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Hello!
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Hello!
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Adam Curry.
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John C.
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Dvorak.
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It's Sunday, December 28th, 2025.
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This is your award-winning Gitmo Nation Media
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Assassination episode 1829.
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With Africa news you can use.
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And broadcasting live from the heart of the
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Texas hill country here in FEMA region number
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6.
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In the morning everybody, I'm Adam Curry.
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And from Brothers Silicon Valley, we hope everybody
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had a happy Christmas.
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I'm John C.
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Dvorak.
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In the morning...
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Yeah, merry Christmas.
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We already went through this.
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Happy Christmas.
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That's what the British say, by the way.
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They say happy Christmas.
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Happy Christmas to you.
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So what's wrong with happy Christmas?
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We already went through this on the Christmas
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show.
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There's nothing wrong with it.
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It's just un-American.
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What's so American about merry?
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That's just what we do.
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We do merry Christmas.
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I think we do merry holidays.
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I just brought the old joke back.
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Yeah, yeah, I know.
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I know.
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But, you know, I hear people saying it
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in the shops.
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Merry New Year's.
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Okay, I'm going with that.
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I'll go with that.
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Happy holidays.
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I don't want to offend everybody.
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Happy holidays.
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Happy holidays.
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Did you say, who was it that just
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posted a video about Kwanzaa?
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It was a newsome.
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Whatever happened to Kwanzaa?
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Kwanzaa used to be great.
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They're pushing it.
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They're pushing the Kwanzaa on us again, John.
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Yeah, I didn't notice a lot of people
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celebrating Hanukkah this year.
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Borowitz did.
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Oh, yeah, no, the Jews celebrated, but they
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didn't post about it because it's not worth
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it.
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It's not worth the aggravation.
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It's not worth the aggravation, exactly.
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Actually, that's a good point.
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You're right.
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I didn't hear too many.
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It's usually Happy Hanukkah, Merry Christmas, and now
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they just dropped to Hanukkah.
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Yeah, I mean, we had a menorah art
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that we didn't post out of fear, out
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of fear for backlash.
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I don't know if it was out of
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fear for backlash, but it could have been.
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I blame Nick Fuentes.
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Yeah, he's definitely partially responsible.
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It's the punk rock podcasters, man.
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That's what they do.
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Rock against religion.
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Look at us.
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We're so bold.
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I expect him to put a safety pin
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through his ear pretty soon.
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I don't see that.
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I've been studying this guy.
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He's not to extol the virtues of Nick
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Fuentes, but I'll say this.
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I think he's a consummate pro.
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If you can listen to him for three
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hours, he never flubs.
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He never says uh.
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He never says um.
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I heard him say um once.
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Oh, wow.
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He never says uh.
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He never says um.
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He doesn't stammer.
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He doesn't stutter.
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He doesn't stammer like I do.
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Well, if he can run the board, then
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there you go.
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I can retire you and Nick Fuentes can
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do the show.
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I'm happy.
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He uses an EV20 and knows how to
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use it correctly.
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He's got an EV20 and knows how to
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work it.
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He's got a terrific voice that's very understandable.
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He is unbelievably talented.
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I think he's the best podcaster working right
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now, even though I think he's controversial.
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Wait a minute.
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We're the best podcast in the universe.
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No, I'm talking about an individual, one of
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those guys who does the solos.
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Solo guy.
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Solo guy.
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Okay.
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No, he's the best podcast.
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We're the best podcast.
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Hello.
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Yes, he's the best soliloquist.
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He's really unbelievable.
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He's a white, and he's not a white
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supremacist.
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He's a white pride, and I consider that
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different.
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But anyway, this is beside the point.
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He's also tricky.
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No, he's very tricky.
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He's the one that nobody can figure out.
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Everybody else kind of knows what these other
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folks are doing.
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I can figure this guy out.
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I know.
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Do you want to roll right into it,
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or do you want to do African news?
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We have African news.
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We have so much African news, it hurts.
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I'm going to push the Fuentes thing until
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we get to African news next.
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I could have put a presentation together.
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I have three clips just to show you
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how he operates, how he does his thing.
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He's so good.
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But to give you a briefing, right now
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he has gone hard against J.D. Vance.
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Oh.
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Well, wait a minute.
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That is what most people are shilling for
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in the North Sea Nexus podosphere.
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Yeah.
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They all want J.D. to be the
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next president.
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Even if it hurts Trump, J.D., J
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.D. Okay.
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He's hard against Vance, but he's going to
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prove his worth, he thinks, or he hopes,
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because he's going to go extremely hard in
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2026 against Vivek Ramaswamy.
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Who cares?
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Well, he's testing himself with Vivek.
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Well, do you want to do these clips
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or not?
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Yeah, I'm going to do the clips.
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I'm just trying to give you a briefing
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on the background, because what happened was— Briefing
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on background.
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Briefing on background.
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So he called Vance's wife a jeet.
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Oh, man.
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Which I didn't even know what that meant.
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I had to look it up and do
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a little research.
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It's awesome.
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So he calls her a jeet.
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So Vance comes out, and as vice president
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of the United States, tells him to eat
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shit.
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You can talk about your wife.
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No one really cares about your wife.
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No, wait.
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I have to set this clip.
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You gave me a clear, audible clue.
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I said it in such a way that
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I could see you.
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But let me finish.
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How long have we been doing this?
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Too long.
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Yeah.
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And you are correct on that last cue.
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But he does—I'm going to give you a
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three-parter here.
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This is a classic Nick Fuentes.
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Part one, he starts you off by creating
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a doubt in your mind, and then he
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does his long soliloquy, and then he does
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a follow-up, which is even better.
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This guy is slick.
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Here we go.
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You can talk about your wife.
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No one really cares about your wife.
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No one cares about any of that.
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We want to know, are we getting an
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immigration moratorium?
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Will you restrain Israel?
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And what the fuck does Peter Thiel have
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on you?
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And what is your relationship with him and
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Elon?
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That's what we want to know.
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You can save the bitching about your wife.
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No one cares about your wife.
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Okay, she's pretty.
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She's gorgeous.
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Your kids look great.
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Whatever.
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No one cares.
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Okay, you did the tough guy shtick.
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You stood by your woman.
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Good for you.
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Now, we want to know.
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And we want to know because this guy
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is being foisted upon us.
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I've never seen anything like this ever.
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Well, you're only 12, so it doesn't surprise
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me.
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Well, he has seen this before.
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This is the key to his presentation.
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He starts off with what I would consider
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a false premise to put a little piece
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of doubt in the mind and open the
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mind of the listener so he can then
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rant at them.
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Well, yeah.
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But the way he describes it, he's never
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seen anyone just foisted on us ever.
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Did Barack Obama come to mind?
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There's a guy who came out of nowhere.
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Next thing you know, he's president of the
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United States.
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That doesn't come to mind.
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Clinton came out of Arkansas, out of the
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blue.
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He was literally 12.
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Well, maybe he was, but the point is
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that he sets you up.
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Yeah.
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Because Hillary Clinton's another one out of the
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blue.
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Who hasn't come out of the blue except
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Reagan?
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John, this is the perfect Zuma Waffen rage
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bait where you talk about Israel, Palantir.
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You like Zuma Waffen?
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I do.
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Thank you.
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The Zuma Waffen.
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That is our new term.
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The Zuma Waffen, yes.
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He is part of the Zuma Waffen.
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Okay, so he's opened you up just a
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little bit, just enough to do the rant,
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which is the long part.
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This is like in journalism, this would be
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the nut graph, only he makes it really
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long.
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And he usually repeats things three times in
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different ways, much like a broadcaster, like a
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Jim Rome or anybody.
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He's very professional at this.
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Limbaugh used to do the same thing.
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I put him in that category, and here
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he goes.
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I've never seen anything like this, ever.
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First of all, this administration's not doing so
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hot.
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Let's get that straight.
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The war in Ukraine is still going on.
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The war in the Middle East is about
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to get started again.
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We don't have mass deportations.
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We don't have a wall.
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The economy's not going so great.
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Epstein files just came out because Congress made
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you release them.
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And yet everyone is telling us already you
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got to vote for J.D. Vance.
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Well, time out.
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This administration's not going well, and he's the
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vice president.
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We're not even a year in.
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They already want us voting in the next
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one.
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Think about how crazy that is.
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It's not even a year in.
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It is 2025 still, and they've already got
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us thinking, oh, we've got to vote in
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2028.
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It's 2025.
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Oh, I'll be 14.
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And you suck.
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This administration sucks.
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So not only do you already want us
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thinking about the next one, this one isn't
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even going well.
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You think we're ready for more?
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We're not even finished with this, and this
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is a pile of shit.
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We've been eating shit for a year, and
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they're ready to blow through any kind of
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a primary.
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Trump has been on the ballot three times.
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It's unprecedented in modern history that you have
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something like this.
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Trump was on the ballot in 16, 20,
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24.
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28 is the first Republican election since 2012
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that Trump was not on the ballot.
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It should be wide open for us to
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decide where we're going to go after this.
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And not only are they telling us, well,
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you've got to get ready to vote again
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in the next cycle.
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They're telling us a decision has been made
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already.
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It's Vance.
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Turning Point is telling us.
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Tucker is telling us.
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Elon is telling us.
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Everyone is already telling us Vance is the
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guy.
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No one chills J.D. Vance more than
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Tucker Carlson, and that's really weird.
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Turning Point, Erica, has crowned Vance the next
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president.
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They've all crowned him next president.
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Who even is this guy?
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You're right.
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Not a single or.
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And he'll never.
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He doesn't.
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He's unbelievable.
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And he just picks one one topic.
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I mean, this is.
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You know, in a way, he's he has
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a limbo type quality to him, too.
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No limbo is definitely in the mix.
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You know, I would throw him back.
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I would say that if this guy was
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if back in the day, he's like he's
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like a 50s Democrat in his mentality.
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Archie Bunker.
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Yes, he's Archie Bunker.
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But without without with more with a Republican
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slant.
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Yeah.
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But it's like he has he would have
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he would have been Edward R.
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Murrow.
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I'm totally convinced of it.
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Yeah.
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And you'd have the Fuentes Awards.
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You'd be getting.
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Oh, yeah.
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Did you get you're up for the Fuentes?
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No, I didn't get a Fuentes this year.
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I guess.
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What kind of spick name is that?
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So he has a.
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So he has the chops.
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And so so he finishes.
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That was the net graph.
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So he goes after the guy and then
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and then to top it, the little icing
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on the cake is at the end in
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this third part when he does these things
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in triples, which is the way to go.
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He he just throws in some discrepant facts
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to confuse you further.
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And they're all explainable.
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But the way he way he pieces them
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in and this is the third and last
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clip.
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It's just it's just a bunch of rando
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things that are just, oh, yeah, there's something.
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There's something wrong.
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Here we go.
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Before he was VP, he was a senator
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for two years.
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Before that, he was a never Trumper.
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Before that, his name wasn't even Vance.
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It was Hamel.
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He didn't even start going by Vance until
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2014.
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Who even is this guy?
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So not only do they want us.
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OK, this administration blows.
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Get ready to vote for the next one.
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And we already have a nominee, even though
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it's the first time in 16 years we're
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going to have a wide open primary.
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And it's going to be this guy that
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no one even knows who he is.
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And if you don't like that, well, you're
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a problem to be eliminated, which is effectively
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what they've told me.
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It's good.
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Yeah, it's entertaining.
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Oh, he's very entertaining.
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He's super entertaining.
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Yeah.
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And he's funny.
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He does bits.
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He does schtick.
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And the thing is, he's not wrong about
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Vance.
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He's not wrong about TPUSA and Tucker and
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others.
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And, yeah, he's exactly right about, well, this
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was Peter Thiel's guy.
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And, of course, we know that Peter Thiel
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is responsible for killing us.
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I mean, that's obvious.
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Palantir.
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Palantir.
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Gaza.
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Killing people.
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Even though we know how weak Palantir really
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is.
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Stuff doesn't really work.
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He doesn't have the North Sea nexus down.
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No, he needs that.
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He needs that.
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He's got kind of a slickness to him
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and professionalism that is so high-end that
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it's as though he had some training.
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Somebody had to have trained him.
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I don't think so.
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I don't think so.
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I don't know.
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You can be a natural, and I've seen
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it, but this guy's over the top when
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it comes to if he's a natural.
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Anyway.
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Definitely, people should check him out.
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Luckily, the Algos picked up a new hero
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on the scene, which I hope you saw
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it, because your algorithm on X is probably
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still crazy women.
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Yeah.
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And now I'm getting a lot of cooking
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videos.
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Cheese.
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Just put some cheese.
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Oh, look at that nice melted cheese.
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Everything.
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I've got fudge with cheese.
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I'm beginning to think these are done by
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the Dairy Council.
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Well, we have a new hero, Nick Shirley.
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Nick Shirley was dominating the Algos, for me
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at least, and for Tina and for other
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people.
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Like, have you seen this guy?
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Nick Shirley has been going around Minneapolis to
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all of the child care and health care
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facilities run by Somalians.
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Nick Shirley's not a new actor.
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He's been doing this sort of thing for
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quite a while.
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That's not what I said.
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I said we have a new hero.
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He's a new hero.
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He's a new hero.
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It's funny you say this, because who just
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told me about Nick Shirley the same way
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you're, like, doing now to the audience?
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My wife Mimi calls.
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Have you seen this guy, Nick Shirley?
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So it's like, yes.
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Yes, he's a hero.
15:16
A list of all of the health care
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companies.
15:20
Loads of them right here.
15:22
We want health care.
15:24
Yes, we'd like to speak about getting health
15:26
care here.
15:26
Why can't I get health care here?
15:31
This is the strangest place I've ever been
15:35
to get health care.
15:37
Just a bunch of different places.
15:41
Health care here.
15:42
Health care right here.
15:43
Another health care company right here.
15:46
There are three health care companies inside of
15:48
this building right here in this room of
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7C.
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Now we have another Helping Hands.
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Home Care LLC.
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Another health care company.
15:57
Present Help right here.
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We're looking for the best rates of health
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care here inside this building, because we have
16:02
so many options.
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Who can we talk about getting the best
16:04
health care?
16:05
I don't know.
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No?
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Sorry.
16:07
All right.
16:08
We will not get any health care here.
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David, this is one of the stranger places
16:12
I've ever been.
16:13
Literally, health care every door you go to,
16:16
yet nobody will give you a rate.
16:17
How much money do you think has been
16:18
funneled through this building?
16:19
Every year, I would say 50 to 60
16:23
million at least.
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This is what you wanted.
16:27
No one's talking about this.
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And, of course, the mainstream media is still
16:31
not talking about it.
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It's astonishing to me that the mainstream media
16:35
has avoided this topic like the plague.
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Well, because it will make so many Democrats
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look bad.
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That's the only thing I can come up
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with.
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I don't see any other reason besides the
16:47
fact that Trump, you know, whatever, Trump, the
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quad screens are all Trump and Zelensky this
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morning.
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I have clips on that.
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I'm getting close to my – I'm going
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to be able to do Zelensky.
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Really?
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You want to give it a shot?
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You want to give it a shot?
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No, I know, because it's one of those
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things that's funny about trying to do voices.
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You do the same thing with your Ruta.
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Ruta, yes.
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You need a trigger.
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Okay.
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And my trigger is a phrase that I
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lost a copy of.
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What's the phrase that pays, John?
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I can't remember.
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If I hear it, I can do it
17:26
and go right into it, but I can't.
17:28
So it's coming.
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It's coming for the 2026 season.
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So I have a couple of different outlets
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regarding the strike on Nigeria.
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All of them get one thing right.
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None of them have the full story, which
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is, I mean, not really surprising, of course.
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Let's start with the BBC.
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President Trump has been making some bold claims
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following the Christmas Day strikes he ordered against
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the Islamic State group in northwest Nigeria.
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Like the attacks on Iran's nuclear sites earlier
18:01
this year, Mr. Trump has declared that the
18:04
U.S. military has decimated its targets, in
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this case, IS camps.
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It's not yet clear how many people were
18:11
killed, but U.S. and Nigerian officials said
18:14
that fighters were among the dead.
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The Nigerians said that there were no civilian
18:18
casualties.
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Mr. Trump told the Politico news website that
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the operation, which was agreed with the Nigerian
18:25
military, was planned for Wednesday, but he chose
18:27
to delay by a day so he could
18:29
give the IS fighters a Christmas present, as
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he put it.
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I love the Christmas present line.
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Here's NBC.
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Oh, Nat Pops.
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Yeah, see, BBC, you're boring.
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You got to spice it up.
18:45
You got to get missile launches.
18:46
You got to get war sounds.
18:48
Your reports are no good.
18:51
Tonight, the first images of American missiles launching
18:54
from a U.S. Navy ship, killing multiple
18:57
Islamist militants in Nigeria, according to the president,
19:00
who posted about the surprise Christmas Day attack
19:02
after repeatedly warning terror groups that if the
19:05
slaughter of Christians did not stop, there would
19:08
be hell to pay.
19:09
And I'm going to jump into that one
19:11
particular little psyop in a moment.
19:13
Nigeria's government now confirming it worked directly with
19:17
the United States to carry out the mission.
19:19
But the foreign minister also pushing back against
19:21
President Trump's claim that Christians alone are being
19:24
targeted by the Islamic State.
19:26
This is not about religion.
19:29
It is about Nigerians, innocent civilians and the
19:35
wider region as a whole.
19:38
The strikes come just one day after the
19:40
president thanked U.S. troops on Christmas Eve
19:42
for last week's attack against ISIS in Syria.
19:46
It was a big attack and you really
19:48
did a big job.
19:49
I know you will continue to show no
19:52
mercy.
19:53
You can't show mercy because they show no
19:55
mercy to us.
19:56
In recent weeks, the U.S. military has
19:58
launched strikes against ISIS targets in Nigeria, Syria
20:01
and Somalia, seized oil tankers off Venezuela and
20:06
earlier this year hit Iranian Revolutionary Guard positions
20:09
inside Iran.
20:10
Back in Florida, President Trump is expected to
20:12
host President Volodymyr Zelensky on Sunday.
20:15
The Ukrainian leader announcing today the two will
20:17
discuss security guarantees and saying a U.S.
20:20
negotiated peace deal with Russia is now 90
20:23
percent ready.
20:24
Even as the Kremlin continues to hammer Ukraine,
20:27
launching new strikes through Christmas.
20:29
So every report was like this.
20:32
Every single report was like, well, Trump said
20:34
it was Christians.
20:35
The Nigerian said it's not.
20:37
But they all missed what this what's really
20:39
going on here.
20:40
So first the PSYOP.
20:42
This has been going on for well over
20:45
a year, maybe longer.
20:47
They're killing Christians in Nigeria.
20:49
They're killing Christians in Nigeria.
20:51
I obviously was interested.
20:54
And when you go and look, they're actually
20:57
killing more Muslims than Christians in Nigeria.
21:00
The so-called ISIS fighters.
21:03
But when I saw the news of the
21:06
strikes, let me see the northwest.
21:09
Do you just off the top of your
21:11
head, do you know where Boko Haram operates?
21:14
The northeast, the northeast.
21:16
Exactly.
21:17
So why is he shooting missiles at the
21:20
northwest?
21:21
Well, the answer came to us with the
21:24
gold price on Friday, which skyrocketed along with
21:29
silver.
21:30
But also you might want to take a
21:33
look at lithium.
21:34
What what was bombed or what was targeted,
21:38
whatever you want to call it, were the
21:41
the rebel groups who are protecting the illegal
21:44
mining operations.
21:46
Nigeria themselves hate this because they're losing out
21:50
on probably $10 billion a year easy on
21:54
mining of gold and lithium.
21:56
And who do you think buys all that
21:58
gold and lithium?
22:00
China.
22:01
This is a move against China.
22:04
This is a move against the rare earths.
22:06
There's a whole bunch of benefits.
22:08
One, Christians go, yeah, Trump.
22:10
I'm sorry to tell you, fellow brothers and
22:12
sisters, that's not the primary reason for this
22:15
attack.
22:15
If the reason at all, this is only
22:18
about minerals and natural resources that Nigeria has,
22:23
that China is getting on the cheap.
22:26
It's to cut them off.
22:28
That's all that it is.
22:29
Complete gold mining and lithium, big on lithium.
22:35
And I'm not quite sure exactly how silver
22:37
fits into it, but, you know, silver has
22:40
been kind of manipulated for 40, 50 years,
22:44
I guess.
22:44
But that's what happened.
22:46
And you saw the spike in price right
22:47
away.
22:48
So none of this has and no one's
22:50
talking about it.
22:51
I don't understand.
22:52
Are they all working for China?
22:55
They don't want to say it.
22:57
I think there is an element of that.
22:58
Now that you mention it, there are some
23:02
Chinese influencers and in the media.
23:07
There's no doubt about that.
23:09
And I will say this.
23:10
I watched Al Jazeera's report on this.
23:12
Do you have a clip?
23:14
And they said they did not.
23:16
And they had three guys, one guy from
23:18
the Council on Foreign Relations, all black guys
23:20
from Africa and all experts.
23:22
And they were pretty good.
23:23
And they said, no, it's bullcrap.
23:24
This is religious.
23:26
He says, and the reason they're killing all
23:28
the Muslims and the Christians and anybody else
23:31
is because it's an Islamist group.
23:34
Two parts of the country, these Islamists mostly,
23:37
and that's that.
23:39
And to say it's not religious is bullcrap.
23:42
They also said that the Nigerian people are
23:44
happy that the United States got involved and
23:46
started bombing the place.
23:48
And the government thought it was great.
23:50
And the government invited them to do it.
23:51
So that kind of flies in the face
23:55
of what everyone might want to think.
23:56
But I think you're totally correct.
23:59
Totally.
23:59
Hello.
24:00
Hello.
24:00
He said it.
24:02
What happened?
24:02
You can't argue.
24:04
That's what we do.
24:05
And any chance we have to cut China
24:08
off at the knees, even though Trump doesn't
24:12
get a lot of credit for it from
24:13
any corner.
