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September 21st • 3h 30m

1801: Hate of Speech

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Uh, I'm confused.
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Adam Curry, John C.
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Devorah.
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It's Sunday, September 21st, 2025.
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This is your award-winning Give on Asian
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Media assassination episode 1801.
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This is no agenda.
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Uncancellable and Broadcasted live from the heart of
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the Texas snow country here in FEMA region
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number six.
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In the morning, everybody.
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I'm Adam Curry.
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And from Northern...
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Where are you?
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Northern...
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I thought you had the whole week to
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get ready.
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I did.
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I screwed it up.
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You did.
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Hit it.
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Adam Curry, John C.
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Devorah.
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It's Sunday, September 21st, 2025.
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This is your award-winning Give on Asian
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Media assassination episode 1801.
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This is no agenda.
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Uncancellable and Broadcasted live from the heart of
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the Texas snow country here in FEMA region
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number six.
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In the morning, everybody.
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I'm Adam Curry.
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And from Northern Silicon Valley, where we missed
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it completely.
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How did that happen?
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I'm John C.
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Devorah.
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So I have a question.
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Why are bagpipes often used at funerals?
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It's some tradition in Scotland.
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Was Charlie Kirk of Scottish origin?
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I don't know.
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Maybe.
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Because they have bagpipers.
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I'm surprised you didn't pick up on my
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teaser.
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What, that we completely forgot?
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Yeah.
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Forgot what?
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You don't remember what we forgot?
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Completely?
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We completely have forgotten the last show.
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We forgot it now.
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We completely forgot it.
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It just didn't even come across our desk.
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Did it come across the climate desk?
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No, it wasn't climate.
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No, but it could have come across.
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I really don't know.
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Blackout.
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Oh, no.
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Did we miss blackout?
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Blackout.
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It came and went on the 15th, I
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think.
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And it was well organized.
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There were going to be a million demonstrations.
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The country was going to be in a
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general strike.
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We're going to shut down because of Trump.
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That's interesting.
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We didn't really think that was going to
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work, though, did we?
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Well, we didn't.
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We could have ridiculed it or something.
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We didn't even do that.
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It was such a dud that it wasn't
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even in the news.
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Well, and that's why these things fail.
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If it's not in the news, then it's
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not clipped and sent out on social media.
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There was something else going on in the
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country, in the world at the time.
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And so that's how these things work or
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don't work.
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And maybe it's very possible it was happening
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all over, but we didn't know about it.
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If a tree falls in the forest, does
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anyone hear it?
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If no one's there, does it make a
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sound?
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Well, I was here in the Bay Area
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and I didn't see anybody protesting, walking out,
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you know.
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I suppose someone from the black community could
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say it's supposed to be the blacks that
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were supposed to stop working for some reason.
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The blacks?
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The blacks.
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The blacks.
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You know, we haven't got any jobs.
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So what are we supposed to do?
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So, I got several emails saying, you know,
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you should start the show an hour later.
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I'm like, this is going to be a
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multi-hour thing, this Charlie Kirk Memorial.
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You know, we might as well not do
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a show if, you know, it's like.
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We do a show on our own deathbeds.
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This is true.
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We do it on Christmas.
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We're on vacation.
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We're going to change the show for some
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outside influence.
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I don't think so.
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No.
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And it's a podcast, people.
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You can listen to it anytime.
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I am recording it.
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I will watch it later tonight.
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I'm very interested.
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It's a real moment for America's younger generation.
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That place is packed.
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Now, of course, they're showing me celebrities on
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the quad screen.
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Very important.
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We see who's there.
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Were you there?
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That's some big names.
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Chris Tomlin, Brandon Lake, Phil Wickham.
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These are all big names.
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Yeah.
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Well, you won't see them on the MTV
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awards, but yeah, they're big names.
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I haven't heard of any.
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All three of those names are unknown to
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me because I didn't know who Halsey was
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until I was seeing all these posts because
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they won't let Halsey do another album.
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So I went and I went to YouTube
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to listen to Halsey.
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You're still stuck on Rihanna.
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Just another one of these manufactured acts.
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It's just like she sounds like Taylor Swift
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and probably has a little better voice.
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But the songs are unmemorable and there's lots
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of them.
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Yeah, that's what popular top 40 music has
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always been.
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That's unmemorable.
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I mean, name three songs.
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Hum the hook from three Taylor Swift songs.
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Rihanna, you're a big fan of Rihanna, but
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you can't hum one of her songs.
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I can't.
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Yeah.
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Now, these are Christian contemporary artists.
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They sell out Austin.
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Oh, that's what you would know.
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I wouldn't know.
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No, they sell out Austin two nights, 15
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,000 people each night.
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They're pretty big.
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That's a good business.
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It's a great it's the God business, man.
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It's a good business.
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So I have a suggestion for people.
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Get a ProtonMail or a FastMail account or
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get something other than Gmail.
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Because I am convinced, based on the content
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of your newsletter, that Gmail slash Google slash
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Alphabet destroyed it.
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Well, I think this happens.
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By the way, our girl Catherine in Bangkok
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didn't get the mail either.
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It says a bunch of people didn't get
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it.
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And it's always Gmail.
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And I think you might be right.
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But the problem is every time I send
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out the second note, I get about 10
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to 20 to 30 to 50 to 100
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people say, I've got Gmail.
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I've always gotten the newsletter.
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I don't know what these people's problems are.
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So it's there's something selective about it.
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And I can't and I have yet to
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figure out what it might be.
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It could also, believe it or not, it
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could just also be a massive technical fail.
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Email, you know, there's a lot that can
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go wrong.
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You know, years ago, this is back in
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the early 80s when I was writing for
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the DEC Professional.
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Wow.
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A platform that I don't think is in
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use anymore.
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No, because there's no DEC.
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No.
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Digital Equipment Corporation doesn't exist.
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And I wrote this column.
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Funny thing is the columns I wrote for
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that magazine is the only columns I've won
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any awards for.
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Wait a minute, what award?
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What award did you win?
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I wrote the Computer Press Association Award for
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best column for one of those.
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Computer, did they have a gala every year?
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The Computer Press Association?
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They did, they did.
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And it was gay.
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No, no surprise there.
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Well, it was a gala.
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Oh, a very gala, yes.
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Oh, it took you forever.
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So I wrote this column once there.
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I remember this distinctly because I never got
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so much hate mail in my life.
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It was about during the early days of
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the internet when it was still, you know,
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just after ARPANET at first, you know, you
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get an email account.
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And I did a rant about how that's
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unreliable.
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And it's never going to, you know, it's
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always going to be that way.
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It's just because of the system itself, the
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whole mechanism stinks.
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And oh man, all these nerds, you know,
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these engineers from all these big companies, you
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can't say it's bullcrap.
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This is the best thing ever.
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It's going to work and it works well.
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Well, I'm sorry.
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I was right.
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Well, you're also on video with evidence of
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how you troll Apple people.
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That's one of my favorite pieces of video
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is, you know, you were so glib about,
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oh, this is how I do it.
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You know, I slam Apple and then I'll
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go, yeah, Apple's great.
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And then I'll slam them again.
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And then people whips all back and forth.
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And my audience just keeps growing.
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You are the ultimate troll.
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It's very good.
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Oh, well, I'm not as much as I
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used to be.
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Well, I lost my touch, to be honest
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about it.
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Can you turn your speakers just a little?
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It's really, really coming back loud.
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What is this?
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What is it?
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Yeah, it's coming back loud today for some
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reason.
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It should be okay now.
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Yeah, it's okay now.
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So, oh, I forgot last night, local Fredericksburg
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news report.
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And by the way, before you get your
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Fredericksburg news report, I want to say, so
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Mimi up, who's running for office in Port
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Angeles.
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Yeah, but where's the script?
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She has, oh, it's coming.
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She has a friend who's an ex-police
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and he is connected to the same military
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intelligence people we talked about before.
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Oh, great going down.
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She says, she tells me these stories.
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Why does he think this?
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And I always say that, by the way,
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which includes there's going to be an assassination
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attempt at the Charlie Kirk thing.
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And there's all this and that and all
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the anomalies about the assassination and all the
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rest.
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And I said, you know, and the one
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thing in common, I think that all these
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people have, they refuse to listen to the
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No Agenda show.
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Oh no, why would they?
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It's like Laura Logan doesn't listen to the
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No Agenda show.
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She'll never listen to it because it's, no.
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I can barely get the keeper to listen
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to a full episode.
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She listens.
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You know who listen?
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Everyone at church.
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They love it.
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They love the No Agenda show.
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Everybody's like, yeah.
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Oh, so I walk in, this is the
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Boots and Barbecue.
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This is the big Fredericksburg Tea Party Gala,
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which I like a lot because it doesn't
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cost anything.
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And there's no auction.
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Every gala in the world hasn't, we have
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the silent auction is closed, everybody.
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You know, they did have a silent auction.
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They had an auction if they had a
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silent auction.
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No, no, the silent auction, but it wasn't,
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they had sponsors of the event.
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They didn't have fun.
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It wasn't a fundraising event per se, although
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it is, but all these galas like, and
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then, well, okay, we've got half a cow
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from Ted's Ranch and the bidding starts at
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$800.
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And, you know, and then so people wind
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up buying $4,000 half a cow, you
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know, it's all kind of, it's all like
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kind of icky.
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It's like, yeah, look at me.
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I got the big swinger.
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Just donate your money.
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You know, and there's always something that is
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very overpriced that you don't want.
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Like a week stay in Steamboat, Colorado in
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August.
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What's the name of this thing again?
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Boots and Barbecue.
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And it's organized so that one of the
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big engines behind Boots and Barbecue, also the
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Fredericksburg Tea Party, is Matt Long, who organizes
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our meetups here.
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And Matt's the guy that dresses up as
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Benjamin Franklin and goes into the schools, the
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public schools.
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Actually, he looks like Benjamin Franklin.
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He's one of those guys.
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Oh, he's great.
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He's good at it.
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No, this is, Matt's the real deal.
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One of Benjamin Franklin's, I don't know, relatives,
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direct descendant, a guy named Nick DeWolf was
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a very famous technologist.
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And he, I think he was the great
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-great-grandson or something.
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And he actually looked like Ben Franklin.
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Well, Matt Long looks like Ben Franklin.
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And he also goes- But he's not
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related.
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No, who cares about your stupid story?
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It's like you just derailed everything.
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I know a guy who was friends with
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the great-grandson.
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If you had a good story, you just
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plow through it.
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Yeah, but it wasn't a good story.
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I'm trying to get to it.
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Anyway, so it's a big deal.
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And it's sponsored by, let's see, this is
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a great list of people, Gun Owners of
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America.
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Woo-hoo!
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Ben Franklin?
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No, no, the Boots and Barbecue, the Tea
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Party, the big annual gala.
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Oh, I thought you said it wasn't sponsored
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by anybody.
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No, I said there was no auction where
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they had those stupid auctions.
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Okay.
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A golfing vacation.
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Anyway, I'm hearing something really strange.
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Something's off with my, are you still there?
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Yeah.
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Something's off with the system.
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I don't know what's going on today.
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So, underwritten, let's put it that way.
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Gun Owners of America, the Convention of States,
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Moms for Liberty.
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You can already tell this was a hootenanny.
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This was good.
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And the speaker was, it was that guy.
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Yeah, he has a lot of these podcasts.
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Yeah, a podcast.
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I think the story is getting worse by
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the minute.
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Alex Newman.
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Alex Newman.
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No, he's pretty good.
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Alex Newman did 45 minutes and it was
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the no agenda show.
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It was literally agenda 2021, agenda 2030, Soros,
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Common Core.
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I mean, it was like a run through
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our history.
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And the guys out there making money on
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this.
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I was sitting there going, we could do
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this.
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We'd just get a PowerPoint.
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He had so many slides.
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He said, well, I only have 45 minutes.
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We just fast forwarded through about 50 slides.
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Okay, we're here now.
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But it was good.
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They honored the volunteer fire department of Kerr
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County.
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Of course, we had the floods here.
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So that was really nice.
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But anyway, the point is I bumped into
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Kyle Biederman.
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And Kyle Biederman, why are you laughing?
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It's because this is the most rambling story
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you've ever told.
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All right, nevermind.
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Okay, let's move on to the news.
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But I don't even know who Kyle Biederman
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is.
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I want to know now.
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I'm about to explain.
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He's a state senator.
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Guy who owns ACES.
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Okay, is he from New York?
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He's a Fredericksburg state senator for the Texas
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legislature.
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And he's a Republican.
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Yes.
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And he owns Ace Hardware.
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And he comes out to me and says.
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He owns Ace Hardware?
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The chain?
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No, he owns several franchises.
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Oh, he owns a franchise.
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And a pizza restaurant.
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And he says, I love your show.
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How long you been doing that?
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You guys, you're really good.
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Do you really like each other?
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I said, no, it's just a good show.
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And he said, I love the Florida ounces.
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And his wife, her name is Barbie.
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She has an amazing voice.
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She talks like this.
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Anyway, and Chip Roy.
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Chip Roy was there.
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Did Chip Roy listen to the show?
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Chip Roy doesn't listen to anything or anybody.
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He's at every single one of these.
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He's running for Texas Attorney General.
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That's why he was there.
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And Don Heffanis.
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He's running for comptroller.
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It's a political event.
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But you know what was good?
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The barbecue was good.
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Somehow that story just didn't unpack.
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I think it was all.
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I was going to do a really short
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update.
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And I think you could have started with
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the ending.
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But the barbecue was really good.
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It tasted great.
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The barbecue was good.
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And guess who was there?
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And he likes to know a gender show.
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I think that would have really brought it
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home.
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I'll do better.
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He said a bunch of bands I've never
16:19
heard of.
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The bands were at Charlie Kirk's memorial.
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You're not listening.
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You're very confused.
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No, it's because the story was discombobulated.
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Whatever.
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Okay.
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It was.
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It was bad.
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Oh, okay.
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So here we go.
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Here we go.
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Here we go.
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Now, the topic of the week has been
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free speech.
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And it's really irked me how well, not
16:55
irks me.
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I think people tune into the no agenda
16:58
show or listen to it on the podcast
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to get some actual information to really understand
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what the truth is about something.
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And everybody is full of crap, including Ted
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Cruz.
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What he said there is dangerous as hell.
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And I got to say, that's right out
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of Goodfellas.
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That's right out of a mafioso coming in.
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That's all, folks.
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I wonder if I have that.
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Wow.
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That's got to be some kind of tell.
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That's right out of a mafioso.
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Hold on, I missed it.
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Here we go.
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And I got to say, that's right out
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of Goodfellas.
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That's not it.
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Ah, I thought I had a.
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That's all they got.
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I don't have it.
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I don't have a porky pig.
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All right, onward.
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I got to say, that's right out of
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Goodfellas.
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That's right out of a mafioso coming into
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a bar going, nice bar you have here.
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It'd be a shame if something happened to
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it.
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If the government gets in the business of
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saying, well, hold on a second.
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What is Cruz doing?
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Schtick now?
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Well, this is his podcast.
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It's on his podcast.
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And he's doing voices.
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That wasn't bad, actually.
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I thought his voice.
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No, it wasn't.
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No, I'm not saying it was bad.
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It was pretty good.
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But he's Ted Cruz.
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I know.
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But this is the whole thing stems from
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a dumb or.
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A remark made on a podcast.
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All right, this is where this people don't
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think about what they're saying on podcasts.
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This has been the thesis of yours for
18:37
the entire 18 years we've been doing this
18:41
show.
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And it's a basic thesis.
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You love bringing these these people, these clips
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from these naive people.
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I don't understand it either, to be honest
18:52
about it.
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Why you think that you can say stuff
18:55
on a podcast you wouldn't say on network
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TV?
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Well, it's a they don't consider it to
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be real media to this day.
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It's getting a little closer, I think.
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No, like like Palm Bandi.
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You know, she she said stuff on a
19:15
podcast which was just ridiculous.
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And, you know, we determined that that was
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possibly a Stephen Miller hit, which I think
19:23
is still a very good thesis.
19:25
But let's get back to Ted Cruz with
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his.
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Nice smile you have here.
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It'd be a shame if something happened to
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it.
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If the government gets in the business of
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saying.
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Well, you can't say.
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What did you say something?
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No, that was in the clip.
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Oh, you sound like Cruz.
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If the government gets in the business of
19:44
saying.
19:46
Well, you can't say what you the media
19:49
have said.
19:50
We're going to ban you from the airwaves
19:53
if you don't say what we like.
19:55
That will end up bad for conservatives.
19:59
OK, so let's just go through a couple
20:04
of things which are not really exposed at
20:07
all.
20:10
Or discussed.
20:11
And let's listen first to what Jimmy Kimmel
20:16
actually said.
20:18
We had some new lows over the weekend
20:19
with the MAGA gang desperately trying to characterize
20:22
this kid who murdered Charlie Kirk as anything
20:25
other than one of them and doing everything
20:27
they can to score political points from it.
20:30
In between the finger pointing, there was grieving
20:32
on Friday.
20:33
The wife.
20:33
OK, so the actual offense as it's being
20:37
determined, and we'll get into that in a
20:38
minute.
20:38
Into it is this beginning part.
20:40
And the second part is what everybody's focused
20:43
on.
20:43
We had some new lows over the weekend
20:45
with the MAGA gang desperately trying to characterize
20:49
this kid who murdered Charlie Kirk as anything
20:51
other than one of them and doing everything
20:53
they can to score political points from it.
20:56
In between that was the the true offense
20:59
was saying that this was a MAGA guy.
21:03
He's saying it in reverse, but he's kind
21:05
of saying that.
21:06
And then we go into the the comedy
21:08
portion.
21:08
The finger pointing.
21:09
There was grieving on Friday.
21:11
The White House flew the flags at half
21:13
staff, which got some criticism.
21:15
But on a human level, you can see
21:17
how hard the president is taking this.
21:20
My condolences on the loss of your friend,
21:21
Charlie Kirk.
21:22
May I ask, sir, personally, how are you
21:24
holding up over the last day and a
21:26
half, sir?
21:26
I think very good.
21:27
And by the way, right there, you see
21:29
all the trucks.
21:30
They just started construction of the new ballroom
21:32
for the White House, which is something they've
21:35
been trying to get, as you know, for
21:36
about 150 years.
21:38
And it's going to be a beauty.
21:41
Yes, he's at the fourth stage of grief,
21:43
construction, demolition, construction.
21:50
This is not how an adult grieves the
21:52
murder of somebody he called a friend.
21:53
This is how a four year old mourns
21:55
a goldfish.
21:57
OK, it was offensive towards the president because
22:00
really, you know.
22:03
I don't know if the president even heard
22:05
the first bit that the that the reporter
22:08
asked, like, you know, the murder of Charles.
22:11
Sorry about the murder of your friend, Charlie
22:13
Kirk.
22:13
How are you holding up?
22:14
Or maybe he's an 80 year old who's
22:16
like, huh?
22:17
What?
22:17
Yeah, I'm doing great.
22:18
Look at the construction over there.
22:19
I don't know.
22:20
But that's fine.
22:21
That's what it seems like.
22:22
Well, here's here's the full clip of that
22:24
in context.
22:25
My condolences to you, sir, actually.
22:27
My condolences on the loss of your friend,
22:29
Charlie Kirk.
22:29
May I ask, sir, personally, how are you
22:31
holding up over the last day and a
22:33
half, sir?
22:34
I think very.
22:34
You see, it really I mean, that's from
22:36
the that's standing next to the president.
22:38
It's a different camera angle.
22:39
It's kind of hard to hear what he
22:40
said, but regardless.
22:42
So then Brendan Carr, the FCC chairman, goes
22:46
on the Benny Johnson podcast and shoots his
22:50
mouth off, although technically I believe he is
22:52
correct.
22:53
There's a very concerted effort to try to
22:56
lie to the American people about the nature,
23:00
as you indicated, one of the most significant
23:02
newsworthy public interest acts that we've seen in
23:07
a long time.
23:09
And what appears to be an action appears
23:11
to be an action by Jimmy Kimmel to
23:15
play into that narrative that this was somehow
23:19
a MAGA or Republican motivated person.
23:23
If that's what happened here with his conduct,
23:26
that is that is really, really sick.
23:27
I've been very clear.
23:28
Haitian, they have a license granted by us
23:31
at the FCC.
23:32
And that comes with an obligation to operate
23:35
in the public interest.
23:36
And we can get into some ways that
23:37
we've been trying to reinvigorate the public interest
23:39
in some changes that we've seen.
23:41
But frankly, when you see stuff like this,
23:44
I mean, look, we can do this the
23:45
easy way or the hard way.
23:46
These companies can find ways to change conduct
23:50
to take action, frankly, on Kimmel or there's
23:54
going to be additional work for the FCC
23:56
ahead.
23:57
So kind of a dumb statement because it
24:00
did sound threatening.
24:02
But what people don't understand is how the
24:07
system works, because everyone just watches stuff on
24:10
X or you watch it maybe on YouTube
24:12
TV.
24:13
This is legacy.
24:15
Legacy of spectrum, which is very valuable.
24:20
You know, you probably read about auctions.
24:22
Oh, a billion dollars here.
24:23
Ten billion dollars here.
24:25
Seventeen.
24:25
I think Starlink just bought some spectrum from
24:29
somebody else for seventeen billion dollars.
24:31
So the broadcast spectrum is owned by all
24:32
of us, the taxpayers.
24:34
And the licensing requirements are very clear, although
24:38
they really have not ever been enforced because
24:41
most presidents and administrations have been afraid of
24:47
the media.
24:47
Like, well, you know, if we start to
24:50
mess with them, then, you know, they'll say
24:52
bad things about me.
24:53
Well, I don't think President Trump has anything
24:54
to lose in that manner.
24:55
And it really is not the networks.
24:58
It's each local individual station that has a
25:01
transmitter, which if they just turn those off
25:04
and went, you know, full digital, they would
25:07
not have to deal with any of this
25:09
yet.
25:10
Well, yes, that's true.
25:13
So there's a few requirements.
25:16
First of all, you have to be a
25:18
citizen.
25:19
Can't be a foreign government.
25:20
This is why Rupert Murdoch became an American.
25:22
Character.
25:24
An applicant must act honestly.
25:26
Intentional misrepresentations greatly increase the risk of license
25:30
denial or non-renewal.
25:32
Criminal conduct may or may not disqualify an
25:36
applicant.
25:36
When reviewing competing applications, an applicant who has
25:40
no character issues more likely to receive the
25:43
license than one with legal violations, etc., financial
25:46
requirements, and there's technical requirements.
25:48
But there are some very specific laws about
25:53
what you can and can't broadcast.
25:55
So first, let's continue with Benny.
25:56
These are all short with Benny Johnson and
25:58
Brendan Carr.
25:59
Obviously, there's calls for him to be fired.
26:02
I think, you know, you could certainly see
26:05
a path forward for suspension over this.
26:08
And again, you know, the FCC is going
26:10
to have remedies that we could look at.
26:12
And again, you know, we may ultimately be
26:14
called to be a judge on that.
26:15
But this also strikes me as sort of
26:17
conduct that to some extent shows some sort
26:22
of desperate irrelevance.
26:24
I mean, look, NPR has been defunded.
26:26
PBS has been defunded.
26:28
Colbert is retiring.
26:30
Joy Reid is out at MSNBC.
26:32
Terry Moran has gone from ABC into now
26:35
admitting that they are biased.
26:38
CBS has now made some commitments to us
26:40
that they're going to return to more fact
26:42
-based journalism.
26:43
And so I think you see some lashing
26:45
out from people like Kimmel, who are, frankly,
26:49
talentless.
26:52
It's like, this is a podcast and he
26:55
thinks that no one watches Benny Johnson.
26:57
I'll do this quick.
26:58
Benny Johnson is a big podcaster.
27:00
Of course he is.
27:01
Although, man, go look at his YouTube channel.
27:05
You know, he does with the YouTube channel.
27:07
If you want to just find the Brendan
27:08
Carr interview, good luck, because every image is
27:12
AI generated of outraged looking people, you know,
27:16
because that's what you have to do in
27:17
order for the algorithms to pick it up
27:19
and people to click on it.
27:21
Oh, there's an outrage clip.
27:22
Oh, I got to check that out.
27:24
So before you continue, I want to comment
27:26
on that clip.
27:29
The way he cavalierly says that PBS and
27:31
NPR have been defunded is ridiculous.
27:35
They're not defunded at all.
27:37
They're not even close to being defunded.
27:39
What he meant to say, or should have
27:41
said, was that the government's not giving them
27:43
any more subsidies, and that amounts to 1
27:47
% of their budget.
27:48
So how is that defunded?
27:50
It's not.
27:50
He's an idiot in line with Palm Bandy.
27:54
He should be fired.
27:55
Well, he might get fired.
27:58
And maybe this was intentional.
28:00
I don't know.
28:01
It doesn't seem like it.
28:02
It seems like he's just shooting his mouth
28:04
off.
28:04
And as a commissioner, that's not your job.
28:07
We finally know his job.
28:08
You're absolutely correct.
28:10
This guy should not be on a podcast
28:12
at all.
28:13
He should just like all these lot of
28:15
people that during this, the Kirk era, they
28:20
should just shut up.
28:22
Well, here he is with the actual rules
28:24
and regulations, and then I have a few
28:25
things to read.
28:26
We have a rule on the book that
28:28
interprets a public interest standard that says news
28:30
distortion is something that is prohibited.
28:34
Likewise, we have a rule that addresses broadcast
28:36
hoaxes.
28:37
And so, again, over the years, the FCC
28:39
has stepped back from enforcing it.
28:41
And I don't think it's been to the
28:43
benefit of anybody.
28:43
Just look at the credibility of these legacy
28:45
media.
28:46
It's absolutely through the floor.
28:48
They used to be able to say at
28:49
least they were more trustworthy than Congress, but
28:51
now they're even less trustworthy than Congress.
28:53
And so I think as a business matter
28:55
for them, something has to change.
28:56
And at the FCC, we need to reinvigorate
28:58
this.
28:59
So again, there's actions that we can take
29:01
on licensed broadcasters.
29:02
And frankly, I think that it's really sort
29:04
of past time that a lot of these
29:06
licensed broadcasters themselves push back on Comcast and
29:11
Disney and say, listen, we are going to
29:12
preempt.
29:12
We're not going to run Kimmel anymore until
29:16
you straighten this out, because we, we licensed
29:19
broadcaster are running the possibility of fines or
29:22
license revocation from the FCC if we continue
29:24
to run content that ends up being a
29:27
pattern of news distortion.
29:28
So I think, again, Disney needs to see
29:31
some change here.
29:32
But the individual licensed stations that are taking
29:35
their content, it's time for them to step
29:37
up and say this garbage to the extent
29:41
that that's what comes down the pipe in
29:42
the future isn't something that we think serves
29:44
the needs of our local communities.
29:45
So just so we understand, if the FCC
29:49
can't pull anything away from ABC, NBC, CBS,
29:53
they can only pull away from individual stations.
29:56
And the renewal period is every eight years.
29:59
And it's a real thing.
30:01
It really happens.
30:02
And usually it's like, whatever, just keep on
30:04
going.
30:05
But the citizens who are in the market
30:09
of a, of a transmitter, they are the
30:12
ones who can file complaints.
30:14
And I'm sure they've filed plenty of complaints
30:16
against The View and Kimmel.
30:18
There's a lot of people, particularly our age
30:20
and older, who sit at home going, ah,
30:22
these guys, I'm going to file a complaint
30:24
with the FCC.
30:25
You know that that happens.
30:27
And I'm almost, I'm at the point, if
30:30
I wasn't doing this podcast, I'd be doing
30:31
it.
30:32
Exactly.
30:33
You'd be writing letters to the president.
30:35
On your, on your typewriter.
30:37
No, so this is, it's very valid that
30:41
a lot of these stations who are getting
30:43
their complaints are saying, well, you know, this
30:45
is kind of a problem because I think
30:48
it's in 2028 is when a lot of
30:50
them come up for renewal.
30:51
Like, well, you know, if you look at
30:55
the balance and if you really look at
30:56
the laws, the laws, then, you know, I
31:02
can see where they would be worried.
31:04
And Brendan Carr obviously threw some gasoline on
31:07
the fire.
31:08
Now, there is another very specific, it's a,
31:13
it's in U.S. law, 70, 47 CFR
31:16
73.1217. Now, I certainly defer.
31:19
Oops, sorry, that's not the one.
31:22
It's, he talks about here.
31:24
We have a rule on the book that
31:26
interprets a public interest standard that says news
31:28
distortion is something that is prohibited.
31:32
Likewise, we have a rule that addresses broadcast
31:34
hoaxes.
