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Hey, what happened to my money?
Adam Curry, John C.
Dvorak It's Sunday, March 9th, 2025 This is
your award-winning Cuban Nation Media Assassination Episode
1745 This is no agenda Singing for Science
And broadcasting live from the heart of the
Texas Hill Country Here in FEMA Region Number
6 In the morning everybody, I'm Adam Curry
And from Northern Silicon Valley where we've noticed
They're bombing Ukraine The Russians are bombing Ukraine
And John C.
Dvorak It's crackpot and buzzkill In the morning
Yes, they're bombing Ukraine And, more importantly It's
that time of year again, John Oh, okay
It's Ford Truck Month Ford Truck...
Oh, I thought it was Toyota-thon No,
it's Ford Truck Month Every single podcast I
listen to Except for ours, of course They
all interrupt three times during the show And
if it's not the wellness company It's Ford
Truck Month I don't believe I just don't
believe that the people who listen to Pivot
Buy trucks They're not Ford truck drivers Those
people that listen to Pivot Subaru, maybe Yeah,
that is...
When did that become, like, the lesbian car?
That was...
Did we play a clip of the guy
who explained it?
Oh, I'm trying to think if we did
Was it a marketing thing?
It was a marketing guy The guy said,
you know He just had this sense that
there's some woman's thing that was going on
He said, you know, I think if we
push the car into this direction It would
be a big hit I'm looking, I can't
find it I have to revisit this marketing
trick But yeah, it all of a sudden
became the lesbian car Is it still successful,
though?
Is the Subaru still a big seller?
Is it still a thing?
Oh, yeah, they do very well It's a
good car The thing that makes the car...
It's, like, got the safety features of a
Volvo So they're very...
It's a good car to drive A good
family car That, for me, is the quintessential
lesbian car The Volvo Come on, obviously It's
up there Yeah, I had a Volvo One
of my first cars was a Volvo I
told you the Volvo...
I took a tour of the factory In
Sweden?
Yeah Oh, do tell I did not know
about this Yeah, it was great Because they
also gave us a tour on the track
They let us race around on the track
Wow Oh, you'd be surprised This is when
I first drove those new diesels The ones
that turned out to be, like, you know
Kind of sketchy in terms of the way
they polluted Was that the...
I thought that was the Volkswagen, wasn't it?
The Volkswagen Yeah, I drove...
I know, the Volkswagen had the reputation But
this is the same product Because these things
went...
This diesel...
Because I've driven diesels A diesel that goes
like a bat out of hell Something's up
I remember...
So my first car...
No, my...
Yes, my first car was the Volvo 142
Which was the size of a tank with
a lawnmower engine And I was always jealous
Because a buddy of mine had the 144
with the overdrive feature It had a little
button on the top And it was overdrive...
Whatever that meant But then later As a
payoff Whatever that meant I don't know what
that means Later, as a payoff...
It has to do with sports ball No
No, later as a...
It's a guy's thing Yeah Later as a
payoff for...
Kind of like one of those old...
You know, the black musicians in rock'n
'roll in the 50s They weren't allowed to
pay me to drink milk on TV So
they gave me a car instead It's a
long story It has to do with commercial
interests on public broadcast And they gave me
a Volvo 480 ES Have you ever seen
that car?
No, I can look it up Yeah, you
should take a look It had flip-up
lights It's not that cute little sportsy looking
thing Yeah, yeah Well, I don't know if
it was cute looking The front end was
kind of cute looking It was sportsy But
the thing was There was something...
Because it was one of the first ones
in Europe And I remember...
Because I was a smoker then, of course
It was Volvo, what?
480?
480 ES EF?
ES That's Eco Sierra Oh, yes And there
was something...
They had treated the steering wheel and the
interior With some kind of new plastic And
if you...
And so if you were driving And if
you for any reason Put your fingers near
your mouth Which you would do as a
smoker It was like this acidic burn That
would just go into your mouth And you
couldn't get rid of it It was a
poisonous vehicle, I tell you Maybe I see
it, yeah That's cute Anyway, enough about cars
Because it's Ford Truck Month And also It's
time for a whiplash A whiplash in trade
policy Here at the White House Has sent
the stock market reeling This whiplash triggered another
sell-off On Wall Street, the Dow, Nasdaq,
and S&P All to...
We start with that news market sell-off
The reason?
More whiplash from President Trump Over tariffs A
full week of whiplash Over President Trump's On
-again, off-again tariff strategy Whiplash President Trump's
on-again, off-again tariffs On Canadian and
Mexican imports Is off again It feels like
whiplash by the White House Has many people
wondering what's next Many experts say this constant
whiplash By the White House Has many people
wondering What will happen next The fast action
from the new Trump administration Has also led
to some neck-breaking whiplash Joe, a lot
of whiplash to go around Happy Friday Well,
a lot of whiplash There you go, a
lot of whiplash Sounds like it People are
complaining that I'm over-modulating Why is this?
Yeah, you're breaking up Am I breaking up
on YouTube?
Yeah Well, it's during the clip The thing
would just go off the rails And it
would just be distorted Really?
I'm not sure why that is Okay, well
I thought it was just local here But
I guess not No Well, the experts in
the troll room They know exactly what's going
on 1-2, 1-2 No, it seems
okay That's just That's all your gear, man
It's nothing to do with me So, yes
Whiplash on the tariffs This is the big
thing No one understands it What's going on
The markets are upset The markets are crashing
Markets are crashing, John Markets are crashing Have
you heard the markets are crashing?
It's crashing I heard this And I heard
there's whiplash Yeah, whiplash Because we are in
the fog of trade war The fog of
trade war Good evening, I'm John Dickerson I'm
Maurice DuBois The financial markets were rattled today
Oh, by the way, stop, stop So, they
fired Nora from CBS Yes News deconstruction is
what we should be talking about Yes, yes
So, they got rid of her And they
put her on Of course, they never fire
anybody They put you on special assignment Yeah,
and you get to do long-form programming
Yeah, and then you're done So, they put
in John Dickerson Who's good enough, you know
On his slow-talking morning shows And this
other guy And it's like a Huntley-Brinkley
report They're trying to bring back Huntley and
Brinkley From the 60s and 70s Which was
on NBC, not CBS, of course But they're
trying to put this team up It stinks
And the two guys don't have any rapport
Almost as though they're competing with each other
Figuring one of them is going to get
the other guy out of there And he's
going to take over I'm on the brink,
honey Once I get that guy out of
here It'll be all me It'll be all
me So, this is the worst And the
Multiculti guy Will probably win if they're going
to do that Because Dickerson seems nervous He
doesn't seem comfortable He's not doing a very
good job The way they've staged it stinks
And not only that, but they're a mile
apart It's just terrible It's terrible It's worse
than Nora All the more reason to go
back to the clip The fog of trade
war Good evening, I'm John Dickerson I'm Maurice
Dubois The financial markets were rattled today By
the Commander-in-Chief and General Confusion Conflicting
signals from the President Is that a new
guy?
General Confusion?
Is that a new guy?
I never heard of him I don't know
Oh yes, Maurice Dubois Otherwise known as General
Confusion There you go Conflicting signals from the
President About his trade war Sent stock prices
tumbling The Dow lost a full percent The
Nasdaq more than two and a half What
happened to you?
What are you doing?
I'm moving stuff around Could you do it
not during the clips?
You know, just More than two and a
half President Trump granted more exemptions today To
his 25% tax on imports from Canada
and Mexico For one month Goods covered by
the USMCA trade agreement Will not be subject
to the tariffs He gave that same exemption
yesterday To Detroit's big three automakers This is
not the first time The President has threatened
or imposed tariffs And pulled back And the
uncertainty goes well beyond Wall Street Ed O
'Keefe is at a curling center In Toronto
What?
Ed O'Keefe, Canadian sports Are they talking
about curling?
Canadian sports?
Yes, he's at a curling center in Ontario
Which is where you get your boots on
the ground from Because when you think of
Canada What do you think of?
Well, I always think of curling The on
-again, off-again tariffs Are mostly off-again
Are they going to keep saying on-again,
off-again?
Yes, they do keep saying that actually Here
in Canada's largest province Which is warning of
economic pain For at least some Americans We
have to put an end to this This
is mass chaos Right now around North America
And actually around the world Doug Ford is
Premier of Ontario The hub of Canada's economy
And home to 40% of Canadians He
dismissed President Trump's pause on tariffs He said
that before And he switched his mind A
few days later, a week later So once
I touch a stove And I get burned
once I don't touch that stove again He
needs to drop all tariffs And if he
doesn't drop them for good Ford says Ontario
Which transmits electricity to the United States Will
put a 25% tariff On power sent
to Minnesota, Michigan and New York Starting Monday
Ford got into a heated phone conversation this
week With the U.S. Commerce Secretary And
has banned the sale of American-made spirits
In Ontario liquor stores So if I hear
you, you're turning off the lights And you're
running the bourbon dry In response to what
the United States is doing The last thing
I want to do is turn off the
lights I'll put a tariff But let's straighten
this out And to the American homeowner in
Minnesota Or New York Or somewhere else that
gets its power from electricity They're going to
see the electric bill in a month And
they're going to realize, whoa A lot more
expensive than it was And there's one person
to be blamed And that's President Trump Even
if the tariffs are temporarily off The anger
has hardly subsided At the private Royal Canadian
Curling Club Hold on a second Before we
get back to the curling club What is
Ford talking about?
He's going to jack up the prices?
That's not a tariff That's an increase in
price I know Just before you finish this
clip I have to mention something I've been
meaning to talk about For a month Oh,
please Ever since Trump got elected On Fox
A couple of the shows on Fox Have
had this running I should have recorded it,
I'm sure A running ad Promoting Ontario I've
never seen this before on television Interesting It's
an advertisement Ontario, your trading partner The greatest
place in the world We in Canada, blah
blah blah And it goes on It's a
60 second commercial And they play it all
the time on Fox And when I first
saw it I said, oh, something's going to
happen here There's something wrong Why is Ontario,
of all places, advertising On network television?
Right, right And by the way, for those
of you wondering No, no, no, this is
Doug Ford Not to be confused with Tom
Ford Or with Ford Truck Month Or with
Rob Ford This guy For months, Rob Ford,
the embattled mayor of Toronto Has been dogged
by allegations That he'd been caught on tape
Smoking crack And today, the mayor of Canada's
biggest city Came clean Have I tried it?
Probably in one of my drunken stupors Just
hours later He fell on the sword again
Admitting it Was the most difficult And embarrassing
thing I have ever Had to do That's
his brother Yeah, they're all I'm sure they
all party This guy here This joker Seems
the same guy to me Let's go back
But let's straighten this out And to the
American homeowner In Minnesota or New York Or
somewhere else that gets its power from electricity
They're going to see the electric bill in
a month And they're going to realize, whoa
A lot more expensive than it was And
there's one person to be blamed And that's
President Trump I was fighting words Oh
no This is one small thing that we
can do And Danielle Brown says Royal Canadian
anger isn't about the American people Just the
American president It's really just sad and a
shame That leadership is actually Maybe for positioning,
who knows why Trumping up These allegations That
we're maybe Not as good partners as we
actually are I have respect for the Canadians
There's a big movement We're only buying Canadian,
eh?
Which is good I think that's Most of
their wine is made in the bathroom Okanagan
Valley makes a good product That's for sure
But if you go to Canada All the
liquor stores are government controlled So they can
do this stuff Even though they already bought
the stuff But they're going to put it
back in the warehouse But they have these
shops Throughout Canada Where you can go in
there and buy home winemaking Gear And must
And grape juice and different kinds of things
And you make it at home And I
think a lot of Canadians Somebody from Canada
can call me out on this if I'm
wrong But it seemed pretty popular to me
That they had this Rig that you could
buy To make your own damn wine In
the toilet In the toilet, basically It's interesting
because I asked Canadians To send us some
boots on the ground And some thoughts about
everything And it varies I got some good
reports too Maybe we'll get to them later
Most of what I received is We actually
wouldn't mind being the 51st state I didn't
get too many of those I know I
got a couple of those Also You know
A lot of like well And this is
kind of permeated It might be in this
report A lot of Canadians would say Well
we all know that we only exist Because
you haven't invaded us yet Which I think
is Well I didn't get that one Yeah
I got that one These guys are the
ones Who burnt down the US capital These
Canadians The war of 1812 Was a war
of the United States Versus Canada We don't
like talking about it Because the Canadians won
The Canadians will discuss it Let's get some
more insight from CBS Now Ed we usually
think of Canadians In kindness but in this
case They seem pretty angry right about now
Why are they digging in so hard Browsing
hold on a second The Canadians Oh they're
so kind That's not necessarily It seems like
that on the surface But when you go
and spend any time at all in Canada
They're gruff They're quick to I've had this
happen more than once It takes a while
to get used to being in Canada Because
when you have this Polite back and forth
Where you say Thank you Thanks You always
say thanks and you're welcome If you don't
get the thanks out Fast enough The Canadians
will say you're welcome In a very gruff
tone as though you haven't said Thank you
fast enough You are generalizing you realize that
right Generalizing from lots of experience Got a
report from Corey Corey and his wife Attended
the Tony Hinchcliffe show In Niagara Falls Ontario
Last night that's the guy who said You
know who Talked about the trash in the
ocean being Puerto Rico Yeah right So he
opened the show With the American National Anthem
The Star Spangled Banner Nobody booed everybody cheered
How about that That's odd Well there was
no alcohol Go to a hockey game and
get everybody else sauced up It's like Maybe
they weren't even booing Maybe they were just
trying to bend over Oooh Trying to bend
over Well Maurice AdamMcCurry.com Oh The Canadians
love me They love us they love the
show We're the only Americans who Pay any
attention to Canadian news We know they just
read Rob Ford Nobody else does The important
stuff Well Maurice in their view And the
reality is there have been Free trade agreements
between the U.S. and Canada In place
since the late 1980s Many may remember NAFTA
more recently The U.S. Mexico Canada free
trade agreement That was negotiated in part By
Donald Trump They're sick of being pushed around
And they're not quite sure what it is
the president Wants done by early April To
call off this trade war entirely Trade war
trade war So here's the final one about
the actual Products that are being affected And
if these tariffs stick What other kinds of
products Or what other ways will Americans be
affected Well let's walk our way across Canada
To give you an example In British Columbia
the lumber from there Helps build American homes
In Alberta the oil and gas gets pumped
into American cars Fertilizer from Saskatchewan Gets scattered
across the heartland And we went to a
steel manufacturer here in Ontario Who makes window
wells and garden beds That get bought up
all across the American suburbs And then of
course there's the produce Blueberries, tomatoes, and yes
Maple syrup, the cost of them Would go
up as well What kind of got lost
in all of this And I got some
boots on the ground From our producers about
this as well Is initially And I think
still These tariffs are indeed About fentanyl And
if you look at the reporting There are
a lot Of Fentanyl You know I wouldn't
call them factories But labs all over Canada
And it's produced there And then it gets
put into You know trucks That carry stuff
You know for our cars, our fenders and
bumpers And whatever else And it comes right
into America I think the president's right on
this At least from the reporting I see
And ABC went a little bit deeper into
this With what's the guy's name Kevin Hassett
Who's this guy Kevin Hassett He is Oh
he's one of the president's economic advisors Yes
he's the director of the National Economic Council
So we saw the president this week Impose
tariffs, delay a bunch of the tariffs And
then on Friday he said There are more
and bigger tariffs To come suggesting possibly As
high as 250% On Canadian dairy and
lumber Can you just explain In short What
is driving the president's decision making Let's go
through what happened this week Because I didn't
really think The way you guys characterized the
tariffs Made sense to me so I just
want to go back to what happened What
happened was that we launched A drug war,
not a trade war And it was part
of a negotiation To get Canada and Mexico
to stop shipping fentanyl Across our borders And
as we've watched them make progress On the
drug war Then we've relaxed some of the
tariffs That we've put on them Because they're
making progress And so that drug war is
something that's been going on Since really the
beginning of the Trump administration We've also announced
that we're going to put out a study
April 1st That says what is the harm
to America Of all the asymmetrical trade practices
Of foreign governments And what are we going
to do about it And that's the April
2nd number That you keep hearing the president
say So this isn't even a tariff on
trade This is just a tariff on drugs
Which is what was initially announced But somehow
it turned into Just A fog of tariff
war And they continued on this But let
me ask Because I am confused now By
what you're saying about this being a drug
war Not a trade war So let's just
take Canada I mean you said Canada's shipping
fentanyl into the United States I mean I
don't think that's happening I mean 1%
of fentanyl Is being smuggled across the border
1% I mean Canada's not a major
source At all of fentanyl in the United
States Well yes they are a major source
And I can tell you that in the
Situation Room I've seen photographs of fentanyl labs
In Canada that the law enforcement folks were
leaving alone Canada's got a big drug problem
Even in their own cities Go walk around
Toronto And see what it's like And you'll
see that it is a big problem And
frankly we have intelligence That Mexican cartels operate
in Canada as well And so if you
want to get the cartels out of the
U.S. You've got to get them out
of Canada and Mexico Okay but if you're
saying that this is an effort To make
them crack down And it's worked It's working
yes it's working Then why are these tariffs
going The very same tariffs going back into
effect on April 2nd Well we'll see what
happens So what's going on With the trade
war Is that we're going to have reciprocal
tariffs In April What's going on with the
drug war is we're trying to make progress
So there is a trade war In April
there's going to be a reciprocal tariff And
then if they lower their tariffs We'll lower
ours April 2nd The real tariffs And by
the way those are reciprocal tariffs 250%
on dairy Yeah we get screwed on the
dairy We can't send our dairy up there
They don't want our dairy Why is that
This protectionary I guess Total protectionary Because they
wouldn't have An industry at all Well this
of course has Fueled the And I'm pretty
sure This is all being fueled for the
Upcoming election in Canada At least of the
new prime minister We heard from Chrystia Freeland
Who is Using this Who nobody takes seriously
According to our Her I thought it was
a rumor But her dad actually was A
guy who collaborated with the Nazis It would
surprise me She sounds like it Just saying
And the real front runner though Is a
guy we know very well on the show
Mark Carney The front runner?
