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January 26th • 3h 23m

1733: Rat Note

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It would be outrageous.
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Adam Curry, John C.
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Devorah.
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It's Tuesday, January 26, 2025.
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This is your award-winning Kip on Asian
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Media assassination episode 1733.
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This is no agenda.
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Busting up churches and schools and broadcasting live
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from the heart of the Texas Hill Country
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here in FEMA region number 6.
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In the morning everybody, I'm Adam Curry.
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And for the Northern Silicon Valley where it's
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supposed to rain, it's not raining, I don't
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know, I got nothing else to say.
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I'm John C.
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Devorah.
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It's Crackpot and Buzzkill.
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In the morning.
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Ah, I caught you unawares and unprepared.
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Ooh, made another rhyme.
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Yeah.
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No, I knocked over a drink.
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Oh, no.
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Just before we started, so I'm in the
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process of cleaning up the mess.
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What was the drink?
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The concoction that I make.
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Oh, that thing.
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Oh, that was one's tip of the day.
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Yeah, that was one time tip of the
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day.
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Luckily the glass wasn't full of it because
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I had drunk most of it, but it's
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a gooey material that is not easy to
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get off.
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No, and is it in the gear?
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Is it in the gear?
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No, no, it fell over into the, it's
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a long story.
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It's not in the gear, no.
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It's the chia seeds, they're everywhere, people.
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It did fall over where this is.
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Oh, no.
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Hey, I want to congratulate Ashlyn Speed on
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her first Mazda race at Daytona.
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Did you see it?
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Yeah, she posted it.
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Yeah, she was cautious and did not get
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entwined in the massive wreck they had.
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That was pretty amazing.
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You saw that big crash?
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Yeah, yeah.
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So she came 16 out of 34.
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She was cautious.
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Her first race, though, first race on Daytona.
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I could not be more proud of her.
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It's a good start.
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You watch.
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That young lady has a future.
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And we...
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We have our autographed picture, so we're good
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to go.
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I did not see no agenda on the
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car anywhere.
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Yeah, you know what?
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Those days are over.
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It's over.
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We'll be happy we can get a PID
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pass.
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Yeah, you got that right.
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That's the way it is.
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So, man, I constantly have the White House
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news page up these days.
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You know, I just walk by the computer.
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Let me do a little refresh.
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Oh, wait, there's something new.
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It's amazing what has been happening in the
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past week.
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Well, give us an update.
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Have you seen this?
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As I continue to clean up this mess.
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Oh, okay.
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Well, while you continue to clean up the
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mess, I'm going to set you up for
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your 3x3.
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I believe we should definitely start with...
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We should start with replacement migration in the
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United States.
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Let's kick it off with this.
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Some 1,500 active Marine and Army personnel
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have begun a new mission to bolster security
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at the U.S.-Mexico...
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Hold on a second.
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Yes?
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That girl's voice sounds like the voice that
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we have on our clips that we're going
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to die.
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We're going to die, girl.
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Does she really?
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Hold on a second.
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Let me see if I can match her.
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Let's see.
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Here we go.
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Some 1,500 active Marine and Army personnel
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have begun a new mission to bolster security
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at the U.S.-Mexico border.
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Among those deployed near San Diego, Marines from
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Camp Pendleton.
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These service members will be providing ground and
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air support to assist troops already deployed.
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I should probably point out that the chopper
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sound you hear is the Osprey landing, which
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just gave it a perfect visual.
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Like, oh, there's that thing landing.
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It's all over now.
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As well as customs and border protection secure
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the border.
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What?
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By the way, I saw this clip and
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are you telling me they're hauling people out
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of the country in Ospreys?
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No, no.
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That's where they land the troops.
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They couldn't drive, you see.
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We had to make it look cool and
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spend a little extra.
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So instead of driving to the border, they
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flew them in the Ospreys.
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No, no.
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We're taking people out in C-130s.
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Yeah, I know.
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That's what I noticed.
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But they kept showing these Osprey pics.
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Those things are expensive to operate.
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Very, very expensive.
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And they're dangerous.
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I would say so.
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They'll also be assisting in the construction of
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physical barriers.
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This marks the first batch deployed by the
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Department of Defense.
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Following President Donald Trump's executive order to shut
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down all migrant entries at the southern border.
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Border security was one of Trump's campaign promises.
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The American people have been waiting for such
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a time as this for our department.
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That's the new girl?
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What's her name?
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The new press secretary girl?
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Yeah, I can't remember her name yet.
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Do you hear what she does there?
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Yeah, she sounds like another clip that we
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have.
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She throws out an Esther Mordecai for such
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a time as this.
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The American people have been waiting for such
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a time as this.
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For our Department of Defense to actually take
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homeland security seriously.
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This is the number one priority of the
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American people and the President is already delivering.
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Military airlifts deporting illegal immigrants have also begun.
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Several flights carrying hundreds of Guatemalan migrants arrived
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in Guatemala Friday from Arizona and Texas.
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However, not everyone is welcoming this news.
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I don't think we need troops in El
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Paso.
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I go back to saying we're a very
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safe community.
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ICE raids have been taking place in many
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cities across the country.
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ICE posted on social media there have been
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593 arrests and 449 detainers lodged.
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They also posted that targeted enforcement operations are
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planned arrests of known criminal aliens who threaten
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national security or public safety.
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But this will not stand, say the Democrats
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everywhere.
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Connecticut has never quit on people.
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We're never going to surrender and I am
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never going to back down.
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We are here to fight.
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You come through my people.
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You come through me.
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Our five member delegation is planning to push
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back, fight back.
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Presidents in this country have broad powers, but
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they are not kings.
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We will not do ICE's job for them
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on a whole number of fronts.
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We're not going to do federal immigration enforcement.
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If there is any attack on the Garden
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State or on any of its communities from
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Washington, I will fight back with every fiber
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of my being.
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I have one message for President Trump.
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I'll see you in court.
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Alright, alright, alright.
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Well, most of the country...
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These guys are big talkers.
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Oh, yeah.
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Most of the country seems pretty happy with
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the criminals.
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It's only removing criminals like, well, ICE can
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go into schools and churches.
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These are sanctuaries.
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There is no evidence of even the word
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school or church in any of these executive
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orders.
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I'm not quite sure where they get that
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from.
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And the numbers are not that massive.
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When you talk about mass immigrations, if you
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do the calculation, a Holman...
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It was on one of the shows.
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I like Holman because he's so funny.
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Yeah, we're going to arrest everybody.
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We're going to kill everybody.
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Tough guy.
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They're doing like 300 to 500, let's say,
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a day, and they're going to do it
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for every day.
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Of course, everyone's all upset.
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Oh, every day, every day.
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That's $15,000 a month max.
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Yeah.
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Which is what?
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A hundred is less than $200,000 a
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year.
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There's millions we're talking about here, and they're
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going to maybe get $200,000 out, maybe?
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But this is, as was campaigned on, these
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are the criminal elements.
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There's no evidence of them going after anyone
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else except for the criminals at the moment,
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which I think was always the intent.
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People run around, are they going to deport
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11 million?
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I don't think so.
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At the numbers they're going, it would take
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them, well, if it's, say, $200,000 a
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year to get to a million, it would
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take 10 years.
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Come on.
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But at least they got something to yammer
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about.
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Yammer.
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Yeah, yammer about.
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Well, there's a couple of things.
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This is screwing with some business models out
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there.
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So it's a real problem for some people
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that President Trump has stopped the amnesty, we
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got the troops at the border keeping everybody
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back, and here come the complainers, and your
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No Agenda show knows why.
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With the announcement that the Trump administration will
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allow ICE to arrest immigrants in places like
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schools and churches I don't think that's true
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yet.
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We reached out to the Colorado Catholic Conference.
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Where do you all stand on that issue?
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We have not seen the 2025 memo or
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what concerns will be around that.
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We know there might be First Amendment concerns
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with enforcement in religious institutions, but right now
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there's not a lot of clarity.
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So for the Catholic Church, our bishops continue
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to maintain that we welcome the stranger as
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a tenant of our faith.
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That was Brittany Vesely, the Executive Director of
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the Colorado Catholic Conference.
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Vesely went on to say that the bishops
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are concerned about community safety, including drugs coming
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across the US-Mexico border, and unaccompanied minors
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facing sexual abuse.
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Now earlier this week, I talked to Jeanette
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Vizguera, who crossed that same border and lived
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in a church for three years while seeking
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asylum.
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She said as churches and schools figure out
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what's next, as an advocate, she's creating a
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safe space plan of her own.
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I have options for continue have some people
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in security spaces.
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Vizguera says for safety reasons, she can't publicly
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say what those safe spaces are.
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So she kind of misnomered them.
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It is the Colorado Catholic Bishops Conference, part
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of the Catholic Charities.
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These guys do hundreds of millions of dollars
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a year in refugee resettlement programs.
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The huge moneymaker.
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Massive.
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Their entire business model is refugees and asylum
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seekers.
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Now they're going to come out and say,
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she lived in a church for three years.
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By the way, she's still here.
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She's not gone.
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She still lives in the church or somewhere
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else.
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This is what it's come down to.
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Now we're going to have to listen to
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all of this nonsense where it's just ruining
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your business model.
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There's that billion dollar company in Austin that
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President Obama himself sanctioned and opened.
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This is going to change something.
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By the way, that's our billion dollars.
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You know, taxpayer billion dollars.
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This is where you go.
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Scam.
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Rip off.
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Now have you heard about the cute winter
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boots yet?
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I've seen references to the cute winter boots.
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I have not gotten into any more details
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than that, so you're going to inform me
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about the cute winter boots.
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Yes, and I'm sorry that I'm encroaching on
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your territory of the TikToks because it is
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rampant on TikTok.
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Everyone out there that listens to this show
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knows that eventually you cave.
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You always cave.
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Well, I had to because I kept getting
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people sending me this, look at these crazies
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talking about cute winter boots.
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I'm like, I'm not interested in what they're
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doing on TikTok until I saw this guy.
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You know, I'm starting to see this cute
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winter boots thing going around and I started
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to pay attention to what this actually was.
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At first I was like, it has to
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do with the migrants.
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I can see that, but I really wasn't
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paying attention.
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By the way, the guy's in his car,
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of course.
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Everybody's in their car.
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It's your TikTok studio of choice.
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Just keep popping up and popping up.
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Then I started to realize that this is
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code being spoken by protesters.
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The anti-FA, yeah, anti-FA is planning
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something.
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They are speaking in codes through this cute
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winter boots thing, how nice the winter boots
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are to have.
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They're talking about groups and organizations and organizing.
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Yeah, something big is about to happen with
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this cute winter boots thing.
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Look it up, get on here, go in
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that search bar, and start paying attention to
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what these people are talking, what they're writing
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on the papers.
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Okay, so I did that.
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I went to the search bar, I checked
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it out, and then oh, I see.
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What do you wear cute winter boots for?
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You wear cute winter boots when there's ice
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outside.
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See, this is the...
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Oh, this is good.
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I'm glad you did this.
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Yes, ice, as in immigration enforcement.
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And cute winter boots is what you need
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to protect yourself against ice, which is code
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by these passive politic practicing nutjobs for guns.
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I'm seeing a lot of videos on cute
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winter boots, and there's sort of two streams
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of content on this.
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There are boots that you can use in
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the ice, and that's not something I know
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a ton about.
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The other stream of content in these videos
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is more about utilitarian boots, and boots that
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maybe you never thought that you would ever
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buy in your life, because that's just not
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your thing.
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And now you're seeing, given our environment, all
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the things, you're probably going to need to
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invest in just a good, solid pair of
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winter boots.
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And that I can help you with, because
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I came late to that sort of boot
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in my life.
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She's in her car as well, obviously.
