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Hey man, tell Joe, tell Joe, tell Joe!
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Adam Curry, John C.
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Dvorak.
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This Wednesday, January 30th, 2025, this is your
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award-winning give-on-Asian-media-assassination episode
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1734.
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This is no agenda.
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Parsing the prescriptives and broadcasting live from the
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heart of the Texas Hill Country right here
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in FEMA Region No.
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6.
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In the morning, everybody.
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I'm Adam Curry.
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And from Northern Silicon Valley, where I've determined
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that Vogue magazine is an outlet of the
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American Communist Party.
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I'm John C.
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Dvorak.
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In the morning.
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What magazine now?
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Vogue.
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Oh, Vogue?
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Vogue is a commie rag?
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Is that what you're saying?
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Well, I, you didn't, you know, when they
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did this slam of poor Melania Trump's official
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portrait.
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Oh, have they done that again?
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Did they publish it?
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Last time they said she looks like a
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freelance magician with that outfit on.
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That's a good line.
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It's funny.
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But, but then it harkens back to the
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Teen Vogue article on Marxism.
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But this is about three or four years
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ago.
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We talked about it on the show.
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They did not only an article on like
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how Marxism works, but they were advocating for
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it.
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Wow.
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For Teen, in Teen Vogue.
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Oh, no, Teen Vogue is a complete Marxist
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magazine.
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But Teen Vogue is part of Vogue.
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And the whole operation is run by Advanced
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Publications, which bought Condé Nast some years ago.
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And I think they're now suspect.
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Oh, totally.
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My, my youngest stepdaughter sometimes does production for
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some of their shoots.
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Totally, totally Marxist.
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Which is fine.
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That's fine.
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Yeah, but I think people should know.
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Before the show started, we were discussing the
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origin of mind your P's and Q's.
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As I said to John, I think you
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should mind your P's and Q's, son.
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Yes, and I was condemning him for drinking
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too much coffee in the morning.
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Mind your P's and Q's is an English
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language expression meaning mind your manners, mind your
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language, be on your best behavior, or watch
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what you're doing.
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Yeah.
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One explanation favored in Letters to the Editors
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of Notes and Queries, dated from 1851, is
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a literal interpretation of the saying regarding possible
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confusion between the lowercase letters P and Q
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in schoolwork or typesetting.
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So you were right.
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You were very close to being correct.
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I was correct.
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Story of your life.
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Story of your life.
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Very close to being correct.
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Very close.
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I was close enough is the way it
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goes.
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Close enough.
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Unlike the close enough mishap that took place,
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which you have to discuss.
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I do.
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And it's always interesting how it went really
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fast this time.
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Like, oh, it was remote control.
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Oh, come on.
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The stuff that came in is ridiculous.
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It is.
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And there's two things that bother me.
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One is the lack of information, of which,
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of course, there's not going to be that
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much.
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The second one was the fact that it
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took up all the airwaves on all the
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networks for hours on end, and there was
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nothing to show or see except the one
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little looped video plus a million.
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I don't know how many police there are
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in that area, but there must be 10
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,000.
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And they just kept showing this one shot,
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and they had nothing to talk about.
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Why do they do this?
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What is the point?
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Oh, I can answer that question.
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Many of these news models are in Washington,
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D.C., or commute into Washington, D.C.,
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have been in Washington, D.C., regularly to
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get their marching orders, to talk to their
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inside sources and people familiar with the president's
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thinking.
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And they love this airport.
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So they're like, oh, man, that could have
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been me.
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Let's do some more story on it.
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It's all about them.
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Well, that actually brought Swalwell on, of all
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people from California.
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But he flew in like two or three
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planes before the crash.
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And it was the same thing.
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It could have been me.
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Yeah, of course.
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As always, it could have been me.
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Well, that's how it works with air disasters.
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Of course, everyone knows it could have been
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me.
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I am somewhat uniquely qualified because I am
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both a helicopter pilot and a fixed-wing
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pilot.
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And this seems quite obvious to me what
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happened here.
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This is actually Sky News, I think, in
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Australia.
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This guy came pretty close to what was
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going on, I think.
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I understand, though.
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Very shortly before this accident, the aircraft in
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question, the Bombardier CR7, was actually cleared, asked
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to operate off a shorter runway, runway 33.
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So the fact that they changed the runways,
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I mean, that presumably is relatively common, is
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it not?
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It is relatively common.
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The challenge, though, of course, is that it
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means for aircraft departing, that's fine.
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But for an aircraft that's already set up
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to land on a main runway, he's now
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got to fly an S-curve to actually
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reposition himself to come on a straight approach
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down on runway 33.
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That means that he's actually in a different
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position.
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He's now over the Potomac.
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Why is this important?
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Because for the military helicopter pilot, his brain,
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which they call situational awareness, but you've got
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a brain map of where everything is, you'll
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have assumed everything is on approach to the
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main runway or departing the main runway.
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You won't have factored in.
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This one aircraft that's now coming in, doing
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a descent over the Potomac.
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He's pretty close.
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It is a situational awareness issue.
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And this is a known procedure to divert
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because it's a very busy airspace.
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Probably too busy because everyone loves it so
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much and want to go into DCA instead
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of the alternative.
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It's just closer.
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Well, yeah, the big difference is about an
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hour because DCA is right downtown and Dulles
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is a million miles away.
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Yeah.
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It's like Midway and O'Hare.
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So, the military are on a different frequency.
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So, he wasn't necessarily monitoring what was going,
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the pilot.
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And this was an annual, well, they call
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it a re-inspection flight, which is kind
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of an, all pilots go through it, an
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annual inspection.
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You fly with instructors.
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In this case, a crew of three.
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So, they may not have completely been aware
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of the change that was made for that
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flight.
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And having flown at night, and this is
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the same thing with the drones over New
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Jersey.
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It's not easy to see things.
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It's not easy.
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He probably was looking at, or what they
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thought they were looking at was American Airlines
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3130, which was somewhat behind the aircraft that
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got hit.
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And they may have even had all eyes
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inside the cockpit.
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You know, this happens sometimes.
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It just happens where no one is looking
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outside.
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You're doing your procedures.
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You're looking at the instruments.
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It's a night flight.
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The whole point is to, you know, is
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flying at night.
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And it's just not easy to see things.
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And from what I could tell, I actually
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have a little bit of the audio because
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you hear, the tower hears, you can hear
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the collision alert in the tower.
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And it's just seconds before it happens.
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That's the collision alert.
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So, the helicopter says aircraft in sight, visual
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separation.
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He could not have been looking at that.
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And he's looking at it from the side.
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He must have been looking at a different
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aircraft.
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It's so easy when you're, I mean, it's
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happened so often.
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I've even, in the U.K., I was
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setting up for an approach, and it turns
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out I was looking at the wrong airport.
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I mean, at night, things are very different.
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This is why planes sometimes land on the
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taxiway.
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It's just, it's not easy to fly at
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night.
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And then here, of course.
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There it is, boom.
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He says visual, and then just seconds later,
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it crashes right into it.
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But there's nothing more, nothing less than a
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very bad day.
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Now, the president went out and talked to
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the press this morning, and I watched most
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of that.
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He said, we're going to get to the
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bottom of it.
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Mistakes were made.
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I mean, seriously, I think mistakes were made
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because when you have this helicopter at basically
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the same altitude within, you know, 50 feet
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of the incoming regional jet.
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I mean, it would have been very easy
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for the controller to say, okay, I mean,
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you can do a lot with the helicopter.
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You can turn on a dime.
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You can do a lot.
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I don't know exactly how fast they're going,
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but you can do a lot of different
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things.
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And the controller took it for, I'm not
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blaming the controller or anybody really, took for
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granted that when the pilot said visual, that
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he saw it, and that it was visual.
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But they were already kind of, I mean,
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you know, when you, when you're flying and
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you see another plane, you know that you're
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on a collision course when it looks like
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the other plane is not moving.
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So, and that's what you train for.
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It's like, I'm looking at this aircraft.
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It's not moving.
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That means I'm on a direct collision course
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with it, if you're at the same altitude.
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So, they just didn't see it.
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And then there's all this talk of night
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vision goggles.
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You know, you're not going to, it's going
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to be even worse with night vision goggles,
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all those lights of DC.
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That's going to bleed everything out.
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So, it's just a horrible situation.
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And it's maybe not even necessarily anybody's fault
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other than, you know, President Trump took it
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to DEI.
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He actually went there.
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Yeah, you know, that was going to be
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expected.
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Yeah.
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And he was, it was a light touch
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on it.
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But, so, this is just a bad day.
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And, you know, stuff happens.
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Lots of people die in traffic accidents all
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day long.
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30,000 a year.
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Yeah.
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You don't hear about it.
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And this is just, it's a crappy one
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because people fly and everyone feels that pain.
10:25
So, but the conspiracy, oh, it was runway
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33.
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Do you know how many runway 33's there
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are?
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It's a very typical runway heading.
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So, no conspiracy, just a bad day.
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Well, here's something for you to do.
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Explain why.
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There's not 33 runways at DCA.
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There's not.
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There's about four.
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No, that's a compass direction.
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33 degrees?
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Yes, 33.
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Well, 330 degrees, yes.
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So, when you hear runway one, that's basically
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10.
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So, 10 degrees.
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It'll be the, or 100 degrees.
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It'll be the exact opposite of the 33.
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No, I'm sorry.
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That's not true.
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I mean, so the typical headings you have
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on runways will be 27, 22, 33.
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It all has to do with the typical
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wind direction that is, that happens at that
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particular airfield.
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And there's a lot of 33 runway headings.
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So, you know, but then it's like, oh,
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33 runway heading and three people on the
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plane.
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Oh, yeah.
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Clearly remote control to kill who was on
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the plane.
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Well, it's sadly a bunch of figure skaters.
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Yeah, that was kind of tragic.
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It's always tragic.
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These things are always tragic.
11:45
And what was on a continuity of government
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flight?
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It was a training flight.
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Wow.
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No, there's been a lot of this sort
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of thing.
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It's annoying.
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I find it annoying.
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It's to be expected.
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It's to be expected.
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But it's just bad.
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It's just a bad day.
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And then the social media, there's a whole
12:06
line of tweets I ran into with these
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guys carping at each other.
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I'm a chopper pilot from the Vietnam War
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and blah, blah, blah.
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Oh, no, you're full of shit.
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You can't turn that thing off.
12:18
You can't turn off the transponder.
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Yeah, you can.
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No, you can't.
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And it just goes on forever.
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I will mention that.
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So you have something called TCAS, Traffic Collision
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Alert System.
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And it's pretty much useless below 1,000
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feet because it's going to be going off
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all the time.
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And it also doesn't give a – below
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1,000 feet, it's not going to tell
12:41
you to go up or go down.
12:43
It's just going to say traffic, traffic.
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And in busy airspace, you'll hear that thing
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a lot because it's thousands of feet separation.
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So you're just going to hear this.
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And you just want to hope that no
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one's on the same – at the same
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altitude.
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But this, again, it's military and civilian sharing
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the same airspace, different frequencies, bad day.
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Day wrecker for everybody.
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That's it.
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There's nothing more to give you on that.
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And there will be a report, and we'll
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hear something, and I'm sure somebody will give
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it.
13:18
Everyone got to get up and speak.
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You know, this was the first time for
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Pete Hegseth to speak.
13:25
J.D. Vance, our vice president, came out
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and spoke.
13:28
Everybody was all in on this because it
13:30
was bad.
13:31
And, of course, you want to keep the
13:33
– I'll just be cynical about it.
13:35
You want to keep the attention away from
13:37
the televised hearings, which is what it definitely
13:42
did, which – I don't even know if
13:45
anyone cares about these anymore.
