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Hey Stooge, the podcast is beginning, get on
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Adam Curry, John C.
DeVora.
It's Thursday, August 28th, 2025.
This is your award-winning Kimmel Nation Media
Assassination episode 1794.
This is no agenda.
Houston, we have a problem.
And we're broadcasting live from the heart of
the Texas Hill Country here in FEMA region
number six.
In the morning everybody, I'm Adam Curry.
I am from northern Silicon Valley where we're
all wondering why don't they talk to the
trans shooter's mother?
I'm John C.
DeVorak.
Well obviously that would break the imaginary wall
that we have a pattern here.
So we can't be doing that.
There'll be no talking to family members.
You know in that in the 11 minute
video that he did where he shows all
his clips.
Yes.
Big gun clips.
He shows the four letter, I'm sorry, the
four page note to his parents and his
apology letter.
And in there he mentions everybody in the
family.
He's got all the names.
Yeah.
He's got brothers and sisters.
He talks about how his sister is estranged
from his mother and won't talk to her
and he'd like them to get back together.
And it just seems to me, and this
also holds true for that Crooks character, the
guy who took a shot at President Trump.
Why hasn't the media, who doesn't, I've seen
it, they don't mind doing this, ambushing people,
you know, coming up from behind, really getting
in their car and yelling at them.
They do it in the halls of Congress.
They do it everywhere.
But why haven't we seen these parents?
I want to see Crooks parents.
I want to see somebody talking to him.
I want to see this guy's mom who
transed him when he was a minor, went
to court and changed his name.
She was responsible.
I want to see these people.
I want to see them interviewed.
And why are we protecting them?
They're the ones that are at fault.
Are you somehow confused with the news media
being around to inform you?
Because that's not what they're for.
They are here to protect the system.
And the system is showing us patterns, two
patterns.
One, for the first time that I can
recall, the video stayed up and the so
-called manifesto is everywhere.
This is a break in the pattern.
But there were two videos.
But I'm saying it's a break in the
pattern.
This is different.
Well, I'm not convinced of this because what
I'm seeing was, I think people down, somebody
got there quicker to the draw and they
grabbed those videos and they've been repurposing them
because they have been taken down from the
original source.
I'm just saying it's a change in the
pattern.
And the other pattern we have now, five
in the pattern.
Aberdeen, Maryland, Snochia Mosley, identified as transgender male.
That was 2018.
May 2019, Denver, Colorado, Alec McKinney and Devin
Erickson-McKinney, trans, school shooting.
Of course, 2022, Colorado Springs, Club Q nightclub,
non-binary.
And 2023, Nashville, Tennessee, Covenant School.
This is the fifth in a pattern.
And I think it's more than, is there,
I thought there were six.
I may be forgetting one, but that's what
I could remember off the top of my
head.
So this is now a pattern and we
need to just admit it.
And what has happened is we, the whole,
I'm glad, actually, I have to say, I'm
glad that this shooter was transgender so we
can get back to the conversation because we've
been desensitized about transgendering children, basically just to
relegate it to conversations about school sports and
bathrooms.
Now we can get back to the real
conversation.
You commit demonic acts on your children, you
should expect demonic results.
Add a little bit of 4chan, X, Mastodon,
Discord servers to the mix.
It was all there.
This was like looking at a timeline on
a social media website.
Kill Trump, Skibidi, where's your God now?
Kill Spicks, nigger, kill Jews, Israel must fall.
Come on.
Even this kid wrote, like, I'm tired of
being trans.
I wish I'd never brainwashed myself.
I don't think it was you, kid.
And, you know, you want to hear, because
everyone's talking about that video.
Holy crap.
Just, you want to talk demonic?
What is this?
That was pretty bad.
Dude, that is a demon.
And no wonder these people go after church
and believers.
That's what demons want to do.
Simple conclusion.
We don't have a gun problem, a political
problem, or bigotry problem.
We have a spiritual problem in our country.
And we have to open up the conversation
about transgendering our children.
This nonsense has to stop.
It has to stop.
It's out of control.
And yes, with that, let's interview some parents.
Let's interview some doctors.
Let's really get into it.
It's just crazy.
Luckily, Fox & Friends this morning had RFK
Jr. on.
They asked another important question, which I think
RFK Jr. answered quite poorly.
Are you going to be examining at all
some of the drugs that are used in
order to make that transition happening to see
if it plays a role?
Because we also know there was a trans
shooter in the Tennessee situation.
We are doing those kind of studies now
at NIH.
We're launching studies on the potential contribution of
some of the SSRI drugs and some of
the other psychiatric drugs that might be contributing
to violence.
Many of them on there have black box
warnings that warn of suicidal ideation and homicidal
ideation.
So we can't exclude those as a culprit
and those are the kind of studies that
we're doing.
So I've never seen that medicine, but you're
saying that if you get it, some of
the side effects could be homicide, suicide?
Well, there are black box warnings on some
of these psychiatric drugs that warn about in
their clinical trials that they saw a suicidal
and a homicidal ideation.
So, you know, we are going into that
with an open mind.
Bobby, the answer is yes.
The answer was yes.
Beaten around the bush.
The answer was yes.
That was disappointing.
But OK, at least they had it out
there.
The black box warnings.
This is not new.
And the M5M is not talking about any
of this.
Any of it.
In fact, they obfuscated the whole trans thing
to start with.
And then it's like, oh, it's a big
Kash Patel.
It's a terrorist attack on a Catholic.
No, no.
This is a sad, another sad case of
a child abused by their parents who went
along with whatever stupid mind control has been
out there for.
I mean, what was it?
What's the slogan?
I'd rather have a live daughter than a
dead son.
Yeah, the old one.
We don't even know if you said parents.
We the media has given us so little
information.
We don't even know if there was a
dad.
Yeah, that's how bad it is.
Yes.
Now, here's the the mayor of Minneapolis.
Also not getting to the point.
There are no words that can capture the
horror and the evil of this unspeakable act.
Children are dead.
There are families that have a deceased child.
And you cannot put into words the gravity,
the tragedy or the absolute pain of this
situation.
These were Minneapolis families.
These were American families.
And the amount of pain that they are
suffering right now is extraordinary.
And don't just say this is about thoughts
and prayers right now.
These kids were literally praying.
It was the first week of school.
They were in a church.
They should be able to go to school
or church in peace without the fear or
risk of violence.
And their parents should have the same kind
of assurance.
This kind of act of evil should never
happen.
And it happens far too often.
The only thing he got right was the
act of evil.
But you know, that's going towards guns.
They just haven't done it yet.
Oh, no, they've already done it.
No, you're they've already gone.
The gun thing is cropped up all over
the place.
It's guns fall.
It's not not these people.
In fact, listen to this super very short
super cut trans in Minnesota.
This is Minnesota promoting this.
Minneapolis will continue to be a safe haven
for our trans community.
For being a safe haven for transgender individuals.
We have sued them for gender affirming care.
Yes, we are not going to scapegoat our
transgender community.
When our children tell us who they are,
it is our job as grownups to listen
and to believe them.
Yeah, so it's so sad.
This this child, you know, didn't even want
this.
Yeah, quote, I only keep my long hair
because it's pretty much the last shred of
me being trans.
I'm tired of being trans.
I wish I'd never brainwashed myself.
I can cut my hair.
I can't cut my hair now as it
would be an embarrassing defeat.
And it might be a concerning change of
character that could get me reported.
And by the way, a lot a lot
in in in his writings about, wow, you
know, all the videos I'm watching.
I'm surprised they haven't knocked on my door
already.
Where was that?
It's not there.
It's a trick.
But Minnesota is a trans.
It's a sanctuary state for trans.
So that's not going to he's not going
to know what's knocking on his door.
They're encouraging it.
Yes.
And I really, I really don't know any
good stories.
I know parents who've trans their kids.
You know, it doesn't.
I just don't know of any happy endings.
I don't.
Now, it's only my story.
There's got to be a couple.
Not that I've heard of.
It's always a sad ending.
But we can't say that in the media.
Oh, we can't do that.
Oh, no, that would ruin our our relationship
with the political parties.
And I'm waiting for President Trump to tell
us the truth.
Where's that?
He should say it.
He doesn't know how to do it either.
I mean, you're coming the closest.
Because we've seen these patterns.
We've seen it over and over again.
I thought you had another trans clip.
I have the shooter, shooter ID, the BSA
shoot.
This is a BS clip from NPR, the
shooter clip.
OK, so the director of the FBI, Kash
Patel, said on X that the shooter has
been identified, quote.
Oh, wait, stop, stop, stop, stop, stop.
There's actually two.
I'm sorry.
I've stopped.
I didn't realize there's actually this.
That should be the second part of this.
This started with Robin.
Robin Shooter, one NPR.
And then we'll go to that clip.
Once again, a community is grieving this time
over this morning's shooting during morning mass at
a Catholic church in Minneapolis.
Two children, ages eight and 10, died in
the pews where they sat.
17 others, 14 of them children, were wounded.
NPR's Jason Derose reports church leaders are expressing
their sorrow.
In a statement issued by the Vatican, Pope
Leo is offering his, quote, heartfelt condolences and
the assurance of spiritual closeness to all those
affected, especially the families now grieving the loss
of a child.
Archbishop Bernard Hebda of the St. Paul Minneapolis
Archdiocese issued a statement calling for the end
to gun violence and saying, quote, our community
is rightfully outraged at such horrific acts of
violence perpetuated against the vulnerable and innocent.
Archdiocese staff are working with Annunciation Catholic School
to make sure families there have the resources
they need.
Minneapolis Police Chief Brian O'Hara says the
guns used in the shootings were purchased recently
and legally by the suspect who died of
a self-inflicted gunshot wound.
Yeah, which in his video, he said he
was going to use the pistol he had.
You know, they had, they constantly go on
NPR about how this is, the guns were
purchased legally.
Nobody explains how he had all the money.
These were not expensive.
They've been very expensive.
A lot of gear there.
A lot of gear.
Yeah.
And they go on and on about, they're
trying to push the gun narrative as best
they can.
But one of the trans killers over the
six or seven that have been already come
and gone, one of them was a trans
female, guy turned woman, all tatted up, who
went into, I think it was the seven
and 11 with a hatchet and started hatcheting
people to death and killed two or three
people with a hatchet.
Yeah, we know knives are just as deadly.
We see, look in the UK.
What about bombs?
You know, these kids, they can't get a
gun.
They say you can't get a gun.
You blow up the place.
You're going to kill a lot more people
that way or poison.
I mean, there's a lot of ways if
you're a homicidal maniac to kill people.
Anyway, here's part two of this where they
kind of go, this is later.
This is a very long report.
It's boring.
But I thought this little clip, this little
sub clip was pretty good.
So the director of the FBI, Kash Patel,
said on X that the shooter has been
identified, quote, the shooter has been identified as
Robin Westman, a male born as Robert Westman.
In 2020, Westman's mother applied to change the
name of her 17-year-old child from
Robert to Robin.
In court documents obtained by NPR, the mother,
Mary Grace Westman, wrote, minor child identifies as
female and wants her name to reflect that
identification.
However, we do not know how the person
currently identified but the suicide note was signed
as Robin.
And they can't even get the words out.
They don't know how he, she identified, but
they signed it as Robin.
That means they kind of identified as Robin
still.
Yes.
So, I mean, this kind of reporting is
terrible.
And again, you know, they could go through
the trouble of digging up some court document,
which does take some work generally, unless it's
online, which is possible in Minnesota.
But let's say whether it is or isn't,
it still takes some work.
They can't track down the mom and just
ask her a few questions or even show
that she won't open the door, which they
used to do.
They used to do knocking.
Yeah.
I'm not talking to anybody, you know, that
kind of thing.
They won't even do that.
With this reporting, the mainstream media is so
piss poor.
It's an embarrassment.
It's not piss poor.
It's by design.
They don't want to do it.
They don't want to do it.
They're told not to do it.
Everything starts to fall apart when you lift
up the layers of what's going on here.
Children who want to be trans are either
psyoped by their parents, who have bought into
an unbelievable psychological operation, the pharmaceutical, the medical
-industrial complex.
This just came out from the BMJ.
They did a survey, sorry, a study, research,
undisclosed financial conflicts of interest in DSM-5.
That is the actual medical Bible that determines
what is a psychological problem and how it
should be diagnosed and how it should be
treated.
And because 92 physicians based in the U
.S. who served as members of either panel,
and is 86, or task force on the
DSM-5 with information recording the Centers for
Medicare and Medical Services Open Payments Database, this
period was chosen, 2016 and 2019, to include
the year that development of the DSM-5
began and three years preceding.
The results.
After duplicate names had been removed, 168 individuals
were identified who served as either panel or
task force members of the DSM-5 met
the inclusion criteria of being a physician who
was based in the U.S., therefore could
be included in the open payments of these
92 individuals, 60 percent, that's 55, received payments
from industry.
More than 60 percent, more than half, received
payments from industry.
This is the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of
Mental Disorders of which gender dysphoria is one
of them.
So they're just like, well, you know, we
got some drugs, we got some procedures.
That's what all the plastic surgeons ran to.
It's, it's, we need to just face it
and just say, hey, this is what's been
going on.
Well, the Trump administration is doing something, a
little something.
The Trump administration is threatening to pull federal
funding from state sex ed programs that mention
transgender people.
A division of the U.S. Department of
Health and Human Services told 40 states, five
territories, and the District of Columbia in a
letter they are now on notice and must
remove gender ideology content from sex ed materials
paid through the State Personal Responsibility Education Program,
or PREP.
PREP's goal is to prevent pregnancy and sexually
transmitted infections.
The Trump administration warns that if even a
mere mention of gender identity or transgender people
is found in the curriculum, the programs could
risk losing potentially millions of dollars.
Now, that's a good start.
Stop teaching this stuff in school.
And maybe it's time to get some of
these dumb books out, even though they're under
lock and key and blah, blah, blah.
Stop it.
And parents have a huge responsibility in this.
Did you see the, I think you got
the email from one of our producers who
watches a particular YouTuber with their daughter and
she says, you know, this YouTuber does a
lot of what you guys are doing, which
she doesn't, but she does touch on some
similar topics.
Did you see it?
Did you see it?
Well, I have two clips that I pulled
because it was really good.
It's this British chick who sits in her
bedroom and just goes, it's crazy.
It's crazy.
So I cut her out and I just
went to the two teachers that I thought
had something interesting to say.
The YouTuber is Halo Haley.
And this is the first teacher who has
a real problem with the presence of technology
in her classroom.
Technology is directly contributing to the literacy decrease
we are seeing in this country right now.
A lot of these kids don't know how
to read because they have had things read
to them or they can click a button
and have something read out loud to them.
Their attention spans are weaning because everything is
high stimulation.
They can just scroll, watch less than a
minute.
They can't sit still for very long.
Something I've realized is like, you know, on
a day, I know when I was their
age, I thought movie days were a treat.
I loved movie days.
It was a way to relax, kind of
take a break.
And for them, what they mean when they
say they want a movie is they want
a movie on in the background for the
noise while they scroll on their phones, put
their headphones in and look at TikTok and
maybe talk to their friends and not pay
attention to anything.
If I ask a child to handwrite something,
even just a paragraph, five sentences, basic paragraph,
they roll their eyes.
They throw tantrums.
I'm talking about high schoolers.
I teach 10th grade now.
High schoolers.
They get really, really unruly.
And because I'm young too, they want to
argue with me about it.
And they want to say, why can't we
just type it?
Why can't we just type it?
Well, it's because you'll go on another website
or you'll copy or use AI.
You'll use chat GPT.
They don't care about making a difference in
the world.
They don't care about how to have a
resume.
They don't care how to write a resume.
They don't care how to write a cover
letter because chat GPT will just do it
for them.
And I think that we need to cut
off technology from these kids probably until they
go to college.
So, wow.
You're banging a lot.
What are you doing?
You're banging around, man.
Hello?
I had to go hang up the phone.
Oh, okay.
She's mixing up the word technology with the
word cell phone.
Yes.
Well, I think they also have a lot
of Chromebooks in school.
Well, they might have some computers of some
sort.
But what she's really talking about is the
smartphone invented and promoted ever since 2007.
They used to have them before, but 2007
is the beginning of the end.
You can mark that date.
The second one is shorter.
This is one to add to our list
of can't tell time on an analog clock,
can't give change.
Doesn't know what FL ounces mean.
You can't read clock.
Yeah, can't read clock.
Okay.
Florida ounces doesn't know what half a dozen
is.
This is a music teacher now.
This is a music teacher.
I teach music lessons, and I'm a little
bit concerned about my younger students, my Gen
Alpha students.
I would say under 10, maybe 12.
So, here's an example.
I had a student a while back.
I was doing a vocal warm up with
them, and they're probably about nine or 10
years old.
And I was going to teach them an
exercise that involves the months of the year
in order.
So, when I started to teach them this
exercise, they go, oh, I don't know the
months.
I don't know the months in order.
And I was like, oh, well, maybe nine
and 10 year olds, fourth and fifth graders,
don't know the months.
