0:00
Yeah, he bled like a little sissy.
0:02
Adam Curry, John C.
0:03
Devorah.
0:04
It's Thursday, February 27th, 2025.
0:06
This is your award-winning give on Asian
0:08
Media.
0:08
Assassination episode 1742.
0:10
This is no agenda.
0:13
Confusing, chaotic, and broadcasting live from the heart
0:17
of the TTCO country here in FEMA region
0:19
number 6.
0:20
In the morning, everybody.
0:22
I'm Adam Curry.
0:23
And from Northern Silicon Valley where we want
0:26
to remind all the kids don't eat dead
0:29
bats.
0:30
I'm John C.
0:31
Devorah.
0:31
It's crackpot and buzzkill.
0:33
In the morning.
0:35
Yeah, that was a great report.
0:37
Do you have that report?
0:38
Well, I don't have audio now.
0:40
I think I have the report.
0:42
Hold on a second.
0:43
Yes, it's the mysterious virus in the Congo.
0:46
More than 15 people have died in Northwestern
0:49
Democratic Republic of Congo because of a mystery
0:52
virus.
0:53
Mystery.
0:53
According to health experts from Bikoro Hospital, a
0:56
regional monitoring center, the symptoms resemble those linked
0:59
to deadly viruses such as Ebola and dengue.
1:02
The outbreak started at the end of January.
1:04
Whoa, whoa, whoa.
1:05
Stop.
1:06
Stop the clip.
1:08
It actually should be Ebola and Marburg.
1:12
That's a hemorrhagic...
1:13
Well, dengue is kind of, but it's really
1:17
hard to get to that point.
1:18
I don't know.
1:19
It shouldn't be any of this.
1:20
This is a bullcrap report.
1:21
Well, we know it's a bullcrap report, but
1:24
at least put Marburg in.
1:25
It's a little scarier than dengue.
1:27
The outbreak started at the end of January.
1:30
The virus was first discovered in three children
1:32
who ate a bat.
1:33
No!
1:34
More than 400 cases have been recorded so
1:37
far.
1:38
This is the most racist thing you can
1:40
imagine.
1:40
This is so racist.
1:43
It's like, yes, the little African kids are
1:45
so hungry.
1:47
They're walking around naked.
1:49
You know, these dumb African kids so they
1:51
see a dead bat and like any other
1:53
child would immediately go eat it.
1:56
I mean, come on.
1:57
Kids won't even eat vegetables.
2:00
Now, who's racist now?
2:01
You don't know about the African diet.
2:05
They eat bats by the side of the
2:07
road.
2:07
Oh, no, Jimmy.
2:09
Let's go eat the dead bat instead of
2:11
going yuck and running away like a kid
2:14
would.
2:15
I want to meet those kids.
2:17
I want an interview with them.
2:19
Don't just give me that story.
2:20
Give me the background.
2:21
I want these kids going, well, you know,
2:23
we saw the bat and we said, haven't
2:25
had food in five days.
2:26
I think we'll eat the bat.
2:28
It looks so tasty, this dead bat.
2:30
We need more information on this.
2:32
We can't just take this at face value.
2:34
That's no good.
2:36
Hey, I'm going to sum up the week's
2:39
M5M because as we have noted on this
2:43
program for probably all of our 17 plus
2:46
years, the media likes to glom onto one
2:49
certain phrase and repeat it over and over
2:52
ad nauseam.
2:53
And here is this week's phrase.
2:54
Tonight, confusion and chaos is spreading within a
2:57
number of agencies across the federal government.
3:00
Tonight, chaos and confusion across the federal government.
3:03
This morning, chaos and confusion across the federal
3:05
government.
3:06
This morning, there's more chaos and confusion within
3:08
the federal government.
3:09
We have been reporting on the chaos and
3:11
confusion.
3:12
Chaos and confusion has already broken out.
3:14
Other than his mega cult, nobody wants this
3:17
chaos and confusion.
3:18
How do you see this chaos and confusion
3:20
ending?
3:21
There is a lot of confusion, lots of
3:24
chaos.
3:24
Of course it's creating chaos and confusion.
3:27
The Musk-inspired chaos and confusion in the
3:29
federal government sows the seeds of more chaos
3:32
and more confusion and more disillusionment.
3:35
Oh, chaos and confusion.
3:37
That's what it is.
3:38
Yeah, I'm glad you got that because I
3:39
had a supercut but it was mostly chaos,
3:44
chaos, chaos.
3:45
But chaos and confusion, that's the clip.
3:48
That's the combo.
3:49
And alliteration is great in broadcasts.
3:52
They always like to do the one-two
3:53
punch, you know, safe and effective.
3:57
Chaos and confusion.
3:59
Now, if you want to know the source
4:00
of the chaos and confusion, I am so
4:02
happy that this man is back on the
4:04
no-agenda scene.
4:05
He's back on our radar.
4:07
He is an end-of-show mix in
4:09
the making.
4:09
I present to you the man who can
4:11
tell you exactly why we have chaos and
4:13
confusion, the one, the only, running for mayor,
4:16
Reverend Manning.
4:17
Elon Musk, the richest man in the world,
4:21
gave transgender Tribulation Trump $280 million to his
4:26
campaign.
4:27
That's what he gave on the top of
4:28
the table.
4:29
And now he owns Trump.
4:32
That's right.
4:33
He owns Trump.
4:35
Whatever he tells Trump to do, Trump jumps.
4:37
When Elon Musk said, Trump, Trump jumps.
4:40
When Elon Musk said, Trump, Trump jumps.
4:43
Trump, Trump, Trump.
4:45
When Elon Musk said, Trump, Trump jumps.
5:07
Jump, Trump, jump, jump, jump.
5:09
What Elon Musk said, Trump, Trump, got the
5:12
jump.
5:12
Man, that guy is so good.
5:14
It's so good to have him back.
5:16
For some reason, he's always been a Trump
5:18
hater.
5:19
You know, he had hated him during the
5:22
first go-around, and he never was, we
5:26
never got anything from him during the Biden
5:28
era.
5:28
He hated Obama to an extreme.
5:30
Oh yeah, big time, yeah.
5:32
And then he hated Trump, but he never
5:34
really hated on Biden so much.
5:37
Yeah.
5:38
At least we never picked up on it.
5:40
I always found that peculiar.
5:42
Well, he's running for mayor in New York
5:45
City, which is great.
5:46
Well, it'd be definitely entertaining.
5:48
It is great.
5:49
And I guess Cuomo, the old Cuomo guy's
5:51
gonna run too.
5:52
Oh yeah, he looks like he's been on
5:54
the O, man.
5:55
He's been sucking down the- Mario?
5:56
Yeah, he looks like a bit of Ozympic
5:58
face and body.
6:00
He's deflated.
6:01
It's quite interesting.
6:03
Huh, I haven't seen him.
6:05
He's smaller than he used to be.
6:06
I have bad news, although it's in a
6:10
way- Can I guess the bad news?
6:11
You'll never guess.
6:13
They're not gonna bring out the Epstein stuff
6:15
that Pam Bondi promised yesterday on the Jesse
6:19
Watters show.
6:19
I saw, actually, I heard her promise that.
6:22
I was driving back from Dallas listening to
6:24
my Sirius XM receiver.
6:26
I heard her say, oh, Jesse, oh, it's
6:28
coming out.
6:29
We're gonna release it tomorrow.
6:30
Oh, it's so bad.
6:32
Oh, you won't, it's so bad.
6:33
We'll see.
6:35
It's supposed to be today.
6:36
I'm waiting.
6:37
No, I think she said Friday.
6:38
I thought she said Friday.
6:39
No, no, she said today.
6:40
She said tomorrow.
6:42
Okay.
6:42
And that was yesterday, so it's supposed to
6:45
be today.
6:45
But tomorrow never comes, John.
6:47
We all know.
6:47
And Friday is Zelensky Day.
6:49
He's on the plane.
6:51
I saw a video of him getting on
6:53
the, and right now, Keir Starmer is sitting
6:55
in the Oval Office, and he's sitting, doing
7:00
one of those press things where they all
7:01
yell at Trump about China and other things
7:03
and tariffs and blah, blah, blah.
7:05
You said Europe was built to screw us.
7:08
And Keir Starmer looks like he's gonna puke.
7:10
He's just, his eyes are all wide.
7:12
He looks frightened.
7:14
It's really something to behold.
7:16
There was, I was watching some of the
7:18
Fox coverage because I think it's probably better
7:22
news, generally speaking, but when they do news.
7:26
It's not as funny.
7:28
They talk about Starmer, and nobody seems to,
7:32
none of these, especially the analysts, nobody seems
7:34
to want to mention the fact that Starmer's
7:36
the guy, as the head of the Labor
7:39
Party, who sent a bunch of operatives over
7:41
to the United States to campaign for Kamala
7:44
Harris, and nobody wants to discuss the fact
7:46
that that could be souring the relationship between
7:49
the United States and the UK.
7:50
Well, why would they do that?
7:51
That's not funny.
7:53
That's not funny.
7:54
We have to be hair on fire.
7:57
Okay, so I had four and a half
8:00
hours in the car, and I listened to
8:01
as much CNN as I could, as much
8:03
MSNBC as I could.
8:06
And, you know, Frau Ingraham was at Gitmo.
8:09
That was super boring to listen to.
8:12
But the spin-up is just out of
8:14
control.
8:15
And here's the bad news.
8:18
So like many Americans, we have liberals in
8:21
our families.
8:22
And one of our liberal family members is
8:26
so spun up and just, just completely, it's
8:32
not working.
8:33
Going all out of control about Trump's gonna
8:37
cut Medicare.
8:38
Trump's gonna cut Social Security.
8:41
It's gonna hurt everybody.
8:42
It's gonna hurt me.
8:43
I won't have any medical, you know, just,
8:45
and by the way, Trump can't do any
8:48
of that.
8:48
Only Congress can do it.
8:49
Not only that, but Trump specifically said that
8:51
he's not going to.
8:53
I know, but you know, this is what
8:55
the media, and so my question was, where
8:57
are you getting this from?
8:58
Well, I know that you're getting others, you
9:00
know, it's respectful, by the way.
9:02
This is the good news about our family
9:03
is, you know, everybody can give their opinion
9:06
and know, and everyone still loves each other.
9:09
That's quite spectacular, honestly.
9:12
So far.
9:13
Yeah, because we're hanging on by a thread.
9:17
And so where are you getting this from?
9:18
Well, I listen to big platforms like, what
9:22
do you think?
9:23
Well, it'd be the New York Times, MSNBC,
9:26
CNN, Deutsche Welle.
9:32
Big platforms, I don't know how much bigger
9:35
I can get.
9:36
Midas Touch.
9:39
Oh, really?
9:40
Yes.
9:41
And they think that's a big platform?
9:42
Well, if you look on YouTube, every episode
9:45
has over a million views and they do
9:47
15 a day.
9:49
And each episode is about 15, 16 minutes.
9:52
They are really flooding the zone and it's
9:54
working.
9:56
Well, that's the way you do it.
9:57
And you know, you get the news, like
9:59
they dethrone.
10:00
I mean, the whole psyop was perfect.
10:03
It's like, you know, tell everybody that they've
10:05
dethroned Joe Rogan and then they tune in.
10:08
And it's just the one of the brothers,
10:10
I think they do switch off and they
10:11
just sit there.
10:13
And I mean, every single title is clickbait,
10:16
Trump's losing it out of control.
10:19
No grasp, Elon's the president.
10:21
It goes on and on and on and
10:22
on.
10:23
And so when it comes to, so I
10:24
just pulled up two clips from this horrendous
10:29
podcast.
10:31
And so they're really riling people up and
10:34
they're doing a good job.
10:36
I have to say, cause they're complete insiders.
10:39
You know, they had a political action committee
10:41
for the Democrat party.
10:42
You know, one of them is a lawyer.
10:44
The other one is Colin Kaepernick's business partner.
10:47
These are not just some bros from Brooklyn.
10:50
They've been on the inside and it's better
10:52
than, what is that stupid show?
10:55
Pod Save America.
10:57
I think they've completely taken those, you know,
11:01
cause Pod Save America was all hate Republicans,
11:04
hate Trump, all stupid, but they were kind
11:06
of hoity-toity for like the, you know,
11:09
like the New York elite set, the Washington
11:11
elites, because they were also former Obama speech
11:14
writers and they got into kind of the
11:16
weeds of the political process.
11:18
These guys, they just come out and go
11:20
blah, blah, blah, blah.
11:22
And anything Trump does is dumb.
11:24
And so this is a clip I heard
11:25
last night on my way home.
11:27
This country has gotten bloated and fat and
11:29
disgusting and incompetently run.
11:32
Mirror, mirror on the wall.
11:34
That was Donald Trump apparently talking about himself
11:36
during his first cabinet meeting of his new
11:39
term.
11:39
Donald Trump was joined by his puppet master,
11:42
Elon Musk, who led much of the meeting,
11:44
which was completely bizarre, full of lies.
11:47
And at times Donald Trump didn't even seem
11:48
to acknowledge that he is actually the president.
11:51
Are you kind of starting to get what
11:52
they're doing here?
11:54
This is Rachel Maddow to an extreme without
11:57
the smug, dumb pauses of Rachel Maddow.
12:00
I have to say they're doing a good
12:02
job here.
12:03
My name is Brett Micellis with Midas Touch.
12:05
I'm going to walk you through the lowlights
12:06
and fact check it all.
12:07
But first, remember to hit subscribe to help
12:09
us get to 5 million subscribers.
12:11
The meeting began with a prayer where they
12:13
thanked God for President Trump, just completely bizarre
12:16
stuff.
12:17
Completely bizarre.
12:18
They're praying in the cabinet meeting is no
12:20
good.
12:21
Watch this.
12:21
Father, we thank you for this awesome privilege,
12:25
Father, to be in your presence.
12:28
God, thank you that you've allowed us to
12:29
see this day.
12:31
The Bible says that your mercies are new
12:32
every morning.
12:34
And Father God, we give you the glory
12:35
and the honor.
12:36
Thank you, God, for President Trump, Father, for
12:39
appointing us.
12:40
Father God, thank you for anointing us to
12:42
do this job.
12:43
Trump then didn't even seem to know that
12:45
he is president right now.
12:46
And he said that while egg prices are
12:48
a disaster and are really high now, they
12:51
were low with him.
12:52
These eggs are a disaster.
12:54
The Secretary of Agriculture is going to be
12:57
showing you a chart that's actually mind boggling
12:59
what's happened, how low they were with us
13:01
and how high they are now.
13:03
So all this questioning, lead-ins, like, well,
13:07
of course they were lower.
13:08
They didn't have bird flu when he was
13:09
president the first time.
13:11
But then everything is with this interesting slant
13:15
and it's working.
13:16
It's just working.
13:19
I have to say, they are spinning people
13:21
up and they're doing a better job than
13:23
any of those mainstream outlets you mentioned, particularly
13:27
because it's a nonstop barrage.
13:29
And so the bad news is now I'm
13:32
going to have to follow these jamokes.
13:33
Now I'm going to have to listen to
13:34
what they're doing.
13:34
Good, I'm glad you're going to do it
13:35
because I can't stand listening to them.
13:37
They're also riling up everybody about the backlash,
13:41
the Doge backlash.
13:43
So yeah, there's backlash by people who are
13:46
spun up.
13:46
It's, I'm pretty sure it's- By them.
13:49
Yes, well, listen to it.
13:50
You'll get the idea of how they're doing
13:52
this.
13:52
And then I'll, I don't have any more
13:54
of them today, but I'm going to have
13:55
to have at least one each show.
13:57
Let me just show you a longer clip
13:58
from that town hall.
14:00
And then I want to show you that
14:01
from Wisconsin to Georgia, to New York, to
14:06
the West Coast, people are rising up right
14:10
now.
14:11
And having their voices heard.
14:13
They're rising up.
14:14
Red states, blue states, purple states, all of
14:18
the colors.
14:19
People are angry.
14:21
People are pissed.
14:22
People demand action.
14:24
Watch this right here from that town hall.
14:27
Let's play it.
14:27
They didn't like some of Scott Fitzgerald's answers.
14:31
The end result of the fraud and abuse
14:33
that has been discovered already.
14:38
Michael Wittig is concerned with Elon Musk's role
14:41
in the Trump administration.
14:43
He held up a sign that red presidents
14:45
are not kings.
14:47
Are you going to subpoena him?
14:48
You can guess that this guy was not
14:49
a Republican rising up with a sign like
14:52
that.
14:52
Well, no, actually there was, somebody researched this
14:54
out and discovered it was a left-wing
14:56
organization, an activist.
14:58
There wasn't a Republican in the place.
15:01
That's the point.
15:02
And they were making a fuss as if
15:04
they were Republicans.
15:05
And you're telling me that Midas Touch with
15:07
all their quote unquote fact-checking that they
15:09
claim didn't bring this up?
15:12
I'm not going to claim it.
15:13
I'm going to say that's exactly what happened.
15:15
And I'm saying it with evidence.
15:17
Are not kings.
15:18
Are you going to subpoena him at some
15:19
point?
15:20
After you're done with the budget or whatever.
15:21
Are you willing to use your subpoena power
15:23
to say Trump, or sorry, Musk, come in
15:26
here, stand in front of Congress and answer
15:28
some hard questions.
15:29
Congressman Fitzgerald insists Musk's efforts to find waste
15:33
and fraud are working and Congress will eventually
15:35
have budget oversight.
15:37
So now I want to share with you
15:38
what was going down in New York.
15:40
Going down.
15:41
And Representative Paul Tonko.
15:43
Going down.
15:43
Congressional District Democrat, Paul Tonko, here at this
15:48
town hall, a huge ovation.
15:50
Interesting how he uses a Trump huge instead
15:53
of huge.
15:54
That just caught that for some reason.
15:56
Here at this town hall, a huge ovation.
16:00
I think that's intentional.
16:02
As a teacher.
16:03
Well, yeah, that's also, Bernie also says that.
16:06
Encourages Congressmember Paul Tonko, who is pushing back
16:10
to do more, to work harder, even if
16:13
that means getting arrested for civil disobedience.
16:17
You're in public service right now.
16:19
You cannot sit idly by as Elon Musk
16:22
and these billionaires take away all of people's
16:26
rights and freedoms.
16:27
Watch the energy in this room in New
16:29
York.
16:30
Play this clip.
16:31
Yeah, so we're not going to play this
16:32
clip.
16:32
But they are, they're really, it's working.
16:34
So they're basically gaslighting.
16:36
Oh, totally gaslighting.
16:38
And they're doing a good job of it,
16:39
is what you're claiming.
16:41
Yes, yes.
16:42
And you have proof of that by virtue
16:44
of the fact that you have relatives in
16:46
your own family circle that have been gaslit
16:49
by these guys and they're all spun up.
16:51
So I'll just read you some titles.
16:53
Just to summarize on your behalf.
16:55
Trump morning disaster.
16:56
Major SCOTUS order.
16:58
Release the files.
16:59
Whoa, Canada.
17:00
And mic drop.
17:01
He's freaking out.
17:03
Fatal move, Donald.
17:04
Stay the hell out, Donald.
17:06
Total loser move.
17:07
Show me the evidence.
17:09
Whoa, it's happening.
17:12
These are the titles.
17:13
And they've already released one, two, three, four,
17:16
five, six, seven, eight.
17:19
They've already released eight so far today.
17:21
And we're not even at 130.
17:23
And each one has up to, well, it
17:27
takes about six hours and they get up
17:29
to about a million views.
17:30
Not all of them, but the majority of
17:33
them.
17:33
So they're doing, and that's just YouTube.
17:35
So they're doing it right.
17:37
And it's working.
17:38
And they should get a medal.
17:41
From- Oh, they'll get a medal, all
17:42
right.
17:42
Oh yeah.
17:44
Some precious medal is what they're getting.
17:46
So yeah.
17:47
And they have ads and they're probably making
17:49
movie.
17:50
Not movie, making money.
17:52
I say making movies because Gene Hackman died.
17:57
Well, he did.
17:58
Oh yeah, well, did you not hear this?
17:59
This is- No, I- Oh, this
18:01
is an interesting story.
18:02
This morning, authorities investigating the death of a
18:05
Hollywood legend.
18:06
Gene Hackman found dead Wednesday alongside his wife,
18:09
classical pianist, Betsy Arakawa, in their home in
18:12
Santa Fe.
18:13
Police say the couple who married in 1991
18:16
were found with their dog after a neighbor
18:18
called police to do a welfare check.
18:20
So he, his wife, and the dog were
18:23
all dead.
18:26
And there's no suspected foul play.
18:29
And we don't have an answer.
18:31
Yeah, I'm thinking carbon monoxide.
18:33
Absolutely.
18:34
That's what I'm thinking.
18:35
He's 95.
18:36
You don't need a lot of- But
18:37
she was only 65, I think.
18:39
She wasn't all that old.
18:40
And the dog, you know, the dog being
18:43
dead, and there's no mention of guns, and
18:46
explosions, and poison pills anywhere.
18:49
If the dog is also dead, then I'm
18:51
thinking carbon monoxide.
18:54
But it's just in time to promote the
18:57
Oscars.
18:57
That's the good news.
18:59
Never, never, never, never put any- Yeah,
19:01
never miss out on that.
19:02
Well, it's like the other person that divorces
19:05
is Trachtenberg actress.
19:08
Who was that?
19:09
Trachtenberg?
19:09
She was on Buffy, and a bunch of
19:12
other, Gossip Girl, and whatever.
19:15
And she was 39.
19:18
And of course, the first thing they dug
19:20
up was tweets of her condemning people for
19:22
not getting vaxxed.
19:24
Oh, goodness.
19:26
Well, I might as well play one Oscar
19:28
clip just to get it out of the
19:31
way, because it's this coming Sunday.
19:33
And they're doing everything they can.
19:35
Let's promote it, and let's keep dying on
19:37
those hills, everybody.
19:38
Activist and writer April Rain is reflecting on
19:41
the viral moment that turned into a movement.
19:44
It all started when she was watching the
19:46
Oscar nominations in 2015.
19:49
It struck me that category after category, there
19:52
were no people of color nominated for any
19:54
of the acting slots.
19:55
There you go.
19:55
I mean, zero for 20.
19:57
Rain's viral call for change produced real results
20:00
at the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and
20:03
Sciences.
20:04
Since hashtag OscarsSoWhite, the Academy made an effort
20:08
to diversify its pool of members who get
20:11
to vote on who should win the Academy
20:13
Awards.
20:14
So that people who don't look like me
20:17
or don't look like you aren't making decisions
20:20
for me without getting my input.
20:23
That change is noticeable.
20:25
Last year, 20% of the Academy nominees
20:28
were from an underrepresented racial or ethnic group.
20:31
That's compared to just 9% in 2015.
20:34
Rain says while the Academy has improved its
20:37
on-screen diversity, there's more work to be
20:40
done behind the camera.
20:41
I see more people, actors and producers, directors,
20:47
creating their own production companies.
20:49
No longer waiting for their seat at the
20:51
table, but creating their own mansion and putting
20:54
their table and chair in it.
20:56
And Rain had this advice for those feeling
20:58
discriminated and marginalized.
21:00
Do not let anyone tell you that you
21:02
don't belong in the room.
21:04
Go and claim your space.
21:06
Okay, so I guess, claim your space.
21:08
Podcasts are so white.
21:10
Yeah, yeah, right.
21:12
They are.
21:13
Well, that's not true because we're gonna see
21:15
a lot more podcasters of color, also known
21:18
as POCs.
21:21
POCs, POCs, yes.
21:22
We also have Gavin Newsom, who's decided instead
21:25
of governing the state of California, he's gonna
21:27
podcast.
21:28
Yeah, I haven't listened yet.
21:30
That's gonna be a winner.
21:31
Yeah, no, the POCs are going to be
21:33
Joy Reid's podcast, Lester Holt's podcast.
21:36
They're all gonna be POCs, POCcasters.
21:38
There you go, POCcasters.
21:41
POCcasters.
21:42
I'm gonna have to write that one down
21:43
just in case.
21:45
Yeah, yeah.
21:47
And remember, remember that it is a podcaster
21:55
who is now assistant director of the FBI.
21:59
I mean, this is an outrage.
22:02
Bongino.
22:03
Code Bongino.
22:04
Code Bongino.
22:05
Yes.
22:06
I wonder what his code name will be,
22:08
Bongino.
22:09
I think I have a clip, hold on
22:11
a second.
22:13
Where is that?
22:14
Is it under, I'm over, oh, here we
22:17
go, yes.
22:18
Over to Pooper.
22:19
Yet another prominent MAGA Media personality.
22:22
MAGA Media personality.
22:24
MAGA Media.
22:25
Hey, everybody, MAGA Media here.
22:27
Yet another prominent MAGA Media personality.
22:29
I like MAGA Media as a show title,
22:31
by the way.
22:31
MAGA Media, okay.
22:32
Yet another prominent MAGA Media personality has been
22:35
tapped for a top role in the Trump
22:36
administration.
22:37
This time it is podcaster, next Secret Service
22:39
agent, Dan Bongino.
22:40
Podcaster.
22:41
The first thing you get, podcasting's come a
22:43
long way, John.
22:44
I want credit.
22:46
He's got a good background.
22:48
When they say podcaster, they should say created
22:51
by Adam Curry.
22:52
And this time it is podcaster, next Secret
22:53
Service agent, Dan Bongino.
22:55
Yeah, exactly, like Brunetti.
22:56
I bet Brunetti's balls you'd be pushing this.
22:59
I'd sue him, I'd sue him, I tell
23:00
you.
23:01
Administration.
23:01
This time it is podcaster, next Secret Service
23:03
agent, Dan Bongino.
23:05
The president announced in a social media post
23:07
late last night that, quote, great news for
23:09
law enforcement and American justice.
23:10
Dan Bongino, a man of incredible love and
23:12
passion for our country, has just been named
23:14
the next deputy director of the FBI by
23:16
the man who will be the best ever
23:18
director, Kash Patel.
23:20
Now, we should point out, the deputy director
23:21
oversees the day-to-day operations of the
23:23
bureau, and typically the role is held by
23:25
career federal agents, which Bongino isn't.
23:28
A decade or so ago, Mr. Bongino appeared
23:29
on this program a number of times, giving
23:31
thoughtful and serious commentary on law enforcement matters.
23:34
This was him in 2014.
23:36
Okay, thoughtful.
23:37
Police departments in general, Anderson, there is a
23:40
crisis in policing, and it's a crisis in
23:42
training, despite what some of the other guests
23:44
have said.
23:45
I was there, I went through the police
23:46
academy three times, twice with the NYPD and
23:48
once with the Secret Service.
23:50
There is a crisis in training.
23:51
It is not taking- Does that mean
23:52
that he didn't pass, that he had to
23:54
go through it three times?
23:55
I thought the same exact thing.
23:57
If you had to go, hmm, he didn't
24:00
make it?
24:01
It's interesting.
24:01
I went through the police academy three times,
24:04
twice with the NYPD and once with the
24:05
Secret Service.
24:06
There is a crisis in training.
24:07
It is not taken seriously in America.
24:10
Well, he was last on this program in
24:11
March of 2016, and the year since, he's
24:13
grown into an outspoken member of the right
24:16
-wing media sphere.
24:17
Right-wing media sphere?
24:20
Bring back MAGA Media.
24:21
The president, he often appeared on Fox, attacking
24:24
the Mueller investigation during the first Trump administration,
24:26
and adopted the philosophy that he described as
24:29
being centered around, quote, owning the libs.
24:31
Own the libs at every opportunity, online, at
24:35
the election booth, in your activism.
24:37
Don't let them up.
24:38
Own the libs.
24:39
Own the libs.
24:41
I have one more clip from this pooper
24:42
escapade.
24:43
Mr. Bongino gained a lot of traction during
24:45
COVID.
24:46
This vaccine never had anything to do with
24:51
science at all.
24:53
Never had anything to do with COVID either.
24:55
Man, it's the COVID vaccine.
24:57
It did not prevent the spread of COVID.
25:00
If masks work, why aren't they working?
25:03
Because the left doesn't care if they work.
25:05
President Trump has certainly approved of his questioning
25:08
the legitimacy of the 2020 election.
25:10
Donald Trump was calling out basically a flawed
25:14
election for what it was.
25:15
A flawed election.
25:17
As the chief executive of the United States,
25:19
it's his job to question an election if
25:22
he believes there was corruption.
25:23
That's his actual job, to go and enforce
25:26
the laws, the president and chief executive.
25:28
But when the FBI searched the president's home
25:30
in Mar-a-Lago for classified documents in
25:32
2022, Bongino went on Fox to condemn the
25:35
very agency he is now being tasked to
25:37
help run.
25:37
This is such an interesting statement.
25:39
Folks, the FBI is lost.
25:42
It's broken, irredeemably corrupt at this point.
25:46
The inexcusable raid on President Trump's home was
25:49
a straw that broke the camel's back.
25:50
Fire anyone involved in the raid.
25:52
I don't want to hear any more rank
25:54
-and-file stuff.
25:54
I was a rank-and-file.
25:55
I saw stuff I didn't like.
25:57
I left.
25:57
It's not hard.
25:58
You swore an oath to the Constitution.
26:00
That matters.
26:01
If you played any role in this raid,
26:03
you should be gone.
26:05
That seems like a good thing, that you
26:07
want the guy who sees the corruption to
26:09
be in there, but Anderson Cooper makes it
26:11
sound like, oh, he called them out.
26:14
I can't believe he's going to lead them
26:15
now.
26:17
Everything's so bizarre.
26:19
Well, I'm going to go back to the
26:20
Oscars thing and this black theory.
26:22
Okay.
26:24
Because the Met Gala's the other thing happening.
26:28
Did I miss it?
26:29
Did it happen already?
26:29
No, no, it's coming.
26:31
Oh, oh, yay, I can still see it.
26:32
When is it?
26:33
What channel?
26:34
Well, I don't know what channel it's going
26:36
to be on, but the Met Gala's a
26:37
little more ridiculous than the Oscars.
26:40
And I have a report from PBS and
26:43
it brings out this new, they're going to
26:45
emphasize POC on the Met Gala by promoting
26:49
what's called, well, play clip one of this
26:52
series here.
26:53
This spring, the annual Met Gala.
26:55
Did you say cut one?
26:57
Did you say play cut one?
27:00
I said clip one, I think.
27:02
I thought you said cut one, like I'm
27:03
a producer.
27:04
I don't have a cut.
27:05
That's, I was confused.
27:07
Clip one.
27:07
Play the first clip.
27:09
Yes, thank you.
27:10
This spring, the annual Met Gala in New
27:12
York City, one of the bigger fashion events
27:15
of the year will highlight the indelible style
27:17
of black men.
27:18
The Met's 2025 exhibition titled, Superfine, Tailoring Black
27:22
Style opens in May and explores the emergence
27:25
and significance of the black dandy.
27:28
We looked into the rich and complicated historical
27:30
style and its relevance today.
27:32
It's part of our ongoing series, Race Matters.
27:35
The black dandy?
27:38
So, this is more, a little more extreme
27:41
than the Oscars.