13:46
They're so performative and everybody trying to get
13:51
their sound bite in.
13:53
And, you know, it's a yes or no
13:55
question.
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I love the yes or no thing.
13:59
It's just – I'll take that as a
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no.
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Yeah.
14:02
I'll take that as a yes.
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It really doesn't work anymore as far as
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I'm concerned.
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It just doesn't work.
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Yeah, but I think it does work.
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For who?
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We've been watching this yes or no thing.
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It works for the guy who's running for
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re-election.
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Yeah, okay.
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Good point.
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It's not working for the hearings because everyone
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knows they're all full of crap.
14:24
And, in fact, Kennedy himself – I have
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a bunch of Kennedy clips, obviously.
14:27
Yeah, that's good.
14:28
And Kennedy himself – I don't have this
14:31
clip, but he says, you know, you guys
14:33
used to all be my friends, all you
14:36
Democrats.
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And I know what you're doing.
14:39
And it's like this is what you have
14:41
to do.
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And he goes on and on.
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Because he does.
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He's not an idiot.
14:47
But to listen to these guys widen –
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and then the thing that I like the
14:53
most is that every one of these guys
14:56
who slammed on Kennedy – because there's a
14:58
real strong movement to get him in here.
15:01
All these TikTokers and Twitters and Tweeters and
15:05
all the rest of them are coming out
15:07
with, well, I can see why Elizabeth Warren
15:09
didn't.
15:09
She took $1.2 million from Big Pharma,
15:13
$1.1 million from her, this and that,
15:16
and they're just going after these people.
15:18
Well, I just wanted to say on Elizabeth
15:21
Warren, we know from firsthand sources that she
15:24
took significant amounts of money from Bose to
15:31
get this hearing aid scam.
15:32
Right, the hearing aid thing.
15:33
This is one of your pet peeves.
15:34
Well, it is because Bose – and by
15:37
the way, it failed for them – but
15:38
Bose had hearing devices which you can get
15:42
over the counter.
15:44
And they were called amplifiers or hearing –
15:47
no, I think it was hearing amplifiers.
15:49
Enhancers, I think.
15:49
They couldn't call it hearing aids.
15:52
She took the money, and she got everyone
15:55
together, and then Apple was a part of
15:58
this too.
15:58
So they could call either their software or
16:01
their hardware devices.
16:02
They could call them hearing aids, and you
16:05
can get them without assistance from an audiologist,
16:08
which is just – it's stupid.
16:11
If you really care, if you're going deaf
16:15
because you've been – if you don't care
16:17
about your hearing, just want to amp it
16:19
up and you don't want to hear Fidelity
16:22
and be able to fine-tune it, okay,
16:24
don't go to an audiologist.
16:26
But from my own personal experience, having an
16:29
audiologist is a good thing.
16:31
Because you may not know exactly what you
16:35
should be hearing, and these devices that shoot
16:38
tones into your ear, and then AI discovers
16:40
the exact frequency.
16:42
No, no, it's just not true.
16:44
It's like glasses.
16:46
You have to have the guy going, okay,
16:48
how about this?
16:49
How about that?
16:50
And you're going, I don't know.
16:52
Go back again.
16:53
That's just how it is.
16:55
A or B.
16:56
A, back again.
16:57
A or B.
16:58
This one or that one.
16:59
Okay.
17:00
Let's try this.
17:01
Oh, you can't see at all?
17:02
No.
17:02
Okay.
17:04
Okay, how about now?
17:05
It's just – that is how you –
17:06
it's not an exact science.
17:09
So she took money for that.
17:10
There's a whole – No, she is a
17:12
corrupt woman.
17:13
Yeah.
17:14
I mean – And she is like –
17:16
it's an embarrassment.
17:18
And – but Wyden was even worse.
17:21
I mean he's opened it up with a
17:23
real – let me play a clip.
17:24
Let me see.
17:24
I think I have the list, I think.
17:26
I got the list of a lot of
17:29
these people and what they took from Big
17:31
Pharma.
17:31
And you're right.
17:32
Now that we all know how it works
17:35
and I think a lot of people –
17:38
and you're right.
17:38
This is where social media of course does
17:40
a reasonably good job of saying, hey, this
17:45
guy is defending this or this lady is
17:47
defending this because this is who they represent.
17:51
They don't represent people.
17:52
They represent big interests, pharmaceutical interests being one
17:58
of them.
17:59
And this is what D.C. is full
18:01
of, is dinners and lunches and hangouts.
18:05
And I think a lot of them believe
18:07
it.
18:07
I mean graft.
18:08
Let's use the right word.
18:09
Graft or grift.
18:10
Which one is it?
18:12
Graft.
18:12
Yeah.
18:13
And I think a lot of people believe
18:15
it.
18:17
Here's the 40 studies that say that –
18:20
who was that horrible witch woman?
18:24
No, no.
18:25
It was some woman.
18:25
Oh, Smith?
18:26
No, no.
18:27
It was about – I don't even remember
18:30
what it was about.
18:31
They just brought up – it was like
18:32
bring your kitchen sink and dump it on
18:35
Kennedy's head because this is going to be
18:37
fun, people.
18:38
That's what it was.
18:39
All right.
18:39
Why don't you go ahead and start with
18:40
some of these because we might as well
18:42
get some of them out of the way.
18:44
Yeah, and I do want to say I
18:45
don't have the clip and you might –
18:47
I don't know if you have it or
18:48
not.
18:48
I have a couple.
18:49
I know, but do you have the clip
18:50
of Shanahan?
18:51
No, don't have Shanahan.
18:53
What was – I missed the Shanahan.
18:55
Shanahan, the vice president for Kennedy's campaign, the
18:59
billionaire girl.
19:00
Yeah, yes.
19:01
She came – I got to get this
19:03
clip.
19:03
Maybe I'll run it on Sunday.
19:04
She threatened, literally threatened everybody who votes no
19:09
on Kennedy with – she's going to take
19:11
her resources, and she's got plenty of them,
19:14
to go primary these people, and she named
19:18
names.
19:19
Oh, here it is.
19:19
Here it is.
19:20
Yes, please.
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Hey, everyone.
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Tomorrow is a pivotal moment in our nation's
19:24
history.
19:24
At 10 a.m. Eastern time, RFK will
19:26
sit in front of the Senate Finance Committee
19:29
for his confirmation hearing to be our nation's
19:32
next secretary of health and human services.
19:34
I urge everyone to call their U.S.
19:37
senators over the following days and demand they
19:39
vote yes on Bobby's nomination.
19:41
He is more than qualified.
19:43
He's proven, principled, and prepared to lead.
19:46
I'll list – I'll share a list below
19:48
of key senators.
19:50
If they represent your state, they need to
19:52
hear from you.
19:53
If they don't, please call your own senator
19:56
and ask them to vote yes.
19:58
We need as many votes as we can
19:59
get.
20:01
So, this hasn't been widely reported, but in
20:03
2020, I cut large checks to Chuck Schumer
20:06
to help Democrats flip two Senate seats in
20:09
Georgia from red to blue.
20:11
The two candidates I helped elect, Senator Raphael
20:15
Warnock and Senator Jon Ossoff, please know I
20:19
will be watching your votes very closely.
20:22
I will make it my personal mission that
20:24
you lose your seats in the Senate if
20:25
you vote against the future health of America's
20:28
children.
20:29
And more than that, I also want to
20:32
say to Senators Mitch McConnell, Lindsey Graham, Lisa
20:35
Markofsky, Susan Collins, Bill Cassidy, Tom Tillis, James
20:39
Lankford, Cory Booker, John Fetterman, Bernie Sanders, and
20:43
Catherine Cortez Masto, this is a bipartisan message,
20:46
and it comes directly from me.
20:48
While Bobby may be willing to play nice,
20:50
I won't.
20:51
If you vote against him, I will personally
20:53
fund challengers to primary you in your next
20:56
election, and I will enlist hundreds of thousands
20:59
to join me.
21:00
Yes, call me!
21:01
Big Pharma and Big Ag have exploited us
21:03
for far too long.
21:05
It ends now.
21:06
You're either on the side of transparency and
21:08
accountability, or you are standing in the way.
21:11
The choice is yours.
21:12
Please choose wisely.
21:14
I thought this was a bit much.
21:18
Well, that's how it goes, you know.
21:20
It could be going that way because, you
21:23
know, Musk is still irked about his one
21:25
kid transitioning.
21:27
But she took it to the level that
21:29
I've never seen anyone do.
21:30
This is open threats.
21:32
Well, what's wrong with that?
21:34
Well, that's the question.
21:36
I mean, until now, it's always been considered
21:39
bad form.
21:40
I mean, you do what Soros did.
21:42
You create the open society and then go
21:45
behind the...
21:46
No, no, that spell is broken.
21:47
It's long gone.
21:48
It's balls to the wall.
21:50
We're to the mat.
21:50
Have you seen our president?
21:52
No, no, no.
21:53
Hey, hey, you don't want to take these
21:55
people.
21:56
We're sending back tariffs.
21:58
Next week, double tariffs.
21:59
Oh, now you want to do it.
22:01
No, this is just...
22:02
it's threats.
22:03
It's threats.
22:04
This is who we are.
22:05
That's who we are now.
22:09
So we open up with Kennedy and here's
22:11
Wyden.
22:13
This is a very short clip of him.
22:17
He went on for five, six minutes slamming
22:20
Kennedy.
22:21
Now, Wyden, of course, took a lot of
22:22
money from Big Pharma.
22:24
So there's a good reason for him to
22:25
be...
22:26
and he is the co-chairman of the
22:28
finance committee.
22:30
So he got to speak and yak away
22:32
all he wanted.
22:33
And here we...
22:34
this is the best part, I think.
22:35
Committee staff have examined thousands of pages.
22:39
I forgot how he talks.
22:40
That's great.
22:41
Yeah, he talks like a...
22:43
it's not even...
22:44
I don't know how to explain it.
22:46
It's Jason Calacanis.
22:49
Committee staff have examined thousands of pages of
22:53
statements, books and podcast transcripts.
22:57
Podcasts?
22:57
In a review of his record.
22:59
I just need to...
23:00
I just need to stop for a second.
23:01
Podcasts have come quite a way, haven't they,
23:03
John?
23:05
Podcasts have come quite a way.
23:07
They're right in their media now.
23:09
It's mainstream, baby.
23:11
It's mainstream.
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No, it's mainstream.
23:13
Podcasts is...
23:13
It is mainstream.
23:14
Yeah, it is.
23:15
And people joke about...
23:16
I was watching one of these, you know,
23:18
the Fox shows where they talk about, oh,
23:19
I guess she's going to quit.
23:20
Or, you know, they're talking about Acosta for
23:23
one guy who's going to do a podcast.
23:27
And somebody says he's going to do a
23:29
podcast and a person did the joke.
23:31
I've done it a million times, which is,
23:32
well, who isn't?
23:34
Yeah.
23:34
You know, I mean, it's become such a...
23:36
it's like a trope.
23:38
I have thoughts about that for later.
23:40
The receipts show that Mr. Kennedy has embraced
23:44
conspiracy theories, quacks, charlatans, especially when it comes
23:49
to the safety and efficacy of vaccines.
23:53
He has made it his life's work to
23:56
sow doubt and discourage parents from getting their
23:59
kids life-saving vaccines.
24:02
It has been lucrative for him and put
24:05
him on the verge of immense power.
24:08
This is the profile of someone who chases
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money and influence wherever they lead, even if
24:16
that may mean the tragic deaths of children
24:19
and other vulnerable people.
24:21
See, I don't think this works anymore.
