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Most women kill their husbands by poisoning them.
Adam Curry, John C.
Devorah.
It's Sunday, April 6th, 2025.
This is your award-winning Gilmore Nation media
assassination episode 1753.
This is no agenda.
Everything's crushing!
And we're still broadcasting live from the heart
of the Texas Hill Country.
Here in FEMA Region No.
6 in the morning, everybody.
I'm Adam Curry.
And from Northern Silicon Valley, where I understand
the Russians are making exploding sex toys.
I'm John C.
Devorah.
It's Craig Vaughn and Buzzkill.
Wait a minute.
I thought that was the Israelis who made
exploding sex toys.
Well, the Russians apparently are making exploding dildos.
Oh, that could be annoying.
It's a day wrecker.
It could be rather annoying.
Where did you get this tidbit from?
Some story floating around.
Oh, okay.
It's on a real news site.
It's on a real news site.
Okay, that makes nothing but sense.
It's on the Internet.
It must be true.
It must be true.
Hey, man, happy birthday.
One day after the fact.
Well, why thank you.
And did everyone come by and celebrate?
A lot of people did.
Really?
More than just the family?
No, I'm talking about the meet-up.
Oh, yeah.
How was that?
That must have been fantastic.
How many people were there?
I don't know.
They were scattered all over the place.
I'll tell you this.
The pizza people, the Violeta Pizza.
Yeah, that's where it was.
And Violet, of course, is the trap baby
that was notorious.
Nice.
They make a fabulous pizza.
With the pineapple?
You know, they didn't bring a pineapple one
out, which disappointed me.
Actually, I don't even know if they have
pineapple ones.
But it doesn't matter.
Their pizzas, it's just everything you'd want in
a pizza.
The crust is perfect.
The sauce is terrific.
They use the real cheeses.
And there's a big line.
This is supposedly their opening.
It's their hard opening.
And considering that no one's heard of this,
the new one is the new place.
They bought some property in a part of
Oakland that was industrial.
And there was a line of people waiting
to buy pizza as I left the meet
-up.
It must have been 20 people that were
waiting patiently in line.
It's astonishing.
That kind of reminds me of the grilled
cheese place back in the day.
The place across the street from Meteo?
Yeah, remember that?
The grilled cheese place.
All they made was grilled cheese, and they
were packed.
And I think we predicted the mac and
cheese, the grilled cheese, the avocado toast.
We predicted a lot of things, even without
saying, I predict something.
In fact, one of our producers sent me
this.
This is from 2021.
I could not believe when I heard this.
The globalists jumped on the opportunity to be
anti-racist and do photo ops, being nice
to poor black people, but the general public
is still kind of racist here.
Go figure.
There are reports and video evidence of Haitians
catching and eating family cats and dogs, but
it isn't too common.
Hey, we need this meme over here.
Dude, if people knew that Haitians were eating
dogs, all of Wokistan would be defending the
border.
Yep.
We need to get this.
This needs to come out.
Stop eating our dogs, you Haitians.
They're eating the dogs.
Can you believe we had that actual conversation?
Maybe that's where Trump got it.
Possible, possible.
You never know.
So amidst, and of course, we're going to
talk about terror.
I have stuff from the Sunday.
Terrorists.
I have stuff from the Sunday shows.
I have tons of terrorist stuff too.
But from this morning, from the Sunday show?
Brand new?
No, not from the Sunday show.
Caught off the press?
You always have the advantage on that one.
So before we do that, though, I thought
it was rather interesting and didn't, at least
I didn't see, get the coverage about the
Russian envoy being in D.C. Did you
get any of that?
No.
So Kirill Dmitriev, Dmitriev.
Easy for you to say.
It's not easy for me to say, was
in D.C. And I could not find
anything except snippets of an interview he did
on Fox with Bret Baier, which I thought
was, you know, I had like WION.
I had Africa News did something on it.
No, no.
Everyone was like, oh.
It wasn't on CBS.
No.
Well, I pulled a couple of clips.
I thought it was white, white, it was
white winter swing.
It was very interesting.
And right off the bat, this Kirill dude
says, you know, Trump's done some pretty good
stuff, like stopping World War III.
President Trump administration has made tremendous progress.
There was no dialogue with Russia and Biden.
What?
Obviously, that's why it wasn't played.
Right off the top.
Progress?
No, we can't have that.
That's no good.
No, that's not anti-Trump enough.
Trump administration has made tremendous progress.
There was no dialogue with Russia in Biden
administration for the last three years.
There was no trying to understand Russian position.
There was no real solutions that could have
been successful.
And what President Trump team has done, they
understood what the solution space may be.
And they achieved the first de-escalation ever
in the conflict, which is stopping hits on
energy infrastructure between Russia and Ukraine.
So we are having good discussions.
Our diplomatic people are also discussing possible outcomes.
But there is no question that President Trump
team not only stopped World War III from
happening, but also had already achieved sizable progress
on Ukraine resolution.
What?
Yeah, you're right.
No wonder.
No, we can't have that.
We can't be talking about good stuff like
that.
And this kind of leading into the tariffs
and sanctions, I thought this was fascinating.
Russia is not asking for lifting of sanctions.
Because if you look at our GDP growth,
it's actually 4% last year versus just
1% in Europe.
If you look at our debt to GDP,
it's 18% versus 100% in Europe.
So I think what we see is that
actually U.S. companies lost around $300 billion
of foregone profit from withdrawing from Russia.
So I think sanctions may be lifted when
U.S. companies want to go back, want
to take advantage of business opportunities in Russia.
But right now, Russia is not making any
preconditions, not asking for specific sanction relief.
This is fantastic.
The Russians are like, hey, man, you guys
can come in.
You can make $300 billion more.
You can buy back your McDonald's.
Well, as if they all went away, we
know that a lot of them were faking
it.
Yeah, they're fake.
And the last clip here is about another
stunner about NATO and the final resolutions for
Ukraine.
But I think Ukraine joining NATO, as our
president said, is not at all possible.
And that I think has been widely accepted,
including by Trump administration.
You know, some security guarantees in some form
may be acceptable.
And we can do so many great things
together in Arctic.
We can do deals in rare earths and
other minerals.
We can do lots of cooperation in LNG
and other areas.
So I think one of the big issues
between us, we never had really lots of
economic cooperation.
We believe that economic cooperation will allow us
to also solve any political issues.
Man, they're going to have to line up
behind Canada.
Everybody wants to give us rare earth.
It's amazing.
All of a sudden.
It's amazing.
It was like, well, tariffs are no good.
We're going to get you.
But hey, would you like some rare earth?
Yeah.
And, you know, now he can't be in
NATO over there in Ukraine, but security, some
security forces are OK.
This is amazing.
More amazing, of course, that the M5M has,
except for Fox, I'll give them a pass
on that, have just not covered it.
And I don't even know, this guy may
just be some jimok who lives in Brooklyn
and speaks Russian for all I know.
I've never heard of him.
I've never heard of him.
They have good bookers on that show.
I don't know this guy.
As a contrast, I want to play these
clips.
All right.
This is the this is a contrast of
what you just played, because that's like, you
know, good news kind of.
You can't have good news.
This is not cool.
You can't have good news.
So let's go to CBS and look at
their discussion of the NSA head being fired.
Oh, no.
Oh, no.
OK.
The NSA.
You have two here.
You have.
Yeah, the one that's the one that says
two in it is the second.
Oh, oh, that's a two.
OK.
We got it.
Well, the general in charge of the National
Security Agency and U.S. Cyber Command is
the latest to be fired in a purge
of national security officials.
Margaret Brennan has the details.
President Trump's firing of the top two leaders
of the powerful National Security Agency, Cyber Command
General Timothy Hawk and Deputy Wendy Noble, and
the dismissal of at least six White House
National Security Council aides, followed an extraordinary Oval
Office meeting Wednesday between President Trump and far
right activist Laura Loomer.
CBS News has learned that Loomer, who has
entertained 9-11 conspiracy theories, has a history
of anti-Muslim, anti-immigrant social media posts,
privately and publicly accused the officials of subverting
Trump's agenda and being disloyal.
President Trump said he did discuss personnel with
Loomer.
Chris Krebs, a CBS News consultant, was a
top cybersecurity official during the first Trump administration.
So Laura Loomer, this far right activist, said
Hawk was fired because he was, quote, disloyal
to President Trump.
What do you make of that?
He's exactly the kind of leader I think
we need in that role.
It is surprising.
I think it is a bit of a
setback for us as we see China, as
we see Russia and Iran getting more and
more aggressive in cyberspace to move out one
of our most accomplished, distinguished cyber warriors.
Now, I saw the story come across the
transom.
I'm glad you got these clips because my
initial, I'll be honest, my initial response, Laura
Loomer, what is she doing?
Someone's been loomered.
I mean, what was going on there?
A couple of things.
The note.
Why don't they get Laura Loomer and ask
her a couple of questions?
They might want to, you know, ask her
what's she talking about, about this guy being
disloyal.
Did they?
They don't interview her.
They don't talk to her.
They talk to this guy, Krebs, who they
announced as...
This is CBS's duplicitousness, by the way.
This is a great example of very poor
journalism.
And I would blame everybody, Dickinson and Brennan,
the rest of them, for doing this.
This Krebs guy, he was Trump's guy.
He was Trump's security guy, you know, cyber
security guy.
He was fired by Trump, which you'd think
they would mention because it does give you
a little insight into what he's bitching about.
Because he was one of the guys fired
by Trump, so you can't take him too
seriously.
You mean previously, before he was NSA, or
now?
No, I'm talking about the guy doing the...
that she's talking to.
Oh, okay.
The guy who she's using as evidence of
this being a big blunder.
Got it.
This Krebs guy.
He was fired by Trump.
He did work for Trump.
And then right after the election in 2019,
right after the election before, you know, where
Trump thought it was a fake bad election
for the 2020 election.
This guy was...
he decided between the time of the election
and the inauguration of Biden, he, as the
cyber security guy, started a blog which just
documented every reason in the world why this
couldn't have been a rigged election.
He should have done a substack.
Blogs get no traction.
Well, whatever.
He did something.
It was government.
It was on government dime.
Huh.
And so Trump fired him.
Now, was he at CISA?
Was it?
No, it was Homeland Security.
Yes.
No, CISA.
CISA?
Hmm.
So no, so Trump fired him.
So now he's the expert.
So he's a guy with no grudge and
he's on with Margaret Brown.
Are you telling me that CBS is not
doing good journalism?
And so they're actually getting worse, worse and
worse.
Meanwhile, we talk about this hog guy, Hawk,
as she calls him, H-A-U-G
-H was the head of NSA.
This guy is interesting in a couple of
ways.
He's like he has three master's degrees in
cyber security stuff.
But it's like from the Naval postgraduate school,
from the Army school, this and that.
Stop, stop, stop, stop, stop, stop, stop, stop,
stop.
New promotion.
No agenda.
Masters of security stuff.
Yes.
I like it.
I like it a lot.
Well, so the PhD is the only thing
that works.
So this guy has three master's degrees and
he has it.
So you look at him, he looks like
kind of a government guy.
But if you look at him or you
look at his background, he has.
Now, when you think of somebody with a
bronze star.
Yeah.
What does that imply?
You did.
Yeah.
You did something courageous.
You probably did something in combat.
Yeah.
Yes.
Courageous in combat.
Yes.
This guy, it appears, has never been in
combat.
He has a bronze star.
And if you try to research the bronze
star, which I did, you can't find out
why he got this bronze star.
And he apparently got the bronze star while
he was in Florida.
He rebooted a server.
He got the bronze star.
All I can figure out is he got
the bronze star somehow in Florida.
And I guess he was doing something remotely.
I don't know.
The guy is suspicious.
And so they bring this.
They never interview Loomer about any of this.
They do interview Trump.
I had to cut that out because it
was on the airplane.
You couldn't hear it.
And so they bring this Krebs guy on
to just straighten this out.
And this is just garbage.
So let's listen to the second half.
This went right to the Oval Office, the
conversation about these National Security Council officials.
There's a short circuit happening here in the
traditional process.
There's a different kind of influence that is
informing personnel processes and decisions.
And I think that's, in part, what's just
so unusual about the moment.
We have really, really capable people in leadership
positions that I think are serving the Constitution
well.
But, unfortunately, their time's up in their jobs.
And Margaret Brennan joins us now from Washington.
Margaret, if you could take us through the
scope of what the NSA does and why
this is such a big deal today.
Well, Maurice, the NSA is arguably the most
powerful intelligence collection agency this country has because
they vacuum up information through signals, intelligence intercepts.
Vacuum up information.
That's actually a very accurate description of what
they do.
Yeah, it is very accurate.
Vacuum it up.
And the thing is, it's interesting is that
if you listen to her exposition here, she
kind of has to clarify things with a
little afterthought you may or may not catch.
See, this country has because they vacuum up
information through signals, intelligence intercepts, through cyber collection,
through wiretaps.
And they do that overseas.
They then work hand in glove with the
military's cyber command.
Now, General Hawk is a four-star general.
He was unanimously confirmed by Congress to that
job.
And he swore an oath of allegiance to
the U.S. Constitution no matter who is
president.
His accuser, Laura Loomer, says his fault is
working for the last president.
Margaret, and you're hearing there might be more
changes in store perhaps for this important agency?
Yes, John, we are.
Actually, CBS has learned that President Trump is
considering splitting off the NSA from the military.
Other presidents have also considered this and then
ruled it out.
Doing so, splitting it off, would allow for
President Trump to put a political ally at
the helm.
General Hawk opposed it.
What did she say at the end?
Would prevent political ally at the helm?
I didn't quite understand what she was saying.
She said that splitting it off.
Now, this is the logic of this.
Now, this is the part that I thought
was interesting.
And by the way, the other part I
was mentioning earlier is when she said they
wiretap.
Yeah.
They do this overseas.
She added that in real quick.
They do overseas.
They don't do wiretaps here like Snowden implies.
No, not at Trump Tower at all.
No, no, no, it's not happening.
So, she says that by splitting the NSA
off from the military, it allows Trump to
put in a loyalist.
But Trump's going to put in somebody anyway.
Whether they're connected to the military or not,
why wouldn't he put in a loyalist?
In other words, I don't get the –
what is the – do they have to
split NSA off from the military so he
can put in a loyalist?
Why can't they just put in a loyalist
without splitting it off?
It doesn't make any sense at all.
She makes it sound like some conspiracy is
going on.
This is just bad reporting.
Well, there probably is a possible conspiracy opportunity
if you have NSA part of the military.
Like separate those two.
She just talked about all that with the
– hand in glove with the DOD.
Yeah, you want to keep that close to
the vest.
Keep your friends close and your enemies closer.
Interesting.
So, this was an example of the opposite
of like – let's talk about the envoy
from Russia trying to create peace.
Heaven forbid.
Let's just talk about Trump.
Well, I have – I'll do two.
These are rather short series of the Sunday
morning shows.
Thank you, Steve Jones.
Howard Lutnick, our commerce secretary, was on Face
the Nation.
And it was – he made a little
– Is Lutnick the – oh, yeah, he's
commerce.
Yeah, he's commerce, yeah.
He made a little boo-boo, but first
let's get into the intro.
We see about 60% of Americans have
money in the stock market, which means that
retirees could be just as concerned as hedge
fund managers.
Hold on a second.
Let's start with that premise.
60% of Americans have money in the
stock market mostly via 401ks.
Yes.
It's not like they're investors.
And by the way, I wonder if it's
60% that have 401ks.
Retirement funds, yeah.
Yeah, that's what they're trying to include.
Because active investors is no way that high.
OK.
Did you expect this level of shock in
the financial markets?
Shock?
Shock?
Well, you've got to realize this is a
national security issue.
I mean we don't make medicine in this
country anymore.
We don't make ships.
We don't have enough steel and aluminum to
fight a battle.
Right?
All our semiconductors are made overseas.
So every button we press when we try
to start our car or even use our
microwave.
These are all semiconductors.
They're all made elsewhere.
Buttons now, semiconductors.
But OK, I digress.
I like the buttons.
The buttons.
Start to protect ourselves.
And we've got to stop having all the
countries of the world ripping us off.
We have a 1.2 trillion dollar trade
deficit.
And the rest of the world has a
surplus with us.
They're earning our money.
They're taking our money.
And Donald Trump has seen this.
And he's going to stop it.
So it is going to be a big
change.
Of course it's going to be a big
change.
But the rest of the world has been
ripping us off for all these many years.
Donald Trump has seen it.
He's spoken about it.
I understand that.
And he's just not going to take it
anymore.
And that's his model.
So, actually, it's Hasser.
He did the whoops.
You'll get to that later.
But this guy likes saying ripped off a
lot.
And where does he come from, Ludnick?
He comes from, is he a hedge fund
guy?
Or what is he?
I think he's a hedge fund guy.
We can look him up.
But who is this that's interviewing him?
I have no idea.
Sounds like Brennan.
Oh, it could be.
It's Face the Nation.
That would be her.
OK.
More getting ripped off.
She's bad, by the way.
She's bad news, this woman.
That's her job.
She's bad news lady.
And that was abundantly clear during the presidential
campaign, how much the president truly believes in
tariffs and putting them at the center of
his economic policy.
But you saw absolute panic in the global
market.
Oh, I'm sorry.
Cantor Fitzgerald, of course.
How could I forget?
He's the guy that didn't go to work
on 9-11.
Sorry to put it that way.
Did you expect that?
Or were you surprised?
No, I think the point is, you need
to reset the power of the United States
of America and reset it against all our
allies and our enemies alike.
The idea that all the countries of the
world can run trade surpluses with America and
buy our things with us.
Remember, 1.2 trillion dollars.
In 1980, we were a net investor, meaning
we owned more of the rest of the
world than they owned of us.
It's a different world.
It's a different market.
Now they own 18 trillion dollars of us
net.
So that means every year when we run
a 1.2 trillion dollar deficit, the rest
of the world buys 1.2 trillion dollars
of America.
And it goes up and up and up.
And eventually, we're not going to own America.
And we are going to be owned by
the rest of the world.
Imagine if we had a war and we
can't build a ship.
We can't fly a plane.
We can't build our own planes.
We don't have our own semiconductors.
This is what the president is here to
fix for America.
It's in his hands, and he wants to
fix America.
This is his chance to fix America.
We need him to fix it for our
children and our grandchildren.
Understood.
But my 401K here at CBS is going
down.
I hate looking at these numbers all day
long.
And then this was really quite low.
Let's just stop for a second.
What Lutnick said there is kind of important.
It's very important.
And if the media was on board, this
wouldn't be an issue at all.
But they're not.
They're fighting it.
They really want America to become a weakened
state that could be just easily taken over
by anyone with a military because we're going
to have nothing except soldiers with gear that
is purchased overseas.
And we still have the defense industry we
have, which really only makes missiles and fighter
jets.
We don't make tanks anymore.
But not with our own steel.
No, no, problem.
There's a lot of problems here in terms
of strategic positioning.
And the media is just not helping.
No, no, of course not.
They want ratings.
They don't really care if they're helping or
not.
They're not interested.
They're interested in their own bread and butter.
It makes total sense, just like us.
That's why we're kowtowing.
We don't have ratings.
We don't need ratings.
We don't use ratings.
We're not part of that system.
No, we're not part of downloads either, podcast
industrial complex.
Anyway, so it was understandable that Saturday Night
Live made a joke about the McDonald Island,
you know, penguins.
It was understandable.
But for CBS to not even think for
two seconds about what that's really about was
just baffling.
When we saw the president stand in the
Rose Garden holding up that chart that you
helped make, that wasn't actually tariffs.
That was actually confusing to investors because it
was some kind of other formula, and the
countries themselves- Did you see the formula?
Yeah, I think I did.
It looked like the formula for Bitcoin mining.
Oh, that formula that was up there, yeah.
It was very interesting.
I was like, okay.
And the countries themselves seemed kind of random.
Like, why are the herd in McDonald Islands,
which don't export to the United States and
are quite literally inhabited by penguins, why do
they face a 10% tariffs?
Did you use AI to generate this?
I mean, can you believe this question?
It's like, use AI and ask the question.
You would come up with an answer.
You wouldn't ask this ridiculous question.
I just couldn't believe that came from CBS
first generation.
No.
No, the idea, look, the idea is-
Walk your thing on the list.
Because the idea, what happens is if you
leave anything off the list, the countries that
try to basically arbitrage America go through those
countries to us.
And now what he's trying to say is,
I'm going to fix the trade deficit of
the United States of America.
It's a national security issue.
We need to make medicine.
We need to make semiconductors.
We need to make ships.
She's not listening.
