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            You are in a horrible mood today.
          
                  
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            Adam Curry, John C.
          
                  
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            Dvorak.
          
                  
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            It's Sunday, April 27, 2025.
          
                  
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            This is your award-winning give-on-Asian
          
                  
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            -media assassination episode 1759.
          
                  
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            This is no agenda.
          
                  
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            Vibe coding and broadcasting live from the heart
          
                  
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            of a Texas hill country right here in
          
                  
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            FEMA region number 6.
          
                  
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            In the morning, everybody.
          
                  
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            I'm Adam Curry.
          
                  
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            And from Northern Silicon Valley, where they want
          
                  
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            to round up the judges.
          
                  
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            I'm John C.
          
                  
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            Dvorak.
          
                  
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            It's Crackpot and Buzzkill.
          
                  
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            In the morning.
          
                  
            0:32
          
          
            Yeah, best, funniest thing ever.
          
                  
            0:35
          
          
            Funniest thing ever.
          
                  
            0:36
          
          
            Rounding up the judges.
          
                  
            0:38
          
          
            Oh no.
          
                  
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            It's a constitutional crisis.
          
                  
            0:43
          
          
            I love it.
          
                  
            0:44
          
          
            I have a clip.
          
                  
            0:45
          
          
            Do you have any clips of that?
          
                  
            0:46
          
          
            I got plenty of clips.
          
                  
            0:47
          
          
            Well, first I need to tell you, I
          
                  
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            don't know if you've been following the news,
          
                  
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            but there's been quite the setback in peace
          
                  
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            negotiations.
          
                  
            0:56
          
          
            This is just breaking.
          
                  
            0:58
          
          
            You're talking about this morning.
          
                  
            1:00
          
          
            Breaking big setback in peace negotiations.
          
                  
            1:03
          
          
            Yeah.
          
                  
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            Between myself and Andrew Horowitz.
          
                  
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            Oh.
          
                  
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            He called me Saturday night.
          
                  
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            No.
          
                  
            1:14
          
          
            Yeah, Saturday night.
          
                  
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            And you hung up on him.
          
                  
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            He drunk called me.
          
                  
            1:22
          
          
            Oh, that's not good.
          
                  
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            From a party.
          
                  
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            From a party.
          
                  
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            He had a party with friends.
          
                  
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            He has these huge parties.
          
                  
            1:30
          
          
            I can see that.
          
                  
            1:31
          
          
            Hey, man.
          
                  
            1:33
          
          
            Here's someone who wants to talk to you.
          
                  
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            And he puts me on with, you know,
          
                  
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            granted, a no agenda producer.
          
                  
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            I can't believe I'm talking to you.
          
                  
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            You saved me during COVID.
          
                  
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            I'm like, oh, that's very nice of you
          
                  
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            to say.
          
                  
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            I'm like, so did Andrew just sit there
          
                  
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            and go like, oh, I can call Currie
          
                  
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            whenever I want.
          
                  
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            She said, yeah, pretty much.
          
                  
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            That's a funny idea.
          
                  
            1:56
          
          
            Yes, I can get a hold of the
          
                  
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            big boy.
          
                  
            1:58
          
          
            I can talk to that man whenever I
          
                  
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            want.
          
                  
            2:00
          
          
            I have his number on speed dial.
          
                  
            2:01
          
          
            Yes, you've seen him on Joe Rogan.
          
                  
            2:02
          
          
            I've got him right here.
          
                  
            2:04
          
          
            Let me call him for you.
          
                  
            2:05
          
          
            He always takes my call.
          
                  
            2:07
          
          
            So he pulled a Biden.
          
                  
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            A Biden?
          
                  
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            Yes, what Hunter Biden used to do all
          
                  
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            the time.
          
                  
            2:15
          
          
            Oh, Hunter Biden, yes.
          
                  
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            But wait a minute.
          
                  
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            Then I'm Joe Biden in that case.
          
                  
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            I don't think that's very good.
          
                  
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            Yes, that's what I'm thinking.
          
                  
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            I don't like that so much.
          
                  
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            Joe Biden.
          
                  
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            So looks like things are not over yet.
          
                  
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            Not over.
          
                  
            2:33
          
          
            Nope, nope, nope, nope, nope.
          
                  
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            Well, at least the producer got to talk
          
                  
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            to you.
          
                  
            2:37
          
          
            Yeah, she was very nice.
          
                  
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            But, you know, still, I mean, and I
          
                  
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            even say, Andrew, are you calling?
          
                  
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            Are you just, are you drunk?
          
                  
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            He said, yeah.
          
                  
            2:44
          
          
            It should have been a Saturday night is
          
                  
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            not a time to call.
          
                  
            2:47
          
          
            I should have recorded it.
          
                  
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            That was my bad.
          
                  
            2:50
          
          
            Yeah, exactly.
          
                  
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            I should have done that.
          
                  
            2:53
          
          
            But then he'd have been really irked.
          
                  
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            You know, this is, and then we'll get
          
                  
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            to the judges.
          
                  
            3:03
          
          
            So I had this Robert, Sarah Pope pick
          
                  
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            in mind.
          
                  
            3:09
          
          
            You know, even when the Pope got sick,
          
                  
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            I was already looking around.
          
                  
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            And that was the first guy that came
          
                  
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            to mind.
          
                  
            3:15
          
          
            So I pick him on the last episode
          
                  
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            as kind of a long shot.
          
                  
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            But, you know, it's like, I think this
          
                  
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            is the guy.
          
                  
            3:21
          
          
            And now, have you seen this?
          
                  
            3:24
          
          
            He's gone viral.
          
                  
            3:27
          
          
            He's become the anti-globalist faithful's favorite new
          
                  
            3:31
          
          
            Pope.
          
                  
            3:33
          
          
            There's articles about him everywhere all of a
          
                  
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            sudden.
          
                  
            3:36
          
          
            You know, people listen to our show.
          
                  
            3:39
          
          
            At the Gateway Pundit?
          
                  
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            Maybe.
          
                  
            3:41
          
          
            At the Telegraph?
          
                  
            3:43
          
          
            Anyone's going to listen to them.
          
                  
            3:46
          
          
            Cardinal Robert Sarafgini is exactly the kind of
          
                  
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            anti-woke Pope that many conservatives...
          
                  
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            That means the likelihood of him getting it
          
                  
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            is less.
          
                  
            3:53
          
          
            It's just less.
          
                  
            3:55
          
          
            In fact, I have some Pope...
          
                  
            3:57
          
          
            Well, let's start with that stuff.
          
                  
            3:58
          
          
            I got some Pope analysis.
          
                  
            4:01
          
          
            All right.
          
                  
            4:02
          
          
            Let's start with...
          
                  
            4:05
          
          
            You're a little low on volume today.
          
                  
            4:07
          
          
            I'm going to crank you up.
          
                  
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            Boost me.
          
                  
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            Boost, boost, boost.
          
                  
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            You're boosted.
          
                  
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            Consider yourself boosted.
          
                  
            4:13
          
          
            All right.
          
                  
            4:15
          
          
            Let's start with just the plain clips, which
          
                  
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            would be PayPal event and Trump report.
          
                  
            4:24
          
          
            PBS.
          
                  
            4:26
          
          
            Before paying his respects at the coffin, President
          
                  
            4:29
          
          
            Trump sat down with Ukraine's President Zelensky for
          
                  
            4:32
          
          
            the first time since their rancorous confrontation in
          
                  
            4:35
          
          
            the Oval Office two months ago.
          
                  
            4:38
          
          
            Trump reportedly pressured Zelensky to accept a plan
          
                  
            4:42
          
          
            in which Ukraine will formally surrender territory occupied
          
                  
            4:45
          
          
            by Russia, including the Crimean Peninsula, as well
          
                  
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            as granting the United States an enormous stake
          
                  
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            in Ukraine's mineral wealth.
          
                  
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            As far as the White House is concerned,
          
                  
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            this is the only feasible deal.
          
                  
            4:59
          
          
            On the ex-social media platform, Zelensky described
          
                  
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            the meeting as very symbolic and potentially historic.
          
                  
            5:06
          
          
            Thanking Trump, he said he was hoping for
          
                  
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            results on everything covered in their discussions, protecting
          
                  
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            the lives of Ukrainians, a full and unconditional
          
                  
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            ceasefire, and a reliable and lasting peace that
          
                  
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            would prevent another war from breaking out.
          
                  
            5:21
          
          
            But in a post on his Truth Social
          
                  
            5:23
          
          
            network, President Trump launched a broadside against Russia's
          
                  
            5:27
          
          
            Vladimir Putin.
          
                  
            5:28
          
          
            He said there was no reason to shoot
          
                  
            5:30
          
          
            missiles into civilian areas.
          
                  
            5:31
          
          
            It makes me think, he said, that maybe
          
                  
            5:34
          
          
            Putin doesn't want to stop the war and
          
                  
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            is just tapping me along.
          
                  
            5:38
          
          
            When Trump emerged into St. Peter's Square, he
          
                  
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            was met with silence.
          
                  
            5:42
          
          
            The contrast with Zelensky's appearance could not have
          
                  
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            been greater.
          
                  
            5:46
          
          
            Warm applause greeted the Ukrainian president as he
          
                  
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            took his seat.
          
                  
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            And then the grand ceremony began in earnest,
          
                  
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            with the coffin carried from the Basilica into
          
                  
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            the Square.
          
                  
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            The congregation was addressed by 91-year-old
          
                  
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            Italian Cardinal Giovanni Battista Rea.
          
                  
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            In this majestic St. Peter's Square, where Pope
          
                  
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            Francis celebrated the Eucharist so many times and
          
                  
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            presided over great gatherings over the past 12
          
                  
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            years, we are gathered with sad hearts in
          
                  
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            prayer around his mortal remains.
          
                  
            6:18
          
          
            I was reminded by our resident Catholic Void
          
                  
            6:23
          
          
            Zero, it is pronounced Sarah.
          
                  
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            Sarah.
          
                  
            6:26
          
          
            Sarah.
          
                  
            6:27
          
          
            Not Sarah.
          
                  
            6:29
          
          
            Okay, Sarah, Sarah.
          
                  
            6:31
          
          
            Pope Sarah, Sarah.
          
                  
            6:34
          
          
            So, there's one thing in that clip, and
          
                  
            6:37
          
          
            everybody reporting on this said...
          
                  
            6:40
          
          
            About the applause for Zelensky and no applause
          
                  
            6:43
          
          
            for Trump.
          
                  
            6:43
          
          
            No, actually that was only reported by PBS.
          
                  
            6:46
          
          
            Of course.
          
                  
            6:48
          
          
            Everybody reported on Trump's post and without question
          
                  
            6:54
          
          
            they said, I think he's tapping me along.
          
                  
            7:00
          
          
            Tapping me?
          
                  
            7:01
          
          
            Was that in the post?
          
                  
            7:02
          
          
            Tapping me along?
          
                  
            7:03
          
          
            Yeah, it's in the post.
          
                  
            7:04
          
          
            Everybody read it.
          
                  
            7:05
          
          
            It's in that clip.
          
                  
            7:08
          
          
            What does that even mean?
          
                  
            7:10
          
          
            And no one's questioning it.
          
                  
            7:11
          
          
            It's like, what phrase...
          
                  
            7:14
          
          
            Where does this come from?
          
                  
            7:15
          
          
            Is that code for something we don't know
          
                  
            7:17
          
          
            about?
          
                  
            7:17
          
          
            Maybe it's something he told...
          
                  
            7:18
          
          
            Don't worry, Putin, when I use the word
          
                  
            7:20
          
          
            tapping, we're not tapping out.
          
                  
            7:23
          
          
            Hmm.
          
                  
            7:24
          
          
            I just found it peculiar that nobody and
          
                  
            7:27
          
          
            you included right now...
          
                  
            7:29
          
          
            Well, I thought it was a British thing.
          
                  
            7:33
          
          
            Why would Trump be using a Britishism?
          
                  
            7:35
          
          
            I don't know.
          
                  
            7:37
          
          
            I don't know.
          
                  
            7:37
          
          
            Tapping.
          
                  
            7:38
          
          
            Because the...
          
                  
            7:40
          
          
            What would the phrase be?
          
                  
            7:42
          
          
            It would be dragging me along?
          
                  
            7:45
          
          
            Tap...
          
                  
            7:47
          
          
            Stringing.
          
                  
            7:48
          
          
            Stringing, that's it.
          
                  
            7:49
          
          
            Stringing me along.
          
                  
            7:51
          
          
            Well, ChatGPT doesn't know it.
          
                  
            7:54
          
          
            ChatGPT says, what is that, a song?
          
                  
            7:58
          
          
            Tapping me along.
          
                  
            7:59
          
          
            Interesting.
          
                  
            8:01
          
          
            And everybody read it without question.
          
                  
            8:04
          
          
            Without question, yeah.
          
                  
            8:06
          
          
            Without wondering what the hell it means or
          
                  
            8:07
          
          
            why he said tapping.
          
                  
            8:10
          
          
            It's like covfefe.
          
                  
            8:13
          
          
            It's a blurt.
          
                  
            8:14
          
          
            It's a blurt.
          
                  
            8:15
          
          
            It's a mini-blurt.
          
                  
            8:16
          
          
            It's a blurtlet.
          
                  
            8:17
          
          
            Well, it didn't work because I'm the only
          
                  
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            one who seems to have caught it.
          
                  
            8:20
          
          
            Tapping me along.
          
                  
            8:22
          
          
            So, let's go to Papal Event 2 where
          
                  
            8:24
          
          
            they wrapped us up.
          
                  
            8:25
          
          
            This is where PBS...
          
                  
            8:28
          
          
            I mean, they slammed Trump in that first
          
                  
            8:30
          
          
            clip about, oh, you know, as long as
          
                  
            8:32
          
          
            you got applause and everyone's silent when Trump
          
                  
            8:35
          
          
            came in.
          
                  
            8:36
          
          
            You're supposed to be silent anyway.
          
                  
            8:38
          
          
            We talked about peace in Ukraine dominating the
          
                  
            8:41
          
          
            diplomatic agenda.
          
                  
            8:43
          
          
            The Cardinal reminded the throng of Francis' despair
          
                  
            8:46
          
          
            at the futility of war.
          
                  
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            Faced with the raging wars of recent years
          
                  
            8:52
          
          
            with their inhuman horrors and countless deaths and
          
                  
            8:56
          
          
            destruction, Pope Francis incessantly raised his voice imploring
          
                  
            9:01
          
          
            peace.
          
                  
            9:02
          
          
            War, he said, is only the death of
          
                  
            9:05
          
          
            people and the destruction of homes, hospitals and
          
                  
            9:09
          
          
            schools.
          
                  
            9:10
          
          
            Then the Cardinal named what some commentators interpreted
          
                  
            9:14
          
          
            as a barbed missive at President Trump and
          
                  
            9:17
          
          
            his war on the Mexican border.
          
                  
            9:19
          
          
            This is PBS?
          
                  
            9:22
          
          
            Yeah.
          
                  
            9:22
          
          
            They got this British MI6 guy that comes
          
                  
            9:25
          
          
            every once in a while and gives his
          
                  
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            reports.
          
                  
            9:26
          
          
            It sounds like he's doing a newsreel from
          
                  
            9:28
          
          
            World War II.
          
                  
            9:30
          
          
            Yeah.
          
                  
            9:31
          
          
            War on the Mexican border.
          
                  
            9:33
          
          
            War always leaves the world worse than it
          
                  
            9:36
          
          
            was before.
          
                  
            9:38
          
          
            It is always a painful and tragic defeat
          
                  
            9:40
          
          
            for everyone.
          
                  
            9:41
          
          
            Build bridges, not walls, was an exhortation he
          
                  
            9:46
          
          
            repeated many times.
          
                  
            9:48
          
          
            In conclusion, Cardinal Battista Rea appealed to Pope
          
                  
            9:52
          
          
            Francis in the afterlife.
          
                  
            9:55
          
          
            Pope Francis used to conclude his speeches and
          
                  
            9:58
          
          
            also his private meetings by saying, do not
          
                  
            10:02
          
          
            forget to pray for me.
          
                  
            10:03
          
          
            He used to say, like, no gays.
          
                  
            10:05
          
          
            That's what he used to say in the
          
                  
            10:06
          
          
            private meetings.
          
                  
            10:07
          
          
            Now, dear Pope Francis, we ask you to
          
                  
            10:10
          
          
            pray for us and we ask you from
          
                  
            10:13
          
          
            heaven to bless the church, bless Rome, and
          
                  
            10:16
          
          
            bless the whole world.
          
                  
            10:20
          
          
            After communion and an invocation to the saints
          
                  
            10:23
          
          
            and martyrs, the funeral service came to an
          
                  
            10:26
          
          
            end.
          
                  
            10:27
          
          
            Before you move on to the analysis, I
          
                  
            10:29
          
          
            have three shorties I'd like to insert, if
          
                  
            10:32
          
          
            that's okay with you.
          
                  
            10:34
          
          
            It's fine with me.
          
                  
            10:34
          
          
            It's from Inside Edition.
          
                  
            10:37
          
          
            What?
          
                  
            10:38
          
          
            With Deborah Norville?
          
                  
            10:39
          
          
            Yeah, I didn't know that Deborah Norville had
          
                  
            10:41
          
          
            been downgraded to Inside Edition.
          
                  
            10:45
          
          
            Hello?
          
                  
            10:46
          
          
            Isn't that a downgrade?
          
                  
            10:48
          
          
            She's been on Inside Edition.
          
                  
            10:49
          
          
            She's the one who saved the show after
          
                  
            10:52
          
          
            she got fired from the Today show on
          
                  
            10:54
          
          
            NBC.
          
                  
            10:55
          
          
            I completely forgot.
          
                  
            10:58
          
          
            20 years ago.
          
                  
            10:59
          
          
            Yeah, well, there you go.
          
                  
            11:00
          
          
            I forgot about it.
          
                  
            11:01
          
          
            Here's her report that she filed.
          
                  
            11:03
          
          
            Hello, everybody, and thank you for joining us
          
                  
            11:05
          
          
            as we broadcast today from Vatican City.
          
                  
            11:08
          
          
            The funeral of Pope Francis will be taking
          
                  
            11:10
          
          
            place right here tomorrow at St. Peter's Square.
          
                  
            11:14
          
          
            130 foreign delegations are confirmed to attend, including
          
                  
            11:18
          
          
            50 heads of state and 10 reigning sovereigns.
          
                  
            11:22
          
          
            President Trump and First Lady Melania Trump will
          
                  
            11:24
          
          
            be here, along with former President Joe Biden,
          
                  
            11:27
          
          
            all to say their final farewells to the
          
                  
            11:30
          
          
            People's Pope.
          
                  
            11:30
          
          
            The People's Pope.
          
                  
            11:32
          
          
            Did you know that he was the People's
          
                  
            11:33
          
          
            Pope?
          
                  
            11:35
          
          
            I think I may have heard that before.
          
                  
            11:39
          
          
            It doesn't sound right.
          
                  
            11:41
          
          
            He wasn't the People's Pope.
          
                  
            11:43
          
          
            He was the woke Pope.
          
                  
            11:45
          
          
            He definitely was the woke Pope.
          
                  
            11:47
          
          
            The Pope's lying in state came to an
          
                  
            11:49
          
          
            end today as the last of the mourners
          
                  
            11:51
          
          
            filed past his coffin.
          
                  
            11:53
          
          
            Pope Francis would have loved this moment when
          
                  
            11:55
          
          
            a lone little girl said her farewell.
          
                  
            11:58
          
          
            President Trump and First Lady Melania Trump left
          
                  
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            for the funeral today, praising the pontiff.
          
                  
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            I met him twice.
          
                  
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            I thought he was a fantastic kind of
          
                  
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            a guy.
          
                  
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            Hey, he wasn't a great Pope.
          
                  
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            He was a fantastic kind of a guy.
          
                  
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            He was a kind of a guy, you
          
                  
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            know?
          
                  
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            That's how gangsters talk about each other.
          
                  
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            He was a fantastic kind of a guy.
          
                  
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            I thought he was a fantastic kind of
          
                  
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            a guy.
          
                  
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            Seating arrangements could be complicated.
          
                  
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            I spoke with CBS Evening News.
          
                  
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            Hold on a second.
          
                  
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            Inside Edition does have some producers that I
          
                  
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            never heard that clip from Trump saying that's
          
                  
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            a clip you want to use.
          
                  
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            It's great.
          
                  
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            It's fantastic.
          
                  
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            That's why I'm playing the clips.
          
                  
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            But Inside Edition has done this.
          
                  
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            They had the little girls part.
          
                  
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            I didn't know about that either.
          
                  
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            Well, scripted, clearly.
          
                  
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            Well, hello.
          
                  
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            But having a good soundbite is always a
          
                  
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            winner, especially if it's off.
          
                  
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            The three mainstream networks, everything they do is
          
                  
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            almost identical.
          
                  
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            I know.
          
                  
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            I was finished.
          
                  
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            I'm sorry.
          
                  
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            That's okay.
          
                  
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            I thought he was a fantastic kind of
          
                  
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            a guy.
          
                  
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            Seating arrangements could be complicated.
          
                  
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            I spoke with CBS Evening News co-anchor
          
                  
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            John Dickerson.
          
                  
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            The President of the United States and First
          
                  
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            Lady will be here.
          
                  
            13:13
          
          
            I understand also former President Biden will be
          
                  
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            attending.
          
                  
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            What challenges, if any, does that propose?
          
                  
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            At ceremonies like this, former presidents usually put
          
                  
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            away all of their past acrimony, and so
          
                  
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            you would expect that here.
          
                  
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            One would hope that tradition would hold in
          
                  
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            the behavior of the two past presidents, but
          
                  
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            tradition has been taking a bit of a
          
                  
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            pounding recently.
          
                  
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            Oh, tradition has been taking a bit of
          
                  
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            a pounding recently.
          
                  
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            Really?
          
                  
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            One example?
          
                  
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            None.
          
                  
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            None.
          
                  
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            None.
          
                  
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            But this little ditty was also something I
          
                  
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            don't think showed up anywhere but on Inside
          
                  
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            Edition.
          
                  
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            The funeral is a security nightmare.
          
                  
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            These strange looking weapons are drone busters.
          
                  
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            Did you see the drone busters?
          
                  
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            Yeah, they showed a lot of pictures of
          
                  
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            them.
          
                  
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            Oh, they were showing it?
          
                  
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            Okay.
          
                  
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            They jammed the signal to a drone.
          
                  
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            There's also an extraordinary media operation underway in
          
                  
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            preparation for Saturday's historic funeral.
          
                  
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            I spoke with ABC News 2020 co-anchor
          
                  
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            Deborah Roberts.
          
                  
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            This is a pope who touched people around
          
                  
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            the globe.
          
                  
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            They call him the people's pope.
          
                  
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            And this is a man who really just
          
                  
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            embraced anybody, the poor, the least among us.
          
                  
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            He embraced everybody, the people's pope.
          
                  
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            He was literally pulling his hands away from
          
                  
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            people.
          
                  
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            Remember that?
          
                  
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            He's like, don't touch me, you dirty pleb.
          
                  
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            I remember.
          
                  
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            I remember these things.
          
                  
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            The people's pope.
          
                  
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            All right.
          
                  
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            That's it.
          
                  
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            That's all I got.
          
                  
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            Just a little intermezzo there for you.
          
                  
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            I have a list that I was sent
          
                  
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            of all the bad things this guy did
          
                  
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            in terms of traditional Catholicism.
          
                  
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            Like appointing fake cardinals in China, for instance?
          
                  
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            Yeah, well, letting the Chinese government pick the
          
                  
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            cardinals.
          
                  
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            Well, there you go.
          
                  
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            Named pro-LGBT clergy as cardinals.
          
                  
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            Honored Martin Luther, who broke up the Catholic,
          
                  
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            you know, just basically began the whole Protestantism
          
                  
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            thing.
          
                  
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            And he honored him.
          
                  
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            There you go.
          
                  
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            Which is like, what?
          
                  
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            He criticized large Catholic families who breed like
          
                  
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            rabbits, quote unquote.
          
                  
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            I forgot that one.
          
                  
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            Stop breeding like rabbits!
          
                  
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            Which is like, you know, now we have
          
                  
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            this population decline of Western civilization.
          
                  
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            Isn't it helping?
          
                  
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            Well, he was the globalist pope.
          
                  
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            That's why.
          
                  
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            He was the, you'll own nothing and you'll
          
                  
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            be happy.
          
                  
            15:45
          
          
            Oh, wait, that was the other pope.
          
                  
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            That was Schwab.
          
                  
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            Pope Schwab.
          
                  
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            Approved Holy Communion for adulterers.
          
                  
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            Oh, no.
          
                  
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            Shocking.
          
                  
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            Shamed Catholics into taking the COVID shot.
          
                  
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            That was a big one.
          
                  
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            What's the one he's got on here?
          
                  
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            This list is a mile long.
          
                  
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            I'm going to find a couple of gems.
          
                  
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            There's one I'm looking for, which is where
          
                  
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            he promoted depopulation of the world.
          
                  
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            Promoted depopulation.
          
                  
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            Relentlessly belittled traditional Catholics as backwards, rigid, self
          
                  
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            -absorbed, told an atheist journalist that sinful souls
          
                  
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            are not punished.
          
                  
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            He didn't think there was a hell.
          
                  
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            It ushered in a kind of a Marxism
          
                  
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            model.
          
                  
            16:44
          
          
            He goes on, I told Muslims to stay
          
                  
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            Muslim.
          
                  
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            Do your thing, man.
          
                  
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            The list is a mile long.
          
                  
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            It's just like one thing after another.
          
                  
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            And therefore the people's pope.
          
                  
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            The people's pope.
          
                  
            17:02
          
          
            I think we're on.
          
                  
            17:03
          
          
            Do we went to clip two?
          
                  
            17:04
          
          
            The analysis.
          
                  
            17:06
          
          
            Also from PBS, which is always on target.
          
                  
            17:10
          
          
            John Allen has covered the Vatican for 30
          
                  
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            years.
          
                  
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            He's editor of Crux, an online site that
          
                  
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            covers the Vatican and the Catholic Church.
          
                  
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            Crux?
          
                  
            17:18
          
          
            Is that the name of the site?
          
                  
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            Crux.
          
                  
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            John, practically all the cardinals who are eligible
          
                  
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            to vote, that means the cardinals who are
          
                  
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            under the age of 80, were at today's
          
                  
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            funeral.
          
                  
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            They'll be in Rome leading up to the
          
                  
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            conclave.
          
                  
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            In those days, are they going to be
          
                  
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            talking to each other, either formally or informally,
          
                  
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            about who they might see as the next
          
                  
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            pope?
          
                  
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            Oh, absolutely they'll be talking to one another
          
                  
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            about who they see as the next pope.
          
                  
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            That is, after all, the business they have
          
                  
            17:44
          
          
            been called to Rome to perform.
          
                  
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            And so in these daily meetings of cardinals,
          
                  
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            where they're meeting every morning, called the general
          
                  
            17:52
          
          
            congregation meeting, some of that is procedural, but
          
                  
            17:55
          
          
            some of it allows cardinals the opportunity to
          
                  
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            talk to one another about what they see
          
                  
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            as the issues facing the Church, to sort
          
                  
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            through where the Church stands and where these
          
                  
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            cardinals believe it needs to go.
          
                  
            18:06
          
          
            Specifically at this time right now, what are
          
                  
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            some of the considerations the cardinals will be
          
                  
            18:10
          
          
            thinking about?
          
                  
            18:11
          
          
            I think fundamentally, the issue that's facing every
          
                  
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            conclave is do you want to keep going
          
                  
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            in terms of the papacy that just ended,
          
                  
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            or do you want to try something else?
          
                  
            18:22
          
          
            But beyond that, there is a complicated sort
          
                  
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            of bushel basket full of issues they'll be
          
                  
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            looking at.
          
                  
            18:30
          
          
            Bushel basket full?
          