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About ten years ago, a lot of you
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know that I used to be the head
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of marketing for The Outdoor Channel, which is
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a hunting and fishing television network.
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I grew up in a family that didn't
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do a lot of that outdoor stuff.
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When I say a lot, not at all,
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right?
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I go and work at The Outdoor Channel
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for eight years, and lo and behold, I
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get exposure to some of the biggest experts
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on cute winter boots in the country.
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And I open my ears, close my mouth,
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and listen to them.
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They taught me a lot, especially about what
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kind of a pair of cute winter boots
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would you buy if you were a newcomer
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to boots like that, right?
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You never thought you were going to buy
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boots like that.
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Got to learn a lot from them.
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So everyone's, oh yeah, I got my cute
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winter boots.
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It's like, okay, you're all arming yourselves to
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protect people from ISIS?
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I love this fact that the whole argument
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for arming for the Second Amendment is exactly
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what they're doing, but they've always been in
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denial.
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And of course, you know, those same people,
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if they ever shot a gun, they'd probably
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yell eek and drop it.
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Eek!
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And would fire again.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, exactly.
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So we do your 3x3?
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We might as well get into it.
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Yeah, let's get these out of the way.
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Hold on, we've got a jingle.
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Experiment by Jesse Dean Comparing stories from ABC
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CBS and NBC The never-ending 3x3.
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There we go, it's not a 3x3, it's
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a 4x4 with 3x3 in the title.
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Oh my goodness, what are we going to
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do?
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Yeah, we're going to start with the 4x4
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at the bonus clip, which is the CBC,
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Canadian Broadcasting Company, and these are all clips
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on the immigration crackdown.
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Security video shown to a U.S. news
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outlet shows what appears to be the tail
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end of the raid.
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U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement or ICE
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agents with a man apparently handcuffed after being
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apprehended at a seafood depot in Newark, New
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Jersey yesterday.
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The latest signal President Donald Trump's long-promised
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deportations of undocumented migrants in this country are
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underway.
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People were fingerprinted.
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Ras Baraka, the mayor of Newark, a city
16:14
that has pledged to protect migrants, says there
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was no warrant.
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None of these people were rapists or murderers
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or criminals.
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We believe that there were three people who
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they say were undocumented that they detained, but
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they also detained folks that were in fact
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citizens of this country.
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One person showed their military veteran identification and
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was still questioned anyway.
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People are scared.
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Amy Torres is executive director of the Alliance
16:43
for Immigrant Justice.
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And what we learned from folks that stayed
16:46
behind was that ICE walked in like it
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was their empire's own conquered land.
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They were heavily armed.
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There was no prior announcement.
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They were blocking off entrances and exits.
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They were scrambling up delivery ramps.
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They were banging down bathroom doors to make
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sure no one was hiding inside.
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Trump maintains the first raids will go after
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criminals, repeating that message today in North Carolina.
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They're murderers.
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These are people that have been as bad
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as you get, as bad as anybody you've
17:17
seen.
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Now, I have a question.
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This is interesting.
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As far back as I can recall as
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a young lad watching movies, even in my
17:27
teens watching Cheech and Chong, but it was
17:30
always kind of like INS.
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It was like, oh no, it's INS!
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And the whole kitchen would desert.
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You know, everyone would be running away.
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Hasn't this been a thing in America?
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Like immigration going after...
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It's been not only a thing, even though
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it's not...
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You're right.
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INS, Immigration and Naturalization Services.
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It was kind of a running gag.
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And I say way before even Cheech and
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Chong where they'd be...
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Somebody would say...
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I'm talking about in the 60s and 70s.
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Some immigration guys here and then the whole
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crew would scatter.
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It was always been a running gag and
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that gag disappeared from the...
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And I think everyone's shocked by it because
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that gag, which was always part of the
18:21
public domain, disappeared, I think, I guess during
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the Obama administration.
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And all these young'uns have been brought
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up never knowing this joke.
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The young'uns.
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The young'uns don't know their comedic history.
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We're full of it.
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We're full of comedic history about rounding people
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up.
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Yeah.
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But I'm not so sure about the validity
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of that report because it's criminals.
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I've only seen criminals being taken in.
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These local yokels think that they're still on
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the right side of history and they're showboating
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and they're making a big fuss and they're
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going to get themselves their tit in the
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ring after this is over with.
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Onward with the 3x3.
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Well, let's see.
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We should probably go to CBS next.
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At a U.S. Army airfield in El
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Paso, exclusive video obtained by CBS News shows
19:15
shackled detainees boarding a military cargo plane.
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One of two C-17s to depart the
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southern border carrying migrants and landing in Guatemala
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Friday morning.
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The deportation's going very well.
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We're getting the bad, hard criminals out.
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The White House calls it the official start
19:33
of their long-promised mass deportation campaign.
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Posting video of Marines operating at the southern
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border.
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This week, the Pentagon announced the deployment of
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1,500 service members to assist U.S.
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Border Patrol.
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Across the country, immigration agents arrested 538 undocumented
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migrants yesterday.
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They always leave out the criminal part, John.
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Have you noticed that?
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They don't say criminal undocumented illegal alien immigrants.
20:03
It's always just undocumented.
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No, of course not.
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That tops the average of 312 arrests per
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day during the Biden administration.
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What?
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We're only doing 200 plus?
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That makes it even worse.
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Wow!
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And it includes 373 alleged criminal detainees.
20:22
In Newark, ICE agents raided a business without
20:24
a warrant.
20:25
We can't just let this happen and not
20:28
say anything.
20:29
Newark's mayor slammed the operation.
20:31
We believe that there were three people who
20:34
they say were undocumented that they detained, but
20:36
they also detained folks that were in fact
20:39
citizens of this country.
20:42
And we've just learned there was another deportation
20:45
flight, a military aircraft bound to Mexico planned
20:49
this week, but it was denied access to
20:51
land.
20:52
A U.S. official tells CBS News that
20:54
flight never took off.
20:57
I don't know about that.
20:59
I like the way they say they were
21:00
detained.
21:01
There were some guys, they weren't shipped out,
21:04
but they were you know, but they make
21:05
it sound like these guys the American citizens
21:07
were shipped out when they were just detained.
21:10
By detained it means you raided the whole
21:12
place.
21:12
Everybody had to stop and show their I
21:14
.D. You're being detained right?
21:17
You get detained when you get pulled over
21:19
by a cop for speeding.
21:20
You're being detained.
21:21
But the funny thing is, I love that
21:23
report because it says, you know, well, we're
21:25
doing 300 a day.
21:27
No one was complaining about that.
21:30
No, of course not.
21:31
That was because it was Democrats.
21:33
The media has really lost the plot.
21:38
They've never had it.
21:39
So here we go with ABC.
21:40
Now we're going to get to the good
21:41
ones.
21:42
Martha Radnitz, for starters.
21:45
Tonight, for the first time, U.S. military
21:48
aircraft flying undocumented migrants out of the country
21:52
as President Donald Trump launches his deportation campaign.
21:56
They really, they all shared the script, didn't
21:59
they?
21:59
Undocumented migrants.
22:01
Okay.
22:02
And I think it was NPR who shared
22:04
with the world that that was now their
22:06
new style guide, right?
22:09
We had the clip, yeah.
22:10
I think undocumented.
22:11
You can't say anything but something like that.
22:14
The White House releasing these pictures dozens of
22:17
migrants in chains boarding C-17 aircraft.
22:21
The flights landing in Guatemala carrying roughly 160
22:25
people, men and women.
22:28
Deportation's going very well.
22:29
Today, the Trump administration's new borders are.
22:32
Tom Homan telling me it's only the beginning
22:35
and he has a stark warning to anyone
22:38
who's in the country illegally.
22:40
So is this what we will see every
22:43
single day ending in what the president has
22:47
promised is millions and millions being deported?
22:49
Yes, but you can see the numbers steadily
22:52
increase the number of arrests nationwide as we
22:54
open up the aperture.
22:55
Right now it's concentrating public safety threats, national
22:58
security threats.
22:59
That's a smaller population.
23:00
If you're in the country illegally, you got
23:01
a problem.
23:02
And that's why I'm hoping those who are
23:04
in the country illegally who have not been
23:05
ordered removed by the federal judge should leave.
23:08
Homan was very clear that those committing violent
23:11
crimes will be deported first and acknowledges that
23:15
the show of force, these strong warnings to
23:17
all undocumented immigrants are meant to send a
23:20
message that they should self-deport since it
23:23
would take a very long time and massive
23:25
amounts of manpower and money to deport an
23:28
estimated 11 million undocumented immigrants.
23:32
Okay.
23:32
Okay.
23:35
Yeah, this is the good stuff.
23:38
11 million.
23:39
11 million.
23:41
Now they're admitting there's that many.
23:43
Yeah, all of a sudden.
23:44
11 million.
23:45
We know the number.
23:47
All right.
23:48
So we go to the final one.
23:49
This is Brian Roberts, the Comcast CEO's fabulous
23:54
NBC Trump hate network.
23:57
Tonight a dramatic escalation of President Trump's illegal
24:01
immigration crackdown.
24:03
The first of 1500 extra troops touching down
24:06
in El Paso, Texas to support border security
24:08
and for the first time migrants being deported
24:11
not on chartered flights like before, but on
24:14
military aircraft.
24:15
Two flights landing this morning in Guatemala.
24:18
We're getting the bad, hard criminals out.
24:20
These are murderers.
24:21
These are people that have been as bad
24:24
as you get.
24:25
After a record 10 million illegal border crossings
24:28
over the past four years, ICE now ramping
24:30
up roundups of undocumented immigrants making 538 arrests
24:34
yesterday across the country doubling its daily average
24:37
in September.
24:39
Cities including San Francisco, Salt Lake City and
24:41
Atlanta.
24:42
In Newark, New Jersey, this surveillance video appears
24:45
to show ICE agents making arrests.
24:47
City officials and immigrant advocates say ICE agents
24:50
raided this local business, arresting three undocumented immigrants
24:53
and briefly detaining an American citizen, a military
24:57
veteran, while they asked him for documentation.
24:59
Do you plan to use city resources to
25:02
impede ICE?
25:02
We're not going to participate in what we
25:04
think is unlawful.
25:06
Newark's Democratic Mayor Rouse Baraka telling us late
25:08
today there were two more operations in his
25:10
city where more than a third of the
25:12
population was born outside the U.S. Meantime,
25:15
Gabe, you have some new reporting about Mexico's
25:18
role in all this.
25:19
Yes, Lester.
25:20
Two U.S. defense officials tell NBC News
25:23
that Mexico denied access to a U.S.
25:26
military deportation plane on Thursday.
25:29
As we mentioned, two planes landed in Guatemala
25:30
today.
25:31
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
25:33
I saw the president also had a chat
25:35
with Bukele from El Salvador.
25:37
They had a nice talk, talked about the
25:40
criminals.
25:43
I have to play this additional clip here.
25:45
This is from Al Jazeera.
25:47
And this is the Deportation Inc.
25:51
complaints that this was never reported.
25:53
I'm surprised that our people didn't report it
25:56
this way too, but play this clip.
25:59
The Brazilian government says it's outraged after dozens
26:02
of migrants deported by the U.S. arrived
26:04
in handcuffs.
26:05
Brazil ordered U.S. officials to immediately remove
26:07
the restraints.
26:09
The justice minister called it a flagrant disregard
26:11
for the rights of Brazilian citizens.
26:13
The flight carried around 80 men, women, children.
26:16
State officials distributed meals and checked on their
26:19
well-being.
26:20
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
26:21
So they sent the 80 guys.
26:23
Any of these flights, they're going to cuff
26:25
the guys because if they're the criminals, you
26:27
don't want some criminals roaming around the planes
26:30
causing havoc?