We need to have steel and aluminum.
Come on.
We need the greatness of America to actually
be built in America.
And he's tired of getting ripped off by
the rest of the world.
Okay, but just to be clear, April 9th,
the so-called retaliatory tariffs- So-called,
so-called.
To actually be built in America, and he's
tired of getting ripped off by the rest
of the world.
Okay, but just to be clear, April 9th,
the so-called retaliatory tariffs, the reciprocal tariffs,
I should say.
Are those coming?
Or are they open to negotiation?
The tariffs are coming.
He announced it, and he wasn't kidding.
The tariffs are coming.
Of course they are.
Okay.
She is not listening.
I wonder if her producer is just yelling
in her ear.
You know, it's like- Ask him about
the tariffs.
Are they coming April 9th?
I've noticed this before, that she doesn't listen
very well.
She did it with Marco Rubio.
She didn't listen to him.
Vance, J.D. Vance, was nailed or two
because she wasn't listening.
She doesn't listen.
And it's possible that she's one of those
people.
There are people that are major anchors, not
a lot of them, but there's a few,
which is probably why she's never on, doing
a daily show, that when they're talking, this
is kind of inside baseball, but when you
have this IFB in your ear, and someone's
talking to you, this was expressed, I think,
in the movie Network News.
Yes, entirely, yes.
Where, what's his name, where they could talk
to him, and he could, not too many
people can do this, but they can talk
to you in your ear, and you can
repeat right as they're saying it in real
time, as if you're saying it.
It's a skill, and some people can't, the
skill is like lost on them when the
IFB's going off, and the producer's saying what
you just said.
They're yucking at her.
She can't also listen to the guest.
She can only hear the guy.
She's a one-track mind, so she can
hear the guy in the IFB, and she
can't pay attention at the same time.
Some people can, some people can't.
She can't.
Well, the problem with her is that, and
this is what you shouldn't be doing, she
keeps saying, yeah, yeah, okay, but she keeps
interrupting, because she hears the question in her
ear.
Tom Brokaw could do, he was really good
at that.
I saw that, I think we talked about
it, the launch of MSNBC, and Tom Brokaw
interviewed President Clinton, was it President Clinton?
Yeah, it must have been President Clinton.
And I sat in the control room, because
we had done the chat or something for
MSNBC, and it was astounding how good he
was.
It was just, you know, he's talking, he's
listening, they're yelling in his ear, and they're
just, I mean, that guy was really good.
Yeah, that's what you're supposed, that is those
guys, it's non-trivial.
He, I don't believe, can even come close
to doing any of that.
Or you could just go on Joe Rogan
and take three hours and take your time
and have a nice conversation and get some
real information out of it.
This is the problem with a linear broadcast
system.
It's just not conducive anymore to what people
want.
Like, tell me more, instead of penguins.
So we go over to Kevin Hassert, he's
the director of the National Economic Council, he
showed up this morning on ABC This Week,
and he had a number of interesting things
to say.
So this is, now Stephanopoulos is going to
focus on prices and taxes and prices and
taxes and taxes and prices, and Hassert is
going to give him a piece of his
mind.
Where do you base your conclusion that you're
not going to see an increase in prices?
Just about every economist who's looked at this
said you are going to see an increase
in prices, including Goldman Sachs, including J.P.
Morgan, including the chairman of the Federal Reserve.
Well, there might be some increase in prices,
but the fact is that if there were
going to be a heavy burden on the
U.S. consumer, then this trade deficit that
for 30 years we've seen, really since China
entered the WTO, would be something that would
have gone down.
It would have gone down over time.
It would have responded to the prices.
The bottom line is that China entered the
WTO in 2000.
In the 15 years that followed, real incomes
declined about $1,200 cumulatively over that time.
And so if cheap goods were the answer,
if cheap goods were going to make Americans'
real wages, real welfare better off, then real
incomes would have gone up over that time.
Instead, they went down because wages went down
more than prices went down.
So we got the cheap goods at the
grocery store, but then we had fewer jobs.
And that's why President Obama and Chuck Schumer
and Nancy Pelosi and President Trump have come
out saying we've got to come up with
a better policy, a policy that treats our
workers fairly compared to everybody else.
And now President Trump, true to his word,
just like he promised during the campaign, just
like he put into his campaign platform, he's
delivering on his word.
Okay.
Hassard, by the way, was a professor of
economics at Columbia.
I guess he also wrote a book.
I don't know if he was...
It was in 1999.
Dow 36,000, the new strategy for profiting
from the coming rise in the stock market.
I don't think his track record is so
good as it was published just before the
dot-com bubble burst.
So...
It did go over 36,000.
He was right about that.
It's just timing.
I'm always...
I guess I get to say it.
I'm always surprised.
I'm amazed that people will be sending me,
hey, I know what the tariffs are about.
$9 trillion has to be refied this year.
There's $3 trillion coming up in April and
May.
This is probably what it's about.
I'm like, yeah.
Did you listen to us on March 13th?
So we've already been all over this.
And it appears, certainly from the president's truth
on Truth Social, that he was hoping that
the Federal Reserve would lower the interest rates
and this came up.
Yeah, he bitched about that.
Yeah, and was this a strategy, he asks
George.
Also on Truth Social, the president retweeted a
post that said the market drop was part
of a deliberate strategy to force the Fed
to lower interest rates.
Is that the president's strategy?
He just said it on Truth Social.
Why are you asking if that's his strategy?
If not, why did he post it?
He just posted it as a joke.
Yeah, he was just gaffing.
The bottom line is the president has been
talking about tariffs for 40 years.
And this has been absolutely the policy that
he's focused on in the campaign and throughout
his political career.
And the cyclical cycle of the Fed, it
comes and goes, that's a different matter.
But this is President Trump's desired policy.
He's been arguing for it ever since I
think he was on The View 30, 40
years ago.
And the baseline tariffs is exactly what he
put into the convention.
So this is not a surprise for anyone.
But is it his strategy to force the
Fed to lower interest rates and that the
market crash was part of that strategy?
We understand the Fed is an independent agency.
We respect the independence of the Fed.
Yeah, but that's not good enough for me.
Is it a strategy?
So that is his strategy, tank the market
so the Fed- No, no, no.
Well, you just said the president is allowed
to have an opinion.
Is that his opinion?
No, this guy is about to fall apart,
this Hassett guy.
He's trying to deliver for American workers.
I mean, what would you have him do?
Again, real wages down 15 years in a
row under the previous policy and that's why
Americans voted for him.
They brought him in to turn the economy
around for the American worker and that's what
he's focused on.
I'm just trying to get some clarity.
Is that the president's strategy or not?
He posted it.
He said the strategy is for the markets
to crash so the Fed lowers interest rates.
Is that- It's not a strategy for
the markets to crash.
It's a strategy to create a gold mage
in America for the American worker.
That's his strategy.
JPMorgan says the risk of a recession has
climbed to 60%.
Your response?
We just had one of the stronger jobs
reports I've seen in a long time.
It was about 50% better than markets
expected.
It's the second one in a row.
We've created already something like 10,000 auto
jobs since President Trump took office.
I just got word, anecdotal word last night,
that auto plants are adding second shifts in
the U.S. in order to respond to
this tariffs.
Nissan in particular.
What's that?
Oh, Nissan.
That's a big factory here.
They decided to double production or something.
They figured they could really take advantage of
the situation.
I have a couple of tariffs.
I have two more clips here.
This is where Hassett makes a crucial mistake
and Stephanopoulos is going to hound him for
it.
But a tariff is a tax increase, isn't
it?
A tariff is a form of tax.
It's a way- Oh, no!
to collect revenue when you import products, yes.
And consumers pay that tax, correct?
No, because it depends on supply and demand.
Again, if you thought consumers are going to
pay that tax, then you should be puzzled
about- Now he's saying tax.
Why does countries are upset about it?
Well, I'm focused on the consumers right now.
You've conceded the prices are going to go
up because of the tariffs.
They might go up some, but not nearly
as much as you implied in your piece.
And the reason is that the supply isn't
elastic in China.
Again, I'll give you the simple example.
If you have an apple tree that has
100 apples, and then you're paying $1 an
apple, and then there's a $0.10 tax,
then if people if you raise the price
to $1.10, people reduce their demand.
So maybe they only demand 90 apples, but
then you've got 10 apples left.
So what are you supposed to do with
the 10 apples that nobody wants?
So what happens is the suppliers have to
lower the price of apples in order to
get back to $100.
And so the question is, is supply inelastic
or not?
And I think that by seeing persistent trade
deficits year after year after year, then we
can say, yeah, supply is very inelastic.
So you're saying consumers are either going to
have to buy less or pay more, but
the tariff is a tax.
You just conceded it.
No, what happens is that the supplier cuts
his price so that the price is still
$1.
Good buying example.
Yeah, yeah, I'm sorry.
You screwed that one up.
The whole thing is screwed up.
Here's the question.
You should turn these questions around on these
interviewers.
And one example is, why is it if
it's the American consumer is going to pay
more for something, thus being a quasi tax.
How come Range Rover, for example, who sends,
I think, 100,000 vehicles to the United
States every year out of a production of
400,000, they send 100,000 vehicles to
the United States.
They decided to not send any because they
don't want to pay the tariffs.
You mean the tax?
How does that work?
Well, or just, I mean, as we discussed
on the last show, the real thing you
say is, well, then why would China try
and hurt its people with a 34%
increase in tariffs?
It's a tax.
Are they trying to kill their people?
That's another example.
You can turn these questions around.
It's Trump usually has guys that can do
that.
Yeah, but Hassard, he went to Apple's.
No.
Sorry.
Someone needs some media training over there.
He's no good.
Curry Dvorak Consulting Group is available.
Being badgered by, of all people, Stephanopoulos.
You can back him off by saying, you
just keep repeating the same question over and
over.
What am I supposed to do?
I'm going to answer it the same way.
You're just going to bore people stiff with
the same question over and over and over
and over until I change my answer?
What are you doing here?
Dvorak for Commerce Secretary.
I mean, Director of the National Economic Council,
whatever.
You could do it.
You could do it.
You'd be good.
All right, you had clips?
Yeah, I have a couple.
I don't have a lot.
But I have the tariffs.
Here's the rundown from NPR that's just a
backup.
It was a general overview.
Businesses and stock markets around the world are
reeling from President Trump's new 10% tariffs
on nearly everything.
The U.S. imports, those went into effect
today.
25% tariffs on foreign-made autos are
also in effect.
That'll set Wall Street lower for its worst
week in five years.
China hit back, announcing a 34% tariff
on all American goods.
NPR's Scott Horsley has more.
For decades, Trump has nursed this grievance that
other countries are taking advantage of the U
.S., and he has a kind of steam
-driven nostalgia.
Hold on a second.
I didn't catch this.
This is a kind of a, oh, bullcrap.
This is a Oh, he's been nursing this
grievance, and it's like as if other people
are taking advantage.
I mean, the way this is this haughty
presentation of the facts, it's just...
We've been doing this for over 17 years.
Will these people ever stop?
Well, they don't listen to the show.
For decades, Trump has nursed this grievance that
other countries are taking advantage of the U
.S., and he has a kind of steam
-driven nostalgia for the Gilded Age, when the
U.S. was less globally connected.
You heard him talk about that period before
1913.
Why that year?
That's when the U.S. adopted the income
tax.
Now, Trump wants to cut the income tax
and replace some of that revenue with his
new tariff.
That would be good for wealthy Americans, who
would get most of the benefit of the
tax cut, but it's not so good for
lower-income families, who will have to pay
more for imported food and clothes and other
necessities.
I had to stop.
Because the poor people won't be able to...
They're going to have to pay more for
their imported caviar.
The poor people have to pay more for
their imported food.
What poor people eat imported food?
They're eating stuff out of a bag with
a barcode.
Give me a break.
Okay, good.
I'm glad you got that.
Here's a local report from CBS, I think,
in Florida, about the tax plan, and the
Senate seems like it's taking it up.
Over the weekend, Senate Republicans are set to
take a major step in the direction of
passing President Trump's agenda, teeing up a vote
later this year on a tax cut package
paid for by cutting government spending.
The bill would most likely include an extension
of the President's signature legislative accomplishment from his
first term, the 2017 Tax Cuts and Jobs
Act, which raised the standard deduction for taxpayers,
but will expire at the end of this
year if no action is taken.
The bill could also accomplish other large pieces
of Trump's agenda, including tax incentives he campaigned
on, like no tax on tips, no tax
on overtime, no tax on Social Security benefits,
and raising the state and local tax deduction,
or SALT cap.
That sounds like nothing but tax cuts for
rich people.
But some of the plan's largest pieces haven't
been ironed out yet, with Republicans still looking
for ways to pay for some of these
tax cuts.
Democrats on Capitol Hill saying they will oppose
the Republican plan, and claim Republicans will cut
Medicaid and other social services to cover the
plan's cost.
The job of the Democrats over the next
36 hours is to hold the Republicans' feet
to the fire, force them to tell the
truth about what they want to do to
the American economy, and what they believe fairness
is, and that is a country that works
for a handful of billionaires, and lets everybody
else eat dirt.
Though this past week, Republicans- We're going
to eat dirt.
It's not even canned goods.
You're eating dirt.
You're eating dirt.
Past week, Republicans notched two victories in special
elections in Florida, clawing back two vacant Republican
-friendly seats.
House Republicans still have an extremely slim majority
in Congress.
The horse trading necessary to reach an agreement
that nearly all Republicans can support could prove
to be extremely difficult.
House Speaker Mike Johnson claims to have the
smallest Republican majority in American history, and says
he wants to pass the finished bill in
the next couple months.
I didn't know it was the smallest majority
in American history.
That doesn't make any sense.
It's pretty small, but if you're a reporter,
he claims.
Why don't you just look it up, reporter?
It would take two seconds.
Any of the AI search engines could do
it.
Is this the smallest majority in history?
You look it up.
Instead, you say he claims.
It could prove to be extremely difficult.
House Speaker Mike Johnson claims to have the
smallest Republican majority in American history, and says
he wants to pass the finished bill in
the next couple months, timing that could prove
to be extremely tricky.
So imagine my surprise when I got this
report from KTLA in Los Angeles.
This is the local Jamoke guy.
He's a...
I was just surprised that he got...
The local Jamoke.
That's an actual show title.
It's a position within every news...
We go now to our local Jamoke in
Los Angeles about the trade war.
What's interesting about the super-rich is back
in the 19th century, early 20th century, much
if not most of their wealth was tied
to actual things.
Railroads.
Factories.
That sort of thing.
Nowadays, the super-rich have their money almost
exclusively in stocks.
So when the stock market does well, they
get much richer.
When the stock market has a bad day,
like today, they get poorer.
And that's obviously a big deal for them
because these guys keep score in dollar signs.
Now, what makes this more interesting is that
President Trump has been largely immune to criticism
from, well, the Hoy Polloy.
But he does listen to his peers in
the millionaire and billionaire class.
I think it's a fair bet to say
that a number of rich people will be
calling the White House to say, dude, what's
going on?
Moreover, worth pointing out, this is the wealthiest
cabinet in the White House ever.
More billionaires sitting in that building than ever
before.
It's hard not to think that more than
one or two are walking down the hall
to the Oval Office and saying, uh, Mr.
President, sir, can I have a moment?
Yeah.
Doesn't that say something?
Local joke?
I thought that was it.
Now, contrast that with Senator Chuck Schumer.
And why is he doing these tariffs?
Why would he do something like this?
Because the Republican Party is in the vice
grip of a group of very greedy billionaires.
They have a billionaire bubble.
And they say yes.
Oh, by the way, he's got lots of
alliteration.
He's trying to launch all kinds of meme
phrases.
The billionaire bubble.
A billionaire bubble.
And they say yes.
All this money from tariffs could help make
our taxes lower.
It's a disgrace.
It's an absolute disgrace.
The amendment that we're doing calls for rescinding
Trump's disastrous chaotic tariffs that are hurting Americans.
Everything's going to go up.
Groceries, medicines, cars, gasoline, furniture, clothing.
So far gasoline is down.
Okay.
Everything will go up.
Yeah, but there's been almost a collapse of
the oil market.
Yeah, I have a clip on that.
But let me just finish Schumer.
You name it, it's going to go up.
Because this is across the board, across the
world.
And by the way, businesses hate this.
Not just big businesses.
Small businesses.
They need certainty.
Small businesses.
I got a text from Justin at Opie
Way.
You know, he started Pearl Boot after their
Opie Way shoe company, America Made Shoes, got
devastated by the hurricane in North Carolina.
You know what he said?
He said, I hate Trump for doing this.
I can't believe he's trying to make it
easy for me to start a business without
competition.
I'm a small businessman.
I hate it.
And when they hear about...
Let's say we have a kennel that's doing
well.
Of course.
And when they hear about all these tariffs
coming out, they don't hire any new people.
They don't expand any services.
They don't build a new plant.
They say, uh-oh, these tariffs are coming.
I've got to keep my money in my
pocket.
Literally building a new factory.
A mini factory, but a factory.
Schumer has never worked a day in his
life.
He's been on the public dole.
He's rich.
Here we go.
The whole thing.
He's just...
I don't understand why they haven't gotten rid
of him by now.
I don't know what photos he's got, but
how he stays in office is killing me.
Let's wind it up with the meme of
the week.
Well, before you wind it up, I have
a couple more.
I have 12 seconds.
I have 12 seconds left on this clip.
You're winding up the whole topic.
No, I'm winding up Schumer.
Schumer.
I have OPEC, whatever you want.
Let's finish Schumer, because he's going to wind
it up with the meme of the week.
...so poorly planned that he's taxing penguins, not
Putin.
Taxing penguins, not Putin.
There it is, everybody.
Because the tax is levied on the Herd
and McDonald Islands, where only penguins live.
But he's leaving Russia alone.
Schumer is behind all this.
But Schumer is behind these types of things.
He stinks at it.
Well, yeah.
Remember the scripted thing that all the senators
were doing?
He totally stinks at it.
I have two clips from Bloomberg about the
OPEC, if you want to do something else.
OPEC's not...
This is obscure.
I'm sure you don't have or know about.
These are two clips about Timu.
Did you hear about what's...
I don't know why this has been overlooked.
This is something you could really drive home
and really upset people with.
Timu's dead, and this executive order that I
didn't know about, that hasn't been played up
in the media for reasons unknown to me,
because I think it's a good...
The below $800?
Yeah.
Yeah.
I think we talked about it.
Well, it's fairly new, but I think this
presentation's quite good.
A head-spinning week for the economy.
Hold on a second.
This...
I mean, come on, man.
Can't you just put it on the clip,
like Scott is coming?
Suffering succotash.
I'm Scott.
Simon.
A head-spinning week for the economy.
By the way, stop, stop.
Who put that little...
What is the point of the air horn
in the middle of the...
I'm Scott.
What is the point of anything on this
show, John?
What is the point?
A head-spinning week for the economy.
President Trump's tariffs hit in just about every
nation and every industry.
Here's something that got less attention.
The president also moved to close a popular
loophole known as the de minimis rule.
Yeah, de minimis.
It allows millions of U.S. shoppers to
buy products, everything from shoes and underwear to
lamps and tools.
Don't you remember that the Postal Service says
we're not going to be delivering these packages,
and then they turned it around all of
a sudden after this executive order came out?
It was the oddest thing.
This whole thing is fairly odd, but I've
been thinking about this, because I like these
cheap...
I think AliExpress...
Yeah, you love USB sticks.
They're junk, but the thing is you get
this crap.
It comes straight from China, and it comes
pretty quickly, and I think there's some sort
of a deal with the delivery services.
Now they have their own warehouses in America,
Timu.
So this junk comes in by the boat
load, and you order like 20 items, and
the whole bill is like 40 bucks, and
10 of the items are garbage.
And the other ones you go, well, I
don't know, maybe this is...
I have to reiterate, Tina buys all kinds
of clothing stuff, probably in the $70 range,
$45, $75 range, and this is what...
so many women do this.
They'll order five pieces, and they're going to
send four back.
And now it's at the point where, and
I'm sure this is all coming from China,
Vietnam, etc., where the company will say, if
you don't send it back to us, we'll
give you a 110% credit of what
you paid.
I mean...
That's got to stop at a certain point.
They don't want the returns.
No, because it's junk.
Directly from retailers in China and Hong Kong.
Till now, you could make those purchases without
paying import taxes.
That's about to change.
And Pierre's Brian Mann has been following this.
Brian, thanks for being with us.
Hi there, Scott.
How big is closing this loophole?
Well, Scott, it's huge, really, in two ways.