24:16
No.
24:17
It's always a good thing.
24:19
And there was a second shoe that dropped
24:22
on this.
24:23
Hold on a second.
24:24
I have it here.
24:27
Where was it?
24:30
No, I'll find that.
24:33
Hold on.
24:33
Let me just listen to CBS.
24:34
Let's see what they had to say.
24:35
Do they have a nut pop?
24:37
The U.S. military fired more than a
24:39
dozen Tomahawk cruise missiles at ISIS targets in
24:42
Nigeria.
24:43
And why are they even calling him ISIS?
24:50
I mean, isn't that supposed to be in
24:52
the savant?
24:54
I have no idea.
24:56
This is just branding for some reason.
24:58
Just call him ISIS.
24:59
That might be it.
25:00
Yeah, branding.
25:01
The U.S. military fired more than a
25:03
dozen Tomahawk cruise missiles at ISIS targets in
25:06
Nigeria.
25:07
And the timing was deliberate, President Trump told
25:10
a radio interviewer.
25:11
They said hit them on Christmas Day.
25:13
It'll be a Christmas present.
25:15
We hit ISIS.
25:16
It was terrible.
25:18
They're butchers.
25:19
People could be seen carrying debris away from
25:21
one target site.
25:23
The Pentagon's initial assessment indicated multiple ISIS militants
25:26
were killed.
25:27
Trump warned last month the U.S. would
25:29
go into Nigeria with guns a-blazing if
25:32
the government failed to protect Christians from ISIS
25:35
attacks.
25:36
They're killing the Christians and killing them in
25:38
very large numbers.
25:40
We're not going to allow that to happen.
25:41
But Nigeria denied those accusations.
25:44
So far this year, nearly 12,000 people
25:46
have been killed.
25:47
CBS News national security contributor Sam Vinograd.
25:51
Violence by insurgent groups, criminals, and others in
25:55
Nigeria doesn't just target Christians.
25:57
It also targets Muslims.
26:00
And where and when these strikes occur will
26:02
certainly be scrutinized by analysts to see who
26:04
exactly is hit and whether the violence stops.
26:08
Nigeria's foreign minister said his government provided the
26:10
U.S. military with intelligence before the strikes.
26:13
We have been working closely with the Americans,
26:18
with other countries, to combat terrorism, to stop
26:23
the death of innocent Nigerians.
26:26
Both the U.S. and Nigeria have signaled
26:28
more strikes could follow.
26:30
All right, so it's like a threefer, you
26:33
know?
26:34
You get one, you get the Christians are
26:37
happy.
26:37
Yeah, I'm telling you.
26:39
Christian broadcast news, you know, all of the
26:43
Christian news outlets.
26:45
Yeah, they're all jacked.
26:46
It's all jacked about this.
26:47
And I'm just saying, no, I'm sorry.
26:49
I think it's a fourfer.
26:50
Give me your threefer and I'll add one
26:51
to it.
26:52
Okay, so the next one is screw China
26:55
out of their resources, which they are not
27:00
obtaining in a good way.
27:02
I mean, they are in effect sponsoring these
27:05
groups.
27:05
And for these groups, kidnapping girls, which really
27:09
happens more in the northeast, but they've kidnapped
27:12
people from churches and from schools in the
27:15
northwest.
27:15
It's a business model.
27:17
It's been that way for decades.
27:18
Let's see, anyone of any value there?
27:21
Okay, we're going to kidnap and get some
27:22
money.
27:23
So that's your twofer.
27:24
The threefer is the gold price, which I
27:27
think benefits the whole stable coin strategy, which
27:30
is supposedly going to start around the second
27:34
week of January.
27:37
And I think maybe a fourth.
27:41
Am I at three or four yet?
27:42
You're at three.
27:44
So somehow the silver thing is funny because
27:49
it completely screws everything, particularly solar panels, EVs,
27:56
the cheap EVs from China.
27:59
I saw like the prices in the U
28:03
.S. were $79 at close on Friday, but
28:06
in Shanghai, $85.
28:08
They're so desperate, and just everyone's trying to
28:11
get silver all of a sudden.
28:13
Do you have any view on that?
28:16
No, not at all.
28:17
But I'll tell you the other little extra
28:20
bonus is by sending those missiles into that
28:23
area, they get to soften up the soil
28:25
a little bit, making it easier.
28:26
Better mining.
28:28
It'd be easier to mine.
28:31
Yeah.
28:32
Send two extra missiles right here.
28:35
Yeah, yeah, exactly.
28:37
It costs more than dynamite, but it's at
28:40
the U.S. taxpayer's expense.
28:43
But the lithium, watch the lithium prices.
28:47
So it's an interesting time.
28:49
There's a lot of interesting things happening, but
28:51
no one is reporting on it properly.
28:53
They're not even reporting on the Somali scammers.
28:59
They don't report on anything.
29:00
The media is shot.
29:03
So I tried really hard looking for anything
29:11
about the redacted documents from the Epstein files.
29:19
And as far as I could tell, I
29:20
could not find a single M5M resource or
29:24
news report that gave us this.
29:26
This is just a 30-second YouTuber telling
29:29
us.
29:30
I'm at justice.gov where all the Epstein
29:32
files are being held.
29:33
And there's a lot of different files that
29:35
have been redacted.
29:36
So you can go ahead and scroll down
29:38
until you get to a redacted area.
29:39
Here's a redacted area right here.
29:41
Guess what?
29:41
If you want to look at these files,
29:43
all you've got to do is copy it
29:45
and paste it into Microsoft Word.
29:49
And guess what?
29:50
All the files are unredacted.
29:53
There it is.
29:54
So go back to justice.org, find all
29:57
those files, and start unredacting before they figure
29:59
out how to stop you.
30:01
So no one is reporting on that.
30:03
And it works?
30:05
It's been reported on Fox.
30:07
I heard it.
30:07
Oh, you did?
30:08
Well, I have a feeling we still have
30:10
a number of these reporters who are part
30:13
of the agency, and they're not allowed to
30:15
look at these documents.
30:16
I think you're dead on.
30:17
Wow.
30:17
Again.
30:18
What is going on here?
30:20
Totally.
30:21
It's Christmas after Christmas.
30:23
So here, we got into a conversation at
30:27
the dinner table about this.
30:30
You know, everybody's an expert.
30:33
Because when the Doge guys came in, they
30:36
fired a bunch of people, and they canceled
30:38
a bunch of software licenses.
30:40
This would be the gossip mill.
30:43
They canceled a bunch of software licenses and
30:46
started using the free Adobe Acrobat instead of
30:49
the one you pay for.
30:50
I like that theory.
30:52
Which doesn't redact properly.
30:55
Yeah, I like that theory, but no.
30:57
My comeback to that was, and nobody could
31:02
argue against it, which is, so you don't
31:04
think they did this on purpose.
31:06
Boom.
31:07
Exactly.
31:07
I think you're right.
31:09
Of course they did this on purpose.
31:11
Of course.
31:13
That was the whole point.
31:15
Absolutely.
31:17
Everyone's like, they're so stupid.
31:19
No, they're not.
31:19
I know they're so stupid.
31:20
No, they're not.
31:22
They're so stupid as the way to play
31:23
it.
31:24
That's perfect.
31:25
Yes.
31:25
And you get all kinds of extra info
31:28
and extra ditties that show up.
31:30
And most of them are useless, by the
31:32
way.
31:33
The stuff that I've seen unredacted is junk.
31:35
And then my favorite story.
31:37
More than one million files, more files potentially
31:41
related to dead pedophile Jeffrey Epstein have just
31:43
surfaced, according to the Justice Department.
31:46
I love the term dead pedophile.
31:49
Somehow the justice...
31:51
The dead pedophile.
31:53
Oh, I didn't pick up on that.
31:56
It used to be financier.
31:58
Now it's the dead pedophile.
32:00
Related to dead pedophile Jeffrey Epstein have just
32:02
surfaced, according to the Justice Department.
32:05
They say the new trove originating from the
32:07
U.S. Attorney for the Southern District of
32:09
New York and the FBI may take, quote,
32:12
a few more weeks to comb through and
32:13
release to the public.
32:15
As the department scrambles to find more volunteer
32:17
prosecutors over the holidays to help redact the
32:20
newly discovered files.
32:21
Now, remember, by law, the Justice Department was
32:24
supposed to release everything it had a week
32:27
ago today.
32:29
So far, we've seen tens of thousands of
32:31
documents over a few sporadic releases, including pictures
32:34
of former President Bill Clinton, emails that mentioned
32:37
Donald Trump's...
32:38
President Donald Trump's name on the Epstein jet
32:40
flight log and an FBI email exchange that
32:44
indicates there are 10 other co-conspirators.
32:47
President Trump weighed in with another stim-winding
32:50
Christmas tirade, saying he, quote, was actually the
32:54
only one who did drop Epstein and long
32:56
before it became fashionable to do so.
32:59
Trump added the Democrats and some Republicans who
33:01
pushed for the release will see their, quote,
33:04
friends, mostly innocent, will be badly hurt and
33:07
reputationally tarnished.
33:09
He then signed off with, enjoy what may
33:11
be your last Merry Christmas.
33:14
Starting off, I'm sorry, that's just a very
33:17
interesting way to end that.
33:19
No, he means it.
33:20
Hello?
33:22
Idiots.
33:23
Yes, absolutely.
33:25
And these new documents, I have a feeling
33:27
they'll also be copyable.
33:29
Just, you know, I like JC's theory.
33:32
That's, it's cute.
33:34
Well, they didn't want to pay for that.
33:35
They just used the free Adobe version.
33:37
Yeah, that's not how government works at all.
33:39
They pay the extra super premium plus they
33:43
do.
33:43
I got to just throw money away.
33:46
This was uncovered, though I did.
33:48
I didn't hear about this.
33:49
This is from the Canadian broadcast news.
33:51
Two years after Canadian Peter Nygaard was convicted
33:54
on four counts of sexual assault.
33:57
The former fashion mogul is making headlines again,
34:00
named in documents released by American officials as
34:02
it discloses more files related to Jeffrey Epstein.
34:05
Peter Nygaard's name appeared in an April 2020
34:08
letter sent by the Department of Justice to
34:10
authorities in the UK seeking to interview the
34:13
man previously known as Prince Andrew.
34:15
The letter reads, in part, the investigation has
34:18
revealed that on at least one occasion, Prince
34:21
Andrew traveled to Nygaard Key in the Bahamas.
34:23
Nygaard Key.
34:24
See, this guy had his own island.
34:27
This gets interesting.
34:29
A location where Nygaard is believed to have
34:31
trafficked minor and adult female victims.
34:34
I've counseled over around 50 survivors of Peter
34:38
Nygaard in the last five years.
34:41
And some of them had certainly mentioned seeing
34:45
him, seeing the former Prince Andrew at Nygaard
34:48
Key in the Bahamas.
34:51
So I wasn't surprised.
34:54
Two other Canadian women appear in FBI intake
34:56
documents accused of grooming potential victims, though not
34:59
by name, identified only as a Serbian-Canadian
35:02
lingerie model and a French-Canadian aspiring model.
35:07
Any piece of evidence has to be confirmed.
35:09
You can't assume it to be true.
35:11
You can't.
35:11
We don't have a conclusion, for instance, that
35:13
the president was involved directly in Epstein's crimes.
35:18
But there's suspicion.
35:19
And that's how investigations work.
35:20
The latest release of 30,000 documents, the
35:23
most voluminous to date, contained many mentions of
35:26
the U.S. president, but did not link
35:28
Trump to any of Epstein's crimes.
35:31
So let's start with that guy who actually
35:34
has been convicted, had his own island.
35:36
Prince Andrew was at his island.
35:39
But it's Trump.
35:40
Let's go back to Trump.
35:42
Trump, Trump, Trump.
35:43
Meanwhile, there's actual work being done on actual
35:47
pedophiles.
35:48
Good evening, everybody.
35:49
I'm Rup Raj.
35:49
We begin with a disturbing case involving prominent
35:52
Metro Detroit professionals arrested on child pornography charges.
35:56
They include a Detroit-area doctor and attorney
35:58
who are both in federal court today.
36:00
Let's get live to Fox News' Charlie Lankton
36:02
in Detroit with the new details.
36:03
And, Charlie, I think you said in the
36:04
tease some of these details are so sickening,
36:07
so gross, they're hard to even repeat.
36:09
In fact, I can't even say some of
36:11
this stuff on television.
36:12
I'm holding up three of the criminal complaints
36:15
against three very prominent, a doctor, a lawyer
36:18
and a psychotherapist, all from the Metro Detroit
36:20
area.
36:20
Why am I yelling?
36:21
Well, why not?
36:22
But they got caught up in an FBI
36:24
sting that actually got them arrested in Toledo.
36:27
And what they found when they raided their
36:29
houses, 155 images of child porn, including movies
36:35
and pictures of the most disgusting things that
36:39
you really can think of.
36:40
And there may very well be more.
36:42
Now, two of the three were in court
36:44
today.
36:44
Hold on a second.
36:46
You know the little neuro-linguistic programming, the
36:50
thing you just heard?
36:52
Which one?
36:53
They're made very well.
36:55
Oh, yeah.
36:56
Well, there's some, yes.
36:58
But it's not, that's not what he was
36:59
saying.
37:00
This is, there may be very, there may
37:03
be well, there may be more.
37:05
Yes.
37:05
I mean, but what you heard was they
37:08
were made well.
37:11
Oh, let me listen again.
37:12
Things that you really can think of, and
37:14
they're made very well.
37:16
Oh, I see.
37:17
You're thinking high quality.
37:19
High quality is what he's saying.
37:21
That's the neuro-linguistic programming message.
37:24
Wow.
37:24
More.
37:24
Now, two of the three were in court
37:26
today, in federal court behind me, for what's
37:29
called a detention hearing, meaning that the feds
37:31
thought these people were so bad they should
37:33
be denied bond.
37:34
One of them said, okay, I'll stay in
37:36
jail.
37:36
The other one said, let's have a hearing.
37:38
The judge said, no, you're staying in jail.
37:41
Why?
37:41
In part because some of the bad stuff
37:43
that came out.
37:44
And this is, and I'm really playing this
37:46
just to make the point that everyone yelling
37:49
about Epstein, they don't really care about the
37:52
kids.
37:53
They just care about Trump or, you know,
37:56
whoever's being blackmailed.
37:59
They don't actually care about what's actually happening
38:02
to toddlers.
38:04
Toddlers.
38:05
According to the criminal complaint, encrypted phone messages
38:08
showed 45-year-old Joshua Ronenbaum was an
38:11
English teacher in Japan who invited 10-
38:14
and 12-year-olds to get naked with
38:16
him and play with their, well, you get
38:18
the message.
38:19
The FBI seized his phone, which showed 155
38:22
images, including a toddler being sexually molested by
38:26
an adult man and numerous conversations discussing his
38:29
sexual interest in children.
38:32
And then Jeremy Brian Takom, 51 years old,
38:35
who lived at the same Palmer Woods address
38:37
with Ronenbaum.
38:39
The FBI seized his phone that contained an
38:41
exchange with an undercover agent, something like this.
38:44
Wish we could find a kiddo and have
38:46
our way.
38:47
Take him to a motel and molest him.
38:49
F yes, brother.
38:50
Are you free tomorrow?
38:51
Any more clips?
38:52
Six additional clips were sent showing an adult
38:55
man sexually assaulting a toddler.
38:58
And finally, Lincoln Erickson, Dr. Erickson, is a
39:02
medical doctor who lives in Farmington Hills.
39:04
The complaint indicates that he's currently on probation
39:07
for domestic violence for an incident in 2024.
39:10
His phone indicates he discussed plans to travel
39:12
to Thailand to sexually abuse children.
39:15
And the details about his friend, who is
39:17
a father to a three-year-old who
39:19
Erickson allegedly sexually abused, forcing the three-year
39:23
-old to perform a sex act.
39:25
Where is the outrage?
39:26
There's no outrage over this.
39:28
Where's the story?
39:29
I never heard any of this.
39:31
Just came out.
39:33
Yeah, no, because it's all bullcrap.
39:37
People, you don't care.
39:38
You just are sucked up into a swirling
39:42
pool of poop of innuendo and QAnon.
39:49
Because it was really Q that started this,
39:50
if I recall.
39:52
And it was the Democrats.
39:54
It was all Democrats.
39:55
And they were sending kids in wayfared boxes
39:58
and kids, kids, kids, everything kids.
40:01
Kids in wayfared, that's right.
40:03
Yeah, I forgot about that one.
40:04
But when actual horrible crime, and these guys
40:07
should be killed.
40:08
Right, did you do it yet?
40:10
Dead.
40:11
Dead.
40:12
No, I have no problem saying that.
40:15
But no, that's not the game.
40:18
Israel, Mossad.
40:18
What ever happened to Nambla?
40:21
They're probably still around.
40:22
Nope.
40:23
I haven't checked.
40:24
I looked them up.
40:25
No, they folded.
40:26
Oh, they did?
40:27
Yep.
40:29
Well, then you know what happened.
40:33
Yeah, they became Democrat Party members.
40:36
I'm sorry.
40:38
It's the best I can do.
40:40
All right, I'm going to do one little
40:41
quick series here just because I predicted it.
40:45
However, he hasn't quite said the phrase yet.
40:49
But we knew they were coming.
40:51
The president saying the collection of ships is
40:53
called the Golden Fleet and will become the
40:54
quote flagship of the American naval fleet.
40:57
Now the Navy has created a website named
40:59
after the fleet.
41:00
It gives people the opportunity to look at
41:02
specs of the ships.
41:03
As you know, we're desperately in need of
41:05
ships.
41:05
Our ships are, some of them have gotten
41:08
old and tired and obsolete.
41:11
And we're going to go the exact opposite
41:12
direction.
41:13
The website states the ships will be up
41:15
to 880 feet long, reach over 30 knots
41:18
and require a crew of anywhere from 650
41:20
to 850 people.
41:23
The ships will also have hypersonic weapons, state
41:25
of the art electric rail guns and high
41:27
powered lasers.
41:29
U.S. Senator Mark Warner says he disagrees
41:31
with the project.
41:32
The one thing the Navy had decided didn't
41:34
need more big ships because of the threats
41:36
from drones.
41:37
It needed more small, mobile, faster, deployable ships.
41:41
Some Navy officials have estimated the first ship
41:43
will cost $10 billion to design and build.
41:46
It's a price tag.
41:47
Retired Navy admiral and founder of the National
41:49
Security Leaders for America, Michael Smith, tells 13
41:52
News Now the Navy can't afford.
41:54
I just don't know how he's going to
41:56
be able to pay for it.
41:57
I think if the first part of that
42:00
sentence was I'm committed to doubling the Navy's
42:05
budget and delivering the Golden Fleet, I think
42:09
that would have been a realistic first statement
42:11
to make.
42:11
The president has also told reporters he expects
42:14
the first ships to be built in the
42:15
next two and a half years.
42:16
Smith also calls that timeline unrealistic.
42:19
My concern is with this president, you have
42:23
to deliver in the time he's saying.
42:25
And so there are going to be so
42:27
many mistakes made.
42:29
No, no, it's not about mistakes.
42:31
It's about one big, huge, corrupt business known
42:35
as the military industrial complex, who somehow the
42:40
lawmakers and money spenders who hold the purse
42:44
strings decided to give even more to the
42:47
military industrial complex than President Trump even wanted.
42:50
So it's now up to just shy of
42:53
a trillion dollars.
42:55
But here is what the president also said,
42:57
which, of course, didn't make the news.
42:59
We'll be discussing the the pay to executives
43:05
where they're making 45 and 50 million dollars
43:07
a year and not being able to build
43:09
quickly.
43:10
They're going to make that kind of money.
43:11
They have to build quickly.
43:13
Again, we make the best equipment in the
43:15
world, but they don't make them fast enough.
43:17
And we're going to be also discussing dividends.
43:20
We want the dividends to go into the
43:23
creation of production facilities.
43:26
So we'll be talking about all capex dividends
43:29
and the pay.
43:32
We're also going to be talking about buybacks.
43:35
They spend so much money on buyback.
43:37
They want to buy back their stock.
43:38
I don't want them to buy back their
43:39
stock.
43:40
I want them to put the money in
43:42
plant and equipment so they can build these
43:46
planes fast, rapidly, like immediately.
43:50
Yeah, exactly.
43:52
Stop with your buyback.
43:54
Stop enriching people like yourselves and get down
43:57
to business.
44:00
There's a substacker that's an ex-spook.
44:04
He went on about this.
44:07
Isn't that an oxymoron, substacker and spook?
44:12
Maybe, close to it.
44:14
And he made the assertion that they've decided
44:17
they're not going to do any of this.
44:20
They're going to keep pocketing the money as
44:22
best they can.
44:23
And they're going to just wait out Trump's
44:25
three years.
44:26
And they're not going to build one ship.
44:27
You're never going to see a ship out
44:28
of this deal.
44:31
Well, we'll see.
44:34
You know, he's doing the same with the
44:35
insurance companies.
44:37
He had another stand up with all the
44:40
drug manufacturers, going to make them cheap, going
44:42
to make them cheaper.
44:43
It'll be cheaper for us, but it won't
44:45
be $88.
44:46
But I guess it's going to have to
44:47
even out between other countries.
44:49
But then another thing that wasn't really discussed
44:52
was this.
44:53
I'm going to call a meeting.
44:55
It could be in Florida this coming week
44:56
or it could be back in the White
44:58
House the first week, not the second or
45:01
third week.
45:02
I'm going to call a meeting of the
45:04
big insurance companies that have gotten so rich
45:07
by receiving money and really much far, far
45:12
more money than they're entitled to.
45:14
And I have a feeling maybe if they
45:16
would act like these incredible, brilliant, responsible citizens
45:20
behind me, people that love our country.
45:23
And they love the world.
45:25
I mean, frankly, they love these are international
45:27
companies for the most part.