                  
            18:33
          
          
            That's an odd way of putting it.
          
                  
            18:37
          
          
            A bushel basket full.
          
                  
            18:40
          
          
            Sort of bushel basket full of issues they'll
          
                  
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            be looking at from geopolitics, where we're entering
          
                  
            18:47
          
          
            an era where old alliances seem to be
          
                  
            18:49
          
          
            falling apart and new ones are coming into
          
                  
            18:51
          
          
            view, and they'll want somebody who can steer
          
                  
            18:54
          
          
            the Church safely through those storms, to internal
          
                  
            18:58
          
          
            Church debates over contentious matters such as women
          
                  
            19:02
          
          
            and outreach to the LGBTQ plus community, to
          
                  
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            more broad social concerns such as migration and
          
                  
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            climate change and poverty relief.
          
                  
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            All papal things.
          
                  
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            Climate change.
          
                  
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            PBS.
          
                  
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            That's another offensive thing.
          
                  
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            PBS, the papal broadcast system.
          
                  
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            So, now that there's a kind of a
          
                  
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            kicker in the second part, I thought this
          
                  
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            second clip is quite entertaining.
          
                  
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            It talks about peace in Ukraine dominating the
          
                  
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            diplomatic agenda.
          
                  
            19:34
          
          
            No, you're not playing anal too.
          
                  
            19:37
          
          
            Oh, I'm sorry.
          
                  
            19:38
          
          
            You're right.
          
                  
            19:39
          
          
            The viewership of the movie Conclave spiked after
          
                  
            19:42
          
          
            the news of Pope Francis' death.
          
                  
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            I think a lot of people think because
          
                  
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            they've seen the movie, they know what a
          
                  
            19:46
          
          
            conclave is.
          
                  
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            You've written a book about conclaves.
          
                  
            19:49
          
          
            How close is it to what actually happens?
          
                  
            19:52
          
          
            I've been telling people that taking the movie
          
                  
            19:55
          
          
            Conclave as a guide to a real papal
          
                  
            19:57
          
          
            election is like taking that zany 80s Mel
          
                  
            20:01
          
          
            Brooks comedy Spaceballs as a guide to real
          
                  
            20:04
          
          
            space travel.
          
                  
            20:04
          
          
            This is old world politics where everything is
          
                  
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            far more genteel and indirect and subtle.
          
                  
            20:11
          
          
            Now, don't get me wrong, and let's not
          
                  
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            be naive.
          
                  
            20:14
          
          
            There is real political sausage being ground during
          
                  
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            this period.
          
                  
            20:17
          
          
            But this isn't the Iowa caucus.
          
                  
            20:20
          
          
            This is politics Vatican style.
          
                  
            20:23
          
          
            How do they know that more people are
          
                  
            20:24
          
          
            watching that?
          
                  
            20:25
          
          
            No one divulges any numbers.
          
                  
            20:30
          
          
            I don't know.
          
                  
            20:31
          
          
            I just thought the Spaceballs comment was funny.
          
                  
            20:34
          
          
            It's just lame.
          
                  
            20:36
          
          
            Oh, please.
          
                  
            20:36
          
          
            It was a good comment about the movie.
          
                  
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            Of course, I didn't see the movie, so
          
                  
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            I don't know.
          
                  
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            You didn't see the movie, so you have
          
                  
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            no idea.
          
                  
            20:45
          
          
            I do know the guy at the end
          
                  
            20:46
          
          
            of the movie the pope they picked as
          
                  
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            a hermaphrodite.
          
                  
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            Well, not entirely, but yeah, close enough.
          
                  
            20:53
          
          
            You saw it?
          
                  
            20:53
          
          
            Yeah, I saw it.
          
                  
            20:54
          
          
            We discussed it.
          
                  
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            Yes, I saw the movie.
          
                  
            20:59
          
          
            I thought it was a hermaphrodite.
          
                  
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            No, not a hermaphrodite, but had some kind
          
                  
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            of like appendix appendicitis, and the doctors went
          
                  
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            in and found that the then ultimately chosen
          
                  
            21:16
          
          
            pope had ovaries.
          
                  
            21:22
          
          
            So the pope had ovaries and a dick.
          
                  
            21:25
          
          
            That is the implication.
          
                  
            21:27
          
          
            But that's a hermaphrodite.
          
                  
            21:28
          
          
            I thought the hermaphrodite means you have both
          
                  
            21:30
          
          
            sex organs as well.
          
                  
            21:34
          
          
            It wasn't clear from the movie, and that
          
                  
            21:36
          
          
            was, quite frankly, a disappointment.
          
                  
            21:41
          
          
            It seems like a long way.
          
                  
            21:43
          
          
            The movie sounds like a shaggy dog story.
          
                  
            21:46
          
          
            No, it's like they literally inserted that nonsense
          
                  
            21:48
          
          
            at the end for no good reason.
          
                  
            21:50
          
          
            It was like the big it was almost
          
                  
            21:52
          
          
            like Madame Butterfly.
          
                  
            21:54
          
          
            Oh, it's a girl!
          
                  
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            Or boy.
          
                  
            21:57
          
          
            Whatever it was.
          
                  
            21:58
          
          
            It's a boy.
          
                  
            21:59
          
          
            It wasn't a girl, it's a boy.
          
                  
            22:01
          
          
            Yeah, it was just like, eh.
          
                  
            22:03
          
          
            It was completely unnecessary for the rest of
          
                  
            22:05
          
          
            the movie.
          
                  
            22:06
          
          
            Really?
          
                  
            22:07
          
          
            So they didn't need a punchline at all?
          
                  
            22:09
          
          
            I don't think they needed a punchline.
          
                  
            22:10
          
          
            Certainly not that one.
          
                  
            22:12
          
          
            It made no sense.
          
                  
            22:14
          
          
            Well, I like this baseball's analysis.
          
                  
            22:17
          
          
            There's a third clip here which is misspelled
          
                  
            22:20
          
          
            paper.
          
                  
            22:20
          
          
            I got two Ps on it.
          
                  
            22:22
          
          
            Do cardinals go into the conclave with a
          
                  
            22:25
          
          
            candidate in mind or a group of candidates,
          
                  
            22:28
          
          
            likely candidates in mind?
          
                  
            22:29
          
          
            Often cardinals do file into the Sistine Chapel
          
                  
            22:33
          
          
            with a fairly strong sense for whom they
          
                  
            22:35
          
          
            intend to cast their vote.
          
                  
            22:37
          
          
            I mean, bear in mind, the last two
          
                  
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            conclaves, that is, the conclave of 2005 that
          
                  
            22:42
          
          
            elected Pope Benedict XVI and the conclave of
          
                  
            22:46
          
          
            2013 that elected Pope Francis, both of those
          
                  
            22:49
          
          
            were over in about a day and a
          
                  
            22:50
          
          
            half.
          
                  
            22:51
          
          
            Now, that would be completely impossible if it
          
                  
            22:54
          
          
            weren't for the fact that a number of
          
                  
            22:56
          
          
            cardinals had made up their minds before they
          
                  
            23:00
          
          
            actually went into the Sistine Chapel about which
          
                  
            23:03
          
          
            way they wanted to go.
          
                  
            23:05
          
          
            I know you said this isn't the Iowa
          
                  
            23:06
          
          
            caucuses, but is it possible to handicap the
          
                  
            23:09
          
          
            potential popes, the likely people who could be
          
                  
            23:12
          
          
            pope?
          
                  
            23:13
          
          
            Well, you know, there's an old Roman saying
          
                  
            23:15
          
          
            that he who enters a conclave as a
          
                  
            23:17
          
          
            pope exits as a cardinal, meaning sometimes getting
          
                  
            23:21
          
          
            that kind of talk does you more harm
          
                  
            23:23
          
          
            than good, but that said, we can look
          
                  
            23:25
          
          
            at the reputations cardinals have held over the
          
                  
            23:28
          
          
            years, the significance of the positions, that is,
          
                  
            23:31
          
          
            the jobs that they have held.
          
                  
            23:33
          
          
            One odds-on favorite, and somebody who certainly
          
                  
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            will get a very serious look, would be
          
                  
            23:39
          
          
            Italian Cardinal Pietro Paterlain, who was the Secretary
          
                  
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            of State, that is, the top aide and
          
                  
            23:44
          
          
            the top diplomat under Pope Francis, who would
          
                  
            23:47
          
          
            be seen as somebody who would, in some
          
                  
            23:49
          
          
            ways, carry forward the Francis legacy, but is
          
                  
            23:52
          
          
            an extraordinarily stable, careful, measured man, and given
          
                  
            23:57
          
          
            what's happening in the world, that's a prescription
          
                  
            23:59
          
          
            I think a number of cardinals might find
          
                  
            24:01
          
          
            attractive.
          
                  
            24:03
          
          
            Yeah, they're supposed to listen to the Holy
          
                  
            24:05
          
          
            Spirit, they're not supposed to be politicking.
          
                  
            24:10
          
          
            Well, the funny thing is the irony of
          
                  
            24:12
          
          
            that guy's last comments was that if you
          
                  
            24:15
          
          
            enter as the Pope, which he now just
          
                  
            24:18
          
          
            named somebody who entered as the Pope, Pietro
          
                  
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            guy, who I thought would be the guy
          
                  
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            I picked, would not make it, and so
          
                  
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            the same would hold true for the Seurat
          
                  
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            guy that you picked, because he's getting a
          
                  
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            lot of ink For a whole bunch of
          
                  
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            reasons, I got a lot of emails about
          
                  
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            my Pope pick, but everyone would be very
          
                  
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            happy, which, you know, makes me wonder.
          
                  
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            But that's my pick, I'm standing by it,
          
                  
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            that's what I gotta do.
          
                  
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            Yeah, I think your pick is a great
          
                  
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            pick, to be honest about it, and he's
          
                  
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            old, he's not going to be there forever,
          
                  
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            so he's got, oh, he got the black
          
                  
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            guy in, he won't be here for long.
          
                  
            25:05
          
          
            I mean, they won't even let Cardinals under
          
                  
            25:07
          
          
            80 vote for the Pope, and this guy's
          
                  
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            80.
          
                  
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            No, no, up to 80, as far as,
          
                  
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            you can't, not over 80s, I don't think
          
                  
            25:15
          
          
            you can vote if you're 80 and older.
          
                  
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            No, that's what I meant, you can't, when
          
                  
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            you're 80 and older, you can't vote for
          
                  
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            the Pope.
          
                  
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            So how can you be the Pope?
          
                  
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            It makes no sense.
          
                  
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            And I've heard this guy talk admittedly only
          
                  
            25:29
          
          
            in French, oh man, he's another one of
          
                  
            25:31
          
          
            these, or a little, a little, he doesn't,
          
                  
            25:36
          
          
            how about a Pope with a clear voice?
          
                  
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            I think that Saraguy is a, or Seurat,
          
                  
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            I think he speaks about four languages, I
          
                  
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            think he speaks Italian, French, English, French, Italian,
          
                  
            25:49
          
          
            and Papal.
          
                  
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            Latin?
          
                  
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            I don't know.
          
                  
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            Three or four.
          
                  
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            Fluently.
          
                  
            25:57
          
          
            We'll see.
          
                  
            25:58
          
          
            All eyes are on Vatican now now we
          
                  
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            go into the the big smoke thing I'm
          
                  
            26:05
          
          
            gonna be waiting for the smoke the smoke
          
                  
            26:08
          
          
            the smoke yeah it's good branding though when
          
                  
            26:10
          
          
            you think about it those guys they know
          
                  
            26:12
          
          
            how to brand themselves you know you burning
          
                  
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            up the the lots and then mixing it
          
                  
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            with the chemical to be black or white
          
                  
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            smoke I mean that that's that's pretty awesome
          
                  
            26:23
          
          
            yeah I had a meme about it on
          
                  
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            the in a newsletter you probably missed it
          
                  
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            I did I'm sorry I was out I
          
                  
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            had to never change now did you send
          
                  
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            another newsletter did you send a yeah I
          
                  
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            sent a second note because we only had
          
                  
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            because things had fallen off the cliff and
          
                  
            26:38
          
          
            so I had to send out the emergency
          
                  
            26:40
          
          
            plane text uh did the would you get
          
                  
            26:43
          
          
            stuff get trapped in the in the in
          
                  
            26:46
          
          
            the in the spans I don't think it
          
                  
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            might have been a little bit but I
          
                  
            26:49
          
          
            don't think that was the cause I think
          
                  
            26:51
          
          
            it was just a lull hmm April it's
          
                  
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            always April um there were a couple of
          
                  
            26:57
          
          
            interesting terms in this uh ABC report is
          
                  
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            from your girl Martha Raddatz or what do
          
                  
            27:05
          
          
            we call now Radnitz Martha Radnitz this is
          
                  
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            uh the continuation because oh lord we need
          
                  
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            to continue with signal gate but listen to
          
                  
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            these terms we're gonna get the latest now
          
                  
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            on the controversy surrounding defense secretary Pete Hegseth
          
                  
            27:20
          
          
            new security questions raised from his use of
          
                  
            27:22
          
          
            a commercial messaging app for sensitive commercial messaging
          
                  
            27:26
          
          
            app signal is a non-profit first of
          
                  
            27:31
          
          
            all I just and it comes back a
          
                  
            27:33
          
          
            couple times the commercial I've heard this too
          
                  
            27:36
          
          
            I've heard this comment too they use that
          
                  
            27:38
          
          
            term yeah which is specifically what they want
          
                  
            27:40
          
          
            what they're trying to imply is that this
          
                  
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            is some off-the-shelf bonehead product that
          
                  
            27:47
          
          
            anyone can pick up and as opposed to
          
                  
            27:49
          
          
            a secretive government system that can only be
          
                  
            27:51
          
          
            used by you know spies and spooks by
          
                  
            27:54
          
          
            Rocky and Bullwinkle yeah security questions raised from
          
                  
            27:57
          
          
            his use of a commercial messaging app for
          
                  
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            sensitive national security communication chief global affairs anchor
          
                  
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            Martha Raddatz tracking that story good morning Martha
          
                  
            28:04
          
          
            hello good morning George this morning more alarming
          
                  
            28:07
          
          
            news out of the pentagon sources tell ABC
          
                  
            28:09
          
          
            that defense secretary Pete Hegseth accused the then
          
                  
            28:13
          
          
            acting chairman of the Joint Chiefs Admiral Chris
          
                  
            28:15
          
          
            Grady of leaking information to the press the
          
                  
            28:19
          
          
            sources say Hegseth was shouting at Admiral Grady
          
                  
            28:22
          
          
            after a story appeared about Elon Musk's possible
          
                  
            28:25
          
          
            top secret briefing by the Joint Chiefs on
          
                  
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            China the Wall Street Journal first to report
          
                  
            28:30
          
          
            that Hegseth demanded proof from Admiral Grady that
          
                  
            28:34
          
          
            he didn't leak the story yelling I'll hook
          
                  
            28:37
          
          
            you up to a expletive polygraph and this
          
                  
            28:40
          
          
            morning Hegseth's press spokesman denying that the defense
          
                  
            28:43
          
          
            secretary had the commercial app signal on a
          
                  
            28:45
          
          
            personal computer inside his pentagon office sources told
          
                  
            28:50
          
          
            ABC that the computer hold on a second
          
                  
            28:51
          
          
            hold on a second now this was the
          
                  
            28:55
          
          
            the last report we got was it was
          
                  
            28:58
          
          
            on his personal phone now she's saying he
          
                  
            29:03
          
          
            was running signal the commercial app on his
          
                  
            29:06
          
          
            computer inside the pentagon yeah this has been
          
                  
            29:09
          
          
            a change in uh in narrative that's a
          
                  
            29:12
          
          
            big change the narrative's been changed there's a
          
                  
            29:14
          
          
            couple of things and they also left out
          
                  
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            the fact that according to uh the guy
          
                  
            29:18
          
          
            who's the uh chief uh national security advisor
          
                  
            29:23
          
          
            for trump um it was a spook was
          
                  
            29:28
          
          
            told by the CIA this is the the
          
                  
            29:30
          
          
            product to use this is the one to
          
                  
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            use yeah and so he was using on
          
                  
            29:33
          
          
            his computer now you can use signal on
          
                  
            29:35
          
          
            your computer sure but this looks like me
          
                  
            29:38
          
          
            and my text messaging i do everything on
          
                  
            29:40
          
          
            the computer use google voice texting because i
          
                  
            29:43
          
          
            can type away i don't have to poke
          
                  
            29:45
          
          
            away my thumbs and get you know you
          
                  
            29:48
          
          
            don't have to extract your phone from your
          
                  
            29:49
          
          
            drawer let's be honest that's so right denying
          
                  
            29:54
          
          
            that the defense secretary had the commercial app
          
                  
            29:56
          
          
            signal on a personal computer inside his pentagon
          
                  
            29:59
          
          
            office sources told abc that the computer was
          
                  
            30:02
          
          
            connected to an unsecured commercial line what is
          
                  
            30:06
          
          
            known as a dirty line since it does
          
                  
            30:08
          
          
            not have a dirty line yes this entire
          
                  
            30:13
          
          
            show operates on a dirty line firewall protection
          
                  
            30:16
          
          
            oh whoa whoa whoa whoa hold on a
          
                  
            30:19
          
          
            second let me hear that again commercial line
          
                  
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            what is known as a dirty line since
          
                  
            30:23
          
          
            it does not have firewall protection all this
          
                  
            30:26
          
          
            firewall protection that's kind of skipping along uh
          
                  
            30:30
          
          
            okay as we've learned this morning from sources
          
                  
            30:34
          
          
            that hegseth's chief of staff has now departed
          
                  
            30:37
          
          
            the pentagon joe casper will now take on
          
                  
            30:40
          
          
            a part-time advisory role in the government
          
                  
            30:43
          
          
            we are told casper's departure follows the dismissal
          
                  
            30:46
          
          
            of top aides to hegseth those aides were
          
                  
            30:50
          
          
            escorted out of the building by security george
          
                  
            30:52
          
          
            and so now now comes another piece of
          
                  
            30:56
          
          
            information it sounds like pete hegseth is taking
          
                  
            30:59
          
          
            a page out of the john c dvorak
          
                  
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            handbook yeah real exodus there meantime the new
          
                  
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            york group of times reported just moments ago
          
                  
            31:05
          
          
            that these phone numbers well it's not an
          
                  
            31:07
          
          
            exodus if you're kicked out the real exodus
          
                  
            31:10
          
          
            there they're not leaving on their own accord
          
                  
            31:13
          
          
            they're they're being kicked out no i think
          
                  
            31:17
          
          
            one of them quit okay well then it's
          
                  
            31:19
          
          
            not a real exodus yeah real exodus there
          
                  
            31:21
          
          
            meantime the new york group of times reported
          
                  
            31:23
          
          
            just moments ago and he used the exodus
          
                  
            31:25
          
          
            yeah in exodus is it three or four
          
                  
            31:27
          
          
            guys in exit with 245 people left walked
          
                  
            31:32
          
          
            out the same day i would call that
          
                  
            31:34
          
          
            an exodus yes yeah real exodus there meantime
          
                  
            31:36
          
          
            the new york times reported just moments ago
          
                  
            31:38
          
          
            that these phone numbers that uh hegseth was
          
                  
            31:41
          
          
            using were actually available online oh oh like
          
                  
            31:45
          
          
            google phone he had a google phone number
          
                  
            31:46
          
          
            like you john google just found online yeah
          
                  
            31:49
          
          
            george you know any personal phone is vulnerable
          
                  
            31:52
          
          
            especially if you are the defense secretary foreign
          
                  
            31:56
          
          
            adversaries would like those numbers and those numbers
          
                  
            31:59
          
          
            are pretty easy to find and hegseth had
          
                  
            32:02
          
          
            highly sensitive information on his phone in those
          
                  
            32:05
          
          
            signal chats hold on a second yeah so
          
                  
            32:09
          
          
            i have your phone number yeah and you
          
                  
            32:12
          
          
            have highly sensitive information on your phone yeah
          
                  
            32:15
          
          
            what do i do call you up and
          
                  
            32:17
          
          
            say hey hey push that let me walk
          
                  
            32:19
          
          
            you through some process here so you can
          
                  
            32:21
          
          
            send me all that information i mean what
          
                  
            32:23
          
          
            does that got to do with anything you
          
                  
            32:24
          
          
            got his phone number of so what yeah
          
                  
            32:29
          
          
            well if you're huawei you're in the system
          
                  
            32:32
          
          
            four and a half if you're huawei this
          
                  
            32:34
          
          
            is true you could probably this might be
          
                  
            32:36
          
          
            a back door into the phone that if
          
                  
            32:38
          
          
            you have the number you need the number
          
                  
            32:40
          
          
            to get into the back door or if
          
                  
            32:41
          
          
            you or if you have the database that
          
                  
            32:43
          
          
            the nsa maintains and you need to just
          
                  
            32:45
          
          
            give them the number and they cough back
          
                  
            32:49
          
          
            every message you've ever done or received that's
          
                  
            32:53
          
          
            different i think what we can conclude is
          
                  
            32:55
          
          
            that this reporting is very flimsy they're using
          
                  
            32:59
          
          
            all kinds of adjectives to try and hype
          
                  
            33:02
          
          
            it up with commercial app and dirty phone
          
                  
            33:04
          
          
            line and found the numbers online this is
          
                  
            33:07
          
          
            just exactly what it was always intended to
          
                  
            33:10
          
          
            be is some form of railroading for the
          
                  
            33:13
          
          
            military industrial complex or the neocons or whoever
          
                  
            33:17
          
          
            wants hegseth out foreign adversaries would like those
          
                  
            33:20
          
          
            numbers and those numbers are pretty easy to
          
                  
            33:23
          
          
            find hey pete can i have your digits
          
                  
            33:25
          
          
            and hegseth had highly sensitive information on his
          
                  
            33:28
          
          
            phone in those signal chats about the attack
          
                  
            33:31
          
          
            plans in yemen highly sensitive okay well there
          
                  
            33:34
          
          
            you go martha raddatz on the beat everybody
          
                  
            33:37
          
          
            the world is safe abc's got issues yeah
          
                  
            33:44
          
          
            i think they're more compromised than cbs yeah
          
                  
            33:47
          
          
            i was trying to clip some of the
          
                  
            33:49
          
          
            latest on the media from npr your buddy
          
                  
            33:53
          
          
            yeah yeah it's it was very difficult because
          
                  
            33:56
          
          
            they're just talking about how um brendan carr
          
                  
            33:59
          
          
            the new fcc commissioner how he's going after
          
                  
            34:02
          
          
            them and i think is it uh nbc
          
                  
            34:04
          
          
            has a 20 billion dollar lawsuit against it
          
                  
            34:08
          
          
            and or cbs from trump 20 billion dollar
          
                  
            34:13
          
          
            lawsuit yeah that's been going that's ongoing i
          
                  
            34:16
          
          
            know and like and we're also in an
          
                  
            34:18
          
          
            investigation this is the problem with the report
          
                  
            34:21
          
          
            we're under investigation because uh the fcc believes
          
                  
            34:25
          
          
            that we're we don't have underwriting we have
          
                  
            34:27
          
          
            we're doing commercial messages and then they they
          
                  
            34:30
          
          
            went on to have no examples or even
          
                  
            34:32
          
          
            explain what the difference is it was very
          
                  
            34:34
          
          
            disappointing i was ready to clip a whole
          
                  
            34:36
          
          
            bunch but it just didn't happen anyway so
          
                  
            34:41
          
          
            well yeah the hegseth is under fire and
          
                  
            34:45
          
          
            he's i don't think he's handling it well
          
                  
            34:46
          
          
            no he should be more glib and less
          
                  
            34:49
          
          
            angry yes so um we don't know exactly
          
                  
            34:56
          
          
            what was discussed uh we had the president
          
                  
            35:00
          
          
            meeting with zelensky which was kind of a
          
                  
            35:03
          
          
            cool move where you had that huge room
          
                  
            35:06
          
          
            i presume somewhere in vatican city and they
          
                  
            35:08
          
          
            put two chairs right in the middle and
          
                  
            35:10
          
          
            there's uh zelensky's hanging out with macron and
          
                  
            35:14
          
          
            you know he's doing his little uh tete
          
                  
            35:16
          
          
            -a-tete and then trump comes in they
          
                  
            35:18
          
          
            sit down and i guess i have some
          
                  
            35:20
          
          
            analysis of this well i'll play the news
          
                  
            35:22
          
          
            report first president trump meeting face to face
          
                  
            35:24
          
          
            with ukrainian president zelensky saturday at saint peter's
          
                  
            35:28
          
          
            basilica the two discussing a ceasefire deal zelensky
          
                  
            35:31
          
          
            sounding confident after the meeting posting he's hoping
          
                  
            35:34
          
          
            for results and ultimately a full and unconditional
          
                  
            35:37
          
          
            ceasefire after the meeting president trump strongly rebuking
          
                  
            35:40
          
          
            president putin on true social accusing russia's leader
          
                  
            35:43
          
          
            of tapping him along and saying quote maybe
          
                  
            35:46
          
          
            he doesn't want to stop the war adding
          
                  
            35:48
          
          
            if the missile attacks continue on ukraine he
          
                  
            35:51
          
          
            may be forced to impose sanctions on russia
          
                  
            35:53
          
          
            the growing frustration from the president comes after
          
                  
            35:56
          
          
            his special envoy steve witkoff and russian president
          
                  
            35:59
          
          
            vladimir putin met face to face for the
          
                  
            36:01
          
          
            second time friday the meeting lasting three hours
          
                  
            36:04
          
          
            and being called constructive and a step in
          
                  
            36:06
          
          
            the right direction but so far neither side
          
                  
            36:09
          
          
            has agreed to a ceasefire and president trump
          
                  
            36:11
          
          
            saying this friday about a deadline i have
          
                  
            36:13
          
          
            my own deadline and we want it to
          
                  
            36:16
          
          
            be fast and the prime minister is helping
          
                  
            36:18
          
          
            us he wants it to be fast too
          
                  
            36:20
          
          
            so we have a deadline and after that
          
                  
            36:23
          
          
            we have a we're gonna have a very
          
                  
            36:25
          
          
            much different attitude yeah he has his own
          
                  
            36:27
          
          
            deadline he's got his own deadline he's got
          
                  
            36:30
          
          
            so she dropped the tapping along also yes
          
                  
            36:33
          
          
            comment this is actually what do you call
          
                  
            36:34
          
          
            that when something does not show up in
          
                  
            36:36
          
          
            google we had a word for that back
          
                  
            36:38
          
          
            in the day what's that word google wash
          
                  
            36:42
          
          
            was no no no not google wash no
          
                  
            36:44
          
          
            if it doesn't show up in google then
          
                  
            36:46
          
          
            it has a term that doesn't happen very
          
                  
            36:49
          
          
            often but this tapping along is one of
          
                  
            36:51
          
          
            those phrases it does google nothing no search
          
                  
            36:54
          
          
            engine knows about it that's that's interesting all
          
                  
            37:01
          
          
            right your npr analysis well let's start with
          
                  
            37:05
          
          
            the uh first of all the tapping along
          
                  
            37:09
          
          
            here with the uh the trump vatican zelensky
          
                  
            37:14
          
          
            npr clip which is the kind of what
          
                  
            37:18
          
          
            you played but this is a their version
          
                  
            37:20
          
          
            president trump is back in the u.s
          
                  
            37:23
          
          
            after his very brief trip to vatican city
          
                  
            37:26
          
          
            to attend pope francis's funeral as npr's depa
          
                  
            37:30
          
          
            shivaram reports while there he met with ukraine's
          
                  
            37:33
          
          
            zelensky the meeting between trump and zelensky took
          
                  
            37:36
          
          
            place in saint peter's basilica shortly before the
          
                  
            37:38
          
          
            funeral program began the white house hasn't released
          
                  
            37:41
          
          
            any detail of the conversation between the two
          
                  
            37:44
          
          
            leaders but trump posted on his social media
          
                  
            37:46
          
          
            platform truth social and said he thinks russian
          
                  
            37:49
          
          
            leader vladimir putin might be quote tapping me
          
                  
            37:51
          
          
            along and doesn't want to end the war
          
                  
            37:53
          
          
            he was critical of russia's attacks on civilian
          
                  
            37:56
          
          
            areas and floated the idea of sanctions against
          
                  
            37:58
          
          
            russia but provided no further detail trump is
          
                  
            38:01
          
          
            spending the rest of the weekend at his
          
                  
            38:03
          
          
            golf club in bedminster new jersey depa shivaram
          
                  
            38:06
          
          
            npr news okay that's pretty straightforward they get
          
                  
            38:11
          
          
            tapping along comes up again and it's straightforward
          
                  
            38:14
          
          
            they don't talk about you know big applause
          
                  
            38:16
          
          
            for zelensky and booed trump and so now
          
                  
            38:20
          
          
            we go to an analysis uh and they
          
                  
            38:22
          
          
            bring in this guy mcfall you see if
          
                  
            38:25
          
          
            you see this guy he's got this dour
          
                  
            38:27
          
          
            quality to him he used to be an
          
                  
            38:29
          
          
            ambassador i think is a spook uh he
          
                  
            38:32
          
          
            um trump hater to the core and so
          
                  
            38:37
          
          
            you're gonna so he's gonna be biased and
          
                  
            38:39
          
          
            he's gonna see nothing good going on but
          
                  
            38:41
          
          
            everything that trump did that he thought was
          
                  
            38:43
          
          
            positive he does say but it's all you
          
                  
            38:46
          
          
            know kind of neoliberal crap but here we
          
                  
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            go president trump met with ukraine's president vladimir
          