First, it's going to affect a lot of
American consumers who have come to rely on
big Chinese e-commerce firms like Xi'an
and Temu for a lot of low-cost
products, as you mentioned.
This is everything from fast fashion to toys
and tools.
These companies have built global brands marketing on
social media platforms like Instagram and TikTok where
influencers celebrate when their packages arrive.
Check out my latest Xi'an haul.
Valley flats are trending and this quilted pair
has a great cushion sole.
With marketing like that, Scott, over the last
decade, U.S. shoppers fell in love with
these companies.
Direct-to-consumer international shipments exploded to around
$54 billion in sales last year, roughly 4
million packages coming every day.
What's going to change with Trump's new executive
order?
So, under this de minimis rule, shoppers who
place orders worth under $800, and you can
get a lot of low-cost dresses or
office supplies for that amount, they haven't, until
now, been hit with duties or taxes.
And they also get their packages really fast
because they haven't had to wait for the
usual customs and inspection process.
But under the president's executive order, that's going
to come to a screeching halt May 2nd.
Every package will now face a tariff of
30%.
Eventually, anything consumers order in this way is
going to face a minimum fee of 50
bucks.
And remember, if you're buying a $2 t
-shirt or a $10 skirt, that amount of
tax is a huge markup.
Yeah, May 2nd.
Okay.
I thought that this had already gone into
effect.
Is this a new report?
Yeah, this came yesterday.
Okay.
This is good.
Yeah, May 2nd.
So, get your orders in, people.
Order your junk, get your dresses, your cheap
dresses and everything.
It's going to be a boom.
They make good cameras.
I'm doing you.
No, I'm talking about the Chinese making cameras.
They make Nikon cameras and other cameras.
Yeah, cameras.
Cameras.
Which is, I'm just saying they can make
high quality products.
I'm not saying Timu and Xian and the
other operations are making quality products.
And it's probably toxic junk.
Well, a lot of it stinks.
I think there's an ad for WeatherTech that
basically has the kids wearing masks, gas masks,
where they bought the Chinese junk.
Alright, second.
Because a lot of this stuff does stink.
Oh, yeah.
It's nasty.
One thing that's interesting here, a study published
last year predicts this change is going to
cost Americans more than $10 billion a year
in higher prices with much of that burden
hitting.
What is that all about?
This is assuming they're going to keep buying
stuff at $50 minimum.
You have to pay $50 over the top,
plus the tariffs, and you have to wait.
It's not going to cost the American public
$10 billion.
The American public is not going to spend
a nickel.
No, the American public is going to go,
I don't need that junk.
It's no longer cheap junk.
It's just junk.
This is a bullcrap number.
Saved or created.
With much of that burden hitting lower income
shoppers.
Oh, there we go again.
The lower income.
The poor people.
The poor people.
Buying directly from Chinese and Hong Kong retailers
is so popular in America.
Why change the rule?
That's a great question.
And a lot of President Trump's tariffs have
obviously been controversial, but this move actually has
broad bipartisan support backing from a bunch of
different public safety and industry groups.
And they have really two arguments.
First, they say this has been unfair competition.
All these cheap, untaxed goods flooding American markets,
pricing out U.S. manufacturers.
Second, government officials believe a lot of illegal
stuff, including street fentanyl, the drug, is coming
across the border hidden in these packages.
I spoke about this with Kimberly Glass.
She heads the National Council of Textile Organization.
That's a trade group that supports U.S.
clothes makers.
It's regrettably facilitated fentanyl and other illicit products
like forced labor products to our front doors,
on our steps, babies products that are failing
to meet FDA standards.
Now I should say these big e-commerce
companies like Xi'an and Temu say they
do have ethical supply chains and quality control.
But what we know is that this change,
it's going to be a huge blow to
their business model.
Brian, this executive order only affects shipments from
China and Hong Kong.
What about products that are sold directly from
other countries?
Yeah, so for now, shoppers can still buy
directly from retailers shipping from other countries like
Bangladesh, India, and Vietnam.
But the Trump administration has signaled that it
plans to close these de minimis loopholes in
the months ahead for the entire globe.
They're phasing this in slowly because it turns
out it's a big challenge for U.S.
Customs and Border Protection to process and tax
all these millions of packages.
Alright, I'm feeling there was a very long
game being played here.
And this goes back to the TikTok ban,
which, by the way, not a lot of
talk of China stealing our information anymore.
Just don't see that.
I guess it's not important anymore.
It was the most important thing ever.
And so I remember that there was a
carve-out.
There was a carve-out from shopping sites
like Timu.
There was a carve-out from review sites.
This is from what you found very tedious
Supreme Court decision about TikTok.
Even if you could get just to the
data security question, again, you have to ask
the question, would this law have been passed
by Congress for data security reasons?
Because you're being asked to uphold a law
based on that single governmental interest.
And when you look through the provisions, like
the content recommendation algorithm provision, like the covered
company provisions, the answer's no.
And if you're still in doubt on that,
just go back to the under-inclusiveness problem.
Would a Congress really worried about these very
dramatic risks leave out an e-commerce site
like Timu that has 70 million Americans using
it and every bit the connection?
Does Congress have to go all or nothing
on that?
I mean- It doesn't have to go
all or nothing.
They isolate a particular problem.
So that was part of the carve-out,
is Timu.
And I think now, considering that the number
one retailer, as we know TikTok is really
the TikTok shop, is now last-minute bid
with an extension which will last around May
or beyond May.
I'm thinking they totally screwed the Chinese.
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TikTok is not interesting for the social aspect
other than social shopping.
That's what they do.
Okay.
It's great for the show.
Oh, I can't believe I said that.
Great for the show.
It's great for the show because it makes
you happy.
Come on.
It makes you happy.
That's because it makes you happy.
So it's great for the show.
Uh-huh.
Uh-huh.
Um, but, uh, think about the, it's like
China.
Okay.
Listen, either you sell it to Amazon and
the president has said, and we're going to
be part owner of it.
That's what he kept saying.
Oh, $500 billion.
Like, I don't know about that, but, um,
we're, we're going to be part owner.
If not, oh, screw you then.
Goodbye.
There goes, there goes that.
So Amazon seems to be the one.
I don't see.
Amazon may be part of this whole scheme
because Amazon is the one that's hurt the
most by Timu and Xian.
Yeah.
At least with other people are hurt by
him too.
Uh, but Amazon I think is hit hard
because of all the junk besides the clothing,
the junk tools and the junk, this and
John, I mean, it's just junk where Amazon
normally would be the one selling the same
junk.
And I've pointed this out with a, with
a mouse that I bought from one of
these operators.
I think about it from Aliexpress, a little
gorgeous, fabulous mouse.
It was five bucks F direct from China.
I got a copy.
There it is.
I have it here.
And the, and this is the same mouse
I bought a year earlier from Amazon for
$11.
And the difference is $5 and $11 for
the exact same product is pretty substantial.
Um, technology companies in general is going to
be very interesting.
What's happening and where I kind of made
a flippant remark about turning off our social
networks to Europe.
I think, uh, I think there's, there's something
going on.
Uh, this is, uh, you know, France and
the UK are now teaming up, teaming up
because we've got a combat, we're stopped buying
American products.
Oh, wait a minute.
They're not actually made in America.
Under their star spangled banner, the United States
is home to a constellation of brands, many
of which can be found in France, mobile
phones, groceries, and everyday goods.
Could these items soon be taxed by the
European Union in retaliation to president Donald Trump's
sweeping new trade policies?
Many American products are part of daily lives
in France, including almonds of which California is
the largest producer.
Now, president Trump has slapped a 10%
tariff on most imports and raise the EU
levy rate to 20%.
These are products that I consume on a
regular or daily basis.
We'll probably have to rethink the way we
shop.
Honestly, if it becomes too expensive, I won't
buy these products anymore.
That's the product the French people most are
made in America.
That key, of course, I won't buy, which
is what people keep overlooking.
If it's too expensive, I won't buy it.
And by the way, who eats almonds every
day?
But wait, what products are they not going
to buy?
Where are they made?
Where we shop.
Honestly, if it becomes too expensive, I won't
buy these products anymore.
That's the products the French consume most are
made in other countries.
For example, iPhones are made in China and
American athletic brand Nike has factories across Southeast
Asia for certain fast food chains or sweet
drinks.
Production is even located in France.
Pepsi, M&M, Ariel and Coca-Cola are
all made in the country, so their costs
shouldn't be affected.
Bank of America analysts say among the global
panic, there is some good news.
Commodity prices are falling for the first time
in four years.
Oil prices have fallen to an average of
65 US dollars per barrel, the same for
wheat and cotton.
The EU's answer to President Trump could be
American big tech.
One option is to target social media platforms
and streaming services with regulations and other restrictions.
I say cut them off.
That would be so funny.
Cut them off.
Just sorry.
Then you remember when these when these things
first came into play maybe about 10 years
ago with the digital digital regulations that when
I was in Europe, you go to a
website and it would say, sorry, the the
the what is the GPR, GDRP, you know,
the yeah, yeah, some regulation.
Yeah.
GDRP.
That's what it is, you know, about information
that you have on people and you have
to adhere to certain certain guidelines or rules,
really.
So now they're going to try because, of
course, there's a lot of money that comes
into America from Europe based on, you know,
from Meta and Google and some from X,
I'm sure.
And Microsoft and Microsoft operating system still.
You think somebody I mentioned this to Mimi
the other day, I said, you know, so
during the rescue of the astronauts that Elon
Musk had started SpaceX from scratch, basically by
taking a bunch of NASA people and putting
them together and all of a sudden they
have the best rocket you can buy pretty
much because we were buying our rocket engines
from Russia for years.
And so now we make our own is
better than anybody else's.
I'm thinking, is this going on?
And they got the capsules, all this stuff.
And we can't find somebody to make a
new operating system.
Well, we had me, it seems to me,
we got the ability to build a space
program from scratch and somebody can't come along
and beat Windows.
We have Linux besides Linux, which stinks.
No, it does.
It doesn't stink.
Oh, then why aren't you using it?
I do use Linux.
I can't use it in the studio because
because the the the stupid Australians won't give
us drivers that work with Linux.
But otherwise, yeah, I do use Linux all
the time.
I'm just saying is an example.
You can't use it for the production of
the show.
You are using Libra office.
I use a lot of public.
I use a lot of these things, but
it's beside the point, why don't we just
get rid?
Windows is still dominates.
Can't we get rid of Windows?
It's gone bad.
It's no good.
In fact, what's the deal with all Windows
10 is going to be the last Windows
you ever need.
And now I keep getting these whole screen
messages.
Oh, you got to move to Windows 11.
It won't work.
I just promise.
Where's the lawsuit on this?
Where's somebody coming out with a lawsuit because
they promised that Windows 10 was it?
That's right.
Windows 10.
I'm not I have not upgraded, even though
they keep telling me I should, because it's
going to end.
It won't work anymore.
I'm going to wake up one day, do
the show and the show won't be there.
This is this is illegal.
Where's the FTC when it comes to this?
They made a verbal.
They said it in public that Windows 10
is the last Windows.
Really?
You don't remember this?
I don't think about five years ago when
I first brought out Windows 10, they said,
oh, Windows 10 is it.
This is the end.
Now it's just going to be upgrades to
Windows 10.
You're going to live a fabulous life.
The term Windows and fabulous life just not
does not go together no matter what.
Interesting.
Well, I'd like to I'd like to have
some some clip of that.
I believe you without a doubt.
But of course, the same was said for
Vista.
This Vista, which turned out to be pretty
good in hindsight.
Yeah.
But that only lasted like three years or
two years and got bad PR at the
beginning.
It was poorly done.
It was a crap.
It was a crap name.
And Vista.
Yeah.
Vista.
Vista.
Vista.
Vista.
OK.
Since they were talking about consumers, consumers saying,
no, no, I just won't buy these products,
which is exactly what will happen over in
Washington State.
Como, Como, the big Como.
They seem like they were just home of
Costco.
They were really trying to spark some kind
of hype, panic, panic buying.
And and the people in Washington went, no,
not really courting away like normal.
But for how long?
For how long?
At Costco and Shoreline, many shoppers told Como
they worried more about the result of panic
buying than the pumped up prices or just
like an extra luxury item.
It's not really necessary if you were smart
enough, you would already been prepared and have
non perishable foods anyway, according to the manager
of this store.
Everything has been normal so far.
In fact, he told us the overall Costco
company, of course, based in Issaquah, doesn't expect
a major impact from tariffs.
And customers agree.
It's always been busy.
I don't know a day that's not busy
at Costco.
While everything is normal at this store, economists
tell Como overall panic buying is still a
possibility, especially as costs go up for pretty
much anything.
These tariffs started off very targeted, but they've
become quite broad.
Yet in Shoreline, customers told us it's not
time to panic buy, and it never is.
I don't think anyone needs to like go
and run and clear out the Costco.
That's probably not healthy for our community.
This is the actual problem.
This is what freaks the rest of the
world out, is that the American public may
just become a little more frugal.
We may just wake up one day and
go, you know, this kind of junk.
My house is filled with junk.
My kids got junk plastic toys.
I got junk everywhere.
It's just I got junk.
The internet of things everywhere.
It's just junk is junk.
And I'm sick of the junk.
And if that really happens, whoa, baby.
Because we are the consumer of the world.
We buy everyone's junk.
And that's just- Yeah, we can stop.
I think we might.
I think that's what everybody is worried about.
Well, it's going up in price.
You know, junk has to be cheap.
Yes.
I want to play this- And that's
why I think that, you know, Timu and
Xi and those guys are big enough that
they should be able to relocate to Vietnam
or do something else and still stay in
business.
It's going to be a moment where they
can't.
But I mean, you just can't do that
instantly.
Well, Vietnam- The Chinese are fast at
putting buildings up.
They're faster than we are by a lot.
Vietnam is talking about zero tariffs.
They're already like, oh, we'll go- Vietnam
is caved.
The smart money.
Vietnam is one of the smartest countries in
the world.
They have one of the highest literacy rates
of all civilized nations.
It's something like 97%.
Really?
It's very high.
Wow.
That's more than us.
That's a lot more than us.
It's way more than us.
Yeah.
It's sad.
And not only that, but many are bilingual.
They speak English.
They speak Vietnamese.
And it's a very smart country with a
lot of craftsmen.
And it's kind of always underrated because of
the government itself.
The government is communist.
And so it doesn't quite get it.
I want to play these Bloomberg clips about
OPEC because I have some questions for you.
OPEC decision was really kind of the second
blow to oil prices yesterday.
We were already trading a bit lower.
And the way it worked out during the
trading day here in the Middle East, the
OPEC announcement came hours after people were already
digesting the tariff decision, which had happened Wednesday
in the US.
But people woke up to it on Thursday
here in the region.
So we were already trading lower because of
concerns about those tariffs, increasing inflation, hurting economic
activity, which is something that we've been dealing
with throughout this year really.
Oil has been very volatile already, but staying
in that range.
And we just kind of went way below
that.
We lost about 7%, give or take, yesterday
because that OPEC increase was much higher than
expected.
We expected OPEC to kind of roll over
the increase that we're seeing here in April.
OK, now the question is, why did they
do this?
And I thought this was interesting.
Why did OPEC decide to bring forward the
timing of the extra barrel production to the
market?
Why did they do this now?
Yeah, so it had been a long kind
of convoluted formula to bring this oil production
back.
And really, they're bringing up basically three times
as much, so three months of increase in
one basically.
So as you say, bringing that forward, we're
still unwinding some of those voluntary cuts that
some of the OPEC Plus members have made.
And they're looking at inventories, seeing them not
as high maybe as they thought.
Of course, one of the factors that we've
been looking at all along really since COVID
has been the recovery of China.
That demand there is still sluggish, not coming
back as much as they would have wanted
to support the market.
But we're not seeing that build up in
inventories.
Perhaps also there's some thinking by OPEC that
a lot of the members had been cheating
on their quotas anyway, overproducing anyway.
So maybe these quotas kind of grow into
the production as you will for some of
those producers.
And then there's the idea that they have
been losing market share with the Trump administration
that wants to increase production.
Now whether that's going to happen or not
because of the low oil prices, that's another
question.
Maybe OPEC trying to forestall some of that
by bringing down the price a little bit
here.
The oil baron keeps saying, no, we're not
going to drill.
We're not going to drill, baby, drill.
And yet, look at what's happening.
Is this our friends in Saudi Arabia?
I think it's a combination of things.
I think one, they're afraid that we are
going to drill and that's going to force
prices down.
So they decided to put the screws to
us by lowering prices and by increasing the
output.
The other possibility is that Trump has actually
talked to him and said, look, you got
to get this down.
Hey, Saudi Arabia, what's that in your mouth?
It was, you know, and we got it
also puts a little pressure on Russia because
they're making all their money on, still making
a lot of money on petroleum.
It's just, it's probably a combination of things,
but definitely coming down, it's going to keep
gasoline prices lower, lower everything, especially if we
can get down to below 60.
That would be great.
That really hurts American oil, though.
I've always, I've been told, well, if they're
not planning on drilling in the first place,
what difference does it make?
Yeah.
Yeah.
But below 65 apparently is hurtful to what
I've always, oh, the poor babies.
Hey, the oil, remember the oil barons sold
his ranch for 15 million.
Yeah.
What is he bitching about?
He's not bitching.
He's OK.
He's OK.
He's not crying.
He bought a new ranch already.
I mean, just take a look at Exxon
Mobil stock.
It's ridiculously high.
I will say I had some AI experience,
and I'm going to tell you that I
actually think this, I can't believe I'm going
to say this, this agent, this agentic AI,
agentic AI.
Yeah.
Define that.
Well, I actually, I got a trial from,
well, the trial didn't last long, from Manus
.im, Manus, M-A-N-U-S.im.
And what agentic AI is, the way I
see what it's doing, is you say, OK,
I need something done and it fires up
a computer.
It even, I mean, I presume it says
starting the computer.
So it starts a computer.
It starts a browser.
It's not starting the computer.
It does.
It does.
But it's like pulling a rope and it's
just cranking.
Yeah.
Well, that's like, yeah, it's like starting a,
you know, an AWS.
You start up a little computer.
It's already running.
But anyway, go on.
I'm sorry.
I'm into the semantics.
Yeah, you are into the semantics.
But I'm just telling you what it says.
It says, OK, I'm starting the computer.
It starts a web browser and it tells
you what it's doing and you see the
URLs as it's searching for stuff.
And then, you know, what AI does quite
well is creating summaries and stuff like that.
But you can.
But here's where I think it's good.
So it's basically an agent.
You tell this agent, go and do something,
something I could do.
You know, I could do it myself and
I can find all these things and I
can search for it.
But, you know, why don't I pay three
bucks for it?
And the problem, of course, is, is that
there's three bucks every single time you ask
for something.
This is very expensive, this, this agentic AI.
But you can even say, hey, I have
a repetitive task.
I have to go to this Web site,
I have to click all these different buttons.
Can you do it for me?
Yes.
And then it opens up the browser, the
computer's browser for you and you can do
click, click, click, click.
It's basically like creating a macro.
And I think if you, if there's anything
AI will do besides the just most wonderful
fake videos and, and pictures and whatever, which
is what you'd expect from something that's basically
built on, on GPUs.
We know it's good at that.
It's kind of a scripting macro tool.
The question is, how much will it really
cost?
You know, at a certain point, if, if
you're going to use this, would you wind
up paying $20,000 a year and that
is thus cheaper than a $45,000 a
year person.
But I don't see it going much further
than this.
But that, that part I have to say
is cool because you can just, it can
do stuff that you want it to replicate.
And so in that case, it's an agent.
I'm going to stop you.
What is it you had to do that
it was so important that you were so
impressed?
Spinning up a, a web, a streaming radio
station, and I want to replicate it.
So I want it to start up the
same one, different instances, and there's no way
to do it with the streaming radio station.
And so you have to do a whole
bunch of things with custom crossfades, custom, custom
processing, custom playlists.
And it would take me about an hour,
an hour and a half to do that
if I wanted to replicate that.
And so now I just tell the thing
to do it and it costs me about
$2.50 if that's the real price.
I mean, that, that's what they're charging now.
I mean, once it really comes down to,
we got to make money, it may cost
too much.
And that, and that, I was impressed with
that.
But it's not.
Can you have the same agent do your
RSS feeds?
Well, now that's a good question.
Yeah, I wouldn't see why not.
You mean so I know you have a
low of sub product there.
Oh no.
There's, that's what I'm saying.
But how much will it cost?
I don't believe that they're really charging, you
know, I think they're going for market share
here.
Yeah.
So you think that they're under, that you're,
that they're shipping money with every time you
give them three bucks, they're actually giving you
a hundred dollars worth of product.