45:30
I'm going to call a meeting of the
45:31
insurance companies.
45:32
I'm going to see if they get their
45:33
price down, to put it very bluntly.
45:36
And I think that is a very big
45:38
statement.
45:38
And what happened here is the biggest statement
45:40
of all, because nobody thought a thing like
45:42
this was possible.
45:43
So where are all the Luigi fans?
45:46
Yeah, this is great.
45:47
This is what Luigi is going to jail
45:48
for.
45:49
No, no.
45:51
Nick Fuentes is great.
45:52
Candace, she's just asking questions.
45:57
That's the best part.
45:59
Just asking questions.
46:01
Just asking questions.
46:02
No, Zuma Waffen, you are welcome here at
46:05
the No Agenda Show.
46:06
We'll help you understand what's really going on
46:08
in your world.
46:09
The information is out there.
46:11
You're just being lured away by shiny objects,
46:14
trinkets, to go and watch something else.
46:19
And that's something else in the two instances
46:22
you mentioned, Fuentes and Owens.
46:27
They're long talkers.
46:30
Yes.
46:31
Those are hours and hours a day.
46:34
It's unbelievable.
46:36
You can really chew up a lot of
46:37
your time.
46:38
But again, it's the clips.
46:40
It's all about the clips.
46:43
I don't think I've ever watched the full
46:45
Fuentes episode.
46:46
I mean, is he on YouTube only?
46:48
I don't know.
46:49
No, no.
46:49
Rumble.
46:50
Rumble.
46:50
But I see the clips.
46:53
You know, that's funny because I've only watched
46:57
full episodes.
46:57
I've never seen the clips.
46:59
I watched the full episodes to look for
47:00
the um or the uh.
47:03
Yeah, it's not there.
47:04
Not there.
47:05
It's just horrifying how good he is.
47:09
Yeah.
47:10
So that's why I call on the Zuma
47:12
Waffen.
47:13
You are good here.
47:15
We'll take care of you.
47:16
Don't worry.
47:17
This is where you want to be.
47:19
Listen to your uncles.
47:21
You can learn something.
47:23
Now, let's play.
47:24
I have a couple of series here that
47:26
are kind of interesting.
47:29
They're going out of their way.
47:31
It seems the powers that be, and in
47:34
this case NPR, to start trying to reconstruct
47:38
in advance of Trump getting kicked out or
47:42
getting Trump three years from now or whenever.
47:46
To rebuild USAID.
47:49
This is a disaster.
47:51
Weren't they getting money from USAID as well?
47:54
I'm sure there's some backdoor from USAID to
47:57
NPR.
47:57
Oh, absolutely.
47:58
There has to be.
47:59
But the USAID is a money laundering operation,
48:04
a worldwide money laundering operation for everybody, for
48:08
the intelligence agencies, for all kinds of slush
48:11
funds.
48:11
Mainly.
48:12
Mainly.
48:12
And it goes to the NGOs and that's
48:17
where the laundering takes place.
48:21
So they're going to go out of their
48:23
way now, NPR, to try to turn the
48:28
ship around and show what a bad idea
48:31
this was and everything in between.
48:33
And here we go with the USAID.
48:35
Wait, wait, wait.
48:36
Before we start, have we seen any, is
48:39
Africa now dead of AIDS?
48:42
According to this report, yeah.
48:45
Okay.
48:46
I'm sorry.
48:47
I stand corrected.
48:48
It's been a cataclysmic year in global.
48:50
Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey.
48:52
Hey.
48:54
You keep doing this.
48:56
I have a code.
48:57
See NPR-SS?
49:01
Okay.
49:02
Well, all right.
49:04
You have a good point there.
49:05
I didn't recognize the code.
49:07
Suffer and succotash.
49:08
Suffotash.
49:08
I'm Scott Simon.
49:14
It's been a cataclysmic year in global hell.
49:17
In January, the Trump administration.
49:19
Did he say in global hell?
49:22
Yeah, this is the leverage they're going to
49:25
use to promote USAID.
49:27
Wait, global health or global hell?
49:29
It sounded like he said global hell.
49:30
He says it fine.
49:31
Yeah, he screws it up.
49:33
You're right.
49:33
Global hell.
49:34
It's been a cataclysmic year in global hell.
49:37
In January, the Trump administration.
49:39
He said hell.
49:40
He says hell.
49:41
He says hell.
49:42
I heard it.
49:42
It's a cataclysmic year in global hell.
49:44
In January, the Trump administration froze billions of
49:47
dollars in foreign assistance funds.
49:49
Then it dismantled the United States Agency for
49:52
International Development.
49:54
These actions had ripple effects all around the
49:56
world and changed how the U.S. approaches
49:59
foreign aid.
50:01
NPR global health correspondent Fatma Tanis has been
50:03
covering the story for the past year.
50:05
Joins us in her studio.
50:06
Fatma, thanks so much for being with us.
50:08
Thanks for having me, Scott.
50:12
Take us back to the beginning of 2025.
50:15
How did this shakeup to USAID programs begin?
50:18
Well, it was really chaotic.
50:20
He switches here to USAID.
50:22
I love that.
50:24
Oh, I missed it.
50:24
Well done.
50:25
Oh, yes.
50:26
Oh, yeah.
50:26
USAID to USAID.
50:30
Take us back to the beginning of 2025.
50:33
How did this shakeup to USAID programs begin?
50:37
Well, it was really chaotic, Scott.
50:39
Hundreds of agency staff were put on leave.
50:41
The USAID website was taken down in the
50:44
middle of the night on a Saturday.
50:46
In the middle of the night?
50:46
And thousands of programs that provided critical health
50:49
services and poverty solutions and more were terminated.
50:53
And this all happened within a matter of
50:54
a few weeks.
50:55
And what did the administration do?
50:57
Hey, what are poverty solutions?
51:00
I like that.
51:02
Poverty solutions.
51:04
Poverty solution.
51:06
Alcohol.
51:10
Poverty solutions.
51:11
I'd like to be in charge of that
51:13
department.
51:17
That was the end of that clip?
51:18
Yeah, it ended funny, but that was the
51:20
end of the clip.
51:20
It did end funny.
51:21
It was something I did wrong.
51:23
Okay, well, let's go on to clip two.
51:25
And what did the administration do?
51:27
You know, foreign aid has historically had bipartisan
51:29
support.
51:30
Yeah, he brings it.
51:32
What did the administration do?
51:34
It was a funny ending.
51:35
It didn't make any sense.
51:36
And he drops it in.
51:38
He says, what did the administration do?
51:39
She never really says when he asks it
51:41
again.
51:43
That's a very screwy report.
51:45
I'm sorry.
51:46
I could have done a better job of
51:48
segwaying it, play it on.
51:49
And why did the administration do that?
51:51
You know, foreign aid has historically had bipartisan
51:53
support.
51:54
It saves lives and has been generally seen
51:57
as a way for America to wield influence
52:01
and build goodwill.
52:02
But the Trump administration saw it differently, that
52:05
the way America was doing foreign aid was
52:08
ineffective and wasteful.
52:10
USAID in particular was viewed as far left
52:13
and irredeemable.
52:14
It's programs that provided support for LGBTQ people
52:17
or reproductive health and climate solutions were seen
52:21
as part of a woke.
52:23
She just did a woke lineup of epic
52:26
proportion.
52:28
I just need to hear that again.
52:29
Irredeemable.
52:30
It's programs that provided support for LGBTQ people.
52:34
Support for LGBTQ people or reproductive health.
52:37
Reproductive health.
52:39
Read abortions.
52:40
And climate solutions.
52:41
Climate solutions, which I think is part of
52:44
poverty solutions.
52:45
This is wonderful.
52:46
Yes, it's a liquid.
52:46
It's great.
52:47
Seen as part of a woke agenda that
52:49
taxpayers shouldn't be funding.
52:52
Here's Max Primerack with the Conservative Heritage Foundation.
52:55
He previously held several senior roles at USAID.
52:58
A lot of the aid programs that we
53:00
were doing were not always tied to our
53:02
foreign policy objectives.
53:04
And by subsuming the aid agencies, you can
53:07
better align with our national interests and also
53:10
with our values.
53:11
So the administration shut down USAID and moved
53:15
a handful of the parts they wanted to
53:16
keep, like humanitarian relief and a few hundred
53:19
staff, under the State Department.
53:21
Let's talk about the effects.
53:23
Secretary of State Rubio said in May that
53:25
no one died as a result of the
53:28
cuts.
53:29
Is that true?
53:30
Unfortunately, no.
53:32
NPR interviewed a mother in Nigeria.
53:34
Her son had sickle cell anemia.
53:36
And he began running a fever.
53:37
But the clinic that they usually went to,
53:40
funded by USAID, had been closed.
53:42
And the boy died the next day.
53:45
OK.
53:46
So tell me she has a few more
53:49
examples than one boy with sickle cell anemia.
53:53
She's got another example.
54:00
Because of the cruelty.
54:03
This is, by the way, a big theme
54:04
for Trump.
54:05
They like to use the word cruel.
54:07
It's cruel.
54:07
The cruelty of Trump has resulted in a
54:11
boy in Nigeria.
54:12
By the way, there are homeless all over
54:15
San Francisco.
54:16
They're dropping dead in the streets in Los
54:18
Angeles.
54:19
We have shootings in Oakland.
54:20
But there's a boy in Nigeria who died
54:26
because of Trump's cruelty.
54:29
Yes.
54:29
Wow.
54:32
That's the troll room.
54:33
I want to see the death certificate.
54:35
We want proof.
54:37
You're sick.
54:38
The funny thing that the troll room brought
54:40
up, it actually may be bull crap.
54:42
Yeah.
54:44
She has another example coming up.
54:46
OK.
54:47
And the boy died the next day.
54:49
A doctor who treated the child before said
54:52
he would have likely survived if he had
54:54
received care.
54:56
We also know that many people lost access
54:58
to drugs that treated diseases like HIV AIDS.
55:01
And in countries torn by conflict, many malnourished
55:04
children lost access to therapeutic protein-filled foods.
55:08
But we don't know the full scale of
55:11
lives lost.
55:12
And that's because aid groups are no longer
55:14
on the ground able to track what's going
55:16
on.
55:17
You went to Uganda to report on how
55:20
people there were trying to live with the
55:23
cuts.
55:23
What did you see?
55:24
Well, the LGBTQ people are in trouble, of
55:27
course.
55:27
Yeah, I was there in August.
55:28
And, you know, locals and officials were still
55:30
grappling with the ripple effects, not just on
55:33
health care, but local economies, too, because so
55:36
many people lost their jobs with aid groups.
55:39
In one rural area in southwest Uganda, we
55:42
learned that there were only four ambulances for
55:45
the 200,000 people who lived there compared
55:48
to eight ambulances before.
55:50
And that's because the U.S. was funding
55:52
the drivers and the fuel for those ambulances.
55:55
Well, what?
55:59
America first, people.
56:00
Where's my America first people cheering on the
56:03
nonsense that we were funding?
56:06
So so they were it was our fault,
56:09
the cruelty of Trump, that four ambulances in
56:13
Uganda are no longer no longer have their
56:16
ambulances must still be there.
56:18
They didn't dissolve.
56:19
But there's four ambulances there, but they don't
56:22
have a driver because nobody can afford to
56:24
pay the driver and they can't afford the
56:25
fuel without our money, without U.S. taxpayers
56:28
money.
56:28
Does this our country?
56:31
I need to reiterate that the international arms
56:35
dealer, my friend here in Fredericksburg, that he
56:38
has an ongoing pipeline of C-130 aircraft
56:42
that the U.S. government sells to Uganda.
56:46
They're not cheap.
56:49
Certainly, a couple of ambulances worth and they
56:52
and he has to keep supplying them because
56:54
they all learn how to fly on YouTube.
56:57
So how is it our fault?
56:58
It's true.
57:00
It's true.
57:02
I keep crashing into hangars and stuff.
57:04
Oh, I learned how to fly on YouTube.
57:09
Yeah, but no, no, no, no.
57:12
It's the it's Trump's cruelty that stopped that.
57:14
They only have four ambulances.
57:16
It's their own decisions that they're making to
57:20
buy aircraft and take their pilots on YouTube.
57:26
So it's Trump's fault.
57:28
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
57:29
So the U.S. I think is was
57:30
there another fourth clip, fourth clip wraps it.
57:34
It's just one example of how thorough and
57:36
extensive USAID used to be.
57:39
So she did it.
57:43
Let's hear that again.
57:44
It's just one example of how thorough and
57:47
extensive USAID used to be.
57:49
It's so thorough and extensive.
57:51
How many hundreds of billions of dollars did
57:54
we stop flowing from USAID?
57:57
I don't know.
57:58
I can't remember the number.
57:59
It's a big number.
58:01
Big number.
58:02
So what's the future of U.S. foreign
58:04
aid look like?
58:06
It's looking different.
58:07
Instead of funding aid organizations to do health
58:09
work around the world, the administration is now
58:12
working directly with governments and faith based groups.
58:16
Their focus so far has been on Africa.
58:18
The State Department announced several agreements with nine
58:21
African countries.
58:22
In total, the U.S. is going to
58:24
be investing eight billion in the health sectors
58:27
of those countries to help fight diseases.
58:30
And those governments are expected to chip in
58:32
as well.
58:32
As part of the deal, the U.S.
58:34
wants more opportunities for American businesses and access
58:37
to minerals.
58:38
Now, global health experts are cautioning that in
58:40
the year ahead, the challenge is going to
58:42
be doing more with less as millions of
58:45
lives could be on the line.
58:47
And Pierre Sputmatanis, thanks so much.
58:49
Thank you.
58:50
Thanks so much.
58:51
Millions of lives.
58:53
Millions of lives.
58:53
Well, Rubio came out and said, he said,
58:55
we're not going to fund NGOs anymore.
58:57
And that's ridiculous because he knows.
58:59
And certainly the State Department knows.
59:02
It doesn't take a genius to figure this,
59:03
that these guys are just taking us through.
59:05
We're going to help you out.
59:06
We're going to give you global hell.
59:09
Hell.
59:10
He said global hell.
59:11
I'm sticking with it.
59:12
I'm going to give you global hell.
59:14
But we want some minerals, which is a
59:17
much better deal than the Chinese are giving
59:19
you.
59:20
Much better.
59:20
So, we can build more AI chips for
59:23
the data centers.
59:26
Speaking of.
59:28
So, we had that MIT scientist who was
59:32
killed.
59:33
And somehow the guy who did the Brown
59:36
shootings was blamed for it.
59:38
Although, have you seen any photographic or video
59:42
evidence that he was there?
59:44
That he did that?
59:45
It feels just like, I don't know, something
59:48
is off with that.
59:50
Yeah, I'd say.
59:52
So, the MIT scientist was working with, I
59:57
have the name of the company somewhere.
1:00:00
It's a fusion guy.
1:00:01
Fusion guy, yes.
1:00:03
But it was one of the three, there
1:00:04
are three main companies that are poised to
1:00:09
supposedly provide a fusion reactor.
1:00:12
I think you used the right word.
1:00:14
Supposedly.
1:00:15
Yeah.
1:00:16
Yeah.
1:00:17
This is quantum computing.
1:00:20
This is in the same league as quantum
1:00:21
computing the way I see it.
1:00:23
Well, I watched a couple of videos on
1:00:25
these companies.
1:00:26
Yeah, the videos are great.
1:00:27
The videos.
1:00:27
It works terrific in a video.
1:00:30
This technology, it's killer.
1:00:32
Well, we got this announcement on pretty much
1:00:35
the same day.
1:00:37
Tonight, President Trump predicting pricing.
1:00:39
I'm sorry, that's not the one.
1:00:40
Oops.
1:00:42
How did I?
1:00:43
Wait, wait, wait.
1:00:44
It's here.
1:00:44
This is the one.
1:00:45
This is Devin Nunes, who is the CEO
1:00:48
of Trump Media, which is now- Right,
1:00:51
which just did a big merger.
1:00:52
Yes.
1:00:52
Now, I spent a lot of time in
1:00:54
Congress working on nuclear power.
1:00:56
Unfortunately, legislation that I proposed 20 years ago
1:01:01
didn't pass because the Congress decided that they
1:01:04
should invest in windmills and solar panels.
1:01:07
However, there was a company called TAE, the
1:01:09
one that we're merging with, that actually continued
1:01:12
to invest.
1:01:13
So families like Chuck Schwab's family, investors like
1:01:17
Stanley Druckenmiller, Google, Chevron, many others continue to
1:01:23
invest in TAE.
1:01:26
So this is private money, not government money.
1:01:30
But for a quarter century, they've amassed the
1:01:33
best scientists that the world has to offer,
1:01:36
and they've produced enough.
1:01:37
They've built five generations of the reactor.
1:01:40
And now we're stepping in, folding them into
1:01:43
our company so that we can help them
1:01:45
build their first reactor.
1:01:47
So this is a fusion reactor.
1:01:49
It's clean.
1:01:52
It's one that can—the first one will be
1:01:54
up to 50 megawatts.
1:01:55
The future ones will be somewhere between 350
1:01:58
to 500.
1:01:59
Now, what does that mean?
1:02:00
Wow.
1:02:00
That means these are big enough to replace
1:02:02
pretty much or add to the existing power
1:02:06
generation that we have in this country.
1:02:07
It's a good size.
1:02:09
Now, look.
1:02:10
Look.
1:02:11
Now, look.
1:02:14
When this is done, and I don't say
1:02:15
this lightly, this will be the most important
1:02:18
discovery and invention since the first Manhattan Project.
1:02:23
So the professor was working— Wait, wait, wait.
1:02:27
What was the second Manhattan Project?
1:02:29
Well, this will be the second Manhattan Project.
1:02:32
Oh, I see what you're saying.
1:02:33
I don't know.
1:02:34
It's Nunes.
1:02:37
So Lorero was working with Commonwealth Fusion Systems
1:02:43
to build SPARC, and SPARC is supposed to
1:02:46
start operations in 2026.
1:02:50
And I just can't get beyond the coincidence
1:02:54
of this guy getting iced.
1:02:56
Yeah, I can't either.
1:02:57
There's also a system being put—a plant being
1:03:01
built right now in Washington State from Microsoft
1:03:03
using yet another fusion trick, technology supposedly that
1:03:09
supposedly works, supposedly, supposedly, that uses helium-3
1:03:15
and deuterium somehow, and it causes the people
1:03:18
who say, look at the—I did a lot
1:03:21
of reading on this.
1:03:22
So the idea, as I understand it, the
1:03:25
idea is that you can almost pretty much
1:03:27
use saltwater, seawater, and then helium comes out
1:03:32
of it.
1:03:32
You can use the helium to create steam,
1:03:39
and in the video that I watched, the
1:03:44
TAA video, they're saying, oh, no, we can
1:03:47
convert that straight to electricity somehow.
1:03:49
Uh-huh.
1:03:50
No.
1:03:50
Whatever you said was just nonsense.
1:03:52
Well, I'm just telling you it was in
1:03:54
the video.
1:03:55
Yeah, the video is nonsense then if it
1:03:56
talks about turning seawater and using seawater because
1:03:59
you can get some helium out of it.
1:04:01
It's almost—getting helium-3 is a pain in
1:04:04
the ass apparently, and then any of the
1:04:07
deuterium fusion reactors supposedly is, again, you know,
1:04:12
it just—listen, I'm just reading what the critics
1:04:14
say.
1:04:15
The problem with deuterium is that, yeah, it
1:04:18
will fuse with helium-3 and form a
1:04:22
90-million-degree temperature for a small amount
1:04:26
of time, but deuterium also fuses with deuterium,
1:04:30
and when it does that, a bunch of
1:04:31
neutrons are released, and now you have a
1:04:33
radiation problem, and the neutron release in the
1:04:35
reactor will just melt the reactor.
1:04:37
The whole thing's a disaster.
1:04:39
It seems that this technology has not been
1:04:42
proven to work anywhere.
1:04:45
And it's really cool the way they contain
1:04:48
plasma in a tube, and the plasma has
1:04:50
to spin around, and the problem is keeping
1:04:52
the plasma in there.
1:04:53
Oh, yeah, and the guy that got killed
1:04:55
at MIT, what was his specialty?
1:04:58
Plasma.
1:04:59
Plasma.
1:05:00
Mm-hmm.
1:05:00
So there's one other company out there.
1:05:04
I think it's the ZAP.
1:05:07
I think it's ZAP, who would do the
1:05:13
Z-pinch.
1:05:14
I think there's one more scientist who has
1:05:16
to die for the theory to be—I have
1:05:21
a feeling that they may be closer than
1:05:24
we think or than we think is possible.
1:05:28
Yes, the fusion has been talked about for
1:05:31
a long, long time.
1:05:34
I think it's certainly—somehow I feel it's more
1:05:38
likely that this is happening than quantum, which
1:05:42
you might have noticed is everywhere now.
1:05:44
The pivot to quantum is happening, and I
1:05:47
predicted it would happen, which means AI is
1:05:50
just not panning out the way they expected
1:05:55
it to.
1:05:55
Well, by panning out, you mean profitable.
1:06:01
Well, how about productive-wise?
1:06:03
It's not productive.
1:06:04
It's productive for social media.
1:06:07
It's great for newsletters and for art and
1:06:10
funny videos, but it's not panned out to
1:06:12
be productive in the workplace.
1:06:15
No, not at all.
1:06:16
And it's not profitable.
1:06:18
In fact, it's counterproductive when you think about
1:06:21
what you just said.
1:06:22
How about this?
1:06:22
How about this?
1:06:23
Let's just break it down.
1:06:27
Maybe, maybe this is just the next hype
1:06:30
that they're kickstarting.
1:06:32
Because why else—it was like, oh, Trump, you
1:06:35
know, he's a conflict of interest with the
1:06:38
data centers.
1:06:39
Yeah.
1:06:40
It's his kids running it, I guess.
1:06:42
Nunes.
1:06:43
It doesn't matter who's running it.
