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May 18th • 3h 17m

1765: Pro-Mortalist

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Hi, I'm your lackey from Russia.
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Adam Currie, John C.
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Devorah.
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It's Sunday, May 18, 2025.
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This is your award-winning Gibbon Nation Media
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Assassination Episode 1765.
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This is no agenda.
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Counting 8,647 days since 9-11.
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Broadcasting live from the heart of the Texas
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Hill Country here in FEMA Region No.
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6.
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In the morning, everybody.
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I'm Adam Currie.
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And from Northern Silicon Valley where we're wondering
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why anyone would name their kid Keir.
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I'm John C.
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Devorah.
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It's Craig Vaughn and Buzzkill.
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In the morning.
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Wow, nice modulation.
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As in Keir Starmer.
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That is a good question.
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It's not a great question, but it's a
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good question.
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Why would you name your kid Keir?
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My kid's name is Keir.
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Well, I looked it up.
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Keir means little dark one.
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No.
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Yeah.
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Wow.
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Wow.
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Well, you know who would name their kid
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Keir.
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I think it also means thistle or brush
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or something like that.
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No, I'm sticking with definition number one because
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the only...
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Yeah, that is definition number one.
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Little dark one.
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The only person...
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It's Gaelic, by the way.
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The only person who would name their kid
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Keir, little dark one, would be...
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Satan?
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Hello, Dana Carvey.
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Can't help myself.
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Can't help myself.
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So I'm looking at the quad box.
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Looking at the quad box.
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And I didn't have...
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What?
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Which brings me to the story I'd like
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to introduce.
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Because of the quad box.
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Okay, can I talk about what's on the
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quad box?
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Then you can introduce the story of the
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quad box?
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Yeah, I'm pretty sure I know what's on
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the quad box, but go ahead.
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What's on the quad box?
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Well, the same five stories that's on all
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the quads.
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No, there's only four.
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There's not five in the quad.
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That would be a quint box.
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It's a quad box.
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The story is the guy who blew up
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the fertility clinic in Palm Springs.
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By the way, I've not heard from the
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anonymous gay accountant who I did text this
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morning because he lives there.
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Well, I'm glad you used the story exactly
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the story I wanted to talk about because
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I have some input.
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Can I play the presumptive news reports about
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it first?
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Well, wait.
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Because you have the latest one.
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No, I don't.
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I don't have the latest.
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I have yesterday's, but it's okay.
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We'll do yours.
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Oh, I have yesterday's too.
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No, you really want to talk, so please.
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I do want to talk.
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You do.
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You talk.
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This is the boring one.
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Yours will be better than this.
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Maybe.
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SoCal IVF bombing.
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In California, the FBI says an explosion this
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morning near a reproductive clinic in Palm Springs
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was deliberate.
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This was an intentional act of terrorism.
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As our investigation will unfold, we will determine
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if it's international terrorism or domestic terrorism.
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That's Akeel Davis, the assistant director of the
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FBI's Los Angeles field office.
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He says one person died and they're working
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to identify them.
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Several others were injured.
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Davis also says the FBI has a person
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of interest, but that they aren't actively searching
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for a suspect.
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He says it's one of the largest bombings
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in Southern California.
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The explosion damaged several buildings and left blocks
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littered with debris.
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Palm Springs Police Chief Andy Mills says they're
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dealing with a massive crime scene.
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A doctor at the clinic, Maher Abdallah, says
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the building is damaged, but the IVF lab
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eggs and embryos are okay.
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The FBI and ATF are joining local police
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in investigating this bombing.
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There's no word on a motive.
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Well, I have the clip with a motive.
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I thought that was the whole beauty of
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this whole setup that I was doing that
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you interrupted.
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No, that's why I started with the lousy
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clip.
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I said it was not going to be
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as good as yours if you hadn't noticed.
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No, I noticed your clip was lousy.
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Totally.
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Okay, can I play mine or do you
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have something you'd like to introduce?
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No, my stuff is all to be read.
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The unthinkable happened in the Desert Resort.
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No, wait, just stop a second.
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No, that was the nat pop.
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So this clip is already a fake clip
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because nobody had a recording of the bomb.
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Totally, they made a nat pop right up
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front.
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It's awesome.
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These people are so bad.
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The unthinkable happened in the Desert Resort known
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as Palm Springs.
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A massive bomb blast set off in or
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near a car.
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It's not really called Palm Springs, it's just
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known as?
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Where did this clip come from?
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I think this is...
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Sounds like NBC.
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Yeah, I think it's local.
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Oh, local.
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I think it's KTLA actually.
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So it's a Los Angeles clip.
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Massive bomb blast set off in or near
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a car, killed one person and injured several
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others in what the FBI calls an act
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of terrorism.
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They say the target was a fertility clinic
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and in vitro fertilization lab, which involves fertilizing
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eggs with sperm outside the body.
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Federal agents are now trying to determine who
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did this and why.
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If you look at terrorist movements, terrorist groups,
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violent extremist groups in the past, even violent
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extremist individuals in the past, often they will
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have a list of targets.
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Cal Kemper is a retired Marine Corps intelligence
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officer who has worked with and trained law
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enforcement personnel in the Palm Springs area.
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There's a variety of things that don't necessarily
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make the news, but there's a variety of
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threats and other things that they work on
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out there.
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Oh yeah, I'm in the know.
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They'll be looking at a broad array.
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Burning questions.
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Was the person killed in the blast also
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the one who triggered it?
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Was this domestic or international terrorism?
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Was the perpetrator attempting to record or live
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stream the carnage?
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We know this.
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The clinic's mission is to help build families,
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and those families include members of the LGBTQ
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community, a group that has historically faced a
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level of backlash.
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There are violent extremists out there who have
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very strong views about IVF, which is something
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that they do at that clinic, and also
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about surrogacy, which is something they do at
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that clinic.
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And that particular reproductive clinic is in the
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Palm Springs area.
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Palm Springs is kind of known as a
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center for LGBTQ residents.
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I think a little less than half the
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population, by some estimates, is LGBTQ.
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So all the news reports, oh no, this
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has got to be, must be a crazy
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Republican, it's got to be some nut job
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terrorist because he hates IVF.
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Christian nationalist, turns out some 26-year-old
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soy looking boy who says he's anti-life.
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He wants less people on the planet.
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Sounds like the opposite to me.
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So they immediately jumped to conclusions on this
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one.
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It's even worse than that if you go
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to the New York Times, and some of
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the other papers that blame the Southern Baptists.
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This is great.
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I have a Jonathan Karl ABC.
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Let's see what Jonathan Karl says.
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We begin with what authorities are calling an
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intentional act of terrorism.
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ABC's chief.
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I just love that they knew that right
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off the bat.
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That was an intentional act of terrorism.
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They didn't have anything yet on this person
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as far as I know, but they came
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out right away, terrorism.
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Investigative correspondent Aaron Koturski has the very latest
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on an explosion Saturday outside a fertility clinic
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in Palm Springs, California.
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Good morning, Aaron.
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What do we know?
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What do we know?
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What are you learning?
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John, good morning to you.
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This blast was so powerful that at first
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people in Palm Springs thought this might have
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been an earthquake, but then they quickly saw
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the flames and smoke and damage from what
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appears to have been a car bomb.
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It exploded right outside a fertility clinic.
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American reproductive centers, which said nobody from its
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staff was hurt, and the eggs, embryos, and
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other reproductive materials in its lab are secure
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and undamaged.
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One person is dead, law enforcement sources told
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ABC News.
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It's believed to be the suspect.
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Investigators were seen searching a location connected to
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the attack.
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IVF has become entangled in the political debate
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over reproductive rights, and the FBI said the
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clinic was targeted in an intentional act of
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terrorism.
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Investigators also found, John, recording equipment, a camera
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and tripod, suggesting that perhaps the attack was
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meant to be either recorded or live-streamed
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to make some kind of a political statement.
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And Aaron, what is the Justice Department saying
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about this?
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Yeah, what does Pam say?
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We heard from Attorney General Pam Bondi.
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She told us in a statement we are
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working to learn more, but she said, let
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me be clear, the Trump administration understands that
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women and mothers are the heartbeat of America.
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Violence against a fertility clinic is unforgivable.
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President Trump has pledged to expand access to
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IVF, but he has faced backlash from some
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in the Christian conservative movement who are opposed
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to the loss of embryos during the process.
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I'm telling you, up until this morning.
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White Christian nationalist extremist terrorists.
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Oh, I'm sorry.
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It's a soy boy who's nuts.
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Let me read from the- Yeah, New
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York Times.
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No, let me read from this, one of
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our producers who put together a report.
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Oh, excellent.
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The suspect behind the bombing in Palm Springs
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today has been identified as Guy Edward Bartkus.
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Was that mentioned in any of these news
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reports?
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No, this just came out this morning, so
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I don't think you had- you got
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this this morning, right?
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This report.
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No, I got this yesterday.
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Really?
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They're only just now reporting it.
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Interesting.
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He's from 29 Palms.
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He's a self-described pro-mortalist.
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Sorry, that's a new term, pro-mortalist.
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Who was angry because he felt- this,
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by the way, is all on Instagram.
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Of course.
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And it could be inaccurate, but at least
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it's interesting, and it gives us some possibilities,
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because there's some interesting- there's funny stuff
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in here, if you want to call it
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funny.
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Yeah.
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He was angry because he didn't give consent
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to anyone to bring him into the world.
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Oh, man.
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In a 30-minute audio recording he posted
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online- I don't have that.
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No.
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He made the following statements, quote, I figured
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I would just make a recording explaining why
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I've decided to bomb the IVF building or
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clinic.
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He said at the beginning of the recording,
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quote, basically it just comes down to I'm
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angry that I exist.
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Wow.
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And that, you know, nobody got my consent
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to bring me here.
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Now, by the way, this is- this
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is- the word's not going to be
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used, but this is a kind of-
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you know, we say, oh, this is terrible.
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This is nihilism.
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I have the guy.
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Which was very popular in the early 1800s.
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I have the video whenever you're ready.
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I can play a little bit of that,
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of the guy.
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Okay, well, let me just finish.
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Yeah, sure.
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I'll just finish the recording.
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Yeah, sure.
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One, yeah, that's good.
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I'm very much against IVF.
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It's extremely wrong.
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There are people who are having kids after
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they've sat there and thought about it.
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How much more stupid can it get?
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I don't know.
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That makes no sense.
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This is also- and then our producer,
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who's- he knows why I'm going to
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not name him.
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Because then you'll hound him.
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He's one of our regulars.
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This also came from local news describing a
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portion from his FAQ on his website.
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In the facts section of his website, he
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further explains that his best friend, Sophie, shared
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similar views and recently died after convincing her
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boyfriend to shoot her in the head as
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she slept.
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Wow.
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Oh, man.
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We had agreed that if one of us
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died, the other would probably soon follow, Bartkus
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wrote.
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Now, I looked that up.
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In fact, I'll read this part.
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His description seemed to match the death of
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27-year-old Sophie Tinney.
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I looked her up in Fox Island, Washington
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on April 22nd.
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Police arrested her boyfriend, 29-year-old Lars
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Eugene Nelson, and believe Tinney convinced Nielsen-
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No, Nelson.
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Convinced Nelson to shoot her in the head
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as she slept.
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Nelson was charged with second-degree murder.
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You can look this case up.
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That's exactly what happened.
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This dumb shit.
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And Lars, by the way, looks like a
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big, dumb Viking who's like a young guy
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with a lot of hair and his dish
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doesn't look that bright, whose girlfriend obviously said,
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Honey, can you shoot me in the head
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while I'm sleeping?
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Sounds reasonable.
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And he did.
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So, she's sleeping there, his girlfriend, this is
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his girlfriend, and he just pulls the trigger
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and they believed all these stories and I
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guess somebody knew who this girl was who
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was obviously a lunatic and so that takes
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care of her and this guy's gonna go
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to jail and then we got this other
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guy who may or may not have blowed
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himself up.
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This is ridiculous.
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Yeah.
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I wonder if any SSRIs or any kind
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of antidepressants were involved in this case.
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You think?
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Yeah.
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They're all Gen X.
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She was 28 or 27.
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She's 27.
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These are all right at the cusp of,
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at the very beginning of I'm sorry, Z,
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Gen Z.
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Z, yes.
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Gen Z.
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Z ends at 28 or 29 right now.
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It's pathetic.
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And I think they're all drugged up.
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Because this is idiotic.
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Actually, I thought I had the video but
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it's already no longer available.
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We waited 30 seconds and it's gone now.
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Well, you're blaming me?
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No, no.
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I'm blaming the platforms.
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Oh, we can't have that out there.
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I don't know why they don't want to
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let this information out.
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I'm with you.
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That makes no sense.
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But it makes sense if you think of
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it as the following.
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You're in the meeting.
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You say, look, is this going to encourage
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more kids to be this way?
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Why don't we just suppress it and leave
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it out of the news?
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Yeah.
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Well, this is on one hand, of course.
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We don't need another nihilist movement by a
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bunch of stone-drugged up Gen Z lunatics.
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Well, that's exactly the issue.
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I mean, okay, so luckily no one else
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was hurt.
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But it speaks of a much larger problem.
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We have a nihilistic movement.
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If people are doing this and they're posting
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stuff like that and, hey man, kill me
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in my sleep, this is a problem?
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You know, even the bombing is one thing,
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but this girl talking her boyfriend into shooting
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her in the head while she's sleeping is
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insane.
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Well, I think it's drug-induced, but then
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legal, I'm just guessing, legal clinical prescribed drugs.
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I can't think of anything else.
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That's what spawns this.
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That's the real tragedy here.
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It's like, okay, this is what happens.
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It's bad.
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Big pharma.
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Luckily, are we done with this topic?
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I'm done with it.
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Yeah, I'm done with it too.
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Although this won't be the end.
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Well, actually it will be the end of
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it because it wasn't a Christian, a white
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Christian nationalist nut job terrorist.
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Oh well.
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Yeah, they'd have to do some real creativity
16:14
here.
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It's like, oh, there could be an entire
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epidemic of nihilistic children who are on SSRIs.
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No, that's not worth reporting.
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If it wasn't.
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Southern Baptist Church, yeah.
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Is that not worth, what?
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Let's back up.
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The pharma companies own the media.
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It's never going to get reported.
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Of course not.
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Of course not.
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You won't hear that anyplace else.
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No.
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And thank you, Matthew.
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Unfortunately, once a year, we have to do
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it.
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There's just no getting around it.
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It's a staple of the No Agenda show.
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We don't have to discuss it very much,
16:52
but we do have a winner of the
16:54
2025 Eurovision Song Contest.
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Emotional scenes, as Austrius JJ was declared the
17:05
winner of Eurovision 2025.
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With his operatic pop song, Wasted Love, JJ
17:10
topped the votes from music experts and viewers
17:13
from across the continent and beyond.
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Speaking after the announcement, the 24-year-old
17:17
from Vienna said he was still processing the
17:20
news.
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This is absolutely insane.
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My dreams came true.
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This is out of this world, so thank
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you so, so much, guys.
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Thank you, guys.
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You can tell he's an influencer.
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I'm sorry, I missed.
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Who won?
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Austria.
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JJ from Austria.
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Thank you.
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It marks Austria's third win in the contest
17:39
after Conchita's victory in 2014 and Udo Joergi's
17:43
win in 1966.
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In second place was Israel's Yuval Rafael, a
17:48
survivor of the October the 7th Hamas attacks,
17:50
with her performance of New Day Will Rise.
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Pro-Palestinian groups had called for the European
17:55
Broadcasting Union to bar Israel from the competition
17:58
over the war in Gaza.
17:59
A view not shared by some Israelis watching
18:01
the contest.
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Two demonstrators tried to get on the stage
18:04
during Rafael's performance, but were prevented from doing
18:07
so by security officials.
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Third on the leaderboard was Estonia's Tommy Cash,
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with Sweden and Italy clinching fourth and fifth
18:14
place, respectively.
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So none of the suspected frontrunners actually made
18:19
it into the top three, and I'm not
18:21
sure what the political angle of Austria is,
18:24
because it usually is politically motivated.
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Is there anything that could...
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Anything that we can expect from Austria?
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It's a mystery.
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I've got to find this note one of
18:39
your compatriots from Holland sent me, complaining about
18:44
this segment.
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And you, in particular.
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Okay, do you want me to take a
18:51
little break while you search for this note?
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No, I don't want you to take any
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break.
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People are complaining about this segment.
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I'm hoping to find it, but I've got
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all these impediments.
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Don't make me play the hook of the
19:03
song.
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Oh, too late!
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I barely stayed up I know it's terrible.
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Wait, this is why he won.
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That's it.
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Oh, because he can sing in falsetto?
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Yes, this is exactly right.
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People are so used to trash muck AI
19:29
and or what is it?
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Auto-tune, that when they hear someone who
19:34
can actually sing Oh, oh, oh!
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The guy's gonna win!
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He can actually sing!
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He's got a falsetto!
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Whoa!
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Here's the note.
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Oh, here we go.
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From Lowe's.
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Adam claimed Adam claimed without evidence.
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This is a nasty note, but I think
19:56
it was funny.
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Did you reply to this person and say,
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why don't you email Adam?
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I always do that.
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Yeah, well, okay.
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The person did not email me.
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Adam, they don't want to email you because
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you're gonna get mad.
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My reputation precedes me, I see.
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Yes, it does.
20:17
Adam claimed by the way, you know what
20:21
I think of that word.
20:22
Yeah.
20:23
All streets will be empty on the evening
20:25
of the Eurovision Song Festival cause everybody will
20:29
be watching.
20:31
Obviously, he moved out of the country decades
20:33
ago.
20:35
From all the people I know, only my
20:39
72-year-old mother watches that lame show.
20:44
It's only watched by a bunch of women
20:47
of a certain age, some gays, and Adam.
20:54
Some gays and Adam.
20:56
There's a show title.
20:58
Some Gays and Adam.
21:00
Yes, okay.
21:01
It's not only unwatchable, the music makes your
21:05
eardrums shrivel up and if that isn't enough,
21:07
the satanic symbols are being noticed by more
21:11
people every year.
21:13
I will give you credit for that.
21:15
You've been noticing the satanic symbols for at
21:17
least over a decade.
21:18
That's why I watch.
21:19
Although I couldn't watch yesterday.
21:21
I recorded it.
21:23
By the way, this year should be the
21:25
final nail on the coffin because they're sending
21:28
a Congolese refugee with a French song.
21:32
There is nothing left of what was once
21:35
the intention of the festival.
21:37
Even my mom complains about it.
21:41
Everybody who I know who watched, which is
21:44
pretty much everybody and I know this because
21:47
the Europeans use WhatsApp.
21:49
You're not supposed to say WhatsApp.
21:50
You say, WhatsApp.
21:53
I'm in WhatsApp text groups and they're giving
21:56
me blow-by-blow like, oh, this sucks.
21:58
This is horrible.
21:59
They really dislike this year's show but they
22:02
watched and these are not 70-year-old
22:04
ladies.
22:08
They're gay.
22:10
That's right.
22:11
My gay WhatsApp groups.
22:13
That's exactly it.
22:14
You're gay.
22:15
We always suspected you had a gay WhatsApp
22:17
group to get some information.
22:19
One, just one.
22:21
Hey, the thing I'm worried about is the
22:22
anonymous gay accountant.
22:24
He didn't text me back.
22:26
I'm worried that...
22:27
He's probably doing taxes.
22:29
It's still part of the team.
22:31
Well, maybe he's getting like Sir Anonymous from
22:38
Alien.
22:39
Over time, we alienate everybody.
22:42
We try.
22:44
Now we're anti-Muslim.
22:48
That's so unfair.
22:50
I thought so.
22:51
I don't think he meant us, by the
22:53
way.
22:53
I think he just meant the trolls.
22:56
The trolls hate the Jews.
22:59
The trolls hate everybody.
23:01
That's kind of the beauty of the trolls.
23:03
They hate everybody.
23:04
It's not a big deal.
23:07
That's true.
23:07
I agree.
23:09
Do you want to go into something rather
23:13
interesting and high-heavy?
23:15
I thought the pro-mortalist or whatever the
23:20
hell he was was pretty interesting.
23:23
Pro-mortalist.
23:25
It's sad.
23:26
I'm really sad.
23:27
There you go again.
23:29
I got another note about you being this
23:31
way.
23:31
Well, no.
23:33
I defended you because producers are complaining a
23:39
lot recently.
23:40
Have you noticed this?
23:41
Yes, I have.
23:42
We're doing it wrong.
23:43
This is the main thing I'm learning.
23:45
Whatever we're doing, it's wrong.
23:48
I always like to look them up on
23:50
the database.
23:52
We have a database.
23:53
Did the toxic empathy guy donate?
23:57
No, of course not.
23:59
Of course not.
24:00
That's okay.
24:01
Contributing to the show with complaints is a
24:03
kind of value.
24:04
It's an odd form of value, but it's
24:06
value.
24:07
It's valuable in some way.
24:11
No, actually, I have a small series of
24:17
clips by Andrew Rassoulis about the Istanbul non
24:21
-meeting.
24:22
You like Rassoulis.
24:25
Do I?
24:26
Yeah, that's the former Canadian defense guy.
24:29
He is good.
24:31
He's a good analyst.
24:32
This reminds me, I have some analyst clips
24:35
too.
24:36
Mine are lousy though.
24:37
Let's do mine since yours are lousy.
24:41
What happened is nothing happened.
24:44
Putin didn't go, which of course meant Zelensky
24:46
didn't go.
24:47
Putin did send some lackey to Istanbul.
24:50
They were supposed to have a face-to
24:51
-face.
24:51
I'm your lackey from Russia.
24:53
I do want to ask you about what
24:55
constitutes a good deal for Russians and for
24:57
Ukrainians, but first I want to talk to
24:59
you about what happened, what transpired this past
25:00
week, which was the meeting in Istanbul that
25:05
just didn't happen when it came to both
25:07
major leaders.
25:08
Putin, who first proposed the talks, did not
25:10
attend them and neither did Zelensky.
25:12
What does it signal when even the leaders
25:14
at the center of the conflict refused to
25:16
meet?
25:17
Putin's emissary that he sent in his stead
25:20
was a minister of culture and heritage, not
25:23
typically a high-ranking official that you would
25:26
send to such a meeting.
25:27
What does this tell us?
25:28
It means the Russians are negotiating from a
25:30
position of strength.
25:32
They're showing strength by actually playing around with
25:35
who they send, lowering expectations, raising, lowering.
25:39
That's playing your opponent and that's what they're
25:41
doing.
25:41
They played Zelensky in a way.
25:43
Zelensky came to Istanbul.
25:46
Putin didn't.
25:47
He sent an ex-minister of culture there
25:50
who actually harangued the Ukrainians and saying we
25:54
fought the Swedes for 21 years.
25:55
How would you like that?
25:58
That's what the Russians are doing.
25:59
They're playing hardball, as they always do in
26:01
negotiations.
26:02
We're going to see where this goes.
26:05
The Russians are not desperate for a peace.
26:08
They will agree to a peace again, I
26:10
repeat, as long as they get most of
26:12
what they want, if not absolutely everything.
26:14
That, of course, means that we're sort of
26:16
a neutral type Ukraine.
26:18
They're going to keep the 20% of
26:20
the territory of East Ukraine.
26:21
That's pretty much a given.
26:22
Everybody understands that.
26:24
The delicate balance is what happens to that
26:26
80% and therein lies the puzzle that's
26:29
being hammered out probably tomorrow.
26:31
Yes, tomorrow is the big phone call.
26:33
But let's move to the new news, which
26:35
is not coming up.
26:36
He said that he will talk to Vladimir
26:39
Putin at 10 a.m. on Monday followed
26:42
by a conversation with Vladimir Zelensky.
26:44
Has anyone been successful in talking Vladimir Putin
26:48
specifically into anything?
26:50
I mean, what do you make of that,
26:51
of this proposal?
26:52
First of all, I think it's really good
26:54
news.
26:56
Two, I think Trump understands how to deal
26:59
with Putin in the sense that he understands
27:02
that Putin, you just can't put pressure on
27:04
him.
27:04
You can't put him in a corner.
27:05
It's well known that Putin does not react
27:07
well when he's cornered.
27:09
However, Putin does understand pressure and incentive.
27:14
So the art of real negotiations, which Trump
27:17
also understands.
27:19
And so I think we've come to the
27:20
point now in the negotiations that basically Putin
27:25
is looking for the deal now.
27:28
He's prepared to make a deal.
27:29
He just wants a good deal.
27:31
And basically that's not what the Ukrainians want.
27:33
So Trump is trying to figure where that
27:36
line is and those conversations tomorrow back to
27:39
back.
27:40
So Putin at 10, Zelensky after that, other
27:42
NATO people after that.
27:44
So he's going to try and work something
27:45
out.
27:46
Putin at 10, Zelensky at 11, Margarita at
27:50
noon.
27:51
This is going to be a series of
27:52
calls.
27:54
So...
27:55
By the way, I have just a tease.
27:58
This is just the opposite of the analysis
28:01
clips I have from NPR where they just...
28:04
Yes, of course.
28:05
That's why this guy, this Canadian guy is
28:07
good.
28:08
He's pretty accurate.
28:09
Yes, and so when the question comes up,
28:12
what does Russia actually want?
28:13
He has answers.
28:14
So let's talk a little bit about the
28:16
specifics here.
28:17
I mean, we are talking about, we know
28:19
that a long time stipulation from Vladimir Putin
28:22
was that Ukraine not be allowed to join
28:24
NATO because he will feel like he's surrounded
28:26
by enemies.
28:28
He will be.
28:29
Secondly, are we talking about the disputed territories?
28:32
When it comes to the most recent conflict,
28:35
Donbass, Donetsk, but are we talking about Crimea
28:38
as well?
28:39
Well, Crimea is a given.
28:41
I mean, from a Russian side, they're not
28:42
even talking about that one.
28:43
I mean, they incorporated that in 2014-15
28:46
and that, from a historical point of view,
28:49
the Russians firmly regard that as being Russia.
28:53
So the Ukrainians, of course, will not recognize
28:56
that and there will be a saw off
28:58
on that.
28:58
You're a de facto, but the more delicate
29:01
one is on the four other oblasts and
29:04
the Russians don't control all of them.
29:06
They control bits and pieces, well, substantial parts,
29:09
but not all and the Russians want all
29:11
of them.
29:12
They want it right up to the administrative
29:13
line, which means Ukrainians are going to have
29:16
to pull back and that's what the Russians
29:18
told the Ukrainians in Istanbul on Friday.
29:21
They want them to pull back right to
29:22
the administrative lines, giving up some cities along
29:25
the way.
29:26
That, of course, Ukrainians said is a non
29:28
-starter and that's where we are.
29:30
It's so interesting to watch the trolls, the
29:33
notorious anti-Israel Jew haters.
29:35
That's just what I call them.
29:37
They may not hate Jews but they're anti
29:39
-Zionists.
29:40
Well, because, you know, there's a genocide in
29:42
Gaza.
29:43
When it comes to this, like, eh, just
29:45
let Putin roll over and wipe out all
29:47
of Ukraine in six months, it'll be over.
