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1817: Stunt Grenade

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Complain more.
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Adam Curry, John C.
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Dvorak.
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It's Sunday, November 19th, 2025.
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This is your award-winning Gitmo Nation Media
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Assassination Episode 1817.
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This is no agenda.
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We are smoking hot.
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And broadcasting live from the heart of the
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Texas smoke country here in FEMA region number
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six.
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Good morning, everybody.
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I'm Adam Curry.
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Time for Northern Silicon Valley, where we've noticed
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Ukraine is falling apart.
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I'm John C.
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Dvorak.
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It's crackpot and buzzkill.
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In the morning.
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I didn't expect to start there.
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I didn't either.
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I had some other schemes as my opener,
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but then that came to mind.
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Oh, well.
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The French 24 this morning, that's all they
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were talking about.
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They had these attractive Ukrainian women going on
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about how bad the government is.
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Oh, yeah.
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This is, and by the way, you and
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I are both shocked.
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What?
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Shocked that it's falling apart?
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No, that Ukraine's corrupt.
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Well, hold on a sec.
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First of all, we have to understand there's
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nothing to worry about.
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Queen Ursula is going to take care of
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Ukraine for at least the next two years.
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We just have to figure out which one
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of the three options we will use to
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pay for it.
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John, this is a quiz.
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We are now working very closely with Belgium
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and all the member states on options.
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How to deliver on this commitment?
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It's clear we will deliver and we will
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cover the financial needs of Ukraine for the
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next two years.
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The discussion is now on the how.
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And there are three options.
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Here we go.
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Option one is to use the budget's headroom
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to raise money on the capital markets.
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Oh, okay.
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Option two is to have an intergovernmental agreement
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that member states raise the necessary capital by
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themselves.
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And option three is to have a reparations
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loan.
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This is based on immobilized Russian assets.
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Ah, I pick number three.
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What do you pick?
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What do you think is the best one
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there?
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Steal it from the people or steal it
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from the Russians?
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Well, they want to steal it from the
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Russians, but they know that they're trading on
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thin ice.
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So they will steal it from the people.
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Oh, you think that they'll steal it from
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the people?
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Yeah, because they can get away with that.
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Stealing from the Russians is not going to
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work out long-term and they know it.
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The other thing is the Ukrainians, why would
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you, they're already stealing the money we're giving
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them already.
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I have a little- What, are you
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going to give them more money?
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That's the solution to the problem.
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I have a little update from my boy,
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Andrew Rasoulis.
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Ah!
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Yeah, yeah, he's got us the update.
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You want to do that now or at
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the end of the presentation?
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Because he's the best.
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Well, he's, these are pretty short, actually.
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He was on CBC, he's dressing in a
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suit now.
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He used to be kind of cash.
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I've never seen him.
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Oh, well, he used to be cash in
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a sweater and now he's, now he's in
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a suit.
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Oh, so they clued him in.
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I think so.
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Okay, so first of all, it appears Russia
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is winning.
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The Russians have managed through very determined attritional
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warfare over months now.
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And they've been working on Park Forest, this
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main hub.
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And they have been wearing down the Ukrainians,
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again, war of attrition.
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And they're now about to achieve what will
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be an operational level success, which means a
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significant success, more than tactical, less than strategic,
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but significant on the battlefield.
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Whatever that is.
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I love it.
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It increases the momentum of Russia's advance westward.
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Next time in a meeting.
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You know, that's a really good idea, Bob.
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That is more than strategic, less than tactical.
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I'm really digging that.
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I think you're onto something here.
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Well, of course, the big thing now is
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as winter draws, which means it'll soon be
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the end of the fighting season.
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We always have to remember, we have fighting
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seasons and it's about to draw to a
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close.
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We all just go, nah, we're not gonna
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fight right now.
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The season's over.
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And that is the energy attacks.
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They're targeting even greater than they did last
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year.
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Not only the electrical grid, which is what
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they've been working on for the last couple
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of years and, you know, lights out stuff.
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Now they're going after, in addition to the
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energy, the gas, that is the heating source
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for a lot of Ukrainian cities like in
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Kiev, which are centrally controlled.
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If you take out one of these generators
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that put the hot air, hot water throughout
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the heating systems in the town, everything goes
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down.
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They all get cold and much harder to
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fix.
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So what the Russians are doing is wearing
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down the morale of the Ukrainian people so
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that then they try to pressure the Ukrainian
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government to come to terms with Russia, not
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just saying a ceasefire, but a ceasefire that
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also gives the Russians what they want in
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terms of Ukrainian neutrality, no NATO and regime
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change possibly.
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Ooh, ooh, ooh.
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This does not sound good for Volodymyr.
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And of course, add to that the corruption
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and well, I don't know.
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But politically, it certainly destabilizes the Zelensky government.
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I don't think it's a strategic defeat for
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him yet.
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He's surviving.
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He's at war.
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And there are those who say, well, it's
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the best we've got, you know.
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And the Lithuanian minister of government the other
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day said, this is a terrible event, but
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this is all we've got.
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So we got to keep going.
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And there's that kind of attitude.
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But yes, the point is that that's just
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one attitude.
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There are the people on the ground in
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Ukraine, those who are supposed to go off
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and fight, who are a lot of them
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are trying to not go off and fight.
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And when the energy grid is being hit
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and they're trying to rebuild it, and yet
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there's about a 15% scam taking place
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or was taking place with profiteering from the
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efforts to rebuild this energy grid, people are
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saying, what's this all about?
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What are we fighting about?
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People are just putting money in their pockets.
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So maybe Ukraine as a Western model isn't
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so great.
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And therefore we shouldn't really be fighting and
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putting our lives on the risk.
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Yeah, really, what are we doing?
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And the results, our friend Andrew Rasoulis believes
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will be more concessions in the peace talks
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and what we've always said, an armistice or
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a ceasefire.
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And there never will be actual peace.
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Well, I think Ukraine will give major concessions.
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It's already gonna lose 20% of its
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territory.
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The Ukrainians have recognized that.
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They understand they cannot retake the land that
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Russia currently occupies through military force.
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They refer to diplomatic solutions.
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That's already a concession.
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The question is additional concessions.
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And that's why politically, there is no room
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for negotiations at present.
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The Russians are prevailing.
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I prefer that term rather than winning.
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They're prevailing and they see that if they
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continue further military action, they will have further
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gains.
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And one of their key objectives right now
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is to take before Oblast the full administrative
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boundaries.
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They control large parts, but not everything.
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And they will continue to push until they
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get that because Ukrainians are refusing to cede
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it.
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So that will be taken by military force.
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And then the question is, will a ceasefire
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come into place at that point?
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Because it's unlikely that a political settlement anywhere
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near what the Russians are demanding of the
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Ukrainians will come out unless the Ukrainians are
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completely broken.
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I think a ceasefire in a very hard,
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cold peace is more likely to come.
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There it is.
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There it is.
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And of course we need to use this
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war to figure out jobs for people.
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And Germany, which has lost everything, the economic
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production motor of the EU is dead thanks
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to no Russian energy, cheap Russian energy.
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And so what do we do?
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I know, let's build up our military and
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let's tell the kids they can join voluntarily
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for now.
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Faced with growing Russian threats and an unreliable
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US partner under the Trump administration, Germany has
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agreed to a new military plan to boost
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its numbers.
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There is no reason for concern or fear
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because the lesson is clear.
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Nothing to be concerned about, children.
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The more capable our armed forces are of
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deterrence and defense through armament, training and personnel,
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the less likely we are to become a
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party of conflict.
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And that serves everyone.
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That is the lesson we learned from the
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Cold War.
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Okay, so more people in military, the more
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peaceful it is.
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Okay, check.
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The coalition government will focus on voluntary service
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by making it more attractive to young people.
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Attractive.
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Starting next year, all 18-year-old men
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will have to fill in a questionnaire on
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whether they would want to serve and undergo
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a medical test.
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There will be other financial incentives as well
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to encourage people to join the military.
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But the agreement has not been without its
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hurdles, particularly over questions regarding mandatory service.
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While there are no plans to reinstate conscription,
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it's not off the table.
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We want to inspire as many young people
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as possible to serve their country.
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If voluntary participation ultimately proves insufficient, there will
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also need to be a mandatory obligation aiming
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for a conscription system that enlists as many
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individuals as necessary to ensure our defense capabilities.
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You will fight for us and you will
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be happy.
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You don't- You jumped to Germany and
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you left Ukraine hanging there.
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I'm not sure why.
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What do you mean?
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That's because she literally started with because of
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Ukraine.
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I'm not sure why you missed that.
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Yeah, but we still need to talk about
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Ukraine.
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I have a couple of clips.
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Oh, well, I don't look at your clips,
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so how could I know?
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Well, I tried to, I mentioned it earlier
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and you just ignored me.
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The Ukraine corruption is the clip.
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So this is you being a dick to
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me where I usually become mean to you.
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No, no, no, I said that- No,
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you could have said- When you said
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the Versulus clip, I said, well, I can
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play something first and then you went on
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to discuss- No, you didn't say that.
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You said, do you want to do that
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at the end of something?
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That's what you said.
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Yeah, at the end of the clip I
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wanted to play, which was the Ukrainian corruption
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clip.
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Oh, well, but why didn't you just say
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that?
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Because you steamrolled me, that's why.
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You are the worst, worst partner in 18
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years ever.
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I didn't steamroll you.
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I want to hear, I want input from
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the ladies.
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Corruption probe in Ukraine says associates of President
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Zelensky plotted to skim millions from the country's
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energy sector.
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And PR's Joanna Kikisis has more.
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This probe is extensive.
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It took 15 months, used about 1,000
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hours of wiretaps.
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There were seven alleged participants, including Timur Mindich.
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He's a close business associate of Zelensky's.
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Investigators say this group manipulated contracts at Enerhoatom,
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which is Ukraine's state nuclear energy company, and
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they got kickbacks laundering roughly $100 million.
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The scandal has forced the resignation of two
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ministers in Zelensky's government so far, but Zelensky
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has not been implicated in this probe and
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he is calling for the prosecution of those
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accused of committing crimes.
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Yeah, we played those clips on Thursday.
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Well, that just played yesterday.
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But we played, okay.
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Okay.
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Sorry for your breaking news.
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And what is the other Ukraine clip you
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have?
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You said clips.
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We're just gonna stay with that.
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The point I wanted to make, which is
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kind of lost in the shuffle here, is
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that if we haven't noticed, Zelensky killed, you
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know, besides putting the kibosh on the religion
11:41
and everything else and the media and then
11:43
stopping elections, he'd be out scot-free if
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he had allowed elections in the regular election
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cycle and got voted out and moved to
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the 10 houses or whatever the hell he's
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accumulated and just gotten out of the country.
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It's beyond me why he's still there.
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He's going to end up dead.
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No, I don't think so.
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I think the EU wants him alive.
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He's the perfect little showbiz bunny for them.
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And that they can do all this other
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stuff like steal money from people to fund
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him.
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Well, the EU does want him alive, but
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that doesn't mean he's- Well, who would
12:22
want him dead?
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This corruption can get out of control so
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quickly that you get caught up in it.
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There's no way the EU can support it.
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Hold on.
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Corruption in Ukraine?
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Hello, last 50 years.
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It's always been corrupt.
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Always.
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But it's always been, it's like the Burisma
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material.
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Oh, man.
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It's always been corrupt, but it always gets
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swept under the rug.
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But if this situation that's occurring now is
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getting out of control, they won't be able
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to stop it.
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No.
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Zelensky's going to get caught up in it.
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He's done.
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No, no.
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Give me a timeframe for him being done.
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There's no heir apparent.
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Too much.
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Ha ha ha.
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You heard it first, podcast enthusiasts.
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I don't think so.
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I think he's going to stick around.
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They love the guy.
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I'm not saying that they don't like him.
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Yeah, but who's going to kill him?
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He's not going to be killed.
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He's going to be arrested.
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He's going to be kicked out.
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There's going to be a vote, a non
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-confidence vote in the government.
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He's going to be ousted one way or
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the other.
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And within two months.
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Maybe.
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I don't think so.
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I think they'll drag this out.
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You heard that first, podcast audience.
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Podcast enthusiasts is the term.
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Enthusiasts.
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Enthusiasts.
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Pod, pod, pod, what is it?
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Podverse.
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Podcast enthusiasts.
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Yes.
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I'm sorry.
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I did not realize.
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I did not understand what you said.
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Otherwise I of course would have played your
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clip first.
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You always have priority with me.
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No, did my clips always lead to the
13:56
conclusion clip when you have Versulus?
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He should be the last guy we play.
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Well, you shouldn't have asked that as a
14:02
question then.
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You should have said, no, my clip first.
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Then it would have been easier for you
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to understand.
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I can do that.
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Remember, I don't listen to your clips.
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No, but you look at them.
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But I, you know, the Ukraine was stuck
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between Zed Riots Mexico and UK Nexus, which
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caught my eye, obviously.
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I'm like- Oh, the UK Nexus is
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good, yeah.
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Well, I'm going to leave it up to
14:25
you where you want to go because I'm
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afraid now.
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Well, you were still talking about arming the
14:30
poor German kids who are going to be
14:32
without work anyway.
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That was it.
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That was all I had.
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The only other thing I have is is
14:38
the Eurovision Song Contest news.
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Oh, that's not coming around again, is it?
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I thought we just did that like a
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couple of weeks ago.
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It's worse.
14:47
Of the many headlines to come out of
14:49
the federal budget today, one that you may
14:50
have missed has to do with Canada and
14:53
Eurovision.
14:55
Mark Carney wants CBC to explore getting the
14:57
country to participate in the European Song Contest.
15:00
Now Canada is going to participate in Eurovision
15:03
in the Song Contest.
15:05
Wait, and this is going to cost them
15:06
money?
15:07
If they win.
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I mean, if they don't win, that doesn't
15:10
cost a lot of just to send some
15:11
schlub over there with a bad three minute
15:13
song.
15:15
But I think what the, well, if you're
15:17
interested, I'll play the whole report.
15:18
Carney has got to be, you should.
15:20
Carney is like, we have to remember that
15:22
Carney was the head of the Bank of
15:23
England.
15:24
Yeah, he's a Nexus guy.
15:26
He's trying to ruin Canada.
15:28
Yes, yes he is.
15:30
So he's not even Canadian.
15:31
Ah, this is a good point.
15:33
Now the British are famous for losing.
15:37
They're famous.
15:38
It's a national pastime to laugh about the
15:41
Eurovision Song Contest and see if Britain will
15:44
come in, if England, UK I should say,
15:47
if they will come in last again.
15:50
So maybe this is Carney trying to say,
15:52
well, you know what?
15:54
It was just you guys.
15:55
Let's move Canada into that spot of perpetual
15:59
loser.
15:59
Well, if you listen to this professor who's
16:02
about to talk about it, we have had
16:04
some actual Canadians win just not representing Canada.
16:07
On test, I guess, beyond Europe.
16:09
Joining us now is journalist and Eurovision expert,
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Karen Fricker.
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She's also an adjunct professor at Brockham.
16:15
Yes, and they could have called me for
16:17
that.
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University professor.
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From Toronto.
16:21
So the concept of Canada's participation in Eurovision
16:25
apparently is nothing new, though new to me.
16:28
What did you think of the prime minister
16:30
pitching this?
16:31
I was extremely surprised and kind of excited
16:34
as a Canada-based Eurovision lover.
16:37
Of course, this is a tantalizing proposition.
16:39
Tantalizing.
16:40
But it is a contest based in Europe
16:42
run by the European Broadcasting Union, but it's
16:45
not unprecedented for a non-European country to
16:48
compete.
16:49
Australia has been competing for the past 10
16:51
years.
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Yeah, they're in Europe.
16:52
So there's an angle.
16:53
Yeah, so let's back up for a sec.
16:55
What drew you into this?
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How are you a Canadian who is so
16:59
introverted?
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Why am I doing this bit with you?
17:03
Excited by the Eurovision contest.
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I lived in Ireland for 10 years.
17:08
I did my PhD in Ireland and everybody
17:10
knows Eurovision there.
17:11
It's an absolute household name thing.
17:13
And as somebody who loves pop music and
17:16
spectacle, I just couldn't believe I didn't know
17:18
anything about it.
17:19
And so I've been researching it for over
17:20
25 years.
17:21
Well, I mean, if you see Eurovision to
17:23
me, the first thing that I would think
17:25
of is ABBA and Waterloo.
17:27
So music and spectacle certainly are associated in
17:30
my mind with it.
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I don't know that I can name a
17:34
lot of other winners, but it doesn't matter.
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Well, I can help you, Ian.
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Yep, yep.
17:39
Celine Dion was.
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Ah, yes.
17:41
Representing Switzerland, I think, right?
17:44
Exactly, but there's Canadian precedent here.
17:46
Yes, you see, if only- Celine Dion
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is from Switzerland?
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No, she's Canadian, but she represented Switzerland.
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Well, that's a scam.
17:54
Yes, of course it is.
17:55
They only put the Beatles up there, you
17:57
know.
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Yeah, they're representing Berkeley.
18:00
Are you forgetting when Madonna was in it?
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Didn't Madonna, did she just perform, was it?
18:06
They're putting all kinds, it's kind of like
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when we send our best basketball guys to
18:10
the Olympics.
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Like, oh yeah, yeah, yeah, this is a
18:15
- Yeah, which is a recent phenomenon, I
18:17
should mention.
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At least 10 years, maybe more, maybe 12
18:21
years.
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Yeah, but traditionally, we played fair.
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We did, we always sent the college kids.
18:29
We used to, college kids used to be
18:32
amateurs.
18:34
Yeah, well- And the Olympics was supposed
18:36
to be for amateurs, not people who got
18:38
paid to do that job.
18:39
What was the first- And so they've
18:40
corrupted that.
18:41
First, they corrupted the Olympics with professional athletes,
18:44
and now they're corrupting college sports by paying
18:47
the college kids, which they deserve, because they
18:49
bring in large audiences, and I've always advocated
18:53
for it.
18:54
But let's be, don't kid ourselves.
18:56
There are some people that make more money
18:58
playing college football than they will when they're
19:00
professionals.
19:01
So the dream team, the NBA professionals competed
19:04
in the Olympics was 1992.
19:07
That's not just recent.
19:09
It is, to me.
19:12
Most of my life, it was amateurs.
19:16
Right, but the Zeds who listened to our
19:18
show weren't even born then.
19:20
So- Well, the Zeds.
19:22
The Zeds, baby, the Zeds.
19:24
I love the new Zeds.
19:26
This whole Mexico thing is fantastic.
19:29
This is, Mimi called me about this, talking
19:31
about the Zeds in Mexico, but she didn't,
19:34
the way that she was given the report,
19:35
which I think was on the networks, they
19:37
didn't mention it was a Zed, you know,
19:39
part of the Zed phenomenon.
19:41
I had to explain that she knows that
19:43
because she listens to the show.
19:44
But it's Zeds.
19:46
And is it the CIA running?
19:48
I mean- Well, no, okay.
19:51
I'm not gonna argue that for sure because
19:53
I'm convinced it's the CIA too, because that's
19:55
why, but they're doing it selectively.
19:57
And so they're going after Mexico because they're
20:00
not cooperating with us.
20:02
So maybe Trump is, you know- Yes,
20:05
yes, keep going.
20:06
This is part of the North Sea Nexus.
20:08
This is cutting off the British drug trade
20:12
into our country through Mexico.
20:13
So here we go with the Zed riots,
20:16
Mexico one.
20:18
Now we turn to Mexico City, where protests
20:20
this afternoon turned violent.
20:22
They were organized by young people, Generation Z,
20:25
Generation Z, Generation Z, who say they're speaking
20:28
out against a narco government.
20:30
These are the largest anti-government protests since
20:32
President Claudia Sheinbaum took office more than a
20:35
year ago.
20:36
Protesters have broken through a police barricade and
20:39
police have thrown tear gas and stun grenades
20:41
at them.
20:41
I spoke with NPR's Eder Peralta, who is
20:44
in Mexico City near the protest crowds.
20:47
Eder, we can hear you out there on
20:48
the streets.
20:49
What is it that we're hearing and that
20:51
you're seeing?
20:52
I mean, look, this protest started peaceful through
20:55
the center of downtown, and now it has
20:58
reached the Zócalo, which is Mexico City's main
21:01
square.
21:02
And it has turned violent.
21:03
The government had put large metal barricades to
21:08
try and block protesters from reaching the presidential
21:11
palace.
21:11
And protesters have now torn through the metal
21:15
barricades, and they are trying to get through
21:17
riot police.
21:18
Riot police are firing tear gas, and they're
21:22
firing stunt grenades.
21:24
Stunt?
21:25
Did he say stunt?
21:26
Stunt grenades?
21:27
Yeah, when one hits you, you do a
21:31
backflip.
21:31
Stunt grenades, everybody.
21:33
Firing tear gas, and they're firing stunt grenades,
21:37
and this crowd is not leaving.
21:39
They say they're looking for change in this
21:42
country.
21:42
They say that they want this government to
21:46
take their suffering seriously.
21:48
They say they want the pact that they
21:51
say exists between the Narcos and the government
21:54
to end today, and that's what they're here
21:57
for.
21:57
And they say they're not leaving until they
21:59
get that.
22:00
Yes, what do we want?
22:01
We want change.
22:02
Okay, all right.
22:04
I'm gonna ask you a question in advance
22:05
of the rest of these clips.
22:07
There's only two more.
22:10
What are they doing to get, what has
22:14
somebody discovered in one of the agencies that
22:19
can get this to happen?
22:22
In other words, what I'm looking for is,
22:24
is there a psychological trigger, or is there
22:27
something you can do to get the entire
22:28
generation of Zeds to get worked up, riled
22:32
up, and out there throwing rocks?
22:35
Why don't you play your clips, and then
22:36
I'll answer that with my clips.
22:38
You actually, okay, good.
22:39
I think I can answer it, yes.
22:42
Because it's fascinating to me, because there has
22:44
to be something, because this is too easy.
22:47
Yeah, no, it's very simple.
22:48
It really is.
22:49
Okay, here we go, clip two.
22:50
Eder, what prompted these protests?
22:52
You know, what happened here is a small
22:54
-town mayor was murdered at the beginning of
22:58
November.
22:59
And this mayor, he was the mayor of
23:01
Uruapan, Michoacan, and he had taken a full
23:04
-frontal approach to fighting organized crime in his
23:09
city.
23:09
And what he said is, you know, we're
23:11
gonna shoot first and ask questions later.
23:14
And he would get on helicopters and order
23:17
his police to shoot at narco-traffickers, or
23:21
what he said were narco-traffickers.
23:22
And then, November 1st, on Day of the
23:25
Dead, he was shot dead in the middle
23:28
of his town in front of everyone, in
23:31
front of a large crowd.
23:33
And protests erupted almost immediately in his town.
23:36
They were asking for justice.
23:37
They were asking for those responsible to be
23:40
held accountable.
23:41
And now the protests have spread to Mexico
23:44
City.
23:45
And this is remarkable, Sasha, because, and what's
23:48
remarkable about it is that we just haven't
23:50
seen in recent memory an anti-organized crime
23:54
protest.
23:55
And right now, I mean, I'm in the
23:57
middle of this square and they're calling for
23:59
the president's resignation.
24:00
And they're saying, you know, that this is
24:03
a narco government, just colluded with the narcos.
24:07
And they say they're done with that.
24:09
And they want the government to take a
24:10
much stronger stance against organized crime in this
24:15
country.
24:15
Yeah.
24:16
What outfit is this, by the way?
24:19
Is this NPR?
24:20
Yeah.
24:20
Okay, yeah.
24:21
Once in a while, they do good work.
24:24
Ah, they're missing a lot.
24:25
Although, you know, there's still no analysis, which
24:27
is my complaint, which you will address as
24:30
we, this is the last clip.
24:32
And Eder, how is the government of Mexico
24:34
reacting to all that?
24:35
Well, they're saying that this was a march
24:38
organized by the opposition.
24:41
I mean, to be honest, I've covered many
24:43
marches in this country where they do tend
24:45
to bust people in.
24:47
This is not that.
24:49
This is a cross section of Mexican society,
24:53
from the upper class to the lower class,
24:55
from old to young.
24:57
And so this seems like Claudia Sheinbaum's, President
25:01
Claudia Sheinbaum's first real test as a president.
25:05
And she's extremely popular.
25:06
Her popularity, her approval rating is at 70%.
25:10
So this is an odd thing that we're
25:13
seeing here in Mexico.
25:15
That is NPR's Eder Peralta reporting from Mexico
25:17
City.
25:17
Eder, thank you for covering this and please
25:19
be safe.
25:19
Thank you, Sasha.
25:20
Please be safe.
25:22
I like the odd thing.
25:23
That was good.
25:24
That was good.
25:24
This was the noteworthy part, which is in
25:26
the third clip where he goes, you know,
25:28
I've seen these things before.
25:30
This is nothing like that.
25:31
This is totally different.
25:32
It's alien.
25:33
The woman, Sheinbaum, is really popular, but now
25:36
everyone hates her.
25:37
I mean, he was befuddled.
25:41
I would guess clueless as to the fact
25:44
that this is manufactured somehow.
25:48
Yeah.
25:48
And he's not even noticing that, which is
25:50
a problem that we have with the media.
25:53
Yes.
25:53
Well, that's why you have to go to
25:55
Al Jazeera, which is, yes, Al Jazeera had
25:59
a pretty good report.
26:01
How do you motivate Gen Z to do
26:03
anything?
26:04
Well, first of all, you use Discord.
26:07
I could only find Spanish reports with the
26:10
Discord in it, so I can't play any
26:12
of that.
26:13
But there were several Spanish news reports mentioning
26:16
that these were organized on Discord.
26:19
So there's that.
26:20
The second thing, you gotta hand out cool
26:23
flags because they were manufactured, brand new, beautifully
26:27
made pirate flags, like skull and crossbone flags.
26:30
Oh, is it that pirate flag that I
26:32
discussed before?
26:33
Yes, it's the skull and crossbones.
26:35
The one with the sombrero?
26:37
No, there's no sombrero on it, no.
26:40
Oh, that's interesting.
26:41
But they are your beautiful made-in-China
26:44
flags.
26:44
And as a part of the meme for
26:47
this mayor, you hand out hats.
26:50
So when you've got Discord, you've got hats,
26:54
you've got flags.