26:31
No, it's an outrage.
26:32
It's an outrage.
26:34
But so they sent these guys back to
26:36
Brazil, which was not reported in any of
26:38
our other media.
26:39
They only had Guatemala.
26:41
Guatemala.
26:41
And so the Brazilian guys got bent out
26:44
of shape about it.
26:45
But come on.
26:47
What's interesting is that France is cracking down
26:50
on immigration.
26:51
Don't hear much about that.
26:54
Here's how France 24 reports on their tightening
26:57
of immigration.
26:58
France is tightening its policies on undocumented migrants.
27:01
Notice the same words.
27:04
It's undocumented migrants.
27:06
And these are probably not even criminals.
27:08
France is tightening its policies on undocumented migrants.
27:12
On Friday, French Interior Minister Bruno Retailleau circulated
27:16
an official memo to departmental and regional officials
27:18
which will restrict their capacity to grant them
27:21
legal status.
27:22
The new directive on exceptional admissions of residents
27:25
will reverse guidelines implemented in 2012 by former
27:28
Minister Manuel Valls which gave prefectures a certain
27:31
margin in dealing with the status of migrants
27:33
on a case-by-case basis.
27:35
If we aren't too open to offering possibilities
27:37
to grant legal status to migrants, what will
27:40
be compromised, which is already happening, is integration
27:43
or assimilation.
27:45
It's a numbers game.
27:46
Retailleau set out a number of criteria for
27:49
migrants seeking legal status.
27:50
Now listen to this.
27:52
Most notably, his official memo increases the residency
27:55
requirement in the country from 5 to 7
27:57
years.
27:58
Only workers in key sectors will be granted
28:00
legal residency status and their mastery of the
28:03
French language must be proved by a French
28:05
diploma or a language certification.
28:07
Undocumented immigrants who, quote, pose a threat to
28:10
the public order, who practice polygamy or are
28:12
subject to an obligation to leave France won't
28:15
be granted legal status in the country.
28:17
Polygamy?
28:19
If you practice polygamy?
28:22
Yeah, this is targeting the Muslim population that
28:25
practices polygamy.
28:26
Yes.
28:28
Imagine President Trump saying that.
28:32
It would be outrageous.
28:35
It would be outrageous.
28:37
Everyone would be losing their crap over it.
28:40
But France, the French are like, eh, oui,
28:43
oui.
28:44
Alright, we're going to stay in Europe.
28:46
I have some very, very short little snippets
28:50
from Queen Ursula, who is very, very clear
28:54
about everything going on in the world and
28:56
Trump has just ruined everything and we've got
28:58
to do something, we've got to work together.
29:00
But it is important that we balance the
29:04
imperative to safeguard our security against our opportunity
29:10
to innovate and enhance our prosperity.
29:13
Right.
29:14
In this spirit, we will need to work
29:18
together to avoid a global race to the
29:22
bottom.
29:23
Because it is in no one's interest to
29:25
break the bonds of the global economy.
29:28
Rather, we need to modernize the rules to
29:32
sustain our ability to produce mutual gain for
29:37
our citizens.
29:38
We have to modernize the rules.
29:39
She's trying to desperately hold on to globalism
29:42
while it's crumbling underneath her feet.
29:46
There was an interesting I don't think I
29:48
clipped it, but Tommy Smothers, I mean Davis
29:52
Hanson Tommy Smothers Victor Davis Hanson, you mean?
29:58
Yeah, that guy.
29:59
He had an interesting point to me.
30:00
He said that the EU, he's bitching about
30:03
the Davos thing, and he said that 25
30:06
years ago, the entire part of Europe that
30:09
became what's today's EU had the exact same
30:14
GDP as the United States.
30:16
And now after all these years of globalism,
30:19
25 years later, their GDP is about half
30:22
of what ours is.
30:23
Is that really true?
30:24
I didn't know that.
30:24
I didn't know that either when I'm listening
30:26
to it.
30:27
And he's not a guy who makes these
30:28
kinds of mistakes.
30:30
He's very, you know, he's a bean counter
30:33
at heart.
30:36
So, and he says and the salaries are
30:39
60% of ours.
30:41
It's just that this whole scheme is falling
30:45
apart, and when she says race to the
30:47
bottom, it makes some sense, because that's what
30:50
they're doing.
30:51
Their own race to the bottom.
30:53
Yeah.
30:54
So, she's now going to explain and this
30:58
is the exact opposite.
30:59
It's wonderful to see.
31:02
We are drill baby drill, although oil baron
31:06
Paul keeps telling me bro, we're not drilling,
31:09
we're not drilling more.
31:10
It's getting he's now up to 20 million
31:13
dollars for R&D for each well that
31:16
he drills up from 16 million.
31:19
He says we're not going to be drilling
31:21
a lot more, but okay.
31:24
That's our policy is drill baby drill.
31:28
In Europe, here's Queen Ursula.
31:30
The last 25 years, Europe has relied on
31:35
the rising tide of global trade to drive
31:38
its growth.
31:40
It has relied on cheap energy from Russia.
31:43
Yeah, it was good.
31:45
And Europe has too often outsourced its own
31:49
security.
31:51
But those days are gone.
31:53
They're gone.
31:54
They're gone.
31:55
They're gone.
31:56
You're screwed.
31:57
So she's not going to outsource her security
31:59
to us.
32:00
That's what she's saying.
32:01
These days are gone.
32:02
Good for us.
32:03
Good for us.
32:04
Now, of course, the days of cheap Russian
32:07
energy are gone.
32:08
You could bring them right back if you
32:11
wanted to.
32:12
Just do a deal.
32:16
No, no, no.
32:16
But we have to explain this as climate
32:19
change.
32:21
The coming years will be vital well beyond
32:24
Europe.
32:25
All continents will have to speed up the
32:28
transition towards net zero.
32:31
And deal with the growing burden of climate
32:33
change.
32:35
Its impact is impossible to ignore.
32:39
Well, the impact of what?
32:41
Climate change or net zero?
32:43
I think net zero, that impact will be
32:45
impossible to ignore.
32:46
But she's got solutions.
32:49
Here's what we're going to do.
32:50
We will have to invest in next generation
32:52
clean energy technologies like fusion, enhanced geothermal.
32:57
Oh, please.
32:59
Oh, man.
33:01
Fusion.
33:02
Fusion.
33:02
Here comes the old fusion again.
33:06
Pie in the sky.
33:07
Technologies like fusion, enhanced geothermal, and solid state
33:11
batteries.
33:12
Solid state batteries.
33:14
What is this nonsense?
33:15
What is she talking about?
33:18
Lead acid?
33:18
Okay, fusion.
33:19
Let's start with that.
33:20
Let's start with fusion.
33:21
That's bull crap.
33:22
They can't do it.
33:23
No one's been able to do this.
33:25
Of course, the real goal is cold fusion
33:28
where you don't have to even worry about
33:29
the heat.
33:29
But they can't seem to get that to
33:31
work.
33:32
And this has been worked on forever, and
33:34
everyone knows it would be great if it
33:36
ever worked, but they can't get it to
33:38
work.
33:38
It's just a money loser.
33:40
And then, so I don't know what she's
33:42
talking about.
33:42
Battery technology is old.
33:43
It's from the 1800s.
33:44
Nothing's really changed.
33:45
They've only tweaked it.
33:47
Well, let's look it up.
33:48
That's a loser.
33:49
What are solid state batteries?
33:54
What are solid state batteries?
33:56
What are solid state batteries?
33:56
That's either capacitors.
33:57
You know, the old capacitor battery.
34:00
Oh, wait.
34:01
They're known as SSBs.
34:03
Solid electrolyte for ionic conduction between the electrodes
34:08
as opposed to the liquid or gel polymer
34:11
electrodes found in traditional batteries.
34:14
Yeah, okay.
34:16
You know that...
34:17
You know, I'm going to get email for
34:19
you.
34:20
You don't know...
34:21
Dvorak's all wrong.
34:23
There's all kinds of stuff.
34:23
Yeah, if it was any good, they'd already
34:24
be implemented.
34:25
So what is the...
34:26
What was the second one?
34:27
She had fusion, which is just bogus.
34:30
Let's listen.
34:32
Energy technologies like fusion, enhanced geothermal.
34:36
Enhanced geothermal.
34:37
Enhanced geothermal.
34:38
Okay, so that...
34:39
You know, Iceland is largely a geothermal hotspot
34:42
and the whole country is run by the
34:45
volcano they're sitting on top of.
34:47
What is enhanced?
34:49
I guess you have to drill a little
34:50
deeper.
34:51
I don't know.
34:51
You drill a deep hole until you hit
34:53
the molten rock in the middle of the
34:55
earth and you...
34:56
I have no idea how you enhance it.
34:59
You either got it or you don't.
35:01
And Europe doesn't have that.
35:03
Not yet.
35:04
They need to invest in it.
35:04
Europe hasn't got oil.
35:05
They haven't got...
35:06
The coal has been dug out of...
35:08
I mean, England...
35:09
England has it.
35:10
They gave it up.
35:11
England has a lot of coal.
35:12
But the main part of Europe has very
35:15
little...
35:15
I mean, there's some fracking opportunities and they
35:17
have a lot of minerals and stuff.
35:19
They need this better to get their stuff
35:20
from outside.
35:22
They're nuts.
35:23
And then when they do have something like
35:26
standard nuclear like the Germans have and then
35:28
they shut it down?
35:30
That's nuts.
35:31
These people are out of control.
35:33
They're just trying to...
35:35
I think they want to get themselves into
35:37
another war between the states.
35:40
I didn't clip it but I watched President
35:43
Trump's speech to the Davos crowd and the
35:48
question and answer session was quite entertaining, quite
35:50
good.
35:51
And he said, hey, if you build a
35:53
factory plant here, we'll let you put your...
35:57
You won't have to be on the grid.
35:58
You can build your power plant right next
36:01
to your factory.
36:02
You can use gas.
36:04
Beautiful, cheap gas.
36:07
And if you want, if you need a
36:08
backup, you can use our clean coal.
36:12
Beautiful, clean coal.
36:13
I thought I heard the whole thing but
36:15
I guess it was that.
36:16
It might have been during Q&A.
36:18
Clean coal.
36:19
Well, we have clean coal.
36:21
Yeah, we do have anthracite.
36:23
It's a very clean coal.
36:24
It's beautiful.
36:24
And then if you have scrubbing mechanisms, the
36:27
things that can clean out the effluent, it's
36:29
dynamite.
36:31
But think about that versus all this enhanced
36:35
germal...
36:36
Germal?
36:37
Enhanced germal thermics.
36:41
And fusion and what else did she have?
36:43
Solid-state batteries.
36:45
And solid-state batteries.
36:47
And let's start with this before you get
36:50
your notes from the angry producers that we
36:52
have out there listening to this show nitpicking
36:54
what we have to say.
36:57
Why are...
36:58
Why are solid-state batteries any better than
37:02
any other battery?
37:03
If they were any better, they'd be in
37:05
the Tesla's today, I'm sure.
37:07
Wouldn't you think?
37:08
I would totally think.
37:09
And solid-state batteries.
37:12
We must also mobilize more private capital to
37:14
modernize our electricity grids and storage infrastructure.
37:18
That's what you can't do.
37:18
Yeah, we need money.
37:19
They can't do that.
37:20
They don't know how to do that part.
37:22
And then she did something very interesting because
37:24
she dropped it, which means it's in play.
37:28
You know, of course you've got AI.
37:30
Everyone's got to have some AI.
37:31
Gotta have some AI.
37:32
And she dropped the Q word.
37:34
From AI to clean tech.
37:36
From quantum to space.
37:39
From the Arctic to the South China Sea.
37:44
The race is on.
37:45
Yeah, baby.
