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Out of office, eh, eh, eh, eh.
Adam Curry, John C.
Dvorak.
It's Thursday, December 4th, 2025.
This is your award-winning Gitmo Nation Media
Assassination Episode 1822.
This is no agenda.
Placing crazy bets and broadcasting live from the
heart of the Texas Hill Country here in
FEMA Region Number 6 in the morning, everybody.
I'm Adam Curry.
Man from Northern Silicon Valley, where we're celebrating
the fact that they caught the Mad Bomber.
I'm John C.
Dvorak.
It's Crackpot and Buzzkill.
In the morning.
Well, here's what caught my eye as the
quad screen lit up with, we've got the
bomber.
We were told by Glenn Beck's, uh, forensic,
uh, analyst that it was a woman.
Heh.
Heh.
And they were 99% sure.
Well, I guess somebody was wrong.
Yeah, how about that?
Who is this guy?
Some guy lives in a really fancy house.
Really?
Yeah, the house is dynamite.
Oh, well, it'll be up for sale soon.
Cheap.
Well, I mean, he might be bored or
he might be, who knows?
They haven't explained it.
Yeah.
So weird.
I mean, they're all patented.
They had this huge press conference.
They're all patting each other on the back
and then condemning the old Biden administration.
Oh, yeah.
They knew.
They knew.
They didn't do anything.
They sat on this cold case.
They didn't do anything.
They sat on it.
Yeah, I love seeing Judge Jeanine speak in
that official role is just wrong.
There's something wrong about it.
You know, it's the, the, the worlds of
show business and politics when they collide like
that.
It's odd.
Yeah, well, Bongino is up there to yak
it away.
Oh, really?
He got cut off.
Oh, by whom?
No, it just went, screen went blank.
They had a glitch.
Oh, what was he saying?
Code Bongino?
I don't know what he was doing.
The same thing as Patel.
Everybody, this is, yeah, you know, we're great.
It took forever.
And we had a big team and we
worked 24 seven.
Yeah.
33 hours nonstop.
We had millions and millions of detailed pieces
of evidence that we had to go through
and analyze that the other guys are too
lazy to do it.
Yeah.
Those guys.
Fresh eyes.
Cliche from every movie you've ever seen.
Fresh eyes.
I like that.
Yeah.
That's good.
Fresh eyes is fantastic.
Well, that, of course, is not.
I mean, they're real busy, obviously, because now
that we've uncovered this, who knows what will
happen with the Epstein files?
We're all waiting with bated breath.
But wait, we have new pictures.
House Democrats released more than 150 still images
and more than a dozen short videos of
the Caribbean estate of late convicted sex offender
Jeffrey Epstein.
The images do not show any people at
the lavish home.
Private island in the U.S. Virgin Islands.
They do show the compound's pool area, several
bedrooms and bathrooms in a room that mysteriously
contains a dental chair.
And you saw the walls are adorned with
masks of men's faces.
Congress is waiting for the Justice Department to
release the right so-called Epstein files.
All of them.
Justice must do so within 30 days of
President Trump signing the Epstein Files Transparency Act
on November 19th.
This was great.
I love this picture of the dentist chair
with these protruding masks on the wall is
just what is what in the world is
that is going on there?
And how can we know of any pictures
of Zorro Ranch?
That's that's the place where I was probably
more there.
That's a question.
One of the unanswered questions.
The other one to me is, hey, hey,
they had a room is full of videotapes.
What?
No one wants to talk about.
Hold on a second, because Ro Khanna, Ro
Khanna was on with the Poopmeister, Anderson Pooper,
and he has some stuff to say about
it.
Tonight, we're getting an inside look at some
of the rooms in Jeffrey Epstein's notorious home
on a private Caribbean island where underage girls
and young women were trafficked and sexually abused.
Democrats on the House Oversight Committee released these
photos as well as videos they say have
not been made public before.
One of the images shows what appears to
be a dentist chair in one room with
masks on a wall.
Another shows a blackboard with some words scribbled
on it.
Words.
Deception.
Words.
Power deception.
Words.
There's also this video showing the manicured grounds
of this state with pantries and winding paths
and a large pool.
Oh, no.
The Department of Justice has 16 days before
they have to release documents related to its
investigation.
I wonder, is the Democrat the listing agent
for this island or something?
Because it really is like a sales video.
Like, oh, that kitchen looks nice.
Yeah, I can do without the crazy dentist
chair.
But everything else is pretty cool.
Epstein is required by the bill that Congress
passed and President Trump recently signed into law.
Now, we learned today that Epstein's accomplice, Ghislaine
Maxwell, is planning to file a petition asking
a judge to release her from prison.
She's serving a 20-year sentence for her
sex trafficking conviction.
Joining us tonight, California Congressman Ro Khanna, member
of the Oversight Committee, who along with Republican
Congressman Thomas Massie led the fight to pass
that bill, forcing the release of the Epstein
file.
So, Congressman, I mean, do these video images
fill in any blanks for you, raising a
new question?
I'm wondering what stands out to you.
What stands out is the dentist chair.
Well, the dentist chair was concerning to me.
Obviously, we need to know the facts.
But what we need to know is, were
underage girls abused on that chair?
What happened there?
What we do know from the survivors is
their fillings.
Maybe they had a dentist on board, Dan.
It was a part of the deal.
You get free cleaning.
Hey, come to the island.
We got a dentist on staff.
We get free cleaning.
We can bleach the teeth a little bit.
You look a little better.
You can change your jaw.
What we need to know is, were underage
girls abused on that chair?
What happened there?
What we do know from the survivors is
there are many such photos in the Epstein
files.
We know that from the survivors and their
lawyers.
All of those need to be released.
Every file, every photo, every interview memorandum, while
protecting victims, need to be released by federal
law in the next 16 days.
Hey, wait, wait, wait.
Why didn't he mention the videotapes?
No, no, no, no.
Actually, this interview goes in an unexpected direction.
I got two more clips here.
Do you expect, I mean, do you know
what to expect in 16 days in terms
of what level of redaction there's going to
be?
Have you gotten any word from the Department
of Justice how they are handling this?
Congressman Massey and I have requested to meet
with Attorney General Pam Bondi or someone on
her team handling the investigation.
So far, we have not heard back.
We're going to continue to pursue it.
Of course, Congressman Massey is on the Judiciary
Committee.
So Pam Bondi will be coming before that
committee.
But now every person at the Justice Department
who does not cooperate in releasing these files
would be violating federal law.
They would be subject to federal penalties.
So we expect that there will be a
release and we're going to continue to fight
to make sure that it is transparent and
complete.
Your committee says it's also received about 5
,000 documents in response to subpoenas to JPMorgan,
Deutsche Bank, for Epstein's financial records.
I don't know how much of those the
committee's been able to review, but do they,
I mean, what do you hope to find
in those documents?
Does anything connect any dots for you?
Well, the committee is going through that.
There are a lot of documents.
But the big question is, how is Jeffrey
Epstein, a former school teacher, worth a half
a billion dollars?
Who is funding him?
Why are people giving him this money?
And what was he doing for this money?
Those are things that we're going to get
from these documents.
As you know, Senator Wyden has been investigating
this in the Senate for over a year.
That is going to be critical to understanding
who all was involved.
That took a sudden change, a turn all
of a sudden.
We went from victims to who was funding
him.
What's the money flows?
We're looking into that.
That should get some people rather worried, particularly
in the banking sector.
How about Chase?
Jamie Dimon.
Jamie Dimon, Chase.
By the way, thank you, trolls.
Jeffrey Epstein's last known girlfriend, Karina Shuliak, was
a dentist from Belarus whom he reportedly paid
to put through dental school.
She's listed as a dentistry practitioner in St.
Thomas, with over five years of experience in
the field.
Shuliak was dating Epstein at the time of
his arrest and death in 2019.
He made his final phone call to her
from jail.
Oh, no.
They had a dentist chair there because his
girlfriend was a dentist.
Oh, no.
Can nobody do Google searches anymore?
That's funny.
That seems like an obvious thing to look
up.
Well, somebody in the chat room or the
troll room could do them.
Yeah.
Well, that's why we're the best podcast in
the universe.
Yeah, it's instant.
Honestly, I didn't even think to look up
it myself.
But all right.
Well, that's nuts.
Whoa.
Was anyone abused?
Well, I don't know.
If it was a bad root canal, maybe.
Maybe.
Kohana goes on here.
We've talked about Ghislaine Maxwell.
Kohana.
Planning to ask a judge.
That's his new name.
Yeah, Kohana.
Kohana.
Thank you for catching that.
Kohana, yes.
Her from prison according to a new court
filing.
What do you think the chances of that
actually are given the unknowns of, you know,
the interview she had with President Trump's former
personal attorney, who's now a high level of
the Department of Justice?
What do you think is going to happen
there?
It would be a slap in the face
of the survivors.
Anderson, as you imagine, I've gotten to know
some of these survivors.
I've spent time with them.
When you mention Ghislaine Maxwell's name, they have
a trauma and an anger.
This is someone who abused them.
This is someone who facilitated their abuse.
The fact that we're even discussing any leniency
for her or letting her out of jail
is frankly disgusting.
And the survivors themselves get so emotional when
people bring up Maxwell.
A House Oversight Committee spokesperson today earlier today
criticized Democrats on the committee, your committee, for
releasing these videos and photos saying, quote, it
is odd that Democrats are once again releasing
selective information as they have done before.
I'm wondering what your response to that is.
Let's release it all.
That's what Massey and my bill does.
If you don't think there's anything there, get
the files out.
If you think it's selective, get the files
out.
Let's finally get the information out there, most
importantly, because of the thousand survivors.
And that's what they want.
And so we end this kind of blame
game and name calling.
Let's just get it all out there in
the next 16 days.
Yeah, blame game, name calling, get it.
You know, name calling.
I don't know.
It wouldn't surprise me.
What's he talking about?
Kohana's office rocker.
I it wouldn't surprise me if in the
emails and the documents we literally find an
email that says, hey, when you're down here,
you know, my girlfriend can can clean your
teeth.
It wouldn't surprise me.
You make a joke about it, but.
I mean, really rich people have weird things
in their homes.
It's true.
You know what I mean?
It's like, yeah, I used to go into
one time I was in Bill Ziff's office
and upstairs in some of the famous Ziff
Davis publishing empire.
Yes.
And he he had an office in a
penthouse someplace.
What this is not the office at the
at the magazine was his house office.
This sounds like another story I have never
heard before.
Well, it's not much to it.
But all I remember is that we're having
this conversation and all of a sudden his
hair cutter comes in.
Yeah.
And I'm just chatting with him.
And next thing you know, he's got a
barber's thing around his neck and the guy's
trimming his hair in front of me.
I remember once being at this really well.
This was when I was very young, doing
the pirate radio stuff.
And I had to go to one of
our big sponsors.
And this was clearly some kind of drug
gangster, some narco gangster.
He had this huge house in Amsterdam.
It consisted of half of a canal block.
And, you know, and I think I had
to pick up some videotapes.
I don't remember exactly what it was.
He had Western House and Western House.
Then I forget the other name.
He had like stores, boutique stores, probably all
money laundering.
And all of a sudden I see a
member of parliament on a 10-speed bike
just driving through the house.
You know, it's like that kind of stuff
is normal for these jimokes.
So, you know, in spandex.
Was he wearing clothes?
He had one of those spandex riding outfits
on.
I'm like, what are you doing?
Yeah, just riding around.
Okay.
Anyway, we have to with this, this dental
chair.
This is it, people.
I also would have wished that Virginia was
alive today.
I would have asked her all about that
dentist chair and what that meant and what
that was.
Because to me, there's something sadistic about it.
It's kind of crazy.
I mean, it's bizarre to have a dentist
chair in somebody's private.
I mean, seriously, this is one of the
easiest things to look up.
The dentist, there's something dark about it.
Wait, hold on a second.
Hold on a second.
I have to stick up for my dental
professionals here.
Hold on a second.
Sorry to have a dentist chair in somebody's
private.
Also, just no one wants to go to
the dentist.
There's something dark about it.
No, I love going to the dentist.
That's, you know, I just want to say
something for our dental professionals.
You guys really get the short end of
the stick.
I love getting my teeth cleaned.
I love hanging out there.
I love the dentist.
I love it.
Hanging out, hang out at the dentist.
Hey, what are you doing this afternoon?
I'm going to go over to the dental
office and hang out because it's so much
fun.
I'm serious, though.
I was like, what are you doing?
What's that instrument for?
How does that thing work?
You know, once you once you should have
become a dentist.
I think this is what we're doing.
You're trying to you're trying.
This is a cry for help.
It is.
Help me to become a dentist.
It's my late age.
Can I make the switch?
Can I still do it?
Podcast a dentist.
There's a leeriness to it all.
There is.
It's almost like you're walking through a crime
scene.
I mean, what kind of word is leeriness?
There's a leeriness to it.
That's an interesting question.
What do you think?
Is that a word?
Is that a word?
Leeriness?
Well, should we ask the robot to make
sure?
Yeah, ask the robot.
Hey, robot, what tell me about the word
leeriness.
Is that a real word?
Leeriness is a real word.
It means awareness, caution or a state of
being leery.
Like if you're suspicious about something and not
quite trusting.
All right, I guess it's in there.
I was wrong.
Yeah, well, of course, we have to trust
AI.
I mean, our overlord is never wrong.
Never.
The masks on the wall.
There's a leeriness to it all.
There's it.
There is.
It's almost like you're walking through a crime
scene.
I mean, you are walking through a crime
scene.
I saw the pictures.
I saw the pictures.
It does not look like a crime scene.
It looks like a real estate portfolio is
what it looks like.
Well, OK.
Dressing it up a bit here.
A crime scene.
I mean, you are walking through a crime
scene.
When I see the rooms, they're kind of
hotel type rooms.
Could it be for anybody?
Scary!
It has just darker.
Yeah, I mean, there's kind of no personality
other than sort of creepiness to these things.
Otherwise, there is this sort of.
I'd love to see Vanderbilt's home.
Anonymity to it of sort of anonymous hotel
rooms somewhere in the Caribbean.
Exactly.
You could even see from the picture of
the cameras.
I mean, there are cameras everywhere.
They're being recorded.
You could say for security, but also.
Survivors that they believe that they were always
being recorded there.
Even the statues are weird, like the one
by the pool.
And I think it's important for us to
have this documentary evidence.
Especially when you have the president of the
United States saying this is a hoax.
There's a stall.
This is going nowhere.
It's nine more seconds.
They're yak, yak, yak, yaking about nothing.
Folks, seeing is believing.
See the place where he lived.
And this isn't all just a wealth porn.
This is a very perverted.
Drop cliches on it.
I'm dumping this one.
Hey, picture's worth a thousand words.
That's right.
Seeing is believing.
That's right.
Oh, man.
That's good.
It gives everybody something to talk about.
That's always fun.
I mean, what is the point of the
Democrats releasing these photos?
What is the actual point?
Is it to drive everyone's attention back?
I mean, it doesn't make a lot of
sense midterm wise, which everything should be about.
Everything.
You know?
So yeah, I think you're right.
There's everything should be about the midterms.
And they somehow think they're going to.
I don't know what they're thinking, but they
seem to think there's a benefit to this.
They're really a lost cause.
These guys.
I think they will take the midterms, but
it's a kind of baffling that they can
even get anybody to vote for him.
I mean, everything.
Although this double tap war crime.
This is my favorite.
This is the best story ever.
But the American military has done atrocious things
for our freedom, for their democracy all over
the world.
But now we're blowing up some drug boats
and everyone loses their ever loving mind.
And I think that Matt Taibbi and Walter.
Kern.
Thank you.
Walter Kern are correct that there's probably money
on those boats, too.
Although we don't see it like, you know,
like fluttering dollars.
That would be kind of cool if you
saw that.
But this thing seems like a lot of
people are very, very worried.
I don't believe that.
I disagree.
You know, why would there be money on
the boat?
You exchange the drugs for the money.
You don't carry the money on the boat
with the drugs.
And then you put the money straight into
the bank in the Caribbean.
Yeah.
And, you know, we discussed when the 2008.
Great.
The what was it?
What they call it?
The Great Recession.
The Great Recession.
If we didn't have drug money flowing, the
whole world would have crumbled.
The drug money flow is so important.
In fact, we have a this is how
far I'll go with this.
We have I think they're talking about a
liquidity crisis on Wall Street.
I think that means there's not enough money.
And there's all kinds of reasons for it.
We had a government shutdown.
But could it also be that all this
money is all the value is being blown
up in the ocean and that, oh, man,
we don't have any money coming in?
Do you think that's possible that it's that
much?
Because I do.
Well, I don't know about that because it's
coming in from every which way and all
over the place.
It's only accounting for some of it, maybe
10 percent at the most.
I don't know.
Trump says it's 90 percent.
Well, Trump's Trump exaggerating.
Let me write this one down.
Let's listen.
You released video of that first boat strike
on September 2nd, but not the second video.
Will you release video of that strike so
that the American people can see for themselves?
I don't know what they have, but whatever
they have, we certainly released.
No problem.
We need to start saying that we want
to know about the dentist chair because the
American people have a right to know about
the dentist chair.
The American people who pay their taxes have
an absolute right.
I am a journalist.
We stopped every boat.
We knock out.
We save 25,000 American lives.
I think we've now saved or created 300
million people with the amount of boats we've
blown out of the water.
But OK, but 20 boats now or more.
So that's fine.
20 times.
So it's half a million.
Am I saying that right?
Yeah.
Half a half a million lives have been
saved or created.
Mr. President, good work.
And if you look at our if you
look at our numbers, the drugs coming in
through C are down 91 percent.
I'm surprised it's 9 percent.
Do you know who's doing the 9 percent?
But it's down 91.
And we're going to start very soon on
land.
And I'm sure you're thrilled to hear.
If it is found that survivors were actually
killed while clinging on to that boat, should
Secretary have said Admiral Bradley or others be
punished?
I think you're going to find that this
is war, that these people were killing our
people by the millions.
Actually, if you look over a few years,
I think last year we lost close to
300000 people were killed.
That's not mentioning all the families.
Have you seen what happens with the families
of not only people killed, but people that
are trying to get their son or their
daughter off of this poison that they've been
fed?
I think you're going to find that there's
a very receptive ear to doing exactly what
they're doing, taking out those boats.
And very soon we're going to start doing
it on land, too, because we know every
route.
We know every house.
We know where they manufacture this crap.
We know where they put it all together.
And I think you're going to see it
very soon on land also.