So you get the free trial, it's a
thousand credits.
Give me a thousand credits.
Well, that, that blew off in like three,
three minutes and like, okay, but I really
want to try this.
I said, well, let me buy some credits.
So you go three, $39 a month, I
fully expected to, um, cancel $39 is more
than chat GPT.
And that's, that's almost double chat GPT.
And really, if I needed to do this
on a regular basis, you have to go
to the $290 a month.
At that point, it's like, I'll do it
myself.
And I think that they're still shipping off
money to me while doing that.
I just can't believe that that's profitable, but
you don't know for sure.
Don't know for sure.
Uh, but they, they've got a lot of
VC investment.
So we, we know that we know the
Silicon Valley strategy.
So it's really not, we know that the
deep seek model or however they're doing it,
the training doesn't seem to be so expensive,
supposedly we'll see, you know, the mag seven
problem as a, as a Besson said versus
the, uh, MAGA problem.
But all these data centers where they're in
the wrong place, they need to be closer.
They, you know, they need to be cheaper.
It's really going to be, I mean, hundreds
and hundreds of billions of dollars just to
fire up expensive computers.
I don't know if that model will work.
Maybe it'd be better if I bought the
model and use it in my own home.
I don't know.
But that thing that's interesting that does work.
And I can see where repetitive tasks that
no one ever, uh, built to fix the
stupidity, this is a shortcut.
Um, that seems like, it seems like it
works.
I was surprised by that.
So I will relent a little bit, but
AI is not going to take over the
world and eat the universe.
Yeah.
Oh, yes.
Well, I'm glad you're happy.
Um, well, I'm, I'm marginally happy.
I thought the price was, uh, was steep.
Yeah.
Price was steep.
I was like, what's your time worth?
I got nothing but time, man.
What are you talking about?
I got nothing but time.
But then you don't need to buy anything.
So, uh, let's talk about the dead bees.
We were going to do that in the
last show.
Yes.
Finally, finally, before, before we all die, let's
talk about the bees.
You have a, where is it here?
Yeah.
Two dead bee clips.
Uh, dead bee.
The beekeeping industry is in crisis over the
shocking and unexplained deaths of hundreds of millions
of bees over the last eight months.
It could impact all of us as bees
called the backbone of agriculture are responsible for
pollinating more than a third of the nation's
crops and current losses are unsustainable.
Janet Chamblee and has more on this stinging
decline.
This is what an unfolding disaster looks like
in the U S beekeeping industry.
Each of these hives can hold as many
as 80,000 bees, but for reasons no
one can pinpoint the bees in all these
hives and tens of thousands more have turned
up dead.
Have you ever seen it this bad?
Never.
Not even close.
The data is showing us that this is
the worst bee loss in recorded history.
Blake Shook is one of the nation's top
beekeepers.
He owns desert Creek, honey, and several other
beekeeping businesses.
One of them is rebuilding dead hives and
he's receiving an alarming number of them.
Where are they from?
Yeah, these are from North Dakota that we're
looking at right here.
Over there.
We've got Florida back here.
We've got Georgia.
I've got California over in that corner.
These play a critical role in U S
food production.
In addition to making honey, they pollinate 75
% of the fruits, nuts, and vegetables grown
in the U S.
It feels like I've heard this story before.
Yeah, this is why we came up in
the conversation after the show, when we did
some of these clips.
The, uh, yes, we had the bee die
off.
Uh, I think it was 10 years ago.
Eight years ago.
I have a 47 second clip from 2014.
2014.
Here we go.
Oregon leaders are taking action as thousands and
thousands of bees are dying, likely from pesticides.
It's a big concern because insects, especially bees,
are honey bees pollinate about a third of
what we eat.
And there you go.
Same, same report, only they had an immediate
culprit, which was pesticides.
Yeah.
They don't have the culprit for this one.
And they're also that, that period, the 2014.
He die off.
They also found some sort of might some
little bug that was on the bees.
And they thought it might've not been the
pesticides at all, but this might, it was
causing nothing but trouble.
They haven't identified anything with these bees.
They're working on it.
But this is a, uh, worse than before.
And it's, it's not, I mean, it could
be just a unnecessary panic, but this is
a, it's interesting.
Here we go with part two.
That's $15 billion worth of crops.
If this is a multi-year thing, it'll
change the way we consume food in the
United States.
That's a pretty significant statement.
It's huge.
It's huge.
I mean, if we lose 80% of
our bees every year, the industry cannot survive,
which means we cannot pollinate at the scale
that we need to produce food in the
United States.
So what's causing the deaths and why now?
So these are dead bees in there and
they have always an identifier for a project.
Julianna Rangel is an entomologist at Texas A
&M university.
She showed us the lab where they've been
studying the bees.
One potential explanation is that over the last
few years, we've seen some locations across the
U S that have had lower forage available
for bees.
So when they're supposed to be blooming, let's
say in April, they're blooming either earlier in
the year or later in the year.
And so we have these food deserts basically
in the summer and fall that the bees
sometimes cannot withstand.
Back at Shook's bee farm.
Here we go with the hood.
We suited up for a look at his
commercial operation.
Okay.
You ready?
Yep.
All right.
The first thing we do is smoke the
insurance and that calms the bees down.
This is what a healthy hive looks like.
And then in the center here, this is
where the baby bees are raised.
These just returned from California where the bees
were used to pollinate almonds.
Why are honeybees so essential to pollinating the
almond crops?
With honeybees, almonds produce two to 3000 pounds
per acre.
Without bees, they produce 200 pounds per acre.
So there is no almond crop without honeybees.
Beekeeping groups say the losses may put as
many as 25% of commercial operations out
of business by year's end with wide reaching
impact.
I got a call from a friend who
has 20,000 beehives at the start of
winter, and he's at less than a thousand.
And he said, this is it.
I'm done.
Hmm.
Well.
Yep.
There's our bad news.
They're killing the bees.
They're killing the bees.
How about, uh, got two funny M5M clips.
This is actually, this is not even, that's
not even that funny.
It's more puzzling.
The FCC is asking for the public's input
on its idea to revise or eliminate some
regulations on TV station ownership.
The initiative is called delete, delete, delete.
The FCC chairman says he wants to promote
local journalism by eliminating longstanding rules that put
limits on ownership.
Our parent company, Nextstar, believes this will help
local news survive and stay competitive into the
future.
The FCC is accepting comments from the public
through April 14th.
For more information, you can visit yourvoice.nxt
.io. Now in what world will, in what
world will more big corporations owning more stations,
but how will that stimulate local news?
I don't believe it for a second.
It doesn't have any bearing.
This is bull crap.
So is this is one of those, yeah,
if we do it this way, it'll be
better.
But just saying it's going to be better
doesn't mean it's going to be better.
And if it's illogic, but again, that's involved,
which is what we have here.
Again, long game.
What if this is the administration going?
Yeah.
Yeah.
You guys can own anything you want.
Go ahead.
It's going to make news.
Great.
I mean, here's an example of what this
results in.
This is a supercut from only a handful
of very large corporations who own all the
media.
Yeah, I hear you screaming, BlackRock owns everything.
Sure.
This is the Maryland man supercut.
A critical hearing today in the case of
a Maryland father mistakenly sent to that notorious
prison in El Salvador.
Attorneys for the Maryland man.
Who was mistakenly deported to a prison in
El Salvador are making another push for his
return today.
The Trump administration heads to federal court today
after being accused of wrongfully deporting a Maryland
father to El Salvador.
The Maryland man deported to El Salvador, Africa,
an administrative error.
There's actually a court hearing involving the Maryland
father.
The Maryland father's case is in court.
And happening now, a hearing for a Maryland
man.
Details about a Maryland man.
Tonight, the Maryland man.
The Maryland man.
Maryland father with protected legal status.
The Maryland father with protected status.
A Maryland father with protected legal status.
A Maryland father with protected legal status.
The Maryland father.
That Maryland father.
One of the things that struck me was
the lawyer for the Maryland man saying, there
is no such thing as a removal order
to nowhere.
More of that, please.
More of that.
Let him own everything.
That's exactly what you'd end up with, it's
already with Sinclair Broadcasting, it's the worst case
of that sort of thing.
Yes, they are bad.
They are bad.
I mean, they're supposed to be the, and
they're supposed to be the conservative network.
They're in Austin, I think.
Sinclair?
I thought they were in the Northeast.
No, I think they're Austin.
Austin headquarters, or they were.
By the way, all of this, you know,
deported the wrong guy, my favorite is the
gay hairdresser.
There's no evidence that the gay hairdresser was
thrown into the El Salvador jail.
I have not seen any true evidence of
this, just talk.
Have you seen anything?
No, none whatsoever.
Even Joe?
The poor gay hairdresser, which was all tatted
up, so that must be why they did
it, because they're careless.
Holman is careless.
Well, here's the thing.
MS-13 has no hair.
That's a good point.
None of those guys have hair.
They're all bald.
They're all bald, that's part of the look.
Yeah.
But I hear all these, deported wrongly, made
a mistake, clerical error, blah blah blah, but
I don't see...
Gay hair.
Why is the media not highlighting crying children
of Maryland man and gay hairdresser, who maybe
doesn't have kids?
Why don't they have mothers crying?
I don't see it.
If it was there, they would certainly be
showing it.
Oh yeah.
That's always the tell for me.
By the way, Canada, hello Canada, we love
you.
Hello Canada.
And now that Tom Ford loves us, man,
remember that?
Tom Ford, he loves us.
He loves us.
Wants to give us minerals.
Take my minerals.
So Mark Carney, he sees the writing on
the wall, oh, we better do something for
Canada.
We gotta do something.
I think we should build government housing.
Government housing.
Hundreds of thousands of government homes, up to
half a million.
By the way, you won't own them, they
will be rentals.
We used to build things in this country.
After the Second World War, Canada faced a
housing crisis.
The government built prefabricated homes that were easy
to assemble and inexpensive.
And those homes are still here 80 years
later.
Now we're in another housing crisis.
And it's time your government got back into
the business of building affordable homes.
We will build new homes for Canadians at
a pace not seen since the Second World
War.
We'll build a Canada you can afford.
Yes, we'll build a Canada and here's Polyev's
response to this ludicrous idea.
He wants to put the liberal policies on
steroids.
His housing plan, I don't know if you
saw this earlier this week, he wants to
create a government-run construction company that is
going to make prefab tiny homes with no
parking spots.
This is his idea for housing.
This is even more radical than the stuff
that came from Stephen Gilbo and Justin Trudeau
over the last 10 years.
This is not a serious plan to protect
our economy and break our dependence.
I love it.
Everybody gets a tiny home.
With no parking.
No parking.
You don't need parking.
You'll have a 15-minute city.
Walk everywhere.
Get a bicycle.
15-minute city of tiny homes.
Sounds great.
Want to talk about the protests?
Big protests over the weekend.
Yeah, big, big protests all run by ActBlue
and some odd union as well.
There were some unions involved with this.
The Workers' Party.
But if you look at the – what
was it called?
Identify?
What were those guys called?
Yeah, I think it was Identify.
Not Identify.
It was something else.
If you look at their website and you
– I always go to – just hit
the donation link, people.
ActBlue.
That is a Democrat party system.
That should have been – yeah, they do
a lot of embezzling.
Just like WinRed for the Republicans, which I
think – I've never even seen or heard
of WinRed.
Yeah, that's the – what's his face?
The Trump's son-in-law.
You know, the one who's married to the
daughter.
That one.
Yeah, yeah.
Jared.
Jared.
Jared?
Jared.
What's his name?
The guy with Subway, Subway sandwiches.
Jared Kushner.
There you go.
It's Kushner's deal.
Kushner make – he might have sold it,
but he was making bank in the first
term.
Yeah, it's another scam.
Scam.
Scammer.
Scammer.
Protests, BBC.
Let's start with that.
Is it from the World Service?
Yes, it is, actually.
Oh, hold on a second.
I need – I promised World Service clips
and I've got them.
Yeah, OK.
Here we go.
And now, live from London, we bring you
the BBC World Service as we look around
the globe for things taking place in your
world.
In this case, we go to the protests
against the evil president of the United States,
Donald J.
Trump.
This is the BBC.
Tens of thousands of protesters marched in Washington
and other major American cities on Saturday, denouncing
President Trump and what they consider his authoritarian
policies.
It was the largest single day of demonstrations
against Mr. Trump since his return to office.
Protesters condemned the dismissal of government officials, the
breakup of the Federal Department of Education, and
the president's sweeping new trade tariffs.
These people said the administration's actions would damage
the economy and leave the USA weaker.
Stock market's crashing, the economy's going to crash,
it's already crashing, and it's all about Trump.
His actions, his stupidity, his mistakes.
One of my major concerns is how much
disinformation that they are perpetuating out in the
public, that basic science and basic facts that
our democracy depends on is being torn down.
And when that happens, people get hurt.
Our democracy depends on science.
It's being torn down and people are getting
hurt.
They're getting hurt.
Well, some people are getting hurt.
People who are losing their jobs are getting
hurt.
Well, that's for sure.
So let's, I have two more clips from
the NPR, but before we do that, I
have an Interregnum clip.
Interregnum.
Yeah, I just have a short 14-second
clip of some of the Trump, you talked
these through, but we have, here are some
Trump protest chants.
Oh, good, good, good.
Let me guess.
Is it, hey, hey, ho, ho, Trump's no
good, Elon's got to go?
Is that one of the chants?
It's close, no, but you'll hear them.
Donald Trump has got to go, hey, hey,
ho, ho, hey, Trump, you liar, we set
your ass on fire.
No Trump, no pay, pay, pay, no fascist
USA.
President Trump took, yeah, we had the, we
had the handout with those.
Did we have the Trump, you liar, your
pants are on fire?
Was that in there?
I don't remember it.
This may be something for new for this
weekend.
They paid some PR firm a lot of
money to come up with that.
Listen, guys, we really need to work on
our chants.
Can you come up with a list for
us?
Chants.
Our chants.
Hey, hey, ho, ho has got to go
itself.
Donald Trump, you're a liar.
You're setting your own house on fire.
Genius people.
I think it's his pants on fire in
that one.
Oh, okay.
Pants on fire.
How old are they?
Liar, liar, pants on fire.
Seriously.
How old are they?
It turns out that most of the people
in most of these protests were all in
their 70s.
Yes.
There were some younger ones in New York,
but I'll let you play your clips first.
Yeah, well, let's start with this.
There's a woman on TikTok and YouTube who
goes out and does interviews with people.
And this is the TikTok clip, by the
way.
And even though it was not, it was,
I got it off Twitter.
And she wears a, Musk was not elected.
And so she can goad people.
And she agrees with them.
Oh, yeah, he's crazy.
And she does these interviews and it's really
pretty good stuff because she gets people to
say, because they think she's an ally.
So they go off to beat Ben.
Oh, one of these.
Oh, that's always funny.
It's very funny because people get suckered so
easily and she's, oh, yeah, you're right.
Yo, yeah, what else?
And so she found one guy who is
completely off the rails.
To the criminal charge of rape.
He is credibly alleged of having raped a
14 year old girl.
Is that what you want for your president?
Absolutely not.
Wait, is that, is that.
When did this come up?
Who knows?
Which one are you guys talking about?
I'm sorry, I interrupted you.
You're good, my friend, you're good.
I was talking about our alleged president, our
fascist, nazified, idiot, moronic.
The mango menace?
Break our NATO alliance.
Turn our allies against us.
Steal our money.
Throw 71 people, 71 million people off Medicaid
that people depend on.
71 million people.
Is this what you want?
Do you want money taken from your grandma?
Do you want to not support battered women?
And abused children?
Is that what you believe?
Stand up and say it, fascist.
Stand up and say it.
I'm standing up and saying what I believe.
You stand up and say what you believe.
And not platitudes.
And not idolatry.
Let's hear ideas.
You have no ideas.
All you have is hate, racism, stupidity, and
greed.
A round of applause for that right there.
He has been waiting a while for that.
Yeah, that was great.
Yo, hold on.
No, no, no, no, no, no.
You've got to stop.
You've got to stop.
I don't think so.
Yes, I do.
I do.
I think that was a great clip.
That is a delusional dem if I ever
heard one.
That was great.
Yeah, that's for sure.
So this girl, she also has these two
bodyguards that are near her.
Bodyguards.
That look like they're in this case, they
were at a Tesla thing.
And they were behind her as though they
were guarding the Tesla factory.
And they kept getting called out.
But they're always around, these two guys.
And they're two guys, just in case somebody
gets, you know, attacks this woman.
Yeah.
Because she's goading them into saying all kinds
of crazy stuff.
And she goes from person to person with
this.
Elon was an elected thing as though she's
an ally.
It's just very well done.
The thing that's disturbing is he sounds like
he really believes that.
Oh, no, he does.
He was incredibly sincere.
His hair was disheveled.
He looked a little like he was probably
around 60.
And he looked like Bernie Sanders a little
bit.
Oh.
And he's just going nuts.
I mean, he was yelling and screaming.
71 million kicked off Medicaid.
It's factually just not true.
I don't understand where this is going.
No, everything he said is factually not true.
It's beside the point.
Yeah.
Trump is a rapist.
You're raping a 14-year-old.
Where did that come from?
Well, he should take it back to the
pee-pee tape.
Where's the pee-pee tape?
Hey, who was it?
Who was the actor who was going to
show us that?
Oh, it was Roseanne's ex-husband, Tom.
Tom Arnold.
I got the tape.
Yeah, yeah, he was going to reveal the
tape.
I got the tape.
I got the tape, everybody.
Good memory on that one.
Whew.
That's about all I got.
Protest USA.
This is the NPR rap, I believe.
Thousands of anti-Trump protesters took to the
streets today in cities across the country, including
Atlanta, Boston, Cincinnati, and New York.
Take a listen to the scene from the
nation's capital.
NPR's Emily Fang was at the protest in
Washington, D.C., and joins us now.
Good to have you with us, Emily.
Thanks for having me, Asma.
What did you hear about why people are
protesting?
They're protesting what they say is executive overreach
by President Trump and his ally, billionaire Elon
Musk.
Ally.
Here's a sampling of signs among hundreds that
I saw at the mall today in Washington.
There was one that said, quote, you can't
spell felon without Elon.
Another that said hands off due process.
Hold on.
Hold on.
Call the agency.
That was good.
That's a good one.
I have to say that's a good one.
There was one that said, quote, you can't
spell felon without Elon.
Another that said hands off due process.
And this pun, are you tariff-eyed?
So the top concerns among protesters I saw
today, inflation brought on by trade tariffs, the
role that Musk has in the current government
because he is not an elected official, and
also many kinds of worries about the expansion
of executive power.
You mentioned the expansion of executive power.
Did you hear specific concerns about that from
protesters?
Absolutely.
Here's Juliana, a federal employee who did not
want her full name aired because she's afraid
of being fired herself.
She was holding a sign that said, quote,
I need to be able to tell my
children I did not stay silent.
This time around, I have concerns that I
wonder if we will have an election, to
be frank.
She specifically fears that Trump may seek a
third presidential term, even though this is unconstitutional.
This is expressly prohibited by the 22nd Amendment.
And this so this is the brilliance.
Trump in this regard is just so smart.
He knows he just throws his stuff out
there and that's all they can talk about,
all they can report on.
And it makes you sound idiotic.
And I don't think they realize it.
I mean, that is trolling to the to
the to the nth degree, obviously.
Yeah, he's a great troll.
Yeah, it's beautiful.
And the grid's going to go down.
The grid.
Here we go.
Another protester I talked to, Austin Shriver, drove
in from Virginia nearby, and he and a
friend were holding signs saying no kings.
And he said he was angry about executive
orders cracking down on immigration.
If the president can decide that he's going
to ignore the courts when they tell him
he's doing the wrong thing, then the courts
have no power to check the executive.
He's referring to this ongoing legal case where
a federal judge says there was a possibility
the Trump administration ignored his court order to
stop deportation flights to El Salvador last month.
You know, Emily, it seems like the left
has been struggling with how to oppose Trump
these last couple of months.
It seems the left has been struggling.
That's all you needed to say.
Boom, stop.
Full stop.
It seems like the left has been struggling
with how to oppose Trump these last couple
of months.
We haven't seen the large scale protests that
we saw during Trump's first term.
Today seems to have been kind of the
first public opposition to President Trump's second term.
I'm curious what you were tracking outside of
Washington.
These protests are happening all over the country.
There are about 1,200 of what organizers
are calling hands off mass action protests.
You know, sizable demonstrations at state capitals and
parks, city halls, etc., nationwide.
