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Hey man, tell Joe, tell Joe, tell Joe!
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Adam Curry, John C.
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Dvorak.
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This Wednesday, January 30th, 2025, this is your
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award-winning give-on-Asian-media-assassination episode
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1734.
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This is no agenda.
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Parsing the prescriptives and broadcasting live from the
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heart of the Texas Hill Country right here
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in FEMA Region No.
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6.
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In the morning, everybody.
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I'm Adam Curry.
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And from Northern Silicon Valley, where I've determined
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that Vogue magazine is an outlet of the
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American Communist Party.
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I'm John C.
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Dvorak.
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In the morning.
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What magazine now?
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Vogue.
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Oh, Vogue?
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Vogue is a commie rag?
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Is that what you're saying?
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Well, I, you didn't, you know, when they
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did this slam of poor Melania Trump's official
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portrait.
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Oh, have they done that again?
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Did they publish it?
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Last time they said she looks like a
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freelance magician with that outfit on.
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That's a good line.
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It's funny.
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But, but then it harkens back to the
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Teen Vogue article on Marxism.
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But this is about three or four years
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ago.
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We talked about it on the show.
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They did not only an article on like
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how Marxism works, but they were advocating for
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it.
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Wow.
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For Teen, in Teen Vogue.
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Oh, no, Teen Vogue is a complete Marxist
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magazine.
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But Teen Vogue is part of Vogue.
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And the whole operation is run by Advanced
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Publications, which bought Condé Nast some years ago.
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And I think they're now suspect.
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Oh, totally.
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My, my youngest stepdaughter sometimes does production for
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some of their shoots.
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Totally, totally Marxist.
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Which is fine.
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That's fine.
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Yeah, but I think people should know.
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Before the show started, we were discussing the
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origin of mind your P's and Q's.
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As I said to John, I think you
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should mind your P's and Q's, son.
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Yes, and I was condemning him for drinking
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too much coffee in the morning.
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Mind your P's and Q's is an English
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language expression meaning mind your manners, mind your
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language, be on your best behavior, or watch
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what you're doing.
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Yeah.
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One explanation favored in Letters to the Editors
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of Notes and Queries, dated from 1851, is
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a literal interpretation of the saying regarding possible
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confusion between the lowercase letters P and Q
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in schoolwork or typesetting.
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So you were right.
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You were very close to being correct.
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I was correct.
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Story of your life.
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Story of your life.
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Very close to being correct.
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Very close.
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I was close enough is the way it
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goes.
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Close enough.
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Unlike the close enough mishap that took place,
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which you have to discuss.
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I do.
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And it's always interesting how it went really
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fast this time.
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Like, oh, it was remote control.
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Oh, come on.
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The stuff that came in is ridiculous.
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It is.
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And there's two things that bother me.
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One is the lack of information, of which,
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of course, there's not going to be that
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much.
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The second one was the fact that it
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took up all the airwaves on all the
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networks for hours on end, and there was
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nothing to show or see except the one
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little looped video plus a million.
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I don't know how many police there are
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in that area, but there must be 10
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,000.
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And they just kept showing this one shot,
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and they had nothing to talk about.
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Why do they do this?
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What is the point?
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Oh, I can answer that question.
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Many of these news models are in Washington,
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D.C., or commute into Washington, D.C.,
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have been in Washington, D.C., regularly to
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get their marching orders, to talk to their
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inside sources and people familiar with the president's
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thinking.
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And they love this airport.
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So they're like, oh, man, that could have
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been me.
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Let's do some more story on it.
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It's all about them.
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Well, that actually brought Swalwell on, of all
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people from California.
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But he flew in like two or three
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planes before the crash.
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And it was the same thing.
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It could have been me.
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Yeah, of course.
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As always, it could have been me.
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Well, that's how it works with air disasters.
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Of course, everyone knows it could have been
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me.
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I am somewhat uniquely qualified because I am
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both a helicopter pilot and a fixed-wing
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pilot.
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And this seems quite obvious to me what
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happened here.
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This is actually Sky News, I think, in
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Australia.
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This guy came pretty close to what was
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going on, I think.
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I understand, though.
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Very shortly before this accident, the aircraft in
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question, the Bombardier CR7, was actually cleared, asked
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to operate off a shorter runway, runway 33.
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So the fact that they changed the runways,
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I mean, that presumably is relatively common, is
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it not?
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It is relatively common.
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The challenge, though, of course, is that it
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means for aircraft departing, that's fine.
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But for an aircraft that's already set up
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to land on a main runway, he's now
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got to fly an S-curve to actually
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reposition himself to come on a straight approach
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down on runway 33.
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That means that he's actually in a different
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position.
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He's now over the Potomac.
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Why is this important?
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Because for the military helicopter pilot, his brain,
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which they call situational awareness, but you've got
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a brain map of where everything is, you'll
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have assumed everything is on approach to the
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main runway or departing the main runway.
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You won't have factored in.
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This one aircraft that's now coming in, doing
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a descent over the Potomac.
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He's pretty close.
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It is a situational awareness issue.
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And this is a known procedure to divert
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because it's a very busy airspace.
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Probably too busy because everyone loves it so
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much and want to go into DCA instead
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of the alternative.
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It's just closer.
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Well, yeah, the big difference is about an
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hour because DCA is right downtown and Dulles
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is a million miles away.
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Yeah.
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It's like Midway and O'Hare.
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So, the military are on a different frequency.
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So, he wasn't necessarily monitoring what was going,
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the pilot.
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And this was an annual, well, they call
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it a re-inspection flight, which is kind
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of an, all pilots go through it, an
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annual inspection.
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You fly with instructors.
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In this case, a crew of three.
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So, they may not have completely been aware
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of the change that was made for that
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flight.
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And having flown at night, and this is
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the same thing with the drones over New
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Jersey.
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It's not easy to see things.
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It's not easy.
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He probably was looking at, or what they
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thought they were looking at was American Airlines
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3130, which was somewhat behind the aircraft that
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got hit.
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And they may have even had all eyes
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inside the cockpit.
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You know, this happens sometimes.
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It just happens where no one is looking
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outside.
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You're doing your procedures.
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You're looking at the instruments.
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It's a night flight.
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The whole point is to, you know, is
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flying at night.
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And it's just not easy to see things.
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And from what I could tell, I actually
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have a little bit of the audio because
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you hear, the tower hears, you can hear
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the collision alert in the tower.
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And it's just seconds before it happens.
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That's the collision alert.
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So, the helicopter says aircraft in sight, visual
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separation.
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He could not have been looking at that.
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And he's looking at it from the side.
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He must have been looking at a different
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aircraft.
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It's so easy when you're, I mean, it's
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happened so often.
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I've even, in the U.K., I was
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setting up for an approach, and it turns
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out I was looking at the wrong airport.
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I mean, at night, things are very different.
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This is why planes sometimes land on the
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taxiway.
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It's just, it's not easy to fly at
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night.
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And then here, of course.
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There it is, boom.
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He says visual, and then just seconds later,
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it crashes right into it.
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But there's nothing more, nothing less than a
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very bad day.
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Now, the president went out and talked to
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the press this morning, and I watched most
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of that.
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He said, we're going to get to the
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bottom of it.
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Mistakes were made.
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I mean, seriously, I think mistakes were made
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because when you have this helicopter at basically
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the same altitude within, you know, 50 feet
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of the incoming regional jet.
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I mean, it would have been very easy
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for the controller to say, okay, I mean,
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you can do a lot with the helicopter.
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You can turn on a dime.
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You can do a lot.
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I don't know exactly how fast they're going,
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but you can do a lot of different
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things.
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And the controller took it for, I'm not
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blaming the controller or anybody really, took for
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granted that when the pilot said visual, that
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he saw it, and that it was visual.
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But they were already kind of, I mean,
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you know, when you, when you're flying and
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you see another plane, you know that you're
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on a collision course when it looks like
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the other plane is not moving.
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So, and that's what you train for.
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It's like, I'm looking at this aircraft.
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It's not moving.
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That means I'm on a direct collision course
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with it, if you're at the same altitude.
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So, they just didn't see it.
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And then there's all this talk of night
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vision goggles.
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You know, you're not going to, it's going
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to be even worse with night vision goggles,
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all those lights of DC.
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That's going to bleed everything out.
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So, it's just a horrible situation.
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And it's maybe not even necessarily anybody's fault
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other than, you know, President Trump took it
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to DEI.
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He actually went there.
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Yeah, you know, that was going to be
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expected.
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Yeah.
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And he was, it was a light touch
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on it.
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But, so, this is just a bad day.
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And, you know, stuff happens.
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Lots of people die in traffic accidents all
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day long.
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30,000 a year.
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Yeah.
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You don't hear about it.
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And this is just, it's a crappy one
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because people fly and everyone feels that pain.
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So, but the conspiracy, oh, it was runway
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33.
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Do you know how many runway 33's there
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are?
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It's a very typical runway heading.
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So, no conspiracy, just a bad day.
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Well, here's something for you to do.
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Explain why.
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There's not 33 runways at DCA.
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There's not.
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There's about four.
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No, that's a compass direction.
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33 degrees?
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Yes, 33.
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Well, 330 degrees, yes.
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So, when you hear runway one, that's basically
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10.
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So, 10 degrees.
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It'll be the, or 100 degrees.
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It'll be the exact opposite of the 33.
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No, I'm sorry.
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That's not true.
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I mean, so the typical headings you have
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on runways will be 27, 22, 33.
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It all has to do with the typical
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wind direction that is, that happens at that
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particular airfield.
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And there's a lot of 33 runway headings.
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So, you know, but then it's like, oh,
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33 runway heading and three people on the
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plane.
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Oh, yeah.
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Clearly remote control to kill who was on
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the plane.
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Well, it's sadly a bunch of figure skaters.
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Yeah, that was kind of tragic.
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It's always tragic.
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These things are always tragic.
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And what was on a continuity of government
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flight?
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It was a training flight.
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Wow.
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No, there's been a lot of this sort
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of thing.
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It's annoying.
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I find it annoying.
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It's to be expected.
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It's to be expected.
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But it's just bad.
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It's just a bad day.
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And then the social media, there's a whole
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line of tweets I ran into with these
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guys carping at each other.
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I'm a chopper pilot from the Vietnam War
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and blah, blah, blah.
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Oh, no, you're full of shit.
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You can't turn that thing off.
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You can't turn off the transponder.
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Yeah, you can.
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No, you can't.
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And it just goes on forever.
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I will mention that.
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So you have something called TCAS, Traffic Collision
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Alert System.
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And it's pretty much useless below 1,000
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feet because it's going to be going off
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all the time.
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And it also doesn't give a – below
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1,000 feet, it's not going to tell
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you to go up or go down.
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It's just going to say traffic, traffic.
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And in busy airspace, you'll hear that thing
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a lot because it's thousands of feet separation.
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So you're just going to hear this.
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And you just want to hope that no
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one's on the same – at the same
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altitude.
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But this, again, it's military and civilian sharing
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the same airspace, different frequencies, bad day.
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Day wrecker for everybody.
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That's it.
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There's nothing more to give you on that.
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And there will be a report, and we'll
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hear something, and I'm sure somebody will give
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it.
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Everyone got to get up and speak.
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You know, this was the first time for
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Pete Hegseth to speak.
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J.D. Vance, our vice president, came out
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and spoke.
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Everybody was all in on this because it
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was bad.
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And, of course, you want to keep the
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– I'll just be cynical about it.
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You want to keep the attention away from
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the televised hearings, which is what it definitely
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did, which – I don't even know if
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anyone cares about these anymore.
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They're so performative and everybody trying to get
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their sound bite in.
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And, you know, it's a yes or no
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question.
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I love the yes or no thing.
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It's just – I'll take that as a
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no.
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Yeah.
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I'll take that as a yes.
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It really doesn't work anymore as far as
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I'm concerned.
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It just doesn't work.
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Yeah, but I think it does work.
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For who?
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We've been watching this yes or no thing.
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It works for the guy who's running for
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re-election.
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Yeah, okay.
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Good point.
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It's not working for the hearings because everyone
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knows they're all full of crap.
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And, in fact, Kennedy himself – I have
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a bunch of Kennedy clips, obviously.
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Yeah, that's good.
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And Kennedy himself – I don't have this
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clip, but he says, you know, you guys
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used to all be my friends, all you
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Democrats.
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And I know what you're doing.
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And it's like this is what you have
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to do.
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And he goes on and on.
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Because he does.
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He's not an idiot.
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But to listen to these guys widen –
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and then the thing that I like the
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most is that every one of these guys
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who slammed on Kennedy – because there's a
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real strong movement to get him in here.
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All these TikTokers and Twitters and Tweeters and
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all the rest of them are coming out
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with, well, I can see why Elizabeth Warren
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didn't.
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She took $1.2 million from Big Pharma,
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$1.1 million from her, this and that,
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and they're just going after these people.
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Well, I just wanted to say on Elizabeth
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Warren, we know from firsthand sources that she
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took significant amounts of money from Bose to
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get this hearing aid scam.
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Right, the hearing aid thing.
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This is one of your pet peeves.
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Well, it is because Bose – and by
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the way, it failed for them – but
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Bose had hearing devices which you can get
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over the counter.
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And they were called amplifiers or hearing –
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no, I think it was hearing amplifiers.
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Enhancers, I think.
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They couldn't call it hearing aids.
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She took the money, and she got everyone
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together, and then Apple was a part of
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this too.
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So they could call either their software or
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their hardware devices.
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They could call them hearing aids, and you
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can get them without assistance from an audiologist,
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which is just – it's stupid.
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If you really care, if you're going deaf
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because you've been – if you don't care
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about your hearing, just want to amp it
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up and you don't want to hear Fidelity
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and be able to fine-tune it, okay,
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don't go to an audiologist.
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But from my own personal experience, having an
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audiologist is a good thing.
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Because you may not know exactly what you
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should be hearing, and these devices that shoot
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tones into your ear, and then AI discovers
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the exact frequency.
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No, no, it's just not true.
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It's like glasses.
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You have to have the guy going, okay,
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how about this?
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How about that?
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And you're going, I don't know.
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Go back again.
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That's just how it is.
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A or B.
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A, back again.
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A or B.
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This one or that one.
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Okay.
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Let's try this.
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Oh, you can't see at all?
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No.
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Okay.
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Okay, how about now?
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It's just – that is how you –
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it's not an exact science.
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So she took money for that.
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There's a whole – No, she is a
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corrupt woman.
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Yeah.
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I mean – And she is like –
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it's an embarrassment.
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And – but Wyden was even worse.
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I mean he's opened it up with a
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real – let me play a clip.
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Let me see.
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I think I have the list, I think.
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I got the list of a lot of
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these people and what they took from Big
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Pharma.
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And you're right.
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Now that we all know how it works
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and I think a lot of people –
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and you're right.
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This is where social media of course does
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a reasonably good job of saying, hey, this
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guy is defending this or this lady is
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defending this because this is who they represent.
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They don't represent people.
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They represent big interests, pharmaceutical interests being one
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of them.
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And this is what D.C. is full
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of, is dinners and lunches and hangouts.
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And I think a lot of them believe
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it.
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I mean graft.
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Let's use the right word.
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Graft or grift.
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Which one is it?
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Graft.
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Yeah.
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And I think a lot of people believe
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it.
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Here's the 40 studies that say that –
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who was that horrible witch woman?
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No, no.
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It was some woman.
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Oh, Smith?
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No, no.
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It was about – I don't even remember
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what it was about.
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They just brought up – it was like
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bring your kitchen sink and dump it on
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Kennedy's head because this is going to be
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fun, people.
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That's what it was.
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All right.
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Why don't you go ahead and start with
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some of these because we might as well
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get some of them out of the way.
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Yeah, and I do want to say I
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don't have the clip and you might –
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I don't know if you have it or
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not.
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I have a couple.
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I know, but do you have the clip
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of Shanahan?
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No, don't have Shanahan.
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What was – I missed the Shanahan.
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Shanahan, the vice president for Kennedy's campaign, the
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billionaire girl.
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Yeah, yes.
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She came – I got to get this
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clip.
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Maybe I'll run it on Sunday.
19:04
She threatened, literally threatened everybody who votes no
19:09
on Kennedy with – she's going to take
19:11
her resources, and she's got plenty of them,
19:14
to go primary these people, and she named
19:18
names.
19:19
Oh, here it is.
19:19
Here it is.
19:20
Yes, please.
19:21
Hey, everyone.
19:22
Tomorrow is a pivotal moment in our nation's
19:24
history.
19:24
At 10 a.m. Eastern time, RFK will
19:26
sit in front of the Senate Finance Committee
19:29
for his confirmation hearing to be our nation's
19:32
next secretary of health and human services.
19:34
I urge everyone to call their U.S.
19:37
senators over the following days and demand they
19:39
vote yes on Bobby's nomination.
19:41
He is more than qualified.
19:43
He's proven, principled, and prepared to lead.
19:46
I'll list – I'll share a list below
19:48
of key senators.
19:50
If they represent your state, they need to
19:52
hear from you.
19:53
If they don't, please call your own senator
19:56
and ask them to vote yes.
19:58
We need as many votes as we can
19:59
get.
20:01
So, this hasn't been widely reported, but in
20:03
2020, I cut large checks to Chuck Schumer
20:06
to help Democrats flip two Senate seats in
20:09
Georgia from red to blue.
20:11
The two candidates I helped elect, Senator Raphael
20:15
Warnock and Senator Jon Ossoff, please know I
20:19
will be watching your votes very closely.
20:22
I will make it my personal mission that
20:24
you lose your seats in the Senate if
20:25
you vote against the future health of America's
20:28
children.
20:29
And more than that, I also want to
20:32
say to Senators Mitch McConnell, Lindsey Graham, Lisa
20:35
Markofsky, Susan Collins, Bill Cassidy, Tom Tillis, James
20:39
Lankford, Cory Booker, John Fetterman, Bernie Sanders, and
20:43
Catherine Cortez Masto, this is a bipartisan message,
20:46
and it comes directly from me.
20:48
While Bobby may be willing to play nice,
20:50
I won't.
20:51
If you vote against him, I will personally
20:53
fund challengers to primary you in your next
20:56
election, and I will enlist hundreds of thousands
20:59
to join me.
21:00
Yes, call me!
21:01
Big Pharma and Big Ag have exploited us
21:03
for far too long.
21:05
It ends now.
21:06
You're either on the side of transparency and
21:08
accountability, or you are standing in the way.
21:11
The choice is yours.
21:12
Please choose wisely.
21:14
I thought this was a bit much.
21:18
Well, that's how it goes, you know.
21:20
It could be going that way because, you
21:23
know, Musk is still irked about his one
21:25
kid transitioning.
21:27
But she took it to the level that
21:29
I've never seen anyone do.
21:30
This is open threats.
21:32
Well, what's wrong with that?
21:34
Well, that's the question.
21:36
I mean, until now, it's always been considered
21:39
bad form.
21:40
I mean, you do what Soros did.
21:42
You create the open society and then go
21:45
behind the...
21:46
No, no, that spell is broken.
21:47
It's long gone.
21:48
It's balls to the wall.
21:50
We're to the mat.
21:50
Have you seen our president?
21:52
No, no, no.
21:53
Hey, hey, you don't want to take these
21:55
people.
21:56
We're sending back tariffs.
21:58
Next week, double tariffs.
21:59
Oh, now you want to do it.
22:01
No, this is just...
22:02
it's threats.
22:03
It's threats.
22:04
This is who we are.
22:05
That's who we are now.
22:09
So we open up with Kennedy and here's
22:11
Wyden.
22:13
This is a very short clip of him.
22:17
He went on for five, six minutes slamming
22:20
Kennedy.
22:21
Now, Wyden, of course, took a lot of
22:22
money from Big Pharma.
22:24
So there's a good reason for him to
22:25
be...
22:26
and he is the co-chairman of the
22:28
finance committee.
22:30
So he got to speak and yak away
22:32
all he wanted.
22:33
And here we...
22:34
this is the best part, I think.
22:35
Committee staff have examined thousands of pages.
22:39
I forgot how he talks.
22:40
That's great.
22:41
Yeah, he talks like a...
22:43
it's not even...
22:44
I don't know how to explain it.
22:46
It's Jason Calacanis.
22:49
Committee staff have examined thousands of pages of
22:53
statements, books and podcast transcripts.
22:57
Podcasts?
22:57
In a review of his record.
22:59
I just need to...
23:00
I just need to stop for a second.
23:01
Podcasts have come quite a way, haven't they,
23:03
John?
23:05
Podcasts have come quite a way.
23:07
They're right in their media now.
23:09
It's mainstream, baby.
23:11
It's mainstream.
23:12
No, it's mainstream.
23:13
Podcasts is...
23:13
It is mainstream.
23:14
Yeah, it is.
23:15
And people joke about...
23:16
I was watching one of these, you know,
23:18
the Fox shows where they talk about, oh,
23:19
I guess she's going to quit.
23:20
Or, you know, they're talking about Acosta for
23:23
one guy who's going to do a podcast.
23:27
And somebody says he's going to do a
23:29
podcast and a person did the joke.
23:31
I've done it a million times, which is,
23:32
well, who isn't?
23:34
Yeah.
23:34
You know, I mean, it's become such a...
23:36
it's like a trope.
23:38
I have thoughts about that for later.
23:40
The receipts show that Mr. Kennedy has embraced
23:44
conspiracy theories, quacks, charlatans, especially when it comes
23:49
to the safety and efficacy of vaccines.
23:53
He has made it his life's work to
23:56
sow doubt and discourage parents from getting their
23:59
kids life-saving vaccines.
24:02
It has been lucrative for him and put
24:05
him on the verge of immense power.
24:08
This is the profile of someone who chases
24:11
money and influence wherever they lead, even if
24:16
that may mean the tragic deaths of children
24:19
and other vulnerable people.
24:21
See, I don't think this works anymore.
24:24
First of all, it's a blatant lie because
24:25
he's been very clear about safe and tested
24:30
vaccines.
24:31
He's been very clear about that.
24:33
And I'm sure that Wyden knows it.
24:35
They keep lying and lying and lying because
24:36
they don't want this guy in.
24:39
No, but the whole world knows, even the...
24:44
I like the way you're so cavalier with
24:47
this statement you just made.
24:49
What?
24:49
The whole world knows what?
24:52
Well, I'm about to finish the statement.
24:53
You interrupted my statement and said I was
24:55
cavalier before I even finished it.
24:57
Because the premise, I'm already disagreeing with whatever
25:00
you're going to say.
25:01
I believe that the entire world knows that
25:05
maybe I'm not.
25:06
Maybe you're right.
25:08
Maybe I'm cavalier.
25:09
A large percentage of the world knows that
25:11
the COVID...
25:12
Uh-oh, you changed it.
25:13
Yes, I said maybe you're right.
25:15
It's OK.
25:15
Would you like a medal, a little star
25:17
on your forehead?
25:17
Yes, I would, actually.
25:18
You're a good doobie.
25:21
A large percentage of the population realizes that
25:25
the vaccine for COVID was not effective.
25:29
It did not prevent transmission.
25:31
It did not prevent you from getting COVID.
25:34
And I think a portion of that knows
25:37
it was probably not safe and effective.
25:39
And they're wondering why they keep getting sick.
25:42
So, you know, people are not all in
25:45
on vaccines anymore.
25:46
And the more people hear about the...
25:49
And I think this is a small percentage
25:51
who realize that in the United States that
25:54
there's immunity.
25:56
As in you can't get sued if your
25:58
product is defective.
26:00
So, this is...
26:01
It's just...
26:02
I don't know how many people are buying
26:05
it.
26:05
But that doesn't matter because it comes down
26:07
to the vote, ultimately.
26:09
No one's going to call up their senator.
26:11
Who does that anymore?
26:12
Can I text him?
26:13
Can I send him a tweet?
26:15
Can I do a TikTok?
26:16
This is passive politics.
26:18
I'm going to get on TikTok.
26:19
I'm going to give Wyden a piece of
26:21
my mind.
26:22
No one cares.
26:23
No one cares.
26:26
All right.
26:27
Back to you, Bob.
26:29
Did you...
26:29
Was that the end of the clip?
26:31
That was...
26:31
Yes.
26:31
And the end of my rant.
26:35
Well...
26:36
Not much of a rant, Curry.
26:38
Whatever.
26:39
Whatever, he says.
26:41
Okay.
26:42
Gloves are off.
26:43
Yeah, I'm like a woman now.
26:44
Gloves are off.
26:48
Okay.
26:48
What would you like to play next?
26:50
I have Kennedy clips.
26:51
I've got a bunch of them here.
26:52
Let's go with...
26:53
One of my favorites was Bennett.
26:54
This Colorado senator comes up and he's another
26:57
stooge.
26:58
And he's the guy who was the most...
27:01
Yes, no.
27:02
Yes, no.
27:03
It's just yes or no.
27:04
It's a yes or no question.
27:05
I take that as a yes.
27:06
Say that it targets black and white people
27:09
but spared Ashkenazi...
27:10
I quoted a study...
27:12
I quoted an NIH study that showed that...
27:15
I take that as a yes.
27:16
I have to move on.
27:17
I have to move on.
27:18
Yeah.
27:19
Did you say that Lyme disease is highly
27:23
likely a materially engineered bioweapon?
27:27
I made sure I put in the highly
27:28
likely.
27:29
Did you say Lyme disease is a highly
27:32
likely militarily engineered bioweapon?
27:36
I probably did say that.
27:37
Did you say that...
27:39
Okay.
27:40
I want all of our colleagues to hear
27:42
it, Mr. Kennedy.
27:43
I want them to hear it.
27:45
You said yes.
27:46
Did you say that exposure to pesticides causes
27:49
children to become transgender?
27:52
No, I never said that.
27:53
Okay.
27:54
I have the record that I'll give to
27:55
the chairman and he can make his judgment
27:57
about what you said.
27:59
Yeah.
28:00
Oh, that's...
28:01
Which is a fungicide, I believe.
28:03
It's not a pesticide that causes the frogs
28:05
to go gay.
28:06
Yeah.
28:06
It's the...
28:07
You know what it's called.
28:08
What's it called?
28:09
You know, it's funny.
28:10
I can't remember because I played a whole
28:11
presentation on this about six years ago.
28:14
You have something to say about me.
28:15
And the professor at Cal who studied this
28:17
to death.
28:20
Yes.
28:21
And it's possible that is part of...
28:24
And this guy is going nuts.
28:26
But the Lyme disease thing, which doesn't crop
28:29
up much, but it does.
28:31
Plum Island.
28:32
That's the Plum Island story in New York.
28:34
Yeah, Plum Island.
28:35
Exactly.
28:36
I'm glad you remembered that.
28:37
Yeah, exactly.
28:37
Yeah, the Plum Island, which is where Lyme
28:39
disease seemed to have originated from.
28:41
Originated from, yeah.
28:42
And it was a military bioweapons lab.
28:47
And all of a sudden, from this area,
28:49
this new disease, Lyme disease, appears.
28:53
And so this...
28:53
Yeah.
28:54
And so this Bennett guy is an asshole,
28:57
typical Colorado guy.
28:59
Well...
29:00
All right.
29:00
Yeah, exactly.
29:01
Colorado.
29:02
I'm sorry.
29:02
Sorry, sorry, Colorado.
29:03
Now, White House was given five minutes, so
29:06
he bitched about that.
29:07
And so he decided not to ask any
29:08
questions, but just reamed Kennedy.
29:11
And I just want to play the beginning
29:13
of how he prefaced this.
29:15
I'm looking for White House.
29:17
It should be Kennedy.
29:19
Oh, I got him.
29:19
I got him.
29:19
I got him.
29:20
Senator Whitehouse.
29:21
Thank you, Chairman.
29:22
Mr. Kennedy, I only have five minutes with
29:26
you.
29:26
So...
29:27
And I've got a lot of experience with
29:29
CMS. So you're just going to have to
29:32
listen.
29:33
Now, this is another thing.
29:34
People are no longer interested in your soundbites
29:39
and your, I only have five minutes.
29:41
People have become used to the Joe Rogan
29:44
three hours.
29:46
They're like, what is this?
29:48
What is this nonsense?
29:49
Talk.
29:50
Give the guy some time.
29:52
Talk about whatever it is.
29:54
The whole thing is outdated, wrong, antiquated, and
29:58
an arachnonism, and something like that.
30:02
Arachnonism.
30:03
Arachnonism.
30:06
Anachronism.
30:07
Anachronism.
30:08
The word is anachronism.
30:10
The secret word is anachronism.
30:10
I like arachnonism.
30:12
It's like some sort of bug or something.
30:14
The secret word is anachronism.
30:16
Mm-hmm.
30:16
All right.
30:18
So here's Warren.
30:20
She does a two-parter.
30:21
Oh, my favorite.
30:22
She was by far my favorite.
30:23
I only have a couple of parts of
30:24
it.
30:24
I don't believe me.
30:25
I've cut this.
30:26
This is the shortest presentation I could do.
30:30
So she starts off with a softball, and
30:33
this is Warren 1.
30:35
So here's an easy question.