                  
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            zelensky at the vatican this morning a photo
          
                  
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            shows the two leaders sitting face to face
          
                  
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            huddled together in seemingly deep conversation on the
          
                  
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            sidelines of pope francis's funeral the white house
          
                  
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            says the two had quote a very productive
          
                  
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            discussion and on social media earlier today president
          
                  
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            trump criticized his russian counterpart writing quote there
          
                  
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            was no reason for putin to be shooting
          
                  
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            missiles into civilian areas it makes me think
          
                  
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            that maybe he doesn't want to stop the
          
                  
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            war he's just tapping me along this all
          
                  
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            comes a day after u.s envoy steve
          
                  
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            witkoff met with president putin in moscow to
          
                  
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            discuss a possible end to the war in
          
                  
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            ukraine here to talk about what all of
          
                  
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            this high-level diplomacy means is michael mcfall
          
                  
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            he served as the former u.s ambassador
          
                  
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            to russia during the obama administration and is
          
                  
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            currently the director of the freeman spogli institute
          
                  
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            for international studies at stanford university welcome thanks
          
                  
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            for having me let's start with this meeting
          
                  
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            what do you make of the meeting what
          
                  
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            do you make of the fact that afterward
          
                  
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            trump posted on social media criticizing vladimir putin
          
                  
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            not vladimir zelensky well i'm glad they had
          
                  
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            the meeting anytime they can meet especially one
          
                  
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            -on-one without cameras without staff that's always
          
                  
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            a good thing without cameras president zelensky gets
          
                  
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            to explain his position directly to president trump
          
                  
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            the reaction from president zelensky on social media
          
                  
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            was very positive and other staff people have
          
                  
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            said positive things and as you just noted
          
                  
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            president trump also did criticize putin he suggested
          
                  
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            that maybe he's not serious about peace and
          
                  
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            that there should be sanctions and that's in
          
                  
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            my view a correct assessment of where putin
          
                  
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            has been so far and that would be
          
                  
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            a correct prescription to try to put pressure
          
                  
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            on russia something president trump and his team
          
                  
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            have never done yeah even bolton came out
          
                  
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            and went oh this is good this is
          
                  
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            good whenever these guys are all on the
          
                  
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            same side they're all putin haters trump haters
          
                  
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            and so when trump looks like he's standing
          
                  
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            up to putin this is great yeah and
          
                  
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            if he got closer and like started threatening
          
                  
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            a war it'd be even greater and if
          
                  
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            we bombed iran that would be fabulous these
          
                  
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            guys would be all over themselves all over
          
                  
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            yeah nice yeah all right onward sorry but
          
                  
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            i'd also point out that president trump sounds
          
                  
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            always tough on social media and says a
          
                  
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            lot of things rhetorically and very rarely follows
          
                  
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            up with concrete actions when we're talking about
          
                  
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            pressure on putin pressure on russia trump said
          
                  
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            yesterday he thinks ukraine and russia are close
          
                  
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            how do you read that what do you
          
                  
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            think is happening in the coming weeks do
          
                  
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            you think this war could end i'm not
          
                  
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            sure i worry that putin is not serious
          
                  
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            about ending this war i think putin thinks
          
                  
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            time's on his side trump and his team
          
                  
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            will eventually get frustrated and walk away they'll
          
                  
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            cut military assistance to ukraine and that's all
          
                  
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            in putin's favor for continuing the war and
          
                  
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            to try to conquer the territory on the
          
                  
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            ground that he is already annexed uh on
          
                  
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            paper uh you buy a map in russia
          
                  
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            today and it has four of those regions
          
                  
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            of ukraine as part of the russian federation
          
                  
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            curious what your best realistic read is right
          
                  
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            now and not what you would like to
          
                  
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            see but what you think is realistic well
          
                  
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            i would disconnect two different things that get
          
                  
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            conflated there's a cease-fire and then there's
          
                  
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            a permanent peace agreement to end the war
          
                  
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            and i think those are two very different
          
                  
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            things i think most immediately getting a cease
          
                  
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            -fire uh and even if it has to
          
                  
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            be a minimum one getting a cease-fire
          
                  
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            that both sides say we are not going
          
                  
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            to attack civilian targets that would be a
          
                  
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            great achievement for the ukrainians remember putin constantly
          
                  
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            every day and just a few days ago
          
                  
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            again in their capital of is attacking civilian
          
                  
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            targets i call that terrorism uh that would
          
                  
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            be great to end and then that moment
          
                  
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            if you got to a cease-fire could
          
                  
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            create the permissive conditions for a longer negotiation
          
                  
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            that i think could go on for months
          
                  
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            if not years about some permanent peace settlement
          
                  
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            and i'm not optimistic they would ever get
          
                  
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            it but at least the war would stop
          
                  
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            without forcing zelensky to acknowledge annexation and i
          
                  
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            think tragically that's probably the best outcome uh
          
                  
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            google whack that was the term i never
          
                  
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            i don't recall that term yes google whack
          
                  
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            it's a google whack tapping along is not
          
                  
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            found in a google search it is a
          
                  
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            google whack so okay so we have all
          
                  
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            that taking place but meanwhile the president is
          
                  
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            definitely saying that it appears like there are
          
                  
            43:34
          
          
            already some terms that have been negotiated particularly
          
                  
            43:36
          
          
            when it comes to crimea steve witkoff president
          
                  
            43:39
          
          
            trump's special envoy met with russian president vladimir
          
                  
            43:42
          
          
            putin friday for a fourth time to discuss
          
                  
            43:45
          
          
            a peace deal with ukraine russia and ukraine
          
                  
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            i think they're coming along we hope very
          
                  
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            fragile the president said he's not placing a
          
                  
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            deadline on the talks but wants to get
          
                  
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            something done as quickly as possible we're going
          
                  
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            to try and get out of war so
          
                  
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            that we can save 5 000 people a
          
                  
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            week i think i think we're pretty close
          
                  
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            russia's foreign minister sergey lavrov told cbs news
          
                  
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            faced the nation moderator margaret brennan he agreed
          
                  
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            with trump's assessment that talks are moving in
          
                  
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            the right direction but wouldn't discuss details we
          
                  
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            are really polite people and unlike some others
          
                  
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            we never discuss in public what is being
          
                  
            44:22
          
          
            discussed in negotiations otherwise negotiations are not serious
          
                  
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            no a major sticking point in negotiations is
          
                  
            44:29
          
          
            crimea seized by russia in 2014 in a
          
                  
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            new interview with time magazine president trump said
          
                  
            44:36
          
          
            crimea will stay with russia but ukrainian president
          
                  
            44:39
          
          
            vladimir zalinsky says he cannot accept that because
          
                  
            44:42
          
          
            it goes against his country's constitution both president
          
                  
            44:47
          
          
            zalinsky and trump will be in rome for
          
                  
            44:49
          
          
            the pope's funeral on saturday where the president
          
                  
            44:51
          
          
            says it's possible that they'll talk oh so
          
                  
            44:55
          
          
            now all of us it's like zalinsky they
          
                  
            44:58
          
          
            just keep telling him no just keep keep
          
                  
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            it going whatever they want just say no
          
                  
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            i can't do that i can't have elections
          
                  
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            because that's uh unconstitutional but i can't give
          
                  
            45:06
          
          
            up crimea because that goes against our constitution
          
                  
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            there there is no uh they have no
          
                  
            45:15
          
          
            intention of a truce i don't see it
          
                  
            45:20
          
          
            i really don't see that we're getting accurate
          
                  
            45:22
          
          
            information well that's what i don't see now
          
                  
            45:25
          
          
            like a good businessman running our country president
          
                  
            45:29
          
          
            trump has put a hedge in place and
          
                  
            45:32
          
          
            he sent little marco down to africa or
          
                  
            45:34
          
          
            over to africa to take care of the
          
                  
            45:36
          
          
            deal the democratic republic of congo and rwanda
          
                  
            45:40
          
          
            have signed what they're calling a pathway to
          
                  
            45:43
          
          
            peace in a u.s brokered agreement as
          
                  
            45:47
          
          
            the rwanda-backed m23 keep up gaining ground
          
                  
            45:50
          
          
            the congo found it crucial to accept the
          
                  
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            offer made by the u.s a necessary
          
                  
            45:56
          
          
            step towards peace taken with resolve and purpose
          
                  
            45:59
          
          
            this moment carries particular weight for the democratic
          
                  
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            republic of the congo in goma in bukavu
          
                  
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            and beyond the declaration of principles rwanda says
          
                  
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            opens the door to a definitive deal our
          
                  
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            common aim is to conclude a comprehensive peace
          
                  
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            agreement as soon as possible but there are
          
                  
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            no shortcuts or quick fixes and we have
          
                  
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            to do the hard work to get it
          
                  
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            done right once and for all the long
          
                  
            46:28
          
          
            simmering tensions between the two neighboring countries have
          
                  
            46:33
          
          
            led to one of the world's largest humanitarian
          
                  
            46:36
          
          
            crisis yet the diplomatic breakthrough the u.s
          
                  
            46:40
          
          
            have facilitated is no accident trump's administration is
          
                  
            46:45
          
          
            in talks with kinshasa to invest billions of
          
                  
            46:48
          
          
            dollars in minerals drc is the world's largest
          
                  
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            producer of and has vast deposits such as
          
                  
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            gold and copper i think we're looking at
          
                  
            47:02
          
          
            some rare earths coming from the drc you
          
                  
            47:05
          
          
            know we can talk about rare earths coming
          
                  
            47:08
          
          
            from here and there all we want but
          
                  
            47:09
          
          
            the problem is and it's always ignored in
          
                  
            47:12
          
          
            these reports we can't process these rare earths
          
                  
            47:15
          
          
            that's the problem it's not that china has
          
                  
            47:17
          
          
            nothing but rare earths china has a hundred
          
                  
            47:20
          
          
            percent of the world's processing capability i thought
          
                  
            47:23
          
          
            canada had some doesn't canada have processing not
          
                  
            47:26
          
          
            that i know of all i know is
          
                  
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            that china and china we we dig up
          
                  
            47:31
          
          
            rare earths we ship it to china they
          
                  
            47:33
          
          
            process and we get it back well you
          
                  
            47:35
          
          
            don't have to get mad about it i'm
          
                  
            47:37
          
          
            mad at the fact that they keep not
          
                  
            47:39
          
          
            reporting on this okay so what we got
          
                  
            47:42
          
          
            a rare earths deal so what we can't
          
                  
            47:44
          
          
            do anything with it well what does it
          
                  
            47:46
          
          
            take to process rare earths can we start
          
                  
            47:48
          
          
            rare earth processing it does that take 100
          
                  
            47:51
          
          
            years i think i personally i don't know
          
                  
            47:54
          
          
            but i will say what i suspect okay
          
                  
            47:58
          
          
            it's a mess yeah probably it's a dangerous
          
                  
            48:02
          
          
            thing to do it's probably toxic as hell
          
                  
            48:06
          
          
            ruins everything around it it's got to be
          
                  
            48:10
          
          
            a laughable mess that's the only thing i
          
                  
            48:12
          
          
            can think of otherwise we'd be send it
          
                  
            48:15
          
          
            to canada that's i don't think canada is
          
                  
            48:18
          
          
            doing it they should start get rid of
          
                  
            48:23
          
          
            canada it's a great idea canada why don't
          
                  
            48:26
          
          
            you process this we'll drop all the all
          
                  
            48:28
          
          
            the tariffs but here's more evidence that i
          
                  
            48:32
          
          
            really don't believe that they want any kind
          
                  
            48:34
          
          
            of truce and nor do we because our
          
                  
            48:37
          
          
            boy over there our sales guy in uh
          
                  
            48:39
          
          
            in the eu we all know him margaret
          
                  
            48:42
          
          
            your buddy margaret he just keeps on harping
          
                  
            48:45
          
          
            the same thing it's got to be more
          
                  
            48:47
          
          
            money more money and for a long time
          
                  
            48:50
          
          
            the kremlin says an offensive by the ukrainian
          
                  
            48:53
          
          
            army in russia's kursk region is over that
          
                  
            48:56
          
          
            emerged in a briefing between the russian president
          
                  
            48:58
          
          
            vladimir putin and the head of russia's general
          
                  
            49:00
          
          
            staff valery garasimov who said the last occupied
          
                  
            49:03
          
          
            settlement in the region had just been recaptured
          
                  
            49:06
          
          
            the plans of the kiev regime to create
          
                  
            49:09
          
          
            a so-called strategic bridgehead and disrupt our
          
                  
            49:13
          
          
            offensive in the donbass have failed russia also
          
                  
            49:16
          
          
            confirmed for the first time that north korean
          
                  
            49:18
          
          
            soldiers have been fighting alongside russian troops in
          
                  
            49:21
          
          
            kursk the russian defense ministry released this video
          
                  
            49:24
          
          
            footage showing aerial shots and soldiers running and
          
                  
            49:27
          
          
            others issuing instructions to raise a russian flag
          
                  
            49:31
          
          
            over a village in the region ukrainian officials
          
                  
            49:36
          
          
            however say the fighting is still continuing ukraine's
          
                  
            49:39
          
          
            general staff said the statements of representatives of
          
                  
            49:41
          
          
            the high command this is the wrong clip
          
                  
            49:43
          
          
            how come you didn't stop me well i
          
                  
            49:48
          
          
            was waiting for you to cut in with
          
                  
            49:49
          
          
            your voice the wrong clip i'm sorry nato
          
                  
            49:52
          
          
            secretary general mark rutherford all 32 member nations
          
                  
            49:56
          
          
            to devote more funds equipment and political energy
          
                  
            49:59
          
          
            to the world's largest military alliance the move
          
                  
            50:02
          
          
            comes as european countries ramp up defense spending
          
                  
            50:05
          
          
            to meet the agreed upon two percent threshold
          
                  
            50:07
          
          
            ahead of the nato summit in the hagen
          
                  
            50:10
          
          
            june it also follows threats by u.s
          
                  
            50:12
          
          
            president donald trump of walking away from nato
          
                  
            50:15
          
          
            if europe does not increase defense spending to
          
                  
            50:17
          
          
            at least five percent of gdp here we
          
                  
            50:19
          
          
            go it has to be considerably higher than
          
                  
            50:21
          
          
            this famous two percent which we wanted to
          
                  
            50:25
          
          
            achieve by 2024 no it must be five
          
                  
            50:27
          
          
            we have seen the last couple of days
          
                  
            50:29
          
          
            countries like belgium and spain and italy saying
          
                  
            50:31
          
          
            we will reach the two percent in time
          
                  
            50:33
          
          
            for the summit so that's not 2024 but
          
                  
            50:35
          
          
            close close but clearly with two percent we
          
                  
            50:38
          
          
            cannot defend nato territory it has to be
          
                  
            50:40
          
          
            considerably higher and i've said before you have
          
                  
            50:42
          
          
            to understand it is not enough money we
          
                  
            50:44
          
          
            can't defend you we cannot defend nato territory
          
                  
            50:47
          
          
            without the right amount of monies it has
          
                  
            50:49
          
          
            to be considerably north of north north ruta
          
                  
            50:53
          
          
            insists the increase in spending is to ensure
          
                  
            50:55
          
          
            nato's safety and not just match the u
          
                  
            50:58
          
          
            .s he added that the alliance must be
          
                  
            51:00
          
          
            fully competent and ready to weather any storm
          
                  
            51:02
          
          
            particularly against one common threat what could that
          
                  
            51:06
          
          
            common threat be we all agree in nato
          
                  
            51:08
          
          
            that russia is the long-term threat to
          
                  
            51:11
          
          
            nato territory we all agree we all agree
          
                  
            51:14
          
          
            it is the long-term threats to nato
          
                  
            51:16
          
          
            territories uh to the whole of the um
          
                  
            51:20
          
          
            your atlantic territory there we go the comments
          
                  
            51:22
          
          
            came during a visit to washington to meet
          
                  
            51:24
          
          
            with high-ranking u.s defense officials including
          
                  
            51:27
          
          
            defense secretary pete hexad the nato boss was
          
                  
            51:30
          
          
            also questioned by reporters on the ongoing peace
          
                  
            51:32
          
          
            talks to end the war in ukraine but
          
                  
            51:34
          
          
            declined to give his opinion as to not
          
                  
            51:36
          
          
            hinder the process i think this this is
          
                  
            51:39
          
          
            all part of the forthcoming mar-a-lago
          
                  
            51:42
          
          
            accords the whole the whole if i put
          
                  
            51:46
          
          
            it all together you know with the the
          
                  
            51:48
          
          
            trillion dollar coin um economic concessions if you
          
                  
            51:53
          
          
            buy our military gear so no tariffs if
          
                  
            51:55
          
          
            you uh you know but we'll protect you
          
                  
            51:58
          
          
            as long as you know you you spend
          
                  
            52:00
          
          
            the money uh of course dollar devaluation which
          
                  
            52:03
          
          
            i think is happening uh but it's going
          
                  
            52:06
          
          
            to be the tariffs is going to be
          
                  
            52:07
          
          
            linked to the united states protecting you and
          
                  
            52:14
          
          
            then we'll have the 100-year bonds or
          
                  
            52:16
          
          
            whatever and it was actually i come up
          
                  
            52:18
          
          
            with this you didn't you have a clip
          
                  
            52:20
          
          
            on the last show from besant at the
          
                  
            52:22
          
          
            railing on the imf and the world bank
          
                  
            52:25
          
          
            about their climate change nonsense i'd have to
          
                  
            52:29
          
          
            look into clipless but i don't know i
          
                  
            52:31
          
          
            don't know specifically what clip you're talking about
          
                  
            52:33
          
          
            let's just play it again well um i
          
                  
            52:35
          
          
            i think that's what it was because i
          
                  
            52:38
          
          
            went back and i listened to uh besant
          
                  
            52:41
          
          
            talking at it's like the international finance had
          
                  
            52:45
          
          
            two besant clips gambit let me see what
          
                  
            52:47
          
          
            they were the first one was about him
          
                  
            52:49
          
          
            railing on the chinese yeah yeah and the
          
                  
            52:53
          
          
            other one was uh just a generalized not
          
                  
            52:55
          
          
            not as a strong clip well if you
          
                  
            52:58
          
          
            listen to the opening of that speech that
          
                  
            53:00
          
          
            he did here's what he said in the
          
                  
            53:02
          
          
            final months of world war ii western leaders
          
                  
            53:06
          
          
            convened the greatest economic minds of their generation
          
                  
            53:09
          
          
            their task to build a new financial system
          
                  
            53:13
          
          
            at a quiet resort high up in the
          
                  
            53:16
          
          
            mountains of new hampshire they laid the foundation
          
                  
            53:19
          
          
            for pax americana the architects of bretton woods
          
                  
            53:23
          
          
            recognized that a global economy required global coordination
          
                  
            53:28
          
          
            to encourage that coordination they created the imf
          
                  
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            and the world bank these twin institutions were
          
                  
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            born after a period of intense geopolitical and
          
                  
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            economic volatility the purpose of the imf and
          
                  
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            the world bank was to better align national
          
                  
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            interests with international order thereby bringing stability to
          
                  
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            an unstable world in short their purpose was
          
                  
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            to restore and preserve balance this remains the
          
                  
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            purpose of the brenton woods institutions yet everywhere
          
                  
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            we look across the international system today we
          
                  
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            see imbalance the good news it doesn't have
          
                  
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            to be this way my goal this morning
          
                  
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            is to outline a blueprint to restore equilibrium
          
                  
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            to the global financial system and the institutions
          
                  
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            designed to uphold it sounds like a new
          
                  
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            accord to me and the what the imf
          
                  
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            their original task as i understand it was
          
                  
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            to allow countries to devalue or revalue their
          
                  
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            currency but with everybody knowing it and so
          
                  
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            you had to go and get permission from
          
                  
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            the imf and that's how they provided stability
          
                  
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            and that's how the whole foreign exchange business
          
                  
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            grew out of that and of course eventually
          
                  
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            went completely nuts so he wants to rebalance
          
                  
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            everything and then here's his clip on in
          
                  
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            response to president trump's tariff announcements more than
          
                  
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            a hundred countries have approached us wanting to
          
                  
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            help rebalance global trade these countries have responded
          
                  
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            openly and positively to the president's actions to
          
                  
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            create a more balanced international system we are
          
                  
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            engaged in meaningful discussions and look forward to
          
                  
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            talking with others china in particularly in particular
          
                  
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            is in need of a rebalancing recent data
          
                  
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            shows the chinese economy tilting even further away
          
                  
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            from consumption toward manufacturing china's economic system with
          
                  
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            growth driven by manufacturing exports will continue to
          
                  
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            create even more serious imbalances with its trading
          
                  
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            partners if the status quo is allowed to
          
                  
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            continue china's current economic model is built on
          
                  
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            exporting its way out of its economic troubles
          
                  
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            it's an unsustainable model that is not only
          
                  
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            harming china but the entire world china needs
          
                  
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            to change the country knows it needs to
          
                  
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            change everyone knows it needs to change and
          
                  
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            we want to help it change because we
          
                  
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            need rebalancing too china can start by moving
          
                  
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            its economy away from export overcapacity and towards
          
                  
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            supporting its own consumers and domestic demand such
          
                  
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            a shift would help with global rebalancing that
          
                  
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            the world desperately needs so rebalancing rebalancing this
          
                  
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            is the most presumptuous this that that last
          
                  
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            part is the part that you're talking about
          
                  
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            that i played the yes um this is
          
                  
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            the most i thought about this this is
          
                  
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            the most presumptuous thing who says that china
          
                  
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            doesn't oh we're so we wish we had
          
                  
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            more uh our trade wasn't so unbalanced this
          
                  
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            bullcrap they've always they've been saying for years
          
                  
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            that they want to own the manufacturing space
          
                  
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            for the whole world and then by some
          
                  
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            date they always have some date in the
          
                  
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            future where they expect to dominate the whole
          
                  
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            all of it china and so what is
          
                  
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            he talking about well he's talking about uh
          
                  
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            doing the exact same thing we want to
          
                  
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            export yeah you can't be all the exporter
          
                  
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            we want to export and we've been talking
          
                  
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            to the chinese about it or have we
          
                  
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            u.s presidents donald trump said on thursday
          
                  
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            that the u.s and china have been
          
                  
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            in trade talks after beijing denied any tariffs
          
                  
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            during a meeting with norway's prime minister at
          
                  
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            the white house trump told reporters that his
          
                  
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            officials had a meeting with their chinese counterparts
          
                  
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            on thursday morning well they had a meeting
          
                  
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            this morning so i can't tell you it
          
                  
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            doesn't matter who they is uh we may
          
                  
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            reveal it later but their meetings this morning
          
                  
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            and we've been meeting with china earlier china's
          
                  
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            foreign ministry denied trump's assertion that the two
          
                  
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            sides were involved in active negotiations These are
          
                  
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            all fake news.
          
                  
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            As far as I know, it's not about
          
                  
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            reaching an agreement.
          