Have you heard anything from President Trump about
the protests today?
He's out playing golf at his club in
Florida today and has not given any interviews.
But the White House did say in a
statement that his position is, quote, clear.
He will always protect Social Security, Medicare and
Medicaid for eligible beneficiaries, though the statement did
not address the protests directly.
Well, why didn't they say, why didn't they
say, well, and he lied because clearly he
has taken, kicked 71 million people off of
Medicaid.
Why didn't they say that?
Yeah.
We just didn't.
We just heard the guy say that.
Bless you.
I have a report.
Wait, before we finish, I got one last
one.
Oh, sorry.
Because this was, even though it's actually 1
,300 protests, it was organized by Soros's boys.
There was a world protest too.
I don't know how they pulled this off,
but this is the world protest.
NPR reported on that too.
Anti-Trump demonstrations took place around the country
today.
Anti-Trump?
What?
Anti-Trump demonstrations in Paris.
I mean, come on.
Yes.
Anti-Trump demonstrations took place around the country
today and across Europe.
Esme Nicholson reports the protests follow Trump's new
tariffs on nearly all the goods the U
.S. imports because many worry it may threaten
prosperity and peace.
American citizens living in Berlin gathered in front
of a Tesla showroom on Saturday to demand
an end to the chaos back home.
In a message meant for Trump advisor Elon
Musk, one protester was holding a banner reading,
Shut up, Elon.
No one voted for you.
Genius.
Similar sentiment was clear at protests in Frankfurt,
Paris, and Lisbon, where signs read, Silence is
complicity.
In London, hundreds of Americans gathered in Trafalgar
Square and chanted, Hands off Canada.
It was Americans protesting in Trafalgar Square.
So it was expats who don't even live
in America.
What are you worried about?
In Trafalgar Square and chanted, Hands off Canada.
Hands off Greenland.
Hands off Ukraine.
The demonstrations come as markets have plummeted in
reaction to Trump's tariffs.
For NPR News, I'm Esme Nicholson in Berlin.
All right, I have a report on the
worldwide protests.
From Chicago to Washington, D.C., and across
the U.S., people gathered Saturday to speak
out against the Trump administration.
They protested President Trump's key initiatives, including large
-scale cuts to federal agencies and the new
slew of tariffs that have tanked global stock
markets.
Their tariffs are not only imbecilic, they're illegal,
they're unconstitutional, and we're going to turn this
around.
That's Raskin at one of these things?
They're illegal, they're unconstitutional.
Protesters also took to the streets in Paris,
London, and other European capitals.
The policies Trump is following are a threat
to the world.
The world as we have come to know
it and enjoy it.
Yeah, with cheap Chinese junk.
As very privileged Westerners.
Today, we really want to send a message
of solidarity to our friends and families back
in America.
President Trump is spending the weekend at his
Mar-a-Lago estate here in South Florida.
Some new tariffs on goods imported to the
U.S. went into effect Saturday, triggering customs
agents' collections at ports of entry.
In a post on Truth Social, the president
asked Americans to hang tough, calling the tariffs
an economic revolution.
But many consumers say they are worried.
A YouGov poll finds that just over two
-thirds of Americans think the price of goods
they typically buy will rise.
Yeah, here's the New York protest, and here's
where the union lady shows up.
Tell me what democracy looks like.
Protesters gathered in and around Bryant Park, shoes
sloshing through puddles on a rainy Saturday afternoon.
This hands-off protest is one of several
happening throughout New York City and in all
50 states, according to organizers.
This is not about efficiency.
This is about control and power.
And the destruction of the United States.
People showed up to stand up against some
of the Trump administration's latest moves, like the
implementation of tariffs, immigration operations, and reducing the
size of some federal agencies while eliminating others
altogether.
Aileen Chen is a federal worker with the
Consumer Financial Protection Bureau.
A federal judge recently blocked the Trump administration's
attempt to dismantle it.
They tried to shut down our entire agency,
and many, many, many of my coworkers were
fired.
But because we've all come together through our
really strong union, we were actually able to
get every single person reinstated.
Others say they're concerned about Elon Musk, who
has pushed policies to reduce federal spending in
his role as the head of the Department
of Government Efficiency.
The administration has said Doge's purpose is to
rid the government of waste, fraud, and abuse.
Musk has spoken about his role in trying
to dismantle USAID, which offers humanitarian aid to
countries.
This is no longer a democracy.
This is a total abuse of our freedom.
That's number one.
I could go on for a long time,
but cutting USAID, for me, has been the
most disgusting thing that this government has done.
This is so disgusting.
So I went to Hands Off 2025, and
that is a website, they say it right
there, of indivisibleindivisible.org, and you go to
join the movement, the donate part.
Indivisible is a movement of thousands of local
groups and millions of activists committed to defeating
mega-extremism, advancing progressive policies, and building a
democracy that works for us all.
Our movement is powered by people.
We do not accept funding from corporations, political
parties, or their leaders.
No, you're taking money for political parties, because
it says right there, ActBlue.
And ActBlue is the merchant of record for
ActBlue Civics, Inc.
Come on.
Which is a 501c4, which they call a
social welfare organization, but I think that means
you can lobby.
So it's politics as usual.
They create a lot of front groups, those
guys, but the left has always done this.
It's the old communist idea.
You just have a long tail.
A long tail of front groups.
One of your clips talked about the Department
of Education.
I think you received this clip as well,
but I thought it would be interesting enough
to play it.
One of our producers sent it.
This is 1980.
Ronald Reagan talking about the Department of Education,
that he wanted to get rid of it.
But tell me what you find the most
interesting in this from 1980.
I propose and would have already started, if
your hypothesis is correct, a planned and orderly
transfer back to the states and local communities
of functions the federal government has usurped and
which it has proven it is incapable of
operating.
And one of the first of those would
be welfare.
One of the second would be in the
field of education.
I would like to dissolve the $10 billion
National Department of Education created by President Carter
and turn schools back to the local school
districts where we built the greatest public school
system the world has ever seen.
I think I can make a case that
the decline in the quality of public education
began when federal aid became federal interference.
Now, what was remarkable about this?
I like the phrase federal aid became federal
interference.
It was a $10 billion.
Oh, yeah, it was $10 billion and now
it's like $250 or whatever.
$250 billion.
Yes.
I know.
I mean, there's inflation, but inflation should be
like $100 billion.
Inflation would be, but that was from about
85 or 84 when he gave that speech.
And inflation is not a 10x from there.
It would be 10x from 1970s.
So it would probably be more like $80
or $70 billion.
Instead, it's way up there.
Yeah, it's a scam.
And with that, I'd like to thank you
for your courage.
Say in the morning to you, the man
who put the sea in the cheap junk
from China.
Say hello to my friend on the other
end, the birthday boy.
Ladies and gentlemen, Mr. John C.
DeVore.
Yeah, well, good morning to you, Mr. Adam
Crane, the owner of the ship Seaboots Underground,
feeding the air, subs, and the water, and
the dames and knights out there.
Hello, dames and knights.
Hello, trolls.
How do you do?
Let's get a little time to check there.
All right.
2,405.
A little above average.
Around average.
It's kind of good.
I'd say it was average.
It's a lot of trolls.
I mean, what other show has a live
troll room?
That really, I mean, we don't have video.
We got trolls, and they're in the troll
room, and you can say whatever you want.
And people do.
Yeah, and then you can kick them off.
Like the ogre you are.
I have not done that in a while.
Should I just pick somebody and just kick
them off?
Yeah.
Who should I kick off?
Let me see if someone says something.
Come on, somebody.
Say something to make him mad.
Say something about his hair.
That'll do it.
Nobody.
No one's saying anything.
They don't.
They're so lame.
Kick me.
It's no good.
Lame.
Lame.
Should have been much faster on the draw.
Those trolls are in the troll room at
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But we also like to thank people who
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For instance, making art.
And we want to thank Scaramanga, Francisco Scaramanga,
who made – I mean, I got comments
on this one.
The episode was last – on Thursday, 1752,
we titled it Pal-Mel, trying to bring
that phrase back.
And this was a very disturbing piece of
art.
People actually got disturbed by it.
I think Darren O'Neill said, I can't
even recommend listening to this episode because this
art is so disturbing.
This was the gay dog, or at least
the dog with the rainbow shirt.
And the more I look at it, the
more I agree.
It borders on gruesome.
I don't get the gruesome part.
It's creepy.
It's creepy.
There's no doubt about that because the legs
of the dog are – the front legs
are too long, and the dog's standing there
with a rainbow shirt.
And then there was the quarter, which is
the kicker that I thought made it worthwhile.
Yes.
That was very subtle.
Very subtle.
I don't know if anyone got that, but
we thought it was – you thought it
was great.
There was comments at the big meet-up
in Oakland about this art.
Same thing.
They thought it was – they're trying to
– Steve, in fact, Crazy Steve, the guy
who does all these things.
Crazy Steve?
Who's Crazy Steve?
Crazy Steve's the guy who organizes all these
meet-ups.
Oh, you Crazy Steve.
Is that the guy who says he had
my hair?
Is that Crazy Steve?
No, no.
That guy wasn't even at this meet-up.
Oh, okay.
No, Crazy Steve's the organizer.
You know who it is.
I didn't know who Crazy Steve was.
He wants to go down and organize one
down by – in Fredericksburg.
He says, I'm going to do one in
Fredericksburg.
I'll show up.
I'll show up.
He says, I can understand why Adam didn't
show up to the other one where it's
a two-hour drive.
He's not going to do it.
No, I'm not going to do that.
No.
And I said, yeah, if you could put
one in Fredericksburg, just check to make sure
it's not in Europe.
Yes, please.
Yeah, let me know.
I mean, organizing.
Yeah, you can do it.
He'll be glad to show up.
Of course I'll go.
Of course.
Go ahead, Crazy Steve.
And so Steve was querying me about the
artwork, thinking it was – what is this?
Why?
What is this?
Well, do you think that – because you
kind of have a rule that, you know,
creepy or gruesome artwork, if it's bad for
the show, and I think that this –
Yeah, because of association.
I don't like the association.
So you see No Agenda, and then there's
some gruesome picture, and then you say, ooh,
No Agenda's bad.
But I literally had people saying they didn't
even want to listen to the episode because
of the art.
That reflects poorly on the show.
Well, that was – we made an error
then.
But I don't see it.
I think it's a funny piece.
You got a stupid dog wearing an outfit,
and he's standing there with his tongue hanging
out, and there's a quarter, and the whole
thing was dynamite.
It was a great piece.
Yes.
I thought it was good.
I liked it.
Yeah.
I liked it.
And the quarter is referenced to, you know,
the dog drives – You said that.
Someone's got to pick up the quarter.
It's like picking up soap, you know.
It's a running gay joke.
Prison gay joke, actually.
Prison gay joke.
Thank you, Scaramanga.
We were also just pleased that Scaramanga did
something that wasn't boobs.
That was kind of – that was interesting.
So at the meetup, we had a –
I think it was Sir Montauk, the guy
who's – I always call him the sticker
guy.
He always brings a set of new stickers
to the meetups.
And all the stickers, they're just little No
Agenda stickers.
He did a giant poster.
Oh?
About, I think, I'd say three feet by
two foot poster of very small versions.
Every artwork says show one or something.
Oh, that's cool.
The whole thing is just a giant, you
know, bunch of – He should talk to
NoAgendaShop.com.
Get those guys to sell a poster or
something.
Yeah, one thing, and he should send you
a copy because he framed mine because he
figured if it's rolled up art, it would
just end up in my attic, which is
where he nailed it.
Next to many other items of interest.
Yes, yeah.
Phoebe.
And so he framed it, and you could
– he could send you a rolled up
one because I'm pretty sure that you would
frame it and put it on the Wall
of – the Hall of Fame.
Yes, I have a wall in the garage.
I have in my entire – It was
in the garage.
You were taking pictures.
I think it was in the garage.
Yes, no, I moved the Wall of Fame
to the garage.
We have an oversized garage because the guy
who we bought the house from, he's a
retailer, and he had, like, ATM machines and
all kinds of – just all kinds of
gear, so it's – No, I used the
garage as storage.
No, well, we have very – no, our
garage is very clean.
Have you met my wife?
It's very clean, very organized.
I met you.
Same thing.
It's not storage, but I did make one
wall just like, you know, like the old
– No, I'm talking about the guy, original
guy, putting ATM machines there.
He's using it as storage.
Oh, yes, he was.
Yeah, storage, and he had, you know, like
a golf cart in there and other gear.
So it's really a three-and-a-half
-car garage, I guess.
So we don't have three cars.
It is ready for the flying car, though.
When that comes, I can park it in
my garage.
Anyway, yes, I will hang that on my
– I will frame it and hang it
on my wall.
I'd love to.
Other pieces of art.
You know, the – so Scaramanga also did
the Podfather Awards.
You probably saw that.
He's been trying – he's been doing videos
of you and me.
I look disturbingly – so you look like
you, but I look a bit like –
who's the actor?
Ed Begley, Jr. I don't know if I
like it.
Well, that's not a good look.
No, and thank you very much to Daniel
J.
Lewis.
Daniel J.
Lewis.
A lot of people like this idea.
I'm just going to say it again.
I knew that you were going to work
on it, and I know it was –
you only had a couple days, but I'm
sure you'll be working very hard on the
Podfather Awards this week.
He was – I can't believe we didn't
do this.
He got the domain name for us, PodfatherAwards
.com.
Hello.
How stupid am I that I didn't register
that right away?
Very funny.
Yeah.
The classic.
Phoebe.
Phoebe.
She's mad.
She's mad that you didn't get the thing,
and you're humiliating yourself on the air.
No, she's mad about the microphone company.
That's what she's mad about.
I can tell – it's all right, Phoebe.
You'll get your microphone.
Well, you know, it's a tariff situation.
We had to see how that shook out.
Well, true.
The tariffs could be a big problem.
I'm glad we didn't start that company.
We'd be broke.
Maybe not.
Now it's time.
Was there anything else that we like?
There's a lot of toilet art.
Yeah, the talking toilets.
There was – really, you know, that little
dog stood out, I thought.
That did it, yeah.
There were a couple other gay dogs.
A lot of gay dogs.
A lot of gay dogs.
There's a couple of dogs walking down the
aisle at Dropko's male dog wedding.
Yeah, yeah.
A lot of gay dogs.
Stop with the gay dogs.
The gummy bear Jesus.
We both thought that was a little sacrilegious
in a way.
Yeah, it was little.
Well, the one that – yes, it was
a little over the top.
But you know what?
A lot of these make it into –
are those the Geiger counters you have?
The one that digital 2112 man made?
You see that one, the Geiger counter?
Is that the kind of Geiger next to
the boomer humor fart cushion?
No, not at all.
It's nothing like that.
That kind of looks – if they were
like that, I'd get one.
That looks pretty cool.
No, the ones that I have are better
looking.
So anyway, thank you all very much.
A lot of these pieces show up in
our chapter art, which you can enjoy on
the Modern Podcast apps.
If you use it in your car, it'll
even change while you're driving.
Yeah, so you can get into a wreck.
No, you're not going to get into a
wreck.
It's entertainment for the entire population of your
vehicle.
Noagendaartgenerator.com.
Everybody can participate.
It's what makes it so good.
Anybody can jump in.
And it's good to see the artists working
hard.
Some AI.
Some use AI in the appropriate manner, according
to Buzzkill Jr., which is as a tool.
Because you really need talent to be able
to make something, no matter what tools you
use.
You know, Buzzkill Jr. was at the event.
And he got into a discussion about AI
because he's doing work for banks.
And they just brought up the topic of
– my eyes are glazing over.
But they brought up the topic of trying
to do some of the same stuff in
Europe.
And he goes on and on and on
and on and on about how, well, you've
got to register this.
And if you do this, you've got to
do that.
And then you've got to be licensed and
do for anything.
So all the hoops you've got to jump
through to do the same work in Europe,
which is just to look for bank fraud.
He says it's not worth even doing any
work in Europe.
He says it's just not worth the trouble
because it's just too many regulations.
And it brought to mind – yeah.
And they're going to compete with us in
social networking or anything else.
They can't do it.
They can't get anything done.
No, they can't.
The Europeans are screwed up.
Well, they're trying to be protectionists.
And it's going to retard their economy, if
I can put it that way.
It will retard their economy.
So as I said, we thank everybody, $50
and above.
We'd like to break here for the executive
and associate executive producers who come in with
$200 or above.
You're an associate executive producer.
You get a credit for the rest of
your life as associate executive producer of episode
1753 of the award-winning and best podcast
in the universe.
No Agenda show.
You can use it anywhere.
Hollywood credits are accepted.
If you're a member of a guild, you
can say, here it is.
I got another credit.
Or imdb.com, which is almost as good
as being a member of the guild.
$300 and above.
We will read your note.
And you get the title of executive producer.
And we'll start it off with Ronald Lafferty,
who comes in with $1,000.
Top executive producer.
And a handwritten note.
Hello, John and Adam.
I'm just sending you some treasure to help
you keep the sad puppy away.
Love the show.
One of your producers, Sir Ronald Lafferty.
And he did not ask for a title
upgrade, but he is entitled to it.
But until then, thank you very much, Ronald.
We really appreciate that.
That is a nice birthday present for John.
David Fugazotto, our buddy in Gladstone, Missouri.
He says, great Commodore switcheroo, please.
This is for the indomitable Dame Melody Fugazotto,
U.S. Navy retired, who of all people
should be at Commodore.
That's right.
Most definitely.
She's the admiral of my heart.
Happy birthday, John, and thank you for your
courage.
Beautiful.
Good to hear from you guys.
Then we have Cheeky and Anonymous Seeking the
Middle.
Interesting name.
From Bedford, Massachusetts, 500.
Second part of donation from sale of our
home in the corrupt Communist Commonwealth of Massachusetts.
I think we gave him some karma for
that.
We sadly felt compelled to cash out of
our overpriced, under-socialized, if you did not
have TDS, only a small circle of patriots
to hang with, family home for our once
beloved, thought to be adopted home of Bedford,
Massachusetts.
We can't entirely give up on the Northeast,
but I still work out of Boston and
we play, teach kids skiing and love winter
in the best mountain town in the East
in Vermont.
Communist, but only dopey there, not corrupt.
We think we decided on our red area
safe house in a relatively affordable area in
the Black Hills of South Dakota.
So this $500 is for all the sanity,
laughs, and perspective you have added to our
lives since I discovered you during COVID, courtesy
of Scott Adams, when you got along.
Did we have a feud with Scott Adams?
No.
I don't think so.
I think he got called out on the
show some time ago for his vax stance,
which suddenly changed.
He's a hypnotist.
He could turn us around in a second.
I still like Scott.
He adds to the mental toolbox along with
you guys and a few others.
You guys, though, rock.
Please provide peace and love and get well
karma and an appropriate jingle, if you have
one, for everybody's family, friends, and colleagues afflicted
with TDS and all trophy trans children being
raised by Munchausen syndrome by proxy.
My goodness.
Yeah, you know, somebody brought that up in
a – I saw this in some chat
or something, or maybe it was online.
I never recorded it.
But, yeah, they think that it's a version
of Munchausen by proxy, which is kind of
a weird psychological disorder where you constantly hurt
yourself to get attention, and now it's been
transferred to turning your kids trans to get
attention to yourself.
Regards, Cheeky and Anonymous, Seeking the Middle, formerly
of Bedford.
Well, yes, I have something appropriate for you.
Oh, there's no winning.
We don't like to foster a competitive atmosphere,
but we laugh a lot.
Now everyone hug and share a secret.
You've got karma.
Classic.
Yes.
Jordan Johnson in Schertz.
Schertz?
Schertz.
Schertz.
Yeah, Schertz.
Schertz, Texas.
Schertz, man.
Schertz.
In the morning, long-time listener, first-time
donor, please give this credit to my –
this is a switcheroo to my smoking-hot
wife, Brittany.
Brittany Johnston.
Brittany is turning 40 years old April 5th.
Hey, it's my birthday.
Would you please put her on the birthday
list she's on?
Yep.
I've had the hots for my wife since
the moment I laid eyes on her.
Oh, nice.
She's bright and shining.
She's a bright and shining diamond.
A light in the darkness and a terrific
cook.
Win.
Win.
She's given us five beautiful human resources.
I always – I just – I won't
bring it up.
What?
You know, women who like to cook are
– What?
You know, most women kill their husbands by
poisoning them.
I always tell that, Winston.
You like to cook?
I say, yeah, I do all the cooking
in the house.
And that's the reason I do it.
Okay.
It just comes to mind.
I'm sorry.
I think it's true.
I'm with you.