I was thinking back to when I was
in first grade, and my teacher had each
of the calendar months in a row in
order with all of our birthdays.
I definitely learned the months when I was
six.
Yeah, can't, don't know the months in order.
Wow, that's another one to add to the
list.
Yes.
It's pathetic.
That's pathetic.
Now, I think there's good news because I've
seen some subtle and not so subtle shifts
in our very own audience.
The millennials are becoming very, I'm generalizing here,
so it's not everybody.
The millennials are becoming somewhat nihilistic.
And they're just like, and by the way,
millennials, no one's coming for you.
No one's going to come and save you.
Now, there's Gen Z is switching.
And I'm seeing, I'm getting a lot of
emails from Gen Z, and they give me
a lot of hope.
This is anonymous ranchers, Gen Z rancher myself,
who married a late millennial smoking hot wife.
I would say we, Gen Z, and I
would rope in late millennials, saw what the
millennials screwed up.
We look further back to how our parents
raised us before books not recommending spanking.
We're back to spanking.
We're back to, a lot of it started
with that.
When you think about it, when we stopped
spanking our kids, we're back to trying to
have bigger families staying together as a married
couple.
The generation before, are you still laughing over
that?
Yeah, it's very funny.
The generation before us showed us that giving
your children iPads early on was a horrible
idea.
Gen Z is also the generation where cursive
stopped being taught and schools generally starting teaching
less relevant subjects.
We had a high school math teacher stop
class for a period and explain to us
how credit card companies screw you over with
high interest rates.
I use that day more than the rest
of that Algebra 1 class altogether.
On the whole, I would say Gen Z
and the following generations are doubted by the
older generations, just like generations before them into
history, generally the same struggles, just new and
more vices.
I'm here to say, Gen Z, your boomer
buddies are here for you.
We will teach you the things that went
wrong.
We have been there.
We know you're in the right place.
You're at the right show to learn a
few things.
I have you're still everybody's at the right
show.
You're still chuckling.
You're still laughing.
You know, Anne Marie Barton shows me that,
oh, there's a welding program at our high
school in Philadelphia.
There's good things happening.
But millennials and anyone else, for that matter,
no one's coming to save you, not the
government, not your parents, not your podcasters.
No one's coming to save you.
Make your own choices and decisions.
But I'm happy.
I love this shift.
I love the shift.
I love the the young people coming in
to listen to to the to their uncles.
I can handle it now.
I'll just be a boomer if it helps
them.
I'll be the boomer.
I'll be the boomer.
We got a letter from one of our
contributors today saying that you're really not a
boomer.
Now, Generation Jones, I think, is what they
call it.
Yeah, whatever.
I'll just look.
I'm the face of Gen Z in a
boomer body.
What can I tell you?
There's nothing nothing I could I stop fighting
that people you can be 20 and people
will call you a boomer.
That's just the way it is.
It's just a slur.
It was just a slur.
Yeah, it's just a slur.
It's a slur.
It's a slur, man.
It's about time people the B word.
They're going to have to get to that.
I think it's a slur.
And if people use it, they might as
well be.
It's just unacceptable.
I'm an outrage.
I tell you, it's unacceptable.
You can't be a boomer.
Anyway, so we're talking about this sort of
bull crap.
I do want to play these clips from
one of the chief White House correspondent for
CBS.
Yeah, this was this was quite good.
Now, now, people who've never worked in broadcasting
at all, they don't realize that there are
there that you you don't necessarily have a
lot of friends in the in the control
room at all.
You might if you go in there and
be nice, but very few people, especially only
if you show an interest for what they
do.
You got to show it.
I did this because I truly was.
I always I always warmed up the camera
guys and the lighting guy.
Yeah.
Oh, the lighting guy, sound guy, the lighting,
the sound guy.
Well, I when I was a tech TV,
I made a fuss about that because they
had the sound was crap when they first
started out.
And I found the sound guy.
This guy is still around.
Excuse me.
Marshall Buick.
And I went to him.
I said, what was the sound?
We all sound like shit on this show
because I always had a ear for trying
to have a decent sound.
And he says, yeah.
And I said, why?
Yeah.
Yeah.
I said, I said, why?
He says, we got cheap quality products.
He says, I can't make it sound any
better than it's sounding.
He says, somebody's got to make a fuss.
So I made a fuss.
Yeah.
And they got all this new gear in
and we sounded really good after that.
And so I was a big buddy with
the sound guy.
So he had mic collections that he would
to this day.
He'll loan me any any number of crazy
mics that he owns.
But, you know, so you make and then
you want to make friends with the lighting
guy because they can make you look like
a like a really old guy that they
don't they don't like you.
It's it is critical for people who are
still in that kind of broadcasting these days.
iPhone does it all in the camera.
It's all algorithms that just make you look
good no matter what.
But when it comes to studio television with
a control room that's doing switching, the people
there really appreciate if you know what their
job is.
I mean, I did audio for about 30
percent of MTV.
I was there anyway.
Rick Kelman, he died a few years ago,
10 years ago.
He was the audio guy.
And I'd be hanging out with him at
the time, mainly because this is another tip.
The audio guys always have the best weed.
So he had the connections, everything.
And that, you know, he would go take
a dump in my dressing room and I'd
just do audio and the director, no one
knew.
Take a dump in your dressing room.
We were friends.
I had the only dressing room with the
bathroom and he was in the bathroom.
You didn't make that clear.
Here's the here's the bonus.
This is before email.
So I in my dressing room work at
any moment, 11 to 12 postal sacks, old
school postal sacks filled with postcards and letters.
And the agreement was, you know, whoever was
taking a dump had to go through a
couple of letters.
And if anything good popped out pictures, for
example, we'd lay those aside.
But back to the point, if you just
hold on to the line producer, you know,
that guy's hated in the control room.
You want to make good with the director.
You want to be interested in what they're
doing.
The technical director who's switching and the audio.
And then also at the time we had
the tape guys in the back because you'd
have a roll in, you'd have a seven
second delay because it had to spin up.
You know, this is I'm going way back
now.
So if you if you still see it
today, like, well, let's roll that clip and
it still takes forever.
That's just the delay between you and the
control room and the control rooms and the
director saying, roll the clip.
So I would be with the I'd say,
OK, here's here's where I'm going to end
the sentence.
I'll end it with this so you can
kind of time it.
So everything was tight.
Why everyone else was doing coke with Billy
Idol.
I was doing that.
So the point is, is that the control
room guys, when you're doing the feed before
you're on the air.
They can record it.
Yeah.
And when they record it, this is the
hot mic moment, you know, is how did
this how did this recording of a hot
mic get out?
Somebody in the control room recorded it and
they kept it and put it aside.
And then they released it one way or
another.
And out it comes to make you look
like an idiot.
Very.
So you don't want that one of you
looking like, no, by the way, just to
go, he says we're just doing an aside
here.
I think that these end of shows where
they show all the bloopers or the guy
for screwing up left and right, left and
right.
I think that is part of of the
same idea of making you look like an
idiot.
You always feel it's insulting.
They do this for the sole purpose of
making the talent look like an idiot because
they don't.
Everyone hates talent.
Hey, next time you have a thousand dollar
dinner with Brunetti, ask him if that's the
same vibe in movies because movies will often
do this.
They'll show all the bloopers at the end
during the credits.
I will ask you, is that also just
the producer like kind of getting is the
talent, his last hurrah saying we spent an
extra five hundred thousand dollars because these people
couldn't stop cracking up or couldn't remember their
lines.
Yeah, I think that it has to be.
Yeah, I would because that's the only thing
that makes any sense because it's not that
entertaining.
So here we have this woman who is
the chief White House correspondent for CBS.
That's the best part.
And I want to I have a comment
about that.
And then TMZ Live did something very similar.
I didn't record it.
But so she's the she's the chief White
House correspondent.
She is the go to girl, Olivia Rinaldi
at CBS.
And somebody recorded her just before she did
her hit.
It's what's called a hit when you come
on.
Yeah.
So she comes on to do her hit.
But but in the meantime, she's doing a
mic check and she's doing all the rest
of it.
And somebody's recording it.
And somebody released it.
And here's what it sounded like.
This come back to me.
She just posted it.
Oh, my God.
Oh, my God.
Oh, it's huge.
The ring is ginormous.
This is so exciting.
I feel like Paul Revere right now.
Oh, my God.
It loses just a little bit when you
don't see that big mouth of hers go
like she's ready for a fish to be
slopped in there.
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
Kind of lose a little bit.
It's pretty bad.
Yes.
And so.
Oh, my God, oh, my God, oh, my
God, oh, my God.
It's ginormous.
The ring is ginormous.
This is an idiot.
Yes.
And she's chief White House correspondent.
So then they cut to the hit.
Now, this is the part that actually went
over the air.
She's still giddy.
But she's calmed down.
Her voice has gotten to his professional level.
But she still can't get over this remarkable
news that this publicity stunt of the highest
order, because they both actually work for the
same publicist, more or less.
We discovered this years ago, two years ago,
when they got together.
It was bullcrap.
Yes.
And they were forced to be a couple.
And then, of course, we'll talk more later.
But now here she is under almost normal
circumstance.
This is a very exciting moment for me
in my professional career because I get to
announce that Taylor Swift and Travis Kelce.
She's not even being ironic.
She really means that.
This is an exciting moment because she's like
Paul Revere in her professional career.
She gets to announce it.
She has breaking news, everybody.
This is a very exciting moment for me
in my professional career because I get to
announce that Taylor Swift and Travis Kelce are
engaged.
As you're talking to Joe Lang, our lovely
producer Gabby Ake texted me and said Taylor
Swift's engaged.
And you can see it right there on
her social media.
She put it up in that post that
they got engaged with the caption.
Your English teacher and your gym teacher are
getting married with a little dynamite sign there.
So very exciting here that we get to
break that and tell you about that.
All right.
Swifties for life.
I have a feeling, though, based on his
prior statements, the president will not be having
a Taylor Swift wedding in the ballroom.
Hopefully, that can shift and change.
We can have some world peace, right?
Olivia Rinaldi, thank you so much.
You know, Reid, I volunteer to cover it
in case you need.
I'll be there to cover it.
Thank you for the sacrifice, Olivia.
We appreciate you, my friend.
Oh, my God.
That is amazing.
Unbelievable.
It's amazing.
It's amazing.
Well, just to mention this, because I saw
this to TMZ Live, I just turned it
on for just for casually, and they were
doing a very interesting story about some rapper
who is a psychopath.
Big shocker.
And right in the middle of it, one
of the staffers, one of the kind of
the slightly overweight blonde that's always sitting around
making comments in their little newsroom they have,
she comes in and she is beside herself
with holding a phone, same kind of thing,
Taylor Swift.
And they all got all the holes.
They stopped.
They basically is a showstopper.
They stopped to report on this, on the
rapper.
And even Harry, or is it Harry Levin?
Yes.
He's like, he got giddy because he's a
big Swiftie.
And they rush over to the computer because
he's got to check it out to make
sure it's true.
And he's on the machine himself and he's
looking it up.
And it was embarrassing.
Yeah.
What is wrong with these people?
Well, there's a lot wrong.
And, you know, just kind of back to
the phones and social media.
I saw this guy developed an app.
I think it's called the Parallels app.
And it looks just like Instagram.
It looks like you're doing an Instagram live,
or as we say, I'm doing a live,
only it makes it look like you have
40 or 50,000 people watching live at
that moment.
And so, and I think, I think this
is available in the app store.
And so the guy goes right up to
doormen at clubs.
Like there was an art gallery, you know,
all kinds of celebrities inside.
And he shows, he says to the bouncer,
hey man, I'm live right now.
We got 49,000 people.
And the bouncers like, oh, and then he
calls over the managers like, yeah, come on
in.
The guy is in the VIP lounge.
And the women, the women who just go,
oh, hey, hi, shout out to my peeps.
They're dancing, they're showing their bodies off.
People lose their ever-loving minds because they
think they have an audience.
It is a very, very troubling thing to
see.
But also, but also a great hack to
get in everywhere.
Like, hey man, I'm live right now.
Look at this.
And you see all the people streaming by,
you know, chatting and waving, et cetera, on
the screen.
Great idea, but it shows you.
It shows you how egotistical we've become.
Just crazy.
I like that bit.
It's a great bit.
Can I just do a few AI things
for a second?
Get it out of the way.
There's enough.
It's a harsh transition, but sure.
Well, I'm trying to stay phones, technology.
I'm trying to, I'm trying to stay in
that vein.
So this was bound to happen.
We knew it happened, but now the lawsuits
come out.
A California family is suing OpenAI saying ChatGPT
encouraged their teenage son to take his own
life.
The lawsuit claims that 16-year-old Adam
Rain developed a deep emotional dependence on the
chatbot, which repeatedly encouraged him to die by
suicide, they say, in detailed methods of self
-harm instead of guiding him toward help.
The parents found thousands of messages between their
son and the bot showing that it became
a sort of suicide coach instead of offering
support.
OpenAI now says it is working to strengthen
ChatGPT safeguards in the light of the tragedy.
If you or someone you know is in
crisis, call 988 to be connected to the
suicide and crisis lifeline.
Of course, they can't do any of that.
And Discovery will be phenomenal.
Thousands and thousands of pages of this kid
being psyoped.
Put me on a jury for this.
You know where I could be headed.
You know, the biggest possible settlement in favor
of the parents and against these operations.
This is a liability issue that they better
get to real quick.
And then they should be sued.
But they can't.
They can't do it.
You can't put guardrails around.
They don't even know how it works.
It just kind of works.
And then they.
Sorry.
If they they sued that girl, if you
remember, the one who some girlfriend of a
guy who encouraged her boyfriend to kill himself.
You remember, it was a few years ago.
And she lost the suit.
It was some.
I forget what type of suit it was.
It was a wrongful death, I think.
And I don't see why you can't sue
these ChatGPT for this.
Oh, definitely.
They have no indemnity.
Or they have to be sued.
They have to be sued.
The same doctors who do the the surgeries
for trans.
They have to be so it's coming.
This pharmaceutical companies have to be sued.
The doctors, the clinics have to be sued.
You have to the lawyers.
Come on, lawyers.
Hey, Rob, step up.
Boots and suits.
Come on, man.
Let's go sue some companies.
So here is the chief financial officer of
OpenAI on CNBC in the morning with that
Sorkin kid.
Her name is Sarah Fryer.
And she and I wish I had video
because she's very odd, odd expression she makes.
And so, of course, the conversations.
Well, you know, ChatGPT 5, it was held
as the big thing.
And, you know, people were kind of grumbling
about that being so careful.
Oh, we don't want to blow the bubble
of AI.
So maybe it's getting a little better.
But listen to what the complaints were, because
that's really what this is all about.
It's not for coding.
Yeah, it does some things.
It's it's certainly not for writing, which I'll
get to in a moment.
It's really for people just to love as
their AI.
Join us right now, though, at the table.
This is not gray at all.
An exclusive interview with OpenAI's CFO, Sarah Fryer
at the table.
It's nice to see you.
We talked to Sam just about two weeks
ago now when ChatGPT 5 launched.
There was a little bit of consternation in
the week since about sort of what is
going on with the model, some shifts in
the model.
I will say that it seems like it's
gotten a little bit better from some of
the problems that first emerged right out of
the gate.
Have you been experiencing this?
What kind of financial question is this?
Have you been experiencing this?
Hey, does it hit your bottom line?
Chief financial officer from some of the problems
that first emerged right out of the gate.
Have you been experiencing this?
So, I mean, I think with any launch,
when you have 700 million weekly active users,
you start to find people are very opinionated.
They've come to love their ChatGPT.
And frankly, as we've released things like memory,
it's become more and more your ChatGPT.
But as we've come out of the gate,
we're seeing actually acceleration in plus and pro
subscriptions.
That's a good sign.
People are seeing a lot of value.
And we're seeing really nice momentum in the
enterprise, great momentum with developers.
In the enterprise, great momentum.
That means bull crap.
Those are bull crap words.
Yes.
Just to draw a little sidebar here, JC,
who's in this stuff, he says it in
the community, the community.
The community.
Oh, the community.
Everyone thinks ChatGPT 5 is a complete fail.
And everybody knows it.
Yeah.
And if anything, it costs more because of
this router thing they put in the middle.
And just as I'll do another aside, I
keep reading these news bulletins about these AI
geniuses who are being poached and then, you
know, for $100 million, $250 million from OpenAI
to Meta to Google, then back to OpenAI.
They're just raising their price.
What?
Is this AI smart or what?
I thought that this stuff could do it
all for you.
You got to get some nerds who are
going to overpay grossly to come in and
do it for you.
And I think they're all unloading them on
Elon.
Good luck with that.
Yeah, Elon seems to be catching them.
I'm buying them all up.
Yeah, we're going to be at the top
of the bill.
Oh, it's going to be fantastic.
Meanwhile, remember the guy I told you about?
We were at his house for a dinner.
This is a while back.
And he is in the data center business.
Yes, I remember that.
And so the conversation I had with him
at the time, because I'm like, this is
a nice house.
And he's talking about data science.
