than usual, it ultimately appears to
20:46
be a tragic case of suicide involving a
20:49
heavily decorated combat veteran who is struggling with
20:53
PTSD and other issues.
20:55
Pentagon officials have not said whether Livalsberger had
20:58
been suffering from mental health issues, but have
21:00
turned over his medical records to police.
21:03
Seven people were injured in the blast, none
21:05
of them seriously.
21:06
So what is interesting about your clip is
21:09
you actually got the real so-called real
21:12
manifesto, which was not the one being discussed
21:16
online.
21:17
The one being discussed predominantly on the Sean
21:20
Ryan podcast and thus everywhere.
21:23
That was the anti-gravitic memo.
21:28
And I have to say that I'm even
21:31
questioning if these cars were rented through the
21:34
Turo app.
21:35
Maybe that was just put out there to
21:38
connect these two.
21:39
Because everybody moved very quickly from New Orleans.
21:42
Okay, well, that's New Orleans.
21:44
But this guy, this is what we got
21:45
to be talking about, this cyber truck.
21:48
Did he blow his head off with an
21:50
Eagle 50 caliber?
21:52
What was going on?
21:53
Anti-gravity.
21:55
Everybody was honed in on this.
21:58
And so we get an emergency broadcast from
21:59
Sean Ryan.
22:00
Now, Sean Ryan, military guy.
22:03
I'm not going to say Sean Ryan is
22:06
in on anything, but just like these ex
22:10
-military guys, they hear stuff.
22:12
It comes through the wire.
22:14
Again, it's like General Flynn has done a
22:17
lot of this grid going down type nonsense.
22:20
So they talk to each other all the
22:22
time.
22:23
They're very active online and Instagram.
22:27
It's a silo.
22:29
Now, as an ex-military guy, Sean Ryan
22:32
has no beard.
22:33
That's always a flag for me because ex
22:35
-military guys, you got to have a beard.
22:37
If you're in the silo, you got to
22:39
have a beard.
22:39
So he doesn't have a beard.
22:41
We have to make note of the fact
22:43
that in his bio, he states he was
22:45
a CIA contractor for 12 years.
22:50
So I'm not sure what he is.
22:52
And again, I'm not saying that he knows
22:54
anything.
22:54
But then what shows up on his podcast
22:58
but a guy named Sam Shoemate, who is
23:02
an ex-military guy, and he has received
23:05
this email the day before, which he says
23:09
came from this guy who blew himself up
23:13
in the Cybertruck.
23:14
And this is the whole China has been
23:16
launching anti-gravatic drones from the Atlantic submarines
23:21
for years, et cetera.
23:24
For years, yes.
23:25
Let's learn a little bit about this guy.
23:29
Is there anything else we need to cover
23:31
that you can think of?
23:35
Jeremy?
23:36
I like the brown hair.
23:38
Oh, yeah.
23:39
There's a lot of this.
23:41
And then he asks this.
23:42
So everyone has a Jamie now.
23:45
So now we have Sean Ryan asking Jeremy.
23:47
That's his Jamie.
23:48
Is there anything else we need to cover?
23:50
Like this guy.
23:51
I guess he's the producer.
23:52
So I guess he has all the questions.
23:57
Did you want to go into the other
23:59
item we talked about in the ride over
24:02
here this morning?
24:03
Oh, the other item.
24:04
Hold on a second.
24:05
There's more.
24:05
The other item.
24:09
Can I say it?
24:11
Yes.
24:11
Yeah.
24:11
The man pads.
24:13
Can I say it?
24:14
The man pads?
24:15
What?
24:16
Well, I'm unfamiliar.
24:17
All right.
24:18
So I'm saying this with you can you
24:21
can decide to use this or cut it
24:22
out.
24:23
There was there was this is this is
24:26
hard to work with because keep in mind,
24:27
let me give some background on this.
24:29
I'm an intelligence analyst and I've spent.
24:31
OK, now now this guy is not just
24:33
some rando posting on Instagram.
24:35
He's an intelligence analyst.
24:38
OK.
24:38
Along many years validating sources, taking information in,
24:43
putting it back out, telling my human tours.
24:45
Hey, this source, this is valid.
24:47
Yeah.
24:48
And so that sounds more like CIA to
24:51
me when you're talking about human tours.
24:53
But OK, well, he's an intelligence analyst for
24:55
the military, apparently.
24:57
But now now he's doing this, putting it
24:59
back out, telling my human tours, hey, this
25:01
source is valid.
25:03
Let's give him a rating of this, do
25:05
this, this, this recommendation so we can we
25:08
can identify good sources in the field that
25:10
give us information and we can say, yes,
25:12
this is a, you know, an a source
25:13
versus, you know, an F6.
25:15
This is just garbage.
25:16
Somebody got paid for something.
25:18
I still work in intelligence.
25:20
I'm an intelligence officer.
25:21
I work for a nonprofit.
25:23
We we Remnant Ministries out of Texas.
25:26
In fact, the website is in my bio
25:29
on X.
25:30
I work with Dr. I work for Dr.
25:33
Pete Chambers.
25:34
OK, so so bells go off in my
25:38
head.
25:38
Wait a minute.
25:38
You're an intelligence analyst for the Remnant Ministry
25:42
out of Texas.
25:43
You work with Dr. Pete Chambers.
25:46
Well, I know who this is.
25:47
This is the guy who set up the
25:49
let's take back our borders convoy down to
25:52
Eagle Pass, which was the wettest fart in
25:55
all in all history.
25:57
Do you remember this vaguely?
26:00
Sir Gene went down there and we're going
26:02
to take back our borders.
26:03
And this guy was it was it was
26:06
a little, you know, it was like 50
26:08
guys showed up and like, OK, big noise,
26:12
very, very small organization.
26:16
And but they have a human or not
26:19
a human, but a a an intelligence guy
26:23
working there.
26:24
Really?
26:24
Yes, exactly.
26:27
So and it's Doc Chambers, who himself, I
26:31
believe, was also in intelligence.
26:34
So there's something fundamentally broken about these stories.
26:39
Many people that are too many guys in
26:41
intelligence.
26:42
So let's talk about the man pad, shall
26:44
we?
26:44
We we had some confirmed reporting through two
26:49
solid sources, which he never mentions.
26:53
And this is where I have to be
26:55
very iffy.
26:55
And I told him in the car, I
26:56
can tell you offline, I cannot say this
26:58
on the air.
26:59
Why not?
26:59
Why not?
27:00
I don't understand.
27:02
Everything's out in the open.
27:03
But he can't.
27:03
Oh, I can't say this on the air.
27:05
But we had two solid sources, one south
27:07
of the border and then one from an
27:09
element within our own government that confirmed independently
27:12
of each other that some Iranian made man
27:15
pads to surface their missiles had come across
27:18
the border.
27:19
We had the location and everything else.
27:21
Well, Doc, that's that's what he goes by.
27:24
Doc Chambers, he put this out on a
27:25
podcast and I was very emphatic like this
27:28
is not stuff that I like to put
27:29
on social media.
27:30
And I'm an Intel guy by trade.
27:32
This stuff is not for social media consumption.
27:34
This guy literally all he does is post
27:37
on social media, on Instagram.
27:39
But now this thing.
27:40
Oh, no, Doc, I can't put this on
27:42
social media.
27:43
OK.
27:44
We got this the Secret Service.
27:45
We did the whole the whole game and
27:47
got everything pushed to them.
27:48
And that's why Trump was pushing a lot
27:50
of this stuff out when he was because
27:51
we had told the Secret Service and they
27:52
had the reporting and everything else.
27:56
But we we have not, to my knowledge,
28:01
have not recovered those man pads.
28:03
Now, I'm not I'm not privy to that.
28:06
But what I do know we have done
28:07
is we have apprehended the couriers on a
28:10
second run of theirs.
28:11
And we have local law enforcement got together
28:14
with federal law enforcement and and rolled up
28:17
the safe house.
28:18
And I will not say that.
28:20
Why say it?
28:21
Please.
28:22
On this show.
28:22
But they rolled up the safe house where
28:24
it was.
28:25
But it was it was something we found
28:26
was was pertinent because at the time Trump
28:29
was still campaigning, he was flying around and
28:31
there was the reports were their intent was
28:33
to take down Trump's airplane.
28:35
So at the time, Secret Service switched things
28:37
up a bit.
28:38
And allegedly, from what I've told, they started
28:40
flying him around on charters for a while
28:42
until they could identify and kind of mitigate
28:45
that threat.
28:45
OK, so this we remember this story.
28:48
Iran's going to take down Trump's plane again.
28:51
We heard this from Laura Logan.
28:53
This is all these these rumors that flow
28:56
through these networks.
28:58
And I'm sad to say, I'm sure the
29:00
guy means well, but do they really know
29:02
that?
29:03
I don't know that for sure.
29:04
You're correct.
29:06
But it's like, come on.
29:08
I mean, can you make it even crazier?
29:10
Oh, wait.
29:11
Oh, yes, I can.
29:13
I'm with you on the not releasing certain
29:15
things on social media.
29:16
I understand that.
29:16
But on the other way, on the other
29:18
hand, it seems to be the only way
29:20
to demand any type of accountability or get
29:24
this in force.
29:26
You see what what Sean Ryan is saying
29:29
here now is we've been warning you.
29:32
We've been saying ISIS is coming.
29:33
And I'll get to that in a moment.
29:35
No one will listen to us.
29:37
It's finally here.
29:38
It's finally happening.
29:39
We were right against the FBI homeland.
29:42
And whoever else is involved to dive into
29:45
this shit and actually take part, that's what
29:47
we've been doing here on the show with
29:48
Scott Mann, retired Lieutenant Colonel Green Beret, Sarah
29:53
Adams, former agency targeter.
29:56
We brought on legend who's an army intelligence
29:58
guy who goes by legend because he doesn't
30:00
want to reveal his name because he's still.
30:03
Oh, brother.
30:04
Seriously.
30:05
You know what has happened here is.
30:08
It sounds like WWE.
30:09
What has happened here is the people who
30:13
used to go on cable news, who would
30:16
be former this former that former intelligence, former
30:20
colonel, they've all moved to podcasts and they're
30:23
blanketing podcasts, particularly these military based podcasts with
30:28
their literal disinformation, as far as I'm concerned,
30:31
because none of it can actually be told
30:33
or really checks out.
30:35
But this next one here is a doozy.
30:37
It's very involved.
30:38
We've been talking about this stuff for a
30:40
year, a year.
30:42
We got it to Congress, congressmen out of
30:46
Knoxville, Tennessee, Tim Burchett, and nobody's fucking paying
30:51
attention.
30:52
Nobody's paying attention.
30:53
We tried to get it in the media.
30:55
We got a little bit of hits.
30:56
Most of them were from from outside the
31:01
US.
31:01
We had a report around India kind of
31:05
cover it.
31:06
But we've been warning about what's happening for
31:11
damn near a year now.
31:13
Sarah first came on, I believe it was
31:15
October of 2023 was her first interview.
31:20
And nobody took it seriously.
31:23
Now we have the New Orleans attack.
31:26
We have we have Iranian missiles.
31:28
We have these invisible bombs.
31:30
Do you know about the invisible bombs?
31:32
Oh, no.
31:34
The invisible bombs.
31:36
John, do you know about the invisible bombs?
31:39
No, but I'm about to find out.
31:42
So now that now these terrorist organizations have
31:44
developed invisible bombs that will get through metal
31:48
detectors and kind of screening device that that's
31:51
out there.
31:51
And they brag about this.
31:53
And now we just did a Twitter spaces
31:55
with Sarah Adams.
31:57
Sarah Adams is important.
31:58
We're going to come to her in a
31:59
moment.
31:59
He just loves her for some reason.
32:01
He keeps bringing her.
32:02
Oh, yeah.
32:03
Oh, yeah.
32:04
And I'd be interested.
32:05
They are now bragging that that we know
32:07
about the invisible bomb.
32:09
It's now even more advanced than it was
32:11
before.
32:11
So that means who's bragging?
32:13
I don't know.
32:14
This is the first I've ever heard of
32:15
the invisible.
32:16
They're bragging and they're bragging and bragging.
32:19
I've never heard of this.
32:20
But yet yet they're bragging.
32:22
They're doing a poor job.
32:24
Really, these guys are doing a good job
32:26
of spreading it into stadiums.
32:27
They can get this into airports.
32:29
They can get this pretty much anywhere they
32:32
want because you cannot detect it.
32:35
That's that's scary.
32:37
There's no stopping what's here.
32:39
We cannot stop this.
32:40
No, you can't roll back.
32:41
Not with what we have in the bottle
32:43
already in here.
32:44
We have sleeper cells.
32:45
We're getting reports that now let's just go
32:48
back to what Laura Logan said.
32:50
Hold on a second.
32:50
I learned months ago from multiple U.S.
32:55
Intel sources that the CIA, Sean Ryan, 12
33:00
-year contractor for the CIA, was urging their
33:03
friends in the Taliban Haqqani terror network to
33:06
use their sleeper cells inside the U.S.
33:08
for an attack that would be blamed on
33:10
ISIS.
33:11
Yeah, okay.
33:12
So this is what we're talking about now.
33:15
We're fear mongering about sleeper cells.
33:20
Sleeper cells.
33:20
We're already getting reports that we're already getting
33:24
reports that I just lost my train of
33:29
thought.
33:29
Oh, we're already getting some reports that there
33:31
may be more involved in the Louisiana New
33:35
Orleans attack.
33:36
They're not releasing.
33:38
No, we also I'll tell you this.
33:40
There's a group of people flying around and
33:44
and basically briefing up different departments, governors about
33:49
what's coming, how to deal with it in
33:52
their communities.
33:53
And so what I basically want to say
33:55
is it's going to be a bloody 2025.
33:58
Oh, okay.
33:59
It's going to be a bloody 2025.
34:01
Well, maybe this first month as we have
34:03
these confirmation hearings coming up.
34:06
So now let's just meet Sarah Adams, who
34:08
has been on Sean Ryan show several times.
34:11
I mean, whenever I see someone coming out
34:14
and saying, yeah, I'm ex CIA, immediately I
34:17
go, no, you're not.
34:19
You're either still CIA or you were never
34:21
CIA.
34:22
My uncle was CIA.
34:24
He couldn't even publish his book about his
34:27
time in Japan without the.
34:29
Firstly, he had to run his book, Pot
34:31
Shards, good book, had to run it through
34:33
the agency.
34:34
They said, you can't write anything about being
34:36
in Japan.
34:36
He lived there for eight years with his
34:38
family.
34:39
He was in Japan.
34:39
He couldn't write a single thing about it.
34:42
My aunt, not no one, not even my
34:44
cousins.
34:45
Her children knew she ran the Russia desk
34:47
for the CIA and outranked Uncle Don until
34:50
she died.
34:51
Because that's not what you do.
34:54
You can't just go running around telling everybody
34:56
how the CIA operates and everything you're doing.
35:00
But let's meet Sarah Adams, Sean.
35:02
No, no, no, no.
35:04
But you basically sign your life away to
35:06
prevent you from doing that.
35:07
Exactly, exactly.
35:09
It's just not true.
35:11
There's another guy with like the long braided
35:13
hair who's been on Lex Friedman.
35:15
Oh, I'm an ex CIA guy.
35:17
I don't believe it for a second.
35:19
You're either currently CIA and sending a message
35:21
or you were never CIA to begin with.
35:25
So here's Sarah Adams.
35:26
Let's learn about her as in this welcoming
35:29
intro, Sean Ryan runs down her honorables.
35:33
For those of you that don't know, this
35:34
is your third appearance on the show.
35:36
We already have a fourth scheduled for.
35:39
Oh, I guess there's another terror attack coming
35:41
if she's scheduled for a fourth.
35:43
We already have a fourth scheduled for later
35:46
in 2025.
35:47
But Sarah Adams, co-author of Benghazi, Know
35:50
Thy Enemy, a Cold Case Investigation.
35:53
Former CIA officer, Libyan crisis before, during and
35:56
after the 9-11 attacks.
35:58
Counterterrorism analyst, targeter for the CIA, senior advisor
36:02
on the select committee on Benghazi.
36:04
I don't know what a CIA targeter is.
36:06
I've never heard of it in my life.
36:09
I haven't either.
36:09
I'm just wondering.
36:10
I thought you might.
36:11
I thought it was.
36:12
I miss.
36:12
Yeah.
36:13
Targeter.
36:13
The next bit is the best.
36:15
Counterterrorism analyst, targeter for the CIA, senior advisor
36:18
on the select committee on Benghazi.
36:21
NGO official working across multiple conflict zones, including
36:25
Afghanistan, Ukraine and Sudan.
36:27
NGO official in Ukraine.
36:30
So what you do is color revolutions.
36:32
Is that what you do?
36:34
NGOs in Ukraine were partly responsible for the
36:38
for the overthrow, for the push, for the
36:40
Maidan.
36:42
Yep.
36:42
So that's what she does.
36:43
Partially.
36:44
Yeah.
36:44
Known to be 10 percent humanitarian, 90 percent
36:48
warlord.