30:38
Will you commit that when you leave this
30:39
job, you will not accept compensation from a
30:42
drug company, a medical device company, a hospital
30:45
system, or a health insurer for at least
30:48
four years, including as a lobbyist or a
30:51
board member?
30:51
Can you just repeat the last part of
30:54
the question?
30:54
Can I commit to what?
30:55
You're not going to take money from drug
30:57
companies in any way, shape, or form.
30:58
Who?
30:59
Me?
31:00
Yes, you.
31:01
Oh.
31:02
I'm happy to commit to that.
31:04
Good.
31:05
That's what I figured.
31:06
I said it's an easy question to start
31:08
with.
31:08
You know what was most offensive about her
31:10
presentation is when she put her fingers together
31:13
like showing money, like her thumb and her
31:15
fingers, getting money, getting money, because that just
31:18
shows you.
31:19
It's her own projection of that.
31:22
Getting money, getting money.
31:23
She and Wyden and a number of other
31:26
of these guys and that other guy screaming
31:28
about yes or no, they were visibly shaking.
31:35
Yes.
31:36
All of them.
31:37
They're so mad because they must have threats.
31:39
Threats.
31:40
Threats on the back side.
31:41
I think they have.
31:42
I believe that might be it.
31:44
They may have threats.
31:45
They were visibly shaking.
31:47
She was just shaking like a leaf.
31:49
Do you think that Shanahan is a threat?
31:51
What do you think about the farmer rep
31:52
who drops by and says, if you don't
31:54
make sure this Kennedy guy doesn't get in,
31:56
if you don't discredit him, I'm going to
31:57
primary you.
31:58
You don't think that conversation happened?
32:02
Yeah, not in public though.
32:04
No.
32:05
I'm sure he has.
32:07
Yeah, of course.
32:09
Well, this is good.
32:10
Let's shake him out.
32:11
Let's smoke him out.
32:12
I don't know.
32:13
It's not good, actually.
32:16
An N can be put to this in
32:19
one quick executive order.
32:22
And what would that order be?
32:24
Television drug advertising.
32:26
It takes the money out of the, it
32:28
takes all these ridiculous profits out of these
32:30
stupid drugs that have all these side effects.
32:32
And it takes the money away from the
32:34
media who's been banking on this drug money
32:38
since day one, since it began and they've
32:41
like kind of leaned on it.
32:42
And that will hurt the media big time.
32:46
I don't think the president has the balls
32:50
to do it because he knows that then
32:53
his entire base will get primaried.
32:57
It will be an all-out war if
33:00
he does that.
33:00
Well, there's going to be an all-out
33:01
war anyway, if Kennedy doesn't get in.
33:04
Now here's where she starts to get mean
33:07
and she starts to go after him because
33:09
he's a lawyer that's been suing pharma companies.
33:12
This is great.
33:12
This is a good clip.
33:14
You could change vaccine labeling.
33:15
You could change vaccine information rules.
33:18
You can change which claims are compensated in
33:22
the vaccine injury compensation program.
33:25
There's a lot of ways that you can
33:27
influence those future lawsuits and pending lawsuits while
33:32
you are secretary of HHS.
33:35
And I'm asking you to commit right now
33:37
that you will not take a financial stake
33:41
in every one of those lawsuits so that
33:44
what you do as secretary will also benefit
33:47
you financially down the line.
33:49
I'll comply with all the ethical guidelines.
33:52
That's not the question.
33:54
You and I, you have said- Senator,
33:57
you're asking me not to pursue vaccine-
33:59
No, I am not.
34:01
Yeah, you are.
34:03
That's exactly what you're doing.
34:05
Look, no one should be fooled here.
34:08
As secretary of HHS, Robert Kennedy will have
34:12
the power to undercut vaccines and vaccine manufacturing
34:17
across our country.
34:19
And for all of his talk about follow
34:21
the science and his promise that he won't
34:24
interfere with those of us who want to
34:26
vaccinate his kids, the bottom line is the
34:29
same.
34:30
Kennedy can kill off access to vaccines and
34:33
make millions of dollars while he does it.
34:37
Kids might die, but Robert Kennedy can keep
34:40
cashing in.
34:41
Oh, man.
34:44
She's just not a good person.
34:47
She's been visibly, and she's visibly shaking.
34:49
I think, you know, your comment that the
34:51
drug company guy, the rep coming by saying
34:54
we're going to primary you if you don't
34:55
get this guy killed, I think is dead
34:58
on.
34:59
Because there's no reason to be this nervous.
35:02
She was shaking when she was condemning him.
35:05
Pretty bad.
35:06
That was really pretty bad.
35:07
So it went back and forth because the
35:09
Republicans were all amenable, and they were happy
35:11
with it, and they think they can get
35:13
the votes, you know, except for the couple
35:16
of them.
35:18
And so Ron Johnson, who is just a
35:22
gentle guy who is really interesting.
35:25
Well, he's held a lot of these side
35:28
room conferences about food.
35:30
Oh, yeah.
35:30
He's the one who does the, right, right.
35:31
He's the one who does those extra ones
35:33
that are in a bunker someplace that puts
35:36
together what looks like a congressional investigation.
35:39
They throw some skirts over some Ikea tables,
35:42
and it's like, all right, you're in the
35:43
Capitol right now.
35:45
Uh-huh.
35:45
Yeah, that guy.
35:46
Yeah.
35:46
So he let Kennedy talk, and these are
35:49
the last two clips, and this is not
35:51
really about the back and forth.
35:52
This is Kennedy giving his side of the
35:55
story.
35:56
And I think if you listen to this,
35:59
it's pretty hard to not want this guy
36:02
in.
36:02
This is Kennedy to Johnson one.
36:04
When I launched my campaign, it was about
36:06
uniting Americans, Democrats and Republicans.
36:09
There's no issue that should unite us more
36:12
than this chronic health epidemic.
36:14
There's no such thing as Republican children or
36:17
Democratic children.
36:18
These are our kids.
36:20
Sixty-six percent of them are damaged.
36:23
I know what a healthy kid looks like
36:25
because I had so many of them in
36:27
my family.
36:28
I didn't know anybody with a food allergy
36:30
growing up, peanut allergy.
36:32
Why do five of my kids have allergies?
36:36
Why are we seeing these explosions in diabetes,
36:39
rheumatoid arthritis, neurological diseases, depression, all these things
36:45
that are related to toxics in the environment?
36:48
Why can't we just agree with each other
36:50
to put differences about so many issues, intractable
36:55
issues aside, and say, we're going to end
36:59
this?
36:59
I don't think anybody is going to be
37:02
able to do this like I have.
37:04
I'm all in with that.
37:06
And it is interesting how there's a decrease
37:09
in people are saying, you know, let's process
37:12
food.
37:13
I mean, the word is seeping out.
37:15
It goes very slow.
37:16
I think it takes years before it goes
37:19
slow.
37:19
Yeah, thanks to McDonald's.
37:21
This has gone faster than most because of,
37:25
you know, no one watches television anymore.
37:27
They're on social media.
37:30
If you look at one video about processed
37:33
food on TikTok, you'll get a thousand of
37:35
them.
37:35
It's interesting.
37:38
It is interesting.
37:39
I have to agree.
37:40
So the second part of this, he goes
37:42
on after another back and forth, and he
37:44
gives this spiel, which to me is the
37:48
kicker.
37:48
This is the reason you want the guy.
37:50
Because of my peculiar experience, because I've litigated
37:54
against these agencies.
37:56
When you litigate against them, you get a
37:57
PhD in corporate capture and how to unravel
38:00
it.
38:01
I've written six books about these agencies.
38:05
I know a lot about them, and I
38:06
know how to fix it.
38:08
And there's nobody who will fix it the
38:11
way that I do because I'm not scared
38:13
of vested interests.
38:14
I don't care.
38:15
I'm not here because I want a position
38:17
or a job.
38:18
I have a very good life and a
38:20
happy family.
38:21
This is something I don't need.
38:23
I want to do this because we're going
38:26
to fix it.
38:27
And the other thing is we are attracting
38:29
now a caliber of people to HHS like
38:33
never before in history.
38:35
And they're entrepreneurs, they're disruptors, they're innovators of
38:39
immense talents that are walking away, many of
38:42
them, from growing concerns.
38:43
They're not coming there for a position.
38:46
They're coming there because they want to save
38:48
our country.
38:49
Yeah.
38:50
Maha.
38:51
Make America healthy again.
38:52
Of course.
38:53
Of course.
38:55
So this vote will be very interesting.
38:57
There's one more hearing today with him, but
38:59
it's not the important hearing.
39:01
The hearing that took place at the Finance
39:02
Committee is, I was told, the hearing that
39:06
really determines whether he's going to go forward.
39:09
And he will because the Republicans are going
39:11
to vote for him.
39:12
And then it goes to the big…
39:13
Are you sure?
39:14
Are you really sure?
39:15
Yeah, I'm pretty sure, yeah, because there's nobody
39:17
on the Finance Committee that is a waffling
39:23
Republican.
39:24
I need to play a few clips here
39:26
before we move off of Kennedy.
39:28
And with this, I will say in 1997
39:30
or 1998, I got a call from Caroline
39:34
Kennedy, and she wanted to meet with me
39:38
because I was doing Internet stuff.
39:41
And so I meet with Caroline Kennedy, and
39:44
she said, well, you know, Tom Brokaw said
39:47
I should talk to you about the Internet.
39:49
And so I spoke about the Internet.
39:51
And she did an invitation to Brokaw when
39:53
she did this?
39:54
No, that was me.
39:55
Tom Brokaw, I want to talk about the
39:58
Internet.
39:58
Adam Curry.
40:01
And she was like, oh, I want to
40:03
get the Internet for the – I think
40:04
it was for the Kennedy Library or something.
40:07
She was in charge of that.
40:09
And it became very apparent to me.
40:12
She did not give a – not one
40:14
hoot about the Internet.
40:16
She just wanted a press release.
40:17
That's all she cared about.
40:19
She just wanted to have a press release
40:21
saying we're on the information superhighway.
40:24
We're on an onramp to the information superhighway.
40:27
And she just did not care, and then
40:29
she went away, and then nothing ever happened.
40:32
But what she did to Bobby Jr. here
40:37
is pretty – I mean, again, is she
40:41
just looking for a headline?
40:43
Is she looking for – I don't know
40:45
what she's looking for, but this was from
40:48
your family.
40:49
I mean, all of his family are crazy,
40:51
but she just really took it all with
40:54
this.
40:54
And I think she does this for herself.
40:56
She doesn't even do it to save or
40:58
protect anybody.
40:59
She only cares about herself.
41:00
Now that Bobby has been nominated by President
41:03
Trump to be secretary of health and human
41:05
services, a position that would put him in
41:08
charge of the health of the American people,
41:11
I feel an obligation to speak out.
41:14
I've known Bobby my whole life.
41:16
We grew up together.
41:17
It's no surprise that he keeps birds of
41:20
prey as pets because Bobby himself is a
41:23
predator.
41:25
He's always been charismatic, able to attract others
41:28
through the strength of his personality, his willingness
41:31
to take risks and break the rules.
41:34
I watched his younger brothers and cousins follow
41:37
him down the path of drug addiction.
41:40
His basement, his garage, his dorm room were
41:43
always the center of the action, where drugs
41:45
were available, and he enjoyed showing off how
41:48
he put baby chickens and mice in a
41:50
blender to feed to his hawks.
41:52
It was often a perverse scene of despair
41:55
and violence.
41:57
That was a long time ago, and people
41:59
can change.
42:00
Through his own strength and the many second
42:03
chances he was given by people who felt
42:06
sorry for the boy who lost his father,
42:08
Bobby was able to pull himself out of
42:10
illness and disease.
42:12
I admire the discipline that took and the
42:15
continuing commitment it requires.
42:17
However, but siblings and cousins who Bobby encouraged
42:21
down the path of substance abuse suffered addiction,
42:25
illness, and death.
42:27
While Bobby has gone on to misrepresent, lie,
42:31
and cheat his way through life.
42:33
Nice.
42:34
So nice, Caroline.
42:35
Thank you.
42:36
I want to play a couple of clips
42:37
for you.
42:38
She is a horrible person.
42:40
That's what I said.
42:41
Just from a few years being in the
42:43
Biden administration, she was the ambassador to Australia.
42:46
With no credentials for this, by the way,
42:48
that I could tell.
42:49
She doesn't really do anything.
42:50
She's a nude nick.
42:51
Wasn't she also ambassador to Japan for a
42:54
bit there, if I recall?
42:55
I think she might have been.
42:56
Yeah.
42:57
Again, with no credentials, doesn't speak the language,
43:00
etc.
43:01
No, she doesn't.
43:02
But she looks like she's 50 years older.
43:07
Yeah, she does not look 50.
43:09
From just four years ago.
43:10
She looks like Phil Collins.
43:11
That was bad.
43:13
Let's listen to the elite messaging system, which
43:16
is severely broken.
43:17
But here's NBC picking up the ball and
43:20
approaching the obvious attack vector against RFK Jr.
43:24
Tonight, on the eve of Robert F.
43:27
Kennedy Jr.'s Senate confirmation hearing to lead the
43:29
Department of Health and Human Services.
43:32
Bobby himself is a predator.
43:34
Caroline Kennedy is lashing out at her cousin,
43:37
calling him unqualified.
43:38
What?
43:39
Like a Nat Pop.
43:41
Caroline Kennedy is no, she's only good for
43:44
Nat Pops.
43:45
Bobby himself is a predator.
43:46
Caroline Kennedy is lashing out at her cousin,
43:50
calling him unqualified to oversee critical agencies, including
43:53
the FDA and CDC, pointing in part to
43:56
his stance on vaccines.
43:58
Bobby preys on the desperation of parents of
44:01
sick children, vaccinating his own kids, while building
44:05
a following hypocritically discouraging other parents from vaccinating
44:09
theirs.
44:10
Do you have any response to the letter
44:11
released by Caroline Kennedy?
44:14
RFK Jr. ignored NBC News's questions today.
44:17
Ignored it.
44:17
Oh, no, he ignored NBC.
44:20
His cousin's concern is echoed in- How
44:22
dare he ignore the NBC.
44:24
Franklin, Tennessee.
44:25
It's very scary that that person is going
44:27
to be making- Very scary.
44:29
Public health decisions for our family and the
44:32
country as a whole.
44:35
Jen Fisher's 12-year-old son, Raleigh, was
44:37
born with a congenital heart condition that makes
44:40
him more vulnerable to all types of sickness.
44:42
Her fear now made worse, Jen says, by
44:45
growing vaccines- Hold on a second.
44:48
This is the worst reporting I've ever seen
44:50
for a while.
44:51
It's not a report.
44:52
She is hysterical in the reporting, reportage.
44:58
Yes.
44:59
And she's going, she's ratting it off like
45:01
there's nothing going- She's just a maniac,
45:03
this reporter.
45:04
Aaron.
45:04
Aaron McLaughlin.
45:06
This is a terrible product.
45:09
NBC has lost the plot.
45:12
Well, that's why I call it the broken
45:13
elite messaging system.
45:15
All types of sickness.
45:16
Her fear now made worse, Jen says, by
45:19
growing vaccine skepticism within the Franklin community.
45:23
What does that mean for Raleigh?
45:24
It's a scarier thing to send him out
45:26
the door every morning.
45:28
It's cold and flu season.
45:29
There's a lot of illness going around.
45:31
It's a lot of illness going on.
45:33
It's very scary.
45:35
Well, there's a second part to this.
45:36
Here in Tennessee, according to the CDC, more
45:38
and more parents are choosing not to vaccinate
45:41
their children against preventable diseases such as measles
45:44
and whooping cough, a reality Dr. Daniel McGinley
45:47
says he is increasingly confronting in his practice.
45:51
Do you worry that people are going to
45:52
die because of this skepticism?
45:55
Some will.
45:56
You're confident that that is going to happen?
45:58
If these diseases come back, more people will
46:01
die.
46:02
No, no, no, no.
46:03
People will die.
46:04
Vaccine skepticism is growing across 40 states plus
46:05
Washington, D.C. Last school year, the percentage
46:08
of kindergartners exempted from one or more mandatory
46:11
vaccines was the highest ever recorded, fueled by
46:14
online conspiracies and high profile critics of vaccines
46:17
and vaccine mandates, like RFK Jr. There's no
46:22
vaccine that is safe and effective.
46:26
Wow.
46:27
Isn't that a good one?
46:29
Well, that's taken out of context.
46:32
That's what's so good about it.
46:33
This is terrible.
46:34
This is NBC at its worst.
46:36
This is awesome.
46:37
There's no vaccine that is, you know, safe
46:40
and effective.
46:43
Wait, you and pharma advertising, this stops instantly.
46:51
Yeah.
46:53
Yeah.
46:54
Because, yes, you're correct.
46:55
You are correct, sir.
46:57
There's no vaccine that is safe and effective.
47:01
Since his nomination, he said he's not anti
47:03
-vaccine and he won't take them away.
47:06
But parents like Fisher say they'll be watching
47:08
tomorrow's confirmation hearing closely, knowing that for Raleigh
47:12
and children like him, the stakes are high.
47:15
It's life or death for Raleigh.
47:17
The stakes are high.
47:19
We need to go to the other side
47:21
of the messaging system, to CBS.
47:23
We'll bring in Dr. John LaPook.
47:26
LaPook.
47:27
LaPook is here.
47:28
We are joined now by our chief medical
47:30
correspondent.
47:30
I'm sorry, chief medical correspondent, not just the
47:33
doctor.
47:33
He's a chief medical correspondent.
47:36
Makes you sound official.
47:37
He should be wearing a uniform with braids
47:40
and medals and all kinds of stuff.
47:42
We are joined now by our chief medical
47:44
correspondent, Dr. John LaPook.
47:46
John, start our conversation off by telling us
47:48
what RFK Jr. would oversee.
47:50
Massive department.
47:52
Yeah, you're right, John.
47:53
You know, HHS is huge.
47:54
We've put together something I want to show
47:56
you.
47:56
The annual budget is $1.8 trillion.
47:59
That is 26 cents out of every dollar
48:02
that the government spends every year.
48:04
And it oversees 13 federal agencies, including the
48:08
CDC, the FDA, Medicaid, Medicare, and the NIH,
48:11
which oversees a tremendous amount of medical research.
48:14
So this organization really affects almost all of
48:17
us.
48:17
Wasn't Collins the guy who was running it
48:19
before this?
48:21
That kook with his guitar?
48:24
HHS?
48:25
No, no, no, no, no.
48:27
The whole NIH.
48:28
Yeah, HHS.
48:29
I'm sorry.
48:30
No, HHS was Becerra, I think.
48:33
Oh, well, that guy's even worse.
48:35
No, Becerra's got no creds.
48:38
I mean, he's just a California lawyer.
48:41
We continue.
48:42
What would be his powers as he oversees
48:44
all these agencies?
48:45
He would be very powerful.
48:47
You know, tremendous.
48:48
I'll give you an example.
48:49
The CDC has an advisory committee that recommends
48:52
to the CDC what vaccines to give and
48:55
when to give them.
48:56
Well, the HHA secretary appoints the voting members
48:59
of that advisory committee.
49:01
Laugh Tale.
49:03
Laugh Tale.
49:03
Oh, yeah, that committee, which we know is
49:06
all shills.
49:07
Of that advisory committee.
49:09
Even without official changes, the views of somebody
49:11
at the top of such a powerful organization
49:13
can affect public opinion.
49:15
So if there's doubts, for example, about vaccines,
49:18
that can trickle down and perhaps increase vaccine
49:21
hesitancy.
49:22
Oh, hesitancy.
49:22
Oh, no.
49:23
All I've ever heard Kennedy say is, yeah,
49:26
I just want people to know and I
49:27
don't want to force them.
49:28
I don't want to force their kids to
49:30
take this stuff, which, of course, is very
49:31
bad.
49:34
Dr. LePoucq, you're not just a doctor and
49:36
chief medical officer, but what do your colleagues
49:38
think of this?
49:39
What do your colleagues, what do other doctors
49:41
make of RFK Jr. and if he got
49:43
this job?
49:44
You know, there's agreement and even excitement about
49:46
the idea of making America healthier, decreasing obesity
49:49
and improving our diets.
49:50
Well, here we go.
49:51
Where the concern comes in is there's belief
49:53
and there's evidence.
49:55
And when belief doesn't square with evidence, you
49:57
either change the belief, that's science.
49:59
No evidence.
49:59
Or you change or you cherry pick the
50:01
evidence.
50:02
And there's concern among my colleagues about holding
50:04
on to belief in the face of contradictory
50:07
evidence.
50:08
How concerning is it that people believe these
50:10
things nowadays?
50:11
Loaded question.
50:12
It was once when this was believed to
50:13
be settled fact, right?
50:16
Science fact.
50:17
In the 1950s, the high watermark, you know,
50:19
when polio vaccine.
50:21
Of course, in government vaccines were given for
50:24
polio.
50:25
Like two million people got it at a
50:27
time when people were so terrified about what
50:29
these infections can do.
50:31
But now people don't even remember what the
50:33
measles, mumps, rubella.
50:35
Most people haven't seen it.
50:36
Diphtheria, whooping cough.
50:38
That's one of the problems.
50:39
When public health is working, nothing happens.
50:41
And so people don't appreciate it.
50:43
Yeah.
50:43
Well, don't get us started on the measles,
50:46
Brady Bunch.
50:47
I do want to go to Tina Smith.
50:50
Yeah.
50:51
Tina Smith, the Democrat from Minnesota.
50:54
Who's this?
50:55
Tina Smith, the Democrat from Minnesota.
50:58
And she, her task was to, her attack
51:03
vector was SSRIs and other stuff that science
51:07
can't actually explain how it works.
51:09
But we know it works.
51:10
You just might have to take Relenza or
51:12
Cibolta or some extra thing that increases it.
51:16
And you're on it forever and you feel
51:19
great.
51:20
In an interview in 2023 and again in
51:23
2024, you blamed school shootings on antidepressants.
51:27
You said, and this is a quote, there
51:29
is no time in American history or human
51:32
history that kids were going to shoot schools
51:34
and shooting their classmates.
51:36
It really started happening coterminous with the introduction
51:39
of these drugs, with Prozac and with other
51:42
drugs.
51:43
So do you believe, as you've said, that
51:44
antidepressants cause school shootings?
51:47
This should be a simple question.
51:48
I don't think anybody can answer that question
51:50
and I didn't answer that question.
51:52
I said it should be studied along with
51:56
other potential culprits like social media.
52:01
What?
52:02
Gaming.
52:03
You forgot gaming.
52:04
But I don't know.
52:05
I would never make because there's no science
52:08
on that.
52:08
Well, there is, Senator.
52:10
I mean, excuse me.
52:10
There is, Mr. Kennedy.
52:12
Thank you for the promotion.
52:13
The science shows that there is no link.
52:16
You gave me a joke.
52:17
What?
52:18
You get the line in there.
52:19
Thanks for the promotion.
52:21
This is so good.
52:23
Mr. Kennedy.
52:24
Thank you for the promotion.
52:25
The science shows that there is no link
52:28
between school shootings and antidepressants.
52:30
And in fact, most school shooters were not
52:32
even treated with antidepressants.
52:34
And of those that were, there was no
52:36
evidence of association.
52:37
I don't think you need to say that,
52:40
Senator, because HIPAA rules nobody knows.
52:42
Well, that is Mr. Kennedy.
52:44
Do you think that people who take antidepressants
52:48
are dangerous?
52:48
Yeah, yeah.
52:49
I just went on from there.
52:52
Is my neighbor on antidepressants going to kill
52:54
me?
52:55
Oh, yeah.
52:56
These people are just the worst.
52:58
I thought the funniest was Bernie Sanders.
53:01
Bernie was like...
53:02
This was...
53:02
I'm glad you got these clips, because I
53:04
had to stop at some point.
53:06
Oh, yeah.
53:06
You had to.
53:06
It was too much.
53:07
It was too much.
53:08
But Bernie, this Bernie...
53:10
And this is actually a shock to me,
53:11
because I thought Bernie would be on the
53:13
side of Kennedy.
53:14
Yeah.
53:15
And somebody, like you said, the only thing
53:17
you can assume is somebody bumped up to
53:19
him and said, hey, you know, Bernie.
53:21
Hey, I got to got you, man.
53:22
It's going to look great.
53:23
Your profile is going to be fantastic.
53:25
Yeah, see this?
53:26
Look at this photo.
53:26
Hey, look at this.
53:27
What's that in your mouth, Bernie?
53:28
I think the gist of what you were
53:29
trying to say today is you're really pro
53:33
-vaccine.
53:34
You want to ask questions.
53:36
You have started a group called the Children's
53:39
Health Defense.
53:41
You're the originator.
53:42
Right now, as I understand it, on their
53:44
website, they are selling what's called onesies.
53:47
These are little things, clothing for babies.
53:51
One of them is titled Unfaxed Unafraid.
53:55
Next one, and they're sold for $26 apiece,
53:58
by the way.
53:58
Next one is No Vax, No Problem.
54:03
Now, you're coming before this committee, and you
54:05
say you're pro-vaccine.
54:07
Just want to ask some questions.
54:08
And yet your organization is making money selling
54:12
a child's product to parents for $26, which
54:17
casts fundamental doubt on the usefulness of vaccines.
54:21
Can you tell us now that you will,
54:24
now that you are pro-vaccine, that you're
54:28
going to have your organization take these products
54:31
off the market?
54:32
Senator, I have no power over that organization.
54:34
I'm not a part of it.
54:35
I resigned from the board.
54:36
That was just a few months ago.
54:38
You founded that.
54:39
You certainly have power.
54:41
You can make that power up.
54:42
Are you supportive of this?
54:44
I've had nothing to do with leadership.
54:45
Are you supportive of these onesies?
54:47
I'm supportive of vaccines.
54:48
Can you imagine that someone wrote down in
54:51
his script, you have to say, are you
54:54
supportive of these onesies?
54:55
These onesies.
54:56
These onesies are an outrage.
54:59
That's actually a subclip.
55:00
Are you supportive of these onesies?
55:03
Now, the other thing is his preoccupation with
55:05
this $26.
55:07
Does he think that's a jip or what?
55:09
I mean, what is he so preoccupied?
55:10
Who cares about the price?
55:13
Oh, but the portions are so small.
55:19
Oh, man, I'm sorry he has to go
55:21
through all that.
55:21
I'm sorry for all these people.
55:22
These people are sad and pathetic.
55:25
They really are.
55:26
The onesies.
55:27
The onesies.
55:28
What's my script, Buff?
55:31
You're going to take the onesies, Bernie.
55:33
I want to take the SSRIs.
55:35
Are you supportive of these onesies?
55:36
I want to take the SSRIs.
55:38
I got the onesies.
55:39
What did you get?
55:41
I got MMR. It's not all that great,
55:44
is it?
55:46
Can we move away from this?
55:48
Do you have any more?
55:49
Yeah, I do have the summary clip from
55:53
NTD, which is kind of, I guess, worth
55:55
playing.
55:56
This is the Kennedy rundown.
55:58
Yeah, it's worth it.
55:58
Robert F.
55:59
Kennedy Jr. spent hours in front of the
56:01
Senate Finance Committee Wednesday making statements and answering
56:05
questions on day one of his nomination hearings.
56:09
There is no single culprit in chronic disease.
56:12
Much as I have criticized certain industries and
56:15
agencies, President Trump and I understand that most
56:19
of their scientists and experts genuinely care about
56:22
American health.
56:23
Therefore, we will bring together all stakeholders in
56:27
pursuit of this unifying goal.
56:30
Kennedy is scheduled for two days of hearings,
56:32
which will be followed by a full Senate
56:34
vote on whether or not to confirm him
56:37
as the Secretary of Health and Human Services.
56:40
Many senators probed Kennedy about his stance on
56:44
vaccines.
56:45
Senator Ron Wayden alleged that Kennedy has embraced
56:48
conspiracy theories, especially on the safety and efficacy
56:52
of vaccines.
56:54
He has made it his life's work to
56:57
sow doubt and discourage parents from getting their
57:00
kids life-saving vaccines.
57:03
But Kennedy pushed back, saying that he's not
57:06
anti-vaccine or anti-industry, but he is
57:09
pro-safety.
57:10
I worked for years to raise awareness about
57:13
the mercury and toxic chemicals in fish, and
57:17
nobody called me any fish.
57:20
You know what a guy like Kennedy really
57:23
needs?
57:23
And not just because I can do it,
57:25
but someone like me who can sit there
57:27
with the vast array of no-agenda clips
57:30
in our archive and just go, oh yeah,
57:32
here's what he really said, boom, hit the
57:33
clip.
57:34
You know, that's what he needs, because it's
57:36
all, they're just lying, all of them.
57:39
They lie.
57:41
And they twist it, and they make different
57:44
terms out of it.
57:44
Well, that's because they have an agenda.
57:46
Yeah, but that's why the no agenda has
57:48
to be there.
57:48
Speaking of which, we have our debutante who
57:52
came out this week.
57:56
Her name is Press Secretary Leavitt.
58:01
Leave it to Beaver?