37:47
This brings me to the news about AI.
37:50
Oh, everyone's talking about it now.
37:52
Oh, boy.
37:53
They're going to have to crank up the
37:55
quantum.
37:57
We need some pie-in-the-sky thing
38:00
that can suck up all the money that's
38:03
floating out there.
38:03
It's like $150 billion in the U.S.
38:07
markets alone just ready to invest in something
38:09
stupid like quantum because the AI game appears
38:13
to be over.
38:14
I go to CNBC.
38:16
First, we were reeling from the success of
38:18
China's AI upstart DeepSeek.
38:20
Now, TikTok's parent company, ByteDance, has just entered
38:23
the AI race in a big way, escalating
38:26
competition between the U.S. and China.
38:28
Deirdre Bosa has more in today's Tech Check.
38:30
Deirdre?
38:31
Kelly, I feel a little bit like a
38:32
broken record this week, but the momentum from
38:35
Chinese AI players has been unrelenting.
38:38
ByteDance, as you mentioned, now claims that its
38:41
model, Duobao 1.5 Pro, outperforms OpenAI's latest
38:45
reasoning model products.
38:46
And just days before you mentioned this, an
38:48
open-source model out of Chinese AI lab,
38:51
DeepSeek, was released that rivals OpenAI's O1 on
38:55
several third-party performance benchmarks.
38:57
But those two have something else besides performance
38:59
in common that makes it starkly different than
39:03
our American ones, and that is cost.
39:05
They were many times cheaper to build and
39:07
are many times cheaper to access.
39:09
So developers are really interested in these models.
39:13
Big American players, too, at Davos are taking
39:15
note.
39:16
Each of them, extremely influential CEOs working in
39:20
AI, they mention DeepSeek by name.
39:23
And so we've been digging into this lab
39:25
that's very mysterious, and also the breakthroughs that
39:28
has everyone talking.
39:29
We'll be publishing our long-form tech check
39:31
take tomorrow morning, diving into what it all
39:33
means, so don't miss that, Kelly.
39:35
So, diving into all of it, what does
39:36
it all mean?
39:37
What is the big difference?
39:38
What is the real advantage?
39:39
What is really happening?
39:40
So, going back to what TikTok is up
39:42
to, what's most significant about it, do you
39:45
think?
39:45
The cost.
39:46
I mean, these models coming out of China
39:48
are just built at a fraction of the
39:51
price.
39:52
When you think about OpenAI that's spending $5
39:54
billion a year, burning through billions of dollars
39:57
a year.
39:58
These models, the DeepSeek one, for example, they
40:00
say they built it for less than $6
40:03
million.
40:04
ByteDance as well shows that it was built
40:07
and you can access it at much much
40:09
lower prices.
40:10
So this really turns on sort of this
40:12
truth that we have thought about generative AI
40:14
for the last few years, that you need
40:16
hundreds of millions of dollars to develop bigger
40:18
and better models.
40:20
What the Chinese labs and companies are doing
40:23
is they're going straight to the frontier.
40:24
They're building with sort of infrastructure and outputs
40:28
that are already out there, built in many
40:29
cases by American companies and startups and they're
40:33
improving on it.
40:34
They're innovating on it and producing models that
40:38
are just as good in some cases at
40:40
a fraction of the cost.
40:41
So maybe we don't need to buy the
40:42
nuclear stocks after all.
40:43
Maybe we don't need a million GPUs down
40:45
in Abilene.
40:47
That's a good question.
40:48
Interesting.
40:49
It does raise a lot of questions, even
40:50
about Project Stargate, right?
40:52
What kind of infrastructure are we building here?
40:54
Is it for pre-training, like we've had
40:56
for the last two years, or is it
40:57
for reasoning and inference, which is a different
41:00
cost proposition?
41:01
Exactly, and you almost wonder if that's why
41:03
Microsoft is evolving its partnership with OpenAI.
41:05
Yeah, Microsoft may be the last to laugh
41:08
at this.
41:09
They're throwing out nothing.
41:11
There's no proof of anything that they said.
41:14
It's all black.
41:17
It's like you and I come up with
41:19
an AI model that's one tenth the cost.
41:21
It's one tenth the cost, Adam.
41:23
We've got it at one tenth the cost.
41:24
Tell CNBC, oh, they've got it at one
41:26
tenth the cost.
41:29
You said it.
41:30
It doesn't mean you did it.
41:32
The tests have actually been done.
41:33
The models have already been released.
41:35
People are testing it, and they're seeing that
41:38
the training goes much faster at a lower
41:40
cost.
41:41
Yes, because they're doing there's a bunch of
41:43
tricks that they're up to.
41:45
Oh, fine.
41:46
All right, please, please.
41:47
They're up to tricks A and B.
41:49
They can't get the NVIDIA chips, so they've
41:52
got to come up with some way of
41:54
doing this without going broke.
41:57
This is bull crap.
41:58
Hold on a second.
42:00
Sam Altman on the phone for you.
42:02
Thanks, John.
42:03
Thanks.
42:03
You're keeping my stocks going.
42:05
This is good.
42:05
Thank you very much.
42:07
Regardless, I'm keeping my eye on it.
42:10
I see the pivot to quantum coming.
42:12
They're going to start talking about it.
42:14
That's the problem right there.
42:16
What do you mean?
42:17
You can't pivot to quantum because quantum is
42:19
bull crap.
42:20
Oh, but they're going to.
42:21
Yes, of course it's bull crap.
42:23
So was Pets.com at the time.
42:26
Yes, this is the bubble.
42:28
This is the bubble.
42:29
The pivot to quantum is coming.
42:31
Doesn't matter.
42:32
Let's see what this means to consumers down
42:36
on the ground, you and me in the
42:37
home.
42:38
What does all this incredible investment AI result
42:41
in?
42:41
For that, we only have to go to
42:43
CES 2025, which you used to cover.
42:47
I've been to it.
42:49
I don't think either of us has been
42:50
in over a decade or longer.
42:53
Since COVID, that's for sure.
42:54
Or longer.
42:55
Let's get a report from KTLA's Rich on
42:57
Tech.
42:58
CES 2025 where the tech world descends upon
43:01
Las Vegas.
43:02
This year, over 4,000 exhibitors and over
43:05
130,000 attendees expected.
43:08
Everything must be there.
43:10
All the good stuff.
43:11
All the wonderful enhancements and inventions.
43:14
To check out innovations in AI, smart home,
43:17
cars, and, of course, TVs.
43:19
But big screens are also getting more personal
43:21
thanks to augmented reality glasses like the Xreal1.
43:26
They are connected to my phone.
43:27
Oh, wow.
43:28
Plug them into your phone or computer, and
43:30
suddenly...
43:31
I can see my phone screen now hovering
43:34
in space.
43:35
Mobility.
43:36
I think people want...
43:37
Stop the clip.
43:39
I saw this technology, oh, let's see, probably
43:43
in the 80s.
43:44
You could see your phone screen hovering in
43:47
space from your StarTAC?
43:49
Well, you saw...
43:52
No, these glasses that could do this.
43:54
It was like, and by the way, really
43:56
hard on the eyes.
43:57
You don't notice it at first.
43:59
Hard on the eyes, by the way, to
44:00
look at the person wearing them.
44:02
It's like you're wearing, like, big jam pot
44:04
bottoms.
44:05
It's bad every which way.
44:06
I can see my phone screen now hovering
44:10
in space.
44:11
Mobility.
44:12
I think people want...
44:13
Hold on a second.
44:15
Why did you just use the phone?
44:17
You got your phone in your hand, and
44:20
now you can see the phone screen hovering
44:22
in space?
44:23
Yes.
44:23
What's the point?
44:24
You got the phone in your hand.
44:27
What do you need it hovering in space
44:29
for?
44:29
So you can go, oh, wow.
44:31
I mean...
44:35
Spoons in space!
44:37
Hovering in space.
44:38
Mobility.
44:39
I think people want to take their entertainment,
44:41
their work, on the go.
44:43
On the go.
44:43
On the go.
44:44
On the go, John.
44:46
It's on the go.
44:47
Which it already is, but now it's on
44:49
your head.
44:50
It's gotta be an improvement.
44:51
Entertainment, their work, on the go.
44:53
Samsung teaming up with the Museum of Modern
44:56
Art to provide high-quality artwork to its
44:58
frame TVs.
44:59
Oh, haven't seen that before.
45:02
Oh, I've never heard of such a thing.
45:04
Which look like a print when not in
45:05
use.
45:06
Samsung promoting a vision of AI for all.
45:09
You're gonna be able to just live your
45:10
life and let the technology take care of
45:13
that back-end work for you?
45:15
All our back-end work, they're gonna do
45:16
the spreadsheet for us.
45:17
Fire J!
45:19
It's done!
45:20
It's done!
45:21
The technology's gonna do the back-end work
45:23
for us.
45:23
It's gonna just do it for you, yes.
45:25
So you feel empowered by that technology rather
45:27
than overwhelmed.
45:28
And will feel empowered.
45:29
LG wants AI to be more personal for
45:32
users.
45:32
We're looking at it as affectionate intelligence.
45:36
And affectionate intelligence means if we're affectionate, we
45:38
care.
45:39
So I think whenever you start changing the
45:41
name of a new technology from artificial to
45:44
affectionate, I think they're in trouble.
45:47
...and entrepreneur, Will.i.am on hand to
45:50
talk about his new LG XBOOM speakers.
45:52
He's got speakers with AI!
45:54
Which are tuned for balance and warm sound.
45:57
They also have an AI DJ to mix
45:59
personalized music.
46:00
No, brother.
46:03
This is the must-see show for any
46:05
tech lover.
46:06
No, I don't think so.
46:07
That is not the tech lover in me.
46:13
Oh, boy.
46:14
I did run across, just to wrap this
46:17
segment up, I ran across a very interesting
46:19
Freakonomics episode with computer scientist Ben Zhao He's
46:29
an AI skeptic but he has some tips
46:33
this is an early tip of the day
46:35
for artists out there how to help bring
46:39
AI to its knees to create more AI
46:42
slop with two tools which he will mention
46:45
by name.
46:46
So Zhao's solution was to poison the system
46:49
that was causing this trouble.
46:50
Poison is sort of a technical term in
46:53
the research community basically it means manipulating training
46:56
data in such a way to get AI
46:59
models to do something perhaps unexpected perhaps more
47:02
to your goals than the original trainers intended
47:05
to.
47:06
They came up with two poisoning tools, one
47:09
called Glaze, the other Nightshade.
47:12
Glaze is all about making it harder to
47:14
target and mimic individual artists.
47:18
Nightshade is a little bit more far-reaching.
47:21
Its goal is primarily to make training on
47:24
internet scraped data more expensive than it is
47:28
now.
47:28
Perhaps more expensive than actually licensing legitimate data
47:32
which ultimately is our hope that this would
47:35
push some of these AI companies to seek
47:37
out legitimate licensing deals with artists so that
47:40
they can properly be compensated.
47:43
Glaze and Nightshade so to the human eye
47:47
there's no difference but it does something with
47:50
the image itself and it messes up the
47:53
AI.
47:54
AI poisoning.
47:55
This is very intricate.
47:57
This sounds like bull crap.
47:58
Everything is bull crap to you.
48:00
It's not.
48:01
Today's theme.
48:03
Bull crap.
48:06
No, it's proven to work.
48:08
I go to one of these systems and
48:11
I download something and tell it to make
48:12
it look like a Monet and it gives
48:14
me some product.
48:15
What do these other things got to do
48:17
with it?
48:18
So that if you put your artwork out
48:20
there when the AI goes to ingest that
48:22
and steal your soul it will either not
48:25
be able to ingest it.
48:26
I got my artwork posted someplace.
48:29
How does glaze fit into the picture?