31:35
And so, again, over the years, the FCC
31:37
has stepped back from enforcing it.
31:39
And I don't think it's been to the
31:40
benefit of anybody.
31:41
Just look at the credibility of these legacy
31:43
media.
31:44
It's absolutely through the floor.
31:46
They used to be able to say at
31:46
least they were more trustworthy than Congress, but
31:49
now they're even less trustworthy than Congress.
31:51
And so I think as a business matter
31:52
for them, something has to change.
31:54
And at the FCC, you know, we need
31:55
to reinvigorate this.
31:56
So, again, there's actions that we can take
31:59
on licensed broadcasters.
32:00
And frankly, I think that it's really sort
32:02
of past time that a lot of these
32:04
licensed broadcasters themselves push back on Comcast and
32:08
Disney and say, listen, we are going to
32:10
preempt.
32:10
We are not going to run Kimmel anymore
32:13
until you straighten this out.
32:15
Did I just play that?
32:16
I think I just played that.
32:17
Yeah, you played it twice in a row.
32:18
OK, so the law is no licensee or
32:25
permittee of any broadcast station shall broadcast false
32:29
information concerning a crime or catastrophe if the
32:33
licensee, this is number one, if the licensee
32:36
knows this information is false.
32:37
Well, that's kind of difficult to prove.
32:39
That is tough.
32:40
That's a tough one to prove.
32:43
If it is foreseeable that broadcasts of the
32:46
information will cause substantial public harm, maybe, maybe
32:49
not.
32:50
Broadcasts of the information does, in fact, directly
32:53
cause substantial public harm.
32:54
This is kind of what they call the
32:55
hoax, the hoax rule.
32:58
So, you know, obviously, no one should say
33:02
anything because we don't know the exact origin.
33:05
They didn't at that time, certainly not know
33:08
anything about this kid.
33:09
But, you know, when you're talking to someone
33:11
who's saying, I'm sorry, my love, and is
33:14
living with a trans person is probably not
33:17
a MAGA, you know, so probably not.
33:21
Probably not.
33:22
And his mom said he wasn't.
33:24
You can make a case that that was
33:26
broadcasting false information, but it comes down to.
33:29
But again, as we pointed out in the
33:31
last show, we had clips that indicated that
33:33
that operation is so filled with liberals and
33:38
siloed people.
33:39
I decided I was thinking about these terms
33:42
silo versus bubble.
33:43
Bubbles pop.
33:44
Silos don't siloed people that all believe something.
33:48
And so I think they were totally sincere.
33:52
And it was definitely wasn't a hoax.
33:54
Well, news distortion is another part of a
33:57
different rule on the books.
33:59
And this is the final question.
34:00
Short.
34:00
Do you believe that what Jimmy Kimmel said
34:03
rises to the level of news distortion?
34:05
Well, again, the FCC could be called upon
34:07
to be an ultimate judge in that.
34:08
But at this point, I think it's clear.
34:12
It appears to be clear that you can
34:15
make a strong argument that this is sort
34:17
of an intentional effort to mislead the American
34:20
people about a very core, fundamental fact, a
34:23
very important matter.
34:24
At the end of the day, if we
34:26
do get called upon to pass a vote
34:28
on this, Disney will have a chance to
34:30
put in their arguments and explain it.
34:32
But this is a very, very serious issue
34:35
right now for Disney.
34:37
Right.
34:38
So serious issue for Disney.
34:39
But he has no power over Disney.
34:41
He only has a decision making over license
34:45
renewal, which would come up in 2028, which
34:48
he probably wouldn't even be there anymore if
34:50
a Democrat president is in the administration, et
34:54
cetera, et cetera.
34:55
So it's all kind of hypothetical.
34:57
Here's Brendan Carr explaining himself on CNBC, where
35:01
all truth comes out.
35:03
Was this before or after the podcast?
35:06
This is after the podcast.
35:08
Yeah, this was, in fact, Thursday.
35:10
Now, I certainly defer to the decision making
35:12
of the company itself in terms of saying
35:14
this was beyond the bounds.
35:16
But I do wonder, and I think many
35:18
people do, whether you really are just targeting
35:19
comedians who typically through the years have made
35:24
fun of political figures in a way that
35:26
because the president simply is offended by it.
35:30
No, no, no.
35:30
Look, again, broadcast TV is different.
35:33
We're on a cable show right now.
35:34
You don't have an FCC license.
35:36
You don't have an obligation to serve the
35:38
public interest.
35:39
Podcasts don't either.
35:41
Stand-up comedians, whether they're on lots of
35:43
forms of communications, don't.
35:44
And Kimmel is free to do that.
35:46
But if you have a broadcast TV license,
35:48
that means that you have something that very
35:51
few people have, and you're excluding other people
35:53
from having access to that valuable public resource.
35:56
And it comes with an obligation to serve
35:58
the public interest.
35:59
And again, over the years, there's been a
36:01
rule in place at the FCC that local
36:03
TV stations get to preempt programming that they
36:06
don't think meets the needs of their communities.
36:08
But recently, these national programmers, ABC, Disney, Comcast,
36:12
NBC, they've been exercising outsized control and power
36:17
over those local TV stations, and there's been
36:19
no pushback.
36:20
And this is a very significant moment because
36:22
local broadcasters are now pushing back on national
36:26
programmers for the first time that I can
36:28
think of in modern history.
36:29
And that's one thing we want at the
36:30
FCC.
36:31
We want to empower local broadcasters that have
36:34
the public interest obligation to push back on
36:37
national programmers so that people have more choice.
36:40
Now, this was interesting to me because, do
36:44
you know anything about that relationship?
36:47
Are these local broadcast stations, are they slaves
36:51
of the networks?
36:52
Do they have their hands on their nuts,
36:55
so to speak?
37:00
Are they slaves to the networks?
37:03
I think to some extent they are.
37:05
Because we had a situation in the Bay
37:07
Area where one of our stations, KRON, which
37:09
was the NBC affiliate, was replaced by a
37:16
station that I think at the time was
37:19
in Sacramento and they moved to San Jose,
37:21
KNTV.
37:22
And it had to do with, you know,
37:24
all of a sudden the network wanted to
37:26
charge more money.
37:28
Yeah, well, there it is.
37:30
It comes down to money.
37:32
There's a money issue.
37:33
By the way, one thing that's not mentioned
37:37
here and it should be mentioned is the
37:38
Disney thing is a little more complicated than
37:41
what's being presented because there's also a deal
37:45
that is going to have to be approved
37:47
by the Trump administration at some point in
37:51
time coming up.
37:53
What is the Disney deal?
37:56
The Disney deal, Disney's trying to buy via
37:59
ESPN, they're trying to buy NFL networks.
38:02
Oh, well, what is, oh, that would be
38:05
an anti-competitive trade commission?
38:07
Yes, because it brings the NFL, you know,
38:10
more NFL games over to ESPN and this
38:13
is a big deal.
38:15
No one talks about that one.
38:17
But it's talked about in sports circles.
38:19
Okay, as far as I'm concerned, no one
38:22
talks about that one.
38:24
They do talk about it.
38:25
It's been talked about.
38:26
No, I know, but because it's sports.
38:28
Hello.
38:31
But let's follow the money.
38:32
I think these affiliates have been asking for
38:35
probably since the writers, probably since the writers
38:39
strike, they've been saying, hey, ABC, can you
38:43
take this guy off?
38:45
We could do reruns of Hogan's Heroes and
38:48
make a lot more profit.
38:49
Just to back you up on that, if
38:52
you had looked at the newsletter.
38:54
I did.
38:54
I did when it came out, when it
38:56
came out.
38:57
Sorry.
38:58
If it came out, if you got one,
39:01
there is a chart in there showing the
39:04
unbelievable fall off of the audiences for these
39:08
late night shows.
39:09
It is so bad.
39:11
How bad is it?
39:12
It's bad.
39:14
They've dropped, I'd say 90% of their
39:18
audience has been lost.
39:19
And Kimmel was losing 40.
39:21
I mean, they say that Colbert, which was
39:24
over staff, was losing 100 million a year.
39:26
Kimmel was losing 40, 40 million a year
39:30
just down the drain.
39:31
And the audience is not showing any signs
39:33
of recovery.
39:34
All three networks.
39:35
And there you have it.
39:36
The bottom line is that Disney didn't want
39:40
the backlash.
39:41
They didn't want, you know, just want to
39:43
get rid of Kimmel.
39:44
I'm sure NBC wants to get rid of
39:46
Fallon because of this very issue.
39:49
It's not prestige anymore.
39:50
You're right about Hogan's Heroes, by the way.
39:52
Yeah.
39:53
Well, it's very cheap content.
39:54
Hogan's Heroes reruns would get more audience than
39:56
Kimmel.
39:56
It's cheap content.
39:57
It's cheap content.
39:58
You could put friends there.
39:59
And it's cheap.
40:00
It's free.
40:01
Yeah.
40:01
So this is a money issue.
40:03
They've been probably saying this for a long
40:04
time.
40:05
And oh, by the way, our audience gets
40:07
mad.
40:07
And that's why they're not watching anymore because
40:09
your guy is just making fun of their
40:12
guy.
40:12
This has been a money issue.
40:14
And Brendan Carr empowered them, particularly Nexstar.
40:18
And what's the other outfit who used to
40:20
be headquartered here in Austin?
40:24
Well, I know the other one that was
40:25
upset was Sinclair.
40:27
Sinclair.
40:27
But I don't think they were in Austin.
40:28
Yeah, they were not.
40:28
They weren't in Austin, were they?
40:29
Their headquarter is in Austin.
40:32
Sinclair Broadcasting?
40:33
Yeah, it was.
40:34
Ron Blum and I went there.
40:36
No, Ron Blum and I went there.
40:38
We pitched them on something a long time
40:40
ago.
40:40
And it was, huh.
40:41
Yeah.
40:41
Well, that's news to me.
40:43
Well, and we talked with a muckety-muck.
40:46
A muckety-muck.
40:47
Yes, a muckety-muck.
40:49
A true muckety-muck.
40:50
So the only guy who, of course, in
40:55
a way, well, he waffles a bit at
40:57
the end.
40:58
But Rand Paul talked to Christian Welker from
41:00
NBC, and he just called it straight up
41:02
as it is.
41:03
Do you want to ask you, broadly speaking,
41:05
about free speech?
41:06
Free speech!
41:07
Freedom of speech.
41:09
I want to play something that President Trump
41:11
promised during his inaugural address, followed by comments
41:15
that he made just this week.
41:17
By the way, I forgot to harp on
41:19
the president for this comment during his inaugural
41:21
speech.
41:22
Take a look.
41:23
I will also sign an executive order to
41:26
immediately stop all government censorship and bring back
41:30
free speech.
41:32
Freedom of speech.
41:33
To America.
41:34
When somebody is given 97% of the
41:38
stories are bad about a person, that's no
41:40
longer free speech, that's no longer, that's just
41:43
cheating.
41:45
Senator, do you believe that President Trump is
41:47
sending the message that he only supports free
41:50
speech when it's speech that he agrees with?
41:54
Well, this is why it's kind of rich
41:56
for Governor Shapiro also to come on and
41:58
be outraged by censorship.
42:00
Was he asleep for the four years of
42:02
the Biden administration when they did have censorship?
42:05
The FBI, Department of Homeland Security were sent
42:08
to the offices of Twitter.
42:10
They were sent to the offices of Facebook.
42:12
Facebook was told to take down information concerning
42:15
the origins of the COVID virus, or they
42:18
were being threatened with remove their liability protection,
42:21
or being threatened with being broken up by
42:23
antitrust.
42:24
So we have had official censorship going on
42:27
for many years now, and everybody on the
42:29
left just looked the other way.
42:30
They actually had an office, an office of
42:32
censorship.
42:33
So I applaud Trump for bringing that down.
42:36
Now, saying we're going after the FCC licenses
42:38
is wrong and inconsistent with that.
42:41
I applaud Trump for getting rid of the
42:42
censorship office in our government, but I think
42:46
people should discontinue this idea of policing hate
42:49
speech or sending the FCC after networks.
42:52
Yeah, both of those are in his crosshairs,
42:55
and rightly so, because they're morons.
42:57
Brendan Carr is dumb, and Palm Bandy may
43:01
be even dumber.
43:02
The thing that's amazing, though, is that where
43:06
ABC thought, wow, this is great.
43:09
We can dodge the bullet of getting rid
43:11
of Kimmel because, oh, the only young people
43:15
we have are the ones watching.
43:17
What is it, the 0.7 rating, I
43:21
think?
43:21
It's almost nothing.
43:22
More people listen.
43:23
In the demographic, 18 to 49, more people
43:27
listen to the No Agenda show.
43:28
It's really that bad.
43:31
It is that bad.
43:32
But what's happened is, because of the hatred
43:34
towards Trump from the, I guess, your typical
43:37
ABC late-night viewer, they've gotten the ire
43:41
of all of their fans, and not just
43:45
people who like Kimmel, but Disney fans.
43:48
Disney fans.
43:50
I'm sure you know some Disney fans.
43:53
These are people who do pilgrimages, or big
43:57
buses.
43:58
They love Disney.
43:59
Anything that's Disney, they'll watch every movie.
44:01
Can I tell you something?
44:03
Yeah.
44:04
No.
44:05
Oh, I know a lot of people like
44:06
that.
44:07
I do not know one person like that.
44:10
Well, that's interesting.
44:13
I know a lot of people like that.
44:15
Obviously, there's a lot of diehard Disney fans,
44:17
and they are revolting.
44:19
Not as in they're kind of revolting, too,
44:21
but they are revolting.
44:22
They have to be revolting.
44:23
They're revolting against ABC.
44:25
Here's an example of some TikTok dude.
44:30
Okay, everybody.
44:31
So, as of today, I canceled my Hulu,
44:34
my Disney+, my Paramount.
44:37
I never had ESPN.
44:38
I would have canceled it anyway.
44:39
I cut up my Disney credit card.
44:42
My Disney annual pass to the park has
44:44
expired.
44:44
I was thinking of renewing it.
44:47
I will not be renewing it.
44:49
I refuse to stand on any Disney property.
44:51
I refuse to eat at any Disney establishment.
44:54
That is my little way of protesting my
44:57
right to the First Amendment.
44:59
What they're doing now, becoming state-run media,
45:03
is getting rid of everyone that disagrees with
45:05
the current administration.
45:07
And that, I have to draw the line.
45:08
I mean, there are other things, but this,
45:12
my right to say whatever I want to
45:14
say, being taken away?
45:15
No.
45:16
What I can watch, what I can't watch?
45:17
No.
45:18
That doesn't flow with me.
45:19
So, the only way to get back at
45:21
them, it's got to get back at Disney.
45:23
Got to get back at ABC because they
45:26
cowered to a bully.
45:27
So, they basically told them to get rid
45:30
of these people.
45:32
Stephen Colbert was first.
45:33
Jimmy Kimmel was second.
45:34
They will go after more.
45:36
Also, daytime.
45:37
State-run media.
45:38
This is the beginning.
45:39
It's happening now.
45:41
It's happened before.
45:42
North Korea, China, Russia.
45:45
State-run media, as of today.
45:48
1930s, 1940s.
45:50
Nazi Germany.
45:51
Hitler became chancellor.
45:52
First thing he did, went after radio, went
45:55
after the print, the newspapers.
45:57
State-run media.
45:58
Told the people what they can watch, what
45:59
they can't watch.
46:01
Sorry.
46:02
The only way to make them feel it,
46:04
in the pocketbook, I canceled it all.
46:08
You know, what this brings to mind is
46:13
something that you and Mo discussed some years
46:16
ago about the idea that we're not going
46:21
to hire people anything like this because the
46:24
long-term effects are so negative.
46:28
This was some time ago when you talked
46:30
about don't hire a black person because it's
46:32
going to be trouble down the road.
46:36
This is the price you're going to have
46:40
to pay if you're going to hire liberals
46:42
at the level of Jimmy Kimmel.
46:45
Because now they're paying the price.
46:48
And they're going to pay the price for
46:50
when they get rid of The View.
46:52
They should have not had the shows on
46:54
in the first place is what's going to
46:55
be the rationale for never hiring anybody like
46:58
that again.
46:59
This is not the way to go about
47:01
this.
47:02
And it's worse because now big stars, big
47:06
stars.
47:08
Actually, Cynthia Nixon, you know, sex in the
47:12
city, sure.
47:13
But she's in Gilded Age, a runaway hit
47:17
series.
47:18
And here's her little 30-second bit.
47:21
Hey, I just canceled my Disney Plus and
47:24
Hulu subscriptions.
47:25
And they asked me why I hit other.
47:28
And I wrote, because I believe in the
47:30
First Amendment, reinstate Jimmy Kimmel.
47:32
Now, my whole family is really going to
47:35
miss Abbott Elementary.
47:36
We are really going to miss only murders
47:39
in the building.
47:40
But you know what?
47:41
We would miss the First Amendment a whole
47:43
lot more.
47:44
Don't go to the theme parks.
47:46
Don't go on the cruises.
47:47
Cancel your subscriptions now.
47:50
Yeah, this is they are definitely paying the
47:53
price.
47:54
But they're paying the price.
47:55
If they hadn't had Kimmel in the first
47:56
place, this wouldn't happen.
47:57
That's the irony.
47:59
Now, since we're talking about First Amendment stuff,
48:02
I do have one clip.
48:03
One more in my sequence here.
48:05
The last one, which relates to the woke
48:07
guy talking about this is what Stalin did.
48:10
This is what Hitler did.
48:12
This is state-run, state-controlled media.
48:14
You want to hear about state-controlled media,
48:16
woke boy?
48:17
This is my new friend, Katie Hopkins.
48:21
Remember, I met her.
48:22
Katie Hopkins was here in Fredericksburg.
48:24
She's your pal now.
48:24
She's my buddy now, yes.
48:26
And she was right down the road doing
48:30
an interview with Laura Logan, going rogue with
48:32
Laura Logan.
48:33
And listen to this.
48:35
But my comedy shows do.
48:37
They allow people to laugh at the things
48:39
you're not allowed to say because I can
48:41
just about get away with saying them now
48:43
in the guise of comedy.
48:45
And it's a fine line.
48:48
I was arrested and interviewed under caution.
48:51
I haven't spoken about this yet.
48:53
About three weeks ago.
48:55
And I'm waiting to be charged for the
48:58
crime of online communications, crime of speech for
49:03
my Katie's.
49:04
I do a pub night online called the
49:05
Katie's Arms.
49:06
I love the Katie's Arms.
49:08
So I've been arrested for that.
49:10
I see.
49:11
Because of what I said on my Katie's
49:13
Arms pub.
49:14
So that's her live stream where she drinks
49:18
wine.
49:19
You ever seen it?
49:21
No.
49:22
It's just her in her apartment.
49:24
She's drinking wine.
49:25
She's making snide remarks.
49:27
Yeah.
49:28
And they arrested her for something she said
49:30
that that's Hitler.
49:33
That's the stuff you're talking about.
49:34
Exactly.
49:35
And that's what's going on in the UK
49:36
right now.
49:37
I mean, when Linham was arrested, he's not
49:40
even a UK citizen that I think he's
49:43
Irish or he might be Scott.
49:45
But whatever the case is, he comes into
49:48
Heathrow, I think.
49:49
I said it on the show a couple
49:50
of shows last show or the show before
49:52
that.
49:52
I think Americans that do a lot of
49:55
tweeting and could possibly just be picked up
49:58
when they show up at Heathrow.
50:00
Oh, well, it's funny you bring that up
50:02
because I have a clip of an American.
50:05
Now, she's not at Heathrow.
50:07
She already is living in the UK.
50:11
And this is, you know, the GB News
50:13
is making a big deal of this.
50:14
She's she's a member of something called the
50:16
Free Speech Union, which is probably strike one.
50:18
Here she is as a cop comes to
50:21
her house.
50:22
I'm a member of the Free Speech Union
50:23
and I'm an American citizen.
50:25
Something that we believe you've written on Facebook
50:28
has upset someone.
50:29
You're here because somebody got upset.
50:31
Is it against the law?
50:32
Am I being arrested?
50:34
You're not being arrested.
50:35
Then what are you doing here?
50:36
My plan was if you were admitting that
50:39
it was you who wrote the comment, you
50:40
could just make an apology to the person.
50:42
I'm not apologizing to anybody.
50:44
I can tell you that.
50:45
The alternative would be that I have to
50:46
call you for an interview.
50:47
I'm here to talk to you about the
50:49
allegation.
50:50
They've reported it to the police.
50:51
So what?
50:51
Obviously, we get a lot of reports like
50:53
that.
50:53
Are there no houses that have been burgled
50:55
recently?
50:55
No rapes, no murders?
50:57
Yeah, that's all going on as well.
50:58
Well, then why aren't you out there doing,
51:00
you know, investigating those?
51:01
Because I've got to investigate everything that gets
51:03
reported.
51:04
Well, you're not investigating houses being burgled.
51:06
No, that's not my job today.
51:08
Would you like to have a look at
51:08
the comment that I made?
51:09
I don't need to.
51:10
I know exactly the things I've said.
51:12
So the cop shows up at her house
51:14
to talk to her about what she posted.
51:17
And if she just goes along with him
51:19
and apologizes to the person she offended, then
51:22
the problem goes away.
51:23
Otherwise, you have to come downtown.
51:25
We have to interview you.
51:27
By the way, didn't she sound a bit
51:29
like Mimi?
51:31
No, not to me.
51:33
No.
51:34
To me.
51:35
She sounded very nervous and pissed.
51:38
Well, no.
51:38
Which does sound a little like Mimi.
51:40
Well, no.
51:41
She's like, I know exactly what I said.
51:43
You know, I'm not apologizing to anybody.
51:44
I could see Mimi saying that.
51:46
Well, there's that.
51:46
Yeah, well, that would definitely be the wordage
51:48
would be similar.
51:51
So, you know, it's like, come on.
51:54
But anyway, you wanted to go to a
51:56
clip.
51:56
Yeah, I want to get this.
51:57
We're talking about free speech.
51:58
Freedom of speech.
51:59
I'm not going to allow it to say
52:01
free speech.
52:01
I don't know why freedom of speech as
52:03
opposed to free speech is so important to
52:05
you.
52:05
Because one of these days they're going to
52:07
write some legislation that's going to be free
52:09
speech and it'll be something different than the
52:11
First Amendment.
52:12
This happens all the time.
52:15
Now it's different now.
52:17
Hate speech, like hate speech, that that's just
52:20
hate of speech.
52:22
Hate, hate, hate speech kind of just crept
52:25
in all of a sudden.
52:26
And then we have our attorney general talking
52:28
about it.
52:28
So, no, it's freedom.
52:30
To me, it's it's awkward structure to say
52:35
freedom of speech when you mean free speech.
52:37
I don't mean that.
52:38
Free speech is this podcast.
52:40
This is free.
52:41
Free speech.
52:41
OK, well, that's what I'm talking about.
52:42
Free speech.
52:43
OK, free speech.
52:44
So yeah.
52:47
So we had discussed Harvey Levin trying to
52:50
get out of the fact that his his
52:52
audience cheered.
52:53
Yes.
52:55
No, not his audience, his staff.
52:56
I'm not his audience, his staff.
52:58
His entire staff cheered when Charlie Kirk was
53:00
killed and he came on sheepishly saying, well,
53:04
nobody like that.
53:05
They weren't sharing about that.
53:07
Nobody would be working here if they were
53:09
that way, blah, blah, blah.
53:12
And I've gotten plenty of evidence.
53:14
I've seen him go on and off on
53:15
Trump all the time.
53:17
So listen to now.
53:18
So they bring up the Kimmel thing on
53:20
the show and tell me that this guy
53:22
didn't just hire people that hated.
53:25
I mean, they're just you can tell that
53:28
this whole operation is staffed by these types
53:31
of people.
53:32
They're all a bunch of liberals to an
53:34
extreme.
53:34
Just listen to Harvey in the background during
53:36
this teaser.
53:37
This is the beginning of a segment on
53:39
on Kimmel and Harvey going as they're talking
53:43
about free speech there.
53:45
He keeps saying R.I.P. R.I
53:48
.P. Listen to this.
53:50
It is a new day in America, a
53:53
day where it feels like more than ever
53:56
free speech and the First Amendment.
53:59
R.I.P. R.I.P. Some people
54:01
are saying R.I.P. to the First
54:04
Amendment after Jimmy Kimmel was officially suspended, but
54:08
suspended indefinitely by ABC.
54:12
Well, that's interesting.
54:14
I thought that was a bit much and
54:17
he was beside himself.
54:18
R.I.P. R.I.P. And they
54:20
did a teaser with R.I.P. R
54:22
.I.P. So like he's going to be
54:24
censored.
54:25
Maybe he could get fired because he's a
54:27
douche.
54:28
Of course not.
54:28
He's a Jew.
54:29
The Jews run the media.
54:30
No way.
54:31
It's never going to happen.
54:32
He has nothing to worry about.
54:33
R.I.P. R.I.P. Brother.
54:39
Yes, his problem is he's a douche.
54:42
And well, you don't actually watch TMZ.
54:44
You just picked up that clip somewhere.
54:46
I'm sure you don't watch it.
54:48
I occasionally watch it because I think it's
54:51
I like the structure of the show.
54:53
I find it fascinating that Harvey, who is
54:56
very petite male, a lot of people you
54:58
don't realize it because he's a petite male.
55:01
He is a petite male, really.
55:04
And compared, I mean, he usually is behind
55:07
like a fence or behind a barrier.
55:09
And he's kind of leaning over drinking a
55:12
soda.
55:14
But when he comes out and stands amongst
55:17
the others, he is the petite.
55:18
He's a petite male.
55:20
He works out a little bit.
55:22
But I would like to see him next
55:23
to Greg Gutfeld.
55:24
And I wonder which one of the two
55:26
is shorter.
55:26
Well, you know, small people with big heads
55:30
are very successful on television.
55:32
That's the rule.
55:33
I'm going to lead you into your clips
55:34
with a 40 second setup.
55:36
The Pentagon will now require credentialed journalists to
55:39
sign a pledge to refrain from reporting on
55:41
stories that have not been authorized for release,
55:44
including unclassified information.
55:46
The newly named Department of War detailed in
55:49
a 17 page memo that journalists who do
55:51
not abide by the new policy will risk
55:54
losing their access.
55:55
The new restrictions come as the Trump administration
55:58
beefs up its attacks on the media landscape.
56:01
Defense Secretary Pete Hexeth stated that reporters will
56:04
also no longer be allowed to freely roam
56:07
the halls, adding that they must either follow
56:09
the rules or go home.
56:11
U.S. journalists have denounced the new measures
56:13
as unconstitutional, calling them an attack on the
56:16
First Amendment, which guarantees freedom of the press.
56:20
So the press somehow believes that freedom of
56:22
the press, which, by the way, that no
56:25
one calls it free press.
56:26
You'll notice.
56:28
OK, Barry Weiss.
56:30
Yep.
56:31
Freedom of the press has nothing to do
56:33
with where you walk or what you what
56:36
you can grab.
56:36
It has to do with what you can
56:37
say.
56:38
You can roam the halls of the Pentagon,
56:40
barging into whatever office you want.
56:43
Well, clearly, that's what they think, as according
56:45
to Euronews.
56:46
That's what they're all up in arms because
56:48
we can't walk a walk around the halls.
56:50
That's we have freedom of the press, man.
56:52
Free press.
56:53
Free press.
56:55
Free press is what my Chinese laundry does.
57:01
Pentagon clamped.
57:02
And this is from NPR.
57:03
It's only two clips, but there they summarize
57:05
it, I think.
57:06
Press Corps that covers it.
57:08
There are some new rules to follow.
57:10
That is, if they want to keep their
57:11
official credentials that allow them to report from
57:14
inside the building.
57:15
It is worth noting the move came at
57:17
the end of a week where the Trump
57:18
administration took aim at First Amendment rights on
57:20
several fronts.
57:21
President Trump tried to sue The New York
57:23
Times.
57:24
ABC took late night host Jimmy Kimmel off
57:26
the airwaves after the chairman of the FCC
57:28
threatened the network stations unless they acted against
57:31
the longtime Trump critic.
57:33
Trump also warned that broadcasters who air the
57:36
voices of critics like Kimmel should lose their
57:38
licenses.
57:39
Joining us to explain what this what I
57:42
know.
57:43
This is so slanted.
57:44
We just played the actual clip of what
57:47
he said.
57:47
There was none of that.
57:49
Like, yeah, I know.
57:50
This is great.
57:51
Trump also warned that broadcasters who air the
57:54
voices of critics like Kimmel should lose their
57:56
licenses.