26:56
This is ridiculously, probably completely accurate, but ridiculously
27:00
simplistic approach to getting people riled up.
27:04
Here's the report.
27:05
Flags, hats.
27:05
In the streets of Mexico City, fed up
27:08
with corruption and violence of drug cartels, demonstrators
27:11
tore down metal walls protecting the National Palace.
27:15
They blame President Claudia Sheinbaum for not doing
27:18
enough to bring justice and investigate the assassinations
27:21
of at least 10 politicians since she took
27:24
office one year ago.
27:26
Protesters are demanding that the police focus on
27:29
protecting them from criminal networks rather than cracking
27:32
down on demonstrations that call for meaningful change.
27:36
Some carried the Generation Z pirate emblem flag
27:40
used by young protesters in Nepal, Morocco, and
27:43
Peru.
27:44
Others wore straw hats, a symbol of Carlos
27:47
Manso, the mayor of the Western city of
27:50
Uruapan gunned down two weeks ago, yet another
27:53
victim of drug cartels.
27:55
Ahead of the march, President Sheinbaum said the
27:57
protests are a strategy paid by foreigners linked
28:00
to right-wing groups.
28:03
There may be young people who disagree with
28:05
us and that's part of democracy, but it's
28:08
very important to know how this mobilization was
28:11
orchestrated.
28:12
There is evidence that many of the promoters
28:14
have nothing to do with Generation Z, but
28:17
rather that this is a political operation even
28:20
financed from abroad.
28:21
Hello.
28:24
They're just saying it now.
28:26
Now, the way I view this under the
28:28
lens of the North Sea Nexus is this
28:30
is where all of the fentanyl is coming
28:32
from.
28:33
It's a huge narco state, obviously.
28:37
Sheinbaum doesn't want to cooperate.
28:41
And we have to remember, $800 million was
28:45
laundered through HSBC, a British bank, even though
28:48
it's the Hong Kong-Shanghai.
28:52
What is it?
28:52
What's the B and the N?
28:54
It'd be, you know, C.
28:55
Well, but that is, you know, it's basically
28:57
a British bank, which was laundered through them
29:00
during the Obama years.
29:02
And that was a big scandal, which pay
29:04
a fine.
29:05
It's okay, we're fine.
29:06
We'll just keep on moving.
29:07
So this is part of shutting down the
29:10
British drug trade money, and this is the
29:14
big money through Mexico, completely explained by Mexican
29:20
Senator Lili Tellez, Tellez, Tellez, Tellez, Tellez, who
29:26
went on Fox, much to her peril, and
29:29
explained exactly what's going on.
29:31
This is the intro.
29:32
President of Mexico is furious.
29:35
She's calling Mexican Senator Lili Tellez a traitor
29:38
for coming on Fox Noticias with me a
29:41
few days ago and saying this.
29:43
The help from the United States to fight
29:45
the cartels in Mexico is absolutely welcome, and
29:49
that is how the majority of Mexicans feel.
29:51
The only ones who don't like that President
29:53
Trump is sending help and trying to support
29:56
Mexicans against the cartels are the narco politicians.
29:59
That includes President Scheinbaum.
30:02
Mexican President Claudia Scheinbaum responding saying, quote, it's
30:05
not a minor issue that a senator gave
30:07
an interview to a foreign media outlet calling
30:09
for intervention.
30:11
Here to discuss is that Mexican Senator Lili
30:14
Tellez.
30:15
Senator Tellez, welcome to Fox Noticias.
30:17
I'm just gonna get right to it.
30:18
Is Mexico a narco state?
30:20
Yes, it is, and we all Mexicans know
30:23
about it, and Mexicans are afraid of the
30:27
alliance between the Mexican government and the cartels
30:31
that have infested our nation.
30:35
So very brave.
30:36
Well, this is new to, is this new
30:37
to the Mexicans, this idea?
30:39
No, not to the Mexicans, but it's, but
30:41
you hear she's saying we welcome the support.
30:44
I think this is the support coming from
30:46
us stirring all of this up, and here's
30:49
the rest of the interview.
30:51
Go ahead.
30:52
Just quickly, I went to do a search
30:55
on the Mexican riots, and they're using the
30:57
flag with the little straw hat on it.
31:00
Oh, they are?
31:01
I haven't seen, the only one I saw
31:03
in that report was the skull and crossbones.
31:05
Well, it's skull and crossbones, but it's got
31:07
a little straw hat on the top.
31:08
It's a manga character.
31:09
Oh, okay.
31:10
Can you explain this alliance?
31:12
I didn't see, that was not what I
31:15
saw in the...
31:16
I'm just looking at the photos.
31:18
Okay.
31:18
Can you explain this alliance between the president,
31:22
her party, the Morena party, and the cartels?
31:25
Yes, the party has finance, has given, the
31:28
cartels have given so much money to these
31:33
politicians, narco politicians of Morena, to get into
31:37
office, to get the power.
31:39
So they protect, the Mexican government protects the
31:44
cartels.
31:45
That is why President Schoenbaum doesn't want the
31:49
strong American leadership to help Mexico defeat the
31:54
cartels.
31:55
And also, Schoenbaum doesn't want the rest of
31:58
the world to know what is happening here
32:00
in Mexico.
32:01
We are on the steps to be the
32:03
next Venezuela.
32:04
She's aligned with Venezuela as dictator, with Cuba,
32:08
and we are losing our country.
32:12
They have destroyed our republican institutions, the democratic
32:18
state, and we must, I think we all
32:23
Mexicans want and welcome the support of the
32:26
United States to assist Mexican people against the
32:30
cartels that have us all in this crisis
32:35
with the trafficking fentanyl and migrants.
32:39
Yeah, exactly.
32:41
Yeah, we're not messing around now.
32:45
I guess we got fed up.
32:46
And remember, it was Rubio who said, no,
32:49
was it Witkoff who said, oh yeah, no,
32:52
we're taking care of stuff.
32:53
Look, we're doing stuff in Morocco.
32:55
And Morocco, what do we have?
32:56
Gen Zed.
32:58
Gen Zed discourse flags march.
33:03
By the way, just as an aside, we
33:06
have Gen Zedders out there, and I guess
33:09
there's, you know, I don't know where you
33:10
can get one of these, but I need
33:12
one of the pirate flags with the little
33:14
straw hat for my collection.
33:16
I need one too.
33:17
I will fly it.
33:19
I have a flagpole.
33:20
I will fly it.
33:21
I don't know about doing that.
33:22
I will fly it.
33:23
Oh, of course.
33:23
It'll be fun.
33:25
Yeah, I'll fly it.
33:26
No problem.
33:27
See, what you've done is you upped the
33:29
ante to make it so somebody's gonna send
33:31
you the flag instead of me, and I'm
33:33
the one that always solicits free stuff.
33:36
You're getting the clue.
33:38
You did a good, that was good.
33:39
I'll give you 10 points for that trick.
33:41
Before I forget.
33:42
I'll fly it.
33:42
Okay, what am I gonna, I kinda can't
33:45
top that.
33:45
You don't have a flagpole?
33:46
No, I don't have a flagpole.
33:49
What?
33:51
What is that?
33:52
Why is that so funny?
33:53
What?
33:53
I'm in a little town, I'm in the
33:55
suburbs, and I'm gonna have a flagpole?
33:58
I'd look like a total douchebag.
34:00
Are you kidding me?
34:01
I'm in California.
34:02
You don't have a ham antenna you can
34:04
use as a flagpole?
34:06
Flagpole.
34:07
Well, since we're on free stuff, thank you
34:09
to Trevor Lohman, PhD.
34:11
He's the real deal, Trevor Lohman.
34:13
And he has published two books.
34:16
He's published two books.
34:18
One is God's Eye View, and right there
34:21
on the cover is a perfect star that
34:24
says, read this book!
34:26
John C.
34:27
Dvorak, host of No Agenda Show, host of
34:30
DH Unplugged.
34:31
And then he sends me his new book,
34:33
Shroud Pilled, and right there at the top,
34:36
not even on the back cover, on the
34:38
front cover.
34:39
Yeah, right in the front.
34:40
That's where you want it.
34:40
Yeah, it's not one of those blurbs in
34:42
the back, which is for weenies.
34:44
A must-read book.
34:46
Adam Curry, host of the No Agenda Show,
34:49
inventor of podcasting.
34:51
I mean, you will want to read this
34:52
book when you see that endorsement.
34:55
It's like, oh, that guy.
34:56
You're getting a clue.
34:58
Yeah, it's taking me a little bit, but
35:00
yeah, I'm catching on to it.
35:01
Well, I've said this before.
35:02
I didn't want to reiterate this anecdote, but
35:05
I will.
35:06
With my former book agent, John Brockman, and
35:10
I worked for him, too, but he's a
35:13
good friend of mine, he still is.
35:15
And he told me that Alan Watts, the
35:17
very famous Zen Buddhist writer, Alan Watts, everyone
35:21
who's into Buddhism knows this guy.
35:24
He told Brockman once, he says, I'll, anyone
35:28
who asks me for a blurb, I'll just
35:30
do it.
35:31
He says, because what, it never does you
35:33
any harm.
35:33
It just does you nothing but good vibes.
35:35
It's a great thing to do.
35:37
And so I blurb everything I can.
35:38
I'll do forwards, too.
35:42
And I run into people every so often,
35:45
and they say, can you give me a
35:46
blurb for this?
35:47
And I'm, no, no, I don't have time
35:49
to read it.
35:50
You know, just do it.
35:51
No, no, what you do now, these days,
35:53
you say, yeah, could you send me the
35:55
manuscript?
35:56
Well, you can get the PDF for most
35:57
books nowadays, yeah.
35:58
Right, so send me the manuscript.
36:00
What do you do?
36:01
Flop it in the chat, GPT.
36:03
Give me a little synopsis.
36:05
Write me a blurb.
36:08
Bob's your uncle.
36:08
A blurb's always gonna be the, read this
36:11
book.
36:11
I mean, what kind of chat GPT's gonna
36:13
write too much?
36:14
It'll be too long.
36:15
Well, if you're doing a forward, you said
36:17
you did forwards.
36:18
Oh, a forward, oh God, yeah.
36:19
You don't wanna have to read the book
36:21
for a forward.
36:22
Just put it in the chat, GPT.
36:24
I'm with you.
36:25
Yeah, that's not a bad idea.
36:26
I'm with you on this.
36:27
Then you can edit it back.
36:27
No, I'm with you on this.
36:28
I think that's- Yeah, no, from the
36:30
rest of your life, you'll be doing these
36:31
blurbs.
36:32
What you're supposed to say is, you have
36:34
snatched the pebbles from my hand, Grossman.
36:36
Oh, Topper.
36:38
It is time for you to leave.
36:39
Go on your own journey.
36:41
You can go, go do your thing.
36:43
You finally got a clue.
36:44
So it's like, it's beyond me why people
36:47
just don't, you know, anyone with any notoriety
36:50
doesn't adopt this philosophy.
36:52
It just makes nothing but sense.
36:54
And yeah, I- But these are good
36:56
books.
36:56
They're obviously good books, or they wouldn't have
36:58
our names on them.
36:58
I think, you know, it is, well, I've
37:00
read the one that your name is on.
37:02
That's the funny thing.
37:02
I actually read that book, and you're the
37:05
one endorsing it.
37:06
I haven't read the new one, but I
37:08
did endorse it.
37:09
I think he said, can I just put
37:10
something on the cover?
37:11
So yeah, go for it.
37:13
Well, that's a little, you know, you have
37:15
to know.
37:16
Oh, I have- The last tip, the
37:18
last tip.
37:18
This is the end tip.
37:19
This is the tip.
37:20
You do have to write the blurb somehow.
37:23
So just say something.
37:24
And most of them are stock, and they
37:26
can be very generalized.
37:27
This is one of the most important books
37:29
I think I've read in my life.
37:31
This- How about this?
37:32
If it wasn't for this book, I wouldn't
37:34
blah, blah, blah.
37:35
I wouldn't have married my wife.
37:37
You know, stuff like that.
37:38
A page turner from beginning to end.
37:41
I couldn't- Excellent.
37:43
You're already on your own.
37:44
How about this?
37:44
I couldn't put it down.
37:47
Perfect.
37:51
Send me your books, people.
37:53
I am now the blurb man.
37:55
I went from podfather to blurb man.
37:58
Exactly.
38:00
It's not a bad policy.
38:01
So now just sticking with the North Sea
38:03
Nexus, because things are popping up left and
38:06
right.
38:07
George Galloway.
38:08
Now he was a politician, wasn't he, at
38:11
one point?
38:12
In England?
38:13
Yeah.
38:14
Yeah, he was a politician.
38:15
And now- No, I thought he was
38:16
a writer for the Guardian or something.
38:20
I thought- He's a left-wing nut
38:21
job.
38:22
I don't know if he ever got into
38:23
parliament.
38:24
I thought it- Well, we're going to
38:26
find out, aren't we?
38:27
No, hold on a second.
38:28
We are going to find out.
38:32
Can I be of assistance?
38:35
Yes.
38:35
Oh, is this your new girl?
38:37
No.
38:38
Leader of the Workers' Party of Britain.
38:40
He was a member of the Labour Party
38:42
from 87 to 2010.
38:44
He served as member of parliament.
38:45
Hello!
38:46
Okay, okay.
38:47
Politician.
38:48
Now- All right.
38:49
Now, podcaster.
38:50
He's not even a podcaster.
38:51
He's a YouTuber.
38:52
He's even a little bit lower than podcaster.
38:54
I think so.
38:54
Here's what he said on his recent show.
38:56
Indeed, this has a long and inglorious history.
39:00
The British invented it, as in so much
39:03
else.
39:04
We helped found and nourished, nurtured, the Muslim
39:11
Brotherhood in Egypt in the early 1950s so
39:17
that we could use them against the Arab
39:20
nationalist leader Gamal Abdel Nasser, President Nasser.
39:25
We invented the Muslim Brotherhood.
39:29
It was invented in London.
39:32
And it was, its first outing, though not
39:34
its last, was to undermine the pan-Arabic
39:40
message of the Nasserists.
39:43
And, well, we've fallen out with the Muslim
39:47
Brotherhood from time to time, but occasionally they
39:51
can still be useful to each other, if
39:53
you get my drift.
39:55
Exactly.
39:56
Yeah, well, we found, the United States found
39:59
it, Al-Qaeda, during the Afghanistan thing, just
40:03
to harass the Russians.
40:05
It was purposefully to, because Russia was turning
40:08
Afghanistan into a modern Western country.
40:13
They had the women who wore dresses, they
40:15
were all pretty.
40:16
No, can't have that.
40:17
They made the women pretty.
40:18
They were pretty.
40:19
They made the women pretty.
40:20
The Russians, of all people, the Russians, have
40:23
you seen the Russian women?
40:24
They're gorgeous.
40:25
They made the Afghani women pretty.
40:28
So you end up with a, you know,
40:30
going in that direction.
40:32
No, we can't have that.
40:35
But you remember.
40:36
So we dreamed up this bin Laden character,
40:38
who's a CIA asset of some sort, probably
40:40
still alive, for all I know.
40:43
Claimed that he had, by the way, they
40:45
always claimed that he had the dialysis machine
40:48
with him.
40:48
There's no evidence of this.
40:50
How come when they shot him in that
40:52
compound, supposedly shot him and then burned him?
40:55
There was no dialysis machine.
40:57
Where's the dialysis machine?
40:59
Well, speaking of that time, which was Obama,
41:02
I mean, he was also the big friend
41:04
of the Muslim Brotherhood.
41:06
Don't you remember?
41:07
Obama?
41:08
Yes, yeah.
41:09
He was like, oh, didn't he go to
41:10
Egypt and apologize, basically, to the Muslim Brotherhood?
41:13
We're sorry, we suck, we're Americans.
41:15
Maybe.
41:15
Yeah.
41:16
I remember him going to Egypt, he went
41:18
on an apology tour of the world, and
41:21
he's bowed down to everybody, and he's like
41:23
a, basically kowtowing.
41:26
Now I'm rethinking my CIA stance on him
41:29
and thinking he was much more of a
41:31
British agent, which would make sense, because they
41:35
wanna wreck our country.
41:36
That actually makes more sense.
41:37
Yeah, they wanna wreck our country, and a
41:40
pretty good job, I'd say, during the Obama
41:43
years.
41:44
Now, another attack vector is, of course, this
41:46
ongoing BBC gambit, and Trump did an interview
41:53
with GBN, which is the most fawning interview
41:57
I've ever seen.
41:58
The sycophantic, actually.
42:00
Who's GBN, GBN?
42:01
Yeah, that's the right-wing cable news outfit
42:04
now in the UK.
42:07
Oh, it's nothing like- GB News, GB
42:09
News.
42:10
Okay.
42:10
Yeah, and they're like our Fox News, it's
42:15
GBN over there.
42:17
And so the woman interviews, and she's like,
42:19
I love what you've done to DC.
42:22
I wish you could be King of England.
42:26
You could fix our country.
42:28
But then- Oh, okay, I get it,
42:30
yeah.
42:31
Trump said something interesting about this.
42:33
So he's mounting a lawsuit, we think, we
42:36
don't know, but here's what he said about
42:37
it.
42:38
Well, will you push it?
42:39
Because they haven't offered, our understanding is they've
42:40
offered no money whatsoever.
42:42
They've apologized in a letter, but they haven't
42:46
offered you a penny in compensation.
42:48
There was this figure of a billion dollars
42:50
that you may be pursuing.
42:52
I think I have an obligation to do
42:54
it.
42:56
I'm not looking to get into lawsuits, but
42:58
I think I have an obligation to do
43:00
it.
43:00
This was so egregious.
43:02
If you don't do it, you don't stop
43:03
it from happening again with other people.
43:06
I think you probably have an obligation.
43:08
I'd like to find out why they did
43:10
it, you know, so bad.
43:12
Who thinks like this?
43:14
And I wonder if they've done it, we'll
43:15
find this out, the nice part about litigation
43:18
is we'll find out how many times have
43:20
they done it to other people.
43:21
Maybe they did it to me quite a
43:23
bit.
43:23
What he's talking about here is discovery.
43:26
That's what he's talking about.
43:28
The fun thing about litigation.
43:29
That's why it's never, and it'll never get
43:31
there.
43:32
No, but he can sue BBC America.
43:34
They're a U.S. arm.
43:36
No, he can sue BBC UK too, and
43:39
we can do that because their laws in
43:41
the UK are, the libel laws in the
43:44
UK are really onerous compared to ours.
43:48
Ours, the standard is very difficult compared to
43:52
the UK.
43:52
The UK, you can sue left and right.
43:54
I think they're trying to get to discovery.
43:56
I agree with that, but I think they'll
43:58
just settle and bust around with it.
44:01
I mean, I don't know how they're gonna
44:02
get out of this.
44:03
If they're smart, they'll settle, but they keep
44:05
saying, oh no, we're not gonna pay a
44:07
dime to that guy.
44:08
And this comes where the, I can't find
44:13
any clips of it, except they did an
44:15
internal BBC video interview with Davies after he
44:19
resigned, where he said, well- He wasn't
44:22
a bad actor though.
44:23
It's that woman who was running the whole
44:25
thing, and she came from NBC.
44:27
Yes, she was not in the internal video.
44:30
And what's happening right now, they're in the
44:33
middle of what they call the charter process.
44:36
And this happens periodically where they have to
44:39
go back and say, okay, British people, we
44:44
need this much money in your license fee,
44:47
and here's the, so they have this big
44:48
process and documents.
44:50
And this comes right, which is probably the
44:53
timing of it, besides the fact that the
44:56
Telegraph was just bought by a Trump buddy,
45:00
his money at least, through Qatar, which, oh
45:04
no, I'm sorry, Abu Dhabi, to hit them
45:08
right as they're going through this charter.
45:10
Now everyone's, oh, oh, is the BBC, is
45:13
it corrupt?
45:13
Is it, is it biased?
45:15
Oh, really?
45:16
Are you just making this up?
45:17
I have to give you an admission here,
45:21
which may be affecting my analysis and my
45:24
personality today.
45:27
So I recorded the BBC World Service, I
45:31
recorded about two hours of it, and then
45:33
I go and get clips.
45:36
But the clips are very, the BBC World
45:39
Service and the BBC presentations, generally on audio,
45:42
are extremely dull.
45:45
And they're hard to clip.
45:46
I do have some clips today.
45:48
So I'm going through it about one half
45:51
hour into it.
45:52
I don't know, once in a while, I
45:53
do fall asleep at the computer.
45:57
Okay.
45:58
Okay.
45:59
But these guys, they drone on and on
46:03
and on.
46:03
Oh, and Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump.
46:07
And I conked out.
46:09
And it just kept on recording.
46:12
No, it wasn't recording, they were just playing
46:14
back.
46:14
I was looking for clips.
46:15
I pre-recorded the clip, the series.
46:17
Oh, you conked out.
46:18
I had about an hour and a half
46:19
recorded, and I'm going through the recording.
46:21
It's easier to do it that way for
46:23
me.
46:24
And so I conked out and I woke
46:26
up.
46:27
It's still going, yack, yack, yack.
46:29
And then Trump, blah, blah, blah.
46:31
And then I look up, hour.
46:36
I was out for an hour.
46:38
And this was this morning?
46:40
No, it was last night.
46:41
The BBC had knocked me out.
46:45
Literally put me to sleep because it's so
46:48
boring.
46:49
And it drones.
46:50
I want people to appreciate.
46:51
And there's no modulation in the voices.
46:53
It's just blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
46:55
And I was out for a, I looked
46:57
up the clock.
46:57
I said, oh, it's only like 10, 15.
46:59
Wait a minute, that's not 10, 15, that's
47:01
11, 15.
47:03
And I said, oh my God, I've been
47:04
out for an hour.
47:05
I don't know what they told me.
47:07
But I have to tell you, I didn't
47:08
go back to check, but I don't know
47:10
what, but subconsciously, now I've got a bunch
47:14
of bad information in my head.
47:18
Oh, you've been corrupted.
47:19
Oh, I understand.
47:20
Yes, they've mind-controlled you.
47:23
MKUltra.
47:24
Oh, yeah, okay.
47:25
Well, then that makes sense.
47:26
Hour.
47:26
So, all right, so then- Hour of
47:28
hypnosis, basically.
47:30
I didn't realize, but the show is hypnotic.
47:32
So you're forgiven then for your attitude.
47:35
Okay, no problem.
47:37
Yeah, it'll probably take a couple of weeks
47:38
to get over it.
47:40
We have to deprogram John, everybody.
47:43
Well, how about I lead you into your,
47:45
I'm looking at your list here, just a
47:48
factual overview, because I'm thinking this could be
47:53
massive theater between Trump and Marjorie Taylor Greene.
48:00
I really- I do have the Marjorie
48:01
Taylor Greene stuff, but I'm going to play
48:03
the UK Nexus, I think, first, because we're
48:05
still talking about that.
48:06
Okay, all right.
48:07
And then we'll get to Marjorie Taylor.
48:08
And I, by the way, I'm in agreement
48:10
that by the, and I got to Marjorie
48:11
Taylor Greene from the BBC stuff.
48:13
I must have fallen asleep shortly after that.
48:15
Yes.
48:15
The, you have no idea how upsetting that
48:19
is.
48:19
And I'm hearing it.
48:21
I'm feeling it in your voice.
48:25
I'm feeling it.
48:26
I feel you, bro.
48:28
UK Nexus report one.
48:30
It's long been said that one man's freedom
48:32
fighter is another's terrorist.
48:35
And perhaps the most striking example of someone
48:37
who illustrated that problem was Nelson Mandela, who
48:41
refused to renounce the use of non-state
48:43
sanctioned violence for political ends, but ended up
48:46
widely admired around the world.
48:49
Two current issues are sparking more debate on
48:51
this.
48:51
Here in the UK, there are many people
48:54
being arrested for holding pieces of paper saying,
48:57
I support Palestine action, a group that's campaigned
49:00
on Gaza and which spray painted some planes
49:03
on a UK airbase.
49:05
And then there are the ongoing military strikes
49:07
by the United States on Venezuelan and Colombian
49:10
boats accused of smuggling drugs, which the US
49:13
justifies as strikes on a terrorist organisation with
49:17
which it is at war.
49:19
Ben Saul is the UN special rapporteur on
49:21
counter-terrorism.
49:22
Ooh, rapporteur.
49:23
He's been thinking about these issues for many,
49:25
many years.
49:26
Yes.
49:26
How would he define terrorism?
49:29
I want to call myself the podcast rapporteur.
49:32
So wait, no, the funny thing, wait, the
49:35
funny thing is about the Venezuelan things.
49:37
When did they start?
49:38
They started like a month or two ago,
49:39
right?
49:40
Wait, you mean the drug boats?
49:41
But this guy's been thinking about it for
49:42
many, many years.
49:44
Why he's a rapporteur after all?
49:46
So as UN special rapporteur, we've had a
49:48
working definition since about 2006.
49:52
And we say it's certain kinds of criminal
49:55
violence intended to intimidate a population or compel
49:59
or coerce a government to do something.
50:02
And the action must cause death or serious
50:06
injury to persons.
50:08
Okay, so did he just say that what
50:11
this is about is we're just intimidating the
50:14
Venezuelans by blowing up their drug boats?
50:18
He's not saying that.
50:20
What he's doing is saying we are not
50:25
going after terrorists because by his definition, they're
50:28
not terrorists.
50:29
But what you just interpreted, I believe might
50:33
be the subtext.
50:35
So they might be, actually, he doesn't say
50:38
that, but I think- Can I do
50:40
something for you for a minute?
50:42
Just because you feel so bad about this
50:45
BBC brainwashing.
50:48
Yeah.
50:48
Okay, now I know you don't wear headphones,
50:50
so just get close to the speakers.
50:52
Get close to the speakers.
50:53
You ready?
50:54
Are you ready?
50:54
I'm gonna fix you.
50:55
You ready?
50:56
Yeah.
50:57
Okay.
50:58
You've been de-fragmented.
51:00
Okay, you're good now.
51:01
You're good to go.
51:02
I'm good.
51:03
What?
51:04
Hello?
51:04
It's fixed.
51:05
When are we starting the podcast?
51:11
Onward.
51:12
Yeah.
51:12
So on that basis, Nelson Mandela was a
51:16
terrorist or not?
51:17
Well, Nelson Mandela was part of a freedom
51:19
fighter movement.
