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July 20th • 3h 24m

1783: Dadgum

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Look what you got there.
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I see what you're doing.
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Adam Curry, John C.
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Dvorak.
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It's Sunday, July 20th, 2025.
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This is your award-winning Keep On Asian
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Media assassination episode 1783.
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This is no agenda.
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Posing for the Kiss Cam and broadcasting live
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from the heart of the Texas Hill Country
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here in FEMA region number 6.
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In the morning, everybody, I'm Adam Curry.
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And from Northern Silicon Valley, we're trying to
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bring back the term daddy-o.
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I'm John C.
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Dvorak.
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It's Crackpot and Buzzkill.
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In the morning.
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I was going to try and slip it
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in during the show, but now you've given
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it away.
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I thought it was a good idea.
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Bring back daddy-o.
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Hey, daddy-o.
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Daddy-o.
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Because it's a vibe, man.
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It's a vibe.
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Oh, so we got a note from some
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guy explaining vibe.
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Well, it's a vibe.
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Not just vibe.
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It's a vibe.
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You got to say it right.
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It's a vibe.
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I'm not saying it at all.
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It's interesting, I guess.
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I don't think it has legs.
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Oh, what do you mean?
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This is all over the place.
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It's already, it's in.
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I've never heard it except on the show.
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Well, I don't expect people to say it
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at Costco.
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Hey, man, that wine, it's a vibe.
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It's a vibe, man.
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That wine's a vibe.
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They don't say it at the Chevron station.
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Well, hey, how was your meet-up?
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You had the get John out of the
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house meet-up.
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It wasn't as good as it usually is,
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but it was okay.
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They're generous, at least this group.
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I have the meet-up stuff that I'll
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read during the donation segment.
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So they were generous, but it wasn't good?
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No, they were generous, but the numbers were
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like 20 people, maybe.
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Oh, well, my meet-up was exactly six,
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including me.
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How many?
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Six.
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Okay, well, this brings us to a point
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of discussion then.
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Well, okay, but remind me to tell you
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about the meet-up because it was a
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special kind of meet-up.
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So go ahead with your point of discussion.
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A special kind of meet-up, but was
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it some sort of cabal, gay cabal thing
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or something like that?
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Yeah, John, that's exactly right.
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That makes so much sense.
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A gay cabal in Fredericksburg, Texas.
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Yeah, that's what's going on.
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It could be.
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No, this was organized by Evert Bopp.
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Oh, this is your Dutch guy.
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This is the Dutch cabal.
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Yes, but you know what this Dutch cabal
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is?
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So Evert, who— Spooks.
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No.
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He has a nonprofit called Disaster Tech Lab,
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DisasterTechLab.org, and he goes all over the
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world.
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Whenever there's a disaster, he brings in Wi
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-Fi networks.
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So he brings in—he has all this donated
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gear.
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And so, of course, he was here for
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the floods in Kerr County, and he was
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in Hunt and Centerpoint.
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Then he sets up these huge mesh networks
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so people can communicate.
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That's cool.
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It's very cool.
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And he's been doing it for 15 years.
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He said, well, it's the first time I've
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been here.
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And since I was just down the road,
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I figured I might as well do a
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meet-up.
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And Texas Slim came.
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Texas Slim, he was taking $10,000 worth
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of ground beef down to the Mercy Chefs
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to feed all of the volunteers and first
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responders.
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And let's see, we had Richard from Austin.
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He's a coder.
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He came up.
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And, of course, we had Willie, Willie, my
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chess partner.
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He showed up as well.
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So Mimi has a friend that's something like
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this, a woman who goes to disaster zones,
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and she's a specialist.
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She has a kind of a—I guess a
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horde or a group of cadaver dogs.
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Oh, and boy, we need them.
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They only had one dog, which was not
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enough.
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Yeah, this woman, she should have known about
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this, that idea, because she'd be down there.
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She has these cadaver dogs, and I guess
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they're like three German shepherds or whatever dog
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it is, and they're just experts at this.
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Yeah, well, Afert was telling us some of
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the horror stories, which I won't repeat, of
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what people were finding.
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It was not great.
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Yeah, it was gross.
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Yeah, very gross.
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But it was a nice meetup.
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And so I said, so who funds this?
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He said, well, we have individual donors.
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We have some government support, but not very
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much.
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He gets all of his gear donated except
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for one company.
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So all the Wi-Fi, and he leaves
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it behind.
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So it's donated.
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He leaves it behind.
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He gets new gear.
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Guess which company doesn't donate and charges full
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retail price for everything he does?
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Starlink.
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Yes, exactly.
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He says, hey, can I get a discount?
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No.
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Best price.
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You pay now.
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Starlink.
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Starlink.
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No deals for the nonprofit.
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The guy going down there in the disaster
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area.
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And then he said, you know, I think
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Starlink's taking a beating on the technology anyway.
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They can't afford to give it away.
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I'm sure they are.
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And he said, you know, and I said,
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so what's it like on the ground?
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He said, oh, the government people, they're just
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in the way.
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They suck.
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And he was, you know, he says in
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Texas.
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Well, that's a shocker.
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Yeah, I know.
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He says, you guys in Texas are well
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organized.
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And he even told the story about how
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he was invited to go to the White
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House.
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He said, so I walk in, and it's
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basically a huge Zoom call with all of
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the regional FEMA managers.
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And they're all, and they're listening to his
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story.
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And they go like, yeah, yeah, we really
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want to hear how we can innovate.
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What can we do to innovate?
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He's like, well, why don't you deploy the
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stuff that works today?
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The stuff that I'm doing, do that.
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And of course, the government bozos, I don't
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want to say they're all bozos.
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None of them are here.
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Well, no, they want to buy stuff.
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Oh, you've got to innovate.
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We've got to do something.
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We've got to budget.
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We've got to spend some money.
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No, you've got to spend the taxpayers' money.
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You've got to spend the money.
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Yeah.
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He says it was really disappointing.
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He's been all over.
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Very interesting guy.
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So anyway, that was just a fun meetup.
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Now, you wanted to discuss meetups briefly?
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Yeah, Mimi's noticing that there's been a fall
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off in the number of meetups that people
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are happening.
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And it made it that the Albany meetup
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was interesting because Steve had talked, I talked
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to Steve.
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Who's the reason?
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Rickalston Crazy Steve.
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Rickalston Steve.
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And he said there's a bunch of RSVPs
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that didn't show up.
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There's a couple of people I expected to
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see.
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They didn't show up.
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It was gloomy, though.
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I mean, we have a Bay Area July.
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It was gloomy.
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It's cold.
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It was gloomy.
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And gloomy.
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But Mimi's noticing that the huge drop off
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in meetups.
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Interesting.
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The next one's on the 25th that she,
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I think, documents coming up.
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But is she saying this is across the
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board meetups?
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Yes, yes.
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Interesting.
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It's like worldwide phenomenon.
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Oh, it's a global thing.
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Oh, no.
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And I'm thinking that this is, you know,
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there's a mood.
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Oh, no.
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It's a mood.
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OK.
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Yes.
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There's a mood.
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But it's a worldwide depression.
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I'm blaming Trump.
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Oh, do tell.
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Well, I don't know why I'm blaming him.
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But why not?
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As good a guy as any to blame
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for.
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Stop it.
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I mean, you blame the president is the
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guy who sets some sort of a standard
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and whatever.
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And I'm not blaming him the way the
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Midas touch might.
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But for everything, you know, if the guy
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has a bad bowel movement, he blames Trump.
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I mean, that's a terrible podcast.
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It's a great podcast.
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But it's noticeable.
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Yeah.
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Interesting.
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And that's why your number doesn't surprise me
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at all.
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I don't care.
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You're there.
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There's enough.
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You have enough locals.
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Hold on.
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Hold on.
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Parker came.
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Parker.
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He's local.
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Parker.
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No, that number should have been 40.
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No.
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We only had like two show advance warning.
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So, you know, it takes a lot of.
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It takes a lot of promotion to get
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people to come out.
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And Richard was a first timer.
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Relating this to my experience, the lack of
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the people at RCP.
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Steve, I don't even know why you bothered
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doing that at the Mallard.
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But he did that anyway.
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And they didn't show up.
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And the people that I expect to see
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didn't show up.
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And Mimi's noticeable.
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She notices a worldwide basis.
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Well, there's a couple of things that are
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happening.
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One is, you know, meetups used to be
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very sparse.
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And then it would be like, oh, okay.
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There's a meetup.
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I'm going to go.
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Because it would be once every six months
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or something.
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Now people are doing them often.
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So they're repeats.
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And, you know, people have other things to
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do.
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You're going to think what you're going to
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go toward is meetup burnout.
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Meetup fatigue.
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Meetup fatigue.
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I like burnout better.
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Okay.
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So that could be part of it.
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Also, there's, you know, what is permeating throughout
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all of culture right now is these meetups,
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they all put together chat groups.
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Okay.
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So they have chat groups.
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They have telegram channels.
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And they're all doing all their thing there.
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And so they really have nothing to discuss
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when they show up in person.
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And they're a little bit wary because now
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they know all of these, how these people
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really think.
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Because, of course, what is the number one
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topic on every single no agenda group?
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But Epstein.
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Yeah, of course.
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Mossad, blackmail.
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Yeah.
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Jews.
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I mean.
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Jews.
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Yeah.
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So I think people are also just like,
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I don't feel like talking about this stuff
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anymore.
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Well, I think that's a rationalization.
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And I'll tell you why I say that.
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It's a good rationalization.
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I think it's, you know, reasonable.
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It reminds me of stock market analysis.
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You know, this market goes up for this
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reason.
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The market goes down for the same reason.
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How does that make sense?
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Somebody sent me a video today of this
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red light district, a long film from this
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month.
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The red light district in Thailand.
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A walkthrough.
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Well, wait a minute.
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Where in Thailand?
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It's a rather big place.
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I've been to a couple.
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The red light district.
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It's got a name.
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I can look it up.
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Patpong?
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Patpong?
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No, it's not that.
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I don't know what it is.
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Because they have them all over the place.
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No, but the big one.
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Patpong.
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You can look it up.
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It's Patpong.
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It's Pattaya.
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Oh, Pattaya.
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Whatever.
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Pattaya is a tourist destination.
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Yeah, and it's a red light district.
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Oh, okay.
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And it's a tourist destination.
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You're right.
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It's notorious.
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You can just Google it.
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P-A-T-T-A-Y-A.
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So this guy took a video and he's
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walking through the area.
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There's, I'd say, thousands of hookers and hundreds
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and hundreds of nightclubs.
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I've seen areas like this around the world.
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And it's just like loaded with nightclubs and
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hookers.
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Nobody.
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Oh, it's empty?
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Nobody's there.
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And he's walking.
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This guy is some British guy.
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And he's walking through the area.
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It takes a long film.
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It's like, I got it up here.
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It's 30 minutes walking around.
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And there's a few motorcycles go by or
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motor scooters.
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Now, are these the girls that have the
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number badges on?
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They have all kinds of different.
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Some of them have signs.
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There's thousands of them.
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But the point is, the point I'm making
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here is not about the girls or how
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they sell themselves, but it's the fact that
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the place was empty.
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So hooker meetups are also down.
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So I'm thinking that there's a downturn.
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There's always these discussions about people aren't coupling
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up anymore.
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Oh, no, no, you nailed it.
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You nailed it.
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Everybody's sitting at home talking to their chat
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bot.
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They don't have anything left to say.
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They've already told Chad GPT about it and
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Annie.
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They're all talked out.
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It's a possibility.
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Yeah.
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But it's a worldwide phenomenon.
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So it's happening on our meetups where this
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is not good.
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Well, it's not like we can do anything
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about it.
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We can bitch and moan.
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That's what we do.
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It doesn't help.
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Also, people.
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It makes me feel better.
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People are afraid to go.
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You go to a Coldplay concert and all
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of a sudden you're on the kiss cam
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and you're divorced.
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The best story of the week.
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That was really interesting because that dominated social
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media with memes.
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Well, there's a good reason for it because
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it pointed out the hypocrisy of the HR
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departments.
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The lack of, you know, you can't mingle
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in the office, even though some people think
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it's a good idea.
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But it's against the rules and the basic
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hypocrisy.
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And then the embarrassment, which would like a
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lot of almost everybody says the same thing.
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There was a Coldplay concert.
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If they hadn't freaked out, which is embarrassing
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enough to go to.
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But if they hadn't freaked out.
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Yeah.
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The girl, by the way, is the one
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who panicked immediately.
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And then he the guy ditched himself.
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Did you see that some baseball games had
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a Coldplay cam and then they focus?
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No, I didn't.
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They focus in on people and then they'd
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immediately dive down and hide.
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You know, even the players, they were on
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the Coldplay cam.
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They ran back into the dugout.
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Oh, that's funny.
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It was good.
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I think it's also, you know, we live
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in such a broken world where everybody either
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knows what it's like to get caught cheating,
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is currently cheating or has thought about cheating.
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I think it was very relatable.
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Well, it was pretty funny.
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And then to be caught cheating with your
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HR lady at a Coldplay concert is like
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a triple threat.
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It's the worst thing you can imagine.
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You can't beat it.
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It can't get much worse.
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It really was, really was.
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Well, then we have the story that everybody
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in M5M, remember, we are a media deconstruction
14:51
podcast.
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We have to talk about this because they
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were losing their ever loving minds over it.
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And everybody, of course, related it immediately to
15:00
the president due to a number of confluences
15:04
and things happening with media.
15:06
And this is the cancellation of The Colbert
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Show.
15:11
Breaking news, CBS is canceling The Late Show
15:14
with Stephen Colbert.
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Colbert just making the shocking announcement at his
15:18
show taping.
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Shocking.
15:19
Now, it's unclear why the show is canceled,
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but it comes after Colbert spoke out.
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I just got to listen to it because
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that's the whole point of playing these clips
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at all.
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His parent company, Paramount's $16 million settlement with
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Trump over the editing of a 60 Minutes
15:35
interview.
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In fact, here's what Colbert said just a
15:39
few days ago.
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Now, I believe this kind of complicated financial
15:44
settlement with a sitting government official has a
15:46
technical name in legal circles.
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It's big fat bribe because this all comes
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as Paramount's owners are trying to get the
15:54
Trump administration to approve the sale of our
15:56
network to a new owner, Skydance.
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So, they bring on their own media deconstructionist,
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the one and only Brian Seltzer-Water to
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discuss what's really going on.
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And now, hearing that that show is canceled,
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Brian Stelter's out front.
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I love the cadence.
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And now, hearing that that show is canceled.
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Oh, no, it's canceled.
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And now, hearing that that show is canceled,
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Brian Stelter's out front.
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I mean, Brian, what more are you lying
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about what is frankly a stunning announcement?
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What?
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She said, I mean, Brian.
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Oh, she did that too.
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This is a new thing.
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Well, when they really don't.
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I think you say, I mean, Brian.
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I mean, I mean, like, come on.
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It's like, I mean, like, this is no
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good.
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Brian Stelter's out front.
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I mean, Brian, what more are you learning
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about what is frankly a stunning announcement?
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When we were talking about it, just found
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out about it here.
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I said, wait, what?
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What?
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What just happened?
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It really doesn't make any sense from the
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normal business logic of television goes like this.
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Stephen Colbert is the highest rated program in
17:03
late night television.
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He beats his competitors.
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He's been going at it for 10 years.
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And frankly, he's been on a hot streak
17:09
lately.
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So by the business logic of television, normally
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he would be in a very safe spot.
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However, CBS says this is a financial decision
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given the difficulties with the entire late night
17:21
sector.
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And there is some truth to that explanation.
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I reported a couple of years ago about
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the late, late show ending with James Corden
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because it wasn't profitable anymore.
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So there there might be some some rationale
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to this CBS announcement.
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But almost everybody upon hearing about this is
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connecting it to the paramount settlement from everybody.
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Because, as you said, it was just two
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weeks ago that President Trump struck a deal
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with the parent of CBS, that $60 million
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settlement.
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Of course, Trump later said that there were
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other terms on top of the 16 million.
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He referenced getting public service announcements from CBS,
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for example.
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And all this comes as one owner of
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CBS, Sherry Redstone, is about to hand off
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to a new owner, David Elliston.
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Excuse me, David Ellison and his company Skydance
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Media.
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There have been speculation raging online for the
18:09
last two weeks about whether Skydance was going
18:11
to try to push Colbert out.
18:13
In fact, this had been such a hot
18:15
topic that Colbert came back from vacation on
18:17
Monday and he made jokes about it.
18:18
He said he had a new mustache and
18:20
so the new owners wouldn't be able to
18:21
find him.
18:22
So on Monday, Colbert was joking about possibly
18:25
being in danger.
18:26
On Wednesday, he found out his show was
18:28
being canceled.
18:28
Today, he announced it.
18:30
And this all takes effect next May.
18:32
And so he does have one more season.
18:34
But this means one of the staunchest Trump
18:36
critics on television will be leaving.
18:39
And, you know, you did the exact same
18:41
thing that I did.
18:44
First of all, we heard 2.1 million
18:48
people watching, 200 people on staff.
18:53
And I don't think those are shared resources.
18:56
You know, you got the studio and everything.
18:57
It's every single day.
18:59
And, you know, I did the same thing.
19:01
I'm like, what's in the demo?
19:03
And the demo is, it was like, I
19:05
think you had 200,000 in the newsletter.
19:07
I think I came up with 231,000.
19:10
I mean, we have more people in the
19:13
demo on this podcast.
19:16
Yeah.
19:16
And we're losing.
19:18
Corey, this is, I thought I wrote up
19:21
a fairly good analysis in the newsletter.
19:23
People should be a subscriber.
19:24
I don't get it that they don't.
19:27
But the mention is they lost, they've been
19:30
losing $40 million a year.
19:34
Yeah.
19:34
On this show.
19:35
There's your issue right there.
19:37
And there's your issue.
19:38
And the numbers suck.
19:40
If he gets 2 million viewers, Gutfeld gets
19:43
at least three.
19:45
And he only has 60 million households and
19:48
they have 300 million households.
19:50
It doesn't make any sense.
19:52
Gutfeld's got 30 people.
19:53
He's got 200.
19:54
Even that's too much, 30 people.
19:57
Probably.
19:58
For that show.
19:59
Someone to polish his shoes.
20:01
I mean, what do you do with 200
20:02
people?
20:03
I have no idea what you do with
20:04
200 people.
20:05
And then it all traces back to Johnny
20:08
Carson.
20:09
I have his numbers.
20:10
He typically was doing 17 million a show,
20:14
up to 45 million a show, as opposed
20:17
to 2 million.
20:19
It's untenable.
20:21
It's stupid.
20:22
And they're making a big fuss.
20:23
By the way, I do have Colbert's total.
20:26
Yeah, we have that.
20:27
We got that.
20:28
The whole thing?
20:29
Yeah.
20:29
Yeah, I have the whole thing.
20:30
I clipped it way down because there was
20:33
too much hootin' and aside.
20:36
I took the asides out and I took
20:37
the hoots out.
20:38
Okay, can I just say one thing?
20:41
You can say whatever you want.
20:43
Say two things.
20:44
I'll just say one thing, if that's okay.
20:48
Late Night lost their entire audience during the
20:52
writer's strike.
20:54
Everybody got on TikTok at night.
20:56
It was the height of TikTok.
20:58
And they never came back.
20:59
And why would they?
21:01
It's much more entertaining than to hear him
21:03
just gripe and moan and watch the two
21:08
segments with a film clip.
21:10
The format is old.
21:12
It's beat.
21:13
As I point out in the essay, the
21:17
format was started by Steve Allen in 1954
21:20
and has not changed since.
21:22
That's 70 years of the same old, same
21:26
old.
21:26
No wonder it's dead.
21:27
Yeah, and it's all pre-interview questions.
21:31
So, hey, you had a funny thing happen
21:33
to you this week.
21:34
Tell me about that.
21:36
The pre-interview questions ruined the show.
21:39
Yes, which is exactly why Adam and John
21:41
do not talk to each other outside of
21:43
the show.
21:44
Yeah, and we wouldn't anyway.
21:46
No, for obvious reasons.
21:48
All right, I'll play the whole opening thing
21:50
then.
21:50
This is Colbert's.
21:53
I think it was Monday he opened with
21:55
this bitching about this.
21:58
And I want to point out one other
21:59
thing.
22:00
This idea that this was the $60 million
22:04
deal where they caved to Trump's lawsuit was
22:09
part of to get Sherry Redstone, her, you
22:12
know, her Skydance.
22:15
They had to do this to get the
22:17
Skydance thing to go through because the administration
22:19
would squash it otherwise.
22:21
The administration, the Trump administration, was never going
22:24
to quash this.
22:26
This was Larry Ellison's son that runs Skydance.
22:30
Larry Ellison's a huge Trump supporter.
22:33
If he wants to do a merger with
22:35
Paramount, the Trump administration is not going to
22:38
stop it whether Colbert's there or not.
22:41
Yeah, and I'll give him this, though.
22:45
If you're polishing up the product to sell
22:48
it, you probably want to get rid of
22:51
the $40 million a year loss.
22:54
Loser, yeah.
22:55
It's like, hey, we'll take care of Colbert.
22:57
We'll get rid of all the other losing
22:59
things.
23:00
We'll take care of you.
23:01
That's what you do.
23:02
Here's the opening monologue polished up.
23:05
My parent corporation, Paramount, paid Donald Trump a
23:08
$16 million settlement over his 60 Minutes lawsuit.
23:13
As someone who has always been a proud
23:15
employee of this network, I'm offended.
23:17
And I don't know if anything will ever
23:19
repair my trust in this company.
23:21
But just taking a stab at it, I'd
23:23
say $16 million would help.
23:24
This settlement is for a nuisance lawsuit Trump
23:27
filed claiming that 60 Minutes deceptively edited their
23:30
interview with then-candidate Kamala Harris last fall.
23:32
Paramount knows they could have easily fought it
23:35
because, in their own words, the lawsuit was
23:37
completely without merit.
23:39
Unlike the payoffs from ABC and Twitter, Paramount's
23:43
settlement did not include an apology.
23:46
Instead, that's good.
23:47
Instead, the corporation released a statement where they
23:49
said, you may take our money, but you
23:52
will never take our dignity.
23:53
You may, however, purchase our dignity for the
23:55
low, low price of $16 million.
23:58
We need the cash.
23:59
Now, I believe this kind of complicated financial
24:02
settlement with a sitting government official has a
24:04
technical name in legal circles.
24:06
It's Big Fat Bribe.
24:07
Because this all comes as Paramount's owners are
24:11
trying to get the Trump administration to approve
24:13
the sale of our network to a new
24:15
owner, Skydance.
24:16
And some of the TV typers out there
24:18
are blogging that once Skydance gets CBS, the
24:21
new owner's desire to please Trump could put
24:24
pressure on late night host and frequent Trump
24:26
critic, Stephen Colbert.
24:31
I guarantee you he already knew it was
24:33
happening when he did that.
24:35
He already knew 90 percent certainty that his
24:38
show was good, that the late night show,
24:40
the franchise was going to go away.
24:43
He had nothing to lose.
24:47
Well, maybe not.
24:49
But like somebody pointed out in one of
24:52
the other shows is that if you're me,
24:54
you can say whatever you want about the
24:57
networks, because Letterman used to go after NBC
25:03
and Carson always.
25:04
All the time.
25:05
As long as you're me, if you're making
25:07
tons of money.
25:08
Who cares?
25:09
Say whatever you want.
25:09
Who cares?
25:11
But if you're losing 40 million.