57:57
Joining us to explain what this latest move
58:00
at the Pentagon means for reporters and for
58:02
the rest of us is NPR media correspondent
58:04
David Fulkenflik.
58:05
Hi, David.
58:06
Hey, Scott.
58:07
Tell us what exactly the new rule is.
58:09
Well, you know, Pete Hegseth came in as
58:11
a Pentagon chief.
58:12
He's a former Fox and Friends weekend host,
58:16
and he promised that it would be the
58:17
most transparent Pentagon in history.
58:18
Instead, they've had very few press briefings.
58:21
And now and they threw out, by the
58:22
way, a number of media organizations from their
58:24
slots at the Pentagon, including NPR and The
58:27
Watch Post, The New York Times.
58:28
And now they're saying that reporters who want
58:31
to report from inside the building have to
58:33
pledge never to divulge or even gather any
58:37
information that the Pentagon hasn't authorized for release.
58:40
And that's including unclassified information.
58:43
I mean, that just doesn't sound like reporting.
58:45
It doesn't sound like reporting.
58:46
It doesn't sound like the kind of reporters
58:48
you and I know.
58:49
I mean, these are people who often have
58:50
done this for many years.
58:51
Many of them have, you know, covered military
58:53
conflict and wars in faraway zones and have
58:56
gotten to know military personnel from the grunts
58:58
to the multi-star generals and commanders and,
59:03
you know, have gone through corridors and hallways,
59:05
knocked on doors, not only to get scoops,
59:07
but just to get expertise and understanding of
59:10
the kinds of stories they're trying to bring
59:12
to the American public and to the military
59:14
personnel themselves.
59:15
How are the news organizations that cover the
59:18
Pentagon responding to this?
59:19
Now, let me just say something to these
59:22
hoity-toities here for a second.
59:24
I would be on board with what you're
59:25
saying if for the past 15 years, maybe
59:30
even for the entire length of our free
59:33
speech podcast, we hadn't been inundated with complete
59:38
non-journalistic reports of sources say, I went
59:43
to college for three months.
59:45
For communications.
59:48
And what I learned right off the bat
59:51
from Vanita Zinn, who was my professor, you
59:54
need to have two sources on the record
59:57
to report something.
59:58
On the record.
59:59
We haven't heard an on the record in
1:00:01
over a decade.
1:00:04
So, you're not, you know.
1:00:05
Try two decades.
1:00:06
Try two decades.
1:00:07
Yeah, possibly right.
1:00:08
So, well, this was also 1985, I think.
1:00:11
No.
1:00:12
Try four decades.
1:00:13
Whatever.
1:00:15
So, get out of here with your, well,
1:00:18
you know, this is not how reporters operate.
1:00:19
Yeah, that's exactly how reporters operate.
1:00:21
You take leaks from all kinds of people
1:00:23
with agendas from inside the building, which is
1:00:25
the problem, of course.
1:00:29
And, you know, we don't want you doing
1:00:30
that anymore.
1:00:31
Yeah.
1:00:33
Okay.
1:00:34
Fine.
1:00:35
I just look at the sales numbers.
1:00:37
How are we doing?
1:00:38
Do we sell any stuff to Ukraine?
1:00:39
That's good to go.
1:00:41
I think that's about right.
1:00:43
But, yes, I think all that is correct.
1:00:46
And they've kind of, they've gotten lazy.
1:00:50
Well, you know, what they could have done,
1:00:52
because of the internet.
1:00:54
Yes, you're right.
1:00:55
Lazy is the word.
1:00:56
It used to be, according to the Uganda
1:00:59
Times.
1:01:00
Now, those are the good old days when
1:01:02
you had.
1:01:02
Yeah, that's when the CIA could plan a
1:01:04
story in the Uganda Times and they just
1:01:06
pick it up.
1:01:06
They don't even do that anymore.
1:01:08
That's the way you're supposed to do it.
1:01:08
They don't even do that anymore.
1:01:10
Circular reporting.
1:01:11
No, they're too lazy.
1:01:12
You're right.
1:01:13
I haven't seen a report from the Uganda
1:01:15
Times forever.
1:01:16
It's hopping.
1:01:17
I'm telling you, the Uganda Times.
1:01:18
Is there an actual Uganda Times?
1:01:20
I think there is a Uganda Times.
1:01:22
There probably is.
1:01:23
Okay, let's go to the finish this up.
1:01:25
Scott, I think it's very striking that none
1:01:28
of the TV networks that I've reached out
1:01:30
to, including Fox News itself, CBS, NBC, CNN
1:01:36
have said anything publicly, issued any public statements.
1:01:39
Our new editor-in-chief, Tommy Evans, as
1:01:42
well as Matt Murray, the executive editor of
1:01:44
the Washington Post, and the New York Times
1:01:46
corporately have released strong statements saying that this
1:01:48
goes against First Amendment principles.
1:01:50
There's something called prior restraint.
1:01:52
That is that the government preventing the press
1:01:54
or broadcasters from reporting the news before it's
1:01:57
actually reported.
1:01:58
That was taken more than 50 years ago
1:02:00
to the Supreme Court, which upheld the idea
1:02:02
that the government cannot do that in a
1:02:04
Pentagon Papers case involving the Nixon administration.
1:02:07
I mean, this makes it harder for us
1:02:09
reporters.
1:02:10
Hold on.
1:02:12
This is a conflation of prior restraint means
1:02:15
you can't stop the paper from printing a
1:02:17
story.
1:02:18
Right.
1:02:18
That's ready to go to the press.
1:02:20
It's got nothing to do with walking into
1:02:22
offices, knocking on doors, and then shooting the
1:02:26
shit with some guy who's bored stiff at
1:02:29
his desk.
1:02:30
I mean, come on.
1:02:31
By the way, there is most definitely a
1:02:33
Uganda Times.
1:02:35
Yeah, it's the Times everywhere.
1:02:36
Yeah.
1:02:37
Reporting the news before it's actually reported.
1:02:40
That was taken more than 50 years ago
1:02:42
to the Supreme Court, which upheld the idea
1:02:44
that the government cannot do that in a
1:02:46
Pentagon Papers case involving the Nixon administration.
1:02:49
I mean, this makes it harder for us,
1:02:50
the reporters who cover Washington to do our
1:02:52
jobs.
1:02:53
David, why do you think people who read
1:02:55
the news, who listen to the news, who
1:02:56
watch the news or just see it scroll
1:02:57
by on their social media feed should care
1:02:59
about this development?
1:03:00
Well, reporters are trying to give the American
1:03:03
people an accurate understanding of what our military
1:03:05
is doing, how our military are treated, and
1:03:09
what's being done with their taxpayer dollars.
1:03:12
Take the attacks by the Trump administration and
1:03:15
Defense Department against what they've characterized as Venezuelan
1:03:19
drug boats.
1:03:20
There's been some question about that.
1:03:22
And there have been some lawmakers in Capitol
1:03:23
Hill, both parties, who've raised questions about the
1:03:26
legality of that.
1:03:27
You know, clearly, Hegseth would like to control
1:03:29
what kind of information gets out about that
1:03:32
now contentious things.
1:03:34
The idea of the strikes on nuclear sites
1:03:36
in Iran, you know, the military told us
1:03:38
they were incredibly successful.
1:03:40
In subsequent days and weeks, we heard maybe
1:03:42
not so much.
1:03:43
Again, the question is, what kinds of information
1:03:45
is the American people getting?
1:03:47
I don't think the Pentagon gets to decide
1:03:49
what we learn about the Pentagon.
1:03:52
Wait a minute.
1:03:54
So in other words, the shooting of the
1:03:57
drug boats, for example, to understand how that
1:04:01
works, we have to have a guy roaming
1:04:02
the halls in the Pentagon, just going randomly
1:04:05
from door to door.
1:04:06
Are you kidding me?
1:04:06
Yeah, I need freedom of the press.
1:04:09
The Uganda Times is owned by the government
1:04:11
of Uganda.
1:04:14
Here.
1:04:16
I'm glad you took a deep dive into
1:04:18
the Uganda Times for some unknown reason, out
1:04:21
of the blue in the middle of the
1:04:22
show.
1:04:23
Well, it's interesting that 26% is owned
1:04:25
by the Ministry of State for Finance.
1:04:28
26% owned by the Ministry of Finance,
1:04:31
Planning, and Economic Development.
1:04:32
19% the National Social Security Fund.
1:04:36
This is, they have it split up.
1:04:37
A different minister.
1:04:39
Everyone gets to put their two bits.
1:04:41
Yes.
1:04:42
Yes, that's probably the way to go.
1:04:44
Yeah, that's your state media.
1:04:46
For a state run.
1:04:47
Yeah.
1:04:47
We don't have that here.
1:04:48
Not yet.
1:04:49
Not yet.
1:04:49
New York Times is like owned by Saudis
1:04:52
and Mexicans.
1:04:53
I mean, come on.
1:04:54
Yeah, exactly.
1:04:55
By the way, the Netherlands is on fire.
1:05:02
People have finally had it.
1:05:05
With the...
1:05:06
Yeah, sure.
1:05:07
With the, well, it's interesting.
1:05:08
With the asylum seekers.
1:05:10
You got clips?
1:05:11
It's all in Dutch, so no.
1:05:13
There's a lot of fireworks and yelling and
1:05:16
fighting and setting stuff on fire.
1:05:19
But what's interesting is the main protesters who
1:05:22
went to The Hague, where the government is,
1:05:25
there's this big open field called Malieveld.
1:05:30
And that's where you do your demonstration.
1:05:33
You know, that's the place to go.
1:05:34
So you get thousands and thousands of people.
1:05:36
The majority of them, who were all dressed
1:05:39
in black with their skull masks, football supporters
1:05:46
of different teams, sometimes even rivals.
1:05:49
They banded together to say that they are
1:05:53
sick of it.
1:05:54
They've had enough.
1:05:55
They fought the cops.
1:05:56
They set stuff on fire.
1:05:57
It's kicking off.
1:06:01
We'll see.
1:06:02
Well, yes.
1:06:03
I mean, take my bike.
1:06:04
Exactly.
1:06:05
Take my bike.
1:06:08
Where's my bike, man?
1:06:09
I forgot.
1:06:10
Yes, I got it.
1:06:12
That's my theme.
1:06:13
I don't know.
1:06:13
You picked it up.
1:06:14
You stole it.
1:06:15
I did not.
1:06:16
It's my theme.
1:06:18
Where's my bike has always been my theme.
1:06:22
Oh, people go back and catch some clips
1:06:25
of me bitching about the bikes.
1:06:27
OK, all right.
1:06:28
I'll give it to you.
1:06:28
Hey, just a little aside here.
1:06:30
Yeah.
1:06:31
I think you'll be interested in this.
1:06:34
This is right up your alley.
1:06:36
OK.
1:06:37
We're going to the moon.
1:06:40
As early as next spring, NASA hopes to
1:06:43
send astronauts back to the moon.
1:06:45
Oh, we can't wait for this.
1:06:47
To orbit the moon, at least.
1:06:50
OK, hold on a second before we play
1:06:52
these clips.
1:06:53
The more the more of these that come
1:06:55
out, the more I'm starting to take your
1:06:58
side on the original.
1:06:59
Only I've got I'm now wondering, you had
1:07:02
this thing you used to do to soft
1:07:04
pedal yard.
1:07:05
Well, we never went to the moon, which
1:07:06
is not an unusual commentary.
1:07:08
We had a famous pharmacist in the area
1:07:11
that was a big advocate of this.
1:07:13
But I think your original thesis was we
1:07:16
never went to the moon, but we went
1:07:18
later.
1:07:20
To the later, because they went seven times
1:07:22
or someone looked that up and get some
1:07:24
clips.
1:07:26
I think I think that could be documented
1:07:28
and and I would be I'm beginning to
1:07:33
think that we maybe never went.
1:07:35
We didn't ever.
1:07:36
We didn't.
1:07:37
You not even for the later.
1:07:38
No, the whole thing.
1:07:39
Even Elon Musk.
1:07:40
Even Elon Musk says that he would have
1:07:43
to refuel.
1:07:44
They don't.
1:07:46
The whole thing is a big, massive hoax.
1:07:49
And now even the scientists at NASA who
1:07:52
are so young, they don't remember.
1:07:54
OK, here's what besides losing the tapes and
1:07:57
all the rest of it.
1:07:58
But here's what bothers me about these two
1:07:59
clips that I have is why are we
1:08:03
doing what they're going to describe?
1:08:05
What do we need any of this for
1:08:07
the way they're describing it?
1:08:08
Listen to this clip.
1:08:10
As early as next spring, NASA hopes to
1:08:12
send astronauts back to the moon to orbit
1:08:15
the moon, at least the next step in
1:08:17
a long plan to return to lunar landings
1:08:19
and eventually to set foot on Mars.
1:08:22
Commander Reid Wiseman and the rest of the
1:08:24
crew of Artemis two have been training for
1:08:26
years.
1:08:27
When we leave planet Earth, we're zero miles
1:08:29
an hour.
1:08:29
And then when we come back in the
1:08:30
atmosphere, we're doing 39 times the speed of
1:08:32
sound.
1:08:32
We profiled the Artemis two astronauts on the
1:08:34
show about a year ago.
1:08:36
But on a mission like theirs, the people
1:08:38
in space are just one part of a
1:08:40
massive operation.
1:08:41
In fact, right now, NASA is recruiting volunteers
1:08:44
here on Earth to help track the spacecraft
1:08:46
as it makes its way to the moon
1:08:48
and back.
1:08:49
Oh, wait, bring in some ham radio operators.
1:08:51
Volunteers like Scott Chapman helped NASA keep tabs
1:08:54
on the automated uncrewed Artemis one mission in
1:08:57
2022.
1:08:58
After the spacecraft was no longer in sight,
1:09:01
I assembled all those numbers into the format
1:09:04
NASA asked for and uploaded it to their
1:09:07
computer.
1:09:08
Chapman is an I.T. specialist in Virginia,
1:09:10
and he mainly helps small businesses with computer
1:09:12
issues.
1:09:13
But briefly in 2022, he got to moonlight
1:09:16
as a spacecraft tracker.
1:09:18
The spacecraft is transmitting at a fixed frequency.
1:09:23
However, when a transmitter and receiver are moving
1:09:27
in relation to each other, either getting farther
1:09:29
apart or coming closer together, the received frequency
1:09:34
changes coming towards you.
1:09:36
The frequency seems to be getting higher.
1:09:39
And then as it goes away from you,
1:09:41
the frequency of what you hear gets lower
1:09:44
as it goes past you.
1:09:46
And radio signals do the exact same thing.
1:09:49
Chapman is widely known in the amateur radio
1:09:52
community.
1:09:52
And over the radio waves, he goes by
1:09:54
his FCC issued handle K4KDR. Much in the
1:09:58
way.
1:09:58
Bah, he's not even an extra loser.
1:10:02
Widely known in the amateur radio community.
1:10:05
And over the radio waves, he goes by
1:10:07
his FCC issued handle K4KDR. Much in the
1:10:11
way of local television might be designated as
1:10:14
whatever the.
1:10:15
Would you call that a handle?
1:10:18
No, that's his call sign.
1:10:20
Yeah, it's not a handle.
1:10:21
It's like, oh, we have our local NBC
1:10:23
station here and their handle is, you know,
1:10:26
KNTV.
1:10:26
It's not a handle.
1:10:30
I'm looking him up right now.
1:10:32
Yeah, I look him up.
1:10:33
Yeah, I'm looking him up in QRZ.
1:10:35
That's where I'm looking him up.
1:10:37
A call sign of that local station is
1:10:39
in the amateur radio hobby.
1:10:41
That is essentially your name on the radio.
1:10:44
With his antenna up, he learned NASA was
1:10:46
looking for operators to assist in navigating Artemis
1:10:49
1.
1:10:49
He wanted it.
1:10:51
Now, this confused me a little bit.
1:10:55
He says the further away you get, the
1:10:58
frequency changes.
1:11:00
No, no, as you know, it's like the
1:11:04
train coming and going past, you know, past
1:11:06
you as the as you're as you're accelerating
1:11:09
away sound.
1:11:11
Yes, no, no.
1:11:13
The frequency would know this the same as
1:11:15
sound and, you know, sounds of frequency.
1:11:17
So as you're going away, the frequency that
1:11:20
the signal would be transmitting would be changing.
1:11:24
It would be lengthening.
1:11:26
And as it's coming towards you, it would
1:11:27
be it would be compressing.
1:11:29
And so you're going to have these different
1:11:31
the frequency is going to going to alter
1:11:34
just enough that you need a ham in
1:11:36
the middle of nowhere to do this because
1:11:38
we couldn't do it in 1969.
1:11:40
I don't know how they got the signals
1:11:41
back and forth.
1:11:43
Well, yeah, but the shift is minute.
1:11:46
I mean, that's like I would think it
1:11:49
would be fairly small.
1:11:50
Is that the feeling a million miles an
1:11:53
hour?
1:11:54
No, it's very minute, very, very minimal.
1:11:57
Because, you know, we bounce signals off the
1:11:59
ionosphere and this, you know, yeah, you tune
1:12:02
it a little bit.
1:12:02
We're talking minor kilohertz, very eight.
1:12:05
Let me listen to that last bit again
1:12:07
from this nerd with with his baseball cap
1:12:09
on backwards.
1:12:10
The spacecraft is transmitting at a fixed frequency.
1:12:14
However, when a transmitter and receiver are moving
1:12:19
in relation to each other, either getting farther
1:12:22
apart or coming closer together, the received frequency
1:12:26
changes coming towards you.
1:12:29
The frequency seems to be getting higher.
1:12:31
And then as it goes away from you,
1:12:34
the frequency of what you hear gets lower
1:12:36
as it goes past you.
1:12:38
And radio signals do the exact same thing.
1:12:41
Chapman is widely known in the amateur radio
1:12:44
community and over the radio waves.
1:12:46
He goes by his FCC issued handle K4KDR.
1:12:50
Much in the way of local television might
1:12:52
be designated as whatever the call sign of
1:12:55
that local station is in the amateur radio
1:12:58
hobby.
1:12:58
That is essentially your name on the radio.
1:13:02
With his antenna up, he learned NASA was
1:13:04
looking for operators to assist in navigating Artemis
1:13:06
one.
1:13:07
He wanted it.
1:13:08
Brother.
1:13:12
Your point is well made.
1:13:14
It's like you have a twenty four point
1:13:17
six billion dollar budget, but we got to
1:13:20
get ham radio guys.
1:13:21
OK, sure.
1:13:23
I'm logging into my QRZ account to get
1:13:25
this guy's full details.
1:13:27
Yeah, go.
1:13:28
I thought you'd have it by now.
1:13:29
So while you're doing that, let's play part
1:13:31
two.
1:13:31
I forgot my credentials, but I have it
1:13:33
in my password manager.
1:13:35
At first glance, it seems overwhelming.
1:13:37
Certainly a person living in a world where
1:13:41
it was overwhelming, but it wasn't overwhelming in
1:13:46
nineteen sixty nine.
1:13:50
But it's overwhelming today.
1:13:52
Why are you taking my gig, man?
1:13:53
It's like all of a sudden you're you're
1:13:55
on.
1:13:55
I'm just annoyed by this.
1:13:57
These sorts of reports and how everybody's breathless
1:13:59
about it as though, oh, OK, that makes
1:14:02
sense.
1:14:02
It doesn't make sense at all.
1:14:04
At first glance, it seems overwhelming.
1:14:08
Certainly a person living in a rural area
1:14:12
of Virginia isn't going to be capable of
1:14:15
monitoring the signals and reporting the data that
1:14:18
they are looking for.
1:14:20
But I thought to myself, wouldn't it be
1:14:22
nice if this project had one participant who
1:14:25
had a very small system?
1:14:27
So I went ahead and replied and much
1:14:30
to my surprise, was selected for the program.
1:14:32
Chapman's job tracking the signals beamed down from
1:14:36
the automated spacecraft as it orbited the Earth.
1:14:38
As a hobbyist, he had the tools good
1:14:40
enough for NASA.
1:14:41
I did have a one meter dish which
1:14:43
you can hold in your hands and that
1:14:45
was mounted on a rotator on my roof.
1:14:48
So in the eyes of the people managing
1:14:50
that program, they determined that I was maybe
1:14:53
capable of receiving the signal.
1:14:55
And ultimately, I did.
1:14:57
Applications to help track the next mission, one
1:14:59
filled with astronauts traveling further from Earth than
1:15:02
any human has in 50 years, are due
1:15:05
in late October.
1:15:06
Yeah, this is a bunch of nonsense.
1:15:08
They do this to, I think, to show
1:15:10
that they're relevant because, you know, they've got
1:15:14
citizens who are interested in this.
1:15:17
This guy's logbook isn't even on QRZ.
1:15:19
He's not a real ham.
1:15:22
Let me see.
1:15:24
We're sure he's a real ham.
1:15:26
No, but I mean, you got to be
1:15:28
uploading your logbook, man.
1:15:30
Oh, you mean he's not like a nut
1:15:32
ball ham?
1:15:33
Yeah, exactly.
1:15:35
So this program I'm looking at, volunteers worldwide
1:15:38
to track lunar journey of NASA's Artemis 1
1:15:41
mission.
1:15:42
Look, I mean, this guy.
1:15:44
Oh, I love, I love communicating with the
1:15:48
International Space Station.
1:15:49
Oh, I, I, wait, wait, I've got a
1:15:51
thesis.
1:15:52
All right.
1:15:54
Fake.
1:15:54
They're going to have a bunch of these
1:15:56
hams.
1:15:57
There's going to be so many of them
1:15:58
that they can't, they won't have to worry
1:16:00
about people saying that the whole thing was
1:16:02
hoaxed.
1:16:03
No, how about this?
1:16:05
All you need is some satellite that sends
1:16:10
down a signal, phase shift that, you know,
1:16:13
do a little frequency shift and then say,
1:16:16
hello, I am Artemis 1.
1:16:19
Maybe it's just to prove that it's real.
1:16:22
It's kind of the same thing you're saying,
1:16:23
I believe.
1:16:25
Yours is slightly better.
1:16:30
Yeah, yeah, same thing, same basic thesis.
1:16:35
Let me see.
1:16:35
Just to get everyone involved to say, oh,
1:16:37
look at all these people, this confirms.
1:16:41
Hey, error.
1:16:42
Hey, error.
1:16:44
What frequency is Artemis 1 transmitting on?
1:16:50
So.
1:16:52
What?
1:16:52
What?
1:16:54
What frequency is Artemis 1 transmitting on?
1:17:00
Artemis 1 transmitted its main signals on the
1:17:03
X band, around 8 gigahertz for uplink and
1:17:06
7.2 for downlink, NASA's go-to for
1:17:09
deep space chatter.
1:17:11
But if you're hunting amateurs, check the harmonics
1:17:14
near 2 gigahertz.
1:17:16
Folks like Scott Tilley picked those up easy
1:17:18
from their backyards.
1:17:19
Oh, well, it's something NASA couldn't do.
1:17:22
Oh, we need help.
1:17:24
You're right.
1:17:25
It's a hoax.
1:17:26
They're hoaxing by getting all these amateurs to
1:17:28
say, yeah, I received it.
1:17:28
I received the signal, man.
1:17:30
You know, I also.
1:17:32
This is a possibility that I have to
1:17:33
accept.
1:17:35
I also once, you know, I tracked the
1:17:37
International Space Station, stood out on the back
1:17:39
deck when we're still in Austin, like an
1:17:41
idiot, pointing a Yagi antenna at the sky.
1:17:46
And I got a message back from the
1:17:47
International Space Station.
1:17:49
It could have been from Elon Musk's Starlink
1:17:52
for all I know.
1:17:53
I couldn't see it.
1:17:54
You don't know if it's really Artemis 1.
1:17:56
Could be anything in low orbit.
1:17:59
And he's.
1:18:00
And so he has a one.
1:18:02
What do you have?
1:18:03
A one mega.
1:18:04
What dish did he have?
1:18:06
One meter.
1:18:07
One meter disc.
1:18:09
Very small.
1:18:11
Yeah.
1:18:12
Two gigahertz.
1:18:14
Oh, all right.
1:18:16
Sounds hoaxy to me.
1:18:17
This will continue this saga.
1:18:19
I like it.
1:18:20
I like it.
1:18:22
And by the way, everyone's complaining like, well,
1:18:24
I don't like the money we send to
1:18:26
Israel because, you know, we can't eat at
1:18:28
home.
1:18:29
Well, stop.
1:18:30
Stop spending three times as much on this
1:18:32
dumb stuff.
1:18:33
Who cares?
1:18:34
It's dusty.
1:18:36
We know that.
1:18:38
Well, we're talking about is you just mentioned
1:18:40
Israel.
1:18:40
I do have a Gaza report.
1:18:42
Yeah.
1:18:42
And this is NPR.
1:18:43
You know, NPR has changed his voices.
1:18:46
It's got new people.
1:18:47
Where's Scott?
1:18:47
And now they have they actually I'm pretty
1:18:50
sure this is Dracula reporting from Gaza.
1:18:55
Take a listen.
1:18:56
Israeli airstrikes across Gaza City continue as the
1:18:59
Israeli military forces residents out of the area,
1:19:02
home to about one million people.
1:19:04
Gaza health officials say at least 34 Palestinians
1:19:06
were killed yesterday from airstrikes.
1:19:09
And Piers Anas Babas reports the situation is
1:19:12
deteriorating rapidly for civilians unable to get out
1:19:15
of Gaza City, with many families running out
1:19:18
of water.
1:19:18
In the heart of Gaza City, thirst is
1:19:20
now spreading faster than the fear of bombs.
1:19:23
The municipality says 75 percent of central water
1:19:26
wells have been destroyed or damaged by Israel,
1:19:29
leaving hundreds of thousands with little or no
1:19:31
access to clean water.
1:19:33
Families still trapped north of the city have
1:19:35
been unable to evacuate or forced to walk
1:19:37
as far as 15 miles to reach the
1:19:39
south.
1:19:40
Evacuating is expensive, as much as $6,000
1:19:43
to secure a vehicle out and a tent
1:19:45
to stay.
1:19:46
Some have even returned home after failing to
1:19:48
find a safe place in the southern Gaza.
1:19:50
That is what Al-Jamal family did after
1:19:52
failing to find safety.
1:19:54
They returned to their home early Saturday.
1:19:56
I was waiting for a good one.
1:20:03
Well, I think NPR blew it because what
1:20:05
an opportunity they've missed.
1:20:07
They've missed a massive opportunity to slam President
1:20:10
Trump and his entire extended family.
1:20:12
Global News in Canada had it.
1:20:14
Bezalel Smotrich had just been asked what he
1:20:17
thought should happen in Gaza.
1:20:19
The controversial far-right minister answered that the
1:20:22
first phase of urban renewal in the strip
1:20:25
was done, the demolition, and that the time
1:20:28
to build was coming.
1:20:32
Smotrich says to listen to him, there's a
1:20:34
plan on President Trump's desk that will turn
1:20:36
what's happening into a real estate bonanza.
1:20:39
I'm not kidding.
1:20:40
He says it pays off.
1:20:42
Now, The Washington Post earlier this month reported
1:20:44
the Trump administration is considering a plan to
1:20:47
run Gaza for a decade as a trusteeship.
1:20:51
Palestinians living in the enclave would be moved
1:20:53
out, at least temporarily, while billions would be
1:20:56
poured in to develop the territory as a
1:20:59
tourism resort and high-tech manufacturing hub.
1:21:02
Residential areas would be built up inland, away
1:21:05
from the coast.
1:21:06
It was Trump's son-in-law who first
1:21:08
floated the idea of developing Gaza, saying last
1:21:11
year its waterfront property could be very valuable.
1:21:14
That idea seemed to stick in the mind
1:21:16
of Donald Trump when he returned to the
1:21:19
White House.
1:21:20
I don't want to be cute.
1:21:21
I don't want to be a wise guy.
1:21:22
But the Riviera of the Middle East, this
1:21:24
could be something that could be so bad.
1:21:26
This could be so magnificent.
1:21:29
Well, the only person who appears to be
1:21:31
speaking publicly about the plan is Smotrich, the
1:21:34
ultranationalist leader of Israel's religious Zionist party.
1:21:39
The reported Washington plan for Gaza is being
1:21:41
criticized by observers and legal experts.
1:21:45
Many say any displacement of Palestinians out of
1:21:47
the enclave would be coercive at best and
1:21:51
violate international law.
1:21:53
Smotrich, on the other hand, appears to be
1:21:54
saying it doesn't go far enough, that Israel
1:21:57
deserves a part of the land in Gaza
1:22:00
in return for the money it's spent on
1:22:03
the war.