58:02
Leave it to Beaver.
58:03
Leave it.
58:04
Caroline?
58:05
Is it Caroline?
58:06
Caroline, I think.
58:07
Caroline Leavitt, who is 27.
58:10
Yes, the youngest press secretary in history.
58:12
I can't imagine any of our daughters doing
58:15
this job.
58:16
And she's, I mean, she's getting her sea
58:21
legs.
58:22
But this was something that everybody had to
58:25
send me an email about.
58:26
This White House believes strongly in the First
58:28
Amendment, so it's why our team will work
58:30
diligently to restore the press passes of the
58:33
440 journalists whose passes were wrongly revoked by
58:37
the previous administration.
58:39
We're also opening up this briefing room to
58:41
new media voices who produce news-related content
58:44
and whose outlet is not already represented by
58:47
one of the seats in this room.
58:49
We welcome independent journalists, podcasters, social media influencers,
58:54
and content creators to apply for credentials to
58:57
cover this White House.
58:59
Again, podcasting has come a long way.
59:02
I don't know if you got any.
59:04
No, probably you get nothing.
59:05
I got a couple.
59:06
You know, like, are you going to apply
59:08
for credentials?
59:10
No.
59:12
Why in the world?
59:13
We cover media.
59:15
We deconstruct media.
59:16
We don't want to be the media.
59:19
That's true.
59:20
And the second thing that should be noted,
59:21
by the way, 7,200 podcasters have applied.
59:27
How do you know?
59:28
I didn't hear about that.
59:29
It was a news report that came out.
59:31
Somebody, I think, came out of the White
59:33
House.
59:33
That's a lot.
59:33
That's more than I expected.
59:35
And they said the thing was that it
59:38
has to be a daily publication, which eliminates
59:43
us immediately.
59:44
Oh, we're out.
59:44
We're done.
59:46
The thing is, if you go to the
59:48
website, whitehouse.gov slash new media, you get
59:52
a landing page, which is iopra.my.site
59:55
.com, which is in a frame of the
1:00:00
White House, and says, interested in joining a
1:00:02
future White House press briefing?
1:00:04
Share your information below.
1:00:05
And then there's a button that says Siguiente,
1:00:08
which I think is Spanish for enter?
1:00:11
What does Siguiente mean?
1:00:14
I don't know.
1:00:16
Let's look it up.
1:00:17
It probably does mean enter.
1:00:19
Siguiente.
1:00:20
Or go home.
1:00:22
Go away.
1:00:25
Let me see.
1:00:26
This means next.
1:00:32
Oh, next.
1:00:33
It means next, I guess.
1:00:34
Oh, next.
1:00:36
Sequente.
1:00:37
That would be sequence.
1:00:39
From the root sequence.
1:00:42
So I hit next.
1:00:44
And then it has first name.
1:00:45
What is your first name?
1:00:47
Introduza hasta 200 caracteres.
1:00:51
So this thing is in Spanish.
1:00:54
It's the craziest thing.
1:00:57
Maybe you just have the Spanish.
1:00:58
You're in the Spanish track.
1:01:01
No, it's all.
1:01:02
I've tried the VPN.
1:01:03
It's all.
1:01:05
Are you on a VPN?
1:01:07
I've tried it on.
1:01:08
I'm not on a VPN now, but I've
1:01:10
tried it on VPN for different countries.
1:01:11
I keep getting.
1:01:12
It's the same.
1:01:13
I get the same form.
1:01:15
Interesting.
1:01:15
Well, no, it's unprofessional is what it is.
1:01:20
Well.
1:01:20
It's lame.
1:01:21
Like how come the podcasters have to all
1:01:23
speak Spanish?
1:01:23
And what are you doing?
1:01:25
Anyway.
1:01:26
So no, we are not going to apply
1:01:29
for press credentials.
1:01:31
And I guess we don't even qualify.
1:01:35
But we're not going to do that.
1:01:36
We are the media.
1:01:38
Podcasts are now the media.
1:01:39
We will have to deconstruct podcasts, which is
1:01:42
okay.
1:01:43
We're starting to do that.
1:01:45
And this is I'll just give my mini
1:01:47
spiel here.
1:01:48
This is why we need people starting hyper
1:01:50
local podcasts.
1:01:52
Because there's no way that any human being
1:01:55
can go through Rogan and Megan Kelly and
1:01:59
Victor Davis Hanson and Tucker Carlson and call
1:02:02
her daddy.
1:02:03
And you need people in your community who
1:02:06
are doing that distilling it down so that
1:02:08
when you're walking down the street, you can
1:02:10
say, hey, I heard you were talking about
1:02:13
that.
1:02:13
What's going on?
1:02:14
Hyper local podcast dot com.
1:02:17
It'll get you started.
1:02:18
It'll get you started.
1:02:19
The people are very interested in doing this.
1:02:21
They really.
1:02:22
And also, what is it?
1:02:23
What does it mean to your community?
1:02:25
Pot Angeles.
1:02:27
Yes, exactly.
1:02:28
Mimi's got the right idea.
1:02:30
Now.
1:02:30
She does.
1:02:31
We are anachronism.
1:02:33
So I'm trying to use my new word.
1:02:36
Yeah, you got it.
1:02:37
You nailed it.
1:02:38
So that is why, you know, people still
1:02:41
tune in to us because we now are
1:02:43
hyper local.
1:02:44
We're hyper local community of interest.
1:02:47
And we've been around long enough in our
1:02:49
18th year.
1:02:50
But essentially, we're doing the same thing.
1:02:54
You know, come to us.
1:02:55
We'll distill it down.
1:02:56
We'll give you some ideas.
1:02:57
We'll play some clips.
1:02:58
Except we can't talk about your specific neighborhood.
1:03:02
And we certainly never talk about Canada.
1:03:05
Now, along these lines, I would like to
1:03:08
promote Dvorak dot substack dot com.
1:03:14
Where, you know, you don't promote that enough.
1:03:17
I heard you promote it on DH Unplugged.
1:03:19
Yeah.
1:03:20
You should promote that more often.
1:03:22
I should.
1:03:23
You know, I'm not good at promotion.
1:03:25
It's pretty apparent.
1:03:26
D-V-O-R-A-K.
1:03:30
Dvorak.
1:03:31
Dvorak.
1:03:31
We need somebody to do a jingle with
1:03:34
spelling my name.
1:03:35
Oh, yeah.
1:03:35
We'll do that right after Dvorak dot org
1:03:38
slash N-A.
1:03:40
Which I'm sure you've already made the forward
1:03:42
to knowagentthedonations.com.
1:03:44
Which Tina asked me about every other day.
1:03:47
No, she doesn't.
1:03:48
Yes, she does.
1:03:49
No, you're acting like NBC.
1:03:51
No, she comes every other.
1:03:53
She says, oh, how's that microphone company coming?
1:03:55
About as good as the vinegar book.
1:03:58
About as good as the vinegar book.
1:03:59
And then she'll say, oh, how about the
1:04:01
donation page?
1:04:02
Yeah, that's okay.
1:04:03
Hey, it's all right.
1:04:04
I love you regardless.
1:04:06
It's okay.
1:04:07
I don't need another company.
1:04:08
Get to work, Dvorak.
1:04:11
Somebody should love me.
1:04:12
Get to work.
1:04:14
Newsletter didn't pay off.
1:04:15
Lousy donations, thanks to you.
1:04:17
Oh, excuse me.
1:04:19
You're like, donations are great.
1:04:20
It was the newsletter.
1:04:21
Yeah, okay, fine.
1:04:22
You want to take that side of the
1:04:24
coin.
1:04:24
It doesn't matter because I think there's a
1:04:27
big future for you.
1:04:28
By the way, Spam Assassin is out to
1:04:34
get us.
1:04:34
Spam Assassin is the reason a lot of
1:04:36
people don't get the newsletter.
1:04:37
If you have anything to do with Spam
1:04:39
Assassin, that's a lousy operation because they have
1:04:42
blocked us and make our newsletter.
1:04:44
People subscribe to this newsletter.
1:04:46
It's not spam.
1:04:48
I think there's a way to unblock ourselves
1:04:52
from Spam Assassin.
1:04:54
You can go into Spam Assassin and say,
1:04:57
no, this is good.
1:04:58
What happens is the way these things get
1:05:00
on the block list is some jabroni hits
1:05:04
block.
1:05:07
The whole email is broken, just like everything.
1:05:10
The only thing that still works is podcasts,
1:05:11
and this is where I was leading up
1:05:13
to, since you have a sub stack, you
1:05:17
should do a sub stack live.
1:05:19
Sub stack live.
1:05:20
Look, even Jim Acosta is doing it.
1:05:24
Hey, guys.
1:05:25
Hey, guys.
1:05:25
He's going to make a lot of money,
1:05:27
that guy.
1:05:27
Hey, guys.
1:05:28
Hey, guys.
1:05:29
You know what?
1:05:29
Before you play this, which I'm glad you
1:05:31
got, and by the way, it is sub
1:05:33
stack, Dvorak.substack.com.
1:05:36
You can read.
1:05:37
Adam was trying to promote there was the
1:05:39
freak show column I just wrote describing the
1:05:46
freak show that we're literally getting from the
1:05:48
Democrats.
1:05:49
Yes.
1:05:50
You know, people with the blue hair and
1:05:51
the nose rings and the gauged ears and
1:05:54
the whole thing.
1:05:54
They're all Democrats.
1:05:56
It was a groovy old man post.
1:06:00
It was something.
1:06:02
A lot of people like this structure.
1:06:04
No, it's a classic Dvorak structure.
1:06:07
Classic.
1:06:08
That's why I bring it up.
1:06:10
Well, I'm glad you did, by the way.
1:06:11
And I think you should get your phone,
1:06:14
and it has a camera.
1:06:15
I know it has a camera, and you
1:06:16
should do a sub stack.
1:06:17
No.
1:06:18
I think you got the wrong idea.
1:06:20
Sub stack live.
1:06:21
Here he is.
1:06:21
Hi, guys.
1:06:22
It's Dvorak here.
1:06:23
No.
1:06:23
No.
1:06:23
I've got, as you noted in the tip
1:06:27
of the day, I have the three-way,
1:06:29
the three-channel car cam.
1:06:32
Do it from your car.
1:06:33
Do it from your car.
1:06:34
And I have that.
1:06:34
I can point the camera at me in
1:06:36
the driver's seat, and I can do my
1:06:37
podcast from the car like a pro.
1:06:40
Let me tell you.
1:06:40
I would pay good money to see you
1:06:43
do a sub stack live from the Lexus.
1:06:45
You have no idea.
1:06:46
Let me be your manager for a moment.
1:06:50
Instant classic.
1:06:51
No, instant bestseller.
1:06:54
We'll put a gold star on it.
1:06:56
Instant bestseller if you do sub stack live.
1:06:58
And here is your example.
1:07:01
This is your leader, Jim Acosta.
1:07:02
Hey, guys.
1:07:03
It's Jim.
1:07:05
And let me just say this.
1:07:06
I've had quite the day.
1:07:07
But as you could see earlier today, this
1:07:09
was my last day at CNN.
1:07:12
And I did want to jump on sub
1:07:14
stack live here for a moment and say,
1:07:16
welcome to my new venture.
1:07:18
I'm going independent, at least for now.
1:07:20
This is just the beginning.
1:07:22
But I wanted to invite you to join
1:07:24
me here on this platform as we talk
1:07:26
about the day's news, talk about politics, and
1:07:28
so on.
1:07:29
I do want to, just in case, just
1:07:31
in case you missed my closing message earlier
1:07:33
in the day, don't give in to the
1:07:36
lies.
1:07:38
Don't give in to fear.
1:07:40
Hold on to the truth.
1:07:42
And hope.
1:07:43
And keep this conversation going.
1:07:45
Great to see all of you here.
1:07:47
We'll talk some more soon.
1:07:48
And I think you should sign off like
1:07:49
that.
1:07:49
Don't give in to the fear.
1:07:52
Keep your hope alive.
1:07:53
And I'll see you soon.
1:07:54
We'll keep the conversation going.
1:07:56
That is how you do it.
1:07:58
That is your example for Dvorak alive from
1:08:02
the Lexus, ladies and gentlemen.
1:08:04
I'm telling you, it's an instant topper, chart
1:08:07
topper, winner.
1:08:08
iTunes is ready to put you on top.
1:08:11
I'm all in, but I think it's going
1:08:13
to come off as the tech grouch.
1:08:15
Well, then wear the beard.
1:08:17
It's fine.
1:08:17
Do the tech grouch.
1:08:18
I've got the beard.
1:08:18
I still have the costume.
1:08:20
Yeah.
1:08:20
And then just do straight up news.
1:08:23
Grouch.
1:08:25
Straight up.
1:08:26
Tech grouch.
1:08:27
Yeah.
1:08:29
Speaking of mainstream, of course, we have a
1:08:32
new FCC chair.
1:08:33
And wouldn't you know it.
1:08:34
The FCC has reinstated complaints against CBS, ABC,
1:08:38
and NBC regarding last fall's presidential election.
1:08:42
New Republican Chairman Brendan Carr brought back these
1:08:44
cases after they were dismissed in the final
1:08:47
days of the Biden administration.
1:08:49
Notably, a complaint against Fox News will not
1:08:52
be reinstated.
1:08:53
The CBS complaint accuses the network 60 Minutes
1:08:56
of editing an interview with Kamala Harris, claiming
1:08:58
it distorted news to benefit her campaign.
1:09:01
ABC faces a complaint for alleged bias during
1:09:03
Harris's debate with Donald Trump, where moderators were
1:09:06
accused of favored treatment.
1:09:07
NBC is under fire for a Saturday Night
1:09:10
Live episode that featured Harris without a similar
1:09:13
opportunity for Trump.
1:09:14
Former FCC chairwoman Jessica Rosenworcel dismissed all four
1:09:18
complaints just before leaving office.
1:09:20
Carr, who has been vocal in support of
1:09:22
Trump, promises to address these issues as FCC
1:09:25
chair.
1:09:26
The reinstatements may signal a shift in oversight
1:09:28
of broadcast media.
1:09:30
Yeah, baby.
1:09:31
This is good.
1:09:32
This is good.
1:09:33
This is going after him.
1:09:34
I like it.
1:09:34
We have an associated clip.
1:09:36
All right.
1:09:36
Which is the.
1:09:38
Where is it?
1:09:40
I don't know.
1:09:41
It's the May.
1:09:41
It's a meta meta lawsuit paid.
1:09:44
Oh, yes.
1:09:45
Yes.
1:09:46
Is this the mega clips?
1:09:49
No, no.
1:09:50
Meta.
1:09:51
Meta.
1:09:51
I was going to.
1:09:52
Well, you never know.
1:09:53
You know, the mega clips are coming.
1:09:55
You never know.
1:09:56
Facebook parent meta is agreeing to pay 25
1:09:58
million dollars to settle a lawsuit filed by
1:10:01
President Trump against the company after it suspended
1:10:04
his accounts following the January six attack on
1:10:06
the Capitol.
1:10:07
Just the latest settling of litigation with the
1:10:09
president who threatened retribution on his critics and
1:10:11
rivals.
1:10:12
Meted and CEO Mark Zuckerberg among the billionaires
1:10:15
who sought to ingratiate themselves with Trump since
1:10:17
he won reelection.
1:10:19
Oh, I have.
1:10:19
I think I have a little better clip
1:10:21
because it has.
1:10:22
I hope so.
1:10:23
Yeah.
1:10:23
Because let me see if I hear.
1:10:26
Here we go.
1:10:28
This is.
1:10:29
Where's this from?
1:10:30
This is from NBC.
1:10:32
Of course, NBC is going to be great.
1:10:33
Let's give you some breaking news into the
1:10:35
White House.
1:10:36
Valley.
1:10:37
President Trump, we've learned, has signed an agreement
1:10:39
with Meta to settle a lawsuit that he
1:10:42
filed against the company for suspending his account
1:10:45
after the attack on the Capitol on January
1:10:47
6th, four years ago.
1:10:48
The settlement, we understand, to be 25 million
1:10:51
dollars, most of which is going towards his
1:10:54
future presidential library.
1:10:56
This story first was reported by The Wall
1:10:58
Street Journal.
1:10:59
Meta says it has no comment on that,
1:11:00
but says they can confirm that they have
1:11:01
a 22 million dollar number to the Trump
1:11:04
library.
1:11:04
Garrett Haake is at the White House.
1:11:05
Garrett, this is so interesting for a lot
1:11:08
of reasons here.
1:11:09
And I know you've just confirmed this with
1:11:11
some of your sources here.
1:11:12
Your sources are great, Garrett.
1:11:14
There is a fascinating detail in the initial
1:11:16
Wall Street Journal article that I should note
1:11:18
NBC News has not confirmed.
1:11:19
It's not confirmed, but it's fascinating and it's
1:11:22
a detail.
1:11:22
So let's go to the White House.
1:11:24
He's standing in front of the White House.
1:11:25
It's so official.
1:11:26
For the end of the November dinner.
1:11:27
So this is a dinner that we've reported
1:11:29
on, or at least a visit to Mar
1:11:31
-a-Lago by Mark Zuckerberg, went down after
1:11:33
Donald Trump won the election.
1:11:34
Why are they talking?
1:11:35
Hold on a second.
1:11:37
Why are these women reporters for NBC, this
1:11:40
is the second one, this is a different
1:11:41
woman, talk so fast?
1:11:44
Oh, the new shipment of snow came in,
1:11:47
if you know what I'm saying.
1:11:49
I'm just saying.
1:11:51
Soon to be President Trump raised the matter
1:11:53
of the lawsuit, the people said.
1:11:54
The president signaled that the litigation had to
1:11:57
be resolved before Zuckerberg could be, quote-unquote,
1:11:59
brought into the tent, according to one of
1:12:01
these sources speaking with the Wall Street Journal,
1:12:03
Garrett.
1:12:04
He can be brought into the tent.
1:12:06
There's no evidence this was said.
1:12:09
There's no evidence.
1:12:10
But they go on and on about, oh,
1:12:12
Trump said, well, you can't be brought into
1:12:15
the tent.
1:12:16
Into the tent, my brother.
1:12:19
I mean, does that even sound like Trump?
1:12:21
No, not at all.
1:12:22
Can't bring you into the tent, Zuck.
1:12:25
Meanwhile, wow, another opportunity.
1:12:29
Another one for you.
1:12:31
I'm excited about this.
1:12:32
You really need to get the Lexus mobile
1:12:34
cranked up, the 2006 Lexus, with your three.
1:12:39
2005.
1:12:40
Whoa.
1:12:41
I'm sorry, don't want to insult you.
1:12:44
With your three-way camera or whatever it
1:12:47
is, your tech grouch beard because there's instant
1:12:49
guaranteed cash.
1:12:51
Meta is making a bold play to attract
1:12:53
TikTok creators by offering up to $5,000
1:12:56
to influencers who join Facebook and Instagram.
1:13:00
With TikTok's future in the U.S. uncertain,
1:13:02
this breakthrough bonus program is a tempting opportunity
1:13:05
for creators.
1:13:07
To qualify, you need to post at least
1:13:09
20 reels on Facebook and 10 on Instagram
1:13:11
every month.
1:13:13
All original content.
1:13:14
But here's the catch.
1:13:16
It's only for those who've never posted on
1:13:18
either platform before.
1:13:19
Plus, accepted creators get perks like a free
1:13:23
verification subscription.
1:13:25
Meta isn't stopping there.
1:13:26
They've launched edits, a CapCut-like app, and
1:13:29
revamped Instagram's layout to mimic TikTok.
1:13:32
While some users are frustrated with these changes,
1:13:35
it's clear Meta is serious about dominating the
1:13:38
short-form video space.
1:13:40
I mean, this is great.
1:13:43
To five grand.
1:13:45
Top that with a newsletter.
1:13:47
This is good stuff.
1:13:47
This is cash money money in the bank.
1:13:50
Okay, I want to just stick with this
1:13:53
in this area for a second because this
1:13:55
is probably the best truth wants to come
1:13:58
out clip I've heard this year.
1:14:00
I know we're only a couple weeks into
1:14:02
it, but it's the best, best this year.
1:14:06
So Vivek Ramaswamy.
1:14:09
Vivek.
1:14:10
Vivek Ramaswamy.
1:14:11
Vivek is an ache.
1:14:11
All of a sudden he drops out of
1:14:13
the Department of Governmental Efficiency.
1:14:16
You know, it's very shady.
1:14:19
I mean, he walked in.
1:14:20
He walked in as part of the cabinet
1:14:22
during the inauguration, and then he's kind of
1:14:25
out.
1:14:26
He's like, oh, no, no.
1:14:27
He can't really talk about it, but he's
1:14:29
probably going to run for the Ohio Senate
1:14:31
seat and everything.
1:14:32
But the truth came out in his discussion
1:14:36
with Jesse Watters, and you'll love it.
1:14:40
So we're hearing you're leaving Doge after like
1:14:44
three scaramoochies.
1:14:46
What happened?
1:14:47
Well, the reality is I'm pursuing elected office
1:14:49
very shortly.
1:14:49
We'll have an announcement soon.
1:14:50
But, Jesse, things are off to a great
1:14:52
start.
1:14:52
I think President Trump has proven.
1:14:54
Look at the actions that he took in
1:14:55
that first week.
1:14:56
The most pro-merit president I think we've
1:14:58
had in a long time.
1:14:59
And as for my vision grounded in constitutional
1:15:01
law and the future of the country, I
1:15:03
think it's best pursued through elected office, and
1:15:05
I'm confident that they're going to succeed in
1:15:07
slashing and burning that federal bureaucracy.
1:15:09
People are saying you didn't get along with
1:15:11
Musk.
1:15:12
What happened there?
1:15:13
I think that's incorrect.
1:15:14
But what I would say is we had
1:15:15
different and complementary approaches.
1:15:17
I focused more on a constitutional law, legislative
1:15:19
-based approach.
1:15:20
He focused more on a technology approach, which
1:15:22
is the future approach.
1:15:23
No better person to lead that technology.
1:15:26
Did you hear it?
1:15:27
No.
1:15:28
Broge.
1:15:29
He said broge instead of doge because, of
1:15:32
course, that is what he's saying behind closed
1:15:34
doors.
1:15:35
This is just broge, man.
1:15:37
It's just the tech bros.
1:15:38
The tech bros have broge.
1:15:40
Play it again so I can hear it
1:15:42
because I was listening as hard as I
1:15:44
could for the truthfulness to come out, but
1:15:46
I missed.
1:15:47
I knew that he said broge before because
1:15:50
I'd read about it.
1:15:50
I never heard him say it, but here
1:15:52
it is.
1:15:52
No, I read about it.
1:15:53
I never heard him say it.
1:15:54
I just read about it.
1:15:56
Constitutional law, legislative-based approach.
1:15:58
He focused more on a technology approach, which
1:16:00
is the future approach.
1:16:01
No better person to lead.
1:16:02
Broge.
1:16:03
Come on.
1:16:05
Come on.
1:16:06
It's the broge.
1:16:07
Oh, you know what I heard?
1:16:10
I heard it was the future approach.
1:16:13
No, future of broge.
1:16:14
He said broge.
1:16:16
Yeah.
1:16:17
I didn't hear it because I heard something
1:16:19
else.
1:16:19
Well, speaking of the future of broge, well,
1:16:21
breaking news, CNBC.
1:16:23
Breaking, breaking, breaking.
1:16:24
X is striking a deal with Visa to
1:16:26
be the first partner for what it is
1:16:28
calling the X money account.
1:16:30
Since buying Twitter in 2022, Elon Musk has
1:16:32
talked about turning the social media site into
1:16:34
a quote everything app where users can send
1:16:37
payments and store cash.
1:16:38
By using the payment rails of Visa, the
1:16:40
world's biggest credit card network, X users can
1:16:42
move funds between traditional bank accounts and the
1:16:44
X money account.
1:16:46
They can store funds there and also make
1:16:47
instant peer-to-peer payments with other X
1:16:49
users like with Zell or Venmo, I'm told.
1:16:52
The X money service is expected to launch
1:16:54
in the first quarter and deals with more
1:16:55
financial partners are likely, said one person with
1:16:58
knowledge of the matter.
1:16:59
One of the first use cases for X
1:17:01
money is so that creators on the site
1:17:02
can accept payments and store funds without using
1:17:05
external banks.
1:17:06
I'm told.
1:17:07
Minutes ago, X Corp CEO said in a
1:17:10
post that it is, quote, first of many
1:17:12
big announcements about X money this year.
1:17:14
Hugh, I have a question about regulation with
1:17:17
regard to social media.
1:17:18
Is it different for a partnership like this
1:17:21
than it would be, say, for more traditional
1:17:23
interchanges with financial partners?
1:17:26
Yeah, Leslie, it's a fascinating question because, you
1:17:29
know, X money, Twitter has been accumulating money
1:17:32
transmitter licenses.
1:17:34
Listening to this guy, I think you're right
1:17:35
about the delivery of the snowballs or whatever
1:17:40
you, however you put it.
1:17:41
The snowstorm.
1:17:42
That's a guy yakking away like a maniac.
1:17:45
Interchanges with financial partners.
1:17:47
Yeah, Leslie, it's a fascinating question because, you
1:17:49
know, X money, Twitter has been accumulating money
1:17:53
transmitter licenses in more than 30 states over
1:17:56
the past year.
1:17:56
So they're going to be what's more like
1:17:58
Stripe or other fintech intermediaries where they're going
1:18:02
to be able to provide banking like services
1:18:04
without really going to the work of being
1:18:06
a regulated bank.
1:18:08
And so I would think that there is
1:18:09
some elements of the banking universe.
1:18:11
Think community banks, think smaller banks, which are
1:18:13
going to potentially protest this incursion by technology.
1:18:17
Yeah, we'll see.
1:18:19
I don't know, man.
1:18:20
I don't know if people will trust their
1:18:22
Twitter account with their money.
1:18:26
I'm not so sure.
1:18:27
Well, bringing Visa in is probably a smart
1:18:29
idea because they have a brand name.
1:18:31
He's doing that.
1:18:32
Well, I think he's doing that because of
1:18:34
Plaid.
1:18:34
Visa owns Plaid.
1:18:35
I think they own Plaid.
1:18:36
I think they acquired Plaid.
1:18:38
And Plaid is the connector.
1:18:40
That's how Venmo does it.
1:18:41
That's how Cash App does it.
1:18:45
That's maybe for the streets, but I don't
1:18:47
know.
1:18:48
I don't know how that's going to work,
1:18:51
which brings us to the contentious conversation we
1:18:54
need to have.
1:18:54
But I actually think we're both on the
1:18:57
same side of this, but maybe approach it
1:18:59
from slightly different vectors.
1:19:03
I like this.
1:19:03
It's my new word today, vectors.
1:19:05
Vectors.
1:19:05
Vectors.
1:19:06
Today's word is vector.
1:19:08
No, it's anachronism.
1:19:10
That's the secret word.
1:19:11
We go to NPR for some in-depth
1:19:14
reporting on DeepSeek.
1:19:17
Tech stocks have plummeted around the world over
1:19:19
the past day as Investors Digest reports that
1:19:22
a Chinese company developed a competitive AI model
1:19:25
on the cheap.
1:19:26
The company is called DeepSeek and it even
1:19:29
caught President Trump's eye.
1:19:30
The release of DeepSeek.
1:19:32
By the way, there's something with the president's
1:19:35
voice here.
1:19:37
And by the way, CheapSeek is the way
1:19:39
of what I call it.
1:19:40
I heard it.
1:19:41
It was funny.
1:19:42
But you already used it on DH Unplugged
1:19:44
as a title.
1:19:45
So I can't use it again.
1:19:46
It's not even funny.
1:19:48
I already heard it's not even funny anymore.
1:19:49
CheapSeek.
1:19:50
The president's voice is very weak here and
1:19:53
it's uncharacteristic.
1:19:55
I don't know.
1:19:56
Competitive AI model on the cheap.
1:19:58
The company is called DeepSeek and it even
1:20:01
caught President Trump's eye.
1:20:02
The release of DeepSeek AI from a Chinese
1:20:06
company should be a wake up call for
1:20:09
our industries that we need to be laser
1:20:11
focused on competing to win.
1:20:13
And PR's John Rewich is on the line
1:20:15
now from China to help make sense of
1:20:16
how big a deal this actually is.
1:20:18
We've got a guy in China.
1:20:19
Hi there.
1:20:20
So first of all, tell us about this
1:20:22
company that many people, including me, just heard
1:20:25
of now.
1:20:27
Yeah, DeepSeek is a spinoff from a Chinese
1:20:29
hedge fund.
1:20:30
It was established just two years ago in
1:20:32
2023 and it's based in the eastern city
1:20:35
of Hangzhou, which is sort of a tech
1:20:36
hub here in China.
1:20:38
And in a nutshell, what they did was
1:20:39
hire a bunch of top notch engineers and
1:20:42
develop new algorithms, basically more efficient ways of
1:20:45
training and running artificial intelligence with less computational
1:20:47
power.
1:20:48
And what's the significance of that?