36:50
That's me.
36:52
OK, so wow.
36:54
Wow.
36:54
She is.
36:55
She's a badass, John.
36:56
That's what you need to know.
36:58
So tell me about it, Sarah Adams.
37:00
I mean, we talked a lot about, you
37:01
know, passports, too.
37:03
And in your previous episode, is that are
37:07
they coming in straight to the U.S.?
37:09
You know what?
37:10
This is this is her telling us that
37:12
ISIS is coming into the country.
37:16
U.S. passports or passports with visas to
37:19
the U.S. or the majority of it
37:20
going to South America and then funneling up
37:23
through the Darien Gap into the southern border.
37:25
So in my opinion, terrorists in general just
37:28
leaving Afghanistan, a lot of them are coming
37:31
up through the Darien Gap to the border.
37:34
And that was there was a big push.
37:36
Right.
37:36
Get in the U.S. while you can.
37:37
A lot of these terrorists are coming up.
37:39
Right.
37:40
Right.
37:40
There still is the problem of lone wolves.
37:43
There is the problem of we have terrorists
37:45
in this country now where those members have
37:47
never been in this country.
37:48
Right.
37:49
We don't have any idea what their intent
37:50
is.
37:51
Islamic movement of Uzbekistan is a great example.
37:54
Right.
37:55
They've sent terrorists from Afghanistan region here.
37:57
Why?
37:58
Right.
37:59
We have terrorists in this country that we
38:01
don't even know their long term plans against
38:03
us because they're not never really been a
38:05
focus of ours.
38:06
Or we focus on them with this little
38:08
piece where they did a few operations or
38:10
training with al-Qaeda.
38:11
Right.
38:11
But we don't know the intent.
38:13
And maybe they just are force multipliers for
38:15
al-Qaeda or the Islamic army.
38:17
Source multipliers.
38:17
But we lack the understanding.
38:19
So what she does on the Sean Ryan
38:22
podcast and you can go listen to two
38:24
hours of her or three hours.
38:26
It's all this gobbledygook.
38:28
Right.
38:29
OK.
38:29
Why?
38:30
OK.
38:30
So she is just she's just telling a
38:32
story after story.
38:33
Luckily, I got a short.
38:36
Yes.
38:36
I was just say I think it was
38:38
creative.
38:38
And, you know, there's the idea of force
38:40
multipliers.
38:41
She has source multipliers.
38:42
And by the way, I noticed I'm looking
38:44
at one of their logos.
38:45
The Sean Ryan show is Sarah Adams episode
38:48
116.
38:49
Sarah Adams, a.k.a. Superbad.
38:53
Yeah, that's her.
38:53
That's her handle.
38:54
Superbad.
38:56
She looks anything but Superbad.
38:58
I know.
38:58
She looks like a like a like a
39:00
wannabe to a sorority.
39:02
She's a pom-pom girl, maybe some high
39:06
school.
39:08
All right.
39:09
So it was her message is very convoluted.
39:13
The Sean Ryan podcast.
39:15
But luckily, I found her on the Dale
39:17
Stark podcast because she gets around.
39:19
Again, this is exactly what I said.
39:21
What happened?
39:22
All these podcasts are open microphones.
39:25
And it's great.
39:26
You get someone coming in and I'm an
39:28
ex CIA guy.
39:29
Come on.
39:29
I got to talk to you for three
39:30
hours.
39:31
I'm Superbad.
39:32
I'm a CIA.
39:34
Targeter.
39:35
Oh, yeah.
39:35
You're Superbad.
39:36
I got to talk to you.
39:37
You've got the right story.
39:38
But on this particular podcast, she just narrowed
39:41
it all down for us.
39:42
Nobody knew that I had the manifesto.
39:44
I had to be very quiet for a
39:45
day.
39:46
So people were messaging me and they're like,
39:47
have you heard of this?
39:48
This guy?
39:49
Have you seen this?
39:49
Hold on.
39:50
That's the wrong one.
39:50
That's not the one I want.
39:51
This is no, I'm sorry.
39:54
Where is it?
39:57
Where is?
39:58
Oh, no.
40:00
Maybe it is this.
40:01
And they didn't know I wasn't posting on
40:02
it.
40:02
People expect me to post on these relevant
40:04
incidents.
40:05
I said, so anyways.
40:06
Oh, man, where is where is she?
40:09
Oh, I had this.
40:11
You give a setup here.
40:13
I know.
40:13
I feel stupid.
40:14
I had this great, this great clip.
40:17
Hold on a second.
40:19
You'll have it.
40:21
Where?
40:24
I can't believe it.
40:25
This clip is gone.
40:28
Well, maybe she is CIA.
40:30
Maybe she is.
40:31
Well, I can tell you what she said.
40:34
She said, we're there.
40:36
Oh, man.
40:37
Hold on a second.
40:38
I can't believe it.
40:39
You didn't lose it.
40:41
Well, where did it go then?
40:43
You misplaced it.
40:46
I must have misplaced it.
40:48
She basically says we will have 15 terror
40:51
attacks in 2025.
40:53
In the United States.
40:54
Oh, this clip you've got to find.
40:56
I know.
40:56
I know.
40:57
That's I can't believe it.
40:58
I must have.
40:58
I must have mislabeled it or something.
41:01
I'm going to find it.
41:03
Gosh, that is really dumb.
41:05
I don't understand how that happens.
41:10
I'd like to see 15 terrorist attacks.
41:13
Anyway.
41:15
Crap.
41:15
That really, that was my, that was actually
41:17
my crescendo.
41:17
I can't believe I lost that one.
41:19
Yeah.
41:19
That was one of the greatest lead-ins
41:22
to a dud I've ever heard you do,
41:24
ever.
41:24
The biggest letdown I've ever produced on this
41:27
podcast.
41:29
Crapola.
41:31
I feel so stupid.
41:32
I let you do it.
41:33
I feel stupid.
41:34
I was convinced I had it, but I
41:37
have the wrong, I, for some reason I
41:38
have the wrong, the wrong mislabeled clip here.
41:41
So let's just bottom line it.
41:44
Okay.
41:45
Let's bottom line, force exaggerate, whatever is that
41:48
term?
41:49
Yeah.
41:49
Force.
41:50
Let's bottom line multiply.
41:52
Yes.
41:52
Yes.
41:52
Force multiply this.
41:54
FBI six week cycle.
41:56
They don't want Kash Patel coming in, rocking
41:58
the boat.
41:59
We need all kinds of resources.
42:00
CIA, their whole job is to make sure
42:04
that Tulsi gets all kinds of complicated questions
42:07
and the CIA, these are the people, or
42:10
whether they're real CIA, they're certainly not former
42:14
CIA.
42:15
And the military is just picking up everything
42:17
because I think so many of our military
42:20
has just been traumatized by everything they've been
42:24
through that it's so easy to lob something
42:27
to these guys.
42:28
They take it, they post it, everyone's going
42:31
back and forth.
42:32
And meanwhile, we're left with ISIS is here.
42:35
We're going to die.
42:36
They're going to, they're going to attack us.
42:38
Be afraid, be very afraid.
42:40
And all of this is, is happening in
42:43
this very month when the new administration and
42:45
confirmation hearings are coming in and everything else.
42:49
I mean, I think this guy who blew
42:51
himself up, he probably had a mental problem
42:54
and he blew himself up.
42:55
And I think what this is, if it
42:57
was his form of suicide and it turns
43:00
out they try to make it look like
43:02
he's some sort of a Trump hater, that's
43:03
what he did at the Trump Tower.
43:04
But he's, I guess, was a huge pro
43:07
-Trumper.
43:08
Very pro-Trump from what I understand.
43:11
So this is all spinning people up and,
43:15
and, you know, of course, it's also great
43:17
that these guys get clicks and likes and
43:20
views and all of that stuff.
43:22
That's all fine.
43:23
Let me see.
43:26
Is this the clip?
43:28
I think this is the clip.
43:29
No, that's not the clip.
43:31
I cannot stand myself, John.
43:32
I'm going to find this.
43:34
We're going to, after the show, we're going
43:36
to record a drop-in so that I
43:39
don't look like a total fool.
43:39
It would be the only, by the way,
43:40
I should mention to people out there, we
43:42
have never done a drop-in.
43:43
No, we haven't.
43:45
I should though.
43:46
And that's a phrase for people that don't
43:48
know what that means.
43:49
In other words, you take your whole show
43:52
and then you go after the show's over
43:53
and you find and there's something you wanted
43:55
to put in.
43:55
So you re-record something and then you
43:57
take it, pick it up and drop it
43:59
in somewhere in the show as though it
44:01
was in the show.
44:02
And then we sound brilliant.
44:05
And that's what most, you know, people do.
44:07
That's post-production.
44:08
That's what most people do.
44:09
We don't do that because we don't normally,
44:12
normally we don't have to because we don't
44:14
have these incidents except rarely.
44:19
So I don't think we have to be
44:22
too worried about stuff.
44:23
Especially with a structured presentation, I might add.
44:25
Just to rub it in.
44:26
Yes.
44:27
Goodness gracious.
44:28
I can't believe I screwed that one up.
44:30
I'm very angry at myself right now.
44:33
Sarah Adams.
44:34
I'll keep an eye on her.
44:35
Oh yeah.
44:36
Well, she has a fourth scheduled appearance on
44:40
Sean Ryan.
44:41
Well, I've never heard this guy's show, but
44:44
I've been listening to some of these oddballs.
44:46
It's worth mentioning that he showed up on
44:48
the Rogan show maybe about a month ago.
44:52
And that's where I really first heard of
44:55
him.
44:55
And I think that really catapulted him out.
44:58
And Joe was very flattering, you know, like,
45:00
hey man, you're the guy that started doing
45:01
all this stuff.
45:02
I'm like, huh?
45:04
Okay.
45:05
I guess.
45:07
We did learn, of course, that Tesla has
45:09
all kinds of data on you when you're
45:11
driving.
45:12
That's nice to know.
45:13
Oh yeah.
45:13
But we got pictures of the guy.
45:15
We got video from inside the Cybertruck.
45:19
That's what it does.
45:20
Tesla's a spying operation.
45:22
Yes.
45:22
Well, most of these cars.
45:24
Do you know how many cars?
45:26
The Washington Post actually did a piece on
45:28
this about, I mean, cars are selling your
45:33
data left and right.
45:36
It's unbelievable.
45:37
It's a money maker.
45:38
It's a big money maker.
45:40
And there's some websites you can use, and
45:44
they'll send emails to the appropriate addresses of
45:48
your car manufacturer to opt out of their
45:53
data collection, or I don't know if you
45:55
can opt out of the data collection, but
45:57
you can opt out of them sending it
45:58
to third parties.
45:59
Which brings me to the Apple clip.
46:02
Apple is going to pay $95 million to
46:05
settle a proposed class action lawsuit that claims
46:08
Siri violated its users' privacy.
46:11
A mobile device owner say Apple routinely recorded
46:13
their private conversations after they had unintentionally activated
46:18
Siri.
46:19
They claim the company then disclosed the conversations
46:21
to third parties such as advertisers.
46:24
One plaintiff in the suit said he ended
46:26
up getting ads for a brand name surgical
46:28
treatment after what he thought was a private
46:31
discussion with his doctor.
46:34
The issue reportedly began when Apple incorporated the
46:37
Hey Siri feature into the voice activated assistant.
46:40
People who have file claims could receive up
46:42
to $20 for each Apple device.
46:45
Apple denied wrongdoing in settling the lawsuit.
46:49
Wow.
46:49
Twenty whole dollars.
46:51
How about that?
46:53
That's fabulous.
46:54
Privacy is worse nowadays.
46:55
Yeah.
46:55
The BBC did this story.
46:57
They did it in kind of a funny
46:58
way.
46:58
Kind of a way that we might have
46:59
done.
47:00
The tech giant Apple has agreed to pay
47:02
a $95 million settlement to users who accuse
47:06
its digital assistant Siri of listening in on
47:09
their private conversations.
47:11
The BBC's Isabella Bull decided to ask Siri
47:15
itself about the allegations.
47:18
Hey Siri.
47:20
Have you been recording my private conversations?
47:25
Sorry, I don't understand.
47:27
Have you been listening to me?
47:30
I respect your privacy and only listen when
47:32
you're talking to me.
47:33
You can learn about Apple's approach to privacy
47:36
at apple.com.
47:38
So Siri, why is Apple settling a lawsuit
47:40
over you?
47:41
I found this on the web.
47:43
Okay.
47:44
I can see you've brought up the BBC
47:46
News article about this lawsuit.
47:49
Can you explain it to me?
47:52
Apple means the round fruit of a tree
47:55
of the rose family, which typically has thin
47:58
green or red skin and crisp flesh.
48:00
Do you want to hear the remaining one?
48:02
No thanks, Siri.
48:03
That's okay.
48:05
Okay.
48:06
Okay.
48:06
BBC.
48:07
Way to go.
48:08
Way to go.
48:09
Not even talking about the issue.
48:12
That's kind of cute.
48:14
But Apple has, of course, not admitted any
48:17
guilt in this settlement.
48:19
It's just settling.
48:20
They haven't said they'd do it or not.
48:21
And no one seems to care.
48:24
No.
48:25
Why would they?
48:26
If you're an Apple user, you've already given
48:28
up.
48:29
You've given up.
48:32
So a couple of news items came around
48:34
that might be worth discussing.
48:36
Okay.
48:37
Let's play this clip.
48:38
The Presidential Medal of Freedom.
48:41
Yes.
48:42
Yes.
48:43
This got, indeed, got some attention.
48:46
President Biden awarded the Presidential Medal of Freedom
48:48
to big names in the worlds of politics,
48:51
the arts, sports, and philanthropy.
48:54
Former Secretary of State and First Lady Hillary
48:56
Clinton, Academy Award winner Denzel Washington, and world
49:01
-renowned conservationist Jane Goodall were among the 19
49:04
honorees.
49:05
The president said the recipients have made remarkable
49:09
contributions to the world and put decency above
49:12
all else.
49:13
For the final time as president, I have
49:15
the honor of restoring the Medal of Freedom,
49:17
my nation's highest civilian honor, on a group
49:20
of extraordinary, truly extraordinary people who gave their
49:25
sacred effort, their sacred effort, to shape the
49:29
culture and the cause of America.
49:32
The Presidential Medal of Freedom is awarded to
49:35
those who have made contributions to the prosperity,
49:38
values, or security of the United States.
49:41
So, this was kind of interesting, the people...
49:44
Wait.
49:44
Kind of interesting is that they don't mention
49:47
anybody worth mentioning.
49:49
Well, what was interesting is the people who
49:51
actually got the Presidential Medal of Freedom.
49:54
Yes.
49:55
I have a list.
49:55
Okay.
49:56
What's the list?
49:57
Well, it's a long list.
49:58
I mean, it's 19 people.
49:59
Well, let's go over them.
50:01
Because he doesn't mention any of them except,
50:03
you know, Clinton, I guess.
50:05
Jose Andres, a Spanish-American...
50:08
Oh, he's the chef.
50:08
He's the chef.
50:09
The chef.
50:10
Okay.
50:10
He's a good guy.
50:11
So, we'll let him go.
50:12
Bono.
50:13
Bono.
50:14
Bono.
50:15
Yes.
50:15
Bono.
50:17
Why does he get anything?
50:19
Well, he had a, you know...
50:20
He's not even an American.
50:21
He's a U2.
50:22
He's a U2 guy.
50:23
It's an American award for Americans.
50:26
I don't know if it's strictly for Americans.
50:31
Ashton Carter.
50:32
He's dead.
50:33
He's the Secretary of Defense.
50:35
I don't know what the point of that
50:36
was.
50:36
Okay.
50:37
Hillary Rodham Clinton.
50:38
Michael J.
50:39
Fox.
50:40
Well, I mean, it's Michael J.
50:41
Fox.
50:43
Well, I mean, I like Michael J.
50:45
Fox, but I don't know...
50:46
I mean, you know, Trump gave Rush Limbaugh
50:49
an award before he died.
50:51
Michael J.
50:51
Fox is not doing too well.
50:54
Tim Gill.
50:55
Who's that?
50:57
He's an entrepreneur who advanced LGBTQI rights and
51:02
equality after transforming and publishing industry through groundbreaking
51:06
software.
51:07
He should get an award because that LGBTQ
51:10
thing had legs.
51:12
Lie.
51:13
It's an important part of that.
51:14
Very good.
51:15
Jane Goodall?
51:17
The gorilla lady?
51:19
Yeah.
51:19
And what is the...
51:20
Okay.
51:21
She's great.
51:21
I'm not arguing that, but what's she got
51:23
to do with America?
51:24
Hold on a second.
51:26
Just like any award show, this is how
51:29
you have to look at it.
51:30
It's always part marketing and it's always part
51:33
party.
51:35
Joe Biden didn't put this list together.
51:37
You know, he or whoever is standing in
51:39
for him.
51:41
So this is just a list of all
51:43
these people before they get kicked out of
51:45
the White House.