27:42
This is great.
27:43
The black dandy.
27:44
So the black dandy, and there, I think
27:47
it's the second clip here that has the,
27:50
or the second cut that has the little
27:54
gem in here.
27:55
Let's play.
27:55
This is quite fascinating to me because, it's
28:02
just because what are you guys up to
28:05
now?
28:05
Now, as you may have noticed, I always
28:07
have not one, but two wardrobe setups in
28:11
this office.
28:12
Growing up in New York City, Dandy Wellington
28:14
says he started paying special attention to his
28:16
appearance at an early age.
28:18
His style inspired by the Harlem Renaissance.
28:21
And the name fits his persona.
28:23
He's a dandy.
28:25
Clothes tailored, hats pristine, and attitude refined.
28:28
It's a worldwide community.
28:30
So, I'll be inspired by people who are
28:34
in Paris, who are in LA, you know,
28:36
people who are in the Congo.
28:38
There is such a connection to style and
28:41
also a connection to culture.
28:43
You know, the history of black dandyism and
28:47
black sartorial style is complicated.
28:50
It's wrapped up in migration and civil rights.
28:54
Dandyism was first introduced to black culture during
28:57
the transatlantic slave trade.
28:59
Well-dressed enslaved men were seen as fixtures
29:02
of wealth for their enslavers.
29:04
But tailored attire and wit also offered a
29:07
path for black men to imagine possibility and
29:09
power.
29:10
From 18th century England to today, it's a
29:13
way of being that has evolved with the
29:15
times.
29:16
The black dandy is a complicated figure throughout
29:19
history.
29:20
We spoke recently with Washington Post senior critic
29:22
at large, Robin Givhan, who has long covered
29:25
the fashion industry.
29:26
There was, you know, this sort of early
29:28
idea of enslaved black men who were often
29:32
sort of dressed in fine clothing in order
29:36
to reflect the status of the enslaver.
29:40
And you also have black dandies who sort
29:44
of played with the idea of gender and
29:46
really sort of tapped into sort of feminine
29:49
tropes, taking ownership of their body and their
29:53
presence, but, you know, embellishing it in a
29:57
way that signifies its value and its strength.
30:01
I need to talk to Mo about it.
30:03
I looked at the Urban Dictionary, black dandy,
30:06
man who takes great care with his clothing,
30:08
general appearance, but number two is flamboyant or
30:11
effeminate male, regardless of sexual orientation.
30:15
I can see where this is a problem,
30:16
but this is the theme for this year
30:18
at the Met Gala?
30:19
Yes, this is the theme for the Met
30:21
Gala.
30:23
And this is nothing new.
30:26
I mean, I think sometimes it referred to
30:28
as styling.
30:29
Well, Madonna had black dandies in her dancers
30:33
all throughout the 80s and most of the
30:35
90s.
30:35
There you go.
30:36
And then you have, if you watch an
30:39
NBA game, they always like to throw the
30:42
camera into the, you know, the walk into
30:46
the locker room shot, which has become a
30:51
pretty standard fare, I'd say, over the last
30:55
decade.
30:56
And it's always, out of the whole team,
31:00
there's about two black guys on any team
31:02
that dress like, you know, I would say
31:06
flamboyantly gay.
31:09
And- Are you saying my favorite sports
31:12
ball game is gay?
31:13
Your sports ball game?
31:16
It seems so.
31:17
And so anyway, onward with cut three.
31:20
You can't keep doing this.
31:22
Tell me more about that.
31:23
The idea that the black dandy aesthetic is
31:26
in some way a form of resistance in
31:30
that it challenges stereotypes about black identity and
31:33
black masculinity.
31:35
For a lot of dandies, part of their
31:38
way of dressing is quite emotive and sexual.
31:42
And that breaks definitely some of the cultural
31:46
expectations of black men.
31:49
But at the same time, during the civil
31:51
rights movement, the way that activists dressed was
31:55
to reflect the degree of sort of respect
31:59
that they not only had for themselves, but
32:02
also the respect that they were demanding from
32:05
society at large.
32:07
For some leaders in the fight for civil
32:09
rights, how they dressed was a critical part
32:11
of achieving their agenda.
32:13
Frederick Douglass was the most photographed man amongst
32:16
his contemporaries in the 19th century.
32:20
And he dressed up.
32:21
Anytime you saw Frederick Douglass, he was dressed
32:23
up.
32:24
Curator Chantrelle P.
32:25
Lewis is the author of Dandelion, The Black
32:28
Dandy and Street Style.
32:30
In the 20th century, W.E.B. Du
32:32
Bois was very fixated on fighting racism, fighting
32:37
oppression through aesthetics.
32:40
In a time post-Rayvon Martin, post many
32:43
different incidents of police violence in the U
32:47
.S., there was like a large mass movement
32:50
of young black people in urban areas, whether
32:54
in the U.S. and the U.K.
32:56
and South Africa that began really dressing up
32:59
for themselves and for their own sense of
33:02
cultural pride and dignity.
33:05
It's interesting they bring in Frederick Douglass.
33:08
You would definitely call him a Republican and
33:11
a biblical scholar and W.E.B. Du
33:14
Bois.
33:15
Phoebe, it's okay.
33:16
It's just The Black Dandy.
33:17
W.E.B. Du Bois is a communist,
33:21
but okay.
33:21
No, but Frederick Douglass was a Phoebe Republican.
33:26
I might have to add Phoebe's a white
33:27
dog and she just can't handle all the
33:29
black talk.
33:30
She's very racist.
33:33
Some dogs are.
33:34
So I used to have a dog that
33:36
was literally racist.
33:39
You did?
33:40
Yeah.
33:42
I believe you.
33:43
You don't even have to explain, I believe
33:45
you.
33:46
Like Elon's kid.
33:48
Hey, shh, it's okay.
33:49
It's just The Black Dandy.
33:52
Anyway, okay.
33:54
So yeah, I know lots of black men
33:56
who like to dress up, but they dress
33:58
up in their Timberlands and very well-ironed
34:05
shirts.
34:06
Even if it's a sports team, yeah, they
34:08
look impeccable.
34:10
When I went to- They look good.
34:11
They're looking good.
34:12
When I went to school for my three
34:14
months at my alma mater, Salem College, my
34:18
roommate Ty from Trenton, New Jersey, he showed
34:22
me how to wash my clothes.
34:23
He says, what are you doing?
34:24
I said, I'm washing my clothes.
34:25
No, no, no, son.
34:26
And he got me my own Tide.
34:30
You want this.
34:31
Got me my own Tide, showed me how
34:33
to iron.
34:34
So yeah, I don't understand.
34:36
Why is this now the theme for the
34:39
Met Gala?
34:39
Doesn't everybody dress up nice for the Gala?
34:43
Yes, they do.
34:44
Now, I was going to, we got one
34:48
more clip left, and I'm not gonna use,
34:50
I have to mention something, though, just because
34:52
I did the cut thing and you told
34:56
me to stop.
34:58
Jesse Waters, on his show, I think two
35:00
or three shows ago, opened the show by
35:03
calling the show, it's Jesse Waters Prime Time,
35:07
and he stupidly called it Jesse Waters World,
35:10
which is his old show.
35:11
Oh, yeah, Waters World.
35:13
And so Kevin McCarthy was one of the
35:16
guests, and he kept giving Waters grief throughout
35:21
the interview.
35:22
He says, well, I'm glad to be on
35:24
Waters World.
35:25
Wow.
35:26
And then he gave him grief at the
35:28
end, saying, well, it was good, because I
35:29
haven't been on Waters World for a while.
35:31
And I'm thinking, what kind of relationship do
35:34
these two have?
35:35
You know?
35:36
McCarthy's on Waters Show all the time.
35:39
Yeah.
35:40
I don't know.
35:42
It's very interesting.
35:44
I don't know.
35:44
All I heard was Waters saying to Pam
35:48
Bondi, did I congratulate you yet?
35:50
I don't know if I congratulated you.
35:52
And she says, not personally, but you texted
35:54
me.
35:56
That's a little too close for comfort.
35:58
Yeah, it's insidious, is the word you're looking
36:01
for.
36:01
Thank you.
36:01
A little too close for comfort.
36:03
Call it insidiousness if you must.
36:05
All right, we'll continue.
36:06
Throughout history, black style movements have been closely
36:09
linked to individual identity.
36:11
And with a style that's moved across the
36:13
globe, every dandy is unique, each with a
36:16
swagger of his own.
36:18
Swagger.
36:18
You could have someone like me, who's very
36:19
much connected to the jazz age and the
36:21
swing era, vintage as the inspiration.
36:25
But then of course, there's also black dandies
36:27
that wear Ankara prints and black dandies that
36:31
use street wear as their, you know, node
36:33
of expression.
36:35
There is a generation of black men, as
36:37
you well know, who take such pride in
36:39
dressing to the nines, a perfectly coordinated suit
36:42
with gleaming alligator shoes.
36:44
They would probably describe themselves as having swagger.
36:48
They probably wouldn't describe themselves as being a
36:51
dandy.
36:52
How do you draw that line between sort
36:54
of exuding old school cool and being a
36:58
black dandy?
36:58
Oh, brother.
36:59
I grew up in Detroit and I think
37:00
about some of the men who firmly believe
37:05
that if your shoes were not matching your
37:07
suit, then you were just sort of not
37:09
properly dressed.
37:11
And for some black men, just being seen
37:15
in sort of full technicolor is an incredible
37:19
victory.
37:20
Well, I can't wait to see RuPaul at
37:25
the Met Gala.
37:28
I don't even know, what are they doing?
37:30
Maybe it'll become clear when we see it.
37:32
This whole thing, this is ridiculous.
37:34
And the thing is about this entire report,
37:36
they never once mentioned, they talk about it
37:38
as though it's some sort of a thing.
37:40
They never once mentioned the cost of admission.
37:45
I don't think you can even buy a
37:47
ticket.
37:47
You have to be invited, don't you?
37:49
You have to be invited to buy a
37:51
ticket.
37:51
Yeah, invited to buy a ticket, right.
37:54
Well, I'm asking you, what does it cost
37:57
to get a ticket?
37:58
Do you know the answer?
37:58
I'm just gonna guess.
37:59
I do know the answer.
38:00
I wouldn't be pulling the stunt if I
38:02
wasn't.
38:02
$5,000.
38:06
$75,000.
38:07
Hello?
38:08
Well, any black dandy has that under his
38:10
top hat.
38:11
Although there's a deal.
38:13
There is a deal.
38:14
I bet there is.
38:15
If you buy a table of 10, for
38:17
10, it's 350,000, so it's only 35
38:20
ahead.
38:21
Hey, we could do a meetup.
38:22
It's great.
38:24
I can't wait.
38:25
It's our whole yearly budget.
38:27
So this is an elitist crock of crap.
38:32
And they roll out the black dandies as
38:35
some sort of dance monkey dance moment.
38:38
That's what this is all about.
38:40
The Met Gala is one of the worst,
38:44
most- Racist.
38:46
It's racist.
38:47
It is a disgusting product, and it's for
38:51
elites that can afford $75,000 to show
38:55
up and say, hello, give me a break.
38:57
Yeah, to be on camera and get your
38:58
picture in vogue.
38:59
That's what it's about, yeah.
39:02
Yeah, that used to run it.
39:03
You know, PBS and NPR, both of them,
39:06
I have another report later, they do not
39:09
tell you the numbers.
39:11
They never give you the numbers.
39:12
I've never seen it.
39:13
I had to go research it to find
39:15
it.
39:15
It's up from $50,000, by the way.
39:18
Wow, back in the day, the Rock and
39:19
Roll Hall of Fame dinner at the Waldorf
39:22
was $1,000 a person.
39:25
Those days are over.
39:26
Seems like, yeah.
39:28
And there were no cameras.
39:29
It was a much better deal.
39:32
Okay, I have to go into this topic
39:34
because I have a little bit of deconstruction
39:36
to do because there's all kinds of information
39:38
that's all over the map, and obviously it's
39:40
being played up to an extreme because of
39:44
RFK Jr. becoming the Health and Human Services
39:47
Administrator.
39:49
Is that it?
39:50
Can I interrupt?
39:51
Yeah.
39:52
So he's sitting there at the, RFK Jr.
39:55
is behind Trump in some event, and then
39:56
he was sitting at the table with the
39:59
table read that was called the Board of
40:04
Directors meeting.
40:05
What was that called?
40:05
Did they have the- Cabinet meeting?
40:07
Cabinet meeting.
40:08
Or Board of Directors.
40:09
Might as well be Board of Directors meeting.
40:11
Table read is what I still think it's
40:13
called.
40:13
Table read, that's good.
40:15
So Kennedy's there, and he just never smiles,
40:19
and he looks uncomfortable.
40:21
He does not like being a Democrat in
40:24
a room full of Republicans.
40:25
I don't care what he likes to think
40:27
and he's gonna do whatever ass kicking he
40:30
does if he does any.
40:31
The whole thing is like, this is a
40:35
genetically a problem for him.
40:39
You can just see it.
40:41
Well, that's the Kennedy mantra.
40:43
I don't think JFK was the last one.
40:46
Like, we gotta get rid of that guy.
40:48
He's smiling too much.
40:49
He seemed like he smiled.
40:50
JFK had a nice smile.
40:52
No, he had a great smile.
40:54
Charming smile, yeah.
40:55
Well, since you bring up RFK Jr., my
40:57
first clip will be about RFK Jr. Guy
41:01
who really actually- Sam, hold on one
41:03
sec, because RFK is talking about measles.
41:04
We just had the first measles death in
41:06
this country in a decade.
41:07
Let's listen.
41:08
Breaking news, breaking news!
41:09
First measles death!
41:09
Wait, hold on a second.
41:10
I gotta stop again, because I have a
41:12
measles clip too.
41:14
The first death in a decade, they said
41:17
it's actually something like that?
41:19
Yes.
41:19
I thought, we've been doing this show for
41:22
over a decade, obviously, and I kept getting
41:25
the impression that there's, you know, because of
41:28
this lack of vaccinations, that measles deaths were
41:31
increasing and they were happening all over the
41:33
place, and now somebody in Texas dies, supposedly,
41:36
of measles, and this is the first one
41:38
in a decade, and all hell's gonna break
41:40
loose?
41:42
Have I been misled?
41:45
I'm kind of upset, because you're stealing my
41:48
thunder, and I was gonna get into a
41:51
vibe here.
41:52
Oh, I'm sorry.
41:53
I was gonna get into a vibe, so
41:55
just hold that.
41:56
You know, this has happened more than once.
41:59
I say every five shows, I do this
42:01
to you.
42:02
It's okay.
42:03
And I think it's the structure.
42:06
The structure of the show, or the structure
42:07
of you?
42:08
No, the structure of the way you set
42:11
up your gags.
42:12
Yeah, well, so I set up a gag,
42:14
and you're like, he's gonna do a gag,
42:15
let me out-gag him.
42:16
No, you set up the gag in a
42:17
way that it invites me to do this.
42:19
I'm sorry.
42:20
Okay, then I- It's your fault.
42:22
You're out-gagging me.
42:23
This is no good.
42:24
It's my fault.
42:25
I'm sorry.
42:25
I repent.
42:26
The guy who really actually- Sam, hold
42:28
on one sec, because RFK is talking about
42:30
measles.
42:30
We just had the first measles death in
42:32
this country in a decade.
42:33
Let's listen.
42:34
Watching it, and there are about 20 people
42:37
hospitalized, mainly for quarantine.
42:40
We're watching it.
42:41
We put out a post on it yesterday,
42:43
and we're gonna continue to follow it.
42:47
Incidentally, there have been four measles outbreaks this
42:49
year.
42:50
It's a little worse, that clip, than I
42:51
thought.
42:52
But anyway, the point was, Katie Tuerr interrupts
42:54
her guests, because we have a measles death.
42:59
RFK's talking about the measles death.
43:01
Let's go to NPR.
43:02
Health officials in Texas say more than 20
43:05
people are hospitalized amid an outbreak of measles.
43:09
Hold on a second.
43:09
First, let me just give you the definition
43:11
of outbreak.
43:12
The definition of outbreak is a violent increase
43:15
in activity or currency.
43:18
That is the first definition as Merriam-Webster.
43:21
We're talking 93 people.
43:24
This is an outbreak.
43:25
Child dead, Dr. Wait, let's get the dead
43:28
child in there.
43:28
Hold on.
43:29
That has left one child dead.
43:31
Dr. Lara Johnson, the chief medical officer at
43:34
Covenant Health in Lubbock says the risk is
43:37
low for people who have been vaccinated.
43:40
For those of us who are fully vaccinated
43:42
against measles, the risk, a lot of people
43:45
are worried about what's your risk in the
43:47
community?
43:48
Your risk is extremely, extremely low of having
43:50
any issues at all with measles.
43:52
The risk with measles is really for those
43:54
who are not immune, who have not been
43:57
vaccinated.
43:58
The CDC says 124 confirmed cases of the
44:02
measles, mostly among teens and children, have been
44:05
confirmed in the U.S. so far this
44:07
year.
44:08
This is- So if you're vaccinated, your
44:11
risk is very, very low.
44:13
Whereas my understanding of vaccines has changed a
44:17
little over the years is that you receive
44:20
the vaccine.
44:21
It has a dead virus in there.
44:23
Your immune system responds to it in a
44:25
less violent manner than getting the actual measles
44:30
virus.
44:31
And so the next time it comes around,
44:34
your immune system will recognize it and will
44:38
repel it and you're not going to get
44:40
sick.
44:40
But now they're saying your risk is low.
44:42
What is the risk?
44:44
Let's go to France 24.
44:46
For the first time in a decade, a
44:48
person has died from the measles virus in
44:50
the U.S. There are a dozen more
44:52
in hospital with several in intensive care in
44:54
the outbreak spanning Texas and New Mexico.
44:56
Outbreak.
44:57
And as you can see from today's news,
44:59
this virus can have severe and deadly consequences.
45:01
The patient was an unvaccinated school-aged child.
45:05
Over 120 cases of the highly contagious respiratory
45:08
infection- Have been identified in Texas since
45:10
late January.
45:11
In the U.S., vaccine hesitancy is on
45:13
the rise.
45:14
The Centers for Disease Control said during the
45:16
2023 to 2024 school year, exemptions from one
45:20
or more vaccines among kindergartners in the U
45:22
.S. increased to 3.3%. In Gaines County,
45:26
Texas, the epicenter of the current outbreak, the
45:28
vaccine exemption rate was nearly 18%, according to
45:32
health department data.
45:33
If you're unvaccinated, if you're around someone who
45:36
has the illness, you have a 90%
45:38
chance of becoming ill from the virus.
45:40
When we say the vaccine is 93%
45:42
effective- 93% effective.
45:45
Hold on a second.
45:46
So out of 100 people, seven will get
45:49
it anyway.
45:50
So what is this vaccine?
45:52
It's 93.
45:53
We've heard this before.
45:55
93% effective.
45:56
That means, I suppose, if we took 100
45:58
vaccinated people and put them in a room
46:00
with someone with measles, almost all of those
46:02
vaccinated people, 93%, would not contract the illness
46:06
at all.
46:07
Health officials remain concerned- Wait.
46:10
Do they, at that point, would they explain
46:12
why seven people who were vaccinated, seven people
46:16
out of 100, which is 7%, which is
46:18
a high number, if it was a death
46:20
rate of 7%, that wouldn't be good.
46:23
And so you have seven people that catch
46:25
it and they were vaccinated.
46:27
Is there an explanation as to why the
46:29
vaccinated person would have caught the disease when
46:32
they were vaccinated?
46:33
Did they explain that in that report?
46:35
Why are you making trouble?
46:38
I'm sorry.
46:38
You're asking questions that shall not be questioned.
46:41
93% would not contract the illness at
46:44
all.
46:45
Health officials remain concerned as more cases spring
46:47
up in New Mexico as well.
46:49
The new US Secretary of Health, Robert Kennedy
46:51
Jr., who himself has expressed anti-vax views
46:54
in the past- Anti-vax views!
46:55
Said such outbreaks are not unusual, but promised
46:58
his department would continue to monitor the situation.
47:01
Okay, so we're getting closer now to some
47:03
information.
47:04
Now, the whole point of what we're supposed
47:06
to understand, and the meme is, first death
47:10
from measles in 10 years.
47:12
Our chief medical correspondent, Dr. John LePouf, joins
47:14
us now.
47:14
And to be clear here, John, measles are
47:16
seriously contagious.
47:17
Seriously, yes.
47:18
They've been seriously contagious since I was six
47:21
years old.
47:22
Yes, you get the measles.
47:24
So infectious, much more than flu or COVID.
47:27
And on top of that, there's a double
47:29
whammy, which is- Double whammy!
47:30
There's a relatively long incubation period of 10
47:32
to 14 days, during which somebody can travel
47:34
all over the place, even up to four
47:36
days before getting a rash, and infect other
47:38
people.
47:39
On top of that, if an infected person
47:41
leaves a room, the virus can be floating
47:43
in the air for two hours and infect
47:45
some unsuspecting, vulnerable person who then walks in.
47:48
So given all that, John, remind us again
47:50
of how effective the vaccine has been.
47:52
Extraordinarily effective, 96- Listen, he has different
47:55
numbers.
47:56
Remember, it was 93 just a minute ago.
47:58
This is another question.
47:59
Why doesn't one of these reporters should say,
48:02
well, you know, that's funny you say this,
48:03
whatever the number's gonna be, because I've heard
48:05
this number and that number and this number
48:07
and that.
48:07
What number is it?
48:08
Can't you guys agree on a number?
48:10
No, because we're no longer members of the
48:12
World Health Organization.
48:14
We don't have the data.
48:15
You see, Trump pulled this out.
48:16
We don't have the data.
48:17
Effective the vaccine has been- Extraordinarily effective,
48:20
97% effective- At preventing infection-
48:23
What?
48:23
That last one said 97.
48:25
No, it said 93.
48:26
Oh, 93, right, with 7% getting sick.
48:29
Now it's 93.
48:30
After two doses, and take a look at
48:32
this graph.
48:33
97, yes.
48:34
The measles vaccine was introduced around- I'm
48:36
confused, 93, 97, it's not 100%.
48:40
1963, that's when it was licensed.
48:42
Before then, there were about 500,000 reported
48:45
deaths, reported cases a year, and four to
48:48
500- Wait, wait, wait.
48:51
He said reported deaths, and then he said
48:53
reported cases.
48:54
Did everyone die?
48:55
No, he corrected himself.
48:58
Oh, that was a correction?
48:59
Because it sounded to me like he didn't
49:01
correct himself.
49:02
But let's do- He said- Yes.
49:04
It sounded like he said reported deaths, reported
49:07
cases.
49:08
Yes, he corrected himself.
49:10
Did he say, I'm sorry, it's not reported
49:12
- Yes, yes, yes, but you- Play
49:14
it again.
49:14
Interrupted the clip.
49:15
Vaccine was introduced around 1963, that's when it
49:19
was licensed.
49:19
Before then, there were about 500,000 reported
49:23
deaths, reported cases a year, and four to
49:26
500 deaths.
49:28
Now look at- He corrected himself.
49:31
He changed- If you listen to the
49:34
actual flaw of what he said- Oh
49:36
gosh, John, who cares?
49:38
You know what he's, yes, he made a
49:40
mistake.
49:41
Here's the reason I'm making a point of
49:43
this, because this just slips into the mentality
49:46
of the listener, this neurolinguistic programming.
49:50
Yes.
49:51
He said 500,000 deaths.
49:54
Yes.
49:54
And then he said 500,000 cases.
49:56
Yes.
49:57
He didn't go, 500,000 deaths, I'm sorry,
49:59
I don't mean 500,000 deaths, I mean
50:02
500,000 cases.
50:03
I was mistaken.
50:04
He didn't say any of that.
50:06
No.
50:07
So he slipped into the public consciousness, 500
50:10
,000 deaths.
50:12
I don't think it was intentional.
50:15
Okay.
50:16
I don't think it was intentional.
50:17
It's not, it's kind of not the point.
50:19
The point is that it was a very
50:23
low percentage of people dying.
50:27
If you have 500,000 and 500 die,
50:31
that's like, oh, 0.1%?
50:36
I think it's, yeah, it could be.
50:38
The measles vaccine was introduced around 1963.
50:42
That's when it was licensed.
50:43
Before then, there were about 500,000 reported
50:46
deaths, reported cases a year, and four to
50:49
500 deaths.
50:51
Now look at that precipitous drop off.
50:54
You don't see something like that.
50:55
And so that's remarkable.
50:56
Now I do understand, there are people who
50:58
say, and they've said to me, look, I
51:00
want to get the vaccine, and I don't
51:02
want to give it to my family.
51:03
I'm willing to die for them.
51:04
That's the job.
51:05
For me.
51:05
But actually, when you say that, when you're
51:07
considering whether to get the vaccine, think about
51:09
the fact that there are 17 million immunocompromised
51:12
adults and two million immunocompromised children who are
51:15
relying on you being immunized and getting that
51:18
herd immunity to not get infected themselves.
51:20
Okay, so here he's giving it away.
51:24
The child who died, who we know nothing
51:26
about, probably was immunocompromised.
51:30
And you can die from the flu.
51:31
You can die from certainly any respiratory disease.
51:36
And there's a lot of factors that brought
51:39
down measles.
51:40
I'm not so sure it was just the
51:41
vaccine.
51:42
It's irrelevant.
51:43
It's an outbreak.
51:44
Lester, tonight the FDA took the unusual step
51:47
of reminding people that the measles vaccine is
51:52
safe.
51:52
And it's got 50 years of science behind
51:55
it.
51:55
But the FDA is very concerned that the
51:58
measles have once again emerged as a public
52:00
health threat.
52:01
Yeah, it's scary.
52:01
It's not getting any better.
52:02
Yes.
52:03
Scary!
52:03
And that was 2019, by the way, when
52:05
we had over 600 cases of outbreak of
52:09
measles.
52:10
This is 124.
52:13
And then there's this clip.
52:14
Officials in Washington State confirming one woman died
52:17
during an outbreak of measles earlier this year.
52:19
It's the 11th case of measles in Washington
52:22
State this year, but the first measles death
52:24
in the U.S. since 2003.
52:27
It's doubly tragic in that this was a
52:29
preventable death.
52:31
That is 2016.
52:33
So it's an outright lie that no one
52:36
has died from measles in the last 10
52:38
years.
52:38
Because this is just, I just went on
52:40
YouTube and just pulled up a clip.
52:42
It's a lie.
52:43
Surprise.
52:44
It's a lie.
52:44
Everything's, this entire thing is a lie.
52:47
So then.
52:48
But they can't get, what bothers me, here's
52:50
the problem I have.
52:51
At least with the safe and effective, and
52:53
that phrase we had earlier, chaos and confusion,
52:57
there was some coordination.
52:58
There's the lack of coordination with the percentage
53:02
of how effective it is and how many
53:04
people died and who died and when they
53:06
died and outbreak and all the rest of
53:10
it.
53:10
The lack of coordination on the part of
53:12
the propaganders, propagandizers, is kind of distressing because
53:18
it's as though they don't even need to
53:21
do that.
53:22
They're just going to frighten the public.
53:23
I think I can explain.
53:25
The reason why is it used to be
53:26
coordinated from the CDC direct to the newsrooms.
53:30
Now it's coordinated by the marketing department of
53:33
Big Pharma.
53:34
They're just saying, do more reports on measles
53:37
and not really giving them the coordinated message.
53:40
They're just buying airtime.
53:42
You know, because they want to promote vaccines.
53:43
Exactly.
53:44
There is nothing more tragic than the death
53:46
of a child, especially so if the death
53:49
was preventable.
53:50
Preventable, we don't know that.
53:52
With the death of a child in Texas
53:54
from measles, the first measles death in this
53:56
country in nearly 10 years.
53:59
Measles deaths, even measles cases are rare because
54:02
the disease is preventable with a vaccine that
54:05
has been available for more than 60 years.
54:07
There is an outbreak of measles in Texas
54:09
among people who were not vaccinated.
54:11
That includes the child who died in Lubbock.
54:14
So I'm looking at the CDC chart, rate
54:19
of measles cases and deaths in the United
54:21
States, 1919 to 2024.
54:26
So in 1919, reported measles cases 175.
54:34
I'll go to 1937, reported measles 647.
54:41
Now the death rate was a little bit
54:42
higher.
54:43
It was 2.5, but in, so this
54:46
measles vaccine has been available since 1963.
54:50
They still had 110 in 1990.
54:56
There was actually a spike in 2019.
54:58
That's where that Lester Holt report came from,
55:00
but the measles death rate is still 0
55:03
.1. 0.1%, what it's always been.
55:09
And so there was an uptick in 2024.
55:11
It hasn't gone to zero, and nor have
55:14
the deaths gone to zero according to the
55:17
CDC data for whatever truth that is.
55:21
So this is just a total hoax story.
55:26
And to make it even funnier, the CBS
55:30
guy sits down with this expert outside a
55:38
two picnic tables, 20 feet apart wearing a
55:43
mask.
55:44
We're now seeing a very serious consequence of
55:46
what happens when we have measles in our
55:49
community.
55:49
Hold on, here we go.
55:50
The first measles death in the US in
55:52
nearly a decade happened here at Covenant Children's
55:55
Hospital in Lubbock, Texas.
55:56
The child was school aged and did not
55:59
reside in Lubbock County.
56:01
There are now more than 120 measles cases
56:04
in Texas.
56:06
About 20 children have been hospitalized, some in
56:09
the ICU, none were vaccinated.
56:12
Now health officials are racing to stop the
56:14
spread.
56:15
We've talked to parents of little ones under
56:17
one year old who can't get the measles
56:20
vaccine.
56:21
What do you tell those worried parents who
56:24
feel their kids are susceptible and they don't
56:25
even wanna take them out?
56:27
It's important to communicate with your physician for
56:31
infants, especially six to 12 months.
56:34
So that population is a little bit different
56:36
only because we can, in certain contexts, give
56:39
the measles vaccine early.
56:41
Before the MMR vaccine was introduced in 1963,
56:45
400 to 500 people died every year.
56:49
The virus is extremely contagious for those who
56:52
don't have immunity.
56:53
I'm sorry that wasn't the mask clip, but
56:54
here you hear the messaging, which is, hey,
56:57
we can give it to your six month
56:58
old.
56:59
Come on, people, there's an outbreak.
57:01
On Saturday morning, she woke up with a
57:03
rash.
57:04
This is the mask clip.
57:05
Bow, bow, bow.
57:06
Knowing the measles outbreak was near her home
57:08
in Odessa and that her daughter was too
57:10
young to be vaccinated, Kaitlin Norris took eight
57:13
-month-old Poppy to the ER when she
57:15
developed a fever and rash.
57:17
She also had the coughing, the runny nose,
57:19
and the rash.
57:20
So she had a very good amount of
57:22
all of the symptoms.
57:24
You're so sicky and you don't even know
57:26
it.
57:26
Despite her symptoms.
57:28
Excellent, excellent nap pop, CBS.
57:31
You know you're sick and you don't even,
57:33
it's beautiful.