1:20:50
Well, the product is said to rival tools
1:20:53
from competitors like OpenAI and Google in terms
1:20:55
of what it can do.
1:20:56
Things like analyzing data and solving complex problems.
1:21:00
It's impressed a lot of people.
1:21:01
It rattled markets.
1:21:03
And what rattled the markets is the narrative,
1:21:05
which comes with some caveats that DeepSeek basically
1:21:07
did it all cheaper, quicker and with less
1:21:10
powerful microprocessors than its big competitors.
1:21:12
It's no surprise this comes out of Hangzhou
1:21:15
because it's a very Hangzhou type of company.
1:21:18
I couldn't resist.
1:21:20
Well, one more clip and then we'll discuss.
1:21:23
OK, so tell us more about those caveats.
1:21:25
Sure.
1:21:26
The first one is around cost.
1:21:28
DeepSeek says that it spent under six million
1:21:30
dollars to make this thing.
1:21:32
That's tiny relative to the hundreds of millions
1:21:35
of dollars that others are investing, even billions.
1:21:37
But analysts say that that low figure is
1:21:39
easy to misinterpret because it doesn't include, for
1:21:41
instance, the cost of developing various versions from
1:21:45
which this latest version was distilled.
1:21:47
OK.
1:21:48
So we really don't know what the total
1:21:50
development cost was, how inexpensive it was.
1:21:52
The second caveat has to do with the
1:21:54
hardware, has to do with the chips that
1:21:56
are critical to developing AI.
1:21:57
OK, tell us more about that.
1:21:58
The Biden administration banned the best AI microprocessors
1:22:02
from being sold to China.
1:22:04
Were they able to get around it?
1:22:06
It's tricky.
1:22:07
You know, the chips that really matter for
1:22:08
AI are made by NVIDIA, which, by the
1:22:11
way, took a massive tumble on the stock
1:22:12
market after the DeepSeek news.
1:22:14
Back in 2022, NVIDIA were told they couldn't
1:22:17
sell their best product to China.
1:22:19
Of course, some of those were already those
1:22:20
chips were already there.
1:22:21
Some may have leaked in, but they made
1:22:23
a slightly downgraded version at the time that
1:22:25
they could sell to China legally.
1:22:26
That's what DeepSeek says it used to train
1:22:29
its latest model.
1:22:30
The Biden administration subsequently decided that those chips
1:22:33
were actually too powerful.
1:22:34
They banned those ones from being sold to
1:22:36
China, too.
1:22:38
That was in 2023.
1:22:39
A year had passed.
1:22:40
The horse was sort of out of the
1:22:41
barn.
1:22:41
Here's Gregory Allen, the director of the Wadwani
1:22:44
AI Center at the Center for Strategic and
1:22:46
International Studies in Washington.
1:22:47
We are currently living through the era of
1:22:50
the lagging impact of the Biden administration's misfire
1:22:55
in that first batch of AI export controls.
1:22:59
All right.
1:22:59
So you've you've looked at this.
1:23:01
You I heard some of your conversation.
1:23:04
I have some thoughts as well.
1:23:05
I'd love to hear what your take is
1:23:08
on cheap seek.
1:23:11
Well, a couple of things.
1:23:12
This was discussed and people should go back
1:23:14
and listen to DH unplugged, which we don't.
1:23:16
Which is on Wednesdays, Wednesday night.
1:23:19
You do it live.
1:23:20
And there's a podcast.
1:23:22
Listen to it.
1:23:23
It's very good.
1:23:24
Although Andrew is getting a little he's getting
1:23:26
a little uppity.
1:23:28
I think I think he lost money.
1:23:30
I think he lost money on this somehow.
1:23:32
I don't think he did, which is not
1:23:33
good because Tina has her retirement fund with
1:23:36
him.
1:23:36
I think he lost money big, bigly somehow.
1:23:39
He's really done.
1:23:41
He seems pretty chipper to me.
1:23:43
I don't know what you think.
1:23:44
He's here.
1:23:44
He sounded uppity.
1:23:46
You know, like he was choppy and you
1:23:48
know, like slice.
1:23:49
Well, he was he was made.
1:23:51
Well, he does maybe subscribe to the bull
1:23:54
crap.
1:23:54
But you don't you think that all AI
1:23:56
is crap.
1:23:57
So, so, so this so that that's a
1:24:01
little different than what I think.
1:24:02
And I think that what CheapSeek is doing
1:24:04
here is doing things best price, which is
1:24:06
to look because I the reason I'm going
1:24:09
to say this is because I ran a
1:24:11
what is the no agenda show.
1:24:12
Somebody sent me a link to it to
1:24:14
a CheapSeek results on what's the no agenda
1:24:18
show.
1:24:18
And it was a rundown of the show.
1:24:20
And it was pretty accurate.
1:24:21
And I said, this is pretty good.
1:24:22
And so I decided to do the same
1:24:24
search on perplexity and grok and chat GPT.
1:24:30
And they all had the same elements within
1:24:32
them, although they weren't summarized as well.
1:24:34
And I'm getting the impression that CheapSeek is
1:24:38
using probably distributed system to go into the
1:24:41
other systems, take their stuff and use the
1:24:44
AI mechanism to take that stuff as the
1:24:49
as the language model that they want to
1:24:51
use.
1:24:51
And then just shrink it down a little
1:24:53
more and give it back to you.
1:24:54
I just don't think they're doing anything from
1:24:57
an original from a point of originality.
1:25:00
I think they're derivative.
1:25:01
I think this is something of a scam.
1:25:06
So I download because the results were basically
1:25:08
the same.
1:25:09
Sure.
1:25:10
Well, as the other guys, only it wasn't
1:25:12
as much of it.
1:25:13
They just shortened it.
1:25:14
I have a slightly different take.
1:25:16
I downloaded the the R1 V3 model and
1:25:20
some of the other ones.
1:25:21
And I run that here locally, which is
1:25:23
that's kind of to me.
1:25:25
The story is it's all open source.
1:25:27
And, you know, it'll just come down to
1:25:29
compute.
1:25:29
How much compute do you have to run
1:25:31
it fast for for, you know, millions of
1:25:34
users?
1:25:36
I just saw your little beelinks.
1:25:38
That's how my start nine.
1:25:40
But equivalent, equivalent.
1:25:44
And I disconnected network access so it could
1:25:48
not go out and cheat.
1:25:50
It couldn't go out and cheat.
1:25:52
So it's I think it's what they call
1:25:54
a, you know, a model distillation.
1:25:59
And and really the thing is, these are
1:26:02
not benchmarks.
1:26:03
You know, tell me about the no agenda
1:26:05
show.
1:26:05
So what?
1:26:06
I mean, go to Wikipedia.
1:26:08
I mean, that's where it's getting it from.
1:26:10
But I think that what I'm happy about
1:26:11
is not.
1:26:13
Well, what I'm happy about is that this
1:26:15
will only accelerate the entropy.
1:26:17
There's just more crap that's going to come
1:26:19
out.
1:26:20
They're done.
1:26:21
No one has any more data to scrape.
1:26:23
So this model, you know, Sam Altman apparently
1:26:25
is already saying they stole our data.
1:26:27
Well, you stole it from us in the
1:26:29
first place.
1:26:29
You douche.
1:26:30
You're stealing everything.
1:26:31
Everything.
1:26:32
It's it's it has to degrade sooner or
1:26:35
later.
1:26:36
And it's still if you lock it down.
1:26:37
It's still not really impressive.
1:26:41
You know.
1:26:41
Yeah.
1:26:42
It can write an email.
1:26:43
Yeah.
1:26:43
It can.
1:26:44
I use it for Bible scripture.
1:26:46
Oh, good.
1:26:47
Jeez.
1:26:47
It ingested every single word of the Bible.
1:26:51
Every translation.
1:26:52
What do you mean you use it for
1:26:54
Bible scripture?
1:26:54
You're writing tracks.
1:26:56
Are you doing some.
1:26:57
So what are you using for Bible scripture
1:26:59
for?
1:27:00
If I want to find a Bible passage
1:27:04
about a certain situation, it can usually come
1:27:06
up with something.
1:27:07
You still use one of those Bible search
1:27:09
engines.
1:27:09
There's a bunch of them and they have
1:27:10
they have all the different versions of the
1:27:12
Bible.
1:27:13
That's that.
1:27:13
So they've ingested that.
1:27:15
So the inference is I want a scripture
1:27:18
that talks about this and then you can
1:27:21
say, and by the way, answer me as
1:27:23
a Southern Baptist pastor.
1:27:24
It's hilarious.
1:27:26
Let me tell you, my friend.
1:27:29
No, it's so it does that kind of
1:27:32
stuff.
1:27:33
I think it's really good for repetitive tasks.
1:27:36
If you can train your own model, which
1:27:38
which eventually will be coming.
1:27:40
But it's it's just none of it's really
1:27:42
impressive.
1:27:42
Really test this.
1:27:44
It's not impressive.
1:27:45
There's a note of detestation.
1:27:47
Well, yes, there is.
1:27:49
I wanted to die.
1:27:50
I wanted to die a horrible death.
1:27:52
I love that.
1:27:54
Why?
1:27:54
Because it's annoying.
1:27:56
It's annoying.
1:27:57
What's annoying about it?
1:27:58
What's annoying to me is that everywhere I
1:28:01
turn, there's AI.
1:28:02
I mean, so now France, France comes out
1:28:05
with an AI chat bot that they were
1:28:07
going to put into the schools and the
1:28:11
don't find this hilarious.
1:28:13
I mean, I think it's good for the
1:28:15
show, but then I go.
1:28:17
Someone sends me a report.
1:28:19
It's a crappy AI voice reading a report
1:28:22
about AI.
1:28:23
Welcome to generative AI news.
1:28:24
Today, we delve into the story of Lucy,
1:28:27
France's ambitious AI chat bot that recently made
1:28:30
headlines for all the wrong reasons.
1:28:32
Launched with high hopes and national pride.
1:28:34
Lucy was designed to embody European values and
1:28:37
challenge the dominance of English language AI tools
1:28:39
backed by President Macron and public funds.
1:28:42
It aimed to promote cultural diversity and digital
1:28:44
sovereignty.
1:28:45
However, just days after its launch, Lucy faced
1:28:48
widespread criticism for providing inaccurate and nonsensical responses.
1:28:53
Users reported that the chat bot made historical
1:28:55
inaccuracies, such as stating that Herod the Great
1:28:57
played a role in developing the atomic bomb
1:28:59
and bizarre claims like cow's eggs being a
1:29:02
healthy food source.
1:29:03
These errors led to mockery and concern, especially
1:29:06
when it was revealed that Lucy was intended
1:29:07
for use in French schools.
1:29:09
In response to the backlash, Linagora, the French
1:29:12
open source software firm leading the project, temporarily
1:29:15
suspended Lucy.
1:29:16
They acknowledged that the chat bot was an
1:29:18
academic research project in its early stages and
1:29:21
admitted that the launch was premature.
1:29:23
The firm expressed regret, stating, we got carried
1:29:26
away by our own enthusiasm.
1:29:28
This incident highlights the challenges and complexities of
1:29:30
developing AI tools that are both accurate and
1:29:33
culturally relevant.
1:29:34
So I guess maybe I'm trying to, I
1:29:37
love that story.
1:29:38
I mean, come on.
1:29:40
No, I'm trying to, I'm trying to examine
1:29:42
where my disdain comes from.
1:29:44
And I think it comes from this promise.
1:29:47
And I have friends who are, I mean,
1:29:49
it's the same friend who tells me he
1:29:51
can't wait to pull up with his flying
1:29:52
car and park it in my front yard.
1:29:55
I'm like, Vic, it's not going to happen.
1:29:56
He's going to bring some cow eggs over.
1:29:58
Now he's also selling AI into, where it
1:30:02
works is like telemarketing, you know, that kind
1:30:04
of stuff.
1:30:05
But I think, you know, humans, it's go
1:30:07
humans.
1:30:08
We're going to have to come back to
1:30:09
humans because it's like the hoverboard.
1:30:12
It's never really going to pay off.
1:30:14
They made a huge mistake by releasing chat
1:30:17
GPT and, you know, and they did it
1:30:19
all for greed.
1:30:20
It's all for money.
1:30:21
Sam Altman drives a $4 million EV.
1:30:24
I know.
1:30:24
It's it's disdain for brooch.
1:30:27
It's just disdain for Silicon Valley.
1:30:29
It's disdain for the wasted energy and just
1:30:33
nonsense.
1:30:34
And it's eventually it's, you know, we saw
1:30:37
what happened.
1:30:38
One little blip and, you know, 600 billion
1:30:40
child of Silicon Valley, which you are, whether
1:30:43
you like it or not.
1:30:45
This is unbelievable.
1:30:47
Listen to this.
1:30:48
I am the antithesis to Silicon Valley.
1:30:51
The antithesis.
1:30:52
You've gone out and done your Silicon Valley.
1:30:55
And I hated it.
1:30:57
And I hated it.
1:30:57
That doesn't mean anything.
1:30:59
You hated it.
1:31:00
Because it sucks.
1:31:01
It's horrible.
1:31:02
It's not an efficient way to to progress
1:31:05
technology.
1:31:06
I like the open source stuff, but no
1:31:08
one is.
1:31:09
It's all part of the tricks.
1:31:11
Nothing is impressive.
1:31:12
Nothing is without error.
1:31:13
And, you know, the only thing that this
1:31:16
may show is that by running smaller language
1:31:20
models, you'll get mistakes cheaper.
1:31:24
And what is it?
1:31:26
You see that coming.
1:31:27
What is it really telling me?
1:31:28
But oh, no, no, we've got to we've
1:31:30
got to get it into government.
1:31:32
OpenAI has launched ChatGBT Gov, a new platform
1:31:35
specifically designed for U.S. government use, which
1:31:37
builds upon the security features of ChatGBT Enterprise.
1:31:40
This new product enables government agencies to implement
1:31:43
sensitive, non-public data into OpenAI's models while
1:31:46
maintaining the security of their own hosting environments.
1:31:49
Since the start of 2024, over 90,000
1:31:51
government employees at various levels have utilized ChatGBT
1:31:55
to generate over 18 million prompts for tasks
1:31:58
such as document translation and summarization, policy memo
1:32:01
drafting, code generation and application development.
1:32:05
I mean, it says something when Apple stock
1:32:08
goes up because they have been very cautious.
1:32:12
And, you know, we're not really we're not
1:32:14
really putting much.
1:32:15
We're going to brand it a little bit
1:32:17
kind of.
1:32:17
But there really has been no no innovation
1:32:21
in technology since the smartphone.
1:32:24
I mean, has there really been anything exciting
1:32:27
and new?
1:32:28
And now it's already all it's Chinese.
1:32:31
You can't run this.
1:32:32
They're spying on you.
1:32:33
Oh, I'm so tired of it.
1:32:35
I'm just tired.
1:32:36
It's funny for the show.
1:32:38
It's funny.
1:32:38
I don't mind that.
1:32:40
Let's just show me something.
1:32:42
Give me my hoverboard.
1:32:44
You know, this constant and hundreds of billions
1:32:48
of dollars.
1:32:49
Just send it to us for the show.
1:32:52
Stop.
1:32:55
You don't understand my my complaint.
1:33:00
No, no, no.
1:33:03
It doesn't understand.
1:33:04
Okay.
1:33:06
It's but I admire it because you're consistent.
1:33:09
Yeah.
1:33:09
I mean, do you you don't vary?
1:33:11
You're not wavering.
1:33:12
Do you use AI or chat GPT in
1:33:16
your daily life regularly?
1:33:17
And do you find it efficient?
1:33:20
Yeah.
1:33:21
Tell me what you use it for.
1:33:22
I told you the one thing I use
1:33:23
instead of search engines.
1:33:24
I'll use perplexity or something.
1:33:26
By the way, when they make mistakes, which
1:33:29
they do, it's obvious because it's just so
1:33:32
you said, what is this?
1:33:33
This is bull crap.
1:33:34
This is not even close to anything that
1:33:36
I am interested in.
1:33:38
Right.
1:33:40
Or it's just office.
1:33:41
This is these numbers aren't accurate.
1:33:43
Then you can go double check them using
1:33:45
a regular search engine.
1:33:46
So you just basically spent the wasted time
1:33:48
and went back and had to do extra
1:33:50
work here.
1:33:51
Now, if I was going to complain about
1:33:53
it, I would say it's the same thing
1:33:55
as the as the the problem you have
1:33:57
with with hand calculator in schools.
1:34:01
Kids don't can't do math in their heads.
1:34:05
And so you go to a grocery store
1:34:07
and you give somebody a two dollar bill
1:34:10
for a buck fifty item and they give
1:34:13
you twenty one dollars and fifty cents in
1:34:15
change because they put it into the machine.
1:34:20
Right.
1:34:21
And so the machine tells them you just
1:34:23
you just gave him two bucks and the
1:34:25
machine tells him to give you twenty one
1:34:27
dollars back and they see that number and
1:34:29
that's what they pull right out of the
1:34:31
till.
1:34:31
This has happened to me more than once.
1:34:34
And this is because nobody's aware of anything.
1:34:38
There's just a lack of awareness.
1:34:39
And I'm fearful that because of the lack
1:34:42
of awareness of reality, at some point, a
1:34:45
certain the next generation coming up with a
1:34:48
disease or whoever comes after them will start
1:34:51
to see this stuff as they'll be unable
1:34:55
to look at a result and say, no,
1:34:57
no, no, this can't be right.
1:34:59
Right.
1:35:00
Which is what you would do at the
1:35:01
cash register.
1:35:02
But that's already that's done.
1:35:03
Everyone.
1:35:03
No one can do it.
1:35:04
They can't.
1:35:04
As I mentioned this on the show before,
1:35:07
I'm at the store and some one kid
1:35:09
who's walking past and he and he says,
1:35:11
oh, it's three o'clock.
1:35:12
We got to get out of here.
1:35:13
And the other kid says to him, oh,
1:35:15
you can read clock.
1:35:19
You can read clock.
1:35:21
It's like Chinese.
1:35:22
You can read Chinese.
1:35:23
You can read clock.
1:35:26
So the kid says, you can read clock.
1:35:28
He says, yeah.
1:35:29
And he said, oh, wow.
1:35:30
And then they leave this on their way.
1:35:32
But when I heard that phrase, I said,
1:35:35
oh, my God, this is not good.
1:35:37
And this is like, you know, people can't
1:35:39
read cursive.
1:35:40
They can't read clock.
1:35:42
And they won't be able to see that
1:35:43
a perplexity result is bull crap.
1:35:48
So that's what my concern is.
1:35:49
Right.
1:35:50
Well, that kind of your your your theory
1:35:52
is that because it's going to deteriorate to
1:35:54
such an extreme that we will get to
1:35:57
my fear.
1:35:58
No.
1:35:58
Well, my hope my hope is that it
1:36:01
deteriorates to an extreme.
1:36:04
So, for instance, so I use chat GPT
1:36:08
because you you question this.
1:36:10
And I said, here was my question.
1:36:12
Find Bible scripture when I'm annoyed by an
1:36:15
older colleague.
1:36:17
And it sends it's very good.
1:36:20
It sends back Leviticus 1932.
1:36:24
Leviticus, the worst.
1:36:25
Stand up in the presence of the aged
1:36:27
show respect for the elderly and revere your
1:36:30
God.
1:36:30
I am the Lord.
1:36:31
There you go.
1:36:32
So that's what Mimi says.
1:36:34
Mimi said that she Adams acting a lot
1:36:37
nicer towards you.
1:36:38
I wonder why.
1:36:39
And I guess because he's become born again.
1:36:41
That's right.
1:36:41
He says, no, that can't be.
1:36:43
But now you have just actually confirmed what
1:36:45
I my theory was.
1:36:46
It is again.
1:36:47
I'm right on the money.
1:36:48
Yeah.
1:36:48
And I didn't need chat GPT to tell
1:36:50
you you are right.
1:36:51
Absolutely.
1:36:52
Be quick to listen.
1:36:53
Slow to speak.
1:36:53
Even slower to get angry.
1:36:55
Yes, that's correct.
1:36:58
I know you get a kick out of
1:37:00
it.
1:37:01
Well, the funny thing is, I actually believe
1:37:03
you did this.
1:37:04
Look up.
1:37:05
Yeah, of course I did.
1:37:06
Of course.
1:37:07
Yeah.
1:37:07
Yeah.
1:37:07
Yeah.
1:37:08
No, I did.
1:37:09
Yeah.
1:37:10
Thanks.
1:37:10
Yeah.
1:37:11
It's good for that.
1:37:12
Let's talk about getting fired because I have
1:37:14
several boots on.
1:37:16
And we have several boots on the ground
1:37:18
reports, which I think are interesting because they
1:37:21
from our audience, because they go a little
1:37:23
bit against the narrative.
1:37:24
We go back to mislead.
1:37:27
It's to beaver regarding the mass federal employee
1:37:31
buyout.
1:37:32
We want to start with the administration's offer
1:37:34
to buy with a mass buyout to federal
1:37:37
employees out there.
1:37:38
How many do you hope will take it?
1:37:40
And by what percentage of the president want
1:37:42
to downside the federal workforce?
1:37:44
Well, good morning, Michael.
1:37:46
It's great to see you.
1:37:47
Thanks for having me on the program.
1:37:48
This is another promise made and kept by
1:37:50
President Trump.
1:37:51
He told the American people on the campaign
1:37:53
trail that he was going to make our
1:37:55
federal government more efficient and productive.
1:37:58
And it is a fact that only 6
1:38:00
% of the federal workforce here in Washington,
1:38:03
DC actually shows up to the office.
1:38:06
That is completely unacceptable.
1:38:08
Middle-class Americans, our teachers, our nurses, our
1:38:11
law enforcement officers who keep this economy working,
1:38:15
show up to the office every single day.
1:38:17
And president Trump expects that federal employees do
1:38:19
the same.
1:38:20
So his order, as presented in that memo
1:38:23
last night, directs federal agencies to come up
1:38:26
with a return to work policy for their
1:38:28
agencies.
1:38:30
And if the federal bureaucrats in this city
1:38:31
don't like that, well, guess what?
1:38:33
They can resign from their positions and this
1:38:35
administration is offering them eight months of pay.
1:38:38
They will be paid through September just to
1:38:40
simply resign from their positions.
1:38:42
Now, what I thought was interesting is that
1:38:44
when, when this this order came out kind
1:38:47
of the same day, I kept receiving emails
1:38:49
from people saying, keep me anonymous.
1:38:51
This is going around.
1:38:52
Yeah.
1:38:53
I took the memo that you, you had
1:38:56
it too.
1:38:56
Yeah.
1:38:57
Somebody sent us the entire memo.
1:38:59
I cut and pasted the appropriate part and
1:39:01
put it in the last newsletter that a
1:39:03
lot of people didn't get because they're not
1:39:05
complaining to spam assassin that the newsletter is
1:39:08
not showing up, but it was in there.
1:39:10
You could read it yourself if you were.
1:39:12
Yeah.
1:39:12
But my, my point here is that it
1:39:14
was, it was policy.
1:39:16
It wasn't like some secret thing, but this
1:39:18
is, this is kind of how broken the
1:39:21
whole system is.
1:39:22
I agree.
1:39:23
So here's boots on the ground.
1:39:25
Adam, I have to wait.
1:39:26
Memo is out there.
1:39:26
I mean, what?
1:39:28
Anonymous.
1:39:28
Okay.
1:39:29
I have to weigh in on all this
1:39:30
stuff happening with Trump and the federal workforce,
1:39:32
mostly because this is complete bullcrap fork in
1:39:34
the road.
1:39:35
That was the title of the email fork
1:39:36
in the road.
1:39:37
Okay.
1:39:38
Here it is.
1:39:39
I work, I work from home and I
1:39:41
work my ass off and a lot of
1:39:43
us do.
1:39:43
I'm a team lead HR specialist for CBP
1:39:47
customs, border patrol.
1:39:48
I don't mind going to work every day
1:39:50
in person, but can we have a little
1:39:51
respect?
1:39:52
There's a ton of waste systems that don't
1:39:54
work lazy and overpaid people.
1:39:56
Things need to change, but getting people to
1:39:59
quit isn't actually going to fix the problem.
1:40:01
It's literally just a publicity stunt.
1:40:03
I cut down the federal government.
1:40:05
No, you got a bunch of people quit
1:40:07
because you didn't fix anything.
1:40:09
We're just going to hire everyone back.
1:40:11
I guess I'm really frustrated because they just
1:40:13
introduced a new HR payroll system at CBP.
1:40:16
That's a complete failure.
1:40:18
We have to go with the new system
1:40:19
because we spent too much already.
1:40:22
Pay gets delayed.
1:40:22
Our hands are tied due to system glitches.
1:40:25
No one is going to be held accountable.
1:40:27
It's all bull crap.
1:40:28
And we on the lowest, on the lower
1:40:30
level are left to take the blame for
1:40:32
leadership and programmers bad work.
1:40:34
So as much as I don't regret voting
1:40:36
for Trump, don't talk to me about forks
1:40:38
in the road and the self-righteous bull
1:40:41
crap.
1:40:41
It's a publicity stunt.
1:40:42
I lived through the VAX mandate.
1:40:44
I'll live through this because people still need
1:40:46
to get paid and someone needs to sort
1:40:48
through people's mistakes, mistakes made by the higher
1:40:50
ups that we got blamed for draining the
1:40:52
swamp, my ass.
1:40:54
It should be steady and meticulous.
1:40:55
I see waste every day.
1:40:56
Maybe they should ask me, but insulting your
1:40:59
whole workforce and getting people to quit won't
1:41:01
change anything.
1:41:01
It's a scam.
1:41:05
I think we need doge, doge to the
1:41:07
rescue.
1:41:08
Wow.
1:41:10
That's a guy's on a roll, but there
1:41:12
is a girl.
1:41:12
Actually, this is, um, well, she's good.
1:41:15
Well, I think she makes a good point.
1:41:17
It's like what you need.
1:41:18
You need it.
1:41:19
You need a suggestion box.
1:41:22
She likes working at home.
1:41:24
And I, I, I was waiting for your,
1:41:26
for your, uh, analysis of this.
1:41:30
She likes working at home and now she's
1:41:32
irked because it was, it's been going on
1:41:35
for years now.
1:41:36
And it's like, if you can't, I know
1:41:38
again, talking about, you mentioned earlier, the substat
1:41:41
columns, you go to dvorak.substack.com.
1:41:43
There's an old column.
1:41:44
I wrote about a year or two ago
1:41:46
about how working at home is not what
1:41:48
it's cracked up to be.
1:41:49
Cause I've been doing it most of my
1:41:50
life and I know how it works and
1:41:52
I know why, why it works and why
1:41:54
it doesn't work and why some people can
1:41:55
do it and some people can't.
1:41:57
And it's overrated.
1:41:58
And so you still wake up grumpy, whether
1:42:02
you're working from home or not.
1:42:04
So the point, but I can see her
1:42:06
position.
1:42:07
She's like, you know, she's got it all
1:42:10
worked out.
1:42:11
She's doing a good job.
1:42:12
But a lot of people, I mean, most
1:42:13
public relations people nowadays work from home and
1:42:16
they don't have the big offices anymore.
1:42:18
And in some, it's a good way to
1:42:20
save money cause you don't have to offices.
1:42:22
You have to, you know, people have to,
1:42:24
you know, they don't have a coffee machine.
1:42:26
They have coffee at the house.
1:42:28
Uh, there's a lot of benefits to it,
1:42:30
but at the same time, uh, and I
1:42:32
think a publicity stunt idea is not bad.
1:42:34
I have two clips, one which goes beyond
1:42:38
the publicity stunt, but I want you to
1:42:40
play your rap.
1:42:42
This, if you got more before I play
1:42:43
these two.
1:42:44
No, I want to come back to your
1:42:46
working at home and your grumpiness, but I'll
1:42:48
do that after your clips.
1:42:49
That'll be fine.
1:42:50
Well, the first is just the general clip,
1:42:52
which I thought was the classic, you know,
1:42:55
background or, and this is the worker buyouts
1:42:57
NTD clip.
1:42:59
The Trump administration is offering substantial buyouts to
1:43:02
federal workers as part of a plan to
1:43:04
drastically shrink the government.
1:43:06
And it is Daniel Monahan has for on
1:43:09
the so-called deferred resignation program.
1:43:12
The program allows federal employees to stay on
1:43:15
the payroll until September 30th without having to
1:43:18
work.
1:43:19
A mass email was sent to federal workers,
1:43:21
giving them until February 6th to decide whether
1:43:24
to participate.
1:43:25
The unprecedented message instructed those interested to simply
1:43:29
reply with the word resign.
1:43:31
The offer applies to most civilian employees, excluding
1:43:35
those in immigration, national security, and the postal
1:43:38
service.
1:43:39
The government currently employs around 2.3 million
1:43:42
civilian workers, not counting postal employees.