51:46
Like who do you want to meet?
51:47
I want to meet that gorilla lady.
51:48
Okay.
51:48
Let's give her a medal.
51:49
I've always wanted to meet Bono.
51:51
He's so awesome.
51:52
All right.
51:53
We'll give him a medal.
51:54
Hey, could I get some cooking tips from
51:55
Jose?
51:56
Yeah.
51:56
We'll give him a medal.
51:57
That's what this is.
51:59
Who else is on the list?
52:00
Fannie Lou Hammer, who's dead.
52:04
Well, they just throw those in to make
52:05
it look legit.
52:06
Racial justice.
52:09
Irvin Magic Johnson, the basketball player.
52:13
Yeah.
52:13
I'd like to meet him.
52:14
Well, what about Larry Bird?
52:15
He's white.
52:16
Get out of here.
52:19
Robert RFK, the original?
52:22
The dead one?
52:23
Yeah.
52:25
That's just to poke out RFK Jr.'s eye.
52:28
Hey.
52:29
Well, they actually made, I think RFK Jr.
52:31
was there.
52:32
Oh, he went there to receive it?
52:33
Oh, okay.
52:34
Oh.
52:35
So that was kind of funny.
52:36
It's like I talked to him in the
52:37
hallway.
52:37
Hey, listen.
52:39
Listen.
52:40
Ralph Lauren.
52:41
Come on, man.
52:42
Get me a free suit.
52:44
That's what I'm thinking.
52:45
That's what everyone at the dinner table the
52:47
other night was thinking.
52:48
Where was Schwarzenegger?
52:49
Did he get one?
52:50
Arnold Schwarzenegger?
52:51
Not yet.
52:51
No.
52:52
It's coming.
52:52
It's coming.
52:52
All right.
52:53
Lionel Messi?
52:55
Messi?
52:56
The soccer player?
52:57
Do you know how many people want to
52:59
meet him?
53:00
Give him an award.
53:01
Did he show up?
53:02
I have no idea.
53:04
Hmm.
53:04
I think he's playing for an American team
53:06
now.
53:07
Miami.
53:08
Yeah.
53:09
To be specific.
53:10
I was right.
53:11
He's not American.
53:13
William Sanford Nye.
53:16
Oh, Bill Nye the science guy.
53:18
He's very important.
53:19
How is this guy, who's not even a
53:24
science guy, is an engineer, I think, a
53:26
mechanical engineer or even- I mean, come
53:32
on.
53:33
And he's a phony.
53:35
He's a big phony.
53:37
Okay.
53:38
Can I just put it this way?
53:39
This was trolling.
53:40
This was trolling for exactly what you're doing.
53:44
Because- Well, I got to finish the
53:46
list now.
53:46
Everybody was doing this.
53:48
Why did that guy get it?
53:50
He's not even American.
53:51
This was the whole social media was it
53:53
was trolling Trolling people and you're all in
53:57
on it.
53:58
Give it to me.
53:59
I'm totally in on it.
53:59
Let's go.
54:00
I'm gonna finish the list After Bill Nye
54:04
the science guy we go to George Romney.
54:08
Oh, yeah, who's also dead Yeah, did Mitt
54:11
accept on his behalf?
54:13
I didn't see that but as I would
54:15
guess he was there cuz he lives there
54:17
in Washington D.c. Probably was there was
54:19
Jimmy Savile on the list by any chance
54:26
For the pizza parties David Rubinstein the co
54:32
-founder and executive of the Carlisle group what
54:35
very important to give it to investors now
54:38
very important Somebody wants a job after they
54:45
get out of the administration.
54:46
They'd love to go to the Carlisle group.
54:47
Come on.
54:48
Hey Hey, we're so glad you come to
54:51
get your Presidential Medal of Freedom.
54:52
Can I just give you my resume?
54:56
Staying in alphabetical order the one that really
54:59
got the attention Hillary George Soros Who didn't
55:05
accept the award his son did you know
55:07
George can't he's dead.
55:09
He can't walk.
55:10
He's almost dead.
55:11
Yeah That was it no Joe I got
55:15
a couple more there's three there's three more
55:17
and then we're done George Stevens jr Who's
55:21
that?
55:22
Yeah, that's the question, isn't it?
55:24
Yeah He's a award-winning writer director author
55:28
and playwright His career has been dedicated to
55:31
preserving and celebrating the best of America film
55:34
and the performing arts Including by founding the
55:37
American Film Institute and creating the Kennedy Center
55:41
honors, okay Well, do you want that guy?
55:43
Cuz you know, hey look if we give
55:45
you an award Can you give me a
55:47
Kennedy Center or honor boom?
55:48
Yeah, I think you nailed that one.
55:50
Yeah.
55:50
Yeah, the rest of these were sketchy Denzel
55:53
Washington.
55:54
Oh, he's a he's a he's a Pastor
55:58
now.
55:58
Yeah, you know, I heard that gotta bring
56:00
the God stuff in very good Well, they
56:02
had one good and then wait last on
56:04
the list last one Which is really a
56:07
head shaker to me and a wind tower.
56:10
Ah Hey, I want to sit on the
56:12
front row the next fashion show.
56:14
Hey, listen, I'm gonna be ambassador to Paris
56:17
Anna can you make sure that I get
56:19
a good seat at the front row at
56:21
the at the fashion show during fashion week?
56:26
Testing list so while you did that, thank
56:28
you for doing that list.
56:29
I was able to find my clip Ah,
56:32
you can thank me.
56:34
I'm thanking you.
56:35
Here is the clip back back to the
56:37
interesting point.
56:38
You said that You guys think that they've
56:41
sent at least 15 al-qaeda alone has
56:42
sent at least 1,500 people here in
56:44
the United States, right?
56:45
What do they plan on doing with them?
56:47
They have a 2025 multi-coordinated multi-city
56:50
plot to avenge the death of Osama bin
56:54
Laden Okay, so I I've watched your I
56:56
watched you on podcast.
56:57
I've never heard that There's a could you
56:59
explain that more we're gonna put our report
57:02
on Monday, but essentially Al-qaeda is actually
57:05
who helped plan the Hamas attacks.
57:08
The Hamas attacks is a dress rehearsal So
57:10
the Hamas attacks is the practice attack and
57:12
then the big attack is going to be
57:14
in the United States and then in four
57:15
countries in Europe, okay You guys want to
57:19
go home and love magazine There it is
57:23
four countries in Europe there's 1,500 al
57:25
-qaeda in America They're going to attack as
57:28
as revenge for bin Laden according to Sarah
57:31
Adams There you go on the shark the
57:35
shark coast tactical podcast Exactly so she just
57:40
goes out everywhere the pom-pom We're gonna
57:42
do it makes it up as she goes
57:44
along.
57:44
I don't believe she's even being Scheduled to
57:47
do anything.
57:48
What does she makes it up?
57:49
She's making listen to what she called it.
57:51
She's not even an op here.
57:52
Listen to what she calls it What do
57:53
they plan on doing with them?
57:56
525 multi-coordinated multi-city multi-coordinated multi
58:01
-city plot to avenge the multi-coordinated Multi
58:05
-city, I like it.
58:07
Hey, I'll do it.
58:08
Are you coordinated?
58:09
I'm ready.
58:09
Go ahead vomit please You're right.
58:14
She does look like a pom-pom girl.
58:16
She looks anything but super bad Yeah, she's
58:20
likes a pom-pom girl said that she
58:22
might not even make the squad at pom
58:24
-pom girl You know the lowest no offense
58:27
to the women out there who couldn't make
58:29
the pom-pom at all at all no,
58:31
please yeah Yeah, well now we're aware of
58:38
another another lunatic I'm I just find it
58:42
a little bit concerning because people are out
58:44
there just walking around like oh, yeah Although
58:46
I am very proud of a lot of
58:48
our no agenda producers who would send me
58:50
this This link to the Sean Ryan pockets
58:52
like this and this makes no sense.
58:54
This has got to be an op well,
58:57
yeah of sorts That's the thing I'm not
59:01
even thinking it's an op.
59:03
No, it's just chatter It's just bullcrap.
59:07
I don't chat Well, you know, they are
59:09
pretty well structure when they work when they're
59:12
back when it's a real op Yeah, they
59:14
could try something I guess but I don't
59:17
know Boy I have so many different places
59:22
I can go right now I can go
59:23
with the US steel Buyout which is kind
59:26
of interesting, but I have this this series
59:27
of clips.
59:28
I want to play.
59:28
Okay on Manufacturing job training because I have
59:31
complaints about these this three clips Manufacturing job
59:35
training.
59:36
Is this where you have to train your
59:38
replacement from India?
59:40
No.
59:40
No that that's that's that's old news Oh,
59:43
okay.
59:44
This is just bitching and moaning about the
59:46
fact that they want to keep kids from
59:48
taking gender studies in college they finally got
59:50
a clue and So this this MFG job
59:54
training I have commentary.
59:57
Okay.
59:58
This is the first one PBS W Yep
1:00:00
to reflect this important and concerning risk.
1:00:03
Do you know what those limits should be
1:00:04
how they should be revised?
1:00:06
Well, they should be revised downward is my
1:00:08
opinion Who's talking here?
1:00:10
Give me some okay.
1:00:11
I have no idea what's going on.
1:00:12
Yeah, okay.
1:00:13
They're talking about the fact that Trump wants
1:00:17
to do wants to make as a manufacturing
1:00:19
a Strong manufacturing company once again, and we're
1:00:23
going and we're going to you know crank
1:00:27
it up so we're all in the manufacturing
1:00:29
game and This guy comes on to say
1:00:32
that this I cut right into the middle
1:00:35
of it This was too long to play
1:00:38
the whole thing.
1:00:38
Yeah, so I have to do it It
1:00:43
turns out that if you look at the
1:00:45
data and everything we're done as Manufacturing and
1:00:48
we can't get enough workers kids don't want
1:00:50
to do the job You ask the kids
1:00:52
if they want to go into manufacturing, they'd
1:00:54
rather not they want to be on Tick
1:00:56
-tock want to be an influencer.
1:00:58
You know what you just said is absolutely
1:01:00
part of the bit Okay You actually nailed
1:01:04
it because they'd rather be on tick-tock
1:01:06
or doing nothing and they've never been trained
1:01:08
properly when I was a kid Hi, here
1:01:10
we go When I was a kid in
1:01:15
high school During the summer, I would work
1:01:18
in a manufacturing job in high school and
1:01:22
then and then in college you do this
1:01:25
I mean you would just do that It
1:01:26
was just but you go to school and
1:01:27
you work during the summer or you go
1:01:30
to do you might go to camp?
1:01:31
Most people didn't they they'd get a job
1:01:33
make a bunch of money and you could
1:01:34
coast through the regular year with that money
1:01:36
Yeah, and and then you'd learn the how
1:01:40
important that was because you could have money
1:01:42
Which is a big deal and you'd also
1:01:45
get it get into the good habits of
1:01:47
liking to work because it's actually something the
1:01:49
good way to use your time and The
1:01:52
kids today know they're not interested.
1:01:54
They want they want to be influencers or
1:01:56
they want to work for Rover and be
1:01:58
dog-sitters That is not too far from
1:02:04
what they're talking about what you just said
1:02:06
Okay, so so we're in the middle of
1:02:08
the conversation So you're gonna we're kind of
1:02:10
picking up a conversation in the middle To
1:02:12
reflect this important and concerning risk, do you
1:02:15
know what those limits should be how they
1:02:16
should be revised?
1:02:17
Well, they should be revised downward is my
1:02:19
opinion And you overall with the guidelines committee
1:02:23
needs to do is look at the overall
1:02:24
health impact of alcohol, but here too I'm
1:02:27
playing the one you told me to play
1:02:29
MFG job training PBS W.
1:02:33
Oh My god, that is the alcohol clip
1:02:38
died.
1:02:39
I guess both of us are doing this
1:02:41
today The op is in progress Let's start.
1:02:45
Let's get that road.
1:02:47
We're screwed today That is the alcohol clip
1:02:51
because there's because I'm gonna stop this job
1:02:54
clip because of what I just said is
1:02:55
probably enough But I would let's skip up
1:02:58
to anti alki one PBS Alcohol is the
1:03:03
third leading preventable cause of cancer in the
1:03:05
United States following tobacco use and obesity Alcohol
1:03:08
consumption contributes to roughly a hundred thousand cancer
1:03:11
cases and twenty thousand deaths each year and
1:03:14
a new advisory out today from the US
1:03:17
Surgeon General says alcoholic beverages should have a
1:03:20
warning label about those risks u.s. Surgeon
1:03:22
General.
1:03:23
Dr Vivek Murthy joins us now to discuss.
1:03:26
Welcome back to the news hour.
1:03:27
Great.
1:03:27
Thanks so much.
1:03:28
I'm not good to be with you again
1:03:28
There's a few things that really stood out
1:03:30
to me from your findings I just want
1:03:31
to tick through them for our audience here
1:03:33
number one Alcohol consumption you found increases the
1:03:36
risk of at least seven types of cancer
1:03:39
over 16% of all breast cancer cases
1:03:42
in the u.s. In 2019 were alcohol
1:03:44
related Okay So this is part of the
1:03:50
series of clips.
1:03:51
I played last show which is this anti
1:03:52
health alcohol thing.
1:03:54
That's going on Yes, I've heard about it.
1:03:56
And so now they're claiming it does this
1:03:58
and that somehow breast cancer is related to
1:04:01
having a drink Which it would logically makes
1:04:04
no sense But okay, we're gonna go with
1:04:07
this now you can play the rest of
1:04:09
this clip or you can listen to me
1:04:10
complain Well before we listen to you complain
1:04:13
I have a follow-on clip because there
1:04:16
was a little gotcha in this that came
1:04:18
in from this same story Which was the
1:04:21
same everywhere everywhere.
1:04:23
It was the same everywhere is local news
1:04:25
this was PBS and it was it was
1:04:28
following the last week's the last shows clips
1:04:30
about Sober Yeah, no you play yours played
1:04:38
on the medical watch now alcohol is as
1:04:41
bad as smoking when it comes to causing
1:04:43
cancer That's the best This is important because
1:04:46
it leads into what's coming regarding this surgeon
1:04:50
general who's recommending warning labels on alcoholic beverages
1:04:53
Dr. Vivek Murthy's report cite studies linking alcoholic
1:04:57
beverages to at least seven malignancies including breast
1:05:01
cancer Joining me now to sort out what
1:05:03
this means for us is dr.
1:05:05
Brian health and who is an oncologist with
1:05:07
no Thank you for being guys an oncologist
1:05:10
in here since alcohol is so much a
1:05:12
part of so many people's lives I'm sure
1:05:13
they're not happy obviously about this, you know
1:05:16
when the warnings first arose regarding cigarettes I
1:05:18
think people didn't necessarily believe it then that
1:05:21
cancer connection became so clear Do you see
1:05:24
that happening with alcohol?
1:05:25
I think the information that we obtained through
1:05:28
large studies and we have these, you know
1:05:31
amazing abilities now that we've accumulated Datasets for
1:05:34
many many years and we can analyze it
1:05:36
and the more information that we can get
1:05:39
from that really Convinces us of the harms
1:05:41
that a lot of what we consider routine
1:05:44
behaviors and the harm that they have caused
1:05:47
so again, I think that We are learning.
1:05:51
I do think that we will potentially see
1:05:54
that, you know severe Warnings and potentially even
1:05:57
taxes on alcohol as we Taxes More taxes
1:06:04
on alcohol.
1:06:05
That's what this is.
1:06:06
That's where this is going Higher taxes to
1:06:10
thwart people from drinking alcohol.
1:06:12
It's easy.
1:06:13
I think that's just one of two elements.
1:06:15
What's the other one?
1:06:17
The other element which was shown on local
1:06:19
television and I think local broadcasts will have
1:06:22
this There was there's a there's a non
1:06:25
-alcoholic club in San Francisco.
1:06:27
It's a nightclub and it's only serves Non
1:06:30
-alcoholic wine non-alcoholic champagne non-alcoholic beer
1:06:34
and I think there's a lobby That put
1:06:39
this to put this package together Promote non
1:06:45
-alcohol beverage drinking.
1:06:47
Yeah, that makes sense Cuz that's what you
1:06:49
do If you're you run you you you
1:06:51
get all these different companies there's a lot
1:06:52
of them now Making non-alcoholic beverage you
1:06:55
form a community and you say look we
1:06:57
need a lobbying effort Yeah, we gotta start
1:06:59
getting people to drink this crap What is
1:07:03
your as as a as an alcohol consumer
1:07:06
yourself, what is your thinking on this?
1:07:09
I mean, they're now saying that just it's
1:07:12
just connected you drink alcohol.
1:07:13
You have a chance of getting cancer to
1:07:15
me Nothing water does the same thing and
1:07:18
but and What should give you cancer the
1:07:21
this is I think I think it's nonsense
1:07:23
at some level and the in the late
1:07:25
longevity Studies in France, for example, where they
1:07:28
drink a lot or they used to drink
1:07:29
a lot more alcohol than they do today
1:07:31
and the fact that we had like We
1:07:34
really had a society that was an alcoholic
1:07:36
before prohibition.