Ah, now I see.
How about he's going to take out these
drug manufacturing operations with airstrikes, not boots on
the ground, but airstrikes?
Yeah, that's what it sounds like to me.
We know what's going to happen.
And by the way, according to Zero Hedge,
and they would know, cocaine inflation erupts in
Europe after U.S. strikes the Caribbean drug
boats.
Just backing the two of us up.
Yep.
30 to 45 percent per kilo more expensive.
By the way, so I knew a couple
of drug dealers in Amsterdam, marijuana drug dealers.
I don't think they did cocaine.
They might have done pills as well, ecstasy,
but nice people.
You know, they would smuggle the stuff into
the country in flight cases for musical gear,
speaker cases, all kinds of stuff.
And they had, and everyone was paid off.
I don't know that for sure, but obviously.
And those people alone were multimillionaires.
They had millions of dollars.
They had houses all over the world.
And they were one step above retail.
So just think about what's going back to
the cartels and the manufacturers.
It's got to be a multiple of that.
It's got to be hundreds of billions, hundreds
of billions.
So I think it does make a difference.
By the way, he got a boots on
the ground from the Netherlands.
And he's a documentary filmmaker.
And he was part of making a series
about the Dutch Navy and Coast Guard in
the Caribbean for National Geographic.
And so this is older.
It was about protecting the waters around the
Dutch Antilles.
Different subjects in an episode, of course, but
also a lot of drug traffic operations.
From the footage provided to us by the
Coast Guard in the interviews we made, I
can tell you that the Dutch, working with
the US, have had operations in this region
for probably a decade or longer, decades, sometimes
with extreme measures like taking out drug boats
with force.
Unfortunately, we weren't allowed to show the blowing
up or machine gunning of drug boats in
the series due to the sensitive nature of
the subject in the Netherlands.
Yeah, no kidding.
It's our dough.
What we did show is that the boats
get chased down by fast boats or choppers.
They get at least four warnings over the
portafone.
Most give up and get boarded and arrested.
If they don't stop to get boarded, they
get their engines shot by marksmen from the
chopper.
If this doesn't work or they fight back,
they get machine gunned or blown up.
Says this has been going on forever, but
now all of a sudden this is a
huge issue.
Yeah.
Midterms.
We have the best producers in the universe.
The best, hands down.
Well, that's what happens.
You accumulate.
Yes.
So let me see.
We have...
So that's a good story.
What's interesting about this is this little ditty,
which got some play.
The 57-year-old former president of Honduras
was found guilty in a U.S. federal
court of working with drug cartels conspiring to
distribute more than 400 tons of cocaine toward
the United States.
He was found to have taken millions of
dollars in bribes, and prosecutors said he bragged
about all of it.
Hernandez declared that he wanted, and I quote,
to stuff the drugs right up the noses
of the gringos.
Witnesses at trial said Juan Orlando Hernandez used
Honduran military units to escort drug shipments.
A federal jury in New York took only
about nine hours to deliberate and convict him
on importation and weapons charges.
He was sentenced to 45 years in federal
prison.
But all of that changed this week when
he was pardoned by President Trump.
I feel very good about it.
If you have some drug dealers in your
country and you're the president, you don't necessarily
put the president in jail for 45 years.
President Trump called Hernandez's trial last year a
witch hunt by the Biden administration, although there
were no allegations of prosecutorial misconduct.
It was a case that the Justice Department
had built over a number of years against
Juan Orlando that dated back to the trial
of his brother, Tony.
Hernandez's brother, Tony, was tried and convicted for
charges related to drug trafficking by the first
Trump administration in 2019.
Democrats and some Republicans in Congress are slamming
the pardon.
Republican Senator Rand Paul said it flies in
the face of the Trump administration's escalating campaign
against drug cartels in the region.
So if you look up the history of
this, and of course, everyone's flummoxed, how can
he be blowing up drug boats but letting
this guy go free?
First of all, his brother, Tony, he was
the drug dealer.
And it seems to me, just before you
continue, based on just what was in that
report, that Tony was the bad guy.
This guy was an innocent, basically, you know,
a brother, but he's an innocent bystander for
all practical purposes.
And the Trump administration must have known that
back in the first administration.
And then the guy got caught up and
thrown in the slammer.
But the Trump people already knew that he
was not a guilty guy.
Yes.
And like eight years ago, five years ago.
But he was thrown in the slammer in
2024.
So his brother went to jail in 19
during Trump administration.
In fact, as President Hernandez positioned himself as
a key U.S. ally in the war
on drugs, which, of course, is a joke.
But he oversaw the extradition of over two
dozen high profile drug traffickers to the United
States, including figures linked to major cartels.
This included cooperation with U.S. agencies like
DEA, which would have given him access to
intelligence on cartel structures, routes and the leaders
in Honduras, a critical trans Honduras, a critical
transit hub for cocaine from South America to
the U.S. I'm thinking this guy has
some valuable information.
And this will make a lot of a
lot of financial people very nervous if he
actually knows not just how the how the
drugs flow, but he knows how the money
flows.
This could be a very interesting guy to
talk to.
And all he really got convicted of was,
you know, supposedly one million dollar campaign or
bribe, they call it a campaign contribution, but
was categorized as a bribe from El Chapo.
And the rest was just witnesses who just
said, no, no, no, that guy's guilty.
He's no good.
Yeah, this is another thing, but I don't
want to go off track because I have
this three by three to do, but I
want to play this.
Trump's been pardoning doing weird pardons.
And he does it in, you know, in
kind of a linear fashion.
He doesn't wait till the end of his
administration and then pardon a million people.
And he pardoned this Cuellar guy who was
the Democrat from Texas, Democrat.
Yeah, Democrat, yeah.
Who was who was arrested.
Can I stop you for a second?
Do I have all your clips?
I don't have a three by three.
Do I have all your clips?
You better.
No, I mean, I got your clips this
morning was but I don't see that in
there.
Cuellar guy.
Let me check.
Let me double check, man.
This is no good.
Maybe I should go resend the clips.
Uh, I will.
It's possible.
No, I don't.
I mean, I have only 20 clips.
I got more than that on here.
Yeah, well, that was not in your email.
This is we have a production issue.
Yes.
Do you want to send me those real
quick?
We're going to have to stop tape.
OK, tape has been restarted.
We're back.
I'm glad that people have to understand that
in preparation for this show, there is no
collusion at all.
Any collusion?
There's no conversations.
We don't talk about anything.
I show up, you show up, you send
me clips.
I don't look at the clips.
I don't listen to the clips because I
want to be just as surprised and delighted
as everybody else.
So what were you looking?
What were you looking for?
The Cuellar Cuellar.
Yes.
Oh, the pardon.
The pardon.
OK, Cuellar.
And how do you spell Cuellar?
C-U-E.
Oh, like cellular.
I got it.
President Trump pardoning Texas Representative Henry Cuellar and
his wife Imelda.
Cuellar was indicted last year on more than
a dozen federal charges and the president declaring
a historic reset of fuel economy standards.
We now go live to our Washington correspondent
Mari Otsu at the North Lawn of the
White House.
Mari, good evening.
Tiff, good evening.
Yes, Texas Democratic Representative Henry Cuellar was an
outspoken critic of former President Joe Biden's border
policies.
And back in May 2024, he and his
wife Imelda were indicted for allegedly accepting nearly
$600,000 in bribes in exchange for influencing
U.S. foreign policy in favor of Azerbaijan
and a Mexican bank.
Cuellar and his wife have denied all of
these charges.
And President Trump today is announcing his, quote,
full and unconditional pardon of both of the
Cuellars on Truth Social, saying, quote, for years,
the Biden administration has weaponized the justice system
against their political opponents and anyone who disagreed
with them.
He also adds that one of the clearest
examples of this was when Biden used both
the FBI and the DOJ to, quote, take
out a member of his own party, referring
to Cuellar as bravely speaking out against open
borders and what President Trump calls the Biden
border catastrophe.
Take a look.
He's a respected person.
He was treated very badly because he said
that people should not be allowed to pour
into our country.
And he was right.
He didn't like open borders.
He represents the people on the border.
And he saw what was happening.
And as soon as he made that statement,
I then said, I'll bet he gets indicted.
And that's what happened.
He got indicted for speaking the truth.
And his wife got indicted, Imelda.
And that's sort of a first.
Usually, they leave the wives alone.
Now, he had a little comment at the
end that usually they like the mob.
Oh, good, good catch.
Leave the wives alone.
Well, what I caught in there is some
Mexican bank.
When I hear that, I'm like, uh-huh.
Yeah.
What about the Mexican bank?
Did he know something about some cash going
into the Mexican bank?
I have no idea what the deal is
with the Mexican bank.
But I heard that, too.
The Mexican bank and then Azerbaijan.
I mean, he took a big bribe for
them.
What?
What is that?
What?
Yeah.
So they got the COP 30 or something.
I don't know.
Yeah.
This, all of this feels so North Sea
Nexus to me.
Just feels like it.
You know, especially with Hernandez.
You know, maybe we may be getting some
interesting information.
Well, back to the drug boats.
Let's play the three by three because it
concerns Hegseth.
All right.
That's right.
We have a three by three from the
big three, ABC, CBS, NBC.
And it's about the bullcrap.
And where do you want to start?
Who has to start with ABC?
Here we go.
Tonight, under mounting pressure, Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth
insisting the decision to launch a second strike
against a suspected drug boat in September was
not his call, but that of the mission's
commander, Admiral Mitch Bradley.
Sunk the boat and eliminated the threat.
And he was the right call.
We have his back.
The day after the attack, Hegseth said he
had watched in real time.
I watched it live.
We knew exactly who was in that boat.
We knew exactly what they were doing.
But today, Hegseth said he left before the
second strike.
I watched that first strike live.
As you can imagine, the Department of War,
we got a lot of things to do.
So I didn't stick around for the hour
and two hours, whatever, all the sensitive site
exploitation digitally occurs.
So I moved on to my next meeting.
Hegseth was asked if he saw survivors.
I did not personally see survivors, but I
stand because the thing was on fire.
It was exploded and fire and smoke.
You can't see anything.
You got digital.
This is called the fog of war.
The secretary claims he didn't hear about the
second strike until an hour or so later.
Over the weekend, President Trump said he hadn't
known about the second strike and wouldn't have
wanted it.
We'll look into it.
But no, I wouldn't have wanted that.
Not a second strike.
The first strike was very lethal.
It was fine.
And if there were two people around, but
Pete said that didn't happen.
And today, sitting next to his secretary, the
president said he was still somewhat in the
dark.
I still haven't gotten a lot of information
because I rely on Pete.
But to me, it was an attack.
It wasn't one strike, two strikes, three strikes.
Somebody asked me a question about the second
strike.
I didn't know about the second strike.
I didn't know anything about people.
I wasn't involved in it.
I knew they took out a boat.
You know, this is all, all this noise
is made by the, is it the appropriations?
What's the war committee?
The war committee?
Yeah, who are the people of oversight over
the military?
The Armed Forces Committee?
No, I don't think, I don't think it's
called that.
I still think this is somehow related to
fraud that's going to be uncovered in Ukraine.
I'm sorry, what?
Fraud that will be uncovered in Ukraine.
Oh, fraud.
It was going to be, they had a
huge case.
He's lost a bunch of people.
Well, no, but I think, I think we
may see some of this tie back to
kickbacks.
This was a lot of money.
Remember all of them were saying, hey, man,
it's okay because this money comes back to
America, comes back to our company, to our
military companies.
A lot of it gets stolen.
Well, or kickbacks.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
It's corrupt.
Ukraine, hello.
No, but our own.
It's always considered the most corrupt, but I
don't see it having anything to do with
this.
Okay.
They do not like, they do not like
Hegseth.
They don't like Hegseth that's sitting there, that's
for sure.
No, they don't like Hegseth, that's for sure.
One day after the White House confirmed there
was a second strike on a suspected Venezuelan
drug boat.
President Trump today said he did not know
about it.
I should not have gotten a lot of
information because I rely on Pete, but to
me it was an attack.
The legality of the September 2nd attack is
in question.
After the Washington Post reported Defense Secretary Pete
Hegseth allegedly issued an order to kill everybody.
And that Navy Admiral Mitch Bradley apparently ordered
the second strike to take out two survivors,
fulfilling Hegseth's directive, which many legal experts describe
as a war crime.
Hegseth said he only saw the first strike.
A couple of hours later, I learned that
that commander had made the, which he had
the complete authority to do.
And by the way, Admiral Bradley made the
correct decision to ultimately sink the boat and
eliminate the threat.
Trump also pointed to Admiral Bradley.
I hear the gentleman that was in charge
of that is extraordinary, extraordinary person.
But the DOD's law of war manual states
that shipwrecked combatants are in a helpless state
and it would be dishonorable and inhumane to
make them the object of an attack.
I did not personally see survivors, but I
stand because the thing was on fire.
It was exploded and fire smoke.
You can't see the digital.
This is called the fog of war.
At the cabinet meeting, the president also talked
about his new efforts to pause migration and
singled out Minnesota Congresswoman Ilhan Omar, who came
to the U.S. as a Somali refugee.
Omar is garbage.
She's garbage.
Her friends are garbage.
These are people that work.
They complain and do nothing but bitch.
We don't want them in our country.
Why did they even throw that into the
report?
I'm not sure.
I do have some stuff on that later.
I just wanted to point out one thing
that on December 2nd, just because Hegseth, you
know, he set up new procurement rules.
They were going to be looking at different
ways of qualifying contractors.
And the Missile Defense Agency announced on the
2nd, the 1014 qualifying offers for, here it
comes, the Scalable Homeland Innovation Enterprise Layered Defense
Program, which is an acronym for S.H
.I.E.L.D. It's for the Iron
Dome, for the Golden Dome.
Golden Dome.
That is worth up to 151 billion dollars.
And it went to many small companies.
So if there's a reason for the system
to hate Hegseth, this is a good way
to put the spotlight on him and try
and get him out.
Especially when he says dumb stuff like, it
was the fog of war, man.
Yeah, I found that to be stupid.
That's dumb.
That's dumb.
But he's not, you know, he's a, he's
not well liked by some people.
Oh.
Because he's slightly arrogant.
He's got a kind of arrogance I can
see would drive some people nuts.
He's a pretty boy.
This other guy, this admiral who was in
charge of this operation, they keep saying Hegseth
threw him under the bus.
Hegseth did no such thing.
But he says the guy's great.
He did what he's supposed to do.
We know we need some PBS clips because
they're always sponsored by Northrop Grumman.
So we need to hear what they're saying
about him.
I don't have the PBS.
This is Steve's project.
I know.
I know.
Steve is good about this.
He needs to add the PBS.
Tonight, President Trump defending striking a boat, allegedly
carrying drugs to the U.S. twice.
Allegedly.
Allegedly.
I want those boats taken out.
And if we have to, we'll attack on
land also, just like we attack on sea.
And there's very little coming in by sea.
I think we've knocked out over 90%
of it.
Two people initially survived.
And the administration says the decision for a
second strike, killing all on board, was made
by Admiral Frank Bradley.
Today, Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth said even though
he watched the first part of the attack
live, he'd moved on to his next meeting
before the second strike.
Admiral Bradley made the correct decision to ultimately
sink the boat and eliminate the threat.
We have his back and the American people
are safer because narco-terrorists know you can't
bring drugs through the water.
So you didn't see any survivors, to be
clear, after that first strike?
I did not personally see survivors, but I
stand.
Because the thing was on fire.
It was exploded in fire and smoke.
You can't see anything.
This is called the fog of war.
It comes as the administration ramps up its
crackdown on illegal immigration.
A senior law enforcement official tells NBC News
ICE is planning an operation this week.
Oh, hold on a second.
So now I see what CBS did is
what NBC is doing as well.
They're somehow tying in drug boats and killing
people to immigration and ICE.
It's almost like a mind trick.
Think about killing people, boats, borders, stuff, brown
people.
Oh, yeah, Somalis.
Exploded in fire and smoke.
Pirates.
You can't see anything.
This is called the fog of war.
It comes as the administration ramps up its
crackdown on illegal immigration.
A senior law enforcement official tells NBC News
ICE is planning an operation this week in
the Minneapolis-St. Paul area.
There's a large Somali population.
You told me to look into Minnesota and
their fraud on visas and their programs.
50 percent of them are fraudulent.
Federal prosecutors have charged dozens of people in
Minnesota's Somali community for allegedly stealing hundreds of
millions of dollars in taxpayer money meant for
social service programs.
This beautiful place.
And I see these people ripping it off
their country's stakes.
And we don't want them in our country.
But when they come from hell and they
complain and do nothing but bitch.
We don't want them in our country.
Let them go back to where they came
from and fix it.
Now, there's an important nuance in what's happening
here.
This is a good catch.
Well, yeah.
Associative news coverage is what it amounts to.
And they both associate one with the other.
Yes.
Two separate stories.
Let's drag them together and make Trump look
bad.
There's an important nuance in the Somali business,
which, surprisingly, ABC tagged in this report.
This morning, ICE preparing to ramp up enforcement
operations in Minnesota as President Trump lashes out
at immigrants from Somalia, saying we don't want
them in our country, and continues to attack
Democratic Congresswoman Ilhan Omar.
We're going to go the wrong way if
we keep taking in garbage into our country.
Ilhan Omar is garbage.
She's garbage.
Her friends are garbage.
These are people that work.
These are people that say, let's go.
Come on, let's make this place great.
These are people that do nothing but complain.
They complain.
And from where they came from, they got
nothing.
You know, they came from paradise.
And they said, this isn't paradise.
But when they come from hell and they
complain and do nothing but bitch, we don't
want them in our country.
Minnesota is home to the nation's largest Somali
population.
Multiple law enforcement officials tell ABC News that
ICE is preparing for a surge operation in
the state, focusing on St. Paul and Minneapolis
as early as this week.
The city's mayor says police won't help ICE
when they arrive.
Targeting Somali people means that due process will
be violated.
Mistakes will be made.
And let's be clear, it means that American
citizens will be detained for no other reason
than the fact that they look like they
are Somali.
The president criticizing Somalis for weeks now, terminating
temporary protected status for Somalis and writing, send
them back to where they came from.
And this morning, the Trump administration cracking down
on immigration nationwide, pausing all immigration applications for
people from 19 so-called countries of concern,
including Somalia, Afghanistan, Venezuela and Sudan.
We have to remember that the use of
temporary status has been abused by Biden and
by Obama, both to bring in cheap labor.