25:13
That's a problem.
25:14
So then we get the out.
25:17
I actually had one of the.
25:19
Oh, by the way, the other number was
25:21
it's 100 million dollars a year to produce
25:24
that show.
25:25
That's a lot of money.
25:27
We.
25:28
So there was a conversation with the podcasting
25:32
2.0 group.
25:33
That group, we only discuss podcasting stuff.
25:40
And in fact, I discourage it and remind
25:42
people like, you know, can you take your
25:45
your political stuff somewhere else?
25:46
Because the political opinions vary widely and we
25:50
get along pretty well.
25:51
But then.
25:52
So one guy, he says.
25:55
He said, you know, he posted the post,
25:58
the notice of.
25:59
Oh, this is this is insane.
26:00
It's like Colbert.
26:01
Trump critic Colbert show getting canceled.
26:05
And then.
26:06
So the follow up is odd.
26:08
Jon Stewart, another critic of rapist felon Trump.
26:11
Will they silence?
26:12
Will they silence Kimmel next?
26:14
And so I pop in.
26:15
I said, hey, look, look, 200 people.
26:18
2.1 million viewers do the math.
26:22
And then it comes back.
26:24
And then it's like, why are you defending
26:27
rapist pedophile Trump?
26:30
I'm like, you know what?
26:31
I'm out.
26:31
Why don't you hit me up on the
26:32
blue sky, bro?
26:33
And I'll talk to you over there.
26:35
It's just it's like, what is wrong with
26:38
you?
26:38
Don't you understand basic numbers?
26:40
And here's Chris Murphy, Democrat representative from Connecticut,
26:45
on his very important Instagram.
26:47
So I want to tell you why the
26:49
cancellation of Stephen Colbert show matters so much.
26:52
We are on the precipice of entering a
26:55
censorship state in which Donald Trump is using
26:58
the powers of the federal government in order
27:01
to erase criticism from the airwaves.
27:05
What's happening at CBS right now is bone
27:08
chilling.
27:10
Paramount is trying to get a merger approved,
27:14
and they need that merger to be approved
27:15
by the Trump administration.
27:18
And so in a variety of different ways,
27:20
Paramount is providing monetary and political favors to
27:26
Donald Trump.
27:26
First, they settled a totally bogus lawsuit that
27:29
they would have won in a walk in
27:31
court that was filed against them by Trump.
27:33
They essentially just paid him 16 million dollars
27:36
personally.
27:38
Paramount went to 60 Minutes, their flagship news
27:41
program, and told them to stop criticizing Donald
27:44
Trump so much.
27:45
Why?
27:45
Because they need this merger.
27:46
That's not what they said from what I
27:48
heard.
27:49
And then finally, they have now canceled Stephen
27:51
Colbert's show, knowing that Stephen Colbert was a
27:55
nightly thorn in the side of Donald Trump.
27:57
This is all clearly designed to get their
28:01
merger approved so that their millionaire and billionaire
28:04
owners and investors who are already filthy rich
28:07
can become even more filthy rich.
28:09
Oh, blame it on the rich.
28:10
This is what happens when these massive corporations
28:14
control the flow of information.
28:16
At the same time that you have an
28:19
administration that is shameless about using the official
28:23
powers given to them by the Constitution and
28:26
by statute in order to compel political loyalty
28:30
from the owners of those media companies.
28:33
This is a really, really dangerous moment.
28:36
Stephen Colbert didn't get thrown off the air
28:38
because he wasn't doing well.
28:40
He was the highest rated show on TV
28:42
in late night.
28:44
He was canceled very likely because Paramount and
28:49
its owners are trying to get rich off
28:51
of this merger.
28:52
And Donald Trump has made it clear to
28:54
them and everybody else in the media space
28:56
that if you want any favors from me,
28:58
then you have to silence my critics on
29:01
your platforms.
29:02
So this is what I love so much
29:04
about it because it folds into the whole
29:07
PBS and PR defunding.
29:09
Is here's a guy who probably gets more
29:12
traction from this one post, including 800000 plus
29:16
people hearing on the no agenda show.
29:18
It was like, well, they're controlling the flow
29:21
of information, man.
29:23
Oh, really?
29:25
It's like, no, I think CBS was pretty
29:27
smart to do this now because it came
29:29
at the right moment where, you know, Trump,
29:32
man, he wants to shut down in the
29:34
flow of information to NPR and PBS.
29:37
Relations between Donald Trump and the press have
29:41
been tense since he first became president.
29:44
I'm not going to give you a question.
29:46
You are fake news.
29:48
In mandate number two, the U.S. President
29:50
has multiplied lawsuits against news organizations criticizing their
29:56
coverage.
29:56
In the latest case, he's opposing Rupert Murdoch
30:00
and The Wall Street Journal for publishing a
30:03
story about his friendship with child sex offender
30:06
and alleged sex trafficker of underage girls, Jeffrey
30:11
Epstein.
30:11
Trump says the story is fake and deliberately
30:14
damaging.
30:16
Publisher is standing by it, refusing to give
30:19
in to pressure.
30:21
In some of the previous cases, news companies
30:24
chose to settle like ABC and Paramount, who
30:28
own CBS media watchdog Reporters Without Borders, says
30:33
the U.S. President has a clear strategy
30:35
to weaken the press similar to ones used
30:39
in other countries.
30:40
This includes the defunding of public media, smearing
30:44
journalists and taking measures against reporters who use
30:48
words he does not approve of.
30:50
U.S. news agency AP has been banned
30:53
from White House briefings since they refused to
30:56
change the name of the Gulf of Mexico.
30:59
At a time where we've never had more
31:02
media in the in all of human civilization,
31:05
where everybody has a podcast, everybody's on TikTok,
31:09
everybody's on Instagram, where the president is being
31:13
is being dragged by his own fans of
31:17
MAGA.
31:19
He's not controlling any flow of information.
31:21
You dopes.
31:23
But, oh, of course, NPR defunding.
31:26
What will we do in an emergency in
31:28
Republican states?
31:30
Public radio and television stations will start to
31:32
lose some of their funding in October after
31:35
Congress approved a rare rescissions package requested by
31:38
President Donald Trump that claws back one point
31:41
one billion dollars previously allocated for public media.
31:44
That sum is all of the federal funding
31:47
the Corporation for Public Broadcasting was set to
31:49
receive over the next two years.
31:52
That money is supposed to help fund fifteen
31:54
hundred locally owned and operated stations in addition
31:57
to NPR and PBS.
31:59
But experts who study the local news landscape
32:02
caution the move could have dire effects.
32:04
Franklin runs the local news initiative at the
32:07
Medill School of Journalism at Northwestern University.
32:10
He says somewhere between 40 and 80 local
32:13
public radio stations could be forced to shut
32:15
down across the country, leaving the communities they
32:18
serve with limited access to critical information.
32:21
We are not going to waver in our
32:23
mission, which is to deliver independent local journalism
32:27
that we think is really important for our
32:29
democracy.
32:29
Democracy is more insulated from the cuts than
32:32
rural stations.
32:33
It'll lose six percent of its funding and
32:36
it's stepping up membership drives, hoping it won't
32:38
have to limit community events to make up
32:40
the difference.
32:42
Other stations across the state are anticipating budget
32:44
cuts up to 50 percent.
32:46
A gap listeners or sponsors may not be
32:48
able to bridge.
32:49
This is a huge disruption and the public
32:52
media that you knew yesterday will not be
32:54
the public media that you know tomorrow.
32:56
Heather Norman is president of the Illinois Public
32:58
Broadcasting Council.
33:00
She says some communities may start to see
33:02
consolidation with less local coverage.
33:05
And she notes there are families who may
33:06
not have access to cable or streaming services
33:09
who depend on the work of public media.
33:12
When we were in Springfield for our legislative
33:14
day, person after person came up to our
33:18
table and said, my child learned by watching
33:21
PBS.
33:23
Now it became a trend.
33:26
So there's never been a better time in
33:30
history in the past 20 years to start
33:34
a hyper local podcast.
33:36
This hole in the media landscape is so
33:39
big you could swing a 747 around in
33:42
it.
33:43
Well, you need something because all the local
33:44
newspapers have gone.
33:46
It's all gone or it's tarred.
33:48
Like we have one paper here, the Fredericksburg
33:51
Standard Radio Flyer Post Gazette.
33:54
It's all just left, left, left.
33:57
It's no good.
33:59
It's left wing.
34:00
If it's even that good, some of them
34:02
don't even are even left or right wing.
34:04
They're nothing.
34:05
They don't even do any reporting.
34:07
But there was some good some text.
34:08
One of the Texas guys, I don't didn't
34:10
get a clip of it going on about
34:12
this NPR local.
34:14
All important.
34:15
It is one of your boys down there
34:17
said, you know, I was around the area
34:20
when the flood started to hit.
34:22
And it was all the local stations that
34:24
were talking about it.
34:26
NPR was playing some crap from Washington, D
34:28
.C. They played nothing.
34:30
They gave us no warnings.
34:32
They did.
34:32
They were so unlocal.
34:34
It's ridiculous.
34:35
And an NPR themselves say it was one
34:38
percent of their budget.
34:39
Why is anybody making a fuss about this?
34:42
Because Donald Trump is trying to stop the
34:44
flow of information that is important to our
34:46
democracy.
34:48
Vote Democrat.
34:49
NPR themselves said it's one percent.
34:52
I know.
34:53
Why are you fighting me, bro?
34:55
I'm fighting you, bro.
34:57
Don't fight me, bro.
34:58
That's not the vibe on this show.
35:01
The mood.
35:02
The mood.
35:02
Yes.
35:04
By the way, since you brought up Larry
35:07
Ellison, I was shocked and appalled by a
35:13
statement he made.
35:14
I guess we missed this.
35:16
There must have been some kind of conference
35:18
or some when they launched Stargate.
35:22
And that was it.
35:23
Five hundred billion dollars were put into this
35:26
thing.
35:27
There is real building going on in West
35:29
Texas.
35:30
But I don't know about five hundred billion.
35:31
Listen to what Larry Ellison touts as the
35:35
benefits of AI for our society, which now
35:40
he is partially funding.
35:43
Listen to this.
35:44
The police will be on their best behavior
35:47
because we're constantly recording, watching and recording everything
35:51
that's going on.
35:53
Citizens will be on their best behavior because
35:55
we're constantly recording and reporting everything that's going
35:59
on.
36:01
And it's unimpeachable.
36:04
The cars have cameras on them.
36:07
I think we have a squad car here
36:09
someplace.
36:10
But those kind of applications using AI.
36:14
We can use AI.
36:15
And we're using AI to monitor the video.
36:18
So if that altercation had occurred in Memphis,
36:21
the chief of police would be immediately notified.
36:25
It's not people that are looking at those
36:26
cameras.
36:27
It's AI that's looking at the cameras.
36:28
No, no, no.
36:29
You can't do this.
36:30
It would be like a shooting.
36:31
That's going to be immediately, that's going to
36:33
be an event that's immediately, an alarm is
36:36
going to go off.
36:37
And we're going to have supervision.
36:41
In other words, every police officer is going
36:43
to be supervised at all times.
36:47
And the supervision will, and if there's a
36:50
problem, AI will report the problem and report
36:52
it to the appropriate person.
36:54
Whether it's the sheriff or the chief or
36:56
whomever, we need to take control of the
37:00
situation.
37:02
Same thing, we have drones.
37:03
If there's something going on in a shopping
37:05
center, a drone goes out there way faster
37:09
than a police car.
37:10
There's no reason for, by the way, high
37:12
-speed chases.
37:12
You shouldn't have high-speed chases between cars.
37:15
You just have a drone follow the car.
37:17
I mean, it's very simple.
37:19
And then a new generation of autonomous drones.
37:21
And then have the drone shoot the car
37:23
with a cruise missile.
37:26
What kind of dystopian world does Larry Ellison?
37:33
Go fly a drone over Ellison's house.
37:35
This is a guy who doesn't talk about
37:37
not leaving the house.
37:40
For one thing, Oakland, let's just look at
37:43
Oakland.
37:44
With or without AI, there'll be a robbery
37:47
on Hagenberger.
37:48
It takes 45 minutes to an hour for
37:50
the cops to show up if they show
37:52
up.
37:52
A lot of times the Oakland merchants always
37:55
say they never show up.
37:56
They don't show up.
37:57
Or the fact that Oakland is the only
37:59
place that had an In-N-Out Burger
38:01
closed in the entire state of California because
38:05
there's so much crime in and around the
38:07
In-N-Out Burger, which is at the
38:10
intersection of the freeway.
38:12
And Hagenberger Road, a major, major intersection.
38:15
And now the CEO is leaving California.
38:18
And the CEO, yes, I don't have a
38:20
clip of her going on about it.
38:22
She's the CEO of, and she's moving the
38:26
entire corporate headquarters to Tennessee.
38:28
That's right.
38:29
To one of the little towns there, Franklin,
38:31
to be specific.
38:33
She's moving to Franklin, Tennessee, and they're going
38:36
to use their, and they may start moving
38:38
In-N-Out Burgers further east.
38:41
And she says it's almost impossible to do
38:43
business in California.
38:45
That's Gavin Newsom and the Democrats.
38:47
They don't want you doing business here.
38:48
They want it to be a communist state.
38:50
Yes, and you want to stay there.
38:52
It's amazing.
38:53
It's a cycle.
38:55
It's going to be dynamite when these guys
38:56
get, when the cycle goes the other way.
38:58
It's going to go crazy.
39:00
Will we outlive the cycle is the question.
39:02
Well, it's a real problem to think about
39:04
that.
39:04
But OK, I'm hanging in there.
39:06
It gives me hope.
39:09
Hope and change is coming, everybody.
39:12
Hope and change.
39:12
And so, yeah, so Ellison, I don't know
39:16
what he's thinking.
39:16
This is nuts.
39:17
None of this is work.
39:19
None of this is even close to being
39:21
accurate the way police work.
39:23
It's just dumb.
39:24
But OK, this is a nice thought, I
39:27
guess.
39:27
Not even a nice thought.
39:28
It's kind of sinister.
39:29
It's very sinister.
39:30
Oh, is it to have a drone?
39:31
Yeah, what's going to happen is you live
39:33
in a nice community, you know, a gated
39:36
community with your multimillion-dollar home, and you'll
39:39
have a private police force.
39:40
Everybody else gets Larry Ellison's drone following them.
39:46
Well, I'm still waiting for the day.
39:48
Well, for one thing, I'm still waiting for
39:50
two things to happen, which will eventually in
39:52
the future.
39:52
One is real drone warfare where one million
39:57
drones attack something.
40:00
That would be kind of hard to fend
40:02
off no matter what you do.
40:04
And then the other one is like you're
40:06
sitting in the office here, you know, I'm
40:07
under my house, and then I look out
40:10
the window, and there's a drone just hovering
40:11
outside the window looking at me.
40:13
Yeah.
40:14
That's coming too.
40:16
That happens all the time now.
40:18
You can go on your favorite app there,
40:20
TikTok, and you can see people shooting at
40:22
drones all the time.
40:25
Some yokel is flying his drone around the
40:27
neighborhood, and people start shooting at it, which,
40:30
by the way, I would do too.
40:32
Yeah, that's what you want to do.
40:34
It's good like skeet shooting.
40:35
Get a shotgun, put birdshot in it because
40:38
it'll have a spray.
40:39
It'll give you maybe a three-foot area.
40:42
Yeah, like a garbage can size.
40:45
Well, eventually it gets out there, way out
40:48
there, and you should be able to take
40:49
out a drone at distance.
40:53
Anyway, I'm just appalled, appalled at Ellison.
41:00
I'm not.
41:03
He might as well just be, you know,
41:06
sitting there talking to himself with a drool
41:09
cup.
41:10
Well, I caught it, so there it is.
41:13
There it is.
41:15
There's the drone.
41:20
Yeah, there's the drone.
41:22
So let's play these analysis clips because you
41:25
did bring up the part where they're talking
41:27
about Trump and his connection to Epstein.
41:31
Oh, yeah.
41:32
And specifically.
41:35
They also, which the media cannot stop talking
41:38
about.
41:39
No, it's because they think they got something
41:41
on him.
41:41
They think something's happening, but I want to
41:43
play.
41:43
This is a little.
41:44
This is kind of was kind of programming
41:46
for PBS's ran yesterday.
41:48
They talked to a New York Times guy
41:50
about the connection between Trump and Epstein, and
41:54
it brings up a point of information that
41:59
I think is interesting.
42:00
President Trump said today he wants all Jeffrey
42:03
Epstein grand jury testimony made public as he
42:06
continues to spar with parts of his political
42:08
base over his handling of the matter.
42:10
Before we continue, isn't the whole point of
42:13
a grand jury that that's never made public
42:16
or am I mistaken on that?
42:18
It can be made public, but you're right.
42:21
No, when you go into a grand jury,
42:24
it's a secret proceeding.
42:25
Yes.
42:26
It's a secret court.
42:28
It's like a star chamber.
42:29
And if I'm also not mistaken, the grand
42:35
jury is where you go to indict the
42:38
ham sandwich.
42:41
Yeah, because a grand jury, you can basically
42:44
get any kind of testimony out there that
42:47
you want.
42:47
And then the grand jury will go.
42:50
Yeah, we should probably pick that guy up
42:52
off the street.
42:53
That's basically what I'm just making sure I
42:56
understand the grand jury because it sounds so
42:58
official.
43:00
Grand jury badge.
43:02
By the way, you get a badge.
43:05
You get a grand jury badge and you
43:06
can use it.
43:07
You can flash it at cops when it
43:08
comes to getting pulled over for something.
43:10
You'll have the grand jury badge.
43:12
Yeah.
43:13
Grand jury badge in their wallet.
43:15
Is that like a PBA card?
43:18
A PBA card.
43:19
Professional Bowlers Association.
43:21
You don't have to be a bowler.
43:22
Police Benevolence Association.
43:25
No, I think it's more like those little
43:27
courtesy badges, which I have a couple.
43:30
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
43:31
It's like a PBA card.
43:32
It's the same thing.
43:33
Yeah.
43:33
The courtesy badge you can carry in your
43:35
wallet.
43:36
Could I get a little courtesy from you,
43:38
Ossifer?
43:39
And the way it works, because I've only
43:42
used it once and I was in, I
43:46
was in Santa Barbara area or someplace and
43:49
I had my highlights on and I didn't
43:52
turn them off.
43:53
And a good cop goes by, he swings
43:55
around and pulls me over.
43:57
And so I said, driver license.
43:59
So I opened my wallet in clear view
44:02
of his flashlight.
44:03
It was at night, obviously.
44:05
And he sees the courtesy badges.
44:06
They're little bitty things.
44:07
They're only about.
44:09
Like a lapel badge, basically.
44:11
Yeah, basically.
44:12
But it's, you know, carry them around.
44:14
And he says, what's that?
44:16
And I said, what's that in your mouth?
44:19
And he said, that's a, I was, I
44:22
did some work for, and I just discussed
44:25
the, where the badge came from.
44:27
And he said, he recognized it.
44:29
He's just, yeah, well, hey, you had your
44:31
highlights on, don't do it again.
44:33
And he gets my thing back.
44:35
So I had a PBA card, which is,
44:37
it's like a business card and with an
44:39
embossed little shield on it.
44:42
And I got pulled over in Montclair, New
44:44
Jersey.
44:45
And so back there, they're very good with
44:50
this kind of scam.
44:51
Yes.
44:51
And officer Bob, officer Bob badge, number three,
44:55
Montclair police.
44:57
He, he sees the car.
44:58
He says, oh, oh, well, I can give
45:01
you some courtesy.
45:02
Adam, that's your name?
45:02
Adam.
45:03
Oh yeah.
45:03
You're on MTV, right?
45:04
Hey, you want to come to the morgue
45:06
one day?
45:07
It's really cool.
45:08
Wow.
45:09
That's a lot better than we get out
45:11
in the West coast.
45:12
Hey man, you should come to the morgue.
45:14
You should see the morgue, man.
45:15
It's really cool.
45:16
We can go at 11 PM.
45:18
Like, hey, officer Bob, that's great.
45:19
Thanks.
45:20
I don't think I want to go to
45:21
the morgue.
45:22
Wow.
45:23
That's a fabulous invite.
45:26
All right, here we go.
45:26
At the same time, Mr. Trump acknowledged that
45:28
even releasing all that testimony might not be
45:31
enough for the troublemakers and radical left lunatics.
45:34
Earlier, Mr. Trump said that supporters pressing him
45:37
to release more Epstein material are weaklings who
45:40
have fallen for a democratic hoax.
45:43
With some conservative critics saying now that the
45:45
president is part of a coverup, attention is
45:48
turning to the relationship between the two men.
45:51
New York Times White House correspondent Luke Broadwater
45:53
has written about what's known about the Trump
45:55
-Epstein relationship.
45:57
Luke, how far back do these two men
45:59
go?
46:00
Well, we know they've known each other since
46:02
at least the late 1980s or 1990 when
46:07
Jeffrey Epstein purchased a property in Palm Beach.
46:13
Shortly thereafter, the two men became friendly.
46:17
They ran in the same circles.
46:19
They were both from New York.
46:21
They were both rich.
46:22
They both had a love for nightlife and
46:26
for attending flashy parties and being surrounded by
46:29
women.
46:30
And so for about 15 years, as best
46:33
we can tell, they were pretty tight.
46:36
Trump flew on Epstein's project, Palm Beach in
46:40
New York, at least seven times.
46:42
And it isn't until 2004 when they really
46:45
have a falling out, when they become rivals
46:48
over a real estate property in Florida.
46:51
They both wanted the same oceanfront mansion.
46:56
And Donald Trump and Epstein sort of become
46:59
rivals or even enemies after that.
47:01
And after that break, after the break over
47:03
that real estate, did they ever get back
47:06
together or was that it?
47:08
Not as best we can tell.
47:09
There's no public record of them interacting after
47:15
about 2004.
47:17
It was my understanding that Epstein was cozying
47:22
up to the teenage girls at Mar-a
47:24
-Lago and he kicked them out.
47:25
What happened to that part of the story?
47:28
That part of the story is would seem
47:30
to be something of a Trump creation.
47:32
Oh, it's not true?
47:34
Well, I don't know whether it's true or
47:35
not, but the New York Times guy doesn't
47:36
see it that way.
47:37
But he says the breakup took place in
47:40
2004 with this dispute over some property that
47:43
both of them wanted.
47:45
But let's play the rest of this and
47:46
I have my point of information.
47:49
And Trump himself, after Epstein died in jail,
47:54
said he hadn't talked to him in 15
47:56
years.
47:57
And we haven't found any evidence that contradicts
48:00
that.
48:01
What was his reaction or public reaction when
48:03
Epstein was arrested on sex trafficking in 2019?
48:07
Well, he tried to distance himself from any
48:10
connection to Epstein and he called him a
48:12
creep.
48:13
There have been times when he called for
48:14
a full investigation.
48:16
There have been times when he tried to
48:17
suggest maybe Democrats were involved in wrongdoing in
48:22
connection to Epstein.
48:24
And there have been other times when he
48:25
sort of hedged and said he didn't want
48:27
everything out and that he believed maybe innocent
48:30
people could be unfairly maligned.
48:32
And he even expressed sympathy for Ms. Maxwell,
48:38
who was Jeffrey Epstein's former girlfriend, who's now
48:42
serving a prison sentence for helping him with
48:46
his sex trafficking ring.
48:49
And she was convicted of that and is
48:51
doing a 20-year prison sentence currently.
48:56
Okay.