Women who like to cook are dangerous.
They're dangerous because they can drop into, you
know, something.
This tip from your No Agenda show.
It's tip of the moment.
Tip of the moment.
Life-saving tip.
She has given us five beautiful human resources.
Jack, Margo, Phoebe, Owen, and Carly.
Carly.
Oh, I'm sorry.
It looks like a T on here.
And she homeschools them.
Oh, this woman is very busy.
Yeah.
And she cooks.
Yeah, be careful.
After homeschooling five kids, she might kill you.
Yeah.
I give thanks to God every day that
she is mine.
Her faith is what changed our family for
generations to come.
Happy birthday, Brittany.
I love you with all my heart.
And happy birthday to you, too, John.
Brittany adores you.
She's a good woman.
Yeah.
And she probably won't poison you.
For jiggles, it says.
I'm pretty sure I read that right.
It says jiggles.
Yes, it says jiggles.
Yeah, yeah.
Could we please hear a little I've Got
Ants?
Thank you both for the best podcast in
the universe.
Four more years, says Jordan.
All right, Jordan.
Thank you very much.
We will play a little bit of I've
Got Ants for Brittany.
I've Got Ants.
I've Got Ants.
I'll give you a karma, too, while we're
at it.
You've Got Karma.
Add a little extra spice there for you.
Sir Lawrence is in Oakland, California.
And he comes in with 333.33. He's
in blue.
So that means something's up with him.
And he has a note here, which I
shall grab ahold of.
I believe he's at the meetup.
Oh, okay.
Well, here we go.
Nice.
This is from.
It looks like it was a typewriter.
Typewritten.
It says 333.33 plus baronet.
Oh, baronet.
There we go.
ITM, gentlemen.
When you read this letter, John's birthday extravaganza
will be in the rearview mirror.
It's in the rearview.
I have no doubts it will be.
It will have been off the proverbial his
all.
And added some great memories to John's already
large volume of 93.
Sorry.
73 years worth.
That was an honest mistake.
Can I get a jobs karma?
And I love my truck.
And I love what I do.
I just started with a new company that
got awarded the elevator contract in my building.
And asked me to change shirts.
As they still provide a vehicle stipend.
I got myself a 2024 Ford F-150
STX with a super cab.
Extended cab.
It's more money for less work.
And I got a truck that hauls balls
with a turbo V6.
Lastly, this donation makes me a baronet.
Does this mean that I am to be
called Sir Lawrence Baronet of Dystopia?
Or could I be Sir Lawrence of Dystopia
Baronet of Maxwell Park?
Inquiring minds want to know.
Well, you're in charge of that, John.
I think he can do whatever he wants.
Give him the first title.
Okay.
It will be Sir Lawrence Baronet of Dystopia.
Very good.
Adios mofos and 73s, John.
Get it.
Oh, he is Kilo Oscar 6 Echo Juliet
Echo.
73s.
Kilo 5 Alpha Charlie Charlie.
Give me the truck.
I'll do the jobs.
I love my truck.
And I love what I do.
Jobs.
Jobs.
Jobs.
And jobs.
Let's vote for jobs.
You thought.
Karma.
I think Sir Lawrence is part of the
team of people that were talking about how
they avoided getting vaxxed.
Oh, one of those guys, huh?
It was like, there's a bunch of them.
They all have their different stories.
Of course.
Everyone has a story.
It was horrible.
Horrible time.
Steve Brock in Springfield, Missouri, 280.08. Steven
Wright donation.
Steve Brock.
Wow.
Springfield, Missouri.
Nice.
Nice.
Steven Brock in Springfield, Missouri.
Please call out Bob from Springfield for still
being a douchebag.
Douchebag.
And he'd like to hear China is asshole
and French bulldog karma.
Thanks.
China is asshole.
You thought.
Karma.
Now, check this out.
Anonymous from Charlotte, North Carolina, 263.57, associate
executive producer.
And he says, or she, please accept this
Steven Wright donation.
Well, this is amazing.
That's the old random number theory.
Random number theory.
It happens all the time.
And it's like, can't be avoided.
Thank you both for what you do.
Anonymous, an elder Gen Xer who appreciates boomer
humor.
Right now I'm scoring big on this.
I love it.
I yeah.
Well, it was like one of the memes
I had.
The newsletter was like, got a lot of
attention.
Which one was that?
It's the one that says there she was
walking down the street.
And then there's pictures and you have to
kind of figure out what, what these, what
it means, what does it mean?
And boomer humor.
Got it.
And some people didn't boomer humor, boomer humor,
baby.
Cassia.
Grizzly.
Grizzly.
Grizzly.
Grizzly.
Grizzly.
Grizzly.
Grizzly.
Grizzly.
And Cape Coral, Florida.
Two, two, two, two, two.
Hi guys.
It's exactly the way it's written.
This donation is for our son, Adam.
18 years ago at exactly 903 PM in
Bethlehem, Pennsylvania.
This amazing human entered the world.
Adam came into our lives and made our
hearts expand in ways we never imagined.
He's a living, breathing piece of our souls
that we've gently sent out into the world,
praying he'd find joy, spread kindness and leave
the world a better place than he found
it.
That's a lot of, a lot of stuff
there for him to do.
Yes.
You're putting a lot of responsibility on the
kid's shoulders.
Stop it.
Stop it.
He's our life's greatest creation.
Not a project, but a masterpiece.
Shaped by love, lessons, laughter and fears.
Tears.
Love.
Tears.
Not fears.
What'd I say?
Fears?
Fears.
They scared the kid.
I love you, Adam.
Pronunciation.
No, A-dash.
No, it's A-dash.
That's his nickname.
Oh, A-dash.
Look at A-dash.
It's never been Adam.
It's always been A-dash.
Yes.
I love you, A-dash.
Pronunciation.
Oh, it's in Polish.
But that's not Polish.
It's A-dash.
A-dash.
A-dash.
How about that?
A-dash.
Yeah.
Does the Polish Bible say Adam and A
-dash and Eva?
Inquiring minds like to know.
Polish Bible's in Latin.
Mom and Dad, thanks guys.
Kasia.
Pronounce.
Kaj.
Kasha.
Kasha.
Kasha.
And then.
Grejleka.
I got that part right.
I didn't get the Kasha right.
Oh, I got that wrong.
P.S. Southwest Florida really needs a meetup
already.
It's been too long.
We have Floridians that do these things.
Yeah, but one of them abruptly quit.
Oh, no.
Yeah, this happened a while ago.
Oh, that's our girl, right?
Yeah.
And I've even reached out to her and
she's like, can't talk about it.
Thanks for reaching out.
Oh, I wonder what happened.
She can't talk about it.
I think it's something with her work.
Like the agency wasn't happy with it or
something.
Just guessing.
Oh, that could be.
Just guessing.
Government interference with the No Agenda Show.
James von Weinsbergen.
Sun City, Florida.
Sun City, Florida.
222.22. Rove ducks, switcheroo.
In the morning, gentlemen, happy belated birthday to
John.
I know this note is long, but someone's
getting knighted today.
Someone's getting knighted and someone's getting cornholed.
Accounting below.
With this third rove duxonation, if you couldn't
kick in the penny.
Oh, hold on a second.
You need a penny, man?
I'll kick in a penny.
Where's the penny?
There we go.
Please.
Yes, that put us over the top.
I'd like to switcheroo my tithings and bequeath
this knighthood to my dad, Marty.
All right.
Switch.
Okay.
So does it stay James, but Marty gets
the knighthood?
What do you think here, John?
Yeah, Marty gets the knighthood.
Of course he does.
But James stays the associate executive producer?
Yeah, yes.
I would think that would be correct.
Okay.
Okay.
So I'd like to switcheroo my tithings and
bequeath this knighthood to my dad, Marty.
And request that his knight name be henceforth
known as Sir Marty von Weinsbergen of the
Coachella Valley.
He's always been my hero since I understood
what that meant.
And he was recently dealt a potential cancer
diagnosis.
I'm so proud of his bravery in the
face of this and request an F cancer
jiggle.
This is another random number theory.
A jiggle.
It's a jingle, people.
And a goat karma to counter this.
Okay.
I love you, Dad.
I'm very blessed to be your son.
And now you got this.
I know you got it.
Let me do that again.
I'm butchering this.
I love you, Dad.
I'm very blessed to be your son.
And I know you got this.
There we go.
He'd appreciate some Belgian frietkorte and a cold,
unsweetened Mountain Dew, which, of course, doesn't exist,
for the roundtable.
For the time being, I'm still a slave
to the system.
So, if I could request an F35 karma
to include a what in the world tagline
to help me acquire the property and DOD
-affiliated employment.
Oh, man.
I need to build my final home and
Waco-esque compound in North Carolina.
I'd greatly appreciate it.
Thank you for your courage.
And four more years.
Okay.
So, we need to.
He needed the jobs karma.
And was there something else?
What else was there?
Was there something else?
Did I forget something here?
Goat.
You want a goat.
Yeah.
Oh, okay.
So, I can do that.
An F cancer.
You want an F cancer.
Okay.
So, I'll throw in the goat with the.
Okay.
I can do it.
I can do this.
I can do this.
You've got karma.
Oh, it didn't do the what in the
world is this.
And that wasn't the goat.
That was that guy.
No, I did the goat.
I did the goat.
You sure that was goat?
I thought that was that screaming guy.
It sounds.
Here, listen.
I said, what in the world is this?
That's the guy.
And that's the goat.
Geez.
Sorry I asked.
And I prayed for Marty.
You got it.
Sean Holman in Noblesville, Indiana, 21911.
Stealth arms is foam finger number one.
Customize your platypus today.
Oh, here we go.
It's back to stealtharms.net.
God's blessings and peace to all, including the
spooks.
Hey, well, spooks like the platypus, I guess.
And spooks like to listen.
Of course they do.
Oops, sorry.
I didn't mean to do that.
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Easy on the domain name mentions, but I
like all the other properties.
Don't make me start editing this.
Tighten it up.
Tighten it up, people.
Hey, isn't that great where we get to
bitch at the advertisers?
It's an upside down world.
That's exactly the way it's supposed to be.
It's the world made right.
The world is good.
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Sales Karma.
You want Sales Karma JD Hot Pockets.
That's a good note.
That's a very good note.
Hot Pockets.
There we go.
You thought.
Karma.
Joel Sides is in Medina, Texas, 21060.
Happy birthday, John.
If only the dinosaurs could have lived this
long.
They might still be around.
Don't feel left out.
The rest of us are not far behind.
Thank you, Joel.
It's for your birthday.
QGenex Count Steven of Windsor or Winder.
Steven of Winder.
Winder.
Winder in Oswego, Illinois.
Steven Wright donation.
Wow.
Third one.
How about that?
That's insane.
We sometimes spend hours thinking about what kind
of promotion can we do?
And then an offhanded obscure comment about Steven
Wright scores.
It's unbelievable.
Yeah.
It was pretty.
And it was just a screwball toss away.
It was a toss away.
It's remarkable.
It's truly remarkable.
I tell you.
Steven Wright donation.
Solidly Gen X Count Steven of Winder like
a clock.
And the Great Smoky Mountains.
Boom.
That's easy.
Eli the Coffee Guy.
Bensonville, Illinois.
204.07. Happy birthday, John.
I can't wait to hear your next episode
of DH Unplugged.
This Monday will either be a bloodbath in
the markets or a fantastic rebound.
Either way, it will make for a good
show on Tuesday.
That's right.
DH Unplugged live with John C.
Dvorak and Andrew Horowitz.
You listen to Andrew go off.
It is somewhat entertaining, I have to admit.
It's pretty funny.
I've gotten some fantastic stock tips listening to
you and Horowitz.
Thank you.
My investment advice to everyone is go long
on quality coffee at a great price.
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Eli the Coffee Guy.
Now, that's ad copy right there.
Very good.
That's copy.
I like that.
He always tells his tale.
He has a story that prefaces everything.
He could work for Young and Rubicam.
I'm telling you.
He's great.
Before we get to the last one here,
I got a note.
I don't have the note in front of
me, but it's from one of our producers.
He's in advertising.
You may have gotten this.
He's in advertising.
He's bemoaning the fact that we're bitching and
moaning about pharmaceutical ads.
We went through this whole conversation not two
shows ago.
On the show.
Well, we've talked about this, but did we
talk about this guy?
Yes.
Do it again.
Well, I'm just saying he was bitching and
moaning, and he said that we should back
off, and I don't understand how he could
be this way.
Yeah, we had this whole conversation.
Did we?
This is how it begins.
Yeah, well, this is the second thing to
go.
What's the first?
Short-term memories.
Second thing to go.
What's the first?
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Hey, let's talk about the plague of smartphones.
Okay, who did a report on this?
Because I agree, it is a plague.
It is a plague on smartphones.
Yeah, it's got some information in here you'd
like.
Yeah, probably.
I believe this was on NPR, but let's
listen.
This is four clips discussing smartphones with an
expert from some podunk university who is an
expert on how it screws us up.
Many of us are addicted to the little
computer that fits inside our pocket.
The average American spends up to five hours
a day on their smartphone, according to research.
But sending texts, surfing the internet, or endlessly
doom scrolling through social media releases hormones that
literally stress our bodies and our minds.
We've talked about how important it is to
restrict screen time for kids, but what about
for you, for adults?
And what can you do if you want
to be less tied to your phone?
Larry Rosen is a professor emeritus at California
State University, Dominguez.
Well, we can stop the whole sequence of
clips right now.
The answer is be like John.
Put your phone in the drawer.
Done.
Larry Rosen is a professor emeritus at California
State University, Dominguez Hills, where he studies the
psychological impacts of technology on our lives.
His latest book is The Distracted Mind, Ancient
Brains in a High-Tech World.
Larry Rosen, thanks so much for talking with
us.
Thanks for having me.
I start with that title of your book.
Our minds are ancient.
They've gotten to this point after thousands and
thousands of years of evolution, and I got
my first smartphone in 2007.
Why is that important, worth pointing out?
Well, part of it is our brains can
handle a certain amount of information.
And we're pretty good at it, and we've
had these qualities since the cavemen.
One of the problems is the smartphone in
particular offers you so much from just your
pocket that it's very distracting, and it doesn't
give you time to process information that you
really need to process.
I rarely send Joe Rogan a guest suggestion.
This sounds like the guy he should talk
to.
I already know I'm going to like this
guy.
I found it interesting that the average person
with a smartphone spends five and a half
hours a day.
Oh, that's average.
Oh, absolutely.
Absolutely.
Now, some of it, it's screen time.
It's screen time.
But it's not all folly.
Some of it is sending…
Oh, yeah, he's checking your email because you're
so important.
Sending important text messages to the group.
The grid's going down.
JFK Jr. is alive.
He's going to be VP.
Yes.
Fun word.
When I look at the stats on my
phone, I've used it.
It says an average this week of five
hours and 23 minutes a day, which according
to the research looks like I'm pretty average,
right?
So what does the science say about what
that's doing to my body and to my
mind or to anyone who spends that much
time on a phone?
So we started talking about addiction.
And I want to throw in another term,
which is obsession.
Obsession is an anxiety-based system.
So in your brain and body, you have
chemicals all over the place.
And one of the areas that you have
chemicals is called the adrenal gland.
And anytime that you get stressed at all,
that's because the adrenal gland has dumped some
chemicals into your brain.
And the one that everybody knows is called
cortisol.
So what happens to people, and you're right,
this is not just kids.
This is everybody.
You do a task on your phone.
You message somebody.
You go on social media.
Whatever it is you do, whatever your poison
is.
And then you're done.
And you come back and do something else.
But while you're doing that something else, the
cortisol is dripping in there.
It's indicating that you're anxious.
So wait a minute.
Let me just jump in here and ask
you this because what I'm hearing you say
is that using our phones releases a hormone,
cortisol.
It literally stresses us out.
So why do we use it?
Yeah, baby.
It's good stuff.
So now as I'm listening to this, I
realize that when I first went to the
idea of putting the phone in a drawer,
which actually began by accident because of T
-Mobile screwing up my order for a renewal.
And I got so irked about it, I
decided to go in a different direction.
I stopped using them altogether.
Thanks, T-Mobile.
Thanks, T-Mobile.
Another one.
And so I ended up putting the phone
in the drawer for a while.
And then after it took me, it was
maybe two or three weeks that I realized
that after having the phone in the drawer
was actually great.
Beneficial.
And so I stretched it out to went
for one year.
That's when I talked to the tellers at
the bank about this.
And they all thought it was great that
I could do that.
Now it's gone for two years.
I pretty much keep the phone in the
drawer.
I have pulled it out on occasion for
one thing or another, like to get an
Uber car, for example.
I'll use it for that.
But it goes back in the drawer.
I didn't have it at the meetup yesterday.
But you text, but you text from the
computer, right?
I text from the computer using Google Voice.
And do you feel that you're behind the
computer a lot for the texting?
No.
Most of the time I don't have it
open.
I usually only go to that text page
once or twice a week just before the
show.
To text me.
Newsletter.
To text you or to text Mimi.
Mimi's always saying, you got to go look
at your text.
I said, what?
It's on Gmail.
Or not Gmail, but the Google Voice.
Google Voice.
And okay.
So I open it up and there's a
bunch of messages.
But I'm not like tagging it ever.
Well, you also don't have a lot of
people who want to text you.
I mean, that's a good thing.
Well, you know what?
You know why?
You have no friends?
If you're not online, you're not hanging out,
you're not on the phone, you're not in
the group, you're not contributing to these chats,
they stop texting you because they know you're
not there.
You've got the phone in the drawer.
Yeah, but don't you feel left out of
the group?
No, I don't.
That's the great thing about it.
I don't feel that way at all.
And this is why the lib joes don't
talk to you anymore.
Because you left the group.
See, I like being an Android green bubble
because then people just look at me and
scorn.
I'm an outsider.
You know, that was interesting because you mentioned
that.
There are people still out there and people
with common sense.
Because I took this phone to a dinner
recently because I had to get an Uber
ride back because I didn't want to drink
and then drive home.
Right.
So I had the phone with me and
somebody, a good friend of mine, looks at
the phone and says, what is that?
And I says, the phone.
What is that thing?
He says, is that an Android phone?
And he was like, with disdain.
Are you a tech guy?
I can't believe you have that kind of
phone.
And it really is that it still exists,
this Apple iPhone bigotry.
Yes, yes.
I thought they would have gone away by
now.
It makes no sense to me.
What difference does it make?
I think that, you know, my flip phone,
people think it's cool.
Yeah, well, we're coming to that, by the
way, in these clips.
That's why these clips are here.
All right.
Number three.
Yeah.
So why do we use it?
What happens is we feel compelled, we feel
obsessed with keeping up with things.
And we don't want to miss out on
something because a lot of social activities that
you might want to be involved in are
on, say, TikTok.
So this chemical cortisol in larger and larger
quantities makes you feel anxious.
And it's the same kind of anxiety as
if you were going to get up and
speak to an audience.
Your palms sweat, your pits sweat, your stomach
has butterflies, and you just feel weird.
You just feel uncomfortable.
That's the cortisol working.
Hmm.
Okay.
Yes, I believe that.
Now, from there, they go into a part
I cut out all the rest of this.
Well, can I ask a question?
Because, I mean, it's not just the phone.
It's what you have on the phone, which
would be social media, feeling left out of
the news cycle.
So it's not just the phone.
Heaven forbid you miss a headline.
Yeah, or a great TikTok video.
So they had a – I get those
from Twitter.
I know.
And so they had a long exhibition of
ways of breaking free from the phone by
putting it – there's a bunch of exercises
that none of them made any sense to
me except putting the phone in the drawer,
which they don't bring that up.
And so it goes on.
I figured that was going to be my
last clip.
And then they come up with the flip
phone stuff.
Here we go with the last clip.
All right.
Some people have moved to old-fashioned flip
phones.
Larry, what do you think about that?
Is that a good solution?
You know, people have tried lots of solutions.
They've tried taking people up to the mountains
for a weekend without your phones at all.
They've tried having you get a flip phone
that basically acts as a dumb phone.
And none of it has worked.
Which is why this all feels so out
of our control.
You mentioned control.
We know that tech companies making this product
are doing everything they can to keep us
tied to that device.
So I can see, we talked about addiction,
I can see a path to quitting alcohol
or tobacco.
I do not see how we collectively separate
ourselves from this technology.
What are your thoughts?
I don't think we have to separate ourselves
from the technology.
I think awareness is critical.
And the first part of awareness is looking
at the screen time data and going, oh,
my God, I didn't realize I was on
so many hours.
What can I cut back on?
So what you have to do is recognize
that it's going to be uncomfortable for a
while.