No no for the liberal party The liberal
party is done Well Mark Carney man He
returned home to his supporters To make his
bid for the party leadership Mark Carney made
it clear he wanted To become Canada's 24th
Prime Minister I'm back home in Edmonton To
declare my candidacy For leader of the liberal
party And prime minister He says he has
the experience Canada needs Consider this I've helped
manage multiple crises And I've helped save two
economies Mark Carney is a former Governor of
the Bank of Canada And a former governor
of the Bank of England He has served
as an advisor to Justin Trudeau And to
Boris Johnson Carney was born in Canada's remote
Northwest territories in 1965 He went to Harvard
and worked at Goldman Sachs Before being named
deputy governor Of the Bank of Canada in
2003 He became governor in 2008 At the
age of 42 In 2020 After almost 7
years At the Bank of England He served
as a UN envoy on finance and climate
change In the liberal party leadership battle He
argued Canada must fight The US President Donald
Trump And his tariffs by diversifying trading relations
He argues he's the only person Prepared to
handle Trump We have to recognize that the
Donald Trump of today Is different than the
Donald Trump Of several years ago Then his
objective was to Take more of our market
Now he wants to take Our country Yeah!
You're not Greenland Okay?
We don't want your country I mean we'd
love to have you as 51st state But
that's up to you guys We would fold
them in We'd have a great time Don't
you think it would be great to have
Canada Part of the United States?
Yeah that's never going to happen And I
don't want it to happen What's wrong with
you?
It would be great No you don't need
The complaining Canadians In the United States John
at Dvorak.org Everybody Canadians know what I'm
talking about Um Yeah So that's North America
By the way it was Freeland's grandfather Not
her dad, grandfather It was a Nazi collaborator
He wrote some Newspaper stuff Um I think
that again It's just like Thursday The action
is in Europe People are I mean the
European leadership Let's put it that way Are
so gung ho on war They really are
You know what you just said Because that
little anomaly is still there Oh really?
It was funny Because when you said gung
ho on war It kind of became People
in the chat room can confirm this You
know the sound that you always Ridicule me
for when I come in With that Mickey
Mouse sound Well you know what It's so
sparse And sporadic If it's on the clips
then I'd rather reboot the machine Yeah They're
saying it's back It's got to be the
machine It's Windows 10 John 10?
Yes, it's Windows 10 You should be using
11 by now I need to upgrade my
experience Everything has been rebooted And hopefully everything's
okay now Sorry for people out there bored
stiff Mimi always bitches when this happens She's
listening live But this is why people listen
live They love this, this is the best
part Oh they love it What time is
it Bill?
It's time to go home We We used
to have The biggest problems on Skype The
biggest problems And now Did you know that
Microsoft is shutting Down Skype in May Can
you believe it?
We're on the show I'm recording Microsoft's shutting
down Skype And why is that?
Because they never got the source code to
begin with They never knew how it worked
Those guys said Nah, we're selling you the
product How do you know they never got
the Source code?
When they originally sold Now I could be
wrong, they could have gotten it later I
could be wrong But when they sold it
was a big deal Those two guys, those
Norwegians or Swedes They actually Developed that all
in Amsterdam I met them there and I
was like This is never going to fly,
I'm not investing in you Classic Classic Something
of a mistake Classic But they had They
were going to give Microsoft The product But
they weren't going to tell them how it
worked And it was kind of a Big
deal, Microsoft was Typical, well It reminds me
of when Lohenbrau Was bought By Miller, I
think they bought it And the Lohenbrau Team
said Hey, which was a famous Beer at
the time They said hey you guys You
want us to send some brewmasters over To
show you how we make this stuff And
Miller's comment was According to folklore, Miller's comment
was No, we know how to make beer
You're telling me That Microsoft paid 8.5
Billion dollars And they didn't get the source
code?
I'm telling you that they didn't Get the
knowledge That they needed to know how the
product Worked, whether they got the source code
Or not, it's like you can get source
code But if it's not, you know Source
code doesn't mean anything if it's Spaghetti code
I mean they don't even know how Windows
works half the time Nor do we Apparently
Just kick it, shake it Turn it off
Because I remember the first time I was
in, I think Sweden And I was When
this product first Appeared on the scene before
Microsoft Owned it and I heard it Because
we were doing some presentations And people kept
getting these Skype messages And you'd listen to
people It was stunning The quality of the
sound It sounded like, I always call it
CD sound It sounded like a CD, it
was so crisp And Microsoft got it It
still sounded good and very slowly It started
to deteriorate And Now They can't even keep
the thing running And they're giving up on
it Just get teams And then of course
It reminds me, what was the name of
that SIP Well the SIP Still exists It's
a crap protocol that makes everything Sound crappy
And so everything that's any good Was always
proprietary Because you have some genius That figured
out Clean feed is the same way How
does this work Well I don't know, but
those guys They got an academy award for
clean feed Yeah, for good reason Yeah, it's
good stuff Anyway We're boring, this is too
much insight Exactly, alright I wanted to go
to To Europe, where there As I said
before, are many reboots They are out of
control They are completely abusing The European public,
and I know because I'm getting screaming emails
From people Like Trump can just do whatever
he wants You don't care He's just breaking
laws left and right He wants to start
World War 3 I'm like, what are you
talking about He ignores the courts There's so
much And by the way That's the elite
messaging system The M5M is doing its job
well People are completely Under their spell And
believe everything they hear Everything they read But
ultimately, you are the ones Being played by
your own leaders They want to complete the
European project And notice how they always Are
intertwining Europe and the EU This is the
President of the EU Parliament Roberta Mezzola I
think I'll be a little bit more blunt
Than usual today And our message on This
day of the Special European Council On Defence
is that It is about damn time This
is something that we have been Asking for
a long time That the European Union That
Europe is capable of Standing up on its
own two feet That's why we've been saying
We need to scale up, we need to
be prepared We need to produce And we
need to protect That is essentially what our
citizens are asking from us That is essentially
what it will take For Europe to say
That we are ready to put Finally our
money where our mouth is On Ukraine The
situation today Is exactly the same as it
was Three years ago Ukraine is fighting for
Europe And Europe needs to be Hand in
hand, lockstep Notice this, notice It's for Europe,
but only EU Has to pay, and the
UK of course Fighting for Europe And Europe
needs to be Hand in hand, lockstep With
whoever is fighting for our security For our
values, Ukraine's security Is Europe's security And today,
more than ever Also with the President of
the country We will stand with him and
we'll say We are with you, but to
do that We need to do more, we
need to make sure That even here we
put Our money where our mouth is That
we help financially That we help militarily And
we're able to say that yes What you
are fighting is what we will be fighting
for together I mean, that's the President Of
the European Union Parliament I mean, that's the
President Of the European Union Parliament I mean,
she's a warmonger And you're going to pay
for it EU Here's the Lithuanian President There's
no need to explain In a detailed way
How important is this meeting We are in
the fourth year Of the war in Ukraine
And Ukraine is buying The precious time for
us every day Paying with the blood So
it would be highly irresponsible To waste this
time And to have long hours discussions Without
a clear outcome So I think we have
Two very important proposals On the table, first
of all I appreciate the efforts Of the
President of the European Commission Ursula von der
Leyen For this 800 million Billion Euro plan
I think this is A step forward comparing
with this When I hear this guy He's
like, oh, I thank Ursula Queen Ursula for
the 800 billion Euro plan I hear a
guy who's going Money, money, money, money There's
money coming in, baby This is a step
forward comparing With the situation we are Now,
and it would be Really high assistance for
my country Because we have very ambitious target
In my country to spend For defense from
six To five To six percent of our
GDP It means a lot, but for that
We need more flexible treatment Of defense spending
While calculating the fiscal Deficit according to economic
Growth and stability Plan Then 20 billion Euros
Financial package for Ukraine You are smiling I
think this is very serious Because Lithuania is
Committed to contribute And to pay Our part
to this fund Because We are committed also
to support Ukraine by 0.25 percent Of
our GDP Each year We calculated If other
countries will commit To pay the same amount
Ukraine would receive 43 billion Euros And this
is a lot And this is really What
they need right now It's amazing what is
taking place In Germany Merz is trying to
get Their part of the Rearmament scheme Rammed
through before the new Parliament is compiled Or
chosen They got to shuffle stuff around To
get their majority They don't want the AFD
in there It's going to be a roadblock
They got to get going before the guys
Get their seats So they're going They want
to go to a trillion But they're going
to start It's all borrowed money They have
to undo Their handbrake legislation So they can
start borrowing that money And the French Well
they have a totally different plan They're taking
it from their own citizens Boosting France's defense
budget A pressing priority But where to find
the billions of Euros Needed?
One idea is to use French citizens' savings
By offering a new personal investment vehicle Based
on defense funds So it starts One option
is war bonds That's basically what this is
But then it gets crazier as it goes
on The war bonds thing goes back in
history To the World War I And a
lot of people think This whole thing is
a scam For war bonds to sucker everyone
Basically taking their money And turning it into
war bonds For the purposes of this So
this is some true I believe that to
be possible The United States has to get
away from This is like Well you know
NATO has kept The peace and blah blah
blah I've always said It's never been NATO
that's kept the peace It's the Nuclear deterrence
that's kept the peace Because people know what
would happen If you got into a conflagration
Conflagration Yes And NATO's just been there We
have to get out of NATO Because these
people, this is pent up The fact that
we've had peace for so long Is pent
up in Europe They want to get back
into fighting each other We continue We have
to get out of this This is not
good for us Yeah but let's listen to
how the French are getting screwed And then
we'll talk about that Investment vehicle based on
defence funds Not everyone is keen I'd rather
it be used for social good Or for
the environment Not the military I don't want
my money to be financing war Another option
The Livre A A tax-free government regulated
account Popular with French savers Its deposits are
currently used mostly To finance social housing Some
of that though could be reoriented Into defence
Whatever the product It will need to attract
investors To mobilise French savings Certainly you can
call on patriotism Defending the country But savers
will be looking at the returns If those
are low They'll prefer the Livre A Or
a tax-deferred investment account Other options include
directing funds From those tax-deferred investment accounts
Towards defence Incentivising institutional private investment Or reducing
interest rates For defence contractors The French state
itself Could borrow to fund more military spending
But not without consequence We have to be
careful We'd have no problem borrowing that money
But interest rates are higher now Than they
were before the financial crisis So this debt
will cost us more One option that President
Emmanuel Macron insists Is not on the table
Raising taxes Borrowing money is a taxation Taking
your savings Is more than a taxation The
French are going to wake up to this
And then No they're not The French They
do a lot of protests about one thing
or another But they can't This is relentless
But then there's a new player that pops
on the scene Unfortunately this is Euronews And
Euronews has I tried to Speed it up
as much as possible They've resorted to AI
voices now For their reports This is the
worst But it's the report that counts France
versus Germany The battle for Erdogan's favour And
the 150 billion euro European defence Funds between
France and Germany Over the European Commission's proposal
For a 150 billion euro investment In European
defence Whether these funds Should be exclusively reserved
For EU-based defence industries Or if they
should also benefit Non-EU partners Including Turkey
According to the Financial Times Turkish President Recep
Tayyip Erdogan Has already expressed interest In participating
in Europe's Joint defence effort Given Turkey's strong
military industry A divided Europe Last week European
Commission President Ursula von der Leyen Proposed a
150 billion euro Defence fund Aimed at boosting
Europe's military production While all EU member states
Support the idea Disagreements remain over Who should
receive the funding During the EU summit last
Thursday German Chancellor Olaf Scholz Argued that the
initiative should be Open to non-EU partners,
stating It is very important for us That
the projects we support Are also open to
countries that are not Part of the European
Union But maintain close cooperation with us Such
as the United Kingdom Norway, Switzerland And Turkey
However, French President Emmanuel Macron Strongly disagreed Insisting
that EU defence spending Should prioritise European manufacturers
These investments Should not be spent on equipment
That is not of European origin So they're
fighting over The money already And this is
just The first tranche The 150 billion that
Queen Ursula promised And Turkey's saying Hey we're
in NATO We've got NATO gear, you don't
have anything You gotta go build stuff So
they don't actually want to help Ukraine They
just want the money So we can have
a war economy And Macron Is making very
dangerous Noises The UK and many of the
Member states in the EU They have our
nukes I know the Netherlands has several But
France, they have their own Yeah, so is
the UK Yes, so if you want to
launch Something from the EU You've gotta get,
you've gotta sign the EULA I mean from
the EU You've gotta sign the EULA And
make a payment and then we'll give you
the code And we'll activate your nukes But
Macron Is like, he's got his own And
he's making dangerous noises In a televised address
Wednesday evening French President Emmanuel Macron Delivered a
stark message to his nation Macron warned That
Russian aggression knows no borders And could extend
beyond Ukraine Crazy He also said he would
consider extending French nuclear deterrence To other European
countries And that's a statement Russia condemned As
quote, very confrontational Macron also acknowledged That the
French people's worries are legitimate And said Europe
must prepare For a potential future without US
support Russia has become a threat to France
And Europe I want to believe that the
US will stand By us, but we have
to be ready If this is not the
case Whether or not peace in Ukraine Is
achieved quickly, Europe Must be able to defend
itself better And deter any further aggression And
the Kremlin is reacting Strongly to Macron's speech
By saying the French leader's comments Are an
indication that Paris wants to Prolong the war
in Ukraine And the Russian spokesman had particularly
Stern words for Macron's statement That he is
considering sharing France's nuclear Capabilities within Europe Of
course this is a threat against Russia If
Macron considers us a threat Gathers a meeting
of the chiefs Of general staffs of European
countries And Britain, says that nuclear Weapons need
to be used And prepares to use nuclear
weapons Against Russia This is certainly a threat
This, I mean I mean It's unbelievable, you've
got Mr. Peepers Coming in In In Germany
You've got Macron married to a dude And
you've got Starmer, who knows what his deal
is Yeah They've all gone insane And I,
you know They're suicidal maniacs Oh that's a
good way of putting it And Now if
we get out of NATO I mean, what
happens?
Well, all hell's gonna break loose I sure
hope not Well the thing is They keep
talking about Russia this, Russia that Russia has
taken What has Russia done so far?
They've taken pot shots at Ukraine With a
bunch of drones flying every which way And
glide bombs It's about as close as they
can get And the glide bombs hit whatever
they hit And they've taken the Donbass Which
is an area that they've controlled anyway Because
they're all Russian speakers And Crimea, which they
controlled anyway Because they took it over in
2014 They haven't done anything else They kind
of make an inroad here And an inroad
there And they lost the Kursk area Their
own part of their own country Because of
the Ukrainians So how is this a big
threat to France?
For all practical purposes France is a bigger
threat They're shaking their sword right there And
well, let's see what happens When one of
those 50 ton bombs The Russians have nukes
that are Nothing compared to the French The
French nukes are jokes by comparison To what
the Russians have 150 ton bomb Would take
Paris in a second And they can Take
all their nuclear missiles And recalibrate where they're
going to be targeted And good luck France
Give me a break These guys are idiots
I don't understand why The Europeans They're kind
of silent Except for the ones yelling at
me Because it's all Trump's fault We had
in Fredericksburg yesterday 50 protesters With Ukraine flags
On Main Street What?
In Fredericksburg?
In Fredericksburg You don't even have that in
Berkeley I think that was the entire Democrat
Representation in Fredericksburg But yeah, I was surprised
Well there's a couple Of organizations that Mimi
turned me on to That are floating around
501 Somebody in the chat room knows this
I think it's called 505104 There's some number
And it's a national organization There's about 2
or 3 of them .org .com And they
are organizing These little events all over the
country Constantly I think it stands for 50
states 50 events So it would be 5050
01 maybe That's what it is And 50
events, 50 states Something like that Is that
an ActBlue or a Soros?
Soros!
I don't see any ActBlue connections But it's
obviously ActBlue Because they have the same website
look And there's a certain web designers That
do all these sites Are all the same
And that's probably who organized That Fredericksburg thing
This group So Tina said she drove by
And gave a thumbs down And the people
went, well God bless you Have a blessed
day I would give a thumbs up And
go in with a microphone And start chatting
So Now there's also Implications Depending on how
this goes There's implications for Five Eyes And
of course Australia is dangling down there With
a cyclone going on Which not many people
are talking about But it seems to be
pretty bad From people I know down there
Power is going out And all kinds of
stuff is happening It's a big hurricane But
Europe wants to The European Union wants to
Tie up with Australia You have the UK
And this is Fiona Hill She was on
Face the Nation She is I think CFR
Brookings Institution I think she also worked in
the UK government Here she is on Face
the Nation The US pauses of lethal intelligence
sharing Including targeting data For US provided weapons
like HIMARS We also know it extends To
satellite imagery Which is no longer being shared
with Ukraine What's the practical impact of that
And the military freeze?
Well I think we can see the impact
It's certainly on the one hand emboldened Russia
To really step up the attacks And it's
also not just blindsided But also partially blinded
Ukraine I mean we heard from the previous
segment That there's still some sharing With allies
like the United Kingdom of course Which is
part of the Five Eyes sharing With the
United States But frankly none of the other
Allies including the UK Have the same access
to satellite imagery As the United States does
So even if there is some sharing Not
much restrictions This certainly has an impact And
frankly I think it's going to be an
impetus To other allies to start stepping up
their own capabilities And questioning themselves About the
virtues of sharing with the United States I
mean this is a two way street We
have to remember that other countries Also share
pretty vital information With the United States Even
if the scale is not quite the same
Huh So as it turns out everybody's leeching
off of our data As per usual Yeah
we're the ones with all the satellites We're
the ones with all the good data We
have the targeting information We got the data
people Alright how will Five Eyes respond This
woman is a spook Oh of course she
is The UK, Australia among those who do
so You think they will essentially punish the
US By not sharing intelligence I'm not sure
whether it's punishment But it'll be a lot
of questioning About what actually happens with this
Because if you're bundling together intelligence And then
effectively the United States Is putting restrictions on
that Was that pre-discussed With our Five
Eyes allies for example Or with other allies
Particularly in the midst of Basically a conflict
Before I continue this clip What do you
think the odds are that Trump Is so
hacked off at Five Eyes And for all
the stuff they did To him in his
first To him In his first go around
That he's just going to tell them to
screw off too I think He's been doing
that consistently A conflict That is as we've
heard over and over again The largest land
war in Europe Since World War II This
is really unprecedented In terms of the actions
of the United States In this regard because
it's not just Affecting Ukraine Looking at her
background We're not hearing her We're hearing MI6
complaining Yeah I agree It's having knock on
effects For all of our other allies Who
are directly affected All of our European allies
That are directly affected by this conflict Then
of course The horrible things that President Trump
Said about Putin In other words he said
Yeah Putin's doing what I would do So
President Trump said on Friday when he was
asked If this uptick in Putin's bombing Was
directly related to the US halt Here's what
he said I actually think he's doing What
anybody else would do I think he's I
think he wants To get it stopped and
settled And I think he's hitting them harder
Than he's been hitting them And I think
probably anybody In that position would be doing
that right now Yet earlier in the day
The President had posted on social media He
was considering possibly Putting sanctions on Russia That's
a contradiction Contradiction What do you make of
what he said?