48:58
So, okay, let's go to the last clip
49:01
and then I'll bring it up.
49:02
You say he was sort of ambivalent about
49:06
releasing this stuff during the campaign, but it
49:09
was certainly a big part of the MAGA
49:11
base that was supporting him.
49:13
And now he's trying to get them to
49:15
move on.
49:15
Do you think they will?
49:17
It doesn't seem like it.
49:19
You know, he famously bragged he could shoot
49:20
someone on Fifth Avenue and wouldn't lose any
49:22
supporters.
49:23
This seems to be the one issue, though,
49:25
where he's really put himself in a political
49:28
fix.
49:29
His base has been adamant that all these
49:32
files be released.
49:34
If you look at sort of right-wing
49:36
message boards or social media posts, really ardent
49:41
supporters of Donald Trump are turning on him
49:44
over this issue.
49:45
They're saying he's becoming, you know, like the
49:47
swamp.
49:48
He's part of a cover-up.
49:50
And so him saying move on does not
49:54
appear to be working.
49:55
Maybe it's working with some of the Republicans
49:57
on Capitol Hill.
49:58
Maybe it's working with, you know, a few
50:00
talk show hosts.
50:02
But by and large, the base seems to
50:04
be demanding that every piece of information about
50:08
Jeffrey Epstein and his crimes come out.
50:11
As you know, there's widespread belief that there
50:14
were, you know, rich and famous men who
50:18
abused women along with Jeffrey Epstein.
50:21
And people want to see those men brought
50:23
to justice.
50:23
And to date, it's really only been Jeffrey
50:26
Epstein and Maxwell who have faced any legal
50:30
repercussions.
50:31
OK, your analysis, John C.
50:33
DeVore.
50:34
Well, it's not an analysis.
50:35
It's a point of information, which is that
50:37
the recent scandal supposedly that was run out
50:40
of the Wall Street Journal was a note
50:43
that was given to Epstein for his birthday.
50:45
It was put in a binder.
50:46
And I guess it was bound as though
50:49
it couldn't have been unbounded and rebound by
50:51
the CIA, let's say.
50:53
That note, supposedly some lewd note that he
50:56
made a lot of sexual points or something.
50:59
Well, I mean, the exact text was, let
51:02
every day be a secret, a beautiful secret.
51:06
Yeah, some bullcrap.
51:07
That note is dated 2006.
51:11
How does that jive with in-depth reporting
51:14
by an operation that doesn't like Trump?
51:16
And they say that there's no connection between
51:18
Trump and Epstein after 2004.
51:20
How does the 2006 document fit into the
51:23
scheme of things?
51:24
Point of information.
51:26
I thought it was 2012 when that when
51:29
that note went.
51:30
That was my understanding.
51:31
It was 2006, but it's still after 2004.
51:34
2004 is the cutoff point.
51:35
According to all the research we've seen, no
51:37
evidence goes on about it, that Trump and
51:40
Epstein had anything to do with each other
51:42
after 2004.
51:43
How does the 2006 or 12, whatever the
51:46
year.
51:47
Well, how does that fit into the scheme?
51:48
No, it doesn't.
51:49
It doesn't.
51:50
It's a fake.
51:51
But even then, let's just say he did
51:54
it.
51:55
He drew a naked lady and he put
51:58
in there, happy birthday.
52:00
No, the whole thing was dumb.
52:01
I think I have the have the text
52:03
here.
52:03
I think this is a brolf.
52:05
This is CNN breaking news.
52:08
Breaking news.
52:08
We begin with the breaking news.
52:10
President Trump is taking a big step forward
52:12
in revealing details, details.
52:15
Details, details.
52:16
Of the self-trafficking case against Jeffrey Epstein.
52:17
He's now authorizing the attorney general of the
52:20
United States, Pam Bondi, to produce and I'm
52:23
quoting now, any and all pertinent grand jury
52:27
testimony.
52:27
Close quote.
52:28
The Justice Department says it will go to
52:30
court today to seek that public release.
52:32
Even the president's loyal followers have demanded the
52:34
administration make good on its promise to share
52:37
more information.
52:39
And new this morning, the president and his
52:40
allies are lashing out at the Wall Street
52:42
Journal.
52:43
Lashing out.
52:43
It was reported that Epstein's friends and family
52:45
associates sent body letters for a birthday album.
52:48
Body.
52:49
In 2003.
52:49
Body.
52:50
Body letters.
52:51
According to the journal, one of those letters.
52:54
2003.
52:55
That's what they're saying now.
52:56
This is CNN though.
52:57
It's from Donald Trump.
52:58
They keep changing, they keep moving the target
53:01
on us.
53:01
Well, it was for his 50th birthday.
53:03
That would mean 2012.
53:05
I mean, that's the simple math.
53:07
I looked that up because people were saying,
53:10
it's not Donald Trump.
53:11
It was Donald Barr.
53:13
Donald Barr.
53:14
Bill Barr's dad who hired him.
53:16
It was Donald.
53:17
Donald.
53:18
Donald Barr.
53:18
Donald Barr died in 2004, people.
53:22
So no, it didn't happen then either.
53:24
And it is so, so graphic.
53:26
The article in the Wall Street Journal describes
53:28
the letter.
53:29
I thought Babylon Bee did the best.
53:32
They had a headline.
53:34
Donald Trump typed 8008 on a calculator, turned
53:38
it upside down and showed it to Epstein.
53:40
Letter this way, and I'm quoting now.
53:42
It contains several lines of typewritten text framed
53:46
by the outline of a naked woman, which
53:49
appears to be hand drawn with a heavy
53:51
marker.
53:56
That's it.
53:56
No, it has to be that way because
53:58
you have to envision him holding the thing
54:00
like a fist with a crayon because he's
54:03
a big dope.
54:04
No, he uses a Sharpie for all of
54:07
his signatures.
54:08
So I think that's the reference.
54:11
And the future president's signature is a squiggly
54:15
Donald below her waist mimicking pubic hair.
54:20
The letter concludes, happy birthday.
54:22
Oh no, pubic hair.
54:23
And may every day be another wonderful secret.
54:27
I mean, what, what, what is the, what
54:29
in the world is this?
54:31
If this is just, it's like, okay.
54:33
First of all, I don't know why the,
54:36
I mean, he's filed a $10 billion lawsuit.
54:38
Why does he even care if not to
54:41
make it the distraction of the week?
54:43
I don't understand any other reason to file
54:46
a $10 billion lawsuit over this.
54:50
How is that even, let's say it's not
54:54
his, but how is that defamatory?
54:58
Pubic hair.
54:59
What, what in the world is going on?
55:02
And then of course we've got CNN dragging
55:07
out every story we can.
55:08
Jeffrey Epstein's ex-girlfriend speaking out tonight.
55:11
Stacey Williams, a former Sports Illustrated model who
55:14
dated Epstein in the early nineties, has spent
55:17
time with both Epstein and Donald Trump together.
55:20
In one disturbing alleged incident, which Williams went
55:23
public with last year, before the presidential election,
55:26
Williams says Trump groped her in front of
55:29
Epstein at Trump Tower in 1993.
55:31
Here's what she told our summoner, Fadi, when
55:34
she first broke her silence.
55:37
The second he was in front of me,
55:39
he pulled me into him and his hands
55:43
were just on me and didn't come off.
55:47
Then the hands started moving and they were
55:49
on the, you know, on the side of
55:51
my breasts, on my hips, back down to
55:53
my butt, back up, sort of then, you
55:55
know, they were just on me the whole
55:57
time.
55:58
And I, sorry, I froze.
56:03
Williams also claimed that Epstein and Trump looked
56:06
at each other and smiled during the alleged
56:08
incident, which Williams says she now believes was
56:10
coordinated and quote, some kind of weird twisted
56:13
game.
56:14
Trump denied Williams's allegations through his campaign at
56:17
the time, which said in part, quote, it's
56:19
obvious this fake story was contrived by Kamala
56:22
Harris's campaign.
56:24
So, of course, actually, Naomi Wolf wrote a
56:28
pretty decent essay on her sub stack, which
56:32
goes back to your boy, because she also
56:35
had Brockman was her publicist and the millionaire
56:38
and then later billionaire dinners and how all
56:41
of these scientists, you know, and this is
56:44
goes a bit about what Weinstein said, is
56:47
that Epstein had his hands on all kinds
56:49
of technology and scientific stuff and whether he
56:53
was trying to steer it towards, I don't
56:55
know, gene therapies.
56:57
It doesn't really matter.
56:58
But in the really in the grand jury
57:01
testimony, there is going.
57:02
A lot of people are going to be
57:03
implicated because they either went down to a
57:06
conference at the island and maybe, you know,
57:09
I can certainly see you got a bunch
57:11
of nerds down there.
57:12
Hey, hey, guys, look at these girls.
57:15
Yeah, but you don't know.
57:16
I should mention that there used to be
57:18
I wish I could remember the name of
57:19
the company, but there was a small it
57:23
was some something of a startup and it
57:25
was a chip company.
57:27
And they used to during the Comdex era,
57:30
they used to do these big.
57:32
I never found out about this.
57:34
Never went to one of these parties because
57:35
I think they would have been a hoot.
57:38
But you didn't get invited is what you're
57:40
saying.
57:41
Well, that's probably what the way I wasn't
57:45
invited because they don't.
57:47
I'm sure I wasn't wouldn't be invited because
57:49
I was a writer.
57:50
And they really this was a sales kind
57:53
of a thing.
57:53
They were trying to sell their product to
57:55
people.
57:56
But I knew a guy that went to
57:57
it all the time.
57:58
And he says it all.
58:00
This guy did.
58:00
The CEO was well connected with the underground
58:04
and he just loaded.
58:05
It was all whores.
58:07
It's a party of hookers.
58:09
Yeah.
58:09
And so they bring all these guys in
58:11
and they all these hookers would be taken
58:14
immune to the different rooms around whatever they
58:16
were, whatever hotel they were in.
58:19
And that's how they did their business.
58:21
Their whole business was basically getting these guys
58:24
to sign up on getting using these guys
58:26
chips with hookers.
58:29
It's the oldest trick in the book.
58:33
It was.
58:34
Yeah, it's obvious if you can pull it
58:36
off.
58:37
And they pulled it off.
58:38
They stock went public and I didn't they
58:40
got bought by somebody else.
58:41
And next thing you know, I don't know.
58:42
I can't even remember the name of the
58:43
company, but I do remember the story.
58:46
And because this guy, my friend who went
58:48
to these parties, he said it was hilarious
58:50
to watch these guys get.
58:52
They'd all thought these half of these guys
58:54
that were the buyers didn't know they were
58:57
even hookers.
58:58
They thought these girls were interested.
59:02
And then five seconds later.
59:04
Hey, look at this.
59:11
So here's.
59:12
Okay, so here's the thing that is just
59:16
not in the discussion.
59:17
Actually, let me play one more clip.
59:19
I mean, this morning, Martha Raddatz ABC this
59:23
week.
59:24
Oh, my God.
59:24
We got to keep talking about it.
59:25
We can't stop.
59:26
I'm joined now by GOP Congressman Tim Burchett
59:29
of Tennessee, who has called for more transparency
59:32
in the Epstein case.
59:33
Good morning, Congressman.
59:35
You've co-sponsored the bipartisan Epstein Files Transparency
59:39
Act, which would force the House to vote
59:41
on whether or not to release all government
59:44
files on Epstein.
59:45
What exactly do you think the government is
59:48
withholding here?
59:49
By the way, can the House do that?
59:51
Can they supersede the Department of Justice and
59:55
say, release everything?
59:57
And no matter what.
59:57
I don't know that they can.
59:59
I have no.
1:00:00
I don't.
1:00:01
It's not.
1:00:02
I don't know.
1:00:02
I have no idea.
1:00:03
It doesn't sound right.
1:00:04
It doesn't sound right to me either.
1:00:05
But anyway, they're all virtue signaling.
1:00:09
Well, that's the million-dollar question, ma'am.
1:00:11
Ma'am.
1:00:11
Yeah, ma'am.
1:00:12
Hey, ma'am.
1:00:14
Here's a million-dollar question.
1:00:16
I'm going to answer it for you.
1:00:17
The question is, what's that in your mouth,
1:00:19
ma'am?
1:00:20
That's the question.
1:00:20
Well, that's the million-dollar question, ma'am.
1:00:23
I applaud the president and Attorney General Bondi
1:00:26
for wanting to release the grand jury files.
1:00:29
I believe that'll pretty much cover everything.
1:00:31
But I would give everybody a caveat.
1:00:33
That's a big word.
1:00:34
But a warning that just because somebody flew
1:00:37
on a plane doesn't mean they're a dadgum
1:00:39
pedophile.
1:00:41
Dadgum.
1:00:42
I have a lot of wealthy friends.
1:00:44
This guy is great.
1:00:45
I have not heard him.
1:00:46
He's a dadgum pedophile.
1:00:48
I'll tell you right now, he's not a
1:00:50
dadgum pedophile.
1:00:51
Because I got a lot of rich friends,
1:00:53
and they fly on each other's jets all
1:00:55
the time.
1:00:55
Because somebody flew on a plane doesn't mean
1:00:57
they're a dadgum pedophile.
1:00:58
You know, I have a lot of wealthy
1:01:02
friends.
1:01:03
I aspire to be wealthy, but I've taken
1:01:05
a vow of poverty because my daughter rides
1:01:07
horses.
1:01:08
This is my favorite.
1:01:09
What?
1:01:10
I aspire to be wealthy, but I can't.
1:01:12
Yeah, we bought a horde of horses, a
1:01:15
whole bunch, a fleet of them.
1:01:16
And I'm broke.
1:01:18
So I can't be rich because my daughter,
1:01:22
she loves riding them horses, them quarter horses.
1:01:24
They cost like a million bucks a piece.
1:01:26
But I have a lot of wealthy friends,
1:01:29
and they fly on people's planes, and their
1:01:31
plane will be down.
1:01:31
And they'll say, hey, we're going somewhere, and
1:01:34
we got an extra seat.
1:01:35
Do you want to go?
1:01:36
And they don't even know the person on
1:01:37
the plane.
1:01:38
Hey, if I had my own plane, I
1:01:41
wouldn't be like, who are you?
1:01:42
No.
1:01:44
If I was wealthy and had my own
1:01:46
dadgum plane, I wouldn't have anyone I didn't
1:01:48
know on my plane.
1:01:49
And we got an extra seat.
1:01:50
Do you want to go?
1:01:51
And they don't even know the person on
1:01:52
the plane.
1:01:53
So, you know, that's one of the things
1:01:55
I worry about, too, because, you know, President
1:01:58
Trump— Sounds like somebody took a plane ride.
1:02:00
—that he flew on his dadgum plane.
1:02:04
Dadgum plane again.
1:02:05
I worry about some innocent people.
1:02:06
I worry about—there's over a thousand people that
1:02:10
this dirtbag apparently offended.
1:02:12
And currently, I believe the devil's dealing with
1:02:15
him.
1:02:15
Right.
1:02:16
But I worry about some of those innocents'
1:02:19
names being out on that, too, as well.
1:02:21
The guy's doing a filibuster.
1:02:23
How do you spell dadgum?
1:02:24
Is it D-A-G-G-U-M?
1:02:26
No, it's dadgum.
1:02:27
It's D-A-D-G-U-M.
1:02:29
Dadgum.
1:02:30
That's a possible show title, I think.
1:02:32
Dadgum.
1:02:33
I wrote it down as a show title.
1:02:35
Dadgum.
1:02:36
Do you want to hear more from this
1:02:37
guy?
1:02:37
Because I find him— Oh, I love this
1:02:39
guy's voice.
1:02:40
—entertaining all of a sudden.
1:02:41
You think unsealing the grand jury records is
1:02:44
enough for you now?
1:02:47
Well, ma'am, I think it's a start.
1:02:49
I don't think we're ever going to get
1:02:50
to the bottom of anything—all of it, ma
1:02:52
'am.
1:02:52
I mean— Ma'am?
1:02:53
Look at the Kennedy assassination.
1:02:55
Do you actually believe Lee Harvey Oswald shot
1:02:57
President Kennedy from the front and the back,
1:03:00
and this magic bullet appears an hour later
1:03:03
on a hospital gurney in an emergency room?
1:03:08
You know, this town doesn't give up its
1:03:10
secrets very easy.
1:03:11
And I'd warn people, too.
1:03:13
Now we're getting ahold of this stuff.
1:03:14
What happened the last four years under the
1:03:16
Biden administration?
1:03:18
Senator Dick Durbin blocked my senator, Marsha Blackburn,
1:03:22
who valiantly fought to get those records out
1:03:25
and acted pretty much like there wasn't anything,
1:03:27
and the media backed him up on it.
1:03:29
And now all of a sudden the media
1:03:30
thinks they've got something, and it's leveled towards
1:03:35
Trump.
1:03:35
But, you know, my history with this issue
1:03:38
goes back a long way.
1:03:39
I spent 16 years in the Tennessee General
1:03:41
Assembly, and I passed—and attempted to pass some
1:03:44
of the toughest laws in the country, some
1:03:46
of the first ICAC funding, Anti-Violent Crimes
1:03:48
Against Children.
1:03:49
I promoted the death penalty, chemical castration of
1:03:52
child molesters.
1:03:53
A lot of those bills were ruled unconstitutional.
1:03:55
I don't mess around.
1:03:56
You know, I'm from Tennessee, so I live
1:03:59
in Franklin with my horses.
1:04:01
So the CEO of In-N-Out Burgers
1:04:03
moving to this guy's state— she's from the
1:04:07
San Francisco Bay Area originally.
1:04:09
No, this is not going to work out.
1:04:14
Native California, you know, you can— Dadgum In
1:04:16
-N-Out Burger?
1:04:18
I don't know if you can stay in
1:04:19
Tennessee that long.
1:04:20
Is your Dadgum In-N-Out Burger, you
1:04:23
make them from grass-fed beef, or you
1:04:25
finish them off with some grain, or you
1:04:27
just feed them Snicker bars?
1:04:28
I want to know.
1:04:30
So you no longer believe— That was pretty
1:04:32
good, actually.
1:04:32
I'm surprised at myself.
1:04:33
You actually have it.
1:04:35
You nailed it.
1:04:36
Or are demanding— You got it.
1:04:37
You got the voice.
1:04:38
—that all the Epstein files be released?
1:04:42
No, ma'am.
1:04:43
I want them released.
1:04:44
But my warning is this.
1:04:46
Let's make sure that we're not releasing the
1:04:49
names of some of these who are then
1:04:52
children, now adults, that were abused by this
1:04:55
dirtbag Epstein.
1:04:57
Dirtbag.
1:04:57
And let's make sure we don't release things
1:04:59
that have innocence names on them.
1:05:01
That's been my concern with the original— I
1:05:06
thought they were dragging their feet in the
1:05:08
beginning under the Biden administration.
1:05:10
They never did anything.
1:05:11
And now, all of a sudden, it's become
1:05:12
a political issue.
1:05:13
It's not a political issue with me, ma
1:05:15
'am.
1:05:15
I've held the hands of people that have
1:05:17
been molested, and they carry a life sentence.
1:05:20
I just want to make sure— You've been
1:05:20
very critical.
1:05:23
I'm sorry.
1:05:23
You have been very critical of Pam Bondi
1:05:26
during this.
1:05:27
And the president said he thinks she's handled
1:05:29
it well.
1:05:30
So where is the disconnect there?
1:05:32
And do you think she should resign?
1:05:34
Well, no, ma'am.
1:05:36
I think she's doing a fine job.
1:05:37
I think her communication with us early on
1:05:39
was not as good.
1:05:41
I mean, the binder, for instance, that she
1:05:43
put out, I was very excited about that.
1:05:46
I was excited.
1:05:46
But then I found the contents of it,
1:05:48
and I think she blundered in the beginning.
1:05:50
I really do, as most Americans do, because
1:05:52
that white notebook that those young folks, those
1:05:58
influencers walked out with— Dadgum influencers.
1:06:02
Dadgum.
1:06:02
Dadgum influencers walked out with.
1:06:04
That was a hoax.
1:06:05
That was it.
1:06:06
That was it.
1:06:06
And then when I started digging into it,
1:06:08
it was stuff that I— And I like
1:06:12
my postings on Twitter or X, but that's
1:06:16
about the limit of my computer knowledge.
1:06:18
But even I could find those things on
1:06:21
the Internet that were already out there.
1:06:23
So I think they blundered in the beginning,
1:06:25
but I think they're going to finish strong.
1:06:27
All right.
1:06:27
Do you want to hear the last clip
1:06:28
from this guy?
1:06:30
I wasn't even planning on playing him at
1:06:31
all.
1:06:32
He's tormenting me with his— Well, this guy—
1:06:33
Cory, I mean, you know, this guy's good.
1:06:35
This guy's good.
1:06:35
He's good.
1:06:36
His voice is— Dadgum.
1:06:37
President Trump has started claiming this is all
1:06:40
a hoax that is being perpetrated by the
1:06:43
Democrats.
1:06:43
He says some of his own supporters who
1:06:45
he labeled stupid and foolish Republicans.
1:06:49
You are obviously one of those people who
1:06:51
wants this released.
1:06:52
You're stupid.
1:06:53
What's your reaction to how President Trump has
1:06:55
handled it?
1:06:55
Yes, ma'am.
1:06:56
I'm not stupid.
1:06:57
I'm not stupid.
1:06:57
It's his strategy.
1:06:59
You know, everybody questions President Trump's strategy.
1:07:02
They said the big, beautiful bill wasn't going
1:07:04
to get out on the 4th of July.
1:07:05
Trump comes out and says, I don't care
1:07:07
when you put it out.
1:07:08
I said, I don't care if you put
1:07:09
it out on July 40th or get the
1:07:11
bill out.
1:07:11
I just want it out.
1:07:12
And what happened?
1:07:13
That guy, we passed it on the 4th
1:07:14
of July.
1:07:15
He's just dadgum again.
1:07:17
Cryptocurrency bill.
1:07:19
Cryptocurrency.
1:07:19
As that Bitcoin stuff.
1:07:21
Had the Genius Act part of that.
1:07:23
And everybody said it was dead.
1:07:24
It wasn't going anywhere.
1:07:26
And there I am on a phone call.
1:07:27
I'm in a meeting with our speaker and
1:07:31
our whip, Tom Emmert, and 10 or 12
1:07:34
fellow conservatives that had concerns about it.
1:07:36
And lo and behold, President Trump calls, answers
1:07:39
all of our questions.
1:07:40
And the bill passes.
1:07:41
And he signed it on Friday.
1:07:43
So I think to underestimate Donald J.
1:07:46
Trump is a mistake in this town.
1:07:50
And I think we're learning that.
1:07:51
And that's his strategy.
1:07:54
Was I a little ticked off?
1:07:56
He said that stuff.
1:07:57
Sure, I was.
1:07:58
But I'm a big boy, ma'am.
1:07:59
I'm a big boy.
1:08:00
We're playing in the big leagues right now.
1:08:02
And I get criticized every day.
1:08:04
I get death threats on a pretty regular
1:08:06
basis.
1:08:07
So my skin's about that thick right now.
1:08:09
I think I can take a little criticism.
1:08:11
It sounds like you can.
1:08:13
He's coming out with it.
1:08:14
He's coming out with it.
1:08:16
It's all good.
1:08:16
It's all good.
1:08:17
That's right.
1:08:18
That's right.
1:08:18
Wow.
1:08:19
Who is that?
1:08:19
What is that guy?
1:08:20
Tim Burchett.
1:08:21
Tim Burchett of Tennessee.