1:43:45
The email warns that those who decline the
1:43:48
offer should expect a shift toward a more
1:43:50
streamlined workforce based on four key pillars, return
1:43:54
to office, ending remote work, performance culture, implementing
1:43:59
updated standards to reward top performers while addressing
1:44:03
those who fail to meet expectations, more streamlined
1:44:07
and flexible workforce, downsizing federal agencies through restructuring,
1:44:11
realignments and layoffs, and enhanced standards of conduct,
1:44:16
tightening workplace rules.
1:44:17
Now that I'm thinking about this, wouldn't it
1:44:21
be better instead of complaining to a podcast,
1:44:24
which I appreciate, by the way, to take
1:44:27
the buyout and then go public about these
1:44:30
horrible systems?
1:44:32
Say, you know, I have something good to
1:44:33
get on TikTok and say, you know, there's
1:44:37
a problem with what's going on.
1:44:38
I mean, it's a good rant, but you
1:44:41
should just take the money and then be
1:44:42
a whistleblower.
1:44:44
I mean, I guess you can do that
1:44:45
or maybe not.
1:44:45
I don't know.
1:44:46
I think you can.
1:44:47
I don't think they're giving you a non
1:44:48
-disparagement clause to sign.
1:44:50
But I think people should go public with
1:44:52
this.
1:44:53
What she said is important.
1:44:54
If there's a payroll problem, then we got
1:44:57
to fix that.
1:44:59
It's possible she won't get her money.
1:45:02
Here's the deal.
1:45:03
Now, this is a local report from WAMU,
1:45:07
which I think is American University, public radio
1:45:10
station in D.C., and they bring in
1:45:12
that maniac, Tim Kaine, who has a whole
1:45:15
theory about this, which I've not heard anyplace
1:45:18
else yet, but I think it could catch
1:45:20
on.
1:45:21
This is the Trump layoff scheme.
1:45:23
The pressure from President Donald Trump is mounting
1:45:26
on federal workers to return to the office
1:45:28
full-time or quit.
1:45:30
Last night, the Office of Personnel Management circulated
1:45:33
a letter to federal workers.
1:45:35
The letter offered, quote, deferred resignation to any
1:45:38
federal worker who would take the offer by
1:45:41
February 6th.
1:45:42
The offer would allow workers to continue receiving
1:45:45
their full benefits and pay through September 30th.
1:45:49
An OPM spokesperson says employees that accept the
1:45:52
deferred resignation would be put on administrative leave
1:45:55
until they depart.
1:45:56
Virginia Senator Tim Kaine, speaking on the Senate
1:45:58
floor, called it a classic move in the
1:46:01
president's business playbook.
1:46:03
Yeah, the president has tried to terrorize you
1:46:05
for about a week and then gives you
1:46:06
a little sweetheart offer.
1:46:08
If you resign in the next week, we're
1:46:10
just going to pay you for doing nothing
1:46:11
for the next seven months.
1:46:13
Don't be fooled.
1:46:15
He's tricked hundreds of people with that offer.
1:46:18
If you accept that offer and resign, he'll
1:46:21
stiff you just like he stiffed the contractors.
1:46:23
You don't have any authority to do this.
1:46:26
Kaine added that Congress has not approved a
1:46:28
budget item for such a move.
1:46:30
Oh.
1:46:32
Whoa.
1:46:33
A little twist.
1:46:34
Well, yeah.
1:46:35
That seems like that would be a bad
1:46:38
look if he did that.
1:46:39
I don't think this is good.
1:46:40
Yeah, I agree.
1:46:41
Bad look.
1:46:41
Tim Kaine is nuts.
1:46:44
But I liked him throwing it in.
1:46:46
If you want to throw a wrench in
1:46:47
the works and you want to create fear
1:46:49
and doubt, you throw something like that out.
1:46:53
I have a procedural issue I'd like to
1:46:58
discuss, just briefly, since we both work from
1:47:02
home and I don't have an HR department
1:47:04
to complain to, although you do our payroll,
1:47:08
which I appreciate.
1:47:10
When I forward an email to you, I
1:47:13
forward an email to you.
1:47:15
Yeah.
1:47:16
You have this habit.
1:47:18
It's happened three times.
1:47:21
I know exactly what you're going to complain
1:47:22
about.
1:47:23
And then you will reply to me and
1:47:25
cc the original person with my comment to
1:47:30
you.
1:47:30
That is a total breach of netiquette and
1:47:33
protocol.
1:47:42
That's your response?
1:47:49
I'm not...
1:47:51
Is that what you expected me to say?
1:47:52
No, no.
1:47:54
I knew that I'd been doing this, but
1:47:56
I don't know that I didn't know, and
1:47:59
I apologize for this, that I'm including your
1:48:03
little one-on-one gripe, because that's a
1:48:06
back channel the way I see it.
1:48:08
Yes.
1:48:09
And I should not be putting that in
1:48:11
there.
1:48:11
It should have been taken out.
1:48:12
But most of the time it goes like
1:48:13
this.
1:48:14
You do something and you send it to
1:48:16
me and then I'll send a note.
1:48:17
I'm sorry, my time is limited.
1:48:18
It's a yes or no answer.
1:48:24
That is the end of that.
1:48:26
I will be careful in the future, because
1:48:29
that is a huge mistake on my part.
1:48:32
But you took the time to copy and
1:48:34
paste.
1:48:34
I don't think you had to be made
1:48:35
public that I'm a doofus, but okay, thank
1:48:38
you.
1:48:38
Thank you for pointing this out in public.
1:48:41
You take the time to copy and paste
1:48:43
and then berate the person.
1:48:46
And it was a simple meme, because you
1:48:49
were grumpy.
1:48:49
You did end with, I woke up grumpy.
1:48:52
And I said, hey, maybe something for the
1:48:54
newsletter.
1:48:55
And then you wrote this substack-length email
1:48:58
about why this meme was no good.
1:49:01
So it wasn't a huge problem.
1:49:03
But yeah, I found it interesting.
1:49:06
No one has ever done that to me
1:49:07
but you.
1:49:09
So it's okay.
1:49:10
Okay, now I know to which specific email
1:49:14
you're referring to.
1:49:15
I did not think that this may be
1:49:17
a good, for the newsletter comment, was a
1:49:21
back-channel comment that was so secretive that
1:49:24
I couldn't leave it in there.
1:49:26
No, I'm using that example.
1:49:28
The other ones are irrelevant.
1:49:30
But it just makes me weird.
1:49:31
But okay, noted.
1:49:36
Wow, you might just say, F you, it's
1:49:38
noted.
1:49:40
You have taught me well, Dvorak.
1:49:42
I know all the tricks, I really do.
1:49:44
I really do.
1:49:45
No, I just, anyway, we're done.
1:49:48
Apology accepted, it's no problem.
1:49:50
But you know, I am kind of your
1:49:51
secretary.
1:49:52
You know, it's like I get all the
1:49:53
emails for you.
1:49:54
You know, Johnson, Johnson, Johnson, Johnson.
1:49:57
Would you please email John?
1:49:58
I like the last, you got one recently,
1:50:00
you forwarded, it said, I'm writing this to
1:50:03
you because I can't spell Dvorak's name.
1:50:07
It's on the website.
1:50:09
It's on every album art.
1:50:12
It says Dvorak and Curry, every single album
1:50:15
art's got my name spelled.
1:50:17
It was the same as the sub stack
1:50:21
from our Wall Street guy, Angel of Smyrna.
1:50:25
And I spelled it five times in the
1:50:27
podcast during the donation segment.
1:50:30
And people like, eh, I went to bingo
1:50:32
.io and I couldn't find it.
1:50:34
Like, no, you didn't.
1:50:35
You're just lazy, you want me to look
1:50:37
up a link for you.
1:50:39
That's what it is.
1:50:40
It's all right.
1:50:41
We do it as a public service.
1:50:43
We do all of this as a public
1:50:44
service and we're happy to.
1:50:46
We're happy to because I would, I could
1:50:48
not imagine doing anything different or with anyone
1:50:50
else, John.
1:50:51
So just so you know, I love doing
1:50:54
this.
1:50:54
Did that come out of the biblical thing
1:50:56
too?
1:50:56
It sure did.
1:50:58
Approach everyone with kindness, gentleness, and love.
1:51:01
There you go.
1:51:01
And with that, I want to thank you
1:51:02
for your courage saying the morning to you,
1:51:04
the man who put the sea in the
1:51:05
cow eggs.
1:51:06
Say hello to my friend on the other
1:51:08
end, the one, the only, Mr. John C.
1:51:11
DeVore!
1:51:14
Yeah, well, in the morning to you, Mr.
1:51:16
Abercrombie, we're going to ship sea boots on
1:51:17
the ground, feed in the air subs, and
1:51:18
we're one of the names of nights out
1:51:19
there.
1:51:20
In the morning to the patrols in the
1:51:21
patrol room.
1:51:22
Let me count you all for a second.
1:51:23
There we go.
1:51:25
Now, just because it's our, we do it
1:51:29
every single, every single show.
1:51:31
What is normal for a Thursday?
1:51:34
Is it 1800?
1:51:36
Thursday, 1800, yeah.
1:51:37
Okay, 2298.
1:51:40
Yeah, that's good.
1:51:40
That's like a low Sunday number.
1:51:42
But you know why?
1:51:43
I wonder what they're going to say about
1:51:45
Runway 33.
1:51:46
Yeah, Runway 33.
1:51:48
Which should be the title of the show.
1:51:50
Runway 33.
1:51:51
Runway 33.
1:51:52
It's kind of, kind of gruesome, and maybe
1:51:54
a little bit too early.
1:51:55
Not necessarily.
1:51:56
A little bit too early for it.
1:51:58
But that is, that is kind of true,
1:52:00
though.
1:52:00
You know, people are so used to the
1:52:01
algo chasers.
1:52:03
You know, it's like, oh, I got to
1:52:04
check in and see what those guys are
1:52:06
saying about it.
1:52:06
Oh, I got to go to the YouTube
1:52:07
and see what Tim Pool's saying.
1:52:08
Oh, what does Megyn Kelly say about it?
1:52:11
By the way, did you see, notice that
1:52:13
Megyn Kelly was at the Kennedy hearing sitting
1:52:16
right behind Sheryl Hines?
1:52:18
No, I didn't see that.
1:52:19
I saw Sheryl.
1:52:20
I didn't see, Megyn was there?
1:52:22
Yes, she was sitting right in the row,
1:52:24
right behind her.
1:52:25
And it was only from, I forgot which
1:52:27
feed I got this from.
1:52:27
Because the feed that you saw on C
1:52:29
-SPAN didn't show it.
1:52:31
But if you went to NBC or somebody
1:52:33
else, you could see her.
1:52:34
She was sitting right there.
1:52:36
And the way the shot was done, it
1:52:38
was like, might as well have been a
1:52:40
shot of Megyn Kelly.
1:52:41
Interesting.
1:52:41
So she was there.
1:52:43
Hmm.
1:52:44
Meanwhile.
1:52:45
Yeah, I thought that was interesting.
1:52:46
All she's talking about is the Ryan Reynolds
1:52:48
wife and that actor dude who she did
1:52:51
the movie with, that they're suing or whatever,
1:52:53
and all kinds of nonsense.
1:52:54
You're talking about Blake Lively?
1:52:56
Yes, Blake, you know about this.
1:52:58
Who cares?
1:53:00
You know, I was going to do a
1:53:02
series of clips for today's show, actually.
1:53:05
Who cares?
1:53:06
But I was going to do, I went
1:53:08
to page six of the post, and they
1:53:10
have this video feed that goes on and
1:53:12
on, and they're talking about this person and
1:53:14
that person.
1:53:15
And I was going to just start clipping
1:53:17
it, because I know you were going to
1:53:20
do the same.
1:53:20
I have never heard of any of these
1:53:23
people.
1:53:23
Well, I saw the movie.
1:53:26
It's quite a good movie, actually.
1:53:28
And Blake Lively is married to Ryan Reynolds.
1:53:31
And by the way, Candace Owens is all,
1:53:34
I mean, it's like, look at the world
1:53:36
around you.
1:53:38
It's like, well, but they're digging, you know
1:53:41
what?
1:53:41
It's their niche.
1:53:42
Let them go.
1:53:43
It's good.
1:53:44
Let them do that.
1:53:45
So they're not cruising around in our lane.
1:53:49
Get out of here.
1:53:50
Get out of here, Megan.
1:53:52
She's a lawyer.
1:53:53
She loves this stuff.
1:53:55
A family lawyer.
1:53:56
Yeah, it's hard not to.
1:53:58
Yeah, she loves this stuff.
1:54:01
Thank you, Trolls, for being here.
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Trollroom.io and, of course, the modern podcast
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apps.
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Go to podcastapps.com with an S and
1:54:11
get one of those, because it has a
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1:54:15
we go live, which, you know, you can
1:54:16
stick your earbuds in and listen at the
1:54:19
office.
1:54:20
Oh, I'm sorry.
1:54:20
You're working from home.
1:54:21
Even better.
1:54:22
Why don't you just, sorry, I can't work
1:54:24
right now.
1:54:24
I'm listening to the boys, hearing what they're
1:54:26
saying about Runway 33.
1:54:27
It's very important stuff.
1:54:29
Of course, it has all of the fabulous
1:54:31
chapters with art, which Dreb sets up for
1:54:34
us.
1:54:34
You can actually skip around the topics.
1:54:36
Like, yeah, remember they're talking, you want to
1:54:37
play something for someone.
1:54:39
Here, here, here.
1:54:39
This here.
1:54:40
Boom.
1:54:40
Click on it.
1:54:41
Done.
1:54:41
It's good.
1:54:42
I think in this segment, we might as
1:54:44
well read the note from Nestworks.
1:54:46
Yeah, I was going to get to that.
1:54:49
Nestworks won the, and so we're going to,
1:54:51
you jumped the gun a little bit, because
1:54:53
I need to say the words value for
1:54:54
value, because that's how we, how we function
1:54:58
here.
1:54:59
We have no HR department to complain to,
1:55:01
because, you know, it's all value for value.
1:55:03
It's just John, Adam, a little bit of
1:55:05
Mimi, a little bit of Jay, a little
1:55:07
bit of Tina.
1:55:08
Jay is sick, by the way.
1:55:09
We should.
1:55:10
Oh, what's wrong?
1:55:11
Have some, I don't know.
1:55:12
She's got some horrible cold or something.
1:55:14
She can barely talk.
1:55:15
Is it, is she coughing?
1:55:16
Is it her, is it in the chest?
1:55:17
Because there's a lot of.
1:55:18
A little coughing.
1:55:19
Yeah.
1:55:19
Everyone's coughing.
1:55:20
Mimi had something to.
1:55:21
Could be tuberculosis.
1:55:22
You know, there's a lot of that going
1:55:23
around.
1:55:23
That's only in what?
1:55:25
In Kansas, I think.
1:55:27
Is it Kansas?
1:55:27
All right.
1:55:28
Well, good.
1:55:28
Well, I'm sorry.
1:55:29
I'm sorry.
1:55:30
Feel better, Jay.
1:55:31
She didn't mention it.
1:55:32
She just sent me the spreadsheet and went.
1:55:34
No, she doesn't.
1:55:34
She's not a complainer.
1:55:36
She is not a complainer.
1:55:37
That, she is the best employee we have,
1:55:40
which is great, because she's the only employee
1:55:43
we have.
1:55:43
Yeah, pretty much.
1:55:45
Yeah, she's great.
1:55:47
So, yes, value for value, time, talent, or
1:55:49
treasure, and the artist, and this kind of
1:55:51
falls, flows into a lot of different conversations
1:55:53
we're having, because this was not an AI
1:55:55
artwork piece that we chose for episode, let
1:55:59
me go to it, 1733.
1:56:03
We titled that one Rat Note.
1:56:05
Rat Note, and this was the code that
1:56:08
we uncovered, Cute Winter Boots, and it was
1:56:10
a duck with some cute winter boots, and
1:56:13
it was just the best piece, and there's
1:56:16
no doubt about it.
1:56:17
Before we, I'd read that note from Nestworks,
1:56:19
because Nestworks is the one who did it.
1:56:21
Now, was there anything else that we looked
1:56:23
at that we, that came close for us?
1:56:25
There were a lot of winter boots.
1:56:27
A lot of people tried to do cute
1:56:28
winter boots.
1:56:28
We kind of liked, Comix or Blogger had
1:56:32
a piece that reminded us of Mad Magazine,
1:56:35
which is probably where the original was stolen
1:56:37
from by AI.
1:56:42
What else was there?
1:56:43
Was there anything?
1:56:45
Season of Reveal from Darren O'Neill was
1:56:47
cute, but it was like, eh, you know.
1:56:51
He just takes the same prompt and just
1:56:54
changes the term, and it kind of pops
1:56:57
out that way.
1:57:00
Are you looking at all, or are you
1:57:01
just letting me talk into space here?
1:57:05
You've muted yourself, so we can't hear you.
1:57:09
I'm back.
1:57:10
It's illegal in many states.
1:57:11
No, what happens was when I click on
1:57:13
the art, sometimes if the arrow's in the
1:57:17
wrong spot, it clicks on the other window,
1:57:23
the little arrow.
1:57:24
The little arrow, and you click on the
1:57:26
window.
1:57:27
It mutes me, and then I don't know
1:57:29
until you complain.
1:57:31
Your hand-eye coordination is interesting.
1:57:35
Yeah, no, I was talking about Darren.
1:57:38
Oh, the Season of Reveal, yeah.
1:57:39
Yeah, he's got, I guess, one series of
1:57:42
prompts that developed this particular.
1:57:44
This started off as a circle, and somehow
1:57:46
he squared it.
1:57:47
Yeah, we just said make it a square,
1:57:49
whatever.
1:57:51
And most of the AI stuff was typically
1:57:53
boring.
1:57:54
And my favorite was Peter Knopfhart, who had
1:57:59
the cheerleader, and the pom-poms are hanging
1:58:04
in space like they're stuck to her armpit
1:58:06
hair.
1:58:07
And her arms are very short, if you
1:58:09
look objectively.
1:58:10
Yeah, her arms are short.
1:58:11
It's the worst possible example of AI.
1:58:14
The entropy has set in.
1:58:16
It's obvious.
1:58:18
Because this originally, of course, was a Scaramanga
1:58:20
piece, and now it's just making it worse.
1:58:23
A copy of a copy of a copy
1:58:24
of a copy.
1:58:27
A lot of cute winter boots.
1:58:29
But, yeah, this was good.
1:58:33
I think we even said, is this AI?
1:58:35
Do you think it's AI?
1:58:36
I don't know.
1:58:37
And I think, if I recall, you said
1:58:39
there's probably elements of AI.
1:58:41
However, if we read the note, and this
1:58:43
is a very nice note, and artists will
1:58:45
feel happy about this.
1:58:48
But, Devore, just to say, there's a cute
1:58:50
little thing I didn't notice before, but if
1:58:52
you notice his no agenda, the no is
1:58:54
on the duck hat.
1:58:56
Yes.
1:58:57
As though it was like a logo on
1:58:58
the hat.
1:58:59
Yeah.
1:59:00
Yeah, it's cute.
1:59:01
Yeah, because he's a pro.
1:59:03
Yeah.
1:59:03
Feels awesome to get back on the board.
1:59:06
Show 1733 with cute winter boots.
1:59:07
Just a bit of a back story in
1:59:09
the piece.
1:59:09
I'd originally worked on this duck piece a
1:59:11
couple years ago, pre-AI.
1:59:13
There was a backlash regarding security with DuckDuckGo,
1:59:16
hence the orange circle theme I was going
1:59:18
with, and I wanted to title the piece
1:59:20
DuckDuckNo.
1:59:21
Funny.
1:59:22
I was inspired by the classic cartoon clip
1:59:24
art look and based the piece on a
1:59:26
mallard duck asset from iStockPhoto.
1:59:28
The reason I chose the iStock asset was
1:59:30
because it reminded me of Donald Duck, but
1:59:32
it wasn't Donald Duck as pertained to copyright,
1:59:34
et cetera.
1:59:35
I was working on developing my outline and
1:59:37
brush skills on the iPad in Procreate and
1:59:39
recreated the main duck graphic.
1:59:42
The topic did not get covered on the
1:59:43
show, so I archived the .png graphic I
1:59:47
created for a possible future use.
1:59:48
This is what artists do.
1:59:51
All artists do this.
1:59:52
A friend of mine was a graphic designer,
1:59:55
and he had so many cows, smiling cows,
2:00:00
backed up that if you needed a cow,
2:00:03
whatever cow you wanted, he had them from
2:00:05
years ago.
2:00:08
They archived their work.
2:00:11
When I heard the topic of cute winter
2:00:13
boots on Sunday, I thought it would be
2:00:14
funny to have the duck holding a shotgun,
2:00:16
sporting a trucker's hat, and wearing a pair
2:00:18
of oversized Timberlands.
2:00:20
Cute winter boots.
2:00:21
Using cute winter boots to try to confuse
2:00:22
the algorithm.
2:00:23
You're a quack, LOL.
2:00:25
I modified my original duck graphic in Photoshop,
2:00:27
adding the shotgun, adding the boots asset, modifying
2:00:30
the hands on the rifle, and adding the
2:00:31
text.
2:00:32
I mainly use Photoshop for graphic asset manipulation,
2:00:36
layered art design, and occasionally use a custom
2:00:38
cartoonizer program.
2:00:39
Oh, fake news!
2:00:41
To achieve a unique look and draw out
2:00:43
pieces on my iPad when I have time.
2:00:45
I have not dove, dove, I think, I
2:00:48
did not dive into the world of AI
2:00:49
prompts as of yet.
2:00:50
I dig some of it.
2:00:52
I'm always blown away by Darren Francisco's and
2:00:55
CSB's AI skills.
2:00:56
I think y'all have nailed it in
2:00:58
the art segment.
2:00:58
It still comes down to executing an idea.
2:01:01
Darren is so funny, talented, and creative, it
2:01:04
shines through in his pieces.
2:01:05
Mm-hmm.
2:01:06
Scaramanga is brilliant for boobs.
2:01:11
It's impressive to me that he is...
2:01:13
What?
2:01:14
Yeah, but he's concerned with kind of the
2:01:16
dimensionality and sound, specifically the...
2:01:22
Scaramanga?
2:01:23
Dynamic range.
2:01:24
Oh, the dynamic range.
2:01:26
It's impressive to me that he has created
2:01:28
and cultivated a style, humor, and design look
2:01:30
that when you see a Scaramanga piece, you
2:01:32
know it's a Scaramanga piece.
2:01:34
Good point.
2:01:34
Yeah, tits.
2:01:36
Capitalist's agenda is amazing, and I admire his
2:01:38
drawing skills, creativity, and humorous ideas.
2:01:41
Mike Riley and Roundy, they're gone.
2:01:43
No, Riley posts sometimes as well, when they
2:01:46
decide to post on the Art Generator.
2:01:47
I was initially hit in the mouth approximately
2:01:48
five years ago by my buddy Serdino, the
2:01:51
monkey boy with curly hair.
2:01:52
He gave me some sage advice regarding the
2:01:54
Art Generator.
2:01:55
Here it is.
2:01:56
Sage advice.
2:01:57
Strive to design a piece around a show
2:01:59
subject that you might think will best represent
2:02:02
the show that day, which is exactly what
2:02:05
I tried to do with AI on the
2:02:07
last show, and it came up with garbage.
2:02:10
And he finishes by saying, shout out to
2:02:11
the No Agenda artists who are talented at
2:02:13
creating pieces on the fly during show days.
2:02:15
Tontanil, Kenny Ben, Capitalist's Agenda, Darren O, Scaramanga,
2:02:18
Corrector Records, CSB, Nick the Rat, and many
2:02:20
more.
2:02:21
I enjoy the competition and respect my fellow
2:02:23
NA artists.
2:02:24
I take pride in participating in the V
2:02:26
for V process for the show and always
2:02:28
feel fortunate when honored with a selection.
2:02:30
Also, as a No Agenda artist, it's cool
2:02:32
to check the show chapters in a podcasting
2:02:34
2.0 app and see if a piece
2:02:36
is used.
2:02:37
Hating that y'all have been dealing with
2:02:38
some negativity in reference to the art segment,
2:02:41
I wanted to send some positivity your way.
2:02:44
Love you guys.
2:02:45
Nesswork.
2:02:46
Yeah, there you go.
2:02:47
That is a great note.
2:02:48
That is.
2:02:48
It sums it up completely.
2:02:49
A little long.
2:02:50
A little long.
2:02:50
It's an artist.
2:02:52
They're not writers.
2:02:53
That's just how it is.
2:02:55
They're not writers, man.
2:02:57
They're not writers.
2:02:58
All right.
2:02:59
Now we go to the treasure portion of
2:03:01
the Value for Value, and we want to
2:03:02
thank everybody who supported us with $50 or
2:03:05
above.
2:03:06
And in this case, like every single show,
2:03:08
we stop and give special attention to people
2:03:11
who donate $200 or more.
2:03:13
We give them the title of Associate Executive
2:03:15
Producer, which is a real title.
2:03:17
You can use it anywhere where these are
2:03:20
recognized, these are credits, Hollywood credits, such as
2:03:25
imdb.com.
2:03:26
So we will read your note as well.
2:03:27
$300 or above, and you get an Executive
2:03:30
Producer credit.
2:03:31
Same hold, same applies.
2:03:33
Whoa.
2:03:35
Why did I get a pew?
2:03:37
Valid everywhere.
2:03:39
Hold on a second.
2:03:40
Who is that?
2:03:41
Studio Two Rocks.
2:03:42
Okay.
2:03:42
Let me just mute that.
2:03:43
There we go.
2:03:45
And we start off.
2:03:46
That pew, by the way, is the same
2:03:47
reason I mute the thing by accident.
2:03:50
No, the pew comes from something else.
2:03:54
Hey, we start off with a Rub-A
2:03:57
-Lizer donation.
2:03:58
Here we go.
2:03:59
India.
2:04:00
Hang out.
2:04:01
Mike.
2:04:02
Stand by.
2:04:03
33.
2:04:04
33.
2:04:05
33.
2:04:07
Rub-A-Lizer out.
2:04:09
And this is from the Archduke of Central
2:04:11
Florida.
2:04:12
He says, Rub-A-Lizer donation 333.3.
2:04:16
Wait, 3333.33. It's a massive, massive support
2:04:21
for the show.
2:04:22
Rub-A-Lizer donation from the Archduke of
2:04:24
Central Florida.
2:04:25
Sorry, no $2 bills like Seronomous.
2:04:28
Really appreciate the work you guys put in,
2:04:30
even working on a holiday like Inauguration Eve.
2:04:33
Sure, you had some invites to the balls,
2:04:35
and you didn't go.
2:04:36
There you go.
2:04:37
Should be some interesting activity over the next
2:04:39
couple of years for you to dissect and
2:04:41
deconstruct.
2:04:41
We will be looking forward to it.
2:04:43
No jingles, no karma.
2:04:44
He says, five more years, Archduke of Central
2:04:48
Florida.
2:04:49
All right.
2:04:49
That's a new one, five more years.
2:04:51
Thank you very much.
2:04:52
We appreciate that highly.
2:04:55
Onward.
2:04:56
That was very nice, yes.
2:04:58
Super nice.
2:04:59
Aaron Cole in Watsonville, California, 1111.77, which
2:05:06
is $1,000 plus fees, I'm guessing.
2:05:09
Although that's a lot of fees.
2:05:10
That's a lot of fees.
2:05:12
No, that's over 10%.
2:05:13
That's got to be something else.
2:05:16
Adam and John, listening since 2009, best podcast
2:05:19
in the universe.
2:05:23
Finally time to finish my knighthood and come
2:05:25
in with a big thank you.
2:05:27
First donation was for the 200 Club.
2:05:29
Yeah, the old 200 Club.
2:05:31
Yeah, remember that, the 200 Club, sure.
2:05:33
That was very successful, by the way.
2:05:36
This podcast has been a pillar for information
2:05:38
for years and has been great for me.
2:05:41
The other douchebags that I've been able to
2:05:44
drag along, helping center ourselves in chaos, pulls
2:05:49
immense value.
2:05:51
I'll have Adam's brisket and some bourbon at
2:05:54
the round table.
2:05:55
Do you have any left?
2:05:56
It was a good brisket.
2:05:57
Yeah, I got some left.
2:05:58
Knight name, Sir Aaron Cole of the Strawberry
2:06:02
Fog.
2:06:04
Jingle, if it's not too much.
2:06:06
Well, not with this donation.
2:06:08
Climate Gate with the violin and birds.
2:06:13
WTC7 won't go away.
2:06:15
You're going to die.
2:06:17
P.S. Heading up to get John out
2:06:20
of the house meetup this weekend in the
2:06:22
Bay Area.
2:06:22
I'll see you there.
2:06:24
Looking forward to it.
2:06:27
To the gate, to the gate, to the
2:06:29
climate gate.
2:06:37
WTC7 won't go away.
2:06:40
You might die.
2:06:42
There you go.
2:06:42
Nice sequence.
2:06:43
Thank you.
2:06:45
Earl Christopher is in Marshfield, Wisconsin, and he
2:06:48
sends in 543.21 plus fees, and his
2:06:53
note is awesome, no jingles, no karma.