And what I think President Trump here is
railing against is, hey, we gave these people
temporary protective status because Somali is garbage.
It's a hellhole.
And now they're sitting here and bitching around.
Get them out.
And he says, all right, you want to
be that way?
You want to steal our money?
Because wow, Republicans and Democrats both have blown
the whistle so many times on Minnesota.
About hundreds of millions of dollars being stolen.
And did you see the Tucker Carlson interview
with a woman who says that Tim Walz
has been shoveling top secrets to the Chinese?
That's why he's taking all those trips to
China when he's in the National Guard.
Oh, no, I remember that part, but I
don't remember.
No, I did not hear this.
That's it's quite good.
Well, so somewhere the president called Tim Walz
a retard.
Oh, yeah, on Thanksgiving.
Well, I have the, I have the clip.
Oh, do you have that clip?
I want to hear the clip.
No, I have the reaction clip, which is
quite good.
Well, the one on the airplane?
No, no.
I don't know what you're talking about.
Well, I have Trump responding on the airplane.
What's your reaction clip?
I had to know.
Ah, caught you off guard, didn't I?
A little bit.
Yeah.
Well, this.
Oh, man.
It's such a funny clip, too.
Well, let me play the, this is short.
This is Trump on the plane being asked,
do you stand by calling Governor Walz retarded?
On top of that, in that same post,
you mentioned Tim Walz and you called him
what many Americans do find an offensive word,
retarded.
Do you stand by that claim of calling
Tim Walz retarded?
Yeah, I think there's something wrong with him.
Absolutely.
Sure.
Yeah.
You have a problem with it?
You know what?
I think there's something wrong with that.
Anybody that would do what he did, anybody
that would allow those people into his state
and pay billions of dollars out to Somalia.
We give billions of dollars to Somalia.
It's not even a country because it doesn't
function like a country.
It's got a name, but it doesn't function
like a country.
Yeah, there's something wrong with Walz.
This is the clip.
This is the talk.
This is good.
It's interesting.
Talk sketch Trump.
I'm not a blind Trump supporter.
I don't really trust any politicians and I
voice my discrepancies with Trump all the time.
However, calling Tim Walz a retard on Thanksgiving
Day is exactly what I voted for.
That was a funny clip from this woman
and it was stolen.
The whole gag was stolen by the redheaded
libertarian on Twitter.
She did the same gag.
Really?
I found it very, and I think it's
like, you know, this don't steal people's material.
We would never do that.
No, we just write up, take it and
give you credit.
Now, before we leave the Venezuela thing, I
do have a clip from that you would
appreciate.
This is, and I don't understand what happened.
No.
What do you mean no?
No.
No what?
It's not the real estate people.
It's the real estate guy.
Now, I'd like to know when Clayton Morris
turned on Trump.
He has this woman on who's an apologist
for Venezuela's government.
And she runs a supposedly an international news
operation.
She's the editor of this thing called Kawashun
News.
It's k-a-w-s-a-c-h
-u-n-news.com.
And it's supposed to be international.
I'm going to read the headlines from the
front page of this.
Let me guess.
Trump sucks.
The top story is James Cameron's Avatar 3D
drops stunning new trailer.
Okay.
That's the top story.
It's right at the top of what you
call the fold.
This is the woman's Camila Escalante.
And now here's the other headlines.
Experts confirm Israel's Gaza assault is genocide.
Bobby Kennedy reignites eugenics debate.
Shocking scandal exposed.
Trump musks hunt for social security fraud deemed
a sham.
And by the way, every headline's got an
exclamation point at the end.
Well, of course.
It's what you do.
Donald Trump emblem of universal decline and collapse.
GOP's agenda exposed.
How they're making your life tougher.
This high school runner slams main GOP lawmaker
for targeting trans race winner.
This looks like my YouTube feed.
Anyway, it goes on.
But it's like ridiculous.
And so here we have her on the
show.
And then Clayton goes on to a rant,
which is information that I had no idea.
Now, we need to explain to everybody that
we know Clayton and Natalie personally.
Natalie worked for me.
Yeah.
You trained her.
You showed her how to do it.
So me, I gave her some.
Yeah, I was.
No, you trained her.
No, you trained her.
I can't train.
I dressed her and got her new hair.
That was my job.
And I think I did a pretty good
job.
Got rid of this goofy glasses, which are
now back.
I'm like, he's on.
Now they're back.
Again, you know, they moved to Portugal five
years ago.
They're back in New Jersey.
They're back in New Jersey.
And look up Morris Invest and you'll learn
more about them.
Let's play the clip.
Trump seemed to have at one point thought
that this was his opportunity to do so.
But he's seeing that the optics aren't very
good and that people, including the United States
and his own party, are not or at
least supporters or voters of his party aren't
on board.
Well, you hear that you hear the mega
people like who, you know, you know, you
know, the types I'm talking about who like
lick, you know, like President Trump's feet wherever
he walks, it's the narco terrorists.
Like, that's what we're stopping.
It's the it's the Venezuelan child trafficking operation
at Newsflash.
The United States is one of the largest
purveyors of child trafficking in the world, in
the world, in the world, Guatemala, white Ukraine.
Ukraine is massive child trafficking operation.
Yet we can pick and choose like who
we defend and all of this.
It's all garbage.
We all know it's about the oil and
the Chinese help who have helped.
Of course, to try to actually refine some
of this oil, which, you know, is not
the best oil in the world when it's
pulled out of the ground, it requires quite
a bit of refining and the Chinese have
been able to help.
So the Chinese sphere of influence in Latin
America, the oil, the Chinese, the Russians sphere
of influence there.
This is exactly why the Trump administration seems
to be moving in this direction.
Sorry to just monologue there, but I just
I feel like for anyone still falling for
the drug argument, they need to get their
heads examined.
OK, I can tell you exactly when he
became a Trump hater.
I could even look up the date if
you wanted.
No, no.
What do you mean?
No, no, you don't have to look up
the date.
I've taken your word for that.
You have a date when he went on
Tucker Carlson show.
That's when it all started to flip.
And it's not because Clayton Morris has any
any political scruples or he cares about America
or no.
You think Tucker flipped him?
No, what flipped him was, hey, if I
do the stuff Tucker's doing, we'll be more
successful.
He is a prime.
Those two, Natalie and Clayton, prime examples of
audience capture.
Because I know we know what we get
when we just say, no, we don't think
that this is how it works.
We don't think that Israel controls America.
Oh, everyone's hair's on fire.
You should enjoy your shackles.
Shackles.
Tina said the other day, where is the
Jew money?
I know it's one far between bucks a
month.
Those are populist audience capture people.
And by the way, that's a lot of
them.
They think there's a movement.
It's America first.
You know, it's different from MAGA.
And Trump is all about foreign wars.
And we have the blue hat.
I have friends who think this, but he's
just an ob.
He's just David Icke.
He's just completing the great reset.
Man, you guys should pay attention.
Three more years of this.
You're never going to see it again.
Ever, ever, ever.
I've said it before.
Pay very close attention to what's really happening.
But no, it's all about oil.
No, it truly is about America first.
And even saying that, you guys used to
be in kind of in the middle.
Now you're on everything Trump says.
And Trump is good, man.
No, no, we just call what we see.
I like the way you always have a
puke sound at the end of these people's
little diatribes.
This voice you do.
You always have that.
That's always thrown in.
It's the truth.
It's how I hear it.
And I'm just like, why?
I mean, but here's the thing about that
little diatribe he did.
What's he talking about that the United States
is the number one child trafficking country in
the world?
That may actually be true.
In what way?
Purveyor, that more kids are trafficked to the
United States than any other country.
That's not the way he presents it.
He says it's us doing it.
Yes, he didn't say it right.
But I think what he means is that
more children are trafficked into the United States
than out of the other country.
And we have a big country.
I don't think China has numbers.
Also, I think China has enough children of
their own to do stuff with.
That sounded bad.
But anyway.
So but these are typical audience capture.
Oh, I mean, just go back and look
at him with expert.
Oh, we've got an expert marksman.
He was in the military, and he's going
to explain the magic bullet that hit Charlie
Kirk.
Oh, yeah, this is how it happened.
That went by the wayside.
It's all gone away.
And the leader of this ring is Candace
Owens.
And actually, she tweeted something that I.
So wait, you think Candace Owens has more
influence than Nick Fuentes?
Oh, yeah.
Because Nick Fuentes has got the blue hat
that says America first on it.
Yeah, but but Candace Owens has.
There she's I think what's happening here.
Let me read what she posted yesterday.
Should I do the Candace voice?
I received information last night that put the
final pieces together for me.
Okay.
I got receipts.
I now can say with full confidence that
I believe Charlie Kirk was betrayed by the
leadership of Turning Point USA and some of
the very people who eulogized him on stage.
Yes, I will be naming names and providing
evidence for my claims.
And I am making a personal plea to
every well-meaning person who donated to this
godforsaken organization to request a refund.
You are lied to and leadership knew.
So this was responded to by.
Because Turning Point USA has been very quiet
for months.
Well, Candio has been on this this long
rant.
And Blake Neif, the producer of the Charlie
Kirk show, responded.
I can play some of that in a
minute.
But at the end of his his long
response at the top of yesterday's show, he
said, we're going to do a live stream.
And it's set.
He actually posted this on X.
The live stream we announced on the show
Wednesday has been set 4 p.m. Eastern,
2 p.m. local time because it's Phoenix,
Monday, December 15th.
A collection of Charlie's friends will respond to
statements made by at real Candice.
Oh, to set the record straight once and
for all.
Prior to the opening of America Fest, we'll
be streaming live from Charlie's Phoenix studio.
Our offer from yesterday holds.
If Candice wishes to join us in person
in Phoenix, she is welcome to do so.
She can let us know by the end
of the day.
And then Candice replies.
This is all playing out on X.
This is fabulous.
Kind of kind of weird how you didn't
email or call me to ask about times
or availability and chose to and said, tweet
this confirmation out at midnight.
Why am I learning about this on X?
December 15th does not work in person.
And 2 p.m. is also literal time.
I do my podcast live every day, which
you knew we will happily cancel the daily
podcast and will join you guys virtually instead
of the live stream on the 15th.
If that works on your end.
So I have to say that it's what
she of all the things she's claimed, and
I'd love to play a little bit of
that.
The producer guy's claims, because it's pretty funny.
Of all the things she's claimed, it is
very possible that in an organization like Turning
Point USA, forget the hundred million dollars a
year, the political power of that organization is
worth maybe billions or hundreds of billions.
Very at the time, at the time of
electing President Trump, what Turning Point USA did,
and they really turned out.
I think a lot of the late teen,
early 20s voters, I think there was that
did make a difference.
But in general, just the clout of Turning
Point USA, I can completely see one individual
or more people within the organization going.
Hey, man, Charlie's screwing things up because you
can't go against Israel with an election with
a campaign apparatus.
That's not going to work.
I can see that happening.
I can see people who had saw all
this political clout, this power.
There's all kinds of people that were hanging
around the organization.
I'm going to say that's the most reasonable
things that she said in a long time.
Of course, it could also just be that
she is doing this with an already destabilized
Turning Point USA to kill it.
She could be an op for someone who
is against Trump.
I mean, she certainly seems against Trump.
So anything is possible.
But that's finally something she said there that
made sense.
I'll just let this run until we're tired
of it.
This guy runs down all of the nutty
things Candio has said in the past few
months.
And I've heard, I think, every single one
of them.
So he's not exaggerating.
We wanted to use this segment at the
top of this hour to say something important,
something very important.
For the past two and a half months,
there is a topic that has flooded our
freedom inbox.
It has been nonstop on social media, but
which we have almost totally avoided on this
show.
You probably already know what I'm talking about.
Wait, wait, wait.
Who is this?
This is the producer of the Charlie Kirk
show because the show continues.
They just have guest hosts come in.
Yeah, okay.
How ubiquitous it has been.
Ever since Charlie's murder, Candice Owens has leveled
a flood of allegations against people at Turning
Point USA, people at Turning Point Action, and
people who work for this show.
She's made them against some of Charlie's closest
friends and against some of his most dedicated
employees.
She has suggested that Michael McCoy, Charlie's chief
of staff, knew Charlie would be murdered, was
happy that he died, and stayed silent because
he was told he would be the next
Charlie.
She has suggested that Michael is not his
real name.
It is, I have seen his birth certificate
myself.
She has called it suspicious that Mikey's wife,
who works at Turning Point, helped plan the
campus tour event where Charlie was murdered, which
she didn't, by the way, she doesn't work
on campus events.
Candice has suggested the Utah Valley University event
was unusual and its details suggested a inside
job.
She has claimed that foreign aircraft have followed
Erica Kirk around the country, and that Turning
Point has lied about this happening.
She has accused us of lying about Charlie
wanting Erica to take over for him if
he died.
She has suggested Charlie's security team intentionally denied
him first aid after the shooting to ensure
that he died.
She has raised suspicions about the head of
our technical team because he took an SD
card out of a camera.
She has spread absurd claims that Tyler Boyer,
who we just had on the show, sexually
abuses male interns.
She has suggested that TPUSA Faith-affiliated pastors
like theologian Frank Turek, who we'll have on
in a moment, and Pastor Rob McCoy are
part of a military, quote, infiltration of Turning
Point, either because they are veterans or because
they have family members who are.
Even if not everyone has been named specifically
though, Candice has effectively tarred everyone here with
complicity in Charlie's death by repeatedly saying-
So he goes on for seven minutes.
I'll put it in the show notes.
So she goes on- It's entertaining.
Oh, it's very entertaining.
But we have to remember one thing.
Her husband, what would you say he is?
Oh, I forgot.
He's a white guy who's, he's part of
your favorite group, the Nexus from, he's a
UK, he's a Lord or something like that.
His dad is a Lord.
His dad's a Lord, right.
And when you saw Candice's husband, the first
thing you said was he's gay.
That's the first thing you said.
Then that guy is nowhere- Are you
accusing me of saying that the first thing
I said when, as soon as I saw
that guy, I said that guy's gay?
Yes, I'm not accusing you.
You're accusing me.
It happened on this show.
But, you know, British guy and- He
looks gay.
And he's involved in banking with the Dutch
banks.
He has so much British stuff going on
here.
Yeah, he's British.
That does not, well, but from a lordship,
you know, from peerage.
Yeah, peerage British.
He's part of the system.
Yes.
So this guy- Yeah, the royal system
that's all over the world, even though you
like to isolate it.
Yeah.
You want to hear more of this guy's
accusation?
Oh, a couple, just a little bit.
A little bit more?
He was, quote, betrayed by, quote, everyone.
She has said Charlie's murder, quote, had to
be approved by Charlie's friends and then suggested
those friends might have her murdered too for,
quote, knowing the truth.
She's made claims of financial impropriety and fraud
at turning point, adding up into the millions
of dollars, which again is not true.
Charlie made sure the organization was audited by
a third party every year.
He personally reviewed and he signed off on
every expense report and- It goes on.
But remember, she said Israel had killed him
and, you know, and she's still on the
hit list from the Macron's.
Oh, yeah, she's on the hit list.
Yeah, I mean- Because Macron and I
forgot who's ganged up.
They're going to- So, you know, like,
again, I think turning point is done.
I mean, whether they realize it or not,
but Charlie Kirk was turning point USA.
No Charlie Kirk.
No, he's the charismatic leader, that high order
charismatic.
This is not a slouch.
No.
This is a high order charismatic leader that
was running the thing and keeping it together
just because of his, you know, this is
aura to do it.
He could manage to do it.
This is like one of those guys like
Elon Musk is a little bit like this.
And he gets people to do stuff.
And OK, I'd rather work for him than,
you know, anything else.
And once he's gone, which is the idea,
it's called, you know, taking out the head
of the snake and it's over.
And yeah, it could linger.
It could become something else.
But it's not going to be what it
was, where it was headed.
No.
So whatever's going on, if somehow it turns
out, I mean, she could be right.
She could be right.
She says she's got names.
She's got evidence.
She's got proof.
OK.
I mean, I've been waiting.
She's got receipts.
I mean, ours is receipts.
When did that crop up, by the way?
Everybody, I've got receipts.
That's for your taxes.
What do you mean you get receipts?
That's been going on for a while.
That's but she kind of revived it.
I've got the receipts.
Yeah, that's been a thing for a while.
You know, people say that no agenda show
current of work.
They got the receipts, which I think means
clips.
I'm not sure.
We got plenty of clips.
We got clips, man.
We got clips.
But it's it's I do not deem it
impossible, although how she got from Egyptian Air
Force dropping off a hitman to to Turning
Point USA being responsible, that that makes no
sense.
Sometimes you got to.
She takes a shotgun approach or scattergun, we
could call it.
Yeah, she just well, she has the CIA,
the Candace Intelligence Agency.
You know, it's her version of boots on
the ground, except I think hers are nut
jobs.
And I look what I found.
Oh, yes, is good.
Where we have people.
Hey, I did a documentary.
You have jobs, too, but we just don't
read their stuff.
No, we read the good ones.
We got lots of good ones.
Well, when the nut jobs are funny.
Yeah.
Well, obviously.
But it's very possible that that there was
a coup from inside Turning Point USA.
Now, it doesn't explain a lot of things.
And, of course, ever since covid, why would
we trust our government?
Nobody trusts the government anyway in any country.
Anyone who's smart.
It's like, no, you lied.
We don't trust you anymore.
But but people say there's been no autopsy.
All of this comes out in court.
That it's you don't release this kind of
it's called.
Witness tampering.
Even I think at some point it pollutes
it pollutes the the public.
If you put information out before the trial,
the jury pool.
Yeah.
And so that's why it will all come
out.
And there is an autopsy report.
And, you know, how come we don't know
where he was buried?
Well, I was like, oh, it's almost like
Mangione.
We're just now just now.
How long ago was the Mangione thing?
A year ago.
Just now it's coming to trial and things
are coming out.
I have a 30 second update just as
an intermezzo.
Well, the man charged with murdering United Healthcare
CEO on the streets of Manhattan was back
in a New York City courtroom today for
a second day.
Twenty seven year old Luigi Mangione is charged
with killing Brian Thompson last December.
The former Penn Grads lawyers are trying to
get evidence against him thrown out.
That includes items found in Mangione's backpack when
he was arrested at a McDonald's in Altoona,
Pennsylvania.
They also want the 911 call that led
to his capture tossed.
Mangione has pleaded not guilty.
Not guilty plea.
That is interesting.
I didn't do it.
Not guilty.
And then that just.