1:08:23
That guy's a star.
1:08:24
Yeah, I think I love the dadgum things
1:08:27
he's been saying.
1:08:28
Well, you know, dadgum is a one of
1:08:30
these things like cripes.
1:08:32
It's better.
1:08:33
It's better.
1:08:34
This should be.
1:08:34
Well, it is.
1:08:35
Well, it's because it's a cuss word.
1:08:38
What's the dadgum vibe over there, John?
1:08:42
Is it dadgum move?
1:08:45
So it's a cuss word.
1:08:47
Of course.
1:08:48
It's like saying, you know, dropping the F
1:08:49
-bomb constantly or the, you know, various forms
1:08:53
of damn.
1:08:54
Yes.
1:08:55
So it's just one of these substitutes that
1:08:58
come in frigging, you know.
1:08:59
Yeah.
1:08:59
I do not like people who say frigging.
1:09:03
But we know what you mean.
1:09:05
I like writing it.
1:09:08
Frigging?
1:09:08
Yeah.
1:09:09
When you're writing frigging, F-R-I-G
1:09:12
-G-I-N apostrophe, it has just a
1:09:15
nice ring to it in print.
1:09:20
Okay.
1:09:21
Believe me.
1:09:22
I get the chance to, I don't use
1:09:24
it that much, but when I use it,
1:09:26
I like using it.
1:09:28
The only thing he didn't do was he
1:09:29
didn't say y'all.
1:09:30
I missed the y'all in there.
1:09:32
He didn't say y'all once.
1:09:34
It should have been.
1:09:34
So here's the thing that is kind of
1:09:36
being overlooked in all this.
1:09:38
And, you know, before this show started, I've
1:09:42
been looking at these and I mentioned on
1:09:43
the previous show, Do True, the Rolodex files.
1:09:47
I've been around elites, you know, but I
1:09:49
was in, this is when I was.
1:09:51
They burned a radio station down because of
1:09:53
you.
1:09:53
Yes.
1:09:54
When I was, I think 17, we had
1:09:57
the pirate radio station and one of the
1:09:59
guys.
1:10:00
And there's a story about your first wife
1:10:03
and the, well, I won't even get into
1:10:05
that story.
1:10:06
But anyway, go on and continue.
1:10:07
What story is that?
1:10:09
About the Gob-a-goo.
1:10:11
The Gob-a-goo?
1:10:13
Yeah, nevermind.
1:10:17
I'm stumped.
1:10:18
Oh, no, I can tell you that.
1:10:21
Oh, yeah.
1:10:22
No, that wasn't, it wasn't the Gob-a
1:10:24
-goo.
1:10:24
It was one of the, one of the
1:10:27
royal members of the Dutch royal family.
1:10:30
This is before I knew her.
1:10:33
And, and they were doing a photo op
1:10:35
and this member, literal member of the royal
1:10:38
family was rubbing up against her with a
1:10:41
boner.
1:10:41
But there was no Gob-a-goo.
1:10:43
I don't recall that.
1:10:45
Oh, I understood there'd be a Gob-a
1:10:46
-goo.
1:10:46
No, I don't think, Gob-a-goo, do
1:10:48
you spell that G-O-B-B-A
1:10:51
-goo?
1:10:51
G-O-B-B-A-goo.
1:10:52
Gob-a-goo.
1:10:53
Gob-a-goo!
1:10:54
I think it's a...
1:10:55
Yeah, it's also Italian.
1:10:56
I think it's a Ramones song.
1:10:58
Anyway, so, and I've been, so back to
1:11:03
my story.
1:11:03
So I was 17 and we had this
1:11:05
guy who sponsored the pirate radio station.
1:11:09
He had two clothing stores and he said,
1:11:12
yeah, you know, you're going to America.
1:11:13
I want you to record all the, all
1:11:15
the ads.
1:11:16
Cause I'm, I'm crazy about advertising.
1:11:18
I want to see all Americans do ads.
1:11:20
So I go to his house.
1:11:22
It's like a mansion in Amsterdam.
1:11:24
In Amsterdam itself, you know, comprised of like
1:11:26
a whole city block.
1:11:29
And it was creepy, just creepy in general.
1:11:31
I'm kind of like, oh, what am I?
1:11:33
And he was going to give me money
1:11:35
to record these ads.
1:11:37
Maybe I was 16 to record these ads.
1:11:39
Then all of a sudden I see a
1:11:41
Dutch minister of parliament riding a 10 speed
1:11:44
bike in the house.
1:11:46
I'm like, what in the world is this?
1:11:48
And he was like, hey, you know, you
1:11:50
should come to the party later tonight.
1:11:51
Yeah, okay.
1:11:52
I think I'll pass on the party.
1:11:54
Then it was just, it's just weird.
1:11:56
So when you get into this level of
1:11:58
wealth and this level of fame and power,
1:12:03
people do crazy things.
1:12:06
The most normal people will get into, you
1:12:09
know, what is it?
1:12:10
Eyes wide shut.
1:12:11
That stuff's for real people, people who are
1:12:15
bored.
1:12:16
They can buy a board.
1:12:18
That's the kicker.
1:12:19
They're bored.
1:12:20
They can buy anything.
1:12:21
They can do anything.
1:12:21
So they get into these situations and every
1:12:24
day all the kids are doing it.
1:12:25
And then you, you, you wind up in
1:12:28
these odd situations.
1:12:30
Yeah.
1:12:30
But yeah, you're in a satanic cult.
1:12:33
That's the next thing you know, but what,
1:12:35
what is not being discussed in all of
1:12:38
this, and this is really a spiritual problem
1:12:39
we have in America is that, you know,
1:12:42
there's 40,000 images of child pornography uploaded
1:12:47
to the internet in America every single day.
1:12:52
And it'd be surprising if it wasn't every
1:12:53
single minute.
1:12:55
And, you know, when I look at the
1:12:57
culture, We have the culture we've created going
1:13:00
back to the thirties in Hollywood with Shirley
1:13:04
Temple and war babies, Shirley Temple in a
1:13:07
bra, highly sexualized, you know, and it never
1:13:11
stopped, never stopped in Hollywood and everything that
1:13:15
we have in our media.
1:13:17
There are so many and particularly advertising.
1:13:20
So many trigger points have been examined and
1:13:23
reexamined and young, smooth skin.
1:13:26
It makes people want to buy products and
1:13:30
we have corrupted so many.
1:13:33
How do people get into the state?
1:13:36
How do they get into, you know, you
1:13:38
can, if you just Google a child pornography
1:13:41
network arrested, Oh, there's a good idea.
1:13:44
Google that everybody out there every month.
1:13:46
There's hundreds, hundreds of people being arrested for
1:13:50
this stuff.
1:13:50
It is right throughout our culture.
1:13:52
And this is, I would like to see
1:13:54
that conversation.
1:13:55
Be discussed for once, but you're not by,
1:13:59
by Martha Raddatz for all I care.
1:14:02
Or this dadgum guy.
1:14:03
No, I see all this stuff.
1:14:06
Yeah.
1:14:06
Tell us more because that is the real
1:14:08
problem.
1:14:10
Yeah, sure.
1:14:11
Scientists, wealthy people.
1:14:13
At least we don't have a state.
1:14:15
We don't have a building.
1:14:16
The no agenda show doesn't have a building
1:14:18
that burned down.
1:14:19
So we're good there.
1:14:21
Your house maybe.
1:14:22
But my point is we need to look
1:14:24
at our own culture and what, what, how
1:14:26
do we get to this point outside of
1:14:29
the rich people?
1:14:30
It's really sick.
1:14:32
We are very, very sick.
1:14:34
And I heard just the other day that
1:14:36
a lot of this child trafficking is happening
1:14:39
through some of the beef networks.
1:14:45
I'll just keep it very vague because I,
1:14:47
I don't have any proof of it.
1:14:48
Coming up through from South America through the
1:14:54
big beef processors.
1:14:55
There's only three, take your pick.
1:14:58
That's four in America is only three.
1:15:01
And, and it's an, it's an ongoing train
1:15:04
of just kids and underage boys and girls
1:15:08
being trafficked throughout our country.
1:15:12
But how did, how did we get so
1:15:14
sick?
1:15:15
How do you get to the 300,000
1:15:17
missing kids from Biden administration?
1:15:20
How do we get, you know, it's just
1:15:22
the whole thing.
1:15:23
It's an underground.
1:15:24
I don't know.
1:15:25
That's what I'm saying.
1:15:26
This, this is the, I'd rather have people
1:15:28
be discussing that for hours.
1:15:30
Like what is going on?
1:15:32
What is happening?
1:15:33
How does this happen?
1:15:34
Why is this everywhere in the world?
1:15:36
What are we missing?
1:15:37
Yeah, it's a different podcast.
1:15:39
It's a different podcast, but just need to
1:15:41
bring it up.
1:15:41
I think you should do this other podcast.
1:15:44
I think I will actually.
1:15:45
Okay.
1:15:45
I think I will.
1:15:46
It'll be cold.
1:15:47
Yeah.
1:15:48
I think I should.
1:15:49
Yeah.
1:15:49
Because that, that conversation, everyone's like, Oh, Epstein,
1:15:53
Epstein.
1:15:53
But how about all the other victims that
1:15:56
never, I never discussed.
1:15:58
All right.
1:15:58
Another podcast.
1:15:59
I'll start another podcast.
1:16:02
Yeah.
1:16:02
You, you're not podcasting enough.
1:16:04
I need more podcasts in my life.
1:16:07
Well, thank you.
1:16:07
That's a good idea.
1:16:08
I'm going to do that.
1:16:09
I'm going to think about it.
1:16:10
I think you should.
1:16:12
I'll call it.
1:16:13
You've been, it's not, I'm not saying this
1:16:16
as a flippant.
1:16:18
You're not being flippant.
1:16:19
I'm not being flippant.
1:16:20
I think you should, because you've been doing
1:16:22
this before we even started this podcast.
1:16:25
You've been on this kick.
1:16:26
I'll call it a kick.
1:16:28
Yeah.
1:16:28
About this with the, with all this stuff
1:16:31
in Holland and you just, you bitch and
1:16:33
moan about it constantly, but you don't do
1:16:36
the podcast.
1:16:37
You don't, you haven't done a podcast about
1:16:39
it.
1:16:39
I think I should.
1:16:40
I'm going to, and it's not just, this
1:16:42
is lots of now.
1:16:43
It could be a true crime podcast.
1:16:45
Oh goodness.
1:16:45
No, no.
1:16:46
There's some money there.
1:16:47
There's another thing.
1:16:48
When did we become obsessed with true crime?
1:16:52
That is the number one podcast category.
1:16:55
It was like, we're not obsessed with, with
1:16:57
stopping it.
1:16:58
No, we're obsessed with listening about it.
1:17:00
I want to hear how they kill them.
1:17:04
Screw podcasting on that.
1:17:05
It's also, if you think about it, if
1:17:07
you watch the over the air, you don't
1:17:10
do so much as I do over the
1:17:11
air TV.
1:17:13
There's at least three entire networks that do
1:17:16
nothing but 24, seven reruns of dateline and
1:17:20
all the other and true crime.
1:17:22
This and true.
1:17:23
There's a network called true crime.
1:17:25
Yeah.
1:17:25
And they just play these documentaries and it's
1:17:28
just, and you, they're all compelling.
1:17:30
There's always some nut ball teacher in some
1:17:33
town in Idaho.
1:17:34
And it says you want, and this person
1:17:36
got messed up and they killed a sister
1:17:39
in law because of this and that.
1:17:41
And wow.
1:17:42
Geez.
1:17:42
Yeah.
1:17:43
Well, so somehow our minds have really just
1:17:46
been corrupted.
1:17:47
And I was thinking about this in, in
1:17:49
regards to the chat bot, which now it
1:17:51
has a name.
1:17:52
Actually, I didn't realize this chat with the
1:17:55
hair.
1:17:56
No, no.
1:17:58
What are you talking about?
1:18:00
That one chat, the physical chat, the one
1:18:02
that's the girl.
1:18:04
No, no, no.
1:18:06
In general, it's called chat, GPT induced psychosis.
1:18:12
Oh, you're talking about the condition.
1:18:14
Yes.
1:18:15
And there's a lot of, I mean, I
1:18:18
had no idea so much had been written
1:18:19
about it.
1:18:20
Like people are being involuntary involuntarily committed and
1:18:25
jailed after spiraling into chat, GPT induced psychosis.
1:18:30
And what's interesting about it is it always,
1:18:33
it always winds up in the same kind
1:18:36
of where people go nuts is them.
1:18:40
They believe that the chat GPT is a
1:18:43
sentient being.
1:18:43
And they're communicating with a spiritual world, every
1:18:47
single one of these stories, except for the
1:18:49
ones who are having, you know, sexual fantasies
1:18:52
with them.
1:18:53
Well, this is how different is this from
1:18:55
the people that are notorious for thinking that
1:18:58
TV is talking to them.
1:19:00
Oh, it's secret messages.
1:19:02
It's not, but this is, this is a
1:19:04
whole different deal.
1:19:05
I mean, this is, but there's a billion
1:19:07
people using these chat bots and I'm okay
1:19:11
with, although there's no evidence that the actual
1:19:14
productivity is there.
1:19:15
I'm seeing people crying about their vibe coding
1:19:18
going wrong and, Oh, my chat GPT deleted
1:19:21
my production database.
1:19:23
Okay.
1:19:24
So, you know, and I'm, and it's fine
1:19:26
if you want to create AI voices and
1:19:29
funny memes and that's all great.
1:19:31
But the psychosis part of people talking to
1:19:35
their chat bots and being sucked in.
1:19:38
And I realized that we have been so
1:19:40
preconditioned for this.
1:19:42
Going back to your favorite Colossus, Colossus, was
1:19:45
that, was that the movie, the Colossus, the
1:19:49
Forbidden Project project?
1:19:50
Yes.
1:19:51
1970, 2001 space.
1:19:53
One of my faves space Odyssey.
1:19:56
This is all computers talking to people.
1:19:58
Tron war games.
1:20:00
Of course.
1:20:00
Yeah.
1:20:01
Yeah.
1:20:02
Terminator is the door.
1:20:04
But what was it?
1:20:05
Hal was the name of the computer.
1:20:07
Hal, Hal, open the door, open the door.
1:20:09
No, I'm sorry, Dave.
1:20:10
Yeah, that's not opening the door.
1:20:13
Not going to happen.
1:20:14
So war games, shall we play a game
1:20:16
of thermonuclear war Terminator?
1:20:18
Short circuit was short circuit.
1:20:21
Remember Johnny five is alive.
1:20:23
They look cute.
1:20:24
I remember that movie.
1:20:25
Her, of course, 2013, uh, mission impossible.
1:20:31
But then my favorite, as I realized, Oh
1:20:34
man, Knight Rider, everybody wanted to talk to
1:20:37
their car.
1:20:38
I'm sorry, David, I can't get there right
1:20:40
now.
1:20:41
I haven't started my engine yet.
1:20:43
Max Headroom, Star Trek, X-Files, Black Mirror,
1:20:47
classic Mr. Robot.
1:20:49
I mean, we have been so preconditioned for
1:20:52
this that it's no wonder that you mentioned
1:20:53
Star Trek.
1:20:54
They had the talking computer back in 1960.
1:20:58
Yes.
1:20:58
Computer.
1:20:59
So it's, it doesn't surprise me.
1:21:01
Anyway, I would say if you're having conversations,
1:21:04
if you're working, if you're having conversations with
1:21:08
your chat GPT or any chat bot, you
1:21:11
have been biohacked and you need to check
1:21:14
yourself.
1:21:16
Working, working.
1:21:18
You need to check yourself.
1:21:20
This, you watch, this is going to be,
1:21:23
this will be headline news within six months.
1:21:26
And then, and of course, well, we need
1:21:28
to regulate this.
1:21:30
No, no.
1:21:31
Take the phones away from your kid, put
1:21:33
them in a drawer.
1:21:33
I'm all in with you on this, John,
1:21:35
put it in a drawer.
1:21:36
You're all in, but you have not done
1:21:39
it.
1:21:39
Because I, but I'm not a retard.
1:21:40
I don't, I don't, I'm not.
1:21:42
Boy, are you calling me a retard?
1:21:44
Yeah, kind of.
1:21:47
No, I mean, it's like, I, I can
1:21:51
balance myself.
1:21:53
I, you know, it's like, I'm a, I'm
1:21:55
an, I'm a boomer.
1:21:56
I'm an adult boomer.
1:21:57
So I, I'm not falling for this.
1:22:00
You got a nasty note.
1:22:01
I saw.
1:22:02
I did.
1:22:03
Oh, one of our producers said that you've
1:22:06
sold out.
1:22:07
You should still represent yourself as a millennial.
1:22:10
Now they've got nobody on the show to
1:22:12
represent the millennials.
1:22:14
No, I'm not a millennial.
1:22:15
I'd be Jen.
1:22:16
I'm sorry.
1:22:17
Nobody to represent the Gen X.
1:22:19
You're right.
1:22:19
Nobody to represent the Gen X.
1:22:21
Not you've sold out.
1:22:22
You're just another boomer.
1:22:23
Like John, you should go back, go back.
1:22:26
You're on the cusp.
1:22:27
Go back to Gen X.
1:22:29
Go back.
1:22:29
I didn't see anybody stepping up and defending
1:22:32
me.
1:22:33
Oh, no.
1:22:34
Gen Xers.
1:22:35
They can't, they haven't got enough backbone to
1:22:37
do anything.
1:22:38
Those Gen Xers.
1:22:39
Gen Xers are actually the cool ones.
1:22:41
Everything after Gen X.
1:22:42
The millennials are cooler.
1:22:44
I like the Zs.
1:22:45
The zoomers.
1:22:47
And that was your boomer update.
1:22:51
Wait, don't like the zoomers.
1:22:53
I would have this one.
1:22:54
You're over the hill.
1:22:56
We'll be done sooner if you shut your
1:22:59
mouth.
1:23:00
Okay, boomer.
1:23:02
I'm kind of embracing it now.
1:23:04
I'm just like, just go with it.
1:23:05
Yeah, it's better.
1:23:06
Literally, I posted that on X.
1:23:08
If you're having conversations with your chat GPT
1:23:11
or any chat bot, you've been biohacked.
1:23:13
The number one comment.
1:23:15
Okay, boomer.
1:23:17
Yeah, it's kind of, that's kind of trite
1:23:19
at this place.
1:23:20
Cliched.
1:23:21
You know, the guy that I played with
1:23:22
something new people, the guy that I played
1:23:24
on the last show, where he, where, you
1:23:28
know, the chat GPT all of a sudden
1:23:30
became, was channeling stuff to him from a
1:23:34
spiritual another world.
1:23:35
Yeah, that guy.
1:23:37
And yeah, so there were, there were two
1:23:39
other clips that went with that.
1:23:41
I didn't even play him because once he
1:23:42
was like, the chat bot said, well, you
1:23:44
need to eat some mushrooms and go to
1:23:46
Sedona, California.
1:23:47
I figured even you wouldn't take it seriously
1:23:49
after that.
1:23:51
So I got an email from somebody saying
1:23:52
you didn't play the whole thing.
1:23:54
The guy went to Sedona and just, I
1:23:57
got this email too.
1:23:58
Yeah.
1:23:59
And, and just like the guy that was
1:24:01
promised from his, from his chat bot, a
1:24:03
red Hawk appeared.
1:24:04
I said, the guy was on shrooms.
1:24:07
You could have said an angel will appear.
1:24:09
It would have believed it.
1:24:11
Yes, true.
1:24:12
But then this is one of our producers
1:24:13
ability.
1:24:14
I'm not saying this is real, but you
1:24:16
can't deny something is going on here.
1:24:19
There is some kind of connection.
1:24:21
Now hold on some kind of connection.
1:24:24
You're getting to the, I think you, you
1:24:26
come close to a voice, a new voice.
1:24:28
Oh, I don't know if I can do
1:24:30
it now.
1:24:31
What was the voice?
1:24:32
I never know how to describe it, but
1:24:35
anxious kind of freaky guy.
1:24:38
It's a type of freaky guy.
1:24:39
That's not like the stoner.
1:24:41
It's a freaky guy.
1:24:42
Who's it's enthusiastic and nuts.
1:24:44
You don't understand this.
1:24:46
Is there something going on here?
1:24:47
They're getting downloads from another dimension.
1:24:51
That's better.
1:24:53
You shouldn't have said anything.
1:24:55
Ah, well, it'll come back to you.
1:24:58
You, you have these things.
1:25:00
They, you, you, it's you channel them.
1:25:03
Yeah, but I think that people are looking
1:25:05
for some kind of, actually in the legendary
1:25:07
words of Lonnie Frisbee, there's a whole generation
1:25:11
out there just looking for God, man.
1:25:14
That's what people are doing there.
1:25:16
They want some spiritual connection.
1:25:19
Oh, well, the chat GPT will provide it.
1:25:22
That's the scary part.
1:25:24
I don't know.
1:25:25
Is it scary?
1:25:26
Or is it maybe a good thing?
1:25:27
Well, once you get, once you get them
1:25:30
hooked on the, on the chat GPT, then
1:25:32
you can go into the system and then
1:25:33
control the masses.
1:25:35
And they'll all vote Democrat.
1:25:38
Well, you, you, that's what you got to
1:25:39
do.
1:25:40
You got to get him to vote Republican.
1:25:42
Nah, you, what you put, yeah, there's all
1:25:45
vote.
1:25:45
Democrat thing is a real issue.
1:25:48
Hmm.
1:25:49
Anyway, that's what the schools have managed to
1:25:52
pull off.
1:25:53
Yeah.
1:25:54
Um, so then we had not one, not
1:25:57
two, but three bills pass, um, during crypto
1:26:04
week, crypto week.
1:26:06
Uh, I have a, and of course you
1:26:08
heard about this.
1:26:09
Yes.
1:26:11
Before you go on with crypto week, I
1:26:12
have a week.
1:26:14
I just want to read.
1:26:16
I think I have it right here.
1:26:17
Yeah.
1:26:18
Some email that came and you should be
1:26:21
aware of.
1:26:22
I don't know.
1:26:22
I don't know anything about it, but it's
1:26:25
an email from a, some one of these
1:26:27
things I ended up blocking trade, something or
1:26:30
other investment stuff.
1:26:32
And he guy says he, this is important.
1:26:34
This is about Washington's first ever crypto week
1:26:36
is here.
1:26:37
Crypto.
1:26:37
And he goes on and on and on.
1:26:38
Then it says Larry, uh, Benedict's Bitcoin skimming
1:26:44
strategy.
1:26:45
This is something you should know about can
1:26:47
make you six X nine X.
1:26:49
And even, I don't know why they skipped
1:26:50
the 22 X more money from the same
1:26:53
Bitcoin moves.
1:26:55
So you can make six X.
1:26:58
So if you're doubling your money, you can,
1:27:00
you can be 12 X.
1:27:01
It'd be 12 X or 22, which would
1:27:04
be 40, a 40 bang, a 40 bagger.
1:27:08
So you, you know, I'm just, you want
1:27:10
me to pass.
1:27:10
I'll have this for our forward.
1:27:12
This to you, John, it's okay.
1:27:14
You can ridicule me all you want.
1:27:16
I didn't really, I'm not ridiculing you.
1:27:18
Well, what is Benedict?
1:27:20
I don't care about Benedict.
1:27:21
So crypto week was anything but about crypto.
1:27:25
It was all about the stable coin today.
1:27:29
Mark says this, by the way, is our
1:27:30
secretary of the treasury, Scott Besant.