I make of it exactly what he said
I mean he's actually Obviously putting himself in
the shoes of Vladimir Putin And saying that
if I were the aggressor That's exactly what
I would be doing If I wanted to
make Ukraine capitulate So I mean yeah he
called it as it is I don't believe
what he said for a second about the
sanctions I believe more what he just said
There in the Oval Office Sitting behind the
Resolute Desk I mean I think that's what
you can take away from this He believes
the President I think he should I mean
he's the President of the United States And
he made it crystal clear I think And
he sees obviously The Ukrainians And he said
that in the Oval Office During the meeting
with President Zelensky That he sees them on
the back foot as losing And he's basically
telling them That they have to capitulate Very
clear She's interpreting it of course Yeah she's
a mind reader now And as you correctly
pointed out She's a spook And so she
has some information From Spook Central The Council
on Foreign Relations You don't have the cards
was the line he kept using So I
know you were at the Council on Foreign
Relations This week as was I I had
an interview As was I?
What?
Who is this?
Margaret Brennan As was I I was at
the briefing of the spooks As was I
I had an interview with Trump's envoy to
Ukraine Keith Kellogg And when we were discussing
The President's decision to cut off Ukraine He
said Ukrainians Brought it on themselves And the
decision was like Hitting a mule with a
2x4 Across the nose You got their attention
Comparing our ally to a farm animal here
That needed to be beaten Oh no the
audacity In diplomacy you really should Only be
speaking in your native language And I think
there was a lot of this Which was
lost in translation First of all President Zelensky
didn't fully understand That this agreement was just
purely With President Trump And President Zelensky didn't
quite follow all of this Because like the
rest of our allies He actually thinks that
Commitments made by the United States Are supposed
to hold over successive administrations And what we
learned there And what he learned there was
that is not the case You're essentially going
to have to make a new Commitment with
President Trump It's a personal commitment And that
was what he was being told And he
didn't fully understand And I think in future
when the Ukrainians are meeting With the Americans
They ought to have translators with them Because
as good as President Zelensky's English is There's
two things that he's missing He doesn't quite
understand the way that President Trump operates Although
I think he's probably got the message now
But he doesn't always understand the nuances And
I would also think that Our side on
the United States side Could do with some
interpretation as well So the way I read
that from the Council On Foreign Relations is
Oh no no, it's not Zelensky's fault He
didn't screw it up He's a good guy,
he just didn't understand What it meant when
President Trump said You don't have any cards
I want to mention something here Just so
we clarify Because it's never mentioned by Margaret
That she was not only doing an interview
While she was at the Council on Foreign
Relations And she's talking to a member of
the Council On Foreign Relations She herself, I'm
looking at the roster She herself is a
member Of the Council on Foreign Relations Margaret
Brennan, the journalist Is a member of the
Council on Foreign Relations And she does not
disclose that Oh wow Gambling?
I'm very surprised You're not surprised Ian Bremmer
is also One of the things Another good
one Well, I'm very sad for this turn
of events And I don't know if President
Trump has more cards up his sleeve To
bring all this back Into Some kind of
normalcy And I don't know if he can
The Europeans They have a secondary agenda That
they are just not being honest about They
want a war economy They have a problem
with their economy in general As does everybody
And so they're, well, we need more factories
We need to borrow money It's a racket
Every single time But if you don't have
the reserve currency Like the US has Which
is also coming to its end now You
can't What?
Not necessarily It's not great Let's put it
that way It's not great But they can't
just be printing money all over the place
Not everybody wants euros I'm sure they think
They'd want that to be The reserve currency
But it's this I have And you just
look at the M5M here in the US
Doge, Elon Doge They are the ones that
are stupid They're not giving anybody any useful
information And we all Have roots back in
Europe But no No, no, no, it's just
all Trump It's Trump, he did it all
It was Certainly, it was the United States
Who started this whole This whole mess We
lied We lied with Baker Before that We
lied with Baker, that's when we started it
Actually We don't know that that was a
lie Baker may have been sincere Maybe Baker
was reflecting Because that was right after the
fall Of the Soviet Union It fell apart
And we made the promises to the Russians
That we weren't going to move NATO around
anymore Because it wasn't the threat that it
once was And that doesn't I don't think
it was a long term scheme I think
it's just later That it devolved I could
be wrong But now you see the power
of propaganda And the power of Of mainstream
Which still lingers Because no one has ever
received this information They don't know anything about
it And Putin for years has been saying
Stop expanding NATO Stop expanding NATO Until he
was fed up And then the little twerp
over there in Ukraine Said, well maybe we'll
get some nukes over here And that's when
he Went for it, after we had already
Committed a coup in that country So the
whole thing is shameful And President Trump is
actually Trying to fix some stuff But oh
no He's getting zero help In fact Before
you play that, I want to play a
little sub clip This is an example You
know Trump just got in Trump's approval rating
as far as I can tell Is quite
high for a president Never as low for
a president this early In his administration, ever
And people Most people, at least if you
look at the Social media Even the black
folk Like the fact that Musk is kicking
ass The black folk But yet On the
latest version of Margaret Hoover's show Firing Line,
which is a take off Which is the
modern version Of the William F.
Buckley show When he was very erudite He
was kind of mocked for being so And
Margaret Brennan Has the temerity To use that
word To think she could be Another William
F.
Buckley She's a clownish Blonde, who used to
be on The O'Reilly Factor as a
stooge She Opens the latest show with this
little Ditty, with a guy that's With a
guy who is the columnist for The New
York Times, here we go Welcome to Firing
Line Thanks so much for having me Margaret,
it's great to be here President Trump delivered
his first Address to Congress this week And
declared that he had Accomplished more in 43
days Than most administrations accomplish In four Or
eight years The fact is, the economy Is
showing some flashing signs His approval rating Is
lower than any modern president At this point
in his term And his alliance with Elon
Musk is deeply unpopular How do you assess
The opportunities And the real risks Of the
moment we're in I mean, I think what
you've just said Is basically correct Yeah, she's
no William F.
Buckley So that's what We have to deal
with PBS, thank you very much People, stop
sending your money to them Here is the
report about The ongoing negotiations Taking place in
Where's it going to take place?
Saudi Arabia With Russian airstrikes Continuing to rain
down on Ukraine As Moscow claims more advances
The pressure for Kiev to end the three
-year war Is at boiling point President Zelensky
has confirmed Ukrainian negotiators Will travel to Saudi
Arabia next week For talks with U.S.
officials And he is optimistic for dialogue We
are preparing a meeting In Saudi Arabia I'm
confident that the meeting will be productive We
in Ukraine are committed to this We will
do our best to ensure that Ukrainian Interests
are taken into account Taken into account in
the right way Zelensky will also be present
In the Gulf Kingdom for his pre-planned
Visit with Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman Though
he will not be participating In the negotiations
The war is at a critical juncture for
Kiev After Donald Trump suspended crucial U.S.
military aid For Ukraine After his very public
clash with Zelensky In the Oval Office last
week Trump has also defended Russia's relentless bombardment
On Ukraine since the aid pause Calling it
what anybody would do The Saudi talks though
show a step forward For Kiev in repairing
ties with Washington That's not defending That's not
defending He wasn't defending it He was just
saying that's what anyone would do That's not
the same as defending This is a false
report It's France Vincatra You know The people
with the nukes After Donald Trump suspended crucial
U.S. military aid For Ukraine After his
very public clash with Zelensky In the Oval
Office last week Trump has also defended Russia's
relentless bombardment On Ukraine since the aid pause
Calling it what anybody would do The Saudi
talks though show a step forward For Kiev
in repairing ties with Washington With the U
.S. envoy saying Thursday The idea is to
create a framework For a longer agreement I
think that the President has said That there's
a path back And President Zelensky has demonstrated
That he's intent on that Good faith path
back He's apologized He said he's grateful He
said that he wants to work towards peace
Oh he's apologized He's grateful I don't think
that was really the issue Ever But you're
talking About the The speech The joint The
joint session Not the State of the Union
State speech Yeah just the speech I noticed
something That happened while the President was speaking
And it was corroborated And I'd kind of
forgotten about it Did you notice that while
he was speaking A little white dot appeared
On his left sleeve No Well I noticed
it because you know He has a blue
jacket on All of a sudden there's this
white dot I'm like oh I didn't know
this It's almost like one of those very
small pieces Of styrofoam Like a round styrofoam
ball It turns out one of the Democrats
Shot a spitball at him Is that right?
Yes I don't have confirmation on who did
it yet But somebody shot a spitball That's
how Wow this is like the 5th grade
Or something It's amazing It's amazing You can
go back and take a look at it
It wouldn't actually completely surprise me No So
for those of you Not in America A
spitball is done with a straw And you
take a little piece of paper And you
put it in your mouth and make it
all nice and wet And you jam it
into the straw And then you shoot it
out It's like a blowgun It's a kid's
version of a blowgun And if you've ever
used a blowgun I don't know if you've
ever had a real one Many times Those
things are astonishingly accurate And powerful You know
back in the day In the Netherlands When
we first arrived there in 72 All the
kids were walking around With the same device
And I was like What is this?
So you get a piece of PVC pipe
And they'd saw it off You know just
that regular plastic Kind of beige-ish PVC
pipe That you put Wiring through And then
they'd walk around with this With strips of
newspaper In their belt And they'd whip a
piece out Wrap it around their finger Make
it into a dart, rip off the tail
end So it fits perfectly into the tube
And they would just be shooting blow darts
At each other all the time I got
really good at rolling those darts Actually that
was the precursor to my joints I think
Well I used a commercial blow dart A
big one It was about 4 feet long
And it had a real dart And it
was pretty amazing Wait I have a jingle
for us Where is it?
Someone sent a couple of these in Yeah
here it is We are the boomers Born
to be wild and free Check out my
new Harley Boomers Yeah baby And no we're
not quite there yet We are the boomers
Although technically I have learned I'm Generation John
Jones, I'm sorry Generation Jones Jones?
Yes It has a Wikipedia page so it's
true Oh yeah Some guy like you put
it up Generation Jones Is the generational social
cohort Between the baby boomers And Generation X
So being born in 1964 I'm officially Generation
Jones Unfortunately Is it just that year or
is it a couple of years?
Do you have some leeway here to be
a Jones?
Yeah the leeway is No wonder you're Jonesing
all the time It's really 64 But if
you look at the At the people who
are my Fellow Generation Jonesers Bill Gates Neil
deGrasse Tyson Barack Obama I'd rather be a
boomer than with those guys That's no good
Creeps So there was a report In the
New York Times about a Rift that occurred
Between Elon Musk And Marco Rubio Yes this
New York Times report And it's also Maggie
Haberman I think has something to do with
it I don't trust her at all She's
the co-author Some brand new reporting in
the New York Times today On a confrontation
of sorts Inside the White House between Elon
Musk And several members of Donald Trump's new
cabinet Is this Nicole Wallace?
Of course it's Nicole Wallace Of course she's
beautiful To the role of spectator The Times
cites five people with knowledge Of the confrontation
Reports this about an argument between Elon Musk
and Marco Rubio Quote Quote
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So I of course don't know If there
was a real You know huffy shouting match
Or something that went on But I do
know first hand information That the Doge people
Were kicked out Even the unregistered Doge people
Were kicked out You know because there were
some other Some other personnel That were put
in That you know were Kicked out of
what the meeting or the State Department?
State Department and this is bad because I
was a bad because the State Department is
more trouble than USAID.
Oh no, the State Department is the worst
and they have their own secret they have
their own spy agency that nobody wants to
talk about.
Exactly so Rubio I think we have to
keep a sharp eye on and and maybe
President Trump is all in it's like okay
you keep your you keep your your secret
intelligence group you keep all I mean every
single embassy is a CIA station haven't heard
much about the CIA lately either.
No they're laying low for some reason.
Well maybe it's it's related but there's I
mean not clearing out the State Department and
okay whatever 1,500 people took voluntary leave
they took the buyout fine.
I'm I'm skeptical about the the State Department.
Well you should be.
Yeah but we could do a whole Lib
Joe episode on that alone.
Oh can you believe it it the bromance
is over the bromance is over Elon's not
allowed to do anything he's being curtailed by
Trump.
Orange man no good.
Some people actually like that.
Yeah.
No when we did that on the last
show.
The skit you mean?
Yeah the skit we did what I got
back was wow y'all you sounded so
much happier it was much more light-hearted.
What do you mean he sounded happier?
Two guys grousing about the president.
I'm just telling you that that's how they
heard it.
It was music to their ears.
Anyway here's the NBC follow-up on this.
All of this comes against the backdrop of
these tensions between Elon Musk who's charged with
slashing the federal government and the cabinet secretaries.
I asked Secretary Lutnick about that he wouldn't.
This is old Manhans talking now isn't it?
Who?
Manhans the Welker.
Isn't this Welker?
I'm not sure.
The one they have to yellow up?
No no no this is Courtney Cube.
Courtney Cube?
I never heard of her.
Yeah oh well I looked her up for
you somewhere.
She's a she's a correspondent.
Secretary Lutnick about that he wouldn't kind of
go so far as to say look bottom
line the president said we're all in charge
of our own agencies but what are you
hearing about?
You're right this is Manhans now Cube comes
in.
What came out of that meeting?
Yeah yeah that's right I mean this is
the first time that we've heard that some
frustrations that frankly have been in place for
several weeks now are actually boiling over and
what I was really struck by was they
boiled over in front of President Trump.
So in this case there were several the
confronted Elon Musk on Thursday about the way
that Doge is doing these firings.
So it's not just the firings in general
but how they are doing it cutting thousands
of employees in some cases having to bring
some of them back because they are not
taking into account employees performance or some of
the critical nature of the jobs that they're
doing.
That was really at issue here.
Now this is something that Republicans have been
concerned about that's why Elon Musk met with
them Wednesday night on the Hill.
They met for two hours but at the
end of the day Elon Musk still has
a lot of authority.
What we did see out of this cabinet
meeting was President Trump said look the secretaries
have the authority to make their own firings
here but if you don't do enough Doge
will step in.
Remember most of these secretaries will do enough.
I will say the president also walked out
of it saying Elon Musk is doing an
amazing job.
I think his role as first buddy is
probably still pretty safe.
First buddy?
Slow down for God's sake.
I got some Doge clips I got to
play.
Give me some Doge.
You got any Doge?
How much Doge do you got?
I got three, four Doge clips but let's
play this one.
Doge NPR.
This is the NPR report.
Millions of federal workers are still weighing how
to respond to a second email sent over
the weekend asking them to justify their jobs.
Wait, they're still doing this?
Another round.
Oh another round.
NPR's Bobby Allen reports the messages are part
of Elon Musk's push to root out dead
or non-existent workers.
Musk has now asked the federal workforce twice
to list five bullet points about their accomplishments.
He said ignoring it could lead to termination.
To former Twitter employees it sounds familiar.
When Musk took over the social media company
he launched a payroll audit to see how
many fake people were on Twitter's payroll.
Ian Brown worked at Twitter for nearly a
decade.
The wild sort of paranoia of just like
woke zombies not doing stuff is just complete
fantasy.
Musk has called the messages a pulse check
suggesting without evidence Without evidence.
Without evidence that taxpayers are paying the salaries
and benefits of phantom employees.
That always happens in government.
It always happens without evidence.
Of course.
Without evidence.
Well let's go to the Doge analysis from
NPR and of course the at sign means
two.
Yeah I gotcha.
I don't know why I keep doing that
but here we go.
Here's Doge analysis.
Yes.
It's exactly what the clip says.
The headlines say new limits on Elon Musk.
And that guy right there.
This guy is so awesome.
I like this guy.
There's a new analysis on Elon Musk.
The headlines say new limits on Elon Musk.
And that President Trump is reigning in Doge.
The president put it in the Oval Office
this week.
Referring to his cabinet secretaries.
So we're going to be watching them and
Elon and the group are going to be
watching them and if they can cut it's
better.
And if they don't cut then Elon will
do the cutting.
NPR senior Washington editor and correspondent Ron Elving
joins us.
Ron thanks for being with us.
Good to be with this guy.
What are we seeing?
Are they putting a leash on that Doge?
It's been seen that way.
When he says it's even better.
Are they putting a leash on that Doge?
What are we seeing?
Are they putting a leash on that Doge?
It's been sold that way.
Like it's Trump siding with his cabinet over
Musk.
But if you listen to that clip we
just heard.
It still seems that Musk gets to come
along batting clean up and deciding whether the
cabinet secretaries and other Senate confirmed officials have
done enough.
So who decides what's enough?
Is it Musk or is it Trump himself?
And do we know whether that's really a
difference?
The New York Times reporters Maggie Haberman and
Jonathan Swan have reported that there have been
clashes between Musk and members of the cabinet
including Secretary of State Marco Rubio, Transportation Secretary
Sean Duffy, both of whom were reported to
have been scolded by Musk for not cutting
enough and for having too many DEI hires
still working for their departments.
It's outrageous, I tell you.
Put a leash on that Doge.
I'm no Elon Musk fan, but I kind
of take his side in this.
There's a funny thing before I play the
second clip.
They're trying to slander him as much as
they can.
And the Atlantic is the one that's kind
of a go-to for this sort of
thing.
The Atlantic, which had an article recently on
how if you have your own backyard chickens,
you're losing your ass on the free eggs.
Oh, really?
I would talk about it some other time.
But in that same issue, they had a
report on Musk being a ketamine freak.
Yeah.
So he's like on ketamine.
