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Wow, that's a desert deadpool.
Adam Curry, John C.
Devorah.
It's Sunday, March 23rd, 2025.
This is your award-winning Gilmore Nation Media
Assassination Episode 1749.
This is no agenda.
Combating contagion and...
Broadcasting live from the heart of the Texas
Hill Country, right here in FEMA Region Number
6.
In the morning, everybody.
I'm Adam Curry.
And from Northern Silicon Valley, where we're saying,
head for the hills, they're gonna deregulate ham
radio.
I'm John C.
Devorah.
It's Crackpot and Buzzkill.
In the morning.
You know, I saw that.
Was that the video?
Did you see the video of that guy
talking about it?
Yeah.
He was, you know...
I would have clipped it, but the guy's
so verbose.
Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
Well, not just that, but it's a ten
-minute video.
And at eight minutes, he says, What does
this all mean?
I don't know.
Exactly.
It was stupid.
Yeah.
Why are you killing us with this time
key?
It was the worst kind of clickbait ever.
Like, what the new FCC means for ham
radio?
I'm like, oh, man.
It's either really good or really bad.
And I am thinking, though, that it may
be bad, because Starlink is appealing to the
FCC for more licensed spectrum.
And that usually comes from the ham boys.
Yeah, they always steal it from the hams.
Well, you know, there's this band over here
nobody seems to be using.
Yeah, never mind that the hams finally did
a good job in western North Carolina.
They did a great job there.
It was good.
Yeah, somebody had to.
There was no communications whatsoever.
No.
And he got the Starlink.
He got no power.
What difference does it make?
The solar panels.
The solar panels to the rescue.
Well, speaking of such, I think in our
more than 17 years of history, we have
never gotten this one right.
We always forget, and we always remind ourselves
to do better next year.
Once again, we forgot.
The Pacific Park Ferris wheel over on the
Santa Monica Pier joined other landmarks across the
world today in going dark for one hour
to mark Earth Hour 2025.
This would join the Empire State Building in
New York, some landmarks in Paris, Greece, Rome,
China, Rio's Christ the Redeemer, and so many
others across the world.
The hour is being called the biggest hour
for planet.
And it's meant to unify and unite millions
of people around the world in celebrating our
planet.
We were not unified with millions of people
around the world once again.
I am so disappointed in us.
Even the local news doesn't cover this.
No, of course not.
I'm in California where you'd think this would
be covered.
It feels like the climate change thing is
kind of falling away.
I didn't want to make a comeback.
Well, Europe is now one of the three
legs of the three-legged stool.
Yeah.
What's the other two legs?
Well, that would require me to play Queen
Ursula.
I don't know if you want to start
with her right off the bat.
Well, let's take a chance.
Okay.
Well, the Starfleet Chamber over there.
Was it Starfleet Command?
What was the…
It's the one that's in Star Wars, whatever
that thing was, that giant…
The Death Star?
Yeah, that's what it is.
The EU represents the Death Star.
There you go.
You nailed it.
Yes, the Death Star had a meeting.
Then they all got together, and here is
Queen Ursula bringing us a report.
And this is what they have decided for
the 340 million people of Europe.
Now it's only two weeks after we last
met that you, Antonio, have got us here
again today.
I think it was a very productive meeting.
Is that all she does, by the way?
What does she do for a living?
She has productive meetings.
And she gets her hair done a lot?
Yeah.
I mean, as a hair guy, I know
what it takes to get that helmet of
hair of hers done every single morning.
She must have someone on staff to do
that.
Or two.
Come, Queen Ursula, let me give you a
blowout.
Competitiveness, and I presented our Competitiveness Compass.
Competitiveness Compass.
Clean industrial deal.
Ah, yeah, there it is.
Clean industrial deal.
And we discussed the three important cross-cutting
topics.
The first is energy.
The second is simplification, the famous omnibuses.
And the third is the savings and investment
union.
And I think it was a very interesting
debate, because it was clear when looking at
the energy prices.
What is this cross-cutting thing she's talking
about?
She said cross-cutting.
Yeah, that's in the last clip.
These aren't too long, actually.
No, she said it in this clip.
I know, but she's going to explain it
in the last clip.
She's going to explain cross-cutting?
Yes, yes.
Like, intersectional?
Totally.
And remember, she also threw out an omnibus.
So pay attention.
When looking at the energy prices, that the
main answer to reduce energy prices is...
Is?
...to go more into the low-carbon energies,
that is, nuclear and renewables.
I mean, Germany just...
Tell that to the Germans.
Germany just got rid of all of the
nuclear.
Bring it back, boys!
Because it is the fossil fuels that we
import that are the price driver.
The second point, the omnibus, indeed, strong support.
Not only to have one, but to have
a whole fleet of omnibuses.
What?
A whole fleet?
A fleet of...
Does she think an omnibus is actually a
physical bus?
Yeah.
Like something you drive and there's...
Hey, get in the omnibus.
Okay.
How many people can it hold?
The wheels on the omnibus go round and
round, round and round.
Oh, the omnibus.
Oh, now there's an end of show mix.
So, the omnibus is a big spending bill.
And it sounds like they're going to have
a whole fleet of them.
Good luck, EU peoples.
And then, of course, there's the...
This is the most interesting one, which I'm
still trying to figure it out.
I looked at their explanation.
They have an explainer of this.
But you tell me what this means.
And I'm just going to set it up
by saying, I think they're going to take
your money.
And I want to reflect very briefly on
the third element, the savings and investment union.
Savings and investment union.
Hmm.
Here is very interesting that we are in
Europe, world champion what savings is concerned.
Per year, 1.4 billion euros are being
saved.
Saved?
Mostly on bank accounts.
While in comparison, for example, the American household
save 800 million billion.
Yeah, so that's a trillion.
And it is not the European market that
benefits from being the world champion in savings.
But it is mostly other markets, specifically the
American market.
Why?
Well, here's the aphora.
Why?
Here's the aphora.
Here's the aphora.
Why?
Because there's nothing to invest in.
We've got all the cool companies in the
cool stock market.
We've got a Silicon Valley, AI, machine learning
and quantum.
But it is mostly other markets, specifically the
American market.
Why?
Because the European capital market is still fragmented,
is complicated and is slower.
And the savings and investment union has as
a goal that the citizens get more and
better return on their money.
Whoa, this is good.
The savings and investment union means that if
you invest in their stuff, you get better
returns.
But also that the startups, the businesses have
access to the much needed capital.
And the capital will go where the business
case is.
In other words, we have to make sure
that this fragmented market turns into one savings
and investment union with one set of rules
where you can everywhere have the same entry
point.
This makes it then interesting to allocate the
money here in the European Union.
And this was one of the main focus
in our discussion.
Now, how do you parse what she just
said, the savings investment union?
What can that possibly mean?
I think she means that they want to
create a giant mutual fund.
Yeah, based on war.
And they want everyone to put their money
into this thing.
And it's going to be divvied up amongst
all these companies that they're going to decide
upon.
And then they're going to cash, they're going
to produce profits, which will be returned to
the quote unquote investors.
The savers.
In some form that will be better than
normal interest rates.
Yes.
So take your money out of America and
invest it in Europe.
Because they're doing good things with your money.
Yeah.
Although there's no track record whatsoever.
So it should be a pig in a
poke is what we used to say.
So now she gets across all the slices
and the horizontals.
And it's part of what I just see
is central planning across all industries.
There's another point.
It's not only the cross-cutting topics that
we have been discussing.
But we also look now systematically to one
sector after the next.
We started with the clean industrial deal.
That is the energy intensive industry and the
clean tech industry.
Clean tech industry has never made any money
anywhere.
I mean, clean tech.
What is clean tech?
Batteries?
Windmills.
Windmills.
And the clean tech industry.
We have done the strategic dialogue with the
automotive industry with an action plan.
Action plan.
It's an action plan.
That's a Ron Blumism.
We have an action plan for you investors.
We're going to make you more money.
Action plan.
Action plan.
We've done the strategic dialogue with the steel
industry also with an action plan.
And now the next one is the chemical
industry that will follow.
Zyklon B for everybody.
The principle is here that we are very
clearly sticking to our goals.
For example, climate neutrality by 2050.
But that we accompany the sector on the
way towards the goals to see where we
can support, adapt, flexibilize, be better.
Flexibilize.
Did she say flexibilize?
She sure did.
See where we can support, adapt, flexibilize, be
better.
Flexibilize.
Oh, yeah, baby.
This is a huge transformation that the sectors
are undergoing.
And therefore, this is a journey that we're
doing together.
A journey.
How is that a huge transformation?
What's huge about it?
Because they're doing it together as a union.
They're completing the project.
By the way, on the last show, she
was saying in order to avoid war, you
have to prepare for war.
Yeah, you have to be loaded up with
war armaments.
Yeah, well, people emailed me, a lot of
people, and said, this is really, it resembles
the art of war from Sun Tzu.
And also like some Greek stuff.
Now, here, a fourth century Roman writer, Publius
Vegetus Renatus.
To prepare for war, to have peace, you
need to prepare for war.
Yeah, and they never had any battles, those
guys.
Sounds good to me.
Well, they're going to have the big meetup
in The Hague in June.
That's when our guy, Mark Ritter, will be
doing, he'll have a booth.
He'll have booth babes.
He'll have a kissing booth.
He'll be selling stuff on our behalf.
Now, this is, none of this is good.
None of it.
So, and then it seems like, I'm not
quite sure if it's a buckling or if
there's some backroom talks taking place.
But Queen Ursula also said she's going to
delay the retaliatory tariffs.
Also on the agenda was Europe's need to
boost competitiveness and innovation amid sluggish growth and
the specter of a trade war triggered by
US President Donald Trump's tariff announcements.
Hold on, they have tariffs on us, so
who started the war is questionable.
Earlier on, the EU said it was delaying
until mid-April retaliatory tariffs against sector-specific
targets in the US.
EU Commission President Ursula von der Leyen said
the decision was made to allow for more
negotiations with the White House.
We are, in principle, opposed to tariffs.
We think that tariffs are bad.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Why do you have tariffs if you're, in
principle, against tariffs?
With the White House.
We are, in principle, opposed to tariffs.
We think that tariffs are bad.
They are like taxes.
They are bad for consumers.
They are bad for business.
They're like taxes?
It's like taxes.
Hi, it's like taxes.
They are like taxes.
They are bad for consumers.
They are bad for business on both sides
of the Atlantic without any question.
We are in active discussion with the US
administration on this issue.
And I can confirm that we decided to
adjust the timing of the entry into force
of tariffs.
The impact of our response does not change.
Okay.
So, yeah, I don't understand what she's saying.
They're bad.
It's bad for everybody.
They're just like Texas.
But yet they have them.
I don't know.
It's all very baffling to me.
And the silence of the Europeans is just
deafening.
I don't think they care anymore.
I think the Europeans just, whatever.
Let it go.
Well, it could be the bad coverage.
I mean, there's nothing.
It's just word salad.
They'll just go, oh, yeah, we're going to
do this.
Something union.
Fiscal union.
We'll have an industrial deal.
Clean industrial deal.
Industry is never clean.
It's dirty.
It's just dirty.
So, there you go.
Aren't you glad you asked?
I always enjoy listening to her.
It's always better to watch her.
She is a level twerp, honestly.
Is she a small woman?
Do we know?
Yeah, yeah, she's very tiny.
She's petite, very petite.
Napoleon complex.
So, it seems that as the Democrat Party
in the United States is in total disarray
with numbers through the basement, everyone's just resorting
to Nazis and stuff like that with their
pals in the media.
And it's wearing on me, John.
I'm going to be honest.
It's getting tired.
It's getting tired.
It's like, how many years do we have
to go through this?
I mean, these people are delusional.
I'll start us off with Chuck Schumer, Senator
Chuck Schumer from New York, on The View.
Because that's where you go to talk to
your delusional Dems.
The Republican Party is a different kettle of
fish than it used to be.
And that's why we're fighting them so hard.
Kettle of fish?
Yes, it's a different kettle of fish.
Where does that come from, kettle of fish?
It's a different kettle of fish.
Yes, it's different.
I don't know why that even became a
phrase.
It's a different kettle of fish.
It's a different pot of stew.
It's a different cassoulet.
Yes, cassoulet.
It's a different bean salad.
I mean, there's a lot of things.
Who makes a kettle, by the way, of
fish?
Most people saute the fish.
It's a different kettle of fish than it
used to be.
And that's why we're fighting them so hard.
They are controlled by a small group of
wealthy, greedy people.
And you know what their attitude is?
I made my money all by myself.
How dare your government take my money from
me?
I don't want to pay taxes.
Or, I built my company with my bare
hands.
How dare your government tell me how I
should treat my customers, the land and water
that I own, or my employees?
They're playing them off.
Government's a barrier to people.
A barrier to stop them from doing things.
They want to destroy it.
We are not letting them do it.
And we're united.
Good, all right.
Yeah, we're united.
Woo, yeah.
Play that delusional clip.
I have to play this then.
Okay.
This is Rosie O'Donnell.
Oh, yes, yes.
I think everyone saw this.
She went on an Irish talk show.
And talk about delusional.
I'd like to know where do you get
this perspective?
You know, a lot of people did vote
for him.
Yes.
Do you accept their right to do that
and their opinion of him?
Well, I respect their right to do that.
But I question why the first time in
American history a president has won every swing
state and is also best friends and his
largest donor was a man who owns and
runs the Internet.
Is that Al Gore?
Oh, no, he just invented it.
So Elon owns the Internet.
Yeah, this is kind of out there, Madam
O'Donnell.
So I would hope that that would be
investigated and that we would see whether or
not it was an anomaly or something else
that happened on election night in America when
Kamala Harris was filling up stadiums with people
who supported her.
And Donald Trump was not able to do
that.
So it's curious to me.
And as an American and a believer in
democracy, I would hope that we would be
able to look at all of the reasons
why this happened in our country.
So for the first time in history, well,
for one thing, swing states vary from election
to election.
But Ronald Reagan won every swing state, if
there were any at the time.
I think he won every state except Minnesota.
Oh, no, I'm sorry, except Massachusetts.
And so he would have won every swing
state.
And I think this is very common to
win every swing state.
But what is wrong with her?
The guy who owns the Internet or runs
it, what did she say?
It doesn't make any sense at all.
I watched the whole interview, actually.
And no, she is renouncing her U.S.
citizenship.
She has applied for Irish citizenship.
You don't have to, you know, if you're
Irish, you don't have to renounce the U
.S. citizenship.
That's a symbolic gesture if she does it.
Because I know plenty of guys, our joke
writer, our official joke writer, Marty Higgins, has
got an Irish passport because he's Irish.
Is Marty even alive?
Where's his jokes?
Yeah, where's his jokes?
Where's his jokes, man?
Well, the way I understood it is she's
renouncing her citizenship, but yet she ends with
our country.
So I don't know exactly what she wants.
But I pulled one other clip from earlier
in the interview, which, you know, this is
the work we do on your No Agenda
show.
And this is, here's her answering why she
left.
And it may be even more puzzling than
what she just said in this clip.
You stuck out the last Trump presidency.
What's different about this one for you that
made you realize you're out?
Well, right away was the problem with Project
2025, which the Heritage Foundation put out.
And it detailed what they wanted to do.
And I read the whole thing.
And besides it being very tedious, clearly it
was about 80 pages run through chat GPT.
Everything was flowery.
But there wasn't anything really crazy in there
that I can recall.
And I felt that anyone who read that
would be not, would not be able to
sleep as an American.
I was able to sleep, John.
What type of stuff was in there?
I slept just fine.
I was like, oh, oh no.
I mean, the stuff that was in there
was, yeah, closing the Department of Education and
sending it back to the States.
I still slept okay.
Well, gutting all of the social programs as
she has been doing.
Just the other day, he disemboweled, disbanded the
Department of Education.
She wanted to say disemboweled.
Yes.
Is the Department of Education a social service?
I would say if it's anything, it has
to be a social service because it does
nothing else about, does nothing about education.
So what else could it be?
And I have a child who has autism
and that child will be.
Oh, Trump hates autistic kids.
He hates him.
He hates him so much.
He wants to figure out why there's so
many of them.
Denied services and many, many autistic children because
the funding for these programs for special needs
children comes from the federal government as well
as the states.
Never used to.
And it's going to be disastrous.
When I was a kid, I would stop
the clip.
So when I was a kid, I went
through my entire education, including a degree from
Berkeley, without the Department of Education existing, which
it only became in play in 1980, 1979,
1980.
So I went through the whole thing.
We had special education.
We had programs for people that had special
needs that was always going on and the
quality of the education was better back then.
In fact, when I went to the University
of California, which still gulls all my kids,
I didn't pay anything.
It was free.
I was a California resident.
I qualified to get in.
I had a high SAT score.
And I waltzed right in.
Now it costs like $70,000 a year.
What changed?
Do they have an endowment, Cal Berkeley?
They must have a huge endowment.
Sure they do.
All these big schools do.
Yeah.
I wonder how big it is.
It must be huge.
It's huge.
It's not as big as...
The big one is Harvard.
It's huge.
It's in the multi-billions.
Well, even though she says it comes from
the federal government as well as the states,
but that was her reason to leave the
country.
For these programs for special needs children comes
from the federal government as well as the
states and it's going to be disastrous for
children on the spectrum.
And that was terrifying.
But the biggest reason that it was different
than the first time he was in office
is because of the Supreme Court giving him
ultimate power, the powers of a king or
a monarch.
And that's not what the United States is
all about.
And it's a terrifying prospect.
And, in fact, what has happened since he's
taken office has been terrifying, I think, for
the world and definitely for the United States
of America.
For you.
Yeah.
Could everyone who's terrified please raise their hand
without talking?
You know, I don't understand.
I find it kind of sad.
Although it's great for this talk show.
I've never heard of this talk show.
I'm going to watch this talk show.
Yeah, the talk show is interesting.
So, if she leaves.
It's kind of baffling how somebody gets themselves
worked up into something.
You see it all the time.
Well, I mean, no, hold on.
Rosie O'Donnell is special because she's kind of
become President Trump's punching bag throughout the years.
Yeah, well, she asked for it.