29:49
Who cares?
29:50
So they're pro-Russian, the trove people.
29:53
I don't know.
29:53
I think they're and I think they're nihilists
29:56
is what I think.
29:57
I think they're nihilists.
29:59
What was the term?
30:01
Anti...
30:02
What was that guy?
30:02
Pro-mortalist.
30:03
Pro-mortalist, yes.
30:05
Trump has said, by the way, nothing's going
30:07
to happen on the talks until Putin and
30:09
I get together, which seems to imply an
30:12
actual meeting, face-to-face meeting, rather than
30:15
a phone chat that's going to happen on
30:18
Monday.
30:18
So what's that?
30:19
What do you think is the likelihood of
30:20
that meeting happening anytime soon?
30:22
That'll depend on Monday.
30:23
I mean, in Istanbul, the Ukrainians asked the
30:27
Russians, they want Zelensky to meet Putin, but
30:30
also in the background is that Trump would
30:33
meet with Putin as yeah, Trump would meet
30:36
with Putin as well.
30:37
So that's all very much part of an
30:40
endgame scenario.
30:42
It's very realistic.
30:43
If this war comes to an end, that's
30:45
what will have to happen.
30:47
So now we'll have to see.
30:48
The phone calls on Monday are kind of
30:50
a prep to see, is there room to
30:53
maneuver here?
30:54
This is the big boys now talking.
30:56
Big boys!
30:56
So they're going to see, is there room
30:57
to maneuver?
30:58
Do they have a deal?
31:00
And if not, then I'm afraid we're in
31:02
for a long war.
31:03
But we're not there yet necessarily.
31:05
There's still hope here.
31:06
I love this guy's take.
31:08
I mean, he's I think he's so right
31:10
on with this.
31:11
This is the big boys.
31:13
Trump and Putin, they're going to talk it
31:15
out.
31:15
And of course, President Trump has some carrots
31:18
and he has some sticks.
31:19
You mentioned earlier that you suspect Trump will
31:23
use...
31:23
Where did you get this clip?
31:25
CBC.
31:27
Oh, okay.
31:27
Yeah.
31:28
You mentioned earlier that you suspect Trump will
31:31
use pressure and...
31:33
Believe me, American news media does not call
31:36
Andrew Asulis for any analysis of the situation.
31:40
No, sir.
31:41
No, I can prove that in the next
31:42
few clips.
31:42
Yeah, I'm looking forward to it.
31:44
Which I think is like a carrot and
31:45
a stick in a more regular person's vernacular.
31:49
What are you laughing, girl?
31:51
What are we talking about?
31:53
I mean, certainly sanctions presumably, economic pressures, anything
31:57
else?
31:58
Yes.
31:58
So what I think...
32:00
It's already been stated that the conversation tomorrow,
32:03
Monday, between Trump and Putin will involve not
32:07
just the Ukraine issues, but issues of trade.
32:11
And issues of trade implies sanctions relief of
32:14
some sort.
32:15
So that's the way it's been defined.
32:17
So the Russians are certainly looking for sanctions
32:19
relief, and increasing some kind of bilateral trade
32:22
with the United States.
32:24
Ever since the Americans started to talk to
32:26
the Russians under Trump, underlying all these discussions
32:30
has been the issue of economic trade between
32:34
the United States and Russia, which implies sanctions
32:36
relief, which from a Russian point of view,
32:38
would be a big incentive.
32:41
Yeah.
32:41
Yeah.
32:42
I like this guy.
32:44
I like the idea of trading with Russia.
32:46
They've got different kinds of products that would
32:48
be fun to have.
32:48
Minerals, man!
32:49
What other products would be fun to have?
32:51
Babushkas?
32:55
Nesting dolls.
32:56
Nesting dolls, yes.
32:58
That'd be cool.
32:59
Now, they have a lot of agricultural products.
33:02
They have butters and things that are unique.
33:04
Butters.
33:04
They got butters.
33:05
Butters.
33:06
Hmm.
33:07
They have crazy drinks.
33:11
They have crazy drinks.
33:12
What do you mean?
33:13
Oh, well, they have kvass, which is my
33:15
favorite.
33:16
Kvass.
33:16
Well, there's a bunch of them.
33:17
I mean, there's a Russian store in the
33:19
city, and I go there every so often.
33:20
Have you ever had kvass?
33:22
Yeah, I have.
33:24
It's like a malt product.
33:25
Yeah, it's a malt product.
33:27
It's undrinkable, to be honest about it.
33:29
No, I really like it.
33:30
Iceland has a similar product, which is yuck.
33:34
No, I like the kvass.
33:35
Yeah, I can see how you like it.
33:37
It's somewhat semi-refreshing.
33:38
Yes.
33:40
Like Russia itself.
33:41
Semi-refreshing.
33:42
Semi-refreshing.
33:44
Yeah, Russia.
33:44
I've been to Moscow.
33:45
Semi-refreshing.
33:46
It was alright.
33:48
So you don't have NPR.
33:50
You have PBS clips on Ukraine.
33:51
Not NPR.
33:52
I'm sorry.
33:52
These are PBS.
33:53
Yeah.
33:53
Okay.
33:53
But wait.
33:55
What difference does it make?
33:57
Well, as we all know...
34:00
Oops, that's not it.
34:01
Where'd it go?
34:02
Where's my elitist voice?
34:05
Elitist Voices of America.
34:08
This is NPR.
34:10
Or PBS.
34:11
For perspective on the state of play of
34:14
the negotiations between Russia and Ukraine, we turn
34:16
now to Andrew Weiss.
34:18
He's a former State Department official who served
34:20
in the George H.W. Bush and Clinton
34:22
administrations.
34:23
He's now the Vice President for Studies at
34:24
the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace.
34:27
Andrew, always great to see you.
34:28
Great to see you.
34:28
So those peace talks today wrapping just shy
34:30
of two hours.
34:31
A historic prisoner swap, but no ceasefire, no
34:34
major breakthroughs.
34:35
What do you see here?
34:36
Is this progress?
34:37
This process is about an audience of one.
34:40
Both sides are trying to appeal to President
34:42
Trump and avoid being blamed for the process
34:45
not going anywhere.
34:46
So the Ukrainians have gone great far, taken
34:49
a lot of steps to agree to an
34:52
unconditional 30-day ceasefire, to agree to meet
34:55
with the Russians, and to sort of play
34:58
nicely with this administration.
35:01
The Russians, who have given no ground, and
35:04
in fact, as you heard from Nick Schifrin
35:06
just a moment ago, are actually expanding their
35:08
demands, also want to look like they're nice
35:11
people and that they're serious about peace.
35:13
They're not, and as we heard just a
35:16
moment ago, they think time's on their side.
35:18
Yeah, you're right.
35:19
It's worthless.
35:22
An audience of one.
35:25
This guy, Andrew Weiss, try finding anything about
35:29
him.
35:29
He works for both Bush and Clinton, that
35:32
tells you something right there.
35:34
Works for a Republican and Democrat.
35:37
He has no profile.
35:39
He's been done a lot of heavy-hitting
35:42
stuff.
35:43
He's got no profile at all on Wikipedia.
35:46
Is it Weiss or Weissman?
35:49
Weiss.
35:50
Andrew S.
35:52
Weiss.
35:53
Yes, I see him here.
35:55
And then you can try to find, he
35:57
does have a profile on LinkedIn, which tells
35:59
you nothing.
36:01
And so this guy's a spook of some
36:04
sort.
36:05
Vice president for studies and James family chair
36:10
of the Carnegie Endowment.
36:13
Graphic novel out now.
36:15
Accidental czar.
36:17
The life and lies of Vladimir Putin.
36:21
Yeah, so he's not a, obviously why would
36:23
you put him on?
36:24
He's obviously not a Putin fan when he
36:25
wrote the life and lies of Vladimir Putin
36:28
as his book.
36:29
But let's put him on because he's going
36:32
to give us some objective reality.
36:35
But that's what PBS wants.
36:37
PBS has turned into a huge anti-Trump
36:40
operation.
36:42
This is new?
36:43
It's worse.
36:45
Ever since Gwen Ifill passed away.
36:47
No, but even more recently ever since they
36:50
started pulling funding, they've just turned it.
36:52
Screw this guy.
36:54
They're taking our 1% funding away.
36:59
It may turn out somehow that that was
37:01
a lot more than 1%.
37:02
It seems to me.
37:04
It could be.
37:05
It's sure whining a lot.
37:06
Maybe USAID or something.
37:10
You don't whine this much about 1%.
37:12
Now, no agenda show.
37:14
We're only 1% donates.
37:16
You know.
37:18
We whine.
37:18
We whine.
37:21
We do.
37:22
We whine a lot.
37:22
People did meet up yesterday like, you're really
37:24
scaring me.
37:26
You're really scaring me.
37:27
Yeah.
37:28
I know the reaction.
37:31
You're really scaring me.
37:33
Why?
37:35
Well, we'll talk about this later.
37:37
We'll talk about it later.
37:38
Let's go to clip 2.
37:40
By the way, it just gets worse.
37:42
In another post, President Trump said he hopes
37:44
a ceasefire in Ukraine will be the result
37:47
on Monday when he has separate phone calls.
37:50
Is this part 2 of the series of
37:53
anals?
37:55
Oh, I'm sorry.
37:58
Okay.
37:59
It was a little mislabeled.
38:01
The first one was Ukraine anal PBS.
38:07
Then there's Ukraine anal 2A.
38:10
But what is Ukraine Russia calls Trump PBS?
38:13
I'm a little confused.
38:15
I'm sorry.
38:16
I guess I should call it.
38:18
Ukraine anal Russia bad.
38:21
Oh, of course.
38:22
I could have known.
38:23
So we know Vladimir Putin was not at
38:27
these meetings.
38:28
You heard President Zelensky say that that is
38:30
a sign that Putin is not serious about
38:32
wanting a ceasefire.
38:33
You agree with that assessment?
38:34
Yes.
38:36
Exactly the opposite of Rassoulis.
38:38
He's like, no, that's how big boys play.
38:41
I send a little dude in the background.
38:43
I'm doing some negotiation.
38:45
Art of the deal, baby.
38:46
Artsky of the deal, Donald.
38:50
Just yes.
38:51
Yes.
38:52
Putin bad.
38:53
He lies.
38:54
Lies of Putin.
38:55
I wrote a book about it.
38:56
By the way, this guy's degree is from
38:58
Columbia.
38:59
He's in Russia studies.
39:00
He went to Russia.
39:01
One of his jobs was to interview and
39:04
do a dossier, I guess, on every single
39:08
Russian oligarch.
39:09
Very strange character.
39:11
But he's just obviously a stooge.
39:13
And why does PBS have him on?
39:16
So let's go with 2A.
39:18
The Russians at this point have very maximalist
39:20
goals.
39:21
Those goals amount essentially to the wiping Ukraine
39:24
off the map.
39:25
That's what they want.
39:27
They want Ukraine to disappear and to become
39:29
forcibly reintegrated into Russia's orbit.
39:32
At any point, does he say full-scale
39:34
invasion and Kiev a number of times?
39:36
Would that be in this?
39:37
I don't know if he does or not,
39:39
but this is bull crap.
39:41
The Ukrainians are not in any position where
39:44
they're desperate for a deal.
39:46
And I think this White House in part
39:48
is hampered in its peacemaking efforts because they
39:50
have a misunderstanding of where things are on
39:52
the ground.
39:53
They believe Ukraine's in a dire situation, desperate
39:55
for a deal.
39:56
And they think that the Russians, if the
39:58
United States were to cut off military assistance
40:00
again to Ukraine, could roll over Ukraine in
40:03
short order.
40:04
Both those, unfortunately, are not the case.
40:06
Ukraine is in a bad situation, but the
40:10
defense is inherently favored in this war.
40:12
They've been able to expand their own defense
40:15
production capabilities.
40:16
So a lot of what they need, drones,
40:18
artillery, things like that, they can now produce
40:20
at home.
40:22
They're seriously in need of continued US military
40:24
and intelligence support.
40:26
They also have- important requirements, including for
40:29
air defense, that they can't replace on their
40:32
own.
40:32
You heard this audience of one, as you
40:34
referred to him, President Trump, yesterday as he's
40:36
traveling in the Middle East, say that nothing
40:38
is going to happen until he and Putin
40:40
speak directly.
40:42
Do you agree with that?
40:42
And what do you think would come of
40:44
that kind of meeting?
40:45
The Ukrainians and the Europeans are really worried
40:47
that any bilateral agreement between the United States
40:50
and Russia could be rammed down Ukraine's throat
40:52
and rammed down Europe's throat.
40:53
So there's a desire to make sure that
40:55
the United States president doesn't set off in
40:58
a spontaneous way, as we've seen him do
41:00
in other foreign policy matters, where he sort
41:02
of runs around, makes spontaneous decisions, does things
41:05
on the fly.
41:06
This is a very dangerous, delicate moment for
41:10
the Ukrainians.
41:10
They don't want to see a peace deal
41:12
that's agreed behind their backs.
41:14
At the same time, Donald Trump, I think,
41:17
has been bending over backwards to avoid putting
41:20
blame on Vladimir Putin.
41:22
So asking for a meeting is now just
41:24
the next sort of way of kicking the
41:26
can and avoiding the moment of decision that
41:29
Trump had promised us, where he said, if
41:31
I can't get this settled within my first
41:33
100 days, I'm going to walk away.
41:35
That's the moment we're waiting for Trump to
41:37
reveal what walking away means.
41:39
Season of reveal.
41:41
Only because I'm new to this that I
41:45
bring it up, but the audience of one,
41:48
I don't know if there's a subtle subtext
41:50
to this, but in the white Christian nationalist
41:53
extremist terrorist world, the audience of one is
41:56
used frequently, and it doesn't mean Donald Trump.
42:00
Just something of note for me.
42:05
I don't know if they're using that as
42:07
subtext.
42:09
I don't know what the subtext of any
42:11
of this guy's commentary is.
42:13
Well, she says it, too.
42:15
She said, audience of one.
42:16
The audience of one.
42:20
This guy's a bad guy.
42:24
Yeah.
42:26
But he got a lot of airtime.
42:28
Bridget Brink published just today.
42:29
Well, yeah, he got a lot of airtime
42:30
on PBS, which is a bad operation.
42:33
It's worse than ever.
42:36
Bridget Brink published just today in this op
42:38
-ed in the Detroit Free Press.
42:40
She basically said she resigned last month because
42:42
of Trump's foreign policy after serving three years
42:45
in Ukraine.
42:46
She wrote this.
42:47
I cannot stand by while a country is
42:49
invaded, a democracy bombarded, and children killed with
42:52
impunity.
42:53
I believe the only way to secure U
42:54
.S. interest is to stand up for democracies
42:56
and to stand against autocrats.
42:59
Peace at any price is not peace at
43:01
all.
43:01
It is appeasement.
43:03
Is President Trump here pursuing a policy of
43:06
appeasement?
43:07
I think he is, and I think the
43:09
risk is that the policy that we had
43:11
in place when Donald Trump became president focused
43:14
on unity with the Europeans, common cause with
43:17
the Ukrainians, and showing the Russians that they
43:19
can't get what they want and that we
43:21
would build leverage over time to get them
43:23
to see that this was a hopeless goal,
43:25
that they were never going to get Ukraine
43:26
back.
43:27
Well, that's exactly the old globalist thinking.
43:29
That's exactly what's been going on and has
43:31
not been working for decades.
43:34
Show the Russians they can't get what they
43:35
want instead of, well, why don't we figure
43:38
out a way to live together, which I'm
43:41
all for.
43:43
Everybody actually is.
43:45
There's a lot of except for these guys,
43:48
these stooges.
43:48
Now, do what you mind, is that the
43:50
end of the clip?
43:51
Yes, that was the end.
43:52
So, Pence was on Meet the Depressed this
43:56
morning.
43:57
Pence?
43:58
Pence.
43:59
Okay.
44:00
He lives.
44:01
So old Black Hands was chatting with him
44:05
and she says...
44:06
Man Hands, I think is what you meant
44:07
to say.
44:08
Man Hands.
44:09
And she says, she's talking to him and
44:11
he comes up with, you know, he felt
44:13
bad that he doesn't like it when a
44:15
president puts down, and of course this is
44:20
kind of a callback to Obama giving his
44:22
speeches overseas, where the president puts down the
44:28
USA.
44:30
And what he's specifically referring to was Trump's
44:34
criticism of our previous policies of previous presidents
44:43
of nation building, which was in his big
44:47
speech in Riyadh.
44:49
And he says, this is no good because
44:51
we don't do it.
44:52
We can't do it.
44:53
We do it.
44:54
We suck at nation building and every time
44:56
we go in there, we just ruin places
44:58
and this has got to stop and we
45:00
got to let people do their own thing.
45:01
Well, it's also because we don't actually go
45:03
in for nation building.
45:05
That's a farce.
45:06
We don't.
45:07
It's for rubbalizing.
45:08
It's rubbalizing.
45:08
We don't go in for the, here's some
45:10
democracy.
45:11
Uh-huh.
45:13
And I found that to be, that is
45:15
going to be, this was a signal to
45:18
me, and I think this guy's speech was
45:20
too.
45:21
This is a signal of what's next.
45:23
Trump is anti-American because he's...
45:27
Oh, yes.
45:28
I think you're spot on.
45:30
You nailed it.
45:32
And I can back you up.
45:33
I'm sure you heard about Bruce Springsteen in
45:36
Manchester.
45:38
Yeah, duh.
45:41
So, you might have seen him.
45:43
I heard the whole thing, which is long.
45:45
Yeah, but the...
45:46
He was being booed, by the way, by
45:48
the crowd who wanted to use it.
45:49
They didn't want to hear this.
45:50
Well, that's debatable.
45:54
Well, it's debatable, but if you're going to
45:56
a rock concert, you don't want to hear
45:58
some guy lecturing you about the policies of
46:00
their country.
46:01
Well, no, you don't.
46:03
Particularly because if you go to Manchester, and
46:06
you get in an Uber, a friend of
46:07
mine was just there, the first thing the
46:10
Uber or the cab driver will say is,
46:12
hey, so how's it going with Trump?
46:14
Wish we had a guy like Trump here.
46:17
That's what the people on the street are
46:18
saying.
46:19
But the thing is, Bruce Springsteen certainly during
46:24
my days of hey embodied America.
46:29
He embodied the American spirit.
46:33
It was like he was the working man,
46:35
he was the down at the docks, he
46:38
was the guy.
46:39
And now he's just an elitist cuck.
46:42
And what's that in your mouth?
46:44
It's unbelievable.
46:45
I mean, I have to play, because he
46:48
did three different things, and he started off,
46:51
and let me just play a little bit
46:52
of this.
46:52
So this is the beginning of, he did
46:55
the three different stop the sets.
46:58
Good evening!
47:02
Philadelphia!
47:05
It's great to be in Manchester and back
47:07
in the UK.
47:11
Welcome to the Land of Hope and Dreams
47:14
Tour.
47:16
Can you believe this?
47:18
The Land of Hope and Dreams Tour.
47:21
Okay, Bruce.
47:22
The mighty E Street Band is here tonight
47:25
to call upon the righteous power of art,
47:29
of music, of rock and roll in dangerous
47:33
times.
47:35
Dangerous times, authoritarianism.
47:38
But to listen, and we can stop it
47:41
whenever we want, we can comment on it.
47:43
The amount of lies and, well, I don't
47:46
think he's lying.
47:47
I think he truly believes that this is
47:49
taking place because he's in his California bubble.
47:52
Bruce, Bruce, come back.
47:56
Come back down.
47:58
Come on, man.
47:59
He's been in California for a while now.
48:02
Come back to Tom's River.
48:04
Come back to the Stone Pony.
48:06
Bruce, come back to the Jersey Shore.
48:08
You've been contaminated.
48:12
Easy, Roy.
48:14
There's some very weird, strange, and dangerous shit
48:21
going on out there right now.
48:24
Dangerous?
48:24
Yeah, in the country you're actually in, Bruce
48:26
Springsteen.
48:28
That's where some very dangerous stuff is going
48:30
on.
48:30
You're right.
48:33
In America, they are persecuting people for using
48:40
their right to free speech and voicing their
48:42
dissent.
48:44
No, I don't think so.
48:48
This is happening now.
48:51
Troublemakers who are spooks.
48:54
That's the problem.
48:58
In America, the richest men are taking satisfaction
49:03
in abandoning the world's poorest children to sickness
49:08
and death.
49:09
Now, where does this come from?
49:11
Where are the world's richest men taking satisfaction
49:15
in the poorest children dying?
49:17
Sitting around, smoking cigars, saying, how many kids
49:20
did we kill?
49:25
This is happening now.
49:27
Right now.
49:29
In my country, they're taking sadistic pleasure in
49:33
the pain that they inflict.
49:35
Sadistic pleasure?
49:36
Are you confused with the Grammys, Bruce?
49:40
This is sadistic pleasure?
49:42
In my country, they're taking sadistic pleasure in
49:47
the pain that they inflict on loyal American
49:50
workers.
49:51
When it comes to Bill Gates and Soros,
49:55
maybe, but I don't think that's who you
49:57
meant.
49:58
They're rolling back historic civil rights legislation.
50:02
What is he talking about?
50:06
What's historic civil rights?
50:07
Rolling back historic civil rights.
50:10
Maybe he'll explain.
50:12
That led to a more just and plural
50:14
society.
50:16
They're abandoning our great allies.
50:21
Our great allies.
50:24
Because they've gone nuts, that's why.
50:27
And siding with dictators.
50:30
Putin!
50:31
Against those struggling for their freedom.
50:37
Dude, I totally need someone to just be
50:39
playing keyboards while I'm doing a rap here.
50:43
That is pretty awesome.
50:45
They're defunding American universities.
50:48
Who have hundreds of billions of dollars in
50:50
endowments they don't pay taxes on.
50:52
That won't bow down to their ideological demands.
50:58
Well, man.
51:01
They're removing residents off American streets.
51:06
Residents.
51:06
Oh, by the way, he's reading this.
51:08
This whole thing is on teleprompter.
51:10
Yeah, this is the joke of it.
51:11
He can't even memorize it.
51:13
The whole thing is on teleprompter.
51:14
He keeps looking down.
51:16
Residents.
51:17
You know what?
51:19
If you're a resident in any other country
51:21
and you're not a legal resident, you get
51:23
removed.
51:24
And without due process of law are deporting
51:30
them to foreign detention centers and prisons.
51:34
This is all happening now.
51:38
Yay.
51:39
Meanwhile, we're at a 400 pound a ticket
51:42
show.
51:44
A majority of our elected representatives have failed
51:50
to protect the American people from the abuses
51:54
of an unfit president and a rogue government.
51:58
Rogue government?
52:00
Listen to them.
52:01
They're like, yeah, that's like us.
52:03
You like us.
52:04
President and a rogue government.
52:07
Oh, wait.
52:08
You're not talking about Kier?
52:09
Oh.
52:12
I know they're convinced about Kier Starmer being
52:14
in the topic here.
52:16
They have no concern or idea of what
52:20
it means to be...
52:22
Maybe this whole thing was ironic.
52:25
I felt it was.
52:27
And in a way, he's actually bitching about
52:29
the UK.
52:30
Well, I think a lot of them there
52:32
took it that way.
52:33
Like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
52:35
We got a rogue government here.
52:37
The problem is his background indicates otherwise.
52:40
He was going to leave the country if
52:42
Trump won.
52:43
Twice.
52:44
Twice.
52:45
Well, he did leave it.
52:46
He's in England, as we speak.
52:47
When he left New Jersey, as far as
52:49
I'm concerned, when you go to California, you
52:51
left the country.
52:53
They have no concern or idea of what
52:56
it means to be deeply American.
52:59
The America that I've sung to you about
53:04
for 50 years is real.
53:07
It's real.
53:08
And regardless of its faults, it's a great
53:12
country with a great people.
53:14
Alright.
53:16
Justice is like, no.
53:17
That's sadistic.
53:18
They take great pleasure in seeing children go
53:21
hungry and die.
53:22
I don't think so, boss.
53:25
That's so...
53:26
What I heard there, and I watched all
53:29
three of his little ditties, that really hurt
53:31
me.
53:33
Why did it hurt you?
53:34
Are you friends of his?
53:35
I grew up with Bruce Springsteen.
53:37
I was proud of Bruce Springsteen.
53:39
I promoted Bruce Springsteen music in the Netherlands
53:42
when no one wanted to hear about it.
53:44
Like, eh, that's Jersey stuff.
53:46
I don't care about it.
53:47
I love Bruce Springsteen.
53:49
That whole Born in the USA, you see
53:52
him with his blue jeans on, he's got
53:55
his little bandana hanging out of his butt
53:57
pocket.
53:58
No.
54:00
That's just not him anymore.
54:02
It's sad.
54:03
He has turned his back on America.
54:08
He just doesn't realize it.
54:09
Ever since Patti Skelfer, man, I hate to
54:12
say it, but...
54:13
Who?
54:14
Ever since he married the tambourine girl.
54:19
He was married and he got divorced and
54:21
he ran away with the girl who plays
54:23
the tambourine.
54:23
That's his wife now, Patti.
54:24
And that started it, you think?
54:26
Oh, that's when it started.
54:27
I mean, that's like the Yoko of Bruce
54:28
Springsteen.
54:29
It definitely happened to Rob Reiner when he
54:32
married his current wife.
54:34
Yeah.
54:35
He went completely off the rails.
54:39
So we live in such an...
54:40
So it's the women's fault.
54:41
That's what you're saying.
54:44
Isn't it always?
54:46
It's always, yeah.
54:48
Like you never said anything behind my back
54:50
about my second wife.
54:51
I'm sure you did.
54:52
Oh, man, she's ruining the show.
54:54
She's ruining the show.
54:56
Actually, you probably thought it enhanced the show.
54:59
So we live in an...
55:01
Speaking of irony, in an upside-down world,
55:05
yesterday was International Day Against Homophobia.
55:11
And I caught a...
55:14
I thought, wait, hold on a second.
55:15
Before you even go there, I want you
55:17
to play this clip, because I don't...
55:19
That's not my understanding.
55:21
Here's the real what's going on.
55:23
World Pride Festival Day Month.
55:26
Well, yes, it may be World Pride Month,
55:28
but yesterday was the actual International Day Against
55:35
Homophobia.
55:36
By the way, I haven't seen the proclamation
55:38
on the White House, but I'll just presume
55:39
that President Trump did that.
55:41
And World Pride festivities kicked off today in
55:43
Washington, D.C., this year's host community.
55:46
The biannual celebration...
55:47
Host community?
55:49
What does that mean?
55:51
It's a host community.
55:53
And by the way, when you listen to
55:54
this report, is it really about gay people
55:58
or trans people?
56:00
Oh, of course.
56:02
And World Pride festivities kicked off today in
56:04
Washington, D.C., this year's host community.
56:07
The biannual celebration is being held against the
56:09
backdrop of the Trump administration.
56:11
Biannual, does that mean once every two years
56:13
or twice a year?
56:15
It could mean either one.
