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The really moon bases.
Adam Curry, John C.
Dvorak.
It's Sunday, December 21st, 2025.
This is your award-winning Gilmore Nation Media
assassination episode 1827.
This is no agenda.
Fully redacted and broadcasting live from the heart
of the Texas Hill Country here in FEMA
Region Number 6 in the morning, everybody.
I'm Adam Curry.
And from northern Silicon Valley where the weather
is inclement, I'm John C.
Dvorak.
It's Crackpot and Buzzkill in the morning!
Yes, inclement weather, inclement weather.
Does that mean it's kind of grey?
It's wet.
Wet and grey.
Beautiful here today.
68 degrees, blue sky, no chemtrails.
Just perfect.
Just perfect.
Perfect for a day of media deconstruction.
Sounds like it.
Oh, man.
So much to talk about.
Epstein, Epstein, Epstein.
Oh, no, Epstein.
Oh, but Epstein.
Is anyone really surprised that there was nothing
there?
Why are people so mad?
Because they...
Well, I have a couple of reports and
the thing's obvious that...
that the only reason they wanted Epstein stuff...
In fact, this was, I think, from the
BBC.
Epstein.
If you listen to the report from the...
Actually, PBS.
Listen to the report.
PBS won this clip.
You can tell why...
The only reason for the whole inquisition about
the Epstein files is revealed right here.
Overnight, the Justice Department released hundreds more heavily
redacted pages of material it had gathered on
convicted sex offender Jeffrey Epstein.
Still, what's been made public so far falls
well short of the full disclosure required by
the law Congress passed last month.
These new releases come in addition to the
thousands of pages of photos, correspondence, and other
material released on Friday afternoon, and the Justice
Department says there will be much more to
come in the coming weeks.
Among the latest batch released around midnight is
a phone message slip that reads, She has
females for Mr. J.E. Jeff Mason is
a White House correspondent for Reuters.
Jeff, these new files, the files even though
were released yesterday, tell us a lot about,
more detail about Jeffrey Epstein.
But does it tell us anything about his
relationship with Donald Trump, with President Trump?
Get to it, get to it, get to
it.
I have a couple of...
There's two more clips, but before we play
that, did you see Clinton's response to this
when he was interviewed on one of the
shows?
No, I didn't.
Yeah, here's Clinton on Epstein.
Listen to this.
Democrats thought they could finally get Trump with
the Epstein files.
But instead, all they got was pictures of
you buck naked in the jacuzzi with some
girls.
Aren't you afraid of being arrested?
Well, to be honest, I'm more afraid of
that crazy bitch waiting for me back home.
I'm not going back.
That bitch kills people.
She even killed Jeffrey.
Fuck that.
Can I stay at your place?
Okay, let's just slow down a bit.
Okay, all right.
Even that AI stuff is getting a little
old, and it wasn't all that good.
No, I agree, it wasn't that good, but
I thought I'd slip it in.
By the way, he wasn't buck naked, he
was wearing swimming trunks.
You can obviously see them.
Yeah, I'm glad you corrected the AI on
that.
Yeah, well, wherever you rip that off of,
whatever hilarious podcast that put that together and
slaved over it.
Okay, back to PBS and Trump.
Very little, and that's one thing that people
were maybe anticipating getting more information on, but
the files have some mentions of Trump and
some conversations, but no photos.
One of the pieces of evidence that people
were expecting was not in the release.
And in general, the files were focused on
other people in Jeffrey Epstein's orbit and not
the current president of the United States.
Even with that, this is now going to
be spread out over several weeks.
It's not going to be a one-day
story, one-day headline.
Does the White House have a strategy to
deal with that?
Well, their strategy so far has been largely
to say, A, that they are being very
transparent by doing this document release and following
the law.
A statement from a White House spokeswoman yesterday
pretty much said just that and accused Democrats
of not answering questions about their connections with
Jeffrey Epstein.
I think broadly, the White House would be
happy for this whole issue to go away,
and that is evidenced by the fact that
President Trump spent months trying to prevent these
documents from coming out.
That led to a lot of discord within
his MAGA base and led to some divisions
within Congress amongst Republicans.
In the end, they ended up passing this
law and the president signed it.
But some Democrats and, in fact, at least
one Republican are saying that the administration did
not follow the law with its limited release
on Friday.
Oh, brother.
Don't they understand how this works by now?
Like, of course you don't put everything out.
You give them the first stuff, everyone's disappointed,
following the law, victims are protected.
What's a victim?
Not defined.
Anybody can be a victim.
And they put Copperfield in there, they got
all the people they wanted, Luke Brunel, Jean
-Luc Brunel.
It's like, what were you expecting?
An entire trove of pictures of these dudes
having sex with kids?
I want to see the videotapes.
I don't care what you say.
There's victims in those videotapes.
You can't show that.
Now, I think I know what's going on
here, but I'll wait until you're finished with
your series.
Well, let's just play clip three and then
what?
Then, then.
Well, one of those Republicans is the co
-sponsor, Representative Thomas Massey of Kentucky.
He tweeted today that the release grossly fails
to comply with the law.
What can they do?
Can they go to court and sue over
this?
Well, that's a good question.
I don't know if that's something that they're
thinking of doing.
Certainly, I do know because this is what
the Justice Department has said, is that they're
planning to release more, but they are saying
that there are so many things that have
to go through that they just couldn't basically
do it all in one batch, but that
there will be multiple additional batches coming.
But as you say, even the co-sponsor
of the bill on the Republican side, Congressman
Massey is upset about that.
And also, these documents are so heavily redacted,
there are some pages that are just totally
black from being blacked out, inked out.
Is anybody talking about that or complaining about
that?
Yes, there are concerns about that.
I think in one case, there were 100
pages of grand jury testimony that were redacted.
Now, the law allows the Justice Department to
release some of the files with redactions in
specific instances with regard to victims of Jeffrey
Epstein's crimes, with regard to abuse.
But the amount of the redactions surprised people
who were expecting to get more information than
they felt they received.
And the law actually says they can't redact
to protect the reputation of anybody.
Do we have any idea when these additional
files are going to be released in the
future?
All we know is that they'll be coming
out in batches in the coming weeks.
So I would expect that journalists like ourselves
will be watching this story over the holidays
and probably well past that.
And some of the questions that people were
hoping to get answered in this first batch
are the ones that will continue to be
asked in terms of connections that other people
had and knowledge that other people had of
Jeffrey Epstein and his crimes.
Batches, batches, lots of batches.
I mean, this was the obvious result to
be expected, but they're going a little bit
further.
Let's just troll everybody a little bit more.
Oh, no, no.
We'll take that one down.
Oh, no.
16 are gone.
What's going on?
They were all Trump.
Tonight, questions for the Department of Justice around
their initial release of the Jeffrey Epstein files.
More than a dozen photos that were available
on the DOJ site Friday and disappeared without
explanation, including a photo of President Donald Trump
with a few examples of Trump appearing in
the document's release.
NBC News has asked DOJ why the files
were deleted and have not heard back.
It comes as the Department of Justice released
never-before-seen grand jury testimony, including from
a witness who described how Epstein and his
partner, Ghislaine Maxwell, lured her into their orbit.
The unnamed victim recalling a situation in 2005
where at the age of 14, Epstein convinced
her to give him a massage for $200.
$200!
The massage quickly turned sexual, and she was
told, quote, the more you do, the more
you make.
Stories like this, a reminder of the horror
of Epstein's
crimes for the survivors demanding transparency.
Some saying, at this point, they feel like
it's not enough.
It failed in our book.
We haven't received full transparency.
It's heavily redacted, and it's an incomplete release
of the files.
Some Republicans, Democrats, and survivors are warning the
DOJ that they're not living up to the
law passed almost unanimously by Congress.
The department says they'll release all the files
within the next two weeks.
An NBC News analysis of the material shows
that in the first release, more than 680
pages have been redacted.
So no surprise at all that we saw
heavy redactions from DOJ because they had a
lot of editorial discretion in this case.
But Congress believes they deserve an explanation and
plan to keep the pressure on the DOJ
to make sure everything that should be made
public is.
I do think there's more here, and it's
worth more investigations to get to the bottom
of this and put this to rest and
respect the victims.
No.
Massey and Ro-corana, what do we call
them?
Ro-cana.
Corana.
Ro-corana.
That's even better.
Corana.
They wrote this law.
I mean, if you look at the law,
this was the obvious result that was going
to take place.
I don't know if they're in on the
gag here.
By the way, they're not batches.
I'm surprised that PBS doesn't know what they're
actually called.
They did dumps.
They call them dumps.
Big, massive dumps.
Dumps.
Not batches.
Dumps, you dummies.
So a couple of things about the law.
If you don't write the law with enforcement...
Like penalties.
Within the law.
Penalties and enforcement, like creating an agency to
enforce the law or a group or somebody.
Nothing's going to happen.
Nothing's going to happen.
So it should have had an enforcement clause.
This has to be enforced in such a
way by such and such a person.
And the penalties for not following the law
would be 15 years in prison and blah,
blah, blah, whatever.
They didn't put that in there.
If that's not in there, what's the point?
Well, the point was is to do exactly
what's happening now.
We need to continue.
This has to keep going for, I don't
know, maybe we could keep it going for
another six months.
Get it a little closer to the midterms.
Then roll out the last batch.
Dump, dump, massive dump.
I'm convinced that Mike Benz, this some form
of limited hangout, I know I said it,
and maybe not knowingly, but he did a
five-hour, what he calls a super stream.
I'm doing a super stream, everybody.
Have you ever seen that guy?
I have seen him, yes.
I mentioned him somewhere, and I got condemned
for mentioning him.
By whom?
Somebody who condemned me, I don't know.
Oh, a condemner.
Well, that's no good.
And here's the way Mike Benz, I've solved
it.
Okay, I'll watch your super stream then, which
I did.
And I think he got the right information,
and he's on the right track.
His thesis, which he can back up with
quite a lot of, at least evidence that
puts Epstein in the right place at the
right time, is that he was much more
of like a strategic middleman.
And he was doing this back in the
day.
Well, a little bit, yeah, probably back in
the day.
We had BCCI.
Now, I don't know if everybody remembers the
Bank of Credit and Commerce International, BCCI, which
had this spectacular collapse, as it turned out,
that what this bank was, besides it being
pretty much a Ponzi scheme, what they were
doing is they were laundering money for intelligence
agencies, certainly for the CIA, MI6.
I think, I don't know, was Mossad in
there as well?
Everybody.
I don't remember if Mossad was involved.
There was a great movie about it called,
was it The Internationalist?
It was called The International.
Oh, The International.
There you go, The International.
And so if you needed to arm the
movie.
It's a great movie, by the way.
It's a fun movie.
It's a great movie to watch, and it's
based on facts, truth, real story.
Real story.
Kind of.
Okay.
So if you wanted to arm the Mujahideen,
then you'd send the money through BCCI, and
BCCI would take care of everything.
Now, on the U.S. side, for our
intelligence agencies, in order to move some of
that money around, we had Bear Stearns.
This is where Jeffrey Epstein all of a
sudden becomes the rising star.
Doesn't matter how much he steals from his
expense account.
He's a protected man within the bank, and
he's moving money around.
This was his talent.
His talent was making all the connections, making
sure everything worked, getting the money in, moving
it around.
Eventually, he moves out to Epstein Island, not
for privacy, for his little sexcapades.
And by the way, he was sick.
He definitely, he was into all this stuff.
So I'm sure there's all kinds of ancillary
hanky-panky stuff going on, and some blackmail,
possibly.
But he also had a bank, the Virgin
Islands.
So he now could move money back and
forth.
No scrutiny.
It would seem North Sea Nexus kind of
like, but not that I want to draw
that in per se because it was really
for our intelligence.
Remember, when they were prosecuted, you're writing him
up for the first prosecution.
Oh, no, this guy, he belongs to intelligence.
Yeah, he belongs to intelligence.
He's moving the money.
And how do you do that?
Well, you get rich people to hang around
you, and rich people love hanging around really
rich people, and they love doing dumb rich
people things.
And yeah, cool dentist chair.
I got some ideas what we can do
with that.
Once you're that wealthy, you just become ill
and sick and people with power.
But that was his game.
Then we have 2008, Bear Stearns collapses.
Weren't they the only one that collapsed?
No, Lehman Brothers.
Lehman as well.
So everything had to be moved over to
another bank, and that was J.P. Morgan.
And that makes total sense in Mike Benz's
SuperStream story because there's all these suspicious activity
reports, 800,000 here, a couple million there.
We don't know where it's going.
We need some cash.
Pay that person.
For all we know, some of these women
involved were carrying cash.
I think that is much more likely to
be the real story, and maybe this will
come to light.
It seems kind of doubtful.
But the fact that Mike Benz was putting
this together on a SuperStream at the same
time these batches were coming out, I think
that's the real story.
I just don't see, and if you really
think about it, the whole pedophiles started, it
really was an online thing.
There was never any evidence for it.
It came on the heels of Pizzagate, and
there's definitely creepy people involved in Pizzagate, the
Podesta brothers, very creepy, absolutely.
And then we just had, then it was
the Democrats.
All the Democrats are pedophiles, and Trump.
I like the idea of a pedophile cover
for a bank scam.
I think it's a good one.
Yeah, because it draws all your attention.
Well, it certainly has.
And, of course, all we want to see
is Trump being a pedophile.
That's all we want to see.
So none of it really seems to pan
out ever.
But maybe someone will be unmasked, uncovered.
It seems unlikely because what PR value does
that even have?
Would people even care?
Oh, what, he was laundering money for us
to pay, you know, arm the Mujahideen or
the Iran-Contras?
That's boring.
Show me the pizza!
It is boring.
Show me the pizza!
It's true.
No, it's not interesting.
No, and, of course, Trump can't get a
district attorney appointed at the moment.
Everyone's stopping stuff.
So I think that this is just going
to keep on going.
Hopefully there's some sacrificial lamb somewhere along the
line at the end that we can point
to just before the midterms.
I think that's what the ultimate idea would
be.
And it makes a lot of sense with
Maxwell.
You know, that was her family business was
doing that stuff.
With Adnan Khashoggi, by the way.
Familiar name?
Khashoggi?
Yeah, the guy they shot.
Yeah, but his dad was the international arms
dealer.
Yeah, one of the world's richest men.
Yeah, buddies with Maxwell.
So all of that kind of fits in
a lot better than anything else.
And, of course, when you have this kind
of money and, you know, Epstein had to
have his own cover.
Well, I'm an international financier.
But what does that mean?
Well, I finance things internationally.
What do you finance?
Oh, science?
MIT Media Lab?
No, he's a bag man.
He's just a bag man.
And he probably did a really good job.
I'm still surprised we don't have anything from
Zorro Ranch that seems like that's something that's
missing.
No one ever talks about it.
Zorro Ranch, it seems like that was the
real ground zero.
The thing that bothers me the most is
that he always seemed to be, you know,
never seemed to be the head guy.
And Wexler never comes up in the conversation.
Ever.
No.
And Wexler has to be one of the
main players here because he's the one who
put the house together.
And who knows what else he did.
Totally could be part of some Moscow organization.
It was Wexler's property in New York that
Epstein lived in.
Yes.
Yeah.