Yeah, well, I mean, the thing is.
And he's not doing anything to her.
No, the thing is, comedians always like to
make someone else or something else their punchline.
But when they're a punchline themselves, oh, step
back.
I think that's what's going on here.
And I'm sad to see her so angry.
I knew her when she was Rosie over
there at what was the place in West
Orange in New Jersey?
Chuckles?
No, not Chuckles.
It was Yuck Yucks.
No, it wasn't Yuck Yucks.
It was a typical place.
Chuckles, Yuck Yucks.
It wasn't Yuck Yucks.
Punchline.
It was something else.
It wasn't any of those.
And, you know, she could have been the
Joe Rogan on the left, but she's so
sour.
When's the last time she told a joke?
Chuckles.
She used to be very funny.
Well, she made a fortune on her daytime
talk show.
Mm-hmm.
She was pre-Ellen, and the show was
an ass kicker.
Doesn't she have to pay taxes when you
leave the country?
Well, it depends.
I think you still have to pay.
Well, now if you renounce your citizenship, I
think you get away from having to pay
taxes.
But she had a huge hit.
The thing was a huge hit.
It was Ellen, pre-Ellen.
And she was, you know, funny at the
time.
And then something soured her.
Something happened.
Maybe the autistic child, which she didn't give
birth to.
Maybe the lesbian circle she's in.
Oh, well, hold on a second.
So basically she got a bad purchase.
She's mad she couldn't return.
I'm not absolutely certain.
I don't want to make that.
But as far as I know, she never
was pregnant.
Mm-hmm.
But she's in a circle of lesbian haters.
Yeah.
And she's just, it turned her sour.
It's very strange, especially for a comic.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
Chelsea.
Yes, adopted.
Adopted by Rosie and Kelly as a baby.
Anyway, it's too bad.
And she was funny.
She was funny back in the day.
Okay, let's just stick with the topic for
a second.
So this is the part that gets really
tiring.
Is when it's just this constant anger.
And everyone's angry.
And everyone's losing their minds.
Let me play some of that sound from
some of these town halls this week.
Town halls.
I support Elon Musk and the Department of
Homeland Security.
Next question.
Next question.
Where are Elon Musk?
Where are Elon Musk?
It's starting to start to me.
We're obsessed tomorrow with federal government.
But here's the thing.
Fire Elon.
Look, just in case you didn't pick this
up.
That was Nebraska and Wyoming.
You talked about 80-20 issues.
What they're doing with Doge is by far
one of the most unpopular things that Donald
Trump is doing.
No, I think it's popular for many people.
But I think what you're seeing is Democrats
organizing at congressional town halls.
I mean, all the polling says.
I don't doubt the polling.
All the polling says that voters do not
support drastic cuts.
They do not think Elon has the expertise
to do the cuts.
I don't doubt the polling.
Judges are reversing the cuts.
Hold on a second.
They don't even dispute that the government should
shrink.
They just don't like how it's being done.
My point is, you played a video of
a town hall as though it's evidence of
some broad anger that's out there.
And it's not.
This is what happens every time there's a
Republican majority in the House.
The Democrats organize.
In Wyoming?
They go to town halls.
They organize.
They get loud.
They get viral moments.
I'm sorry.
Our party is not that organized.
Our party is not that organized to organize
town halls right now.
I love Abby Phillips saying our party is
not organized.
Aren't you supposed to be a news model?
But then this guy, he, I think this
is.
That's a good catch now that you mention
it.
It's CNN.
Surprise.
But then this guy, Jamal Bauman, I think
he says something that could get him in
legal trouble.
That's not true.
And this shows again, the American people do
not trust Elon Musk.
And Elon Musk is incompetent in his position.
And how do we know?
Because they fired tens of thousands of people.
It was challenged in court.
The court said the people have to go
back.
And now the people are coming back.
He's incompetent.
He's a thief.
He's a Nazi.
And people don't trust him.
Period.
I think that's actionable.
Well, actually, Musk tweeted about this specific thing.
Oh, really?
Oh, really?
And he says he's taking him to court.
He should.
For slander.
Yeah.
You can call him a Nazi.
Well, no.
He said thief.
Thief.
Yeah.
Thief.
Thief is actionable.
You can't call somebody a crook.
You can't call him a thief.
Yeah.
Unless you make it very clear.
I mean, it's possible.
I think there's ways to do it.
But generally speaking, you can't.
Not like that.
And I tell people to just avoid those
sorts of comments.
Yes.
And we have been very...
You can call somebody an a-hole.
Yeah.
Because that's provable.
Well, just not...
No, it's one of those things where...
It's okay, Mr. President.
Prove to us that you're not an a
-hole.
I mean, nobody wants to go to court
to deal with that.
Shall we listen to a supercut of the
media before Elon bought Twitter and before Elon?
Yeah, this is a classic.
These are good.
I would argue that the new Jesus Christ
of our era are Steve Jobs and Elon
Musk.
And it's important to have heroes.
The 47-year-old engineer has been called
the real-life Tony Stark, better known as
Iron Man.
Elon Musk, a.k.a. real-life Iron
Man.
The guy is brilliant.
He is a genius.
And at least for now, the world is
better off having Elon Musk in it than
not.
Elon Musk is one of the most interesting
people in America.
He's in the world and, I guess, in
the universe.
Elon Musk is doing things that may revolutionize
transportation and climate change.
When somebody as staggeringly rich and staggeringly intelligent
as Elon Musk talks, people listen.
Has there ever been a car salesman like
Elon Musk?
Elon Musk is, I think, is beyond a
car salesman.
I mean, he's more like a hero for
a lot of folks.
Just today, we were given a glimpse of
something of a miracle at sea, or as
Elon Musk calls it, Tuesday.
Let's talk about SpaceX.
Well, Kate, the launch this morning was glorious.
Speaking of wonderful, out of this world, incredible
images from the first all-civilian orbit around
Earth.
A huge win for Elon Musk.
It's an amazing development that's going on.
You've got to give a lot of credit
to Elon Musk.
Elon Musk, he deserves a lot of credit.
Tesla founder Elon Musk says he knows the
biggest threat to humanity, and he has a
plan.
An immigrant to this country cemented his status
as a leader in science and technology whose
name may indeed belong alongside those of Edison
and Jobs.
Put another way, Elon Musk today showed the
world how it's done.
Edison and Jobs yesterday, Hitler and Mussolini today.
This is why the media is just not
trustworthy.
By the way, Rob, the constitutional lawyer, says
it's defamation per se.
I don't know why he says per se,
it's lawyer talk.
What he means is defamation.
Yeah, I know what he means.
Good, I'm glad you do.
It's defamation per se.
Yes, per se.
Per se.
Whatever per se means.
Although, this is an interesting moment because I'm
just going to have to say it again.
AOC, she has a shot.
She has a shot.
She's got the look.
She's got the energy.
She's got an old sidekick.
Now, she was in Denver, and the people
loved her.
With Senator Bernie Sanders and Congresswoman Alexandria Ocasio
-Cortez touring the country, Denver delivered a loud
message of support.
In the hundreds of rallies that I have
done, we have never, ever had a rally
as large as this.
An estimated 30,000 people filled Denver's Civic
Center Park Friday night.
This registered independent voter came from Durango.
You know, he speaks for all of us.
He speaks for inclusivity.
He speaks for human rights across the board.
Sanders and AOC railed against President Trump, Elon
Musk, and widespread cuts to federal programs and
employees.
This nation was built by working people.
And we're not going to let a handful
of billionaires run the government.
And our political system is ill-prepared for
this kind of abuse of power.
In fact, much of our political system enables
it.
But both also had pointed comments for Democrats.
There is today profound disgust at both political
parties.
And that means communities choosing and voting for
Democrats and elected officials who know how to
stand for the working class.
Doubling down on progressive goals like Medicare for
all and raising the federal minimum wage.
Rally goers we spoke with agree the Democratic
Party needs to change.
We need more Bernie and less Chuck.
We're not going to take it lying down.
We're going to stand up.
It's going to take a big effort on
everyone to quit criticizing each other.
And just coalesce on how is this movement
going to move forward in a way that
we make everyone feel welcome.
For Sanders and AOC supporters, Friday's turnout is
a sign that their message is a popular
one.
And they say the right one moving forward.
Yeah, well they got a big crowd.
Real big crowd.
This is the idea that the party should
not move toward the center but move more
left.
That's the reason they didn't do well is
because they weren't progressive.
They weren't communist enough.
The public wants a communist government.
Marxist ideas.
Because that's what they want.
Yes, well that's what they want.
This is a new group.
Well, it's not a new group.
It's the Ethical Union.
And you have these Ethical Unions everywhere in
the world.
Have you heard of this group?
The Ethical Union?
No.
So they were taking advantage of the situation.
And it's not just the United States.
But we have far right governments all over
Europe.
So everybody was protesting throughout Europe.
Listen to this clip.
More than 10,000 people gathered in Dam
Square in the Dutch capital Amsterdam to participate
in anti-racism and fascism protests.
Just a minor point, but The Hague is
the capital, not Amsterdam.
The demonstration comes against the backdrop of the
International Day for the Elimination of Racial Discrimination.
You can't make that kind of mistake and
then do a report.
Well, it's a mistake.
It's Euronews, so we let them slide.
It's Euronews.
Demonstration comes against the backdrop of the International
Day for the Elimination of Racial Discrimination.
Another day we missed.
We missed the International Day for Elimination of
Racism.
...annually on the 21st of March.
Protesters held signs reading, Never Again, as they
warned against the rise of the far right
across Europe, drawing memory to its disastrous history
in the 20th century.
Now, was Hitler a far right, John?
Just help me remember.
Technically, technically.
Based on the American educational system, Hitler was
far right, even though it was a National
Socialist Party.
Yes, yes.
But technically, based on the teachings that we
have received in our university system, he is
far right.
Demonstrators also waved Palestinian flags in solidarity with
the people of Gaza after Israel moved to
resume the fighting following the breakdown of a
fragile truce with Hamas.
Protests also took place in France across multiple
cities, including the capital Paris, as well as
Lyon and Toulouse.
The French Interior Ministry says some 91,000
people participated in the nationwide rallies.
Protesters voiced their rejection of far right parties
amid the rightward shift in French politics and
the government's recent pledge to crack down on
immigration.
Protesters also waved Palestinian flags and carried placards
accusing President Emmanuel Macron of complicity in what
they called an unfolding genocide.
So these placards, many professionally printed, the ethical
union.
And so I looked up, there's the American
Ethical Union, and you have ethical unions around
the world.
And it says we're a 501c3.
So I go to look up their form
990.
I was interested to see how much money
they have.
Can we find out where it's coming from?
Who's getting the big dough?
This organization is not required to file an
annual return with the IRS because it is
a church.
How about that?
Oh, that was an interesting workaround.
Yes, the American Ethical Union, Inc.
is a church.
It's like Church of Scientology.
What kind of a church is that?
They're like Church of Scientology.
I'll give credit, I'll say the church, I
can say the Church of Scientology, I can
give them.
It says the word church.
Yes, at least it has church in it.
This doesn't sound anything like a church.
Do they have services?
Is there a building where you can go
to the church?
They have outdoor services on the street with
placards.
Placards.
Sounds like a scam.
They need a cathedral.
At least the Scientologists have a cathedral.
What was that article you sent me about
Pam Bondi being...
I didn't send you an article.
I sent you a...
Substack.
What was it?
I thought it was a video.
Oh, no.
It was a YouTube.
No, no, no, no.
I don't think it was a YouTube.
Yeah, Pam Bondi is very closely associated with
the Church of Scientology in Florida.
Yeah.
But I'm not buying...
I'm not buying it.
You're not buying it.
I'm not buying the fact that she's...
This guy has...
No, it was a video because it was
a YouTube guy who's one of the guys
who quit the Church of Scientology.
Life's blood now is to bitch and moan
about the Church of Scientology.
Yeah.
I've had...
When I did a radio show, I had
the Church of Scientology people on every so
often when they needed to explain something that
was going on that had to do with
tech and the news.
Tom Cruise.
Whenever Tom Cruise was in the news...
Oh, if Tom Cruise wanted to come on
the show, no problem.
Yeah.
But I find...
You know, the people who quit the Church
of Scientology for one reason or another...
And I think this guy that's running the
Church currently is not necessarily a good guy.
I just can't get into it to be
just a Church of Scientology hater.
And I don't believe Pam Bondi's like a
stooge for the Church of Scientology.
She just takes advantage of the fact that
she will exploit their vote.
Yes.
And I think it's smart.
Church of Scientology is very interesting.
I still have my e-meter.
I have an e-meter.
You have an e-meter too?
In a suitcase?
It's in a suitcase.
It's huge.
Yeah.
I have it in a suitcase with the
two really big electrodes you hold onto.
Yeah.
I don't know who sent it.
One of our producers sent it to me.
One of our producers.
Yeah.
We both got one.
Yeah.
How many does this guy have?
I should probably just hook myself up to
it during the show.
It's a hell of a...
It's basically supposedly kind of a lie detector.
No.
Do they even use them anymore?
It's not a lie detector.
It's to see if you're clear.
It's basically a lie detector.
And they put you in...
I don't know if they even do this
anymore.
They used to be on the streets of
San Francisco.
There'd be a bunch of people with the
e-meters.
Hey, buddy.
You want to take...
Usually have a pretty girl.
It was a great bit.
They have like a dynamite pretty girl with
real nice eyes.
And then they hook you to the e
-meter.
And then she'd stare at you until you
fell in love with her.
And the next thing you know, you're a
member of the church.
Or you're signing up for Dianetics or something.
And it's just an astonishing process that they
seem to drop the ball on.
I have it here.
Right here.
I got the suitcase.
I knew I had it in my...
It says on the front...
It says Mark Super Quantum.
Quantum!
Who would have thought?
I'm going to open it up.
Let me see.
When you open it up, a bunch of
stuff falls out.
No, no, no.
How come I can't open it?
Because you're not a member.
Oh, here we go.
You're not clear.
Here we go.
It's open.
Here we go.
Yeah.
Do you have the instructions and everything?
I haven't looked at it for years.
You know what?
Oh, this is interesting.
It has a little white thing in there.
It looks like...
That's called the radio, and you're being broadcast
right now to the communists.
It looks like a modern hard drive that
you put in, you know, like flat.
And it says, Calibration Resistors.
Courtesy of Hubbard Electrometer Manufacturing.
5,000 ohms.
Oh, my God.
These guys are nuts.
It's a cool device, though.
Well, it was very effective at recruiting.
No, I think that was the girl with
the nice eyes that was effective at recruiting.
Yeah, well, that's for sure.
And so, yeah.
So Pam Bondi's got this, so they're trying
to smear her for that, and I'm not
buying it.
Let me see.
But it's good to know.
So then we have an interesting position taken
by the Trump administration to the attacks on
Teslas.
And this evening, there is news amid the
growing number of attacks on Tesla vehicles and
dealerships, arson and vandalism across the U.S.
There are multiple people under arrest tonight.
And Attorney General Pam Bondi now calling the
attacks domestic terrorism.
And what Elon Musk says the company is
now doing.
Here's our chief investigative correspondent, Aaron Katursky, tonight.
Tonight, Elon Musk says his company is stepping
up security after a wave of firebombings, shootings
and vandalism targeting Tesla.
As part of the enhanced security, Tesla is
activating sentry mode on every car in the
dealership.
That means security sensors and cameras are on
and recording.
Watch as sentry mode is activated on this
Tesla this week.
A man seen allegedly keying the car in
a parking lot in San Jose was arrested
and charged with felony vandalism.
Today, Attorney General Pam Bondi said those charged
with destroying Tesla property are part of a
wave of domestic terrorism.
Prosecutors said a suspect arrested for throwing Molotov
cocktails at a dealership in Salem, Oregon, was
also armed with a high-powered rifle.
Prosecutors said another suspect, who allegedly tried to
set fire to Teslas in Loveland, Colorado, was
found with materials to produce firebombs.
And Daniel Clark Pounder, accused of torching a
Tesla charging station in South Carolina and spray
-painting profane messages, allegedly found with a three
-page letter voicing objections to President Trump and
Elon Musk's federal layoffs, writing, we will not
stand idly by.
So I looked it up, the definition of
domestic terrorism, and it seems to fit as
it needs to involve acts dangerous to human
life, okay, I think that's true, that are
a violation of the criminal laws of the
United States or of any state and appear
to be intended to intimidate or coerce a
civilian population, influence the policy of government by
intimidation or coercion, or affect the conduct of
a government by mass destruction, assassination, or kidnapping,
and occurring primarily within the territorial jurisdiction of
the United States.
So I guess, yeah, I guess you can
define it that way, it's domestic terrorism.
Yeah, well, that adds to the charges.
Yeah.
It's so odd, though, why people do this.
It is odd.
It is.
And the number of people that have been
caught on camera, especially if somebody parks their
Tesla in a parking lot, they always have
the cameras on.
People don't realize there's like eight cameras on
a Tesla that are just recording everything going
on around the Tesla.
Yeah.
And it's sending it to headquarters, too, so
there's nothing you can do about, you know,
you can't erase the tapes.
And I think that's what happens.
So they catch a guy walking by and
he's going back and forth and he's keying,
you know, subtly, oh, so subtle, keying the
car.
Yeah.
And it's like, why?
Why are you keying somebody's Tesla?
It just makes, I don't get it.
What kind of nut are you?
These people should be taken off the street.
That's actually a very European type of protest
to do that kind of destruction, like destroying
people's property.
That's what they do in Europe.
That's not really an American thing.
You know, we go out and wave our
flags on their stoop and yell at them,
but we don't really destroy property.
But yeah, the Elon, it's amazing.
It's amazing the hate towards him.
And New York Times wrote this big article,
SpaceX Positioned to Secure Billions in New Federal
Contracts Under Trump.
And just listen to the opening paragraph.
Under Trump.
Yes.
Within the Trump administration's Defense Department, Elon Musk's
SpaceX rocketry is trumpeted as the nifty new
way the Pentagon could move military cargo rapidly
around the globe.