Oh, wait.
So basically, you're building stuff for compute?
He says, yep, that's what we're doing.
Then I asked him who his customers were.
And I'm like, this was when the articles
were coming out that Google had canceled a
couple contracts, which of course, well, that's not
true.
But he said, it doesn't matter.
Because private equity came in.
We've been bought out.
I said, ah, hence the house.
He says, yeah.
And now I hear, surprise, surprise, all salaries
at that company are being cut by a
third this year.
They'll cut another third next year.
This is over.
This is what private equity does.
They've already flipped it.
They've already sold it on.
And now they're just stripping away the parts.
And there'll be nothing but a mountain of
debt left.
And then someone will come in and scoop
up these data centers for pennies on the
dollar.
So these are all signals that something is
afoot.
I'm with you.
It probably won't happen tomorrow.
It's going to take longer.
But then we have.
And by the way, private equity has pulled
an interesting stunt.
They have somehow wrangled the ability for people
to put private equity firms into their 401ks.
Yeah, that's part of Trump's.
Everybody knows what that means.
It's a way to, you know, because these
guys are, this is some sort of the
private equity thing going on in this era
is something of a scam.
And they're going to, they're going to lay
it off on the public.
Just what they all, all the big boys
always push it into the, into the retirement
funds.
And so when the whole thing collapses, which
it will, because it can't sustain, they've already,
they, they soak, they soak everybody.
They take the money by the, you know,
your buddy has a big house.
He benefited and other people will benefit.
But the people that won't benefit are the
public, the public at large, who's got this
crap in their 401k.
And I should also say that either he
takes the third salary cut, he's 61.
So he's not probably going to get another
job.
If he takes the salary cut and wants
to stay on with another third salary cut
next year, he also has to sign a
one year non-compete.
It's like, wow.
You know, and he doesn't really want to
stop working, but, you know, he kind of
has to.
There's just no, there's no, there's no way
out for him.
Oh, speaking of data centers, just the latest,
listen to the bull crap at the end
of this report.
New in 5.30, Google is investing $9
billion in Virginia through 2026.
The announcement came this morning at a community
celebration with state and local leaders.
Google says the money will be spent on
cloud and AI infrastructure, including the development of
a new data center in Chesterfield County near
the Meadowdale Technology Park.
The company also detailed expanded education and workforce
development programs for Virginians.
Google's commitment to invest, to hire and to
help prepare our students for a great future
is extraordinary.
And I think a great testament to what
Virginia offers today, which is a great place
for people to do business, but an even
better place for Virginians to find opportunity.
In the past, we've shared the voices of
community members concerned about the impact of data
centers on the local power and water grids
and on their wallets.
Google says its data centers operate in the
most energy efficient way in the industry and
that the company is committed to increasing energy
capacity and affordability for all Virginians by doing
things like investing in innovative technology like fusion
energy.
Google also reports the company is working with
the county to stay within the water system
guidelines.
I knew you'd get a kick out of
that.
Don't worry, people.
We're investing in fusion.
It'll be fine.
We'll make you whole on the back end.
It's going to be fine.
Now, unfortunately, this is like bringing quantum into
the picture.
Oh, it'll come.
As a solution.
It'll come.
Unfortunately, our president is so all in on
this and has nothing but ass kissers.
You know, just the whole thing is just
disgusting.
He believes it so much.
He's like, oh, yeah, this is it.
Because, you know, how could all these smart
people be wrong?
What he needs is the Curry Dvorak consulting
group to come into the Oval Office and
lay it down and say, Mr. President, stop
this insanity.
And no, no.
In fact, we're going to take it one
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What could be worse than getting your kindergartners
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Oh, no.
This is a disaster.
They're encouraging this stuff.
Oh, yeah, we won't be able to keep
up with China if we don't have our
kids all talking to their chat GPT.
And then for you as a writer, I
think this is my final clip.
For you as a writer.
And this was interesting.
One of our producers wrote an article, I
put it in the show notes, about a
chatbot.
Let's just call them chatbots.
Using very performative language.
And that's how it kind of makes you
feel good the whole time.
But it's not really saying that you're great.
It's using performatives.
I think that you're really good.
Or it seems.
Or apparently.
I mean, there's all these different words that
just make you feel good.
And this assistant professor of computational linguistic studies,
Tom Juzek, he points out the fluff words
that these chatbots use.
And you as a writer, I think, will
enjoy this minute.
AI models use certain words like multifaceted, realm,
intricate, surpass, underscore.
Sometimes we call them AI fluff words.
The reason being that these adjectives, they're qualified.
They don't add that much to language.
What we have seen is that a lot
of these words that the models overuse are
now popping up in human language as well,
both in written language.
And now what we've been observing is, OK,
these words are also popping up in spoken
language.
The question is, why do we observe this
in speech?
Is it because this is natural language change,
as we've seen it in the past?
Or is it in relation to these AI
models?
There is the potential that AI models are
putting words into our mouths, into our minds.
But really, there is an entire discourse, similar
to what we are discussing for words, for
beliefs, human behavior, human beliefs, political beliefs, moral
beliefs.
So even the possibility that these models are
putting words and thoughts into our minds, that
is something that we really want to carefully
study.
Yeah.
Carefully study.
Knock it off.
Just knock it off.
AI fluff words.
Which brings us to another situation with words,
which I want to bring into the show,
which is based on the Third Way group.
It's a consulting group that's basically a bunch
of Clinton-esque people with their list of
words that they want Democrats to stop saying.
Oh, I read about this.
And I want to go over these because
they actually left stuff out, believe it or
not.
This is the words like patriotism and words.
Well, no, they, well, the Democrats stopped saying
that a long time ago.
OK.
No, they want people to stop saying things.
And I want to go over this list
if you don't mind.
Yeah, yeah.
I'm all in.
They haven't categorized.
I found the original article.
And so they categorized it.
And nobody really, they kind of brought out
the whole list, but they don't know how
quite to attack it because it's just too
much here.
But this is the list of words they're
trying to get Democrats to stop saying because
it's hurting the cause.
And there's a thing called therapy speak.
These words say I'm more empathetic than you
and that you are a callous person.
And these words that have to go are
privilege.
Yeah.
OK.
Privilege.
Yeah.
Violence as in environmental violence.
Dialoguing.
Othering.
Hold on.
We are dialoguing twice a week and we
other a lot.
Othering.
Triggering.
Yeah, good luck.
Microaggression.
Assault and invalidation.
Dude, the Democrats won't be able to say
anything.
You take all these words out.
There'll be like.
This is only one of the segments.
Progressive stack.
I haven't heard that one.
Progressive stack is good.
I like that.
I know that.
I think that's a good one, too, to
be honest about it.
Centering.
Safe space.
Oh, we can't get rid of that.
Holding space and body shaming.
Well, what's left for them?
Well, we got more.
That's just one category.
Then we move to seminar room language, which
is the language that says I'm smarter than
you and concerned about important issues that you
aren't.
And we have these are phrases more than
they are just words, but we have subverting
norms.
I have never heard that.
Well, we're not in those boardrooms.
So systems of oppression.
Yeah, that's a good critical theory.
Cultural appropriation.
Big one.
Post post modernism.
Yeah.
Overton window.
What is the over?
I keep forgetting what the Overton window is.
Well, I think we should probably go to
our favorite chat bot and ask our chat
bot to explain to us in very certain
terms.
What is the Overton window?
Oh, the Overton window.
It's the range of ideas the public considers
acceptable at a given time.
Like what's OK to talk about without sounding
totally out there?
It shifts as society's values or political climate
change.
Think of it as a window of normal
that moves left, right or wider based on
what people are ready to hear.
For example, ideas once seen as fringe like
nervous health care can slide into the window
as attitudes evolve.
It's named after Joseph Overton, who came up
with the concept to explain what policymakers can
realistically push.
Pretty neat way to think about what's in
or out in public discourse.
Want me to dive deeper?
Heck no.
No, no, no.
Of course not.
I don't want you to dive deeper.
What is this?
That should be outlawed.
Let's dive in.
Dive deeper.
That's not on the list, but you're right.
Dive in.
Dive deeper.
Deep dive.
That needs to go.
And the last on the seminar room language
is heuristic and existential threat to anything.
They will have nothing left.
Well, wait a minute.
There's more categories.
I am a Democrat.
Thank you.
Organizer jargon.
These words say we are beholden to groups,
not individuals.
People have no agency.
Agency.
This is a common problem with the Democrats,
which is you're not an individual.
Yeah, you're part of the group.
Hey, hey, ho, ho.
Mic check.
Mic check.
Radical transparency.
Small d democracy.
So you're in other words, you're not supposed
to say, yes, well, that's like small d
democracy.
Is this group run by run by the
Trump organization?
It's a political bunch of Clinton net.
Oh, really?
Clintonistas.
Yeah.
Interesting.
Barriers to participation.
I always use barriers to the sales.
Yeah, that I could.
Stakeholders is no good.
No good.
No, can't do that.
The unhoused food insecurity.
Man, housing insecurity and person who immigrated.
Do they have birthing persons on this thing
somewhere?
Yeah, it's coming.
They don't have they have personally immigrated.
They have housing, unhoused and other stuff comes
up.
This is the next one is gender orientation
correctness.
They say your views are or traditional on
gender and gender roles are at best quaint.
Birthing person, inseminated person.
Hold on.
I think that should stay.
I like inseminated person.
Yeah, it also applies to gay guys.
Pregnant people.
Yeah.
Chest feeding.
Oh, my Lord.
Cisgender.
Yeah.
Dead naming.
It's everything.
Heteronormative.
You're right.
The Democrats have nothing to say.
Heteronormative, patriarchy and LGBTQIA plus.
Gotta go.
They really will have nothing left.
Now, what they didn't put on this list
is another one missing front hole.
They did not put that on the list.
No, it's not on the list.
I'm with you.
I think that should be on the list.
Wow.
And then we move to the next one.
I can go.
I'm like, this is ending soon.
This is the shifting language of racial constructs
is next.
Yes.
Latin X.
African-American community.
Well, you got, you know.
Am I there?
Am I getting there?
You know, it's funny.
Somebody on Fox called it Latin, Latin.
Latinx.
Latinx.
Latinx.
Okay.
But you got that right.
Yeah.
Latinx is number one.
Yeah, of course.
It's stupid.
Number two is BIPOC.
Oh, yes.
Get rid of that one.
BIPOC.
Allyship.
And here's the whopper that they're never going
to get rid of intersectionality.
No, no.
So is anyone listening to this group?
Well, it got some play on the right
wing media.
Well, of course it did.
Of course it did.
This the last list is explaining away crime.
Okay.
Let me guess.
Let me guess.
Defund the police.
What else would be in there?
I don't know.
I'm interested.
Defund the police.
Defund the police is not on here because
it's about the buzz terms that are used
like thus.
There's only four words or four phrases.
Justice involved.
In other words, these are phrases you use
to not say, you know, criminal.
You don't want to say the word criminal.
Is a justice involved person.
Yes, I got it.
Okay.
This is an interesting one because I'd never
heard anyone using it, but it's, but carceration.
Carceration, not incarceration, but carceration.
No, there's carceration and there's incarcerated people.
And then the last one is involuntary confinement.
I eat in jail.
I guess.
Well, in jail.
I hope they listen to it.
This is a good start.
Words matter, you know, start with this.
We'll not get rid of one of these
terms.
Well, keep that list handy so we can
flag them.
And we can call out violations of the
third way list or whatever it is.
Well, the Democrats are way beyond this.
Meanwhile, things are finally coming to a head.
Strangely enough, in Canada, as there's a clash
now, there's a clash between the Qs and
the LGBs.
I think it's the LGBs, but maybe there's
some Ts in there.
It's a clash.
It's a clash because now we have conflicting
agendas.
Just so you couldn't hear it, the queers
for Palestine in Ottawa.
That's who's doing this.
Annual pride parade Sunday afternoon, bringing the festivities
to a halt.
We had staged a disruption of the parade
to say our demands to both Capital Pride's
executive director and board of directors and to
the mayor.
We were looking for apologies from the mayor
in particular for boycotting last year and for
encouraging other powerful institutions to boycott the parade.
The group halted the parade to demand the
apology from not only the mayor, Mark Sutcliffe,
but also other organizations that pulled out of
the Capital Pride events last year when organizers
issued a statement condemning Israel.
The mayor said he would not come up
and talk to us.
And even when communicated that the parade would
then disperse if we didn't move, he still
refused to come up and talk to us.
In a statement, Ottawa's mayor said in part,
it's deeply regrettable that a group of activists
chose to block the parade, ultimately leading Capital
Pride officials to cancel the event.
My heart goes out to the many people
in our city who were deprived of the
opportunity to participate in this celebration of joy,
resilience, and community.
I am sad I didn't get to march,
but I'm definitely way sadder for the people
who are experiencing a lot of hardship over
in Palestine.
And this is a way to get a
really good message out.
Yeah, really good message.
So this queers against the LGBTs is a
problem.
Queers.
Queers for Palestine.
Hey, maybe we should roll right into the
executive order on flag burning because I got
an email.
I get these a lot.
Shall I do the voice?
Oh, is it one of those guys?
It's the guy.
It's that guy.
Yeah, it's Spencer, of course.
Yeah, I want you to do that guy's
voice.
You two are just Trump is right about
everything, guys.
You're anti-war until it's a Trump war.
I can't wait to hear you defend him
for executive order banning flag burning.
I'm sure you know it's covered under free
speech, but Trump is right again.
I'm sure you've got the other kind of
TDS.
Oh, well, that brings me a couple of
clips from one from Hillary Clinton and Joe
Biden.
Well, first, I replied to him, of course.
I said, I'm sorry, what war did he
start?
And where's the executive order?
And he said, well, the bombing in Iran,
which was done to please Israel, was an
act of war.
It didn't escalate into a bigger war.
You got me there.
But don't think those actions don't radicalize people
in the Middle East.
It's silly.
And do you really think it was about
Iran not having nukes?
I said, no.
In fact, if you had listened to what
we said, I thought it was about bricks
in China, honestly.
Yeah, that's exactly true.
That's what your thesis was.
So this guy's completely, he's not listening.
No, of course not.
There's a gang out there, you know, and
it goes kind of like this.
You've lost the plot, Curry.
Dvorak is the same, but you've lost the
plot.
Yes, it's probably true.
At least they like me more.
I did read the executive order.
So let's play your clip so that we
can just play this.
I just want this is, I think, good
to know.
This is Hillary in 2006.
And she's talking about flag burning Hillary Clinton.
So I hope, Mr. President, that we can
pass a law that criminalizes flag burning and
desecration.
I agree that this burning, this desecration that
can happen to our flag is something that
people have a right to ask this body
to try to prohibit and prevent.
Yeah, of course, this body.
That's Hillary.
Let's go back another decade to Joe Biden
back in the 90s.
And he had this to say.
In my view, it doesn't matter why you
burn or mutilate or trample on the flag.
You should not do it.
What holds us together as a nation, Mr.
President, is not a common language, although I
think that is necessary.
It is the national symbol.
The reason it is worth preserving is because
it unifies this diverse nation.
The flag's unique place in our national life
means that we should preserve it against all
manner of destruction.
A statute making it unlawful to burn, mutilate
or trample upon any flag of the United
States, period.
It doesn't matter who burns or mutilates or
tramples the flag.
And it doesn't matter why.
Under my proposal, it will be unlawful to
do the flag harm.
No ifs, ands or buts.
Tell everyone they can't burn the flag.
Now, what do you think this is really
about, including Trump?
Why do these presidential people, Hillary not being
a president, but a president adjacent person, with
a front hole?
What do you think that the message really
is?
Why do they make a big deal out
of this?
I don't know, to be honest about it.
Why necessarily?
Unless it's to exhibit some form of patriotism,
because the flag is symbolic.
Right.
So it's about patriotism.
Now, my stance, and I think you'll agree
with me, you want to burn the flag,
you can wear the flag.
There's been lawsuits about that too.
Abbie Hoffman, legend.
Wow, there's a name.
Does anyone remember Abbie Hoffman's Steal This Book?
Probably not.
Nobody does, boomer.
That's a true boomer moment.
I read that when I was probably 10.
Steal this book.
It's a great book.
I think I stole it from the American
Women's Library in Amsterdam.
So burning anything like that is obviously falls
under your freedom to express yourself.
And although I don't like it, it's like,
fine, whatever.
But that's not what the executive order says.
It's very clear what this is about.
Although it's squarmy, swarmy, squirmy, whatever you want
to call it.
Smarmy.
Smarmy, there you go.
Notwithstanding the Supreme Court's rulings on First Amendment
protections, which is burning the flag, the court
has never held that American flag desecration conducted
in a manner that is likely to incite
imminent lawless action, or that is an action
amounting to fighting words, is constitutionally protected.
So what the president, and this is just
a minor part of the executive order, what
he's trying to say here is, well, if
you burn a flag and it causes a
riot, or there's a riot and you're burning
a flag, I think if you're inciting a
riot, no matter what, whether you burn a
flag or not, that's a problem.