So, but we're also, and you remember, then
we got the Wayfair.
Remember?
Oh, Wayfair.
They're shipping kids in boxes.
You remember that?
No, I don't remember that.
You know what Wayfair is?
Wayfair is the furniture company, the furniture email
company.
Yeah, the furniture company that make cheap furniture.
Yeah, and they would say, look at this
cabinet.
It's priced at $99,000.
There's a kid inside.
That's why.
I can't.
That's funny.
You don't remember that.
I don't remember that.
That was a big thing.
I wonder, do we still have.
Did we do clips on it?
Did we even talk about it?
Yeah, we definitely talked about it.
Let me see.
Wayfair.
Find me a clip.
I don't know.
I don't seem to have anything.
I'm pretty sure we did something on it.
Anyway, meanwhile, what no one's talking about is
Operation Relentless Justice, which was announced on Friday.
205 child victims located.
293 child sex abuse offenders arrested.
A nationwide crackdown.
Seems like that's kind of important.
You didn't even hear about it.
No, the mainstream media is focused on Epstein
and Trump.
Yeah, and this was Texas, Raleigh, North Carolina,
Miami.
Greggy's cult.
I mean, these are all good names.
Yeah, they can't.
They don't want to.
I hate to say this, but it seems
to be a fact.
They really don't want to even bring it
up because it makes them look bad because
they're supporting, you know, the idea that ICE
are bad people and they should be protested
against.
And let's keep it at that.
Yeah.
So I think this will just carry on.
They'll continue to wait for something on Trump.
They're like morons.
They're really dumb.
And we'll see.
So CBS did say that there were videos
released.
Did you see?
Were there no videos that anybody saw?
I didn't see any videos.
Photos tonight of many of the powerful who
ran and convicted sex offender Jeffrey Epstein's circle.
Bill Clinton seems swimming in a pool with
Ghislaine Maxwell and another woman with her face
redacted.
Clinton with another unknown woman on his lap.
Celebrities, too, including Michael Jackson and Diana Ross.
Epstein with Mick Jagger and Chris Tucker with
Maxwell.
Many of the records are heavily redacted, and
survivors say suspiciously so, including Epstein grand jury
records.
We do see Epstein's book of contacts with
the name of President Trump, his late wife,
and his daughter, Ivanka.
A list of girls or young women listed
as masseuses keeps the names private but shows
there were more than 250.
How confident are you at the end of
the day, at the end of this period,
you'll get everything?
I don't feel tremendously confident that everything will
come out.
Survivors, including Annie Farmer, have been fighting for
years for the release of records and say
they're frustrated these records are incomplete.
There's been a lot of effort and money
and time put into redactions not to protect
victims but to protect people in power.
So these two people, you only hear the
woman talking, she is a family member of
Virginia Guilfrey, and they both have giant monarch
butterfly pins on their sweaters during this interview.
We know what that means.
Wow, that's pretty peculiar.
MKUltra.
It's meant to trigger.
That's a symbol, yeah, but what is the
connection there?
MKUltra!
Yeah, I know, but what are they trying
to accomplish, if true?
Oh, anyone who has information, the minute they
see the butterflies, they're programming, and then they're
back into brainwash mode.
That's how it supposedly works.
I know, you're skeptical.
I'm very skeptical.
You're skeptical.
But it's okay.
And Mick Jagger, you know, oh, Mick Jagger.
Yeah, the photos you don't see are the
30 photos of him in concert.
I mean, they clearly went to the Rolling
Stones concert, took pictures backstage, maybe had a
dinner in the hotel.
Michael Jackson and Diana Ross, oh, yeah, they're
probably involved.
That seems unlikely.
Of course.
So cool your jets, everybody.
You're getting absolutely nothing.
Nothing.
And everywhere things are going to start falling
apart in the podosphere, or as you aptly
said on Grimerica, the podcast circle jerk.
I think is that what you said?
Something like that.
It was good.
People are reposting it.
Yeah, look at Dvorak's podcast circle jerk.
Well, we're going to complete the circle jerk.
This came out this morning.
This is an important information.
As most of you that pay attention know,
I am not the Internet police.
Was anyone confused?
Just want to make sure.
Did anyone think Alex Jones was the Internet
police?
Okay, just checking.
I don't invite.
I don't try to focus on what other
people are theorizing about or doing.
I try to focus on what I'm doing.
Wait, wait, stop.
Is he in his car?
No, he's outside, though.
It is the selfie cam.
He's in the woods.
He's in nature.
He's in the woods.
Okay, this is his latest thing.
He used to always be behind the table,
but now he's floating around.
Now he's in the woods.
He's in nature.
This is important.
This is what you do.
And so it's with a heavy heart that
I am forced to put out another report
either tonight or tomorrow morning.
We're adding a lot of information right now,
a lot more research.
Dealing with Candace Owens.
Just as soon as the whole Egyptian plane
thing gets debunked, with all the facts, now
she's moving to something else.
And I'm really worried about her.
I'm worried about her and her mind.
And I'm also worried about the country and
where this is going.
It's good to question Charlie Kirk's assassination.
I have big questions.
We know she felt covered up in the
investigation of the accomplices.
I broke that before it hit the mainstream
news.
So I'm not saying don't question.
I broke that months ago.
But her latest source and what she's done,
implicating the U.S. military and all this
other stuff is just so damaging.
When you investigate it, it's so crazy.
And just like with the Egyptian plane, she
says she has the metadata.
Then publish it.
And when she did publish it, and it
got fact-checked, it wasn't accurate.
Candace, we care about you.
But you just doubled down again with something
even more absurd.
And I hate watching you destroy yourself like
this.
We'll be covering it all with the reports
coming out of Reluctance on Axel Rumble and
Infowars.com.
God bless you all.
You know that it's bad when Alex Jones
is calling you out.
Yeah, I have to play two clips about
Candace that showed up on Gutfeld.
Okay.
Mainly because Michael Malice said something that I
thought was interesting.
You would find it interesting.
And Alex Jones just used the term double
down.
So let's play.
Let's see.
Candace, just a little clip from Candace Owens.
Michael on Owens?
No, Owens on Pierce Morgan.
This was the setup.
Brigitte Macron has a penis.
I really want you to know that.
Brigitte Macron does not have a penis.
Brigitte Macron has a penis.
No, she doesn't.
I'm sorry.
She had three children.
Did she get it removed?
She had three children.
Yeah, you can have adoptive children.
You can call somebody.
But Brigitte Macron was born a dude named
Jean-Michel Trogneau.
And I just feel, I want you to
know that.
I want you to know that Brigitte Macron
probably stands peeing up.
Probably pees standing up.
The beauty is we have a big bet.
We have a big bet and we're going
to find out because it's going to court.
And you will lose that court case.
I think you know you will.
I am not going to lose a court
case because Brigitte is presenting evidence that Brigitte
was born a woman.
Because that's never even been offered.
That's just their PR coming after and saying
these things.
Nobody believes that Brigitte Macron is just unable
to present any pictures.
Nobody's asking for blood.
Let's wait for the court case.
Let's wait for the court case.
Okay, great.
Then you will be proven wrong again unless
there's just federal corruption.
Okay, federal corruption.
She went off.
Can I just say one thing about proof
of stuff like that?
They humiliated, in fact Kamala Harris I believe,
humiliated Michael Jackson and forced him to show
his penis to the court.
Of course it wasn't published because of certain
distinguishing marks that had been claimed by children
he allegedly had sex with or fooled around
with.
Why can't they do the same to Brigitte
Macron?
They just might.
But the point is that they went around
a horn and out of the blue at
the very end Michael Mala said the following
thing that I thought you'd be interested in.
Before you get any conspiracy theory I have
to ask myself what would need to be
true for this to be true?
She has had biological children and they say
her brother vanished and now the brother replaced
her.
The brother is still alive and he's given
interviews.
So this doesn't make any sense on any
level.
I mean is she insane?
I think it's BPD and when they have
that they just always double down.
Yeah, which is borderline bipolar disorder.
Borderline personality.
Oh, personality disorder.
Oh, okay I see.
And he said the phrase they always double
down.
The reason John is bringing this up is
my ex-wife had, I believe, I can't
prove it, had this disorder.
Has.
And yeah.
Well, when he said they always double down
and he said it matter of factly in
such a way that he's had relationships with
a woman, I'm guessing, or he has a
relative who has bipolar, not bipolar.
Borderline personality disorder.
Borderline personality disorder, the way he said it.
And then when Alex Jones said double down
in the clip you played, which just kind
of backs it up, I brought it up
not to point out anything in your past.
No, other than the double down.
But have you noticed the double down thing?
What does that even mean?
Here's how I experienced it because it wasn't
in the context of doing a podcast, which
now I really have to think about it.
But it wasn't even a double down.
It was a constant down.
So something would trigger it and it could
be the smallest thing.
And you could see it go from zero
to 150 in 30 seconds.
And it would and then it was just
bam, bam, bam, blah, blah, just verbal.
Well, until it wasn't verbal, but verbal, verbal.
And then double down, triple down, quadruple down.
This is it.
And then it would disappear just like snow
before the sun.
And then the person wouldn't even know actually
what had happened.
So now I have to look at Candace
in that light.
Oh, crap.
Now I got to watch it again.
So, yes, it's kind of an insane thing.
Like, yes, I'm right.
This is absolutely right.
This is the truth.
This is how it is.
And just keep on going.
That's what she was doing right there with
Piers Morgan.
Yeah.
All right.
End of show mixers.
There you go.
Got a penis.
Got a penis.
I don't think so.
Yeah.
Oh, I think so now.
I don't think so.
Well, that would make, you know, in light
of her friendship with Kanye, that kind of
fits.
Oh, that's a nice twist.
Yeah.
That kind of fits in a way.
Yeah.
Well, I guess that could take us right
to the new PSYOP of the day, which
I think you identified this on X.
Nick Reiner.
Yeah.
All of a sudden, all of a sudden,
ah, changed his meds.
All of a sudden.
He did something with his meds.
That's all.
He went crazy.
Do you have any clips on that?
I do.
I don't think so.
Because this just came up and it came
up mostly.
It didn't come up in so far as
clips are concerned, because there wasn't any reports
on it, except to start showing up and
when it showed up, it showed up.
Bang, bang, bang.
Yeah.
Here I have.
I have a couple of clips.
Hold on.
NBC.
Tonight we're learning more about the mental state
of Nick Reiner, now charged with two counts
of first-degree murder for the killings of
his parents, Hollywood actor and director Rob Reiner
and his wife, Michelle.
A judge in Reiner's case signed a sealed
medical order on Friday.
According to three sources with direct knowledge of
the case, the 32-year-old was being
treated for a serious psychiatric disorder at the
time of the crime.
The sources tell NBC News Reiner had been
diagnosed some years ago with schizophrenia and was
on medication, which had been changed or adjusted
before the killings.
How does this new information and what we're
learning potentially impact the case moving forward?
It's almost certain that mental health will either
be a defense or an issue that's raised
right now as far as Nick Reiner's competency
to move forward with the legal proceedings.
Nick Reiner did not enter a plea during
his first court appearance Wednesday, his attorneys standing
to obscure his face and later urging the
public not to rush to judgment.
There are very, very complex and serious issues
that are associated with this case.
Legal analysts say if Reiner does stand trial,
his defense may be setting the stage for
an insanity plea.
Which means that the defendant says, I did
it, but I was insane at the time.
That is an incredibly high bar.
Kind of fits with your where did that
superstar defense attorney come from?
There's a couple of things that can't be
explained where that guy come from.
I've watched and watched and watched.
No one has come up with anybody that
referred him or how he got there in
the first place.
The second little thing that keeps cropping up
is that if he gets off on a
insanity plea, insanity plea is the only way
he can collect any of the inheritance.
Wow, the perfect crime.
So it's and it's a substantial amount of
inheritance.
And it's believed that the attorney will get
a big piece of it.
Okay, that makes sense.
That makes sense.
Yeah.
Yeah, of course.
So he dreams this up because there is
no reference to schizophrenia by the family, by
Rami, by anybody.
And did ever said, well, you know, he's
they always thought he was a violent kid.
And his and his associates talk to him
about talk about him.
In other words, his friends had talked about
him being kind of a spoiled brat and
this sort of thing.
And there's no mention of schizophrenia.
I was watching this like a six minute
video.
I think the New York Post published it.
And it's someone kind of doing like a
profile piece on on this Reiner kid.
And, you know, he's a rapper and he's
walking down the street and he's spitting lyrics.
And it's all in kind of this weird
accent.
And he says, I love Trump.
Trump's my boy, which I just thought was
interesting.
He's doing he's doing coke, smoking weed.
Just but either that was an entire.
Well, if you're schizophrenic, I guess that would
be an entire personality.
Kept that going pretty long.
But he had, you know, hangers on and
all kinds of odd people that that latch
on to a person like this, you know,
because they can hang out in the guest
house.
Here's KTLA closer to the source.
Prosecutors say 32 year old Nick Reiner murdered
his parents, stabbing Rob and Michelle Reiner to
death in their bedroom.
The fact that Nick battled drug addiction for
much of his life is no secret.
But now TMZ is reporting, citing unnamed sources,
a troubled son of Hollywood royalty had been
diagnosed with schizophrenia, a brain disorder.
And that medications he was taking were not
working properly, but making him more erratic, dangerous
and out of his head.
What's more, TMZ says this information points to
a defense of not guilty by reason of
insanity.
KTLA spoke with doctors who say the idea
that anti psychotic medication can make a patient
more violent or dangerous is unbelievable.
They say a problem would be the absence
of medication.
The incidence of violence with schizophrenia is basically
no different than any other regular human being.
If you add things like substance abuse, not
taking medication, other factors, dangerous factors does increase
the risk of violence.
You know, on average, about across about five
years, there's an odds of about 2.8
percent of people with schizophrenia will have violent
actions compared to 0.8 percent of regular
people.
Hmm.
So they're going to have to prove a
lot in court.
Interesting report came out today because the Reiners
were at Conan O'Brien's Christmas party.
I thought I'd never really paid Conan O
'Brien to be such a Hollywood guy.
Did you ever think of him that way?
Well, he was always a writer.
He was with the Simpsons for a while.
He's yeah, kind of.
But, you know, to have the Reiners over
the Obamas and I don't think Obamas were
there, but, you know, he has this big
Christmas party.
And so that's where the the fracas started.
It wasn't his house.
It was at a restaurant.
OK, that a restaurant, but at his party.
And it was his private restaurant party.
So according to page six.
Oh, actually, this comes from the Daily Mail.
Even more credible that it got so bad
and so loud that people wanted to call
the police.
They wanted to call 9-1-1.
And Conan said, hey, this is what he
said.
It's my house, my party.
So I don't know if he says my
house is supposed to be a restaurant, but
I could have been his house.
So he talked everybody out of calling 9
-1-1.
How do you feel now, if that's true?
I don't know if that's even, you know,
it's in the Daily Mail, man.
Yeah, I guess the Reiners left and they
and Rick stayed behind.
Nick, Nick, Nick, Nick, Rick.
Nick stayed behind and started grilling people about
if they're famous and he was making a
scene of some sort.
Yes.
D-D-D-David is his hip hop
name.
D-D-D-David.
That's crazy.