So he's got that same, you know, Kevin
Rose is a big fan of ketamine.
All these guys are ketamine guys.
And they all end up with that funny
look on their face.
And I realized that, yeah, I guess he
is.
You know who else is on ketamine?
Who?
Professor Scott Galloway.
Oh, that doesn't surprise me.
Yeah, he's also doing the ketamine thing.
And the article talks about how Musk started
using ketamine because he's a depressive.
And it brings you out of depression.
And I think Rose talked about this too.
And then you get locked into this kind
of funny state of mind, which they claim
makes you feel.
And I relate this back to, I think,
the 1981, 1982 era when Time magazine made
cocaine the man of the year.
I missed that one.
And in the article about cocaine, they said
that cocaine makes you feel like you're –
gives you overconfidence.
And it sounds as if the ketamine does
the same thing.
You sound like – you're a world beater.
And as I was reading this, then I
find out that Kevin Rose has restarted Digg.
He's rebooted it.
And I'm thinking, well, that's kind of an
interesting ego thing to do for him.
But with Musk being all jacked up on
ketamine because he's – I guess he's gone
in and out of overusing it, you know,
beyond what he's supposed to.
It's disconcerting.
Well, let's just tell everybody what ketamine is.
Ketamine is a horse tranquilizer.
It's a horse tranquilizer that the zombies like
to use in San Francisco.
It was first – that's when it first
showed up in the news around here where
the fentanyl users would use fentanyl and ketamine.
And you can still see – you can
go drive around San Francisco downtown and see
these guys.
They're kind of hunched over.
Bent over, yeah.
They can't stand completely up straight and they
walk with a stagger, a weird stagger.
And they're just wandering around San Francisco all
over the place and disheveled.
They're disheveled and their clothes are dirty and
their pants are falling off.
And this is the combination of fentanyl and
ketamine, which is called the zombie drug.
I'm not happy about this.
No.
Fentanyl and ketamine is called the breakfast of
champions.
Yes, and you can see the mini champions
roaming around the streets of San Francisco pooping
in the street in the champion way.
But the – so there's a moment in
the ketamine usage where you fall into the
so-called K-hole.
And the K-hole is when you're just
completely immobilized.
And you can see what's going on, but
you can't speak.
You can't move.
You're just in the K-hole.
Yeah, this is not the K-hole itself
as that term is not discussed, but they
do discuss the dissociative characteristics where you dissociate.
In other words, you leave your body.
Yeah, so maybe Elon's in a constant state
of K-hole or on the edge.
Man, just about five lines went by me
that I could have used.
And not a one came out.
What good are you?
Not one came out.
Well, that's because of the daylight savings time.
All right.
That's the reason.
Part two.
Part two.
Is the Department of Government deficiency a potential
political liability for congressional Republicans?
Because after all, federal jobs are getting cut
in their states.
Yes, that's right.
It's not a clear liability yet, at least
not for Republicans in Congress.
Because as we saw on Tuesday night at
the State of the Union, Musk is still
a hero to Trump fans both in Congress
and beyond.
Musk still polls well among Trump supporters.
But the Musk stock may have seen its
peak, Scott.
We will see how the cuts to veterans
affairs staffing, for example, go down with the
families of vets in the care of the
VA.
And we'll also see how much Musk gets
to do with Social Security.
That's the most popular federal program in history
by all measures.
But Musk has compared Social Security to an
illegal private investment swindle.
He did that on Joe Rogan's podcast last
month.
Everybody's got a podcast.
And I bet you that you have that
as an ISO.
You better.
Do you have that as an ISO?
Everybody's got a podcast.
So first of all, he called it a
Ponzi scheme, which it is.
He called it a Ponzi scheme.
It's a Ponzi scheme because they've been stealing
from the fund.
Yeah.
And so just take the money from the
new people and give it to the old
people.
It is a literal Ponzi scheme.
It's not the way it was designed.
No, it's not the way it was designed.
It was designed as a separate fund, an
insurance fund, separate from the basic tax pot
of taxes.
But what they're doing here and they're continuously
scaring Americans with this.
Oh, he's coming for your Social Security.
He's coming for your Medicaid.
Well, the fact is the government got your
Social Security a long time ago.
There is no Social Security unless we keep
making babies and new people to fund the
Social Security so you get your checks.
So that's just not true.
And what is he coming for?
They're always doing this.
You don't want him with your sensitive information,
but everyone gives it to TikTok, to Instagram
and Facebook.
I know, it's ludicrous.
Give me a break.
But it's working.
It's working.
And I feel so bad because we're seeing
the same kind of splits happening in families
and friendships that happened during COVID.
It's exactly the same.
It's not that funny.
It's funny to me.
Yeah, you have no friends.
Do you have family?
I know, I lost all my friends.
You lost all your friends during COVID.
You finally got the Lib Joe's back.
Be careful.
Be careful.
They got the Lib Joe's back barely.
Don't bet with them.
They'll just get mad.
You know, talking about the bet, I hate
to do this to my own son.
What did you do?
I wish people would stop betting with me.
I just don't lose these bets.
You've actually been kind to me and saying,
no, I'm not going to take that bet.
But yet you bet your own flesh and
blood?
What was the bet for?
It was because it was at the dinner
table and everyone witnessed this, and I didn't
look like I was going to be a
weenie and back down from this idiotic bet.
But this is another one of these political
bets.
And this was, I don't know what got
into him because he's a smart kid.
He's like, you know.
Yeah, he's brilliant.
He's brilliant.
He says, and he insisted the bet be
500 bucks.
I think I got you for 500 once.
At least once.
And I told you not to bet anymore.
You wanted to bet five grand or something
ridiculous.
That was on the Facebook stock price, which
you very graciously said, no, I'm not going
to take that bet.
I don't want to take money from a
baby.
And you were right.
It was great.
I appreciate that.
But, well, never mind.
Doesn't matter.
Here's the bet.
J.D. Vance is going to run in
20.
I can't believe this.
Can I get it on the action here?
Is it still time?
You probably could, but I'm not going to
allow it.
J.D. Vance is going to run for
president in 2028, and the vice president is
going to be Trump.
Oh, man.
That's like a Fredericksburg rumor.
Only it used to be the vice president
would be JFK Jr. They've kind of let
that go.
No, he is alive.
I argued with him about the idiocy of
this concept, and he said, no, because then
he talked about the law about getting in
for eight years or whatever, and he went
on and on.
Totally convinced of it.
I have no idea where he got this
from.
He insisted on the bet, and he insisted
on the bet being inflation-proof.
Inflation-proof?
Yes.
In other words, today's 500 bucks, whatever it's
worth in four years, will be what the
total amount of the bet will be.
So he's going to owe me more by
540 bucks or something.
Wow.
Just beyond me.
You've got to stick that kid back in
the womb.
He needs some rebaking.
I don't get it.
He needs rebaking.
That's no good.
And why do these bets come my way
like this?
Because they think they can take money from
an old man, and I learned a long
time ago that's a big mistake.
It's a big mistake.
When it comes to these bets.
Don't try to take money from.
Well, oh, wait.
Oh, that's a very good idea.
Hold on a second.
Hold on.
I'm not going to say it on the
air yet, because I want to make sure
I can get it.
This is a very good idea.
I like this idea.
So we have one more doge clip, which
is just kind of a throwaway.
This is the doge suit and how it's
working backwards.
Okay.
The attorneys general of Washington D.C. and
19 states are suing more than 20 federal
agencies over the firings of probationary employees.
NPR's Andrea Hsu reports.
The Democratic attorneys general argue that federal agencies
falsely told probationary employees they were being fired
because of their performance.
In fact, the states argue the agencies were
trying to shrink their headcount, but they failed
to follow proper procedures for doing so.
Federal law requires agencies to notify states when
laying off 50 or more people so that
states can jump into action and try to
prevent instability throughout the economic region.
States are required to reach out to those
losing their jobs and provide support with the
goal of reducing their reliance on public assistance.
The states have asked the federal court to
reinstate the workers.
So I tried to get Trump, vp.com
already taken.
Let me try Trump, vp, 2028.com.
Oh yeah.
Boom.
Got it.
That'll be worth something.
Probably.
This is, this is if my son has
this in his brain, that means it came.
Yeah.
Trump.
Why is it out there?
Is it people are nuts?
Well, but this is where we're at.
I mean, have you looked at X lately?
I mean, just look at what's going on.
I mean, there's a lot of nutty things
out there right now.
A lot, mainly from Ian, Ian Carroll.
He seems to be the main progenitor.
You've seen Ian Carroll.
You've seen.
Yes.
And here's the, here's an example of what's
on the exit you're talking about.
This is Jasmine Crockett.
Oh gosh.
Okay.
And I have the documentation that she's nuts,
but she's like a leading candidate for president.
Isn't she from Texas?
Yeah.
She's a Texas girl.
Yeah.
All of a sudden she's talking like she's
from the Bronx.
Yeah.
You know, and not only that, but if
people have looked into her background, she was
a privileged black girl.
She went to private schools, finishing school for
all practical purposes.
And then she, but she tries to be
ghetto.
Okay.
City law enforcement, local law enforcement.
They are always going after crime and they
don't say, oh, you committed a murder.
Oh, but you're an immigrant.
Well, let me let you go.
Right?
So they are always focused on crime.
They continue to say things like the illegals
and that they broke the law coming in.
But what they're not telling the American people
is that it is a civil violation.
It is not a criminal violation to enter
the country illegally.
It's not, it's not a criminal it's crime.
It's not a crime, which is why they're
so frustrated because they really want our local
law enforcement to go out and round up
people when they could be looking out for
the murderers and the sexual abusers, as well
as the robbers.
They want them to go and round people
up on civil accusations.
And so that's why I wanted to point
out, don't give me this fake outrage about
criminals roaming our streets.
When you guys stand 10 toes down for
the biggest criminal that we have ever seen
going to the white house.
Well, AOC has a problem as far as
I'm concerned.
That's not AOC.
No, that's I know it's not.
Oh, you mean because of the president theory?
Well, just that she's just, this girl's going
to beat her out.
Just in general.
There's a, there's a new sheriff in town.
AOC is getting tired.
You know, she had a lot going for
her.
I could get clips from her.
She's hanging into her.
I want to just talk about what, what
Jasmine said.
This is bull crap.
Okay.
Really simply be okay.
Now she's right about simply being present in
the U S without papers is a civil
offense.
This is true.
And she's assuming that in other words, you're
a student, you come in, you stay, stay
your visa.
Lots of students have done.
And there's lots of that.
However, I'm going to take this right from
the, from the, from the document here.
However, entering our or entering or reentering the
U S without proper authorization can be criminal.
Specifically eight U S code 1325 makes improper
entry, a misdemeanor, which is a crime punishable
by up to six months in prison and
or a fine, but.
U S code 1326 of section eight or
eight U S code makes it illegal to
enter.
It makes a, it makes it a felony.
If you've been thrown out and then you
come back in.
Yes.
With penalties that can include up to two
years in prison and more under certain circumstances.
So, so she's full of crap though, about
it being civil.
This is misdemeanor and felony, both current criminal.
She's, she's nuts.
And, and people listened.
Oh, okay.
Just look it up.
She's having her moments.
Let her have her moments.
She's having a moment.
No, they're giving her a moment because they,
because she, because I've got no one else.
Good media.
They've got, she's pretty good.
They've got no one else.
Did you see cusses?
She acts ghetto.
Did you see that?
The, the purple witch creep from Connecticut?
Oh, I love her.
She's great for the show, but I don't
know if you can, I have, I pulled
the clip.
It's no good for the show.
Cause you can't see her.
You have to see her.
She looks like an old witch, an old
crone.
Crone.
How do you spell that?
C R O N E.
An old, what is an old crone?
An old crone, a crone.
Oh, that's a, that's a wizened old woman.
That's a, that's supposedly smart.
And, and, but it's, it's a crone.
She's a crone.
She's an old crone.
Her name is Rosa DeLauro.
DeCrone.
She's from New York.
Rosa DeCrone.
She's Connecticut.
She's the Connecticut.
Oh, I'm sorry.
Right.
She's good.
Well, New York, Connecticut.
What difference does it make?
So it's a, it's as if someone went
to the Trump Gen Z group and said,
Hey, tell this lady that she needs to
do her video like this.
And she throws in skibbity and sus and
cringe and the bag.
Yo, this is the ranking Rizzler on appropriations.
The rankling Rizzler.
Serving Connecticut's third district.
It's time to enter your dark academia Congress
era.
All right, besties.
House appropriation is the money moves in Congress.
We are not chasing the bag.
We are the bag.
Democrats are making life smoother for government funding.
It's giving skibbity.
So Sigma main character energy, but Republicans project
2025 is mad sus.
Eliminating the department of education, negative borrow points.
Basically the biggest fandom tax on the environment,
on your education and your rights.
Big L posting it online, buddy.
Democrats understood the assignment, but go off.
See how I keep you informed.
Very cutesy, very demure.
Everybody's trying something.
Everybody's trying to get some kind of viral
moment to become the leader or the front
runner.
I mean, it's wide open.
There's, there's nobody leading the Democrat to become
the leader.
Well, she look at her hair.
Did she expect for people to think that
was a good look?
No.
Now she, she's nuts.
Well, she's deluded.
He makes it so good.
Speaking of, uh, unfortunately people should try to
track that.
They showed it a lot all over the
place.
It's all over the place.
You have to see it to appreciate it.
Yes, this is not a great clip.
Well, the troll room who hadn't heard it,
there were, they liked it.
So speaking of a delusional, um, Rachel Maddow,
sorry.
I actually have two clips today from Rachel
Maddow because, you know, she is back because
she was banned from the show, but she's
here only for a hundred days.
So we, you know, we can, we can
ban her.
She's unbanned temporarily unbanned because she was, she,
she, Hey, Hey, she gets a pardon.
She's getting a part, a temporary pardon, a
temporary protection order from the show.
Uh, she had Elizabeth Warren on and Elizabeth
Warren lays out that, you know, now the
Donald Trump, president Trump and Elon Musk out
there breaking all these laws, which I haven't,
I have yet to understand what laws they've
broken.
Do you have any examples?
They've broken the law of common sense.
Okay.
Um, so there's a strategy here because if
you don't, uh, obey the law as an
underling, as a minion in the swamp, you're
going to go to jail.
What do you make of this big, I
think constitutionally existential question existential question about whether
or not court rulings are going to be
treated as optional, um, by these guys that
they're brazenness.
So, so this is my point.
No one has ignored a court order.
As far as I know, the president keeps
saying, Oh, well, we'll have to go back
and go up to Supreme court.
Yeah.
They're always going to go back and, you
know, yeah, they're going to appeal everything that
happens.
Right.
But what, what Rachel Maddow is setting everybody
up to think that they are ignoring the
law.
And that's where Elizabeth Warren comes in.
Breaking the law, whether it's with the CFPB
or USAID or any of these other things
they're doing seems to be born of a
kind of confidence that can only, was there
any law broken with shutting down USAID or
CFPB?
I don't think so.
Do you know of any law that was
broken?
I think there's some procedural issues that they
could complain about.
You know, people were fired without cause.
It seems in some situations, they got eight
month payout.
Well, that seems like a good deal.
It's a good deal.
I'll take an eight month payout from this
show.
Born of a kind of confidence that can
only come from their expectation that the courts
don't mean much at the end of the
day.
And that illegality is not necessarily a reason
to avoid doing something that they really want
to do.
You're right.
You mean like student debt relief?
Is she talking about like student debt relief?
That the court just said, no, you can't
do this, but Biden did it anyway.
Is that what she's talking about?
That's whataboutism.
Whataboutism.
Stop your whataboutism.
That they really want to do.
You're right.
We've got our toes right on the edge.
Or how about having the federal housing authority
pick up the tab for like something crazy,
like a trillion dollars worth of mortgages that
are delinquent.
Have you heard about that?
I think I did.
Yeah.
Some guy with a video going around about
it.
I'm like, that's, that's pretty bad.
Right on the edge of a constitutional crisis.
But here's the thing.
It may be the case that Donald Trump
is so full of confidence that he thinks
he can wave his wand and whatever he
wants to happen will happen.
And in many cases, he will be right.
For example, the Republicans in the Senate, just
go ahead and confirm people for jobs that
they know they are not qualified for.
So they will kowtow to him.
But I don't think that's going to happen
with the courts.
And here's the next part.
They may not be able to force Donald
Trump to do something, but Donald Trump isn't
actually the guy who puts in the orders
and cuts people's paychecks.
There's somebody else in the system who does
that.
And they're a click down from Donald Trump
and a click down from that and a
click down from that.
And when a federal court issues an order
and then gets people in front of them
and says, you either follow that order or
find yourself in contempt.
Now we're going to see whether or not
those are people who are going to say,
oh, but Donald Trump told me and a
judge is going to say, I don't care
what Donald Trump told you.
I'm telling you what the law is.
You follow the law.
All hypothetical.
And if what she says is true, then
who cares?
Yeah.
Then what's the big deal, Rachel?
What's the big deal?
Yeah.
Then we're good to go.
Yeah.
It sounds like it to me.
I don't see what the problem is.
A lot of protests.
By the way, the Fredericksburg 50, they were
also protesting against Elon and Tesla.
And, oh yeah, you got to protest against
Tesla.
Although weren't there revenues up that I read
something that they actually had a pretty good
quarterly.
Well, they have a lot of international sales
is a big deal.
Yeah.
But the, the, the, the big problem is
the scientists, the scientists, you know, funding is
getting cut everywhere.
They're not, they're not getting to do all
their projects, which of course comes from the
transgender mice story.
That was quite interesting.
When I was a kid in the olden
days, there were places like bell labs, these
corporations that have their own damn research.
They didn't rely on government handouts to do
fake research.
Why, why did that, how did that change?
Don't these corporations and these high paid CEOs,
shouldn't they take some of that money and
put it into R and D?
No, that's all the universities.
The universities get all that money.
The universities provide the lab and then the
grants go to the scientists.
And they were out protesting hundreds were standing
up for science because if standing up for
science, because if the funding goes away, well,
all hell's going to break loose.
Scientists and researchers from institutions across the front
range, making time to leave their workplaces on
Friday and rallying for science funding at the
state Capitol.