51:20
And of course, this is one of the
51:22
longstanding debates going back many, many decades, whether
51:25
freedom fighters or indeed armed conflicts against an
51:29
occupying power should be regarded as terrorism.
51:34
Some of the international best practice standards suggest
51:37
that- Can you stop it for a
51:38
second?
51:38
Armed conflict?
51:38
Yeah.
51:39
I like the use of the occupying power.
51:43
Now, if you know the history of South
51:45
Africa, the Afrikaners went down.
51:47
It was abandoned.
51:48
There was nothing down there except some Hutus.
51:52
It was like, there wasn't anything to occupy
51:55
except vacant land.
51:58
South Africa was, there was nothing there.
52:01
It was occupied by the Dutch.
52:03
It was colonized by the Dutch.
52:05
Yeah, but they moved there, but it wasn't
52:08
like they took over from someone else.
52:10
It wasn't like the Belgian Congo.
52:13
Another fine North Sea Nexus outfit.
52:16
Yeah, the Belgian Congo.
52:17
They killed 100,000, what, a million people?
52:20
They killed so many people.
52:21
Yeah, at least.
52:22
They're just killing people left and right.
52:25
And it was different.
52:26
And so, you know, it's just because somebody's
52:29
there doesn't mean they're occupiers.
52:32
I mean, they like to make, that's the
52:34
point I'm trying to make is they try
52:35
to say the same thing.
52:36
We're occupying of Native American land.
52:39
That's what they would like to say.
52:40
Ah, yes, well.
52:42
That this idea is bull crap.
52:44
But as long as we pray over it,
52:45
it's okay, isn't it?
52:46
As long as we just thank them.
52:51
Yes, okay.
52:52
Freedom fighters or indeed armed conflict against an
52:55
occupying power should be regarded as terrorism.
52:59
Some of the international best practice standards suggest
53:02
that armed conflict should instead be regulated by
53:06
international humanitarian law.
53:08
The area of law that's built to regulate
53:10
war and terrorism instead should be peacetime violence
53:14
subject to domestic criminal law.
53:16
Wait a minute.
53:17
Everyone is bringing up this international law in
53:20
context of these boats.
53:22
What international law are they pointing to here?
53:27
I don't know.
53:28
They never say.
53:29
There is, I don't think there really, there's
53:30
no world court yet.
53:32
Is there?
53:33
No, there is the world criminal justice thing
53:35
and the world criminal court.
53:36
There's these two operations.
53:38
They talk about it in these clips that
53:40
we're not part of.
53:41
It's the Hague.
53:41
So what difference does it make?
53:43
It's in the seat of the enemy in
53:46
the Hague.
53:46
I gotta listen to that.
53:48
The U.S. drug war in Venezuela.
53:50
That's not a real war according to international
53:52
law, but President Trump, of course, is suggesting
53:55
that it is.
53:56
Yeah, so let's just deal with these two
53:57
other sort of current issues.
53:58
And you mentioned the Venezuelan one.
54:00
So that first of all, the Venezuelan one,
54:02
so that first of all, how much legal
54:03
opinion is there supporting the characterization of suspected,
54:09
suspected, suspected, suspected drug smugglers, maybe organized crime
54:13
being terrorists?
54:15
Man, that would have programmed my mind if
54:17
that clip came across.
54:18
I'd be like, what?
54:19
The mainstream overwhelming international legal opinion is that
54:24
this is not a war or an armed
54:26
conflict, that there is no right to use
54:29
military force to simply essentially murder narco traffickers
54:34
on the high seas.
54:35
Of course, the U.S. government.
54:37
Oh, that's interesting.
54:38
This is the first guy who is just
54:40
saying it correctly.
54:42
We're murdering narco dudes on the high seas.
54:46
Yes.
54:47
Everyone else has been like, well, they're fishermen.
54:49
Well, he says that too, by the way.
54:51
You let him, let him.
54:53
I'll let him ramble, let him ramble.
54:54
No right to use military force to simply
54:57
essentially murder narco traffickers on the high seas.
55:02
Of course, the U.S. government has put
55:04
its legal view that it is covered by
55:06
international humanitarian law and that somehow drug deaths
55:09
in the United States are somehow equivalent to
55:12
an armed attack on the United States, allowing
55:15
it to exercise self-defense.
55:17
But of course, that's nonsense in legal terms
55:20
and no serious international lawyer worth their salt
55:23
believes that.
55:24
Well, no.
55:25
And by the way, I think this show
55:26
needs an international lawyer.
55:28
I would like to have it.
55:28
It says, Rob, Rob Cardy, do you have
55:30
an international law degree?
55:32
I want to make sure that we're covered.
55:33
No, because that's not what it's about.
55:35
It's about stopping your money through the Caribbean
55:38
nations where you've been benefiting from this for
55:43
centuries.
55:45
Yeah, yeah.
55:46
It's not, it's not about.
55:48
They explain their own people.
55:49
Yeah.
55:52
We must continue.
55:54
Where would that get tested in a legal
55:56
body?
55:57
Which court would hear that if it went
55:58
to court?
55:59
Well, unfortunately, the United States has not accepted
56:02
the jurisdiction of the International Court of Justice.
56:05
Of course not.
56:06
It also hasn't accepted the International Criminal Court's
56:08
jurisdiction either.
56:10
And that's very deliberate because it doesn't want
56:12
to be held accountable by international institutions.
56:15
That's not just a Trump position, by the
56:17
way, that's a longstanding position of U.S.
56:19
administrations of all kinds.
56:21
That's why it makes it so much more
56:23
important that individual governments diplomatically protest these kinds
56:28
of killings.
56:28
I mean, we now think that- This
56:31
is so amazing.
56:33
There's countries doing all kinds of killings, including
56:36
us, including all kinds of African nations.
56:43
But this one is all of a sudden
56:45
a big deal.
56:47
Yeah, I mean, we know the reason why.
56:48
We know the reason why, yes.
56:50
The Trump administration has murdered at least 80
56:52
people in dozens of strikes.
56:55
And this is- I never heard the
56:56
BBC or this guy complain about Obama droning
56:59
people and their kids.
57:01
Never heard him about that.
57:02
Just incredible lawlessness, which is also sending a
57:06
signal to other states that they can act
57:08
that way and also get away with it.
57:10
Very strong language for a UN special rapporteur
57:13
to use.
57:14
But what is your take on whether a
57:16
suspected drug trafficker or an organized crime cartel
57:20
or something like that can be correctly described
57:24
as terrorists?
57:25
So certainly terrorist groups have long been engaged
57:30
in some forms of organized crime to raise
57:33
money for their cause.
57:34
Think of the Taliban in Afghanistan.
57:37
On the other hand, it's a really new
57:39
phenomenon for drug cartels to be labeled legally
57:43
as terrorists.
57:45
So the U.S. has done it, but
57:46
not only the U.S. I mean, it's
57:48
also in the last year or two years,
57:51
Canada, Honduras, Argentina, Ecuador.
57:54
Of course, in some circumstances, organized crime drug
57:58
cartels in places like Mexico or Colombia can
58:02
absolutely use violence to intimidate populations or even
58:06
to coerce or compel governments if you're targeting
58:09
judges or prosecutors or law enforcement officials.
58:14
Quite a few governments have an extra element
58:16
in their definition of terrorism, which I think
58:18
is quite a good one.
58:19
That's the case in the U.K., that
58:21
the violence also has to be done for
58:22
a political or ideological or religious cause.
58:27
And if you look at it that way,
58:28
then I don't think you can say organized
58:31
crime is terrorism.
58:34
You know, the Dutch diplomats are also open
58:38
arms about this.
58:40
Oh, America should stop this.
58:42
We should, they should stop doing this.
58:45
Never, you know, why?
58:46
It's like Rotterdam, man.
58:47
Hey, sales are down, people.
58:51
Well, your point about the, not bitching about
58:54
Obama doing this, the other thing about Obama,
58:57
he did it within sovereign borders of other
58:59
countries.
59:00
Yes, yeah, it was good.
59:01
We're doing it in the open sea.
59:04
Yeah.
59:07
All right, was that the last one?
59:08
No, no, you have a short fourth here.
59:10
Yeah.
59:10
The terrorism label, as we've seen in the
59:12
United States, it's often a pathway for abuses,
59:17
whether it's summary deportations of the alleged drug
59:20
cartel members, or now in the latest development,
59:23
the military targeting of civilians on civilian boats,
59:28
carrying allegedly drugs, but some of them, who
59:31
knows, might be fishermen, according to the report.
59:35
Yeah, there it is.
59:35
It's fishermen.
59:36
They always have four outboard engines, of course.
59:40
Yeah, and they always go like bats out
59:41
of hell and they have a bunch of
59:42
barrels.
59:43
I got some fish, I gotta get home.
59:45
I mean, I gotta get to the other
59:47
side of the sea real quick with my
59:49
fish.
59:50
Yeah, there's protests erupting everywhere over this.
59:53
The U.S. military released photos of the
59:55
firepower operating in the Caribbean Sea.
59:58
The Gerald R.
59:59
Ford Aircraft Carrier Strike Group joins another eight
1:00:02
warships, F-35 aircraft, and a nuclear submarine
1:00:06
already in the region, escalating President Donald Trump's
1:00:09
pressure campaign against Venezuela.
1:00:11
In an online post, the administration calls it
1:00:14
Operation Southern Spear.
1:00:16
Trump says he's basically decided whether or not
1:00:18
to take military action against Venezuela and the
1:00:20
government of Nicolas Maduro.
1:00:22
We'll see what happens.
1:00:23
I mean, I can't tell you what it
1:00:26
is, but we've made a lot of progress
1:00:28
with Venezuela in terms of stopping drugs from
1:00:31
pouring in.
1:00:32
But we have a Mexican- By the
1:00:33
way, Trump has really gotta stop doing these
1:00:35
things on Air Force One.
1:00:36
This sucks.
1:00:38
I mean, it's, every- He's always in
1:00:41
the little foyer by the door.
1:00:44
Yeah, the audio sucks.
1:00:47
This is not good for, it's hurting the
1:00:48
show.
1:00:49
No problem, we have a Colombian Trump.
1:00:51
Oh, well, hold on.
1:00:52
President Trump alleges- Can you run that
1:00:55
through Adobe and see if it cleans up?
1:00:57
I can, actually, but I didn't have time.
1:00:59
This came in late, but yes, I-
1:01:00
That's the other thing, you know, we don't
1:01:01
have time.
1:01:03
Yeah, you're right, Trump should stop doing that,
1:01:05
because we don't have time to have to
1:01:08
fix his clips.
1:01:09
No, we don't have time to fix your
1:01:11
clips, Mr. President.
1:01:13
President Trump alleges illegal drugs are coming from
1:01:15
both Colombia and Venezuela to the U.S.
1:01:18
U.S. military has carried out roughly 20
1:01:20
airstrikes on alleged drug vessels in international waters
1:01:23
and has yet to offer proof of narcotics
1:01:26
trafficking.
1:01:27
Outside the White House, protesters voiced their opposition
1:01:29
to the military aggression and the killings of
1:01:31
at least 80 people in boats off the
1:01:33
coast of Venezuela.
1:01:34
In Caracas, the Venezuelan president was engulfed by
1:01:37
a sea of supporters and addressed the crowd
1:01:40
partly in English.
1:01:41
The love and peace, the peace and love.
1:01:45
I love this.
1:01:46
Somebody make this into a techno song.
1:01:49
The love and peace, the peace and love.
1:01:52
Crowd partly in English.
1:01:53
The love and peace, the peace and love.
1:01:57
American fighter jets are once again operating in
1:02:00
Puerto Rico at the former military base, fueling
1:02:03
more speculation of the next U.S. moves.
1:02:05
I just can't see it any other way
1:02:07
as that we're blowing every single drug carrier
1:02:11
out of the water.
1:02:12
Colombia, no.
1:02:14
Venezuela, we're not gonna go after Venezuela.
1:02:16
If all of a sudden Gen Z rises
1:02:19
up in Venezuela, then we're going after Venezuela.
1:02:23
We're not gonna- But we don't have
1:02:24
to do anything.
1:02:24
The Gen Zs will make it happen.
1:02:27
They're actually effective.
1:02:29
If we want them to.
1:02:30
Yeah, no, no, we have to initiate it,
1:02:33
obviously, at least by our thesis.
1:02:35
We have to turn on the discourse.
1:02:35
And I'm in total agreement.
1:02:37
It's us.
1:02:38
Yeah.
1:02:40
Us as in U.S. Us, our people,
1:02:44
our agencies, whoever is behind it, you have
1:02:47
to guess it's one of the main-
1:02:49
This is a new era.
1:02:51
It's a new CIA.
1:02:53
They've kicked out the DEI.
1:02:54
Yeah, they've ousted a lot of the...
1:02:56
Brendan's on the run.
1:02:57
Yeah, got him out.
1:02:58
They've sorted out most of the DEI people
1:03:02
and I'm not sure they're completely clean.
1:03:05
But they still have a lot of young,
1:03:08
energetic, patriotic agents.
1:03:10
And they're like, no, no, no, no, no.
1:03:12
We just gotta get on the discord, buddy.
1:03:15
Come on, hold on a second.
1:03:16
Let me show you how it's done.
1:03:17
You want Charlie Kirk dead?
1:03:19
Let me get on the discord with this
1:03:20
kid.
1:03:21
The discord is where it's at.
1:03:25
There must be some great backdoors into that
1:03:27
thing.
1:03:28
We don't need a backdoor.
1:03:30
You just- No, I've never been on
1:03:31
it, so I don't know.
1:03:32
Now, should I?
1:03:33
Are you recommending that I get an account
1:03:36
so at least I know what I'm talking
1:03:37
about when it comes to discord?
1:03:39
Do you have an account?
1:03:41
I have an account on the Light Phone.
1:03:45
See, these discords, they're kind of like separate
1:03:47
little entities.
1:03:48
They're islands.
1:03:50
And imagine, it's like an old school BB
1:03:53
&T.
1:03:53
Yes, you got a forum, you got your
1:03:55
file upload.
1:03:57
See, this is why I'm probably not attracted
1:03:58
to it.
1:03:59
I've already gone through that phase.
1:04:01
No, it's not attractive, but it's where you
1:04:03
can upload your files and you can have
1:04:06
- You know, it's kind of a-
1:04:08
Is it like FTP?
1:04:09
Can I upload my huge files and give
1:04:11
them to- So I can send somebody
1:04:13
a 100 megabyte file?
1:04:15
It's drag and drop, baby.
1:04:16
Yeah.
1:04:18
So this took the place of Lockbox or
1:04:21
whatever the hell that thing was called?
1:04:22
Well, no.
1:04:23
I mean, this is what- Look, who's
1:04:28
on X?
1:04:30
Millennials- Who's on first?
1:04:31
Yeah, who?
1:04:33
Millennials and boomers are on X.
1:04:35
That's who's there.
1:04:37
The kids are not on X.
1:04:38
They're all on discord.
1:04:40
It started with the gamers.
1:04:42
I'm just giving my abbreviated version.
1:04:44
The gamers would be in these discord-
1:04:47
I should know all this to a extreme.
1:04:49
You don't need to know it.
1:04:50
You just sit there and sleep during the
1:04:52
BBC and I'll fill you in.
1:04:53
It's okay.
1:04:54
I'm going to have to go do something.
1:04:58
We could set up a no agenda discord.
1:05:01
I mean, I'm sure there already is one,
1:05:04
I'm sure.
1:05:05
And if anyone sets it up, we give
1:05:07
it about one year and three months before
1:05:10
it explodes.
1:05:11
Before they turn on us.
1:05:12
Like everything else.
1:05:15
All of a sudden, no agenda sucks.
1:05:20
Man, you need to come in.
1:05:22
If you're not posting on our discord enough,
1:05:24
you're no good.
1:05:26
Yeah, and then they start the Jew hate.
1:05:28
Oh no, no.
1:05:30
I need to check in with no authority,
1:05:32
see how they're doing over there.
1:05:34
Oh, it's out of control.
1:05:36
You've looked recently?
1:05:38
I haven't looked for months, but last time
1:05:40
I looked, it was out of control.
1:05:41
You might as well go to blue sky.
1:05:43
Same thing.
1:05:44
No, I haven't.
1:05:45
No, I don't think anyone looks at blue.
1:05:46
Blue sky seems to have fallen out of
1:05:48
favor, again, for the discord.
1:05:50
But this is it.
1:05:51
You set up a discord.
1:05:52
There's all kinds of things.
1:05:54
Who runs discord?
1:05:55
Is it a publicly traded company?
1:05:58
I don't think.
1:05:59
Is there some publicly traded angle here?
1:06:02
I don't think they're public.
1:06:04
Let me see.
1:06:08
Let me see.
1:06:09
Aboot, let me look at Aboot.
1:06:12
So anybody, I mean, they're clearly, they have,
1:06:15
their financing is very unclear.
1:06:19
Yes, because this is a spooked operation.
1:06:22
I believe it to be mainly a spook
1:06:24
operation.
1:06:25
Here we go, Aboot.
1:06:26
Let me see.
1:06:27
Discord was- We can deconstruct this right
1:06:29
on the floor.
1:06:29
By the way, people were doing this on
1:06:31
the fly.
1:06:32
We're going to deconstruct how involved the CIA
1:06:35
is on dimension one of the agencies.
1:06:39
Aboot page.
1:06:40
Discord was built to solve one problem.
1:06:43
How do we mind control kids to do
1:06:45
our bidding?
1:06:47
How to talk- It doesn't say that.
1:06:49
How to talk with friends while gaming together,
1:06:52
but much like the protagonists of our favorite
1:06:55
game stories, all journeys have their humble beginnings.
1:06:59
That's spook language if I ever saw it.
1:07:01
Totally.
1:07:02
I agree.
1:07:03
Jason Citron established, this is a timeline.
1:07:07
2012 is when this started.
1:07:09
2012.
1:07:10
2012, yes.
1:07:11
That's important.
1:07:13
April- That's when Obama got reelected.
1:07:15
Yes, 2013.
1:07:18
Stanislav Vizhevonitsky joins Jason as they continue working
1:07:21
together on their upcoming mobile game.
1:07:25
So a lot of this is game, game,
1:07:27
game, game.
1:07:27
Spring 2016.
1:07:29
Let me see if we go beyond game.
1:07:31
Summer 2016.
1:07:32
Discord brings the power to voice call friends
1:07:35
directly in DMs and group DMs, and unleashes
1:07:38
one of its most popular features of all
1:07:40
time, the ability to upload and use custom
1:07:43
emojis in servers.
1:07:45
Oh yeah.
1:07:46
Once you get those- Oh, there's nothing
1:07:47
more important than a custom emoji.
1:07:49
That would account for the skull and crossbones
1:07:52
with a little straw hat.
1:07:56
Let me see.
1:07:57
So this is all gaming, gaming, gaming.
1:08:01
Oh, spring 2025.
1:08:03
Jason announces his transition from CEO to board
1:08:06
member and advisor.
1:08:08
Humam Saknini becomes Discord's new CEO.
1:08:11
I think we already deconstructed this, that this
1:08:14
Humam Saknini guy, he's a Brit, pretty sure.
1:08:19
Let me see.
1:08:21
His name's Human?
1:08:23
Humam, Humam.
1:08:25
This is the guy from McKinsey, King Digital,
1:08:30
all British, all British.
1:08:33
He was- Well, how is it our
1:08:36
op?
1:08:38
Well, we could still be working with him.
1:08:42
Maybe it isn't, maybe, who knows?
1:08:44
But the British aren't that creative to do
1:08:46
these kinds of things that we're talking about.
1:08:50
But this guy came from Activision, Activision Blizzard.
1:08:55
Anyway.
1:08:56
Is that the right sounding back?
1:08:57
Anyway, anybody can set up a Discord.
1:08:59
That's basically the whole idea.
1:09:01
You set up a Discord, it's free.
1:09:03
If you want certain functionality, you have to
1:09:06
pay for it, I believe.
1:09:07
There's a missing piece of this puzzle, it
1:09:09
seems to me.
1:09:10
Right.
1:09:12
Well, anyway, that's where the kids are.
1:09:14
The kids are on the Discord.
1:09:15
If you're hip with it, you're not on
1:09:18
X.
1:09:18
You're on Discord.
1:09:19
You're on a, you have your own Discord
1:09:21
server.
1:09:22
And I think we should have one.
1:09:26
For as long as it lasts.
1:09:27
We have plenty of people that can set
1:09:28
one up.
1:09:28
Yeah, we'll join.
1:09:30
We'll get an account.
1:09:32
Maybe you should have Kobol do it.
1:09:36
Oh, Patrick Kobol?
1:09:38
Because he could, he could manage it.
1:09:40
He's of the sort that he could, he
1:09:43
would be brutal.
1:09:44
Yeah, yeah, no, he would slice and dice.
1:09:46
He wouldn't put up with it.
1:09:47
Yeah, he wouldn't put up with any.
1:09:48
I don't know if he has time in
1:09:50
his life for it, but I could ask
1:09:51
him.
1:09:53
He has time.
1:09:55
He's a busy guy.
1:09:56
He puts it, he makes you think he
1:09:58
doesn't, but guys like that always do.
1:10:00
All right, now we're going to move to
1:10:02
what I really, I'm just thinking like, we've
1:10:07
seen this with Tucker.
1:10:08
We've seen it with Elon.
1:10:10
Like, oh, big fight.
1:10:11
And then they go off and they do
1:10:13
their thing.
1:10:13
And there's reconciliation.
1:10:15
And Tucker is somehow involved in this, you
1:10:18
know, rooting out of entities unwanted in the
1:10:23
Republican Party and probably unwanted in the-
1:10:26
This one here, I can't disagree with you
1:10:28
on any of this because I felt the
1:10:30
same way when it first started.
1:10:31
Now at my clips, I got an NPR
1:10:33
and two BBCs.
1:10:34
Why don't I play the, because what I
1:10:36
have is straight up reads of what Trump
1:10:38
posted and what Marjorie Taylor Greene replied.
1:10:42
So it's just a set of- By
1:10:43
the, that should go first.
1:10:45
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
1:10:45
So it's straight read of, instead of me
1:10:48
reading it, we got some other nut job
1:10:49
reading it.
1:10:50
Right.
1:10:50
I want to read you again what President
1:10:52
Trump said on Truth Social.
1:10:55
He said, I am withdrawing my support and
1:10:57
endorsement of Congresswoman Marjorie Taylor Greene of the
1:11:00
great state of Georgia.
1:11:01
Over the past few weeks, despite my creating
1:11:04
record achievements for our country, including a total
1:11:08
and complete victory on the shutdown, closed borders,
1:11:12
low taxes, no men in women's sports or
1:11:15
transgender for everyone, ending DEI, stopping Biden's record
1:11:20
-setting inflation, the biggest regulation cuts in history,
1:11:25
stopping eight wards, rebuilding our military, being respected
1:11:29
by every country in the world, as opposed
1:11:32
to being the laughing stock that we were
1:11:34
just 12 months ago, having trillions of dollars
1:11:37
record-setting invested in the USA, and having
1:11:41
created the hottest country anywhere in the world
1:11:44
from being a dead country just 12 months
1:11:47
ago, and so much more.
1:11:49
He says, all I see wacky Marjorie do
1:11:52
is complain, complain, complain.
1:11:54
He went on to say, it seemed to
1:11:56
all begin when I sent her a poll
1:11:58
stating that she should not run for senator
1:12:00
or governor.
1:12:01
She was at 12% and didn't have
1:12:04
a chance, unless of course she had my
1:12:06
endorsement, which she wasn't about to get.
1:12:09
He said, she has told many people that
1:12:11
she's upset that I don't return her phone
1:12:13
calls anymore, but with 219 congressmen and women,
1:12:17
53 US senators, 24 cabinet members, and almost
1:12:21
200 countries, and an otherwise normal life to
1:12:25
lead, I can't take ranting lunatics calls every
1:12:29
day, he says.
1:12:30
I understand that wonderful conservative people are thinking
1:12:33
about primary Marjorie in her district of Georgia,
1:12:36
that they too are fed up with her
1:12:39
and her antics, and if the right person
1:12:42
runs, they will have my complete and unyielding
1:12:45
support.
1:12:46
She has gone far left, even doing The
1:12:48
View with their low IQ Republican hating anchors.
1:12:53
Trump says, thank you for your attention to
1:12:55
this matter, make America great again.
1:12:59
So when I hear this, I'm like, nah,
1:13:02
really?
1:13:03
And here's her reply.
1:13:04
She posted this, she said, President Trump just
1:13:06
attacked me and lied about me.
1:13:08
I haven't called him at all, but I
1:13:10
did send these text messages today.
1:13:14
We will show you those in a moment.
1:13:15
She said, apparently this is what sent him
1:13:17
over the edge, the Epstein files, and of
1:13:20
course he's coming.
1:13:21
Now, I just gotta stop here for a
1:13:23
second.
1:13:24
Three weeks ago, Marjorie Taylor Greene was all
1:13:27
about Israel, Israel, Israel, Israel, Israel, AIPAC, Israel,
1:13:32
AIPAC, Israel.
1:13:33
Boom, boom, boom, it had dropped.
1:13:36
And now it's Epstein, Epstein, Epstein.
1:13:39
I feel a setup in this.
1:13:42
This is the setup.
1:13:44
Epstein files, and of course he's coming after
1:13:47
me hard to make an example, to scare
1:13:49
all the other Republicans before next week's vote
1:13:53
to release the Epstein files.
1:13:55
She says, it's astonishing really how hard he's
1:13:57
fighting to stop the Epstein files from coming
1:14:00
out and that he actually goes to this
1:14:04
level, she says.
1:14:05
She went on to say, but really most
1:14:07
Americans wish he would fight this hard to
1:14:10
help the forgotten men and women of America
1:14:12
who are fed up with foreign wars and
1:14:15
foreign causes, are going broke trying to feed
1:14:18
their families, and are losing hope of ever
1:14:21
achieving the American dream.
1:14:23
That's what I voted for.
1:14:25
I have supported President Trump with too much
1:14:27
of my precious time, too much of my
1:14:29
own money, and fought harder for him, even
1:14:32
when almost all other Republicans turned their back
1:14:36
and denounced him.
1:14:38
And she also said, but I don't worship
1:14:40
or serve President Trump.
1:14:42
I worship God, Jesus is my savior.
