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The whole thing is staged.
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Adam Curry, John C.
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Dvorak.
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It's Sunday, April 20th, 2025.
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This year award-winning give-all nation media
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assassination episode 1757.
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This is no agenda.
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He is reason.
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And we're broadcasting live from the heart of
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the Texas hill country here in FEMA region
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number 6.
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Good morning everybody, I'm Adam Curry.
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And from northern Silicon Valley where everybody's saying
0:24
happy Easter, I'm John C.
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Dvorak.
0:26
This is Crackpot and Cosgill in the audience.
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I almost didn't make it.
0:34
I almost didn't make it.
0:35
Jeez.
0:36
I got COVID.
0:37
I got COVID.
0:41
I picked up COVID in Holland.
0:45
Oh, did you pick up something on the
0:46
way back?
0:46
Yeah, COVID.
0:47
You didn't pick up COVID.
0:49
Well, everyone says it's COVID.
0:51
There must be COVID.
0:52
I'm probably dying of the COVID.
0:53
You sound terrible.
0:54
Yeah, thank you.
0:57
There's a cough button you have.
0:59
I think you're just doing this for dramatic
1:01
purposes.
1:04
Hello?
1:05
See, now when I hit the cough button,
1:08
then you make a big problem out of
1:09
it.
1:11
Hello?
1:12
Hello?
1:12
Hello?
1:14
Are you there?
1:15
I'm here.
1:16
Yeah, I think I picked something up at
1:18
the party.
1:20
What are the chances?
1:22
200 elites all gathered together.
1:24
One of them is going to be a
1:25
seething, illness-ridden human resource.
1:30
So you do have some ailment.
1:33
I do, yes.
1:36
Normally, you never show it even if you're
1:38
sick as a dog, but you do sound
1:40
a little congested.
1:41
That's the problem.
1:42
It started Thursday during our last show, and
1:45
I was using the cough button continuously.
1:49
Seriously, let's put it that way.
1:54
Not so much because I was coughing, but
1:57
it's just the blowing my nose, man.
2:01
It's horrible.
2:02
It's horrible.
2:02
It's horrible.
2:07
Anyway, I'm so happy that it gives you
2:09
such joy.
2:11
It's funny.
2:12
It's not funny.
2:13
It's not funny.
2:14
I mean, I could have called it-
2:15
Gallivanting around the world wondering why you're sick.
2:18
I'm not wondering why I'm sick, but I
2:20
have a question for you.
2:21
Forget about SOA.
2:23
No.
2:24
It is 420.
2:26
Yeah.
2:27
A lot going on in this day.
2:30
And the question I have for you is,
2:34
are you now currently, at this moment, under
2:36
martial law?
2:38
Oh, that's right.
2:39
Today is martial law day.
2:41
Yes, I am.
2:44
I mean, it's 113- I already forgot
2:48
about that stupidity.
2:49
No, I hadn't forgot about it because it
2:53
was even like a 10-minute topic on
2:55
The Hill.
2:56
What's the girl's name?
2:57
Crystal Ball?
2:59
Crystal Ball.
3:00
Crystal Ball.
3:00
That's her name, right?
3:02
No, she's not on The Hill.
3:03
They do an independent podcast now.
3:06
No, I thought this was on The Hill.
3:08
Well, The Hill, no.
3:09
She used to be on The Hill, but
3:11
she's not on The Hill anymore.
3:12
Well, she was all beside herself.
3:16
And, you know, first of all, I mean,
3:17
I got to play these two clips because
3:19
she was so, I mean, the big-
3:21
I'm glad you have clips about this because
3:23
I completely, you know, I completely dropped the
3:26
ball on this.
3:26
Well, you think that I would think that
3:28
Easter is the most important thing to think
3:30
about today, or that it's 420 day, or
3:33
Hitler's birthday.
3:34
But no, I was watching for martial law
3:37
because we've been assured today would be martial
3:41
law.
3:42
And here's the setup.
3:44
By the way, we've been- I'm sorry,
3:47
but we've been assured by these various screwballs
3:49
with no foundation.
3:53
Well, she actually lays out- now I
3:54
understand the foundation of this thing.
3:57
Then the big chyron said, 420 martial law,
4:00
420, 4 slash 20 martial law.
4:02
I'm like, it's Easter.
4:05
I don't- just on its face that
4:08
this president would declare martial law on Easter
4:10
is highly unlikely.
4:12
421, maybe, maybe, maybe it'll happen tomorrow.
4:16
But no, not on 420.
4:18
But the reason why is because the resistance
4:21
is growing.
4:23
Resistance is swelling.
4:24
Both at the grassroots- I'm sorry, it's
4:26
swelling.
4:27
Swelling.
4:28
It's swelling.
4:29
The resistance is swelling.
4:30
Resistance is swelling, both at the grassroots and
4:33
the institutional level.
4:35
Hundreds of thousands of people have turned out
4:37
to Bernie and AOC's fight oligarchy tour, including
4:40
large crowds in red states like Idaho.
4:43
Millions turned out coast to coast as part
4:44
of the hands-off protests.
4:46
Members of Congress cannot hold a town hall
4:48
without being flooded by outraged constituents.
4:51
Universities are beginning to fight back rather than
4:54
get rolled.
4:54
Law firms are starting to think twice about
4:56
their capitulation bribery deals.
4:58
Democrats have moved from Cory Booker's show speech
5:01
to Chris Van Hollen's genuinely courageous flight to
5:04
tangle with Bukele in El Salvador.
5:05
The courts are becoming increasingly assertive.
5:08
And bond traders are apparently the actual deep
5:10
state.
5:11
Now, how will Trump respond to this rapid
5:13
political shift and mounting backlash?
5:15
It won't be by backing down or changing
5:17
course.
5:18
It will be by cracking down.
5:19
Oh yeah.
5:20
It will be by cracking down.
5:21
That's right.
5:22
Martial law.
5:23
He's going to put military on the street
5:25
so that he can ship everybody off.
5:27
They're going to become the Amazon of shipping
5:29
human resources out of the country.
5:32
Some of this project, of course, is already
5:34
well in motion.
5:35
He's used supposed national emergencies and national security
5:37
threats already to claim extraordinary powers by his
5:40
terrorist program and by invoking the Alien Enemies
5:43
Act.
5:44
But there's more.
5:45
On April 20th, pursuant to an executive order
5:47
that Trump signed on day one of his
5:48
presidency, he is going to receive a report
5:50
from Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth and fascist Barbie
5:53
Kristi Noem about whether or not- Hey,
5:59
we pioneered A.G. Barbie.
6:01
I have to say a fascist Barbie may
6:03
be better.
6:03
Well, fascist Barbie refers to Kristi Noem.
6:06
A.G. Barbie refers to- Oh, that's
6:08
right.
6:09
It's Pam Bondi.
6:09
Yes.
6:10
Who do we have as Ken?
6:13
Is it VP Ken?
6:15
Hegseth it would be Ken.
6:16
Hegseth.
6:18
Hegseth Ken.
6:19
Hegseth and fascist Barbie Kristi Noem about whether
6:21
or not he should invoke the Insurrection Act
6:24
of 1807.
6:25
Now, such an invocation would open up extraordinary
6:27
powers for this president to use our military
6:29
in our streets against our citizens.
6:31
There it is.
6:32
You see, this is what this whole thing
6:35
was about.
6:35
It's about this report that is supposed to
6:37
be delivered today because reports always come on
6:40
Easter Sunday.
6:41
Yeah, because people love working on the holidays.
6:44
There's nothing like it.
6:46
And so there's going to be this report
6:47
from Hegseth Ken.
6:50
Or maybe just call him Ken Hegseth.
6:52
No, Hegseth Ken is better.
6:54
And Hegseth Ken is going to say, we're
6:56
ready, Mr. President.
6:57
We're ready to start rousing citizens on the
7:00
street.
7:00
Of course, there are any number of ways
7:02
in which he might deploy that power.
7:04
Perhaps he'd deploy the military to the border.
7:06
Part of an expanded militarized immigration response.
7:08
Militarized.
7:09
Acting head of ICE has mused about ramping
7:11
up mass deportation on an industrial scale.
7:13
Even fantasizing about fleets of trucks scooping up
7:16
immigrants the way that Amazon efficiently delivers packages
7:18
on a mass scale.
7:20
Quote, we need to get better at treating
7:22
this like a business.
7:23
Acting ICE director Todd Lyons said, explaining he
7:25
wants to see a deportation process like Amazon
7:28
Prime, but with human beings.
7:29
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
7:33
Trump and the Republicans are pushing for a
7:35
much larger budget for ICE and for private
7:37
prison contractors to run detention centers.
7:39
But if you really want to go for
7:41
industrial scale, it would be hard to beat
7:42
the military.
7:43
Now, even if you are hawkish on immigration,
7:46
think of the genuinely evil way this administration
7:49
has already conducted itself.
7:50
Do you feel comfortable handing them the tools
7:53
for a militarized industrial scale human removal and
7:56
incarceration system?
7:58
Do you really think the horror is going
8:00
to be just reserved to the criminals, the
8:01
gang members, when we already know that 90
8:04
% of the men that they sent to
8:05
a slave labor torture dungeon were innocent, like
8:08
Amazon Prime, but for fascism, I guess.
8:11
90%?
8:13
Yes, 90%.
8:17
You can tell by looking at them.
8:19
I hope that you can find more of
8:20
those TikTokers who, when they say, oh, it's
8:22
coming, it wasn't 420, it's going to be
8:25
430.
8:26
Oh, yeah, they're going to move the date.
8:29
But this is the insanity that we've come
8:31
to in our mainstream media messaging system, which
8:37
is still, it's still live.
8:38
It's still hobbling along.
8:40
The morning shows this morning, the Sunday morning
8:42
shows, all filled with Easter cheer and filled
8:47
with Chris Van Hollen, who went to El
8:50
Salvador because he is so brave.
8:53
He's so brave.
8:55
And he talked to, what was this guy
8:58
doing not in a jail, by the way?
9:01
Yeah, they went to a hotel, they were
9:03
having mojitos.
9:05
Margaritas, margaritas.
9:06
The guy was dressed with a backward hat
9:10
and a Hawaiian shirt.
9:13
What was this?
9:15
And so they brought a photographer along, so
9:18
they took some photo ops.
9:21
And it was ridiculous.
9:22
And the fact that this, this is beyond
9:26
me.
9:26
Well, so he was on every one of
9:29
the top three shows, Face the Nation, Meet
9:31
the Press, and This Week.
9:33
And they all had the exact same script,
9:36
exact same questions, and the exact same answers.
9:40
So let's listen to CBS.
9:44
This is basically a three by three morning
9:47
show.
9:47
It is, it is.
9:48
But I will not appropriate your jingle.
9:51
Senator, thank you so much for joining us
9:53
this morning.
9:54
You're just back from El Salvador.
9:56
And I want to pick up where we
9:57
left off with Camilo.
9:58
Because the White House is using these new
10:01
details to build its case that Abrigo Garcia
10:05
should stay where he is and not come
10:07
back to the US.
10:08
Your response?
10:09
Well, Weijia, it's good to be with you.
10:11
And his case is of course separate.
10:13
Who's Weijia?
10:13
Is she new?
10:14
Weijia?
10:15
Weijia.
10:15
It's a Weijia board.
10:16
Weijia, Weijia Zhang.
10:18
Weijia Zhang.
10:19
Well, Weijia, it's good to be with you.
10:20
And his case is of course separate than
10:23
the case of the Venezuelans that you were
10:25
talking about earlier.
10:26
And in Abrigo Garcia's case, the Trump administration
10:30
admitted in federal court that he'd been wrongfully
10:34
abducted and sent to a prison in El
10:38
Salvador.
10:38
But rather than fixing the problem as the
10:41
Supreme Court- Wait, wait.
10:42
So he's quoting them and somebody came out
10:45
and said he was wrongfully abducted?
10:48
I don't think so.
10:49
No.
10:50
Well, of course not.
10:52
They said we made a clerical error, but
10:54
he was no good anyway.
10:55
Put him on the Amazon Express.
10:58
The Supreme Court has said in terms of
11:00
his need to use their efforts to facilitate
11:05
his release, they reprimanded the lawyer who made
11:10
that case.
11:11
So they need to bring him home.
11:13
Now, with respect to these other facts, I
11:16
say put up or shut up in court.
11:18
This was his continuous thing.
11:21
So on all the networks, put up or
11:22
shut up in court.
11:23
Here's NBC, meet the press.
11:24
You know, while you were in El Salvador,
11:26
the White House was counterprogramming, effectively releasing information
11:31
about- Counterprogramming?
11:33
That's interesting.
11:34
So they're aware of the distraction of the
11:37
week and how it works?
11:38
Counterprogramming?
11:38
The White House was counterprogramming, effectively releasing information
11:43
about Mr. Abrego's Garcia's background, including a police
11:46
report suggesting he's a member of MS-13,
11:50
details about a restraining order from his wife
11:52
who ultimately dropped the matter, and a police
11:55
report in which an officer said he suspected
11:58
Mr. Abrego Garcia may have been involved in
12:01
human trafficking.
12:02
Now, he's never been charged with a crime,
12:04
but is his past complicating the broader argument
12:08
that you are trying to make here about
12:10
due process?
12:11
Well, what Donald Trump is trying to do
12:13
is change the subject.
12:15
Let's make no bones about that, right?
12:17
No bones about it.
12:19
This subject is the Trump administration's ignoring a
12:22
Supreme Court order 9-0 to facilitate his
12:25
return because they admitted in court, they, the
12:28
Trump administration, that he'd been wrongfully detained.
12:30
Now, what I have said is Donald Trump
12:33
and his administration need to put up or
12:35
shut up in court.
12:37
There it is, put up or shut up
12:38
in court.
12:39
Can ABC go for the hat trick, Jonathan
12:41
Karl?
12:42
Are you concerned about your defense of somebody?
12:46
Obviously, everybody in this country, even those undocumented
12:50
immigrants, have rights.
12:52
But are you concerned about standing so forcefully
12:54
with somebody that has, you know, at least
12:57
a questionable record?
12:59
I am not defending the man.
13:02
I'm defending the rights of this man to
13:06
due process.
13:07
And the Trump administration has admitted in court
13:11
that he was wrongfully detained and wrongfully deported.
13:17
My mission and my purpose is to make
13:19
sure that we uphold the rule of law.
13:21
Because if we take it away from him,
13:23
we do jeopardize it for everybody else.
13:25
Everybody.
13:25
I do want to point out, Karl, yes,
13:27
the Trump administration is trying to change the
13:29
story.
13:29
They're trying to detract attention.
13:32
Here's where they should put their facts.
13:34
Let me guess.
13:34
They should put it before the court.
13:35
They should put up or shut up in
13:37
court.
13:37
I mean, come on.
13:39
Does nobody have an exclusive anymore these days?
13:45
This guy who sounds like a nervous wreck.
13:47
He sounds like, you know, a character, actually.
13:50
He's shaking his voice.
13:51
You know, he's doing this as a stunt
13:54
to run for president.
13:55
This guy's running for president?
13:57
Yeah.
13:58
Oh.
13:59
Oh, boy.
14:02
Well, you pretty much summarized it right there.
14:06
Let's do a triple shot here of Margarita
14:09
Gate.
14:10
So did you walk into a trap, though?
14:12
I mean, they bring him to your hotel.
14:14
It's a trap.
14:14
He's in civilian clothes.
14:17
And you met with him.
14:19
We saw the images that you put out.
14:21
Of meeting with him, you know, at the
14:25
beginning of the meeting.
14:26
You're sitting there.
14:27
You're drinking water and talking to the guy
14:29
in the hotel lobby, I assume.
14:31
Water?
14:31
And then at some point, they bring in
14:33
these, like, you know, glasses that look like
14:36
margarita glasses.
14:39
What margarita glasses?
14:41
It wasn't a trap.
14:43
My goal was to meet with him.
14:45
How come he wasn't in the- I
14:47
don't understand.
14:47
Why was he not in the El Salvadorian
14:49
jail with his head shaved bald?
14:53
This is the part I don't understand.
14:56
The whole thing is staged.
14:58
Yeah.
14:58
And make sure I could tell his wife
15:00
and family he was okay.
15:02
That was my goal.
15:03
And I achieved that goal.
15:05
You're absolutely right that the Salvadorian- That
15:09
wasn't his goal.
15:11
No.
15:11
His goal was what?
15:12
To run for president.
15:13
His goal, he said at the beginning of
15:15
this whole trek that he was going to
15:17
go there and get him and bring him
15:19
back.
15:19
That was his goal.
15:20
That was the goal, yes.
15:21
Yes.
15:22
Well, it seems like they could have just
15:24
hopped onto the jet and taken off.
15:26
I don't think it was an issue.
15:27
The guy was not detained.
15:30
No, he was hanging out in the hotel
15:31
lobby.
15:31
Hanging out in the hotel lobby.
15:32
I achieved that goal.
15:34
You're absolutely right that the Salvadorian authorities tried
15:37
to deceive people.
15:39
They tried to make it look like he
15:40
was in paradise.
15:41
They actually wanted to have the meeting by
15:43
the hotel pool originally.
15:46
I wonder who really wanted to have the
15:48
meeting.
15:48
The producers were probably like, hey, this is
15:51
a much better shot over here by the
15:52
pool.
15:52
We can all be outside.
15:53
Really?
15:54
Absolutely.
15:55
Absolutely.
15:56
We had to negotiate that.
15:57
They wanted to put me right overlooking the
15:59
pool.
15:59
In fact, if you had a different angle
16:01
on the camera shot, you would see the
16:03
pool.
16:03
Because they did write that.
16:05
Bukele put out a statement saying miraculously risen
16:08
from the death camps and torture and sipping
16:10
margaritas with you.
16:12
I mean, they were really trying to make
16:13
you look like you were hanging out with
16:15
somebody that they say is a gang member.
16:18
Oh, no.
16:19
Let's see what CBS.
16:20
We just.
16:21
I want to show our viewers some pictures
16:23
that the president.
16:25
Do you believe that this was the number
16:27
one topic on all three Sunday news shows?
16:31
This is what blows me away.
16:34
There's a lot going on.
16:35
We are under martial law.
16:37
People of El Salvador.
16:38
Bukele posted showing you and Abrego Garcia sitting
16:43
around what appears to be margaritas.
16:46
You have blamed him for trying to deceive
16:49
people with props.
16:51
After he posted those images, he also posted,
16:55
quote, I love chess.
16:56
Do you have any concerns that the Salvadoran
17:00
government used you as a pawn to make
17:03
their point that Abrego Garcia is doing well
17:07
and that he should stay where he is?
17:09
Oh, I see what she did there.
17:10
She said chess pawn.
17:12
OK, no.
17:14
In fact, the El Salvadoran government tried really
17:17
hard not to let me see him.
17:20
But I think they realized that that was
17:23
not a good look at the end of
17:25
the day.
17:25
I had press conferences in El Salvador with
17:29
local press and made the point that El
17:31
Salvador was.
17:32
Wait a minute.
17:33
How can there be local press under that
17:34
dictatorship of Bukele?
17:36
This doesn't make any sense.
17:38
Violating international law by not allowing anyone to
17:41
reach him, not his wife, not his lawyers,
17:44
nobody.
17:44
They realized that was a bad look.
17:46
So I'm glad I met him.
17:49
That was the purpose of my visit.
17:51
Yeah, but the glass.
17:52
Wait, hold on.
17:53
He just changed.
17:54
The purpose is different again.
17:56
It's perfect.
17:57
No, it's perfect.
17:58
He keeps changing it.
18:00
A new purpose.
18:01
Nobody.
18:02
They realized that was a bad look.
18:04
So I'm glad I met him.
18:06
That was the purpose of my visit.
18:09
You're right.
18:10
They go to great lengths to deceive people.
18:12
And that's what you saw because they.
18:14
Those evil Bitcoin people in El Salvador.
18:17
These government guys essentially told the waiters to
18:20
bring these drinks that appear to look like
18:23
margaritas to the table.
18:25
No one touched them.
18:26
I can go into the details about how
18:28
their whole scheme was set up.
18:30
But the reality is, if you look at
18:32
the photos, when I first sat down and
18:35
the ones at the end, you can see
18:36
that that was all staged.
18:37
They're trying to create the impression that this
18:39
is a guy in paradise.
18:41
When in fact, he's been in one of
18:42
the most notorious prisons in the world.
18:45
But his head wasn't shaven.
18:48
So he was not in that prison.
18:50
Here's the last one.
18:51
Kristen Welk, NBC.
18:52
Absolutely not.
18:53
They had no intention of letting me meet
18:56
with Abrego Garcia until they felt the pressure.
19:00
They felt the pressure from people saying, why
19:03
are you, you know, complicit in this illegal
19:06
scheme?
19:07
Why are you denying his wife, his lawyer,
19:09
anybody the opportunity to speak with him?
19:11
So my mission was to be able to
19:13
say that he is at least alive.
19:16
That was his mission.
19:17
A third mission.
19:19
A third mission.
19:20
The fourth.
19:20
That's the fourth.
19:21
That's the fourth mission.
19:23
He had a lot of missions, man.
19:25
You're right.
19:26
It's the lengths that both, you know, the
19:29
El Salvadorian president, Bukele, and Donald Trump will
19:32
go to to see people are boundless, right?
19:36
In this case, they did order the waiters,
19:39
the government people, to bring these two glasses
19:42
that, you know, appear to be margaritas.
19:45
I have no idea.
19:46
We didn't touch them.
19:48
And they tried to manipulate it to make
19:51
it look like Mr. Abrego Garcia's margarita had
19:54
been drunk.
19:54
In other words, the liquid was lower.
19:57
But they screwed me.
19:59
Hey, John, if you and I were going
20:02
to try and make this look like paradise,
20:04
I think we would have chosen some different
20:07
tactics.
20:08
Like I'd have girls in bikinis walking around.
20:11
You know, we'd have party lights, party people,
20:14
DJ thumping in the background.
20:17
Exactly.
20:17
No, no.
20:18
No, those stupid El Salvadorians.
20:19
We're going to put liquid in the glass.
20:22
Don't even know if it's salt or sugar.
20:24
And we're going to make one a little
20:25
lower so everyone will think that he's been
20:26
drinking it.
20:27
Screwed up in their scheme.
20:28
Because if you look at the rims of
20:31
the glasses, I don't know if it's salt
20:32
or sugar.
20:33
But there's no gap.
20:35
Who puts sugar on their margarita?
20:39
Is that a thing even?
20:43
There are drinks.
20:44
There are other drinks.
20:47
The whole thing is a joke.
20:49
Yeah, it is.
20:51
Nine seconds.
20:53
So nobody touched the margarita.
20:55
Stop.
20:55
The fact is that you're right.
20:58
These morning shows, this is their story.
21:00
We have a borderline bombing of Iran.
21:04
We have the crisis where Netanyahu is getting
21:07
shut down.
21:09
We have all kinds of – we have
21:11
the big protests over the weekend.
21:13
We have all these things going on.
21:15
And this publicity stunt.
21:18
Yes.
21:18
Because this guy is running for president, or
21:20
he thinks he is.
21:21
He doesn't have a prayer because he's a
21:23
moron.
21:25
Is the top of the news because obviously
21:27
somebody is coordinating this.
21:29
And it's not any of the news directors.
21:32
It's Chuck Schumer again.
21:36
I don't know.
21:37
The whole thing is stupid.
21:38
You know what?
21:39
First thing I thought was maybe the CIA
21:41
or somebody.
21:42
But once you mention Chuck Schumer, you're probably
21:45
right because it's so lame.
21:47
Yeah, that has to be a Schumerism.
21:50
A Schumer scheme.
21:52
It has to be.
21:53
It's so dumb.
21:55
And then, oh, they all do this.
21:58
Who cares?
21:59
I mean, we do, of course, because it's
22:02
just so stupid.
22:05
I'm going to be talking to a high
22:06
school in a couple of weeks, and they
22:09
want me to come in and talk about
22:10
propaganda.
22:12
Well, man.
22:12
Wait, wait.
22:13
Stop, stop, stop.
22:14
Yes.
22:15
What?
22:15
Yeah, this guy down the street, he teaches
22:18
a class in media communications.
22:21
It's an advanced placement class to, I guess,
22:25
10th, 11th graders.
22:28
And he wanted me to come in and
22:29
talk about propaganda.
22:31
I said, are you sure they're going to
22:31
be able to handle it?
22:33
Because they're going to see stuff they've never
22:35
seen before because they just never watch that
22:37
stuff.
22:39
You have to show this dumb stuff.
22:42
And then the senators all saying the same
22:44
thing.
22:45
Basically, I'm going to come in, play a
22:47
bunch of super cuts, say I'm the pod
22:48
father, drop my mic, and I'm out.
22:52
And that's what it's going to be.
22:53
And yell, go podcasting.
22:54
Go podcasting.
22:56
He said, the kids are really excited.
22:58
These kids don't know who I am.
23:00
Well, they know what podcasting is.
23:02
Kids are excited.
23:03
Who's this old fart coming in here?
23:04
No, no, he's not an old fart.
23:06
No, he's a young guy.
23:07
No, you.
23:10
Thank you.
23:12
Who's this boomer you brought in, Teach?
23:14
Teach.
23:15
Teach.
23:17
Who's ever used that term in the last
23:21
50 years?
23:22
Only a boomer.
23:23
Only a boomer.
23:24
Teach.
23:26
Oh, man.
23:28
All right.
23:30
So there is some very interesting news.
23:35
And I'm going to play it in.
23:37
Before you go on with these clips, would
23:42
anything interesting happen on the way back from
23:45
Amsterdam?
23:45
You usually have a story about going through
23:48
customs or some foul up or a last
23:53
ditch thing that you saw when you left
23:55
and you didn't realize this was that bad
23:58
over there.
23:59
And how's your daughter doing?
24:00
Okay.
24:01
Well, thank you for asking.
24:02
My daughter is doing very well.
24:05
And so I told her, I'm going to
24:07
see you on Friday.
24:08
Let's go to a nice restaurant.
24:10
Which turned out to be Japanese fusion.
24:13
We had seven courses.
24:14
It took four hours for them to serve
24:16
this thing.
24:17
That was a little long.
24:18
But before that, she arranged for us to
24:21
have a VR experience.
24:26
And it's a franchise called Zero Latency.
24:31
And imagine a Quonset hut in the middle
24:34
of South Rotterdam.
24:36
And so they've got a big room.
24:39
And you have walls.
24:41
Quonset hut.
24:42
It was a Quonset hut.
24:43
But a pretty high ceiling.
24:46
Quonset hut.
24:47
It was a Quonset hut.
24:48
I'm telling you.
24:48
It was open on one side.
24:50
And so you had this really big room.
24:53
And it has kind of a black floor
24:56
and walls with some stripes on it.
25:03
And so you play as a team.
25:05
The three of us.
25:06
You can do up to eight players.
25:08
You get your VR goggles.
25:09
You get your weapon.
25:11
Who's the third?
25:12
Oh, her fiance.
25:13
Kevin.
25:14
Oh, okay.
25:15
Kevin.
25:16
We like Kevin.
25:17
And so then you go in.
25:19
And then it takes a second to sync
25:21
up.
25:21
And we did the zombie apocalypse VR experience.
25:26
So you see each other.
25:29
You all look, of course.
25:30
You have an avatar.
25:31
It's photorealistic.
25:34
It has very much like a Doom feeling
25:36
to it.
25:36
Only higher resolution.
25:38
Do you remember the game Doom?
25:40
Another Boomer reference, everybody.
25:43
It was incredibly realistic.
25:47
Is it more like Doom or more like
25:49
Duke Nukem?
25:50
Oh, much more like Duke Nukem.
25:52
I mean, it was an advance.
25:53
But the, you know, it's basically first person
25:57
shooter, except you got your team.
25:59
You can switch guns.
26:00
You know, you see a gun.
26:02
You walk over toward it.
26:03
You grab the gun.
26:04
You got a plasma gun.
26:05
You can switch between, you know, grenades.
26:08
And you get a gatling gun.
26:10
Is there anything you're doing in the Quonset
26:12
hut that you can't do at home?
26:15
I got to tell you.
26:17
Well, it's big.
26:18
You need the space.
26:19
Because you're walking around, you know.
26:21
You're actually walking around.
26:23
Oh, yeah.
26:23
You're walking.
26:25
You move.
26:26
The thing that's kind of weird is, you
26:29
know, you want to walk up to the
26:31
elevator.
26:31
And it has a ramp.
26:33
And, of course, if you actually try to
26:34
walk up, like you're going to step on
26:35
the ramp, you're going to fall on your
26:36
face.
26:37
So you learn pretty quickly.
26:38
You just walk.
26:39
And then the ramp kind of adjusts to
26:41
you.
26:41
But it only took three minutes to get
26:43
used to it.
26:44
It was incredibly real.
26:47
So real that, you know, the zombies are
26:49
coming at you.
26:50
And then you hear in the headphones, there's
26:51
one gnawing at you behind you.
26:53
You turn around.
26:53
You blast him with the grenade.
26:55
And I actually got a physical response to
26:57
this.
26:59
I was tired after 30 minutes.
27:00
That was a tough day of fighting zombies.
27:03
Oh, God.
27:05
And I thought, this will never fly for
27:07
anything but this.
27:08
You can't live in this world.
27:12
It's very disassociative.
27:17
Wait, wait.
27:18
You said it won't fly for anything but
27:20
this?
27:21
Yeah, but games.
27:22
Zombie fighting?
27:22
Yeah, games, games.
27:23
It won't work for touring Paris?
27:27
No, no, no, no, no.
27:28
No.
27:30
Of course not.
27:32
No.
27:33
So I can't go on a cruise down
27:35
the canals in Venice?
27:38
Yeah, but you won't get the wind in
27:40
your face.
27:41
You know, zombies is already kind of a
27:43
surreal experience.
27:44
You don't need to have anything else.
27:46
Okay, so what you're predicting is it's a
27:48
dead end.
27:49
It's a dead end.
27:50
This is fun.
27:51
I mean, it's a great.
27:52
It's a fun dead end.
27:53
It's a fun, show title, fun dead end.
27:56
Yeah, that's basically what that is.