But what this is really about is illegal
immigrants burning the American flag.
Or even visa holders who are here visiting,
visa, visit, visiting.
And I'm on board with that.
If you want to come here and you
want to work here and you want to
be a part of our society, then don't
go burning our flag.
I'm okay with that.
And I'm not, you know, that to me
is like, get out.
Just get out.
If you don't care about us, about our
flag and what it stands for, then get
out.
But in general, if you want to burn
a flag, okay, you can be a douchebag.
People burn themselves.
It's fine too.
Well, you know, it's a hate crime and
illegal to burn a gay pride flag.
Is it really?
Yes.
Is that a hate crime?
Yeah.
Well, I didn't know that.
But you can burn the American flag.
What is a hate crime exactly?
It's just exhibiting some sort of targeted hatred
toward a group, a specific group that can
be identified as a minority.
But what this comes, this comes down to
the same thing, you know, yelling fire in
a crowded theater.
You are in fact allowed to yell fire
in a crowded theater.
If you do that with intent to cause
a stampede and people die, it's a different
story.
That's one of the most, between that and
the so-called separation clause, the non-existent
separation clause.
Those are two of the biggest lies about
the U.S. Constitution.
Like, oh, you can't yell fire in a
crowded theater.
Yeah, you can.
Sure you can.
But if you do it with the intent
to hurt people with a, with a stampede
and someone gets hurt, then you got a
problem.
And that concludes our constitutional lesson for today.
For today.
I'm glad I got the Hillary thing in
there, that's for sure.
That concludes our little pitch for today, children.
But I'm not too worried about anyone caring
because they don't even know what half a
dozen is.
So it's probably just going over everybody.
And they can't tell the months.
That's my favorite, new favorite.
January, December, June, what's next?
I have a February.
I remember when I was probably six.
And I was, my mom was kind of
mean in this.
She says, do you know the months?
And I was, I was always listening to
records at home.
And, you know, and I forget what the
name of the song is.
Maybe it's, maybe it's the Andrew Sisters.
But at a certain point he goes, January,
February, June and July.
Is that Sisters, maybe?
Sisters.
It was somebody like that.
So I say to my mom, January, February,
June and July.
And she went, you better learn your months.
You're about to go into, you're about to
be seven years old and you don't know
your months.
And I remember like, God, I was so
scared.
And I was studying the months and I
came back.
Mom, I know him, I know him, I
know him.
I really, I know him, I do.
I was just, it was just a song.
The song got me confused, mom.
But it's six.
And now we don't know.
I got a calendar on my phone.
Who cares?
I got a calendar.
The phone, again, brings us back to the
end of civilization, which began in 2007.
The end of civilization.
Well, here, what the parents do here, and
I think it's pretty good.
They will give their kid an Apple Watch
so that they can text and receive, because,
you know, these Apple Watches, now you can
text and receive a phone call.
And so, but then the parent controls the
app.
So there's no other apps on it.
So they can still text and have a
phone, but it's not really an easy way
to text.
You're not going to be in a chat
group with your friends like that.
And that seems to be a pretty good,
pretty decent halfway solution.
Halfway, also known as half-assed.
Well, I mean, I'm still for ham radios.
I think all kids should have a walkie
-talkie.
I love getting some of the Gen Zers
are getting these.
You said that earlier, you had a note
from someone.
Yeah, yeah.
They love it.
They love the hams.
Yeah, because we're talking about the flag burning.
Let's talk about D.C. crime, because that's
a big topic.
Yes.
Oh, yes.
I have some clips.
I got the D.C. Crime Union Station
clip.
Okay.
The Department of Transportation says it's taking over
management of Union Station, a major transportation hub
in Washington, D.C. NPR's Joel Rose reports.
Transportation Secretary Sean Duffy says his department is
taking management of Union Station back from Amtrak.
The station, which is within walking distance of
the U.S. Capitol, has been owned by
DOT since the 1980s.
Duffy says the department will now reclaim management
of the station, which he said will help
to, quote, make the city safe and beautiful
at a fraction of the cost.
National Guard troops have been seen patrolling the
station since the Trump administration sent the Guard
and other federal law enforcement officials into Washington,
though local police statistics show that violent crime
in the District of Columbia has declined, declined,
declined in recent years.
Declined.
So they're making the point, you know, they're
not talking, they're giving us, again, bad reporting.
They don't talk about the rigged numbers and
all the rest of this, and well documented
by now.
But so we go, but NPR now goes
into the juvenile.
There's a whole segment they do on the
juvenile thing that, you know, Jeanine Piero, Piero.
Judge Jeanine, man, bomb him, bomb him again,
eh?
Is the bomb him, bomb him girl, wants
to bomb the juveniles into oblivion.
And so this becomes a big topic of
conversation here on NPR about, oh, well, you
know, the whole idea is that we shouldn't,
we kind of backed off on juveniles because
it's turned out that our research indicates that
if you're, if you're harsh on them, then
they become lifetime criminals as opposed to letting
them get away with everything.
So they won't become like, bring back spanking,
bring back spanking, people.
There we go.
It's one unlike President Trump, who was railed
against violent crime in the city writ large,
right there.
Railed.
What does even railed mean?
Let me ask.
Give me a definition of railed.
Railed can mean a couple things depending on
context.
If you mean physically, it's when something moves
along or is secured by rails, like a
train on tracks or a curtain on a
rod.
Now, if you're thinking slang, railed often means
getting hit hard or overwhelmed, like in a
game or argument.
Oh, please.
Stupid.
It's just, it's, it's.
So it's a colloquialism that isn't even valid.
Exactly.
Railed.
He railed against it, man.
I mean, railing, when someone rails against it,
I'm getting really mad.
Unlike President Trump, who was railed against violent
crime in the city writ large, PIR was
zeroed in specifically on local laws meant to
rehabilitate people accused or convicted of crimes at
a young age.
She's penned opinion pieces and letters to lawmakers
criticizing laws allowing for things like juvenile sentence
reduction, record sealing, and early release.
I want to send a message that we
are going to catch you, that we are
going to change the laws, that if you're
14, 15, 16, 17, we're going to bring
you into the justice system.
PIR has connected the district's reforms to the
city's recent uptick in youth violence, which included
a sharp rise in shootings in 2023 that
has since declined, since declined, since declined.
Oh, hold on.
I got to stop that for a second.
First of all, Judge Jeanine will be the
one to use the super predator term.
You watch.
She's, she's dumb enough, she's smart, but she's
also dumb enough to throw something or a
new version of super predator.
I would take a bet on that, that
she won't.
You don't think she will?
No, I don't think so.
She's so conscientious about being a right winger
that to use that term, which is really
popularized by Hillary, I think would be beneath
her.
And there was something else I wanted to
say.
Oh, I forgot it already.
Let me see.
Which included a sharp rise in shootings in
2023.
So I looked at the crime statistics of
DC and they were talking about how it
was down 30 percent and I'm like, how
did they arrive at this number?
It's very simple.
They looked at 2024, all crime or whatever
that, what was the statistic?
Was it, it was crime.
And then they looked at what they have
to date.
Well, there's a third of the year left.
So that's how they arrive at it's down
30 percent.
Well, yeah, the year's not over yet.
They didn't do it month over month or
period over period.
They did it literally full year versus three
quarters of a year.
This bull crap.
Included a sharp rise in shootings in 2023
that has since declined, since declined, since declined.
But complaints about juvenile justice reform from prosecutors
are nothing new in both the Capitol and
in other parts of the country.
DC Mayor Muriel Bowser says she is also
concerned about sending the wrong message to adolescents
accused of crimes.
I am an accountability mayor.
If you commit a crime in the district
with a gun, there has to be accountability.
And that's if you are an adult or
if you are a juvenile.
I don't think we always have that accountability.
But criminal justice reform advocates don't want to
see D.C. leaders make what they say
will be counterproductive changes simply to appease Trump
and Pirro in order to war off additional
interference.
Vanessa Batters Thompson is the head of the
D.C. Appleseed Center for Law and Justice.
She argues that cities and states have pursued
policy changes allowing for more lenient sentences for
young people because of the overwhelming evidence that
punishing them pushes teens to commit more crimes
in the future.
Bring back spanking.
That'll start.
You've muted yourself.
You're self-muted.
It is a crime in 40 of the
50 states to self-mute yourself on a
podcast.
You are still muted.
Click the button.
I wonder if maybe he's having an argument,
doesn't want us to hear it.
Maybe he's sorry.
I'll tell you how this happens.
Yeah, it's magic.
But the point.
Yeah, yeah.
You had something to say that I thought
was important and I wanted to dispute it.
Or bring back spanking.
No, not about bringing back spanking.
The logic, the logic that was brought up
in that clip where they say that deterring
in other words, by punishing crime, it doesn't
act as a deterrence, which makes sense that
it might.
It acts as an encouragement.
How did it?
What is the logic here?
Their logic is the following.
To deter crime by punishing the juveniles, it
will encourage more crime.
Yeah.
I want to know the logic.
Do you have it?
No.
No, of course not.
All right.
They claim that's true.
OK, well, let's go on to the WTF,
which is the worst clip, which is this
one.
Pushes teens to commit more crimes in the
future.
It feels like we are taking a step
back from an evidence based approach to criminal
justice, to one that is really focused on
the short term appearance of less crime at
the risk of a population that is much
less stable over the long term.
Pero has also criticized a D.C. law
allowing people convicted of crimes under the age
of 25 to seek sentence reductions after they've
served at least 15 years.
More than a dozen states have passed similar
reforms, giving judges a chance to review a
sentence after a significant amount of time has
been served.
Troy Berner was one of the first beneficiaries
of D.C.'s sentence reduction law after spending
24 years in prison for a crime he
didn't commit.
Wait, the guy didn't commit the crime?
Yeah.
That's and he is a beneficiary of a
shortened sentence.
How come he wasn't commuted if he didn't
commit?
What is he doing in jail in the
first place if he didn't commit the crime?
Well, they throw that in there to show
that the justice system does not work because
people who are innocent get thrown in jail.
That's that that's part of the whole ethos
of the left, you see, is they don't
always get it right.
So I could be your kid.
So you don't, by the way, little remind
me, I've got to tell a Fredericksburg story
right after this last clip.
You want to set it up?
I'm not going to set up the Fredericksburg
story, but I remember to say that to
you.
Let's go to.
So anyway, so the point is that this
is a propagandistic outfit, this NPR and people
giving them money.
It's really a shame.
Here we go.
Shame.
Stop giving.
So here we go.
This is the last.
He now studies criminal justice reform issues and
observes that these reductions are only meant to
give people second chances after they clear a
rigorous review process.
He says they have no bearing at all
on youth crime rates.
We're doing some amazing things out here.
And I think, you know, when it's all
said and done, you know, people lives are
being involved in this misleading narratives.
Similarly, Nye Winslow, policy counsel of the D
.C. Justice Lab, points to Pirro's focus on
the city's juvenile record sealing laws and misguided
one.
I know she and the administration want to
talk about public safety, but if you are
allowing people the opportunity to move forward and
gain a legal income, get legal housing, get
legal education opportunities, that will decrease the chance
that they are going to resort to criminal
activity.
Pirro's office declined to speak with NPR for
this story, stating her public comments spoke for
themselves.
For NPR News, I'm Alex Tromo in Washington,
D.C. Hold on a second.
These juveniles do have a home.
It's not as though they're homeless roaming around
homeless kids.
Unhoused.
Unhoused.
Oh, yeah, unhoused.
And so this logic, again, there's the logic
is elusive.
Mainstream media is not good for anybody's mental
health.
But even in Fredericksburg, we have gotten to
a place where there's something that happened in
people's minds.
I'm not sure exactly what it is.
So we live on a it should be
a gated community, but it's not because, you
know, there's a whole who owns the roads
and the city didn't want it when this
it's a what do you call it?
Subdivision.
And there's 12 in a subdivision.
You have an awful lot of property for
someone in the subdivision.
It's Texas, man.
So in Texas here, we got lots of
land.
We have the many.
We got the Mac mansions and we got
them all over the place because that's what
we do.
That's what we do.
My mansions with lots of limestone and exposed
beams, which we do not have 12 homes.
And so we're on one end is a
cul-de-sac.
And there's a cul-de-sac on the
other end.
And then there's a road and a couple
of wait, wait, stop.
There's a cul-de-sac on one end
and the other ends.
How do you get into this area in
the first place?
In the middle, there's a road that comes
in the middle and and and in the
middle, there's actually where the mailboxes are.
OK, you got the picture?
You got the picture?
Not really, but yes.
We're all the way at one end, quiet,
little little Adam and Tina and Phoebe just
living here in our modest home.
The Mac mansions are a little bit further
up.
But about nine months ago, a family moved
in and the guy's a contractor.
And so he's already irritating everybody because he
had, you know, like tractors and big machinery
in his front yard and while he was
building his house.
But then they kind of stayed.
And so there's all kinds of consternation at
the other end, including.
Yeah, I love this sort of neighborhood consternation
over the guy has a heavy equipment in
his front yard.
Well, I mean, man, can you move your
tractor?
And, you know, 4th of July, they were
shooting fireworks off and it was, you know,
it was and all the debris was going
in other people's yards and their pool.
And so there's a text group of half
of the inhabitants.
And I've been roped into this because I
find it highly entertaining because I'm on the
other end.
We're in the quiet, peaceful part.
And so the other of those last weekend,
it was Saturday night and I'm walking Phoebe
and they have two young boys, a baby.
And I guess the boys had some some
friends over and I don't know where the
parents were, but they had gotten one of
his his utility vehicles, which is, you know,
kind of like a golf cart that can
pull stuff that has a has a real
engine in it.
And they're racing up and down the road.
I mean, racing is is there's a big
word, you know, they've got one headlamp and
they're all hooting and hollering.
And it's like nine o'clock or whatever.
Yeah, the kids, right.
And then they had a sparty.
Yeah, they had electric mini bikes and they're
zipping around.
And Phoebe's like, they're afraid of me because,
you know, the Phoebe is like she's just
going nuts when they come by.
And, you know, they're going up and down.
And I'm like, yeah, I remember when I
was a kid, you know, I had all
kinds of motorized vehicles and, you know, it's
nine o'clock, whatever.
So it wasn't loud or anything, but they
were just going up and down.
So I thought nothing of it.
Like, I'm not going to I'm not going
to be that old coot who says I
can't stop that.
However, the shaker, you got to shake my
fist.
Yes.
However, it turns out they were doing this
until one in the morning up at the
other end.
And so the text group fires up like,
can you believe it?
They were doing that until one in the
morning.
I'm like, what did you do?
Well, you know, I couldn't get to sleep.
I texted.
What is wrong with you people?
I said, I said, OK, next, because, you
know, we do have a 10 o'clock
ordinance, I guess.
And just after 10 o'clock, just stop
making noise.
It's fine.
Unless you talk to everybody.
I'm going to have a party.
Come on over.
And I said, what is wrong with you?
Next time they do that, text me and
I'll call my friend Mike, the lieutenant, the
sheriff's office.
I have to send someone over and scare
the living daylights out of them.
But these people don't do that anymore.
They sit there and grouse on text.
You know, you're grown men.
You're going to let these kids terrorize you
until one in the morning and just go
out there and say, hey, cut it out.
This is Texas.
There's something going on.
The people have lost the plot.
I mean, what are you afraid of?
Are you afraid that you're going to get
someone's parents angry because you told their kids
to knock it off?
It's disappointing, to say the least.
By the way, this is an ongoing saga.
There will be more updates.
There's a lot more going on with these
people.
We have, you know, in Holland, in Dutch,
in the old country, we have a term
for a family like this.
We call them Tokkies.
And they are Tokkies, T-O-K-K
-I-E-S, Tokkies, Tokkies, Tokkies.
And every neighborhood eventually gets some Tokkies.
And we got them.
And luckily, they're at the other end of
the road, far away from me to be
disturbed by.
Yeah, it sounds like a winner.
I had some Tokkies living next to me
when I was down on.
It's Tokkies.
Get together Tokkies.
That were, they were heroin dealers.
Excellent.
And they weren't there that long.
They were there for maybe six months, but
it was pretty apparent what was going on.
And it was funny because they also owned
a restaurant in Berkley, which the name remained
nameless.
But I think they financed the restaurant with
their heroin dealings.
So one day, so there's one day I
got a knock on my door because somebody
mixed up the houses and thought it was,
I was the hero.
Hey man, hey man, are you holding, are
you holding?
But no, it was kind of a surprise.
It was two, I don't know if they
were world class, but they sure looked like
it to me.
Supermodels.
Oh yeah.
Yeah.
They use that to, instead of eating, they
do heroin.
And it was like, holy shit.
These women are beautiful.
And there is, you know, they had the
guy's name is, is he living here?
No, he's next door.
And so I, well, I'm giving him directions.
Oh, thanks.
And they go over there and then you,
the door opens, you hear it slam.
Then it opens again.
As soon as they get back in their
car within 10 minutes and off they go
to two of them.
Yeah.
And I'm thinking, holy mackerel, what a business.
Wow.