But as long as you stick with it
and do those tech breaks where you get
to look at your phone every 15 to
30 minutes, you're going to feel like, oh,
okay, I'm in good shape.
I can focus for 30 minutes, talk to
my spouse, watch a movie, whatever, and it's
not going to make me crazy.
Yeah, this guy, I mean, this is not
new.
He's given me nothing.
I'm not excited by what he's saying.
That's because he doesn't have the phone in
the drawer.
He is all in.
He's also addicted.
Oh, yeah.
This is like talking, you know, just like
people.
Everybody's in denial about this problem, including the
expert.
Yeah, I'm going to cancel that invitation to
Rogan.
You just got uninvited, bro.
Now, that was a little disappointing because I
thought that he would have a lot more.
But this is not new information other than
he wrote a book about it.
Just stop it.
I mean, I leave my phone in the
studio.
And at a set time, you know, maybe,
I don't know, maybe after dinner, I'll go
take a look.
Is there anything now?
Okay, and that's usually just is anything that's
happening that's important, you know, with the show
or whatever.
But I try to keep everything in one
room.
And when I go out, all I have,
and when I go out, I'm only having,
I have the flip phone.
I will say I'm excited about the Light
Phone 3.
Is it the Light Phone 3 or the
Light Phone?
Hold on a second.
I pre-ordered one.
It should be shipping.
Because the problem with the flip phone is,
I mean, I might as well not text
because my writing has retarded significantly.
You know, the screen is small.
I don't see the mistakes.
There's some autocorrect in there.
And, of course, I have Dutch and English
dictionary, so it's throwing out entire words in
Dutch.
I don't see it.
It was just dumb.
I mean, people, I insult people without intending
to, like saying horrible things.
Oh, yeah, it's no good.
But the Light Phone 3, I really think
this might be the one.
I had the Light Phone 2, which is
really tiny and it has a, you know,
it's not easy to use.
The Light Phone 3 should be a good
texting machine.
And it has a camera.
I like that.
But you can't get the – there's no
web browser, there's no e-mail.
It has some of the things you need
a phone for, like navigation, handy, podcasts, hello,
music, phone, text, and I think that's it,
and a flashlight.
What more do you need in a phone?
I don't know.
Mine's in the drawer.
Well, you should write a book.
I don't know what I'd say.
A very short book.
Put your phone in a drawer.
Cold turkey, man, cold turkey.
All you need to do is put a
big gold star on the front, instant bestseller.
Instant bestseller.
It has one page.
Put your phone in a – no, oh,
you know what you do?
Remember our buddy, the Holobook guy, freeholobooks.com?
Yeah.
How to get rid of your phone addiction.
You open the book and you put your
phone in the book.
Put the phone in there.
And close it.
Now, that's a premium item.
And then put it up in the bookshelf.
Yeah, that's a good idea.
The ultimate guide to getting rid of your
phone.
And you open it up and it's just
a hole.
You put your phone in and put it
on the bookshelf.
That's a great gag gift, yeah.
Yeah, I think it's a good gift.
I like it.
Well, speaking of addiction, there's a lawsuit against
the major bookmakers.
These guys, they are – I think females,
women, girls, I think they get very addicted
to the social nature, the texting in particular
of the phone.
Young boys, ooh, boy.
In January of 2025 alone, Maryland bettors wagered
more than $457 million on DraftKings and FanDuel.
That's according to a new complaint filed Thursday
by the city of Baltimore against two sportsbooks
alleging misleading tactics.
They'll call me and say, like, we have
this promotion and blah, blah, blah.
And we see you haven't bet in a
while, so they do stuff like that, yeah.
The city accuses them of engaging in deceptive
and unfair practices to target and exploit vulnerable
Baltimore users, using algorithms to keep problem gamblers
betting, as well as misleading promotions like bonus
bets and no-sweat bets to create compulsive
gambling behavior.
The complaint reads, defendants are not interested in
people merely dipping their toes in the water.
They want bettors to bet in significant amounts
over and over.
Some get hooked, and that's the point.
The law firm representing the city tells 11
News the sportsbooks are in violation of the
Consumer Protection Ordinance.
If they don't see you wagering quickly enough,
they'll reach out to you and say, well,
you've been a little quiet.
We're going to put a couple hundred dollars
in your account, have at it.
So they do all these things to bring
you closer and closer to them.
The Maryland Center of Excellence on Problem Gambling
encourages folks to set a budget and time
limits before opening up a sports betting app.
Yeah, I believe this to be completely true.
I do, too, because it's a known fact
that people can easily be addicted to gambling.
I can't get this idea out of my
head.
You guys got a publishing company.
You got toomanyeggs.com.
Let's do a book.
Here's the book I want to do with
you.
Adam Curry, John C.
Dvorak, The No Agenda Show, Guide to Getting
Rid of Your Phone Addiction.
You're back on that.
Yes, it's a great idea.
It'd be a hollow book.
Yes, this is one you can actually execute
on.
Well, the problem with the hollow book is
it's mass-producing the hollow book.
It's not a problem.
I think it is.
You're so lazy.
No, it's not a matter of laziness in
this case.
Besides that, Jay does all the work for
that publishing company, not me.
Well, tell Jay about it.
She's not lazy, I can assure you.
Tell Jay about it.
I'm telling you right in advance that unless
we can find somebody in China, which is
now going to be impossible, can do hollow
books and mass-produce them, because that would
sell at least anywhere from 5,000 to
25,000 copies, depending on what time of
the year it is.
This is a crazy thought, just a crazy
thought.
Ready?
I'm going to blow you away with my
crazy thought.
I am convinced, without even doing the research,
that there is an American company that can
do these at scale, and they'd be happy
to.
And someone knows them, and they're listening to
this show right now.
Okay.
We're America, man.
We don't need China.
We're good at messaging through this show for
marketing purposes.
We will sell.
There's no doubt about it.
We will sell, sell, sell.
Sell.
Sell, I tell you.
And if not, we'll always get our guy
Rutte to sell for us, because, man, he
is still out there selling us.
As I said last week in Warsaw, I
know there has been some tough language.
I know that there have been allies, for
example, on this side of the pond, being
worried about the long-term commitment of the
U.S. to NATO.
And I was in the White House, but
before I went to the White House, we
had President Macron there and Prime Minister Starmer,
and on so many other occasions.
Don't worry.
The U.S. is not going to leave
NATO.
The Americans have stated again and again, we
are committed to NATO, we are committed to
Article 5.
This commitment comes with a clear expectation, Spend
more on our stuff.
On this side of the Atlantic and Canada,
we will spend more, commit that we will
deliver on the 2%, and then move upwards
because of these gaps we still have in
this part.
5%, everybody.
Of NATO to deliver on all the targets.
And that's the process we are in the
middle of.
And in the meantime, the hundreds of billions
are rolling in as we speak.
This is, this is, he has brown shoes.
They say the hundreds of billions are what?
The hundreds of billions are rolling in as
we speak.
It's great.
In the meantime, the hundreds of billions are
rolling in as we speak.
Where are they rolling into?
That will continue, no doubt, over the coming
days and weeks is my expectation.
And we have to do this because of
the Russian threat.
No.
And because of the increasing China.
Russia, China.
Threat.
So let's not be naive about that.
No.
But I'm absolutely convinced this alliance is there
to stay with the US.
Their commitment is absolutely clear.
We want to do more together in the
Pacific even.
And we want to work on many issues,
including in the Arctic.
And I think that is also positive.
NATO is North Atlantic Treaty Organization, but we're
going to do more in the Pacific.
So it will be IPTO, IPTO, a new
organization, IPTO, Indo-Pacific Trade Organization, something.
Okay.
And remember, there's more.
When it comes to China.
China.
It's important.
Let's be totally clear about this.
Yes, be clear.
We know that they help and support the
Russia's war efforts through war effort, through sanctions
or conventions, through delivery of dual use goods.
So they are an integral part of the
war effort.
And now North Korea.
Oh, no.
Sending its soldiers to Europe.
Oh, no.
To fight a war here.
Oh, no.
We know that Russians are repaying them, not
only with money, but also with technology, which.
And hookers.
In the end is also posing a threat
to the United States and to the whole
of NATO territory and to the Indo-Pacific.
Oh, no.
Iran involved, very much involved, and getting money
from the Russians, by which they then.
Wait, wait.
The Russians are giving money to Iran?
Can stir up even more trouble in the
Middle East, as the Iranians love to do
directly and through their proxies in Lebanon.
Man, this guy just can't stop talking.
He's the best.
He's the best.
He's a yak machine.
Proxies in Gaza and Lebanon.
So this is really a global issue.
Global.
Global.
And when it comes to MH17, this is
very close to my heart and many in
my country and in Australia, because, as you
know, Australia was the second.
Now he's bringing in MH17.
As you know, the Russians killed all those
people on MH17.
Not conclusive.
Hardest hit country with many people dying in
MH17, in that terrible disaster on the 17th
of July, 2014.
196 from my country.
And that means that I'm now not in
the national government, but this is clearly a
position the Dutch government has always stated, and
I have no reason to think that has
changed.
Okay.
Wonderful.
So he brings up the threats, many threats.
And Netanyahu was in Hungary, and he talked
about some threats.
And it's the H3.
H3 is the new threat.
But I would say that our cooperation goes
deeper than that, because I believe we are
fighting a similar battle for the future of
our common civilization.
Our Judeo-Christian civilization, Western civilization, as we
understand it.
It's under assault right now for one powerful
quarter, and that's radical Islam.
Radical Islam in the Middle East is spearheaded
by one country.
That's Iran.
It has proxies.
The 3 H's, Hezbollah, Hamas, the Houthis, and
others.
But the center, the pulsating engine, is Iran.
We were attacked by Iran's proxies in a
murderous campaign by a Hamas terrorist who raped
our women, beheaded our men, burnt our babies,
and took hostages.
We're committed to bring back home all of
them, including a hostage of Hungarian citizenship, Omri.
We discussed this.
We'll bring them back, all of them.
But we will smash the Iranian axis, the
Iranian terror axis, which threatens not only us
but Europe and many of our neighbors in
the Middle East.
We're committed to doing so.
And by doing that, we are also protecting
Europe.
Maybe there are some in Europe who don't
understand this, but Viktor Orban understands it.
He understands this common battle for our values,
for our interests, and for our common security.
And I want to thank you for that.
Well, Hungary has no worry about radical Islam
because they just didn't let him in like
the rest of Europe.
I was talking to Christina.
She's moving out of Rotterdam.
She can't take it.
Where is she going to go?
Zandam.
Zandam.
Zandam, yeah.
She says, I can't take it anymore.
She says, it's just not fun walking on
the street as a woman.
And it's not radical Islam, but it's definitely
Moroccans.
She says, it's too much.
Moroccan horndogs are the radical Islam.
No.
Just the opposite.
But, you know, we have had a couple
of interesting things happen in the Netherlands, in
Amsterdam.
We had a guy just – and this
was a Ukrainian, I think.
He decided to go stab a bunch of
people.
Then some other dude drove his car onto
the damn square and exploded it, lit it
on fire, and he was on fire.
People are losing their ever-loving minds over
there.
Now, the reason why Netanyahu was able to
go there is because Hungary has renounced the
International Criminal Court.
Israel's Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu is facing an
international arrest warrant, and yet he received a
red carpet welcome in Budapest by Prime Minister
Viktor Orban, breaking the country's obligation to bring
him into custody.
Orban subsequently said he would quit the International
Criminal Court.
I was the prime minister who signed the
document to join the ICC in 2000, and
I was the one who signed the document
to leave it in the past few days.
It is our conviction that in recent years
it has become not a neutral legal court,
but a political court.
Netanyahu is wanted by the ICC for alleged
war crimes and crimes against humanity in the
Gaza Strip, including starvation as a method of
warfare, murder, persecution, and other inhumane acts.
His trip to Budapest is highly symbolic at
a time when his army is expanding its
military operations in the enclave.
He is expected to spend four days meeting
with officials trying to garner support.
Standing alongside Orban, he too criticised the ICC,
saying Israel is fighting a just war with
just means.
He hailed Hungary's decision.
Viktor Orban, did you visit Epstein Island?
They got something on him.
Well, I'll tell you this.
Netanyahu's got an issue here with what happened
to these Red Crescent people that were basically
killed illegally by the IDF forces.
I have a clip of this because it
became a big topic on the BBC and
elsewhere.
Okay.
Where is this clip?
I don't see it.
Yeah, Israel workers scandal.
Okay.
The Israeli military has admitted its soldiers made
mistakes over the killings of 15 emergency workers
in Gaza after footage emerged casting doubt on
its version of events.
The convoy came under fire near Rafah last
week.
Israel had initially said the vehicles approached suspiciously
in darkness without headlights or emergency lights.
The video filmed by a paramedic killed in
the shooting appeared to contradict those claims.
Alfie Tobert reports.
The footage published by the Palestine Red Crescent
Society shows clearly marked vehicles with their headlights
and emergency lights on.
At least one of the workers is wearing
a reflective uniform.
It appears to contradict the Israeli military's original
explanation for why it opened fire just seconds
later.
At a briefing, an Israeli official admitted that
account was inaccurate.
They said the soldiers had earlier fired at
a car containing three Hamas members.
And when the emergency convoy stopped nearby, the
troops assumed they were under threat.
Israel maintains at least six of the medics
were linked to Hamas, but it's not yet
provided evidence to back up that claim.
They're certainly fulfilling the prophecy of all the
nations hating Israel.
That is moving along just splendidly.
Well, that brings me to an Ask Adam.
I'm glad you said that.
Ask Adam.
Answer the question.
Go.
All right.
What's the question?
Well, the question is, what is this all
about?
Because I don't get it.
I figure maybe Adam knows.
This woman, this TikToker comes out with this
commentary and then just ends it.
And I don't know what the hell she's
talking about.
Okay, so 144,000 Jewish virgin males.
They're all men from the 12 tribes.
During the three days of darkness, they will
be activated.
That's what they are.
Jewish male virgins from the 12 tribes.
Thank you.
Well, you've stumped me.
The three days of darkness and the 144
,000 Jewish virgins.
What are she talking about?
I do not recall reading this in my
Bible.
But I will inquire for you.
I will go to my theologian expert and
friend, Pastor Jimmy.
I'll ask him about it.
I actually thought you might know this right
off the top of your head.
That would be excellent if I did.
I would be, but I guess I was
wrong.
Well, is it the 12 from the 12
somehow?
You don't have to try to figure it
out.
Just ask.
I will.
Now, I do have some clips on child
labor laws being back.
Child labor being back is a thing.
You mean in your house?
It's always been a thing in my house.
You've always been for child labor in the
family.
I think child labor is a good thing.
When I was a kid, I was a
paper boy.
When I was a little kid, and then
as I got older, I worked every summer.
No, no, that's not what I'm talking about.
In the history of the show, I could
look it up, but just trust me.
You have said, no, no, you got to
put the kids to work for the family
business, and you do, and you do.
You always have.
Jay and Buzzkill Jr. both have worked, and
she still works for the family business, and
I think it's great.
It's like you're a farmer, just not a
crop.
Exactly.
You're a book farmer.
I am a farmer in spirit.
Book farmer.
So here's the thing.
This clip's about they've tried to change some
of these laws because they don't want kids
working, even though it's legal at some point.
When I was a kid, I remember being
in, I think it was the eighth grade
or high school, where if you were 15,
I think you could be 15, and all
you need is a note from the high
school called a work permit, and you could
work.
Like you wanted to work part-time during
the week or whatever, and it was no
big deal.
In fact, everyone relished these jobs because all
the kids, I mean, not all the kids
worked, but I was one of them.
I always worked, and when I did, I
always had more.
I had money, and it's a big deal
to have some cash on hand.
When you have money, you can get girls.
Yeah, you get the girls.
So let's listen to these clips.
Some states have been loosening the rules around
how much teens should be allowed to work
on the job, and the Republican-led Florida
legislature is debating questions like whether 14-year
-olds can have jobs or how late bosses
can ask 16-year-olds to work on
school nights.
In Tallahassee, WFSU's Tristan Wood reports.
One proposal would allow 16-year-olds to
work more than the current 30-hour-a
-week cap, including longer days and later hours,
even on school nights.
Another would loosen some limits on 14-year
-olds working if they're in homeschool, virtual education,
or already graduated.
One of the bills is sponsored by Tampa
Republican State Senator Jay Collins.
He says it is about parental rights and
giving children more access to jobs.
I believe that parents are best suited to
take care of their kids and manage their
schedules and make sure that they're doing what's
best for them.
I don't understand why the state needs to
go beyond the federal regulations in this case.
Federal laws are weaker, but Florida already loosened
some child labor laws last year, and the
state isn't alone.
Nina Mast is a policy and economic analyst
at the Washington-based Economic Policy Institute, which
seeks to improve wages for working people.
She says dozens of states have considered similar
bills, and several passed some last year.
What we are seeing, especially coming out of
the pandemic, is really just a push that
is led by the business industry and some
right-wing think tanks to be able to
make it easier to hire young people at
lower wages for longer hours and in more
hazardous jobs under the guise of wanting to
address a so-called labor shortage.
So it's under the guise, according to this
lefty, and it's all right-wing think tanks,
and they don't want kids working.
You know, think about this.
We could set up an AI company that
just has a bunch of kids who are
filling out forms.
Yeah, like the Indians do.
Agentic AI, and we just have kids do
it.
I love it.
It's a good idea.
It is a good idea.
Onward.
Mast says the changes are intended to drive
down wages that went up in lower-paying
industries during the pandemic, meaning jobs like servers
in restaurants and delivery drivers.
This is really a concerted nationwide effort.
Stop the clip.
Stopping the clip.
You can't have a delivery driver who's 14.
Let's start with that premise.
So we're dealing with false equivalencies and fake
premises.
Oh, yeah, this is so they get delivery
drivers.
Like a 14, 15, even a 16-year
-old delivery driver, so they can get them
cheaper?
No, no, no.
This is bullcrap.
Meaning jobs like servers in restaurants and delivery
drivers.
This is really a concerted nationwide effort to
essentially create a permanent underclass of disempowered low
-wage workers.
Florida Governor Ron DeSantis seemed to back the
general idea of more minors in the labor
force, speaking recently at an immigration panel that
included U.S. Immigration Czar Tom Homan.
What's wrong with expecting our young people to
be working part-time now?
I mean, like, that's how it used to
be when I was growing up.
Why do we say we need to import
foreigners, even import them illegally, when teenagers used
to work at these resorts?
He didn't mention child labor laws, but his
comments were seized on by Democratic lawmakers who
said child labor shouldn't be used to enable
an immigration crackdown.
John Flitter, a political science professor at Kansas
State University, who's written a book on child
labor laws, agrees.
Studies show that when kids start working, you
know, these hours, they do not do well
in school.
Some of them drop out, you know.
And if you don't have a high school
degree, a diploma, you're not really going to
be successful financially for the rest of your
life.
Oh, really?
This is bullcrap.
Yeah, I mean, go learn how to weld.
There's a permanent underclass, and then DeSantis himself
says he used to work like that when
he was a kid.
He's the governor of the state.
How is that a permanent underclass?
And besides that, we're talking about 14 and
15-year-olds who do not stay that
age for more than a year.
This whole thing is designed to promote immigration.
No, we don't want the kids working.
We don't want them having any jobs or
learning any life skills.
Screw the kids of America.
Bring in some immigrants.
That's all this is about.
Bring back apprenticeships.
That's another good thing.
That's exactly right.
Well, you'd learn something.
But no, no, no.
It was an exploitation, a permanent underclass.
You sound very upset by this.
I am very upset by it because I
used to work.
It all stems from the one experience I
had probably, I don't know, 25 years ago.
I was bitching and moaning.
I was in Port Townsend, Washington.
I remember exactly where it took place, and
there was a bunch of kids, and they
were sitting around doing nothing.
I don't know.
I got into a conversation with them.
Were they your kids?
Just random kids?
No, they were just a bunch of kids.
I don't know who they were.
You just walked up to kids?
They were ne'er-do-well high schoolers.
And I mentioned something.
We got into a conversation, and I talked
about it.
I don't understand why you're here.
You get a part-time job.
You could be doing something.
I'm sounding like an old man.
But the point was the kids called me
out.
They said, When you were a kid, it
was different.
We would love to get a job.
We can't get a job.
There are no jobs for us.
So you can complain about this all you
want, he says, the guy.
But you're talking to the wrong people because
I'd love to go get a job for
the summer.
It was during the summer.
And it really affected me.
And ever since then, I've noticed this whole
idea.
Let's keep the kids from working.
Don't do it.