27:58
But to say that this would be like
28:02
the metaverse is going to be cool?
28:03
No, no.
28:05
You can't do more than a half hour
28:07
of this stuff.
28:08
And then you're just like, ah.
28:10
And then the thing is heavy on your
28:11
head.
28:12
But more importantly, I got a lot of
28:15
emails from people about my report from the
28:18
last show when I was in Amsterdam.
28:20
Yeah.
28:21
And it's interesting.
28:23
I think I was pretty clear telling everybody
28:25
that I was amongst the media elites and
28:28
that Taxi Eric, you know, he's the guy
28:31
that is saying, no, no, no.
28:32
We think Trump should have a statue.
28:34
Because I got a lot of similar emails
28:37
saying, you need to get out of Amsterdam.
28:40
It's not like that everywhere.
28:42
We're all against this, the global elites.
28:45
We love Trump.
28:48
I thought it was pretty clear what you
28:50
said.
28:52
You know, with a bunch of elitists that
28:54
were completely off the rails, and Taxi Eric
28:57
was a kind of foundational.
28:59
And then connected to reality in some funny
29:02
way, even though he almost got me killed.
29:04
Yeah, well, then, you know, that was, anyway.
29:11
So, but what I get from everybody is
29:14
the same thing.
29:15
The people who listen to No Agenda, and
29:17
I'm sure that, you know, there's other people
29:19
who don't listen to No Agenda.
29:20
Other groups who are all in.
29:23
But everybody is just talking amongst themselves.
29:26
No one's doing anything.
29:27
Not dissimilar to the United States.
29:30
Until Trump stood up and said, hey, this
29:32
nonsense is over.
29:34
So, everybody thinks it's crazy, it's no good.
29:37
But meanwhile, even this new government, the new
29:40
cabinet just steamrolls over everybody.
29:42
They get the same old, same old.
29:44
So, there's two emails I pulled out that
29:46
I want to share.
29:47
First one is from Nathan.
29:48
He says, Adam, as you know, Amsterdam is
29:51
extremely left.
29:52
Everyone is scared and angry.
29:54
In my class, this prevails as well.
29:55
I'm in the second of the Cygnus Gymnasium.
29:58
So, he's probably about 17.
30:01
When I ask why they are angry, they
30:03
say, Trump, Musk.
30:05
But they don't really know.
30:06
They're afraid of Trump becoming a dictator.
30:09
Usually their reason is that he is shutting
30:10
down all the institutions and putting pressure on
30:13
the legal system.
30:14
Real facts or examples?
30:16
Well, they never have those.
30:17
The most left voters also think a European
30:20
army is a good idea.
30:22
How it is regulated with taxation via your
30:24
carbon footprint is perfect.
30:27
These people will have to change themselves.
30:30
Now they only vote for the left.
30:32
With this, they think that their sins on
30:34
climate will be redeemed.
30:35
Even people closer to me find it hard
30:37
to keep thinking for themselves.
30:39
Family, who my father and I try to
30:41
explain as much, we can also panic.
30:44
Of course, because they can only see the
30:46
M5M, I find it increasingly difficult to restrain
30:49
myself.
30:49
And seeing people I love get so worked
30:51
up and frightened, everything they try seems to
30:55
succeed.
30:55
That would be the crazy people.
30:57
We as awakened people have to try and
31:00
help in some way.
31:01
Well, of course, this is exactly the problem.
31:03
No one is really helping.
31:04
But the one that really got me, because
31:07
this is universal.
31:08
And I've adjusted my cultural trauma.
31:11
It's just like COVID.
31:14
Europe never got out of COVID.
31:17
And to some degree, neither did the United
31:18
States.
31:19
People who are still mad about things, who
31:23
hate Musk, hate Trump.
31:27
They're the same people.
31:28
It's the same argument.
31:30
Vax, no vax.
31:31
Lockdown, no lockdown.
31:33
Social distancing, no social distancing.
31:35
Masks, no masks.
31:37
It's the same.
31:39
People never got out of it.
31:41
So it's just a replacement.
31:45
There's tons of masked people everywhere.
31:48
So this came from Beth, and she is
31:51
an expat in the U.K. And what's
31:54
interesting is this is the degree to which
31:58
she has been assimilated into the system.
32:02
And she says, I'm a dual U.K.
32:04
citizen, been in the U.K. for 15
32:06
years.
32:06
My husband is British.
32:07
Honestly, I love the U.K. It's definitely
32:10
my home.
32:11
And in spite of the growing dystopia, my
32:14
situation is comfortable and good.
32:16
Here's my report.
32:17
Now, remember, she likes it there.
32:20
Her situation is comfortable and good.
32:23
So she goes on.
32:25
I saw the writing on the wall years
32:27
ago and left social media entirely just to
32:29
be safe.
32:30
I'm a major TERF, and I knew my
32:32
views would get me in trouble if I
32:34
didn't.
32:35
I have a skilled but blue-collar job,
32:38
and basically everyone on the factory floor would
32:40
agree with the no-agenda perspective.
32:42
A few are fans of Trump, others conservative,
32:45
but hate his style.
32:47
I voted for— Okay, let's stop.
32:48
I want to make sure that everyone out
32:49
there knows that TERF, we haven't used that
32:51
term for a while, trans-exclusionary radical feminist.
32:57
Yeah.
32:58
No trans women.
33:00
I think everyone knows what TERF is.
33:02
But okay.
33:02
I don't know.
33:03
No, I'm this good.
33:05
I voted for Bobby the Op because I'm
33:06
a coward.
33:07
And this way, when I'm with someone with
33:10
TDS—you could also say you're a libertarian.
33:12
I'm a coward.
33:13
This way, when I'm with someone with TDS,
33:15
I can say things like, well, I never
33:17
voted for him, but surely such and such
33:19
policy might actually turn out to be good.
33:22
Remember, she's comfortable and loves her life.
33:25
Management is another story.
33:27
My boss thought Trump created NAFTA.
33:29
And he's a big racist, of course.
33:31
I get a lot of comments from educated
33:33
people who assume that I also have Trump
33:35
derangement syndrome, which I do not.
33:38
Another thing I've heard multiple British people say
33:41
is that they thought we were supposed to
33:43
help others.
33:44
But Trump only cares about himself and how
33:46
they had to explain this to their children.
33:50
I live in Oxfordshire and work in an
33:52
affluent village but live in a very average
33:54
town.
33:54
Nobody has stopped driving their Teslas.
33:57
Our friend group, bless them, are quite intelligent.
33:59
People who haven't got a clue about U
34:01
.S. politics.
34:02
One friend is still obsessed with Trump being
34:04
a Russian asset and mentions it a lot.
34:07
Another friend thought that abolishing the Department of
34:09
Education meant no more public schools in the
34:11
whole country.
34:15
They seem to get most of their ideas
34:17
about America from Reddit.
34:20
Of course, they still believe in safe and
34:22
effective.
34:23
As for free speech arrests, they are both
34:25
ignorant and dismissive.
34:27
It's not happening.
34:28
And even if it was, then people must
34:30
have deserved it.
34:31
Seems to be the opinion.
34:33
Pretty grim.
34:34
The elder generation is split.
34:35
My husband's aunt, who is a lovely woman,
34:37
is terrified by what she views as a
34:39
rejection of the mechanisms which brought peace to
34:42
post-war Europe.
34:43
Trump mates are sick to her stomach.
34:45
My lovely work mom in the second half
34:47
of her 70s also hates Trump but is
34:49
disgusted by the way the country is going.
34:51
Namely, she doesn't feel safe in Reddingtown anymore
34:54
due to dodgy Turkish barbers popping up everywhere
34:57
and loads of men just hanging around.
35:00
Her daughter lives in Dover.
35:01
She tells me all the time how many
35:03
boats of illegal migrants come in every week.
35:05
We all know we aren't allowed to talk
35:07
about this stuff.
35:08
My own town is very average.
35:09
On Saturday, you'll see families and people of
35:12
all walks of life in the open-air
35:13
shopping center area.
35:15
But recently, I was in town on a
35:17
Friday afternoon.
35:17
It was a different vibe.
35:19
Loads of men just hanging around.
35:21
My hairdresser told me about men harassing her
35:24
young apprentices, 16 years old.
35:25
I hate this vibe.
35:28
Thanks for a great show, says Beth, who
35:30
I will remind you started off by saying,
35:32
I love the UK.
35:33
My life is comfortable and good.
35:36
Beth, you need to reassess your life.
35:40
This is not comfortable and good.
35:42
This is the lobster getting boiled in the
35:44
pot.
35:45
That's exactly right.
35:46
Yes, this is the slow, where you put
35:49
it in and you turn the heat up.
35:52
I realize, just look at all this nonsense
35:55
of people arguing.
35:57
You sent me a video this morning of
35:59
Liberty Lockdown podcast, of people arguing about Douglas
36:03
Murray and Dave Smith and Joe Rogan and
36:07
Ian.
36:08
What's his name?
36:10
I don't even know half of these people.
36:12
I'm like, I am so happy.
36:17
I'm really happy that we do the Noah
36:19
Jenner Show under the constraints we have self
36:23
-imposed on ourselves as it comes to expansion,
36:27
growth, and finances.
36:28
Because we are the only ones who just
36:32
have, there's no reason for us to say
36:35
anything but exactly what we feel.
36:38
I think everyone else's audience captured.
36:40
I think there's a huge fear of being
36:44
deplatformed by the group.
36:46
Not by government.
36:47
Whatever this group is.
36:49
By the group, yes.
36:50
We've talked about this before.
36:52
That's why I put the word internecine in
36:54
there.
36:55
Yes, I even put that in the show
36:56
notes so people can, let me see, I
36:58
wrote it down here.
37:01
Internecine, I-N-T-E-R-N-E
37:03
-C-I-N-E, relating to or involving
37:08
conflict within a group, it comes from fought
37:15
to the death.
37:19
Anyway, there is a real problem going on
37:23
everywhere.
37:24
And the United States is not immune to
37:28
it.
37:29
And I really, truly think that this is
37:32
still COVID trauma.
37:34
That people just want to fight with each
37:36
other about something.
37:37
Because we're still all mad.
37:39
We're all still, you and I aren't.
37:40
But we're mad.
37:42
We're hurt.
37:42
We're angry.
37:43
We feel discriminated.
37:45
We feel, you know, it doesn't matter what
37:48
side you're on.
37:49
And President Trump just triggers it all time
37:52
and time again.
37:53
He's very good at it.
37:55
And I think that he probably egged on
37:57
this whole 420 martial law thing just to
38:01
get people crazy.
38:04
He still seems to kind of be doing
38:05
that stuff.
38:07
You know, there is a phenomenon.
38:10
This just came to mind.
38:13
Bill Ziff, one of the first and early
38:16
billionaires I ever knew, ran to Davis.
38:19
How many do you know these days?
38:21
How many do you hang out with?
38:22
I don't hang out with any.
38:24
Well, I hang out with one.
38:25
But it's beside the point.
38:27
But Ziff, I used to hang out with
38:28
Ziff a little bit.
38:29
But the thing about him is that he
38:31
was always saying one thing and doing another
38:35
in certain kinds of funny ways.
38:36
And somebody who really knew him well and
38:39
worked for him forever during the early days
38:41
of his publishing empire, he says that Ziff
38:45
had this sick way of matching people up
38:50
and putting people together that he knew would
38:52
cause a conflict.
38:54
And he believed that Ziff thought it was
38:57
fun.
38:58
It was like he was like just amused
39:01
himself.
39:02
It's like the king is, let's put these
39:03
two people together and see what happens.
39:07
And it was, I think, from this extreme
39:10
amount of wealth he had.
39:11
He was one of the richest men in
39:12
the world at the time.
39:14
And he developed this screwball way of looking
39:18
at things and the screwball way of acting.
39:21
It worked out, except for the people that
39:24
were placed in these situations where they'd always
39:28
get in trouble.
39:29
And maybe Trump has got – maybe it's
39:32
something to do with the wealth.
39:33
He's really the only true billionaire.
39:35
Oh, you think it's a billionaire thing?
39:37
I'm beginning to think it might be something
39:40
because Trump is the only true billionaire.
39:43
Vanderbilt was never president of the United States
39:45
and other super rich people never got that
39:47
far because they never bothered.
39:50
Too much work.
39:52
I can make a mess back here by
39:54
signing checks.
39:56
But this idea of just doing little things
40:00
and moving things around like a chess game
40:03
and seeing what happens.
40:05
Just see what happens.
40:05
Well, let's see what happens.
40:06
I know these two people don't get along.
40:08
I wonder if Joe works for Jim if
40:11
that would be really funny.
40:12
Oh, wait, what about if Jim worked for
40:14
Joe?
40:15
That would be even funnier.
40:16
There's a movement around.
40:18
I just get this sense that something like
40:21
that might be going on by the basis
40:22
of what you just said, which might be
40:24
true.
40:25
Trump is triggering this, and he's doing it
40:27
in some conscious way on purpose.
40:30
Well, let's look at the next item here
40:33
on the agenda, which is clearly an art
40:36
of the deal move.
40:37
But we have to go back to three
40:39
days ago when it looked like we had
40:43
something on the table.
40:44
We had papers.
40:45
We were signing.
40:46
After months of delays, a minerals deal is
40:48
closer than ever.
40:50
On Thursday, Ukraine said talks with the U
40:52
.S. delivered good results.
40:54
Just hours later, the two sides signed a
40:57
so-called memorandum of intent.
40:59
I love this.
41:00
A memorandum of intent is, I would say,
41:04
completely worthless.
41:06
Yeah, I agree.
41:07
A memorandum of intent is the way to
41:10
kind of put the negotiations on hold because
41:13
you're going nowhere.
41:14
I'm going to write a memo that we
41:17
intend to, I don't know, continue.
41:20
Or the final agreement.
41:22
The deal would give the U.S. access
41:24
to Ukraine's mineral wealth in return for billions
41:27
in military aid.
41:28
Ukraine, for its part, wants strong security guarantees.
41:32
It sounds like they came up with exactly
41:34
the same deal.
41:37
Yeah, we'll protect our interests with some military
41:41
stuff.
41:41
And then Ukraine is yammering again.
41:43
But the process has been shaky.
41:45
A February signing fell through under chaotic circumstances.
41:50
Since then, Ukraine said that the terms have
41:52
constantly changed.
41:54
Media reports said the U.S. now has
41:56
changed repayment demands from $300 billion to $100
42:00
billion.
42:02
Hey, listen, Volodymyr, listen, listen, listen.
42:05
We're going to give you 60% discount.
42:10
All right?
42:10
Discount.
42:11
We go from $300 billion to $100 billion.
42:13
What are you yammering about, man?
42:15
Meanwhile, the Trump administration continued to face accusations
42:18
of echoing Putin, creating unease among Ukraine officials.
42:22
Just days ago, the U.S. envoy Steve
42:25
Whitkoff conveyed Moscow's proposal for a peace in
42:29
exchange for five Ukrainian regions.
42:31
I believe that Mr. Whitkoff has taken on
42:34
the strategy of the Russian side.
42:36
I think it is very dangerous.
42:40
Ukraine said it will not discuss territorial agreements
42:44
before a ceasefire, a choice they want under
42:47
U.S. security guarantees.
42:49
But so far, it's not clear how the
42:51
minerals deal would ensure Ukraine's security.
42:55
So I think they just redlined the original
42:57
agreement and scratched out $300 billion, said $100
42:59
billion.
43:00
OK, that's our final, final offer.
43:03
And before we get to the next round,
43:04
we have a little rest, a little pause.
43:07
It is Easter after all.
43:09
He has risen.
43:10
Tonight, in a surprise announcement, Vladimir Putin says
43:13
he's ordering a 30-hour Easter truce in
43:16
the war in Ukraine.
43:17
The brief ceasefire coming one day after President
43:20
Trump warned the U.S. will walk away
43:23
from stalled peace negotiations if there isn't progress
43:26
soon.
43:26
We're going to just take a pass, but
43:28
hopefully we won't have to do that.
43:31
President Zelensky tonight saying there's no trust in
43:34
words coming from Moscow, but that Ukraine is
43:37
open to U.S. proposals for a 30
43:39
-day ceasefire.
43:41
Another ceasefire.
43:42
So he's rolling everything back, going back to
43:45
a 30-day ceasefire, and then, of course,
43:47
we get the report that everybody has been
43:50
talking about, is where we're really at.
43:53
I think we're at the end of our
43:54
rope, people.
43:55
He's been pressing both Moscow and Kiev for
43:57
a truce, but so far Donald Trump has
44:00
failed in his bid to secure a ceasefire
44:01
in the Ukraine war.
44:03
On Friday, the U.S. president reiterated that
44:05
he wanted to clinch a deal quickly, but
44:08
said that the U.S. could ditch brokering
44:10
further talks unless progress is made soon.
44:13
No specific number of days, but quickly.
44:16
We want to get it done.
44:18
If for some reason one of the two
44:20
parties makes it very difficult, we're just going
44:24
to say you're foolish, you're fools, you're horrible
44:27
people, and we're going to just take a
44:29
pass, but hopefully we won't have to do
44:32
that.
44:32
I like this take a pass.
44:33
That's how you talk about any deal.
44:36
I'm glad you got the take a pass
44:39
thing.
44:39
You keep saying it.
44:40
Play this clip.
44:41
This is Ukraine, Trump, and Rubio, and this
44:44
is from PBS, and I think that they're
44:47
trying to give us a different perspective than
44:50
reality here.
44:52
The latest on the international effort to secure
44:54
a peace deal between Russia and Ukraine.
44:57
As those negotiations have stalled, there is a
45:00
new ultimatum from the Trump administration.
45:02
Earlier today, U.S. Secretary of State Marco
45:05
Rubio wrapped up a marathon series of talks
45:08
in Paris with both Ukrainian and top European
45:11
officials.
45:13
Rubio, on his way out, said the U
45:15
.S. may, quote, move on from trying to
45:18
broker a peace deal if progress isn't made
45:21
soon.
45:21
We're not going to continue with this endeavor
45:23
for weeks and months on end.
45:25
So we need to determine very quickly now,
45:27
and I'm talking about a matter of days,
45:29
whether or not this is doable over the
45:31
next few weeks.
45:33
If it is, we're in.
45:34
If it's not, then we have other priorities
45:37
to focus on as well.
45:39
In Washington, President Trump echoed that warning, but
45:42
stopped short of saying he's ready to walk
45:44
away.
45:45
He pushed back against the suggestion that Russia
45:48
is taking advantage of his patience.
45:51
I know when people are playing us, and
45:53
I know when they're not, and I have
45:55
to see an enthusiasm to want to end
45:57
it.
45:58
And I think I see that enthusiasm.
46:01
I think I see it from both sides.
46:03
But you're going to know soon.
46:08
No, nobody's playing me.
46:09
I'm trying to help.
46:11
All of this unfolded as the war grinds
46:14
on.
46:15
Russian missiles today rained down on the Ukrainian
46:17
city of Kharkiv.
46:19
Officials say one person was killed and nearly
46:21
100 others were wounded.
46:23
All right, what's your take?
46:25
Well, they make it sound as though Rubio
46:27
and Trump are differing opinions of things, and
46:32
it's a conflict.
46:33
Oh, really?
46:33
I didn't get that at all.
46:35
I thought, well, there's been, I've been listening
46:40
to a lot of these NPR, PBS things,
46:43
and they've been trying to promote that idea,
46:46
and I think it was kind of promoted
46:47
in there.
46:48
But I don't see it, because Trump's saying,
46:51
you know, we're out of here.
46:53
Sounds pretty much what Rubio says.
46:56
I have my favorite Canadian, Andrew Rosoulis, with
47:00
his analysis.
47:02
And I've played him before.
47:03
Andrew Rosoulis, he's a former war guy in
47:07
Canada.
47:07
Now he's a consultant.
47:09
He's a war guy.
47:10
He knows war.
47:11
You like him.
47:12
When you hear him, you'll remember.
47:14
What do you make of the news that
47:16
the U.S. may walk away from the
47:17
peace talks if it's not possible to imminently
47:21
or quickly end the war in Ukraine?
47:23
It's a very important development, but we have
47:25
to put it in context.
47:26
What happened Thursday?
47:28
Rubio, on his way out to the airport,
47:30
said, after having that meeting in Paris, which
47:33
included the Americans, the Europeans and the Ukrainians,
47:37
and he said, you know, if we're not
47:38
going to get a deal soon, we're walking
47:40
away.
47:41
So why did he say that?
47:42
Well, at that meeting, Vitkov, who was on
47:45
the American delegation, and he's Trump's point person
47:49
on this, basically went to Russia, went to
47:52
or talked to Ukrainians, talked to Europeans, and
47:55
put together what he believes is the best
47:58
possible deal for a ceasefire, a comprehensive ceasefire.
48:02
And it includes the following.
48:03
One, the Russians keep all the territory they
48:06
currently hold militarily.
48:07
Two, the Ukrainians do not get NATO.
48:10
Three, there are sanctions relief put in place
48:13
for Russia, but Ukraine remains sovereign.
48:17
So there was a lot of pushback from
48:19
the Ukrainians and the Europeans to this plan,
48:22
saying that it caters too much to the
48:25
Russians.
48:25
The American position is it reflects battlefield reality.
48:28
And that's where we're at.
48:30
Yeah, they don't want that.
48:32
The Europeans want war.
48:35
They don't want to stop.
48:37
They're all in on this.
48:38
The way I see it, and the Canadians
48:40
and the Australians.
48:43
So what happens if the U.S. walks?
48:45
Donald Trump said that ending this war would
48:48
be the feather in his cap when it
48:51
comes to foreign policy.
48:52
Did he actually say that?
48:55
Hey, this will be the feather in my
48:56
cap?
48:57
I don't think so.
48:58
A feat that he wanted to accomplish.
49:00
If he is out and he's negotiating...
49:02
No, he promised he would end it within
49:03
24 hours.
49:04
That's what he actually said.
49:05
But he was being ironic.
49:07
Day one.
49:08
Yeah, day one.
49:09
What does this mean?
49:10
Let me just say there's a meeting in
49:12
London next week with the same people, same
49:15
parties.
49:15
We will see what happens there.
49:17
It's the last ditch.
49:18
And April 30th is 100 days anniversary of
49:22
the America of Trump's presidency.
49:24
We still have that time, I believe, to
49:26
secure a deal.
49:28
So having said that, assuming there's no deal,
49:31
to answer your question, it would certainly favor
49:33
the Russians.
49:34
The Ukrainians would have to rely solely on
49:37
the Europeans in Canada, to what degree in
49:39
Australia.
49:40
But basically, they could not get the Patriot
49:42
missile systems.
49:43
They could not get the intelligence required.
49:46
Russia would increase the momentum it has already
49:49
on the battlefield, which is just to their
49:51
advantage.
49:52
They would increase it even furthermore.
49:54
And basically, the Ukrainians would be left with
49:57
the Europeans and Canadians to sort it out
49:59
themselves.
50:00
Not a very good position.
50:01
And then, of course, can the EU, can
50:05
Europe and Canada and Australia, can they fill
50:08
the gap left by those turncoat Americans?
50:11
Is this enough?
50:12
Canadians, Europeans, some other international allies, can they
50:16
fill that void if the U.S. steps
50:18
away in terms of that key military support?
50:21
No, they cannot.
50:22
They can sustain the Ukrainians in a defensive
50:25
mode for a while, while the Ukrainians try
50:27
to wear down the Russians and secure a
50:30
better deal than they're getting now.
50:32
That is not a highly likely outcome.
50:35
Because also, I repeat, the Americans have the
50:38
Patriot missile systems, nobody else has them, and
50:41
the Ukrainians need them for air defense.
50:43
And two, it's the intelligence.
50:45
Americans provide Ukrainians with targeting information that only
50:49
the Americans can provide.
50:50
So finally then, what was really needed has
50:54
already happened.
50:55
The global stage has already changed, seemingly irreversibly,
51:02
and back to the old ways of the
51:04
old days, of the boomer days.
51:05
What is the biggest geopolitical concern about Russia
51:08
and some of its allies, like China, like
51:10
North Korea, now that U.S. has assumed
51:13
this position?
51:14
Well, we're very clearly beyond the liberal rules
51:17
-based order of 1991 or 1945.
51:20
Pick your year.
51:20
We are back to a much more traditional
51:23
realpolitik, power politics international system, in which the
51:27
great powers compete against each other, sometimes politically,
51:31
economically, and militarily, when things come to that
51:34
point.
51:35
It's all a question of equilibrium and balance
51:37
of power.
51:38
And basically, the big boys set the stage,
51:41
and the smaller, weaker powers have to adjust
51:44
to that reality.
51:45
That, I'm afraid, is the new reality that
51:47
we're going into.
51:49
That's it?
51:50
I think that's it.
51:51
Well, I have a different take on this,
51:53
what could possibly happen if they don't go
51:56
along with Trump.
51:57
Which they should, and get this over with,
52:00
but they just seem reluctant, like you say.
52:04
Europeans can do more than just be defensive.
52:08
They can put their boots on the ground
52:11
in Ukraine.
52:13
They want to form an army anyway.
52:15
Let's put some German and French.
52:17
The French have been promising troops.
52:20
Macron, you know, and his wife.
52:28
Well put.
52:29
Put the French troops in there, and then
52:31
the Germans can put their troops in there.
52:33
Everyone can just load up, and so the
52:35
Ukrainians can have some backup, and then they
52:38
can drag this thing on for everybody.
52:39
And how do you think that's going to
52:40
work out when you get dead German, French,
52:43
and British kids coming home in body bags?
52:46
How's that going to work out in Europe?
52:48
That's going to be...
52:50
They're going to twist it in such a
52:52
way that, look at what these Russians have
52:54
been doing to our kids.
52:57
They're going to do what they always do.
52:59
They make it look like, oh, this is
53:00
terrible.
53:01
Now we need revenge for the dead kids.
53:05
It's doable.
53:06
They want to do it.
53:09
Is that a better outcome?
53:12
No, it's not a better outcome.
53:13
It's going to be a disaster, but that's
53:15
what they want to do, and there's nothing
53:16
to stop them.
53:17
That's what I said.
53:17
They want war.
53:19
We're saying the same thing.
53:20
Yeah, you said that as the premise, and
53:21
I'm just saying here's how it's going to
53:23
happen.
53:24
Oh, I sure hope not.
53:27
Well, if they don't go along with Trump,
53:29
that's exactly where it's headed.
53:31
There's no other way.
53:33
Well, maybe...
53:33
Because if you're telling me you're over there,
53:36
or were, and everyone's thinking the Russians are
53:39
going to march in and take over all
53:41
of Europe any minute now, we've got to
53:42
stop them somewhere, we've got to go to
53:44
Ukraine to do it, to listen to our
53:45
boys there.
53:46
People are putting go bags together, man, with
53:48
Band-Aids.
53:49
Yes, go bags.
53:51
With matches and Band-Aids.
53:53
That'll do the trick.
53:54
And long-wave radio receivers so they can
53:58
get the BBC World Service.
54:02
It's pathetic.
54:04
It's so crazy that people can't see what
54:06
is going on, how stupid this whole thing
54:08
is, and they've bought it hook, line, and
54:11
sinker.
54:13
They really have.
54:15
In general, the majority.
54:17
Not the no-agenda people.
54:18
They're saying, they're going, this is bullcrap, but
54:20
meanwhile, suit up!
54:24
No?
54:27
I really, I felt very poorly most of
54:31
the time in Europe.
54:33
I did.
54:34
Felt poorly.
54:35
I felt poorly.
54:35
People, you can tell the people, again, whenever
54:38
I...
54:39
Top it off, they gave you a cold.
54:41
COVID, they gave me COVID, man.
54:43
It's just like, don't you see that you've
54:46
got to stop this nonsense?
54:49
And they're still pushing climate change and the
54:53
digital ID and more taxes and federal tax.
54:59
Carbon taxes.
55:00
Yes, carbon taxes.
55:01
Don't ever leave that out of the picture.
55:02
Climate change taxes.
55:05
It's just more and more and more and
55:07
more.
55:07
In fact, what was I reading?
55:09
This was a good one.
55:11
Big, where did this come from?
55:13
Some university.
55:14
That man's best friend may be nature's worst
55:17
enemy.
55:18
Study on pet dog fines.
55:21
So dogs apparently are the worst thing for
55:24
climate.
55:24
Oh yes, this has been going, this has
55:26
been for a few weeks now, this anti
55:28
-dog thing, which I think is actually Muslim
55:32
-based.
55:33
No, I think it's tax-based, because people
55:35
are sending me these articles.
55:36
Tax dogs?
55:37
Yes, you have to pay a dog tax,
55:39
of course.
55:40
That's perfect.
55:42
They're not going to come and kill Fido.
55:44
They're going to send you a bill.
55:46
You know how many dogs there are?
55:48
That's a bonanza.
55:49
And people will do anything for their animals.
55:51
Not for their kids.
55:53
Suit them up, ship them off to Ukraine.
55:55
But don't touch my dog.
55:56
I'll pay the fine.
55:59
Yeah.
56:00
Dog waste contributes to pollution in waterways, inhibits
56:03
plant growth.
56:05
Okay.
56:06
No, I think the dog thing, I think,
56:09
is a carbon tax gambit.
56:12
Which makes sense to me.
56:14
It could be.
56:14
Yeah, I think so.
56:16
So anyway, yes, I felt just very poorly,
56:18
because I know that people aren't stupid, but
56:21
they're all going along to get along.
56:24
I don't want to be unpopular.
56:27
You know, they're changing the name of the
56:29
school, Michiel de Ruyter.
56:31
Now, you don't know Michiel de Ruyter, but
56:33
he traveled the world when he was 12
56:37
years old.
56:37
And then when the British Army, the Armada,
56:40
the British Navy.
56:41
His famous Dutch kid.
56:42
Famous Dutch kid.
56:43
And then when the British Navy was sailing
56:45
over to Holland to basically capture the whole
56:49
country, he really started up the Dutch Navy.
56:52
The Marines went out there, they sailed out,
56:55
and they kicked the British back.
56:57
Well, now that school has to change its
57:00
name to be more inclusive.
57:03
Because, you know, it doesn't represent our society
57:07
anymore.
57:08
It's had that name for, I don't know,
57:09
100 years.