In the Commerce Department, SpaceX's Starlink satellite internet
service will now be fully eligible for the
federal government's $42 billion rural broadband push after
being largely shut out during the Biden era.
And it's like, do these people know that
SpaceX has always been a government company?
It always has been.
I mean, it's NASA people who work there.
I mean, they're not getting money from me.
No, well, Starlink, but that was always a
military project.
And as a minor aside, the FAA really
needs to do something.
We know from our air traffic controllers that
they have to sometimes resort to dial up
just to get weather data because their dedicated
lines go down.
I think the Starlink system would be a
big plus.
It's just all this hate.
It makes me tired.
I'm tired, man.
I'm tired of the hate.
Oh, you poor tired kid.
I know.
It's horrible.
I know.
I have some clips I can bring the
Christian out in.
Oh, OK.
Bring the Christian out on me.
All right.
You mean the Jesus lover?
All right.
Give it to me.
Well, I got to figure out what these
clips are.
Empathy.
Empathy bad.
And this brings Elon into the picture.
This is a good, good, good series of
clips.
People tend to think of empathy or caring
about other people's feelings as a good thing.
But in some conservative circles, there's a growing
chorus of voices arguing that empathy could be
bad.
The fundamental weakness of Western civilization is empathy.
That's billionaire Elon Musk speaking recently on the
podcast The Joe Rogan Experience.
They were discussing the idea that unchecked immigration
into Western countries is threatening Western political and
cultural values.
Musk agrees and warns that societies are at
risk of self-destructing.
There's so much empathy that you actually suicide
yourself.
Yeah.
So we've got civilizational suicidal empathy going on.
Musk, of course, is a close advisor to
President Trump and the leader of the administration's
Doge Initiative, which is making massive cuts to
the federal government, including humanitarian programs at home
and overseas.
Musk said empathy can be good, but it's
too often weaponized to persuade well-meaning people
to support bad ideas.
In recent months, several high-profile Christian conservatives
have been sounding similar warnings.
Oh, this is interesting.
Well, I'll withhold judgment until after clip number
two, but I may have to come in
soon.
Well, you're definitely a highlight of this series.
You're a Christian nationalist.
I'm a Jesus freak.
I've never said I'm a Christian nationalist.
It makes it better for these clips.
Okay.
For purposes of this demonstration, the part of
a Christian nationalist will be played by Adam
Curry.
Empathy almost needs to be struck from the
Christian vocabulary.
It does.
Empathy is dangerous.
Empathy is toxic.
Empathy will align you with hell.
I think empathy as hoisted up as the
highest virtue or even a virtue at all,
I think that really gets us into a
really big mess.
Most people have a hard time imagining how
empathy could ever be harmful.
And therefore, if I'm the devil, where am
I going to hide some of my most
destructive tactics?
That was Pastor Josh McPherson on his podcast,
Stronger Man Nation.
This is great.
Conservative commentator Allie Beth Stuckey on the Family
Talk podcast.
And author Joe Rigney discussing his book, The
Sin of Empathy, on a podcast hosted by
Al Mohler of the Southern Baptist Theological Seminary.
Oh, where's the Curry and the Keeper podcast
in this lineup?
New York Times columnist David French has noticed
this discourse and wrote about it in a
recent column called, Behold the Strange Spectacle of
Christians Against Empathy.
French says Jesus, the central figure in Christianity,
embodied empathy.
What was that in that pop?
That was me.
Oh, okay.
French says Jesus, the central figure in Christianity,
embodied empathy.
No.
By coming to earth as a man and
enduring the human experience.
French notes that Trump has cut programs long
supported by many evangelicals and conservative Catholics, including
funding for religious organizations that help the poor.
So how do you rationalize this change?
Okay, hold on.
They're conflating a couple of things here.
Working backwards, cutting for the poor.
These were huge NGOs that were just—I mean,
even the Catholic—no, the Lutherans even distanced themselves
from the Lutheran charity, saying, we don't really
have anything to do with that.
They just used our name after World War
II.
A lot of these groups used, like, the
Catholic Bishops' Conference, whatever that means, was just
an NGO to take money to resettle migrants,
illegal aliens.
Yeah, these were scams.
Scams.
But Christianity—as a Christian nationalist, for purposes of
this discussion, empathy has nothing to do with
Jesus.
Compassion, yes.
Empathy is a psychosis, where you take on
another person's feelings.
It has nothing to do with Christian nationalism.
Well spoken.
Oh, right.
And I think that that's why some of
these arguments about toxic empathy and other concepts
are falling upon willing and open ears, because
people are looking for a moral frame around
which they can fit the Trump movement.
And decrying empathy helps them do that.
Some conservatives also argue that women are especially
susceptible to being misled by appeals to empathy,
often when it comes to helping people who
are suffering or in need.
Here's Allie Beth Stuckey on Family Talk.
They'll use emotional, compassionate, kind-sounding language in
order to get a woman to think, well,
in order to be a good person, in
order to be kind, in order to even
love my neighbor, then I have to be
pro-open borders.
I have to be pro-LGBTQ.
I have to be pro-choice.
In an interview with NPR, Joe Rigney said
he believes women are more naturally empathetic, which
makes them better nurturers.
Rigney says they're also more likely to reject
church teachings they see as lacking compassion.
And in that kind of context, the empathetic
sex is ill-suited precisely because of the
ways that that empathy can be manipulated into,
say, refusing to draw lines, or in the
name of helping an oppressed group, we're going
to abandon our biblical confession or something like
that.
What is the purpose of this piece they
did?
Because I find it fascinating.
Empathy is literally the problem.
That is, the problem we have in America
is empathy.
Toxic empathy.
Well, I didn't hear Allie Beth Stuckey say
toxic.
Somebody said it in that report.
The PBS lady said it.
Well, the purpose is going to be revealed
with a clip after the series is over.
I think that was clip three?
Yes, this is clip four.
Yeah, we'll finish it, and then I'll play
the reveal clip.
Oh, okay, I'm excited.
David French, meanwhile, says the idea that women
are unique, uniquely vulnerable to manipulation ties in
closely with Christian nationalism, the idea that Christian
men should run the country.
And so you do have quite a bit
of literature in the far right, the Christian
nationalist right, that is decrying what they see
as the, quote, feminized church, feminized political discourse.
They say that America is a gynocracy is
what they will call it.
Hold on a second.
We were just talking about that in church
today.
Who ever said this?
I've never heard this.
I never heard the word in my life.
We've been doing this show for 17 plus
years, and I've never heard the term gynocracy.
Did you say gynocracy or dynocracy?
No, gy, like gynecology.
Oh, gyno.
Female-oriented democracy.
Oh.
Gynocracy.
No, I've never heard this.
G-Y-N.
No, I've never heard this.
Feminized political discourse.
Wait, hold on.
You've never heard it, and you're the Christian
nationalist.
You should have heard this over and over.
We should be talking about it in the
Connect Center.
Okay.
After church when we're drinking coffee.
This gynocracy is just no good.
They say that America is a gynocracy is
what they will call it.
And that empathy element is a part of
their argument.
Rigney says he wouldn't flinch from being described
as a Christian nationalist.
And I want society to be Christian.
So, yes, I think it's true.
I think it's good for the world.
And I think it's, quite frankly, good for
religious minorities.
I think that in many ways, in the
absence of that, tyranny is inevitable.
French says he worries that some Christians have
shifted from fighting for religious freedom to fighting
for Christian dominance.
But when it comes to calls for public
policies grounded in empathy, he acknowledges that everyone
has to draw a line somewhere.
There are times when the head has to
overrule the heart.
That is something that has to happen sometimes
in public policy.
But at the same time, there should be
no objection to appeals to the heart.
Because our compassion, our empathy is a fundamental
part of who we should be as human
beings.
French says there's nothing really new about accusing
one's political opponents of appealing to emotion rather
than logic.
But, he argues, there should be room in
our political discourse for both.
Oh, my goodness.
So, what this leads to.
Yes.
This is an anti-Trump thing.
Well, obviously.
It's PBS, NPR.
Gee, what was the giveaway there?
But the idea is that, you know, these
heartless Republicans are heartless.
And that's the problem.
And this carries over.
That was NPR.
So, let's carry it over to PBS.
That was PBS.
Now, we can go to NPR.
No, we're going to stay on PBS then.
Oh, okay.
That was...
Empathy Bad 4.
Yeah, I'm trying to decide whether that may
have actually been NPR, but whatever.
I didn't hear Scott talking.
It couldn't have been NPR.
No, it could have.
No.
So, but let's go to Brooks and Capehart.
Oh, okay.
And so, because they'll boil it down.
Now, we have a toss to Brooks.
You know, he's supposed to represent conservatives.
They're both Trump haters.
For the people out there that like PBS,
to give you perspective, they're going to have
two people on this called Brooks and Capehart
that both hate Trump's guts.
And so, that's the perspective.
This is giving you perspective according to somebody
in the back, one of the producers.
So, I don't understand how that works, but
okay.
Here, this is boiling down what you just
heard.
This is boiling down what's really going on
and why, what they're trying to drum home.
Here we go.
Seen so far about the role and the
influence of- Is this the Brooks and
see on Doge?
Just to make sure I have the right
one.
Yeah, yeah.
Absolutely right.
All right.
Seen so far about the role and the
influence of Musk in this presidency.
Yeah, I did not have Doge being the
center of the Trump administration before January 20th,
but it certainly has become the center.
And to me, it's revelatory.
You get the richest guy in the world
cutting off food for the starving children around
the world.
Oh, will somebody please think of the children?
That's the essence of what it is.
The essence of Doge.
That's the essence.
All that it's about is- Is starving
children.
Yeah, that sounds about right.
It's not about cutting government waste- No.
Or crazy programs that are costing millions and
millions of dollars to taxpayers money.
Doge is the department of gynecological efficiency.
This is why we have to starve children
around the world.
It's not about sending, it turns out, like
$600 million sent to Australian universities so they
can do their research because Australia can't pay
for it, I guess.
No, no.
It's none of that.
It's none of this crazy stuff.
It's about starving children.
Yes.
Starving them.
Starving them.
Die children.
Okay, so that, there you go.
Okay, that's really great insight.
That's the kind of thing that people actually
give PBS money for.
But let's see, here's the second half of
that.
The second thing it is, it's cruelty and
ruthlessness.
I've had so many conversations over the last
couple weeks with people inside federal agencies when
the Doge voice comes to town.
And they are naked in their cruelty that
this agency disagrees with Donald Trump.
People here, we don't like what you believe.
And we're just getting rid of you.
And so that cruelty is kind of naked.
And to me it symbolizes something that is
the epitome of this administration.
These Doge people, Elon Musk, he went to
Penn.
The Doge people went to Harvard.
They went to Stanford.
They worked at McKinsey.
These are not populists.
These are elitists.
These are conservative micro-elites who've been in
elite universities, who play in the elite circles,
and they want to take it out on
their fellow elites.
And that's what this administration will become about,
a battle between elites, not somebody representing the
working class for problems that are real.
And this is why people are angry.
Yeah, that was Capehart at the end, joining
in to agree.
Yeah, of course.
And that's why people are angry, because it's
a battle between the elites.
This kind of commentary, which is on PBS
NewsHour, is pathetic.
Well, allow me to give you some perspective.
From a white Christian nationalist, let's just call
it what it is, John, as you already
said, empathy does not enter the equation.
Following Jesus means you're filled with kindness, love,
mercy, humility, forgiveness, compassion, and, of course, faith.
And that is empathy is antithetical to Christianity
or whatever you want to call it.
In fact, many white Christian nationalists have a
problem with Elon in this regard, because he
calls himself a cultural Christian.
So that's like, nah.
He does?
Yes, oh yeah.
What does that even mean?
Well, that means that he's filled with everything,
but he doesn't really believe in Jesus and
the resurrection, I guess.
I will say two other things that are
being discussed in white Christian nationalist circles.
One is that, and this comes directly back
from the guys who were in the faith
office.
You saw that everyone was praying over President
Trump, which includes David Barton.
These are people that actually know.
And they all come back and say, you
know, Trump really did have a radical transition
when the bullet missed his ear.
So he's really a brand new Christian, President
Trump.
And then the second thing, which means that,
you know, you're a baby Christian.
You got a long way to go, but
it's a good start.
The second thing is people are concerned.
I find this to be quite interesting.
People are concerned about the faith office.
Did that ever exist before, an office of
faith, the faith office in an administration?
Was that totally new to Trump?
Do you know?
I have no idea.
People are worried about it because, well— Whose
people?
White Christian nationalists, the people I speak with,
people at church.
Well, you know, this is really great, but
what happens if we get a president who's
a Satanist?
He could then bring in the Church of
Satan into the office of— You mean like
Biden?
Exactly.
So I still don't understand exactly what the
point is of this.
Of what?
Of what they're doing here with NPR and
PBS, other than trying to say, you're not
being a Christian because you have no empathy.
But that's just—it's bullcrap.
No, I don't think that's what the message
is.
What is the message?
The message is Trump and Elon are cold
-blooded haters that are just trying to starve
children because it's what you want.
You want to see the kids die.
Oh, okay.
Rosie O'Donnell had the exact same commentary.
She thinks that they're out to get her
autistic kid.
Her autistic child, yeah.
Well, you're right.
Think of the children.
Yes, and it's always old people, children, and
pets, although pets seem to be doing better
in America.
I mean, that's what got Trump elected.
We all know that.
What got Trump elected?
The pets?
They're eating the dogs.
That got him elected.
That got him elected.
Yeah, there's an element of truth to that.
That got him elected.
It didn't hurt, that's for sure.
It didn't hurt at all.
They're eating the dog.
No, but this is why, as a white
Christian nationalist, I always say when you play
these TikTok clips of these insane people, I
always say, well, you know, I pray for
them.
They need prayers.
I'm not angry at them.
They're just under dark spiritual forces.
They're under a spell.
That's what it is.
Empathy.
Empathy, I think, creates spells.
And that's what...
Okay.
What?
You're veering.
I'm veering?
You're veering.
Stay the course is what you're saying?
I was okay before?
Shut up.
We'll be back on track.
All right, well.
How about the people who are just nuts?
All right, well, yeah, they're nuts.
So I have two clips here.
I don't know if you saw this.
This was a doctor in Missouri, and they
were working on a bill, a state bill,
to prohibit the transitioning of children.
And this is a lesbian doctor who is
pleading, pleading, pleading that they please, please, please
stop this practice because she learned how destructive
it was.
And when you listen to her, and it's
a little ghoulish, but it's important to hear
it, you can understand that this is exactly
what empathy leads to.
When you're so empathetic, oh, you must be
a girl.
Oh, you must be a boy.
The lengths that they have gone to with
children is absolutely outrageous.
Thank you, Representative, for the question.
Yes, I was once an absolute true believer.
I trained judges within the state of Missouri
around gender-affirming care.
I trained all of the other divisions within
the hospital setting.
By the way, gender-affirming care, as we
learned last week, is emotive conjunction.
I'm trying to keep an eye on these
things now.
I trained all of the other divisions within
the hospital setting around what is referred to
as gender-affirming care.
I believed wholeheartedly in this protocol.
My spouse is trans, who has now walked
back her transition.
She was trans for 13 years.
There were three aspects that made me come
to change my mind.
Number one, this protocol itself was built on
regressive stereotypes and is homophobic.
The first 70 children that were put through
this protocol, 68 of them were same-sex
attracted.
The entire DSM protocol is based on stereotypes
about what sex behavior looks like, and most
gays and lesbians in childhood do not fit
the mold of what regressive stereotypes look like
for sex behavior.
Of the 71st children that were put through
this protocol, one of them died.
Because the protocol itself destroyed what used to
be the way that we would invert an
adult's penis to make it a vagina.
The puberty blocker itself makes the penis not
grow to the point where that child was
put through a vaginoplasty that used their colon
instead.
And they died of a massive infection.
Mengele would be so proud of this.
You know, I like the thesis that this
is a homophobic movement.
That's the only thing that could catch on
and put a stop to it.
Exactly.
And we're seeing more and more certainly gay
men saying, no, no, no, you've got to
stop this.
A lot of lesbian women are also not
happy.
This is an example of one of them.
Except for Kara Swisher.
And so now we go into something that
is related to empathy.
I saw a patient population go from four
new intakes per month of children who are
mostly pre-pubital boys to 50 to 60
new patients per month, and 80% of
them were teenage girls.
Guess what teenage girls have in common?
They are absolutely susceptible to social contagion.
This occurred right when COVID lockdowns happened, right
when we stuck one of these in all
of those teenagers' phones, and right when we
saw all of these girls watching videos.
We actually referred to it in the clinic
as TikTok tics.
They literally were parroting and coming into our
clinic with the exact same storyline that they
learned online about what it meant to be
trans.
And then third and finally was that I
actually harmed patients.
This protocol itself physically harmed my patients to
the point where I was sending children to
the emergency room for emergency surgeries after they
had their first sexual experience and their vaginas
were ripping open.
We removed the breast of a young woman
who called us back begging to have them
put on.
She not only had detransition and was re
-identifying as a woman, she was also pregnant.
And she literally told us that part of
this identity for her was a social contagion.
There you go.
That's exactly what happened.
Spurred on by nut jobs.
And because of empathy and books about, oh,
my child is trans.
How do I tell the neighbors?
You know, nothing to do with the kid.
We read the book.
We read the book.
It was all about how do I deal
with my political party, how to deal with
my neighbors, how do I deal with school,
how to deal with the school board.
Nothing about the child, nothing.
Just, my kid's trans.
And, yes, that is...
Then you have people, then you have the
Hollywood elites.
It doesn't help.
Charlize Theron and Megan Fox with three boys
that have transitioned to girls.
It's amazing.
It's amazing.
How does that work?
And she's like, just doesn't seem like a
normal person.
Yeah.
Social contagion.
Yes.
Social contagion fueled by empathy.
And empathy is powerful.
It's very powerful.
And I think America certainly kind of fell
into that.
Europe has always been a little bit that
way.
We just kind of fell into it.
Why do you think Europe allows itself to
be destroyed by immigration that they don't really
want?
Empathy.
Ursula von der Leyen, these kinds of people,
they appeal to empathy day in and day
out.