48:31
Do I have to put my artwork through
48:34
glaze and then post it that way?
48:36
Yes, correct.
48:37
So it's like a watermarking system.
48:39
No, it's not.
48:40
It's the same idea.
48:42
You embed code into the artwork and that
48:49
embedded code is like, it's just, I don't
48:51
see the difference between that and a watermark.
48:53
It's better.
48:53
A watermark is used for identification but in
48:55
this case it's used to screw up the
48:57
AI model.
48:59
Yes.
48:59
So everyone has to do that.
49:02
How does this change?
49:04
Picasso is not going to do that.
49:07
He's dead.
49:08
Okay.
49:10
I'm sorry I even brought it up with
49:11
you, Boomer.
49:12
No, I'm glad you brought it up because
49:13
it just shows you the futility of trying
49:15
to put a stop to it with these
49:16
cheap tricks.
49:19
I'm all for poisoning AI.
49:21
I just like how it sounds.
49:23
I like the whole idea.
49:24
I like being a radical.
49:26
You're nuts.
49:28
Poison the AI.
49:30
Yes, I'm all for poisoning the AI.
49:32
Why?
49:33
Because I can't take the emails anymore.
49:36
What's the emails telling you?
49:38
Oh, the artists.
49:40
The artists.
49:42
They're crying.
49:44
Crying.
49:45
I don't get any of these emails.
49:47
I think you're imagining this.
49:48
You must be dreaming it.
49:49
So not only is everything I play wrong
49:51
and stupid and not true.
49:53
No, there's a bullcrap game.
49:54
Now I'm lying?
49:55
You just have to put up with it.
49:57
Can you tell donations were low, everybody?
50:00
John is in one of those moods.
50:02
Tina even said to me, oh, John will
50:03
be something to deal with today.
50:07
You're right.
50:15
Good luck with this guy.
50:18
Why does he hate AI so much?
50:20
I mean, there's potential here.
50:23
Why do I hate AI so much?
50:26
I mean, why?
50:27
I don't like it.
50:28
I think it's dumb.
50:29
I think it's expensive, stupid, and it just
50:31
does images and sound and we have an
50:33
end of show mix, which is okay, done
50:36
by AI.
50:37
But it's not...
50:39
I did a test because one of the
50:41
artists was like...
50:43
Okay, which artist was this?
50:45
I'm not going to tell you.
50:46
No, no, no.
50:47
It's between me and the artist.
50:49
And the artist says to me, you know,
50:52
this sucks and I said, you know, it's
50:55
a tool and it still works for now
50:58
until we poison it.
50:59
But it's a tool and there's no way
51:03
that AI can create an image by itself
51:08
without the soul of the artist going into
51:12
it.
51:12
Now, that may go in the form of
51:14
a prompt.
51:14
I mean, when we got graphics generation programs
51:18
and...
51:19
Actually, I ought to stop you because JC,
51:22
my son who's into this stuff, he has
51:25
an interest.
51:26
He remarks pretty much the same way you
51:28
just did which is it can't just dream
51:31
something up.
51:33
It can't actually create which means it's not
51:36
really AI.
51:37
There's no intelligence involved.
51:40
So you're complaining about just a robotic function.
51:43
No, no.
51:44
I'm with you.
51:46
I'm with JC.
51:46
What I'm saying to the artist is you're
51:49
wrong.
51:50
You are wrong because...
51:52
The artist.
51:53
The artist.
51:54
And I had an example which I had
51:55
the output for.
51:57
I said, I took the entire transcript of
52:00
episode 1732 so the AI had the entire
52:05
show.
52:06
They know what we talked about.
52:08
They know what we laughed about.
52:10
They knew all the things of all the
52:12
topics and everything.
52:14
The AI had it all.
52:15
It's an it, by the way.
52:16
Go on.
52:19
I don't know what the pronoun is.
52:21
Is AI...
52:22
It.
52:22
It.
52:23
Is an it.
52:24
Okay.
52:24
It's an it.
52:25
And I said, in fact, if you go
52:27
to crapart.noagendanotes.com Crap art?
52:34
Yes.
52:34
Crap art.
52:36
This is one of your new...
52:38
Crap art.
52:39
Go to it.
52:40
It's HTTP, by the way.
52:41
Not HTTPS.
52:43
And I said, this is the prompt given
52:45
to ChatGPT.
52:46
Using this transcript of the No Agenda podcast,
52:48
and there's the link, create an image that
52:50
displays in a humorous topical way something that
52:53
will grab...
52:54
Oh, this is interesting what you did.
52:56
Let me tell you why.
52:57
Let me finish the sentence.
52:58
Create an image that displays in a humorous
53:00
topical way something that will grab people's attention
53:03
and entice them to listen to the episode.
53:06
And then the result came back, and I
53:08
will read it first.
53:09
Here's the humorous and attention-grabbing illustration inspired
53:12
by the No Agenda podcast episode 1732.
53:15
It combines satire, bold visuals, and a playful
53:18
approach to the themes mentioned in the episode.
53:20
Let me know if you need any adjustments.
53:23
Now you tell me, would we choose that
53:25
art?
53:26
Oh, I have to go look at it.
53:28
I can't believe...
53:29
Everyone's looking at it.
53:32
But me.
53:32
But you.
53:33
Crap AI?
53:35
No, crapart.noagendanotes.com crapart.noagendanotes.com Oh,
53:39
brother.
53:40
Crap.
53:41
One word.
53:42
Crapart.
53:43
Dot.
53:43
Dot.
53:44
No agenda notes.
53:46
No agenda notes.
53:47
Dot com.
53:49
Crapart.noagendanotes.com Crapart.noagendanotes.com AI cannot
53:54
do what art is doing.
53:54
Here's the artwork.
53:56
This is the...
53:57
You're talking about the army of this thing?
53:59
That's what it produced, based on the entire
54:01
knowledge of the entire episode.
54:06
Well, you made your point.
54:08
Well, just tell people, would we ever choose
54:10
this?
54:10
This is a disaster.
54:12
Thank you.
54:14
A disaster.
54:15
Because there is no intelligence, there's no humor,
54:18
there's no soul.
54:19
Well, that's the interesting thing.
54:21
That's what I was going to say, before
54:22
you had to finish the sentence, which was
54:25
when you give professional spot artists, the guys
54:30
who do these illustrations for newspapers and magazines
54:32
and every place in between.
54:35
We used to do this at PC Magazine.
54:37
Mac user used to always have a piece
54:38
of spot art for my column that was
54:40
in the back of the I made a
54:42
lot of friends with these artists because I
54:44
always begged them to get the originals and
54:46
I ended up with a lot of art.
54:49
And they'd read the article and then something
54:53
that would dawn on them, that would be
54:54
a cute illustration, and that's what a spot
54:56
artist is good at.
54:58
You'd read the article and then you'd say,
54:59
you know, I think this would draw some
55:01
piece, a little art piece that somehow reflected
55:05
the article.
55:07
Very difficult to do.
55:09
In this instance, what you've done is try
55:11
to recreate that system, which is the way
55:14
humans operate, and the AI failed miserably.
55:19
Bigly.
55:21
Miserably.
55:21
Bigly.
55:22
Yes.
55:23
I mean, just look at it.
55:24
It's a complete disaster, as a matter of
55:27
fact.
55:27
It's a disaster.
55:29
Exactly.
55:30
So people should go to this website that
55:32
you have, that you can rewind.
55:34
I'm not going to do it again.
55:35
My point is that when I asked it,
55:38
I didn't say, make it like this, do
55:40
it like that.
55:41
That comes from the human soul.
55:42
No, you just had to do an original
55:43
piece of art.
55:44
Yeah, based upon what it heard in the
55:47
episode.
55:47
So a human can listen to our episode,
55:49
or could even read through the transcript, and
55:52
could go, oh, I know what I'm going
55:53
to do.
55:54
And they come up with ideas.
55:55
That's intelligence.
55:57
That's the human psyche.
55:58
That is, that's, it's in your DNA.
56:01
That's the kind of stuff that AI cannot
56:04
do.
56:04
So get to it, hop to it before
56:07
it's all poisoned.
56:07
You can still make cool stuff.
56:11
So I'm on your side.
56:13
So you were assuaging the artist.
56:16
Yes.
56:16
This part was part of your long-term
56:18
scheme to get the artist to calm down.
56:21
Yes, of course.
56:21
And just use the tool until it craps
56:24
out.
56:24
Correct.
56:26
Yeah, okay.
56:26
Exactly right.
56:27
I can't call you out on that.
56:29
No.
56:29
Oh, finally.
56:30
I got one.
56:31
A little bit better material.
56:32
Fifty-six minutes in, I've got one thing
56:34
you agree with.
56:34
Well, then let me spin you around, and
56:36
I'll be done for a moment.
56:40
As I predicted, or as I said, what
56:43
would needed to happen was, in order for
56:47
crypto to take off in the United States,
56:50
the SEC had to change their SAB-121
56:53
regulation, and they did.
56:56
They rescinded SAB-121, now permitting banks to
56:59
custody crypto, specifically Bitcoin, and it not be
57:04
a liability on their balance sheet.
57:06
So they can hold it now.
57:08
They can be an asset holder for customers.
57:11
And this is all in part thanks to
57:13
the new crypto czar.
57:16
Crypto and AI czar from the All In
57:19
podcast.
57:20
A podcaster is a crypto czar in the
57:22
administration.
57:23
David Sachs.
57:25
And I've been waiting to figure out what
57:27
they're going to do with stable coin, and
57:30
I think I have it figured out.
57:32
So this executive order bans agencies from developing
57:35
a central bank digital currency.
57:36
Why is that?
57:38
Well, CBDCs are a real threat to freedom
57:40
and liberty.
57:41
What you're talking about there is moving to
57:43
a central bank digital currency that would be
57:46
run out of Washington by the Fed, and
57:49
would basically gradually replace cash and catalog everybody's
57:53
transactions, and it could lead to new laws
57:57
and dictates about how people spend their money.
57:59
So I think people are very concerned that
58:01
that could be an Orwellian path to go
58:02
down.
58:03
No one wants to go down that path,
58:04
and I think we can create stable coins,
58:07
basically digital dollars, without doing that.
58:09
So the executive order is really clear.
58:11
We want to create a regulatory framework for
58:12
stable coins, but we don't want to go
58:14
down the path of CBDCs.
58:16
But a digital currency for a government could
58:18
be competition to Bitcoin.
58:19
Did that play into that decision?
58:21
Well, I mean, any government can create a
58:24
stable coin, but I think the U.S.
58:26
dollar is already the world's reserve currency, so
58:28
I'm not really worried about competition there.
58:30
I just want to extend or I believe
58:32
that what we should be doing is extending
58:34
the dollar's dominance into digital areas, extend it
58:37
online, and I think that could actually create
58:40
trillions of dollars of demand for U.S.
58:42
treasuries.
58:42
It could be really useful to us in
58:45
basically supporting our debt and also bringing down
58:48
long-term interest rates.
58:49
So I don't know about long-term interest
58:51
rates and debt, but I figured it out.
58:54
The regulations or the way the executive order
58:57
reads is anybody can start a company and
59:00
create stable coin, which is typically a stable
59:04
coin.
59:04
I don't know of any others.
59:05
It's pegged to the dollar one-to-one.
59:08
So here's how it works.
59:09
You buy a U.S. treasury, which is
59:13
debt, and let's just say you buy $1
59:16
treasury.
59:16
It doesn't exist, but a $1 treasury.
59:18
So you've spent your dollar.
59:20
You now hold the treasury, and because you
59:22
have that $1 treasury, you can create a
59:25
$1 stable coin.
59:26
You get your dollar back.
59:29
It's genius.
59:32
Then flood the world with American dollars in
59:36
the form of stable coins.