24:24
First of all, it's a blatant lie because
24:25
he's been very clear about safe and tested
24:30
vaccines.
24:31
He's been very clear about that.
24:33
And I'm sure that Wyden knows it.
24:35
They keep lying and lying and lying because
24:36
they don't want this guy in.
24:39
No, but the whole world knows, even the...
24:44
I like the way you're so cavalier with
24:47
this statement you just made.
24:49
What?
24:49
The whole world knows what?
24:52
Well, I'm about to finish the statement.
24:53
You interrupted my statement and said I was
24:55
cavalier before I even finished it.
24:57
Because the premise, I'm already disagreeing with whatever
25:00
you're going to say.
25:01
I believe that the entire world knows that
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maybe I'm not.
25:06
Maybe you're right.
25:08
Maybe I'm cavalier.
25:09
A large percentage of the world knows that
25:11
the COVID...
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Uh-oh, you changed it.
25:13
Yes, I said maybe you're right.
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It's OK.
25:15
Would you like a medal, a little star
25:17
on your forehead?
25:17
Yes, I would, actually.
25:18
You're a good doobie.
25:21
A large percentage of the population realizes that
25:25
the vaccine for COVID was not effective.
25:29
It did not prevent transmission.
25:31
It did not prevent you from getting COVID.
25:34
And I think a portion of that knows
25:37
it was probably not safe and effective.
25:39
And they're wondering why they keep getting sick.
25:42
So, you know, people are not all in
25:45
on vaccines anymore.
25:46
And the more people hear about the...
25:49
And I think this is a small percentage
25:51
who realize that in the United States that
25:54
there's immunity.
25:56
As in you can't get sued if your
25:58
product is defective.
26:00
So, this is...
26:01
It's just...
26:02
I don't know how many people are buying
26:05
it.
26:05
But that doesn't matter because it comes down
26:07
to the vote, ultimately.
26:09
No one's going to call up their senator.
26:11
Who does that anymore?
26:12
Can I text him?
26:13
Can I send him a tweet?
26:15
Can I do a TikTok?
26:16
This is passive politics.
26:18
I'm going to get on TikTok.
26:19
I'm going to give Wyden a piece of
26:21
my mind.
26:22
No one cares.
26:23
No one cares.
26:26
All right.
26:27
Back to you, Bob.
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Did you...
26:29
Was that the end of the clip?
26:31
That was...
26:31
Yes.
26:31
And the end of my rant.
26:35
Well...
26:36
Not much of a rant, Curry.
26:38
Whatever.
26:39
Whatever, he says.
26:41
Okay.
26:42
Gloves are off.
26:43
Yeah, I'm like a woman now.
26:44
Gloves are off.
26:48
Okay.
26:48
What would you like to play next?
26:50
I have Kennedy clips.
26:51
I've got a bunch of them here.
26:52
Let's go with...
26:53
One of my favorites was Bennett.
26:54
This Colorado senator comes up and he's another
26:57
stooge.
26:58
And he's the guy who was the most...
27:01
Yes, no.
27:02
Yes, no.
27:03
It's just yes or no.
27:04
It's a yes or no question.
27:05
I take that as a yes.
27:06
Say that it targets black and white people
27:09
but spared Ashkenazi...
27:10
I quoted a study...
27:12
I quoted an NIH study that showed that...
27:15
I take that as a yes.
27:16
I have to move on.
27:17
I have to move on.
27:18
Yeah.
27:19
Did you say that Lyme disease is highly
27:23
likely a materially engineered bioweapon?
27:27
I made sure I put in the highly
27:28
likely.
27:29
Did you say Lyme disease is a highly
27:32
likely militarily engineered bioweapon?
27:36
I probably did say that.
27:37
Did you say that...
27:39
Okay.
27:40
I want all of our colleagues to hear
27:42
it, Mr. Kennedy.
27:43
I want them to hear it.
27:45
You said yes.
27:46
Did you say that exposure to pesticides causes
27:49
children to become transgender?
27:52
No, I never said that.
27:53
Okay.
27:54
I have the record that I'll give to
27:55
the chairman and he can make his judgment
27:57
about what you said.
27:59
Yeah.
28:00
Oh, that's...
28:01
Which is a fungicide, I believe.
28:03
It's not a pesticide that causes the frogs
28:05
to go gay.
28:06
Yeah.
28:06
It's the...
28:07
You know what it's called.
28:08
What's it called?
28:09
You know, it's funny.
28:10
I can't remember because I played a whole
28:11
presentation on this about six years ago.
28:14
You have something to say about me.
28:15
And the professor at Cal who studied this
28:17
to death.
28:20
Yes.
28:21
And it's possible that is part of...
28:24
And this guy is going nuts.
28:26
But the Lyme disease thing, which doesn't crop
28:29
up much, but it does.
28:31
Plum Island.
28:32
That's the Plum Island story in New York.
28:34
Yeah, Plum Island.
28:35
Exactly.
28:36
I'm glad you remembered that.
28:37
Yeah, exactly.
28:37
Yeah, the Plum Island, which is where Lyme
28:39
disease seemed to have originated from.
28:41
Originated from, yeah.
28:42
And it was a military bioweapons lab.
28:47
And all of a sudden, from this area,
28:49
this new disease, Lyme disease, appears.
28:53
And so this...
28:53
Yeah.
28:54
And so this Bennett guy is an asshole,
28:57
typical Colorado guy.
28:59
Well...
29:00
All right.
29:00
Yeah, exactly.
29:01
Colorado.
29:02
I'm sorry.
29:02
Sorry, sorry, Colorado.
29:03
Now, White House was given five minutes, so
29:06
he bitched about that.
29:07
And so he decided not to ask any
29:08
questions, but just reamed Kennedy.
29:11
And I just want to play the beginning
29:13
of how he prefaced this.
29:15
I'm looking for White House.
29:17
It should be Kennedy.
29:19
Oh, I got him.
29:19
I got him.
29:19
I got him.
29:20
Senator Whitehouse.
29:21
Thank you, Chairman.
29:22
Mr. Kennedy, I only have five minutes with
29:26
you.
29:26
So...
29:27
And I've got a lot of experience with
29:29
CMS. So you're just going to have to
29:32
listen.
29:33
Now, this is another thing.
29:34
People are no longer interested in your soundbites
29:39
and your, I only have five minutes.
29:41
People have become used to the Joe Rogan
29:44
three hours.
29:46
They're like, what is this?
29:48
What is this nonsense?
29:49
Talk.
29:50
Give the guy some time.
29:52
Talk about whatever it is.
29:54
The whole thing is outdated, wrong, antiquated, and
29:58
an arachnonism, and something like that.
30:02
Arachnonism.
30:03
Arachnonism.
30:06
Anachronism.
30:07
Anachronism.
30:08
The word is anachronism.
30:10
The secret word is anachronism.
30:10
I like arachnonism.
30:12
It's like some sort of bug or something.
30:14
The secret word is anachronism.
30:16
Mm-hmm.
30:16
All right.
30:18
So here's Warren.
30:20
She does a two-parter.
30:21
Oh, my favorite.
30:22
She was by far my favorite.
30:23
I only have a couple of parts of
30:24
it.
30:24
I don't believe me.
30:25
I've cut this.
30:26
This is the shortest presentation I could do.
30:30
So she starts off with a softball, and
30:33
this is Warren 1.
30:35
So here's an easy question.
30:38
Will you commit that when you leave this
30:39
job, you will not accept compensation from a
30:42
drug company, a medical device company, a hospital
30:45
system, or a health insurer for at least
30:48
four years, including as a lobbyist or a
30:51
board member?
30:51
Can you just repeat the last part of
30:54
the question?
30:54
Can I commit to what?
30:55
You're not going to take money from drug
30:57
companies in any way, shape, or form.
30:58
Who?
30:59
Me?
31:00
Yes, you.
31:01
Oh.
31:02
I'm happy to commit to that.
31:04
Good.
31:05
That's what I figured.
31:06
I said it's an easy question to start
31:08
with.
31:08
You know what was most offensive about her
31:10
presentation is when she put her fingers together
31:13
like showing money, like her thumb and her
31:15
fingers, getting money, getting money, because that just
31:18
shows you.
31:19
It's her own projection of that.
31:22
Getting money, getting money.
31:23
She and Wyden and a number of other
31:26
of these guys and that other guy screaming
31:28
about yes or no, they were visibly shaking.
31:35
Yes.
31:36
All of them.
31:37
They're so mad because they must have threats.
31:39
Threats.
31:40
Threats on the back side.
31:41
I think they have.
31:42
I believe that might be it.
31:44
They may have threats.
31:45
They were visibly shaking.
31:47
She was just shaking like a leaf.
31:49
Do you think that Shanahan is a threat?
31:51
What do you think about the farmer rep
31:52
who drops by and says, if you don't
31:54
make sure this Kennedy guy doesn't get in,
31:56
if you don't discredit him, I'm going to
31:57
primary you.
31:58
You don't think that conversation happened?
32:02
Yeah, not in public though.
32:04
No.
32:05
I'm sure he has.
32:07
Yeah, of course.
32:09
Well, this is good.
32:10
Let's shake him out.
32:11
Let's smoke him out.
32:12
I don't know.
32:13
It's not good, actually.
32:16
An N can be put to this in
32:19
one quick executive order.
32:22
And what would that order be?
32:24
Television drug advertising.
32:26
It takes the money out of the, it
32:28
takes all these ridiculous profits out of these
32:30
stupid drugs that have all these side effects.
32:32
And it takes the money away from the
32:34
media who's been banking on this drug money
32:38
since day one, since it began and they've
32:41
like kind of leaned on it.
32:42
And that will hurt the media big time.
32:46
I don't think the president has the balls
32:50
to do it because he knows that then
32:53
his entire base will get primaried.
32:57
It will be an all-out war if
33:00
he does that.
33:00
Well, there's going to be an all-out
33:01
war anyway, if Kennedy doesn't get in.
33:04
Now here's where she starts to get mean
33:07
and she starts to go after him because
33:09
he's a lawyer that's been suing pharma companies.
33:12
This is great.
33:12
This is a good clip.
33:14
You could change vaccine labeling.
33:15
You could change vaccine information rules.
33:18
You can change which claims are compensated in
33:22
the vaccine injury compensation program.
33:25
There's a lot of ways that you can
33:27
influence those future lawsuits and pending lawsuits while
33:32
you are secretary of HHS.
33:35
And I'm asking you to commit right now
33:37
that you will not take a financial stake
33:41
in every one of those lawsuits so that
33:44
what you do as secretary will also benefit
33:47
you financially down the line.
33:49
I'll comply with all the ethical guidelines.
33:52
That's not the question.
33:54
You and I, you have said- Senator,
33:57
you're asking me not to pursue vaccine-
33:59
No, I am not.
34:01
Yeah, you are.
34:03
That's exactly what you're doing.
34:05
Look, no one should be fooled here.
34:08
As secretary of HHS, Robert Kennedy will have
34:12
the power to undercut vaccines and vaccine manufacturing
34:17
across our country.
34:19
And for all of his talk about follow
34:21
the science and his promise that he won't
34:24
interfere with those of us who want to
34:26
vaccinate his kids, the bottom line is the
34:29
same.
34:30
Kennedy can kill off access to vaccines and
34:33
make millions of dollars while he does it.
34:37
Kids might die, but Robert Kennedy can keep
34:40
cashing in.
34:41
Oh, man.
34:44
She's just not a good person.
34:47
She's been visibly, and she's visibly shaking.
34:49
I think, you know, your comment that the
34:51
drug company guy, the rep coming by saying
34:54
we're going to primary you if you don't
34:55
get this guy killed, I think is dead
34:58
on.