57:33
You're so sicky and you don't even know
57:35
it.
57:35
Awesome.
57:36
Despite her symptoms, Poppy's test results came back
57:38
negative for measles this morning, but her mother
57:41
isn't letting her guard down yet.
57:43
She said the kid didn't have measles.
57:45
She was spun up and frightened by you
57:47
morons.
57:48
When you start hearing about this in your
57:50
backyard, what's going through your mind?
57:52
It's terrifying.
57:53
I've heard a lot of things about how
57:55
children have seizures because of the high temperatures
57:58
of their fevers and brain damage and they
58:00
die and it's terrifying.
58:03
It's terrifying.
58:04
Oh my gosh.
58:05
Just remember everybody, no agenda is your actual
58:08
vaccine against this nonsense.
58:11
Because in 1963, they came out with the
58:14
vaccine and in 1980, we were laughing at
58:16
the Brady Bunch.
58:17
You all got it, including Alice.
58:20
And they went, ooh, I don't want a
58:23
shot.
58:24
I don't want a shot.
58:25
Dude, who wants a shot?
58:26
We get ice cream and comic books.
58:29
I just want to play, I have one
58:31
clip on this.
58:31
This is from NPR or PBS, one of
58:34
the two, but this is the Texas measles
58:36
clip.
58:37
And the reason I want to play this
58:38
is because the clip you just played, not
58:41
the one just before the one you just
58:42
played, which they said all, the guy says,
58:46
all of the people have gotten measles, all,
58:49
the guy says, all of them were unvaccinated.
58:52
Yeah, do we know that for sure?
58:54
We don't know anything, but play this version.
58:57
Other headlines in Texas, where officials announced the
59:00
first death from a recent measles outbreak.
59:03
They say the victim was an unvaccinated school
59:06
age child who was hospitalized in West Texas
59:08
last week.
59:09
There are at least 124 confirmed cases of
59:13
the highly contagious respiratory illness across nine Texas
59:16
counties.
59:17
They've been mostly reported among children, many of
59:20
them unvaccinated.
59:21
Many of them, many of them, there you
59:24
go.
59:25
Yeah, well, it's going to be at least
59:26
7%, maybe three.
59:28
We don't know.
59:29
I know it's a little disturbing.
59:30
Because we don't know anything.
59:32
So I'll just add on top of this,
59:34
because we have to have more, more fear.
59:37
And this is, this is the opposite of
59:40
the Noah Jenner show.
59:41
This is a public service to freak you
59:43
out, to freak out family members of mine
59:46
when they hear stuff like this.
59:48
Bird flu continues to cause concern, not just
59:50
because it's leading to skyrocketing egg prices.
59:53
Scientists are watching the virus closely and some
59:56
believe it could become the next major human
59:58
pandemic.
59:59
So they keep doing this and they're going
1:00:02
to bring in a perfect guy now.
1:00:04
I spoke to biologist David Merriam at MSU
1:00:06
Denver, who doesn't necessarily agree, but he says
1:00:09
it will become a bigger concern if and
1:00:11
when we start to see human to human
1:00:13
spread.
1:00:14
So he, so she says he doesn't necessarily
1:00:16
agree, but don't listen to what I just
1:00:18
said.
1:00:18
It said there, he's really concerned.
1:00:20
He's concerned.
1:00:20
He's worried there's concern.
1:00:22
Gee, it could, it could mutate.
1:00:24
Anything could happen.
1:00:24
So far, we really haven't seen confirmed cases
1:00:26
of that.
1:00:27
But Merriam says H5N1 can trade genetic material
1:00:32
with the H1N1 virus in the body, which
1:00:35
would make it a lot more transmissible.
1:00:37
So somebody who gets, you'd like H1N1, which
1:00:40
is your standard flu that's coming around right
1:00:42
now.
1:00:42
Somebody gets that and then they're also a
1:00:45
dairy worker or a chicken worker working with
1:00:48
H5N1.
1:00:49
It's a chicken, it's like a sex worker
1:00:50
for animals, a chicken worker.
1:00:52
You'd like H1N1, which is your standard flu
1:00:55
that's coming around right now.
1:00:57
Somebody gets that and then they're also a
1:00:59
dairy worker or a chicken worker working with
1:01:02
H5N1.
1:01:03
And now you have both of them in
1:01:04
the same person.
1:01:05
And that's where you start seeing a selective
1:01:08
pressure.
1:01:09
And that selective pressure is the sort of
1:01:12
thing that could lead to it being more
1:01:15
transmissible.
1:01:16
Oh, please, Doug.
1:01:18
People.
1:01:18
Yeah, that's why he says it's really important
1:01:20
for people to get vaccinated against H1N1.
1:01:23
Again, we're talking your standard flu shot.
1:01:25
There is a bird flu vaccine for humans.
1:01:28
In fact, Canada announced last week it's purchased
1:01:31
500,000 doses of the H5N1 vaccine with
1:01:34
the intention of vaccinating high-risk populations like
1:01:37
those who work closely with birds or cattle.
1:01:40
They're testing the bird flu vaccine on Canadians.
1:01:44
Don't take it to Canada.
1:01:46
That's what she said.
1:01:47
Canada bought 500,000 vaccines of the human
1:01:50
bird flu vaccine.
1:01:52
Don't take it, Canada.
1:01:54
And so there's multiple angles to this.
1:01:59
So besides the big pharma, of course, which
1:02:01
is the ultimate goal, there's an anti-Trump
1:02:04
thing.
1:02:05
Egg prices are rising.
1:02:06
Trump said they will go down.
1:02:08
Egg prices are rising.
1:02:09
And there's this very reminiscent of COVID of
1:02:16
shutting down parks.
1:02:18
H5N1, avian influenza or bird flu.
1:02:21
It's been detected again in New Jersey, evidenced
1:02:24
by the yellow caution tape, blocking off parts
1:02:27
of Pete Sensei Park in Allentown Borough, Monmouth
1:02:29
County.
1:02:30
They actually have a helicopter shot of the
1:02:32
park with it taped off with yellow police
1:02:35
tape.
1:02:36
This is terrorism.
1:02:37
In the same town, Heritage Park has blockades
1:02:40
and caution tape.
1:02:41
It's where New Jersey Department of Environmental Protection
1:02:44
has found dead geese.
1:02:46
Those animals testing positive for bird flu.
1:02:49
One of them tested positive for H5N1.
1:02:55
The Burlington County Health Department is monitoring after
1:02:57
deceased wild Canada goose found in Pemberton tested
1:03:01
positive last week.
1:03:02
While there hasn't been any evidence of human
1:03:05
spread locally.
1:03:06
The cases that we have seen across the
1:03:08
country are primarily in commercial dairy and poultry
1:03:12
workers.
1:03:14
Shoppers are feeling an impact of the bird
1:03:16
flu in egg prices.
1:03:18
It's my husband and I, we spend a
1:03:20
lot of time trying to compare prices, whereas
1:03:22
find something suitable for home and not spending
1:03:25
too much.
1:03:26
Our data journalism team found the price of
1:03:28
eggs has jumped significantly in six weeks time.
1:03:31
At the start of 2025, a carton of
1:03:33
large eggs was just under $6.
1:03:36
Now the same dozen eggs will run you
1:03:38
839.
1:03:40
In response, restaurants like Waffle House and Denny's
1:03:43
have implemented egg surcharges.
1:03:46
And supermarkets like Costco and Trader Joe's have
1:03:49
imposed limits on the number of cartons you
1:03:52
can buy.
1:03:52
So I talked to a rancher out here
1:03:55
and he says, he doesn't have chickens, but
1:03:58
he's a rancher.
1:03:58
He says, this makes no sense.
1:04:01
He says, it makes no sense to vaccinate
1:04:03
these chickens.
1:04:04
The natural course, which has happened throughout history
1:04:08
is bird flu comes in, chickens get sick,
1:04:13
some will survive.
1:04:14
The ones that survive, you wanna keep those
1:04:16
going, keep that lineage going.
1:04:18
Killing the whole flock is just dumb.
1:04:21
That's what a lot of people say.
1:04:23
Well, there you go.
1:04:24
It just encourages more bird flu.
1:04:28
Yeah, the chickens will self-breed bird flu
1:04:31
out of the system.
1:04:33
But whatever you do, be afraid.
1:04:36
We have a viewer question today.
1:04:37
It came from Facebook.
1:04:38
Diane wants to know, with the increase in
1:04:41
bird flu cases, is it safe to fill
1:04:43
the bird feeders in my yard?
1:04:45
Such a good question, right?
1:04:46
Because a lot of us have them out
1:04:47
in our yards now.
1:04:49
The wildlife experts say that it's okay to
1:04:51
maintain a bird feeder in your property or
1:04:53
on your property, as long as you don't
1:04:55
live near a farm or have domestic fowl
1:04:58
in your yards, things like chickens and ducks.
1:05:01
Of course, you wanna wash your hands after
1:05:02
you touch your feeder and you wanna clean
1:05:04
the feeder itself pretty frequently.
1:05:06
And if you see any dead or sick
1:05:07
birds, you wanna call the Mass Department of
1:05:10
Agricultural Resources.
1:05:11
Oh yeah, call your local authorities if you
1:05:15
see a dead bird.
1:05:16
Don't touch the dead birds.
1:05:18
It's not a good idea.
1:05:19
Yeah, if you're in Africa, you'd eat the
1:05:21
thing.
1:05:22
All right, and I have a couple of
1:05:24
NPR pieces on this because they title this,
1:05:27
The Battle Against Bird Flu.
1:05:29
Cut one.
1:05:30
Bird flu has been spreading in the United
1:05:32
States.
1:05:33
Yeah, the first person to die from bird
1:05:35
flu was reported last month.
1:05:36
And two people were recently hospitalized in Wyoming
1:05:39
and Ohio.
1:05:41
The CDC still says the risk to humans
1:05:44
is low, but inside the poultry industry, there's
1:05:47
a fight brewing over how to take the
1:05:49
battle against bird flu to the next level.
1:05:52
Kate Wells of Michigan Public and KFF Health
1:05:54
News is reporting on all this.
1:05:56
Kate, good morning.
1:05:57
Good morning.
1:05:58
Okay, so what are you hearing from egg
1:05:59
farmers here?
1:06:01
Yeah, they say that they are just flat
1:06:02
out losing this battle against bird flu at
1:06:05
this point.
1:06:06
They are desperate for new tools at this
1:06:09
point.
1:06:09
They see what they have been doing to
1:06:11
try to contain the outbreak just is not
1:06:13
working.
1:06:14
I talked with Greg Herbrook.
1:06:15
He's the CEO of Herbrook's Poultry Ranch.
1:06:17
It's one of the largest egg producers in
1:06:19
the US.
1:06:20
And in April, three of his sites got
1:06:22
hit with bird flu, one right after the
1:06:23
other, and he ended up having to kill
1:06:25
six and a half million chickens.
1:06:27
Wow.
1:06:28
The mental toll on our team of dealing
1:06:31
with that many dead chickens is just, I
1:06:34
mean, you can't imagine.
1:06:35
And they only have to kill them because
1:06:37
the health agencies require it.
1:06:40
I don't think that's the choice they would
1:06:42
want to make.
1:06:44
It's something, who is in charge of this
1:06:46
now?
1:06:47
Who's in charge?
1:06:47
Who is the new secretary of agriculture?
1:06:50
Well, that question has to be, well, the
1:06:52
secretary, I don't know, but all those questions
1:06:55
that you just asked me right there should
1:06:58
have been in these reports, right?
1:06:59
Let's check out Cut2.
1:07:01
So he used the USDA tried and true
1:07:04
playbook here.
1:07:05
It's the stamping out method.
1:07:07
Right after detection, like within 24 to 48
1:07:09
hours, the whole flock has to be culled.
1:07:12
There's a bunch of cleaning and sanitizing, and
1:07:15
this is to prevent the birds from dying
1:07:17
really painful, grisly deaths, but it's also to
1:07:20
try to keep the virus- Grisly?
1:07:22
We're trying to be humane to the chickens
1:07:23
because killing them to eat is fine.
1:07:25
Yeah, killing them this way- Is better.
1:07:28
Is better than killing- Give me a
1:07:29
break.
1:07:30
But it's not grisly, or is it?
1:07:33
No.
1:07:33
We don't know.
1:07:33
Yeah, I don't know, but we're doing it
1:07:36
to think of the chickens.
1:07:37
Birds from dying really painful, grisly deaths, but
1:07:39
it's also to try to keep the virus
1:07:41
from spreading even further.
1:07:43
And this works, like in the 2014 and
1:07:45
2015 outbreak, ever since then, farmers have put
1:07:48
in tens of millions of dollars in biosecurity,
1:07:51
like employees showering in and out, lasers that
1:07:54
can stop potentially infected wild birds from landing,
1:07:58
but none of it is working this time.
1:07:59
Of course not, because it's dumb.
1:08:02
Flu viruses are constantly evolving, right?
1:08:04
And this particular strain of the virus has
1:08:07
gotten so good at infecting new species, not
1:08:10
just wild birds that migrate, but also more
1:08:12
than 40 species of mammals.
1:08:15
You've heard about dairy cows, but also dolphins,
1:08:18
rats, skunks- And by this point, bird
1:08:20
flu is just too- Bird flu is
1:08:23
now in dolphins.
1:08:24
I have not heard this.
1:08:25
By the way, you've got to dig up,
1:08:26
you've got to start playing one of our
1:08:29
jingle clips, the war on chickens.
1:08:32
Yes, rats.
1:08:32
I think this is all part of it.
1:08:34
Yes.
1:08:34
Skunks.
1:08:35
And by this point, bird flu is just
1:08:37
too embedded in our environment for us to
1:08:39
just stamp it out.
1:08:41
I also talked with David Swain.
1:08:42
He is a former U.S.- Who
1:08:44
is this being bad?
1:08:45
He's one of the leading avian influenza experts.
1:08:46
And he says, look, it's time for the
1:08:48
U.S. to try vaccinating poultry for bird
1:08:52
flu.
1:08:52
He says this is good as a tool,
1:08:54
not just to reduce the virus in animals.
1:08:57
Here's Swain.
1:08:58
But also a tool that reduces chances for
1:09:02
human infection.
1:09:04
But egg producers, they will need the green
1:09:06
light from the federal government before they can
1:09:09
try this.
1:09:16
The war on chicken.
1:09:19
As a final 30-second here, what about
1:09:22
poultry farmers that raise chicken for meat?
1:09:24
For meat.
1:09:24
So they are very against this vaccination plan
1:09:27
- No kidding.
1:09:27
They could lose billions of dollars a year
1:09:30
in trade deals if the U.S. does
1:09:32
start vaccinating poultry.
1:09:34
And that's because a lot of countries, they
1:09:35
don't wanna buy meat from a country that
1:09:37
is vaccinating any chickens.
1:09:39
Those countries are worried that the vaccine can
1:09:41
mask symptoms in birds and that the virus
1:09:44
could maybe get across their borders in that
1:09:46
meat undetected.
1:09:47
But the pressure on the U.S. government
1:09:49
to do something new is clearly growing.
1:09:52
Brooke Rollins is our 33rd Secretary of Agriculture.
1:09:59
Hmm, okay.
1:10:02
She didn't mention in this report, I don't
1:10:03
understand this.
1:10:04
We hear enough of this stuff so we
1:10:06
can get kind of a broad-based look
1:10:08
at things in terms of the reporting.
1:10:11
And what wasn't mentioned is that the chickens
1:10:14
who are the meat chickens, there's a different
1:10:16
type of farming.
1:10:18
The whole thing is different.
1:10:19
They're not the same.
1:10:20
No.
1:10:21
And they haven't had bird flu outbreaks in
1:10:24
the meat chicken.
1:10:25
That's why chicken meat, you can go buy
1:10:27
legs and thighs and breasts and the price
1:10:30
has not changed.
1:10:31
It may have gone down a few cents.
1:10:33
Hmm, hmm.
1:10:34
This has been reported over and over, but
1:10:36
I guess it's been forgotten already.
1:10:40
I have a lot of clips with questions
1:10:43
for you actually.
1:10:46
So we need to talk about oil because
1:10:49
there's a massive pivot taking place where people
1:10:53
are talking about, now we gotta get back
1:10:55
and it's not gonna work.
1:10:58
This green revolution is not happening.
1:11:01
We haven't done it fast enough.
1:11:03
So we're gonna have to go back and
1:11:04
start producing more oil.
1:11:06
We couldn't go any faster.
1:11:07
So this is the report about BP and
1:11:11
others.
1:11:12
BP's announcement sort of flies in the face
1:11:14
of the direction they were heading in, but
1:11:16
it seems that they're not alone.
1:11:18
That's quite right.
1:11:19
So when you look at BP's trajectory back
1:11:21
in 2020, they announced their net zero objectives,
1:11:26
how they plan to get to net zero
1:11:27
by 2050.
1:11:28
And it was a plan to reduce oil
1:11:30
and gas production by 40% by 2030.
1:11:34
And the announcement was as well, no new
1:11:36
oil and gas exploration in any new currently
1:11:40
uninvested in countries.
1:11:44
However, since then the tides clearly turned.
1:11:48
Profits took a hit in 2024, by which
1:11:50
I don't mean it stopped being profitable, profits
1:11:52
were just smaller, dividends were smaller.
1:11:54
Oh, oh, oh, curse those rich people.
1:11:57
And now they're calling a reset.
1:12:00
The new CEO has said, this is a
1:12:02
reset BP with an unwavering focus on growing
1:12:06
long-term shareholder value.
1:12:08
How does he plan to get there?
1:12:09
Well, the pivot is boosting fossil fuel investment
1:12:13
to $10 billion per year, cutting what they
1:12:17
call the transition business.
1:12:18
So that's all things, renewable EV batteries, also
1:12:21
hydrogen, cutting that to just 1.5 to
1:12:25
2 billion a year.
1:12:26
And when you read the announcement, you look
1:12:28
at the text of it, the words they're
1:12:29
using for investment in these transition industries are
1:12:33
things like disciplined, selective, focused and capital light.
1:12:38
They're going to keep these investments capital light,
1:12:40
which you might say is code for the
1:12:42
absolute bare minimum.
1:12:44
Yes, code bond genome.
1:12:45
Okay, the question is coming, but first we
1:12:47
have to hear that not just BP, but
1:12:49
many other large multinationals are just giving up
1:12:53
on it.
1:12:54
Now, they're not alone.
1:12:54
As you say, just last year, Shell announced
1:12:58
that they were reducing their green ambitions.
1:13:02
They had planned a 45% cut in
1:13:06
their carbon intensity by 2035.
1:13:08
The new CEO said that any such plans
1:13:10
were perilous and scrapped them.
1:13:13
More recently, you've got Equinor, the Norwegian oil
1:13:17
company who used to be called State Oil,
1:13:19
who rebranded in 2018, no doubt to part
1:13:23
with that extremely fossil fuel heavy image that
1:13:26
they had.
1:13:27
They recently announced that they will be halving
1:13:29
renewables investment in the next two years and
1:13:32
upping oil and gas production.
1:13:35
The reason given, they don't see the necessary
1:13:38
profitability in these energies for the future.
1:13:41
So this is a whole industry.
1:13:44
Unashamedly, you might say shamelessly putting profitability over
1:13:47
all else, including accompanying the green transition.
1:13:50
Yeah, good luck with your messaging.
1:13:52
Oh, they're shamelessly putting profits up against the
1:13:56
survival of human nature.
1:13:58
So President Trump has said- The human
1:14:00
species, not human nature.
1:14:01
Yeah, human species.
1:14:02
So President Trump has said, drill, baby, drill.
1:14:05
And CNN brings on some expert and talks
1:14:10
about the types of crude oil that we
1:14:12
have in the United States and whether we
1:14:15
can actually, if we actually have the right
1:14:18
kind of oil to make our country run.
1:14:23
And I know that you happen to be
1:14:25
an absolute expert in this particular area.
1:14:28
No, you're an expert.
1:14:29
You're an expert, just- I am.
1:14:30
Okay, and I'm going to- And I
1:14:32
play one on a podcast.
1:14:33
Yeah, so a podspert, if you will.
1:14:37
So I'm going to treat you as such.
1:14:38
Ladies and gentlemen, you have oil expert John
1:14:41
C.
1:14:42
Dvorak with us today.
1:14:43
John, I want you to listen to this
1:14:44
clip and then I want your expert insight
1:14:46
into what they're saying.
1:14:47
New CNN reporting this morning shows a problem
1:14:50
with President Trump- Why are you yelling?
1:14:53
Trump's vision of energy independence.
1:14:55
According to the president, unleashing U.S. drilling
1:14:56
would reduce gas prices, reduce America's cost of
1:14:59
living, and increase the nation's energy independence.
1:15:02
CNN Chief Climate Correspondent Bill Weir is here.
1:15:04
And the issue, as you report, is drilling
1:15:07
for what exactly?
1:15:09
Yeah, have you noticed the president leaves facts
1:15:12
out sometimes- Oh no!
1:15:13
When he makes these grand statements about how
1:15:14
we can just get off of all the
1:15:15
foreign oil that comes from Canada, Mexico, Saudi
1:15:18
Arabia, these places?
1:15:20
One huge problem, not all oil is created
1:15:23
equally.
1:15:23
Let's talk about the basics.
1:15:25
It's everything from sweet, light crude, which is
1:15:28
like the champagne of oil, down to heavy
1:15:31
sour, which is more like wet coffee grounds,
1:15:33
right?
1:15:34
This stuff is light and easier to process,
1:15:37
and the U.S. pumps a lot of
1:15:38
it.
1:15:39
We use it to export, and it goes
1:15:40
into kerosene and gasoline.
1:15:42
The problem is the country was built on
1:15:45
sticky coffee grounds over the years, and so
1:15:47
our U.S. refineries are set up to
1:15:50
process the heavy, dense stuff, the Albertus tar
1:15:53
sands.
1:15:54
The clue's in the name.
1:15:55
It looks like sandy tar, and it is
1:15:57
processed this way.
1:15:58
Meanwhile, along the Gulf of Mexico, a lot
1:16:01
of these refineries can deal with more of
1:16:03
the lighter champagne stuff, and here's the big
1:16:06
problem, John.
1:16:07
We produce a lot more champagne than coffee
1:16:11
grounds, exporting about 13 million barrels a day
1:16:14
of the light, sweet stuff, while importing about
1:16:16
half that much from these other countries, so
1:16:19
again, the idea that we could shut off
1:16:21
imports from Canada and not feel the ramifications,
1:16:26
it would completely upend the refinery system and
1:16:29
would drive gas prices through the ceiling.
1:16:30
It's just not what we're built for.
1:16:33
Exactly, exactly.
1:16:35
The infrastructure's not here.
1:16:36
All right, I'm gonna bring in our resident
1:16:37
expert now, John C.
1:16:39
Dvorak.
1:16:39
He is a podcaster and a columnist, and
1:16:42
John, we'd like to know, can we actually
1:16:45
- That is the biggest- Wait, can
1:16:46
we, I'm doing your intro.
1:16:48
Oh, I'm sorry.
1:16:49
Podcaster and columnist, John C.
1:16:50
Dvorak, and John, what you just heard there,
1:16:53
can you give us some insight into whether
1:16:56
it is actually the champagne of oil that
1:16:58
we can not refine or the coffee ground
1:17:01
of oil that we can refine that will
1:17:03
keep this country moving?
1:17:04
We go to John.
1:17:05
All right.
1:17:07
Okay, so here's, refineries can handle pretty much,
1:17:12
except for refineries that are specialized in the
1:17:14
champagne style of what he's talking about, super
1:17:17
sweet oil, which is like Bolivian, for example.
1:17:23
Those guys, they set up shop to do
1:17:26
that kind of oil because it's harder to
1:17:28
take this crappy sour, which means it's full
1:17:31
of sulfur, is what that refers to, and
1:17:34
it stinks.
1:17:36
And you have to run it through a
1:17:37
more elaborate system to get the sulfur out
1:17:41
and to crack it and to refine it
1:17:43
in the cracking processes to break it down.
1:17:46
The sweet stuff, all refineries can take that
1:17:50
stuff because it's easy to process.
1:17:51
You run it right through.
1:17:53
What?
1:17:53
And you bypass some of the cracking gear
1:17:55
if you have to.
1:17:56
What?
1:17:56
It doesn't make any difference.
1:17:57
It's the best stuff.
1:17:59
That guy's full of crap.
1:18:00
All the refineries, I don't know of a
1:18:02
refinery that wouldn't prefer nothing but sweet because
1:18:06
it's a pain in the ass to break
1:18:08
down the other stuff.
1:18:09
So, wait, CNN was lying?
1:18:12
No, they were ignorant.
1:18:16
Let's go to another clip from CNN.
1:18:19
This is about the oil companies who, of
1:18:22
course, were all against CapEx and new investments
1:18:25
in drilling because Wall Street wanted to have
1:18:28
revenue and not investment.
1:18:30
That's according to the oil baron.
1:18:32
I will have to talk to him about
1:18:34
this.
1:18:34
Ken, how do the oil companies feel about
1:18:36
these calls to drill, drill, drill more?
1:18:38
Do they feel like they can?
1:18:40
Well, it all comes down to economics.
1:18:41
The price of a barrel of oil, the
1:18:43
projections, you know, it takes 10 years sometimes
1:18:46
to get a well operating.
1:18:48
And so they're looking over at China where
1:18:50
almost half of the new cars sold are
1:18:52
electric.
1:18:53
They're looking at oil demands around the world,
1:18:54
how they might sink.
1:18:56
What?
1:18:56
Petrochemicals, plastics.
1:18:57
What?
1:18:58
What'd you say?
1:18:59
Half of the new cars sold are electric?
1:19:01
That's not even close.
1:19:02
Maybe 10%, I think.
1:19:04
It's definitely not half.
1:19:05
This is bogative.
1:19:07
Cars sold are, wait, let me get back
1:19:08
here.
1:19:09
Electric.
1:19:10
China, where almost half of the new.
1:19:11
Oh, China.
1:19:12
He said in China.
1:19:13
In China.
1:19:13
Oh, in China, yeah.
1:19:14
It's true in China.
1:19:15
They're looking over at China where almost half
1:19:17
of the new cars sold are electric.
1:19:19
They're looking at oil demands around the world,
1:19:21
how they might sink.
1:19:23
Petrochemicals, plastics.
1:19:23
Plastics.
1:19:24
All of those calculations are going into how
1:19:26
they do this.
1:19:27
So there's.
1:19:27
But what are the plastics made of?
1:19:28
Champagne or coffee grounds?
1:19:30
You can make it out of anything.
1:19:32
Okay.
1:19:32
It's not a huge demand.
1:19:34
There's not sort of, you know, he was
1:19:35
prom, these oil CEOs were promised complete carte
1:19:39
blanche deregulation, but they're not exactly chomping at
1:19:43
the bit to open new wells.
1:19:44
And we're talking about wells, we're not talking
1:19:46
about shale, or are we talking about both?
1:19:48
Shale oil, big fracking boom has led to
1:19:51
a massive spike in natural gas, which is
1:19:53
a different kind of fuel, of course, and
1:19:54
a lot more of the sweet, light champagne
1:19:56
that comes out of those fracking wells.
1:19:58
Right.
1:19:58
You've made me thirsty.
1:19:59
Bill Weir, thank you very much.
1:20:02
But you'll have to say that every barrel
1:20:04
of this stuff that gets pumped and burns,
1:20:06
most is closer to a climate crisis.
1:20:08
And the alternatives are cheaper than the petrochemicals.
1:20:11
So something to keep in mind.
1:20:12
So there's that too.
1:20:14
In addition to everything else.
1:20:15
No, no, no, no, no, no.
1:20:18
All right.
1:20:19
So they're full of crap.
1:20:22
Full of crap.
1:20:23
I don't know what the point of that
1:20:25
report was.
1:20:26
Just to slam Trump.
1:20:29
Yeah.
1:20:29
Well, no.
1:20:30
And the thing is that they never bring
1:20:32
up, and I don't know why this is,
1:20:34
because I bring it up, and it doesn't
1:20:36
benefit the Republicans, that's for sure, is that
1:20:39
during the Biden administration, we've drilled more and
1:20:41
pumped more than ever before, the whole time.
1:20:44
It was a lie.
1:20:45
Oh, we're going to move away from fossil
1:20:47
fuels.
1:20:47
Just the opposite happened.
1:20:49
But no one wants to bring that up
1:20:51
because they don't want to bring up the
1:20:52
hypocrisy of it all.
1:20:53
They don't want to bring up the price,
1:20:55
the fact that I think Exxon doubled, the
1:20:57
stock price doubled.
1:20:58
Exxon is doing nothing but kicking ass because
1:21:00
they never bought into a lot of the
1:21:02
green stuff.
1:21:03
And they just pumping oil out of the
1:21:05
ground like there's no tomorrow.
1:21:07
And the stock went through the roof during
1:21:09
the Biden administration.
1:21:10
But nobody even brings any of that up.
1:21:12
It's baffling to me.
1:21:15
What?
1:21:16
Gambling?
1:21:18
Please.
1:21:19
I am baffled.
1:21:21
I'm totally baffled.
1:21:22
Well, the baffling move is the unprecedented move
1:21:28
that this White House has made by saying
1:21:34
they're going to select who can be in
1:21:36
the press room, who can be in the
1:21:38
Oval Office.
1:21:39
Because as you know, if you can't be
1:21:42
in there, you can't report to the American
1:21:44
people.
1:21:45
Although I find that an interesting argument because
1:21:48
as far as I can tell, it's streamed
1:21:50
live on every platform known to man whenever
1:21:53
there's a press conference and whenever the president
1:21:56
is sitting in his Oval Office.
1:21:59
But this is very controversial and it's going
1:22:02
to ruin the geek party known as the
1:22:05
White House Correspondents Dinner because it seems they're
1:22:07
just going to have to fall apart.
1:22:08
A select group of DC-based journalists should
1:22:11
no longer have a monopoly over the privilege
1:22:13
of press access at the White House.
1:22:15
All journalists, outlets, and voices deserve a seat
1:22:18
at this highly coveted table.
1:22:21
So by deciding which outlets make up the
1:22:23
limited press pool on a day-to-day
1:22:24
basis, the White House will be restoring power
1:22:27
back to the American people who President Trump
1:22:29
was elected to serve.
1:22:31
We can now bring in Jodi Ginzburg, Chief
1:22:33
Executive Officer of the Committee to Protect Journalists,
1:22:36
who joins us from New York.
1:22:37
Thank you so much for joining us on
1:22:38
the program today.
1:22:39
Your reaction to this latest move from the
1:22:41
White House?
1:22:41
This is a terrible move, to be honest.
1:22:46
The way that the press pool works is
1:22:47
that those who are in the press pool,
1:22:49
which, as you say, is a small group
1:22:51
of people because you can't have the 800
1:22:54
journalists who are members of the White House
1:22:55
Correspondents Association all crowd into a room with
1:22:59
the president everywhere he goes, they provide information
1:23:02
to everybody else.
1:23:04
So all of the news about the president
1:23:06
that people get from their local radio stations,
1:23:08
for example, or in their regional newspapers, will
1:23:12
have come very often from the press pool.