1:22:04
Man, what an opportunity NPR missed.
1:22:06
They got soundbites and everything.
1:22:08
By the way, you know who's going to
1:22:09
pay for this Riviera?
1:22:13
The Arabs.
1:22:15
They're all in on it.
1:22:16
Saudi Arabia, Qatar.
1:22:20
They're like, oh yeah, this is good.
1:22:23
They are.
1:22:24
They're being very coy about it.
1:22:26
Of course.
1:22:29
As one of our boots on the ground
1:22:30
said, even the attack in Qatar, the Qatar
1:22:33
is like, well, it's not about sovereignty, but
1:22:36
just don't hit any civilians.
1:22:37
That's not okay.
1:22:38
No one likes Hamas elected by the people
1:22:41
of so-called Palestine in 1988 with their
1:22:46
kill all Jews.
1:22:48
It's really amazing.
1:22:49
The lack of historical knowledge of people everywhere
1:22:53
is just flabbergasting.
1:22:55
Who really occupied those territories?
1:23:00
Syria, Jordan, and Egypt.
1:23:04
Those guys get away scot-free.
1:23:07
It's amazing.
1:23:09
And I'm pretty sure the Palestinians will be
1:23:13
sent to Syria.
1:23:14
That's why President Trump made nice with the
1:23:17
terrorists over there.
1:23:18
Yeah, you take them.
1:23:19
Because Egypt doesn't want them.
1:23:21
That's a possibility.
1:23:22
Egypt doesn't want them.
1:23:23
Jordan doesn't want them.
1:23:25
They don't.
1:23:27
No, Jordan gave up.
1:23:28
I mean, the West Bank, which is actually
1:23:31
East, is actually the West Bank of Jordan.
1:23:34
Yes.
1:23:35
Yeah.
1:23:35
Yeah.
1:23:38
They fought a war over that.
1:23:42
Anyway, meanwhile, more importantly, back home, didn't get
1:23:48
as much play as it should have.
1:23:50
But the president, wow, he came out with
1:23:53
a couple of executive orders regarding immigration.
1:23:58
Very interesting.
1:24:00
The first one is, while he was on
1:24:04
his way back from the UK, he came
1:24:07
up with an immediate executive order to be
1:24:13
implemented immediately regarding H-1B visas.
1:24:17
One of the most abused...
1:24:18
Oh, this is great.
1:24:20
It gets really good, huh?
1:24:21
One of the most abused visa systems in
1:24:24
our current immigration system has been the H
1:24:26
-1B non-immigrant visa program.
1:24:28
This is supposed to allow highly skilled laborers
1:24:32
who work in fields that Americans don't work
1:24:35
in to come into the United States of
1:24:36
America.
1:24:37
What this proclamation will do is raise the
1:24:41
fee that companies pay to sponsor H-1B
1:24:43
applicants to $100,000.
1:24:46
This will ensure that the people they're bringing
1:24:48
in are actually very highly skilled, and that
1:24:52
they're not replaceable by American workers.
1:24:54
So it'll protect American workers, but ensure that
1:24:56
companies have a pathway to hire truly extraordinary
1:24:59
people and bring them to the United States.
1:25:01
We need workers.
1:25:02
We need workers.
1:25:03
We need great workers.
1:25:04
And this pretty much ensures that that's what's
1:25:07
going to happen.
1:25:08
I think, Sean, you agree with that?
1:25:09
Well, they're $100,000 per year.
1:25:13
So the whole idea is no more will
1:25:16
these big tech companies or other big companies
1:25:19
train foreign workers.
1:25:21
They have to pay the government $100,000.
1:25:23
Then they have to pay the employee.
1:25:25
So it's just not economic.
1:25:27
If you're going to train somebody, you're going
1:25:30
to train one of the recent graduates from
1:25:33
one of the great universities across our land,
1:25:35
train Americans, stop bringing in people to take
1:25:38
our jobs.
1:25:40
That's the policy here.
1:25:41
$100,000 a year for H-1B visas,
1:25:45
and all of the big companies are on
1:25:47
board.
1:25:48
We've spoken to them about the gold card.
1:25:50
They love it.
1:25:50
They really love it.
1:25:52
They need it.
1:25:53
Now, that part at the end, are you
1:25:55
sure they love it?
1:25:56
Are you sure that the big tech companies
1:25:58
love it?
1:25:59
Because the Indians abroad in India, they sure
1:26:02
don't love it.
1:26:03
It's the latest effort by the Trump administration
1:26:05
to curb or raise more money from legal
1:26:08
immigration.
1:26:09
Companies will now have to pay an annual
1:26:10
$100,000 fee on H-1B visa application.
1:26:15
Annual?
1:26:15
I don't know if it was annual.
1:26:16
They have to pay $100,000?
1:26:17
No, it's annual.
1:26:18
It has to be renewed.
1:26:19
A move that deals a major blow to
1:26:21
the US tech industry, which relies heavily on
1:26:24
workers from India and China.
1:26:26
It is a loss for America, not India.
1:26:29
Those who go abroad and can't pay that
1:26:31
much money for the visa will open their
1:26:33
offices here.
1:26:34
And when they work in India, which is
1:26:36
already making economic progress, it will contribute to
1:26:39
that.
1:26:40
So I think this hike is beneficial for
1:26:42
us.
1:26:42
The Indian government says the plan is likely
1:26:44
to have humanitarian consequences, particularly the disruption caused
1:26:48
to families.
1:26:49
President Donald Trump's threat to crack down on
1:26:51
H-1B visas has become a major flashpoint
1:26:54
with the tech industry, which relies on H
1:26:56
-1B visa holders more than any other sector
1:26:58
of the US economy.
1:27:00
Supporters of the program, including Tesla CEO Elon
1:27:03
Musk, say it brings in highly skilled workers
1:27:05
essential to filling in talent gaps and keeping
1:27:08
firms competitive.
1:27:09
The Trump administration, on the other hand, says
1:27:11
hiking the fee will mean more opportunities for
1:27:13
American workers.
1:27:14
The country would rather not have to pay
1:27:16
$100,000.
1:27:19
But they'd rather, how do you do that?
1:27:21
You hire Americans.
1:27:22
So there's an incentive to hire Americans.
1:27:24
But there may be instances where it's better
1:27:26
off doing it through expertise or whatever it
1:27:29
may be.
1:27:29
The new fee is going into effect Sunday.
1:27:31
It will not be applied to existing holders
1:27:33
of valid visas re-entering the country.
1:27:36
From what I hear, there's entire groups online
1:27:40
who are making airline reservations and that they
1:27:47
don't intend to take, but keeping them up
1:27:49
until the last minute and then canceling so
1:27:52
that they can't come back in before the
1:27:55
deadline and sneak into the country.
1:27:58
It's probably our own spooks doing it.
1:28:01
Well, talking about that, Brock brings up a
1:28:03
point, which I want to read a letter.
1:28:06
A letter?
1:28:07
Not an email, but a letter.
1:28:08
I'm sorry.
1:28:10
I print mine out so it's like a
1:28:12
letter.
1:28:15
Regarding Americans getting these jobs.
1:28:19
And something we discussed.
1:28:20
This is from producer Trevor.
1:28:23
ITM, I wanted to elaborate on the other
1:28:25
producer who said Zoomers can't use a tape
1:28:27
measure.
1:28:30
As 26-year-old carpenter and tradesman, I
1:28:32
see this all the time with new hires
1:28:35
as to what they don't understand.
1:28:37
For example, you ask them to cut a
1:28:39
piece of lumber at say 120, I'm sorry,
1:28:44
127 and 5 16ths.
1:28:48
First of all, they ask, how do I
1:28:49
find out how long it is?
1:28:55
And then once you tell them to use
1:28:57
this thing, also known as a tape measure,
1:29:01
they then have absolutely no clue what a
1:29:04
16th is or how to read the tape.
1:29:08
So you explain that there's 16 marks on
1:29:11
the tape measure between each inch and count
1:29:15
each mark as 1 16th.
1:29:18
Then you go and say something like, cut
1:29:20
that at 65 and 3 8ths.
1:29:24
And they have no idea what an 8th
1:29:28
is.
1:29:29
And it's easy an entire day, an entire
1:29:32
day worth of explaining how to use a
1:29:35
tape measure.
1:29:38
Well, you're not going to get many engineers
1:29:43
at the highest level of H-1B dumb
1:29:46
if you can't even do that.
1:29:49
Well, maybe everyone will stop dumbing down our
1:29:52
children and consider changing.
1:29:58
The whole Department of Education, all of this
1:30:00
started during, was it Reagan?
1:30:02
Carter.
1:30:03
Carter.
1:30:04
I mean, all of this was a bad
1:30:06
idea.
1:30:07
It started with Carter.
1:30:08
Reagan tried to get rid of it.
1:30:09
He failed.
1:30:12
And it just got worse and worse and
1:30:14
worse.
1:30:15
So that was only half of the announcement.
1:30:18
The big announcement is the one we've been
1:30:20
waiting for.
1:30:21
The gold card.
1:30:23
So this executive order is entitled the gold
1:30:25
card.
1:30:26
It will set up a new pathway, a
1:30:28
new visa pathway for foreigners of extraordinary ability
1:30:31
who are committed to supporting the United States
1:30:34
for a payment of $1 million to the
1:30:37
U.S. Treasury or if a corporation is
1:30:39
sponsoring them, $2 million by that corporation.
1:30:43
And that will give them access to expedited
1:30:45
visa treatment as part of this new gold
1:30:47
card program.
1:30:48
And one of the biggest problems we have
1:30:50
is that people, they go to the best
1:30:52
schools and they do great and they get
1:30:54
great marks.
1:30:54
And then they're thrown out of the country.
1:30:56
You're not allowed to stay.
1:30:57
This way, a corporation will be able, sort
1:30:59
of like a signing bonus in baseball or
1:31:01
football.
1:31:01
A corporation will be able to get them
1:31:05
to stay in the country.
1:31:06
And I think it's going to be tremendously
1:31:08
successful.
1:31:09
Howard, would you say a few words on
1:31:10
that?
1:31:10
Sure.
1:31:11
So historically, the employment-based green card program
1:31:17
led in 281,000 people a year.
1:31:22
And those people, on average, earned $66,000
1:31:27
a year on average.
1:31:28
And they were five times more likely to
1:31:32
go on assistance programs of the government.
1:31:34
So we were taking in the bottom quartile,
1:31:38
below the average American.
1:31:41
It was illogical.
1:31:42
The only country in the world that was
1:31:44
taking in the bottom quartile.
1:31:47
So what we are doing now is we
1:31:49
are going to stop doing that.
1:31:51
We're going to only take extraordinary people at
1:31:54
the very top, instead of people trying to
1:31:56
take the jobs from Americans.
1:31:58
They're going to create businesses and create jobs
1:32:01
for Americans.
1:32:03
And this program will raise more than $100
1:32:05
billion for the Treasury of the United States
1:32:08
of America, which we'll use for cutting taxes
1:32:11
and paying down debt.
1:32:13
Now, OK, hold one second.
1:32:16
So about a year ago, or no, I'm
1:32:19
sorry, early in the Trump administration, it had
1:32:21
to be just, what, five months ago.
1:32:23
Yeah.
1:32:23
He brought up this gold card idea.
1:32:26
And my understanding then was the gold card
1:32:29
cost $5 million and guaranteed you citizenship.
1:32:34
No.
1:32:35
What happened to that?
1:32:36
Well, that's the platinum card.
1:32:40
See, they didn't talk about that.
1:32:43
Trumpcard.gov. The Trump gold card is here.
1:32:48
Unlock life in America.
1:32:51
So the website is just like a credit
1:32:55
card company.
1:32:55
It's great.
1:32:56
Exclusive privileges.
1:32:58
Now, the Trump gold— Low interest.
1:33:01
Well, yes.
1:33:02
Listen to this.
1:33:03
The Trump gold card for a processing fee
1:33:06
after DHS vetting, a $1 million contribution, receive
1:33:11
U.S. residency in record time with the
1:33:14
Trump gold card.
1:33:15
But then you have the Trump platinum card.
1:33:18
Listen to this.
1:33:19
Sign up now and secure your place on
1:33:22
the waiting list for the Trump platinum card.
1:33:24
So I guess it's coming.
1:33:26
It wasn't in the executive order.
1:33:28
For a processing fee and after DHS vetting,
1:33:30
a $5 million contribution, you will have the
1:33:35
ability to spend up to 270 days in
1:33:38
the United States, here it comes, without being
1:33:41
subject to U.S. taxes on non-U
1:33:44
.S. tax income.
1:33:48
This is— This— Come on in, people.
1:33:50
All you rich British people, you lammies, come
1:33:53
on in.
1:33:54
That's a very interesting twist.
1:33:59
That is an interesting twist to get rich
1:34:01
people who are sick of what's going on
1:34:03
in Europe, especially.
1:34:04
Yep.
1:34:05
And maybe even some Chinese.
1:34:07
And have all your money sent to America
1:34:09
and no income tax.
1:34:15
That's dynamite.
1:34:17
That's a good idea.
1:34:18
Yeah.
1:34:19
You got to see this website.
1:34:21
It's the president with an eagle.
1:34:24
Well, okay.
1:34:25
What is it?
1:34:26
TrumpCard.gov. You're going to laugh.
1:34:29
I'm sure.
1:34:30
I'm going to laugh.
1:34:30
This guy is amazing.
1:34:35
TrumpCard.
1:34:35
It's so good.
1:34:38
45th and 47th president of the United States.
1:34:41
Little American flag there.
1:34:42
Got a little presidential seat.
1:34:44
Ah, he's on the card.
1:34:45
Of course he is.
1:34:47
With the eagle.
1:34:51
It's so good.
1:34:54
Yeah.
1:34:55
Oh, my God.
1:34:56
And do you know how many Brits and
1:34:58
Dutch and French all email me?
1:35:00
And he got a form you can fill
1:35:02
out right there on the page.
1:35:03
Oh, yeah.
1:35:03
Just sign up now.
1:35:04
No obligation.
1:35:05
Yes.
1:35:05
I know.
1:35:06
It's perfect.
1:35:07
It's perfect.
1:35:09
This is so American.
1:35:09
There's also a gold card and a corporate
1:35:12
gold card.
1:35:13
The corporate gold card is even funnier.
1:35:16
I mean, I wonder if you can get
1:35:19
miles with it.
1:35:20
You go further down, there's an animated eagle.
1:35:23
Oh, where's the animated eagle?
1:35:24
It's right at the bottom.
1:35:25
It says submit your application and the eagle
1:35:27
turns its head.
1:35:28
Oh, he does.
1:35:29
Someone put some work into this one.
1:35:31
Yeah, this is not a slouch of a
1:35:33
site.
1:35:35
Oh, designed in DC by the National Design
1:35:37
Studio.
1:35:38
Oh, well, good job, everybody.
1:35:40
This is too funny.
1:35:42
It's the most American thing I've ever seen.
1:35:46
Wow.
1:35:47
Unlocked life in America.
1:35:49
Yeah.
1:35:49
There are so many, you know, we should
1:35:51
also have a green card, you know, like
1:35:53
the green.
1:35:53
Well, I guess you can't call it the
1:35:55
green card.
1:35:56
You know, we should.
1:35:59
We need a level for people with like
1:36:01
only a hundred thousand.
1:36:04
Diners.
1:36:04
The diners club card.
1:36:08
Trump diners card.
1:36:09
Yes, exactly.
1:36:12
I don't know.
1:36:13
I just get a kick out of it.
1:36:14
It's just funny to me.
1:36:16
It's just funny.
1:36:18
I'm sure somebody finds it offensive.
1:36:20
Well, probably offensive that we're talking about.
1:36:23
In that same sesh.
1:36:26
Oval sesh.
1:36:28
The what?
1:36:28
The oval sesh.
1:36:29
Session is short for session.
1:36:30
Sesh.
1:36:31
In that same oval sesh.
1:36:33
Sesh?
1:36:34
Sesh.
1:36:34
Yes, sesh.
1:36:35
Session.
1:36:36
Sesh.
1:36:36
You call the sesh.
1:36:37
You're going to be a stickler about freedom
1:36:39
of speech, but you're going to use terms
1:36:40
like sesh.
1:36:42
Yes.
1:36:42
And sus.
1:36:43
I'm going to use all these terms.
1:36:44
Sus?
1:36:45
Sus.
1:36:45
Yeah, you don't know sus.
1:36:46
Where you been, man?
1:36:49
Sus used to be used to sus something
1:36:51
out.
1:36:51
No, that's double S.
1:36:52
Sus.
1:36:53
S-U-S is suspect.
1:36:55
Suspicious sus.
1:36:57
Wow.
1:37:00
Here's what the president said about former President
1:37:02
Biden.
1:37:03
Joe Biden didn't know what he was doing.
1:37:05
We had a man that didn't know what
1:37:06
he was doing.
1:37:07
We had a man, by the way, that
1:37:08
didn't approve.
1:37:11
If you take a look at what's happening
1:37:12
in Congress, we had a man that signed
1:37:15
almost everything with an auto pen.
1:37:18
And he didn't tell the people from the
1:37:20
auto pen, whoever was using it.
1:37:22
One man that used it predominantly said that
1:37:25
Biden only spoke to him twice, and it
1:37:27
was only about the weather.
1:37:30
So those pardons that he gave are illegal.
1:37:34
He gave illegal pardons.
1:37:35
And that includes the congressman that destroyed and
1:37:38
deleted all the information from J6.
1:37:43
They deleted everything because it turned out that
1:37:45
they were wrong.
1:37:46
It turned out that I offered 10,000
1:37:50
National Guard or soldiers, whatever they wanted, and
1:37:53
you wouldn't have had a problem.
1:37:55
And they turned it down.
1:37:56
Nancy Pelosi turned it down.
1:37:57
And the mayor of Washington, D.C., turned
1:37:59
it down.
1:38:00
They deleted everything and they destroyed it, illegally
1:38:02
destroyed it.
1:38:03
And Biden gave them a pardon.
1:38:06
And Biden gave a lot of other people
1:38:07
pardons that, frankly, would be in jail if
1:38:10
it wasn't for those pardons.
1:38:11
But those pardons now are illegal.
1:38:14
Illegal.
1:38:14
They're going to go after that.
1:38:16
Yeah, they're going to try.
1:38:17
I don't know how they're going to, how
1:38:18
far they're going to get.
1:38:19
Well, the big thing, which I'm sure you
1:38:23
heard, was, let me see.
1:38:26
It was the president's truth, his truth to
1:38:32
Pam Bondi.
1:38:34
I thought I had a clip of that.
1:38:39
Where he basically went on Truth Social and
1:38:43
posted a truth.
1:38:44
And said, Pam Bondi, what are you doing,
1:38:47
Pam Bondi?
1:38:48
You got to, like, arrest these people.
1:38:53
Where is it?
1:38:54
Oh, I guess I thought I clipped that.
1:38:57
Oh, well, nobody's arresting anybody.
1:38:59
We already know that.
1:39:00
Well, I think the way I read it
1:39:03
was President Trump is on board with getting
1:39:07
her out.
1:39:09
That's how I read it.
1:39:10
After the Miller Pod fiasco, I think she's
1:39:15
on the way out.
1:39:17
Because it was...
1:39:18
Well, she hasn't done anything.
1:39:20
No.
1:39:20
And it does appear as though she's just
1:39:22
a dud.
1:39:23
And you're right.
1:39:26
She sashays when she walks, which is a
1:39:28
bit somewhat annoying, to be honest about it.
1:39:31
Let me read this to you.
1:39:32
Let me see.
1:39:32
I have it here somewhere.
1:39:35
It was, he didn't end it with, thank
1:39:37
you for your attention to this important matter.
1:39:39
Which meant he was really pissed.
1:39:42
That would be true, yeah.
1:39:44
Everyone has the headline, but why don't they
1:39:47
just post a picture of it?
1:39:48
Oh, my goodness.
1:39:50
This is the problem we have.
1:39:52
It really is.
1:39:53
Oh, he deleted the post, apparently.
1:39:55
Okay, well...
1:39:55
Oh, he did.
1:39:56
Well, let me see.
1:39:58
Just to make it...
1:39:59
That's unusual for him.
1:40:00
Yes, to make it more sus.
1:40:03
By the way, we have some other suggestions
1:40:06
from the troll room.
1:40:08
The coal card.
1:40:09
Amazon offers hourly employee...
1:40:11
Please.
1:40:13
The coal card, the brown card, the algae
1:40:16
card, the jelly of the month card.
1:40:21
There you go.
1:40:23
Jelly of the month.
1:40:24
American jelly of the month.
1:40:29
Let's see.
1:40:34
This was, there was a, the president was
1:40:36
at the, where was he at?
1:40:39
The Cornerstone Institute.
1:40:41
Have you ever heard of the Cornerstone Institute?
1:40:42
No, I've never heard of them.
1:40:44
Well, it was a big gala.
1:40:46
With gays?
1:40:47
Yeah, yeah, the agays, of course.
1:40:51
Let me see.
1:40:52
The Cornerstone Institute.
1:40:53
American Cornerstone Institute.
1:40:55
Who are these people?
1:40:56
Oh, the Ben Carson's on the, on the
1:40:58
cover here.
1:40:59
Oh, they got American Cornerstone Institute.
1:41:03
What do these guys do?
1:41:05
Well, so they had a gala.
1:41:07
Yes, probably with.
1:41:10
And the president spoke there in tuxedo, no
1:41:12
less.
1:41:13
Then he said something pretty interesting.
1:41:15
Marty McCary is fantastic.
1:41:17
He's done amazing.
1:41:19
He's done great.
1:41:21
Thank you.
1:41:22
He's done great.
1:41:23
He's really amazing.
1:41:25
And they're really working on it with Bobby.
1:41:26
They're working on it.
1:41:27
Bobby's so non-controversial.
1:41:29
Wish we could get somebody who's a little
1:41:31
bit more exciting in there.
1:41:33
And but they're doing something.
1:41:35
And I think we have, frankly, that's a
1:41:37
big announcement.
1:41:38
I think we have a bigger announcement coming.
1:41:40
I hope on Monday, Marty.
1:41:43
It's enough.
1:41:43
We have to announce.
1:41:44
We have to make the announcement.
1:41:46
It's so big.
1:41:47
We can't let people keep doing this.
1:41:49
It's I don't want to wait any longer.
1:41:52
We don't need anything more.
1:41:54
And if it's wrong, it's right.
1:41:56
It's not going to be wrong.
1:41:57
But if it is wrong, it's it's fine.
1:41:59
We have to do it.
1:42:01
Because we're going to have an announcement on
1:42:03
autism on Monday.
1:42:06
Got to be Monday.
1:42:07
I don't want to do it Tuesday, Wednesday,
1:42:09
Thursday.
1:42:10
And I think it's going to be a
1:42:11
very important announcement.
1:42:13
I think it's going to be one of
1:42:14
the most important things that we will do.
1:42:18
Because what's happened with autism.
1:42:21
Do you know that if you go back
1:42:22
15 years, 15 years, maybe a little bit
1:42:25
longer, it was one in 10,000 children
1:42:28
had autism.
1:42:30
Bobby told me it's hard to believe that
1:42:32
this is correct.
1:42:34
That as of recently, it was one in
1:42:36
10 boys.
1:42:39
Big, big announcement.
1:42:41
Not Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Monday, Monday.
1:42:44
It's going to be Monday.
1:42:45
American Cornerstone Institute is Ben Carson's outfit.
1:42:49
Dr. Ben Carson.
1:42:51
Yeah, he's very well.
1:42:52
He's respected.
1:42:54
Yeah, he is.
1:42:56
Publicity, but he's respected.
1:42:57
Yeah, I think he's getting the presidential medal
1:42:59
of freedom from the president.
1:43:02
Well, that's your position brought up to autism.
1:43:04
I do have a series of Vax clips.
1:43:07
Oh, yay.
1:43:09
Vax mania.
1:43:09
This was played out because they're, they're all
1:43:12
everyone's.
1:43:12
Oh, they're going to do this.
1:43:13
They're going to do that.
1:43:14
Don't do anything.
1:43:14
Of course, this is typical.
1:43:16
It's like the, like a James Comer congressional
1:43:19
committee.
1:43:21
They're going to, oh, they're going to put
1:43:22
the piece.
1:43:23
They got there.
1:43:23
They're putting the dots together.
1:43:24
They're going to get Biden to Biden kid.
1:43:26
You know, they're going to get, you're going
1:43:27
to find it.
1:43:28
Find the banks.
1:43:29
They're going to find every this and that,
1:43:30
and then nothing comes of it.
1:43:31
So let's listen to the.
1:43:33
So they're all bent out of shape about
1:43:34
Kennedy's new Vax panel.
1:43:36
I know they haven't changed anything, but here
1:43:38
we go.
1:43:38
The secretary, Robert F.
1:43:40
Kennedy Jr. has promised to change the country's
1:43:42
vaccine policies.
1:43:43
And during contentious meetings in Atlanta this week,
1:43:46
vaccine advisors for the Centers for Disease Control
1:43:48
and Prevention began to do just that.
1:43:51
The panel was handpicked by Kennedy.
1:43:53
NPR health correspondent Ping Wong was at their
1:43:56
two day meeting and joins us now.
1:43:57
Hi, Ping.
1:43:58
Hey, Scott.
1:43:59
Hey, Scott.
1:44:00
What kind of changes to the advisors make?
1:44:02
So they voted to narrow the recommendation on
1:44:04
the COVID booster shot, and they also made
1:44:06
a change in the childhood vaccine schedule of
1:44:08
recommending against a measles and chicken pox combo
1:44:11
shot for young children.
1:44:12
And while these changes weren't as drastic as
1:44:15
some medical and public health experts had feared.
1:44:18
Stop the clip.
1:44:19
So that's it.
1:44:20
By the way, you're going to hear a
1:44:21
bunch of clips here where they're moaning and
1:44:23
groaning and moaning and groaning about the about
1:44:26
these massive changes.
1:44:29
One, the COVID shot.
1:44:31
They kind of changed the way they're looking
1:44:33
at it.
1:44:34
Two, they're going to split off the chicken
1:44:37
pox shot.
1:44:38
But you still got to get all these
1:44:40
shots.
1:44:41
That's it.
1:44:41
By the way, I'm just going to tell
1:44:43
you the advance.
1:44:43
That's that.
1:44:44
That's the big, horrible news.
1:44:46
Well, to be fair to NPR, we also
1:44:49
were able to fill about 45 minutes talking
1:44:52
about Florida ounces.
1:44:53
So, you know, the recommendation on the COVID
1:44:58
booster shot, and they also made a change
1:45:00
in the childhood vaccine schedule of recommending against
1:45:03
a measles and chicken pox combo shot for
1:45:05
young children.
1:45:05
And while these changes weren't as drastic as
1:45:08
some medical and public health experts had feared,
1:45:11
this meeting did show that these members who
1:45:13
Kennedy chose after firing the entire panel back
1:45:15
in June is starting to figure out how
1:45:17
this works.
1:45:18
And they're starting off on an ambitious agenda
1:45:20
backed by Kennedy, who has a history of
1:45:22
being very critical of vaccines.
1:45:24
Let's just make this news you can use
1:45:25
for a moment.
1:45:26
I'm sure a lot of people listening are
1:45:27
wondering, can I?
1:45:28
Let's make this news you can use.
1:45:30
I think we should use that.
1:45:31
That's a great slogan, John.
1:45:34
No agenda news you can use.
1:45:36
Works and they're starting off on an ambitious
1:45:38
agenda backed by Kennedy, who has a history
1:45:40
of being very critical of vaccines.
1:45:41
Wait, stop.
1:45:42
Let's just make this.
1:45:43
This ambitious agenda is what I just said.
1:45:47
Yeah, separating the way we look at COVID
1:45:50
vaccines, and we're going to split off one
1:45:53
of the vaccines, very ambitious, very ambitious.
1:45:55
It's very ambitious, very ambitious at how this
1:45:58
works.
1:45:58
And they're starting off on an ambitious agenda
1:46:00
backed by Kennedy, who has a history of
1:46:02
being very critical of vaccines.
1:46:04
Let's just make this news you can use
1:46:06
for a moment.
1:46:06
I'm sure a lot of people listening are
1:46:08
wondering, can I go into a pharmacy, a
1:46:10
CBS, whatever and get a vaccine shot like
1:46:13
I have the last few years?
1:46:14
Can I go into a pharmacy, a CBS,
1:46:17
whatever and get a vaccine shot like I
1:46:19
have the last few years?
1:46:20
The answer is mixed.
1:46:22
So in some states, yes.