                  
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            that's chinese for fake news the chinese comments
          
                  
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            came after trump said tuesday that the final
          
                  
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            tariff rate on china's exports would come down
          
                  
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            substantially from the current 145 percent the trade
          
                  
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            war has raised fears of a global economic
          
                  
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            slowdown with the international monetary fund imf slashing
          
                  
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            its 2025 growth forecast from 3.3 percent
          
                  
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            to 2.8 percent so you know if
          
                  
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            these mar-a-lago accords actually happen and
          
                  
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            they try to get everybody together and they
          
                  
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            try to rebalance i understand security guarantees i
          
                  
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            understand debt restructuring and i think actually president
          
                  
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            trump could probably do that could convince everybody
          
                  
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            to take on a hundred year bond at
          
                  
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            a uh interest rate um tariff says leverage
          
                  
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            but dollar devaluation i have two questions one
          
                  
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            how do you how do you devalue your
          
                  
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            current how does the dollar devalue what is
          
                  
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            the key the key lever to doing that
          
                  
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            oh and then all of a sudden you
          
                  
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            went away i hate it did that thing
          
                  
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            just do it again hold on john it
          
                  
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            did it again it just decides all of
          
                  
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            a sudden i'm just going to use a
          
                  
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            different a different interface these guys screw are
          
                  
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            you there are you there yeah okay no
          
                  
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            we're completely gone it is clean feed decided
          
                  
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            to change the interface again this is this
          
                  
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            doing this a lot to you yes so
          
                  
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            anyway my question again how do you how
          
                  
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            does one devalue the dollar how do you
          
                  
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            do that well you don't uh for one
          
                  
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            thing the dollar will slide up and down
          
                  
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            uh in its value naturally and it's not
          
                  
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            as devalued as it once was i'd say
          
                  
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            i don't know how many years ago when
          
                  
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            the when the euro was a buck 26
          
                  
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            um i remember that because i went i
          
                  
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            think i was in europe that year and
          
                  
            1:00:11
          
          
            uh so i you it's not like the
          
                  
            1:00:14
          
          
            peso where they all of a sudden make
          
                  
            1:00:15
          
          
            an announcement that is worth half as much
          
                  
            1:00:17
          
          
            well that that's what i'm asking because we're
          
                  
            1:00:19
          
          
            talking about it we can't do that can
          
                  
            1:00:21
          
          
            we do it if we if we flood
          
                  
            1:00:23
          
          
            the world with stable coin could would that
          
                  
            1:00:25
          
          
            do it just by i don't think i
          
                  
            1:00:27
          
          
            don't think i i don't know why you
          
                  
            1:00:28
          
          
            want to do that i'm i'm not saying
          
                  
            1:00:31
          
          
            i want to do anything i hear that
          
                  
            1:00:33
          
          
            i read all the time about dollar devaluation
          
                  
            1:00:36
          
          
            and i'm how does china devalue their currency
          
                  
            1:00:39
          
          
            they're doing it is not a reserve currency
          
                  
            1:00:42
          
          
            and they just they just arbitrarily move it
          
                  
            1:00:45
          
          
            up and down based on but how do
          
                  
            1:00:48
          
          
            you do central planning you have to have
          
                  
            1:00:50
          
          
            central planning it's not possible i'm just we
          
                  
            1:00:52
          
          
            can't go devalue the dollar it's not going
          
                  
            1:00:55
          
          
            to happen asking you okay i'm asking you
          
                  
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            for the mecca so let's say how does
          
                  
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            china just wakes up one day and says
          
                  
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            we're worth less yeah that's how they do
          
                  
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            it this is we're just and they just
          
                  
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            say okay you just do they change the
          
                  
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            exchange rates on there and i'm asking for
          
                  
            1:01:09
          
          
            the mechanics no they change the exchange rate
          
                  
            1:01:12
          
          
            so why couldn't why couldn't we do that
          
                  
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            with a dollar you could do that with
          
                  
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            it you could say we're just the exchange
          
                  
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            rate is now this i'm not saying we
          
                  
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            should the dollar would collapse the whole world
          
                  
            1:01:22
          
          
            economic system would fall apart oh who says
          
                  
            1:01:25
          
          
            that's not the idea we don't want that
          
                  
            1:01:27
          
          
            you have a worldwide depression and we'd be
          
                  
            1:01:30
          
          
            out of a job we could talk about
          
                  
            1:01:31
          
          
            lousy donations man you're fighting me like i'm
          
                  
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            the one saying this should happen i'm just
          
                  
            1:01:39
          
          
            reading about it and i'm trying to understand
          
                  
            1:01:41
          
          
            the mechanisms of it well i don't know
          
                  
            1:01:44
          
          
            what the mechanism would be well could the
          
                  
            1:01:47
          
          
            mechanism be by creating a flood of new
          
                  
            1:01:50
          
          
            dollars in the form of stable coin that
          
                  
            1:01:53
          
          
            would just by having to start the printing
          
                  
            1:01:55
          
          
            presses up that'll do it same thing it's
          
                  
            1:01:57
          
          
            the same hell with stable coin you don't
          
                  
            1:01:59
          
          
            need the stable coin just crank out the
          
                  
            1:02:01
          
          
            money just change the money supply biden kind
          
                  
            1:02:04
          
          
            of did that it cheapened the dollar it's
          
                  
            1:02:06
          
          
            more fun way of doing it it's more
          
                  
            1:02:07
          
          
            fun to say stable coin yeah you like
          
                  
            1:02:10
          
          
            the word stable coin you are in a
          
                  
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            horrible mood today i don't know what did
          
                  
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            you get on out on the wrong side
          
                  
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            of the bed or what what happened to
          
                  
            1:02:17
          
          
            you you're like yeah like you got up
          
                  
            1:02:19
          
          
            on the wrongs what the hell am i
          
                  
            1:02:21
          
          
            doing over here on this side of the
          
                  
            1:02:23
          
          
            bed so how does people get on uh
          
                  
            1:02:28
          
          
            out of bed on the wrong side of
          
                  
            1:02:30
          
          
            the bed i think that's an interesting phrase
          
                  
            1:02:31
          
          
            is this part of the horowitz rift are
          
                  
            1:02:33
          
          
            you are you mad being the child in
          
                  
            1:02:35
          
          
            the middle i mean what's going on man
          
                  
            1:02:37
          
          
            you said you're in a bad mood i'm
          
                  
            1:02:38
          
          
            just trying to get a little conversation you're
          
                  
            1:02:40
          
          
            saying i'm in a bad mood you're bringing
          
                  
            1:02:42
          
          
            up topics that i can't you're asking me
          
                  
            1:02:44
          
          
            questions i can't answer oh then just say
          
                  
            1:02:45
          
          
            i can't answer it instead i said that
          
                  
            1:02:47
          
          
            i already said i don't know instead you
          
                  
            1:02:49
          
          
            said you don't want to do that except
          
                  
            1:02:51
          
          
            you can do the printing pressing that will
          
                  
            1:02:52
          
          
            okay value the dollar but just hypothetically just
          
                  
            1:02:56
          
          
            follow with me you could also do a
          
                  
            1:02:59
          
          
            fake printing press with stable coin i don't
          
                  
            1:03:02
          
          
            know what that even means that's the problem
          
                  
            1:03:04
          
          
            well you create more dollars only these are
          
                  
            1:03:07
          
          
            digital dollars just like the eu is going
          
                  
            1:03:09
          
          
            to do with the digital euro everyone's going
          
                  
            1:03:11
          
          
            to be doing this this is in the
          
                  
            1:03:12
          
          
            cards so the digital dollars the stable coin
          
                  
            1:03:15
          
          
            is the same thing yeah that's that's the
          
                  
            1:03:18
          
          
            yes you you make us when you buy
          
                  
            1:03:20
          
          
            a treasury you for every dollar of treasury
          
                  
            1:03:24
          
          
            bill that you purchase um you get to
          
                  
            1:03:28
          
          
            create a stable coin that's what that's what
          
                  
            1:03:30
          
          
            there are hundreds of billions of stable coins
          
                  
            1:03:33
          
          
            already in circulation based upon this that's what
          
                  
            1:03:36
          
          
            tether does so they they have already done
          
                  
            1:03:40
          
          
            this and that's what lutnick was doing with
          
                  
            1:03:42
          
          
            the cantor fitzgerald they are they are going
          
                  
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            to be the biggest provider of liquidity uh
          
                  
            1:03:48
          
          
            or i guess backing of stable coin sounds
          
                  
            1:03:50
          
          
            like economic mumbo jumbo all economics is mumbo
          
                  
            1:03:55
          
          
            jumbo as far as i'm concerned i think
          
                  
            1:03:58
          
          
            i think there's that's part of the plan
          
                  
            1:04:02
          
          
            just you know just create stable coin that
          
                  
            1:04:05
          
          
            could devalue the dollar that is the same
          
                  
            1:04:08
          
          
            as a printing press only it's not the
          
                  
            1:04:10
          
          
            same as the money supply like m2 or
          
                  
            1:04:12
          
          
            whatever anyway i'm just waiting for the mar
          
                  
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            -a-lago accord that's what i'm waiting for
          
                  
            1:04:19
          
          
            you have some hang up on this mar
          
                  
            1:04:21
          
          
            -a-lago accords because i coined it now
          
                  
            1:04:24
          
          
            everybody's using it i talked about it first
          
                  
            1:04:28
          
          
            okay it's just like the pope everyone's listening
          
                  
            1:04:32
          
          
            to our show and they're not donating well
          
                  
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            that's for sure these guys these guys the
          
                  
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            catholic donors no they're donating what do you
          
                  
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            mean void zero is one of our biggest
          
                  
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            value contributors mega catholic he's a meta meta
          
                  
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            meta catholic meta meta meta meta uh okay
          
                  
            1:04:53
          
          
            well let me see if i can change
          
                  
            1:04:54
          
          
            your mood with this uh sports ball little
          
                  
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            sports ball and you were in the news
          
                  
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            you didn't you don't tell me you're not
          
                  
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            watching the playoffs yeah what playoffs basketball the
          
                  
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            hockey league man oh i haven't following the
          
                  
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            hockey capitals versus the canadians come on yeah
          
                  
            1:05:15
          
          
            there's a guy named dvorak on the capacity
          
                  
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            crowd the first time they've had a fully
          
                  
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            attended playoff game here since 2017 young upstart
          
                  
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            montreal canadians team last team in the postseason
          
                  
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            as they score christian dvorak finds a way
          
                  
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            dvorak restores the canadian's lead dvorak finds a
          
                  
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            way come on tell me you know this
          
                  
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            guy is do you see him at the
          
                  
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            at the uh the big uh the big
          
                  
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            dvorak conference no i didn't see him at
          
                  
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            the dvorak conference but i did not every
          
                  
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            time i hear about the capitals i keep
          
                  
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            thinking i should get a whole you know
          
                  
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            i know the owner of the team real
          
                  
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            uh wait that's um isn't that the guy
          
                  
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            from aol ted ted leonsis yeah i know
          
                  
            1:06:05
          
          
            ted yeah everyone knows ted well you know
          
                  
            1:06:09
          
          
            ted was on our board at pod show
          
                  
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            for like five minutes that sounds like ted
          
                  
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            he was on the board showed up to
          
                  
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            one meeting and went nah screw these guys
          
                  
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            i'm off i got no time to be
          
                  
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            on the board yeah ted leonsis funny guy
          
                  
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            very funny he is a funny guy i
          
                  
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            guess you get a hold of him yeah
          
                  
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            and get a ask if he can be
          
                  
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            on our board what i want to do
          
                  
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            is get an autograph of the guy one
          
                  
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            of the players is not dvorak but there's
          
                  
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            no vetchkin guy that's that's a player well
          
                  
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            that didn't cheer me up well i'm sorry
          
                  
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            okay well let me see if this cheers
          
                  
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            you up tonight one of jeffrey epstein's most
          
                  
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            vocal accusers has died for jimmy to fall
          
                  
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            there's a cheery story here with her family
          
                  
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            helped to expose epstein's evil cbs's ali bauman
          
                  
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            joins us with more tonight ali good evening
          
                  
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            david virginia jufre's family calls her a fierce
          
                  
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            warrior in the fight against sexual abuse and
          
                  
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            other survivors have credited her with giving them
          
                  
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            the courage to speak out she died friday
          
                  
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            at her farm in australia virginia jufre was
          
                  
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            the first accuser of convicted sex offender jeffrey
          
                  
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            epstein to waive her anonymity and go public
          
                  
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            in a statement her family says the 41
          
                  
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            year old was the light that lifted so
          
                  
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            many survivors in the end the toll of
          
                  
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            abuse is so heavy that it became unbearable
          
                  
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            for virginia to handle its weight jufre said
          
                  
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            in 2019 epstein's sex trafficking ring passed her
          
                  
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            around like a platter of fruit to the
          
                  
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            rich and powerful including britain's prince andrew when
          
                  
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            she was 17.
          
                  
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            the duke of york denies the allegations and
          
                  
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            questioned the authenticity of this infamous photo of
          
                  
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            him with his arm around jufre's waist they
          
                  
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            settled out of court for an undisclosed amount
          
                  
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            in 2022.
          
                  
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            we need to show the world that the
          
                  
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            rich and the mighty can fall too.
          
                  
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            jufre spoke with gail king in 2020 about
          
                  
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            her fight for justice and epstein's death by
          
                  
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            suicide in a new york jail.
          
                  
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            it would have been great to look at
          
                  
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            him in court and say you know you
          
                  
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            hurt me you took away my innocence you
          
                  
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            took away my youth but he took that
          
                  
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            away from us too.
          
                  
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            so they didn't really they kind of they
          
                  
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            buried the lead if not explained at all
          
                  
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            because the real story is i have two
          
                  
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            parts here is that she committed suicide.
          
                  
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            the woman who was one of the most
          
                  
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            prominent accusers of wealthy sex offender jeffrey epstein
          
                  
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            has died.
          
                  
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            virginia jufre was 41 years old.
          
                  
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            her family says she died by suicide.
          
                  
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            so this is this is a very strange
          
                  
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            story because i have a clip that i
          
                  
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            clipped i think three weeks ago we just
          
                  
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            there's a lot of clips we don't get
          
                  
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            to in the show and tons yeah and
          
                  
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            it was it was an odd oddball story
          
                  
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            about her so this is three weeks ago
          
                  
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            where she went on instagram it's like oh
          
                  
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            i've been hit by a bus there's a
          
                  
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            couple of things before you play that there's
          
                  
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            a very interesting uh for people who like
          
                  
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            this sort of thing uh conspiracy videos floating
          
                  
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            around saying that she was murdered and uh
          
                  
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            it's very it's kind of fascinating because they
          
                  
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            say the bus accident which they've shown didn't
          
                  
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            didn't account for her actual bruising that she's
          
                  
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            being beaten by some lover of hers that
          
                  
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            was a sadist i guess and beating the
          
                  
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            crap out of her constantly and so the
          
                  
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            pictures you saw were all beat up was
          
                  
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            like not nothing to do with the bus
          
                  
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            wreck that it correct then he then he
          
                  
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            hung her oh i didn't hear that part
          
                  
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            well here's here's the report that i clipped
          
                  
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            three weeks ago police in australia appear to
          
                  
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            have disputed a claim made by prince andrew's
          
                  
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            accuser virginia jufre that she was involved in
          
                  
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            a serious crash which has left her with
          
                  
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            just days to live the 41 year old
          
                  
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            who previously alleged that the duke of york
          
                  
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            had sexually assaulted her when she was a
          
                  
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            teenager wrote on instagram yesterday that her car
          
                  
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            had collided with a school bus well lady
          
                  
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            pitt is here there are some conflicting details
          
                  
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            in this aren't there it is a bit
          
                  
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            confusing mary because in her post online virginia
          
                  
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            jufre said that she's gone into kidney renal
          
                  
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            failure and is being transferred to a specialist
          
                  
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            urology hospital and she's posted a photo where
          
                  
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            she appears to be in a hospital bed
          
                  
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            and has quite severe bruising to her face
          
                  
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            she goes on to say that she has
          
                  
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            four days to live after a crash with
          
                  
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            the school bus near to her home in
          
                  
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            perth in australia now western australia police explain
          
                  
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            they know of a minor crash between a
          
                  
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            school bus and a car that was reported
          
                  
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            by the bus driver the following day but
          
                  
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            there were no reported injuries to them as
          
                  
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            a result of the here's what the officers
          
                  
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            have said i do know there was an
          
                  
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            accident on the 24th of march it was
          
                  
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            a bus with a another vehicle and was
          
                  
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            there any passengers on the bus at the
          
                  
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            time when you were i'm not aware of
          
                  
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            passengers on the bus but certainly the bus
          
                  
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            driver reported as as he was required to
          
                  
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            do and in the right time frames and
          
                  
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            i'm advised it was about two thousand dollars
          
                  
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            damage in the vehicle not aware of any
          
                  
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            injuries so the there's another option which is
          
                  
            1:11:34
          
          
            she's gone underground because pam bondi is about
          
                  
            1:11:39
          
          
            to drop the epstein report what would if
          
                  
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            she she's already out front about all that
          
                  
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            i can't see that being part of it
          
                  
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            i'm just saying this i think my thesis
          
                  
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            about the sadist and the uh is more
          
                  
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            likely oh it's not my thesis i know
          
                  
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            but where is the epstein report that that
          
                  
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            would be the big question where is the
          
                  
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            epstein maybe she here's i guess the third
          
                  
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            possibility she hung herself because she's tired of
          
                  
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            waiting wow oh that's that's pretty bad bad
          
                  
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            bad bad we're never gonna see the epstein
          
                  
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            i don't think so either we have to
          
                  
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            get that out of our craw i don't
          
                  
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            think we're gonna see i don't think there
          
                  
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            is a report i think whatever it is
          
                  
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            been burned with everything else and the epstein
          
                  
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            is probably still alive there you go yep
          
                  
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            uh all right well that didn't die i
          
                  
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            hardly call that a cheerful uh well i
          
                  
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            was just trying to version i i got
          
                  
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            some stuff i know how to cheer me
          
                  
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            up oh no tick tock clips oh please
          
                  
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            talk talk tick tock all right two tick
          
                  
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            tock i have two okay and the first
          
                  
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            one is a this guy it looks exactly
          
                  
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            like governor newsome only he's got gray hair
          
                  
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            and he sounds like newsome and i posted
          
                  
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            uh reposted this on twitter and actually tagged
          
                  
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            newsome because oh i'm gonna tag him that'll
          
                  
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            show him i'm tagging newsome that'll show him
          
                  
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            look at me i'm the real dvorak well
          
                  
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            he does follow me so it's it has
          
                  
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            some meaning you've got great followers name dropping
          
                  
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            yeah and so uh but this guy looks
          
                  
            1:13:26
          
          
            it looks exactly like him and he's a
          
                  
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            little more manic but i just got the
          
                  
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            biggest kick at it but this is typical
          
                  
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            of these guys and he's wearing a suit
          
                  
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            and tie and he's just a screwball clip
          
                  
            1:13:37
          
          
            donald trump is now arresting a federal judge
          
                  
            1:13:41
          
          
            who disagrees with his immigration policy not only
          
                  
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            is this illegal but it's happening at the
          
                  
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            same time that donald trump is defying a
          
                  
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            nine to zero court order the law it
          
                  
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            is at the same time that he's disappearing
          
                  
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            people without due process a violation of the
          
                  
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            constitution a violation of the law make no
          
                  
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            mistake donald trump is breaking the law at
          
                  
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            the same time that he's breaking the law
          
                  
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            further by arresting federal judges this is complete
          
                  
            1:14:11
          
          
            and utter meltdown of the checks and balances
          
                  
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            to protect us from being an authoritarian regime
          
                  
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            now is the time america to be honest
          
                  
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            of course the time was a month ago
          
                  
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            two months ago three months ago last november
          
                  
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            but now if you are not feeling with
          
                  
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            fervor the desire to defend your country to
          
                  
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            defend the promise of what you can be
          
                  
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            then you are no longer part of this
          
                  
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            american experiment call your senators call your reps
          
                  
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            knock on their doors at their offices and
          
                  
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            only one word should be on our lips
          
                  
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            impeach oh man that's
          
                  
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            pretty typical yeah of what that's a typical
          
                  
            1:14:59
          
          
            for a saturday afternoon in your office it's
          
                  
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            just like wow now the other one i
          
                  
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            have which i think is quite funny and
          
                  
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            i don't know you know i'm in between
          
                  
            1:15:11
          
          
            i i if i'm being logical about this
          
                  
            1:15:13
          
          
            this is just a troll and this was
          
                  
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            at an aoc town hall what trolls on
          
                  
            1:15:18
          
          
            tick tock what this this is at an
          
                  
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            aoc town hall it's a question and answer
          
                  
            1:15:24
          
          
            and this woman comes up and she goes
          
                  
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            on about uh her thesis about overpopulation and
          
                  
            1:15:30
          
          
            what we should be doing about it to
          
                  
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            save the planet for climate change and there's
          
                  
            1:15:38
          
          
            a note of sincerity in her voice that
          
                  
            1:15:41
          
          
            she's either i don't know if she got
          
                  
            1:15:42
          
          
            me has me convinced she's a good actress
          
                  
            1:15:44
          
          
            or what but it's a it's a total
          
                  
            1:15:46
          
          
            troll it has to be but alexandria ocasio
          
                  
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            -cortez doesn't call her out as such and
          
                  
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            she just kind of goes along with it
          
                  
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            which is pathetic i might add but here
          
                  
            1:15:56
          
          
            it is gonna be here for much longer
          
                  
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            because of the climate crisis we only have
          
                  
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            a few months left right there troll that
          
                  
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            you support the green deal but it's not
          
                  
            1:16:09
          
          
            getting you know getting rid of fossil fuel
          
                  
            1:16:11
          
          
            it's not going to solve the problem fast
          
                  
            1:16:13
          
          
            enough a swedish professor saying you know we
          
                  
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            can eat dead people but that's not fast
          
                  
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            enough so i think your next campaign slogan
          
                  
            1:16:21
          
          
            has to be this we got to start
          
                  
            1:16:23
          
          
            eating babies we don't have enough time there's
          
                  
            1:16:27
          
          
            too much co2 really now you were questioning
          
                  
            1:16:30
          
          
            if this was true all of you you're
          
                  
            1:16:33
          
          
            you you know you're pollutant too we have
          
                  
            1:16:37
          
          
            to start now please you are so great
          
                  
            1:16:40
          
          
            i'm so happy that you're really supporting nuclear
          
                  
            1:16:42
          
          
            deal but is this the real alex stein
          
                  
            1:16:45
          
          
            dressed up with a with a voice changer
          
                  
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            no it's just some random swedish woman not
          
                  
            1:16:51
          
          
            enough you know even if we would bomb
          
                  
            1:16:53
          
          
            russia we still have too many people too
          
                  
            1:16:56
          
          
            much pollution so we have to get rid
          
                  
            1:16:59
          
          
            of the babies that's a big problem just
          
                  
            1:17:02
          
          
            stopping having babies that's not enough we need
          
                  
            1:17:05
          
          
            to eat the babies and this is very
          
                  
            1:17:07
          
          
            serious please give a response no thank you
          
                  
            1:17:10
          
          
            thank you we'll go ahead um okay no
          
                  
            1:17:16
          
          
            we'll go ahead no no no thank you
          
                  
            1:17:22
          
          
            so i think um yeah no so one
          
                  
            1:17:28
          
          
            of the things that's very important to us
          
                  
            1:17:29
          
          
            is that we need to treat the climate
          
                  
            1:17:32
          
          
            crisis with the urgency that it does present
          
                  
            1:17:35
          
          
            um luckily we have more than a few
          
                  
            1:17:39
          
          
            months we do need to hit net zero
          
                  
            1:17:42
          
          
            in several years um but i think we
          
                  
            1:17:47
          
          
            all need to to to understand that there
          
                  
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            are a lot of solutions that we have
          
                  
            1:17:51
          
          
            and that we can pursue and that if
          
                  
            1:17:54
          
          
            we act in a positive way there's space
          
                  
            1:17:57
          
          
            for hope there's we are never beyond hope
          
                  
            1:17:59
          
          
            now hold on a second i so i
          
                  
            1:18:02
          
          
            went searching for a clip because i know
          
                  
            1:18:05
          
          
            that we had eating the baby so at
          
                  
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            some point in the history of the show
          
                  
            1:18:09
          
          
            2019 is this the same it is that's
          
                  
            1:18:15
          
          
            an old clip it's not from c-span
          
                  
            1:18:19
          
          
            because of the climate crisis that's from 2019
          
                  
            1:18:25
          
          
            well you think my memory would be a
          
                  
            1:18:27
          
          
            little better that i can remember that clip
          
                  
            1:18:28
          
          
            than was it mine and it was taken
          
                  
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            from c-span by the way it wasn't
          
                  
            1:18:32
          
          
            really a tiktok clip i just call everything
          
                  
            1:18:34
          
          
            let me say talk because it's yeah yeah
          
                  
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            uh yeah in one of your clips yeah
          
                  
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            i'm not calling out for that reason i'm
          
                  
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            surprised i don't remember playing it i remembered
          
                  
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            okay well although i have to say we
          
                  
            1:18:47
          
          
            if that clip existed and i submitted it
          
                  
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            it was definitely played oh nobody wants to
          
                  
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            not eating the babies i'm sure i'm sure
          
                  
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            it was played that's why i remember like
          
                  
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            wait i remember eating it but i didn't
          
                  
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            realize it was the exact same clip it's
          
                  
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            in fact it's the same length buck 50
          
                  
            1:19:04
          
          
            interesting well that this is why the internet
          
                  
            1:19:08
          
          
            this is what bothers me by the way
          
                  
            1:19:09
          
          
            this recycling of clips oh i see it
          
                  
            1:19:12
          
          
            so often it's just all over it's all
          
                  
            1:19:15
          
          
            over in fact there's a couple of clips
          
                  
            1:19:16
          
          
            that i saw that i lost track of
          
                  
            1:19:19
          
          
            and then they you know like from about
          
                  
            1:19:21
          
          
            a year ago and and boop there they
          
                  
            1:19:23
          
          
            are again they're coming back around so basically
          
                  
            1:19:25
          
          
            it wasn't aoc getting trolled you got trolled
          
                  
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            with another clip with it with an old
          
                  
            1:19:31
          
          
            clip i got trolled with an old clip
          
                  
            1:19:34
          
          
            but it's a great no it's it's a
          
                  
            1:19:37
          
          
            great clip it's a great clip but this
          
                  
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            i should just put classic on there i
          
                  
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            mean i'm you know sometimes i i wonder
          
                  
            1:19:44
          
          
            if we're doing a disservice because you know
          
                  
            1:19:47
          
          
            the show started off in 28 20 2000
          
                  
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            well before 2008 but 2008 ron paul was
          
                  
            1:19:53
          
          
            running he had and the fed he had
          
                  
            1:19:55
          
          
            his book out and everybody was talking about
          
                  
            1:19:58
          
          
            you know the federal reserve it's as federal
          
                  
            1:20:00
          
          
            as federal express and everyone kind of understood
          
                  
            1:20:03
          
          
            that this was not a government agency and
          
                  
            1:20:06
          
          
            now that ian carroll dude he's made a
          
                  
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            whole video like did you know that the
          
                  
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            federal reserve is as governmental as federal express
          
                  
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            and people are sending it to me like
          
                  
            1:20:15
          
          
            this is a good background or you need
          
                  
            1:20:17
          
          
            to watch this you need to know that
          
                  
            1:20:18
          
          
            the federal reserve is not part of the
          
                  
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            government and i'm thinking to myself ah do
          
                  
            1:20:22
          
          
            we need to re-explain these things is
          
                  
            1:20:24
          
          
            is that where we're at now there's a
          
                  
            1:20:26
          
          
            number of people out there that have condemned
          
                  
            1:20:29
          
          
            oh there was i forgot who it was
          
                  
            1:20:31
          
          
            somebody sent us a note going on and
          
                  
            1:20:33
          
          
            on about how we have basically taken for
          
                  
            1:20:37
          
          
            granted many of these issues with the audience
          
                  
            1:20:40
          
          
            expecting them to know that's possible it's possible
          
                  
            1:20:43
          
          
            i think it's possible maybe we should just
          
                  
            1:20:45
          
          
            start re-airing old shows i think we
          
                  
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            could get away with it you can start
          
                  
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            with the baby clip just find that show
          
                  
            1:20:53
          
          
            and see what else was on there's probably
          
                  
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            some gems for every time that the word
          
                  
            1:20:56
          
          
            obama shows up like oh but trump just
          
                  
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            insert that real quick and that'll be the
          
                  
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            same show nothing's changed eating the baby well
          
                  
            1:21:04
          
          
            i'm glad you remembered that so here is
          
                  
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            um some delusional dc union dems this is
          
                  
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            this is beautiful this is a toe tapper
          
                  
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            you talk about tapping somebody along this is
          
                  
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            your toe tapper um they're so mad at
          
                  
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            doge so mad at musk that they made
          
                  
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            a song about it and it's it's kind
          
                  
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            of a negro spiritual when you listen to
          
                  
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            it oh which side are you on which
          
                  
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            side are you on which side are you
          
                  
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            that's an old that's an old union song
          
                  
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            from the 30s oh it's a union it's
          
                  
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            a it's a commie union song yeah that's
          
                  
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            a that's a classic oh only you would
          
                  
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            know that it's yeah well i do know
          
                  
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            it what side is that's a union song
          
                  
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            yeah which side are you on it was
          
                  
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            a i think it goes back into the
          
                  
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            30s well i'll play this and i'll look
          
                  
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            up the the original ones on we'll fight
          
                  
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            against we'll fight from
          
                  
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            dawn to dusk oh which side are you
          
                  
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            on which side are you on he's got
          
                  
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            this it's really old-fashioned here it is
          
                  
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            it's the american socialist song here we go
          
                  
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            with a banjo apparently from the combined socialist
          
                  
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            states of america 1938 i'm trying to talk
          
                  
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            up the intro it's taken a long time
          
                  
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            come on sing oh okay now here it
          
                  
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            comes so they're doing a socialist song yeah
          
                  
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            wow wow which side are you on yes
          
                  
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            an old socialist song from the wow so
          
                  
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            a bunch of commies hello oh man that's
          
                  
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            crazy if anyone wants to make end of
          
                  
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            show mix i'll put the whole thing in
          
                  
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            the in the show notes i was just
          
                  
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            like and they did a whole new lyrics
          
                  
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            to it like oh brother give me a
          
                  
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            break so here's another interesting thing that took
          
                  
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            place so uh caroline levitt which i discussed
          
                  
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            in the newsletter with some interesting information because
          
                  
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            there's been some phony baloney youtube videos about
          
                  
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            her oh they're going after her personally now
          
                  
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            they're going after her personally is that no
          
                  
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            it's just the opposite oh they're they're it's
          
                  
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            like a reverse smear that's the way i
          
                  
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            described it but they're making it sound like
          
                  
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            some sort of a genius and she just
          
                  
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            sued the view and she got 800 million
          
                  
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            dollars what and it was all elaborate it's
          
                  
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            all you go check the newsletter there's a
          
                  
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            link to the video and if and so
          
                  
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            i checked it and look this is how
          
                  
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            come i haven't heard of this because i'm
          
                  
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            watching it you know being hook line and
          
                  
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            sinkered and uh after watching another video about
          