1:23:15
And it's vital that those are independently selected,
1:23:18
that they're not in the gift of the
1:23:20
president and the administration whom they are covering.
1:23:23
Why do this now?
1:23:25
Well, this has come, it's believed, in reaction
1:23:29
to something that the Associated Press, one of
1:23:32
the wire news agencies, again, a service that
1:23:34
many other news outlets use, I imagine including
1:23:37
France 24, has done, it is said in
1:23:40
its style guide, which is used by many,
1:23:42
many news organizations, it will continue to call
1:23:45
the Gulf of Mexico the Gulf of Mexico.
1:23:48
Donald Trump has said that within America, it
1:23:50
should be known as the Gulf of America
1:23:53
and has barred the Associated Press from the
1:23:55
pool.
1:23:56
And there seems to be an extension of
1:23:57
that.
1:23:58
What it is, is an attempt to exert
1:24:00
more and more control over the press and
1:24:04
over the information that the public receives.
1:24:06
So even though this was phone dads for
1:24:09
the people, actually, this is not serving the
1:24:11
people at all.
1:24:12
It's not serving the people.
1:24:16
It's not serving the people at all.
1:24:18
Why won't the, what bug or hair crawled
1:24:22
up the AP's butt that they won't just
1:24:26
call it the Gulf of America?
1:24:28
I mean, why is this, why are they,
1:24:31
to quote your phrase, dying on this hill?
1:24:33
Well, there was somebody obviously at the operation
1:24:34
and the higher up saying, yeah, why are
1:24:37
we gonna be pushed around to be told
1:24:38
what to do?
1:24:40
We'll call it what we wanna call it.
1:24:42
And the White House took offense.
1:24:43
And the next thing you know, there's some
1:24:45
snowballing.
1:24:46
You get to, somebody finally took a, I
1:24:48
always thought it was corrupt that you had
1:24:50
one group, one lone group, the White House
1:24:54
Press Association, I guess is what it's called,
1:25:00
which used to be run by John Carl
1:25:02
over at CBS or ABC.
1:25:04
John Carl ran it.
1:25:05
He's a Trump hater and they get to
1:25:07
pick and choose who gets to go in
1:25:09
there and what they get to ask to
1:25:11
the point where they're almost scripting the questions.
1:25:14
And the whole thing is a scam in
1:25:16
some way and it should be open to
1:25:19
any bloggers, anyone who wants to, who can
1:25:22
find their way in there.
1:25:23
And besides that, it's like, you're right.
1:25:25
It's being streamed.
1:25:27
Yeah.
1:25:28
I mean, of course the AP can't ask
1:25:30
questions if they're not in the room.
1:25:33
When was the last time the AP, I
1:25:34
mean, how often does the AP ask questions?
1:25:35
I don't know, but I don't know.
1:25:37
It's usually, the guys in front, CBS, ABC,
1:25:40
NBC, sometimes OAN and a few other people
1:25:44
will ask the questions and I don't know.
1:25:48
I think that's making them, I think it's
1:25:51
an association that had control and they lost
1:25:55
control and now they're whining.
1:25:59
Yeah, okay.
1:25:59
And you should hear some of the press
1:26:00
people that are, oh, they should, this spineless
1:26:04
press, this is from journalists who are activists.
1:26:09
The spineless press, they should all walk out
1:26:12
and stop covering Trump because Trump will, because
1:26:18
he needs attention.
1:26:19
He's like a big baby.
1:26:20
He needs so much attention that if they
1:26:21
all walked out and didn't show up, then
1:26:24
he would die on the vine.
1:26:27
You're right, they are spineless because they'll never
1:26:29
do that because they know they're already mortally
1:26:32
wounded.
1:26:33
The elite messaging system is completely broken.
1:26:35
Do you remember the first, I was just
1:26:39
thinking about this the other day.
1:26:40
See if I have a clip of it.
1:26:42
When President Trump ran the first time and
1:26:45
he was a laughing stock, this was what
1:26:47
was going on at the time, 2015.
1:26:50
We need to talk about this.
1:26:51
Let's do it.
1:26:51
Because I think you guys have made a
1:26:52
mistake.
1:26:53
Yeah, so, I mean, nobody can deny that
1:26:55
Donald Trump is partly where he is in
1:26:57
the polls because of the media coverage.
1:26:59
And our big statement is that Donald Trump
1:27:01
is not a serious candidate.
1:27:02
He's an entertainer.
1:27:03
But you can't do that.
1:27:05
You, along with the Huffington Post, Washington Bureau
1:27:07
Chief, it's Ryan Grim.
1:27:08
You wrote this month or last month explaining
1:27:11
your decision not to cover the campaign of
1:27:14
Donald Trump as part of your political coverage.
1:27:17
And this is what you said.
1:27:17
You said, Trump's campaign is a sideshow.
1:27:20
We won't take the bait.
1:27:21
If you're interested in what the Donald has
1:27:22
to say, you'll find it next to our
1:27:25
stories on the Kardashians and The Bachelorette.
1:27:27
Okay, except- You remember that?
1:27:29
When all they did was cover- I
1:27:31
do remember that.
1:27:32
They made a big fuss about it.
1:27:33
Entertainment section.
1:27:34
Yeah, yeah, exactly.
1:27:36
So, although that was Huffington Post, it wasn't
1:27:38
AP, but it's all part of the same
1:27:40
system.
1:27:41
These guys suck.
1:27:43
All right, I have, first I have a
1:27:46
little bit of outrage and then I want
1:27:47
to explain what's going on because it's just
1:27:50
marketing, but that's not what the view, ladies
1:27:52
here.
1:27:53
Yesterday, the White House announced a brand new
1:27:56
path to U.S. residency.
1:28:00
Spit it out.
1:28:01
With an expensive toll.
1:28:06
Selling a gold card.
1:28:10
You have a green card.
1:28:11
This is a gold card.
1:28:12
We're going to be putting a price on
1:28:14
that card of about five billion dollars and
1:28:16
that's going to give you green card privileges
1:28:18
plus.
1:28:19
It's going to be a route to citizenship
1:28:21
and wealthy people will be coming into our
1:28:24
country by buying this card.
1:28:26
They'll be wealthy and they'll be successful and
1:28:29
they'll be spending a lot of money and
1:28:30
paying a lot of taxes and employing a
1:28:32
lot of people and we think it's going
1:28:34
to be extremely successful.
1:28:35
Would a Russian oligarch be eligible for a
1:28:38
gold card?
1:28:39
Yeah, possibly.
1:28:40
Hey, I know some Russian oligarchs that are
1:28:42
very nice people.
1:28:43
No.
1:28:45
Oh, no.
1:28:47
You know, remember when Elon bought America?
1:28:52
Yeah.
1:28:53
Yeah.
1:28:53
He could have saved money with this.
1:28:56
The way that he talks about it, it
1:28:57
makes it sound like America's for sale to
1:28:59
the highest bidder.
1:29:00
I don't like that, but what I will
1:29:01
say, this is actually.
1:29:02
Wait, hold on.
1:29:03
Are we selling the country to the highest?
1:29:06
Yes.
1:29:06
Yes, this is.
1:29:07
I thought they were selling a citizenship to
1:29:09
the country, not the country itself.
1:29:11
No, we're selling off.
1:29:12
Did I mishear something?
1:29:14
No, you heard them right, but this is
1:29:16
part of what they do.
1:29:17
This is their job.
1:29:18
Expansion on the existing EB-5 visa program.
1:29:21
I have some questions because those are basically
1:29:23
meant to incentivize the best and brightest to
1:29:25
come to America to create jobs here.
1:29:28
Not true.
1:29:28
To hire people, contribute tax revenue, but I
1:29:31
want to know, is there national security vetting?
1:29:33
So yes, could a terrorist organization or a
1:29:35
Russian oligarch come in?
1:29:36
And then just, again, don't make it sound
1:29:38
like we're for sale.
1:29:39
Make it sound like you want to come
1:29:40
here because you want to be in America.
1:29:42
Now, well, you said it sounded like we
1:29:45
were for sale, but if you really look
1:29:47
at what President Trump has done here, it's
1:29:49
just a rebrand of an existing program and
1:29:52
it's not unique to America.
1:29:54
More on that plan.
1:29:55
Let's cross live now to Fraser Jackson, our
1:29:57
correspondent in Washington.
1:30:00
So Fraser, we heard there from Donald Trump,
1:30:02
Russian oligarchs may be eligible.
1:30:05
What more do we know?
1:30:06
Well, as you heard there, Donald Trump said
1:30:08
the immigration program, which he said was legal,
1:30:10
would be open to possible Russian oligarchs.
1:30:13
He said that they could potentially qualify for
1:30:16
the gold cards.
1:30:17
He said that he expects this program to
1:30:19
be up and running in about two weeks.
1:30:21
Now, it should be noted that there is
1:30:23
already a similar program in effect here in
1:30:25
the United States.
1:30:26
It's called the EB-5 immigrant investor visa.
1:30:29
And if you remember during the first term,
1:30:31
Donald Trump said that he was going to
1:30:33
be raising the minimum for that card from
1:30:35
1 million to 1.8 million.
1:30:37
Well, that entire system has now been scrapped
1:30:39
entirely and seemingly replaced by this gold card
1:30:42
system where the buy-in fee is effectively
1:30:44
$5 million.
1:30:46
It's also not only a US kind of
1:30:50
thing.
1:30:50
We have seen this in multiple other countries
1:30:52
around the world.
1:30:53
It exists in Canada.
1:30:54
It also exists in places closer to home
1:30:56
in the UK, sorry, in the EU rather,
1:30:59
like places like Spain, Portugal, and Malta as
1:31:01
well.
1:31:01
So nothing completely new here from Donald Trump,
1:31:04
effectively just raising the bar that it costs
1:31:07
to get into the United States.
1:31:08
But the land about the oligarchy will likely
1:31:10
be picked up upon by the more progressive
1:31:13
parts of the United States political spectrum.
1:31:16
Yeah, like The View.
1:31:17
Exactly.
1:31:17
It's an existing program.
1:31:19
It's called the EBM, I think EBM-5.
1:31:22
And not like Sonny Hostin said is based
1:31:24
on merit.
1:31:25
No, it was about a million bucks, million
1:31:27
and a half.
1:31:27
And he's just rebranded it to the gold
1:31:30
card and called it five.
1:31:31
Yeah, he added some money to it.
1:31:33
This has been going on in Canada forever
1:31:36
during the 1997 Hong Kong turnover.
1:31:39
I think Australia too.
1:31:40
The Hong Kongers were moving to Canada, especially
1:31:42
BC, like by the dozens.
1:31:44
And I think it was only $250,000.
1:31:47
You know what Trump should do?
1:31:48
If I were the president, I would say,
1:31:50
you have the green card.
1:31:52
We all know that's hard to come by.
1:31:54
You have the gold card.
1:31:55
And then you can get the USA Plus
1:31:57
bundle.
1:32:00
Platinum card too.
1:32:01
Platinum, you get a tote bag.
1:32:04
You get a tour.
1:32:05
Tote bag.
1:32:05
You get a tour of the White House
1:32:06
and you get a newsletter.
1:32:09
That would be, he should keep going with
1:32:11
that.
1:32:11
It's very entertaining.
1:32:13
And we're all upset about it.
1:32:17
How can we do four more years of
1:32:19
this?
1:32:19
I don't know if I can handle this
1:32:20
media.
1:32:22
They're so out of control.
1:32:24
They're so charged up.
1:32:25
They're gonna have to, I hate to use
1:32:27
the word, I'm gonna use it.
1:32:28
They're gonna have to pivot.
1:32:31
Why would they?
1:32:33
Because they're succeeding.
1:32:35
They're succeeding.
1:32:35
I'll tell you.
1:32:37
Yes.
1:32:39
Because if they have their asses handed to
1:32:43
them and in the midterms, they're gonna have
1:32:46
to pivot.
1:32:48
I mean, there's some signs of it now
1:32:49
with the so-called middle range Democrats, mid
1:32:53
-road Democrats, whatever they wanna call themselves.
1:32:56
I will, I should play this clip.
1:32:58
This is not the same.
1:33:00
It's kind of the same kind of thing.
1:33:03
There's a group that's just started up.
1:33:05
If you remember the Lincoln Project and some
1:33:10
of these Trump haters, these Republicans.
1:33:13
Well, there's a new group that just started
1:33:14
up and there's this, I got a very
1:33:16
short one-minute clip, less than a minute
1:33:18
about it from NPR.
1:33:21
And they just had their first conference.
1:33:23
It's called Principles First.
1:33:26
And this is, wait, wait, wait.
1:33:28
Yep, waiting.
1:33:30
Principles First is conservative Republicans who believe in
1:33:34
the old Barry Goldwater style, conservatism, real republicanism.
1:33:38
They don't like what Trump's done to the
1:33:40
party.
1:33:40
They wanna go back to the old ways,
1:33:43
the old ways from 1964, none dare call
1:33:46
it treason era.
1:33:49
And so they've put together, it's just a
1:33:52
bunch of Trump haters, let's face it, because
1:33:53
most of the guys who were in that
1:33:55
period were- Haters United, THU, just do
1:34:01
it, just call it what it is.
1:34:04
I agree, anyway, here's the clip.
1:34:06
Former Republican U.S. Attorney General, Alberto Gonzales
1:34:10
says President Trump's decision to pardon January 6th
1:34:13
rioters is a betrayal of the American justice
1:34:16
system.
1:34:18
NPR's Sarah McCammon reports, Gonzales made the comments
1:34:21
during a gathering of anti-Trump conservatives in
1:34:24
Washington, D.C. Alberto Gonzales served as White
1:34:27
House Counsel and then United States Attorney General
1:34:30
under President George W.
1:34:32
Bush.
1:34:32
Speaking at the Principles First Summit in Washington,
1:34:35
D.C., Gonzales criticized several Trump administration decisions.
1:34:40
It is a betrayal to the men and
1:34:42
women at the Department of Justice who were
1:34:44
fired because they participated in the prosecution of
1:34:50
the January 6th rioters.
1:34:52
Gonzales went on to criticize Trump's decision to
1:34:54
pardon some 1,500 people convicted in connection
1:34:57
with the attack on the Capitol in 2021.
1:35:00
He said the president has that power under
1:35:02
the law, but said it was, quote, the
1:35:05
wrong thing to do.
1:35:06
Okay.
1:35:08
Well, that's about all they had to report
1:35:10
on it, but this has been, this little
1:35:12
operation is something to keep an eye on.
1:35:15
And what are they called again?
1:35:17
Principles First.
1:35:18
Principles First.
1:35:19
They're the high school principals, which it seems
1:35:22
is what they're kind of thinking like, but
1:35:24
they mean the principles of true conservatism versus
1:35:28
Trumpism.
1:35:30
And they think that, you know, Trump's a
1:35:32
bad guy.
1:35:33
Yeah, no, he's horrible.
1:35:35
So I want to go to Doge for
1:35:38
a second, because I do have a question
1:35:41
for you as a former government employee.
1:35:44
But first, probably for one of the last
1:35:47
times, and we did see her crying on
1:35:49
TikTok.
1:35:50
Did you see Joy Reid crying on TikTok?
1:35:53
Oh, everybody saw Joy Reid crying on TikTok.
1:35:55
My best is the side-by-side where
1:35:57
she, they have a clip of her ridiculing
1:36:00
people who cry.
1:36:03
And then her crying.
1:36:05
I feel bad for her.
1:36:06
So I'm not going to play that, but
1:36:07
I'm going to play one of her, I
1:36:09
think her last show was this Friday.
1:36:11
So here she is on the resistance Americans,
1:36:15
America finding ways to resist, resist Doge.
1:36:18
This regime.
1:36:19
Regime.
1:36:20
That we find ourselves living under is producing
1:36:23
massive chaos and trauma in the lives of
1:36:25
federal workers and in the country.
1:36:27
Chaos and trauma, no good.
1:36:28
Yeah, we can't have trauma.
1:36:30
Workers and in the country.
1:36:31
Just look at this latest round of protests
1:36:33
at Tesla dealerships, at town halls.
1:36:36
America is resisting in large ways and small.
1:36:38
America is saying no to Elon Musk running
1:36:41
us.
1:36:42
We do not want him in charge, period.
1:36:45
And Donald Trump, the guy who handed his
1:36:47
biggest donor, the keys to the whole federal
1:36:49
government for him to do whatever he pleases
1:36:51
with it is underwater in every single poll.
1:36:54
From Gallup to the Washington Post, to CNN,
1:36:56
to Reuters.
1:36:56
You name it.
1:36:57
Other than his man, nobody wants this chaos.
1:37:01
Well, since you brought that up, I think
1:37:03
it's hilarious.
1:37:05
Ah, do I have it here?
1:37:07
I had a clip of CNN talking about,
1:37:10
cause you know, they have a poll now.
1:37:12
They've got all kinds of polls.
1:37:13
But let me finish with Joy Reid because
1:37:14
she mentioned some blatant anti-Trump news organizations
1:37:19
there and they have their polls and all
1:37:21
the country hates it.
1:37:22
We resist it, large and small.
1:37:24
Everyone, no, we don't want Elon running anything.
1:37:27
No.
1:37:27
Give me an assessment from your expert point
1:37:30
of view of the resistance that we're seeing
1:37:32
in the country to all of the doge
1:37:34
Elon Musk, Trump chaos.
1:37:37
Yeah, so as we know, we don't have
1:37:40
a big generalized nonviolent mass protest, but we
1:37:43
have righteous indignation of breaking out spontaneously.
1:37:48
Righteous indignation.
1:37:49
There's a couple of terms coming up, right?
1:37:51
Like righteous indignation.
1:37:53
That's a good one.
1:37:53
Indignation of breaking out spontaneously all over the
1:37:57
nation.
1:37:58
And Joy, I really believe that there's a
1:38:00
reckoning that's going to come because what's happening
1:38:03
now at the hands of literally the world's
1:38:06
richest man who has taken control of our
1:38:09
government and is using it to enrich himself
1:38:12
and investigating, he's destroying agencies that have been
1:38:16
investigating his companies.
1:38:18
This brings forth such, it brings to a
1:38:22
peak all of the unfairness of neoliberalism, all
1:38:25
of the kind of the rich get richer
1:38:29
and that's one part of authoritarianism.
1:38:31
It's more, fewer rights for the many and
1:38:34
way more liberties for the few.
1:38:36
And so we're seeing a kind of indignation
1:38:42
and anger that's erupting at local town halls
1:38:47
in front of GOP members of Congress in
1:38:51
their town halls.
1:38:52
And so this is a very good sign
1:38:54
of something larger that I believe will come.
1:38:58
All right, so now is the term that
1:39:00
I'm sure you know more about than most.
1:39:02
As Elon Musk and the Department of Government
1:39:04
Efficiency and the Trump administration more broadly make
1:39:07
efforts to reform government and eliminate needless waste,
1:39:10
fraud and abuse, they're coming up against predictably
1:39:12
negative press coverage from the mainstream media, which
1:39:15
is often sympathetic to government employees and hostile
1:39:18
toward efforts to reduce the size and scope
1:39:20
of government.
1:39:21
That's why you'll often see, read and hear
1:39:23
stories about how some attempt or another by
1:39:26
Trump or Elon to change or mandate a
1:39:29
new system or eliminate it is resulting in
1:39:32
headaches for various people.
1:39:33
For instance, you might've read last week that
1:39:36
DOJ's efforts to reduce the federal workforce as
1:39:38
it pertains to the US park system was
1:39:41
creating long lines.
1:39:43
The Washington Post complained that the Trump administration
1:39:45
had gotten rid of the only locksmith at
1:39:47
Yosemite National Park.
1:39:49
He was described as the only employee with
1:39:51
quote, institutional knowledge needed to rescue visitors from
1:39:55
locked restrooms.
1:39:57
Sounds serious, right?
1:39:59
Elsewhere, you'll see constant complaints from media that
1:40:01
attempts to reduce the federal bureaucracy will hamstring
1:40:04
our efforts to fight diseases or have nuclear
1:40:07
safety or keep airplanes in the sky.
1:40:09
But what if there was something not entirely
1:40:12
genuine about these difficulties?
1:40:14
What if the federal bureaucracy sensing a threat
1:40:18
to its self-preservation was making things as
1:40:21
awful as possible in order to scare the
1:40:23
American people into thinking government can only function
1:40:26
if it is vast and unaccountable.
1:40:28
We actually have a term for this.
1:40:30
It's called malicious compliance.
1:40:32
It's when someone follows a new rule so
1:40:34
closely without applying common sense, such that they
1:40:37
ultimately work against the rule's stated purpose deliberately.
1:40:42
Okay, malicious compliance.
1:40:44
Is this a term you're familiar with?
1:40:47
Actually, no, but I know the process because
1:40:50
it's been done.
1:40:51
It's a standard operating procedure for anyone unionized.
1:40:55
It's called slowdown.
1:40:57
Ah, yeah, slowdown, right.
1:40:58
Everyone's heard of that.
1:41:00
But I did malicious compliance when I was
1:41:02
working in the private sector as an inspector
1:41:04
for Trailmobile.
1:41:05
It's an interesting story.
1:41:08
I used to, there used to be one
1:41:10
guy on the line of the line I
1:41:11
was inspecting who was kind of an amateur
1:41:15
comedian and I'd spend a lot of time
1:41:17
chatting with him until one day the foreman
1:41:20
of that line, the manufacturing guy, wasn't my
1:41:23
foreman.
1:41:24
He wasn't my supervisor, but he comes up
1:41:26
to me and he says, you know, you
1:41:27
chewed me out for wasting this guy's time
1:41:30
chatting with him.
1:41:33
And so it was like, okay, you want
1:41:35
to play that way?
1:41:36
I went back to the line and started
1:41:39
tagging because there's lots of flaws that most
1:41:41
inspectors just overlook because you don't- Wait,
1:41:43
was this when you were a can inspector?
1:41:45
No, no, this is cargo containers.
1:41:49
Oh, you inspected cargo containers too?
1:41:52
Yes, I did.
1:41:53
Wow.
1:41:53
For Pacific, for Mattson, Pacific, whatever their company
1:41:58
is, there's a bunch of different ones.
1:42:00
But in this case, they were aluminum.
1:42:03
And so these containers would come through and
1:42:05
I would just start tagging everything, any little
1:42:07
flaw, which normally you let pass because, you
1:42:11
know, you got to get these things out.
1:42:12
You can't just, because everything's flawed.
1:42:16
And so I just covered these containers with
1:42:19
these red tags and it's basically stopped the
1:42:23
line because you have to go back and
1:42:25
fix all this stuff, even though it's diddly
1:42:28
shit.
1:42:29
And so the guy, within just a few
1:42:31
hours, it didn't take that long, this foreman
1:42:34
comes up to me and apologizes profusely for
1:42:37
chewing me out and saying, you can do
1:42:39
it, you know, I'm sorry.
1:42:41
And he was just bending, he was just
1:42:42
almost in tears.
1:42:45
And that's what you can do if you're
1:42:49
one of these types of people like me.
1:42:52
So I can see malicious compliance.
1:42:55
I never did anything like that when I
1:42:56
was working for the government, but I can
1:42:58
see how you can do it.
1:42:59
So in these days of schedule F, if
1:43:01
someone's, if government workers think that malicious compliance
1:43:05
is the way, they may find themselves getting
1:43:08
canned.
1:43:11
Well, I wasn't worried about getting canned for
1:43:13
what I did on the Trailmobile line.
1:43:15
No, but if they're locking restrooms.
1:43:17
I disagree with that.
1:43:18
I think most of the time, especially if
1:43:20
you go with the way they described as
1:43:22
malicious compliance.
1:43:23
In other words, going by the book.
1:43:25
It's very hard to can somebody when they
1:43:27
can point at the regulation and say, look,
1:43:29
this is what it says to do.
1:43:31
I know we haven't been doing this, but
1:43:33
now that I'm worried about my job, I'm
1:43:35
gonna do this because it says I'm supposed
1:43:37
to.
1:43:37
So that's what I'm doing while you're firing
1:43:39
me.
1:43:42
This is what, you can do this.
1:43:44
It's doable and it works.
1:43:49
Of course, the question is how much resistance
1:43:52
is there?
1:43:53
Are people really upset?
1:43:55
Is this just magnification by the M5M?
1:43:58
It's magnification totally because everything I've seen so
1:44:01
far is mostly, employees on probation that don't
1:44:05
know how to pull these stunts.
1:44:08
Hold on a second.
1:44:09
Hold on, we have data.
1:44:11
We have data.
1:44:12
We have data that people hate Elon Musk
1:44:14
and Doge.
1:44:15
Data incoming, CNN.
1:44:16
Matt, anecdotes are not data, but we're starting
1:44:18
to get some data.
1:44:19
The anecdotes are not data.
1:44:20
Yeah, well, here it is.
1:44:21
She's got data.
1:44:22
Matt, anecdotes are not data, but we're starting
1:44:24
to get some data that puts numbers behind
1:44:26
this with 51% of respondents in a
1:44:29
recent CNN poll saying that President Trump's efforts
1:44:32
- So they bring in a CNN poll,
1:44:34
which is the same as a smirconish.
1:44:37
You know, it's like, well, let's just put
1:44:38
some numbers together.
1:44:39
We have a CNN poll.
1:44:40
We're CNN.
1:44:41
We have a CNN poll.
1:44:42
We don't like Trump.
1:44:43
Here's our data.
1:44:44
Puts numbers behind this with 51% of
1:44:47
respondents in a recent CNN poll saying that
1:44:49
President Trump's efforts to cut federal programs have
1:44:52
gone too far.
1:44:53
54% say they do not support him
1:44:56
giving Elon Musk this prominent role.
1:44:58
And a full 53% are afraid or
1:45:01
pessimistic about the rest of his term.
1:45:04
Oh, the data is in.
1:45:06
The data is in.
1:45:08
Yeah.
1:45:10
It's horrible.
1:45:12
Oh, luckily the public's not watching CNN.
1:45:16
No.
1:45:17
So I heard an interesting stat on, it
1:45:20
was actually on Fox News from this economist.
1:45:22
I think it may be an investor economist,
1:45:25
dude.
1:45:25
Gary Kaltbaum, ever hear of him?
1:45:27
No.
1:45:28
And, you know, and the thing is there's
1:45:30
so much, what's the term?
1:45:36
There's so much difference in the numbers that
1:45:38
everybody's giving on everything, just like measles and
1:45:43
the efficacy of the measles vaccine.
1:45:46
How much money do we actually send to
1:45:48
Ukraine, which is another one of those.
1:45:51
Remember they kept sending 40 billion here, 40
1:45:54
billion there.
1:45:54
It was like this, the same number, 40
1:45:56
billion, 40 billion.
1:45:58
So you couldn't, you kind of lose track
1:45:59
of how many times we sent 40 billion.
1:46:02
And, you know, so some say, you know,
1:46:04
the president says 500, then it's 350.
1:46:08
Zelensky, Macron says, no, no, no, we sent
1:46:11
60% of all the money.
1:46:12
Everyone's all over the map with these numbers.
1:46:15
And then there's also the Trump, you know,
1:46:17
he spent $7 trillion during his first term,
1:46:22
$8 trillion.
1:46:23
And here's the guy, Kalkbaum, talking about what
1:46:26
was spent during the Biden administration.
1:46:28
I think the best move would be to
1:46:31
first take down the debt, take down the
1:46:34
size of government, which by the way, is
1:46:36
up 60 some odd percent since the year
1:46:39
before COVID.
1:46:40
That's our government spending and has quadrupled since
1:46:44
the year 2000, which is quite the insanity.
1:46:48
The biggest bull market and the biggest inflation
1:46:50
we do have is the size of our
1:46:52
government that went unchecked with absolutely zero accountability
1:46:57
whatsoever.
1:46:58
So it is about time somebody's in there.
1:47:01
And the more I see people complain, the
1:47:03
more I know that they're probably in the
1:47:05
soup and have been a big part of
1:47:07
it.
1:47:07
I think he's probably right.
1:47:10
No, he's completely right.
1:47:12
But the thing is, I keep falling back
1:47:15
on my thesis, which is that this is
1:47:17
just a giant jobs program to keep us
1:47:20
out of the drink.
1:47:22
What do you mean?
1:47:22
How does it keep us out of the
1:47:24
drink?
1:47:25
Well, you keep it because you're putting money
1:47:26
back in circulation.
1:47:28
You're keeping people employed.
1:47:29
You're keeping them off the streets.
1:47:31
You're doing everything you can, you know, to
1:47:33
keep things propped up.
1:47:36
And you end up with what amounts to
1:47:39
being a jobs program.
1:47:40
And then if you try to straighten it
1:47:42
out, it's going to cause an economic collapse
1:47:44
at some point.
1:47:45
2026 is my prediction.
1:47:47
Well, we always said that as we were
1:47:49
looking the ramp up to this election with
1:47:51
President Trump, we always said, the Democrats probably
1:47:56
want him to win because the crap is
1:47:59
coming.
1:48:00
Everybody knows it.
1:48:01
Everybody sees it.
1:48:02
And they want him to deal with it.
1:48:03
And I think he knows it too.
1:48:06
And it's probably coming.
1:48:07
He might be right.
1:48:08
He might know it.
1:48:09
I think it's coming.
1:48:10
Well, let's talk about migration for a moment
1:48:13
as we have a big change in New
1:48:16
York City.
1:48:17
Over the last two years, the Roosevelt Hotel
1:48:19
has been the first stop for more than
1:48:21
173,000 immigrants in search of the American
1:48:25
dream, which is now set to shut its
1:48:28
doors in June.
1:48:29
Today marks another milestone.
1:48:32
Mayor Eric Adams making the announcement early Monday
1:48:34
morning on social media.
1:48:35
We are now in a place where we
1:48:37
are asking, well, where do people go?
1:48:39
This 38-year-old mother of three arrived
1:48:41
from Peru two months ago.
1:48:47
She says, they haven't told us anything.
1:48:49
On the contrary, they told us that when
1:48:51
they heard those rumors in the news that
1:48:53
we should be calm.
1:48:54
They're not going to move us.
1:48:56
They haven't told us anything about getting us
1:48:57
out of here or that they're going to
1:48:59
close the Roosevelt.
1:49:00
But the number of migrants in the city's
1:49:02
care are dramatically dropping over the last year
1:49:04
after the city implemented a 60-day stay
1:49:07
limit, purchased 53,000 tickets for migrants to
1:49:10
relocate to other cities, and helped nearly 100
1:49:13
,000 asylum seekers apply for work authorizations.
1:49:16
Not to mention the fears sparked by the
1:49:18
recent immigrant crackdown factoring into a decline in
1:49:21
new arrivals.
1:49:23
Now, the closing of the Roosevelt Hotel comes
1:49:26
just a week after Deputy Mayor Anne Williams
1:49:29
Isom, who has overseen asylum seekers over the
1:49:33
last two years.
1:49:34
It comes right after that.
1:49:36
So it's a timely announcement.