1:46:23
And in other states, it's not clear.
1:46:26
And that's because the group has recommended the
1:46:27
vaccine to everybody under something called shared clinical
1:46:30
decision making, which means that patients are supposed
1:46:32
to talk to a medical provider about risks
1:46:34
and benefits before they get one.
1:46:36
But at this point, billions of COVID shots
1:46:38
have been given out.
1:46:39
So this kind of counseling would add a
1:46:41
new hurdle.
1:46:43
So wait a minute.
1:46:44
So they're going to tell you that the
1:46:46
shot is maybe dangerous or it can do
1:46:48
this and that and the other thing, and
1:46:49
that's bad.
1:46:51
But what they've already given, look, Adam, Adam,
1:46:54
Adam, Adam.
1:46:55
Yes, John.
1:46:56
You never call me Adam.
1:46:57
This must be serious.
1:46:59
They've given out a billion shots.
1:47:01
Yeah.
1:47:02
So what's the big deal?
1:47:04
Just keep giving shots out.
1:47:05
What could possibly be wrong with that?
1:47:09
That idea, just you've given a billion out.
1:47:11
Well, I'm sure that Scott asked that very
1:47:14
question in clip number two.
1:47:17
Wrong.
1:47:17
Also, the panel wanted input on what goes
1:47:19
into that counseling.
1:47:21
They voted to add more discussion about theoretical,
1:47:23
theoretical, theoretical, theoretical risks to the vaccine information
1:47:27
sheet.
1:47:28
And Metcalf-Levy, the panel member who led
1:47:29
that discussion, focused on things he said were
1:47:32
unknown.
1:47:33
Do we know all the answers?
1:47:34
No.
1:47:35
Did we hear satisfactory explanations from the companies
1:47:39
and the FDA?
1:47:40
Absolutely no.
1:47:42
Okay.
1:47:43
One thing about that clip, which I emphasize
1:47:45
there.
1:47:46
Yes, I heard it.
1:47:46
Theoretical.
1:47:47
They're going to give you the theoretical risks.
1:47:50
No, these aren't theoretical risks.
1:47:54
No, that's a lie.
1:47:55
These are actual risks.
1:47:56
It's a total lie.
1:47:57
These are documented contraindications and side effects that
1:48:03
have been, they don't make them up.
1:48:05
I mean, if it was anal leakage, you
1:48:07
wouldn't make that up.
1:48:08
You wouldn't put it in.
1:48:09
No, it's not a theoretical risk.
1:48:12
She says she uses a propagandistic term, theoretical
1:48:15
risk.
1:48:16
It's not theoretical.
1:48:18
Take away their license.
1:48:20
Oh, you know, now think about it.
1:48:24
You could do that with NPR stations.
1:48:27
I'm going to start to complain.
1:48:28
Yes, write a letter.
1:48:29
So that information sheet for consumers could go
1:48:32
from one that summarizes the most important documented
1:48:35
side effects of the COVID vaccine.
1:48:37
Things like fevers, body aches, a rare risks,
1:48:39
a rare risks, a rare risk of heart
1:48:41
problems for young men to one that includes
1:48:43
a lot of speculation, speculation, speculation, which could
1:48:46
confuse people and dissuade them from getting vaccinated.
1:48:49
Okay.
1:48:50
So that's clearly the headline here, but I'm
1:48:51
wondering what else was on the table.
1:48:53
Hold on a second.
1:48:53
What is her name again?
1:48:55
I need to look her up now.
1:48:56
What is her name?
1:48:57
Oh, she, they said it at the very
1:48:58
beginning.
1:48:59
Robert F.
1:49:00
Kennedy Jr. has promised to change the country's
1:49:02
vaccine policies.
1:49:04
And during contentious meetings in Atlanta this week,
1:49:06
vaccine advisors for the Centers for Disease Control
1:49:08
and Prevention began to do.
1:49:10
Picked by Kennedy.
1:49:11
NPR health correspondent, Ping Wong was.
1:49:13
Ping Wong, Ping Wong.
1:49:16
Penguin.
1:49:19
Goodness.
1:49:19
How do I spell that?
1:49:21
Ping Wong, Ping Wong, Ping Wong, Ping White,
1:49:25
Ping Wong.
1:49:25
I'm not, we're racist.
1:49:26
I can't believe this.
1:49:27
No, you are.
1:49:28
You are not me.
1:49:29
Okay.
1:49:29
It's P-I-N-G, Ping Hong, Ping
1:49:35
Hong.
1:49:36
Okay.
1:49:36
I'll look her up while we play clip
1:49:38
number three.
1:49:38
So that information sheet for consumers could go
1:49:40
from one that summarizes the most important documented
1:49:43
side effects of the COVID vaccine.
1:49:45
Things like fevers, body aches, a rare risks,
1:49:48
a rare risks, a rare risk of heart
1:49:50
problems for young men.
1:49:51
So one that includes a lot of speculation,
1:49:53
speculation, speculation, which could confuse people and dissuade
1:49:56
them from getting vaccinated.
1:49:58
Okay.
1:49:58
So that's clearly the headline here, but I'm
1:50:00
wondering what else was on the table.
1:50:02
So do you think Pen Wong is a
1:50:03
doctor or has some expertise in the medical
1:50:07
field?
1:50:08
Wouldn't that, she is the correspondent here for,
1:50:10
would you not think?
1:50:11
I'm guessing she's a drug salesman.
1:50:13
Let's see.
1:50:16
She joined NPR in 2019 as the newsroom's
1:50:20
first Reflect America fellow, working with shows, desks,
1:50:24
and podcasts to bring more diverse voices to
1:50:28
air and online.
1:50:29
No, she's a diversity hire.
1:50:29
She's a DI hire.
1:50:31
Her reporting with NPR's visuals team on tracking
1:50:35
COVID-19 data won her an Edward R.
1:50:40
Murrow award.
1:50:41
Yeah, we haven't won that.
1:50:43
Her, not yet.
1:50:45
Wong's experiences span categories and continents.
1:50:48
Here we go.
1:50:49
She was the executive producer of Data Made
1:50:51
to Matter, a podcast.
1:50:54
Whoa, there's an Edward R.
1:50:56
Murrow award topic right there, Data Matter.
1:51:01
That's a podcast from the MIT Sloan School
1:51:04
of Management.
1:51:05
And, oh, and she has taught, what do
1:51:09
you think she has taught at Northeastern University?
1:51:13
Communications.
1:51:15
Podcasting.
1:51:16
What?
1:51:17
Yes.
1:51:17
There's a class in podcasting at Northeastern?
1:51:21
Apparently, she has taught podcasting at Northeastern University.
1:51:25
How come I never get these gigs?
1:51:28
How come you weren't contacted by her for
1:51:30
some syllabus information?
1:51:34
Podcasting course, Northwest, I gotta find it.
1:51:37
Northeastern.
1:51:38
Northeastern, oh, well, what's Northeastern University?
1:51:42
Well, I can't wait to see this.
1:51:44
Do they have a, it's a minor.
1:51:46
It's a minor.
1:51:49
But, yes, it's a, so you can get
1:51:51
a minor in podcasting.
1:51:52
You can actually get a degree.
1:51:54
Yes.
1:51:55
Wow, I should get an honorary degree.
1:51:58
I'll do the commencement speech.
1:52:01
In an era of profound disruption for legacy
1:52:03
media, podcasting has emerged as one of the
1:52:05
most durable and successful features of the new
1:52:07
media and information ecosystem.
1:52:10
Listeners, listenership continues to rise with devoted audiences
1:52:13
for long form audio storytelling.
1:52:15
Like, she's doing storytelling right here.
1:52:18
Narrative news, true crime, personality-driven interview shows,
1:52:22
et cetera.
1:52:23
This minor is for students from a variety
1:52:25
of disciplines interested in learning interviewing, performance, research,
1:52:28
and production skills required to create high-quality,
1:52:31
non-fiction audio programs in a variety of
1:52:34
formats.
1:52:35
I'm betting dollars, 10 bucks on the line
1:52:39
with anybody that she credits Adam Carolla with
1:52:44
inventing podcasting.
1:52:50
Ah, yes.
1:52:51
You only need a 2.0 grade average
1:52:53
to get in.
1:52:55
It's typical.
1:52:57
Well, that would be normal for podcasters.
1:53:00
For podcasters, yeah.
1:53:01
Podcast.
1:53:02
We get.
1:53:03
Okay.
1:53:04
All right, clip four.
1:53:06
So there was a proposal to recommend that
1:53:08
states require prescriptions for COVID vaccines, which would
1:53:11
make them much harder for patients to get.
1:53:13
And after a charged discussion on it, it
1:53:15
was defeated.
1:53:16
And the panel also tabled a proposal to
1:53:18
change the hepatitis B vaccine schedule for babies.
1:53:21
Now, some members said that the current policy,
1:53:23
which recommends a shot right after birth, is
1:53:25
working fine, and they saw no reason to
1:53:27
change it.
1:53:28
Now, there was some confusion, and it did
1:53:30
seem at times that members didn't seem to
1:53:32
fully understand how their votes would affect policies
1:53:34
and coverage.
1:53:35
To that point, what is the impact of
1:53:37
these votes?
1:53:38
What do they affect?
1:53:39
This group's recommendations form the basis for which
1:53:41
vaccines are covered by health insurance or subsidized
1:53:44
through federal programs.
1:53:46
And an example of how that works is
1:53:48
to look at the other vote that they
1:53:49
did take on the MMRV vaccine.
1:53:51
That's a combination shot for measles, mumps, rubella,
1:53:54
and chickenpox.
1:53:55
And this vaccine comes with a slightly higher
1:53:58
risk of causing fevers that can lead to
1:54:00
seizures in children under four.
1:54:02
Kids generally recover from them pretty quickly.
1:54:04
What?
1:54:05
Wait a minute.
1:54:08
So a kid under four gets this stupid
1:54:10
shot and they have seizures?
1:54:12
Yeah.
1:54:12
But they recover.
1:54:14
They tend to recover rather quickly.
1:54:15
I don't want my kid having seizures.
1:54:18
Theoretical.
1:54:19
Theoretical seizures.
1:54:20
Not actual seizures.
1:54:21
Just theoretical.
1:54:25
That's unbelievable.
1:54:27
It's completely believable.
1:54:28
So we finish off.
1:54:29
I think we finish off here.
1:54:31
They can also get the same protection from
1:54:33
getting the MMR and the chickenpox shot separately.
1:54:36
So that's how most kids get it.
1:54:38
But up to 15% of parents asked
1:54:40
for the combo shot.
1:54:41
And here's why.
1:54:42
According to pediatrician Cody Meissner, who's the only
1:54:44
member who served on this panel before.
1:54:47
Some parents don't want to administer.
1:54:50
Wait a minute.
1:54:50
I thought they kicked everybody off.
1:54:52
This guy has served on it before.
1:54:54
That's what they said.
1:54:55
They kicked everybody off, put a new group
1:54:57
in, but this guy was there before.
1:54:58
How does that work?
1:54:59
Some parents don't want to administer two doses
1:55:04
of a vaccine if they can receive one
1:55:06
and get the same degree of coverage.
1:55:09
Why are we taking away that option?
1:55:13
This is coverage, access, coverage, access.
1:55:18
We already know the insurance company said they're
1:55:20
going to cover the COVID vaccine.
1:55:22
We had that on the last show.
1:55:24
Yeah.
1:55:24
So this is just more of the same.
1:55:26
CBS had a report about this, which I
1:55:28
have queued up for us.
1:55:29
There was pushback during today's meeting of the
1:55:31
CDC's Vaccine Advisory Committee as the panel debated
1:55:35
a new recommendation for the combined MMRV shot.
1:55:39
But if a parent wants to get a
1:55:42
single dose, why are we taking away that
1:55:45
option?
1:55:46
The same guy, same clip.
1:55:48
Isn't that amazing?
1:55:50
Yeah.
1:55:51
A single dose.
1:55:53
Why are we taking away that option?
1:55:56
The proposal, children under four should get one
1:55:59
shot for measles, mumps, and rubella, and then
1:56:01
a separate one for varicella, better known as
1:56:04
chicken pox.
1:56:05
This recommendation is going to create more confusion
1:56:08
among the public.
1:56:09
Earlier this year.
1:56:12
I'm confused.
1:56:14
It's not that hard.
1:56:16
Separate one for varicella, better known as chicken
1:56:19
pox.
1:56:19
This recommendation is going to create more confusion
1:56:22
among the public.
1:56:24
Earlier this year, Health and Human Services Secretary
1:56:26
Robert F.
1:56:27
Kennedy Jr. fired all the panel members and
1:56:30
picked their replacements, some who share his vaccine
1:56:33
skepticism.
1:56:34
Thursday, the committee chairman defended the new group.
1:56:38
You have falsely been called anti-vaxxers, but
1:56:40
your stance is not only pro-children, but
1:56:44
also pro-science, pro-public health, and pro
1:56:48
-vaccines.
1:56:49
Here on Capitol Hill, the fired CDC director
1:56:52
told lawmakers she was pressured by Secretary Kennedy
1:56:55
to rubber stamp the committee's recommendations without first
1:56:59
considering the scientific evidence.
1:57:01
He just wanted blanket approval.
1:57:03
The panel is also debating changes to the
1:57:05
hepatitis B vaccine recommendation.
1:57:08
Much of the data is considered pretty settled.
1:57:11
Dr. Jodi Guest is the senior vice chair
1:57:13
of the Department of Epidemiology.
1:57:15
She said most of the data is pretty
1:57:17
settled.
1:57:18
Listen to that again.
1:57:19
Fake evidence.
1:57:20
He just wanted blanket approval.
1:57:22
The panel is also- Hold on, I
1:57:24
don't want to hear it again.
1:57:26
Pro-public health and pro-vaccines.
1:57:29
Here on Capitol Hill, the fired CDC director
1:57:32
told lawmakers she was pressured by Secretary Kennedy
1:57:35
to rubber stamp the committee's recommendations without first
1:57:39
considering the scientific evidence.
1:57:41
He just wanted blanket approval.
1:57:43
The panel is also debating changes to the
1:57:45
hepatitis B vaccine recommendation.
1:57:48
Much of the data is considered pretty settled.
1:57:51
Dr. Jodi- What does that mean?
1:57:54
The data is settled?
1:57:58
Most of the data.
1:58:00
Is considered pretty settled?
1:58:02
Yeah, that's a vague thing.
1:58:03
You know, by the way, they're defending this
1:58:06
woman.
1:58:07
They should be playing- I don't have
1:58:08
the clips, but I could go back and
1:58:10
get them.
1:58:11
Rand Paul grilled her in front of Congress,
1:58:14
and she's an idiot.
1:58:16
He just wanted blanket approval.
1:58:18
The panel is also debating changes to the
1:58:20
hepatitis B vaccine recommendation.
1:58:23
Much of the data is considered pretty settled.
1:58:26
Dr. Jodi Guest is the senior vice chair
1:58:29
of the Department of Epidemiology at Emory University.
1:58:32
She says these vaccines are safe and effective.
1:58:36
And there's not new evidence out there that
1:58:38
we have been following.
1:58:40
There's not new evidence out there that we
1:58:43
have been following.
1:58:44
Is this woman a lawyer?
1:58:46
So there may be evidence out there, but
1:58:49
we're not following it.
1:58:50
We don't follow them on Twitter.
1:58:51
It would show that you would want to
1:58:52
change the guidance.
1:58:54
Dr. Guest also warns- That is-
1:58:56
that is- wow, I can't believe that.
1:58:58
So there is evidence out there, but we're
1:59:01
not following it, so we don't make any
1:59:02
changes.
1:59:03
Says these vaccines are safe and effective.
1:59:06
And there's not new evidence out there that
1:59:09
we have been following that would show that
1:59:11
you would want to change the guidance.
1:59:12
Dr. Guest also warns any changes could lead
1:59:15
to health insurance companies limiting coverage.
1:59:18
Ah, no.
1:59:21
No, they want your kids sick.
1:59:24
They want seizures.
1:59:25
Come on.
1:59:26
They're not going to change that.
1:59:27
It's a small investment.
1:59:30
Cover the vax.
1:59:31
Customer for life.
1:59:34
You know, you want to take some wagers
1:59:36
on what the big announcement is on Autism
1:59:39
Monday?
1:59:41
What do you think?
1:59:45
Well, here's what I- It can't be
1:59:47
- okay, so far Kennedy has been thwarted.
1:59:50
At every turn.
1:59:52
And they're still going after him.
1:59:53
And this new panel is useless.
1:59:56
And they're still going to give the kids
1:59:58
the 80 shots or whatever it amounts to.
2:00:00
I think it's- Including the hep B
2:00:01
shot four minutes after they're born, which is
2:00:04
ludicrous.
2:00:06
That was in the clip as well.
2:00:07
It's on the table.
2:00:09
I'm guessing they're going to come up with
2:00:11
nothing.
2:00:12
The big announcement is going to be something
2:00:16
that's inconsequential.
2:00:17
We'll give every child a gold card?
2:00:22
Well, obviously, from what we've been looking at
2:00:27
since the discredited report- What's the-
2:00:32
Research.
2:00:33
Discredited research from Andrew- What was his
2:00:37
name again?
2:00:39
The- I don't know.
2:00:42
Weizenhut now.
2:00:46
Vaccine.
2:00:47
Let me ask the bot.
2:00:50
Hold on a second.
2:00:52
Who was the scientist who did research that
2:00:54
proved autism was caused by vaccines, but was
2:00:58
discredited?
2:01:06
Well, that sucks.
2:01:08
Should we try it again?
2:01:09
Who was the scientist who did a research
2:01:12
survey that showed that vaccines cause autism and
2:01:16
was discredited, disbarred, and thrown out of society?
2:01:23
That'd be Andrew Wakefield.
2:01:24
Yes.
2:01:25
Okay.
2:01:25
Thank you.
2:01:26
Long way to go, Wakefield.
2:01:29
Wakefield.
2:01:31
Okay.
2:01:33
That's what I would be hoping because at
2:01:35
least millions of parents would have an answer
2:01:39
and we could have a lot of lawsuits.
2:01:42
That's the problem right there.
2:01:45
Well, maybe it's not.
2:01:46
Maybe it's a benefit if we can sue
2:01:47
a lot of these companies.
2:01:49
Well, I would be, yeah.
2:01:51
Also, if they just take these advertisers off
2:01:53
the air, that would help.
2:01:54
So they don't own the media.
2:01:56
They're going to have to do four minute
2:01:57
ads.
2:01:59
Four minute ads, which would be funny.
2:02:01
Yeah.
2:02:02
Because everyone would be like, oh, these ads
2:02:04
suck.
2:02:04
This medication sucks.
2:02:06
I don't want all that because you have
2:02:08
to have all of the side effects in
2:02:11
the ad.
2:02:14
That would be good.
2:02:16
Okay.
2:02:16
So I got the clips.
2:02:17
How much time do we have before we
2:02:19
go to a break?
2:02:20
Well, it depends.
2:02:20
What's your topic?
2:02:21
Well, there's a lot of clips here.
2:02:23
This is the clips you wanted from Matt
2:02:24
Gaetz's show where the guy who's embedded with
2:02:27
the Russian army goes on and on about
2:02:30
how Ukraine is not what we think it
2:02:32
is.
2:02:33
And this may be a piece of pure
2:02:35
propaganda.
2:02:36
I think we should do it.
2:02:37
I think we should do it now.
2:02:39
It could be a piece of propaganda.
2:02:41
It turns out I mentioned in the last
2:02:43
show and I got a couple of notes
2:02:44
mentioning other people, I guess, that have been
2:02:46
embedded in the Russian army that are Western
2:02:48
reporters and they're, I don't know who they
2:02:51
are.
2:02:51
I never heard of them.
2:02:52
This guy here is somewhat obscure as far
2:02:55
as I can tell.
2:02:56
I don't know if these reports are accurate.
2:02:58
Yeah, the disclaimer is clear.
2:02:59
It's hypothetical embeddedness.
2:03:02
I have no idea, but I think it's
2:03:03
definitely worth listening to.
2:03:05
And Matt Gaetz, a former congressman, is not
2:03:06
a dumb idiot.
2:03:09
No.
2:03:10
And so the fact that he's got this
2:03:11
guy on, his name's Pearson Sharp.
2:03:14
Spook name.
2:03:16
It's a spook name.
2:03:17
Is he even Brit?
2:03:19
No, but now you mentioned the spook name.
2:03:21
He has certain characteristics as possible, and he
2:03:23
has a kind of a spook joke at
2:03:26
the beginning of his presentation.
2:03:27
You'll hear it.
2:03:28
OAN investigative reporter Pearson Sharp, host of the
2:03:31
Sharp Report here on One America News, has
2:03:33
traveled to the front lines.
2:03:34
He's spent time with the troops fighting this
2:03:37
war, and he joins us now from Russia.
2:03:39
Pearson, first of all, it's good to see
2:03:41
you safe and sound.
2:03:42
It looked from some of the snippets of
2:03:44
your reporting, I was able to see that
2:03:46
you were pretty close to the front lines
2:03:49
and the fighting.
2:03:50
Tell us where you are and what you
2:03:52
have learned about this war from your reporting
2:03:55
and your journalism.
2:03:56
First, I'd like to read this pre-prepared
2:03:58
speech from my KGB handler.
2:04:01
I'm kidding.
2:04:02
Listen to this about Pearson Sharp from his
2:04:06
own website.
2:04:07
As a privacy junkie, I'm slowly getting rid
2:04:09
of my social media accounts.
2:04:13
Yeah, as a spook, that's what you do.
2:04:15
All right, good joke about the KGB.
2:04:17
All right.
2:04:18
Of course, if it was updated joke, it'd
2:04:20
be FSB, but he uses KGB because that's
2:04:22
a reference we all know.
2:04:24
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
2:04:25
FSB would be no good.
2:04:26
I agree.
2:04:27
Yeah, no one would get it.
2:04:28
But that's what it should be if he's
2:04:30
going to have be reading a prepared statement.
2:04:32
OK, so that was funny.
2:04:33
OK, so now I've got OK, the guy
2:04:35
has a sense of humor.
2:04:36
So here we go.
2:04:38
We're here in Nizhny Novgorod, and it's about
2:04:41
a four hour train ride east of Moscow.
2:04:45
And this is where some of the drone
2:04:46
attacks have been happening.
2:04:47
They've installed some jammers in the area to
2:04:50
block signal because they're trying to keep the
2:04:52
drones from attacking the military targets.
2:04:55
But in any case, this past week, we
2:04:57
were down in Donbass, which is a large
2:05:00
region down near Ukraine.
2:05:03
And we were in Donetsk.
2:05:06
We went to Mariupol.
2:05:07
We went to the Azovstal steel plant.
2:05:13
We went to a couple of other small
2:05:15
towns that have just been absolutely decimated by
2:05:18
the fighting.
2:05:19
And being down here has been incredibly eye
2:05:22
opening as far as the kinds of people
2:05:26
that you meet, the kinds of things you
2:05:27
see that just destroy the Western narrative about
2:05:32
what's happening here and what life is actually
2:05:34
like in Russia, really.
2:05:38
How are people dealing with all of the
2:05:39
death?
2:05:40
I mean, that's a very difficult question to
2:05:43
answer.
2:05:43
How does anyone deal with the death?
2:05:46
The people here are living their lives as
2:05:48
best they can.
2:05:49
Donbass has been the center of a lot
2:05:52
of the fighting.
2:05:53
And we went to Donetsk, which was the
2:05:56
front line of the war for quite a
2:05:59
while.
2:05:59
It's now moved quite a bit west from
2:06:01
there.
2:06:02
But the people have tried to integrate the
2:06:06
war into their lives the best that they
2:06:08
can.
2:06:10
John, I got to tell you, this guy
2:06:11
is definitely a spook.
2:06:13
He has no bio, no wiki page.
2:06:17
OAN has...
2:06:18
Pearson Sharp grew up in a small farming
2:06:20
town in central Ohio.
2:06:21
He moved to Colorado for school, where he
2:06:23
attended the University of Colorado in Boulder, studying
2:06:26
English and creative writing, I'll say.
2:06:31
There's nothing on this guy.
2:06:32
So there's no profile at all, which is
2:06:34
like one of the earmarks.
2:06:36
Yes.
2:06:36
On his own page, I'm a show host
2:06:39
and foreign correspondent.
2:06:41
I cover international conflicts from the migration crisis.
2:06:45
So you spotted it immediately with his name.
2:06:47
That's a spook name.
2:06:48
That's a total spook name.
2:06:49
All right.
2:06:50
Well, good.
2:06:50
Okay, so let's assume he's a spook, which
2:06:53
is good to know.
2:06:55
We don't know who he's working for.
2:06:58
And what's the point of this?
2:06:59
Because the point of this is there's got
2:07:01
to be something going on here.
2:07:05
Tell me it's in this clip three.
2:07:07
I think it's in clip four.
2:07:09
Okay.
2:07:09
We went to a park in Donetsk, and
2:07:14
it was a memorial park.
2:07:16
They had a little shrine there for the
2:07:19
children that have been killed by the Ukrainian
2:07:22
shelling.
2:07:23
And so far, the running count just in
2:07:25
Donetsk, not all of Donbass, but just in
2:07:27
Donetsk is 257 children that have been killed
2:07:32
from Ukrainian shelling.
2:07:35
And it was called the Alley of Angels.
2:07:36
And it was very powerful.
2:07:39
Oh, that sounds horrendous.
2:07:41
And it certainly animates President Trump's efforts to
2:07:45
try to end this war and end the
2:07:47
killing.
2:07:48
Little children should not be dying because of
2:07:51
this type of geopolitics.
2:07:53
It's a tragedy.
2:07:55
Pierson, we've seen photos of you interacting with
2:07:59
the people who are fighting this war.
2:08:02
What can you tell us about those people?
2:08:04
So we actually got to visit some of
2:08:06
the troops who are fighting for the Russians
2:08:10
against the Ukrainians.
2:08:11
And the incredible part was that these aren't
2:08:14
Russian soldiers.
2:08:15
These are Ukrainians.
2:08:17
And they've decided to join with Russia and
2:08:20
fight against the Ukrainian regime, as they call
2:08:22
it.
2:08:22
And when I asked them how they felt
2:08:26
about fighting against fellow Ukrainians and, you know,
2:08:30
are they fighting for Russia now?
2:08:32
Do they want to see Russia win?
2:08:33
They say, we're not fighting for Russia.
2:08:35
We're fighting to free Ukraine.
2:08:37
And I think that says a lot about
2:08:39
the mindset of the people here.
2:08:41
They don't think that Ukraine is free right
2:08:43
now.
2:08:43
The Ukrainians living there don't think that it's
2:08:45
free.
2:08:46
And these people, the soldiers that I spoke
2:08:48
with, none of them joined the army willingly.
2:08:51
They were grabbed off of the streets, thrown
2:08:54
into vans and forced to fight.
2:08:56
One of them was a university student.
2:08:59
And he was trying to get his doctorate
2:09:00
because apparently there's some kind of loophole that
2:09:02
once you get your doctorate, you don't have
2:09:04
to fight.
2:09:05
And so he was literally at his desk
2:09:07
at school.
2:09:08
And the henchmen came in and dragged him
2:09:11
out, kicking and screaming, and threw him into
2:09:13
a van.
2:09:14
Suddenly you're in the army now.
2:09:15
So he was in the Ukrainian army, but
2:09:17
then switched sides and joined the Russian side
2:09:20
of the fight?
2:09:22
And joined the Russians.
2:09:23
Yes.
2:09:23
Wow.
2:09:23
To fight against the Lenin.
2:09:27
Now, the interesting little factor there was the
2:09:30
fact that Gates heard the interview going in
2:09:35
the wrong direction.
2:09:36
He adjusted it because it was not clear
2:09:39
what was going on.
2:09:41
And so the guy was, so he's been
2:09:44
conscripted out of school, right out of his
2:09:47
classroom before he got his PhD and ended
2:09:49
up, this is one of those, this didn't
2:09:51
happen stories.
2:09:55
But there's a message here about this whole
2:09:57
thing that is through Gates that's being done
2:10:01
for some purpose or other.
2:10:02
And I thought it was definitely worth, I
2:10:04
mean, I didn't play it on the last
2:10:05
show, but I think it's probably worth listening
2:10:09
to.
2:10:10
We went to a park in Donetsk, and
2:10:15
it was a memorial park.
2:10:17
They had a little shrine there for the
2:10:20
children that have been killed.
2:10:22
Oh, I'm sorry.
2:10:24
I cued up the same one twice.
2:10:25
My apologies.
2:10:27
Wow.