Well, he'll get some creds.
Yes, street cred.
It's all incredibly sad.
The other M5M fracas this week was the
announcers for the Flyers game.
Oh, my Lord, we have to, we got
to jump in.
We have to penalize them for games.
This is horrible.
This went out over the airwaves.
I can't believe what the announcer said on
a hot mic.
Did you hear what he said on the
hot mic, John?
No, I did not hear what he said
on the hot mic, Adam.
In Philadelphia, we said sometimes the Flyers get
a sense of urgency when they're playing from
behind.
Now they're going to take the TV timeout.
We'll take it as well.
Seven gone in the third.
It's 3-2 Buffalo and the Philadelphia Flyers
broadcast network.
While you're down there, would you mind blowing
me?
I think we're still on the air, Tim.
I love that.
This is like the oldest joke in broadcasting.
Someone's doing some wires or fixing your mic
cable.
Yeah, down to your feet.
Yeah, and everyone's made this joke.
Hey, while you're down there, would you mind
blowing me?
And he says it, and they're still on
the air.
Everyone loses their mind.
That's every podcast ever.
That sounds like it was set up.
Now I can see that happening.
The problem I'm having now is I'm having
trouble with the set up stuff that I'm
seeing way too much of.
Well, the best example is the person going
up to the porch, picking up a package.
They run out to their car, and the
package blows up and throws paint all over
them, the car, the whole area.
Well, most of those are AI.
Well, most of those are bull crap.
I mean, there's one original guy.
And there's hundreds of them.
No, those are all bull crap.
But there's one original guy who really put
in the work with the technology and had
pumps and all kinds of stuff to spray
fart spray.
That guy's fantastic.
Yeah, well, it's become a joke, and I
think it's being done by Amazon Studios.
Oh, that would make sense, wouldn't it?
Yeah, to keep people from stealing packages.
And I think it's pretty effective.
And there's another fake one that's going around.
I've seen at least four examples.
It's supposedly a newscast, the eyewitness crime report
or something.
It's always got the same set, sometimes two
different people.
And then they show a picture of a...
And then we have a drawing of the
suspected assailant.
And then they put a picture up, and
it's some stupid drawing, like just a round
face with two dots for eyes.
Oh, with the hair on the side of
the head?
Or whatever.
And then they show the guy, and it's
the same guy.
And they crack up, and one of them
falls off his chair.
I have seen four versions of this.
And it's always the same set.
There's no reference to any station.
It's bull crap.
There's so much bull crap being put on.
Wait, wait.
Are you telling me that AI slop is
ruining your social media experience?
No, I don't think this is AI.
I think this was done staged.
It doesn't have to be AI.
I think you're underestimating AI.
This stuff has gotten pretty good.
This doesn't look like AI to me.
But whatever the case, it's just another phony
baloney thing.
But the package is blowing up.
It's completely out of control.
And then they have one where the electricity
starts.
And you can see the person, in fact,
you see somebody lift the package.
There's nothing in the package.
It's obvious.
You can't have a gallon of paint.
A gallon of paint weighs a lot.
I don't know if anyone's picked a gallon
of paint up.
But it's not like light.
No, it's not.
So I'm seeing more and more of these
staged.
Which, of course, throws me, which you should
follow up with.
You should say to me, well, don't you
think some of these women that you keep
putting on the show, the TikTok complainers, are
phony?
Why would I do that if you're doing
my work for me?
I'm doing your work for you.
Because I was watching a couple today, and
it was like, I don't think so.
No, of course not.
And even the ones that are real, they're
just very sad, very lonely people who just
want some likes to feel warmth.
That's all.
It's becoming an embarrassing mess.
A nuisance?
It's a nuisance.
Actually, on my feet, it is a nuisance.
This is like the same thing you pointed
out, which is these cooking demos.
Yeah.
Where somebody dumps a bunch of crap in
a pan, and they start stirring it up.
And then they put tons of cheese, and
they mix it up.
And then they throw cans of this and
that and mix it up.
And then they serve it to the kids
who go, yum.
And it's just gross, whatever it is.
It's great.
The Internet is deteriorating.
Well, that has a term, inshittification.
That's the term.
But yeah, this is exactly what – this
is entropy of the social networks.
You don't even need AI for it.
Once you let everybody go, man, that's a
huge conversation.
Or podcastindex.social. They're like, well, the Americans
with a Section 230, blah, blah, blah.
I said, listen, without Section 230, there would
be no social media networks, period.
It wouldn't happen.
There's no way.
There would be too many lawsuits and tort
and libel, and it would never, ever end.
Well, if you're Americans, you can do that,
blah, blah, blah.
Here in Australia, we have sensible laws.
You can't say Nazi.
Oh, you mean you don't have free speech
over there?
Well, they all think that it's about what
you can say.
Man, my daughter's here.
I just got to tell you, she and
her fiancé, Kevin, are giving me boots on
the ground of Rotterdam.
Holy crap.
Like what?
First of all, it's a complete narco state.
Everybody is involved in the drug trade one
way or the other.
If they're an accountant, they're an accountant for
drug pushers, dealers, wholesalers, whatever.
Of course, the macro mafia, it's a lot
of Moroccans who are mainly in the drug
trade, but not exclusively.
One building a week is being blown up.
Just the whole building, all drug-related.
There are schools that are for Muslim children
only.
They don't learn Dutch.
They only learn Arabic.
They honor killings, are regular business.
Of course, all the asylum seekers are all
getting housing free in a market where there's
400,000 home shortage for the Dutch.
These kids, they want a two-bedroom apartment.
They can't actually find one because the minute
it goes on the market, there's 10,000
people ahead of them within five minutes.
Then there's these required salary.
You have to approve salary requirements.
If we're a two-bedroom apartment together, you
have to make 115,000 euros a year.
Well, no.
I said, well, can't you work more and
then just get up to that level?
Oh, no.
The law, you can't work more than 32
hours a week.
See, even if you want to work harder
to make more money, you can't.
No.
No, because that's a 32-hour work week
for everybody.
Justice is completely gone.
There was some asylum seeker who he stabbed
multiple people, killed one of them.
Evidence in court showed they've been watching extremist
imams and ISIS beheading videos.
He watched videos in preparation of his attack,
had Islamic chants on his phone that he
played over his own little loudspeaker, shouted Allah
Akbar while pulling out two knives, stabbing random
tourists.
What does he get?
No jail time because of his mental condition.
I mean, wow.
So I don't even know how I got
there, but what were we talking about?
You talked about your daughter came and is
visiting, and you got an earful, and then
I said, what?
I triggered it.
Yeah, I can't remember what was going on
before that.
Well, we were talking about something else.
Yeah, something important.
So on top of all that, they're going
to steal more of their money.
As we have a final decision, a final
deal, we figured out how to do it.
We know how to fund Ukraine.
All eyes were on Brussels as EU leaders
met for a make or break summit.
Determined to find a way to lend billions
of euros to Ukraine.
By the early hours of Friday, a deal
was done.
As a matter of urgency, we will provide
a loan backed by the European Union budget.
This will address the urgent financial needs of
Ukraine.
And Ukraine will only repay this loan once
Russia pays reparations.
Until then, the immobilized Russian assets will remain
immobilized, and the Union reserves its right to
make use of the cash balances to finance
the loan.
The main option had been to tap some
of the 200 billion euros of Russian central
bank assets frozen in the EU.
But that scheme fell by the wayside when
Belgium's PM pushed back.
His country hosts the bulk of the assets
and feared Moscow retaliation.
In the courts, or perhaps by other means.
Germany's Chancellor called this decision a show of
Europe's independence.
Today, we were really put to the test.
We were confronted with a question of whether
we really understood the challenges of geopolitics, whether
we really saw the provocations of a new
world order, and whether we had anything to
counter them with.
And I want to say that the answer
is a resounding yes.
The EU says Ukraine needs another 135 billion
euros to stay afloat over the next two
years, and the cash crunch could hit as
soon as April.
So here's how I understand this deal.
Instead of just stealing the money, they've now
come up with some word salad.
First of all, because of the powers they
have under emergency situation, they no longer have
to re-ratify every six months that the
Russian assets are frozen.
So now they're frozen indefinitely.
Instead of stealing the money, we're going to
take the money and call it a loan,
backed by the European Union's own budget money,
and Ukraine gets that loan, then doesn't have
to pay it back unless Russia pays reparations.
Which they'll never do.
Of course they'll never do that, and that
would Russia be paying their own pocket to
get the money that was essentially stolen in
the first place.
So they are stealing the money.
They're just calling it a loan.
I don't know if the international financial people
see it that way, but this is just
a different wording for we're stealing it.
Well, somebody pointed out that this is going
to...
I mean, the Europeans have to realize that
this is not the way to encourage people
to invest in Europe.
Well, so they've taken a different track on
that.
They're going to steal your money.
Yeah.
You send your money over there, and then
they basically nationalize your money.
That's exactly what they did.
That's what they did, yeah, and called it
a loan.
I didn't steal your money, man.
I just borrowed it temporarily, okay?
Holmes, don't worry.
Can I get it back?
No, you can't get it back.
No, no, I'm waiting for those guys to
pay it.
If I can't get it back, then you
have my money, and you haven't given it
back.
This is no good.
No.
But at the same time, don't worry, citizens,
because we're pretty much on track.
We've approved the digital euro.
We'll start rolling it out 2027, 2029.
It'll be in full effect, and your money
belonged to Fifi Lagarde.
I know these are important moments for the
digital euro, because we have done our work.
We've carried the water.
Carried the water.
For the European Council, and certainly later on
for the European Parliament.
Isn't carrying water typically seen as a negative?
He's carrying water for Putin.
Yeah, yeah, it's a negative.
It's a, what do you call it when
you soft-pedal the negative comment?
Bullshit.
No, no, it's something else.
There's a term I'm looking for, I don't
have it.
Pardon me, Lord.
All right, let's go back.
We've carried the water, but it's now for
the European Council, and certainly later on for
the European Parliament, to identify whether the Commission
proposal is satisfactory, how it can be transformed
into a piece of legislation, or amended.
Our ambition is not to be role models.
Our ambition is to make...
That's great.
Hey, we don't want to be role models
here.
We're going to actually screw you.
We're not role models, we're just thieves.
Our ambition is not to be role models.
Our ambition is to make sure that in
the digital age, there is a currency that
is the anchor of stability for the financial
system.
For the moment, that anchor is central bank
money, which essentially has material form.
It's the banknotes that you have in your
wallet.
But in the digital age, it has to
be a digital expression of that sovereignty and
a digital anchor for the purpose of the
financial system.
Wait, back it up.
Does she say it has to be?
Let me listen again.
But in the digital age, it has to
be a digital expression of that sovereignty and
a digital anchor.
It has to be.
Stop a second.
What does it have to be?
She says it has to be.
Oh, in the digital age, it has to
be.
She says a digital expression of your central
bank.
It has to be.
What does it have to be?
What makes it have to be?
Listen, she's wearing a green sash like she
belongs to Starfleet Command.
It's really insane with this woman's fashion choices.
Like a broad, like one of those Miss
Universe type sashes, only it's green and has
some kind of nondescript bug on it.
She feels like Captain Pike.
It has to be.
It has to be a digital expression.
But in the digital age, it has to
be a digital expression of that sovereignty and
a digital anchor for the purpose of the
financial system that we have.
So that's what we're pursuing in addition to
making sure that it is user-friendly, not
costly, fast, efficient, private, that it can work
online, offline.
I mean, I could go on and on
because you know that I follow that very
carefully.
Yeah, why bother?
Colleagues and both Luis and myself are very
strong supporters of this initiative, and we place
great hopes in the work that will be
done in Parliament once the Council has determined
its views.
Ahamada, ahamada, ahamada, ahamada.
That's, I mean, it is a literal central
bank digital currency.
But don't worry, it'll be private.
You can, even if you're offline, you can
exchange it with people.
We'll sync it back up later.
Yeah, what could go wrong with that?
Seems highly unlikely.
But sounds like a good way to rob
them.
I mean, seriously, so if I buy something
and my phone is in offline mode, or
I exchange something with you, and I just
trash the phone, I'm good to go, aren't
I?
I'm sure there's better scams than that, but
this is scammable.
Possibly.
I mean, the printed bills are scammable.
You have to counterfeit them.
It's a lot of work.
But I think this is going to ease
it, make it easier for, especially the people
that are talented black hat types.
And I'm sure it's all going to run
on XRP.
So everybody with XRP are going to be
a billionaire.
So amidst all of that, I'm just going
to bop back to Russia for a second.
It looks like peace talks are not really
moving the way they wanted at Steve's club
in Miami.
What?
I was going to say they're not moving
at all.
It's just a lot of drinking.
A gated golf course in Florida becomes the
latest hub to host these talks as U
.S. negotiators meet separately with both sides to
try to end the war.
Russia's envoy spoke briefly to reporters after arriving
in Miami.
The discussions are constructive.
They began and continued on Saturday and will
also continue on Sunday.
Thank you very much.
Speaking in Kiev, Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky urged
the U.S. to put more pressure on
Moscow.
America must clearly say, if not diplomacy, then
there will be full pressure.
There will be a very strong weapons package
for Ukraine.
There will be a very strong support for
Ukraine.
The United States will impose sanctions fully on
the entire economy, on all sectors that bring
money to the Russians.
Without this, it's simply impossible.
Putin does not yet feel the kind of
pressure that should exist.
For months, the Trump administration has led high
-profile talks.
While Kiev has made some concessions, Russian President
Vladimir Putin made it clear on Friday he
is not in the mood to negotiate.
We are ready and willing to resolve the
conflict by peaceful means on the basis of
the principles that I set out in June
of last year at the Russian Ministry of
Foreign Affairs and provided that the causes that
led to this crisis are eliminated.
For both sides, that means territory.
The U.S. is proposing security guarantees for
Ukraine, but Kiev would need to cede land,
something Zelensky said on Saturday would have to
be put to the Ukrainian people in a
referendum.
Hold on a second.
He can't hold elections, but a referendum is
no problem?
Why does no one ever question that little
tidbit?
That's a good catch.
President Putin wants the whole of the Donbass
region and more and says Russia can take
it by force if Kiev doesn't cede to
Moscow's terms.
Europe, and they're all syoping this tiny dancer.
Say no.
Say no, son.
Say no.
Just say no.
Keep saying no.
We got your back.
Our kids are ready to die for you.
No.
Well, it's a question of how much longer
this can continue.
Well, this money's going to run out.
Yeah, because it doesn't get used for anything
other than lining people's pockets.
Yeah, they're stealing it.
No doubt.
No doubt.
I had one more clip here.
I think it was the BBC.
Was it NBC?
Somebody asked Putin.
Putin did another one of those five-hour
TV shows.
He's like Trump.
I think Trump got it from him, like,
hey, I can do that.
I just don't own the station yet.
Our Keir Simmons is in Moscow tonight and
questioned Vladimir Putin directly.
He pressed him on President Trump's peace plan.
That's right, Tom, President Putin answering questions for
four and a half hours.
Another Brit.
Calling claims Moscow is planning to attack Europe
nonsense and promising there will be no more
wars after Ukraine if Russia is treated with
respect.
And with more talks underway, I asked him
about President Trump's push for peace.
Push for peace.