2:06:55
Thank you very much.
2:06:58
Speedy Bubble in Cholula, Florida.
2:07:02
Speedy Bubble, yes.
2:07:03
Speedy Bubble.
2:07:04
Speedy Bubble.
2:07:05
Adam, this is for the 33rd day sobriety
2:07:07
chip per our email exchange.
2:07:12
Yes.
2:07:13
Please.
2:07:14
Well, yes.
2:07:14
What he said was he wanted to set
2:07:17
up a 33-day sobriety chip.
2:07:20
This is for Nussbaum, our Grand Duke.
2:07:25
Ah, yes.
2:07:26
And he said, you know, I want, and
2:07:28
he didn't put it in his email, but
2:07:30
I think he is donating for the 33
2:07:33
sobriety chip for Nussbaum, so there's your chip,
2:07:39
and you can continue.
2:07:42
What is he talking about?
2:07:42
Well, it's a chip from Alcoholics Anonymous, you
2:07:45
know, the sobriety chip.
2:07:46
I don't know.
2:07:47
You wouldn't know.
2:07:48
Please encourage others to donate in kind.
2:07:51
I also love the 1911 and own more
2:07:53
than one of them.
2:07:55
I'm not familiar with the platypus, but we'll
2:07:58
be inquiring.
2:07:59
You cannot have too many guns.
2:08:02
I can't wait to fire this thing.
2:08:04
It's quite amazing.
2:08:06
Yes.
2:08:07
It was stealth arms.
2:08:08
Yeah.
2:08:09
The platypus.
2:08:10
It's the 380, right?
2:08:11
No, no.
2:08:11
It's a 9 mil, and it takes the
2:08:13
double stack.
2:08:15
Oh, that's right, because it takes 17 rounds.
2:08:17
Yeah.
2:08:18
So you can really do some damage, man.
2:08:21
Sir Digi is in Indianapolis, Indiana, 35093, from
2:08:24
Sir Digi.
2:08:25
Thank you for your courage.
2:08:26
Adam, I was recently baptized.
2:08:28
I want to say that hearing your story
2:08:29
has helped me on my journey to getting
2:08:31
to know Jesus.
2:08:32
Thank you for reminding us that his peace
2:08:34
he left, that his peace he left, reminding
2:08:38
us of his peace, I guess, that he
2:08:40
left with us.
2:08:41
Yes.
2:08:41
And I recommend you look up scriptures on
2:08:43
ChatGPT.
2:08:45
It's good for it.
2:08:46
And ask for the Baptist pastor voice.
2:08:51
Jay Gordon, Chicago, 333.33. In the morning,
2:08:54
John and Adam, please accept this humble treasure
2:08:56
from the mean streets of downtown Chi-town.
2:09:00
Oh, boy.
2:09:01
Incredibly grateful for all you do.
2:09:03
The tips of the day have been almost
2:09:04
as good as Adam not knowing what day
2:09:06
it is.
2:09:08
Adam, being a productive heavy stoner, one of
2:09:12
my favorite pastimes was to get high and
2:09:15
listen to the best podcast in the universe.
2:09:17
You were high.
2:09:19
I was high.
2:09:19
It was great.
2:09:21
When you stopped smoking, I couldn't help but
2:09:24
be a bit bummed, but got over it
2:09:27
quickly, shortly after I was inspired to quit
2:09:29
smoking, and it's now been a full year
2:09:31
since I've taken a puff.
2:09:33
All right.
2:09:33
Congratulations.
2:09:35
You were a big part of that.
2:09:36
Thank you, Adam.
2:09:37
Boots on the ground.
2:09:39
Every night for the past few weeks, there
2:09:41
have been multiple drones flying back and forth
2:09:44
across downtown Chicago, and I'm surrounding, in the
2:09:48
surrounding neighborhood.
2:09:49
Sometimes I will see four of them flying
2:09:52
around in the sky at one time.
2:09:54
I'm writing this email.
2:09:56
I can see, as I write this email,
2:09:58
I can see two.
2:09:59
They're not planes.
2:10:00
You can watch them fly the same path
2:10:03
back and forth for hours.
2:10:05
They likely belong, and then I don't have
2:10:08
anything after that.
2:10:09
That's all I have.
2:10:10
They do.
2:10:11
They likely belong.
2:10:13
Agreed.
2:10:13
They likely belong.
2:10:15
And since this is the donation segment, the
2:10:17
secret donation clip is coming your way.
2:10:20
People who skip over the donation segment miss
2:10:23
all the good stuff.
2:10:24
The Trump administration's explanation about drones over New
2:10:27
Jersey were authorized to be flown by the
2:10:30
FAA for research and various other reasons.
2:10:35
It was disappointing.
2:10:37
I had expected a lot more.
2:10:42
You will see red and green blinking lights.
2:10:45
When they get over you, that's what's confusing
2:10:47
people.
2:10:48
When they get over you, they look like
2:10:49
a small aircraft.
2:10:50
They are fixed-wing drones.
2:10:56
I'm a little bit disappointed in the fact
2:11:00
that the FAA didn't announce this and caused
2:11:03
us to exhort a lot of manpower toward
2:11:08
vetting suspicious activity reports.
2:11:11
Disappointing.
2:11:11
I mean, to have a statement, honestly, it
2:11:14
sounds like it's a cover story because they
2:11:16
had no cover story.
2:11:17
It's disappointing.
2:11:18
It's disappointing when they don't communicate with their
2:11:20
own Federal Bureau of Investigation, the FBI, who
2:11:23
spent hundreds and hundreds of man-hours vetting
2:11:27
through hundreds of phone calls to the TIPS
2:11:29
line.
2:11:30
Mayor Mellum and Monmouth County Sheriff Golden say
2:11:32
they are less concerned about threat but feel
2:11:35
more transparency is needed about exactly what's being
2:11:38
researched and why.
2:11:39
You're flying around in urban areas and densely
2:11:43
populated areas only 100 feet above our homes.
2:11:46
We are concerned, and we deserve to know
2:11:49
what they're doing up there.
2:11:50
So that's an example of a crap report.
2:11:53
Really, really crap.
2:11:55
Because it sounds like these people are disappointed
2:11:58
that, oh, they're not flying saucers, they're not
2:12:00
UFOs.
2:12:01
Here's what the White House press secretary actually
2:12:04
said, short.
2:12:05
And before I turn to questions, I do
2:12:07
have news directly from the president of the
2:12:09
United States that was just shared with me
2:12:11
in the Oval Office from President Trump directly,
2:12:15
an update on the New Jersey drones.
2:12:17
After research and study, the drones that were
2:12:20
flying over New Jersey in large numbers were
2:12:22
authorized to be flown by the FAA for
2:12:26
research and various other reasons.
2:12:29
Many of these drones were also hobbyists, recreational,
2:12:33
and private individuals that enjoy flying drones.
2:12:36
In time, it got worse due to curiosity.
2:12:40
This was not the enemy.
2:12:42
Yes, everyone was excited and flying their drone,
2:12:45
exactly as we posited.
2:12:47
And the research, yeah, there's a base there.
2:12:51
They're flying their fixed-wing drones and doing
2:12:54
stuff.
2:12:57
How crazy was everyone over those drones for
2:12:59
about a week?
2:13:02
They were nuts over it.
2:13:03
Listen to no agenda, people.
2:13:06
We'll calm you down.
2:13:08
Sean Dietrich, Invergrove Heights, Minnesota, 333.33, that's
2:13:13
St. Paul.
2:13:14
Belated birthday donation.
2:13:16
I turned 33 on the 28th.
2:13:18
It seemed like the right time to donate.
2:13:20
Long overdue for a de-douching.
2:13:23
You've been de-douched.
2:13:25
And any 33 drop would be much appreciated.
2:13:28
Thank you, Adam and John, from Sean Dietrich.
2:13:31
33, that's the magic number.
2:13:34
Yes, it's the magic number.
2:13:40
Nelson Ariza, in Lawrenceville, Georgia, 333.
2:13:44
I appreciate what you guys do.
2:13:47
Thank you.
2:13:48
Can I get some Trump Jobs Karma?
2:13:50
And I love my truck.
2:13:53
I'm waiting for your truck.
2:13:55
It's on the other desk.
2:13:57
I have to go get it.
2:13:58
Okay, I'll do the Karma, and you run
2:13:59
like the wind.
2:14:01
Jobs, Jobs, Jobs.
2:14:05
You've got Karma.
2:14:14
The timing is uncanny.
2:14:17
Can you find it?
2:14:20
I love my truck, and I love what
2:14:22
I do.
2:14:22
Cool.
2:14:23
Yeah, I moved it to the right.
2:14:24
Beautiful timing.
2:14:26
It got moved.
2:14:26
It ain't no use to cook it if
2:14:28
you don't use fresh vegetables.
2:14:30
JD is in Elkhorn, Nebraska, 234.56. Nice
2:14:34
sequential number.
2:14:35
With the help of Linda Liu, listen to
2:14:37
this, I started a new job in December.
2:14:40
Wouldn't you know it?
2:14:41
My corner office is Building 33.
2:14:44
Woo!
2:14:45
And this donation takes me to knighthood.
2:14:47
I will be known as Sarcastic the Nomad,
2:14:50
henceforth, given that I can't seem to stay
2:14:52
in one place for long.
2:14:53
Tam-do, Tam-do?
2:14:55
Is it Tam-do?
2:14:56
12-year and lamb chops at the round
2:14:58
table.
2:14:58
Tam-do?
2:14:59
Does that sound right?
2:15:00
I don't know.
2:15:01
I've never heard of Tam-do.
2:15:03
Tam-do sounds like a scotch.
2:15:06
Yes.
2:15:06
A single malt, probably.
2:15:09
Well, that wouldn't be legit.
2:15:11
Jobs, karma, and a stay safe to christen
2:15:17
the occasion.
2:15:17
JD, formerly of Elkhorn, Nebraska.
2:15:20
Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.
2:15:24
Let's vote for jobs.
2:15:25
Yeah!
2:15:28
You've got karma.
2:15:32
Daniel Williams in Mount Shasta, California, right up
2:15:35
the road.
2:15:36
Two-two, which is, yeah, nice area.
2:15:40
Two-two-two-dot-two-two.
2:15:41
Row of ducks for some travel karma for
2:15:43
the...
2:15:46
The Karnowskis?
2:15:48
Karnowskis, Jeans, Williams, and...
2:15:50
Jerrys.
2:15:50
...and Bailey's on the go over the next
2:15:52
few days.
2:15:53
I think it's Karnowkis, Jerrys, Williams, and Bailey's.
2:15:58
Karnowkis, something like that.
2:15:59
All right, here's travel karma for you.
2:16:01
Stay safe.
2:16:02
You've got karma.
2:16:04
And that's an Associate Executive Producer credit for
2:16:07
you, as well for Sir Bates from Bloomington,
2:16:10
Minnesota.
2:16:10
A lot of Minnesota today.
2:16:12
$219.04 is his donation.
2:16:14
He says, no jingles, no karma, no note.
2:16:17
Beautiful.
2:16:18
Good man.
2:16:19
Eli the Coffee Guy in Bensonville, Illinois, $201
2:16:23
.30. You're familiar with his work.
2:16:27
I'm excited for the...
2:16:28
I am.
2:16:30
...Chicagoland No Agenda Meetup at Reggie's in the
2:16:33
South Loop on Saturday, February 1st.
2:16:36
Oh, good.
2:16:38
I've been to a bunch of meetups over
2:16:39
the years, and will affirm that connection is
2:16:41
protection.
2:16:43
I can't wait to hang out with some
2:16:44
awesome people.
2:16:45
Can I...
2:16:46
Bring some bags of coffee and...
2:16:48
...and raffle them off.
2:16:49
There you go.
2:16:50
Raffle them off.
2:16:51
Can I get a goat karma for...
2:16:53
Yeah, that's a good idea.
2:16:55
Can I get a goat karma for good
2:16:56
measure?
2:16:56
And if you haven't tried our coffee, by
2:16:58
the way, visit gigawattcoffeeroasters.com.
2:17:01
You'll be happy you did.
2:17:03
The code ITM for 20% off your
2:17:04
order.
2:17:05
Stay caffeinated.
2:17:06
Eli the Coffee Guy.
2:17:07
Code ITM20 for 20% off your order.
2:17:10
What did I say?
2:17:11
You said code ITM.
2:17:12
It's code Bongino.
2:17:14
Code Bongino is the go-to.
2:17:15
No good, no good.
2:17:16
And he wants some goat karma.
2:17:18
Of course we got that for you, Eli.
2:17:19
You've got...
2:17:21
...karma. And there she is with $200 helping
2:17:24
people get jobs.
2:17:25
We just heard about it.
2:17:26
Linda Lopatkin, Lakewood, Colorado.
2:17:29
And she asked for jobs karma and says,
2:17:31
for a winning resume and a faster job
2:17:33
search, go to imagemakersinc.com.
2:17:35
That's imagemakersinc with a K.
2:17:38
And work with Linda Liu, Duchess of Jobs
2:17:40
and writer of resumes.
2:17:41
Your go-to for all of your executive
2:17:43
resume and job search needs.
2:17:46
Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.
2:17:49
Let's vote for jobs.
2:17:51
You've got karma.
2:17:55
Brian Antoniotti in Pembroke, Massachusetts.
2:17:59
$200.
2:18:00
I put my father onto the show about
2:18:03
a year ago, and he still loves it.
2:18:06
I'm donating on his behalf and would like
2:18:07
to credit this donation.
2:18:09
This is a switcheroo.
2:18:10
Yep, switcheroo.
2:18:11
To my grandmother Lorraine.
2:18:14
Please de-douche her.
2:18:16
You've been de-douched.
2:18:19
She's new to this show, and she's been
2:18:21
enjoying it very much.
2:18:22
I could use a proving the random number
2:18:26
theory.
2:18:26
There it is.
2:18:27
I love my truck jingle.
2:18:29
Give it up for four more years.
2:18:36
I love my truck, and I love what
2:18:39
I do.
2:18:39
And our final associate executive producer, Sir Tim
2:18:42
from Overland Park, Kansas.
2:18:44
$200.
2:18:44
And he says, Adam keeps talking about a
2:18:46
universal ID.
2:18:47
Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't that
2:18:49
what real ID is?
2:18:51
No, it's universal digital ID.
2:18:55
He goes on to say, there are two
2:18:56
alphanumeric sequences on the bottom of my real
2:18:58
ID driver's license that weren't on my old
2:19:00
DL, and I have no idea what they're
2:19:02
for.
2:19:02
It's to target you with a drone.
2:19:04
Also, when I worked as a contractor for
2:19:06
the RTC Savings and Loan bailout in the
2:19:08
early to mid-90s, when contracts came up
2:19:10
to be bid on only minority-owned companies
2:19:13
were allowed to bid, and that was 35
2:19:14
years ago.
2:19:15
So large companies just formed a joint venture
2:19:18
with some minority-owned company and bid on
2:19:20
the contracts using the loophole.
2:19:22
I don't think anything has changed in 35
2:19:23
years, Sir Tim.
2:19:25
That's clear.
2:19:26
And thank you very much for supporting the
2:19:27
show with your treasure.
2:19:28
Thank all of you for supporting us for
2:19:31
episode 1734.
2:19:33
And of course, we'll be thanking everybody who
2:19:37
comes in over $50.
2:19:39
Looking forward to that in our second segment.
2:19:41
And please go to noagendadonations.com to support
2:19:44
the show.
2:19:45
noagendadonations.com.
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In fact, you can set up a recurring
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I just have to say.
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I had it at the ready, waiting for
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the moment.
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You're right.
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Okay, it was planned, perfectly planned.
2:20:46
So I do have some clips that are
2:20:49
unreported in the mainstream media I want to
2:20:51
play because I'll bet you don't.
2:20:52
You know about Mega?
2:20:54
Is that the big guy from New Zealand's
2:20:57
place, Mega?
2:20:59
The Megacorp?
2:21:00
What's his name?
2:21:01
What's the guy?
2:21:02
The German guy?
2:21:04
Yeah, Kim.
2:21:05
Kim.com.
2:21:05
Yeah, that guy.
2:21:07
Nope.
2:21:07
Oh.
2:21:08
No.
2:21:09
I'm not aware.
2:21:11
This Mega, when I heard the story, I
2:21:14
said, this is like literally not being reported
2:21:17
anywhere as though it's not even happening, but
2:21:19
it is.
2:21:21
You'll find out all about it by Unreported
2:21:23
Mega 1.
2:21:24
Conservative movements and politicians rallied in Brussels for
2:21:27
a Make Europe Great Again meeting.
2:21:29
It talked about how European countries could follow
2:21:31
the example of the new Trump administration and
2:21:34
some of its policies.
2:21:36
NTD's international correspondent, David Vives, reports from Brussels.
2:21:40
More than 50 politicians across Europe, mostly members
2:21:43
of parliament, state officials, former ministers, have gathered
2:21:47
today in Brussels.
2:21:48
They rallied under the slogan Make Europe Great
2:21:50
Again.
2:21:52
They said that Trump's victory has empowered conservative
2:21:54
movement across Europe and are envisioning a future
2:21:57
where European policies could follow the path set
2:22:00
by the US president.
2:22:02
Speakers said the Trump administration set an example
2:22:05
to follow.
2:22:06
Up until now, the people have been told,
2:22:08
well, we can't protect our borders.
2:22:10
We can't close our borders.
2:22:12
It's impossible.
2:22:13
We simply can't do it.
2:22:14
Even if we wanted to, it's impossible.
2:22:17
And now, Donald Trump is just, guess what,
2:22:19
I'm just doing it.
2:22:20
So, of course.
2:22:21
And then people will say, well, wait a
2:22:22
minute.
2:22:23
It is possible to do that.
2:22:25
Of course it's possible.
2:22:26
Oh, that's Christine.
2:22:29
Christine Anderson.
2:22:30
Christine, what's her name?
2:22:31
Yeah, I can't remember her name.
2:22:32
Yeah, she's a heavy hitter.
2:22:35
So, Mega, that's interesting.
2:22:37
Yeah, this is not, of course, who wants
2:22:39
to report this?
2:22:39
Because we have to be told, the American
2:22:41
public has to think that Trump is an
2:22:44
international divisive figure.
2:22:47
Do they have red hats?
2:22:49
I didn't see it.
2:22:53
Well, here's an opportunity, people.
2:22:55
This is a noagendashop.com.
2:22:57
Here is a marketing opportunity.
2:23:00
I'm just saying.
2:23:01
Make Europe great again.
2:23:02
Here's clip two of this.
2:23:04
They also say European countries should work to
2:23:06
defend their values and identities.
2:23:08
We need to defend our European civilization, which
2:23:13
is something quite different from just the current
2:23:15
globalist trend.
2:23:16
I want to refer to a very specific
2:23:18
historical, cultural and spiritual identity, and which today
2:23:23
is seriously threatened both by the threat posed
2:23:26
by woke ideology.
2:23:27
We need to find back faith, tradition, also
2:23:30
belief in God.
2:23:32
Trump's diplomacy toward Europe seems to have taken
2:23:34
a different turn from his first term.
2:23:36
Top EU diplomat Kaja Kallas said she invited
2:23:39
US Secretary of State Marco Rubio to a
2:23:42
foreign ministers' meeting to strengthen ties, but was
2:23:45
offered no answer.
2:23:46
According to an article published by Politico, President
2:23:49
Donald Trump may prefer to deal directly with
2:23:51
individual state members rather than EU officials.
2:23:55
This potential strain in relations may benefit European
2:23:58
leaders who align their policies on Donald Trump's
2:24:01
approach.
2:24:02
According to President of the Italian think tank
2:24:04
Nazione Futura Francesco Jubilee, EU top officials have
2:24:08
distanced themselves from Trump in the past, which
2:24:11
may explain the situation.
2:24:13
Hmm.
2:24:14
You know what I'm noticing in a lot
2:24:18
of these clips?
2:24:18
God seems to be trending.
2:24:20
Well, God's trending every now and again, but
2:24:22
it was overdue.
2:24:24
Now, there's a couple of other things that
2:24:26
was...
2:24:26
You mean the Third Awakening?
2:24:28
It comes and goes.
2:24:31
They...
2:24:33
I want to mention something else before we
2:24:35
play the last clip, which is that even
2:24:38
though they're not part of Make Europe Great
2:24:40
Again, is that I was thinking about this
2:24:43
because you had me...
2:24:44
You got me watching The Diplomat, which is
2:24:46
a very kind of a woke-ish, but
2:24:49
interesting...
2:24:51
Well-done show.
2:24:52
Very...
2:24:53
The structure of the story is terrific.
2:24:55
I think this is the first time I've
2:24:57
actually got you to watch a show and
2:24:58
stick with it.
2:25:01
It's because it's one of the best-written
2:25:03
shows on television.
2:25:04
Have you seen Landman?
2:25:06
I'm not going to watch Landman or anything
2:25:08
to do with Yellowstone.
2:25:10
It's just too much.
2:25:11
It has nothing to do with Yellowstone.
2:25:14
I'll check Landman out some other time.
2:25:17
But I'm going back to...
2:25:19
That's not the point I'm trying to make.
2:25:20
I'm Diplomat, and then there's this other show,
2:25:23
which is Black Dove, which I, by the
2:25:25
way, had to stop watching it.
2:25:26
We stopped.
2:25:27
We could not last.
2:25:29
No, it's unwatchable.
2:25:30
It is unwatchable.
2:25:32
Only because what's-their-face is in it
2:25:35
that we watched at least two episodes?
2:25:37
Keira Knightley.
2:25:38
Keira Knightley.
2:25:39
But, oh, no, it's horrible.
2:25:41
It's a terrible show.
2:25:42
And then there's The Agency.
2:25:45
Yes.
2:25:46
Now, what do these three shows have in
2:25:48
common?
2:25:48
Spooks.
2:25:50
What else do they have in common?
2:25:52
Gay sex.
2:25:56
I'm just...
2:25:57
Okay, I'm not going to go on and
2:25:58
on.
2:25:59
But what they really have in common is
2:26:01
a kind of a...
2:26:03
I'd say a presentation of the British Empire
2:26:08
as a bunch of screwed-up a-holes.
2:26:11
Yes.
2:26:12
All three shows are about how screwed up
2:26:16
and how crummy the Brits are.
2:26:18
That's a good point.
2:26:19
And this fits right in with Elon Musk
2:26:22
being the hitman for the British Empire.
2:26:23
For Trump going after Keir Starmer, Starmer, Sturmer,
2:26:28
whatever his name is.
2:26:29
The Prime Minister of England.
2:26:31
I think you've identified an important trend here.
2:26:34
This trend is huge.
2:26:36
And what they're doing is they were cutting
2:26:38
off England because...
2:26:39
And I think it's...
2:26:40
These storylines were started long before Trump showed
2:26:43
up and won.
2:26:44
But these storylines began some time ago.
2:26:47
This hatred of England.
2:26:48
We're turning on England for some reason.
2:26:51
I'm not sure exactly what it is.
2:26:52
How about that they stand for everything perpendicularly
2:26:56
opposite to America?
2:26:58
Like freedom of speech.
2:26:58
They're against free speech.
2:27:00
They have all kinds of issues going on
2:27:02
over there.
2:27:03
They're threatening us by saying we're going to
2:27:06
extradite anybody who says anything that we don't
2:27:09
like.
2:27:09
Yep.
2:27:10
Yep.
2:27:10
And Starmer is a creep.
2:27:13
And the fact that he sent people over
2:27:15
to campaign for Kamala Harris is not sitting
2:27:19
well.
2:27:20
And these three shows and I think there's
2:27:22
other shows too that are showing up are
2:27:24
so anti-English.
2:27:26
There is a major movement going on that's
2:27:29
anti-England.
2:27:31
And we should be aware of it.
2:27:32
Well, come to think of it, when's the
2:27:33
last time you saw UK on a spreadsheet?
2:27:40
I haven't seen UK.
2:27:40
They're not donating.
2:27:42
They've left the building.
2:27:44
Oh, that's a good...
2:27:46
You're right.
2:27:48
We've probably been cut off.
2:27:49
We probably can't get our message into the
2:27:51
country.
2:27:53
Hey, get some thumb drives and drop them
2:27:55
off in the UK.
2:27:56
These people need help.
2:27:57
They need help from us.
2:28:00
It's so hard to cover the...
2:28:02
Actually, I have a...
2:28:04
Funny you bring this up.
2:28:05
I have a Prime Minister Question Time clip.
2:28:08
Let's play that right after we get out
2:28:10
of the...
2:28:10
Okay, number three.
2:28:11
Here we go.
2:28:12
The position of the European Union in the
2:28:14
last few years was a position totally against
2:28:18
the Republican Party and a position totally against
2:28:20
Donald Trump.
2:28:21
But now we must have a real politic.
2:28:24
Donald Trump, also if maybe Ursula von der
2:28:27
Leyen or some other people in the European
2:28:29
Union they don't like him, but right now
2:28:31
he's the President of the United States.
2:28:33
So we must talk with him.
2:28:35
He believes Italian Prime Minister Giorgia Meloni, who
2:28:38
was the only European head of state invited
2:28:40
to Donald Trump's inauguration, could be a leading
2:28:42
figure for Europe.
2:28:43
And having a Prime Minister which can talk
2:28:47
with him in a good relationship like Giorgia
2:28:50
Meloni can be something good for all the
2:28:52
European Union.
2:28:53
Was she there?
2:28:54
Was she at the inauguration?
2:28:56
Did she go?
2:28:56
I don't know.
2:28:56
I think so.
2:28:57
She might have been.
2:28:58
She should have been invited.
2:28:59
She should have been Elon's date.
2:29:01
I'm surprised he didn't walk in.
2:29:03
Or Obama's date for that matter.
2:29:05
She could have been anybody's date.
2:29:08
This is a very interesting trend.
2:29:10
Thank you for identifying this.
2:29:11
This is a very...
2:29:13
Particularly with the Hollywood stuff, because it's all
2:29:16
Hollywood.
2:29:17
It's Netflix really.
2:29:18
Isn't most of this Netflix?
2:29:21
The agency is Showtime.
2:29:24
OK.
2:29:24
Black Doves.
2:29:26
Black Dove and The Diplomat are both Netflix.
2:29:29
Well here's the Prime Minister's question time.
2:29:33
Turning now to the United States.
2:29:35
Can the Prime Minister guarantee that he will
2:29:39
not sell out Britain's fantastic farmers to Donald
2:29:43
Trump in a trade deal that undermines our
2:29:45
high food and animal welfare standards in the
2:29:49
way that the Conservatives sold them out in
2:29:52
the Australia and New Zealand deals?
2:29:55
Can I do it, sir?
2:29:56
Mr. Speaker, we will work with the US.
2:30:00
We will work with other countries, but we
2:30:01
will never lower our standards.
2:30:03
Yeah, we don't want you.
2:30:06
You can have our government cheese.
2:30:09
Yeah, we've got to be anti-England now.
2:30:11
This is interesting.
2:30:13
I know that Ursula...
2:30:15
Once you spot this trend, I think we're
2:30:17
going to start seeing a lot of it.
2:30:18
Well, Ursula has been...
2:30:19
Queen Ursula has really been trying to step
2:30:25
up.
2:30:25
She's like, we're going to reboot everything, but
2:30:28
we're still going to be green.
2:30:31
I was looking at her like, I don't
2:30:32
think so.
2:30:33
And of course, we're also stopping all the...
2:30:38
I so agree with this.
2:30:41
Of course, we need to quickly reinstate things
2:30:46
that are killing people, but the withholding all
2:30:50
foreign aid is kind of cool.
2:30:53
It's like, let's just stop for a second
2:30:54
and see what everybody thinks when we shut
2:30:56
down, which hopefully, well actually, it brings us
2:31:00
a rare Africa news clip.
2:31:02
Hundreds of aid programs are on edge after
2:31:05
U.S. President Donald Trump paused trillions of
2:31:08
dollars in federal spending, domestic and foreign.
2:31:11
The global impact of U.S. foreign aid
2:31:14
is massive.
2:31:15
It funds programs fighting disease, malnutrition and human
2:31:18
trafficking, security programs and aid for pregnant women
2:31:22
and babies.
2:31:23
Three million lives a year are saved just
2:31:26
from U.S. aid funded immunization programs.
2:31:29
The White House says Trump ordered the freeze
2:31:31
to root out any funding that isn't consistent
2:31:34
with his agenda.
2:31:36
So what does this pause mean?
2:31:38
It means no more funding for illegal DEI
2:31:40
programs.
2:31:41
It means no more funding for the green
2:31:43
new scam that has cost American taxpayers tens
2:31:46
of billions of dollars.
2:31:48
It means no more funding for transgenderism and
2:31:51
wokeness across our federal bureaucracy and agencies.
2:31:55
Initially, only emergency food programs and military aid
2:31:59
to Israel and Egypt were exempt from the
2:32:01
foreign aid pause.
2:32:03
But after international uproar, Secretary of State Marco
2:32:06
Rubio granted a waiver to continue funding humanitarian
2:32:09
programs that provide life-saving medicine, medical services,
2:32:14
food, shelter and subsistence assistance.