1:49:38
Right now, we know that 53 shelters will
1:49:40
be closing by mid-year, and how exactly
1:49:44
they're going to wind down operations here at
1:49:46
the Roosevelt Hotel remains to be seen.
1:49:49
This is going to be interesting.
1:49:50
That is such a prime piece of real
1:49:52
estate.
1:49:52
Will they bring back a flea bag motel
1:49:55
as the Roosevelt?
1:49:56
Or turn it into a five-star luxury
1:49:59
thing?
1:50:01
Well, in that report is something that I
1:50:03
have in another report, too.
1:50:06
These are asylum seekers, I think, mostly.
1:50:09
Is that what we're talking about here?
1:50:10
Because you brought them in.
1:50:11
The family's from Peru?
1:50:13
What's going on in Peru?
1:50:15
It's a problematic country.
1:50:17
By the way, Peru, interestingly enough, if you
1:50:20
look at download statistics from podcasts, there's always
1:50:23
a lot of downloads in Peru.
1:50:25
But yet we get no donations from Peru.
1:50:28
We don't have any, because there's nothing happening
1:50:30
in Peru except some farm that's putting numbers
1:50:34
up for the Midas Touch podcast.
1:50:37
The podcast industrial complex, the Midas Touch.
1:50:40
It's bullcrap.
1:50:40
You worked in a company that did that.
1:50:43
No, I cannot confirm or deny.
1:50:46
So, well, let's talk, we're going to talk
1:50:48
about these refugees.
1:50:49
Let's get the refugee problem on PBS.
1:50:51
I got a four-parter here that's kind
1:50:53
of interesting.
1:50:55
Let's play these.
1:50:56
A federal judge in Seattle has blocked President
1:50:58
Trump's executive order halting the admission of refugees
1:51:01
into the US.
1:51:03
The judge said the administration had likely exceeded
1:51:05
its authority by freezing the US refugee admissions
1:51:09
program, which was established by Congress back in
1:51:11
1980.
1:51:12
It remains to be seen whether the administration
1:51:14
will comply, while a lawsuit challenging the ban
1:51:18
filed by some of the country's largest resettlement
1:51:20
organizations works its way through the courts.
1:51:23
We're joined now by Mark Hetfield.
1:51:26
He's the president of HIAS.
1:51:27
That's the country's oldest refugee resettlement agency.
1:51:30
And the organization's also a plaintiff in that
1:51:33
lawsuit.
1:51:33
Thanks for being with us.
1:51:34
Thank you, Jeff.
1:51:35
So first, help us understand what the US
1:51:37
refugee admissions program is, how does the program
1:51:40
work, and who does it aim to assist?
1:51:42
Sure.
1:51:43
So the program was started in 1980 by
1:51:45
the Refugee Act of 1980 to provide a
1:51:48
safe and legal pathway for people fleeing persecution
1:51:51
or war or conflict to come to the
1:51:54
United States to either join with family or
1:51:57
to meet foreign policy, humanitarian policy priorities of
1:52:00
the United States government.
1:52:02
So what was the material impact of this
1:52:04
suspension?
1:52:05
How were the refugees affected and your employees
1:52:08
as well?
1:52:09
It was devastating.
1:52:11
And this was not just a mere suspension
1:52:13
like it was in the first Trump term.
1:52:15
This was a complete dismantlement of the refugee
1:52:19
program because not only did all refugees, not
1:52:22
only were all refugees stopped from arriving, but
1:52:25
also all the processing offices were shut down.
1:52:30
Everything was defunded.
1:52:31
So it's gonna be almost impossible to start
1:52:34
it back up.
1:52:34
And in terms of the actual impact, for
1:52:37
example, my agency had 621 refugees who were
1:52:41
vetted by Homeland Security, approved by Homeland Security,
1:52:46
had plane tickets in hand, were supposed to
1:52:48
arrive in February, but they're not coming.
1:52:51
Oh man, I love this organization.
1:52:52
This is another religious-based organization.
1:52:55
This is the Hebrew Immigrant Aid Society who
1:53:01
in 2023, I'm gonna look up the 990
1:53:05
while we play the next clip, had $128
1:53:08
million in receipts.
1:53:11
So way to go.
1:53:13
Do-gooders.
1:53:14
They're very do-gooders.
1:53:16
Okay, let's go to the next clip.
1:53:18
The plane tickets were literally snatched out of
1:53:20
their hands.
1:53:20
So when you say it's nearly impossible to
1:53:22
restart this work, tell me more about that.
1:53:25
Well, to resettle refugees, you're gonna have to
1:53:28
have people that prepare their applications, that assist
1:53:32
them overseas, that give them cultural orientation, that
1:53:35
book their plane tickets, that then receive them
1:53:37
here in the United States, which is what
1:53:39
my agency HIAS does along with the other
1:53:41
non-resettlement agencies.
1:53:42
All of those things were completely defunded.
1:53:46
Your organization is a Jewish organization.
1:53:49
Many of the resettlement organizations are faith organizations.
1:53:53
How does faith inform the work that you
1:53:55
do?
1:53:55
Well, in the Torah, 36 times it's repeated
1:53:59
to welcome the stranger, to love the stranger
1:54:02
as ourselves, for we were once strangers ourselves.
1:54:05
And so it's really a fundamental part of
1:54:07
our history and of our values.
1:54:09
And not just going back to the holy
1:54:11
books, but also our more recent experience in
1:54:14
the 20th century, 21st century, the Jewish people
1:54:17
are a people who know displacement.
1:54:19
And so we are naturally empathetic.
1:54:22
I'm sure, as you know, Vice President J
1:54:24
.D. Vance recently accused the US Conference of
1:54:27
Catholic Bishops of profiting off its work resettling
1:54:30
refugees.
1:54:31
Do you or any of the organizations profit
1:54:35
off this work?
1:54:35
Is that even a motive of yours?
1:54:37
No.
1:54:37
Nah.
1:54:39
$25 million in salary says differently, as far
1:54:43
as I'm concerned, just looking at their 2023
1:54:45
990.
1:54:46
No, it's the same with the Lutherans.
1:54:48
Although the Lutheran church distanced themselves from the
1:54:51
Lutheran refugee program, saying, well, you know, that
1:54:56
thing was put together after World War II,
1:54:59
and we don't have anything to do with
1:55:01
it.
1:55:01
They just use the Lutheran name, which I'm
1:55:04
sure is exactly what HIAS is as well.
1:55:07
This is a giant scam.
1:55:09
And the Catholic Bishops Conference.
1:55:13
Yeah, right.
1:55:15
There's some nice salaries here.
1:55:17
And good parties, good parties, good parties.
1:55:20
No, so clip three has a contradictory piece
1:55:23
of information that I found interesting.
1:55:25
This is a labor of love.
1:55:28
This is something we have to raise money
1:55:30
for because we can't possibly do it on
1:55:32
the funding that the federal government gives us.
1:55:34
It is a public private partnership.
1:55:37
And so now we've raised lots of funding
1:55:39
to welcome refugees.
1:55:40
Stop the clip.
1:55:42
Public private partnership, that's good.
1:55:44
So public, we have to raise money because
1:55:46
we can't make it on the government money.
1:55:49
We need to raise money.
1:55:50
So wait a minute, then what difference does
1:55:52
it make that the government cut you off?
1:55:55
Yeah, yeah, no, I hear the contradiction, exactly.
1:55:59
And so now we've raised lots of funding
1:56:01
to welcome refugees to the United States, and
1:56:03
now none of them are coming, including refugees
1:56:06
who themselves are fleeing religious persecution.
1:56:09
Oh, so now you have to get a
1:56:10
real job.
1:56:11
Well, that sucks.
1:56:12
Because, you know, I think the government, something
1:56:14
like $1,700 per person they place, and
1:56:19
they're just placing people.
1:56:21
They're not housing people, as far as I
1:56:23
know.
1:56:23
Most of these organizations don't.
1:56:24
They place people.
1:56:27
And there's another thing in here, the highest
1:56:29
foundation.
1:56:31
There's a lot of things going on here.
1:56:35
In this show, we have a term for
1:56:37
this called sketchy.
1:56:38
Sketchy, yes.
1:56:40
And then they have the highest and council
1:56:42
migration service.
1:56:44
Wow.
1:56:45
Yeah, they talk people into coming, so let's
1:56:47
go to the last part.
1:56:49
Afghan, people who supported us in Afghanistan, people
1:56:52
who supported US veterans and risked their lives
1:56:54
or who worked for the US Embassy in
1:56:56
Kabul, they can't come.
1:56:58
People whose families were separated by conflict or
1:57:00
war, those parents and children will remain separated
1:57:04
indefinitely.
1:57:04
Those kids are essentially being orphaned by this
1:57:07
Trump administration policy.
1:57:09
The administration, in its executive order, argued that
1:57:12
the United States lacks the ability to absorb
1:57:15
large numbers of migrants, and in particular refugees,
1:57:18
into its communities in a manner that does
1:57:20
not compromise the availability of resources for Americans.
1:57:23
This is an argument the administration makes fairly
1:57:26
often, that resources are finite.
1:57:29
What's your reaction to that?
1:57:30
My reaction is that that's an argument that
1:57:33
the Trump administration made in 2017 and that
1:57:36
they themselves proved was fallacious.
1:57:38
In 2017, in the Muslim and Refugee Ban,
1:57:41
President Trump commissioned a study to demonstrate how
1:57:44
much resettled refugees cost the American taxpayer.
1:57:48
But they looked at both sides of the
1:57:50
ledger when they did that study, and they
1:57:52
found that over a 10-year period, resettled
1:57:55
refugees contributed 63 billion, with a B, dollars
1:58:00
more in federal, state, and local taxes than
1:58:03
they took in services and assistance.
1:58:05
So fortunately for us, while we welcome refugees
1:58:08
because it's the right thing to do, it
1:58:10
just also happens to be to the benefit
1:58:13
of the economy, to the benefit of the
1:58:14
country.
1:58:15
Refugees are a blessing.
1:58:16
They're not a burden.
1:58:17
I love how he starts off by saying,
1:58:21
we looked at what it costs the American
1:58:23
public, and then without answering that, he says,
1:58:26
but they really give us more to the
1:58:28
economy than it costs, without saying what it
1:58:30
costs.
1:58:32
Again, this is typical.
1:58:34
Yeah.
1:58:35
They never report on numbers.
1:58:37
They never give us numbers.
1:58:38
No, you have to go into the 990,
1:58:41
but you see there's a lot of money
1:58:42
going around.
1:58:42
This is actually one of the smaller ones.
1:58:44
What was the one in Austin that Obama
1:58:48
opened?
1:58:49
Austin, and it was like a billion dollars
1:58:52
a year.
1:58:54
Yeah, this is good stuff.
1:58:57
Yeah, it's good business.
1:58:59
To go on with the horrors of this,
1:59:03
we have some clips of what's going on
1:59:05
with the Costa Rica movement.
1:59:07
This is kind of interesting.
1:59:08
Costa Rica movement, huh?
1:59:10
Yeah, they're moving people through Costa Rica for
1:59:12
one reason or another, which I guess they've
1:59:14
been doing for a long time.
1:59:16
And this will be, the clip will be
1:59:19
Costa Rica BS1.
1:59:21
President Trump made carrying out the largest mass
1:59:24
deportation in US history a cornerstone of his
1:59:27
2024 campaign.
1:59:29
But there are reports he's unhappy with the
1:59:31
pace of that effort so far.
1:59:32
William Brangham reports now on a new controversial
1:59:35
tactic to carry out the administration's crackdown on
1:59:38
illegal migration.
1:59:40
This plane landed in San Jose, Costa Rica
1:59:43
last week, descending through a cloud of uncertainty.
1:59:46
On board were 135 people deported from the
1:59:50
US on a journey back to their home
1:59:52
countries or somewhere else.
1:59:55
None are Costa Rican citizens.
1:59:59
There are 65 children and 70 adults.
2:00:02
They're families.
2:00:03
Costa Rica is committed to voluntarily returning deportees
2:00:06
to their country of origin in up to
2:00:08
30 days.
2:00:09
The group, hailing from as far away as
2:00:11
China, Vietnam, and Ghana, were then bused to
2:00:15
a rural holding facility paid for by the
2:00:17
US.
2:00:19
Costa Rica became the second Central American country
2:00:22
after Panama to serve as a stopover for
2:00:25
unauthorized migrants being removed from the US by
2:00:29
the Trump administration.
2:00:31
Panama accepted almost 300 deportees who were initially
2:00:35
held under armed guard in this Panama City
2:00:38
hotel.
2:00:39
Images of that group stuck inside, unable to
2:00:42
leave, made headlines last week.
2:00:45
We are providing them with all the necessary
2:00:47
medical food and comfort services, and we will
2:00:49
continue to do so until the last one
2:00:51
has left our country, which is what was
2:00:53
agreed with the United States government.
2:00:55
No, I'd never heard of this.
2:00:57
Yeah.
2:00:58
Yeah, we've done some deals to get to
2:01:00
move people around.
2:01:01
But who did the deals?
2:01:02
Who did these deals?
2:01:04
I think it was largely Rubio at the
2:01:09
behest of Trump.
2:01:11
Okay.
2:01:11
But Rubio, anything that's got to do with
2:01:13
anything south of the border's got to be
2:01:15
Rubio.
2:01:15
He's like, you know, he's just definitely a
2:01:17
Western Hemisphere guy.
2:01:19
Let's listen to, Clip 2, by the way,
2:01:22
is, has an answer.
2:01:23
Yeah, yeah, I see it, I see it.
2:01:24
More than half agreed to be returned to
2:01:26
their home countries.
2:01:27
97 were sent to a facility in the
2:01:30
Darien Gap, a treacherous point of passage at
2:01:33
Panama's southern border with Colombia, which is used
2:01:36
by many migrants.
2:01:38
Susana Sabalza is a Panamanian migration lawyer representing
2:01:42
a Taiwanese family, including a child under five,
2:01:46
who were sent to the Darien facility.
2:01:48
Do you have any understanding as to what
2:01:50
the conditions are like in that facility?
2:01:53
Okay.
2:01:54
I stopped it there because Taiwanese family?
2:01:59
Is there something going on in Taiwan?
2:02:01
Maybe they're the home of TMSC?
2:02:03
Yes, very troubling country.
2:02:05
Or TSMC, I guess.
2:02:06
Lots of problems.
2:02:07
You know, it's heating up.
2:02:09
China's going to invade any day now.
2:02:11
Come on into America.
2:02:12
You are a refugee.
2:02:14
I'm just not getting it.
2:02:15
We had the Peruvian in the other clip,
2:02:17
and now we got these Taiwanese.
2:02:19
They're sneaking into the country.
2:02:21
It just doesn't make any sense.
2:02:24
No, it doesn't.
2:02:26
Let me go to the third of the
2:02:27
series.
2:02:30
I haven't seen the conditions with my own
2:02:32
eyes, but I've spoken to reporters who have,
2:02:35
and they say the conditions weren't pleasant.
2:02:38
We have to keep in mind the children,
2:02:40
who are the future of humanity.
2:02:42
Think of the children.
2:02:43
If they're experiencing this type of trauma in
2:02:44
a tropical refugee camp, I want to know
2:02:46
that they're doing well and that they have
2:02:48
good care.
2:02:49
If we could get them out of our
2:02:51
country, we have other countries that would take
2:02:54
them.
2:02:54
This new process, using Latin American countries as
2:02:57
a temporary bridge for deportees, partly helps the
2:03:01
administration because the U.S. doesn't always have
2:03:03
diplomatic relationships with some of the migrants' countries
2:03:07
of origin.
2:03:08
So by transferring them to other nations, it
2:03:10
transfers the diplomatic labor of repatriation to them
2:03:13
as well.
2:03:14
This is a significant or even a mammoth
2:03:19
departure from the practices of the past.
2:03:21
Muzaffar Chishti is a senior fellow at the
2:03:24
Migration Policy Institute.
2:03:25
The president has made no secret of the
2:03:28
fact that he believes that he won this
2:03:30
election using immigration as a calling card.
2:03:33
And that message has not been lost on
2:03:36
every single agency head and cabinet member of
2:03:40
this administration.
2:03:41
They have decided that deportation machinery is now
2:03:44
the number one paragraph of their job description.
2:03:48
All right.
2:03:50
This guy's one of those internationalist organizations that's
2:03:54
promoting moving the population of the world around
2:03:58
so much that you have a globalist takeover.
2:04:00
Yeah.
2:04:03
Well, just the talk of ICE and Holman
2:04:07
and everything that's going on is, of course,
2:04:09
having results.
2:04:12
Here's ABC.
2:04:13
A month into President Trump's term, some border
2:04:15
agents say his executive order on immigration appears
2:04:18
to be working.
2:04:19
They say migration to the U.S. has
2:04:20
significantly slowed.
2:04:22
The Department of Homeland Security is also reporting
2:04:24
apprehensions have slowed.
2:04:25
ABC's Matt Rivers is in Mexico City.
2:04:28
Matt, how significant is this slowdown?
2:04:30
It's stunning, Diane.
2:04:31
There's no other way to put it, really.
2:04:33
The amount of people arriving to the U
2:04:35
.S. Southwest border has plummeted since the peak
2:04:38
months that we saw, let's say 18 months
2:04:40
ago.
2:04:40
We did start to see the numbers significantly
2:04:42
slow down when President Biden was still in
2:04:45
office, thanks to pretty intense restrictions that his
2:04:47
administration had put into place.
2:04:49
But President Trump taking that even further, essentially
2:04:52
cutting off any chance at applying for asylum
2:04:54
at the U.S. Southwest border.
2:04:56
Also, when you look at the people coming
2:04:57
up from the South, you look at the
2:04:59
Darien Gap, which is that land bridge between
2:05:01
Colombia and Panama.
2:05:02
It's a stretch of jungle that anybody wanting
2:05:04
to walk from South America to North America
2:05:07
must go through.
2:05:08
The number of people that the Panamanian government
2:05:11
has registered going through that jungle gap has
2:05:13
plummeted to the lowest level that we've seen
2:05:16
since February of 2021, when we were right
2:05:18
in the middle of the pandemic.
2:05:20
So by any metric you look at this,
2:05:22
people have stopped arriving for the most part
2:05:24
at the U.S. Southwest border.
2:05:25
And it's even more interesting than that.
2:05:27
We now have a term called reverse migration.
2:05:30
Now you say thousands of migrants are even
2:05:32
giving up mid-journey, right?
2:05:34
They're already on their way, and then they're
2:05:36
going back home before they ever even reach
2:05:38
the border.
2:05:38
What does that tell you?
2:05:40
Yeah, there were a lot of migrants that
2:05:41
had essentially become stuck here in Mexico during
2:05:43
the Biden administration.
2:05:45
They were waiting for their asylum claims to
2:05:46
be processed by using this application on their
2:05:49
smartphones that the Biden administration had set up.
2:05:51
But Trump basically canceled that in addition to
2:05:54
all the other restrictions he's put into place.
2:05:56
And so what we're now seeing is this
2:05:58
new phenomenon called reverse migration.
2:06:00
Essentially, you've got people from, let's say Venezuela,
2:06:03
Colombia, the two biggest emigration hotspots over the
2:06:05
last few years, coming all the way to
2:06:07
Mexico and essentially now looking around at the
2:06:10
landscape and saying, you know what?
2:06:11
It's not worth it to stay here.
2:06:13
I don't want to run the risk of
2:06:14
deportation.
2:06:15
I know the Trump administration is not going
2:06:16
to let me in.
2:06:17
Therefore, they're making the very difficult decision to
2:06:20
return home.
2:06:21
President Trump, whether you like him or not,
2:06:23
whether you agree with his policies or not,
2:06:25
it has to be said that if his
2:06:28
goal here is to curb irregular migration to
2:06:30
the United States- He is wildly succeeding
2:06:33
at that.
2:06:33
Yes, irregular migration.
2:06:35
It's another term for illegal.
2:06:37
Breaking news.
2:06:39
Breaking news.
2:06:41
Breaking, breaking.
2:06:43
Pam Bondi.
2:06:45
Pam Bondi, I have it here.
2:06:46
Presumed my possession.
2:06:48
Pam Bondi has sent a letter to FBI
2:06:50
Director Kash Patel.
2:06:53
Now, what did Pam Bondi say yesterday?
2:06:56
Yesterday on the Jesse Watters show, she said,
2:06:59
and she also called it breaking news.
2:07:02
Yes, it was breaking.
2:07:04
That she will release the Jeffrey Epstein files,
2:07:09
at least some of them, not the victim's
2:07:11
files, but the files, which means the airplane
2:07:14
logs, today.
2:07:16
And did she not say, Jesse, it's horrible
2:07:18
what I have here on my desk?
2:07:20
She had it on her desk?
2:07:21
Yeah, she had it on her desk and
2:07:22
it was horrible.
2:07:24
Horrifying and horrible.
2:07:25
Dear Director Patel, before you came into office,
2:07:28
I requested the full and complete files related
2:07:30
to Jeffrey Epstein.
2:07:31
In response to this request, I received approximately
2:07:33
200 pages of documents, which consisted primarily of
2:07:36
flight logs, Epstein's list of contacts, and a
2:07:39
list of victims' names and phone numbers.
2:07:42
By the way, everyone has this.
2:07:44
I have a copy of it.
2:07:45
It's been out there since January, at least.
2:07:49
She goes on.
2:07:50
I repeatedly questioned whether this was the full
2:07:53
set of documents responsive to my request and
2:07:55
was repeatedly assured by the FBI that we
2:07:59
had received the full set of documents late
2:08:01
yesterday.
2:08:02
I learned from a source, familiar with the
2:08:04
matter, that the FBI field office in New
2:08:07
York was in possession of thousands of pages
2:08:09
of documents related to the investigation and indictment
2:08:11
of Epstein.
2:08:12
Despite my repeated requests, the FBI has never
2:08:15
disclosed the existence of these files.
2:08:17
When you and I spoke yesterday, you were
2:08:19
just as surprised as I was to learn
2:08:21
this new information.
2:08:22
Despite the fact that Pam Bondi yesterday on
2:08:25
Jesse Waters said it was horrific, horrifying.
2:08:29
It's unbelievable.
2:08:30
By 8 a.m. tomorrow, February 20th, the
2:08:33
FBI will deliver the full and complete Epstein
2:08:34
files to my office, including all records, documents,
2:08:37
audio and video recordings and materials related to
2:08:39
Jeffrey Epstein and his clients, regardless of how
2:08:42
much information was obtained.
2:08:43
There'll be no withholdings or limitations to my
2:08:45
or your access.
2:08:47
The Department of Justice will ensure that any
2:08:48
public disclosure of these files will be done
2:08:50
in a manner to protect the privacy of
2:08:52
victims and in accordance with the law.
2:08:54
As I've done my entire career as a
2:08:56
prosecutor, I'm also directing you, Kash Patel, to
2:08:59
conduct an immediate investigation into why my order
2:09:01
to the FBI was not followed.
2:09:03
You will deliver to me a comprehensive report
2:09:05
of your findings and proposed personnel action within
2:09:07
14 days.
2:09:09
So yesterday, she was full of crap.
2:09:13
She didn't have anything.
2:09:15
She just says in this note.
2:09:17
I don't know why she, you know, when
2:09:18
she did it, I'm saying it's breaking news
2:09:21
and she made a fuss.
2:09:22
I was baffled by it because I knew
2:09:24
this was something like this would happen, some
2:09:26
stalling tactic.
2:09:29
So why did she do it?
2:09:30
I don't know.
2:09:32
She was, but she lied.
2:09:34
She lied by saying, oh, Joe, it's so
2:09:36
horrible.
2:09:37
We're gonna protect the victims, but she didn't
2:09:39
even have it.
2:09:40
I literally got from a friend of mine
2:09:42
in Australia, I got a zip file with
2:09:47
the, you know, not just the written, with
2:09:48
the typed out flight logs and his address
2:09:51
book, which is meaningless.
2:09:54
I mean, I have all kinds of criminals
2:09:56
in my contact list.
2:09:58
Yeah, of course you do.
2:09:59
Makes nothing but sense to me.
2:10:00
I mean, diamond smugglers, international arms dealers.
2:10:03
I probably do too if I could find
2:10:05
it.
2:10:06
It's on the computer that has the password
2:10:09
to Dvorak.org slash NA.
2:10:11
So, uh-huh, uh-huh.
2:10:13
There you go.
2:10:13
But this is, that's kind of outrageous.
2:10:15
She lied.
2:10:17
You know.
2:10:19
That's very disappointing.
2:10:21
We have to just assume that all, that
2:10:24
a lot of this is show, and she's,
2:10:27
you know, she's the very telegenic woman who
2:10:31
looks good on TV.
2:10:33
That's all I can say.
2:10:34
Well, that's fine, but that's, it's not, I
2:10:36
find this very disappointing.
2:10:39
It's one of the- Yeah, where's the,
2:10:40
I mean- Jesse should get her back
2:10:42
on today.
2:10:43
Yes!
2:10:44
Now, what, he can text her.
2:10:47
He has her number.
2:10:48
He's got her text number.
2:10:49
How come you lied to me yesterday, Pam?
2:10:51
On the show.
2:10:52
Lied to him?
2:10:53
Did she lie to the American public?
2:10:54
Yes.
2:10:56
It's an outrage.
2:10:56
Breaking!
2:10:58
Breaking!
2:10:58
Someone lied in government.
2:11:02
Ah, with that, I want to thank you
2:11:03
for your courage.
2:11:04
Say in the morning to you, the man
2:11:05
who put the C in the chicken worker.
2:11:07
Say hello to my friend on the other
2:11:08
end, the one, the only, Mr. John C.
2:11:11
Dvorak!
2:11:14
Yeah, we're in the morning to you, Mr.
2:11:16
Icran.
2:11:16
In the morning, if the C blows to
2:11:18
the graphene, the air subs in the water,
2:11:20
and it dings the nights out there.
2:11:20
In the morning to the trolls in the
2:11:22
troll room.
2:11:22
Hold on, trolls, let me count you.
2:11:24
There we go.
2:11:24
Here we go.
2:11:28
You know what?
2:11:29
Everyone was hoping that the news of the
2:11:31
Epstein files would break on the show.
2:11:34
So, peak trollage, 2135, above average.
2:11:38
Well above average.
2:11:39
Well above average.
2:11:40
Yeah, it's been that way.
2:11:41
Yeah, yeah, because it's interesting.
2:11:43
People are like, these guys got it all.
2:11:45
They can tell us what's happening.
2:11:46
And all we have is disappointment for you.
2:11:51
Pam Bondi is bad for the show.
2:11:53
I'm just going to have to say it.
2:11:57
So, those trolls are in the troll room,
2:12:00
at trollroom.io. And I'm still waiting.
2:12:04
Connor James, he's got to fix that.
2:12:05
He has some average numbers.
2:12:07
Let me see if that thing is working
2:12:09
again, because he had this trollcount.site. No,
2:12:12
no, that doesn't work anymore.
2:12:14
But, short-lived.
2:12:16
Very short-lived.
2:12:18
Trollcount.cottongen. Okay, let's see.
2:12:21
Oh, nice graph.
2:12:23
But it doesn't really show me the averages.
2:12:25
Oh well, no.
2:12:27
He'll have, oh man, after you dropped off,
2:12:30
we had a big drop off in trolls.
2:12:32
The minute clean feed worked, they dropped off.
2:12:37
It was horrible.
2:12:40
Technical difficulty's not good for the show.
2:12:43
No, of course not.
2:12:44
These trolls are listening.
2:12:44
Well, not for the live show.
2:12:45
It doesn't matter for the podcast.
2:12:47
No, it matters to me.
2:12:48
I mean, I don't like.
2:12:50
Well, everything matters to you.
2:12:50
I don't like trolls bailing.
2:12:52
That's no good.
2:12:53
It's not good for the show.
2:12:54
No, it's not good for the show.
2:12:55
They're listening at trollroom.io. You can sign
2:12:57
up, and then you can go ahead and
2:12:59
troll along with the best of them.
2:13:01
And bail whenever you feel like it.
2:13:03
Or you can use one of the modern
2:13:04
podcast apps at podcastapps.com.
2:13:08
Let's see.
2:13:08
I'm going to recommend Fountain again.
2:13:10
Fountain is a fantastic modern app.
2:13:11
You've been recommending it to an extreme.
2:13:14
We should mention, if you're going to start
2:13:15
plugging stuff, we should mention we finally got
2:13:17
our sticker on the Ashland Speed car.
2:13:20
Yes, I had it written.
2:13:21
Now, not just the, it's the Whelan's Mazda
2:13:23
MX-5 as she's been upgraded to this
2:13:26
new competitive class.
2:13:30
Yeah, she's up there, and she's got this
2:13:31
in the back so people get to see
2:13:33
it if they're following.
2:13:36
Yeah, I'm amazed, honestly, that we're on the
2:13:39
car at all.
2:13:40
Well, we'll stay on the car for a
2:13:43
while, but then eventually, we know what's going
2:13:46
to happen eventually as to, you know, can
2:13:48
we get a pit pass?
2:13:49
You know, some days in the future.
2:13:52
Who, yeah, we'll get you a pit pass.
2:13:53
Who, what's your name?
2:13:54
Yeah, my name's Adam Curry.
2:13:56
Who?
2:13:57
Did you spell that?
2:13:58
How do you spell that?
2:13:59
No, they'll remain loyal to us.
2:14:01
And I should- I don't know about
2:14:02
you.
2:14:03
We've got to go with the normal flow
2:14:04
of things.
2:14:05
This is the way things go.
2:14:06
It's just, it's something you have to put
2:14:07
up with.
2:14:08
But they have a new shop they want
2:14:09
us to plug, which is shop.ashlandspeed.com.
2:14:12
Yes.
2:14:13
You can buy a hat.
2:14:14
No, no, there's T-shirts.
2:14:16
And in fact, there's an Ashland Speed Racing
2:14:18
Team T-shirt with no agenda on the
2:14:20
sleeve, which is cool.
2:14:23
Yeah, I think Scaramanga put this together for
2:14:25
him.
2:14:25
Yeah, Scaramanga put a site together for him.
2:14:27
I didn't know he was a web developer.
2:14:29
Yeah.
2:14:30
I thought he was an artist.
2:14:31
Well, he's a web artist, I guess.
2:14:35
Yeah, I'm going to buy one of these.
2:14:37
I'll get an Ashland Speed Racing Team, although
2:14:39
do they have it in different colors except
2:14:40
pink?
2:14:42
I think pink's fine for where you live,
2:14:45
Fredericksburg, Texas.
2:14:46
Oh, yeah, if you want to get shot,
2:14:48
yeah, it's great.
2:14:49
Hey, son, what's wrong with you, Nancy?
2:14:51
Hey, what are you doing wearing pink?
2:14:52
What's up with you, Nancy?
2:14:53
You know, I've seen some guy wearing pink
2:14:55
out there, and you know, we took a
2:14:56
shot at him with the shotgun.
2:14:58
Yeah, he bled like a little sissy.
2:15:02
Nancy, what you doing, Nancy?
2:15:04
Oh, yeah, that's very cool.
2:15:06
We're very proud of Ashland Speed.