Mr. President, if you reject President Trump's peace
offer, will you be responsible for the deaths
of Ukrainians and Russians in 2026?
What kind of an a-hole question is
that?
I mean, seriously, how are you supposed to
respond?
Oh, yeah, I take full responsibility for everyone
who dies.
That's right.
Russians in 2026.
We do not consider ourselves responsible for the
death of people.
It wasn't us who started this war.
The ball is entirely in the court of
our Western so-called opponents.
It was Russia that invaded Ukraine in 2022,
Tom, and Secretary of State Marco Rubio said
today the U.S. is not pressuring either
side, just trying to see if a deal
is possible.
President Putin says Russian forces are advancing on
the battlefield, while today Ukraine said it had
hit a Russian oil tanker.
Tom.
Tom.
Tom.
Tom.
Tom.
Alright, that's enough.
Yeah, that's enough.
That's all we have.
They stole the money, they called it a
loan.
It's just great.
It's just so...
I wish that something would kick off so
the kids wouldn't even be able to go
back.
I'll just keep them here.
You're going to have to tie them up.
They're going to go back.
Yeah, I know.
I know.
I have some clips from the Brown University
killer thing that...
This is interesting.
This is an interesting case.
Yeah, and here's the thing.
I've had three clips, and they're all called
Brown Killer Far-Fetched.
Yes.
In other words, everything seems pretty screwy.
This whole thing seems like it doesn't sound
right, it doesn't make sense, and they're all
going, you know, wiping their hands.
We did it.
We're good.
We're good to go.
Let's end this whole thing and go do
something else.
But listen to this.
Here we go with part one.
The suspect in the Brown University campus shooting
and the murder of a professor from Massachusetts
Institute of Technology has been found dead in
New Hampshire.
We brought you that here on Fox.
Authorities say Claudio Neves Valente died from a
self-inflicted gunshot wound.
He's a former student at Brown with ties
to the MIT educator.
Correspondent Brooke Taylor is in Providence, Rhode Island
tonight.
This was always going to be an investigation
where something was going to break it open.
Providence leaders and police touting themselves for their
work after days...
First of all, what kind of...
I've never heard a statement like that.
This whole thing was an investigation.
We knew from the beginning something was going
to break it wide open.
I've never heard someone say that.
We're hoping for a tip.
We're looking for leads.
We're trying to figure this out.
No, we knew something was going to blow
this wide open.
That's your far-fetched bit right there.
Correspondent Brooke Taylor...
That's far-fetched one.
Yeah, I know.
Way through the rest of it.
I know, I know.
Providence, Rhode Island tonight.
This was always going to be an investigation
where something was going to break it open.
Providence leaders and police touting themselves for their
work after days...
Days of criticism for the pace of their
investigation and chaotic press conferences.
After a six-day manhunt across multiple states...
Police identified a 48-year-old former Brown
Ph.D. student...
As the man who opened fire at the
Ivy League school last weekend...
Killing two students and wounding nine more.
He was a Brown student.
He was a Portuguese national.
And I will tell you that he took
his own life tonight.
First reported by Fox...
Authorities found Claudio Neves Valente dead in a
New Hampshire storage facility...
Leaving many unanswered questions and a crime spree
that investigators say...
Included the murder of an MIT professor in
Massachusetts.
Previously, he attended the same academic program as
the MIT professor...
Nuno Luriero in Portugal between 1995 and 2000.
Yeah, that was an interesting connection.
Yeah, and how would they get to that
connection so quickly?
How did they manage to find this out?
I know how.
The crack team at Redacted called their sources
in Portugal.
And so we have that issue.
And we have to remember that the guy
at MIT was an expert on...
He was a nuclear scientist and his specialty
was fusion power.
Yes.
This is kind of interesting because of all
the Iranian scientists...
That have been killed over the years that
are...
Working on fusion.
Working on one thing or another.
So, wait a minute.
So now you're putting him in the same
line as the zero-point energy guys...
And cars that drive on water?
No, I don't think zero-point energy and
fusion energy is the same whatsoever.
Fusion is a known technology.
Right, but they're going to disrupt the entire
energy system.
They have to be eliminated.
It was the oil companies that killed him.
Yes, yes.
Exxon.
Exactly.
Police say a Reddit tipster cracked open the
case by posting the suspect's car description.
Now, hold on.
Stop.
Stop this clip.
This was great.
This is the worst of the most far
-fetched.
And I'm going to preview it for anybody.
They got a tip from a homeless man
who was a Brown University student.
Living in the basement.
It was a Brown University...
No, he was a graduate from Brown, but
he was homeless because if you graduate from
Brown, you can't get work.
And he just so happened to be in
the neighborhood walking around homeless.
He lived in the basement.
In the same area where the killer was.
He lived in the basement, John.
He lived in the basement.
And then he...
Yeah, that's not mentioned in the report.
Oh.
And then he...
Well, he's homeless.
He lives in a basement.
He has a home.
Yeah.
But he saw the guy and immediately remembered
his car for some reason or other.
And then told him about the car.
And once they knew about the car, they
get the license plate.
But he did this by posting it on
Reddit because the homeless, as you know, are
on Reddit like nobody else.
I can't say one way or the other,
but I do know it's what they train
AI on, so it must be good.
So let's start this clip too.
Police say a Reddit tipster cracked open the
case by posting the suspect's car description.
He was later identified as the man in
these images.
Sources say he's a homeless man and a
former Brown University grad.
He had an odd encounter with the shooter
earlier in the day and remembered what his
car looked like.
Police used license plate reader cameras to find
the car.
And eventually they were led to the storage
facility in Salem, New Hampshire, where he was
found dead with two firearms nearby.
Police say the tip was crucial due to
the lack of security cameras at the Brown
University building.
So the troll room did immediately show me
a homeless subreddit where people who are homeless
post.
Of course, that's monitored by the police just
in case they post something about the car.
Well, that's only if they have a case
that needs to be broke wide open.
Yeah, so that's so I'm sure that that's
being monitored 24 7 by the by the
police.
Okay, so that makes sense.
Of course, the guys found in a shed
of storage shed shot.
Yeah, that's not suspicious.
I'm sorry.
Okay, onward.
Yeah, play the last clip.
An autopsy shows that the shooter was dead
two days before police found him.
The big question right now tonight is what
is the motive here?
Sources say they still don't know.
There were also no writings found.
Sources also say that currently officials are going
through his credit card transactions just to try
to see where he's been the last few
days.
Okay, I have a few clips that will
give us some additional information because I think
there was another far fetched bit.
And this concerns what you discussed, what you
brought up on the last show, that he
yelled something.
Now, I have to say, you said he
probably yelled and killed because he was a
Republican hater, killed the Republican girl.
But now we know kind of what he
yelled.
After a nearly week-long manhunt that left
the nation on edge, police have identified the
shooting suspect who killed two Brown University students
and an MIT professor.
Authorities were able to follow his trail thanks
to the help of a homeless hero who
provided them with key information.
Homeless hero?
Now, that's better.
Homeless hero.
That's much better.
Yeah, I like it.
It's a better headline.
Led them to a storage facility in Salem,
New Hampshire.
There, they found 48-year-old Claudio Neves
Valente dead from a self-inflicted gunshot wound.
So who was this demented person who reportedly
barked like a dog while he opened fire
on his victims?
Here's everything you need to know.
On Saturday, December 13th, a crazed gunman dressed
in black stormed an engineering building at Brown
University, killing two people and injuring nine others.
In a rampage which left the campus in
a panic, a sophomore Ella Cook and a
freshman Mohamed Aziz Umurzikov were named as the
victims who lost their lives in the horrific
massacre.
The killer managed to escape police and remained
at large.
The Ivy League campus and parts of the
Rhode Island capital of Providence were left under
lockdown and in a state of terror as
a desperate manhunt was underway.
Nothing was known about the shooter, whom police
have since revealed made a disturbing sound during
the massacre.
Some witnesses said he said nothing.
There are some that say he made a
barking noise.
Don't ask me.
I don't know why.
And that's it.
There there is no other spoken word beyond
that that we are aware of.
So he made a barking noise.
So they changed the story.
Oh, yeah.
So he goes in there, goes woof, woof,
woof and shoots two people and shoots a
bunch of others and then rushes off to
shoot the professor and then goes to a
storage bin and shoots himself.
This is bullcrap.
Then we have the homeless hero.
Here's some more details on this with ominous
music.
He blew this case right open.
He blew it open.
He blew it open.
This is you're right.
This is very far fetched, especially how they
speak about it.
What instead of what is that?
What is where am I getting feedback from?
Instead of saying, you know, we're really grateful
to this man.
You know, this is this is how how
the Internet helps.
Whatever.
He blew it wide open.
Well, wait, one more thing to get to
kind of the giveaway to the far fetched
aspect is the fact that they had a
picture of this guy, the homeless man, in
advance of of him posting on Reddit or
something, because they were they were one of
the press conferences.
We have this unidentified man that may have
run into the shooter.
We don't know if he was working with
him or whatever.
And it was all that in itself was
far fetched.
It was some guy.
There was you never saw the two of
them together.
It was just a bunch of random photos
of the homeless man.
And he had to should have turned himself
into the police.
And then he posts about because because the
homeless concern is that, oh, I saw a
guy get in a car.
I mean, this is bullcrap.
This stinks.
It's not even a well written.
Blew this case right open.
He blew it open.
The tipster known only as John turned out
to be a homeless man who had been
living in the basement of the engineering building
at the time, sources told Fox News.
He bumped into Valente and noticed he was
acting suspiciously, working off John's information.
Authorities tapped into additional surveillance footage that ultimately
led them to the gunman.
I just got it.
I can't get beyond the he was living
in the in the university basement.
So, first of all, not homeless by the
actual definition.
Houseless.
Maybe that.
How do you get to be living in
the basement of the university?
It's bullcrap.
The homeless hero has now been credited with
cracking the shootings, as the feds say he
is now entitled to the staggering $50,000
reward.
Thanks to John's lead, authorities learned that Claudio
Neves Valente.
I didn't even know there was a reward.
Did they put a $50,000 reward?
And there was a discussion when they found
the dead guy about who's going to get
the reward.
And they finally determined it was going to
go to this guy.
The homeless hero didn't lead to the arrest.
Thousand dollar reward.
Thanks to John's lead, authorities learned that Claudio
Neves Valente rented the gray Nissan in Boston
and changed his license plates.
According to prosecutors, he also used a phone
that masked his location and had credit cards.
Masked his location.
Do you think he had location off, perhaps?
I want one of those phones.
I want a phone that masks.
That's another little trick.
Explain that to me.
And also, how did they know he changed
his plates unless they had pictures of him
doing it?
Masked his location and had credit cards that
weren't under his name.
The gunman was then connected to the death
of LaRaro through the rental car and other
movements.
Security footage captured Valente within a half a
mile of LaRaro's home.
Authorities also say there is video footage of
him entering an apartment building near the location
of the professor's apartment.
Valente appeared to have shot LaRaro, then driven
to a rented storage unit in Salem, New
Hampshire.
Finally, on the night of Thursday, December 18th,
authorities stormed the facility where they found Valente
with a satchel and two firearms.
Dead from a self-inflicted gunshot wound.
Well, and he was shot two days earlier,
according to the police.
So he killed himself two days before they
got there, which is like right after the
shooting of the professor.
Why?
Why did he go there and do that?
What was in the satchel?
And what was in the satchel?
The satchel's new.
I demand to know what's in the satchel.
You know, this is the kind of thing
you always say.
Who even has a satchel anymore?
I don't even know what a satchel is.
It's a butt bag, I think.
Satchel.
Satchel.
Boomers have satchels.
It's like knapsack.
He had a knapsack.
Knapsack.
Knapsack.
Well, there is a problem, reaction, solution to
all this.
I doubt it's related, but of course, this
was the ultimate remedy that this is all
the result of.
Investigators have since revealed that Claudio Neves Valente
was a Portuguese national and a former Brown
University graduate student.
He also studied in Lisbon with murdered MIT
nuclear science professor Nuno Larrao between 1995 and
2000.
The nature of their relationship remains unclear, nor
has it been revealed if they stayed in
contact.
Valente was enrolled at Brown University between 2000
and 2001 in a graduate physics program.
He primarily took classes at the university's Beres
and Holly building, where he opened fire on
students inside a classroom, according to Brown University
president Christina Paxson.
It is safe to assume that this man,
when he was a student, spent a lot
of time in that building, Paxson told reporters.
The gunman took a leave of absence from
Brown University in April 2001 and formally withdrew
from the Ivy League University in 2003.
He came to the United States from Portugal
on a student visa.
Valente received lawful permanent resident status in September
2017, officials said.
Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem confirmed Valente entered
the U.S. through the lottery immigrant visa
program DV-1 in 2017.
He was later granted a green card.
This heinous individual should never have been allowed
in our country, she wrote.
And in a declaration that has implications far
beyond this case, she continued.
At President Trump's direction, I am immediately directing
USCIS to pause the DV-1 program to
ensure no more Americans are harmed by this
disastrous program.
By the way, the green card lottery.
Yeah, I know, but this is not the
problem.
No, of course not the problem, but it's
a disastrous program.
This guy's like a peaceful character until right
now and all of a sudden he did
this, that and the other.
Yeah.
And he shot himself for some unknown reason.
You know why?
He could have gotten away with it, seems
to me.
And what was the storage room being used
for?
I mean, why was it in New Hampshire?
This is bull crap.
This is too many bull crap.
It's just, I can't, it's nothing that makes
sense about it.
And the fact that they're playing it straight
is beyond me.
Yeah.
They can't come up with something better.
I don't know either.
I really don't know.
I mean, this is probably beyond the shooting
in Manhattan of the Blackstone girl, even though
they blamed it.
Oh, he hated the NFL.
Yeah, okay.
He never played in the NFL, but that's
okay.
He went to shoot up the NFL and
accidentally shot one of the main people at
Blackstone, an operation that's buying up all the
housing where he came from.
And somebody obviously got screwed by him.
But that's pretty logical.
I don't get this one at all unless
it has something to do with Fusion or
the oil companies.
I mean, there's nothing.
How about, what is the entire GDP at
the moment built on?
On hyperscalers, all the money that is circling
around initially, basically coming from one source, which
is NVIDIA, and others, and now Saudi Arabia.
It's all going into power.
All going into power generation.
Not the data centers.
It's the power for the generation.
So, let's just presume, I know I'm going
out on a ledge here.
Let's presume that this is all about the
MIT professor.
They got to do something to cover up
the hit on the MIT professor, because there's
very little evidence.
Well, you know, we saw the guy around
there on some ring door video cam, kind
of looked like him.
So, that was him, and he killed the
MIT guy.
So, perhaps this MIT guy, maybe he had
something.
Maybe it was a huge problem.
Like, look, I now have a gigawatt in
a jar.
I mean, I don't know.
How does fusion even work?
Fusion works by combining elements, like atoms get
combined in such a way that after the
combination, energy is given off.
Right.
As opposed to cracking something and it happens.
Can you do it in a jar?
No.
Would it impact the world tremendously at this
moment in time, right when everyone's putting all
of this money into gas-powered energy?
It's considered the holy grail.
Okay.