2:10:28
Conscription may not be all it's cracked up
2:10:30
to be.
2:10:31
If that type of...
2:10:32
No, the soldiers, they said they don't want
2:10:34
to fight for Zelensky.
2:10:36
They don't, they called it the regime.
2:10:37
They don't want to fight for him.
2:10:38
And I asked them, this is your opinion,
2:10:42
of course, the troops here, but what about
2:10:45
the rest of the Ukrainians?
2:10:46
How do they feel about this?
2:10:47
And they said, no one wants to fight
2:10:49
for Zelensky.
2:10:50
No one sees him as legitimate.
2:10:51
They all think that he's an illegitimate ruler
2:10:53
who's been propped up in place and is
2:10:55
basically a dictator at this point.
2:10:57
And no Ukrainians want this war to continue.
2:11:00
They all want it to end.
2:11:01
Hmm.
2:11:03
Well, he was born in London, I've found.
2:11:08
Attended University College London, the Dragon School of
2:11:11
Oxford.
2:11:12
What's the Dragon School?
2:11:13
I don't know.
2:11:14
I've been to Oxford and I haven't seen
2:11:16
that school.
2:11:16
It's like some kind of Hogwarts.
2:11:20
Winchester College, Trinity College, Cambridge.
2:11:23
No, that can't be right.
2:11:25
That's, this is...
2:11:27
It's got to be a different guy.
2:11:28
That's error.
2:11:29
That's error.
2:11:29
Making errors.
2:11:30
I can't be right for the guy.
2:11:32
Well, yeah, the conscription, I mean, this video
2:11:35
is on Telegram of people being dragged off
2:11:38
the street, thrown into vans all the time.
2:11:41
That's been going on for the entire, you
2:11:44
know, three years of the war.
2:11:48
So, yeah.
2:11:51
We're not getting good information one way or
2:11:53
the other.
2:11:54
No, no, we're not.
2:11:55
Well, then we'll go into our break here
2:11:58
with the latest news from Europe.
2:11:59
Brussels airport is the worst affected by this
2:12:04
outage and there's real scenes of chaos at
2:12:06
the airport.
2:12:06
Lots of flights cancelled, lots of flights delayed.
2:12:09
The airport is telling people don't come unless
2:12:11
you have it confirmed that your flight is
2:12:13
actually taking off because the agents are having
2:12:17
to do things manually because that system software
2:12:20
that processes ticket check-in and luggage check
2:12:24
-in is offline.
2:12:26
So this is different than when you would
2:12:28
have, let's say, an outage for air traffic
2:12:31
control because that means the planes literally can't
2:12:33
take off.
2:12:34
This can be solved by surging staff over
2:12:36
to the airport to be able to process
2:12:38
all the check-ins manually.
2:12:40
So I'm told they are trying to do
2:12:41
that.
2:12:42
There's a number of other airports affected as
2:12:44
well.
2:12:45
London Heathrow and Berlin airport, Berlin Brandenburg airport,
2:12:48
for instance, they are also seeing these scenes
2:12:51
of check-in agents having to manually check
2:12:55
people in, which is obviously slowing things down.
2:12:59
But this is very worrying if this is
2:13:01
indeed a cyber attack, which the evidence is
2:13:03
pointing to right now, because Collins Aerospace is
2:13:07
a very, very big company.
2:13:09
It manages airport check-in across the world.
2:13:14
And especially worryingly, it's also a defense company.
2:13:18
So the fact that it could have been
2:13:20
subject to this kind of cyber attack is
2:13:22
very worrying.
2:13:23
But transport sector analysts that I've talked to
2:13:26
over the past months have said they've been
2:13:28
worried about something like this because these types
2:13:31
of services that can shut down multiple airports
2:13:34
with just one attack are a very tempting
2:13:37
target.
2:13:38
Now, I think this is a hit job
2:13:40
from a competing company because every single news
2:13:44
report had the same payoff.
2:13:46
Oh, it's Collins.
2:13:47
You know, Collins, a major defense contractor, very,
2:13:51
very worrying.
2:13:52
Collins.
2:13:52
And where does it hit?
2:13:53
Brussels.
2:13:55
Brussels.
2:13:56
Brussels, where all of the European muckety-mucks
2:13:59
live and work.
2:14:01
I'm not going to argue that at all.
2:14:02
I think it could even be Microsoft.
2:14:07
Microsoft doing it because they're not using Windows
2:14:10
on these systems in Europe that they're talking
2:14:12
about.
2:14:13
They're talking about somebody else's software.
2:14:15
I mean, it's not beyond the pale because
2:14:18
back in the day during the OS-2
2:14:22
era— Oh, what a great OS that was.
2:14:26
During the OS-2 era, when they came
2:14:29
out with a version called—and they made the
2:14:32
claim IBM did that.
2:14:33
Didn't you write a book about it?
2:14:35
I did.
2:14:36
Wow.
2:14:37
One of my 27 books that I've done.
2:14:40
Instant bestseller.
2:14:41
What was the scripting language called again?
2:14:44
Oh, I forgot.
2:14:45
That's what was so appealing.
2:14:47
First of all, it was— It had a
2:14:47
nice scripting language, there's no doubt about it.
2:14:49
But I didn't even finish the story.
2:14:51
So during the—when they came out with crash—it
2:14:54
was called the warp version of the OS
2:14:56
-2 warp.
2:14:56
Warp, OS-2 warp.
2:14:58
Crash-proof, crash-proof.
2:15:00
So Steve Ballmer would go into the IBM
2:15:02
booth with a disk and just stick it
2:15:04
in any random computer and crash it.
2:15:08
And he did this.
2:15:09
It was a big joke amongst everybody there.
2:15:11
Ballmer would pull the stunt.
2:15:15
That's a— Classic Microsoft.
2:15:16
I don't put it past Microsoft to do
2:15:17
stuff like that to this day.
2:15:19
Classic.
2:15:20
Rex.
2:15:22
Rex.
2:15:22
Yeah, Rex.
2:15:25
Restructured extended executor.
2:15:29
Wow, man.
2:15:30
I love that.
2:15:31
Yeah, it was supposed to be crash-proof.
2:15:33
That was right before we found out that
2:15:35
if you sent a flood ping to a
2:15:39
a Windows NT computer that it would give
2:15:42
it blue screen of death.
2:15:43
You remember that?
2:15:44
No, I don't remember that.
2:15:45
It was so fun.
2:15:47
You have someone—you see someone across the way
2:15:50
working on a Windows NT, and if you
2:15:53
had his, you know, IP address—we even worked
2:15:55
over the internet.
2:15:56
You could send a flood ping and it
2:15:58
would get blue screen of death.
2:15:59
It was amazing.
2:16:01
It was good times.
2:16:03
Can't do that anymore.
2:16:04
What fun.
2:16:05
Yes, it was super fun.
2:16:06
With that, I want to thank you for
2:16:07
your courage and say in the morning to
2:16:10
you, the man who put the seas in
2:16:11
the coal card.
2:16:12
Say hello to my friend on the other
2:16:14
end.
2:16:14
The one, the only, Mr. John C.
2:16:17
DeMora.
2:16:20
Yeah, well, in the morning, you go see
2:16:21
Adam Curran.
2:16:22
In the morning, you go see Bruce LeGraff
2:16:23
feeding the air subs in the water.
2:16:24
And all the dames and knights out there.
2:16:26
In the morning, to the trolls in the
2:16:28
troll room.
2:16:28
Stop moving around.
2:16:29
Let me count you.
2:16:30
There we go.
2:16:32
Oh, 1,982.
2:16:36
That's low, but I think a lot of
2:16:38
people are watching this Charlie Kirk memorial.
2:16:42
You know, I'm going to say something.
2:16:44
And this is, I said, I say these
2:16:46
things and you maybe always, you wishful thinking.
2:16:49
Wishful thinking, I'll say it in advance.
2:16:51
Yes, such as when I said, I think
2:16:53
President Trump can go all the way.
2:16:56
I think this Charlie Kirk murder might spark
2:17:01
a long overdue revival in America.
2:17:09
Hey, four more years, baby.
2:17:11
We'll see.
2:17:12
Four more years.
2:17:12
I love my job and I love what
2:17:14
I do.
2:17:15
The trolls are in the troll room.
2:17:16
You can join them at noagendastream.com or
2:17:20
my preference trollroom.io. And they are there
2:17:25
listening live because they either know it or
2:17:28
they have a modern podcast app.
2:17:31
You know, probably not discussed at Northeastern University.
2:17:35
We have all of the brand new functionality
2:17:39
in the modern podcast apps.
2:17:40
Not that legacy Apple thing or certainly not
2:17:43
Spotify.
2:17:44
We are not even on Spotify.
2:17:46
We refuse to be on Spotify.
2:17:47
It hasn't hurt us.
2:17:49
Instead, we're on all those modern podcast apps.
2:17:51
We have chapters.
2:17:52
We got transcripts.
2:17:53
We had all kinds of cool thingamabobs, including
2:17:55
when we go live, which we do on
2:17:57
Thursdays and Sundays, we send out the bat
2:17:59
signal.
2:18:00
Your podcast app will tell you that you
2:18:01
can listen live.
2:18:02
You can listen live to us in the
2:18:03
podcast app.
2:18:04
It's like on demand and live.
2:18:06
And when we publish it, your modern podcast
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app will let you know within 90 seconds
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why deal with any other podcast app, podcastapps
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.com.
2:18:16
18 years in October, we just celebrate 1800
2:18:19
episodes.
2:18:21
18 years, a long time.
2:18:22
And we've been doing it value for value,
2:18:24
which means we are the true essence of
2:18:28
free speech because they're free, free because we're
2:18:32
not selling anything.
2:18:33
All we want is for you to consider
2:18:36
if you got any value out of the
2:18:38
work that we do as a public service
2:18:40
under the guise of free speech, just send
2:18:43
us something back and keep us going for
2:18:45
more years.
2:18:46
One of the ways you can help is
2:18:47
by sending us artwork.
2:18:50
There's a lot of things you can do.
2:18:51
NoahGenArtGenerator.com is where we are always hunting
2:18:55
for a piece of art to use for
2:18:57
every single episode.
2:18:58
Every single one is different and often interesting.
2:19:03
But often, you know, we had the big
2:19:05
1800 episode on Thursday.
2:19:10
And, you know, you know, when you get
2:19:12
Darren O'Neill twice in a row, you
2:19:13
know that the art was bad.
2:19:18
Wow.
2:19:19
What is this?
2:19:19
What is this thing with you and Darren?
2:19:21
When you got a feud going?
2:19:22
I got no feud with Darren.
2:19:23
He knows exactly what I'm talking about.
2:19:25
Darren agrees.
2:19:26
Like, yeah, that's crazy.
2:19:27
I can't believe that I typed in.
2:19:29
Give me a road sign with No Agenda
2:19:32
Way, 1800, No Agenda Way and Curry Dvorak
2:19:34
at an intersection.
2:19:37
OK, AI, go.
2:19:39
That's all he did.
2:19:40
I think he's doing more.
2:19:42
I think he's doing something to brighten up
2:19:44
his images because his images have none.
2:19:46
He pays attention.
2:19:47
That's one guy in the group that pays
2:19:49
attention.
2:19:50
And you bitch and moan and bitch and
2:19:52
moan and complain and complain and complain about
2:19:54
the orange nature of a lot of these
2:19:56
images.
2:19:57
And all it takes is just a quick
2:19:58
shot and, you know, put it in Photoshop
2:20:00
and take the orange shot.
2:20:02
Boom.
2:20:02
This is true.
2:20:03
This is true.
2:20:04
Is he the only guy that pays attention
2:20:06
to that?
2:20:06
I noticed it.
2:20:08
Well, Darren's wife works and he just stays
2:20:11
at home, podcasts.
2:20:12
No, he's a home dad.
2:20:16
As far as I understand.
2:20:18
Hey, I'm happy.
2:20:19
He's our pre-show guy.
2:20:20
Darren's rock and roll pre-show is important.
2:20:23
It riles everybody up, gets them all ready.
2:20:25
You know, there's always a Ted Nugent song
2:20:28
played.
2:20:29
He used to play Taylor Swift all the
2:20:31
time.
2:20:31
He stopped doing that.
2:20:32
Yeah, it's a good thing he stopped.
2:20:34
Too many complaints.
2:20:35
So we were looking for, we always like
2:20:36
to go pretty traditional, something with 1800 on
2:20:39
it.
2:20:41
And pretty much everybody failed.
2:20:43
Yeah, we had a lot of 1800 Cuervos.
2:20:47
We had a bunch of rando women.
2:20:51
We liked the 1800 Cuervos, but it was
2:20:53
all too small.
2:20:55
You couldn't read it.
2:20:56
And the one that we liked, like Curry
2:20:59
DeVore, like, okay.
2:21:01
Servant.
2:21:02
Let me see.
2:21:02
Where are all these?
2:21:03
They scroll down to the next page.
2:21:06
Next page.
2:21:07
Hold on.
2:21:07
There's a lot of art, of course.
2:21:09
But we should just integrate an LLM in
2:21:12
this thing already.
2:21:14
So we liked, I like Matthew Dropko, but
2:21:17
it was too small.
2:21:19
You like the, I really like Nico Symes.
2:21:22
But again, it was too small.
2:21:24
And yeah, you like the Darren with the
2:21:27
two glasses, but you see Adam Curry, John
2:21:30
C.
2:21:30
Dvorak on the glass.
2:21:31
You couldn't read it from the event.
2:21:32
I couldn't read it at all.
2:21:33
At all.
2:21:36
The people, you know, this is the problem
2:21:38
with AI.
2:21:39
They go, it's so easy to make art,
2:21:40
but people don't pay attention to anything anymore.
2:21:43
So we have to call you out on
2:21:46
the things you're doing wrong.
2:21:48
But maybe once it's created, you know, it's
2:21:50
very hard to, it's very hard to tell
2:21:53
the model, change this, change that.
2:21:56
It screws everything up.
2:21:58
Honorary mention, though, for Matthew Dropko.
2:22:01
The Cory Booker clutching his pearls was dynamite.
2:22:04
Oh, yes.
2:22:04
That was hilarious.
2:22:06
Of course, he has eight fingers on one
2:22:08
hand.
2:22:08
That's a minor problem.
2:22:11
Gee, that's not AI.
2:22:12
What?
2:22:13
You're using one of the older models, Matthew.
2:22:15
He literally has one, two, three, four, five,
2:22:18
six fingers.
2:22:19
Very nice.
2:22:20
Very interesting.
2:22:22
One, two, three, four, five, six.
2:22:22
And they're all bent, bent and warped, which
2:22:26
is OK, but that's probably what the AI
2:22:28
thought clutching looked like.
2:22:31
Yeah, but we were going to pick something
2:22:34
that said it definitely had 1800 on it.
2:22:37
So yeah, of course, of course.
2:22:38
Well, maybe, but that was a it was
2:22:40
a funny idea.
2:22:41
Yeah, that was poorly, too many fingers, poorly
2:22:46
timed, too many fingers.
2:22:48
Exactly.
2:22:49
But we appreciate the effort.
2:22:50
You prompt jockeys, you've pretty much chased away
2:22:54
every single actual artist.
2:22:56
It's too bad.
2:22:57
I'm going to do the same with end
2:22:58
of show mixes.
2:22:59
It's all happening.
2:23:00
It's all here.
2:23:00
Yeah, you can see it coming down Broadway.
2:23:02
Yeah, you can fight against all you want.
2:23:04
But like that, that mix that we have
2:23:06
coming up is a good mix.
2:23:07
About the No Agenda Nights and the Dames
2:23:09
is a good mix.
2:23:10
You can't fight it.
2:23:11
It's a good mix.
2:23:12
Boy, you can fight it.
2:23:14
I tried.
2:23:15
I've given up.
2:23:17
Like we because I have nothing else.
2:23:19
Everyone's like, oh, man, it's like too much
2:23:21
work.
2:23:22
You just throw it in the air.
2:23:23
It's too much work.
2:23:25
This is the laziness thing we brought up
2:23:27
earlier in the show.
2:23:29
Well, it's like a theme in the country.
2:23:31
Let me ask you this.
2:23:32
If we could do this show with AI
2:23:34
and not have to show up and just
2:23:36
make it happen, press a button, do some
2:23:38
prompts like, OK, talk about the gold card.
2:23:43
Talk about free speech versus freedom of speech.
2:23:47
If we did like 50 lines of prompting
2:23:50
and the show did itself, would we just
2:23:53
stay in bed?
2:23:55
If it was as good as it could
2:23:57
be, if it was as good as the
2:23:58
real show, I would.
2:24:00
But it's never going to be.
2:24:01
That's the problem.
2:24:02
I mean, AI is creeping into everything, but
2:24:04
it's not creeping into certain things it can't
2:24:08
do.
2:24:08
For one thing, the personality of AI sucks.
2:24:11
It stinks.
2:24:12
It's got no voice, no personality.
2:24:15
It's flat, soulless.
2:24:17
Bemrose says these lazy AI images is just
2:24:20
value for value.
2:24:23
Very rude, Sir Bemrose.
2:24:25
Very rude.
2:24:27
Yeah.
2:24:28
Anyway, it doesn't matter.
2:24:30
We still have a piece of art, but
2:24:32
take some pride in your work, people.
2:24:34
Get rid of the orange, lighten it up,
2:24:37
make your blacks blacks, your whites whites, and
2:24:40
check the fingers.
2:24:43
Check your fingers.
2:24:44
Of course, we always thank people who support
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us with monetary value, $50 and above.
2:24:49
We always want to mention them and thank
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2:24:56
It's the only income we generate.
2:24:57
No tote bags, no hats.
2:25:00
How many I heard NPR?
2:25:01
NPR like, you know, if you only give
2:25:04
us $25, we'll send you a hat.
2:25:09
It's like they don't understand value for value.
2:25:13
Do you think that Democrat listeners, that they
2:25:16
just are stingy?
2:25:18
What do you think?
2:25:18
They had a matching donation, a $15,000
2:25:21
matching donation the other day for On the
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Media.
2:25:27
Stingy.
2:25:28
Which reminds me, I got a note here.
2:25:33
Hold on, where's my note?
2:25:35
I got a note here from one of
2:25:37
our producers.
2:25:39
And this is, hold on, this is producer
2:25:42
Nate.
2:25:45
Nate says, ITM Adam, I've been listening since
2:25:48
your first rogan appearance and haven't missed a
2:25:50
show since.
2:25:51
I love the work you two do.
2:25:53
I could go on, but I'll try to
2:25:54
get to the brass tacks.
2:25:55
I am regrettably a douchebag as I haven't
2:25:58
donated once.
2:25:58
Well, it's free speech.
2:25:59
What do you expect?
2:26:00
But I have hit several people in the
2:26:02
mouth.
2:26:02
During show 1800, you mentioned having some challenge
2:26:05
coins made for the Rubbleizer donation.
2:26:08
Finally, an opportunity to add value back to
2:26:10
the show enters my mind.
2:26:12
I have very close friends who operate a
2:26:14
third-generation family-owned casting company that does
2:26:19
small and large batch castings.
2:26:22
Locally, the business provides medals and trophies for
2:26:25
schools, as well as custom commissions for anything
2:26:27
from belt buckles to shirt pins.
2:26:30
Made in America, baby.
2:26:31
They also have made tons of merch for
2:26:34
basically any band you can think of that
2:26:36
has been big since your MTV days.
2:26:38
I would gladly pay for the commission and
2:26:40
materials required for the first 33 challenge coins
2:26:43
and mail them to you, either you or
2:26:45
John, once they're done.
2:26:47
I'm not an artist, however, so I would
2:26:48
need someone to render an image for the
2:26:50
coins.
2:26:51
If you're interested, feel free to respond anytime.
2:26:54
Much love and keep up the good work.
2:26:56
Well, that's a beautiful offer.
2:26:59
That's great value for value.
2:27:00
All we need now is a beautiful design.
2:27:03
What do we need for that?
2:27:04
You like a high-end?
2:27:06
No, I think we should just give it
2:27:08
to Paul into doing it.
2:27:10
He did the original challenge coin, still one
2:27:12
of the best.
2:27:13
You don't want to use Made in America
2:27:15
by Nate for free?
2:27:17
No, no.
2:27:18
I'm talking about the design of the coin,
2:27:22
not the manufacturing of the coin.
2:27:24
Oh, OK.
2:27:24
Well, Paul doesn't even listen anymore.
2:27:27
Well, he would probably perk up if I
2:27:29
told him we need a new design for
2:27:30
a new challenge coin.
2:27:31
He'd come up with something.
2:27:33
Well, tell him.
2:27:33
Tell him.
2:27:33
I will.
2:27:34
Yeah, please tell him.
2:27:35
And then we can pass the information on
2:27:36
to Jay, and she can coordinate the whole
2:27:38
thing.
2:27:39
OK, excellent.
2:27:39
Hey, we have staff.
2:27:41
I love it.
2:27:43
Yeah, so we have a workflow, I figured
2:27:46
out.
2:27:46
It's called Workflow.
2:27:48
We have Workflow.
2:27:50
We have Workflow.
2:27:51
Woo!
2:27:51
Everybody, we got Workflow.
2:27:53
Thank you very much, Brandon Mango from Midland,
2:27:56
Pennsylvania.
2:27:57
And we always have special titles for our
2:27:59
top donors for each show, although any amount,
2:28:02
any time.
2:28:03
We love it all, and we appreciate it.
2:28:04
It's value for value, so the value is
2:28:06
only something you can determine.
2:28:08
And Brandon thinks it's very valuable what we
2:28:11
do.
2:28:12
$1,052.60, which I'm thinking is $1
2:28:15
,000 plus fees.
2:28:17
And he says, any chance y'all can
2:28:19
let me know how much I've donated?
2:28:21
Love you.
2:28:21
Love the show.
2:28:22
I'm sure Jay responded to him.
2:28:24
And for that, he becomes an executive producer.
2:28:26
$300 and above always gets you an executive
2:28:28
producer credit.
2:28:29
$200 and above gets you an associate executive
2:28:31
producer.
2:28:32
And in both instances, we will always read
2:28:34
your note.
2:28:35
And I guess you're going to become a—
2:28:38
wow, he'll become a secretary general today and
2:28:40
tonight.
2:28:40
It's beautiful.
2:28:41
And thank you very much, Brandon.
2:28:43
We appreciate it.
2:28:45
Well, let me stop everything and say no.
2:28:48
What do you mean, no?
2:28:49
We can't tell you how much— The idea
2:28:51
is, the way we do this— No, but
2:28:53
I thought— Okay.
2:28:54
You have to keep your— No, those days—
2:28:56
Years ago, Eric had some mechanism where he
2:28:58
could look at some of the past donations
2:29:01
and come up with a number.
2:29:02
But it's always been on the honor system
2:29:04
regardless.
2:29:05
I just thought that— It's always been on
2:29:06
the honor system.
2:29:07
We want you to keep your own books.
2:29:09
Yes.
2:29:10
Keep your own books, people.
2:29:14
Thank you for saying— And I think people
2:29:15
should be reminded of that.
2:29:16
And that's why I stopped.
2:29:18
I stopped the presses right there.
2:29:20
Yes.
2:29:20
Thank you.
2:29:22
Because most people can figure it out.
2:29:23
You can look at your checkbook or you
2:29:25
can look at your bank.
2:29:26
There's ways of knowing how much money you—
2:29:28
I mean, you better know how much money
2:29:31
you're spending on anything.
2:29:35
You should, yes.
2:29:37
Joshua— What is this?
2:29:39
What do you think?
2:29:40
Coffet?
2:29:41
Coffet?
2:29:42
Coffelt?
2:29:43
Coffet?
2:29:44
Coffelt.
2:29:44
Coffelt.
2:29:45
Coffelt.
2:29:46
Coffelt.
2:29:46
He's in Grove City, Ohio.
2:29:48
And he came in with 51538.
2:29:52
Hi, Tim and John and Adam.
2:29:53
Thank you for your courage.
2:29:54
The assassination of Charlie Kirk has made me
2:29:56
realize that the country is still in dire
2:29:58
need of the service you provide.
2:30:00
Ah, there we go.
2:30:03
I think so, too.
2:30:04
I want to do my part to ensure
2:30:06
that you're able to continue doing what you
2:30:07
do.
2:30:08
For four more years, this is my first
2:30:09
donation.
2:30:10
It needs a de-douching.
2:30:13
You've been de-douched.
2:30:17
If it has not already been claimed, I
2:30:20
would like to be named the Secretary General
2:30:22
of the Unknown Unknowns.
2:30:25
Sounds good to me.
2:30:26
Can I please get some baby-making karma?
2:30:29
And can you play the following clips slash
2:30:32
jingles?
2:30:33
Trump, they're eating the dogs.
2:30:35
John's mac and cheese.
2:30:37
Alex John's...
2:30:39
Durka Durka?
2:30:40
Durka Durka?
2:30:41
Yes.
2:30:42
You know what that is?
2:30:42
I don't know.
2:30:43
Shut up already.
2:30:44
It's science.
2:30:44
And the baby-making karma.
2:30:46
They're eating the dogs.
2:30:49
You slaves can get used to mac and
2:30:51
cheese.
2:30:51
Mac and cheese.
2:30:53
Macaroni and cheap cheddar melted together.
2:30:59
Durka Durka.
2:31:00
Mohammed Jihad.
2:31:01
Durka Durka Durka Durka.
2:31:02
Shut up already.
2:31:04
Science.
2:31:06
You've got...
2:31:10
Karma.
2:31:13
At night, John checks in from Tucson, Arizona.
2:31:17
$343.33. He says he added $10 for
2:31:20
fees.
2:31:20
Not sure how that works.
2:31:21
Next time, I'll write a note and send
2:31:23
the check.
2:31:23
That saves everybody money, John.
2:31:25
ITM Adam and John.
2:31:26
This donation of $333.33 plus fees is
2:31:29
for a birthday wish for Archduchess Kim, Keeper
2:31:32
of the Nutty Fluffers.
2:31:33
She is definitely on the mend, and we
2:31:35
are very happy about that.
2:31:36
Happy birthday, Kim!
2:31:37
All uppercase.
2:31:39
Kim shares her birthday with Bilbo the Frodo.
2:31:42
Please excuse the Lord of the Rings reference.
2:31:44
And the equinox.
2:31:45
That's right.
2:31:46
Today is the equinox.
2:31:47
It is?
2:31:48
Yes, it's the equal daylight and nighttime.
2:31:53
Today is the equinox.
2:31:55
She'll also be 42, so we'll soon have
2:31:58
the answer to life, the universe, and everything.
2:32:01
That's right.
2:32:01
I enjoyed your discussion of drive-thru liquor
2:32:04
stores a few episodes back.
2:32:05
I remember driving through one for a six
2:32:07
-pack while test-driving a car with the
2:32:09
dealer.
2:32:09
Times have certainly changed.
2:32:12
Yes, Kim was a little kid in the
2:32:13
backseat with her sister.
2:32:14
She went ahead and survived my upbringing anyway.
2:32:18
Jingles, F-35 Karma, and screw your freedom.
2:32:21
Screw your freedom.
2:32:24
You've got Karma.
2:32:31
So, Sir Lawrence of Dystopia, who's over here
2:32:35
in Oakland and was at the meetup, came
2:32:36
in with 333.48, the Oakland meetup, and
2:32:40
he had a complaint, which I found somewhat
2:32:43
distressing.
2:32:45
ITM gentlemen, while listening on the Sunday show,
2:32:47
I was horrified to find that my cash
2:32:50
donation was not all there.
2:32:53
Oh no.
2:32:54
If you recall, John, I had the envelope
2:32:56
passed down the table to you.
2:32:59
It was sealed in wax with my No
2:33:01
Agenda Night Ring Signet ring, and I don't
2:33:04
think any of the people there would have
2:33:05
taken it.
2:33:06
I think I got it and probably opened
2:33:08
it.
2:33:08
I'm not sure what was in it, because
2:33:09
you don't tell me here.
2:33:11
I'd taken it.
2:33:15
The cash donations get piled up, and then
2:33:17
obviously this one was somehow forgotten.
2:33:20
Yes.
2:33:21
Unless it was less than 50, which there
2:33:25
were none, so it had to be at
2:33:26
least $100.
2:33:28
So, you take $100, $100 to $100.
2:33:30
Taken as if they were all non-douchebag
2:33:32
No Agenda Americans.
2:33:34
It is possible you may have stopped off
2:33:36
at Club Mallard on the way back from
2:33:38
the Pizzeria Violeta, had a drink, and tipped
2:33:41
the excellent bartender a nice fat tip.
2:33:43
Yeah.
2:33:45
Yeah, that's gonna...