Science is factual and it saves lives.
It's very cathartic to be out here screaming
at the top of our lungs.
It feeds researchers.
It feels cathartic to be out here screaming
at the top of our lungs.
that's cool.
Wasn't it, wasn't there like a, I think
a role thing or something used to be
a role, a therapy, a role thing, role
thing.
Yeah, it was a role thing.
You yell at the top of your lungs
and you felt good.
Well, no, I think role thing is also
they do.
Well, you scream at the top of your
lungs while they're putting their knuckles in your
back.
I think there was a two-parter on
that.
I think that was a massage parlor.
I've heard of it.
It's factual and it saves lives.
It's very cathartic to be out here screaming
at the top of our lungs.
These researchers from CU Anschutz say every day
feels like they're in limbo.
Last month, the federal judge temporarily blocked a
Trump administration policy that would significantly lower the
agency's funding for major research institutions, more specifically
limiting NIH research funding for overhead expenses that
make their work possible.
Those court ordered restrictions fall by the wayside.
We will be doomed within a matter of
weeks.
The cuts would eliminate a total of nearly
$90 million in NIH funding at CSU, CU
Anschutz and CU Boulder.
These scientists say the impacts to research in
Colorado would be huge.
So you're not getting the future training for
future scientists and researchers, but you're also not
going to be making the discoveries that allow
us to improve health and allow us to
identify those new targets and new biomarkers and
new drugs, new drugs.
We won't have new drugs that save lives.
Pharmaceutical companies are supposed to invest in research
and development for new drugs.
They do big pharma.
What does it got to do with you?
No, they do after, after you create the
drug, the new drugs, then pharma, you know,
pays you handsomely with a, you know, you
get a nice little residual and then they
pay you to promote it in your white
lab coat.
I am generalizing, of course.
Yeah.
And, and even, and man, this was, this
is on, on par with the, with the
Connecticut, which former NIH director Francis Collins probably
got this clip, probably as much responsible for
the COVID for prolonging.
Should probably be in jail.
Yeah.
Yeah, probably.
That guy's just no good.
And I remember during COVID, he was out
there with his guitar and then he and
his wife were singing puff the magic dragon
songs.
You remember that?
Oh yeah.
Wait, do we still have that?
Let me see.
Let me see if we still have that.
Yeah.
He likes to play the guitar, that guy,
but he only plays folk songs.
Yeah.
Cause he, yeah, because he's only five chords.
He needs to know.
And he just plays them and sings off
key.
That's what folk folk song is today.
Well, here he is at the standup for
science rally.
Noble dream.
You got that.
So it's just all the good people, but
the second line, part of this family and
the last line, we're joined together by this
noble dream.
Do that with me.
This is a song for all the good
people.
Come on.
Don't eat the brown acid.
We're part of this family.
This is a song for all the good
people.
We're joined together by this noble dream.
Well, this is a song for all of
those dreamers.
We're looking for answers to come our way.
Scientists, doctors, students, sharing the hopes for a
much brighter.
I got to stop that.
It's too much.
It's too much.
Well, that will stop.
That will show Trump.
Yeah.
I'll stop.
That'll show him bastard.
There is one thing that I found quite
interesting after, after this, the state of the
not state of the union speech that the
president did.
He, man, David wickers texting me.
He, he, so he discussed the research for
transgender mice.
Now, technically what the re the $8 million
for transgender mice, technically, it was to test
the response to mice being transitioned with either
testosterone or estrogen.
And different puberty blockers, et cetera.
But you could kind of say that's, you
know, testing transgender mice, but that then got
a big lie came out.
Oh no, they read that wrong.
Doge read it wrong.
It's, it's a trend trends.
What was it?
Transgenetic, whatever.
But the, so CNN was out there saying
this for about a week.
Oh, he lied.
It's not, they misread it.
They don't know the difference between transgender and
transgenetic.
Hmm.
But they had to go back and correct
that they fact checked it.
And CNN published that.
Oh, then, you know, I don't think they
said it on the air.
So we were wrong about that, but the
president wasn't right either because they wasn't really
transgender mice.
Like that's the thing, but they were testing
puberty blockers and other transgender transitioning drugs on
the mice.
So you can hear this now take place.
Axelrod was on the panel with Van Jones
and Scott Jennings and Scott Jennings even says
as Van Jones, because he wasn't read in
on it because he's still hanging out with
this a hundred million dollars from Bezos doing
whatever.
He has no time to follow everything.
Didn't get the briefing.
He's like, and the Jennings actually says, what
were we told to say then?
Because Scott Jennings knows the initial blush of,
of, of Musk with his chainsaw may have
had some resonance.
These, the fact that he's cutting down stuff
indiscriminately less.
So, well, it's not all indiscriminate.
I mean, we don't really need the transgender
mice, do we?
I mean, it is real.
I'm sorry, man.
It's real.
No, hold on a second.
Did we, did we have to, did we
have to say it was real or not?
No, no, it's real.
I mean, Musk was a real thing.
So listen, they weren't talking about trans.
Don't get in the mice.
No, no, listen, you don't want to talk
about it.
We don't talk about it, but it wasn't
transgender.
It was a different term that was misinterpreted
as transgender.
They were actually trying to do doing basic
medical experiment on mice to figure out don't
spoil a good troll.
Having a good troll.
Don't spoil it.
Here's the point.
They have found some things.
Yes.
And there you go.
So Van Jones, it's a different term, but
he didn't know the term.
Stop counting your money, Van.
Can you believe the basis?
You got a hundred million bucks out of
the blue.
You got to spend all your time money
managing after that.
It's so annoying to read the newspaper.
Even so annoying.
I have no more time to do anything
else.
I'm counting the money.
It's a problem.
Who gave this was, I think this was
clip custodian or his brother gave me this
clip.
The last time a president tried to undo
the department of education was Ronald Reagan.
And meet the press brought up an old
clip from his, from his Doge guy.
President Trump is considering an executive order, which
would abolish the department of education.
Though as a federal department, it cannot be
eliminated without congressional approval.
But Mr. Trump is not the first president
to push for its removal.
Ronald Reagan also tried to scrap the education
department, but he later backed down citing lack
of support in Congress.
Reagan's education secretary, William Bennett joined meet the
press to explain.
As I've said to conservatives in the past
six months, if we're elected, we ought to
govern and we ought to govern aggressively.
The president, you know, nine months ago said
he changed his mind about the department.
He said he didn't think we needed to
get rid of it anymore.
He said it wasn't bothering anybody anymore.
I would say now it's bothering the right
people.
You have said though, that sometimes Republicans seem
to think that you just don't need to
spend money on education.
What did you mean by that?
Well, we are as a nation going to
spend more money.
Americans like to spend more money on education.
And when we put forward our budget proposals
and admittedly, on some occasions we asked for
reductions, Congress just rejected them out of hand.
American people want to spend more, but what
we know is it's not the spending more.
It's what you spend it on.
And if we spend it on the right
things in those inner cities and those poor
schools, we'll get results.
If we spend it on the wrong things,
what the special interests want us to do,
we're not going to get anywhere.
Well, should be interesting to see what happens.
Does, does Al Green tell you what's going
to happen?
Nothing's going to happen.
Well, that's what you said about Doge and
things have happened.
More has happened.
I was skeptical.
I'm not going to deny it, but I'm
glad that things are happening, but still there's
a lot of pushback.
And I think they got to go back
to finding these stupid programs and then exposing
them, which is what Rand Paul's been doing
this for decades.
Yeah.
Yeah.
He, he votes up every year and he,
and he gets no credit.
I tried to get ahold of his office
to get some comment on this.
He's not going to talk to a podcaster.
He's not going to know.
He, you can't even get through to his
chief of staff.
It's, it's one of those operations that did
Mike Lee's got one of these two, these
guys, they're, they're basically cut themselves off from
the public.
They don't want, they're, they're disdainful of any
discussion or back and forth with the public
as opposed to other people.
I've run into these, these offices.
They'd be glad to help you, but these
guys won't help.
So instead of getting any kind of credit,
Rand Paul is getting nothing.
He's a, he's a dipshit the way I
see it.
Did you, did you call him?
He's been doing the same thing for all
these years.
Did you call like a Kentucky accent and
say you were constituent?
I couldn't.
Do you want to hear the story?
Yeah, of course.
Okay.
So they, everything you, if you call his
office, you always go, everything goes to the
voicemail.
If you're a member of the record, these,
by the way, you need to, this is
show material that you're just throwing away by
not recording it.
I agree.
So you can be, if you're media.
So I have the media line.
So I call the media line.
It says, okay, leave your message.
Uh, and tell us when you leave a
number, call back, tell you what the calls
about.
So yeah, I'm John C.
Dvorak and I'm click.
It's a wait, wait.
Hello.
Is this thing on?
It's that old coot again.
Hang up.
No, it's just a machine itself.
They won't take the call.
It's just like, it's, you can tell they
don't.
It's the thing.
Well, it doesn't give you enough time to
even put a phone number in.
Wow.
So that was it.
Yeah.
You gave up after that.
I give up quick.
You called them.
I supposed to do.
I banged my head against the wall to
give somebody some free publicity.
Forget it.
They get their own damn publicity.
Well, okay.
Do you have a phone patch?
Because you definitely need a phone patch.
You need to patch that thing in man,
just so you can get a zoom and
just connected so you can just record whenever
we're always missing the cool scam calls.
The all the, I guess I'm great ones.
Yeah, but not recorded.
You have nothing recorded.
This is, this is a problem.
Uh, there's no, I'm a slouch.
Yes.
Um, okay.
I'm going to violate my rule for the
second time just because it was so awesome
and it's a bit of a throwback to
the show back to 2015 as president Trump
signed the executive order to create the strategic
Bitcoin reserve.
Um, here is the misinformation from Rachel Maddow.
I should say I am by no means
a crypto expert.
I'm not going to give you a lecture
on blockchain or coins or any of that.
I just, Hey, I don't know.
And be, I don't care.
but I do think it's worth looking at
this thing a little bit.
So if you're going to start off by
telling everyone you don't know what you're talking
about, you know, how does that compelling TV
radio or whatever?
How's it compelling?
Hey, Adam, I don't know anything about this
topic, but I'm going to pontificate.
If both of us were making $25 million
a year, I'd be like, I don't care.
Pontificate away.
I'm good to go.
Whatever you want to say.
You got me.
Yeah.
I don't care.
Um, but I do think it's worth looking
at this crypto thing a little bit only
because it is a deeply, deeply old fashioned,
simple scam at this point, which points right
to the white house news from the white
house tonight really gives us no choice.
You have to look at it.
Hopefully the broad strokes of crypto trading are
not complicated.
It's, it's like when there was the beanie
baby craze in the late nineties, people started
buying these stuffed animals, right?
So she is now about 10 years after
us.
When we first saw Bitcoin, we all said
beanie babies, beanie babies years ago, at least.
Yeah.
That's what I'm saying.
Kind of inherently not worth much, but people
were speculating on them, right?
It was a beanie baby trading bubble other
than maybe some emotional value.
If you had one as a child, beanie
babies didn't have much inherent value.
And when I mentioned that the news tonight
leaves us not too much, not much choice,
but to, but to talk about this stuff
right now, this is what I mean.
The white house just posted this video tonight
of Donald Trump signing an executive order establishing
a digital Fort Knox, as someone says to
the president off camera, Trump apparently signing this
executive order, creating what they're describing as a
federal government cryptocurrency reserve.
Now imagine the beanie babies again for a
second.
Imagine Trump had just announced that the U
S government was going to just cannot get
cheap talks too much.
Hey, for $25 million, I'll talk up a
storm.
And imagine Trump had just announced that the
U S government was going to buy up
tons of beanie babies.
No, we're going to establish a federal government
reserve of billions of beanie babies.
What do you think would happen to the
value of beanie babies?
Right?
Oh, it turns out there's a huge guaranteed
buyer for these things.
They're buying billions of them.
Okay.
So the point here being that she's really
full of crap because there is no billions
of Bitcoin being bought by the federal government,
quite the opposite actually.
And, uh, the scam, if it was a
scam, worked out really great as Bitcoin has
dropped down to 83,000 let's back up.
Uh, no, it's, it's, it's back down.
It's up and down, up and down.
But it was, it was close to 108
,000.
It dropped down after, you know, it took
too long.
Cause of course everyone's in on the scam.
It took too long for the strategic Bitcoin
reserve.
And now Trump came out with a meme
coin.
Oh no.
And now it's down below 85,000.
And there's good reasons for that because a
lot of people were stupid and believed exactly
what Rachel Maddow said, that there will be
a strategic Bitcoin reserve and the government be
using your tax dollars to buy more Bitcoin
and nothing could be further from the truth.
And I think it's actually a great executive
order.
And here's his announcement of it during the
crypto crypto conference.
Yesterday I signed an executive order officially creating
our strategic Bitcoin reserve.
And this will be a virtual Fort Knox
for digital gold to be housed within the
United States treasury.
That's a big thing.
The federal government is already among the largest
holders of Bitcoin, as you know, uh, really
one of the largest holders in the world
with as many as 200,000 Bitcoin obtained
via civil law and various other forms of
law and including enforcement actions.
These existing holdings will form the foundation of
the new reserve.
The treasury and commerce departments will also explore
new pathways to accumulate additional Bitcoin holdings for
the reserve, provided it's done at no cost
to the taxpayers.
We don't want any cost to the taxpayers.
Now, this of course, was not the actual
big news from this round table, which I
will play in a moment.
But just briefly on the executive order, I
like the fact that it starts off with
the background saying Bitcoin is the original cryptocurrency.
The Bitcoin protocol permanently caps the total supply
of Bitcoin at 21 million coins and has
never been hacked.
As a result of its scarcity and security,
Bitcoin is often referred to as digital gold.
And then it says, because there's a fixed
supply of Bitcoin, there's a strategic advantage to
being among the first nations to create a
strategic Bitcoin reserve.
Then the executive order is very clear that
no Bitcoin will be purchased.
If any Bitcoin is acquired, it has to
be budget neutral.
Now, that doesn't mean that you can't say,
hey, I'm going to fine you, company, Apple,
whatever, Google, they fine people all the time,
pay it to us in Bitcoin or any
other way.
But that really was so anybody who was
gambling on that to be a big catalyst
was very short sighted and just got caught
up in hype.
The real news came from Scott Besant, our
openly gay Treasury secretary.
How come they don't mention that?
That's mentioned now and again.
Not really.
Well, they don't push it because it's a
Demi, because it's because it's a Republican and
gay can't have the gays thinking that they
could be Republicans.
We want to keep them on the Democrat
side.
So don't talk about if you're in the
media, you're talking about him being gay.
You're doing the wrong thing.
You're not helping.
You're not helping at all.
Exactly.
But here was the big news, as far
as I'm concerned.
Much of Treasury's responsibility in this order relates
to the tax code and determinations around risk
weightings.
And I'm here to assure you that we
are going to work with the control of
the currency, the IRS, and we're going to
rescind and amend all applicable previous guidance.
OK, so that was kind of hard to
hear in the second part.
I hear it.
Well, he was he's saying we're going to
change the tax code, which a lot of
people think means that there may not be
capital gains on selling your Bitcoin.
I'm skeptical of that.
But here, hopefully you can hear this next
part.
And we are going to put a lot
of thought into the stablecoin regime.
And as President Trump has directed, we are
going to keep the U.S., the dominant
reserve currency in the world.
And we will use stablecoins to do that.
A trillion dollar coin.
Exactly as I predicted.
Yeah, you've been I have to say you've
kind of even though you don't have it.
I'm going to hate to use this word
sussed.
Since you brought it up earlier out completely,
I think you're right.
Yeah, they're going to they're going to.
No, I do have it.
And by the way, talking about openly gay.
Tammy Bruce is now in the administration.
You know, she is the spokeshole for State
Department.
She's the state or defense.
No, I think state.
She's the new Psaki or she defend.
Maybe she is defense.
It's one of the but she's openly gay.
Yeah, it's crazy.
LGBTQ rights being violated again.
Not to be held back.
Fifi Lagarde came out president of the European
Central Bank and in as much announced the
digital euro coming this October.
On your second point, I tend to share
your views.
Nature doesn't like vacuum.
And we start.
She is a robot.
Started working on the digital euro way back.
Actually, when I started my term five and
a half years ago, and I'm not claiming,
you know, parental parentality on.
She's totally claiming parental rights to it.
The digital euro, because my colleague, Benoit Curie,
had already committed a speech on this matter
before I arrived.
But I certainly carried on with that project.
And subsequently, Fabio Panetta on the board and
then Polanyi, who has.
OK, we get it.
You did it.
You're the best.
Fabio have taken the lead together with a
very, very good team, which is focused on
accelerating the pace and hopefully campaigning enough with
all the stakeholders, meaning European Parliament, meaning European
Council, meaning European Commission, so that we can
eventually, you know, not put to bed, but
put to reality this digital euro.
The deadline for us is going to be
October of 25.
And we are getting ready for that deadline.
But we will not be able to move
unless the other parties, the stakeholders, as I
call them, Commission, Council and Parliament, actually complete
the legislative process, without which we will not
be able to move.
And I think it is critically important.
And it seems to the agnostic or the
sceptics, it seems to be more relevant and
more of an imperative now than ever before,
both on the wholesale and on the retail
level, both.
So I'm thinking, since this is a central
bank digital currency, that's how the EU is
going to finance their weapons industry.
Just make a whole bunch of these digital
things.
This is a house of cards.
Yes, of course it is.
The whole thing is, well, by the way,
you have so much digital, your savings is
going to be digital.
So I'm going to have $100,000 in
the bank, let's say I'm a rich person
living in France, and the next thing you
know, I've got $50,000.
What happened to the rest of it?
Well, you're helping Ukraine.
It's for the good of the country.
Do you want war or do you want
$50,000?
Wasn't it Cyprus that had all this digital
thing, and they just took everyone's money?
Okay, all the savings accounts and everybody that
lives here, half of your money is gone.
That was the Russians.
The Russians did that, didn't they?
I think the Russians closed it down.
I don't know who did it, but I
do remember it happening.
It was just like, well, what are you
going to do about it?
What happened to my money?
It's gone.
We took it.
I want it back.
And it's gone.
It's like that star at the South Park.
And it's gone.