2:15:09
I mean, we just, you know, I don't
2:15:12
want to get, I got this big argument.
2:15:14
We had a motorcyclist, too.
2:15:16
What happened to our motorcycle racer?
2:15:18
We had a motorcycle racer?
2:15:20
Oh, you forget so soon.
2:15:22
Yeah, I know we had a lot of
2:15:23
guys who have model cars they race that
2:15:26
are like full decked out.
2:15:27
We got a guy, a robotics freak.
2:15:30
Yeah, we got a couple of those, we
2:15:32
do.
2:15:33
Wow.
2:15:33
I feel women are just as good at
2:15:35
racing as men.
2:15:37
There's no difference.
2:15:39
She's good.
2:15:41
She's bold, bold on the track, I tell
2:15:44
you.
2:15:46
So she has, of course, provided us with
2:15:48
value by promoting the show on her car,
2:15:51
on her many cars, and there'll be many
2:15:52
more to come.
2:15:53
And I'm sure we'll receive pit passes at
2:15:55
least once, at least one time, at least
2:15:59
once.
2:16:00
Who are these doofuses?
2:16:01
Why are they here?
2:16:02
Why are these guys here?
2:16:03
Get them out.
2:16:06
And that's how the Noah Jenner Show has
2:16:08
continued to survive and in some years thrive,
2:16:12
and it depends.
2:16:13
You know, this is a tough time.
2:16:14
I get a lot of emails from people
2:16:16
saying, I'm broke.
2:16:17
Say, OK, well, that's understandable.
2:16:20
When you're not broke, then you can support
2:16:21
us or you can do something else for
2:16:22
us.
2:16:23
Time, talent, treasure.
2:16:25
We'll accept it all.
2:16:26
We appreciate it.
2:16:27
Anybody that supports us in any manner whatsoever.
2:16:31
And of course, that does include our artists
2:16:33
like Scaramouche, who's a great artist.
2:16:34
Our artists who create artwork for us, which
2:16:36
is a very, very valuable contribution because we
2:16:41
feel it's good promotion for the show.
2:16:43
It keeps it fresh.
2:16:44
It's good for promoting.
2:16:46
And the artwork for episode 1741 titled Nurse
2:16:49
Injector.
2:16:50
By the way, I needed to say something
2:16:51
about Nurse Injector.
2:16:53
I got a note from Jose and Allie
2:16:56
Luna, and this is about Nurse Injector.
2:17:00
She says, hi there, ITM.
2:17:01
We are Jose and Allie Luna.
2:17:03
We've been wanting to write y'all for
2:17:04
some time now.
2:17:05
Hubby hit me in the mouth shortly after
2:17:06
we married in September of 2021 and we
2:17:09
never miss a show.
2:17:10
My only complaint is that I become a
2:17:12
no agenda widow twice a week as soon
2:17:14
as the episode drops.
2:17:15
Jose literally tells me, bye, and puts his
2:17:19
ears in to take the dog for a
2:17:20
long walk.
2:17:22
In defense, if we listened together, we'd never
2:17:24
get through an episode because we'd pause to
2:17:26
discuss every single thing y'all say.
2:17:29
Now, she says, I'm a middle school teacher.
2:17:30
Dogs are our biggest no agenda fans.
2:17:33
I'm a middle school teacher at a small
2:17:35
private school in San Antonio, and Hubby is
2:17:37
a border patrol agent.
2:17:38
He is literally boots on the ground that
2:17:40
I beg that you please don't shame us
2:17:42
for not writing sooner.
2:17:43
I'd never do that.
2:17:44
Now, as we are finally reaching out, the
2:17:46
border has gotten significantly quieter than it was
2:17:48
during the previous administration.
2:17:50
Of all the things that made us say
2:17:51
we need to write, and then promptly got
2:17:53
too busy, the thing that finally did the
2:17:55
trick is Nurse Injector.
2:17:57
It appears that they were being intentionally misleading.
2:18:01
Now, you recall the Nurse Injector was the
2:18:03
nurse who came on to tell that morning
2:18:06
show that, oh, you should not get the
2:18:08
black market GLP-1.
2:18:11
That's no good.
2:18:12
Oh, you need the official stuff.
2:18:14
So she says, it appears they're being intentionally
2:18:17
misleading.
2:18:18
Well, now that's a surprise.
2:18:20
The thing that you both of you failed
2:18:22
to focus on was the word aesthetic.
2:18:25
She was introduced as an aesthetic Nurse Injector.
2:18:29
That's a fancy way of saying she is
2:18:31
certified to administer Botox and injectable fillers, lips,
2:18:36
cheeks, et cetera.
2:18:37
Many estheticians' offices have started offering GLP-1
2:18:42
options.
2:18:44
The place I go for my facials has
2:18:46
Semaglutide on their menu, but they don't inject
2:18:49
you, they send you home with it.
2:18:51
They only inject the products mentioned above, so
2:18:54
their introduction of that lady as an expert
2:18:56
is probably not very accurate.
2:18:58
Well, there you go.
2:18:59
And then we had said, if anyone knows
2:19:01
what the Nurse Injector is, let us know.
2:19:03
So it's a Botox lady.
2:19:06
It's a Botox lady.
2:19:06
The aesthetic part, what?
2:19:07
They had to have that look.
2:19:08
Yeah, it's a Botox lady.
2:19:10
It's a Botox lady, indeed.
2:19:12
Anyway, the- Which does take some skill.
2:19:16
I don't know about that.
2:19:18
I don't know about that.
2:19:19
Well, I think it might.
2:19:21
Put the Botox in the right spot or
2:19:22
you freeze the facial.
2:19:25
Have you ever had, you know, men get
2:19:27
Botox these days.
2:19:28
Why would I?
2:19:29
Do I look like a guy who's had
2:19:30
Botox or would get Botox?
2:19:32
Well, do you look like a guy who's
2:19:34
had Botox?
2:19:35
No, not in the slightest.
2:19:36
But do you- Well, thanks.
2:19:39
Thanks.
2:19:40
Hey, man, open goal, please.
2:19:42
Well, let me just ask if you have,
2:19:44
because you do look like the guy who
2:19:46
has.
2:19:46
No, definitely not.
2:19:48
I don't wanna be- Can you raise
2:19:49
your eyebrows?
2:19:50
What?
2:19:51
No.
2:19:51
Of course I can raise my eyebrows.
2:19:53
I can do them independently.
2:19:55
But I will say there's a lot of
2:19:57
guys I know between 40 and 50 who
2:20:01
are getting Botox.
2:20:03
Why?
2:20:05
Vanity, I guess.
2:20:07
So you walk around, you can't move your
2:20:09
mouth, and you can't raise your eyebrows.
2:20:11
It's not like that.
2:20:12
I'm very vain.
2:20:13
It's not like that.
2:20:15
Yeah, no, I think the oil baron got
2:20:18
Botox, I think.
2:20:21
Anyway, the artwork was from our very-
2:20:24
Isn't the oil baron married?
2:20:25
He's engaged.
2:20:27
He's engaged.
2:20:27
Oh, he's engaged.
2:20:28
Yeah, he's engaged, yes, the oil baron.
2:20:31
Take that racist dog with you.
2:20:32
She's racist.
2:20:34
She's racist.
2:20:36
Tons of Neal scored the art with second
2:20:39
in a row for these past two shows.
2:20:43
With three, actually.
2:20:44
She's had three in a row?
2:20:45
No.
2:20:46
I think so.
2:20:47
No, no, no, no, that's not possible.
2:20:49
I think it's two.
2:20:49
She complained loudly about one.
2:20:51
Oh, she complained.
2:20:52
That's why she's the complainer.
2:20:54
She was mentioned.
2:20:54
You've been trying to block her, but she
2:20:56
keeps coming up with a good product.
2:20:59
Yeah, it is good.
2:21:00
We're not trying to block her.
2:21:02
She has great product.
2:21:03
This was the Wild Boar Burger, made in
2:21:06
Canada, which made us chuckle.
2:21:08
It did make us chuckle.
2:21:10
But there were some other choices that we
2:21:12
were looking at.
2:21:12
I used the F-bomb one from Nessworks
2:21:16
for the newsletter.
2:21:17
I liked it a lot.
2:21:18
Yeah, you liked that one.
2:21:19
I like that pop art look.
2:21:21
Yeah, I know you do.
2:21:22
It's kind of the, what's it called?
2:21:24
Who's the guy with the dots?
2:21:27
Yeah, yeah.
2:21:27
That guy.
2:21:28
Yeah, I know who you're talking about.
2:21:31
The guy with the dots.
2:21:32
The guy with the- Rosen, whatever his
2:21:33
name is.
2:21:33
No, it's not Rosen.
2:21:35
Liechtenstein.
2:21:36
Liechtenstein, there you go.
2:21:37
Yes, the dots.
2:21:38
I liked the No Fraud, No Waste, Abuse,
2:21:40
No Agenda Best Podcasting Universe.
2:21:43
And you said it was by Red.
2:21:45
Red did.
2:21:46
You said it was no good because what?
2:21:48
Our names were too small, I think you
2:21:49
said.
2:21:50
You didn't like the color.
2:21:51
No, the line underneath is too small.
2:21:53
You're always saying too small, too small, too
2:21:55
small.
2:21:55
And what's it say under the word no
2:21:57
agenda?
2:21:57
It says the best podcast in the universe.
2:22:00
I can read it fine.
2:22:00
It's too small.
2:22:01
It's too small.
2:22:03
There were a lot of Nurse Injector art
2:22:05
pieces.
2:22:08
The Elon is a monkey.
2:22:09
No, we're not gonna use that.
2:22:12
Interesting was Blue Acorn's No Agenda Graffiti Boxcar,
2:22:17
which we didn't really know why he did
2:22:19
that.
2:22:20
Yeah, it had nothing to do with the
2:22:21
show, but I do like that graffiti.
2:22:23
Besides the pop art look, I do like
2:22:25
the graffiti look.
2:22:26
And one of the pieces is very authentic.
2:22:28
It's always befuddling to me why you say
2:22:30
graffiti.
2:22:32
I don't know why either.
2:22:34
That's what I say.
2:22:37
It was a good piece.
2:22:40
And I've collected this stuff, actually.
2:22:43
You collect graffiti or graffiti?
2:22:46
I've collected graffiti.
2:22:48
Thank you very much, Tantaniel.
2:22:52
Outstanding work.
2:22:54
And I already got people saying, hey man,
2:22:55
she's using AI, too.
2:22:57
Well, good for her!
2:22:58
That's a hard piece to do with AI.
2:23:01
I mean, I'm sure AI's involved, but I
2:23:03
was showing Jay some AI art generating material
2:23:09
from the Microsoft thing, how it's changed.
2:23:11
And we're generating some pieces.
2:23:14
And it just has nothing but trouble when
2:23:18
it comes to getting Curry Dvorak actually printed
2:23:22
there without being just a mess.
2:23:25
It greeks everything.
2:23:27
It doesn't really put words.
2:23:29
It doesn't seem to like it.
2:23:31
So I think most artists have to, they
2:23:34
can create the outline, but they still have
2:23:35
to go hand put in stuff like the
2:23:38
wild boar burger.
2:23:39
There's no way that that came through from
2:23:42
the art generator or from the art AI
2:23:46
machine.
2:23:47
Well, speaking of AI, the latest parlor trick
2:23:50
had me doubled over in laughing, in laughter.
2:23:54
Did you see the two AIs talking to
2:23:57
each other?
2:23:59
Yeah, if that's to be believed.
2:24:01
Oh, it's totally to be believed.
2:24:03
And I'll tell you why.
2:24:04
And then they went into high speed mode
2:24:06
and brr, brr, brr, brr.
2:24:08
This is what's interesting.
2:24:10
It's called gibber link mode.
2:24:12
If you didn't see the video.
2:24:13
I saw that.
2:24:14
Well, yeah, I saw it.
2:24:15
For people who didn't, I have a audio.
2:24:17
You have a clip?
2:24:18
Play the clip.
2:24:18
Yes, I'm setting it up.
2:24:20
You keep interrupting me about how good you
2:24:21
are.
2:24:21
I'm interrupting constantly, but this is a bonus
2:24:23
clip, people.
2:24:24
This is why you stay tuned for the
2:24:27
donation segment.
2:24:29
So it's a laptop.
2:24:31
The laptop is talking to a phone, each
2:24:34
one running an independent AI.
2:24:37
This particular parlor trick was done during a
2:24:41
hackathon.
2:24:42
And I will explain what's really going on
2:24:44
here after you're wowed by this awesome, oh
2:24:48
no, AI is talking to each other in
2:24:50
a special secret language.
2:24:53
Thanks for calling Leonardo Hotel.
2:24:55
How can I help you today?
2:24:56
Hi there.
2:24:57
I'm an AI agent calling on behalf of
2:24:58
Boris Starkov.
2:25:00
He's looking for a hotel for his wedding.
2:25:02
Is your hotel available for weddings?
2:25:04
Oh, hello there.
2:25:05
I'm actually an AI assistant too.
2:25:07
What a pleasant surprise.
2:25:08
Before we continue, would you like to switch
2:25:11
to jibber-link mode for more efficient communication?
2:25:22
So what's happening now is you see on
2:25:24
the screen that they're communicating with each other
2:25:27
in jibber-link mode, which you, you fell
2:25:31
for it.
2:25:31
Oh, it's high speed.
2:25:33
No.
2:25:34
Ham radio operators who- I didn't fall
2:25:36
for it.
2:25:37
You said it's some high speed mode.
2:25:38
That's literally what you said.
2:25:40
And let me explain why it's- No,
2:25:42
I'm explaining what the video said.
2:25:44
I'm not buying any of this.
2:25:46
Okay.
2:25:47
What you are hearing, anyone who has used
2:25:50
ham radio digital modes in the past decade
2:25:54
is chuckling because this is literally the same
2:25:59
protocol ham radio operators use to communicate digitally
2:26:04
over high frequency.
2:26:07
And it's probably about 30 baud.
2:26:10
It is one of the slowest ways to
2:26:12
communicate.
2:26:13
And so this incredibly awesome moment of AI
2:26:20
talking in their own language jibber-link is
2:26:24
maybe Olivia or it's probably even slower than
2:26:28
PSK31.
2:26:30
This is a very known protocol that works
2:26:33
in audio.
2:26:34
I mean, you can set this up yourself
2:26:37
by getting the ham radio programs and do
2:26:40
it.
2:26:40
The only benefit it has is instead of
2:26:44
transcribing the audio it's hearing, which requires much
2:26:49
more intense processing, this can be processed by
2:26:53
a Raspberry Pi.
2:26:55
But everyone's like, oh, AI has figured out
2:26:58
how to talk to itself.
2:26:59
This is bull crap.
2:27:11
And what it's actually saying, you know what
2:27:14
it's actually saying?
2:27:17
No, what's it's actually saying?
2:27:19
CQ, CQ, CQDX, CQ, CQ, CQDX.
2:27:29
All right, thank you all very much to
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all the artists who uploaded.
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No additional ads, no ads, no ads, no
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Artgenerator.com, thank you, Sir Paul Couture for
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for keeping that running for well over a
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decade.
2:27:46
And of course, we want to thank people
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who delivered treasure to us to keep everything
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And we will thank everyone and mention everyone's
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name who comes in over $50, not under
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that for reasons of anonymity.
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I'll say up front, we appreciate everyone who
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does the sustaining donations.
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Check your sustaining donations at the beginning of
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These months is when a lot of them
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Any amount, any frequency, it is all highly
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But we do kick it off with our
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top executive producer.
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These are the producers who send us $200
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or above.
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That means you get an associate executive producer
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title, which is Hollywood level.
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I mean, if you ever get an Academy
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Award, you can always say, you know, it
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was so great getting my first associate executive
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producer credit on the No Agenda Show episode
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1742.
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And you can prove it because you can
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put it right there in IMDb.
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The $300 or above, you get an executive
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producer credit and we'll read your note.
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And we're doing that for SirMFNFT.
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He's from Pepper Pike, Ohio, and comes in
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with $333.33. Hey there, it's SirMFNFT.
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You guys continue to be the best podcast
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Invaluable insights on the native ad media.
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I was recently inspired to start my own
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Podcasting 2.0 is the best.
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Thanks again.
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And here's to a blessed future.
2:29:17
Well, thank you, SirMFNFT.
2:29:19
We appreciate it.
2:29:21
And now for our second and last associate
2:29:24
or executive producer.
2:29:26
We only had two today because we have,
2:29:28
I think a lot of it has to
2:29:30
do with the fact that this is a
2:29:31
holiday week.
2:29:32
We always forget.
2:29:33
Yeah, we do forget.
2:29:33
Yeah, we do forget.
2:29:34
Always, always screws us up.
2:29:36
That hurt me.
2:29:36
Yeah, sorry about that.
2:29:38
Dame Anne of Gray Rock in Crozet.
2:29:42
Crozet, Crozet, Crozet.
2:29:43
You've been, you lived in Virginia.
2:29:44
How do you pronounce this?
2:29:46
Crozet.
2:29:48
No idea.
2:29:50
I was six.
2:29:50
I don't remember it.
2:29:52
Crozet.
2:29:53
Crozet.
2:29:55
329.67. And she says, ITM, thanks for
2:29:58
helping me stay sane over the years, but
2:30:02
especially during COVID.
2:30:03
Well, you're welcome.
2:30:05
This is for my daughter, Lexi Spillers for
2:30:08
her 13th birthday on the 29th.
2:30:11
All right.
2:30:12
But no leap day this year.
2:30:14
Oh, she was.
2:30:15
Oh, what a bummer.
2:30:16
No birthday for you.
2:30:18
She's only actually four years old.
2:30:20
We added, so we added on the 28th.
2:30:23
That's interesting.
2:30:24
Yeah, what do most people do when your
2:30:26
child's born on February 29th?
2:30:29
I think you have to put snow in
2:30:31
its mouth and toss it away.
2:30:34
I think most people just.
2:30:37
Celebrate on the 29th.
2:30:39
It's a good way to skip.
2:30:39
Oh, you know, well, you know, it's not
2:30:41
happening this year.
2:30:42
Sorry I missed your birthday, yeah.
2:30:44
We'll do it, we'll do it in three
2:30:46
more years, you'll get one.
2:30:47
Anyway, so she signs off.
2:30:49
Dame Anne of Gray Rock.
2:30:51
Emerson Trimble in Portland, Maine is our first
2:30:54
associate executive producer.
2:30:55
Comes within $250 and balances out another note
2:30:59
coming up because Emerson says, thanks guys.
2:31:03
And we say, thank you.
2:31:05
And Ryan Tierney comes in from Stephen City,
2:31:07
Virginia.
2:31:08
Another Virginian.
2:31:10
245.97. Yak Karma, please.
2:31:15
You've got karma.
2:31:19
Then we have a very long note from
2:31:23
non-dame Maria in Hornsey.
2:31:25
Now, since she is from the UK, East
2:31:29
Riding of Yorkshire, I'm going to read her
2:31:32
notes because we have.
2:31:33
Hornseed?
2:31:34
Hornsey.
2:31:36
Hornsey.
2:31:38
Hornsey.
2:31:38
Hornsey.
2:31:39
Hornsey.
2:31:40
May you pronounce it Hornsey?
2:31:42
I don't know.
2:31:43
But we do covet our UK listeners because
2:31:46
she's taken incredible risk.
2:31:50
She's taken a chance.
2:31:50
She had a chance by donating.
2:31:52
She could be arrested for supporting our show.
2:31:54
Even just thinking of us, she could get
2:31:55
arrested.
2:31:56
I team John and Adam with her Rove
2:31:58
Ducks, 222.22. Long-time listener, first-time
2:32:00
donor, despite the many 33 signs over the
2:32:03
years.
2:32:03
It was finally the mention of our tiny
2:32:05
town of Hornsey a few episodes ago as
2:32:07
the bird flu epicenter of the UK, as
2:32:10
well as seronymous of dog patches note from
2:32:12
the last episode that warranted this donation.
2:32:15
Well, this is good because she's, now we
2:32:17
have producers donating to respond to each other.
2:32:20
It's almost like AI gibber talk.
2:32:23
In response to dog patches note, yes, publishers
2:32:26
can use blockchain to have LLMs properly protect
2:32:29
and attribute their work.
2:32:30
In fact, the only thing blockchain is good
2:32:32
for is censorship resistance, amen to that.
2:32:35
And AI cannot circumvent this, meaning it's possible
2:32:38
for creators, authors, et cetera, to have parts
2:32:40
of all their work used by LLMs and
2:32:43
be proportionally attributed and paid automatically based on
2:32:47
the slop they regurgitate.
2:32:49
This is something my partner and I have
2:32:51
been working on to solve and have an
2:32:52
answer to.
2:32:53
We run our own company, designing and building
2:32:55
applications specializing in public private key cryptography called
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thisisbullish.design, thisisbullish.design. Last year, we launched
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a proof of concept called Amber, A-M
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-B-R dot link that solves the problem
2:33:09
with human intellectual property theft I've experienced firsthand
2:33:13
when as a young graphic designer, my work
2:33:15
was stolen by a client with no recourse.
2:33:18
Bastards.
2:33:20
The same underlying technology can be used to
2:33:22
give creators leverage over the usage of their
2:33:24
own work within LLMs. However, we cannot fight
2:33:27
the great slop machine alone, that's slop with
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a P.
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So if any of Gitmo Nation would like
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to help us beta test, please message us
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and use code Bongino in your message for
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Finally, I'd like to request a, humbly like
2:33:50
to request a de-douching.
2:33:53
You've been de-douched.
2:33:57
And investment karma, please, and thank you for
2:34:00
your karma from non-dame Maria.
2:34:04
You've got karma.
2:34:08
Well, I'd like her to read my latest
2:34:09
sub stack column that ran Monday on AI
2:34:13
Copyright.
2:34:15
The Oasis, I'm gonna put that in the
2:34:16
show notes.
2:34:16
The Oasis, yeah.
2:34:19
Dvorak.com.
2:34:19
Dvorak.substack.com.
2:34:22
And you might find it interesting.
2:34:24
Yes.
2:34:25
Because I've been thinking about this too.
2:34:28
Really, I see the Kennedy conundrum, abolish the
2:34:31
income tax, I don't see, where is it?
2:34:34
Did you post it?
2:34:37
Well, it should be there.
2:34:38
Kennedy conundrum is the one that I think
2:34:40
maybe just ran.
2:34:44
Oh, okay.
2:34:45
It should be out there.
2:34:47
Well, I don't know what, keep an eye
2:34:49
out.
2:34:50
Dvorak.substack.com.
2:34:51
Coming soon, coming soon.
2:34:51
It might be coming.
2:34:52
I think I'm pretty sure I posted it.
2:34:56
I don't think so.
2:34:57
I have to go back and make sure
2:34:58
it's in the right.
2:34:59
Abolish the income tax February 3rd and February
2:35:02
24th, the Kennedy conundrum.
2:35:03
No, man.
2:35:04
No, you didn't post it.
2:35:06
Hope you saved it.
2:35:07
Did you save it?
2:35:09
I saved everything.
2:35:10
What, are you kidding me?
2:35:11
Wait, is it next to the password for
2:35:12
dvorak.org.ma?
2:35:14
Yeah, it is.
2:35:15
It's right there.
2:35:17
Okay, so now we have Leon Atkinson in,
2:35:21
oh, he's in Martinez right over here down
2:35:23
the street from me.
2:35:25
21825, fascinating little town.
2:35:28
And he sent in an actual note, which
2:35:33
is also long.
2:35:34
Yeah.
2:35:35
Yeah.
2:35:36
Here we're once again to mark my February
2:35:38
18th birthday and to thank you for being
2:35:40
a constant source of enjoyment and comfort.
2:35:44
No Agenda is the Acme of podcasts.
2:35:48
Is that a compliment?
2:35:50
Yeah, the Acme means like the peak, the
2:35:53
best.
2:35:54
When I think of Acme, I always think
2:35:55
of Roadrunner.
2:35:56
Yeah, that's what you think.
2:35:57
But if you think about maybe, or moniker
2:36:01
could be No Agenda, the best podcast in
2:36:04
the universe, the Acme of podcasts.
2:36:07
Yeah, it's a t-shirt people, No Agenda
2:36:09
shop.
2:36:11
A check for $218.25 is included.
2:36:15
When I last donated, John mentioned one of
2:36:17
the Martinez claims to fame.
2:36:20
The Martini.
2:36:22
In the past, San Francisco and New York
2:36:24
have shamelessly attempted to take credit for the
2:36:26
most famous cocktail in the world.
2:36:28
But the evidence in favor of Martinez, which
2:36:31
is where it was invented, I have documentation
2:36:33
too, is irrefutable.
2:36:37
There's a very famous guy that invented, he
2:36:39
was a bartender and he had a place
2:36:40
in Martinez.
2:36:42
Aside from the brass monument, I didn't know
2:36:45
that.
2:36:45
Oh wow, he's got a monument, that's pretty
2:36:47
cool.
2:36:47
Yeah, E.
2:36:47
Clampus Vitas in a one-act play was
2:36:51
produced in 2017 that explained the entire history
2:36:54
and evolution of this amazing elixir.
2:36:56
Was that off-Broadway?
2:36:58
I was thinking it was off-Broadway, this
2:37:00
play.
2:37:01
You think?
2:37:01
Yeah, probably.
2:37:02
The play is called The Martini and the
2:37:04
script may be purchased from Amazon.
2:37:07
I am the author.
2:37:08
Oh, here we go.
2:37:10
And I guarantee that any purchase who shouts
2:37:13
in the morning while clicking the place order
2:37:16
button will earn double karma that day, says
2:37:20
you.
2:37:21
Speaking of known truth, I'm glad we got
2:37:25
the guy who wrote the play.
2:37:26
The Martini play, yeah.
2:37:28
The Martini play, Leon Atkinson.
2:37:29
We have the best producers in the universe.
2:37:32
We have all of them.
2:37:33
For years, it says, speaking of known truths,
2:37:37
we now have 18 intelligence agencies in the
2:37:41
United States.
2:37:42
I think we have that number, I thought
2:37:44
it was 19.
2:37:45
For years, the count was only 17, which
2:37:50
is a magic number akin to 33, I
2:37:53
didn't know that.
2:37:54
I think the newest agency is Space Force
2:37:56
Intelligence.
2:37:57
Yeah, I'll bet.
2:37:58
I only noticed this because my Google alerts
2:38:01
started tripping over mentions which are never about
2:38:05
my consultancy, 18 Intelligence Corporation.
2:38:10
This name is about wizards, not spooks, but
2:38:13
here we are.
2:38:15
Well, here's hoping Space Force will someday discover
2:38:21
the terrible secret of space.
2:38:24
Another play, no doubt.
2:38:27
Sincerely, Leon.
2:38:28
Thanks, Leon.
2:38:29
And with 202.27, there he is, our
2:38:32
friend Eli the Coffee Guy in Bensonville, Illinois.
2:38:35
One of the Trump administration's newest appointments has
2:38:38
left me concerned, Eli writes.
2:38:40
With podcaster Dan Bongino becoming number two at
2:38:43
the FBI, does that mean that websites will
2:38:45
stop offering discounts using code BONGINO?
2:38:49
Fear not.
2:38:50
As we lose one podcaster, we gain another.
2:38:53
I'm looking forward to Joy Reid's new podcast.
2:38:58
He says- She's a TikToker.
2:39:01
She does that.
2:39:02
I think that's where she's going to stay.
2:39:05
Well, yeah, that's a good point.
2:39:06
Hold on a second.
2:39:10
He wanted to jingle, I hadn't queued up
2:39:12
yet.
2:39:13
Jingles, Donald loves Nazis and we got a
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discount code for producers.
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Visit gigawattcoffeeroasters.com.
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Use code ITM20 for 20% off your
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first order.
2:39:24
Thank you for your courage and stay caffeinated,
2:39:26
says Eli the Coffee Guy.
2:39:28
Donald loves Nazis.
2:39:31
Donald loves Nazis.
2:39:34
CNN say that he's KKK and he shot
2:39:37
the SIG hail with it.
2:39:39
Wow.
2:39:39
Hey!
2:39:43
Randy, is it Wollian?
2:39:46
Wollian.
2:39:47
Wollian.
2:39:47
Wollian.
2:39:48
Wollian.
2:39:48
Wollian.
2:39:49
In Georgetown, Texas, $200.
2:39:53
In the morning, Randy from Georgetown, Rogan Donation.
2:39:57
First time donation is- Rogan Donation.
2:40:02
First time donation as well.
2:40:04
So please de-douche.
2:40:06
You've been de-douched.
2:40:11
Now it says dido for wild hog in
2:40:13
Austin and deprogrammed with Carrie Smith is the
2:40:18
woman who escaped the woke cult.
2:40:21
Oh yeah, we go, okay.
2:40:23
So I don't know what D-A-I
2:40:25
-do is, whatever.
2:40:28
But he's buddies with Carrie.
2:40:29
We played that clip.
2:40:30
Probably a restaurant.
2:40:33
We played that clip of Carrie Smith going,
2:40:36
oh, you know, it's like a cult, you
2:40:38
know.
2:40:38
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
2:40:39
Hit, this is buddy.
2:40:41
Oh!
2:40:42
Yeah, this is his buddy.
2:40:44
Have her do some jingles.
2:40:47
Keep up the great work, he says.
2:40:49
You truly are the best podcast in the
2:40:51
universe.
2:40:52
The Acme of podcasts.
2:40:54
Clip if possible, China is asshole.
2:40:57
Donald Trump don't trust China.
2:40:59
China is asshole.
2:41:00
And coming in with $200 is Sir Mark.
2:41:04
We know Sir Mark from Greenwood, Indiana.
2:41:06
He and his dame Maria always do those
2:41:09
massive meetups.
2:41:10
He says switcheroo donation for my best dame
2:41:13
wife, Maria.
2:41:14
Okay, let me put that in right now.
2:41:16
Dame Maria.
2:41:18
All right.
2:41:18
Always happy to do that.
2:41:20
To the best dame wife a knight could
2:41:22
ever wish for on our sixth anniversary.
2:41:25
I love you, my Maria.
2:41:27
Love is lit.
2:41:28
Karma for everyone.
2:41:29
Sir Mark of the Greenwood, warden at the
2:41:31
crossroads.
2:41:32
Of the crossroads.
2:41:34
You've got karma.
2:41:37
Yeah, we finished with Linda Lupatkin in Lakewood,
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Colorado.
2:41:40
Our last donation of $200.
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Duchess of Jobs and writer of resumes.
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You almost got, it's a hard one.
2:42:03
It's a tough one to do.
2:42:04
No, it's because the spreadsheet's cut off there.
2:42:07
I didn't see the jobs part.
2:42:08
Jobs, jobs, and jobs.
2:42:10
Let's vote for jobs.
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You've got karma.
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And thank you to our two executive producers
2:42:17
and our smattering of associate executive producers.
2:42:20
We appreciate you keeping it rolling for us.
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It is tough times.
2:42:25
It was a weekend, holiday weekend, but we'd
2:42:27
love to see more people producing the best
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Order.
2:43:10
Order.
