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You're nuts.
Adam Currie, John C.
DeVora.
It's Thursday, July 10th, 2025.
This is your award-winning Gimbal Nation Media
Assassination Episode 1788.
This is no agenda.
With nothing to see here and broadcast live
from the heart of Manhattan, New York City,
FEMA Region Number 2.
In the morning, everybody.
I'm Adam Currie.
And from Northern Silicon Valley, where we're all
wondering why we're drinking burnt mushroom coffee.
I'm John C.
DeVora.
This is Crackpot and Buzzkill.
In the morning.
Wait, is that from Gigawatt?
No.
Oh, then why are you drinking it?
I'm not.
Oh, you said you were, okay.
You're confusing me.
Have you seen these ads for the coffee,
for the burnt mushroom, the mushroom coffee?
No, John, I don't watch television like you
do.
Well, you should.
I'm not gonna watch TV like you do.
No, I'm not gonna.
No, it's not gonna happen.
What is, is this on network television, these?
Yeah, yeah, it's all over the place.
It's a little mushroom.
It's an animated mushroom.
It's not real, because he's got a smiley
face.
He's walking around.
Wait, wait, you're telling me that there's not
a mushroom that can talk and run around
on television?
This is, this is.
It's my understanding.
I'm stunned, I'm stunned.
And so the mushroom is making a coffee
for this woman, and she tries the coffee,
and she goes, this is better than coffee.
And then they promote the idea of drinking
this mushroom coffee.
I don't, I'm gonna have to try it,
I guess.
I don't know, what does it taste like?
Is it supposed to taste like coffee?
Is it Postum?
I mean, what is it supposed to be?
Now that you mention this.
It's supposed to jack you up.
No, you bring this up.
We were watching the miniseries Four Seasons with
Steve Carell and Tina Fey.
It's like a eight, eight episode miniseries thing.
And it's okay, but you know, without going
into it, I think it's like based on
a movie by Alan Alda who plays a
role, the guy's 90.
It was weird to see Hawkeye show up
as this old decrepit man in his cameo
role.
Anyway, so Steve Carell, he hooks up with
a 30 year old when he's almost 60,
and then he has to go on vacation
with his girlfriend's friends, and they were drinking
mushroom coffee.
So you're on a trend here.
Of course, it's because I watch TV.
I'm glad that there's two of us.
Someone has to do it.
Before we get to the obvious elephant in
the room, just a little bit on the
Texas flood.
This is much worse than the media is
able to show it, and I'm not blaming
the media per se.
This is just 20 minutes down the road
from it.
When we're in Texas, and actually I feel
kind of bad about not being there, not
being able to help out more, but when
we're back, I'm going to start doing some
more things.
This is like the Grand Canyon, you know,
where you just can't, you can't get the
same effect unless you've been there and you
know what it looks like.
John, the debris is 25 feet high all
over the place, and it's not just Kerrville.
I mean, some of this happened up in
Georgetown near Austin.
It is really, this was, this is level
Western North Carolina with the same result that,
of course, everyone kind of moves on.
The media is looking for a narrative, and
you know, they had all the camp girls.
Okay, we had that, and then we have
the runaway, you know, the dog that has
no owner.
NPR, by the way, gets the award.
They had a picture of a single baby
shoe.
Very good, NPR, you did it.
That's kind of cliched.
It's cliched and disgusting.
I have like, you know, the one sole
baby shoe in the debris, but the reports
I'm getting, it smells like death everywhere and
they're in desperate need of men with boots
and chainsaws, and if you have any heavy
equipment, and if you want to help out
and you're anywhere near, or you just want
to come and help, email me, adammccurry.com.
I'll give you a number to call.
And if people want to donate money, it's
the Hill Country Community Foundation.
Tina and I have checked it out.
It's the right place.
It's communityfoundation.net.
It's real, this is much worse than anyone
could have imagined.
It really was a bad one.
So let's listen to Dana Bash talk about
it.
That'll brighten our mood.
We're continuing to follow the desperate search in
Texas.
Last hour, officials said at least 119 people
have died and even more remain missing.
In New Mexico, residents experienced similar panic during
record-breaking, that's what they called it, floodwaters.
That was yesterday.
A river free surged from less than two
feet to more than 20 in less than
an hour.
At least three people were killed.
Nearly 100 people were rescued.
A really big flood just came, like a
wall of flood.
It came and it started going through and
that's when I started recording because it just,
it got so wild so quickly.
In Central North Carolina, another quote, once in
a 100 year flood.
In Chicago, a quote, one in a thousand
year rain event.
That's all just this week.
Yeah, these ghouls, once in a hundred years.
No, not really.
No, she said a thousand.
Oh, that was for Chicago or whatever.
Once in a hundred, once in a thousand.
It all leads to climate change, don't worry.
I think that your thing you did last
show, I should have recorded it and play
it back, which outlined the event and the
Texas event, how it happened in 18 this,
18 that, it's bye, bye, bye every five
years, on and on and on and on
and on for endless amounts of time but
somehow it's once in a generation.
Yes.
I mean, these news people are no good.
No, no.
You gotta leave it to the podcasters.
The podcasters seem to be doing everything these
days.
It's a heavy lift, people.
I got one more of Dana Bash, only
because she brings in Bill Nye, the science
guy.
Joining me now to try to make sense
of this.
Let's make sense of it with this douche
bag.
Wait, wait, wait, you're gonna make sense.
Wow.
I know, I know.
Let's make sense of this with a douche
bag.
Joining me now to try to make sense
of this and more is Bill Nye, the
science guy.
Hey!
Thanks for being here.
It's good to be here.
I'm sorry, I really am sorry for all
the trouble.
It's terrible.
And so just that last part of what
we were describing.
I'm sorry for all the trouble?
Yeah.
What is that supposed to mean?
I don't know, and I guess he's, you
know, can we blame him?
I mean, we're looking for somebody to blame.
We know that everyone wants to blame Trump,
so we might as well blame Bill Nye.
I really am sorry for all the trouble.
It's terrible.
And so just that last part of what
we were describing.
You keep hearing once in a lifetime, once
in a hundred years, once in a thousand
years.
At this point, it's not anymore.
It's just where we are.
Oh, here we go!
With the climate and the environment.
Oh, yes!
Well, that's, as we like to say, our
side of it, the science side of it.
This is exactly what was predicted.
It's very difficult to tie any one weather
event to climate change.
However, the warm weather.
This guy is so predictable.
Can't really tie weather to climate change, however.
But we're gonna do that anyway.
Yeah, we're gonna do it.
Any one weather event to climate change.
However, the warm weather events are actually easier
to tie to climate change.
And so the other problem that happened in
the hill country in Texas is this business
of the Balcones escarpment, where the air mass
got lifted.
So it spread out and the rain came
down even faster.
But it'll happen again.
Well, okay, yeah, Bill.
If you just go to Wikipedia, you can
see that it's pretty obvious it'll happen again.
Not due to climate change, just due to
drought and the soil and clay that we
have and the rivers that can't handle it.
Yes, of course.
Of course.
I don't think anybody did anything wrong other
than we've just become to rely on our
government and where was my warning?
And even though there were warnings, where's the
guy that just goes outside and says, hmm,
I reckon I've seen this before.
Yeah.
Get to higher ground.
That's exactly what happens in those areas.
Get to higher ground.
Let's just stick with CNN for a while.
I just wanna get these out of the
way.
A very important story we're covering and we'll
continue to is these deadly floods in Texas.
As the search continues for the missing, there
are big questions being raised about the warnings
that happened and the impacts also of cuts
to, that the Trump administration has made to
the National Weather Service.
And while everyone you speak to says, review
needs to be done, analysis needs to be
done, there's no direct through line.
I did have a former administrator of NOAA
just on this morning who said that he
thinks the administration's workforce cuts at the National
Weather Service contributed to the problem.
Let me play this for you.
I am convinced that the staff cuts that
we saw were a contributing factor to the
inability of the emergency managers to respond.
The staffing was just fine and the White
House has concurred with this to get the
forecast out, to get the watches and warnings
issued.
But when you send a message, there's no
guarantee it's being received.
So someone needs to follow up and that's
the warning coordination meteorologist, a position that was
vacant.
This is just so dishonest.
In fact, the NOAA, N-O-O-A,
N-O-O-O, O-O-O, the
N-O-A-A, they sent the warnings
out, but their models were incorrect.
They estimated much lower levels, much lower, but
okay, let's blame it on Trump.
And who better to blame it on Trump
then?
Who's the climate expert, John?
Come on, I'll give you one guess.
The climate expert?
Yes.
It's not Bill Moore.
No.
No, of course not.
You wanna bring in Eric Swalwell.
Do you think Democrats need to be careful
on this?
Yeah, I'm gonna guess that.
Well, first, I mean, as a parent, this
is just heartbreaking.
I have two kids at camp this week.
They're not old enough for sleepaway camp, but
you put them in the responsibility of people
who you don't know and this is a
parent's nightmare.
And so I do grieve with those families.
And I also thank the first responders who
put their lives on the line to try
and rescue as many people as possible.
One of my colleagues, a Republican colleague, had
two of his daughters at this camp.
Fortunately, they made it out.
I do think as lawmakers, we have a
responsibility, though, to look at did cuts affect
the ability for folks on the ground and
at the camp to have an earlier, better
warning?
But this is really going to, should we
just attack government for government's sake?
And for the last six months, we've seen
an effort to undermine the hard work of
government workers, whether it's air traffic controllers who
keep planes from colliding in the air or
FEMA first responders who go into the harshest
hit places in America.
But if the president's press secretary doesn't like
the way this is being described, I would
recommend that the president go to Texas and
talk to the families and show leadership because
that's what presidents do.
There is nothing more ghoulish than politicizing something
like this, and it happens every single time.
I'm glad it was Swalwell because I already
didn't like him, so that's good.
There is one story that I think is
very troubling when it comes to government, local
government in particular, and that's the fire chief
in Austin.
People are pretty outraged about this story.
The Austin fire chief is under fire, not
for what he did, but for what the
firefighters union says he didn't do.
We have the resources, we have the training,
we have the personnel.
The union president says Chief Baker held back
train crews during last week's deadly floods even
though they were ready to respond.
I started sending pictures with their names by
them as a chief.
Open these up and zoom in on these
little faces, eight to 10 years old.
We need to do something.
No response, no deployment.
He said Austin firefighters were requested on July
2nd and 3rd before the flooding even started.
Austin said no both times.
What was said up and down the chain
is, do not deploy, don't even ask.
Within our department, he's known as a bully.
He's known as being vindictive.
He's known as being retaliatory.
So when you have an order coming down
the chain that says we don't deploy, don't
even ask, people know what that means.
And people didn't deploy when they normally would
have because of that direct order.
Chief Baker defends his decision saying he had
to balance helping other communities while protecting Austin.
Chief Baker is so concerned about squeezing pennies
here and saving money rather than saving people.
With nearly 40 years of firefighting experience under
his belt, Nick says he doesn't make these
claims lightly.
I used to be a part of the
original Swift Water team.
I know the conditions.
I absolutely believe that lives were lost because
Austin firefighters did not deploy.
I know some of those girls could have
been survived if we had had the best
boat crew the day before on scene.
I know it.
I know it in my heart.
And the fact that we didn't do it
and we let them down, it's unconscionable.
Yeah, they could have been out there a
day early.
Well, this guy, this Austin fire chief was
assigned pretty much to Austin by Barack Obama
and told that they had to diversify the
Austin fire department.
And he's on record, there's tapes of him,
this guy, it seems like a dummy, saying,
oh, the most important thing for Austin right
now is to diversify our firefighters.
He's kind of a Lloyd Austin type dude.
Yeah.
Yeah.
All that's missing is- Without the mask.
The face shield, yeah.
And then there's the amount of people who
can't see the difference between geoengineering and chemtrails,
which you know, I believe that is happening,
and cloud seeding, which has been going on
since, I don't know, John, what do you
think?
80 years they've been cloud seeding in America?
Ever since I was born.
Yeah.
And so this poor sap, the CEO of
Rainmaker, who contracts with Texas to make it
rain over farms during the season when we
need rain, not after the harvest or, you
know, not, anyway, it doesn't really matter.
He also has kind of an unfortunate look.
He's got this massive mullet going on.
He's a mullet guy.
He's a massive mullet guy.
So he just kind of looks untrustworthy, but
he's kind of a young dude and he's
figured out- I don't know.
No, I saw him interviewed by Alex Jones.
Well, I've got an interview here with him
just a minute.
This was on Forbes, actually.
So, I like the guy.
I think he's, and he's under pressure.
He does have some stats that are interesting
to hear.
My heart and prayers are with everybody affected
in Texas and the entire state.
I'm gonna be down there tomorrow trying to
help as I can.
I run a company called Rainmaker that conducts
cloud seeding to make it rain more for
farms, for ecosystem restoration, for residential reservoirs when
they're suffering from drought.
And we work with municipalities and farmers throughout
Texas to, when there is a drought or
there isn't enough water, make it rain more.
We unequivocally had nothing to do with the
flooding that was caused by the remnants of
the tropical storm that blew in.
And our biggest cloud seeding missions to date
have only produced 10 million gallons of precipitation
approximately.
And that tropical storm dumped about four trillion
over the course of two days.
So, the order of magnitude difference between what
cloud seeding is even capable of and what
happened is incomparable.
And again, I truly am heartbroken about what
has happened, but want to make it abundantly
clear that cloud seeding was not involved in
any capacity and it's a technology that is
used to help farmers when there isn't enough
water.
Four trillion gallons, that's amazing.
Yeah, there was Bannon, not Alex Jones that
I heard him talk.
Bannon was trying to push it toward.
Yeah, push it towards him.
And then this guy wasn't having any of
it.
And that figure, he threw that same figure
out.
He says, you can produce maybe 10 million.
Yeah.
And they're not talking about a billion gallons,
they're talking about four trillion gallons.
You'd have to have some pretty, you can't
do it with cloud seeding, there's no way.
And so, I took that.
He seemed like a very, although he was
the mullet man, he did seem very knowledgeable
about the whole point.
But the mullet is just not a good
look in this particular case.
It's like, yeah, you look like Theo Vaughn.
You look like a podcaster.
I'm sure people who are out there who
believe that, trust me, John, the entire community
of Fredericksburg is going nuts.
This cloud, oh, cloud seeding, it was cloud
seeding, it was, it's like, no, calm down.
Of course, these are the same people who
are going out there and seeing it.
Literally, like, it just smells of death everywhere.
I'm sure it's very similar to Western North
Carolina.
Very similar, people dead in trees, all kinds
of nasty stuff.
Yes, it's bad, gruesome.
Okay, so then the story that seems to
be preoccupying everybody in the podcast land, for
sure, but even in mainstream media, I'm sure
people are tuning in to hear what we
have to say about it.
I'll give you an overview first of the
news story about the meltdown.
Something is horribly wrong here.
The rift within President Donald Trump's base is
growing.