57:11
So we've seen this template.
57:13
They just found a different George Floyd moment.
57:17
And so they want to change the name
57:18
of the school.
57:19
And they go out there, interview the parents.
57:21
Oh, yes, I think we should change the
57:23
name of the school, because it really needs
57:25
to be more inclusive.
57:26
It's not of this time anymore.
57:28
It's an old name.
57:29
It's not good.
57:29
And then the interviewer says, so what do
57:33
you feel that I have to do?
57:34
You should ask someone who knows more about
57:36
history.
57:36
I don't really know.
57:38
They're afraid.
57:39
They're afraid of being ostracized.
57:41
And that's certainly the Dutch way, but I
57:43
think it's also a bit of the European
57:45
way.
57:46
No, we didn't know.
57:47
We didn't know.
57:50
No, no.
57:52
They need to do something.
57:54
But they need somebody.
57:56
They need, well, they needed Donald Trump.
57:59
Ultimately, that's why they hate him, because they
58:01
want him.
58:02
They want someone like that to stand up
58:04
and say no, to be just that guy.
58:11
That's the only thing I can make of
58:13
it.
58:14
Well, I think you're probably right.
58:16
I'm sad.
58:17
I'm sad for Europe.
58:19
I told Kevin, so you better put a
58:20
ring on it, man.
58:22
She's going to come over, and you're going
58:24
to get left behind.
58:26
Yes, I'm sorry.
58:27
A couple of Trump clips.
58:28
This is what's going on over here when
58:30
it comes to Trump.
58:31
This is a Trump loyalist clip.
58:34
This is the latest of the complaining going
58:38
on on PBS.
58:40
President Trump today advanced his plans to make
58:42
it easier to fire tens of thousands of
58:45
federal workers.
58:47
On social media, he said he would move
58:49
forward with a rule previously known as Schedule
58:52
F, which the administration said, quote, will allow
58:55
agencies to quickly remove employees from critical positions
58:59
who engage in misconduct, perform poorly, or undermine
59:03
the democratic process by intentionally subverting presidential directives.
59:08
Our White House correspondent, Laura Barone-Lopez, joins
59:11
us now with the latest.
59:13
Laura, President Trump promised that he would do
59:15
this.
59:16
So what does this do, and how many
59:18
workers would this affect?
59:20
So Schedule F changes the job classification of
59:22
nonpartisan federal workers, designating them as political appointees.
59:26
And so, bottom line, it makes it easier
59:28
for the president to fire anyone that he
59:30
considers disloyal and replace them with complete loyalists
59:33
to his cause and to his agenda.
59:35
Now, Schedule F was a part of the
59:37
Project 2025 blueprint from the Heritage Foundation.
59:41
And OMB director Russ Vogt was key in
59:44
drafting this during the first administration, but they
59:46
were not able to implement it during the
59:48
first administration.
59:49
I love the term blueprint.
59:50
This is good.
59:51
I read the document.
59:53
It was a Chad GPT embellished piece of
59:56
crap.
59:57
Way too long, single-spaced, unnecessary, long bios
1:00:01
of everybody.
1:00:02
It was very egotistical.
1:00:04
It had some things in there, like get
1:00:05
rid of Department of Education.
1:00:07
I think you could find that in other
1:00:08
documents.
1:00:10
But it was far from a blueprint.
1:00:15
Yeah, a blueprint's actually the simplistic...
1:00:18
Yeah, yeah.
1:00:18
Just nuts and bolts, as bold goes here.
1:00:25
Yeah, we're coming back to this thesis.
1:00:27
I mean, they have these memes they like
1:00:29
to throw at Trump and loyalists, he's loyalist.
1:00:33
In other words, you got people working against
1:00:36
you and your project, and you want to
1:00:40
get rid of them.
1:00:41
Yeah.
1:00:42
I don't see why, how is that different
1:00:44
than any other president or any other person
1:00:47
running a company or running a government agency
1:00:50
or being the president or anything else?
1:00:52
You don't want people working against you.
1:00:56
No.
1:00:57
So why wouldn't you want to get rid
1:00:59
of them?
1:00:59
Oh, because they're bringing in loyalists.
1:01:02
Okay, well...
1:01:03
Because they're triggering internal conflicts of their listeners.
1:01:10
Like, oh, well, imagine if someone could come
1:01:12
and just fire me for not doing my
1:01:14
job.
1:01:16
I'm telling you, this is all socialist nonsense.
1:01:20
This Schedule F, I mean, that was a
1:01:22
masterstroke.
1:01:23
Didn't he implement that in his first administration?
1:01:26
Well, he tried.
1:01:27
No, but I thought the law got passed
1:01:30
or something was put through, kind of like
1:01:32
as a...
1:01:34
Something never really got turned back.
1:01:36
No one changed it.
1:01:37
It was just sitting there, ready to be
1:01:38
implemented.
1:01:40
Well, that's what they're up to, and it
1:01:41
got all these people in a tizzy.
1:01:43
So here's the second part of this.
1:01:45
And RestVote said throughout the campaign that they
1:01:48
wanted to traumatize federal workers, and the White
1:01:51
House estimates that this will impact some 50
1:01:53
,000 federal workers that could be laid off,
1:01:57
but government experts say that that's probably a
1:01:59
minimum.
1:02:00
So what happens next?
1:02:01
And has there been, I imagine, pushback to
1:02:03
this?
1:02:04
There has been pushback.
1:02:06
But so first, what happens is a White
1:02:07
House official said that agencies have until April
1:02:09
20th to hand them the lists of who
1:02:12
they think should be reclassified in their agencies.
1:02:15
But Everett Kelley, the president of the American
1:02:17
Federation of Government Employees, said that this is
1:02:19
another in a series of deliberate moves by
1:02:22
this administration to corrupt the federal government and
1:02:24
replace qualified public servants with political cronies.
1:02:28
Stooges!
1:02:28
Cronies!
1:02:28
The AFG says that they are going to
1:02:29
split the administration, and they're the largest union
1:02:32
representing federal workers.
1:02:33
So this is part of a much bigger
1:02:35
picture of Trump's war with the federal government.
1:02:38
That is.
1:02:39
It is.
1:02:39
Now we have a war with the federal
1:02:41
government.
1:02:42
Oh, everything is a war.
1:02:44
Everything is a war.
1:02:45
Blueprint, playbook, war.
1:02:48
That is.
1:02:48
It is.
1:02:49
And so this all comes as President Trump
1:02:51
and Elon Musk's team have instituted firings across
1:02:54
the board.
1:02:55
Yesterday, the Trump administration moved to fire some
1:02:57
1,500 employees at the Consumer Financial Protection
1:03:01
Bureau.
1:03:02
That's most of the agency, William.
1:03:04
And today, a federal judge paused those firings,
1:03:07
calling it deeply concerning.
1:03:08
And that the firings violated an earlier injunction.
1:03:12
Now when you, based on our reporting as
1:03:14
well as a New York Times analysis, when
1:03:15
you zoom out, essentially, there are more than
1:03:18
132,000 workers that have either been fired
1:03:21
or pressured to take buyouts since Trump has
1:03:24
taken office.
1:03:25
We spoke to Don Moynihan, a public policy
1:03:27
professor at University of Michigan, who said that
1:03:30
this essentially defeats the purpose, this Schedule F,
1:03:33
of a nonpartisan civil service.
1:03:35
He said that in the end goal, this
1:03:37
is about imposing loyalty tests, and that targeting
1:03:41
bureaucracy in this way is a hallmark trait
1:03:44
of authoritarian regimes.
1:03:46
Practically, it could also mean that there's some
1:03:48
favoritism that is instituted when it comes to
1:03:51
who gets government contracts.
1:03:54
Oh, oh, there it is.
1:03:55
It's about the government contracts, and that's where
1:03:57
Elon comes back into play.
1:03:59
Yeah, it's about the government contracts.
1:04:01
It's about the money.
1:04:02
It's about the free money.
1:04:03
It's really what it's about.
1:04:04
It's not about partisanship or...
1:04:07
I mean, the idea...
1:04:08
Oh, it's the hallmark of authoritarian governments.
1:04:12
This is the way Chicago's been run forever.
1:04:14
Is that ever?
1:04:15
That's the way it goes.
1:04:17
Everything's partisan.
1:04:17
Ever since the Polish built it, yeah.
1:04:19
Well, on that, here's a clip about Elon
1:04:21
and government contracts.
1:04:24
SpaceX is fronting a bid to build President
1:04:26
Trump's proposed Golden Dome missile defense system, a
1:04:30
satellite-based shield designed to detect and stop
1:04:34
long-range attacks.
1:04:35
The company is working with Palantir and drone
1:04:38
maker Anduril on a concept that would launch
1:04:41
hundreds of satellites into low-Earth orbit to
1:04:45
track threats in real time.
1:04:47
Another fleet, about 200 satellites, would carry strike
1:04:50
capabilities like missiles or directed-energy weapons.
1:04:55
Hey, you don't hear that very often these
1:04:57
days.
1:04:57
Directed-energy weapons.
1:04:59
How you laughed at me about my directed
1:05:01
-energy weapons.
1:05:02
I still laugh.
1:05:03
SpaceX is leading the custody layer, satellites that
1:05:07
track incoming threats in real time.
1:05:09
Early design costs are estimated at $6 billion
1:05:12
to $10 billion.
1:05:14
Billions.
1:05:14
Instead of the government owning the system, SpaceX
1:05:17
is pitching a subscription model.
1:05:20
I love this!
1:05:21
Yeah, President Trump, you're behind on your monthly
1:05:25
payment.
1:05:26
Do you need a payment plan?
1:05:28
Because we have to turn you off.
1:05:29
You opted for the subscription service.
1:05:32
The Pentagon would pay for access similar to
1:05:35
a service, an approach that could speed up
1:05:38
development but raises questions about long-term...
1:05:41
Hold on, stop.
1:05:42
I don't know how that could speed up
1:05:43
development.
1:05:45
Defense as a service.
1:05:47
We have software as a service.
1:05:49
DAS, DAS, DAS, DAS, yes!
1:05:52
DAS, software as a service.
1:05:53
Give me a break.
1:05:55
I think it's great.
1:05:56
Defense as a service.
1:05:58
Yes, John and I, we are consultants in
1:06:01
the DAS...
1:06:03
In the DAS space, space, space.
1:06:05
Space, space, DAS space.
1:06:07
And we can recommend the right things for
1:06:10
you.
1:06:10
You need a subscription to this, you need
1:06:12
a subscription to Palantir.
1:06:13
Now, Palantir has many subscriptions.
1:06:16
It's all part of DAS.
1:06:17
I mean, you want the drones?
1:06:18
On-demand drones.
1:06:20
On-demand, just whenever you want them.
1:06:22
You just insert a quarter and the drones
1:06:24
fly.
1:06:24
D-O-D, drones on demand.
1:06:28
That could speed up development, but raises questions
1:06:31
about long-term control and oversight.
1:06:34
Over 180 companies have shown interest, including Lockheed,
1:06:39
Boeing, and Northrop.
1:06:41
But SpaceX's existing satellite network and launch capability
1:06:45
may give it a head start.
1:06:47
Yeah, no kidding.
1:06:49
I love the whole idea.
1:06:51
And we can also, you know, other countries,
1:06:53
you want a subscription to our service?
1:06:56
Yeah, that's great.
1:06:57
You pay monthly.
1:06:58
It's exactly the same as the little...
1:07:00
Yeah, you pay monthly.
1:07:02
And of course, you know, I'm sorry, no
1:07:05
war from midnight to three.
1:07:07
We're doing upgrades.
1:07:10
The system will be down.
1:07:13
404, hello, Paige.
1:07:15
Sorry, we're under maintenance right now.
1:07:18
No, can't do it.
1:07:21
Yeah, it's great.
1:07:22
This is great.
1:07:23
I'm very excited about these things.
1:07:26
Okay, firings.
1:07:28
Now, this is interesting because at no point
1:07:30
did the president actually say he wanted to
1:07:32
or he would fire Fed...
1:07:37
Is it President Jerome Powell?
1:07:39
Is it the President of the Federal Reserve?
1:07:43
Head.
1:07:43
Is it head?
1:07:45
Head of the Federal Reserve.
1:07:46
The Fed head.
1:07:47
He's too late and always wrong.
1:07:49
That's how President Trump characterized the head of
1:07:52
the U.S. Federal Reserve, Jerome Powell.
1:07:54
The U.S. President, unhappy with Powell, threatened
1:07:56
to fire him.
1:07:57
If I want him out, he'll be out
1:07:59
of there real fast.
1:08:00
Believe me.
1:08:00
No, he did not say he was going
1:08:02
to fire him.
1:08:03
He said he'll be out of there real,
1:08:04
real fast.
1:08:06
Everyone's saying that he threatened to fire him,
1:08:07
but he did not say that.
1:08:10
And I don't think he has to say
1:08:11
that, but that's how it's been taken.
1:08:13
And to fire him.
1:08:14
If I want him out, he'll be out
1:08:15
of there real fast.
1:08:16
Believe me.
1:08:17
Trump criticized the Fed's chair for not cutting
1:08:20
the U.S. interest rate, which is at
1:08:21
more than 4%, unlike the European Central Bank,
1:08:24
which cut theirs.
1:08:25
We have a Federal Reserve chairman that is
1:08:28
playing politics, somebody that I've never been very
1:08:31
fond of, actually.
1:08:32
But he's playing politics.
1:08:34
Interest rates should be down now.
1:08:36
They should be coming down.
1:08:37
In Europe, as you know, they reduced them,
1:08:40
I guess, seven times.
1:08:41
On Wednesday, Jerome Powell suggested that it was
1:08:44
Trump's tariffs which were causing economic uncertainty and
1:08:47
preventing the Federal Reserve from lowering the rate.
1:08:49
The administration is, as I mentioned in my
1:08:51
remarks, is implementing significant policy changes, and particularly
1:08:55
trade now is the focus.
1:08:57
And the effects of that are likely to
1:08:59
move us away from our goals.
1:09:01
So unemployment is likely to go up as
1:09:03
the economy slows, in all likelihood, and inflation
1:09:06
is likely to go up as tariffs find
1:09:08
their way.
1:09:08
But can Donald Trump put an early end
1:09:10
to Powell's mandate like he says he can?
1:09:12
Many legal experts believe this would be difficult.
1:09:15
The institution is supposed to be independent of
1:09:18
the U.S. administration.
1:09:19
But because a court hasn't ruled on the
1:09:21
matter before, no one can say for certain
1:09:23
what would happen.
1:09:24
And President Trump has been defying many political
1:09:26
norms since returning to office in January.
1:09:28
As for Powell, he said he would complete
1:09:30
his term until 2026 and would not resign
1:09:33
if asked to do so by the president.
1:09:35
Yeah, but we need to get those interest
1:09:38
rates down for the refi in 2025.
1:09:43
So, you know, but the Federal Reserve is,
1:09:45
you know, this is the big joke.
1:09:47
This Federal Reserve's never been, they've always been
1:09:50
off.
1:09:52
Their timing has sucked.
1:09:53
It's never been right.
1:09:55
No, but I don't think changing it out
1:09:57
is going to make any difference.
1:09:58
No, it's not going to change anything.
1:10:00
You know, we need the Mar-a-Lago
1:10:02
Accords.
1:10:03
This is what has to happen.
1:10:04
That'll put the pressure on.
1:10:05
And Fifi, Fifi Lagarde over there in the
1:10:11
EU, the European Central Bank, she is the
1:10:13
Jay Powell of Europe.
1:10:15
She's getting a little nervous.
1:10:18
You know, she presents, so they lowered the
1:10:20
interest rate now.
1:10:21
They're down to 2.25%, I believe, just
1:10:25
in time to pour on some more debt.
1:10:29
And she, I think the Mar-a-Lago
1:10:32
Accords are coming and I think the Stablecoin
1:10:35
is on its way because she gave a
1:10:36
very nervous response about Stablecoin.
1:10:40
On the issue of Stablecoins, you know that
1:10:43
we have regulation in place.
1:10:45
It's called MICAR.
1:10:47
It is effective.
1:10:49
It's currently under review and consultation for possible
1:10:53
improvements.
1:10:53
And I'm delighted that this is the case
1:10:55
because we are facing a constant evolution of
1:10:59
those digital payments, of those cross-border payments,
1:11:02
of those Stablecoins, which I would put in
1:11:06
a very separate category from the cryptos.
1:11:10
Yeah, because they're dollars, that's why.
1:11:12
Cryptoassets or however you want to call them.
1:11:14
Cryptos.
1:11:14
So the Stablecoins are a different animal.
1:11:17
And clearly having a good, solid regulation that
1:11:21
constitutes the framework within which they can operate,
1:11:24
I think is paramount and has been understood
1:11:28
by the European Union, by the commissions, by
1:11:30
various authorities in charge of those matters.
1:11:32
And will be reviewed in order to make
1:11:36
sure that it procures a safe harbour for
1:11:38
those initiatives.
1:11:39
But let me take the opportunity of this
1:11:41
to acknowledge that for the first time in
1:11:44
our monetary policy statement, we refer to the
1:11:47
digital euro.
1:11:48
And that should be a clear signal that
1:11:50
not only do we stand ready and do
1:11:53
the hard work that is incumbent upon us,
1:11:55
but it also acknowledges the fact that other
1:11:58
European authorities are hopefully going to accelerate the
1:12:02
pace at which we can deliver.
1:12:04
I think she's afraid that the Stablecoin is
1:12:07
going to flood her market.
1:12:11
What Stablecoin are we talking about?
1:12:13
Any Stablecoin will be an American dollar-backed
1:12:17
Stablecoin.
1:12:18
She doesn't want people using Stablecoins.
1:12:21
She's like, but we've got the digital euro
1:12:23
coming.
1:12:23
We've got our CBDC.
1:12:25
This is what we want.
1:12:25
We don't want your Stablecoins.
1:12:28
Well, I don't blame her.
1:12:30
No, of course not.
1:12:32
We have regulations about that stuff.
1:12:35
No Stablecoin for you.
1:12:37
Don't use Stablecoin, people.
1:12:38
Don't use it.
1:12:39
It's no good.
1:12:39
You want our digital euro.
1:12:46
No cryptos.
1:12:47
It's a different animal from the cryptos.
1:12:50
The cryptos.
1:12:52
It's the trillion-dollar coin, John.
1:12:54
It's coming.
1:12:55
The trillion-dollar coin is the answer.
1:12:57
It is the answer.
1:12:58
It always is.
1:12:58
In the end, the Simpsons predicted it, so
1:13:01
you know it's going to happen eventually.
1:13:03
I've got an offbeat clip just to take
1:13:06
kind of a break.
1:13:09
This is a very strange clip about something
1:13:13
that I thought was probably the most underreported
1:13:17
story.
1:13:17
Well, it's totally just underreported, but it's also
1:13:21
the most interesting story I think came out
1:13:24
all week.
1:13:24
And you'd think they would have covered it
1:13:26
on these Sunday morning shows because it's a
1:13:29
major event.
1:13:30
This is the Wisconsin story.
1:13:32
And in another court ruling over the power
1:13:35
of the executive branch, in Wisconsin today, the
1:13:38
state Supreme Court upheld a very unique partial
1:13:42
veto power that the governor has.
1:13:44
Governor Tony Evers used that power back in
1:13:47
2023 to lock in a school funding increase
1:13:51
for the next 400 years.
1:13:53
At the heart of the case was Evers'
1:13:55
ability to veto even the tiniest parts of
1:13:58
a bill to dramatically alter its meaning.
1:14:01
By striking individual words and numbers in the
1:14:04
legislation, he approved more school revenue increases until
1:14:08
literally the year 2425.
1:14:12
Wisconsin Supreme Court has been embroiled in national
1:14:15
politics recently with Elon Musk pouring millions into
1:14:18
a race to back a conservative judge who
1:14:21
lost.
1:14:22
It was the most expensive judicial contest in
1:14:25
American history.
1:14:26
So you can literally stripe away the word
1:14:31
like...
1:14:33
Not.
1:14:34
You could take the word should not exceed
1:14:37
and then just take away the word not
1:14:38
and it should exceed.
1:14:40
Yes.
1:14:41
Wow.
1:14:42
And is this a liberal or conservative governor?
1:14:47
I believe he's a liberal governor, but it
1:14:50
was the liberal Supreme Court, the one that
1:14:52
Musk tried to get that other guy into
1:14:54
and he couldn't do it, that allowed this
1:14:58
to happen because he had done it anyway.
1:14:59
He was like, this is taking line-item
1:15:03
veto, which has been talked about forever.
1:15:06
To an extreme.
1:15:07
To an extreme and they can't seem to
1:15:08
implement it.
1:15:09
This is not line-item veto.
1:15:11
This is word veto.
1:15:13
Yes, word veto.
1:15:16
And as a writer, I can assure you
1:15:19
that you can rewrite anything that means just
1:15:21
the opposite.
1:15:22
Easily.
1:15:23
Yeah, easily by just taking words out.
1:15:26
That's great.
1:15:28
And this is the most phenomenal story and
1:15:32
it also sets a precedent, at least at
1:15:34
one state level, that this is something to
1:15:38
keep an eye on.
1:15:41
Wow.
1:15:42
So he managed to get school funding for
1:15:47
400 years somehow by dicking around with a
1:15:51
bill.
1:15:52
That's great.
1:15:53
Well, take this word out.
1:15:54
You know, if you took this word out...
1:15:56
States' rights, baby.
1:15:57
States' rights.
1:15:58
Yeah, that's good.
1:16:00
Wisconsin should do whatever they want to do.
1:16:02
That's beyond states' rights.
1:16:04
They should do whatever they want to do.
1:16:05
If they can do that, they need to
1:16:07
change their constitution.
1:16:08
That's fantastic.
1:16:10
That's why America is so fun.
1:16:11
We're exciting.
1:16:13
We have crazy stuff that happens.
1:16:16
So talking about crazy stuff, I do have
1:16:18
some Brooks and Capehart clips, which I have
1:16:21
not done for weeks.
1:16:23
Okay.
1:16:24
Because of Gigi.
1:16:29
Okay.
1:16:30
Brooks and Capehart, the show that literally no
1:16:34
one else but you watches.
1:16:36
It's not a show.
1:16:38
What is it then?
1:16:40
What do you mean it's not?
1:16:40
It's a segment on the Friday version of
1:16:43
the PBS NewsHour.
1:16:44
You're able to get four clips out of
1:16:46
a segment of a show?
1:16:47
That's unbelievable.
1:16:50
Yes, I have the...
1:16:51
We're starting with the BBC...
1:16:57
This would be...
1:17:00
I think the one I start with is...
1:17:02
Yeah.
1:17:03
Brooks, nuts.
1:17:05
You offered a prescription, David, in your column
1:17:08
in the New York Times for this moment
1:17:10
that we are in, and you called for
1:17:12
a civic uprising.
1:17:13
You said in this column...
1:17:15
Wait, stop, stop, stop.
1:17:16
Civic uprising?
1:17:17
I don't know.
1:17:17
This is not the right one?
1:17:18
You got to...
1:17:19
No, that's part of the series of nuts.
1:17:22
The one we really want...
1:17:23
I'm sorry.
1:17:24
This is BNC Brooks...
1:17:27
Crisis.
1:17:28
Crisis?
1:17:29
Crisis.
1:17:29
Crisis.
1:17:30
Brooks Crisis.
1:17:32
It says crisis.
1:17:33
I want to talk about President Trump and
1:17:35
the courts.
1:17:36
The president has wielded his authority in, I
1:17:40
think, by any measure, in an extraordinary way.
1:17:42
Slashing budgets and jobs across the federal government,
1:17:45
targeting billions of dollars at colleges and universities,
1:17:48
threatening major law firms.
1:17:50
On immigration, we've all been following that remarkable
1:17:53
process.
1:17:55
But the courts, David, in many instances, have
1:17:58
stood up to the president.
1:18:00
Do you think that they are doing their
1:18:02
appropriate role of check and balance?
1:18:05
Yeah, I think they are.
1:18:07
The question is whether Trump pays any attention
1:18:08
to the courts.
1:18:09
And so, to me, watching the Trump administration,
1:18:11
it's just like watching an administration say, you
1:18:12
know, we've decided stoplights don't apply to us.
1:18:16
Yellow lines down the middle don't apply.
1:18:17
We're just going to roll over it, and
1:18:19
you stop us.
1:18:21
And when you think constitutional crisis, you think,
1:18:23
like, two sides faking off on the barricades.
1:18:26
But I've actually lived through a constitutional crisis.
1:18:28
When I was at the Wall Street Journal,
1:18:29
I covered the end of the Soviet Union.
1:18:31
Whoa.
1:18:32
That was a constitutional crisis?
1:18:34
Okay.
1:18:34
And it was obviously very different in many
1:18:36
ways.
1:18:36
But one thing was interesting.
1:18:37
The mental adjustment I had to make.
1:18:39
The mental adjustment?
1:18:41
Yeah, at the very end.
1:18:42
Because I grew up in a country where
1:18:44
I assume if a law is passed, then
1:18:45
things will change.
1:18:46
It will be enforced, and it will be
1:18:48
a reality on the ground.
1:18:49
But at the very end of the Soviet
1:18:50
Union, they would pass law after law, and
1:18:52
nothing happened.
1:18:53
Nobody bothered to enforce it.
1:18:55
It never had any implementation.
1:18:56
So the laws were fictional.
1:18:59
Because people had lost faith in the laws,
1:19:01
lost faith in the whole system.
1:19:02
And so what happens now is not that
1:19:04
you get this big conflict, but Trump just
1:19:06
says, we're going to arrest a guy and
1:19:10
give him no due process.
1:19:11
And there's like no conversation.
1:19:13
It just happens.
1:19:14
And nobody's there to stop it, because famously
1:19:16
the judiciary doesn't have an army.
1:19:18
Right.
1:19:19
Now, is he referring to when President Biden
1:19:22
just said, you know, we're not going to
1:19:25
adhere to the laws of immigration?
1:19:27
Is that what he's talking about?
1:19:28
Because that sounds awfully familiar.
1:19:30
Or Biden refusing to suspend the freebie money
1:19:35
for the people who took out student loans
1:19:37
and the Supreme Court told him not to?
1:19:40
Is he talking about that?
1:19:41
I guess.
1:19:42
But, you know, the Supreme Court clearly needs
1:19:44
guns.
1:19:45
Give them weapons.
1:19:47
A couple of things.
1:19:48
A couple of things.
1:19:49
Of course, when I started doing these clips,
1:19:52
I always get the same basic complaint.
1:19:55
Yeah.
1:19:55
Don't give your money to PBS.
1:19:59
That's what it always is.
1:20:00
Okay.
1:20:01
Well, that's at the top of the list.
1:20:02
Don't give your money to PBS.
1:20:04
Where is somebody that can defend Trump's policies
1:20:09
as a point of interest, as opposed to
1:20:14
two guys who hate Trump?
1:20:16
Brooks, who's supposedly a conservative, much of the
1:20:18
way like that crackpot Jennifer Rubin, who is
1:20:22
at the Washington Post, called herself a conservative
1:20:25
blogger.
1:20:25
She's a liberal nut.
1:20:27
And Brooks is not.
1:20:29
Where's Ann Coulter?
1:20:32
That's a good question.
1:20:33
Where is Ann Coulter?
1:20:34
I don't know.
1:20:35
They could put anybody in there to have
1:20:37
a counterpoint.
1:20:38
It should be point, counterpoint.
1:20:40
Not two guys that both hate Trump.
1:20:43
Brooks hates Trump and Capehart really hates Trump.
1:20:47
I guess maybe that's the difference.
1:20:48
One hates Trump more than the other.
1:20:50
But they know their audience.
1:20:52
They don't want anyone defending him.
1:20:53
They want more, more.
1:20:55
Pile it on.
1:20:55
He's no good.
1:20:56
I'm getting mad.
1:20:58
So the other thing is, he went through
1:21:01
a constitutional crisis by visiting Russia.
1:21:04
Yes, it was very hard.
1:21:05
And by the way, the Soviet Union was
1:21:07
always run with a bunch of laws that
1:21:09
were never enforced.
1:21:10
They were there for the purposes of enforcing
1:21:12
when needed.
1:21:13
That was their idea.
1:21:14
My favorite, I went there before the fall
1:21:17
of communism.
1:21:17
I was in the Soviet Union and visited.
1:21:23
And there's all these laws they have.
1:21:25
You can't do it.
1:21:26
If they wanted to arrest you, they'd find
1:21:27
a million things that you did wrong.
1:21:29
And my favorite one was the, you can't
1:21:34
take money out.
1:21:35
You can't take the ruble outside of the
1:21:38
country.
1:21:39
It has to stay inside.
1:21:40
I still have rubles in my box.
1:21:42
I know everybody took them out of the
1:21:44
country.
1:21:44
The point is, is that they could arrest
1:21:47
you.
1:21:48
But you're not supposed to take rubles outside
1:21:50
of the country.
1:21:51
Technically, just outside of the, there's some point
1:21:54
where you're just outside the airport is considered
1:21:56
not in the country.
1:21:58
And that's where they store the carts for
1:22:01
the airport, the luggage carts.
1:22:04
And to get one of the carts, you
1:22:05
have to use a ruble.
1:22:07
So to use a cart, you have to
1:22:10
break the law.
1:22:12
Well, when I was in Russia, Soviet Union,
1:22:16
before the wall came down, they told me
1:22:18
whatever you do, don't insult the Kremlin.
1:22:21
So Sebastian Bach and I, Sebastian of Skid
1:22:24
Row, we went and we were drinking vodka
1:22:26
on Red Square at 3 a.m. and
1:22:28
we were trading T-shirts for some of
1:22:30
those cool Russian furry hats.
1:22:33
We didn't get arrested.
1:22:35
We were there with Ozzy.
1:22:37
But you could have been.
1:22:38
Could have been.
1:22:40
Yeah, you're not supposed to do any buying
1:22:41
or selling or anything during that era.
1:22:44
I was told that, you know, everything's under
1:22:47
the table.
1:22:47
So I picked up a couple of Russian
1:22:49
watches that had Yuri Gagarin on them.
1:22:55
Collectibles.