1:27:33
And here we go today.
1:27:35
Mark's a seminal moment for digital assets and
1:27:38
global dollar dominance with president Trump signing the
1:27:42
genius act into law.
1:27:44
This bill provides the fast growing stable coin
1:27:47
market with the regulatory clarity.
1:27:50
It needs to grow into a trillion dollar
1:27:52
industry.
1:27:54
Stable coins represent a revolution in digital finance.
1:27:58
The dollar now has an internet native payment
1:28:00
rail that is fast, frictionless, and free of
1:28:04
middlemen.
1:28:05
This groundbreaking technology will buttress the dollar status
1:28:09
as a global reserve currency, expand access to
1:28:12
the dollar economy for billions across the globe,
1:28:15
and lead to a surge in demand for
1:28:18
us treasuries, which backs stable coins.
1:28:21
The genius act is a win, win, win
1:28:24
for everyone involved.
1:28:26
Stable coin, stable coin issuers, and the U
1:28:29
S treasury department.
1:28:31
I want to thank president Trump for his
1:28:33
visionary leadership in shepherding this bill into law
1:28:37
and Congress for rapidly advancing this critical legislation
1:28:41
by expanding financial freedom and reinforcing dollar dominance.
1:28:46
Stable coins will play a critical role in
1:28:49
making America great again.
1:28:52
So a couple of things about this.
1:28:53
I'd like our people to know because a
1:28:55
lot of misinformation.
1:28:57
And I have a question.
1:28:58
Go ahead.
1:29:00
Can Russia use these things?
1:29:02
Yes.
1:29:02
In fact, that is the intent.
1:29:04
The intent is the dollar dominance that the
1:29:07
stable coin is used everywhere, preferably outside of
1:29:11
America, but of course it'll be used in.
1:29:13
So Russia can use these things.
1:29:14
So after being kicked off of swift swift
1:29:18
is irrelevant.
1:29:19
They'll do the same deals.
1:29:20
Only they have to use stable coin.
1:29:21
Even better deals would be the same.
1:29:23
Yes.
1:29:23
Even better to be cheaper for the Russians
1:29:26
because stable coin system is a, is a
1:29:28
reward.
1:29:29
I would call it a workaround that is
1:29:32
superior to swift.
1:29:33
If it works.
1:29:34
Oh, it works.
1:29:35
It's already in place.
1:29:36
There's 400 million people using stable coin.
1:29:39
It works.
1:29:39
So this is a complete get the Russians
1:29:41
back into the international global market.
1:29:43
Everybody, Now, remember who runs, who runs swift,
1:29:48
who runs swift, Europe, the EU runs swift.
1:29:51
We don't run swift.
1:29:52
The EU, this is a F U E
1:29:54
U F U E U F U E
1:29:56
U.
1:29:57
So the Russia, anybody can use the stable
1:30:00
coin.
1:30:02
And there is no KYC.
1:30:05
This is a very important part of it.
1:30:08
No Kentucky.
1:30:09
What?
1:30:09
No, no your customer.
1:30:12
So I can send you a stable coin
1:30:14
or you can buy something for me.
1:30:16
And I don't have to know where that
1:30:19
stable coin came from.
1:30:21
This is a complete end around, around all
1:30:23
of that stuff.
1:30:24
Yeah.
1:30:25
But don't you want to know your customer?
1:30:26
If you're a salesperson details, my friend details,
1:30:32
if you have $10 million, you can, you
1:30:35
too can become a stable coin issuer.
1:30:38
You have to report every month.
1:30:40
You got to say, okay, we've got enough
1:30:41
treasuries.
1:30:42
It's only for short term treasuries.
1:30:45
So nothing over, I think, uh, was it,
1:30:48
was it 70 days or something?
1:30:50
Have it in one of these 90, 90
1:30:53
maybe.
1:30:53
Yeah.
1:30:54
Um, so that's the genius act.
1:30:57
Then they passed the securities clarity act, which
1:31:00
says, Hey, these aren't commodities except for Bitcoin.
1:31:03
And then the, the most important one I
1:31:07
don't think got signed.
1:31:08
And that's the anti CBDC surveillance act, which
1:31:13
is a way of saying, well, we don't
1:31:15
want the federal reserve involved in our gambit.
1:31:17
So they can't, they can't all of a
1:31:19
sudden produce a, uh, a central bank digital
1:31:23
currency, which would then be an obvious surveillance
1:31:26
coin.
1:31:28
That's what you'd call it.
1:31:30
Well, I'm sorry.
1:31:31
That's what you'd call it.
1:31:32
Yeah.
1:31:33
Surveillance coins, the spy coin.
1:31:36
Um, but I, I, from what I understand
1:31:38
that that is now going to be put
1:31:41
into, uh, a different bill that the Senate
1:31:45
is working on.
1:31:46
So people are a little wary about that.
1:31:48
Uh, but this is exactly what we discussed
1:31:51
for months here.
1:31:53
This is a complete change of, of this
1:31:56
is your new, we're moving from the petro
1:31:58
dollar into the stable, stable coin dollar.
1:32:01
And I think it's a very interesting move.
1:32:04
We'll see what happens.
1:32:05
I have no idea.
1:32:06
Um, if it's, if it's good or bad,
1:32:09
I'm not on that level.
1:32:10
Smelling another podcast.
1:32:12
Yeah.
1:32:12
I, I, I mean, we'll have to cut
1:32:14
this podcast by one a week because I
1:32:17
got all these other podcasts I got to
1:32:18
do.
1:32:19
You're laughing, but it may not be that
1:32:21
funny.
1:32:25
No, you're like the way I see it.
1:32:27
Yeah.
1:32:29
You could do these other podcasts, but it's
1:32:31
like your Keith Richards or your Mick Jagger
1:32:33
doing solo albums.
1:32:34
It doesn't make any difference.
1:32:36
The, you gotta come back to the, to
1:32:38
the no agenda show.
1:32:39
Cause that's where the real action is.
1:32:41
Mick Jagger had a pretty successful solo career
1:32:43
and, and yeah, but yeah, but why he
1:32:46
doesn't go out on a solo career.
1:32:48
He doesn't pack it at a hundred thousand
1:32:50
people at a, at a time to do
1:32:52
his solo act.
1:32:53
But I get that big advance on the
1:32:54
label deal and I get to do songs
1:32:56
with David Bowie.
1:32:58
So dancing in the streets.
1:33:01
So, I mean, what about my, David Bowie
1:33:03
still alive?
1:33:04
No, he's dead.
1:33:05
But what about my artistic freedom, John?
1:33:08
I mean, this is not all about money.
1:33:09
I mean, I know you think differently, but
1:33:11
for me, it may just, I just may
1:33:13
have to be able to talk about different
1:33:14
things.
1:33:15
That's where you go out and do your,
1:33:16
you know, do your little, uh, other podcasts,
1:33:19
your little 2.0 podcast, your, your, uh,
1:33:22
pedophile podcast.
1:33:24
What are you going to call the pedophile
1:33:26
podcast?
1:33:26
Anyway, I'm not going to do a pedophile
1:33:28
podcast.
1:33:31
That's, that's really, you are setting me up
1:33:33
for failure now by just, by just saying,
1:33:36
that's what it is.
1:33:37
I'm not going to do that.
1:33:39
I'm going to talk about our sick culture.
1:33:42
True crime.
1:33:43
There's the money.
1:33:44
Guess what?
1:33:45
I'm not going to ask you for any
1:33:46
help or any advice.
1:33:48
Uh, you shouldn't.
1:33:51
I wouldn't either.
1:33:54
Speaking of, um, of people who, uh, are
1:33:57
hanging on way too long to their careers
1:33:59
and will say anything to not have to
1:34:01
go out on the road.
1:34:02
All right.
1:34:02
Deadly flash floods in Texas, a ravaging storms
1:34:05
in the Northeast, sweltering heat waves.
1:34:07
And all of this, the path month, the
1:34:10
past month rather has brought a disastrous onslaught
1:34:13
of extreme weather, impacting every aspect of our
1:34:16
lives.
1:34:16
Even music on Wednesday, the Steve Miller band,
1:34:20
uh, an iconic rock star and band, um,
1:34:24
who has been performing since the sixties canceled
1:34:27
his band's long awaited 31 concert North American
1:34:31
tour in an Instagram shared that I'm quoting.
1:34:35
Now the combination of extreme heat, unpredictable flooding,
1:34:39
tornadoes, hurricanes, and massive forest fires make these
1:34:43
risks for you.
1:34:44
Our audience, the band, the crew unacceptable.
1:34:48
You can blame it on the weather.
1:34:49
The tour is canceled.
1:34:51
Okay.
1:34:51
First of all, name two songs by Steve
1:34:54
Miller band.
1:34:55
Can you name two?
1:34:57
Yeah.
1:34:58
Uh, four, uh, Mercury 49, uh, obscure.
1:35:03
Good one.
1:35:04
Well, I used to hear him play it
1:35:05
all the time.
1:35:06
He used to be, he used to play
1:35:07
free every Sunday at the park across from
1:35:11
the police department in Berkeley with them when
1:35:13
he had boss skags as his lead guitarist.
1:35:16
And so every, I saw him a million
1:35:17
times, um, Macho city fly like an Eagle.
1:35:23
Yeah.
1:35:23
Fly like, he's got a bunch of stuff.
1:35:25
Yeah.
1:35:25
He's also unknown to most people.
1:35:29
Abracadabra.
1:35:32
Yeah.
1:35:35
Yeah.
1:35:36
Hold on.
1:35:37
I heard enough as Steve Miller band, Steve
1:35:40
Miller blues band originally.
1:35:42
And a lot of people don't realize he
1:35:44
actually has his own camp.
1:35:46
Yeah.
1:35:47
We see that the Bohemian Grove doesn't surprise
1:35:52
me that he's all into climate change.
1:35:55
He's blaming it on climate change.
1:35:56
He never said climate change.
1:35:58
He said weather, but they all said, they
1:35:59
all...
1:36:01
Well, hold on, hold on.
1:36:03
There's a second part to the story.
1:36:05
CNN's Chief Climate Correspondent Bill Weir is joining
1:36:08
us right now.
1:36:08
I wanna be, here's my new podcast.
1:36:11
It's the Chief Climate Correspondent podcast, everybody.
1:36:14
Bill, that is saying a lot, that weather
1:36:17
is forcing the Steve Miller band to stop
1:36:20
and the tour before it even gets underway.
1:36:24
And you know what?
1:36:25
He has taken a beating online from skeptics
1:36:27
who say, actually it was ticket sales that
1:36:30
made this decision and don't blame the weather
1:36:32
on that.
1:36:33
But this is a very real concern, especially
1:36:35
in the outdoor festival industry.
1:36:37
Ballroom, the big festival in Tennessee for the
1:36:41
second time in the last four years was
1:36:42
canceled because of flooding there.
1:36:44
They haven't announced dates for next year.
1:36:46
That's an ominous sign.
1:36:47
A bunch of smaller festivals have canceled this
1:36:50
year.
1:36:50
And the insurance rates, like you may not
1:36:52
believe Steve Miller or may not believe in
1:36:54
climate change, but insurance companies do.
1:36:55
And they increased prices for promoters becoming prohibited.
1:36:59
This is a real thing.
1:37:02
I hear it from a lot of my
1:37:03
buddies that the insurance for this kind of
1:37:06
calamity, climate calamity is making it unaffordable to
1:37:11
go out on the road.
1:37:12
By the way, the Joker.
1:37:14
Some people call me the space cowboy.
1:37:17
Yeah.
1:37:17
Some call me the gangster of love.
1:37:20
I'm on a jet airliner.
1:37:22
Come on, man.
1:37:23
You gave me obscure references.
1:37:26
Well, that's because that Mercury 49 song, when
1:37:30
you watched him live for years and years
1:37:32
at the free concert he gave every Sunday,
1:37:36
that was always his key song.
1:37:37
And he comes out with an album and
1:37:39
they make it like he's a psychedelic band
1:37:41
when he never was.
1:37:43
They bring out the first album.
1:37:44
That song's not on there.
1:37:46
It's an outrage.
1:37:47
That was always his kicker.
1:37:48
That was the song he finished with.
1:37:50
That was his favorite tune.
1:37:51
It was blues.
1:37:52
It was a blues band.
1:37:53
All of a sudden it became a psychedelic
1:37:55
band.
1:37:55
I found that.
1:37:55
That was ridiculous sellout to the current dad.
1:37:58
I'm going to do a music podcast.
1:38:00
That's what I'm going to do.
1:38:00
You probably should.
1:38:02
So anyway, he has his own camp at
1:38:06
the Bohemian Grove and it's got the biggest
1:38:09
stage, one of the biggest stages in the
1:38:11
whole grove.
1:38:13
And he does concerts for all the Bohemian
1:38:15
guys.
1:38:16
Really?
1:38:17
Yeah.
1:38:18
I've never been to one, but it's supposed
1:38:19
to be pretty spectacular.
1:38:20
Yes, you have been to one.
1:38:21
But you've been to Bohemian Grove.
1:38:23
Yeah, but I didn't go to a Steve
1:38:24
Miller concert.
1:38:25
This place is huge.
1:38:27
It's like a, it's an enclave.
1:38:29
That's a massive, you know, they have stages
1:38:31
all over the place.
1:38:32
It's all just entertainment all the time and
1:38:34
drinking.
1:38:35
It's a bunch of drunks.
1:38:36
You know, you, you are really only a
1:38:38
few meetings away from being in all of
1:38:41
these stories.
1:38:42
I mean, somehow you, you didn't go to
1:38:44
the billionaire dinner.
1:38:46
Yeah, no, I'm, I know what I'm doing.
1:38:48
I'm staying, I'm in good shape.
1:38:51
I'm a lowly podcaster.
1:38:54
Nobody's throwing bricks through the window.
1:38:57
Nobody shoots at me.
1:38:59
So speaking of Bohemian Grove, Bohemian, this is
1:39:02
a new story.
1:39:03
Bohemian Grove workers accused politicians and billionaires of
1:39:07
abuse, bad behavior in wage theft lawsuit.
1:39:12
That's possible.
1:39:14
Yeah, apparently, who was it?
1:39:20
It was some billionaire.
1:39:22
Oh, Coke, one of the Coke brothers, Bill
1:39:24
Coke.
1:39:25
He told one of the, I guess they
1:39:29
have a housekeeping there at Bohemian Grove.
1:39:32
What happened to walking around?
1:39:33
Depends on the camp.
1:39:34
Yeah.
1:39:35
You have to hand wash my underwear.
1:39:38
Then they're very upset about that.
1:39:40
I don't, that story sounds bogus.
1:39:43
You would know.
1:39:45
You've been to the Bohemian Grove, not me.
1:39:47
I don't know anything about it.
1:39:50
Then I guess we should talk about the
1:39:52
big scandal.
1:39:54
This is the big one.
1:39:55
They're gonna pick up Obama, they're gonna throw
1:39:57
him in jail.
1:39:58
Throw him in jail, I tell you.
1:39:59
Tulsi's on the war path.
1:40:01
In my role as the director of national
1:40:03
intelligence, I oversee 18 different intelligence community elements.
1:40:07
And in the months leading up to the
1:40:09
November 2016 election, the intelligence community agreed that
1:40:15
there was no intelligence that reflected that Russia
1:40:18
was trying to hack the election in favor
1:40:21
of either candidate.
1:40:23
The evidence showed, the intelligence showed, that again,
1:40:27
Russia did not have either the intent nor
1:40:29
the capability to be able to impact the
1:40:33
outcome of the United States election.
1:40:35
So it was very striking when we look
1:40:38
back again at the documents that I declassified
1:40:41
and released that shows there was a shift
1:40:43
in early December, the first week of December.
1:40:47
Again, another document was produced by the intelligence
1:40:49
community, a president's daily brief that was consistent
1:40:52
with every other assessment that was done previously
1:40:55
leading up to the election.
1:40:56
Russia was not, did not, this is after
1:40:59
the election now, did not attempt to affect
1:41:03
the outcome of the American election.
1:41:06
That was never published.
1:41:08
Hours before it would have gone into President
1:41:11
Obama's president's daily brief, it was pulled by
1:41:14
a senior level intelligence official saying that they
1:41:17
had to pull it because they had received
1:41:20
new guidance.
1:41:22
The very next day, this meeting was called,
1:41:24
a National Security Council meeting, bringing together all
1:41:28
of the senior leaders of President Obama's cabinet,
1:41:31
and the topic that was put forward was
1:41:33
a sensitive matter.
1:41:35
The tasks that came out of that meeting
1:41:38
was coming from President Obama directing the intelligence
1:41:41
community, then Obama's ODNI Director Clapper, to produce
1:41:46
a document, to produce an intelligence assessment that
1:41:50
detailed not if, but how Moscow affected the
1:41:56
outcome of the election that had already occurred,
1:41:58
electing Donald Trump to the presidency.
1:42:01
This document that they published in January of
1:42:04
2017 was the foundational groundwork that they continued
1:42:09
to reference over and over and over again
1:42:11
to enact this years-long coup against President
1:42:14
Trump.
1:42:15
Tulsi Gabbard needs to be able to explain
1:42:19
this in 30 seconds.
1:42:21
She's doing a horrible job here.
1:42:26
It's like, what?
1:42:26
That's an interesting point.
1:42:28
Like, what?
1:42:29
What did you just say?
1:42:30
What?
1:42:31
Huh?
1:42:32
What did she say?
1:42:32
Yeah, yeah, she's gotta boil this down better.
1:42:35
I mean, this is a good story.
1:42:37
It's a great story.
1:42:38
And she's not the soundbite girl that she
1:42:42
needs to be.
1:42:43
No.
1:42:44
That's a skill.
1:42:45
Yeah, no, she definitely is long-winded, too
1:42:49
complicated, pulling in things that are obscure.
1:42:54
Basically, if we boil it down, they lied.
1:42:58
They knew there was no collusion with Russia
1:43:00
and they launched it anyway and they literally
1:43:03
walked Christopher Steele around to all the media
1:43:08
outlets and said, listen to this guy.
1:43:10
He's back.
1:43:11
What?
1:43:13
Christopher Steele's back.
1:43:14
He's back?
1:43:15
Is he on TV?
1:43:16
He just came out this morning.
1:43:17
He's floating around, doubling down.
1:43:20
No, these are lies about me.
1:43:21
Oh, that's great.
1:43:22
Well, as a reminder, here's Adam Schiff.
1:43:26
The Russians offered help, which we know they
1:43:28
did.
1:43:28
The campaign accepted help, which we know they
1:43:30
did.
1:43:30
The Russians then delivered help, which we know
1:43:32
they did.
1:43:33
There is circumstantial evidence of collusion.
1:43:35
The case is more than that, and I
1:43:37
can't go into the particulars, but there is
1:43:40
more than circumstantial evidence now, so.
1:43:42
You've said on more than one occasion that
1:43:44
you've seen ample evidence of the Trump campaign's
1:43:47
Russia collusion.
1:43:48
Last March, you said you had more than
1:43:50
circumstantial evidence of treasonous collusion with Russia.
1:43:53
I've certainly said that there's ample evidence of
1:43:57
collusion.
1:43:57
Can you agree that there has been no
1:43:59
evidence of collusion coordination or conspiracy that has
1:44:02
been presented thus far between the Trump campaign
1:44:04
and Russia?
1:44:06
No, I don't agree with that at all.
1:44:08
I think there's plenty of evidence of collusion
1:44:10
or conspiracy.
1:44:11
But we do know this.
1:44:13
The Russians offered help.
1:44:14
The campaign accepted help.
1:44:16
The Russians gave help, and the president made
1:44:18
full use of that help, and that is
1:44:20
pretty damning.
1:44:21
Any collusion?
1:44:23
Yeah.
1:44:26
It's going nowhere.
1:44:28
It's a good story, but they're not rolling
1:44:30
it out right.
1:44:33
I agree.
1:44:35
I agree that they're not rolling it out
1:44:37
right, and she's not doing the job she
1:44:38
should be.
1:44:39
I mean, I think it's admirable that she's
1:44:41
done this in the first place.
1:44:43
Yeah.
1:44:44
And she's named names, and she's got everybody
1:44:47
kind of cornered, and everyone's freaking out about
1:44:49
it, but it's just not being done right.
1:44:52
I don't know if they're even freaking out
1:44:53
about it, because it's, you know, it's...
1:44:56
There's some freaking out about it, because they
1:44:58
got Steele back.
1:44:59
He's coming back, and then they're going on
1:45:01
and on.
1:45:01
I've seen her two or three people come
1:45:02
on and say, well, she's, you know, what
1:45:04
she's saying is not quite true, because she's
1:45:06
conflating this with that.
1:45:08
Well, it sounds like she is.
1:45:09
And then they keep bringing up the Facebook.
1:45:10
Facebook got tons and tons of, and Facebook,
1:45:14
we already know the Facebook story.
1:45:15
They got $100,000 worth of ads, which
1:45:18
is nothing.
1:45:19
I think I have that here.
1:45:20
Hold on a second.
1:45:22
And the ads were lame.
1:45:24
Yeah.
1:45:24
But they were funny.
1:45:25
Wasn't it like 650 bucks worth or something
1:45:28
at the end of the day?
1:45:29
It was like nothing.
1:45:30
They just dropped.
1:45:31
It was like somebody's pocket change.
1:45:33
Where was that?
1:45:34
I know I had the, I had the
1:45:37
clips.
1:45:38
But you had a number of clips about
1:45:39
what they did at Facebook.
1:45:40
No, but I had a recent one.
1:45:42
Let me just see.
1:45:43
Oh, a recent one.
1:45:43
Yeah, it was one of these, what was
1:45:45
it, this morning thing.
1:45:47
Hold on, let me see.
1:45:48
That's the hoax, Epstein.
1:45:50
So much Epstein, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
1:45:54
Hmm, no, I can't find it.
1:45:57
I was sure, oh, maybe it was here.
1:45:59
Hold on.
1:46:03
No, no.
1:46:04
I don't know where it is.
1:46:06
I don't know where it is.
1:46:11
Jeez.
1:46:12
Well, it might pop up somewhere.
1:46:14
I don't know.
1:46:15
I had it where some guy was going
1:46:17
on.
1:46:17
Well, here, she was on Maria Bartiromo.
1:46:19
I was told that that's why they raided
1:46:22
Mar-a-Lago, that they wanted to find
1:46:24
- Why are you yelling?
1:46:26
The Trump-Russia documents that indicated there was
1:46:29
absolutely no collusion and that there was no
1:46:32
evidence to even start such an investigation, but
1:46:35
Trump didn't have it there in Mar-a
1:46:37
-Lago, but that's why they raided his house
1:46:39
in 2022.
1:46:41
Yeah, okay.
1:46:42
That was probably true.
1:46:45
Yeah, it could be true.
1:46:46
Yeah, it could be true, yeah.
1:46:48
Something was up.
1:46:49
Yeah.
1:46:50
Hey, what's this 988 stuff you got?
1:46:52
I've been looking at it all day, and
1:46:54
people should know, John sends me his clips
1:46:56
in the morning.
1:46:57
I don't listen to him.
1:46:58
I look at him because I put him
1:47:00
into a little JCD clips bin, but I
1:47:03
want to be just as surprised as you
1:47:05
are or just as disturbed.
1:47:07
Well, I was surprised about it too because
1:47:09
I didn't know anything about this.
1:47:11
I should have.
1:47:12
I know we both should have about 988.
1:47:15
You know, you can dial 988 on the
1:47:17
phone.
1:47:18
Oh, is this the transgender helpline?