59:38
This will be interesting because it will result
59:41
in the biggest depression we've ever seen, but
59:43
we'll see how that works out.
59:44
It might.
59:45
I'm not going to argue with you on
59:47
that, but now I understand what they're doing.
59:50
Well, they've got to do something about this
59:52
debt.
59:53
Well, yeah.
59:55
At this point, they can't even do the
59:57
trillion-dollar coin because they need to make
59:59
30 of them.
1:00:00
37 trillion of them.
1:00:03
37 coins.
1:00:04
It's like, wait a minute.
1:00:05
I just thought, wow, that is an amazing
1:00:08
trick.
1:00:09
Well, we'll see how it goes.
1:00:11
Yeah.
1:00:12
I like it.
1:00:12
I mean, you've got to do something, so
1:00:14
they might as well give this a shot.
1:00:15
Yeah.
1:00:16
All right.
1:00:16
Well, keep our eyes on it.
1:00:18
And, of course, you could because Tether, the
1:00:22
biggest stable coin holder, which I think they're
1:00:24
the ones that are in cahoots with who's
1:00:27
the guy, the Cantor Fitzgerald, I believe that
1:00:31
they're also using Bitcoin to back their stable
1:00:35
coin, which can't be a one-for-one.
1:00:38
They have to do it like 50%
1:00:39
or something for the fluctuation.
1:00:42
But we'll see.
1:00:42
We'll see.
1:00:43
But the stable coin is how the American
1:00:45
dollar is going to just flood the world.
1:00:48
Everyone's going to be using it.
1:00:49
And that's what Trump has always wanted.
1:00:52
He always wants to keep the dollar.
1:00:53
It'll be the stable coin.
1:00:57
Four more years, baby.
1:00:58
Then we're out, you and me.
1:01:00
And we're done.
1:01:01
There'll be nothing left to talk about.
1:01:04
There'll be nothing left to talk about.
1:01:06
There'll be nothing left.
1:01:09
All right.
1:01:09
You're up.
1:01:10
What you got?
1:01:10
Okay.
1:01:11
Well, we got a bunch of stuff.
1:01:12
We can also talk about the Hegseth because
1:01:15
we got through.
1:01:16
Yeah, let's do Hegseth.
1:01:17
Let's do the rundown from NPR for starters.
1:01:20
And this is called...
1:01:21
These three clips are called Trump Rundown Firing
1:01:24
Hegseth NPR.
1:01:25
Okay.
1:01:26
Pete Hegseth was confirmed as Secretary of Defense
1:01:29
last night.
1:01:30
A squeaker of a vote.
1:01:31
This is part of a lightning round that
1:01:33
was the first week.
1:01:34
I love it.
1:01:34
The squeaker of a vote.
1:01:36
The squeaker.
1:01:36
The speaker.
1:01:37
You actually have his voice down pretty well.
1:01:40
Thank you.
1:01:40
The new Trump administration.
1:01:42
A tide of change is sweeping the country.
1:01:44
Sunlight is pouring over the entire world.
1:01:47
So this is January 6th.
1:01:49
These are the hostages.
1:01:52
Approximately 1,500 for a pardon.
1:01:55
Yes.
1:01:56
Full pardon.
1:01:57
I'll also be signing an executive order to
1:01:59
begin the process of fundamentally reforming and overhauling
1:02:03
FEMA or maybe getting rid of FEMA.
1:02:05
I think, frankly, FEMA's not good.
1:02:06
President Trump wielded a sharpie to sign pardons
1:02:10
and commutations for supporters who participated in the
1:02:13
riot at the U.S. Capitol four years
1:02:15
ago and a profusion of executive orders.
1:02:18
Hold on.
1:02:19
What is a profusion?
1:02:21
What is a profusion?
1:02:22
A bunch.
1:02:23
Why does it just say a bunch?
1:02:26
You know, NPR, profusion's a good word.
1:02:30
A riot at the U.S. Capitol four
1:02:32
years ago and a profusion of executive orders
1:02:35
and a profusion.
1:02:36
No wonder they have no listeners.
1:02:38
They don't understand what they're saying.
1:02:49
Hold on.
1:02:51
One of our producers made an excellent point.
1:02:54
They're all saying inspector generals.
1:02:56
It's inspectors general.
1:03:00
Oh, that's a good point.
1:03:03
Make it sound like they're generals.
1:03:04
These guys are...
1:03:06
NPR says 12.
1:03:09
The Washington...
1:03:10
I think it was the Washington Post said
1:03:11
15, but there's actually 17.
1:03:14
Nobody gets these numbers right.
1:03:16
I mean, how hard can it be?
1:03:17
It's inspectors general, not inspector generals.
1:03:21
According to a number of media sources, fired
1:03:23
at least a dozen inspector generals of major
1:03:26
federal agencies.
1:03:27
If you're going to say profusion, you should
1:03:28
at least say inspectors general.
1:03:30
NPR's Ron Elving joins us.
1:03:32
Ron, thanks for being with us.
1:03:33
Good to be with you, Scott.
1:03:34
What do we know about last night's firings?
1:03:37
The inspector general position is a kind of
1:03:39
in-house watchdog in federal agencies.
1:03:42
In-house, but independent.
1:03:44
It's been a source of reform and oversight,
1:03:46
but also a source of frustration because of
1:03:49
their independence and uncertainty as to whom they
1:03:51
answer to.
1:03:52
Trump sent firing notices to a dozen of
1:03:55
these last night, some of whom are people
1:03:56
he himself appointed in his first term.
1:03:59
And it's unclear what the legal effect of
1:04:02
this will be, as the law says Congress
1:04:05
has to get 30 days notice in advance,
1:04:07
and obviously that didn't happen.
1:04:09
Well, how do you know?
1:04:10
How do you know he didn't give 30
1:04:11
days notice?
1:04:12
We don't know.
1:04:12
That's what everyone says.
1:04:14
Inspector Gadget, you're fired.
1:04:15
Done.
1:04:18
Number two.
1:04:20
Vice President Vance had to cast the tie
1:04:23
-breaking vote to confirm Pete Hegseth as defense
1:04:26
secretary last night.
1:04:28
Republican Senators Susan Collins and Lisa Murkowski voted
1:04:32
no.
1:04:33
So did Mitch McConnell, former Republican leader.
1:04:35
What's the significance?
1:04:36
Murkowski and Collins were expected, and there were
1:04:39
plenty of reasons for relatively centrist Republicans to
1:04:41
be unhappy with Hegseth.
1:04:43
His personal problems, of course, but also his
1:04:45
views on women and opposition to diversity in
1:04:49
general in the Defense Department and the Army
1:04:51
and Navy and so on.
1:04:53
But McConnell was a surprise.
1:04:55
He is no longer the party leader in
1:04:57
the Republican Party in the Senate.
1:04:59
He is serving out his last term as
1:05:00
a regular member, so in that role he
1:05:02
can to some degree be his own man.
1:05:05
And last night we saw that included the
1:05:08
desire to resist pressure from Trump when he
1:05:10
thought Trump had made a bad choice.
1:05:13
What do you think we're seeing over these
1:05:14
last few days?
1:05:16
We didn't call it Trump 2 or Trump
1:05:19
2.0. It's more like Trump 1.
1:05:22
More like Trump being the president that he
1:05:23
wanted to be all along.
1:05:26
Now, eight years ago, Trump came to Washington
1:05:27
willing to listen to people who wanted to
1:05:29
help him.
1:05:30
People who were part of the power structure
1:05:32
in the Congress or in the military or
1:05:35
within the power structure of the Republican Party
1:05:37
itself.
1:05:38
He allowed himself to be restrained by some
1:05:40
of his cabinet members and by his first
1:05:43
two chiefs of staff.
1:05:44
It now seems that he very much regretted
1:05:47
that restraint and things are going to be
1:05:49
quite different this time around.
1:05:51
Well, then it's not Trump 1 if it's
1:05:52
going to be different.
1:05:56
Collins and Murkowski.
1:05:59
Collins and Murkowski.
1:06:00
Collins is the worst.
1:06:01
She's the only Republican who voted for Xavier
1:06:06
Becerra, that guy who runs HHS who's got
1:06:09
no experience whatsoever.
1:06:11
He's worse than if you're going to compare
1:06:12
him to Kennedy, for example.
1:06:14
And she's the one Republican who voted for
1:06:17
him.
1:06:17
Why?
1:06:19
Every Republican said, no, this guy's no good.
1:06:21
No, no, I'm going to vote for him.
1:06:23
She had a stroke some years ago.
1:06:26
She's addled.
1:06:28
Collins?
1:06:30
Collins, yeah.
1:06:31
That's why she talks so funny.
1:06:33
But Mitch McConnell, he's got some neurological disorder.
1:06:36
Did you see the latest clip of him?
1:06:39
He's got brain freeze.
1:06:41
He just stops.
1:06:43
He's got something wrong with him.
1:06:44
He's a candidate for Neuralink.
1:06:46
But he's the one who said he's an
1:06:48
apologist for China.
1:06:49
He voted against Heg Setske.
1:06:51
He's married to a Chinese lady.
1:06:53
He's married to a Chinese guy.
1:06:54
I think she's a Chinese national, too.
1:06:56
At least was.
1:06:57
TikTok lady.
1:07:02
So he's no good.
1:07:03
He's no good.
1:07:04
He's no good.
1:07:05
I don't know what Murkowski's problem is.
1:07:08
Just think of the name, Murkowski.
1:07:10
I can't even say Murkowski.
1:07:11
You're a problem.
1:07:13
Are they going to be problems with everybody,
1:07:15
do you think?
1:07:16
Yep.
1:07:18
Interesting.
1:07:19
Final clip.
1:07:22
The idea seems to be to issue a
1:07:24
challenge, not just to his rivals or critics,
1:07:28
but to the entire federal establishment.
1:07:30
And I think he would like that description.
1:07:32
The main thing, he feels very empowered.
1:07:35
No more worries about re-election, so he
1:07:37
can be the kind of president he always
1:07:39
wanted to be.
1:07:40
Try and review some of those items, beginning
1:07:42
with the January 6th pardons and commutations.
1:07:45
This move may have been the biggest surprise
1:07:47
of the week.
1:07:48
The biggest surprise?
1:07:51
Really?
1:07:52
No, everyone knew he was going to do
1:07:53
this.
1:07:53
Risk.
1:07:54
Vice President Vance had said he supported pardons
1:07:57
for non-violent protesters, but not for those
1:08:00
who were violent, and especially not those who
1:08:02
beat on the police.
1:08:04
But then Trump pardoned almost all of those
1:08:06
charged, including the organizers, including the ringleaders, including
1:08:11
the most violent.
1:08:12
And how do you assess the executive orders
1:08:14
we've seen?
1:08:15
They run the gamut from pure fantasy to
1:08:18
cold reality.
1:08:19
Deportations are real.
1:08:20
They have begun.
1:08:21
But Trump's suggestion that he could really eliminate
1:08:23
birthright citizenship with a wave of his black
1:08:25
sharpie was shot down before the week was
1:08:27
over.
1:08:27
A federal judge in Seattle who was appointed
1:08:30
by Ronald Reagan four decades ago called it
1:08:33
a legal absurdity and clearly unconstitutional.
1:08:35
I don't know, because he was appointed by
1:08:36
Ronald Reagan, an old coot?
1:08:40
Eliminate birthright citizenship with a wave of his
1:08:42
black sharpie was shot down before the week
1:08:44
was over.
1:08:45
A federal judge in Seattle who was appointed
1:08:47
by Ronald Reagan four decades ago called it
1:08:49
a legal absurdity and clearly unconstitutional.
1:08:53
Does President Trump really want to get rid
1:08:55
of FEMA?