1:14:45
And I serve my district, GA14, and the
1:14:48
American people.
1:14:49
I remain the same today as I've always
1:14:51
been.
1:14:52
And I will continue to pray that this
1:14:54
administration will be successful because the American people
1:14:58
desperately deserve what they voted for.
1:15:01
She said, for me, I remain America first
1:15:04
and America only.
1:15:06
And then she's bringing in the MAGA versus
1:15:08
America first.
1:15:10
Yes, that's a classic split.
1:15:15
And can you spell posturing?
1:15:19
P-O-S.
1:15:20
That's what the two of them are doing.
1:15:22
Well, this is W-W.
1:15:24
Bull crap.
1:15:24
Yeah, WWF is what I'm feeling here.
1:15:27
This is a classic.
1:15:28
Oh, yes, exactly.
1:15:30
This is what Trump does.
1:15:31
I mean, he understands this kind of show
1:15:34
business.
1:15:35
His pencil neck geek.
1:15:36
Yeah.
1:15:39
All right, so what did you get?
1:15:40
So did she go on the BBC?
1:15:42
Is that what these clips are from?
1:15:43
No, these are just analysis clips, pretty much
1:15:46
not the classic analysis.
1:15:48
What is the BBC doing analysis on Marjorie
1:15:51
Taylor Greene?
1:15:51
Well, isn't that interesting?
1:15:54
Well, let's start with the NPR clip, because
1:15:56
that's a short summary.
1:15:58
Okay, here we go.
1:15:59
President Trump is cutting ties with Congresswoman Marjorie
1:16:02
Taylor Greene.
1:16:03
The president posting on social media, announcing he's
1:16:06
withdrawn support from the Georgia Republican.
1:16:09
NPR's Ava Pukac reports that Greene suspects the
1:16:13
rift came from her support for the release
1:16:15
of the Epstein files.
1:16:17
In his post, Trump called for conservatives to
1:16:19
primary Greene, saying, quote, if the right person
1:16:22
runs, they will have my complete and unyielding
1:16:25
support.
1:16:26
Greene said in a post of her own
1:16:28
that she had sent the president a text
1:16:30
regarding the Epstein files, which she said, quote,
1:16:33
sent him over the edge.
1:16:35
She said Trump is trying to make an
1:16:36
example of her to scare other Republicans ahead
1:16:39
of the House's vote to force the release
1:16:42
of the Epstein files.
1:16:44
Greene has been a longtime Trump ally and
1:16:46
prominent MAGA figure, but she's been at odds
1:16:48
with the president, notably in calling for the
1:16:51
Justice Department to release the files about the
1:16:53
late convicted sex offender Jeffrey Epstein.
1:16:56
Okay.
1:16:57
Now, a couple of things there.
1:16:59
One is that this is drawing attention to
1:17:02
the Epstein file.
1:17:03
To the Epstein file vote.
1:17:03
To the vote.
1:17:04
It's drawing attention.
1:17:05
To the vote.
1:17:05
Yes.
1:17:05
And Trump is against it, so that means
1:17:09
that the people, you know, will have to
1:17:11
show their independence.
1:17:11
Well, hold on, hold on.
1:17:12
He hasn't actually said he's against it.
1:17:15
No, he doesn't have to.
1:17:18
This rift, this points it out.
1:17:20
I think the rift between him and MTG,
1:17:22
which is, you and I agree, is scripted
1:17:25
bull crap.
1:17:27
To get attention, like, well, he doesn't want
1:17:30
this to happen, and so he's gonna bring
1:17:33
out the independent Republicans to make sure they
1:17:35
vote for it.
1:17:36
That would be Massey, that would be her,
1:17:38
probably a couple others.
1:17:39
And then they got the new woman in
1:17:41
from the Democrat side.
1:17:42
The Democrats, of course, because Trump doesn't want
1:17:44
this, are gonna, oh, yes.
1:17:46
They're all gonna vote for it.
1:17:47
And at the end of the day, at
1:17:49
least by both, and we both agree on
1:17:51
this, the Epstein files get released, and it
1:17:54
embarrasses a bunch of Democrats and a bunch
1:17:57
of big shots, and Trump says, hey, I
1:17:59
never wanted this released, and now you know
1:18:01
why.
1:18:02
You can blame these bastards for doing it.
1:18:05
Marjorie Taylor Greene is, like, in the middle,
1:18:08
because it doesn't matter what side she takes.
1:18:11
She said, well, I didn't know.
1:18:12
I wasn't ready.
1:18:13
And, oh, poor thing.
1:18:14
And- That's what makes sense to me.
1:18:19
And by the, I mean, just as a
1:18:23
very, very short one, and I have more
1:18:24
of this later, because it's from Valuetainment and
1:18:28
it's 14 seconds, I think there's always time
1:18:30
for a 14-minute Valuetainment clip.
1:18:32
14 seconds, yeah.
1:18:34
Yeah.
1:18:35
This is Michael Wolff on Valuetainment.
1:18:39
He got his tit in a ringer.
1:18:41
Well, but here's what he says.
1:18:42
Epstein believed that it was Trump who first
1:18:45
informed the police about what was going on
1:18:48
at Epstein's house.
1:18:51
And from that point on, they were nothing
1:18:54
but bitter enemies.
1:18:57
This is, like, this is not unknown.
1:18:59
I mean, Mike Johnson said it a long
1:19:01
time ago.
1:19:02
He said, I think Trump was an informant
1:19:03
for the FBI against Epstein.
1:19:06
But, you know, that doesn't matter because my
1:19:09
ex-timeline is filled with hate about, you
1:19:14
know, you and me, you know, we're protecting
1:19:15
pedophiles now and we helped get Trump elected.
1:19:19
You know, you don't even know, you're so
1:19:22
wrong.
1:19:23
Yeah, bleh, bleh, bleh, bleh, bleh, bleh, bleh,
1:19:25
bleh.
1:19:25
There's that guy again.
1:19:26
I don't know why we can't get rid
1:19:27
of him.
1:19:28
You know, I, I'm.
1:19:30
Okay, so let's go to, your point that
1:19:33
you made, and I, this is the point.
1:19:36
Why does the BBC care?
1:19:38
Yeah, let's find out.
1:19:40
So here we go with the BBC talking
1:19:42
about American amounts to gossip, talking about MTG
1:19:47
versus Trump.
1:19:48
President Trump has hit out at one of
1:19:50
his hitherto most reliable allies, Georgia Congresswoman Marjorie
1:19:55
Taylor Greene.
1:19:56
She has been speaking out, criticising the US
1:19:59
close relationship with Israel, for example, calling for
1:20:03
the release of the Justice Department files on
1:20:06
convicted sex offender Jeffrey Epstein as well.
1:20:09
And the president has now described her as
1:20:11
a disgrace and wacky.
1:20:13
The BBC's Nomia Iqbal joins us live from
1:20:16
Washington.
1:20:17
So look, this is a row between two,
1:20:20
you know, big media figures, one the president
1:20:22
obviously, but also Marjorie Taylor Greene, very prominent
1:20:25
on the TV screens.
1:20:26
Is it just that, a sort of spat
1:20:27
between two people or does it represent something
1:20:30
bigger?
1:20:30
I think it's quite easy.
1:20:31
Certainly I had a moment there where you
1:20:34
feel a bit cynical and think, well, is
1:20:36
it just, yeah, two very close people who
1:20:38
have fallen out.
1:20:38
But I think it's much more than that.
1:20:40
Marjorie Taylor Greene is this real firebrand, a
1:20:42
loyal foot soldier to Donald Trump.
1:20:46
She's, you know, known for fuelling unsubstantiated conspiracy
1:20:49
theories, but her devotion to Mr. Trump has
1:20:52
been unquestionable.
1:20:53
She stood by his 2020 claims of election
1:20:56
fraud.
1:20:57
She supported him in the wake of the
1:20:58
Epstein controversy, actually.
1:20:59
She said she believed that President Trump had
1:21:01
no involvement in the sex scandal.
1:21:04
But in the recent months, she's really started
1:21:06
breaking ranks with him.
1:21:08
As you mentioned there, she has distanced herself
1:21:10
from the US and Trump's very close relationship
1:21:14
with Israel.
1:21:15
She is the only Republican to refer to
1:21:17
what's happening in Gaza as a genocide.
1:21:20
She has criticized his tariff policy.
1:21:24
How about this?
1:21:25
How about this is exactly the intended result
1:21:28
because, and this is just a dream scenario.
1:21:31
In my scenario, we force the vote and
1:21:35
everything gets released and the biggest pedophiles are
1:21:40
all British.
1:21:42
Many of them from the BBC itself, which
1:21:45
is not completely unthinkable.
1:21:47
How many pedophiles have had to leave the
1:21:49
BBC in the past 10 years?
1:21:52
Quite a lot.
1:21:53
Bring in some more royalty.
1:21:56
I'm sure we can bring in someone.
1:21:57
Look who's gone down.
1:21:59
That's an extreme interpretation of what might happen.
1:22:03
Andrew Mandelson.
1:22:05
Yeah, and who has had to leave the
1:22:07
lodge.
1:22:09
I mean, at this point, who gives a
1:22:11
rat's ass about Clinton?
1:22:13
Like, duh, Clinton and young girls.
1:22:15
Oh, okay, I'm shocked.
1:22:17
Bill Gates and young girls.
1:22:20
Shocked, yeah, shocked, okay.
1:22:22
But I think that there possibly could be,
1:22:25
this is where people get on my X
1:22:26
-Time.
1:22:27
Oh, 5-D chess again, eh?
1:22:32
Maybe.
1:22:34
No, what was that?
1:22:35
5-D chess.
1:22:37
Oh, 5-D?
1:22:39
Yes, now it's 5-D.
1:22:41
You know, I get blamed for things you
1:22:43
say.
1:22:44
It's incredible.
1:22:46
That's just because it's the way I do
1:22:48
it.
1:22:49
I do it in such a way that
1:22:51
you will get blamed.
1:22:52
I mean, it's a technique.
1:22:54
Believe me, if you had any idea what
1:22:56
the technique was, you'd employ it yourself.
1:22:59
Teach me, master.
1:23:00
Teach me.
1:23:01
No, that one I keep to myself.
1:23:03
Teach me how to do it.
1:23:06
All right, let's play clip two.
1:23:08
She's just increasingly going against him and doing
1:23:11
more media with a lot of outlets that
1:23:14
maybe in the past she wouldn't have.
1:23:16
And I think the Epstein scandal is something
1:23:19
that has really come between them both.
1:23:21
And just looking at her social media, her
1:23:24
view is very much that the Epstein files
1:23:28
should be released, all of them.
1:23:29
And she's very upset that he's not doing
1:23:32
that.
1:23:32
And I think why it's significant is because
1:23:35
we're talking about the MAGA base, the Make
1:23:37
America Great Again.
1:23:38
This is a very loyal base of Donald
1:23:40
Trump.
1:23:41
And splitting away from that, I think is
1:23:44
significant, especially when it comes to Marjorie Taylor
1:23:46
Greene.
1:23:46
And I think what we're seeing is a
1:23:47
split between those establishment MAGA and the America
1:23:51
First Right.
1:23:54
These are the people like Ms. Greene who
1:23:56
believe they are adhering to the principles that
1:23:58
Donald Trump campaigned on.
1:24:00
Don't want to be too journalistically cynical, but
1:24:03
I mean, I guess this is a fair
1:24:04
question.
1:24:04
Is she driven by these issues or is
1:24:07
she driven by presidential ambitions and creating a
1:24:09
bit of clear water between them with a
1:24:11
view to what might be happening in three
1:24:13
years time?
1:24:14
Well, this is certainly what the cynics amongst
1:24:17
Donald Trump circles are saying that this is
1:24:19
all about because he didn't let her run
1:24:23
for the governor race in Georgia, for the
1:24:25
Senate ambitions as well.
1:24:27
I actually know someone pretty close to Marjorie
1:24:30
Taylor Greene and some of her friends who
1:24:32
have said that that's not true and that
1:24:35
she basically doesn't agree with a lot of
1:24:37
what he stands for and that they're constantly
1:24:39
fighting.
1:24:40
And she had been fearing for her safety
1:24:43
in terms of how other people in that
1:24:46
world may view her, her stance and actually
1:24:50
on her social media, she's now saying that
1:24:52
she is facing a lot of threats.
1:24:54
Yeah, everyone's facing threats.
1:24:56
Megyn Kelly, everyone's facing threats.
1:24:59
But these 20,000 plus emails didn't even
1:25:03
come from the FBI or the State Department.
1:25:05
They came from Epstein's estate.
1:25:09
And you might not have heard this, but
1:25:12
during the 2019 house hearing of Michael Cohen,
1:25:16
Trump's fixer, Epstein was texting with the Democrat
1:25:21
from Stacey Plaskett, the Democrat from the U
1:25:26
.S. Virgin Islands, non-voting member, actually, but
1:25:29
he's texting with her.
1:25:32
Oh, no, you gotta talk about Rona, referring
1:25:35
to his personal secretary, Rona.
1:25:38
I forget what her last name was.
1:25:39
Everybody has Rona's, Rona Graf.
1:25:42
Everybody has her number.
1:25:44
You know, so it's so obvious that Trump
1:25:47
has nothing, nothing anywhere that is bad for
1:25:51
him, but only for Democrats, Brits, elites.
1:25:57
I mean, it's just, this seems like you're
1:25:59
so right.
1:26:00
Like, yeah, I told you, you didn't wanna
1:26:02
do it.
1:26:03
It's just a little too early.
1:26:05
It should be closer to the midterms.
1:26:06
Yeah, no, they have to push it off
1:26:08
as long as they can.
1:26:09
So then this morning, Massey comes on ABC.
1:26:13
By the way, can I just stop for
1:26:15
a second?
1:26:16
I am sick of this guy.
1:26:19
I mean, he's entertaining, he's affable, he's got,
1:26:22
everything's a joke to him.
1:26:24
He's like a classic old-fashioned right winger
1:26:27
from the 70s, and he thinks that he
1:26:31
knows better than everyone else, and he doesn't
1:26:32
like to play ball.
1:26:34
He's not that old.
1:26:35
He can't be from the 70s.
1:26:37
No, no, he's got, no, I said he's
1:26:38
the style of a 70s right winger.
1:26:43
If you used to listen to 70s talk
1:26:45
shows, 70s and 80s talk shows, with the
1:26:49
right wingers, they all had a certain kind
1:26:51
of a glib style, a I know more
1:26:53
than you do, it was a very obnoxious
1:26:56
presentation, and I can't explain it any better
1:26:59
than that.
1:27:00
In the 70s, I was watching Speed Racer
1:27:02
and Romper Room.
1:27:03
Yeah, well, yeah, I'm sure you were.
1:27:07
You didn't have to, and you were also
1:27:09
not here, you weren't listening to American talk
1:27:12
radio, for sure.
1:27:13
Let me ask you a question.
1:27:14
If your wife died suddenly, how long do
1:27:18
you feel it appropriate before you remarry?
1:27:22
Depends.
1:27:24
I'm just asking on a personal level, what
1:27:27
do you think?
1:27:28
I think you could do it within a
1:27:30
year.
1:27:31
Yeah, that's exactly what he did.
1:27:34
It depends on your personal, it depends on
1:27:37
your type, what kind of person you are.
1:27:39
If you're like a couple, or somebody just,
1:27:41
you know, just gloms on, you know, women,
1:27:44
and gets married, or just couples up real
1:27:48
fast, it could be pretty quick.
1:27:50
I just, I thought it was quick.
1:27:52
If you're already having an affair with somebody,
1:27:54
and then you've liked that.
1:27:54
Well, he knew her a long time before.
1:27:57
I don't know.
1:27:57
See, that's always suspicious to me.
1:27:59
Yeah, I know, I mean, I have no
1:28:01
standing in this area, personally, so, but here
1:28:05
he is.
1:28:06
Let's listen to what he has to say.
1:28:08
He also has changed his look.
1:28:11
He looks a lot younger with the beard.
1:28:13
Oh, he's got the new lady.
1:28:14
The beard.
1:28:16
Yeah.
1:28:16
Well, he's got a beard now, what?
1:28:18
Yeah, he's got a beard, mustache.
1:28:19
Oh, I gotta look this up, okay.
1:28:21
It looks much better, I have to say.
1:28:22
He looks younger in this.
1:28:24
As a TV producer, I'm just saying, I
1:28:27
think he's reinvented his character.
1:28:28
We're joined now by Republican Congressman Thomas Massey
1:28:31
of Kentucky, who led the effort to release
1:28:34
the Epstein files.
1:28:35
Congressman Massey, thank you for being here.
1:28:37
President Trump fought long and hard to prevent
1:28:40
your discharge petition from going through.
1:28:42
You won that battle.
1:28:44
Now, what happens?
1:28:46
How many Republicans in the House follow your
1:28:49
lead and defy the president on this?
1:28:51
A lot of them.
1:28:53
I think we could have a deluge of
1:28:55
Republicans.
1:28:56
There could be 100 or more.
1:28:57
I'm hoping to get a veto-proof majority
1:28:59
on this legislation when it comes up for
1:29:01
a vote.
1:29:02
And the president's been saying this is a
1:29:05
hoax.
1:29:05
He's been saying that for months.
1:29:07
Well, he's just now decided to investigate a
1:29:10
hoax if it's a hoax.
1:29:12
And I have another concern about these investigations
1:29:14
that he's announced.
1:29:16
If they have ongoing investigations in certain areas,
1:29:19
those documents can't be released.
1:29:21
So this might be a big smoke screen,
1:29:23
these investigations, to open a bunch of them
1:29:25
as a last-ditch effort to prevent the
1:29:28
release of the Epstein files.
1:29:30
I mean, it is extraordinary to hear him
1:29:32
demand an investigation and only mention Democrats, only
1:29:36
mention his political opponents, but you're saying he
1:29:39
may not really even want any investigation, he
1:29:42
wants to prevent the release.
1:29:43
Why does he wanna prevent this?
1:29:45
What is he afraid of?
1:29:47
What is he afraid of?
1:29:48
What could be?
1:29:49
You know, I've never said that these files
1:29:51
will implicate Donald Trump.
1:29:53
And I really don't think that they will.
1:29:56
I think he's trying to protect a bunch
1:29:57
of rich and powerful friends, billionaires, donors, to
1:30:01
his campaign, friends in his social circles.
1:30:04
And that's my operating theory on why he's
1:30:08
trying so hard to keep these files closed.
1:30:10
That doesn't seem at all plausible.
1:30:13
I don't think he cares.
1:30:14
First of all, he doesn't need money to
1:30:16
get reelected.
1:30:17
So why are you protecting your donors?
1:30:20
Perfect, yeah.
1:30:21
Is there some kind of loyalty?
1:30:23
He'll throw anybody under the bus for anything.
1:30:25
He does it all the time.
1:30:26
And he will do it.
1:30:27
Yes.
1:30:28
Yeah.
1:30:28
All the time.
1:30:29
Yeah, this has to do with the 2016.
1:30:35
2026.
1:30:37
2020, 2016, geez.
1:30:40
2026 election.
1:30:41
So if our thesis, because it's just a
1:30:44
thesis, it's not that we go to bed
1:30:45
at night hoping for this, although it would
1:30:48
be kind of cool if there was a
1:30:49
whole bunch of pedophiles at the BBC.
1:30:52
No, that would be, that part is new
1:30:54
to the thesis.
1:30:54
That would be ideal.
1:30:55
That would be ideal.
1:30:56
I think it would be pretty funny.
1:30:58
It's possible.
1:30:58
We kind of papered over that Jim will
1:31:01
fix it business.
1:31:03
Don't talk about it.
1:31:04
No, forget about the kids and the TV
1:31:07
show with the kids and the corpses.
1:31:09
No, let's just not talk about that.
1:31:12
Maybe Massey is a part of it.
1:31:14
Maybe Massey is, because he seems like-
1:31:17
No.
1:31:17
You think he's a willing idiot in this
1:31:21
particular case?
1:31:23
He has to be.
1:31:23
This guy, if you just listen to him
1:31:25
enough, you couldn't trust him to be part,
1:31:27
you couldn't trust to read him in.
1:31:29
You just get the sense that, yeah, you
1:31:31
could read him in and he would blow
1:31:34
it up.
1:31:35
You just don't, he's just one of those
1:31:37
guys, I believe, I could be wrong.
1:31:39
He may be a player.
1:31:41
I just do not think he, I think
1:31:42
he's an independent guy that doesn't, you read
1:31:44
him in on something, he'd be aghast, think
1:31:46
it's disgusting, the scheme would be, why would
1:31:49
you try to scheme against the American public?
1:31:52
The files would have to be, would have
1:31:54
to have something so awesome that you could
1:31:58
drag it out for, well, essentially 10 more
1:32:03
months in media.
1:32:06
Because let's say this comes out, let's say
1:32:09
maybe January, I think it probably won't happen
1:32:12
until then.
1:32:14
There'll be some other, Trump will probably do
1:32:16
some more like, oh, and then just, oh,
1:32:19
whatever.
1:32:20
Okay, let's say the vote goes, they have
1:32:22
to release the files.
1:32:24
Yeah, she can slow walk it.
1:32:26
She can slow walk it probably to February,
1:32:28
March.
1:32:29
Okay.
1:32:29
At some point.
1:32:30
But still, it has to be so egregious
1:32:33
that you can drag everyone down into it
1:32:35
for six months.
1:32:36
That's a long time.
1:32:38
I know, this is a real problem.
1:32:40
I see it the same way.
1:32:41
All right, let's check out, click.
1:32:43
Because of the quick, the cycle of, people
1:32:45
just forget.
1:32:48
You know, this is what Schumer's banking on,
1:32:51
you know, that the thing's gonna blow over
1:32:53
and he's gonna be, you know.
1:32:54
People already forgot about the shutdown.
1:32:56
Yes, it's true.
1:32:57
They've already forgotten Schumer's good to go.
1:32:59
He's back on track.
1:33:00
No, we're already done.
1:33:01
What do you think is actually in these
1:33:03
files?
1:33:03
I mean, we've seen so much Epstein material
1:33:06
from the criminal cases, the stuff that just
1:33:09
came out this week, you know, from the
1:33:11
estate.
1:33:11
What do you think is left?
1:33:12
Yeah.
1:33:14
You know, they talk and talk and talk
1:33:15
about these files.
1:33:18
Have you noticed that not one person, including
1:33:20
us, have mentioned the real deal on these,
1:33:26
the videotapes.
1:33:27
That's what we want.
1:33:29
Well, maybe files, they imply.
1:33:31
No, they can imply all they want.
1:33:33
They're not talking about the tapes.
1:33:36
We want tapes.
1:33:38
The tapes.
1:33:39
The CDs, the CD-ROMs. I think it's
1:33:41
all CD-ROMs. Well, whatever they are, it
1:33:42
doesn't matter.
1:33:42
But there's recordings, the recordings of people in
1:33:46
the bedrooms.
1:33:47
I don't even think there's that much of
1:33:50
that.
1:33:50
I, they said there was, there was closets
1:33:53
full.
1:33:55
Let's find out.
1:33:57
You know, we're all going to be on
1:33:58
edge.
1:33:59
We're just waiting for this.
1:34:01
Epstein material from the criminal cases, the stuff
1:34:03
that just came out this week, you know,
1:34:05
from the estate.
1:34:06
What do you think is left?
1:34:08
Yeah, I don't have to guess at what's
1:34:10
in the files.
1:34:11
I've talked to the survivors through their lawyer,
1:34:13
and we know there are at least 20
1:34:15
people in those files.
1:34:17
There are politicians, billionaires, movie producers who are
1:34:20
implicated criminally, who haven't been investigated.
1:34:24
And it's up to the FBI, not the
1:34:26
survivors and the DOJ to release those names,
1:34:29
or at least to investigate them.
1:34:31
And when I see Donald Trump announce a
1:34:33
bunch of investigations, I don't see him going
1:34:36
after these rich elites that are implicated in
1:34:40
these files, according to the survivors.
1:34:42
So the BBC, again, BBC wrote an article
1:34:47
about who else was mentioned in, it says
1:34:50
Epstein files, but I think that's just these
1:34:52
emails.
1:34:52
So Michael Wolff, we know that.
1:34:55
The Larry Summers is interesting.
1:34:58
Yeah.
1:34:59
I think that's, now he was, what was
1:35:04
his job previously?
1:35:05
He was in the treasury.
1:35:06
He was, yeah.
1:35:07
Right, right.
1:35:09
Katherine Rumler.
1:35:12
Yeah.
1:35:13
That's a picture of her in the list
1:35:15
of the- She looks worried.
1:35:18
She's at Goldman Sachs, but this happened pre
1:35:21
-Goldman Sachs.
1:35:22
Peter Thiel, probably nothing there.
1:35:26
No.
1:35:26
I can't imagine what that could be.
1:35:28
He's gay.
1:35:29
So yeah, he doesn't need young girls.
1:35:32
Noam Chomsky.
1:35:34
That's funny.
1:35:35
Yeah, probably nothing.
1:35:37
But that was probably just a, you know,
1:35:38
he did this thing.
1:35:39
You have to remember Epstein did this thing
1:35:41
because different people got involved in it where
1:35:43
he would socialize with scientists so he could
1:35:46
find out things that he needed to know
1:35:48
for some leverage of some sort or other.
1:35:50
So he would probably hang out with Chomsky,
1:35:53
but I just cannot see that guy going
1:35:57
to the island or even taking, getting on
1:35:59
a plane.
1:36:00
Going to the island.
1:36:01
It's not gonna happen.
1:36:02
All right, let's continue with this riveting ABC
1:36:05
interview.
1:36:05
The president has gone after you in some
1:36:07
deeply personal ways.
1:36:09
I mean, attacking you over and over again,
1:36:13
even attacking you regarding your wedding, your recent
1:36:17
wedding, which by the way, congratulations.
1:36:19
What do you make of all that?
1:36:21
And he's obviously supporting your primary opponents.
1:36:24
I mean, what kind of retribution are you
1:36:27
facing?
1:36:29
You know, my wife told me, she said,
1:36:32
I told you so, we should have invited
1:36:33
Donald Trump.
1:36:34
He's mad that he didn't get an invitation.
1:36:37
So we're taking it with a grain of
1:36:39
salt.
1:36:40
He's being a bully or trying to be
1:36:41
a bully.