34:59
Because there's no reason to be this nervous.
35:02
She was shaking when she was condemning him.
35:05
Pretty bad.
35:06
That was really pretty bad.
35:07
So it went back and forth because the
35:09
Republicans were all amenable, and they were happy
35:11
with it, and they think they can get
35:13
the votes, you know, except for the couple
35:16
of them.
35:18
And so Ron Johnson, who is just a
35:22
gentle guy who is really interesting.
35:25
Well, he's held a lot of these side
35:28
room conferences about food.
35:30
Oh, yeah.
35:30
He's the one who does the, right, right.
35:31
He's the one who does those extra ones
35:33
that are in a bunker someplace that puts
35:36
together what looks like a congressional investigation.
35:39
They throw some skirts over some Ikea tables,
35:42
and it's like, all right, you're in the
35:43
Capitol right now.
35:45
Uh-huh.
35:45
Yeah, that guy.
35:46
Yeah.
35:46
So he let Kennedy talk, and these are
35:49
the last two clips, and this is not
35:51
really about the back and forth.
35:52
This is Kennedy giving his side of the
35:55
story.
35:56
And I think if you listen to this,
35:59
it's pretty hard to not want this guy
36:02
in.
36:02
This is Kennedy to Johnson one.
36:04
When I launched my campaign, it was about
36:06
uniting Americans, Democrats and Republicans.
36:09
There's no issue that should unite us more
36:12
than this chronic health epidemic.
36:14
There's no such thing as Republican children or
36:17
Democratic children.
36:18
These are our kids.
36:20
Sixty-six percent of them are damaged.
36:23
I know what a healthy kid looks like
36:25
because I had so many of them in
36:27
my family.
36:28
I didn't know anybody with a food allergy
36:30
growing up, peanut allergy.
36:32
Why do five of my kids have allergies?
36:36
Why are we seeing these explosions in diabetes,
36:39
rheumatoid arthritis, neurological diseases, depression, all these things
36:45
that are related to toxics in the environment?
36:48
Why can't we just agree with each other
36:50
to put differences about so many issues, intractable
36:55
issues aside, and say, we're going to end
36:59
this?
36:59
I don't think anybody is going to be
37:02
able to do this like I have.
37:04
I'm all in with that.
37:06
And it is interesting how there's a decrease
37:09
in people are saying, you know, let's process
37:12
food.
37:13
I mean, the word is seeping out.
37:15
It goes very slow.
37:16
I think it takes years before it goes
37:19
slow.
37:19
Yeah, thanks to McDonald's.
37:21
This has gone faster than most because of,
37:25
you know, no one watches television anymore.
37:27
They're on social media.
37:30
If you look at one video about processed
37:33
food on TikTok, you'll get a thousand of
37:35
them.
37:35
It's interesting.
37:38
It is interesting.
37:39
I have to agree.
37:40
So the second part of this, he goes
37:42
on after another back and forth, and he
37:44
gives this spiel, which to me is the
37:48
kicker.
37:48
This is the reason you want the guy.
37:50
Because of my peculiar experience, because I've litigated
37:54
against these agencies.
37:56
When you litigate against them, you get a
37:57
PhD in corporate capture and how to unravel
38:00
it.
38:01
I've written six books about these agencies.
38:05
I know a lot about them, and I
38:06
know how to fix it.
38:08
And there's nobody who will fix it the
38:11
way that I do because I'm not scared
38:13
of vested interests.
38:14
I don't care.
38:15
I'm not here because I want a position
38:17
or a job.
38:18
I have a very good life and a
38:20
happy family.
38:21
This is something I don't need.
38:23
I want to do this because we're going
38:26
to fix it.
38:27
And the other thing is we are attracting
38:29
now a caliber of people to HHS like
38:33
never before in history.
38:35
And they're entrepreneurs, they're disruptors, they're innovators of
38:39
immense talents that are walking away, many of
38:42
them, from growing concerns.
38:43
They're not coming there for a position.
38:46
They're coming there because they want to save
38:48
our country.
38:49
Yeah.
38:50
Maha.
38:51
Make America healthy again.
38:52
Of course.
38:53
Of course.
38:55
So this vote will be very interesting.
38:57
There's one more hearing today with him, but
38:59
it's not the important hearing.
39:01
The hearing that took place at the Finance
39:02
Committee is, I was told, the hearing that
39:06
really determines whether he's going to go forward.
39:09
And he will because the Republicans are going
39:11
to vote for him.
39:12
And then it goes to the big…
39:13
Are you sure?
39:14
Are you really sure?
39:15
Yeah, I'm pretty sure, yeah, because there's nobody
39:17
on the Finance Committee that is a waffling
39:23
Republican.
39:24
I need to play a few clips here
39:26
before we move off of Kennedy.
39:28
And with this, I will say in 1997
39:30
or 1998, I got a call from Caroline
39:34
Kennedy, and she wanted to meet with me
39:38
because I was doing Internet stuff.
39:41
And so I meet with Caroline Kennedy, and
39:44
she said, well, you know, Tom Brokaw said
39:47
I should talk to you about the Internet.
39:49
And so I spoke about the Internet.
39:51
And she did an invitation to Brokaw when
39:53
she did this?
39:54
No, that was me.
39:55
Tom Brokaw, I want to talk about the
39:58
Internet.
39:58
Adam Curry.
40:01
And she was like, oh, I want to
40:03
get the Internet for the – I think
40:04
it was for the Kennedy Library or something.
40:07
She was in charge of that.
40:09
And it became very apparent to me.
40:12
She did not give a – not one
40:14
hoot about the Internet.
40:16
She just wanted a press release.
40:17
That's all she cared about.
40:19
She just wanted to have a press release
40:21
saying we're on the information superhighway.
40:24
We're on an onramp to the information superhighway.
40:27
And she just did not care, and then
40:29
she went away, and then nothing ever happened.
40:32
But what she did to Bobby Jr. here
40:37
is pretty – I mean, again, is she
40:41
just looking for a headline?
40:43
Is she looking for – I don't know
40:45
what she's looking for, but this was from
40:48
your family.
40:49
I mean, all of his family are crazy,
40:51
but she just really took it all with
40:54
this.
40:54
And I think she does this for herself.
40:56
She doesn't even do it to save or
40:58
protect anybody.
40:59
She only cares about herself.
41:00
Now that Bobby has been nominated by President
41:03
Trump to be secretary of health and human
41:05
services, a position that would put him in
41:08
charge of the health of the American people,
41:11
I feel an obligation to speak out.
41:14
I've known Bobby my whole life.
41:16
We grew up together.
41:17
It's no surprise that he keeps birds of
41:20
prey as pets because Bobby himself is a
41:23
predator.
41:25
He's always been charismatic, able to attract others
41:28
through the strength of his personality, his willingness
41:31
to take risks and break the rules.
41:34
I watched his younger brothers and cousins follow
41:37
him down the path of drug addiction.
41:40
His basement, his garage, his dorm room were
41:43
always the center of the action, where drugs
41:45
were available, and he enjoyed showing off how
41:48
he put baby chickens and mice in a
41:50
blender to feed to his hawks.
41:52
It was often a perverse scene of despair
41:55
and violence.
41:57
That was a long time ago, and people
41:59
can change.
42:00
Through his own strength and the many second
42:03
chances he was given by people who felt
42:06
sorry for the boy who lost his father,
42:08
Bobby was able to pull himself out of
42:10
illness and disease.
42:12
I admire the discipline that took and the
42:15
continuing commitment it requires.
42:17
However, but siblings and cousins who Bobby encouraged
42:21
down the path of substance abuse suffered addiction,
42:25
illness, and death.
42:27
While Bobby has gone on to misrepresent, lie,
42:31
and cheat his way through life.
42:33
Nice.
42:34
So nice, Caroline.
42:35
Thank you.
42:36
I want to play a couple of clips
42:37
for you.
42:38
She is a horrible person.
42:40
That's what I said.
42:41
Just from a few years being in the
42:43
Biden administration, she was the ambassador to Australia.
42:46
With no credentials for this, by the way,
42:48
that I could tell.
42:49
She doesn't really do anything.
42:50
She's a nude nick.
42:51
Wasn't she also ambassador to Japan for a
42:54
bit there, if I recall?
42:55
I think she might have been.
42:56
Yeah.
42:57
Again, with no credentials, doesn't speak the language,
43:00
etc.
43:01
No, she doesn't.
43:02
But she looks like she's 50 years older.
43:07
Yeah, she does not look 50.
43:09
From just four years ago.
43:10
She looks like Phil Collins.
43:11
That was bad.
43:13
Let's listen to the elite messaging system, which
43:16
is severely broken.
43:17
But here's NBC picking up the ball and
43:20
approaching the obvious attack vector against RFK Jr.
43:24
Tonight, on the eve of Robert F.
43:27
Kennedy Jr.'s Senate confirmation hearing to lead the
43:29
Department of Health and Human Services.
43:32
Bobby himself is a predator.
43:34
Caroline Kennedy is lashing out at her cousin,
43:37
calling him unqualified.
43:38
What?
43:39
Like a Nat Pop.
43:41
Caroline Kennedy is no, she's only good for
43:44
Nat Pops.
43:45
Bobby himself is a predator.
43:46
Caroline Kennedy is lashing out at her cousin,
43:50
calling him unqualified to oversee critical agencies, including
43:53
the FDA and CDC, pointing in part to
43:56
his stance on vaccines.
43:58
Bobby preys on the desperation of parents of
44:01
sick children, vaccinating his own kids, while building
44:05
a following hypocritically discouraging other parents from vaccinating
44:09
theirs.
44:10
Do you have any response to the letter
44:11
released by Caroline Kennedy?
44:14
RFK Jr. ignored NBC News's questions today.
44:17
Ignored it.
44:17
Oh, no, he ignored NBC.
44:20
His cousin's concern is echoed in- How
44:22
dare he ignore the NBC.
44:24
Franklin, Tennessee.
44:25
It's very scary that that person is going
44:27
to be making- Very scary.
44:29
Public health decisions for our family and the
44:32
country as a whole.
44:35
Jen Fisher's 12-year-old son, Raleigh, was
44:37
born with a congenital heart condition that makes
44:40
him more vulnerable to all types of sickness.
44:42
Her fear now made worse, Jen says, by
44:45
growing vaccines- Hold on a second.
44:48
This is the worst reporting I've ever seen
44:50
for a while.
44:51
It's not a report.
44:52
She is hysterical in the reporting, reportage.
44:58
Yes.
44:59
And she's going, she's ratting it off like
45:01
there's nothing going- She's just a maniac,
45:03
this reporter.
45:04
Aaron.
45:04
Aaron McLaughlin.
45:06
This is a terrible product.
45:09
NBC has lost the plot.
45:12
Well, that's why I call it the broken
45:13
elite messaging system.
45:15
All types of sickness.
45:16
Her fear now made worse, Jen says, by
45:19
growing vaccine skepticism within the Franklin community.
45:23
What does that mean for Raleigh?
45:24
It's a scarier thing to send him out
45:26
the door every morning.
45:28
It's cold and flu season.
45:29
There's a lot of illness going around.
45:31
It's a lot of illness going on.
45:33
It's very scary.
45:35
Well, there's a second part to this.
45:36
Here in Tennessee, according to the CDC, more
45:38
and more parents are choosing not to vaccinate
45:41
their children against preventable diseases such as measles
45:44
and whooping cough, a reality Dr. Daniel McGinley
45:47
says he is increasingly confronting in his practice.
45:51
Do you worry that people are going to
45:52
die because of this skepticism?
45:55
Some will.
45:56
You're confident that that is going to happen?