Imagine if it was you.
Oh, can't you feel it?
Can't you feel what that would feel like?
The whole Internet is one big empathy machine.
At least the parts that Elon owns, according
to Rosie O'Donnell.
Well, I think we made a point.
Yes, we did.
I'm so proud of us.
Yay.
How about some bogus...
I've got a couple of clips here on
the bogus.
It says biggest, but it says one bogus
NIH grant.
This brings up an Ask Adam in the
middle of it.
The National Institutes of Health has terminated dozens
of grants for scientific research projects related to
vaccine use and hesitancy.
Researchers got written notices that their studies no
longer aligned with the administration's priorities and that
it is the policy of NIH not to
prioritize research activities that focus gaining scientific knowledge
on why individuals are hesitant to be vaccinated
and or explore ways to improve vaccine interest
and commitment.
Dr. Sophia Newcomer was one of the researchers
whose grant was canceled.
She's an associate professor at the University of
Montana.
Her work focuses on access to health care
in rural communities.
She spoke with Allie Rogan.
Wow, is that Joe's cousin?
I don't think so.
Oh, okay.
So they're going to go on about this
research.
You're going to realize that this is dumb
research, but there's going to be a missing
piece of information and maybe you can identify
it.
Thank you so much for joining us.
What was this NIH grant funding?
My work focuses on figuring out ways we
can improve vaccination services, particularly for rural families.
And so for this specific project that got
cut, we were working to develop tools to
measure the quality of immunization services that children
receive.
So you were looking at the quality of
immunization services.
This grant cut was about vaccine hesitancy.
Specifically, they said, how much of your research
was looking at specifically at that issue of
vaccine hesitancy?
Sure, sure, sure.
So my project involved analyzing existing data on
vaccinations across the U.S. And even though
we were only partway through our project, we
already had some important findings.
And one of the things we were finding
is that when children in the U.S.
fall behind or are missing vaccines, a main
issue are practical challenges to accessing high-quality
vaccination care.
So while we did see that some under
-vaccination in the U.S. might be due
to parental hesitancy, practical challenges to accessing vaccines,
such as having clinics nearby that you can
access, having a regular medical home for your
child, having regular medical insurance, are all also
challenges in accessing vaccines in the U.S.
Okay.
So how much money you think was wasted
on this idiotic study where you have to
have, where there's nothing there, it seems to
me, this is just a vapid research project
that doesn't tell you anything.
You can go to the drugstore and get
a free vaccine if you're just worried about
where you can get a vaccine.
So how much money do you think was
spent on this?
Ask Adam, ask Adam, will he know or
will he won't?
I don't know, but here we go.
Ask Adam, ask Adam, yeah.
Answer the question, go.
Okay, I will say $28 million.
Well, let's play clip two, or the next
clip.
We asked the Department of Health and Human
Services about these cuts, and they said in
a statement that the decision to vaccinate is
a personal one and funding would be better
directed towards more urgent public health priorities.
What is your response to that?
So it's sometimes said that vaccines don't save
lives, vaccinations save lives.
We have safe and effective vaccine products, but
we also need to make sure that we
have the medical and public health infrastructure to
ensure that high quality vaccination services are available
in all corners of this country.
And high quality vaccination care looks like this.
All families, no matter where they live, should
be able to access vaccinations in clinics in
their communities.
These clinics need to be equipped with the
right technology so that doctors and nurses can
look at a patient's entire vaccination and medical
history, so that they know when to recommend
the right vaccines at the right time.
We want every parent and every patient to
be able to have thoughtful conversations with their
care team about vaccines and to get their
questions answered.
And finally, we need to be able to
have the data to track and measure how
we're doing with providing high quality vaccination care.
Well, there's no answer in this.
What kind of Ask Adam is that?
They never answer that question.
The whole report goes on.
These assholes at PBS, heaven forbid, that you
tell the public what kind of money was
wasted.
That was kind of a borderline bogus Ask
Adam.
There's no payoff on this.
Well, it wasn't borderline.
It was a bogus Ask Adam, but it
was to make a point that this is
supposed to be reporting.
You don't leave out these elements.
You only leave it out if it was
ridiculous.
It had to be some ridiculous amount of,
because this woman was vapid.
She was an idiot.
And so they obviously gave her, who knows,
tens of millions of dollars to do nothing
more than look at vaccine data.
Who cares?
Well, speaking of injections, let's just call it
injections.
I mean, I had to go to a
very reliable source to find out the latest
on Ozempic and like-minded types of weight
loss programs.
I'm sure you've heard about the venom that's
in these things now.
Venom?
Oh yeah, venom.
Is it bee venom or snake venom?
Ah, good question.
The Gila monster venom.
Yes, it's the Gila monster, exactly.
Let's go to the TikTok doc, or as
I like to call him, the TikDoc.
Morning on Ozempic, Wigovi, ZepBound, Trulicity, Biota, you
name it.
All of them have a black box warning
that this Gila monster venom, and the venom
protein, for those interested, is called Exendin-4.
E-X-E-N-D-I-N-4.
Black box warning is, within 12 to 36
months, you will develop medullary thyroid cancers of
all kinds.
Oncologists around the world, after seeing my interviews
about this drug being made from venom, have
told me it's not thyroid cancers they're seeing
in all their Ozempic patients.
It's exploding breast cancer diagnoses in them.
You're going to see every form of cancer
from these drugs.
TA just added another warning that it causes
gastroparesis.
Do you know what that is?
Paralyzed stomach for years.
Meaning you will vomit every day for the
rest of your life.
And there is a CNN article from last
year that says hundreds of thousands now have
paralyzed stomachs that cannot be reversed for years
after stopping Ozempic.
Anybody with diabetes, this drug is promoted for
diabetes.
It is published.
It worsens and speeds up diabetic retinopathy.
Do you know what that is?
You will be blind faster.
TikTok Doc speaks.
I like the helo monster venom.
You know, that's not exactly Exendin-4, but
it sounds good.
It makes the Hodge twins go, I think
it's a peptide, Exendin-4.
But the side effects, I think those are,
I think the pharmaceutical, Big Pharma and the
M5M, they're doing people a big disservice by
not reporting on this a little more in
depth, a little more properly.
I would say they're doing people a disservice.
Yeah, because it seems like, well, let's think
of, hold on a second.
Let me bring out my crystal ball and
try to figure out why they're doing it.
Oh, that's maybe because that's all they do.
Oh, let me think.
There it comes.
It's coming in clear.
Pharmaceutical advertising owns the media.
When is RFK Jr. going to swipe his
pen and stop that?
Well, it's going to have to be Trump
that swipes the pen, but when does it
get recommended and when does it happen?
Yeah.
Here's my thinking.
I think they're going to use it as
leverage for a while before they do it.
So I think maybe a year or more
before they pull the plug on it.
Oh, they're going to threaten a little bit
and get some stuff out of them first?
Yeah.
That's what I'm guessing.
Because there's no other reason to do it.
What do you think will come first?
The banning, which of course there's going to
be a million judges because it's freedom of
speech and blah, blah, blah.
Will it be the banning of pharmaceutical advertisements
in advertising in general?
Or will we see the Epstein files?
Which one comes first?
Wow, that's a dead pool.
That's a good one.
Yeah.
Which will we see first?
Which will we see first?
My guess would be the advertising.
Yeah, yeah, you're probably right.
But I don't know if we'll see that
either.
It's a hard nut, man.
It has to be done.
Well, yes.
With that guy's clip, this has to be
done.
Because we can't let the pharmaceutical companies own
the media like this.
They own the media.
Yeah, they do.
It's not good for the public health.
No, clearly not.
And Kennedy promised.
That's one of the things he promised.
You have the three clips that you have,
which we should probably play again sometime.
We don't have to play them now.
One of the things that he promised was
releasing the data, stopping the advertising, and the
third one was going after the journals.
Yeah, for Ricoh.
For Ricoh.
All completely valid.
Yep.
Well, let's go to Canada for a second
before we dive in.
Can I get a clip in before we
do that?
Of course, of course.
Because it came up in the conversation.
I just want to check it off the
list.
Okay.
This is the astronauts getting paid overtime clip.
The two astronauts that you just helped save
from space, they didn't get any overtime pay
for all that extra time.
They got $5 a day per diem.
For 286 days, that is $1,430 in
extra pay.
Is there anything the administration can do to
get them, to make them whole?
Well, nobody's ever mentioned this to me.
If I have to, I'll pay it out
of my own pocket, okay?
I'll get it for them.
I'll take care of that.
I like that.
I'll pay it right out of my...
Is that all?
That's not a lot.
So what they had to go through.
And I want to thank Elon Musk, by
the way, because think if we don't have
him.
That's our president right there.
If I have to pay it, I'll cut
the check right now.
Well, okay.
That changes my Canada sequence.
To start with some grilling.
Some grilling of the temporary PM, Mark Carney.
Former...
Wasn't he the...
Epstein Island guy.
Yes, Epstein Island.
Adrenochrome junkie, allegedly, Mark Carney.
He also...
Was he the exchequer of the UK?
Bank of England.
Bank of England.
He was the exchequer, was he not?
I don't know if that was true.
I thought he was the head of the
Bank of England.
Oh, maybe the governor of the Bank of
England.
The governor, yes.
So he was grilled on some similar travel
-related items.
You have not been elected in a federal
election yet.
And you recently flew to Europe on government
wide-body jet at the expense of at
least half a million dollars.
So the question I have for you today,
and maybe I'll say this before I ask
the question, these people around you all paid
for that flight, and you've not been elected
yet.
So will you commit to refunding these taxpayers
for that flight?
Well, it's an interesting question, way of framing
it.
Look, Lenny, I'm going to go back to...
I'm going to allude to the question that
was asked previously by Mr. Staples from the
journal in the situation that we're in as
a country, which is we are in an
economic crisis that's brought on...
Sorry, I'm going to answer the question.
Brought on by the tariffs that have been
put on Canada, actual and prospective.
One of the challenges...
The economic crisis was brought on by former
Prime Minister Justin Trudeau, and you were his
advisor at the time.
I think you would find...
These people did not create that problem.
I certainly...
Hey, nobody in Canada created that problem.
Nobody in Canada created that problem.
The US government has decided to put tariffs
on all of its closest allies, and that's
what my job is.
I'll take that as a no, then.
No, you'll take that as a very comprehensive
answer to your question.
He's great.
But what about the jet?
I'll pay for it out of my own
pocket.
I have a feeling he can pay for
it out of his own pocket.
I think Carney's done okay.
So we start with a maple MAGA boots
on the ground.
Maple MAGA.
Boots on the ground, Canada.
Adam and John, we've gone full retard in
this country.
Pierre Polivere, the guy running against our newly
unelected WEF, World Economic Forum, PM Mark Carney,
has laid out a sound and solid plan
to negotiate and find a deal with Trump,
while the PM no one voted for wants
to fight and put our elbows up.
Every liberal politician is calling Trump names and
stating we will stand up to this bully.
Every woke Lib Joe in this nation is
full on in love with Mark Carney, as
is our media, because our media receives hundreds
of millions of dollars in stipends from the
liberal government.
Yes, true.
Yes, 600 million.
Thus they have a vested interest, which is
about 50 cents, American.
Thus they have a vested interest in keeping
the liberals in power.
So if you ask the average Joe, Pierre
Polivere is a maple maggot Trumpian Nazi.
Carney runs Brookfield, a huge asset management company,
which is said to have a lot of
holdings in foreign oil, but Carney won't say
what's in his trust.
Carney is a net zero dude, but he
just repealed the carbon tax, which was steadily
creeping up higher and higher.
It was a liberal tax to begin with,
and now the party is claiming victory in
eliminating it.
The stupidity truly hurts.
The plus side, if Canada becomes the 51st
state, I can at least move to Texas,
but we have 10 provinces and three territories,
so it would be 60 states and three
territories.
Save us.
So the most interesting- That was a
good note, I saw it.
The most interesting part of this is elbows
up.
Elbows up is, there's two terms, and unfortunately
you won't hear the second term in this
clip, but there's signs, people, you hear a
lady talking, she's holding a sign, and her
sign is, hands off our beavers.
So you can't knock them for the creativity.
Elbows up, hands off our beavers.
A new rallying cry is echoing through Canada.
This Torontonian crowd is adamant Canadians are getting
their elbows up.
Elbows up everybody, let's do it.
The phrase has caught the country by storm
since Canadian actor Mike Myers brought it back
during Saturday Night Live.
It is now seen by many as a
battle cry to push back against Donald Trump's
tariffs and threats of annexation.
Fighting for this country is worth it, I
would do it all over again, and I
think being here is the best I could
do at this point in my life to
stand up for Canada.
This is a good rally word to say,
we're not going to be treated shitty, and
it's kind of like to see other people
who feel the same way you do.
It's community building.
Elbows up, elbows up.
The elbows up saying originates from ice hockey,
associated with the legendary player Geordie Howe who
famously used his elbows to battle for the
puck, earning him the nickname Mr. Elbows in
the process.
Canadians are gearing up for a fight both
on ice and in the ballot boxes.
Canada's new Prime Minister Mark Carney is expected
to announce snap elections to be held on
the 28th of April.
Elbows, it's amazing.
They got elbows up from an American television
show.
Well, yeah, but it does stem from a
hockey player.
Yes, isn't that an illegal move?
Elbows up, is that...
I guess in hockey you can do whatever
you want, right?
When you're bashing everybody, you can do whatever
you want.
Height sticking, now that's...
Ah, yes, yeah.
We love you, Canada.
We love you as Canada.
We love you as a state.
It doesn't matter.
We don't want them as a state.
You don't.
I do.
I want at least Alberta.
Give us Alberta.
Well, Alberta would be great, but that's the
last place it's going to go because that's
the gold mine.
That's where all the money is.
And then President Trump pulls a fascinating stunt,
which I think is very good for our
economy, which is not really talked about, but
he's smart because he throws in, you know,
he calls the new fighter the F-47,
so everyone can obsess over that instead of,
wow, this was a company on the brink
of disaster, Boeing, and the president has thrown
them the lifeline of all lifelines.
A big win for Boeing as the aerospace
giant secures the contract for what will be
the next generation air dominance jet called the
F-47, announced by 47th President Donald Trump.
Thrilled to announce that.
The Air Force says it will be the
most advanced, lethal, and adaptable fighter ever developed,
designed to outpace, outmaneuver, and outmatch any adversary.
Boeing's been sort of like drifting.
Getting this contract means they have to be
a different company than what they've been.
Aviation consultant Michael Boyd believes President Trump is
well aware of the problems reported at Boeing,
from 737 production delays to the door plug
blowout on an Alaska commercial flight last year.
He says awarding the contract to the troubled
aerospace company will force it to make major
changes to safety and quality control.
Bringing more oversight from the Trump administration, they're
not going to put up with excuses.
Longtime Pentagon journalist turned defense consultant Marcus Weisgerber
explains there have been years-long test runs
of this upcoming 6th generation fighter jet.
He believes this contract will bring decades more
work to Boeing's fighter jet production site in
St. Louis, but that engineering or subcomponents could
be built elsewhere, meaning Renton's production facility is
not off the table.
Now the big question is, you have to
take this development program where they made a
number of, one, two, who knows how many,
prototypes and actually turn them into production-quality
aircraft.
That will be the big test for the
coming months and years ahead.
I think this is a good move for
America.
Keep them under wrap, keep them under your
thumb, keep control over them.
You can't be the same old Boeing.
Well, what states are we going to help
out?
I mean, I thought it was going to
be big, beautiful ships, but it seems to
be big, beautiful airplanes first.
I think it's great.
Well, a couple of things.
One, they haven't made, I think they haven't
made a jet for a while.
The F-18, I think, is theirs, but
the F-22, which is the super-
That's Lockheed, right?
The Raptor?
The F-22, I think, you have to
look it up.
I don't know if it's Lockheed or not.
But the F-22- No, the F
-35 is Lockheed.
The F-22, I think, is Grumman or
- It's a joint.
It's a co-lab.
It's Lockheed, Martin, and Boeing.
Oh, the F-22?
Yes, yes.
Well, I don't know what Boeing makes on
it.
Whatever the case is, it's too expensive.
The paint job, maybe?
It's a super- It's the jet of
jets.
We won't even export them.
They're so dynamite.
They're so good, the Raptor, yeah.
But they're expensive.
And this F-47 is supposed to be
better and cheaper, supposedly.
It won't be.
But I think this has a lot to
do with the fact that they can't get
the new presidential- the big, giant, president
jet finished, the new one.
It's still not done?
I thought it was done already.
No, they're delayed, and they can't get it
right, and all this and that.
I wouldn't fly that thing first out.
I'm like, yeah, let's open it up.
Let Vance fly that thing for a bit.
Lockheed Martin built most of the airframe and
weapon systems and final assembly.
Boeing provided the wings, the aft fuselage-
Yeah, Boeing wings are still good.
And the avionics and training systems.
I used to room with a guy who
was an aeronautical engineer when I was in
college, and he gave me a long lecture
about the wings, the various- the flapping
wings and the rigid wings and all the
rest of it.
Yeah, and everyone believes Boeing makes terrific wings.
I mean, when it comes to wings, Boeing's
your company.
And I wonder if South Carolina will get
some business out of this or some other
states.
It'll be a beauty contest for sure.
But good, that could be- The jet
will run over Billy.
I mean, this is a disaster.
Well, but President Trump, he took that, even
though he hasn't taken delivery yet, so I'm
sure he hasn't paid, or at least not
all tranches, but the new Air Force One,
both of them, went from $4 billion down
to- What did he get it down
to?
Well, he had some- He did some
sort of a screwball deal, which I think
is why the plane's delayed.
It was- So they can't overbill him.
Because, you know, Boeing and all these guys,
they like to- Hey, you know, the
price went up and you're halfway- instead
of being halfway pregnant, you have to now
pay more money.
No, I think it was- I think
he said, I don't like the number 4
billion, you got to get it under 4,
and they came at 3.
No, under 3, he said.
I want under 3, and they came at
2.9 billion.
We have a producer in the audience that
will give us the updated information because we're
just yakking.