2:33:46
That sounds possible.
2:33:47
I don't think so, no.
2:33:48
But I go straight home.
2:33:49
Uh, or considering my rather poor performance at
2:33:52
my IDFA match the following day, it's possible
2:33:55
I counted twice only to short the best
2:33:58
podcast in the universe.
2:33:59
That ends now.
2:34:01
Congratulations on 18 glorious years, Sir Lawrence of
2:34:05
Dystopia, Baronet of Maxwell Park, Kilo Oscar 6,
2:34:10
Echo Juliet, Echo 73s.
2:34:12
73s, Kilo 5, Alpha Charlie Charlie.
2:34:15
We'll see you on the 2 gigahertz back
2:34:19
channel from Artemis 1.
2:34:23
Joe Grillo, soon-to-be Sir Joseph Lord
2:34:25
of the Central Jersey Swamps, 333.34. Oh,
2:34:29
thank you.
2:34:29
He adds a penny to the jar.
2:34:31
Hey, John and Adam, if someone told me
2:34:33
I would someday donate $1,000 to a
2:34:35
podcast, I would have told them that they
2:34:36
needed their head examined.
2:34:38
Well, I guess I need my head examined
2:34:40
because this third donation of 333.34 puts
2:34:44
me into the knighthood category.
2:34:46
I couldn't possibly ask you to kick in
2:34:48
the penny considering how much bitching John does
2:34:51
about the lackluster donations of late.
2:34:54
There you go.
2:34:56
Please knight me, Sir Joseph Lord of the
2:34:58
Central Jersey Swamps, and if you'd be so
2:35:00
kind, provide some gumbo parmesan and albida beer
2:35:03
for the round table.
2:35:05
We already did this donation.
2:35:06
I think we did too, didn't we?
2:35:08
Yeah.
2:35:09
Did we?
2:35:10
Yeah.
2:35:11
Because albida beer, we got into a big
2:35:13
discussion about it.
2:35:14
But I don't remember.
2:35:15
No, I think this is different.
2:35:17
I do remember him saying what he said
2:35:18
about, I didn't think I'd ever donate $1
2:35:21
,000 to a show.
2:35:23
I don't know how it got on here
2:35:24
twice, but here it is again.
2:35:26
Well, should I just read it just in
2:35:27
case we're wrong?
2:35:27
Yeah, finish it off.
2:35:28
Might as well.
2:35:29
It's there.
2:35:29
Here's the part I don't remember.
2:35:31
If you'd be so kind, provide some gumbo.
2:35:33
That is, I do remember that.
2:35:35
Please mention my band, the Gumbo Goombas.
2:35:39
Yeah, he came in.
2:35:40
This was a letter he had that had
2:35:41
Gumbo Goombas on top.
2:35:42
I read this letter.
2:35:44
All right.
2:35:45
Well.
2:35:45
I don't know how it got unless he
2:35:47
did it again, which is possible because the
2:35:50
original one was a handwritten note.
2:35:52
It wasn't on the spreadsheet.
2:35:55
Hmm.
2:35:56
Well.
2:35:57
But a lot of people do this, by
2:35:59
the way.
2:35:59
Not a lot, a few, a number of
2:36:02
people have done this.
2:36:02
Not enough.
2:36:03
Not enough.
2:36:04
They send in a note that is handwritten
2:36:07
with the check, and then they send in
2:36:09
the same thing somehow through the PayPal.
2:36:12
So I believe he's just getting double publicity,
2:36:15
which is somehow he pulled it off.
2:36:16
Good job.
2:36:17
More power to him, to the Gumbos.
2:36:19
The Goomba Gumbos.
2:36:21
Good job, everybody.
2:36:22
Okay.
2:36:22
Onward.
2:36:24
Okay, now we go to Linda Lupatkin in
2:36:26
Lakewood, Colorado.
2:36:27
No, that's it.
2:36:28
We're done.
2:36:28
No, we're not done.
2:36:32
Kelly and Monica are both in Canada, and
2:36:35
their donations amount to $240 each at least.
2:36:38
Okay.
2:36:38
Yeah, in Canadian.
2:36:40
Yes.
2:36:40
Okay.
2:36:40
All right.
2:36:41
Go for Linda.
2:36:42
Linda says Jobs Karma.
2:36:44
For a competitive edge with a resume that
2:36:46
gets results, go to ImageMakersInc.com.
2:36:48
For all your executive resume and job search
2:36:52
needs, that's ImageMakersInc with a K, and work
2:36:54
with Linda Lou, Duchess of Jobs, and writer
2:36:57
of winning resumes.
2:36:59
Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.
2:37:02
Let's vote for jobs.
2:37:04
Yeah!
2:37:05
Karma.
2:37:07
Yes, Kelly Spongberg, no stranger to the show
2:37:10
from Rocky Mountain House in Alberta, Canada.
2:37:13
Came in with $189.55, Canadian dollarette.
2:37:18
So, associate executive.
2:37:19
No, no, no.
2:37:20
That's American after the 250 bucks for the
2:37:23
Canadian dollarette.
2:37:24
Thank you.
2:37:25
I got you.
2:37:25
So, they will be associate executive producers.
2:37:27
Sir Kelly and Dame Andrea are pleased to
2:37:29
announce the completion of our business expansion at
2:37:33
Metal Dog Machines in Rocky Mountain House, Alberta.
2:37:37
This donation is to both celebrate the show's
2:37:39
1800th milestone and all Dame Andrea's work as
2:37:43
a general contractor.
2:37:46
All right.
2:37:46
Huh, beautiful.
2:37:48
And last on our list is Monica Blansing.
2:37:51
She's in Drayton Valley, Alberta, Canada.
2:37:53
You guys should meet up.
2:37:55
A hundred, that'd be $240.48, I think
2:37:58
is what it comes to.
2:37:59
Happy belated 18th anniversary.
2:38:02
Thank you.
2:38:03
All right.
2:38:05
Belated, well, you can do it again in
2:38:07
October.
2:38:08
It's not quite belated until October 20th something.
2:38:12
1800 episodes, we appreciate it.
2:38:14
Yeah, that's what she meant.
2:38:14
And we appreciate all of our executive and
2:38:16
associate executive producers as always.
2:38:18
Thank you so much for your courage.
2:38:20
And of course, these credits are entirely real
2:38:22
and accepted by the Hollywood bigwigs.
2:38:25
Go to imdb.com.
2:38:26
You'll see over a thousand no agenda executive
2:38:28
and associate executive producers.
2:38:30
It also works in your LinkedIn profile or
2:38:33
on your ex or if you're on it,
2:38:34
on your blue cry.
2:38:35
And we'll be thanking the rest of our
2:38:37
value for value supporters in our second segment,
2:38:39
$50 and above.
2:38:40
And again, congratulations to this associate executive and
2:38:43
executive producers.
2:38:45
Our formula is this.
2:38:47
We go out, we hit people in the
2:38:49
mouth.
2:38:57
Shut up, Slade.
2:39:00
Shut up, Slade.
2:39:10
Silence is golden.
2:39:12
So somebody sent me a clip, this clip,
2:39:16
which is, this is Newsome.
2:39:18
And this is a short clip that I
2:39:21
pulled it off Twitter.
2:39:23
And Newsome has been getting nothing but grief
2:39:25
because he's trying to act like Trump and
2:39:27
he's a tough guy and he's cussing a
2:39:30
lot.
2:39:31
So somebody pointed out, this is Newsome.
2:39:33
Now he's decided to change course and act
2:39:35
like Biden.
2:39:36
And if you listen to this clip, he
2:39:38
sounds like Biden except he's missing the no
2:39:41
joke.
2:39:43
What was the other thing Biden used to
2:39:45
say?
2:39:45
No joke, man.
2:39:46
No joke.
2:39:47
No, it's not a joke.
2:39:48
It's not a joke.
2:39:49
It's not a joke.
2:39:49
I'm not kidding.
2:39:51
And this sort of thing, because this-
2:39:53
I'm not lying.
2:39:55
This response to this particular bogus story is
2:39:59
every known meme of things that didn't happen
2:40:03
were posted.
2:40:06
And in fact, I collected a few of
2:40:07
them for the future use of the newsletter.
2:40:11
It's like nobody believes a word of this
2:40:14
story, which makes it again, more like Biden,
2:40:16
one of his cockamamie screwball stories.
2:40:19
And this is just nonsense.
2:40:21
This is a chill.
2:40:22
This is chilling.
2:40:23
This is serious.
2:40:25
I walked into a restaurant the other day,
2:40:27
entire staff came out, started hugging me and
2:40:29
crying.
2:40:31
The hell is that?
2:40:32
The United States of America, what he's doing
2:40:35
to our diverse communities, what he's doing to
2:40:37
the fabric of our society.
2:40:41
Yeah, he does a little bit like corn
2:40:44
pop.
2:40:45
He was a bad dude.
2:40:47
There's a Biden cadence and stupid.
2:40:52
That's funny.
2:40:55
Yeah, no one cares about it, by the
2:40:57
way.
2:40:57
No one cares about Biden, except for President
2:40:59
Trump, who wants to undo all the pardons.
2:41:03
Yeah, well, that's definitely what's happening.
2:41:06
And so since we're on California, do one
2:41:09
more clip on, this is not from Newsom,
2:41:12
but it's about Newsom.
2:41:13
And this is the Cali band.
2:41:17
It says band, but it's about the ban
2:41:20
on ice masks, legal ban on it.
2:41:23
Yeah.
2:41:23
Okay.
2:41:24
California will be the first state to ban
2:41:26
most law enforcement, including federal immigration agents, from
2:41:30
covering their faces while on official duty.
2:41:33
Governor Gavin Newsom signed the bill into law
2:41:36
today, saying the masked law enforcement pulling people
2:41:39
off the streets is a step toward authoritarianism
2:41:42
in Trump's America.
2:41:44
A few other states are considering similar measures.
2:41:47
The law does allow exceptions for things like
2:41:49
riot gear, medical masks, and undercover work.
2:41:52
In the past, I said it's officers wear
2:41:54
masks to prevent being identified in videos and
2:41:58
photos, online, and facing threats.
2:42:01
This is an amazing world we live in.
2:42:04
You know, the very state that forced everyone
2:42:09
to wear a mask still does from time
2:42:12
to time.
2:42:13
Well, if you listen to that report carefully,
2:42:15
there is an out, which is instead of
2:42:18
wearing the normal mask that the ICE guys
2:42:20
are wearing, they just put on a medical
2:42:21
mask.
2:42:23
Yeah.
2:42:24
It said right there, except for medical masks,
2:42:27
so you can go out there like a
2:42:28
COVID.
2:42:29
Yeah, that's an out.
2:42:30
So you wear that, you wear a little
2:42:31
blue mask, and you know, screw you.
2:42:34
Oh, that's good.
2:42:35
That's good.
2:42:38
Looks like we have a deal.
2:42:40
The deal has been approved on the phone.
2:42:42
I don't think we've papered it yet, but
2:42:43
we got a deal.
2:42:43
We have a deal.
2:42:44
We got a deal.
2:42:45
It's like, I got a deal.
2:42:45
I spoke to the guy.
2:42:46
We got a deal.
2:42:47
Here we go.
2:42:47
The deal is for TikTok.
2:42:49
Video sharing app TikTok's future in the US
2:42:52
has long hung in the balance, but Donald
2:42:54
Trump says his Chinese counterpart approved a deal
2:42:57
over the phone as they plan to meet
2:42:59
at the APEC regional summit next month.
2:43:02
As you know, we approved the TikTok deal,
2:43:06
and we're in the process.
2:43:07
We have some great investors, big, some of
2:43:10
the biggest in the world, because we have
2:43:12
to get it signed, I guess.
2:43:15
Chooses security and surveillance concerns over American users'
2:43:19
data.
2:43:20
Washington passed a law last year mandating that
2:43:22
TikTok, run by Chinese parent company ByteDance, must
2:43:26
sell its US operations or risk going offline.
2:43:29
ByteDance has expressed its willingness to negotiate and
2:43:32
keep its estimated 170 million users in the
2:43:35
US.
2:43:36
We thank President Xi Jinping and President Donald
2:43:39
J.
2:43:39
Trump for their efforts to preserve TikTok in
2:43:42
the United States.
2:43:43
ByteDance will work in accordance with applicable laws
2:43:46
to ensure TikTok remains available to American users
2:43:49
through TikTok US.
2:43:51
According to the Wall Street Journal, the deal
2:43:53
could involve the US government receiving a multi
2:43:55
-billion dollar fee from TikTok in exchange for
2:43:58
facilitating negotiations with China.
2:44:00
Trump's stance on TikTok has changed since returning
2:44:03
to office, and he credits the app with
2:44:05
helping him win a second term via young
2:44:07
voters.
2:44:08
He's delayed implementing the sale deadline multiple times,
2:44:11
the latest now until December 16th.
2:44:14
The app's fate has been caught up in
2:44:15
a sweeping tariff spiral between Washington and Beijing
2:44:18
that has strained relations between the world's top
2:44:21
two economies.
2:44:23
So let's talk about this for a second.
2:44:25
A, who do you think the buy...
2:44:27
It's got to be multiple buyers at this
2:44:29
point.
2:44:29
I presume...
2:44:30
Yeah, Oracle's one of them.
2:44:31
Yeah, Oracle has the data already as part
2:44:33
of Project Dallas or whatever they call that.
2:44:36
Yeah, whatever.
2:44:37
Yeah, for harvesting the data, the US data
2:44:41
in Oracle, which is where a lot of
2:44:43
your data is harvested.
2:44:46
Who else?
2:44:47
Who else would be in on this?
2:44:48
It was Andreesen Horowitz is one of them,
2:44:52
and there's a third partner, and I'm trying
2:44:54
to think who it is.
2:44:56
Can't remember.
2:44:56
You know, your bot there would know.
2:45:00
I'm not going to ask the bot.
2:45:02
The bot doesn't know anything.
2:45:05
But so there's...
2:45:07
What are the chances that it'll just suck?
2:45:10
Well, the problem is that they're still negotiating
2:45:12
about the algorithm.
2:45:14
It's so...
2:45:15
I could write this algorithm.
2:45:17
You think so?
2:45:18
Yeah, I know so.
2:45:20
I like...
2:45:20
Why don't you give them a call?
2:45:22
I like red.
2:45:23
You get red stuff.
2:45:25
That's what they're...
2:45:26
That's what it looks like to me too.
2:45:28
Yes.
2:45:30
I like black preachers that do the falling
2:45:34
thing.
2:45:34
Boom, you get them all.
2:45:37
Yeah.
2:45:37
I like blue hair complaining and crying about
2:45:40
Trump.
2:45:41
Boom, you get it all.
2:45:42
It's very...
2:45:43
It's a very simple algorithm.
2:45:45
And then the monetization is the shop.
2:45:48
That's the problem.
2:45:50
You know, because of the...
2:45:53
Well, De Minimis is probably still high enough
2:45:56
at $200 that you can still get most
2:45:57
of that junk in without import duty.
2:46:04
But that's my impression.
2:46:07
But I mean, is it still making...
2:46:09
Or is it making $8 billion a year?
2:46:11
I think is what it was.
2:46:13
I don't know.
2:46:13
I think your robot would know.
2:46:15
I don't care.
2:46:16
Get your own robot.
2:46:17
Get your own robot, man.
2:46:19
I'm not getting a robot in the house.
2:46:21
This is just like an intrusion.
2:46:23
You know, I was thinking about, you know,
2:46:24
Optimus Prime and all these robots and that
2:46:27
ridiculous robot expo where all the...
2:46:32
Where they're boxing the boxing robots that kids
2:46:34
box for crap.
2:46:35
They're boxing and they're playing soccer and it
2:46:38
all sucks.
2:46:39
It totally blows.
2:46:41
It's really funny.
2:46:42
The thing is, like people always want a
2:46:45
humanoid robot.
2:46:46
That makes no sense to me.
2:46:48
I have a robot.
2:46:49
I have one robot in my house and
2:46:51
I love this robot.
2:46:53
It's my second one, actually.
2:46:55
And that's the vacuum cleaner.
2:46:57
Oh, it's not from Roomba, is it?
2:47:01
No, it's from Shark.
2:47:04
Because Shark...
2:47:04
Oh, okay.
2:47:04
That's fine.
2:47:05
No, Shark has one.
2:47:07
Oh, I have no doubt that China has
2:47:10
an entire layout of my house.
2:47:11
I mean, I really despise that part.
2:47:14
But it's so...
2:47:15
Because of Phoebe.
2:47:16
Phoebe's shit.
2:47:17
Oh my goodness.
2:47:18
I forgot to let her in.
2:47:19
Oh boy.
2:47:21
Stop the tape.
2:47:22
Yeah, let me stop the tape.
2:47:23
Hold on a second.
2:47:25
The poor dog is burning up.
2:47:35
You know, I think I liked it better
2:47:38
when you played the slide whistle.
2:47:42
Slide whistle was better.
2:47:45
Yeah, well.
2:47:46
So the ASPCA, they're going to come and
2:47:48
take her away, I'm sure.
2:47:50
Why?
2:47:50
Well, it's like it's 85, it's almost 90
2:47:53
degrees.
2:47:54
She's in the...
2:47:54
Oh!
2:47:55
She's in the...
2:47:55
Well, she's a big white hairy dog.
2:47:57
She's in the corner of the yard where
2:47:59
there's a little bit of shade.
2:48:00
She's all curled up like, I'm frying, Daddy.
2:48:05
Oh no.
2:48:06
Don't you have a doggy door?
2:48:09
This dog needs a human door.
2:48:12
We should teach the dog how to open
2:48:13
the door.
2:48:14
Yeah, okay.
2:48:15
Anyway, I thank you.
2:48:16
I also took the opportunity to urinate and
2:48:19
get some water for myself.
2:48:22
Anyway, we were talking about dog.
2:48:25
I don't...
2:48:25
What were we talking about?
2:48:28
Oh, that's a good question.
2:48:31
The shark vacuum cleaner.
2:48:32
Oh yeah, it's monitoring and napping your house.
2:48:36
Yes, but they have a special version that
2:48:38
is specifically for pet fur.
2:48:41
And it's really good.
2:48:43
And I love that thing.
2:48:46
We call it Steve McLean.
2:48:48
And every night at 11, Steve McLean goes
2:48:51
around.
2:48:52
And that's an actual robot that is functional.
2:48:54
It doesn't look like Rosie from the Jetsons
2:48:57
vacuuming.
2:48:59
This is what I don't get.
2:49:00
How stupid.
2:49:01
Like, you're spending all this battery and energy
2:49:05
and gyroscopic power on keeping this humanoid thing.
2:49:08
Who cares?
2:49:09
Oh, look, it walks just like a human.
2:49:11
It can jump.
2:49:12
Make it functional.
2:49:14
Don't make it look like a human.
2:49:16
I've never understood that.
2:49:18
Am I just obsessing too much about this?
2:49:21
No, I've always felt the same way.
2:49:23
I always...
2:49:23
And I point out to people that they
2:49:25
all have robots already.
2:49:27
The word processor is a typist.
2:49:31
And you hit the button and it types
2:49:33
out a bunch of documents for you.
2:49:34
That's a robot.
2:49:35
It's a robot.
2:49:39
So there's other examples.
2:49:41
Yes.
2:49:44
Something's happening in the UK.
2:49:47
It's coming here.
2:49:49
I had a long talk with Kyle Biderman
2:49:51
about this.
2:49:51
Man, Lindsey Graham's in bed with Kash Patel,
2:49:58
which he took...
2:49:59
No, I thought you were going to say
2:49:59
he was in bed with the Queen.
2:50:00
Well, believe me, Kyle Biderman got the joke
2:50:04
already.
2:50:04
He thought it was funny.
2:50:06
And I said, digital ID, man, it's coming.
2:50:08
And here's the UK Labour minister.
2:50:11
We know the government is looking at digital
2:50:12
ID cards at the moment.
2:50:13
How would that help prevent the situation that
2:50:17
we're in now?
2:50:18
Well, Keir Starmer, our prime minister, has said,
2:50:22
we are looking at what other countries have
2:50:24
done to bring in a sort of digital
2:50:27
accreditation.
2:50:28
I think there's real actually benefits right across
2:50:30
here from obviously dealing with illegal working, but
2:50:35
also actually imagine if your viewers imagined that
2:50:37
they had one credential that would allow them
2:50:42
to access all the different government services and
2:50:45
our public services do.
2:50:47
I'm sure many of your viewers often tear
2:50:49
their hair out with all the different numbers
2:50:51
and passwords.
2:50:52
Oh, no, different numbers and passwords.
2:50:54
I'm tearing my hair out.
2:50:56
Please, please, please.
2:50:59
The different bits of government that they have
2:51:01
to deal with.
2:51:02
I do think there could be a real
2:51:04
benefit here for people who are here and
2:51:07
working legally and accessing our public services if
2:51:11
there was one route in, as well as
2:51:14
the benefits it could have with illegal migration.
2:51:18
We're looking at that.
2:51:19
I think it is an interesting idea that
2:51:21
other countries have taken forward and we want
2:51:23
to learn from what they've done.
2:51:24
You see, this is the difference.
2:51:26
This is why we fought the British and
2:51:28
kicked them out.
2:51:29
They want digital ID.
2:51:31
We give you the Trump platinum card.
2:51:33
I mean, it's a much better card.
2:51:35
You want digital ID.
2:51:36
You want the Trump platinum, the Trump gold
2:51:38
card.
2:51:38
This is the difference right here.
2:51:41
Although they're going to push for it real
2:51:42
hard right after we go to the moon.
2:51:47
No, they're going to push for it real
2:51:50
hard, period.
2:51:53
Moon notwithstanding.
2:51:55
A little bit of EU news.
2:52:04
Well, actually, I've been taking my time to
2:52:08
watch some more of President Trump's presser with
2:52:11
Keir Starmer.
2:52:14
And I don't remember any clips of this
2:52:17
out there.
2:52:18
This is about him being disappointed in President
2:52:21
Putin, but also telling us when and how
2:52:25
the war will end.
2:52:26
Mr. President, you say that President Putin has
2:52:29
let you down.
2:52:31
Have negotiations run out of road?
2:52:33
And what are your next steps to compel
2:52:35
an end to this war?
2:52:36
He has let me down.
2:52:37
I mean, he's killing many people, and he's
2:52:40
losing more people than he's killing.
2:52:43
Very simply, if the price of oil comes
2:52:45
down, Putin's going to drop out.
2:52:47
He's going to have no choice.
2:52:48
He's going to drop out of that war.
2:52:50
And when I found out that the European
2:52:52
nations were buying oil from Russia, and as
2:52:55
you know, I'm very close to India.
2:52:58
I'm very close to the Prime Minister of
2:52:59
India.
2:53:00
I spoke to him the other day, wished
2:53:01
him a happy birthday.
2:53:02
We have a very good relationship.
2:53:03
He put out a beautiful statement, too.
2:53:05
We have- Hey, Modi.
2:53:06
But I said, you know, I sanctioned them.
2:53:09
China is paying a very large tariff right
2:53:12
now to the United States.
2:53:13
But I'm willing to do other things, but
2:53:15
not when the people that I'm fighting for
2:53:18
are buying oil from Russia.
2:53:21
If the oil price comes down, very simply,
2:53:23
Russia will settle.
2:53:24
And the oil price is way down.
2:53:26
You know, we got it way down.
2:53:27
We're drilling and we produce more oil than
2:53:30
anybody else in the world.
2:53:31
We're doing a lot.
2:53:32
But I was disappointed to see that.
2:53:34
And the Prime Minister was disappointed to see
2:53:36
that.
2:53:37
So if the price of oil comes down,
2:53:40
then Putin's out.
2:53:41
How does that work, though?
2:53:43
Because of course, we know it's a troll.
2:53:46
The European Union is not going to stop
2:53:47
buying oil.
2:53:48
But if they stop buying Russian oil, wouldn't
2:53:51
the price go up?
2:53:54
Wouldn't there be less available and therefore the
2:53:57
prices would go up?
2:53:58
That's too logical.
2:54:01
The idea is that Russia would be selling
2:54:07
less oil because the Europeans stopped buying it.
2:54:11
And it wouldn't really change the price of
2:54:13
anything, but it would change the income flow.
2:54:19
In other words, they would just get less
2:54:21
money.
2:54:21
And running out of money is not a
2:54:24
good thing for it because it's a main
2:54:25
part of their economy is the revenues from
2:54:28
oil.
2:54:29
Well, funder lion Queen Ursula is clapping back
2:54:34
and she has a plan, a plan.
2:54:37
Now, it's not about oil, but did you
2:54:40
know that they were taking Russian LNG?
2:54:44
Oh, doesn't surprise.
2:54:45
Well, then not anymore.
2:54:46
They got a lot of gas, too.
2:54:47
We're stopping that.
2:54:49
Russia's war economy is sustained by the revenues
2:54:52
from fossil fuels.
2:54:53
We want to cut these revenues.
2:54:55
So we are banning imports of Russian LNG
2:54:57
into European markets.
2:54:59
It is time to turn off the tap.
2:55:02
We are prepared for this.
2:55:03
We have been saving energy.
2:55:05
We have been diversifying supplies.
2:55:07
We've been investing in low carbon sources of
2:55:10
energy like never before.
2:55:12
And today these efforts pay off.
2:55:16
We've been saving energy.
2:55:19
Look, I have it here in my little
2:55:20
purse.
2:55:21
Yeah, you got a bunch of it right
2:55:22
here in a box.
2:55:24
And we have low carbon alternatives.
2:55:26
Yeah, oh yeah, they're going to die.
2:55:31
Once they killed their nuke plants, this was
2:55:36
the problem.
2:55:38
I don't know how they got suckered into
2:55:40
any of this.
2:55:41
Well, they want to kill people.
2:55:43
Isn't it just universally true throughout history that
2:55:47
the cheaper and more abundant actual energy is
2:55:52
that the more prosperous people become?
2:55:56
Yes, because what it is, it is energy.
2:56:00
Yeah.
2:56:01
Yeah, and it makes things move.
2:56:03
Yes.
2:56:05
Poor Europeans.
2:56:06
I do love our European brothers and sisters,
2:56:10
but you're letting these people kill you.
2:56:12
They're squashing you like bugs.
2:56:15
Yeah, and you can't say anything about her.
2:56:16
You get thrown in the slammer.
2:56:18
Yeah, you get arrested like Katie Hopkins.
2:56:21
Man, you should- She's joking about it,
2:56:23
but she's in for a surprise.
2:56:24
You should hear her story.
2:56:26
That whole podcast with Lara is good.
2:56:30
Because at a certain point, she became the
2:56:32
most hated person in the UK.
2:56:34
I don't remember what happened or what she
2:56:38
did.
2:56:39
She was on LBC for a while, as
2:56:41
I recall.
2:56:42
Yes, and she was on LBC.
2:56:44
She loves America because she would do a
2:56:47
regular spot on Tucker.
2:56:49
And because of that, she was able to
2:56:51
have, it was the Republican Women's Conference.
2:56:56
And she spoke at some gathering because of
2:57:00
Tucker got her in there.
2:57:02
And then she was on the speaking circuit
2:57:05
all of a sudden.
2:57:06
She was going around every state, speaking at
2:57:09
every Republican Women's Conference.
2:57:12
And that's, in essence, how she survived.
2:57:14
But it got so bad, as she was
2:57:17
saying, that her husband had to take their
2:57:22
children, move to a different town, take on
2:57:25
different names.
2:57:27
And they did not have contact for five
2:57:30
years because of the abuse the children were
2:57:34
taking.
2:57:36
Really?
2:57:37
Yes.
2:57:38
I was blown away.
2:57:40
Well, I remember that we used to follow
2:57:42
her when she was on LBC.
2:57:44
Raj was too.
2:57:45
Yeah.
2:57:46
And she was, you know, she was funny.
2:57:48
She was very biting in terms of her
2:57:52
critique.
2:57:54
And I just don't, I mean that, I
2:57:56
just don't see how that would create that
2:57:58
much hate.
2:57:59
No, I think it was something.
2:58:02
Well, this time I will ask the robot.
2:58:04
What was it that happened that made Katie
2:58:07
Hopkins the most hated person in the UK?
2:58:14
Well, Katie Hopkins earned that most hated label
2:58:17
from a string of explosive, often offensive comments
2:58:20
that lit up the UK media.
2:58:22
She kicked off big in 2015 with a
2:58:25
Sun column comparing migrants crossing the Mediterranean to
2:58:28
cockroaches, sparking massive backlash for racism, got her
2:58:32
investigated by police, though charges dropped.