1:36:43
And they're trying to beat me here in
1:36:45
Kentucky.
1:36:45
But here's what's interesting.
1:36:47
The people financing this campaign consist completely of
1:36:50
three billionaires and they're all in the Epstein
1:36:52
class.
1:36:53
In fact, one of them is named in
1:36:55
Epstein's phone book, not the secret files that
1:36:58
the FBI is keeping, but in Epstein's phone
1:37:00
book.
1:37:00
So it's who?
1:37:02
Everybody's in Epstein's phone book.
1:37:04
I don't know who.
1:37:05
Yeah, that's true.
1:37:05
But who?
1:37:06
I don't know.
1:37:08
Does he tell us who it is?
1:37:08
No.
1:37:09
Why?
1:37:09
It's a small world.
1:37:11
Dogs don't bark at parked cars.
1:37:14
And we are winning.
1:37:15
I'm not tired of winning yet, but we
1:37:16
are winning.
1:37:17
And not only the speaker, but the attorney
1:37:21
general, the FBI director, and the president himself
1:37:25
and the vice president, they're taking a big
1:37:27
loss this week because after months of fighting,
1:37:29
I am winning this week with Ro Khanna.
1:37:32
We're forcing this vote and it's gonna happen.
1:37:34
I would remind my Republican colleagues who are
1:37:36
deciding how to vote, Donald Trump can protect
1:37:39
you in red districts right now by giving
1:37:41
you an endorsement, but in 2030, he's not
1:37:44
gonna be the president and you will have
1:37:46
voted to protect pedophiles if you don't vote
1:37:49
to release these files and the president can't
1:37:51
protect you then.
1:37:53
This vote, the record of this vote will
1:37:55
last longer than Donald Trump's presidency.
1:37:57
Yeah, there's something there.
1:37:59
That's a good threat.
1:38:00
I like that threat.
1:38:01
Yeah, it's a good threat.
1:38:02
Yeah, and that would kind of make it
1:38:06
sound as though he's in on it, but
1:38:08
I still can't, I just think he's just
1:38:10
a useful idiot.
1:38:11
Here's the last clip.
1:38:12
Now, I've talked to Senate leadership who'd tell
1:38:16
me that this is almost certainly not-
1:38:17
This is Jonathan Corral, it is the one
1:38:19
and only.
1:38:20
Evening gonna be brought up for a vote
1:38:21
in the Senate.
1:38:23
What's your sense on that?
1:38:24
I mean- Wait a minute, now what
1:38:25
vote in the Senate do we need all
1:38:27
of a sudden?
1:38:29
Why do, I thought this was a House
1:38:31
vote.
1:38:31
Do we need the Senate now too?
1:38:35
Not that I know of.
1:38:37
Let me listen, let me listen again.
1:38:39
Leadership who'd tell me that this is almost
1:38:42
certainly not even gonna be brought up for
1:38:44
a vote in the Senate.
1:38:46
What's your sense on that?
1:38:47
I mean, I guess if there's an overwhelming
1:38:49
vote of you, like you said, 100 Republicans
1:38:51
join all the Democrats, the pressure will be
1:38:54
immense, but do you have any sense the
1:38:55
Senate's even gonna vote on this?
1:38:57
Well, they don't have the procedural maneuver that
1:39:00
Ro Khanna and I used in the House.
1:39:02
They don't have that in the Senate.
1:39:03
It's called a discharge petition.
1:39:05
But the senators do have other ways to
1:39:07
force votes as amendments, for instance, on larger
1:39:10
bills in order to let bills move quicker
1:39:12
through the chamber.
1:39:14
So they could force the vote in spite
1:39:16
of the leadership's efforts.
1:39:18
I just hope John Thune will do the
1:39:19
right thing.
1:39:20
Look, our own speaker tried to push this
1:39:23
bill by unanimous consent last week within 15
1:39:26
minutes of me getting the 218th vote because
1:39:29
he was trying to save people from a
1:39:30
vote.
1:39:31
If he's ready to pass it by unanimous
1:39:33
consent, then the Senate leader should be as
1:39:36
well.
1:39:36
Just bring it up.
1:39:37
But the pressure's gonna be there if we
1:39:39
get a big vote in the House.
1:39:40
Oh, so it sounds like you do need
1:39:42
the Senate to vote on this.
1:39:44
That's what it sounds like.
1:39:45
But I like the trickery of Johnson to
1:39:48
do a non-vote, just pass it by
1:39:51
unanimous consent so nobody can have it marked
1:39:55
against them as only a pro-pedophile.
1:39:58
Let the Senate hang.
1:39:59
You let the senators go for it.
1:40:02
And then you have to do the same
1:40:03
thing because you can't be on the record
1:40:05
voting against this because it looks like you're
1:40:08
protecting pedophiles.
1:40:09
And so this is very tricky and it's
1:40:11
definitely gonna have to happen.
1:40:14
But if you're trying to keep it from
1:40:16
happening, by our thesis, if you're trying to
1:40:20
keep it from happening until the midterms, as
1:40:23
close to them as you can to submarine
1:40:26
the Democrats, it's gonna be rough.
1:40:29
Here's Senator Chris Murphy is brought into the
1:40:33
conversation by Jonathan Karl.
1:40:34
On Epstein, the president is now demanding or
1:40:38
has demanded that the attorney general, the Justice
1:40:42
Department, investigate his political opponents.
1:40:45
And Pam Bondi responded by basically saying yes,
1:40:49
sir, and moving in that direction.
1:40:51
What do you make of that?
1:40:54
Well, it's both heartbreaking and totally unsurprising.
1:40:58
The Department of Justice has just become a
1:41:00
protection racket for Donald Trump and a witch
1:41:03
hunt operation against his political opponents.
1:41:05
This is why our democracy- Which political
1:41:07
opponents?
1:41:08
Bill Clinton?
1:41:09
Is he a political opponent?
1:41:11
I have not heard a name who is
1:41:12
a political opponent.
1:41:14
Opponent of what?
1:41:16
The 2028 election?
1:41:18
This Murphy guy's the worst.
1:41:21
Is in such peril right now is that
1:41:23
for the first time in our history, the
1:41:25
Department of Justice operates in order to try
1:41:27
to punish and lock up anybody that criticizes
1:41:30
Donald Trump.
1:41:32
I'm really proud of the work that Representative
1:41:34
Massey has done in the House of Representatives
1:41:37
along with Ro Khanna.
1:41:38
And yes, John Thune should bring that vote
1:41:42
to the Senate floor as soon as it
1:41:43
passes the House of Representatives.
1:41:46
It's true that Donald Trump is trying to
1:41:48
cover up for I think a host of
1:41:50
really powerful and rich people, but he's frankly
1:41:53
not that selfless.
1:41:54
He wouldn't be going through all of this
1:41:56
effort to try to stop the release of
1:41:57
these files if he wasn't seriously implicated in
1:42:01
those files.
1:42:02
This is most likely the biggest corruption scandal
1:42:05
in the history of the country.
1:42:07
We know that because Donald Trump is going
1:42:09
to these extraordinary lengths to stop these files
1:42:12
from coming out.
1:42:13
The Senate should take this vote.
1:42:14
I think it'll be likely another big bipartisan
1:42:17
vote.
1:42:18
And I'm grateful to our House colleagues for
1:42:21
sending it our way.
1:42:22
I mean, what, the only thing that really
1:42:26
could...
1:42:27
Before you make that, I think this guy's
1:42:30
insincere.
1:42:31
He knows exactly what's going on.
1:42:33
The Democrats know that they're trying to push
1:42:35
this off to the primary, I keep saying
1:42:38
primary, but the midterms.
1:42:40
They keep trying to push off, and these
1:42:41
guys know that that's what they're trying to
1:42:43
do.
1:42:43
So they keep saying, it's Trump, it's Trump.
1:42:45
He's in there, he's in the thing.
1:42:47
We gotta get it out quick, because they
1:42:48
want it out quick.
1:42:49
But this is insincerity at the highest order
1:42:53
from this guy, Murphy.
1:42:55
This Murphy guy is a bad guy.
1:42:57
He's a bad dude.
1:42:59
He's a bad dude.
1:43:00
He is terrible, but he knows exactly what's
1:43:03
going on.
1:43:03
I'm not fooled by this nonsense.
1:43:06
He's up there with Corn Pop, another bad
1:43:08
dude.
1:43:09
How about this though?
1:43:10
How about, I mean, everyone's talking, pedophile, pedophile,
1:43:13
pedophile, meh.
1:43:15
I would be less surprised if what came
1:43:18
out is MI6, possibly Mossad, but I think
1:43:23
MI6 is more likely.
1:43:25
That's what Epstein was involved in.
1:43:27
That's what Maxwell was involved in.
1:43:29
That's what Maxwell's dead.
1:43:30
Yeah, blackmail operations.
1:43:31
Yeah, but from MI6, not from the Mossad.
1:43:35
Yeah, you know, yeah, maybe.
1:43:41
And I say, well, I mean, this is
1:43:42
our thinking right now.
1:43:43
We're kind of floating in that direction.
1:43:45
Yes.
1:43:46
With this anti-MI6, all of a sudden,
1:43:49
we've established that.
1:43:50
I may have been hypnotized in my hour
1:43:54
and been pre-programmed to blame the MI6
1:43:58
for something that Mossad's doing because the Jews,
1:44:02
the Mossads actually run the BBC.
1:44:06
And that's what we don't understand because we
1:44:09
know that the Jews run the media, so
1:44:10
why don't they run the BBC?
1:44:12
And the whole thing is a misdirection and
1:44:14
we've been duped, both of us.
1:44:16
Possibly.
1:44:17
Here's the president.
1:44:18
I know nothing.
1:44:19
This, by the way, is sweetened by News
1:44:24
Nation.
1:44:25
This is run through Adobe.
1:44:27
This is the president on the plane and
1:44:29
this is what it sounds like when you
1:44:30
run it through Adobe, which is well done.
1:44:32
I mean, it gets choppy here and there.
1:44:36
I know nothing about that.
1:44:37
They would have announced that a long time
1:44:38
ago.
1:44:39
It's really, what did he mean when he
1:44:41
spent all the time with Bill Clint?
1:44:42
Clint?
1:44:43
With the president of Harvard, who you know,
1:44:45
who that is, Summers?
1:44:47
Oh, Larry Summers, the president of Harvard.
1:44:49
Oh.
1:44:50
No, he was with the Treasury Department when
1:44:51
he became the president of Harvard.
1:44:53
Later, yes, later.
1:44:54
Before or later.
1:44:55
I can't remember.
1:44:56
I'm gonna have to look it up.
1:44:57
He was either before or later.
1:44:58
Now, if you want an MI6 connection, Larry
1:45:02
Summers, when he was at Treasury Department?
1:45:07
Banking, City of London, I don't know.
1:45:10
Larry Summers, whatever his name is, and all
1:45:13
of the other people that he spent time
1:45:14
with.
1:45:15
Jeffrey Epstein and I had a very bad
1:45:17
relationship for many years, but he also saw
1:45:20
strength because I was president.
1:45:22
So he dictated a couple of memos to
1:45:24
himself.
1:45:25
Give me a break.
1:45:26
You're gonna find out what did he know
1:45:28
with respect to Bill Clint, with respect to
1:45:31
the head of Harvard, with respect to all
1:45:33
of those people that he knew, including JPMorgan
1:45:36
Chase.
1:45:36
Now, the JPMorgan Chase thing is very interesting
1:45:40
because all those documents, no one's talking about
1:45:42
it, but all of the documents came out,
1:45:45
I think a week or two ago, and
1:45:48
JPMorgan Chase, he was like, yeah, I need
1:45:51
$800,000.
1:45:52
Okay, here it is, cash.
1:45:53
I need $50,000, give it to that
1:45:55
person.
1:45:56
There was all kinds of suspicious transaction reports
1:45:59
being filed.
1:46:00
Anybody would have been kicked out of the
1:46:02
bank except for Epstein.
1:46:06
And so if you listen very carefully to
1:46:08
what the president says here, he tells us
1:46:10
what we're gonna see.
1:46:11
But he also saw strength because I was
1:46:14
president.
1:46:14
So he dictated a couple of memos to
1:46:16
himself.
1:46:17
Give me a break.
1:46:18
You're gonna find out what did he know
1:46:20
with respect to Bill Clint, with respect to
1:46:23
the head of Harvard, with respect to all
1:46:26
of those people that he knew, including JPMorgan
1:46:28
Chase.
1:46:28
What did he know?
1:46:30
What did he know?
1:46:32
Yeah, maybe.
1:46:35
Trump does this.
1:46:36
It's possible.
1:46:37
I'm gonna read you Larry Summers' little bio
1:46:39
here, or the chronology.
1:46:41
He was a Harvard president from 2001 to
1:46:45
2006.
1:46:46
Then he became the United States Secretary of
1:46:48
the Treasury under Clinton in 99.
1:46:52
Well, he was there from 99 to 2001.
1:46:53
Then he became Harvard.
1:46:55
Clinton Rhodes Scholar.
1:46:57
Yeah, and he's a Democrat.
1:46:58
Yeah, Rhodes Scholar.
1:47:00
Yeah, then he became the Undersecretary 95, 95.
1:47:06
Okay, so he went from the Treasury to
1:47:09
Harvard, and then he became the Director of
1:47:11
the National Economics Council in 2009, after he
1:47:15
left Harvard.
1:47:16
He was there from 2001 to 2006.
1:47:18
So he's a Clintonista, and he, right, yeah.
1:47:22
Which brings us back, this makes it more
1:47:24
English.
1:47:25
Maybe it's much less about sex stuff and
1:47:28
a lot more about espionage, control, finance, finance.
1:47:38
Yeah, well, hopefully we'll know.
1:47:41
Four more years.
1:47:42
The one thing that I did learn, and
1:47:45
this is possibly the reason why Bannon was
1:47:48
kind of kicked out of Trump's circle.
1:47:53
And Bannon, by the way, is listed on
1:47:54
the group that Massey was talking about, the
1:47:59
10 people.
1:48:00
Bannon was one of them.
1:48:01
So on the value payments, I'm big on,
1:48:05
by the way, I've been talking to Justin
1:48:07
from the Boots and the Sneakers, No Agenda
1:48:09
Boots, No Agenda Sneakers.
1:48:11
Yeah.
1:48:12
He's all in.
1:48:13
He says, you're going to have cool stitching
1:48:14
on the sneakers with no agenda on it.
1:48:18
We'll do something cool on the boots.
1:48:20
Yeah, we're going to rival the value attainment
1:48:23
boys with our stuff.
1:48:25
We'll probably beat them.
1:48:26
Oh, easily.
1:48:26
We're going to be cheaper for starters, like
1:48:30
599 bucks for shoes.
1:48:32
We have to consider the cost of these
1:48:34
things.
1:48:34
I mean, you can't be.
1:48:35
Well, and these are made in America, not
1:48:37
made in Europe.
1:48:39
Italy.
1:48:40
No, they're made in America, baby, by Merkins.
1:48:44
Anyway.
1:48:45
Yeah, we know how to make shoes.
1:48:47
Sneakers, we invented the sneaker.
1:48:49
We invented the sneaker.
1:48:52
Because the PDB is, the value attainment are
1:48:54
sneakers, just with leather looking tops.
1:48:58
Anyway, onward, we'll get to that when we
1:49:00
get to it.
1:49:01
Yeah, you were making a point before you
1:49:03
got distracted.
1:49:03
About the value attainment guy.
1:49:05
And I have to say, I love the
1:49:07
PDB value attainment guy because he has Michael
1:49:10
Wolff on.
1:49:12
And he's like.
1:49:12
You're talking about PBD himself.
1:49:13
Yeah, PBD himself is talking to Michael Wolff.
1:49:16
And PBD is like, he's basically, I mean,
1:49:18
if you listen to the whole interview, he
1:49:20
really wanted to buy the tapes.
1:49:22
He wants to buy the tapes, the 100
1:49:25
hours or whatever, that Michael Wolff has.
1:49:28
And Michael Wolff is not selling.
1:49:30
But he keeps, until he finally, he actually
1:49:33
at the end, he says, oh, I thought
1:49:34
you wanted to sell the tape.
1:49:35
No, no, I'm never going to sell the
1:49:36
tapes because I'm sure he's being optioned.
1:49:39
Hey, Brunetti, Brunetti, this is, you got to
1:49:42
option this guy.
1:49:44
Think about that.
1:49:47
House of Epstein, just a thought.
1:49:50
House of Epstein.
1:49:50
Oh yeah, that's a winner.
1:49:52
Yeah, I mean, 50 Shades of Epstein.
1:49:54
Come on, man, keep the franchise going.
1:50:00
So in this conversation, it comes up and
1:50:04
PBD thinks that Bannon has tapes too.
1:50:09
And Michael Wolff sets him straight on this.
1:50:12
And I think this is probably the reason
1:50:14
why Bannon was kicked out.
1:50:17
With the 100 hours that you have, are
1:50:19
there, is there anything in there?
1:50:22
Like, let's just say I'm an interested buyer.
1:50:24
I would be interested in buying the 100
1:50:26
hours that you have.
1:50:27
I would- PBD is a businessman.
1:50:28
I want to buy that, man.
1:50:30
I don't need Brunetti, I can produce it
1:50:33
myself in Italy.
1:50:34
Be interested in buying Bannon's 15, 16 hours
1:50:37
that he has, right?
1:50:38
I would be interested in both of them.
1:50:40
How- Let me just add about Bannon's,
1:50:42
I wouldn't buy them from Bannon if I
1:50:44
were you because Bannon does not own them.
1:50:47
Oh, who owns them?
1:50:48
I didn't know that.
1:50:50
Yeah, Jeffrey Epstein paid for those.
1:50:52
The estate owns it.
1:50:53
The estate owns it, so wow, okay.
1:50:55
So that's a new fact.
1:50:56
He would never be able to use those
1:50:57
hours in a documentary.
1:50:58
Yes, and again, let me stress that although
1:51:02
Steve, who I am personally fond of-
1:51:05
Yeah, when someone says that, I'm personally fond
1:51:08
of you, that means I hate you.
1:51:11
Although Steve, who I am personally fond of,
1:51:15
but Steve's cover here that he was making
1:51:19
a documentary about Epstein is 100% not
1:51:23
true.
1:51:23
I know this because I was there and
1:51:26
I'm fully aware and actually have it on
1:51:31
tape of what transpired here, and that was
1:51:34
Bannon's effort to help Epstein with his legal
1:51:39
problems, and this would be in 2019 when
1:51:45
the law was closing in on Epstein and
1:51:48
Bannon's suggestion was that Epstein go on national
1:51:53
TV to try to perform a mea culpa
1:51:56
or explain or humanize himself in some way,
1:52:01
and then Bannon offered to help prepare him.
1:52:04
So essentially what Bannon was doing was media
1:52:07
training.
1:52:09
He was tutoring Epstein in how to face
1:52:13
a hostile interview on a hypothetical 60 minutes.
1:52:19
Huh, so Bannon was- Oh, geez, thank
1:52:26
you very much.
1:52:27
Highly unexpected.
1:52:28
♪ Clip of the day ♪ Yes, indeed.
1:52:33
So what would a former naval intelligence guy
1:52:35
want to do to be helping Epstein with
1:52:39
his image in a hypothetical 60 minutes interview?
1:52:43
This reeks of intelligence issues.
1:52:46
It reeks of something.
1:52:48
For one thing, Bannon as a image consultant,
1:52:52
media advisor- Look at his own, look
1:52:55
at his hair.
1:52:55
No, that's not the guy.
1:52:57
Hey, Bannon, shave.
1:52:59
That's not the guy.
1:53:00
That's not the guy you want for that.
1:53:03
So, you know, and perhaps that is the
1:53:07
biggest problem is that because we know that
1:53:10
Epstein, you know, oh, he's intelligence.
1:53:13
You know, that's what was said during his
1:53:17
early prosecution.
1:53:18
Oh, he's intelligence.
1:53:19
He belongs to intelligence.
1:53:21
Everyone thinks CIA.
1:53:23
No, I think British intelligence.
1:53:26
Then how close is British intelligence to naval
1:53:28
intelligence?
1:53:29
I don't know.
1:53:29
This just smells of something different.
1:53:32
Sources and methods.
1:53:33
I don't know.
1:53:34
But I think the whole smokescreen- I
1:53:37
would- Yeah?
1:53:38
I'm just thinking offhand that Bannon meeting up
1:53:41
with Epstein supposedly as a media consultant is
1:53:44
really a debriefing.
1:53:46
Ooh.
1:53:47
Yeah, there you go.
1:53:48
Debriefing, yes.
1:53:50
Yeah.
1:53:53
Wow.
1:53:54
I don't know.
1:53:55
You know, it makes things exciting, though.
1:53:57
That's for sure.
1:53:58
We're the only ones doing this.
1:54:01
Everyone else is mad, just mad.
1:54:04
He's protecting pedophiles!
1:54:05
You know, I'm stunned that we don't have
1:54:06
better support.
1:54:09
Well, no, this is- We had a
1:54:12
- This is a plate.
1:54:14
As we get into it, I do have
1:54:16
a report about the Albany meetup.
1:54:19
Why don't we do that now, man?
1:54:21
I mean, it's a good time for it.
1:54:23
But yes, when it comes to support, I
1:54:25
mean, not just financially, but just philosophically, people
1:54:30
are just- There are people who just
1:54:32
hate us.
1:54:34
Hate us for not being on the same
1:54:37
firing line as the other podcasts.
1:54:39
You know, how could- We have always
1:54:42
just spoken our own mind, and people can't
1:54:45
believe it when they disagree with us or
1:54:48
our opinion, and then, you know, we're captured,
1:54:51
we're on the take, we're Asians.
1:54:53
But nobody can identify who captured us.
1:54:56
Well, the Jews.
1:54:57
Hello?
1:54:57
That's obvious.
1:55:00
Hey, with that, I want to thank you
1:55:01
for your courage to say good morning to
1:55:02
you, the man who put the C in
1:55:03
Chomsky on an airplane.
1:55:05
Say hello to my friend on the other
1:55:06
end, the one, the only, Mr. John C.
1:55:09
DeMora!
1:55:12
Yeah, good morning, you guys.
1:55:13
My name's John C.
1:55:13
DeMora.
1:55:14
I ship a Seagulls to the ref in
1:55:15
the air.
1:55:16
Subs in the water and the dames and
1:55:17
knights out there.
1:55:18
In the morning to the trolls in the
1:55:20
troll room, we'll see you in the morning.
1:55:24
We have zero, zero listeners.
1:55:29
Zero.
1:55:29
It seems unlikely since they've been cuing you
1:55:31
more than once today.
1:55:33
No, no one has cued me at all
1:55:34
today.
1:55:35
No, everything is, I'm honest about that.
1:55:39
No, there's exactly zero.
1:55:41
It literally said, troll count zero.
1:55:44
Listener count zero.
1:55:46
It could be.
1:55:47
Oh wait, Darren O has 18, thank you,
1:55:50
Darren.
1:55:50
Okay, Darren somehow got the numbers.
1:55:52
I trust Darren.
1:55:55
1889, okay.
1:55:57
Yeah, it's too low.
1:55:57
Well, it is what it is.
1:55:59
There was, again, there's been some problems with
1:56:02
the troll room.
1:56:04
Let me see, Void Zero sent me some
1:56:06
message during the show that something broke.
1:56:11
I don't know.
1:56:12
It's what it is.
1:56:13
It's amazing any of this stuff works at
1:56:15
all.
1:56:16
Yeah, I have to agree to be honest.
1:56:18
Anyway, those trolls are listening live.
1:56:20
They're listening to us through noagendastream.com and
1:56:25
they may even be, if they're smart, they
1:56:27
may be listening on one of those modern
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podcast apps, podcastapps.com, where you get alerted
1:56:32
when we go live or any of the
1:56:33
No Agenda streams.
1:56:34
And in fact, any podcast can do this.
1:56:37
Any podcast can go live.
1:56:39
And these modern podcast apps, if you're listening
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right now, in a Podverse or Fountain or
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Podcast Guru or TrueFans, you'll see a little
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donate button.
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So you can literally, while you're listening, hit
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that button and it'll go straight to our
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donation page, Bob's Your Uncle.
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Boom, done.
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You can even boost us if you have
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enough sats in your wallet and it shows
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up in our Strike account.
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So we're a very modern show here.
1:57:04
We're really doing some cool things.
1:57:07
Value for value.
1:57:09
It's kept us straight and honest and on
1:57:12
the right path for 18 years.
1:57:14
It's always a rollercoaster, particularly when big issues
1:57:17
come around.
1:57:18
I don't think I've ever quite seen it
1:57:19
like this though, where there's just so much
1:57:23
vitriol out.
1:57:24
There's a lot more podcasts, you know, and
1:57:27
we don't go on enough other podcasts.
1:57:30
We need to go on everyone else's podcast.
1:57:32
Well, I find that disgusting.
1:57:36
What do you find disgusting?
1:57:38
I mean, I'll do it, but I don't,
1:57:41
because I see these podcasters and they're, Tucker's
1:57:44
on this guy's podcast and he's on Tucker's
1:57:46
podcast.
1:57:47
This is the log rolling kind of thing.
1:57:49
And they're all of the same, the America
1:57:51
First people are the worst.
1:57:54
And by the way, Fuentes has, you know,
1:57:56
he has this, they even have a hat.
1:57:59
Oh, he has America First hat?
1:58:01
Yeah, and they're blue.
1:58:02
Merch, merch.
1:58:04
The merch.
1:58:04
It's a blue hat instead of red and
1:58:07
it says America First.
1:58:08
It's to counter the MAGA hat.
1:58:11
So this phony baloney schism, which by the
1:58:14
way was mentioned in those BBC reports we
1:58:16
played, the schism between America First and MAGA
1:58:20
is bogus.
1:58:22
It's only on podcasts.
1:58:23
It's probably- It's on podcasts, yeah.
1:58:26
It's probably about- Well, the BBC brought
1:58:27
it up.
1:58:28
I'd say it's about a million people who
1:58:30
are aware of it and probably 300,000
1:58:33
who really care.
1:58:35
That's what I'm thinking.
1:58:36
That's pretty generous.
1:58:38
Maybe.
1:58:39
But you know, Megyn Kelly's doing her, we
1:58:42
need to do an arena tour.