Well, I kind of remember this.
I kind of remember this.
I can't find any- I knew we
had- I know we had a clip
on it at some point.
Trump- It was a big deal at
the time.
Yeah.
So let's talk about Murdoch Media.
Murdoch Media.
Okay.
I mean, who- Who's going to run
it when the old man croaks?
I think the old man's not running it
now.
They always- they credit him with running
it.
I just don't believe it.
It's like Soros.
Like, yeah, Soros is doing it.
Soros is- He's not doing anything, Soros.
He's one foot in the grave, that guy.
He's so old.
Yeah.
All right, Murdoch Media.
This- Is this Scott?
Is this- Is Scott on the-
Is Scott on the- I don't remember.
Well- Probably not.
Maybe.
President Trump can ordinarily count on the support
of more conservative news outlets.
But it's been tough to sugarcoat nose-diving
- Ah, there he is.
Suffering succotash.
I'm Scott.
Simon.
President Trump can ordinarily count on the support
of more conservative news outlets.
But it's been tough to sugarcoat nose-diving
- Man, it's just like the jingle, isn't
it?
It's been tough to sugarcoat.
Stocks and consumer confidence, trade wars, and a
looming recession.
NPR media correspondent David Folkenflik joins us now
to tell us more.
Good to have you, David.
Thanks.
Thanks.
Where are we starting to see some of
this pushback?
Well, let's set aside the never-Trump-er
right.
Let's start with the most important part of
the conservative press, and that's the Murdoch Media.
There are really four big parts of that.
There's the Wall Street Journal news section, the
editorial pages of the Wall Street Journal, the
New York Post, and of course, biggest of
all, Fox News.
All in various ways, some of it quite
gentle, some of it less so, are pushing
back on Trump on this, reflecting, in the
terms of the Wall Street Journal's, I think,
rigorously reported news pages, reflecting their own coverage,
but also, in the other elements, fulfilling their
brand promise to various constituencies they're trying to
take care of, and also reflecting what Rupert
Murdoch really wants, which is to kind of
gently ease Trump into what he thinks is
the right thing to do, creating predictable, stable
markets, and not trade wars.
How do we know this?
How do we know that's what Murdoch wants?
We don't know.
The guy's a mind reader.
This report is as bogus as anything I've
ever recorded.
Well, let's hear the rest.
So, what are they saying?
Well, you've seen these big headlines in the
Wall Street Journal reporting, you know, particularly on
fears about chief executives and finance chiefs, and
real concerns about how consumers are hurting up
and down the household income levels, and how
they're going to be affected Take the New
York Post's front page last week.
You saw this huge cartoon of Trump plunging
straight down the incline of a roller coaster
headline, buckle up, markets plunge.
You saw the Wall Street Journal's editorial page
talking about tariffs.
They called his moves on Canada and Mexico
the dumbest trade war in history a few
weeks ago, and sort of doubled up a
few days ago, repeating the line again.
And then there's a very gentle explainer by
Fox News anchor, Bret Baier, explaining why tariffs
don't really work the way the president claims
that they actually end up really working.
And even Fox host Maria Bartiromo, a true
Trump loyalist, here's what it sounded like when
she mixed it up recently with Trump's Commerce
Secretary, Howard Lutnick.
I know you said you're not expecting a
recession, but investors are on edge over the
possibility of a recession this year after the
Atlanta Federal Reserve said that it's predicting a
2.4% contraction in the first quarter.
And of course, President Trump would not Wait,
wait, wait.
Say that again.
A what?
A what?
The Atlanta Federal Reserve a 2.4%
contraction Correct.
And that's somebody who goes out of her
way to frame things in the best possible
way for Trump most of the time.
She just got an appointment from Trump to
the board of the John F.
Kennedy Center for Performing Arts.
Oh, oh, Maria can get me tickets.
This is good news.
You want tickets?
I've never been to the Kennedy Center.
Have you?
No.
I would go.
I would go to a performance.
Oh, I want to see nice ballet.
So the way they frame this in that
little clip they took with Lutnick going to
denying the...
Which is quite a retraction.
It's ridiculous.
It doesn't make any sense.
It's a one-off.
One Federal Reserve person said this.
Yeah.
And so they made a big fuss out
of it.
They're trying to they're trying to foment this
is the...
Oh, they want to because recessions are since
we threw out the definition of recession they're
just now just in your mind.
Yes, it's true.
So here we go with the list.
End of this thing.
And how have other pro-Trump outlets covered
this moment?
I think you look at the four D's.
Defend, deflect, deny, disregard.
Whoa.
You've seen that in a bunch of right
-wing pro-Trump outlets.
We saw the left-wing guy kill the
the insurance CEO using those terms.
Luigi.
It's Luigi talk.
Defend, deflect, deny, disregard.
You've seen that in a bunch of right
-wing pro-Trump outlets.
Take Newsmax's Rob Finnerty.
He recently debated Ontario Premier Doug Ford about
Canada's reaction to Trump's tariff moves.
How is that fair?
I think that Donald Trump just wants to
get the best deal for the American consumer
even if that means some pain in the
short term.
There are other right-wing and pro-Trump
sites that simply are focusing the blame on
former President Joe Biden for whatever's going wrong
now or might in the future.
Well, what do you think the impact of
this coverage will be?
Well, I think these things are both a
leading and a lagging indicator.
They tell you where these outlets think their
audiences are.
What?
And in the case of Fox...
What did you say?
A lagging leading?
No, a leading and a lagging.
How can something be a leading and a
lagging?
Well, it's Bollinger Bands, obviously.
It's a new...
It's a new technical analysis you can put
on the price of Bitcoin.
You have a lagging and a leading indicator.
Well, I think these things are both a
leading and a lagging indicator.
They tell you where these outlets think their
audiences are.
And in the case of Fox, where they
hope to get the president to because they
know few people are watching Fox and the
media more closely than he does.
Okay, yeah.
That's what he's doing all day.
You know, Fox acquired a podcast company.
This is a couple months back.
Actually, it was February, I think.
What did he acquire?
Red Seed Ventures.
Well, it's not really a podcasting company, but
it's a...
They do technology, marketing and support.
And I think they also do sales for
Megyn Kelly, Tucker Carlson, Bill O'Reilly.
I don't know who else.
So it's...
That's enough.
Yeah, you don't need much more than that.
Well, going on this recession thing, it's interesting
that you brought that up with the Murdoch
stuff.
I have Good Morning America, who we're talking
about a recession, and they start with a
definition.
A recession is part of the normal economic
cycle, right?
It usually occurs every six to seven years.
And in a recession, the economy just stops
growing.
It actually starts shrinking for several months.
At the same time, unemployment rises.
And there's actually a panel of experts at
the National Bureau of Economic Research who make
this call.
It's based on a number of factors, including
hiring and consumer spending.
Now, today, we've got uncertainty over tariffs, government
layoffs, falling consumer confidence.
All of that has some economists now raising
the odds of a recession to as much
as 40%.
And even the Federal Reserve this week lowered
its outlook for economic growth, but they said
the likelihood of a recession is, quote, not
high.
Oh, okay.
Not high?
40% is not over 50%?
Less than a half and half chance?
Less than half and half chance.
And, of course, the old definition used to
be two quarters of contraction.
Well, I'm glad you brought that up.
Interesting.
And part of the conversation was how the
recession, the previous recession, impacted us all differently,
right?
Right.
And so if you were to slip into
a recession this time, how might it be
different than what we've seen in the past?
Especially for folks who would be living through
a recession for the first time now.
So there have been 14 recessions in the
U.S. since the Great Depression of 1929.
The shortest was the one during COVID.
That lasted just two months.
Then prior to that, the Great Recession, remember,
of 2007.
Now, that one lasted a year and a
half.
It was painful.
It was triggered by the housing crisis after
banks gave risky loans to borrowers who couldn't
afford them.
That led a lot of folks to default
on their loans.
And as we know, it caused other financial
problems.
What was the...
You posted on X about...
It lasted a year and a half.
Oh, no, a year and a half.
Yeah, a year and a half.
That's about a year.
I think we both saw this and you
re-posted it.
You re-Xed it.
You re-slashed it on X.
There was something that we needed to pay
attention to that was very similar.
Oh, it was the private equity.
Private equity.
The CLOs.
The private...
Yeah, well, the private equity thing, I think,
which Horowitz and I discussed...
Tell us.
...is that these private equity operations are just
basically raping the economy.
Yes.
Yeah.
Yeah, so they buy up...
They buy something like Joann's Knitting Factory, whatever
that is called.
Joann's.
Joann's, yes.
Whatever it is.
The fabric store.
Fabrics, yes.
And then they saddle it up with debt,
but then the debt that they have is
very short-term debt with variable interest rates,
and then they can't pay back, and then
they just have to start selling off pieces
of the company.
But they've already taken their fees and their
percentages.
Well, yeah, there's also some...
a very forward scam of some sort that
has to do with taxes.
Oh, yeah, the tax loophole.
It carried interest.
Carried interest.
Yeah.
And so they get to make money on
the deal, but the company goes bankrupt.
You have to bankrupt the company to make
it work.
But ultimately...
So I know that our HVAC company, I
think they were bought up by private equity
because a lot of HVAC companies were bought
up.
So let's say...
HVAC.
Air conditioner.
Air conditioner...
Heating and air conditioning companies.
Oh, okay.
You don't have that in San Francisco.
That's why I don't know the term.
Exactly.
You just have a fireplace.
Maybe you might need that, and you got
a fan.
That's rare.
A fireplace and a fan.
Oh, it's freezing.
It's 50.
Yeah, so spark up the fireplace.
So the HVAC companies, they've bought up a
lot of these, and I think also veterinarians.
But the HVAC is interesting to me because
we have two compressors.
So if they go out of business or
they make the companies go out of business
because they have to sell off real estate
or whatever, inventory, doesn't that create an incredible
opportunity for new HVAC companies to just reboot
and start up again?
It doesn't mean like all of a sudden
there's no more HVAC engineers, no more service.
Well, you say the same thing with Joann's,
but the fact is that these companies took
a long time to roll out.
You just don't go from zero to 100.
Right.
You start with one store, then you got
two, then maybe four, then maybe eight, maybe
16.
My point is it doesn't have to be
a huge conglomerate.
You can have a Joann's fabric store in
Fredericksburg.
You can have one in Austin.
You can have one in Berkeley.
They don't have to be federated.
It doesn't seem that hard to start a
fabric store.
Well, there's fabric stores in these same towns.
There is a fabric store in Berkeley, but
the thing is it's not a mega store.
I mean, Joann's is a big store that
had all kinds of stuff besides just fabrics.
Yeah, but maybe we don't need that.
And of course, I got notes from people
because we talked about this already.
Somebody said, well, you know, the fabrics at
Joann's weren't that good.
There are better fabric stores here and there.
So it's not a loss then.
It's not a loss.
Well, if you were a Joann customer, it
is.
So the final clip from Good Morning America
is how it affects, how does this affect
normal people?
And the reason why we wanted to bring
you into our little hallway conversation is because
everybody's always talking recession, recession, recession.
But what does that mean?
Like, how does that affect the average person?
Unfortunately, millions of people can lose their jobs
in a recession because businesses and consumers, they're
pulling back on their spending.
That means companies need to slash budgets, lay
off workers.
Some companies, if you have a job, may
cut pay.
They can eliminate a bonus.
It can also be harder to get a
loan in a recession.
That's because banks become choosier about who they
lend money to, even if you have good
credit.
And of course, recessions also tend to be
bad news for the stock market, which means
your 401k can take a hit.
This is why we have chosen wisely.
Recession-proof gig.
Be a podcaster.
You've muted yourself.
I'm not sure that was actually what I
did.
I don't know how that happened, by the
way.
It happens whenever you get the spreadsheet.
When recessions happen, the donations go down.
Yes.
So we're not totally recession-proof.
We just tighten the belt.
We just tighten the belt.
What's wrong with everybody else?
I mean, it's not the worst in the
world.
In more than 17 years, have we been
through a recession?
Yes.
Yeah.
Maybe two.
We went through the 2007-2008 thing.
That's right.
That was the big boy.
Yeah.
That was the best time for us.
Remember Obama went there and said, I need
a trillion dollars.
That was great.
We went through the COVID recession.
Actually, we benefited from that one.
Yes.
Although most of those people now hate us
because we don't condemn Israel and we don't
condemn Russia.
The very same people have just...
This is absolutely true.
However, with that, I would like to thank
you for your courage and say in the
morning to you, the man who put the
C's in the cross-cutting, say hello to
my friend on the other end, the one,
the only, Mr. John C.
DeMora.
In the morning to you, Mr. Adam Curry.
In the morning, I wish you a sleepless
night.
God bless you.
In the afternoon, I wish you a good
night.
God bless you.
In the morning to our trolls in the
troll room.
Hold on one second.
Stop moving.
Let me count you for a minute.
23...
2,320 trolls are checking us out live
at the moment and I will go to...
How much?
2,320.
So I will go...
I will go to the tote board and
yes, that is 200 lower than our last
Sunday, which was 25.35. It is just,
just above the 100 show average and in
general, Sundays have been up 10.4%. So
for those of you on the prop...
The story with Queen Ursula probably drove them
away.
Well, I did give you an out on
that and we should probably stop.
Well, I was for it.
I didn't mean that the listeners were.
Well, no.
We probably shouldn't have done that.
The trolls are in the troll room, listening
at trollroom.io or perhaps they are on
one of those modern podcast apps.
Someone actually wrote me an email, says, I'm
always in the car when you're talking about
where to get those modern podcast apps.
I can't remember what it is.
Here it comes, podcastapps.com.
It doesn't seem like a tough one to
remember.
Podcastapps.com.
We are a value for value, which makes
us not recession proof, but it does make
us rage quit proof.
There's always someone who's going to rage quit
over something we said.
Yeah, there you go.
And usually those people didn't donate anyway.
So...
No, they never...
No, the number of people who are supporters,
let's say, producers, supporters, when they complain to
us about something or other, we pay careful
attention to that.
Yes.
But the drive-bys, they just drive by,
you know, or somebody told them, somebody in
their local Democrat party told them, said, here's
the podcast you want to write notes to
tell them that they're Jew lovers.
That's not true because the guy who was
the last, you called him a drive-by,
he had been listening since 2012.
And then it was the first time he
ever donated after we complained about him.
Yes.
But just because he said that, and he
just donated for the first time, doesn't mean
he...
I'm skeptical.
I think he's a listener.
I think now he's a listener.
Well, because he's been called out.
Well, also because once you donate or help
the show, in any way, even $5 a
month with a subscription donation or recurring donation
is what it really is, you are invested.
Once you're invested, then you'll be more conscientious.
And we got you on the hook.
We just have to reel you in.
It's all good.
People support us in many ways.
And emails like our Maple MAGA Canada note,
I mean, that's a great way to support
the show, to give us something of value
to talk about.
We have the best hands-down producers in
the entire media landscape, in the entire media
universe.
There is not a single thing we can't
talk about or that we can talk about
that someone out there isn't in that industry.
It's baffling how often it happens.
And so you can...
Yeah, they keep us on the straight and
narrow.
That's right.
I mean, we just got the constitutional lawyer,
Rob, just putting us straight.
Yeah, right.
Or during the show.
During the show.
Yeah, during the show.
And the trolls, of course, they help out
as well.
They do that.
They do?
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
Well, they also just try to get my
goat.
But they...
No, often they'll correct.
Like I said, apophora, it was hypophora.
You know, it's like little mistakes like that.
It's good to be able to correct that
in real time.
And they're just fun.
And they smell pretty decent.
No, they don't.
Yeah, they do.
They do.
We have many artists who participate in our
grand bi-weekly contest.
Who can create the best art for the
show that we will use in the MP3
file itself and in the podcast feed.
And we use it to promote the show
everywhere.
Now, this was very interesting because the artwork
that we chose for episode 1748, we titled
that Brain Rot.
I did not notice until it was pointed
out to me that...
And it was brilliant, by the way.
It was the steel porcupine strategy that Ursula
von der Leyen talked about, that this is
what they're going to turn Ukraine into, into
a steel porcupine.
So, there were many steel porcupine images.
This one was great because it was a
really nice picture of a steel porcupine.
It was sitting right in front of kind
of on the Ukraine flag, which made it...
That was really the big hit.
But did you notice that no agenda is
not spelled no agenda?
No, I did not notice this.
How is it spelled?
It's spelled no agenda.
There's two Gs.
No agenda.
I'm trying to think.
Oh, you had the AI spell it.
That's why.
That's what I think.
And we didn't even see it.
This is unbelievable.
No agenda.
I'd like to look at it now, but
there are generators down.
Oh, you're kidding me.
Oh, no.
No.
No, it's not down for me.
It's not for me.
It's down for me.
Well, try it again.
Maybe you misspelled it.
No, I hit it twice already.
Yeah, hit it again.
Hit it one more time.
You must be missing.
Okay, let me hit it.
Let me hit it real hard.
It came up real fast for me.
Oh, my head.
It's coming up fast.
No, no.
You're doing something wrong.
How am I doing anything wrong?
Well, because, you know, turn off your VPN.
I'm not on a VPN.
Okay.
The second window's open, it's still not coming
up.
Well, that's interesting.
There's got to be a localized situation, something
to do with my internet.
Yes.
Well, it comes up fine for me, and
I'll just try and remind you of the
things we looked at, which was pretty much
all porcupines.
There was, Darren O'Neill did a chemistry
set.
By the way, did you know that chemistry
sets, they're illegal to be sold in the
state of Texas?
Well, that's because the kids in Texas are
stupid.
No, they're not.
They just make stuff that blows up.
Why would you ban, this is the legislature
there.
These people that run Texas are not up
to par.
Well, the people in the Senate, they are
up to par.
The people in the House, they're basically Democrats.
Yeah, and you've got other Democrats from that
state, like Jasmine Crockett is from Texas.
Yeah.
How does that work?
Not Maxine Waters, but the other one that
used to be from Texas.
Listen to this.
In Texas, and only in Texas, it is
illegal to own any chemistry equipment without an
explicit license from the state.
I can't even have a titration device or
a pipette?