56:18
The biannual celebration is being held against the
56:20
backdrop of the Trump administration's moves against the
56:23
LGBTQ community.
56:26
Bastards.
56:26
They're making moves.
56:28
They're making moves.
56:29
Nice moves.
56:30
On the National Mall, the American Civil Liberties
56:32
Union and other groups unveiled a massive collection
56:35
of quilts.
56:36
The panels were handmade by transgender people and
56:39
their families.
56:40
There it is.
56:40
Previous World Pride events have been a boon
56:42
for the host nation's tourism.
56:44
But this year, several countries, including Germany, Ireland
56:47
and Denmark, have issued official travel warnings for
56:50
their citizens who are transgender or non-binary.
56:54
Yeah, this actually will result in homophobia.
56:57
That's what's going to happen.
56:59
It's because the gays, the gays I know,
57:01
the gays, they don't like this.
57:03
They're just tired of the trans stuff.
57:06
They're really, especially gay guys.
57:07
They're now like third world citizens of the
57:10
community.
57:12
Their status has dropped to the floor.
57:14
To the basement.
57:16
Get out of here, gay guy.
57:19
We're talking to trans over here.
57:21
She, it, she, it, she, she, they, they're
57:24
more important.
57:25
It's going to be L-T-Q-B
57:28
-G.
57:29
They're going to move them to the back
57:31
of the alphabet.
57:32
You watch, you watch, gay guys, but also
57:37
women, they don't like this.
57:40
They're tired of this nonsense.
57:42
And they feel it's actually hurting the movement
57:44
that they fought for, for so long.
57:47
Anyway.
57:47
So the European Union decides to celebrate International
57:51
Day Against Homophobia.
57:53
And, so they, they start raising a flag.
57:57
And it's a very intricate flag.
57:59
It's got rainbow colors and triangles and circles.
58:02
And the first thing I thought is, there's
58:05
no L-G-B-T-Q nation.
58:09
I mean, can we just, do they put
58:11
up flags for anything next to nation flags?
58:14
Is there not some flag rule against this?
58:17
That's peculiar.
58:19
And they do this flag with the circle
58:21
and all the other gimmicks on there.
58:23
I mean, the original gay community flag was
58:27
kind of artsy.
58:29
And this thing's just, it's monstrous.
58:32
It's anything but artsy.
58:36
So, and I'm listening to this, and I'm
58:38
just like, this is an upside down world.
58:40
So she's talking about conversion therapy, which was
58:42
a thing probably during the first Trump administration.
58:45
Who's talking about conversion therapy?
58:47
Well, this woman who's on Deutsche Welle, who
58:49
you're about to hear, who was brought on
58:51
to talk about the, you know, homophobia.
58:53
It's the International Day Against Homophobia.
58:55
And she's talking about conversion therapy.
58:57
Now, if you don't know where conversion therapy
59:00
comes from, I don't know if it's such
59:03
a big thing anymore, but it was blown
59:05
up into a big story.
59:07
Oh, these church people, they're converting the gays,
59:10
trying to make them straight.
59:12
So, is that any different than a teacher
59:14
who's a non-binary converting a normal child
59:18
at the age of eight into being trans?
59:22
Is that different than that kind of conversion?
59:24
That's kind of a conversion, isn't it?
59:26
That's exactly my point.
59:27
The difference being, I don't know if you
59:29
can find a conversion therapy clinic in the
59:32
phone book, but you can sure Google as
59:35
a Planned Parenthood everywhere who's going to give
59:37
your kid hormone blockers and anything else you
59:39
want.
59:43
No, hormone therapy.
59:44
Whatever.
59:45
So, you can look at conversion therapy either
59:47
way.
59:47
So, when I was listening to this, for
59:49
a moment there, I thought, what is she
59:51
talking about?
59:52
And then I was like, holy cow.
59:54
Today, many people around the world are marking
59:56
International Day Against Homophobia, Biphobia, and Transphobia.
59:59
A day dedicated to raising awareness of rights.
1:00:02
Biphobia?
1:00:03
Why wouldn't biphobia show up?
1:00:06
The bi's were like, hey, hey, hey, everybody's
1:00:09
getting a good deal against us.
1:00:12
I want some phobia.
1:00:13
I want some biphobia.
1:00:16
Today, many people around the world are marking
1:00:18
International Day Against Homophobia, Biphobia, and Transphobia.
1:00:21
This is new.
1:00:22
You're right.
1:00:23
Good catch.
1:00:23
I didn't hear that when I was clipping
1:00:25
it.
1:00:25
Biphobia.
1:00:27
I have never seen a biphobia person.
1:00:30
In fact, most guys are like, hey, woman,
1:00:33
you're biphobic?
1:00:34
You're biphobia?
1:00:34
Oh, okay.
1:00:35
Dedicated to raising awareness of rights and of
1:00:39
rights violations.
1:00:40
In 2025, the picture is mixed.
1:00:43
Some countries are embracing marriage equality, while others
1:00:46
are criminalizing LGBTQ identities.
1:00:49
This picture from what's happening in Brussels, a
1:00:52
celebration after one million signatures.
1:00:57
What are you doing?
1:00:58
Do you have Tourette's?
1:00:59
This guy's driving me nuts with his Oz.
1:01:01
Just listen to the message.
1:01:03
A ban on conversion therapy.
1:01:05
Joining me on the set is Flora Bolter,
1:01:07
co-director of the LGBTI Plus Observatory at
1:01:10
the Jean Jaurès.
1:01:11
Now, hold on a second, because now I'm
1:01:13
confused.
1:01:14
Do they have a telescope at the observatory?
1:01:19
Now, she's not an LGBTQ observer.
1:01:23
She's an LGBTI observer, which confused me.
1:01:28
Signatures for a ban on conversion therapy.
1:01:32
Joining me on the set is Flora Bolter,
1:01:33
co-director of the LGBTI Plus Observatory at
1:01:36
the Jean Jaurès Foundation.
1:01:38
Hello to you, Flora.
1:01:40
First of all, your reaction to those images.
1:01:42
Just bear with it.
1:01:44
We're seeing.
1:01:44
I'm sorry, yes.
1:01:45
In 2025, in Brussels, and also a brief
1:01:47
explanation of what conversion therapy is and why
1:01:50
the UN wants a global ban.
1:01:52
Okay, so they want a global ban.
1:01:54
The EU, and I guess you said UN,
1:01:56
but I think it's about the EU.
1:01:57
No, I thought you said UN.
1:02:00
Yeah, but he just misspoke.
1:02:01
The guy can't talk.
1:02:02
That's why he's on the news.
1:02:05
It's EU.
1:02:06
And they want a global ban on conversion
1:02:09
therapy.
1:02:10
Whatever, yes.
1:02:11
So what is the reason?
1:02:13
They want a ban.
1:02:14
Why?
1:02:15
Who cares?
1:02:16
Well, yes.
1:02:17
Well, conversion therapies, so-called therapies, are practices
1:02:21
that are meant to change someone's sexual orientation
1:02:24
or gender identity.
1:02:26
Isn't that exactly what we're talking about?
1:02:29
Yeah, that's what they do in the grammar
1:02:31
schools nowadays.
1:02:32
Yes, this is what you say to yourself.
1:02:35
Which, of course, does not work, and there
1:02:38
is no reason why it would be a
1:02:39
better thing, but socially some people feel pressure
1:02:43
from society, from their parents.
1:02:46
From the teachers.
1:02:47
Thank you.
1:02:49
This is exactly what I was thinking.
1:02:50
You're talking about the stuff you're doing.
1:02:53
Pressure from society, from their parents, and frequently
1:02:56
people are forced into these therapies, and they're
1:02:59
very harmful.
1:03:00
And we've recognized that they are harmful.
1:03:02
There has been a decision by the European
1:03:05
Parliament a few years back, and in France
1:03:08
there has been a law since 2022, banning
1:03:12
these practices, and the idea is that every
1:03:15
country should have a ban in place on
1:03:17
those practices because they are harmful.
1:03:19
There is no positive outcome of these practices.
1:03:22
They are not therapy, and they do not
1:03:24
convert anything or, you know, they don't work.
1:03:27
Why worry about it?
1:03:30
Exactly.
1:03:31
But they don't convert anything, it doesn't do
1:03:33
any good, so why ban it?
1:03:35
Who cares?
1:03:36
Well, here's the reason.
1:03:38
As she decloaks in the second clip.
1:03:41
Yeah, and this comes at a time when
1:03:42
a lot of activists or experts have been
1:03:45
noting gradual improvement for accepting and protecting trans
1:03:49
rights worldwide, but now there seems to have
1:03:52
been a shift.
1:03:53
Some are saying it's a normative shift.
1:03:55
Why is there a shift?
1:03:56
Whoa, John C.
1:03:57
Dvorak, why is there a shift?
1:03:59
What possibly could be the cause of said
1:04:02
shift?
1:04:04
Shift?
1:04:05
Yes, there's a shift.
1:04:07
They're falling back.
1:04:08
There's more conversion therapy.
1:04:10
People are against trans.
1:04:11
There is?
1:04:12
Yes, they're against trans.
1:04:13
I haven't noticed it.
1:04:14
Have you?
1:04:14
You don't get out of the house.
1:04:16
You're in California.
1:04:18
Well, in California we got none of that
1:04:20
stuff.
1:04:20
Exactly.
1:04:21
Well, there is a shift because there is
1:04:24
a concerted offensive by certain actors.
1:04:27
Certainly actors.
1:04:28
Actors?
1:04:29
Wait, hold on.
1:04:30
I thought Hollywood was all in on this.
1:04:32
How can she say that?
1:04:34
I think, that I believe is when you
1:04:37
use terms like that, that means you're maybe,
1:04:41
I don't know if that's elitist or if
1:04:43
that's possibly you know, she's in a milieu
1:04:47
where they use those terms.
1:04:50
Concerted offensive by certain actors.
1:04:52
Certainly actors in Russia.
1:04:55
That was very clearly one of Putin's main
1:04:58
international arguments about the decline of the West,
1:05:03
the so-called decline of the West, was
1:05:06
basically that LGBTI rights were recognized in the
1:05:09
US and in Europe and this has been
1:05:11
part of an offensive against these rights and
1:05:15
now we're seeing the same offensive from the
1:05:18
US, from Project 2025 and from President Trump.
1:05:25
So, the American Heritage Foundation and other ultra
1:05:29
-conservative groups have been pushing these so-called
1:05:33
values and these arguments forward using science and
1:05:36
internationally they have gained momentum and that is
1:05:40
feeding into the global illiberal backlash that we
1:05:45
are seeing in many countries and that is
1:05:47
indeed we're all thinking about Romania and other
1:05:50
countries where this is an issue today.
1:05:53
This is part and parcel of the current
1:05:56
far-right populistic movement in many countries in
1:06:01
Europe and this is a major problem.
1:06:05
It's political!
1:06:06
It works so well in America where we
1:06:10
abuse LGBTQI plus people for political gain.
1:06:16
Let's use it everywhere!
1:06:18
Romania?
1:06:19
Romania?
1:06:21
Have you heard anything about the frontrunner in
1:06:24
Romania being homophobic?
1:06:29
Romania where a right-winger won and then
1:06:31
they kicked him out because it wasn't the
1:06:35
right political persuasion?
1:06:37
Yes!
1:06:39
The hill the Democrat Party in America will
1:06:41
die on is now spreading.
1:06:43
They're like, oh, this is a great idea!
1:06:45
Let's get those people together!
1:06:47
She is clearly some kind of like, just
1:06:50
like the USAID you know, like, hey, let's
1:06:54
get some people to protest, make it to
1:06:57
tell them that these guys are homophobic and
1:07:00
then we get a lot of people to
1:07:01
turn out, a lot of allies.
1:07:03
It's worthless!
1:07:06
And it's disingenuous and it actually abuses people.
1:07:11
They're totally abusing people.
1:07:14
Oh, you know, Donald Trump hates you.
1:07:17
Okay.
1:07:19
Ah!
1:07:22
Okay.
1:07:23
That's exactly what it is.
1:07:24
But wait, there's more.
1:07:26
Because if you didn't think Donald Trump was
1:07:28
a racist, well, you will now.
1:07:32
MSNBC this morning, they laid it all out
1:07:35
because, you know, he doesn't care about black
1:07:36
people.
1:07:37
He only cares about white people!
1:07:40
Hey, there's lots of black people in Africa.
1:07:41
Who does Donald Trump save?
1:07:43
Only the white people.
1:07:44
Is President Trump's cruel deportation campaign aimed at
1:07:49
I'm actually glad you got this because I
1:07:51
never did get clips that I Yes, this
1:07:54
is a classic.
1:07:55
Yes, cruel deportation.
1:07:57
Is President Trump's cruel deportation campaign aimed at
1:08:01
removing millions of immigrants from the United States
1:08:04
These poor immigrants.
1:08:05
Millions of them.
1:08:06
Not illegal here, just immigrants.
1:08:09
The President is making an exception for one
1:08:12
group, white South Africans.
1:08:15
Unlike the Trump administration's treatment of other immigrants
1:08:18
This is too ludicrous.
1:08:19
It's fantastic.
1:08:20
Especially those from Latin America and our Afghan
1:08:24
allies that he's kicking out of sometime soon.
1:08:28
The President gave a warm welcome to dozens
1:08:31
of white South Africans this week.
1:08:33
He's also expediting refugee statuses for the group,
1:08:36
which he says includes victims of racial discrimination.
1:08:39
The move comes after his decision to freeze
1:08:41
refugee admissions from other nations and cut off
1:08:44
resettlement funding.
1:08:46
With black people.
1:08:47
So we have back with us former United
1:08:48
States ambassador to South Africa, Patrick Gaspar is
1:08:52
back with us to discuss.
1:08:53
You were former ambassador there.
1:08:56
Can you talk about what he is describing
1:08:59
as persecution?
1:09:00
I will.
1:09:01
I'll say a couple of things first.
1:09:02
When I come on shows like this, I'm
1:09:04
trained to retain my anger.
1:09:08
Who is he trained by?
1:09:10
What?
1:09:10
He says I'm kind of trained to retain
1:09:13
my anger when I come on shows like
1:09:15
this.
1:09:15
Trained by who?
1:09:16
That's my question.
1:09:18
He was an ambassador so he was trained
1:09:20
by somebody.
1:09:21
I will.
1:09:22
I'll say a couple of things first.
1:09:23
When I come on shows like this-
1:09:25
Is this a white guy, black guy?
1:09:26
Black guy.
1:09:28
Trained to kind of retain my anger.
1:09:31
It's hard to do that on this issue.
1:09:33
I'm absolutely furious.
1:09:35
There are a number of things that are
1:09:36
going on here.
1:09:37
One, Trump is playing to a domestic-
1:09:40
I'm retaining.
1:09:40
I'm kind of retaining.
1:09:42
I'm going to keep my anger back, but
1:09:44
I'm furious.
1:09:45
Yes.
1:09:45
There are a number of things that are
1:09:46
going on here.
1:09:47
One, Trump is playing to a domestic US
1:09:51
fringe political audience, which I'll talk about in
1:09:54
a second.
1:09:56
The Afrikaners in America.
1:09:58
There's a geopolitical impact because there's an attempt
1:10:00
to punish South Africa for the posture that
1:10:03
is taken internationally on the war in Gaza
1:10:07
and its claims against Israel.
1:10:10
And Trump is very clear about the-
1:10:12
Oh, a Jew-hater.
1:10:12
Need to punish South Africa in that regard.
1:10:15
But there's a third thing that's happening.
1:10:17
Donald Trump is the master of distraction.
1:10:19
And he knows that while we're having this
1:10:20
conversation, we're not talking about the prices that
1:10:22
are going up for average Americans in Walmart,
1:10:24
and he loves that.
1:10:26
I thought that was the best- He
1:10:27
loves the prices going up in Walmart to
1:10:30
screw the black American.
1:10:32
So then Capehart comes in.
1:10:34
Oh, God.
1:10:36
I could not resist because this just went
1:10:38
to a whole nother level.
1:10:40
If you are of a certain age, you
1:10:41
remember the anti-apartheid demonstrations that were happening
1:10:45
all over the country, particularly on college campuses.
1:10:49
And to see, here we are, several decades
1:10:52
hence, Afrikaners are being given refugee status and
1:10:56
coming to- being brought here to the
1:10:59
United States.
1:11:00
We knew exactly the signal that President Trump
1:11:03
was sending when he did that.
1:11:04
Oh, they knew what the signal was.
1:11:07
It was a signal, John.
1:11:09
It was a signal.
1:11:09
It wasn't any concern for anything.
1:11:13
It was a signal.
1:11:14
Absolutely, Jonathan.
1:11:15
You and I are old enough to participate
1:11:17
in- Absolutely.
1:11:18
Absolutely, Jonathan.
1:11:20
Those demonstrations, right?
1:11:22
The first time I ever went to South
1:11:23
Africa was 1991.
1:11:26
And I got to observe Nelson Mandela's vision
1:11:29
for a rainbow nation.
1:11:31
I lived three and a half years in
1:11:33
South Africa as ambassador, and I've seen white
1:11:35
and black South Africans and colored South Africans
1:11:37
working every single day towards the affirmation of
1:11:41
that vision.
1:11:42
I talk to my white South African friends
1:11:43
all the time, and they think it's bizarre
1:11:45
that this is occurring now.
1:11:47
They can't recognize their country that's being described
1:11:50
by Donald Trump.
1:11:50
I will say that white supremacy has never
1:11:54
lived in isolation.
1:11:55
Did you see how quick that went?
1:11:57
Did you see how quick that went?
1:11:59
That went from the Rainbow Coalition in South
1:12:02
Africa to white supremacy!
1:12:04
It's being described by Donald Trump.
1:12:05
It's very good.
1:12:07
He had to contain his anger so he
1:12:09
could get to this bit.
1:12:10
You know, white supremacy has never lived in
1:12:12
isolation.
1:12:13
It has always and ever thus will be
1:12:15
a global phenomena.
1:12:16
And there is a conversation that's taking place
1:12:18
from the United States to South Africa to
1:12:22
Australia, in Europe.
1:12:24
Which show is this from?
1:12:27
MSNBC this morning!
1:12:29
This morning!
1:12:31
Oh my God.
1:12:33
It's almost over.
1:12:33
Bear with me.
1:12:34
Contain your anger.
1:12:35
From the United States to South Africa to
1:12:38
Australia, in Europe with fringe neo-Nazi adjacent
1:12:43
groups like Africa.
1:12:45
Fringe neo-Nazi adjacent groups.
1:12:48
How far removed are you?
1:12:50
Are you a Nazi or not?
1:12:51
You're a fringe neo-Nazi adjacent.
1:12:55
Hmm.
1:12:56
Okay.
1:12:57
Alright.
1:12:57
This is a new term.
1:12:58
South Africa to Australia in Europe with fringe
1:13:04
neo-Nazi adjacent groups like Afroforum that are
1:13:08
promoting this notion of a white genocide.
1:13:10
It is really instructive to see the President
1:13:13
of the United States who is denying the
1:13:16
plight, the struggle of Palestinians in this moment
1:13:19
who are under siege.
1:13:21
It's interesting to hear him use the word
1:13:23
genocide when he's talking about a people who
1:13:25
represent 7% of a population, have like
1:13:28
70% of the land, have 65%
1:13:31
of the senior management jobs in South Africa,
1:13:35
and whose unemployment ratio is like 1 20th
1:13:39
of the unemployment ratio of blacks in South
1:13:41
Africa.
1:13:42
This is deliberate.
1:13:43
It is signaling to his fringe MAGA cohort
1:13:48
here in the U.S. and sending a
1:13:51
wide signal to those who are neo-Nazi
1:13:55
adjacent in other parts of the world.
1:13:57
Hey, Whitey, you're good here in America.
1:14:00
This is...
1:14:00
You know, this irks me because I missed
1:14:03
a clip.
1:14:04
I'm going to tell...
1:14:06
This is going to be the new segment
1:14:07
of the show.
1:14:08
John tells you the clips he didn't clip.
1:14:10
You didn't even see this this morning.
1:14:12
This was...
1:14:13
No, but this previous clip I saw on
1:14:15
MSNBC where they're going around bitching and moaning
1:14:22
about these Afrikaner farmers that they're coming over
1:14:26
here, giving up all their land and coming
1:14:27
over here because it's racism.
1:14:31
of course, there are clips of guys saying
1:14:33
we should kill all whites.
1:14:35
Yes!
1:14:35
We got tons of those.
1:14:37
They go around the horn on one of
1:14:40
these shows on MSNBC and the black girl,
1:14:42
one of the black girls goes, I don't
1:14:44
know why they're doing that.
1:14:45
There's also a genocide going on in the
1:14:48
Congo.
1:14:49
They're not taking any of the black Congolese.
1:14:53
And after she said that, one of the
1:14:55
other black guys on MSNBC goes, no, no,
1:14:58
no, no, you can't say that.
1:15:00
The white thing is not a genocide.
1:15:02
They get all freaked out because she used
1:15:04
the word genocide.
1:15:06
But here's my question, and I will address
1:15:09
them in their native tongue.
1:15:11
Waar zijn mijn Afrikaners?
1:15:13
Wij hebben wat rapporten van jullie nodig.
1:15:17
That was my Afrikaans.
1:15:19
Saying, where is my boots on the ground,
1:15:22
Afrikaners?
1:15:23
I don't think any Afrikaners listen to our
1:15:26
show.
1:15:27
I'm going to call Laura Logan today.
1:15:29
She's a white South African.
1:15:31
I'll ask her.
1:15:31
She'll know.
1:15:33
She's right down the street.
1:15:36
Yeah, I think you should.
1:15:37
I'm going to.
1:15:38
So what's the dealio?
1:15:40
How's your agenda doing?
1:15:42
Do you have no agenda?
1:15:46
What are you going to say to her?
1:15:47
No.
1:15:49
We've already been down that road with Laura.
1:15:54
Hey, Laura, please don't make me sue you.
1:15:56
You're my neighbor.
1:15:57
I don't want to sue them a neighbor.
1:15:59
That's not a good idea.
1:16:01
Since you brought up Capehart, I do have
1:16:02
a couple of Brooks and Capehart things, which
1:16:05
is not a bad book.
1:16:07
Now I regret it.
1:16:08
By the way, this is going to happen
1:16:10
every single time.
1:16:11
This is why people are running away from
1:16:13
the show.
1:16:13
It's from Capehart.
1:16:15
It's my fault.
1:16:16
I opened the door.
1:16:18
Okay, so here's they're talking about they're on
1:16:21
the Brooks and Capehart part of this last
1:16:23
Friday and they're going on and on and
1:16:25
on about Trump's crazy nutty trip to the
1:16:29
Middle East and all the crazy stupid stuff
1:16:32
he's doing.
1:16:32
And they're in agreement with everything.
1:16:34
And then they bring up the fact that
1:16:36
somebody wants to do a reality TV show
1:16:38
about immigration.
1:16:40
I saw this on Instagram because people will
1:16:44
send me an Instagram clip and it's some
1:16:45
dude saying literally this.
1:16:49
Someone at Homeland Security wants to do a
1:16:51
reality show so immigrants can compete for a
1:16:53
green card.
1:16:54
And I'm like, are you sending this to
1:16:55
me as proof that someone said that?
1:16:58
Because where does this come from?
1:17:00
Do we know that anyone actually said that?
1:17:03
By whom?
1:17:04
The producer of this show came up with
1:17:06
this idea during the Obama administration.
1:17:09
Yeah, it's our idea.
1:17:10
Exactly.
1:17:11
It's an old idea.
1:17:12
It's our idea.
1:17:13
It's our idea, basically.
1:17:16
But it's beside the point for these clips
1:17:19
because they're going back and forth.
1:17:21
They throw it to Brooks and we've got
1:17:23
to make sure to play this.
1:17:24
This is the BNC on reality TV.
1:17:28
Then I do the Ask Adam afterwards.
1:17:30
And so you play this and this is
1:17:34
the most indicting aspect of any...
1:17:38
All the clips I've ever done for Brooks
1:17:40
and K-Part this tells me everything I
1:17:43
need to know about why we don't want
1:17:46
to listen to Brooks or K-Part.
1:17:48
They're disconnected from the real world.
1:17:52
They don't care about anything but themselves.
1:17:55
They're obviously in the cocktail set floating around
1:17:58
Washington D.C. Foggy bottom.
1:18:01
This is actually unbelievable.
1:18:05
And then finally on the game show or
1:18:07
whatever, the reality show I have to confess
1:18:11
I've never seen a reality show in my
1:18:13
life.
1:18:13
You've never seen a single reality show in
1:18:15
your life, David Brooks?
1:18:16
I have not seen The Housewives of Bethesda,
1:18:19
Maryland.
1:18:19
I have not seen Love is Blind.
1:18:22
I did not see Duck Dynasty.
1:18:24
There's another one.
1:18:25
It's just not...
1:18:27
I'm bad with emotional drama.
1:18:31
Okay, so we have someone who has never
1:18:35
seen...
1:18:36
Reality shows have been on the air for
1:18:38
what?
1:18:38
20, 30 years now?
1:18:40
Have you ever seen Survivor?
1:18:42
Way before that.
1:18:44
MTV's Real World, I would say.
1:18:46
Yeah, there you go.
1:18:47
It goes way back.
1:18:48
The first real big one was The Osbournes.
1:18:51
That was 2002.
1:18:52
2002.
1:18:54
So we've gone over 20 years of these
1:18:56
things and he doesn't watch them because of
1:19:00
the emotional baggage.
1:19:02
Because, for example, he's not going to be
1:19:05
able to take the emotional effect of Duck
1:19:08
Dynasty.
1:19:08
It's going to bring him to his knees.
1:19:10
He's going to be crying like a baby.
1:19:13
I don't know.
1:19:14
Whatever the case is, I don't want to
1:19:16
listen to anything.
1:19:18
I don't think you should be all jacked
1:19:20
up about pop culture, but can you just...
1:19:23
You don't know what you're talking about if
1:19:25
you don't even watch one reality show in
1:19:27
25 years.
1:19:28
And there's thousands of them by now.
1:19:31
You don't actually believe this douche, do you?
1:19:34
Yes, I do.
1:19:35
Oh, please.
1:19:36
Oh, he's...
1:19:37
Let's go to K-Part, and now I'm
1:19:41
going to ask the ask and right off
1:19:42
the bat, has K-Part ever watched a
1:19:45
reality show?
1:19:46
Do I answer before the clip or after
1:19:49
the clip?
1:19:49
Yeah, you answer before the clip.
1:20:00
Answer the question.
1:20:01
Go!
1:20:02
Not only has he watched a reality show,
1:20:05
I predict in this obviously short clip of
1:20:07
10 seconds that he will tell us his
1:20:10
favorite reality show.
1:20:13
Ask Adam gets one point.
1:20:15
I mean, I've watched reality television shows.
1:20:18
Okay, well, one, RuPaul's Drag Race, which is
1:20:21
a fabulous, fabulous, fabulous reality show.
1:20:25
And I could have guessed that one.
1:20:27
Crap!
1:20:28
I could have gone for an extra point.