So I look at my timeline and my
notifications on X, I see like something really
nice happened and was kind of a local
story to Austin, at least.
Something really nice happened.
And then I'll tell you what people had
to say about it.
The couple that founded Dell Technologies, Michael and
Susan Dell, have announced a six billion dollar
donation toward new investment accounts for children proposed
by the Trump administration.
The Invest America accounts will launch next year.
The Treasury Department says it'll put $1,000
in the accounts of at least 25 million
children.
The money donated by the Dells will be
for kids 10 years and younger.
They'll be eligible to receive $250 each.
The Dells say they're investing in children because
they are our future.
So it's a total of six and a
half billion dollars.
And it's kind of a cool idea, these
America investment accounts, which, you know, I think
the president calls them Trump accounts, but it's
really called invest invest in America accounts.
So the Dells, they say, you know, we're
going to put in $250 per child, 10
years younger, 25 million children.
It'll cost us six and a half billion
minimum, they said, at least.
And they said, hey, rich people, you should
do the same.
And all anybody could talk about is Dell's
wife.
That's got to be a dude.
That's a dude.
That's a dude.
What's up with that?
What's up with her eyes?
It's like that to me is astounding.
No one talks about the money.
It's just she looks like a dude.
Have you ever met Michael Dell's wife, Susan?
No, I never have.
And I know Michael, but I never met
his wife.
But she, if you look at her pictures,
she had an eye operation.
She had an eye job.
And I don't know if she used a
Texas person or who it was.
Cattle rancher.
A cattle rancher.
But if you look at older pictures of
her when she was a brunette, especially, she
was a skinny, she's thin.
And her eyes are kind of closed.
They were kind of like, they were not
a bug eyed look.
She had normal looking eyes of a kind
of, you know, they were normal looking.
If you looked at her, you said, that's
normal looking.
She didn't have the big, beautiful eyes or
that sort of thing.
And I guess she wanted the big, beautiful
eyes.
And so somebody did an operation on her
and they bugged her eyes out.
She looks like a freak.
I feel bad about it.
I know, me too.
It's obvious what happened there.
But, you know, the world we live in
today is just, man, what is that?
Yeah, people should recognize what it is and
what happened.
It's like the same to people that have
that buccal fat removed.
You know, you see that and it's like,
oh, my God, why did you do that
to yourself?
Because some doctor convinced him it was a
good idea because it makes your face look
a little more gaunt, less round, which it
does.
But it also makes you look like a
ghoul if you're thin at all.
She should have come by the Curry Dvorak
consulting group.
We could have given her some of that.
I can just hear the surgeon saying, within
10 days, you'll be restaurant ready.
It's going to be great.
Don't worry.
Some bruising, you'll be fine.
Those guys lie.
Some bruising, you'll be fine.
Now she's bug eyed and looks like a
freak.
My fight is the shame.
I just love that.
You'll be restaurant ready.
Yeah, candlelight, maybe.
Anyway, so the president had his four hour
board meeting, which is another thing that, you
know, you get one snippet on the news.
It's really interesting to watch that.
And a couple of things that I wanted
to highlight.
The first was the labor secretary who was
doing exactly what you and I said should
be happening in America.
So the Labor Department has wasted no time
in putting that into action with our Make
America Skilled Again either grant dollars, but the
intentionality of the apprenticeship program, 1 million active
apprentices across this country.
We have done over 250,000 new apprentices
so far in the first year and registered
over 2,000 new apprenticeship programs.
Why do we need the apprenticeship programs with
the men and women in the trades?
Because of the leadership of on-shoring and
re-shoring and have a lot of these
companies reinvest in America.
We have to build this country.
We cannot do that without the tradesmen and
women and the craftsmen of this country.
And I think that, you know, Howard and
I, we talked about that from the beginning
and we're going to have to lean in
on that because we need the labor for
700,000 new skilled jobs with electricians, construction
workers, machinists, and so forth.
Attention Gen Z-ers who listen to this
show.
There's a future.
700,000 electricians, machinists, welders.
Those aren't going to be good paying union
jobs.
They're going to be money in the bank
because all of this manufacturing is coming back.
No one seems to care, strangely.
I'm blown away by it.
I'm like, we've always said, what happened to
apprenticeships?
These are paid apprenticeships too.
You get paid to learn and you can
go on and do $150,000, $200,000
a year.
This is amazing.
By the way, I got a note from
Nolan about another thing Gen Z-ers can't
do.
Oh, okay.
We should be on the list.
Okay.
He says, I thought this was relevant to
reading clock and Florida ounces.
Two co-workers recently stopped me in the
hallway to ask me how to strike matches.
Every time we try to light them, they
break, they said.
I showed them the proper technique, then stole
their matches.
So isn't that interesting?
Don't know how to strike a match.
I can see that.
Well, there's no such thing as a matchbook
anymore.
And so you had to buy those big
stick matches in a box.
I think matchbooks are still a thing.
I haven't seen a matchbook for five, 10
years.
Well, you don't get out much.
I mean, I get out enough to find
a matchbook.
I've not seen a matchbook for five or
10 years.
When's the last time you bought some cigarettes?
They don't even sell those as much.
But if you buy cigarettes, they still give
you a matchbook.
Well, I don't buy cigarettes.
No, there you go.
There you go.
There you go.
But then the bombshell bombshell bombshell.
Wait, do you have a bombshell?
Where's the bombshell?
I don't have a bombshell.
The bombshell was the snap benefits.
Holy moly.
Remember how we were surprised about how much
was it?
$80 billion.
It was a ridiculous high number.
$80 billion.
Well, guess what?
We have so much great things to talk
about at USDA.
But the third thing which became very much
a part of the national conversation during the
Democrat shutdown was snap reform, food stamp reform.
When all of America saw what so many
of us know and have been working on.
But when you have so much rampant fraud
in a program that 42 million Americans participate
in.
Now, big, good piece of news that I
hope is written about.
Since you became president, about 800,000 of
those 42 million have moved off of food
stamps, which is hopefully the plan with better
jobs, higher wages, etc.
But still, when we found 186,000 dead
people or dead people's social security numbers being
used, 500,000 people receiving benefits more than
twice.
We had a couple of people receiving benefits
in six states.
In February of this year, we asked for
all the states for the first time to
turn over their data to the federal government.
To let the USDA partner with them to
root out this fraud.
To make sure that those who really need
food stamps are getting them.
But also to ensure that the American taxpayer
is protected.
21 states said yes, not surprised.
29 states said yes, not surprisingly, the red
states.
And that's where all of that data, that
fraud comes from.
But 21 states, including California, New York and
Minnesota, the blue states, continue to say no.
So as of next week, we have begun
and will begin to stop moving federal funds
into those states until they comply.
And they tell us and allow us to
partner with them to root out this fraud
and to protect the American taxpayer.
As Joe Biden was working to buy an
election a year ago, he increased food stamp
program funding by 40 percent.
So now as we continue to roll that
back.
Duh, isn't that interesting?
Unbelievable.
40 percent increase and the blue states don't
want to give their data.
Okay.
No, that's typical.
Yeah.
I didn't see that report on the news.
I wonder why.
I didn't see it anywhere on the news.
I'm not sure what happened.
But they must have overlooked it in the
editorial meeting when they decide to omit stories
on purpose because it reflects poorly on the
Democrats.
And they might not do as well as
they could do in the midterms.
And the news media is in on it.
Nah, get out of town.
Nah, that's not possible.
That can't be.
I have some clips.
I have immigration crackdown clips.
I have McGregor.
I have Colonel McGregor's analysis of you.
Well, if you're going to bring the McGregor
clips in, that's when we get to play
dot MP3 dot MP3.
Do we play that first?
No, no, no.
OK.
This is an analysis that McGregor goes on
this show called the something, something to some
some fat guys.
Is a does a thing called something, something
deep dive.
No, McGregor's on the show.
This show is on YouTube.
It has all of 30K listeners.
And of course, McGregor won't do an interview
with us with a million list.
No, I'm not with you.
Not with you.
Because, well, whatever.
He didn't like your approach, man.
Didn't like your approach.
He's a stick in the mud, but he
still has good stuff to a point.
He does not recognize that sales.
The salesmanship of Donald Trump, his analysis is
good, though, and he brings in some he
brings in a perspective that is enjoyable to
listen to, because it is a little it
comes in from a different angle.
And this is McGregor analysis of the war.
What do you make of that charge that
the Europe and Ukraine are trying to sabotage
Trump's 28 point peace plan to put poison
pills in that they know Russia won't accept?
Well, the peace plan is no peace plan.
It's got lots of poison pills in it
anyway.
So I think that's dead on arrival.
Let's understand what Kushner and Whitkoff are about.
They're trying to salvage something for President Trump.
President Trump wants to be able to declare
a victory for President Trump.
This has nothing to do with Ukraine as
far as he's concerned.
He could care less.
He's already abdicated his responsibility for leadership in
Europe and NATO.
So apparently he doesn't have the authority that
he needs from his backers in New York
City and the city of London to move
forward to really do anything.
So what is he doing?
He sent Kushner and Whitkoff to go over
there and say, look, Mr. Putin, we don't
really disagree with you.
What we really want is some sort of
bone that you can throw Trump.
So that Trump can come out publicly and
say, look, I've done everything I can.
And this is the road to peace.
And I've negotiated this with President Putin.
He's on board.
Now it's up to everybody else.
And as he said a few days ago,
if they're not going to accept this, and
as far as he's concerned, Ukraine can fight
out its little heart.
You know, this is this is nonsense.
None of this is substantive.
The Russians have laid out routinely the minimal
conditions for the acceptance of any peace agreement.
They have never changed.
So what do Whitkoff and Kushner think they're
going to get?
In other words, the baby is ugly.
The baby is not going to become beautiful.
It's ugly.
It's in the cradle.
Some would like to strangle it.
Trump wants to rescue it, but it's not
going to happen.
So it doesn't make any difference what Kushner
and Whitkoff do.
OK, I have some I have some clips
that can parry that.
But we'll listen to your story.
Let's play part two of this.
And believe me, I'm sure that President Putin,
his inner circle understand this.
And if they can throw a bone to
Donald Trump, give him something that he can
point to that says, I created this.
I'm the heroic figure that brought peace, tranquility
and good fortune to Ukraine.
They'll do it because they want this damn
thing over as well.
Not because they're losing, not because they can't
win.
That's all nonsense.
Now, let's move to the European side.
Matz is on very thin ice.
Look at events in Berlin.
Look at the people in the streets.
Look at the strength that the people on
the right, the nationalist right in Germany are
achieving.
They're not a bunch of crazies.
They're not Nazis or any of this other
crap that the globalists, you know, promote.
They're simply German nationalists who said enough's enough.
And look at their platform and what's in
their platform.
Their platform says we want a restoration of
good relations with Russia.
We want to go back to doing business
with the Russians.
The majority of Germans will support that.
They know that.
Matz knows it.
This is the final hour for Matz, for
Macron, for Starmer and the others.
They have to come up with something that
keeps the war going.
If they can't, and God forbid, peace should
arrive on the battlefield because Zelensky suddenly leaves
the country or he and his friends are
accidentally blown up.
Who knows?
Whatever happens, that's the end of them.
They lose everything, whatever little bit of credibility
they may still have.
And Macron and Matz are always, they're all
hovering down there around 30% approval ratings.
Starmer is probably lower.
It's over for them.
Well, I'm in agreement there.
Certainly on the Zelensky might get blown up
bit.
Unfortunate drone incident.
Something can happen.
Oh, his brain left.
His brain left the building.
The guy's an actor.
He's a dancer.
A dancer, yeah.
He's a dancer, it's true.
He's a tiny dancer.
He's a tiny dancer.
This brings us to, to make his point,
this goes on, I have two more clips,
but to make his point, he brings in
your buddy, Ruta.
Yeah.
And to prove the point, he says, he
says, Ruta's a, see, this is where he
starts missing the point.
He doesn't see Ruta as a sales guy.
Doesn't understand Trump as a sales guy.
He doesn't get sales.
He's a military guy.
Man, this is so good.
And so he, because he doesn't get sales,
he, so he plays Ruta.
So he, they play a clip of Ruta
and the clip they play is this one,
which is a, which was from two days
ago.
This is the MP3, MP3 clip.
But this is Marco Ruta with his latest
appeal.
As we work for peace, we cannot lose
sight of Russia's increasingly brutal attacks against Ukraine.
Russia is systematically targeting civilian infrastructure, depriving
Ukrainians of heat and light at the start
of winter.
Russia is not alone in this war as
China continues to be its decisive enabler.
And the Iran and North Korea also provide
support.
Since the earliest days of Russia's full-scale
invasion, allies have shown unwavering commitment to Ukraine.
In recent months, European and Canadian allies have
provided billions of dollars of essential U.S.
equipment to Ukraine through Pearl.
This support is an important part of our
ongoing efforts to ensure Ukraine has what it
needs to defend today and deter future aggression.
So what you called dot MP3 dot MP3,
I have that exact clip in my list
as Ruta's new sales pitch.
And before we get back to McGregor, I
have 40 seconds because a lot went on
in Europe.
This is how before he even got to
that pitch.
This was the wind up before the press.
What's important is that the weapon flow and
all the other supports keeps on flowing, including
we must keep the weapons floating, flowing.
They must keep flowing.
The Danish Lithuanian initiative of investing in the
defense industrial base in Ukraine, including the Czech
ammunition initiative, including all the bilateral support going
into Ukraine.
I commend what the Irish have announced yesterday.
So I think this is all important.
Of course, Ireland, not a NATO, but no
supporting supporting Ukraine.
Of course, the way to fund it is
debate.
And I'm not going into that because this
is really up to the EU.
And I know the European Union is working
hard at solving that issue.
Yes.
Thank you so much.
You're welcome.
We'll meet again after all the meetings.
Thanks.
Thanks.
OK, bye bye.
Thanks.
And I'll get to the money bit after
your McGregor stuff.
So, yeah.
Oh, yeah.
There's one little clip.
I got two clips up, but there's a
short clip here, which was to me, OK,
because I've been bitching and moaning and groaning
about this one.
And I never thought about this.
And this is the clip three.
This is the aha clip.
And I just want to play this as
a side kind of an aside.
And then I'll reference back to my earlier
complaints.
The Russians have been very precise in their
application of military power from the beginning of
this operation.
And I say that because it's very difficult.
We talk all the time about precision strike
and minimizing collateral damage.
You're always going to have collateral damage no
matter how precise you are.
But the Russians have actually done an exceptionally
good job of minimizing civilian losses.
I've always said they did a 10 hour
drone and missile strike 10 hours and they
killed two.
Yeah.
This is what he's talking about.
I didn't realize that this is what the
Russians are.
They're not trying to kill people at all.
They're blowing up substations and infrastructure and where
the bomb making facilities, who knows what.
So they are bombing for 10 hours and
they're killing very few people.
Yeah.
And that's because I kept because the way
the news presented is a Russian did this
and they killed a baby.
And, you know, it was the whole thing.
But wait a minute, they bombed for 10
hours and they killed a baby.
That's it.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Well, that's the reason I did.
So I think McGregor hit something there that
made it worth my while.
Now, here's the last part, which you'll appreciate.
But what I want to stop and get
people to think about is who in the
hell is Ruta?
Where does he come from?
I don't wish to be too delicate in
this in this sense.
Hold on.
Let me just set it up.
He was in human resources with the rest
of the ladies at.
No, he doesn't get that granular.
It's more generalized.
OK, but he's from the Netherlands.
How many people live in the Netherlands?
Seventeen.
Well, if I were running the show, I
would say how many forces can the Dutch
put into the field?
Ten.
How many forces can the Norwegians put in
the field?
Eleven.
Remember Stoltenberg from Norway making all these utterly
ridiculous and stupid remarks, 90 percent of which
were lies.
The same thing with Ruta.
You know, anybody who is a real leader
in the West would turn to these people
and say, shut up and sit down.
We, the United States, Washington, have no interest
whatsoever in continuing this destructive and pointless war
with Russia.
So we're not interested in what you have
to say any longer.
You know, the Germans understood this for years.
The Russians have always understood it.
At some point, you need to say put
up or shut up.
During World War Two, when we had 63
divisions in France, the British, including the Canadians,
had 19.
And the thing that no one on the
Soviet side could never understand was why Eisenhower
paid any attention whatsoever to what Montgomery and
Churchill had to say.
They had no skin in the game compared
with us.
63 divisions versus 19.
Well, you have a similar situation today in
Europe.
What is your military power?
How many forces have you got?
The answer to those things is not much,
if anything, worthy of attention.
So someone needs to tell these people, shut
up, sit down.
Here's the answer.
That is what President Trump should do.
No, he doesn't.
He really doesn't understand the game at all.
No, he misses the he doesn't understand sales.
Because here is Ruta being that he's got
the brown shoes on.
He's good to go.
Well, I do not.
No, I don't think that plan B we
have to think about.
Because the U.S. is very consistent in
support for Ukraine.
So the question was, what if America pulls
out?
He says, no, no, no, this is not
going to happen.
All NATO allies are very consistent.
Of course, what the U.S. told us
is we want to supply Ukraine with the
necessary weapons, both lethal and non-lethal.
Yes, we want to supply with weapons.
This is a sales gig.
But we expect Europeans and Canadians to step
up when it comes to the paying for
it.
Where's your money?
Where is the money?
Are we not giving you credit?
You must show us the money.
The U.S. is delivering the necessary weapons,
including the air defense systems, the X-3
missiles, for the Patriot systems, but also for
the other air defense systems.
And all the other stuff and all the
military gear you need to stay as strong
as possible in the fight paid for by
European and Canadian allies.
That is the big program.
It started in July and at the moment
already five, four billion.
And I think by the end of the
year, five billion of that supply will have
been delivered to Ukraine.
Critical material.
But I have no reason to think that
we have to prepare for those eventualities.
No, just pay up with the money.
So the money is what's on the table.
And Queen Ursula came out yesterday and she
laid.
And it's interesting because I didn't realize this.
I don't, I didn't clip it because it
was so long and boring.
But she said, we have tabled two things.
Now, in America, if you say we've tabled
that, it means we're not going to consider
it.
Am I right?
You muted yourself, which is illegal in 29
states.
Unmute.
You know, it's when I open something and
I, it's hard to explain how that happens.
No, it means you put it aside.
Yeah, but in Europe, it doesn't mean you're
not going to address it someday.
No, but in Europe, when you say we've
tabled two proposals, that means we have two
proposals on the table.
What?
Yeah, I know.
I was confused.