                  
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            her where she excoriated the supreme court under
          
                  
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            some circumstance which which i eventually found the
          
                  
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            disclaimer for it on the youtube video by
          
                  
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            clicking more so this is fiction oh there's
          
                  
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            no fiction on the 800 million dollar lawsuit
          
                  
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            story which is very well produced and you'd
          
                  
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            be convinced what was it for what was
          
                  
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            the 800 million for uh defamation wow because
          
                  
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            they brought her on the show and they
          
                  
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            slammed her and made fun of her and
          
                  
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            they found all these memos she won this
          
                  
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            suit 800 million no this is the point
          
                  
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            oh okay it's an elaborate hoax but it's
          
                  
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            so elaborate oh wow that it's like you
          
                  
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            see this you watch the video and you
          
                  
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            are totally convinced that this actually took place
          
                  
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            it's very well done i mean the video's
          
                  
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            got clips from different people on the on
          
                  
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            fox talking about how she how this is
          
                  
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            going down and well it looks like she's
          
                  
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            good she got their apology she got an
          
                  
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            apology but she's not and it's just but
          
                  
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            they clip it so beautifully it's one of
          
                  
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            the great pieces of propaganda i've ever seen
          
                  
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            in my life so i look at i
          
                  
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            but i but i believed it because i
          
                  
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            saw it just casually yes and so i
          
                  
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            said i've never heard of this 800 million
          
                  
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            dollars is not chicken feed no that's almost
          
                  
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            a billion like where's the news on this
          
                  
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            there's nothing in the new york times nothing
          
                  
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            in the washington post oh they had you
          
                  
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            going they had you going they had me
          
                  
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            going for a few minutes but then i
          
                  
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            i then i ran it through ai searches
          
                  
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            oh goodness and i ran it through all
          
                  
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            of them i ran through grok spotted it
          
                  
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            as a hoax uh chachi everything but he
          
                  
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            spotted his host but perplexity which is one
          
                  
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            of my go-tos perplexity.ai uh they
          
                  
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            bought it wow and so i i saw
          
                  
            1:25:51
          
          
            the thing about she won this 800 million
          
                  
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            dollar lawsuit and then i looked at the
          
                  
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            they have reference buttons you push and you
          
                  
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            see what the references are and there were
          
                  
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            two references both of the same fake youtube
          
                  
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            video oh yeah that i guess they scanned
          
                  
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            and i don't know how they managed to
          
                  
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            get it in there but they did it
          
                  
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            what ai was wrong no say it ain't
          
                  
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            so so i'm using this as an example
          
                  
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            of ai you know can't even do the
          
                  
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            fact checking for you but but so this
          
                  
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            this kind of thing's been going on so
          
                  
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            uh so but anyway that's aside carolyn levitt
          
                  
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            has made it so you have a couple
          
                  
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            of uh podcasters can now they have a
          
                  
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            podcasting seat oh it's a new media i
          
                  
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            think it's the new media seat yeah the
          
                  
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            new media seat new media and there's a
          
                  
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            seat in front and there's some bunch of
          
                  
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            them in the back but the seat in
          
                  
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            front was now occupied for this one day
          
                  
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            by tim pool your buddy when you're in
          
                  
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            the new media seat you have to wear
          
                  
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            the dunce cap is that the idea you
          
                  
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            sit there in the corner with a big
          
                  
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            over to the side wearing his beanie big
          
                  
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            pointy hat oh with his beanie okay and
          
                  
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            he's sitting there i don't know if you
          
                  
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            saw this or no i did not i
          
                  
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            knew he was okay i knew about this
          
                  
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            is the clip from it it's it how
          
                  
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            long does this clip go for 142 140
          
                  
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            yes 140 just about 140 yeah it's a
          
                  
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            it's a scripted to such an embarrassing extreme
          
                  
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            that she should be ashamed of herself because
          
                  
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            you just this is unbelievable this was this
          
                  
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            is they're going to use this new media
          
                  
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            seat to slam the mainstream media with with
          
                  
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            tropes and she's going to respond oh you
          
                  
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            make such a good point yeah this is
          
                  
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            terrible you're right how does the phone call
          
                  
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            go hello uh tim pool this is the
          
                  
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            white house press office uh we are sending
          
                  
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            you a script we have decided that you
          
                  
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            are going to be in the new media
          
                  
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            seat now since you have a beanie you
          
                  
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            don't have to wear the dunce cap but
          
                  
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            we will be sending you a script and
          
                  
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            we expect you to read it is that
          
                  
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            okay and here's the clip many of these
          
                  
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            organizations that are represented in this room have
          
                  
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            martin lock that right there is written by
          
                  
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            the white house press office that is that
          
                  
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            is a carolyn levitt line many of the
          
                  
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            organizations represented in this room yeah right off
          
                  
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            the bat you can hear it's a script
          
                  
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            many of these organizations that are represented in
          
                  
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            this room have martin lockstep on false narratives
          
                  
            1:28:22
          
          
            such as the very fine people hoax the
          
                  
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            covington smear and now what's being called the
          
                  
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            maryland man hugs did she have his hand
          
                  
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            up her uh her hand up his butt
          
                  
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            and moving his mouth i mean this is
          
                  
            1:28:32
          
          
            unbelievable where an ms13 gang member adjudicated by
          
                  
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            two different judges i believe is just simply
          
                  
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            being referred to as a maryland man over
          
                  
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            and over again now in an effort from
          
                  
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            the white house to expand access to new
          
                  
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            companies you've created this new media seat so
          
                  
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            i'm wondering if you can comment on following
          
                  
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            this expansion you've had numerous outlets to disparage
          
                  
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            the the companies that you've had sit here
          
                  
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            as well as the reporters i'm wondering if
          
                  
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            you can comment on the unprofessional behavior as
          
                  
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            well as elaborate if there's any plans to
          
                  
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            expand access you're behaving very unprofessionally towards me
          
                  
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            i am boy sure well you certainly welcome
          
                  
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            uh diverse viewpoints in this room which is
          
                  
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            one of the reasons we have you in
          
                  
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            here and there's many new faces in this
          
                  
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            room in comparison to the previous administrations we
          
                  
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            want to welcome all viewpoints into this room
          
                  
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            we welcome unbiased journalists who really care about
          
                  
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            the truth and the facts and the accuracy
          
                  
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            and you rightfully pointed out the maryland man
          
                  
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            story which i from this podium when the
          
                  
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            atlantic published it on that very first day
          
                  
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            i came to this podium and said this
          
                  
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            is wrong the the press in this room
          
                  
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            have this story wrong and we have seen
          
                  
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            more and more evidence come to the table
          
                  
            1:29:41
          
          
            that we have had all along we were
          
                  
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            always right the president was always on the
          
                  
            1:29:45
          
          
            right side of this issue to deport this
          
                  
            1:29:47
          
          
            illegal criminal from our community and it is
          
                  
            1:29:49
          
          
            despicable to see the media continue to refer
          
                  
            1:29:51
          
          
            to this individual as someone who is just
          
                  
            1:29:54
          
          
            a peaceful man living his life in maryland
          
                  
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            this is was and always has been an
          
                  
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            illegal criminal an ms-13 gang member and
          
                  
            1:30:01
          
          
            a designated foreign terrorist and the administration maintains
          
                  
            1:30:03
          
          
            our position to deport these individuals from our
          
                  
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            community so thank you for being here tim
          
                  
            1:30:08
          
          
            great to see you thank you oh man
          
                  
            1:30:11
          
          
            how pathetic and you know if she says
          
                  
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            one more time from this podium from this
          
                  
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            podium well i'm going to start using that
          
                  
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            here at my podcast podium john are you
          
                  
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            at your podium what do you think about
          
                  
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            it from your podium yeah yeah meanwhile i
          
                  
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            recorded it last night we had the white
          
                  
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            house correspondence dinner also known as you know
          
                  
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            that they i saw it mentioned and i
          
                  
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            was going to go check it out because
          
                  
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            i why would you why would you never
          
                  
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            did i just completely dropped the ball so
          
                  
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            i'm glad you picked it up well i
          
                  
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            just picked up a little bit of it
          
                  
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            because you know and i what's the most
          
                  
            1:30:52
          
          
            fun is watching it's called the nerd ball
          
                  
            1:30:55
          
          
            the nerd ball the most fun is watching
          
                  
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            the people come in and c-span they
          
                  
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            in essence just turn the camera on they
          
                  
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            have their their their girl there who has
          
                  
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            a microphone and and she's just grabbing people
          
                  
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            of course there was no comedian they they
          
                  
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            fired the comedian there was no president uh
          
                  
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            and there was um there were almost no
          
                  
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            celebrities which was the whole point of the
          
                  
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            fun of the white house correspondence dinner it
          
                  
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            was fun to watch because the comedian would
          
                  
            1:31:25
          
          
            roast the president and the president would sit
          
                  
            1:31:28
          
          
            there and take it and you know it
          
                  
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            was it was that that moment in time
          
                  
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            which is gone gone forever yeah and and
          
                  
            1:31:37
          
          
            so they had the so you know what
          
                  
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            do they have to do well then everyone
          
                  
            1:31:40
          
          
            else is the star so you had all
          
                  
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            of the the news anchors showing up and
          
                  
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            then i saw dana bash with uh what's
          
                  
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            the man woman what's her name caitlin caitlin
          
                  
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            calling jenner no okay no no caitlin collins
          
                  
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            caitlin collins caitlin collins the lipless wonder yeah
          
                  
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            the lipless wonder and they are primping and
          
                  
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            posing for the camera and and shimmying their
          
                  
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            shoulders and laughing and doing yes yes yes
          
                  
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            yes i was my my mouth was a
          
                  
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            gape i'm like oh my gosh they they
          
                  
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            they real they're they're the stars they're the
          
                  
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            celebrities as you all know and then they
          
                  
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            have this guy we invite the president to
          
                  
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            this dinner for decades presidents on both sides
          
                  
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            of the political spectrum get gussied up and
          
                  
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            join us have you seen this guy the
          
                  
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            new president of the white house correspondence association
          
                  
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            yeah it sounds a lot like what's a
          
                  
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            black guy from uh cape heart well he
          
                  
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            might be his brother but he's in a
          
                  
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            complete white suit with um with a instead
          
                  
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            of a tie he's got like a pearl
          
                  
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            brooch and he and he looks what with
          
                  
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            a pearl brooch you know like a brooch
          
                  
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            gay he sounds hello i want to be
          
                  
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            clear about something we don't invite presidents of
          
                  
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            the united states to this because it's for
          
                  
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            them we don't invite them because we want
          
                  
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            to cozy up to them or curry favor
          
                  
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            sounds like we don't you got to look
          
                  
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            at this guy his name is eugene i'm
          
                  
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            looking at eugene daniels he looks like he
          
                  
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            walked right on eugene daniels he looks like
          
                  
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            he walks straight out of an el de
          
                  
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            barge video i mean it's like it's a
          
                  
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            little obscure not for this guy not for
          
                  
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            people who were around in the 80s only
          
                  
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            extend invites to the presidents who say they
          
                  
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            love journalists or who say they are defenders
          
                  
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            of the first amendment and a free press
          
                  
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            we invite them to remind them that they
          
                  
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            should be we invite them to demonstrate that
          
                  
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            those of us who have chosen the public
          
                  
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            service of journalism aren't the public service of
          
                  
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            journalism it's a job doing it because we
          
                  
            1:33:55
          
          
            love flights on air force one or walking
          
                  
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            into the oval office yeah you do it's
          
                  
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            to remind them why a strong fourth estate
          
                  
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            is essential for democracy that's why we have
          
                  
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            podcasters a smattering of applause well here he
          
                  
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            is here's a picture of him in this
          
                  
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            outfit you're talking about so he's wearing it's
          
                  
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            in variety of course of course i'm hi
          
                  
            1:34:16
          
          
            everybody i made variety i made variety these
          
                  
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            people feel like they are stars and there's
          
                  
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            they're pontificating like this is public service who
          
                  
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            are you sitting with who are you sitting
          
                  
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            with well i'm sitting with a bunch of
          
                  
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            guys from ap and cnn isn't there's no
          
                  
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            celebrities i got no one there so this
          
                  
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            guy's the msnbc guy and he's obviously in
          
                  
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            the same milieu as uh cape heart because
          
                  
            1:34:47
          
          
            he sounds so much like him totally why
          
                  
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            at the end of the day it's good
          
                  
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            for them even among the most you know
          
                  
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            if you played this guy out of the
          
                  
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            blue and i had to guess who you
          
                  
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            would have said cape heart you said cape
          
                  
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            heart no yeah free nations the whca what
          
                  
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            we do is unique yeah it is an
          
                  
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            example of american exceptionalism oh though we don't
          
                  
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            have the current president with us this is
          
                  
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            a more than example of douchebaggery this is
          
                  
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            what i'm talking about tonight we wanted to
          
                  
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            hear from some of those who have been
          
                  
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            gracious enough to sit among the white house
          
                  
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            press corps and here we go roll the
          
                  
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            tape members of the white house correspondence association
          
                  
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            distinguished guests ladies and gentlemen here i am
          
                  
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            who was that from saturday night live who
          
                  
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            did bush because that well do you think
          
                  
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            of dana carvey who used to do george
          
                  
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            w hw bush no this is w ain't
          
                  
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            gonna ain't gonna yeah well so then they
          
                  
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            you know then they played the clip of
          
                  
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            that when it was cool when you had
          
                  
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            people making fun of the president and the
          
                  
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            president making fun of himself but they jumped
          
                  
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            that shark so long ago anyway i was
          
                  
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            just like i was they jumped the shark
          
                  
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            when obama uh went after trump yeah yeah
          
                  
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            yeah that's that's right and then everybody else
          
                  
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            went after trump yeah and that was the
          
                  
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            end of it yeah i i didn't pull
          
                  
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            that clip it's funny but he can't take
          
                  
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            a joke when it's just mean-spirited kind
          
                  
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            of uh he i think he's got a
          
                  
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            sense of humor he could take some chiding
          
                  
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            but not when it's uh the way it
          
                  
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            was with obama yeah it was obama uh
          
                  
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            i don't think i clipped that he uh
          
                  
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            oh here it is the imagine if i
          
                  
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            did any of this clip here we go
          
                  
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            imagine if i had done any of this
          
                  
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            let me just i just i just want
          
                  
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            to be clear about there's a lot of
          
                  
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            his he does a lot of that in
          
                  
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            this clip yes i miss him imagine that
          
                  
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            imagine if i had pulled fox news's credentials
          
                  
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            from the white house press court you're laughing
          
                  
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            but no this is what's happening imagine if
          
                  
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            i had said to law firms that were
          
                  
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            representing parties that were upset with policies my
          
                  
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            administration had initiated that you will not be
          
                  
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            allowed into government buildings i don't think that
          
                  
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            happened did it not that i know of
          
                  
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            yeah government buildings it was a cia skiff
          
                  
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            this is uh from the midas touch network
          
                  
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            i'm still a fan come on we will
          
                  
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            punish you economically for dissenting from the affordable
          
                  
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            carrot what oh always is he talking what
          
                  
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            is he talking about i have no idea
          
                  
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            what he's talking or the iran deal the
          
                  
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            iran deal we will ferret out students students
          
                  
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            spooks who protest against my policies a genius
          
                  
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            genius i didn't know where this was when
          
                  
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            did he do that we can't believe you
          
                  
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            can still he can still pack a house
          
                  
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            people that oh obama wasn't that bad man
          
                  
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            it's not as bad as this was the
          
                  
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            mainstream the m5m is pretty much all they're
          
                  
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            doing now is polls oh the country hates
          
                  
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            what trump's doing 22 percent no one agrees
          
                  
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            no one likes it but the best this
          
                  
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            week came from the supreme court and this
          
                  
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            was a this is mamut versus v taylor
          
                  
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            this is about a montgomery school district so
          
                  
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            montgomery is in is that virginia montgomery i
          
                  
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            think it's montgomery no this is uh maryland
          
                  
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            maryland yes thank you um about the uh
          
                  
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            the lgbtq books in school yeah for the
          
                  
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            fifth five for the kindergartners they got they
          
                  
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            have the gay dog book and then there
          
                  
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            was all these other snm books and leather
          
                  
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            yes so i pulled two very funny stuff
          
                  
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            well it's it's it'd be funny if it
          
                  
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            wasn't so pathetic i mean it's just i
          
                  
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            mean in the defense so here's uh supreme
          
                  
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            court justice gorsuch first he's getting the details
          
                  
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            on these books now this is just not
          
                  
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            the books in the library this is being
          
                  
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            taught as part of the english curriculum what
          
                  
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            age do you um in montgomery county teach
          
                  
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            students normally about human sexuality um i think
          
                  
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            that it begins in either fourth or fifth
          
                  
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            grade a human sexuality class family life and
          
                  
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            human sexuality curriculum i'm not entirely sure starts
          
                  
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            in fourth or fifth grade you think is
          
                  
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            there anything you can point us to in
          
                  
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            the record um i don't think so okay
          
                  
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            and uh second these books are being used
          
                  
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            in english class the wow you know what
          
                  
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            he sounds a bit like when he said
          
                  
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            when he starts someone's going to start this
          
                  
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            off um what age do you um in
          
                  
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            montgomery county teach students normally about human sexuality
          
                  
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            tell me about your sexuality it's in your
          
                  
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            dna man charlie rose and judge gorsuch same
          
                  
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            guy um what age do you um in
          
                  
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            montgomery county teach students normally about human sexuality
          
                  
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            um i think that it begins in either
          
                  
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            fourth or fifth grade a human sexuality class
          
                  
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            family life and human sexuality curriculum okay i'm
          
                  
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            not entirely sure starts in fourth or fifth
          
                  
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            grade you think is there anything you can
          
                  
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            point us to in the record on that
          
                  
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            um i don't think so okay and uh
          
                  
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            second these books are being used in english
          
                  
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            class the division between english class and other
          
                  
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            things in a second grade classroom doesn't really
          
                  
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            exist you're sort of in a room with
          
                  
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            a teacher and somehow i appreciate that i
          
                  
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            i went to second grade too but but
          
                  
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            but it's it's part of the english curriculum
          
                  
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            that these books are being used and that's
          
                  
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            i i thought that was yeah i'm not
          
                  
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            i'm not fighting the premise i'm just saying
          
                  
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            that's not the math class it's not it's
          
                  
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            not the human sexuality class it's it is
          
                  
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            certainly not the human sexuality class i'm just
          
                  
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            sort of fighting the premise but there's a
          
                  
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            neat distinction and they're being used in in
          
                  
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            english language instruction at age three um some
          
                  
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            of them so pride puppy was the book
          
                  
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            that was used for the pre-kindergarten curriculum
          
                  
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            that's fried puppy fried puppy longer in the
          
                  
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            curriculum that's the one where by the way
          
                  
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            this is unconscionable no kidding they would they
          
                  
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            would introduce three years pre-kindergartener kids to
          
                  
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            pride puppy and some of these other things
          
                  
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            this is i never got brought up in
          
                  
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            any of the conversations that i think they've
          
                  
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            they've banned the term but this is pure
          
                  
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            grooming completely it's grooming grooming grooming and who
          
                  
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            who are these people trying to kid um
          
                  
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            some of them so pride puppy was the
          
                  
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            book that was used for the pre-kindergarten
          
                  
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            curriculum that's no longer in the curriculum that's
          
                  
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            the one where they are supposed to look
          
                  
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            for the leather and things and bondage things
          
                  
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            like that it's not bonding it's a woman
          
                  
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            and a leather sex worker right no no
          
                  
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            it's not correct no i thought i gosh
          
                  
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            i i read it that's my favorite gosh
          
                  
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            i i read it i saw it as
          
                  
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            bondage i mean i might have to reevaluate
          
                  
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            my thoughts drag queen and drag the leather
          
                  
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            that they're pointing to is a woman in
          
                  
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            a leather jacket um and one of the
          
                  
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            words is drag queen and they're supposed to
          
                  
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            look for those it is an option at
          
                  
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            the end of the book correct yeah okay
          
                  
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            so this goes on and by the way
          
                  
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            they brought in uh comparisons to religion which
          
                  
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            was very really confused uh the whole conversation
          
                  
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            but this so that's one i'm glad you
          
                  
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            got these clips yeah i mean he actually
          
                  
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            was robbed the constitutional lawyer who sent him
          
                  
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            to me he says this is this is
          
                  
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            some good he said this is show material
          
                  
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            yeah you know i i saw him almost
          
                  
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            all the stuff i because it was fascinating
          
                  
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            it's hard not to listen to it and
          
                  
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            i don't know why i didn't clip it
          
                  
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            but it's definitely important because it's insane well
          
                  
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            and here's the part that is even more
          
                  
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            insane you're you've included these in the english
          
                  
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            language curriculum rather than the human sexuality curriculum
          
                  
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            to influence students is that fair that's what
          
                  
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            the district court found so the keyword influence
          
                  
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            to influence students um i think to the
          
                  
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            extent the district court found that it was
          
                  
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            to influence it was to influence them towards
          
                  
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            civility influence them towards civility the natural consequence
          
                  
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            of being exposed whatever but to influence them
          
                  
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            um in the manner that i just mentioned
          
                  
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            yes so that right there is enough you
          
                  
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            are not in school to influence children are
          
                  
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            you i mean influence here is just another
          
                  
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            nowadays propagandize yeah i mean obviously you want
          
                  
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            your teacher to be a good influence but
          
                  
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            that's a different different use of the verb
          
                  
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            influence this is to propagandize children is really
          
                  
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            this this is homeschool people homeschool and responding
          
                  
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            to parents who are concerned you agree that
          
                  
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            this there was some intemperate language used yeah
          
                  
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            so uh and this is why it's um
          
                  
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            mahmud versus taylor so it was the muslims
          
                  
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            who said hey stop this nonsense they're the
          
                  
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            ones that stood up and so i guess
          
                  
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            there was a a a temperative uh atmosphere
          
                  
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            in at the school board where people may
          
                  
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            have gotten a little bit heated and then
          
                  
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            this guy said something which you know well
          
                  
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            you know was i didn't i didn't quite
          
                  
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            mean it whatever uh i i don't know
          
                  
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            that those were responding to parents who were
          
                  
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            concerned this was after the fact for most
          
                  
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            of these comments um and this was in
          
                  
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            a very public setting which obviously got heated
          
                  
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            and some intemperate comments were used certainly and
          
                  
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            and i wanted to understand your your your
          
                  
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            context that you're giving about the statement that
          
                  
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            uh some muslim families it's unfortunate that this
          
                  
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            that this issue put some muslim families on
          
                  
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            the same side of an issue as white
          
                  
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            supremacists and outright bigots i think in response
          
                  
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            to justice sotomayor you're trying to give some
          
                  
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            context to that i don't think i was
          
                  
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            speaking directly about that comment i think that
          
                  
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            comment was given or was made in june
          
                  
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            which was several months after the decision to
          
                  
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            withdraw the opt-outs was made i don't
          
                  
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            have context for that statement now oh i
          
                  
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            don't have context we understand the context you're
          
                  
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            telling these muslim parents are just like these
          
                  
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            these white supremacist nazis this has to stop
          
                  
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            i can't even believe that the judges had
          
                  
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            such decorum during this whole hearing it's really
          
                  
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            and this goes far beyond just a couple
          
                  
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            of books in the library they are influencing
          
                  
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            children yes i wonder if um is it
          
                  
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            a synonym grooming synonym influence let's see
          
                  
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            38 similar words hmm doesn't show up but
          
                  
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            it does in my dictionary that's it's this
          
                  
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            is really nuts yeah the whole thing was
          
                  
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            quite good and then katanji jackson brown guy
          
                  
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            missed he kind of took the side of
          
                  
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            the school district well of course well you
          
                  
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            know if you don't like it go someplace
          
                  
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            else yeah yeah yeah well then she's introduced
          
                  
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            the idea of school choice yes of course
          
                  
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            her final thing was homeschool she did say
          
                  
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            that no that's that's the the final answer
          
                  
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            obviously i got i got a note from
          
                  
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            uh one of our one of our producers
          
                  
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            but we don't but it is the final
          
                  
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            answer except for the fact that we're being
          
                  
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            taxed to death for the educational system and
          
                  
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            we should be able to use it we
          
                  
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            should be able to send this the kids
          
                  
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            to a private public school and it should
          
                  
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            be fine they should learn how to read
          
                  
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            write and and do math yeah and but
          
                  
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            no they're being taught about gay dogs i
          
                  
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            mean it's beyond me pride puppy is not
          
                  
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            a gay dog just search for search for
          
                  
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            the for the woman in leather boots on
          
                  
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            the ground peer network for mental health disorders
          
                  
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            among kids from one of our producers just
          
                  
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            pulled the kids from public school why why
          
                  
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            because of a cultural issue based in our
          
                  
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            rural schools that was persistently spreading amongst the
          
                  
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            children we are privy to more knowledge because
          
                  
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            my wife worked for the school as well
          
                  
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            there was a chronically online over socialized seventh
          
                  
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            grader who determined she was a therian you
          
                  
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            know what a therian is i didn't know
          
                  
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            what a therian is a therian wow that's
          
                  
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            a new one to me too kids who
          
                  
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            identify as an animal oh furry yeah well
          
                  
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            the therian within three months she had convinced
          
                  
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            almost 70 of the girls of this in
          
                  
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            this small school that they also identified as
          
                  
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            animals i see yeah the social that's what's
          
                  
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            with the social contagion i say convinced because
          
                  
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            she predatorily targeted the younger children to gain
          
                  
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            more self-assurance in her position children as
          
                  
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            young as four years old were asking their
          
                  
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            parents to buy them tails and masks to
          
                  
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            go to school in it worked its way
          
                  
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            back up the classes the data from the
          
                  
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            school shows it was mostly all girls from
          
                  
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            4 to 14 and only a couple of
          
                  
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            mentally unstable boys there's no bias here with
          
                  
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            our producer the school refused well you know
          
                  
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            yeah a couple of guys let the guy
          
                  
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            get in on this action hey all the
          
                  
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            chicks are wearing tails i'm in the school
          
                  
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            refused to acknowledge what was happening and do
          
                  
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            anything about it so i agree it's 100
          
                  
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            percent the peer network social networks including youtube
          
                  
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            and the internet our children started coming home
          
                  
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            and using language and saying they are identifying
          
                  
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            as a cat or a dog and then
          
                  
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            we have to have some long conversations about
          
                  
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            it and it's dangerous and what it really
          
                  
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            meant they got the idea uh they got
          
                  
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            the idea to understand the severity of identify
          
                  
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            and went to school to declare that they
          
                  
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            were mistaken but would love to play as
          
                  
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            a dog or cat etc that was our
          
                  
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            compromise that's a big compromise not much of
          
                  
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            one we ultimately decided to pull the kids
          
                  
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            halfway through the year to home school parents
          
                  
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            who did not pull their kids are reporting
          
                  
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            their kids are more and more adamant about
          
                  
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            it defying them fighting with them trying to
          
                  
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            pursue their therian self biting them biting their
          
                  
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            ankles uh other parents are starting to try
          
                  
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            and buy these children the tails and garb
          
                  
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            that they need to fully identify as said
          
                  
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            animal in defiance of this is a great
          
                  
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            note showing that it takes one parent one
          
                  
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            kid and school scared off a lawsuit over
          
                  
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            this woke language to really ruin a school
          
                  
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            district so i guess that they uh it
          
                  
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            was getting this is this is not okay
          
                  
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            and good for you anonymous producer parent good
          
                  
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            for you although i wouldn't even gone with
          
                  
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            the with the compromise no forget that put
          
                  
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            up with that crap yeah so this is
          
                  
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            what's happening the internet killing everybody slowly oh
          
                  
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            goodness well it doesn't have to no it
          
                  
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            well no it doesn't have to uh al
          
                  
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            gore was on bill maher friday yeah i
          
                  
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            saw that uh you know what i wanted
          
                  
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            to get a i didn't get a clip
          