1:08:56
You can always get cheers at a rally
1:08:58
by promising to get rid of a federal
1:09:00
agency.
1:09:01
And Trump was not saying the federal government
1:09:02
would never provide any money, but just that
1:09:05
it wouldn't be up to FEMA.
1:09:06
He said the agency got in the way.
1:09:10
Yeah.
1:09:11
This thinking is not even that crazy.
1:09:13
But before we get to that, I want
1:09:15
to stick with Hegseth.
1:09:17
Because I got Elizabeth Warren here with some
1:09:19
choice words for our new secretary of defense.
1:09:22
Pete Hegseth, the Army National Guard veteran and
1:09:25
Fox News host who Trump nominated to lead
1:09:28
the Department of Defense, faces a Senate confirmation
1:09:31
vote later tonight.
1:09:33
That vote will occur amid Hegseth's own admission
1:09:36
that he made a $50,000 payment to
1:09:39
the woman who accused him of sexual assault
1:09:41
in 2017.
1:09:43
The revelation was one of the written answers
1:09:45
that Hegseth provided to Senator Elizabeth Warren in
1:09:49
response to additional questions that Warren posed to
1:09:51
Hegseth as part of the vetting process.
1:09:54
Senator Warren also had much to say about
1:09:56
these troubling allegations involving Hegseth's drinking habits.
1:10:00
Here we go.
1:10:01
The kind of drunk that you take work
1:10:04
folks to a strip club and so drunk
1:10:08
then that you try to get up on
1:10:10
stage and dance with the strippers.
1:10:12
The kind of drunk that stopped the Uber
1:10:14
because you're going to vomit drunk.
1:10:17
Look, I understand there are people who have
1:10:19
alcohol problems but we cannot trust the safety
1:10:24
of our country to someone who has demonstrated
1:10:28
repeatedly using very bad judgment with alcohol and
1:10:33
doing it in ways that truly have incapacitated
1:10:37
him.
1:10:38
Wow.
1:10:40
Well that reminds me of the smear I
1:10:42
have the clips here that NPR tried to
1:10:46
pull.
1:10:47
This is about a week ago.
1:10:48
This is Hegseth NBX smear.
1:10:54
Is NBX, is that NPR?
1:10:55
Is that like Cute Winter Boots?
1:11:01
Cute Winter Boots?
1:11:03
NBX?
1:11:04
From now on NPR is known as NBX
1:11:06
on this show.
1:11:08
NBX.
1:11:09
Here we go.
1:11:10
The President's nominee for Secretary of Defense is
1:11:12
once again facing allegations of alcohol abuse and
1:11:15
misconduct.
1:11:16
Yeah, Pete Hegseth endured a round of questions
1:11:19
about his past as well as his qualifications
1:11:21
and his nominations made it out of a
1:11:23
Senate committee on a party line vote.
1:11:25
The full Senate has yet to vote and
1:11:27
now his former sister-in-law has added
1:11:30
her own views.
1:11:31
She submitted an affidavit to Senators saying Hegseth
1:11:34
caused his ex-wife to fear for her
1:11:37
safety.
1:11:37
Unsurprisingly the affidavit is now public.
1:11:40
NPR Congressional Correspondent Deirdre Walsh is among reporters
1:11:42
who obtained copies.
1:11:43
Deirdre, good morning.
1:11:44
Good morning, Steve.
1:11:45
Okay, so what in this document adds to
1:11:47
what was already known?
1:11:49
This is an on-the-record signed sworn
1:11:51
statement from Hegseth's former sister-in-law.
1:11:53
As you noted Danielle Hegseth, she was married
1:11:56
to his brother Nathaniel.
1:11:58
And she states that she was asked to
1:12:00
provide the statement by the top Democrat on
1:12:02
the panel Jack Reed.
1:12:03
Senator Reed told me last night he made
1:12:05
the request for the details because he didn't
1:12:07
think the FBI background check on Hegseth was
1:12:09
adequate.
1:12:11
Danielle Hegseth says in her personal opinion, Pete
1:12:14
Hegseth is quote, unfit for the job.
1:12:16
She says her former sister-in-law Samantha,
1:12:19
Hegseth's second wife who he divorced, feared for
1:12:21
her personal safety during their marriage.
1:12:23
She often hid in a closet.
1:12:25
She said Samantha had a plan about texting
1:12:28
her a safe word or code word that
1:12:30
meant she wanted someone to fly to Minnesota
1:12:32
to help her.
1:12:33
Danielle Hegseth also said she personally witnessed Hegseth
1:12:36
intoxicated, yelling in her face.
1:12:39
She told the FBI that Hegseth abused alcohol
1:12:42
numerous times over the years, to the point
1:12:44
of actually passing out during a holiday gathering.
1:12:47
Well, what does Hegseth say about all that?
1:12:49
Well, NPR reached out to his attorney, Tim
1:12:51
Parlatori He has not responded.
1:12:54
But Parlatori told NBC, which first reported on
1:12:56
this affidavit, that Samantha Hegseth, this ex-wife
1:13:00
never alleged any abuse and actually signed court
1:13:03
documents acknowledging there was no abuse.
1:13:06
And she affirmed that as part of Hegseth's
1:13:08
background check.
1:13:09
I see a book deal coming.
1:13:12
I see a book deal.
1:13:14
Let's play this part two, and then I
1:13:16
can tell you some other details.
1:13:18
He maintained, Parlatori, that Danielle was, quote, an
1:13:20
anti-Trump far-left Democrat who was divorced
1:13:23
from Hegseth's brother and never got along with
1:13:25
the family.
1:13:26
He said she has an axe to grind.
1:13:28
In Samantha Hegseth's case, she told NBC in
1:13:31
a statement there was no physical abuse.
1:13:33
She wasn't going to comment on her marriage,
1:13:35
and she didn't have representatives speaking on her
1:13:37
behalf.
1:13:39
It's worth noting that during the public confirmation
1:13:41
hearing, Pete Hegseth was pressed about previous allegations
1:13:44
about excessive drinking, inappropriate behavior, which he denied.
1:13:48
In a broad sense, said they were anonymous
1:13:50
allegations and so forth.
1:13:52
I guess the key question here involves Republican
1:13:54
senators.
1:13:56
How are they responding to this?
1:13:58
You know, they're standing behind him.
1:13:59
I spoke with several last night after this
1:14:01
affidavit became public.
1:14:03
Most said they hadn't read the document, but
1:14:05
they questioned the timing, the motivation.
1:14:08
Hegseth's nomination is on track for a full
1:14:10
Senate vote later this week or over the
1:14:12
weekend at the latest.
1:14:14
I talked to Armed Services Chairman Roger Wicker.
1:14:16
He told reporters he had grave doubts about
1:14:19
Danielle Hegseth's account in the affidavit, but he
1:14:22
also admitted he hadn't read it.
1:14:24
He said he was planning to review it,
1:14:25
but he dismissed it as political.
1:14:28
So far, no Senate Republican has publicly said
1:14:30
they're going to oppose Pete Hegseth's nomination with
1:14:33
the 53-seat majority.
1:14:34
He could lose three Republican votes and still
1:14:36
get confirmed.
1:14:37
He's not likely to get any support from
1:14:39
Democrats, but he's not going to need them.
1:14:41
Right now, he has the votes.
1:14:43
So now you're going to smear this woman.
1:14:45
So here's the thing.
1:14:47
Why is this report even...
1:14:49
This is a smear report on the part
1:14:51
of NPR just to throw these details out
1:14:53
there about this crazy Danielle girl who's just
1:14:57
nuts, obviously.
1:14:58
And this is the same kind of bullcrap
1:15:00
where somebody reached out to her from the
1:15:03
Democrat Party saying, can you give us some
1:15:05
dirt?
1:15:06
Here's something.
1:15:06
Why don't you sign this?
1:15:08
Yeah, like the booth lady.
1:15:10
Yeah, exactly.
1:15:11
And it's just this kind of thing.
1:15:13
To report on this as though there's even
1:15:16
any hint that is possibly legit is irresponsible.
1:15:22
And NPR does this constantly.
1:15:24
Hold on.
1:15:25
We've cracked the code.
1:15:26
It wasn't NPR.
1:15:27
NBX is clearly NBC.
1:15:31
If you look at the keyboard.
1:15:37
Well...
1:15:38
Okay.
1:15:39
This is an NPR report about the NBC
1:15:43
report.
1:15:43
Ah, okay.
1:15:44
I'm with you.
1:15:45
I'm with you.
1:15:45
Got it.
1:15:46
Because those are the two NPR people.
1:15:47
I'm still going to call NPR NBX.
1:15:50
NBC...
1:15:51
They got the information from NBC and turned
1:15:54
it into a smear.
1:15:55
And NBC, of course, is another one that's
1:15:57
just another bad actor that they would be
1:15:59
the ones to do this to begin with.
1:16:01
Well, I'm glad you brought that up.
1:16:04
Because I have...
1:16:06
What do I have here?
1:16:08
I have NBC.
1:16:09
I have an NBC report from your girl.
1:16:12
Yummy?
1:16:14
Oh, my God.
1:16:15
I saw this.
1:16:16
I wish I had clipped it.
1:16:18
She's lost it.
1:16:20
Also this morning, President Trump is celebrating a
1:16:22
razor-thin victory.
1:16:23
His controversial pick to head up the Defense
1:16:26
Department, Pete Hegseth, has been confirmed thanks to
1:16:29
a late-night rare tie-breaking vote by
1:16:31
his vice president, J.D. Vance.
1:16:33
NBC White House correspondent Yamiche Alcindor...
1:16:35
Wait.
1:16:35
Hold on a second.
1:16:36
Stop the clip.
1:16:38
They've been in office for what?
1:16:39
Four or five days and this is now
1:16:41
a rare vote?
1:16:43
Well, okay.
1:16:44
So I happen to know what this is.
1:16:47
Only one other time has an appointee been
1:16:53
a tie-breaker and that was in 2017
1:16:56
and that was some woman I forget that
1:16:58
Trump nominated.
1:17:00
So a tie-breaker is not rare, but
1:17:03
they make it sound like this is just
1:17:04
crazy rare and it's too bad J.D.
1:17:08
Vance is there.
1:17:09
Kamala Harris would have voted.
1:17:10
I don't know what it is.
1:17:11
Let's get to Yamiche.
1:17:13
...is in Las Vegas traveling with President Trump.
1:17:15
Yamiche, good morning.
1:17:17
Good morning.
1:17:18
Last night the Senate narrowly voted to confirm
1:17:20
Pete Hegseth as the new Defense Secretary.
1:17:22
Vice President J.D. Vance had to cast
1:17:24
a tie-breaking vote when lawmakers deadlocked 50
1:17:27
to 50.
1:17:28
It was only the second time in history
1:17:30
a Cabinet vote needed a tie-breaker.
1:17:32
See, that's a lie.
1:17:36
It's not the first time the Cabinet has
1:17:38
ever had a tie-breaker.
1:17:38
Well, I guess if you call it Cabinet.
1:17:40
Maybe she's right.
1:17:41
But she kind of makes it sound when
1:17:43
she talks like this.
1:17:45
No, she's in tears.
1:17:47
It seems to come over the reports recently
1:17:48
that this woman's lost it.
1:17:51
50.
1:17:52
It was only the second time in history
1:17:53
a Cabinet vote needed a tie-breaker.
1:17:55
What?
1:17:56
She said second time.
1:17:58
Yeah, second time Cabinet vote.
1:18:00
So she's correct.
1:18:01
Vance stepped in after former Senate Majority Leader
1:18:04
Mitch McConnell Vance stepped in.
1:18:08
He's like, oh, I'm J.D. Vance.
1:18:10
I'm here to stop the proceedings.