1:58:44
Megyn Kelly, Candice, Tucker, Fuentes, and maybe two
1:58:49
or three others, Dave Smith perhaps and a
1:58:51
couple others are all on this America First
1:58:54
bandwagon.
1:58:55
Yeah.
1:58:56
And they're all blowing each other.
1:58:59
Yeah.
1:59:01
We need to get in on that game.
1:59:03
And so they're going from, they're podcasting this
1:59:06
podcast and then they're talking about it.
1:59:07
They're not only doing that, they're talking about
1:59:10
each other.
1:59:11
Yeah, I know, I know.
1:59:12
On one side of the fence and then
1:59:13
they're talking about the other side of the
1:59:15
fence which has got Trump.
1:59:17
But see, this is what happens is that's
1:59:19
why, and I think that's part of what
1:59:21
we're seeing before unfolding before us is they
1:59:24
have to keep moving to new topics because
1:59:27
at a certain point people burn out on
1:59:30
the Israel thing.
1:59:31
And it has moved.
1:59:32
It's moved from the Israel thing back to
1:59:34
the Epstein thing and then it'll move to
1:59:38
foreign wars.
1:59:39
And it's kind of a, it's a circular
1:59:41
thing.
1:59:41
It goes around and around and around and
1:59:43
around.
1:59:43
And it is one of the oldest tricks
1:59:47
in the British playbook is divide and conquer.
1:59:50
It kind of happened to the Tea Party.
1:59:53
You remember the Tea Party, Ron Paul?
1:59:54
Oh yeah, they got co-opted by a
1:59:56
bunch of Republican old hacks.
1:59:58
Yeah, and then Ron Paul was out.
2:00:00
They kicked him out.
2:00:00
Yeah, Ron Paul is the first, he was
2:00:02
the first thing, he kicked to the curb
2:00:04
immediately.
2:00:06
And I loved Ron Paul.
2:00:07
Do you remember, this is during the era
2:00:10
of the show.
2:00:10
Do you remember when they had one of
2:00:12
the first CPAC meetings and that's when the
2:00:14
Tea Party was getting very prominent before they
2:00:16
kicked Ron Paul out and they did a
2:00:17
straw poll on who should be president and
2:00:20
Ron Paul beat them all by a large
2:00:22
margin?
2:00:23
Yeah, and all of a sudden Tea Party
2:00:24
was taken over by somebody else.
2:00:27
Who took over the Tea Party?
2:00:28
It was one of these Texas congressmen and
2:00:31
Texas is loaded with these two-faced Republicans
2:00:37
who seem like the- No kidding.
2:00:40
Yeah, you're there.
2:00:41
You can see more of them than I
2:00:43
know of.
2:00:45
Let me see, who took over?
2:00:47
I can't remember that one guy's name.
2:00:49
And then some people from the Northeast also
2:00:52
grabbed part of it and the whole thing
2:00:53
was destroyed from the inside out from co
2:00:57
-option.
2:00:58
Very standard way of doing it.
2:01:00
Ron Paul pretty much says the Republican Party
2:01:02
took over, but it was certain people.
2:01:07
It was just a group, the old line,
2:01:09
the RINOs, I wouldn't call it.
2:01:10
They're not really RINOs.
2:01:12
Wait, wait, wait, didn't they get taken over
2:01:13
by Sarah Palin and Michelle Bachman and people
2:01:16
like that?
2:01:16
No, no, they came later.
2:01:18
There was a male in particular who started
2:01:21
to dominate the Tea Party thing.
2:01:23
We can argue, we'll look into it later.
2:01:25
It's kind of boring.
2:01:27
But the fact is is that this sort
2:01:28
of thing is what this divide and conquer
2:01:30
and this America first thing is part of
2:01:32
that.
2:01:34
It's part of that same system.
2:01:37
And that's why half these guys, they're all
2:01:39
bitching about, I mean, they were all, they're
2:01:42
all in line with complaining about Israel and
2:01:44
they're all in line about now complaining about
2:01:46
Trump.
2:01:47
They all have issues because Trump promised this,
2:01:50
he promised that.
2:01:51
The guy's been in office for less than
2:01:52
a year and he's supposed to have done
2:01:55
this and that Fuentes hates him.
2:01:57
Right, but this is all about the midterms.
2:02:00
It's all about the true control, which will
2:02:03
be the House and the Senate.
2:02:08
My prediction is that the Democrats will flip
2:02:14
the House, they'll get the House, impeach Trump
2:02:17
immediately.
2:02:19
And what are they gonna impeach him on?
2:02:22
The Venezuelan boats.
2:02:24
That's what pops up as a legal thing.
2:02:26
Interesting.
2:02:29
Well, that would suck.
2:02:33
Yeah, because they're just screw everything up and
2:02:35
you're gonna be back on track to nothing,
2:02:37
nothing.
2:02:37
We just play those clips from the previous
2:02:41
two impeachments, same stuff.
2:02:43
Yeah, just a waste of time.
2:02:46
So I'm asking the AIs and it does
2:02:50
see, Sarah Palin is mentioned continuously as-
2:02:53
No, she got involved.
2:02:54
She was no doubt about that.
2:02:56
All of a sudden she's a Tea Party
2:02:57
person.
2:02:58
Yes, that was the 2010 National Tea Party
2:03:01
Convention in Nashville.
2:03:03
And that's when it all fell apart for
2:03:05
Ron Paul.
2:03:07
Ted Cruz, Michelle Bachmann.
2:03:15
Yeah, there's one guy whose name's mentioned, I
2:03:17
can jump up and down, but.
2:03:21
Anyway, hey, time, talent and treasure is how
2:03:24
value for value works.
2:03:26
And the only way that we've continued on
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this merry journey for you podcast enthusiasts out
2:03:31
there is by your support.
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And Darren O'Neill did the artwork for
2:03:47
us, which was all AI, of course.
2:03:49
Darren knows what he's doing.
2:03:51
This was the octagon.
2:03:54
I don't know if this was, I mean,
2:03:55
you don't have to use AI for this
2:03:56
simple joke.
2:03:58
No, he used AI.
2:03:59
Well, actually, you know.
2:04:00
And by the way, as a mea culpa.
2:04:02
Yes.
2:04:03
The stop sign is not six-sided.
2:04:05
It's eight-sided.
2:04:06
We kept saying six-sided.
2:04:07
Well, that's because the producer said six sides.
2:04:09
Yeah, and then we fell in line.
2:04:11
Yes.
2:04:12
I also got another mea culpa for us
2:04:15
from the Archduke of Central Florida.
2:04:18
He says, a comment for you on show
2:04:20
1860.
2:04:20
And after the first break, you were talking
2:04:22
about the 50-year mortgage during that discussion,
2:04:24
you talked about deductibility of interest for income
2:04:26
tax purposes.
2:04:28
You suggested there was a limitation on the
2:04:29
amount of interest that could be deducted.
2:04:32
In 2017, the 2017 tax bill limited the
2:04:35
SALT, state and local income taxes, deduction to
2:04:39
10,000, raised it to 40,000, the
2:04:41
big, beautiful bill.
2:04:43
This limitation only relates to state and local
2:04:45
taxes.
2:04:46
Income and sales property, and sales tax property
2:04:49
has nothing to do with interest.
2:04:50
The only limitation on interest deductibility relates to
2:04:54
interest on mortgages that are more than $1
2:04:56
million.
2:04:59
I looked this up and I would recommend
2:05:02
people go to publication 936.
2:05:05
Oh, 936, everybody.
2:05:07
And it discusses, and the number they have
2:05:09
there is not 1 million, but 750,000.
2:05:13
So I don't know, but publication 936 of
2:05:18
2024, a home mortgage and interest deduction explains
2:05:21
this, and yes, we're probably wrong.
2:05:25
And we do not give tax advice on
2:05:27
this show.
2:05:28
It's all just, we just talk.
2:05:29
He also said, not trying to be critical.
2:05:32
No, we can tell the difference.
2:05:35
These corrections are noted and researched.
2:05:38
Yes.
2:05:39
So he has to explain publication 936 to
2:05:41
me.
2:05:42
The things that get my goat is when
2:05:43
they say, as a Christian, I don't feel
2:05:45
you were really contributing to the kingdom with
2:05:47
that conversation.
2:05:48
Oh, yeah.
2:05:48
Yeah, well, that would be you mostly.
2:05:52
That gets my goat.
2:05:54
Yes, it should.
2:05:54
Okay, everybody out there, you have your marching
2:05:57
orders, you know what gets his goat.
2:06:00
Thanks.
2:06:02
There it is, John being mean to me.
2:06:05
Mean.
2:06:06
So Darren did the no agenda stop sign,
2:06:10
which should immediately remind you to donate.
2:06:14
Oh, I got another note from about the
2:06:16
stop sign.
2:06:17
One of our producers went on and on
2:06:19
with a long exposition, which is so good,
2:06:21
I'm gonna probably put it in a newsletter
2:06:23
or I may put it online somehow.
2:06:25
Yeah.
2:06:26
If I get permission.
2:06:27
Can you summarize?
2:06:28
Yes, the original stop signs were yellow.
2:06:31
Oh.
2:06:33
And there's a number of, in fact, most
2:06:35
of the stop signs were yellow until like,
2:06:38
you know, at some point they started, in
2:06:39
fact, he's got, there's some town in Indiana
2:06:42
that had yellow ones until like the 80s.
2:06:45
And then he pointed this out to the
2:06:47
history of the stop sign was not always
2:06:48
what it was.
2:06:49
And he says stop in a German stop
2:06:52
sign too, instead of halt.
2:06:53
He pointed that, he thought that was weird.
2:06:56
And there's also a blue stop sign that
2:06:59
came and went that was used in some
2:07:01
sort of railroad crossings or something is different.
2:07:05
But so it's a very interesting lecture.
2:07:07
It was a long two page lecture about
2:07:10
stop signs.
2:07:11
I recommend that this guy write a book,
2:07:14
the history of the stop sign.
2:07:16
And we will, in fact, give you the
2:07:18
little blurbs for your book.
2:07:21
Yeah.
2:07:22
Couldn't do the show without this book.
2:07:26
Other artwork that was, now I liked the
2:07:28
sumo wrestler.
2:07:29
You didn't like the sumo wrestler.
2:07:31
I don't know why you have something about
2:07:32
fat guys, which is also a Darren O
2:07:36
'Neill.
2:07:37
The other one we talked about, we thought
2:07:39
Jeffrey Rios, poor African kids with no agenda
2:07:43
t-shirts was funny, but even we didn't
2:07:45
feel that was appropriate.
2:07:47
Yes, we thought it was in bad taste.
2:07:50
Very bad taste.
2:07:52
There were lots of drone stuff, the lesbian
2:07:55
report.
2:07:55
I personally like Nessworks as I'm a podcast
2:07:58
enthusiast, but like, yeah, the stop sign was
2:08:01
just better.
2:08:03
And people are trying to do little cartoons.
2:08:06
You're over complicating it.
2:08:08
The art just has to be simple.
2:08:11
You know, you've got Trump, the Trump show,
2:08:14
hitting a red button, you're fired, Kimmel, then
2:08:16
a guy gets shot out of a cannon,
2:08:18
doesn't even look like Kimmel, looks like Colbert.
2:08:21
You're making it too complicated.
2:08:24
Just try to be simple.
2:08:26
Right?
2:08:28
It does look like Colbert.
2:08:30
Yeah, it doesn't look like Kimmel at all.
2:08:32
And they got the Trump show and then
2:08:33
Dvorak and Curry down at the bottom.
2:08:35
Yeah, it's simple.
2:08:37
Think simple.
2:08:39
And Jeffrey Ria is thinking too simple.
2:08:41
He's found the new model to use, new
2:08:43
LLM, new generative AI.
2:08:45
And it's got this very distinctive look, kind
2:08:48
of blockish.
2:08:50
What do you call that?
2:08:51
You're the art major here.
2:08:54
What do you call that?
2:08:56
Blockish look?
2:08:57
Yeah, like the two spooks, the Intel sharing.
2:09:00
He's got a couple of these.
2:09:01
I had to find one of these pieces
2:09:03
you're talking about.
2:09:04
Yeah, if you roll down, no agenda, it's
2:09:09
Intel sharing.
2:09:10
They got two spooks handing each other classified
2:09:12
document.
2:09:13
He has a couple, he's done a couple
2:09:14
of these.
2:09:16
It's a style, it's a style.
2:09:20
It's a school of art.
2:09:23
Anyway, a lot of slop, tons of slop,
2:09:27
which of course is good because that'll help
2:09:30
the model collapse even quicker.
2:09:32
That'll do good.
2:09:33
Hey, actually the Intel sharing thing is a
2:09:35
kind of a variation of spy versus spy.
2:09:38
Yeah, but what's that art style?
2:09:40
Yeah, that art style.
2:09:42
There's a couple of different things going on
2:09:44
here.
2:09:45
There is a, it's like a combination of
2:09:47
cubism for the background and the front is
2:09:51
something else.
2:09:53
There's a Nabaist or something.
2:09:56
There's some other screwy thing going on here.
2:09:58
But it's obviously in the LLM, whatever it
2:10:01
is.
2:10:01
And why is the guy's arm going through
2:10:04
the table?
2:10:05
It's like his arm is like in through
2:10:08
the table, the hard table that's there.
2:10:11
It's called bad.
2:10:12
It's just bad.
2:10:13
Yeah, it's just bad.
2:10:14
It's just bad, it's not good.
2:10:16
By the way, Rob, the constitutional lawyer says,
2:10:19
sorry, nope, US law is hard enough.
2:10:22
So we can't count him in from international
2:10:24
law advice.
2:10:25
We will thank our executive and associate executive
2:10:27
producers.
2:10:28
Many of them showed up at the Albany
2:10:30
meetup.
2:10:31
So John will be giving his little report.
2:10:34
And of course- Including a note someone
2:10:36
sent in complaining about me.
2:10:39
Which will be lovely to listen to.
2:10:41
I'm excited.
2:10:43
We thank all of our financial supporters, $50
2:10:46
and above.
2:10:47
We'll give their name or whatever you put
2:10:49
on your payment details and your location.
2:10:51
And of course, we always like to thank
2:10:53
people who are able to give us $200
2:10:55
or more.
2:10:56
We, in fact, will read any note you
2:10:57
send in within reason and we will give
2:11:00
you the title of associate executive producer, which
2:11:02
is an official Hollywood credit.
2:11:04
You can use that anywhere Hollywood credits are
2:11:06
recognized, including imdb.com, $300 or more.
2:11:09
And we will give you an executive producer
2:11:12
title and the same applies.
2:11:14
We'll read your note.
2:11:15
And as always, the people who send in
2:11:17
300 or more have very short notes.
2:11:19
Commodore G comes in from Cincinnati, Ohio.
2:11:22
He is a Commodore after all, $343 and
2:11:26
75 cents.
2:11:27
I'm thinking that's 333.33 with some fees
2:11:30
added.
2:11:31
He says, thank you for your courage and
2:11:33
diligent work, peace and long life.
2:11:36
Commodore G.
2:11:37
Thank you, Commodore G.
2:11:40
Okay, let's start with the meetup money, including
2:11:44
starting with Sir Lawrence of Dystopia.
2:11:46
He's in Oakland.
2:11:47
He actually didn't write a short note.
2:11:50
I will try to distill it.
2:11:52
It looks like it was typed and it
2:11:55
looks like the ribbon is going.
2:11:57
So that's just an advance warning.
2:12:00
This is from Sir Lawrence of Dystopia, baronet
2:12:03
of Maxwell Park.
2:12:04
He becomes a baron today, by the way.
2:12:06
Kilo, Osco, six, Echo, Juliet, Echo.
2:12:10
73s.
2:12:10
So he's a little ham.
2:12:12
I hope this finds you well.
2:12:15
I want to convey how much I love
2:12:17
the tip of the day, the grandma's secret
2:12:20
spot remover and the Wego lever nuts come
2:12:24
to mind.
2:12:25
I use the Wego lever nuts on my
2:12:28
elevators.
2:12:30
It makes, I don't know what he's referring
2:12:32
to, but he's using them.
2:12:33
It makes a huge difference when a previous
2:12:36
mechanic has shoved a bunch of wires into
2:12:40
a terminal and it's barely holding together.
2:12:43
Yes, we all have done that.
2:12:45
With the Wego lever nuts, I can put
2:12:48
however many wires into one Wego, the proper
2:12:52
circuit goes on.
2:12:54
Lastly, after becoming a baronet after John's birthday
2:12:56
extravaganza, I realize I am now a baron,
2:13:00
accounting below, and I should like to be
2:13:02
Sir Lawrence of Dystopia, baron of Maxwell Park.
2:13:06
Thank you for your attention to this important
2:13:08
matter.
2:13:09
Nice.
2:13:10
Adios, mofos, he finishes.
2:13:14
The next two are notes that you have,
2:13:17
so you might as well read those too.
2:13:18
Dame Audra.
2:13:20
These are from the meetup again.
2:13:23
These are all the ones, it's the reason
2:13:25
we have a slew of them in shape
2:13:28
of altogether.
2:13:29
Dame Audra and I, this is from Dame
2:13:32
Audra of Legoland and Dr. Don, and this
2:13:35
is $333.33. And this is a nice
2:13:39
short note.
2:13:40
Dame Audra and I love giving and receiving.
2:13:43
Dramatic pause.
2:13:45
Value for value.
2:13:47
Oh, I was fooled for a moment.
2:13:50
Kindest regards.
2:13:52
Thank you.
2:13:53
Onward with the Ross Johnson and Eugene Berrigan.
2:13:56
Wait now, how about Sir Chris and Dame
2:13:58
Kristen?
2:13:58
I'm sorry, Sir Chris and Dame Kristen.
2:14:00
Yes.
2:14:01
$333.33. This is on a card.
2:14:05
You can tell by the noise.
2:14:07
In the morning, thanks for all the great
2:14:09
media deconstruction twice a week.
2:14:11
We never miss a show.
2:14:12
This was our first meetup.
2:14:14
Oh, nice.
2:14:14
But hopefully not our last.
2:14:16
All the best to you and only the,
2:14:20
and the entire No Agenda back office.
2:14:24
Cheers, Sir Chris and Dame Kristen Carmel.
2:14:29
I'll pick up with Ross Johnson from Eugene,
2:14:33
Oregon.
2:14:33
$333.33. I really appreciate a criticism with
2:14:39
a donation.
2:14:41
So I thank you because this is very
2:14:43
critical of me.
2:14:45
Adam is editorializing America away from home.
2:14:50
I'm not quite sure what that means.
2:14:53
You're in Texas.
2:14:54
His newfound Catholicism sucks.
2:14:58
Wow.
2:14:59
Here we have the Gellerm, whatever that thing's
2:15:01
called.
2:15:02
Gell-man amnesia.
2:15:03
Gell-man, yeah.
2:15:05
I am not a Catholic.
2:15:07
Not at all.
2:15:08
Believe me.
2:15:09
His newfound Catholicism sucks because we never talk
2:15:12
about home truths anymore.
2:15:15
I understand handpicking sides is impossible for Adam.
2:15:19
Why don't we get U.S. media deconstruction
2:15:22
anymore?
2:15:23
I'm a knight.
2:15:24
I'm a little baffled by this.
2:15:28
I'm not quite sure.
2:15:30
I have no idea.
2:15:31
Is that because I play clips from abroad?
2:15:34
Is that the reason why?
2:15:35
Well, I do too.
2:15:36
Yeah, but we also play U.S. clips
2:15:39
and we deconstruct.
2:15:40
Well, he makes it sound as though you're
2:15:42
in England or Holland.
2:15:44
As a Catholic.
2:15:45
Maybe he's only listened to one show and
2:15:46
you're a Catholic.
2:15:47
You're like a Catholic from France and you're
2:15:50
bitching about the Americas.
2:15:52
Those Americans!
2:15:54
That's what it sounds like.
2:15:55
Yeah, in a bit, yeah.
2:15:57
Well, thank you, Ross.
2:15:59
Again, any criticism accompanied by a donation is
2:16:02
love.
2:16:03
We're good.
2:16:04
Is love.
2:16:05
That is my favorite type of value for
2:16:07
value.
2:16:08
Complain more.
2:16:09
Yes.
2:16:11
Dame Shelley in Grand Forks, North Dakota, 333
2:16:13
.33. You got me with the puppies.
2:16:16
Dame Shelley, good.
2:16:19
Then we go to Surrounded by My Privilege,
2:16:22
Milwaukee, Wisconsin, 333.
2:16:24
This is a Jew money donation on behalf
2:16:27
of BBM the Cabal.
2:16:29
There we go.
2:16:30
There's our Jew money.
2:16:31
Where's our?
2:16:32
Our tally for Jew money is pretty low,
2:16:35
sub a thousand.
2:16:36
Keep up the good work, gents.
2:16:37
The Muslims are beating the Jews.
2:16:41
Yes.
2:16:41
Just throwing that out there.
2:16:42
By a long shot, by a long shot.
2:16:45
And then he accompanied a clip and he
2:16:49
says, please play, you choked.
2:16:52
Oh, and then he wanted followed by two
2:16:54
to the head.
2:16:55
Okay, I didn't realize he wanted that.
2:16:59
Okay, and he sent this in.
2:17:01
You choked.
2:17:04
Okay, that must've been a bet of some
2:17:06
kind.
2:17:07
I'm not sure.
2:17:08
Pretty extreme.
2:17:09
Yes, okay.
2:17:10
Thank you very much, Surrounded by My Privilege.
2:17:13
Now we go to Gus Cornell in Nevada
2:17:17
City, California.
2:17:18
Out of the note.
2:17:20
Gus came down from Nevada City.
2:17:23
Please accept this first time donation on behalf
2:17:25
of my wife.
2:17:26
This is a switcheroo.
2:17:27
Oh, okay.
2:17:28
For Leora, L-E-O-R-A, Cornell,
2:17:33
C-O-R-N-A-E-L.
2:17:36
Leora, Leora?
2:17:38
L-E-O-R-A, Leora.
2:17:40
Yes, done, got it.
2:17:41
In the switcheroo.
2:17:41
She hit me in the mouth during COVID.
2:17:43
Oh yeah, I talked to him about this.
2:17:45
She hit me in the mouth during COVID
2:17:47
and our relationship has never been better.
2:17:51
Ooh, nice.
2:17:52
In fact, he came up to me later.
2:17:55
And I'll finish the note.
2:17:56
We love the show and have never had
2:17:58
a fight.
2:18:00
Thank you for all you did, no jingles,
2:18:02
no karma.
2:18:02
He came up to me, he said, he
2:18:04
said literally that our show saved his marriage.
2:18:09
Wow.
2:18:10
And this was during COVID.
2:18:12
So I assume there was some beef between
2:18:15
the two of them about getting this vax
2:18:17
or something, or masking up, or there was
2:18:20
something that was, there was a discrepancy in
2:18:22
the way they were thinking.
2:18:24
And that's when he was introduced to the
2:18:26
show by her.
2:18:27
And she said, listen to this while you
2:18:29
sleep on the couch.
2:18:33
And he said it was the best thing
2:18:35
that ever happened.
2:18:36
Awesome.
2:18:37
And I do mean that.
2:18:39
Yeah, I do too.
2:18:40
I agree.
2:18:41
Another associate executive producership.
2:18:43
He racks them up almost every single show
2:18:45
for Eli the Coffee Guy from Bensonville, Illinois
2:18:47
to 1116.
2:18:49
He always sends us $200 plus the dates,
2:18:52
1116.
2:18:53
You can, you get it.
2:18:54
He says, a lot of you have been
2:18:57
asking when.
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The second can, I shook it up and
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a rare request for a jingle, Rev Al
2:19:44
all jitty with it.
2:19:46
Okay.
2:19:46
The GOP infighting is escalating.
2:19:50
Political says Democrats are outright jitty.
2:19:53
Happy to watch the GOP implode.
2:19:58
Good old Rev Al.
2:19:58
My current batch, he sent me three bags,
2:20:02
four bags of the latest blends.
2:20:05
Yes.
2:20:05
I want to thank him for that.
2:20:06
Oh yeah, good, good, good, good.
2:20:09
Onward to Scott Johnson in Kissimmee, Florida, 20477.
2:20:20
It's Kissimmee.
2:20:22
Well, he wrote Kassimmee.
2:20:24
He did not.
2:20:25
So we're both wrong.
2:20:27
Oh, Kassimmee, Kassimmee.
2:20:29
Yeah, that's what I said.
2:20:30
Kassimmee.
2:20:31
Kassimmee.
2:20:31
No, it's Kissimmee.
2:20:33
Yeah, Kissimmee.
2:20:38
Kassimmee, Kissimmee, Kissimmee.
2:20:39
Okay, in the morning, Jon and Dan, last
2:20:41
time I donated, I was annoyed at how
2:20:42
my note was red.
2:20:46
Okay.
2:20:47
Later, I recall that you two are regularly
2:20:49
mean to each other, so why should a
2:20:51
producer expect better treatment?
2:20:54
Then I discovered my own brother doubted the
2:20:56
capabilities of my photo export app.
2:20:59
He, too, was a scoffer until the day
2:21:01
his wife used photo export to select and
2:21:04
convert 140 movies from her iPhone in one
2:21:08
job.
2:21:11
She needed the movies in MP4 format to
2:21:13
create a year-in-the-life movie for
2:21:15
their granddaughter on her PC.
2:21:17
My brother was convinced, convinced I say, that
2:21:20
my app would crash or just refuse to
2:21:23
handle such a large job.
2:21:24
To my brother's amazement, photo expert converted and
2:21:28
copied the selected 140 movies in just a
2:21:31
few minutes to a USB drive connected to
2:21:34
her iPhone.
2:21:35
It's amazing.
2:21:35
I'd like to continue to support the best
2:21:38
podcast in the universe.
2:21:39
To make that possible, I need some installs
2:21:41
and reviews of my photo export to continue.
2:21:44
So please, if you have an iPhone or
2:21:46
iPad, what does he do for Android?
2:21:50
Nah, Android's so far.
2:21:51
Or if you know somebody who does install
2:21:52
photo export today, you can find it on
2:21:54
the Apple App Store.
2:21:56
And finally, a big thank you to everybody
2:21:58
who has already installed photo expert, Scott Johnson
2:22:02
and Kasimi.
2:22:05
Doing cross-platform Android and iOS is very
2:22:09
hard.
2:22:10
Yeah.
2:22:10
I know.
2:22:11
We have an app.