I was really confused.
Well, here's something today.
Here is the French 24 overview clip.
This high rise in Brussels is at the
center of an argument over how the EU
could help fund Ukraine's war efforts.
It's the headquarters of Euroclear, a Belgian financial
institution which holds the vast majority of frozen
Russian assets in the EU, to the tune
of about 185 billion euros.
The EU has proposed using a huge chunk
of that money, or about 90 billion euros,
to help Kiev in its fight against Russia
over the next two years.
And since pressure is the only language the
Kremlin responds to, we can also dial it
up.
We have to increase the costs of war
for Putin's aggression, and today's proposal gives us
the means to do this.
The money would come to Kiev in the
form of so-called reparations loans.
In theory, the money would be repaid on
the condition that Russia pays reparations to Ukraine
for the destruction it caused during the war.
The plan also rests on the assumption that
Russia's assets would remain frozen for the foreseeable
future.
Moscow has called the plan illegal, and if
Russia decides to sue Euroclear, Belgium says it
alone would suffer all the legal and financial
risks.
It is not acceptable to use the money
and leave us alone facing the risks.
We have repeatedly said that we consider the
option of the reparations loan the worst of
all.
As it is risky, it has never been
done before.
Ukraine's budget and military needs through 2027 total
an estimated 130 billion euros, and with the
Trump administration having stalled financial support for Kiev,
Europe is under growing pressure to fill the
gap.
Okay, so this is kind of what McGregor
was talking about, because they need money to
fund this thing, to keep this war going.
They can't really print money in Europe, they
don't have a world reserve currency, so printing
up a couple hundred billion euros is going
to weaken the euro, and it's a non
-starter.
So there's only two ways they can do
it, and Ursula laid this all out.
One is you can raise the money in
the capital market, so borrow, which would, I
mean, that also could weaken the euro and
everything, create some kind of bond.
Or you steal the Russian money.
And here's Ursula explaining the math, because she's
taken it to a level, you know what?
We're not going to steal the money from
Euroclear, you got to listen carefully to what
she says.
We're only going to take 90 billion to
start with, and here's how the math works
out.
That was a very clear tasking by the
European Council.
You remember it started with me writing a
letter to the European Council, the three different
options that were in the options paper, a
debate we had last time and a very
clear tasking to come early enough before the
December European Council with the legal text.
That's what we're doing here today.
And now to the figures, if you take
all CSDs and commercial banks, the immobilized Russian
assets, overall it's 210 billion.
Now, what did we do?
We looked at the needs for Ukraine in
the years 26 and 27, as calculated by
the IMF.
And this is 137 billion euros.
And we've said we cover two thirds.
And this is how we come to the
90 billion euros, two thirds of these needs
for the next two years.
So that's a lot of nice accounting.
But really what she's saying is there are
CSDs, so they're secured deposits of Russian money
in different banks.
So she's saying, well, we won't go to
Euroclear.
We'll steal the money from all the other
places where the assets have been frozen.
And I found an analyst on CNBC.
I've never seen her before.
She has kind of an Eastern European, maybe
Russian accent.
But she did a pretty good job of
analyzing what is really happening here.
For a start, the frozen assets is way
bigger than 90 billion.
That's not her, obviously.
I can explain the figure.
It's 90 billion for a period of two
years.
So there's more.
You're right.
We're talking about almost 300 billion that are
indeed frozen at the moment.
But what the European Commission is saying is
that we are going to use for the
time being only 90 billion for the next
two years to support Ukraine.
That doesn't cover all the financing needs, but
it's just what the Commission decided to put
forward at this stage.
I can see a flaw in this plan
immediately.
And I'm pretty sure as part of, I
don't know, we are down to 27 bullet
points or 28 bullet points between Putin and
Trump at the moment.
I'm pretty sure that part of that plan
was you hand back those frozen assets.
You're right.
And there's so many angles we could take
with the story because there are so many
issues here, actually.
So I'll try to explain it as best
as I can.
Which is good enough for me, that's for
sure.
I'll do my best.
So what the European Commission said yesterday was,
OK, we need to support Ukraine with further
financing.
What we're suggested to do is to use
the so-called frozen Russian assets that are
held on the European continent.
So what the Commission is trying to do
here is to try to use the assets
that are available across the bloc, not just
in Belgium, because we know Belgium, where the
majority of the assets are held, has had
very strong legal concerns about this problem.
But even before the Commission put forward this
proposal, Belgium was already saying they had issues
with it.
We heard, for instance, from the foreign affairs
minister, Maxime Prévost, saying that they were going
to plead for alternatives here.
And indeed, they believe that EU borrowing is
the best option rather than using the frozen
Russian assets.
So Ursula herself is a sales lady, and
she came out with these two proposals.
One, we'll just borrow the money, or we
can steal it from the Russians over here.
And our analyst explains what that was really
about.
It was your typical, would you like the
sandals, the sneakers, or the shoes I really
want to sell you?
– What the European Commission also suggested yesterday
was, if we don't go down the route
of using the frozen Russian assets, we can
indeed go to the markets and actually borrow
cash to support Ukraine.
But that is actually even more complicated from
a European perspective, because in order to do
so, you would need all of the member
states, all of the 27, to say yes
to that plan.
And we know countries such as Hungary are
likely to raise issues with that.
So one EU official told me yesterday that
by putting forward two proposals, what the European
Commission is trying to do here is to
show to the member states that the most
viable option is still to go down the
route of the frozen Russian assets.
– Now, we know the Russians think this
is illegal.
It is illegal.
It would end at least the European financial
integrity.
Who would ever want to bank with anything?
– Yeah, why would you send your money
over there for any investment purposes or anything
for that matter if they're going to steal
it?
– Well, according to Ursula...
– On a whim.
– Listen to this.
Listen who's egging her on to do it.
– We have informed the US administration.
I've spoken, for example, to Scott Besant, that
we are planning before, right before today, that
we're planning on developing a system of the
reparations loan.
It was positively received.
– I could just hear, yeah, yeah, do
it, Ursula.
Good idea.
Go ahead, do it, do it, do it.
You can do it.
Who cares about the city of London?
Who cares about Frankfurt?
Do it.
Just do it.
– ...who have potentially immobilized Russian assets.
And the construction is in a way that
it invites others also to join with their
immobilized Russian assets.
– Oh, yeah.
– So that they can contribute also to
the financing of Ukraine and contribute in the
way the reparations loan is working.
– Dude, this is so dumb.
It's...
I don't even understand.
Is she...
Is her job...
Is it to kill the European Union?
Maybe we've misjudged her.
Maybe she's a Manchurian candidate.
– I don't think so.
– And listen to this.
If that wasn't stupid enough, oh, we got
to top her.
– A move that looks set to turn
off the tap on Russian gas forever, were
praised by the European Commission presidents.
– We're turning that page and we're turning
it for good.
This is the dawn of a new era.
The era of Europe's full energy independence from
Russia.
After pledging to reduce Russian energy intake following
the full-scale invasion of Ukraine, the share
of Russian gas in EU imports has fallen
from 45% in 2021 to 12%
as of October this year.
But while Europe has slashed pipeline deliveries, it's
partly turned to liquefied natural gas shipped by
sea, unloaded at ports and fed back into
the network.
– Oh, that's convenient.
Imports of Russian LNG into the EU are
still expected to amount to 15 billion euros
this year.
Under Wednesday's agreement, Russian pipeline gas will be
phased out by the end of September 2027
and LNG imports banned by the end of
next year.
The Commission also wants to end remaining imports
of Russian oil with legislation to be proposed
next year.
But this agreement is already facing challenges from
member states.
Slovakia, still highly reliant on gas and oil
from Moscow, is weighing its legal options, while
Hungary's foreign minister says his country already has
a plan.
As soon as the Repower EU plan is
formally adopted, we will immediately challenge it before
the EU Court of Justice.
Legal proceedings will start without delay.
Preparatory work is already underway.
We will do everything necessary to defend Hungary's
energy security.
Meanwhile, the Kremlin has condemned the move, saying
it would doom Europe to becoming less competitive
and lead to higher prices for consumers.
Of course, these people are insane.
And right on cue, in the Netherlands, where
they have an open energy market, which means
you can, you know, you can brand your
own version of energy.
Oh, we're the green guys.
Take our, take our electricity.
Every single one of them is now introducing
smart heating.
Oh, yeah.
So, so you will get it.
You know, this is, we, this already failed
here in America.
But yeah, we're going to give you a
thermostat that we can control to heat your
home smartly.
You remember it was?
Yeah, the remote control thermostat.
I think it was three years ago.
Maybe it was longer than that.
Two or three years ago, we had friends
here.
They're in their 70s.
And, you know, the business people that have
some stores around here used to do some
real estate.
And they both had the flu, which is
not nice.
But he said, he sent out a text
message to say, hey, you know, I signed
up for that smart heating thing.
And now it's, you know, it's 28 degrees.
And we can't turn the heat up manually.
Because they had opted into one of those
stupid plans.
So I had to take a space heater
over to them.
This is the dumbest idea.
It's all of Europe is being ruined by
this woman.
It's so this is a capture by the
Greens.
I mean, this is obviously a problem.
Now, this brings us to another point.
I think McGregor made it or somebody did,
which is they predict that Germany, because of
the AFD, at some point, they're going to
cave and the AFD is going to take
over the place.
Yeah.
And the first thing they're going to do
is get out of the EU and get
out of NATO.
Of course.
Because then they can do business.
Russia, really?
Well, you don't want their gas.
We'll take it.
And the Russians will have it at a
cheaper price.
I mean, anything's cheaper than hauling it over
in a ship.
Right.
And then so they just ramp back up.
I mean, Germany is the industrial powerhouse that
can ramp up in a minute if you
give them cheap energy.
And they just run roughshod over the rest
of the rest of these European countries, which
are going to be what's left of the
EU.
They're going to be starving.
Starving.
The hunger winter.
Let's get an update from the North Sea
Nexus on how the Russian peace talks went.
The announcement of the EU's plans came after
high stakes peace talks between the U.S.
and Russia in Moscow failed once again to
produce any breakthrough.
Russia has dismissed any suggestion that Vladimir Putin
rejected all of President Trump's proposals.
But add a name.
That's an interesting line that she uses here.
So that's very interesting construction.
You're right.
I heard it, too.
Yeah, she said.
But you're going to have to read it
or repeat it or.
Yeah, I'll do both.
So she says Russia has rejected any claims
that Putin rejected all of the proposals.
So what you're hearing as a casual listener
of the BBC is, well, Russia rejected all
claims, all rejected everything.
But that's not what she actually said.
She said the Russians rejected this notion that
Putin rejected everything.
Again, to produce any breakthrough.
Russia has dismissed any suggestion that Vladimir Putin
rejected all of President Trump's proposals.
But at a NATO meeting in Brussels this
morning, the Secretary General Mark Rutte said if
the peace talks took too long, there were
two ways to put pressure on Russia.
One is making sure that the Russians understand
that a weapon flow into Ukraine will keep
on going.
This is exactly what's happening today.
Thanks to the U.S., thanks to the
Europeans, U.S. sending its crucial gear to
Ukraine, paid for by Canada and European allies.
But also Europe and Canada are doing a
lot bilaterally.
And secondly, making sure that the economic sanctions
bite, that they are effective.
That's also exactly what's happening.
Yes, despite the customary...
They bite.
The people will be very cold in Europe,
but they bite.
OK, that's good.
They bite.
Despite the customary smiles and handshakes for the
cameras, NATO countries meeting here know they've been
sidelined from the Ukraine peace process by their
biggest and most influential member, the U.S.
Secretary of State Marco Rubio is conspicuous by
his absence.
President Trump is pushing for an immediate end
to the war and has already stopped giving
weapons to Ukraine.
What does that even mean?
Rubio is conspicuous by his absence.
What is the subtext of that?
There is some subtext, because in all the
analysis I've been listening to, there's something about
Rubio is...
I think McGregor's right.
The whole thing is really about getting a
bone for Trump and ending the war that
way with some phony baloney thing that's going
to happen.
And Rubio is not part of it because
he would...
That's not him.
They want these two sales guys in there,
Witkoff and Kushner, to try to push this
across the line.
And Rubio is not involved.
He's just not involved.
Secretary of State Marco Rubio is conspicuous by
his absence.
President Trump is pushing for an immediate end
to the war and has already stopped giving
weapons to Ukraine, although he is still willing
to sell them via Europe for now.
As for the Putin-Witkoff meeting in Moscow
last night, the Kremlin said it would be
wrong to suggest President Putin had rejected the
U.S. proposals and insisted there could be
more meetings with the Americans for as long
as necessary.
Crucially, though, there's no sign whatsoever Moscow is
ready to give up its key demand for
Ukrainian territory it hasn't yet taken in exchange
for ending the war.
So that's the BBC's take.
And remember, it starts with the talks have
failed.
Let's listen to the...
Yeah, this is the BBC.
They're just gone off the rails.
I have to say that this brings back
to mind Zelensky either fleeing the country or
getting blown up.
Oh, yeah.
But I think he's going to flee the
country.
Well, they only have two weeks, two weeks
until the money is on the table or
decided what they're going to do to continue
to weapon flow.
But the thing is, I think there's an
ambassador somewhere.
There's the Ukrainian ambassador to...
I want to say the U.K. And
I think if Zelensky goes out, that guy
comes in.
I've been hearing his name.
Let me see.
What is it?
Well, Zelensky's got to go because once he
lost his aid, the guys really run anything
that his producer is, you know, TV, radio,
producer, director.
His producer.
Yes.
Once that guy left, he fled.
You know, he's not indicted.
He's gone.
He took off.
Yeah.
Once he left, Zelensky's rudderless.
He's in Monaco.
Oh, he went to Monaco?
That's where they all are.
If you go to Monaco, there's Rolls Royces,
Ferraris, all...
You know, I've been to Monaco a couple
of times.
But all...
But you didn't let me finish.
All with Ukrainian license plates.
Oh, that's...
I don't...
I never noticed.
But I'll say this.
Monaco, if you're going to escape to some
place and they let you do it...
You want to go to Monaco.
That's where I'd go.
That's right.
Okay, here's the French 24 version of the
talks report.
The Trump administration's top envoys have once again
left the Kremlin empty-handed with no peace
deal.
Steve Witkoff and Jared Kushner sat down with
Russia's Vladimir Putin, tasked with finding a way
to end the war in Ukraine.
They discussed the framework of the revised US
-backed peace plan.
Putin's foreign policy aide said it was a
positive discussion, but more work needs to be
done.
The conversation was very useful, constructive, and very
meaningful.
It lasted not for five minutes, but for
five hours.
We could agree with certain things.
And President Putin confirmed this to his interlocutors.
We criticized some things.
And the president did not hide our critical,
even negative attitude to a number of proposals.
No details have been given about what was
discussed.
But Yuri Yushakov said they did talk about
the territorial problem.
Moscow has not backed down on its territorial
demands, seeking Russian sovereignty not just in the
20% of Ukrainian land currently controlled by
its troops, but also calling on the Ukrainian
army to retreat from the front line and
concede further losses.
I love how she says there's no details,
but then she has all these details.
She's got a lot of details.
Russia is also calling for a more than
30% reduction in the size of Ukraine's
army and the possibility of Ukrainian NATO membership
to be completely off the table.
Ukrainian President Zelensky has been on tour around
Europe to fortify support against Russia's invasion.
Before details of the US-Russian meeting emerged,
he once again reiterated his country's need for
long-term deterrence against Russian aggression.
So that's a little different than the BBC.
It's like, well, the Russians right there said,
well, you know, we got along on some
things.
They listened to us.
We had some points we didn't agree on.
There was a real conversation.
But oh no, not according to the BBC.
Oh no, oh no.
So two weeks, the clock is ticking.
Two weeks for the money.
They're going to have to make a decision
and the European Commission has to make a
decision.
Are we going to borrow the money or
are we going to steal the money?
It's such a great, this is a great
show to watch.
I really love it.
It's funny.
Especially with Ursula and Rutte.
Those two just make it great.
And then, oh, all of a sudden, let
me ask you a question.
What is the point of banning countries from
international events?
Like, you know, Russia.
Russia's not allowed to be in Olympics.
It's virtue signaling.
No real reason.
I mean, there is really no reason.
It doesn't do anything.
It doesn't.
No, in fact, it does the opposite of
what these events are supposed to do, which
is bring people together.
Well, here's the latest.
It's a major test for the world's most
beloved international song competition.
Members of the European Broadcasting Union, the body
that organized Eurovision, will meet Thursday to decide
whether Israel can compete in 2026.
Public broadcasters from Spain, Slovenia, the Netherlands, and
Ireland have threatened to withdraw if Israel participates,
citing the Palestinian death toll in Gaza due
to Israel's offensive.
Boycott could be a blow for sponsorship and
viewership, particularly by Spain, which is one of
the big five contributing countries.
We hold the same position we had months
ago, when we said Israel's participation in the
Eurovision festival was untenable for two main reasons.
Firstly, because of the genocide it has perpetrated
in Gaza.
Eurovision is, of course, a contest, but human
rights are not a contest.
Eurovision has always aimed to remain apolitical, but
Israel's participation has heavily influenced the last few
editions.
This year, critics accused Israel of unfairly boosting
support for its entrant Yuval Raphael, a survivor
of the October 7th attacks, pushing her to
a second-place finish despite little backing from
professional juries.
The controversy pushed EBU to change its voting
rules, aimed at pacifying angry member states.
Members will discuss Thursday whether these new rules
are adequate, or else there will be a
vote on participation.
Should Israel be voted out, it wouldn't be
the first country to be barred.
Russia has been excluded from Eurovision since its
2022 invasion of Ukraine, and Belarus since 2021.
Eurovision 2026 is scheduled to take place next
May in Austria.
So the Dutch, the Dutch, oh no, if
Israel, if Israel is in it, we're out.
We're going to boycott it.
What?
What?
This presents a great opportunity though.
This is where America should step up and
should say, we're creating the gayest song contest
of the world ever, and everybody's invited.
And we can do it.
Yes, and Trump could do it.
The gayest song contest in the world.
Let's get rid of this Eurovision crap.
And we'll, and we'll even give the UK
an advantage, because they're always last.
We'll give them, we'll give them a five
point advantage.
It would be fantastic.
Handicap.
A handicap, thank you.
A handicap.
It would be great.
This is, that's what they're worried about.
So all eyes, two weeks.
I'll keep my eye on it.
I will be, we'll be on top of
it.
Of course, it's so good.