A test tube?
Is it pipette or pipette?
Erlenmeyer flask?
No, stop with your flask.
In order to apply for a license, you
must present a legitimate business reason for the
ownership of the equipment.
So, podcaster would probably not be a legitimate
business interest for a pipette, I'm thinking.
Correct a record, had a steel porcupine, a
blue acorn.
Darren O'Neill, of course, tried it.
I mean, that was AI stuff.
Was there anything else?
You used the big, beautiful battleship, so I
believe a blue acorn for the newsletter I
saw, which was nice.
Yes, I did.
That's nice for a newsletter.
It's kind of hard for the album art,
because it's typically not very large.
Yeah, it's too small.
Yeah, on the podcast apps.
So, we'd love to know, Data, who did...
Oh, you know what?
We missed it, but Data posted a fixed
version of the steel porcupine, correctly spelled, later
on.
Oh, but we missed it.
He posted it today.
He posted it today.
Oh, so good.
Thanks for nothing.
So, but there you go.
That just shows you, not only is AI
stupid, but we're even stupider than AI, because
we didn't catch it.
We were so enthralled by the porcupine and
the flag that we just...
Yeah, I think the porcupine also had bullets
for hands or something.
Yeah, no, it's a beautiful piece.
There's a lot of stuff going on.
It's a beautiful piece.
So, thank you very much, Data.
I did also get a note from our
Triple J, who had the artwork before that.
That was the flying Volkswagen, the VW Boomer.
So, it was T-I-1-P-P
-L-E-J.
Hi, Adam and John.
We are thrilled our VW Boomer piece was
selected for show 1747.
Our artist name is supposed to be Triple
J-T-R exclamation point P-L-E
-J, but I clearly didn't check the typing
before clicking submit.
We chose the name because there are three
of us, my girlfriend, myself, and our dog.
And we all have names that start with
the letter J.
Listening since 2021, I hit my girlfriend, parents,
and neighbor in the mouth.
We're excited to return the value of the
show in the form of our towns, maybe
even some treasure before long.
Thanks for keeping us sane with the show.
Regards from Maine.
Maine, oh, man.
Having anyone from Maine is a win.
Triple J.
Triple J.
Thank you very much, Triple J.
So, the art generator came up when I
used the Microsoft browser, but it won't come
up with Firefox.
Oh, Firefox.
You know, Firefox, they've gone all woke now.
Oh, they've been woke for a long time.
That's why that guy quit and went to
start Bravo.
Yeah, but they— Or Brave.
Bravo.
It's the Bravo browser, everybody.
I always say that.
I haven't used Firefox in years, and I
have a suspicion that they're blocking stuff.
I know that there's forks of Firefox, and
they're even woker than Firefox.
Well, it's like Mastodon's so woke.
Well, only mastodon.com.
No, all of them.
Mastodon.social. There's a lot of—I would say
90% of the Mastodon instances are woke,
super woke.
Not as bad as BlueSky, which took over
the woke contingent.
Let's check in BlueSky and let's see if
anyone's yelling at me.
I check BlueSky maybe one time a month.
Oh, I have 22 notifications.
Let's see.
22 notifications.
The same exact effing people who say, this
guy was a guest in America, get him
the F out, are the people in any
other country who scream, I'm an American, why
are you arresting me?
I demand it.
No, this is the same guy.
There's one guy who posts 22 times.
Okay.
All right, goodbye.
He doesn't like you.
No, no.
It's BlueSky.
Nobody likes me.
Nobody likes me over there.
Nobody likes anybody over there.
They're just a bunch of haters.
Yeah, they are.
So, again, thank you very much, Data.
We appreciate that.
Now we want to thank the people who
gave us the treasure of the three T's.
You got Triple J, Triple T, Time, Talent,
and Treasure.
Artists, thank you all so much.
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Both seem to work perfectly fine.
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$300 and above, you get the coveted executive
producership, and we will read your note.
And we kick it off with Ty Ryan
Everett from Port Angeles, Washington.
Speaking of woke, isn't Port Angeles super woke?
This is Sir Tim from Squim.
He is the guy who's going to be
running the boards and taking part in the
Pod Angeles studios.
Oh, it's right.
I see.
So he came in with $1,200, and
here's his note.
Hello, John.
Two separate donations of seven and five.
My name is T.
Ryan Everett.
I am the studio manager of the new
Pod Angeles podcast studio in Port Angeles, Washington.
All right.
I'm also an avid Noah Jenner listener.
I have been so since 2014.
I heard through the grapevine about a podcast
that might just interest me.
So I did.
I listened, and I didn't stop.
My brother, Eric, with a C, who also
listens, knew I was a douchebag and donated
$300 to make me an executive producer of
show 1457 and to de-douche me.
My father passed away recently and left me
some treasure that he wanted to share with
you.
Do you think that was in his will?
Maybe.
Well, that's excellent.
We need more of that.
Well, he says he wanted me to share.
He left me some treasure that he wanted
to share with you, the best podcast in
the universe.
The enclosed $700 is to bring me up
to full knight status.
The other $500 is to become a commodore,
as I would like to be T.
Ryan Everett, commodore to the port of the
angels.
I would also like to be knighted as
Sir Tim from Squim, and I would like
Korean barbecue and Red Dragon at the roundtable.
And he goes on to say, I recently
watched a documentary about heroes and why they
jump into action while others just watch.
They found that heroes have a larger amygdala
than those that just watch them.
Hmm, interesting.
There's also one other thing that goes along
with this donation.
I feel it's time, and I believe Mimi
agrees, that the Podangelist studio is ready for
business.
I'm excited and willing to learn from the
Podfather and the Tech Grouch as they truly
have the best podcast in the universe.
And it also gives me the opportunity to
steal and save Adam's settings on the Rodecaster
Pro 2.
Oh, really now?
You think $1,200 is going to get
my settings?
Hmm.
You can get his settings for free.
I want a piece of that Podangelist studio
deal.
You should give me some shares in that.
I also must disagree with four more years
because I believe perfection has no time limit.
You owe it to your producers and your
fans around the world.
Humbly, T.
Ryan Everett, Sir Tim from Squim, Commodore of
the Port of Angels.
All right, I will have your Korean barbecue
lined up, and I already ordered the Red
Dragon.
And thank you very much, soon-to-be
Sir Tim from Squim.
There's a funny story about Sir Tim.
He's talking to Mimi, and he says, you
think Adam's going to come up and visit
the studios?
That was Mimi's reaction.
That is pretty funny.
Why would I do that?
Give me a piece of that outfit.
That's what I said, too.
That was my reaction, the second one.
Yeah, you should give me, like, 5%
founder shares.
I might consider coming up.
You'll get some action.
Yeah, I want some back end.
Harry Seward, or Sea War.
Make me whole on this deal.
Yeah, yeah.
Woodstock, Georgia, 103342.
That's good.
Very nice.
I'm coming to you from FEMA Region 4
with hat in hand.
Uh-oh.
And asking forgiveness for 4.5 years of
douchebaggery.
I first discovered The Greatest Podcast in the
Universe in the 2020 election.
I finally made the long overdue donation to
the show in the amount of 103342, and
we'll be starting a sustaining donation each month,
which is a good idea.
Very good idea.
We've lost a lot of our sustaining donors.
Yep.
If it would suit the peerage committee, I'd
like to be instantiated as Sir Harry Seaward
of FEMA Region 4.
I would need a de-douching.
You've been de-douched.
Now, is that Seaward or Seaward?
That's the question.
Seaward, I think it's Seaward.
Oh, Seaward.
I think it's like Seaward.
Seaward, okay.
Seaward.
Not just a Seaward, okay.
It's W-A-R-D, Ward.
A note to fellow listeners, if I had
made a recurring donation of less than $2
.25 per show— That's $2.25. $2.25
a show, since I started listening, I would
have been knighted a while ago and could
have avoided a 4.5 years of bowel
-shaking guilt.
Don't be a Harry Seaward.
I would also like to request emergency health
and jobs karma.
We can do that.
The health karma is for my mother, possibly
the sweetest and most generous woman who has
ever graced the earth.
She's 81 and very healthy, but was recently
diagnosed with a cell carcinoma encasing her carotid
artery that is wreaking havoc on her body.
It's causing her to pass out unexpectedly.
Oh, wow.
That's no good.
Going to AFib.
Going to AFib, and she's currently only able
to get pureed foods and drink thick liquids.
This jobs karma is for me, as I
need to find a new role that will
allow me to spend more time with her
and help care for her.
As a dude named Ben named Harry, another
dude named Ben, with nearly 30 years of
IT experience, I have a few good leads,
and I am confident that some karma from
the no agenda nation can push me over
the top.
Jingle requests are eating the dogs and due
to climate change.
Yes, and for you and for your mom,
I will add in some white Christian nationalist
prayer.
They're eating the dogs.
Due to climate change.
Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.
Let's vote for jobs.
You've got karma.
That brings us to our next executive producer,
John Fehlman.
Fehlman.
F-E-H-L-M-A-N.
Fehlman.
Fehlman.
Hello, Fehlman.
Thank you all for the amazing work that
you both do.
This is my second time donating, but the
value I've received through listening to you both
has been much more valuable than what I've
been able to contribute so far.
A lot of people say that, but we
understand.
You both were instrumental in helping my family
and I remain sane during the lunacy of
the COVID years, like we're not in lunacy
now.
We knew there was something off with the
messaging machine of the M5M, and y'all
were vital in showing us it was nonsense
because you both kept the receipts.
This donation brings me to knighthood, so please
knight me, Sir John of the North State.
I request Lagunitas Hi-Fi Cannabis drinks.
I've never heard of this.
Is that what it is?
Lagunitas?
Hold on, I just lost my, yeah.
Lagunitas Hi-Fi Cannabis drinks and a Harris
Ranch ribeye at the round table.
Could you please play the Noodle Boy jingle
as well as Dvorak.org.na, which is
my son's favorite.
Happy to do it.
Don't go to the website.
Thank you again for all that you do,
and four more years.
I'm gonna shoot you in the face with
my noodle gun, you racist pizza shears.
I got my pasta glock locked and loaded.
Dvorak.org.na. All right.
Now I got another note, but before I
read this one, I want to mention, I
want to thank Robert Majors for sending me
a big, giant triple bags of Hawkins, which
are also called Cheezys from Canada through Amazon.
It's like a Cheetos.
It's like that extruded cheese thing that we
make in this country, only it's made with
real cheddar.
You mean like Cheetos?
Cheetos, yeah.
Only the substrate, I don't believe, is as
good as the product that we get.
I love the term substrate.
I think that should be used more often.
Do people even know what substrate is anymore?
It's the underlying architecture.
Yes, substrate.
Fantastic word.
Word of the day.
So these Hawkins, I guess they don't advertise.
I've been to Canada a lot, and I've
never seen this product.
When's the last time you were in Canada?
Well, it was years ago, but besides the
point, these Hawkins have been around forever.
I hear things have changed.
I don't know.
I doubt it.
But this donation comes in from Sir Anonymous,
and he sent a piece of paper in
with a check, and his letterhead says crackpot
and buzzkill on it.
Oh, that's his letterhead?
That's interesting.
He's a donor who's been around for a
while.
A donor.
For the show, he's got a long note,
but he only wants this to be read.
For the show, thank you for your courage
and your continued deconstruction.
It's been too long since my last donation.
I'm sorry, my last tithing.
Please de-douche me.
You've been de-douched.
No jingles, no karma.
This is Sir Anonymous, the Viscount of the
ADFC and the Arapahoe County.
Sir Anonymous, not Sir Anonymous.
Sir Anonymous, not Anonymous.
Anonymous, yes.
All right, thank you.
We move on to 333.33, one of
our favorite donation amounts from Sir Jeff in
Bethlehem, Pennsylvania, and he just says, ITM, Sir
Jeff, Baron of PA Route 33, and thank
you for your support and the short note.
That is...
Onward to Sir Mark.
Yeah.
He's in Tokyo.
Yeah, Sir Mark Dython, he's in Tokyo.
He would be Grand Duke.
Grand Duke, yeah.
Archduke, Archduke.
No, Archduke, Archduke.
Archduke, yes, Archduke.
333.33, dear John and Adam, please wish
Dame Astrid a very happy birthday for yesterday,
January 22nd of March.
She was so happy, she is back in
full force after her trip up just before
Christmas.
Thanks to all your good wishes and incredibly
efficient Japanese health services.
Her recovery was miraculous, just like Steve Austin.
This time with 6 million yen, they had
the technology to build her back better.
Her back is good.
To build her back better.
There you go.
With Kyocera inside.
Hey, I had one of those flip phones,
the Kyocera.
Nice.
Early birthday wishes to John for April 5th.
Ah, yes.
We're truly the gang of Aries.
With my birthday up shortly, too.
Love from Tokyo, Sir Mark, Archduke of Japan,
Japan Sea, and all the disputed islands.
Oh, yeah, that's right.
He's going to be 60.
Big 6-0.
And happy birthday, Dame Astrid.
Kiss, kiss from afar.
333 from Anonymous in Bailey, Colorado.
Bailey, a Colorado Anonymous, says, thank you for
all you do.
And we say thank you very much.
Meanwhile, Mary Verhanovitch in East Lansing, Michigan, comes
in with 300 bucks with no note whatsoever.
It came in as a check.
Wanted to just give her the double up
karma.
You got it.
Double up on the way.
You've got double up karma.
Which brings us to our first associate executive
producer with 233.33. It is from The
Candyman, which I think may be stolen valor
because The Candyman, as far as I know,
is our knight there in Finland.
But there can be more than one Candyman.
ITM gentlemen, you're San Francisco refugee.
The Candyman here, lover of eggs and protector
of bunnies.
The chocolate kind, of course.
I have a real boots on the ground
update for you knights and dames out there.
Always eat the bunny ears first.
They're calorie free.
They really are.
Well, there's a tip of the day.
Need some bunny ears for your loved ones?
Ah, hop on over to littlejohnscandies.com and
use code ITM10 for 10% off your
eggs and bunnies and other handcrafted treats.
Four more years, but no jingles, says Christopher.
Yes.
I got the batch of stuff from them
finally and the hoodie.
Did you get the turtles?
Did you get turtles?
We got turtles.
I never got turtles.
What kind of candies did you get then?
Did you open the box?
I did various.
Some fudge and some toffee.
Two different boxes.
I had no turtles.
No, the turtles were amazing.
Turtles.
But I also got a hoodie.
Yes, I got a hoodie too.
It was pink and guess what?
Tina hijacked it right away.
I'm wearing that now.
Mine was black.
Mine was black.
It wasn't pink.
I got the gay one.
They send you the pink one.
That makes sense.
Yeah, they gave me the gay one, so
Tina took it.
It's good.
Thank you, Candyman.
Appreciate it.
You can get the next one too while
you're here.
Yes, that would be the wheat.
Wheat.
From London, Ontario.
Canada, 321.1. No, 232.1. Sorry.
Time has passed since my last donation, but
here are...
Ah, this will have to be an upgrade.
Here are 333 Canada American Looney Tunes buckaroos.
Yes, we do honor that.
Even though you don't have a statehood yet.
Not sure if I was credited with this
for my earlier donations, but it isn't going
to matter right now or right shortly.
Do not listen to We the 51st podcast
until it happens.
Sorry about your luck, John.
I guess we'll just whine and cry our
way to being Americans.
To my fellow hypnotized Canadians, what does it
mean to you to be a Canadian?
Is it being ruled and controlled and having
your history derived by the royal pedophilia empire?
Oh, jeez.
I think you'd get arrested in Canada for
saying that.
Are you attached to the policies and regulations
that are taking your firearms rights away?
Do you embrace how a Western central banker
and elite globalist ignored any previous rules and
walked in as your leader named Mark Carney?
Please flood our email, wethe51st at gmail.com
and tell us what it is.
Now that your media is pounding into your
pea brains to, Where were you all during
COVID when they were shutting small businesses down?
Why would you not want to become an
energetic and economic powerhouse of the world?
You can hang on to your precious Naflantum
and your Tim Hortons coffees and the image
of the media has built for you.
I love Canada.
Separate from the evil crown and the love
Canada teaming up with America to expose these
demons.
All First Nations should negotiate the conditions of
the deal as they were the real losers
of the War of 1812.
Wake up, Yeshua is king.
Wake up, Yeshua is king.
There you go.
The wheat.
He is indeed.
Thank you.
Crazy note.
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A higher concurrent studios if you want results.
Wake up, Katie.
Wake up.
Thank you for your courage to $11.65.
You've got karma.
Got to work on the copy of LaJollaSalt.
But you're getting there.
Tighten it up.
Here's an example.
Eli the coffee guy.
Bensonville, Illinois.
203.23. And he knows how to do
it.
He says, I've been thoroughly enjoying the show
lately.
But can we get some more Africa news?
Regardless of the conflicts going on in the
Congo and Rwanda, we still have a fine
selection of African coffees as well as beans
from across the globe.
Visit GigawattCoffeeRoasters.com and use code ITM20 for
20% off your order.
Thank you for your courage and stay caffeinated,
says Eli the coffee guy.
Linda Lou Patkins is the last on our
list.
And she's from Lakewood, Colorado with her pitch.
$200.
Jobs, karma.
For a competitive edge with a resume that
gets results, go to ImageMakersInc.com for all
your executive resume and job search needs.
That's ImageMakersInc with a K.
And work with Linda Lou, Duchess of Jobs
and writer of resumes.
Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.
Let's vote for jobs.
You've got karma.
And that concludes our executive and associate executive
producer thankage for episode 1749.
We're almost at the big 1750.
1,750 shows.
It's unbelievable.
Thank you.
That's the next show.
Next show, that's correct.
Sounds like a donation amount to me.
Sounds like, yeah.
Yeah, $17.50 or $1,700.
Yes, or $17,000.
I think that's the one.
$17,500 or $1,750,000.
I'm just saying.
It's all possible.
Put us in your will.
Thank you, executive and associate executive producers.
These credits are completely legitimate for you to
use in scenarios of entertainment in Hollywood.
You can use it on your LinkedIn and
your profile.
You can put it on your resume.