1:22:58
Total collectible.
1:22:59
Do you have them still?
1:23:01
And so they were, I forget, some guy
1:23:02
comes up to me, would you like to
1:23:03
buy a watch?
1:23:05
And I was told they were going to
1:23:06
be trying to sell me these watches.
1:23:08
But they're illegal to buy.
1:23:11
Yes.
1:23:12
So I said, yeah, sure.
1:23:13
And so I gave him whatever it was
1:23:17
and I looked at the watch and I
1:23:21
looked up, the guy was disappeared.
1:23:23
I mean, he was just like, I've never
1:23:24
seen anyone vanish in thin air like this.
1:23:27
The other thing that was notable when I
1:23:30
was there was they did, this was the
1:23:32
beginning of the end where they would allow
1:23:34
these, some vendors around the Kremlin, they had
1:23:40
these little shops that would sell approved souvenirs.
1:23:48
And so you could buy like a shirt.
1:23:50
This is during Perestroika and I actually bought
1:23:53
a Perestroika t-shirt.
1:23:57
And the rule was if the shirt cost
1:24:01
five rubles and 50 kopecks or whatever it
1:24:05
was, I can't remember what the censor called,
1:24:07
you had to pay exactly that amount because
1:24:10
they can't make change.
1:24:12
No change, right.
1:24:14
They can't.
1:24:15
It was against the law to make change
1:24:17
and it was also against the law to
1:24:19
overpay.
1:24:20
So you couldn't give them six and say
1:24:22
keep the change.
1:24:24
It was nuts.
1:24:26
And so this is Brooks's example of going
1:24:30
through a constitutional crisis.
1:24:32
This guy is so full of it.
1:24:34
It's an embarrassment.
1:24:35
Let's go to clip two.
1:24:36
I'm sorry.
1:24:37
Would this be nuts?
1:24:39
Nuts one?
1:24:40
No, no.
1:24:42
The second part is Capehart's response.
1:24:45
This is the BNC Capehart follow up to
1:24:49
what Brooks said.
1:24:49
So we can get the debate going.
1:24:52
Oh, yes.
1:24:52
Here we go.
1:24:53
Jonathan, what do you think about that?
1:24:54
I mean, we had Georgetown Law Professor Steve
1:24:57
Ladeck on the show.
1:24:58
He says we're not quite there yet because
1:24:59
the Trump administration has not yet formally blown
1:25:03
through overtly ignored a direct court order yet.
1:25:08
But we also heard from the League of
1:25:09
Women Voters, the nonpartisan organization, who this week
1:25:12
I'd like to read you this quote.
1:25:14
Oh, shit.
1:25:14
Who walked away from managing the elections because
1:25:17
it was so rigged and stupid.
1:25:20
They said, quote, it has now been 87
1:25:22
days since the start of the Trump administration
1:25:25
from the flagrant disregard for congressional authority and
1:25:28
governmental checks and balances to defying Supreme Court
1:25:31
orders to bring Kilmar Abrego Garcia back home.
1:25:34
One thing is abundantly clear.
1:25:37
Our country is in a constitutional crisis.
1:25:40
Bum, bum, bum, bum.
1:25:42
Where do you come down on that?
1:25:44
I am glad you read that because I
1:25:47
was shaking.
1:25:47
I was nodding in agreement with the League
1:25:49
of Women Voters.
1:25:50
How can you say that the president hasn't
1:25:53
defied court orders?
1:25:54
You've got Judge Boasberg, who is threatening to,
1:25:58
says yesterday that there's probable cause to charge
1:26:01
the government or lawyers arguing on behalf of
1:26:04
the government with criminal contempt.
1:26:07
Why?
1:26:07
Why?
1:26:08
Why?
1:26:08
Because the president of the United States and
1:26:11
his administration ignored his order to not deport
1:26:16
those folks to El Salvador.
1:26:18
So I know there are these formal definitions
1:26:20
of what a constitutional crisis is.
1:26:22
But from where I sit in my schoolhouse
1:26:25
rock knowledge of how our government is supposed
1:26:28
to work, we are in one.
1:26:30
We have a president of the United States
1:26:32
who on a daily basis blows past the
1:26:36
guardrails, pushes as far as he can get
1:26:39
to test the system.
1:26:41
And what has heartened me this week is
1:26:43
hearing from Judge Boasberg and the judge who
1:26:47
ruled yesterday in that beautiful seven-page opinion
1:26:50
where they are not just saying this isn't
1:26:53
the right thing to do.
1:26:54
They are pushing back just as aggressively from
1:26:57
their respective federal benches.
1:26:59
And I think we will be better for
1:27:02
it.
1:27:03
I read that opinion and indeed.
1:27:07
Beautiful.
1:27:10
Yum.
1:27:11
Those seven pages were just so beautiful.
1:27:14
That guy is under investigation.
1:27:17
No one mentions this.
1:27:19
He's under investigation, that judge.
1:27:22
Yeah, Boasberg.
1:27:23
Yes.
1:27:24
No one mentions that.
1:27:26
Okay.
1:27:27
But I mean, what really constitutes a constitutional
1:27:30
crisis?
1:27:31
I mean, if the Supreme Court says you
1:27:33
can't do that and the president does it,
1:27:35
is that by definition a constitutional crisis?
1:27:38
No, none of this is.
1:27:39
These people are insane.
1:27:41
They like the term.
1:27:43
They like the term because then it can
1:27:46
easily devolve into the concept of a threat
1:27:50
to democracy, which is something they came up
1:27:53
with and they love it.
1:27:55
And so they just want to keep harping
1:27:57
on it, threat to democracy.
1:27:59
Well, if you use their standards, this show,
1:28:01
this very show has been a constitutional crisis
1:28:03
many times just between you and I.
1:28:06
And it's a threat to democracy by their
1:28:08
definition.
1:28:08
It's a big threat to democracy.
1:28:09
By their definition.
1:28:12
Because a threat to democracy is a threat
1:28:13
to the Democrat Party is what they mean.
1:28:16
So what happens?
1:28:17
This is a question.
1:28:18
This is a constitutional question.
1:28:20
So if the president ignores a court decision
1:28:26
or court order.
1:28:28
You mean like Biden did?
1:28:30
Yes.
1:28:31
What happens?
1:28:33
What does the constitution say?
1:28:35
What is supposed to happen?
1:28:37
What's supposed to happen is you impeach the
1:28:39
president.
1:28:40
Ah.
1:28:41
Okay.
1:28:45
Which they'll do as soon as they get
1:28:47
back.
1:28:47
Once the Democrats get the.
1:28:49
Yes.
1:28:50
Yeah.
1:28:51
It's unlikely president if they lose the House
1:28:55
and the Senate or either one or the
1:28:57
House in particular.
1:28:59
It's sure to be an impeachment.
1:29:01
He'll never finish four years.
1:29:02
It has to be the House.
1:29:03
The House is the one that initiates.
1:29:05
Yeah, the House.
1:29:06
Yeah, they'll impeach him for the third time.
1:29:07
Nothing will come of it because you can't
1:29:09
get that many senators.
1:29:10
You have to have 60 senators.
1:29:13
No, no, no.
1:29:13
No, it's 75.
1:29:14
I think you have to have 75%.
1:29:17
Right.
1:29:17
Then that will be the whole circus all
1:29:19
over again.
1:29:20
And then after that in 2028, the show
1:29:23
ends because I can't do it anymore.
1:29:26
I can't.
1:29:26
I can't.
1:29:27
It would be too much.
1:29:28
I can't take it.
1:29:31
So this Brooks is off the rails to
1:29:33
the point where now he sounds more like
1:29:35
a Democrat than ever.
1:29:36
And now he's actually part of the idea
1:29:41
of protesting in the streets because it's gotten
1:29:44
so bad with Trump.
1:29:46
Pitchforks.
1:29:46
Let's go, people.
1:29:47
Let's go.
1:29:48
It's so bad.
1:29:48
It's so bad.
1:29:49
I don't know if you look out your
1:29:50
window right now, you probably see people running
1:29:52
up and down the street with their hair
1:29:53
on fire.
1:29:54
I see nothing but pickup trucks with Confederate
1:29:57
flags around here, John.
1:29:58
Everybody in Fredericksburg is happy.
1:30:01
They're happy.
1:30:02
The funny thing is I'm not seeing anything
1:30:03
different here in the Berkeley area.
1:30:06
Let alone if I drove past the Tesla
1:30:08
place again with a thousand Teslas surrounding it.
1:30:11
There's not one.
1:30:12
I haven't seen one damaged Tesla or anything
1:30:16
in between.
1:30:17
So the whole thing is something of a
1:30:20
farce.
1:30:21
But let's listen to what Brooks believes should
1:30:23
happen.
1:30:25
You offered a prescription, David, in your column
1:30:27
in the New York Times for this moment
1:30:29
that we are in.
1:30:31
And you called for a civic uprising.
1:30:33
You said in this column, I want to
1:30:34
read a bit of this.
1:30:35
Saying that the attacks that we've seen on
1:30:37
institutions, quote, are not separate battles.
1:30:40
This is a simple effort to undo the
1:30:42
parts of the civilizational order that might restrain
1:30:45
Trump's acquisition of power.
1:30:49
So how would that civic uprising form?
1:30:52
Yeah, the core argument is that Trump is
1:30:54
really about amassing power.
1:30:55
And anything that might potentially restrain his power,
1:30:57
he will destroy.
1:30:58
And that includes the court systems.
1:31:00
And anything part of it that livens humanity
1:31:03
includes the universities, the scientific community, the truth,
1:31:06
the media.
1:31:07
And so far we've responded to all these
1:31:09
things, like NATO and in separate lanes.
1:31:12
We think the Fed is different than NATO,
1:31:14
which is different from the universities.
1:31:15
But my point is this is all one
1:31:16
thing.
1:31:17
And if institutions and even sectors try to
1:31:20
respond to this individually, they're doomed.
1:31:23
Even Harvard with $52 billion in its endowment.
1:31:26
You can't do it alone.
1:31:27
Though that was a signal moment.
1:31:28
That was a crucial turning point because it
1:31:30
changed the minds of everybody in every university
1:31:31
I've talked to since then.
1:31:33
Oh, really?
1:31:34
Yeah.
1:31:34
So post-Harvard they've all said.
1:31:35
A lot of them beforehand were like, well,
1:31:37
Columbia made a deal.
1:31:38
Maybe that's right for us.
1:31:39
Once Harvard came out, I talked to a
1:31:42
couple of university presidents who said, oh, this
1:31:44
is where we need to be.
1:31:45
Because the Trump administration made it impossible for
1:31:48
Harvard not to say no.
1:31:49
And that's what we're dealing with here.
1:31:51
And so the point I tried to make
1:31:53
is all these different sectors have to get
1:31:55
together and form one big civic movement.
1:31:57
And it can't be political.
1:31:59
It's not Democrats versus Republicans.
1:32:01
It's not left versus right.
1:32:02
It's institutions versus the destruction of our institutions
1:32:05
of civilization.
1:32:06
Oh, institutions of civilization.
1:32:08
Yeah, well, this is what they're saying in
1:32:09
Europe.
1:32:10
He's destroying the institutions of civilization.
1:32:14
Of civilization.
1:32:15
Oh, man.
1:32:16
The other thing they're saying in Europe is
1:32:19
America is right now in the middle of
1:32:21
a revolution.
1:32:22
And that is true.
1:32:23
That is exactly what's happening.
1:32:25
We are in the middle of a revolution
1:32:27
breaking down stupid stuff that we all somehow
1:32:32
were told to believe that this is how
1:32:34
it goes.
1:32:34
This is what it is.
1:32:36
You don't fire government workers.
1:32:38
Keep everything going.
1:32:39
Just go along to keep going along.
1:32:42
Keep along.
1:32:42
It's all good.
1:32:44
And no, no, it's stopping.
1:32:49
Yeah.
1:32:49
They don't get that part.
1:32:51
So these guys think that they're, OK, well,
1:32:53
maybe it's the Bernie and AOC crowd.
1:32:55
Maybe you can arm them.
1:32:58
Yeah.
1:32:58
Can you imagine?
1:32:59
No, I can't.
1:33:01
There was a good thread that I put
1:33:03
up on X, formerly known as Twitter, that
1:33:10
somebody had posted a big protest in England
1:33:14
pro-trans.
1:33:17
Oh.
1:33:18
And so somebody had collected, gone to the
1:33:21
thing and collected all these pictures of the
1:33:23
signage.
1:33:24
And it's frightening.
1:33:27
It's so off the, it's unbelievable.
1:33:31
People should try to track that down.
1:33:32
And by the way, I do need more
1:33:34
followers, the real Dvorak on Twitter.
1:33:36
You're never, it's never going to happen.
1:33:39
I have the same thing.
1:33:40
I'm stuck forever at 98,000.
1:33:43
This is because before Elon got in there,
1:33:45
they put, I'm sure they have limits.
1:33:48
They actually gave a limit.
1:33:49
If this guy goes beyond this number, no.
1:33:51
Yeah, that's me.
1:33:53
Yeah, I think it is you.
1:33:55
And I think of me for sure, because
1:33:56
I get to 102,000.4 and it
1:34:02
stops.
1:34:03
Or it goes down.
1:34:04
I'm down to 102.2. I should be
1:34:07
at a million.
1:34:08
Okay, I'm looking at this thread now.
1:34:09
Here's a sign.
1:34:10
I will make you listen.
1:34:13
Trans women are women.
1:34:14
Trans men are men.
1:34:15
If you don't like that, go shit somewhere
1:34:18
else.
1:34:19
Okay?
1:34:20
F the system, C-I-S-T-E
1:34:23
-M.
1:34:25
Transphobe, do-it-yourself lobotomy.
1:34:28
There's a guy poking his eye out with
1:34:29
a knife.
1:34:31
Babies for trans rights.
1:34:33
Oh, that's a nice one.
1:34:34
It's not radical to remove rights.
1:34:36
Transphobes are the dangerous minority.
1:34:40
You ruled for discrimination, violence, murder, sexual assault,
1:34:43
harassment of an innocent minority.
1:34:46
Eat the gender binary.
1:34:47
Oh, that's a good one.
1:34:50
Eat the gender binary is a good one.
1:34:53
Eat the gender binary.
1:34:54
You know, this is in England.
1:34:56
This is in the UK where these signs
1:34:58
are cropping up.
1:35:00
When did they become so, because I thought
1:35:03
they were the first ones to start backing
1:35:04
off on the whole trans thing, and now
1:35:06
it's all back with a fury?
1:35:07
Yeah, but it's not trans, John.
1:35:09
It's trans Maoism.
1:35:10
It's a political thing.
1:35:11
It has nothing to do with people who
1:35:13
are trans or whatever.
1:35:14
It's political.
1:35:15
This is a political movement of very unhappy
1:35:18
people who have been hypnotized by COVID.
1:35:27
On to clip two.
1:35:29
And if you look down through history, there
1:35:31
have been social movements, these kind of civic
1:35:33
uprisings, that have succeeded.
1:35:35
They've banded together across sectors.
1:35:37
They have a clear, simple message that appeals
1:35:39
to a lot of different people.
1:35:40
They use things like lawsuits, protests, boycotts, all
1:35:46
sorts of things, strikes, anything they can do.
1:35:50
Shouldn't Brooks get out on front?
1:35:52
Should he be the first on the barricade?
1:35:54
Come on, everybody, follow me.
1:35:56
I'm Brooks.
1:35:57
I'll tell you what to do.
1:35:58
Yeah, he should have a big red flag
1:35:59
on a pole.
1:36:01
All sorts of things, strikes, anything they can
1:36:03
do.
1:36:04
But basically, if you're a head of a
1:36:06
law firm or a university, any of these
1:36:07
institutions, you're dealing with administrations.
1:36:09
It's just about raw power.
1:36:11
Elites of the world, unite behind me.
1:36:13
So the question you have to ask yourself
1:36:15
is how do we amass power so they're
1:36:17
not dividing us, so we're dividing them?
1:36:20
And that is a mass uprising.
1:36:22
And the one turning point, if you look
1:36:23
even at the civil rights movement, when you
1:36:26
do a nonviolent protest and the people on
1:36:28
the other side attack you with violence, that
1:36:31
tends to weaken them.
1:36:32
And then suddenly you're dividing them, Selma, obviously.
1:36:35
And so this is the kind of way
1:36:37
we have to think.
1:36:39
The great military strategist.
1:36:43
Has he noticed that the violence is on
1:36:46
the left and it's always been on the
1:36:47
left and it's on the left now with
1:36:49
the protests going on and burning the Tesla
1:36:51
dealerships and all the rest of it?
1:36:53
Has he noticed this or has he just
1:36:55
ignored that, thinks it's going to be a
1:36:57
pushback?
1:36:59
That's necessary.
1:36:59
That's necessary.
1:36:59
That's necessary for the people to show their
1:37:01
power against battery cars.
1:37:04
And so this is the kind of way
1:37:06
we have to think that it's time not
1:37:08
just to think, well, maybe he'll look at
1:37:10
the other guy.
1:37:11
It's time.
1:37:12
We're all involved.
1:37:13
We're all in this together and we're going
1:37:14
to amass power together.
1:37:15
Jonathan, do you think that that movement, that
1:37:18
uprising is going to happen?
1:37:20
I mean, we saw protests recently.
1:37:22
There are major protests planned for tomorrow.
1:37:25
Do you think that there is this coalescing
1:37:27
energy that David is talking about?
1:37:28
I think it's I think it's happening.
1:37:30
It's happening.
1:37:31
I'm out front.
1:37:32
Come on, girls.
1:37:34
Let's go.
1:37:36
It's happening.
1:37:37
It's happening.
1:37:39
These people are going to go back home,
1:37:42
drink their Chardonnay, have their nuts.
1:37:45
That was a great show.
1:37:46
Yes, it was.
1:37:47
We have the nation behind us.
1:37:49
Chardonnay is the right.
1:37:51
Yes, they'll be drinking Chardonnay.
1:37:53
We have the country behind us.
1:37:56
Yes.
1:37:56
Chard.
1:37:57
I'm getting text messages from everywhere.
1:38:00
They so agree.
1:38:01
Throw off your sweaters.
1:38:04
Come on, swirl your shard.
1:38:06
Throw off the cardigan.
1:38:07
Throw off the cardigan, swirl your shard, and
1:38:10
let's go, people.
1:38:12
Do they know that they're on the losing
1:38:14
end of this?
1:38:16
No.
1:38:18
What do you think?
1:38:19
No.
1:38:20
They're in a dream world, but it's like
1:38:23
what's so annoying is this is a disservice.
1:38:26
Listen to these two clowns.
1:38:28
The only one servicing them is you by
1:38:31
playing these clips over and over again.
1:38:33
They're still on the air.
1:38:34
In fact, they go home, swirl their shard,
1:38:36
and like, I sure hope John will play
1:38:39
these clips so we stay relevant in the
1:38:41
universe.
1:38:42
That's what's happening here.
1:38:46
They do a disservice.
1:38:47
This is public broadcasting.
1:38:49
It's paid for by the government.
1:38:51
They get a billion dollars from the government
1:38:53
to do this, and this is what the
1:38:56
drivel is.
1:38:57
No, it's also from viewers like you.
1:38:59
No, it's not from viewers like me.
1:39:02
I think this is the last of the
1:39:04
clips.
1:39:05
And I think it started when people were
1:39:08
showing up outside of USAID when they were
1:39:10
going through hell.
1:39:13
I think we're seeing it in the town
1:39:16
halls in Republican districts so much so that
1:39:19
the leadership told Republican members of Congress don't
1:39:22
hold town halls anymore.
1:39:24
We've seen it with the big rallies in
1:39:27
red states convened by Senator Bernie Sanders and
1:39:32
AOC in red states.
1:39:34
I think just yesterday or two days ago
1:39:36
in Montana, hundreds if not thousands of people.
1:39:40
And then you look at what's happening.
1:39:41
And I know the courts and the judges
1:39:43
are impartial, but they are also part of
1:39:46
this pushing back on what's happening.
1:39:48
And then for Harvard to do what it
1:39:51
did, I think sent a message not just
1:39:53
to university presidents but to the country that
1:39:56
if Harvard had folded, it would have been
1:39:59
a devastating thing.
1:40:00
But it didn't happen.
1:40:02
And I would just say this one last
1:40:03
point.
1:40:03
In Trump 1- Fuck the Joes.
1:40:05
Adam Sore wrote famously the cruelty is the
1:40:09
point about the first Trump administration.
1:40:11
Cruelty.
1:40:12
And I would argue that in Trump 2,
1:40:15
it's now the cruelty is the policy.
1:40:17
And I think what we're seeing around the
1:40:19
country is people pushing back against Trump 2.
1:40:22
Jonathan Capehart, David Brooks, always good to see
1:40:24
you both.
1:40:25
Thank you.
1:40:25
Thanks.
1:40:26
Awesome segment, boys.
1:40:27
Great job.
1:40:28
Boy, that was so riveting.
1:40:31
All right.
1:40:32
Well, let's talk about the town hall.
1:40:34
Cruelty is the policy.
1:40:36
That's right.
1:40:37
And it's scary.
1:40:37
The town halls are scary, very scary.
1:40:41
Even Marjorie Taylor Greene's town halls are just
1:40:44
scary.
1:40:45
North of Atlanta, Republican Representative Marjorie Taylor Greene's
1:40:49
town hall had flashes of WrestleMania.
1:40:52
WrestleMania!
1:40:54
Hostility, jeering, scuffling with security, and a ringmaster,
1:40:59
Georgia's firebrand congresswoman.
1:41:01
This is a town hall.
1:41:03
This is not a political rally.
1:41:04
This is not a protest.
1:41:06
Three hecklers were arrested.
1:41:08
Police tasered two of them, including this man.
1:41:11
These town halls have become so raucous.
1:41:14
Greene is one of the few Republicans to
1:41:16
hold one during this congressional recess.
1:41:19
Their national party has suggested members hold virtual
1:41:22
town halls instead.
1:41:23
Already in three months, we've got more emails
1:41:27
than all of last year.
1:41:28
What does that tell you?
1:41:30
For an hour in Iowa, a room full
1:41:32
of Senator Charles Grassley's constituents ganged up on
1:41:35
the 91-year-old Republican.
1:41:37
Yeah, we showed him.
1:41:38
Come on, Dems.
1:41:39
Do your jobs.
1:41:40
Yeah.
1:41:41
Yeah.
1:41:42
Do your job, man.
1:41:44
Did you see this guy who was sitting
1:41:45
back?
1:41:45
He's like, this was far from WrestleMania.
1:41:49
Do your job, man.
1:41:51
Hey, man, do your job.
1:41:52
Do your jobs.
1:41:53
Yeah.
1:41:54
Yeah.
1:41:55
Yeah, man, do your job.
1:41:58
They're furious, and they want answers on issues
1:42:01
from Social Security to deportations.
1:42:04
Are you going to bring that guy back
1:42:05
from El Salvador?
1:42:07
Bring that guy back, you know, the one
1:42:09
from El Salvador?
1:42:11
Yeah.
1:42:12
Yeah.
1:42:13
Yeah.
1:42:13
Yeah.
1:42:15
Woo.
1:42:15
Why not?
1:42:17
Well, because that's not the power of Congress.
1:42:21
Poor dude.
1:42:22
That's not it.
1:42:24
What's going on?
1:42:25
Who are these people?
1:42:26
Did someone bust them in?
1:42:28
Why, yes.
1:42:29
Yes, they did.
1:42:30
Happened to Murkowski, too.
1:42:31
In these moments, some people clearly seem scared.
1:42:35
Alaska's Republican Senator Lisa Murkowski made this extraordinary
1:42:39
admission.
1:42:39
We are all afraid.
1:42:43
I'm oftentimes very- In a bucket.
1:42:46
Well, yes, she's a town hall in a
1:42:48
bucket.
1:42:48
Yes, I'm afraid.
1:42:49
I'm anxious myself about using my voice because
1:42:56
retaliation is real.
1:42:58
And it's not just Republicans getting an earful
1:43:01
from their constituents.
1:43:02
I don't think that you have fought hard
1:43:04
enough.
1:43:05
Democratic Representative Laura Friedman got the same message
1:43:09
from Californians.
1:43:13
Okay, please sit down.
1:43:15
We have a lot of questions I want
1:43:17
to get through.
1:43:18
Do more.
1:43:19
Fight harder.
1:43:20
And yet there's this reality check.
1:43:23
The president's approval rating stands at 47%
1:43:26
in our recent CBS News poll, higher than
1:43:29
at any point during his first term.
1:43:31
That was a great statistic.
1:43:33
I didn't expect him to do that.
1:43:36
47% approval rating, higher than his first
1:43:39
term.
1:43:39
It's getting worse.
1:43:42
I've noticed this.
1:43:44
I think they're doing that to try to
1:43:45
rile up the Democrats.
1:43:48
Oh, totally.
1:43:49
That's what you do.
1:43:51
He's getting more popular.
1:43:52
We have to do more.
1:43:53
Be crazier.
1:43:54
Do more.
1:43:56
Be crazier.
1:43:57
That's it.
1:43:58
Be crazier.
1:43:59
We're CBS News.
1:44:00
Be crazier because this is great.
1:44:03
It's easy for us.
1:44:04
All we have to do is film it.
1:44:06
It's good news.
1:44:07
It gets people to watch the show, our
1:44:09
dying shows.
1:44:11
Yeah.
1:44:12
It's a good idea.
1:44:13
I think it's smart.
1:44:14
I think they could do a little bit
1:44:15
better on the audio.
1:44:16
I'm disappointed in CBS with their audio.
1:44:20
You know, some of the audio and the
1:44:21
fact that they, you know, you can clean
1:44:23
up that Murkowski clip.
1:44:24
Somewhat, yeah.
1:44:27
But nobody's done it.
1:44:28
So every time you hear it, you can't.
1:44:30
I could have used something that had that
1:44:32
clip in there, but I thought the clip
1:44:34
was, you can't hear her.
1:44:35
It's unusable.
1:44:36
I know.
1:44:37
I can't believe I played it.
1:44:38
I apologize.
1:44:39
I'm stunned that you played it.
1:44:42
All right.
1:44:42
I'm going to play something different.
1:44:44
I got to shift gears here for a
1:44:45
second.
1:44:45
It is, of course, Easter today.
1:44:48
Please take note, Adam and John working on
1:44:50
Easter.
1:44:52
Oh, that's right.
1:44:53
You know, I forgot to milk that.
1:44:54
That's true.
1:44:55
We're working.
1:44:56
Yes, you did not milk it.
1:44:57
On Easter Sunday again.
1:44:59
I think we've worked every Easter ever.
1:45:03
Well, it's a Sunday, you typically.
1:45:05
I believe so, yes.
1:45:06
I believe so.
1:45:07
I don't think we've taken any.
1:45:09
Yeah.
1:45:10
No, no, no.
1:45:11
Who else can say that?
1:45:13
Nobody.
1:45:14
No, no, no, no.
1:45:18
So this comes from Frau Ingraham's show, The
1:45:21
Ingraham Report.
1:45:23
And so I wanted to play this just
1:45:25
as a good news, a Jesus-free clip.
1:45:28
But then I thought, wait, wait, this is
1:45:31
actually a put-down on the famous Dana
1:45:36
Brunetti.
1:45:37
Dana Brunetti, the producer of major box office
1:45:42
smashes, such as Gran Turismo, such as House
1:45:47
of Cards, such as Fifty Shades of Grey
1:45:49
and Fifty Shades of Greyer.
1:45:52
And he will not listen to me.
1:45:53
Must have been the social network.
1:45:55
The social network.
1:45:57
I mean, these were huge hits.
1:45:59
Captain Phillips, I think, is one of his
1:46:01
big hits.
1:46:02
With Tom Hanks?
1:46:03
Yeah.
1:46:04
Interesting.
1:46:05
Mm-hmm.
1:46:06
I wonder if Brunetti's ever been to the
1:46:08
island with Tom.
1:46:10
Probably not.
1:46:12
Anyway, he will not listen to me.
1:46:14
I tell him, you know, his career is
1:46:16
in a slump.
1:46:17
Hollywood hates him.
1:46:19
He's retired.
1:46:20
Hello.
1:46:21
I'm defending Dana Brunetti.
1:46:23
You're never retired from show business.
1:46:25
You're always looking for your next hit.
1:46:27
Not the CIA.
1:46:27
You're always looking for your next hit.
1:46:30
You always want to have that one more
1:46:32
time.
1:46:33
I want to get in the game one
1:46:34
more time.
1:46:35
I have told him time and time again,
1:46:37
but he will not listen to me.
1:46:39
The way to go is Jesus, Dana Brunetti.
1:46:42
This Good Friday, a note of hope.
1:46:44
It's no secret that people have been writing
1:46:46
the obituary of Christianity since Jesus was nailed
1:46:49
to the cross.
1:46:50
Have you been to the movies recently?
1:46:51
Some of the biggest box office winners in
1:46:54
recent weeks, The King of Kings and The
1:46:56
Chosen Last Supper.
1:46:57
Why are Jesus movies beating Disney releases?
1:47:00
Because there's a yearning for truth.
1:47:02
Because Disney releases suck.
1:47:04
And community rooted in that truth.
1:47:05
On Amazon, House of David, based on King
1:47:07
David's life, was one of the most watched
1:47:09
new releases for the streamer.
1:47:11
And there's huge excitement building around Mel Gibson's
1:47:14
forthcoming sequel to The Passion of the Christ,
1:47:16
20 years after that blockbuster.
1:47:19
The Passion of the Christ 2.
1:47:20
That's right.
1:47:21
It just kept on going.
1:47:22
Everything up.
1:47:22
And churches, in case you haven't been paying
1:47:25
attention, are packed this Holy Week.
1:47:28
The National Catholic Register is reporting across the
1:47:30
country, dioceses are seeing annual increases in new
1:47:34
converts of 30 to 70 percent.
1:47:38
That's up.
1:47:39
I'm reading similar reports in England and France.
1:47:41
And even in Washington, D.C., there's a
1:47:43
pronounced effort to demonstrate faith these days in
1:47:46
a way you just didn't see a few
1:47:47
years ago.