I have a couple of clips from two,
actually.
Which is a couple.
Three, but it's not really.
In fact, they screwed it up twice.
That's good to know.
Yes.
Arctic frost.
Yeah.
So which one is it?
Well, the first, the ones that say one
are both the same, which is should be,
because they're one.
But I look at the time and I
say, oh, I forgot to cut it.
And I'm guessing it cuts off.
I'll tell you when to stop it.
Okay, here we go.
A little bit of history before I get
to what we're.
Oh, this is, what's his name?
Yeah, this is, what's his name?
Yeah, the old guy.
The old geezer, the 90 year old, the
guy.
The only guy who's still on top of
Arctic frost in our government.
All right, good.
We love him.
Leasing today.
I started the investigation into Arctic frost.
July 2022.
Based on whistleblower disclosures.
Based on these disclosures.
We know that weaponized taxpayer funded agents and
prosecutors advanced the investigation.
As Arctic frost advanced 92 Republican organizations or
individuals were targeted.
Not just Trump.
And they were added to its scope.
And author of that targeting list was special
agent Walsh and Walter Gerardino.
He's the same weaponized agent who was involved
in other cases against Republicans, including Peter Navarro.
We've learned Jack Smith secretly obtained phone record
data from at least eight senators and one
congressman.
I've recently been informed by Verizon that at
least 11 members with Verizon accounts were affected.
That includes a hard line for Senator Cruz's
office and a staffer cell phone for former
Senator Loeffler.
AT&T informed me they challenged the legal
basis for Jack Smith's efforts and Smith backed
down.
We already had this, though.
I thought we had this.
Yeah, well, he keeps repeating his Grassley.
And so it's like.
I keep getting the sense that this is
a commercial for AT&T.
Because we protect your privacy.
Pay no attention to that building on Second
Street in San Francisco where we tap the
entire Internet.
The building with no windows.
Yeah, the building is beautiful.
It's a beautiful window.
Beautiful.
Yeah, you can stand out in front of
it and point at it and the cops
will show up.
Yeah.
Yeah, you don't have to play any more
of this.
But this is that this is getting no
coverage whatsoever by the mainstream media at all.
And I'd like to know why.
It's like this story we covered earlier in
the show.
And it's another thing you brought it.
You brought it in the clip.
No, zero coverage.
No, but we need we need to do.
War crimes, war crimes.
So this is a follow up, not to
drop the Arctic frost and go to Jack
Smith called.
This is another thing that nothing's going to
come of it.
I'll be definitely dogging this hearing when it
happens.
Special Counselor Jack Smith has been called to
appear before the House Judiciary Committee in a
letter.
Chairman Jim Jordan told Smith this is over
the prosecution of President Trump.
Smith investigated President Trump for allegedly meddling in
the 2020 election.
He eventually brought criminal charges against Trump, one
related to the election, another for allegedly mishandling
classified documents.
Both cases were dropped after Trump won reelection.
The subpoena also demands all documents and communications
related to Smith's time as special counsel.
Smith is expected to appear on December 17th.
Oh, yeah.
OK.
Another thing, nothing will come of it.
No, this is embarrassing.
Well, I still think that there's more going
on at the Department of Justice because Bondi
will do whatever she's told.
The whole point of putting her in charge
and I presume Patel and Code Bongino is
to route out the bad actors and all
the nonsense and all the crap that's been
going on for years and years and years.
And I think some of it will come
out.
I don't know about this particular item, but
we're going to it has to be.
Trump is going as long as he stays
alive.
We had a perfect MRI, by the way.
So, oh, yeah, everything's perfect.
Best ever.
In fact, he aced it.
He aced his MRI.
He aced the MRI.
That's a good.
I got an x-ray the other day.
I aced it.
I aced it, man.
No problem.
Yeah, he's out for blood for everything.
He is ripping apart all of these systems,
all of it.
And do as best he can.
Don't forget USAID shut down.
I mean.
Yeah, that's really good.
That's a big deal.
A huge thing.
Of course, the Democrats will get in because
nobody votes in the midterms, especially the lazy
Republicans.
And so they'll get back in and they'll
make a mess of things once they get
back to the House.
They won't get the Senate.
That's why you activate Flynn.
Get everybody afraid of the Muslims.
Oh, we got to rip out Republicans.
I don't think that's going to do the
trick.
But maybe, maybe not.
Now, I have a pre-donation clip.
OK, perfect.
And can I just remind everybody, I was
talking to a friend yesterday and he works
for a very big Christian organization.
And his wife, she is, she's a no
agenda nut.
She loves the show.
He says to me, my wife listens more
to you and John than to me, which,
by the way, she's a good woman.
A good woman will keep your marriage healthy
for a long, long time.
Yep.
Another person on the call who also listens.
She's probably listening while she's cleaning.
That's how good of a woman she is.
OK, thanks, John.
I'm really helpful.
Very helpful.
And his colleagues, he says, hey, you know,
I didn't realize it, but when you guys
go to thank people, donation, there's like a
whole hour of show after that.
I said, yes.
So I look down like, oh, there's an
hour.
Yes, we thank people who are executive and
associate executive producers.
And then we come back with more show.
Yeah, it's amazing.
People think, oh, donations, guess the show's over.
We don't do donations at the end of
the show.
No, but in fact, in fact, we even
have a tip at the end after the
second round of donation of the day.
And there's stuff in the donation segment that
you are missing.
Yes, every so often there's some really great
stuff.
More often than every so.
Anyway, your pre donation clip.
Which is what?
So this woman, Lily Gaddis, I don't know
if you're familiar with it.
She's a YouTuber.
Oh.
She is a character on YouTube that is
and she got demonetized and kicked off.
And that's the point of the donation segment,
because she was reliant on on YouTube for
her income.
She was making good money.
Oh, no, no, no.
But they kicked her off.
Now, I will remind people may have seen
these clips, but she does.
Sometimes she does the her show, which is
bitching and moaning or giving advice or whatever,
and she'll do it in blackface.
You do find the most interesting and entertaining
people, John.
You do.
So Lily going blackface, but she's the only
blackface.
Her hands are still white.
They're like bone white.
And she's in complete blackface lecturing black women.
Oh, good.
And I have to say.
Yeah, it's racist, and I guess it would
be offensive if it wasn't so funny.
And but so now she's singing the blues.
And this is the reason.
This will be hard.
Will this work by not seeing her doing
this in blackface?
No, she's not in blackface where she's doing
this.
She's now holding a mic because he can't
even talk into it.
Right.
And she's got lost her, I guess, her
producer because it doesn't sound good.
Bad audio.
And she is lamenting the fact that she
got kicked off and she's sorry because she's
just being herself blackface, just being herself as
a goofball.
And it says to me, this is why
we don't rely on some something like YouTube
for our income, or we don't rely on
advertisers and all the rest of it, because
this can happen to us if we didn't
go through the trouble and expense of having
our own servers.
We have our own infrastructure.
We have our own RSS fees, this admin.
Yes, which costs money.
And we have we have these expensive, but
but we don't have to worry about this
woman's plight.
I have officially been demonetized on YouTube, which
was my sole form of income.
Aside from a few tiny little outlets here
and there, YouTube was my main moneymaker.
And I'm not I'm kind of stupid.
I don't have a five year plan.
I don't plan ahead.
I live in the moment.
I put it all out there.
I'm an open book.
I live with my heart on my sleeve.
You know, if I say something, I mean
it.
I couldn't censor myself.
I refuse to censor myself.
It's just impossible.
I really tried.
I really tried my best, believe it or
not.
What you saw on YouTube was the vanilla
me.
It was like the vanilla of the vanilla.
I tried my best, but they want to
keep a real down, OK?
And that's what they're doing.
Yeah, we would not have lasted more than
18 years if we relied on any third
party.
We wouldn't last 18 months.
Yeah, it's it's sad when I when I
see this happen.
And when people say to me, hey, man,
why don't you stream the show on X
like Tim Poole and Tucker and other smart
people?
And I don't answer that, but I will
answer it here.
Because if for whatever reason, because whenever you
have a big the sensor button, it can
be used against you.
If it exists, it can and probably will
be used against you eventually.
And here's the other problem.
Let me finish my thought.
OK.
If we build up an audience on X
who are used to watching it there, and
then all of a sudden it goes away.
So you lose your audience at the whim
of a madman.
This is exactly what I was going to
say.
And you obviously caught me in the process.
Well, yes, you get they get dependent on
the on the outlet.
Yes.
And then you go away.
They kicked you off the outlet.
And the next thing you know, what happened
to them?
I don't know.
Who cares?
This is the entire loss.
This is the entire reason that Dave Jones
and I started podcast index dot org, which
we make no money from.
And we start over five years ago when
Apple started de-platforming, not the monitor, but
de-platforming podcasts from Apple podcasts.
And because at the time, all all apps,
all podcast apps were all checking Apple's database,
which they leave open.
They disappeared from all the other apps.
This is the antithesis of podcasting.
And so that's why you want to get
a modern podcast app.
So your favorite and these shows and they
do video, too, by the way, you can
you can do video on those podcast apps.
They work quite well, actually, you know, get
smart, people figure it out.
You know, we literally saw Twitter going from
banning people on the right.
And now X is banning people on the
left.
I mean, you do not want to be
anywhere near a ban hammer.
It's just that's just the fact.
So, yes, the only problem we still seem
to have, which I don't think is something
we can solve, is emails.
And, you know, and Tina always she's always,
oh, happened again.
John had to send out another email because,
you know, you have all your metrics, you
know how it works.
And these emails, they get whether it's the
wrong emoji or you put Trump in there
three times instead of two outfits like Gmail
will just market a spam.
And then it goes away or doesn't even
show up at all.
The problem with Gmail is it is inconsistent.
The problem with Gmail is everyone uses it.
That's the problem.
That is the real problem.
Yeah, that's the real problem.
And so, yes, I sent this thing out
because there was no I didn't get enough
kickback on the auto replies.
I used to have like like 10 people
or something.
They always say 10 to 15 auto replies.
Come back out of office.
And it was more pronounced on the weekends.
But this happens all the time.
None.
Zero.
Hey, by the way, none.
So who still puts out of office replies
on their email?
Who does this anymore?
Lots of people, more people than you.
That's got to be a boomer move if
I ever saw one.
Yeah, well, but it's a metric.
You're never out of the office.
It's not that many, but it's enough that
I notice it.
You're never not gone.
So I sent a note out saying if
you didn't I had more responses on this
particular one.
I had at least 50 people.
And that means there's got to be at
least, you know, a factor of five.
More that said, no, I never got the
email.
I looked in my box.
I looked here.
I looked there.
I looked everywhere.
And it wasn't in here.
It wasn't a promotion.
It wasn't in spam.
It didn't come.
And I got like, wow, there's like one
after the other after the other.
They had sent this note back saying that
they never heard it.
They never saw the email and including the
ones that really bother me, which is I've
always gotten the email.
It's always come except this time.
So what?
How does that work?
There was not.
I'm using the same template for the email
that I always use.
Basically, it's the same email, except it's got,
you know, the tomorrow's show is different every
time.
That's the main thing.
And the memes are different.
And so is the hypocrite of the week.
They're all different, but it's the same template.
And I go light on the headline.
I can't figure out for the life of
me why this one got.
This is this.
And I have to credit.
I have to say this has got to
be male chimp side.
Could be.
Could be.
I mean, I just have to remind you
that when we had pod show before it
was Mevio, that we got a deal from
a company that was also funded by the
same investors, Kleiner Perkins.
And I think maybe it was Sequoia only.
But, you know, the big guys.
And that was a company that made deals
with the big email providers, Yahoo, Gmail, probably
AOL.
And you had to pay because we had
customer service emails that needed to go out.
You know, you register, you get an email
and you had to pay these companies so
that you would be guaranteed delivery.
It was a huge and was like $10
,000 a month just for starters.
Yes, I don't do not believe that MailChimp
has not paid this.
This bribe.
Well, then there's the problem we need.
Who who takes who pays the bribe?
We got to go with those guys.
Well, I think I think MailChimp does pay
the they pay the bribe.
Well, they got it.
But I don't care because it's still having
him having fails.
I think a lot of it happens on
the MailChimp side doesn't go out or who
knows what.
Whatever the case is, a couple of systems
are going to check out.
It's a pain in the ass.
I expect to do this in January.
And but it's like it was a very
annoying moment.
Well, to send out this second email.
And here's the problem with doing it.
I don't mind doing it because it's easy
to crank out a second email because they
charge as a flat fee so I can
send an email out every hour if I
wanted to.
But every time you send out a second
email, you get a bunch of people that
see it and go, oh, yeah, I'm unsubscribing.
So they take themselves off the list.
So we have an X number of unsubscribers
that go exponentially when you send out too
much email.
I know you're spamming me, bro.
I don't want you to spam Dvorak.
Hey, with that, I want to thank you
for your courage.
Say in the morning to you, the man
who put the sea in Cuellar.
Say hello to my friend on the other
end.
The one, the only Mr. John C.
Dvorak.
Yeah, in the morning, you had a great
admirership.
Seaboost on the graphite in the air, surfs
in the water and all the names are
nice out there.
Hold on a second.
You don't move.
All right.
One thousand five hundred and thirteen.
It's cold outside.
What are you doing, people?
Those are people who are listening live to
the show as we speak.
Many of them are in the troll room
being interactive.
They're helping.
They're engaging.
They're engaging with our content.
That's how we got the notice about the
dentist at the.
Oh, yeah, Epstein Island.
Exactly.
They help.
They're helpful.
It's like our own studio audience, but they
can talk back.
And that's just one of the thousands of
producers that we have.
As I said, they're listening live and we
talked about it earlier.
Get yourself a modern podcast app at podcastapps
.com.
That'll even notify you when we go live.
And then you just tap on that notification
and you hear the live stream in your
podcast app.
Mind blown.
And because of the pod ping technology included
in all of these apps, when we post
the show, you're not waiting around like a
schlub watching every post.
Wow.
Yeah.
I just got the show.
It's not.
You didn't upload to Apple yet, man.
Hey, are we on Spotify yet?
I don't think Spotify approved us.
Let me see.
Creators.spotify.com.
Then we can bitch.
Yeah.
Well, let me see.
First, they were stealing our material.
First, they were stealing it without our permission.
Auto up.
Oh, oh, we're on.
We're up.
No, we're not.
Nope.
We're still processing.
We're still under review.
So that means we're not, we're not getting
in.
We're not going to get in.
We're no good.
This is imagine we're no good, but I'm
not going to get us in.
No.
Imagine if we had built up a following
of people listening on Spotify because from day
one, when they started and they had that
contract, I'm like, no, we're not doing that.
Then you said, no, we're not doing that
bad, bad, bad.
And then they took us off.
And imagine if there were tens of thousands
of people listening or hundreds of thousands, and
then all of a sudden it's gone.
So no, you can't count on these people.
They are no good.
We of course are great.
And that's why people help us in many
different ways.
Time, talent, or treasure.
We pioneered the value for value model, which
exactly what John was talking about.
We don't rely on any platform to pay
us.
We don't have ads inserted.
You don't have to go to Patreon who
ultimately, you know, the Patreon winds up taking
the money on both ends.
So if you have a Patreon account and
your people subscribe to your level, whatever it
is, which is a fixed amount, which we
don't believe in.
No, not at all.
It makes no sense, but okay.
Then they take, I think 7% of
the money you get, that's their processing fee.
But the way it works is they also
take the processing fee from the person who
sent it.
Oh, so they're double dipping.
They are.
This is what I believe.
This is what I've heard.
It makes sense, that's what I do.
Well, yeah, if we were running Patreon, we
would, absolutely.
Yeah, of course.
So we also like other ways of people
helping us.
We've got end of show mixes.
We have the producers everywhere.
Producers everywhere.
I mean, who else has someone who just
did a document, who did a documentary on
drug boats and blowing them up and wasn't
allowed to show the footage?
Come on.
I mean, these, by the way, I should
probably mention this.
We, where did I put it?
We got a note from Rob, the constitutional
lawyer about Sharia law in Texas.
Interested?
Of course.
You and John...
Is the Pope a Catholic?
Does the bear crap in the woods?
You and John have been discussing Sharia law
in Texas.
I barely know anything about Sharia law, but
I do know a couple of things that
you might find enlightening.
Bottom line, nothing prevents private parties from practicing
Sharia law amongst themselves by agreement.
This is something that people don't really think
about.
Parties can agree to be bound by whatever
body of law they want, just as long
as it doesn't run afoul of statute or
some judicially recognized public policy.
I've actually litigated contract disputes in which parties
in one state have agreed to be bound
by the laws of another state, or even
in another country, or even a set of
rules that negotiate between them.
After all, this is what a contract is,
an agreement to do things in a certain
way.
Next time you sign a contract, look for
a choice of law provision.
The odds are good it will make you
subject to the laws of another jurisdiction.
Second, parties can also resolve their disputes outside
the court system.
Typically, this takes the form of arbitration clause,
also very common except in consumer contracts.
But arbitration can take many forms.
Judge Judy, the People's Court, all these pseudo
-courtroom shows are essentially arbitration.
See, I didn't know that.
Sharia-style forms are no different as long
as the parties agree legitimately.
Again, there are laws that impose restrictions, especially
in the employment and consumer context, where one
party wields all the power.
But as long as an agreement doesn't run
afoul of these laws or of a recognized
public policy, Muslims and non-Muslims alike can
agree to be bound by Sharia law.
This is not the same thing as enacting
city ordinances that conflict with Texas or U
.S. law.
It must be done by private agreement, and
both parties have to agree.
So this sounds kind of logical when you
think about it.
But next time you hear, Sharia law is
coming!
Well, yeah, that's like your HOA, basically.
That's what it is.
And the HOA may be worse.
Call the suits.com for all of your
Sharia law disputes.
I'm sure Rob will be happy to help
you.
So now let us thank the artist for
episode 1822.
We titled that one, uh, hold on a
second.
1821, I'm sorry.
We titled that Genesis.
That was for the Genesis Project, the bailout
of the AI companies.
Great piece of art.
I realize you, because this, this was the
artist from Jock10, J-O-C-K-U
-10, Jock10.
This is comic strip blogger.
I don't think it's comic strip blogger.
I don't think so.
But it came from something you said in
the show, which I think we actually, we
even put that at the, did we use
that at the beginning of the show?
Where you said, the phone is the devil's
playground, man.
It's comic strip blogger.
It's not comic strip blogger.
Well, go back and look.
I thought it was Jock10.