Let's bring in immigrants and have them do
the jobs.
And then I remembered, like, I used to
be a paperboy.
And then that paperboy job went and eventually
fell onto the immigrants who drove cars around
and started delivering the papers door to door
out of a car, throwing the paper out
of the window.
It's just like the whole thing is designed
to screw the American public.
And to listen to these apologists really gets
me irked.
We need to stop using the paperboy as
an example because that— Well, there's no such
thing, and people don't know what I'm talking
about.
That opens you up to school.
But I learned how to shoe horses with
the blacksmith.
You did?
Yes.
I've told you this story.
I don't remember you shoeing horses.
We had Cor.
We had Cor Desmith, and he was the
blacksmith.
And he did all kinds of stuff.
But I had an apprenticeship with him two
or three days a week.
And then he'd teach me how to shoe
horses, which is a dynamite way to get
rid of the sniffles.
And the minute you put a hot horseshoe
on a horse's hoof, whoo-hoo!
And it smelled.
And then banging it out on the anvil,
oh, yeah.
It was great.
And you have to stand behind the horse
and then take his rear leg and put
it between your knees.
Oh, yeah.
Now, not a lot of apprenticeships in horseshoeing
either, but welding.
There's lots of apprenticeships all over the place
for all kinds of things, if they existed.
But they pulled them from the market because,
oh, let's just bring some immigrants in and
let them work cheap.
Yeah.
These apologies for this screw-up are unacceptable
to me, and this is NPR at its
best.
State Senator Collins defends his legislation, saying teens
working jobs provides other skills they can't get
in school.
We want our kids to be academically prepared,
but let's talk about soft skills.
Let's talk about adult function.
Let's talk about executive thought process and management.
Where do they learn that?
Do we teach them that in school?
I think if you go look at what's
going on, we really don't.
We don't prepare them for executive function.
We don't even have home ec and things
like that.
It's unclear what will pass Florida's legislature.
The Senate president and House speakers both say
they're unsure about further reducing child labor protections.
But in a committee meeting this week, lawmakers
raised the idea of loosening rules for 13
-year-olds to work in the summer.
Well.
Oh, you have to loosen the rules so
a 13-year-old can work in the
summer.
Oh, no.
Yeah.
Permanent underclass.
I mean, around here in Fredericksburg, there's plenty
of opportunities.
You can work with Paul, the septic guy.
The septic.
Hey, let me tell you, Paul, the septic
guy, does pretty good.
He does.
You got a lot of septic out there.
You can work with Pete, the well guy.
You can work with Shane, the electrician.
He'd love to have some apprenticeship.
He's hard for him to get paid workers
to understand what they're doing.
Anyway.
And we're old men.
By the way, I need to brush up
on my eschatology.
And I will be the first to admit
Revelation is not my book.
It's a very, very, very complicated one.
Revelation 7, 4, Then I heard the number
of those who were sealed, 144,000 from
all the tribes of Israel.
There's nothing about virgins or three days of
darkness.
This is end times stuff, man.
End times.
That's what she was talking about.
The end times are coming.
Yeah, exactly.
And McCrone is the Antichrist.
Well, that's possible.
Well, someone sent me actually an interesting thing.
What was it?
By the way, as an Antichrist, he stinks.
He's no good as an Antichrist.
I agree.
One of Daniel's description of the Antichrist is
he's be without the love of a woman.
I'm just saying.
Yeah, on no agenda in the morning.
That's right.
We keep our eyes on the end times
for you.
Only partially joking.
And now we want to thank the rest
of our supporters, donors, and lovers, and producers
who sent some value to us, $50 and
above.
I'm sure there's some people there who gave
the lovely $73.73 donation, which probably came
in as $76.43 if you added the
fees.
And these are all happy birthday wishes, well
wishes for John.
And I want to thank you all for
making John's birthday a very happy one.
Well, let's start with Ash.
And this is another one.
It's $135.79, and she puts in her
note, Stephen Wright donation.
We need a number.
Well, we don't need a number, just Stephen
Wright donations.
They're all random numbers.
That's good.
It's fine by me.
Random Stephen Wright donations.
Very strange.
It's good.
Nick Ellenbecker, one, two, three, four, five.
Dame Diane, the nation north of the wall,
$118.92. Proof that no agenda karma works.
Newcastle United Football Club wins the first domestic
cup in 70 years.
Wow.
How about that?
Oh, yeah.
Angela Garcia, she was at the meetup.
She came in with $100.
And she also realized Angela's always producing.
She does.
She's like an artist who does little miniatures.
Oh, she always see.
I think she had gave me a little
podcast or once with this last time.
She is a small framed.
I think it's Samoan or it's not Samoan.
It's some other mermaid, which was a which
JC knew about this mermaid, which was a
fake, which was a mermaid that would that
some scientists cobbled together as a proof of
mermaids existing.
It was a it was complete fraud.
And she made a little bitty one.
Anyway, in a frame is very interesting.
She did every meetup.
She shows up and drop something off like
that.
Sir, as it's all that's all that's a
result that 100 bucks.
Cole Gregory in Amherst, Ohio, 808.
Kevin McLaughlin, there he is.
He's the Duke of Luna, lover of American
boobs, 808.
And now we start with the happy birthdays.
The first one is kind of high because
it came in from Paris, France, and all
with all the I guess the rigmarole.
Sheila sent a happy birthday from Paris.
Party is seventy nine.
Eighty two.
Warm wishes.
Sheila from Paris.
Jason Shepherd in Trinidad, Colorado.
Seventy six.
Forty three.
I mean, I'm just going to read the
names and locations of all these birthday.
Well, we're sure starting with Jason, Frank van
de Ven in.
Mass met Mechelen, Mass Mechelen, Mass, Mass, Mass,
Mass Mechelen, Belgium.
Is it Belgium?
Yeah, Belgium.
Seventies.
Yeah.
Seventies.
Jeffrey Montagna in Phoenix, Arizona.
And Jeff Jack.
I'm sorry.
Schofield in Yankee Town, Yankee Town, Florida.
Anonymous in Pennsylvania, Pennsylvania.
Dame Beth in Tucson, Arizona.
By the way, somebody also handed off a
couple of silver coins and I didn't get
their name on them.
So sorry about that.
Dan Martin in Washougal.
I know most of these Washington towns, but
never heard of this one.
Washougal.
Seventy three.
W1BUS.
Seventy threes.
Fans of y'all, since you worked at
a place in the TV, a tech TV.
Anna Hamm.
Gadget Freak 10 in Western Springs, Illinois.
Michael Mayers in Diamond Head, Mississippi.
Sir Goat of the Hill in Pleasant Ridge,
Michigan.
Commodore G in Cincinnati.
Dan, Danella, Daniella, I think.
A pump pumpo in Los Angeles, California.
Visit L.A., she writes.
Dorothy Schroedert.
In Corvallis, Oregon.
Eric Hanna in Chicago.
Anonymous and Anonymous in Georgia.
Bra Bruce Hutchison in Anthem, Arizona.
Colonel John C.
J-A-W-N-C.
Kind of interesting.
Enjoy your biscuits in Bordeaux.
He's from Kirkland.
Randy O'Rourke.
Parts Unknown.
Kirkstruck.
Jason Babcock.
Dame Astrid and Sir Mark, they came in.
That's nice and sweet.
Best boomer ever, they say.
That's me.
That's right.
And I can complain as with the best
of them.
Dame Lacey in Lake Mills, Wichigan.
Wichigan.
Wichigan.
I'm using that from now on.
Wichigan.
Wisconsin.
Sir Dirty Jersey Whore in Gladewater, Texas.
Have you ever run into him?
Yes, many times.
He's about seven feet tall.
Lovely wife.
Yes, that's what somebody at the meetup said.
Hey, I met Dirty Jersey Whore.
And it says Dirty Jersey or something on
his back or Dersier.
Yeah.
And he says the guy's a monster.
He's huge.
He's a nice guy.
Sweetheart.
Yeah, and he said he's a super nice
guy.
The bigger they are, the bigger they are.
Very generous.
Very sweet.
Well, he gave us a nice piece in
Gladewater.
And he's tasty.
Sir Bee Boop in New Brighton, Minnesota.
Donald Roth in Parkston, South Dakota.
John Fellman in Chico.
R.F. Eider.
R.F. Eider in Fairfax, Virginia.
How about R.F. I.D.er?
R.F. I.D.er. I think that's
the guy who may have...
Something with R.F.I.D. things, I
guess.
I'm just...
That's what it sounds like.
But I think he may be a guy
who also dropped off something.
Okay.
Or put something in the envelope of interest.
Laura Heer in Williston, Vermont.
Stephen Tucci in Littleton, Colorado.
Sir Austin in Sammamish, Washington.
Bear in a Puget Sound, actually.
Dame Rita.
There she is in Sparks, Nevada.
Kimberly Bridges, Sarasota, Florida.
These all say happy birthday, by the way.
Sir Latte from Starbucks.
No, he's in Bremerton, Washington.
Sir Recalcitrant Crazy Steve.
There's our guy.
The second.
There's more of them.
There's more of them.
There might be.
Sir John, Parts Unknown.
Danny Haynes.
Sir Becoming Heroic.
Top Notch Heating and...
What is it?
You have it broke out.
It's a plug for Top Notch Heating.
Top Notch Heating and Air.
And Air Conditioning in Mantee, Utah.
That's who you want to go to, sir.
Johnny Bananas and Dame Sally Bananas in Fowler,
Indiana.
Sir Robertson in Dos Palos, California.
Ahmed Mian in Calgary, Alberta.
Well, that ended it, by the way.
And by the way, Ahmed Mian, he sent
$100 in Canadian dollary dues, and he actually
sent me a note.
What was the note that he sent?
He needs a job's karma, and I will
give that to him at the end.
Here's what he said.
What did he say here?
He needs a job's karma.
Yeah, good fortune.
Yes, okay.
You got it.
So his $100 became $67.31. Yeah, and
that's probably plus fees.
Maybe.
David Cox in Austin, Texas, $63.25. Troy
Funderburk in Missoula, Montana, $55.
Michael Gates, $52.80. Roger Kesey in Holland,
Michigan, $52.72. These are all $50 donors.
Sometimes you read them off as $50s, except
for, well, you got Craig Bodak, parts unknown,
Gordon Myers in Dripping Springs, $51.50. Now,
these are officially $50 donors.
Chris Conaker in Anchorage.
Alex Zavala in Kiley, Texas.
Sir Alex, yes.
Sir Alex.
Mark Miller in Lenoxa, I think is how
it's pronounced, Kansas.
Henry Klan in Aledo, Texas.
Corey Jackson in Waterton, Tennessee.
Walker Phillips over here in San Rafael, California.
And last on the list, good list, Vancid
in Virginia.
I think Vancid may have been the one
who sent the extra gift.
I'll tell you about that later.
Okay.
We want to thank these people.
Is it exploding?
It's exploding dildo.
Hey, everybody.
Thank you so much for celebrating John's birthday
with us.
It's an annual tradition here on the show.
We do it twice a year.
One for me, one for John, and we
appreciate that.
noagendadonations.com.
Here's the jobs karma as requested.
Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.
Let's vote for jobs.
You've got karma.
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It's noagendadonations.com.
And besides celebrating John's birthday, we also celebrated
Brittany Johnson's birthday as her husband, Jordan Johnson,
wishes smoking hot wife Brittany a very happy
one.
She turned 40 on April 5th.
Hi, I'm messing up.
She says happy birthday to her son, Adam.
He turned 18 on the 5th of April
as well.
And we say happy birthday to these people
from everybody.
You're the best podcast in the universe.
It's your birthday, yeah.
Title changes.
Turn and faceless ladies.
Title changes.
Don't want to be a douchebag.
We do that title change from earlier.
Sir Lawrence of Dystopia upped his support to
the show in the amount of $1,000.
So he becomes Sir Lawrence of Dystopia, Baronet
of Maxwell Park.
That's on the spreadsheet.
That's not what you approved, but that's how
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So now I guess it's official.
Congratulations, Sir Lawrence, now Baronet.
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Zane Peterson is a layaway knight.
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You just lay away a little bit, do
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He says, hey, guys, I never thought I'd
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The other day I was scrolling through PayPal
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I tallied things up, and I was.
I was over the mark.
So on to the cool stuff.
I'd like my knight name to be Zurzanamak
of the squared circle, and I'll have good
old mutton and mead.
Thanks a million, he says.
And he wants a jobs karma from Nancy.
Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.
Let's vote for jobs.
You've got karma.
So why don't we see we have two
here.
Why don't we bring these knights up on
the table.
I've got my blade here.
If you can draw your sword.
Very nice.
Nice sword drawing, sir.
Zane Peterson, you're ready to go.
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One meetup today, only one.
Actually, this is April 10th, so that doesn't
make any sense.
That would be this coming Thursday.
Right.
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Sorry, not today.
I'm confused.
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Like a big party.
I will continue to try real ISOs, while
you just use AI for what it's really
good for.
Surfing websites, creating videos for Scaramanga, and end
-of-show ISOs.
That's really what that $100 billion industry is
about.
I have two.
I'm going to start with the first one.
Everything's going to go up.
No, that's no good.
I thought this one was good.
Dude, what's going on?
Hmm?
What's that got to do with the end
of the show?
Nothing, because I don't type in a prompt.
Well, I got a real one in here.
Please.
Let's go with 10.
10 out of 10?
Perfection.
What's that got to do with the show?
Yeah.
Yeah, very funny.
Yeah.
Let's go with the Arab shoots.
Yeah, no, that's no good.
That was the real one?
That's no good.
Okay, well, let's try, what is this?
Dips.
No, I don't like that.
You would bulk against that saying that portrays
us negatively.
We are not dipshits.
So that's a no.
Hard no.
I agree.
I just threw it in just to add
a little spice.
Yes, okay.
And then we got no.
No, it can't be over already.
Let me see.
Between that one and 10 out of 10?
Perfection.
I think that's the best one.
10 out of 10, perfection.
Still looking for yo, yo, yo, what up?
Yo, yo, yo, what up?
Somebody got to do that for me.
Nobody can do it.
You can't do it.
I know there is a trick you can
do it with.
And it's using the voice changer.
In other words, you don't use the AI
to create the voice.
You use your own voice and say, yo,
yo, yo, what up?
And then you tweak it.
Someone out there can just record it.
You can do it.
You don't need AI for that.
But apparently, no one wants to participate.
They don't want to do it.
Everybody, it's time for everybody's favorite moment of
the show.
This is John's tip of the day.
Great advice for you and me.
Just a tip with JCD.
And sometimes Adam.
Okay, so this is a product tip.
Huh?
This is a product tip.
I get product tips once in a while,
besides cleaning tips.
I think everyone should get, you get, buy
these by the pair.
There's like two sets of them.
And everyone should have these because it's the
only way to go.
Otherwise, you're dicking around, dicking around, trying to
find the right charging cable.
Oh, no.
It's the multi-charging, five-in-one, two
pieces, four-foot cables that have a USB
-C on one side and a micro USB.
It just has all these different connections.
They have three or four of them that
you can plug into.
You find one.
Because of all these USB things they've created,
they've ruined it.
You got your C.
You got your micro.
You got your one that Google uses.
You got the one of the iPhone.
They don't even use it.
They don't even bother.
iPhone screws you over.
So you should buy these things.
You get two of them for $10.
And get them while they last because I'm
sure they're coming out of China.
So you're so against USB-C, but isn't
this kind of exactly why USB-C is
good as a standard?
Why?
Well, because everybody, I mean, all my devices
now have USB-C.
Yeah, that's the whole idea.
So they can spy on you.
What do you need when you have the
regular small USB connector, which has four pins?
Count them, four pins.
And it can go at incredibly high speeds.
Why do we suddenly need a 24-pin
connector?
For AI.
For what?
For AI, man.
It's for AI.
For AI throughput.
For lack of latency, AI throughput.
And it's a bunch of little bitty, and
they're so minuscule that if you put the
thing in just such, they're bound to screw
up.
They're bound to break.
They're no good.
USB-C is no good.
You heard it here first, everybody.
USB-C is no good.
It'll never fly.
I never said that.
But I'm putting words in your mouth.
Hey, Tip of the Day.
Don't let no one get to fun.com.
And sometimes, at home.
Created by Dana Brunetti.
There you go, everybody.
There's your Tip of the Day.
I have a tip for next week, for
Thursday.
I got a couple of tips.
Sitting around in my underwear, Tina's out in
Florida.
I got tips.
I got lots of tips for you.
Put some clothes on.
Here's a tip.
My tip is that if you stay tuned
to the Noah Jenner stream, trollroom.io, and
on your modern podcast app, you will hear
Behind the Schemes coming up in just moments
from now, as we cruise right into that,
because it's a live thing we got going
on.
It's just like radio, only cheaper and a
lot more fun.
End of show mixes.
Thank you, Tom Starkweather, for a redux of
Trump's tariffs.
This was from 2019, but it still fits.
And Professor Jay Jones comes in with some
a-ha, a-ha stuff.
Coming to you from the heart of the
Texas Hill Country, here in Fredericksburg, picturesque Fredericksburg,
I might add.
In the morning, everybody, I'm Adam Curry.
And from Northern Silicon Valley, where it's been
picturesque and the weather's better, I'm John C.
Dvorak.
We return on Thursday with more of your
Noah Jenner Show.
We hope you will join us for that.
We certainly look forward to it.
I'm sure there will be something to deconstruct.
Remember us at noagendadonations.com.
Until then, adios, mofos, a-hooey, hooey, and
such.
He said we're going to put tariffs on
Mexico.
Well, senators said, wait a minute.
Republicans on the Hill haven't shown a whole
lot of willingness to stand up to this
motion.
He's got a 90% approval rating among
Republican voters, and all the Republican senators know
that.
And every month those tariffs go from 5
% to 10% to 15% to
20% and then to 25%.
Hence the color orange.
Tariffs is what it takes to get Mexico
to do better on their side of the
border.
I'm all for tariffs.
President Trump has a habit of proposing asinine
and dangerous policies before backing off.
It would be my hope that they're going
to work out things so the tariffs don't
go into effect.
It just will not work.
And this will directly and immediately affect the
American consumer.
So maybe it's just a threat.
Who knows?
The last thing that he said is that
he's deadly serious.
When you say you and I know, I
don't know that at all.
Here's what I know.
I don't know whether to believe it or
not.
I say to this child, I know what
I'm told, not what I know.
But I do know that if we secure
the Mexican-Guatemalan border, that would be a
great way to stop hosts coming all the
way across.
But we're not done.
We haven't seen anything yet.
Except a tweet.
A tweet.
Mitch McConnell finally found his testicles because it's
near his wallet.
People have endured much worse than expensive avocados
or a few more dollars here and there.
And for the average American broke, that is
no small amount of money.
A lot of money.
$1,300.
Any brand of course with avocado on the
menu will be impacted by this tariff.
I'm not blaming President Trump here.
I'm blaming the Congress because we can't do
our job.
As you know, we have, with President Trump,
been kind of a roller coaster.
So sometimes he's going up, sometimes he's coming
down.
This is the man that lost more money
than any other American person on the planet.
This guy has lost more money than anybody.
That's true.
New unit, acronym AHA.
Definitely the swear words.
He laughs at fear.
Or damn.
He pauls in the valley and rejoices for
shit.
Turns out we were pretty right about the
true value of TikTok.
Followed by don't be so flippant man.
AHA.
Mine were cut off.
You've never met a gay dog?
Really?
AHA.
And the guilt is eating me alive.
He does not stand still in the voice.
AHA.
Of the trumpet.
He says AHA.
Baby dogs are almost as gay as dolphins.
You need to get it together my guy.
Don't be so flippant?
And do you know that that never was
a jingle?
How dare you be so flippant man?
He sayeth among the trumpet, AHA.
Dogs are gay.
The glory of his nostrils is terrible.
Okay, what was the question?
The Chinese never go to the gouging phase.
It makes no sense.
Great question.
Now this is interesting.
Oh remarkable my ass.
I mean we hear these illogic complaints constantly.
President Pump.
That's his new name.
31% of Democrats were more likely to
move to a place within 5 miles of
a Trader Joe's.
Only 10% of Republicans.
The angry baby.
Let's call them delusional Dems.
You like the angry baby.
Radicalizing them around this particular.
There you go.
He swallows the ground with fierceness and rage.
I never heard it as a jingle.
AHA.
Definitely the swear words.
He sayeth among the trumpet, AHA.
Everyone's hearing Palmer.
Those child care centers will now face closure
or significantly higher operating costs.
And then once you get it to yourself
you gouge.
Really?
AHA.
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