1:20:31
I could have gotten it.
1:20:32
Obviously.
1:20:34
Now, back to your point about you think
1:20:36
Brooks is a liar.
1:20:38
Why would you lie about something like this
1:20:40
when it puts you in an awkward position
1:20:42
of being a...
1:20:44
Yeah, he's a douche, but why would you
1:20:46
say that I've never watched a reality show
1:20:48
and now I'm going to comment on pop
1:20:51
culture, I'm going to comment on world affairs,
1:20:53
I'm going to comment on this and that.
1:20:55
Why would you put yourself in that position
1:20:56
by lying about never watching a reality show?
1:20:59
It makes no sense.
1:21:00
Because...
1:21:00
I don't believe he's ever watched a reality
1:21:02
show, but I do believe...
1:21:04
Oh, you said it.
1:21:04
I do believe...
1:21:05
You do believe...
1:21:06
that K-Part watches with relish RuPaul's Drag
1:21:12
Race.
1:21:14
I think he's lying because he moves in
1:21:19
super elitist circles.
1:21:21
I've been in these circles where they would
1:21:22
never, ever admit to watching it.
1:21:26
So I've been in circles like this.
1:21:28
Parties.
1:21:29
And this is when I was back in
1:21:30
the MTV days.
1:21:31
You get mixed up in these things.
1:21:34
People say, Oh, hi!
1:21:36
I don't watch MTV!
1:21:38
Who are you?
1:21:42
I'm sorry.
1:21:43
You're like...
1:21:44
You do something.
1:21:44
I don't watch cable.
1:21:47
Seriously.
1:21:48
Those were the days.
1:21:48
I don't watch cable.
1:21:50
You're watching Channel J.
1:21:52
I know what you're doing.
1:21:54
You're watching...
1:21:55
Who was that guy?
1:21:57
Disgusting George.
1:21:58
What was his name?
1:22:00
The guy who would walk around with a
1:22:03
camera and a satellite dish on his head
1:22:04
and would pick up pretty girls on the
1:22:06
streets of Manhattan.
1:22:07
What was his name?
1:22:08
There's a bunch of shows.
1:22:09
I don't remember that guy's name.
1:22:11
Something George.
1:22:12
My favorite one was the Extra E is
1:22:15
for Extra P or whatever it was.
1:22:17
I don't know about that one.
1:22:21
The public whatever it was in New York
1:22:24
City, what's it called?
1:22:26
The Access Channel, whatever it is, was rude
1:22:31
in New York.
1:22:32
You had the Robin Bird show.
1:22:34
Robin Bird.
1:22:35
There's another one.
1:22:36
Come on, baby.
1:22:37
Bang my box.
1:22:38
Ugly George.
1:22:39
Yeah, it is.
1:22:39
The Ugly George Hour of Truth.
1:22:41
That's who it was.
1:22:42
Ugly George.
1:22:44
What's his name?
1:22:45
The guy who ran Factor Magazine and he
1:22:48
had a show and all he did was
1:22:50
cuss out everybody.
1:22:51
It was the Screw guy.
1:22:53
Screw Magazine guy.
1:22:55
Screw Magazine.
1:22:58
It wasn't Goldstein?
1:23:00
It was something like Goldstein.
1:23:01
All he did was just say F you
1:23:05
and he'd name a company.
1:23:07
Al Goldstein.
1:23:08
Al Goldstein.
1:23:09
That was one of the better shows.
1:23:11
That was the TikTok of the day, baby.
1:23:14
That was good stuff.
1:23:16
That was dynamite stuff.
1:23:19
Dynamite.
1:23:21
Anyway, yes.
1:23:22
I believe that he's lying.
1:23:26
these people are all superstitious.
1:23:27
I disagree, but okay.
1:23:35
Sure.
1:23:36
Okay.
1:23:38
All right.
1:23:39
I'm spent now.
1:23:41
I don't know what to say.
1:23:43
Where do we go?
1:23:44
What you got?
1:23:46
Well, we got some global warming in Texas.
1:23:49
We went from let's see, it was Sunday
1:23:58
was 55 degrees.
1:24:01
By Monday, it was 105.
1:24:05
Then we had a couple days in the
1:24:07
80s and now it's down to a nice
1:24:10
cool 75.
1:24:12
Is that global warming?
1:24:13
You've been in Texas long enough to answer
1:24:15
this question.
1:24:16
15 years I'd say is the time I've
1:24:19
been here.
1:24:19
Does that make it does that, can you
1:24:22
say that that's screwball?
1:24:24
It's obviously global warming or is this Texas?
1:24:27
In 2012 when I first visited 2012?
1:24:38
No, it was 2010.
1:24:41
I came to Austin for the first time.
1:24:43
We had a meet up.
1:24:45
It was 112 degrees.
1:24:48
That sounds about right.
1:24:50
And it was July.
1:24:52
And okay, yeah.
1:24:53
And people went, don't you love it?
1:24:56
Isn't it a beautiful day?
1:24:58
The heat is on in Texas where a
1:25:00
spring heat wave has broken May temperature records
1:25:03
in some parts of the state.
1:25:05
And that is not the only place where
1:25:06
heat is an issue.
1:25:08
According to the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration,
1:25:11
the planet's 10 warmest years since 1850 have
1:25:15
all occurred in the past decade.
1:25:16
Oh, of course it did.
1:25:18
Wait a minute.
1:25:19
The 10 warmest years were in the last
1:25:22
10 years.
1:25:23
This was 15 years ago.
1:25:25
Every single year for the last decade has
1:25:27
been the warmest.
1:25:28
No, it's just not true.
1:25:29
I've been here.
1:25:31
It's not true.
1:25:33
But I do like that they're saying global
1:25:35
warming.
1:25:36
We did have a heat dome for a
1:25:38
day or two.
1:25:38
That's where the 105 came from.
1:25:40
It was just no wind.
1:25:42
And actually when the heat dome moves on
1:25:45
and the wind kicks up, that's when everyone
1:25:47
gets nervous.
1:25:49
Oh man, it's dry and the wind and
1:25:51
if there's one dude smoking a bone somewhere
1:25:55
and he...
1:25:55
Yeah, the bone.
1:25:56
The whole place goes up.
1:25:57
We'll burn up.
1:25:58
Adelita Cantu lives in San Antonio, Texas where
1:26:01
it is currently sweltering around 100 degrees.
1:26:04
Oh, sweltering.
1:26:05
100 degrees.
1:26:07
It was just nothing.
1:26:08
I've been to Texas enough to know that.
1:26:11
I wear my hoodie in 100 degrees when
1:26:13
I walk the dog.
1:26:14
And it's humid too.
1:26:16
So even though we may be...
1:26:17
No.
1:26:18
No.
1:26:19
I'm sorry.
1:26:20
It might be humid in Dallas or Houston,
1:26:22
but not here.
1:26:23
Not in the hill country.
1:26:24
So even though we may be like hit
1:26:26
100, it's going to feel like 105.
1:26:30
1000 degrees.
1:26:31
Texans are definitely not...
1:26:33
Wait, wait.
1:26:33
Hold on.
1:26:33
Stop it there.
1:26:35
100.
1:26:35
It's going to feel like 100.
1:26:36
That's not what humidity does if it's real
1:26:38
humidity.
1:26:39
No, it makes it feel humid.
1:26:41
You're in Florida.
1:26:43
It's 90.
1:26:44
Well, actually let's forget it.
1:26:46
Go to the Midwest.
1:26:46
Go up to Chicago.
1:26:48
Chicago.
1:26:48
It's 90 with high humidity.
1:26:50
It feels like it's 200 degrees.
1:26:52
It's terrible.
1:26:54
I've been in New York once where it
1:26:56
was so humid.
1:26:57
You want to puke.
1:26:58
You walk outside.
1:26:59
That I had to change my clothes twice
1:27:02
in one day.
1:27:04
It's going to feel like 105, 106.
1:27:08
Texans are definitely not strangers to heat.
1:27:10
But Cantu is a public health nurse at
1:27:12
the University of Texas Health, San Antonio.
1:27:14
And she knows that heat like this is
1:27:16
particularly dangerous when it comes early in the
1:27:19
heat season.
1:27:20
Where are these clips from?
1:27:22
What journalistic organization has put this together?
1:27:26
I believe these are NPR.
1:27:28
Without any favor.
1:27:29
2024 being the hottest year on record so
1:27:32
far.
1:27:33
And experts say heat this early in the
1:27:35
year can be especially risky.
1:27:37
NPR's Climate Desk reporter Alejandro Barunda explains why.
1:27:40
Hold on a second.
1:27:42
I want to be at the No Agenda
1:27:44
Climate Desk.
1:27:45
I'm here.
1:27:46
In fact, I'm sitting behind the No Agenda
1:27:47
Climate Desk.
1:27:48
And it's not just Texas.
1:27:49
This is increasingly a problem across the United
1:27:52
States.
1:27:53
Tess Wiskel is an emergency physician at Harvard
1:27:55
University outside of Boston.
1:27:57
She has seen the emergency room fill up
1:27:59
during early season heat waves, even when the
1:28:02
temperatures don't seem super high.
1:28:04
You tend to see outdoor workers getting sicker
1:28:07
faster.
1:28:08
And we tend to see athletes and other
1:28:10
people like that.
1:28:10
Wiskel says that happens because people's bodies haven't
1:28:13
yet gone through a process called acclimatization.
1:28:16
That can take a couple weeks of heat
1:28:18
exposure as bodies make some key changes.
1:28:21
It will sweat earlier to help cool you
1:28:24
off when you're acclimatized.
1:28:26
Your whole blood volume is going to change
1:28:28
when you're acclimatized.
1:28:29
And all of these things help protect you
1:28:31
from heat.
1:28:31
So early in the year, a lot of
1:28:33
people's bodies haven't done that yet.
1:28:35
That means a higher risk of heat exhaustion,
1:28:38
heat stroke, even heart problems.
1:28:39
What are we, reptiles?
1:28:41
What's this acclimatized body?
1:28:43
We live in air conditioning, lady.
1:28:46
Here's the funny thing about it.
1:28:48
What difference does it make when the temperature
1:28:52
goes from whatever it is to hot?
1:28:54
I'm not acclimatized yet.
1:28:56
If it happens in the spring, is it
1:28:58
more dangerous than if it happens like in
1:29:01
the late spring or in the beginning of
1:29:03
summer or in the middle of summer?
1:29:05
What difference does it make?
1:29:06
It's actually been such a beautiful spring.
1:29:09
It's been very cool.
1:29:10
We had a lot of rain.
1:29:11
Everyone's real happy.
1:29:13
But when I call Laura Logan about the
1:29:16
South Afrikaners, I'm going to say, Laura, are
1:29:19
you acclimatized yet?
1:29:20
And I'm sure she'll have an answer for
1:29:22
me.
1:29:23
This is, you know, the more I hear
1:29:26
these clips, because clearly no one is believing
1:29:29
this anymore.
1:29:31
I mean, you look at Instagram.
1:29:33
Used to be that if you did a
1:29:35
climate change joke, it would be taken down.
1:29:38
I mean, there's comedians doing jokes about climate
1:29:41
change.
1:29:41
It's become a punchline almost.
1:29:43
No one believes in climate change other than,
1:29:47
eh, climate change is all the time.
1:29:48
Whatever.
1:29:49
No one believes in it.
1:29:51
So you have to think that some of
1:29:53
that sweet, sweet climate change money is going
1:29:56
to outfits like NPR.
1:29:58
Just like pharma, there's got to be money
1:30:01
flowing into it.
1:30:02
You can't tell me they're actually interested at
1:30:04
the climate desk.
1:30:06
Well, the climate desk is interesting, because without
1:30:08
climate change, there's no climate desk.
1:30:10
But these news models that they're seeing, they're
1:30:13
like, oh, yes, this is riveting.
1:30:15
I need to learn about climatization of the
1:30:17
Texans.
1:30:18
You don't even care.
1:30:19
You hate Texans.
1:30:21
It makes no sense.
1:30:24
Other than money, money, money.
1:30:26
Well, anyway, thank you for coming to the
1:30:28
climate desk.
1:30:29
As part of the climate desk, I always
1:30:32
investigate what we can do to stop evil,
1:30:36
nasty fossil fuel burning to mobilize ourselves, because
1:30:41
when we're climatized, we can't be mobilized, so
1:30:44
we need battery cars.
1:30:45
And what is the big drawback of battery
1:30:47
cars?
1:30:48
Eh, I've had it, because I once borrowed
1:30:50
a Tesla to drive to college station.
1:30:52
It's called range anxiety.
1:30:55
If you run out of juice in an
1:30:57
EV, roadside assistance is available in the form
1:31:00
of mobile charging.
1:31:02
Our main thing is to get you on
1:31:03
the go.
1:31:03
We get you on the go, you can
1:31:05
make it home.
1:31:05
AAA is adding to its roadside assistance program
1:31:08
with a mobile charging fleet that's free for
1:31:11
members.
1:31:11
We call AAA.
1:31:12
We send out one of our vehicles that
1:31:14
has the equipment to charge your vehicle.
1:31:17
The service takes between 15 to 30 minutes,
1:31:20
depending on how much juice you need.
1:31:22
So I'm gonna give our vehicle some power.
1:31:24
The roadside service has level 2 chargers with
1:31:27
adapters for any electric vehicle.
1:31:29
Tesla, and then non-Tesla.
1:31:31
It's that easy.
1:31:32
And I run it straight to your vehicle.
1:31:33
I'm gonna just plug this in.
1:31:35
That shows that it's giving it a charge.
1:31:37
We get you enough to go about 20
1:31:39
miles, maybe to get home, or enough to
1:31:41
the closest charging station.
1:31:42
We'll check to make sure that they have
1:31:44
a good enough charge.
1:31:45
We'll follow them to the closest gas station,
1:31:46
just in case.
1:31:47
EV manufacturers like Toyota, Ford, and Tesla also
1:31:51
offer mobile charging roadside assistance.
1:31:53
The programs vary a bit, depending on the
1:31:55
automaker, so you just need to make sure
1:31:57
to ask about it.
1:31:58
AAA still gets more calls for gas refills,
1:32:01
but is seeing a definite uptick in mobile
1:32:03
charging.
1:32:04
It says it will add the mobile charges
1:32:06
to their trucks as needed to keep up
1:32:08
guys with driving into the future.
1:32:10
Back to you.
1:32:10
Here we go.
1:32:11
Range anxiety.
1:32:13
As though we need it anymore.
1:32:15
Now, missing from this report, I mean, yeah,
1:32:18
if you run out of gas, and I've
1:32:19
run out of gas in my life, you
1:32:21
know, and some guy comes along, he's got
1:32:24
a little, and you're grateful, thank you, I'll
1:32:28
have you on the road in no time.
1:32:29
You see a can of gas, you get
1:32:31
a gallon.
1:32:31
Yeah, I'll have you on the road in
1:32:33
no time, Mr. Curry, thank you for being
1:32:34
a AAA member.
1:32:36
Now, how does it work with this?
1:32:37
I'll have you on the road in about
1:32:39
three hours, Mr. Curry, just sit back and
1:32:41
relax.
1:32:41
Do they have some supercharger in this truck
1:32:43
all of a sudden?
1:32:44
They have a huge capacitor that just blows
1:32:47
it in?
1:32:48
Well, they get to max whatever it is.
1:32:50
It's in a truck!
1:32:52
Yeah, it's not going to do much.
1:32:54
They said it'd get you 20 miles, it'd
1:32:56
give you a 15-minute crappy charge and
1:32:58
you're on your way.
1:32:59
Ugh.
1:33:01
Which reminds me, I have to give a
1:33:03
It's on your way to go wait three
1:33:05
hours somewhere else, okay.
1:33:06
I have a car report.
1:33:08
A car report?
1:33:09
Oh, nice.
1:33:10
Yeah, so I had to take my old
1:33:12
20-year-old Lexus into the dealer to
1:33:15
have some work done.
1:33:16
It has a bunch of expensive stuff to
1:33:18
do.
1:33:18
Now, when you show up, are they snickering
1:33:20
at you?
1:33:21
No, nobody snickers at this car because it's
1:33:23
so pretty.
1:33:24
They say, wow, there's that guy with that
1:33:26
classic.
1:33:26
He's got that old car.
1:33:28
Well, okay, what does he want?
1:33:30
That's the same guy I see at the
1:33:31
bank with that stack of $2 checks.
1:33:33
That guy's amazing.
1:33:35
So the Lexus, one of the little benefits
1:33:39
is you get a loaner.
1:33:42
And so I got a loaner and I
1:33:43
got the I guess it's the UX 300H
1:33:48
or no, it's actually probably, yeah, it's one
1:33:51
of the 300 so 300H, it's a 300
1:33:55
or three liter hybrid.
1:33:57
It's the hybrid.
1:33:59
A brand new car.
1:34:00
Yeah.
1:34:01
I have to say Are you saying hybrid
1:34:03
or hybrid?
1:34:04
I always say hybrid.
1:34:06
It's not hybrid, it's hybrid.
1:34:08
I like hybrid better.
1:34:11
So I've got this car.
1:34:13
It's a battery car with a motor, which
1:34:16
I think is fine.
1:34:18
Yeah.
1:34:18
I don't know how people can drive these
1:34:20
new cars.
1:34:22
I will say this.
1:34:23
It's faster.
1:34:25
It's smoother.
1:34:26
The ride is better.
1:34:27
I'm coming back.
1:34:28
I'm looking at the speedometer.
1:34:30
I'm doing 90 in a 60 zone.
1:34:33
There's that guy with that old Lexus and
1:34:35
the stack of $2 checks.
1:34:37
He's doing 90 in a 60.
1:34:38
Pull him over.
1:34:40
So but it's the beeping and the booping
1:34:45
and the radar and the lights going on
1:34:48
here and there.
1:34:49
It's got too many gizmos and the crazy
1:34:53
knobs and buttons and the screen with all
1:34:56
the stuff going on.
1:34:57
It's a nightmare.
1:35:00
And I would say that anyone who drives
1:35:03
a modern super new car, I think they're
1:35:08
going to develop a lot of bad habits.
1:35:10
For one thing, you never look to see
1:35:11
if there's a car coming, if you're going
1:35:13
to change lanes.
1:35:14
You can't.
1:35:16
There's too many blind spots on these things.
1:35:18
There's a lot of blind spots.
1:35:19
They've got the little radar thing so they
1:35:21
get a little light in the corner of
1:35:22
your mirror.
1:35:23
It says, there's a car here.
1:35:24
Don't, don't, don't, no, no.
1:35:26
And so on both sides, which is fine.
1:35:28
It's great.
1:35:29
It works.
1:35:30
And then, of course, the car, I was
1:35:31
backing out of the driveway with this car
1:35:33
and somebody drove, was driving up the street
1:35:36
and, of course, the car brakes.
1:35:38
It just slams on the brakes and stops
1:35:40
me as if I was going to run
1:35:42
into the car.
1:35:43
Oh, yeah, yeah.
1:35:44
Well, that can be handy if you're looking
1:35:46
at your phone.
1:35:46
Yeah, I suppose it would be handy.
1:35:47
If you're looking at your phone.
1:35:50
Which is in the drawer, there would be
1:35:52
some feet.
1:35:53
But I really think it's going to, people
1:35:56
are going to develop bad driving habits with
1:35:58
these cars.
1:36:00
They're beeping at you constantly.
1:36:01
I completely agree.
1:36:03
There's, and by the way, I see a
1:36:06
lot of people looking at their phone in
1:36:08
the car because these cars will keep them
1:36:10
in the lane.
1:36:11
Yeah, that's another thing.
1:36:12
And they'll brake, and they'll brake automatically.
1:36:14
I'm not worried about it.
1:36:15
It'll just brake and I'll be fine.
1:36:17
It'll all be groovy.
1:36:18
It'll be good.
1:36:18
It's all good to go, man.
1:36:21
It's, uh, yeah.
1:36:22
There's a lot of beeping and booping in
1:36:24
the cars.
1:36:24
I agree.
1:36:25
Beeping and booping.
1:36:26
It just never ends.
1:36:27
I even gunned it once.
1:36:29
The car goes faster than imaginable.
1:36:31
It's got a good electric motor.
1:36:33
It's because that hybrid kicks in.
1:36:35
The hybrid?
1:36:36
So it shoots off and then it gives
1:36:38
me a beep, a little beep of discontent.
1:36:41
Oh, beep.
1:36:42
You go, you, no, no, no, no, no.
1:36:44
Beep.
1:36:44
You shouldn't do that.
1:36:47
Don't gun it.
1:36:48
Speaking of hybrid, this was an interesting little
1:36:53
news bit I picked up from CBS.
1:36:55
The Food and Drug Administration says it is
1:36:57
planning to review its approval of a so
1:36:59
-called yoga mat chemical that's been banned in
1:37:02
Europe but can be a bread ingredient in
1:37:05
the U.S. The agency previously approved it
1:37:07
to...
1:37:07
I always grind up my yoga mats into
1:37:09
bread.
1:37:11
Bread ingredient in the U.S. The agency
1:37:14
previously approved it to whiten cereal flour and
1:37:17
improve baking bread dough, but advocacy groups have
1:37:20
raised concerns about its potential health risks.
1:37:23
For more on this and other health news,
1:37:25
let's bring in CBS News Digital Reporter Alex
1:37:27
Tan.
1:37:27
Alex, what are the concerns with this so
1:37:29
-called yoga mat ingredient?
1:37:32
Yeah, so this ingredient, which is called ADA
1:37:34
for short, I'm not going to try to
1:37:36
pronounce the longer name because I did not
1:37:39
do too well in chemistry when I was
1:37:40
in college.
1:37:41
Well, let's give it a shot.
1:37:46
Azodicarbonamide.
1:37:46
You're the chemist of the group.
1:37:48
I'd have to look at the writing.
1:37:50
Just do ADA chemical and it pops up
1:37:54
on Wikipedia.
1:37:55
ADA chemical.
1:37:57
Yeah.
1:37:58
It's a bunch of balls.
1:38:01
It's blue balls and there are some red
1:38:03
balls and a couple of silver balls.
1:38:05
It's a lot of balls.
1:38:14
A chemical compound.
1:38:17
It is a yellow to orange-red odorless
1:38:20
crystalline powder, sometimes called the yoga mat chemical
1:38:23
because that's what you want in your bread.
1:38:25
What is wrong with people?
1:38:28
ADA was a bread ingredient that is used
1:38:32
in the United States essentially, as you said,
1:38:34
to improve bread flour, sometimes used to improve
1:38:37
cereal as well.
1:38:38
There is some concern in other countries that
1:38:41
when this ingredient is used in flour, it
1:38:45
can break down into another chemical that for
1:38:48
short is called SEM.
1:38:50
I'm not going to try to pronounce the
1:38:51
long name for that either, which might cause
1:38:54
cancer.
1:38:55
That's actually why Europe many, many years ago
1:38:58
said that they would not allow the use
1:39:00
of this chemical in bread in their country
1:39:02
in the United States.
1:39:04
They have said that their studies, this is
1:39:05
according to the FDA a few years ago,
1:39:07
found that the amount of this chemical that
1:39:09
was showing up in the food supply as
1:39:12
a result of the baking process was too
1:39:14
small, they thought, to actually cause a cancer
1:39:17
risk.
1:39:17
What is going on?
1:39:20
The semicarbazide and ethyl carbamate are the two
1:39:26
things.
1:39:26
One is urethane.
1:39:29
This is an interesting chemical I'm looking at.
1:39:31
The chemical itself is prepared with the treatment
1:39:35
of urea with hydrazine.
1:39:38
Urea, isn't that...
1:39:40
What is urea?
1:39:41
It's an ammonia compound.
1:39:43
It's like fertilizer.
1:39:45
Why didn't this ever get discovered they can
1:39:49
use it?
1:39:50
What is the point of using it?
1:39:53
Let's put this in the bread!
1:39:55
It's allowed to be added to flowers.
1:39:59
What reason?
1:40:01
I think it's called bleaching.
1:40:02
Subway and Wendy's decided they're not going to
1:40:05
use it anymore.
1:40:05
It's a dough conditioner.
1:40:08
Conditioner?
1:40:10
Yeah, it's bleaching.
1:40:11
It's a bleaching agent.
1:40:12
I've heard about this being a huge deal.
1:40:16
This is used to bleach dough.
1:40:21
Dough is already bleached.
1:40:23
I think the United States is one of
1:40:24
the few countries, I believe, that does this
1:40:27
bleaching.
1:40:28
I've never understood why.
1:40:32
Here is a synthetic chemical compound used primarily
1:40:35
in the food industry as a dough conditioner
1:40:37
and a flour treatment agent.
1:40:39
Why do we need to condition the dough?
1:40:41
Isn't dough just dough?
1:40:43
Oh, it's added to bread and other baked
1:40:45
goods to improve texture, increase volume.
1:40:48
Ah, there it is.
1:40:49
It's a volumizer.
1:40:50
So it looks like you got more bread.
1:40:55
ADA functions as a leavening agent by releasing
1:40:58
gas when heated which helps the dough rise.
1:41:01
Oh my goodness.
1:41:02
Sorry for making balloon bread, which is out
1:41:05
of favor.
1:41:06
Well, none of this should be in favor.
1:41:08
This is all horrible.
1:41:10
This is not good.
1:41:13
Hmm.
1:41:16
Well, while we're on it, um, this is
1:41:20
nothing but bad news these days when it
1:41:22
comes.
1:41:22
Bad news.
1:41:23
Bad news.
1:41:24
Meantime, an alarming health trend as new research
1:41:27
shows a rise in early onset cancers.
1:41:29
Another alarming cancer report.
1:41:31
Oh, I gotta follow up to this then.
1:41:34
Younger adults, and now researchers, of course, want
1:41:36
to know why.
1:41:37
According to the National Cancer Institute, more than
1:41:39
2 million Americans between 15 and 49 years
1:41:42
of age were diagnosed with cancer between the
1:41:45
years of 2010 and 2019.
1:41:47
Data shows the largest increases in breast, colorectal,
1:41:50
uterine, pancreatic, and kidney cancers.
1:41:53
Dr. Arif Kamal from the American Cancer Society
1:41:56
joins me now with more.
1:41:57
Doctor, thanks for taking the time.
1:41:59
This is really important to talk about.
1:42:00
Right off the bat, I'd like to have
1:42:03
you give us a little bit more about
1:42:04
the findings and, of course, that all-important
1:42:05
question.
1:42:06
Do we have any idea why we're seeing
1:42:08
an increase in these types of cancers, especially
1:42:10
in younger people?
1:42:12
Dr. Dvorak, do you have any idea?
1:42:13
Is there anything that changed in the past
1:42:15
five years that just might have caused this?
1:42:18
You gotta look at the dates they gave
1:42:19
us here.
1:42:20
It's 2010 to 2019, pre-vax.
1:42:24
Oh, is that what he just said?
1:42:26
Yep.
1:42:28
Yeah, this is, frankly, alarming.
1:42:30
We've never seen such a dramatic change in
1:42:33
the number of people being diagnosed with cancer
1:42:35
ever before.