                  
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            from that i did i'm i did i'm
          
                  
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            glad you did but you know i wanted
          
                  
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            to clip i wanted to get uh just
          
                  
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            to just another one of these i didn't
          
                  
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            clip i have a million clips but i
          
                  
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            you know i don't clip you don't clip
          
                  
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            them i got all these clips that i
          
                  
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            didn't clip because you know i got clips
          
                  
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            that i didn't clip i got i got
          
                  
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            a lot of clips that i did clip
          
                  
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            you got up on the wrong side of
          
                  
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            the bed you know that's what happened that's
          
                  
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            what it was but i wanted to get
          
                  
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            steve bannon when he was on yeah i
          
                  
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            think the week before and bannon is the
          
                  
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            one who claims that he's the one who
          
                  
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            started the trump 2028 idea oh really yes
          
                  
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            he says he started it and it was
          
                  
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            then they they're looking into and he says
          
                  
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            they think they can legally do it and
          
                  
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            he wants to do it and he went
          
                  
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            on and on and on so the whole
          
                  
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            thing's a ban and scam clearly although it
          
                  
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            is the most arrogant character he's just you
          
                  
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            know but president trump unveiled it in the
          
                  
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            oval office to frau ingraham he said come
          
                  
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            here take a look at this take a
          
                  
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            look at this you're talking about the hat
          
                  
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            yeah yeah they had which i think eric
          
                  
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            or don jr did it i don't know
          
                  
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            who did the hat but he didn't say
          
                  
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            but he never said he was gonna he
          
                  
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            thought it was he never actually stated that
          
                  
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            he's gonna do it he's around the bush
          
                  
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            of course not the sad thing is he
          
                  
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            knows he's not gonna do it it's just
          
                  
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            bullcrap but but ban is taking it very
          
                  
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            unlike us and every other observer who thinks
          
                  
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            that trump's a goof and he likes to
          
                  
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            do these kinds of things ban is taking
          
                  
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            it very seriously well let me paraphrase from
          
                  
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            the text group here in fredericksburg texas hill
          
                  
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            country look at this the libs are losing
          
                  
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            their minds and it could constitutionally it can
          
                  
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            be done that's what bannon says yeah well
          
                  
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            that's what they did it's very clear that
          
                  
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            it can't be done it's it's well you
          
                  
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            should tell buzzkill jr that because he's all
          
                  
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            this is just another version i got to
          
                  
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            i got the money in the bank i'm
          
                  
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            do i see it this is just another
          
                  
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            version of uh marshall law it's it's another
          
                  
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            version of marshall law it's another version of
          
                  
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            the grid going down another version of micro
          
                  
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            dots it's going okay you don't you didn't
          
                  
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            have you didn't have to hurt me you
          
                  
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            didn't have to pull me in i've already
          
                  
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            repented for all that um well i'm not
          
                  
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            condemning you and uh 10 days of darkness
          
                  
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            i forget about that one and then when
          
                  
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            we come back after 10 days of darkness
          
                  
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            everything it's going to be a great reset
          
                  
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            everything will be different and we'll all be
          
                  
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            billionaires because we bought xrp i'm telling you
          
                  
            1:53:38
          
          
            the xrp thing is still in play i
          
                  
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            forgot about the xrp thing it you know
          
                  
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            with the quantum off world servers yes there
          
                  
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            were there were people who were you're not
          
                  
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            you're in the you're right in the dead
          
                  
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            center of this i i really think that's
          
                  
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            great i love it and the thing is
          
                  
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            i can i can laugh with these people
          
                  
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            about it and like did you buy any
          
                  
            1:54:00
          
          
            more xrp just like yeah it's going to
          
                  
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            2000 i hear if it go i have
          
                  
            1:54:06
          
          
            a thousand xrp that i bought at like
          
                  
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            five cents and i was about right i
          
                  
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            didn't even realize i had it until i
          
                  
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            looked at an old one oh i got
          
                  
            1:54:15
          
          
            this and got some xlm too and they're
          
                  
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            like it's going to tooth as if it
          
                  
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            goes to 2000 i'm buying you a car
          
                  
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            because i will have two million dollars not
          
                  
            1:54:26
          
          
            you john i keep telling that oh no
          
                  
            1:54:28
          
          
            what about me no you're not getting a
          
                  
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            car you know you know no no um
          
                  
            1:54:33
          
          
            so anyway here is al gore on bill
          
                  
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            maher and here he is responding to the
          
                  
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            speech that he gave which we pulled apart
          
                  
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            on the last episode of the best podcast
          
                  
            1:54:43
          
          
            in the universe we generally have the same
          
                  
            1:54:45
          
          
            view of the trump administration yeah um yeah
          
                  
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            yeah you were in the news this week
          
                  
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            for invoking nazis well i didn't do what
          
                  
            1:54:56
          
          
            jd vance did and call the trump america's
          
                  
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            hitler when he did that a few years
          
                  
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            ago well he's what he actually said was
          
                  
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            i think about trump a lot and he
          
                  
            1:55:06
          
          
            could be an asshole just like nixon or
          
                  
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            he could be america's hitler oh that's and
          
                  
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            i remember thinking oh so the good option
          
                  
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            i i like i like how bill maher
          
                  
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            is defending with facts is that he's just
          
                  
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            an asshole well but i think there's a
          
                  
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            big difference in comparing someone to hitler he
          
                  
            1:55:26
          
          
            i mean we heard the clip he compared
          
                  
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            him to hitler it was it but oh
          
                  
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            no no i was talking about the frankfurt
          
                  
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            school on the one hand which you which
          
                  
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            i don't do i i think that's a
          
                  
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            big mistake and i said that in the
          
                  
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            speech that you're referring to that's a unique
          
                  
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            form of evil that should not ever be
          
                  
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            compared to anything but we are not living
          
                  
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            up to our responsibility uh to our constitution
          
                  
            1:55:52
          
          
            if we don't remain alert to warning signs
          
                  
            1:55:56
          
          
            that we know from history not only from
          
                  
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            the third reich but from a whole series
          
                  
            1:56:01
          
          
            of strongman dictators when they start trying to
          
                  
            1:56:05
          
          
            tell people what to think when they start
          
                  
            1:56:08
          
          
            trying to expand their power so that they
          
                  
            1:56:11
          
          
            push the congress around push the judiciary around
          
                  
            1:56:15
          
          
            and try to consolidate dictatorship the first steps
          
                  
            1:56:19
          
          
            on that road are ones that we should
          
                  
            1:56:21
          
          
            see as warning signs and those warning signs
          
                  
            1:56:24
          
          
            are your own facts your own truth lies
          
                  
            1:56:29
          
          
            nazi is a hard word yeah to use
          
                  
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            with nuance so so when you when you
          
                  
            1:56:35
          
          
            bring that word out you know i i
          
                  
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            feel like they're the goat of evil you
          
                  
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            know and and so it just conflates i
          
                  
            1:56:43
          
          
            agree with that i agree with that but
          
                  
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            if you look at what i actually said
          
                  
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            in that in that speech there was a
          
                  
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            group of german philosophers that went back after
          
                  
            1:56:52
          
          
            the war and conducted a kind of moral
          
                  
            1:56:54
          
          
            autopsy and they said one of them said
          
                  
            1:56:57
          
          
            that the first step on the descent into
          
                  
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            hell in that case was and i quote
          
                  
            1:57:02
          
          
            the conversion of all questions of truth into
          
                  
            1:57:05
          
          
            questions of power they attack the distinction between
          
                  
            1:57:08
          
          
            true and false and when i see and
          
                  
            1:57:11
          
          
            hear over and over again the assertion of
          
                  
            1:57:14
          
          
            complete inaccuracies that ukraine is responsible for starting
          
                  
            1:57:18
          
          
            sure the war with russia uh there's so
          
                  
            1:57:21
          
          
            many of them and and they keep asserting
          
                  
            1:57:23
          
          
            these things expecting us to believe that the
          
                  
            1:57:26
          
          
            climate crisis is a hoax invented by the
          
                  
            1:57:29
          
          
            chinese that windmills cause cancer that clean is
          
                  
            1:57:32
          
          
            that coal is clean uh and they they
          
                  
            1:57:35
          
          
            try to assert with the force of power
          
                  
            1:57:37
          
          
            their own special version of alternative facts but
          
                  
            1:57:41
          
          
            i guarantee that the side of the country
          
                  
            1:57:43
          
          
            that voted for trump they hear nazi and
          
                  
            1:57:45
          
          
            they just go oh you're calling us nazis
          
                  
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            first of all it's a bit of a
          
                  
            1:57:49
          
          
            false premise as bad as they are and
          
                  
            1:57:51
          
          
            also it just says to them well you
          
                  
            1:57:54
          
          
            just hate us bill maher he may be
          
                  
            1:57:57
          
          
            part of the saving grace of the country
          
                  
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            i have to do a uh-oh or
          
                  
            1:58:03
          
          
            the one listener out there has a history
          
                  
            1:58:05
          
          
            or has a background in science made a
          
                  
            1:58:07
          
          
            point that i made an error oh when
          
                  
            1:58:11
          
          
            i said when i was talking about clean
          
                  
            1:58:12
          
          
            coal i'm glad that you played that clip
          
                  
            1:58:14
          
          
            now it reminded me because i was gonna
          
                  
            1:58:16
          
          
            do it and i forgot all about it
          
                  
            1:58:18
          
          
            of course as usual and it was lignite
          
                  
            1:58:21
          
          
            is the worst coal not the best coal
          
                  
            1:58:24
          
          
            the best coal is actually something called anthracite
          
                  
            1:58:28
          
          
            uh which is super clean coal and lignite
          
                  
            1:58:31
          
          
            is the dirty dirty coal but even though
          
                  
            1:58:34
          
          
            we can kind of burn it uh in
          
                  
            1:58:36
          
          
            these floating beds but i i don't know
          
                  
            1:58:38
          
          
            why i said lignite i know what it
          
                  
            1:58:40
          
          
            is and it was a blunder i'm surprised
          
                  
            1:58:44
          
          
            i only got one note from one guy
          
                  
            1:58:45
          
          
            well we got a lot of notes about
          
                  
            1:58:48
          
          
            um uh cold water creek about the manhattan
          
                  
            1:58:56
          
          
            project waste yes and there and the notes
          
                  
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            were all over the map well we got
          
                  
            1:59:02
          
          
            ones like this please revisit the cold water
          
                  
            1:59:06
          
          
            creek nuclear story from show 1758 minute marker
          
                  
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            40.02 to 46.20 you and john
          
                  
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            were clearly lost first not knowing about it
          
                  
            1:59:19
          
          
            that's my favorite not knowing about it second
          
                  
            1:59:23
          
          
            saying repeatedly it was in pennsylvania and thirdly
          
                  
            1:59:27
          
          
            dismissing it as simply fear mongering easy does
          
                  
            1:59:32
          
          
            it people were just we're just here the
          
                  
            1:59:34
          
          
            podcast podium you can just say hey you
          
                  
            1:59:38
          
          
            know you were wrong um this is what's
          
                  
            1:59:40
          
          
            going on and there really is something happening
          
                  
            1:59:42
          
          
            there and a family of mine uh has
          
                  
            1:59:46
          
          
            indeed uh you know gotten sick from stuff
          
                  
            1:59:48
          
          
            that's probably around here but no waste from
          
                  
            1:59:52
          
          
            the u.s nuclear bomb project was in
          
                  
            1:59:54
          
          
            fact buried in missouri and is in fact
          
                  
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            still making people ill today also john the
          
                  
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            most inexpensive geiger counters under 800 will not
          
                  
            2:00:06
          
          
            detect alpha radiation oh my goodness mea culpa
          
                  
            2:00:14
          
          
            um i still hold the belief that it
          
                  
            2:00:18
          
          
            was a story that was brought back to
          
                  
            2:00:22
          
          
            fear monger against nuclear yeah i think you're
          
                  
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            right that i believe that is correct exemplification
          
                  
            2:00:28
          
          
            of that idea is the actually we had
          
                  
            2:00:31
          
          
            another there's another story somebody pointed out then
          
                  
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            sent it to you and i think you
          
                  
            2:00:35
          
          
            may have got looked into it which is
          
                  
            2:00:37
          
          
            a story that had resurfaced two or three
          
                  
            2:00:40
          
          
            or four times over the last four or
          
                  
            2:00:42
          
          
            five years which is something you've spotted a
          
                  
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            lot and i'd say the baby i'd say
          
                  
            2:00:46
          
          
            say the baby eating uh thing is a
          
                  
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            good example on today's yeah yeah and that
          
                  
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            was from five years ago yeah six so
          
                  
            2:00:55
          
          
            yeah recycling of of memes yes it happens
          
                  
            2:00:58
          
          
            and tropes it happens so it's very common
          
                  
            2:01:01
          
          
            and it's like uh it was a good
          
                  
            2:01:03
          
          
            say it worked back there in those days
          
                  
            2:01:05
          
          
            let's do it again so no sooner had
          
                  
            2:01:07
          
          
            the president signed his uh ai in school
          
                  
            2:01:11
          
          
            executive order then we start we start getting
          
                  
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            inundated with ai in the schools so i'd
          
                  
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            call this propaganda too because remember it was
          
                  
            2:01:21
          
          
            public private partnerships so this is about the
          
                  
            2:01:25
          
          
            abhi robots the abhi robot so the kids
          
                  
            2:01:29
          
          
            are sitting in the abhi lab and they
          
                  
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            all have a computer in front of them
          
                  
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            the computer has a camera it's scanning their
          
                  
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            eyes to see what they're looking at on
          
                  
            2:01:39
          
          
            the screen and the little cute little robot
          
                  
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            sits on a shelf they each have their
          
                  
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            own little robot and the robot you know
          
                  
            2:01:45
          
          
            his eyes blink and it's you remember that
          
                  
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            dog remember the sony dog ibo ibo thank
          
                  
            2:01:51
          
          
            you ibo this is abhi hmm i wonder
          
                  
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            if it's also from japan so yeah so
          
                  
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            it's it's kind of like that only it's
          
                  
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            more robot-esque but it's not much more
          
                  
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            you know it has some it can move
          
                  
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            its arms and it swivels its body but
          
                  
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            it's doing great for the kids um it's
          
                  
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            become like a mascot meet abhi we didn't
          
                  
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            know what abby was but it came with
          
                  
            2:02:12
          
          
            a promise of uplifting our test scores the
          
                  
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            ai program is aimed at kindergarten through fifth
          
                  
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            graders and helps both students and teachers in
          
                  
            2:02:22
          
          
            the learning process they never complain becoming abby
          
                  
            2:02:25
          
          
            lab it's like miss miller we're going to
          
                  
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            abby lab today you know it's like it's
          
                  
            2:02:30
          
          
            like yes we're going to the abby lab
          
                  
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            the robot uses the camera in the student's
          
                  
            2:02:35
          
          
            computer to track eye movements and their attention
          
                  
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            span it helps them stay on track we'll
          
                  
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            actually pause the math or reading lesson call
          
                  
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            them out by name and say hey you're
          
                  
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            not paying attention let's make sure we stay
          
                  
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            focused before we move on to the next
          
                  
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            problem the program uses a student's account to
          
                  
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            track their progress by subject um abby customized
          
                  
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            um the lesson that they're getting so children
          
                  
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            feel that at the end of the day
          
                  
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            that abby is meeting their needs abby is
          
                  
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            capable of adapting to students learning styles and
          
                  
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            celebrates those who are succeeding this new frontier
          
                  
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            may be worrisome to some parents but creators
          
                  
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            say abby won't take the place of teachers
          
                  
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            it's an additional tool tools have a place
          
                  
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            right they don't they don't supplant they don't
          
                  
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            replace but they should have a place that
          
                  
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            helps empower teachers in a way that gives
          
                  
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            them the ability to do more in their
          
                  
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            classroom and the school is seeing positive results
          
                  
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            one teacher says this is accelerating the kids
          
                  
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            learning early in the school year the one
          
                  
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            that comes to lab are moving up into
          
                  
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            second grade abby lab has really helped them
          
                  
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            reaching the goals that they need to reach
          
                  
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            in first grade and starting them with a
          
                  
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            solid foundation in second grade so apparently it's
          
                  
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            working it's one of our trolls said is
          
                  
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            it like one of those monkeys with the
          
                  
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            symbols yeah that's kind of what it is
          
                  
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            a mechanical version of the monkey with the
          
                  
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            symbols oh you did a ching ching you
          
                  
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            did a good job you know i did
          
                  
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            some vibe coding uh over the weekend which
          
                  
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            is a vibe coding it's a new word
          
                  
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            i learned vibe coding vibe coding is where
          
                  
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            you uh uh program computer code with ai
          
                  
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            vibe coding because i have a project i'm
          
                  
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            working on this project and it it's the
          
                  
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            same thing that i talked about last time
          
                  
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            it makes a mistake and then you know
          
                  
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            it's oh i see i made a mistake
          
                  
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            because i give it the error log and
          
                  
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            then and then before you know it it's
          
                  
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            like well you have to recompile your kernel
          
                  
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            i mean literally it takes you in circles
          
                  
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            it goes around and then because i don't
          
                  
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            know what i'm doing i'm not a coder
          
                  
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            and i i want it desperately like help
          
                  
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            me it's not a very difficult program but
          
                  
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            help me do it and because i'm not
          
                  
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            a programmer i expect the ai and i
          
                  
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            said i'm not a programmer and i brought
          
                  
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            up what jc said about this on a
          
                  
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            previous show because you made this complaint before
          
                  
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            which is that ai coding is no good
          
                  
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            if you can't code so i want to
          
                  
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            take yes i want to take a little
          
                  
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            bit further because for me coding with ai
          
                  
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            is almost like working with a genius kindergarten
          
                  
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            who has adhd and has a box of
          
                  
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            animal crackers you know you can't can't focus
          
                  
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            it's all over them it's nuts and then
          
                  
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            i realize we have to apply the man
          
                  
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            gelman amnesia thesis to ai remind us what
          
                  
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            that is man gelman is where you read
          
                  
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            something in the news man gelman amnesia where
          
                  
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            you read something in the newspaper about a
          
                  
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            topic you absolutely are an expert in and
          
                  
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            it's wrong ergo you can assume that every
          
                  
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            other article in the newspaper about things you
          
                  
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            don't know about is going to be wrong
          
                  
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            that's the man gel the uh man gelman
          
                  
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            amnesia effect why is it called amnesia you
          
                  
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            think because you forget you're the amnesia part
          
                  
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            uh oh the you know i because you
          
                  
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            forget that hey they they don't know what
          
                  
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            they're talking about so when it comes to
          
                  
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            aviation you know it's like well they don't
          
                  
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            then they rarely have it right with accidents
          
                  
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            and all the design i mean even with
          
                  
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            what we're talking about earlier um with uh
          
                  
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            with the phone line well you know it
          
                  
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            was a dirty line it was a commercial
          
                  
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            and it had didn't have a firewall like
          
                  
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            okay sure yeah that's what makes a line
          
                  
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            not dirty is having a firewall so that's
          
                  
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            bullcrap so then we can presume that everything
          
                  
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            else they say is bullcrap and by the
          
                  
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            way that's probably the same with us too
          
                  
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            however we know a lot about we know
          
                  
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            a little about a lot don't we know
          
                  
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            a lot about a little yeah we do
          
                  
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            we know a lot about a little and
          
                  
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            a little about a lot yeah which is
          
                  
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            better than most people but when i do
          
                  
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            podcasting who just shoot this shit so when
          
                  
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            it comes to creating podcasts i would say
          
                  
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            ai gets a below passing grade it can't
          
                  
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            do podcasts it's always the same thing well
          
                  
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            let's take a deep dive yeah uh so
          
                  
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            if we know that it cannot properly do
          
                  
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            podcasting it probably can't do great coding either
          
                  
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            could i and so back to buzzkill jr
          
                  
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            could i maybe use it for some things
          
                  
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            in podcasting yeah you can make some isos
          
                  
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            for the end of the show that's about
          
                  
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            it i have some for today's show but
          
                  
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            first i'd like to thank you for your
          
                  
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            currency in the morning to you the man
          
                  
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            who put the c in his very own
          
                  
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            podcast podium say hello to my friend on
          
                  
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            the other end the one the only mr
          
                  
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            john oh shoot now
          
                  
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            we're talking 2473 trolls peak time is listening
          
                  
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            at troll room.io tuning into the live
          
                  
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            stream which is good and the trolls have
          
                  
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            been found and the trolls are now all
          
                  
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            turning into baby eaters yeah it doesn't surprise
          
                  
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            me trolls like eating babies so you can
          
                  
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            join them at troll room.io or if
          
                  
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            you want to you can listen live on
          
                  
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            a modern podcast app go to podcast apps
          
                  
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            .com i like podcast guru that's the one
          
                  
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            i've been using someone just asked me today
          
                  
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            what should i use well you should try
          
                  
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            them all i would say try them all
          
                  
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            there's a whole there's a cornucopia of podcast
          
                  
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            apps to use they have many more features
          
                  
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            than your apple or your spotify or anything
          
                  
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            else you can find including the live bat
          
                  
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            signal which is for all of the no
          
                  
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            agenda uh live podcasts on no agenda stream
          
                  
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            i think they pretty much all um are
          
                  
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            using the live the live title is called
          
                  
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            the live tag the lit live lit tag
          
                  
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            is what it's called just live and you'll
          
                  
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            be notified so when darren and and larry
          
                  
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            go live with planet rage which is typically
          
                  
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            i want to say that i don't even
          
                  
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            know what day it is but it's always
          
                  
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            right around the time i'm walking the dog
          
                  
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            then my poop my phone goes like oh
          
                  
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            oh the boys it's planet rage and i
          
                  
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            listen live while i'm walking around also you
          
                  
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            get chapters you get transcripts all kinds of
          
                  
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            benefits and that's interesting adam where can you
          
                  
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            find all these podcasts is there a compendium
          
                  
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            or a list of what they are and
          
                  
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            where they are well i'm glad you asked
          
                  
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            john i would go to podcast apps.com
          
                  
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            that would take you to this entire list
          
                  
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            it shows you it's a compendium and it
          
                  
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            shows you all of the features they support
          
                  
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            it's well worth your time and trouble wow
          
                  
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            thanks thank you podcasting 2.0 people thank
          
                  
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            you for that um we are value for
          
                  
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            value um which means we will not get
          
                  
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            a seat at the new media spot in
          
                  
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            the uh in the white house press chair
          
                  
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            we don't we're not being put on the
          
                  
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            chair it's like getting a time out congratulations
          
                  
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            you're now in the white house you're in
          
                  
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            the timeout spot but that also means that
          
                  
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            we rely entirely on the value that you
          
                  
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            feel you get from what we do and
          
                  
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            send back to us that's something we started
          
                  
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            in in our first year said this is
          
                  
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            never we can never do ads not because
          
                  
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            you know we yes i didn't print this
          
                  
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            out but we did i you know since
          
                  
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            i sent out the second note i get
          
                  
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            a lot of feedback i try to answer
          
                  
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            most of it about why the donations are
          
                  
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            down oh and so uh and they all
          
                  
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            get perked back up enough so that it's
          
                  
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            not nothing to complain about but i got
          
                  
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            the one my favorite one of some one
          
                  
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            of our producers it's because you're communist he
          
                  
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            says you're asking for money and then you're
          
                  
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            taking it from us and then you're passing
          
                  
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            it to yourselves and he went on and
          
                  
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            on about it he says the communist model's
          
                  
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            no good it was described to me yesterday
          
                  
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            at lunch as god's economy i thought that
          
                  
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            was a good one i like that too
          
                  
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            so i don't know about the communist one
          
                  
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            no we just decided early on that and
          
                  
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            a lot of people think well it's good
          
                  
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            you know because if you had ads you'd
          
                  
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            be deplatformed and people would pull their ads
          
                  
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            so yeah oh yeah we bet we would
          
                  
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            this show would not be existing if we
          
                  
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            had used another model but that's not the
          
                  
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            prime reason the prime reason we didn't want
          
                  
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            ads was we didn't want to have meetings
          
                  
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            with advertisers well that's your main reason because
          
                  
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            you always had to do that hi i'm
          
                  
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            the monkey boy remember me from mtv one
          
                  
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            nanny nanny walker walker walker hey everybody headbangers
          
                  
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            ball yeah baby with some butthead now buy
          
                  
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            some ads yeah yeah who right and then
          
                  
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            you had didn't have the money from the
          
                  
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            ads go to the sales group anyway yeah
          
                  
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            yeah yeah and commissions everywhere and then yeah
          
                  
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            it's no good yeah and then they have
          
                  
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            to be uh try you need a traffic
          
                  
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            instead we said you know what if you
          
                  
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            get any value from the show send it
          
                  
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            an experiment and it worked and people liked
          
                  
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            it they liked the idea of supporting us
          
                  
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            for the value they get like like even
          
                  
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            uh the the producer from horowitz's drunk party
          
                  
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            it was probably a florida key party if
          
                  
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            you ask me and uh and she said
          
                  
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            you know what way does that mean you
          
                  
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            don't know what wife swapping yeah that's key
          
                  
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            parties yeah that that's a big thing in
          
                  
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            florida no good days are over no it's
          
                  
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            hey i'm telling you remember we had a
          
                  
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            big group there in the in florida and
          
                  
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            they they disbanded all of a sudden i
          
                  
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            think was a key party gone wrong well
          
                  
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            that's interesting yeah that's a big disappointment i
          
                  
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            forgot what the name of that uh the
          
                  
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            group yeah it was a good good group
          
                  
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            it was a good group and no one's
          
                  
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            ever meeting all the time it's like indiana
          
                  
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            yeah no one picked it up although we
          
                  
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            do have a a meter report for leo
          
                  
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            bravo knocked it out of the park today
          
                  
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            he had 20 people at uh at his
          
                  
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            los angeles meet people coming down from washington
          
                  
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            it's a nice report um no so instead
          
                  
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            we just ask you to contribute back time
          
                  
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            talent treasure that's the three t's of the
          
                  
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            value for value model it's now become a
          
                  
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            thing people talk about oh i'm value for
          
                  
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            value oh really yeah where did you come
          
                  
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            up with that well a man's from the
          
                  
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            bitcoiners well i don't think so but that's
          
                  
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            all right it's good yes more stolen valor
          
                  
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            value for value.info if you want to
          
                  
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            learn more about it value number four value
          
                  
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            .info and so people can do all kinds
          
                  
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            of things we've had people do many things
          
                  
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            throughout the ages to support the show in
          
                  
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            fact the reason that you still get no
          
                  
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            agenda at the top of all your google
          
                  
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            searches because one of our early producers was
          
                  
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            an seo expert and he cemented us inside
          
                  
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            the algorithms no agenda is this show when
          
                  
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            you're looking for it also news with no
          
                  
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            agenda i think we pop up at the
          
                  
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            top of the list so that was a
          
                  
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            very valuable contribution back to the show and
          
                  
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            of course another valuable contribution is the artwork
          
                  
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            that our artists diligently are making during the
          
                  
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            live show because they're using that modern podcast
          
                  
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            app they get alerted oh yeah that's right
          
                  
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            i gotta listen i gotta make some art
          
                  
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            and then they upload that to noagendaartgenerator.com
          
                  
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            another fine website that one of our producers
          
                  
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            sir paul couture has provided and kept running
          
                  
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            for us mostly for the past 10-15
          
                  
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            years and the artwork for episode 1758 which
          
                  
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            we titled scream circle was a fine ai
          
                  
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            generated piece which just made us laugh from
          
                  
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            francisco scaramanga it was our black pope done
          
                  
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            as a muppet with the odds of him
          
                  
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            being chosen 33 to 1 and it hit
          
                  
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            home people loved it they were laughing their
          
                  
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            butts off and when i see on x
          
                  
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            people say the minute this popped up i
          
                  
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            had to pull over and and get the
          
                  
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            podcast i had to listen to what was
          
                  
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            going on it was very it's very funny
          
                  
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            and it's it's something about the goofball smile
          