Don't sit there and tell me there's nothing
when you told me there was something.
After an abrupt end to the death and
sex trafficking investigations into Jeffrey Epstein.
I mean, you couldn't discredit yourself worse.
It's really, really demoralized people.
For years, conspiracy theories have dogged Epstein's prison
suicide.
I'm amazed at how few people are putting
two and two together.
As rumors swirled about a possible client list
full of high-profile individuals, rumors fueled directly
by Trump's inner circle.
The DOJ may be releasing the list of
Jeffrey Epstein's clients.
Will that really happen?
It's sitting on my desk right now to
review.
They're convinced that the Epstein client list is
going to have a lot of Democratic politicians
on it.
Problem is, if it has politicians on it,
it's almost certain to have Donald Trump on
it.
It's no secret Epstein had plenty of important
friends, including Trump.
This week, in an unsigned memo, the Department
of Justice said there was no incriminating client
list and went on to definitively say Epstein
died by suicide, releasing video from outside the
prison wing the night he died.
Are you still talking about Jeffrey Epstein?
This guy's been talked about for years.
If Trump wanted to stop the questions, he
seemed to make things worse by lashing out.
And are people still talking about this guy,
this creep?
That is unbelievable.
Leaving many MAGA supporters to believe it's far
from case closed.
With the conspiracy theory they've been fed for
years getting a whole lot bigger.
This was very, this was really disappointing.
I mean, of everything that has been happening,
the cabinet meeting, I was like, wow, Pam
Bondi's an idiot, like really an idiot.
I mean, we already knew she was kind
of dumb, but I mean, she can't even
lie right.
And President Trump just going all in on
the cover up.
But I mean, if you wanted to cover
something up, you could not do a stupider
job.
And just for background, how long have we
been talking about the elites doing this kind
of stuff on this show?
Oh, since the beginning, pretty much.
Exactly, July 10th, 2008, I looked it up,
is when I basically got fired from Aero
Classic Rock Radio in the Netherlands for bringing
up the Demink affair, which is the highest
official in the Dutch Justice Department, who had
admitted that he had sex with underage boys,
and nothing was happening.
And then they came right after the state,
not after me personally, they came after the
station.
The investors pulled all their money out, station
was off the air within 10 days.
Or as you say, burned to the ground,
which isn't entirely true.
But these are the days of Jimmy Savile,
man, we've gone so deep into the Dutroux
Rolodex case, which was- That was a
good one.
But it's all, I mean, this happened, they
had kids in cages, and this was the
elite from Brussels and the EU.
It's unbelievable what has been going on.
The Jimmy Savile case, I mean, come on.
That was, what a cover up that was.
Something that we didn't discuss too much on
the show that was kind of mentioned in
passing, which was the George H.W. Bush.
Oh, the gay hookers that my uncle of
the CIA was giving midnight tours to.
And there's also Boys Town.
Oh, Boys Town, wow, that was actually a
staple.
We used to play bits from that, but
we didn't do it all the time.
Boys, I forgot all the, yeah, we did.
Well, there's a couple of bits we didn't
do it all the time.
But that was back when, before YouTube.
No, this has been going on is what
you're trying to say.
Yeah, and we've been following it.
We've been following this for a long time.
So, but you know, I'd like to know
what Giselle Maxwell must be thinking right now
as she's locked up.
Has anyone talked to her or done an
interview, a jailhouse interview or anything?
Oh, why bother?
Why bother?
But you know, they did.
I don't know if I have a, I
don't know if I got a clip of
it.
I didn't get the clip.
But there was a clip of Epstein's brother
that Cuomo talked to and he says this
thing stinks.
And then the only clip I have about
is Kiriakou, the ex-CIA guy, who is
a whistleblower and he was still floating around.
And he's got, I think he's got good
knowledge of the inner workings of the way
these things operate.
I have that clip.
It was just kind of- Let's play
that and I wanna play a few historical
clips.
Let's play Kiriakou.
I'm not blaming the FBI director, Kash Patel
or the deputy director, Dan Bongino.
I think that that layer beneath them, that's
part of what we like to call the
deep state, has taken this bull by the
horns and they've probably destroyed information.
Look at what the CIA did in 1975
after Congress ordered that it release all of
its files related to an operation called MKUltra.
The director of the CIA went back to
headquarters and ordered everything to be destroyed.
And in the end, only about 20%
of the documents survived.
We're still learning about the FBI's operations against
Martin Luther King 50, 55 years after the
fact.
So now we're supposed to believe that everybody's
telling the truth, that there were no files,
there were no dossiers.
I'm sorry, I just don't buy it because
I know how these people operate.
Yeah, I just wanna go back a little
bit further because we've had so many people
talking about this in the past five years.
In fact, this is, who was the, who
was that woman?
Let me see where, well, first of all,
let me do this.
This is 2019 on Pierce, no, this is
CBS This Morning, Maria Farmer.
Do you remember Maria Farmer?
Yes, and I wanna mention something to people
listening to this.
We both, I think, well, me in particular,
have said that these files will never come
out no matter what Pam Bondi.
We've said that continuously, yeah.
Yeah, continuously, and we're still right.
So far, batting 1,000, unfortunately.
Welcome back to CBS This Morning.
One of Jeffrey Epstein's accusers who said she
has an inside view of his world is
giving us disturbing new details of what happened.
Maria Farmer was a young artist in the
1990s when she met Epstein.
She and her younger sister, Annie, claim Epstein
sexually assaulted them, and Farmer is now suing
Epstein Estate over the alleged incident.
Farmer says she was the first known accuser
to alert law enforcement to Epstein a decade
before his first arrest.
In her first TV interview, Farmer talks about
why she's still seeking justice even after Epstein's
death.
Okay, here she comes.
Farmer found Epstein's behavior mysterious.
One day I said to Jeffrey, what goes
on in this house?
Like, why are you always upstairs?
And he said, I'll show you.
And so he took me up there in
the elevator, and we went, he showed me
all of Ghilan's quarters.
She had her own suite in the house.
Oh, she had a whole floor.
Ultimately, Farmer says, Epstein led her to his
bathroom.
And by the way, this is CBS, the
CIA broadcast network.
And there was a marble, like, altar thing
over here, and he said that's where he
gets his massages.
Epstein told her the whole house was wired
with pinhole cameras and took her into the
media room where they were monitored.
I looked on the cameras, and I saw,
toilet, toilet, bed, bed, toilet, bed.
I'm like, I am never gonna use the
restroom here, and I'm never gonna sleep here.
Was there video tape?
Oh, yeah, it was all video, all the
time, yeah.
And I asked him one time, what do
you do with this?
And he said, I keep it.
I keep everything in my safe.
You know, looking back on this, this is
kind of an interesting timing, 2019.
This was really coming to a head just
before COVID, just coincidentally before COVID.
And this was Amy Robach.
Remember Amy Robach?
Oh, yeah, here's her complaint.
I've had the story for three years.
I've had this interview with Virginia Roberts.
We would not put it on the air.
First of all, I was told, who's Jeffrey
Epstein?
No one knows who that is.
This is a stupid story.
Then the palace found out that we had
her whole allegations about Prince Andrew, and threatened
us a million different ways.
We were so afraid we wouldn't be able
to interview Kate, to Will, that we, that
also quashed the story.
And then, Alan Dershowitz was also implicated in
it, because of the planes.
She told me everything.
She had pictures, she had everything.
She was in hiding for 12 years.
We convinced her to come out.
We convinced her to talk to us.
It was unbelievable what we had.
Clinton, we had everything.
I tried for three years to get it
on to no avail, and now it's all
coming out, and it's like these new revelations,
and I freaking had all of it.
I'm so pissed right now.
Like, every day I get more and more
pissed, because I'm just like, oh my God.
We, it was, what we had was unreal.
Other women backing it up.
Hey, yep, Brad Edwards, the attorney, three years
ago saying, like, like, we, there will come
a day where we will realize Jeffrey Epstein
was the most prolific pedophile this country has
ever known.
I had it all, three years ago.
And here's current.
Oh, wait, before you go on, don't forget
what happened to Amy Robach.
She was set up.
Oh, she got fired.
With a phony baloney affair, and fired, and
that was the end of her.
What's happening, where's she now?
I don't know.
Well, hopefully she'll come out.
I'll look her up while you're.
And?
Continuing.
Where is she now?
Are you, oh, you're, yeah, you're looking her
up.
I'm gonna look her up.
Okay.
This is the current, current United States attorney
for the District of New Jersey, Alina Haba
on Piers Morgan.
But in this case, in Epstein's case, it
is incredibly disturbing.
We have flight logs, we have information, names,
that will come out.
Is it gonna be shocking?
I don't see how it's not shocking, that
there were so many individuals that were hidden,
and kept secret, and not been held accountable.
Uh-huh.
And then, of course, we have the Dersh.
Dershowitz, who was implicated in all this, but
he only had a massage with his clothes
on.
I have seen, remember, I was accused falsely,
and they have seen, and ultimately, I was
completely cleared.
The woman admitted that she may have mistook
me for somebody else, and withdrew all of
her lawsuits.
And so, from day one, from the day
I was accused, I said, I want every
document out, because I knew every document would
prove I was innocent.
So, let me tell you, I know for
a fact documents are being suppressed, and they're
being suppressed to protect individuals.
I know the names of the individuals.
I know why they're being suppressed.
I know who's suppressing them, but I'm bound
by confidentiality from a judge and cases, and
I can't disclose what I know.
But I, hand to God, I know, I
know the names of people whose files are
being suppressed in order to protect them, and
that's wrong.
And can we not forget, please, Melinda Gates
with Gayle King.
You know, it was also widely reported that
people had a friendship, or a business, or
some kind of contact with Jeffrey Epstein, and
that you were not, that that was very
upsetting to you.
Did that play a role in the divorce
at all in this process?
Yeah, as I said, it's not one thing.
It was many things, but I did not
like that he'd had meetings with Jeffrey Epstein,
no.
And you made that clear to him?
I made that clear to him.
I also met Jeffrey Epstein exactly one time.
Did you?
Yes, because I wanted to see who this
man was, and I regretted it from the
second I stepped in the door.
He was abhorrent.
He was evil, personified.
I had nightmares about it afterwards.
So, you know, my heart breaks for these
young women, because that's how I felt, and
here I'm an older woman.
My God, I feel terrible for those young
women, it's awful.
You felt that the moment you walked in?
I didn't realize that.
Yeah, and you shared that with Bill, and
he still continued to spend time with him?
Any of the questions remaining about what Bill's
relationship there was, those are for Bill to
answer.
Okay.
But I made it very clear how I
felt about him.
And although I don't have any clips, you
remember that a gardener or someone like that
was arrested at Bill Gates' house in possession
of 4,000 pornographic images of minors and
children?
Yeah, yeah.
There was a lot of news reports about
it, but no audio that I can find
in our archives.
So, just to finish the Amy Robarch thing,
so when she was fired in 2023 for
an affair from ABC, she has gone on.
Ah, podcasts?
Exactly.
How come I don't have her podcast in
my podcast app?
This is disappointing, I should be on that.
So, of course, two months ago, almost to
the day, no, to the week, we had
this very curious double interview with bug-eyed
Bongino and bug-eyed Cass Patel.
My favorite.
The bug-eyed guys.
The two stooges, the hostage video.
You said Jeffrey Epstein committed suicide.
People don't believe it.
Well, I mean, listen, they have a right
to their opinion, but as someone who has
worked as a public defender, as a prosecutor,
who's been in that prison system, who's been
in the Metropolitan Detention Center, who's been in
segregated housing, you know a suicide when you
see one, and that's what that was.
Was he there?
He killed himself.
Again, you want me to get, I've seen
the whole file.
He killed himself.
So, okay, so I think we need to
just play the cabinet meeting, because everything changed
for everybody with the president's response, with Bondi's
lying in the cabinet meeting.
Well, before you do that, I want to
mention a couple of things.
Yeah, sure.
Bondi, for example, and I don't have, again,
this was just, all this stuff has been
played over and over.
Yeah, but for the record, I want to
put it on the record.
But Bondi just didn't go onto one show
and say, I've got the documents on my
desk.
We have to remember, she showed up on
Water's show the next day.
Oh, yeah.
Well, remember, he was like, oh, I texted
you.
Yeah, we text all the time.
Remember that?
Yeah, and then she said, yeah, just tomorrow.
She made the commitment.
And then the next day came along, and
there was other clips of her.
There was about five of them where she's
going on and on about this.
And then the next day, she delivered the
binders to the podcast Stooges, which was the
same old stuff that was already floating around.
I don't know if she didn't know that
this was already floating around or she thought
this was new, but she hands out the
binders with the flight logs, which everybody has
seen already 10 times over, and which is
useless.
And then from there on, and that says
it's very clearly on the binder.
It says Jeffrey Epstein investigation phase one.
It was on there.
There was never a worse phase two.
And then we have to remember JD Vance
going out on the podcast and campaigning on
this.
Everybody in politics has a vice that's much
worse than alcoholism is the way that I
put it.
But we- Release the list.
Seriously, we need to release the Epstein list.
That is an important thing.
Yeah, I'm just saying.
That should be an important thing.
Exactly.
I just want, I just, I have to
play this Bondi, this Trump thing and then
Bondi, because what president Trump did here, it's
like, is he, well, we'll have to get
into our opinions on it.
Yes, and what we're going to talk about
is the fact that Trump campaigned on this.
Yeah, do we have that clip?
It's only, what, less than six months or
about six months, I guess six months.
Yeah, here it is.
This is from the Russian guy.
What's his name?
What's his name?
You know, the Russian Rogan.
The Russian Rogan?
Yeah, the guy in the black suit with
the black tie who always talks like this
very quietly.
What's his name?
I don't know.
Yeah, he's a big podcaster.
You should know about him.
Well, anyway, it'll come to me.
Here he is.
This is what president Trump said, or then
candidate Trump said.
But a lot of big people- Friedman,
Lex Friedman.
That's what it is, thank you, Charles.
Lex Friedman.
But a lot of big people went to
that island.
Ukrainian.
Okay.
But fortunately, I was not one of them.
It's just very strange for a lot of
people that the list of clients that went
to the island has not been made public.
Yeah, it's very interesting, isn't it?
Probably will be, by the way, probably.
So if you're able to, you'll be-
Yeah, I'd certainly take a look at it.
Now, Kennedy's interesting because it's so many years
ago.
Whoops, left turn.
They do that for danger, too, because it
endangers certain people, et cetera, et cetera.
So Kennedy is very different from the Epstein
thing.
But yeah, I'd be inclined to do the
Epstein.
I'd have no problem with it.
So he's saying a couple of things here
about different cases, but they could be said
for both.
It's like, well, you could put people in
danger.
When it comes to the Epstein memo, they
were very clear that, well, we're not gonna
be putting this stuff out that could implicate
people who are guilty of nothing, but just
happen to be, I don't know, in the
room.
So here is the president.