1:06:45
This will just be the next thing, because
1:06:46
what is the power—what is the problem with
1:06:48
AI right now is power.
1:06:50
So as long as everyone's out—oh, we're almost
1:06:52
there.
1:06:53
2026.
1:06:54
Oh, it could be—little glitch, 2027.
1:06:58
This could be an enormous addition to the
1:07:02
GDP now that we're kind of, you know,
1:07:05
the data center deals are starting to slow
1:07:07
down.
1:07:08
The big guys with the money are like,
1:07:11
we don't want to put any more money
1:07:12
in the data centers.
1:07:14
Hyperscalers, which is another word for builders of
1:07:18
data centers.
1:07:18
This could just be the next hype, you
1:07:22
know, just to keep the train rolling.
1:07:23
We have to keep it rolling.
1:07:25
AI is now 90% of our GDP.
1:07:29
That's not true.
1:07:30
Well, that sure seems like it.
1:07:34
Well, 90% of the mind share, maybe.
1:07:38
That and GLP-1.
1:07:40
I mean, that's all we have.
1:07:41
We have AI and Ozempic.
1:07:43
Welcome to America.
1:07:45
And Apple phones.
1:07:48
That's about it.
1:07:49
But, I mean, I'm hopeful because it would
1:07:52
be fantastic.
1:07:53
Think about it.
1:07:54
Think about the changes that would happen if
1:07:56
Fusion actually came about.
1:07:58
That would be amazing.
1:07:59
How about showing me one example of where
1:08:00
it works at all?
1:08:01
Well, on the video.
1:08:03
You can see it on the video.
1:08:06
Actually, it was like a 45-minute video
1:08:08
from the company itself.
1:08:11
Not once did they show, hey, it's working.
1:08:14
Look at the meter.
1:08:16
Look at the power coming out.
1:08:18
They didn't show that at all in 45
1:08:20
minutes of talking about their product.
1:08:25
That's because it doesn't work.
1:08:27
Could it work?
1:08:28
I mean, it might work someday.
1:08:30
Somebody might come up with a good idea
1:08:31
or something.
1:08:33
Well, what is the problem?
1:08:34
What is the main problem with it?
1:08:36
It costs more energy to get it to
1:08:39
get going than it delivers.
1:08:41
Okay, because you've got to fire up the
1:08:44
plasmatron.
1:08:45
The plasma, you've got to control this.
1:08:47
And that costs money to extract the H3,
1:08:50
in the case of the helium ones.
1:08:52
It costs money to get the deuterium.
1:08:55
That doesn't come in, you know, it's not
1:08:59
bottled by Coca-Cola.
1:09:00
I mean, it's something you have to develop.
1:09:03
How do you make that?
1:09:05
I have no idea, but it's not cheap.
1:09:07
That costs money.
1:09:08
And it costs money for the other stuff.
1:09:09
It costs money to get the plasma going.
1:09:11
It costs money to build the plant.
1:09:12
And then when you turn on the power
1:09:13
to make it, so it creates power, it
1:09:15
costs more money to create than it's worth.
1:09:17
That's the problem.
1:09:18
It's negative.
1:09:19
It's got negative numbers all over the place.
1:09:22
So it's not, it's a loser until somebody
1:09:25
figures something out and they haven't done it.
1:09:28
Oh, well, back to zero point energy, I
1:09:31
guess.
1:09:34
I just can't get beyond it.
1:09:35
I can't get beyond that guy.
1:09:37
That guy getting killed the minute this TAE
1:09:41
merger takes place, folded them in, which I
1:09:45
don't like that term.
1:09:46
I'm not sure what you're talking about.
1:09:48
But that Trump media is for one thing
1:09:50
and one thing only.
1:09:51
It's a money gobbling machine.
1:09:56
It's beyond me whether you, well, yeah.
1:09:59
If you know what you're doing, you got
1:10:01
some good creative bookkeepers and you got a
1:10:04
few other guys that know how to set.
1:10:06
It's a creative.
1:10:07
Five salesmen and two creative bookkeepers and you
1:10:10
got a company that'll make billions.
1:10:12
It's an accretive acquisition.
1:10:14
That's what you have to say at Wall
1:10:15
Street.
1:10:16
It's accretive.
1:10:16
Oh, really?
1:10:17
Yes.
1:10:17
It's accretive to the balance sheet.
1:10:20
The good news is we have the best
1:10:23
producers in the universe.
1:10:25
No doubt we have someone out there working
1:10:28
infusion who can give us the straight answer
1:10:32
and the details on what's really happening.
1:10:34
We probably do have somebody working infusion.
1:10:36
Of course we do.
1:10:37
You're going to say the same thing.
1:10:39
Well.
1:10:41
We wish.
1:10:43
Yeah.
1:10:44
Yeah.
1:10:44
So it's not a good idea if more
1:10:46
goes into it.
1:10:47
It would be a great thing if we
1:10:48
could get it to work.
1:10:50
Yeah.
1:10:51
Yeah.
1:10:51
Hmm.
1:10:52
Okay.
1:10:52
Well, that's disappointing.
1:10:54
Well, it's just, it could be completely wrong.
1:10:56
I may be out of touch.
1:10:57
But they didn't have to kill the guy
1:10:59
then.
1:10:59
If it doesn't work, someone believes it works.
1:11:01
How about that?
1:11:02
There's Devin Nunes, I'm sure, is like, oh
1:11:04
yeah, that's going to work.
1:11:05
Someone believes quantum computing works.
1:11:11
Yeah, no, you're right about that.
1:11:13
Some people believe, and maybe, you know what?
1:11:15
Maybe that guy was the guy I'm talking
1:11:17
about who needs to, he has the little,
1:11:19
that one piece of knowledge that would make
1:11:22
it work.
1:11:24
And so that's the guy you want to
1:11:25
kill to keep it from ever coming to
1:11:27
fruition because you're the, because you're the oil
1:11:30
companies.
1:11:31
Yeah.
1:11:32
The one I love the most is the
1:11:34
quantum computing people.
1:11:36
Quantum's going to break Bitcoin.
1:11:40
Like, okay, which Bitcoin is not encrypted.
1:11:45
It's your wallet that's encrypted.
1:11:46
But if quantum can decrypt Bitcoin wallets, you
1:11:51
got a much bigger problem on your hands
1:11:53
because they can decrypt your bank login, everything.
1:11:59
It's the same encryption.
1:12:01
No, no, no.
1:12:04
Quantum's going to do all that.
1:12:06
Okay.
1:12:07
All right.
1:12:09
All right.
1:12:10
We'll just have to wait for it.
1:12:11
I don't know why that became an important
1:12:14
element to quantum.
1:12:16
Oh, it's the people who are short Bitcoin.
1:12:19
Hello.
1:12:21
Maybe that.
1:12:22
I don't know what it is.
1:12:22
It's easy.
1:12:23
It's easy.
1:12:24
But it's a, it's a something.
1:12:28
Okay.
1:12:29
It'll solve some sort of problem that no
1:12:31
one can solve, I guess.
1:12:33
What, quantum?
1:12:34
I'm not sure what the real appeal of
1:12:36
quantum is.
1:12:37
Oh, I can tell you exactly what it
1:12:39
is.
1:12:39
It's going to give you the right ad
1:12:41
at the right time for the right product.
1:12:45
That's always been the sell.
1:12:48
Or it's going to tell you that the
1:12:49
milk in your fridge is out and it
1:12:51
will order it for you automatically.
1:12:53
Yeah.
1:12:54
Call the repairman.
1:12:56
So, I just want to talk about Europe
1:12:58
for a second with Ukraine, since we do
1:13:00
have Zelensky now at Mar-a-Lago.
1:13:07
We have, let's see, we have a couple
1:13:10
of things here.
1:13:12
Let's just a little catch up from NBC.
1:13:15
In the Ukrainian capital, the sound of drones
1:13:18
once again buzzing across the night sky.
1:13:21
Buzzing.
1:13:21
Buzzing.
1:13:22
As Russian strikes pounded Kiev.
1:13:24
Pounding.
1:13:25
Killing at least one person and injuring more
1:13:28
than 20, according to Ukrainian officials.
1:13:31
Russia launching a massive barrage of more than
1:13:34
500 drones and missiles.
1:13:36
Massive.
1:13:36
Just hours before the Ukrainian leader is set
1:13:39
to meet with President Trump in Florida.
1:13:42
On his way to the US, Zelensky's stopping
1:13:45
in Canada for a meeting with Prime Minister
1:13:47
Karny.
1:13:48
And tomorrow I will have a very important
1:13:51
and very constructive meeting with President Trump.
1:13:56
Peace talks are slowly inching forward.
1:13:59
The Nat Pops are great.
1:14:01
Constructive meeting with President Trump.
1:14:03
Peace talks are slowly inching forward.
1:14:05
Is he shooting it up in the Oval
1:14:07
Office?
1:14:08
No, no, it's in Canada, right there in
1:14:09
Karny's office.
1:14:10
He's shooting it up there.
1:14:11
Oh, they're shooting it up Karny's office?
1:14:13
I hope a very important and very constructive
1:14:18
meeting with President Trump.
1:14:19
Peace talks are slowly inching forward.
1:14:24
The main sticking point remains territory.
1:14:27
Moscow is looking for full control of the
1:14:29
Donbass region in the east.
1:14:31
Vladimir Putin saying tonight that if Ukraine doesn't
1:14:35
want to resolve the conflict peacefully, then Russia
1:14:38
would resolve all its goals by force.
1:14:42
Zelensky has said any compromises on territory should
1:14:46
be decided by the Ukrainian people in a
1:14:48
vote and that his country needs US security
1:14:51
guarantees in any peace deal.
1:14:54
Trump telling Politico on Friday the Ukrainian leader
1:14:58
doesn't have anything until I approve it.
1:15:02
Back in Ukraine, another day spent sifting through
1:15:05
debris.
1:15:05
We are begging the whole world, says this
1:15:08
woman, let there be an end to all
1:15:10
this for the sake of our children.
1:15:13
So I thought it was interesting that first,
1:15:15
you know, Zelensky's coming to Mar-a-Lago
1:15:17
and then all of a sudden, you know,
1:15:19
over the weekend, well, he's going to stop
1:15:20
off in Canada.
1:15:22
And I should mention something, because I followed
1:15:24
at least five or six of these reports
1:15:27
and they all go out of their way
1:15:30
to mention the stop off in Canada.
1:15:33
Oh, and it wasn't just to talk with
1:15:35
Carney.
1:15:36
No, it was to talk to a bunch
1:15:38
of some other stooges from representative of Europe.
1:15:41
And there was a meeting.
1:15:43
This was a pre-meeting meeting.
1:15:44
This was a yes.
1:15:46
OK, what do I need to know here?
1:15:49
I got to deal with Trump again.
1:15:50
Tiny dancer, here's what you do.
1:15:52
We're going to tell you exactly what to
1:15:53
do.
1:15:53
Let's get the the the true analysis from
1:15:57
our guy, Andrew Rassoulis.
1:16:00
He's our guy.
1:16:01
He's our guy.
1:16:03
Andrew Rassoulis.
1:16:05
And we'll talk first about the stop in
1:16:07
Canada.
1:16:08
Our thoughts on that.
1:16:09
At least the initial press press conference with
1:16:13
Carney and Zelensky.
1:16:14
It was quick.
1:16:15
Yeah, difficult times.
1:16:17
I mean, and then sort of fast moving
1:16:19
time.
1:16:20
So the main event will be tomorrow, of
1:16:22
course, in in Florida, Mar-a-Lago when
1:16:25
Zelensky meets Trump to kind of finalize the
1:16:28
sort of Ukrainian slash European proposal that they're
1:16:33
going to give to Trump.
1:16:34
And if Trump likes it, he'll give it
1:16:36
to the Russians and we go there.
1:16:38
The Halifax meeting is a stopover.
1:16:40
It's important.
1:16:41
It's a coordinating meeting between Canada and also
1:16:44
the European Union.
1:16:46
That's also being held with the Coalition of
1:16:49
the Willing, which is being held right now
1:16:51
on video.
1:16:52
So it's important.
1:16:53
But it's a stepstone to the main event
1:16:55
tomorrow afternoon.
1:16:57
And, of course, the question is, whatever the
1:16:59
Coalition of the Willing come up with, will
1:17:01
they will the Russians accept it?
1:17:03
So is this essentially these two meetings just
1:17:05
to get everybody on the same page before
1:17:06
they hear from Trump?
1:17:08
Yeah, it's fine tuning.
1:17:09
It's actually to give Zelensky more backing as
1:17:12
he goes to see Trump at Mar-a
1:17:14
-Lago.
1:17:15
And, you know, Trump's not going to be
1:17:17
an easy sell.
1:17:18
Trump has already said that, you know, he's
1:17:20
going to look at what Zelensky gives him.
1:17:22
But if he doesn't like it, he's not
1:17:24
signing off on it.
1:17:25
So that's the kind of atmosphere that Zelensky
1:17:28
is walking into.
1:17:29
And then even beyond that, are there any
1:17:31
odds that Russia will say yes to this?
1:17:33
No.
1:17:34
I mean, the odds are they will say
1:17:36
no.
1:17:37
They will negotiate maybe, but they will say
1:17:40
no.
1:17:41
There's a lot of things in this thing,
1:17:44
like about the Russians pulling back from the
1:17:47
Donetsk area, equal amounts of Ukrainians.
1:17:50
I doubt the Russians will accept that one.
1:17:53
And there's a lot of the uncertainties about
1:17:56
the Coalition of the Willing in terms of
1:17:58
guarantees.
1:17:59
Will that mean legally Article 5 type?
1:18:02
But will it mean troops on the ground
1:18:05
in Ukraine?
1:18:06
That part, if it's in the package and
1:18:08
we haven't seen the full package, I would
1:18:09
think the Russians would be very opposed to
1:18:11
that part.
1:18:12
So all I'm trying to say is that
1:18:14
there's a lot of things the Russians have
1:18:17
said they will be constructive.
1:18:18
That means they will probably counter-propose something,
1:18:23
as opposed to just shut it down.
1:18:24
I love the whole Article 5-like guarantees.
1:18:28
It's like, well, this is almost like a
1:18:30
Bentley.
1:18:31
It's not quite.
1:18:32
It's like a Bentley.
1:18:33
It's like a Bentley.
1:18:34
It's Article 5-like guarantees, which already, I
1:18:38
think it's Article 6, says, you know, Article
1:18:42
5 says an attack on one is attack
1:18:45
on all.
1:18:46
I think it's Article 6 that says, and
1:18:47
then if you want, you can do something
1:18:48
about it.
1:18:49
It's not a given.
1:18:51
So it'll be less than a given by
1:18:53
calling it Article 5-like.
1:18:56
And meanwhile, Canada, more of your tax money.
1:18:59
And just quickly before we go, one question
1:19:01
about the spending that the Prime Minister announced
1:19:03
today, $2.5 billion.
1:19:05
How will that be allocated?
1:19:07
How does it help Ukraine?
1:19:09
Yeah, it's going to international funds like the
1:19:12
IMF and the World Bank and others.
1:19:16
It's not a direct transfer to Ukrainians.
1:19:19
And I think that's actually wise, given that
1:19:22
Ukraine is going through a lot of corruption
1:19:24
issues right now.
1:19:26
So there's a question of where's the money
1:19:27
going inside Ukraine.
1:19:29
But also I think that the other question
1:19:32
is, you know, what's Canada going to get
1:19:34
back for this?
1:19:34
Canada's poured in quite a lot, many billions,
1:19:38
in terms of Ukraine's economic situation.
1:19:41
So is Canadian industry going to benefit by
1:19:43
this in the longer term?
1:19:44
Because Ukraine is on the precipice of bankruptcy.
1:19:48
The European Union bailed them out with a
1:19:50
two-year loan.
1:19:51
But they were going to go bankrupt in
1:19:53
April.
1:19:53
So these things have to be watched very
1:19:55
carefully, I think.
1:19:57
So the bank loan from the frozen Russian
1:20:01
assets, seen internationally as theft, resulted in the
1:20:06
Belgian Prime Minister, Bart de Wever, who of
1:20:10
course, you know, he said, hey, you can't
1:20:13
really do this.
1:20:14
This is a problem.
1:20:15
You have to give us Article 5-like
1:20:17
guarantees so Russia doesn't come over here and
1:20:20
kill us all for taking the money.
1:20:23
Well, he just stepped it up.
1:20:24
He said, this is such a good deal,
1:20:26
we won.
1:20:27
The immobilized assets will be kept immobilized and
1:20:31
will ultimately be used to repair the damage
1:20:33
Russia has caused to its unprovoked and unjustified
1:20:37
war against Ukraine.
1:20:39
I think nobody in the European family wants
1:20:41
to see that money returned to Moscow.
1:20:44
But we're going to return to the original
1:20:46
philosophy.
1:20:47
It is going to be used to repair
1:20:50
the damage that Russia has caused in Ukraine.
1:20:53
So I think Ukraine has won.
1:20:55
They have their finance, and they still have
1:20:57
the perspective of getting reparation money.
1:21:01
I think Europe has won.
1:21:02
Perspective.
1:21:04
And financial stability has certainly won.
1:21:08
We've all won.
1:21:10
Ukraine won.
1:21:11
Europe won.
1:21:12
It's a win-win.
1:21:13
Now, I'm going to play two clips from
1:21:17
Yanis Varoufakis.
1:21:19
I know you don't like the guy.
1:21:21
I haven't heard about him for a while.
1:21:23
Well, he's been doing his own podcast, soliloquy
1:21:27
style, where he's really reading his own script
1:21:29
off camera, which looks kind of odd.
1:21:32
I always find that creepy.
1:21:33
Oh, yeah.
1:21:35
Get a prompter.
1:21:36
Stop for one second.
1:21:38
So off-camera reads, I don't even know
1:21:42
when they became popular, but they started showing
1:21:45
up in maybe the late 80s, and they
1:21:48
became more and more used, more and more.
1:21:50
Alex Jones uses them a little bit.
1:21:52
Candice Owens does it.
1:21:53
I mean, it's the second shot.
1:21:54
It's the shot where you see someone reading,
1:21:57
but you see them from the side.
1:21:59
Yeah.
1:21:59
And I call it an off-camera read.
1:22:01
Who are they reading to?
1:22:03
They're reading to the other camera, which is
1:22:05
the one that represents the audience.
1:22:08
But so now we're seeing him as a
1:22:09
third party, so an interloper from the side.
1:22:12
I find it disturbing.
1:22:14
I don't like it.
1:22:15
That's art, John.
1:22:16
Either talk to me.
1:22:17
It's art.
1:22:19
That's the problem.
1:22:20
That's what they think it is.
1:22:21
It's art.
1:22:22
If you're talking to me on camera, I
1:22:26
want you talking to me, not over to
1:22:28
the left, over to some guy.
1:22:31
Where's that?
1:22:32
Who's she talking to?
1:22:33
Well, that ship has sailed.
1:22:34
That's sailed with the Dutch windmill tilt and
1:22:37
with the jump cut, which are all pioneered
1:22:39
in the 80s and 90s, primarily by MTV.
1:22:42
And then Ze Frank.
1:22:45
Ze Frank.
1:22:46
Remember Ze Frank?
1:22:46
Zay Frank?
1:22:47
Ze Frank?
1:22:47
And they usually, when you're in a studio,
1:22:50
they always called it exactly what you say,
1:22:53
dutching the camera.
1:22:54
Yes.
1:22:54
Or they say you're shooting over the axis.
1:22:57
All of the things we learn in film
1:22:58
school have been just cast aside.
1:23:00
Anyway, he's not reading off-camera the way
1:23:03
you describe, his camera is next to his
1:23:07
monitor instead of where it should be, right
1:23:09
in front of his monitor.
1:23:10
Okay, I got it.
1:23:10
All right, I'm sorry.
1:23:11
I got carried away with my complaint.
1:23:14
I've been wanting to get it off my
1:23:15
chest.
1:23:15
Your complaint has been registered.
1:23:18
Then we will send it to the Austin
1:23:19
Film School.
1:23:20
Yes, please do that.
1:23:22
So Giannis, he does know a lot about
1:23:25
European finance because he was the finance minister
1:23:28
and later prime minister of Greece when the
1:23:31
International Monetary Fund screwed them.
1:23:33
Over.
1:23:35
Into severe austerity.
1:23:37
Zoomer often listen up.
1:23:39
We've been around.
1:23:40
This happened when you were three, but it
1:23:42
was bad news in Greece.
1:23:43
It was really, really bad.
1:23:45
This is how the international finance system works.
1:23:48
So he gives us a little rundown in
1:23:50
two clips of the retaliation that Russia, the
1:23:54
retaliatory measures, measures as you would say, that
1:23:59
Russia has taken against the EU.
1:24:02
And trust me when I say you haven't
1:24:04
heard this anywhere.
1:24:06
And it's quite severe.
1:24:08
Russia announced that all remaining energy exports to
1:24:11
Europe.
1:24:11
I'm sorry.
1:24:11
Start with this one first.
1:24:13
Within 48 hours, Russia announced the nationalization of
1:24:17
all European corporate assets on Russian territory.
1:24:20
BP's stake in Rosneft.
1:24:23
$14 billion gone nationalized.
1:24:26
Shell's Russian operations.
1:24:28
$3 billion seized.
1:24:30
Total energies projects.
1:24:32
$4 billion confiscated.
1:24:34
Societe Generale's banking operations taken over.
1:24:38
German automotive plants.
1:24:40
Volkswagen, BMW, Mercedes facilities worth billions.
1:24:43
Nationalized pharmaceutical operations.
1:24:46
Food processing facilities.
1:24:47
Retail chains.
1:24:48
Infrastructure projects.
1:24:50
Intellectual property.
1:24:51
Everything European companies owned in Russia was suddenly
1:24:55
Russian state property.
1:24:56
The total value exceeded $120 billion.
1:25:00
More than the EU had seized.
1:25:02
European boardrooms erupted in chaos.