2:22:12
We have an app.
2:22:13
It's called Work.
2:22:15
Yeah, we have an app, Godcaster app.
2:22:17
Very hard to do, so it's difficult.
2:22:20
Hey, there's Sir Hebe of Hogtown.
2:22:22
I wonder if this is also Jew money.
2:22:26
From Alchua, Florida, $200.66. Adam, let's pretend
2:22:31
it's 1989 and I have a Dial MTV
2:22:34
-esque request.
2:22:36
But instead of Guns N' Roses or Def
2:22:37
Leppard, in your best Mark Rutter voice, please
2:22:41
say, swapping out Biden is not an option
2:22:45
and it's too risky to vote a third
2:22:48
party in New York State.
2:22:50
This is a little ode to my...
2:22:52
We'll do anything for money.
2:22:54
This is a little ode to my friend,
2:22:55
Christine, who I punched in the mouth a
2:22:57
few months back.
2:22:58
She married into a family of insufferable elitist
2:23:01
libs and this sort of humor is all
2:23:03
that's keeping her from climbing a clock tower.
2:23:07
I'd also like to do the switcheroo for
2:23:10
her, so please credit this donation to her,
2:23:13
Christine Bonus.
2:23:15
As-salamu alaykum, my brothers.
2:23:16
Sir Hebe of Hogtown.
2:23:18
Well, I'm very confused now.
2:23:19
Is this Jew money or Muslim money?
2:23:24
It's confusing.
2:23:25
So, Christine Bonus for the switcheroo.
2:23:27
You got it, you got it.
2:23:29
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2:23:52
Nisga'a, karma.
2:23:57
Duke Slambob, Rolling Knight of Guadalupe.
2:24:00
As we say in Texas, $200, associate executive
2:24:03
producer and he says, sirs, I ask what
2:24:05
is the outro music?
2:24:07
It sounds like Coltrane.
2:24:09
Drives me nuts I can't find it because
2:24:11
I loves me some Adam music.
2:24:14
Thanks to JCD for all you do.
2:24:17
Was lost a bit, but thanks to no
2:24:18
agenda.
2:24:19
Now I am Duke Slambob, Rolling Knight of
2:24:23
Guadalupe.
2:24:25
It is the, I can tell you what
2:24:27
it is.
2:24:27
It is called, where's the file here?
2:24:32
The Marriott Jazz Quintet and the title of
2:24:35
the music is On the Seventh Day and
2:24:39
we have been using that for forever, I
2:24:42
think.
2:24:42
Yeah, I think so, right off the bat
2:24:44
because it's one of the pod free or
2:24:46
whatever you had it called.
2:24:47
You had a website of pod free, royalty
2:24:51
free podcast stuff, whatever.
2:24:54
Yeah, and now that I just did that,
2:24:56
something, oh, hold on a second, this is
2:24:58
it here.
2:24:59
That's the one.
2:25:00
I don't think, I don't know if that
2:25:01
was, yeah, that was the Pod Save Music
2:25:03
Network.
2:25:04
That's what you're talking about.
2:25:04
Yes, that's right.
2:25:06
Hey, there's Brian and Susie from Liberty, Maine.
2:25:10
This is, Brian and I had a back
2:25:12
and forth and I was very hurt by
2:25:14
his comments and so he donated, which I
2:25:16
thank you, brother.
2:25:17
I love it.
2:25:18
What did he say to you that hurt
2:25:19
your feelings?
2:25:20
It was about, he was the one that
2:25:26
start off with, you know, as a Christian,
2:25:28
but it was- Oh, okay, one of
2:25:30
those notes.
2:25:30
Well, no, but it was really more about
2:25:34
us using Heather and Brett to, to explain
2:25:39
Gell-Mann amnesia.
2:25:42
And then after this back and forth, you
2:25:44
know, he was kind of like a don't
2:25:46
shoot inside the tent kind of guy.
2:25:48
And then after some back and forth, it
2:25:50
turns out that the thing that really irked
2:25:53
him is what you said at the end
2:25:55
of that whole segment.
2:25:56
And what was it that I said?
2:25:58
You said, why are you even listening to
2:26:00
that crap?
2:26:02
How can you listen- Oh, about Brett
2:26:03
and Heather?
2:26:05
Yeah.
2:26:05
Yeah, why are you listening to that crap?
2:26:07
You never answered it.
2:26:09
Because I said that I liked them and
2:26:11
that I liked their show.
2:26:13
And then, you know, so what happens is
2:26:15
people associate me with your horrible takes.
2:26:18
Yeah, well, it's not a horrible take.
2:26:20
I think it's an accurate take.
2:26:22
It's on the money.
2:26:23
Well, but this is it.
2:26:24
And then, so I'm like, well, and I
2:26:26
was really deflated by it.
2:26:29
I was, you know, you see, you don't
2:26:31
have my life.
2:26:32
I have to take all the crap, whatever
2:26:35
secret sauce you have that everyone complains to
2:26:37
me about you besides the fact that you
2:26:40
don't have a phone that operates and your
2:26:42
email blocks everybody.
2:26:44
No, actually, it does operate, but I just
2:26:46
keep it in the drawer.
2:26:46
And even if they could get through your
2:26:48
email filters, they can't spell your name.
2:26:50
And it goes to johnatdvorak.com 10 times
2:26:54
out of- Go ahead, there you go.
2:26:55
You know, it's like, it's .org, people.
2:26:58
You know, or it's like, I couldn't find
2:27:00
John's email address.
2:27:02
You know what?
2:27:03
Yeah, I'm not going to- No, these
2:27:05
are all your tricks.
2:27:07
So, you know- My tricks, my mind
2:27:10
tricks.
2:27:10
These are not the drones you're looking for.
2:27:12
And it's very discouraging to me.
2:27:16
You know, it brings me down because people
2:27:18
are always complaining about things you say to
2:27:21
me.
2:27:22
Yeah.
2:27:22
And sometimes they'll send, sometimes you email the
2:27:25
wrong guy and then they'll email back.
2:27:27
Yeah, once in a while, you just, yeah,
2:27:29
you give them, but you're very kirked with
2:27:31
the people that do that.
2:27:32
Because it's, it deflates me.
2:27:36
From Brian and Susie in Liberty, Maine.
2:27:38
Adam, love you, brother.
2:27:39
Love you too, John.
2:27:41
Save for the TikTok clips, which are like
2:27:43
seeing a dead deer on the road.
2:27:45
Kind of sad and a definite waste of
2:27:47
resources.
2:27:48
No jingles, no karma.
2:27:50
We'll see, there you go.
2:27:51
This guy's no good.
2:27:52
I've known this guy.
2:27:53
I've stayed at his house.
2:27:54
This guy is very good.
2:27:56
He's a very, very cool dude.
2:27:58
Well, if he was, he would like the
2:28:00
TikTok clips better.
2:28:02
That is not- Seems to me, I
2:28:03
could be wrong.
2:28:04
I never stayed at his house.
2:28:05
I do not measure people.
2:28:06
I haven't shacked up with the guy, so
2:28:08
I don't know.
2:28:08
I don't measure people by whether they like
2:28:11
TikTok clips or not.
2:28:13
Anonymous is last on the list.
2:28:16
Turned 79 on November 4th.
2:28:18
Gentlemen, I really enjoyed the show.
2:28:19
Continue the great work.
2:28:21
That's a $200 donation from Anonymous.
2:28:22
And I do have some meetup stuff, if
2:28:24
you want to do that now or at
2:28:25
the beginning of the next reading.
2:28:26
Let's do it.
2:28:27
People came to the meetup.
2:28:28
Are you kidding me?
2:28:29
Let's honor them.
2:28:30
Okay.
2:28:31
I'm going to start before I read the
2:28:33
notes, but I'm not going to read the
2:28:34
notes.
2:28:34
I'm going to just give some credits here
2:28:36
for the money that it's like.
2:28:38
For example, Tim and Susie Landreth from the
2:28:43
Landreth something and cattle.
2:28:46
It's a cattle ranch up in Nebraska.
2:28:48
They were out here, so they decided to
2:28:50
come to the meetup.
2:28:51
They didn't come here for the meetup.
2:28:52
He made that clear.
2:28:53
But he did drop off some T-bones
2:28:56
from Nebraska and they're frozen.
2:28:58
Nice.
2:28:59
In a container with the cold source in
2:29:03
there.
2:29:04
And so I got some meat.
2:29:06
By the way, that reminds me, Texas Slim
2:29:10
just signed a big agreement with the El
2:29:13
Salvadorian Ministry of Agriculture.
2:29:18
What does that mean?
2:29:20
I don't know, but there's a picture of
2:29:22
Texas Slim Minister of Agriculture in El Salvador.
2:29:27
I guess he's promoting beef in El Salvador.
2:29:32
But anytime Texas Slim gets some positive news,
2:29:35
I'm happy for him.
2:29:36
He just seems like a good guy.
2:29:38
He's a very good dude.
2:29:39
Very good.
2:29:39
Now we have John Lake in Santa Cruz
2:29:42
came in with a hundred bucks, but his
2:29:43
real kicker, which everybody who saw it said
2:29:47
this, you know, we're aghast.
2:29:49
He had, and I have it now.
2:29:51
He was thinking of giving me a copy,
2:29:53
but he decided to give me the original.
2:29:55
This is a letterhead.
2:29:56
This is letterhead paper, which I could probably
2:29:58
type a note on.
2:30:00
Letterhead paper from, it looks like the forties
2:30:04
or fifties.
2:30:05
It's really like an old piece of paper,
2:30:07
but with letterhead, official government letterhead.
2:30:10
Oh, okay.
2:30:11
And what kind of government, what is on
2:30:12
the letterhead?
2:30:15
Biological Warfare Lab, Fort Dietrich, Maryland.
2:30:20
Wow.
2:30:21
That's cool.
2:30:23
Yeah.
2:30:23
Yeah.
2:30:24
When you see, oh.
2:30:26
How about this?
2:30:26
You should type in there, you know, make
2:30:28
it look a little, do it on your
2:30:29
old Corona typewriter.
2:30:33
Keep under wraps.
2:30:34
The deer ticks are bad.
2:30:38
Yes.
2:30:39
We should talk about that at the show
2:30:40
sometime.
2:30:41
Anyway, I want to thank him for the,
2:30:42
that was a lot of trouble to do
2:30:44
that.
2:30:45
He came with a hundred dollars on top
2:30:46
of it.
2:30:46
That's cool.
2:30:47
But the, this letterhead is just dynamite.
2:30:50
It's a total collectible.
2:30:52
And now I need the pirate flag.
2:30:54
That's the way to John's heart.
2:30:56
With a collectible.
2:30:57
Yeah, pretty much.
2:30:58
Yeah.
2:30:59
150 bucks from Charlotte Worcester.
2:31:02
She comes in, she's out of San Francisco.
2:31:05
And then we have a Gen X donation.
2:31:09
Says very carefully, it's from Recalcitrant Steve, our
2:31:15
buddy.
2:31:15
Crazy Steve.
2:31:16
Sir Recalcitrant Crazy Steve.
2:31:18
Crazy Steve, yeah.
2:31:19
He was there, of course.
2:31:20
And so it was, also I got a
2:31:22
toy ounce, I think it's from the Duke
2:31:24
of San Francisco.
2:31:25
He never leaves a note or anything, he
2:31:26
just drops off a coin.
2:31:28
Silver?
2:31:29
Yeah.
2:31:29
But it's not the, it's one of the
2:31:32
ones that's got the Indian head on it.
2:31:33
It's a beautiful piece of work.
2:31:36
Another collectible.
2:31:37
Well, you know, an ounce.
2:31:39
Then I got this from, this is Sufina,
2:31:44
or Shufina English, who wrote this very nice
2:31:47
note.
2:31:47
And she was there, and she was a
2:31:50
great looking gal, I would say.
2:31:54
She's probably, I don't know, you couldn't tell
2:31:56
her age.
2:31:57
She could have been between 45 and 55
2:31:59
or so.
2:31:59
But she's one of these people, the note
2:32:01
came in, she dropped off, it was only
2:32:03
50, but she dropped off a note that
2:32:06
is on Queen Mary II, the boat's letterhead.
2:32:10
Wow, nice.
2:32:13
And if you look, and she's one of
2:32:14
those people, I mean, I don't like to
2:32:16
generalize, but I will, because I always do
2:32:18
it.
2:32:19
You look at her, and she looks like
2:32:23
one of these people that are travelers, that
2:32:27
have been everywhere, because her style and everything,
2:32:30
it's not European, it's international.
2:32:33
And she just pushed that out, as she's
2:32:37
obviously been around the world.
2:32:40
Even though it's sometimes a tough go with
2:32:44
value for value, and people are yelling at
2:32:46
me on X about you, we do have
2:32:49
some of the most interesting people in the
2:32:52
entire universe who are in Gitmo Nation.
2:32:55
I never cease to be amazed by the
2:32:59
talents and the experience that some people have,
2:33:03
that many people have.
2:33:04
It's just, I feel better already.
2:33:07
$100 last on this list here is from
2:33:10
Nis Jobz Karma.
2:33:13
You can do that if you want.
2:33:14
This is for Gia Como out of Crockett,
2:33:17
California.
2:33:18
Yeah, well, yes, there's a note.
2:33:21
Yeah, the note just says, from, you know,
2:33:24
it's just $100, Jobz Karma, please.
2:33:26
Thank you for four more years.
2:33:28
You show up to a meetup, you get
2:33:29
it.
2:33:30
Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.
2:33:33
Let's vote for jobs.
2:33:35
You thought.
2:33:36
Not messing around.
2:33:37
Not messing around.
2:33:37
And that's the basic over $50 from, in
2:33:40
fact, that was it.
2:33:41
There was nothing under $50.
2:33:42
It's kind of screwy.
2:33:45
Well, thank you all very much.
2:33:46
Those of you went to the meetup and
2:33:48
got John out of the house.
2:33:49
I haven't seen any pictures.
2:33:50
I'd love to see some pictures.
2:33:52
People send me pictures.
2:33:53
Luckily, there was no pictures taken, but I
2:33:54
do have this note, which I belabor the
2:33:56
point.
2:33:57
Extra note, yes.
2:33:58
This is for John.
2:34:00
One of the guys that showed up for
2:34:01
the first time, he says, his son of
2:34:03
Jupiter reveals no agenda meetup in Berkeley.
2:34:06
This guy's from someplace else.
2:34:08
And he's, this is, it was sent to
2:34:10
Jay from Stephen.
2:34:11
Okay.
2:34:12
And he goes, there was only one and
2:34:15
only John C.
2:34:16
Dvorak had to go see him.
2:34:17
The Berkeley meetup hosted by Steve was an
2:34:19
absolute blast.
2:34:20
There was about 40 people there.
2:34:22
It was crowded.
2:34:23
Oh, good.
2:34:24
And so he goes on and on and
2:34:25
on discussing this.
2:34:26
But no note would be complete without mentioning
2:34:28
the man of the hour, Dvorak.
2:34:31
I'd like to say we all had a
2:34:32
great time.
2:34:33
This is gonna be a bone of contention,
2:34:35
by the way.
2:34:35
We had a great time meeting John, but
2:34:38
from my perspective, he seemed to be a
2:34:40
recluse sitting in a corner of the table,
2:34:46
a table.
2:34:47
It was in the, it was in the
2:34:49
middle of everything, but okay.
2:34:50
But to my knowledge, he didn't say anything
2:34:53
to the crowd or thank the listeners.
2:34:56
Oh, you have to stand up and do
2:34:58
a speech.
2:34:59
You don't do that at your meetups?
2:35:00
Like, hello, everybody.
2:35:02
I'm John.
2:35:03
This is a public bar.
2:35:04
Hello.
2:35:06
Because I've seen people do this in public
2:35:08
bars and what do you say when you,
2:35:09
what do you think to yourself when you
2:35:10
see this?
2:35:11
You go, who is this asshole?
2:35:14
What people don't know is that John is
2:35:17
actually quite shy.
2:35:20
It's okay for me- Yeah, that's right.
2:35:21
It's okay for me to say that.
2:35:23
John is actually quite shy.
2:35:24
Shy, I think, is the right term.
2:35:27
You're not a recluse.
2:35:28
You're not introverted.
2:35:29
You're a little shy.
2:35:30
Well, I'm not gregarious as I could be.
2:35:33
So really, girls, you gotta go cozy up
2:35:37
to him.
2:35:39
He likes- He seemed to be a
2:35:41
recluse, sitting in the corner of the table,
2:35:42
safely away from everybody.
2:35:44
And he goes on, he says, and talking
2:35:46
to his son.
2:35:48
Now, I will tell you this.
2:35:50
I was sitting next to, actually, Matt the
2:35:53
Inventor was there with his, I would say,
2:35:56
gorgeous, tall fiancee, girlfriend, Paige.
2:36:01
I was talking to her.
2:36:03
Now, she doesn't look like my son, I
2:36:05
can assure you.
2:36:06
Oh, yeah.
2:36:06
But the other thing is- By the
2:36:08
way, if you wanna get John talking, bring
2:36:12
a hot-looking woman.
2:36:14
Then JC will talk for hours.
2:36:17
That JC, my son, wasn't even at the
2:36:21
meetup.
2:36:21
Oh, details.
2:36:23
So I have no idea what this guy's
2:36:24
talking about.
2:36:25
And why wasn't JC there?
2:36:26
This is an outrage.
2:36:28
Oh, he had something to do.
2:36:30
Did Jay come?
2:36:30
There was no desire to get a meetup
2:36:31
report with John or even a group of
2:36:33
photos.
2:36:34
Oh, no.
2:36:34
Nobody asked.
2:36:35
I have had my photo taken at these
2:36:37
meetups quite a few times.
2:36:39
I don't like it.
2:36:40
Additionally, I noticed that John had a Costco
2:36:43
-sized jar of cashews, which one of our
2:36:46
blind knight dropped off, saying it might be
2:36:48
a good tip of the day.
2:36:50
And I was going to distribute these and
2:36:52
have people describe them, but it was sealed.
2:36:54
So I didn't wanna open the seal.
2:36:57
On the table, someone might have gifted them
2:37:00
to him, of course, but they weren't being
2:37:03
offered out to anyone.
2:37:04
Oh, this is an outrage.
2:37:06
You weren't sharing your bounty.
2:37:10
Then after two hours, that says I was
2:37:12
there that long, I overheard while he was
2:37:13
leaving that John wasn't feeling well.
2:37:16
I don't know where he heard that from.
2:37:18
If that's the case, please disregard this message
2:37:21
above.
2:37:21
Okay, I was sick.
2:37:23
And I hope you feel better.
2:37:26
So this is a mismatch of reality, as
2:37:29
there ever was.
2:37:30
The only thing wrong with this note is
2:37:32
it wasn't sent to me, that it was
2:37:34
my fault.
2:37:35
Otherwise, perfect note.
2:37:36
I'm surprised it was sent to me, actually.
2:37:38
Thank you to these executive and associate executive
2:37:41
producers, and to the producers who came to
2:37:42
the meetup to get John out of the
2:37:44
house.
2:37:44
That is highly appreciated.
2:37:46
It's good for him, too.
2:37:48
We'll be thanking the rest of our supporters,
2:37:50
$50 and above.
2:37:51
Remember, you can always support us, and you
2:37:53
should, because we do this as a public
2:37:55
service, and it's your job to keep the
2:37:57
public service going.
2:38:00
Knowagendadonations.com, you can go there, you can
2:38:01
give us any amount, anytime you feel like
2:38:04
it.
2:38:04
That's how value for value works.
2:38:05
You get something out of it that is
2:38:07
of value to you.
2:38:08
Send it back.
2:38:09
Value.
2:38:10
Knowagendadonations.com.
2:38:11
Congratulations to the executive and associate executive producers.
2:38:14
Our formula is this.
2:38:16
We go out, we hit people in the
2:38:18
mouth.
2:38:22
Milk.
2:38:24
Water.
2:38:26
Order.
2:38:27
Get choked.
2:38:30
Shut up.
2:38:31
Stay safe.
2:38:33
So we were talking about it.
2:38:35
We might as well bring in the alpha
2:38:37
-gal syndrome.
2:38:38
This is the lone star tick that has
2:38:41
now claimed its first victim.
2:38:43
We have a dead person from alpha-gal
2:38:46
syndrome.
2:38:47
However, the reason for this is not some
2:38:51
bio lab in Maryland or maybe even, what
2:38:56
was that, what was the name of that?
2:38:58
Fort Detrick.
2:38:58
No, no, Fort Detrick, but then- Plum
2:39:00
Island.
2:39:00
Plum Island in New York.
2:39:02
No, no, the reason for this scourge is
2:39:05
something you might not expect.
2:39:07
This morning, a New Jersey man is the
2:39:09
first known person to die after a tick
2:39:11
bite triggered a severe meat allergy.
2:39:14
This is really something that people should be
2:39:17
aware of and physicians should be aware of.
2:39:19
The 47-year-old went camping with his
2:39:22
family in 2024 and got violently ill after
2:39:25
eating a steak.
2:39:26
He recovered, but two weeks later, he ate
2:39:28
a hamburger and again, got very sick, then
2:39:31
died.
2:39:32
The autopsy said his death was unexplained.
2:39:35
Then his wife had his blood tested at
2:39:37
the University of Virginia, where researchers determined he
2:39:40
had an allergy called alpha-gal syndrome caused
2:39:43
by the bite of the lone star tick.
2:39:46
What happens is people develop a hypersensitivity or
2:39:51
an allergy to this carbohydrate that is found
2:39:55
in animal meat.
2:39:56
And what triggers this hypersensitivity or this allergy,
2:40:00
so to speak, is a bite from the
2:40:03
lone star tick.
2:40:04
Lone star ticks are mainly found in the
2:40:06
Northeast, South, and Midwest.
2:40:08
They have a white dot, or lone star,
2:40:10
on their back.
2:40:11
Tick populations in general have been on the
2:40:13
rise and are spreading to more of the
2:40:15
U.S. One factor?
2:40:17
Climate change.
2:40:19
Due to climate change.
2:40:23
Finally.
2:40:23
That was a shaggy dog story.
2:40:25
Finally, we got one.
2:40:26
Finally.
2:40:26
I'm sick of this.
2:40:27
I would like somebody to explain to me
2:40:29
how this works.
2:40:32
I want somebody to explain.
2:40:35
There must be some expert out there.
2:40:37
How does this happen?
2:40:39
This is the screwiest thing I've ever heard.
2:40:42
By the way, you get this disease or
2:40:44
syndrome or whatever you wanna call it, condition,
2:40:47
where you're allergic to this carb or some
2:40:50
protein.
2:40:51
Yeah.
2:40:52
All mammalians.
2:40:53
If you eat possum, you're gonna get sick.
2:40:55
If you eat beef, you're gonna get sick.
2:40:57
Anything that's a...
2:40:58
Well, because alpha-gal is also included.
2:41:01
Oh, no, wait a minute, wait.
2:41:04
Possums are marsupials.
2:41:05
I'm not sure you would get sick from
2:41:07
possum meat.
2:41:08
Oh, well, then that's a bonus.
2:41:09
It's only mammalian meat.
2:41:11
That's a bonus.
2:41:13
Alpha-gal.
2:41:13
So if you eat a beaver.
2:41:14
Yeah, you're fine.
2:41:15
And heaven forbid we've all done that.
2:41:18
I'm sorry, that was bad.
2:41:20
Wow, very lowbrow, very lowbrow.
2:41:22
No, that was terrible.
2:41:23
I wasn't presenting.
2:41:24
You know what?
2:41:25
If it had been presented with a...
2:41:27
That's Marty level.
2:41:29
That was lowbrow.
2:41:30
No, well...
2:41:31
Yeah, it was, yeah, it was.
2:41:33
Maybe.
2:41:34
It was just not, it was uncalled for.
2:41:36
The point is, is that mammalian meat, what?
2:41:39
This makes no sense to me.
2:41:41
A tick bite, and the next thing you
2:41:43
know, you can't eat, you know, you can
2:41:45
eat mice, I guess.
2:41:46
We've already been through this.
2:41:47
This is alpha-gal is included in some
2:41:50
vaccines.
2:41:51
And I'm pretty sure that it's from the
2:41:53
vaccines.
2:41:54
I mean, I'm not a doctor.
2:41:57
So I'm just guessing, ultimately.
2:41:59
Well, that brings me to this clip.
2:42:02
Because this irks me too, about, this is
2:42:06
Pakistan diabetes.
2:42:08
Okay, here we go.
2:42:09
This is the BBC World Service with Lubna
2:42:11
Care, exploring Pakistan's diabetes crisis.
2:42:15
Was this while you were asleep?
2:42:16
This clip got recorded from the BBC World
2:42:19
Service.
2:42:21
I'm a British Pakistani pharmacist, and also an
2:42:23
actor, writer, and comedian.
2:42:25
In Pakistan, diabetes isn't just a medical condition,
2:42:28
it's a national crisis.
2:42:30
There's a lack of awareness.
2:42:32
There's low health literacy.
2:42:33
Public hospitals are stretched.
2:42:35
Pakistan's diabetes surge is fueled by urbanization, processed
2:42:39
foods, high in refined sugars, and increasingly sedentary
2:42:43
lifestyles.
2:42:44
I had a client, eight years old, and
2:42:47
he used to play cricket on the tab.
2:42:50
He doesn't know that he can play that
2:42:52
cricket outside in the ground.
2:42:55
If this is not addressed, then this will
2:42:57
be a crisis beyond what we can imagine
2:42:59
over the next decade.
2:43:01
Diabetes in Pakistan, a nation's struggle.
2:43:04
Another riveting BBC World report.
2:43:09
So, we now know that they're having an
2:43:11
epidemic of diabetes in Pakistan.
2:43:13
We have diabetes in like two-thirds of
2:43:15
the public here.
2:43:16
Why can't they fix this issue?
2:43:19
Is it just refined sugars?
2:43:21
Ban them.
2:43:22
We have a health system that's, why don't
2:43:26
we just make it illegal?
2:43:28
Find out what's causing it.
2:43:30
You know what's happening here, what's happening there.
2:43:31
Why is it happening in Pakistan?
2:43:33
Because of sedentary lifestyles, all of a sudden
2:43:35
it doesn't make a lot of sense.
2:43:36
But then they blame it on sugars or
2:43:38
processed food.
2:43:40
Make them illegal.