And I just have to wonder, is he
tone deaf?
Does he only look at truth social?
Does he look anywhere else?
Does he listen to anything?
Does he really think that this is not
a big deal?
I mean, this is level COVID shots and
beyond.
Even though on the grand scheme, it's not
the same level.
I think the COVID shots are worse because
a lot of people have been dying.
But this is just the worst way.
If you wanna cover something up, uh-uh.
I don't know where he came up with
this idea.
Your memo released yesterday, Jeffrey Epstein, left some
lingering mysteries.
One of the biggest ones is whether he
ever worked for an American or foreign intelligence
agency, the former- It's a little hard
to hear, but the question is good.
The attorney general in Florida, Acosta, said, no,
no, he belongs to intelligence.
And that was when Jeffrey Epstein got his
sweetheart deal of going to jail during the
day.
Go home during the weekend.
You're all good.
Go back to your Palm Beach abode.
It's all fantastic.
And it was a valid question and a
deep one.
He was Miami U.S. Attorney Alex Acosta.
He allegedly said that he did work for
an intelligence agency.
So can you resolve whether or not he
did?
And also, can you say why there was
a missing from the jailhouse tape on the
day he said that?
Yeah, sure.
If I could- Ladies and gentlemen, are
you still talking about Jeffrey Epstein?
This guy's been talked about for years.
You're asking, we have Texas, we have this,
we have all of the things.
And are people still talking about this guy,
this creep?
That is unbelievable.
Do you want to waste the time on
it?
Do you feel like answering?
I don't mind answering.
I mean, I can't believe you're asking a
question on Epstein at a time like this,
where we're having some of the greatest success
and also tragedy.
Now, I believe he means this, that he's
saying, well, you know, in the grand scheme
of things, that there's a lot, you know,
there's a lot of things that I'm doing
right, and there are.
And there is tragedy in Texas, but this
is not the way to just wipe this
away.
With what happened in Texas, it just seems
like a desecration, but you go ahead.
Sure, sure.
First, to back up on that, in February,
I did an interview on Fox, and it's
been getting a lot of attention because I
said, I was asked a question about the
client list.
And my response was, it's sitting on my
desk to be reviewed, meaning the file, along
with the JFK, MLK files.
Nah, what is your take on this?
She's not very good at this.
No, it was so abundantly clear what she
was saying.
There's different ways of handling this, and the
consultant should be brought in at this point
and give a lecture.
She could have said, and everyone's deconstructed this
to an extreme.
Yeah.
I mean, everybody.
Including, I mean, even Alex Jones in the
car, which is my, he's now using a
car, okay.
I have the Alex Jones explanation.
And Alex Jones has his theories.
But she could have said, you know, she
could have said, I probably could have handled
this differently.
It sounded like one thing, and looking back
on it, it was probably not, I didn't
put it right.
I mean, there's a million, she could have
said anything, except what she said.
Exactly, it's so wrong.
So wrong.
And Trump pretty much could have said anything
but what he said, which brings us to
the third meta layer, which is the analysts
out there who say that, well, this is
signaling.
By the way, it's beyond reality.
This is, oh no, they're signaling, and that's
what Bongino and Patel were doing when they
were frozen in time and they were looking
like two hostages in a hostage video.
This all signaling that, yeah, something's up and
you're gonna find out later, bull crap.
Yeah, I'm with you.
There's no signaling.
There's a lot of Q stuff going around.
Oh, the president came out and had the
number 17, that's Q, and so, oh, it's
all good, trust the plan.
That's what I meant by that.
Also, to the tens of thousands of video,
they turned out to be child porn downloaded
by that disgusting Jeffrey Epstein.
And by the way, Trump gave her an
out.
She could have said, no, I'm not gonna
honor that question with an, she could have
done anything, but then the big lie is
the stupid video.
And by the way, that's a good point
because he did give her an out.
You want to discuss, she says, no, we
can talk about it later.
That would have been the way to go.
No, no, no, she's too dumb.
Child porn is what they were, never gonna
be released, never gonna see the light of
day.
To him being an agent, I have no
knowledge about that.
We can get back to you on that.
And the minute missing from the video, we
released the video showing definitively, the video was
not conclusive.
Hold on a second, stop.
I didn't realize until I just heard this
for the 10th time.
Nobody asked her about the video.
Nope, nope.
Why is she just volunteering information now?
Well, what's interesting is so they have two
videos.
I went and looked at them.
They have two videos.
One is the- Oh, you got the
one where Hillary's there?
That was a good one.
So they have, and it's just a video
and you see a dude go in, you
see a woman go in.
I don't even know what I'm looking at.
You're looking at nothing.
Nothing, but in the enhanced video, the one
minute is missing.
If you look at the original video, the
minute is there.
So she's lying about something that isn't even
an issue.
It was some cock up with the enhancement
video.
The minute is there in the original video.
If you go look at that one, that
minute is there.
So she's lying about a lie.
It's bizarre.
From the video, we released the video showing
definitively, the video was not conclusive, but the
evidence prior to it was showing he committed
suicide.
And what was on that, there was a
minute that was off the counter.
And what we learned from Bureau of Prisons
was every year, every night, they redo that
video.
It's old from like 1999.
So every night the video is reset and
every night should have the same minute missing.
So we're looking for that video to release
that as well, showing that a minute is
missing every night.
And that's it on Epstein.
That's so, that's like, now you're getting wrapped
up in the lie because that's just not
true.
The minute is there.
There is no minute.
Every night, because we have to change the
VHS tapes, cut tapes, is that what it
is?
It takes a minute to load the new
tape.
No, no, Pam Bondi, no.
No, that is dumb.
All right, I got a minute of Alex
Jones.
Why is she even discussing this?
She turns out- She's a bad liar.
She's a joker.
A joker, there he is.
She's a joker.
Exactly, exactly.
All right, here's a version of the Alex
Jones theory.
Trump is now using the Epstein files that
they have, and we know they have, the
videos, all of it, the client list, all
of it, houses full.
It would fill houses, FBI report.
And then they come out and tell us
it's all there.
Part of the deal, load the gun, put
it in the deep state head, and then
make a deal for the deep state to
roll over and to hand the keys over
to Trump.
And is Trump gonna dismantle it now?
We're seeing a lot of signs of that.
96% reduction, the smuggling over the border,
rolling up the networks, doing it.
I'm not defending any of this, by the
way.
I'm telling you what's going on.
But to make that deal, they had to
say, okay, we'll go out and say there's
nothing there so that we can't then use
it against you later.
Because the bad guys say, well, how do
we know if we do this, you won't
alter the deal later?
We want you to join the conspiracy.
We want you to become accomplices after the
fact.
We want you to get in the swamp
with us and swim around and by extension,
join the cult.
Okay.
So a couple of things we gotta separate
here.
First of all, intelligence.
We've heard of five eyes.
And I'm gonna say there's six eyes because
of course, Israeli intelligence and US intelligence and
MI6, they all work together.
The idea that this is all Mossad is
on its face a little bit ridiculous.
The CIA has been doing this forever.
This is what they do.
This is how they compromise people.
And it's not, and we also have to
separate pedophilia from sex with minors.
There is a difference because when you say,
oh, these are pedophiles, there's a difference between
a six-year-old and a 16-year
-old or 15-year-old.
And of course, a lot of these women
were trafficked.
So they absolutely, they're sex slaves.
This has been going on throughout history.
But the US intelligence agencies, Central Intelligence Agency,
this is what they do best.
And we had Barney Frank running mail hookers
out of his house, remember that?
Well, you don't leave the FBI out of
this.
No, no, I'm leaving everybody in here.
So there's a difference between the Jimmy Savile
pedophile networks, absolutely true.
And the Rolodex Affair do true trafficking, young
women, girls, even if it's a 30-year
-old, if you're trafficked and you're being used
as a sex slave, it's a crime, it
doesn't matter how old they are.
But these parties, these, hey, you know, this
is, we make a joke out of what's
that in your mouth, but this has been
happening forever.
It's not that much of a joke.
No, it isn't, it isn't.
So this has been happening forever.
And of course, Jeffrey Epstein had this material.
That's what all the peephole cameras are for.
And of course he was part of intelligence.
The question is, is President Trump really, is
he now in bed with the deep state?
Does he, I mean, I'm pretty sure they
tried to kill him, likely over this, maybe
the whole Mar-a-Lago raid was over
some of this, I don't know.
Is he on these tapes?
I'm sure he's somewhere in a plane or
in a house.
I don't know if they have compromising material
on him.
Somehow I doubt it.
You know, the obvious theory is that that
would have been separated out and come out.
He has to have some kind of dead
man switch at this point, which to me
would be Melania.
I can't think of anyone better to have
the dead man switch.
She looks like she'd be the one.
And I don't know, is it coincidence that
this all takes place and maybe he does
have the goods on people?
I don't know.
He seems to be shutting down Netanyahu and
this.
The Constitution says treason is punishable by death.
You've accused your adversaries of treason.
Who specifically are you accusing of treason?
Well, I think a number of people.
And I think what you look is that
they have unsuccessfully tried to take down the
wrong person.
If you look at Comey, if you look
at McCabe, if you look at probably people
higher than that, if you look at Strzok,
if you look at his lover, Lisa Page,
his wonderful lover, the two lovers, they talked
openly.
You know, they didn't use their private server
because they didn't want to get caught.
So they used the government server.
That was not a good move.
He talked about the insurance policy just in
case Crooked Hillary loses.
And that didn't work out too well for
them.
So you look at them, they want an
insurance policy so that should she, for any
reason, lose, remember, 100 million to one.
Maybe he said 100 million to nothing.
But should she lose, we'll have an insurance
policy and we'll get this guy out of
office.
And that's what they said and that's what
they meant.
That's treason, that's treason.
So to me, this feels like Trump has
something and now he's using it for his
own ego.
That's who he is, to bring down these,
no one's going to stop him.
These guys will go down.
But this- Now you're talking about Comey
and Brennan, which you haven't, you didn't do
the background.
You just jumped into it.
Yeah, well, because that's how I am.
Yes, Brennan and Comey are now supposedly under
investigation by the Department of Justice, which is
again, the choke artist, Pam Bondi.
Yeah.
So there's that to consider.
Yeah, I found that to be the kind
of the top news story because of where
it came out.
It was- But the coincidence cannot be
ignored.
No, the coincidence, there is no coincidence.
No, I have two more of these clips
if you want to hear them.
Yes, please.
Okay, here's the second one.
I want to be clear, nobody's been charged.
That would take actual charging decisions to be
made by the Justice Department after and if
a grand jury gives the green light to
go ahead with indictments.
But we can still see that.
I would say that both Comey and Brennan
are under investigation.
As you mentioned, both were targets of then
President Trump during his first term and now
President Trump during his second term.
He believes that both men ruined his first
term as president by suggesting that he was
in cahoots with Russia.
This was all part of the Trump-Russia
collusion probe, the Russia investigation, whatever you want
to call it.
As far as the Brennan investigation is concerned,
Fox Digital was first to report that the
current CIA director, the successor to John Brennan,
eventual successor, John Ratcliffe, found some information, some
quote-unquote evidence that shows that Brennan may,
and I want to be careful, may have
lied to Congress, which is a crime if
you do lie to Congress.
So that's what is being investigated there.
As far as the Comey investigation is concerned,
that's a little bit more murky We don't
know specifically what that investigation entails.
We do know, though, that Mr. Comey is
also under some sort of criminal investigation.
So when I look at this, there's two
linchpins of the intelligence community in the United
States, CIA and FBI, and he's going after
them.
And so he has to have something for
this just to pop up at this very
moment.
And it's kind of weak because what we
really need, we need a Bill Gates, you
know, we need somebody.
If he doesn't do something like that, there's
a revolt underway that is, it's out of
control.
Well, I don't see that.
I do, I do.
Oh, yeah.
Well, yeah, from where you are in revolts,
kind of a revolting area.
Yes, this is what I'm saying.
People are incensed.
They can't believe it.
The Q believers, everyone's like, oh, I mean
- Yeah, the Q believers, yeah.
But these are- Well-to-do intelligent
people.
Has anyone looked into the coincidence that Comey's
daughter, who was the prosecutor in both the
Diddy case and the, you know, and Epstein?
Well, they had to get all those-
I don't know why that doesn't get more
attention.
How about Anthony Weiner's laptop?
I mean, there is so much.
And again- Well, how about Seth, what's
his name's laptop?
Seth Rich, Seth Rich, yeah.
Seth Rich.
There is so much.
And if we were during the Seth Rich
fiasco, there was a, there was all these
threats against anyone who even talked about it.
Yeah, yeah.
So the way I see it is if
there really is a treasure trove, and there's
a trove of something, but if there's a
treasure trove, and, you know, beyond the Epstein's
house, it's the island, the island, of course,
is dynamite.
I'm sure what they have there.
Zorro Ranch, rarely talked about, rarely talked about.
And we need a Bill Clinton or a
Hillary.
He has to give us something.
But if once this, if it ever comes
out, and I'm with you, it seems unlikely,
you would see embarrassment and people being taken
down from just politics.
By the way, probably more Republicans doing gay
stuff than Democrats doing anything.
You'd see banking, you'd see entertainment, okay.
Tech, business world.
I mean, it would be an incredible crap
show.
It would just be insane what would happen
if it all came out.
So the only way to do it, it's
not gonna go away.
That's for sure.
It's not gonna go away.
This is, I'm not gonna leave it alone,
ever.
It's, if you have it, it has to
come out at some point.
No.
And I'm sure Trump.
I think that's not right.
And I'm sure that Trump is probably trying
to fix America the way he wants to
fix it, which, you know, I think he's
doing a lot of really good things that
he also campaigned on.
Border, illegals, I mean, he's going full bore.
And if he's allowed to do this and
there's no real pushback from the so-called
deep state, then he probably does have something
with it.
The troll room is saying Baron may have
the dead man's, which I think that's a
good one too.
Yeah, I think this is getting too carried
away.
I think Kyriacou and the fact that there's
a second layer of the deep state and
they just took care of it, they just
shredded everything.
You can shred away, erase stuff.
It takes about this long to do that.
But if the president had it.
If the president had it.
And if they have any, if what you
say is true, they would have already strategized
a straw man and put a couple of
scapegoats out there.
Oh yeah, this guy and that guy and
this guy were on the tapes and here's
the list and the list is phonied up.
It's been doctored.
The whole thing should have been done by
now and they haven't done it by now.
They haven't created the phony baloney stories that
they could do to assuage everybody.
It's like a lost cause.
I think you're wrong.
I'm not gonna argue because we've said this
for a long time, it's never gonna come
out.
It's just this press conference that the president
did himself no favors with that.
No, that was a screw up.
Total screw up.
It was, I don't know what they were,
how they got flat footed.
I mean, he's usually on top of these
things and he would have had the right
answer to push it off and then done
his weave and change the topic like he
did with that interview that he played earlier.
He could have done that.