1:25:05
Shareholders demanded answers.
1:25:07
Stock prices plummeted.
1:25:09
Insurance companies faced massive claims.
1:25:11
But this was just the opening move.
1:25:14
Didn't hear about that, did you?
1:25:16
We've won, everybody.
1:25:18
We're winners.
1:25:20
Okay, clip of the day right there.
1:25:27
Why do I not know this?
1:25:31
I don't know.
1:25:33
I know, because the mainstream media, they've stopped
1:25:37
doing their job.
1:25:38
A long time ago.
1:25:40
A long time ago.
1:25:41
Well, at least 18 years ago we started
1:25:43
this show.
1:25:44
It already was 10 years past due.
1:25:46
Now listen to the second thing, and I
1:25:48
checked the exchange rate, and it checks out.
1:25:51
Russia announced that all remaining energy exports to
1:25:54
Europe would now be priced exclusively in rubles
1:25:57
or yuan.
1:25:58
No euros accepted.
1:26:00
This was different from previous energy threats.
1:26:03
Russia wasn't cutting supply.
1:26:05
That would hurt their own revenues.
1:26:07
Instead, they were forcing a currency choice.
1:26:11
European countries that wanted Russian gas or oil
1:26:14
had to acquire rubles or yuan first.
1:26:17
This meant going through Russian or Chinese financial
1:26:20
intermediaries, paying fees, accepting exchange rate risk, losing
1:26:25
transparency on pricing.
1:26:27
But the real impact was psychological and systemic.
1:26:31
By refusing euros, Russia was making a statement,
1:26:35
your currency is no longer acceptable to us.
1:26:38
The euro, which Europeans assumed was a global
1:26:41
reserve currency that anyone would accept, was being
1:26:45
rejected by a major commodity exporter.
1:26:48
This had cascading effects.
1:26:50
Countries that needed Russian energy had to hold
1:26:53
ruble reserves.
1:26:54
This meant selling euros to buy rubles.
1:26:57
Euro selling pressure increased.
1:26:59
The ruble, which Western sanctions were supposed to
1:27:02
destroy, strengthened.
1:27:03
The currency that was supposed to be worthless
1:27:06
became necessary for European energy security.
1:27:09
China benefited enormously.
1:27:11
Countries buying Russian energy and yuan had to
1:27:14
acquire yuan first.
1:27:16
This accelerated yuan internationalization at the expense of
1:27:20
the euro.
1:27:20
The European Central Bank watched helplessly as energy
1:27:24
importers dumped euros for rubles and yuan, weakening
1:27:29
the euro and importing inflation through currency depreciation.
1:27:34
Yeah.
1:27:35
Go look at the ruble USD or the
1:27:38
ruble euro chart.
1:27:40
It happened exactly as he just said it.
1:27:44
Boom.
1:27:45
40% up.
1:27:47
Everyone's now got to buy rubles.
1:27:48
This is weakening the euro.
1:27:51
Well, it's strengthening the ruble, really, in first
1:27:53
case.
1:27:55
But the craziest thing, and I got this
1:27:58
from Sir Gene, our duke here in Texas,
1:28:02
that the whole Ukraine strategy, or really the
1:28:06
Russia strategy, was written up in a single
1:28:10
document by the Rand Corporation.
1:28:15
Titled, Extending Russia Competing from Advantageous Ground.
1:28:20
And I'm not going to read it.
1:28:21
I'll put it in the show notes.
1:28:22
People can look at it.
1:28:23
I confirmed it.
1:28:25
What year?
1:28:26
2019.
1:28:28
Okay.
1:28:29
And it's still on their website.
1:28:32
Just a couple of items from the index,
1:28:38
a table of contents.
1:28:41
Let's see.
1:28:42
Hinder petroleum exports.
1:28:44
Reduce natural gas exports.
1:28:45
Hinder pipeline expansions.
1:28:47
Impose sanctions.
1:28:49
Enhance Russian brain drain.
1:28:51
Provide lethal aid to Ukraine.
1:28:54
Increase support to the Syrian rebels.
1:28:56
Promote regime change in Belarus.
1:28:58
Exploit tensions in the South Caucasus.
1:29:01
Reduce Russian influence in Central Asia.
1:29:04
Challenge Russian presence in Moldova.
1:29:06
The whole thing.
1:29:07
It's almost like they followed it step by
1:29:10
step.
1:29:12
Increase U.S. and NATO land forces in
1:29:15
Europe.
1:29:15
Increase NATO exercises in Europe.
1:29:18
Withdraw from the INF Treaty.
1:29:21
Invest in new capabilities to manipulate Russian risk
1:29:23
perceptions.
1:29:25
You know, and they're still trying it.
1:29:28
Oh, I got an idea.
1:29:30
Guys, Reuters.
1:29:33
This is a Reuters report.
1:29:34
I'm 99% certain it's an AI voice.
1:29:37
Here, read this.
1:29:39
And a Reuters exclusive has shown that Moscow
1:29:41
is likely stationing new nuclear-capable hypersonic ballistic
1:29:46
missiles at a former air base in eastern
1:29:49
Belarus.
1:29:50
That's according to two U.S. researchers who
1:29:53
have been studying satellite imagery.
1:29:55
It's a development that could bolster Russia's ability
1:29:58
to deliver missiles across Europe.
1:30:01
We're going to kill you.
1:30:02
Oh, the Russians are coming.
1:30:07
It's unbelievable.
1:30:10
That is a good one.
1:30:12
And the Europeans are like, yeah, man, hey,
1:30:15
Russia.
1:30:16
That's no good.
1:30:17
We got to be careful.
1:30:18
According to two randos who study satellite imagery.
1:30:22
Give me a break.
1:30:25
It's good.
1:30:26
It's great.
1:30:27
It's fantastic.
1:30:28
I got to love it.
1:30:29
Got to love it.
1:30:32
I think that's it for Europe.
1:30:34
So the European companies.
1:30:38
That is it for Europe.
1:30:39
Yeah.
1:30:41
I mean, I don't know.
1:30:42
I don't know.
1:30:42
How do you come back from this?
1:30:43
Except first, one, you got to give the
1:30:45
money back.
1:30:46
They're going to have to give the money
1:30:47
back.
1:30:48
They're really counting.
1:30:49
I mean, we'll see what comes out of
1:30:51
the Mar-a-Lago talks.
1:30:53
Nothing?
1:30:54
Probably not.
1:30:57
Sadly, probably not.
1:31:02
Oh, I want you to get into whatever
1:31:05
you want to do next.
1:31:07
But something happened.
1:31:08
A report came out from CBS.
1:31:10
I have been predicting this for a long
1:31:13
time.
1:31:14
And finally, here it is.
1:31:16
Ladies, the free ride is over.
1:31:19
And now you're telling me that you're going
1:31:21
to charge me $1,199 or whatever it
1:31:23
is to return items.
1:31:25
Are you out of your mind?
1:31:26
Hassle-free online returns may be a thing
1:31:30
of the past.
1:31:30
Most major retailers are now charging customers to
1:31:34
return items even if they're unopened and in
1:31:37
perfect condition.
1:31:38
Who wants to lose money, especially not in
1:31:41
this time and in this economy?
1:31:43
$850 billion.
1:31:45
That's how much Americans will return to the
1:31:47
stores this year.
1:31:49
Nearly 20% of the stuff we buy.
1:31:51
That doesn't sound right.
1:31:52
$850 million.
1:31:54
I don't know about billion.
1:31:56
$850 billion?
1:31:58
No.
1:31:58
$50 billion.
1:32:00
That's how much Americans will return to the
1:32:03
stores this year.
1:32:04
Nearly 20% of the stuff we buy
1:32:06
online just ends up in the return pile.
1:32:09
Return fee?
1:32:11
Macy's now charges $999 for mail-in returns.
1:32:15
TJ Maxx and Marshalls charge $1,199.
1:32:18
Other stores, including J.Crew, Abercrombie & Fitch,
1:32:22
H&M, and Zara all now charge fees
1:32:25
between $4 and $8.
1:32:26
It can now cost as much as $45
1:32:30
to return certain electronics at Best Buy.
1:32:34
Amazon, too, has tightened its policy, charging some
1:32:38
customers unless they use its box-free, in
1:32:41
-person drop-off option.
1:32:43
Merchants now are under a tremendous amount of
1:32:45
cost pressure.
1:32:46
They're really trying to offset some of the
1:32:48
costs that they face in returns by asking
1:32:50
shoppers to share some of the burden.
1:32:51
David Sobey co-founded his company, Happy Returns,
1:32:55
that uses these AI robots to help make
1:32:58
returns easier.
1:33:00
Is there any way to avoid these fees?
1:33:03
Well, the best way to avoid them is
1:33:04
just to read the retailer's return policy before
1:33:07
you check out in the first place.
1:33:08
I've been seeing this coming down Broadway for
1:33:11
a long time.
1:33:12
Women, in particular, will order 15 items of
1:33:17
clothing and return 10, 11.
1:33:20
They'll try them on.
1:33:21
No, I don't like it.
1:33:22
Try it on.
1:33:22
No, I don't like it.
1:33:24
And I've always said, how can these stores
1:33:26
accept that?
1:33:27
This just becomes shopping at home.
1:33:30
And now they're going to start charging return
1:33:32
fees.
1:33:34
Well, this is basically what you would do
1:33:37
at a retail store, especially a woman.
1:33:40
She would go in and go to a
1:33:42
dress rack and grab, like, seven dresses and
1:33:45
go into this changing room and try all
1:33:47
of them on.
1:33:49
And then, you know, turn around and look
1:33:52
at herself and then go back and not
1:33:55
buy any of them and then go take
1:33:57
another seven in.
1:33:58
And so they figure this is the analog
1:34:02
of doing that exact same thing, but instead
1:34:04
of being at the store where you're putting
1:34:06
it back on the rack, you are having
1:34:09
to go through this rigmarole.
1:34:11
Yep.
1:34:11
And I don't know how they can put
1:34:13
– I don't know how the system can
1:34:14
work with that.
1:34:16
It can't, clearly.
1:34:19
But it's going to change behavior because I
1:34:22
just see it everywhere.
1:34:25
I don't know.
1:34:25
I mean, Tina does it, too.
1:34:27
I told her this morning.
1:34:28
They start charging.
1:34:28
What?
1:34:29
Yeah.
1:34:29
They start charging for returns.
1:34:31
Oh, $9?
1:34:32
Yeah.
1:34:33
Yeah.
1:34:34
And I don't know if that's per item
1:34:36
or per box that you ship.
1:34:38
It's probably per item.
1:34:39
Oof.
1:34:40
Yeah.
1:34:41
So that's going to end that.
1:34:42
It's going to bring people back to the
1:34:44
mall.
1:34:45
Back to brick and mortar.
1:34:47
It's going to change behavior.
1:34:49
You're right.
1:34:50
Because it's too expensive.
1:34:51
Yeah.
1:34:51
Or maybe order them like that but then
1:34:56
return them in person.
1:34:57
I think that's probably where it'll wind up.
1:34:59
Return them in person.
1:35:00
So then you have to have a store
1:35:02
to return them to.
1:35:03
You can't do that with Amazon.
1:35:04
No.
1:35:05
They have their drop places, their drop boxes,
1:35:09
according to that report.
1:35:12
So we'll see.
1:35:13
That's still going to cost money.
1:35:15
They have to recharge you to drop it
1:35:17
off in one of those little cubicles at
1:35:20
the grocery store.
1:35:21
I've seen those.
1:35:22
Oh.
1:35:24
Is that where you pick up your scratch
1:35:25
-offs?
1:35:29
Scratch and sniff?
1:35:30
What are you talking about?
1:35:31
Your scratch-off.
1:35:33
You have lottery tickets, man.
1:35:34
Your scratch-offs.
1:35:35
You know, I have the same chance of
1:35:37
winning whether or not I buy a ticket.
1:35:40
What is this untitled clip you have?
1:35:42
I love seeing those.
1:35:45
It's actually—that's not a mistake.
1:35:46
It's just a—it just got in there.
1:35:48
I should have taken it off.
1:35:49
It doesn't mean anything.
1:35:51
Okay.
1:35:51
I do have an AmFest—kind of an interesting
1:35:55
clip from this, you know, the America First
1:35:58
big meetup.
1:35:59
It was during our show day off.
1:36:01
Not America First.
1:36:02
It's the America Fest.
1:36:05
America Fest.
1:36:06
America First.
1:36:07
America First.
1:36:08
Yeah.
1:36:08
The TV—the big turning point in USA.
1:36:10
There were like 35,000, 40,000 people
1:36:12
were there.
1:36:12
Well, I heard 30,000, but it was
1:36:15
a lot of people.
1:36:16
Everybody showed up, and it was like a
1:36:18
big— Well, everybody was mad.
1:36:21
We had—what's his face?
1:36:24
What's the little weasel man?
1:36:26
Fast talker?
1:36:27
Ben Shapiro.
1:36:28
Shapiro.
1:36:29
Ben Shapiro calling people out.
1:36:31
He saw his way in big controversy.
1:36:33
Oh, yes.
1:36:34
A million dollars from the Jew money, the
1:36:36
shekels, and all he did is rag on
1:36:38
Candace and everybody else and Tucker.
1:36:42
And I think there was a lot more
1:36:44
going on at AmFest, but those were the
1:36:47
highlights.
1:36:48
I think you summarized it, but I thought
1:36:51
that this little report, which added a tidbit
1:36:53
I did not know, and I thought—and I
1:36:54
have to agree.
1:36:55
This is a woman, a British woman, called
1:36:58
the Warwick Report.
1:37:00
She's one of these—she's online.
1:37:01
She's more of a blogger than a podcaster
1:37:04
or a video blogger.
1:37:07
And she's very good at what she does,
1:37:09
and she gets in and out of these
1:37:10
things.
1:37:10
And she went to this one, and she
1:37:12
found something at AmFest that is kind of
1:37:15
disturbing.
1:37:16
Are you ready for my AmFest recap?
1:37:18
This is going to piss a few people
1:37:19
off.
1:37:20
I was not invited, and I was not
1:37:21
paid to go.
1:37:22
At the last minute, I applied as independent
1:37:24
media, pulled a few strings, made a few
1:37:26
calls, and got approved.
1:37:27
AmFest day two, I arrive and immediately feel
1:37:29
the vibes are off.
1:37:30
Not only did it feel as if I'd
1:37:32
walked into a tense, blurry proxy war, but
1:37:34
attendees were looking each other up and down
1:37:36
with suspicion.
1:37:37
We all saw speakers like Ben Shapiro, Tucker
1:37:39
Carlson, and Megyn Kelly go after each other.
1:37:41
Quite frankly, that was rather embarrassing, and the
1:37:44
left are laughing at conservatives.
1:37:46
The House is divided against itself and cannot
1:37:48
stand.
1:37:48
And what's the division?
1:37:49
One simple but loaded question.
1:37:51
Are you pro-America or pro-Israel?
1:37:54
You'd think the answer was obvious.
1:37:55
We were at AmericaFest, but the nuances were
1:37:58
palpable.
1:37:58
Several activities and events seemed in bad taste.
1:38:01
For example, the tent replica.
1:38:04
Yes, there was a replica of the tent
1:38:06
Charlie was publicly executed in for people to
1:38:08
take selfies in.
1:38:10
Now that doesn't sit right with me.
1:38:11
The public's online takeaway of the event is
1:38:13
rather telling, and they have every right to
1:38:15
question what's going on.
1:38:16
As someone who was physically there, I can
1:38:18
attest that there was something seriously off.
1:38:20
There needs to be a ceasefire of the
1:38:22
friendly fire in the conservative movement.
1:38:24
Traitors must be removed from power, and we
1:38:27
should focus on the enemy that is trying
1:38:28
to destroy the UK, America, and the West
1:38:31
in general.
1:38:32
However, I must say that I did meet
1:38:33
an interesting group of people there, and the
1:38:35
networking was fantastic.
1:38:37
Hmm.
1:38:38
So there was a tent that was a
1:38:42
replica of where Charlie was shot, so you
1:38:45
can go have a picture taken?
1:38:47
What?
1:38:48
Well, that may just be their standard TPUSA
1:38:51
tent.
1:38:52
That's maybe just how she's categorizing it.
1:38:54
I don't know.
1:38:56
Look, let's just face one thing.
1:39:02
TPUSA, the organization, its main mission was to
1:39:08
register voters and to activate them when necessary.
1:39:15
Because you can scream and yell and say
1:39:18
Trump or Biden, whatever you want to say,
1:39:21
but if someone isn't registered in time, they
1:39:23
can't vote.
1:39:24
TPUSA is a voter registration organization.
1:39:28
And then, of course, an activation, as Mo
1:39:31
would say, an activation organization to get you
1:39:34
going at the right moment.
1:39:35
So you go vote because you're already registered.
1:39:37
You don't have to go through a two
1:39:38
-step process.
1:39:40
So everyone who was there is there to
1:39:45
get people involved in all these tents and
1:39:48
everything.
1:39:48
It's always to register.
1:39:50
You need to register to vote.
1:39:51
Yeah, it's important.
1:39:52
I'll register to vote.
1:39:53
And once you're registered, then we're going to
1:39:55
activate you.
1:39:55
They're kind of doing things out of sequence
1:39:57
now because they're pre-activating.
1:39:59
And I think it's true.
1:40:00
J.D. Vance, that's what they're doing now.
1:40:04
And that may or may not be with
1:40:05
approval of the president, but it seems like
1:40:08
that's all that it's about.
1:40:10
And all the other stuff is just, it's
1:40:13
noise.
1:40:14
It's just noise.
1:40:15
Oh, and Alex Jones is involved.
1:40:17
Alex Jones, he's, Candace, you were wrong.
1:40:21
Got to call that out.
1:40:22
I read all the documents, been doing this
1:40:24
for 20 years.
1:40:26
Candace, you're wrong.
1:40:27
I love you, but no, I got to
1:40:29
call it out when you're wrong.
1:40:30
I love you.
1:40:31
I love Candace.
1:40:33
I love Candace.
1:40:33
But when she's wrong, she's wrong.
1:40:35
Got to call it out in my car
1:40:37
while I'm driving.
1:40:39
It's insane.
1:40:41
And at this point, it's just idolatry, just
1:40:44
being in the mix.
1:40:47
Dave Rubin jumps in.
1:40:52
I know, the whole podcasting industrial complex, which
1:40:59
I blame on you, by the way.
1:41:00
It's totally my fault.
1:41:03
It's out of control.
1:41:07
It's Candyland, everybody.
1:41:08
We're in Candyland.
1:41:10
That's where we're at.
1:41:11
So you were talking about, the clip before
1:41:14
was about liars.
1:41:15
I have to play this series, and it'll
1:41:19
be my last real series for today.
1:41:22
Oh, you got a series, huh?
1:41:23
This is a series.
1:41:24
Well, these have all been series.
1:41:25
I do a lot of series.
1:41:27
I don't know why.
1:41:27
Because that's what we do.
1:41:29
We do series so that we can tell
1:41:31
the kids.
1:41:32
So we can bitch and moan.
1:41:33
We can bitch and moan in our own
1:41:34
way.
1:41:35
No, we want the kids.
1:41:36
We want the kids to learn something from
1:41:38
us.
1:41:38
Ultimately, that's what we are.
1:41:39
We are teachers.
1:41:43
Don't laugh.
1:41:45
We're teachers.
1:41:46
We are teachers.
1:41:47
We're educators.
1:41:49
So this is Brooks.
1:41:54
Okay, I take it back.
1:41:56
We're just bitching and moaning.
1:41:57
We're not teachers at all.
1:41:59
This is Brooks on the PBS NewsHour, which
1:42:03
nobody who listens to this podcast watches, ever.
1:42:07
So Brooks goes off.
1:42:09
Brooks, I've now determined, is actually, he's supposed
1:42:11
to be a, you know, this is my
1:42:13
main complaint for the, over the years, I'll
1:42:16
do it again.
1:42:17
PBS does not have balanced coverage of anything.
1:42:20
So they put two people on to argue
1:42:22
with each other, but they are both in
1:42:24
100% agreement.
1:42:27
I'm a lefty.
1:42:28
I'm more of a lefty.
1:42:29
That's the argument is how left can you
1:42:31
be?
1:42:31
Hey, these clips are loud.
1:42:33
They're really modulated.
1:42:35
Did you clip these?
1:42:36
Yeah, I did.
1:42:37
I did give them a, yeah.
1:42:40
I'm looking at the waveforms.
1:42:42
These are maxed out.
1:42:43
I'm looking at the waveform.
1:42:45
I try to do this with my clips.
1:42:47
Why?
1:42:48
Why?
1:42:49
All I'm doing is potting them down.
1:42:52
You'll be potting them.
1:42:53
You'll be having some fun with these.
1:42:55
So they don't have Capehart on.
1:42:58
So the two of them can't agree with
1:42:59
each other.
1:43:00
They brought some woman on who's, it's not
1:43:02
even worth, I clipped none of her.
1:43:04
I just wanted to clip Brooks to make
1:43:06
a point about Brooks being not only a
1:43:10
left winger, but he's a New York Times
1:43:12
columnist who is going to blatantly lie.
1:43:17
President Trump's return to the White House has
1:43:19
seen several significant changes from his first term,
1:43:23
turning this into a consequential year for the
1:43:25
presidency and for the country.
1:43:27
So to reflect on it all, we turn
1:43:29
now to the analysis of Brooks and Atkins'
1:43:32
store.
1:43:32
That's David Brooks of the New York Times
1:43:35
and Kimberly Atkins' store of the Boston Globe.
1:43:38
Jonathan Capehart is away.
1:43:40
Welcome to you both.
1:43:41
Thank you for being here.
1:43:43
David, one of the biggest questions at the
1:43:45
starting of this year is what Trump 2
1:43:47
.0 was going to look like compared to
1:43:49
the first version.
1:43:50
And we have now seen a year of
1:43:52
it, an incredibly aggressive flexing of executive authority.