1:07:38
Yes.
1:07:39
I'm not buying any of it I and
1:07:41
and when it comes to the non-alcoholic
1:07:43
stuff I have to say it's the improvement
1:07:45
in its quality over the years will It's
1:07:48
probably the right time to try to promote
1:07:50
it a little bit Because I think some
1:07:54
of it's actually quite tasty I've had a
1:07:56
few beers recently and not wine so much
1:07:59
but beers that are non-alcoholic that are
1:08:02
quite quite good And so if I was
1:08:06
in that business I would be going out
1:08:07
of my way to promote people at least
1:08:09
try it and this is probably an attempt
1:08:11
I think this I think this is just
1:08:12
a promotional and it but I like the
1:08:14
tax thing I didn't catch that the tax
1:08:16
thing and then there's also we're still looking
1:08:18
for a reason for the turbo cancers.
1:08:21
Oh Number three, you're right.
1:08:24
I actually thought about that.
1:08:25
Yes.
1:08:26
We have a bunch of turbo cancers caused
1:08:28
by vaccines Which are cancer-causing?
1:08:32
documented And more recent and you've got to
1:08:36
come up with something to explain it away.
1:08:38
So yes Yeah, that would be the third
1:08:40
rationale have you heard of have you heard
1:08:42
of the mirror life have you heard of
1:08:44
this this from this scientific breakthrough mirroring mirroring
1:08:49
mirroring Molecules mirroring life You know, it's it's
1:08:58
ringing some sort of Bell, but I'm not
1:09:00
I don't know what you're talking about So
1:09:02
a warning came out that science it's so
1:09:06
at first I thought it was like gain
1:09:08
of function and it's not Gain of function,
1:09:11
but we'll have I have a couple clips
1:09:12
here.
1:09:13
This is From the current.
1:09:15
Hello.
1:09:15
I'm Matt Galloway and this is the current
1:09:17
podcast Sorry That has to stay in there.
1:09:22
Otherwise, you have no context You know It
1:09:23
sounds like something maybe an episode of Star
1:09:26
Trek a group of scientists is calling for
1:09:29
a halt in research that could lead to
1:09:31
Something called mirror life.
1:09:34
Those scientists worried that the synthetic organisms that
1:09:39
Create these mirror molecules in this field of
1:09:42
research could present an unprecedented risk to all
1:09:45
life on earth That sounds rather serious.
1:09:48
Kate Ademala is one of the scientists She's
1:09:50
a synthetic biologist founder of the build a
1:09:52
cell initiative and genetics professor at the University
1:09:54
of Minnesota They'll do their Minneapolis.
1:09:55
Oh Kate.
1:09:56
Good morning Good morning, let's start with the
1:09:59
basics.
1:10:00
What do you do?
1:10:00
What is a synthetic biologist?
1:10:03
Synthetic biologist is someone who makes things out
1:10:06
of biology that biology doesn't naturally do and
1:10:10
We do that so we can expand that
1:10:12
Diversity of what we can get out of
1:10:14
biology better medicine better drugs better ways of
1:10:17
making molecules Basically making anything that a natural
1:10:22
biology didn't think of doing The mRNA vaccine
1:10:25
during the kovat pandemic is an example of
1:10:27
that, right?
1:10:28
Yes That's one of our poster child examples
1:10:30
of a successful synthetic biology project.
1:10:33
I've got my attention Yeah, I think that
1:10:36
got my attention.
1:10:37
So it seems that there's a bunch of
1:10:39
scientists out there saying we should not be
1:10:41
doing this.
1:10:42
I Think I can agree But when you
1:10:45
get into this, I mean, this is this
1:10:47
is more freaky than the drones.
1:10:49
What is what is mirror life?
1:10:52
Mirror life is the idea that you could
1:10:55
make a cell that looks exactly like a
1:10:58
normal bacteria cell But all molecules in that
1:11:01
cell would be pointing the opposite direction So
1:11:04
every biological molecule points one way or the
1:11:07
other it has a physical Conformation in space
1:11:10
and there are two possible conformations for every
1:11:13
molecule and life is very particular About what
1:11:17
direction all our molecules point?
1:11:19
If there is one Conformation that all life
1:11:23
uses and it's possible to imagine making a
1:11:26
cell where all molecules point the exactly opposite
1:11:30
Direction, that's why we call it mirror life
1:11:32
because it would be like a molecule that
1:11:33
looks at itself in a mirror Why are
1:11:36
these people doing this?
1:11:38
Are they've run out of ideas to kill
1:11:41
us well, they would hope that they could
1:11:43
come up with something that would kill us
1:11:45
faster But they This has been attempted before
1:11:51
it did this I did this all goes
1:11:53
back stems back to something in that was
1:11:55
taking place in the 50s 60s and 70s
1:11:57
Yeah, I knew you'd have context for us
1:11:59
trying to create life from scratch Mmm, that's
1:12:03
it.
1:12:03
This is something that has never been accomplished
1:12:06
and it can't be accomplished for various I
1:12:09
don't know what the reasons the cosmic reasons
1:12:12
are but it hasn't been done and it
1:12:14
seems unlikely it'll ever be done and It's
1:12:19
just it this is part of that Process
1:12:22
hope it is and it's I think it
1:12:24
stems from the thinking of matter and anti
1:12:26
matter And you have life and anti life
1:12:29
because this is basically what she's describing which
1:12:31
isn't mirroring but anti life And so this
1:12:35
is not this is bullcrap.
1:12:37
It's okay.
1:12:37
It's going nowhere good It's got an mRNA
1:12:40
has got nothing to do with this is
1:12:42
that's been a technology as Everyone's known about
1:12:45
mRNA Decades ago.
1:12:47
It's effective papers written about it, but it's
1:12:50
one of the poster children of their work
1:12:52
It says can't be a poster child for
1:12:54
what she's up to.
1:12:55
This is bull.
1:12:56
I have one clip here about why why
1:12:57
are we doing?
1:12:58
This why would somebody want to do that?
1:12:59
Yeah, why?
1:13:01
Because we we wanted to do that for
1:13:03
the same reasons why we don't want to
1:13:04
do it right now So we thought that
1:13:06
it was a great medicine.
1:13:08
We want to do it for the same
1:13:09
reasons.
1:13:09
We don't want to do it These people
1:13:12
get grants What you're talking about that what
1:13:17
you just said is the problem yeah grants
1:13:21
Come on, doge get to work Immune system
1:13:26
wouldn't freak out about it.
1:13:28
We would be able to make cell-based
1:13:30
Therapeutics that would not create adverse immune response
1:13:34
and we also could use it for biomanufacturing
1:13:37
We could use it to make molecules with
1:13:39
biology in bioreactors that are not susceptible to
1:13:43
external contaminations because we thought that they would
1:13:46
be orthogonal to viruses to predators and these
1:13:50
are exactly the reasons why now we Understand
1:13:52
we shouldn't be making it because it wouldn't
1:13:55
only be silent to immune system when we
1:13:57
want it It would always be silent to
1:13:59
immune system.
1:14:00
So it could be a pathogen that we
1:14:02
couldn't fight.
1:14:03
There you go Well, then don't do it
1:14:06
Stop playing God.
1:14:08
Don't do it.
1:14:10
These people are crazy Brought to you by
1:14:13
the same people who brought you climate change
1:14:15
Or the new the new outbreak the new
1:14:19
outbreak John the new outbreak Very mysterious virus
1:14:23
in China.
1:14:23
Have you been following the news?
1:14:26
Well, not right.
1:14:27
Yeah, but not that I don't know what
1:14:29
this is.
1:14:29
Oh, this is great So this is only
1:14:32
out of Wuhan.
1:14:33
It's only on Indian channels It's really strange
1:14:37
That the Indian news has picked this up
1:14:40
and we have a pocky shawarma Who no
1:14:43
longer works at the old place at WIO
1:14:45
and she by the way, by the way,
1:14:47
have you seen the the?
1:14:50
AI version of her.
1:14:51
No, I haven't.
1:14:52
Is it good?
1:14:54
Yeah This is not the AI version of
1:14:57
polkies.
1:14:58
I think I'm at pocky shawarma.
1:14:59
I can't remember her name But this is
1:15:02
she lays and you know, she has such
1:15:04
an authoritative voice I hate to say this
1:15:06
but it feels like 2020 all over again.
1:15:08
All right This is the way you start
1:15:10
baby overflowing hospitals and thousands of patients with
1:15:13
flu-like symptoms China is facing a new
1:15:16
health crisis a new disease outbreak Which looks
1:15:19
a lot like the Wuhan virus and as
1:15:22
always Beijing is sharing.
1:15:23
No information as always They're calling it a
1:15:26
pneumonia of unknown origin pneumonia of unknown origin
1:15:30
That's how Chinese authorities have described it Beijing
1:15:33
says it has set up systems systems to
1:15:36
monitor the outbreak If you feel like you've
1:15:38
heard this before you have From the same
1:15:41
China some four years back.
1:15:43
They're making it sound like it's just the
1:15:45
flu season We do hope it's just that
1:15:48
but sadly the pictures tell a different story.
1:15:51
Take a look at this This is believed
1:15:52
to be from a hospital in China We
1:15:55
cannot verify these pictures but several videos like
1:15:58
this one are going viral clearly there is
1:16:01
more to the story We do not wish
1:16:02
to speculate and it's exact same pictures as
1:16:06
As with kovat, you know, they've got the
1:16:08
everyone in the waiting room.
1:16:10
They've got IVs pictures in Italy Yeah, they
1:16:13
see you're seeing pictures of you know of
1:16:16
morgues everything stacking up feed the fear But
1:16:19
here is what we know so far This
1:16:21
is not a new disease experts say that
1:16:23
China is dealing with an outbreak of HMPV,
1:16:27
that's the human meta nemo virus HMPV HMPV.
1:16:32
Hey, we have a name HMPV, but it's
1:16:35
was it H or S H H M
1:16:37
human meta Nemo mnemonic Whatever is what we
1:16:42
know so far.
1:16:43
This is not a new disease experts say
1:16:46
that China is dealing with an outbreak of
1:16:49
HMPV that's the human meta.
1:16:51
Nemo virus HMPV human meta.
1:16:55
Nemo virus This virus has been around for
1:16:58
at least 60 years.
1:16:59
It is quite common and easy to catch
1:17:02
Virus this time they seem to be dealing
1:17:04
with a known disease and yet there are
1:17:07
reasons to be worried The first one is
1:17:09
the scale of the outbreak.
1:17:10
It is a massive scale cases have been
1:17:13
reported in multiple cities across China, Beijing Tianjin
1:17:17
Shanghai and inner Mongolia these five areas have
1:17:20
reported the highest number of cases But we
1:17:23
don't know about the actual caseload as usual
1:17:25
China has not shared any data, so we
1:17:28
don't know how much worse it could become
1:17:30
So every single Indian Channel had this I'll
1:17:33
just play just a brief little bit here
1:17:36
So you get a little taste for it.
1:17:38
This is China News 18 Welcome back and
1:17:42
well viewers five years after the kovat 19
1:17:44
pandemic Which first originated from China China once
1:17:48
again is witnessing an outbreak of the human
1:17:51
meta Nemo virus or the HMPV according to
1:17:54
reports and social media posts hospitals are overcrowded
1:17:57
with infected individuals and crematories also Some social
1:18:03
media users in fact claim that multiple viruses
1:18:05
including influenza And then we have Wion the
1:18:11
Beijing is denied reports on social media posts
1:18:13
that China is experiencing a rise in respiratory
1:18:16
illnesses including human Meta-neumovirus also known as
1:18:20
the HMPV.
1:18:21
So everyone's got the same.
1:18:23
Well, it's the social media posts.
1:18:24
It's the same thing I don't know why
1:18:26
they're trying to do this maybe because they're
1:18:28
the guys who make the most Ivermectin or
1:18:31
something and I would have dismissed all of
1:18:33
this word not for this late-breaking news
1:18:35
report That is read in a very boring
1:18:37
voice from Euronews European Commission president Ursula von
1:18:41
der Leyen has cancer their engagements for the
1:18:43
first two weeks of January after falling sick
1:18:46
According to an official announcement by her office.
1:18:49
The EU Commission president has been diagnosed with
1:18:52
severe pneumonia Queen Ursula is down Severe pneumonia
1:19:00
Hmm I don't know on the horizon Could
1:19:05
be could be there's no vaccine for HMPV
1:19:09
Yet not yet.
1:19:10
Not yet Meanwhile in America, we finally latched
1:19:14
on to the branding what some people are
1:19:15
terming the quad Demick of infectious diseases hitting
1:19:18
hard this season joining us now is dr
1:19:21
Stephanie Whitmer with more on how to stay
1:19:23
healthy doctor.
1:19:24
Good morning to you.
1:19:25
It's great to have you Thank you guys
1:19:26
for having me Viral syndrome, yeah, I want
1:19:30
to jump right into some of the numbers
1:19:31
here as we get into it because Covid
1:19:35
RSV norovirus making the rounds this winter RSV
1:19:38
cases.
1:19:39
What when we when they add HMPV will
1:19:41
it be the quinn Demick?
1:19:44
You're gonna have trouble naming it.
1:19:45
Yeah higher than they were this time of
1:19:47
year last year Five states reporting high or
1:19:51
very high levels of respiratory illness and the
1:19:54
CDC estimates that there have been at least
1:19:55
5.3 million illnesses 63,000 hospitalizations and
1:20:00
2,700 deaths from the flu so far
1:20:03
this season that's actually low for flu.
1:20:05
That's low Normally, it's 20,000 deaths.
1:20:09
So we just mentioned earlier people calling this
1:20:11
a quad Demick Is it really an accurate
1:20:13
description and how would you explain what's really
1:20:16
going on?
1:20:16
So this term quad Demick it refers to
1:20:20
the convergence of high levels of just like
1:20:22
you said flu Covid RSV and this norovirus
1:20:25
and there are multiple factors at play here
1:20:29
different social Environmental biologic factors that are causing
1:20:33
these numbers that you know in New York
1:20:35
It's not unprecedented to see high levels of
1:20:37
viral syndromes, especially during the winter when there's
1:20:39
indoor crowding increased travel Lots of different gatherings,
1:20:44
but there are other factors at play here
1:20:46
such as viral evolution new strains that emerge
1:20:49
Lots of different things lots of different things.
1:20:52
And this is I have another report here,
1:20:54
which is where's this from?
1:20:57
From Philadelphia, they bring in a doctor because
1:21:01
you know this stuff you got to be
1:21:03
careful with this This is this is not
1:21:04
just stuff that just is out there You're
1:21:07
leaving these clips short because I don't believe
1:21:10
you have any of these clips especially from
1:21:11
the United States that don't promote Vaccination after
1:21:14
the clip is over.
1:21:16
Oh, no, I have it.
1:21:17
I mean I if you wanted I'd be
1:21:19
Sure, it's there Three more clips from a
1:21:25
bit from Good Morning America alone.
1:21:27
I mean here you can hear about the
1:21:28
prevention So you mentioned some of the remedies
1:21:30
there, but what about prevention?
1:21:32
So prevention is key One thing that's very
1:21:36
important if you haven't gotten your flu vaccine
1:21:37
or It is not too late Hand washing
1:21:45
is huge with this norovirus.
1:21:47
So hand sanitizer may not be a hundred
1:21:49
percent effective for norovirus.
1:21:50
So washing your hands Yes, because a lot
1:21:54
of these viruses can live on surfaces so
1:21:56
washing Things like that are huge for prevention.
1:22:02
Yes Sitting there on the surface.
1:22:04
Oh, but wait, there's another way you can
1:22:06
catch some of these viruses It's a doozy.
1:22:10
We're going to ABC, Philadelphia Well, you may
1:22:12
have noticed perhaps in your family at school
1:22:15
or at work Lots of people are getting
1:22:16
sick these days the holiday gatherings and an
1:22:19
uptick in viruses going around this time of
1:22:21
year causing a spread And a spike actually
1:22:23
news reporter Maggie Kenton joining us now live
1:22:25
in with what doctors are saying about this
1:22:27
today, Maggie All right.
1:22:29
How can you get this stuff?
1:22:30
Well, yeah, as you mentioned Brian as the
1:22:31
holiday parties wind down as people stop traveling
1:22:34
and get back to work in school Wait,
1:22:36
hold on a second The other doctor says
1:22:39
everyone's traveling and now this woman says they're
1:22:42
not traveling She's not a doctor.
1:22:43
Can they make up their minds with their
1:22:44
message?
1:22:45
She's not a doctor She's just leading into
1:22:46
the package.
1:22:47
As people stop traveling and get back to
1:22:49
work in school That's when we're seeing the
1:22:51
uptick of both respiratory and GI illnesses.
1:22:54
Here we go It's time to get back
1:22:56
to reality the busy holiday travel rush and
1:22:59
party season is winding down But flu COVID
1:23:03
and norovirus season.