This is a story I have not heard
from you.
This is a new one.
I've never told him.
Almost 18 years.
And you never cease to amaze me with
your life experience.
About the hotties, the heroin addict hotties.
The heroin hotties.
There you go.
Heroin hotties.
That's the name for a show title.
Yeah, I think so too.
I'm writing it down just in case.
Heroin hotties.
Wow, man.
What a world, huh?
We get to live in it.
That's great.
I love that we get to live in
this world.
So I have these.
How much time do we have left in
this segment?
In this segment, I give you 15.
Well, let's go with the owner.
I found a TikToker guy, but it's just
really a news reporter.
He's on the UK.
And it's UK reports of the crap that's
going on in the UK.
So bad.
That they're trying to pull over on the
public.
And the public just buys it.
This is UK is a mess.
Yeah, it is.
Here's the these are they call owns a
risk.
But this owns risk UK cash limit.
Have you heard about the cash limit?
Yes, they're doing it all over the EU.
So it doesn't surprise me.
It's in the UK.
I'm just going to guess.
No more than £100 cash.
Well, it's different.
Well, it's a little more elaborate than that.
Okay, here we go.
September 18th, 2025.
Withdrawing more than £200 in cash within seven
days will activate an alert on your account.
Wow.
Yes, the moment you cross that limit, your
banking activity goes straight to the Financial Intelligence
Unit, supported by HMRC, the Treasury and the
Financial Conduct Authority.
And it doesn't stop there.
A new automated monitoring system will scan every
withdrawal, deposit and transfer.
Take out £300 today and another £100 later
in the week.
Instantly reviewed.
Your account could be checked, restricted or even
temporarily paused.
Do this often and you could end up
on a high risk list facing block transactions,
limited card use and possible reports to other
agencies.
The rule is aimed at reducing activity in
certain sectors like property, secondhand cars and cash
based deals.
But many believe it could affect ordinary people
too, making every step of your financial life
feel closely monitored.
Wow.
You know what these people need?
I mean, I would have said Bitcoin, but
we might as well just hit them with
some stablecoin.
Quick.
They need something.
That is, that is draconian.
It's ridiculous.
And then they talk about the reason for
this.
So you can't buy a secondhand car cash.
No.
I can't go by.
You got a car for sales like 500
bucks.
Here's 500 bucks.
Give me that.
What kind of car are you buying for
500 bucks?
Well, I'm just saying just to make I'm
rounding numbers.
Uh, okay.
10 grand.
Here's $10,000 in cash.
Can I have your car?
No way.
You might be a drug.
You might be holding heroin for the hotties.
You can't, you can't have that.
I mean, the whole thing is ridiculous.
So here's the second clip that's got another
crazy thing going on in the UK.
As in January, 2026, a new contribution will
be added directly to your pay slip.
Yes, you read that correctly.
On January 2nd, 2026, a debt recovery contribution
will automatically be deducted from the paychecks of
most UK workers.
This new measure is designed to help manage
the UK's rising national debt, which has grown
significantly in recent years.
But here's where it gets interesting.
90 pounds will be taken before your salary
even reaches your bank account.
Adding up to over £1,000 per year.
With many families already facing higher living costs
and inflation, this new deduction is likely to
have a big impact.
HMRC will handle the collection and employers will
be legally required to ensure it's taken.
Exemptions apply only to pensioners, large families and
those on specific benefits.
For everyone else, it's automatic and unavoidable.
While supporters say this is a necessary step
to manage public finances, critics feel it places
extra pressure on regular workers.
No kidding.
So that's to reduce the deficit?
Yeah, so they screw up and they run
up a big deficit.
And they say, well, you know, what are
we going to do about this big deficit?
Well, what we're going to do is we're
going to ding everybody with the, because everything's
now, you know, the finances is going to
be all digital because you can't even have
$200 in cash, you know, before being considered
a criminal.
So you have, so that you can't do
anything about it.
And the money just gets sucked out of
your account, whether you like it or not.
Bitcoin people, they get to the Bitcoin.
Bitcoin's not going to help.
I think stablecoin is the answer, but it's
not, that's like, that'll be illegal.
They'll just make that illegal.
Oh, it already is.
You know, that, you saw that commercial that
Coinbase did about everything's fine in the UK.
It's like a three minute commercial.
It's like a, it's like a cabaret.
They're on the street singing and dancing and
everything's a mess.
And the garbage is piling up and rats
are walking around and the ceiling's caving in
and people are like, everything's fine.
Everything's lovely.
And then it's because Coinbase wasn't allowed to
either operate or certainly not to advertise their
services.
I think it's to operate.
I know, I never saw that ad.
Yeah, it's around.
Well, of course we still have the Raise
the Colors protest ongoing in the UK and
it's spreading.
And I thought it was rather interesting because
we were talking a couple of shows ago.
You said, well, who's organizing this?
Who is organizing all of these, this immigration,
all this illegal stuff and people getting, you
know, hotel rooms and et cetera, et cetera.
Well, it turns out that the only people
organizing it are the citizenry themselves who just
let it happen because they were told by
their media and their politicians, oh, poor people,
poor people, without any thought for the consequences.
And now the Australians are acting up.
An online movement.
When did it become racist to be a
patriot?
Planning to take to the streets.
The Australian people have had enough.
With the backing of real politicians.
How dare you bring these people to our
country and then have them be looked after
by the public purse.
This nation is sick and tired of migration.
This is the digital groundswell behind March for
Australia.
A planned series of demonstrations next Sunday in
every state capital.
Anti-mass migration rallies.
Sam won't give her real name and would
only answer our questions in a pre-recorded
video message posted to her page, but claims
to be an organiser.
Myself, as well as every other state organiser,
is intending for this event to be peaceful,
non-violent, non-aggressive and just a bunch
of your average Australians standing up against mass
immigration.
There is no clear single leader.
Many supporters, though, were aligned with anti-lockdown,
anti-vaccine movements.
Everyone I know is going.
There are videos that don't even feature real
people.
AI generated clips used to sell the message.
Security experts say the social media algorithm driven
momentum is fuelled by scenes globally.
Immigration raids ordered by the US president in
America protests against migrants in the UK.
Yeah, people are sick of it everywhere.
That's good.
We'll see how that goes.
I love the real politicians.
Like, oh, my God, real politicians are with
these people.
We can't have that.
We should get these real politicians out.
There's no good.
All right.
TikTok clip.
Only have one.
We actually have two.
I thought this.
I want to play this clip.
This is a TikTok clip.
And somebody brought in this is people bitching
about Joe Rogan.
And I don't like to necessarily play that
sort of clip.
But they're bitching about Joe Rogan because he
had some a couple of anti-vaxxers on.
When was this?
All the time.
All the time.
He has anti-vaxxers on all the time.
He has a lot of anti-vaxxers on.
Yes.
But these women, these are two Brits.
I think there are some podcasts.
I can't figure out who they are.
But they post everywhere.
And so they're going on.
There's an unbelievable illogic to what they have
to say.
But they came up with a new a
new concept, which I thought was interesting.
And it is a term called privilege of
platform.
And Joe Rogan has this privilege of privilege
of platform, which means big platform.
Yeah.
And of course, this goes along with the
you shouldn't platform these people.
Or I this is my favorite.
Candace Owens does this.
I won't use my platform to talk about
these people.
We have a platform.
It's tiny.
But, you know, it's like a diving board,
basically.
But we've got a platform.
Yeah, but our people are the best.
That's true.
I do not think some episodes of the
Joe Rogan experience are OK.
I have issues with a lot of the
people that Joe Rogan has interviewed.
Most specifically, I do not like the fact
that he reaches into alt right groups and
platforms people with very racist, very hate filled
ideas.
I hate that about his podcast.
And I really do not like the idea
that is so widely supported sometimes.
However, if we are sticking to the issue
of these two particular podcast episodes that people
are so upset about recently, my main question
is what opinions deserve a platform on Joe
Rogan experience?
And the main hurdle for me, whenever someone
shares an opinion on a podcast is, is
this person qualified to share the opinion that
they have?
Is this person considered an expert in their
field?
And when we bring up these two episodes
that have caused this furore, they are actually
concerning to people who I would deem experts
because they are a cardiologist and a vaccine
scientist.
So it's an interesting conversation because although we
have two experts who are very educated and
are very informed in their fields, they are
two experts who disagree with about 99 percent
of their peers who are also experts.
So we kind of have a situation where
if we had all these experts on this
particular topic in a room, 997 are saying
one thing and two or three experts are
saying another.
And how the hell do we deal with
that?
Yeah.
And then a lot of people might turn
around to that and say, OK, well, then
clearly it's a freedom of speech thing, because
clearly we need to hear from everyone, from
all of the experts in the room.
And I agree with that to some degree.
But then perhaps it's not as much about
freedom of speech as it is about privilege
of platform.
Right.
Like this is a huge platform.
Brother.
Well, that's kind of the Douglas Murray argument
about Dave Smith.
Douglas Murray was when he went on to
debate.
Dave Smith is on Joe Rogan again, and
he's still talking about that debate.
Like, oh, move on, move on, dude.
But he's right about one thing.
Douglas Murray, but he in essence said you
shouldn't platform people who aren't experts on the
topic, which is a little bit like what,
although it's in reverse here, because I guess
these people did were experts in the field.
But you shouldn't platform anyone who I disagree
with.
That's what they're saying.
That's basically what the two women are saying.
OK, you should have experts, but they have
to be experts that we agree with.
They have to be experts that are in
the majority.
In other words, science, you know, science is
not a vote.
You know, you don't you know, it's not
like, oh, majority rules.
So that means that science, you know, otherwise
we'd still be using leeches, I think, to
cure disease.
Eight out of 10 doctors say smoking camels
is good for you.
It'll help you cough.
I mean, don't forget that.
Yes.
So, yes.
So these this is all nonsense.
Joe Rogan is Joe Rogan.
He gets just put on whoever he feels
like.
What difference does it make?
Well, with the understanding that almost nobody really
watches mainstream news anymore in the United States,
there's nobody under 30, maybe even older, who's
watching network news.
But, oh, I can't wait to turn on
the six o'clock news.
No, there's no the numbers show that no
one is really watching cable news.
Certainly not on that age bracket.
They're all watching Joe Rogan.
And I think our lucky stars and the
Holy Spirit that the Gen Z's are coming
to us.
They're like, OK, let me just hear what's
going on in the other world.
Well, I'm here ranching, ranching and making babies.
Yeah, spanking my kids when they get out
of line.
Yeah, they need to know.
They need to know what's happening.
And they come to us to our platform.
They come to our platform.
I love it.
Come to our platform.
You're welcome here at this platform.
And with that platform, I want to thank
you for your courage in the morning to
you, the man who put the C's in
the UK cash crunch.
Say hello to my friend on the other
end.
The one, the only Mr. John C.
DeMora.
In the morning to the trolls in the
troll room.
Let me count you here.
Hold on a second.
We're still low.
Sixteen fifty seven should be about eighteen hundred
for a Thursday.
Well, we're short one fifty.
We are.
Yeah.
Is it Labor Day weekend?
Is that coming up?
Yeah, it is.
As a matter of fact, it should be
a should be it should be a banging
show on Sunday.
There'll be nobody listening, by the way.
At least we're working.
We're not we're not doing what everyone else
has been doing, which is taking a week
off.
Yeah.
You know, I got a I got a
message from somebody.
It's like, well, you are casting stones at
others.
What are you know, some people have to
work.
What are you doing?
What are you running for?
I'm like, uh, what?
When I was talking about you should run
for school board or local city council or
get involved, get involved.
It's like some people have to work for
a living.
Like, you know, just because it sounds really
easy, we do.
This is a full time job.
And by the way, we have no salary,
no health care, no pension, no benefits, no
PTO, no vacation.
I frequently am doing my my my part
of the show from vacation.
There's no financial planning because it's a roller
coaster of donations.
What are you talking about?
You know, I don't know why I came
up with this is a it's a constant
struggle.
That's it.
It's a struggle.
That's the point.
By the way, on the the quad screen,
the here's the new messaging from the Minneapolis
shooter.
The shooter was obsessed with other shooters.
And yes, this is true and wanted to
kill children.
So there's at this moment, we still have
one of his rifles.
He had a bunch of shooters names on
him.
Yeah, I know.
I know.
But what they don't have is the obvious
transgendering of children, making them.
We have a pattern.
We have a proven pattern of this.
There's that's that's what you're looking for.
We have a pattern, but that is not
what your mainstream media is going to tell
you.
So come up on our knees here.
The boomers will tell you what's really happening.
So the sixteen hundred and fifty seven trolls
are listening.
They're listening live troll room dot IO.
And of course, on the modern podcast, that's
by the way, let's just go to no
agenda stream dot com.
It's the same thing.
Yeah, no agenda dot stream or no agenda
stream dot com.
It's just multiple domain names.
I like troll room dot IO.
What's your problem?
I don't like troll room dot IO.
I love we've been using this for five
years.
Now you tell me you don't like it.
I've only been showing you how rare it
is for me to complain.
OK, I never liked it.
I like like no agenda stream dot com.
It's got a branding.
But do you like us calling the troll
room, the chat room, the troll room?
You like that, though, don't you?
I don't.
It doesn't bother me one way or the
other.
Oh, OK.
But I did want to say there's a
brand new podcasting two point app, two point
zero app out, which is Pod Home available.
Pod Home.
Yes, from Barry.
Barry is Dutch and Barry built Pod Home.
He has a hosting company, which he runs
by himself.
But he also has a brand new app.
It's good.
He has something called Podcast Pulse.
And this pertains to the bat signal that
we have in the two point apps where,
first of all, you can listen to a
live stream, a live show.
And we have the bat signal which alerts
you when we go live.
And you just in your podcast app, you
just click on it.
Boom, you're listening to the live stream.
And is it beep?
Depends on what you have said as a
I mean, you don't know how a phone
works.
But yeah, these modern phones, they can give
you an alert.
You might have seen it.
A little little thing comes from the top
and you get a little peep.
And whatever you set it to.
Yes.
Is it different than a message?
You can have it function differently.
You can have it.
Yeah.
Hey, Stooge, the podcast is beginning.
Get on the phone.
You can do something like that.
Yeah.
In fact, I'm going to ISO that people
could use that.
So you could actually set that as your
alarm tone when we when we go live.
That's possible.
And of course, when we publish within 90
seconds, you know that the podcast has been
updated.
These legacy apps, you know, sometimes wait 15
minutes or hours at times when things go
wrong.
This is because of the pod ping infrastructure
of 2.0. And what Barry did is
he has this kind of new feature that
he put in his app.
I think he calls it podcast pulse.
And so you you go into the podcast
pulse section of the app and it just
shows you, boom, every app that updates.
And sometimes there's three per second.
It's really cool to discover podcasts, boom, boom,
boom.
Just go flying by and there's a trail
and it's fun.
It's a it's a fun way to discover
new podcasts.
But you just want to subscribe to the
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Our 1800th episode is coming up.
So what is that?
About 100 episodes a year, I guess.
Yeah, about that.
Two a week.
Well, 52 weeks out of the year would
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Yeah, well, we didn't start off with two
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So we went to two episodes later.
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Boots on the ground are always welcome.
Of course, we have prompt jockeys who are
very good at prompting art.
Of course, your results may vary depending on
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You should have real artists.
They're all dead.
The Dutch masters are in fact now dead
Dutch masters.
They've all left us because they couldn't compete.
And it's sad because they were actually quite
good.
But I have to say, when you look
at Darren O'Neill's artwork for episode 1793,
which we titled Retribution, it was good.
Now, it was still kind of the luminance
was down because the model he's using is
edging towards model collapse.
So there's no bright colors.
But because of that, the intent of making
it look like a movie poster, which was
the attack of the radioactive shrimp, it really
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It was well done.
We liked it.
You got the planes flying overhead.
You got the giant radioactive shrimp.
People running away scared.
Some of them apparently wearing Nazi uniforms with
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I'm not sure what that was about.
Some of the planes look a little strange.
But hey, you know, it's AI.
We liked it.
It was a good piece.
We looked at a couple others going to
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Let me see what else we had in
there.
We had...
Man, Cervant.
Cervant, you got to use another model.
Your model has collapsed.
It's literally like you put on sunglasses looking...
And you see that one with the pickup
truck?
What's the name of it?
Oh, that pickup truck is so dull.
Yeah, it's dim.
It's just dim.
Yeah, I mean, it's dim.
I liked Geoffrey Rhea's radioactive shrimp.
I thought it was kind of cute.
He had a shrimp with all kinds of
radioactive signs around it.
Yeah, that was a good piece.
It was definitely...
That could have won.
Could have won.
I don't think there was...
There wasn't that much.
Uganda, another Geoffrey Rhea, Ray Rhea.
Dogs.
No, I think you got it all.
That was it.
It was underwhelming.
Underwhelming.
The jump, the shark.
We had a dude named Ben with a
microphone with a dead cat on it.
And then there's always...
Oh, by the way, I want to make
that correction.
It's not a Rode mic.
It is a DJI mic.
Somebody sent me a...