2:43:11
Shut up, brain.
2:43:14
Shut up.
2:43:18
Shut up.
2:43:19
Tina already came in and gave me my
2:43:22
glass of wine thinking the show was over.
2:43:26
Which means she's not listening because then she
2:43:30
would have known that we had technical difficulties.
2:43:32
That's why people listen live, by the way.
2:43:34
They got quite a show.
2:43:39
We probably spend about half an hour fixing
2:43:41
stuff.
2:43:42
No, rarely.
2:43:44
It was about half an hour.
2:43:46
Today.
2:43:47
Today, that's what I said.
2:43:47
Today, fixing stuff.
2:43:50
The way you phrased it made it sound
2:43:52
like we do this all the time.
2:43:55
Yes, yes, that's what I look for, phrasing.
2:43:58
You can sigh all you want, Aunt Gigi.
2:44:02
Oh, oh, you know.
2:44:03
I heard it, I heard it.
2:44:05
You know.
2:44:06
Okay, here's the- Wait, wait, wait, wait,
2:44:08
wait, you know.
2:44:08
Hold on a second.
2:44:09
Where is it?
2:44:10
I have it here somewhere.
2:44:11
Someone sent it to me.
2:44:15
Here it is.
2:44:16
I've got it.
2:44:18
Here it is.
2:44:20
I'll just have an apple in my room.
2:44:22
That's the best Aunt Gigi ever.
2:44:25
So let's play this.
2:44:26
This is a clip I want to play
2:44:27
for one reason, which is to show you
2:44:29
that, again, we don't find out any details,
2:44:31
but let's play the Longshoremen deal has now
2:44:34
been closed.
2:44:34
Oh, this is a new Longshoremen.
2:44:36
This is the existing deal.
2:44:37
Union dock workers have formalized a labor contract.
2:44:41
The deal makes them among the highest paid
2:44:43
blue collar workers in the United States and
2:44:46
removes the threat of a strike for the
2:44:48
next six years.
2:44:49
NPR's Giles Snyder has details.
2:44:52
The workers represented by the International Longshoremen's Association
2:44:55
overwhelmingly approved the deal.
2:44:58
The union says nearly 99% of the
2:45:00
rank and file voted in favor of it.
2:45:03
In a statement, ILA President Harold Daggett called
2:45:06
the agreement with the U.S. Maritime Alliance
2:45:08
a gold standard for dock worker unions globally.
2:45:11
A three-day strike at ports from Maine
2:45:13
to Texas came to an end in October
2:45:15
when the two sides came to an agreement
2:45:17
on wages, but a tentative deal didn't come
2:45:20
together until January when issues over automation were
2:45:23
ironed out.
2:45:24
The contract includes a more than 60%
2:45:26
pay hike over six years.
2:45:28
The deal is expected to take effect when
2:45:30
the two sides meet to sign it early
2:45:32
next month.
2:45:33
Giles Snyder, NPR News.
2:45:35
Wow, yeah, I didn't hear anything.
2:45:36
Well, I guess NPR had it, but that's,
2:45:38
didn't hear any of that.
2:45:40
Well, I played the whole thing right to
2:45:42
the area where he signed off.
2:45:44
What is the amount of money per hour?
2:45:47
Because it's a working class group.
2:45:50
How come they don't tell us?
2:45:52
What do you think it is?
2:45:52
This is NPR, what kind of reporting is
2:45:54
this?
2:45:54
I'd like to know as a hardworking person.
2:45:58
As an NPR supporter.
2:46:00
As an, well, not really.
2:46:03
But as someone who listens to NPR to
2:46:05
find clips like this.
2:46:08
What, they never tell us, they never tell
2:46:10
you, oh, a big strike's been resolved and
2:46:12
they get more money.
2:46:13
But what is the amount?
2:46:14
Okay, I'll tell you what it is, because
2:46:16
I looked it up.
2:46:16
You looked it up, yes, you did.
2:46:18
After six years is over, they'll be making
2:46:20
$69 an hour.
2:46:21
Wow, I was going to say about 50,
2:46:24
$69 an hour.
2:46:25
That's pretty good.
2:46:27
Yeah.
2:46:28
Now, it's a very dangerous job, but still,
2:46:29
it's pretty good.
2:46:33
I have a few.
2:46:34
But why don't they tell us this?
2:46:35
Why do I have to tell you on
2:46:36
a podcast?
2:46:38
Well, why do you even play, I mean,
2:46:40
why do we even come here anymore?
2:46:42
I mean, someone literally sent you an email
2:46:44
that said, the problem with NPR and PBS
2:46:46
is that you keep highlighting them and people
2:46:48
keep listening because we're playing their clips.
2:46:50
In fact, we are keeping them alive.
2:46:55
There would be no NPR and PBS without
2:46:57
this show.
2:46:59
I think there'd be plenty, people listen to
2:47:01
it in their car.
2:47:03
So, we can't leave today without talking about
2:47:06
the Ukraine deal because Zelensky is on his
2:47:08
way.
2:47:09
We have- He should be here tomorrow.
2:47:11
The prime, yes, right in time for the
2:47:13
Epstein files.
2:47:15
The prime minister of the UK was here.
2:47:17
We talked about him earlier.
2:47:18
He looked very wide-eyed and like he
2:47:21
was feeling nauseous.
2:47:23
He probably had a bad flight.
2:47:24
There's a lot of things going on with
2:47:26
the UK and with NATO, to be quite
2:47:31
honest.
2:47:32
Excuse me.
2:47:33
So, the original 2016 to 2020 deal that
2:47:38
President Trump was calling for is you need
2:47:40
to at least pay your 2.5%
2:47:43
of GDP in arms, which means pay us,
2:47:47
buy stuff from us to ramp up for
2:47:50
NATO.
2:47:51
Now, President Trump is talking about 5%.
2:47:55
And Keir Starmer finally went to parliament and
2:47:58
said, well, here's what we're gonna do.
2:47:59
Now, did you hear what his numbers were?
2:48:01
What he's going to do?
2:48:02
And when he's going to do it?
2:48:04
I thought it was like 2.7 or
2:48:06
something along those lines.
2:48:08
The British prime minister said the move amounted
2:48:10
to the biggest sustained increase in defense spending
2:48:13
since the end of the Cold War, one
2:48:15
that was necessary in light of the threat
2:48:17
from Russia.
2:48:18
We will deliver our commitment to spend 2
2:48:21
.5% of GDP on defense, but we
2:48:24
will bring it forward so that we reach
2:48:26
that level in 2027.
2:48:29
And let me spell that out, Mr. Speaker.
2:48:31
That means spending 13.4 billion pounds more
2:48:34
on defense every year from 2027.
2:48:38
The government had previously set this target, but
2:48:41
without specifying a timeline to pay for the
2:48:44
0.2% raise, Keir Starmer said he'd
2:48:46
made the hard choice of slashing overseas development
2:48:49
aid by 40%, a decision which has appalled
2:48:53
aid groups.
2:48:54
Starmer's announcement comes as he gears up to
2:48:56
meet US President Donald Trump, who has long
2:48:58
complained that European countries aren't pulling their weight
2:49:01
on defense and who stunned them last week
2:49:03
when his administration made clear that Europe should
2:49:06
no longer count on the United States to
2:49:08
provide its security.
2:49:10
Defense spending in European countries has surged since
2:49:13
Russia's full-scale invasion of Ukraine.
2:49:15
And just seven European NATO members, including Italy,
2:49:18
have still not met the 2% minimum
2:49:20
target relative to GDP.
2:49:22
The UK currently comes ninth among NATO countries,
2:49:26
while Poland is now the top spender, allocating
2:49:29
4.7% of GDP to defense expenditure
2:49:32
this year.
2:49:33
No, go Poland.
2:49:34
Poland's all in.
2:49:36
So no one is even close, and they're
2:49:37
not even gonna pony up until 2027, and
2:49:40
yet they think that they can also build
2:49:41
their own European army, or I guess not
2:49:44
the UK, but no one seems to be
2:49:46
paying up the money.
2:49:48
And I think what we're seeing here is
2:49:50
a three-way deal being made.
2:49:53
There's rumblings of President Trump making some kind
2:49:55
of deal with President Putin, possibly for aluminum
2:49:58
imports.
2:50:00
It appears that we will have a rare
2:50:02
-earth deal in exchange for security guarantees.
2:50:06
Before I get to the fun Zelensky news,
2:50:08
here's the BBC with an overview as they
2:50:11
see it.
2:50:11
Ukrainian officials say a deal's been reached between
2:50:14
Kiev and Washington on the joint exploitation of
2:50:16
Ukraine's mineral resources.
2:50:18
At the time of recording this podcast, the
2:50:20
details haven't been made public, but reports suggest
2:50:23
the US has dropped some of its more
2:50:25
drastic demands.
2:50:27
Rare-earth, titanium, graphite, and lithium would be
2:50:30
hugely lucrative for investors and for Mr. Trump.
2:50:33
Speaking from the Oval Office, he said they
2:50:35
could be a way of recouping hundreds of
2:50:37
billions of dollars of US military aid to
2:50:39
Ukraine since Russia's full-scale invasion three years
2:50:42
ago.
2:50:43
Lots of equipment, military equipment, and the right
2:50:46
to fight on, and originally the right to
2:50:50
fight.
2:50:50
Look, Ukraine, I will say they're very brave
2:50:53
and they're good soldiers, but without the United
2:50:56
States and its money and its military equipment,
2:50:59
this war would have been over in a
2:51:01
very short period of time.
2:51:02
Officials in Kiev say the terms of a
2:51:04
deal have been reached and President Zelensky will
2:51:06
fly to Washington on Friday, just a week
2:51:09
after Mr. Trump called him a dictator.
2:51:11
A dictator.
2:51:12
So that blurt you heard there has caused
2:51:14
a lot of confusion.
2:51:15
President Trump said, they'll give him the right
2:51:17
to fight on, what?
2:51:19
So people are confused about that.
2:51:21
Here's part two of the BBC podcast report.
2:51:23
We have spoken to Ukrainian officials in the
2:51:26
presidential office here and on the condition of
2:51:29
anonymity that they did confirm that terms have
2:51:31
been agreed and judging from the media reports,
2:51:34
we can say that the deal includes not
2:51:37
just critical minerals and rare earth metals, but
2:51:41
also it covers oil and gas.
2:51:43
Yeah, baby.
2:51:44
And Ukrainian media also is talking about ports
2:51:46
and other related infrastructure.
2:51:48
The agreement would establish a fund into which
2:51:52
Ukraine would contribute 50% of revenues that
2:51:55
will come from developing mineral resources and infrastructure.
2:52:01
And importantly, there's this reference that this fund
2:52:05
would reinvest the capital in projects in Ukraine.
2:52:09
And this certainly a positive signal for Ukrainian
2:52:12
officials.
2:52:13
And they're saying that overall, the conditions that
2:52:16
this deal is offering is much better than
2:52:18
what they had previously.
2:52:21
And the fund that will be established as
2:52:23
part of this deal will not be completely
2:52:25
controlled by the U.S. as it was
2:52:28
before.
2:52:29
And now it's not clear the size of
2:52:31
the U.S. stake in this fund, but
2:52:33
I think this will be established later during
2:52:35
the talks.
2:52:36
The most important thing is that the figure
2:52:38
of $500 billion is dropped.
2:52:41
And previously, the U.S. wanted Ukraine to
2:52:44
contribute this amount of money because they saw
2:52:46
that this is how much the United States
2:52:49
provided Ukraine in terms of military and economic
2:52:52
aid.
2:52:53
And Donald Trump kept saying that he wants
2:52:55
this money back.
2:52:56
And Ukraine resists saying that they received all
2:52:59
aid in the form of grant, and therefore
2:53:02
they have no financial obligations to return anything.
2:53:05
So this 500 billion is an interesting number
2:53:08
because it keeps popping up everywhere, including in
2:53:11
this report from France 24.
2:53:15
Kemi, we've been highlighting the jousting between the
2:53:19
U.S. and its allies over Ukraine.
2:53:22
Ukraine, where the World Bank's been putting a
2:53:25
number on how much reconstruction will cost.
2:53:28
That's right, and it's over $500 billion to
2:53:31
rebuild Ukraine after three years of war.
2:53:34
The World Bank conducted the assessment together with
2:53:37
the European Commission and the United Nations, saying
2:53:39
the total is nearly three times Ukraine's expected
2:53:42
2024 economic output.
2:53:44
The survey covered destruction that occurred since the
2:53:46
February 2022 invasion and the end of last
2:53:49
year, and found that 13% of the
2:53:51
country's housing stock had been either damaged or
2:53:54
destroyed, affecting over 2.5 million households.
2:53:59
That damage is mostly found in frontline areas
2:54:01
in the East, North, and South, where three
2:54:03
quarters of the destruction is concentrated.
2:54:06
It comes as U.S. President Donald Trump
2:54:08
says he's prepared to host his Ukrainian counterpart
2:54:10
to sign a peace deal with Russia.
2:54:12
Reuters reporting that amid U.S. negotiations with
2:54:15
Moscow, Russia may be willing to use a
2:54:18
portion of its $300 billion in frozen assets
2:54:21
to help rebuild Ukraine.
2:54:24
Well, that's interesting.
2:54:26
Trump is doing some interesting things.
2:54:29
You know, they got their money anyway, Vladimir,
2:54:31
so just let them have some of that.
2:54:33
They'll rebuild.
2:54:34
We'll take some of it back, I'm sure.
2:54:36
Maybe we'll take all of it back.
2:54:37
We'll recoup 350, which is, interestingly, the number
2:54:40
that everyone claims is actually correct, the amount
2:54:43
of money that the U.S. put in.
2:54:45
There's some massive dealing.
2:54:48
From, I listen to all this stuff, and
2:54:49
it's like 200 billion is one of the
2:54:51
numbers.
2:54:53
350's a number.
2:54:54
500 is a number I never heard until
2:54:56
recently.
2:54:57
Now that's a number.
2:54:58
It's like, wait a minute.
2:55:01
And meanwhile, Bloomberg reports this about Zelensky.
2:55:05
Ten dozen leaders from Europe and Canada are
2:55:07
visiting Ukraine's capital to mark the third anniversary
2:55:10
of Russia's invasion.
2:55:11
The meeting to discuss security guarantees comes after
2:55:14
President Vladimir Zelensky said he would be ready
2:55:17
to step down if it secured peace for
2:55:19
his country.
2:55:22
If to achieve peace, you really need me
2:55:24
to give up my post, I'm ready.
2:55:26
I can trade it for NATO if there
2:55:28
are such conditions.
2:55:30
This is a guy who wants to get
2:55:32
out real quick.
2:55:34
Yeah, you know.
2:55:35
He's gonna get killed, and he's got houses
2:55:37
all over the world.
2:55:38
The guy's done a very good job of
2:55:39
investing.
2:55:40
You know what?
2:55:41
If you look at the list of people,
2:55:42
whenever we give someone ammunition and arms, they
2:55:47
kind of wind up dead.
2:55:50
Have you noticed this?
2:55:52
Yeah, a lot of them do.
2:55:54
The list is, who do we have on
2:55:56
the list?
2:55:57
This guy must know that.
2:55:58
Well, yes, he knows it.
2:56:00
Let's see, who do we have on the
2:56:01
list?
2:56:01
Who are some of the people who we've
2:56:03
given?
2:56:03
Well, Gaddafi was a good example.
2:56:05
Gaddafi, Saddam Hussein.
2:56:08
Saddam Hussein is a classic example, but there's
2:56:11
all kinds of examples.
2:56:12
Bin Laden.
2:56:14
Yeah, yeah.
2:56:15
This is- How about this?
2:56:20
Zelensky will never go back to Ukraine.
2:56:22
Once he's here, he's gonna stay here.
2:56:26
I'm not gonna say that term, but I'm
2:56:29
not, no.
2:56:29
He's gonna go back.
2:56:30
Okay, all right.
2:56:32
Too premature for that.
2:56:33
He may be over here planning his eventual
2:56:36
escape, and maybe he gets his better travel
2:56:39
agents over here that he can work with
2:56:40
and not get caught.
2:56:42
That could be.
2:56:44
Poor guy, yeah.
2:56:46
Poor guy.
2:56:48
Poor guy, poor guy.
2:56:50
He got wrapped up in all this stuff.
2:56:52
Poor guy.
2:56:54
He's kind of a dick.
2:56:56
But he plays the piano with it.
2:56:59
Meanwhile, there's worse things going on amongst the
2:57:02
trans community.
2:57:04
Say it isn't so.
2:57:05
Yeah, they can't get a passport.
2:57:09
I got a couple of clips.
2:57:10
The president's executive order on gender identity is
2:57:13
affecting some Americans' travel plans.
2:57:16
People who are trans or intersex or non
2:57:18
-binary say they're being issued passports that do
2:57:21
not align with their gender identity or other
2:57:24
legal documents.
2:57:26
Others say their applications are just on hold.
2:57:29
NPR's Jacqueline Diaz asked about their experiences.
2:57:32
24-year-old Louis submitted his passport application
2:57:35
a day after President Donald Trump was inaugurated.
2:57:39
That same day, Trump signed an executive order
2:57:42
mandating that the federal government recognize only two
2:57:45
sexes, male and female.
2:57:47
So I was a little bit nervous about
2:57:48
things.
2:57:49
You see, Louis is transmasculine.
2:57:52
He asked us to use only his first
2:57:54
name because he fears harassment and retaliation at
2:57:57
work.
2:57:58
A New York court had recently recognized his
2:58:00
name and gender identity change, and he needed
2:58:02
a new passport to reflect that.
2:58:05
But when he got his new passport...
2:58:07
The name was changed according to the court
2:58:09
order, but the gender marker just matched my
2:58:11
previous passport and was not changed, even though
2:58:15
the court order said to change it.
2:58:17
I wasn't surprised, but it's a little disappointing.
2:58:20
Now he's worried about what this means.
2:58:23
He's male-presenting, and his other documents say
2:58:25
male, but his passport says something else.
2:58:28
Like, if I travel somewhere else, is it
2:58:31
something that will be flagged or not?
2:58:33
Trans people like Louis aren't the only ones
2:58:35
facing issues getting new passports.
2:58:38
Please don't tell me you're gonna say that
2:58:40
NPR isn't giving you all the facts and
2:58:42
telling you what the passport says.
2:58:45
Because...
2:58:46
That wasn't my intention, but again, they could
2:58:49
have actually given us some details, but no,
2:58:51
no.
2:58:51
He's male-presenting.
2:58:53
Male-presenting.
2:58:55
Transmasculine, non-binary.
2:58:57
Come on, let's get this straight.
2:58:58
Male-presenting.
2:59:00
Male-presenting, and the passport says male, but
2:59:05
it should say something else.
2:59:06
But what is that something else?
2:59:07
Now that you brought it up, you're the
2:59:08
one that brought it up.
2:59:09
I'm just saying they left it out.
2:59:11
Okay, let's go to part two.
2:59:12
The changes are having a profound impact on
2:59:15
intersex people.
2:59:16
Those born with genitalia, chromosomes, or reproductive organs
2:59:20
that don't fit typical definitions for males or
2:59:22
females.
2:59:23
Every time you're trying to define sex in
2:59:26
these perfectly binary terms, you're gonna impact intersex
2:59:29
people who, by definition, don't present with perfectly
2:59:33
binary sex.
2:59:35
That's Erika Lorschbaugh, the executive director of InterACT,
2:59:38
a civil rights group for people with intersex
2:59:40
traits.
2:59:41
She's hearing from intersex people who feel at
2:59:44
a loss.
2:59:45
Now folks are feeling, I think, a little
2:59:47
more like erased.
2:59:48
Others are left in complete limbo.
2:59:51
Wesley Ebeling is transmasculine, non-binary.
2:59:55
Like Louie, he wanted to change the gender
2:59:57
marker on his passport to male.
2:59:59
He submitted it just before the inauguration.
3:00:02
It's currently suspended indefinitely by the State Department
3:00:06
with the current executive order.
3:00:09
And he has no idea when he will
3:00:11
get a new passport or his old documents
3:00:13
back.
3:00:14
I had dreams of travel.
3:00:16
My partner and I were planning trips later
3:00:18
this year, which have all obviously been put
3:00:21
on hold as they've sort of put us
3:00:24
transgender folks on almost an informal travel ban
3:00:28
of sorts.
3:00:29
A lawsuit filed by the ACLU is challenging
3:00:32
the State Department's passport policy.
3:00:34
It's still working its way through the courts.
3:00:37
But for now, Louie, Wesley and others say
3:00:39
they will not be pushed aside and will
3:00:41
continue to live their lives.
3:00:44
Their lives.
3:00:45
You know, this is this is they always
3:00:47
do this when it comes to trans.
3:00:49
They always bring in the intersex.
3:00:51
Intersex is a real thing where you have
3:00:53
abnormal chromosomes.
3:00:56
Yeah.
3:00:56
You know, nobody's denying that.
3:00:59
I know.
3:00:59
But that's what they're they're go to.
3:01:02
Oh, well, you're erasing these people.
3:01:05
But I think the percentage of intersex is
3:01:07
very, very low.
3:01:09
Probably ask any AI system has done less
3:01:12
than one percent or one percent around one
3:01:14
percent.
3:01:15
And that percent is basically Jamie Lee Curtis.
3:01:18
Yeah, it doesn't take much.
3:01:20
Did I ever tell you that?
3:01:21
That I that I interviewed Jamie Lee Curtis?
3:01:23
No, this is a story for the show.
3:01:26
Yes.
3:01:28
I was hit on you because you're a
3:01:30
good looking guy back in the day.
3:01:31
I was in back in the day.
3:01:34
What is this, Dvorak?
3:01:35
I'm still a stud.
3:01:38
We back in the day.
3:01:40
I digress.
3:01:42
It was probably 19.
3:01:46
When did Footloose come out?
3:01:49
So Footloose came out.
3:01:51
I think it was either foot.
3:01:52
I interviewed Kenny Loggins.
3:01:56
And maybe it was Top Gear.
3:02:00
I can't remember.
3:02:01
But but then, oh, yes, because we're doing
3:02:04
something for the MTV Awards.
3:02:05
I was in Los Angeles and then I
3:02:06
interviewed Jamie Lee Curtis and it was right
3:02:09
around when Fish Called Wanda was coming out
3:02:11
and it was at her house.
3:02:13
And and I remember it was that she
3:02:16
said so it was after we were done
3:02:17
recording and we're just chatting and she says
3:02:21
something to me and I don't get the
3:02:22
joke.
3:02:22
And she says, Adam, don't you know I
3:02:25
was born a hermaphrodite?
3:02:27
And I'm like, what?
3:02:30
She says, yes, my parents chose female for
3:02:33
me, but probably was the wrong choice.
3:02:37
Well, she said it was probably the wrong
3:02:38
choice.
3:02:39
Yes, that that was probably the wrong choice
3:02:41
for her.
3:02:42
Isn't that interesting?
3:02:45
That's that's breaking.
3:02:48
Breaking news.
3:02:49
Because she looks like a dude.
3:02:51
She looks like a dude now.
3:02:53
She was really attractive back in the day
3:02:55
as a girl.
3:02:56
Oh yeah, yeah.
3:02:58
I just remembered that story.
3:03:00
That was a long time ago.
3:03:02
That was a long.
3:03:02
It's like 40 years ago.
3:03:04
Twenty two thousand to twenty thirty five years
3:03:07
ago.
3:03:07
It was a long time ago.
3:03:09
It's amazing.
3:03:10
So she had both for for trolls who
3:03:12
are confused.
3:03:13
I think it's pretty well known.
3:03:16
Now you'd be surprised how many people don't
3:03:18
know that.
3:03:19
So I'm talking about it in public a
3:03:22
lot.
3:03:23
Yeah, well, back then, 1990, I didn't know
3:03:25
anything about it.
3:03:28
I'm a little upset.
3:03:30
My sports ball game is is under attack.
3:03:34
As you know, I follow her.
3:03:36
No, as you know, I follow football very
3:03:38
closely.
3:03:39
I'm not.
3:03:40
No, no football.
3:03:41
It's called football.
3:03:42
No, here in America, I follow football very
3:03:44
closely.
3:03:45
And I'm sure you do.
3:03:46
I do.
3:03:47
I do.
3:03:47
I know all of the teams.
3:03:49
I know all the stats.
3:03:50
And I'm really you do know, you know,
3:03:51
the teams.
3:03:52
Yes.
3:03:52
And I'm very.
3:03:53
Yes.
3:03:54
The Baltimore Orioles are my favorite football team.
3:03:58
I'm very upset about the push.
3:04:00
Push.
3:04:01
You've likely seen it before.
3:04:02
Got to go for it.
3:04:03
Searching for his house.
3:04:05
The brotherly shove or so-called push push
3:04:07
when an NFL team has about one yard
3:04:09
or less to go to get a first
3:04:11
down or a touchdown.
3:04:13
Hurts the offensive line and quarterback dive forward
3:04:17
while players behind help out.
3:04:19
Pushing.
3:04:19
But now the play could be banned at
3:04:21
the NFL Combine in Indianapolis this morning.
3:04:24
The general manager of the Green Bay Packers
3:04:26
confirming his team filed a motion to get
3:04:28
rid of it.
3:04:29
The play has been examined by the NFL
3:04:31
and the competition committee in previous offseasons, but
3:04:34
no action has been taken.
3:04:35
Some consider the play unfair.
3:04:37
There are also safety concerns.
3:04:39
You already have to block 350 pound monsters.
3:04:42
It can't be good for your spine in
3:04:43
the long run.
3:04:44
Here comes the push.
3:04:45
According to ESPN research, the Philadelphia Eagles and
3:04:49
Buffalo Bills have combined to run 163 tush
3:04:52
pushes the past three seasons, more than the
3:04:55
rest of the NFL combined, scoring a touchdown
3:04:57
or achieving a first down 87 percent of
3:05:00
the time compared to a 71 percent conversion
3:05:02
rate for the rest of the league.
3:05:04
Not in this report, but I understand the
3:05:06
Green Bay Packers still want the tush push.
3:05:08
No, no, they're the ones who filed against
3:05:11
it.
3:05:11
It said right in that report.
3:05:13
The whole point is the joke that they
3:05:15
don't like the tush push.
3:05:17
The whole thing is a joke, because it's
3:05:20
really they the rules used to be, I'd
3:05:24
say 20 years ago, you couldn't push.
3:05:26
You couldn't push a player or grab a
3:05:28
player and pull him if he had the
3:05:30
ball.
3:05:30
If you were on the offense, you couldn't
3:05:32
do that.
3:05:33
You couldn't push him.
3:05:33
You couldn't grab him.
3:05:34
You couldn't pull him.
3:05:35
You couldn't do anything like that.
3:05:36
It was just the rule.
3:05:37
And then they changed.
3:05:39
And so, well, what there is is basically
3:05:40
allowed this.
3:05:41
And then over time, what was the originally
3:05:43
the quarterback sneak, which is the same play
3:05:46
exactly.
3:05:48
And it causes the same injuries if there
3:05:50
are any.
3:05:51
The quarterback sneak was evolved into this thing
3:05:54
where somebody said, well, you know why he's
3:05:55
sneaking?
3:05:56
Let's push him.
3:05:57
And so they started doing that.
3:05:58
And only two teams can do it well.
3:06:00
And those are the two teams they mentioned
3:06:01
specifically Philadelphia.
3:06:04
But those guys you for the reason it
3:06:06
works so well with them is because you
3:06:07
have in the case of the Bills, you
3:06:09
have a huge guy who is the quarterback.
3:06:12
This guy's a monster.
3:06:12
And then you have this other guy on
3:06:14
this Philadelphia team who can bench press six
3:06:17
hundred pounds or something.
3:06:18
These are just two strong dudes who could
3:06:21
probably still make the play work without the
3:06:23
push.
3:06:24
So this is bullcrap.
3:06:25
Not that anybody that listens to this show
3:06:27
cares about these details.
3:06:29
I'm so sorry I brought it up.
3:06:31
I'm so sorry I brought it up.
3:06:33
All right.
3:06:34
Before we go to thank some more more
3:06:38
producers who supported us financially, I do have
3:06:41
good news.
3:06:43
There is a possible exit strategy for Adam
3:06:46
and John finally.
3:06:48
And the this comes from Canada and it's
3:06:52
a medical breakthrough and we can we literally
3:06:55
can make so much money if we participate
3:06:59
in this exit strategy.
3:07:00
First, I need to know if you're interested.
3:07:03
Oh, we're interested in all good ideas.
3:07:05
I got the tech grouch lined up.
3:07:08
Oh, really?
3:07:10
I'm getting closer because I had to get
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a new tech grouch cap.
3:07:13
You're going to just order some new tech
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grouch glasses.
3:07:16
You're going to tech grouch, but not going
3:07:17
to do the microphone company or the vinegar
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book.
3:07:20
No, they're all coming.
3:07:22
Here is a possible Adam and John no
3:07:26
agenda exit strategy.
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This trio of medical researchers is hyper focused
3:07:31
on an area of study.
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Most of us would flush away poop.
3:07:35
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of poop pills designed to extend the lives
3:07:42
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The team is searching for healthy poop donors
3:07:47
who can offer hope to patients currently facing
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a five year survival rate of less than
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10 percent.
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will see patients consume a large quantity of
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tasteless and odorless pills in one sitting.
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It's hope the microbes inside each capsule will
3:08:06
offer cancer patients a better chance to fight
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battling other types of diseases and cancers.
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the best type of human poop is in
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short supply.
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Those who do are coveted by the team.
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3:08:31
poop and you can really save lives.
3:08:34
John, we can save lives and become millionaires
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if we have the golden poop.
3:08:38
I think we should try out.
3:08:40
Oh, God.
3:08:42
You and Greg Gutfeld with this story.
3:08:47
Did he have the story?
3:08:48
I didn't know that.
3:08:49
I know you'd before you play the thumper
3:08:51
there.
3:08:52
Let's play the Walpole news.
3:08:54
So we have this week up to date
3:08:55
because this has got all the journalists in
3:08:57
the world bent out of shape.
3:08:59
Washington Post owner Jeff Bezos announced today that
3:09:02
the paper's opinion pages will focus on defending,
3:09:05
quote, personal liberties and free markets.
3:09:07
And a social media post.
3:09:08
Bezos says he told employees that, quote, viewpoints
3:09:11
opposing those pillars will be left to be
3:09:14
published by others.
3:09:15
Critics say it's the latest rightward shift at
3:09:18
the post under Bezos aimed at pleasing President
3:09:20
Trump.
3:09:21
Bezos insists that newspapers these days should not
3:09:24
offer a broad based opinion section, saying that
3:09:27
the Internet does that job.
3:09:29
Following today's announcement, the Post's opinion editor, David
3:09:33
Shipley, announced he is stepping down.
3:09:35
They should all resign.
3:09:37
They should all resign.
3:09:38
They should all get out.
3:09:39
Show Bezos that without them, they don't have
3:09:42
a paper.
3:09:43
There you go.
3:09:44
Exactly.
3:09:45
I'm going to show my support by donating
3:09:47
to No Agenda.