1:23:05
Well, it's spiking.
1:23:06
We see it We see these respiratory viruses
1:23:09
spread through coughing loud talking Sneezing.
1:23:12
Did you hear that?
1:23:15
The respiratory virus has spread through coughing and
1:23:18
loud talking.
1:23:19
I Didn't hear the loud talking COVID and
1:23:23
norovirus season.
1:23:24
Well, it's spiking.
1:23:26
We see it.
1:23:27
We see these respiratory viruses spread through coughing
1:23:29
loud-talking sneezing No loud talking no and
1:23:38
we need signs We need a mask sign
1:23:41
and then a no loud talking sign.
1:23:43
Certainly no podcast is that I think that's
1:23:45
racist No loud talking But why is that
1:23:50
racist because black people in the theater no,
1:23:54
they talk loud.
1:23:54
Yes.
1:23:55
Yes They're always heckling and laughing and joking
1:23:57
around Spreading my booming voices.
1:24:00
Yes spreading virus Very good assumption there.
1:24:05
Yep So this mania is ludicrous, I don't
1:24:10
know anyone who's sick by the way You're
1:24:12
the closest and you had this bird flu
1:24:15
or whatever it was.
1:24:16
I picked it up in Europe You know,
1:24:17
I got and you got in Europe.
1:24:18
We're just sick.
1:24:20
I gave it to Ursula Yeah.
1:24:23
Oh, yeah, maybe yeah Do they ever talk
1:24:26
about smooching?
1:24:28
No, no, but remember that weird.
1:24:31
They would say you think they're all the
1:24:32
coughing and loud-talking.
1:24:34
What about what about kissing on the lips
1:24:37
Do you remember?
1:24:40
During kovat when they said you could have
1:24:43
sex, but you had you couldn't kiss and
1:24:45
you need to have a mask And I
1:24:47
don't remember that.
1:24:49
Yes.
1:24:49
I'm wondering if I still have a clip
1:24:51
of the whole thing is ludicrous Yeah, there
1:24:54
was something about I think they should bring
1:24:56
it into these these discussions.
1:24:57
No kissing No kissing no kissing stop it
1:25:04
no more kissing brother Don't shake hands with
1:25:09
people.
1:25:09
That's how most of it spread You bow
1:25:12
learn to bow I did pick up a
1:25:14
new meme a new meme that's kind of
1:25:16
been around but there it's picking up again
1:25:18
regarding the h-1b visa because of course
1:25:20
the the media is all saying that well,
1:25:23
you know We need to we need to
1:25:26
bring people in.
1:25:27
You know, these Republicans are crazy.
1:25:28
They just hate immigrants They don't like any
1:25:30
kind of immigrants.
1:25:31
They're just they're just moving it towards a
1:25:34
political narrative but They're now using a great
1:25:40
term I think to say to to Let
1:25:44
every people everyone know why we need to
1:25:47
have h-1b workers Here's a little supercut
1:25:49
not because they're cheaper But because they are
1:25:52
truly the best and brightest the best and
1:25:53
brightest best and brightest Is that a fair
1:25:55
characterization?
1:25:56
Certainly some of the best and brightest extraordinarily
1:25:58
profitable and the best and brightest and the
1:26:00
best and brightest Silicon Valley leaders are calling
1:26:03
on the best and the brightest they are
1:26:05
the best and the brightest the hardest working
1:26:09
really attracts some of our best and brightest
1:26:12
best and brightest the world's best and brightest
1:26:15
the best and the brightest the best and
1:26:17
the brightest the Best and the brightest best
1:26:18
and brightest brightest integrate with my best and
1:26:21
brightest hardest working best and brightest from Almost
1:26:25
every country in the world.
1:26:26
They are the best and the brightest best
1:26:29
and brightest Celebrating the best and the brightest
1:26:32
from around the world the best and brightest
1:26:35
Welcome the best and the brightest the White
1:26:37
House just announced that is bringing in the
1:26:39
best and brightest and what we have done
1:26:41
year after years open our doors To the
1:26:44
best and brightest the best and brightest the
1:26:47
best and brightest You know, it's like these
1:26:49
we play these clips for the last 10
1:26:51
almost 20 years now It's always of these
1:26:54
of these things and it's just this it's
1:26:57
so annoying that they all It's like the
1:27:00
mainstream media is no good They're just no
1:27:04
good.
1:27:05
They dropped the ball I don't know when
1:27:07
they dropped the ball, but I think it
1:27:08
was way before our show show started We
1:27:10
always like kind of picked up on it.
1:27:12
Yeah along with everybody else who you know
1:27:14
condemns them, but it this has been going
1:27:16
on too long There's no creativity.
1:27:19
There's no Originality, they all just mock about
1:27:23
parrot each other.
1:27:24
Yeah, it's it's it's horrible Are you even
1:27:26
watching Jesse waters anymore?
1:27:28
Probably not Well, here's the thing I'm just
1:27:32
my analysis of Fox in general Fox is
1:27:36
got about six shows.
1:27:39
They do they do the five they do
1:27:40
the Morning show they do bread bar.
1:27:43
They do the Jesse waters.
1:27:45
They do Tannedy.
1:27:46
They do Laura Terry Ingram, they do all
1:27:49
the show each show is identical They have
1:27:54
the exact and right at the gut felt
1:27:56
you must have just watched gut felt and
1:27:57
get a laugh out of it Because every
1:27:59
show has got the exact same news story
1:28:02
it starts off at the same alert It
1:28:05
has the same they have they will have
1:28:07
they'll have different guests, but it's the same
1:28:09
story Yeah, and so each show just reiterates
1:28:13
whatever the other show.
1:28:14
It's just it's it's a horrible network Yeah,
1:28:19
I guess if you watch one show you
1:28:21
okay if you want to watch one show
1:28:23
or it may be even two on Fox
1:28:26
that's it.
1:28:27
If you watch Fox all day, you're just
1:28:29
watching the same material over and over and
1:28:31
over just re Repackaged very slightly.
1:28:34
It's it's it's terrible.
1:28:37
It there's no better than the mainstream media.
1:28:39
They are the mainstream media Yeah, they are
1:28:40
they are the the ratings reflected everyone's moving
1:28:43
to podcast podcast is it baby?
1:28:45
That's where it is That's where you can
1:28:46
get your message out open microphone.
1:28:48
You can tell everybody that's right and and
1:28:50
YouTube is the place to be That's just
1:28:52
ask Chris Cuomo Man I'm so I'm so
1:28:55
happy we chose this path It's so much
1:28:58
better as opposed to what as opposed to
1:29:01
having to be posting YouTube shorts I can
1:29:05
just see hey John It was a great
1:29:07
show.
1:29:07
We just did and it's already posted on
1:29:09
YouTube and now we have to do the
1:29:10
shorts so And we got to do a
1:29:14
couple of tick tocks And we got to
1:29:17
do some reels so we can otherwise the
1:29:19
algo won't pick it up speaking of which
1:29:22
A lot of people up in arms the
1:29:26
Elon Musk is changing the algo He's changing
1:29:31
the algo there's a scandal going on about
1:29:33
the elgo now because they've asked rock about
1:29:36
it Yes comics for blogger did that you
1:29:40
see now good for him?
1:29:41
Yeah So grok grok revealed the fact that
1:29:44
you get up great and down greatest with
1:29:46
all the crap that was going on before
1:29:48
Elon is still going on and only now
1:29:50
it's just skewed differently I will say they
1:29:53
that even though my numbers I can't get
1:29:56
him I can't get mine at one iota
1:29:59
past what mine is.
1:30:01
No, there's like it's like they have a
1:30:03
limit It's like a day.
1:30:04
What's the number on his well, let's limit
1:30:07
it at 102.4. What do you have?
1:30:10
That's mine.
1:30:10
I have 102.4 is me.
1:30:12
What Oh 2.4 FM.
1:30:13
I'm it can always at 96.2 Never
1:30:22
That's my number and My numbers a little
1:30:26
bit higher frequencies a little better frequency a
1:30:28
better quality.
1:30:29
You're in the classic rock section up there
1:30:31
and 1.4. I'm I'm in the NPR
1:30:35
level.
1:30:36
I'm it's called radio 0.4. Yeah, you're
1:30:39
done in PR public radio actually 96.
1:30:42
That's top 40, baby I'm in top 40
1:30:44
land So we had so this so this
1:30:48
seems to be that you're right I've noticed
1:30:50
this too and it's like it's so it's
1:30:52
that's a scam of some sort and they
1:30:54
can't do anything about that Well, the big
1:30:56
thing is I think if I started from
1:30:58
scratch today, I could get my numbers higher
1:31:00
Well, the big thing is this this metric
1:31:03
called?
1:31:04
unregretted user seconds That's the big metric Which
1:31:09
means that you get regretted user seconds when
1:31:13
people are engaged with your content but don't
1:31:16
engage so if they're not liking if they're
1:31:18
not looking at more that means they regretted
1:31:21
looking at you and Then you that counts
1:31:24
as un as regretted user seconds So they're
1:31:27
looking for unregretted user seconds, which forces you
1:31:31
to do incredibly high value content Which is
1:31:34
the antithesis of?
1:31:36
What social media is?
1:31:38
Social media is the narcissists narcissist outlet There's
1:31:43
nothing to do with with quality content And
1:31:48
it's all the narcissist stuff's the best now.
1:31:51
I want to bring it back around to
1:31:52
the promise clip I do every I'm gonna
1:31:55
do every show until Trump gets actually put
1:31:57
in office because according to these people he's
1:32:00
not gonna make Yes, yes, the Lulu the
1:32:02
Lulu Lulu Lulu say that he's never gonna
1:32:05
get and Kamala's gonna be our president So
1:32:08
we have the latest this week's the Lulu
1:32:10
clip.
1:32:10
I have it right here ready for you
1:32:12
to play Okay, is this number two is
1:32:14
what this says?
1:32:16
Yes, this will be the second of the
1:32:17
series.
1:32:18
Okay.
1:32:19
Yeah, the news is hitting It's looking like
1:32:30
It's all right, it's gonna work out for
1:32:32
us y'all I've been worried I've been
1:32:34
nervous I've been sick every since November 4th,
1:32:39
I have not been able to look at
1:32:41
TV.
1:32:42
I haven't been making videos.
1:32:43
I just had to walk away Today for
1:32:46
the very first time I heard on CNN
1:32:50
I heard them discussing what is happening and
1:32:54
it is turning in our favor guys They
1:32:57
are looking at this shit, and they know
1:33:00
that it wasn't right.
1:33:01
They know that we got cheated.
1:33:03
Oh, no, he stole it And they had
1:33:07
laid the trap already they already laid the
1:33:11
trap and it's coming back Mr. Gardner, thank
1:33:16
you so much This is amazing.
1:33:19
We needed this we needed this we need
1:33:22
you at this moment and at this time
1:33:25
glory to God Mama, we miss you.
1:33:30
Where you at?
1:33:31
Come on out here.
1:33:31
Talk to us This reminds me a bit
1:33:34
of the quantum dots Totally the same.
1:33:38
It's the same script flipped.
1:33:40
It's good.
1:33:41
It's set up.
1:33:42
It was he was a trap Who was
1:33:44
mr.
1:33:45
Gardner?
1:33:45
Who was that?
1:33:46
I don't know.
1:33:46
I couldn't figure it out hmm Some guy
1:33:51
who came out and I don't know what
1:33:52
he said, whatever it was.
1:33:54
She misinterpreted I think I don't know Maybe
1:33:56
this all I know is there's a lot
1:33:57
of black women making these videos going on
1:34:00
and on About how Trump's not getting in
1:34:02
there.
1:34:02
There's a few white guys to that one
1:34:04
guy I got played before I got a
1:34:07
lot of responses to my narcissist Yes, well
1:34:12
you should I think it's a thesis that
1:34:14
we will continue to To pound home until
1:34:17
it goes away at which it won't well,
1:34:19
let me lay this on you There is
1:34:22
a correlation between narcissism and Marxism While Fundamentally
1:34:30
different concept explain while fundamentally different concepts one
1:34:34
being socio political ideology in the other psychological
1:34:37
condition There are intersections how they relate to
1:34:41
individual identity power dynamics and cultural critiques the
1:34:47
discussion often revolves around how societal structures influence
1:34:50
personal behaviors and vice versa and there's and
1:34:53
there's a lot of Different pieces of research
1:34:56
and in fact a very large PDF That
1:34:59
I couldn't even get through but yes there's
1:35:04
a lot of Research has been done on
1:35:08
the connection between these two and it kind
1:35:10
of makes sense if you have a very
1:35:12
narcissistic Society, it's probably easier to introduce Marxism
1:35:16
into that Why?
1:35:19
Why would it be easier?
1:35:21
Well, it seems like if you're if you're
1:35:24
completely consumed with yourself and not with anybody
1:35:28
else You're just open to doing what people
1:35:31
tell you to do for your for your
1:35:34
for your brand For your likes, I think
1:35:39
I think your basis is is correct I
1:35:41
think you might be more susceptible, but I
1:35:43
don't know if that's the mechanism Well someone
1:35:46
out there knows this stuff because enough people
1:35:48
have emailed me about it, but it couldn't
1:35:50
quite bring it home for me Let me
1:35:54
see I had a let me see that
1:35:55
I have a Guess not No, I'm I'm
1:36:01
all over this still.
1:36:02
I'm so I think we should yeah No,
1:36:04
I knew well you should be because we're
1:36:05
gonna get not especially with my clips Yeah,
1:36:08
you get nothing but this sort of thing
1:36:10
because I just I love it Let's talk
1:36:13
about I got a little bit another presentation
1:36:15
since the other one failed This was I
1:36:18
thought a pretty good rundown on pig butchering
1:36:20
PBS finally got a clue finally How long
1:36:23
have we been talking about pig butchering?
1:36:25
Two years two years at least Yeah, they
1:36:29
find but I thought their summary was pretty
1:36:31
decent and they and they really made it
1:36:33
more pathetic than it is And it brings
1:36:35
back to me The whole idea of where's
1:36:38
our law enforcement, especially when you listen to
1:36:41
the numbers?
1:36:42
Yeah, that are the number not the number
1:36:44
of people.
1:36:45
There's hundreds of thousands I guess but just
1:36:48
the sheer volume of dollars that have been
1:36:52
scammed from the America the worldwide public and
1:36:55
Law enforcement's not doing anything about it But
1:36:58
they do a bit they do they don't
1:37:00
even do a decent job in Oakland of
1:37:01
stopping the guy robbing a gas station But
1:37:03
this is the law enforcement is not doing
1:37:06
its job pig butchering PBS many believe we're
1:37:09
living in the golden age of scams Job
1:37:14
scams even the most skeptical among us are
1:37:17
falling prey to increasingly sophisticated frauds One particular
1:37:22
scam called pig butchering has cost victims around
1:37:25
the world an estimated 75 billion dollars in
1:37:29
just the last four years I wrote more
1:37:31
on what it is and how to avoid
1:37:33
it pig butchering investment scams have exploded over
1:37:37
the last few years Named for the practice
1:37:39
of farmers fattening hogs before slaughter The scheme
1:37:42
often starts with a simple hi or a
1:37:45
seemingly innocent wrong number text on messaging platforms
1:37:48
like whatsapp Before they catch on victims can
1:37:51
lose hundreds of thousands and even millions of
1:37:53
dollars in 2023 alone Americans reported losing four
1:37:57
point six billion dollars to an investment schemes
1:38:00
And it's not just the targets that are
1:38:02
being harmed the imposters on the other end
1:38:04
of the line are often human trafficking victims
1:38:07
Forced to run the scheme by large crime
1:38:09
syndicates in Asia Aaron West is a former
1:38:12
deputy district attorney in Santa Clara County, California
1:38:15
Aaron, thank you so much for being here
1:38:16
How do these schemes play out and what
1:38:19
sort of psychological tactics do these scammers use
1:38:22
to trick people Wow?
1:38:23
Welcome to the party PBS jeez They're fine
1:38:29
This is goes you know that I guess
1:38:32
I do over the phones a lot But
1:38:33
so this happened to well attempt was happened
1:38:36
to me on LinkedIn Let me guess let
1:38:41
me guess hey How you doing, it's been
1:38:44
a while since we met at that conference
1:38:46
Cute no, it's actually different profile No, it
1:38:49
was different because the pictures are already in
1:38:52
LinkedIn of the people Yeah, and so and
1:38:54
it was an Asian woman.
1:38:55
They talk about in the next clip about
1:38:57
this mostly Asian.
1:38:58
Yes, and so they said Pretty Asian girl
1:39:01
it that was head of some company or
1:39:04
something.
1:39:04
Oh, you know, I like your profile Yeah,
1:39:06
I think we do business.