1:42:36
Particularly when people think about cancer, they think
1:42:37
about folks in their 60s and 70s.
1:42:40
He's talking like it's now.
1:42:43
I think they fudged these dates.
1:42:46
In 2019, 2 million Americans between 15 and
1:42:52
49 years of age were diagnosed with cancer
1:42:55
between the years of 2010 and 2019.
1:42:58
Data shows the largest increases in breast, colorectal,
1:43:01
uterine, pancreatic, and kidney cancers.
1:43:04
Dr. Arif Kamal from the American Cancer Society
1:43:06
joins us.
1:43:06
It's very strange.
1:43:07
They may have just thrown that in, you're
1:43:09
right, just to kind of throw us off,
1:43:12
like, oh, that was 10 years ago.
1:43:14
So your report now is about something that
1:43:16
happened 10 years ago?
1:43:17
This doctor seems to be talking about now.
1:43:20
Yeah, this is, frankly, alarming.
1:43:21
We've never seen such a dramatic change in
1:43:24
the number of people being diagnosed with cancer.
1:43:26
And I say that because if it was
1:43:28
alarming, it would have been alarming 10 years
1:43:30
ago.
1:43:30
And we were doing this show 10 years
1:43:32
ago.
1:43:32
No, not 10 years ago.
1:43:33
2019 is only 6 years ago, but it's
1:43:35
beside the point.
1:43:36
It's 6 years ago, so 6 years is
1:43:37
a long time.
1:43:38
Yeah, there would have been alarming reports then,
1:43:40
and there weren't.
1:43:42
Yeah, this is, frankly, alarming.
1:43:43
We've never seen such a dramatic change in
1:43:46
the number of people being diagnosed with cancer
1:43:48
ever before, particularly when people think about cancer,
1:43:51
they think about folks in their 60s and
1:43:52
70s.
1:43:53
This is really people under the age of
1:43:54
50.
1:43:54
And if you look at these types of
1:43:56
cancers, it's a mix of cancers that can
1:43:57
be screened, like colorectal cancer and breast, but
1:43:59
others like pancreas cancer and uterine cancer that
1:44:02
don't.
1:44:03
I think it's really important for people under
1:44:04
the age of 50 to think about the
1:44:05
three B's is what I call them.
1:44:07
So it's bumps, bleeding, and burns.
1:44:10
And so for bumps, you think about breast
1:44:11
cancer and pancreas cancer, things that you might
1:44:14
feel on your body that feel a little
1:44:16
off, you should bring that up to your
1:44:17
doctor.
1:44:17
In terms of bleeding, kidney cancers and colorectal
1:44:20
cancers can lead to early bleeding that people
1:44:23
might think is hemorrhoidal bleeding, but that should
1:44:24
be brought up to their doctors.
1:44:25
And lastly, burns.
1:44:26
We know that skin cancer continues to go
1:44:28
up, particularly melanoma, so paying attention to where
1:44:30
you're getting burns, cutting down on that, and
1:44:32
pointing out abnormal lesions to your doctors is
1:44:34
really important.
1:44:35
And then the second part of this, and
1:44:36
I'm curious about your clip, this is it's
1:44:39
the women.
1:44:40
According to this study, doctor, 63% of
1:44:43
the early onset cancers were among women.
1:44:45
Do we know why women are more affected?
1:44:48
Yeah, a lot of theories right now.
1:44:49
It's an overall trend, not only for younger
1:44:52
people, but we're seeing overall women are being
1:44:54
more diagnosed with cancer than men before.
1:44:56
That's also a pretty remarkable shift.
1:44:58
It used to be quite a bit more
1:44:59
men were diagnosed in the last 20 years.
1:45:01
We're not completely sure why.
1:45:02
There are some hypotheses related to unhealthy weight
1:45:05
or diet or environmental factors.
1:45:07
It's important more research is needed, but it
1:45:09
is also important to remember that some of
1:45:12
these things are screenable, like the breast cancers.
1:45:14
We're seeing that some of the rates of
1:45:16
return back to mammograms after COVID have returned
1:45:19
in some communities back to baseline levels, but
1:45:21
not everywhere.
1:45:22
So it's really important women out there start
1:45:24
their mammograms at age 40 and go every
1:45:25
year or every other year as well.
1:45:27
But you said after COVID, that's not between
1:45:30
2010 and 2019.
1:45:31
Nope.
1:45:31
By the way, Dr. Curry recommends thermography, not
1:45:37
mammography.
1:45:37
Most women agree.
1:45:40
Thermal.
1:45:40
You can do thermal.
1:45:41
You're not a doctor.
1:45:42
No, I'm not.
1:45:42
I said Dr. Curry.
1:45:44
Do you know Dr. Curry?
1:45:45
I didn't say me.
1:45:46
I said Dr. Curry.
1:45:47
Oh, okay.
1:45:48
Well, we have the same situation only not
1:45:51
with cancers, but with strokes.
1:45:54
This morning, the number of young people experiencing
1:45:56
strokes is on the rise.
1:45:58
You hear about it, but you just never
1:46:00
think this is going to happen to me.
1:46:03
Last April, at just 23 years old, Ann
1:46:05
Folk was folding laundry at home when she
1:46:07
felt half of her body go numb.
1:46:10
Half of my body was totally immobilized on
1:46:13
the left side and on my right side,
1:46:16
it felt like as if I was having
1:46:18
a seizure that was uncontrollable.
1:46:21
And then I also had a very severe
1:46:23
migraine in my head as well.
1:46:25
After a friend called 911, she was rushed
1:46:28
to Endeavor Health Northwest Community Hospital.
1:46:30
I think you're playing the second clip first.
1:46:32
I'm sorry, I didn't realize there were two.
1:46:35
Yeah, well, you're playing the one that's miswritten
1:46:38
that says, stroke.
1:46:40
Yes, because, let me just tell you.
1:46:42
But there's an actual clip that says stroke.
1:46:44
Okay, just so you know, when I look
1:46:47
at the, when you are talking about a
1:46:49
clip, I start at the top.
1:46:50
Yeah, I know what you do.
1:46:51
But let me just explain it so people
1:46:52
don't think I'm a dummy because I keep,
1:46:54
I've played two wrong clips here.
1:46:56
No, this is true.
1:46:57
Let me pre-explain your explanation.
1:47:01
Adam does, to make the show work, we
1:47:05
have to, we cue each other and Adam
1:47:07
is looking for, when I start talking about
1:47:09
a clip, he finds the clip before I'm
1:47:11
finished with my sentence and usually has it
1:47:14
cued up ready to go.
1:47:15
Yes.
1:47:15
But he does it in alphabetical order so,
1:47:17
and he knows I make spelling mistakes because
1:47:19
of the nature of the way I type.
1:47:21
Just a few!
1:47:23
And so, I usually correct him, but sometimes
1:47:26
I don't.
1:47:26
And so he goes down the list and
1:47:28
he sees droke.
1:47:30
Yes.
1:47:30
And so he figures, okay, this is the
1:47:32
clip that's going to be, I'm going to
1:47:33
play this clip.
1:47:34
It's the droke clip.
1:47:34
He didn't notice the two on there because
1:47:36
he just took it for granted because he
1:47:38
didn't see anything else.
1:47:38
He didn't see a one, but there is
1:47:40
a stroke one clip down below.
1:47:42
I'm sorry.
1:47:43
So that is, we're codependent when it comes
1:47:49
to making mistakes.
1:47:50
Different strokes for different drokes, John.
1:47:54
But this is the way, that's the only
1:47:56
reason the show works as well as it
1:47:58
does because we're in anticipation, usually, which is
1:48:03
why it's annoying when the clean feed goes
1:48:06
dead and I try to interrupt and I
1:48:08
can't.
1:48:09
I just call back to the early part
1:48:11
of the show.
1:48:12
So let's go to the original clip, which
1:48:14
starts us off because there's a gotcha in
1:48:17
there.
1:48:22
Wait a minute.
1:48:23
Wait a minute.
1:48:24
It's Pride Month.
1:48:26
It's Pride Month.
1:48:29
I don't want to share my strokes with
1:48:31
the pride or vice versa.
1:48:33
That's unfair.
1:48:43
Chief Medical Correspondent Dr. Tara Narula is here
1:48:45
to explain all this.
1:48:46
Good morning, Dr. Narula.
1:48:47
Good morning, George.
1:48:48
That's right.
1:48:49
Doctors are seeing more strokes in patients under
1:48:51
45 and the reasons may surprise you and
1:48:54
the reasons may surprise you.
1:48:55
You're about to hear from two young women.
1:48:58
Did you double that up?
1:49:00
I doubled that up because the reasons won't
1:49:03
surprise you and she really never gives any
1:49:06
reasons in this entire report.
1:49:07
It's bull crap.
1:49:08
Patients under 45 and the reasons may surprise
1:49:11
you and the reasons may surprise you.
1:49:14
You're about to hear from two young women,
1:49:16
both in their early 20s, who never thought
1:49:18
it could happen to them.
1:49:20
Here's their story.
1:49:21
So the reasons may surprise you and we
1:49:24
don't hear the actual reasons.
1:49:25
Let me go.
1:49:26
I'm guessing our next clip is droke ABCBS.
1:49:30
Yes, the droke one that brings in some
1:49:32
guy who kind of thinks maybe this maybe
1:49:35
there's no reasons.
1:49:36
They're not surprising anybody.
1:49:38
This morning the number of young people experiencing
1:49:41
strokes is on the rise.
1:49:43
You hear about it but you just never
1:49:45
think this is going to happen to me.
1:49:47
Last April, at just 23 years old, Ann
1:49:50
Folk was folding laundry at home when she
1:49:52
felt half of her body go numb.
1:49:54
Half of my body was totally immobilized on
1:49:58
the left side and on my right side
1:50:00
it felt like as if I was having
1:50:02
a seizure that was uncontrollable and then I
1:50:06
also had a very severe migraine in my
1:50:08
head as well.
1:50:10
After a friend called 911 she was rushed
1:50:12
to Endeavor Health Northwest Community Hospital in Chicago
1:50:15
where doctors confirmed she was suffering from a
1:50:18
stroke from a blood clot on the right
1:50:20
side of her brain.
1:50:22
For Aubrey Hasley she was just 22 when
1:50:24
she too had a stroke last June.
1:50:27
I had really loud ringing in my ears
1:50:29
for a couple of seconds and I guess
1:50:33
it kind of freaked me out because my
1:50:34
balance was so off and I was just
1:50:36
falling over anytime I tried to stand up.
1:50:39
Aubrey receiving care at the same hospital doctors
1:50:41
performing a thrombectomy to remove a clot.
1:50:45
While most strokes still affect older adults, the
1:50:47
latest CDC data shows a sharp increase in
1:50:50
stroke related hospitalizations for people under 45.
1:50:54
One recent report indicating a nearly 15%
1:50:57
rise over the past decade.
1:50:59
The same risk factors that you see in
1:51:01
elderly you also see it now in younger
1:51:03
like high blood pressure, high cholesterol more stress
1:51:06
on the patient long working hours.
1:51:08
So we think this could probably contribute to
1:51:11
the rise in stroke in younger people.
1:51:13
Because of Ann and Aubrey's quick action, they
1:51:15
are both now in recovery and doing well.
1:51:18
Just be aware that it could happen to
1:51:20
anyone of any age to definitely look out
1:51:24
for those signs.
1:51:26
The bottom line here strokes can happen at
1:51:27
any age.
1:51:28
If you or someone around you is experiencing
1:51:30
sudden numbness or having trouble speaking or difficulty
1:51:33
walking, call 911 immediately.
1:51:36
The faster you act the better the outcome.
1:51:38
That was really eye opening.
1:51:40
Really eye opening.
1:51:42
Hold on.
1:51:44
What was the reason that will surprise you?
1:51:47
There was no reason that surprised me other
1:51:49
than blood clots.
1:51:51
They throw this stuff in at the beginning
1:51:53
of this report and the reasons will surprise
1:51:56
you.
1:51:56
It's just a hook and it's bull crap.
1:51:59
These are the crappy mainstream media techniques that
1:52:03
are old fashioned and should be abandoned.
1:52:07
Why don't they just say it was because
1:52:08
they asked these two women if they had
1:52:12
the vaccine and they had boosted.
1:52:14
I mean I would like to know that
1:52:15
personally.
1:52:15
I'm still stuck on it being Pride Stroke
1:52:17
Month.
1:52:20
It's Pride Stroke Month.
1:52:22
I think I have an ABC Stroke Report
1:52:25
as well.
1:52:25
Let me see if it's the same.
1:52:26
Stroke is the leading cause of it.
1:52:29
Okay.
1:52:30
Your No Agenda Show has something that may
1:52:36
be part of it.
1:52:40
This is COVID stuff.
1:52:41
I'm sorry.
1:52:42
None of us are over the trauma of
1:52:44
it.
1:52:45
We all know people who have gotten the
1:52:47
vax.
1:52:47
We know people who didn't take the vax.
1:52:50
We know people who still take the vax.
1:52:52
We know people who regret taking it.
1:52:54
There's all kinds of people.
1:52:55
It's the rainbow.
1:52:57
It is the rainbow of vaccination.
1:53:00
Do you remember former Pfizer Vice President Dr.
1:53:03
Mike Yeadon?
1:53:04
We played him.
1:53:05
Yes, I do.
1:53:06
He was like, no, this is probably not
1:53:08
a good product.
1:53:09
It's not great.
1:53:10
So he is back on the scene and
1:53:14
forewarned.
1:53:15
It's not nice to hear.
1:53:17
There has not been a pandemic.
1:53:19
Dennis Rancourt's data shows that the all-cause
1:53:23
mortality data did not increase at all in
1:53:27
the run-up to the declaration fraudulently by
1:53:30
WHO of a pandemic.
1:53:32
There is no public health emergency except that
1:53:34
created by our government.
1:53:37
Inappropriate, fraudulent PCR tests were used to give
1:53:41
people the impression that they had a particular
1:53:43
disease where they didn't.
1:53:44
There were all the normal diseases.
1:53:46
Hold on.
1:53:46
Stop the clip.
1:53:47
Is this just a summary of the No
1:53:49
Agenda Show for the last five years?
1:53:52
Yes.
1:53:52
This is a summary.
1:53:55
It's only a minute.
1:53:56
And then he gives us the bad news.
1:53:57
There were all the normal diseases.
1:54:01
And then what happened was in three different
1:54:03
ways people were treated badly through changed medical
1:54:06
procedures that were imposed above the level of
1:54:09
nation.
1:54:10
Briefly, mass ventilation of people inappropriately in hospitals
1:54:15
that led to lots of deaths.
1:54:17
In care homes, many people were given sedatives
1:54:20
and respiratory depressants, which led to their deaths.
1:54:23
My PhD was specifically in that area of
1:54:26
opiates and respiratory depression.
1:54:28
And in the community, people were denied life
1:54:30
-saving antibiotics and died of bacterial pneumonia.
1:54:35
There's your pandemic.
1:54:36
There was no other pandemic.
1:54:38
And based on this lie, we were told
1:54:40
that vaccines were coming our way and would
1:54:42
be our saviour.
1:54:44
Two things.
1:54:45
As I say, first, there's no pandemic, so
1:54:47
you certainly don't need an experimental or rushed
1:54:49
medical intervention.
1:54:51
But secondly, even if you did, as someone
1:54:53
who's worked in the industry for over 30
1:54:55
years, I am telling you, it's absolutely impossible
1:54:58
to invent, test, clinically evaluate, and manufacture, and
1:55:04
then launch on global scale a complex biomedical
1:55:07
product.
1:55:08
It's absolutely impossible.
1:55:10
It's not as close.
1:55:11
It's years wrong.
1:55:13
Okay, so that was indeed the summary right
1:55:15
down to...
1:55:16
Remember, we went to Vegas for the Super
1:55:18
Spreader event, and there's that hospital there and
1:55:20
all of the ventilator trainers, the people who
1:55:24
train people and instruct them how to use
1:55:26
ventilators, and they were telling me, like, man,
1:55:29
I don't want to lose my job, but
1:55:30
we're killing people with this stuff.
1:55:31
We're doing it wrong.
1:55:32
We're doing everything exactly the opposite of what
1:55:34
we think we should be doing.
1:55:36
So yes, that was a summary of what
1:55:38
we discussed during COVID when people cared about
1:55:41
us.
1:55:41
Now we're just wrong about everything.
1:55:43
Now we're just wrong.
1:55:44
You're wrong.
1:55:45
Now we're wrong because of Ukraine and the
1:55:47
Jews.
1:55:47
Wrong side of history, man.
1:55:48
Yeah, exactly.
1:55:50
But here comes the downer.
1:55:52
The fastest record price of this was six
1:55:54
years, and friends of mine who've worked all
1:55:56
their lives in manufacturing with complex biological products
1:56:00
tell me the methods of development alone for
1:56:04
the developments of a reproducible manufacturing process itself
1:56:08
takes a number of years.
1:56:10
So whatever it is you think was done,
1:56:12
I am telling you it was not the
1:56:14
development of a proper medical product.
1:56:18
What I think happened was the advancement of
1:56:22
materials that are intentionally toxic, and then it
1:56:26
was sketchily advanced and jammed into people's arms,
1:56:30
often coerced, sometimes even mandated, with the unsurprising
1:56:34
effect that millions of people have died.
1:56:37
So I think having heard what I've just
1:56:40
said, that there was no pandemic, and the
1:56:42
line was maintained in order to inject people
1:56:45
en masse, I think five and a half
1:56:47
billion people with an intentionally dangerous substance, 17
1:56:51
million of whom have died so far.
1:56:55
There you go.
1:56:56
It's just the guy who used to be
1:56:58
a vice president at Pfizer.
1:56:59
Pay no attention to him.
1:57:01
17 million he says?
1:57:03
That's what he says, yeah.
1:57:05
I'm going to give you a borderline clip
1:57:07
for that.
1:57:08
You know, I will take a borderline clip
1:57:10
from you.
1:57:16
By the way, we have next Sunday will
1:57:19
be a Best of Clips of the Day
1:57:22
show of the Noah Taylor Show.
1:57:24
That should be fun.
1:57:26
I will say this about the borderline, I
1:57:28
would have given you maybe Clip of the
1:57:30
Day if it sounded better.
1:57:32
It was one of those Zoom calls.
1:57:34
Here's if President Trump would just say, in
1:57:42
hindsight, I did everything that I was supposed
1:57:45
to do.
1:57:46
I got warp speed going.
1:57:48
We rushed this out.
1:57:51
It wasn't a good shot.
1:57:53
He talks about the fat shot, this shot.
1:57:56
If he would just say that, he would
1:57:58
endear so many people.
1:58:01
He would piss off a lot of people,
1:58:04
but it would bring clarity to the world.
1:58:09
I'd prefer him to say those five words,
1:58:13
it was a lousy shot.
1:58:17
Then I care more about the Epstein or
1:58:20
the JFK or honestly, even if there's an
1:58:23
ice wall at the edge of the flat
1:58:25
Earth.
1:58:27
Firmament first, maybe.
1:58:29
I believe within his personality to do this.
1:58:34
I think you're right.
1:58:35
I don't think that the system is set
1:58:40
up that they would use that against him
1:58:42
in some way or shape or form.
1:58:44
They're already trying to make him anti-American
1:58:47
as we discussed earlier.
1:58:50
It's just probably not a good idea.
1:58:56
In fact, it's only outliers, and I would
1:58:59
put ourselves in that category, who even bring
1:59:02
up clips like the one you just played.
1:59:04
And you know why that is?
1:59:05
That's because we don't take advertising.
1:59:08
That's the whole reason.
1:59:09
That's exactly why.
1:59:09
And with that, I'd like to thank you
1:59:11
for your currency in the morning to you,
1:59:12
the man who put the sea in climatize.
1:59:15
Say hello to my friend on the other
1:59:16
end, the one, the only Mr. John C.
1:59:20
Devorah.
1:59:25
Hey, in the morning, I'm currently with some
1:59:28
Rafi in the air, subs in the water,
1:59:29
the dames and knights out there and all
1:59:31
the dames and knights out there.
1:59:32
Yes.
1:59:33
In the morning to the trolls in the
1:59:35
troll room.
1:59:36
Catch you for a second.
1:59:40
2,294 listening live.
1:59:42
We'll do it live.
1:59:43
Hello, trolls.
1:59:44
Bad trolls are active today.
1:59:45
They're good.
1:59:46
Actually, those trolls in the troll room, troll
1:59:48
.io, they're listening on the modern podcast apps.
1:59:51
We had a meetup yesterday and and a
1:59:56
girl who sings at our church was there,
1:59:59
Holly.
2:00:00
And I say, Holly?
2:00:01
She says, yeah.
2:00:02
I said, what are you doing here?
2:00:03
Well, I listened to the show.
2:00:05
She said, you listened to the show?
2:00:06
She says, yeah, no, I heard about it
2:00:09
and then I went looking on Amazon.
2:00:11
What?
2:00:13
You're not on Amazon?
2:00:14
You're listening on, yeah, I have an Amazon
2:00:16
podcast app.
2:00:17
I said, okay.
2:00:18
You need to go to podcast apps.com
2:00:21
and get a real podcast app.
2:00:23
My goodness.
2:00:24
Yeah, I couldn't find everything.
2:00:25
No, of course not.
2:00:27
They'll take stuff off.
2:00:28
They'll even take episodes off, like Spotify.
2:00:31
They delete episodes all the time.
2:00:33
It's a known fact.
2:00:34
It's a known secret unspoken fact in the
2:00:38
podcast industrial complex.
2:00:39
They don't need all this aggravation with all
2:00:40
these extra everything on there.
2:00:43
I mean, they're not an archivist.
2:00:44
I don't blame them.
2:00:45
I'd take it off too if I was
2:00:46
Spotify.
2:00:48
Yeah?
2:00:49
Yeah, you'd be Swedish.
2:00:51
So, yeah, get a modern podcast app.
2:00:53
It's a lot of fun.
2:00:54
They're much better, you know, to alert you
2:00:57
when we're going live.
2:00:58
You can't listen to a live stream on
2:01:00
an Amazon podcast app.
2:01:02
It's just not going to happen, or on
2:01:03
Apple or Spotify.
2:01:04
What does she think of the show?
2:01:05
She's now a listener.
2:01:06
She loves the show.
2:01:08
In particular, the first thing she said is,
2:01:11
is John coming?
2:01:14
But she hasn't listened long enough.
2:01:16
No, I'm like, you're pretty new to the
2:01:19
show.
2:01:20
By the way, let me just give you
2:01:22
a quick meetup report.
2:01:23
This was fantastic.
2:01:24
This was at Bar 1776.
2:01:27
That's Jenny, the J6er.
2:01:29
That's her bar.
2:01:30
You know, she also has the full moon,
2:01:33
I think it's full moon bed and breakfast.
2:01:36
Currently, five rooms have been inhabited for over
2:01:39
a year by paroled January 6 people whose
2:01:43
lives were destroyed.
2:01:44
They were in jail for several years and
2:01:46
of course came out and like, there's nothing
2:01:47
left.
2:01:48
And so she's taking care of them.
2:01:50
And Matt and Gail Long, they organized this.
2:01:53
They've been doing it.
2:01:53
They're going for twice a year.
2:01:55
Last one was in October.
2:01:57
Many of the No Agenda luminaries were there.
2:02:01
And when I say that I mean Dirty
2:02:03
Jersey Whore, Sir Brian with a Lie, Rob
2:02:07
Ducifer, the Infowars producer with his lovely wife,
2:02:10
Trish.
2:02:11
And they left their 18 human resources at
2:02:13
home.
2:02:14
Rob, the constitutional lawyer who, he's my height.
2:02:20
He's beefier than I am.
2:02:22
He has a big white cowboy hat on.
2:02:25
And people are like, oh, you're Rob, the
2:02:28
constitutional lawyer?
2:02:29
Awesome.
2:02:30
I love him.
2:02:32
Trinidad was there.
2:02:34
He's kind of like a Bruno Mars type
2:02:36
dude.
2:02:37
He's of some Hispanic descent.
2:02:42
His shirt's open.
2:02:43
He's got gold chains.
2:02:45
He's got a cool hat.
2:02:47
He had a Polaroid, one of those modern
2:02:49
Polaroids.
2:02:49
You ever seen those, the tiny ones that
2:02:51
you can pick up at some Gen Z
2:02:56
store?
2:02:57
Yeah.
2:02:58
Taking Polaroids.
2:02:59
And he said, oh, I bought a fire
2:03:01
truck.
2:03:02
Yeah, he bought a really nice fire truck,
2:03:06
like an OG, not an old school one,
2:03:09
but you know, the kind you see driving
2:03:10
around Manhattan.
2:03:11
Yeah, he says, I think it's going to
2:03:13
be worth more than Bitcoin.
2:03:15
And then, Jamie and Alyssa, who were from
2:03:21
Dallas, they came down, young couple.
2:03:24
They had not one, not two, but three
2:03:28
trap babies.
2:03:32
Honest to God, trap babies.
2:03:33
The youngest was three weeks old.
2:03:37
Man, what a great family.
2:03:38
You just look at them like, wow.
2:03:40
That's America to me, Jamie and Alyssa.
2:03:42
You guys are the best.
2:03:45
As an experiment, which worked out really well,
2:03:48
Matt invited one of his buddies who has
2:03:53
a barbecue outfit.
2:03:55
He's got a real smoker with wood.
2:03:59
He throws wood in there.
2:04:00
He was burning.
2:04:01
What was he burning?
2:04:05
What's the nut tree?
2:04:07
The pecan.
2:04:09
Pecan, yeah, that's big in that area.
2:04:11
Yeah, pecan wood.
2:04:13
And he did.
2:04:13
Sometimes they use the shells.
2:04:15
So he said, Matt, the guy is not,
2:04:19
he's no agenda listener now, but he'd never
2:04:20
listened before.
2:04:22
And Matt said, you're going to do a
2:04:23
barbecue and it's going to be value for
2:04:24
value.
2:04:25
The guy's like, what is that?
2:04:26
You just put the food out and the
2:04:27
people will give you money.
2:04:28
He's like, okay.
2:04:34
Honor bar for barbecue.
2:04:36
He did okay.
2:04:37
I checked after.
2:04:38
He said he did okay.
2:04:39
He loved it.
2:04:40
He loved the value for value model.
2:04:43
He thought it was really great.
2:04:45
And I'll tell you, Rob gave me a
2:04:47
lowdown on this Supreme Court habeas corpus thing,
2:04:51
which we'll talk about.
2:04:52
Anyway, it was a great meetup.
2:04:53
Thank you all for being there.
2:04:55
Not a lot of people were donating in
2:04:57
person.
2:04:58
I think some of them will show up
2:04:59
on the spreadsheet.
2:04:59
These are all donors.
2:05:00
Not a single one is not a donor.
2:05:03
Who was the guy who said, hey man,
2:05:05
I'm on a fixed income, but here's $5.
2:05:07
That was very nice.
2:05:08
Actually, we got you know, the BioPros had
2:05:15
given two bags of BioSeptic Pro.
2:05:19
What you called the goo for your septic
2:05:21
tank.