2:32:17
Still, many organizations are unclear whether they are
2:32:21
allowed to operate and worry about losing staff
2:32:24
and infrastructure.
2:32:26
Trump's order is being challenged in U.S.
2:32:28
courts, and Tuesday, a judge temporarily blocked the
2:32:32
directive.
2:32:32
The White House says it will defend the
2:32:34
funding freeze, and this fight is likely to
2:32:37
go all the way to the Supreme Court.
2:32:39
This is how a businessman thinks, like, okay,
2:32:42
let me shut it all off, let's see
2:32:43
who comes crying first, and we'll evaluate on
2:32:46
a first-come, first-served basis.
2:32:49
It's, I mean, it sounds cruel, but it
2:32:52
is our money.
2:32:55
Yeah, I think the clip I have, which
2:32:57
includes this screwy one, this is the one
2:32:59
that's unfortunately, it's smudged, but it's the one
2:33:02
that has condom bombs in the title.
2:33:06
Yeah.
2:33:07
Yes, I have it here.
2:33:08
And during the signing ceremony today, President Trump
2:33:10
also announced a new order to send up
2:33:13
to 30,000 illegal immigrants, or what he
2:33:16
calls worst of the worst, to Guantanamo Bay.
2:33:20
And President Trump's borders are Tom Homan, talking
2:33:22
to us on the White House campus this
2:33:24
afternoon, told us that that's already actually expanding
2:33:28
an existing migrant center at Guantanamo.
2:33:32
Detained the worst criminal illegal aliens threatening the
2:33:35
American people.
2:33:36
Some of them are so bad, we don't
2:33:37
even trust the countries to hold them.
2:33:39
The significant public safety threats, we can fight.
2:33:42
We're doing it.
2:33:43
We're already doing it.
2:33:44
We identified and stopped $50 million being sent
2:33:48
to Gaza to buy condoms for Hamas.
2:33:53
$50 million.
2:33:55
And you know what's happened to them?
2:33:57
They've used them as a method of making
2:33:59
bombs.
2:34:00
What?
2:34:02
You haven't heard this?
2:34:03
No.
2:34:03
They make bombs out of condoms?
2:34:06
They use the bombs as some sort of
2:34:08
like a balloon, and then they hang some,
2:34:11
you know, explosive off a bunch of them,
2:34:14
and then they fly them over.
2:34:16
That's what they say.
2:34:17
I mean, it just is news to me
2:34:19
of condom bombs.
2:34:20
If it's condoms, that's a lot of rubber
2:34:22
that you're sending over there, $50 million.
2:34:24
I don't know what they cost.
2:34:25
It's been a while.
2:34:27
Well, that number changes from $50 million to,
2:34:29
and I've heard, $15 million, so I don't
2:34:31
know.
2:34:31
Well, Christy Noem is our new secretary of
2:34:34
the Department of Homeland Security.
2:34:37
Before you discuss this, if you listen to
2:34:39
that last clip when they're talking about opening
2:34:42
up Gitmo for $30,000 and sending people
2:34:44
there, she said, very subtly, and I caught
2:34:48
it, she says, we already are.
2:34:51
Oh, sending people to Gitmo?
2:34:52
Yeah, I think that's a secret that she
2:34:55
dropped.
2:34:57
But anyway, go on.
2:34:59
Well, I very much enjoyed her talking about
2:35:01
my favorite topic, which is the NGOs, which
2:35:06
is, and she actually explains how she, whether
2:35:09
it's true or not, incorrectly thought, you know,
2:35:11
NGOs are doing good things, you know, it's
2:35:14
nonprofit, it's good for people, and these are,
2:35:17
of course, in some cases, billion-dollar organizations
2:35:23
run, sadly, run by many faith-based organizations,
2:35:27
like the Catholic Bishops Conference, which, I don't
2:35:31
know if there's a Catholic or a bishop
2:35:32
actually in the organization, but it's a money
2:35:36
-making scheme, and it's hundreds of millions, if
2:35:39
not billions of dollars, and she lays it
2:35:42
out as we've cut it all off.
2:35:43
Madam Secretary, I don't think people fully understand
2:35:45
the role that NGOs play, many NGOs play,
2:35:48
in facilitating illegal immigration.
2:35:50
I just want to share these numbers with
2:35:51
everybody up on the screen.
2:35:53
We spend over $380 million, did in 2024,
2:35:56
for sheltering and service programs for illegal immigrants.
2:36:00
But the vast network of NGOs that help
2:36:05
facilitate it through Panama, through Mexico, and make
2:36:08
it a landing spot here in the United
2:36:10
States is a massive contributor here to illegal
2:36:13
immigration.
2:36:14
So what you're telling us today is that
2:36:15
now stops?
2:36:16
At least the federal funding of that stops?
2:36:18
Yes, through the Department of Homeland Security, we
2:36:20
have stopped spending those dollars to fund those
2:36:23
NGOs, and well, what's been so revealing is
2:36:26
that many of these NGOs actually have infrastructure
2:36:29
and operations set up in Mexico, on that
2:36:32
side of the border that are telling those
2:36:35
illegal immigrants to come to them, and they
2:36:37
will get them across the border.
2:36:39
So they're not just operating in the United
2:36:40
States, they're operating outside of the United States
2:36:43
to help make it easier for those who
2:36:45
want to break our laws.
2:36:46
And while I was one of those Americans
2:36:47
that years ago, when somebody said NGO to
2:36:50
me, I thought, oh, that's amazing.
2:36:52
That's a non-profit that's out there telling
2:36:54
somebody about Jesus, or spreading faith and salvation,
2:36:58
or doing good work and charitable work, helping
2:37:00
people that are less fortunate, and then I
2:37:02
realized over the years it's been perverted into
2:37:06
this shadow government.
2:37:08
An NGO is sometimes an operation that does
2:37:11
things that the government cannot do, can't legally
2:37:14
do, so they create an entity to use
2:37:16
government dollars, taxpayer dollars, to do something that
2:37:20
the federal government isn't allowed to do, to
2:37:23
do a shadow government operation that really has
2:37:26
been used recently to undermine our country's national
2:37:28
security.
2:37:30
Yeah.
2:37:31
This is, I mean, wow, how long have
2:37:34
we been talking about this since Obama days?
2:37:36
Since Obama days.
2:37:38
And of course, with the president, new president,
2:37:41
we have to set the doomsday clock again.
2:37:45
We've been tracking the doomsday clock for many
2:37:47
years, and of course I keep track of
2:37:49
these clips.
2:37:49
This is the doomsday clock in Trump 1.
2:37:53
The board concludes in no uncertain terms that
2:37:55
words matter in ensuring the safety and security
2:37:58
of our planet.
2:37:59
They are not the same as actions, but
2:38:01
they matter a lot, especially when the risks
2:38:04
of accident and miscalculation are so high.
2:38:07
The first has been the cavalier and reckless
2:38:09
language used across the globe, especially in the
2:38:13
United States during the presidential election and after,
2:38:16
around nuclear weapons and nuclear threats.
2:38:18
And the second is a growing disregard of
2:38:21
scientific expertise, expertise that is needed when it
2:38:25
comes to responding to pressing global challenges, including
2:38:28
climate change.
2:38:29
The board takes the unprecedented step, the first
2:38:32
time in our four-minute history of moving
2:38:34
the clock hand 30 seconds closer to midnight.
2:38:37
Today we move the clock a half minute
2:38:40
closer to midnight.
2:38:41
It is now two and a half minutes
2:38:43
to midnight.
2:38:44
So that was, sorry about that channel loss
2:38:47
there, two and a half minutes to midnight
2:38:48
in 2017.
2:38:50
We go back to the last time we
2:38:52
honestly pulled the clip, the doomsday clock in
2:38:56
2023.
2:38:58
Now they call it the doomsday clock and
2:39:00
it symbolizes just how close humanity is to
2:39:03
self-annihilation.
2:39:05
The closer the clock gets to midnight the
2:39:06
more danger we're all in.
2:39:09
Well the sad news is that a couple
2:39:11
of factors have resulted in that doomsday clock
2:39:13
advancing by 10 seconds, meaning we're now just
2:39:17
90 seconds to midnight.
2:39:19
So we went from two and a half
2:39:21
minutes through Trump and Biden somehow to 90
2:39:27
seconds in 2023.
2:39:30
And boy, here is today's announcement.
2:39:33
It's a shocker.
2:39:34
It is the determination of the Science and
2:39:36
Security Board of the Bulletin of the Atomic
2:39:38
Scientists that the world has not made sufficient
2:39:42
progress on existential risks threatening all of humanity.
2:39:47
We thus move the clock forward.
2:39:50
Any move towards midnight should be taken as
2:39:53
an indication of extreme danger and an unmistakable
2:39:56
warning.
2:39:57
This is the closest the world has ever
2:40:00
been to midnight.
2:40:02
So what do you think they moved it
2:40:03
to?
2:40:04
It was 90 seconds to midnight in 2023.
2:40:07
What do you think they moved it to?
2:40:08
I know what they moved it to but
2:40:10
the question in my mind is where are
2:40:12
all these intermediate steps between the 2017?
2:40:17
We must be missing clips.
2:40:18
No, no.
2:40:19
I don't think they've I don't think they
2:40:20
did it in those years.
2:40:22
During Biden?
2:40:23
No.
2:40:23
I mean, I looked at all our clips.
2:40:25
The thing is, the photo, I think it's
2:40:27
8 seconds now.
2:40:28
No, no.
2:40:29
They moved it one second to 89 seconds.
2:40:32
Oh, is it 89?
2:40:33
One second.
2:40:35
They show a picture of the clock and
2:40:38
these two scientists and these two scientists, especially
2:40:42
the guy on the right, if anyone can
2:40:44
find this photo.
2:40:45
He looks like just a depressed sad sack
2:40:48
character.
2:40:50
It's like you look at it and say
2:40:51
this guy, they're not going to make the
2:40:53
90 seconds.
2:40:54
I mean, this is pathetic.
2:40:55
What's so odd is that these guys are
2:40:58
the organization of nuclear or atomic scientists and
2:41:03
you heard in that 2017 clip oh, it's
2:41:06
about...
2:41:07
Climate change.
2:41:08
It's all about climate change.
2:41:09
Listen to the rest.
2:41:10
Arms control treaties are in tatters and there
2:41:13
are active conflicts involving nuclear powers.
2:41:16
The world's attempts to deal with climate change
2:41:18
remain inadequate.
2:41:19
In nuclear powers and climate change.
2:41:22
As most governments fail to enact the financing
2:41:24
and policy initiatives necessary to halt global warming.
2:41:28
Financing.
2:41:29
You bet.
2:41:30
Advances in an array of disruptive technologies, including
2:41:33
biotechnology, artificial intelligence, and in space have far
2:41:38
outpaced policy, regulation, and a thorough understanding of
2:41:42
their consequences.
2:41:43
All of these dangers are greatly exacerbated by
2:41:46
a potent threat multiplier.
2:41:49
Yeah, to take it one second closer to
2:41:51
midnight.
2:41:51
Please.
2:41:52
The spread of misinformation, disinformation, and conspiracy theories
2:41:57
that degrade the communication ecosystem and increasingly blur
2:42:01
the line between truth and falsehood.
2:42:04
Yes, we've broken the messaging system.
2:42:07
The only effective response is for nations to
2:42:09
work together.
2:42:11
Ah, globalism.
2:42:12
Which is why it is so alarming that
2:42:15
President Trump has signaled his intention to withdraw
2:42:19
from the Paris Agreement.
2:42:21
In this crucial year for climate action, we
2:42:25
urge all other signatories to double down and
2:42:29
reaffirm their commitment to meeting the Paris goals.
2:42:35
So, that only lost us one second?
2:42:38
Eh.
2:42:40
It doesn't seem so bad.
2:42:43
I mean, considering it was two and a
2:42:45
half minutes in 2017.
2:42:48
Well, there's time.
2:42:49
You know, 2017 to today, there's a lot
2:42:52
more time.
2:42:53
I mean, this clock doesn't make any sense.
2:42:56
No.
2:42:56
No.
2:42:57
No kidding.
2:42:59
No kidding.
2:43:00
This is such a stupid thing.
2:43:03
Climate.
2:43:03
I'm so sick of it.
2:43:05
Is everyone else sick of this?
2:43:06
Is anyone sick?
2:43:07
No.
2:43:08
I think you've taken this optimistic attitude about
2:43:12
being sick of stuff.
2:43:14
Yeah.
2:43:15
And fed up.
2:43:16
And everybody knows.
2:43:18
And all this other stuff.
2:43:19
Which is, it's a joke.
2:43:23
What?
2:43:23
Climate change is a joke?
2:43:25
Or?
2:43:25
No.
2:43:25
No.
2:43:25
Your attitude, as if this is like everyone's
2:43:28
noticing, is not.
2:43:30
You're inaccurate.
2:43:32
Nobody is picking.
2:43:34
I mean, we're a small niche of people
2:43:38
that have a clue.
2:43:39
All the listeners, the producers of this show,
2:43:42
I'd say we have a clue, but they're
2:43:44
all susceptible to being pulled away from it
2:43:47
by the mainstream media, which is still lying
2:43:50
to them.
2:43:51
No.
2:43:51
I think the mainstream media is over.
2:43:53
It's done.
2:43:53
It's toast.
2:43:54
It's no more.
2:43:54
You can say that all you want.
2:43:56
I will.
2:43:57
And I want, and I will continue to
2:43:59
say it.
2:43:59
Yes, you will.
2:44:01
Because it's true.
2:44:02
It's Joe Rogan.
2:44:04
That's it.
2:44:05
It's all we need.
2:44:06
It's all Joe Rogan.
2:44:08
I'm going to shut down the whole podcasting
2:44:10
business.
2:44:10
I think you're going to be on the
2:44:11
Rogan show pretty soon.
2:44:12
Again, after a two-year hiatus.
2:44:14
I wasn't going to mention anything.
2:44:16
Oh, I'm sorry I did.
2:44:18
Was it going to be a surprise?
2:44:20
Yeah, I wanted everyone to be astounded.
2:44:22
The reason why I wasn't going to say
2:44:24
anything is because of the TJs.
2:44:27
What's that?
2:44:28
The Tell Joes.
2:44:31
Oh.
2:44:33
Hey man, tell Joe, tell Joe that Bitcoin
2:44:35
is the way to go.
2:44:36
Hey man, tell Joe he's got to get
2:44:38
in with Jesus.
2:44:39
Hey man, tell Joe, tell Joe, tell Joe.
2:44:42
I get a lot of that.
2:44:45
But thanks.
2:44:46
I'm going to send a message out to
2:44:47
everybody.
2:44:48
Do not send Adam any suggestions as to
2:44:51
what to tell Joe.
2:44:53
You want to tell Joe something?
2:44:55
He's got an ex-Twitter account.
2:44:58
He's got his name Joe Rogan.
2:44:59
Just send him a note right there on
2:45:01
the Twitter.
2:45:03
Tell him yourself.
2:45:05
Tell Joe.
2:45:08
It's really amazing.
2:45:09
People are excited.
2:45:10
I understand.
2:45:11
People are just excited.
2:45:13
One of our own is going on.
2:45:16
Yes.
2:45:17
It's been on before two or three times.
2:45:19
You're like a regular.
2:45:20
This will be my fifth time.
2:45:23
But it's been two years.
2:45:24
It's been a very long time.
2:45:28
So it's not really regular.
2:45:30
It's regular enough.
2:45:31
I keep getting bummed for Trump, Vance, Musk.
2:45:38
I'm sure there was no one available.
2:45:41
You are at best the reliable substitute.
2:45:47
Tony Randall, Regis Philbin.
2:45:50
Exactly.
2:45:51
I'm perfect.
2:45:52
The Joan Rivers.
2:45:53
There he comes.
2:45:55
Who didn't show up?
2:45:56
Oh God, call Adam.
2:45:59
As we I guess are in the season
2:46:03
of reveal.
2:46:04
The CIA has come out with some.
2:46:07
I didn't clip this.
2:46:11
I got it from CBS because we need
2:46:15
to take a medical approach to this story
2:46:17
with Dr. Celine Gounder.
2:46:22
Wasn't Dr. Celine the one who lost her
2:46:24
husband, who died during the sporting event, died
2:46:28
suddenly?
2:46:29
I think she is.
2:46:31
Well, we don't know.
2:46:33
China said today that it's quote extremely unlikely
2:46:35
that COVID-19 came from one of its
2:46:37
laboratories two days after the CIA said the
2:46:41
virus may have begun to spread after an
2:46:43
accidental leak from a research facility.
2:46:46
The agency's finding is not the result of
2:46:47
any new intelligence.
2:46:48
The report was done during the Biden administration
2:46:51
and then declassified and released Saturday on the
2:46:54
orders of new CIA director John Ratcliffe.
2:46:57
The CIA does however acknowledge it has quote
2:47:00
low confidence in its own conclusion.
2:47:03
Dr. Celine Gounder is here with me now
2:47:05
in Studio 57.
2:47:06
She's a CBS News medical contributor and editor
2:47:08
-at-large for public health at KFF Health
2:47:09
News.
2:47:10
Editor-at-large!
2:47:10
So why has the CIA shifted its stance
2:47:13
toward this?
2:47:14
And remind us what the other possibilities were.
2:47:16
I mean, I remember only a few years
2:47:18
ago, the wet market in Wuhan.
2:47:20
Why that maybe isn't the prevailing theory anymore
2:47:23
for the CIA?
2:47:24
She doesn't even remind us, you just did
2:47:26
it.
2:47:27
John Ratcliffe, who's the new head of the
2:47:28
CIA, has long thought that COVID was the
2:47:31
result of a lab leak.
2:47:32
Again, this is not the result of any
2:47:34
new intelligence per se, but really how people
2:47:36
synthesize, analyze, and weigh the existing evidence.
2:47:40
But I think it's also important to emphasize
2:47:42
that the confidence that the FDA, or excuse
2:47:44
me, the CIA has in this assessment is
2:47:47
low confidence.
2:47:49
And so I think, big picture, we still
2:47:51
really don't know and we may never really
2:47:53
know where COVID emerged from.
2:47:55
What kind of analysis is she giving?
2:47:58
What?
2:47:59
We may never know.
2:48:01
We may never know.
2:48:02
Well, let's talk about the theories.
2:48:04
What is the lab leak theory?
2:48:05
Again, just catch us up to speed.
2:48:06
The idea being that there may have been
2:48:08
an accident in a lab where scientists were
2:48:10
working on COVID or COVID-like viruses, perhaps
2:48:14
mutated at some point to become COVID.
2:48:16
And in fact, there are different theories about
2:48:18
even which lab.
2:48:19
You have the Department of Energy that thinks
2:48:21
it was from the Wuhan Center for Disease
2:48:23
Control.
2:48:23
You have the FBI, which has said with
2:48:26
moderate confidence that they think it comes from
2:48:29
the Wuhan Institute of Virology.
2:48:31
The CIA has not said which lab they
2:48:34
think it came from, but they think it
2:48:35
might have come from a lab.
2:48:37
So there's a lot of still, even within
2:48:38
the intelligence community, conflicting opinions about where this
2:48:41
came from.
2:48:41
And Wuhan being where the first cases were
2:48:43
discovered.
2:48:44
Exactly.
2:48:44
She's such a stooge, man.
2:48:46
What a stooge.
2:48:48
A stooge for who?
2:48:49
Well, let's listen.
2:48:50
What does it tell you that these agencies
2:48:51
don't even agree?
2:48:53
Well, you know, there's also disagreement with the
2:48:55
medical and public health and scientific community.
2:48:58
I think some of this is a result
2:48:59
of, we focus on different kinds of information.
2:49:02
So intelligence agents are going to focus on
2:49:05
what are emails and telephone calls that they
2:49:08
can intercept satellite imagery, those kinds of information.
2:49:12
Whereas we as scientists will look at the
2:49:15
genomics of the virus, how it's mutating, at
2:49:17
what pace over time.
2:49:18
Can you find a bat that has a
2:49:21
close ancestor of COVID?
2:49:23
Can you find direct evidence in the lab
2:49:25
that they were tinkering with the genetics of
2:49:28
similar viruses?
2:49:29
Yes.
2:49:29
So we just weigh these things slightly differently
2:49:31
and have a different perspective as a result.
2:49:33
So your question is, you know, stooge for
2:49:36
who?
2:49:36
Well, maybe this clip will answer.
2:49:39
It's the last one.
2:49:40
Does it make you worry that if we
2:49:41
may never know?
2:49:42
Are you worried?
2:49:43
How are we going to prevent the next
2:49:44
one?
2:49:44
I mean, yes, it is important to be
2:49:45
prepared.
2:49:46
We know that we need more PPE stocked
2:49:48
up just in case something happens.
2:49:49
But the ultimate goal for finding the origin
2:49:51
is to make sure we never have to
2:49:53
live in times where refrigerated morgues are parked
2:49:55
on the street.
2:49:56
Well, I think it depends.
2:49:59
Refrigerated morgues are parked on the street.
2:50:01
You remember that?
2:50:03
Oh, yeah, because yeah, well, and she's laughing
2:50:05
about it because she knows it's a scam.
2:50:08
Yes.
2:50:08
Finding the origin is to make sure we
2:50:10
never have to live in times where refrigerated
2:50:12
morgues are parked on the street.
2:50:13
Well, I think it depends.
2:50:14
I think for some people, it's important to
2:50:16
know how it emerged because they want retribution.
2:50:19
They want to maybe revenge.
2:50:22
And, you know, I think it depends on
2:50:23
your perspective.
2:50:24
Accountability.
2:50:25
Code.
2:50:26
Code for Trump.
2:50:27
Yes.
2:50:27
The scientific community, public health community, we just
2:50:30
want to prevent the next big one.
2:50:32
We're not really focused on the past.
2:50:33
We're more about, okay, how do we prevent
2:50:35
this in the future?
2:50:36
And I did have a conversation recently with
2:50:39
Admiral Brett Giroir around this.
2:50:40
As many may remember, Giroir was the COVID
2:50:43
testing czar under Trump in 2020, and we
2:50:46
talked a bit about how do you prevent
2:50:48
something like this from happening again?
2:50:50
Is wastewater that kind of early warning system
2:50:53
that might alert us that there has been
2:50:56
a lab leak from one of these BSL
2:50:58
-4 labs?
2:50:58
Yeah, absolutely.
2:51:00
Wastewater monitoring is an outstanding way to monitor
2:51:06
any geography at a given time for the
2:51:10
organisms of your choice.
2:51:12
And so it certainly could be used as
2:51:13
an early warning system for a lab leak
2:51:17
or a natural epidemic.
2:51:20
So we want to be preventing, whether it's
2:51:22
a lab leak or it's a wet market
2:51:24
in Wuhan, we want to be preventing these
2:51:26
things from happening again.
2:51:28
And what we talked about was could you
2:51:29
use wastewater testing, for example, right outside one
2:51:32
of these high-tech BSL-4 labs that
2:51:34
work with dangerous pathogens?
2:51:36
If you have a lab leak, you would
2:51:38
see it in the wastewater.
2:51:39
If you have a lab leak outside of
2:51:40
a wet market, you would see it in
2:51:42
the wastewater.
2:51:42
So can we be more targeted in that
2:51:44
way?
2:51:44
Interesting.
2:51:45
Just stick a dipstick in my septic and
2:51:48
let me know what's in my wastewater.
2:51:50
I should mention, by the way, we have
2:51:53
wet markets around here.
2:51:55
We have them in San Francisco, Chinatown.
2:51:56
Yeah, and they're all Trump voters now, I
2:51:58
hear.
2:51:59
It could be.
2:52:00
But the wet market, I want to explain
2:52:02
to people what a wet market is in
2:52:04
so far as Chinatown is concerned because there's
2:52:07
been a big scandal.
2:52:08
Oh, they're a wet market.
2:52:10
They have a wet market and it's like
2:52:13
ground zero, the next virus coming from San
2:52:16
Francisco wet market.
2:52:17
What is it?
2:52:18
Do you know what?
2:52:18
I'm going to explain what a wet market
2:52:20
is, but do you have any idea what
2:52:21
a technically a wet market is?
2:52:24
Yes, that's where you have greasy, grimy, dead,
2:52:28
pussy bats that people sell to other people
2:52:31
to eat in Chinatown.
2:52:33
Yeah.
2:52:34
So a wet market in Chinatown, which is
2:52:37
quite kind of a funny thing to visit,
2:52:39
is a it's like a store and inside
2:52:44
they have tanks and tanks and tanks of
2:52:47
live fish, live lobsters, live everything wet.
2:52:51
They're living beings and so you have this
2:52:55
whole place that's just filled with wet it's
2:52:57
wet.
2:52:58
Why is it called a wet market?
2:53:00
No one ever explains this.
2:53:01
Because of water.
2:53:02
Because of water and so you go in
2:53:05
there and the thing that happens, they're getting
2:53:06
bent out of shape about this, but I
2:53:08
remember when I was in college or even
2:53:10
in high school that this was going on.
2:53:13
You go into the wet market in Chinatown
2:53:16
and you go in and there's a big
2:53:19
giant tank full of fish.
2:53:23
Whatever fish it is.
2:53:25
Catfish, let's say.
2:53:26
And you see a fish and you say,
2:53:27
I want that fish.
2:53:28
And by the way, there is a the
2:53:31
equivalent of a similar wet market, only it's
2:53:34
not wet, of poultry that's run by a
2:53:37
Muslim group in Oakland and you do the
2:53:39
same thing there.
2:53:40
You see the live fish, you point at
2:53:42
it and they say, okay, and this is
2:53:45
how you get fresh fish.
2:53:46
They pull it out of the tank and
2:53:48
then club it in front of you as
2:53:51
the fish is flopping around, they're clubbing it
2:53:52
with a big club.
2:53:54
And the fish sometimes falls on the ground
2:53:56
and they're clubbing away and it's nightmarish.
2:54:01
And so that's a wet market.
2:54:05
Now they and you witness this, you get
2:54:08
to see these guys clubbing away.
2:54:09
And how hungry are you after that, for
2:54:12
eating this fish after you've seen it clubbed
2:54:14
like a baby seal?
2:54:16
This is the damnedest thing you've ever seen,
2:54:18
by the way.
2:54:19
Oh, this is cruelty, and so they made
2:54:21
a big fuss about the wet market.
2:54:24
And so I don't know how many of
2:54:25
these are left but in Oakland they've got
2:54:27
this Muslim thing, Butler and I both Oh,
2:54:30
you still see Butler?
2:54:32
No, I know, it just goes back because
2:54:34
Butler started using this place almost exclusively for
2:54:37
his poultry.
2:54:38
And it depends on the time of the
2:54:40
year, but they have turkeys, they got ducks,
2:54:41
they got geese, depends.
2:54:43
Sometimes they have geese, which is really excellent.
2:54:46
You go in there, there's all these cages,
2:54:49
tons of cages, all these animals, and you
2:54:50
point one out and some guy sticks his
2:54:54
hand in there, grabs him by the neck,
2:54:56
takes him, they don't club him in front
2:54:58
of you, they take him into the back,
2:54:59
chops their head off and dress him, and
2:55:02
you come out with a perfectly dressed you
2:55:05
know, goose or a duck or a chicken.
2:55:08
I'm still kind of hung up on the
2:55:09
clubbing of the fish.
2:55:11
Yeah, the clubbing of the fish.
2:55:12
It's quite the sight, believe me.
2:55:14
Can they just chop his head off or
2:55:16
shoot him?
2:55:16
No, they club him.
2:55:18
Shoot him.
2:55:19
They don't shoot him either.
2:55:20
No, they club him, and it's the damnedest
2:55:21
thing you've ever seen.
2:55:22
But what is the benefit to clubbing?
2:55:24
Does that, uh, does that, I mean...
2:55:26
It stuns them.
2:55:28
I don't know, it's cheap, low, best price.
2:55:30
I mean, it's the easiest way to do
2:55:32
it, I don't know.
2:55:33
The things I even learn on this show,
2:55:35
it is amazing.
2:55:36
I can't wait.
2:55:37
Hey, kids, guess where this fish was an
2:55:40
hour ago.
2:55:41
Swimming happily in this tank until I had
2:55:43
him clubbed.
2:55:44
Nice.
2:55:46
Yeah.
2:55:47
Um, just one more big farmer thing.
2:55:48
Did you see, this was making the rounds,
2:55:51
I thought it was probably important to play
2:55:52
this TikTok video from a singer named Avery?
2:55:58
Oh yes, poor Avery.
2:55:59
Yeah, with the pink hair.
2:56:01
Yeah, do we know Avery?
2:56:02
Do we know any person?
2:56:03
I've never heard of her, but she sure
2:56:04
is mournful.
2:56:06
Hold on, let me see Avery.
2:56:08
Music, one more second.
2:56:09
She's British, I believe.
2:56:11
No, I don't think so.
2:56:13
Well, I know she doesn't have a British
2:56:14
accent, but I think she's maybe popular.
2:56:16
Is her name Avery Anna?