So, let's listen to the Secretary of the
Interior, Doug Burgum, with the money, honey, this
morning.
Gentlemen, I was the Secretary of the Interior,
Doug Burgum.
Secretary, great to have you.
Thanks so much for being here this weekend.
What about that pushback on data centers?
Well, the data centers, it's all about decision
-making made between the locals.
I mean, there are examples, including in my
home state, where a data center comes in,
you get an agreement with a local.
Electric prices stay the same for the consumers,
the local farmers or ranchers, or it can
even go down.
There's deals that are being cut right now.
We're proposing that if somebody wants to come
in and build a data center, but they're
going to build power generation with it, have
some of that be behind the meter, off
the grid to run the data center, but
when they build the power, build extra, so
that they can put like an extra 20
% back into the grid and help ensure
that prices either stay flat or go down
for consumers.
There is certainly right now the economics.
Electricity has never been worth more now.
A kilowatt hour has never been worth more
now than it ever has been at any
time in history.
Okay.
That was the key point.
He says something interesting later on, but that
was the key point.
So first of all, it's the same or
it's going down, but a kilowatt hour has
never been more valuable than that now, which
means expensive.
Expensive.
Yes.
These tech companies that are driving up the
stock market have a record amount.
The top five tech companies in America have
almost $400 billion of CapEx.
They want to spend on power generation as
long, again, with these data centers.
And a data center is really a place
where we're manufacturing intelligence.
Whoa!
Did you know that?
Were you aware?
We're back, baby.
America is back in the manufacturing business.
What are we manufacturing?
Intelligence.
And with these data centers.
Which clearly this guy was not first in
line for.
And a data center is really a place
where we're manufacturing intelligence.
Intelligence lifts every sector of the economy, so
we want more intelligence, not less.
And so localities that are figuring out a
way to have.
I think he meant to say artificial intelligence,
but he keeps saying intelligence.
Intelligence manufactured in their local area and lower
prices.
Those are the folks that are getting it.
People that are blocking and stopping these projects
from coming in are actually hurting every sector.
They're hurting their universities.
They're hurting their schools.
They're hurting the U.S. national security.
Sounds to me like if someone figured this
out, it's going to hurt our schools, hurt
our universities, hurt our national security.
We've got to kill this guy.
This guy is too close.
What are we going to do?
I've got a homeless guy in the basement.
Yeah, how can we set him up?
Give him $50,000.
We'll give him $50,000, and he'll give
us the back story, and then we'll take
this other, the patsy.
Yep.
Who may have killed himself months ago, for
all we know.
Yeah, this whole thing just stinks.
It stinks.
But what's behind it, it may stink, but
to figure it out is going to be
non-trivial.
I don't think anyone's going to do it
unless it's just straight-up fusion.
Well, I think the first thing we need
to do is establish the true link in
Portugal with these two.
I'm skeptical of that.
I'm very skeptical of that.
They're just saying it.
What, are they gay lovers?
You know, it's like, hey, this guy's also
from, he's from Portugal.
Let me go investigate.
That's like a Whitney Webb five months later
type thing.
That's not something that just pops up, seems
to me.
Yeah, it's something you can't just, you just
can't make a phone call.
And there's very little evidence that he killed
the MIT professor.
There just isn't.
You know, there's a Ringcam video of someone
walking by.
Oh, that's him.
He switched the plates.
You know, there are identical cars with different
plates, you know, that also happens.
Yeah, yeah.
Gray Nissan.
Yeah.
That's so rare.
I don't know, I'm just, I'm skeptical.
Yeah, okay, well, that's, we might as well
just give up on that.
Yeah, we'll give up on that.
But let's stay with AI because it's always
super fun.
And the first thing we'll do is we'll
go to the farmers.
The farmers are now being hurt by AI.
Gabor Farm in Maryland is ready for the
holidays.
We give them a saw, we give them
a tree cart.
They find their perfect tree.
I know it sounds like a human interest
story for Christmastime, but hold on.
The Christmas trees are pruned, the chocolate fudge
displayed.
But Lisa Gabor, a seventh generation farmer.
Dude, have you tried the Little John's Candies
fudge yet?
I've had their fudge before.
Did you get the eggnog fudge?
Uh, no, not if it was in the
package.
The package is still sealed.
Oh.
We cut into one and it was eggnog
fudge.
It was delightful.
I've never even considered that.
It's almost, it should be in the egg
book.
The Christmas trees are pruned, the chocolate fudge
displayed.
But Lisa Gabor, a seventh generation farmer, is
struggling to enjoy the season.
You're in a fight.
We are in a fight.
What do you think your chances are of
winning it?
I don't know.
It's going to be a long road hoe.
The fight is over proposed high voltage power
lines that would cut right through this 40
acre Christmas tree field.
Gabor is part of a group of Maryland
landowners battling the proposed 67 mile line that
would cross three counties to deliver power from
Pennsylvania to Northern Virginia, an area where data
center growth has exploded because of AI and
with it the demand for electricity.
All of that computer processing needs power.
In a statement, the utility company says the
lines are necessary to power data centers in
both Virginia and Maryland, as well as strengthen
the power grid.
Farmers in Maryland tried to block surveyors from
coming onto their property.
The power company sued to gain access and
won.
Now the company is threatening to use eminent
domain, which gives the government authority to acquire
private property.
That company can't call eminent domain.
Only the government can, correct?
Yeah.
But that's not what I heard them say.
Let's play it back.
And won.
Now the company is threatening to use eminent
domain.
The company is threatening to use eminent domain.
Yeah, they can't use eminent domain.
They don't have the right to do that.
Which gives the government authority to acquire private
property for public use to go forward with
the project.
We all need to manufacture more intelligence.
Sorry, ma'am.
The battle playing out in similar ways all
over the country.
Suddenly we need a lot of power and
we weren't planning to have to build that
much.
There are multiple regions where new data centers
are creating a surge in power demand.
Do we have the kind of power infrastructure
in place right now in this country to
be able to supply enough power to the
AI industry?
We don't really at this point.
We're having to get very creative.
At Gaver Farm, the power company just left
notice that its surveyors would be there soon.
They could show up anytime.
This is going into our busiest tree season.
We're just honest and good, hardworking farmers that
didn't ask for this.
Tonight, Lisa Gaver vowing to keep farming and
fighting.
Okay.
So there's your Christmas AI power story.
This brings to mind that there's something scammish
going on here.
Hence the need to kill the MIT professor,
yes?
Well, I don't know if it has anything
to do with that guy.
But the whole idea of, oh, we've got
to build out all these data centers out
of the blue all of a sudden so
people can do AI art, you know, or
whatever they're going to do.
It just doesn't make any sense.
And we can't get a better voice.
And we got that.
Yes, I was bitching to Adam.
You'll hear these songs.
We have our AI songs at the end
of the show in the show mix.
And the voice is the same guy.
It's some kind of a Broadway version of
Sinatra that is with a good range.
But it's the same guy.
And I'd like to hear somebody else, you
know, besides this guy's voice.
I mean, it's much more important that we
improve that voice than have farms.
I mean, come on.
Let's be honest about it.
And they're not going to do it.
There's something going on that maybe we're going
to have a flood of excess oil that's
got to be burned off.
And energy prices are too high already every
place in the country.
In California, it's ridiculous.
All of these municipal power companies, they all
went to their city councils or state or
whatever they had to go to and say,
hey, we need a little more room in
our pricing because of the demand.
So we need, you know, anywhere between 15
and 25 percent more room for prices increases.
And, of course, the city council people, they're
all like hanging out with the AI boys.
We'll take care of that for you.
Yeah, but you're bringing jobs or whatever.
But this is where all the money is.
All the money right now is in building
data centers, building the actual data centers, because,
of course, we have a lot of Nvidia
chips that need to go somewhere, and the
power generation for it.
As far as I can tell, that's where
all the money is going or into, you
know.
Is there a shortage?
Is the demand for AI services so high
that it's coming to a halt?
No, no, no.
Then what's the point?
The promise is if you just give us
more power, Captain, if you just give us
more power, then AI will really work.
We're almost there.
That's all I hear.
Really work doing what?
Getting that voice you want.
That's a little coding issue.
I think they could fix that.
No, I think it's harder than it looks.
All right, well, let's move from one fraud
to another and go to Minnesota.
Oh, I was still on AI, but OK,
if you want to.
Do you have any more AI stuff besides
just complaining?
Because that's all I'm going to do.
Oh, you can complain, and this happened in
your, oh, here we go.
Let me say it.
In your neck of the woods in the
Bay Area.
Yeri McLaren used her debit card for gas
at the 7-Eleven in Pinal.
She went inside to buy a Powerball Dory.
What?
This is not a good story.
Yeah, I know it happened.
Well, OK, then I'll end the clip.
Just give us the story.
OK, well, I'm actually funny because I was
going to get this.
You might as well play the clip because
it might have the little kicker in there.
The gas stations were charging 1,000 times
more.
Like if you bought a $20 gallon of
gas, it was $20,000 or $2,000.
I think it was 100 times more, 100
times.
And it was all because of a software
fix.
Yeri McLaren used her debit card for gas
at the 7-Eleven in Pinal.
She went inside to buy a Powerball ticket,
but her card got declined, so she used
her cell phone to check her bank account
right there in the store.
And then that's when I got the shock
of my life.
That ticket gas that I put in wasn't
$79.34 like I had thought.
It was $7,934.
7-Eleven charged her 100 times what the
amount should have been.
Yeri told me the clerks were not helpful.
And they didn't shut the pumps down until
I threatened to call the police and the
Better Business Bureau.
After many calls and emails, 7-Eleven finally
refunded Yeri's $7,900 and gave her an
extra $500 for her trouble.
How did this happen in the first place?
An internal company email obtained by the i
-Team cites a recent software update and says
it appears the decimal point moved over for
the pending transaction.
7-Eleven's corporate office in Irving, Texas tells
me that a payment processor error affected six
stores.
7-Eleven emailed me, we are actively working
with a payment processor to reverse these charges
as soon as possible.
But this customer has not heard from the
company and it's been more than a week.
So the story I wanted to give you
but couldn't find a clip for was the
power outage in San Francisco.
It wasn't huge, it was 130 homes and
businesses.
But the minute that happened, and this was
Richmond, Sunset, Presidio, Golden Gate.
So did you even see any of that
or hear anything about it?
No, 130 houses, this is common.
Yes, it's normal for California.
Well, anywhere.
But the Waymo cars all stopped the minute
that happened.
Oh, that's interesting.
They just parked right in the intersection, like
wherever they were, they just stopped.
Yeah, yeah.
They're going to have to fix that.
Yeah.
Well, this story about the credit card run
up of 100x has some dubious aspects.
For one thing, when you have a debit
card, it usually has a limit that's reasonably
low because they're always fearful that debit cards
are going to get ripped off.
Yeah.
That's around, typically with most cards, it's $400.
Yeah, good point.
You can't get a $7,900 bill on
a $400 limit debit card.
It just can't be done.
So there's that element.
Yeah.
The whole thing is, I don't know.
Wait a minute, the news is just full
of crap today.
It's just all lies.
It is.
I think it's just that way all the
time.
No.
What?
Yeah, gambling.
Which brings me to a clip.
I mean, we could play the Minnesota Fraud
clip, but I want to play this clip
because it's kind of floating around and I
thought I'd play it.
This is from 2018.
This is Megyn Kelly.
And this just shows you, this is when
she was working for NBC and she was,
you know, had to get her millions.
She had a $60 million contract.
Some ridiculous contract.
And so when you're working for somebody at
that kind of money, you say what they
tell you to say and you end up
with something like this.
And I always want to say, this is
classic media problem.
This is the media in a nutshell.
It just epitomizes everything that's wrong with the
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So, if anything, you're proving that Megyn Kelly
will say whatever she has to for money
because now she's so anti-trans, it's not
even funny.
Yeah.
The comparison between the two.
So did she have an awakening?
No, she had a different payee.
Gold!
Gold!
She has a different person signing the checks.
I mean, this is the problem with everybody
in the media.
They're dishonest.
This is just basically dishonesty.
I just have one series of clips.
I see you have a clip from PBS,
but I got a couple of clips from
it because I thought it was my beat.
So I'd like to take the surveillance pricing,
if you don't mind.
The reason my clip, which you should probably
play initially, confirms that the problem was the
terminology.
And I didn't fully understand because you're going
on and on about prices and the rest
of it.
And we had a letter from one of
our producers that talked about how they change
prices at the stores.
They don't do it that way.
Well, what he said, he was saying, oh,
surprise, surprise, you pay more when Instacart delivers
it.
That's what he was saying.
Yes, the Instacart prices is different.
You play my clip and then you can
play yours out.
If you're going online to buy some last
minute gifts, there's a chance the price you'll
pay will be influenced by what's known as
surveillance pricing.
That's the practice of some retailers to use
the power of A.I. to sift all
sorts of personal data to set individualized prices
online.
Things like your age, gender, geographic location and
even browsing history could change the price you
pay.
Ali Rogin spoke with Jay Stanley, senior policy
analyst for the Speech, Privacy and Technology Project
at the ACLU.
Thank you so much for joining us.
So what is surveillance pricing and how does
it work?
Surveillance pricing is basically when companies gather a
huge amount of data about their individual customers.
And we're living in an era where more
data is being collected about us than ever
before.
Companies take that data and they use it
to try to figure out basically how to
wring more money out of you when you
buy things from them.
What is your pain point?
What are you willing to pay?
Questions like that.
And there's widespread experimentation happening with that kind
of pricing in a number of business sectors
today.
Yes, that yeah, that basically is my my
first two clips was good because now I
can continue on.
Get a little bit deeper into this.
And of course, this is really machine learning.
And he'll say AI, which is just a
code name for machine learning.
This has been around for a long time.
It is just more data, by the way,
when you have more data centers and you
have AI sucking everything up into the corpus,
that's kind of handy.
And they have real brain scientists working at
these outfits, specifically when it comes to pricing
and recommendations, pricing, price points, etc.
How do I know my sister PhD works
for one of these companies and is actually
well, she does the she helps customers implement
it.
But this is this has been going on
for a while and it's only gotten better.
So what are some examples of that?
How are these companies using the massive amounts
of data that exist about all of us
online to give us these?
I've heard it described as like personalized pricing.
I mean, right off the bat, there's a
lot we don't know because, number one, they're
going to claim trade secrets.
Number two, they're using AI, which is very
opaque in the first place.
Even the businesses may not understand what the
logic of the AI they're using is.
But this first came into public attention when
the president of Delta Airlines, speaking to investors,
said that they were planning on using AI
to set an increasing proportion of their prices,
their airline prices, and that they would use
personal information about people to do so.
That created a bit of an uproar in
Congress and elsewhere.
And Delta backed off and said, no, no,
no, we're not going to do this.
But it really put the issue, which has
been out there for 10, 15 years on
a low-key level, really put it into
the headlines recently.
And so we're seeing attention by Congress, by
state legislatures, by the Federal Trade Commission, and
others.
There was a recent report that Instacart has
been doing differential pricing.
A consumer group did a test and they
found that 75% of the products on
Instacart were getting set with different prices with
different people, with some of the prices 23
% higher for some people than for others.
The Wall Street Journal has reported that retailers
like Home Depot were setting different prices for
different customers, with customers in affluent areas actually
getting charged less.