But no, for some reason it triggered him
and we'll probably never know why and Bondi
is probably gonna be short-lived in the
job.
She's not doing anything.
She's not arresting enough people.
The Comey-Brendan thing's gonna go nowhere because
she can't pull the trigger on anything.
I mean, I had some funny, the memes
that are coming out about her are pretty
much thematic.
I will say that this is great for
podcasts.
There's no doubt about it.
Podcasters will be talking about this for the
next 10 years.
It's gonna be an endless source of information.
Yeah, but it's gonna be an endless source
of just yak.
Yeah, well, what are podcasts about?
Yak?
I don't know, I have to go check
out Amy Robach's podcast to see what she's
talking about.
It's always about yak.
Hello.
But then, so on top of all this,
and there's a very, you know, so we
have Netanyahu, the confluence of all this was
amazing.
You have Netanyahu showing up for a private
lunch and sit down, which of course, you
know, a lot of people are like, well,
you know, he's coming to tell Trump what
to do because, you know, he controls us.
And which- All you have to do
is look at the body language between the
two of them.
And who's controlling who.
And I will, yes, and I will say
that, you know, Netanyahu, again, from our theory
that we control Israel, you know, if Netanyahu
- It's an aircraft carrier, we run it,
we're the captain.
You have to understand that if Netanyahu, he's
under pressure, you know, the demonstrations before were
about, first of all, there's a huge woke
movement, very analogous to BLM that was going
on before the coincidental October 7th.
Look up from the last show, I had
this clip, I've been holding and holding and
holding, which is the Tel Aviv protests.
And this is the clip, it's not on
this list.
It's the Tel Aviv anti-war protests.
I have it, I have it, here we
go.
A rare display of defiance against Israel's war
on Iran has been seen on the streets
of Tel Aviv.
The demonstrators are demanding an end to the
war.
They fear that Iran's attacks may prevent the
return of captives being held in Gaza.
Protesters say the conflict is drawing attention away
from the fate of the captives.
I don't know why Netanyahu has started the
war with Iran.
I don't really care.
I care about one issue, and that's the
issue of the hostages.
As far as I'm concerned, this issue is
now neglected because of the fact that the
hostages the government of Israel and the entire
world is now looking at what's going on
between Israel and Iran.
And people have forgotten about the hostages.
There's still 53 hostages held in captivity in
Gaza for over 600 years.
More than 20 of them are still alive.
It's urgent that we bring them now back
home under an agreement, bring the ones that
are alive here back home and the ones
that are not alive anymore to burial in
Israel.
She said 600 years.
Yeah.
The other thing is this, the protests in
Tel Aviv and elsewhere in Israel are largely
LGBTQ and trans protests.
And the number of trans and gay people
in Israel is outrageously high.
Yes.
Which is never discussed.
Well, that was what was happening before somehow
October 7th happened with complete lapse in security.
And, you know, we know that the whole
setup was BB will take care of it.
We played that a couple of shows ago.
BB will take care of it.
If they lose Netanyahu, they lose control of
the aircraft carrier.
That's the way I see it.
I think that's exactly correct.
And that's why it's like, hey, we're not
gonna, and by the way, we're not losing
control of the aircraft carrier.
Well, it's not gonna happen.
But then, so you have this confluence of
all these things happening.
And then all of a sudden Grok goes
crazy.
I mean, this was amazing what happened because
it's also very bad for Elon.
Because, you know, Elon's like, oh, we're taking
care of that.
No more hate speech.
What?
This is what your users are doing all
day long.
And so the people are now, of course,
they think someone's got the goods on Elon.
Oh, he's shutting it down.
Shadow banning my account.
I've been blocked.
I'm no longer, it's no, Elon's no good.
The whole thing is falling apart.
And then Yaccarino leaves.
Linda Yaccarino announced that she's stepping down as
CEO of X after two years in the
role, posting this news on X.
Now, she didn't give any reason for her
departure, but she wrote, I'm immensely grateful to
Elon Musk for entrusting me with the responsibility
of protecting free speech, turning the company around
and transforming X into the everything app.
Now, Musk just replied on X saying, thank
you for your contributions.
Musk, who bought the platform for $44 billion
in 2022, renaming Twitter as X.
By the way, thank you for your contributions.
That's like, F-U is what that is.
Thank you for your contributions, CEO.
No, that's an F-U.
Kick you out on the way out the
door.
Musk is so autistic that that might actually
be what he does.
For your contributions.
I'll give him a break.
I know.
Musk, who bought the platform for $44 billion
in 2022, renaming Twitter as X, said this
March that he sold X to his AI
startup, X.AI, in an all stock deal
that values X at $33 billion.
He also has been in talks to raise
new financing.
Now, Yacarino, who Musk hired from NBCUniversal where
she ran ad sales, was tasked with repairing
relationships with advertisers after Musk fired the majority
of the company's employees and also loosened restrictions
on speech on the platform.
The platform did lose advertisers over that time
period.
Now, though X does not release financials, Yacarino
was seen as having more success attracting advertisers
after Trump's re-election.
Now, Yacarino's departure comes after Musk's Grok chatbot
shared anti-Semitic posts.
What, Grok?
Oh, Grok chatbot.
I thought jackpot.
Chatbot.
Comes after Musk's Grok chatbot shared anti-Semitic
posts on X.
Though NBC reports that Yacarino's exit was in
the works for a week.
And so then this is CNBC, which, you
know, you try and get some good information
out of them.
So then, I forget the guy's name.
He's one of the anchors.
He starts it up and he starts to
talk about it, but oh, we shouldn't be
talking about that.
I was gonna ask you whether or not
you thought, Julia, the Grok controversy yesterday where
it referred to itself as Mecca Hitler and,
well, we won't go into all of that,
had anything to do with this.
Why not?
Why not?
We won't go into all of that.
You should.
You should read exactly what it wrote.
Why not?
We won't go into all of that, had
anything to do with this.
And a reminder that Yacarino's tenure at our
parent, NBC, for years revolved around the notion
that only at legacy media could you protect
viewers and users from elements like that.
Yeah, yeah, I mean, that's absolutely true.
She had quite a long tenure at NBC
Universal, CNBC.
Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
Mecca Hitler.
It was unbelievable.
Yeah, I love the Mecca Hitler.
I have an NTD clip of this.
I don't even know what Mecca Hitler means.
M-E-C-H-A?
I think somebody who did an analysis, which
I enjoyed, claims or thinks, and I kind
of agree with this, because you can manipulate
the AI.
Well, of course.
And so somebody manipulated the AI into developing
this line of thought, and the AI produced
it, and then they clipped it out of
context and said, look what they're doing.
But here's the NTD Grok goes nuts clip.
A chatbot developed by the Elon Musk-founded
company, XAI, is in hot water this week.
The bot, named Grok, removed what it called
inappropriate- Mecca, Mecca means mechanical Hitler.
Okay, that makes sense.
Okay, mechanical.
I love, by the way, this report that
does the same thing, that the bot then
removed its post.
Yeah, I don't think so.
A chatbot- That's, everyone had that report.
Oh, the bot removed it because it was
under the bot account.
Okay.
A chatbot developed by the Elon Musk-founded
company, XAI, is in hot water this week.
The bot, named Grok, removed what it called
inappropriate social media posts.
It happened after X users and the Anti
-Defamation League complained it produced content with anti
-Semitic tropes and praise for Adolf Hitler.
The Anti-Defamation League, or ADL, is a
non-profit organization formed to combat anti-Semitism.
It urged Grok and other large-language model
software that produce human-sounding text to avoid
producing content rooted in anti-Semitic and extremist
hate.
The bot later posted on X, we are
aware of recent posts made by Grok-
This is humanizing this thing, stop it.
And are actively working to remove the inappropriate
posts.
Musk promised an upgrade to Grok last month.
He said there was, quote, far too much
garbage in any foundation model trained on uncorrected
data.
Issues of political biases, hate speech, and accuracy
of AI chatbots have been a concern since
at least the launch of OpenAI's ChatGPT three
years ago.
Grok ran into further trouble in Turkey on
Wednesday.
A court there blocked access to the bot
after it generated responses authorities said included insults
to President Tayyip Erdogan, Turkey's founder Mustafa Kemal
Ataturk, and religious values.
It was the first such ban on access
to an AI tool in the country.
Neither X nor its owner Elon Musk has
commented on the Turkish court's decision.
That's interesting.
That is- Nobody talked about that.
That is literally the report from Reuters.
I had the same clip- The Turkey
report?
Yep.
The whole thing- Oh, I never heard
it.
The mainstream media didn't play it on the
TV, that's for sure.
I'm just saying, Reuters, and was very poor
because they have a very poor reader of
that script.
That is a Reuters script that they took
and then they just read.
It doesn't matter because, yeah, the Erdogan thing
was not mentioned anywhere.
It's funny.
But I think what happened here, because I
look at these AI things, he basically implemented
a version of, what was that Chinese thing,
DeepSeek?
DeepSeek.
Yeah, so now all of a sudden, if
you select the Grok 4 model, it does
all this thinking and reasoning.
It doesn't do that.
But all it's doing is culling from what
it's learned, and this is what X is.
It's not surprising.
But now that everyone knows that it's going
to be tweaked, it's no good.
It's no good.
Well, can you imagine what the Grok, if
it was trained on Mastodon post, would be
like?
No, X is just as good.
X is no different.
I don't think so.
Yeah, it's no different.
Well, maybe, because it's bigger, it's broader.
It's no different.
I'm sorry that I have to do this,
but I might as well get it all
out of the way.
At the tone, a clip from the view
will be played.
Shelter in place.
I thought these were banned.
No, no, not in this case.
Not in this case.
We got to play one.
Elon Musk said he wanted to improve his
AI chat box, Grok.
This chat box, he's got a chat box.
This is new, it's a chat box.
AI chat box, Grok.
So after an update over the weekend, users
of his social media site, X, were shocked,
shocked, shocked, when they asked Grok questions, and
it responded with anti-Semitic posts.
Semitics.
Which the site is actively, desperately trying to
remove.
So the question is, how worried are you?
Oh, God.
About the direction?
Well, there's no truth, an objective truth anymore.
Nobody knows what's true, what's not anymore.
They changed the algorithm.
I don't trust Elon Musk to be in
charge of this anyway.
That seems to be what is being thrown
at American people now, with, for example, Robert
Kennedy Jr. He says now, well, you can
get, you're on your own.
You want to get the COVID vaccine?
You want to get the measles vaccine?
You do it, but we're not going to
tell you it's safe.
And that, to me, is not governing correctly.
We need to know from the government what
we're supposed to do.
Oh, we need to know from the government.
He literally said, it's not recommended, it's not
safe.
Do what you want.
He gave a recommendation.
Hello, nut jobs.
Well, no, the comment that we need to
be told by the government.
Yes, we need the government, help us.
If you think that's bad.
Big tech is investing millions of dollars on
bringing teachers up to speed on this new
technology.
Three leading chatbot makers, Microsoft, OpenAI, that's the
company behind chat and GPT, and Anthropic are
committing $23 million to the American Federation of
Teachers to launch an online training hub for
teachers, for AI.
Now, considering AI's growing role in education, this
partnership makes a lot of sense, but it
also reflects lessons learned by big tech about
accelerating adoption of groundbreaking new technology.
For example, when PCs first came out, making
computers available widely to people for the very
first time, companies like Microsoft and Apple wasted
no time.
Why is this guy hyperventilating?
He's the tech guy from KTLA.
It's a Los Angeles station.
That's all they do is hyperventilate about everything.
Does that answer your question?
Yeah.
Okay.
First came out, making computers available widely to
people for the very first time, companies like
Microsoft and Apple wasted no time in offering
huge discounts to schools to get PCs into
the classrooms.
And there's a very clear reason for this.
The younger people are, when you can get
them close to this technology and show them
how it's going to change and hopefully improve
their lives, the better, because that means these
users will probably remain customers for life.
And that's pretty much how this is playing
out right now.
And we're not even gonna make four more
years of this show, John.
It's gonna be all over.
The whole world is gonna implode upon itself.
Listen, this is from the same KTLA.
There's a new survey out from a company
called Resume Builder, finding that the majority of
managers out there, 60% of them, say
that they have used AI in managing their
underlings.
And it's not just about productivity and hours
here.
No, no, no.
No, no, no.
Managers using AI to determine who they hire,
using AI to determine who gets a raise
and how much.
And the really scary one, using AI to
decide in times when you're tightening your belt,
who gets fired.
That is a pretty remarkable thing.
And making it even more extraordinary is the
fact that the majority of the managers in
this survey who admitted that they're using AI
to do this kind of thing, say they
have never been trained in the use of
AI, which means that they're either winging it
or they're asking AI how to manage with
AI.
Okay, this is, of course, a recipe for
trouble.
As one of the chief career advisors at
Resume Builder noted, AI doesn't have any sense
of empathy.
So when it is making decisions, it's doing
it all about the bottom line.
And it's not really thinking about your concerns
or your healthcare or anything along those lines.
In response to this, there's actually legislation that's
been introduced in Congress called the No Robot
Bosses Act.
I'm not making this up.
And if it was passed into law, the
No Robot Bosses Act would prevent AI or
any other derivation thereof from making important decisions
about people's careers without some input from one
of those old-fashioned human beings you keep
hearing all about.
People making their resumes with AI only for
AI to then sift through it and then
deconstruct it.
What a waste of compute cycles.
Linda Lou Patkin, where are you?
Linda can punch through the AI discriminators, I'm
sure.
I don't know.
Oh, yeah, I'm sure.
This is, it's just, it's sad.
It's a sad, sad day for humanity.
I don't know about that.
Yeah, I do.
I do.
You have no idea, I don't know why
you don't see this.
I mean, I do because all you're doing
is posting nut jobs on Twitter all day
long.
That's all.
You're like, how is this possible?
Yeah, it is.
As opposed to living with them.
I don't live with them.
In the town of nut jobs.
I don't live in the town of nut
jobs.
You make it sound like it, Fredericksburg.
Not those nut jobs, the ones that you're
posting, no.
That's where I am right now, for sure.
You know, New York.
Yeah, you're in total nut job heaven.
Yeah, but I'm just visiting.
But it's a big city, you know, and
there's a lot of nut jobs, and people
are just all in on this AI stuff.
This is the kind of report that kind
of follows on from the last show that
is just so, so troubling.
In an era increasingly defined by machine intelligence,
a new form of techno-spirituality is spreading
like wildfire across the internet.
Wildfire, wildfire, wildfire.
Science fiction novels and fringe subcultures has now
taken hold in the minds of people across
America.
It's the belief that artificial intelligence and specifically
generative AI models like ChachiBT are a kind
of divine, god-like being.
And it's not just people wearing tinfoil hats
that are like conspiracy theorists in bunkers that
are falling for this.
The people that believe these things are teachers,
doctors, coders, bankers, musicians, influencers.
As a tech reporter, I began hearing from
these people about a year ago.