2:58:35
Then there was her digs at fatties, calling
2:58:38
them lazy, slagging off Scottish accents as scummy,
2:58:42
and telling folks with depression to snap out
2:58:44
of it, which hit parents of kids with
2:58:46
autism hard too.
2:58:48
Oh, and that time she joked about euthanizing
2:58:50
dementia patients to free up NHS beds?
2:58:53
Pure firestorm.
2:58:54
Shows like Celebrity Big Brother amplified it all,
2:58:57
turning her into a tabloid villain.
2:58:59
But hey, she turned the hate into cash,
2:59:01
didn't she?
2:59:02
Not really.
2:59:04
Not really.
2:59:05
Hey, you biased robot.
2:59:07
Error.
2:59:09
Okay, well.
2:59:10
That's kind of funny though.
2:59:11
Snap out of it.
2:59:13
Snap out of it.
2:59:15
Snap out of it!
2:59:17
What's your problem?
2:59:19
Well, her style of pointed critique was very
2:59:24
American.
2:59:27
She definitely wasn't beyond what a Louis C
2:59:30
.K. would have done or almost any decent
2:59:33
comic.
2:59:34
Yeah.
2:59:36
Well, what she did for the public masturbation.
2:59:39
I was going to say, she did masturbate
2:59:40
in front of other comics in the hotel
2:59:42
room, as far as I know.
2:59:44
As far as you know.
2:59:47
As far as I know, yes.
2:59:49
So.
2:59:51
Yeah, poor, poor Katie.
2:59:55
Anyway, she seems to be doing okay.
2:59:56
And she had a, she had a, she
2:59:57
almost died.
2:59:58
Well, it started with, I think it just
2:59:59
started with the cockroach thing and that brought
3:00:02
down the ire of the globalists who were
3:00:05
moving to move everybody they could from the
3:00:07
Northern Africa into the Europe.
3:00:10
Yeah.
3:00:13
Since it's on right now, and I gotta
3:00:15
tell you, I'm looking at this, this is
3:00:17
amazing, the people who are at this memorial.
3:00:19
The entire cabinet has spoken already.
3:00:22
All of the top podcasters, ourselves excluded.
3:00:31
Of course we are.
3:00:32
We're never, we're excluded from everything.
3:00:34
Yes, we were deplatformed when we started.
3:00:39
This is good.
3:00:41
That's really good.
3:00:42
I was bringing that up because I called
3:00:45
it.
3:00:46
I
3:00:46
think
3:00:59
she's really gonna make something out of this.
3:01:01
Yeah, I'm in total disagreement.
3:01:04
Okay.
3:01:05
I think she has no karma whatsoever and
3:01:07
it's gonna go just nowhere.
3:01:09
But if there's people behind her that are
3:01:12
doing the job, it might not make a
3:01:13
difference.
3:01:14
This is where you say, Marco Rubio, he's
3:01:16
the guy.
3:01:17
Marco Rubio could do it.
3:01:18
So I have a question for you.
3:01:20
I got an air traffic controller clip.
3:01:24
So this is a kind of, it's edited
3:01:28
a bit, but not by me.
3:01:29
And this is the air traffic controller scolding
3:01:32
a Spirit airline flight for getting too close
3:01:34
to Air Force One.
3:01:36
Okay.
3:01:37
When he took the trip to England.
3:01:39
And is this kind of insults?
3:01:43
Do air traffic controllers normally insult the pilots
3:01:46
of these planes?
3:01:47
Is that a common thing?
3:01:48
Let's have a listen.
3:02:11
Okay.
3:02:16
So these conversations, this is a little more
3:02:19
than usual.
3:02:21
This is the exact reason when I fly
3:02:25
up to Dallas and if I'm flying myself,
3:02:27
because I only fly once every six weeks,
3:02:30
once every two months, maybe.
3:02:32
And we go in a Cirrus, which is
3:02:34
a fast, but it's a four seater.
3:02:36
It's a small aircraft, but it's not, you
3:02:38
know, it's fast for a small four seater.
3:02:42
So it takes me an hour and five
3:02:44
minutes to get up to Dallas versus five
3:02:46
minutes, five and a half hours in the
3:02:48
car.
3:02:48
Beautiful.
3:02:48
I love it.
3:02:49
And I always take along one of the
3:02:51
instructors from the flight school.
3:02:53
I rent the plane from the flight school
3:02:55
because they're on the radio all day.
3:02:58
Cause here's, this is my experience and air
3:03:01
traffic controllers are there for a reason.
3:03:03
We have a lot of them listening to
3:03:04
us.
3:03:04
I love them all.
3:03:05
I've never had a spat with them, but
3:03:07
this is what happens.
3:03:08
It's very busy airspace.
3:03:10
There's five airports up there.
3:03:12
You got Dallas, Fort Worth, you got Love,
3:03:14
you got Addison.
3:03:16
And if you are flying into that airspace
3:03:19
and they're going to vector you and tell
3:03:20
you what to do.
3:03:21
And if you so much as go, uh,
3:03:23
on the radio, they'll go, okay, why don't
3:03:26
you fly 30 minutes that way?
3:03:27
And we'll talk to you in a half
3:03:28
hour.
3:03:29
And we'll let you back in and make
3:03:30
your approach because they're busy.
3:03:32
They're trying to keep, you know, separation, all
3:03:34
kinds of bad things from happening.
3:03:36
So if you're not responsive on the radio,
3:03:39
which sounds like there's a couple of different
3:03:43
clips of this floating out there.
3:03:44
Like he had to ask two or three
3:03:46
times to turn 20 degrees right.
3:03:48
If you don't say, you know, you're called
3:03:50
Spirit Airlines, 20 degrees right.
3:03:53
If you don't say that right away, then
3:03:55
you're not paying attention.
3:03:57
And that's, that's frightening for an air traffic
3:03:59
controller because you need to respond.
3:04:02
I need you to do this.
3:04:03
If you're not turning right and you're not
3:04:05
responding, I can run into trouble.
3:04:07
I'm thinking five steps ahead.
3:04:09
So yeah, call them a douche, get off
3:04:11
the iPad, stop, uh, stop horsing around.
3:04:13
This is a busy airspace and we got
3:04:16
the Air Force One.
3:04:18
So yes, and it was meant as an
3:04:20
insult and I think it was correct.
3:04:24
Now, I thought it was kind of funny.
3:04:26
Oftentimes you'll have a different dispute where the
3:04:30
air traffic controller is going to tell you
3:04:32
how to fly, you know, or, or, I
3:04:34
mean, I'm trying to think of a good
3:04:36
example.
3:04:37
But ultimately the pilot in command is in
3:04:40
command of that aircraft.
3:04:42
So they'll tell you to do certain things
3:04:44
like, no, I don't want to do that.
3:04:45
I want to do it this way.
3:04:47
Then if it's not within their, if it's
3:04:48
not within their aerodrome space, you know, you're
3:04:52
like, hey, I don't want to fly that
3:04:53
way because I might run into rainstorms.
3:04:55
I want to go that way.
3:04:56
You know, they will have to concede to
3:04:59
you because you do have the authority over
3:05:01
the aircraft and you're up there and they're
3:05:03
not.
3:05:04
But when it comes to this, absolutely.
3:05:06
The guy, Spirit, he was a douche.
3:05:08
20 degrees to the right, just confirm and
3:05:11
go.
3:05:12
Not paying attention.
3:05:14
Yeah, they were talking to each other in
3:05:15
the cockpit, you know, talking about the flight
3:05:18
attendants.
3:05:18
You see that hottie?
3:05:20
Yeah, that dude's real hot.
3:05:24
It's Spirit, Spirit Airways.
3:05:25
I'm just saying.
3:05:27
Yeah.
3:05:29
All right.
3:05:32
I only got one.
3:05:33
I've got a couple more, but I'm like,
3:05:34
I'm going to say super cut.
3:05:36
Oh, you have a super cut?
3:05:38
You're going to save a super cut?
3:05:39
It was about the free speech thing.
3:05:41
I think it'd be better bummed because we'd
3:05:42
be talking about freedom of speech.
3:05:45
You know, I actually tried to, I actually
3:05:48
tried to make that one sound better.
3:05:51
This one?
3:05:52
Does it have music on it?
3:05:54
I don't remember.
3:05:55
There's about 10 of them out there.
3:05:57
This is the one.
3:05:58
This is a retrospective.
3:06:00
Yeah, I tried to take the music out
3:06:02
of this.
3:06:03
Why bother?
3:06:04
You can't do it.
3:06:04
I don't think there's music on this one.
3:06:06
Well, it did.
3:06:08
I told you, you need to try the
3:06:10
11 labs thing.
3:06:11
11 labs really works incredibly well.
3:06:15
It takes music out?
3:06:16
Yeah.
3:06:17
Oh, it takes music.
3:06:18
I told you, it's the only thing that
3:06:19
makes RFK Jr. sound legible.
3:06:24
Okay, I'll play with it next time.
3:06:26
Well, let me just see because I think
3:06:30
I have the, I threw it out.
3:06:33
Maybe I still have it.
3:06:34
Yeah, I still have it.
3:06:36
Yeah, you'll laugh.
3:06:39
Okay, let me see if this is the
3:06:40
same one.
3:06:41
You shouldn't be banned from one platform and
3:06:43
not.
3:06:44
Twitter, ban the president.
3:06:45
No, I have a different one.
3:06:46
You shouldn't be banned from one platform and
3:06:49
not others if you are for providing misinformation
3:06:53
out there.
3:06:54
There's no guarantee to free speech on misinformation
3:06:56
or hate speech and especially around our democracy.
3:06:59
There are Americans who are engaged in this
3:07:04
kind of propaganda.
3:07:06
And whether they should be civilly or even
3:07:09
in some cases, criminally charged is something that
3:07:13
would be a better deterrent.
3:07:15
If people go to only one source and
3:07:17
the source they go to is sick and
3:07:21
has an agenda and they're putting out disinformation,
3:07:25
our first amendment stands as a major block.
3:07:28
It's really hard to govern today.
3:07:30
This is a matter of corporate responsibility.
3:07:33
Twitter should be held accountable and shut down
3:07:35
that site.
3:07:35
It is a matter of safety and corporate
3:07:38
accountability.
3:07:38
The first amendment is not absolute.
3:07:41
It does not protect any single thing anyone
3:07:44
says.
3:07:45
And there are limits and that's important.
3:07:48
And what this committee has been trying to
3:07:50
do for the last year and a half
3:07:52
is to chill the federal government from monitoring
3:07:55
what is going on on social media.
3:07:57
When you look at what Tucker Carlson and
3:07:59
some of these other folks on Fox do,
3:08:02
it is very, very clearly incitement of violence.
3:08:07
Very clearly incitement of violence.
3:08:09
I believe that when it comes to broadcast
3:08:12
television like Fox News, these are subject to
3:08:15
federal law, federal regulation in terms of what's
3:08:20
allowed on air and what isn't.
3:08:22
That's a good piece.
3:08:23
First of all, she calls it broadcast television.
3:08:25
It's not.
3:08:26
And they're not.
3:08:27
This is a U.S. representative that was
3:08:30
AOC.
3:08:30
This is an actor.
3:08:33
It's not a representative.
3:08:34
Very clearly incitement of violence.
3:08:36
I believe that when it comes to broadcast
3:08:38
television like Fox News, these are subject to
3:08:42
federal law, federal regulation in terms of what's
3:08:46
allowed on air and what isn't.
3:08:49
My biggest concern is that your view has
3:08:52
the first amendment hamstringing the government in significant
3:08:56
ways.
3:08:57
We should have played that earlier.
3:08:59
Although it's nice to kind of wrap up
3:09:00
with it.
3:09:01
So as a rare exception, I will play
3:09:04
for you until you realize why I threw
3:09:07
it out.
3:09:07
The supercut that I got.
3:09:09
Now, this had a typical.
3:09:14
Yeah, I don't get those too many of
3:09:16
those.
3:09:16
I don't like them.
3:09:17
Well, so that's why you use 11 Labs,
3:09:20
their voice isolator.
3:09:21
And it worked extremely well until it got
3:09:24
to someone speaking in an audience with a
3:09:27
lot of applause.
3:09:28
And you'll hear why I threw this out.
3:09:30
Twitter banned the president permanently.
3:09:32
Oh, damn.
3:09:35
They took away his precious.
3:09:36
Well, Facebook upheld their ban of Donald Trump
3:09:39
today for at least another six months.
3:09:42
It is so funny to watch the Trump
3:09:43
supporters and the Republicans meltdown over Tucker Carlson
3:09:46
getting fired from Fox News.
3:09:48
Tucker Carlson is out at Fox News.
3:09:51
Couldn't have happened to a better guy.
3:09:53
Fox News media and Tucker Carlson have agreed
3:09:56
to part ways.
3:10:06
So that's wow.
3:10:09
That's actually the view.
3:10:11
If you remember when who's the little Latino
3:10:15
woman?
3:10:16
Yeah.
3:10:16
Anna Navarro.
3:10:17
Yeah.
3:10:18
So she starts singing.
3:10:19
I wouldn't call her a little.
3:10:20
She starts singing.
3:10:22
Na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na.
3:10:25
Hey, say goodbye.
3:10:27
And it turned her.
3:10:28
This is actually a very interesting filter because
3:10:32
it removed the music from everything, but it
3:10:35
brought the actual devil that is inside of
3:10:38
that woman out.
3:10:39
Listen again, listen again.
3:10:40
It's the 11 Labs devil revealing software.
3:10:44
That's exactly what it is.
3:10:45
Agreed to part ways.
3:10:55
Foxy, I'm telling you, this is my demon
3:10:59
revealer.
3:11:01
I'm going to have to use that more
3:11:02
often.
3:11:03
It's a reverse demon filter.
3:11:05
Yeah, it brings the demon out.
3:11:20
Well, our supporters are no demons.
3:11:22
They are, in fact, angels.
3:11:24
They support us with value for value, and
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we appreciate everything you support us with.
3:11:28
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Dot com is where you can do that.
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And we have several more people to thank
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3:11:35
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3:11:35
DeVore, I go.
3:11:37
Adrian Christensen starts us off.
3:11:39
He's in Marmore, Queensland, Australia to 12640, which
3:11:44
that may have been bumped up to do
3:11:47
a calculation on that number.
3:11:50
And Dollar Reduce, that could be a associate
3:11:53
executive producership.
3:11:54
I will mark it as such.
3:11:57
Nathan Cochran in Franklin, Tennessee, 12345.
3:12:00
You know who he is.
3:12:01
He is.
3:12:03
The Mercy Me.
3:12:03
Yes, there you go.
3:12:04
New album out.
3:12:05
New album out by Mercy Me.
3:12:07
Oh, at least they get theirs out.
3:12:08
Unlike Halsey, who has been told not to
3:12:12
release a new album.
3:12:14
These guys, they pump them out, man.
3:12:16
This is a long awaited new Mercy Me
3:12:18
album.
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Anonymous in Staten Island, 12345.
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Eric Hochold, our buddy in Mulrose, Deutschland, 104.
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He should get a, he's a baron by
3:12:32
now, at least.
3:12:34
That's definitely a sir.
3:12:36
Dame Early Turtle in Topeka, 10333.
3:12:42
Travis Moore in Gibsonville, North Carolina, 100.
3:12:46
And he's going on about the Buffalo Bills.
3:12:50
Is that right?
3:12:50
Or some other bills?
3:12:52
I don't know.
3:12:52
Some, maybe he's got a bunch of bills
3:12:55
in the mail.
3:12:56
Sam Godwin in San Jose, 100.
3:13:01
Jason Marrerer in Vancouver, Washington, 100.
3:13:04
Dame Knight in Edmonds, Washington, 100.
3:13:10
Chucks or Chuckles, but it says Chucks, 100.
3:13:14
And he wants to de-douche.
3:13:16
My brother, Steve, who has hit me in
3:13:18
the mouth and his son, Harrison, who hit
3:13:21
Steve in the mouth.
3:13:23
You've been de-douched.
3:13:27
There's a de-douching involved.
3:13:29
Yeah, they got him.
3:13:29
Tony Almond in Greenville, South Carolina, 9482.
3:13:37
KF4MSI, yes, 73.
3:13:41
Lisa Samuels in Vernal, Utah.
3:13:44
It's a birthday.
3:13:46
Kevin McLaughlin, there he is, 8008.
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He's the Archduke of Luna, lover of America,
3:13:51
lover of melons.
3:13:52
Darius Walker in Charleston, West Virginia.
3:13:55
You're old stomping ground, 7714.
3:13:58
Ah, there it is, the West Virginia Hill
3:13:59
donation.
3:14:00
The Virginia Hill donation.
3:14:04
Brian McIntyre in Richboro, Pennsylvania, 7561.
3:14:08
Birthday call out.
3:14:10
Cory Rule, R-E-U-L-E in
3:14:14
North Liberty, Iowa, 7541.
3:14:18
Call out Ames Hetzer and Paul Nowak.
3:14:24
That's douchebag.
3:14:28
Sir Selwyn, Silver Springs, Maryland, 6423.
3:14:32
Oh, Dame Becky, you missed Dame Becky.
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Oh, Dame Becky, she's in Arlington, Washington, 6996.
3:14:39
Uh, Matthew Burns in Causton, B.C., 5856.
3:14:46
Another birthday for Finnegan.
3:14:48
Sir B.
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Boop in New Brighton, Minnesota, 5656.
3:14:55
Kent O'Rourke in Frostburg, Maryland, 5272.
3:15:01
Baron Henry of the Outpost West in Rancho
3:15:04
Palos Verdes, California, 5242.
3:15:07
Sir Luke, he's in London, U.K. We
3:15:10
got a Londoner, 51.
3:15:12
Now we got the 50s.
3:15:12
We only have four of them.
3:15:13
It's a very short list, actually, overall.
3:15:16
Terence Boyer in Tuscola, Illinois, 50.
3:15:20
Andrew Gusek in Greensboro, North Carolina.
3:15:25
Michael Sykora in New Richmond, Wisconsin.
3:15:30
And last on our list here of well
3:15:32
-wishers for show 1801 is Kenneth Petilia in
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Hamilton, Ontario, Canada.
3:15:43
I want to thank these folks for making
3:15:45
the show a good show.
3:15:47
It's a good show.
3:15:47
Yes.
3:15:48
Well, it's always a good show because it's
3:15:50
a good show because, you know, we're inimitable.
3:15:53
And thank you again to our executive, excuse
3:15:55
me, associate executive producers for episode 1801, 1
3:15:59
,801 shows, 18 years of this program.
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Knight John, happy birthday to Archduchess Kim, keeper
3:16:30
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Yes, she will know the answer to all
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Another $1,000 in the pot.
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And welcome to a higher level on the
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So I guess Sir Greg actually, he kept
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3:18:26
Turns out not only does he get an
3:18:29
upgrade, we should have knighted him first and
3:18:32
then given him the upgrade because he has
3:18:34
reached baronet.
3:18:36
But I think we should definitely make him
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an official knight of the No Agenda round
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If you don't mind, you can bring out
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Here you go.
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Thank you.
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A sword with a xylophone.
3:18:48
He said, I'm Sir Greg Hudson, the Mammoth
3:18:50
Knight of the Inner Banks.
3:18:52
I've been donating since 6-17-22 and
3:18:56
he's now supported us with another 1,000.
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So he is a baronet.
3:19:00
But first, I'd like to welcome him to
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the round table and I pronounce him as
3:19:04
Sir Greg Hudson.
3:19:06
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3:19:24
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3:19:26
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3:19:45
As always, welcome to the round table.
3:19:47
Brand new knights.
3:19:48
New agenda meetups.
3:19:55
Well, we got a lot of meetups taking
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place in the next few weeks.
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On the 27th, Fort Wayne, Indiana.
3:20:01
Indianapolis, Indiana on the 28th.
3:20:03
We hope that Sir Mark is healthy again
3:20:05
and back in the country.
3:20:06
Not sure yet.
3:20:06
Los Angeles with Leo Bravo on the 28th.
3:20:09
Raleigh, North Carolina on the 2nd of October.
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Anchorage, Alaska on the 4th.
3:20:12
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3:20:15
Followed by Fredericksburg, Texas on the 11th.
3:20:17
I will be there with the keeper.
3:20:19
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3:20:21
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And finally, another one in the Netherlands in
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3:20:29
Find out where all of the NOAA agenda
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meetups are taking place.
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You've got to go to at least one
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of them to see what this is like.
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Meet your fellow slaves from Gitmo Nation.
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These people will be your first responders in
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case of an emergency.
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Connection is protection.
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If you can't find one near you, go
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to noagendameetups.com.
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Start one yourself.
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It's easy and always.
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Guaranteed a party.
3:21:04
Yeah, baby, like a party.
3:21:10
John's tip of the day is on the
3:21:12
way.
3:21:12
And of course, we have our end of
3:21:13
show AI mix.
3:21:14
You'll want to stick around for two toe
3:21:16
tappers for sure.
3:21:17
But first, as part of our this is
3:21:19
how the sausage is made.
3:21:21
We are going to determine what we will
3:21:23
play as our end of show ISO.
3:21:25
Once again, I have two.
3:21:26
John has one.
3:21:26
I'm sure it's an AI version.
3:21:28
I, of course, just have regular people.
3:21:30
And here we go.
3:21:31
This is outrageous.
3:21:35
Okay.
3:21:36
And the gift that keeps on giving from
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Austin, Texas.
3:21:47
Those are my entrance for today.
3:21:51
I mean, I like Alex Jones, whatever he
3:21:53
does, but I don't know if that's very
3:21:55
good for the end of the show anyway.
3:21:58
So I got it.
3:21:58
You're right.
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This is a creation.
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And here he goes.
3:22:01
Tell us proof.
3:22:02
It is the best podcast in the universe.
3:22:04
How can we?
3:22:05
How can we not do that?
3:22:06
I mean, if you're just going to shill
3:22:07
it in with best podcast universe, we're the
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best.
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We're the awesomest.
3:22:12
Donate.
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Of course, we're going to.
3:22:13
Oh, what was that?
3:22:15
It should do.
3:22:16
I hurt myself.
3:22:17
I didn't mean that.
3:22:18
I did something really bad.
3:22:20
What I meant to do was hit this
3:22:21
one and say it is time for John's
3:22:23
tip of the day.
3:22:35
All right.
3:22:36
I'm going to go to a generalized tip.
3:22:39
And this is a wine tip for everybody
3:22:43
out there, especially the ladies.
3:22:45
Hello, ladies.
3:22:48
And this is triggered by the exploding bottles
3:22:52
at Costco.
3:22:54
Oh, so there's a recall of some of
3:22:57
this wine that Costco has.
3:22:59
And Costco has a pretty good one, but
3:23:00
they're all good.
3:23:01
And the wine that everyone should check out,
3:23:04
it's and this is called Moscato Dosti.
3:23:08
That's M-O-S-C-A-T-O
3:23:11
-D apostrophe A-S-T-I.
3:23:14
It's a sweet, bubbly wine.
3:23:16
It's not like a champagne bubbly.
3:23:20
It's a light sparkling wine.
3:23:22
It's sweet.
3:23:23
The alcohol is low.
3:23:25
It's like 7% on a lot of
3:23:27
these.
3:23:28
Sometimes it gets to 10.
3:23:31
And it's every one I've ever had in
3:23:33
my life.
3:23:34
I've had a lot of them.
3:23:36
They seem to be all be good at
3:23:39
whatever price.
3:23:39
They run around 12 to 15 to 16
3:23:42
bucks, maybe.
3:23:43
I think Costco has one for under 10
3:23:45
that explodes in some states.
3:23:48
I don't know what the deal is there.
3:23:50
It was, I listened to it.
3:23:51
It was every single state except for Texas
3:23:53
for some reason.
3:23:54
No, no, they didn't have any exploding bottles
3:23:56
in California either.
3:23:57
There was only about 20 states where they
3:24:00
were blowing up.
3:24:01
And you didn't even have to take it
3:24:04
back.
3:24:05
You could just show them a receipt and
3:24:06
you get your money back.
3:24:07
So you get free bottles of this stuff.
3:24:09
I would just recommend if you have a
3:24:11
bottle, they said don't open it because it
3:24:12
might blow.
3:24:13
I would say just put on some goggles,
3:24:17
wear some gloves and open it.
3:24:20
And if it doesn't blow up, you're in
3:24:21
good shape.
3:24:22
You have a nice bottle of free Moscato
3:24:26
Dosti.
3:24:26
Now, do you have a tip on how
3:24:28
to approach this exactly?
3:24:30
It's a sweet wine for it's chilled.
3:24:34
It's a summer sipper.
3:24:36
It's good for the upcoming Indian summer.
3:24:38
It's a summer sipper.
3:24:39
And the problem with it is Mimi has
3:24:42
this issue and most people will, you can't
3:24:45
not drink the whole bottle.
3:24:48
Yeah, is that only Mimi, really?
3:24:51
Well, I think a lot of people will
3:24:53
run into it.
3:24:53
If you've ever had Moscato Dosti, you will
3:24:56
find it's hard to resist just drinking it
3:24:59
down.
3:25:00
It is a superior product.
3:25:02
It's a great, it's an afternoon thing.
3:25:05
It's supposed to be a dessert wine, but
3:25:06
I wouldn't have it for dessert.
3:25:08
It's not really sweet enough.
3:25:09
It's kind of awkward for dessert.
3:25:11
It's really just a casual drinker.
3:25:13
There you go.
3:25:14
There it is, everybody.
3:25:15
John's tip of the day.
3:25:16
Get the non-exploding kind.
3:25:17
It drinks better.
3:25:19
Great advice for you and me.
3:25:22
Just a tip with JC Dean.
3:25:26
And sometimes Adam.
3:25:28
Created by Dana Brunetti.
3:25:30
Ah, well, there we go.
3:25:32
Created by Dana Brunetti.
3:25:34
Okay, let me see.
3:25:36
I think we have Mutton Meat and Music
3:25:39
coming up next.
3:25:41
Oh, Sir Bemrose will turn 48 on Tuesday.
3:25:46
I'm sorry, Bemrose.
3:25:47
I didn't realize that.
3:25:48
Happy birthday.
3:25:49
Happy birthday.
3:25:50
Has a special mention for you.
3:25:52
There you go.
3:25:54
And end of show mixes, we have Jeffrey
3:25:58
Corker.
3:25:59
Repeat.
3:25:59
It was so good.
3:26:00
I have to play it again.
3:26:01
And Kevin Trotman with a nice ditty about
3:26:04
the No Agenda Nights and dames.
3:26:07
And we will return on Thursday.
3:26:10
I'm sure there will be something to deconstruct
3:26:12
if it's not free speech or something of
3:26:16
the like or some pod that someone said
3:26:20
something dumb on will be here for you
3:26:22
to help you through it all, make you
3:26:24
sound smart at the water cooler.
3:26:27
And I am coming to you as we
3:26:30
do twice a week from the heart of
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the Texas Hill Country.
3:26:34
I live in Fredericksburg, and I love my
3:26:36
truck in the morning.
3:26:37
Everybody, I'm Adam Curry from Northern Silicon Valley
3:26:40
where I remain.
3:26:41
I'm John C.
3:26:42
Dvorak.
3:26:42
We'll see on Thursday.
3:26:43
Remember us at noagendadonations.com.
3:26:46
Value for value.
3:26:47
Until then, adios, mofos, a hui hui and
3:26:51
such.
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They're solid plastic, so don't settle for imitation.
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But the senator, while insisting he was not
3:27:01
intoxicated, could not explain his nudity.
3:27:05
So, baby, if you ever wonder, wonder whatever
3:27:12
became of me, I'm living on the air
3:27:17
and getting old nation, no agenda, Adam J
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.C. With Curry and Dvorak deconstructing, M5M up
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and down the dime.
3:27:32
Maybe you're a douchebag, never donate.
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But maybe think of us once in a
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while.
3:27:40
We're at no agenda showing it, mole nation.
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A seated ring is ordered with searing wax.
3:28:22
Time for a round now, a mutton and
3:28:26
mead.
3:28:28
More mutton and mead.
3:28:34
As nights we go out and hit people
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in the mouth.
3:28:40
To spread no agenda throughout north and south.
3:28:46
We're from Gilmore Nation, our demeanour is hearty.
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We meet up quite often, it's like a
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party.
3:28:59
Time for a round now, a bong and
3:29:02
sandwich.
3:29:19
For value, that's
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just what we do.
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We've got 33 ways to deconstruct news.
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So won't you come join us, start donating
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today.
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We'll make room at the table for you
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and we'll say.
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Time for a round now, ginger ale and
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gerbils.
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Oh, ginger ale and gerbils.
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Bourbon.
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Or mutton and mead.
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