I think that there's a lot we don't
know about what's happening, but it's definitely going
on.
As a quick aside, FTC announced that Instacart
paid a $60 million fine in consumer refunds,
I should say, to settle a lawsuit over
allegations it engaged in deceptive tactics.
It almost to me sounds like, oh, man,
if you leave us alone on this, we'll
settle this bit of it.
And the deceptive tactics were they automatically enrolled
you in some things without telling you, but
it wasn't really about this differential pricing because
that's it.
There's a difference between dynamic pricing, and that's
the terminology.
So dynamic pricing, it changes based upon demand
at the time and differential or surveillance pricing.
Can I ask just an overview question?
Yeah.
How does this surveillance pricing differ from where
people pay different amounts of money?
From going into a car dealership and dickering
about a car price and then coming up
and down and going back and forth with
the manager and coming back and forth and
back and forth.
And so I pay $52,000 for the
Chrysler and then you go in there and
you really are good at it and you
pay $48,000.
Somebody else pays full ticker, ticker price of
$60,000.
How is that different?
Well, there's a negotiation that took place.
There's no negotiating and there's no way you
can say I don't want to pay that
other than I don't want the service.
Don't you think there's a virtual negotiation going
on?
Because, for example, the little kicker in that
little report there, it said that people in
affluent areas paid less.
Because people in affluent areas, sometimes the reason
people are affluent is because they're cheap.
They're cheap.
They don't buy retail.
So the legalities, I have two clips.
The legalities in the second clip.
First, let's define the difference between the two,
which you kind of need to understand where
it probably isn't legal, what they're doing versus
your car dealership example.
What is the difference between this type of
surveillance pricing and some other examples and types
of differential pricing that we've seen out there
already like dynamic pricing?
I think that the core element of surveillance
pricing or personalized pricing is that it's based
on data they have about you.
It's different from, you know, charging more for
an umbrella when it's raining.
It's different from Uber charging different prices at
different times of day depending on the amount
of demand for their cars.
Although there have been allegations that Uber, for
example, charges more to people whose battery is
about to die.
By the way, I thought that was phenomenal.
And it makes total sense.
Your Uber app is monitoring your battery level.
And if you're ordering an Uber and your
battery is at 5%, they're going to jack
your price up.
Is that data available?
Can anyone confirm that?
Oh, absolutely.
I mean, you just say, yes, I agree
to all the things that this app can
access.
I've looked at those lists and I've never
seen one about battery.
Absolutely.
All of them have a version of it
to know if they need to go to
sleep, should they be in the background.
They always ask you, can we have access
to the photos and all the other bullcrap.
Your address book.
I've never seen anything about the battery.
But OK, I mean, I'll go along with
the idea because it is a good idea
if you think about it.
Let me just see.
Let me see.
I'm pretty sure.
Well, I mean, that's the claim that's being
made.
We'll go with it.
You don't have to.
But if somebody out there.
I've just never seen it.
Both Android and iOS have battery APIs that
allow developers to see the current charge level,
whether the device is plugged in or not.
But then you'd have to give them permission
for that.
I've never seen it on the permissions list.
It'll say, can we.
App developers post in the troll room.
Allegations that Uber, for example, charges more to
people whose batteries are about to die and
things like that.
That would be personalized pricing.
Uber has denied that there can be very
complex and sometimes subtle differences among the different
types of pricing.
And that can make it complicated.
But at the end of the day, they
have a lot more information about the way
the world works, about how different people react
to different pricing than any individual does.
And they are seeking to use that advantage
in information against individuals.
OK, according to Gemini, I'm just going to
take that because they're a Google shop.
Under the privacy rules for both Android and
iOS, battery level is considered low risk information
because it doesn't reveal your identity or your
private files.
The system allows apps to see it automatically
without showing you a pop up.
Does that answer your question?
That answers your question.
It doesn't answer my question.
It answers my concerns.
Oh, I'm glad you're going to be picky
about language.
So let's find out what's legal.
All of this is legal, right?
And the corollary question to that is what
regulations exist or should exist to put some
guardrails around this practice?
It's not totally clear that it's legal.
There's it's a bit of a legal gray
area.
There are, for example, privacy laws, state privacy
laws.
This is California's that may have things to
say about this and the way data is
used.
There are civil rights laws that have to
do with discrimination based on anything based on
ethnicity, religion, age, gender, disability status could get
a company in hot water if what they're
doing starts to implicate those things.
There are state consumer laws.
And then there's the Federal Trade Commission, which
has a charge to go after deceptive and
unfair trade practices.
And there could be claims that some of
these fall into that.
And in fact, the FTC has been investigating
this.
They did an investigation, a report last January.
And there's a Reuters report that they're looking
at it again under the current administration.
So if you're a business that are doing
this, you are not necessarily on solid legal
ground.
Is there anything that consumers can do to
protect themselves from the possibility of being targeted
with surveillance pricing?
Yeah, stop.
Stop eating groceries.
Stop.
Just don't eat fruit.
It's difficult.
I mean, at the end of the day,
a lot of these are bigger than any
one of us.
They're social questions.
For example, I mean, one of the big
problems here is that so much data about
us is being collected and flowing to the
companies that give them advantages over us.
And that's because Congress hasn't failed to pass
an overarching privacy law, as almost all the
other sort of advanced industrial countries have done.
That would cut off the flow of data
at the source that is fueling this kind
of strategy.
But certainly you can do your best to
hide your identity when you're searching for prices.
You can do your best to protect your
privacy and be aware of it and, you
know, check and see whether people you know
are getting charged the same price.
So to answer your question, you are the
answer to the question.
How about this?
You said don't eat fruit.
You can eat fruit.
Go to the store and buy the fruit.
It's the Instacart.
It's all these people.
Oh, I have everything delivered.
I mean, come on.
You want to stop this problem?
Put your phone in a drawer.
There it is.
The attack vector is always the phone.
All your information, all your behavioral information.
The attack vector is the phone.
That's a great phrase.
That's it.
But it is.
It is the number one attack vector in
all of our lives.
When you scroll and you just pause, boom,
another data point.
Exactly.
It's true.
When you see the puppy, you're like, oh,
slow down.
You see the cooking demo?
Oh, you're perfect.
You'll see millions of them.
You'll get ads for cheese.
Cheese.
Grated cheese.
You don't even have to grate it.
It comes grated already.
Just ads for cheese is what you get.
Cheese.
Cheese, man.
I'm telling you.
Cheese.
It's all about the cheese.
And just winding it all up, 15 seconds,
because this is, along with your phone, this
is attack vector number two.
Late today, the owners of TikTok signing a
deal to sell the app to mostly American
investors, including Oracle and Silver Lake.
The sale has been in the works for
months.
Congress passed a law last year banning the
app in the U.S. unless it was
sold.
President Trump has postponed the ban through a
series of executive orders.
From what I understand in the deal, they
don't get the algo, which is, I don't
know, the point of the whole thing?
That would, well, eyeballs.
They get the eyeballs.
Okay.
So how much are eyeballs worth?
Silicon Valley guys, they don't think of algos.
They figure out we can do our own.
This is the classic American thing.
I remember this story.
This is from years ago.
Here we go.
When Michelob was sold to Budweiser.
It was a dark day.
This is a long time ago.
And so Michelob sold to Budweiser.
It's a German beer, a very famous beer
at the time.
It was in the 70s, I think.
Was it not the king of beers?
No, Budweiser was the king of beers.
Oh.
And so Michelob was a German beer with
just a beautiful lager.
And they sold it to Budweiser.
And they said, we will send you our
brewmaster so you can make it exactly the
same.
And the Budweiser people said, hey, we know
how to make beer.
Forget it.
With rice.
And that's exactly, yes.
And so that's the way it is in
Silicon Valley.
We can do algos.
Forget it.
Well.
So they don't need the algos.
They just wanted the eyeballs.
So it's Silicon Valley eyeballs.
Yeah.
Well, I'd love to know a little more.
Because this was such a, this was the
number one deal months ago.
Oh, everyone.
Oh, China.
China.
Everyone, hair on fire.
And now it's just, yeah, Larry Ellison bought
it.
Okay.
We knew that.
We know he's doing it for Mossad.
We know he's doing it for the Jews
to spy on us.
I got a note from somebody.
Hey, man, what do you think it feels
like to be on the other end of
those quips you guys are making?
I said, do you even listen to the
show?
What is he saying?
What was that supposed to refer to?
Well, he was hurt.
Whenever I make a joke and say, well,
it's for Mossad.
You know, the Jews are in control.
Which is obvious.
I mean, this is what you said.
You made such a good point.
Satire and mocking should not be done.
Sarcasm in particular.
Sarcasm should just not be done.
No, because people don't get it.
No.
And then they think that I'm serious about
it.
Yeah.
You're a big pro Mossad guy.
Funny enough, I don't get any of those
people with their name in brackets saying, yeah,
you're right, Curry.
They're not falling for it.
So, I don't know.
I guess it's me.
That's true.
It's funny.
You're right.
They're not falling for it.
Those guys.
Those guys aren't falling for it.
Who you're mocking.
Yeah.
Yeah.
They just keep posting in the troll room.
Yeah, Curry.
You're part of the problem.
All right.
Adam Sandler.
Adam Curry.
Hmm.
Hmm.
Hmm.
Just noticing.
Hmm.
Adam.
Hmm.
Adam Carolla.
Hmm.
Hmm.
Hmm.
Just noticing.
That's the term you got to use.
I'm just noticing.
I got no punchline here.
You might as well just cut it.
This is no punchline.
All right.
Off you go.
Jake Paul.
Off I go where?
I've been waiting for Jake Paul.
I mean, I saw the ads on Netflix.
I saw the ads.
I'm like, wow, this is the fight of
the century.
Let's watch a Christmas movie, because I'm not
interested.
So, Jake Paul, what goes out.
Okay, this is going to be the clips
before the break.
Yeah, I think so.
got beaten up by a real heavyweight not
an old guy or anything guys is pretty
much just recently the guy was a head
taller than him yeah he's monster and he
was to two weight classes they had crack
busted Jake Paul's jaw in two places knocked
him through a loop oh no just basically
put him in the hospital oh wow and
so here's the here's a good kind of
report I think this is from the BBC
doctors have fitted youtuber Jake Paul with two
titanium plates to fix his jaw which was
broken in two places they've also removed several
teeth mr.
Paul sustained the injuries during a fight with
two-time heavyweight boxing champion Anthony Joshua last
night in Miami the fight has been described
by some as a dangerous stunt not least
because of the height weight and experience difference
between the two men it was streamed live
on Netflix and was worth millions to both
of them but I've been speaking to boxing
journalist Gareth a Davis and he's been explaining
why it was such a controversial bout boxing's
an inherently dangerous force I've covered it for
35 years people pass away and get killed
in the ring and that was the fear
for Jake Paul that the golfing experience in
class was so enormous apart from the size
as well because Jake Paul is a few
weight divisions below Anthony Joshua that people feared
for his safety and his health um look
he got a beating he had his jaw
broken he had some teeth altered by Anthony
Joshua eventually beat him up in the sixth
round after marinating him for several rounds maybe
carrying him a little bit as well so
it was a one-off but Jake Paul's
an anomaly Rebecca because he is an extraordinary
young man with 70 million followers online and
he wants to push the boundaries of things
I say an anomaly because he was an
athlete growing up and he's fallen in love
with boxing over the last five years it
was a horrible mismatch in many ways but
for some reason for the modern audience it's
very compelling this yeah this is where we
are in our culture this is where we're
at and and you're wait a minute as
you as you sound kind of like you're
condemning it you are the one always advocating
for public executions on television so let's make
sure we remember that yes if I have
the television deal right I can do if
I can be the production with with Brunetti
yes and I you're cutting me out of
the deal already no no for nothing you're
the announcer you're the talent ladies and gentlemen
okay now connected by thousands of megawatts brought
to you by meta because we got to
get a sponsor in there no matter or
in video okay let's go with part part
to Jake Paul say you know a lot
of risks being taken by youtuber Jake Paul
then but also risks for Anthony Joshua I
mean he doesn't want to unnecessarily damage somebody
you probably shouldn't actually be in the ring
against him yeah there's that there's two sides
to that as well with Anthony Joshua one
and some people have accused him of being
embarrassed by Jake Paul but he was able
to go five or six rounds with him
last night here in Miami at the time
no that was for the prop bets no
doubt this this thing was rigged to the
hill say sent to the home of my
Miami Heat the basketball team because people were
shocked that Jake Paul was able to be
so elusive and Joshua missed him the debate
is did Anthony Joshua take it easy on
him till the fifth or sixth round when
Jake Paul got tired should we be allowing
this kind of event I spoke to Robert
Smith the Secretary of the Boxing Board of
Control in the UK and he said he'd
never have licensed it so there is a
bit of criticism of the bout I believe
that as myself as well I don't think
this kind of mismatch should be allowed or
sanctioned again I think this is a one
-and-done as you say what does this
do to the actual sport of boxing though
the point is it sort of become exhibitionism
and actually away from the very technical nature
of the sport of boxing Jake Paul was
actually pretty good last night better than anyone
thought it was going to be but overall
I think it doesn't do a lot for
boxing it did a lot for their bank
balances they're both earns in the region of
50 million each last night I believe 50
million US dollars so it's extraordinarily big in
business terms and it will be a huge
audience on Netflix which is the bigger picture
here by the way as well with what's
happening because of the resonance of 300 million
subscribers to Netflix who are getting in the
sports broadcast streaming business yeah Netflix deal yeah
makes sense 50 mil Netflix well I wouldn't
I would you get your jaw broken in
two places for that kind of money I
like cash flow well it would be flowing
and that blood flow okay here's the kicker
all right the funny thing is Jake Paul
on his jaw broken last night and within
half an hour he's in the hospital putting
pictures on Instagram of him in the bed
and the kind of x-rays of his
jaw being fixed almost like a trophy from
something he had achieved on the night you
know and tens of millions of people have
viewed it on Instagram so we have to
be careful about what the game is here
hmm yeah it's all about the clicks the
odds for Joshua to win in round six
were 12 plus 1,200 is that a
lot yeah that's that's well that's a ridiculous
those that means you'd have to bet $1
,200 to win one so it's Joshua round
one 250 round two 350 five nine hundred
six twelve hundred and then go the distance
right hmm so those odds are don't seem
to be put up right correctly yeah but
money maker whatever the case it was there
was probably a yeah I think when you
said prop bet there's probably some element of
truth to that yeah you know let's do
this and then we'll do that we get
that besides getting if you it's not like
50 millions not enough no but let's get
all of our friends in on this deal
let's just let's just face it Netflix is
the king they figured it out they know
what we degenerates really want we want this
kind of blood with an influencer I mean
can we get Candace Owens to get in
the ring with somebody and get beat up
that would be interesting to watch but people
would flock to see that yes exactly you
know I got a note from one of
our producers who dated an assistant director who
has worked on some of those Christmas movies
I was complaining about yeah it looks like
the guys come out of gay porn yeah
cuz the guys come out of gay porn
according to this assistant director who this person
dated the directors producers and some talent are
indeed from the porn world we're cheap they
well the problem was that they that this
woman who worked as an assistant director hated
it because the overall vibe on the set
was dead dry and boring zero creativity yeah
just like the category yeah they can't do
dick I am with that I want to
thank you for your courage saying the morning
to you the man who put the sea
and carrying the water say hello to my
friend on the other end the one the
only mr.