                  
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            i think that just makes a goofy smile
          
                  
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            it's really good um let's see if there's
          
                  
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            any other things that we looked at that
          
                  
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            were close seconds not really no i remember
          
                  
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            because typically we do the credits liked a
          
                  
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            few pieces but none of them yeah getting
          
                  
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            the mark you like the uh watermelon juice
          
                  
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            from matthew dropko i thought you liked it
          
                  
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            no you liked it you liked it i
          
                  
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            i was like kind of simple the mustache
          
                  
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            wedding was cute but we didn't think anyone
          
                  
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            would really understand that one is pretty obscure
          
                  
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            oh the one that i liked you put
          
                  
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            the kibosh on right away and not without
          
                  
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            merit was the two popes doing rock paper
          
                  
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            scissors oh yeah the black pope and the
          
                  
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            white pope and you're like that's no good
          
                  
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            look at their hands it's all a is
          
                  
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            no good yeah the one hand the guy's
          
                  
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            fingers were a mile long and the other
          
                  
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            fist couldn't even form a fist it was
          
                  
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            terrible it's too bad because the the concept
          
                  
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            was good the concept was good but no
          
                  
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            you also liked the mustache wedding you said
          
                  
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            that a minute ago but i'm just looking
          
                  
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            at it now now no no i didn't
          
                  
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            fight you on it didn't fight you no
          
                  
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            no the only one you really were yeah
          
                  
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            you're right the one you were really pushing
          
                  
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            was rock paper scissors i like the rock
          
                  
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            paper scissors but you know but we're we
          
                  
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            have veto power and i wasn't going to
          
                  
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            argue i mean sometimes we'll argue over like
          
                  
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            well i can make the case we've done
          
                  
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            deals we've done backroom deals i'll give you
          
                  
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            i'll give you two weeks of art if
          
                  
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            you give me this one just give me
          
                  
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            this one please i like it i like
          
                  
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            it uh that was about it that was
          
                  
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            about it uh and it's nice to see
          
                  
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            there's some real art in there it's not
          
                  
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            it's not all ai there's people doing stuff
          
                  
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            we appreciate you we appreciate all of our
          
                  
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            artists um especially those who are professional artists
          
                  
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            who are seeing that this can be a
          
                  
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            tool and i guess i guess it's working
          
                  
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            for them i mean just like uh i
          
                  
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            remember when i think a lot of artists
          
                  
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            like to see if they can crank something
          
                  
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            out yeah i'm sure it's good to do
          
                  
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            production work because you still it's still the
          
                  
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            concept without the concept you know the concept
          
                  
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            of the two popes was a great concept
          
                  
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            but yeah those the two fingers of the
          
                  
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            white pope that was just that was no
          
                  
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            good that was too much and i don't
          
                  
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            think that was intentional go fox did that
          
                  
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            anyway thank you very much we appreciate that
          
                  
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            now we also like to thank all of
          
                  
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            our producers who sent us some treasure fifty
          
                  
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            dollars and above we will thank you profusely
          
                  
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            for supporting the show we got a lot
          
                  
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            of people who came in just under the
          
                  
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            wire for the commodore promotion which ends on
          
                  
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            wednesday wednesday yes so i guess that's your
          
                  
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            last chance and we're going to thank the
          
                  
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            executive and associate executive producers right now that's
          
                  
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            you become an associate executive producer we read
          
                  
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            your note that title is good for the
          
                  
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            rest of your life you can use it
          
                  
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            anywhere hollywood credits are accepted you could go
          
                  
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            to the white house correspondence dinner by the
          
                  
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            way wednesday is the 100th day of the
          
                  
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            time martial law uh an executive producer credit
          
                  
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            for you if you're three hundred dollars or
          
                  
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            above and we will read your note and
          
                  
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            we kick it off with alvocado which sounds
          
                  
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            like a pseudonym to me from rockaway beach
          
                  
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            new york 58008 that's five that's that's boobs
          
                  
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            backwards i just noticed i request anonymity i
          
                  
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            choose to identify as commodore alvocado i could
          
                  
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            use a double karma so there's no note
          
                  
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            to be read during the show well there's
          
                  
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            a note here what's he talking about he's
          
                  
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            got a whole note what i do request
          
                  
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            an american made deducing please oh man i'm
          
                  
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            sorry you've been deduced there you go that
          
                  
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            is made in america no ai i was
          
                  
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            introduced to no agenda with adam's appearance on
          
                  
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            the motley fool podcast with chris hill wow
          
                  
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            i do not remember ever being on that
          
                  
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            show i don't think you were he says
          
                  
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            i couldn't say when that was 2018 i
          
                  
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            don't think i have ever been on the
          
                  
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            motley fool podcast 500 is for one of
          
                  
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            the last pre-tariff commodore ships and 8008
          
                  
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            to support the path laid by the distinguished
          
                  
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            producer from north carolina the home state of
          
                  
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            my childhood that would be uh our vicount
          
                  
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            i guess is he from north carolina talking
          
                  
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            about the duke of luna yeah no he's
          
                  
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            not no he's the duke of luna it's
          
                  
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            not north carolina yeah that's our duke of
          
                  
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            luna oh that okay and he goes on
          
                  
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            to say lover america and boobs he's from
          
                  
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            he conquered north carolina there you go that's
          
                  
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            him so it's it's uh in support of
          
                  
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            him hypocrite of the week alone is worth
          
                  
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            reading the newsletter people john and adam thanks
          
                  
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            for the show's humor dignity positive feel and
          
                  
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            breadth of topics while cutting through the obfuscations
          
                  
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            the other producers contributions are also appreciated it
          
                  
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            all makes for a truly great show and
          
                  
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            experience that's right your no agenda show is
          
                  
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            an experience many talk about making the world
          
                  
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            a better place you are doing something about
          
                  
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            it cheers from the beaches of new york
          
                  
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            city rockaway beach thank you oh wait uh
          
                  
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            double up karma you've got uh sorry
          
                  
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            david timmons in oklahoma city okc uh 500
          
                  
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            bucks i just uh donated a commodore 500
          
                  
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            thing but have a bit over 500 in
          
                  
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            other donations so this is not only a
          
                  
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            commoner donation but also makes me a knight
          
                  
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            oh okay well you got that you got
          
                  
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            it please knight me as sir demo dave
          
                  
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            and i guess sir commodore demo day would
          
                  
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            be it commodore sir demo dave question mark
          
                  
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            he says he's he's he's obsessed i am
          
                  
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            not sure how that works but that's yeah
          
                  
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            that works that way it's perfect either way
          
                  
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            i love all of you and god loves
          
                  
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            you even more amen diego saints is in
          
                  
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            platt smith nebraska 500 commodore part rican commodore
          
                  
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            part rican i like that so instead of
          
                  
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            puerto rican part rican all he wants is
          
                  
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            a deducing you've been deduced sir sean in
          
                  
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            uh in uh where's cr is this that's
          
                  
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            not puerto rico morris san jose cr cr
          
                  
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            uh costa rica costa rica there you go
          
                  
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            costa rica gotta be gotta be karma for
          
                  
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            all the high speed no agenda listeners and
          
                  
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            i'm not sure what that means from sir
          
                  
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            sean knight of the cis-gendered third world
          
                  
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            jungle you've got that's
          
                  
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            the high speed the high speed is the
          
                  
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            luge i guess uh julian torado uh deutschland
          
                  
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            torado torado karlsruhe deutschland 500 dear john and
          
                  
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            adam first of all please deduce me you've
          
                  
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            been deduced jingle request they're eating the dogs
          
                  
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            plus that's true and i would like to
          
                  
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            become commodore j the plumber no agenda is
          
                  
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            the reason why i was able to stay
          
                  
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            strong in the times of the covid vaccinations
          
                  
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            when my employer would have liked to see
          
                  
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            me properly filled my properly filled out vaccination
          
                  
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            passport shame on our union by the way
          
                  
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            but i resisted the back successfully instead it
          
                  
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            was necessary for me and the other vaccine
          
                  
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            skeptics to visit one of the many corona
          
                  
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            testosterone around the city each working day four
          
                  
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            months the other vaccinated colleagues of mine were
          
                  
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            exempted by this rule and were free to
          
                  
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            just visit work sometimes coughing and sniffing to
          
                  
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            this day it's no kidding to this day
          
                  
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            i'm very thankful for the both of you
          
                  
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            informing all of us back in the days
          
                  
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            about the reports of all kinds of horrible
          
                  
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            side effects by this insane gene therapy four
          
                  
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            more years and i have a bonus clip
          
                  
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            i have a bonus clip this is from
          
                  
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            the bbc this is bbc very famous for
          
                  
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            their snooker have you seen this clip of
          
                  
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            the snooker snooker snooker snooker the the game
          
                  
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            snooker yeah the game that's like pool but
          
                  
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            with different like pool and the smaller and
          
                  
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            the rules are different so listen to the
          
                  
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            commentators from the bbc with this particular snooker
          
                  
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            play yeah very controlled i seem to remember
          
                  
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            reading an interview i think where ben was
          
                  
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            talking about 62 after what he feels was
          
                  
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            the covid jab and then he immediately feeling
          
                  
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            63 unusual but his hand was shaking a
          
                  
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            lot and i was hadn't seen him play
          
                  
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            since then but no sign of that now
          
                  
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            that's good looks rock solid on the shot
          
                  
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            yes his hands do look steady remember when
          
                  
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            we had the chat they'd say to you
          
                  
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            can you please stick around for five minutes
          
                  
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            or ten minutes make sure you feel okay
          
                  
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            and it was in that five or ten
          
                  
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            minutes he either fainted or collapsed it was
          
                  
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            one of the two then he felt fine
          
                  
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            and he went home and he collapsed again
          
                  
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            so in the immediate aftermath of his jab
          
                  
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            he collapsed twice 75 and ever since then
          
                  
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            it's been a very very gradual up and
          
                  
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            down return to full health and i know
          
                  
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            there are certain weeks where in the early
          
                  
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            days he couldn't practice more than an hour
          
                  
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            a day because it would be so exhausting
          
                  
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            i think he's learned to to manage that
          
                  
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            still has periods if he's feeling tired where
          
                  
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            it comes back a bit but by and
          
                  
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            large touchwood he is healthy again but the
          
                  
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            normalization of this is amazing to me worst
          
                  
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            bonus clip ever it works better with the
          
                  
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            video i guess they're eating the dogs that's
          
                  
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            true oh man i got the wrong that's
          
                  
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            true again how can that be it's true
          
                  
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            what is this it's true i know but
          
                  
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            it's it's there's something wrong with the with
          
                  
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            my system now hold on a second what
          
                  
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            it's it's not showing up stand by that's
          
                  
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            true that's true that's true what's this we
          
                  
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            welcome in isis no that's not it i
          
                  
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            remember that there it is there it is
          
                  
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            mark it yes it's marked i got it
          
                  
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            that's true you're writing classic call it classic
          
                  
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            it's that's true classic i'm going to rename
          
                  
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            it right now okay that's true robert patruska
          
                  
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            that that was julian terrato by the way
          
                  
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            classic that was for him robert patruska is
          
                  
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            up and he's in stroudsburg pennsylvania and he's
          
                  
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            also went for 500 bucks we'd appreciate that
          
                  
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            in the morning donation slump yes i bet
          
                  
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            the newsletter lately has been nothing but a
          
                  
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            piece but a plea for a buck it's
          
                  
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            always the same at the beginning i love
          
                  
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            this this is a great note please consider
          
                  
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            adding actual content to the newsletter all right
          
                  
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            so we've discussed this before sometimes because i
          
                  
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            always usually i proofread the newsletter i didn't
          
                  
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            get to proofread it yesterday john will sometimes
          
                  
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            put actual content like he'll write a little
          
                  
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            essay an essay let and and what do
          
                  
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            i always say dog is get nothing we'll
          
                  
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            get no donation the minute you put real
          
                  
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            content in it no donations this is a
          
                  
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            fact this is a fact of nature the
          
                  
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            ones that get the best that there was
          
                  
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            content in this last one that carolyn levin
          
                  
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            stuff was quite interesting i thought yeah that's
          
                  
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            why no one donated hello and i thought
          
                  
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            it was probably too interesting you're right and
          
                  
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            then we talked i talked about the judges
          
                  
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            i did get some feedback on the judges
          
                  
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            the guys one of our producers called said
          
                  
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            the judges thing you're wrong anyway so um
          
                  
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            that was content and help yeah anyway so
          
                  
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            he wants more content thank you go to
          
                  
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            my substack column go read that devore i
          
                  
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            could sub devore.substack.com thank you he
          
                  
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            says with that out of the way i
          
                  
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            appreciate what you do for the show keep
          
                  
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            it up karm karm we go to riverside
          
                  
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            working even on the holidays like last easter
          
                  
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            trapping gophers with traditional traps you got to
          
                  
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            know where to put the trap and uh
          
                  
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            and you can what do you do after
          
                  
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            you trap the gopher you eat it you
          
                  
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            take that sucker and you cook them up
          
                  
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            a big mouse trap it's a big mouse
          
                  
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            trap yeah yeah yeah with spikes poor suckers
          
                  
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            the tunnel that's what you got to do
          
                  
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            is there something that i just scroll down
          
                  
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            didn't see that uh yeah that's that's a
          
                  
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            -worker with family and friends in turkey i
          
                  
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            the what was it how many were dead
          
                  
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            john's email about poor donations and decided it
          
                  
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            returning some value for value i received i
          
                  
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            it was the time i started to return
          
                  
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            meetup okay very good we had 17 people
          
                  
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            even hurt it at all but that seems
          
                  
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            pretty hard that's for sure cherry there's a
          
                  
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            guy there's somebody without a last name named
          
                  
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            hank and he's in i forgot what part
          
                  
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            of california is in one of the areas
          
                  
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            and he sent me a whole bunch of
          
                  
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            weird things okay with no note a bunch
          
                  
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            of candy bars and some uh some kinder
          
                  
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            eggs the real ones from germany you should
          
                  
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            eat them all john nothing suspicious about that
          
                  
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            well the kinder egg is a hollow product
          
                  
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            that has a a toy inside that i
          
                  
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            can't figure out how to open there well
          
                  
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            you you bite in it you bite into
          
                  
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            the egg but i you can't no this
          
                  
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            is a this is like a this is
          
                  
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            no as a as a policy this is
          
                  
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            a hard this is a this is a
          
                  
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            hard piece of plastic oh no oh okay
          
                  
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            as a policy the egg is paper thin
          
                  
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            it breaks up there's a thing inside yeah
          
                  
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            and there's a trick to opening it i
          
                  
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            don't know what it is as a policy
          
                  
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            i don't eat candy that people send me
          
                  
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            to the po boxes yeah unless it comes
          
                  
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            from a company like you know those little
          
                  
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            john's guys the uh he also sent me
          
                  
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            two uh japanese 2000 yen notes which i
          
                  
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            believe if you uh do the math it's
          
                  
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            101 so it would be 40 bucks 40
          
                  
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            bucks james green is our last associate executive
          
                  
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            producer and he's in elfland elfland north carolina
          
                  
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            and he says this is in honor of
          
                  
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            a dear friend nick dawkins who passed away
          
                  
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            recently from cancer i bitched about work and
          
                  
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            life issues and watched the man in life's
          
                  
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            darkest days gracefully and by example spread his
          
                  
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            infectious jesus freak passion thanks as always and
          
                  
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            uh while we're on that before we end
          
                  
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            this donation segment i got a note from
          
                  
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            dame colorado carebear and she says i would
          
                  
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            like emergency karma for sir veto who lost
          
                  
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            his wife last week sending love and healing
          
                  
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            to our friend as he battles this trial
          
                  
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            the colorado no agenda meetup group comes together
          
                  
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            in support and love for our friend thank
          
                  
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            you very much so yes emergency karma for
          
                  
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            him of course you've got karma and that
          
                  
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            does conclude our executive and associate executive producer
          
                  
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            segment for episode 1759 we appreciate you so
          
                  
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            much thank you and as always these credits
          
                  
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            can be used anywhere that's hollywood style credits
          
                  
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            are recognized and accepted including the white house
          
                  
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            correspondence association but you have to be wearing
          
                  
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            a brooch and of course we'll be thanking
          
                  
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            everybody 50 dollars and above in our second
          
                  
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            segment coming up soon our formula is this
          
                  
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            we hit people in the mouth order
          
                  
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            well i i have a report on uh
          
                  
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            the re-emergence of our old buddies our
          
                  
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            old buddies the white helmets the oh you
          
                  
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            mean the guys uh from uh from syria
          
                  
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            those white helmets yeah uh the ones who
          
                  
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            faked all of those uh those pictures yeah
          
                  
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            huh okay they're back in action now they're
          
                  
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            firemen but they're still the same group and
          
                  
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            where are they now they're still still they
          
                  
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            came down from the hills and they're still
          
                  
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            in syria but now they're downtown this is
          
                  
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            the white helmets report from pbs during syria's
          
                  
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            long civil war emergency responders wearing white helmets
          
                  
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            became famous they were known for running into
          
                  
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            harm's way to rescue civilians from collapsed buildings
          
                  
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            in the aftermath of regime airstrikes the white
          
                  
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            helmets were nominated for the nobel peace prize
          
                  
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            and featured in an oscar-winning documentary well
          
                  
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            now with syria's dictator bashar al-assad gone
          
                  
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            the white helmets have a new mission and
          
                  
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            a new challenge npr's lauren frayer takes us
          
                  
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            to a damascus firehouse to see them in
          
                  
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            action oh wow this is all burned so
          
                  
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            we're rushing into this emergency here firefighters rush
          
                  
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            into a burning building in the syrian capital
          
                  
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            firefighter tarik talib says they managed to extinguish
          
                  
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            the flames in time and no one was
          
                  
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            injured residents are gobsmacked they got here so
          
                  
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            quickly and they didn't ask for an says
          
                  
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            mohammed bassem saeed a retiree who lived through
          
                  
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            syria's civil war and says he never got
          
                  
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            help like this these new firefighters wear gold
          
                  
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            and navy uniforms and iconic white helmets for
          
                  
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            most of the war the white helmets operated
          
                  
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            only in rebel held areas dictator bashar al
          
                  
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            -assad had decked the capital with billboards vilifying
          
                  
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            them as traitors and terrorists i never believed
          
                  
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            any of that though saeed says thanking the
          
                  
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            firefighters profusely thank you when asat fell in
          
                  
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            december a white helmets convoy rolled south from
          
                  
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            rebel territory and into damascus i felt joy
          
                  
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            grief and shock altogether says amr zarife a
          
                  
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            white helmet who's from damascus but hadn't been
          
                  
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            here since 2018 when he responded to a
          
                  
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            chemical weapons attack by asad's forces when you
          
                  
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            do a documentary about a group which is
          
                  
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            clearly hoaxing shouldn't your award be taken back
          
                  
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            i would think so because the white house
          
                  
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            that never happens the white house correspondence association
          
                  
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            they uh um i think they handed out
          
                  
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            an award or or they highlighted the the
          
                  
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            documentary or no the news report about how
          
                  
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            the biden biden's mental health was covered up
          
                  
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            and they're giving out an award for that
          
                  
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            while they all participated in the cover-up
          
                  
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            isn't that amazing it's nothing well i think
          
                  
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            some explanation will reveal it this is the
          
                  
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            the clips of reveal oh and i think
          
                  
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            you'll hear you'll figure this out uh why
          
                  
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            this has nothing to come of it and
          
                  
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            why the white helmets are still being uh
          
                  
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            extolled here we go lives in a damascus
          
                  
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            firehouse where the white helmets have set up
          
                  
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            new headquarters their founder raed saleh is now
          
                  
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            in syria's cabinet and the volunteer force he
          
                  
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            founded 12 years ago is extending its reach
          
                  
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            for the first time to the entire country
          
                  
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            it's the journey of the syrian people and
          
                  
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            the syrian revolution deputy leader farooq habib says
          
                  
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            their workload has actually quadrupled even though the
          
                  
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            war is over most of our country is
          
                  
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            destroyed half of our people lost their homes
          
                  
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            and they are displaced either internally or they
          
                  
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            became refugees okay that was uh that wasn't
          
                  
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            the killer clip this we'll wrap it up
          
                  
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            with this one this is killer clip this
          
                  
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            is the one now our main mission is
          
                  
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            to deal with the legacy of the war
          
                  
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            help to find the missing persons we're dealing
          
                  
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            with the mass graves cluster munition they're also
          
                  
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            repairing roads and water pipes these are people
          
                  
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            who started as shopkeepers teachers gas station attendants
          
                  
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            and engineers habib was a banker i was
          
                  
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            a regional manager at a private bank in
          
                  
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            syria when the revolution started some people carried
          
                  
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            guns some people left and some people volunteered
          
                  
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            in the opposition held northwest the white helmets
          
                  
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            served about five million people habib says they're
          
                  
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            now stretching to eventually meet the needs of
          
                  
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            more than 20 million syrians even as their
          
                  
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            budget is cut usaid the foreign aid agency
          
                  
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            dismantled by the trump administration it used to
          
                  
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            be the white helmet's biggest funder oh gee
          
                  
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            wouldn't you know it oh those horrible trump
          
                  
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            people horrible so we're funding the white helmets
          
                  
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            yeah of course we were the american taxpayer
          
                  
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            we were funding the white is picking up
          
                  
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            the tab yeah we were funding um i
          
                  
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            have a couple middle east clips that i'd
          
                  
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            like to play we're running out of time
          
                  
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            for today but i think that we are
          
                  
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            nearing a solution for palestine as there's been
          
                  
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            some political moves during a convention in ramallah
          
                  
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            mamoud abbas named the first ever vice president
          
                  
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            of the palestinian liberation organization 64 year old
          
                  
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            hussein elshek who has long been considered one
          
                  
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            of abbas's closest aides elshek was born in
          
                  
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            the west bank and spent 11 years in
          
                  
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            an israeli prison in his youth then went
          
                  
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            on to become a veteran politician for the
          
                  
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            fatah movement in 2022 he was named secretary
          
                  
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            general of the plo which oversees the palestinian
          
                  
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            authority and was made responsible for civilian affairs
          
                  
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            at the time the appointment generated criticism that
          
                  
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            he was being groomed to replace abbas but
          
                  
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            elshek insisted he would push for a democratic
          
                  
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            process any future president of the palestinian people
          
                  
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            can only be a president elected by the
          
                  
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            palestinian people through the ballot box the palestinian
          
                  
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            president must be elected the palestinian president will
          
                  
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            not be appointed he will not come to
          
                  
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            power by force or because of some regional
          
                  
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            international interest or arrive on an israeli tank
          
                  
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            abbas has not held elections since 2006 and
          
                  
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            is the president of both the plo and
          
                  
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            the palestinian authority his decision to promote elshek
          
                  
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            as vice president is widely considered a move
          
                  
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            to assure a successor and to appease arab
          
                  
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            and western powers that have pushed for the
          
                  
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            organization's reform and for them to have a
          
                  
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            central role in the post-war governance of
          
                  
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            the gaza strip this guy this hussein elshek
          
                  
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            he's a ghost i mean he's been around
          
                  
            2:56:21
          
          
            but there's nothing you can find on this
          
                  
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            guy yeah and he looks like he looks
          
                  
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            like he's just he looks like he's been
          
                  
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            in the west you know he's just one
          
                  
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            of those guys so to me that says
          
                  
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            moves are getting made they got to put
          
                  
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            someone in place who can't have abbas uh
          
                  
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            he'll be uh yeah they'll have a they'll
          
                  
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            have a vote i'm sure and they'll bring
          
                  
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            him in so i find that encouraging one
          
                  
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            of my friends is in tehran right now
          
                  
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            and he's been sending me pictures man the
          
                  
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            media does such a horrible job of psy
          
                  
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            -oping us about iran i mean it almost
          
                  
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            looks like the iran pictures from the 70s
          
                  
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            you've got modern cars modern buildings lots of
          
                  
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            women without head coverings uh makeup they they
          
                  
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            just look just no this is a lie
          
                  
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            it's they've got a hockey team they've got
          
                  
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            all kinds of i mean it's really it
          
                  
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            looks good it looks take pictures out of
          
                  
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            moscow they're even better well yeah but moscow
          
                  
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            we know but but tehran now it's still
          
                  
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            a it's still a stinking city says it's
          
                  
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            a lot of pollution but it looks really
          
                  
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            modern and beautiful whenever we see iran on
          
                  
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            television it's a bunch of towel heads walking
          
                  
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            around in dust thanks m5m so yeah so
          
                  
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            um so we're currently in negotiations with uh
          
                  
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            with the iranians and i found a report
          
                  
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            on deutsche villa uh about these negotiations staying
          
                  
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            with iran a third round of talks about
          
                  
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            a new nuclear deal between tehran and washington
          
                  
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            has reportedly begun in oman iranian state tv
          
                  
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            showed its delegation in muscat and announced the
          
                  
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            negotiations started midday officials from both sides are
          
                  
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            expected to hold in-depth discussions over how
          
                  
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            to limit iran's nuclear program in exchange for
          
                  
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            the lifting of some of the crushing economic
          
                  
            2:58:18
          
          
            sanctions the u.s has imposed on the
          
                  
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            islamic republic for more i'm joined by nilo
          
                  
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            fargalami from dw's persian service good to see
          
                  
            2:58:27
          
          
            you where do the talks stand right now
          
                  
            2:58:31
          
          
            yeah seems to take longer this time a
          
                  
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            post on x from iran's foreign ministry spokesperson
          
                  
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            says talks continues in a serious atmosphere and
          
                  
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            there's no comment from u.s team yet
          
                  
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            earlier today an iranian official also told reuters
          
                  
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            that the expert level negotiations are a difficult
          
                  
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            complicated and and serious according to both sides
          
                  
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            the latest two rounds were positive and seem
          
                  
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            to be talking about the details on this
          
                  
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            stage and iran's emphasizes particularly on lifting sanctions
          
                  
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            but also there was some reports that iran's
          
                  
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            missile program is an obstacle to progress iran
          
                  
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            has previously said they won't negotiate on defense
          
                  
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            capabilities but we have to wait and see
          
                  
            2:59:19
          
          
            so the question is of course what do
          
                  
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            the iranians want now trump wants a deal
          
                  
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            what does iran want of course they also
          
                  
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            want an agreement because they know that the
          
                  
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            other options are not very pleasant let's not
          
                  
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            forget that the islamic republic is in a
          
                  
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            vulnerable position in these negotiations the regime is
          
                  
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            facing various domestic and international crisis and challenges
          
                  
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            its proxies in the region have been severely
          
                  
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            weakened and the shadow of war hangs over
          
                  
            2:59:52
          
          
            iran in addition to that any agreement that
          
                  
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            only preserve iran's nuclear program is a relief
          
                  
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            as there is a possibility of a complete
          
                  
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            dismantling and then most importantly and the reason
          
                  
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            why i brought up my my friend in
          
                  
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            tehran is what do the iranian people want
          
                  
            3:00:12
          
          
            what about iranians what did they actually want
          
                  
            3:00:15
          
          
            um for them like it might be minor
          
                  
            3:00:18
          
          
            economic relief for example but the iranian people
          
                  
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            have experienced 2015 deal at the time iran's
          
                  
            3:00:25
          
          
            economic situation was not as bad as it
          
                  
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            is today but according to experts even that
          
                  
            3:00:31
          
          
            deal failed to improve the quality of life
          
                  
            3:00:35
          
          
            of iranian people or even change the social
          
                  
            3:00:37
          
          
            situation and freedom in iran instead the government
          
                  
            3:00:41
          
          
            used the additional resources to further strengthen these
          
                  
            3:00:45
          
          
            proxies in the region and suppress its citizens
          
                  
            3:00:48
          
          
            inside iran there are different views on that
          
                  
            3:00:51
          
          
            some are waiting for the final result some
          
                  
            3:00:54
          
          
            are in favor of an agreement and others
          
                  
            3:00:56
          
          
            are pessimistic like for example a large group
          
                  
            3:00:59
          
          
            of iranians consider any aggrament a failure and
          
                  
            3:01:03
          
          
            raise this question of why the iranian people
          
                  
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            should pay the price for the islamic republic's
          