1:47:48
President Trump has made a habit of inviting
1:47:50
pastors of various denominations to pray with him
1:47:53
in the Oval Office.
1:47:54
Earlier this week, the president held an Easter
1:47:56
prayer service and dinner at the White House.
1:47:59
As we gather with family and friends, we'll
1:48:01
not forget the true source of our joy
1:48:04
and our strength.
1:48:05
America has put our trust in God.
1:48:07
It will always be in God we trust.
1:48:09
We will never change that.
1:48:11
What you are seeing is the normalization of
1:48:14
faith across the culture.
1:48:15
In pop culture, in government, it's like a
1:48:17
green light.
1:48:18
That one can, with calm and confidence, express
1:48:21
faith without fear of recriminations in the way
1:48:25
the founders intended.
1:48:27
And it's a message that those Gen Zers
1:48:29
who are going to be baptized this weekend
1:48:30
seem to be responding to.
1:48:32
Get on the train, Brunetti.
1:48:34
Get on the train.
1:48:36
Jesus is tripping.
1:48:37
How does this report jive with all the
1:48:40
anti-Christian stories that are coming?
1:48:44
You know, all the Christians, they got to
1:48:45
do this, they're under attack, everyone hates them.
1:48:49
How would they make that?
1:48:51
Where's your report?
1:48:54
Where's your report?
1:48:55
Well, I don't have a report on this.
1:48:57
Next show, I'll have a dozen clips.
1:49:00
Okay, bring it on.
1:49:02
I bet you can't find a dozen.
1:49:05
Well, I'm not going to find a dozen.
1:49:07
Oh, okay, there you go.
1:49:08
But I'll find enough.
1:49:10
No, people are becoming bold in their faith,
1:49:12
John.
1:49:12
This is good.
1:49:13
And the movies, and, you know, you said
1:49:16
it yourself, the president sets the tone for
1:49:19
the country.
1:49:21
That's what's going on.
1:49:23
When he starts watching those movies, that will
1:49:27
make a difference.
1:49:28
He's going to go to the premiere.
1:49:30
The premiere of what?
1:49:31
Of Mel Gibson's The Passion, the sequel.
1:49:34
The Passion of the Christ 2.
1:49:36
Yes, the sequel.
1:49:38
It's going to be worse.
1:49:40
That was a very, very stressful movie.
1:49:42
The first movie was all in Aramaic.
1:49:45
Yeah, but you cannot say it wasn't very
1:49:49
successful.
1:49:50
It was one of the biggest grossing movies
1:49:52
of all time, I think.
1:49:53
I think it did, like, 800...
1:49:54
Unwatchable.
1:49:55
Oh, I loved it.
1:49:57
$800 billion.
1:49:59
You can't watch anything.
1:50:01
$800 billion.
1:50:01
It was $800 billion.
1:50:03
Okay, hold on a second.
1:50:04
It was not $800 billion.
1:50:06
It was the box office for Passion of
1:50:11
the Christ.
1:50:12
I'm going to ask your favorite AI.
1:50:17
Okay, you're right.
1:50:19
$612 billion.
1:50:21
No, it was million, but it was close.
1:50:24
Yes, $612 million is not $800 billion.
1:50:29
But that's okay.
1:50:30
I like the way you think.
1:50:32
You're just like you're in a dream world.
1:50:35
No, I'm in reality, my friend.
1:50:37
I'm in reality.
1:50:40
Meanwhile, on the other end of the spectrum,
1:50:43
on the social networks, things not looking too
1:50:45
good.
1:50:45
We've got lawsuits happening everywhere.
1:50:47
What started as a chat app for gamers
1:50:49
has become a playground for child predators.
1:50:52
That's what the New Jersey Attorney General alleges
1:50:54
of Discord.
1:50:55
Discord appeals to online predators who use the
1:50:59
app to sexually exploit children.
1:51:01
New Jersey is now the first state to
1:51:03
sue Discord.
1:51:04
You know what Discord is, don't you?
1:51:08
I think I do.
1:51:09
I don't use Discord.
1:51:10
I don't know Discord.
1:51:11
Well, Discord is very popular.
1:51:15
It's more popular than Snapchat?
1:51:18
It's more popular than WhatsApp?
1:51:21
It's popular.
1:51:22
It's more popular than Signal?
1:51:24
It's more popular than Telegram?
1:51:25
What you're saying, we just keep on spouting,
1:51:29
is not comparable.
1:51:31
A Discord server is not just a chat.
1:51:34
It has files.
1:51:36
It has all kinds of – it has
1:51:37
different functions.
1:51:40
A lot of them are used by spooks.
1:51:43
It was a big gamer thing.
1:51:44
You could share – that's where you could
1:51:45
also buy stuff.
1:51:46
You could buy your in-game gear.
1:51:51
That's why they say it's a server.
1:51:54
And I think it's even open source.
1:51:56
But the company, Discord, is very successful.
1:52:01
They're making a lot of money.
1:52:03
And they're in trouble.
1:52:04
New Jersey is now the first state to
1:52:05
sue Discord, alleging it does not provide a
1:52:08
safe environment for kids.
1:52:10
The app, with over 200 million monthly users,
1:52:13
operates as a series of chat rooms known
1:52:15
as servers.
1:52:16
Attorney General Matthew Plattken says a number of
1:52:19
the people in those servers are adults communicating
1:52:22
with children.
1:52:23
Plattken blames Discord's default settings, which allow anyone
1:52:26
to friend anyone.
1:52:28
There's very little to prevent kids from connecting
1:52:32
with and receiving messages from complete strangers.
1:52:34
The attorney general's office points to several child
1:52:37
predator cases it prosecuted with links to Discord.
1:52:40
Predators that were found to have used the
1:52:42
app to engage in sexual grooming, extortion, and
1:52:47
exploitation.
1:52:48
The AG's office also says Discord misled parents
1:52:51
about a feature called safe direct messaging.
1:52:54
Discord said safe direct messaging would scan direct
1:52:58
messages and delete those with explicit content.
1:53:01
But Discord knew that wasn't true.
1:53:04
The attorney general's office also alleges Discord is
1:53:06
a breathing ground for extremists and racist content.
1:53:09
White nationalists organized a 2017 Unite the Right
1:53:12
rally on Discord.
1:53:14
The New Jersey attorney general's office sued Meta
1:53:16
in 2023 and TikTok in 2024.
1:53:19
Discord, now the latest social media site, called
1:53:22
to court.
1:53:23
We are now in a position to lead
1:53:25
nationally.
1:53:26
The New Jersey attorney general is seeking civil
1:53:28
penalties as well as an injunction against Discord
1:53:30
and an order that Discord give back any
1:53:33
profits that were generated in New Jersey.
1:53:36
So, of course, this is parents moving, you
1:53:40
know, shoving their own responsibility out of the
1:53:42
way.
1:53:42
You've got to take away these phones from
1:53:44
these kids.
1:53:45
Just no.
1:53:46
Organize with your school, no phones for these
1:53:49
kids.
1:53:49
Stop.
1:53:50
It's all dumb.
1:53:51
How do you get the kids...
1:53:53
You know, I'm still stunned by the fact
1:53:56
that kids can be on their phones in
1:53:58
a classroom.
1:54:00
Yeah, that's ending.
1:54:01
And there's a lot of...
1:54:02
Well, it's barely ending, and everyone's bitching about
1:54:05
it.
1:54:06
It's like it should have never begun.
1:54:08
When I was a kid...
1:54:09
Oh, boy.
1:54:10
Here we go.
1:54:12
Yeah.
1:54:12
This reminds me of...
1:54:13
When you were a kid, your parents kept
1:54:15
you in the drawer.
1:54:18
When I was a kid, I remember...
1:54:21
There was two things that...
1:54:22
There was interesting switch over.
1:54:24
There was like...
1:54:24
When I was a kid, it was a
1:54:26
big deal that kids got caught smoking in
1:54:29
the bathroom.
1:54:30
Ooh, yes.
1:54:31
By the time I was out of college,
1:54:32
it was like, oh, no, nobody smokes in
1:54:34
there, but they smoked pot in the bathroom.
1:54:36
Now, all of a sudden, they went from
1:54:38
smoking cigarettes to pot in the bathroom.
1:54:41
When I was a kid, it was like
1:54:44
verboten to have a handheld calculator like an
1:54:48
HP.
1:54:49
Yes.
1:54:51
You couldn't...
1:54:51
You remember this too, don't you, Boomer?
1:54:54
Yeah.
1:54:55
And then you had your watch, and you
1:54:57
had a little Casio watch with a little
1:54:59
pen, and had a calculator on it.
1:55:01
You could tap the little numbers with the
1:55:03
pen on the watch face.
1:55:04
Remember that?
1:55:05
No, I don't remember that, but I can
1:55:07
see people doing it.
1:55:10
Yeah.
1:55:11
So you've gone from, no, you can't have
1:55:13
a calculator in the classroom because it's cheating,
1:55:17
to, oh, yeah, you're going to have a
1:55:18
phone where you could get with the internet
1:55:21
in your hand.
1:55:23
You can look anything up.
1:55:25
But it's because the parents, the kids that
1:55:28
you produced, the Boomer generation, the parents are
1:55:32
like, I have to be in touch with
1:55:34
my...
1:55:34
Bless you.
1:55:35
I have to be in touch with my
1:55:36
child if my son doesn't feel well.
1:55:40
That was never us.
1:55:42
No, we went to the nurse, and the
1:55:44
nurse said, sit here, lay down.
1:55:46
He's an aspirin.
1:55:48
I know.
1:55:49
I know.
1:55:49
I know.
1:55:51
Meanwhile, more lawsuits.
1:55:53
Facebook.
1:55:54
PayPal or Venmo accounts, you might have some
1:55:57
money from Facebook inside.
1:55:59
Facebook started sending out $40.67 payments to
1:56:03
users as part of a class action lawsuit
1:56:05
over its mic button.
1:56:06
Where's my money?
1:56:07
The suit claimed that Facebook used cookies to
1:56:09
track users even when they were logged out
1:56:11
or using other websites.
1:56:13
Facebook agreed to settle the suit but did
1:56:14
not admit to any wrongdoing.
1:56:16
They got to end that, too.
1:56:17
They should have to repent.
1:56:19
We did it.
1:56:20
We're sorry.
1:56:21
Here's your $40.
1:56:22
They should be forced to admit wrongdoing.
1:56:25
And Google, also on the block for the
1:56:28
millionth time, of which, of course, just a
1:56:30
fine will be paid and nothing else will
1:56:32
happen.
1:56:32
This is really a big blow to the
1:56:34
company.
1:56:35
A big blow.
1:56:35
The U.S. judge in the state of
1:56:36
Virginia essentially saying that Google held an illegal
1:56:39
monopoly over key parts of the online advertising
1:56:42
market.
1:56:43
Now, this all stemmed from a lawsuit from
1:56:45
the U.S. Justice Department as well as
1:56:47
17 individual U.S. states that argue that
1:56:50
Google dominated three essential tools in ad tech,
1:56:53
namely publisher ad servers, ad exchanges, and tools
1:56:56
used by advertisers.
1:56:58
Picture any website that you use that has
1:57:00
advertising.
1:57:01
Look at the top banner, the banners on
1:57:02
the left and the right.
1:57:03
These all come from deals that Google strikes
1:57:05
with advertisers who then are allowed to place
1:57:08
their ads on millions and millions of websites
1:57:10
across the Internet.
1:57:12
Now, the court agreed partially, saying the company
1:57:14
locked in publishers and blocked out rivals.
1:57:17
The judge also ruled that Google removed key
1:57:20
product features and forced customers to stick with
1:57:23
its tools, which in turn hurt competitors and
1:57:25
the competition and customers.
1:57:28
Google has denied hurting the market, saying that
1:57:31
it will appeal the judgment in a statement
1:57:33
saying that it did win half the case
1:57:35
today and it will go on to win
1:57:37
the other half.
1:57:38
It's such a racket those guys have.
1:57:39
They have the buy side, they have the
1:57:41
sell side, they got the tools, they got
1:57:43
everything.
1:57:44
Everything.
1:57:46
This is total scam.
1:57:47
Yeah, they figured it out.
1:57:48
Total scam.
1:57:50
Total scam.
1:57:51
And my final, and this is, we have
1:57:54
talked about this for well over a decade.
1:57:57
We have warned about this.
1:57:58
We probably have even framed it as such.
1:58:01
The best jail, the best jail, is the
1:58:05
one that you let the inmates build themselves.
1:58:08
And we are here.
1:58:09
Some police departments are using a new tool,
1:58:11
those home doorbell cams, to create a crime
1:58:14
-fighting camera network.
1:58:16
But as Steven Romo reports, the privacy questions
1:58:19
have some critics concerned.
1:58:21
Across the country, crimes are being caught on
1:58:24
doorbell and surveillance cameras every day.
1:58:32
Now, more and more police departments are leaning
1:58:35
into this technology, getting homeowners and businesses to
1:58:39
share their video with local law enforcement.
1:58:41
The goal, to create a network of cameras
1:58:44
to fight crime.
1:58:45
We're seeing more frequent apprehensions and faster apprehensions
1:58:49
of suspects.
1:58:50
In Washington, D.C., their Camera Connect program
1:58:53
and Realtime Crime Center launched early last year.
1:58:57
In that time, they've seen a 35%
1:58:59
reduction in violent crime, a 30-year low.
1:59:03
And they say the tens of thousands of
1:59:05
new camera registrations they've had so far will
1:59:08
be an important tool to continue that trend.
1:59:11
This program allows for those that wish to
1:59:14
provide information to us to remain anonymous.
1:59:16
And it makes it more of a comfortable
1:59:19
interaction rather than having an officer knocking on
1:59:22
your door.
1:59:24
This is so bad.
1:59:26
And part of it is because people just
1:59:28
love capturing this stuff on their cameras.
1:59:30
Like, oh, I can't wait to post that
1:59:32
to TikTok.
1:59:33
Oh, look, I caught a fight.
1:59:35
I put it on X.
1:59:36
It's true.
1:59:37
Look, there's a rat.
1:59:38
Oh, that plane fell out of the sky.
1:59:40
The rat.
1:59:42
That plane fell out of the sky.
1:59:43
I had it.
1:59:43
I had it.
1:59:44
I'm on the news.
1:59:45
Similar programs are in place in jurisdictions coast
1:59:48
to coast.
1:59:49
And while the rules can vary, it generally
1:59:51
works like this.
1:59:53
When homeowners register, they can join a list
1:59:55
of available cameras that law enforcement can turn
1:59:58
to in an investigation.
2:00:00
Police can request video from them, and the
2:00:02
homeowner can then choose whether to provide that
2:00:05
video or not.
2:00:06
Yeah, you want to send that to us,
2:00:09
don't you?
2:00:09
I mean, you wouldn't want to hold back
2:00:11
any evidence, would you?
2:00:12
I mean, seriously.
2:00:13
I mean, I think it's probably a good
2:00:14
idea if you give that footage to us,
2:00:16
don't you think?
2:00:17
Businesses that sign up can take it a
2:00:19
step further.
2:00:20
They can opt in and provide their live
2:00:22
surveillance feeds, giving police departments access to their
2:00:26
cameras in real time.
2:00:28
And while police say they've seen success, privacy
2:00:31
advocates have serious concerns about handing over this
2:00:34
kind of access.
2:00:36
When you justify surveillance by saying that it's
2:00:38
only going to be used against the most
2:00:40
violent criminals, what you end up seeing is
2:00:42
those technologies become slowly over time an everyday
2:00:46
aspect of policing.
2:00:47
Many police departments emphasize these programs are voluntary
2:00:51
and designed with privacy and transparency in mind.
2:00:55
We are not passively watching camera feed and
2:00:58
watching people live their day-to-day lives.
2:01:00
New uses for the latest technology to help
2:01:03
keep us safe.
2:01:05
You can't stop it.
2:01:07
The Skynet is here.
2:01:11
Yeah.
2:01:11
We're building it ourselves.
2:01:12
And you know what?
2:01:13
If I go to someone's house and I
2:01:15
see one of those cameras, I'm going to
2:01:17
call them and walk away.
2:01:18
I'm not coming to your house.
2:01:20
Take that ring camera down.
2:01:22
Why don't you just take some shoe polish
2:01:26
and put it right over the lens?
2:01:29
Oh.
2:01:31
Yeah.
2:01:32
I'm going to rip it right off and
2:01:34
put it in my drawer next to my
2:01:35
phone.
2:01:38
None of this is good.
2:01:39
But again, I'm telling you, it's because people
2:01:40
love it.
2:01:41
Oh, yeah.
2:01:42
I got this.
2:01:43
I got this.
2:01:44
I got him.
2:01:45
I got him.
2:01:46
My clip went viral.
2:01:48
I'm awesome.
2:01:49
I'm awesome.
2:01:51
A rat.
2:01:53
Hey, if you catch the pizza rat, that
2:01:55
could be worth some money.
2:01:58
Pizza rat.
2:01:59
Yeah.
2:02:00
Hey, with that, I want to thank you
2:02:01
for your courage in the morning to the
2:02:03
man who just put the C's in the
2:02:04
crime-fighting camera network.
2:02:06
Say hello to my friend on the other
2:02:07
end, the one, the only, Mr. John C.
2:02:10
DeMora.
2:02:13
Yeah, well, in the morning to you, Mr.
2:02:15
Adam Curry.
2:02:15
In the morning, our ships and sea boots
2:02:16
hit the ground.
2:02:18
Make sure your stuff is in the water
2:02:19
and all the games and nights out there.
2:02:21
In the morning to the trolls in the
2:02:22
troll room.
2:02:23
Wake up.
2:02:23
We're stuck in here with trolls missing one
2:02:25
line and one line.
2:02:28
1912, not bad for an Easter Sunday.
2:02:31
Aren't you people out hunting eggs?
2:02:35
1912 stinks.
2:02:35
For a Sunday?
2:02:37
Well, for a holiday, you know, nobody comes
2:02:40
and listens.
2:02:40
This is why nobody does work.
2:02:42
This is why nobody works.
2:02:43
I've said it before.
2:02:44
Yeah.
2:02:44
This is why nobody works on these holidays
2:02:46
except us.
2:02:47
Yeah.
2:02:48
Because nobody's around.
2:02:49
They don't listen.
2:02:50
They're actually doing something.
2:02:53
They're living their lives.
2:02:55
No, people always want to check in with
2:02:58
us.
2:02:58
I mean, again, we do this.
2:03:00
Maybe they'll download later.
2:03:01
Maybe.
2:03:02
We do this as a public service for
2:03:03
everybody.
2:03:04
It's important.
2:03:04
If we don't point it out, who is
2:03:06
going to?
2:03:08
Everybody else is on the take.
2:03:10
One way or the other, they may not
2:03:11
even know it, but they want to be
2:03:14
popular.
2:03:14
We clearly don't want to be popular.
2:03:17
Yes, I guess that's true.
2:03:19
We gave that up a long time ago.
2:03:21
Hey, man, you guys should see the video.
2:03:23
We need to do video.
2:03:26
The trolls are in the troll room, trollroom
2:03:28
.io. This is just one of the many
2:03:30
features we've been doing for, oh gosh, over
2:03:32
15 years with the live chat and streaming.
2:03:36
We were on that so early.
2:03:38
Why did we even decide to do that?
2:03:40
You did.
2:03:40
It was all you.
2:03:41
It was me.
2:03:42
I was against it.
2:03:43
You were against live streaming?
2:03:45
I thought it was unnecessary.
2:03:47
And how do you feel about it now?
2:03:49
I was in the pure side of the
2:03:51
podcasting formula.
2:03:52
How do you feel about it now?
2:03:54
I think it's fabulous.
2:03:55
Yeah.
2:03:56
I was completely wrong.
2:03:57
You were right.
2:03:58
Oh my God.
2:03:59
I can't believe this.
2:04:00
This is like the whole week I've been
2:04:01
right.
2:04:03
You can also listen to it on the
2:04:05
modern podcast apps, which I recommend you give
2:04:07
them a go, podcastapps.com.
2:04:10
You know, the big, what's it called?
2:04:15
Pocketcasts.
2:04:16
Pocketcasts, which originally, Pocketcasts, I don't know if
2:04:19
you know the story behind it.
2:04:21
No.
2:04:21
It was an app that was built by
2:04:24
NPR and PBS, and they all put like
2:04:28
$50 million into building this app.
2:04:31
That sounds right.
2:04:31
And it wound up, you know, the whole
2:04:34
thing fell apart, and then it was sold
2:04:36
to another group, and that group, because it's
2:04:38
very hard to make money on a podcast
2:04:39
app, unless, you know, people just want to
2:04:42
support the developer, which you should do.
2:04:44
Most apps have a way to support the
2:04:46
developer through premium something or other.
2:04:48
You should do that, because that improves your
2:04:50
app over time.
2:04:51
And ultimately, Matt Mullenweg's outfit, Automatic bought it,
2:04:55
the guys behind WordPress, and they open sourced
2:04:57
it, and they have now added all these
2:05:00
podcasting 2.0 features.
2:05:02
Including the funding tag, which is cool.
2:05:05
So if you use Pocket Cast app, if
2:05:09
you want to support the show, there's a
2:05:11
button right there.
2:05:12
Just look at the app right now.
2:05:13
It says support the show.
2:05:14
You click on it.
2:05:14
Boom.
2:05:15
You go right to our donation page.
2:05:17
Is that right?
2:05:18
Yes.
2:05:18
It's another Podcasting 2.0 improvement to podcasting.
2:05:22
Yep.
2:05:23
Wow.
2:05:24
Yeah.
2:05:24
I'm impressed.
2:05:26
Well, thank you.
2:05:27
Thank you.
2:05:27
That was one of the first things.
2:05:28
You didn't do it?
2:05:29
I was a big part of it.
2:05:30
Yeah.
2:05:31
We all, this is the whole group.
2:05:33
The whole group is about 150 people.
2:05:36
The group's been together for five years.
2:05:39
Yeah.
2:05:39
It's, you won't find that.
2:05:40
That does stem from NPR, you said.
2:05:43
No, but that's, NPR did nothing.
2:05:45
They tried to sneak in an ad thing
2:05:47
called Red.
2:05:48
Red.
2:05:49
R-A-D.
2:05:50
Red.
2:05:50
I don't know.
2:05:51
A radio advertising directive or something.
2:05:53
That thing fell apart.
2:05:55
And so, you know, no, none of these
2:05:57
features were in there when it was bought.
2:05:59
No.
2:06:00
That's new.
2:06:01
That is, that is a 2.0 feature,
2:06:03
my friend.
2:06:03
You will not find that on Spotify or
2:06:05
Apple.
2:06:06
Uh-uh.
2:06:08
You can get those at podcastlapse.com.
2:06:10
You're a saint.
2:06:13
I don't know about that.
2:06:15
I don't know about that.
2:06:16
Well, you're sniffling.
2:06:17
Yes.
2:06:18
It's getting worse as the show progresses.
2:06:21
Yes.
2:06:21
I think it's, there's something about you that's,
2:06:24
that spurns it all.
2:06:24
It's the COVID.
2:06:25
Yeah.
2:06:26
You can't blame me.
2:06:26
It's the COVID.
2:06:27
I had nothing to do with it.
2:06:28
It's Dutch COVID.
2:06:29
Dutch COVID is what I got.
2:06:33
as we mentioned, we've been doing this for
2:06:34
over 17 years and, uh, the way we've
2:06:37
been able to sustain our transparency, our honesty,
2:06:41
our integrity, and quite frankly, our lack of,
2:06:43
quite trans, our lack of global success is
2:06:47
by our value for value model, which means
2:06:49
you don't get ads, you don't have to
2:06:52
pause for anything.
2:06:52
Oh man, it's gotten so bad now with
2:06:55
the ads.
2:06:55
Do you listen to any other podcasts ever?
2:06:58
I do.
2:06:59
Yeah.
2:07:00
Yeah.
2:07:00
Like what?
2:07:02
Well, I don't have any one that I
2:07:03
listen to over and over.
2:07:04
I just listen to a variety of podcasts.
2:07:06
I sent you one this morning.
2:07:09
The, the YouTube podcast.
2:07:11
That's not a podcast.
2:07:12
That's a YouTube video.
2:07:15
Well, it's a guy with a, well, okay.
2:07:18
There's a guy with a, one guy with
2:07:20
a microphone and he's wearing a beanie and
2:07:22
he's not Tim Pool.
2:07:23
That's a podcast.
2:07:25
That's liberty.
2:07:26
The new uniform for podcasters is a beanie,
2:07:29
you know, and cans.
2:07:30
You got to have the cans over the
2:07:31
beanie, the cans.
2:07:33
That's it.
2:07:33
That's what we need to do.
2:07:34
We need to have beanies.
2:07:36
We got to have beanies over the can.
2:07:37
I think that would be good.
2:07:38
That would be a good look for us.
2:07:39
Not beanies over the cans.
2:07:41
The cans are under the beanie.
2:07:42
I think.
2:07:43
Cans over the beanie.
2:07:43
No, the cans are over the beanie.
2:07:45
Yeah.
2:07:46
Well, there you go.
2:07:46
The cans are over the beanie.
2:07:47
I've already helped our artists with the art
2:07:49
and guaranteed we won't choose it.
2:07:51
Cool.
2:07:51
I have two or three of those already.
2:07:53
Guaranteed.
2:07:54
Yeah.
2:07:54
They won't get picked.
2:07:55
Don't do them.
2:07:58
Value for value is how we decided to
2:08:00
move this ball forward, and it's been okay.
2:08:02
I mean, it's certainly, it's been a ride.
2:08:05
You know, imagine, like, you look at your
2:08:07
check at the end of the month, like,
2:08:08
oh, it's much less than it was the
2:08:10
month before.
2:08:10
Why?
2:08:10
I don't know.
2:08:11
You suck.
2:08:12
Okay, thanks.
2:08:13
Got it.
2:08:13
Or, hey, we did well.
2:08:15
People liked us.
2:08:16
People, but we can't kowtow to anybody because
2:08:19
that's when it just doesn't work.
2:08:22
The audience capture thing doesn't work.
2:08:24
People who want you to say certain things,
2:08:26
they never donate.
2:08:27
Have you noticed that?
2:08:28
Oh, yeah.
2:08:29
That's why we don't do it.
2:08:30
We know this.
2:08:31
Yeah.
2:08:31
We've been around a block.
2:08:33
People are like, oh, you got to talk
2:08:34
more about this.
2:08:35
You got to talk about Epstein.
2:08:36
Yeah.
2:08:37
Yeah.
2:08:37
Yeah.
2:08:38
If you don't talk about Epstein, you know
2:08:39
how they control everything.
2:08:41
Epstein.
2:08:42
Maxwell.
2:08:43
Where's the list?
2:08:43
I want to see it.
2:08:44
Yeah, I want it, too.
2:08:46
There is no list.
2:08:47
And Diddy.
2:08:48
Do you really think there's a list of
2:08:51
clients and has behind it, oh, likes this,
2:08:54
likes this, has a penchant for that?
2:08:57
Do you really?
2:08:58
I don't think so.
2:09:00
I think so.
2:09:00
You think that list exists?
2:09:02
No.
2:09:03
They destroyed it.
2:09:05
I don't think it ever existed.
2:09:07
I mean, you don't know your clients well
2:09:10
enough.
2:09:11
You have to write that down.
2:09:12
Oh, he likes the feather.
2:09:13
Too many people.
2:09:14
There's a massive amount of people.
2:09:16
You need the details.
2:09:19
Well, we want the list.
2:09:20
I agree.
2:09:21
We want the list.
2:09:22
Yeah, we want the list.
2:09:23
And you know what?
2:09:24
Or at least come out and say that,
2:09:25
or at least come out with the BS.
2:09:28
There is no list.
2:09:29
We tried and tried and tried.
2:09:32
Pam Bondage can come out and do that
2:09:34
at any time.
2:09:35
She can say we're wrong.
2:09:36
We thought we had something here.
2:09:38
We don't.
2:09:39
I mean, just tell us the truth instead
2:09:41
of dangling it.
2:09:42
Yes.
2:09:43
And how about that frazzle drip video?
2:09:44
Tell us more.
2:09:47
Frazzle drip.
2:09:47
I don't even know about that.
2:09:48
Oh, you don't want to see it.
2:09:50
Frazzle drip.
2:09:50
You don't know the frazzle drip?
2:09:52
No.
2:09:52
Oh, it's horrible.
2:09:53
I didn't want to tell you.
2:09:55
I would have called, if you had said
2:09:57
that out of the blue, I'd figure that's
2:09:58
a disease you have currently.
2:10:01
No, it's supposedly Hillary Clinton and Huma Abedin.
2:10:06
Torturing a child and cutting off the child's
2:10:09
face and wearing it like a mask.
2:10:10
There, I said it.
2:10:11
Oh, yeah, I remember that.
2:10:13
Yeah.
2:10:15
Oh, now you remember.
2:10:17
How could you forget that one?
2:10:18
That somehow that didn't leave, that it was
2:10:20
hard for me to get out of my
2:10:21
mind.
2:10:22
Bull crap is why.
2:10:24
Frazzle drip.
2:10:24
Yes.
2:10:25
Yeah.
2:10:26
Yeah.
2:10:28
So.
2:10:29
Hey, we're going to do something really gross.
2:10:31
Somebody, anybody with a camera, anyone with a
2:10:32
phone that can take a picture of this,
2:10:34
so we can use it as evidence against
2:10:36
us.
2:10:37
And remember, it was filmed by Podesta.
2:10:42
Podesta.
2:10:42
Yes, it was Podesta filming, because you can
2:10:44
hear him laugh.
2:10:45
It's Podesta's laugh.
2:10:46
Everybody knows it.
2:10:49
Everybody knows it.
2:10:50
Wow.
2:10:51
This is turning out to be such an
2:10:52
Easter show, isn't it?
2:10:54
And that's beautiful.
2:10:54
Yeah.
2:10:54
Yeah.
2:10:55
Thanks to you.
2:10:56
What do you mean?
2:10:57
You brought it up.
2:10:58
I didn't.
2:10:59
Well, you pretend that you didn't know.
2:11:03
I didn't.
2:11:05
Value for Value is where we ask you
2:11:07
to support the show for the service that
2:11:09
we provide, free of charge.