And you can also, if you don't have
one already, open up an IMDb.com account
and proudly post it there.
We'll be thanking the other donors, $50 and
above, in our second segment.
Once again, thank you for supporting the best
podcast in the universe, episode 1749.
Our formula is this.
We go out.
We hit people in the mouth.
They're eating the dogs.
Shut up, Steve.
I hit.
No, go ahead.
No, go ahead.
After you, sir.
Well, let's do these.
I got a series of clips from PBS
on it because I think there's a show
title.
Deep fake nudes.
A new report offers a troubling look at
the latest digital threat to young people.
Deep fake nudes.
These are realistic photos and videos that have
been altered using AI technology to depict the
subjects in sexually explicit situations and then spread
online.
Stephanie Sy spoke with Melissa Strobel.
She's vice president of research and insights at
Thorn, a nonprofit dedicated to protecting children online.
Melissa, thank you so much for joining us.
Before we get to these findings, could you
start by just explaining what deep fake nudes
are?
Absolutely.
So deep fake nudes are synthetic media creations
that depict a real person in a sexually
suggestive or explicit situation or activity.
What were the main findings in this report?
Who was impacted the most by the creation
and spread of these deep fakes?
So what we heard from young people in
this survey, and we surveyed about twelve hundred
13 to 20 year olds, is unfortunately this
is becoming all too common of an experience
within their landscape and growing up.
In particular, one in eight told us that
they knew someone who had been particularly targeted,
specifically targeted by and impacted by deep fake
nudes.
On top of that, we heard that one
in 17 themselves had been targeted by deep
fake nude abuse.
Now, sometimes that number can feel a little
bit small.
One in 17, that's a small percentage.
But when we think about what 17 looks
like in our communities, that's the size of
our kids classroom.
That's the size of their soccer team.
So this is really far too high a
number for kids to be experiencing this type
of victimization.
I like the topic.
I do not like it as a show
title.
I'm just going to tell you right now.
Deep fake nudes you don't like as a
show title?
No, it's not going to be a show
title.
There's nothing I can do about it.
You're going to veto it no matter what
I do.
Yes, that's correct.
I'm vetoing it.
I'm pre-vetoing it.
I don't know why you have to announce
that on the show itself.
Well, I'm going to tell you why when
you're done with your clips.
It's a tease.
Here we go.
Okay.
It's a tease.
By the way, let's stop this.
Stop the show.
There's three clips here.
Yes.
This is nothing even remotely new.
No.
The day that Photoshop came out, I don't
have the exact date, but I think it
was in probably the 90s, early 90s, or
maybe the late 80s.
Could look that up.
I'll look it up.
Immediately, somebody would take somebody's head, because you
can easily take a head off of somebody
with a Photoshop, cut the head off and
put it on a nude body and have
them doing something, whatever the nude is, because
there's always been porn around it.
You could drop someone else's head on.
It's not a new thing.
And I know people were complaining about it.
They've had to pass laws long before AI
came around to keep people from doing this
and then posting them as a revenge porn,
as it's usually called.
Well, since you stopped the show for this
commentary, yes, that is true.
But the speed and ease at which generative
AI, which is not to be confused with
agentic AI or quantum, it's too easy.
So it's just so simple to make it,
and the life likeness of it is pretty
good.
You don't really need the skills that were
previously required for Photoshop.
And if you hear the numbers, they're quite
staggering.
So it's nothing new, but it has gotten
a bit out of control.
OK, I can accept that.
But it's nothing new.
No.
And I think the other thing is I
think the kids are aware that this is
bull crap when they see these pictures.
Well.
They must be aware of the fact that
these pictures are fake.
Yeah, but the harm that is done to
children when it's passed around.
I mean, for my money, it comes back
to don't give your kid a phone.
Don't let them on social media.
Don't let them take pictures and post them
of themselves.
You may think it's what the kids do
right now, but, you know, you could also.
That's been my policy, too.
And this is this has been your policy
for as long as I've known you.
It's like, why would you do that?
Yeah, it doesn't make sense.
OK.
The other important thing that came through here
was about the availability of this technology.
And for the kids who told us that
they had created deep fake news of someone
else, the technology is really readily available.
It's available through social media, through browsers and
through app stores.
But the good news is, is that most
kids realize this is a harmful behavior.
And so there's a lot of opportunity for
us to be having conversations with them and
reinforcing those perspectives.
You know, one interesting part of your research
that I read were the responses from some
of these teens.
Even though we call these manipulated images deep
fakes, in a way, they're very real.
Right.
Especially if you're a victim of deep fakes.
Yeah, very true.
For those young people who've experienced deep fake
news abuse, they have shared with us stories
of severe anxiety, fear, shame, as well as
worries that they won't be believed or that
their experiences will be dismissed because of the
involvement of AI generative technologies.
What is being done about AI safety right
now?
What should be being done?
Because we're basically talking about minor sexual abuse.
This is absolutely right.
At the end of the day, whether AI
generative technologies was involved or not, an explicit
image of a minor is still child sexual
abuse material.
And that's a really important starting point.
I like this sentence, what should be being
done?
I mean, that's a very interesting construction.
I'm trying to create a deep fake nude
of you with Grok while we're doing this
story.
And Grok is creating images, but it's not
what I'm asking for.
Why don't you do one of yourself?
You got a lot more photos online than
I do.
It's more fun.
I want you to see what it's like.
Okay, we'll go to clip three and then
we'll look at it later.
There are responses across the ecosystem taking place.
For example, our organization has been working directly
with tech companies to make sure that these
models are being built as safely as possible.
And if they are aware of abusive models,
that those are being made unavailable so that
they can't be so readily accessed.
But there's a lot more work to be
done.
Right now, we don't have a consistent institutional
response that's reinforcing what kids already suspect.
And that's an opportunity where we need to
lean in and offer more guidance for kids.
In the meantime, what should parents and other
caretakers be doing to make sure that their
teens are safe?
Having really open and early conversations with the
young people in our lives is going to
be one of the most important steps we
can be doing at home.
Make sure that kids understand this is not
a joke, it is not funny, and it
carries real consequences for the kids that are
being targeted.
Naming that openly and directly at home is
an important first step.
But we can be doing more for other
adults within our communities, such as within schools.
There's a lot of need for there to
be clear guidance within schools for their school
bodies that this is not permissible behavior.
There are student handbooks in place that address
things like harassment.
This is something that we can lean into
and acknowledge this type of emerging risk and
have policies in place that make sure that
schools are prepared to respond in a victim
-centered way.
Now, was there any other substance to this
report before you cut it up?
And I have a reason for asking.
Not that I know of.
Did they at any point mention the first
lady of the United States, Melania Trump?
No.
This is why it's not a good show
title.
This is her actual issue.
She had a huge roundtable.
The president introduced it, I'm thinking maybe three,
four weeks ago.
She's supporting a bill that aims to stop
AI-generated nudes.
It's called the Take It Down Act.
And it's literally...
I thought there was already a law that
required you to take this down.
No, no.
They never got it passed.
They never got it passed.
This is supported by Senator Cruz, also Amy
Klobuchar.
So it's a bipartisan.
Meta even has come out and said that
they support it.
And it literally is called, you know, the
problem is called deepfake nudes.
And I am not surprised but shocked that
NPR would not take the time to mention...
Now would you bring that up?
Yeah, to mention that this is the first
lady's issue.
This is a classic example of them not
telling you certain things.
It's like the clips I played earlier where
they wouldn't tell you how much money was
being squandered on that stupid...
Yes.
You know, the study on vaccine hesitancy.
Yes.
Why wasn't that mentioned?
And they should have...
What you just said should have been mentioned
in this report.
Absolutely.
As the kicker.
Yep.
No, no.
They can't do that because then all of
a sudden, oh, no, it's a Trump thing.
And then no one will want to pass
the bill.
This NPR and PBS at this point in
history is just useless.
Yes.
So are we just going to stop playing
clips from them now?
I'm sorry, the mic's not...
The speakers aren't working.
Hello?
Is this thing on?
So I'll pivot from this into a little
bit of AI talk here for a moment.
As it seems the whole world has now
gone agentic AI, which as far as I
can...
And many people have emailed me about this,
and I appreciate it.
It's really machine learning.
So they're just saying it's AI.
Oh, it's AI.
It's AI.
It's AI.
It's AI.
But it's, you know, the machine goes in,
finds a form, understands the question, fills out
the form for you.
And this brings me to a minor boots
on the ground.
Tina had ordered a dress online, lots of
online shopping.
Dresses are very inexpensive online.
And so it was this typical, oh, it's
in stock.
And it was in stock in this color
that she wanted.
And she bought one for herself.
She bought one for her girlfriend who she's
visiting in Florida at the end of the
month, different color.
And then she gets an email.
Oh, sorry, this one was not in stock.
So she fires, she goes to the website.
No, actually, it was on email.
She fires off an email and says, well,
you know, this is not cool because you
told me it was in stock.
It said so on your website.
Is this Teemu?
No, no, no.
It's an American company.
I don't know what the name of it
was.
And she said, well, then can I get
it in the same color that I had
it in?
No, we can't do that.
We can't change the order.
But it will be back in stock April
23rd.
And she says, well, yeah, but I'm going.
I need this to take to my girlfriend
in Florida at the end of this month.
Well, then can you just refund my money?
No, we can't refund your money.
So now Tina's mad.
And she's like, oh, yeah?
Oh, yeah?
Well, you're going to have a very unhappy
customer.
And I'm going to blast you everywhere on
social media.
And my husband's a podfather.
And you do not want to do this
to me.
And then she got an email back.
Oh, hi, hi, hi.
It's Emily.
That was the bot.
I'm taking over here.
We can definitely refund your money.
So she was conversing with a bot.
And these bots are no good.
This is the problem with the so-called
AI is it's just it sucks.
And I think that for all the money
that goes into training these bots to make
them even resemble some human emotion or, dare
I say, be empathetic to the customer.
Well, this would not have been an issue.
I'm going to argue this.
All right.
The bot could have done, if the bot
was programmed with the old adage, the classic
retailer's adage, the customer is always right, this
wouldn't have happened.
The bot was programmed by some nerd that
doesn't, never been in retail, doesn't know that
the customer's always right.
And this is what you get.
This is the responsibility of the CEO of
the company.
I don't think so.
I'm not so sure that these bots are
so easily trainable by these online retail outfits.
They're getting a bot from somewhere.
They run it through their, you know, here
comes the consultant.
Well, it's going to cost you $15,000,
but we're going to train it on all
of your shopping experiences.
And then it just sucks.
And at the end of the day, you
would have been better to just have a
human being answer this.
Human beings are the new AI.
I'm telling you, it's going to happen.
This bot experience sucks.
And it doesn't seem like it's going to
have much of a future anyway, because the
pivot to quantum is here.
The pivot to quantum is here.
And the number one AI guy, what's his
name?
Quang, Quang, Jensen.
Jensen, what's his name?
Jensen Wang.
Jensen Wang, who is now, who just did
an entire presentation of their new upcoming quantum
chip for quantum AI.
Screwed the pooch.
The story of quantum computing stocks this year
really has been all about volatility.
These stocks experience remarkable growth just over the
last year.
You've seen triple, quadruple digit percentage gains.
And it really started when Alphabet announced their
quantum chip breakthrough in early December.
The sector saw a huge rise or spike.
But then on January 8th, the sell off
continued, or you saw it really dip down.
And that was after CEO Jensen Wang from
NVIDIA stated at CES that quantum tech was
likely 15 to 30 years away from practical
implementation.
The market reaction was immediate and severe.
So you can really see that dip on
your screen to the left of those.
Rigetti fell 45 percent.
D-Wave quantum down 36 percent.
IonQ down 39 percent.
Quantum computing 43.
All in a single trading session.
So you get it.
You see the volatility.
And today's event, where NVIDIA's founder, CEO Jensen
Wang, he's going to share the stage with
14 quantum CEOs.
Not all of them are, you know, CEOs
of publicly traded companies.
But there's going to be, it appears to
be really an attempt to rebuild the relationship
with the quantum computing sector.
And the timing is particularly noteworthy as well.
It was announced this quantum day just one
week after he made those CES comments in
January.
And following Tuesday's announcement in his keynote that
NVIDIA is also developing a quantum computing research
center in Boston.
So you can see that his tone, I
guess, is more pleasant.
Not pleasant, but just more optimistic about the
technology.
And despite today's gathering, though, quantum stocks continue
to trade down, heading into the event and
remain substantially below their previous highs.
The ongoing volatility really underscores the speculative nature
of investments in this emerging technology sector, which
we continue to cover, given that volatility, guys.
I think Jensen Wang is a great porn
name.
He should consider a career change.
Quantum computing is the new climate change, John.
That's what that is.
It's all bull.
It's smoke and mirrors.
It's all of this, this AI, it's all
fantastic for making deep fake nudes.
It's really good at that.
It's great at making, you know, Scaramanga makes
movies about Jesus in a coffee shop.
It's great for that stuff.
But I just, you know.
We know your position.
But I would be all for, I mean,
think of the exit strategy.
If we could train an AI to have
our views and our insight, and we have
17 years of transcripts and audio to train
an LLM, a large language multimodal model on
it, and do our voices, and answer an
email or two, we could kick back and
relax, baby.
How come we can't get this?
We could.
Show me.
Well, I'm not going to do it.
Why?
For one thing, it wouldn't have the contemporaneous
gags.
So you're telling me AI is no good.
The old material, the jokes would be recycled.
Of course, a lot of people haven't heard
the material anyway.
You're making my point for me.
You might be right.
I'll talk to some people about it.
Yeah, okay, yeah.
Let's go with it.
I've got an insult clip here.
This is a good one.
This is floating around.
This is Gavin Newsom on his podcast talking
about Latinx.
This is a clip from CNN.
This is how bad it is.
If Newsom's trying to get off the track,
off the Democrat track, to run for president
by being, like, sensible, it's not going to
happen because they're going to dog him, and
here's the example.
Not one person ever in my office has
ever used the word Latinx.
So can we finally put that to bed?
No more Latinx, everybody.
Well, I just didn't even know where it
came from.
I'm like, what are people talking about?
But there was a person who used Latinx.
It was actually a really important person.
It was him, right?
Yeah, that's right.
And look, these aren't minor shifts.
These are progressive issues that Gavin Newsom used
to champion until fairly recently, and now he's
not just walking away from them.
He's sort of acting like they were never
legitimate with that clip talking about Latinx in
the first place.
But let's just, let's take Latinx.
We did find somebody who used it repeatedly
in his office.
Let's take a listen to this.
I hope we can really paint a picture
in terms of our consciousness of how impactful
this has been on the Latinx community.
Latinx community, the Latinx and black communities.
You've got politicians that are banning not assault
rifles, but the word Latinx.
They're not even serious.
Yeah.
I think Gavin Newsom thought he could be
the new Joe Rogan of the left.
But it's looking more and more like Bill
Burr is going to be that guy.
He's showing up everywhere.
No, Bill Burr can't do it.
I'm not saying he can't.
See, Rogan is a kind of normalized American.
He has questions.
He's not a mean-spirited prick like Bill
Burr, which is why he's funny.
Bill Burr is hilarious, but he is a
mean-spirited, unhappy person.
Classic comedian, by the way.
Most of them are this way by their
nature.
And Bill Burr is not of the sort
of person that could bring out anything in
anybody.
He'd be afraid from the get-go that
he's going to just slam you for something.
I will say Rogan is a comedian, but
Rogan is not the same kind of comedian.
Rogan is more of a Jerry Seinfeld observational
comedian, not a mean-spirited prick.
So, no.
But I do not think that precludes him
from getting a big Google YouTube deal to
be the Joe Rogan of the left.
He can get a deal, but so what?
Maybe that's our exit strategy.
We've talked about it before.
Get a deal?
You can't get a deal with the material
we do.
No, but we can change our material.
Go soft?
No, not soft.
Go, you know, let's be more empathetic.
It's the Empathy Joes.
The Empathy Show.
We could do it.
Be very empathetic.
Yeah, well, you could.
I don't know.
It's against my religion.
Let's go to, since we're talking about Newsom,
Cal, Cap, and Trade.
They're keeping this in play.
I thought it was dead, the idea of
Cap and Trade.
For climate change?
Cap and Trade for climate change?
Yeah, under Cal.
And what outfit is this?
I believe this is NPR.
Southern California legislator Jackie Irwin can easily list
the ways that the effects of climate change
are hitting the state.
Cycles of intense flooding.
Historic droughts.
Rising seas.
Threaten our coastlines.
Unprecedented heat waves.
And closest to home for me, devastating wildfires.
Those fires, like the ones that tore through
Los Angeles earlier this year, are making life
more expensive for all Californians.
Weather through rising utility bills.
Because power companies are raising prices to update
their equipment and limit the risk of starting
wildfires.
On top of that.
Insurance premiums.
Which are going up for homeowners to cover
the massive.
Did the Radiolabs people edit this?
What is this?
Insurance premiums.
Which are going up for homeowners to cover
the massive losses insurers like State Farm are
incurring in these disasters.
Poll after poll has shown this is the
number one issue for California voters.
The cost of living.
That's James Gallagher, the Republican leader in the
state assembly.
His party sees an opportunity to use anxiety
over costs to chip away at the super
majorities Democrats hold in both houses.
We need to do something.
We need to act urgently on this issue.
And Republicans are prepared to do so.
But Republicans still have no real leverage at
the California capitol.
It's Democrats who are now facing the challenge
of weighing affordability against another top party priority.
Reducing greenhouse gas emissions that are worsening these
climate disasters.
And that balancing act could result in changes
to the state's landmark climate initiative known as
cap and trade.
That program is a key way states like
California and Washington have come to fight climate
change on their own.
Apart from the federal government.
You know, I was talking to one of
our guys from the Koch empire.
Koch brothers.
Yeah.
And, you know, California, in order to build
back better, the state has determined that you
need to use green lumber.
And green lumber means it has not been
dried.
Yeah.
And there's not.
You can't use green lumber.
This is this is exactly what they're saying.
They have to use green lumber.
And the Koch industries does have one green
lumber outfit.
But, you know, that's not going to rebuild
all of California.