1:39:07
I'm It went on and on So I
1:39:10
think so I sent back to her says
1:39:12
I don't know what kind of business you
1:39:13
think I'm in but you know What tell
1:39:16
me more so I love one of the
1:39:17
leader on this It's like so I but
1:39:19
her I found what company she was with
1:39:22
and I looked it up on LinkedIn and
1:39:23
there was a bunch of people Different names
1:39:26
from that company because you can do a
1:39:27
reverse search just company only and many of
1:39:30
them had her same picture with different names
1:39:33
So I mean this was so obvious pretty
1:39:36
obvious, yeah, and so you can mention it
1:39:38
to her like yeah, you know You look
1:39:40
just like this other woman almost identical.
1:39:42
In fact, the photos like exactly the same
1:39:44
Is that you and then you did book
1:39:46
click?
1:39:47
So I had a I've been getting these
1:39:49
phone calls another scam as goes on it
1:39:52
was his phone calls and this could keep
1:39:54
calling about PG&E giving me a discount
1:39:56
on my bill and $50 return and so
1:40:00
the latest one which just has happened in
1:40:03
the last couple of days is a Recording
1:40:06
that comes on.
1:40:07
It's a it's a or it's a phony
1:40:09
voice a AI voice that says are you
1:40:11
there?
1:40:14
Are you there And it keeps repeating this
1:40:17
until you say yes.
1:40:18
Hello and then click No, and then it
1:40:21
goes.
1:40:21
Hi.
1:40:22
Hi.
1:40:22
I'm Ellen or whoever it is from PG
1:40:25
&E We want to give you a discount
1:40:27
on your bill.
1:40:28
Is that something you want?
1:40:29
Yes.
1:40:30
Oh Let me send you to our Hold
1:40:33
on.
1:40:34
Well, I transfer the call.
1:40:35
That's not majoring.
1:40:37
That's not pig butcher.
1:40:38
No, I know but I'm just talking about
1:40:39
general this is the age of scams and
1:40:42
These these the pig butchers do the same
1:40:44
thing when it comes to how you respond
1:40:48
So the guy comes on he says you
1:40:50
got a discount coming got 120 bucks do
1:40:54
He says, how would you like it?
1:40:56
How would you like the money?
1:40:57
Would you like it and your credit card
1:40:59
or your checking account?
1:41:00
How would you like it?
1:41:01
Yeah, and so I wish I had I
1:41:04
gotta start recording these cuz it did hate
1:41:05
cuz I say Oh, we'll just put it
1:41:07
on my bill as a credit click It
1:41:11
was like this thing.
1:41:12
But that's just a regular scam here.
1:41:14
I'm gonna read a few from my for
1:41:15
my text messages Hey long time now see
1:41:18
how you feeling these days.
1:41:20
No, these real.
1:41:21
Yeah, these are real.
1:41:22
Yeah Yeah, here's another one good morning, do
1:41:26
you have any new plans today From who
1:41:29
well, it's just random numbers Here's one that
1:41:34
just says hello.
1:41:35
These are all yeah what you're described.
1:41:37
These are all prop potential pig butchering Potential
1:41:40
these are pig butchering number messages.
1:41:43
Did you have a rest today?
1:41:45
I didn't see you at the meeting That's
1:41:48
a good one, that's a good one.
1:41:50
Let me see what There's a lot of
1:41:53
Recruiter type things.
1:41:55
I mean you get at least one a
1:41:58
day if not more Really, but I know
1:42:01
why I know this So what never really
1:42:04
once the political messages went away that my
1:42:08
number got sold to the pig butchering people
1:42:12
And I'm sure that most of the political
1:42:14
texts were scams as well.
1:42:16
Yeah, a lot of them.
1:42:17
I'm sure most of them are Let me
1:42:20
see if I can find another one this
1:42:21
quickly because I Miss the meeting.
1:42:25
I'd like to miss the meeting one What's
1:42:28
this?
1:42:28
Wow, I can't believe what is this?
1:42:30
No, that's not one Why did you skip
1:42:34
the morning meeting That's a good one, that's
1:42:38
pretty good a lot of it just hello
1:42:39
and usually it's like do you want to
1:42:41
play tennis?
1:42:42
Are we still on for tennis today?
1:42:46
Yeah, well, let's get to your next clip,
1:42:48
okay, big to the way victims are usually
1:42:51
contacted is they receive What appears to be
1:42:54
a wrong number text?
1:42:55
Yeah, and those have gotten increasingly clever They're
1:42:58
doing anything they can to just get your
1:43:00
attention long enough to respond so that they
1:43:03
can drop in a picture of Usually an
1:43:06
attractive young Asian female who will say hi.
1:43:09
My name is Jessica.
1:43:10
I hope I'm not bothering you We're finding
1:43:13
that people will respond to that and they
1:43:16
will start engaging in conversation with a Jessica
1:43:18
Who over the next 90 days will sell
1:43:22
a dream of being with her and her?
1:43:26
Fancy elevated lifestyle and then what happens over
1:43:29
time is they get these victims to invest
1:43:31
in cryptocurrency Like the scammer purports that she
1:43:34
did that's how she became wealthy and our
1:43:37
victims will invest a little bit and they
1:43:39
will see it They'll see a false dashboard
1:43:42
showing their Exponential increase in value and that
1:43:46
will lead them to invest more and more
1:43:48
until ultimately They have invested every penny they
1:43:51
have they believe they're rich and that they're
1:43:53
gonna end up with the girl Only to
1:43:55
find out that it was all a facade
1:43:58
and they've lost everything.
1:43:59
So here's one Hey, we didn't meet for
1:44:02
a long time.
1:44:03
Where where are you live right now?
1:44:07
Where are you I'm gonna answer this one
1:44:09
answer this one I'll say I live in
1:44:11
Austin now.
1:44:12
Who's this?
1:44:13
Okay, I'll just hit that Let's see if
1:44:14
we get a response and then we'll listen
1:44:15
to pig three in the meantime What do
1:44:17
we know about where these scams are coming
1:44:19
from and who's behind them?
1:44:21
What we know is that these scams are
1:44:22
coming primarily from Southeast Asia They're being run
1:44:26
by primarily Chinese organized crime Although the Yakuza
1:44:30
has now gotten involved in Korean organized crime
1:44:33
after seeing how lucrative this is They've built
1:44:37
compounds that are akin to small cities Built
1:44:40
for the express purpose of fleecing the rest
1:44:43
of the world of their money It's massive
1:44:45
and growing the target also isn't always the
1:44:49
only victim here The people who are on
1:44:52
the other end of the phone or the
1:44:54
computer are also in many cases Victims of
1:44:58
human trafficking themselves.
1:45:00
How does that play into all of this?
1:45:02
We have literally never seen a world crisis
1:45:05
like this We've got Americans and people all
1:45:09
over the world who've lost all their money
1:45:11
and then on the other side We have
1:45:14
human trafficked victims that are forced to do
1:45:16
this dirty work in order to fill these
1:45:19
Compounds where the dirty work is done The
1:45:23
organized criminals needed to bring in a workforce
1:45:25
and to do that Constructed websites that look
1:45:29
very authentic and they offer up jobs in
1:45:32
Southeast Asia And so people from all over
1:45:36
apply for these jobs thinking they're getting a
1:45:38
really nice Work opportunity and when they get
1:45:41
there their passports are seized They're put in
1:45:44
buses and they are moved to these compounds
1:45:47
where they are Surrounded with men with ak
1:45:50
-47s and they are locked down and forced
1:45:54
to do this dirty work 17 hours a
1:45:56
day Dirty work.
1:45:58
So this phone number is no longer in
1:46:00
service.
1:46:00
That's a bummer.
1:46:01
Here's another one Hey long time.
1:46:04
No, see, how are you feeling these days?
1:46:05
I'm doing great.
1:46:06
Who is this?
1:46:07
See if that one works So after this
1:46:13
like the third clip, there's a big series
1:46:14
of discussions of how they beat the crap
1:46:17
out of these poor slaves Yeah, and it
1:46:20
goes on and on and then we had
1:46:22
we find it finish it up with this
1:46:23
last clip But this whole thing is like
1:46:26
this has to be state-sponsored at some
1:46:29
even though it's gangs There's no way that
1:46:33
people can do this without some corruption at
1:46:36
the state level Well, I got a hit
1:46:38
I can see the person is typing back
1:46:39
to me Well, let's get to that before
1:46:42
we played the last clip.
1:46:44
Well, it's started.
1:46:45
Okay, let's play a last clip Yeah, we'll
1:46:46
see if we get an answer.
1:46:48
Yeah, this era is not the time to
1:46:50
be making new friends on social media That's
1:46:55
the final really Social media is by far
1:47:00
the problem is text message this this is
1:47:04
the big problem and and it's all the
1:47:06
yes, you're right, there's a lot of Companies
1:47:09
and organizations particularly in states where this is
1:47:12
not well regulated and they let anybody into
1:47:15
the phone network You know, it's the S
1:47:17
is system 7.
1:47:18
That's the whole problem system 7 once you're
1:47:20
in there You couldn't make up numbers.
1:47:22
You can send as many different text messages
1:47:24
as you want and just go on and
1:47:26
on and on That's what it is You
1:47:29
should also be stopped at that level.
1:47:31
You should also probably have to give up
1:47:33
on this international stuff Yes, just cut it
1:47:35
off.
1:47:36
Yep Cut off international text cut off international
1:47:40
contact Cut it off Ah Get a sat
1:47:47
phone if you want to talk to someone
1:47:48
overseas back to ham radio people So, I
1:47:53
don't know this person was typing and now
1:47:55
I've got no message I don't know if
1:47:57
I got hit in the head.
1:47:58
I want to talk about musk for a
1:47:59
second Because he's he's doing stuff he's doing
1:48:05
stuff out in the world and And it's
1:48:09
and it's being noticed by international media.
1:48:12
Here's Deutsche Bella We'll take building there Elon
1:48:14
Musk is planning a live online discussion next
1:48:17
week with the candidate for Chancellor of the
1:48:19
far-right alternative for Germany party Alice vital
1:48:23
the chat is expected to take place on
1:48:25
musk's platform X It is his latest endorsement
1:48:29
of the AFD ahead of Germany's general election
1:48:32
on February 23rd Last weekend musk caused outrage
1:48:36
when he described the far-right party as
1:48:38
the country's last Spark of hope and an
1:48:42
opinion piece in a German newspaper political leaders
1:48:45
in Germany have accused him of election interference
1:48:48
Considering his close relationship with US President elect
1:48:51
Donald Trump So that was Deutsche Bella the
1:48:55
BBC went in a little bit deeper on
1:48:57
this the Chancellor Olaf Schultz told a German
1:48:59
magazine He's staying cool about Elon Musk's activities
1:49:02
He added it's the will of citizens that
1:49:05
counts not the erratic statements of a billionaire
1:49:07
Elon Musk has previously described him as a
1:49:11
fool and recently penned a controversial opinion piece
1:49:14
endorsing Alternativa for Deutschland or the AFD the
1:49:19
AFD is a far-right party That's even
1:49:21
classed as extremist in certain German states by
1:49:24
domestic intelligence Mr. Musk dismissed such allegations and
1:49:29
claimed he'd earned the right to speak out
1:49:31
on German politics because of his significant investments
1:49:34
in the EU's largest economy Notably, mr Musk's
1:49:38
electric car making brand Tesla has a huge
1:49:41
factory in the eastern state of Brandenburg just
1:49:43
outside Berlin Now this coming week.
1:49:46
Mr Musk is expected to hold a live
1:49:49
online discussion with the AFD's candidate for Chancellor
1:49:52
Alice Weidel This all comes just weeks ahead
1:49:55
of Germany's snap federal election The vote will
1:49:59
take place on February the 23rd following the
1:50:02
collapse of Germany's bickering three-way Coalition that
1:50:05
comprised of Chancellor Schultz's Social Democrats the Greens
1:50:09
and the FDP liberals the AFD Despite polling
1:50:12
second has little prospect of taking power because
1:50:16
other parties won't work with it Well, Olaf
1:50:18
Schultz's chances of retaining the chancellery have long
1:50:21
looked slim Nevertheless, Germany looks set to be
1:50:24
the next electoral testing ground for Elon Musk's
1:50:28
apparent willingness to wade in to national politics
1:50:32
Elon Musk has also Tweeted out slashed out
1:50:36
to King Charles that he should dissolve this
1:50:39
Parliament and Nigel Farage should be removed as
1:50:44
the head of the Freedom Party Freedom Party.
1:50:46
Is that his party?
1:50:48
Because Raj yes, he's he's all he's all
1:50:51
against Farage now.
1:50:52
Well, that's interesting What it would brought that
1:50:55
about I wonder the rape of Britain Because
1:50:58
Farage said something was okay So Tommy Robinson
1:51:04
Who of course brought this to light, but
1:51:07
I think he's in jail now for for
1:51:08
ten years because he's such a dangerous guy
1:51:10
He's in and out of jail.
1:51:12
Very very dangerous.
1:51:13
Supposedly.
1:51:14
Yes.
1:51:14
I don't know that he's ever been either
1:51:17
Sir, Brian of London knows though You know,
1:51:21
he's the one that said, you know, these
1:51:23
Pakistani gangs were raping, you know up to
1:51:26
250,000 girls up in the north of
1:51:29
England From the late 80s into the but
1:51:32
maybe into the 2000s till now and And
1:51:36
so Nigel Farage isn't either isn't taking that
1:51:39
Seriously enough or you know, and so what
1:51:42
this does is it breeds all kinds of
1:51:44
other theories?
1:51:45
One of the theories being that just like
1:51:48
Elon is now going to ouster We'll see
1:51:50
if it happens Farage that eventually he and
1:51:54
Peter Thiel And in all the JD Vance
1:51:57
gang, they're all gonna turn on Trump and
1:51:59
get him kicked out.
1:52:01
Yeah I know it's great It's great But
1:52:09
why well Why Musk is what why is
1:52:13
he doing this?
1:52:14
Why what is he?
1:52:15
Well, that's what I'm saying I was gonna
1:52:16
say it's starting to look more and more
1:52:18
like some sort of that You know, we
1:52:20
say it too often on this show, but
1:52:22
this is starting to look like some sort
1:52:23
of a psyop And must seems to be
1:52:27
representing something.
1:52:28
I mean, there's no reason for him to
1:52:30
be doing so much at that Political stuff
1:52:34
as he's doing unless he's like being run
1:52:37
by someone but who?
1:52:39
Well, I would have to think that if
1:52:42
we only knew yes Yes, if we only
1:52:44
knew if we only knew we only knew
1:52:46
but he's definitely out there.
1:52:49
He's risking his life he's causing trouble here
1:52:53
and there and Entertaining as hell.
1:52:57
Mm-hmm.
1:52:58
I Just some of it doesn't make sense
1:52:59
the Farage things one of them, but you
1:53:01
know, who knows Farage's fishy character anyway, and
1:53:06
Tommy Robinson's a fishy character.
1:53:08
This everything is sketchy Well, how about the
1:53:13
typhoon gangs we have all this salt typhoon
1:53:16
we've got the The Flax typhoon I think
1:53:21
is the latest this one this made the
1:53:24
news But I think because of you know
1:53:26
The cyber trucker and New Orleans and no
1:53:28
one really paid much attention to it except
1:53:30
our man Ali Velshi over there at MSNBC.
1:53:33
I want to turn now to a hugely
1:53:34
consequential but largely overlooked story That's been unwinding
1:53:37
this week in dramatic fashion China's escalating cyber
1:53:41
espionage campaign against the US and its allies
1:53:43
on Friday the US announced sanctions against China's
1:53:47
Integrity technology group a Beijing based cyber security
1:53:50
firm over its alleged links to the hacking
1:53:53
group flax Typhoon, which has been accused of
1:53:56
carrying out a litany of cyber attacks on
1:53:58
Americans in recent weeks American officials accused the
1:54:01
company of providing the infrastructure that enabled Chinese
1:54:04
hackers to launch attacks against US targets The
1:54:08
announcement of the sanctions comes after the US
1:54:10
Treasury Department disclosed earlier this week that flax
1:54:13
typhoon had stolen Unclassified documents and what it
1:54:16
described as a major incident flax typhoon specifically
1:54:20
targeted a highly sensitive office at Treasury the
1:54:24
Office of Foreign Assets Control or OFAC which
1:54:28
administers economic sanctions It's a key tool in
1:54:31
America's national security arsenal the attack also targeted
1:54:34
the office of Treasury Secretary Janet Yellen OFAC's
1:54:38
targeting underscores Beijing's determination to acquire intelligence on
1:54:41
its biggest rival According to officials who spoke
1:54:44
to The Washington Post China's growing cyber espionage
1:54:47
operations which FBI director Christopher Wray called the
1:54:50
most significant cyber espionage campaign in history largely
1:54:54
flew under the radar in 2024 but experts
1:54:58
warn that such attacks are likely to increase
1:55:00
as Beijing seeks to gain a competitive advantage
1:55:02
in technology economics and security Okay What happened
1:55:07
to Seoul typhoon?