1:18:12
Vance stepped in after former Senate Majority Leader
1:18:15
Mitch McConnell and two other Republican Senators, Lisa
1:18:17
Murkowski and Susan Collins joined all Democrats in
1:18:20
voting against the nomination.
1:18:22
Hex has got the job despite a number
1:18:25
of controversies including allegations of alcohol abuse, domestic
1:18:28
violence, a sexual assault, and the financial mismanagement
1:18:31
of organizations that he led.
1:18:34
But wait, there's much more to come.
1:18:37
Yamiche will be breaking, breaking all over the
1:18:39
place with the coming nominees.
1:18:40
President Trump has a number of other nominees
1:18:42
that still need to make it through the
1:18:43
Senate with hearings for RFK Jr., Kash Patel,
1:18:46
and Tulsi Gabbard set for next week.
1:18:49
Gabbard, Trump's pick for Director of National Intelligence
1:18:52
has possibly the toughest road ahead.
1:18:54
She has never worked in the intelligence world
1:18:56
and has been accused of amplifying Russian propaganda.
1:19:00
Gabbard has denied the claims.
1:19:02
C-SPAN is going to be on fire
1:19:04
this week.
1:19:06
Russia and Europe, you coddle up to dictators
1:19:11
like Assad.
1:19:16
It's amazing.
1:19:17
It's amazing.
1:19:17
Well, I think the hearing's going to be
1:19:19
dynamite with her because she's going to throw
1:19:21
it back.
1:19:22
Talking about J.D. Vance, that's the bonus
1:19:24
clip we might as well play.
1:19:25
This is J.D. Vance, I think it's
1:19:26
this morning, a recent clip of him on
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I guess it's Face the Nation with Margaret
1:19:34
Brennan who's jumping all over him on these
1:19:37
immigrants.
1:19:40
This is one of those moments where you
1:19:41
say, well, you know, this guy could have
1:19:43
been a little harsher.
1:19:44
If we play this clip, I'm going to
1:19:48
coach everyone how to be a little harsher
1:19:50
with this.
1:19:51
When you talked to us in August, you
1:19:53
said, I don't think we should abandon anybody
1:19:55
who's been properly vetted and helped us.
1:19:57
Do you stand by that?
1:19:58
Well, Margaret, I don't agree that all these
1:20:00
immigrants or all these refugees have been properly
1:20:02
vetted.
1:20:02
In fact, we know that there are cases
1:20:04
of people who allegedly were properly vetted and
1:20:08
then were literally planning terrorist attacks on our
1:20:10
country.
1:20:10
That happened during the campaign, if you may
1:20:12
remember.
1:20:13
So clearly not all of these foreign nationals
1:20:15
have been properly vetted.
1:20:15
But there are 30,000 people in the
1:20:16
pipeline, Afghan refugees.
1:20:18
But my primary concern as the Vice President,
1:20:21
Margaret, is to look after the American people.
1:20:23
And now that we know that we have
1:20:25
vetting problems with a lot of these refugee
1:20:26
programs, we absolutely cannot unleash thousands of unvetted
1:20:31
people into our country.
1:20:32
These people are vetted.
1:20:34
Just like the guy who planned a terrorist
1:20:36
attack in Oklahoma a few months ago, he
1:20:37
was allegedly properly vetted.
1:20:39
And many people in the media and the
1:20:41
Democratic Party said that he was properly vetted.
1:20:43
Clearly he wasn't.
1:20:44
I don't want my children to share a
1:20:47
neighborhood with people who are not properly vetted.
1:20:49
And because I don't want it for my
1:20:50
kids, I'm not going to force any other
1:20:52
American citizen's kids to do that either.
1:20:54
No, and that was a very particular case.
1:20:56
It wasn't clear if he was radicalized when
1:20:57
he got here or while he was living
1:21:00
there.
1:21:00
I don't really care, Margaret.
1:21:01
I don't want that person in my country,
1:21:03
and I think most Americans agree with me.
1:21:05
We'll be back in one minute with more
1:21:07
of our interview with Vice President Banz.
1:21:09
Thanks for leaving that in.
1:21:11
So yeah, I left that in.
1:21:13
So the thing that she said was well,
1:21:18
and by the way he does a good
1:21:19
job of conflating the Democrat Party and the
1:21:23
media.
1:21:23
He does that pretty slickly that nobody notices.
1:21:26
She could have called him out on that.
1:21:28
But he could have called her out when
1:21:29
she said, well, we don't know whether this
1:21:32
guy was radicalized over there or when he
1:21:36
came over here.
1:21:37
And so the comeback to that would have
1:21:40
been, Martha, are you telling me that living
1:21:43
all those years in Afghanistan would have no
1:21:45
effect on his personality?
1:21:46
And then when he comes into the United
1:21:48
States of America, here he gets radicalized to
1:21:52
become a terrorist?
1:21:53
Is that what you're saying?
1:21:54
Is that what you're trying to tell me?
1:21:56
And that would have turned the table.
1:21:58
She would have not been able to deal
1:22:00
with that.
1:22:00
But he's a nice guy.
1:22:02
He's trying to be a nice guy.
1:22:04
Well, he can be pretty sharp.
1:22:08
He's a nice guy.
1:22:08
I think he missed an opportunity to throw
1:22:11
it at her.
1:22:12
Yeah.
1:22:14
He's already Vice President.
1:22:15
He's laughing.
1:22:16
He's like, I'm Vice President.
1:22:17
I don't care what you say.
1:22:18
Well, I'd like to have seen it.
1:22:20
I have a couple of quickies here as
1:22:23
President Trump has been doing all kinds of
1:22:25
interesting stuff.
1:22:26
Of course, we talked about some of this
1:22:28
on Thursday, but these are all for short,
1:22:29
less than half a minute.
1:22:30
Next tonight, President Trump has revoked the security
1:22:33
detail assigned to Dr. Anthony Fauci, according to
1:22:35
sources.
1:22:36
Dr. Fauci was the President's top COVID advisor
1:22:39
during his first term and has faced regular
1:22:41
threats on his life for years.
1:22:43
Trump has also revoked security for three other
1:22:46
former advisors who faced threats from Iran.
1:22:49
In North Carolina today, Trump said they all
1:22:52
have made a lot of money.
1:22:53
They can hire their own security, too.
1:22:56
Then, this has got to be my favorite,
1:22:58
because it is the season of reveal.
1:23:02
Lastly, sir, we have an executive order ordering
1:23:05
the declassification of files relating to the assassinations
1:23:09
of President John F.
1:23:10
Kennedy, Senator Robert F.
1:23:12
Kennedy, and Reverend Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.
1:23:15
That's a big one, huh?
1:23:17
A lot of people are waiting for this
1:23:19
for a long few years.
1:23:21
For decades.
1:23:28
Everything will be revealed.
1:23:32
I know you totally played that clip.
1:23:34
You know it.
1:23:36
Everything will be revealed.
1:23:37
I had that clip.
1:23:39
I was saying, I'm not putting this clip
1:23:40
out there.
1:23:41
It's the year of reveal or some horseshit.
1:23:44
Season of reveal.
1:23:46
This is another promise made and kept.
1:23:50
Season.
1:23:51
This is an important one for the black
1:23:53
voters, because that's what this was all about.
1:23:56
The administration has withdrawn a proposed rule that
1:23:58
would ban menthol cigarettes and flavored cigars.
1:24:02
A menthol ban had been a top priority
1:24:04
for the U.S. Food and Drug Administration
1:24:06
when former President Joe Biden was in office.
1:24:08
However, the Biden administration never gave the ban
1:24:11
the green light amid lobbying from stakeholder groups.
1:24:14
Menthol will stay!
1:24:16
Menthol cigarettes.
1:24:18
Very important.
1:24:19
MASA.
1:24:20
Make America smoke again.
1:24:21
It's good.
1:24:22
We're rocking and rolling.
1:24:24
So there used to be a product that
1:24:27
you could get.
1:24:27
People don't know this.
1:24:29
I see most of our audience.
1:24:31
The elders do.
1:24:33
The elders?
1:24:34
The elders.
1:24:36
You used to be able to buy these
1:24:38
little wooden pegs.
1:24:41
Very small little thing.
1:24:42
You'd stick it in the end of a
1:24:44
cigar.
1:24:45
And it would blow up.
1:24:47
And it would blow up.
1:24:50
I remember those.
1:24:51
You could stick it in.
1:24:52
Whatever happened to the exploding cigar?
1:24:54
They were great.
1:24:55
It was like a little match.
1:24:58
And you stuck it.
1:24:59
I did that to my mom and my
1:25:01
dad and they hated it.
1:25:01
Oh you did?
1:25:02
You would?
1:25:03
Oh yeah, definitely.
1:25:04
And they'd light it up and after about
1:25:06
three puffs, it wasn't really an explosion.
1:25:10
But it was funny.
1:25:12
It was kind of an explosion.
1:25:14
Like a small miniature firecracker.
1:25:16
I'd blow the end off the thing.
1:25:18
Yeah, sometimes you're like a smokestack.
1:25:20
It would go pow like that.
1:25:22
Like when it was exploded.
1:25:23
I remember, oh man, my mom, rest in
1:25:26
peace mom.
1:25:27
That was funny.
1:25:28
Those days were good.
1:25:29
My dad probably egged me on.
1:25:30
You know your mom smoked cigars, but okay.
1:25:32
She wore army boots too.
1:25:34
Cute winter boots.
1:25:37
Since it was discussed, here's the minute clip
1:25:40
of President Trump talking about FEMA.
1:25:43
I'll also be signing an executive order to
1:25:45
begin the process of fundamentally reforming and overhauling
1:25:49
FEMA or maybe getting rid of FEMA.
1:25:51
I think, frankly, FEMA's not good.
1:25:53
I think when you have a problem like
1:25:56
this, I think you want to go and
1:25:58
whether it's a Democrat or Republican governor, you
1:26:01
want to use your state to fix it
1:26:03
and not waste time calling FEMA and then
1:26:05
FEMA gets here and they don't know the
1:26:07
area, they've never been to the area and
1:26:09
they want to give you rules that you've
1:26:11
never heard about.
1:26:12
They want to bring people that aren't as
1:26:14
good as the people you already have and
1:26:17
FEMA's turned out to be a disaster.
1:26:19
And you could go back a long way.
1:26:21
You could go back to Louisiana.
1:26:24
You could go back to some of the
1:26:25
things that took place in Texas.
1:26:26
It turns out to be the state that
1:26:29
ends up doing the work.
1:26:30
It just complicates it.
1:26:31
I think we're going to recommend that FEMA
1:26:32
go away and we pay directly.
1:26:35
We pay a percentage to the state.
1:26:37
But the state should fix this.
1:26:38
If the state did this from the beginning
1:26:41
it would have been a lot better situation.
1:26:42
I think you guys agree with that.
1:26:44
What are we going to call the FEMA
1:26:46
camps?
1:26:47
We can't call them FEMA camps anymore.
1:26:49
And what FEMA region will I live in?
1:26:52
I'm in FEMA region number six.
1:26:54
You're at a crossroads here.
1:26:57
This is going to change the show.
1:26:59
Everyone knows the FEMA region they're in.
1:27:01
What's your FEMA region?
1:27:03
Six.
1:27:04
No, I'm in six.
1:27:05
Are you also?
1:27:05
You can't be in six.
1:27:06
I'm in nine.
1:27:07
You can't be in six.
1:27:09
Everybody knows their FEMA region.
1:27:11
I don't know.
1:27:13
It's probably a good idea.
1:27:15
It's very expensive, the FEMA.
1:27:17
It's a horrible operation.
1:27:21
Brownie.
1:27:22
Good job, Brownie.
1:27:24
So then there was the President Trump in
1:27:27
Los Angeles with the First Lady, man.
1:27:30
She's great.