2:05:22
Oh, you finally got some.
2:05:24
Yes.
2:05:24
And with a check for 222.22, which
2:05:28
is five number twos.
2:05:29
Got it.
2:05:30
And two bags of BioSeptic Pro for you
2:05:32
to try.
2:05:34
He says BioSeptic Pro is not a goo,
2:05:37
John, but a powder that is activated when
2:05:40
it comes in contact with water.
2:05:42
It was created by a scientist who engineered
2:05:43
the microbes and a retired chemical engineer from
2:05:46
Pittsburgh, Plate Glass, who created the delivery medium.
2:05:50
It's like probiotics for your septic tank.
2:05:52
And that BioPros.com Sir Ducifer gave us
2:05:59
each $20 cash.
2:06:01
So I have an envelope for you.
2:06:03
Send to the globalists in your life, he
2:06:05
says.
2:06:06
And we both got $154 for the show.
2:06:12
And from Gaucho Woodworking, Robert Stack from Gaucho
2:06:16
Woodworking, he made us each a beautiful cutting
2:06:19
board.
2:06:20
I thought that they were in LA.
2:06:23
Somehow I got to Sir Ducifer.
2:06:27
We've gotten some cutting boards in the past.
2:06:29
This one is, I mean, yours has too
2:06:32
many eggs on it, ingrained in the wood.
2:06:35
That would be Mimi's then.
2:06:37
It's for you.
2:06:38
It's for you.
2:06:39
And Tina has promised she's going to send
2:06:42
it off.
2:06:42
So I'm going to send this to John.
2:06:44
She probably will.
2:06:45
She will.
2:06:46
Yes, she will.
2:06:46
She's like that.
2:06:49
So that's just many ways that we share
2:06:51
and value for value.
2:06:52
Another way that can be done is through
2:06:54
the work that many people do, like organizing
2:06:57
a meetup.
2:06:58
Matt Long organizes meetups.
2:06:59
Got to love him for that.
2:07:01
Or you could make some artwork for us.
2:07:03
We love our art.
2:07:05
And the No Agenda artists are always hard
2:07:07
at work during the live show.
2:07:09
Some are hard at work.
2:07:10
Some just type a lot.
2:07:12
Like Darren O'Neill.
2:07:14
Or like Darren O'Neill.
2:07:18
I was right.
2:07:20
Who did the artwork for episode 1764 titled
2:07:23
Rage Quit.
2:07:25
Then this was it looked like it was
2:07:29
a cutout of a newspaper.
2:07:30
No Agenda presents the JCD TikTok show by
2:07:34
Curry and Dvorak, the latest hip videos deconstructed.
2:07:38
And we just got to admit, besides the
2:07:40
fact that there's no white in these AI
2:07:43
images, which you correctly pointed out, when you
2:07:47
really got it down like Darren, it's good.
2:07:51
It's getting hard to beat.
2:07:53
Again, it's part of the muddy complex.
2:07:57
And I've noticed this, even by the one
2:07:59
I use, they use the Please Donate Dog
2:08:01
from Comic Strip Blogger who uses AI.
2:08:04
And if you look at his, which is
2:08:06
right next to Darren's on the sheet, the
2:08:10
No Agenda, Curry and Dvorak is kind of
2:08:14
white, but it's not.
2:08:15
It's kind of muddy white.
2:08:17
Yeah, you're right.
2:08:18
Yeah.
2:08:19
We want an explanation Comic Strip Blogger.
2:08:21
Well, I want an explanation from the AI.
2:08:23
Have the AI explain.
2:08:25
They've got to do something about the dynamic
2:08:28
range of these art pieces.
2:08:31
Yeah, I don't think they can.
2:08:33
No, they have to be.
2:08:35
It's a copy of a copy of a
2:08:36
copy.
2:08:37
It can't be done.
2:08:38
It's done.
2:08:39
There were a number of entrants.
2:08:42
Let's see.
2:08:44
What other things did we discuss?
2:08:47
You liked the Rage Quit one, which I
2:08:50
thought was funny by Darren.
2:08:51
Also by Darren with the Muppet-looking guy.
2:08:54
It was supposed to be me, I guess.
2:08:56
There was a lot of reparations for gingers.
2:09:00
It was funny.
2:09:02
But not really dynamite.
2:09:04
Then a lot of airplanes with bows on
2:09:07
it.
2:09:08
Trump plane.
2:09:10
It still takes a good idea.
2:09:13
I don't care how much AI you have
2:09:16
or if you do it by hand, you
2:09:18
still need to have a good idea.
2:09:23
That's what Darren did.
2:09:24
Was there anything else that we had discussed?
2:09:26
We liked?
2:09:28
I don't think so.
2:09:30
Do you remember?
2:09:32
It was Slim Pickens, I thought.
2:09:35
There's a lot of pieces that I think
2:09:37
could have been used, but in terms of
2:09:39
what we really were attracted to, it was
2:09:41
very narrow.
2:09:42
That's true.
2:09:44
ArtGenerator.com is where you can participate in
2:09:47
this so-called contest, where we do it
2:09:49
every single show.
2:09:51
We're very grateful to our artists in the
2:09:54
No Agenda Nations.
2:09:55
You can get Monation.
2:09:56
We also thank everybody who supports the show
2:09:58
financially.
2:09:59
It's incredibly important that you do that.
2:10:02
I don't care if it's $5 a month.
2:10:04
Whatever you can afford, if you get value
2:10:06
from the show, you should be sending value
2:10:08
back to us.
2:10:09
That's what has kept us going for more
2:10:11
than 17 years now.
2:10:13
We'll thank everybody, $50 and above.
2:10:15
We do like to highlight a Hollywood vibe
2:10:18
that we've developed over the years, which is
2:10:21
the executive and associate executive producers, kind of
2:10:24
like Hollywood where if you actually pay a
2:10:27
lot of money, and we're not talking millions
2:10:30
of dollars, we're talking $200 or above, then
2:10:33
you get an associate executive producer credit, and
2:10:35
we'll read your note.
2:10:36
There's some long notes today.
2:10:39
We try to make it a little short
2:10:41
if possible.
2:10:42
And $300 and above, you get an executive
2:10:43
producer credit, and we'll read your note.
2:10:45
Both of these can be used as official
2:10:47
Hollywood credits.
2:10:48
People do it all the time, including IMDb
2:10:50
.com, universally recognized as the credit repository.
2:10:54
You can see there's over 1,000 people
2:10:56
who have opened up an account and legally
2:10:58
and correctly added their executive or associate executive
2:11:02
producer credit to it.
2:11:03
So we'll kick it off with Ben Nidas.
2:11:05
Ben's been around.
2:11:07
San Francisco, California, 639.33. And he says,
2:11:13
John, sorry John, sorry John, the IRS hit
2:11:17
me hard this year, so could only give
2:11:22
you four silver ounces for the recent meetups.
2:11:25
Did you get four silver ounces?
2:11:29
Four coins that were an ounce each.
2:11:31
Where's mine?
2:11:32
I put it aside.
2:11:34
You'll get it eventually.
2:11:35
By the way, today, no, tomorrow, you know
2:11:38
what tomorrow is?
2:11:38
It's our anniversary.
2:11:39
You know what the anniversary is?
2:11:43
Uh, no.
2:11:44
Five years since we last saw each other
2:11:46
in person.
2:11:48
You've been married for five years?
2:11:50
Tomorrow, yeah.
2:11:51
I don't know where you put it.
2:11:56
It's kind of messed up because I had
2:11:59
a whole day and we're going to stay
2:12:02
overnight in Austin, I'm going to have dinner
2:12:04
at our restaurant when we were dating.
2:12:07
Didn't you have a fancy dinner last week?
2:12:10
No, this is just Tina and myself, but
2:12:12
she came down with, I don't know what
2:12:14
it is.
2:12:15
She has the goop It's just in her
2:12:20
head.
2:12:21
No body ache, but she's coughing and congested
2:12:25
and we're traveling next weekend, so I'm like,
2:12:29
I don't think we should go.
2:12:31
Which is a bummer.
2:12:32
But yes, it is our Oh, that sucks.
2:12:36
It really does.
2:12:37
We were looking forward to it.
2:12:39
You clear the decks, no meetings, no nothing,
2:12:42
then this happens.
2:12:44
So that's why I then remembered that's the
2:12:48
last time we saw each other face to
2:12:50
face.
2:12:51
It's probably a good thing.
2:12:52
Yes, definitely.
2:12:55
And he says, John, on your birthday the
2:12:57
Troy ounce was worth $33.
2:12:59
The image of you rocking back and forth
2:13:01
in the chair was too disturbing to imagine.
2:13:04
I'm not quite sure what he's referring to
2:13:05
here.
2:13:06
It was the rage quit bit.
2:13:11
Oh, remember?
2:13:14
Yes, I remember.
2:13:14
And he wants some chemtrails and fluoride in
2:13:17
your cup.
2:13:19
Chemtrails.
2:13:20
It's hard waking up.
2:13:22
Is fluoride in my cup?
2:13:24
There you go.
2:13:25
You got some fluoride in your cup, brother.
2:13:27
Andrew Gibbon in Darlington, UK, 420.
2:13:31
It's not 420, but maybe he came in
2:13:33
at whatever, but he doesn't have a note.
2:13:34
This came in over Stripe, no note, which
2:13:37
gives him a double up karma.
2:13:38
And he's from the GBs.
2:13:40
You've got double up karma.
2:13:43
Which brings us to Jason Roman from Eatontown,
2:13:47
New Jersey, 338.22. He says, this is
2:13:50
a switcheroo donation on behalf of our wonderful
2:13:53
son Nicholas Roman, who graduated from Rutgers.
2:13:57
Hold on a second.
2:13:58
Let me make sure we get that switcheroo
2:13:59
in there.
2:14:01
Graduated from Rutgers University last week.
2:14:03
I'll soon be a dude named Ben.
2:14:04
As if graduating wasn't enough to accomplish this
2:14:07
year, the 321.25 plus fees donation also
2:14:11
celebrates the birth of Nick's daughter and our
2:14:13
first grandchild, Francesca Rose Roman, who came into
2:14:17
the world on 321.25. See, numbers are
2:14:20
important.
2:14:22
So what gift do you get for a
2:14:23
young man who has it all?
2:14:25
He's got a degree.
2:14:26
He's got a kid.
2:14:28
Presumably a wife.
2:14:30
Of course, a producer credit for the best
2:14:31
podcast in the universe.
2:14:33
We are so proud of the man he
2:14:34
has become.
2:14:35
Listening to the No Agenda podcast has been
2:14:37
such a positive influence on him and has
2:14:39
kept our family grounded and always seeking the
2:14:42
truth.
2:14:43
Remember, families that N-A together stay together.
2:14:47
I love hearing that.
2:14:49
I'd like to request some goat karma for
2:14:50
him, his girlfriend Christine, and the rest of
2:14:53
the family.
2:14:53
For jingles, can we have Trump Massive Dumps.
2:14:57
I got that.
2:14:58
That's for Nick.
2:14:59
And two favorites of mine, Rule Follower and
2:15:03
John's Creepy Yeah Yeah Yeah Yeah.
2:15:05
Do you remember what we titled the Yeah
2:15:07
Yeah Yeah Yeah?
2:15:08
Yeah Yeah Yeah Yeah.
2:15:10
Yeah.
2:15:11
I was trying to find it earlier and
2:15:14
is it John?
2:15:15
No, I can't.
2:15:16
Do you know how many times we have
2:15:18
a...
2:15:19
Oh, I have it here.
2:15:20
Okay.
2:15:20
Oops, I just found it.
2:15:22
Here we go.
2:15:22
They did dumps.
2:15:24
They call them dumps.
2:15:25
Big massive dumps.
2:15:26
I'm a Rule Follower, so if the rule
2:15:28
is that we have to do it, then
2:15:30
I'll do it.
2:15:31
Yeah Yeah Yeah Yeah.
2:15:33
Yeah Yeah Yeah Yeah.
2:15:34
No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
2:15:36
No, no, no, no, no, no.
2:15:38
No, no, no, no.
2:15:39
And he ends by saying hope you guys
2:15:40
can make it to the East Coast for
2:15:42
a meet up a few times before you
2:15:43
wrap it up.
2:15:44
Thank you for your courage.
2:15:45
Four more years.
2:15:46
Love is lit.
2:15:47
J.
2:15:47
Roman, a.k.a. Mappy.
2:15:49
Thank you, Mappy.
2:15:51
Then we go to Bowman McMahon in San
2:15:54
Antonio, Texas where it's 105.
2:15:57
Yeah.
2:15:58
We're not even climatized.
2:16:00
Here's a simple message.
2:16:01
Thank you for your courage, he writes.
2:16:03
Nice.
2:16:04
Ara Dadarian, Tribuco Canyon.
2:16:06
Ara back on the stick.
2:16:08
$250 associate executive producership.
2:16:11
Not his first.
2:16:12
And says thank you for an outstanding product.
2:16:14
And thank you.
2:16:15
We appreciate you, Ara.
2:16:17
Well, that gives you the next one to
2:16:18
read because it blows out my spreadsheet on
2:16:21
my small monitor.
2:16:23
Consider a larger monitor.
2:16:24
ITM Gents says Daniel Peruzzo from Courtenay, British
2:16:29
Columbia.
2:16:30
Candonavia 238 60.
2:16:32
Now is that?
2:16:33
Oh, that he's going to be moved up
2:16:35
because this is indeed a 333.33 Candonavian
2:16:40
donation not only to support the best podcast
2:16:43
in the universe but also to help spread
2:16:44
the word about a groundbreaking intervention.
2:16:46
Wow, 333.33 is now 238?
2:16:50
And 60 cents.
2:16:52
Oh my god.
2:16:54
He wants to help spread the word about
2:16:55
a groundbreaking invention with the potential to revolutionize
2:16:59
energy production.
2:17:00
Well, I'm listening.
2:17:04
Zero point energy.
2:17:06
This innovation could bring an end to endless
2:17:07
financial drain of the climate agenda that will
2:17:10
burden many future generations perhaps hold an end
2:17:12
to the never-ending wars and bring real
2:17:14
relief to those who need it most.
2:17:16
Dream on.
2:17:17
My name is Dan Peruzzo.
2:17:18
I'm a small-time video producer in Courtenay,
2:17:20
B.C. I recently did an interview with
2:17:22
Dr. Andrea Rossi in Rome who has created
2:17:25
a device called ECATS, the energy catalyzer that
2:17:29
produces electricity in self-sustaining mode.
2:17:33
You mean like a perpetual motion?
2:17:37
Which means it can create energy without the
2:17:39
need for fuel.
2:17:41
This is based on the concept of L
2:17:43
-E-N-R.
2:17:44
Right up your alley.
2:17:45
I love this.
2:17:46
Low Energy Nuclear Reaction.
2:17:49
A.K.A. Cold Fusion.
2:17:51
This is awesome.
2:17:53
Which was first introduced to the world in
2:17:55
the late 80s by scientists Pons and Fleischmann
2:17:57
but swiftly headed into the dustbin of controlled
2:17:59
conspiracy theories.
2:18:01
John's rolling his eyes.
2:18:03
You can find the video titled ECATS the
2:18:05
new fire on my website solutionsunincorporated.com Not
2:18:10
my best work but I really wanted to
2:18:11
get the word out that this tech is
2:18:12
real and close to market.
2:18:14
However, I do have concerns.
2:18:16
By the way, anti-gravity any minute.
2:18:21
Energy is a multi-trillion dollar industry.
2:18:23
I will assume those who control the sector
2:18:24
would not care for this technology to see
2:18:26
the light of day like many other inventions
2:18:27
that have mysteriously disappeared right before they hit
2:18:29
the market.
2:18:30
Think Nikola Tesla, Stanley Meyer, Tom Ogle, Yul
2:18:33
Brown, Royal Reif, and the list goes on.
2:18:35
My fear is the same will happen to
2:18:37
Dr. Rossi's ECAT.
2:18:38
Although he has secured investors and moved from
2:18:40
development to manufacturing I could easily see being
2:18:43
tied up in bureaucratic red tape or being
2:18:45
bought up by a jeez by a shell
2:18:50
corporation and filed away into the oops how
2:18:53
did that get lost drawer.
2:18:54
Oh my god, how much more do you
2:18:55
have here bro?
2:18:56
Okay.
2:18:58
Anyway, ECAT new fire on his website solutions
2:19:02
unincorporated.
2:19:03
I'll take a look for sure.
2:19:05
No jingles good karma for all and please
2:19:07
call out our freshly installed Prime Minister Mark
2:19:09
Carney as a douchebag.
2:19:12
Alright brother, thank you very much.
2:19:13
I'm a fan, I'm a fan.
2:19:18
Oh, I'm sorry.
2:19:20
That was quite a long note.
2:19:21
Onward with William Messing in Vashon, Washington 233.
2:19:28
This is an associate executive producer.
2:19:29
Donation from my lifelong friend Sir Chris of
2:19:33
Carmel.
2:19:34
Please play a Reverend L jingle.
2:19:38
Oh, I got one.
2:19:43
R-E-S-P-I-C-T R
2:19:45
-E-S-P-I-C-T By the
2:19:46
way I'm trying to read through the rest
2:19:47
of that note that he sent that didn't
2:19:48
fit on your spreadsheet or mine.
2:19:50
He says, hey man, let me get Dana
2:19:53
Brunetti to do a movie about him.
2:19:57
Yeah.
2:19:58
That would be quite cool.
2:20:00
Brunetti!
2:20:01
Brunetti, you're up man.
2:20:04
Okay, where are we?
2:20:06
We are at Sean Holman.
2:20:09
No, I'm sorry, Baron Victor.
2:20:11
I'm going to tell you about Baron Victor.
2:20:13
Baron Victor from Corvallis, Oregon 231.
2:20:17
Hello from Baron Victor of the Willamette Valley.
2:20:19
I was just noting that I was first
2:20:21
knighted on 3 20 2012.
2:20:23
I am now a Baron and also a
2:20:26
Commodore.
2:20:27
I wear my ring every day.
2:20:29
ITM.
2:20:30
Thank you brother.
2:20:30
And ITM to you.
2:20:33
Sean Holman in Noblesville, Indiana 21911.
2:20:37
And he says, Book of Acts Acts Acts
2:20:43
Chapter 5, verses 40 through 42.
2:20:47
Trust in his promise.
2:20:48
So you should go read that.
2:20:50
I have read it actually.
2:20:52
It has something to do with our donations.
2:20:54
Yes.
2:20:55
I completely trust in his promise.
2:20:57
That's right.
2:20:58
But he's saying it for you.
2:21:00
He's saying it for me?
2:21:02
Yeah.
2:21:02
He's trying to bring you back to the
2:21:05
kingdom, you lapsed Catholic.
2:21:07
People will try.
2:21:08
It's what we do.
2:21:08
It's the Great Commission.
2:21:10
Coming in with $205.18 There he is.
2:21:14
Our supplier.
2:21:16
The man who gives us the buzz.
2:21:18
Eli the coffee guy Bensonville, Illinois.
2:21:21
The new sad puppy in the newsletter got
2:21:23
to me.
2:21:24
AI is taking over and it's even replaced
2:21:26
the OG sad puppy.
2:21:28
What is the world coming to?
2:21:30
He's got a point.
2:21:32
Can I get some jobs karma for the
2:21:34
start of another another great farmer's market season?
2:21:39
Yes.
2:21:39
To all producers in the Chicagoland area.
2:21:42
He goes to the big farmer's market there.
2:21:44
That's what you do.
2:21:47
If you're serious.
2:21:47
Farmer's markets are great.
2:21:49
We have one here every Thursday.
2:21:51
Let me stop for a second.
2:21:53
Are you going to say something about the
2:21:55
farmer's markets around here?
2:21:57
There's a couple of good ones.
2:21:59
Most of them are a blatant rip off.
2:22:03
The one in Emory does in Kensington that
2:22:07
takes place in the morning of the show.
2:22:08
They just a couple of bakeries.
2:22:10
There's like guys bakeries and other people there
2:22:12
and their prices are the bakeries are the
2:22:15
same as at the bakery but the vendors
2:22:17
of the strawberries and all the rest of
2:22:20
it.
2:22:20
They jack up the price.
2:22:22
The farmer's market is supposed to be a
2:22:23
way to get rid of the middleman and
2:22:25
get a deal.
2:22:26
You're supposed to get a deal.
2:22:28
If you go to Georgia, you go to
2:22:29
Atlanta, Georgia.
2:22:29
I've been to the farmer's market there.
2:22:31
It's like a good deal.
2:22:32
You're not getting ripped off.
2:22:34
You're getting the farmer's prices.
2:22:35
These around here, especially in the San Francisco
2:22:38
Bay Area, I'd say the one at the
2:22:39
Ferry Building and elsewhere and the one in
2:22:42
Kensington for example are just a jip.
2:22:45
They're a rip off.
2:22:46
They add two or three bucks to the
2:22:48
price because it's from the farmer.
2:22:49
Bull crap.
2:22:51
Well, we have a farmer's market here which
2:22:54
is not bull crap.
2:22:55
Unfortunately, it's on Thursday so I can never
2:22:57
attend it.
2:22:59
And when I was in Austin, I still
2:23:01
miss Farmer Chris with the eggs.
2:23:04
I miss Farmer Chris's eggs.
2:23:07
To continue with Eli the Coffee Guy, he
2:23:09
says to all producers in the Chicago area,
2:23:12
I hope to see you at our tent
2:23:13
sometime this summer and visit our website on
2:23:15
the social nets to see where we'll be.
2:23:18
For everybody else a little further afield, don't
2:23:20
miss out on all the fun.
2:23:21
Visit gigawattcoffeeroasters.com and use code ITM20 for
2:23:26
20% off your order.
2:23:27
Thank you for your courage and stay caffeinated,
2:23:29
says Eli the Coffee Guy.
2:23:32
This brings us to Stephen Anders who's in
2:23:34
Munchen, Munich, Deutschland.
2:23:37
Hello Munchen, Deutschland.
2:23:38
Here's the Hoff.
2:23:40
200 bucks, he doesn't have a note so
2:23:42
we'll give him a double up karma.
2:23:43
Yes, we will.
2:23:45
Send the note.
2:23:48
It's probably Stefan.
2:23:51
Stefan Anders in Munchen.
2:23:53
And last on the list, she's always on
2:23:55
the list that we love her for it,
2:23:56
associate executive producer credit again, Linda Lou Patkin
2:24:00
from Lakewood, Colorado.
2:24:01
$200 and she wants Jobs Karma and she
2:24:03
reminds us all, for a faster job search
2:24:06
with a resume that gets results, go to
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Image Makers Inc.
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for all of your executive resume and job
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That's imagemakersincwithak.com and work with Linda Lou,
2:24:16
Duchess of Jobs, and she is also the
2:24:18
writer of resumes.
2:24:19
Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.
2:24:22
Let's vote for jobs.
2:24:24
You've got karma.
2:24:27
I was talking to Sir Ducifer because he
2:24:31
knows the probiotic what is it, not probiotic
2:24:36
what are they called?
2:24:39
thebiopros.com I said does anyone buy this
2:24:43
stuff?
2:24:43
He said oh yeah gangbusters What?
2:24:48
From their donation they've donated a couple times.
2:24:51
Oh, you're talking about the septic tank crap?
2:24:55
The non-goo stuff.
2:24:56
Yes, the septic tank crap, John, exactly.
2:25:02
And he said oh yeah people love it.
2:25:06
Suppose if it works, they would.
2:25:08
Well, I'm not putting it in my septic
2:25:10
until I talk to Paul the septic guy.
2:25:13
Paul is You should always consult with a
2:25:15
septic tank expert before adding stuff to your
2:25:18
septic system.
2:25:19
He will either say wow, that's interesting or
2:25:21
get out of here with that nonsense.
2:25:24
What if he says give me a bag?
2:25:26
I'll give him a bag.
2:25:26
I've got two bags.
2:25:28
I'll give him a bag.
2:25:29
Straight up.
2:25:30
Paul is no nonsense.
2:25:32
He's like a Ted Nugent guy.
2:25:34
Hey, hey man.
2:25:35
Yeah, I went to see the Nuge the
2:25:37
other day.
2:25:40
Paul is an awesome dude.
2:25:42
You know that Ted Nugent is still not
2:25:44
in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame?
2:25:45
No, of course not because he's a Ted
2:25:48
Nugent.
2:25:49
Of course he's not.
2:25:50
And you know what?
2:25:50
I think he refuses.
2:25:52
He refuses now because they won't let him
2:25:55
in.
2:25:55
Of course.
2:25:55
Once they let Abba in it's like okay,
2:26:00
why?
2:26:01
Thank you all very much to our executive
2:26:03
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2:26:04
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Our formula is this.
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We go out.
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We hit people in the mouth.
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Shut up slave.
2:27:02
Shut up.
2:27:05
Yes.
2:27:06
I have a series of US you know
2:27:08
our government versus Harvard.
2:27:10
Yes.
2:27:11
Yes.
2:27:12
Harvard.
2:27:13
Harvard.
2:27:13
Let me just recap.
2:27:16
So this is really about President Trump saying
2:27:19
hey you guys you jacked up the prices
2:27:22
on admissions.
2:27:23
You got hundreds of billions of dollars in
2:27:25
endowments.
2:27:25
You don't pay any tax on it.
2:27:27
You're a bunch of elitist globalists.
2:27:29
I'm going to screw you for ideological reasons.
2:27:34
How is he screwing him?
2:27:35
He's just not giving them government money.
2:27:37
It's a private institution.
2:27:38
Why do they deserve government money?
2:27:41
I'm saying this because I'm asking you.
2:27:42
Well they don't but I'm saying this because
2:27:45
that's what was on the clip earlier.
2:27:46
It's a callback baby.
2:27:48
So let's play this and see what's the
2:27:51
complaint now.
2:27:53
The Trump administration's feud.
2:27:54
Stop the clip already.
2:27:57
Another NPR hate non-Trump clip.
2:28:00
The Trump administration's feud with major American universities
2:28:03
escalated this week.
2:28:05
The federal anti-Semitism task force notified Harvard
2:28:08
that $450 million of the school's research grants
2:28:12
are being cut.
2:28:13
And that's on top of the $2.2
2:28:15
billion that had previously frozen.
2:28:18
Laura Barone Lopez spoke with one of the
2:28:20
affected researchers.
2:28:22
Jane Brugge, the director of Harvard's Ludwig Cancer
2:28:25
Center.
2:28:26
Dr. Brugge, you've been working for years on
2:28:29
breast cancer research.
2:28:30
Tell me what type of research exactly are
2:28:33
you doing and the type of progress that
2:28:35
you've made?
2:28:35
In my lab, the ultimate goal of our
2:28:39
research efforts is to find better ways to
2:28:41
detect and to destroy cancer in its tracks.
2:28:45
And the Breast Cancer Research Project that is
2:28:48
funded by a National Cancer Institute grant that
2:28:51
is currently frozen specifically aims to identify and
2:28:55
profile the earliest precursors or harbingers of breast
2:28:59
cancer before these precursors become cancer.
2:29:03
Oh, they're doing important work.