1:55:08
Well, this is the flax typhoon This is
1:55:10
the same typhoon group only it's a different
1:55:12
strain and then he brings on Brings on
1:55:18
a a Yale senior fellow from the Yale
1:55:21
Law University Something would be let Yale Law
1:55:27
School Yale Law School a cyber a cyber
1:55:30
crime expert I think we're entering a period
1:55:33
where cyber attacks are ramping up for sure
1:55:36
as the US and China Enter a period
1:55:38
of uncertainty in their relationship, but what's notable
1:55:41
here is the level of sophistication We're seeing
1:55:44
by Chinese hackers.
1:55:45
You mentioned the dizzying array of salt typhoon
1:55:48
flax typhoon We also have volt typhoon which
1:55:50
the Chinese malicious actors were Pre-positioning critical
1:55:54
infrastructure saying in the event of a conflict
1:55:57
we can shut down power and water systems
1:56:00
Right now I think we're in a period
1:56:03
of potentially Significant Uncertainty in the relationship and
1:56:08
China's capabilities have certainly improved in ways that
1:56:11
are very concerning to u.s. Officials Yeah,
1:56:13
bolt typhoon you just talked about this is
1:56:15
interesting when we talk about a major conflict
1:56:16
at the moment We've got a potential trade
1:56:18
war with China What does major conflict mean
1:56:21
does that mean if China goes into Taiwan
1:56:23
and the u.s. Decides?
1:56:24
It's gonna stand up for typhoon for Taiwan
1:56:26
that China has potential ability to disrupt Infrastructure
1:56:32
in America We have to look at cyber
1:56:34
attacks as an extension of military power and
1:56:37
in the event of an armed Confrontation between
1:56:40
the US and Chinese militaries.
1:56:41
I think that cyber tools would certainly be
1:56:43
on the table and by By showing up
1:56:47
in utilities companies that are in places like
1:56:50
Guam the West Coast What this signals is
1:56:53
that in the event of a conflict those
1:56:55
West Coast assets would very much be in
1:56:58
play And cyber is going to work in
1:57:00
conjunction with sort of traditional military Powers and
1:57:04
so this is something that we have to
1:57:05
be very cognizant of There you go.
1:57:10
So we have salt fault vault and flax
1:57:13
typhoon and I don't know what to make
1:57:19
of any of that.
1:57:20
Okay have an update on my pig butchering.
1:57:23
Oh Good.
1:57:24
Okay.
1:57:24
Okay, so I sent you got a note.
1:57:27
Yeah, I said I Said odd, I don't
1:57:29
have you my address book.
1:57:31
I was baiting a little bit.
1:57:32
Oh, I'm sorry I may have sent you
1:57:34
a message to the wrong number.
1:57:35
Oh clearly.
1:57:36
There we go.
1:57:37
That's the wrong number I hope you don't
1:57:39
mind my mistake.
1:57:40
So I said not at all.
1:57:41
No prob and The pig butcher says thank
1:57:44
you for your understanding.
1:57:45
I think you are a friendly person.
1:57:47
I'm glad to meet you So, of course,
1:57:49
I say nice to meet you too.
1:57:50
LOL and Then the pig butcher comes back
1:57:54
nice to meet you here.
1:57:55
My name is Lena if you don't mind
1:57:57
May I know your name?
1:57:59
My name is John Dvorak.
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Nice to meet you.
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Yeah And we'll have an update on that
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right after I say in the morning to
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you the man who put the C in
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the China Cybercrime say hello to my friend
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on the other end the one the only
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mr.
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John C Kramer ship seabass and graph in
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the air subs of the one of the
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dames and knights out there in the morning
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We have 2498 trolls that is not bad.
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Oh, by the way.
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No, that's exactly what we know.
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It's a hundred more It's a hundred more.
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No, no 2400 is Thursday, but it's About
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this every show because it's 2498 that's almost
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2,500 I said within range, by the
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way, the pig butcher says you have a
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good name John Dvorak What do I answer
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to that Why thank you Why thank you
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Do you have a pick?
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move it along I Don't want to do
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I want to see if if Lina does
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that if she'll say it'll get the pick
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ball rolling Send them to my PO box,
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I again I was very proud of most
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1:59:43
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It was really too corny and then they
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people did die.
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No, thanks to the botched job that was
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but of course our government doesn't care you
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weird fog She's already over it is but
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she said people have lost all trust in
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She looks just like sideshow Bob Who is
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sideshow Bob?
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It's a Simpsons character.
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Oh, I don't even know sideshow Well, look
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Okay.
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It's created this situation So nobody trusts the
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They never tell us anything about anything.
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Do I wonder if women plenty of women
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I mean the pig better show up pretty
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I was impressed to hear an old classmate
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Yes No, I was gonna say you want
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I would like to go through the US
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steel buyout.
2:26:12
Yeah, so we can get People a prize.
2:26:15
This is a big deal, huh?
2:26:17
Well, I think it's a big deal because
2:26:19
they should let him buy him out because
2:26:21
the Nippon Steel is not a bad company
2:26:23
They're Japanese They're fighting with the Chinese the
2:26:26
way we are and the Chinese are gonna
2:26:28
be the crap out of us with steel
2:26:29
if we don't do Something now, is this
2:26:31
something that Trump would seeing as Joe Biden?
2:26:34
No, Trump said, well, you know, it's not
2:26:37
American battery We made some fuss about it
2:26:39
So Biden made a fuss about it and
2:26:41
it was all because it's Pennsylvania's the headquarter
2:26:43
where the big steel mills are They didn't
2:26:45
want to annoy any of the workers, but
2:26:47
the workers are all for it.
2:26:49
Really?
2:26:50
Well, why wouldn't they be it's just a
2:26:52
better company than the operation being run?
2:26:55
It currently is basically going out of business
2:26:57
Let's play u.s. Steel buyout one u
2:26:59
.s Steel is an iconic American brand founded
2:27:02
by legendary business leaders Andrew Carnegie and JP
2:27:05
Morgan in 1901 It still holds up the
2:27:07
Empire State Building and San Francisco Bay Bridge
2:27:10
And it helped build the American ships tanks
2:27:12
and aircraft that won World War two in
2:27:15
December 2023 Nippon Steel announced it would buy
2:27:18
u.s Steel for more than 14 billion
2:27:20
dollars and has recently promised to invest a
2:27:23
billion dollars into u.s Steel mills, but
2:27:25
during the presidential campaign both candidates opposed the
2:27:28
deal a senior administration Official told me today
2:27:31
that the committee that reviews foreign investments in
2:27:33
the u.s Split with the Treasury Defense
2:27:36
and State Departments in favor of the deal
2:27:38
But the u.s. Trade Representative opposed sending
2:27:41
the decision to the White House leading to
2:27:44
today's decision for perspective on that decision We
2:27:46
turned to David Wessel senior fellow in economic
2:27:49
studies at the Brookings Institution and Sheila Smith
2:27:51
Fellow for Asia-Pacific Studies at the Council
2:27:54
on Foreign Relations Thanks very much to both
2:27:58
of you.
2:27:58
Welcome back to the news hour David Wessel
2:28:00
Let me start with you as I just
2:28:01
said the committee that reviews Investments in the
2:28:04
United States don't Assyrius split between the national
2:28:07
security agencies saying that they approve the deal
2:28:10
and the u.s Trade representative saying that
2:28:13
it opposed this deal.
2:28:15
What does that say about today's decision?
2:28:17
Well, it's pretty striking because the only power
2:28:19
the president had to block this deal was
2:28:22
to say it was a threat to national
2:28:23
security But because the committee split he essentially
2:28:27
overrode the national security Apparatus and the Treasury
2:28:32
but says to me is this is a
2:28:33
largely political decision both President Trump and President
2:28:37
Biden have stressed the importance of making it
2:28:40
in America Both of them were courting the
2:28:42
Steelworkers Union in Pennsylvania And so this seems
2:28:46
to me largely a decision made on political
2:28:48
grounds not economic grounds.
2:28:51
Hmm Well, there's no there's no election who
2:28:54
cares Well at this point, well Biden's he
2:28:58
doesn't know what he's doing.
2:28:59
He's not doing any of this No, somebody
2:29:02
else's.
2:29:02
Yeah someone who I'm not sure who the
2:29:04
US trade was the one person is trade
2:29:07
representative What is it?
2:29:08
Why they have more power than the than
2:29:10
all the intel agencies?
2:29:12
It doesn't make a lot of sense I
2:29:13
don't know.
2:29:14
I think this is gonna end up going
2:29:15
through but we'll see Part two after all
2:29:20
the president said that a domestically owned and
2:29:23
operated steel industry is Important to national security,
2:29:27
but what Nippon Steel was saying is we're
2:29:30
still gonna make it in the United States
2:29:32
The owners will just be Japanese which last
2:29:34
time I checked was an ally of the
2:29:36
United States not an adversary So Sheila Smith
2:29:39
there has been no official Japanese response to
2:29:43
this announcement, but what were the Japanese Expecting
2:29:46
leading up to this response.
2:29:48
Well, Nick I think this is a drama
2:29:49
that has been unfolding as you said for
2:29:50
over a year and Initially, I think the
2:29:53
Japanese government in particular was quite quiet They
2:29:56
didn't want to get into the fray and
2:29:57
they understand that it was a presidential election
2:30:00
year But I think as we're getting as
2:30:02
we got closer to the end of last
2:30:04
year in the last couple of weeks I
2:30:06
think there was an effort to really speak
2:30:08
out Prime Minister Ishiba said that he hoped
2:30:11
that this would go through this is in
2:30:12
the interest of both countries the vice minister
2:30:15
of the Ministry of External Trade and in
2:30:17
industry was a little bit more pointed and
2:30:20
said this will affect future Japanese companies who
2:30:24
are thinking about investing in the United States,
2:30:27
so I think the politics Clearly was on
2:30:30
the minds of most Japanese observers I think
2:30:33
it's also important to recognize that many Americans
2:30:36
don't recognize Just how vital foreign direct investment
2:30:39
is to the United States not just from
2:30:41
Japan, but from our European friends as well
2:30:43
Japan is one of the top countries from
2:30:47
for inbound foreign direct investment In fact, it
2:30:50
was I think in 2023 about seven hundred
2:30:52
and eighty three billion dollars And so this
2:30:55
inward foreign direct investment is largely in the
2:30:58
manufacturing sector And so is very helpful to
2:31:00
the through the American economy I you know,
2:31:03
I think we should we should sell it
2:31:04
to the Japanese, but only if they pay
2:31:06
for it in Bitcoin Yeah, so we can
2:31:09
put that in the Bitcoin reserve.
2:31:13
I don't think they're gonna want to pay
2:31:15
for it It's bleep that they got some
2:31:16
and the thing is, you know, they're yen
2:31:19
is so under Just like in the tank.
2:31:23
Yeah that They're really that would they whatever
2:31:28
they pay for it is good is from
2:31:29
their perspective.
2:31:30
It's got to be a lot more It's
2:31:32
like 50% more than they would have
2:31:33
normally paid for if the yen was strong.
2:31:35
It's not I Don't see why we just
2:31:38
don't say yeah We know we have had
2:31:40
nothing but the United States has had nothing
2:31:42
but good luck with Japanese investments What name
2:31:45
some other ones?
2:31:46
well when they bought Rockefeller Center spent all
2:31:48
that money on rock run on Rockefeller Center
2:31:51
and then Because of the downturn in the
2:31:53
climate they just basically walked away from the
2:31:56
deal and left them to hold that left
2:31:58
all that money on the table and we
2:32:00
ended up Scarfing it up all the investments
2:32:03
they made in Hawaii that they lost their
2:32:05
asses on they lose their asses To benefit
2:32:10
us I don't see what the problem is
2:32:14
I'm not making a problem Well, they've the
2:32:17
Biden administration is I think Trump will You
2:32:20
think he'll he'll next he'll Keep the deal
2:32:23
going.
2:32:24
Well, I Think it's gonna be based on
2:32:27
whether the workers want it or not And
2:32:29
I think they do those I think that
2:32:32
three indicates that and what's ironic about this
2:32:35
Is that a combined Nippon u.s. Steel
2:32:37
would have been a formidable competitor to the
2:32:40
big Chinese steel Makers and those are the
2:32:43
ones that have been the target of so
2:32:44
much animosity both from u.s Steelmakers and
2:32:47
u.s. Policymakers Sheila Smith, of course that
2:32:49
leads us to the u.s. Strategy on
2:32:51
China, which has been based largely on creating
2:32:54
alliances enhancing alliances not only between Washington and
2:32:59
East Asian countries including Japan but between East
2:33:02
Asian countries from Japan and South Korea all
2:33:05
the way down to Australia and the Philippines
2:33:07
and a senior administration official who works on
2:33:10
that strategy told me today quote I am
2:33:12
quite troubled by this decision Do you believe
2:33:15
this decision challenges the u.s. Strategy in
2:33:18
Asia?
2:33:18
I think it challenges u.s. Strategy writ
2:33:21
large But particularly in the Indo-pacific where
2:33:23
we're watching China really exerted influence across maritime
2:33:27
Asia But also really sort of engage in
2:33:30
far more Extensive economic coercion against our friends
2:33:35
and allies in the region as well.
2:33:36
So I think you know, there's a tension
2:33:38
here Nick I think it's important to To
2:33:40
see in this deal the specifics of the
2:33:43
deal aside this is a time when United
2:33:46
States is asking its allies partners and friends
2:33:48
to do more to enhance the competitiveness of
2:33:52
those of Countries that are competing with China
2:33:54
this larger strategic competition will define the coming
2:33:59
the last part of our century hmm Okay
2:34:05
Oh People up so it's a news item.
2:34:08
Yes.
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to hear about my divorce I'm 47 and
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divorced in this game So Jason Chavis was
2:35:04
sitting in for Maria on the Fox Business
2:35:06
News Yes, this is the C team guy.
2:35:10
He's Christmas vacation week and By the way,
2:35:14
and everybody's not working.
2:35:16
No, everybody's not working.
2:35:18
That's correct.
2:35:19
That's there's your English and he interviewed a
2:35:23
former ambassador, uh What's his name Robert O
2:35:27
'Brien who was a Trump national security advisor
2:35:30
about Greenland The president Trump's also talking actively
2:35:33
about Greenland.
2:35:34
What's the latest there?
2:35:36
Well, the latest is Greenland is a highway
2:35:38
from the Arctic all the way to North
2:35:39
America to the United States it's strategically very
2:35:42
important to the Arctic which is going to
2:35:44
be a critical battleground of the future because
2:35:47
as the climate gets warmer the the Arctic
2:35:50
is gonna be a Pathway that maybe maybe
2:35:52
even cuts down the on the usage of
2:35:54
the Panama Canal And the Russians and Chinese
2:35:57
are all over the Arctic now the day
2:35:59
the government the kingdom of Denmark owns Greenland
2:36:02
and they've got an obligation to defend Greenland
2:36:04
And so president Trump said if you don't
2:36:06
defend Greenland, we'll buy it and we'll defend
2:36:08
it but we're not going to defend it
2:36:10
for free and let you you know and
2:36:12
not develop Greenland and not not extract the
2:36:14
minerals and oil and and resources of Greenland
2:36:16
and While we defend it Denmark gets rich
2:36:19
and the king of Denmark, you know becomes
2:36:21
even wealthier Okay, so that was the most
2:36:26
lame analysis I've heard That's the pitch.
2:36:29
There's a little more here.
2:36:30
Denmark is now on the front lines of
2:36:32
the war against Russia and China They're like
2:36:35
the Baltic States So I pull it because
2:36:37
of their their vast territory in Greenland And
2:36:39
so they've got to defend Greenland And if
2:36:41
they can't defend it, we're gonna have to
2:36:42
and we're not gonna do it for free
2:36:44
So the Danes can either put the frigate
2:36:46
that's necessary there they can put the air
2:36:48
wings and put the missiles in Greenland and
2:36:50
they can put the infantry there that they
2:36:51
need to defend the country or Sell out
2:36:54
to us and I believe in this so
2:36:56
they're creating a false scenario Yes, as if
2:37:00
China and Russia want to get get Greenland
2:37:03
So they'll take it over if they have
2:37:05
to but when did this idea come into
2:37:09
play never?
2:37:10
well The Prime Minister of Greenland mood to
2:37:14
egg No, yeah, he's just a dick that
2:37:16
guy.
2:37:17
Well, he says he's now calling for independence
2:37:21
From Denmark.
2:37:22
Oh, that's a winner And he's and he's
2:37:26
and he's looking for investments and he's he's
2:37:28
this is a very short clip he was
2:37:30
literally standing next to Ursula and I'm sure
2:37:33
Ursula picked up the pneumonia from him and
2:37:36
And she's standing next to him Probably because
2:37:39
she doesn't you know, I'm gonna let Trump
2:37:41
by you come talk to us, you know
2:37:43
You should be one of our guys here
2:37:45
in Greenland.
2:37:45
We need to have some growth.
2:37:47
We need to have some economic growth and
2:37:50
diversify our economy and Of course, we welcome
2:37:54
our strong partners and like-minded nations as
2:37:57
first But if they don't invest there's a
2:38:00
lot of companies who also want to to
2:38:02
invest in this country Sounds to me like
2:38:04
he's saying well, you know the Russians want
2:38:06
to invest the Chinese want to invest So,
2:38:09
you know like I think he's playing the
2:38:10
game he's he's he's That to me spelled
2:38:15
out.