1:43:57
When you look back on this year, what
1:44:00
really stands out to you?
1:44:01
Yeah, I tell two stories.
1:44:03
The first is that since 1945, the American
1:44:05
establishment, if you want to put it that
1:44:07
way, has built a series of institutions.
1:44:09
Things like the Western Alliance, NATO, the Department
1:44:13
of Justice, USAID.
1:44:15
And all of those things have been hollowed
1:44:17
out over the last year.
1:44:19
The Department of Justice?
1:44:21
The Department of Justice.
1:44:24
That's new?
1:44:24
He put that in there.
1:44:25
He said specifically.
1:44:27
That's new?
1:44:27
The Department of Justice.
1:44:29
Let me just read a little segment here.
1:44:32
Oh, you've done.
1:44:33
You've done.
1:44:33
You've done.
1:44:33
You've got the documents.
1:44:35
Yeah.
1:44:35
On February 19th, 1868, Lawrence introduced a bill
1:44:43
in Congress to create the Department of Justice.
1:44:47
In 1868, President Ulysses S.
1:44:51
Grant signed the bill into law on June
1:44:53
22nd, 1870.
1:44:56
What does that have to do in 1945,
1:44:59
1946?
1:45:00
Well, it's hollowed out, man.
1:45:02
It's hollowed out.
1:45:03
It's like an empty eggshell.
1:45:04
But you did notice he got the little
1:45:06
thing in there about USAID.
1:45:08
Yes.
1:45:08
Of course, because PBS, I think you nailed
1:45:12
it when you said that they were getting
1:45:13
money from USAID.
1:45:15
Sure.
1:45:16
Under the table.
1:45:17
Whatever.
1:45:18
Probably not even under the table.
1:45:19
Probably through an NGO.
1:45:21
So we start off with a blatant lie
1:45:24
about the Department of Justice, but it gets
1:45:26
worse.
1:45:27
It doesn't get worse before another clip or
1:45:29
two.
1:45:30
It gets worse.
1:45:30
John C.
1:45:31
DuBois, he's got all the documents.
1:45:33
And so we've seen a great decline in
1:45:35
state capacity.
1:45:36
He knows their globalist agenda.
1:45:38
You have to worry about if we're a
1:45:39
nation in decline, because China is investing in
1:45:42
science.
1:45:42
They're investing in technologies.
1:45:44
They're kicking our butts.
1:45:45
And so the decline, this has been a
1:45:48
tragedy, an error of historic proportions.
1:45:51
They're kicking our butts.
1:45:55
Is there a lie in there somewhere?
1:45:57
No, not yet.
1:45:59
Well, it's the fact that the Chinese are
1:46:01
kicking our butts in AI.
1:46:03
Okay.
1:46:04
So then we have this next clip, which
1:46:05
is actually a WTF clip.
1:46:07
This proves to me that this guy represents
1:46:11
conservatives about as much as Hillary Clinton.
1:46:16
Earlier this spring, David, you remember you called
1:46:19
for or arguing that all of these little
1:46:22
protests, pushbacks that are happening against the Trump
1:46:24
administration were insufficient for what you're diagnosing.
1:46:29
And you called for a civic, a collective
1:46:32
civic action.
1:46:34
I don't think I'm breaking any news to
1:46:36
you that I don't think that that has
1:46:36
happened.
1:46:37
Yeah, no.
1:46:38
Yeah, I mean, I was reading all these
1:46:40
lefty revolutionaries and I'm like, yeah, yeah, let's
1:46:42
go get them.
1:46:44
I think it has not happened.
1:46:47
What in the world?
1:46:49
So he's reading alternate and God knows what
1:46:53
other left wing publications routinely.
1:46:55
And he's getting all worked up saying, yeah,
1:46:58
yeah, let's go.
1:47:00
David Brooks reading all those alternate.
1:47:03
Okay, we get it.
1:47:04
You can you're getting your I would say
1:47:06
you're five percent.
1:47:07
You're really close.
1:47:09
The reason why is because I've had the
1:47:11
flu for the past two days.
1:47:12
And that's why I'm overdoing it.
1:47:14
And what I say really close.
1:47:16
I'm talking about his being able to do
1:47:18
Alex Jones in a couple of moments back.
1:47:21
Yes, I had it moments ago.
1:47:23
He nailed at least five or six words
1:47:26
that sounded exactly right.
1:47:29
So now you're I know if you're trying
1:47:31
to get my attention.
1:47:32
Yeah, but you yes, you've got it.
1:47:34
Okay, thank you.
1:47:35
But can you sustain it without your cold?
1:47:37
No, I can't.
1:47:38
It's not a cold.
1:47:39
It's the flu, man.
1:47:40
It's the flu.
1:47:41
I'm jacked up on all kinds of meds
1:47:43
right now.
1:47:45
You didn't even know that.
1:47:47
No, you don't because you don't have that.
1:47:49
You're good at you cover up sickness somehow
1:47:53
over a microphone, especially mental.
1:47:56
I've been talking like this.
1:47:57
Well, the way I see it, I can't
1:48:00
breathe through my nose.
1:48:01
I'm just going to have to blow a
1:48:03
couple of times.
1:48:04
If you don't mind.
1:48:05
No, I refilter.
1:48:05
I refilter.
1:48:06
When I sat down, I got to refilter.
1:48:09
So I'm going to keep this filter, though.
1:48:12
All right.
1:48:14
Let's go to the last clip.
1:48:16
Do you want to get it out of
1:48:17
your system?
1:48:18
Let me try again.
1:48:20
Josh Dvorak.
1:48:21
Now I can't do it.
1:48:22
Okay, well, you have to work on it
1:48:25
more.
1:48:25
I'm glad I didn't.
1:48:26
I'm glad I didn't try my Zelinsky.
1:48:28
So this is the part.
1:48:31
This is the end of it.
1:48:32
And he just drops a bunch of bombs
1:48:34
in here at the end.
1:48:36
Lies.
1:48:37
The second thing that's happened is there has
1:48:39
been such a decay of moral norms that
1:48:41
it's hard for any institution to say, no,
1:48:43
we are going to stand up for this.
1:48:44
You are not going to talk about Rob
1:48:46
Reiner the way you did.
1:48:48
You're not going to use the racial language
1:48:49
that is on the present now.
1:48:52
And it's hard to articulate when the corrosion
1:48:56
is not only in our laws, but in
1:48:58
our minds, in our language.
1:49:00
That's a hard thing to challenge.
1:49:03
But I'm hopeful in the long term it'll
1:49:04
happen.
1:49:05
In the 1890s, we had a civic renaissance.
1:49:08
We had the creation of the Boys and
1:49:09
Girls Clubs.
1:49:10
We had the creation of the NAACP, the
1:49:11
unions, the Sierra Club.
1:49:13
All these civic organizations were created by a
1:49:16
group of people who said, we can't go
1:49:18
on this way.
1:49:19
And once you had the civic institutions, then
1:49:21
in around 1900, you had the progressive movement.
1:49:24
Wait a minute.
1:49:25
Wasn't the Sierra Club, weren't those the population
1:49:27
bomb people like kill everybody?
1:49:29
No, they were just conservationists, which is not
1:49:33
a new operation.
1:49:36
Now, he said in the 1890s, we had
1:49:39
the NAACP, the Sierra Club, and the Boys
1:49:42
and Girls Club.
1:49:44
Let's go over the facts.
1:49:47
Here we go.
1:49:48
He's got the documents.
1:49:49
Boys Club.
1:49:51
There was no Boys and Girls Club.
1:49:53
Let's make this clear.
1:49:54
There was no Boys and Girls Clubs in
1:49:57
the United States.
1:49:58
Was there a Girls Club?
1:50:00
There may have been, but the girls usually
1:50:02
joined the Girl Scouts.
1:50:04
The Boys and Girls Club came about in
1:50:07
1990, not 1890.
1:50:13
In fact, the Boys Club was first founded
1:50:16
by women, actually, curiously, in 1860, which is
1:50:20
not 1890.
1:50:21
It was then nationally organized in 1906, not
1:50:26
1890.
1:50:27
And then it was reformed in 1930, in
1:50:30
the 30s and the 40s, not 1890.
1:50:34
Oh, well, let's go to the National Association
1:50:35
for the Advancement of Colored People, which was
1:50:38
formed, according to him, in the 1890s.
1:50:41
The NAACP was formed in 1909 by people
1:50:48
like W.E.B. Du Bois.
1:50:50
This was not 1890.
1:50:52
The Sierra Club was indeed founded in 1890,
1:50:56
but that's a conservationist group.
1:50:59
It's not a political group.
1:51:01
And then we take it to the end,
1:51:02
which he says labor unions, which were actually
1:51:05
founded, the first, the founding of the National
1:51:08
Labor Union was in 1866, not 1890.
1:51:13
And there's plenty of examples of unions that
1:51:15
were formed.
1:51:15
The Knights of Labor was in 1869.
1:51:17
And then the Great Railroad Strike, which was
1:51:20
a union-inspired strike, 1877.
1:51:23
This guy is a liar.
1:51:25
He works for the New York Times, and
1:51:27
he spews bullshit on PBS, which people lap
1:51:30
up like lapdogs.
1:51:32
It's pathetic.
1:51:34
So does this end the clips on the
1:51:36
No Agenda show of the PBS NewsHour, since
1:51:38
it's all lies?
1:51:40
Can it?
1:51:40
Can it possibly mean the end?
1:51:42
Could this be a New Year's resolution?
1:51:48
Let's hope so.
1:51:49
All right.
1:51:50
Let's do a little bit of Trump derangement
1:51:53
syndrome before the break.
1:51:55
This was a fine example, which is going
1:51:57
to cost somebody a lot of money.
1:51:59
To the index, and what was meant to
1:52:01
be a celebration is now a controversy.
1:52:03
The Kennedy Center canceled its annual Christmas Eve
1:52:06
jazz concert.
1:52:07
The show's host, musician Chuck Redd, says he
1:52:09
called off the performance in the wake of
1:52:11
President Trump adding his own name to the
1:52:13
arts institution.
1:52:14
Many legal scholars say Trump's move violates the
1:52:17
law.
1:52:17
You know, Chuck Redd has been doing this
1:52:21
Christmas concert since 1890, and now all of
1:52:25
a sudden he decides to cancel?
1:52:28
1890.
1:52:29
That's, you know, Grinnell is the president, which
1:52:32
is perfect for the job.
1:52:34
Remember Grinnell?
1:52:35
He was ambassador.
1:52:39
He's the gay guy.
1:52:42
He was...
1:52:42
Oh, yeah, I do remember him.
1:52:44
He's the gay ambassador.
1:52:45
Yeah, he is perfect for the job.
1:52:46
That's true.
1:52:47
Yes, and I think he then was, for
1:52:50
a moment there, he was national security advisor,
1:52:53
I think.
1:52:55
I had to look him up.
1:52:56
I like him.
1:52:56
He's a good looking man.
1:52:59
Good guy.
1:53:01
Handsome man.
1:53:01
Very handsome man.
1:53:03
And so this Chuck Redd decides to cancel
1:53:06
a day before the concert.
1:53:09
That's going to cost you money.
1:53:11
That's going to cost...
1:53:12
Someone has to pay for that, because ticket
1:53:14
sales, everything's already done.
1:53:15
That's just a...
1:53:16
That's a career killing move as far as
1:53:19
I'm concerned.
1:53:20
Yeah, for political purposes.
1:53:22
Yeah, I was like, what do you care,
1:53:24
man?
1:53:24
What do you care?
1:53:26
Trump put his name above JFK.
1:53:30
This is a Bloomberg podcast called The Balance
1:53:35
of Power.
1:53:37
You can already imagine what this is like.
1:53:39
I think it's audio only.
1:53:41
Thank the Lord.
1:53:42
No, it's on TV.
1:53:43
It's on TV too?
1:53:44
I'm pretty sure it is, yeah.
1:53:46
Well, here they are complaining about Trump.
1:53:49
Incredible reporting today in the New York Times.
1:53:51
If you've not seen this story, they spend
1:53:52
time in the Oval like no one has,
1:53:54
cataloging each inch.
1:53:55
And all of the changes that have taken
1:53:57
place over the last year, there have been
1:53:59
a lot of them, by the way.
1:54:00
The flags are abundant.
1:54:02
We've got the gold framed copy of the
1:54:04
Declaration of Independence.
1:54:05
Gold statuette of an eagle flying over the
1:54:07
Constitution arrived last month near the flags behind
1:54:10
the desk.
1:54:10
A wooden box with a red button.
1:54:12
You know, that's the Diet Coke button.
1:54:13
That's different.
1:54:14
It's not gold.
1:54:15
But the question of whether the gold is
1:54:17
real, also acknowledged.
1:54:19
When you look at all the frames that
1:54:20
are in the mirrors and the photos, some
1:54:22
thought that this was just cheap plastic.
1:54:24
No, the White House says that while the
1:54:26
underlying materials are made of plaster or metal,
1:54:28
they are covered in real gold leaf.
1:54:31
A craftsman from Florida travels to the White
1:54:33
House on the weekends to gild, gild, gild
1:54:36
parts of the Oval Office by hand.
1:54:41
What is the problem?
1:54:43
I mean, I'm not that much of a
1:54:45
guru.
1:54:45
I do that myself at the house.
1:54:46
Yeah, with gold spray paint.
1:54:48
No, you can get gold leaf.
1:54:50
It's actually relative.
1:54:52
It's not as cheap as it used to
1:54:54
be.
1:54:54
Are you gilding stuff?
1:54:55
I've gilded stuff.
1:54:57
I'm not doing it as we speak.
1:54:59
Could you gild my microphone?
1:55:02
You want to spray it.
1:55:04
You want to spray it.
1:55:05
You don't want to gild it.
1:55:05
How do you gild?
1:55:06
Is gild done by painting?
1:55:08
Or how do you gild?
1:55:08
No, no.
1:55:11
There's a sticky undersurface and you lay a
1:55:13
piece of gold leaf over it and press
1:55:16
it down and over the bumps and little
1:55:19
things and get it so it's all pushed
1:55:20
in there.
1:55:21
So it's one gold leaf at a time.
1:55:24
It's only one atom thick, which is crazy.
1:55:27
One atom?
1:55:28
Oh, man.
1:55:29
Yeah, gold can be one atom thick and
1:55:31
still be gold.
1:55:32
Is that the stuff the high-end chefs
1:55:34
put on the food?
1:55:36
Yeah, exactly.
1:55:37
That's the stuff you can eat?
1:55:38
Exactly the same stuff.
1:55:40
You can eat it?
1:55:41
Yes, you can because there's really not that
1:55:44
much to it.
1:55:45
I've eaten it.
1:55:47
It's just a line of atoms.
1:55:48
You're probably not getting enough gold to do
1:55:50
anything.
1:55:50
I mean, there's not much gold.
1:55:52
I've eaten gold in my day.
1:55:55
Most people have.
1:55:56
If you go to a high-end restaurant
1:55:57
over the years, at some point, someone will
1:56:00
bring out a gateau that has a piece
1:56:04
of gold leaf on the top.
1:56:05
And foam.
1:56:07
Foam.
1:56:08
Foam is so passe.
1:56:10
It's ridiculous.
1:56:12
Oh, foam.
1:56:13
It's still a thing.
1:56:13
Yeah, well, maybe where you are.
1:56:15
Let me clue you in about foam.
1:56:18
The foam.
1:56:20
I've always loved the foam.
1:56:22
And so these guys didn't stop.
1:56:25
Do you know about the peephole?
1:56:28
Oh, brother.
1:56:30
This is fascinating.
1:56:31
You know about the peephole in the outer
1:56:33
oval?
1:56:33
Most people don't know about this.
1:56:35
There was a peephole that until quite recently
1:56:38
would allow staff to just check on the
1:56:40
meeting to see what's going on in there.
1:56:41
Make sure the president's all right.
1:56:43
You're going to walk in.
1:56:44
You know what you're walking in on.
1:56:45
Trump has blocked the peephole with new mirrors.
1:56:50
If the door is now closed, they cannot
1:56:53
see what is happening in the room.
1:56:56
Oh, God.
1:56:59
I'll have what she's having.
1:57:01
He's blocked the peephole.
1:57:04
I can't believe that's also on television.
1:57:07
That's crazy.
1:57:09
Well, on television, they have it.
1:57:11
It's a very small box, and it's surrounded
1:57:14
by nothing but stock market information flying all
1:57:17
over the place.
1:57:18
Right, right, right.
1:57:18
It's not really a television show.
1:57:20
Yeah, I know.
1:57:22
Exactly.
1:57:23
Well, John, with that fine news of the
1:57:26
peephole being blocked, I think it is time
1:57:28
to thank you for your courage.
1:57:30
The man who put the sea in Candyland.
1:57:32
Say hello to my friend on the other
1:57:33
end, the one, the only, Mr. John C.
1:57:36
DeMora.
1:57:41
Yeah.
1:57:42
Good morning.
1:57:44
Chips and sea boots on the ground, feeding
1:57:45
the airships in the water, all the dames
1:57:46
and knights out there.
1:57:47
And the morning to the trolls in the
1:57:49
troll room.
1:57:51
Hold on.
1:57:52
Let me count you.
1:57:52
There we go.
1:57:53
There we go.
1:57:55
Okay.
1:57:56
We're at 1838.
1:57:58
That's not bad for a holiday weekend.
1:58:00
It's good to have everybody here.
1:58:03
Now, 1,838 trolls are listening live to
1:58:05
this podcast, and we are a podcast.
1:58:08
We're just a podcast.
1:58:09
You can do other things while listening to
1:58:11
this podcast.
1:58:12
We are an OG podcast.
1:58:15
And genuine.
1:58:16
A pod, as some would say.
1:58:18
The pod.
1:58:19
Well, you shouldn't be saying it.
1:58:22
You've rejected that moniker.
1:58:23
Yes.
1:58:24
Yes, I have.
1:58:25
So you can be driving while you're listening
1:58:27
to this.
1:58:27
You could be walking the dog.
1:58:28
You could be doing chores.
1:58:29
You're washing the dishes.
1:58:30
Walking around.
1:58:31
You can be gardening.
1:58:33
Gardening.
1:58:33
All kinds of wonderful activities.
1:58:35
In fact, we encourage that you're outside when
1:58:38
you listen to this podcast.
1:58:40
Just walking around, laughing to yourself.
1:58:44
So people think you're nuts.
1:58:45
It's perfect.
1:58:46
And you recognize each other on the street.
1:58:47
Oh, you're listening to the best podcast?
1:58:49
Yeah, I'm listening.
1:58:50
ITM.
1:58:51
ITM, everybody.
1:58:53
When did that happen the other day?
1:58:57
You got an ITM?
1:58:58
I got an ITM out of the blue.
1:59:01
Oh, from a pastor.
1:59:03
We were talking to a pastor.
1:59:04
One of the Bryans?
1:59:05
No, not one of the five Bryans.
1:59:07
No, this is for Godcaster.
1:59:08
And the pastor says, ITM.
1:59:10
I'm like, holy moly.
1:59:13
ITM.
1:59:13
There we go.
1:59:14
A man of the cloth.
1:59:15
Of many different cloths.
1:59:17
And, of course, if you have a modern
1:59:19
podcast app.
1:59:20
And, by the way, PodVerse is working on
1:59:22
a new version, which is going to be
1:59:23
amazing.
1:59:25
PodVerse 2.0. I mean, Mitch is...
1:59:29
Well, the new version of PodVerse.
1:59:31
I mean, what?
1:59:32
What's it going to do?
1:59:33
I mean, it's hard to explain, but it's
1:59:35
really going to help you find new podcasts,
1:59:38
find music.
1:59:39
We have value for value music.
1:59:42
Did you hear about the music hack?
1:59:44
It's interesting you bring that up.
1:59:45
Yes.
1:59:46
And it's not a hack.
1:59:47
It's just a great idea.
1:59:48
It's a download.
1:59:50
I think it's...
1:59:52
What is it?
1:59:53
Anna...
1:59:53
Anna's blog.
1:59:54
No, not...
1:59:55
Yeah, it is.
1:59:56
Anna's blog.
1:59:57
They backed up Spotify and they're making...
2:00:00
All of it.
2:00:01
Well, I think 90% pretty much...
2:00:03
I thought it was all of it.
2:00:05
We archived around 86 million files representing 99
2:00:08
.6% of listens.
2:00:12
300 terabyte in total size.
2:00:14
And, of course, they're putting this all on
2:00:16
torrents.
2:00:16
And so you can already get the metadata.
2:00:19
I've never even heard of Anna's blog.
2:00:21
But if you want to get a book...
2:00:22
They're hackers.
2:00:23
They do a lot.
2:00:23
Anna's blog has been in business.
2:00:26
Nobody knows anything about them.
2:00:28
But they're the ones who have the giant
2:00:30
libraries that they've stolen.
2:00:33
I'm going to use the word stolen.
2:00:35
They have downloaded all kinds of stuff.
2:00:37
They're very important to the underground community for
2:00:40
information archiving.
2:00:42
Well, you like downloading movies.
2:00:46
No, I don't.
2:00:47
I pay for everything I view.
2:00:51
I'm sorry.
2:00:52
Yes, you're right.
2:00:53
You pay for everything you do.
2:00:54
But there's lots of people who like downloading
2:00:57
movies.
2:00:57
But they have books.
2:01:01
I'll bet you your books are on here.
2:01:05
You wouldn't be surprised.
2:01:07
Yeah.
2:01:08
So it's kind of a super hack because
2:01:11
I can see people putting together...
2:01:16
They even have some kind of their own
2:01:18
player, if I understood correctly.
2:01:22
So in essence, you can load up the
2:01:24
metadata in their player.
2:01:26
And then you can access the files from
2:01:29
the torrents in your player.
2:01:31
And it'll just kind of work like Spotify.
2:01:34
Yeah.
2:01:35
Yeah.
2:01:36
I mean...
2:01:37
I can't see how that helps the stock.