45:58
If these diseases come back, more people will
46:01
die.
46:02
No, no, no, no.
46:03
People will die.
46:04
Vaccine skepticism is growing across 40 states plus
46:05
Washington, D.C. Last school year, the percentage
46:08
of kindergartners exempted from one or more mandatory
46:11
vaccines was the highest ever recorded, fueled by
46:14
online conspiracies and high profile critics of vaccines
46:17
and vaccine mandates, like RFK Jr. There's no
46:22
vaccine that is safe and effective.
46:26
Wow.
46:27
Isn't that a good one?
46:29
Well, that's taken out of context.
46:32
That's what's so good about it.
46:33
This is terrible.
46:34
This is NBC at its worst.
46:36
This is awesome.
46:37
There's no vaccine that is, you know, safe
46:40
and effective.
46:43
Wait, you and pharma advertising, this stops instantly.
46:51
Yeah.
46:53
Yeah.
46:54
Because, yes, you're correct.
46:55
You are correct, sir.
46:57
There's no vaccine that is safe and effective.
47:01
Since his nomination, he said he's not anti
47:03
-vaccine and he won't take them away.
47:06
But parents like Fisher say they'll be watching
47:08
tomorrow's confirmation hearing closely, knowing that for Raleigh
47:12
and children like him, the stakes are high.
47:15
It's life or death for Raleigh.
47:17
The stakes are high.
47:19
We need to go to the other side
47:21
of the messaging system, to CBS.
47:23
We'll bring in Dr. John LaPook.
47:26
LaPook.
47:27
LaPook is here.
47:28
We are joined now by our chief medical
47:30
correspondent.
47:30
I'm sorry, chief medical correspondent, not just the
47:33
doctor.
47:33
He's a chief medical correspondent.
47:36
Makes you sound official.
47:37
He should be wearing a uniform with braids
47:40
and medals and all kinds of stuff.
47:42
We are joined now by our chief medical
47:44
correspondent, Dr. John LaPook.
47:46
John, start our conversation off by telling us
47:48
what RFK Jr. would oversee.
47:50
Massive department.
47:52
Yeah, you're right, John.
47:53
You know, HHS is huge.
47:54
We've put together something I want to show
47:56
you.
47:56
The annual budget is $1.8 trillion.
47:59
That is 26 cents out of every dollar
48:02
that the government spends every year.
48:04
And it oversees 13 federal agencies, including the
48:08
CDC, the FDA, Medicaid, Medicare, and the NIH,
48:11
which oversees a tremendous amount of medical research.
48:14
So this organization really affects almost all of
48:17
us.
48:17
Wasn't Collins the guy who was running it
48:19
before this?
48:21
That kook with his guitar?
48:24
HHS?
48:25
No, no, no, no, no.
48:27
The whole NIH.
48:28
Yeah, HHS.
48:29
I'm sorry.
48:30
No, HHS was Becerra, I think.
48:33
Oh, well, that guy's even worse.
48:35
No, Becerra's got no creds.
48:38
I mean, he's just a California lawyer.
48:41
We continue.
48:42
What would be his powers as he oversees
48:44
all these agencies?
48:45
He would be very powerful.
48:47
You know, tremendous.
48:48
I'll give you an example.
48:49
The CDC has an advisory committee that recommends
48:52
to the CDC what vaccines to give and
48:55
when to give them.
48:56
Well, the HHA secretary appoints the voting members
48:59
of that advisory committee.
49:01
Laugh Tale.
49:03
Laugh Tale.
49:03
Oh, yeah, that committee, which we know is
49:06
all shills.
49:07
Of that advisory committee.
49:09
Even without official changes, the views of somebody
49:11
at the top of such a powerful organization
49:13
can affect public opinion.
49:15
So if there's doubts, for example, about vaccines,
49:18
that can trickle down and perhaps increase vaccine
49:21
hesitancy.
49:22
Oh, hesitancy.
49:22
Oh, no.
49:23
All I've ever heard Kennedy say is, yeah,
49:26
I just want people to know and I
49:27
don't want to force them.
49:28
I don't want to force their kids to
49:30
take this stuff, which, of course, is very
49:31
bad.
49:34
Dr. LePoucq, you're not just a doctor and
49:36
chief medical officer, but what do your colleagues
49:38
think of this?
49:39
What do your colleagues, what do other doctors
49:41
make of RFK Jr. and if he got
49:43
this job?
49:44
You know, there's agreement and even excitement about
49:46
the idea of making America healthier, decreasing obesity
49:49
and improving our diets.
49:50
Well, here we go.
49:51
Where the concern comes in is there's belief
49:53
and there's evidence.
49:55
And when belief doesn't square with evidence, you
49:57
either change the belief, that's science.
49:59
No evidence.
49:59
Or you change or you cherry pick the
50:01
evidence.
50:02
And there's concern among my colleagues about holding
50:04
on to belief in the face of contradictory
50:07
evidence.
50:08
How concerning is it that people believe these
50:10
things nowadays?
50:11
Loaded question.
50:12
It was once when this was believed to
50:13
be settled fact, right?
50:16
Science fact.
50:17
In the 1950s, the high watermark, you know,
50:19
when polio vaccine.
50:21
Of course, in government vaccines were given for
50:24
polio.
50:25
Like two million people got it at a
50:27
time when people were so terrified about what
50:29
these infections can do.
50:31
But now people don't even remember what the
50:33
measles, mumps, rubella.
50:35
Most people haven't seen it.
50:36
Diphtheria, whooping cough.
50:38
That's one of the problems.
50:39
When public health is working, nothing happens.
50:41
And so people don't appreciate it.
50:43
Yeah.
50:43
Well, don't get us started on the measles,
50:46
Brady Bunch.
50:47
I do want to go to Tina Smith.
50:50
Yeah.
50:51
Tina Smith, the Democrat from Minnesota.
50:54
Who's this?
50:55
Tina Smith, the Democrat from Minnesota.
50:58
And she, her task was to, her attack
51:03
vector was SSRIs and other stuff that science
51:07
can't actually explain how it works.
51:09
But we know it works.
51:10
You just might have to take Relenza or
51:12
Cibolta or some extra thing that increases it.
51:16
And you're on it forever and you feel
51:19
great.
51:20
In an interview in 2023 and again in
51:23
2024, you blamed school shootings on antidepressants.
51:27
You said, and this is a quote, there
51:29
is no time in American history or human
51:32
history that kids were going to shoot schools
51:34
and shooting their classmates.
51:36
It really started happening coterminous with the introduction
51:39
of these drugs, with Prozac and with other
51:42
drugs.
51:43
So do you believe, as you've said, that
51:44
antidepressants cause school shootings?
51:47
This should be a simple question.
51:48
I don't think anybody can answer that question
51:50
and I didn't answer that question.
51:52
I said it should be studied along with
51:56
other potential culprits like social media.
52:01
What?
52:02
Gaming.
52:03
You forgot gaming.
52:04
But I don't know.
52:05
I would never make because there's no science
52:08
on that.
52:08
Well, there is, Senator.
52:10
I mean, excuse me.
52:10
There is, Mr. Kennedy.
52:12
Thank you for the promotion.
52:13
The science shows that there is no link.
52:16
You gave me a joke.
52:17
What?
52:18
You get the line in there.
52:19
Thanks for the promotion.
52:21
This is so good.
52:23
Mr. Kennedy.
52:24
Thank you for the promotion.
52:25
The science shows that there is no link
52:28
between school shootings and antidepressants.
52:30
And in fact, most school shooters were not
52:32
even treated with antidepressants.
52:34
And of those that were, there was no
52:36
evidence of association.
52:37
I don't think you need to say that,
52:40
Senator, because HIPAA rules nobody knows.
52:42
Well, that is Mr. Kennedy.
52:44
Do you think that people who take antidepressants
52:48
are dangerous?
52:48
Yeah, yeah.
52:49
I just went on from there.
52:52
Is my neighbor on antidepressants going to kill
52:54
me?
52:55
Oh, yeah.
52:56
These people are just the worst.
52:58
I thought the funniest was Bernie Sanders.
53:01
Bernie was like...
53:02
This was...
53:02
I'm glad you got these clips, because I
53:04
had to stop at some point.
53:06
Oh, yeah.
53:06
You had to.
53:06
It was too much.
53:07
It was too much.
53:08
But Bernie, this Bernie...
53:10
And this is actually a shock to me,
53:11
because I thought Bernie would be on the
53:13
side of Kennedy.
53:14
Yeah.
53:15
And somebody, like you said, the only thing
53:17
you can assume is somebody bumped up to
53:19
him and said, hey, you know, Bernie.
53:21
Hey, I got to got you, man.
53:22
It's going to look great.
53:23
Your profile is going to be fantastic.
53:25
Yeah, see this?
53:26
Look at this photo.
53:26
Hey, look at this.
53:27
What's that in your mouth, Bernie?
53:28
I think the gist of what you were
53:29
trying to say today is you're really pro
53:33
-vaccine.
53:34
You want to ask questions.
53:36
You have started a group called the Children's
53:39
Health Defense.
53:41
You're the originator.
53:42
Right now, as I understand it, on their
53:44
website, they are selling what's called onesies.
53:47
These are little things, clothing for babies.
53:51
One of them is titled Unfaxed Unafraid.
53:55
Next one, and they're sold for $26 apiece,
53:58
by the way.
53:58
Next one is No Vax, No Problem.
54:03
Now, you're coming before this committee, and you
54:05
say you're pro-vaccine.
54:07
Just want to ask some questions.
54:08
And yet your organization is making money selling
54:12
a child's product to parents for $26, which
54:17
casts fundamental doubt on the usefulness of vaccines.
54:21
Can you tell us now that you will,
54:24
now that you are pro-vaccine, that you're
54:28
going to have your organization take these products
54:31
off the market?
54:32
Senator, I have no power over that organization.
54:34
I'm not a part of it.
54:35
I resigned from the board.
54:36
That was just a few months ago.
54:38
You founded that.
54:39
You certainly have power.
54:41
You can make that power up.
54:42
Are you supportive of this?
54:44
I've had nothing to do with leadership.
54:45
Are you supportive of these onesies?
54:47
I'm supportive of vaccines.
54:48
Can you imagine that someone wrote down in
54:51
his script, you have to say, are you
54:54
supportive of these onesies?
54:55
These onesies.
54:56
These onesies are an outrage.
54:59
That's actually a subclip.
55:00
Are you supportive of these onesies?
55:03
Now, the other thing is his preoccupation with
55:05
this $26.
55:07
Does he think that's a jip or what?
55:09
I mean, what is he so preoccupied?
55:10
Who cares about the price?
55:13
Oh, but the portions are so small.
55:19
Oh, man, I'm sorry he has to go
55:21
through all that.
55:21
I'm sorry for all these people.
55:22
These people are sad and pathetic.
55:25
They really are.
55:26
The onesies.
55:27
The onesies.
55:28
What's my script, Buff?
55:31
You're going to take the onesies, Bernie.
55:33
I want to take the SSRIs.
55:35
Are you supportive of these onesies?
55:36
I want to take the SSRIs.
55:38
I got the onesies.
55:39
What did you get?
55:41
I got MMR. It's not all that great,
55:44
is it?
55:46
Can we move away from this?
55:48
Do you have any more?
55:49
Yeah, I do have the summary clip from
55:53
NTD, which is kind of, I guess, worth
55:55
playing.
55:56
This is the Kennedy rundown.
55:58
Yeah, it's worth it.
55:58
Robert F.
55:59
Kennedy Jr. spent hours in front of the
56:01
Senate Finance Committee Wednesday making statements and answering
56:05
questions on day one of his nomination hearings.