It's like you don't get it back.
This is the way it is.
This is by law.
It's going to be interesting.
Rachel Maddow could have talked about the stable
coins as Beanie Babies.
I would have been in on that.
That would have been better than what she
did.
Well, she said herself that she doesn't know
what she's talking about.
So there you have it.
And with that, I'd like to thank you
for your courage.
And see you in the morning.
To you, the man who put the sea
in Krone.
Say hello to my friend on the other
end, the one, the only, Mr. John C.
DeMora.
Wow, in the morning to you, Mr. Alan
McCurry.
Also in the morning, all ships and sea
boots on the ground, feeding the air, subs
in the water.
And all the dames and knights out there.
In the morning to the trolls in the
troll room.
Let me count you for a second.
All right, 2,452.
I think that is a little below our
recent average.
Yeah, for a weekend.
Because it's because we expected a blurt.
A blurt, yes.
And we got nothing.
Well, I mean, no, we didn't.
Oh, the average chart is not loading.
Cotton gin.
Oh man, I hate it when that happens.
Yeah, we expected a blurt.
Didn't really.
I mean, and you know what?
Oh, here we go.
The average Sunday last show was 2,759.
The last 10 shows, 2,551.
So we're below the average.
We're below the average for the last 10
shows.
Well, of course, you'd be going offline for
a long time.
It could have hurt some of that.
Yeah, I'm sure.
And I'm sorry.
I'm sorry, man.
Is that Australian?
We'll put an asterisk.
That's the Australian gear I've got.
You know, it's like it's made in Australia.
Who knows?
Yeah, by Elmer Fudd.
You get what you pay for.
Anyway, those trolls are here to listen to
the show live.
And I think a lot of the trolls
actually enjoy when it goes wrong.
You know, I know Mimi hates it.
But everybody else seems to like it.
Oh, this is funny.
It's not working.
You're in denial of the lower numbers.
What do you mean?
The good numbers.
Not everybody must like it because the numbers
have fallen off from the average of 25
to 24.
No, that has to do with your newsletter.
It has nothing to do with me going
offline.
The trolls listen at trollroom.io. They also
can listen on a modern podcast app.
Today, I'm going to say that a good
one to try is Castamatic if you're using
an iPhone.
Castamatic is a very nice iPhone app.
You can find many of those modern apps
at podcastapps.com.
The good thing about these podcast apps is
they let you listen to the live show
in addition to...
And this is going to...
Eventually, Apple's going to do this.
And radio stations around the country are starting
to understand that you can do this because
there is no central app, really.
There's no central place to get your radio
stations.
And now, you know, like Noah Jenner's stream,
that's a radio station, basically.
So you can listen to the stream and
you get an alert when we go live.
And when Planet Rage with Darren and Larry
goes live, they send an alert too.
You can listen to that in your podcast
app.
And also, when you release the podcast episode,
you get notified within 90 seconds.
Boom, you're good to go.
No more waiting for an hour and a
half from, you know, for Spotify.
What is that for?
Are you bored of my talk?
Yeah.
No, it was to add some moment of
excitement.
Wow, you should do that more often.
I feel it's very exciting.
Very exciting.
Thank you.
Thank you for spicing it up.
Appreciate it.
This program, as you notice, was not interrupted
in the first three minutes.
And again, after 13 minutes to tell you
that it's Ford Truck Month.
Instead, we run it value for value, which
means you're laughing.
But there's a lot of Ford Truck Month
ads going out.
That's funny.
Not really.
I wonder if they gave, you know, Leo
is the one that was the original at
the...
He had the Ford Mustang, right?
The old...
Not, I think, no, he sold it once
they gave...
No, no.
But he was...
Wasn't he advertising the Mustang?
No, he was advertising Ford, but Ford tested
their marketing with the Twitch show.
He ended up buying the Mustang, by the
way.
They didn't give it to him.
I don't know how that works.
He did that wrong.
Yeah, I know.
He doesn't know how to do it.
He still buys phones that he uses.
I don't get that either.
I want to be a good journalist.
I want to be...
I don't want to get...
Hey, I'll take anything for free.
Yeah, I'll talk about it.
That's what you do.
That's what you do if you're a real
pro.
Yeah, exactly.
Anyway, so they tested with him, and I
think that they found that, you know, there's
moments when it's usable.
I don't know whether he got any Ford
truck promos, but...
I heard a Ford...
Go ahead.
I'm just saying, it sounds like a lot
of people did.
Oh, right.
He was pitching the Ford Sync.
Remember that horrible entertainment system?
The Sync.
Oh, yeah.
We're the future of in-car entertainment.
Okay.
Way to go, Ford.
Way to go.
No, I actually heard the Ford Truck Month
ad during the Midas Touch.
I'm like, those people aren't buying trucks.
It's very strange.
Midas Touch people?
Yeah.
If they bought a used Volkswagen, it'd be
a miracle.
So, we run our value for value, which
means whatever you get out of the show,
you just hand it back, whatever that is.
Time, talent, treasure.
You can do stuff.
Lots of stuff can be done for the
show.
Get more people into the troll room, for
instance.
Get more people listening.
Tell more people how great we are.
You know, I love how every single...
The new engagement farming is, you've got a
podcast, and of course, we knew from day
one, we don't want guests on this show.
It's the worst possible podcast strategy you can
come up with.
Because booking guests and getting them to sound
right and get them to show up on
time is a nightmare.
You do not want to do that.
So now, all these podcasts who have been
built upon the Joe Rogan model...
Boy, we have open conversations for hours with
people.
It's really entertaining.
So they go on X, and they post,
who should I invite on for my next
guest?
And they all do it.
They all wind up doing it.
They're hard up for guests.
Yes.
And then, so you see a whole row,
at Adam Curry, at The Real Dvorak, at
Adam Curry and at The Real Dvorak.
These guys, they're the best podcast in the
universe.
He invented podcasting.
You should have him on.
Not a single time ever have I gotten
a show booking out of that.
But I appreciate the effort.
It never works.
They have no desire to talk to me.
I don't know why.
But you're a jerk, maybe.
I'm not a jerk.
No, you're not, actually.
I'm going on.
You're a good guest.
I'm going on.
Here's the problem.
No, here, I'll tell you what it is.
Oh, okay.
Well, good.
How can I change this?
Well, it's because you know too much.
Well, I can't change that unless I get
on the special K.
You know too much.
And you're also a knee-jerk Republican.
But even though you're not, I know you're
not a Republican.
You seem like a Republican to them.
Well, but I'm talking like Patrick Bet-David.
Oh, they're not going to put you on.
Why not?
Because I know too much.
Yeah, I think it's because you know too
much.
And you'll call them out.
Those guys value attainment.
I mean, right there, it's a ridicule.
Bait for you.
You're right.
Value attainment.
You're so right.
I would start it off with, I hope
to bring more value attainment to your program
today than ever before.
Yeah, you know.
You could go on Glenn Beck again.
I think you fit there.
But see, Beck tried to hire me and
I said no.
And I think that that put me in
bad graces with him.
You know what I mean?
He wanted me, hey.
Well, then he's very pretentious.
He's got to be.
And he seems so.
That if you bring a guest on, you
like the guest.
You like this guy.
Well, he should be working for me.
He brought me back.
He had me on twice.
Oh, okay.
Did he try to hire you the first
or second time?
The second time.
And then he wouldn't bring you back after
that?
Well, he was like, you know, I'd really
like.
So he brought you in.
Okay, he brought you in as a pilot.
Yep.
So it's a pilot episode.
Pilot test.
Well, it is.
Adam's pretty good.
Let's bring him back on.
This time we'll throw the pitch at him.
See if he wants to work for us
and disappear off the face of the earth.
No offense.
No, no, not to be fair.
He wanted me to be his every Friday
guest on the show, on the radio show.
Every Friday?
Yeah.
How's that?
That's an interesting idea.
No, it's not.
I don't want to work for anybody.
I don't want.
No.
Well, you just take a quick drive to
Austin on Fridays.
You're not working the show here.
Why don't you take a quick drive to
Austin?
I'm not taking a short drive, no.
I'd have to fly in and just be
on me.
This is not an exit strategy.
No, I don't want.
Some icing on the cake.
No.
Some promotion for this show.
Ah, there it is.
There's the true John.
You don't care about me.
You don't care.
You just want to work me like a
slave, like a monkey boy.
Dance, monkey boy.
Dance.
You can do it.
Drive to Austin.
You nailed me.
Yeah.
No, I'm not going to do it.
Anyway, because I like Beck.
And I think it's fun to be on
his podcast.
And I've been on his radio show.
I like him a lot.
But just the phone's not ringing anymore from
Dallas.
I don't know what's going on.
I don't know.
Oh, he's in Dallas?
I thought he was in Austin.
No.
Oh, he's in Dallas.
You're right.
He's got that dynamite museum.
That's too far.
Yeah.
No, no.
But it could just be a phoner.
It could just be a phoner.
Oh, that stinks.
Anyway, we also enjoy when people just send
us money.
Because that really does help keep the show
going.
It has worked so far for 17 years
with its ups and downs.
And did you throw out a sad puppy?
Sad puppies in play.
Sad puppies in play.
Well, anyway, we always want to thank the
people who support us financially.
And what's a nice list today?
Sad puppy is in play.
Yeah.
We thank everybody.
It takes the content out of the newsletter.
I had two problems.
One, I have the Easter day wrong that
I heard from a couple of people.
What are you talking about?
What is Easter month?
One guy says.
And of course, Jay calls me immediately after
the newsletter goes out.
Because I looked it up.
I said, and this is the mistake.
First time I made it all year.
When is Easter 2024?
I asked Google.
Oh, instead of 2025.
And so, and what triggered that, what triggered
the Easter thing is that last Wednesday was
Ash Wednesday for all the Catholics.
Virtue signalers.
They had to put a big patch of
ashes on their forehead and show up on
TV.
That's not virtue signaling.
That's a part of their vibe, man.
It's a part of their.
Okay.
You can call it what you want.
But I'm looking at Janine Pereira, whatever her
last name is.
Piro.
Judge Janine.
Judge Janine Piro.
And she's got a smudge on her face.
It's the size of New York City.
It's a big mess.
And she's on talking away like there's nothing
different about it.
The whole thing is ridiculous.
It was a clip.
I didn't get it.
Of Byron Donald.
Byron Donald.
Yeah.
Byron Donald.
And he's grilling the mayors about their.
It was quite funny.
I heard this clip.
And then he had the mayor from, was
it Boston?
And she had.
The woman.
The Chinese woman.
Yeah.
And she had the big Ash Wednesday cross
on her forehead.
Yeah.
So I always thought Ash Wednesday, being a
former Catholic, was always near Easter.
It used to be.
No, it's 40 days.
It's the beginning of Lent, 40 days until
Easter.
Well, okay.
Okay, Mr. Big Shot.
How come you didn't notice in the newsletter
that you proofread that I was way off
on Easter?
Because I don't look at content.
There's no content in the newsletter.
I'm just looking at spelling mistakes.
And I saw it was a short newsletter.
I'm like, okay, I messed up.
I missed it.
Sorry.
I should have caught that.
You're right.
It's now.
So I had Easter wrong.
So I'm sorry.
I apologize for that.
It is now a collectible.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That newsletter is collectible.
Collectible.
It's a collectible.
Bonehead move on my part.
But it was a short content-less newsletter
because, except for the one, you know, the
hypocrite of the week.
I always have that.
Yeah.
Because it was a plea for more donations
because it was getting ridiculous.
And the numbers that came in that morning
were terrible.
Yeah, and you are able to gauge that
quite accurately after all these years.
You know that if the numbers are down,
that it's not going to get much better.
You have made a science out of that.
You should write a book about it, honestly.
You should.
It's coming out right after the Vinegar book.
And give it to the value attainment guys.
So we always thank everybody who supports us
with $50 or more.
We're very transparent in this.
We mention the people, unless they want to
be anonymous, and how much they donated.
And we have all kinds of, well, we
don't have any of the like Patreon levels.
You don't have to subscribe to get the
show.
We just give you the show.
We just love giving you the show.
People used to put the show on CDs
when CDs were still a thing.
Maybe vinyl.
Wouldn't be great to have the show on
vinyl.
That would be great to put a show
on vinyl.
So that would be a triple box set
each show.
Each show would be a box set of
three vinyl.
Yeah, because you can only get about half
our on the side.
Yeah, that would be cool.
Um, now there's many, as I said, there's
many ways that, uh, actually, I forgot the
artists.
I can't believe I forgot the artists.
I'm sorry, artists.
Um, in fact, one artist, we want to
thank the artist who brought us the artwork
as a part of the time and talent
portion of Value for Value.
Episode 1744, we titled that Eula for Ukraine
and Tanstafel, which I forget what the acronym
means again.
There are such things as free lunch.
Yes, there you go.
Uh, brought us the no agenda fried dodo
bucket, which we thought was very, there were
a number of good dodo.
First of all, for people who missed the
show, you missed a doozy because we found
out that dodo bird is quite delicious.
Notoriously so.
Notoriously delicious.
So, and you know, as we always say,
bad art only comes because we didn't give
anybody, you know, we didn't have a great
item in the show and your dodo three
clips.
And I was, I really thought, you know,
it started with the woolly mice thing.
It's like, oh, where's this going?
And there was a massive shaggy dog.
You paid it off with the, with the,
with the dodo, the delicious dodo.
And, uh, I don't know about you, but
they went extinct largely because people were eating
them.
Yeah, really?
Yeah.
Wow.
And they were easy to catch because they
were dumb.
And so that's where the word dodo comes
from because they're dumb.
It was called dodo birds.
And then the, the, the moniker, you're a
dodo came from the bird because they would
just stand around and say, oh, okay, what
are you going to do with me?
Why are you picking me up?
Okay.
Oh, you're killing me now.
Oh, now you're eating me.
What's going on here?
Uh, and they, they were just good, good
eating and easy to get.
And they were just dynamite.
So there was the, they had no chance,
but they could be bred.
I think a big giant dodo farm.
They didn't, the Dutch were, didn't have any
foresight whatsoever.
They just ate them all stupid Dutch.
I wish we could talk about the rest
of the art, but the art generator seems
to not be responding at the moment.
Oh, do you get any response from it?
I'm not getting any response.
No agenda.
Art generator.com is where you should be
able to upload your art.
Um, if, uh, oh no, no.
Oh, I got a cloud flare error.
Oh, that's no good.
Uh, if you, if you can't upload it,
then email it to John, John at Dvorak.
No, he did.
Adam mccurry.com.
John at Dvorak.org.
Email it to him.
Uh, if you, if we can't upload it,
people are making the art during the show.
Uh, oh boy, it's going to give Dreb
headaches.
Otherwise we're going to end up using a
piece by a Darren.
Open threat.
You don't want that to happen.
No agenda.
Art generator.com.
Thank you very much.
Tom Stoffel.
There's no such thing as a free lunch.
Now to the, uh, the donors $50 and
above in this segment, we'd like to thank
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and we kick it off with anonymous from
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sure is $500 plus the fees for PayPal.
We appreciate that.
And anonymous says, what is the threshold for
the ring thing?
How long have you been listening to the,
to the show?
Are you just going from show to show
and collecting goodies?
It's a thousand dollars.
You become a night of the knowage and
the round table.
That is not just a ring thing.
Although you do get a handsome signet ring,
which you can use to seal your important
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We supply the wax with that and a
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And it's also great for picking up chicks.
Thank you.
And respectfully says anonymous.
And we thank you very much.
Anonymous.
Yeah.
We also thank Brian Moss who came with
the exact same amount.
Five, 1538 Rancho Santa Margarita, California.
And he writes the no agenda show is
the antidote to the exaggerated polarization that, that
we are being fed through the M five
M and social media.
Yeah, that's exactly right.
And then he says, you're a blessing to
the world.
I wish more would listen.
I wish more would listen to, you know,
I wonder if that, I wonder if JC
picked up that Trump VP rumor from social
media.
Is that possible?
Do you think he's not like a social
media nut?
He seems like a blue sky kind of
guy.
Well, I don't know that.
Definitely not that.
Okay.
Andrew Glenn is in the UK.
Oh, there we are.
A UK listener who has the balls to
support us.
You could go to jail over this $500
and not $509.
I guess, uh, I guess they get a
discount.
I don't know what that is.
After over 13 years of douche baggery, since
my last donation, your hilarious mad lib section,
as in the lib Joes from show 1744,
which I hope you will occasionally reprise, gave
me the necessary shove.
Here's proof.
John people love that kind of show.
What are we doing?
Messing around doing this.
He needs to de-douching.
You've been de-douched.
So please find my donation of $500 plus
a bit extra for expenses.
Thank you for the position of Commodore.
And I intend to follow this up in
a week or so with a further donation,
which will take me to knighthood.
And with that will be a slightly longer
note.
In the meantime, I guess you're, you better
de-douche me.
You just did that.
And can I also have some yacht selling
karma?
Oh, it's one of those guys.
Your brother.
Andrew Glenn.
There you go, brother.
Thank you so much.
You've got karma.
We go to Indianapolis, Indiana to Sir Greg,
who also comes in with $500.
And he says, nice, short note says, thanks.
Thank thanks for all you to do for
us.
Karma for everybody.
Sir Greg of parts unknown.
You've got karma.
Catherine Knight is in Mesa, Arizona, executive producership
for her.
And she comes in with $400.
And 33 cents.
That cannot be an accident.
ITM, she says, this donation allows me to
become Dame CAC, roamer of the Hawes Hills.
At the round table, I'd like filet mignon,
medium rare, with borscht mineral water, which we.
Borscht, oh, that's it.
I'm sorry.
Sorry.
Well, we had it shipped in from Romania.
So I hope it's the right stuff.
Is borscht something different?
No, borscht is a sweet wine.
No, I think this is the Romanian mineral
water borscht.
Keep up the good work.
I rely on you for a sane view
of the world.
Ah, another soul saved or created.
Perfect.
Brandon Mango in Midland, Pennsylvania, $350.93. And
his note is the best so far.
He says, love the show.
And we love you, sir.
Dr. Sharkey, Jackson, Tennessee, $333.34. Dear Adam
and John, I apologize for my absence.
Life happened.
But I'm back.
De-douche me just to be safe.
You've been de-douched.