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There's no limitations.
2:11:12
We never ask you to jump through any
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hoops, not even a registration.
2:11:16
You know, you can sign up for the
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newsletter, which is also free, which you also
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get in your mailing list.
2:11:20
And I'm surprised more people don't sign up
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for it.
2:11:22
It's good content.
2:11:25
And it's funny.
2:11:27
And it always gives a little preview of
2:11:28
stuff we're going to talk about or what's
2:11:30
going on.
2:11:31
Memes of the week.
2:11:31
Some funny memes.
2:11:32
I got a hypocrite in there.
2:11:34
every, every newsletter has got a different one.
2:11:36
And I know you do a lot of
2:11:37
work on creating those hypocrite memes.
2:11:40
You got to look through somebody else's files.
2:11:42
Yeah, it's very difficult work.
2:11:44
Well, it's not as easy as it looks.
2:11:46
It used to be easier when the guy,
2:11:48
the guy, the most of these come from
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Defiant L.
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And he used to be, he used to
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crank these out.
2:11:55
And then all of a sudden he became
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like, Oh, everyone, you know, I think Trump
2:11:58
or somebody said, Hey, this guy's got some
2:12:00
good stuff.
2:12:01
So now he's pontificating.
2:12:03
He's clipping all kinds of stuff.
2:12:05
It's just like gone beyond.
2:12:07
He's gone.
2:12:08
He's got to jump to his head.
2:12:10
Jumped the shark.
2:12:11
He's jumped the shark.
2:12:12
Yeah, he has jumped the shark.
2:12:14
So one of the ways people support us
2:12:16
with time and talent is what our artists
2:12:18
do.
2:12:18
And our artists are very talented.
2:12:19
They've been talented for many, many years.
2:12:22
And a lot of them have picked up
2:12:24
the tools of the trade, the new tool.
2:12:25
I mean, back in the day, people were
2:12:27
using Microsoft paint when we started the show.
2:12:30
And then Mac draw.
2:12:33
I remember a lot of people use Mac
2:12:34
draw.
2:12:35
Mac draw.
2:12:36
And, and then slowly they came in with
2:12:38
some Photoshop and then there was a big,
2:12:41
Oh, I remember the controversy.
2:12:42
That's clip art.
2:12:44
Someone's cheating with clip art.
2:12:45
Those days seem silly by today's terms, don't
2:12:48
they?
2:12:49
Because now it's AI.
2:12:50
People are using AI, not all, but many
2:12:53
are using them.
2:12:53
Some have figured it out.
2:12:54
I'd say over half of the artists are
2:12:56
using AI.
2:12:57
Some are so good that we think it's
2:12:58
AI and it's not.
2:13:00
But all of it is at noagendaartgenerator.com.
2:13:03
And you can, if you're listening live, you
2:13:05
can just go there and refresh and see
2:13:07
the new ideas streaming in, which is fantastic.
2:13:10
And of course, all of these images make,
2:13:13
have a pretty good shot of being used
2:13:14
for the chapters, which you can see on
2:13:16
the modern podcast apps, including pocket casts.
2:13:19
Pocket cast has like 3% of the
2:13:21
market, which is pretty big for a, for
2:13:24
an app.
2:13:25
So our art for episode 1756, which we
2:13:28
titled AG Barbie, came to us from Dr.
2:13:32
Kelly.
2:13:32
And it was a, Hey Bill, pick me
2:13:34
girl.
2:13:36
And people loved this art.
2:13:39
I knew they would.
2:13:40
I knew it.
2:13:42
And, you know, people were really ready to
2:13:44
give up Linux.
2:13:44
Like, well, if Microsoft has girls like that,
2:13:47
I'm, I'm, I'm packing up my Linux.
2:13:50
I'm going to windows.
2:13:52
I saw him say it.
2:13:54
And this was of course, based upon a
2:13:56
story that you had never told.
2:13:58
I don't think I'd ever heard it before.
2:14:00
That, that Microsoft would send off these girls
2:14:03
to Australia to go work there because, you
2:14:06
know, they had to protect them against bill.
2:14:09
And, well, no, it's after they had the
2:14:11
affair with bill, they had to protect the
2:14:13
company.
2:14:14
Oh, the company.
2:14:14
Right.
2:14:15
Yeah.
2:14:16
Do you think that E.
2:14:17
Karen was one of them?
2:14:19
I don't know.
2:14:20
Maybe.
2:14:21
Remember the, the, the girl who used to,
2:14:23
she worked at, she got turned, turned down
2:14:26
a job at the CIA and then she
2:14:27
worked for Microsoft in the nineties.
2:14:29
Would this have been in the nineties?
2:14:31
Yeah, probably would have been the nineties.
2:14:33
And then she was sent over to run
2:14:35
the, run the outfit in, in Australia.
2:14:39
Well, if it's the, yes.
2:14:41
Yes.
2:14:42
Sounds like she might've been one of them.
2:14:44
Uh, so that was Dr. Kelly.
2:14:46
Dr. Kelly won anything previously?
2:14:48
No, this was Dr. Kelly's second, uh, submission.
2:14:53
Dr. Kelly has only been an artist for
2:14:55
three weeks, has only, uh, entered twice and
2:14:59
boom.
2:15:00
It happens.
2:15:01
Nailed it.
2:15:02
Nailed it.
2:15:03
That was really, that was the point of
2:15:05
controversy.
2:15:05
Cause we both wanted to pick the one
2:15:07
next to it, which was shrimp Barbie.
2:15:09
Uh, let me see.
2:15:11
Let me see.
2:15:11
Where was it?
2:15:12
Which, what was it with shrimp Barbie?
2:15:14
Well, you go find, Hey Bill, pick me
2:15:16
from Dr. Kelly is right next to it.
2:15:20
Uh, there's some, I believe you don't remember
2:15:23
this.
2:15:24
I traveled across the world.
2:15:27
Um, well, is it on the next page?
2:15:30
No, it's right next to the, the one
2:15:32
we picked.
2:15:33
I know, but I can't even find the
2:15:34
one we picked.
2:15:35
I think that's on page two for me.
2:15:37
No, no, it's on page one.
2:15:39
Hmm.
2:15:41
I'll tell you how many rows down.
2:15:43
Okay.
2:15:43
1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6.
2:15:47
Ah, okay.
2:15:49
Shrimp Barbie is, uh, no, next to what
2:15:53
I have, the, the tech grouch on the
2:15:58
other side.
2:15:59
Oh, Oh, Oh, there it is.
2:16:01
No, that wasn't the one we wanted.
2:16:02
The one, no, that's the one we wanted.
2:16:05
We wanted pick me too.
2:16:06
The guy with the, with the belly shirt
2:16:08
and the beard, the one above it.
2:16:14
The one above it.
2:16:16
Oh, well, your, your layout.
2:16:18
How many, four, I got four across.
2:16:19
What's your layout?
2:16:20
I got three across.
2:16:21
All right, go four across.
2:16:23
I don't want, yeah, that's the one I'm
2:16:24
talking about.
2:16:24
The guy with a beard and the, yeah,
2:16:26
but that's pick me too.
2:16:27
That's not shrimp Barbie.
2:16:28
It says shrimp Barbie on mine.
2:16:30
I'm talking about the one on the left
2:16:32
from blue acorn.
2:16:33
So we were talking about, Oh no, we
2:16:35
didn't want that one.
2:16:36
That's the one I wanted.
2:16:37
I thought that was great.
2:16:38
it's not.
2:16:39
The one you wanted was the same one
2:16:40
I'm talking about.
2:16:42
No, you were laughing.
2:16:43
We thought it was both.
2:16:43
We both thought it was funnier than the,
2:16:45
than the cute girl.
2:16:46
I was, I'm telling you, I was laughing
2:16:48
at the other one.
2:16:51
Well, that's a terrible one.
2:16:54
I thought that was funny.
2:16:56
Now the one I like, yeah, yeah.
2:16:57
You liked the shrimp Barbie.
2:16:59
I got you.
2:16:59
No, I like bad cook by Darren O
2:17:03
'Neill.
2:17:04
And you just thought it was a, yeah,
2:17:06
it was slop slop.
2:17:08
It was actually quite good.
2:17:10
Yeah.
2:17:12
When there's some other pick bills down further,
2:17:14
a little more cheesecake.
2:17:16
He, you know, the troll room is like,
2:17:19
well, what is this?
2:17:20
I hate this conversation.
2:17:21
You guys aren't playing along.
2:17:23
You have to get to the website and
2:17:24
play along.
2:17:26
If you're not on the website, it's boring.
2:17:28
Yes.
2:17:28
Well, they, they think it's all, this is
2:17:30
riveting.
2:17:30
Oh, this is so good.
2:17:31
This is inside baseball.
2:17:33
Oh boy.
2:17:33
Okay.
2:17:34
And you know what they do?
2:17:36
They don't donate and they don't, they don't,
2:17:38
no, they don't donate.
2:17:39
These people that they're complaining, do not donate.
2:17:41
They do.
2:17:42
All they want is just, you know, free
2:17:45
stuff right in the vein, right?
2:17:48
Exactly.
2:17:48
Well, thank you very much to our artists.
2:17:52
They're brand new artists, which I think is
2:17:55
just fantastic.
2:17:56
It was very, it doesn't happen a lot.
2:17:58
Dr. Kelly, welcome aboard.
2:18:00
You're on the, you're not on the leaderboard,
2:18:01
but you keep at it.
2:18:03
And by the way, you know, speak of
2:18:04
the tech grouch.
2:18:05
So I, I pulled up the text group
2:18:07
tech grouch.
2:18:08
Cause you told me there was on tick
2:18:09
tock.
2:18:10
Yeah.
2:18:10
And I showed it to Christina and Kevin
2:18:12
and, and even I was playing and I'm
2:18:15
like, it didn't age.
2:18:17
You got to do new ones.
2:18:19
Yeah.
2:18:19
Obvious.
2:18:19
It's very old.
2:18:20
Yeah.
2:18:21
And you have like 27 views.
2:18:23
Well, it's because it's just posted.
2:18:26
Nah, it's, it's, it doesn't have virality, man.
2:18:29
You gotta, you gotta start over.
2:18:30
You gotta, you gotta, you gotta, you gotta
2:18:32
remake the tech grouch anyway.
2:18:36
Thank you very much to all of the
2:18:37
artists.
2:18:37
And again, to Dr. Kelly and everybody can
2:18:40
participate.
2:18:40
Go to no agenda, art generator.com.
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There are plea people who want to support
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All right.
2:22:02
Thank you.
2:22:03
Now we have MFDX of Anjou, which I
2:22:08
assume is in France.
2:22:09
We don't know for sure.
2:22:10
I don't know for sure.
2:22:11
Do we for 2069, another four 2069, which
2:22:16
is interesting.
2:22:17
He doesn't really have much of a note.
2:22:19
He just says, Elon should buy a blue
2:22:21
origin space flight for Dylan and five lucky
2:22:26
friends.
2:22:28
But he, what he does have is a
2:22:30
script.
2:22:32
Yes.
2:22:33
For a jingle request.
2:22:34
And what he wants is two Fauci wheeze
2:22:37
followed by a Fauci wheeze with a one
2:22:39
and a half second pause.
2:22:40
And then 6969 dude.
2:22:43
I think I can do it.
2:22:45
Please.
2:22:46
Please.
2:22:49
6969 dude.
2:22:51
Clearly he is recording this and wants to
2:22:54
ISO it and use it as a, as
2:22:56
a ringtone.
2:22:57
Ah, why else would you do it?
2:23:00
Of course.
2:23:01
Jessica Provencher.
2:23:03
Now it could be Provencher, but I think
2:23:05
it's Provencher.
2:23:06
She's in Toronto, Ontario.
2:23:08
Please de-douche me.
2:23:11
You've been de-douched.
2:23:13
I have no time or talent, but please
2:23:15
accept some of my treasure.
2:23:17
Happy 420 to those that partake and happy
2:23:20
Easter to all.
2:23:21
Jessica Provencher.
2:23:22
Merci beaucoup.
2:23:25
Onward with Sir Stoner Boner in Kent, Washington
2:23:31
420.
2:23:33
Simple and easy.
2:23:34
Happy Easter from Sir Stoner Boner.
2:23:38
Love you guys.
2:23:40
Oh, that's easy.
2:23:41
Thank you.
2:23:41
Stephen Massey, Hendersonville, North Carolina, 350 and 25
2:23:46
cents.
2:23:47
This donation is way overdue.
2:23:48
De-douche me please.
2:23:50
You've been de-douched.
2:23:52
And he says this executive producership is a
2:23:56
switcheroo for my wife, Mary Massey.
2:23:59
So let's make sure we do that right
2:24:01
away.
2:24:02
We'll put Mary in there so we don't
2:24:04
mess that up.
2:24:06
Her business was flooded by Helene and this
2:24:09
donation is in celebration of her launching a
2:24:11
new business, white lace and denim located at
2:24:15
the Tryon International Equestrian Center.
2:24:19
Hmm.
2:24:20
Can I get, do we have no website?
2:24:22
White lace and denim.
2:24:24
Can I get a dose of the best
2:24:25
business success yak karma available?
2:24:28
We will be scheduling a meetup at the
2:24:30
Silver Spoon Saloon in the near future.
2:24:33
Stay tuned.
2:24:34
All right.
2:24:34
Here's your yak business karma.
2:24:36
You've got karma.
2:24:42
Yeah.
2:24:42
We've got a sad, sad note coming up
2:24:44
here.
2:24:44
It's a sad note.
2:24:45
Is this one?
2:24:46
Yeah.
2:24:46
Sad note.
2:24:48
This is from the future.
2:24:50
Sir.
2:24:50
Friar Joe, a new Hartford, Iowa, three, three,
2:24:54
three dot six, nine, not that six nines
2:24:56
today.
2:24:57
I'm sending this donation with a heavy heart
2:24:59
to mark the passing of one of the
2:25:01
great nights of the no agenda round table,
2:25:04
Baron sir linemen of the net Raleigh Hawk.
2:25:07
Yeah.
2:25:07
We lost him.
2:25:09
Yeah.
2:25:10
On March 26th, he had a large benign
2:25:14
brain tumor removed and the procedure went well
2:25:17
and his recovery seemed to be off to
2:25:19
a great start.
2:25:19
Unfortunately, 12 days later, he collapsed at his
2:25:22
home on April 7th from what appeared to
2:25:25
be a seizure and a heart attack that
2:25:27
followed.
2:25:28
He never regained consciousness and passed officially on
2:25:31
April 13th at the age of 46.
2:25:33
No good.
2:25:35
Sudden death.
2:25:37
Raleigh punched me in the mouth back in
2:25:39
2019.
2:25:40
I have been a no agenda listener and
2:25:41
a producer ever since Raleigh was a elder
2:25:44
at the church.
2:25:45
I ministered at for six years and a
2:25:48
mentor and a very close friend.
2:25:50
I'm a bit lost without him.
2:25:51
And there are many people in Southern Illinois
2:25:53
mourning his loss.
2:25:55
Adam, when we noticed the beginning of your
2:25:58
faith journey, Raleigh and I would often refer
2:26:02
to Mark 1234, where Jesus says you are
2:26:05
not far from the kingdom of God.
2:26:07
So thankful to call you a brother in
2:26:11
Christ.
2:26:11
Please keep his wife, Robin and daughter Maddie
2:26:15
in your prayers, health, karma, all around the
2:26:18
future surge prior Joe.
2:26:20
Yes.
2:26:21
No, we're sorry that we lost him.
2:26:23
I've had many emails with the parents or
2:26:26
Lyman of the net Raleigh Hawk.
2:26:28
Yes.
2:26:29
And yes, Robin and Maddie are in our
2:26:32
prayers as a Sir.
2:26:33
Raleigh has graduated.
2:26:35
And that is from Sir.
2:26:37
Future Sir.
2:26:37
Friar Joe.
2:26:38
Then we have David hominy.
2:26:41
We, I remember David haunting me broken arrow,
2:26:44
Oklahoma three 33 dot 33 resurrects it.
2:26:47
Seeker Dixit.
2:26:48
Hallelujah.
2:26:49
I'm sure I butchered that happy Easter to
2:26:52
no agenda nation.
2:26:52
My smoking hot wife, Kimberly, and I listened
2:26:55
to every show and love the media deconstruction
2:26:57
you both provide.
2:26:58
We would like to call our two people,
2:27:01
Taylor and Jenna.
2:27:02
Oh, as douchebags.
2:27:05
What am I doing?
2:27:08
It's the COVID it's the COVID for jingles.
2:27:11
We'd love Scott, Simon, Rev. Al respect in
2:27:13
China.
2:27:14
Asshole, no pagan karma, but made the risen
2:27:16
Lord bless all David and Kim hominy, broken
2:27:20
arrow, Oklahoma, suffering, suck a dash.
2:27:23
I'm Scott Simon.
2:27:32
R E S P I C T.
2:27:35
Donald Trump.
2:27:35
Don't trust China.
2:27:36
China is.
2:27:37
Oh, all right.
2:27:38
Nice.
2:27:40
Chris, I'm sorry, Charles Bosch.
2:27:44
You OCH in Scottsdale, Arizona, three, three, three
2:27:47
dot three, three, no note.
2:27:49
And so he'll get a double up karma.
2:27:51
Indeed.
2:27:51
He does.
2:27:52
You've got karma.
2:27:57
David Arneson, Plymouth, Minnesota, three 33.
2:28:01
He says, I haven't donated in a while
2:28:02
and I'm feeling guilty about it.
2:28:05
One question.
2:28:06
Have you ever looked into the Karen Reed
2:28:08
case?
2:28:09
Seems like a pretty shaky case against her.
2:28:12
Here's an entertaining video on it, which I
2:28:14
immediately, when I got the spreadsheet, when I,
2:28:16
Oh, I'll watch this entertaining video.
2:28:18
Yeah.
2:28:19
56 minutes.
2:28:20
Okay.
2:28:20
I'll have to watch it later, but thank
2:28:22
you, David Arneson for your support of the
2:28:24
program.
2:28:26
Onward to associate executive producers.
2:28:29
Matthew Hodges starts us off from Burlington, Washington,
2:28:33
two 81 77.
2:28:35
Hello.
2:28:36
Long time.
2:28:38
Intermittent listener.
2:28:39
First time donor.
2:28:41
Please de-douche me.
2:28:43
You've been de-douche.
2:28:45
I started listening again with all the Ukraine
2:28:48
stuff in the news.
2:28:49
This is funny.
2:28:49
I guess when most people stop, most people
2:28:51
left, you guys are Russian puppets.
2:28:55
I was almost brainwashed by their message.
2:28:59
Thank you for shrinking my amygdala.
2:29:01
May God bless you both.
2:29:03
Thank you.
2:29:04
Amy's up next with a short row of
2:29:06
ducks, two 22 from Leawood, Kansas, and it's
2:29:10
a switcheroo.
2:29:11
She says this donation is for Richard M
2:29:15
of Leawood, Kansas in honor of his birthday
2:29:17
on four 20.
2:29:18
Please de-douche.
2:29:20
You've been de-douche.
2:29:22
Okay.
2:29:23
We've got this switcheroo.
2:29:24
Also play Obama, Adam's family.
2:29:27
No, no, no, no.
2:29:28
Keep up the good work.
2:29:29
Okay.
2:29:30
You know what?
2:29:39
Listen.
2:29:40
You're in my house drinking the booze.
2:29:46
Shame on you.
2:29:48
You know, back in the day, John, I
2:29:51
think the producers just did more work for
2:29:53
the show.
2:29:54
There was a lot of great jingles and
2:29:57
stuff.
2:29:58
Just seems like there was more then.
2:29:59
I don't know.
2:30:00
It's a cycle.
2:30:02
It's a very long cycle.
2:30:03
It's a very long cycle, and we're at
2:30:06
the depths of the bottom.
2:30:09
All right.
2:30:10
Yeah, that stuff was a lot better.
2:30:12
I mean, it was catchy.
2:30:14
We had people that had, I think maybe,
2:30:17
I don't know.
2:30:17
They had rhythm.
2:30:18
It's hard to say.
2:30:18
You know what?
2:30:19
It's before AI.
2:30:20
When people, you had to have rhythm, you
2:30:22
had to have chops to make something.
2:30:24
I think, you know, you might, I would
2:30:25
give you that one.
2:30:26
AI might be partly responsible.
2:30:29
It's hurting everything that's creative.
2:30:33
Cotton gin.
2:30:33
Or maybe it's helping.
2:30:34
Cotton gin says, maybe that speaks to the
2:30:37
quality of the show lately.
2:30:42
Maybe it does.
2:30:43
Maybe it does.
2:30:44
So why is he listening?
2:30:45
I don't know.
2:30:45
What are you doing, Cotton Gin?
2:30:46
Eli the Coffee Guy is still listening.
2:30:48
That's all that counts as far as I'm
2:30:49
concerned.
2:30:49
He's in Bensonville, Illinois at $204.20. And
2:30:53
he says, Happy Easter or 420 or both.
2:30:55
Regardless, let's all enjoy the blessings that the
2:30:59
good Lord has bestowed upon us also.
2:31:02
Happy Patriots Day.
2:31:03
April 18th and 19th.
2:31:05
Commemorate the ride of Paul Revere and the
2:31:07
Battle of Lexington and Concord.
2:31:10
And then don't forget, April 20th is Marshall
2:31:13
Law Day.
2:31:14
With all these great occasions to celebrate, we
2:31:17
suggest you enjoy a fine cup of coffee.
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Ask Adam.
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2:31:27
Stay caffeinated, says Eli the Coffee Guy.
2:31:30
And as a special donation segment extra clip,
2:31:33
here is a local news report about those
2:31:35
very reenactments.
2:31:36
It has indeed been 250 years since Paul
2:31:40
Revere rode and the Battle of Lexington and
2:31:43
Concord.
2:31:43
Lay down your arms!
2:31:46
The spicy rebels disperse!
2:31:48
With the field!
2:31:51
The Lexington Minutemen took to the battle green,
2:31:54
conducting the reenactment of the Battle of Lexington.
2:31:57
More than 300 British soldiers came here to
2:32:01
Lexington, literally from overseas, to take part in
2:32:04
this historic reenactment.
2:32:06
Eight Americans we know were killed, several others
2:32:08
wounded, and it all happened 250 years ago
2:32:11
today, Jordan.
2:32:11
Then Concord also marked the battle with a
2:32:15
dawn salute, and check this out.
2:32:17
Right now we're expecting to see some cannons
2:32:19
and potentially some muskets fire off.
2:32:23
Or maybe right now.
2:32:26
How's that for timing?
2:32:28
That is exactly the moment I wanted us
2:32:31
all to see in replay for when Mike
2:32:33
heard that cannon go off.
2:32:34
Too funny.
2:32:35
Yes, such a great tribute to the...
2:32:39
Yeah, he's now deaf, by the way, we
2:32:41
should mention that.
2:32:42
I went to Lexington Green.
2:32:44
It's a very impressive place.
2:32:48
The shot heard around the world.
2:32:49
Look it up, people.
2:32:50
We're going to get a lot of these
2:32:51
250-year things in the next year.
2:32:54
A lot of things happened between this weekend.
2:32:57
Now and then.
2:32:57
Now and then, that's right.
2:32:59
Pat Eckert is in Rochester, Minnesota, $200 associate
2:33:02
executive producer for Pat, and Pat says, Show
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resident doctors, where residents are informed of their
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Well, how about that for a deal?
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Thank you for your diligent effort, boys.
2:33:52
Thank you, Pat.
2:33:54
We're now the classifieds.
2:33:56
We're Zillow, basically.
2:33:57
We're classified.
2:33:59
We've always been the classifieds.
2:34:01
Well, talking about that sort of thing, we
2:34:03
have Linda Lou Patkin, who's last on our
2:34:05
list of associate executive producers from Lakewood, Colorado
2:34:09
at $200.
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Yes, we love Linda Lou.
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We love Eli, the coffee guy.
2:34:42
They're always there to help us out.
2:34:45
And it must be working for them.
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So we're very happy with this arrangement.
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And I love the gigawatt coffee.
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And luckily, I've never.
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I love my truck.
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Luckily, I've never, ever needed Linda Lou.
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But maybe in four more years, I know
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who to go to when I am ready
2:35:01
for my executive job search needs.
2:35:03
Thank you to these executive and associate executive
2:35:06
producers.
2:35:06
And a reminder, we'll thank the rest of
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our $50 and above donors in our second
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segment.
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♪♪ ♪♪ Shut up.
2:35:45
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2:35:49
Hey, I got some very disturbing, disturbing news.
2:35:53
Disturbing news about COVID.
2:35:56
COVID.
2:35:56
Trump administration has gone off the rails.
2:36:00
Did you see COVID.gov?
2:36:03
No, I did not see COVID.
2:36:05
Should I go look at it now?
2:36:06
You should go to COVID.gov. COVID.gov
2:36:08
is where you should be able to get
2:36:09
information about vaccinations.
2:36:11
We should be able to get information about
2:36:13
all kinds of things, except ivermectin, where you
2:36:17
can get free tests from the government.
2:36:19
But no, that has changed.
2:36:20
CBS News medical contributor, Dr. Selene Gounder, joining
2:36:24
us now to talk about these findings.
2:36:26
Let's talk about the White House Did you
2:36:29
see COVID.gov?
2:36:30
Do you see what it says now?
2:36:32
Yes, this has been floating.
2:36:33
This image has been floating around.
2:36:35
I don't understand why Trump has to be
2:36:38
in the image unless he's the leak.
2:36:41
Well, let's go to Selene Gounder from CBS
2:36:44
to understand if this is a problem.
2:36:47
If you haven't seen COVID.gov, definitely go
2:36:51
check it out.
2:36:52
Has the entire report on COVID coming from
2:36:55
a lab leak in China, not some pangolin
2:36:58
or some bat from a wet market?
2:37:00
CBS News medical contributor, Dr. Selene Gounder, joining
2:37:04
us now to talk about these findings.
2:37:06
Let's talk about the White House and the
2:37:08
2024 congressional report specifically saying COVID-19 most
2:37:12
likely came from a lab leak in China,
2:37:16
but many scientists still lean towards the natural
2:37:18
origin.
2:37:19
So unpack all of that for us.
2:37:21
So there's no smoking gun really for either
2:37:23
theory, but the strongest scientific evidence points to
2:37:27
a natural spillover, most likely at that wet
2:37:30
market in Wuhan in China.
2:37:32
So she's just going head on against it.
2:37:35
Live animals that are known to carry coronaviruses.
2:37:38
Hold on, stop.
2:37:40
I want to mention one thing with this
2:37:42
thesis of hers that's old and stale.
2:37:46
They could never find this so-called animal
2:37:50
that had this disease ever.
2:37:53
They've never found it in the wild on
2:37:55
any animal that's got the wet market right
2:37:58
there.
2:37:58
They can go through everything.
2:37:59
They could check.
2:38:00
Yep.
2:38:03
You done?
2:38:04
Yeah, I'm done.
2:38:04
In Wuhan in China where live animals that
2:38:07
are known to carry coronaviruses were being sold.
2:38:11
There was genetic material from infected animals, including
2:38:15
raccoon dogs that was found in the same
2:38:18
places where the virus was first detected at
2:38:21
that market.
2:38:21
Wow.
2:38:21
Raccoon dogs didn't even play during COVID and
2:38:24
she's bringing that out.
2:38:25
That's amazing.
2:38:26
And there's no direct evidence that the virus
2:38:29
came from a lab.
2:38:30
This is a new one, John.
2:38:31
It's a new variant.
2:38:32
Not just no evidence.
2:38:34
There's no direct evidence.
2:38:36
This is very tricky.
2:38:37
In places where the virus was first detected.
2:38:40
Wait, stop this clip.
2:38:41
This came from what?
2:38:42
The CBS?
2:38:43
Yes, Dr. Celine Gounder.
2:38:46
CBS.
2:38:46
Okay.
2:38:47
Yes, yes, CBS.
2:38:49
Yes, you know CBS.
2:38:50
This is the CIA's report.
2:38:53
At that market.
2:38:53
But why are they going back to this
2:38:57
old bromide?
2:38:58
Let's see if the clip gives us some
2:39:00
insight.
2:39:01
And there's no direct evidence that the virus
2:39:04
came from a lab.
2:39:05
U.S. intelligence reports say the Wuhan lab
2:39:08
did not have SARS-CoV-2.
2:39:10
How about this for a theory?
2:39:12
How about there never was COVID, it was
2:39:14
just the flu, and she's not lying.
2:39:16
There was no direct evidence for COVID from
2:39:19
a lab.
2:39:19
No, maybe it was just the flu.
2:39:20
Remember, the flu was gone.
2:39:22
There was no flu.
2:39:24
Flu was zero.
2:39:25
Zero cases of flu.
2:39:27
Everybody had COVID.
2:39:29
Right, and then they were killing them off
2:39:30
with the ventilators.
2:39:31
Yes, and remdesivir and all kinds of other
2:39:34
nastiness.
2:39:35
Maybe, and with just an unhealthy population.
2:39:38
So maybe she's right.
2:39:39
Maybe there was no COVID from the lab,
2:39:41
or from the pangolin, or the raccoon dog,
2:39:44
or anything.
2:39:45
I have COVID now.
2:39:47
I'm a living.
2:39:48
The virus that causes COVID, or a close
2:39:50
precursor even, before the pandemic started.
2:39:53
Okay, so the government claims the virus contains
2:39:56
a genetic feature that does- Did she
2:39:58
say government?
2:40:00
Go ahead again.
2:40:01
It sounded like she said the government.
2:40:03
SARS-CoV-2, the virus that causes COVID,
2:40:05
or a close precursor even, before the pandemic
2:40:08
started.
2:40:10
Okay, so the government claims the virus-
2:40:12
Government.
2:40:12
She said government.
2:40:14
Yeah, she said government.
2:40:15
Government.
2:40:16
Okay, so the government claims the virus contains
2:40:18
a genetic feature that does not exist in
2:40:22
nature.
2:40:22
Is that accurate?
2:40:23
So that claim is misleading, because they're talking
2:40:26
about a part of the virus, what's called
2:40:28
the furin cleavage site.