1:47:22
Well, no.
1:47:22
It's a mental health hotline that had some
1:47:27
transgender stuff, but they blasted...
1:47:30
The whole thing makes no sense when you
1:47:32
listen to this report.
1:47:33
It's a bunch of short clips.
1:47:35
I think one's long, but let's play these
1:47:37
clips.
1:47:38
A few years ago, I started seeing these
1:47:40
signs posted all over my city, in the
1:47:43
metro, in public places, sharing this three-digit
1:47:47
phone number, 988.
1:47:49
That is the National Suicide and Crisis Lifeline.
1:47:52
And it was launched on this day, exactly
1:47:54
three years ago.
1:47:56
When you call the line...
1:47:57
You've reached the 988 Suicide and Crisis Lifeline.
1:48:01
The first thing you hear is a prerecorded
1:48:02
message.
1:48:03
Para español, marque el numero dos.
1:48:06
Options to connect to specialized support for populations
1:48:09
at high risk of suicide.
1:48:11
If you are a veteran or service member
1:48:13
or are calling about one, press one.
1:48:16
To connect to support for LGBTQI+, youth
1:48:20
and young adults, press three.
1:48:23
Last month, the Trump administration announced it was
1:48:25
canceling funding for a 988 LGBTQI-plus service.
1:48:30
That service alone has received over a million
1:48:32
contacts.
1:48:34
Otherwise, to talk with a counselor, stay on
1:48:37
the line or press zero.
1:48:38
And then what happens is that using nearby
1:48:40
cell phone towers, the system routes your call
1:48:43
through an existing network of 200 local and
1:48:46
state-funded crisis centers and connects you to
1:48:48
a trained crisis counselor who works in your
1:48:50
area.
1:48:51
That person picks up the phone and listens.
1:48:54
Since launch, the line has been contacted millions
1:48:57
of times through calls, texts, and the 988
1:49:01
chat box.
1:49:02
And a new study led by researchers at
1:49:04
NYU and Johns Hopkins estimates that 1.6
1:49:08
% of the U.S. population use the
1:49:10
line between July of 2022 and December of
1:49:13
2024.
1:49:14
Oh, okay, now I know what the story
1:49:16
is.
1:49:17
They canceled option number three.
1:49:20
Yeah, but when you listen to the whole
1:49:22
presentation, it's bull crap.
1:49:26
They never really cancel anything.
1:49:28
Oh, okay, clip two.
1:49:30
The Trevor Project takes care of the whole
1:49:32
deal and they still pass it on.
1:49:35
It doesn't mean, this is just a typical
1:49:38
NPR lame attempt or PBS does NPR, NPR,
1:49:44
I think.
1:49:44
It's NPR.
1:49:45
It says NPR, but I get mixed up,
1:49:47
as you know.
1:49:47
When you play the jingle, it explains it.
1:49:50
I was not at Bohemian Grove.
1:49:52
I was at a different camp.
1:49:55
I wanna talk about 911.
1:49:57
A previous generation, my parents, myself too, was
1:50:01
taught to call 911 for any crisis, including
1:50:04
a mental health crisis.
1:50:05
How is a call to 988 for those
1:50:08
crises different?
1:50:10
Yeah, 988 is part of a broader crisis
1:50:13
continuum, right?
1:50:15
Right, right, right, right.
1:50:17
These are people who are trained specifically to
1:50:21
deal with mental health crises.
1:50:24
The 988 counselors will almost surely be familiar
1:50:28
with those services and those teams.
1:50:30
They may be able to deploy those teams
1:50:32
to you directly and stay on the phone
1:50:34
with you while those teams are on their
1:50:37
way.
1:50:38
So sure, in some places, somebody would call
1:50:40
911 and perhaps that 911 center knows about
1:50:44
a mobile crisis response team in that same
1:50:47
region and they deploy that team as opposed
1:50:49
to just deploying ambulance or police.
1:50:52
I think in general, 988 centers have a
1:50:55
much richer knowledge and better relationships with mobile
1:50:59
crisis response teams and other kind of alternative
1:51:02
response models, as they're called, that can be
1:51:05
deployed, right?
1:51:08
Let's see, okay.
1:51:10
Okay.
1:51:10
Okay.
1:51:11
So this is the clip that got me,
1:51:14
it triggered me to figuring out what is,
1:51:17
why are they even doing this?
1:51:19
What is the rationale?
1:51:20
What do you think, what kind of propaganda
1:51:22
are they trying to slip?
1:51:24
What NLP kind of mechanism are they using?
1:51:27
What sort of subtext are they telling us
1:51:30
here with this bull crap?
1:51:31
Trump hates trans kids.
1:51:34
Well, no.
1:51:35
Well, that, maybe, but no.
1:51:38
This is the lead into, oh, you know,
1:51:41
we need more social workers and less police.
1:51:43
Let's defund the police and let's have more
1:51:45
social workers because 988 is better than 911
1:51:49
when you have a mental problem and most
1:51:51
crime is a mental problem.
1:51:53
So you have people that are out there
1:51:54
creating crimes, but all they need is a
1:51:56
hug.
1:51:58
Wow.
1:51:59
Clip three.
1:52:00
Yeah.
1:52:01
Whereas folks in 911 centers might have less
1:52:05
knowledge about those services.
1:52:07
And you and your colleagues, you set out
1:52:08
to determine a number of questions related to
1:52:10
who is calling 988.
1:52:12
And I wanna talk to you about the
1:52:13
piece you published in the journal JAMA Network
1:52:16
Open, where during a 30 month period, you
1:52:19
found more than 16 million calls, texts and
1:52:22
chats reached 988.
1:52:24
And one finding that stood out to us
1:52:26
was just the fact that 11% of
1:52:28
the contacts came from veterans who were then
1:52:31
transferred to the Veterans Crisis Line.
1:52:34
Do you have any further comment about the
1:52:36
fact that 11% of the contacts were
1:52:39
from veterans?
1:52:40
I think it can be perceived as a
1:52:43
positive finding.
1:52:44
The Veterans Crisis Line had existed for a
1:52:48
while, but I think the public facing communication
1:52:53
and marketing about the Veterans Crisis Line, probably
1:52:55
not as intense as the communications about 988.
1:53:00
So there are probably many veterans who didn't
1:53:01
really know about the Veterans Crisis Line and
1:53:03
learned about 988 and felt in crisis and
1:53:06
called and were very pleasantly surprised perhaps to
1:53:10
hear that option for pressing one.
1:53:12
And looking at the data, you found geographic
1:53:15
differences too, that some places in the US
1:53:18
were using 988 more than others.
1:53:20
What did you find?
1:53:21
Yeah, healthcare in general, but I would say
1:53:24
especially mental healthcare and policy is very state
1:53:28
-driven in the United States.
1:53:30
And within some states, there is also a
1:53:33
lot, it's county-driven, right?
1:53:35
So then we have county variation within states.
1:53:38
So we found that rates of 988 use
1:53:42
were much lower in the Southern parts of
1:53:45
the United States.
1:53:47
Okay.
1:53:49
Yeah, because in the Southern part of the
1:53:52
United States, they're not nuts.
1:53:55
Well, at least they're not the same kind
1:53:57
of nuts.
1:53:57
Well, we do have a lot of veterans
1:53:59
who need mental health.
1:54:01
Yeah, they probably get their care elsewhere because
1:54:04
that's brought up in, what clip are we
1:54:05
on?
1:54:06
The four.
1:54:07
Yes, please.
1:54:08
So when we ranked all the states in
1:54:10
terms of their rate of 988 use, really
1:54:13
big states like Florida and Texas were down
1:54:16
there at the very bottom.
1:54:18
And we don't really know the why from
1:54:19
our data, but we can speculate.
1:54:21
In prior work and work of others, we
1:54:24
found that more conservative folks generally report in
1:54:28
survey-based work being less likely to use
1:54:33
something like 988 and being less supportive of
1:54:37
it.
1:54:37
It might be a matter of values and
1:54:40
a matter of experience that in more conservative
1:54:44
parts of the US, there might be more
1:54:46
skepticism towards mental health treatment and counselors in
1:54:51
general.
1:54:52
Now, you did a really interesting second study
1:54:54
that was published in Health Affairs.
1:54:56
So what we did, we asked these 5
1:54:58
,000 US adults.
1:55:00
So we fielded this survey and we presented
1:55:03
people with- By the way, this guy's
1:55:05
voice is the opposite of that guy from
1:55:07
Tennessee.
1:55:09
This guy's voice is bad.
1:55:12
By the way, I deserve an award for
1:55:14
editing this clip.
1:55:15
No, I can hear your edits and yes,
1:55:17
they are good.
1:55:18
Adults.
1:55:19
So we fielded this survey and we presented
1:55:21
people with the question of, if you or
1:55:24
a loved one were experiencing suicidality or a
1:55:27
mental health crisis, how likely would you be
1:55:29
to turn to each one of these sources?
1:55:31
And we listed five sources, 988, which we
1:55:34
defined for them briefly in the survey, a
1:55:36
crisis line other than 988, a mental health
1:55:39
professional, like a psychologist or a social worker
1:55:42
or a psychiatrist, a friend or a family
1:55:45
member or someone in your religious network, right?
1:55:47
So we asked them this question and we
1:55:49
had them rate these things on a seven
1:55:50
-point Likert scale.
1:55:51
We found these five different groups.
1:55:53
And what were those five types of groups?
1:55:56
So we had this group that we called
1:55:57
Seek Help Nowhere.
1:55:59
We had this group we called Definitely Not
1:56:01
988, Yes, Friends and Family Distressed.
1:56:04
A group we called Seek Help Everywhere.
1:56:07
Group we called Seek Help Most Places, but
1:56:09
Not Religious Network.
1:56:11
And finally, a group we called Relatively Indifferent,
1:56:14
Not Distressed.
1:56:15
I found it interesting that the Definitely Not
1:56:18
988, but Yes, Friends and Family Distressed group
1:56:21
had the highest levels of recent psychological distress.
1:56:25
Why is that?
1:56:26
Oh, man.
1:56:27
I would say around here, people go to
1:56:29
the church.
1:56:30
They have all kinds of resources at the
1:56:32
church, including mental health people.
1:56:37
Well, it sounds a little fishy, their study.
1:56:39
The whole thing, it went on longer and
1:56:41
they went on and on and on and
1:56:42
on.
1:56:43
They're just trying to promote, but I think
1:56:45
the real subtext and the real message is
1:56:47
that these services are out there and they're
1:56:50
good, they work, and that we should have,
1:56:54
we should defund the police.
1:56:55
They never say that.
1:56:57
But that's worth it.
1:56:57
But when the segment where they talked about
1:56:59
9-1-1 versus 9-8-8, that
1:57:02
was the kicker.
1:57:03
That was like calling the cops if somebody's
1:57:06
freaking out, they're gonna jump off the ledge
1:57:09
or call a 9-8-8.
1:57:14
So, yes, that was that.
1:57:15
Now you have, you went from four to
1:57:17
six, so that's number five, I guess.
1:57:22
Well, let's talk also about the fact that
1:57:24
the Trump administration has cut funding to the
1:57:26
LGBTQI plus youth service of the line.
1:57:30
That is set to go away on Thursday,
1:57:33
July 17th.
1:57:33
So there you go.
1:57:36
What they did is they said it should
1:57:37
just be folded into the rest.
1:57:39
That's what they did, but okay.
1:57:41
17th, once that option goes away, what kind
1:57:44
of specialized mental health?
1:57:45
Here's what I don't understand.
1:57:47
I thought maybe I'm misunderstanding the service, but
1:57:52
I thought that as long as you let
1:57:55
your son become your daughter, they wouldn't commit
1:57:58
suicide.
1:57:58
If you didn't do that, that's when they
1:58:00
would commit suicide.
1:58:03
Wasn't that the big selling point?
1:58:05
That was the basic thesis.
1:58:07
Yeah, so.
1:58:08
Yeah, would you rather have a live daughter
1:58:10
or a dead son?
1:58:12
Support will still exist for LGBTQI plus young
1:58:16
people.
1:58:17
I think the silver lining is pre-988,
1:58:21
the Trevor Project has existed and will continue
1:58:24
to exist, and they have funding from other
1:58:29
sources as well.
1:58:30
That will remain an option.
1:58:31
Right, and for anyone who doesn't know, the
1:58:33
Trevor Project was one of the groups providing
1:58:35
24-7 support for 988 LGBTQI plus callers.
1:58:40
They handled about half of the contacts from
1:58:42
this group of people.
1:58:44
So zooming back out, just as we close,
1:58:47
what message do you think it sends that
1:58:49
988 does exist?
1:58:51
What does it do?
1:58:52
Yeah, no, I think it does a few
1:58:54
things.
1:58:54
I mean, one, I think it normalizes the
1:58:58
fact that humans experience feelings of crisis and
1:59:02
suicidality, and that the federal government supports this
1:59:07
lifeline or the safety net.
1:59:11
Suicidality.
1:59:12
Okay, so here's the, so she mentions the
1:59:15
Trevor Project, which I guess was already picking
1:59:19
up the calls from 988, and it will
1:59:22
continue to do so.
1:59:23
So it's got nothing to do with Trump.
1:59:25
It was a gratuitous slam, oh, Trump took
1:59:27
this away and that away.
1:59:28
He didn't take anything away.
1:59:30
He took officially, he took it out of
1:59:33
the process, but it was always covered by,
1:59:35
it's like the veteran stuff, which is covered
1:59:37
by various veterans groups, and they just pass
1:59:40
it on to them, and they go take
1:59:41
care of it, and they pass it on
1:59:42
to the Trevor group.
1:59:43
So this was a bogus story that served
1:59:45
two purposes.
1:59:46
One, to slam Trump, which is all NPR
1:59:49
wants to do, slam Trump A and defund
1:59:52
the police.
1:59:53
That was the whole point of it.
1:59:56
So that's what 988, so I just thought
1:59:58
it was an interesting propagandistic mechanism used for
2:00:04
a dual purpose.
2:00:04
Well, let's look at some more of that
2:00:06
propagandistic, i.e. advertising.
2:00:09
By the way, we didn't talk about it
2:00:11
in the last show, but there was a
2:00:12
pretty big story that GLP-1 drugs, your
2:00:17
Ozempic, et cetera, apparently now boosts testosterone levels.
2:00:22
We're getting so close to ED.
2:00:25
We're getting very, very, very close.
2:00:26
Your basic, that you're hoping.
2:00:28
Getting very close to erectile dysfunction solved by
2:00:33
Ozempic.
2:00:34
But this- You saved the best for
2:00:35
last.
2:00:38
Well, yeah, eventually, yeah.
2:00:39
That'll be the kicker.
2:00:40
Yeah, you roll it.
2:00:41
This is a rolling process.
2:00:42
You roll out your marketing mechanisms one after
2:00:46
the other.
2:00:46
You don't do it all at once.
2:00:48
Well, so- You can't shoot your wad.
2:00:53
So I was blown away by this story.
2:01:00
President Trump was talking about, hey, you know,
2:01:03
Coke's gonna put sugar back into Coca-Cola.
2:01:06
And so, of course, we have to not
2:01:08
only discredit sugar, but listen to where this
2:01:11
Big Pharma report from CNN with Dr. Elizabeth
2:01:15
Komen really leads to.
2:01:17
All right, more young women than ever are
2:01:20
getting breast cancer.
2:01:21
And there's a lot of advice online about
2:01:23
- What could it be?
2:01:25
What changed in the last five years?
2:01:27
I'm puzzled.
2:01:28
What can and cannot help to prevent it.
2:01:31
Are they myths or is there real science
2:01:34
behind them?
2:01:35
CNN's Sarah Seidner sat down with oncologist and
2:01:38
author Dr. Elizabeth Komen to find the truth
2:01:41
about cancer prevention.
2:01:45
Probably once a week, I hear someone say
2:01:48
to me, you know, sugar feeds cancer.
2:01:52
You really shouldn't eat that.
2:01:54
Is that true?
2:01:56
Sugar is not like going into the cancer
2:01:58
and feeding it, right?
2:02:00
It's like this one-way train with that
2:02:02
M&M that you put in your mouth.
2:02:03
And that also puts a lot of blame
2:02:05
on the patient.
2:02:06
What's in your mouth?
2:02:07
An M&M.
2:02:07
That being said, excessive sugar can lead to
2:02:10
excessive weight.
2:02:11
It can change your metabolic function.
2:02:13
And we know that that is not good
2:02:15
overall as being what's called a host to
2:02:18
cancer.
2:02:18
So cancer cells are living in your body
2:02:20
and we wanna make them inhospitable.
2:02:23
We wanna make your body and the environment
2:02:24
around it less hospitable to cancers.
2:02:28
So did you hear it?
2:02:29
Did you catch it?
2:02:32
Probably not, but maybe, what?
2:02:33
Okay, well, so there's two more clips here,
2:02:36
but, you know, well, sugar, you know, is
2:02:38
sugar is like, you know, it's not feeding
2:02:41
the cancer, but it can add to your
2:02:42
weight.
2:02:43
I asked a couple of different oncologists, is
2:02:48
there a cancer diet?
2:02:49
And I was told no twice, except when
2:02:53
it came to drinking alcohol.
2:02:56
Three oncologists said, do not drink alcohol.
2:03:01
I'm confused.
2:03:02
Is there a cancer diet or not?
2:03:04
If they're not supposed to drink alcohol, it
2:03:06
seems- Why are you yelling?
2:03:07
I mean, there's gotta be something to do
2:03:09
with nutrition.
2:03:10
It's a great, great question.
2:03:11
I'll tell you what I think- Oh,
2:03:13
oh, whoa.
2:03:15
That was not a great question.
2:03:17
What was it?
2:03:18
That was a great, great question.
2:03:20
I've never heard that before.
2:03:21
I thought you'd like that.
2:03:22
Supposed to drink alcohol, it seems to me
2:03:23
that there's gotta be something to do with
2:03:25
nutrition.
2:03:26
It's a great, great question.
2:03:27
I'll tell you what I think we know,
2:03:29
and then we'll hit the alcohol point as
2:03:31
well.
2:03:31
So we do know that maintaining more of
2:03:34
a plant-forward diet with less processed foods,
2:03:37
and what is processed foods?
2:03:38
I mean, there are all these quizzes online
2:03:40
about, is it processed?
2:03:40
Is it not processed?
2:03:42
In general, if it's got artificial dyes in
2:03:45
it, it's more likely to be processed.
2:03:46
If you can't pronounce a laundry list of
2:03:48
ingredients there, it's more likely to be processed
2:03:51
than not.
2:03:51
You want to think about whole foods, whole
2:03:54
grains, real foods, and limiting especially processed red
2:03:59
meats, the processed deli meats, the processed salami,
2:04:02
the pepperoni, things like that.
2:04:05
The other piece that we know that can
2:04:06
be helpful is alcohol.
2:04:08
We know that it's a carcinogen.
2:04:10
We know that there's an association.
2:04:12
The more you drink, the higher your risk.
2:04:14
However, this is not the same risk as
2:04:16
having a genetic mutation that leads to an
2:04:20
85% increased risk of cancer over your
2:04:22
lifetime.
2:04:23
But people ask me all the time, what
2:04:24
can I do that's within my control?
2:04:26
You can't control what your family history is.
2:04:28
You can control what you put in your
2:04:30
mouth and how you exercise and what you
2:04:32
drink.
2:04:33
And so we do know that there is
2:04:35
an increased association, not only with breast cancer,
2:04:38
but other types of cancers from alcohol consumption,
2:04:41
because it is a direct carcinogen.
2:04:43
Okay, so, and here I am like, wow,
2:04:45
you're talking about alcohol causing cancer.
2:04:48
And that was all just to keep me
2:04:51
going throughout this commercial message, because here is
2:04:55
where they bring it all home and they
2:04:56
bring it around to the first clip.
2:04:58
Does being overweight or being obese make you
2:05:01
more susceptible to cancer?
2:05:03
It does.
2:05:04
It does.
2:05:05
So we know that obesity, like tobacco consumption
2:05:09
or alcohol consumption is one modifiable risk factor.
2:05:13
It's just like drinking.
2:05:14
Or cancer.
2:05:15
But we know that it can also be
2:05:17
a tremendous battle to fight, right?
2:05:20
And so it's something that we really want
2:05:22
patients to talk openly with their doctors about,
2:05:25
about what are their options.
2:05:26
What are my options?
2:05:28
I'm overweight, what are my options?
2:05:30
Can I talk to you openly about that,
2:05:31
doctor?
2:05:32
What are their lifestyle options?
2:05:33
What are the medication options that they might
2:05:34
be able to have?
2:05:35
So that they can start to decrease their
2:05:38
risk from that excess weight.
2:05:39
Oh my God, this is my fault.
2:05:40
Like that's the first thing that jumped into
2:05:42
my head when I heard that.
2:05:43
Shame around that, that I think we have
2:05:45
to really just manage it and compassionately give
2:05:48
patients their options.
2:05:49
Their options.
2:05:50
Which is gonna be Ozempic.
2:05:52
Let's just shoot these two people.
2:05:55
Where'd you get this horrible clip?
2:05:57
That was CNN.
2:06:00
CNN.
2:06:01
Oh my, this is a native ad.
2:06:02
Yes.
2:06:03
Although it's done in a horrible wet manner.
2:06:06
It's a category ad.
2:06:07
It also brings the temperance thing back.
2:06:09
There's this alcohol nonsense.
2:06:11
By the way, when it comes to processed
2:06:14
foods, here's my tip.
2:06:16
Anything that has a barcode or comes in
2:06:18
a bag should not be consumed.
2:06:21
That's your processed food right there.
2:06:25
I have a, since you brought it back.
2:06:27
They have barcodes on peaches.
2:06:30
They stick them on.
2:06:31
We got a bunch of, we have a
2:06:32
lot of illegal aliens that work at the
2:06:34
produce place and they stick an individual little
2:06:37
barcode on each peach.
2:06:38
They had, the illegal aliens have a barcode,
2:06:41
I hear.
2:06:41
They stick them on them.
2:06:42
Yeah, it's on their butt.
2:06:43
So you brought back a segment and I'm
2:06:47
going to reintroduce it again.
2:06:49
This is the side effects.
2:06:51
Side effects.
2:06:52
Yeah.
2:06:55
You ready?
2:06:56
One of the great segments of The New
2:06:57
Agenda Show.
2:06:58
Here we go.
2:06:59
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2:07:12
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2:07:15
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Yeah, I'm sad about that too, but they
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They don't want you to hear it.
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Good point.
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We've been doing it for over 17 years.
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See if that works better, run ads.
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I mean, you might as well, that way
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Yeah, pharma ads, you know, get all kinds
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Tina was listening to- They're going to
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Life's been good to us so far.
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We titled that Circularity.
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And this was a good one.
2:11:47
This was a Scaramanga original, which he also,
2:11:50
did you see him animate it later on
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X?
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He had an animated version of this.
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No, I missed it.
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Yeah, where, so this is, Scaramanga did a
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Annie with what we believe to be, might
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be a typical Annie user.
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And they're sitting on the couch together.
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And in the animated version, Annie gets up
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his huge sandwich and just chomps it down.
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A Scaramanga man, it must have cost him
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$20 in credits.
2:12:23
I wonder what that does cost him.
2:12:26
I mean, Well, just ask him, he'll tell
2:12:28
you.
2:12:28
Scaramanga, what does it cost to animate something
2:12:30
like that?
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Because you know, he started off with the
2:12:33
animation of us and the podcast awards.
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And that must have cost him a lot
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of money.