You guys haven't lost your touch.
Hearing you break down the BS brings some
sanity back to the world.
Looking back, I first donated to No Agenda
in February of 2013.
It's been the best value investment I've made.
Also known as value tainment.
I'd like some rev.
Resist we much, sir.
Dr. Sharkey.
We much.
We giddy.
We dab.
We giddy.
Oh no, first stop, Kansas.
All right, there you go.
You got a little extra from me.
Nero Consulting in New York City.
Nero Consulting, $333.33. No note.
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You've got double up, Karma.
Onward to Nathan Rottier.
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Eureka River, Alberta, Canada.
See, they don't hate us.
They still consume our products.
Tariff-free.
$333.33 executive producership for you.
I was going to wait until my usual
annual donation, but the newsletter was getting more
and more dire.
So here's an early one.
Hey, good job, John.
See, he didn't care.
He didn't care about your canard.
Jingles Hot Pockets and a C35 guy.
What in the world is this?
P.S. special thanks to Eli the Coffee
Guy.
Hot Pockets.
In the bathroom, taking a shave.
Oh, wait a minute.
And I heard us.
Hold on a second.
That's not the right one.
Oh, how did I get that one wrong?
That's the long version.
What was that?
Well, that's the guy, but I needed the
ISO, I guess.
Yeah, this is it.
Oh, I said, what in the world is
this?
There you go.
Now we have Ronald Pokrant, or Pokrant.
Parts unknown.
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So he'll get a double up karma.
You've got karma.
Commodore Brennan.
Perrysburg, Ohio.
$333.33. Our last executive producer for this
show.
We're very grateful for that.
I mean, grateful that we have so many.
And he says, the sad puppy in the
newsletter always pulls at the heart.
How could I resist a call to action
like that?
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much.
This donation also puts me over knighthood status.
Henceforth, I would like to be known as
Sir Commodore Brennan of the Black Swap.
Please add knufla soup.
Am I saying that right?
Knufla.
I have no idea.
Knufla.
Knufla.
Maybe it's just knufla soup to the round
table.
And he wants to hear some mac and
cheese.
And he says, thanks.
Commodore Brennan of the Glass City.
You slaves can get used to mac and
cheese.
Mac and cheese.
Mac and cheese.
Macaroni and cheese.
Cheddar melted together.
Hey, everybody.
Christy Zeitz in Hampton Bays, New York.
Will be our first associate executive producer.
$250 and another fabulous note.
She says, thanks.
We love notes like that.
Rachel Epperson is in Chicago, Illinois.
Row of Ducks, 222.22. And she says
that she emailed the note, but I did
not receive anything from Rachel.
Did you receive anything?
Well, now I should go look and do
a search on the email and find out.
I mean, Epperson, E-P-P.
Let's try it.
E-P-P-E-R-S-O-N,
I think.
No.
Okay.
Well, email us back, Rachel.
We're happy to give you a make good.
Yeah, I got nothing.
Eric Reinhart comes up.
San Antonio, Texas, 210.60. And he says,
newsletter donation indubitably.
Beautiful.
205 from Todd in Northern Virginia.
John, get ready with your noisemaker because he
says, in the morning, John and Adam, I
was enjoying another fine episode, fully engaged in
the deconstruction when suddenly chimes.
Oh, the chimes.
Cute chimes.
Chimes.
At first, I thought I was hearing things.
Was it the wind?
The sound of God?
No, it was John masterfully deploying his donation
-driving chime psyop.
And you got me.
The subliminal percussion worked.
My hand involuntarily reached for my wallet, and
now here I am sending in a donation
like some kind of activated NPC.
Well done, gentlemen.
In fact, you got me so good that
this donation pushes me over the top for
knighthood.
So please knight me as Sir Todd of
the Jingling Winds.
Please pass the mutton and meat and keep
those sweet, sweet chimes a coming.
In the morning.
That's good.
Last on our list, we got Linda Lupatkin.
There she is in Lakewood, Colorado.
What happened to Eli the coffee guy?
I guess he missed.
He missed the deadline.
He always comes in very late at night.
Well, anyway, I'll just give him a plug
for gigawattcoffeeroasters.com.
Because you had too many cups today again.
Linda Lupatkin, Lakewood, Colorado.
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Our formula is this.
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Hot pockets.
I want to add a couple of thank
yous for the people.
I got three Ohio State hoodies.
Oh, nice.
It works.
One of them from Dreb Scott, who sent
a terrific design.
One of his buddies did it out of
Detroit.
Really?
And then I got another one.
There's also a red one that came in.
I don't have the guy's name.
I want him to write me so I
can give him a thanks on the air.
But also, I got another hoodie, plus a
bunch of souvenirs, including a small icon, a
doll called Brutus, which I guess is the
guy's mascot, a horrible looking animal from the
Park Street Law Group, Jay Madison in particular,
or Jeff Madison.
And he sent in a hoodie plus some
other stuff.
I want to thank him and everybody who's
followed up, finally, from Ohio State, one of
the greatest universities in the world.
Okay.
All right.
Don't use bingit.io to hear previous remarks.
Well, previous remarks are null and void.
So very sad, very sad, sad news that
Mimi's theory was wrong.
Wrong, I tell you, about Gene Hackman.
Yes, yes, it was.
It was more grotesque, depending on which version
you've heard.
Tonight, New Mexico authorities with tragic revelations to
a week-long mystery, saying Gene Hackman died
of heart disease and complications from Alzheimer's, likely
a week after his wife, Betsy, died of
the rare deadly disease, Hantavirus.
The cause of death for Mr. Gene Hackman,
aged 95 years, is hypertensive and atherosclerotic cardiovascular
disease, with Alzheimer's disease as a significant contributory
factor.
The cause of death for Ms. Betsy Hackman,
aged 65 years, is Hantavirus pulmonary syndrome.
Hantavirus is transmitted to humans by mice.
There's been less than 900 cases since the
CDC started tracking it in 1993.
Hantavirus can be transmitted to people through rodent
urine droppings or saliva.
The couple, married for 30 years, were found
dead inside their Santa Fe home by a
neighborhood caretaker February 26th.
Hackman, found in the mudroom, appearing to have
suddenly fallen, Betsy in the bathroom with pills
scattered on the counter, her body further decomposed
than her husband's.
Based on the circumstances, it is reasonable to
conclude that Ms. Hackman passed away first, with
February 11th being the last time that she
was known to be alive.
Officials say pacemaker data indicates Hackman likely died
February 18th.
Does this mean Gene Hackman was likely home
with his deceased wife for a week before
he passed away himself?
Yes, I would assume that that is the
case.
This is a very, very bad day for
these people.
It was gruesome, this whole idea.
Hantavirus.
Hantavirus.
And they had a number there.
What was the number of the cases they
said, total?
900 or 600?
Yeah, it's not very big.
I actually have a...
It's bigger than the measles.
Hello!
Oh, we're going to get to that.
I have a Hantavirus clip from 99 that
explains the Hantavirus.
When CDC investigators compared the antibodies from the
outbreak victims to those in their vast file
of known diseases, they made a surprising discovery.
The only sample that was in any way
similar was one that was 40 years old.
It was a sample taken from a soldier
stationed in Korea in 1950.
During the Korean War, more than 3,000
troops developed high fevers and kidney failure.
About 400 died.
Doctors called it Hantavirus because it was traced
back to Korea's Hantan River.
That region was home to large numbers of
striped field mice.
Feces and urine from infected mice carried the
virus.
When it dried out, it became airborne and
was then inhaled by the soldiers.
From there, the virus attacked the kidneys.
Wow.
That's from the forensic files.
Does that sound right to you?
You being our resident.
Yeah, it's a terrible product.
So they didn't explain the dog.
Did the dog just starve to death?
Well, they did say that there were pills
scattered on the floor.
No, on the counter, not on the floor,
on the counter.
Well, I'm skeptical.
The dog needs to be explained.
Maybe he did starve to death, but he
could have eaten one.
That's what dogs would do.
Yeah, that's what I'm thinking.
Maybe he ate some of her and got
Hantavirus.
I don't know.
Well, the story continues to unfold.
I got a note from one of our
producers.
I was listening to the show.
Couldn't help but chuckle during your Oscar Awards
talk with John today.
And of course, we were talking about Gene
Hackman getting very, very little airtime for his
illustrious and lengthy career.
And our producer says, I work with a
tribute package team for award shows.
Huh?
I know, it's ludicrous, the people that we
have listening.
It is well known in our little circle
how much of a hard time the Oscars
seems to have with their in-memoriam package.
This is industry inside stuff you'll never hear
about.
Brunetti, listen up.
I don't work on that show specifically, so
I don't have any really good inside gossip
to share with you.
But it's very common for a final product
to be harmed by internal board member politics.
I've witnessed it many times in the past,
and can only imagine how egregious it is
at the Oscars.
Yeah, I can imagine.
Yeah, of course.
I wonder what kind of...
Was Hackman a Republican, or what was the
deal?
I don't know.
I don't know.
Supported Trump?
That could be.
Possibly, although I don't think he did.
I don't think we didn't hear much of
him.
Anyway, since you brought up measles, the big
pharma is on a trip with this measles
thing, man.
It's unbelievable what they're coming up with now.
This is CBS.
And today's health watch, the measles outbreak is
showing no signs of slowing down.
Get this.
Last year, there were a total of 285
cases.
At least 164 cases of the virus have
been detected so far this year.
Two unvaccinated people who were diagnosed have died,
a child in Texas and an adult in
New Mexico.
We know measles is a severe and potentially
deadly virus, right?
But a lesser known fact is how the
virus can damage the immune system, raising the
risk of other infections even after the person
has recovered.
It's called immune amnesia.
Have you ever heard of this bullcrap?
No.
Immune amnesia.
So first of all, potentially deadly virus.
Yeah, the flu...
Can't the virus is worse?
The flu is...
The numbers are higher.
The flu kills tens of thousands of people
a year, but okay, it's about vaccines, obviously.
Let's bring in Celine Gounder, a doctor.
How exactly does measles wipe out immunity to
other viruses people have already been exposed to?
That confuses me.
Well, we know of other viruses...
It's confusing because we've never heard of this
before ever.
No.
Confuses me.
Well, we know of other viruses that infect
the immune system.
HIV is probably the best known one.
Measles infects immune cells, and when it does
so, it damages immune cells, and it wipes
out partially your memory, your immune system's memory
to certain infections.
So it leaves you more susceptible to getting
some of those infections.
Now, we have an animation here to help
you understand how this works.
Okay.
They literally have a drawing of two jars
with colored balls in it.
Let's say you have two babies.
As they grow...
They're not babies.
They're jars with balls in it, Celine.
Their immune systems mature, and they both gain
immunity to different infections, which is represented here
by the different colored marbles.
Okay, marbles.
One baby gets vaccinated against measles at age
one, and then later at age four, that
baby gains immunity to measles through vaccination, which
is what you're seeing here with the red
marbles.
Okay, all right.
Which, there we go.
There we go.
The other baby doesn't get vaccinated and is
not immune to measles.
At age five, both kids will start school,
and the unvaccinated child gets measles.
So if that kid is lucky, it's a
mild case, and they don't need to be
hospitalized.
They develop immunity to measles from...
I need to stop right here.
How do you get a mild case of
the measles?
What does she mean by that?
The only thing I can think of is
that your immune system is strong, and therefore
the effects of the measles are not as
strong on you, or that, you know...
I don't understand a mild case.
It used to be something like that, because
I remember when my son JC had chicken
pox.
He had a mild...
I would have to say it's a mild
case, because there were like two pox.
Two pox?
He was a two pox Shakur.
He was a two pox.
It was like ludicrous.
Okay.
So strong immune system, those Dvorak's.
That kid is lucky.
It's a mild case, and they don't need
to be hospitalized.
They develop immunity to measles from the infection,
Wait, how many kids were ever hospitalized from
measles?
That's a really bad case.
A normal case, you wouldn't get hospitalized.
You don't have to be a mild case.
No, you can be sick.
This story's bullcrap.
Oh, but they're doing this for a reason.
They develop immunity to measles from the infection,
but immunity to other infections is weakened, and
that leaves them at higher risk for other
infections.
That's because the measles is damaging your immune
system and erasing that memory to other viruses.
Bull.
That was digestible.
Thank you for putting it like that.
Dennis Schott would do the same thing to
you, because that gives you a mild case,
doesn't it?
Ah, this is the question.
Can you fix that with boosters?
So if somebody's been infected with the measles,
is there anything they can do to regain
the immunity that they've lost?
No, it's just time.
Time for your immune system to build back
up and recover.
Build back better.
The best thing is not to get measles
in the first place, and the best way
to do that is to get vaccinated.
Because we were always told that once you
get it, it lasts your lifetime.
Once you get vaccinated, yes, you're covered for
your lifetime.
One dose gets you to about 95%.
Two doses to 97% coverage.
Well, then you're not covered for your lifetime.
And it was 93 in other reports, but
now it's 97.
So pretty much if you've gotten your measles
vaccination, you are set.
You are immune for your lifetime.
Should people try to get boosters just because
of this outbreak?
Well, there's a very specific age group where
you may want to consider getting a booster.
Oh, John, did you get a measles vaccine?
No, I had the measles.
Yeah, I had the measles too, but pay
attention.
So if you were born after 1957, but
vaccinated before 1963, you may not have immunity
from measles infection or vaccination.
Really?
Because that's an age group also where the
vaccines that we had available were not as
effective.
So if you're in that very specific age
group, again, born after 1957, vaccinated before 1963,
you may want to get a measles booster.
Just get a booster.
Whatever it is, get a booster.
It can't hurt.
What can it hurt?
Just get a booster.
Now, this immunity amnesia, which I really question
the validity of this, but this is a
CBS, it's big pharma pays their bills.
So we've got all this anti-vax stuff
out there.
So we might as well try it with
this one.
How long does that immunity last?
I mean, the amnesia.
I'd never heard of the phrase immune amnesia.
Because it's dumb.
Do the effects of that last?
Well, from studies, it can last months to
a couple of years.
So, you know, it really does set a
child back.
And back before kids were being vaccinated for
measles, it's estimated that half of the deaths
were actually from other infections they got later
because of that weakened immune system.
This is fear mongering on parents.
That makes me have to play these COVID
clips.
Wait, wait, I got to play the last
one because it's all about RFK Jr., obviously.
There's so much information out there, but it's
different when it comes from the White House.
Earlier this week in a Fox News interview,
HHS Secretary RFK Jr. supported some unconventional treatments
for measles, including vitamin A and cod liver.
Are these effective tools?
I mean, what does science tell us?
Oh, please, are you kidding me?
What does science have?
Science for cod liver oil.
Look at your face.
So there were three humans.
It's like you're struggling to hold your face
straight.
You can see your lip curled up a
little bit.
So you have cod liver oil, which has
vitamin A.
What is cod liver?
Cod liver oil.
Oil from the cod liver.
Cod from a fish's liver?
Yeah, yeah.
Oh, okay.
That's been around for centuries.
Okay.
But it is a good source of vitamin
A.
In very malnourished kids in developing countries, studies
showed that it helps reduce certain complications for
measles, in particular blindness.
But you don't see that in the US.
Less than 1% of kids have that
kind of thing.
So unfortunately, this is not very good advice.
It's not very good advice because it comes
from RFK Jr. It's not good advice.
Before you do your COVID clips, I have
two clips from McCullough about the measles specifically.
Good, yes, because he'll give us some rundown
on this, even though he sells pills.
Yeah, he does sell pills.
I was going to say cod liver oil,
because we don't get enough omega-3s.
It's loaded with that, too.
It's a product that's been around for centuries.
Yes, because cod liver oil.
In fact, all of the Nordic countries, they
gobble this stuff down.
When I was in Iceland, I remember going
to the grocery store.
I always go to grocery stores when I
travel.
And there was like an aisle, an aisle
of cod liver oil and cod oil and
fish oils.
There must have been a thousand examples of
it.
It was unbelievable, because you need this stuff
for sunlight.
You have lack of sun.
There's all kinds of reasons to have this
stuff.
It's good stuff.
It's good stuff.
All right, here's McCullough.
He's on the Dell Big Tree show.
Our media and public health officials, I think,
have to be far more responsible in this
type of reporting.
And just to level set, our CDC says
anybody born before 1957, now, it's assumed that
they've had measles.
It's just a broad assumption that that's the
case.
I was born in 1962.
I had a single measles vaccine at age
two.
And I had another one at age 20
when I entered medical school.
And that's because I didn't have immunity.
I didn't have antibodies against measles.
And now a paper from Bianchi and colleagues
from Italy has actually done that exact study
of medical students entering medical school.
And the answer is about 20% of
those who took the measles shot do not
have effective immunity, according to Bianchi and colleagues.
Now, the answer is if they've had measles
during childhood, about 6% may not have
adequate immunity.
So clearly natural immunity beats vaccine immunity.
And now our CDC is reporting as of
February 27th, 2025, we have 164 cases in
the United States of measles in Alaska, California,
Georgia, Kentucky, New Jersey, New Mexico, New York
City, Rhode Island, and Texas.
So it's not just the Mennonite community in
West Texas.
And you know what?
In last year, in 2024, we had 285
cases.
So, Del, measles is something that does occur
sporadically.
It is spread by respiratory aerosol spread.
And it's a morbilliform rash.
You know, we have other illnesses that have
very similar rashes for which there's no vaccine,
including hand, foot, and mouth disease caused by
a Coxsackie virus.
Oh, man, Coxsackie, that's a frightening one.
Christina had that as a kid.
Actually, I had Burke's clip, so we'll skip
her.
Here's the last of the McCullough.
And this is a very interesting little tidbit.
Prior to the MMR vaccine, prior to vaccinating
for measles, infants that are the only really,
truly susceptible group of children that are in
danger of measles.
You do not want your day-one-old,
one-month-old, two-month-old, five-month
-old infant to catch the measles.
At that age, it is dangerous, no doubt
about it.
But here's what's shocking.
The numbers, when we look back in the
1950s and 60s, had very few infants that
died.
The reason being that their mothers passed on
measles immunity to the baby at birth.
How did that happen?
Every mother that caught the measles as a
child kept that immunity through life.
And once they started having their own children,
that natural immunity passed on to the infant,
to the baby.