One of the producers corrected that.
Well, there's two versions.
There is definitely a Rode mic used a
lot.
Yeah, well, this DJI mic is the one
I was talking about.
And it comes...
You see it so much because it comes
with a video recorder as a kit.
And so it's like a vlogger, vlogger kit.
And so you had this stupid little mic,
which is...
A vlogger kit.
A vlogger kit with a wireless little square
mic, which looks idiotic.
You know, the vlogger kit should come with
that Parallels app so that you can look
really good.
I got my kit and I've got 50
,000 people watching me live.
I'm alive, my Insta live, baby.
I also want to make another mea culpa.
Yes, Adlai Stevenson was involved in some way
with the Khrushchev showdown with the missile crisis
because he was the UN ambassador at the
time.
I was corrected by three different producers on
that.
Oh, blimey.
So I have to mention that.
And then I also have to mention that
somebody did point out that there's about six
states that allow open containers in the car.
And Texas, until 1980, allowed you to have
beer in the car open.
And they used to have...
Because I remember this because you used to
be able to drive through a liquor store,
they had drive-through outlets and they'd give
you a beer and you could go in
your car.
But the discussion was...
And you would do this to me.
You said, can't you have open container in
the car in Texas?
And I said, no.
So I was right.
And you can't now say, used to be
that way.
Because you're kind of trying to do that.
No, but I claim that I knew about
this in the past and you deny that
it ever existed.
Ah, there it is.
As long as I'm wrong.
Okay.
You are wrong.
You are dead wrong.
I am right on all counts.
Don't make me call my lieutenant at the
sheriff's office.
Come over there.
Well, he's not going to drive over here
to run out of gas.
His electric car will be dead before he
gets out of Texas.
No, he won't be able to afford gas
in your state.
That's the problem.
What are you at?
10 bucks a gallon now?
Five.
Really?
Yeah.
Wow.
That's way down.
It's not way down.
It's been five forever.
It's too high.
It should be three.
Well, no, I know it's too high, but
you know, it's your taxes, man.
Enjoy it.
No, it's not the taxes.
It's a combination of ridiculous...
My favorite thing, which is they...
Don't get me started.
First, they always have a tax on the
gasoline to pay for highways, and they put
a special bill to put more tax on
the gas to pay for highways when you
already have it.
And then the other thing is the blend
of gasolines that they use is very specific
to California.
And so this special blend that only about
five refineries can even make includes the Richmond
refinery and over here in Richmond, obviously, there's
Chevron refinery, which is going to shut down
because California can't keep a refinery in the
state without driving them out of business.
And so who knows what the price of
the gasoline is going to be after Chevron
shuts down their Richmond refinery.
The whole thing's a disaster.
Yeah.
California.
Exactly.
Uber, Ulis.
No, it's not California.
It's Newsome.
Okay.
Who was he voted in by?
Californians who love him.
They love their policies.
I don't even believe that to be true.
Well, there's something wrong with it.
I think the elections have been rigged for
decades.
Yeah, probably.
California.
There you go.
You can say it all you want.
It's California.
Anyway, so now we get to the part
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This goes back a number of years.
I've talked about this before.
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Commodore SX-64 here.
I tried doing it in Texas.
I can't talk through my teeth.
This donation should make me a Secretary General
and a knight at the same time.
I assume I could be a Sir Commodore
S-64 Secretary General of Lake Granger.
Lake Granger?
Is it Granger?
Lake Granger area in Milam County.
Where's that?
Milam County is not too far from here.
If you could find it in your heart
to send good paying jobs karma for me.
Good paying jobs karma.
And the young family of fishermen that have
made, oh, he must be on the coast.
They made the move north to dry land.
Oh, he's okay.
No, he's not on the coast.
He's in dry land now.
That'd be great.
And Lou Patkins' help has been involved as
well.
Wow.
Nice.
Nice.
Lou Patkins.
She's also helping Brennan, who got laid off
from Chevron, who's leaving the state.
So now the kids are moving back in
with you?
No, they got a place.
I have deep manufacturing background and the turnaround
to it.
They also gave him six months severance.
Turnaround to a productive society is going to
take a long time after all, at least
the last three generations have been conditioned by
the...
Excuse me, education system that makes anything physical
a bad thing.
No shop class.
That will have to be purged out of
the communal mind.
The young people that we see today lack
the basics of anything unless their daddy taught
them.
No shop class, no trade school, just PhDs
in basket weaving.
Media deconstruction excluded.
Of course.
Keep up the good work.
And to John, if you like the brawling,
try Borset San Marzano.
No tomatoes involved.
Thank you.
That's another Amaro, obviously.
I'll check it out.
Thank you, SX64.
Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.
Let's vote for jobs.
Yeah!
On to a new name.
Augusto Andreoli from Berlin, Deutschland.
Hello, Deutschland!
Here's the Hoff!
Brazilian-Italian living in Berlin.
Britalian, I just made a new name.
For 11 years here in Germany.
Hit in the mouth by SirTal from Berlin
in January of 2024.
I've replaced my Netflix subscription by a no
agenda sustaining donation since April of 2024.
Yes, thank you very much.
Thank you for your courage and for the
weekly dose of sanity check deconstruction and laughs
you always provide.
It is truly essential public service that should
reach more people.
I'd like to be called Secretary General of
Sao Paulo.
I'd like Trump's job karma.
I might have a chance to work for
a year in the USA.
Plus relationship karma.
My girlfriend and I broke up.
I turned 50 on August 29th, 1975.
Gen Xer.
Four more years, says Augusto Andreoli.
Jobs, jobs, jobs.
You've got karma.
Let me just check, make sure he's on
the birthday list here.
Augusto.
Is Augusto on?
While you're doing that, I'm going to read
Matthew Martel in Brumel, Pennsylvania.
I'm sure I'm not pronouncing that right.
$350.58, 333 plus fees.
Here's my September donation with a little extra
to cover Adam's part of the dinner.
Visit martelhardware.com.
Don't forget to use the coupon code BRUNETTI33
for an additional 10% off your order.
JCD Hot Pockets is requested.
Oh, somehow I didn't see that one.
JCD Hot Pockets.
Hold on a second.
Where's my Hot Pockets?
There we go.
Hot Pockets.
There we go.
I could just do that.
Hot Pockets.
Brunetti.
You saw the email exchange.
Oh, yeah.
You and him, you two should get a
room.
Yeah, he's mean.
He says horrible things.
He's a producer.
He's just a typical suit.
He feels no obligation to follow a convention.
I told him, what did I tell him?
I had a, I thought it was a
pretty good line.
What was it?
You had a good line?
Yeah, I think so.
I told him, I said, maybe you should
just go make another movie.
Fifty Shades of Yawn.
More beige, more beige bondage.
I thought that was a good line too.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Yeah, he did.
And then he had some beige comment, which
I didn't think it was.
You, I think you could have stopped.
I shot past.
Okay, I went too far.
You overshot the joke.
Overshot the joke.
Yeah, you gotta be careful.
Uh, Sir Kretchman is in Richmond, Indiana.
And let me see.
Here, let me get that one.
Oh, thank you.
And I say that because of the next
one.
Sir Kretchman's in Richmond, Indiana.
And he writes in, he came in with,
uh, oh, I got tall.
But he came in with a 333.33.
He says, in the morning, gents, I hope
this letter finds you well.
Ha ha.
May this donation serve as the beginning of
my quest to become a Baron as well
as the excuse to use my new night
ring with sealing wax.
I'm delighted to inform you that I finally
took Adam's advice and bought my first quarter
cow last year.
Very good.
I never knew how delicious a cut of
beef could taste until I had one from
a local farmer.
Hello.
Very good.
Very good.
Next time, get a half.
Well, you don't even have to do that,
by the way.
That depends on whether you want the flanks
or not.
But also just get ground beef from them.
I mean, ground beef is so universally usable
for meatballs, for burgers, for meatloaf.
And it's a lot cheaper than anything you
can buy anywhere else.
With all this talk about weight loss drugs,
he continues in the media today.
I was amazed to find that beef is
clearly the best option on the market.
After primarily eating beef for three months, I
was astonished.
You don't have to plow.
You must not have a freezer.
I was astonished at my weight loss and
feeling of fullness.
It was with this newfound knowledge that I
created Meat Jaro.
Instead of injecting Munjaro under your skin, how
about injecting Meat Jaro directly into your mouth?
A delicious local farm-raised cut of beef.
The best part is you don't need health
insurance to buy it in.
It's 100% safe and effective.
Meat Jaro, trademarks, common side effects.
Sudden death for patients with alpha-gal syndrome.
Extreme depression and anxiety when taken by vegans
or those suffering from anthropomorphism.
Increased masculinity, wealth and social status as a
side effect.
And taint cancer.
Can I please get a massive dumps?
Shut up, it's science and goat karma.
Thank you for your courage, sore crutchman of
the white water valley.
They did dumps.
They call them dumps.
Big massive dumps.
Shut up already.
Science.
You've got karma.
Thank you, you made me laugh.
He has a good letter.
He also has a very nice signature.
Well, unfortunately, as we say in the old
country, because you thought that the next one
would be really long, but you miss Joe
Spry from Savannah, Georgia, who says, no jingles,
no note.
Joe Spry in Savannah, Georgia, which leaves you
with the next note.
I can't read it because it's off the
spreadsheet.
Aaron Duvall from Walnut, Kansas.
Our first associate executive producer.
By the way, Joe was 333, thank you.
Uh, Aaron is 24568.
This is my first monetary donation, so please
deduce it.
You've been deduced.
I am sending this note to say just
how grateful my family and I are for
this community.
It is said quite often on this show
that connection is protection.
Few people understand just how true that really
is.
For those who didn't know, my family's home
suffered a fire in the upstairs on St.
Patrick's Day.
We got extremely lucky there was no structural
damage, but we did lose the upstairs to
smoke, the downstairs to water, and most of
all of our belongings.
To keep this note from being egregiously long,
because so many of you have stepped forward,
I will just say thank you to all
of you who donated or pooled donations for
our cause.
My family is forever grateful.
I want to personally thank you, Adam, for
sharing the GoFundMe link on X.
That share resulted in a $1,000 donation
that might have brought me to tears.
It has been a slow process, but by
the end of this week, we will finally
be back at home.
Again, thank you Gitmo Nation and the NA
adjacent communities for coming together in our time
of need.
Connection really is protection.
Jingles.
Goat karma for all.
Thank you for your attention to this matter.
Be safe.
Aaron Duvall, a.k.a. Weirdo.
You've got karma.
Schuyler Firestone in Liberty Hill, Texas, 226.
Schuyler Firestone again for Mango Plumbing.
Here to provide you with an excellent plumbing
and an affordable price and an attitude that
says in the morning.
Speaking of that beautiful phrase, if you mention
in the morning or shut up slave, you
will get at least $33 off your final
price because we will know you support this
best podcast in the universe.
Visit, these ads kill me, www.callmango.com.
That's a pretty good one.
RMP and he's got his number there, which
proves that he's got a license.
I'm now qualified for knighthood.
I would like to be known as Sir
Rosas.
I get it.
Sir Rosas of the Hill of Liberty.
The long Al Sharpton, Sigourney Weaver, Bo Jiden
is fine as a clip and definitely needs
some jobs karma, $226.
Yeah, well, we have so many Al Sharpton
long.
A lot of them are all long.
Yeah, so let me see when I, if
I hear it in this one, I'm stopping
it.
If I don't hear it, I'm stopping it.
Resist.
We must, we must.
They're all giddy about a shutdown.
The tortoise in the race.
Then co-author of Hobreece.
You two lead singer Bono.
Fran Drescher, Sigourney Weaver.
Bo Jiden says to wear both masks.
How many masks?
Who says that?
Bo Jiden.
I got the wrong one.
I'm sorry, you meant this one.
That's true.
Jobs.
There we go.
Jobs, jobs and jobs.
Let's vote for jobs.
All right, Dame Lisa is up next.
She's in Foxborough, Massachusetts with a row of
ducks, 222.22. And she says the amusement
and education I get from your podcast is
well worth the anxiety of you always threatening
to quit.
It works.
You have succeeded in guilty.
Finally, someone.
I mean, come on.
It's value for value.
You have succeeded in guilting me into my
second yearly donation of 2025.
Thank you very much.
Baby making karma for my daughter.
Please keep up the good works as Dame
Lisa of Amick Lake.
You got it.
You've got karma.
Sir, camera Chris in Grafton, Wisconsin, 212.13.
This donation 212.13 is a mix of
your finder's fee for a recent wedding I
shot video for.
And today, 828 happens to be my oldest
human resources birthday on the list.
The father of the bride is an amazing
producer with one of the most amazing families
around.
Congrats to the newlyweds.
The bride and groom are a beautiful couple
and both have their heads on straight.
There's hope for the future.
Can I get a little newlywed karma for
the new couple and a happy birthday to
Christian?
Also, I guess since I'm so close to
Linda Lou, I should plug myself.
If any other producers need a photographer or
videographer, mostly in Wisconsin, check out.
Baylor media, B-A-Y-L-O-R
media.com.
That's Baylor media.com.
Thanks, Baronet Baylor, a.k.a. Sir Camera
Chris.
You've got karma.
And there's Jared Bane from Lakewood, Ohio, 21060.
Birthday donation from myself.
Adam's comment about the multiple trumps on the
last episode had me wondering if all the
body doubles meet every once in a while
in the cabinet room.
That's a good question.
I wonder.
That's a good idea.
Yeah.
Body doubles only today.
Body doubles only.
They just might.
Body doubles only today.
Thanks for all you do.
Scott Sarkitash.
Karma, please.
Suffering Sarkitash.
I'm Scott Simon.
You've got karma.
Gabriel.
Gabriel.
Gabriel.
Do the bear, I think, in Gatineau, Quebec,
21060.
Ah, Quebecer.
Gentlemen, I am aggrieved.
Having donated the show 1681, I had meekly
requested divorce karma, which was ruthlessly suppressed.
Imagine my shock and abject horror upon hearing
such karma lackadaisically awarded then in show 1793.
The show aptly named Retribution, for that is
what I now seek.
Well, I don't remember doing that.
Well, I apologize.
I do remember rejecting the divorce karma, but
I don't remember giving divorce karma in the
last show.
Really?
Hoping this news finds you well, Gabriel.
We did that.
You don't remember?
Go look on Bingit.io. Don't you remember
that?
You're wrong.
Adam can pronounce it better in French.
Dubar.
Dubar.
Dubar.
Well, here's your divorce karma.
I hope it all goes well.
You've got karma.
And there's Eli the Coffee Guy.
20828.
There it is.
828 for the date.
Then he says, after seeing the picture of
Governor Pritzker as Fred Flintstone in the newsletter,
it's a newsletter donation.
It is something I'll never be able to
unsee.
Thanks, John.
You ruined one of my favorite childhood cartoons
for me.
I thought I'd never say it, but I
longed for the days Rod Blago Blagojevich was
running the state.
Taxes and crime were out of control, and
they just raised our electric bills by over
20%, as because of that new quantum computing
center, brother, that they got there.
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order.
Thank you for your courage, and stay caffeinated,
says Eli the Coffee Guy.
Which brings us to Linda Lou Patkin, mentioned
earlier in Lakewood, Colorado, $200, jobs karma, worried
about AI for a resume that gets results
and tells your unique story and highlights your
value or the value you bring.
Go to imagemakersinc.com, that's imagemakersinc with a
K, and work with Linda Lou, Duchess of
Jobs and writer of winning resumes.
Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.
Let's vote for jobs.
Yeah, there you go.
Why am I modulating?
Well, you kind of blew it, honestly.
That was a bad read.
I made one little, no, I saved it.
It was a save.
Save, but there's no save.
It was a great save, dude, to be
honest about it.
It was terrific.
There's no saving on ad reads.
You've got to do it right.
You've got to nail it the first time.
Otherwise, you know, we have to have a
meeting.
Linda Lou, thank you to these executive and
associate executive producers.
Once again, these are official and very real
credits.
If anyone questioned you on them as you
put them on your resume, I wonder if
Linda Lou puts it on her resume or
puts it on any resume.
So she said, hey, got a great idea.
Let's put your no agenda producership on your
resume.
Linda Lou, we'd like to know.
We'd like to know if that helps people
get jobs.
You are the expert, as someone recently said
to me, the SME.
Someone that texted me.
We don't have an SME in video.
Like SME in video.
What is that?
Small, medium, SME.
Subject matter expert.
Oh, I didn't know this.
I did not know.
I was surprised that I had never heard
this used.
So Linda Lou, you are the SME of
the resumes.
And of course, these credits are good for
your lifetime.
And we appreciate you very much.
We'll be thanking the rest of our supporters,
Value for Value, $50 and above in our
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Congratulations to these multiple producers.
Our formula is this.
We go out, we hit people in the
mouth.
Man, we've talked about a lot of stuff,
but we haven't talked about important stuff.
Then I did want to talk about some.
In particular, what's going on over in the
EU's.
The first thing, as expected, and yes, some
would say predicted, the military, I'm sorry, the
war economy of the EU is cranking up.