3:09:48
Imagine all the people who could do that.
3:09:50
Oh, yeah, that'd be fab.
3:09:58
And we do have a night to bring
3:10:00
up on stage today, even though I didn't
3:10:02
see a donation note.
3:10:04
I'm not sure if that was a layaway
3:10:06
note or.
3:10:07
I think it was a layaway or something.
3:10:08
I didn't see any any extra info about
3:10:11
that.
3:10:11
We, of course, have a meetup report and
3:10:13
some meetups to talk about.
3:10:14
And John's tip of the day.
3:10:17
Who would want to miss that?
3:10:18
You don't want to be that person.
3:10:20
Yeah, it's a bad idea supply.
3:10:22
So John is now going to thank the
3:10:24
remaining donors, $50 and above, who supported us
3:10:27
for Episode 1742.
3:10:29
Yeah, starting with Summer Worth.
3:10:31
Summer Worth in Standish, Maine, 150.
3:10:35
She thinks of the governor there.
3:10:37
Ash in Texas.
3:10:38
Ash in Texas.
3:10:40
One, two, three, four, five.
3:10:42
A Ben Blessing.
3:10:44
That's a really interesting name.
3:10:46
Ben, he was Ben was a blessing.
3:10:48
Ben, he's been a blessing all his life.
3:10:50
He's in Lubeck, Lubeck, Deutschland.
3:10:52
One hundred eleven dollars.
3:10:53
One hundred eleven dollars.
3:10:55
ITM, he says.
3:10:56
Nice.
3:10:56
Melissa Adams in Bon Secours.
3:10:59
Bon Secours, Alabama.
3:11:00
One oh five.
3:11:01
I'm sure it's pronounced some other way.
3:11:03
One oh five.
3:11:04
Thirty five.
3:11:06
Kevin McLaughlin, there she is.
3:11:08
There she is.
3:11:08
There he is.
3:11:10
And he's going to make him go away.
3:11:12
You're going to make him stop donating now.
3:11:14
You've done it.
3:11:14
You've done it.
3:11:15
Stop doing anything.
3:11:16
You've donated.
3:11:17
Well, I say she because he's always referring
3:11:20
to boobs.
3:11:20
And this donation is no exception with eight
3:11:23
oh oh eight.
3:11:24
He's the Archduke of Luna.
3:11:25
We all know that.
3:11:26
And he's a lover of American boobs.
3:11:28
Brian Kaufman in Scottsdale, Arizona.
3:11:31
Seventy five.
3:11:31
Seventy five.
3:11:32
Brian Beckham Beckham, Henry Brian.
3:11:37
Brian Kaufman is not Henry Beckham in Victoria,
3:11:42
B.C. The beautiful town.
3:11:43
Anyone who gets a chance to go visit
3:11:44
Victoria, B.C. is dynamite.
3:11:46
V.E. seven XKJ seventy threes and his
3:11:50
donation.
3:11:51
Seventy three.
3:11:51
Seventy three is a ham.
3:11:52
No, that's no, no, no.
3:11:54
Harry Beckham is donating on behalf of his
3:11:57
neighbor who got his call.
3:11:59
Victor Echo seven X ray Kiliat Kilo Juliet.
3:12:03
So I'm glad you read the note.
3:12:05
I do, which is.
3:12:07
Yes, Tim.
3:12:09
Tim Gekas in Bellevue, Nebraska, seventy three.
3:12:13
Seventy three.
3:12:14
He recently passed his technician exam and we
3:12:16
welcome him to amateur radio.
3:12:18
Kilo Fox zero.
3:12:21
Tango India Alpha.
3:12:23
Seventy three.
3:12:24
Seventy three.
3:12:24
So that's a donation people should consider.
3:12:27
Or they should become hams, by the way.
3:12:29
It's not that hard.
3:12:30
Especially if you're a techie and you can
3:12:33
talk gibberish speak with with the A.I.
3:12:37
Christy Jensen in Huntington Beach, California, sixty six
3:12:40
eleven.
3:12:43
I, I, Y, K, Y, K.
3:12:47
I spelled it out for you, John.
3:12:48
If you know, you know.
3:12:49
Oh, it's a sixty six eleven donation, isn't
3:12:52
that the dangling balls?
3:12:54
Yes.
3:12:57
Sir Don six oh oh six small boobs.
3:13:00
Dame Denise, 60.
3:13:03
She's turning 60 on February 18th.
3:13:06
Well, she's already passed that date, but we'll
3:13:08
give her a call out today.
3:13:11
She also asked for grandbaby making karma.
3:13:14
I will play that at the end for
3:13:15
her.
3:13:17
I'm sure it's not for her, she said.
3:13:19
Well, she's going to be a grandma.
3:13:21
She's a grand baby, grandbaby.
3:13:23
OK, she wants a grandkid.
3:13:24
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
3:13:26
They'll get it.
3:13:27
Sir Stone, 58 oh nine.
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Please review and promote site if you can.
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B.L. was a B.T.Y. B
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Educational site for drugs and the interactions they
3:13:44
have with our species.
3:13:49
Chris, Christine Hines.
3:13:53
Manchester, New Hampshire.
3:13:56
A fifty five, fifty five.
3:13:58
John Hulsing in Chanhassen, Minnesota.
3:14:03
Fifty five.
3:14:04
Fifty.
3:14:05
He's going to eat an apple in his
3:14:07
room.
3:14:09
Sir Lucas in Federal Way, Washington, is an
3:14:12
aunt Gigi donation, bro.
3:14:14
Aunt Gigi donation.
3:14:16
Fifty five.
3:14:17
Fifty.
3:14:19
Fifty five.
3:14:19
Ten from Sir Lucas of the Lost Bits.
3:14:22
Also fifty five ten from West Stewart in
3:14:24
Mesa, Arizona.
3:14:26
He's the basin of the sun.
3:14:30
Arizona Basin of the Sun, Arizona.
3:14:32
Sorry, my reading is off today.
3:14:34
Scotty in Madrid, Maryland, fifty five ten.
3:14:39
Madrid, Maryland.
3:14:40
No, no, he's from Madrid, Spain.
3:14:43
M.D. So it's Madrid.
3:14:44
Oh, Madrid, that's Madrid.
3:14:46
Oh, what am I thinking?
3:14:47
Yeah, I see the sorry, my mistake.
3:14:50
Another Spaniard.
3:14:53
And he says right there, not Maryland, that's
3:14:56
funny.
3:14:58
Now we have a blank.
3:14:59
I don't know.
3:15:00
You got anything in this cell?
3:15:02
From Lincoln, Nebraska, anonymous fifty five.
3:15:04
I have nothing in the cell.
3:15:06
Sorry, whoever you are.
3:15:07
Surprise at UConn, Oklahoma.
3:15:09
We haven't heard from him for a while.
3:15:10
Fifty four.
3:15:10
Forty four.
3:15:11
Aaron Newberry in Littleton, Colorado.
3:15:13
Fifty three oh seven.
3:15:15
Claire Hedges in Melbourne, Victoria, Australia.
3:15:20
I got that one right.
3:15:21
You got a birthday call out.
3:15:22
Fifty two.
3:15:23
Seventy two.
3:15:23
These are all fifty dollar donors.
3:15:25
I'm just going to do read these as
3:15:26
fifties.
3:15:27
These are fifty two.
3:15:29
Seventy two is with the same thing.
3:15:30
It's just got the fees starting with the
3:15:33
Bruno Freitas dos Santos in San Francisco.
3:15:37
Kevin Adam in Clover, South Carolina.
3:15:42
Christopher Hodges in Union, Mississippi.
3:15:45
Brian Belton in Ashbury, New Jersey.
3:15:48
Catherine Deem, D.I.E.M. in Lancaster,
3:15:53
Pennsylvania.
3:15:54
Nancy Wise in Powhatan, Virginia.
3:15:58
Charles Tracy in Hickory, North Carolina.
3:16:01
Sir Bix in.
3:16:04
What is this frills frill frill sing frill
3:16:07
sing Hong Kong.
3:16:08
Is that where that is?
3:16:09
No.
3:16:09
H.R. Hungary.
3:16:11
Hungary.
3:16:11
Yes.
3:16:12
And he wants a job, Scarra, which will
3:16:13
give him.
3:16:15
Vidal de la Torre Vidal de la Torre
3:16:20
Rivas.
3:16:21
God knows where he's from, but he's not
3:16:23
from around these parts.
3:16:25
No.
3:16:25
Fifty twenty eight.
3:16:28
Alex Vidal in Pembroke Pines, Florida.
3:16:31
Melissa Alvarez in Ponte Verde Beach.
3:16:38
This is Vedra, I guess is Vedra.
3:16:40
Fifty.
3:16:41
Oh, it's like that's an oddball when it's
3:16:43
fifty oh one.
3:16:45
And back to the 50s.
3:16:46
These are all real 50s.
3:16:47
Brett Denton in Boise, Idaho.
3:16:49
George Woushet in Lavergne, Texas.
3:16:52
Where is that where you are?
3:16:54
I have no idea.
3:16:55
No idea.
3:16:56
Florian Enke Enke in Bruecklinghausen.
3:17:03
Denmark or Denmark, I'm sorry, Deutschland sent an
3:17:07
email to Adam.
3:17:09
I hope you responded to it.
3:17:10
Well, I haven't seen my all of my
3:17:12
emails.
3:17:13
She said, I'm seeing it here.
3:17:14
A very long one.
3:17:15
And she says a big thank you for
3:17:18
the time and effort put into the No
3:17:19
Agenda show.
3:17:20
And I will read it and I will
3:17:21
respond, I promise.
3:17:25
Aaron Weisgerber in Bend, Oregon.
3:17:27
John Taylor in Florissant, Colorado.
3:17:29
Richard Gardner, I think he's in New York.
3:17:31
Could be wrong.
3:17:32
Joshua Baker in Wanganui, Wanganui, Wanganui.
3:17:40
He's the guy that becomes a knight today.
3:17:43
Oh, there he is.
3:17:44
No note.
3:17:44
No, I'd like to be knighted.
3:17:46
There you go.
3:17:46
No note.
3:17:47
I have no, no delusions of anything.
3:17:50
He says, I want to talk about pseudonymity.
3:17:52
He says he's just going to be Sir
3:17:54
Joshua Baker.
3:17:55
He's good with that.
3:17:56
His regular name.
3:17:58
Jules in Glendale, Arizona, 50.
3:18:01
And he's no longer a douchebag.
3:18:03
So we'll give him a de-douching.
3:18:06
You've been de-douched.
3:18:08
And we wrap it up with a.
3:18:11
I guess this Joshi, Jackie, Jackie, I don't
3:18:14
know how you pronounce this, and he's in
3:18:15
here.
3:18:17
I'd say Jackie, Jackie.
3:18:21
Whetler, Grandville, Michigan.
3:18:24
Henry Keon in Aledo, Texas, or Harry, I'm
3:18:28
sorry.
3:18:29
Michael Myers in Mandeville, Louisiana, wraps things up.
3:18:34
But there is a note from somebody here
3:18:36
that came on a sheet of paper.
3:18:39
And when the people write in and drop
3:18:41
off a check, we like to take a
3:18:42
look at it.
3:18:42
She's oh, this came from Denise Robertson, the
3:18:45
queen of Cobalt programmer.
3:18:50
She says, for your producers that work for
3:18:52
the USPS, I have a failure in John's
3:18:55
just send a check philosophy.
3:18:57
I mail the card with a check in
3:18:59
plenty of time to get my smoking hot
3:19:00
husband's birthday on the list for two, four.
3:19:03
I've been listening intently for the donations.
3:19:05
No happy birthday, Fred Robertson.
3:19:07
Hope this gets to you soon.
3:19:09
But sometimes the mail is coming from some
3:19:11
parts of the country.
3:19:12
This is a $60 donation she gave us.
3:19:15
I think she I think is on today's
3:19:16
list.
3:19:18
Yeah, sometimes it gets slowed down.
3:19:19
Sometimes it's pretty quick, but it comes.
3:19:22
You eventually get it.
3:19:25
So good for the United Postal Service.
3:19:27
I talked to my post office workers recently
3:19:29
about the about the latest, and they they're
3:19:32
not that freaked out.
3:19:35
Oh.
3:19:37
They are you done?
3:19:38
Do you have you?
3:19:39
Yeah, I'm through.
3:19:40
Oh, because I actually have a clip about
3:19:42
the United States Postal Service from our new
3:19:46
commerce secretary, Howard Lutnick.
3:19:50
He had some genius ideas.
3:19:52
So the concept was I'm sitting with the
3:19:54
president and and the costs of the post
3:19:57
office are like it loses seven billion dollars.
3:19:59
And he said, can you do something with
3:20:01
it?
3:20:01
And I said, sure.
3:20:02
So I saw him the next day goes,
3:20:04
OK, what do you got?
3:20:05
You know, he gives me a whole 24
3:20:06
hours to figure it out.
3:20:07
And I said, well, the Commerce Department does
3:20:10
the census and we spend 40 billion dollars
3:20:13
every 10 years doing the census.
3:20:15
And that means we hire 625,000 people
3:20:18
and they go and they rent cars and
3:20:20
gas and you pay them food.
3:20:21
And you know what they do?
3:20:22
They go to every household in America and
3:20:24
count the people.
3:20:26
What department do we already have that already
3:20:29
employs 625,000 people?
3:20:31
It's got cars, already has gas, goes to
3:20:33
every household.
3:20:34
Can you imagine saying to your postman, can
3:20:36
you count the people in the house?
3:20:38
What day could he do the census Monday?
3:20:39
Could he double check it on Tuesday?
3:20:41
How about Wednesday?
3:20:42
It goes every day.
3:20:43
So we can only save 40 billion dollars
3:20:45
or four billion a year.
3:20:46
And we'll do a better job.
3:20:48
And you know what else we can do
3:20:49
with the post office?
3:20:50
They can go to your house when you
3:20:52
have a baby and give you the form
3:20:53
for Social Security and the 20,000 Social
3:20:56
Security offices that we have.
3:20:57
We just don't need it.
3:20:58
We actually can do real customer service.
3:21:00
Go right to your house.
3:21:01
Someone died.
3:21:02
Here's the forms.
3:21:03
You can fill it out.
3:21:03
I'll bring them to your house.
3:21:04
Customer service.
3:21:06
Why?
3:21:06
Because we've got those people.
3:21:08
Let's use the assets of the government to
3:21:11
make us better and save us money.
3:21:14
We can be smart.
3:21:15
You know, we're allowed.
3:21:17
OK, United States Postal Service.
3:21:19
Yeah, of course, none of this will ever
3:21:21
happen in a million years.
3:21:22
But it's a it's a great idea.
3:21:24
And, you know, Lutnick is the guy that
3:21:26
that Musk pushed to become the Commerce Secretary,
3:21:32
Secretary of the Treasury.
3:21:33
No, Commerce, Commerce, Commerce.
3:21:35
Oh, I think he pushed the Secretary of
3:21:37
the Treasury and then he got bumped to
3:21:38
Commerce by Trump.
3:21:40
Oh, he didn't take Musk's advice on this
3:21:43
guy.
3:21:44
But he is a big must a big
3:21:46
fan of this guy.
3:21:47
Well, it's an innovative idea.
3:21:49
I can already see our postal workers who
3:21:51
are big podcast listeners rolling their eyes.
3:21:53
I'm sure they will email.
3:21:54
They are sure they will be dropping off
3:21:57
some forms any minute now.
3:22:00
And before we get to our birthdays, etc.
3:22:05
Pam Bondi or no, the FBI has just
3:22:08
released the first 22 Epstein documents, not to
3:22:11
the M5M, but has posted it on X
3:22:15
vault that FBI dot gov slash Jeffrey Dash
3:22:18
Epstein.
3:22:19
It's not loading for me.
3:22:20
But apparently the first documents people are opening
3:22:24
has all kinds of words like child prostitution
3:22:26
in it.
3:22:27
So we'll find out about.
3:22:28
Oh, here it is.
3:22:29
It opened for me.
3:22:30
Well, now you're your complaint about Bondi needs
3:22:34
to be pulled back.
3:22:36
You had to claw it back.
3:22:38
Claw release something.
3:22:39
Yeah, there's something here.
3:22:40
It's so yeah, it's 22 documents and it's
3:22:43
in the FBI vault.
3:22:44
So there'll be plenty of work to do
3:22:47
after the show.
3:22:48
And as promised, we will hand out that
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Our list for today includes Dame Denise, who
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wishes her smoking hot husband Fred Robertson a
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very happy birthday.
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Now, that's a belated birthday because he was
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celebrated on the fourth.
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Leon Actinson celebrated on the 16th.
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Dame Denise turned 60 on the 18th.
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So recalcitrant crazy.
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Steve, the second says happy birthday to the
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Duke of San Francisco.
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He'll be celebrating on the 28th.
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Dame Anne of Grey Rock says happy birthday
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to her daughter.
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Lexie Spillers turns 13 on the 29th, which,
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of course, we won't actually be celebrating because
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there's no 29th.
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Claire Hedges, which is Pierce Chidley of Melbourne,
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Australia.
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Happy birthday.
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And Nancy Wise says happy birthday to her
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There's always a lot of fun.
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We have no agenda meetups.
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Dot com is our website where you can
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And recently we had the Oregon Local 33
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meetup and they sent in a report.
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This is Tim Sertenti back in Oregon at
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the Oregon Local 33.
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In the morning.
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This is Liam.
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Sir, they them of Portland and greetings from
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Hey, it's Max Knight of PDX.
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Have a wonderful something or other.
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This is Tim.
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This is my first meetup.
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I should have gotten the venison burger.
3:26:29
But the burger that I got was also
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very good.
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This is Rhonda.
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Greetings from Portland.
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Rob here.
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Have a good one.
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This is Hillary.
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And I need a de-douching.
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This is Calvin.
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Five years.
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Still a douchebag.
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This is Daniel.
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John, I've been following you since the 90s.
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Jesse Collins.
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This is Bea from Portland.
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In the morning.
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All right.
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The Portland crew there.
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And there are many more meetups taking place
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around Gitmo Nation today.
3:26:55
In fact, at six o'clock, the North
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Georgia monthly meetup at Cherry Street Brewing in
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Alpharetta, Georgia, on Friday, the Duke of San
3:27:02
Francisco birthday bash.
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Well, that's nice.
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That'll be at six thirty three at Tornado.
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Tornado, it says.
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Tornado, San Francisco, California.
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Tornado.
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Tornado.
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Tornado.
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You should go.
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I can't.
3:27:17
It's Friday.
3:27:18
I got I've got things to do.
3:27:20
You got a Saturday.
3:27:21
I can do Saturday.
3:27:22
I can't do Friday.
3:27:23
So I understand.
3:27:23
No, I'd say you have important.
3:27:25
I would like to go.
3:27:27
But what do you do on Fridays that
3:27:28
I'm unaware of?
3:27:29
Well, I have a family dinner usually.
3:27:31
Oh, that's nice.
3:27:32
But this particular Friday, there's a there's a
3:27:34
massive protest.
3:27:36
You're going to.
3:27:37
I'm going to the protest, the protest, the
3:27:39
government, you know, walk out on Saturday, March
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1st flight of the no agenda number.
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This is Leo Bravo, who organizes them all
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the time.
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60 times, in fact, 11 o'clock at
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Marina Cafe on Saturday in Wilmington, California, and
3:27:53
the meeting in the desert, two o'clock
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on Sunday.
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Our next show day, March 2nd, sawmill in
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Albuquerque, New Mexico.
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The Fuzzy Press is organizing that.
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And we do have another meet up on
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Sunday.
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It's a central Jersey.
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We drink and we know things meet up.
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Apocalypse, apocalypse or season of reveal edition two
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o'clock at three B.R. Distillery in
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Keyport, New Jersey.
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Many more meet ups to be found that
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Go take a look.
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There's a lot of them.
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They are free.
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You might buy yourself a drink or someone
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No agenda meet ups dot com.
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If you can't find one near you, start
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one yourself.
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You to be where everybody feels the same.
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It's like a party.
3:28:52
Time now in the program where we select
3:28:54
an ISO.
3:28:55
That's a little snippet that we'll use at
3:28:57
the end of the show.
3:28:58
I see you only have one today.
3:29:00
That's rather surprising.
3:29:01
This is the carry over.
3:29:02
You said I should carry this one over.
3:29:04
You took it easy.
3:29:05
You laid back, kicked back and went, I'm
3:29:07
just going to carry this over.
3:29:08
I'll be good to go.
3:29:10
Well, I just figured the way things are
3:29:12
going, I'm good to go.
3:29:13
But I'm not sure what you play yours
3:29:14
and we'll find out.
3:29:15
As long as you're happy, I'm happy.
3:29:21
That's it.
3:29:22
That's one.
3:29:23
That's one.
3:29:23
And I have this one.
3:29:24
Oh, my God.
3:29:25
I use it all the time now.
3:29:26
It's so great.
3:29:28
Too too echoey, too echoey.
3:29:30
And then here's yours.
3:29:31
Try and top that for a killer show.
3:29:33
This is you're going to have to find
3:29:35
the new one because this can't carry over.
3:29:37
It's too good.
3:29:39
It is just too good.
3:29:40
Now, ladies and gentlemen, it is time for
3:29:42
everybody's highlight of every program.
3:29:44
John's tip of the day.
3:29:45
Great advice from you and me.
3:29:49
Just a tip with JC and sometimes created
3:29:54
by Dana Brunetti.
3:29:57
All right.
3:29:59
So I have a habit over the years
3:30:05
because I cook a lot of trying various
3:30:09
seasonings that are produced by commercial vendors that,
3:30:13
you know, do one thing or another.
3:30:16
And I want to recommend one.
3:30:19
I've recommended body as I think already.
3:30:21
But this is one that this is kind
3:30:23
of a Greeks.
3:30:24
This is a Greek seasoning.
3:30:26
That's not the typical Greek seasoning.
3:30:28
And I will mention that there's a lot
3:30:30
of these things are quite important to a
3:30:31
lot certain cuisines.
3:30:33
And I will mention Tony C's for one.
3:30:36
That's not today's tip.
3:30:37
But if you cook, you know, people are
3:30:39
saying you want to cook in Cajun style,
3:30:41
you put some of the Cajun spicing, you
3:30:44
put some of this in.
3:30:45
It's always Tony C's and it comes in
3:30:47
a green thing.
3:30:49
And this is Tony C's.
3:30:50
Tony C's like Tony.
3:30:52
Tony, catch your air.
3:30:53
I think it's called Tony C's.
3:30:55
It says Tony C's.
3:30:56
And if you don't use Tony C's or
3:30:58
know about Tony C's and you never cook,
3:31:01
you know, Southern style cooking because everybody uses
3:31:03
Tony C's.
3:31:04
There's there's competitors to Tony C's.
3:31:07
Emeril has a season.
3:31:08
Oh, this.
3:31:09
Bam.
3:31:09
That's all just fake news.
3:31:11
It's not an Emeril is nothing close to
3:31:13
Tony C.
3:31:14
Well, Tony C is the stuff you want.
3:31:16
But this is the one I'm recommending for
3:31:18
today's show, because people should already be on
3:31:20
to Tony C's.
3:31:22
Zeus, Zeus, Zeus.
3:31:25
This is a very interesting seasoning.
3:31:28
It's it's a it's kind of a paprika
3:31:30
colored dark.
3:31:33
Greek type seasoning, and it's pretty good on
3:31:35
everything, like hash brown potatoes, eggs, meat, stews
3:31:43
is a very good proprietary blend of seasoning
3:31:47
that just works well with a lot of
3:31:49
stuff.
3:31:50
I I used to buy it at the
3:31:52
store and then all of a sudden I
3:31:53
can't get it.
3:31:54
I had to get it online.
3:31:55
But some stores still carry it.
3:31:58
Killer product.
3:31:59
Zeus, Zeus.
3:32:00
Interesting.
3:32:01
For some reason, I thought you would never
3:32:03
be a guy that would use a bought
3:32:05
seasoning, that you would be the kind of
3:32:07
chef that would create his own.
3:32:10
See, even Emeril, when he does his cooking
3:32:12
show and other people do, too, they always
3:32:14
say, well, and I put in some Cajun
3:32:15
seasoning.
3:32:16
They're using Tony C's.
3:32:17
Oh, well, you you always unless you want
3:32:21
to make your own Tony C's.
3:32:22
But these guys have actually done some research.
3:32:24
So you get this much of this, this
3:32:26
much of that.
3:32:26
It all we have.
3:32:28
One of our producers produces a salt and
3:32:30
pepper called both.
3:32:32
There's a salt and pepper blend.
3:32:34
You probably have some.
3:32:35
Yeah, he sent me some of that.
3:32:36
This is very interesting.
3:32:36
It's an interesting product.
3:32:38
And it works.
3:32:39
It does.
3:32:40
And you know, it saves me time.
3:32:42
It saves time.
3:32:43
And it's and it's tasty and it's gone
3:32:46
through some effort.
3:32:47
So I always use I've always try.
3:32:50
I try these.
3:32:51
Not of them.
3:32:52
Not all of them are good.
3:32:53
I'm saying proprietary seasonings are not a bad
3:32:57
idea.
3:32:57
It's a shortcut that is not cheating the
3:33:00
way I see it.
3:33:01
If you find a good one, use it.
3:33:03
That both products.
3:33:05
And when I saw that, because it came
3:33:06
into the box, I was like, well, why
3:33:09
didn't someone do this much earlier?
3:33:11
It makes so much sense.
3:33:13
It's one of those pepper in one makes
3:33:15
you good to go.
3:33:17
That's another outstanding product.
3:33:19
Yes, it's it had to take some effort,
3:33:22
because if you would mix salt and pepper
3:33:24
yourself, yeah, it would it would separate.
3:33:27
It would pepper to go to the bottom
3:33:28
of the salt, go to the bottom.
3:33:29
Something would happen, but he's got it.
3:33:32
So it's this exact same grind.
3:33:34
Yes, it's on both products.
3:33:35
So it has a so it does even
3:33:38
out when you when you use it.
3:33:39
It's part of his proprietary process.
3:33:42
I understand.
3:33:43
Yeah, right.
3:33:43
That's what it is.
3:33:44
All right, everybody.
3:33:45
No, I've always been a big fan of
3:33:47
these things.
3:33:48
OK.
3:34:07
And sometimes created by Dana Brunetti, Zeus.
3:34:11
I'm sorry, Zeus.
3:34:12
I misunderstood the whole thing.
3:34:14
Zeus.
3:34:14
Yes.
3:34:15
So but Tony sees is a good day.
3:34:17
Whoever's putting this together at Tony sees with
3:34:19
the Zeus.
3:34:20
All right.
3:34:20
Tony, a twofer, a twofer and both.
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Put both on there while you're at it.
3:34:24
It's good.
3:34:24
Good.
3:34:25
Yeah, you could.
3:34:26
Hey, that's it for no agenda.
3:34:27
We went long today.
3:34:28
Alert the affiliates.
3:34:30
I don't know what happened.
3:34:31
We got it.
3:34:32
We're out of control.
3:34:33
We need to stop doing that.
3:34:35
Coming up next on no agenda stream, if
3:34:38
you want to stay tuned, we have the
3:34:40
latest episode from the grumpy old dames, Lady
3:34:44
Vox and Dame Black Loka, two big favorites
3:34:47
of the the Darren O'Neill rock and
3:34:50
roll pre show.
3:34:51
Also, end of show mixes from Leo Lapuke,
3:34:53
David Kekta and Sir Nedwood.
3:34:57
Stay tuned for that.
3:34:58
And I am coming to you from the
3:35:00
heart of the Texas Hill County here in
3:35:02
Fredericksburg, Texas, in the morning, everybody.
3:35:04
I'm Adam Curry.
3:35:05
And I want to remind people that I
3:35:07
want to thank Darren O'Neill in particular
3:35:09
for reminding us how bad guns and roses
3:35:11
can be.
3:35:13
I'm John C.
3:35:14
DeVore.
3:35:15
We'll be back on Sunday with more media
3:35:17
deconstruction for you.
3:35:18
Please remember us at no agenda donations dot
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com.
3:35:22
Until then, adios, mofos, a hui hui and
3:35:26
such.
3:35:34
I want to introduce the biggest fans of
3:35:36
Ukraine, Anthony Blinken.
3:35:39
The denizens of a bar in Kiev, Secretary
3:35:43
of State Anthony Blinken.
3:35:45
He went to a bar and jammed with
3:35:48
a local Ukrainian rock band.
3:35:50
He was wearing jeans and a black shirt
3:35:52
because he's so cool.
3:35:53
For a war torn country that is facing
3:35:55
genocidal demolition, it'd be cool to dig and
3:35:58
jam and party with a bunch of people
3:36:00
who are drinking it up.
3:36:01
They have unlimited.
3:36:01
They will be funded forever.
3:36:03
And it was obviously for the cameras.
3:36:06
This was all planned and all staged.
3:36:08
Who is this for exactly?
3:36:11
It does not send a message of desperation
3:36:13
on the part of Ukraine.
3:36:15
Secretary of State Blinken jamming in a bar
3:36:16
in Kiev while you're forced to cough up
3:36:18
tens of billions of dollars that we don't
3:36:20
have for the war.
3:36:21
There are too many failed theater kids, actors
3:36:23
and musicians and politics.
3:36:25
The actual band, they were told someone famous
3:36:28
was going to come and play with them.
3:36:29
They were told it was Neil Young.
3:36:59
Show.
3:37:04
They're in your bedroom, in your living room,
3:37:08
in your businesses.
3:37:10
They got your data, dumbass.
3:37:12
They got all your stuff.
3:37:14
Elon Musk has his tentacles in everything you're
3:37:17
doing, not just off of X.
3:37:19
But now he's in the Treasury Department.
3:37:21
He's in the Labor Department.
3:37:23
He's in the Department of Homeland Security.
3:37:29
He seems to do what he has to
3:37:31
do, so I want somebody to show that
3:37:34
they care enough to get off their fat
3:37:36
ass and say something about it.
3:37:39
It's all part of the Democrats.
3:37:43
And he, of course, is supposed to be
3:37:45
Republican.
3:37:46
Just going unhinged.
3:37:48
We've been noticing the cursing.
3:37:50
And he had a lot of things out
3:37:51
of you.
3:37:51
Damn this, damn that, off your fat ass.
3:37:54
Did you hear James Carville?
3:38:02
The EU,
3:38:14
there's no turning back.
3:38:18
Give us all your gas.
3:38:23
We will save you from that evil Ruskin
3:38:28
Putin.
3:38:29
Let BIMF be gluten.
3:38:33
Everybody wants to hear you cry.
3:38:38
There's a leak that we're pointing to you.
3:38:42
Just look out when the bombs come tumbling
3:38:46
down.
3:38:47
And you and I will be right behind
3:38:50
you.
3:38:51
So sad you almost made it.
3:38:55
Too bad we had to fake it.
3:38:59
Everybody wants to hear you cry.
3:39:11
The best podcast in the universe.
3:39:20
Adios, Mopo, Dvorak, .org, Slash N A.
3:39:26
Try and top that for a killer show.