2:29:06
National Cancer Institute fund, is that, so in
2:29:09
other words, that doesn't really exist?
2:29:10
That's just government money?
2:29:11
Is that what you're saying?
2:29:13
I'm not sure it sounds like it.
2:29:16
So $400 million is not going to Harvard
2:29:18
because there are a bunch of Jew haters?
2:29:20
And so she's whining because the national, yeah,
2:29:23
that's the reason.
2:29:25
Yeah, that's the reason.
2:29:28
Is that the only reason?
2:29:30
Well, nobody, like, it's also, you know, this
2:29:34
could be a money grab.
2:29:35
Yeah, it could be, just possibly.
2:29:37
So the goal then is to develop methods
2:29:39
to detect these early precursors and then design
2:29:42
treatments that prevent them from becoming cancer.
2:29:45
So that means, say, if someone had one
2:29:48
of those, what's known as a BRCA gene,
2:29:50
that you could help stop that in its
2:29:52
tracks?
2:29:54
Yes, this would allow us to monitor the
2:29:56
development or the expansion of these early precursors.
2:30:00
And even before we had treatments for them,
2:30:03
we could be able to tell when they're
2:30:06
starting to expand, and that would be the
2:30:08
cue for those women to have the prophylactic
2:30:11
breast cancer mastectomies.
2:30:14
How important, ultimately, are federal grants in the
2:30:17
work that you do?
2:30:19
I would say federal grants are the most
2:30:20
important contributors to our research effort.
2:30:25
There just isn't enough money from foundations or
2:30:29
partnerships with companies to cover the amount of
2:30:34
research that there's opportunities to pursue.
2:30:38
There's an interesting tell in that.
2:30:41
The tell, or the interesting point here, there's
2:30:46
not enough non-profits, basically what she said,
2:30:51
or companies that are even interested in stopping
2:30:55
cancer.
2:30:56
Of course they're not.
2:30:59
It's a boondoggle.
2:31:01
Whatever they develop, though, it's those companies that
2:31:04
make the profits.
2:31:05
Yeah, but if they cure cancer...
2:31:08
Oh, they're not curing cancer.
2:31:10
By the way, on the quad box right
2:31:13
now, former President Biden diagnosed with, quote, aggressive
2:31:18
prostate cancer.
2:31:19
It's in his bones.
2:31:21
It's in his bones?
2:31:23
Yeah.
2:31:23
That's not where prostate cancer usually goes, but
2:31:26
okay.
2:31:27
It says Biden diagnosed with, quote, aggressive, unquote,
2:31:31
prostate cancer, has spread...
2:31:32
I think he did get the vaccine.
2:31:34
Has spread to his bones.
2:31:37
Before you go on, this complaining, this is
2:31:40
440 million bucks, I think, that the government's
2:31:43
pulling, saying, nah, screw it.
2:31:45
Yeah.
2:31:46
I know you probably don't know this off
2:31:48
the top of your head, but, for example,
2:31:49
let's look at the top 10 pharma companies
2:31:53
and their net profit.
2:31:56
What was the profit made by, let's say,
2:31:58
the top one, Johnson & Johnson, in 2024?
2:32:01
What was the profit?
2:32:03
How many dollars did they end up in
2:32:05
their coffers at the end of the year?
2:32:10
Profits, though.
2:32:10
It's after they've paid for everything.
2:32:12
Yeah, everything's all taken care of.
2:32:14
Everything's just pure.
2:32:16
Are they a public company, Johnson & Johnson?
2:32:18
Yes, of course.
2:32:19
I would say...
2:32:23
$23 billion.
2:32:25
That's high.
2:32:26
But it's $18 billion.
2:32:28
And every other of the top 10 is
2:32:30
$15 billion or more.
2:32:32
It's $15 billion, $16 billion, $17 billion.
2:32:34
These are billions and billions.
2:32:36
Hold on a sec.
2:32:37
So what you're saying is they should...
2:32:38
If you've got $18 billion, $17.5 billion's
2:32:43
okay.
2:32:45
Shouldn't they be giving that to Harvard?
2:32:47
$10 billion is okay, and they can give
2:32:49
$8 billion to Harvard.
2:32:51
But they don't give any billion to Harvard.
2:32:53
They do.
2:32:54
It's not talked about in this report.
2:32:56
Neither is it talked about in this report
2:32:58
by Lopez.
2:32:59
How much money these pharma companies are just
2:33:02
making.
2:33:03
They're making bank.
2:33:05
You can go to the top 20, and
2:33:06
it's all in the multi-billions, you know,
2:33:09
from $10 billion to $18.
2:33:10
Excuse me.
2:33:11
You're thinking that Lopez is going to ask
2:33:13
a question that might look bad of the
2:33:16
pharmaceutical industry?
2:33:18
Please.
2:33:19
Do I think that?
2:33:20
What do you think?
2:33:21
No, I don't think so.
2:33:23
But the point is that this whining anti
2:33:26
-Trump, oh, it's his fault, is bullcrap.
2:33:29
With termination of, say, for instance, the grant
2:33:32
to our lab, we would have to...
2:33:35
We wouldn't have the money to fund salaries
2:33:37
for the postdoctoral fellows or trainees.
2:33:41
They're doing the work.
2:33:42
We lose the money necessary to buy supplies
2:33:45
for these studies and to pay for the
2:33:47
technology.
2:33:47
I'll buy pencils.
2:33:48
Hold on a second.
2:33:50
How about taking just the annual interest on
2:33:57
your $100 billion endowment?
2:33:59
Gosh, it's about 60, 50 to 60 billion.
2:34:02
Okay.
2:34:02
I'll be honest about it.
2:34:03
Okay.
2:34:04
Do you think there's $400 million in there?
2:34:08
At least a billion, yeah.
2:34:09
These are trainees and research scientists that are
2:34:11
doing the work.
2:34:12
We lose the money necessary to buy supplies
2:34:14
for these studies and to pay for the
2:34:16
technologies, and this would severely impede progress towards
2:34:21
our goal, especially when we're so close.
2:34:23
We've actually identified these cells that we think
2:34:27
are the earliest precursor to cancer, and so
2:34:30
we wouldn't be able to develop the methods
2:34:34
so that this work would have impact in
2:34:36
the community.
2:34:37
I never imagined that there would be a
2:34:40
cross-board cut in research that could have
2:34:43
such important implications for the general well-being
2:34:47
of the United States.
2:34:49
If research like yours is ultimately cut off,
2:34:52
what effect would it have on everyday Americans
2:34:55
and the work that you and others do
2:34:59
at Harvard?
2:35:00
There would be a really significant delay advancing
2:35:03
all of the research findings that we've made
2:35:06
to date, and so this would slow down
2:35:09
the development of therapies depending on how long
2:35:13
and how broadly these cuts are applied, but
2:35:16
there are a lot of other consequences, like
2:35:18
the reduction in research funding would reduce the
2:35:21
pipeline of disease-impacting discoveries from U.S.
2:35:25
academic institutions to pharmaceutical companies that then translate
2:35:29
the discoveries into treatments and cures for diseases.
2:35:33
So industry relies on these discoveries.
2:35:36
We would also lose our competitive edge and
2:35:38
leadership in the world.
2:35:39
Laboratories in other countries would have a significant
2:35:41
competitive edge if the discoveries are made outside
2:35:44
the United States.
2:35:47
What a crock.
2:35:49
You know, now that I think about it,
2:35:51
I'm just looking at Biden, I'm thinking about
2:35:53
Trump, and I'm thinking about you.
2:35:55
You really know a lot of stuff.
2:35:57
You should run for president.
2:35:58
You've got at least 15 years to become
2:36:00
president.
2:36:01
Yeah, I do.
2:36:02
I've got time ahead with something like that.
2:36:05
Yeah, you would be great.
2:36:06
This is a nonsense complaint.
2:36:09
$440 million and they say pharmaceutical companies aren't
2:36:15
going to get the benefit of our research.
2:36:16
The pharmaceutical companies should be giving you the
2:36:19
$440 million.
2:36:20
It's not a big deal when they're making
2:36:21
$18 billion a year at minimum, and that's
2:36:26
one of 20 or 30 of these companies.
2:36:28
The other thing, it's just ludicrous, and then
2:36:32
you have your own endowment.
2:36:33
This whining and to get backed up by
2:36:36
PBS and this Lopez woman, it's just pathetic.
2:36:41
How dumb do they think the public is
2:36:44
to fall for this?
2:36:45
Well, the public isn't watching that.
2:36:47
Well, they are.
2:36:50
They're not watching, they're not listening.
2:36:51
There's a lot of people that watch and
2:36:53
listen to this crap.
2:36:54
Yeah, or are they listening to our show?
2:36:56
I don't know.
2:36:59
We've got the cognoscenti.
2:37:01
The cognoscenti?
2:37:02
The cognoscenti?
2:37:04
Yeah.
2:37:05
I'm writing it down.
2:37:09
I want a t-shirt.
2:37:09
I'm a cognoscenti.
2:37:11
You are.
2:37:12
You're actually a cognoscenti.
2:37:14
You know, this whole, we don't have any
2:37:15
clips about it, but the whole Comey 8647
2:37:18
shells on the beach deal.
2:37:20
It's funny we don't have any clips.
2:37:22
Yeah, because we're both like...
2:37:23
That's all Fox talked about.
2:37:25
Eye roll.
2:37:26
But I like the coincidence that when he
2:37:31
posted that picture, it had been 8,647
2:37:35
days since September 11th, 2001.
2:37:39
I don't know who came up with it,
2:37:42
but what is James Comey really trying to
2:37:45
tell us?
2:37:48
Oh, that's an interesting boinky dink.
2:37:50
Yeah, there's no coincidences in the kingdom.
2:37:53
Yes, everything seems to be anti-Trump.
2:37:57
Kill the president, 8647.
2:37:59
He's no good.
2:38:00
He's horrible.
2:38:02
He's racist.
2:38:03
He's a white nationalist.
2:38:05
He criticizes the country from afar.
2:38:08
African News did a positive little, well, only
2:38:11
a minute, but they had a positive wrap
2:38:13
-up of his deals.
2:38:15
The deals he did for us, people.
2:38:17
United States President Donald Trump wrapped up his
2:38:20
Middle East tour on Friday that saw him
2:38:22
visit Saudi Arabia, Qatar and with a last
2:38:25
stop in the United Arab Emirates.
2:38:27
In this first visit to the UAE by
2:38:29
a US president since 2008, the two countries
2:38:32
pledged to strengthen ties and announced deals totaling
2:38:36
over $200 billion.
2:38:38
This includes a partnership with the UAE to
2:38:41
build a massive AI data center in its
2:38:43
capital Abu Dhabi and for the Gulf state
2:38:45
to buy advanced AI semiconductors from US companies.
2:38:49
Its 80 head airways is said it'll buy
2:38:51
28 US-made Boeing aircraft in a deal
2:38:54
worth $14.5 billion while Abu Dhabi, the
2:38:57
UAE's capital, pledged to hike the value of
2:39:00
its energy investments in the US to $440
2:39:03
billion in the next decade.
2:39:05
The four-day trip was very much focused
2:39:07
on business and resulted in a string of
2:39:09
lucrative deals for both Washington and the three
2:39:12
countries.
2:39:13
Trump boarded Air Force One in Abu Dhabi
2:39:15
on Friday giving his signature fist bump before
2:39:18
heading back home having shifted Washington's focus from
2:39:21
Israel to the wealthy Gulf states.
2:39:24
Yeah.
2:39:25
Give those Nvidia chips to the Arabs.
2:39:29
What are they going to do with them?
2:39:31
I guess because they have cheap power, is
2:39:32
that the idea?
2:39:34
I think so.
2:39:35
They'll be training the models in the desert.
2:39:38
Training the models in the desert.
2:39:40
So I have a couple of clips here
2:39:43
about tariffs which I do want to get
2:39:45
out of the way.
2:39:47
ABC will kick it off with Senator Rand
2:39:49
Paul who is, this is his shining moment
2:39:53
everybody.
2:39:54
This is all unconstitutional.
2:39:56
It's no good.
2:39:58
We can't have this.
2:39:59
He's not a team player right now which
2:40:03
is his good right.
2:40:03
Has he ever been a team player?
2:40:05
No.
2:40:05
But we could have used him I think
2:40:07
now.
2:40:08
I just want the taxes on tips to
2:40:11
go away, man.
2:40:12
Make one of these millennials be quiet.
2:40:15
Let me turn to tariffs.
2:40:18
The president also announced a temporary reduction to
2:40:22
those big China tariffs.
2:40:23
So there's still 30% tariffs on goods
2:40:26
coming in from China as he negotiates, tries
2:40:29
to negotiate a new deal.
2:40:31
Walmart has warned that this will result in
2:40:34
higher prices.
2:40:35
What's your assessment?
2:40:38
Well, tariffs are taxes.
2:40:40
No.
2:40:42
I really despise this line.
2:40:45
Tariffs are taxes.
2:40:47
No.
2:40:48
They're not.
2:40:49
John, are tariffs taxes?
2:40:51
No, they're tariffs.
2:40:52
They're tariffs.
2:40:53
That's why they have a different name.
2:40:55
Yes, well, tariffs are taxes.
2:40:59
Well, tariffs are taxes and when you put
2:41:01
a tax on a business, it's always passed
2:41:03
through as a cost.
2:41:04
So there will be higher prices.
2:41:06
And I think this is what's important to
2:41:07
know.
2:41:08
People talk about, oh, this is America versus
2:41:10
China.
2:41:11
The U.S. doesn't trade with China.
2:41:14
You trade with Walmart or you trade with
2:41:16
Target or you trade with Amazon.
2:41:18
Americans go in and buy a product.
2:41:20
Now, it might come from China, but think
2:41:22
about it this way.
2:41:23
Think of the entire trade with China was
2:41:25
all TVs.
2:41:26
A million people go to Walmart.
2:41:28
They all buy a TV.
2:41:29
They like the quality.
2:41:30
They like the price.
2:41:31
And it happened to come from China.
2:41:32
But then you draw a circle around China
2:41:35
and the U.S. and you say, oh
2:41:36
my goodness, it's a trade deficit.
2:41:37
We buy all of our TVs from over
2:41:39
there.
2:41:40
But each individual transaction, each individual who bought
2:41:43
a TV was happy.
2:41:45
But how can you draw a circle around
2:41:46
a million happy people and say they all
2:41:48
got ripped off?
2:41:49
So there's an economic fallacy here.
2:41:51
And the fallacy is that trade deficits actually
2:41:53
mean anything.
2:41:55
They're an artificial accounting.
2:41:57
The only trade that means anything is the
2:41:58
individual who buys something.
2:42:00
That's the only real trade.
2:42:02
And that, by very definition, if it's voluntary,
2:42:04
is mutually beneficial or the trade doesn't occur.
2:42:07
This is the worst economic analysis I've ever
2:42:10
heard.
2:42:12
This is typical of the economics of an
2:42:14
ophthalmologist.
2:42:16
I want to play something that President Trump
2:42:18
said just recently, specifically talking about our trade
2:42:21
deficit with Canada.
2:42:24
Take a listen.
2:42:26
Why are we subsidizing Canada $200 billion a
2:42:29
year or whatever the number might be?
2:42:31
It's a very substantial number.
2:42:32
And it's hard for the American taxpayer to
2:42:35
say, gee whiz, we love doing that.
2:42:38
The actual trade deficit with Canada is actually
2:42:41
a little less than, or quite a bit
2:42:43
less than $100 billion.
2:42:44
But even so, is a trade deficit subsidizing
2:42:47
Canada?
2:42:48
He should say yes, because if tariffs are
2:42:51
taxes, then you have to call the opposite
2:42:54
subsidies.
2:42:55
That would be fair if he said that.
2:42:59
No, they're really not related at all.
2:43:02
What happens if we trade with another country
2:43:03
because they have less expensive goods is we
2:43:06
become richer.
2:43:07
There's all kinds of things that happens to
2:43:08
that extra money, but you are richer because
2:43:11
you've gotten a product at a lower cost.
2:43:13
This is the other fallacy they put forward.
2:43:15
They say, oh, the middle class is being
2:43:17
hollowed out.
2:43:18
If you look at the middle class over
2:43:19
70 years, the middle class is about the
2:43:22
same as it was 70 years ago.
2:43:24
The one segment of our economy that has
2:43:26
grown is those making over $100,000 a
2:43:28
year, and that has tripled.
2:43:30
So most of the middle class, if the
2:43:31
middle class shrunk at all, actually went to
2:43:34
an upper class.
2:43:35
If you say upper class begins at $100
2:43:37
,000.
2:43:38
So most of this is just fallacy.
2:43:40
We have gotten rich, rich, rich off of
2:43:43
trade, all Americans, and it is lifting all
2:43:45
boats, and we are richer than we have
2:43:47
ever been in any time in our history.
2:43:50
But it's not easy to convince people of
2:43:51
that, because those short-term problems where you
2:43:54
have inflation during the last four years, where
2:43:57
the middle class actually did lose purchasing power
2:43:59
and did get poorer.
2:44:00
But if you look at it in the
2:44:01
long term, it's not trade causing this.
2:44:03
The thing that makes us poorer, if anything,
2:44:05
would be inflation and the general rise of
2:44:08
prices from inflation.
2:44:09
Well, he's right there, yes.
2:44:12
And I think the inflation he's talking about
2:44:14
is money creation.
2:44:15
But come on, Rand Paul.
2:44:18
Come on.
2:44:20
Why is he doing this?
2:44:21
And he's wrong.
2:44:23
His premise is also somewhat wrong because a
2:44:26
lot of it, he says, the public doesn't
2:44:28
trade with China.
2:44:29
Yes, we do.
2:44:30
Of course we do.
2:44:30
Anyone with a Timu or Xian accounts, and
2:44:34
there's millions and millions of people in the
2:44:36
public who are trading directly with China.
2:44:38
Yeah.
2:44:39
And a lot of the stuff you even
2:44:41
buy from Amazon is coming directly from China.
2:44:44
The public is trading directly with China.
2:44:47
Yes.
2:44:48
And the stuff you get is crap.
2:44:50
A lot of it is pure junk.
2:44:52
It's not making anybody richer.
2:44:54
It's making people poorer.
2:44:56
You get junk in your house.
2:44:58
And then you've got to buy another copy.
2:45:00
Yeah.
2:45:01
It fell apart.
2:45:03
I've got to buy another one.
2:45:04
Now we need to move to Scott Besant.
2:45:07
And he joined your pal Kristen Welker.
2:45:12
She's your pal, right?
2:45:14
Manhands, yeah.
2:45:15
Oh no, Kristen Welker.
2:45:16
Yes.
2:45:17
Yes.
2:45:17
I always mix her up with, yeah, I
2:45:20
don't know I can mix her up with
2:45:21
anybody.
2:45:22
Meet the press about the Federal Reserve.
2:45:25
How far, Mr. Secretary, is the president, is
2:45:27
the administration willing to go to prevent CEOs
2:45:30
from increasing prices?
2:45:31
Well, I think what we are hearing here
2:45:34
is that people are saying tax increases are
2:45:38
inflationary.
2:45:39
That when I was testifying before Congress last
2:45:43
week, one of the congressmen said that.
2:45:47
And I said, well, congressman, if taxes are
2:45:49
inflationary, let's cut taxes.
2:45:51
So let's get this tax bill done, bring
2:45:53
down taxes, which, according to this line of
2:45:56
thinking, should be disinflationary.
2:45:58
But the Federal Reserve has said that tariffs
2:46:00
are inflationary.
2:46:01
Just to be very clear, you said you
2:46:04
called Walmart.
2:46:06
Is that what CEOs can expect?
2:46:08
That you, that the president, that other members
2:46:10
of the administration will apply pressure to try
2:46:13
to prevent them from passing on these prices
2:46:14
to CEOs?
2:46:15
I didn't apply any pressure.
2:46:19
Doug and I have a very good relationship,
2:46:22
so I just wanted to hear it from
2:46:23
him rather than second, third hand from the
2:46:27
press.
2:46:27
And again, as I said, this is all
2:46:29
from their earnings call.
2:46:30
And on an earnings call, you have to
2:46:32
give the worst case scenario.
2:46:35
Kristen, to go back to what you said,
2:46:36
the Federal Reserve is not saying that tariffs
2:46:38
will cause inflation.
2:46:40
They're saying they're not sure and that they're
2:46:42
in wait-and-see mode.
2:46:43
That's interesting.
2:46:45
I've not heard the investor call, so it
2:46:47
isn't necessarily true that Walmart said, we've got
2:46:51
to raise prices!
2:46:51
They said, we may have to raise prices
2:46:53
depending on the market situation.
2:46:56
See how that gets twisted around?
2:46:58
Well, the news media picked it up and
2:46:59
ran it as though it was a slogan.
2:47:02
When in fact, Walmart is never going to
2:47:05
promote that.
2:47:05
They used to always have, oh, we're lowering
2:47:07
prices back to whatever.
2:47:08
They're not going to go out and promote,
2:47:10
hey, we've raised our prices, come visit us.
2:47:12
Come shop!
2:47:15
And Kristen, why didn't Kristen say, as a
2:47:18
gay man, do you hate working for that
2:47:20
homophobe, Donald Trump?
2:47:22
I'm waiting for that question!
2:47:24
Let's start right there with Moody's downgrading the
2:47:28
nation's credit rating, and they do cite the
2:47:30
debt.
2:47:30
I want to read you a little bit
2:47:31
of what Moody says.
2:47:32
Data!
2:47:33
It says, quote, if the 2017 Tax Cuts
2:47:36
and Jobs Act is extended, which is our
2:47:38
base case, it will add around $4 trillion
2:47:41
to the deficit over the next decade.
2:47:45
Several Republicans, Mr. Secretary, are citing similar concerns.
2:47:49
Does the President's tax bill need to do
2:47:51
more?
2:47:52
Wait a minute, so that's $400 billion a
2:47:54
year?
2:47:55
No.
2:47:57
Wait.
2:47:58
Yes.
2:47:59
Over 10 years, $4 trillion.
2:48:02
A trillion is $1,000 billion.
2:48:05
Yeah, it would be $400 a year, yeah.
2:48:07
But that's what we send to Ukraine!
2:48:11
What is that?
2:48:13
I don't like it when they do that.
2:48:14
Yes, this is another trick I've heard a
2:48:18
lot of times.
2:48:18
We haven't discussed it.
2:48:19
We haven't brought it up.
2:48:20
But it's common.
2:48:22
Yeah, it's going to cost the country $2
2:48:24
trillion over 10 years.
2:48:27
$2 trillion over 5 years.
2:48:29
$2 trillion over 100 years.
2:48:31
I mean, what's it going to cost?
2:48:34
And by the way, over 10 years, $400
2:48:37
billion will be like $100 billion today with
2:48:42
inflation.
2:48:43
Secretary are citing similar concerns.
2:48:45
Does the President's tax bill need to do
2:48:48
more to address the nation's debt and deficit?
2:48:51
Well, Kristen, first of all, I think that
2:48:54
Moody's is a lagging indicator.
2:48:56
I think that's what everyone thinks of credit
2:48:58
agencies.
2:48:59
Larry Summers and I don't agree on everything,
2:49:01
but he said that when they downgraded the
2:49:04
U.S. in 2011.
2:49:07
So it's a lagging indicator.
2:49:10
And just like Sean Duffy said with our
2:49:12
air traffic control system, we didn't get here
2:49:14
in the past 100 days.
2:49:16
It's the Biden administration and the spending that
2:49:19
we have seen over the past four years.
2:49:22
We inherited 6.7% deficit to GDP,
2:49:26
the highest when we weren't in a recession,
2:49:29
not in a war, and we are determined
2:49:32
to bring the spending down and grow the
2:49:34
economy.
2:49:35
Yeah, but Mr. Secretary, you talk in all
2:49:37
kinds of numbers and complicated things.
2:49:39
What about Walmart rising prices?
2:49:40
Let me ask you about Walmart, this big
2:49:42
news from Walmart.
2:49:43
It says it will start- Let's get
2:49:44
back to what people care about, Mr. Secretary.
2:49:46
Raising prices on its consumers, Mr. Secretary, as
2:49:50
early as this month due to the tariffs.
2:49:52
Now, President Trump out with a very stern
2:49:55
warning on social media saying Walmart will eat
2:49:58
the tariffs, adding the company made far more
2:50:01
than expected last year.
2:50:03
Is the president asking American companies to be
2:50:06
less profitable?
2:50:07
I was on the phone with Doug McMillan,
2:50:09
the CEO of Walmart, yesterday, and Walmart is
2:50:13
in fact going to the, as you described
2:50:16
it, eat some of the tariffs that just
2:50:22
as they did in- Wow, what did
2:50:24
he just eat?
2:50:34
He just swallowed his tongue or something.
2:50:39
Just as they did in 18, 19, and
2:50:43
20.
2:50:44
The other thing, though, that we are seeing,
2:50:46
that Doug passed along to me, that with
2:50:49
their consumer, the single most important thing is
2:50:52
the gasoline price, and gasoline prices have gone
2:50:55
up and collapsed under President Trump.
2:50:57
So, we are seeing that.
2:50:59
The other thing that will happen, that is
2:51:02
a direct tax cut for consumers.
2:51:05
Then the transportation costs are also a big
2:51:08
input.
2:51:09
So, let's see what happens.
2:51:12
What you were describing was Walmart's earnings call.
2:51:15
The other thing that companies have to do,
2:51:18
they have to give the worst case scenario
2:51:20
so that they're not sued.
2:51:22
So, I think overall we are seeing a
2:51:25
decline in services, inflation, and we saw inflation
2:51:31
come down for the first time in four
2:51:33
years.
2:51:33
Who advises this guy on his communication skills?
2:51:39
He should say, you've made a storm in
2:51:44
a teacup which may not even exist because
2:51:47
gas prices are going down.
2:51:49
They have to say that on an earnings
2:51:50
call because they have to be transparent and
2:51:53
they have to warn in case they screw
2:51:54
something else up, they can blame it on
2:51:56
Trump.
2:51:58
They did not say they're raising prices, Miss
2:52:03
Newsperson.
2:52:04
That's irritating.
2:52:06
Yeah, he's not the best at this.
2:52:08
I mean, Rubio's the guy, but they won't
2:52:10
bring anybody like Rubio on again.
2:52:12
They're not going to bring on these guys
2:52:13
who call out the post.
2:52:16
You're full of crap.
2:52:17
He's no good.
2:52:18
He's no good.
2:52:19
We can't have that.
2:52:20
We can't have Rubio.
2:52:22
I'm going to show my salute by donating
2:52:23
to No Agenda.
2:52:24
Imagine all the people who could do that.
2:52:27
Oh yeah, that'd be fab.
2:52:29
Yeah, on No Agenda.
2:52:33
In the morning.
2:52:35
Nah, still to come we have John's tip
2:52:36
of the day.
2:52:37
We promise it will not be a repeat.
2:52:39
Neither you nor I caught that.
2:52:41
You had already done the graphics viewer.
2:52:45
Did you get that email?
2:52:46
I had talked about it.