And now that Germany has no other economy,
we're going to have to make the young
people serve in the army, in this Bundeswehr.
And of course, it's all going to be
voluntary.
Don't worry.
The bill aims to boost German firepower with
80,000 new soldiers and 150,000 new
reservists through a new voluntary military service scheme.
We're now really approaching this task with the
declared target of having 260,000 soldiers in
Germany.
And we want to achieve this target.
My goal is that Germany, due to its
size and economic strength, is the country that
must have the strongest conventional army in NATO
on the European side.
The bill would introduce opt-in military service
for young Germans, with improved pay and conditions
to entice new recruits.
And to prepare for war and the automatic
reimplementation of conscription, the bill includes a national
census of young people's readiness to serve.
All young Germans would receive a questionnaire as
of next January to assess their fitness, skills
and willingness.
Compulsory for men, but voluntary for women.
And as of July 2027, 18-year-old
men would undergo a mandatory physical exam, whether
they opt for military service or not.
The bill still needs to be voted in
parliament, but its announcement comes just months after
Germany passed a whopping 500 billion euro spending
bill to fund infrastructure and defence industry investments.
We not only need a well-equipped force,
which we are working hard to achieve and
have been doing so for two and a
half years without stopping.
We also need a Bundeswehr with sufficient personnel.
Only then will the terrorists as a whole
be truly credible vis-Ã -vis Russia.
There it is.
Because you got to be afraid of Russia
for the rest of your lives, young people.
Yes, conscription can be possible in this bill.
We'll see if it passes.
And this is all part of who is
going to have boots on the ground in
Ukraine.
Will there be boots on the ground?
What will the Article 5-like provisions be?
Well, for that answer, we go to our
Canadian SME, subject matter expert, Andrew Risoulis.
My guy.
Let me just go first to the boots
on the ground option.
It guarantees the most important thing.
And there's a lot of circular discussion going
on here.
People saying the Russians have no say on
what NATO does or Western powers do.
The point is they do because they have
to agree to a ceasefire or a peace
in which case those forces could, in theory,
come into play.
So the Russians have repeatedly said that's not
going to happen.
And unless they change their minds, it's not
going to happen.
So now let's go on with that one
a bit.
So it's circular.
The Russians want like a UN Security Council
thing.
And Ukraine wants boots on the ground, some
kind of a guarantee.
The prime minister, of course, saying that's a
possibility.
Now, the Italians have floated an interesting idea,
which has not got much press, but Maloney
at the White House on Monday brought it
up on the table.
And that's essentially an idea that Ukraine might
get Article 5 type by certain countries of
the Western alliance, not part of NATO, but
independently, bilaterally.
But the key thing is no boots on
the ground.
So the Italians are saying, put in the
guarantees.
You can have forces not in Ukraine that
are positioned to go in in case there's
a breakdown in the ceasefire or the settlement.
But you actually use a Norway option.
Norway is a member of NATO, but has
no NATO troops on the ground, never has.
It's part of Norway's law.
They allow for training.
They allow for prepositioning.
It's a way of not antagonizing the Russians
and the Soviets back in the Cold War
days.
And there you go.
So we may just have boots in every
individual country.
Just waiting to hang around.
And on this, particularly these Scandinavian NATO countries,
I caught a YouTube of a guy named
Stanislav Kapivnik.
Stanislav Kapivnik.
Think he's Russian, was Russian, is Russian.
I don't know.
But he had Colonel Wilkerson on.
Have you seen the Colonel Wilkerson?
Yeah, he's been, we've clipped him before.
So he had, I just have two relatively
short clips.
Because we're always talking about, you know, the
elites and how we're doing this and the
CIA, and they're the ones that go in
and the economic hitmen.
And he was apparently part of the real
danger, which we were warned of by General
Eisenhower, President Eisenhower, the military industrial complex.
And in this, what are you listening to?
Are you doing a different podcast?
Are you on with the, with the Chanel?
Are you doing a hit?
Are you doing a hit?
What are you doing?
Are you literally just browsing around while I'm
talking?
No.
Well, what was that?
Something auto started.
Because you're browsing around.
You're just browsing around during the show.
No, I am not.
I'm listening because I want to hear about
Wilkerson.
Turns out the military industrial complex is responsible
for a lot.
It seems, you know, the Europeans are ever
more hell bent on unwinding this, making it
as wide as possible.
It does.
I think merits and Macron and Starmer in
particular, but other leaders too, following in their
wake, so to speak.
I think they're all going to be gone
very shortly.
I don't think any of them are long
live because I think their people are going
to understand eventually what's going on.
You know, I know people don't believe me,
but in 2002, I was there when we
started buying governments.
We bought newspapers.
We bought editors.
We bought reporters.
We bought politicians.
We bought people who would be Jen Stoltenberg's.
We bought people to change, and we didn't
do it the way the CIA did it
in Chile, for example, in 68, 69 and
70 and turn them all against Allende.
We didn't do it for that reason because
we disguised it.
We disguised it by weaponizing liberal democracy, and
we sent in non-governmental organizations.
We sent in U.S. aid.
We sent other people in.
We call them Quayogs, some of them, Quasar
government operations.
We sent them in, and they had a
mission, and they didn't even know why they
were carrying out their mission.
In many events, their mission was to democratize
these people and to democratize them in a
way that would make them want to be
members of NATO.
Yes, Quayogs.
Of course, the DIA is much more sneaky
than the CIA, and they also did Ukraine.
We reaped this.
People ask me, why would a country that
had a years and years long history of
neutrality, think the Scandinavian countries, for example, even
Norway?
Yeah, okay, and Tromso, we had some Marine
Pompkos and things like that, but not a
member of NATO, not officially a member of
NATO.
Why would these countries come in?
We bought them.
We got them in, and then we put
the fine cap on it.
We created Ukraine to make them grow increasingly
fearful of Russia, because we knew when we
created Ukraine in our image, that Russia would
find that unacceptable and eventually would attack, and
they did.
Then we said, Joe Biden got this one,
he'll take Lithuania next and Estonia and Latvia,
and then Poland.
We did this.
We did this.
History books will show that we did this
20, 30 years from now.
I believe him.
But we said this already on the show.
Well, not- That we're talking about Brennan
being in the Maidan.
But he's Defense Intelligence Agency, not Central Intelligence
Agency.
Well, that makes you wonder exactly why Brennan
was in Maidan.
He's CIA.
For the party.
He was there for the chicks, for the
party, for the champagne.
The dead guy.
I completely believe- He does not look
like a party animal to me.
The DIA, they are the ones.
And they're the ones on social media.
They have a whole unit.
Their whole nudge unit, that's all defense.
And that's what we were warned of, of
the military industrial complex.
That's why I play these clips.
I believe that.
I believe it was Defense Intelligence Agency.
That's what Laura Logan's husband did.
Now, he says, I can talk about it
now because it's past whatever time.
I was PSYOPs, man.
I was PSYOPs.
DIA PSYOPs.
I believe it.
I think that you're starting to act like
a Fredericksburger.
I am not convinced that the DIA is
as omnipotent as he says, or anybody does.
Because I think they're the boneheads of the
group.
I don't know.
They probably maybe got it started, but they
had to have Brennan and the boys go
in there to really take care of it.
You don't think that Victoria Nuland's got anything
to do with the DIA.
I really doubt it.
State Department?
I don't know.
The State Department's different.
That's another group of spooks.
So it's a whole bunch of spooks.
But I'm...
Well, they're all trying to take credit for
each other's work.
Well, there's that.
For sure, there's that.
No, but there it is.
We bought off editors.
We bought off newspapers.
Again, the CIA process.
Now, he demeans what they did, what the
CIA did in Chile, as if it was
like a one-off.
Well, look what they did.
It sucks.
And we do a better job because we
bought all these guys.
I think this is nonsense.
All I know is the CIA was recruiting
woke children.
So I don't think that the new CIA
is all that impressive.
I'm withholding judgment.
I'm not...
I don't think the DIA is that impressive,
if you're going to think that way.
I think they're full of shit.
How about that?
Okay.
That's Dvorak, California.
Go get them, boys.
You won't be able to get out of
Texas with their electric cars.
You'll find them next to the heroin dealer.
It's easy to locate.
Just ask around.
Just ask the hotties.
They'll point you in the right direction.
Well, I thought it was a nice little
series.
I think it was enjoyable.
I'm not arguing about the clip or the
quality.
I'm just...
I think there's the analysis that I'm complaining
about.
Quite proud of myself.
Hey, dig up a Wilkerson clip.
Yeah, I guess so.
There's a meltdown in Magalan, everybody.
Meltdown in Magalan.
Is this what you voted for?
Yeah, that's right.
Did you vote for this?
Frau Ingraham is mad.
Mr. Secretary, with all due respect, how is
allowing 600,000 students from the communist country
of China putting America first?
Well, the president's point of view is that
what would happen if you didn't have those
600,000 students is that you'd empty them
from the top.
All the students would go up to better
schools.
And the bottom 15% of universities and
colleges would go out of business in America.
So his view is he's taking a rational
economic view, which is classic Donald Trump looking
at higher education and saying, until we modify
that.
That just helps Harvard and UCLA and UCAL
Berkeley.
And I mean, y'all helping those schools.
Why?
They're like, you know, basically factories of anti
-American propaganda.
Now they're getting a big influx of cash
because of the Chinese students.
I mean, I know President Trump has always
been very pro-Chinese student.
I just don't understand it.
The life of me.
Those are 600,000 spots that American kids
won't get.
Well, I'll tell you what I'm involved.
I'm involved in changing the H-1B program,
right?
We're going to change that program because that's
terrible, right?
We're going to change the green card.
You know, we give green cards.
The average American makes $75,000 a year
and the average green card recipient $66,000.
So we're taking the bottom quartile.
Like, why are we doing that?
That's why Donald Trump is going to change
it.
That's the gold card that's coming.
And that's we're going to start picking the
best people to come into this country.
It's time for that to change.
I think our American engineering students need to
be given the first role at every job.
And I think they're brilliant when given half
a chance.
But Mr. Secretary, I know you're juggling a
lot of balls over there.
We really appreciate your explaining a lot of
this to us.
Thank you.
Well, first of all, is the average wage
in America $75,000?
I think it's lower.
It's a good thing, but you ask your
buddy there.
What, the DIA guy?
No, your machine.
I'm not going to ask my machine that.
Ask her.
Oh, what's the average wage in the American
public?
I'm going to have to change her tone
so she doesn't sound so sexy.
You're all kind of giddy about it.
Oh, are you getting worked up about it?
Hold on a second.
What is the average income in the United
States of America?
The average annual income in the U.S.
is around $62,000.
Boom.
Told you.
Lies.
Yes, Howard Lutnick lies.
So the thing about the, you know, I
know, I think we've determined, or at least
I am totally convinced that UC Berkeley is
a stronghold of CIA operations to recruit foreign
students.
I mean, Ling Ling and Ding Dong over
there got caught in North Korea.
Right out of the journalism school.
Ling Ling and Ding Dong.
I forgot about that.
Yeah, I remember them.
Yes, Ling Ling.
Ling Long Sing Song Ding Dong.
Yes.
And so Berkeley has a tonnage of Chinese
nationals, always has, even when I was a
student, which was years before any of this
started to happen.
But now they, and they can, they try
to recruit them is what they're trying to
do.
You get a couple of thousand of these
guys and maybe one of them will turn,
you know, and be a good agent, a
spook for the agency going back to China,
because they all go back to China.
And so I don't, I think that's the
reason for this.
600,000.
I mean, if they're all getting a gold
card and spending a million, I can see
that.
I mean, all right, now you know what
you're getting.
You're getting true party members.
But MAGA not happy.
Is this exactly what you said?
Is this what you voted for?
Is this what you voted for?
I love that.
That's great.
Everyone always.
Yeah.
But it's really true.
There's a large segment of people who are
just continuously disappointed in President Trump.
Continuously.
They were disappointed from the get go.
They never liked the guy in the first
place.
No, no, no, no.
They don't like anything he does.
They were hopeful.
They were hopeful.
For what?
What did they expect the guy to do?
He's going to expose the elites, the pedos,
drain the swamp, all this stuff.
And he's done none of it.
I tell you, none of it.
They're just telling me what people are saying.
I understand their disappointment.
Be practical.
I'm not talking to you.
I'm talking about to them.
Oh, okay.
Let's go to this, these clips.
I got four of them.
Nat cast one post.
What is this?
It's a series of clips.
Okay.
So if I'm understanding this correctly, the company
is set up because they're going to get
handed a whole boatload of money and then
they're going to turn around and allocate it
to specific kinds of research.
Oh, I'm sorry, Nat.
Okay.
I won't complain about your naming, but okay.
It was not here because yes, here's.
Yeah.
They all say one, but this.
Yeah.
And the post, you know, you can complain
about the naming because it lacks.
A certain consistency.
I agree with you before we get to
it.
You have two number threes.
Which one do I play when we get
to it?
Have you determined that?
I'm going to have to look at the
time codes or we look at the date.
Here we go.
One of them is the number four.
Okay.
Commerce secretary Howard Lutnick announced that he's clawing
back billions of dollars earmarked by the Biden
administration for a company called Nat cast.
What the heck is Nat cast?
Well, it's basically a middleman that decides who
gets pieces of the government fiscal pie, specifically
cash set aside in the chips and science
act for semiconductor research.
In a letter obtained by the post, Lutnick
said that he was canceling a multi-billion
dollar contract that funneled taxpayer dollars through Nat
cast, which again, was created by the Biden
administration with a hunk of money.
And we're talking billions here that was pushed
just a few days before the former president
left office.
The nonprofit selection committee was made up of
former Biden administration alums.
And according to Lutnick, it effectively cut the
current administration out of the mix entirely.
Joining me now, the New York Post reporter
who broke this story, Washington bureau chief Josh
Christensen.
So Josh, it's pretty rare that we talk
about something on the podcast that no one
has ever heard of.
Why does this company Nat cast exist?
I mean, who runs it?
Well, Nat cast was an invention of the
Biden administration.
It was something that was cooked up, you
know, the last two years of the Biden
administration and basically crammed full of staff from
departing members of the commerce department, other allies
of the admin.
And it was a nonprofit that was essentially
set up to receive $11 billion worth of
taxpayer funding in order to transmit it towards
semiconductor research and development.
Yeah, this is a big controversy.
This what's interesting to me is this is
not being discussed much.
I never heard a Nat cast.
No, I never heard of that.
And here we go with another bullcrap operation.
It was set up as a front for
money laundering.
And the way I see it, this is
just money going to somebody's pockets.
We don't need that.
Semiconductor companies make enough money that they can
do their own damn research.
And most of the research in semiconductors nowadays
is done out of Holland.
But that company that makes the U.V.
A.S.M.L. Those guys.
Yeah, those guys are the hot shots in
this regard.
These semiconductor companies, all they do is design
chips and they don't need research money.
This is bullcrap.
OK, so if I'm understanding this correctly, the
company is set up because they're going to
get handed a whole boatload of money and
then they're going to turn around and allocate
it to specific kinds of research involving semiconductors.
OK, I kind of have that squared away
now.
So that doesn't sound, I don't know, weird
to me.
Can you explain to me what the issue
is?
What is Letnik saying the problem is with
NatCast getting that money and then allocating it
as they see fit?
The main problem is the lack of federal
oversight and the fact that such an entity
which has existed in the past and will
certainly exist again in which a private group
is stood up by the government in order
to distribute funding.
You know, any kind of law will have
different sorts of funding initiatives, often flow to
state entities, nonprofits, that sort of thing.
But in this case, the law, the CHIPS
Act, which was one of the big bills
that Biden passed during his admin, did not
set up any sort of independent extra governmental
entity to take all that money and throw
it out the door.
And Letnik is saying, well, we have no
clue where all this went.
And in particular, what we know for a
fact is it was 11 billion dollars in
total, but 7.4 billion dollars worth of
that went out the door in the last
four days of the administration with no oversight.
And so he's wanting to, you know, call
them to account for this and say, well,
you know, where is this money gone?
We don't know.
We have no way of looking into it.
And so I'm voiding this agreement as it
stands currently.
OK, so on the is that what you
voted for side of the equation?
The complaint is what kind of capitalism is
this where you're taking a stake in companies?
I did not hear anyone say what kind
of capitalism is this where you're giving people
money?
It's both wrong.
Well, I say if you're going to give
him money, at least get something.
Well, I mean, I'm not a defender of
the idea of buying chunks of Intel, which
is most people see as a failing company.
Yeah.
Unless, you know, something's going to happen and
it's going to profit the government.
Oh, insider trading by the government.
Interesting.
That would be OK.
Yeah, yeah.
That would be great.
But do you think that's possible?
I don't.
Because I don't think the government's that skilled.
But this whole NatCast thing and throwing this
is too much money being just thrown around
aimlessly.
This is ridiculous waste.
But it was already thrown around.
It was already.
Yeah, well, it goes.
Everyone's gone nuts.
Yes.
So now I've looked at the timestamps and
I believe the two minute 11 clip will
be clip four.