56:09
There is no single culprit in chronic disease.
56:12
Much as I have criticized certain industries and
56:15
agencies, President Trump and I understand that most
56:19
of their scientists and experts genuinely care about
56:22
American health.
56:23
Therefore, we will bring together all stakeholders in
56:27
pursuit of this unifying goal.
56:30
Kennedy is scheduled for two days of hearings,
56:32
which will be followed by a full Senate
56:34
vote on whether or not to confirm him
56:37
as the Secretary of Health and Human Services.
56:40
Many senators probed Kennedy about his stance on
56:44
vaccines.
56:45
Senator Ron Wayden alleged that Kennedy has embraced
56:48
conspiracy theories, especially on the safety and efficacy
56:52
of vaccines.
56:54
He has made it his life's work to
56:57
sow doubt and discourage parents from getting their
57:00
kids life-saving vaccines.
57:03
But Kennedy pushed back, saying that he's not
57:06
anti-vaccine or anti-industry, but he is
57:09
pro-safety.
57:10
I worked for years to raise awareness about
57:13
the mercury and toxic chemicals in fish, and
57:17
nobody called me any fish.
57:20
You know what a guy like Kennedy really
57:23
needs?
57:23
And not just because I can do it,
57:25
but someone like me who can sit there
57:27
with the vast array of no-agenda clips
57:30
in our archive and just go, oh yeah,
57:32
here's what he really said, boom, hit the
57:33
clip.
57:34
You know, that's what he needs, because it's
57:36
all, they're just lying, all of them.
57:39
They lie.
57:41
And they twist it, and they make different
57:44
terms out of it.
57:44
Well, that's because they have an agenda.
57:46
Yeah, but that's why the no agenda has
57:48
to be there.
57:48
Speaking of which, we have our debutante who
57:52
came out this week.
57:56
Her name is Press Secretary Leavitt.
58:01
Leave it to Beaver?
58:02
Leave it to Beaver.
58:03
Leave it.
58:04
Caroline?
58:05
Is it Caroline?
58:06
Caroline, I think.
58:07
Caroline Leavitt, who is 27.
58:10
Yes, the youngest press secretary in history.
58:12
I can't imagine any of our daughters doing
58:15
this job.
58:16
And she's, I mean, she's getting her sea
58:21
legs.
58:22
But this was something that everybody had to
58:25
send me an email about.
58:26
This White House believes strongly in the First
58:28
Amendment, so it's why our team will work
58:30
diligently to restore the press passes of the
58:33
440 journalists whose passes were wrongly revoked by
58:37
the previous administration.
58:39
We're also opening up this briefing room to
58:41
new media voices who produce news-related content
58:44
and whose outlet is not already represented by
58:47
one of the seats in this room.
58:49
We welcome independent journalists, podcasters, social media influencers,
58:54
and content creators to apply for credentials to
58:57
cover this White House.
58:59
Again, podcasting has come a long way.
59:02
I don't know if you got any.
59:04
No, probably you get nothing.
59:05
I got a couple.
59:06
You know, like, are you going to apply
59:08
for credentials?
59:10
No.
59:12
Why in the world?
59:13
We cover media.
59:15
We deconstruct media.
59:16
We don't want to be the media.
59:19
That's true.
59:20
And the second thing that should be noted,
59:21
by the way, 7,200 podcasters have applied.
59:27
How do you know?
59:28
I didn't hear about that.
59:29
It was a news report that came out.
59:31
Somebody, I think, came out of the White
59:33
House.
59:33
That's a lot.
59:33
That's more than I expected.
59:35
And they said the thing was that it
59:38
has to be a daily publication, which eliminates
59:43
us immediately.
59:44
Oh, we're out.
59:44
We're done.
59:46
The thing is, if you go to the
59:48
website, whitehouse.gov slash new media, you get
59:52
a landing page, which is iopra.my.site
59:55
.com, which is in a frame of the
1:00:00
White House, and says, interested in joining a
1:00:02
future White House press briefing?
1:00:04
Share your information below.
1:00:05
And then there's a button that says Siguiente,
1:00:08
which I think is Spanish for enter?
1:00:11
What does Siguiente mean?
1:00:14
I don't know.
1:00:16
Let's look it up.
1:00:17
It probably does mean enter.
1:00:19
Siguiente.
1:00:20
Or go home.
1:00:22
Go away.
1:00:25
Let me see.
1:00:26
This means next.
1:00:32
Oh, next.
1:00:33
It means next, I guess.
1:00:34
Oh, next.
1:00:36
Sequente.
1:00:37
That would be sequence.
1:00:39
From the root sequence.
1:00:42
So I hit next.
1:00:44
And then it has first name.
1:00:45
What is your first name?
1:00:47
Introduza hasta 200 caracteres.
1:00:51
So this thing is in Spanish.
1:00:54
It's the craziest thing.
1:00:57
Maybe you just have the Spanish.
1:00:58
You're in the Spanish track.
1:01:01
No, it's all.
1:01:02
I've tried the VPN.
1:01:03
It's all.
1:01:05
Are you on a VPN?
1:01:07
I've tried it on.
1:01:08
I'm not on a VPN now, but I've
1:01:10
tried it on VPN for different countries.
1:01:11
I keep getting.
1:01:12
It's the same.
1:01:13
I get the same form.
1:01:15
Interesting.
1:01:15
Well, no, it's unprofessional is what it is.
1:01:20
Well.
1:01:20
It's lame.
1:01:21
Like how come the podcasters have to all
1:01:23
speak Spanish?
1:01:23
And what are you doing?
1:01:25
Anyway.
1:01:26
So no, we are not going to apply
1:01:29
for press credentials.
1:01:31
And I guess we don't even qualify.
1:01:35
But we're not going to do that.
1:01:36
We are the media.
1:01:38
Podcasts are now the media.
1:01:39
We will have to deconstruct podcasts, which is
1:01:42
okay.
1:01:43
We're starting to do that.
1:01:45
And this is I'll just give my mini
1:01:47
spiel here.
1:01:48
This is why we need people starting hyper
1:01:50
local podcasts.
1:01:52
Because there's no way that any human being
1:01:55
can go through Rogan and Megan Kelly and
1:01:59
Victor Davis Hanson and Tucker Carlson and call
1:02:02
her daddy.
1:02:03
And you need people in your community who
1:02:06
are doing that distilling it down so that
1:02:08
when you're walking down the street, you can
1:02:10
say, hey, I heard you were talking about
1:02:13
that.
1:02:13
What's going on?
1:02:14
Hyper local podcast dot com.
1:02:17
It'll get you started.
1:02:18
It'll get you started.
1:02:19
The people are very interested in doing this.
1:02:21
They really.
1:02:22
And also, what is it?
1:02:23
What does it mean to your community?
1:02:25
Pot Angeles.
1:02:27
Yes, exactly.
1:02:28
Mimi's got the right idea.
1:02:30
Now.
1:02:30
She does.
1:02:31
We are anachronism.
1:02:33
So I'm trying to use my new word.
1:02:36
Yeah, you got it.
1:02:37
You nailed it.
1:02:38
So that is why, you know, people still
1:02:41
tune in to us because we now are
1:02:43
hyper local.
1:02:44
We're hyper local community of interest.
1:02:47
And we've been around long enough in our
1:02:49
18th year.
1:02:50
But essentially, we're doing the same thing.
1:02:54
You know, come to us.
1:02:55
We'll distill it down.
1:02:56
We'll give you some ideas.
1:02:57
We'll play some clips.
1:02:58
Except we can't talk about your specific neighborhood.
1:03:02
And we certainly never talk about Canada.
1:03:05
Now, along these lines, I would like to
1:03:08
promote Dvorak dot substack dot com.
1:03:14
Where, you know, you don't promote that enough.
1:03:17
I heard you promote it on DH Unplugged.
1:03:19
Yeah.
1:03:20
You should promote that more often.
1:03:22
I should.
1:03:23
You know, I'm not good at promotion.
1:03:25
It's pretty apparent.
1:03:26
D-V-O-R-A-K.
1:03:30
Dvorak.
1:03:31
Dvorak.
1:03:31
We need somebody to do a jingle with
1:03:34
spelling my name.
1:03:35
Oh, yeah.
1:03:35
We'll do that right after Dvorak dot org
1:03:38
slash N-A.
1:03:40
Which I'm sure you've already made the forward
1:03:42
to knowagentthedonations.com.
1:03:44
Which Tina asked me about every other day.
1:03:47
No, she doesn't.
1:03:48
Yes, she does.
1:03:49
No, you're acting like NBC.
1:03:51
No, she comes every other.
1:03:53
She says, oh, how's that microphone company coming?
1:03:55
About as good as the vinegar book.
1:03:58
About as good as the vinegar book.
1:03:59
And then she'll say, oh, how about the
1:04:01
donation page?
1:04:02
Yeah, that's okay.
1:04:03
Hey, it's all right.
1:04:04
I love you regardless.
1:04:06
It's okay.
1:04:07
I don't need another company.
1:04:08
Get to work, Dvorak.
1:04:11
Somebody should love me.
1:04:12
Get to work.
1:04:14
Newsletter didn't pay off.
1:04:15
Lousy donations, thanks to you.
1:04:17
Oh, excuse me.
1:04:19
You're like, donations are great.
1:04:20
It was the newsletter.
1:04:21
Yeah, okay, fine.
1:04:22
You want to take that side of the
1:04:24
coin.
1:04:24
It doesn't matter because I think there's a
1:04:27
big future for you.
1:04:28
By the way, Spam Assassin is out to
1:04:34
get us.
1:04:34
Spam Assassin is the reason a lot of
1:04:36
people don't get the newsletter.
1:04:37
If you have anything to do with Spam
1:04:39
Assassin, that's a lousy operation because they have
1:04:42
blocked us and make our newsletter.
1:04:44
People subscribe to this newsletter.
1:04:46
It's not spam.
1:04:48
I think there's a way to unblock ourselves
1:04:52
from Spam Assassin.
1:04:54
You can go into Spam Assassin and say,
1:04:57
no, this is good.
1:04:58
What happens is the way these things get
1:05:00
on the block list is some jabroni hits
1:05:04
block.
1:05:07
The whole email is broken, just like everything.
1:05:10
The only thing that still works is podcasts,
1:05:11
and this is where I was leading up
1:05:13
to, since you have a sub stack, you
1:05:17
should do a sub stack live.
1:05:19
Sub stack live.
1:05:20
Look, even Jim Acosta is doing it.
1:05:24
Hey, guys.
1:05:25
Hey, guys.
1:05:25
He's going to make a lot of money,
1:05:27
that guy.
1:05:27
Hey, guys.
1:05:28
Hey, guys.
1:05:29
You know what?
1:05:29
Before you play this, which I'm glad you
1:05:31
got, and by the way, it is sub
1:05:33
stack, Dvorak.substack.com.
1:05:36
You can read.
1:05:37
Adam was trying to promote there was the
1:05:39
freak show column I just wrote describing the
1:05:46
freak show that we're literally getting from the
1:05:48
Democrats.
1:05:49
Yes.
1:05:50
You know, people with the blue hair and
1:05:51
the nose rings and the gauged ears and
1:05:54
the whole thing.
1:05:54
They're all Democrats.
1:05:56
It was a groovy old man post.
1:06:00
It was something.
1:06:02
A lot of people like this structure.
1:06:04
No, it's a classic Dvorak structure.
1:06:07
Classic.
1:06:08
That's why I bring it up.
1:06:10
Well, I'm glad you did, by the way.
1:06:11
And I think you should get your phone,
1:06:14
and it has a camera.