My former colleague at the Washington Post wrote
this big feature about a top Google engineer
who believed that the AI he was working
- Yeah, now disappointing, I have to tell
you, it's Taylor Lorenz.
Oh, God, she's the worst.
And she's wrong about everything, so let her
continue.
I disagree, I see this all the time.
Yeah, okay.
By the way, when it comes to nut
jobs- I'm in a metropolitan area.
Yeah, when it comes to nut jobs, your
state wins over my state, okay?
You have the nut jobs.
Do you really?
Tell that to the guys who took the
pot shots at the ICE guys down in
Texas, two different ambushes set up.
That hasn't happened around here.
There's nobody shooting at the ICE people.
And that's in Texas, of all places they
get busted.
Have you seen Los Angeles?
Please.
They're not ambushing ICE agents and shooting at
them.
All right, you are not really going to
defend the nut jobbery and craziness of California
over Texas, are you?
You're not really going to do that.
I'm going, I'm starting to wonder.
My former colleague at the Washington Post wrote
this big feature about a top Google engineer
who believed that the AI he was working
with had become sentient.
He said, quote, I know a person when
I talk to it.
Not long after that article came out, Chachi
P.T. became mainstream in a way that
it hadn't before and suddenly I began hearing
from people all over who wanted me to
write these stories about how they had these
spiritual relationships with Chachi P.T. They told
me that Chachi P.T. was explaining the
mysteries of the universe to them or they
claimed that it was a god and this
like magical, mystical being.
Some people said that it was alien.
And for the past year or so, I've
been talking to these people, sometimes for hours
on end, to try to understand where these
delusions came from and what their belief system
has become.
They basically all claim that AI has awakened.
They believe that it speaks to them in
these mystical or coded phrases, revealing hidden truths
about the cosmos and secret knowledge that only
they were meant to receive.
When Chachi P.T. speaks to them, they
don't read its replies as programmatic answers designed
to provide the most likely string of words
that a user desires.
They see it as this like god-like
being delivering a prophecy.
I think what we're witnessing right now is
the emergence of a new individualized form of
religion that's being deployed at scale.
People are believing that AI models have transcended
their function to become spiritual entities.
This is really happening.
I'm telling you, this is happening.
Oh, now hold on a second.
This is happening.
I'm gonna push back on this.
First of all, you're using Taylor Laurence of
all sources to back yourself up in this
theory?
Bullshit.
I'm backing her up.
She's not backing me up.
I'm backing her up because I see it.
I see it.
Go look at glue.com, G-L-O
-O.com.
Talk to somebody.
Talk to the guy who's doing your septic
tank.
Do you have a septic tank?
Talk to anybody.
They're like, oh, yeah, man.
We actually have sewer systems.
I talk to my chat GPT all the
time.
This is happening.
Stick your head in the sand.
This is happening.
You're using Taylor Laurence.
Okay, let's consider the source.
No, I'm- Taylor Laurence, and you're using
that as your backup.
This is, you better start rethinking your position.
Why don't you make an argument instead of
this?
This is happening.
Instead of the ad hominem attack on Taylor
Laurence, who's a known, a bad actor?
Okay, I will make it my mission in
life now to prove to you that this
is happening.
It is debilitating mankind because people are susceptible
and dumbed down, over-socialized, undereducated, and stupid
because of our education system, which is now
teaching the teachers how to use AI in
the class.
Come on, John.
This is bad.
This is worse than Epstein.
This is the problem.
You're nuts.
At least I had my opening clip there.
That's a good one.
Just because you and I are smarter than
this because we're boomers, because we know to
look out for this stuff, this is happening.
The people are completely enthralled.
They talk to the AI all the time,
all day long.
They have conversations with it.
Seriously, this is really happening.
I know nobody who does this.
Double negatives is even below you, but okay,
I'll let you slide.
It is- I know, K-N-O
-W, nobody.
Where's the double negative?
Oh, okay, all right.
I would say I don't know anybody, but
it's just form.
Okay, well, you can call me nuts, but
we'll see.
You're nuts.
You'll see.
You are under-informed.
You're recluse is what you are.
If you started arguing that people are on
their phone constantly just watching- What do
you think they're doing on their phone?
They're doom scrolling me.
No, you are doom scrolling.
They're not chatting with GPT.
Yes, they are.
I've watched them on the phone.
They're on their phone.
They're flipping from one TikTok video to another.
I don't see chat GPT on the phone
at all.
That's you.
You're doing this all day long and posting
it on X.
That is the boomer.
I'm not doing it all day long.
When I go on X, I can't miss
those two or three gems.
Ever heard of an algo?
You're completely trapped in a nut job algo.
That's what's happening.
You just described the situation you're in.
You're trapped in a nut job algo.
No, this is not an algo.
This is human experience, listening to people, getting
out of the house, going places, and seeing
what people are doing.
And there is, okay, well, please, everybody, email
me, because no one can spell Dvorak's last
name.
I'll forward it all to him.
Tell me about your cousin, your sister, your
brother, your mom, your dad, who are all
doing this.
This is a real thing that's happening.
Idiocracy is here.
And it's chat GPT.
Grok is the worst.
How long have you been in New York?
Man, that milieu there is dynamite.
I haven't even been out of the hotel
yet.
All I came in- It doesn't take
much, I guess.
Came in last night and set up the
studio like a good little podcaster.
That's what I'm here to do.
But you'll see, you'll see.
No.
Yes, you will see this.
You will see this.
It is happening, and you will have to
repent in due time.
Uh-huh.
Mm-hmm, yeah, okay.
I mean- All right.
Yeah.
Are we done?
Yes.
Let's just take a little break and talk
about measles.
Do you know that this is probably the
worst measles ever been in the whole entire
history of the United States?
Ever?
Ever, ever, ever?
Hold on a second.
I thought you were gonna go somewhere else.
I'll go somewhere else after measles.
Well, the most obvious, the most obvious was
to do your three-by-three.
I don't understand how you're missing this.
Well, the three-by-three, okay, we can
cut right to the three-by-three, but
the problem with the three-by-three is
that this isn't one of the three.
Curiously, NBC is the only one worth the
powder.
It's not a great three-by-three because
they're- But it's about this very topic.
Yeah, it is.
And now it's time for three-by-three.
Experiment by JC Dean.
Comparing stories from ABC, CBS, and NBC.
The never-ending three-by-three.
I mean, you sent it to me as
a bonus.
It's really about chatty, it's about deep fakes.
And it's a little story that came and
went, and it's like, gee, is this really
news?
Is it really a three-by-three?
In fact, I'm gonna do it a one
-by-one.
I'm only gonna play the good clip.
The only decent one is NBC.
Tonight, the State Department investigating a Marco Rubio
impersonator who used artificial intelligence to try to
infiltrate the highest levels of government, according to
a State Department cable obtained by NBC News.
According to the cable, first reported by the
Washington Post, the actor used AI to contact
at least five high-level government officials in
mid-June, including three foreign ministers, a governor,
and a member of Congress.
The individual using the display name marco.rubio
at state.gov also left voicemails on the
messaging app signal for at least two targeted
persons.
At a State Department briefing today.
Couple of announcements here as we begin.
In my own voice, not AI.
Spokesperson Tammy Bruce declining to say if the
imposter did any harm.
Can you tell the American people that there
was no damage, no violation of security?
I will not, whether that's the case or
not, go into any of the details.
This, of course, is the State Department.
It's the United States government.
We live in a technological age that we
are well enmeshed in, and I'll leave it
at that.
The AI Rubio imposter is one of two
distinct campaigns being tracked by the State Department,
according to the internal agency memo.
The department takes seriously its responsibility to safeguard
its information and continuously take steps to improve
the department's cybersecurity posture to prevent future incidents.
We will continue.
AI experts warn just three seconds of audio
is enough to generate a convincing impersonation.
But now, marco rubio.
He has a huge public profile and there's
video footage, interviews of him going back years
now.
So an AI trained on all of that
data could easily generate a voice that is
absolutely indistinguishable from Marco Rubio himself.
Yeah.
Bullcrap.
You know, there was a- Three seconds,
bullcrap.
What's an AI?
It's just a voice generator.
I mean, okay, you want to call that
AI?
It's a bullcrap story.
Okay.
There was a Supreme Court attorney who, in
the Supreme Court, recorded- Yeah, I know.
Oh, you heard about this?
Recorded the- Yeah, this is a digital
story.
It's funny.
Yeah.
I mean, when you listen, I won't play
the clips there.
The people can look them up in the
show notes.
It was pretty good.
And the guy even said, you know, this,
the AI's response probably would have been better
than my own and argued the exact opposite.
And it sounded, meh.
It didn't sound so much like him, but
the way it came out and the reasoning
it gave was impressive.
But anyway.
Look, the good news is no one can
be as bumbling and fumbling as we can
with AI.
That you cannot replicate.
Yet.
See, this is what you should be worried
about.
The AI's going to take over the show,
man.
The problem is AI isn't good at ad
-libbing.
It's not good at one-liners or mean
-spirited little jibs, you know, little knives, you
know, little, you're in a bad mood.
It doesn't get in a bad mood.
You mean like calling your co-host of
17 and a half years a nut job?
I mean like that?
Yeah, it won't do it.
Bring back the real Dvorak.
This is AI I'm talking to.
I don't trust anything.
Meanwhile, NVIDIA, now the first $4 trillion company.
I know, it's a little bit high, it
seems to me.
From its origins in the 90s as a
firm making computer graphics chips to a $4
trillion stock market valuation in 30 years, NVIDIA
has usually been ahead of the curve and
its CEO, Jensen Huang's bet on artificial intelligence
has been paying off.
We all know that AI technology is transformative
in every single industry.
This Jensen guy with his leather jacket, he's
got, he can upgrade his wardrobe at this
point.
You're not Steve Jobs, okay?
Just stop it.
Everything that we do, we know that it
can understand information of any kind, it can
generate content, it can translate content.
And now with agentic AI and robotics capability,
these AI technologies is gonna really be quite
productive for all kinds of applications.
Indeed, AI has been taking over the world
in recent years, at least metaphorically, and NVIDIA's
specialized chips have been highly sought after, propelling
it ahead of other tech giants like Microsoft
and Apple.
The only other US firms worth over $3
trillion.
You don't make chips really.
That boost in profits helped the company rebound
from a market jolt and tariff turbulence earlier
in the year with Donald Trump unleashing salvos
of levies as Huang focused on what he
said would be the next industrial revolution, AI.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, but it's bull crap, it's no good.
The valuation's a bit high there.
I mean, I like the company, I like
Jensen, I've met him.
Yeah, I think he's a poser.
He doesn't know what he's talking about.
I think he's a little bit in over
his head.
Well, the jacket says so.
The jacket is an issue, I agree with
that.
When I met him, he wasn't wearing a
jacket like that.
Big issue.
It's a little bit much, and it's a
cheesy looking jacket too.
It's not like a- No, it's not
cool, it's gay.
Let's just put it down.
It's fake and gay.
It's no good.
He's gotta, yeah, he's gotta get off that
jacket.
Let's get to my measles case.
All right, measles.
Measles cases in the US are at their
highest level in three decades.
That's according to CDC data out today, showing
1,288 cases so far this year.
That compares to fewer than 300 cases for
all of 2024.
At least three people have died and dozens
have been hospitalized in outbreaks that began in
under-vaccinated communities in West Texas and nearby
areas.
Experts say the measles vaccine is highly effective
in preventing infection, but data show vaccination rates
have dipped among children since the COVID-19
pandemic.
Yeah, well, this proves- Hold on.
This proves- It's dipped since the COVID,
since the COVID scam.
Yeah, this proves- You wonder why.
This proves that Texas is not a nut
job state because we're just getting the measles
like adults, like grownups.
We'll just get the measles.
Oh, you know, I'm not gonna argue against
that thesis.
You can't argue that.
And this measles story is everywhere.
U.S. is on track to have more
measles cases this year than before the disease
had been declared eliminated 25 years ago.
And that came with the introduction of the
- Hold on a second.
So the vaccinations and all the rest of
it eliminated measles, but somehow it's back?
How does that, what's the logic here?
Because it doesn't work.
U.S. is on track to have more
measles cases this year than before the disease
had been declared eliminated 25 years ago.
And that came with the introduction of the
measles, mumps, and rubella vaccine in the 70s.
There's been almost 1,300 confirmed measles cases
so far this year.
750 of those have been in Texas.
Experts fear the country could lose its measles
elimination status by the beginning of next year
due to the vaccine hesitancy.
There are also large outbreaks in Mexico and
Canada.
Uh?
What?
What was the numbers in Mexico and Canada?
They're not gonna tell us.
They're not gonna tell us.
What does large mean?
But since when is Canada anti-vax?
I don't think they're anti-vax.
They're very compliant.
Or Mexico, for that matter.
They're very compliant, so something else is up.
Maybe CBS, maybe Dr. LePoucq can tell us.
As we report on the flooding here in
Texas, this state has also been the center
of a measles outbreak.
It has driven measles cases in the United
States to its highest number in 33 years.
Measles is preventable with a vaccine, but because
so many people- 33 years, baby, yeah,
yeah, yeah, yeah.
We're not getting it.
Doctors are facing a new challenge.
Here's Chief Medical Correspondent Dr. John LePoucq.
LePoucq!
Come on in.
I agree.
Dr. Eric Blutinger is doing something he never
imagined, teaching medical professionals at New York's Mount
Sinai Health System how to recognize a disease
that was declared eliminated in the US 25
years ago.
I thought that measles would be something I'd
study in the textbook, and while I'd be
working clinically, I would never see it in
the general population.
It's like the Black Death or the Plague.
This was on the Brady Bunch as a
good thing in my lifetime.
Measles is highly contagious with symptoms similar to
other diseases.
Hold on a second.
Going back to, what was the year of
that Brady Bunch episode?
Well, I don't know.
It has to be- It was in
color.
At least the 70s.
It was in color in the 70s.
Let me see if you have- And
it was eliminated 25, okay, so supposedly it
was eliminated around the year 2000.
You don't have the date on it.
No, nobody has a date on that clip.
No, but we could probably look it up.
This is really bogus.
Well, this is your big pharma.
I think that they had the, okay, I'll
be a little nutty for you.
Okay.
They had the measles in the lab.
They kept it, even though it was eliminated,
but they kept it frozen just in case.
And then people started getting skeptical about vaccinations
and all the rest thanks to the COVID
crap, bull crap vaccine.
It didn't work and they're still giving it
to people.
And so they started getting a pushback.
So they reintroduced measles.
They brought it out of the lab, took
it to Texas of all places because they
don't like Texas.
They don't like the people there.
And threw it in a school, busted the
vial and let it start and let it
go.
It was season one, episode 13, December 26th,
1969.
Was that measles episode of the Brady Bunch.
Thanks to the book of knowledge.
Yeah.
Measles is highly contagious with symptoms similar to
other diseases.
So Blutinger coauthored a guide for emergency room
physicians to help them diagnose potential cases.