They were protected for at least six months,
oftentimes a year.
And if the mother breastfed that child, that
immunity could last up to a year and
a half long.
But certainly at six months to a year,
now that that immunity given by mom wears
off, now the child is at a place
where they're healthy enough to handle a measles
infection.
It was amazing.
Nature, or God, if you will, had done
an amazing job at protecting our babies.
But then we started vaccinating every person in
this country starting in 1963, 64, depending on
how you look at the data.
We've been vaccinating ever since.
Here's the problem.
No mother that's been vaccinated with the MMR
vaccine for measles passes anything on to their
infants.
Our infants now have zero protection whatsoever.
Well, thank you, Big Pharma.
That's great.
That's just great.
Wow, there's your ironic story of the day.
Yes, that's just great.
Yeah, it's meddlers.
You meddle, you pay the price.
That's right.
Yeah.
All right, we'll wrap it up with your
COVID stuff.
Okay, so Montana's got a law they're going
to pass to stop all mRNA vaxxes, period.
There's just no genetic anything.
Yeah, Montana, there's about, I think, four or
five other states trying to do this.
And so there's a doctor that comes out
and gives a pretty good rundown, just so
we remind everybody, I feel, I'm sorry about
anybody who's got the, I mean, if you
got the vaccine, you got the vaccine, you're
probably okay.
But it has issues.
And I wanted to play these clips of
the woman's testimony.
There's three short, well, the second clip's a
little longer, it should be.
And this is the woman coming on and
giving a nice little rundown on why they
should pass this law and take this vaccine
off the market.
It's ridiculous.
My name is Christine Drivdahl-Smith, D-R
-I-V-D-A-H-L hyphen S
-M-I-T-H.
I'm a family physician in Miles City.
I have no conflict of interest.
I am a volunteer board member of the
Montana Medical Freedom Alliance.
Gene-based vaccines or mRNA vaccines are the
most destructive and lethal medical products that have
ever been used in human history.
I'm asking you to support this bill banning
gene-based vaccines so that we can halt
continued harm, disability, and death of our citizens.
Gene-based vaccines include the COVID-19 shots,
and there is one other RSV shot that
was approved for this past year for older
adults.
There are ongoing trials for influenza and bird
flu, and there are dozens more in development.
The COVID shots were rolled out just over
four years ago under Emergency Use Authorization, or
EUA.
This has been renewed multiple times.
The last renewal was in December of 2024
and extended the EUA until 2029, which also
extends the liability protections.
Under EUA, the FDA may allow use of
unapproved medical products, including experimental products.
Further, the regulatory procedures do not apply to
the EUA products, which explains why the FDA
has not withdrawn these dangerous vaccines.
I'm glad you're ending the show on a
happy note.
This is great.
We're not ending the show.
Well, this is going to end the show.
I mean, we're three hours already.
It won't fit on the vinyl if we
don't hurry.
Yeah, but a lot of the three hours
is trying to get the machines.
No, no, no.
This is the actual recording, 257.
Yeah.
Sorry.
No, it's not your fault.
I love this.
I just, I feel that we're leaving people
with a downer.
You're going to make this approve these vaccines.
They never have.
No.
Bull crap.
They haven't.
Okay.
By the end of 2024, there was over
38,000 deaths reported to the VAERS system
with a known underreporting factor of 31 to
as much as 100.
There are over 3,400 peer-reviewed studies
in the medical literature describing injury from these
vaccines, including cardiac arrest, myocarditis, blood clots, immune
suppression, autoimmune disorders, cancers, neurological disorders, prion
-induced disease, pregnancy harms and miscarriage.
Every highly vaccinated country has had a significant
increase in all-cause mortality, a decrease in
life expectancy and a decrease in fertility.
These vaccines do not prevent disease or transmission.
In fact, the more shots one receives, the
more likely they are to get COVID.
Over a year ago, it was discovered that
the COVID shots are contaminated with DNA.
This has now been confirmed by multiple labs
around the world.
The amount exceeds the regulatory limits as much
as 400 times.
The presence of this genetic material increases the
risk of cancer in the recipient.
And this foreign genetic material has now been
found within dividing human cells in a petri
dish and in colon cancer biopsies.
These mRNA vaccines, like other gene therapy medical
products, can be shed to others via blood,
body fluids, excrement and airborne exosomes.
Studies have now confirmed that these products are
shedding to others and that those exposed via
shedding can experience adverse reactions.
As you can see, there are no benefits
and only the potential for harm.
And yet, 23% of Americans continue to
receive boosters.
The American College of OBGYN continues to recommend
COVID shots to pregnant patients.
And the CDC has added the COVID shots
to the pediatric vaccine schedule starting at six
months of age.
So tell me at the end of this
testimony, they all go, thank you very much
for coming.
We're just going to keep on using them.
I mean, this is very depressing.
I'm sorry, but here we go.
This will wrap it up.
There have been ever increasing calls for an
immediate ban by professional groups all across the
globe.
Five states attorneys general have filed a suit
against Pfizer for misrepresenting the effectiveness of the
COVID shots.
And just last week, citizens filed a petition
with the FDA to remove these.
What was that?
Time's up?
One minute.
Wow, someone didn't want to hear her.
With the FDA to remove these products because
the DNA contamination was not revealed to the
regulators.
The drug companies, the regulators, the federal government
have failed to act.
We all know that the hands of justice
move slowly.
Time is of the essence.
I've spent over half of my medical career
in emergency medicine.
And during a trauma code, the most important
thing is to stop the bleeding.
So I'm asking all of you to use
common sense and a Montana let's get this
done attitude.
We must ban gene-based vaccines in Montana.
So will this ever be admitted by RFK
Jr. considering President Trump is so proud of
Operation Warp Speed?
This is the question, the big question.
He even touted it during his not state
of the union by saying that he had...
Yeah, it's a problem.
This is a real big problem.
It would be dynamite if he just said,
you know, I was wrong.
How about that?
I was wrong.
He's never done that.
This is his flaw.
He can never admit to being wrong.
I have a couple of just ask Adam
clips which are a little lighter.
You might find it more amusing to end
the show with these.
Okay, hold on a second.
It doesn't say that, these are gut-filled.
Oh, but don't I need an ask Adam
jingle?
You would, yeah.
Ask Adam, yeah, I can do it.
You know what's happened is like, I have
a million clips called Ask Adam.
Here it is.
All right, I'm ready to answer the question.
Okay, so I'm going to play the first
clip actually the question for you comes after
the second clip.
So it's not going to be that hard.
Okay, this is Gutfeld playing a Rogan clip
of Bill Murray talking about Bob Woodward.
Now we've had talked about Bob Woodward's inability
to tell the truth.
Yeah, he's a spook.
Including, yes, well here we...
I wanted, so here's the clip that's the
setup and this is the Gutfeld-Woodward setup.
The video of the day comes from Joe
Rogan's podcast where comic legend Bill Murray discussed
Bob Woodward's 1984 book, Wired, about the late
John Belushi.
As far as Murray was concerned, the book
was so inaccurate he had to wonder if
Woodward's reporting on Watergate was also full of
crap, watch.
I read like five pages of Wired and
I went, oh my God, they framed Nixon.
All of a sudden I went, oh my
God, if this is what he writes about
my friend that I've known for half of
my adult life, which is completely inaccurate, talking
to like the people of the outer, outer
circle getting the story, what the hell could
they have done to Nixon?
Okay, I have nothing to answer yet.
The Russ Baker book discussed all this in
great detail.
So Gutfeld now goes around the table and
he's talking to everybody and then out of
the blue he pulls out a little piece
of choice tidbit and the ask Adam part
is, see if you can easily spot what
is kind of the missing piece of this.
M.K., do you know Woodward's background before
Watergate?
Do you know, do you want me to
tell?
He had no experience.
He was a naval officer and then all
of a sudden he gets a job at
the Washington Post and quickly breaks the biggest
story of the century.
I know, no, this is all up.
The red flag for me here too on
Woodward, and this has happened in various others
of his books as well, where people have
called him out and been like, well, that's
not true.
The piece that's missing?
Yeah, I'm surprised you didn't hear it right
off.
No, I didn't.
Gutfeld says that Woodward was a naval officer
and then leaves it at that without ever
mentioning that that's not the important part of
him being a naval officer.
He was a naval intelligence.
Oh, I see what you're saying.
Yeah, yeah.
It's Gutfeld.
Why does he leave that out?
That seems to be the key.
It wasn't that, oh, he's a naval officer
that he went to work for the Washington
Post.
Was he a journalist in the Navy?
What was he doing there?
He was a naval intelligence officer that went
to work for the paper.
He could have been a bosun.
He could have been a swabby.
A swabby, swab in the lobby.
A deck swabby.
By the way, Gutfeld is another one of
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I have on the show when everyone says
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I would be great.
I would kill on that show because they
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And we have one dame and one knight
to bring up.
We only have, I thought we had two
knights.
Am I mistaken?
I don't know.
Oh, I thought we had two knights.
We have the Todd.
We have, well, Catherine is the dame.
Catherine and Todd.
Todd, was there someone?
Okay, maybe I'm wrong.
We can always make good if we messed
it up.
I just have a feeling.
Well, anyway, I've got a blade.
Did you bring your blade?
Yeah, of course I did.
Here it is.
Oh, very nice.
Catherine Knight, step on up here on the
podium at the round table of the No
Agenda Knights and Dames.
And you as well, Todd, from Northern Virginia.
Both of you support the No Agenda Show
in the amount of $1,000 or more.
I'm therefore very proud to pronounce KD as
Catherine Knight, Dame Cat Roemer of the Hawes
Hill, and Sir Todd of the Jingling Winds.
For you, we've got hookers and blow, rainbows
and chardonnay, filet mignon, medium rare with borscht,
mineral water, knoop, snoop, yeah, snoop.
Also, lupiness, lupin and rosé, geyser and sake,
vodka, vanilla, bong hits and bourbon, sparkling cider,
escort, ginger ale and gerbils, breast milk and
pavlova.
And as always, here at the round table
for the Knights and Dames, we've got mutton
and mead.
Now you also, just like the Commodores, head
over to noagendarings.com, only you're going to
not just give us an address to send
this wonderful package to.
You're also going to give us your ring
size.
There's a ring sizing guide on the website.
With that, because it's a signet ring, comes
wax.
With that, you can seal your important correspondence
and also, as per usual, a certificate of
authenticity.
Thank you all so much for supporting us
here for episode 1745 and beyond.
Well, just about underway at Crow Peak Brewing
in Spearfish, South Dakota is the Black Hills
No Agenda Meetup.
Also, well, actually on Thursday, we have one
more meetup.
It's the Shrunken Amygdala Support Group 2.0.
That'll be at seven o'clock at March
1st brewing in Cincinnati, Ohio.
There are a lot more of these meetups
taking place in the month of March.
All the way through, how many we have
into April.
We've got into June even in Texas here.
So make sure you go to noagendameetups.com.
Check out the list.
You just put in your zip code, put
in your whatever you are.
Think area code.
Everything works somehow.
And you will find a list of meetups
near you.
If you can't find one, start one yourself
and put it on noagendameetups.com.
Sometimes you want to go hang out with
all the nights and days.
You want to be where you won't be
triggered or held lame.
You want to be where everybody feels the
same.
It's like a party.
Well, I don't have a snowball's chance in
hell here today because I already know you've
got a great ISO for the end of
show.
So I'll just play the one that I
brought just for yucks.
In a word, balls.
You're not even trying.
I'm not.
I'm not.
Because you're just killing me with these choices.
You've got some well that just never runs
dry.
What are we going to play first?
Well, here we go.
Let's start with this one.
All three of these are good.
Let's start with better.
That was better than a podcast.
Oh, God, this is so good.
Yes.
What's your next one?
Then we have podcast.
Everybody's got a podcast.
Everybody's got a podcast.
This is really done right.
What's the last one you have?
Wow.
That wow.
That show was hot today.
Oh, close second.
Everybody's got a podcast.
Wow.
That show was hot today.
I don't know, man.
What do you like best?
That's hard.
It's a hard one.
You know, I think all this is tough,
but I think if we go with the
with the mumbler, the guy, everyone's got a
podcast.
I think it fits.
And then we can I can move these
other two.
I won't have to go digging for more.
I won't have to do anything for the
next two weeks.
Everybody's got a podcast.
All right, everybody, we have a podcast, but
not everybody has John's tip of the day.
This is a product you'll find here and
there, it's an important product for people who
have wheat issues.
And Mimi has become one of these people.
Yes, we know.
And it's not just the gluten thing, but
the gluten free stuff is what you have
to look for.
At least that's a start.
So there I make, if I make pancakes,
I make them, I just take any flour
and I put some baking powder in it,
mix it up with some salt, a little
shake of salt and put an egg and
some buttermilk and mix it up.
And there's pancake.
It's a pancake.
Yes.
But it's got wheat, obviously.
So and I don't like pancake mixes, but
I have to say there's this one pancake
mix, gluten free from a company called P
.A.N, P.A.N. And they have
a gluten free pancake mix.
It's a mix of flours and starches.
And it tells you instructions how to make
it.
But I just use it, throw an egg
and buttermilk in it.
I don't care what they tell you to
do, just as though it was a flour
mix.
And you make a pancake from this stuff.
And I don't think anyone in the world
could tell that this had no wheat.
And it's the stuff I buy it for
Mimi because she can have a satisfying pancake
that you'd swear was real, the real deal
when it's not.
It's just a blend of crazy flours and
starches.
And it's P.A.N, gluten free pancake
mix.
P.A.N, gluten, you know?
Wow, so Tina won't eat any pancakes.
And she makes great pancakes.
So I'm going to see if we can
get some of that.
Maybe she'll eat it.
And P.A.N, they have it.
Mexican stores carry this brand.
It's online.
You can get it all over the place.
They have a bunch of different pancake mixes,
but this is the gluten free ones.
The one that surprises me how good it
is.
Everybody has a podcast, but not everybody can
tell you how to make the best gluten
free pancakes.
I'm sorry.
That alone is worth the price of admission.
And it is known as John's tip of
the day, tipoftheday.net, noagendafund.com.
♪ Great advice from you and me ♪
♪ Just a tip with JC Dee ♪
And sometimes Adam.
Created by Dana Brunetti.
Yes, thank you very much, Dana Brunetti.
Created by you.
You're the best.
You are the awesomest.
All right, everybody.
That's it for our deconstruction for today.
We hope you had an enjoyable time.
We certainly had a good time.
And maybe I'll be able to salvage the
backup recording.
Otherwise, hope you enjoyed that messed up audio
at the beginning.
It's fantastic.
Coming up next on the Noah Jenner stream.
Oh, Bandrew says, that's the microphone guy.
I won't even mention it.
Uh, episode, I don't know what episode.
Episode 412.
I'm not going to say anything.
Yeah, I already did.
He's the microphone guy who would test our
microphones and give us a glowing review.
End of show mixes.
Come to you from Sir Michael Anthony.
We've got sound guy Steve and secret agent
Paul.
And I'm coming to you from the heart
of the Texas Hill Country, where we have
50 people holding up Ukraine flags.
In the morning, everybody.
I'm Adam Curry.
And from Northern Silicon Valley, we haven't got
any protesters around here that I know of.
Maybe in San Francisco.
I'm John C.
Dvorak.
We return on Thursday with more media deconstruction,
just for you.
Until then, remember us at noagendadonations.com.
Adios, fo-fos.
A-hoo-wee-hoo-wee.
And such.
Eggs, eggs, eggs, the egg price is out
of control.
Eggs, eggs, eggs, the egg price is out
of control.
Eggs, eggs, eggs, eggs, eggs, eggs, eggs, eggs,
eggs.
The egg price is, the egg price is,
the egg price is out of control.
Tonight, Vladimir Putin.
Not a Putin.
Putin.
Russia.
Putin.
Russia.
Vladimir Putin.
Putin.
Vladimir Putin.
Ukraine.
Putin.
President Putin.
Vladimir Putin.
Vladimir Putin.
Ukraine.
Putin.
Ukraine.
Russia.
President Biden.
Putin.
Vladimir Putin.
Ukraine.
Vladimir Putin.
So let's give the Ukrainians Putin.
President Biden.
Vladimir Putin.
Russia.
Ukraine.
Putin, Putin.
What was Ukraine?
Who was Ukraine?
Where was Ukraine?
President Putin.
President Zelensky.
Joe Biden.
Vladimir Putin.
Vladimir Putin.
President Zelensky.
Vladimir Putin.
Russia.
Vladimir Putin.
Ukraine.
Vladimir Putin.
Bombing Ukraine.
Russian President Vladimir Putin.
Russia.
Ukraine.
Putin said.
Ukraine says.
When it comes to Ukraine.
Invading Ukraine.
What Putin wants, is for Ukrainians to defend
their democracy.
Ukraine, brutal invasion of Ukraine.
President Putin.
Vladimir Putin.
The Russian offensive against Ukraine continues.
Russia's atrocities.
President Zelensky of Ukraine.
Ukraine.
Ukraine.
I really hope that you and President Putin
get together and can solve your problem.
That would be a tremendous achievement.
And I know you're trying to do that.
Did you underestimate Vladimir Putin?
Putin's intention to press on with his brutal
assault on Ukraine.
I'm Russian.
Russian missiles continue to rain down on the
port city of Odessa.
More scenes of carnage in Ukraine.
Ukraine is a centrally located strategic country in
Europe.
Donald Trump repeatedly asked his Ukrainian counterpart, Vladimir
Zelensky, to investigate the former Vice President.
President Biden.
Russia's President Vladimir Putin.
Do we need to be prepared for the
continued destruction of Ukrainian citizens?
Putin is the great disruptor.
Putin's military is falling apart.
There's a price to pay for peace and
democracy.
Please, again, my request, don't trust Putin.
You're blue and you don't know where there's
fake news.
Why don't you get your Gitmo fix?
Putin on the rips.
Dressed up like a million dollar trooper.
Trying not to look like Anderson Cooper.
Super pooper.
Come, let's mix where John Podesta walks with
kids.
Oh, I mean pizzas in his mitts.
Putin on the rips.
The best podcast in the universe.
Adios.
Mofo.
Dvorak.org.
Slash.
N.
A.
Everybody's got a podcast.