1:06:15
I know it has a camera, and you
1:06:16
should do a sub stack.
1:06:17
No.
1:06:18
I think you got the wrong idea.
1:06:20
Sub stack live.
1:06:21
Here he is.
1:06:21
Hi, guys.
1:06:22
It's Dvorak here.
1:06:23
No.
1:06:23
No.
1:06:23
I've got, as you noted in the tip
1:06:27
of the day, I have the three-way,
1:06:29
the three-channel car cam.
1:06:32
Do it from your car.
1:06:33
Do it from your car.
1:06:34
And I have that.
1:06:34
I can point the camera at me in
1:06:36
the driver's seat, and I can do my
1:06:37
podcast from the car like a pro.
1:06:40
Let me tell you.
1:06:40
I would pay good money to see you
1:06:43
do a sub stack live from the Lexus.
1:06:45
You have no idea.
1:06:46
Let me be your manager for a moment.
1:06:50
Instant classic.
1:06:51
No, instant bestseller.
1:06:54
We'll put a gold star on it.
1:06:56
Instant bestseller if you do sub stack live.
1:06:58
And here is your example.
1:07:01
This is your leader, Jim Acosta.
1:07:02
Hey, guys.
1:07:03
It's Jim.
1:07:05
And let me just say this.
1:07:06
I've had quite the day.
1:07:07
But as you could see earlier today, this
1:07:09
was my last day at CNN.
1:07:12
And I did want to jump on sub
1:07:14
stack live here for a moment and say,
1:07:16
welcome to my new venture.
1:07:18
I'm going independent, at least for now.
1:07:20
This is just the beginning.
1:07:22
But I wanted to invite you to join
1:07:24
me here on this platform as we talk
1:07:26
about the day's news, talk about politics, and
1:07:28
so on.
1:07:29
I do want to, just in case, just
1:07:31
in case you missed my closing message earlier
1:07:33
in the day, don't give in to the
1:07:36
lies.
1:07:38
Don't give in to fear.
1:07:40
Hold on to the truth.
1:07:42
And hope.
1:07:43
And keep this conversation going.
1:07:45
Great to see all of you here.
1:07:47
We'll talk some more soon.
1:07:48
And I think you should sign off like
1:07:49
that.
1:07:49
Don't give in to the fear.
1:07:52
Keep your hope alive.
1:07:53
And I'll see you soon.
1:07:54
We'll keep the conversation going.
1:07:56
That is how you do it.
1:07:58
That is your example for Dvorak alive from
1:08:02
the Lexus, ladies and gentlemen.
1:08:04
I'm telling you, it's an instant topper, chart
1:08:07
topper, winner.
1:08:08
iTunes is ready to put you on top.
1:08:11
I'm all in, but I think it's going
1:08:13
to come off as the tech grouch.
1:08:15
Well, then wear the beard.
1:08:17
It's fine.
1:08:17
Do the tech grouch.
1:08:18
I've got the beard.
1:08:18
I still have the costume.
1:08:20
Yeah.
1:08:20
And then just do straight up news.
1:08:23
Grouch.
1:08:25
Straight up.
1:08:26
Tech grouch.
1:08:27
Yeah.
1:08:29
Speaking of mainstream, of course, we have a
1:08:32
new FCC chair.
1:08:33
And wouldn't you know it.
1:08:34
The FCC has reinstated complaints against CBS, ABC,
1:08:38
and NBC regarding last fall's presidential election.
1:08:42
New Republican Chairman Brendan Carr brought back these
1:08:44
cases after they were dismissed in the final
1:08:47
days of the Biden administration.
1:08:49
Notably, a complaint against Fox News will not
1:08:52
be reinstated.
1:08:53
The CBS complaint accuses the network 60 Minutes
1:08:56
of editing an interview with Kamala Harris, claiming
1:08:58
it distorted news to benefit her campaign.
1:09:01
ABC faces a complaint for alleged bias during
1:09:03
Harris's debate with Donald Trump, where moderators were
1:09:06
accused of favored treatment.
1:09:07
NBC is under fire for a Saturday Night
1:09:10
Live episode that featured Harris without a similar
1:09:13
opportunity for Trump.
1:09:14
Former FCC chairwoman Jessica Rosenworcel dismissed all four
1:09:18
complaints just before leaving office.
1:09:20
Carr, who has been vocal in support of
1:09:22
Trump, promises to address these issues as FCC
1:09:25
chair.
1:09:26
The reinstatements may signal a shift in oversight
1:09:28
of broadcast media.
1:09:30
Yeah, baby.
1:09:31
This is good.
1:09:32
This is good.
1:09:33
This is going after him.
1:09:34
I like it.
1:09:34
We have an associated clip.
1:09:36
All right.
1:09:36
Which is the.
1:09:38
Where is it?
1:09:40
I don't know.
1:09:41
It's the May.
1:09:41
It's a meta meta lawsuit paid.
1:09:44
Oh, yes.
1:09:45
Yes.
1:09:46
Is this the mega clips?
1:09:49
No, no.
1:09:50
Meta.
1:09:51
Meta.
1:09:51
I was going to.
1:09:52
Well, you never know.
1:09:53
You know, the mega clips are coming.
1:09:55
You never know.
1:09:56
Facebook parent meta is agreeing to pay 25
1:09:58
million dollars to settle a lawsuit filed by
1:10:01
President Trump against the company after it suspended
1:10:04
his accounts following the January six attack on
1:10:06
the Capitol.
1:10:07
Just the latest settling of litigation with the
1:10:09
president who threatened retribution on his critics and
1:10:11
rivals.
1:10:12
Meted and CEO Mark Zuckerberg among the billionaires
1:10:15
who sought to ingratiate themselves with Trump since
1:10:17
he won reelection.
1:10:19
Oh, I have.
1:10:19
I think I have a little better clip
1:10:21
because it has.
1:10:22
I hope so.
1:10:23
Yeah.
1:10:23
Because let me see if I hear.
1:10:26
Here we go.
1:10:28
This is.
1:10:29
Where's this from?
1:10:30
This is from NBC.
1:10:32
Of course, NBC is going to be great.
1:10:33
Let's give you some breaking news into the
1:10:35
White House.
1:10:36
Valley.
1:10:37
President Trump, we've learned, has signed an agreement
1:10:39
with Meta to settle a lawsuit that he
1:10:42
filed against the company for suspending his account
1:10:45
after the attack on the Capitol on January
1:10:47
6th, four years ago.
1:10:48
The settlement, we understand, to be 25 million
1:10:51
dollars, most of which is going towards his
1:10:54
future presidential library.
1:10:56
This story first was reported by The Wall
1:10:58
Street Journal.
1:10:59
Meta says it has no comment on that,
1:11:00
but says they can confirm that they have
1:11:01
a 22 million dollar number to the Trump
1:11:04
library.
1:11:04
Garrett Haake is at the White House.
1:11:05
Garrett, this is so interesting for a lot
1:11:08
of reasons here.
1:11:09
And I know you've just confirmed this with
1:11:11
some of your sources here.
1:11:12
Your sources are great, Garrett.
1:11:14
There is a fascinating detail in the initial
1:11:16
Wall Street Journal article that I should note
1:11:18
NBC News has not confirmed.
1:11:19
It's not confirmed, but it's fascinating and it's
1:11:22
a detail.
1:11:22
So let's go to the White House.
1:11:24
He's standing in front of the White House.
1:11:25
It's so official.
1:11:26
For the end of the November dinner.
1:11:27
So this is a dinner that we've reported
1:11:29
on, or at least a visit to Mar
1:11:31
-a-Lago by Mark Zuckerberg, went down after
1:11:33
Donald Trump won the election.
1:11:34
Why are they talking?
1:11:35
Hold on a second.
1:11:37
Why are these women reporters for NBC, this
1:11:40
is the second one, this is a different
1:11:41
woman, talk so fast?
1:11:44
Oh, the new shipment of snow came in,
1:11:47
if you know what I'm saying.
1:11:49
I'm just saying.
1:11:51
Soon to be President Trump raised the matter
1:11:53
of the lawsuit, the people said.
1:11:54
The president signaled that the litigation had to
1:11:57
be resolved before Zuckerberg could be, quote-unquote,
1:11:59
brought into the tent, according to one of
1:12:01
these sources speaking with the Wall Street Journal,
1:12:03
Garrett.
1:12:04
He can be brought into the tent.
1:12:06
There's no evidence this was said.
1:12:09
There's no evidence.
1:12:10
But they go on and on about, oh,
1:12:12
Trump said, well, you can't be brought into
1:12:15
the tent.
1:12:16
Into the tent, my brother.
1:12:19
I mean, does that even sound like Trump?
1:12:21
No, not at all.
1:12:22
Can't bring you into the tent, Zuck.
1:12:25
Meanwhile, wow, another opportunity.
1:12:29
Another one for you.
1:12:31
I'm excited about this.
1:12:32
You really need to get the Lexus mobile
1:12:34
cranked up, the 2006 Lexus, with your three.
1:12:39
2005.
1:12:40
Whoa.
1:12:41
I'm sorry, don't want to insult you.
1:12:44
With your three-way camera or whatever it
1:12:47
is, your tech grouch beard because there's instant
1:12:49
guaranteed cash.
1:12:51
Meta is making a bold play to attract
1:12:53
TikTok creators by offering up to $5,000
1:12:56
to influencers who join Facebook and Instagram.
1:13:00
With TikTok's future in the U.S. uncertain,
1:13:02
this breakthrough bonus program is a tempting opportunity
1:13:05
for creators.
1:13:07
To qualify, you need to post at least
1:13:09
20 reels on Facebook and 10 on Instagram
1:13:11
every month.
1:13:13
All original content.
1:13:14
But here's the catch.
1:13:16
It's only for those who've never posted on
1:13:18
either platform before.
1:13:19
Plus, accepted creators get perks like a free
1:13:23
verification subscription.
1:13:25
Meta isn't stopping there.
1:13:26
They've launched edits, a CapCut-like app, and
1:13:29
revamped Instagram's layout to mimic TikTok.
1:13:32
While some users are frustrated with these changes,
1:13:35
it's clear Meta is serious about dominating the
1:13:38
short-form video space.
1:13:40
I mean, this is great.
1:13:43
To five grand.
1:13:45
Top that with a newsletter.
1:13:47
This is good stuff.
1:13:47
This is cash money money in the bank.
1:13:50
Okay, I want to just stick with this
1:13:53
in this area for a second because this
1:13:55
is probably the best truth wants to come
1:13:58
out clip I've heard this year.
1:14:00
I know we're only a couple weeks into
1:14:02
it, but it's the best, best this year.
1:14:06
So Vivek Ramaswamy.
1:14:09
Vivek.
1:14:10
Vivek Ramaswamy.
1:14:11
Vivek is an ache.
1:14:11
All of a sudden he drops out of
1:14:13
the Department of Governmental Efficiency.
1:14:16
You know, it's very shady.
1:14:19
I mean, he walked in.
1:14:20
He walked in as part of the cabinet
1:14:22
during the inauguration, and then he's kind of
1:14:25
out.
1:14:26
He's like, oh, no, no.
1:14:27
He can't really talk about it, but he's
1:14:29
probably going to run for the Ohio Senate
1:14:31
seat and everything.
1:14:32
But the truth came out in his discussion
1:14:36
with Jesse Watters, and you'll love it.
1:14:40
So we're hearing you're leaving Doge after like
1:14:44
three scaramoochies.
1:14:46
What happened?
1:14:47
Well, the reality is I'm pursuing elected office
1:14:49
very shortly.
1:14:49
We'll have an announcement soon.
1:14:50
But, Jesse, things are off to a great
1:14:52
start.