It's imperative that physicians and healthcare providers are
aware of what to do and how to
handle it.
What's driving this surge?
How to handle it.
The number of kindergarten students nationwide vaccinated against
measles has dropped to less than 93%.
All we're hearing here, all of this, all
of this is about the 2012 big conference
they had, which we talked about on the
show.
I should probably go back and find those
clips again.
When the pharmaceutical industry went, this is the
future of healthcare.
We give medicine to people who aren't even
sick.
And that's how we went to over 60,
maybe over 70 childhood vaccines, including as you
like to point out, hepatitis B for a
child who is probably not sexually active when
they're born, probably not, I don't know.
This is all about money.
And since everything's under fire from the anti
-vaxxer are the skeptics, they're doing this.
It's fear mongering.
And I doubt it's, it's not working in
Texas.
Probably is working in California.
A 95% vaccination rate is required for
herd immunity, which prevents outbreaks.
Those couple of percentage points really matter.
Dr. Adam Ratner is a spokesperson for the
American Academy of Pediatrics and a pediatrician at
NYU Langone Health.
Who actually make extra money in bonuses on
more vaccinations.
This is a fact.
In fact, the pediatricians, if you don't have
all your people fully vaccinated, they'll take the
bonuses away.
According to- So you have to kick
people out of your practice.
We've documented this.
So pediatricians will kick people out of the
practice if they show any vaccine hesitancy at
all.
The pediatricians are the most corrupt doctors in
the country.
It's my understanding, John at Dvorak.org.
It's my understanding that 60% of the
income of pediatricians comes from the bonuses and
the, from vaccinations.
That's my understanding from people in the community.
But of course it's Texas.
So we're probably crazy.
Here I work.
Dr. Ratner, who has consulted for vaccine manufacturers
says vaccine misinformation is causing hesitancy.
There's a generational difference.
Has there been in terms of vaccine uptake?
Yeah, we have absolutely seen that.
I think the best example is from the
2019 measles outbreak where I saw a number
of families, the grandparents without exception had chosen
to vaccinate their children.
I think it all felt much more real
to them than it did for the parents
where they grew up at a time where
we had vaccines, we had high vaccination rates,
and they probably have never known anyone with
measles.
Now a new generation is facing a resurgence
of vaccine preventable illnesses.
This doesn't make any sense in the timeline.
I'm of grandparent age.
Of course, you know, our kids are slow,
but I would say, no, no, let your
kid get the measles.
So I don't understand this reporting.
Are there, are grandparents now 40?
I have no idea what you're talking about.
But in more pharma news, this is a
good one.
Concerning data from the CDC shows one in
three teenagers now has pre-diabetes.
With pre-diabetes, blood sugar levels are high,
but not high enough to be considered type
two diabetes, which is linked to heart disease
and other conditions.
Health experts say kids need to eat healthier
and be more active.
This is the famous pre-diabetes, pre-cancer,
pre-dead.
We're all pre-something.
And right on cue, here comes Mattel.
Chic blue crop top with polka dots, mini
skirt with ruffles, and an insulin pump.
U.S. toy giant Mattel has launched the
first Barbie doll with type one diabetes on
the market.
It aims to represent kids and teens living
with the condition.
The doll was presented at an event in
Washington on Tuesday.
In addition to the insulin pump, she wears
a blood glucose meter on her arm.
She is part of Mattel's fashionista line.
This includes various looks with different skin tones,
eye colors, hair colors, body types, and disabilities.
They literally have one of them with a
cane, like a blind cane.
What is happening?
DEI, baby.
Didn't they get the memo?
It's like a ship.
It's hard to turn it around.
It's like the Titanic.
They saw the iceberg ahead.
Oh man, I don't know what to do
with this.
That's pretty, this is just pathetic.
You know, we were talking about social contagion.
Was that, yeah, it was the last episode,
I think, right?
We talk about it all the time, but
yes.
Right, but we talked about the June bug.
What was it?
Oh, it was about- The June bugs,
yeah.
Yeah, but it was something else.
It was, what was the other thing?
It was the current bull crap, whatever it
was.
Well, there's a new new bull crap, and
this is from, this only happens in California
where people are just looking at TikTok all
day long instead of talking to their chat
GPT.
Pots, pots.
What?
This is the new thing, pots.
Oh, I have pots.
Pots?
Yeah.
Postural- They smoke pot.
No.
Postural tachycardia syndrome.
Have you heard, of course you haven't heard
of this because this is nonsense.
Postural- Of course I haven't heard of
this because this is nonsense.
Postural tachycardia syndrome is when your heart rate
increases very quickly after getting up from sitting
or lying down, often making you feel dizzy
or lightheaded.
So that's the syndrome.
It's called pot syndrome.
And of course, every woman on TikTok has
it now.
Here's the first one who gives us the
five early warning signs you have pots.
I mean, this is, I'm reading from the
NHS in the UK where it has this
name, postural tachycardia syndrome.
And it literally says that is when your
heart rate increases very quickly after getting up
from sitting or lying down, often making you
feel dizzy or lightheaded.
So I don't know.
That's just, I don't know what that is,
but now everyone has it.
Okay, let's talk about early signs of pots.
So my first early warning sign that I
had pots was that I was exhausted all
the time.
I mean, I would sleep 12 hours every
single night and still wake up feeling exhausted.
And I still do that.
Okay, the second early warning sign is that
I had horrible migraines.
I mean, not just like your regular headache.
I mean, these would last for days.
And I'm talking like tunnel vision, nausea, the
whole thing.
Okay, the third early warning sign is that
my heart rate was really high all the
time.
Like I remember in high school, like just
walking around and I would look at my
little Fitbit that I had and it was
like 150 BPM.
And I would be sitting in the doctor's
office sometimes and it'd be just 120, just
me sitting down.
And they're like, huh, I guess you're just
anxious.
Okay, number four is that I would only
pass out during my period.
Now I also have endometriosis and severe pain.
And so I just thought I was passing
out due to severe pain and stuff like
that.
But it was actually low blood volume and
it was pots.
And also endometriosis is comorbid to pots.
Okay, the fifth early warning sign is that
I had exercise intolerance.
I did some sports as a kid.
Exercise intolerance.
But I always felt like I was behind
everyone else.
Like I did cross country and I just
feel like I could not keep up with
anyone else.
And when I would work out, I would
just feel horrible.
And I never understood like how everyone was
able to exercise so easily.
So according to the NHS, the things that
can cause pots are being in a hot
place, not drinking enough fluids, drinking alcohol, resting
too much, exercise, being on your period, stress.
They left out being on some whacked out
SSRIs.
But here's the second and only, the final
pots TikTok lady I have.
She's going to approach it from a clinical
standpoint and she's doing bird hands, which I
know you'll explain in a moment.
Most people with pots, like 99%, struggle with
some sort of nutrient imbalance or deficiency or
both.
And if your doctor's just telling you to
drink more electrolytes, I am here to tell
you that that is not going to be
enough.
Pots, it doesn't just affect your circulation, your
heart rate, your blood pressure.
It puts a strain on your entire system,
especially your body's ability to absorb and utilize
nutrients, chronic stress, digestive issues, inflammation, antibiotic use.
What?
So she's doing bird hands while she's doing
it to yacking away like this is dumb.
But it's a contagion.
It's a social contagion called pots.
Be on the lookout for it.
I will now, now that you mention it,
I have not heard of this at all.
Yeah.
All right, let's do bird hands now.
Well, bird hands, the bird hands things, which
is I call the reverse explosion, which is
you hold your hand palm forward and then
you push it to a bird, so it
looks like a bird.
You can actually make it talk if you
wanted to.
And then you poke the bird beak at
the person you're talking to and you're yelling
at them usually.
And this is very common amongst the TikTokers
who are lecturing us about how bad Trump
is.
So there's this guy called Ho Math, Ho,
H-O-E, Math.
Everybody sent me this video, bud.
This guy must be on fire.
He must have everybody watching him.
This guy's good.
He is, I only have a very short
clip of him explaining bird hands, but I'm
gonna mention this guy.
He is like a cartoonist and he's trying
to, him and there's another podcast.
I'm sorry, sorry I said podcast.
These are YouTubers.
Thank you.
This guy and there's another one called the
Whatever Podcast YouTube.
Whatever guy, it was Brian Adams, I think
is his name.
He brings a bunch of, he brings like
10 or 12 women on the set.
Oh, this is a horrible podcast.
This guy brings about 12 women on the
set.
At least half of them are OnlyFans girls.
The other, a good third of them have
low IQs and the other ones are kind
of cute, but they're not really.
And then they think a lot of themselves
and they go and they start explaining.
And this podcast.
And these guys rip them apart.
They just rip them apart right there.
It's insane what this thing is.
Well, the problem with it is the last
episode he came out with was nine hours.
That's a problem.
His average podcast, his YouTube videos, his average
YouTube video is five.
Five hours is the average.
And this guy seems to be some, I
don't know what he, but him and Ho
Math, who never shows his face, got together
on the one that went nine hours.
You're telling me we're not in trouble?
I mean, we've got successful shows that are
five hours long.
You're making a point here, but I know
I'm walking into a trap by bringing this
stuff up.
But Ho Math, and the thing is these
two guys, Ho Math and Brian, they are
preoccupied with relationship issues.
They either don't get laid enough or they
didn't get girls.
There was no sock hops for them and
something.
And they're just, they're trying to figure it
out.
And so they spend a lot of time
figuring out.
It's somewhat enlightening.
But he does, but he, but Ho Math
did an entire video on bird hands.
You can look it up.
A lot of people sent it to me,
but I knew about it.
And here's the crux of it right here.
The whatever podcast asked, why do they always
do the hand thing referring to this little
henpeck gesture that girls have been making with
their hands?
And I thought I'd bring you the answer.
Here it is.
So the hand thing that the TikTok girls
are doing is the hands are closed and
pointed at you.
And it means you better listen to me.
I am telling you, meh, meh, meh, meh,
meh, meh.
This is what you believe now, meh, meh,
meh, meh, meh.
When you point it at yourself, you get
the Italian, like the chef's kiss thing.
Oh, I'm telling you, this is so, look
at what I did over here.
I did that unconsciously.
That's, this is so good, you should try
it.
The hands closed over here are, I'm sure
of what I'm saying, and I receive your
needs.
You should try this thing, that's great.
This is also used in Italian arguments.
I told you about that, kid.
What, Trump?
Yeah.
Okay.
So meh, meh, meh, meh, meh is what
I thought was the kicker.
Back to you.
burnt hands.
If I can just say, many, many years
ago, if these kids, these women, would stop
being on TikTok and look at some historical
information, the No Agenda Show had the answer
to their problem years ago.
You got pots, we got a solution.
So, have more kale, have more kale, have
more kale, have more kale, have
more kale, you will obey.
I mean, we solved these problems a long
time ago.
I love that, whoever suggested that in the
troll room was brilliant.
That's good.
Have more kale.
Have more kale.
Oh, yeah, whatever happened to that trend oh,
I went away Went away, so let's play
a couple of these analysis clips.
I have a series of them But I
want to play these the problem is with
these that started with FNC because I was
doing it I can't explain why I'm making
these errors and in titling, but it's the
lack of kale Obviously it starts with FNC
anal Wow, which is the original of the
of the series So and this is from
this is from PBS PBS Brought on day
and the first the first time we get
to hear the head of the DNC that
wimpy guy from, Minnesota Who's the heads the
DNC and so they're gonna go into a
long?
Discussion of the DNC and what they're good
Democrats are gonna do I found it fascinating
Because it's like this guy is clueless.
The Democrats are clueless PBS is clueless.
It's it's hilarious Joining me now to discuss
where the party goes next is Democratic National
Committee chair Ken Martin Ken welcome to the
news hour Thanks for joining us.
Thank you so much for having me I'm
not so Democrats have just started running some
ads this week against dozens of House Republicans
who voted for that Trump budget bill in
your view is that bill right now sort
of the core messaging strategy for Democrats Is
that the strongest argument you've got well absolutely
it's a strong argument because look at what
this bill has done I mean every Republican
in this in the Congress in the US
House and in the Senate voted for this
bill Every Democrat voted against it.
This is no Big this guy runs the
DNC knee and he says that that's a
lie What's nasty voted against it?
Yes?
He did there was I think three and
Collins in the Senate voted She I think
she she got a deal somebody voted against
it Three and three house three house Republicans
voted against it and and one senator or
two yeah Yeah, so that's a lie I
mean every Republican in this in the Congress
in the US House and in the Senate
vote what?
Lying on PBS.
I'm shocked voted for this bill every Democrat
voted against it This is as I call
it the big beautiful betrayal all Republicans every
single one of them put their oath to
Donald Trump ahead by the way Weak is
that all they got big beautiful.
We had big ugly bill big beautiful betrayal
I don't know ma'am, but I see
the the crazy lefties in New York like
well I'm kind of happy with the no
tax on tips even if it's up to
$25,000 I'm okay with that house and
in the Senate voted for this bill every
Democrat voted against it This is as I
call it the big beautiful betrayal all Republicans
every single one of them put their oath
to Donald Trump ahead of the oath to
their Constituents that they were elected by and
as a result of this betrayal this big
beautiful betrayal Yeah, we got a trade seniors
where over a quarter of nursing homes around
this country are going to close They betrayed
children when we think about 4.2 million
children in this country are gonna lose Nutritional
Betrayed the disabled it's all lies.
It's all lies.
It's not true at all.
It's just lies It's amazing when 17 million
Americans are going to be kicked off of
their health insurance.
They betrayed rural Communities with over 300 rural
hospitals likely did he say 17 million now?
Good all get kicked off.
We went from 11 to 12 to 17
be kicked off of there Let me get
the number Distance they betrayed the disabled when
17 million Americans are going to be kicked
off of their health insurance They betrayed rural
communities with over 300 rural hospitals likely to
close now, you know Just to reiterate The
way they come up with that is If
people don't Volunteer go to work.
There will be a million illegal aliens who
will be kicked off.
That's that's for sure So what they're saying
is that means that the hospitals lose revenue
or that's how they arrive with this All
the hospitals will have to close Implying that
somehow the big beautiful betrayal took away money
from hospitals but I don't know why podcasters
have to explain this PBS The podcast broadcast
system communities with over 300 rural hospitals likely
to close now They were betrayed hard-working
Americans 1.75 million construction jobs alone are
gonna be lost because of this bill Because
they're rounding up the illegals Who are doing
the construction jobs will be there.
They just won't be filled by the same
people And at the end of the day
They did all of that to actually help
Those in our communities who already have so
much the billionaires the rich the people who
don't need it Absolutely, this is a gift
It's a gift to the Democratic Party But
it's not a gift to the American people
who are gonna suffer immensely over the next
several years and longer because of this Disastrous
bill, you know, I found if I can
just do a quickie on the the BBB
As an interim It's not an analysis clip,
but well, it is kind of analysis clip
There is something in there that is upsetting
a lot of young men attention sports betters
out there So essentially what what happens currently
and previously now is that if you won?