2:40:30
Cleavage?
2:40:30
Which helps the virus to infect human cells.
2:40:33
And it was unusual when scientists first saw
2:40:36
this, but that's because they didn't know to
2:40:38
look for it.
2:40:39
And since then we've- I love this.
2:40:44
I love this.
2:40:45
And since then we've learned that similar furin
2:40:48
cleavage sites are found in other coronaviruses that
2:40:50
infect animals.
2:40:53
So this is not a proof of virus
2:40:55
engineering.
2:40:56
It's really something that can occur naturally.
2:40:59
Yes, like the flu.
2:41:00
So this change of the website, this has
2:41:03
got to be concerning for you, doctor.
2:41:05
Okay, so CBS News reports the Trump administration
2:41:07
actually replaced government websites- Government.
2:41:09
Another government.
2:41:10
She's talking about government websites.
2:41:12
Government.
2:41:13
Replaced government websites with simplified messaging focused on
2:41:18
the lab- Simplified messaging.
2:41:20
Leak theory.
2:41:22
Is that concerning?
2:41:23
Well, it is concerning because- Should you
2:41:25
be concerned?
2:41:27
It's very concerning.
2:41:28
Communication should really be grounded in facts, in
2:41:30
science, questions even, but not politics.
2:41:34
And replacing nuanced scientific content with a single
2:41:38
unproven narrative is really misleading to the public.
2:41:42
And it does undermine trust in government guidance.
2:41:46
And so if you have another pandemic or
2:41:49
other crisis hit, you want the public to
2:41:51
feel like they can trust the information they're
2:41:53
being given.
2:41:53
And this really does undermine that trust.
2:41:56
That train left the station years ago, lady.
2:41:59
Nobody trusts the government no more.
2:42:01
Uh-uh, that's all over.
2:42:03
Even Australia was just blown away by this.
2:42:06
And U.S. President Donald Trump has sensationally
2:42:09
transformed a government website that once contained resources
2:42:12
for COVID-19.
2:42:13
And he's turned it into a promotional page
2:42:15
for the lab leak theory.
2:42:17
COVID.gov no longer holds info on vaccines,
2:42:20
testing, treatments, but instead traces the virus to
2:42:24
Wuhan in China and accuses key public figures
2:42:26
there of pushing a preferred narrative.
2:42:29
To tell us more about this, we're joined
2:42:30
by political scientist Simon Jackman in studio.
2:42:33
Simon, good to see you as always.
2:42:34
Thank you.
2:42:35
What are some of the big claims being
2:42:36
made on this site right now?
2:42:38
Claims.
2:42:38
Well, it revives the so-called lab leak
2:42:40
thesis, number one.
2:42:42
And in particular, it goes very hard-
2:42:44
Hold on a second.
2:42:46
I thought that we already transferred to the
2:42:48
lab leak thesis over a year ago.
2:42:51
No.
2:42:52
So you don't- How do you revive
2:42:54
something that is the standard thesis?
2:42:56
It's not- This is- What are
2:42:58
these guys trying to do here?
2:43:00
Rewrite history?
2:43:01
Gaslight.
2:43:02
Gaslight.
2:43:03
Gaslight, of course.
2:43:05
But for what end?
2:43:07
Well, because Australia was one of the most
2:43:12
locked down countries in the world.
2:43:14
They can't- The mainstream, the M5M, the
2:43:17
government, they cannot admit that they were wrong
2:43:20
in any aspect of this because then people
2:43:25
might try and kill them.
2:43:28
Or whatever.
2:43:29
Yes.
2:43:29
Okay.
2:43:30
Yeah.
2:43:30
Doesn't that make sense?
2:43:31
Yes, I think it does.
2:43:32
Against people who were in the Biden administration,
2:43:36
and indeed in some cases in Trump Mark
2:43:38
I, charged with taking care of this pandemic.
2:43:42
Yes, Trump Mark I.
2:43:43
I like Mark I.
2:43:44
I like Mark I, too.
2:43:46
Trump Mark I, Mark II, Mark I.
2:43:48
Charged with taking care of this pandemic, Dr.
2:43:51
Fauci in particular.
2:43:53
It goes very hard at him.
2:43:55
It goes very hard at people working alongside
2:43:57
him.
2:43:57
Indeed, anybody who was running, I think, public
2:44:00
health at the time- Did you see
2:44:02
what he's talking about?
2:44:03
Ha ha ha ha ha.
2:44:04
We were- Wow.
2:44:06
Because anyone who was running public health at
2:44:08
the time, the mainstream media was part of
2:44:11
public health at the time.
2:44:12
That's why he's laughing.
2:44:13
Ha ha ha.
2:44:14
Don't come and kill me, Aussies.
2:44:15
Very hard at him.
2:44:16
It goes very hard at people working alongside
2:44:18
him.
2:44:19
Indeed, anybody who was running, I think, public
2:44:22
health at the time, come in for a
2:44:24
serve there.
2:44:25
They have essentially taken a report by the
2:44:28
Republican-controlled House of Representatives and put that
2:44:31
up almost in its entirety as now, as
2:44:34
we said in the intro there.
2:44:36
That is what the US government is putting
2:44:38
forward with respect to information about COVID now,
2:44:41
never mind the fact that hundreds of people
2:44:43
a week across the United States are still
2:44:45
dying from COVID.
2:44:46
Still dying from COVID.
2:44:49
Or with COVID.
2:44:49
Or of COVID.
2:44:50
What was it?
2:44:52
People are dying- Yeah.
2:44:57
Hundreds a week are now still dying from
2:44:59
COVID.
2:45:00
Yes.
2:45:01
They are?
2:45:02
Well, people die from pneumonia.
2:45:06
Yes, hundreds die from pneumonia.
2:45:09
That's not COVID.
2:45:10
No, of course not.
2:45:11
People didn't- They died with COVID.
2:45:14
We all know.
2:45:15
We all know.
2:45:16
We were there.
2:45:17
We are not going to let the M5M
2:45:19
change our mind.
2:45:21
A note from the constitutional lawyer, Rob.
2:45:24
Adam, life imitates no agenda.
2:45:27
Y'all have discussed all the ozempic marketing,
2:45:30
the efforts to get it covered by insurance,
2:45:32
the health risks that these drugs entail, and
2:45:34
the abject lack of transparency shrouding the whole
2:45:37
operation.
2:45:38
You even talked about ozempic-induced blindness.
2:45:40
Well, now there's a lawsuit in New Jersey
2:45:43
claiming that ozempic made a woman go blind
2:45:46
by inducing a condition called non-arteritic anterior
2:45:51
ischemic optic neuropathy.
2:45:55
Ischemic.
2:45:57
Ischemic?
2:45:58
I think.
2:45:58
It's I-S-C-H, isn't it?
2:46:01
Ischemic.
2:46:02
Non-arteritic anterior ischemic optic neuropathy, or NION.
2:46:11
N-A-I-O-N.
2:46:13
According to the lawsuit, NION happens suddenly, often
2:46:17
when people wake up blind in one eye.
2:46:20
It's irreversible, and 15% of the time
2:46:22
it spreads to the other eye.
2:46:24
According to the lawsuit, Novo...
2:46:26
This isn't good.
2:46:27
According to the lawsuit, Novo Nordisk had a
2:46:30
lot of evidence linking ozempic to NION but
2:46:32
failed to warn anyone.
2:46:35
At the same time, Novo Nordisk was spending
2:46:37
hundreds of millions of dollars to have obesity
2:46:40
classified as a disease to ingrain these drugs
2:46:43
into the pop culture zeitgeist and to get
2:46:46
private insurers to cover the drug.
2:46:48
I say again, life imitates no agenda.
2:46:52
Yes, well, we have warned for this because
2:46:54
we read stuff.
2:46:56
Yeah, that takes a genius.
2:46:59
But here is the worst.
2:47:03
And Sharon Osbourne apparently has this new side
2:47:06
effect known as ozempic feet.
2:47:10
Oh, this is new.
2:47:12
Yes, it is.
2:47:13
You have my attention.
2:47:14
Ozempic feet, gnarly side effect of weight loss
2:47:18
drug exhibited by some celebs.
2:47:22
Yes.
2:47:25
So apparently, your feet go all curled up.
2:47:29
Your toes curl and you can't uncurl them.
2:47:31
And they have pictures of Sharon Osbourne apparently
2:47:37
with COVID feet.
2:47:39
So, yeah, it just looks like your toes
2:47:41
are cut off because they're all curled underneath.
2:47:44
You can't stretch them back.
2:47:46
It's a tendon issue.
2:47:48
Yeah.
2:47:49
Yes.
2:47:51
Huh.
2:47:52
Fans noticed Osbourne, 72, had wrinkly feet.
2:47:55
The fans speculated it could be a result
2:47:57
of her ozempic usage.
2:47:59
She's walking around barefoot?
2:48:00
What are they talking about?
2:48:01
Yeah, yeah.
2:48:02
Pictures of her on the couch.
2:48:04
This cannot be a good product.
2:48:07
I don't think so.
2:48:08
It just can't be a good product.
2:48:10
I don't feel like it's a good product.
2:48:12
But it doesn't matter because there's help on
2:48:17
the horizon.
2:48:18
Eli Lilly announcing potential encouraging news for millions
2:48:21
of Americans with obesity and type 2 diabetes
2:48:23
promising new data suggests the company's new daily
2:48:28
pill could revolutionize weight loss as we know
2:48:30
it.
2:48:31
The drugmaker says results from a late stage
2:48:33
trial shows their daily pill may be another
2:48:36
option similar to ozempic and other popular injectable
2:48:39
drugs but without refrigeration or injections necessary.
2:48:43
Joining us now with more on this is
2:48:45
endocrinologist and obesity expert Dr. Rekha Kumar.
2:48:48
Doctor, thanks for taking the time.
2:48:50
We know that the common GLP-1s are
2:48:53
administered with an injection.
2:48:55
How does this pill work and why is
2:48:57
it different?
2:48:59
So this pill is different because it can
2:49:01
just be swallowed.
2:49:02
It doesn't matter, you know, with food, without
2:49:05
food, with water, without water.
2:49:08
The current GLP-1 that's oral that's on
2:49:10
the market, ribelsis, has a lot of stipulations
2:49:13
around food and only four sips of water.
2:49:16
So this is different because it's a daily
2:49:18
pill versus a weekly injection.
2:49:20
Time of day doesn't matter.
2:49:22
And we're seeing results that appear to be
2:49:24
basically as good as the injectables that we
2:49:27
have on the market.
2:49:28
I mean, we're finally here.
2:49:30
It's about time.
2:49:32
I mean, eat all the junk you want.
2:49:34
Doesn't matter if it comes in a bag,
2:49:36
has a barcode.
2:49:36
You can have the pill with the junk.
2:49:39
You don't need four sips of water.
2:49:42
You can swallow it with your milkshake.
2:49:44
This, my friends, is what America is all
2:49:48
about.
2:49:49
This is what we do.
2:49:50
What exactly did this trial study show and
2:49:54
are there any side effects patients should be
2:49:56
concerned about when it comes to this new
2:49:57
pill?
2:49:58
Well, yes.
2:49:58
You've got the COVID gnarly feet.
2:50:00
You've got the blindness.
2:50:01
You've got the anal leakage.
2:50:02
But don't worry.
2:50:03
So what this trial showed was that this
2:50:06
medicine was great at lowering blood sugar as
2:50:09
well as...
2:50:10
They've actually said it's great.
2:50:12
What study says, hey, this is great.
2:50:15
Reducing body weight.
2:50:17
It was a 16-pound weight loss at
2:50:19
40 weeks, which is tracking to look like
2:50:22
the weight loss we see in Ozempic, Wegovi,
2:50:26
a little bit under Munjaro.
2:50:28
And the fact that this doesn't require refrigeration...
2:50:31
Wait, wait.
2:50:32
Munjaro did better.
2:50:34
Munjaro outperformed everybody.
2:50:36
It sounds like it.
2:50:37
If you're going to go for the shot...
2:50:39
This is news to me.
2:50:40
Yeah, I didn't know it either.
2:50:41
I think if you're going to go for
2:50:43
the shot, Munjaro is the way to go.
2:50:44
And the fact that this doesn't require refrigeration,
2:50:47
it's not an injection, and can be taken
2:50:50
by mouth is great for people that might
2:50:52
have an aversion to pills or an aversion
2:50:55
to injections.
2:50:56
So it offers another option.
2:50:58
It's just another option.
2:51:01
I am not a medical doctor.
2:51:02
We are not giving you any advice.
2:51:04
But stay away from this stuff, people.
2:51:09
This can't be good.
2:51:14
Yeah.
2:51:15
So while we're on the topic of ingesting
2:51:19
poison...
2:51:22
Fluoride?
2:51:22
I have a fluoride series of clips from
2:51:25
PBS that I thought were quite fascinating because
2:51:27
they brought somebody on to re-promote fluoridation
2:51:30
because all of a sudden, we're having these
2:51:34
issues.
2:51:34
Some states are dropping it.
2:51:36
Was it a representative from Alcoa, the aluminum
2:51:39
producer?
2:51:40
No, I don't think so.
2:51:42
But I didn't do a deep dive into
2:51:45
her background.
2:51:46
But she's obviously a stooge, and she wouldn't
2:51:48
answer one question.
2:51:50
By the way, this has been going on
2:51:52
on networks everywhere.
2:51:53
I wanted to clip some of this stuff,
2:51:55
so I'm glad you had it.
2:51:57
There are pro-fluoride people out on all
2:52:00
the networks right now.
2:52:01
Yeah.
2:52:02
Everywhere.
2:52:03
All right.
2:52:04
Well, let's stop right there because the reason
2:52:06
is fluoride is an industrial waste.
2:52:10
Poison.
2:52:11
And they don't know what to do with
2:52:12
it.
2:52:12
I mean, they're going to have to take
2:52:13
it and drop it off in the middle
2:52:14
of the ocean or something right now because
2:52:16
it's no good.
2:52:19
But so I want to reintroduce it into
2:52:22
the drinking water.
2:52:23
That'll get rid of it.
2:52:25
And so let's bring in some experts here.
2:52:27
Now, actually, I have to give the credit
2:52:28
to the guy on PBS here because he
2:52:33
does repeat a question twice that she never
2:52:38
answers.
2:52:40
He doesn't keep beating her up with it,
2:52:41
which I would have done, but you'll hear.
2:52:45
Earlier this month, Health and Human Services Secretary
2:52:47
Robert F.
2:52:48
Kennedy Jr. announced plans to end the federal
2:52:51
recommendation that municipalities add fluoride to their drinking
2:52:55
water.
2:52:56
The Environmental Protection Agency also said it was
2:52:59
reviewing quote, new scientific information about the risks
2:53:03
of fluoridation.
2:53:05
Given this renewed debate, we wanted to hear
2:53:07
one perspective from a community that did remove
2:53:10
fluoride from its water, the Canadian city of
2:53:13
Calgary.
2:53:14
Earlier this week, I spoke to Lindsay McLaren.
2:53:16
She's a professor of community health sciences at
2:53:19
the University of Calgary, and I began by
2:53:22
asking her why we started fluoridating water in
2:53:24
the first place.
2:53:25
In regions of the United States and elsewhere,
2:53:30
it was observed by local dentists, this was
2:53:33
back in the 1940s, that people living in
2:53:36
certain communities had kind of a staining of
2:53:39
their teeth, but their teeth also turned out
2:53:44
to be quite resistant to tooth decay.
2:53:46
And so it was figured out that this
2:53:49
was because of naturally high levels of fluoride
2:53:53
in the drinking water.
2:53:55
And so that gave rise to the idea
2:53:57
that we could actually do this intentionally and
2:54:00
in a controlled manner as a public health
2:54:03
intervention to improve the oral health of the
2:54:05
population.
2:54:06
We mentioned that some people have cited risks
2:54:09
associated with this practice.
2:54:11
And the current HHS Secretary in the United
2:54:14
States, R.F.K. Jr., he had a
2:54:17
recent visit to the state of Utah.
2:54:19
Utah itself became the first state to ban
2:54:22
fluoride in its water.
2:54:23
Here's what he said there.
2:54:24
In the era of fluoridated toothpastes and mouthwashes,
2:54:30
it makes no sense to have fluoride in
2:54:31
our water.
2:54:33
The evidence against fluoride is overwhelming.
2:54:37
In animals, in animal models, and in human
2:54:40
models, we know that it causes IQ loss.
2:54:44
Huh?
2:54:47
What?
2:54:48
Causes what?
2:54:50
IQ loss.
2:54:51
Oh, I'm sorry.
2:54:52
Huh?
2:54:53
I'm pretending to have been drinking the water.
2:54:56
So...
2:54:56
Oh.
2:54:58
Yes.
2:54:58
So, okay, so that's the key that he
2:55:01
wants, you know, let's get rid of fluoride
2:55:03
because it's not good for our intelligence.
2:55:05
We're all dumbing down.
2:55:06
So let's continue these clips and see what
2:55:09
she has to say about this.
2:55:10
So what about those arguments?
2:55:12
One, that in the era of heavily fluoridated
2:55:15
toothpastes, we don't need to add it to
2:55:17
our water.
2:55:18
And two, are there studies indicating that it
2:55:21
causes IQ loss?
2:55:22
So the point about being in the era
2:55:24
of widespread fluoride toothpaste is a good one,
2:55:27
but research and systematic reviews of research that
2:55:30
have been conducted in this era consistently show
2:55:33
that there is an added benefit of fluoridated
2:55:37
water above and beyond the widespread use of
2:55:41
toothpaste.
2:55:42
And then what about the studies that he
2:55:44
cited about IQ loss?
2:55:47
Yeah, what about them?
2:55:49
So, yeah, he has to re-ask the
2:55:51
question because she didn't answer it.
2:55:53
Right, about IQ loss.
2:55:55
Do you think she's going to answer it
2:55:55
this time?
2:55:56
After he asks again?
2:55:58
I'm guessing not.
2:56:00
Maybe she will deflect, deny, and defend?
2:56:03
I think you're right.
2:56:05
And then what about the studies that he
2:56:07
cited about IQ loss?
2:56:09
The main thing to say there is that
2:56:11
it's really not at all clear that fluoridation
2:56:15
is associated with those outcomes at the levels
2:56:18
that we're talking about for community water fluoridation.
2:56:21
There's many examples of things that are harmful
2:56:23
or toxic at high levels, but that are
2:56:26
innocuous or even beneficial at lower levels.
2:56:29
Hey man, what are you complaining about?
2:56:31
Lots of stuff that we put in the
2:56:32
water is toxic, okay?
2:56:33
But it can also be good for you.
2:56:34
So, turning to your experience, in 2011, the
2:56:37
Calgary City Council voted to remove fluoride from
2:56:41
its water.
2:56:42
You launched a study then as to what
2:56:44
the downstream impacts of that was.
2:56:46
What is it that you found?
2:56:48
So, we designed a large-scale study where
2:56:51
we collected data on oral health and a
2:56:55
number of other things from several thousand kids
2:57:00
in both Calgary where fluoridation was stopped and
2:57:03
in Edmonton, which is the other large city
2:57:07
in Alberta, which has several similarities to Calgary
2:57:11
with the main difference being that they had
2:57:13
fluoridation in place and it was continuing.
2:57:16
About seven to eight years after the decision
2:57:19
to stop fluoridation in Calgary, we observed quite
2:57:23
a big difference in the prevalence of tooth
2:57:26
decay among kids in the two cities.
2:57:29
A big difference.
2:57:30
A big difference.
2:57:33
What was the big difference?
2:57:35
It's a big difference.
2:57:37
What would you guess?
2:57:38
They had two cities.
2:57:41
One had fluoridated water.
2:57:42
One had no fluoridated water.
2:57:44
They noticed a big difference.
2:57:47
Much better teeth health in the fluoridated city.
2:57:52
I'm going to say like 90% better.
2:57:58
That's a guess.
2:57:59
I think that's kind of the implication.
2:58:02
I'd be like 90% to 100%
2:58:04
better.
2:58:05
Do we reveal all in this last clip?
2:58:08
Yes, we do.
2:58:09
Except for the brain damage part.
2:58:11
We can't talk about that.
2:58:13
The percent of kids who had tooth decay
2:58:15
in Calgary where there was no fluoride was
2:58:19
65% whereas in Edmonton where fluoridation remains
2:58:24
in place, it was about 55%.
2:58:28
A 10% difference.
2:58:30
That's big.
2:58:32
That's a big difference.
2:58:33
It's a huge difference.
2:58:35
55 versus 65.
2:58:38
Versus 65.
2:58:40
That's a huge monstrous difference that we should
2:58:43
all risk our mental health for.
2:58:47
A decade later voters there voted to put
2:58:51
fluoride back in.
2:58:52
He doesn't at any point say that's not
2:58:53
such a big difference, is it Doctor, or
2:58:55
whatever her name is, whatever her title is.
2:58:58
Farmer lady.
2:58:59
Professor.
2:59:01
A decade later, voters there voted to put
2:59:04
fluoride back into the water.
2:59:06
That has not happened yet.
2:59:08
Does your experience there help inform how Americans
2:59:12
ought to be thinking about this decision?
2:59:14
Certainly in the Calgary case, we were fortunate
2:59:18
to be able to build this study and
2:59:22
to demonstrate that there are consequences to removing
2:59:26
fluoride from drinking water.
2:59:27
It's not just an innocuous policy decision.
2:59:31
And so that information I think figured importantly
2:59:34
in the decision to reintroduce the measure, which
2:59:38
should be happening soon.
2:59:40
What I think I would also want to
2:59:42
add here is that if you decide as
2:59:44
a community, if you have a grown-up
2:59:47
conversation and decide as a community to not
2:59:50
fluoridate the water, that is one thing, but
2:59:53
you have to accompany that by a discussion
2:59:56
about what are you going to do instead?
2:59:58
Because tooth decay is not an innocuous health
3:00:02
problem.
3:00:02
It's a serious health problem.
3:00:04
It's very common, and perhaps most importantly, it's
3:00:07
almost entirely preventable.
3:00:09
And so what kind of a society are
3:00:12
we if we don't prevent an entirely preventable
3:00:16
problem that causes harm and pain?
3:00:18
And so then he went right back and
3:00:21
he said, but how about the IQ issue?
3:00:23
And she answered the question in the final
3:00:25
clip?
3:00:26
No, of course not.
3:00:28
He didn't beat it up anymore, but let's
3:00:31
go back to what she just said.
3:00:33
It's 55% in the fluoridated area versus
3:00:38
65% in the non-fluoridated area.
3:00:41
That is not preventing anything.
3:00:45
She says completely preventable.
3:00:46
She says tooth decay is completely, she said
3:00:49
this, completely preventable.
3:00:53
How is 55% complete?
3:00:57
It's not even half it's more than half
3:01:00
people getting it with the fluoride.
3:01:02
How does that make fluoride make it preventable?
3:01:06
This is unbelievable to me.
3:01:08
Here's the thing that Robert F.
3:01:11
Kennedy Jr. needs to explain.
3:01:14
The history of and they just call it
3:01:17
fluoride, but it's really hydrofluorosilic acid I believe,
3:01:23
which is released during strip mining, phosphate mining.
3:01:30
And they used to just release this fluoride
3:01:34
into the air, but it was in the
3:01:36
1970s I think the Department of Agriculture said
3:01:40
airborne airborne fluoride is causing damage to domestic
3:01:45
animals, it's crops, it's an airborne pollutant.
3:01:49
So they came up with environmental regulations.
3:01:51
This is all you can look this up.
3:01:54
Chat GPT it.
3:01:55
These companies had to limit their airborne pollutants.
3:01:59
So they were being caught in air filtration
3:02:03
systems which they then condensed into a water
3:02:06
-based solution.
3:02:07
They packaged that up and sold it to
3:02:09
municipal governments.
3:02:12
That's what happened.
3:02:14
They needed to get rid of this stuff
3:02:17
for the phosphate mining and they just came
3:02:19
up with this great story.
3:02:21
And even my periodontist, I told you this
3:02:24
story.
3:02:25
He was like, where do you stand on
3:02:28
fluoride?
3:02:30
Don't put it in your water.
3:02:31
That's not true, it saves so many children.
3:02:34
And then once he started looking into it,
3:02:36
which he never did, because it was just
3:02:37
rammed into his head in dentist school.
3:02:40
He said, holy crap, you're right, this is
3:02:42
no good.
3:02:43
You can get fluoride just as Bobby the
3:02:45
Op says, you can get it from toothpaste,
3:02:47
you can get it with mouthwash.
3:02:52
Your dentist can put it on your teeth
3:02:54
directly, which is probably the best way.
3:02:55
Yes, you can get it in the nice
3:02:57
tray with a nice tropical fruit taste.
3:03:01
Do you remember that?
3:03:03
When they put the fluoride...
3:03:05
Oh God, I used to hate that.
3:03:07
I don't think they do that anymore.
3:03:09
You get these two trays.
3:03:11
Okay, boomer.
3:03:12
And you'd be sitting there and then this
3:03:13
tropical fruit taste would be dripping in the
3:03:16
back of your throat, make you all nauseous.
3:03:19
And of course for me, the kicker was
3:03:22
when I read Legacy of Ashes, the CIA
3:03:26
story written by Weiner, Daniel Weiner, I want
3:03:31
to say.
3:03:32
And Uncle Don was in that book everywhere.
3:03:34
And I called Uncle Don and I said,
3:03:36
is this true?
3:03:36
He says, yeah, it's the way I remember
3:03:38
it.
3:03:38
And what was in the book?
3:03:38
It says the CIA would put fluoride into
3:03:41
enemy water camps so they'd become nice and
3:03:43
docile so they could take over the camp
3:03:45
at night.
3:03:47
But then this was PBS?
3:03:50
I guarantee you Alcoa has some kind of
3:03:53
sponsorship of PBS.
3:03:55
Because Alcoa did a lot of this.
3:04:00
Ugh.
3:04:01
People should just listen to the No Agenda
3:04:03
show and live longer.
3:04:06
Let's hope so.
3:04:10
Oh, man.
3:04:12
I think that was the last clip, wasn't
3:04:14
it?
3:04:14
Yeah, that was the last clip.
3:04:15
Okay, we are beyond our...
3:04:19
Uh-oh, time's up.
3:04:20
Time is up.
3:04:21
So I will...
3:04:23
I have two clips.
3:04:24
They're reasonably short.
3:04:26
Manga.
3:04:27
Manga, everybody.
3:04:28
Make Africa News great again.
3:04:30
I have a 45-second Africa News clip.
3:04:59
The report says missions in Lesotho, Eritrea, the
3:05:02
Central African Republic, the Republic of Congo, Gambia,
3:05:06
and South Sudan top the list of those
3:05:08
facing closure.
3:05:09
The news comes on the back of sudden
3:05:11
aid cuts to health and other social programs,
3:05:14
trade tariffs, and visa bans imposed on over
3:05:17
a dozen countries.
3:05:18
So we are giving up on Africa, as
3:05:21
you predicted.
3:05:24
It's all about North Pole, South America.
3:05:28
Africa no longer matters.
3:05:30
We're pulling out our embassies, which means no
3:05:32
more spies.
3:05:33
We're just done?
3:05:34
Do we just leave it to the Chinese?
3:05:37
Yeah.
3:05:38
Is that a good idea?
3:05:40
We're going to take...
3:05:41
We're going to do South America.
3:05:43
Which is better?
3:05:44
The Chinese have already taken over Africa, and
3:05:48
they're going to try to take over South
3:05:49
America.
3:05:50
We have to stop them.
3:05:51
That's where we stop them.
3:05:51
We can't deal with Africa.
3:05:53
Okay.
3:05:55
And then finally, Canadian news.
3:05:58
As Canadians prepare to go to the polls
3:06:00
on the 28th of April, current Prime Minister
3:06:02
and Liberal candidate Mark Carney presented himself as
3:06:05
the strong man to lead Canada against a
3:06:07
hostile neighbor to the South.
3:06:09
Donald Trump is trying to fundamentally change the
3:06:12
world economy, the trading system, but really what
3:06:15
he's trying to do to Canada, he's trying
3:06:16
to break us so the U.S. can
3:06:18
own us.
3:06:21
This is going to be a great election.
3:06:23
They want our land, they want our resources,
3:06:25
they want our water.
3:06:26
We want your women!
3:06:27
They want our country.
3:06:28
We're all going to stand up against Donald
3:06:30
Trump.
3:06:30
Oh yeah.
3:06:32
You sure?
3:06:33
I'm ready.
3:06:34
I'm ready.
3:06:35
Canada's top trading partner by some distance, buying
3:06:38
75% of Canada's exports in 2024.
3:06:42
So Donald Trump's 25% blanket tariffs on
3:06:45
Canadian goods and new 10% energy levy
3:06:48
have left the country economically vulnerable.
3:06:51
A vulnerability conservative challenger Pierre Paulier blames on
3:06:54
the incumbent.
3:06:55
You claim that you want our country to
3:06:57
respond with strength, but after the last decade,
3:07:00
half of which time you've been Justin Trudeau's
3:07:03
economic advisor, our economy is weaker than ever
3:07:06
before.
3:07:06
It's been the worst growth in the G7.
3:07:08
Since the Liberals scraped a victory in the
3:07:10
2021 general election, the conservative opposition have mostly
3:07:13
dominated in the polls, but Donald Trump's trade
3:07:16
war has turned the tables, putting the incumbent
3:07:19
Liberals out in front for the first time
3:07:21
since 2022.
3:07:24
Poor Canada.
3:07:27
I feel bad.
3:07:29
Why would you feel bad?
3:07:31
Because they know that it's partially true.
3:07:36
I mean, it's not like we want to
3:07:37
really own Canada, but parts of it parts
3:07:41
of it will be handy to have, and
3:07:42
parts of it I think want to be
3:07:44
part of America.
3:07:45
It's not like one giant country that all
3:07:48
thinks the same.
3:07:49
Because I make jokes to Canadians all the
3:07:52
time.
3:07:52
It's like, you'll be a 51st state.
3:07:54
Half of them go, that would be awesome.
3:07:56
The other half go, Trump.
3:08:00
Trump.
3:08:01
Trump.
3:08:04
Yeah.
3:08:05
I don't know.