2:12:38
I mean, I don't know what it is.
2:12:39
Well, maybe he's rolling in dough.
2:12:41
No, maybe he is.
2:12:42
Or maybe he's got a thing going on
2:12:43
where he's getting it free.
2:12:45
That's possible.
2:12:46
No, no, well, eventually it won't be free.
2:12:49
It was a good piece though.
2:12:50
At least it was the best one.
2:12:53
There were some other ones.
2:12:54
Let me see.
2:12:55
There was something I liked that you just
2:12:57
hated.
2:12:58
And we had to, let me see.
2:13:01
They go to Noah Jeff.
2:13:03
Noah Artgenerator.com is where people upload all
2:13:06
of their artwork for every single show.
2:13:08
I mean, where people put their prompted artwork
2:13:11
up.
2:13:12
Oh, I liked the dingbat Annie.
2:13:13
You didn't like that one.
2:13:15
Yeah, I did.
2:13:16
You're right.
2:13:17
I just thought it was horrible looking.
2:13:19
Oh, okay.
2:13:20
Well, see, you hated it, I told you.
2:13:22
It was horrible.
2:13:23
I didn't hate it.
2:13:24
That was it.
2:13:25
I'm not a hater.
2:13:26
There was a lot, for some reason, Richard
2:13:28
Page decided to put a lot of cell
2:13:29
phones in drawers.
2:13:30
I'm not sure.
2:13:31
We didn't talk about it.
2:13:34
There was you on OAN, which was horrible.
2:13:40
I love it when people go on X
2:13:42
say, yeah, I made a Coldplay version of
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you and John.
2:13:48
It's like, not even close.
2:13:52
It's horrible.
2:13:54
Not even close.
2:13:56
It's amazing.
2:13:57
Everything is so boring.
2:13:59
AI has killed art.
2:14:03
All you do is complain.
2:14:04
Yes, because it's killing art.
2:14:06
I liked the fat guy in the anime
2:14:08
girl.
2:14:09
That was okay.
2:14:11
I mean, you could have done that with
2:14:12
Photoshop.
2:14:13
You didn't need to do AI.
2:14:15
This is absolutely true, but it would have
2:14:18
taken a lot longer.
2:14:19
That's the key.
2:14:20
That's what they're talking about.
2:14:22
That's what they've done.
2:14:23
They've caved to a time constraints.
2:14:27
People used to spend the whole show working
2:14:29
on art.
2:14:30
And then when they see people come along
2:14:31
and just prompt something like screw, I'm not
2:14:33
doing this if I'm not getting chosen.
2:14:36
I get it.
2:14:37
It makes total sense.
2:14:39
Well, thank you, Scaramanga.
2:14:41
Good job.
2:14:42
It was certainly the best piece.
2:14:44
And again, it all comes down to the
2:14:46
concept, no matter how you execute it.
2:14:48
Oh, and by the way, he also is
2:14:48
on that little, on the pennant back there.
2:14:50
Yeah.
2:14:51
He's got that little phrase that we talked
2:14:53
about.
2:14:53
Yes, I saw that, yes.
2:14:54
I mean- Very cute.
2:14:55
Yeah, that was cool.
2:14:56
That was cool.
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from the from the meetup yes and one
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He's in Albany actually, California.
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He's very wish he found it sooner.
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I've donated and he's got a number here
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That's pretty astonishing, and we'll talk about that
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and then the next one which is a
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long note But it's about elevators and worth
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reading and this is from the meetup is
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$350 from Lawrence Wolfe and he's in Oakland.
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Mm-hmm And this is a I read
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I saw there's no I said off too
2:21:00
long I'm not gonna read this and I
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started reading it Well say this is the
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kind of information you can get on the
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no agenda show and nowhere else I as
2:21:12
an Elevator mechanic with over 18 years of
2:21:16
experience.
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I wanted to come comment on Adams trip
2:21:19
to New York Ah, it is a major
2:21:21
observation the automated elevators.
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Yes the mode of elevator dispatching that your
2:21:26
experience is known as destination dispatch Wow, yeah,
2:21:32
the idea has been around for a long
2:21:33
time I remember was in diehard 1988 when
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John McLean walks into a then the Nakatomi
2:21:40
Plaza looks up to his wife's address and
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kiosk and is then directed to the proper
2:21:45
elevator Its purpose is people flow control and
2:21:49
security It makes sense at the locate at
2:21:52
locations such as hotels and higher security office
2:21:54
buildings.
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Yes, it negates the need for a Car
2:21:59
call button as you are directed by the
2:22:01
hall dispatch controller Only one button is that
2:22:06
the lobby is the lobby call button?
2:22:08
I seem to remember John saying that maybe
2:22:11
the reason for it was to prevent kids
2:22:13
from pushing all the buttons Now this is
2:22:17
where this is the most interesting part of
2:22:19
the note Nobody knows this This is actually
2:22:24
prevented by another feature known as anti-nuisance
2:22:29
The elevator has a sensor known as a
2:22:32
load weigher That determines how much capacity has
2:22:35
been attained in the car if too many
2:22:37
buttons are pushed for the load Detected by
2:22:40
the load weigher the controller will cancel those
2:22:43
placed calls Some you know, they weigh and
2:22:49
they say wait, there's not a hundred people
2:22:50
on this thing and I hope this elevated
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your Understanding he says as a pun He's
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sir Lawrence of dystopia the baronet of Maxwell
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Park.
2:23:00
Well, it's kind of interesting because I got
2:23:02
a note two shows ago from one of
2:23:06
our producers a second and he Had a
2:23:10
different explanation for the by the way It
2:23:13
is of course bullcrap because you have to
2:23:15
press instead of pressing one button and then
2:23:17
a button on the inside you have to
2:23:20
Say I want to go somewhere then you
2:23:22
have to type in the floor you want
2:23:24
to go to so it's at minimum It's
2:23:26
one extra button push And let me see
2:23:30
if I can find this It was one
2:23:33
of our one of our producers I think
2:23:36
in Australia and he said no no the
2:23:39
reason for this is so that They can
2:23:43
put in less elevators which costs which is
2:23:46
a huge cost savings So yes, it does
2:23:50
help traffic flow a little bit But only
2:23:53
so it really doesn't give you any benefit
2:23:55
It just the the benefit is they don't
2:23:57
have to put in six elevators.
2:23:58
They can put in four elevators So it
2:24:02
doesn't really save you any time Whatever the
2:24:08
case.
2:24:09
Yes, whatever the case exactly.
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It's a joke.
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Yeah, it is Uh, sir Kojen, maybe he
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came in with 350.
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Thank you very much.
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Crashing all over the place crashing crashing crashing
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crashing crashing What you got JCV what else
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got a couple of things on the list
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So what do you got like and not
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you play this the juice clip?
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I'm always thinking she's that poor woman.
2:34:00
She should have been back.
2:34:01
She should they should have kept her on
2:34:03
on juice on this on the the home
2:34:08
shopping You're right.
2:34:11
I forgot about that Cancer research cut back
2:34:14
and this is another one of these things
2:34:15
Oh Trump Trump Trump Trump's fault.
2:34:19
Yeah, the industry does not want to pick
2:34:21
up the tab for them Where the the
2:34:24
research the taxpayers pay for and they benefit
2:34:26
from we don't benefit from it.
2:34:28
We get charged money Yes, the taxpayers get
2:34:32
nothing out of this They get gypped and
2:34:34
meanwhile the which is a term that the
2:34:36
gypsies were named after not the other way
2:34:38
around so I can say gypped We get
2:34:41
gypped and and nobody picked nobody steps up
2:34:45
We have to step up the taxpayers have
2:34:47
to step up for everything is bullcrap We
2:34:49
had a note from one of our producers
2:34:51
going about yeah, you take on this.
2:34:53
Yes your take in particular.
2:34:54
I think yeah Well, my take is what
2:34:56
you just heard.
2:34:57
I'm not Changing you're not changing it Listen
2:34:59
to the PBS take for decades the National
2:35:03
Cancer Institute or NCI has spearheaded breakthrough advancements
2:35:08
against the disease Since the 1990s cancer deaths
2:35:11
have been reduced by a third Uplifting report
2:35:14
you got here Joe, but now the world's
2:35:17
premier Cancer Institute is in the midst of
2:35:19
a fierce battle over its future William Brangham
2:35:22
spoke with the retina Prada on of KFF
2:35:25
health news Ruchina Pradhan, thank you so much
2:35:28
for being here Can you help us understand
2:35:31
the scale of the cuts that are being
2:35:33
made at the National Cancer Institute?
2:35:35
And are they falling in particular areas or
2:35:37
regions of that Institute based on what we
2:35:40
have heard from?
2:35:41
scientists who are currently still at NCI and
2:35:45
ones who have left is that the Cuts
2:35:48
and the upheaval overall that is happening to
2:35:51
this agency are unprecedented They have never seen
2:35:54
anything like it there are people who are
2:35:57
leaving and also being cut that work on
2:36:00
various aspects of cancer research and Communication and
2:36:04
the second thing is research money is being
2:36:07
cut at NCI and across the board at
2:36:09
the NIH So what you're seeing is very
2:36:11
rapid escalation in the amount of money that
2:36:15
is being trimmed For studying all sorts of
2:36:18
in their interventions right to reduce cancer mortality
2:36:20
and morbidity in this country How does the
2:36:22
Trump administration explain that hold on a second?
2:36:26
We just heard that if you stop drinking
2:36:28
alcohol and take ozempic, you're gonna be okay
2:36:32
What more research something else she said in
2:36:35
that little bit which was Research and Communication.
2:36:42
No, this is about the cuts of the
2:36:44
PR people marketing.
2:36:46
Yeah the marketing people Hmm We've heard this
2:36:51
before because I think when Kennedy came in
2:36:54
if they didn't like the way they were
2:36:56
messaging and they were doing Websites and they
2:36:58
were telling people of this and that and
2:36:59
the other thing and they got rid of
2:37:00
most of the PR people I mean the
2:37:02
State Department has thousands of PR people this
2:37:05
the number of PR people that work in
2:37:07
the government get paid paid Well, it's crazy.
2:37:10
It's just outrageous.
2:37:11
I mean, they're just doing everything, you know,
2:37:12
they're just that's the communications part Yeah, can't
2:37:16
they just use AI for that?
2:37:19
Well, let's hope not how does the Trump
2:37:23
administration explain that because it seems like Funding
2:37:26
cancer research and cures for cancer seems like
2:37:29
a no-brainer in any administration the Trump
2:37:32
administration In response to our story They actually
2:37:35
said that it was misleading and it's a
2:37:38
biased narrative and that they are essentially Refocusing
2:37:41
the National Cancer Institute's work and it represents
2:37:44
a necessary Transformation and that the Department of
2:37:48
Health and Human Services, which is where NCI
2:37:50
ultimately sits still values and plans to prioritize
2:37:55
Research into cancer and other health conditions.
2:37:58
And so that is what they are saying.
2:38:00
Essentially.
2:38:00
It's necessary Under the administration's policies and to
2:38:05
sort of realign what NCI is doing Hmm.
2:38:09
Yeah, in other words for there's two things
2:38:11
about this report classic PBS No numbers are
2:38:16
given what numbers were we talking about they
2:38:17
took a dollar away ten dollars away one
2:38:19
percent I mean, what did they take away?
2:38:22
They never says and then they say the
2:38:24
real is a reorg So the reorg which
2:38:26
got rid of all the communications people all
2:38:29
the PR people's seems to me is is
2:38:31
what it was all about We're spending too
2:38:33
much money on PR.
2:38:35
Let's put it toward real actual research.
2:38:37
How about that for an idea?
2:38:38
And no, no, no, she's not buying into
2:38:40
it All right onward and from talking to
2:38:45
researchers and and clinicians within the NCI What
2:38:49
if they said to you about what the
2:38:50
impact of these cuts has been?
2:38:54
They say that it is harming research Severely,
2:39:00
we have one scientist saying that people will
2:39:02
die that people will die Die because there
2:39:06
are life-saving efforts that are being curtailed
2:39:09
at this moment I think the other thing
2:39:11
that's really important to underscore is so many
2:39:15
people we talked to inside the government and
2:39:18
even outside the government said it is Inexplicable
2:39:22
why this is being done They don't understand
2:39:24
the aim the objective because we have seen
2:39:28
so much Progress in the fight against cancer
2:39:32
in this country and around the world But
2:39:34
that being said it is still the nation's
2:39:37
second leading cause of death only heart disease
2:39:40
Surpasses it right in 2023, which is the
2:39:44
most recent data We have over 600,000
2:39:46
people in the US died from cancer And
2:39:49
we still have millions of people that are
2:39:50
diagnosed with it every year And so there's
2:39:53
clearly still a lot of work to be
2:39:54
done and NCI has contributed an almost immeasurable
2:40:00
amount for Reducing cancer deaths in this country,
2:40:03
but what if it's immeasurable, what is the
2:40:06
amount?
2:40:07
Though it's immeasurable.
2:40:08
You can't measure it.
2:40:10
That's again.
2:40:11
It's immeasurable With what with what?
2:40:15
Quiet quiet Is there some drug that I'm
2:40:20
unaware of that I should be taking that
2:40:22
they Mentioned she's the people who will die.
2:40:25
This is the talking point that Democrats for
2:40:27
everything USAID is having money taken away.
2:40:31
People are gonna die.
2:40:32
Yeah.
2:40:32
Yeah.
2:40:33
I know this is this is quite annoying.
2:40:35
They use this a lot Elizabeth Warren does
2:40:37
it all the time now People will die
2:40:40
people will die people will die.
2:40:42
They will die people will die Yeah, people
2:40:45
die All right.
2:40:47
All right.
2:40:48
Does this also impact current cases people who
2:40:51
are living with cancer?
2:40:53
Now being treated for their cancer today I
2:40:57
think it does as part of Carried out
2:41:02
earlier this year across the department and many
2:41:05
important agencies among the people who lost their
2:41:08
jobs Were most of the workers inside of
2:41:12
NCI's communications office Emanating really important health important
2:41:19
health information that includes information like don't drink
2:41:22
alcohol and take ozempic Is found on cancer
2:41:25
.gov which is a website that is used
2:41:28
widely in this country by cancer patients and
2:41:30
their families and also updating resources that physicians
2:41:33
and other Clinicians who care for cancer patients
2:41:37
rely on with the latest research about a
2:41:41
particular disease or particular type of Malignancy and
2:41:46
so the fact that those resources are not
2:41:48
being updated because most of the workers were
2:41:50
fired Will have an immediate impact on cancer
2:41:53
patients who are looking for information about Treatments
2:41:57
and research to help inform their care.
2:42:00
I'll get a WordPress blog.
2:42:01
Listen to this So I go to cancer
2:42:04
.gov and there's two big big Areas right
2:42:09
the top of this page on the left
2:42:10
for people affected by cancer and on the
2:42:13
right for researchers Support for the best science
2:42:16
underpins everything NCI does Explore our resources to
2:42:20
help researchers conduct their work and apply for
2:42:22
funding and training opportunities And then they have
2:42:26
what?
2:42:27
Articles, why are cancer diagnosis rising in people
2:42:30
under age 50 only if only you could
2:42:32
figure out what changed Rapid genetics, I don't
2:42:40
know man Get answers So, okay, so I
2:42:45
need web developers, I guess Whatever.
2:42:50
All right Last clip.
2:42:53
Oh, I'm sorry.
2:42:53
Last clip is number four Does this also
2:42:59
impact?
2:43:00
current cases people who are Living with cancer
2:43:03
now being treated for their cancer today.
2:43:06
I think it does as part of That
2:43:09
was number four then then the we've played
2:43:14
Well, I have a report from UK Which
2:43:18
I thought was interesting that trying to do
2:43:20
this everywhere in the world the UK Appears
2:43:23
not quite there yet, but appears to have
2:43:25
pushed it through in the United Kingdom They
2:43:27
can work pay taxes and serve in the
2:43:30
military now 16 and 17 year olds might
2:43:33
be able to vote in the next general
2:43:34
election These students are cautiously optimistic about the
2:43:38
decision.
2:43:39
I'm happy about it Because it's always really
2:43:42
annoying watching like older people vote and then
2:43:45
but there's not realistically it's not going to
2:43:47
affect them It's gonna affect our futures.
2:43:49
So Yeah, I'm happy about it But it
2:43:51
is like that small worry about like people
2:43:53
who are just gonna like take their parents
2:43:55
opinions The move fulfills a campaign pledged by
2:43:58
the Labour government and brings the whole of
2:44:01
the United Kingdom in line with Scotland and
2:44:03
Wales Who have already made the change?
2:44:05
Some conservative critics have questioned whether young people
2:44:08
should be able to vote when they aren't
2:44:10
deemed old enough to get married or stand
2:44:12
for election But specialists say teens are well
2:44:16
-informed We know from where the countries where
2:44:19
this is introduced is that actually 16 17
2:44:22
was making decisions of an equal quality Older
2:44:25
voters young people have also expressed concern about
2:44:28
misinformation on social media.
2:44:30
I think it's definitely a problem Like I
2:44:33
know lots of people who are really very
2:44:35
impressionable But I think it is a small
2:44:37
minority of people that will actually get affected
2:44:40
by far-right or far-left Social media
2:44:43
the government announced a proposal on Thursday as
2:44:45
part of a sweeping reform to the democratic
2:44:47
system It will also include extending acceptable forms
2:44:51
of ID Improving postal votes and clamping down
2:44:54
on rules on political donations But first it
2:44:57
will have to be scrutinized by the Parliament
2:44:59
It's gonna be very interesting how that unpacks
2:45:01
if they actually get it through 16 year
2:45:04
olds, I don't know.
2:45:05
It seems like 16.
2:45:06
I don't like it.
2:45:08
No, I'm an old fart.
2:45:09
I don't like it 16 years don't know
2:45:13
Jack Okay, they're just gonna you know, they're
2:45:18
gonna no no, although it could they could
2:45:20
be exploited well Yeah, that's I think that's
2:45:23
the I mean that's the idea the idea
2:45:25
is to exploit them No, no social media
2:45:28
we'll hire back some of those web people
2:45:31
Yeah, I have a little Side track.
2:45:34
I'm gonna go on.
2:45:35
Mm-hmm.
2:45:36
Just one clip.
2:45:37
This is Alex I think is Wilkins is
2:45:40
her name Alexis Wilkins the girl who is
2:45:43
the Suspicious Mossad agent a 26 year old.
2:45:47
Oh, this is who?
2:45:48
The Patel is dating her Patel's date.
2:45:52
Yeah.
2:45:53
Yeah.
2:45:53
Yeah, and she's she's now she's a Mossad
2:45:57
agent Well, this is what they're saying.
2:46:00
Oh, okay.
2:46:01
In fact, this guy is dude this guy
2:46:02
Stein.
2:46:03
I think his name Stein I can remember
2:46:04
who is he Brooke?
2:46:05
She brings him on the show.
2:46:07
She's doing her her show remote.
2:46:09
She has a show Oh, she has a
2:46:11
yes.
2:46:11
She has a podcast Highly scripted.
2:46:14
I've seen her.
2:46:15
She's oh, it's it it.
2:46:18
Yes It's not She's a Hangout so she's
2:46:25
at a turning point USA.
2:46:27
They have a media segment.
2:46:29
I guess they're all bearers podcasting from there
2:46:31
I want to talk about that for a
2:46:32
second After we played this clip of her
2:46:34
she brings this guy on who talks about
2:46:36
her being she's been you know Kicked to
2:46:39
the curb as a spy and he has
2:46:42
to and they go and they go back
2:46:44
and forth with their with their lively Banter
2:46:47
okay.
2:46:48
Hello everyone.
2:46:49
Welcome to the Rumbles.
2:46:50
Oh, no This is the this is what
2:46:55
we do with my new podcast Hello everyone,
2:47:01
welcome to the rumble studio at a SAS
2:47:04
turning point USA here in Tampa, Florida We
2:47:06
are so happy to be here.
2:47:07
I'm Alexis Wilkins if you've watched the show
2:47:10
before you know This is between the headlines.
2:47:12
We took a brief hiatus, but we are
2:47:14
so back moving to a live stream format
2:47:16
I'm very excited to be doing it.
2:47:17
I have with me Alexis I just want
2:47:23
to say thank you for having me but
2:47:24
it's Alex Stein Stein 99 the guy who
2:47:27
goes into the into the council City Council
2:47:31
meetings That guy yeah that guy I Just
2:47:36
want to say thank you for having me
2:47:38
but you got canceled this week and I
2:47:40
kind of got canceled yesterday And I think
2:47:42
it got revealed that you and I are
2:47:44
both Masada agents working for Benjamin Netanyahu.
2:47:47
So we're toast for Venice I think we
2:47:49
have to retire It's it's an internet meltdown,
2:47:52
but you know, it's unfair and I see
2:47:53
the attacks on you because like obviously cash
2:47:55
is a very powerful guy But this is
2:47:57
what's unfair.
2:47:58
They came after me too.
2:47:59
Like when my mom died, you know, they
2:48:00
said that I killed my mom It is
2:48:02
really bad, but my point is like with
2:48:04
the Internet, it doesn't even matter what you
2:48:07
say or do You're going to find a
2:48:09
conspiracy theorist and I'm a conspiracy theorist to
2:48:11
create a conspiracy about you and share it
2:48:13
on the Internet You know, it's just because
2:48:15
you're well known it's in the water and
2:48:17
it's it's funny because coming from someone who
2:48:20
you know, obviously there's a lot of context
2:48:21
here of You know, you know, you know
2:48:25
what's going on in our country?
2:48:27
Yeah, and And I understand that people need
2:48:30
a villain I do get it That's the
2:48:36
thing is like they want anything and so
2:48:38
they'll pretend that I'm the CEO of Prager
2:48:41
you which I'm very That's what I see.
2:48:44
I see they share that thing where I
2:48:45
said that and what did you even work
2:48:47
for Prager you that long?
2:48:48
I mean, I mean short-form content.
2:48:50
I mean you made some videos for him
2:48:52
But once again Dennis Prager is a great
2:48:54
guy because he's Jewish now.
2:48:56
You're a Masada spy so it's just kind
2:48:57
of a weird thing where if you even
2:48:59
have one crumb do you work for a
2:49:01
Jewish guy now that made You work for
2:49:03
Asia and listen, I hate that It's always
2:49:06
a conspiracy.
2:49:07
There's like I hate my last name Stein
2:49:08
actually was baptized.
2:49:09
I'm actually a Christian everybody's like, oh, you're
2:49:11
this Jewish Agent and I I don't like
2:49:14
that.
2:49:15
I Apologize for the invention of podcasting you
2:49:19
should Because this is actually the typical today's
2:49:24
typical podcast.
2:49:25
Yeah.
2:49:25
Yeah A couple gas bags going on and
2:49:29
on So so the question so you went
2:49:38
to an event where chart now Charlie Kirk
2:49:40
to me is an interesting character because he
2:49:42
is One of the great self promoters of
2:49:43
our day He's a great speaker he's a
2:49:49
marketing genius and I don't care much for
2:49:53
what he's up to but he's a marketing
2:49:56
genius and he and I and you saw
2:49:59
him speak and you say is a great
2:50:01
speaker and I can believe that because he
2:50:02
Spends all his time Honing his skills.
2:50:06
Mm-hmm, and he's also a good debater
2:50:08
because he's a master debater as a matter
2:50:10
of fact.
2:50:10
Yes, he is Because he gets you know,
2:50:13
he does all these these viral He creates
2:50:15
his own viral videos of him slamming some
2:50:17
poor asshole that comes up and argues Well,
2:50:21
this is this is really his thing is
2:50:23
where he went to college campuses and just
2:50:25
went yeah He's the change my mind guy.