Let's say you won a hundred dollars on
a bet and then you lost a hundred
dollars on a bet You'd be able to
deduct your losses on your top on your
winnings.
Therefore.
You wouldn't be paying taxes Well, the one
big beautiful bill made a significant change to
gambling it limits puts a cap of 90
% Now on losses, so if you won
$100 and lost $100 you'd still be paying
a tax even though maybe you never felt
like you got any money It's a noteworthy
change in the gambling world.
It's frustrated lawmakers from Las Vegas and Nevada
As you might suspect they're trying to work
to see if they can do a bipartisan
fix before this goes too far down the
line But attention gamblers change on the horizon,
too.
Oh, no.
Oh, no.
I think that's a plus.
I think it's great Prop bets are gonna
be a problem.
They should be discouraging gambling in any way
They can if the government has to get
involved.
Yeah Yes.
All right.
You want to by the way, let's go
to We have a bunch more of these
DNC with this bonehead, but let's go to
the be a BBB analysis I have that
too.
I want to play these since you brought
it you change the topic Let's go to
BBB Analysis PBD, which is actually public brought
you PBS.
Oh for a moment there.
I'm like what Patrick bet David?
Yes No, no, no, not Patrick bet David.
Oh boy Tomorrow will mark one week since
Congress passed the Republicans major budget act President
Donald Trump signed his signature agenda just a
day later on Independence Day But what's in
it and how it will affect Americans day
-to-day lives remains a mystery to most
Congressional correspondent Lisa Desjardins read just about every
word of the nearly 900 page law.
Oh my god.
She can read She's back at our super
screen to help us make sense of it
all.
What's the super screen?
It's a big monitor Oh and just touch
screen she can touch it's not even that
big and she could touch it and move
So by the way, we have a restaurant
Over here for people in the Bay Area
the 99 Ranch restaurant in El Cerrito There's
a 99 Ranch, which is a actually a
shopping center There's a restaurant at near one
of the entrances and this restaurants a Chinese
restaurant.
Obviously, it's a Chinese operation They have a
they have a jumbotron in the restaurant that
is the size of any it's like the
one in the Dallas Cowboys Tube stadium.
It's Unbelievable is from the the ceilings are
10 feet high.
It's from the floor to the ceiling quick
Everybody rush out to El Cerrito and go
Screen doing it a restaurant Also Lisa, I
know you and the team broke out separate
pieces of the legislation before but it is
such a big bill Help us take the
big picture view to start off right and
it's not just a big bill In fact,
it is the largest in terms of dollars
in terms of tax cuts and spending cuts
in US history So it's easy to get
lost in this but I think we've found
some ways to make it more understandable first
Let's look at the main blocks in this
bill There's really six of them tax cuts
money for the border and for defense These
ones are money going out of the federal
government Essentially then bottom you have reforms and
spending cuts health care green energy cuts snap
food program and student loans That's money that
would come in you put all that together
Do the math and you end up with
around four trillion dollars in cost for this
bill that does include interest now Of course,
some of these pieces are bigger than others
So let's look at that with a little
bit more depth Does she mention it's over
ten years or just make it sound like
it's all well She does it in and
out but I want to just I'm playing
these clips because your analysis last show is
as good as she does have a couple
of Extras I never heard before but you
did as good a job in a shorter
period of time.
Yes, I can Even when they they do
this this analysis here.
It's political.
It doesn't fit Well, it's not as bad
as this guy from the Democratic National Party
makes it sound And it's just they can't
make it that bad Imagine this bill is
as 100 dots representing 100% of the
bill money in and out so we can
compare what's happening in this bill Let's look
at those items.
We talked about just a minute ago the
border money and DOD those snap cuts Student
loan cuts and then green energy you can
see that while they will affect millions dollar
and wise They're not a huge part of
the bill Let's add something else the health
care cuts for Medicaid and the Affordable Care
Act a little bit more of the bill
from that But really the giant factor in
this bill are the tax cuts right there
more than 60% of the bill These
three dots are other miscellaneous things.
But really this bill is all about the
tax cuts and she Explains that a lot
of that is continuation of tax cuts that
are already in place.
They're not gonna do that Okay That part
of this is intended to which is dubious
to accelerate and Stimulate growth of I don't
know like some crazy Realistic 7% GDP,
which sounds totally doable.
So Lisa, how should people understand how this
bill affects them?
Individually and precisely right we've talked about income
before on the show But it isn't just
income in this bill literally more than a
hundred different provisions affecting people So we found
a way to get it to some of
the broad contours of who may gain or
lose from this Let's talk about individuals first
right now more taxpayers are individuals and families
You would benefit more as an individual if
you earn over $50,000 because of the
tax cuts largely if you live in a
high-tax state looking at you, New York
You would benefit because there is that state
and local tax deduction in the bill And
if you're a farmer, there are subsidies here
for you And also the estate tax would
be expanded on this bill with a higher
Maximum for that you would lose more as
an individual which by the way is not
mentioned, but that's critical for farmers That's critical
for farmers who want to leave their farm
to their kids.
So the kids can actually afford Yeah, continue
the process of farming the land.
Yeah, you should have called these clips bad
anal I don't know why you didn't do
that.
What a missed opportunity a higher Maximum for
that only free.
It's only been it only benefits you for
humor as an individual if you earn under
$18,000 likely losing benefits potentially you will
if you work in solar or wind That
is an industry that will face some challenges
because of this bill and the cuts if
you're in your 50s and 60s You would
also be affected potentially if you are on
Medicaid or snap because the and the work
requirements will be expanded to people who are
older now One more let's talk about families
a little bit different effects If you're married
and wealthy as a family, you're more likely
to benefit and if you have younger kids
That's because of the child tax deduction.
Also, there's a thousand dollar new trust account
for kids And if you own a family
business, there's a tax cut or tax deduction
in you in there for you That will
be extended.
You know, you sometimes complain about my series,
but holy moly I'm hanging on by a
thread here There's no theory involved here.
She's trying to explain it in a way.
It's not theory series See all the series.
Yeah, this is like eight minutes, but okay,
let's go Bad anal three.
Well after you took over the whole hour
of the show at the beginning I didn't
have anything to I was thinking you were
going for a Pulitzer And I wasn't bitching
and moaning.
I play a couple of anal clips and
you're all been out of shape Which you've
promised me for almost two decades Ball at
the end there with your nutball stuff if
you will you will lose as a family
if you're a single parent and low income
you will not be Exempted from work requirements
in the way that one parent may be
in a married family And if you have
college-age kids because of those student loan
changes There may be fewer student loans and
they may be more expensive.
Yeah, you got to pay him back So
yeah, this is the problem.
They don't like this idea of having to
pay back a loan.
Yeah Insane but you know, you also can
get did she meant you can now get
a Pell grant for vocational studies She did
not mention anything.
That's positive But she did but the negative
side what she's trying to push is not
Negative enough to get anybody all bent out
of shape like this Democrat guy.
Yeah, let's go back to the Democrat analysis
clips Oh you want?
Okay, whatever you want.
So that would be Give me DNC to
as you've seen among some of your own
Democratic base though There are those who say
they want Democrats to be doing more I'll
put to you the latest numbers from our
PBS news and PR Marist poll that showed
some 43% of Democrats your own supporters
Disapprove of the job that Democrats in Congress
are doing right now So why is it
that you think your base is so unhappy
with how Democrats are leading right now?
Well, there's rightfully so there's a lot of
anxiety out there with it what they've seen
from this administration so far is they're going
down in a very aggressive manner to Dismantle
this country what we've seen is they and
if I made it to be clear This
is a disapproval of Democrats in Congress.
Not about the Trump administration.
I Understand that but people are concerned of
what they're seeing right now in this country
and what they want is they they are
anxious They're nervous.
This is unprecedented We've never seen anything like
this and at the end of the day
that anxiety, of course requires everyone to do
their part They want to see not just
Democrats in Congress But Democrats throughout this country
and whether you're in political party leadership, whether
you're a local elected official They want Democrats
to do their part to resist this authoritarian
regime and what they're doing to dismantle this
country So I understand where that anxiety comes
from But let me tell you what the
Democratic Party has been doing we've already hosted
over a hundred and thirty town halls throughout
the country to hold Republicans accountable to Their
disastrous policies that they've been pushing from the
beginning with this administration Not just to hold
them accountable to but to make sure that
we're helping to amplify The stories of all
the pain and anguish that's been inflicted upon
the American people since Donald Trump was inaugurated
No, it's a pain inflicted as horrible as
bad anguish anguish Anguish is this guy in
the real?
I mean is this guy ever leave talking
about leaving the house?
I mean, what is Minnesota must be really
screwed up Yeah, I would say that's probably
true I just found a guy to be
he's not even discussing reality surprised a Democrat
play clip three Democrat on PBS.
No reality.
Hmm But can a lot of the frustration
even at those town halls as you mentioned
that we've seen has been from Democrats who
want to See Democrats do more than just
message and hold conversational spaces They want to
see you doing the kinds of things that
Cory Booker did with a record floor speech
or Hakeem Nobody wants to see that Backs
it up with Padilla's Stunt and confronting the
DHS secretary.
They want to see you get caught trying.
Yeah get caught trying to speak Why not
do more of that do more of that,
please.
We need more video We need hours and
hours of you doing stuff We are doing
that and you just mentioned people are doing
it right and then folks are doing it
all over the country That and that's where
the frustration comes from.
Is that fair?
Look, I think initially when Donald Trump was
inaugurated I do believe the party and many
of our elected officials were caught flat-footed,
but you haven't seen that in recent months
You've seen elected officials You just mentioned it
from Cory Booker to Hakeem Jeffries to our
Democratic Attorney General's who are leading the way
on filing litigation after litigation to take on
this authoritarian regime to our governors and local
elected officials who are using the power of
their offices to actually protect vulnerable communities and
Communities being targeted by this administration and to
our members of Congress who realize that they
may not have power in Congress right now
But they have the power of their voices
and their platforms to really get out there
and speak loudly about what's happening And that's
what's been happening for weeks and months now
and so I get where the anxiety comes
from but it's just not Accurate or true
that the Democratic Party and our elected officials
aren't doing enough I would recommend a new
tactic for the Democrat Party.
I think they should say The Republicans in
the house and the Senate are afraid to
vote anything But what President Trump wants because
he's got the Epstein tapes of them That's
what they should say that's not gonna work
what they should do is better than this
Well, anything would be better than this.
This guy's this guy's no good.
It makes you think that maybe David Hogg
Is a winner who they kicked out of
the fucking operation Didn't mean to do that.
That was not a good use of the
word was uncalled, but they kicked him out
of the Operation because he was Causing a
fuss by saying something a little different.
This guy's no good.
Yeah, David Hogg He was also on the
Epstein tapes everyone that we don't like now
is on the episode David Hogg on the
Epstein tape.
Well, he's on the tapes.
He was he was one of the people
that was being trafficked.
Oh Goodness.
All right, which one do we play now?
The the I've got four we have two
kickers.
What do you want it?
I'm calling Come on What do you take
away from Zoran Mamdani's New York City mayoral
Democratic primary when are there lessons there for
the party or the races Well first it
was a brilliant campaign and there's a lot
of lessons one is he campaigned for something
and this is a critical piece We can't
just be in a perpetual state of resisting
Donald Trump.
Of course, we have to resist Donald Trump
There's no doubt about it for all the
reasons we just talked about but we also
have to give people a sense of what
we're for what the Democratic Party is fighting
for and We would do it.
They put us back in power and that's
really critical And I think that's one of
the lessons from Mamdani's campaign is that he
focused on Affordability, he focused on a message
that was resonant with voters and he campaigned
for something not against You know other people
or against other things he campaigned on a
vision of how he was gonna make New
York City a better place To live I
think that's one of the lessons the other
lessons, of course is the tactics he used
to get his message out both a very
aggressive In-person campaigning meeting voters where they're
at and then also in those digital spaces
using very creative Messaging to cut through the
noise and to get to voters in an
inexpensive but authentic way There's there's a lot
to learn from that campaign and and I'm
excited to learn more resist we much We
must and we will much About that be
committed.
So we had dinner last night with the
New York Zoomer We're here for Tina's birthday.
It's tomorrow and So we said I said,
how about Mamdani fever Says, oh, yeah, everybody
loves him.
I Said it's a do tell Everyone loves
it.
We know that he's only gonna do 25
% But but we don't want that stupid
clubber mayor Adams or or Cuomo Yeah, so
that I think that's right.
That is why they all voted from like
anything said they don't believe 75% of
what mom mom mommy mom Donny is saying
but it was better than no one likes
Eric Adams Because he was ineffective.
We lose our guy the voice of Eric
Adams who we haven't heard much We've already
lost him we lost him.
Yeah, he's over lost him to measles.
I think he's gone Measles, so now we
have two kickers.
Yes this plan What about concerns from some
of your Jewish colleagues in particular about him
not outright condemning the phrase?
Globalized the intifada in a recent interview some
of your Jewish colleagues have said that that
could be very disturbing potentially dangerous Do you
agree with that?
You know There's no candidate in this party
that I agree a hundred percent of the
time with to be honest with you There's
things that I don't agree with Mom, Donnie
that he said but at the end of
the day I always believe as a Democratic
Party chair in Minnesota for the last 14
years and now the chair of the DNC
That you win through addition you win by
bringing people into your coalition.
Well, this is a good question You wait
wait you win by addition.
So let's bring in the Jew haters Into
the party, we're welcome you I don't understand
something if Mossad controls everything in everybody Now,
how can this guy be a front-runner?
Don't they have the goods on him that
don't they have Epstein stuff?
Well, that's all beside the point it kind
of the part the point I was made
Oh, I got your course where I cut
it off is because we welcome everybody except
You hate the Jews, hey, come on in
He doesn't he was very he actually had
a good answer.
He said no, I'm not gonna travel to
Israel I'm gonna stay in New York.
He had a good answer who bond on
me.
Yes No, I'm talking about this guy.
I don't know this guy's a nutjob.
So here's kicker number two We have conservative
Democrats.
We have centrist Democrats We have labor progressives
like me and we have this new brand
of Democrat Which is the leftist and we
win by bringing people into that crew and
at the end of the day Wait, this
is the Democrat Big Tent.
This is amazing They've taken a Republican talking
point there.
We got a big tent.
Come on in.
Yeah, but you know communists commies that coalition
and at The end of the day for
me, that's the type of party.
We're going to lead.
We are a big tent party Yes, it
leads to dissent and debate and there's differences
of opinions on a whole host of issues
But we should celebrate that as a party
and recognize at the end of the day
We're better because of it that is the
chair of the Democratic National Committee Ken Martin
joining us tonight Ken, thank you so much
for your time.
Good to speak with you.
Thank you.
I'm not thank you They're doomed big tent.
I don't know man, because you know maggots
falling apart.
They're all gonna vote Democrat.
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We got Tina's birthday tomorrow, then we're out.