The fact that they're even talking about cap
and trade is a way to solve the
problem.
Cap and trade solves nothing.
It just it just moves.
It gives the excuse, well, we've already traded
for, you know, someplace else.
And so we're good to go.
It's beyond me.
You play the second half.
Yeah.
Let's play this.
No, it's terrible.
Well, allow me to introduce theft, theft to
the show.
Blatant theft.
Either that or you're sleeping with someone you
shouldn't be sleeping with.
He definitely delivered.
Yeah.
And who were you or anyone else to
question the inherent genius of every impulsive blurt
of the 70 whatever year old god king
who rules without restraint.
Now, how did you learn?
How did she come up with blurt?
She didn't come up with it.
She stole something that was she didn't even
steal anything.
She doesn't do anything.
Blatant theft.
One of her producers, one of the writer
producers listens to us.
Probably hate listens.
And they said, you know, that's a pretty
good term.
This is you start using it.
We're steel.
We're hosting.
We're a hate.
Listen, we're a hate.
Listen for someone from the Rachel matters.
Well, seeing as that they had to fire
everybody who knows what's left there.
So we get some international news.
I can do revoking immigration.
Paroles is interesting.
Yes.
Let's do that for a second.
That is interesting.
Hundreds of thousands of immigrants from Caribbean and
Latin American countries who came to the United
States legally may soon face deportation.
Wow.
Department of Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem said
the Trump administration will revoke legal protections for
more than half a million Cubans, Haitians, Nicaraguans
and Venezuelans.
The administration claims there's been broad abuse of
humanitarian parole.
That's the program that allows people from countries
experiencing political instability to temporarily live and work
in the United States.
Wow.
Where did this come from?
Empathy.
That came from PBS.
The thing is, it's called temporary protective status.
Temporary.
And they just.
Oh, that was here.
Here's a report that actually kind of tells
us what's actually happening.
Late Friday, the Trump administration announced it was
revoking the legal status of more than half
a million immigrants from Cuba, Haiti, Nicaragua and
Venezuela who came to the U.S. legally
under a parole status.
The Biden era program known as CHNV allowed
the immigrants to live in the U.S.
through sponsorships by U.S. citizens and permanent
residents.
In the next 30 days, there were permits
and deportation protections will be lapsed and terminated
by the Department of Homeland Security, which is
warning that if these people do not voluntarily
depart the country, John, they will be found,
arrested and deported from the country.
It comes as Friday federal judge James Bolsberg
rebuked the Trump administration for ignoring his order
to turn planes around mid-flight, carrying Venezuelan
migrants to a high security detention facility in
El Salvador.
Bolsberg asked that Justice Department attorney, did you
not understand and accused the administration of disrespecting
the court, ignoring orders and missing his deadlines.
The president has firmly stood by his decision
and blasted the judge.
We have bad people.
We don't want them in our country.
We can't let a judge say that he
wants him.
He didn't run for president.
He didn't get much more than 80 million
votes.
And we just can't let that happen.
The administration claims all the men who were
deported are gang members, despite some having no
criminal history and given no due process.
The deportees are being held in one of
the most notorious prisons in the world.
This is a very interesting judicial move by
the Trump administration.
Well, where'd that clip come from?
That came from CBS.
The reason I ask is because they don't
know anything about these people that were shipped
out of the country to the El Salvadorian
prison.
So how would they say that many of
them have no criminal records?
They've never revealed this.
No, they revealed one.
I don't think I clipped it.
There was one guy who apparently was a
baseball player.
I thought it was the barber guy.
No, well, they really don't have any examples.
And what you would expect, certainly from CBS,
but even from PBS, is you'd have crying
family members like they rousted him, they deported
him.
But I don't see any evidence of that.
But this is a very smart move by
the Trump administration because you can just say,
oh, I'm just revoking your TPS.
And doesn't mean he's going to go send
people back to Haiti right away.
He can, or the administration can, or a
partner, Kristi Noem, oh, didn't she shoot her
dog?
You got to be careful of her.
But this is a way for them to
get around the judge's orders and say, well,
it's TPS.
So I can just revoke that and I
have every legal right to send people back.
I think it's a smart judicial move.
And I don't think he's going to be
sending people back to Haiti.
I don't think you can even land a
plane there anymore.
That's not true.
It's not good.
Well, then there's the Venezuelan.
I get the Venezuelan clip, which is kind
of a follow up to those oldest thoughts.
Venezuela's government says beginning tomorrow it will again
accept flights of its citizens deported from the
US.
Repatriation flights have been halted by Venezuela's leader.
The Trump administration had threatened to slap more
sanctions on the country if the flights did
not resume.
And PR's Carrie Khan reports.
The president of Venezuela's National Assembly, Jorge Rodriguez,
announced the resumption of flights in a statement
on Instagram.
Rodriguez, who has been negotiating with the U
.S., stated migration is not a crime and
Venezuela will not rest until it secures the
return of all those who require it.
A week ago, the U.S. sent more
than 200 Venezuelan migrants to El Salvador, claiming
most were members of a violent gang.
President Maduro says the deportations are a kidnapping
and demands the migrants return.
Maduro's capitulation on accepting repatriation flights come as
Trump is considering extending the Chevron oil company's
license to operate in Venezuela, which provides vital
revenue for the country.
Yeah, they're going to have to do that.
We're running out of oil.
Our gas to oil ratio in the United
States is becoming more gas than oil.
I have oil.
They're trying to shut down refineries.
Mm hmm.
And I know out here they're trying to
Chevron's thinking about closing the Richmond refinery and
at some point in the future.
And there's other refining issues that are problematic.
We're not getting the crude that we want.
We're not drilling more.
I mean, it's that peak.
As far as I can tell, they're drilling
as much as they can.
We're using a lot of oil.
But this little Chevron gotcha at the end
of this thing was kind of interesting to
me.
Maduro, what quid pro quo took place with,
you know, letting Chevron go in there and
make money for Venezuela.
You have to pay for the oil and
I get it for free.
I will get the details from the oil
baron on what that's about.
None of those guys like Chevron.
They don't like any of them.
Yes, it was indeed.
Yersei Reyes Barrios had been renditioned to El
Salvador, but no crying family yet.
So, you know, they'll find somebody.
You can hire an actor.
I have an update on the Pope prior
to being discharged.
Pope Francis is set to appear in public
today for the first time since his hospital
stay for double pneumonia.
The Vatican announced the Holy Father will bless
the faithful from his 10th floor suite at
the hospital.
His first live appearance since being admitted last
month.
The Holy Father, at the time of his
admission to Gemelli Hospital, presented an acute respiratory
failure.
He is returning to his residence Santa Marta
at the Vatican.
Catholics around the world have rejoiced, from Rome
to his native Argentina.
Up until today, this picture of Francis celebrating
Mass at a small chapel inside Gemelli Hospital
was the most recent image of the pontiff.
And this recorded message.
Thanking for prayers was the last time we'd
heard from Pope Francis.
This hospitalization was marked by a rollercoaster of
setbacks, including respiratory crises, mild kidney failure and
several coughing fits.
The road to recovery will be a long
one.
The medical director at Gemelli Hospital said during
his stay, Francis twice presented critical episodes during
which his life was in danger.
The Holy Father was never intubated and he
always remained alert and oriented.
Doctors say the Pope will need continued speech
therapy after prolonged use of high-flow oxygen
and will need at least two months of
rest and rehabilitation after he returns to the
Vatican.
That doesn't sound very good.
Two months of speech therapy?
Yeah, that's odd.
That's bad.
I have one clip before we go to
break.
Oh, can I request one?
Which one?
The Voice of America.
Yeah, that's the clip I want to play.
This is very interesting, from the BBC World
Service.
Oh, wait a minute, everybody.
It's the BBC World Service, live from London.
Radio Free Europe and Radio Liberty were founded
during the Cold War, before they later merged.
The organisation has been funded by the US
Congress to promote democratic values.
It provides news to millions of users in
23 countries where a free press is either
banned by authoritarian governments or weak.
Prime Minister Feeler said he knew what Radio
Free Europe meant, having listened when young during
communist times.
His government is looking to build a coalition
of European nations to fund it, or perhaps
even buy it outright.
They're going to buy it!
Is it for sale?
I guess it would be, that's what Trump
will sell it.
That's fantastic.
Come on, people, these people have the internet.
They've got smartphones everywhere.
They don't need to listen to me.
It would be a sucker's bet, that's for
sure.
Yeah, it's up for sale, sure, here you
go.
Maybe we could make some of that, give
up some of that ham radio spectrum, let
them broadcast over there on 20 metres.
Oh, man.
Yeah.
What do you think you could charge for
it?
You want to buy it?
It's going to be overpriced, whatever it is.
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We're contemplating our next end of show mix,
and I just want to say, donate to
Know Agenda and do the code DEVORAH.ORG.
Smash the like.
For every four orders of curry fries, you
get one free flag.
This is Danny.
First time at a meetup.
Cool bunch of dudes.
Looking forward to the triple vinyl box set
whenever that comes out.
This is Greg.
I'm a douchebag, but I'll make sure this
sounds good.
Coming to RS-664, we had some great
curry fries here.
This is Dirty Jersey Whore.
Spoiler alert, I'm not from Jersey, and I'm
not a female.
In the morning.
Hey, guys.
It's Mike from the Altish Swamp meetup trying
to get away from the spooks here in
Texas.
What's up, everybody?
It is Sir Brian with an I, so
you know it is a party, and Dirty
Jersey Whore is touching me.
In the morning.
And once again, they forgot to add the
server.
Add your servers to these meetup reports, people.
Servers like it, and servers are good.
Tip your server and tip them well.
We have a meetup taking place today.
Underway as we speak, the Dem Ides of
March Indy No Agenda meetup.
They always do it on a show day,
during the show itself, which is always entertaining
to me.
So you can still catch them, because they'll
be going on until well after dinner.
St. Joseph Brewery and Public House in Indianapolis,
Indiana.
That is Dame Maria, Sir Mark, who hosts
those, and I'm sure we'll get an excellent
meetup report from them.
And also, coming up in just an hour
or so, the North Georgia Monthly Meetup at
Cherry Street Brewing in Alpharetta, Georgia.
Is this the fourth anniversary?
I think so.
Many more meetups to come.
Coming up the 29th, Safe in the Netherlands.
Let me see if we have any other
foreign places.
Eagle, Idaho.
Might as well be foreign.
Light in the Netherlands coming up on April
17th.
Yes, the Lowlands meetup people are doing a
great job, and you can join them.
You can join many of the meetups that
take place all over Gitmo Nation by going
to noagendameetups.com.
You can search by calendar.
You can search by place.
And, of course, you can add one yourself
because if you can't find one near you,
I suggest you start one yourself.
It's easy and always a party.
Always like a party.
And now it's time for the phony baloney
ISOs that John the Cheater, John C.
Dvorak, where the C stands for I cheat,
has created some AI ISOs.
I, of course, continue to find the real
deal, and I think I might have a
shot at beating you today.
Well, you might because I don't have one
AI ISO despite your condemnation.
Well, that remains to be seen.
I want to hear yours.
These are all real.
This is the reason I don't do these
anymore because they stink.
It's hard.
It's hard.
No, it's just because it's not hard.
It's not hard.
You just clip something you already clipped.
There's no big deal.
Let's listen to mine.
Okay.
I got is what?
It is what it is.
Joining.
Thank you so much for joining us.
And thank you.
Thank you.
Well, I think I can do better with
real ISOs.
Here we go.
These guys are good at what they do.
I think that already beats you.
Yeah, I think that's a good one.
You should be outraged.
I kind of like that.
That's no good.
I think this is the winner.
This podcast is for the birds.
These guys are good at what they do.
I think that's the one.
That's the one.
That's the one.
All right.
You got to back ass word.
Back ass word?
Yeah.
You mean I did a good job?
You could just say good job.
Well, for someone who did a back ass
word.
Oh, yeah.
All right, everybody.
Hey, it's time that everyone's been waiting for.
It's John's tip of the day.
Okay.
So this is a product that comes out.
I believe this is made in China because
it says that on the package.
And everyone I've seen, there's a bunch of
these.
Designed in the USA, made in China.
And they're all exactly the same.
You can go look them up.
But I recommend people buy one of these.
The brands are different.
This is a brand called Prepared Hero.
It could be any other brand.
They all look identical.
They have the same functionality.
And these are fire blankets.
Fire blankets?
40 inch by 40 inch fire blankets.
They're all made in China.
They're made out of fiberglass.
And you should have one in the kitchen
hanging somewhere.
And you just.
It's all the same.
You can look them up.
They have two black tabs hanging out of
a red package.
You pull the black tags.
That's where it should be hanging up.
You pull the black tags out.
Brings out the fire blanket.
You throw it on the stove.
Puts out the fire immediately.
Without using a fire extinguisher.
Which makes a mess.
Yes.
That is a good tip.
I once had a.
When I was back at the apartment.
When I was single.
Also known as the penitentiary.
I had a kitchen fire.
And I wound up extinguishing it with flour.
And while that was good.
I then tried to vacuum up the flour.
And that ruined my Dyson vacuum cleaner.
And it was a mess.
You could find flour for months.
Yes.
Fire blanket.
And how big are they?
These fire blankets?
40 inch by 40 inch.
Just enough to cover the stove.
Wow.
That's a good tip.
You get a grease fire.
You throw the fire blanket on top.
Puts the fire out almost immediately.
I think that's.
That's very good.
Doesn't make a mess.
Can you also use it for your Tesla?
If your Tesla catches on fire?
You could.
Well, I wouldn't help.
But you could.
All right.
There you go.
Go to tipoftheday.net.
Noagendafund.com.
For John C.
Dvorak's tip of the day.
Now, I'm going to get me a couple
of those fire blankets.
That is a very good idea.
In some cases, they sell them by two.
Sometimes you can get a five pack.
I have just the one.
I've never had a kitchen fire.
A five pack.
Well, I've only had the one kitchen fire.
But that's a great idea.
That is a very useful tip of the
day.
Aren't you glad you stayed to listen to
John C.
Dvorak's.
And they're cheap.
They're like nine or ten bucks.
From China.
What could go wrong?
Hey, coming up at the end of the
show here, we have some end of show
mixes.
We have the existential crisis from Matty J.
Which, believe it or not, is a repeat.
But it's just as good six years later.
We have, oh yes, the coveted arousal mix
that Fletcher put together.
And brand new from Sir Michael Anthony, the
Trump anti-war in 24.
You do not want to miss those.
Also, stay tuned for the next program on
your No Agenda stream or in your modern
podcast app.
It's unrelenting.
That is the podcast with Darren O'Neill
and Gene Neftuliaev, our Russian spy.
And I am coming to you from the
heart of the Texas Hill Country, right here
in Fredericksburg, where we get middle-aged ladies
sloshed by expensive, schlocky clothing.
In the morning, everybody, I'm Adam Curry.
And I'm from Northern Silicon Valley, where I
remain.
I'm John C.
Dvorak.
Remember us at noagenda-donations.com.
Until Thursday, adios, mofos, a-hooey-hooey, and
such.
Eggs, eggs, eggs.
There's nothing embarrassing about a hen laying an
egg.
And you'd better lay one or it's your
neck.
I, uh, give them the old needle once
in a while.
I love eggs.
Egg prices are continuing to soar.
The cost of eggs has been soaring across
the country.
High cost of eggs.
So what's behind eggflation?
Pathogenic avian influenza, more commonly known as bird
flu.
The worst bird flu outbreak in years that
has just swept through the country.
Tens of millions of birds have died or
been slaughtered.
Bird flu has reduced the egg-laying hen
population by more than 40 million.
40 million, that's astounding to think about that.
Looks like eggs are the new toilet paper.
It's egg-streamly bad news.
You might want to consider alternatives.
This is an egg replacement item.
These chickens that were laying eggs, those are
mature hens, right?
So we don't get a mature hen overnight.
It takes some time for a chick who
hatches out of an egg to be free.
This could be lasting us into the summer.
Can I offer you a nice egg in
this trying time?
Once it was reluctantly aroused.
It was hard to get it aroused, and
it is hard to get it aroused.
But we got it aroused.
Ooh.
We got it aroused.
And I and everyone else around the country
is doing this.
It was hard to get it aroused.
Just keep it up.
And it is hard to get it aroused.
You know, I mean, hey, come on.
We got it aroused.
Ooh.
You know, it's going to get even bigger
now.
Ooh.
Look how long it is.
It was hard to get it aroused.
Ooh.
I'll give you the gist of it.
Quick, get some white stuff, somebody.
Help me out here.
Ooh.
All cash, baby.
I'm getting too excited about this.
Sit, stay, and come.
We got it aroused.
Ooh.
The guy is jizzing all over himself.
Get out of the car.
Because they wouldn't even think I would even
think this.
And everyone is like, oh, right.
Cool.
Yeah.
All right.
We got it aroused.
It was hard to get it aroused.
And it is hard to get it aroused.
Ooh.
Totally misquoted.
It was mediocre.
Totally misquoted.
They were asked to change it, and they
wouldn't do that.
Hold on.
Stop a second.
This is a crisis.
This is all amateur hour.
This is all stuff done in the control
room or done by somebody who is not
a good guy and done on purpose.
How stupid have we been?
And, of course, people got all kinds of
fun clips.
How stupid have we been?
People making songs from that.
I don't want to see wars.
I think it's so horrible, so unnecessary, so
costly in terms of lives and money and
that order.
I think it's just a failed mentality.
It's crazy.
You can sell problems over a telephone and
say they start dropping bombs.
I see recently they're dropping bombs all over
Yemen.
You don't have to do that.
You can talk in such a way where
they respect you and they listen to you.
And, you know, the number of lives we're
talking about is far greater than the numbers
that you hear.
When they blow up a town, when they
blow up these buildings, I mean, these are
big, powerful buildings.
They come tumbling down to the ground, and
they say nobody was injured.
A lot of people were killed.
And the numbers are a lot different than
you think.
You will see that.
You will see that happening.
When those numbers really get announced, you're going
to see it's much worse.
The whole world is on fire.
Adios, mofo.
These guys are good at what they do.