1:14:52
I think President Trump has proven.
1:14:54
Look at the actions that he took in
1:14:55
that first week.
1:14:56
The most pro-merit president I think we've
1:14:58
had in a long time.
1:14:59
And as for my vision grounded in constitutional
1:15:01
law and the future of the country, I
1:15:03
think it's best pursued through elected office, and
1:15:05
I'm confident that they're going to succeed in
1:15:07
slashing and burning that federal bureaucracy.
1:15:09
People are saying you didn't get along with
1:15:11
Musk.
1:15:12
What happened there?
1:15:13
I think that's incorrect.
1:15:14
But what I would say is we had
1:15:15
different and complementary approaches.
1:15:17
I focused more on a constitutional law, legislative
1:15:19
-based approach.
1:15:20
He focused more on a technology approach, which
1:15:22
is the future approach.
1:15:23
No better person to lead that technology.
1:15:26
Did you hear it?
1:15:27
No.
1:15:28
Broge.
1:15:29
He said broge instead of doge because, of
1:15:32
course, that is what he's saying behind closed
1:15:34
doors.
1:15:35
This is just broge, man.
1:15:37
It's just the tech bros.
1:15:38
The tech bros have broge.
1:15:40
Play it again so I can hear it
1:15:42
because I was listening as hard as I
1:15:44
could for the truthfulness to come out, but
1:15:46
I missed.
1:15:47
I knew that he said broge before because
1:15:50
I'd read about it.
1:15:50
I never heard him say it, but here
1:15:52
it is.
1:15:52
No, I read about it.
1:15:53
I never heard him say it.
1:15:54
I just read about it.
1:15:56
Constitutional law, legislative-based approach.
1:15:58
He focused more on a technology approach, which
1:16:00
is the future approach.
1:16:01
No better person to lead.
1:16:02
Broge.
1:16:03
Come on.
1:16:05
Come on.
1:16:06
It's the broge.
1:16:07
Oh, you know what I heard?
1:16:10
I heard it was the future approach.
1:16:13
No, future of broge.
1:16:14
He said broge.
1:16:16
Yeah.
1:16:17
I didn't hear it because I heard something
1:16:19
else.
1:16:19
Well, speaking of the future of broge, well,
1:16:21
breaking news, CNBC.
1:16:23
Breaking, breaking, breaking.
1:16:24
X is striking a deal with Visa to
1:16:26
be the first partner for what it is
1:16:28
calling the X money account.
1:16:30
Since buying Twitter in 2022, Elon Musk has
1:16:32
talked about turning the social media site into
1:16:34
a quote everything app where users can send
1:16:37
payments and store cash.
1:16:38
By using the payment rails of Visa, the
1:16:40
world's biggest credit card network, X users can
1:16:42
move funds between traditional bank accounts and the
1:16:44
X money account.
1:16:46
They can store funds there and also make
1:16:47
instant peer-to-peer payments with other X
1:16:49
users like with Zell or Venmo, I'm told.
1:16:52
The X money service is expected to launch
1:16:54
in the first quarter and deals with more
1:16:55
financial partners are likely, said one person with
1:16:58
knowledge of the matter.
1:16:59
One of the first use cases for X
1:17:01
money is so that creators on the site
1:17:02
can accept payments and store funds without using
1:17:05
external banks.
1:17:06
I'm told.
1:17:07
Minutes ago, X Corp CEO said in a
1:17:10
post that it is, quote, first of many
1:17:12
big announcements about X money this year.
1:17:14
Hugh, I have a question about regulation with
1:17:17
regard to social media.
1:17:18
Is it different for a partnership like this
1:17:21
than it would be, say, for more traditional
1:17:23
interchanges with financial partners?
1:17:26
Yeah, Leslie, it's a fascinating question because, you
1:17:29
know, X money, Twitter has been accumulating money
1:17:32
transmitter licenses.
1:17:34
Listening to this guy, I think you're right
1:17:35
about the delivery of the snowballs or whatever
1:17:40
you, however you put it.
1:17:41
The snowstorm.
1:17:42
That's a guy yakking away like a maniac.
1:17:45
Interchanges with financial partners.
1:17:47
Yeah, Leslie, it's a fascinating question because, you
1:17:49
know, X money, Twitter has been accumulating money
1:17:53
transmitter licenses in more than 30 states over
1:17:56
the past year.
1:17:56
So they're going to be what's more like
1:17:58
Stripe or other fintech intermediaries where they're going
1:18:02
to be able to provide banking like services
1:18:04
without really going to the work of being
1:18:06
a regulated bank.
1:18:08
And so I would think that there is
1:18:09
some elements of the banking universe.
1:18:11
Think community banks, think smaller banks, which are
1:18:13
going to potentially protest this incursion by technology.
1:18:17
Yeah, we'll see.
1:18:19
I don't know, man.
1:18:20
I don't know if people will trust their
1:18:22
Twitter account with their money.
1:18:26
I'm not so sure.
1:18:27
Well, bringing Visa in is probably a smart
1:18:29
idea because they have a brand name.
1:18:31
He's doing that.
1:18:32
Well, I think he's doing that because of
1:18:34
Plaid.
1:18:34
Visa owns Plaid.
1:18:35
I think they own Plaid.
1:18:36
I think they acquired Plaid.
1:18:38
And Plaid is the connector.
1:18:40
That's how Venmo does it.
1:18:41
That's how Cash App does it.
1:18:45
That's maybe for the streets, but I don't
1:18:47
know.
1:18:48
I don't know how that's going to work,
1:18:51
which brings us to the contentious conversation we
1:18:54
need to have.
1:18:54
But I actually think we're both on the
1:18:57
same side of this, but maybe approach it
1:18:59
from slightly different vectors.
1:19:03
I like this.
1:19:03
It's my new word today, vectors.
1:19:05
Vectors.
1:19:05
Vectors.
1:19:06
Today's word is vector.
1:19:08
No, it's anachronism.
1:19:10
That's the secret word.
1:19:11
We go to NPR for some in-depth
1:19:14
reporting on DeepSeek.
1:19:17
Tech stocks have plummeted around the world over
1:19:19
the past day as Investors Digest reports that
1:19:22
a Chinese company developed a competitive AI model
1:19:25
on the cheap.
1:19:26
The company is called DeepSeek and it even
1:19:29
caught President Trump's eye.
1:19:30
The release of DeepSeek.
1:19:32
By the way, there's something with the president's
1:19:35
voice here.
1:19:37
And by the way, CheapSeek is the way
1:19:39
of what I call it.
1:19:40
I heard it.
1:19:41
It was funny.
1:19:42
But you already used it on DH Unplugged
1:19:44
as a title.
1:19:45
So I can't use it again.
1:19:46
It's not even funny.
1:19:48
I already heard it's not even funny anymore.
1:19:49
CheapSeek.
1:19:50
The president's voice is very weak here and
1:19:53
it's uncharacteristic.
1:19:55
I don't know.
1:19:56
Competitive AI model on the cheap.
1:19:58
The company is called DeepSeek and it even
1:20:01
caught President Trump's eye.
1:20:02
The release of DeepSeek AI from a Chinese
1:20:06
company should be a wake up call for
1:20:09
our industries that we need to be laser
1:20:11
focused on competing to win.
1:20:13
And PR's John Rewich is on the line
1:20:15
now from China to help make sense of
1:20:16
how big a deal this actually is.
1:20:18
We've got a guy in China.
1:20:19
Hi there.
1:20:20
So first of all, tell us about this
1:20:22
company that many people, including me, just heard
1:20:25
of now.
1:20:27
Yeah, DeepSeek is a spinoff from a Chinese
1:20:29
hedge fund.
1:20:30
It was established just two years ago in
1:20:32
2023 and it's based in the eastern city
1:20:35
of Hangzhou, which is sort of a tech
1:20:36
hub here in China.
1:20:38
And in a nutshell, what they did was
1:20:39
hire a bunch of top notch engineers and
1:20:42
develop new algorithms, basically more efficient ways of
1:20:45
training and running artificial intelligence with less computational
1:20:47
power.
1:20:48
And what's the significance of that?
1:20:50
Well, the product is said to rival tools
1:20:53
from competitors like OpenAI and Google in terms
1:20:55
of what it can do.
1:20:56
Things like analyzing data and solving complex problems.
1:21:00
It's impressed a lot of people.
1:21:01
It rattled markets.
1:21:03
And what rattled the markets is the narrative,
1:21:05
which comes with some caveats that DeepSeek basically
1:21:07
did it all cheaper, quicker and with less
1:21:10
powerful microprocessors than its big competitors.
1:21:12
It's no surprise this comes out of Hangzhou
1:21:15
because it's a very Hangzhou type of company.
1:21:18
I couldn't resist.
1:21:20
Well, one more clip and then we'll discuss.
1:21:23
OK, so tell us more about those caveats.
1:21:25
Sure.
1:21:26
The first one is around cost.
1:21:28
DeepSeek says that it spent under six million
1:21:30
dollars to make this thing.
1:21:32
That's tiny relative to the hundreds of millions
1:21:35
of dollars that others are investing, even billions.
1:21:37
But analysts say that that low figure is
1:21:39
easy to misinterpret because it doesn't include, for
1:21:41
instance, the cost of developing various versions from
1:21:45
which this latest version was distilled.
1:21:47
OK.
1:21:48
So we really don't know what the total
1:21:50
development cost was, how inexpensive it was.
1:21:52
The second caveat has to do with the
1:21:54
hardware, has to do with the chips that
1:21:56
are critical to developing AI.
1:21:57
OK, tell us more about that.
1:21:58
The Biden administration banned the best AI microprocessors
1:22:02
from being sold to China.
1:22:04
Were they able to get around it?
1:22:06
It's tricky.
1:22:07
You know, the chips that really matter for
1:22:08
AI are made by NVIDIA, which, by the
1:22:11
way, took a massive tumble on the stock
1:22:12
market after the DeepSeek news.
1:22:14
Back in 2022, NVIDIA were told they couldn't
1:22:17
sell their best product to China.
1:22:19
Of course, some of those were already those
1:22:20
chips were already there.
1:22:21
Some may have leaked in, but they made
1:22:23
a slightly downgraded version at the time that
1:22:25
they could sell to China legally.
1:22:26
That's what DeepSeek says it used to train
1:22:29
its latest model.
1:22:30
The Biden administration subsequently decided that those chips
1:22:33
were actually too powerful.
1:22:34
They banned those ones from being sold to
1:22:36
China, too.
1:22:38
That was in 2023.
1:22:39
A year had passed.
1:22:40
The horse was sort of out of the
1:22:41
barn.
1:22:41
Here's Gregory Allen, the director of the Wadwani
1:22:44
AI Center at the Center for Strategic and
1:22:46
International Studies in Washington.
1:22:47
We are currently living through the era of
1:22:50
the lagging impact of the Biden administration's misfire
1:22:55
in that first batch of AI export controls.
1:22:59
All right.
1:22:59
So you've you've looked at this.
1:23:01
You I heard some of your conversation.
1:23:04
I have some thoughts as well.
1:23:05
I'd love to hear what your take is
1:23:08
on cheap seek.
1:23:11
Well, a couple of things.
1:23:12
This was discussed and people should go back
1:23:14
and listen to DH unplugged, which we don't.
1:23:16
Which is on Wednesdays, Wednesday night.
1:23:19
You do it live.
1:23:20
And there's a podcast.
1:23:22
Listen to it.
1:23:23
It's very good.
1:23:24
Although Andrew is getting a little he's getting
1:23:26
a little uppity.
1:23:28
I think I think he lost money.
1:23:30
I think he lost money on this somehow.
1:23:32