2:56:19
Let me see, music.
2:56:21
Somebody in the troll room should know.
2:56:23
No, no one in the troll room knows
2:56:25
her.
2:56:25
Avery, let's see, Avery.
2:56:29
I can't even find something.
2:56:32
Anyway, Avery.
2:56:34
So here she is with a very, very
2:56:37
sad story.
2:56:38
I just left the doctor's office.
2:56:40
I went to get a checkup because I've
2:56:42
been off of Ozempic for two months now
2:56:44
and I just wanted to see if my
2:56:46
body was in better condition, if there were
2:56:48
any permanent damages.
2:56:50
Kind of in shock right now because I
2:56:52
wasn't expecting this, but I guess Ozempic can
2:56:58
cause bone density loss and I didn't think
2:57:01
that that would happen to me because I
2:57:04
was only on it for a year, but
2:57:07
I have significant bone loss.
2:57:09
I have osteoporosis and osteopenia.
2:57:14
I don't know, there's like several of them
2:57:16
that I have.
2:57:17
I wasn't expecting that, but that's what happens
2:57:21
if you use Ozempic for weight loss and
2:57:26
you lose too much weight.
2:57:28
This is horrible.
2:57:29
I have a song by Avery.
2:57:32
Let's see, let's get to the hook.
2:57:35
Okay.
2:57:36
No, don't need to hear that.
2:57:38
That's very sad.
2:57:39
Don't talk about that.
2:57:43
That was the only Ozempic information I got
2:57:48
this week and it was from Avery and
2:57:50
that was just very sad.
2:57:51
I think it's probably been taken down.
2:57:53
President Trump announced the Iron Dome.
2:57:55
Very excited about that.
2:57:57
Very excited.
2:57:57
We're going to be safe.
2:57:59
We're going to be very safe from hypersonic
2:58:02
missiles, anything that Russia can throw at us.
2:58:05
Too bad for those Europeans, though.
2:58:08
They're not...
2:58:09
Mark was out trying to get people to
2:58:13
pony up again, spreading fear.
2:58:15
Mr. NATO, Rutte.
2:58:16
NATO Secretary General Mark Rutte warned Russia was
2:58:20
trying to destabilize countries in the alliance as
2:58:23
he called on members to increase defense spending.
2:58:26
Rutte spoke at a joint briefing alongside Portuguese
2:58:28
Prime Minister Luis Montenegro as he visited Lisbon
2:58:32
on Monday.
2:58:33
We also know that the goal of 2
2:58:35
% now set a decade ago will not
2:58:38
be enough to meet the challenges of tomorrow.
2:58:41
Not enough.
2:58:41
The threat from Russia may seem distant, but
2:58:44
let me assure you, it is not.
2:58:47
Russian ships and long-range bombers menace the
2:58:50
Portuguese coast.
2:58:51
Portugal's vital undersea infrastructure is squarely in Russia's
2:58:55
sights.
2:58:56
During the press conference, Rutte also addressed recent
2:58:59
cable ruptures in the Baltic Sea, saying NATO
2:59:02
was operating alongside allies to enable a fast
2:59:05
and coordinated response.
2:59:07
Yeah, OK.
2:59:08
Bombers.
2:59:09
The bombers, they've got bombers.
2:59:10
They're getting your cables.
2:59:13
So very, very scary.
2:59:15
It is so scary.
2:59:16
So scary, so scary.
2:59:18
Do you have any thoughts on the Federal
2:59:20
Reserve not cutting rates while the European Central
2:59:22
Bank did cut rates by 20 or 25
2:59:24
basis points?
2:59:27
The market didn't like it, but no, I
2:59:30
have no thoughts on it.
2:59:31
It should raise rates the way that the
2:59:34
economy's doing so well.
2:59:35
Well, that's not what the President wants.
2:59:37
He's mad.
2:59:38
No, of course not, because you jack up
2:59:39
everything if you lower the rates.
2:59:41
He's mad.
2:59:43
Overheat.
2:59:43
No, no, he wants the rates to go
2:59:45
down.
2:59:46
Yeah, I know he does, because it makes
2:59:47
him look good.
2:59:48
Oh, OK.
2:59:51
There's that.
2:59:53
I have the Trump legal update, but that's
2:59:55
kind of boring.
2:59:56
I do have Robert Menendez, I guess, was
3:00:00
thrown in the slammer.
3:00:01
Eleven years.
3:00:03
Eleven years.
3:00:04
That guy was so corrupt.
3:00:06
But I do have an idiot on TikTok,
3:00:08
which I think is the book I want
3:00:10
to play.
3:00:10
I was looking for a way to get
3:00:10
out of here.
3:00:11
OK.
3:00:11
Idiot on TikTok.
3:00:13
TikTok idiot.
3:00:14
Talk idiot.
3:00:15
I think it's really funny that I have
3:00:17
to explain political vendettas and retribution to you,
3:00:22
because it's all I've been hearing about for
3:00:25
the last eight years, is how your guy,
3:00:28
everyone else has it out for him.
3:00:31
But unlike your guy, who thinks that everybody
3:00:36
has it out for him, he absolutely has
3:00:41
it out for other people.
3:00:43
We're going to have to pay double for
3:00:44
coffee, because he's pissed at the president of
3:00:47
Colombia because he didn't want to take Mexicans
3:00:49
that he wanted to deport to Colombia because
3:00:51
they were brown.
3:00:53
Your guy specializes in vendettas.
3:00:56
So yes, Biden pardoned his loved ones because
3:01:01
he doesn't want to see them drugged through
3:01:02
the mud by a sociopath.
3:01:05
Dad.
3:01:06
Man, I'm surprised you didn't get the Selena
3:01:09
Gomez.
3:01:11
I don't understand her.
3:01:12
She's crying and bawling over what?
3:01:15
Her people.
3:01:18
She's Italian.
3:01:21
She's Italian?
3:01:22
Her mom's Italian and her dad, I think,
3:01:25
is Mexican.
3:01:25
She's from Texas.
3:01:27
She's from Texas, yeah.
3:01:30
She got nothing but grief.
3:01:34
She had to take it down.
3:01:35
She took the post down.
3:01:36
And she's going to eat it for that.
3:01:39
She's a billionaire.
3:01:40
She's on the list.
3:01:42
Do you really think she's a billionaire?
3:01:44
No, I don't.
3:01:44
But she's on the list.
3:01:46
She's not starving to death, that's for sure.
3:02:01
Perfect.
3:02:04
Guess who's also not a billionaire?
3:02:06
Us!
3:02:07
However, we do have people who like what
3:02:10
we do.
3:02:10
They like the value they get from the
3:02:12
show, and they like sending value back to
3:02:14
us, and we appreciate it.
3:02:15
Here is the supporters, donors, value returners for
3:02:20
Episode 17, $34.50 and above.
3:02:23
Yes, starting with Reneade 6 in Caldwell, Texas.
3:02:28
This is a switcheroo for Sparkles of Chaos.
3:02:31
Sparkles!
3:02:32
For her 30th birthday.
3:02:36
133.33 Harry Pilgrim in Fredericksburg, Virginia.
3:02:43
An oldie but a goodie.
3:02:45
Our good old Harry.
3:02:46
He's been around for a while.
3:02:47
Harry's been around for a while.
3:02:49
131.91 And this is celebrating 34 years
3:02:53
of marriage to a smoking hot redhead named
3:02:56
Jennifer.
3:02:57
Nice.
3:03:00
Michael Formanek in Maple Grove, Minnesota.
3:03:04
124.33 Ash in Texas and Flower Mound,
3:03:09
Texas.
3:03:10
Flower Mound.
3:03:10
1, 2, 3, 4, 5.
3:03:12
Flower Mound's a burial site.
3:03:15
I didn't know this.
3:03:17
Actually, I did know.
3:03:19
I think I've seen it.
3:03:20
Yeah, it's a big mound.
3:03:22
It's like, what's that?
3:03:23
It's a burial site.
3:03:24
Yeah, I've seen it.
3:03:26
It's like a hill.
3:03:29
Kurt Binney in Saint-Lazare, Quebec, Canada.
3:03:33
110.
3:03:35
That's a birthday call-out.
3:03:39
Bronwyn Dawes.
3:03:41
Bronwyn Dawes in New South Wales, Australia.
3:03:46
105.35 That could be 200.
3:03:49
Not quite.
3:03:52
Jason Marrerer in Vancouver, Washington.
3:03:55
$100.
3:03:56
Best place in the world.
3:03:57
Anonymous in Columbus, Ohio.
3:03:59
100.
3:04:01
Daniela Pompo in Los Angeles, California.
3:04:05
100.
3:04:06
Good job, guys!
3:04:08
She writes.
3:04:09
Sir Scott and Dame Elizabeth in Gardner, Kansas.
3:04:12
100.
3:04:13
That's another happy birthday.
3:04:14
This is a switcheroo for Brother Ken.
3:04:17
A switcheroo for Ken.
3:04:19
Amy Gelinas.
3:04:21
Gelinas, Gelinas in Bureau in Washington.
3:04:23
You all have been there if you've been
3:04:24
to the airport.
3:04:24
$100.
3:04:26
Alexander Bell.
3:04:27
Opelika, Alabama.
3:04:30
8888.
3:04:30
Sir Fast Eddie in Alameda.
3:04:34
8008.
3:04:36
Kevin McLaughlin in Concord, North Carolina.
3:04:38
Continues with the 8008.
3:04:40
Unbroken streak.
3:04:42
Unbroken streak.
3:04:43
For years now.
3:04:43
Years.
3:04:44
Years.
3:04:45
Show after show after show.
3:04:47
Donation is the Archduke of Loon, the Love
3:04:48
of American Boots.
3:04:49
He's gotta be moved up from Archduke by
3:04:51
now.
3:04:52
What is above Archduke?
3:04:55
Grand Duke.
3:04:56
Oh, I'm sorry.
3:04:57
Yes, Grand Duke.
3:04:58
Then we'd have to have a jingle.
3:05:01
Someone's gonna have to do the math on
3:05:03
this.
3:05:04
Jorge Alvarez in Ponte Verde Beach, Florida.
3:05:08
7171.
3:05:10
That is sometimes pronounced George.
3:05:13
Or Jorge.
3:05:16
Craig Kohler in Evansville, Indiana.
3:05:20
6502.
3:05:20
Which is a chip.
3:05:24
I'm the only one who can say it.
3:05:26
Nobody wants to donate 6502.
3:05:29
No one cares about your chip.
3:05:31
The original chip in the Apple II.
3:05:35
The Donnellys in up Lamoore, UK.
3:05:40
There it is.
3:05:41
There it is.
3:05:42
Our one UK donor.
3:05:44
Yeah, you're right.
3:05:46
6354.
3:05:48
33, I'm gonna read the note then.
3:05:50
33 is the magic number.
3:05:52
My smoking hot husband and I just bought
3:05:53
a house and I based the house purchase
3:05:56
price on the 33 theory and it worked.
3:06:00
Well, here it is.
3:06:01
Keep reading.
3:06:03
Here's the 5333 pounds.
3:06:07
No, she says, I promised to myself that
3:06:10
if we bought the house, I would donate.
3:06:13
Not quite sure how that works.
3:06:14
Yeah, she wrote that right there.
3:06:15
I left it out.
3:06:17
She's in Scotland.
3:06:18
Scotland.
3:06:19
Doesn't count.
3:06:22
Jamie Buell in Vista, California.
3:06:25
6006.
3:06:26
Norman Wetz in Kailua, Kona.
3:06:32
Hawaii.
3:06:34
5798.
3:06:36
Mahala.
3:06:37
Michael Eger Eger Eger Eger in North Bethesda,
3:06:43
Maryland.
3:06:44
5747.
3:06:45
57.
3:06:46
And he's got a note there about the
3:06:48
meetup coming up.
3:06:49
The Outer Swamp meetup.
3:06:50
Next meetup, Thursday, February 13th, 6 o'clock.
3:06:53
Java Nation in Rockville.
3:06:56
Says, it's noteworthy how many dudes named Ben
3:06:59
attend these events.
3:07:01
Of course.
3:07:06
that's near Spooksville.
3:07:10
Spooks.
3:07:11
State of Spooks.
3:07:12
Dame Tracy and Sir Canebrake in St. George,
3:07:16
Louisiana.
3:07:17
5510.
3:07:17
John Matero in Media, Pennsylvania.
3:07:22
5377.
3:07:23
The Shouts to Billy and Spud.
3:07:27
Kevin Adam in Clover, South Carolina.
3:07:31
5272.
3:07:32
Rebecca Hooper in Pinehurst, North Carolina.
3:07:35
5272.
3:07:38
She likes the newsletter.
3:07:40
No, she loves the newsletter.
3:07:43
She loves the newsletter.
3:07:45
And she says it brings your readers joy.
3:07:49
Tom, it's because of the memes.
3:07:53
Which, another thing Adam hates.
3:07:55
I don't hate them.
3:07:56
I hate bad, oh, okay, fine.
3:07:59
I hate them.
3:08:00
You're right, I hate them all.
3:08:02
There you go.
3:08:03
Now you're being honest with yourself.
3:08:05
Look it up.
3:08:07
Thomas Key in Lansing, Kansas.
3:08:11
5272.
3:08:12
Eric Hochul.
3:08:13
This guy's been with us forever.
3:08:16
He's in Bouleros, Deutschland.
3:08:18
Yes.
3:08:19
$52.
3:08:20
And now we go to the $50 donor
3:08:22
starting with Richard Gardner, who I believe is
3:08:24
in New York.
3:08:24
No.
3:08:26
Richard, I think.
3:08:26
Oh no, yeah, Richard.
3:08:28
Andrew Richard?
3:08:29
I'm not sure.
3:08:29
He might be.
3:08:32
Aaron Weisgerber in Bend, Oregon.
3:08:35
John Taylor in Florissant, Colorado.
3:08:37
Bobby Bowe in Bluegrass, Iowa.
3:08:41
Leif Thompson in Meridian, Idaho.
3:08:45
David Asari in West Hollywood, California.
3:08:50
Josh Kwa in St. Catherine's, Ontario, Canada.
3:08:55
Do you see if there's anything in there
3:08:57
we need?
3:08:57
Yeah, I'll read it because it was a
3:08:59
$75 Canadian.
3:09:01
Listen to that math, huh?
3:09:03
I'm only able to send you a small
3:09:04
donation.
3:09:05
I'm hoping you guys will wish my brother
3:09:06
Nicholas a happy 24th birthday at some point
3:09:09
on the Thursday, January 30 show.
3:09:10
To say he's been an avid fan of
3:09:12
yours is an understatement.
3:09:13
He's been a dedicated listener, rarely missing an
3:09:16
episode since the early COVID days.
3:09:18
He got me into the show several months
3:09:19
ago, and I myself become a huge fan.
3:09:23
Excuse me.
3:09:24
I should have hit the cough button.
3:09:25
He's the best brother a guy can ask
3:09:27
for, even though he's younger by age.
3:09:28
I find myself looking up to him often.
3:09:29
Keep on rocking our socks off twice a
3:09:31
week, Adam and John, and happy birthday, Nick.
3:09:37
Onward with Joshua Johnson in Omaha, Nebraska, and
3:09:40
last on our list is good old Dame
3:09:43
Rita.
3:09:43
She's always there from Sparks just outside of
3:09:47
Reno, Nevada.
3:09:48
$50, and that concludes our list of producers,
3:09:52
well-wishers, and people we have to thank
3:09:54
for show 1734 because they've done a good
3:09:57
job of keeping us going.
3:09:59
Yes, they have.
3:09:59
We appreciate you so much.
3:10:01
Thanks to everybody who came in under $50
3:10:02
for reasons of anonymity, because we will not
3:10:05
read any of those, and several of those,
3:10:07
of course, are sustaining donations.
3:10:09
Consider doing that no matter what you donate.
3:10:11
Any amount, any frequency, it's all up to
3:10:13
you.
3:10:13
It is all value for value.
3:10:15
NoahJennerDonations.com It's your birthday, birthday of Noah
3:10:20
Jenner Sean Dietrich turned 33 on the 28th.
3:10:23
We say happy birthday to him.
3:10:25
Renegade6 wishes sparkles of chaos a happy one
3:10:28
for today.
3:10:29
Kurt Binney is celebrating today, and my buddy
3:10:32
Jimmy Pruitt here in Fredericksburg, also celebrating his
3:10:35
birthday.
3:10:36
Sir Scott and Dame Elizabeth wish their brother
3:10:38
Ken a happy one, turned 61 on the
3:10:40
30th.
3:10:41
Happy birthday to Dr. Ken and Sammy celebrating
3:10:44
their 60th anniversary today, and they never had
3:10:47
a fight.
3:10:48
And finally, Joshua Kwa wishes his brother Nicholas
3:10:51
a happy birthday.
3:10:52
He turns 24 today as well.
3:10:54
Happy birthday for everybody here at the Best
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Podcast in the Universe.
3:10:57
It's your birthday, yeah!
3:10:59
Two knights to bring up on stage, on
3:11:01
the podium here, so I will bring out
3:11:03
my double-knighting blade, if you've got something.
3:11:06
Here you go.
3:11:06
Very nice one.
3:11:08
That's the Mother of Pearl handle.
3:11:11
I like that.
3:11:12
Aaron Cole and J.D. step on up.
3:11:14
Both of you are about to come knight
3:11:15
to the Noah Jenner Roundtable.
3:11:16
I am very proud to pronounce the K
3:11:18
.D. as Sir Aaron Cole of the Strawberry
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Fog and Sarcastic the Nomad.
3:11:24
You asked for specifics at the Roundtable.
3:11:27
I have them here for you.
3:11:28
Brisket and some bourbon.
3:11:29
Tam-do 12-year-old and lamb chops.
3:11:31
In case you want it, we've got hookers
3:11:32
and blow-ring boys and Chardonnay.
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We also have cowgirls and coffin varnished.
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Rubenesque women and rosé, geishas and saké, vodka,
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vanilla, bonhits and bourbon, sparkling cider and escorts,
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This is a favorite.
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Best milk and pabulum or the mutton and
3:11:47
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It's always here for all of our knights.
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Thank you very much for supporting us.
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Doesn't matter how long it takes you.
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And please send us your ring size, the
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And of course that always comes with wax,
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which you can use the rings, the Signet
3:12:07
ring, to seal your important correspondence and a
3:12:09
certificate of authenticity.
3:12:10
Once again, welcome to the Roundtable, our two
3:12:13
brand new knights.
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That's right.
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Connection is protection.
3:12:24
If you go with an attitude of gratitude,
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you will find out that the people at
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the meetups are your first responders in an
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emergency.
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They are producer-organized and you can find
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at Cherry Street Brewing in Alpharetta, Georgia.
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Saturday, to the Best of My Ability Meetup,
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2 o'clock at Reggie's at Reggie's in
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Chicago, Illinois.
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That's a good one.
3:12:49
And we do want reports.
3:12:50
We didn't get any reports for today's show,
3:12:52
which is kind of disappointing.
3:12:53
Then on Saturday, oh, it's the Get John
3:12:56
Under the House Meetup 6.0 in Northern
3:12:58
Silicon Valley at 3.33 p.m. Club
3:13:01
Mallard, Albany, California.
3:13:04
It's a home game for you, John.
3:13:05
Everybody will be expecting you to show up.
3:13:08
Oh yeah.
3:13:09
And bring your kids.
3:13:11
They may or may not.
3:13:12
They're probably still going to be sick.
3:13:14
No.
3:13:14
No.
3:13:15
Yeah, that's no good.
3:13:17
Is Mimi coming?
3:13:17
No, Mimi's not there.
3:13:18
She's up in North right now.
3:13:21
Also on Saturday, in case you're not in
3:13:23
Northern Silicon Valley, Dayton, Ohio, search for the
3:13:26
actual tinfoil Meetup 5.30 in Dublin Pub,
3:13:30
Dayton, Ohio.
3:13:31
And on our next show day, Sunday, Too
3:13:33
Many Kegs!
3:13:34
I see what you did there.
3:13:36
3.30 at McGillin's Old Ale House in
3:13:39
Philadelphia, Pennsylvania.
3:13:41
Organized by your local 76.
3:13:42
These are just a few of the meetups
3:13:44
that are available at knowagendameetups.com.
3:13:46
I'm looking down the list if we have
3:13:47
any international.
3:13:50
We have Ottawa on the 22nd of February.
3:13:53
Safenim in the Netherlands, March 29th.
3:13:56
There's too many to mention.
3:13:57
Go to knowagendameetups.com.
3:13:59
That's where you can find all of them.
3:14:00
If you can't find one near you, start
3:14:02
one yourself.
3:14:02
It's easy and always a party.
3:14:42
Goodness gracious.
3:14:44
Goodness gracious.
3:14:46
That's right.
3:14:48
Do I have another one?
3:14:50
Yes, this one here.
3:14:51
That was really cool.
3:14:53
Come on, those are all good.
3:14:56
I think only one of them is good,
3:14:58
and that was goodness gracious.
3:14:59
The other two were negative about the show.
3:15:02
I didn't like that.
3:15:03
I only have two.
3:15:06
And they're very positive.
3:15:08
One is more than good.
3:15:09
More than good for a podcast.
3:15:12
You're killing me with these.
3:15:14
These are so good.
3:15:15
This is more than good as an ISO.
3:15:17
For a podcast.
3:15:19
And then the best.
3:15:21
This is simply the best anyone can do.
3:15:24
More than good for a podcast.
3:15:26
You just win with that.
3:15:28
Yeah, it's a winner.
3:15:29
I can't beat that.
3:15:30
Here we go, everybody.
3:15:31
It's time once again for the famous John's
3:15:33
tip of the day.
3:15:39
The JCD.
3:15:41
And sometimes Adam.
3:15:44
Created by Dana Brunetti.
3:15:45
Everyone's excited.
3:15:46
Everyone's excited for John's tip of the day.
3:15:48
It's an exciting thing.
3:15:51
This is one of those really great tips
3:15:53
like the people finder tip.
3:15:55
That was not a great tip.
3:15:56
That was a horrible tip.
3:15:58
Horrible.
3:16:00
A lot of people found relatives.
3:16:02
They did a lot of things.
3:16:03
I know it's for you because you had
3:16:05
a picture of your house.
3:16:06
I did not like the tip of the
3:16:07
day.
3:16:08
This one's a killer.
3:16:10
This is a website.
3:16:15
Temp-mail.org slash E-N for English.
3:16:23
Temp.
3:16:24
Say again?
3:16:25
Temp-mail.
3:16:28
This is a temporary email.
3:16:31
Mail?
3:16:32
Yeah.
3:16:33
This is a temporary email address generator.
3:16:36
You can sign up for websites, protect yourself
3:16:39
from spam, because you sign up with a
3:16:41
fake email that you can use, and then
3:16:45
you can confirm, because I always say, well,
3:16:46
this isn't a joke, confirmation.
3:16:48
And while you're on the site, you can
3:16:50
pick up that confirmation right there on the
3:16:52
spot.
3:16:53
Yeah, that's me, sign me up.
3:16:56
And so, now you have a fake email.
3:16:59
So this is for people who do, I
3:17:03
say espionage, poison pen letters.
3:17:09
Bitcoin scams.
3:17:11
Anything you want, I would say this is
3:17:14
a bit sketchy in that regard, but at
3:17:16
the same time, this could come in very
3:17:18
handy.
3:17:19
Give that URL again, please.
3:17:22
temp, T-E-M-P, dash, mail, dot,
3:17:27
org, slash, E-N for English.
3:17:31
Very nice, well, you can find that tip
3:17:33
on noagendatipoftheday.net, or noagendafun.com, and of
3:17:39
course, we are grateful to Dana Brunetti.
3:17:42
Created by Dana Brunetti, the No Agenda Tip
3:17:45
of the Day.
3:17:47
The No Agenda Tip of the Day, starring
3:17:48
John C4, Adam Hurd.
3:17:54
Ah, there you go, that wraps up our
3:17:56
broadcast day.
3:17:57
We hope that we have settled your amygdalas
3:17:59
down to their proper size, and you're feeling
3:18:01
good about the world once again.
3:18:03
Do not be worried, everything will be okay.
3:18:06
You can't add a single hour to your
3:18:07
life by worrying about anything.
3:18:09
Just worry about us coming back on Sunday.
3:18:11
That's all you really need to worry about.
3:18:13
We hope we'll make it.
3:18:15
John's got a lot of sick people around
3:18:16
him, so stay safe, John, stay safe.
3:18:20
Up next on No Agenda Stream, and of
3:18:23
course, TrollRoom.io and the Modern Podcast Apps,
3:18:25
it's the Millennial Media Offensive.
3:18:28
It's episode 155 for them, The African Itch,
3:18:31
well worth the listen.
3:18:32
We have end of show mixes from, let
3:18:36
me see, we've got David Kekta, we've got
3:18:39
Matt Lazari with some classics, and why don't
3:18:44
we know who this one is from, the
3:18:45
6K Dimebag.
3:18:46
I'll find it and put it in the
3:18:47
credits.
3:18:48
Coming to you from the heart of the
3:18:49
Texas Hill Country in the morning, everybody, I'm
3:18:52
Adam Currie.
3:18:53
And from Northern Silicon Valley, where it's gonna
3:18:56
finally rain again a little bit, keep us
3:18:58
from getting any fires, I'm John C.
3:19:00
Dvorak.
3:19:00
We return on Sunday with more of your
3:19:02
media deconstruction, not coming to you from the
3:19:05
White House press office, press room, because we're
3:19:08
not gonna do that.
3:19:09
Remember us at noagendadonations.com until Sunday.
3:19:12
Adios, mofos, hui hui, and such.
3:19:15
We're on the process of euthanizing.
3:19:33
We're gonna die.
3:19:34
Morbidity and mortality.
3:19:36
We have 13 recalls telling hospitals how they
3:19:39
can protect patients and protect their own health
3:19:41
workers.
3:19:42
The CDC is warning that raw milk from
3:19:45
an infected cow, not only just drinking it,
3:19:48
but potentially even just being splashed in the
3:19:51
face with it.
3:19:54
Contact with raw milk from an infected cow
3:19:56
is one of the ways people can be
3:19:57
exposed to this emerging epidemic of bird flu.
3:20:06
This is a huge blunder.
3:20:11
There's one thing that's interesting that no one's
3:20:13
picked up on.
3:20:15
We want you to be safe.
3:20:20
The Department for Environment, Food, and Rural Affairs
3:20:23
in the East Rising will be humanely killed.
3:20:30
Hey, citizens.
3:20:33
I'm back.
3:20:34
In the morning.
3:20:38
Let me ask you about China.
3:20:40
How could I get to China?
3:20:40
I dislike China.
3:20:42
I love China.
3:20:44
Don't do that.
3:20:44
You know, you know, I love them.
3:20:48
I love China.
3:20:50
Space Force.
3:20:52
You know, you know, I love them.
3:20:56
I love China.
3:20:58
Space Force.
3:20:59
Don't do that.
3:21:05
Don't trust China.
3:21:06
China is asshole.
3:21:13
Don't trust China.
3:21:14
China is asshole.
3:21:15
Don't do that.
3:21:17
I love China.
3:21:17
China all the time.
3:21:19
Papu-Tata-Ching-Ching.
3:21:21
Ching-Chong-Chong-Ching-Chong.
3:21:23
Big League China.
3:21:25
I love China.
3:21:27
China all the time.
3:21:29
China now.
3:21:30
Don't do that.
3:21:31
Are you talking to me?
3:21:33
Are you talking to me?
3:21:34
Let's say China.
3:21:36
China.
3:21:37
China.
3:21:38
China.
3:21:40
China.
3:21:41
China now.
3:21:44
China.
3:21:45
Don't do that.
3:21:46
You know, you know, I love them.
3:21:50
I love China.
3:21:52
Space Force.
3:21:54
You know, you know, I love them.
3:21:58
I love China.
3:22:00
Space Force.
3:22:01
Don't do that.
3:22:07
Don't trust China.
3:22:17
So don't tell me about China, I know
3:22:19
China, people from China, they love me, people
3:22:21
say you don't like China, I like China,
3:22:24
buy toys from China, Chongqing China, Chongqing China,
3:22:31
Asshole, don't laugh, I have to have my
3:22:34
China, how can I dislike China, I go
3:22:37
to China, I love them, China now, bing
3:22:41
bing, bong bong, bing bing bing, China, China
3:22:47
asshole, don't laugh, why you are laughing, shut
3:22:52
up.
3:22:52
I went back and I looked, this is
3:22:54
cringeworthy, bought a dime bag of drugs on
3:22:58
Silk Road for 6 Bitcoin, $600,000 I
3:23:03
lost for the show, for a $10 bag
3:23:07
of weed or whatever you bought, I remember
3:23:12
it came through the mail too, and it
3:23:14
wasn't even all that good, it was stems
3:23:15
and seeds, horrible, I got chipped, for the
3:23:21
show man, it's a service we provide to
3:23:23
the show, what?
3:23:25
You spent 6 Bitcoin on drugs?
3:23:30
Exactly, that's how I felt.
3:23:48
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