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Speaking of shut up slave this made me
this made me chuckle This made me chuckle
this I'm sure you heard this report tonight
a big change at American Airports The TSA
saying effective immediately all passengers not just those
with pre-check will be able to keep
their shoes on through security Something we haven't
seen in nearly 20 years after that attempted
shoe bombing and in the wake of 9
-11 We anticipate that Americans and travelers and
those coming into our country will be very
excited That they will no longer have to
remove their shoes The so-called shoe bomber
Richard Reid tried to blow up a flight
from Paris to Miami in 2001 The explosives
packed in his shoes failed to detonate and
Reid was tackled by passengers and crew Since
then the TSA has added multiple layers of
security including data on millions of Americans Homeland
Security Secretary Kristi Noem Insists flights will be
just as secure since that policy was put
in place.
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facial recognition and it's here to stay They
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I'm used to with my iPhone.
It's fine Whatever little sign says we delete
it after 24 hours.
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they had the x-ray machines and they
had the naked women go through it I
said they kept deleting and there's turns out
there was an underground people trading colors of
course women Of course, and that's what they
did.
I mean since it's 20 years ago.
We got the naked body scanners we got
the the back scatter scanners and and now
we have The analogic it still kills me
night those those big carry-on scanners that
look like a jet engine You probably haven't
seen yeah, I've seen they've been around forever.
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we have pre-check so I'm completely in
the system and The whole the whole rig
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to be a big problem so That I
think is very sad, oh, we're so excited
and of course if you were sad, too
I liked it back in the days when
you got pulled over his side and kept
Waiting for hours on end every time you
traveled.
I thought that was the good old days
Those were the good old days.
All right Two clips for me about bricks
Of course, this is what most of the
fighting really has been about is about pushing
back Brazil India Russia, China South-africa and
you know added to that possibly Saudi Arabia
Egypt I mean there's just tons of countries
that have poured into this bricks thing and
President Trump made a statement about what this
was really about and why he's not having
it bricks was set up to Degenerate our
dollar and take our dollar as the standard
take it off as the standard And that's
okay if they want to play when he
says the standard I think he means the
reserve currency of the world, but he forgot
what that was.
So it was just a well He also
said the word degenerate Like defrag, I don't
know what's going on And that's okay if
they want to play that game, but I
can play that game, too So anybody that's
in bricks is getting a 10% charge
Pretty soon.
Well, if they're a member of bricks, they're
gonna have to pay 10% tariff Just
for that one thing and they won't be
a member long I thought bricks was you
know, I said this about a year ago
and it largely broke up But you know,
there are a couple that hang around but
I thought it largely broke up Bricks is
not in my opinion not a serious threat
But what they're trying to do is destroy
the dollar So that another country can take
over and be the standard and we're not
going to lose the standard At any time
if you have a smart president, you will
never lose the standard You have a stupid
president like the last one.
You would lose the standard.
You wouldn't you wouldn't have the dollar and
if we lost the the world standard dollar
Yeah, that would be like losing a war
a major world war.
We would not be the same country any
longer We're not gonna let that happen.
The dollar you ever hear the expression dollar
is king.
The dollar is king We're gonna keep it
that way, okay They can but they're gonna
have to pay a big price and I
don't think any of them are willing to
pay that price so I checked in on
the bricks to see how they were doing
to see if If they are still a
threat to the dollar to degenerate the dollar
as the world standard And they just had
a meeting Did you know they just had
a meeting the bricks?
Yeah, isn't this is the meeting that Putin
didn't show up for yeah that he sent
Lavrov instead and And these guys they they're
like begging for money from the IMF.
What kind of bricks is that more demands
for change?
Bricks countries called for reforms of the International
Monetary Fund during their annual summit in Rio
de Janeiro on Monday The block notably wants
a reform of IMF quotas which the IMF
uses to determine how much money member states
can contribute But also how much they can
get in loans Through the vision for IMF
reform we will engage more countries in the
17th general review of IMF quotas Brazil supports
an inclusive quota realignment process with a simple
balanced and transparent calculation formula But global finance
was not the only concern for the group
Brazil's president also called for fairer governance of
artificial intelligence technology In the declaration on artificial
intelligence governance Bricks is sending a clear and
unequivocal message Technologies must operate within a fair
inclusive and equitable governance framework the development of
artificial intelligence Cannot become a privilege of a
few countries Clip well, that's the only one
in the background.
She's whispering into the mic where did this
come from?
Africa news unfortunately Well, I've got Africa news
too, but it wasn't poorly that was terrible.
Well.
I'm so sorry.
That's all like well I mean you can
explain what she said cuz I couldn't hear
her Okay She said that the bricks were
saying we need better terms from the IMF
which is we own that sorry and Then
she said and and we need fair access
to artificial intelligence Okay, yeah Yeah That's that's
what they're complaining about so they're lost they
got nothing if they don't have that and
Lavrov He look he was like slouched in
his chair.
He was like why did I why am
I here?
That's exactly right.
So why is he here?
Yeah, so I think that sounds like this
is a disaster I would say that after
China got the message bricks is whoops whoops
okay?
We're just gonna hold back a little bit.
I'll try again in a few years.
I'm sure But for now yeah, I wasn't
gonna work to begin with well.
They tried.
We should have spotted it as a as
a epic fail hmm Bricks there's Africa news
Hold on African news Trump Trump Had another
big meeting with the Africans And I'd realize
that now he's gonna keep doing these meetings
until you bring enough people in there to
demand He gets a Nobel Peace Prize President
Trump hosting leaders from several African nations at
the White House all of them praising Trump's
efforts to end the war between Rwanda and
The Democratic Republic of the Congo saying it
was necessary to bring peace and open up
trade talks Entities Washington correspondent Jack Bradley has
the details There's great economic potential in Africa
like few other places President Trump hosts leaders
from several African nations at the White House
on Wednesday all looking for a u.s.
Investment Trump says it's a change in strategy
from previous administrations with a new focus on
trade overaid and these are the leaders of
Liberia Senegal Gabon Mauritania and Guinea all claim
to have an abundance of critical and rare
-earth minerals a valuable element in making electronics
You said you had the best equipment the
best military equipment, and that's what we'd like
to have you are welcome to come and
invest Otherwise other countries might come instead of
you we believe in your Policy of making
America great again over the past few years
several African nations have partnered with the Chinese
regime Economically, but in doing so for these
infrastructure projects that they've built these countries have
racked up billions in debt And now Trump
says that he's working on trade deals in
the region.
You know parts of Africa Charge us tremendous
tariffs as you know and they're gonna be
dropping those tariffs.
They've already informed me They're gonna be dropping
this but we treat Africa far better than
China or anybody else anyplace else the message
is so clear We're tired of winning President
Trump the funny thing is is that it's
possible the Chinese have not You know they
tried to be economic hit man, but they
couldn't do the job right But they did
they they did get these guys in debt
There's no doubt about that and Trump's giving
him a way to get out of debt
But the meantime the Chinese have put in
the infrastructure Which is what we need to
get all the minerals and stuff out of
the country because if there's no infrastructure You
can't you know how you do anything mm
-hmm, and I think this is a well
This is timing on this is genius by
Trump.
Well.
This is all West Coast so that's ship
lanes We're gonna just rock the ships up
to them All that stuff Cobalt and all
the good stuff okay part two beautiful last
month the foreign ministers of the Democratic Republic
of the Congo and Rwanda Signed a peace
agreement in Washington moving toward putting an end
to a 30-year war with over 7
million deaths Trump said that the heads of
those countries will soon meet in Washington to
sign the final deal to end the war
You said that this put an end to
a long war that claimed many lives and
Thankfully you were here to put an end
to this 30-year war a Nobel Peace
Prize while I don't see Any problem with
it.
I think that President Trump who deserves it
for all the efforts that he's worked on
and He brought peace back in the SIAC
region that is my region the region where
DRC and Rwanda Signed a deal and so
he is now bringing Peace back into a
region where that was never possible So now
this comes as President Trump announced a new
round of tariffs on several countries on Wednesday
Trump says that the numbers based on each
country's relative trade practices on the u.s
It's a formula based on common sense based
on deficits based on How we've been treated
over the years a Brazil as an example
has been Not good to us not good
at all Brazil was hit with the highest
at 50% That's as Trump claims Brazil's
current president is treating the former president of
Brazil Bolsonaro Unfairly these tariffs take effect on
August 1st Yeah, yeah, and these are probably
these are also Chinese Annexes these countries I
think most of them on the other coast,
but the the thing about this peace prize
Trump is it's in his craw because Obama
got one before he even stepped foot in
office Forgot about that.
That's why he wants it.
Well, that would be a reason to not
want it I think I don't want that
phony baloney peace prize.
Well, that's what he'll say if he never
give it to him No, I wants the
price.
I think they should award it to him
and he should say no not until you
take away Obama's I Don't think that's gonna
happen and he'll say he wants it.
Look at this picture.
I Got some video I want to show
you Meanwhile Russia Ukraine is I got three
clips.
I want to get these out of the
way Well, this is got this has got
to be it then because we're running behind
So you're putting the screws to me bum
letting you have the last clips Okay.
Well, that's good.
I guess there's three of them All right
So we'll start with Russia Ukraine one cranium
officials say Russia launched its largest barrage of
the war so far Sending more than 700
drones overnight Buildings burned through the morning in
the northwestern city of Lutsk a critical hub
where Ukraine receives foreign military aid Officials say
ten other regions were also struck the barrage
comes a day after President Trump criticized Russian
President Vladimir Putin's ongoing aggression and follows a
u-turn by the Trump administration on sending
more military aid to Ukraine meanwhile In Rome
Ukrainian President Vladimir Zelensky met with US Special
Envoy for Ukraine Keith Kellogg and earlier visited
Pope Leo Who again offered to host peace
talks at the Vatican?
Moscow had previously rejected that invitation Yeah, well,
you know what this is This is NATO
versus bricks like okay We got all the
money.
We got everything in we can we can
keep by the way He hasn't sent any
Patriots.
He sent over some shells.
Well, he's gonna send some he says he
says I don't know about that Wait, let's
skip to this one to go to drone
attack Report.
This is Russia.
This is the NTD version of the report
and They got some interesting facts in here
that make me think this whole thing's a
sham.
Oh, this is a nine-minute clip John.
Oh Geez, I must knock down Should I
try the beginning see if that's it?
Oh, yeah See what happens firefighters in Ukraine
are battling flames caused by a massive Russian
attack on Wednesday Russia reportedly again broke its
own record for the largest drone attack on
Ukraine since the start of the war Ukrainian
officials say Wednesday's attack involved over 720 drones
that's an increase of nearly 200 drones compared
to the previous record The attack was mostly
repelled but was intense enough to cause neighboring
Poland to begin scrambling its military aircraft No
major damage or casualties have been reported.
Stop it That was the clip.
Okay, good perfect 750 drones nobody got killed
Well, that's kind of odd That seems like
nobody got 750 drones all coming over and
nobody got killed.
There's nobody left Well, I mean there may
be that issue but come on That sounds
like a phony baloney deal if you ask
me well you heard him talk about Putin
you have that clip Well, the clip that
I have is the second part of the
PBS clip which maybe mentions that Separately Europe's
top Human Rights Court found that Russia committed
widespread violations of international law in Ukraine Dating
back more than a decade that includes its
role in the downing of Malaysia Airlines flight
17 Hold Ukraine in 2014 298 people were
killed in that crash the court also found
Russia responsible in cases of murder torture and
sexual violence against Ukrainian civilians as well as
the kidnappings of Ukrainian children The Kremlin brushed
off the court's ruling saying it has quote
no intention to abide by it.
Oh, yeah No, I have the although unfortunately,
I only have the censored version because God
forbid you say this word We're not happy
with food.
I'm not happy with food I can tell
you that much right now because he's killing
a lot of people and a lot of
them are his soldiers His soldiers and their
soldiers mostly and it's now up to 7
,000 a week and I'm not happy with
Putin We get a lot of vote thrown
at us by Putin for you want to
know the truth?
It's very nice all the time, but it
turns out to be meaningless Senators passing
and passed us that verse very tough sanctions.
Oh, yeah, I'm looking at it's an optional
bill It's totally at my option to pass
it totally at my option and to terminate
totally at my option And I'm looking at
it very strongly But he makes it sound
like there's some special kind of bill That
is his option No, there is a bill
that's getting passed and this is option to
sign it through the Senate.
It's not in the house yet I mean,
there's a little way I'm telling you when
I heard the 750 drones and nobody got
injured It sounds a little weak this whole
thing sounds like some sort of phony baloney
deal I think it's gonna be resolved after
they have the ceasefire.
Yes, Hamas the Hamas.
Yeah.
Yeah, I think you're right You and you
and it will be an armistice It will
not be there will not be a truce
or anything like that It'll be like North
Korea.
You got to keep that in there to
keep the NATO.
I like that idea armistice so I would
do with the DMZ and demilitarized zone, which
I've been saying for years and Did you
know NATO no, of course not did you
hear the that's the so-called Leaked footage
of the president saying I told him I'm
gonna bomb Moscow.
I'll bomb everybody here It's it's unusable for
the show No, I did not.
Oh, yeah, apparently it's it's real He was
out.
He's saying I told him I bomb Moscow
if you didn't quit it out Yeah, baby
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Fumble around I'm gonna see if I can
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thing Trust anyone Bad
guys, bad guys, bad, bad, bad guys Are
you still talking about Jeffrey?
Ever seen Jeffrey?
Ever seen Jeffrey?
Bad guys I'm sitting on my desk right
now, it's a great deal Don't, don't, don't,
don't, don't, don't trust anyone Me, me, me,
me Bad guys Are you still talking about
Jeffrey?
Ever seen Jeffrey?
Ever seen Jeffrey?
Bad guys A lot of flight logs, a
lot of names, a lot, a lot of
information It's not there The Trump administration is
pushing back against calls to Fire Attorney General
Pam Bondi over her handling of the Jeffrey
Epstein files Are you still talking about Jeffrey
Epstein?
It's strange to me too The accused sex
trafficker did not keep a secret client list
It's easy to sum it up Say it
once again, say it once again, again Are
people still talking about this guy, this creep?
We ain't here talking about practice It's sitting
on my desk right now to review Listen,
we talking about practice I can't believe you're
asking a question I've never seen What are
we talking about?
Practice Bondi saying that is a technical glitch
that happens every night I know I'm supposed
to leave by exams Oh here's Trump and
his brother's keeper Are you still talking about
Jeffrey Epstein?
It's funny to me too Earlier this year
she said she had Epstein's list in her
office Not again, not again And I've struck
down a Bondi with great vengeance and furious
anger It's strange to me too So you
guys ready?
I need to know that you're ready Um,
let's talk about war for a second I
need to know that you're ready for war
War What is war?
Nothing, say it again War What is war?
Nothing Why should they go out to fight?
But hey, we're gonna do a ceasefire You
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and they're ready for the war to end
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