John 1698
today on the trolls 1698 listening live to
the best podcast in the universe you know
people Jason Calacanis is now saying of the
the all-in podcast is the best podcast
in the universe he didn't say that yes
he did that we should trademarked it yeah
well you can say what he wants it
this hurts it hurts his credibility because he
listens to our podcast he knows it he
knows the phrase I think he's saying it
just to see if we're watching his podcast
which of course I'm not but my spies
everywhere you know you might be correct my
my mommy spies are every a lot of
people like his podcast oh it's a very
good podcast and he's he's well he's and
he's clean-shaven he has a to see
it's odd to see him with the big
glasses and the clean yeah he looks like
you know there was a he he look
I I know it's gonna it's probably not
gonna go over well with you but with
him he probably might like this comment but
it he looks a little like George Clooney
no he does not yeah I saw Clooney
in one of his movies here when he
went in that black-and-white film he
had his hair pushed back flat and he
just was roaming around doing some goofball thing
he had likes to do and I looked
at him I said that looks like Calacanis
he looks Calacanis hasn't oddly looks enough like
George Clooney that it's noticeable to me he
looks like an accountant now like a CPA
type dude with the glasses like I'm here
to do your taxes I know
we badgered him enough yeah what's that trick
I used to talk like this and he
doesn't talk like that anymore now he's clear
very clear and all that all this week
there was on my timeline somebody somewhere said
well Tom Green invented the podcast Tom Green
what so that's off the wall because Rogan
was on his pot on his video he
was doing a video show from home or
wherever he was and Rogan was like this
I gotta be doing this you know that
was kind of the spark but Joe Rogan
has long long since confirmed where it came
from but it's just interesting how people like
oh I was at WMAU in 1932 when
we were putting up our WAV files on
real audio we were podcasting before Curry came
up with the name podcasting which I never
came up with the name the whole the
whole the whole thing is like you know
it's skewed yeah yeah well people have just
decided that a podcast is you know some
people with cans on talking at a table
that's a podcast on YouTube they don't the
technology is no longer understood honestly you know
it's just not understood it's like and to
be kind of fair about it I mean
we did the the initial idea for the
RSS feed with the enclosure was because we
were on dial-up modems practically we you
know well yeah we had ADSL we had
kind of kind of always on computing the
idea was your computer would download into the
house yeah ISDN ADSL the early cable motors
it what they weren't really fast it wasn't
click and you get the experience right away
but that was the whole genesis of it
so now but you know what people miss
about it is that if you don't put
it on RSS feed and distribute it that
way you have no control and your audience
can be eliminated from you and then you
got to go cry that's the part that
people are missing so I don't care I
mean I was just there I I don't
even think I invented it well I through
God it was a gift from God to
the universe I was just the guy well
I know who invented podcasting it was you
and everyone can you know make up any
story they want who cares it doesn't matter
it was just interesting I'm working with the
original the oh gee yeah oh gee yes
that's the only reason by the way it's
not because you like me because no no
no it's just it's a business like it's
attracted to the dollar signs how'd that work
out for you but didn't work out as
well as I'd hope but it's beside the
point we have a good product outstanding product
it's the best product in the universe people
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I and we did name that value for
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students of behavior this it's our own version
of what was that term begging for money
surveillance pricing this surveillance begging for my yeah
you're right it's begging for money surveillance I
got to say this so I'm getting I
got it I do not understand why people
don't understand the value for value concept and
how it works I get it I got
a thing from 404 media they said oh
we got this that and the other thing
you got all this new story for subscribers
only it's like what do you mean for
subscribers only you know there's never been a
moment where where journalism is is behind a
firewall to such an extent as it is
today you could all even when newspapers were
out there and they cost 25 cents you
could still go to the library and and
the sparrow sticks they had these sticks with
the newspapers on it yes the roll up
sticks big giant stick and the newspaper would
be and you'd read the newspaper that you
free it was free it was always free
brought when television came into being it was
always it was always designed to be free
and people would say well I don't like
advertising so they created public television and said
no advertising just give us some money if
you want to donate and it was the
same it was that was the value for
value thing it's like and that churches of
course have been using value for value forever
they don't charge you to go into the
church you go and you want to hear
a free sermon you can get it you
don't have to give him money but if
you feel that was worth something you give
him it's not a big deal and it's
and it's a very common practice and it
works and the fact that people put stuff
behind firewalls especially journalists and I'm including Matt
Taibbi in this he does it it's it's
not right you know what I don't think
I've ever told you this story but when
Tina was first going to church here and
then I was you know doing the show
the same as I've always been doing it
but I'd like to get up at 7
o'clock and you know then do this
prep and do the show and go through
in one in one deal these days I
get up early prep go to church come
back prep and then we do the show
but I would be watching it on YouTube
and and so to me it was just
I it was YouTube and I was seeing
this YouTube stuff the whole time and as
she come home we discuss it and then
so eventually we have a dinner with Pastor
Jimmy and his wife Damonette and the first
thing that comes out of my mouth is
how Pastor Jimmy I love your show and
he starts cracking up not like he says
yeah I guess it is kind of Tina's
like oh my god what did he just
say I said yeah you start off you
got your your worship team which is Christian
for band then you got your promos because
they got promos then you get your donation
segment then you got your your deconstruction and
they wind up with another song it's a
complete show and yet they are the OG
value for value and they just said hey
do you want to support us this is
this is where it's going this is what
we're doing this is what what happens with
it and no one's holding a gun to
your head you're absolutely right but we studied
some of the big megachurches early on didn't
we yeah yeah there was a guy who
was a who put a book together I
can't remember the name breaking the glass or
something he had he tried to buy all
the books back because it was too revealing
and it was a megachurch it was that's
true and the it had all the tricks
and every little thing you can do to
get more money out of people and it
was like wow these guys know what they're
doing that the megachurch guys are no slouches
no no no they've got a lot going
on and they come in from all kinds
of dimensions they're very talented at maintaining a
big operation I always loved the guys like
how's that one guy he's kind of icky
yes like three jets and then you know
some some girl right you're taking a Copeland
Copeland yeah so hopelessly the ickiest of the
group yeah and some some journalist comes up
and starts at the airport and he's like
no I'll be I went to spread the
gospel around the world I flew for 26
hours you know it's like I don't know
I don't know that seems seems a bit
much one of my favorite guys on this
group is it was Robert Tilton another Texas
preacher I've heard of him yeah Robert Tilton
yeah yeah he's kind of disappeared he did
a lot of he would he would he
would scrunch his face up and all kinds
of weird contortions that's what you talk and
it was just like wow you couldn't keep
your eyes off him because he was always
scrunching his face up and then he would
just out of the blue while just saying
whatever he was talking about go right into
tongues yeah you're not supposed to do that
in public well he does it did it
all the time and he was very very
entertaining character but he was he always seemed
like a like a scammer like a lot
of these guys seemed like to me and
but the one I still like the most
I think in terms of it just his
ability to do not that this is not
boring people stiff with this discussion but but
I still think Joel Osteen is one of
the he's very successful but I think he's
underrated he is I think he's incredibly talented
guy you know what's interesting about him is
he takes no money from the church he
gets all his money from his books that
what he says let's send our accountant Jason
Calacanis to investigate hey you'll see I'm here
investigate she was showing always money floats anyway
so that was a little discussion a little
side street we took there on value for
value we accept multiple versions of value for
value turns out churches use this as well
we didn't even know this when we said
time talent and treasure I love it when
people send me some some pastor just talk
about time towns and treasure this guy must
be listening to the show even though this
version going on for hundreds of years but
I I didn't know it at the time
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we have sir Donald Winkler stepped up he's
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you know there's really been a lot of
really nice discussions around Christmas on the show
he says it's going to be very nice
and happy and friendly and I'm like I
don't believe it I'll see it when I
when I hear it so that's that's an
incredible and he says you know I used
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and so I'm really happy I can support
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out with the prompt jockeys that are now
consider themselves artists yes it's a fabulous new
era so scaramanga set me know because he
did an end of show mix for for
the show and also a on X he
put it he did a video for it
which is always kind of cool it's like
a bonus and he says no I got
no problem with it he says I just
feel like this scaramanga turn against us on
the old no agenda social once before I
think he this is he's this is his
personality BB BPD babe maybe he's doubling down
he's doubling down no I don't think so
I think apparently as a some kind of
supermodel life which now it all makes oh
now it makes sense right and makes me
occupied he said maybe we should limit uploads
to two or three says there's just too
much slop I said that's we're not we
can't limit how many no I'm upload the
other thing the other thing he ignores since
we're the art directors in this in this
regard even though you know we're not technically
but yes we are technically yeah is that
you want everything we you know it's like
the photographer you know there's two kinds of
photographers the guys always make the perfect shot
and the guys who take 1,000 pictures
called spray and pray and they just take
a thousand pictures and they find one of
you that looks good yeah we know we
don't we there's no reason to limit if
you want to submit a hundred pictures if
there's a hundred the exact same picture don't
do it but you know be judicious yeah
it was kind of I took it about
like there's not a slight against us you
think we know we're not telling people what
to do no we're not telling people what
to do ever that's our motto but you
should support us with your cash yeah we
tell them that yeah so Jeffrey Rhea did
the artwork for episode 1826 we titled it
the sauerkraut kid which is the German version
of noodle boy and I couldn't argue with
you on this one it was a pretty
piece of AI no agenda curry Dvorak a
little microphone they're always so original little microphone
and little transmitter waves but if you hate
it yeah but it said give these guys
a bonus and that little money bags and
gold coins and yeah how could I argue
with that it was our subliminal subliminal messaging
give these guys a bonus yeah yeah exactly
so we chose that we chose it over
oh man there's already a lot up there's
been doing a lot of comic book looking
covers and yeah we kind of like Darren's
eggnog no agenda eggnog we did like the
eggnog that was probably came in second yes
it was a classic you like the the
comic book the media deconstructionists comic book punk
rock album work art yes I did like
that I like the one next to it
too I like all these comic book ones
but they're not gonna and I you since
you hate them to such a stream I
said hanging up print it out and hanging
on your wall if you like it so
much man and I did but we did
give a special mention to blue acorn for
the disappointed scaramanga walking away from his easel
so yes that was cute it's on page
two and we also had Jeffrey Rio with
the razor blades in the bread yeah we
didn't think that was a great connection to
make with the show yeah we're putting razor
blades in no yeah yeah it was a
associative issue yeah people have to understand that
a little bit what people did send me
is because this came about as we were
talking about they were talking about PC magazine
and photographers and they and so people sent
me that wired picture where you were supposedly
in a trench coat looking like some kind
of spook that was done yeah that photo
it's funny it's a good picture you know
it's a great picture I haven't I hadn't
give me a copy of it that was
done with a infrared filter that coat was
actually dark navy different color interesting it wasn't
changed I mean because it was an infrared
filter the whole shot was done with an
infrared hold on a second kids come over
to your boomer uncles for a second back
in the day we'd go out with the
camera and we had something called a camera
case and this isn't like a case that
you put around your iPhone so if you
drop it it doesn't shatter into a thousand
pieces the case had things in it like
extra film it had different lenses that you
would click one lens off and click another
lens on and it had filters which are
these little pieces of glass I guess I
don't know what it was plastic glass and
you would screw those on to the lens
itself to get certain effects can you believe
how analog the world was back then so
that's what he shot and yeah it was
a funny picture cute but that was that
finally you that's the one we finally ended
up with that was shot over at Golden
Gate Fields by the horse park and that
was after he tried to get me to
jump stand on my head you know stick
my tongue out all the other stuff that
I say that you just refuse to do
and so I kept refusing to do everything
until that picture came out but did that
there's all kinds of ugly troll talk about
you and Jolie Odell I'm just gonna have
to look away Jolie Odell yeah I must
look away from it they're saying horrible things
what's Jolie Odell got to do with it
nothing nothing and then of course the fabulous
interview with it the hit piece that would
turned out to be not a hit piece
I got all that now I got all
of I have I've been archived now of
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I'm working with you man so I can
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I'm concerned Sleepy divisive And a fan of
a young Donald Trump These are just some
of the descriptions To be found in a
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Of all US presidents Including Donald Trump himself
While the plaques may look like Many official
markers They are written in the style of
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His haphazard capitalizations And numerous exclamation points They
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of his predecessors Joe Biden who was referred
to As Sleepy Joe And by far the
worst president In American history Is still the
only leader Not to have his portrait in
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pen With his signature was used Barack Obama
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figures In American history While Ronald Reagan was
described As a fan of President Donald J.
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White House The White House confirmed the plaques
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installation Is just Trump's latest effort To remake
the White House in his own image And
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then It's a massive troll He's actually embarrassing
This is the Trump renaming the Kennedy Center
Oh this is another good one Friday revealing
the new Trump-Kennedy Center To the horror
of the late President John F.
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is beyond wild that Trump would think Adding
his name in front of President Kennedy's name
Is acceptable Next thing perhaps he will want
to rename JFK Airport Rename the Lincoln Memorial
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up Ex-officio members of the Kennedy Center
board Said federal law established the center As
a memorial to President Kennedy And prohibits changing
its name without congressional action But Trump also
moved ahead Rebranding the Department of Defense Without
congressional approval We're signing an executive order today
So far no vote in Congress Making the
Department of War official That change implemented worldwide
Would reportedly cost $2 billion So By the
way the Democrats After changing Ford Hood to
some other name Changing all these Fords and
then tearing down statues That was fine And
by the way it was named by LBJ
A year after he was assassinated Probably more
like LBJ Like yeah I did that You
know Okay The president has also been very
busy with his pen No auto pen with
him The ensuring American space Superiority executive order
This is a doozy Yes My administration will
focus its space Policy We need a space
policy on the show We do On achieving
the following priorities Of course leading the world
in space exploration Expanding human reach And American
presence in space By colon Returning Americans to
the moon Returning Returning Americans to the moon
by 2028 Through the Artemis program To assert
American leadership in space We're already there Lay
the foundations for lunar economic Development Prepare for
the journey to Mars And inspire the next
generation of American explorers Along with that Establishing
initial elements of a permanent Lunar outpost By
2030 To ensure A sustained American presence in
space And enable the next steps In Mars
exploration This is fantastic Enhancing This is for
Elon Enhancing sustainability and cost effectiveness Of launch
and exploration Architectures including enabling Commercial launch services
and Prioritizing lunar exploration Thought we explored that
thing already And then there's some Missile stuff
by 2028 To kill everybody Ensuring the ability
to detect Characterize and counter threats To the
United Space Interests from very low Earth orbit
And through Cislunar space Cislunar space S-C
-I-S-L-U-N-A-R What
is cislunar space?
I have no idea Is that like a
white Asking a machine You have not talked
to the robot for weeks I don't want
to talk to the robot Situated between the
Earth and the Moon Cislunar Well what is
cisgendered then?
Between the Earth and the Moon Okay Yeah
I've given up on the robot It takes
too long for the robot to respond If
the robot Could just, you know, you say
hey robot And the robot says yes, yes
master What can I do for you AI
just doesn't do that yet It's not a
great conversational partner So The Zeds are at
it again Oh no, are they in Discord?