2:01:41
Well, it depends.
2:01:43
If it gets kind of the scale of
2:01:45
Napster, it'll be very interesting to see what
2:01:47
happens.
2:01:48
But basically, the musicians aren't really losing any
2:01:51
money.
2:01:51
I mean, no one's making money.
2:01:53
They're not making any money anyway.
2:01:54
Yeah.
2:01:54
So in a way, it's kind of fun.
2:01:58
I mean, I don't condone stealing.
2:02:02
But, you know, I just like the idea
2:02:06
that they just sat there and had all
2:02:08
of these machines just screaming, grinding away and
2:02:12
taking it.
2:02:13
Saving everything.
2:02:14
I like that.
2:02:15
Just something radical about it that I like.
2:02:19
Of course, with podcasts...
2:02:21
This was at the dinner table conversation, too.
2:02:23
A couple of things to note.
2:02:24
One, I also posted this on X, this
2:02:28
little hack.
2:02:29
And the notes I got back from typically
2:02:31
my followers go, So what?
2:02:34
This is not WAV files.
2:02:35
Everybody knows if you're going to save stuff,
2:02:37
you got to save it in WAV.
2:02:38
You got to save full...
2:02:40
Lossless, lossless audio.
2:02:41
Lossless, lossless.
2:02:42
Lossless.
2:02:42
Lossless.
2:02:43
And so I got that.
2:02:45
And so then you also had the...
2:02:47
Which is what...
2:02:48
You've heard it.
2:02:49
No one cares.
2:02:50
No one cares about quality anymore.
2:02:52
That went out the window a long time
2:02:54
ago.
2:02:54
That's what I said.
2:02:54
That's what came up at the dinner table.
2:02:56
J.C. says, well, he only downloaded it.
2:02:58
It's 160K.
2:03:01
And I said, which is more than adequate
2:03:03
for today.
2:03:05
It's not 128 or 64.
2:03:06
This podcast is 96.
2:03:09
Yeah, we're 96.
2:03:10
We're 96, man.
2:03:12
We don't care.
2:03:14
It's great.
2:03:15
And I started doing that for file size,
2:03:17
but now it became part of our sound.
2:03:20
It is literally part...
2:03:20
Our sound is fine.
2:03:21
People would say we have great sound and
2:03:23
we're doing it at 96.
2:03:24
Yeah, well, that's because you get a little
2:03:26
bit of artifacts when you do it at
2:03:28
96.
2:03:29
It adds a little more crunch to it,
2:03:30
which I enjoy.
2:03:31
It's almost like over-modulating onto magnetic tape.
2:03:37
That's also part of sound.
2:03:39
I'm a sound designer, Chuck.
2:03:42
Yeah, you're...
2:03:43
I'm a sound designer.
2:03:45
It's designed for earbuds.
2:03:48
But, yeah, so that was the only pushback
2:03:50
you got.
2:03:51
It was not Wave, not Wave.
2:03:53
Go talk to Neil Young with his failed
2:03:56
Wave product.
2:03:57
Remember that?
2:03:58
Yeah.
2:03:59
It was a good idea, but no one
2:04:00
cared.
2:04:01
Nobody cared.
2:04:03
Once MP3s came in and Napster, and you
2:04:06
could be sharing with your friends, it was
2:04:09
fantastic.
2:04:10
Man, I loved those days.
2:04:11
The sales of CDs were at their absolute
2:04:14
peak.
2:04:15
Yes, because everyone was...
2:04:16
During Napster, because you could hear music you
2:04:18
never thought of, because Napster had a recommendation
2:04:21
engine.
2:04:22
No, no, it wasn't the recommendation engine.
2:04:24
It was you got a file and then
2:04:26
you go look at the guy's drive.
2:04:27
What else you got in here?
2:04:28
Yeah, right.
2:04:29
Well, it was a...
2:04:32
Exploration system.
2:04:34
Okay.
2:04:34
But it basically was a kind of a
2:04:38
handmade version of recommendation.
2:04:41
It was beautiful.
2:04:41
Because what you do, you hear some music
2:04:42
from some guy, and you say, what else
2:04:44
is this guy like?
2:04:45
You go look at his files, and you
2:04:47
say, oh, I never heard of this band.
2:04:49
You download it.
2:04:50
Wow, these guys are good.
2:04:51
I'm going to buy their album.
2:04:52
But think about how good that was as
2:04:55
a discovery mechanism versus what you get on
2:04:57
Apple Music or Spotify.
2:04:59
Which sucks.
2:05:00
There is the left.
2:05:01
It sucks.
2:05:02
Oh, you might also like this.
2:05:04
No, I like rooting around in the guy's
2:05:06
hard drive.
2:05:07
Oh, look at that.
2:05:08
He's got 78s.
2:05:10
This is John.
2:05:10
This is John's drive.
2:05:12
That would be me.
2:05:13
What?
2:05:13
He's got all this cool...
2:05:14
Oh, he's got entire radio dramas.
2:05:17
It was all kinds of fun stuff.
2:05:19
We got to bring that back.
2:05:20
That was super fun.
2:05:23
Now, Anna's blog.
2:05:24
Bring that back.
2:05:25
That's what people want.
2:05:28
Yeah, the internet got ruined by apps.
2:05:31
Apps.
2:05:31
Got to have an app.
2:05:33
So anyway, get one of those modern podcast
2:05:36
apps.
2:05:36
And apparently, Podverse 2.0 will help you
2:05:39
find perfect podcasts.
2:05:43
Podcastapps.com is where you can find all
2:05:44
of them.
2:05:45
And these are the ones that also automatically
2:05:46
will give you a bat signal when your
2:05:48
favorite podcast goes live, which is what we
2:05:51
do with the No Agenda show, which is
2:05:52
really the only way to do it because
2:05:54
you have a built-in studio audience and
2:05:56
it's just more fun.
2:05:58
There's more energy.
2:05:59
It's great, which is great.
2:06:02
Face it.
2:06:05
What else?
2:06:06
I guess we'll talk about the Christmas special,
2:06:10
which Donald Winkler put together for us.
2:06:13
I got a lot of positive feedback on
2:06:15
this.
2:06:17
Did you get any feedback at all from
2:06:18
people?
2:06:19
None whatsoever.
2:06:20
None.
2:06:20
Hmm.
2:06:21
Well, I like the art that I chose,
2:06:24
even though we had...
2:06:26
Even the art that we chose.
2:06:27
Yeah, but did you not like my choice?
2:06:30
It was much better.
2:06:32
No, it was an executive decision you made.
2:06:34
Yes, I...
2:06:35
Wisely, because that's a terrific piece of art.
2:06:38
I called an audible.
2:06:39
You called an audible and you nailed it.
2:06:43
Baron Darren O'Neill created a piece of
2:06:45
art, which, and they had two of them,
2:06:48
and one kind of hid the pretty blonde's
2:06:49
face.
2:06:50
But I opted for just a...
2:06:52
She looks a bit like my mom, honestly.
2:06:54
That's how my mom looked back in the
2:06:55
50s, 50s, and 60s.
2:06:58
That was a very typical American look.
2:07:01
Wouldn't you agree?
2:07:02
Yeah.
2:07:03
No, she's a pretty...
2:07:04
For AI, it created a very pretty...
2:07:06
That's a pretty face.
2:07:08
Pretty face.
2:07:09
Pretty classic face.
2:07:10
Yeah.
2:07:10
And I even got...
2:07:11
I got comments on that, people saying, I
2:07:13
like how Adam and John just don't care.
2:07:16
They'll just put a pretty...
2:07:17
Don't care?
2:07:17
What are you talking about?
2:07:18
They'll just put a pretty blonde in the
2:07:20
picture.
2:07:20
He's a pretty blonde.
2:07:21
This is, we do care.
2:07:24
Hello?
2:07:24
It's just the opposite.
2:07:26
Because we know a pretty blonde sells.
2:07:30
Come on, let's be real.
2:07:31
It's money in the bank, people.
2:07:33
A pretty blonde always sells.
2:07:35
And she was holding up a No Agenda
2:07:36
Christmas book by Currie and Dvorak as curated
2:07:39
by Sir Donald Winkler.
2:07:40
It was a little small, but I decided
2:07:42
to go with it anyway.
2:07:44
It was fine.
2:07:45
Darren is a master.
2:07:47
He's a master, I tell you.
2:07:48
I don't know how he does it, but...
2:07:50
And of course, he doesn't do anything else.
2:07:52
I think his wife works.
2:07:54
I'm pretty sure.
2:07:55
Hold on to that one, Darren.
2:07:57
Whatever she says, do the chores.
2:07:59
Don't change anything.
2:08:01
Don't change anything.
2:08:02
It's a gem.
2:08:04
There were, of course, a lot of pieces
2:08:07
of art that were uploaded to noagendaartgenerator.com.
2:08:10
We should probably just take a quick look.
2:08:14
And let me see.
2:08:15
There was a lot of Christmas art.
2:08:17
There was a lot of redacted naughty and
2:08:19
nice lists.
2:08:22
You used the Jeffrey Rhea Christmas special artwork,
2:08:27
which was a nice piece, which Jeffrey did.
2:08:30
It was a tree, stylized tree with the
2:08:32
letters.
2:08:33
Do you think that was AI?
2:08:35
Absolutely.
2:08:36
Yeah?
2:08:37
Well, it was good prompting done.
2:08:40
And then there was just a ton of...
2:08:42
Well, okay, there's Darren's.
2:08:44
Some stockings.
2:08:46
I don't know.
2:08:46
It's just...
2:08:47
Oh, yeah.
2:08:47
Very funny blue acorn with the sweater puppies.
2:08:50
Okay, yeah, I'm not going to choose that.
2:08:51
Yeah, that was kind of cute.
2:08:52
The one you wanted, the actual cheesecake, because
2:08:55
that's what we discussed by Darren in honor
2:08:59
of Scaramanga, which I was...
2:09:01
Well, I didn't...
2:09:02
No, I don't think that's true.
2:09:04
I think that's the one we decided on.
2:09:06
No.
2:09:07
Oh, the Christmas cheesecake by Scaramanga?
2:09:10
I think so.
2:09:11
No, by Darren.
2:09:12
Oh, there's a better one by Scaramanga, but
2:09:14
it's ridiculous.
2:09:16
Not usable.
2:09:18
As long as you mention him, that's all
2:09:21
that matters.
2:09:21
He just wants to be mentioned.
2:09:22
Yeah, well, I just mentioned it, so he's
2:09:24
got his mention.
2:09:25
He's got a girl with big breasts.
2:09:27
So we're always looking for something fun, something
2:09:30
that...
2:09:31
But I don't really see anything yet, except
2:09:33
another butt from a comic strip blogger.
2:09:36
He's always showing the butts.
2:09:38
I don't know.
2:09:39
I think there's still room, people, to swoop
2:09:41
in and get the art for this episode.
2:09:44
It's part of the value for value model,
2:09:46
is how it works, is you give us
2:09:48
your time, your talent, and treasure in return
2:09:50
for the outstanding podcast that we deliver twice
2:09:53
a week for 18 years.
2:09:55
We just keep on delivering.
2:09:57
We're just delivering.
2:09:58
Are you tired of our delivery yet?
2:10:00
Because it's never going to stop.
2:10:01
We're going to keep on delivering for more
2:10:03
years, or a thousand more years.
2:10:05
Depends.
2:10:06
Johnson Newsletter.
2:10:09
Yeah, you saw that.
2:10:10
I did see that, yes.
2:10:13
Inside joke, everybody.
2:10:16
So we always thank our financial donors, value
2:10:20
for value supporters, $50 and above.
2:10:23
It's nice to hear your name called out.
2:10:25
It's even nicer when you get a credit
2:10:27
for it, like an official Hollywood credit, which
2:10:29
we do with our executive and associate executive
2:10:31
producers.
2:10:32
That's $200 and above.
2:10:33
And we'll read your note for an associate
2:10:35
or an executive, $300 and above.
2:10:37
But once again, thanks to Sir Donald Winkler.
2:10:39
He is a full-on producer, and was
2:10:42
credited as such in episode 1828.
2:10:45
We really appreciate what he did.
2:10:47
And we will be needing, of course, more
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best ofs, special shows for this coming year.
2:10:53
There's always stuff going on.
2:10:55
So we appreciate whenever someone puts something like
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that together for us.
2:10:59
Now to start with our first executive producer
2:11:01
for this week, just as we wind up
2:11:04
the year, the last one for this year.
2:11:06
Paul Lincolns comes in from Lansville, Pennsylvania, with
2:11:11
a cool $1,000.
2:11:13
And he says, see attached note.
2:11:16
It's a dame for his mom and his
2:11:18
dad.
2:11:18
So I'm going to read that now.
2:11:20
He says, ITM John and Adam.
2:11:23
My name is Paul Lincolns.
2:11:24
My mom, Rose, made an instantite donation in
2:11:26
May when I graduated from Thaddeus Stevens College,
2:11:30
earning my associate degree in welding technology.
2:11:33
I remember this kid.
2:11:35
I know, because whenever we get someone who's
2:11:37
doing something actually productive like welding, we're the
2:11:41
first.
2:11:41
Like welding.
2:11:42
Everyone can use a welder, by the way,
2:11:44
in their Rolodex.
2:11:45
Yes, we're always the first one to say
2:11:47
yes.
2:11:48
We approve that career move.
2:11:51
And he says, I scored my first job,
2:11:53
and now I get to sew with metal
2:11:55
for a living.
2:11:55
It's a welding term.
2:11:57
I sew metal.
2:11:58
She hit me in the mouth in 2020,
2:12:00
and this show has been the best amygdala
2:12:01
-shrinking bonding experience for us.
2:12:04
This is also my chance to make an
2:12:06
incident donation for her.
2:12:08
My gift to you, Ma.
2:12:10
Although it might be late, Merry Christmas.
2:12:12
I would like my knight name to be
2:12:17
Sir Mama's Boy of the Arc Welders, and
2:12:20
my mom's to be Dame Rosie Posey of
2:12:22
the Flower Child.
2:12:23
At the round table, we would like best
2:12:25
Texas brisket and ice cold beer.
2:12:29
This is also a reply to the quote
2:12:32
John read in episode 1768.
2:12:34
Please read the following.
2:12:36
Mom, though through our struggles in this insanity
2:12:40
-inducing world, you, Dad, and I have always
2:12:43
stood strong together.
2:12:44
You tell me I light up your day,
2:12:46
while you guys brighten my universe.
2:12:49
Oh, this is so sweet.
2:12:50
I could never have asked for better parents
2:12:53
who have taught me so much in life.
2:12:55
I am proud to be your son.
2:12:56
I love you so much.
2:12:58
And now I'd like a noodle gun and
2:13:00
a goat scream followed by health and jobs
2:13:02
karma for jingles.
2:13:03
That is a beautiful note and a beautiful
2:13:05
gift.
2:13:06
I'm gonna shoot you in the face with
2:13:08
my noodle gun.
2:13:10
You racist piece of shit.
2:13:14
I got my pasta glock locked and loaded.
2:13:19
Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.
2:13:22
Let's vote for jobs.
2:13:24
Yeah!
2:13:27
Karma.
2:13:29
Then we go on, and you're gonna have
2:13:31
to read this note because it blew out
2:13:32
my spreadsheet, and I can mouse around it,
2:13:34
but my mouse dropped dead in the last
2:13:37
segment.
2:13:38
Okay, hold on.
2:13:39
And so I'm recharging it as we speak.
2:13:41
Oh, you don't just put in, uh...
2:13:46
No, my mouse's battery is rechargeable.
2:13:49
Yeah, there's no batteries in it.
2:13:51
Oh.
2:13:51
Oh, I like to just put battery kind
2:13:54
in.
2:13:54
That's my favorite.
2:13:54
Yeah, I do, too, if situation.
2:13:57
This is from Baba Yaga.
2:13:59
Baba Yaga.
2:14:00
Hold on a second.
2:14:01
Baba Yaga, because you have some requests here.
2:14:04
I didn't have set.
2:14:05
Okay.
2:14:08
Let me get the Pelosi.
2:14:10
Okay.
2:14:13
So difficult.
2:14:15
I don't have Pelosi.
2:14:17
Hello from Baba Yaga in Littleton, New Hampshire.
2:14:20
This is $500.
2:14:21
Ooh, the witch has been active out there
2:14:24
in the world.
2:14:24
She is dancing upon the earth on bony
2:14:26
legs with her rusty metal teeth, eternally chomping
2:14:29
and clanging.
2:14:30
With bottomless hunger, she feasts on the world's
2:14:33
children as they laugh and frolic into her
2:14:35
waiting oven with nary a complaint or outcry.
2:14:39
Oh, how she shrieks in delight how easily
2:14:41
they come, how easily they are seduced into
2:14:44
her whimsical hut sitting high on scaly old
2:14:47
chicken feet.
2:14:48
Oh, how lucky she is to have an
2:14:50
endless stream of food that comes right into
2:14:52
her home.
2:14:53
And as the world turns, she cackles and
2:14:56
creaks on.
2:14:58
I'm not sure why that came out there,
2:15:00
but it's an interesting little bit.
2:15:02
I very much appreciated your media deconstruction since
2:15:05
COVID times.
2:15:07
I will forever turn a big bloodshot eye
2:15:09
of skepticism toward any and all major news
2:15:12
developments spewed from the grassy mouths of the
2:15:14
foul new ghouls, thanks in part to your
2:15:17
program.
2:15:19
Please deduce me.
2:15:21
You've been deduced.
2:15:24
And call out my dad, Rick, as a
2:15:26
major douchebag.
2:15:29
Douchebag.
2:15:30
Wow.
2:15:31
Rick.
2:15:34
Can you give a shout-out to my
2:15:36
ultra-mega-awesome Main Street business community here
2:15:38
in northern New Hampshire, the Woodcocks?
2:15:41
And please check out my art and store
2:15:43
at babayagaville.com.
2:15:46
That's babayagaville, B-A-B-A-Y-A
2:15:50
-G-A-V-I-L.com.
2:15:52
Check that out.
2:15:54
Thank you and a happy 2026 to you
2:15:57
both.
2:15:57
You deserve the world and more.
2:16:00
And as Jingles, he wants chemtrails.
2:16:03
I didn't have any of that.
2:16:04
Somehow I missed this entire note.
2:16:08
Chemtrails, yes.
2:16:09
And what else does he want?
2:16:11
Pelosi, shut up.
2:16:12
From Zach in the great North Beast, Baba
2:16:14
Yaga, Littleton, New Hampshire.
2:16:17
Chemtrails.
2:16:18
We will not shut up.
2:16:20
No, that wasn't Pelosi.
2:16:21
Hold on a second.
2:16:23
Where's Pelosi?
2:16:23
Here's Pelosi.
2:16:24
Shut up.
2:16:24
I knew I had it.
2:16:26
Shut up.
2:16:28
Shut up.
2:16:29
Shut up.
2:16:29
The Baron of Old Bay is in Willamington,
2:16:32
Delaware, and he came in with $343 and
2:16:34
says, wishing everyone a Merry Christmas.
2:16:38
I'm donating to help John and Adam enjoy
2:16:41
a well-deserved Christmas break from the show.
2:16:44
What is on the menu this Christmas, asks
2:16:47
the Baron of Old Bay, who finishes off
2:16:50
with cheers.
2:16:52
What did you have this Christmas?
2:16:54
Our Christmas dinner is coming up.
2:16:57
Mimi sent me a text.
2:16:59
Hey, Merry Christmas.
2:17:00
I said, Merry Christmas for whenever you're going
2:17:01
to celebrate.
2:17:03
Tuesday?
2:17:05
Yes, we had tamales.
2:17:09
What?
2:17:10
Tamales, yeah.
2:17:12
Do you have a tamale?
2:17:13
You made the tamales or you bought some
2:17:15
commercial tamales from a local?
2:17:17
No, one of our Mexican friends made tamales
2:17:20
for us.
2:17:22
They're a pain in the butt to make.
2:17:25
I wouldn't make them.
2:17:26
Yeah.
2:17:27
So, yeah, they were dynamite.
2:17:30
Also, I had some of Sir Patrick Scoble's
2:17:37
Shine Nog, which he gave me when I
2:17:43
saw him here in Texas, which is moonshine
2:17:45
egg nog.
2:17:48
He would have access to such a thing.
2:17:51
I would not recommend drinking it at 10
2:17:53
a.m. like I did because, man, I
2:17:55
got hammered.
2:17:56
Sir Scobie, Charlotte, North Carolina, 333.33. These,
2:17:59
by the way, of course, are combined donations
2:18:01
for the Christmas episode and today's episode.
2:18:05
And he wants to hear George Bush send
2:18:06
your cast and says, Merry Christmas, gentlemen.
2:18:09
JCD's tip of the day for egg nog
2:18:11
recipe warrants mention of another egg nog recipe
2:18:14
in the Too Many Eggs cookbook, George Washington's
2:18:17
recipe.
2:18:19
GW loved his distilled spirits and included copious
2:18:22
amounts in his egg nog, supposedly to get
2:18:24
sloshed with his holiday guests.
2:18:26
This is the third year in a row
2:18:27
I've used the recipe.
2:18:28
It's always a hit with family and friends
2:18:31
as both a drink and a topic of
2:18:33
conversation.
2:18:34
So this is the egg nog that Mimi
2:18:36
has in the book.
2:18:37
Is that why?
2:18:37
Is this what he's saying?
2:18:38
Yeah, yeah, it's in there.
2:18:40
Thank you, John and Adam, for another year
2:18:42
of superb media deconstruction and an overall outstanding
2:18:44
product.
2:18:45
Fellow producers, join in to support the best
2:18:47
podcast in the universe.
2:18:49
John and Adam deserve that holiday bonus, says
2:18:52
Sir Scobie, Duke of the Piedmont.
2:18:54
I know a lot of people want to
2:18:55
send blankets or water.
2:18:57
Just send your cash.
2:18:59
Boom.