2:43:41
Why can't they do that?
2:43:42
They don't want to do it.
2:43:44
And the same thing with this alpha gal.
2:43:45
Figure out, this makes no sense that this
2:43:48
disease exists.
2:43:49
It's the stupidest disease you can imagine.
2:43:52
Or my wife with her wheat thing.
2:43:54
She can't eat anything that's from any grains
2:43:57
now.
2:43:58
Yeah, that's a weird one.
2:43:59
And it sucks.
2:44:01
You can't even take her out anymore.
2:44:05
Well, it saves, it's good for the budget.
2:44:07
Yeah, but it's not fun for her.
2:44:10
No, well, she has to find places where
2:44:13
they're very careful.
2:44:13
It's the point, this is how bad it
2:44:15
is.
2:44:15
And this is all these things, by the
2:44:17
way.
2:44:17
Not just this wheat deal.
2:44:19
But they find that if somebody's cut bread
2:44:23
on one of those slicers and they cut
2:44:26
meat on it.
2:44:27
Just that alone?
2:44:29
Right, at the granular level.
2:44:31
Wow.
2:44:31
A crumb.
2:44:33
And so, but it's the same thing with
2:44:35
these other problems that humans have.
2:44:39
And it makes no sense that they can't
2:44:41
just do an analysis and say, well, this
2:44:43
is what's causing it.
2:44:44
This is what you can do to correct
2:44:45
it.
2:44:45
And now we're good to go.
2:44:47
They don't bother.
2:44:50
Well, because for diabetes it's profitable.
2:44:53
I mean, obviously.
2:44:54
Oh yeah, it's a moneymaker.
2:44:55
Yeah, the reason, of course, is.
2:44:58
They're eating the dogs.
2:44:59
That's where it all comes from.
2:45:02
Stop eating the dogs.
2:45:04
Well, then you'll love this little ditty from
2:45:06
CBS F the Nation with Senator Bill Cassidy.
2:45:14
F the Nation.
2:45:15
This is another one you'll gripe about.
2:45:17
Secretary Kennedy has this handpicked panel of vaccine
2:45:21
advisors, you know them at ACIP.
2:45:23
They're gonna meet in a few days and
2:45:26
potentially vote on changing the hepatitis B vaccine
2:45:29
schedule for infants.
2:45:30
That same vaccine advisory group is also considering
2:45:34
the safety of vaccine ingredients like aluminum, which
2:45:38
would impact a number of childhood shots.
2:45:41
This should matter for American parents.
2:45:43
Are you comfortable with what they are about
2:45:47
to put to a vote?
2:45:49
I'm very concerned about this.
2:45:50
As it turns out, my medical practice focused
2:45:52
on hepatitis B.
2:45:54
And so we know that because of a
2:45:56
recommended dose at birth of hepatitis B vaccine,
2:45:59
recommended, not mandated, the number of children born
2:46:02
contracting hepatitis B at birth or shortly thereafter
2:46:06
has decreased from about 20,000 20 years
2:46:08
ago to like 200 now.
2:46:11
That's 20, effectively a clerical error.
2:46:13
We have decreased- Hold on a second.
2:46:15
He said the number of children born, which
2:46:18
is before they get the hepatitis B vaccine.
2:46:21
Let me listen to that again.
2:46:22
And so we know that because of a
2:46:24
recommended dose at birth of hepatitis B vaccine,
2:46:28
recommended, not mandated, the number of children born
2:46:31
contracting hepatitis B at birth or shortly thereafter
2:46:34
has decreased from about 20,000 20 years
2:46:37
ago to like 200 now.
2:46:39
That's 20, effectively a clerical error.
2:46:42
We have decreased the incidence of chronic hepatitis
2:46:45
B by 20,000 people over the last
2:46:48
two decades with this kind of recommendation.
2:46:51
And by the way, if you're infected at
2:46:52
birth, you're 95% likely to become a
2:46:56
chronic carrier.
2:46:57
The vaccine is safe.
2:46:59
It has been established.
2:47:00
And these ingredients they're speaking of have been
2:47:02
shown to be safe.
2:47:03
This is policy by people who don't understand
2:47:07
the epidemiology of hepatitis B or who've grown
2:47:10
comfortable with the fact that we've been so
2:47:12
successful with our recommendation that now the incidence
2:47:15
of hepatitis B is so low, they feel
2:47:17
like we can rest on our laurels.
2:47:19
I'm a doctor.
2:47:20
I have seen people die from vaccine-preventable
2:47:22
disease.
2:47:23
I want people to be healthy.
2:47:25
I want to make America healthy.
2:47:26
And you don't start by stopping recommendations that
2:47:29
have made us substantially healthier.
2:47:31
All right, how do you feel about that?
2:47:34
This guy is the stooge for the vaccine
2:47:38
industry.
2:47:39
He's always throwing out, I'm a doctor, I'm
2:47:43
a doctor.
2:47:44
And then he goes on and on and
2:47:45
condemns everyone.
2:47:46
He's the one who threatened Kennedy.
2:47:49
He says, you have to promise me that
2:47:51
you won't do this and that.
2:47:52
And it was always about vaccines.
2:47:53
This guy's a vaccine nut.
2:47:57
Here's Margaret Brennan asking if she regrets endorsing
2:48:01
him.
2:48:01
But that's why clarifying these statements, I think,
2:48:05
is important, since you interpret them differently.
2:48:09
I wonder, do you regret your confirmation vote
2:48:12
for Secretary Kennedy?
2:48:14
I smile because every reporter asked me that.
2:48:17
Well, because these questions run right into a
2:48:20
pledge that you extracted from him not to
2:48:23
tinker with some of the structures that were
2:48:26
set in place to have oversight of these
2:48:28
vaccines and this process.
2:48:31
Yes, so you live life forward.
2:48:33
Again, you just do.
2:48:35
Let today's own troubles be sufficient for the
2:48:37
day.
2:48:38
And I'll credit the Secretary.
2:48:39
He's brought attention to things like ultra-processed
2:48:41
food that has, frankly, never received this sort
2:48:43
of attention before.
2:48:45
And people praise him for that.
2:48:46
So he and I have publicly disagreed on
2:48:48
some matters, but I strongly agree with him
2:48:50
on others.
2:48:51
And so that's how I'll answer your question.
2:48:54
That sounds like yes.
2:48:58
No, it doesn't.
2:49:00
It doesn't at all.
2:49:00
It doesn't sound like yes at all.
2:49:03
She's terrible.
2:49:05
Yes, she is.
2:49:06
Is she even a journalist of any sort?
2:49:09
She's the worst.
2:49:10
I have a couple of- She used
2:49:12
to be on the Today Show or the
2:49:14
Morning Show, the CBS or NBC, I can't
2:49:16
remember which one, but it was the CBS
2:49:18
show.
2:49:19
And she used to be one of the
2:49:20
hosts there.
2:49:21
And every time Trump's name would, she's a
2:49:24
pretty woman, and she, but she's got the
2:49:28
world, she really looks, she makes herself look
2:49:30
ugly by scowling.
2:49:31
And she would always scowl.
2:49:33
And when somebody mentioned Trump or the Republicans,
2:49:36
we mentioned Republicans, she's scowl.
2:49:39
Yeah, she's a scowler.
2:49:39
And then when I saw her during the
2:49:41
COVID era, I mentioned this on the show,
2:49:44
she was in her house.
2:49:45
Yeah.
2:49:46
In somebody's interview.
2:49:47
And I didn't realize it.
2:49:48
She had a hairband on the hair thing
2:49:52
over the top of her head.
2:49:53
And she was a dead ringer for Hillary,
2:49:55
a younger Hillary.
2:49:56
Oh, that's right.
2:49:57
She's a Hillary Clinton clone.
2:49:58
Yeah, that's right.
2:49:59
Well, she did look kind of cute with
2:50:01
a hairband.
2:50:02
No, she didn't.
2:50:04
She didn't.
2:50:05
So I'm going to save my Margaret clips
2:50:07
with the Secretary of the Army, which is
2:50:09
about drones, which is a fantastic little series
2:50:13
because this is exactly what my insider from
2:50:16
the Department of War told me what they
2:50:18
were working on.
2:50:19
And it's all, but it's like four clips,
2:50:22
and I'm looking at the time, and I
2:50:24
think that we should probably get ready to
2:50:27
go because we still have tip of the
2:50:29
day.
2:50:29
We've got to end the show mixes, but
2:50:30
I did want to play one last clip
2:50:34
as the AI industry has now gone lower
2:50:37
than they could have ever gone.
2:50:39
The lowest of the low.
2:50:42
Once we've addicted people to these chat bots
2:50:45
and we've got kids, you know, killing themselves
2:50:48
over what the chat bot told them to
2:50:50
do.
2:50:50
Here we go.
2:50:51
These seniors are learning about artificial intelligence and
2:50:55
interacting with it in a whole new way.
2:50:57
AI is the most accessible technology that's really
2:51:00
ever been created.
2:51:02
Jacob Catalano, a former product designer at Snapchat,
2:51:05
has created a user-friendly AI service for
2:51:08
seniors called Cella Foster.
2:51:10
She's not going to judge you.
2:51:11
She's not going to, you know, run out
2:51:13
of time or lose patience.
2:51:14
I'm going to go out today.
2:51:15
Do I need a jacket or anything like
2:51:18
that?
2:51:18
Right now in Santa Monica, it's clear at
2:51:21
about 60 degrees Fahrenheit.
2:51:23
A light jacket might be a good idea.
2:51:24
Unlike chat bots where you have to type
2:51:26
in questions, Stella lets you call a phone
2:51:29
number and talk to AI directly.
2:51:31
It can even remember details about you, making
2:51:34
interactions personalized.
2:51:36
So it opens up a whole new audience
2:51:37
that might've been shut out from technology over
2:51:39
the last decade, two decades.
2:51:41
Humans talk and they text and that's what
2:51:44
AI is.
2:51:45
So if you can do that, you can
2:51:47
use AI.
2:51:48
AI is very knowledgeable and you can use
2:51:51
it to do better things in life.
2:51:55
I'm a writer and an artist and I'll
2:51:57
be using it for my writing, I'm sure.
2:51:59
I think AI sounds great.
2:52:01
I think it's something that seniors could definitely
2:52:05
use and benefit from.
2:52:09
Stella Foster lets users chat for free on
2:52:12
the phone for an hour each day.
2:52:14
If you want more, it's $30 a month.
2:52:16
There are no limits on texting.
2:52:19
Oh man, this is so, like they're so
2:52:21
hard up for customers.
2:52:23
Let's get the old people.
2:52:25
30 bucks a month from your pension.
2:52:29
And you know these people are gonna be
2:52:30
on the phone with it the whole day.
2:52:32
Oh yeah.
2:52:33
Until it says, you know what?
2:52:35
You should probably just kill yourself.
2:52:37
Yeah, that's the problem with these AI systems.
2:52:40
They're sick.
2:52:41
They wind up telling you to kill yourself.
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should be.
3:00:23
Let me check this out.
3:00:24
Wow, this show should be in the Smithsonian.
3:00:28
What was the full thing, actually?
3:00:30
Wow, this show should be in the Smithsonian.
3:00:33
Oh, that was your first prompt.
3:00:35
You forgot to remove the first prompt and
3:00:37
just leave the second one in.
3:00:38
Wow, this show should be in the Smithsonian.
3:00:41
That's not bad.
3:00:41
I like it.
3:00:42
Here's your second one.
3:00:44
Yuppers, best podcast in the universe.
3:00:47
No, no, that's not Yuppers.
3:00:49
I'm liking the other one better.
3:00:51
But let me try mine.
3:00:52
I'm having so much fun right now.
3:00:54
You couldn't even understand it, could you?
3:00:57
No, and it's like, what was the point?
3:00:59
No, because we're ending the show.
3:01:01
We're not having fun.
3:01:02
Here we go.
3:01:02
That's the craziest thing I've ever heard in
3:01:04
my life.
3:01:06
No, I think yours wins.
3:01:07
Let me play it one more time.
3:01:08
Wow, this show should be in the Smithsonian.
3:01:11
As should that model from the LLM.
3:01:13
Hey, everybody, it's Cypher John, tip of the
3:01:15
day.
3:01:16
Great advice for you and me.
3:01:19
Just a tip with JCB.
3:01:23
And sometimes Adam.
3:01:26
Which brings me to a complaint.
3:01:28
Uh-oh.
3:01:28
So you said that model, you know, and
3:01:31
it's a cute one, that voice.
3:01:33
Because she does something, I don't know what
3:01:35
their voice, but.
3:01:37
The cheap bastards at 11 Labs, you know,
3:01:40
they keep, they take my voices away and
3:01:42
they give me these, I can't get the
3:01:44
voices I want to use back.
3:01:45
Oh, you've used them too many times.
3:01:48
And they had like, I had 10 that
3:01:50
I could select from and now I got
3:01:52
three, take it or leave it.
3:01:55
They keep doing this and they keep changing
3:01:58
stuff.
3:01:59
Oh, that sucks.
3:02:00
They want me to pay.
3:02:02
Well, of course they want you to pay.
3:02:04
If you pay, then you get to, here,
3:02:05
I got my voice.
3:02:07
No, no, if I pay, I know there's
3:02:08
all these things I can do, but I
3:02:10
don't, I don't feel, I don't want to
3:02:12
pay.
3:02:13
Yeah, I sampled my voice.
3:02:17
You paid?
3:02:17
How much did you pay?
3:02:19
I don't know.
3:02:20
It's too much.
3:02:21
Yeah, it's too much.
3:02:22
Let me see what this is.
3:02:23
Let me see how this works out today.
3:02:25
Let me see if it's working.
3:02:27
John is mean to me.
3:02:29
It doesn't even sound like me.
3:02:30
Let me try this one.
3:02:31
John is mean to me.
3:02:32
He sounds just like you.
3:02:33
Really?
3:02:34
Yeah.
3:02:35
No, let me see.
3:02:36
Yeah, in fact, when you, when you segue
3:02:38
back to your own voice, it sounded like
3:02:40
the same guy.
3:02:41
Really?
3:02:41
You thought it sounded like me?
3:02:43
Yeah, I think it sounds exactly like you.
3:02:45
It doesn't have quite the intonation, but it's
3:02:46
not bad.
3:02:47
Let me try this one.
3:02:48
Let me see if this one works better.
3:02:50
Hold on.
3:02:50
Now it's time for the tip of day.
3:02:53
Tip of day?
3:02:54
Tip of day?
3:02:56
That was my mistake.
3:02:58
Tip of day.
3:02:59
But when you do your own voice, you
3:03:01
can do other stuff.
3:03:02
Now it's time for the tip of the
3:03:03
day.
3:03:04
That sounds like me.
3:03:06
It even has my echo in my room.
3:03:08
Now it's time for the tip of the
3:03:10
day.
3:03:11
But you can also do something like, you
3:03:13
can tell it to be sexy.
3:03:15
You know, I think there's something fascinating about
3:03:17
the fact that instead of sampling like Clinton
3:03:20
or the president or something you can use,
3:03:23
this is like the vanity search.
3:03:25
Let me just clone my own voice.
3:03:27
I'm going to tell you something.
3:03:28
You have that voice already.
3:03:31
You don't understand.
3:03:33
I don't want to have to work.
3:03:34
I just want to have an AI that
3:03:36
talks to you and keeps you busy for
3:03:38
three and a half hours twice a day.
3:03:40
Well, it'd be interesting to try, but it's
3:03:42
going to be dull.
3:03:43
Here, listen to this.
3:03:44
Now it's time for the tip of the
3:03:46
day.
3:03:52
You should pay for this stuff, man.
3:03:54
I like the way you amuse yourself by
3:03:56
sampling yourself.
3:03:59
This is all intended for me to just
3:04:01
be able to not get up at 5
3:04:03
a.m. on Sundays.
3:04:04
That's all that this is about, just once
3:04:06
a week have AI Adam do the show
3:04:09
with you.
3:04:10
I'm building this whole system.
3:04:12
Well, good for you.
3:04:14
It won't work because it cannot interact.
3:04:16
It can be mean to you.
3:04:18
Well, no, but it can't interact.
3:04:20
Yeah, not yet.
3:04:21
This is just the first inning, John.
3:04:23
Don't you know that AI is the future?
3:04:29
Tip of the day.
3:04:31
I gave this tip out in one of
3:04:33
the shows before tip of the day existed.
3:04:36
I want to make it official to put
3:04:38
it in the list so when you go
3:04:40
to noagendafund.com you find it.
3:04:42
Okay.
3:04:43
I looked there.
3:04:44
I couldn't find it.
3:04:45
They didn't even pick it up because they
3:04:47
pick up a lot of stuff.
3:04:48
Like if you say you like a book,
3:04:50
boom, it'll be in there.
3:04:51
But it's not tip of the day, but
3:04:52
they have all these things that we've ever,
3:04:54
everything we've ever suggested in terms of gigawatt
3:04:58
coffee and the rest of it.
3:05:00
This is the Bow Shield T9 from Boeing
3:05:04
Aircraft Company.
3:05:06
Uh-huh.
3:05:08
This is a substitute for Ranch Hand, which
3:05:11
is my all-time favorite substitute for WD
3:05:14
-40.
3:05:14
It's just better.
3:05:15
Yeah.
3:05:16
And this is the Boeing version of WD
3:05:19
-40 that's better, and it came as a
3:05:22
tip from one of our producers who said,
3:05:24
you know, tip of the day you should
3:05:25
do this, and he went on a long
3:05:26
exposition on why he loves this stuff.
3:05:28
He's a mechanic.
3:05:30
And I said, well, you know, I think
3:05:31
we talked about it already, and we did,
3:05:33
I'm sure, although I couldn't find any evidence
3:05:36
of it.
3:05:36
What's it called again?
3:05:38
Bow Shield, B-O-E Shield T9.
3:05:42
Bow Shield T9.
3:05:44
Okay.
3:05:46
And it is a cheap-looking can, and
3:05:50
it says from Boeing, it says at the
3:05:52
bottom, developed by the Boeing Corporation.
3:05:57
So it's used for, it's a lubricant, it's
3:06:00
a degreaser, it's a deruster.
3:06:07
It does everything WD-40 does, only it
3:06:10
does it better.
3:06:11
And it's also good like a liquid bearings.
3:06:13
It's good for getting something that's squeaky that
3:06:17
will eliminate it in no time.
3:06:19
Like your chair?
3:06:21
It would do the chair.
3:06:22
Yeah.
3:06:22
The problem is you have to be careful
3:06:25
with this and the wrench hand and all
3:06:27
of these things if it gets on the
3:06:29
floor.
3:06:30
Oh, because you cannot, you can't pick it
3:06:33
up.
3:06:33
You can't.
3:06:33
Oh, you know what?
3:06:34
You did do this on August 1, 2024.
3:06:40
Yeah, it was pre-tip of the day,
3:06:41
though.
3:06:41
It wasn't tip of the day.
3:06:42
It wasn't official.
3:06:44
I, you know, this is the one that
3:06:46
I wanted to plug some time ago, and
3:06:48
I came up with liquid bearing, which was
3:06:49
the second to it.
3:06:52
This is called Bow Shield T9.
3:06:55
This is a...
3:06:56
This is, this was tip of the day.
3:06:59
I can't find it on the website.
3:07:01
Well, then, I mean, I can just play
3:07:03
this for you if you want to do
3:07:04
it.
3:07:05
You're saying exactly the same thing, which is
3:07:08
kind of amazing.
3:07:10
I'm pretty consistent the way I present.
3:07:12
You're a consistent dude.
3:07:14
All right, continue with your Bow Shield T9.
3:07:17
Don't get any of these products on the
3:07:19
floor.
3:07:20
No.
3:07:21
You can't.
3:07:22
If you try to rub it off like
3:07:23
you take a towel and get it off,
3:07:24
it just spreads it, and you end up
3:07:26
with a part of the floor that's so
3:07:28
slippery that you'll kill yourself.
3:07:30
You have to get out a bunch of
3:07:32
detergent, and you've got to get this stuff
3:07:34
wiped up.
3:07:35
It's just horrible in that regard.
3:07:37
And so it's hard to just spray on
3:07:39
something because if there's a floor, and it
3:07:41
drips down there, you know, you're pretty...
3:07:43
Well, to be honest, now, what kind of
3:07:45
disbursement mechanism does it have?
3:07:47
Does it have, like, the straw that WD
3:07:50
-40 has?
3:07:50
It has the straw, but I never use
3:07:52
the straw.
3:07:53
I always use the straw.
3:07:54
I love the straw on the WD-40.
3:07:56
The problem is if you...
3:07:58
Don't use WD-40.
3:07:59
Use Ranch Handle T9.
3:08:01
Well, but here's what I'm worried about, because
3:08:03
when you spray it into hinges on the
3:08:05
door, that's where I typically wind up using
3:08:07
it.
3:08:07
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
3:08:08
If that gets on the door, it's very
3:08:11
hard to get off the door.
3:08:12
And I'm sure the same with this Bowflex
3:08:17
T9 stuff.
3:08:19
Bowflex.
3:08:21
T9.
3:08:21
Whatever it's called.
3:08:23
I'm sure it's hard to get off.
3:08:24
I mean, you've got to be careful with
3:08:25
this stuff.
3:08:26
You know, we need lessons in how to
3:08:28
apply it.
3:08:29
That would be a good tip of the
3:08:30
day.
3:08:30
Well, that's why I like liquid bearing so
3:08:32
much, because it's not in a spray can.
3:08:34
It's in a little plastic thing with a
3:08:36
very fine point, a little dropper, and so
3:08:40
you get what you can get.
3:08:42
That's what's great for hinges.
3:08:43
One drop.
3:08:44
You can get one drop right where you
3:08:45
want it, and then it'll spread itself throughout.
3:08:48
It's great for locks.
3:08:49
But let's be honest.
3:08:50
Oh, locks is another one.
3:08:51
Let's be honest.
3:08:53
These are great American inventions.
3:08:57
And they're needed.
3:08:58
And you don't...
3:08:58
You can't go into Europe and buy any
3:09:00
of this.
3:09:01
They don't have this in Europe.
3:09:02
If you say WD-40, they're like, what?
3:09:05
You say Ranch Hand, they're like, what?
3:09:07
You say Bowflex T9, they're like, what?
3:09:10
Bow Shield.
3:09:11
Bow Shield T9.
3:09:12
Now, this is unknown in Europe.
3:09:14
I wonder if you can even ship it
3:09:15
to Europe.
3:09:16
It's probably illegal.
3:09:19
Well, I have no knowledge of this one
3:09:21
way or the other.
3:09:21
Okay.
3:09:23
I mean, I go shopping when I'm in
3:09:25
Europe.
3:09:26
I go to this, you know, like that
3:09:28
huge store.
3:09:31
When's the last time you were in Europe?
3:09:33
2017.
3:09:35
Yeah, it's a while ago.
3:09:37
Yeah, it's just a bit.
3:09:38
And I'm not going now.
3:09:40
And that, ladies and gentlemen, in a reprise,
3:09:43
but well worth it, is John C.
3:09:45
Dvorak's Tip of the Day.
3:09:46
Find them all at tipoftheday.net.
3:09:49
Great advice for you and me.
3:09:52
Just a tip with JCB.
3:09:55
And sometimes Adam.
3:09:58
Created by Dana Brunetti.
3:09:59
They need a lot of lube in Europe,
3:10:01
so I'm just saying.
3:10:02
Could be good for them.
3:10:04
Could be a good thing.
3:10:05
By the way, of all these things, I
3:10:07
still think that little bottle of liquid bearings
3:10:09
is the best.
3:10:11
It's the best.
3:10:13
Coming up next on your No Agenda stream,
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3:10:17
The ladies will bring you the latest value
3:10:18
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3:10:19
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3:10:20
It's streaming for you on noagendastream.com.
3:10:25
And before that, we do have some end
3:10:27
of show mixes.
3:10:28
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3:10:31
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with a beautiful A.I. Slop.
3:10:37
In fact, it is the A.I. Slop
3:10:38
Orchestra.
3:10:40
And you can listen to all of those
3:10:41
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3:10:59
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3:11:00
And I'm from Northern Silicon Valley where it's
3:11:02
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3:11:05
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3:11:06
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3:11:16
Until then, adios, mofos, a-hooey-hooey, and
3:11:20
such.
3:11:29
Thanks, Obama.
3:11:30
You love to techno stuff.
3:11:32
You love to techno stuff.
3:11:33
I do.
3:11:34
I do.
3:11:36
I do.
3:11:43
Would you go to, like, a concert by
3:11:48
Tiesto?
3:11:49
No.
3:11:50
No.
3:11:51
I could get you.
3:11:53
I could get you up on the DJ
3:11:55
booth.
3:11:57
Yeah, I don't know.
3:13:11
Her English is worse off now, someone check
3:13:13
if there's a connect between her and Chairman
3:13:15
Mao What really happened after Jack Layton, she
3:13:19
changed her accent Code switching not hated, but
3:13:21
we need explaining 416-905-647-289, area
3:13:26
codes in the 6 to me and to
3:13:28
you They just rhyme, bikes on sidewalks more
3:13:31
than streets Oven mitts and Uber Eats, Punjabis
3:13:34
and Sikhs who did this to us Well
3:13:36
the elites, 2SLGBQ+, let's just say they're
3:13:39
not like us Watching city council meetings on
3:13:42
YouTube, they were sucks Protests all day and
3:13:45
all night, citizens put up a fight Trucker
3:13:47
protests at Queens Park, I was there it
3:13:49
just felt right T-O-R-O-N
3:13:51
-T-O, it's the place I've come to
3:13:53
know It's the place I wanna leave, it's
3:13:55
the place you wanna go T, the O,
3:13:58
the R, the O, the N, place the
3:14:01
T You're mean to John,
3:14:11
why must you be mean to John Gee
3:14:18
Adam, can't you see You love to see
3:14:22
him crying with each show You call him
3:14:29
Boomer and say he's old Afterwards he's left
3:14:34
alone singing the blues and sighing You treat
3:14:41
him coldly each show of the year You
3:14:48
always scold him whenever the trollers are near
3:14:54
Why it must be great fun to be
3:14:59
mean to John Gee Adam, can't you see
3:15:06
You just love seeing me The best
3:15:19
podcast in the universe Adios, mofo Dvorak.org
3:15:25
slash N-A Wow, this show should be
3:15:29
in the Smithsonian
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