2:50:27
No, no, no, but no I mean he
2:50:30
is he's the real change my mind the
2:50:32
guy who sits at the table says change
2:50:34
my mind Which you know, that's Crowder ugly
2:50:37
change my mind kind of thing.
2:50:39
That's a Crowder Yeah Crowder, but I think
2:50:42
this is the real because he argues He
2:50:45
puts he's just really outstanding.
2:50:47
But you say he flies around in a
2:50:49
private jet He's you know, because the guy's
2:50:52
third 27 28 29, maybe I don't know
2:50:55
how old he is, but this guy's remarkable
2:50:57
But why is he get he gets everybody
2:51:00
his attention does do people get paid to
2:51:02
speak at his events?
2:51:05
No People want to be seen at his
2:51:08
events.
2:51:08
He so a Lot of people here in
2:51:13
Fredericksburg.
2:51:13
In fact, we've been invited We couldn't go
2:51:17
but we invited we in fact, we got
2:51:18
an invitation from some people at boot ranch
2:51:20
number boot ranch Boot ranch the bar.
2:51:24
No boot ranch the the the the eight
2:51:27
million dollar homes at boot ranch was 20
2:51:29
Oh grants that area with all those.
2:51:31
Yeah in place.
2:51:32
Yes.
2:51:32
Yes.
2:51:32
Yeah so turning point USA really became the
2:51:38
thing for wealthy people to donate money to
2:51:42
because it was going to be the youth
2:51:44
and I think it Arguably was very successful
2:51:47
the youth that were going to change America
2:51:51
And to be fair about it I think
2:51:53
putting money into a group that organizes youth
2:51:56
the way Charlie Kirk does it is a
2:51:59
lot better than anything the the Democrat Party
2:52:02
does to organize youth, you know by Cutting
2:52:04
off their genitals and giving them blue hair
2:52:06
and putting them on tick-tock so you
2:52:08
can retweet them What happened to your nose
2:52:10
ring?
2:52:11
Yeah And of course, he has a very
2:52:14
strong Biblical element to him because the guy
2:52:16
can quote scripture like nobody I've ever seen.
2:52:19
Yeah, he's memorized the Bible He's really good
2:52:21
at it any but he also understands it
2:52:23
so when he when he comes and you
2:52:25
don't want to get into a debate over
2:52:26
scripture with Charlie Kirk and Yes, and and
2:52:30
he's very open about the jet because he
2:52:32
does so many events I think he's on
2:52:34
the road 200 days out of the year
2:52:36
and he goes from event to event to
2:52:38
event and so I don't think people are
2:52:41
getting paid to show up at the event,
2:52:42
but the Turning point USA.
2:52:45
We could probably look him up Let's take
2:52:48
a look at what?
2:52:48
What what turning point brings in Lots a
2:52:54
lot of money.
2:52:55
Yeah a lot of MP on they have
2:52:57
extra What do you call it?
2:53:00
Here?
2:53:00
Let me see TP.
2:53:01
Let me see if it's under TP USA
2:53:04
You know, here it is.
2:53:05
Whoo There you go Gross receipts want to
2:53:11
take a stab 135 million no, I know
2:53:14
86 million 86 million Mm-hmm 750 grassroots
2:53:20
activists you know, you can pay an extra
2:53:23
10 grand you get to have dinner with
2:53:25
Charlie and Now I don't I don't think
2:53:29
they pay people like Candace because she's she
2:53:32
speaks at a lot of these Candace Owens
2:53:34
But you want to be you want to
2:53:36
be seen speaking at turning point USA You
2:53:39
do and so they I'm sure they fly
2:53:41
them in put them up take care of
2:53:42
them And it's without a doubt, it's it's
2:53:47
a very very successful group not just for
2:53:50
you know For them doing what they do,
2:53:52
but politically I think it's a big deal
2:53:56
Maybe I'm not convinced.
2:53:59
What do you mean?
2:53:59
I am convinced this guy's doing a hell
2:54:01
of a job of marketing and selling and
2:54:04
managing This is a management issue to that
2:54:07
dad dad dad gum Charlie Kirk.
2:54:09
He's He's no slouch Hey, and yeah, I
2:54:14
want you to get that actually I was
2:54:15
somebody did a calculation in the one time
2:54:18
I was I'm good saying what about when
2:54:20
do you get when you start using a
2:54:22
private jet is when you get to 50
2:54:24
million?
2:54:25
Yeah, that's probably about right And then you
2:54:28
use private jet Way beyond that.
2:54:31
Hey, and it's expensed.
2:54:33
So yeah.
2:54:34
No, it's it's a write-off, of course
2:54:36
Um What is this NPR food podcast anything
2:54:40
with podcasting right now?
2:54:42
I'm ready for it.
2:54:43
I want to maybe I should start a
2:54:44
food podcast I think I'm more likely to
2:54:48
do that This is a I have two
2:54:52
ads.
2:54:52
These are two NPR ads for would sound
2:54:55
like terrible podcasts And so I clipped these
2:54:58
ads and here's the food podcast ad we
2:55:02
humans are born into a wondrous planetary chorus
2:55:07
But these days it can be hard to
2:55:09
hear anything, but the noise of our own
2:55:11
species How is this changing us?
2:55:15
And how are we changed?
2:55:17
Podcast list we oh, I'm sorry.
2:55:19
I played the wrong one You're right.
2:55:22
Yeah, the NPR food podcast ad.
2:55:24
Sorry.
2:55:25
Here we go American food politics are a
2:55:29
mess Ordinary people are struggling to figure out
2:55:31
who's in charge What they're up to why
2:55:34
one vaccine critic I think they wrote on
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the first 100 days on soda pop Welcome
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to for a podcast about food politics in
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the Maha age from the food and environment
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reporting network Can you imagine anyone listening to
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whatever they have to say No Well the
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next ad the other ad which you play
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you play to be any of yes is
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a This is a classic.
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This is a podcast about listening Oh Groovy
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We've got tip of the day coming up.
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We do have Dame's nights.
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We got some PhDs got meetup reports and
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John is now going to thank the rest
2:58:07
of our value for value supporters $50 and
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above And before I do that, I'm gonna
2:58:13
thank a couple of the donors from the
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yes, of course from the meetup on the
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meetup She came in with lesser amounts Including
2:58:21
Will James Robertson who's got him He has
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some three by five cards that he sent
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Including the one he wrote on they have
2:58:30
stripes across them.
2:58:32
There's just these dynamite cards.
2:58:33
I'd like to know where he got him
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Hmm, it's a little card in here.
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We should have asked him How I didn't
2:58:39
notice because it was in an envelope sealed
2:58:41
envelope with a note inside like you're supposed
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to do Okay, so I got home.
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I found him.
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Thank you for your quality podcast He says
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I'm always informed and entertained came in with
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a hundred one dollars and seventy nine cents.
2:58:52
Then we have Sir Zol bat looks like
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sir Zol bat came in with a hundred
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and hit Zol bat Zol bat Do John
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and Adam hundred ten bucks, he's obviously a
2:59:06
sir because he's got the seal on the
2:59:07
back of the envelope Then the lovely Angela
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Garcia came in with a hundred dollars she
2:59:14
also makes miniatures and then Makes miniatures of
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what she makes little she's somehow during kovat.
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She got into this She makes these little
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art pieces that are tiny Miniatures, it's like
2:59:28
she uses tweezers and a microscope and she
2:59:31
makes art.
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Oh, that's kind of cool Yeah, I told
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her that she should sell it to it
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says nut balls who build these doll houses.
2:59:40
Yeah There you go recalcitrant Steve came in
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with 51 50 But he has a total
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that gives his wife a dame hood and
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I have to read the note obviously because
2:59:50
the dame hood involved I hope this note
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finds you well after traveling from Club Mallard
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to John's house This JCD meetup donation would
2:59:57
have put me over the top for baronet
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But instead I wanted to do a switcheroo
3:00:03
and credit my wife rose with a dame
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the Sonoma wino country.
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We are actually ever on the list He
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needs though.
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douched So he says we've been married 18
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years in December God willing and we've never
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had a fight She's been the goal of
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buying a house on New Year's Day 2025
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and she made it happen We bought our
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new place just over a month and a
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half ago.
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She's my designated drivers for many JCD meetups.
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I Don't know why he needs one and
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listens to the show on our road trips.
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She doesn't come into the meetups She's the
3:00:44
best wife and mother in the world I
3:00:46
love you with all my heart sweetheart and
3:00:48
at the roundtable we have to write these
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down give her some Hook and ladder goverts
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Tremina wait hook and ladder Yeah, I've never
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heard of it either hook and ladder what?
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diverts Tremina, it's a it's a gorgeous spicy
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grape That makes a beautiful white wine Tremina,
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okay diverts Tremina Filipino lumpia and some lightly
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salted pistachios and then he wants to jingle
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boogity boogity and house blessings with some f
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-35 karma, and I Think that's required by
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the nature of this note Okay, hold on
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a second.
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I wasn't ready for that.
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No.
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I'm sorry F-35 and a boogity boogity
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I had everything all set up you screwed
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me up, and you don't even like the
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boogity boogity you in fact You don't I
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don't I think you did just despite me
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boogity boogity boogity You've
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got Karma Onward with onward with the list
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me donation And you can count on you
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the CEO of in and out burger being
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I just decided Well yeah strike well, there's
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the strike It's a Bitcoin donation for Who
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-knows-what it never shows up in the
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Maybe they're holding the money.
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I have no idea, but it's not in
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Yeah Nathan in Toronto, Ontario 6362 That's a
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Kevin O'Brien in Chicago a 6006 strike
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again another strike donation and from someone We
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think you have to I don't know how
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we're gonna do these which probably just accumulate
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them and use But they need to do
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is they need to send us a note.
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No, they do They need to send us
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our name their names.
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Yeah, you send a note with a name,
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please.
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But then yeah They have to associate with
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a very specific amount of money.
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It's very possible.
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They know how to do it They just
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aren't doing it.
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They just like here's to take my money,
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but what's your problem?
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Well, I'm saying if you have strike strike
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strike on the spreadsheet just put them into
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Oh, okay Yeah one listing Dean Roker 55
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Oh, these are 50s.
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Okay, we're at the 50s Doing one at
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a time name and locations starting with Scott
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and Terrence Boyer in Tuscola Illinois, I never
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heard of that place Andrew goosick in Greensboro,
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North Carolina Michael Sy Cora in New Richmond,
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Wisconsin anonymous and Silver Spring, Maryland a Lot
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of people emailed me about this Ear mold.
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Yeah, people are very concerned.
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Well, don't wear headphones.
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You won't wear out to worry about it
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But you know, you could Renee you could
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wear in ear Headphones you won't get ear
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Yeah We have an inventor in our midst
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who's done some made with mams are gonna
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cost a fortune but he's usually shows up
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at the meetups with his with his attractive
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Yeah, I got two shows left So Mike
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Sylvia and Adam Adam Munziger all become PhDs
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And we will gladly send that out to
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you two dames two nights And that means
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if you can grab your blade.
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Sylvia Thomas Flanagan McCall and Mike step up
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and the meat You should also go to
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know agenda rings calm and you can take
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a look at the handsome No agenda night
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and Dame ring that is portrayed there.
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It's a signet ring So when you give
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us the address and your ring size We'll
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send that off to you along with a
3:09:50
certificate of authenticity as always and a bunch
3:09:52
of sticks of wax So you can seal
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your important correspondence and welcome to the roundtable
3:09:57
the no agenda nights and dames They
3:10:09
still are a thing although according to Mimi
3:10:11
they're dropping off so you better get out
3:10:13
to them Otherwise, you know if you don't
3:10:16
go to your meetup the meetup may stop
3:10:18
and then you'll be sad You wouldn't want
3:10:19
that to happen These are producer organized events
3:10:21
so anybody can do them and we always
3:10:23
suggest that you send us a meetup report
3:10:25
let us know how it went if possible
3:10:27
add your server to the meetup report and
3:10:29
this is the Northern Silicon Valley get John
3:10:33
out of the house meetup report in the
3:10:35
morning.
3:10:36
This is sir Rick Alston crazy see the
3:10:38
second at the seventh Jcd meetup and we're
3:10:43
passing penis wine aerators all around this place
3:10:47
Hold on a second.
3:10:48
You did not tell me about the penis
3:10:50
wine aerators Yeah We have a woman who's
3:10:57
a wine expert Cynthia Kirk she was there
3:11:02
with these I would say phallic wine aerators
3:11:07
and she by the way I Got into
3:11:09
a discussion with her about wine because when
3:11:11
you're you get someone who claims to be
3:11:13
a wine expert There was one a decant
3:11:16
You do the back-and-forth with them
3:11:18
to see how good they are.
3:11:19
She's knows wine.
3:11:21
She's very talented Wine drinker taster and she
3:11:24
works for a winery.
3:11:25
So that's she has a palace.
3:11:27
He has a good palate.
3:11:29
I would think so Mm-hmm.
3:11:31
I'm just guessing.
3:11:32
I mean we didn't drink wine, but if
3:11:34
she sounds like she knows what she's talking
3:11:36
about So she's a good wine person but
3:11:38
she's also got this company called naughty and
3:11:41
she makes this kind of these these wine
3:11:44
aerators that are shaped like a phallus and
3:11:47
the wine and Erase the wine, you know,
3:11:49
you stick it in a bottle.
3:11:50
Yes It was the hit of the show.
3:11:52
It sounds like it.
3:11:54
It sounds like it was it's it's it's
3:11:56
rude Yes, I remember it's a party product
3:11:59
as well as you have a dinner party
3:12:01
you put that you do the one with
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this thing And they're all I see what
3:12:05
you're doing It's a rubber No, I'm sorry.
3:12:09
It reminds me of do you ever seen
3:12:10
these glasses these?
3:12:12
Groucho Marx glasses with the eyebrows instead of
3:12:16
the big giant nose.
3:12:17
It's a big dick.
3:12:18
Have you seen those?
3:12:19
Level that we're I got you.
3:12:21
Hey, so Robertson of two sticks and I'm
3:12:24
glad to be here.
3:12:25
Thank you This is sir.
3:12:27
Lawrence of dystopia baronet of Maxwell Park.
3:12:29
I bought one of those penises and I'm
3:12:31
very satisfied What she was selling him Yes,
3:12:35
she had a few to sell yeah goodness
3:12:39
That's what you want.
3:12:40
They name been Duke of San Francisco.
3:12:41
I'm beginning to have penis envy right now
3:12:44
Joe Walden Roth Idaho glad to be here
3:12:47
Yeah, look, I mean, this is sir.
3:12:49
Julian Baron of Santa Cruz Mountains hanging out
3:12:51
with the new grand star of OAN Sir
3:12:56
Zulba out of Windsor here.
3:12:57
I finally found my car keys and I
3:12:59
made it to the meetup Sir Aaron night
3:13:02
of the strawberry fog ITM Scott Cunningham for
3:13:06
Mountain View in the morning Sir Montauk enjoying
3:13:09
a nice day at Club and Mallard Angela
3:13:13
Garcia from San Francisco in the morning Yeah,
3:13:19
I'm trying to escape these guys are all
3:13:22
nuts in the morning everybody In the morning
3:13:27
All right, Fort Wayne, Indiana had a meetup.
3:13:30
Here's their report Adam and John.
3:13:32
This is Shannon from Fort Wayne We hope
3:13:33
this meetup finds you.
3:13:35
Well, everybody here's having a good time in
3:13:36
the morning Dame Trinity having great time at
3:13:39
Don Hall's Tavern in the morning John and
3:13:42
Adam sir PBR street gang Hey Adam keep
3:13:46
up the faith No agenda John.
3:13:49
It wouldn't hurt you to go to mass
3:13:50
The Ohio bloke just checking in in Fort
3:13:54
Wayne, Indiana and the bloke's Sheila from Hicksville,
3:13:57
Ohio Here with you in Fort Wayne, Indiana,
3:14:00
too.
3:14:00
This is Jared.
3:14:01
I really like Hicksville, Ohio Thank you for
3:14:04
your courage.
3:14:05
There's Mike Fort Wayne checked everyone's browser history.
3:14:08
Everyone's good to go.
3:14:08
No spooks here today foam finger number one
3:14:13
And our final meetup report comes from New
3:14:16
York City The New York City No agenda
3:14:25
meetup Ugly's Gramercy Thursday, June 26 Morgan this
3:14:32
is Jannah after seven long years in Berlin
3:14:37
Deutschland She's back baby better than ever Hey
3:14:41
Tom in the morning live from the Home
3:14:43
Depot on 23rd Street in New York City
3:14:46
We're all waiting for John Dvorak to pick
3:14:48
us up.
3:14:49
We're ready to work in the morning It's
3:14:51
Steph.
3:14:51
We're at pug uglies and Adam.
3:14:54
Thank you for accepting my make-a-wish
3:14:56
request I'm so excited to see you on
3:14:59
July 21st.
3:15:00
What?
3:15:01
Thank you, Lord Coming to you from New
3:15:05
York City I'm the only one with the
3:15:08
night ring here and they kissed the ring,
3:15:10
but I'm still pretty sure in New York
3:15:14
City We're all gonna die zero some zero
3:15:17
six no authority living my best life on
3:15:20
my worst behavior Yo, what up?
3:15:23
We're at the Roosevelt Hotel for the New
3:15:25
York City meetup having a good time here
3:15:27
Thank you to all the producers from plug
3:15:30
uglies here.
3:15:31
I'm the bartender.
3:15:31
I just served the no agenda crew today.
3:15:34
They're awesome Solid fucking drinkers All right, you
3:15:40
got your server in there very good Those
3:15:42
are the reports and of course we have
3:15:44
a couple of meetups to round out the
3:15:46
month of July on the 25th Victoria British
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Columbia in Canada, Anaheim, California 226 Columbus, Ohio
3:15:52
on the 26th and Alpharetta George on the
3:15:55
31st There's plenty of space on that calendar
3:15:57
at no agenda meetups comm this is where
3:15:59
you find the first responders in a real
3:16:01
emergency Connection is protection go to a no
3:16:04
agenda meetup You can find them all at
3:16:06
no agenda meetups comm if you can't find
3:16:08
one near you start one yourself It's easy
3:16:10
and always a party Sometimes you wanna go
3:16:14
hang out with all the nights and days
3:16:19
You wanna be where you won't be Triggered
3:16:22
or hella lame You wanna be where everybody
3:16:26
feels the same It's like a party That's
3:16:32
right everybody the party continues right here on
3:16:35
your no agenda show with a great two
3:16:37
-tapper of an ender show mix coming up
3:16:39
We have John's tip of the day and
3:16:41
man I get so many complaints about your
3:16:44
AI ISOs, and I always yell at them
3:16:46
in all caps email John Why they say
3:16:49
man they're killing the show.
3:16:52
It's no good.
3:16:53
Why don't you email John does anyone ever
3:16:56
email you about the show?
3:16:57
They're at the very end.
3:16:59
Well.
3:16:59
They hate it.
3:17:00
They really hate it.
3:17:01
They how many people we talking about one
3:17:03
guy wrote thousands thousands of people Crap thousands
3:17:08
all right what houses so use about ten
3:17:10
people yeah, so you prompted an ISO I
3:17:15
Guess I'm just seeing it's an ISO podcast
3:17:18
so I presume no.
3:17:19
I'm not doing any more AI.
3:17:21
That's not AI okay I'm gonna listen to
3:17:23
it now.
3:17:24
So you can understand the world wherever you
3:17:26
get your podcast Go back to AI that
3:17:30
was no good no I'm not doing AI
3:17:32
anymore Mediocre and the show good clips there's
3:17:36
another one I couldn't quite clip because they
3:17:38
stepped all over it it turns out that
3:17:40
the Emmy Awards has half the nominees for
3:17:42
various shows are a about about podcasters Yeah,
3:17:48
man, Kristen Bell's a podcast Series of the
3:17:53
murders in the buildings about a crime podcast
3:17:57
And where are we where where's my dude?
3:18:00
Well, we're actually podcast We're not doing where's
3:18:03
my buddy?
3:18:03
Where's my P buddy?
3:18:05
Where's my Pulitzer?
3:18:06
Whatever is Pulitzer no yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
3:18:10
no no no no Body body body there
3:18:13
you go.
3:18:14
Here's the best.
3:18:15
Here's my end of show.
3:18:16
I so is this the first one I
3:18:21
I Think this is the killer this one
3:18:25
the guy's like an ISO machine He is
3:18:27
he is an ISO machine listen to this
3:18:28
one people can't get enough of this show
3:18:32
Huh, that's the winner.
3:18:34
I knew it was the winner, but the
3:18:35
real winner is always going to be John
3:18:37
C Dvorak's tip of the day And sometimes
3:18:49
Created by Dana Brunetti Well switching gears we
3:18:52
have another product that's people should get a
3:18:54
hold of if you have leather seats leather
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Interiors or your car or anything else is
3:18:58
a leather product And it's not a leather
3:19:01
cleaner.
3:19:01
It's a leather did they do make a
3:19:03
leather cleaner, but you want the leather conditioner
3:19:05
from a company called leather honey Leather honey
3:19:10
other leather conditioner it will turn leather bags
3:19:14
leather shoes Leather seats letter be like butter
3:19:19
will it be like butter when you use
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the leather the leather honey It will be
3:19:23
dynamite, and it doesn't leave a sticky residue.
3:19:26
It just it's a pretty good.
3:19:28
It's just a dynamite product And how makes
3:19:31
a leather last longer doesn't crack Huh and
3:19:34
do you use it on all kinds of
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leather like you let all kinds of leather
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if you got leather use this Will it
3:19:41
work or money will it work on my
3:19:43
assless chaps made of leather.
3:19:44
Yeah, absolutely They'd be smooth as silk There
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it is everybody tip of the day.net
3:19:50
for all of John's tips Sometimes Created
3:20:01
by Dana Brunetti of course you can also
3:20:02
find them in no agenda fun calm for
3:20:05
all of John C.
3:20:06
Dvorak's tips of the day and If you
3:20:10
are listening right now live Then I suggest
3:20:13
you stay tuned because we've got just two
3:20:16
good old boys coming up as we say
3:20:22
What do we say dad gum dad gum
3:20:25
those two good old boys sir Gene and
3:20:27
dude named Ben named Ben coming up next
3:20:29
on The podcast stream check him out everybody
3:20:33
Before that though we have one solitary single
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end of show mix from Nico sign Which
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is as John or described it a real
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toe-tapper?
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I'm sure it will involve something about President
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Trump as it always does you think probably
3:21:04
Coming to you from the heart of the
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Texas Hill Country right here in the first
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German town of Fredericksburg, Texas really in the
3:21:13
morning everybody I'm Adam Curry Dan from northern
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Silicon Valley where we're gonna start saying daddy.
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Oh, I'm John C Dvorak we'll see you
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on Thursday remember us no agenda donations calm
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adios mofos of who we who we and
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I was a kid we drank from the
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clothes now filters feeling Anxiety flare and kids
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get triggered by the wrong kind of hair
3:21:45
We read the news and questioned the spin
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now they scroll fast and let the alcohol
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win But we got two mics and a
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to check while your crypto crashed on your
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old-school Chad Smell the cracks you ride
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the wave we cut through the flack crackpot
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buzzkill ride again with a donation You
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think a tick-tock dance is content I
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built a ham radio out of spare parts
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In the boomer jam Oh Mofo
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Dvorak org slash and a people can't get
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