2:52:47
I said at the beginning of the if
2:52:50
you play back the clip, at the very
2:52:53
beginning I said, I've talked about this product
2:52:56
on the show before, but I hadn't given
2:52:58
it as a clip because I did a
2:52:59
search of noagendafund.com.
2:53:03
I did a complete search trying to find
2:53:05
it as a tip, and I couldn't find
2:53:08
it as a tip.
2:53:08
Was it a tip?
2:53:10
No, I had mentioned it a couple of
2:53:12
times ten years ago.
2:53:13
What was your first tip?
2:53:14
What's the thing called again?
2:53:17
Irfanview.
2:53:18
Irfanview.
2:53:19
I'm pretty sure you did give it as
2:53:20
a tip.
2:53:22
It's not on the list that I could
2:53:23
find and I did a deep search.
2:53:26
A deep search?
2:53:27
And the guy himself, the guy who bitched
2:53:29
and moaned and by the way, I'm going
2:53:30
to stop doing these tips if everyone complains
2:53:32
about them.
2:53:32
So the guy says, oh you said it
2:53:34
before, it's the third time you've mentioned it.
2:53:37
Ragequit.
2:53:38
He's ragequitting everybody.
2:53:39
What a ragequit.
2:53:40
Yeah, he's ragequitting.
2:53:41
Well, before you ragequit, would you mind, please,
2:53:44
thanking everybody who supported us with $50 or
2:53:47
more?
2:53:48
I can do that.
2:53:50
And I'll start with Richard J.
2:53:52
Lindquist who came in with $105.35 and
2:53:56
he writes, great newsletter.
2:54:01
I look forward to hearing more about the
2:54:04
resistance.
2:54:06
The resistance.
2:54:07
Kind of a funny bit that was in
2:54:09
that last newsletter.
2:54:10
About the resistance.
2:54:13
Travis Sparks, I don't know why everyone doesn't
2:54:17
subscribe to the newsletter.
2:54:18
Like every newsletter goes out, about five people
2:54:21
quit.
2:54:23
They ragequit!
2:54:24
They do, they ragequit the newsletter.
2:54:26
I don't know, I don't want to read
2:54:27
this.
2:54:28
I don't like the humor.
2:54:32
Travis Sparks in Castle Rock, Washington, $105.35.
2:54:36
Sir Pierre in Farmington, Connecticut, $100.
2:54:40
Thanks for a dynamite product!
2:54:43
That's us.
2:54:45
James Morin in Jackson, California.
2:54:49
That's a nice area.
2:54:51
$100.
2:54:52
He wants some karma.
2:54:53
Where is Jackson, California?
2:54:55
It's up in the foothills.
2:54:56
It's a gold mining area.
2:55:00
Anonymous in Western Springs, Illinois, $100.
2:55:03
Ben McDonald in Spring, Texas, another $100.
2:55:08
Sir Loudpipes in Charlotte, North Carolina.
2:55:11
Don't forget to put karma at the end.
2:55:13
Sir Loudpipes in Charlotte, North Carolina.
2:55:14
And somebody else that don't ragequit.
2:55:16
We're not quitting anything.
2:55:18
Charlotte, North Carolina, $94.
2:55:20
Sir Loudpipes.
2:55:21
He's the baron of Mecklenburg County.
2:55:25
Robert Osegueda.
2:55:27
I don't know.
2:55:29
Osegueda, I think, in Eastern Connecticut, $84.38.
2:55:33
This is boobs with fees.
2:55:37
Poker boobs.
2:55:38
Oh, nice.
2:55:39
Get it?
2:55:40
Yeah, I got it.
2:55:41
James Poulos in Reno, Nevada, $81.96. $81
2:55:45
.96 is the millennial donation.
2:55:48
That's right.
2:55:49
I gotta document these things.
2:55:53
Kevin McLaughlin, there he is, $8008.
2:55:55
He's the Archduke of Lunar Lover America and
2:55:57
boobs.
2:55:58
And comes in with a boob donation.
2:56:00
Gert Eulers.
2:56:05
Eulers.
2:56:06
What do you think?
2:56:07
I don't know.
2:56:08
He's in Belgium.
2:56:08
I'm still looking for your tip of the
2:56:10
day on the Irfan view.
2:56:12
You're not going to find it.
2:56:14
$79.03. He says we rock.
2:56:18
And he's in Belgium.
2:56:19
And he would know.
2:56:22
The Belgians always know.
2:56:25
Zachary Selig in Grosse Pointe Woods, Michigan, $69
2:56:30
.69. Now he is a V4V bakery.
2:56:36
Yeah, these things work, man.
2:56:39
Wagner Rock Toy Box in DeWitt, Iowa, $69
2:56:43
.69. Chad Hewitt in Folsom, California, $66.40.
2:56:49
Isn't Folsom where there's a prison?
2:56:52
It used to have the number.
2:56:54
That's the prison that actually took care of
2:56:57
that prison.
2:56:57
Johnny Cash sang about it, right?
2:56:58
The Folsom Prison Blues?
2:57:00
Yeah, that's where Charlie Manson was for a
2:57:03
while.
2:57:03
When I visited it, Charlie Manson was there.
2:57:05
Didn't get to meet him.
2:57:07
No.
2:57:09
But it was kind of a creepy place,
2:57:11
let me tell you.
2:57:14
Gabriel Adams.
2:57:16
I went there when I was the editor
2:57:19
of InfoWorld for a story about tech.
2:57:24
Tech in the prisons?
2:57:25
Yeah, tech in the...
2:57:27
Well, no, they're teaching prisoners how to code.
2:57:32
Was that an Obama program?
2:57:34
Learn to code in the prison?
2:57:36
This was before Obama.
2:57:38
It was during the Reagan administration.
2:57:41
I was told, once you get in, which
2:57:44
is a pain in the ass to get
2:57:45
in because of the x-ray and everything.
2:57:47
Jesus, it's terrible.
2:57:48
I probably had years worth of radiation.
2:57:51
You get in there, and the first thing
2:57:52
they tell you is never ask any prisoner
2:57:55
why they're here.
2:57:57
No.
2:57:58
Oh, no.
2:57:58
Just don't do that.
2:58:00
That's rule number one.
2:58:02
No, don't do that.
2:58:04
Gabriel Adams in Newport, Tennessee.
2:58:10
6494.
2:58:10
I did Chad Hewitt in Folsom, yeah.
2:58:13
Obviously.
2:58:14
Sir Kevin O'Brien in Chicago.
2:58:16
6006 Small Boobs and Les Tarkowski in Kingman,
2:58:19
Arizona, also.
2:58:20
6006 along with Michael Rogan in Evansville, Indiana.
2:58:26
Sabode Peths.
2:58:30
5809.
2:58:31
He volunteers with the Animal Rescue of New
2:58:34
Orleans.
2:58:35
And the AI kitten was tugging at my
2:58:39
heartstrings to donate.
2:58:41
There you go.
2:58:43
Children, old people, and animals, John.
2:58:46
Next time, let's try a sad granny.
2:58:51
Sir Not Jake in Thompson, Connecticut.
2:58:53
5678.
2:58:56
Kelly Hubbard in Plymouth, Minnesota.
2:59:00
5555.
2:59:02
Sir Josh in Springfield, Missouri.
2:59:05
5518.
2:59:06
Sir, birthday call it for Dame Amanda.
2:59:09
James Edmondson in South Plains, New Jersey.
2:59:13
5510.
2:59:13
Dean Roker, 5510.
2:59:15
Mason Baldwin in Hayden, Alabama.
2:59:18
5377.
2:59:19
Carl Vogler in Dillon Beach.
2:59:22
5272.
2:59:24
Dee, and he calls that a newsletter donation.
2:59:27
Dee Woo in Cape Town, South Africa.
2:59:30
Yo.
2:59:31
Hey, hey, hey.
2:59:33
Cape Town, South Africa.
2:59:36
Tell us what's up, man.
2:59:38
Yeah, what's up?
2:59:39
What's up?
2:59:41
Yeah, tell us what's up.
2:59:43
He's adopting Bitcoin Cape Town 2026 in South
2:59:46
Africa.
2:59:47
Huh.
2:59:48
Whatever that means.
2:59:49
Sir Mix in Fort St. John, BC, British
2:59:52
Columbia.
2:59:54
5272.
2:59:56
Chris Osterhus in Cincinnati, Ohio.
3:00:01
5271.
3:00:01
Now we're at the 50s and we're in
3:00:03
a naming location.
3:00:04
There's really not a lot today, but we
3:00:06
start with Chris Cowan in Austin, Texas.
3:00:09
Hello, Chris.
3:00:10
Scott Lavender.
3:00:10
Did you see him at the meetup?
3:00:12
Nope.
3:00:12
Uh, no, wait.
3:00:13
I think I did.
3:00:15
Why don't...
3:00:16
Chris, I don't know if this is the
3:00:17
same Chris.
3:00:18
I don't think so.
3:00:19
Well, whatever.
3:00:20
Scott Lavender in Montgomery, Texas.
3:00:22
50.
3:00:23
Gregory Kirdik in Padova, Italy.
3:00:27
Oh.
3:00:28
Padova.
3:00:30
Uh, 50.
3:00:31
Nice, Gregory.
3:00:32
Padua or whatever you want to call it.
3:00:34
I think Padova.
3:00:36
Meredith Whittle in Huntsville, Arkansas.
3:00:39
50.
3:00:39
Karen Fatula in St. Clairsville, Ohio.
3:00:45
She has a comment.
3:00:46
You're the best.
3:00:49
MT Duffy in Blenheim, New Zealand.
3:00:52
50.
3:00:53
And last on our 50, or last two,
3:00:55
we've got Lisa in Vernal, Utah.
3:00:58
And last on our list is the good
3:01:00
old Baron Allen Bean who is now in
3:01:02
Beaverton, Oregon.
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Thank all these people for helping us.
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Thank you all very much.
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We appreciate your value for value donations.
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Everybody can participate, even if it's just a
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little bit.
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It shows us that you care.
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That's really the whole point.
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And that's why it's open.
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There's no levels.
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You don't have to be an executive producer.
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You don't have to be a knight.
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None of that.
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It's not necessary.
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Just support us with whatever you think is
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Nodonations.com Well, would you look at that?
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We've got two, two family birthdays.
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Jay wishes her husband, Brennan Lawton a very
3:02:17
happy birthday.
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He turns 31 years old today.
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Is there a big celebration in the hood
3:02:22
today, John?
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They had a birthday party up there at
3:02:25
their house, and I went to it.
3:02:26
And there's a lot of the family members
3:02:28
who are listening to No Agenda.
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Lovely.
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And Eric Mackey, also celebrating the 18th.
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What are the chances of that?
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Finally, Sir Jocelyn Bradley-Dilsaber say happy birthday
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to Dame Amanda, and we do too.
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For everybody here at the Best Podcast in
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the Universe, happy birthday, everybody!
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Now, of course, we don't have any Knights
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or Dames or Commodores or anything.
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Commodores are over.
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It's all done.
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So we can go straight to the No
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Agenda Meetups.
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No Agenda Meetups Yeah, yeah, baby.
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Big party going on.
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We got a couple of parties that took
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place, including the Planktown Meetup.
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In the morning, everybody.
3:03:09
This is B-Dubs hanging out with some
3:03:10
fine folks at Planktown.
3:03:13
Thankfully, there's no sneezing and wheezing.
3:03:15
I'm gonna pass the phone around, and the
3:03:17
people that are here are gonna say something.
3:03:19
In the morning, this is Sir Trevor the
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Machinist.
3:03:21
In the morning, this is Samuel.
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Love you, mean it.
3:03:25
Deflation!
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Deflation!
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You've got pollen!
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Thanks, Obama.
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Funny.
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I like that.
3:03:35
Very good.
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Fort Wayne, Indiana.
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Come on in.
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Adam and John, this is Shannon reporting in
3:03:39
from Fort Wayne.
3:03:39
They had a raccoon dog on the menu.
3:03:41
It was very tasty.
3:03:42
Hey, this is Jared from Coolax again.
3:03:45
What's up to you guys?
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Hey, Shelly from Fort Wayne.
3:03:47
Had a great lunch and even better company.
3:03:49
And this is Mike just hanging out with
3:03:51
a couple of fun people on an afternoon.
3:03:53
So, back to you.
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Have a great day.
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See you at the next one.
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Our server couldn't.
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He was camera shy because he said he
3:03:59
was a refugee from Ukraine and he's in
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Whitsitt.
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Bye.
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Well, good try anyway.
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Thank you very much.
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We love those meetup reports.
3:04:07
We'll have one from Fredericksburg on the next
3:04:09
show.
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Today, there is one meetup.
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The TooManyEggs.com meetup number 12.
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It's underway as we speak in New Hampshire
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at Elm City Brewing Company.
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Coming up in the month of May, what's
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left of a Quad Cities area.
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That's Davenport, Iowa, the 24th.
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Culemborg, Gelderland, the Netherlands, 29th.
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Coeur d'Alene, Idaho, on the 29th.
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Alfreda, Georgia, on the 29th as well.
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On the 31st, Pensauken Township, New Jersey.
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Anchorage, Alaska.
3:04:36
Overland Park, Kansas, and Long Beach, California.
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I might as well just add that on
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June 1st, there's a meetup in Tokyo, Japan.
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We are bad.
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We are nationwide.
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We are everywhere.
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We are No Agenda.
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Go to NoAgendaMeetups.com to get the entire
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overview, the full list, and if you want
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to organize one, these are all producer-organized,
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just go ahead.
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Put one together yourself.
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Get it on the calendar.
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People will come.
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Connection is protection.
3:04:59
You get that at your meetups.
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These people are your first responders in emergency
3:05:02
situations.
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NoAgendaMeetups.com.
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Always a party.
3:05:07
Sometimes you wanna go hang out with all
3:05:10
the nights and days.
3:05:13
You wanna be where you want to be.
3:05:16
Triggered on hell's flame.
3:05:19
You wanna be where everybody feels the same.
3:05:24
It's like a party.
3:05:26
It's like a party.
3:05:28
It's always like a party.
3:05:30
And remember, John's tip of the day is
3:05:32
coming up.
3:05:32
End of show mixes as well.
3:05:34
And now is the moment in the show
3:05:36
where we determine what we're going to play
3:05:37
as the end of show ISO.
3:05:38
It's like you're a producer listening to the
3:05:40
producers of a show produce.
3:05:42
It's amazing.
3:05:44
And these are your two holdovers from last
3:05:46
show, I believe.
3:05:48
Yes, they are.
3:05:49
We're gonna play them first.
3:05:50
Where do you wanna play them last?
3:05:52
I'll play them last.
3:05:53
Okay.
3:05:53
I'll start with my first one.
3:05:55
Ooh, daddy got a microphone.
3:05:57
Okay.
3:05:59
There's some crazy people out there.
3:06:02
Hmm?
3:06:03
No?
3:06:04
Okay.
3:06:04
Got this one.
3:06:05
So good.
3:06:07
And I actually think...
3:06:08
I have a candidate with this one.
3:06:10
I am so impressed with how good that
3:06:12
was.
3:06:13
Nah, that's not too bad.
3:06:15
That's not too bad.
3:06:17
Okay.
3:06:19
In a pinch it would do.
3:06:22
In a pinch.
3:06:23
Well, here's...
3:06:24
Which one do you want first?
3:06:25
The best monkey.
3:06:27
That was better than a bear fighting a
3:06:29
monkey.
3:06:33
Okay.
3:06:35
And then the best.
3:06:36
Wow.
3:06:37
Best three hours you'll ever spend.
3:06:38
I like this one.
3:06:40
That was better than a bear fighting a
3:06:42
monkey.
3:06:43
I have to say there's something about that
3:06:45
one that does it for me.
3:06:47
Alright.
3:06:47
I'm in.
3:06:48
Now, you know I love you.
3:06:52
So you found Irfanview?
3:06:54
Yes, I did.
3:06:55
We're going back 1673, the 30th of June,
3:06:59
2024.
3:07:00
Well, I'll tell you, Irfanview probably has a
3:07:02
plug-in for it.
3:07:02
I'm sure they can...
3:07:04
It's the only system I found that opens
3:07:06
a piece of the show.
3:07:09
Hold on.
3:07:11
We can look it up.
3:07:13
We can consult the book of knowledge.
3:07:15
No, why bother?
3:07:16
Irfanview is the tip of the day, everybody.
3:07:18
This has been your tip of the day.
3:07:20
Thanks for listening.
3:07:22
Y'all come back now, you hear?
3:07:24
Tip of the day.
3:07:25
It was a tip of the day.
3:07:26
The jingle we have was a different jingle.
3:07:28
It was a tip of the day.
3:07:30
Your deep search...
3:07:31
My deep search failed, then.
3:07:33
Get rid of that deep search, man.
3:07:35
What show was it again?
3:07:36
I just clicked it away.
3:07:38
1674, I think.
3:07:41
Yeah.
3:07:42
Bingit.io, people.
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Bingit.io. Learn how to search on Bingit
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.io. It is awesome, and now it is
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time for a brand new, fresh, funky, tasty
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tip of the day.
3:07:53
Great advice from you and me.
3:07:56
Just a tip with JCB.
3:08:00
And sometimes...
3:08:00
We got to get back to the hot
3:08:01
sauce category.
3:08:03
Okay.
3:08:04
Yes.
3:08:04
And this...
3:08:06
Now, McElhaney, I think, is the company that
3:08:12
family...
3:08:12
The old man, I think, recently died, and
3:08:15
it was taken over probably a few years
3:08:17
back by the kids, and they've been bringing
3:08:19
out other products than Tabasco.
3:08:23
Tabasco sauce, which is one of the great
3:08:26
sauces ever.
3:08:27
It's a great sauce.
3:08:28
When it comes to sauce...
3:08:29
It's a great sauce.
3:08:30
You don't need a lot of it.
3:08:31
But they've been bringing all these experimental ones
3:08:33
out, and I've been keeping track of most
3:08:35
of them, and I do use the green
3:08:36
sauce that they have once in a while
3:08:38
as a very tasty sauce.
3:08:40
Not quite as good as Melinda's fire-roasted,
3:08:43
but it's good.
3:08:45
So, I run into one.
3:08:46
I've never seen this one before.
3:08:48
I only found it in an obscure Mexican...
3:08:51
Of all places, a Mexican Mercado, a Mexican
3:08:54
store.
3:08:55
Mercado?
3:08:56
A Mercado.
3:08:57
Mercado.
3:08:57
A big one.
3:08:57
Oh, a big Mercado.
3:08:59
But this has got to be...
3:09:01
This is some serious...
3:09:02
In fact, they call it Seriously Extra Hot.
3:09:05
You haven't done this one before as well?
3:09:07
How come I feel that I've heard of
3:09:08
this one too?
3:09:10
You've heard of other hot sauces.
3:09:12
Other hot sauces.
3:09:12
Guaranteed.
3:09:13
Look it up.
3:09:13
Binga.io. So, this is a tip of
3:09:16
the day that's better than the previous tip
3:09:18
of the day.
3:09:19
No, all the tips are good.
3:09:20
Okay.
3:09:21
It's just a different tip.
3:09:23
The reason is because it comes in the
3:09:24
regular Tabasco sauce bottle, so it's got a
3:09:26
black label, so you'd think it might be
3:09:28
Tabasco sauce.
3:09:30
But no.
3:09:31
Seriously, it's made with scorpion peppers.
3:09:36
Sweet.
3:09:37
One of the hottest peppers in the world.
3:09:39
I don't know where they make it or
3:09:41
if they manufacture it in the same plant
3:09:42
they make Tabasco.
3:09:43
It's hard to say.
3:09:44
I don't know if it's aged.
3:09:45
But this is some Seriously Hot, and it's
3:09:47
called Seriously Hot.
3:09:49
It's the kind of thing that you want
3:09:50
to buy.
3:09:51
It's obscure, by the way.
3:09:52
It's hard to find.
3:09:53
At least I couldn't...
3:09:54
I just ran into it once, ever in
3:09:56
the wild.
3:09:58
And for your hot pepper-loving friends, and
3:10:01
you've got one or two, or if you're
3:10:03
not yourself, I would recommend checking out a
3:10:06
bottle of this.
3:10:07
It's not expensive.
3:10:07
It comes in a small little Tabasco sauce
3:10:10
bottle.
3:10:10
It looks like Tabasco sauce, but it's not.
3:10:13
That's my tip of the day.
3:10:13
Where is it manufactured?
3:10:16
Louisiana.
3:10:17
And they do it with actual scorpion pepper?
3:10:20
Yeah, and it looks to be 100%
3:10:22
scorpion pepper.
3:10:24
And that scorpion pepper is from grinding up
3:10:26
scorpions?
3:10:27
Yeah.
3:10:28
They make scorpion...
3:10:29
No.
3:10:29
It's a pepper called scorpion pepper.
3:10:31
I'm sorry.
3:10:32
I don't know.
3:10:33
I'm like, I've got a lot of scorpions
3:10:35
here.
3:10:35
Maybe I can make some pepper out of
3:10:37
them.
3:10:37
They're not good for much else.
3:10:38
It looks like a scotch bonnet of some
3:10:40
sort, only it's got a little tail on
3:10:42
it.
3:10:43
I have never seen a pepper, a scorpion
3:10:46
pepper, actually seen one for sale anywhere.
3:10:52
But I'm assuming they grow them somewhere.
3:10:56
Interesting.
3:10:57
These are the kind of new things that
3:10:59
they've been developing, these super hot peppers.
3:11:02
I'm not sure it's good for the market,
3:11:05
but for people who like this stuff...
3:11:08
Yes, I'm willing to try it.
3:11:09
I'm a little bit of a pepper guy,
3:11:11
a little bit of a hot sauce guy.
3:11:12
Not too much, but I'm looking forward to
3:11:14
it.
3:11:14
And you, ladies and gentlemen, have just enjoyed
3:11:16
another special edition of John C.
3:11:19
Dvorak's Tip of the Day.
3:11:22
Great advice for you and me.
3:11:24
Just a tip with JCB.
3:11:28
And sometimes at all.
3:11:30
Created by Dana Brunetti.
3:11:31
That's right, everybody.
3:11:33
And that's why you stick around, because you
3:11:35
know that the tip of the day is
3:11:37
well worth it, even if it's a repeat,
3:11:39
it's still good.
3:11:41
And stop complaining, because otherwise John's going to
3:11:43
rage quit the tip of the day.
3:11:45
And then what will we do?
3:11:48
You don't want to ruin it.
3:11:48
Even Brunetti has been complaining about the tip
3:11:51
of the day, twice at least.
3:11:54
He's a complainer.
3:11:55
He's a Hollywood guy.
3:11:56
He is a complainer.
3:11:57
You're right.
3:11:57
He's a Hollywood guy.
3:11:58
They all doubt me.
3:11:59
End of show mix is coming up from
3:12:00
Hugh Allison, who's back.
3:12:01
Dee's Laughs brings us some Toronto jams and
3:12:05
Tom Starkweather with a bit of Comey 8647.
3:12:09
A classic.
3:12:10
I'm sure it'll show up in a Best
3:12:11
Of one of these days.
3:12:12
And up next on the No Agenda stream,
3:12:15
if you're listening in the troll room on
3:12:17
your modern podcast app, it'll pop up automatically.
3:12:20
Airline Pilot Guy.
3:12:23
And this is the Arrested Landing episode.
3:12:26
That's a great show, actually.
3:12:27
It's fun to listen to.
3:12:28
Coming to you from the heart of the
3:12:30
Texas Hill Country, here in Fredericksburg, home of
3:12:32
the Fred Freakout.
3:12:35
In the morning, everybody.
3:12:36
I'm Adam Curry.
3:12:37
And from Northern Silicon Valley, where we're still
3:12:39
wondering about the first name Keir.
3:12:41
I'm John C.
3:12:42
Dvorak.
3:12:42
We return on Thursday with more of your
3:12:45
media deconstruction.
3:12:46
We're happy to do it.
3:12:47
It's a public service.
3:12:48
Remember us at noagendadonations.com.
3:12:51
Until Thursday, adios mofos, ahooey hooey, and such.
3:12:57
And you've never seen anything like it.
3:12:58
You have Persian rugs?
3:13:00
Yeah, I have a couple.
3:13:01
Do you fly around on them?
3:13:03
Well, there's one reason I need I found
3:13:05
a moth attack on one of my Persian
3:13:08
rugs.
3:13:09
Oh.
3:13:12
Pheromone moth attracted sticky pads.
3:13:17
F-H-E-E-R-M-O-N
3:13:19
-E.
3:13:20
Okay.
3:13:21
Why would we want to have pheromone moth
3:13:24
sticky pads?
3:13:26
Here's the deal.
3:13:27
The key to success with these items is
3:13:29
they have to be fresh.
3:13:31
Fresh!
3:13:32
Persian rugs are a really good price nowadays,
3:13:35
by the way.
3:13:35
Best price.
3:13:36
But do you have them on the floor
3:13:37
or in your...
3:13:38
Yeah, they're on the floor.
3:13:39
I get them all over the place.
3:13:40
Everybody in the family has a bunch of
3:13:42
these.
3:13:43
Either Turkish or Persian rugs.
3:13:44
Interesting.
3:13:45
That's something I do not know about the
3:13:47
Dvorak clan.
3:13:50
So, uh, and they're not expensive anymore.
3:13:53
Do you fly around on them?
3:14:03
Uh, that's being planned or at least discussed.
3:14:09
You know, we're not gonna allow people to
3:14:12
buy this stuff.
3:14:21
Okay.
3:14:25
This is so funny.
3:14:26
I wish everyone in Toronto and Mayor Chao
3:14:29
nothing but the best.
3:14:30
CBP wishes me nothing but the best.
3:14:38
Toronto!
3:14:43
That's incredible.
3:14:48
Wow!
3:15:46
Merriam-Webster Dictionary defining the term 81 to
3:15:50
eject, dismiss, or remove someone Everybody knows what
3:15:54
the term 86 means.
3:15:55
86 means to get rid of something.
3:15:57
86 informally means to get rid of.
3:15:59
You know exactly what that meant.
3:16:01
A child knows what that meant.
3:16:03
If you're the FBI director and you don't
3:16:06
know what that meant, that meant assassination.
3:16:10
Several officials from the Trump Administration say this
3:16:12
is a call for violence against the president.
3:16:15
It's used in bars and restaurants to strike
3:16:17
items from menus, but others use it as
3:16:20
slang for murder.
3:16:21
It is being used right now in left
3:16:23
-wing circles, in activist circles.
3:16:25
Look, his life literally was in danger last
3:16:29
year, so it is a problem.
3:16:31
The real question is whether this post is
3:16:32
really significant of any.
3:16:34
And do you think he did the seashells
3:16:37
himself on the beach?
3:16:38
This is not even beach season right now.
3:16:40
Comey deleted the post and made another, saying,
3:16:43
I didn't realize some folks associate those numbers
3:16:46
with violence.
3:16:47
It never occurred to me, but I oppose
3:16:49
violence of any kind, so I took the
3:16:51
post down.
3:16:59
That was better than a bear fighting a
3:17:07
monkey.
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