Did I know?
Did I not do that properly?
Oh, yeah.
Oh, did you credit him wrong on the
page?
I guess I did.
Yeah.
Well, I feel bad about that.
Well, you should.
Poor comic strip blogger got no credit.
I'm surprised he didn't call.
Well, I probably got it on the, on
the, let me see if I got it
on the main page.
Have I got it on the credit page?
Let me see.
No, I, I got it right on the
credit page, but on the page I looked
at it was still wrong.
So I'm sorry.
But yes, we broke three rules in picking
this art.
One, gruesome.
This is the, the devil, uh, uh, uh,
the devil head coming out of the phone.
Two, uh, we use the opening clip, which
pertain to the art.
As you said, the phone is the devil's
playground and three comics or blogger.
I mean, we broke three rules.
We know it was three.
Devil's tool.
Let's get the devil.
Did you say devil's tool?
Yeah.
Satan's tool.
Satan's tool.
There you go.
And the third rule, we broke his comics
or blogger.
We try to always stay away from his
art.
Comics blogger, because you hate him.
I love him.
What are you talking about?
We usually block his art.
It's always a butt.
Where's the butt here?
We know this was an excellent piece.
It was a good piece.
The rule that the real rule that broke
was the gruesomeness because I try to avoid
it because I don't like the associative problem
that it creates.
It's no good.
Yeah.
For marketing.
Yeah.
But it's such a nice piece.
And it is.
And every time I bring this up to
anybody, say, call the cell phone, Satan's tool.
They all.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah, that's right.
And they're right back on it.
That's right.
Looking away.
Hold on a second.
I got a text message.
Let me go back.
Enlarging.
And beginning.
Thumbing this and thumbing that.
Have you ever watched women go through Instagram?
I don't know.
I don't know what.
I don't ask what they're looking at.
Well, if you see it, then they're always
stopping on a picture and then they're zooming
in.
Always zooming in.
Oh, yeah.
Look at that bitch.
What's she got over here?
OK, let me let me see her neck.
OK, let me see her arms.
OK, let me let me look at her
ankles.
They're so judgmental.
Not all women, of course.
Sorry, women.
Yes, there's plenty of women that don't even
use the phone.
And they listen to this show.
That's the one.
And talking about great women.
Baronetess Kelly.
Is that a woman?
Well, I would hope so.
That may actually be a man, maybe a
dude.
It's Kelly.
Why would it be baronet?
Oh, baronetess.
That would not be a dude.
Hello.
Oh, boy.
Well, I know.
Maybe you can move back to California.
From Sayville, New York, 433 dot 34.
As we always like to thank our supporters
financially, $50 and above.
This is our special segment where we thank
what we call and deem and credit as
our executive and associate executive producers.
Credits that are good anywhere.
Hollywood showbiz credits are recognized, including IMDB dot
com.
$200 or above.
We will read your note.
$300 above.
We will read your note.
John and Adam.
This quote has been hitting hard lately, says
baronetess Kelly.
When you're dead, you don't know you're dead
and the pain is felt by others.
The same thing happens when you're stupid.
OK, this was a Rickard Gervais quote.
And she says, thank God for this show
and my sanity.
No, there you go.
Also, John, do you happen to know whether
to buy lamb from Australia or New Zealand,
which is better quality?
You're the guy with the best cooking tips.
Thanks for all the value you give to
me and all the best to you, too.
Baroness Kelly of the longest island.
She's from Long Island, apparently.
Yeah, I sent her a note.
I've never had that much New Zealand lamb
to say, but I can tell you this.
If you're going to buy Australian lamb, which
is really good quality, you buy it, you
buy spring lamb, which which is a kind
of counterintuitive because the spring lamb from Australia
comes in around November.
So you can get this incredibly great spring
lamb, which is usually more tender and tastier.
Yeah, you want the babies.
You want to kill the babies.
That's the best kind of if you can
get to.
Yeah, well, if you want.
Yeah, you do.
Yeah.
And so, you know, now the season is
just about to end because, you know, the
spring is everything's flipped and people don't realize
it.
Yeah, this is all buying Australian lamb in
November.
Well, this is kind of off for not
the right time of year.
No.
If you're buying local, no, but Australia, yes.
Why not buy?
And that's all.
Why not buy some lamb from America?
Don't we have good lamb?
Is our lamb no good here?
Our lamb is good here.
Yeah.
Well, buy our lamb.
Go ahead and buy it in the spring.
Yeah, buy it in the spring and don't
buy it from Australia.
But Australian lamb is quite good.
Yeah.
All right.
Our lamb is best.
Best, best lamb.
I don't find any evidence of this.
All right.
All right.
Oh, and so that would throws it to
me.
Yes, it does.
Which means we go to Sir Schmidiotic.
No, Smidiot.
He even puts it in a note.
Rhymes with idiot.
Oh, yeah.
Smidiot rhymes with idiot, Shreveport, Louisiana.
$3.50. $93.
Adam and John, hope this note finds you
well.
Sorry it's been a while since I've donated.
Better late than never.
I wanted to say thank you again for
informing and entertaining me six hours a week.
I don't log into the troll room, but
I always listen live.
So count me in as a plus one
in the troll count.
To the other No Agenda listeners out there,
I'd like to remind you how much you're
spending on a bunch of streams and services
that don't give as much value as the
No Agenda show.
Right on.
It's time to donate.
Yes.
Can I get a spooky JCD donate?
Better yet, John, can you do it live?
Best regards, Sir Smidiot.
Rhymes with idiot in Shreveport, Louisiana.
Do you want me?
I have the jingle.
Do you want to do it live?
I'm going to do it live with the
sound effect box.
Okay.
Donate, donate.
That's good.
That's a new one.
That's a new one.
I'll take it.
John's pretty good.
John Siebert comes in from Auburn, California with
$341.24, which equals 381,958 satoshis.
He's a Bitcoin donation and it's a switcheroo
for his daughter, Elaine Siebert of Auburn, California.
Let me put her name in right away,
John.
I'll make sure we don't mess that up.
Okay.
Elaine switcheroo.
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I'm looking for a gift idea for the
women in my life.
I wonder what it is.
Now we have another strike donation.
This one here is anonymous so far and
maybe we'll get a note from somebody.
I didn't get anything, but this is for
329.98 or 96.
And in this case, we can give them
a Double Up Karma.
Yes, we can.
Here it is.
You've got Karma.
This Arcana Resin stuff is pretty cool.
It's a bunch of flowers and looks like,
what's that?
Lucite?
Resin, I guess.
Huh.
Oh, so they put the, they take in
these crazy flowers you get up in the
foothills and they put them in a resin
block and then you can give that to
somebody as a gift?
Yeah.
As a decoration, table decoration?
A conversation starter?
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That is a good idea.
Cool idea.
I like it.
Zane Peterson is next from Mantee, Utah.
By the way, thank you everybody for telling
me that it is Minot Airport and not
Minot.
I got it.
Zane Peterson, Mantee, Utah, $312.
My buddy and I took a trip to
DC right before Thanksgiving.
This is what was left out of my
trip fund.
Wow.
Nice trip.
It never ceases to amaze me how far
ahead of the curve No Agenda is.
I give a lot of credit to John.
It never ceases to amaze me the knowledge
he has.
Oh, I'm all on board with that.
On every topic, he has a story or
a life experience.
You guys are both absolutely fantastic, but John
is definitely my favorite.
Get a room, Zane.
Thank you for the value you bring.
Can you play Dogs Are People Too?
Thanks again, Zane Peterson.
Dogs are people too.
And before you continue, I want to thank
Holly for the beautiful one piece flag she
gave me.
I forgot to mention on Sunday, she came
to me in church.
So they got a flag for you.
Yes.
And Holly's flag came to me too.
Yeah.
On the last mail pickup.
And I wanted to thank her myself.
Yeah.
And she's got a very...
We had this...
She's got a little card.
And so we're passing it around.
How do you print?
Is this Helen?
Or how do you...
No, it's doubly.
Holly, Holly, Holly, Holly, Holly, Holly.
We kind of came up with the right
pronunciation of her name.
But it was a very nice little note.
H-O-L-L-E.
This is...
I've got three of them now.
So I don't...
Please, nobody...
Stop sending them.
And I'm going to fly my flag on
Saturday.
I'm going to fly it.
On your flagpole?
On my flagpole, yes.
On my flagpole, exactly.
Am I up?
Christopher Graves in Mount Ockham.
You know who this is?
Christopher Graves?
Yeah.
I've been donating every single week for the
past couple of weeks.
Well, he's in Mount Ockham.
Yeah.
But you'll get it.
You'll get there.
Okay.
In 1875, inventor, he writes, Daniel Peter was
struggling with his candle making business as the
new technologies advanced the creation of the oil
lamp and threatened to make the candle obsolete.
Tell that to Adam when he takes a
bath.
He sat across the dinner table from his
neighbor, Mr. Nestle, who suggested he get into
the chocolate business.
I have a kind of an interesting clip
to play as a bonus clip right after
I read this note.
Daniel Peter would spend a decade creating the
very first milk chocolate.
Today, Little John's Candy...
Oh, I know who it is.
Hello.
Duh.
Little John's Candy still uses Peter's milk chocolate
to cover our world famous English toffees.
In the early 1900s, Peters and Nestle would
open up the first American chocolate factory.
So I guess you could say connection is
protection.
If you agree with these great men, support
a small business and no agenda show, go
to littlejohnscandies.com, not candles, littlejohncandies, and use
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Thank you for the courage, Christopher and the
little John elves.
Don't forget, we'll always wrap gifts for you
at no charge.
So we ate our turkeys, our chocolate turkeys.
How were they?
Dynamite.
They were solid.
You know, I thought it would be hollow
like stuff.
No, they were solid.
The thing weighs a ton.
Yeah, and we're saving our toffees for when
the kids get here.
Christina and Kevin are coming.
So that's what we're going to eat our
toffees.
Well, which I, you know, not to counter
anything.
I hate to play it now.
No, no.
San Francisco sues Big Food.
Yes, big story.
San Francisco has filed the nation's first government
lawsuit against major ultra processed food makers, including
Coca-Cola and Nestle.
Nestle.
Nestle.
The city claims these companies knew their products
were harming public health, but continue to market
them to consumers.
And today's Christina Corona has won the story.
San Francisco has filed a lawsuit against 10
major makers of ultra processed foods, including Kraft
Heinz, Coca-Cola, Nestle and General Mills.
City Attorney David Chu says these products are
addictive and harmful and claims that companies knowingly
marketed them despite health risks.
We're talking about food that is not food,
that is not found in nature, created by
combining artificial chemicals with industrialized processes.
Chu says consumption of these products has created
a major public health crisis with skyrocketing health
care costs.
The industry has created thousands of new chemicals,
which the body metabolizes and craves differently.
And they are designed to be addictive.
He said studies link ultra processed foods to
chronic illnesses, including type 2 diabetes, fatty liver
disease, heart disease and depression, and added the
impact on children has been alarming.
He stated that starting in the 1960s, big
tobacco purchased major food companies, bringing over technology,
marketing strategies and addiction science.
They use big tobacco tactics to research, design
and sell addictive products.
Hold on a second.
When I played a clip from Kali Means
two years ago that made this claim, you
went, that's bull crap.
They didn't do that.
That's not how that happened.
Where is that?
Where's that commentary here?
What's bull crap?
That they use tobacco tactics and marketing.
I don't remember this clip that you're discussing.
OK, they used addiction science and marketing techniques
that followed the big tobacco playbook of creating
the illusion and erosion of consumer choice.
He stated these companies targeted children using cartoon
mascots from Tony the Tiger and Fred Flintstone
to Paw Patrol.
These companies know their products are harming people,
but they continue to design market and profit
off them, particularly at the expense of our
kids.
If I remember correctly, it was the the
context was RJR bought Nabisco and then they
had their food side, their scientists go in
and start making the food addictive.
But I guess it's good enough for court,
but not good enough for this show.
I don't know.
I mean, RJR Nabisco, it became RJR Nabisco.
Yes.
Yeah.
But anyway, it's OK.
I just thought it was interesting that you
pushed back very hard.
I don't remember bitching and moaning.
And I usually do.
I usually remember when I complain.
OK, I'm not I'm not going to pull
it up and do anything embarrassing.
I won't do that.
But I will do it.
Oh, what crap?
Bull crap.
Good for the tobacco companies.
They should go into food companies.
That makes nothing but sense.
At least they got to do something with
their money.
Yeah, that is the opposite of what you
said before.
Sean Holman is in Noblesville, Indiana to 1911.
And he says, God's peace be with us
all.
St. Maria Goretti, pray for us.
Thank you for your courage.
And we go to Linda Lou Patkin already.
Oh, that was quick.
We're done.
Yep.
Now she's in Castle Rock, Colorado.
Did she move?
Oh, that's interesting.
I didn't notice that.
Interesting.
Jobs karma she wants.
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She's a little joke there.
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There you go.
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Well, that concludes our executive and associate executive
producers for episode 1822.
In our 19th year of just being the
best podcast in the universe.
It's wonderful.
Thank you.
We'll be thanking the rest of our financial
supporters.
Fifty dollars and above in our second segment.
Again, congratulations to the executive and associate executive
producers.
Our formula is this.
We go out.
We hit people in the mouth.
Shut up, Steve.
I want to play this two parter here.
From Nilay Patel.
Remember him?
He used to be on Twit a lot.
He's with Nilay.
He was the editor of The Verge.
I think he's still at The Verge, isn't
he?
Yeah, he's he's I don't like him.
No, I'm not a big fan either.
Yeah.
In fact, the last episode I was on
was with Nilay and he was telling me
I was a douche.
No, he called me a racist.
Well, sometimes even a broken clock is right
twice a day.
By the way, The Verge, well known amongst
developers.
If you want to test out a system
with as many tracking systems and ads as
possible, everybody uses theverge.com.
That thing, there must be 500 trackers on
that website.
It's unbelievable.
Unbelievable.
So he was talking to the CEO of
IBM, Arvind Krishna.
Are you familiar?
Yeah, nobody knows who the CEO of IBM
is anymore.
Didn't he used to be the woman?
Yeah.
What happened to her?
She went away.
So, you know, you retire after you cash
out.
So Arvind, you know, like all successful Silicon
Valley companies, which IBM is far from, but
I guess they brought him in like, hey,
if Google's got one of these Indian guys,
we should get one of these Indian guys.
Bring in an Indian guy.
Microsoft's got an Indian guy.
Bring in an Indian guy.
So they brought in Arvind.
And here was his two-part discussion about
artificial intelligence.
Now they'll talk about KGI, which of course
is, you know, they've muddied the waters.
It used to mean artificial general intelligence, meaning
it's actually smart or can think somehow, and
it's not just a computer, you know, picking
up language and hashing it out for you.
And that's now kind of become artificial generative
intelligence, meaning it generates memes and stuff.
But here he is on the expense of
the numbers.
He's a numbers guy.
He's IBM.
He's a numbers guy.
And here he is.
Do you think there's an enterprise ROI that
would justify the spend we have today?
Because I look at it and I say,
absent AGI, this spend might not be worth
it.
At today's costs.
So let's just ground in that because anything
in the future is speculative.
It takes about $80 billion to fill up
a one gigawatt data center.
Okay, that's today's number.
So if you are going to commit 20
to 30 gigawatts, that's one company, that's a
1.5 trillion of CapEx.
And to the point we just made, you
got to use it all in five years,
because at that point you got to throw
it away and refill it, right?
Then if I look at the total, these
things, the total commits in the world on
this space of the changing AGI seem to
you like 100 gigawatts at these announcements.
That's 8 trillion of CapEx.
There's no way you're going to get a
return on that, is my view, because 8
trillion of CapEx means you need roughly 800
billion of profit just to pay for the
interest.
I love this guy with his numbers.
8 trillion of expense to build what they're
talking about.
Yeah, and what he left out, at least
according to my son, is the five-year
turnaround is actually only two to two and
a half years.
For the, you mean the chips to be
renewed?
Yeah, the whole thing fails in two and
a half years and it breaks everybody.
Wow, and that's based on what?
It fails or it's just there's upgrades?
This is just apparently the rate of improvement,
chip improvement plus the failure rate of these
devices.
Oh, they actually fail?
They fail?
Two and a half years, maybe.
They just, they burn out?
Full load.
They just burn out?
They crap out.
They go on the fritz?
They glitch?
Now, Neal, I actually said something funny here,
which is what it starts off with.
Have you told Sam?
Because he seems to think he can get
both the CapEx and the return.
I got it, but that's a belief.
It's a belief that one company is going
to be the only company that gets the
entire market.
I think it's fine.
I mean, like they're chasing it.
Some people will make money.
Some people will lose money.
And all the infrastructure being built will be
useful if it goes away.
But if they make it, then they are
the sole surviving company.
I am not convinced, or rather I give
it really low odds, like we're talking zero
to one percent, that the current set of
known technologies gets us to AGI.
That's my bigger gap.
I think that this current set is great.
I think it's incredibly useful for the enterprise.
I think it's going to unlock trillions of
dollars of productivity in the enterprise.
That said, I think AGI will require more
technologies than the current LLM path.
I think it will require fusing knowledge with
LLMs. And we have words.
I'm not sure that's the only way to
create knowledge.
People talk about neuro-symbolic AI.
But I think if I just say knowledge
in a broader sense, hard knowledge that people
have spent thousands of years discovering, if we
can figure out a way to fuse knowledge
with LLMs, maybe.
Yeah.
That doesn't sound very optimistic.
One of our producers sent me a note,
and I guess he had some connection to
NVIDIA, and he says that my discussion, based
on, again, my son's connections with NVIDIA since
he worked there, was that they've studied this
and they can't find any real productivity gains
from AI.
And this guy said, yeah, that's what we're
turning up to.
Yeah.
No, there's none.
There's no productivity gains.
I try all the time.
I mean, I've built stuff with it, but
it's always the same thing.
Just say, like, so I was building a
slide deck, and I was surprised because Gemini
actually created slides.
I'm like, well, you know, I just wanted
an outline or something, and I got slides
with pictures.
I'm like, this is amazing.
And then I say, this is all good,
except slide number seven, please replace that person
with a middle-aged white woman looking very
distressed.
And it subsequently deleted all the pictures and
changed the words of everything.
You go back, try it again.
It cannot iterate.
It's incapable of doing it.
I think that's the same with the artwork.
And I know that Darren, he must try
prompts over and over, because you can't say,
change what you just did.
No, you've got to just change your whole
prompt.