                  
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            policies yeah i think the iranian people well
          
                  
            3:01:12
          
          
            they're more american than we realize of course
          
                  
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            just like the russians yeah well they won't
          
                  
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            be if we bomb them no well no
          
                  
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            they won't be hey i just got a
          
                  
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            new video in so that meeting between president
          
                  
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            trump and president volodymyr zelensky initially they had
          
                  
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            three chairs in the temple and macron thought
          
                  
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            that he was going to be sitting down
          
                  
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            with them and you can see trump like
          
                  
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            you know not shaking his extended hand then
          
                  
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            touching him on the arm and then macron
          
                  
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            leaves and they remove the third chair that's
          
                  
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            interesting well that's interesting yeah that's not that
          
                  
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            has not been reported well no only on
          
                  
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            your no agenda show at almost the end
          
                  
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            of the show i might add um we
          
                  
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            are running late but if you have something
          
                  
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            you want to sneak in there something that
          
                  
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            you think is some shorties i got shorties
          
                  
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            i got a couple of different shorties let's
          
                  
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            do the real id upcoming real id fiasco
          
                  
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            which is going to cause nothing but trouble
          
                  
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            at the airports in just over two weeks
          
                  
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            a major change is coming for air travelers
          
                  
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            across the u.s starting next month the
          
                  
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            tsa will require adults flying domestically to present
          
                  
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            a real id compliant driver's license or other
          
                  
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            approved identification entities christina corona we're standing outside
          
                  
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            of a packed dmv here in the city
          
                  
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            where many people are lining up to get
          
                  
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            their real id before may 7th you may
          
                  
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            begin the process online however you will have
          
                  
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            to finish it at the dmv soon travelers
          
                  
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            will need a real id to board domestic
          
                  
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            flights after the may 7th 2025 deadline it
          
                  
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            will also be required to enter federal facilities
          
                  
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            like military bases and courthouses without a compliant
          
                  
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            id travelers risk being turned away at airport
          
                  
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            security this is part of the real id
          
                  
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            act of 2005 born out of the 9
          
                  
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            -11 commissions push for stronger id standards real
          
                  
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            ids are marked with the store or a
          
                  
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            design like california's bear outline other acceptable ids
          
                  
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            include u.s passports military ids dhs trusted
          
                  
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            traveler cards like global entry and acceptable photo
          
                  
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            ids issued by a federally recognized tribal nation
          
                  
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            indian tribe just to name a few to
          
                  
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            get a real id you'll need documents proving
          
                  
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            your full legal name social security number address
          
                  
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            and legal presence one southern california resident shared
          
                  
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            his experience navigating the process i've been here
          
                  
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            for maybe 20 minutes so not too bad
          
                  
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            um yeah the line's moving pretty slow but
          
                  
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            yeah not too bad a lot of stuff
          
                  
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            was online like they had us upload our
          
                  
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            document like some documents like a birth certificate
          
                  
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            or a water bill to prove you live
          
                  
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            here and um just like basic information like
          
                  
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            address things like that just to prove you
          
                  
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            live here in california the dmv is extending
          
                  
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            hours at select offices including three in the
          
                  
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            bay area on saturday may 3rd to help
          
                  
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            meet the deadline that's so american you can
          
                  
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            show us your social security card or a
          
                  
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            water bill either one is just a water
          
                  
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            bill water bill you know did i tell
          
                  
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            you about my my global entry experience coming
          
                  
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            back into the country um not that i
          
                  
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            can think of so you know so tina
          
                  
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            and i because because you know it's like
          
                  
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            you're a big fan of this but i
          
                  
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            hate it i i hate the idea that
          
                  
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            i had to do it but you know
          
                  
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            we always have to transfer either in atlanta
          
                  
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            or dallas or houston and you know you
          
                  
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            have two hours typically to get from your
          
                  
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            international flight to your domestic flight and you
          
                  
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            know we stood an hour in line for
          
                  
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            an hour and a half when we came
          
                  
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            back from italy and luckily our other flight
          
                  
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            was delayed but it you know it's not
          
                  
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            fun and then you see all these jimokes
          
                  
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            oh i've got i've got global entry i'm
          
                  
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            like i want to be that guy so
          
                  
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            and you get tsa pre-check with it
          
                  
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            as well so i'm completely in the system
          
                  
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            but they give you a card you don't
          
                  
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            need this card you go through the global
          
                  
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            entry you stand in front of the thing
          
                  
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            takes a picture of your face it's all
          
                  
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            integrated boom keep walking and then as you're
          
                  
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            then you as you're walking up towards the
          
                  
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            custom guy says curry you're good to go
          
                  
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            it's the whole system is all facial recognition
          
                  
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            it's all it's all implemented we're all in
          
                  
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            the everyone's it's this is our our future
          
                  
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            life is all facial recognition it's quite disgusting
          
                  
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            so this real id is just a little
          
                  
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            step because when you get your real id
          
                  
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            guess what photo facial recognition it's all going
          
                  
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            to be facial and they don't tell you
          
                  
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            they don't tell you what they're going to
          
                  
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            use it for that's really it's it's gonna
          
                  
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            use it to track you down that's what
          
                  
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            they're going i'm gonna show my salute by
          
                  
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            donating to no agenda imagine all the people
          
                  
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            who could do that oh yeah yeah so
          
                  
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            on thursday hopefully i have a report about
          
                  
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            ashlyn speed i think she's racing today in
          
                  
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            the mazda mx5 action with the no agenda
          
                  
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            car it's a little sticker on the back
          
                  
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            but it's we call it the no agenda
          
                  
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            car but right now as we have tip
          
                  
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            of the day coming up we have some
          
                  
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            commodores we got some nights of course some
          
                  
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            birthdays to celebrate and john's tip of the
          
                  
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            day and our end of show mixes we
          
                  
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            would like to thank the rest of our
          
                  
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            donors who supported us 50 and over yeah
          
                  
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            starting with nicholas uh caribut in sebring florida
          
                  
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            that came in 196 top-notch heating and
          
                  
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            and air conditioning in uh manti utah go
          
                  
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            check them out 125 bucks uh david burn
          
                  
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            in staten island new york 123 45 loves
          
                  
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            his truck he loves what he does uh
          
                  
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            commodore sir mark in warsaw poland one two
          
                  
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            three four five now you're talking all right
          
                  
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            uh agent 99 105 35 uh he wants
          
                  
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            some jingles we don't have i don't know
          
                  
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            about killing the ducks uh poly polywalk 77
          
                  
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            .etsy.com okay damascus oregon 105 35
          
                  
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            uh he's got something to say there's one
          
                  
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            i don't know but yeah he wants his
          
                  
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            brother uh his brother robbie who's called out
          
                  
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            as a douchebag and he needs a de
          
                  
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            -douching you've been de-douched james zuckel tucson
          
                  
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            indiana 100 uh scott merrill in calabasas california
          
                  
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            100 carrie law in warren ohio 100 sir
          
                  
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            uh kevin mclaughlin there he is he's mentioned
          
                  
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            earlier he conquered north carolina 8008 he's the
          
                  
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            arch duke of luna lover of america and
          
                  
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            lover of boobs dd thompson in st charles
          
                  
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            missouri 73 73 73 73s uh sir fat
          
                  
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            dad in north little rock arkansas 69 69
          
                  
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            and he's got a birthday coming up but
          
                  
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            put that on it's on there it's on
          
                  
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            the list it is james frederick frederick uh
          
                  
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            in mcfarland wisconsin 6580 there's a dave smith
          
                  
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            donation dave smith donation which is never funny
          
                  
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            interesting it's never funny ken weinstock in tucker
          
                  
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            georgia 6502 there it is no jingles no
          
                  
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            karma he says but that's a chip donation
          
                  
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            that's the people that know what they're doing
          
                  
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            they make a 6502 donation steven johnson in
          
                  
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            fishers indiana 6161 on behalf of the three
          
                  
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            young human resources tyler henry and sam nancy
          
                  
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            murphy sam bruno 60 sir paul and twickenham
          
                  
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            to escape the hellhole london has become and
          
                  
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            moving out to the countryside sir paul all
          
                  
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            right brother hope it works out you need
          
                  
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            some house buying car we'll give him some
          
                  
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            house buying car at the end we will
          
                  
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            we will eric uh pulse in katie texas
          
                  
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            55 15 uh binger in yankton south dakota
          
                  
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            55 12 another happy birthday to fireball tack
          
                  
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            from binger she turned 12 that's the fireball
          
                  
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            sir our baron anonymous cop there our buddy
          
                  
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            in redwood city 55 10 sean pendergast in
          
                  
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            vista california 55 virginia urzua in oakland california
          
                  
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            55 is another birthday call out for sonia
          
                  
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            craig nuzzo in oswego illinois another birthday for
          
                  
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            brother scott 54 29 a lot of birthdays
          
                  
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            today by the way commodore baron victor in
          
                  
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            corvallis oregon 5404 he's the baron victor of
          
                  
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            the willamette valley window washer in annandale virginia
          
                  
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            5393 uh the donnelly's in up lawn moore
          
                  
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            up lawn moore up law moore up lawn
          
                  
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            a lot of i'm thinking lawn moore uh
          
                  
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            up lawn moore law moore east in uk
          
                  
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            uk 53 33 that's in scotland i can't
          
                  
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            say it oh is scotland yeah oh yeah
          
                  
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            so it is uh kyle tack tack you
          
                  
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            missed kevin adam in clover south carolina 52
          
                  
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            72 also kyle tack in yankton south dakota
          
                  
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            52 72 uh joshua sire uh black creek
          
                  
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            bc canada 52 72 eric ortega sioux falls
          
                  
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            south dakota uh these are all 50 dollar
          
                  
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            donors at 52 72 is with matthew cargo
          
                  
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            and goebbels michigan and waximized in netherlands sir
          
                  
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            loin in winter haven florida 51 50 uh
          
                  
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            sir recalcitrant crazy steve our buddy here in
          
                  
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            santa rosa california 51 50 and by the
          
                  
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            way crazy steve um uh matt long wants
          
                  
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            to talk to you wants you to come
          
                  
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            to the meetup in fredericksburg just saying yes
          
                  
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            you get on the phone get on the
          
                  
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            horn thomas trem in willoughby ohio 51 50
          
                  
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            sam williams in davenport iowa 51 and now
          
                  
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            we get to the uh this is an
          
                  
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            unemployment donation from sam he needs some new
          
                  
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            girlfriend karma we'll give you that at the
          
                  
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            end just have john say new girlfriend karma
          
                  
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            for sam oh i just did um george
          
                  
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            we'd now write the 50 dollar donors just
          
                  
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            the names just the locations there's 10 of
          
                  
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            them george wushu in lavernia texas jacqueline connelly
          
                  
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            in green bagel packers wisconsin uh christopher stable
          
                  
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            stable in forestall missouri he's got a long
          
                  
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            note see if there's anything in there worthwhile
          
                  
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            yes well he um he has more about
          
                  
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            the st louis uh nuclear waste and he
          
                  
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            says a lot of friends and family die
          
                  
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            of cancer very uplifting note um he says
          
                  
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            hbo did a documentary on it called atomic
          
                  
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            home front so i'll watch that i'll go
          
                  
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            take a look at that for sure he
          
                  
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            says please watch maybe rfk jr is an
          
                  
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            op but at least he came here to
          
                  
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            tour our town and hear the story so
          
                  
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            good that's good richard gardner who i believe
          
                  
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            is in new york uh erin wise gerber
          
                  
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            in uh squim washington and last on our
          
                  
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            list everybody we want to thank everyone for
          
                  
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            donating for this show it helps a lot
          
                  
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            rose richardson and she's in tucson arizona uh
          
                  
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            and she wants some goat karma well thank
          
                  
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            you all very much for supporting us those
          
                  
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            are the donors fifty dollars and above again
          
                  
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            thanks to our executive and associate executive producers
          
                  
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            and associate executive producers and to those who
          
                  
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            for reasons of anonymity but you can always
          
                  
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            happy birthday to farron fireball tack turn 12
          
                  
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            on april 22nd dame nicky ray happy birthday
          
                  
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            to her son hayden turns 22 uh on
          
                  
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            the 29th lauren happy birthday to eric bradley
          
                  
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            he turns 29 on april 29th as well
          
                  
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            also celebrating on the 29th is sir fat
          
                  
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            bad he'll be turning 55 and virginia ursua
          
                  
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            says happy birthday to sonia castillo celebrating on
          
                  
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            the 29th and finally craig nuzzo happy birthday
          
                  
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            you gentlemen hookers and blow rent boys and
          
                  
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            chardonnay we've got polo's potato vodka diet soda
          
                  
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            and video games if you want it we've
          
                  
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            got mustard chodi and margaritas redheads and rise
          
                  
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            beers and blunts ruben s rumen and rosé
          
                  
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            geishas and sake vodka vanilla bong it's a
          
                  
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            bourbon sparkling cider and escorts ginger ale and
          
                  
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            gerbils breast milk and pablum but of course
          
                  
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            we're all really here for the mutton and
          
                  
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            the meat mutton and meat always a favorite
          
                  
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            the no agenda round table go to no
          
                  
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            agenda rings.com of course you might meet
          
                  
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            a couple of commodores over there while you're
          
                  
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            checking it out you can see the beautiful
          
                  
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            no agenda night ring it's a signet ring
          
                  
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            so it comes with a couple of sticks
          
                  
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            of wax you can do a lot of
          
                  
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            things with that but we suggest you use
          
                  
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            it to melt down and use the signet
          
                  
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            ring to seal your important correspondence i love
          
                  
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            getting those in the po box and thank
          
                  
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            you again for becoming knights of the no
          
                  
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            agenda round table well you
          
                  
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            heard it the no agenda meetup crews they
          
                  
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            support each other we had servido of course
          
                  
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            whose wife passed away and the no agenda
          
                  
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            meetup crew there is uh is surrounding him
          
                  
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            with love and compassion and we just love
          
                  
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            hearing that that is exactly what you get
          
                  
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            at no agenda meetup these are the people
          
                  
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            who will be your first responders in an
          
                  
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            emergency connection gives you protection at the no
          
                  
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            agenda meetups you can find them all at
          
                  
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            no agenda meetups.com and we have one
          
                  
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            meetup report it's a little long but man
          
                  
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            this is a this is a record for
          
                  
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            leo bravo this is his 62nd los angeles
          
                  
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            meetup the flight of the no agenda and
          
                  
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            here is the report with 20 people hey
          
                  
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            everybody this is for munch nuts here fissing
          
                  
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            my nuts here with uh everybody here in
          
                  
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            la uh greetings to the gnomes of zurich
          
                  
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            this is ceramic jar in the morning hi
          
                  
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            in the morning patrick here meant to write
          
                  
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            in a note i forgot my instant ring
          
                  
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            it is in the mail it's on its
          
                  
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            way in the morning crackpot and buzzkill this
          
                  
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            is lady chinaka of california i'm your pberry
          
                  
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            sticking it out in california with john c
          
                  
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            and the wonderful people here at the la
          
                  
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            meetup cheers to the best podcasters in the
          
                  
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            universe in the morning this is commodore kirk
          
                  
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            thanks adam john uh for all the media
          
                  
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            assassinations over the years no agenda is a
          
                  
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            blessing thank you guys hi this is julie
          
                  
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            i'm having a great time at my first
          
                  
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            no agenda meetup in the morning this is
          
                  
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            dame laura of the golden mean dropping in
          
                  
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            from washington state to the fine people in
          
                  
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            la in the morning this is the other
          
                  
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            scott horton the one nobody talks about uh
          
                  
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            having a great time at our meetup here
          
                  
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            um with leo bravo and a few others
          
                  
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            that i came with um great times we're
          
                  
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            missing you here uh adam and john in
          
                  
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            the morning this is brian just living all
          
                  
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            of my childhood fantasies of being a pilot
          
                  
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            planes good trains bad but trains are probably
          
                  
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            fine too hi this is greta and i'm
          
                  
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            here with my boys tommy and dev i
          
                  
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            don't know where they are they fucked off
          
                  
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            but anyway um we love you guys thank
          
                  
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            you so much leo for having these awesome
          
                  
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            meetups hi this is devil and angel um
          
                  
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            have a nice day in the morning everyone
          
                  
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            this is tommy here this is my this
          
                  
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            is my um team time at a meetup
          
                  
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            uh i want to thank you john and
          
                  
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            adam for continuing your uh podcast in the
          
                  
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            morning john and adam this is donna this
          
                  
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            is my first meetup and i'm also a
          
                  
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            listener of curry and the keeper shout out
          
                  
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            to tina and adam um thanks so much
          
                  
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            we love the show this sir leah kim
          
                  
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            faux pop happy earth day guys and just
          
                  
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            remember earth day has the same day as
          
                  
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            vladimir lenin's birthday think about it what's going
          
                  
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            on with all these planes we want more
          
                  
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            trains quiet you imbeciles i'm listening to no
          
                  
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            agenda well there you go record numbers out
          
                  
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            there in los angeles that's fantastic we have
          
                  
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            a couple of meetups taking place this week
          
                  
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            on thursday the northern wake publical slave gathering
          
                  
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            kicks off at six o'clock at potluck
          
                  
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            hoppy endings in raleigh north carolina and the
          
                  
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            south austin slaves on slaughter meetup huh at
          
                  
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            little woodrows in south park meadows i don't
          
                  
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            i don't know about this one nick delhi
          
                  
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            is doing that seven o'clock on thursday
          
                  
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            so of course i can't make it because
          
                  
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            it's after a show on show day and
          
                  
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            you do need to rsvp many more meetups
          
                  
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            can be found at the no agenda meetups
          
                  
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            website no agenda meetups.com give it a
          
                  
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            shot go check it out you certainly want
          
                  
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            to they're global they have meetups all over
          
                  
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            the world if you can't find one near
          
                  
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            you start one yourself it's guaranteed a party
          
                  
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            that's for sure now
          
                  
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            i'm looking at my quad screen here would
          
                  
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            you believe oh man the more things change
          
                  
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            the more they stay the same do you
          
                  
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            know what's happening right now on capitol hill
          
                  
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            filibuster booker and jeffries are holding a sit
          
                  
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            -in oh not a sit-in a sit
          
                  
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            -in they're holding a sit-in we're sitting
          
                  
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            and we're not gonna budge it's like me
          
                  
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            holding a sit-in in my living room
          
                  
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            oh i'm gonna hold a sit-in until
          
                  
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            people change their ways what are you doing
          
                  
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            if it's not on msnbc it's not a
          
                  
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            sit-in my friend you've got to get
          
                  
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            the cameras on you all right time to
          
                  
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            choose the iso for the end of the
          
                  
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            show i only have one i don't think
          
                  
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            it's i mean it's okay but uh i
          
                  
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            think you're gonna knock me out of the
          
                  
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            park here i see you have one two
          
                  
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            three you've got four so i'll just play
          
                  
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            mine and then we'll pick one of your
          
                  
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            winners okay sure you know what dvorak says
          
                  
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            he says bullcrap there you go that's uh
          
                  
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            that's no i knew okay so these are
          
                  
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            all the ss and you'll see the reason
          
                  
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            why when you start listening to them okay
          
                  
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            and we'll start at the bottom uh because
          
                  
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            once there's a dupe in here that was
          
                  
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            done twice done by one of our uh
          
                  
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            one of our special producers and this will
          
                  
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            start with bozos these two guys are not
          
                  
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            bozos oh scott simon nice these two guys
          
                  
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            are not bozos that's pretty close for ai
          
                  
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            these two guys are not bozos except the
          
                  
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            end okay what else you got podcast that's
          
                  
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            what i call a great podcast we need
          
                  
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            to say i'm scott simon we need him
          
                  
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            to tag himself all right what else you
          
                  
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            got well then it'd be i think it
          
                  
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            was borderline illegal already you think i'm pretty
          
                  
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            sure uh we'll get a note uh so
          
                  
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            now we have a variation of the same
          
                  
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            one because our producer decided that he's gonna
          
                  
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            it's a guy who does scott simon he's
          
                  
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            got this he's got a lot of what
          
                  
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            you're saying this is not ai this is
          
                  
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            a guy no these are all ai oh
          
                  
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            okay but the producer who does scott's the
          
                  
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            scott simon materials is from his ai oh
          
                  
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            okay he's trained trained to train the voice
          
                  
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            train the model yes and it's a good
          
                  
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            model uh in fact the the one with
          
                  
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            the horn is is his okay here we
          
                  
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            go something one wow that was something right
          
                  
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            and two wow that was something right i
          
                  
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            still like that's what i call a great
          
                  
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            podcast i think that's the best one okay
          
                  
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            i like it a lot i like it
          
                  
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            so much that i'm gonna start the tip
          
                  
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            of the day jcd
          
                  
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            a lot of people want me to do
          
                  
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            some generalized wine tips i'm gonna do one
          
                  
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            a wine tip finally a wine tip yes
          
                  
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            we all we all love the wine this
          
                  
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            is a type of wine i'm going to
          
                  
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            discuss a type of wine it's a sweet
          
                  
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            wine that people should check out and they're
          
                  
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            available if you go to another if you're
          
                  
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            in a town where there's a liquor store
          
                  
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            that we have a wine guy who knows
          
                  
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            anything that you're doing you'll probably find an
          
                  
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            example of this product it's a rhone wine
          
                  
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            it's a sweet wine and i've discussed on
          
                  
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            the show sauternes which is i think one
          
                  
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            of the great sweet wines that you have
          
                  
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            the the one that's that's what you get
          
                  
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            the ladies with you the ladies love this
          
                  
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            they love this and then there's also german
          
                  
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            sweet wines that are worth noting noting which
          
                  
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            include um baron auslase and trocken baron oh
          
                  
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            the truck and baron yes truck and barons
          
                  
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            are very expensive and it means a baron
          
                  
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            auslase it means it's a late harvest of
          
                  
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            specific berries and trocken baron auslase is a
          
                  
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            wine that is dried there's basically raisins turned
          
                  
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            into wine uh and there's another type of
          
                  
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            german sweet wine called an ice wine which
          
                  
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            doesn't really hold a candle i don't think
          
                  
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            to these other two but the wine i'm
          
                  
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            going to promote which is an inexpensive obscure
          
                  
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            wine that you can find anyone who knows
          
                  
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            anything about wine will know about this balmes
          
                  
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            de venice can you spell that for the
          
                  
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            b-a-u-m-e-s-d-e
          
                  
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            -v-e-n-i-s-e balmes de
          
                  
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            venice and balmes de venice and it's used
          
                  
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            and sometimes referred to as muscat balmes de
          
                  
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            venice but the appellation i believe is balmes
          
                  
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            de venice but it's a muscat wine that
          
                  
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            is incredibly sweet and and it's not super
          
                  
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            sweet that's it's not a sickening sweet wine
          
                  
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            it's just a incredibly floral like the best
          
                  
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            it's a very specific muscat grape called the
          
                  
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            orange muscat and it's only pretty much i
          
                  
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            mean muscats are very variety of muscats are
          
                  
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            grown all over the place a lot of
          
                  
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            them are table grapes but this particular grape
          
                  
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            which is a specialty of this area makes
          
                  
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            a fabulous product this muscat balmes de venice
          
                  
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            is a killer a killer wine and if
          
                  
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            you see it try it how much can
          
                  
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            we expect to pay for the balmes de
          
                  
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            venice 15 bucks maybe that's that's the price
          
                  
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            that's that that's what makes it a great
          
                  
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            tip of the day and you're not an
          
                  
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            expense not an expensive rare expensive wine like
          
                  
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            like a half ball of trockenbeeren auslase that
          
                  
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            can cost you 150 and what do we
          
                  
            3:27:19
          
          
            uh do we drink the balmes de with
          
                  
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            dinner or uh after dinner after dinner and
          
                  
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            it's perfect with almost any dessert and uh
          
                  
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            do you drink it in a big wine
          
                  
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            glass one of those little petite thingies you
          
                  
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            could drink it in anything you want in
          
                  
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            a paper cup it doesn't matter the stuff
          
                  
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            is really good there it is tipoftheday.net
          
                  
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            noagendafund.com well
          
                  
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            you may have to wait for things but
          
                  
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            you get such a fabulous tip of the
          
                  
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            day at the end it just makes it
          
                  
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            all worth it doesn't it i like it
          
                  
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            i'm gonna go out and get me a
          
                  
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            balmes de venice balmes balmes balmes de venice
          
                  
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            and iran it's a beautiful thing coming up
          
                  
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            next on the no agenda stream for all
          
                  
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            2400 of you i don't know how many
          
                  
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            are left we've got random thoughts random thoughts
          
                  
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            on the stream so make sure you check
          
                  
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            that out uh we have two brand new
          
                  
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            mixes we've got hugh allison and he's been
          
                  
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            around for a long time as has danny
          
                  
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            loose who also returns to the end of
          
                  
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            show mixes we love it when you guys
          
                  
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            do that we really do and of course
          
                  
            3:28:36
          
          
            we will return on thursday with another media
          
                  
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            deconstruction extravaganza right here on the no agenda
          
                  
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            show and as always you do it as
          
                  
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            a public service so please remember us at
          
                  
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            noagendadonations.com until then coming to you from
          
                  
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            fredericksburg texas right here in the texas hill
          
                  
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            country in the morning everybody i'm adam curry
          
                  
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            and from northern silicon valley where we're hoping
          
                  
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            the sun comes out sometime soon it hasn't
          
                  
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            happened for a week i'm john c devore
          
                  
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            we return on thursday again remember us noagendadonations
          
                  
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            .com until then adios mofos a hui hui
          
                  
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            and such okay boomer how you doing out
          
                  
            3:29:18
          
          
            there when i was a kid one of
          
                  
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            those days where it just seems like everybody's
          
                  
            3:29:23
          
          
            getting on your case from your teacher all
          
                  
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            the way down to your best girlfriend it's
          
                  
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            all dope well you know i used to
          
                  
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            have him just about all the time in
          
                  
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            my day but i found a way to
          
                  
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            get out of it yeah but that that
          
                  
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            was the end of it let me tell
          
                  
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            you when i was a kid i remember
          
                  
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            there was two things that it was interesting
          
                  
            3:29:43
          
          
            to switch over there was like when i
          
                  
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            was a kid it was a big deal
          
                  
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            that kids got caught smoking in the bathroom
          
                  
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            when you were a kid your parents kept
          
                  
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            you in the but i'm still stunned and
          
                  
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            they're everyone's bitching about it they said they
          
                  
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            should have never begun by the time i
          
                  
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            was out of college it was like oh
          
                  
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            no nobody smokes but they smoked pot in
          
                  
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            the bathroom now all of a sudden they
          
                  
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            went from smoking cigarettes to pot in the
          
                  
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            bathroom cervical cancer is back i made my
          
                  
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            son's get it immediately because they don't know
          
                  
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            anything they do not have knowledge and who
          
                  
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            the hell is not conscious i get it
          
                  
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            not no no no not just not conscious
          
                  
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            they don't know anything really obvious why anyone
          
                  
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            would pay for jack gpt plus at all
          
                  
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            i made my son's get it immediately pretending
          
                  
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            to be outraged they make mistakes oh you
          
                  
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            want to use our money 20 million on
          
                  
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            a new sesame street show in iraq to
          
                  
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            combat disinformation in kazakhstan that's the kind of
          
                  
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            thing that you should get fired from a
          
                  
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            company if they should bring you out the
          
                  
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            door with providers we're using nabla nabla is
          
                  
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            the ai software company we have to fight
          
                  
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            this in the congress we have to fight
          
                  
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            this in the streets i made my son's
          
                  
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            get it immediately no not this nabla not
          
                  
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            to boot you out the door you don't
          
                  
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            have thoughts you don't even know how these
          
                  
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            things fully
          
                  
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            and
          
                  
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            then ran it in the worst way i
          
                  
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            made my son's get it you