3:08:07
I don't know.
3:08:09
We're a real problem, economically speaking, with what's
3:08:13
happening now.
3:08:14
What are their choices?
3:08:15
What can they do?
3:08:17
Is it fait accompli?
3:08:19
They should get their act together.
3:08:35
Well, while Canada's getting their act together, I
3:08:39
knew you were fishing for something.
3:08:42
I was thinking, what can I do here?
3:08:43
Why?
3:08:44
Why do you have to blow the whole
3:08:45
thing?
3:08:46
No one needs to know our secret signals.
3:08:48
It's called professionalism.
3:08:52
It's usually something insulting or some one-liner.
3:08:55
I'm thinking to myself, God, what can I
3:08:56
say here?
3:08:57
He's not leading me down the right path.
3:08:59
You're hearing over 17 years of professional colleagues
3:09:04
working together, knowing exactly how we live, breathe,
3:09:08
and do our show.
3:09:09
It's a beautiful thing.
3:09:11
But then you had to go and lift
3:09:12
the veil.
3:09:13
Show everybody how to lift the veil.
3:09:14
Well, you do it all the time.
3:09:16
I do.
3:09:16
Hey, John's going to thank our supporters, $50
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and above, who supported us for episode 1757.
3:09:25
Nathan Cochran starts us off.
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He's in Franklin, Tennessee, and he came in
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with the 1-2-3-4-5.
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He's one of your boys.
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He's from Mercy Me.
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Oh, yes.
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He's another Mercy Me boy.
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Yeah, we should have a Mercy Me donation.
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We should have a Mercy Me donation.
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Nathan and just come up with something.
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1-2-3-4-5 is good.
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Dame Jan and Boise, $111.10. $111.10.
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Hey, Patrick in Saginaw, I'll see your double
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nipples on the dime, $88.10, and raise
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you triple dicks on the dime, $111.10.
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Oh, boy.
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Boy, these guys, I'm telling you.
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Texas Hot Grass, LLC.
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Hot Glass.
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I think it's Hot Glass.
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I like grass better.
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No, she did the glass flute.
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Oh, she's the one that did all the
3:10:17
glassware for us.
3:10:17
The glass flute, yeah.
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The swords.
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Yeah, the swords.
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Yeah, they're awesome.
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Which we're still worried about breaking.
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Yeah.
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$105.35. Juliana Lee, $105.35. John Kratchik
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in Northport, New York, $102.00. Jason Maurer
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in Vancouver, Washington, $100.00, a low-tax
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place to be.
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Brian Mickey in Prague, Oklahoma, $84.00. And
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there's Kevin McLaughlin in Concord, North Carolina, a
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donation from the Archduke of Loon, a lover
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of America, lover of boobs, and he has
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a boob donation of $8.008. Along with
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Herb Lamb, here he's back, from Sugar Hill,
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Georgia, $8.008. Sir Darth Penguin in Lockport,
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Illinois, $65.80. Oh, this is a switcheroo
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donation for the Chi-Town Spook.
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He wants to remain anonymous for spook reasons.
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That's busted!
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He's busted!
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Okay, well, he's Chi-Town Spook.
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Sir Darth Penguin of Locktucky.
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Sir Kevin O'Brien in Chicago, up the
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road, $6.006. Christine Tharp in Cedar Rapids,
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Iowa, $59.04. This is in honor of
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her husband, Ron.
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Birthday coming up.
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He was not de-douched.
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Please de-douche us both.
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You've been de-douched.
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That is one, and here's the second one.
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You've been de-douched.
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You've been de-douched.
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D.
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Vitti in Parts Unknown, $58.09. Dean Roker,
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$55.10. Andy Martin in Burlington, Vermont, $54
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.20. $54.20. It's $4.20. It's $50
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plus $4.20. That's not bad.
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Sir Cascadia in Portland, $54.20. Chris Rees
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in Wichita, Kansas, $53.33. Richard Brooksby, and
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he's got a birthday, by the way.
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Richard Brooksby in Mesa, Arizona, $52.72. He
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says, down with pointy food.
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I don't know what that's about, but I'm
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with you.
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I don't know.
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It must have poked him in the eye.
3:12:49
Chris, by the way, wishes his birthday, Maggie.
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Margie.
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Margie.
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Margie.
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Oh, yeah.
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It just says Margie.
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He just made it up.
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Luke Olsen in Alexandria, Virginia.
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Sir Mark Greenwood, Indiana, $50.05. There's another
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birthday donation for the lovely Dame Maria.
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Now we've got $50 donors, name and location
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only.
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Luke Olsen in Alexandria, Virginia.
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Scott Lavender in Montgomery, Texas.
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Andrew Gusek in Greensboro, North Carolina.
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This is in a short list here.
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Michael Sikora in New Richmond, Wisconsin.
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Paul Dubois in Kerhunkson, New York.
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Steve Meyer, he's got a note there, see
3:13:43
what it says.
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Steve Meyer in Goodyear, Arizona.
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And last on the list is Sir Montauk
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in a very short list.
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This is a very short list for Easter.
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Sir Montauk in Fremont, $50.
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And that will be it.
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That's it.
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And Paul in Kerhunkson said, some people in
3:14:03
the world could make the argument that the
3:14:05
U.S. is setting Europe free.
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Will the freed Europeans be able to remain
3:14:09
at peace with each other without the U
3:14:11
.S. lording over them?
3:14:13
Good question.
3:14:14
No, it's not a question.
3:14:15
We know the answer.
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Yes, we know the answer.
3:14:17
And Sir Mark, by the way, he and
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Dame Maria, we actually have a meet-up
3:14:22
report from Indy.
3:14:24
And I'll just read his note because he
3:14:25
loves her so much.
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Happy April 21st.
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Birthday donation for the lovely Dame Maria of
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the Greek Kingdoms.
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My best Dame smoking hot wife from your
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awestruck husband, Sir Mark of the Greenwood, Warden
3:14:35
of the Crossroads.
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And they're on the list, of course.
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And thank you to these donors, $50 and
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above.
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We don't mention the under-50s for reasons
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of anonymity, but we appreciate every single one
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of you, especially those who do those sustaining
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donations, which is any amount, any frequency, you
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Go to noagendadonations.com and support the show
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And again, thank you to the Executive and
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Associate Executive Producers for Episode 1757.
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Again, noagendadonations.com.
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It's your birthday, birthday.
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On No Agenda.
3:15:09
Happy birthday to Richard.
3:15:12
April 20th was his birthday.
3:15:14
That's today.
3:15:15
Commoner, Sir Dudename Ralph, which is his dad,
3:15:17
Raphael, a very happy one.
3:15:19
He turns 85 tomorrow.
3:15:20
Christine Tharp.
3:15:21
Happy birthday to her husband, Mr. Awesome, aka
3:15:24
Ron Tharp.
3:15:25
He celebrates tomorrow.
3:15:27
Also celebrating tomorrow, you just heard it, Sir
3:15:28
Mark.
3:15:29
Happy birthday and congratulations to his smoking hot
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wife, Dame Maria of the Greek Kingdoms.
3:15:34
Chris says happy birthday to his smoking hot
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wife, Margie.
3:15:37
She celebrates on the 22nd.
3:15:39
And Amy M., which is Benjamin M., happy
3:15:41
birthday.
3:15:41
He turns 11 on April 24th.
3:15:44
Happy birthday from everybody here at the best
3:15:46
podcast in the universe.
3:15:49
Now, before we continue, first we have a
3:15:52
night karma.
3:15:53
We always break for the nights.
3:15:54
This is Benjamin Doolan, poor knight of the
3:15:56
wood.
3:15:57
He says he's had a tough couple of
3:15:58
months and more ahead.
3:15:59
He could use some health karma and love
3:16:02
and lit from the Gitmo Nation.
3:16:03
On March 8th, he had a surgery to
3:16:05
amputate his left leg below the knee.
3:16:08
Made necessary by a misdiagnosis about a month
3:16:11
prior that missed a blocked artery in my
3:16:13
left leg.
3:16:14
As of today, I'm still faced with the
3:16:16
possibility of a second amputation above the knee.
3:16:19
I presume it's the on the right knee.
3:16:21
Life has changed.
3:16:21
Any prayers and well wishes, and of course,
3:16:23
no agenda karma.
3:16:24
The show remains the best podcast in the
3:16:26
universe.
3:16:27
Everybody be thinking of our night here.
3:16:29
Here's your karma, brother.
3:16:31
You've got karma.
3:16:34
And then we have a make good from
3:16:36
Ashley Williams.
3:16:37
This is from episode 1756.
3:16:40
She supported us with 333.
3:16:43
And somehow...
3:16:44
Oh, her note got cut off.
3:16:45
Yes.
3:16:45
She's from Norma, Illinois.
3:16:47
And here's the full note with my Instagram
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account, OhHeySamsClub hit 333,000 followers this week.
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Holy crap.
3:16:56
You need to post about no agenda.
3:16:58
I knew it was a sign to make
3:17:00
a first time donation to the best podcast
3:17:02
in the universe.
3:17:03
Aside from Influencer, my tax guy says it's
3:17:06
a real job, I can now add Executive
3:17:08
Producer to my resume, something our four human
3:17:10
resources would undoubtedly brag about to their peers.
3:17:14
It was my husband, Zach, who hit me
3:17:15
in the mouth early in the pandemic, and
3:17:17
the show has been instrumental in helping us
3:17:19
feel sane while everything has become increasingly not
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normal.
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Follow me at OhHeySamsClub, OhHeyWalmart, and OhHeyAldi on
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Instagram, where I share all the things you
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didn't know you needed, now featuring America-made
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goods in America.
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Now this is a good idea.
3:17:38
What a smart idea to be an influencer
3:17:40
for Sam's Club, Walmart, and Aldi.
3:17:45
That's a good idea.
3:17:46
Yeah, this is a noted genius.
3:17:48
Dynamite idea, yes.
3:17:50
Could you do OhHey?
3:17:50
You don't have Aldi's out here.
3:17:52
How about OhHeyNoAgenda?
3:17:54
I'm just saying, might be.
3:17:55
Yeah, there you go.
3:17:57
OhHeyNoAgenda, yeah.
3:17:58
Influence for us, thank you very much, we
3:17:59
appreciate it, and congratulations again with your executive
3:18:03
producership.
3:18:03
And now on to the meetups.
3:18:07
Meetups!
3:18:08
Meetups!
3:18:09
Meetups!
3:18:11
Meetups take place all around the world.
3:18:14
You can find the entire list calendar at
3:18:16
NoAgendaMeetups.com, and we love it when people
3:18:19
send in their meetup reports.
3:18:20
Here's the big one from the Indie April
3:18:22
Meetup.
3:18:22
This is Sir Mark.
3:18:23
And this is Dame Maria, with a chaotic
3:18:25
meetup today in Indianapolis.
3:18:27
Thank you for your courage amongst all the
3:18:29
chaos.
3:18:30
Sir Ohio Bloke, and I made it down
3:18:32
to Indie again.
3:18:33
Nice to meet up with everybody.
3:18:35
Great time as always.
3:18:37
In the morning.
3:18:37
Outer from Indianapolis.
3:18:38
Unfortunately, I am leaving early, but thank you
3:18:41
for your courage in the morning.
3:18:42
In the morning, Dame Trinity having a great
3:18:45
time in Indie after missing the last two
3:18:47
meetups.
3:18:47
It's great to be back with the family.
3:18:49
In the morning, John and Adam, Sir PBR
3:18:51
speaking.
3:18:52
Coming direct to you from the NPR Studios.
3:18:58
Sir Benny here, just watching Sir Mark using
3:19:01
his machine that Adam always talks about.
3:19:03
He's having problems with it, but wish you
3:19:05
guys the best.
3:19:06
Hi, this is Cindy.
3:19:07
Dame of the Titos from Carmel, Indiana.
3:19:09
I'm here to tell you climate change is
3:19:11
real.
3:19:11
We survived the tornadoes.
3:19:12
Hey, it's Gary here, and just a word
3:19:14
out to Elon and everybody else.
3:19:16
What good is Doge finding all the corruption
3:19:18
if nobody is getting arrested?
3:19:19
Brisky here, drinking some beer at the Blind
3:19:22
Isle.
3:19:23
Yo, yo, yo, this is Emily, the currently
3:19:24
employed fed.
3:19:25
Hey, John, can we uh, can we, miga,
3:19:28
can we make ISOs great again?
3:19:30
Get rid of AI.
3:19:31
This is Syrup of the Maple Bot.
3:19:33
I could not make the meetup today, so
3:19:34
I sent an AI agent to do my
3:19:37
meetup report for me.
3:19:38
Sounds good.
3:19:38
In the morning, everybody.
3:19:40
This is the evil Annette Miller cloning Syrup
3:19:42
of the Maple's voice just because I freaking
3:19:44
can.
3:19:44
Hi, this is Brandy at the Blind Isle,
3:19:47
hanging out with, um, No Agenda.
3:19:48
They really look like they have no agenda.
3:19:50
Live from Indianapolis, embrace the chaos.
3:19:56
Embrace the chaos.
3:19:58
That's a good one.
3:19:59
Did we come up with that, or did
3:20:00
they come up with that all by themselves?
3:20:02
Yeah, sounds like them.
3:20:03
I like it.
3:20:04
And thank you for putting your server in
3:20:05
your report.
3:20:06
We need more of those.
3:20:07
Here's Leiden, the Netherlands.
3:20:08
Ah, these guys.
3:20:09
Yeah, I think they were celebrating 420 early.
3:20:12
Baron Rob from Leiden.
3:20:14
Dranklokaal 1650 for another great meetup.
3:20:16
Thank you.
3:20:17
This is Rick.
3:20:18
In the morning.
3:20:19
Great meetup.
3:20:19
Great.
3:20:20
Hello, this is Adam, a big fan.
3:20:23
Thank you for the lot of value.
3:20:25
I never paid for any of it.
3:20:27
Hi, in the morning.
3:20:31
So, what would you do in the morning?
3:20:33
I'll do the rashi in the morning.
3:20:35
Hey, Pedro, in the morning.
3:20:36
In the morning.
3:20:37
Great meetup.
3:20:38
Thank you for organizing Rob in the morning.
3:20:41
For who is Peter, bartender of this evening.
3:20:44
Thank you very much.
3:20:45
This is Sir Henry.
3:20:45
In the morning.
3:20:46
Alright, thank you very much Leiden.
3:20:48
We go over to Japan.
3:20:49
I told you these No Agenda meetups are
3:20:51
bad.
3:20:51
They're worldwide.
3:20:52
This is the, I think, the Kyoto meetup.
3:20:55
Hello, Kyoto.
3:20:56
Come on in.
3:20:57
In the morning.
3:20:58
This is Sir Bill of Osaka coming to
3:21:00
you live from the host city of the
3:21:03
2025 World Expo.
3:21:05
And more importantly, the ITM Airport.
3:21:09
We're here at the Osaka Castle, viewing the
3:21:11
cherry blossoms and enjoying some adult beverages.
3:21:15
A good portion of the participants are ham
3:21:17
radio operators.
3:21:18
We'd like to wish JCD 73s on his
3:21:21
73rd birthday.
3:21:22
We're all glad we were able to pressure
3:21:24
you into renewing your call sign.
3:21:27
This is Sir Skull and Skrull.
3:21:31
ITM.
3:21:32
It's like a party.
3:21:33
In the morning, douche bag.
3:21:36
This is Casey from Osaka, Japan.
3:21:38
It's like a hanami.
3:21:40
ITM from John in Kyoto.
3:21:43
I lowered myself to come down and visit
3:21:46
the Osaka lowlanders, and we had a good
3:21:48
time, but we didn't get to eat whale
3:21:50
meat this time.
3:21:51
Maybe next time.
3:21:54
73s, John.
3:21:56
This is Sir 3D.
3:21:58
We had a great meetup here in Osaka.
3:22:01
Hi, this is Mike.
3:22:02
We had an amazing meetup under the cherry
3:22:04
blossoms and some amazing weather as well.
3:22:06
Really incredible.
3:22:08
Oh, by the way, listen to my podcast,
3:22:09
Adult Music, with the pink neon logo.
3:22:12
We talk about new classical and jazz albums.
3:22:15
Alright.
3:22:17
It was the Osaka meetup, I stand corrected.
3:22:19
And for those hams in Japan, do you
3:22:23
guys do digital?
3:22:25
I'd like to see if I can get
3:22:26
a little cue show going with you guys
3:22:27
on the digital ham.
3:22:29
Send me a note.
3:22:30
That should be fun.
3:22:30
I got 15 watts BEP.
3:22:33
We have a meetup taking place today.
3:22:35
It's the Ottawa meetup for Ottowans.
3:22:37
It's underway now.
3:22:39
Liam McGuire's.
3:22:40
That's the venue in Ottawa, Ontario, Canada.
3:22:43
On Thursday, our next show day, the North
3:22:45
Georgia two-year anniversary meetup.
3:22:47
Six o'clock at Cherry Street Brewing in
3:22:49
Alpharetta, Georgia.
3:22:50
And also on Thursday, it's like a party
3:22:52
in Sacramento.
3:22:53
Six o'clock Sackyard in Sacramento, California.
3:22:57
The douche, Devin, will be hosting that.
3:22:59
Many more meetups throughout June, as I can
3:23:02
see on the calendar here.
3:23:04
Go to noagentomeetups.com.
3:23:05
This is where you get the connection that
3:23:07
gives you protection.
3:23:08
All these people will be first responders in
3:23:11
an emergency.
3:23:12
And you get to hang out with some
3:23:13
fun people.
3:23:14
Send in reports, everybody.
3:23:16
Noagentomeetups.com.
3:23:17
If you can't find one near you, start
3:23:19
one yourself.
3:23:20
Sometimes you wanna go hang out with all
3:23:23
the nights and days.
3:23:27
You wanna be where you won't be.
3:23:29
Triggered or held lame.
3:23:32
You wanna be where everybody feels the same.
3:23:37
It's like a party.
3:23:39
And now we have the machine versus man.
3:23:42
That's right.
3:23:43
I come up with the real ISOs, the
3:23:45
ISOs that are made by people, by human
3:23:47
beings.
3:23:48
John has moved over to the dark side
3:23:50
and he only does his AI-generated drivel.
3:23:53
Slop, slop, slop.
3:23:54
Do you even have any ISOs?
3:23:56
I said you're one.
3:23:57
It was last night.
3:23:59
One.
3:24:00
One ISO?
3:24:01
Yeah, one.
3:24:01
One.
3:24:02
I'm using the one.
3:24:05
This is the way it's gonna be from
3:24:06
now on.
3:24:07
If you have nothing, because you've been picking
3:24:10
your own every time, so if you have
3:24:12
nothing, the one will back you up and
3:24:13
you'll have a good one.
3:24:14
I have four.
3:24:16
Yeah, you always have.
3:24:17
Well, you have four today, you'll have three.
3:24:19
I'm gonna hold yours.
3:24:22
Here we go.
3:24:22
Here's my first.
3:24:24
This is the best podcast in the universe.
3:24:27
That was pretty bad.
3:24:27
That's you.
3:24:28
No, that was not me.
3:24:29
That was not me.
3:24:31
Here's another one I have picked up.
3:24:33
Happy Easter to you and to all out
3:24:35
there listening.
3:24:38
That theory has been debunked.
3:24:42
No, I think I really, I do have
3:24:44
one that I think is worth it.
3:24:45
It's this one.
3:24:45
Oh, man, the show's over.
3:24:48
Yeah, come on.
3:24:50
That sounds like AI to me.
3:24:51
No, that's a kid.
3:24:52
Oh, man, the show's over.
3:24:54
That's not AI.
3:24:55
That's a real kid.
3:24:57
Play mine.
3:24:57
The show was magnifico.
3:25:00
I don't know, man.
3:25:02
Oh, man, the show's over.
3:25:05
Give it to the kid.
3:25:06
We give it to the kid.
3:25:07
John, you are such a mensch.
3:25:08
Thank you very much.
3:25:09
And now, everybody, it's time for John's tip
3:25:11
of the day.
3:25:23
So my tip of the day is not
3:25:27
to buy a Beelink.
3:25:30
It's an anti-tip of the day.
3:25:33
So what I did was I decided to...
3:25:36
Hold on a second.
3:25:37
Even though we didn't have official tips of
3:25:39
the day, without a doubt, Beelink at one
3:25:42
point would have been a tip of the
3:25:44
day.
3:25:44
You were telling everybody, oh, you got to
3:25:46
get the Beelink.
3:25:46
It's great.
3:25:47
Well, it's a cheap little computer that works
3:25:49
until it doesn't.
3:25:51
Yes.
3:25:52
And so, but, I mean, I'm still just
3:25:56
hanging in there, but I decided I'm going
3:25:58
to run Linux on this thing and see
3:25:59
if I can do it.
3:25:59
But then I said, well, you know, I
3:26:01
want to run live Linux.
3:26:03
So just stick in that USB stick and
3:26:06
make a run.
3:26:08
So you got to get in...
3:26:09
Okay.
3:26:09
If you want to run a live anything,
3:26:11
you get the ISO, which is the...
3:26:15
Yeah.
3:26:16
The image.
3:26:17
ISO stands for something.
3:26:18
I don't remember what.
3:26:19
Image something.
3:26:21
Is it the image of the disk?
3:26:24
Of the disk, yes.
3:26:25
But you want to run it.
3:26:27
You want to make it bootable.
3:26:29
And so you want to make a live
3:26:31
version of, like, for example, I have an
3:26:33
ISO of Linux that I could run.
3:26:36
Mint.
3:26:36
Mint Linux.
3:26:37
I think it's up to version 24 or
3:26:39
something.
3:26:39
It's ridiculous.
3:26:41
They still haven't got any good audio stuff,
3:26:43
which is weird.
3:26:44
Don't get me started.
3:26:46
You need to get a copy of this.
3:26:48
This is a handy product anyway.
3:26:49
It's called Balena Etcher.
3:26:51
Oh, yes.
3:26:52
Well, anyone who has ever made a live
3:26:54
Linux USB has a copy of Balena Etcher.
3:26:59
So that's my tip of the day.
3:27:00
Get a copy of Balena Etcher.
3:27:01
Make a live...
3:27:04
It's for USB.
3:27:05
It also burn a disk, but it's for
3:27:06
making live USBs, which is the easiest way
3:27:09
to do it.
3:27:09
You know, it's great.
3:27:11
I'm going to add to your tip.
3:27:13
You can actually then take your computer with
3:27:15
you and wherever you are, you just say,
3:27:17
hey, can I just borrow your computer?
3:27:19
Bam!
3:27:19
You jack that stick in there.
3:27:21
You change the boot order, and there's your
3:27:23
computer back.
3:27:26
First of all, you have to go into
3:27:28
the guy's system and change the boot order,
3:27:31
which is insulting.
3:27:35
Is it not insulting?
3:27:37
Maybe it's not insulting.
3:27:40
But, yes, you can do exactly what Adam
3:27:42
said.
3:27:43
But Balena Etcher is the way to make
3:27:44
these...
3:27:45
is the best way, at least currently.
3:27:47
There's other systems that do this.
3:27:49
I used something else before.
3:27:50
But it's a good way to do it.
3:27:51
But you want these live...
3:27:54
It's called live because it boots from the
3:27:56
little...
3:27:56
from the stick.
3:27:58
You don't have to install it on the
3:27:59
machine.
3:28:00
Because if I...
3:28:02
I was going to say, what is the
3:28:04
advantage of using the live, according to you
3:28:07
as the tip monster?
3:28:08
That way, when you take the stick out,
3:28:10
then it goes back to the old operating
3:28:11
system.
3:28:12
You still have everything.
3:28:13
You still have all your old stuff intact.
3:28:16
So, what happened to your B-Link that
3:28:18
you decided to go this way?
3:28:22
I'm getting a story.
3:28:24
I think it's the...
3:28:26
whether it's the B-Link itself, probably not
3:28:28
the B-Link itself, as opposed to the
3:28:30
SSD that is failing.
3:28:35
Yes.
3:28:35
So, what you're saying, this is a tip.
3:28:37
When your crappy old machine craps out, you
3:28:40
can still bring it back to life with
3:28:41
a live Linux USB.
3:28:43
Yeah, or you could run Windows off the
3:28:46
little USB, too, if you wanted to.
3:28:47
Oh, no, no, no.
3:28:49
Is there a live Windows?
3:28:52
You can make it with...
3:28:53
You can make a live Windows if you
3:28:55
want.
3:28:55
Whatever you do, don't make a live Windows
3:28:57
stick, people.
3:28:58
Get your Balena Etcher.
3:28:59
That's what you want.
3:29:00
That is John C.
3:29:01
Dvorak's Tip of the Day.
3:29:02
Go to tipoftheday.net, noagendafund.com.
3:29:11
And sometimes, Adam.
3:29:14
Created by Dana Brunetti.
3:29:16
Well, we have quite the bonanza coming up
3:29:19
on the live stream.
3:29:21
So, first of all, after today's show, Canary
3:29:24
Cry Talk News, and they will be doing
3:29:26
some eschatology with the false prophets in the
3:29:29
last days, which is a call-in discussion,
3:29:32
apparently.
3:29:33
But tonight, at 10 o'clock Eastern, a
3:29:35
420 Bowl after Bowl Easter special, Sir Spencer
3:29:39
and Dana Brunetti and Sam DeLorean will be
3:29:40
hanging out with Make Heroism and Mary K.
3:29:43
Ultra.
3:29:44
So you know they'll be spinning some value
3:29:46
for value tracks and having a grand old
3:29:48
time.
3:29:50
It's all live on the noagenda stream, trollroom
3:29:52
.io, or your modern podcast apps.
3:29:55
And we have end-of-show mixes from
3:29:57
GX2, a classic that I pulled for you.
3:30:00
We've got Matty J.
3:30:01
And brand new from Commodore Dubs, who will
3:30:05
have our customer service agent, Steve, the anonymous
3:30:09
Indian.
3:30:10
And, of course, we will return on Thursday
3:30:12
for more of your media deconstruction.
3:30:15
I'm sure something will happen that we'll have
3:30:16
to talk about.
3:30:18
Breaking news is all around us all the
3:30:20
time.
3:30:21
Coming to you from the heart of the
3:30:22
Texas Hill Country, where it actually turned out
3:30:24
a nice day today.
3:30:25
It's in the high 70s.
3:30:26
In the morning, everybody, I'm out of curry.
3:30:28
Boy, I want curry.
3:30:30
Oh, thank you.
3:30:32
And from northern Silicon Valley, I'm John C.
3:30:34
Bach.
3:30:35
We return Thursday.
3:30:36
Until then, remember us at dvorak.org slash
3:30:38
na noagendadonations.com.
3:30:40
Until next time, adios, mofos, a-hooey, hooey,
3:30:44
and such.
3:30:47
We're taking
3:31:00
things that are organisms and we're injecting them
3:31:06
into little kids' arms.
3:31:08
We just shoot them right into the vein.
3:31:09
We just shoot, just shoot, right into the
3:31:12
vein.
3:31:22
And we're taking things that are genetically modified
3:31:27
organisms and we're injecting them into little kids'
3:31:30
arms.
3:31:30
We just shoot right into the vein.
3:31:32
We just shoot, just shoot, right into the
3:31:34
vein.
3:31:37
We just shoot right into the vein.
3:31:40
We just shoot, we just shoot right into
3:31:42
the vein.
3:31:47
There's nothing embarrassing about a hen laying an
3:31:49
egg and you'd better lay one or it's
3:31:51
your neck.
3:31:52
I, uh, give them the old needle once
3:31:55
in a while.
3:31:55
I love eggs!
3:31:56
Egg prices are continuing to soar.
3:31:59
The cost of eggs has been soaring across
3:32:02
the country.
3:32:02
High cost of eggs.
3:32:04
So what's behind eggflation?
3:32:07
Pathogenic influenza, more commonly known as bird flu.
3:32:10
The worst bird flu outbreak in years that
3:32:13
has just swept through the country.
3:32:15
Tens of millions of birds have died or
3:32:17
been slaughtered.
3:32:18
Bird flu has reduced the egg-laying hen
3:32:20
population by more than 40 million.
3:32:22
40 million, that's astounding to think about that.
3:32:25
Looks like eggs are the new toilet paper.
3:32:27
It's extremely bad news.
3:32:29
You might want to consider alternatives.
3:32:31
This is an egg replacement item.
3:32:33
These chickens that were laying eggs, those are
3:32:36
mature hens, right?
3:32:37
So we don't get a mature hen overnight.
3:32:40
It takes some time for a chick who
3:32:42
hatches out of an egg to be lasting
3:32:44
us into the summer.
3:32:45
Can I offer you a nice egg in
3:32:48
this trying time?
3:32:49
Yeah, he's got an egg, you might as
3:32:50
well have it.
3:32:51
If you can't afford some dollar an hour
3:32:53
person in India, I mean, you can barely
3:32:56
speak English, this would be better than this.
3:32:59
The true AI.
3:33:01
Anonymous Indian, that's what we mean.
3:33:05
The true AI.
3:33:07
Anonymous Indian, that's what we mean.
3:33:13
Always name Steve.
3:33:21
Customer service, this is Steve.
3:33:23
The true AI.
3:33:25
Customer service, this is Steve.
3:33:27
Thank you for calling.
3:33:28
Anonymous Indian.
3:33:29
Customer service, this is Steve.
3:33:31
Yes, my friend.
3:33:33
Customer service, this is Steve.
3:33:35
What is your name, please?
3:33:37
Customer service, this is Steve.
3:33:39
Alright, listen very carefully, my friend.
3:33:41
Customer service, this is Steve.
3:33:43
I need to advise you that this call
3:33:45
may be recorded to help with better customer
3:33:47
service in the future.
3:33:48
Is that agreeable to you?
3:33:51
Did I take care of all your customer
3:33:52
needs in a timely and satisfactory fashion today?
3:33:57
Customer service, this is Steve.
3:33:59
The true AI.
3:34:01
Anonymous Indian, that's what we need.
3:34:03
Customer service, this is Steve.
3:34:08
The best podcast in the universe.
3:34:15
Adios, mofo.
3:34:17
Dvorak.org slash NA.
3:34:21
Oh man, the show's over.