2:38:16
Okay, we're open for conversation here It's not
2:38:19
his business is Denmark's business.
2:38:22
Who's this guy kidding?
2:38:23
He says he would they he wants Gavin
2:38:26
Newsom all of a sudden starting to push
2:38:28
back.
2:38:29
You know, we we can do what we
2:38:30
want We can maybe let the Russians run,
2:38:32
California.
2:38:33
Oh, please kidding.
2:38:34
Oh, please could Russia buy, California.
2:38:36
That would be great, California Put up a
2:38:40
wall Block everything off.
2:38:43
That would be great.
2:38:44
I do have that same That same ambassador
2:38:48
about Panama if you want to hear the
2:38:50
same guy same guy the guy from Greenland
2:38:53
No, no, the the ambassador the Ambassador dipshit
2:38:58
that was that guy So he he explains
2:39:02
what the real problem is that Trump has
2:39:04
with the Panama Canal.
2:39:05
I also want to ask you about China's
2:39:07
role in the Panama Canal because almost seemingly
2:39:10
out of nowhere You've got Donald Trump talking
2:39:13
about the Panama Canal.
2:39:15
I didn't see many stories written about that
2:39:17
last year.
2:39:18
What?
2:39:19
Why why the sudden urgency in taking on
2:39:22
the Panama Canal?
2:39:23
Well, Jason as you know, the Panama Canal
2:39:25
is one of the you know, engineering achievements
2:39:28
of the Stop I did see this guy
2:39:33
now.
2:39:33
I don't know if I saw this particularly
2:39:34
but he's been floating around the guy sounds
2:39:36
plastered Well, Jason
2:39:49
as you know, the Panama Canal is one
2:39:51
of the you know engineering achievements of Yeah,
2:39:53
right there the last Millennia and by the
2:39:58
way, that's what you do as ambassador.
2:40:01
You don't actually do any work as ambassador.
2:40:03
Do you?
2:40:05
You drink a lot.
2:40:06
You have a lot of parties by the
2:40:07
way television tip the diplomat Have you seen
2:40:12
this series the diplomat?
2:40:13
No, it's with Carrie What's her name?
2:40:17
She was in the Americans Give us a
2:40:23
background.
2:40:23
What's the story about?
2:40:27
Carrie Russell She's a diplomat US diplomat and
2:40:33
they're courting her to be the vice president
2:40:34
because it's very much it's very modern So,
2:40:37
you know, it's right after the Afghanistan pullout
2:40:39
and they've got an old coot for president
2:40:42
who's supposed to be Biden, I guess and
2:40:45
but he has a vice president who's female
2:40:47
and She's about to be kicked off out
2:40:51
of the White House because her husband has
2:40:52
some financial scandal They're looking for someone that
2:40:55
she's on the shortlist, but they it's a
2:40:57
try her out.
2:40:58
They make her ambassador to London and And
2:41:01
the story unfolds from there and there's it's
2:41:04
not on not just drinking that she does
2:41:06
She's involved in very heavy diplomacy, but it's
2:41:09
a very good series Well, I've been watching
2:41:12
the agency.
2:41:13
Yes, that's Clooney's a spy show, right?
2:41:16
Yeah It's you know, I couldn't get Mimi
2:41:20
to watch it cuz she watched one episode
2:41:21
said it was any slow this is This
2:41:25
I have to agree.
2:41:27
I mean I still watch it, but it's
2:41:29
too slow slow Film guys film guys film
2:41:35
guys doing television.
2:41:36
It's never a good idea Yeah, you might
2:41:41
be right.
2:41:41
Yeah.
2:41:42
All right back work back to the the
2:41:45
Panama Canal bit.
2:41:46
Well, Jason as you know, the Panama Canal
2:41:47
is one of the you know engineering achievements
2:41:50
of the the last millennia and we built
2:41:54
it we paid for it and we operated
2:41:56
it for many years and then in a
2:41:58
Tremendous act of generosity.
2:42:00
It was it was probably foolish.
2:42:01
Jimmy Carter gave the cow back to the
2:42:04
Panamanians, but it wasn't a just a free
2:42:07
gift their conditions that the canal remained neutral
2:42:09
And so what the the Panamanians have done
2:42:12
and generally we love the Panamanians or they're
2:42:14
good people.
2:42:15
They're friends of America but they gave the
2:42:18
the ports on both ends of the canal
2:42:20
to the Chinese and Even the New York
2:42:23
Times is saying, you know Which has been
2:42:24
an apologist for China for years is saying
2:42:27
that the Chinese are committed espionage or they
2:42:29
could shut down the canal without military efforts
2:42:32
Just using these Hong Kong companies that control
2:42:34
the canal and then on top of that
2:42:36
they're raising the prices on American shipping so
2:42:38
75% of our The commerce that goes
2:42:41
to the cow ends up at American ports
2:42:43
or departs from American ports and they're ripping
2:42:45
us off and so the idea that they've
2:42:47
given the canal to China basically and in
2:42:50
essence and Our charges high prices and the
2:42:54
Chinese are taking that news and that money
2:42:55
to build their own military up That doesn't
2:42:57
work for America anymore Hmm.
2:43:00
Yeah What it is That's the argument.
2:43:05
Yeah, there was a big stink when that
2:43:07
happened if it was years ago in the
2:43:08
Chinese Panamanians are mad.
2:43:12
They are really mad at Trump there.
2:43:15
Well, that's what we're told happened Yeah, well,
2:43:17
sir, Marcus, let's find out do we have
2:43:20
do we have anybody?
2:43:21
Yes.
2:43:22
Yes.
2:43:22
We have sir marks or Mark Hall He's
2:43:24
Mark Hall doesn't live in Panama He go
2:43:27
he was born in Panama has has an
2:43:29
apartment in Panama has business in Panama travels
2:43:32
to Panama He has boots.
2:43:34
He gets me.
2:43:34
I've remitted from pain from Panama.
2:43:36
He has boots on the ground in Panama
2:43:38
He says and he's actually kind of mad
2:43:40
It's like why is Trump doing this?
2:43:42
This will drive us right into the arms
2:43:44
of China the CCP like Peru, whatever he
2:43:47
said Yeah, they're mad boots on the ground.
2:43:52
The Panamanians are mad that Trump said this
2:43:54
they don't like it Well, I think this
2:44:00
needs more Exploration on our part.
2:44:02
Well, does he?
2:44:04
Okay, I will forward you the emails.
2:44:06
He has a lot of emails and he's
2:44:08
mad too He doesn't like it because this
2:44:10
is what got us in the trouble the
2:44:11
first time there What was the first time
2:44:15
I don't know I was Nicaragua Iran Contra.
2:44:20
Yeah stuff like that.
2:44:22
There's still some bad blood They didn't like
2:44:25
then like how we did all that.
2:44:27
Well as we do what we do Yes,
2:44:29
this is the problem people have realized we
2:44:31
do what we do exactly That to wind
2:44:35
this up.
2:44:36
I have two clips from the BBC By
2:44:39
the way, this may just be Trump negotiating
2:44:41
price.
2:44:41
No, I think so.
2:44:42
I think it's all negotiating price all of
2:44:44
it All that's what he does.
2:44:47
He's very quiet these days.
2:44:48
Don't you think he's kind of quiet?
2:44:51
No, he hasn't let's take the heat right
2:44:55
We 2025 ushers in a new era a
2:44:59
new generation Are you familiar with the new
2:45:02
generation?
2:45:04
No generation beta Anyone born in the year
2:45:09
2025 will become generation gonna be the mark
2:45:12
marker for the new after alpha Yes after
2:45:15
alpha is a beta or beta cuck.
2:45:18
It's beta generation beta are people born between
2:45:21
2025 and 2039 so babies born from the
2:45:25
1st of January this year are the first
2:45:27
the Gen B's by 2035 they will make
2:45:30
up 16% of the global population and
2:45:33
most of the members of this generation are
2:45:35
Actually expected to live well into the 22nd
2:45:38
century as well.
2:45:38
I was gonna say that the first generation
2:45:40
that will belong to the next Century, I
2:45:44
guess they're gonna have a life pretty much
2:45:46
dominated by AI we would have from our
2:45:48
vantage point now You would think anyway, especially
2:45:51
now.
2:45:52
Yeah with like kind of technology such as
2:45:54
artificial intelligence is quickly developing right now So
2:45:57
in the next few decades, it's only going
2:45:59
to further advance and they'll be growing up
2:46:01
with that technology as well It'll be similar
2:46:04
to kind of how gen alpha would dub
2:46:06
the iPad kids due to how that technology
2:46:08
had an impact on their childhoods And it'll
2:46:11
be interesting to see that relationship develop in
2:46:13
the decades to come So we've got Gen
2:46:15
B to now taking over from Gen Alpha,
2:46:18
I'm Gen X 1973 I suspect you're millennial
2:46:23
you sound I'm guessing I'm gonna put money
2:46:25
on you being a millennial I'm Gen Z,
2:46:27
but I'll take millennial as a compliment Sounds
2:46:37
like the Gen Z years aren't that happy
2:46:39
about being Gen Z We have another clip
2:46:41
and what are the sort of you know,
2:46:43
does it mean anything?
2:46:44
I suppose is what I'm gonna say that
2:46:45
people are born, you know in similar periods
2:46:48
gonna have different experiences of life I suppose
2:46:50
what else do we take from these labels?
2:46:52
I guess with kind of like technology nowadays,
2:46:54
especially like Gen Z and Gen Alpha and
2:46:57
Obviously with Gen B to social media plays
2:46:59
such a huge aspect in connecting with people
2:47:01
So I think in terms of the generations
2:47:04
when you look at the differences in like
2:47:07
growing up that that's had a huge impact
2:47:09
on how we communicate with people and Their
2:47:12
kind of experiences in society.
2:47:15
Yeah, and I guess in the end, it's
2:47:17
a useful label, isn't it?
2:47:19
And the the cutoff date is a bit
2:47:20
arbitrary But it's a useful label to describe
2:47:23
who we're talking about without needing to give
2:47:25
the date of birth out Yeah, exactly.
2:47:27
So if you want to give your age
2:47:28
away, it's always a good indicator What's been
2:47:33
the reaction online to the name Gen B
2:47:36
to the people like that So overall there's
2:47:38
been a lot of reaction on social media
2:47:39
I think with this new generation It makes
2:47:42
us all reflect on where we are in
2:47:43
life Like coming to terms with the fact
2:47:45
that we're all getting old and there's like
2:47:47
a new generation of youngsters And I think
2:47:49
Gen Z have taken it particularly hard with
2:47:51
some of them saying they're officially like the
2:47:53
new Millennials and then there's kind of like
2:47:55
references to like the 2024 horror film The
2:47:58
Substance which kind of tackles the topic of
2:48:00
aging and then you have like people making
2:48:02
fun of the name kind of Gen Beta
2:48:05
due to like the negative connotations of the
2:48:07
word beta Which is a slang term for
2:48:09
someone who's kind of perceived to be weak
2:48:12
It's kind of the opposite about So people
2:48:16
have been joking that like Gen Beta are
2:48:18
gonna have these characteristics Some people that were
2:48:20
joking about how people rushing to have babies
2:48:22
before 2025.
2:48:24
So the children were Gen Alpha and not
2:48:26
Gen Beta You know what I find kind
2:48:30
of semi just you know, I used to
2:48:32
write for PC magazine UK And so I
2:48:34
spent like a decade.
2:48:36
I was there a couple times a year
2:48:37
And it would concerns me about this particular
2:48:40
report is they always use you know, said
2:48:42
it we say beta So they're a beta
2:48:44
tester and they'd always say beta.
2:48:46
Yes, but then they'd also say Zed They
2:48:49
never said Z.
2:48:51
No.
2:48:51
Oh, why are they saying Z in that
2:48:53
report?
2:48:54
Why is that generation said that's a very
2:48:56
good point.
2:48:58
I Think we should take this up with
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I sent me to your house This is
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I there you go.
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That's my ISO That was bad, yeah good,
3:00:07
I'm glad to good well that one of
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them is gonna win One the first one
3:00:12
is like the show.
3:00:13
Well, I like the show.
3:00:15
That's good I'm not gonna complain about that
3:00:18
one and then pretty darn good party darn
3:00:22
good Hmm party darn good.
3:00:25
Well, I like the show.
3:00:27
I think what I like the show is
3:00:28
that is obviously the winner Okay, now you
3:00:31
agree.
3:00:32
Let me ask.
3:00:32
I like them both.
3:00:34
Let me ask.
3:00:34
It was a little muddy Let me see
3:00:35
if Oh Lena says you seem very busy
3:00:38
John Dvorak.
3:00:39
Yeah, I'm doing a show.
3:00:40
Come on, Lena.
3:00:41
Give me a break Sometimes
3:00:54
Created by this is a screwy one.
3:00:56
I got this as a gift.
3:00:58
You stepped on the creator by Dana Brunetti
3:01:00
You stepped on his credit You know, I
3:01:04
said it's a runover He can ask for
3:01:07
a make good by Dana Brunetti So I
3:01:14
have the I got this for Christmas Yeah,
3:01:17
and it's a product called the universal dust
3:01:19
cleaning gel and is spelled pool lead Dickey
3:01:23
pull a Dickey Oh, I have this product
3:01:27
Pull a Dickey pull a Dickey.
3:01:28
Yes.
3:01:28
I have this product.
3:01:29
This is an outstanding product made in China
3:01:33
of all places There's some sort of weird
3:01:35
goo and what I would recommend people.
3:01:37
Let me spell it for you.
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P U L.
3:01:39
I D IKI And which is kind of
3:01:45
a joke name and it's there's a lot
3:01:47
of there's videos on the on the YouTube
3:01:49
about it and showing you To use it
3:01:51
because you have to know how to use
3:01:52
it.
3:01:52
It's a guy.
3:01:53
It's a jar of goo mine is called
3:01:56
Tick carve T.
3:01:57
I see a RV.
3:01:59
I happen to have it here Is it
3:02:01
a judge jar of goo?
3:02:03
Yeah dust cleaning gel.
3:02:04
It's a jar of goo.
3:02:05
I this is a it's a very cool
3:02:07
product Well, it's the same probably exactly the
3:02:10
same manufacturer.
3:02:12
It is.
3:02:12
Yes pull a Dickey Is your pull a
3:02:15
Dickey it my politic is blue mine is
3:02:18
blue as well.
3:02:19
He has the same stuff same stuff Yep,
3:02:21
you can get it Amazon But you go
3:02:23
look it up and see how it's used
3:02:25
to use it and you could you'd push
3:02:27
this boo on to your keyboard And it
3:02:31
cleans all the gunk out of your keyboard.
3:02:33
It does a pretty good job.
3:02:34
Not just your keyboard It's fantastic on your
3:02:37
car dashboard Yeah, I guess so it's what
3:02:41
it says, you know, how yeah So you
3:02:42
have all that dust that's in in the
3:02:44
little crevices of your dashboard and and I
3:02:47
like my car clean Yeah, you would hear
3:02:50
you being at your OCD.
3:02:51
I would have mostly it this is what
3:02:53
did it?
3:02:54
What did you pay for this for this?
3:02:55
I got as a gift for Christmas.
3:02:57
I don't know what it costs Wow, those
3:02:59
Dvorak's are cheap.
3:03:00
Happy happy.
3:03:00
Happy Christmas Do the main gift that the
3:03:04
whole family did they put it together?
3:03:09
They all chipped in Sometimes
3:03:24
I got Created by Dana Brunette.
3:03:26
I got to talk to Mimi man.
3:03:28
You gotta give you better gifts.
3:03:30
That's bogus.
3:03:31
That's just bogus Boy Hey, we got some
3:03:37
fun end of show meetups, I had nothing
3:03:39
new So these are all redos, but I
3:03:41
have done a little bit of extra sweetening
3:03:43
here and there Particularly the one by sir,
3:03:47
Chris Wilson.
3:03:47
We have Eric Colburn and sir, Bill who
3:03:51
deck Who have not heard from in a
3:03:53
long time.
3:03:54
I wonder if he's overboard or still producing
3:03:57
We'd love those end of show mixes.
3:03:58
So send them to me out of McCurry
3:04:01
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then Adios mofos or who we who we
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and such I
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Don't know They're
3:05:44
eating the dogs To make a snack
3:05:53
You cooking the dog If
3:06:08
you don't know how to do it, I'll
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show you how to cook the dog Grabbed
3:06:17
all of my neighbors Gotta be the best
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recipe Finley sliced flesh just fit just like
3:06:29
they do in the north of Korea I'm
3:06:34
just cooking the dog I'll show you how
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to cook You may think that this is
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strange Eat our pets for climate change Save
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the planet feed the poor Sweet potato fries
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with a slice of alcohol cooking the dog
3:07:05
Yes, I'm cooking the dog If you don't
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know how to do it, I'll show you
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how to cook the dog Dinner
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at my place Slash
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and a party darn good You
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