I don't know They don't say And they
don't even mention it as though it was
a Gen Z revolution or anything But it's
going on A Zed uprising once again This
time it's in Korea And they kind of
soft peddled it I don't know exactly why
And I'm not absolutely sure who's behind it
I mean I still have to assume it's
our intel people But I don't know But
listen to this South Korea recently marked a
year Since President Yoon Suk-yool's Failed martial
law attempt While the country's new leader is
trying To move on from the chaos and
division Mr. Yoon is finding new fans Amid
disaffected young people Did young people Did young
people Earlier this month thousands took to the
street Calling for Mr. Yoon's release from prison
And claiming that his martial law Was justified
Our Seoul correspondent Jake Kwon Sent us this
report Hmm, okay Well that's interesting This is
against China So kids actually are going to
the streets Saying get a politician out of
jail That's how the Gen Z This is
that Korean president Who declared martial law if
you remember It was during a couple years
ago Yeah I remember it He goes nuts
and declares martial law for some reason And
they throw him in jail And now the
kids want him out Because he was so
loved by Gen Z Yeah It makes nothing
but sense No it doesn't They try to
explain it as best they can I'm standing
in front of the iconic Gwanghwamun Gate where
South Korean people Gather every weekend to protest
And in front of me Are thousands of
people here Waving South Korean flag And waving
a sign that says release Yoon Seok-yool
And martial law was justified It really has
this air of a festival Rather than a
political rally One booth invited people To a
mock presidential podium To declare martial law Like
Mr. Yoon had done Last December In the
middle of the night Mr. Yoon had put
the country under military rule He had made
baseless claims That Chinese spies have stolen past
elections And that the opposition party Was complicit
When Mr. Yoon was eventually removed from the
office And jailed It was considered his political
death But now he has a new life
Among these young people As a hero who
opposed the Chinese takeover Hello Nice to meet
you This is Park Joon-young The leader
of Freedom University He and his group of
far-right students Are behind these pro-Yoon,
anti-China rallies Korean people's rights are being
stolen Our sovereignty is at risk And the
Chinese are coming in Without visa And crimes
are becoming frequent Their claims were refuted Over
and over by the government The police stats
show, in fact That the crime rate among
Chinese Is lower than among South Koreans Oh,
this has us written all over it Doesn't
it?
The whole Trump agenda Lock the borders down
These Chinese are coming Just replace Trenderagua Or
Venezuelans or Haitians I can't wait until An
actual Korean says These Chinese are eating the
dogs That will be coming The victory comes
close Their protests are more energized and provocative
Than any other this country has seen In
a long time Most people joined us because
of a simple message Korea is for Koreans
Today Park's message Spread through social media Is
drawing in young people Who share his suspicion
on China I'm Lee Min-sung 27 years
old There are times when I don't hear
Korean on the street Even when I go
to the corner store I only hear Chinese
That really scares me Here in Seoul They
wear red hats with the words Make Korea
Great Again And if the American youth voters
Swung over to bring back an impeached president
Why not in Korea?
For years These people have held a deep
grudge For what they saw as lack of
opportunities And overbearing woke politics And when Mr.
Yoon Named the enemy They signed up to
fight See unlike you, I'm going to give
you a full clip of the day for
that Clip of the day You always give
me like Weak like Borderline Oh I deserve
it so much That was good Well that
one was pretty good Because you caught you
off guard You only give me clip of
the day when it's something you never heard
about Well yeah that's why it's clip of
the day Of course if I'd already heard
about it Then I would be playing it
before you Because I control the clips I'd
be like I'm going to grab that clip
of the day And then you wouldn't give
it to me because I had that clip
Yeah That's exactly how it works Without the
voice So this is you're right This has
got us written all over it It's pretty
good And they got the hats Really Make
Make Korea Great Make Korea Great They probably
Have it in Korean It probably has a
different look to it I'd like to get
by the way anyone Any Korean listeners I
want the hat If it's in Korean Yes
we want a hat So the Mo Prophecy
strikes once again Mo's prophecy if you recall
Was all of the DEI ladies Who were
put up in important positions Yes set up
to fail Set up to fail blamed for
everything In this case I believe that DC's
police chief Pamela Smith Probably was really Set
up she is being accused Of Fudging crime
Statistics And so she's Resigning And then in
her resignation she says no no I didn't
change it they changed It insinuating that they
are Blaming her and she Had quite a
meltdown over It during her resignation speech Never
would I Compromise my Integrity never would I
Compromise 28 years In law enforcement For a
few folk Who couldn't stand to be held
Accountable And if I had to do it
all over again I'd do it again So
she Wait She pulls out the angry black
woman As a methodology What is she nuts
Let's continue the clip I'd do it again
So I'm going to the bible when I
Say this to my haters F you The
same folks Who said in that report That
they changed their numbers And I did not
The report is very clear I did not
direct anyone You should investigate those folks So
I tend to believe her But you made
an interesting Point there when I heard And
I had to listen to the clip Three
times I'm like I have Heard this lady
somewhere This is going to come across as
Very racist but no one will be able
to Argue with me that this Lady doesn't
sound like a different lady Never would I
Compromise my Integrity never would I Compromise Everybody
in Cleveland low minority Got Obama phone Keep
Obama in president you know He gave us
a phone Come on man it sounds a
lot like You love that Obama phone girl
Everybody in Cleveland low minority Got Obama phone
Keep Obama in president you know He gave
us a phone I got the note from
our Female black producer she's like Do you
only play black women when they're mad I'm
like well It's the funniest we play the
funniest Clips and said how about Nicki Minaj
I'm like send me a link She didn't
send me a link anyway I just saw
that Nicki Minaj Was on stage at America
Fest with Erica Kirk I'll get some clips
For the next show Nicki Minaj is She's
got her head on straight man It's very
surprising she's taken I think she Can be
an important part of the movement In America
for the young Kids she got something going
on She's been like I said Last show
she's been a Republican for a while She
voted for Romney We have to remember that
Romney sucks Let me hear that lady again
I love her Everybody in Cleveland low minority
Got Obama phone He gave us a phone
She doesn't have the Romney sucks in there
I gotta get the Romney sucks part Anyway
Another mo prophecy coming True as far as
I'm concerned I always thought it was a
good prophecy Let's go talking about Angry black
women Let's go to the Minnesota That's right
Hakeem Jeffries is the guy Angry black woman
Here's the Minnesota fraud Two clips and one
of them I think the second clip when
Hakeem Jeffries comes out Is hilarious but I
kind of have to agree The chairman of
the house oversight committee Is warning he may
issue subpoenas If he does not get cooperation
From Minnesota officials Over the billion dollar taxpayer
fraud scheme In that state Officials say this
could just be the tip of the iceberg
Across the country Chairman James Comer says Minnesota's
governor And attorney general have provided only Minimal
responses so far Here's congressional correspondent Bill Malush
They got nothing to run on Except complain
about this So you complain at me You
bring it at me but I'll have it
fixed And then we'll see how you talk
about it Minnesota governor Tim Walz defiant today
As house republicans accuse him and Minnesota Attorney
general Keith Ellison Of stonewalling their investigation In
a widespread Somali social services Fraud in the
state Well they're not cooperating with us They're
acting like there was no scandal And if
there were a scandal They didn't have anything
to do with it Oversight committee chairman James
Comer Tells Fox Walz and Ellison's initial Response
to the committee's questions Was quote anemic Providing
no substantive information On how Medicaid is paid
out In the state We're going to start
bringing people in We're going to start subpoenaing
people We're also going to be looking at
bank records That's my favorite way to conduct
an investigation On Thursday the U.S. attorney
in Minnesota Announced that at least half of
the 18 billion dollars paid out by Medicaid
To Minnesota run programs May have been fraudulent
With at least 14 programs exploited The magnitude
of the fraud in Minnesota Cannot be overstated
Staggering amounts of money Yeah I've been Following
this and reading some of it It's pretty
brazen Particularly the autism fund You know Basically
they were setting up Autism What is it
Therapy stuff And just grab some Grab some
Somalis Hey kid go like this You're autistic
in you go And they just took the
money Yeah They were taking money left and
right For countries Whose average IQ in Somalia
Is 65 Well there you go they qualify
These guys are pretty smart for 65 About
taking money I think there's Some scammish underlying
thing Going on here but Of course the
Democrats are all Yeah they're fine these Somalians
are great Yes they're great House Republicans are
expressing Outrage about the fraud on social media
Pointing the finger at Governor Walz But House
Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries isn't impressed With Chairman
Comer or his Committee's probe of Minnesota's leaders
Do you think they should cooperate With the
committee's investigation and do you have concerns About
what's happening in the state James Comer is
a joke An embarrassment An unserious individual And
a malignant clown So clearly there's still some
bad blood there Between Comer and Jeffries after
a dispute About the Epstein files last month
As for the Minnesota fraud Congressman Comer tells
Fox that he is prepared To subpoena Governor
Walz to come in And testify before the
House Oversight Committee If Walz doesn't cooperate With
their investigation Brett Bill sometimes these things take
time What's the next step So you heard
Congressman Comer talk about Wanting to get those
bank records he said specifically What he's looking
for are things called suspicious Activity reports he
wants to try to track What if any
money was sent From Minnesota back to Somalia
Who was sending it who got it How
much of it was taxpayer dollars Alright we'll
follow it Bill thank you But will they
be able to nail Walz is the question
They won't be able to nail anybody If
Comer's involved this is where I agree with
Jeffries He's a joke Yeah I mean what
happened to Hunter Biden's laptop We're going to
connect the Biden Crime family because all I
get The bank records and so what he's
a big banker Oh so look at this
the money's coming From here to here to
here to here And here it is it
shows that there's a bunch of Corruption going
on they're just stealing money left And right
and what Then so I mean it's just
at some point you have to Be annoyed
with certain people that just talk A big
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And it's time for Man Vs.
Machine That is the moment when we select
our end of show ISO And it has
just become a Man Vs.
Machine competition As I tend to choose humans
Who say something Cute or funny And John
chooses to use robots For this segment I
have a real one today You mean a
human?
Do you want to play your real human
first?
No, I'd let you play yours Then I
can defer I had a great time, let's
go I don't like how that cut off
Here's my second one On it like a
hobo on a ham sandwich Okay, that's all
I got Wow Well, sorry I can't just
prompt my way to success Like some So
let's go with the real one This is
Dump A massive dump That was the real
one Okay, so we'll go to Machine Machine?
I don't see Machine Oh, no, I'm just
I got you Thank you Let's start with
Capture It's not audience capture It's audience rapture
Okay I like the writing It's okay Okay,
here's the other one for Effort These boys
get an A for Effort And an S
for sexy It's a little too long And
a little too contrived Because let's face it,
we're not sexy Okay, let's go to Fab
What a fabulous show No, I think It's
not audience capture It's audience rapture I think
that's the one It's the way it says
rapture that just gets me I love it
I'm sorry, what did you want to say?
I was just going to say the weird
thing about those three clips It was the
same voice That's the voice that, for some
reason, if you change the speed It turns
it to a different person And now, everybody,
just in time for Christmas It's time for
John's Tip of the Day Great advice from
you and me Just a tip with JCD
And sometimes Adam Okay, people always want a
Costco wine recommendation So I'm going to do
one This is a cheapie This is the
idea It's a cheap wine for people who
want to have something that's drinkable It's quite
good, surprisingly good For $6.99 Whoa!
That is a deal and a steal all
in one It's super cheap And there's two
versions There's a $14.99 version And there's
a $6.99 version The $6.99 is
better Because you can buy two bottles of
that for the same price So this is
a new wine that just showed up This
is a 2023 Kirkland Cabernet Sauvignon Sonoma County,
California 2023 It's got a maroon label Oh,
that means it's military It's got a maroon
label And the Cabernet Sauvignon is what's highlighted
On the label's writing It just says Cabernet
Sauvignon real big It's $6.99 There's one
that also says Napa Valley Same thing Only
it's got a navy blue label It's $14
.99 It's not as good as this For
the price That's for sure It's a very
If you give it an hour to breathe
So it breathes a little bit This is
a Neither one of these wines Tastes like
Cabernet Sauvignon by the way What do they
taste like then?
They taste like a really good quality wine
A good table wine A general blend A
Bordeaux blend Cabernet has a very distinctive flavor
And I always expect to find Hope to
find it in California wines I find it
less and less because Nobody's blending for it
anymore They've gotten to this idea Well let's
just blend all these grapes together So it
tastes like a Bordeaux If it tastes like
a Bordeaux I'll go buy a Bordeaux It'll
cost a buck more And those little wooden
crates are better But besides that This is
a very drinkable Perfect turkey wine That is
cheap And so this is your Costco tip
of the day Okay so I think I
will buy some of this Costco cheap wine
Because the kids were telling me I call
them the kids, they're in their thirties That
the Hip drink these days Is a mixed
drink Of red wine and Coca-Cola Have
you Ever heard of this?
I have actually What is it called?
It's called a disgrace No, agendafun.com tipoftheday
.net For all of them Nailed it And
sometimes Adam And that ladies and gentlemen Is
a perfect example of the comedic stylings Of
John C.
Dvorak and Adam Curry As set up alley
-oop Bam!
Two points right there Can't get that from
your AI Uh-uh Not gonna happen What
you also can't get is The show that's
coming up After we vacate the stream That
will be Hawk Story with my man Fletcher
There up a little bit north in Texas
And end of show mixes Very Christmas-y
themed We've got Scaramanga with his sweater puppies
MVP with the files Coming to town and
Baron Darren O'Neal With a Gilmore Nation
Christmas You will not want to miss these
They are all in the show notes because
it's AI slop And no one cares about
the rights No one makes any money So
please Make sure you tune in for our
special Sir Donald Winkler End of show Special
show on Christmas And of course we'll be
back on next Sunday So have yourselves a
very merry Christmas coming to you from the
heart Of the Texas Hill Country Right here
in Fredericksburg In the morning everybody I'm Adam
Curry And from northern Silicon Valley where it
remains Inclement I'm John C.
Dvorak We'll see you right after Christmas Until
then take care everybody Remember us at knowagenthedonations
.com Adios mofos Ahoy hoy And such Look
at those Christmas Sweater puppies Oh what a
sight Bouncing so merry and bright Those woolly
wonders Wrapped up so snug Make this old
Santa wanna give Him a hug Christmas sweater
puppies Jing jing jingling All the way Best
gift under The tree Any day If Santa
Asks what I want This year I'll point
To your sweater and whisper Those two Christmas
Sweater puppies Oh what a delight Keeping me
warm on a cold winter's night Those woolly
wonders Wrapped up so tight Baby you're making
Christmas Feel just right Christmas sweater puppies Jing
jing jingling All the way Merriest Cheeriest happiest
Holiday Hey Christmas sweater puppies Fa
la la la la la Yeah that's the
spirit Better
watch out Keep your lawyers nearby Don't delete
the cloud I'm telling you why Epstein files
Are coming to town They're making a list
Todd Blanche checked it twice Some names were
redacted But some aren't So nice The Epstein
files Are on their way down They've got
the grand jury From the Florida case They've
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