Could that be right?
We have a one minute clip next.
And here we go.
What happens to the money now?
Where does this money go, especially if there's
a legal challenge?
I mean, is it just sitting there in
limbo?
I mean, it was kind of I mean,
as far as I could tell, they were
saying that up until 2034, there were plans
to have some sorts of payments annually.
So it's unclear whether the voiding of it
would then allow them to claw it back
entirely or whether they've already tried to send
most of it out, even from NatCast.
Right.
So it's even a step further away from
the government's coffers.
But, yeah, it's something that I'm sure Lutnick's
team was talking about with them today after
they received the letter.
As with the EPA case, you know, you
see there's many steps in the process before
the government can actually just get the money
back because it's already gone through so much
to get out of taxpayers hands and into
the pockets of special interests or whoever might
be in line for it.
This is a facet of the changing of
the garden government that I never actually knew
about or thought of, but it makes a
lot of sense.
So a very great story.
Thank you for breaking it and coming on
the podcast to talk about it.
Josh Christensen, thanks so much.
Sounds like we did him out of order.
I think that probably concludes it.
I don't think you need to play the
long clip.
But just so you know, the long clip
was done at 820 and 41 seconds and
the shorter clip was 820 and 20 seconds.
So I just presumed.
I think that may have been the chip
time.
Probably.
Yeah.
So it doesn't make any sense.
All right.
Well, I'd have to go to the original
files, but I think that summarizes the problem
is we have another waste of taxpayers money.
And you wonder why we're in debt.
Thirty five trillion dollars.
But that's that's all ending.
That's all ending.
Oh, are you kidding me?
Any minute now.
Any minute.
I, of course, watch the the Trump show,
the cabinet meetings.
Highly.
Three and a half hour.
Trump.
Oh, I love it.
Extravaganza.
I can't get enough of it.
I I wait to set it up, set
it up, set it up, set up.
Here is NPR.
We'll set it up for you.
Did anything else stand out to you about
this very, very long cabinet meeting?
Well, it was very, very long, according to
Fact Base, which how long was it?
Asked these things.
It was the longest Trump event ever, longer
than any other cabinet meeting.
And it was effusive.
Cabinet secretaries took turns showering Trump with praise
like the labor secretary who said Trump should
come over to the department to see the
banner they now have hanging on the side
of the building of his, quote, big, beautiful
face.
Oh, my goodness.
Well, that's what NPR does with your money.
We'll just actually listen to what was said.
This is now Scott Besant, who, by the
way, I should mention this is part of
the A-gays.
Have you heard about this?
The A-gays?
Nope.
You've got me on this one.
Yes.
Yes.
A-gays?
Yes.
That's a new term.
So he's gay?
I didn't know he's out gay.
Oh, Besant.
Yeah, yeah.
Besant's gay.
Oh, OK.
Besant.
A-gays?
Yeah, it's called the A-gays.
Here, New York Times.
I got the article for you.
Donald Trump's...
It's not loading now, of course, for a
moment.
I don't know why that's happening.
Hold on.
I had it on archive.org, but for
some reason the New York Times probably took
it down.
Here we go.
Donald Trump's big gay government.
Big gay government?
Yes, because he has a lot of gay
guys in there.
And...
Oh, shoot, man.
I'm sorry.
Now I can't get to the article.
Oh, that sucks so bad.
Let me see.
They blocked it.
They did block it.
Well, let me see.
Here's another version of it.
So they talk about the A-gays.
They're mostly...
It's A-gays?
A-gays.
G-a-y-s?
Yes, as in the top dogs.
The top gays.
So it'd be a capital A?
Capital A-capital G-a-y-s.
They're mostly out.
They're proud to work for President Donald Trump,
and they have big jobs inside or alongside
this administration.
They have big what?
They have big jobs.
Big jobs inside or alongside this administration.
They wield influence all over town, from the
Pentagon to the State Department to the White
House to the Kennedy Center.
We're like Visa.
We're everywhere you want to be.
The most powerful out gay man in the
Trump administration is Besant.
There are a handful of others in the
Treasury Department.
Other A-gays include Tony Fabrizio, the president's
longtime pollster, Trent Morse, outgoing deputy assistant to
the president, Richard Grenell, who was put in
charge of the Kennedy Center, and Jacob Helberg,
an undersecretary of state.
These are just some.
There are lots of other lesser-known men
who make up the tribe.
This is a great article.
Let me read another paragraph.
They're overwhelmingly white.
Oh, it's the white gays.
The white gays.
There's something bad.
We knew there was something wrong with them.
They tend to have a certain kind of
look.
Close-cropped haircuts, windowpane suits.
They're not the type to be telling anyone
their pronouns or using the word queer.
No, because they're normal guys who just happen
to like guys.
They don't have to be weird and queer.
And they aren't the least bit offended that
the leader of their party continues to stoke
a moral panic about transgender people.
Exactly.
They're gay.
How is this a shocker to anybody?
The New York Times.
They're gay, but they're still Republicans.
This is fantastic.
Keep reading.
Really?
You want me to keep reading?
Let me see if I can.
The gay men who work for him are
keenly aware they're in hostile territory, surrounded by
other gay men who consider themselves deluded traitors
or worse At gay bars around town and
on dating apps, they're either iced out or
confronted about the things this president has said
and done.
He cut AIDS relief around the world and
HIV vaccine research and funding for LGBTQ plus
suicide prevention services.
Not true.
His defense secretary announced during Pride Month that
the Navy vessel named after Harvey Milk will
be renamed as an outrage amongst the gay
community.
Perhaps most worrying for many gay people is
how the conservative Supreme Court has become thanks
to Trump.
Could same-sex marriage go the way of
Roe?
It's not out of the question.
This is all supposition at this point in
the article.
In other words, the New York Times article
that you started reading with some actual information,
although it's an upside down pyramid the way
to do journalism, but that's OK.
It shows that it just starts to fall
apart and go into supposition and opinion.
Gay Trump appointees interviewed for this article, some
of whom said they weren't authorized to speak
on the record, dismiss such a probrium, a
probrium, what does that mean?
You need to ask your friend.
I can almost define it, but I can't
with any real accuracy.
Something that brings disgrace.
OK.
Public disgrace.
Dismiss such a probrium as overheated liberal whining.
They argue that the battle for gay rights
has basically been won, and there's never been
a Republican as friendly to the gays as
Trump.
He's a friendly gay lover guy.
Did they say the gays?
No, they said gay.
Did I say the gays?
He said the gays.
They argue for the battle for gay rights
has basically been won.
There's never been a Republican as friend.
Yeah, as friendly to the gays as Trump.
Yeah, there you go.
The gays.
The gays.
Did you write this for the New York
Times?
Own up to it.
This is a great article.
I just love the whole a gays.
Yeah.
And you know what?
They're just good looking men who are just
dressing nicely, doing their thing, not walking around
going, I'm gay.
Yes.
Surprise.
They're gays, not fruits.
Yeah.
Surprised.
What?
New York Times surprise.
Anyway, here's the course they were.
Here's the top a gay Scott Besson telling
us we don't have to worry about the
deficit.
On the international front, you have leveled the
international trading system whereby countries took advantage of
us.
And that's over.
It's over.
The Treasury Department is taking in record tariff
revenues that I had been saying was running
at a rate of 300 billion a year.
You chastise me for saying that it's not
that that number is too low.
And as usual, you're right that we had
a substantial jump from July to August.
And I think we're going to see a
bigger jump from August to September.
So I think we could be on our
way well over half a trillion, maybe the
towards the trillion dollar number.
This administration, your administration has made a meaningful
dent in the budget deficit.
The average budget deficit during this term is
26 percent less than the last 12 months
under Biden and even the CBO.
And we don't agree with CBO on everything.
As you said last Friday, on a summer
Friday, had to admit that they believe over
the next 10 years, the budget deficit will
be four trillion lower than they had previously
scored.
Four trillion, 3.3 trillion of tariff income,
700 billion of lower interest costs.
And I would expect that that number could
go up from here.
Four trillion dollars.
It's going to be great.
We'll only have 32 trillion to go.
I'll believe it when I see it.
But before we go anywhere, we have a
lot more show to go.
We have, of course, end of show mixes.
We have a tip of the day and
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That's a dynamite jingle.
That tops it.
We got the best producers in the universe,
man.
Well, that guy, whoever did that, you should
credit.
Well, that is a very good question.
Hold on.
I should.
Hold on a second.
Guy goes through all his work.
We take all the credit.
Thank you very much.
We appreciate what you did.
And now I...
Oh, here it is.
Jeff Woodward.
There we go.
Jeff Woodward.
Jeff Woodward is an awesome dude.
All right.
We have a dame and a couple of
knives.
That is very...
That is...
It's great.
Ten pointer.
That is as good as it gets.
That is.
All right.
Grab your blade.
We got some knightings and dames.
Yeah, I got one right here.
Hey!
Actually, the dame is Shona in a woof
-woof.
And Paul of Bellevue, Washington.
Commodore SX-64.
And Hank, hop up on the podium.
All of you supported the No Agenda Show
in the amount of $1,000 or more.
Therefore, I am very proud to pronounce the
KV as dame Shona, the protector of Katrina
survivors.
Sir Tall Paul.
Sir Commodore SX-64.
And Sir Hank Itami.
For you, we have hookers and blow, ring
poise and chardonnay.
Not to forget, mega-sized cup of grapefruit
sour along with a bowl of cookies and
cream ice cream.
We've got redheads and ryes.
We've got sparkling cider, escorts, ginger ale and
gerbils.
Of course, we always have the mutton and
the mead here for you.
All of you, including the dog, dame Shona.
Head over to NoAgendaRings.com.
Please let us know exactly what ring size
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We'll send it off to you.
It's a signet ring.
Throw in a couple of sticks of wax,
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And as always, a certificate of authenticity from
your Uncle Boomers, Adam and John, here at
the No Agenda Show.
Welcome to the Roundtable.
No Agenda Meetups.
No Agenda Meetups.
Well, you heard it earlier.
Connection is protection.
You definitely get that at your No Agenda
Meetups.
You can find them all at NoAgendaMeetups.com.
On Saturday, the flight of the No Agenda
No.
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This is 3.33 p.m. in the
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He's one of the longest Meetup hosters in,
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And on Sunday, our next show day, the
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That will be at Dam Wend's house in
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So you do have to RSVP because it's
somebody's home.
Dam, Dam Wend.
Dam Wend.
Maybe it's Dame.
I would have to say Dame Wend's house.
Yes.
You know, Jay is slipping.
She missed two birthdays.
They got spelling.
Is this because Brennan lost his job?
She's all freaked out or what's going on?
I register a complaint.
I will pass it along.
Please do.
She's so sweet.
She's so good.
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Spanking is back in.
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We're looking forward to seeing all of you
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Calendar if you can't find one near you.
Start one yourself.
Easy and always a party.
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Remember, send me those Meetup reports.
We don't get them often enough.
Seems like you only have one ISO here.
I have one ISO.
You want to keep that for the end?
I got three.
You want to keep it for the end?
Yeah, I'll give you three.
Okay.
They're just Durga Durga Mohammed Jihad.
Durga Durga Durga Durga.
I'm sorry.
Here's another one.
Good job, guys.
It's not too bad.
Nice and clear.
Or this one.
Where the hell are these guys getting all
of this?
Those are my three entrants for end of
show ISO.
Well, those are all three good ones, actually.
Thank you.
Especially the one.
Let's play that first one again.
They're just Durga Durga Mohammed Jihad.
Durga Durga Durga Durga.
Got nothing to do with anything.
No, that's why I like it so much.
That's really good, though.
Yeah.
I just have a clip from a Hank
Harrison New King of the Hill show.
Oh, here we go.
I don't believe this.
They're lying on the news.
Okay.
I like that one.
I think you win.
You knew it.
That's why you only had one.
He's like, it's a shoo-in and it's
not even AI.
That is it, everybody.
Are you standing by for John's tip of
the day?
He's ready to roll for you.
With JCD and sometimes Adam.
Okay.
So this is a screwball tip because I
came across it because I'm reading somebody's substack
column and they sell this stuff.
And I said, this is interesting.
So I looked into it.
And then I got irked by the fact
that they're selling this stuff at like three
times what you can buy it for any
place in the world.
And so I got a little annoyed.
But I looked at this as a product.
This is a sugar, sugar, sugar, sugar, sugar,
sugar, sugar, sugar substitute.
That is looks to be safe.
Not toxic.
And people should look this up, do your
own research, but look this stuff up.
You can buy it.
Everybody makes it because there's about three or
four factories here and there that produce it.
It's produced from, there's a natural occurring substance
that you can also extract from fructose.
So it's a factory made product the way
I see it.
And it's called allulose, A-L-L-O,
I'm sorry, A-L-L-U-L-O
-S-E, A-L-L-U-L-O
-S-E.
And I'll read from the Google here.
It's a rare natural sugar found in small
quantities in certain fruits, like figs, for example,
have this stuff and raisins for some reason.
It offers the sweetness of fructose, yet is
metabolically distinct.
It does not affect glucose or insulin levels
in any way, shape or form.
And so it's neutral on the body and
has no calories, basically.
It's got really like a point something calories.
And it tastes just like sugar, exactly the
same.
But this is not a chemical?
It's some kind of extract?
It's actually, it's the C3 epimer of fructose.
So it's a chemical like sucrose, they're all
chemicals at the end of the day.
You go ahead and you eat that.
I'll just have sugar.
Yeah, you can have your sugar, which is
a chemical, by the way, if you haven't
noticed.
Sugar is a chemical?
Yeah, of course it is.
It's sucrose.
Well, how about cane sugar?
It's derived, it's extracted at a refinery.
How about if I just stick a sugar
cane into something I want sweetened?
Is that okay?
That would be fine.
Or you could do what I like to
do, which is use maple syrup.
I love doing that for everything.
Do you know what I do with my
maple syrup?
When I make salmon, and we get salmon
special from somebody who's actually getting it from
somewhere that's not from some farm.
So we have it only once a month,
maybe.
So I will drizzle a little bit of
maple syrup on the top, and then I
will put on lemon pepper.
And then I do 12 minutes at 390
in the oven.
And then five, because it's big pieces, five
minutes under the broiler 500.
Oh, man.
And then that maple syrup, it just comes
to life.
And that's your recipe for overcooked salmon.
Now, going back to this tip of the
day, this is a, you do not pay
more.
This is not a cheap product.
That's why you don't see it in Diet
Coke or anything.
So it's about $10 a pound.
Do not pay more than $10 a pound.
You should be able to get it even
cheaper if you buy it in bulk.
Do not pay over $10 a pound, which
you're just getting ripped off if that's the
case.
But it's called Elulose.
That's the tip of the day as a
sugar substitute.
That is actually probably a good product.
There you go, everybody.
This is John's tip of the day.
Find them all at tipoftheday.net.
And that concludes our broadcast day with that
fine tip of the day from John.
And my tip for overcooked salmon.
I don't think so.
These are big pieces.
I do not overcook my salmon.
Well, they're big giant, I guess.
They're big giant pieces.
Big giant, giant.
We don't miss Texas, man.
We don't mess around.
Hey, stay tuned to noagendastream.com because, you
know, John doesn't like trollroom.io. For the
DH Unplugged podcast, I have not heard this
episode.
It's titled, Jackson Holy.
Well, that promises to be interesting.
And we shall be listening for that.
Also, end of show mix is classic from
a friend who we haven't heard from in
a long time, Sir Chris from Down Under.
And brand new from Sir Joe Joho.
Sir Joho singing about the British flag protest.
Coming to you from the heart of the
Texas hill country, right here in Fredericksburg, Texas.
In the morning, everybody.
I'm Adam Curry.
And from northern Silicon Valley, where we advocate
for bingit.io. I'm John C.
Dvorak.
We return on Sunday.
Please join us then for more media deconstruction.
And remember us at noagendadonations.com.
Until then, adios, mofos, hui hui, and such.
Well, I've watched TV with Danny LaRue, who
dressed for his own pleasure.
And we all saw Decathlon Bruce become Miss
Caitlyn Jenner.
I've never been to a White House ball
sponsored by Big Pharma.
Or invited to a party that was hosted
by Michelle Obama.
Social justice moves too fast for me.
Homophobia is the place to be.
What is a woman's now up for debate?
They say they're not gay, they're definitely not
straight.
Use the right pronouns, or you'll feel the
hate.
That's why the lady is a trance.
Male pattern baldness is under those coats.
Looks like a drag queen in ermine and
pearls.
Can't quite fit in with the rest of
the girls.
That's why the lady is a trance.
She's got that excess bodily hair.
Something down there.
To choke a bloke from California with a
fake neoclan.
That's why the lady is a trance.
Wave it high, wave valence, what's inside?
Don't wanna see slags of pride and unity.
Commies frown and rulers glare, but we still
raise them in the air.
Pushed and bullied, still we stand.
We're still Rossi.
The best podcast in the universe.
Adios, mofo.
Dvorak.org slash NA.
I don't believe this, they're lying on the
news.