No, you've got to nail it.
And then hope for the best.
You can't nail it.
There's no consistency.
Darren nails it a lot.
Yeah, well, Darren.
Darren is an amazing man.
So on the AI tip, I was listening
to Joe Rogan.
He even did a Broadway tune for us
in today's End of Show mix.
Which is Dynamite.
It sounds like a Broadway tune.
It does.
It's for the No Agenda the musical, soon
to take over all of Broadway.
Yeah, pack them in.
So Joe Rogan was being interviewed.
Doesn't happen often, but he does them from
time to time.
And Joe, of course, is good friends with
Elon.
So he believes, I think Joe really believes
in AI.
But he's also been going to church.
And he's been exploring Jesus and his faith,
which he's talked about quite openly.
And this is the frightening conclusion and result
of those two things.
So if you're going to get the most
brilliant, loving, powerful person that gives us advice
and can show us how to live to
be in sync with God.
Who better than artificial intelligence to do that?
If Jesus does return, even if Jesus was
a physical person in the past, you don't
think that he could return as artificial intelligence?
Oh my God.
Artificial intelligence could absolutely return as Jesus.
Not just return as Jesus, but return as
Jesus with all the powers of Jesus.
Like all the magic tricks, all the ability
to bring people back from the dead, walk
on water, levitation.
Okay, there's a lot of things here.
Forbin, the Colossus, Colossus Forbin project.
But he actually says something different, which I'm
only hearing this now.
Listen to what I thought he was saying.
If Jesus would come back, he could come
back as artificial intelligence.
He actually says this.
Who better than artificial intelligence to do that?
If Jesus does return, even if Jesus was
a physical person in the past, you don't
think that he could return as artificial intelligence?
And he kind of messes it up there.
Then he talks about some magic tricks.
So the only thing I would say is,
if God could talk to Balaam through a
donkey, yeah, it's possible.
But I wouldn't bet on it.
I'd be very careful.
People thinking they discovered Jesus through their AI.
The Antichrist awaits.
Apparently, is Perplexity sponsoring Joe's show?
I think I just saw that come by.
I didn't know this.
I don't think they sponsor anything.
Well, I think I just saw that pass
by in the troll room.
And the trolls have been on point today.
So it may be right.
Anyway, that guy has to talk to Joe.
Oh, man.
Boy, oh, boy.
I see you got the same stories I
did about Australia and the kids.
Well, they're banned.
My story.
Well, yes.
But I thought mine had a kicker.
Okay.
I don't know if yours does.
No, I'll play yours.
And if it doesn't kick the way mine
does.
The ban comes into place on December 10.
And all four children under 16.
Stop.
They put a ban in place on all
social media in Australia.
No, no.
Well, wait, let me finish.
And so now they're going to require age
verification and all this stuff.
Because their kids are never going to do
it.
The ban is 16 and under.
That's the ban.
Yeah, it's a ban.
It's a ban on all social media.
It's a ban.
16 years and under.
Yeah.
It's an important distinction.
You said a ban on all social media.
Yeah.
Well, you never let me finish.
You interrupted me with a no, no, no.
But there's a ban on social media with
an age limit.
But there's a kicker.
Okay.
The ban comes into place on December 10.
And all four children under 16 off Facebook,
Instagram, Snapchat, everything.
TikTok, X, Threads, Reddit, Twitch, Tik, even YouTube.
So under 16s won't be able to be
on YouTube.
But there is a social media site they
can still use.
The toxic leftist lunatic asylum called Blue Sky
is not covered under the ban.
Adam and even Dr. Nick Coatsworth, hardly a
right-wing reactionary, is asking why.
I mean, this just is incredible that this
is being allowed to happen, the coalition together
with Labor.
And this was a coalition policy.
This was what appeared to be some sort
of genius ideas.
But they can't see the unintended consequences of
limiting people's access to information.
Yeah, well, obviously, Blue Sky is very pro
-left generally.
So that just shows that this is a
political, you know, the rationale behind this is
actually political.
In part, they don't like children getting access
to certain ideas.
I don't think it's about images so much,
because I think I was reading recently, they
can still get to various pornographic websites.
Well, let me say this about that.
Blue Sky, you could argue that it's on
equal footing with Mastodon.
Yes, which also is not banned.
Wow, holy crap.
Christina is texting me.
She says, oh, dad, you have no idea
what everybody just received in the mail.
I'm gonna try and translate this on the
fly.
My newsletter?
It's an official government brochure.
It has a family on the front.
It's drawn with a dog looking kind of
sad and a kid putting cans into a
box.
And it says, save me in a safe
place.
Be prepared for an emergency situation.
And it says, I'm looking up.
You need to prepare for an emergency that
could last up to 72 hours.
Because the electricity could go out.
What would you do if the electricity went
out for 72 hours?
Isn't this interesting?
This happens right when they cancel all the
Russian gas contracts.
And this is crazy.
What will you do?
And get your go bag.
Oh, yeah, go bag in here.
Oh, yeah.
What do you need?
You need food, hygiene.
They got some candles here.
Something to keep warm.
Flashlight.
Candles.
They have candles.
You need candles, toothbrush, a radio with batteries.
Good luck.
Wow.
Wow.
This is nuts.
I got to get her out of there.
I've got to.
I don't think it's because of the Russian
gas.
It's because of the Jews who are retaliating
against them being cut out of the Eurovision
contest.
It's the Jews, man.
It's the Jews.
Yeah, I think you're right.
Yeah, I think you're right.
Spot on.
Well, in America, we're not worried about things
like that.
We don't have young people worrying about 72
hours without electricity.
No, we have things that they need to
worry about.
Like, did I lose my prop bet?
In tonight's Eye on America, we're looking at
a form of online betting that's rapidly growing
in popularity.
That's market trading with predictions where you can
invest in the outcome of real world events.
Invest.
Joel Holsinger just quit his day job to
bet on anything.
Like if Federal Reserve Chair Jerome Powell will
say the word pardon in a press conference.
Our thinking was, wait, pardon me.
I streamed and watched the speech live.
Powell coughed and said, pardon me.
And, you know, I made $500.
From his computer, the 26 year old says
he makes about $3,000 a week trading
on the prediction market, Kelshi.
Kelshi lets you legally trade on anything, anywhere
in the U.S. Thanks to companies like
Kelshi, Polymarket and Predict It, betting on anything
from elections to Taylor Swift has never been
easier.
Man, I had no idea it was like
this.
Oh, yeah.
And some of the brokerage companies like Interactive,
for example, has opened up a system that
does this.
Interactive Brokers.
So you can bet on whether the prime,
I don't know if they have the prop
bets like that, because that's pretty specific.
But they have the bets.
You bet on whether the interest rates next
week's meeting is going to be dropped 0
.25 or not.
It's like you bet a dollar, you win
10 cents if you think it's going to
be dropped because everyone thinks it's going to
be dropped.
It's 1 to 10?
For that particular bet.
Yeah.
Okay.
Huh.
I got to get into this.
If it doesn't get dropped, you bet one,
I think you make like a buck 50
on top of the one.
So you get some $2 plus $2 plus
something.
No, this is ridiculous.
This is gambling.
It's just like I remember when I was
in college, there was this group of veteran
gamblers who had, they just lived together.
They were betting on everything.
We went out with a group of them.
These guys, they were degenerates.
And it was like you go in their
place, they had a sign over the fireplace
that says, God is unemployed.
That was the theme of the place.
And one guy had to get, I swear,
one guy had to get his jacket.
And while they were waiting for him to
come back with his jacket, the two guys
are flipping quarters to see who, you know,
heads.
Okay, here's your quarter.
And they couldn't, they were just gambling.
They're horrible.
It's just a terrible thing to be addicted
to.
I mean, it's unbelievable.
And in fact, this incursion should be illegal.
Well, they have the CEO on the show.
What is a prediction market?
So the prediction market is like the stock
market.
But instead of buying and selling companies, you're
buying yes or no on whether something is
going to happen or not.
Tarek Mansour and Luana Lopez-Lara are the
co-founders of Kelshi.
People can make money on what they know,
actually monetize their knowledge, monetize their hobby.
Kelshi's users trade an average of a billion
dollars a week, banking heavily on sports.
You can bet on things that a traditional
sports book would offer you.
Which is a concern for author Jonathan Cohen,
who has chronicled the rise of sports betting
in the U.S. So you think this
is just gambling?
Yes.
But Kelshi is not regulated like gambling.
And several states have sued, alleging the platform
offers unlawful sports wagering.
And unlike most sports betting sites, users can
also bet on games in other financial apps,
which hold investments like retirement accounts.
In the same app that you use to
manage your 401k or your stock portfolio, you
can like bet on the Jets game.
Creating more risk that some bettors could drain
those savings.
That friction is gone.
You can gamble on sports and you can
gamble away like your life savings.
And while federal regulations on prediction markets are
rapidly evolving, both Kelshi and its main competitor,
PolyMarket, have brought on a new strategic advisor,
the president's eldest son, Donald Trump Jr. Does
he come to meetings?
How much do you pay him?
What's his role?
I mean, this is the son of the
president.
I mean, we have a lot of advisors.
And whether it's our investors, whether it's people
that we really trust and respect.
But he's not just any advisor.
He's a direct line to the White House.
We have a lot of advisors.
While Kelshi's CEO did not answer that question,
one thing is clear.
Kelshi believes the popularity of online betting is
just kicking off.
Well, here's what I learned.
We need to become advisors.
And the Curry Dvorak advisory group is ready
to advise you in exchange for shares and
cash on anything you've got going.
And we're good.
Yeah, we're good.
People should be calling us tomorrow.
And we still have some producers to thank.
Over $50 and under $200.
And Adam's going to run through them as
we listen.
We're going to listen.
Well, we're speaking and I'm speaking and you
should be listening.
Yes, thank you very much to these producers
who supported us.
Every single amount is valuable to us.
It is value for value.
Only you can determine what equals the value
in monetary form that you get out of
the show.
And Stephen Kirkpatrick from Langley, Washington said $119
.21. And we thank him for that.
Leroy Pacheco in Santa Fe, New Mexico, 105
.35. He says, thank you for keeping me
informed and entertained.
Kevin Jackson from Kemah, Texas.
This must be with fees.
105.35. Julie Herbort in Fredericksburg.
Julie, do I know Julie?
Yeah.
I must know Julie.
She's in Fredericksburg, Texas.
Well, I know a lot of Julies.
I don't know everybody's last.
I'm horrible at names.
Thank you, Julie.
See you at the meeting.
Baron Ladeken.
Oh, haven't seen him in a while.
He's from Houston.
$100.
Brady Kessler from Lee's Summit, Missouri.
$100.
Sir F.A. Ion Beck, Vista, California.
$100.
Tobiaston Real Estate Services in Gardner, Kansas.
For all your real estate servicing needs.
$88.08. Glenn Spangler from Roseville, Michigan.
$84.38. And there's Kevin McLaughlin, the Archduke
of Duna.
Luna, a lover of America and boobs.
With $8008 for episode 1822.
He comes in every single show and he
says, I love America and boobs.
Not necessarily always in that order.
Edward Owens jumps on the bandwagon with a
boob donation.
$8008.
From Alameda, California.
Brian Reyna, Keensburg, New Jersey.
$76.54. Oh, I see what you did.
$76.54. Dame Dana, Laughlin, Nevada.
$72.27. Oh, palindrome.
Pete Lachance in Oviedo, Florida.
Oviedo, Florida.
Pete Lachance.
And he comes in with $69.96. God
bless Adam and John.
Thank you for all you do.
Puppy Chow from Christian Gruelich with $67.67.
Les Tarkowski from Kingman, Arizona.
Small boob, $6.006. Sander, this is, oh,
he's from Holland.
So Sander Glasenburg, $55.55. Brian Furley, $55
.01. Double nickels on the dime.
Double nickels on the dime.
Also from Jonathan Farris and SirBecomingHeroic.
And Christopher Burke from St. Paul, Minnesota.
Let me show you.
Did you get Brian Furley?
Yes, I did.
Okay, sorry.
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I've never not received a newsletter using Outlook
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Not everyone can say that.
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things.
Plenty of Outlook people didn't get it.
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Today, we have the 805 Rooftop Meetup, four
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Beth.
Yes, that is today.
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Saints and scholars.
Yes, this is the evening when all the
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and stick them in the bag and take
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It's a weird country.
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And to wind it out on our next
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That's at McSorley's Wonderful Saloon and Grill in
Toronto, Ontario, Canada.
Just a few of the many meetups that
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Put it over there at noagendameetups.com.
And for those of you who heard the
call and went, you know, I should probably
stick around past those donation segments because there's
a lot of fun stuff that happens.
And sound effects, there's all kinds of groovy
stuff.
This is where we select our end of
show ISOs, which is just kind of a
fun thing we do.
And I get real people.
And John practices his AI prompting, which he's
doing on the free tier of 11 Labs,
which, yeah, it's always the same guy with
whatever.
No, I got a new person.
Whatever Marty came up with.
Oh, Johnny.
No, Marty doesn't write these.
Here's mine too.
I've lost faith in Wall Street.
That's no good.
How about this one?
They have large wieners.
Yeah, that's a good one.
They have large wieners.
That's my end of show ISO idea.
Kind of like the second one.
Yes.
They have large wieners.
Okay, let's go.
I have two with a new person.
Yeah.
I've never used this voice before.
Sizzled.
That show sizzled.
That'd be a good combo with large wieners.
That show sizzled.
They have large wieners.
Let's hear your other one just in case.
Yeah.
Too long.
Good show, but too long.
No, I think we have a winner here.
I think.
That show sizzled.
They have large wieners.
Yeah, baby.
That's who we're going with.
Hey, but first it's time for John's tip
of the day.
This is an obscure tip for you, connoisseurs
of champagne.
A lot of people don't know this.
Oh, I love champagne.
I love the bubbly, man.
I love the bubbly.
On every bottle of champagne, there's a code,
two-letter code that tells you what kind
of champagne it really is.
Oh.
And it appears usually at the very bottom
of the label.
And it's like two-point type.
And it consists of two letters, usually a
number and then some name.
Anything can follow that.
But these two letters are the important part.
And these two letters are, for example, there's
a bunch of them.
I think there's eight different ones that are
possible.
There's only two or three that are important
to know.
If it says, because everyone's talking about it,
maybe this is the tip of the day
really, is grower's champagne.
Oh.
Grower's champagne is always touted as, ugh, you
know.
It's the best.
Grower's champagne is the champagne made by the
grower who grew the grapes makes the wine.
Yes.
This is not usual.
Most champagnes are made by a large manufacturing
company like Bollinger.
And they buy, they have these contracts with
all these growers.
And they get all the champagne grapes in.
They have a superstar winemaker.
And they make a really good product.
It should always cost more for that wine
than it does for the grower's champagne.
Grower's champagne should be cheaper.
Oh, I always thought the grower's champagne was
more exclusive.
It's more exclusive in smaller quantities.
But it should be cheaper.
And anyone who's marking, but some of these
guys, these importers will mark it up.
But grower's champagne is generally cheaper and should
be.
And here's how you can tell.
But the little two letters at the bottom
of the champagne bottle, you'll see, it's either
going to say N.M. or R.M.
It's good.
This is two letters.
And the N.M. means the negotiant manipulant.
That means the guy who bought the grapes
and made the wine.
R.M. is a recoltant manipulant.
And that's the guy who harvested, recoltant, that
means the harvester.
So he grew the grapes.
So you look for R.M. You see
R.M. at the bottom.
That means it's a grower's champagne, which is
everyone touts.
Oh, grower's champagne.
Well, now I'm confused.
It's hard to be as good as Bollinger,
but some of them, the chief, they have
different flavor.
They're just slightly, they're more authentic.
Let's put it that way.
Okay.
So now I have a question.
So just just to read it.
R.M. is the grower's champagne.
Right.
Recoltant manipulant.
Yes.
Yeah.
Okay.
So Romeo Mike.
Because Romeo Mike.
So what I'd like to do is say,
you know, this has R.M. on it.
This is a grower's champagne.
Yeah, you could do that.
This is, this is, this is the source
of the Bollinger.
This is right from the guy's hands.
Bollinger is never going to be a grower's
champagne.
Bollinger is N.M. I said, this is
the source.
Oh, yeah.
You could say that.
It's the source.
The guy's wife stomped the grapes with his
bare feet.
You're going to love this champagne.
You could do that.
Yeah.
If you were a sommelier and wanted to
bullshit somebody.
Yeah, I'm a B.S. I'm a bullshit.
Now, the other just just for the record,
there's a there's a six other designations.
And one if you get it contains the
letter C, there's C.M. And R.C.
C means it's a co-op wine.
Oh, this is like cheap jack.
It's like.
No, see, the thing is about wines in
France.
They're usually really good.
They have a really good wine.
You just don't like co-op stuff here
in the United States.
French are very dedicated to communist country.
Oh, there you go.
And they love the co-op stuff.
And so they make a co-op wine
with different labels on it.
And they put, you know, it could be
anybody's product.
So they look for the co-op ones.
Those are usually really cheap.
And then there's one you should look for,
which is a like if you bought a
Costco says Costco Kirkland champagne, it probably have
the letters M.A., which means it's just
a it's marketing.
We should be business marketing.
It's not there or anything.
Who knows?
They just put their label on it.
It's just a white label.
White label.
Yeah.
And it means mark the mark of mark
of the sales company.
Mark that I should do the sales guy.
So it's a sales price is champagne marketed
by a third party.
Now you look up champagne codes in Google
and you'll get the whole list and you
can see what you're doing.
So you can have some knowledge.
This is the only area in France that
does this little code.
And it's very valuable.
And can you just tell us what code
you think is the best?
Well, I like the the grower champagnes.
So I would go with the R.M.
because it's cheaper, generally cheaper.
I mean, you can get the superstar products
are usually very expensive.
But R.M. should be cheaper.
Should they should be?
I've seen them as cheap.
You can get 30 dollars champagne with R
.M. as you get to go to the
right event.
And I would say this is a very
valuable tip for those of you who stayed
all the way through the program.
Congratulations.
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Get informed at tip of the day dot
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I love those tips, John.
Are you going to do the knife soon?
People want the knives coming.
The knives are harder than you think.
No, I'm but I'm ready.
I'm ready to buy.
I want a good knife.
OK, next tip of the day will be
the knife is coming.
What is coming next on your no agenda
stream is a walk through the mind.
I don't even know this show.
I walk through the mind.
OK, I'll I'll stay and listen.
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