2:19:01
Yeah, which brings us to Joe Henning, who
2:19:04
is in Flower Mound.
2:19:08
He's our Flower Mound guy.
2:19:10
$333.33. Hold on one second while I
2:19:13
bring this note up to the proper size.
2:19:15
The notes are a little fuzzy today.
2:19:18
Yeah, it's interesting.
2:19:20
You noticed that.
2:19:21
Yeah, I thought it was my eyes, but
2:19:23
no, it's the notes.
2:19:24
It's the camera.
2:19:26
She probably had smudge on her lens.
2:19:30
Gents, thank you for your awesome show.
2:19:33
I just love it.
2:19:35
Please consider my first-time donation at $333
2:19:37
.33 and give me a de-douching.
2:19:41
You've been de-douched.
2:19:43
I'm wondering if you could put the word
2:19:45
out.
2:19:45
I'm looking for a CNC machine shop.
2:19:49
A CNC machine shop to buy in the
2:19:52
following areas.
2:19:53
He wants to buy a machine shop in
2:19:56
either North Texas, anywhere in North Texas, Austin,
2:20:00
San Antonio, Wisconsin, Denver, or Colorado Springs.
2:20:04
Anybody selling their machine shop?
2:20:06
CDC machine, CNC machine shop.
2:20:09
What does that mean?
2:20:10
That's a computer-assisted CNC.
2:20:15
My target SDE or EBITDA range of $650
2:20:19
,000 to $1 million.
2:20:20
It's EBITDA, EBITDA.
2:20:22
EBITDA.
2:20:23
Hello.
2:20:26
Interested parties or anyone who might know of
2:20:29
something, please call or text me at, and
2:20:32
he's got a number.
2:20:33
I'm just going to read it out.
2:20:34
You can play it back if you want
2:20:35
to call him.
2:20:36
262-623-2294.
2:20:39
They can also email me at joe at
2:20:43
techwork, T-E-K-W-E-R-K
2:20:46
.com.
2:20:48
John or Adam, please spell out the email.
2:20:50
In addition to me, I just did that.
2:20:53
Regards, Joe Henning.
2:20:54
Wow.
2:20:55
He's using this show to do mergers and
2:20:58
acquisitions.
2:21:00
No agenda.
2:21:01
We're here for your M&A.
2:21:04
Love it.
2:21:05
Let me see.
2:21:06
That brings us to Dame Cheryl from Pinedale,
2:21:11
Wyoming, 333, and she also sent in a
2:21:15
note.
2:21:16
Then she says, good day, gentlemen.
2:21:18
I hope this finds you well.
2:21:19
Thank you for breaking down all the latest
2:21:21
news around the world, some of which is
2:21:23
quite terrifying and downright mad.
2:21:26
But coming from your voices, I can take
2:21:28
it.
2:21:28
You make me laugh, and for that, I
2:21:30
am grateful.
2:21:31
Happy Christmas.
2:21:32
Happy New Year.
2:21:33
Cheers to 2026, says Dame Cheryl, cowgirl of
2:21:37
the Wind River Range in Boulder, Wyoming.
2:21:39
She says, P.S., can you guess this
2:21:41
font?
2:21:43
Now, that's one for you, John.
2:21:44
Oh, I'm not on the note.
2:21:46
Oh, well, that's too bad.
2:21:48
I'll go.
2:21:48
I'll go.
2:21:49
I'll go.
2:21:50
It's on this page.
2:21:51
I'm going to say this is Geneva.
2:21:55
Geneva.
2:21:55
Whatever you say.
2:21:56
It's Vienna.
2:21:56
Whatever you say.
2:21:57
Whatever.
2:21:58
Let's take a look.
2:22:00
Okay.
2:22:01
Can you guess this font?
2:22:02
It looks like Times New Roman to me.
2:22:04
Okay.
2:22:05
I'll take it.
2:22:08
All right.
2:22:09
Onward.
2:22:10
Okay, now I've got to go back.
2:22:11
Since I haven't got a mouse, it makes
2:22:12
it that much more difficult.
2:22:15
But we've got Waterworks Plumbing.
2:22:16
Okay, now this is a donation from Waterworks
2:22:19
Plumbing in Minnesota.
2:22:20
$250 is no note, but I'll give them
2:22:22
a double up.
2:22:22
Karma, before you do that, there's something, I
2:22:26
think there was a run, like there was
2:22:28
an overload or something at PayPal.
2:22:31
So people who sent in last-minute donations
2:22:35
after the newsletter, they all ended at 3
2:22:38
.30, even though a number of them came
2:22:39
in, including Gigawatt Coffee, Dame Astrid, a whole
2:22:43
bunch of 60-buck donations.
2:22:45
Some of them will be missed.
2:22:48
So if you get your donation missed on
2:22:50
today's show, send us a note.
2:22:52
If you had something to say, and we
2:22:54
will read it in a future show.
2:22:55
I mean, there was so many people were
2:22:58
donating to the show that it clogged up
2:23:00
the pipes?
2:23:01
No, so many people were using PayPal.
2:23:04
It wasn't anything to do with our show,
2:23:06
but all I know is that I kept
2:23:08
downloading the spreadsheet, and it ended at 3
2:23:11
o'clock yesterday when there were donations still
2:23:14
coming in, and I waited and waited and
2:23:16
waited.
2:23:17
I waited until midnight to go to bed.
2:23:18
It still said 3.30 or whatever the
2:23:21
time was.
2:23:22
And so everything that came in after that,
2:23:23
it either had to be put in by
2:23:24
hand or it was going to be missed.
2:23:27
Okay, so send us a note, and here's
2:23:29
a double up Karma.
2:23:30
You've got...
2:23:33
Karma.
2:23:34
For Waterworks Plumbing LLC.
2:23:36
Patrick Brown from Fairfax, Virginia, also $250 and
2:23:40
no note, so we'll give him a double
2:23:41
up Karma as well.
2:23:42
You've got...
2:23:45
Karma.
2:23:47
And in the same...
2:23:50
In the same vein, Michael Raimondi in Hollis,
2:23:55
New Hampshire, $250 double up Karma.
2:23:59
You've got...
2:24:02
Karma.
2:24:03
And coming in with 242, we've seen that
2:24:07
number before.
2:24:08
It's Christopher Graves in Mount Ockham, California.
2:24:11
Happy holidays, John.
2:24:12
Mount Ockham is in El Dorado wine country,
2:24:15
not far from the Shingle Springs.
2:24:18
Pick up some shingles.
2:24:20
Well, we may have run out of eggnog
2:24:21
fudge, by the way, dynamite.
2:24:24
We can say we had 100 plus producers
2:24:26
participate in our ITM 10 plus 10, bringing
2:24:30
in an additional donation of $1,131.30
2:24:34
from these brave knights and dames.
2:24:37
No eggnog fudge?
2:24:38
Well, we were inspired by Gigawatt Coffee and
2:24:41
made an amazing chocolate mocha fudge for the
2:24:44
new year.
2:24:45
Shop littlejohnscandies.com and use ITM 10 plus
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10, you spell that P-L-U-S,
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through January 10th.
2:24:52
No jingles, just jingle bells.
2:24:55
All right, thank you very much.
2:24:56
It's an outstanding product.
2:24:58
I love showing it to people and saying,
2:25:00
they've been doing this from 19...
2:25:02
They've been supporting Noah Jenner since 1924 and
2:25:05
making this fudge.
2:25:07
And it's a hit.
2:25:08
Everybody who eats this fudge just falls in
2:25:11
love with it.
2:25:12
North Idaho Sanity Brigade in Post Falls, Idaho.
2:25:17
23456, a favorite.
2:25:20
On behalf of the North Idaho Sanity Brigade,
2:25:24
here's another crowdfunded donation, courtesy of our Christmas
2:25:28
meetup.
2:25:28
We have continued our once a week broadcast
2:25:32
of North Idaho, our hyperlocal podcast, deconstructing the
2:25:37
mainstream of the Idaho panhandle, noidshow.com.
2:25:44
It's a good podcast.
2:25:46
They took my advice to heart.
2:25:47
They're doing a hyperlocal podcast.
2:25:51
To reiterate what we asserted when we last
2:25:56
donated, every region needs its own Noah Jenner.
2:25:58
Adam, can you give us an update on
2:26:01
the Noah Jenner hyperlocal podcast network you proposed?
2:26:04
Yes.
2:26:05
So far, you're the only ones.
2:26:07
But when we have more, we'll have a
2:26:09
network.
2:26:10
If you don't want to do it anymore,
2:26:11
perhaps we'll reach out to Tom Green.
2:26:14
Blow, blow.
2:26:15
Blow, blow.
2:26:18
Please play What's That in Your Mouth, the
2:26:21
crowdchant version, if we have it.
2:26:23
We do.
2:26:24
It comes from them, so of course I
2:26:26
have it.
2:26:27
Oh, he's doing self-promotion.
2:26:29
That's good.
2:26:30
All signed off is Sir Scott the Jew
2:26:33
and the North Idaho Sanity Brigade.
2:26:35
What's that in your mouth?
2:26:38
There you go.
2:26:40
Sir Rosas, associate executive producer for this episode,
2:26:44
2-2-2, a row of ducks, and
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he sent in a note.
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Greetings, podosphere heroes.
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Please accept my humble donation and shout out
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to my lovely girlfriend's hand-cut vintage tin
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jewelry shop, No Remnants.
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Each piece is unique, being hand-cut from
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vintage and upcycled biscuit and tea tins.
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She also has the history of every tin
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listed on her website, where they were manufactured,
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what they were used for.
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She also accepts custom projects.
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If you have an item you'd like created
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into custom jewelry.
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No Agenda producers, please check out najewelry.shop
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or noremnants.com.
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Oh, that's some good marketing right there.
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najewelry.shop or noremnants.com.
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I've also included a pair for each of
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your wives.
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Oh, I didn't see you come in.
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Yeah, no, we have.
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Have you seen it?
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Are they nice?
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They're nice.
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I gave them to Jay.
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Did you wrap it up and say Merry
2:27:42
Christmas?
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No, she's the one who opened the box.
2:27:46
I hope you have a happy Christmas, Uncle
2:27:48
Adam and Uncle John.
2:27:50
Sir Rosas, Knight of Show 1000.
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And he adds there at the end, I
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might be a baronet, but I'll get it
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sorted for the next donation.
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Perfect.
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Thank you very much.
2:27:59
Dean Astrid came in from Tokyo.
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From Tokyo, 22026.
2:28:05
They're John and Adam.
2:28:07
You always will be the best, all caps.
2:28:12
The Christmas special was much fun.
2:28:15
And hearing Sir Chris's and Sir Felix's songs.
2:28:19
I didn't know they were.
2:28:20
Yeah, they were in there.
2:28:22
Brought us a real tear to my eyes.
2:28:25
Thank you to Sir Donald Winkler for putting
2:28:27
it together.
2:28:28
You're all such geniuses.
2:28:30
Wishing you, the keepers, all the lovely people
2:28:33
in the back office and all the fantastic
2:28:34
producers around the world a happy new year
2:28:37
to celebrate somewhere around the 10th of January,
2:28:41
perhaps.
2:28:42
That's your date.
2:28:44
You're referring to me, I think.
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I believe so.
2:28:47
Dame Astrid and Sir Mark, Duchess and Archduke
2:28:51
of Japan and all the disputed islands in
2:28:53
the Japan Sea.
2:28:55
Thank you, Dame Astrid.
2:28:56
Yeah, thanks.
2:28:57
James Story from Lower Hutt, Stokes.
2:29:01
Stokes Valley?
2:29:02
Let me see.
2:29:03
Yeah, Stokes Valley in New Zealand.
2:29:07
Yeah.
2:29:08
That's our only New Zealand.
2:29:09
It's funny because I had a New Zealand
2:29:10
clip about...
2:29:12
50 shows ago.
2:29:14
No, there's a show.
2:29:15
I have a clip, I think, on today's
2:29:17
show.
2:29:17
But there's a big exodus and they're bitching
2:29:20
and moaning in New Zealand about all the
2:29:22
people leaving to move to Australia.
2:29:23
Well, hold on.
2:29:24
Is that a bonus clip?
2:29:25
Well, if it's on the list, let's see.
2:29:27
I don't see any...
2:29:29
I don't see it.
2:29:30
Yeah, we take...
2:29:32
Regan Boag, Rusky Bloggers.
2:29:34
I don't think you put it in.
2:29:38
No, it's too bad.
2:29:40
Would have been fun.
2:29:41
Would have been.
2:29:44
He says, $220.
2:29:46
Merry Christmas, gents.
2:29:47
Thank you for your hard work this year.
2:29:48
Best regards, Sir James Story from New Zealand.
2:29:51
Thank you very much.
2:29:54
And...
2:29:54
Okay, lost word.
2:29:56
Oh, Eli the Coffee Guy is up.
2:29:57
He's in Bentonville, Illinois.
2:29:58
$212.28. 20...
2:30:01
It says 28.
2:30:03
Yeah, today's the 28th.
2:30:05
2-12-28.
2:30:06
Oh, I thought it was the...
2:30:07
Okay, yeah, you're right.
2:30:08
What am I thinking?
2:30:10
Happy New Year.
2:30:11
We made it through 2025 and what a
2:30:12
wild ride it's been.
2:30:14
We've kicked things off Joe Biden.
2:30:17
We kicked things off Joe Biden as president.
2:30:23
I don't know how that wording works, but
2:30:25
okay.
2:30:25
I think he means we kicked things off
2:30:27
with Joe Biden.
2:30:28
With, maybe.
2:30:29
Yeah, ISIS on Bourbon Street and a special
2:30:30
forces operator self-immolating in front of Trump
2:30:34
building in Vegas.
2:30:35
Wow, forgot about that one.
2:30:37
Forgot about all of that.
2:30:38
Yeah, I forgot about the guy who lit
2:30:41
himself.
2:30:41
And somehow with everything...
2:30:43
That's interesting.
2:30:44
And somehow with everything else that followed, it
2:30:47
already feels like ancient history.
2:30:49
Or forgettable history.
2:30:50
This is because time is...
2:30:51
Elon and big balls, Charlie Kirk, Katy Perry
2:30:54
coming out as Trudeau's beard.
2:30:57
And that's barely a highlight reel.
2:30:59
You know, I think time is compressing.
2:31:02
Time is accelerating.
2:31:04
Something's happening.
2:31:05
It must be three-eye vision, whatever that
2:31:08
comet is that's coming towards us.
2:31:09
Now we're sitting on the precipice of 2026
2:31:13
as the old Chinese saying goes.
2:31:15
May you live in interesting times.
2:31:17
Mission accomplished.
2:31:18
Here's wishing everyone a peaceful and enjoyable new
2:31:22
year to that end.
2:31:23
Here it comes.
2:31:25
To that end, new year, new coffee.
2:31:28
This Tuesday, 1230.
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We're releasing our new bourbon barrel-aged Mexican
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Veracruz.
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Start the year off right.
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Visit Gigawatt Coffee Roasters and grab a bag.
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Stay caffeinated.
2:31:39
Happy 2026.
2:31:40
Eli the coffee guy.
2:31:41
That's gigawattcoffeeroasters.com.
2:31:45
Wow, I can't wait to taste that.
2:31:47
Bourbon barrel-aged Mexican Veracruz.
2:31:50
Juliana Lee.
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Don't know where she's from, but she sent
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us $200.60 and says, Merry Christmas.
2:31:56
Thank you for everything.
2:31:57
And we thank you very much.
2:31:59
Ray Rials in LaGrange, Texas.
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$200, no note.
2:32:05
Gives him a double up.
2:32:07
You've got...
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Karma.
2:32:11
The same goes for William Spratt from Marietta,
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Georgia.
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$200, no note.
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Also a double up karma for you.
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You've got...
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Karma.
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Onward to Linda Lepatkin in Cuyasol Rock, Colorado.
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Wants a jobs karma and says, Hit the
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ground running in the new year with a
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resume that gets results.
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Go to imagemakersinc.com for all your executive
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resume and job search needs.
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That's Image Makers Inc.
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with a K and work with Linda Liu,
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Duchess of Jobs and writer of winning resumes.
2:32:44
P.S. Loved Gitmo Nation Christmas.
2:32:48
Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.
2:32:52
Let's vote for jobs.
2:32:54
You've got karma.
2:32:56
Now typically Linda Lepatkin is the last one
2:32:58
on the list, but no, we have a
2:33:00
few more associate executive producers with $200, all
2:33:04
four of them.
2:33:05
We have Sir Donald of Calgary, Alberta, Canada.
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He says, Hi guys.
2:33:09
Hope this note finds you well.
2:33:11
After some time away in Edmonton, I moved
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back into Calgary, Alberta.
2:33:15
Bought a house and I'm looking forward to
2:33:16
the referendum in 2026 for Alberta to become
2:33:19
its own sovereign country.
2:33:23
Are they doing a referendum in 2026?
2:33:26
I don't know.
2:33:26
I didn't know that.
2:33:27
51st state, baby.
2:33:29
It's a tall hill to climb, but it's
2:33:30
worth it.
2:33:31
My birthday is December 27th, so I will
2:33:33
celebrate by donating to No Agenda.
2:33:36
Thanks.
2:33:36
Well, happy, happy birthday.
2:33:38
One day late.
2:33:39
Thanks for the news and analysis from around
2:33:41
the world.
2:33:41
Hats off to the best podcast in the
2:33:44
universe.
2:33:45
Please put my birthday donation of $200 USD
2:33:47
to good use.
2:33:48
That's $273.52 Canadian dollar-ettes and cents.
2:33:54
After my knighthood in 2012, this donation brings
2:33:57
my lifetime total donations to about 2,050,
2:34:00
so I'm now a double knight, which I
2:34:03
think is, isn't that a baronet?
2:34:05
I think it's a baronet.
2:34:07
Yes.
2:34:07
Accounting below.
2:34:08
Can you please play You Will Obey, Trains
2:34:11
Good, Planes Bad, and R2-D2 Karma?
2:34:15
I think we can do that.
2:34:16
Thank you for your attention to this matter,
2:34:18
says Sir Donald of Calgary.
2:34:23
All aboard, trains good, planes bad.
2:34:29
You've got karma.
2:34:37
Derek Allison in Rock Springs, Wyoming, 200 bucks,
2:34:41
and he just simply says Merry Christmas, which
2:34:43
does have a jingle request.
2:34:45
He'd love that Obama phone clip.
2:34:47
Everybody in Cleveland, low minority, got Obama phone.
2:34:50
Keep Obama in president, you know.
2:34:53
He gave us a phone.
2:34:56
I found the longer version of it, but
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it's like a minute.
2:34:59
When he says Romney sucks, that's my favorite
2:35:02
part.
2:35:02
Sir Skizzle.
2:35:03
We don't know where Sir Skizzle is from.
2:35:05
Wait a minute, Sir Skizzle has a note.
2:35:07
Let's see.
2:35:07
Sir Skizzle.
2:35:10
Where is Sir Skizzle?
2:35:12
Well, I guess this is Sir Skizzle.
2:35:15
Merry Christmas.
2:35:16
John and Adam from Belfair, Washington, next to
2:35:20
the Hood Canal.
2:35:21
John, if you want your windows cleaned, no
2:35:23
charge.
2:35:24
Thanks for everything, Sir Skizzle.
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420.
2:35:28
There you go.
2:35:29
He's thinking of you at Christmas and wishing
2:35:31
you all the best, according to his card.
2:35:34
Now we go on to the last donation.
2:35:37
And I had blown up the other one,
2:35:39
so I've got to blow this one down.
2:35:41
It's another note.
2:35:43
Daris Morris.
2:35:44
Yeah, these are all handwritten notes.
2:35:46
Daris.
2:35:48
Daris Morris.
2:35:50
See, you said Darcy.
2:35:51
Yeah, I messed up.
2:35:52
It's Daris.
2:35:53
So I messed up, too.
2:35:54
So we both messed up, and then Daris.
2:35:55
Daris Morris.
2:35:57
Daris.
2:35:57
It says right there.
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I love her handwriting.
2:35:59
It says right there.
2:36:00
It clears Bell.
2:36:00
She writes it out.
2:36:01
Daris.
2:36:02
I love her handwriting.
2:36:04
I do, too.
2:36:04
It's oddly sexy.
2:36:10
To John and Adam.
2:36:11
200 bucks.
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I'm giving $50 for every time I've heard
2:36:16
the word Jamoke.
2:36:19
Outed by Adam.
2:36:21
One of my dad's favorite terms.
2:36:26
It's up to four as of today.
2:36:30
So here's $200, Daris Morris.
2:36:35
Jamoke, Jamoke, Jamoke, Jamoke.
2:36:37
I can't stop saying it now.
2:36:39
You're going to break the poor woman.
2:36:41
Daris.
2:36:41
Thank you, Daris.
2:36:42
Jamoke.
2:36:45
Jamoke.
2:36:45
It's a good term.
2:36:47
And thank you to all of these executive
2:36:48
and associate executive producers for episode 1829 as
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we storm on towards the new year.
2:36:54
And, of course, we'll be thanking the rest
2:36:55
of our supporters.
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It is value for value.
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We're just happy.
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Your names are now real valid credits.
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We go out.
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We hit people in the mouth.
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What's that in your mouth?
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Shut up, Steve.
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Yeah, that was good.
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Thank you.
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Thank you all very much.
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It was a nice Christmas giving.
2:38:10
Don't you all feel good about it?
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You should.
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You should feel very good.
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Because when you give, it always comes back
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to you.
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It always does.
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It's amazing how it works.
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I have to find the clip list.
2:38:22
I have two little things I'd like to
2:38:27
discuss here.
2:38:28
Okay.
2:38:29
I've been looking up some.
2:38:32
So, I came up with this term, limbic
2:38:35
capitalism.
2:38:37
Limbic capitalism.
2:38:38
You came up with the term or you
2:38:40
ran into the term?
2:38:42
Well, I came up with it, but I'm
2:38:44
sure that it's been used before.
2:38:46
I have a feeling.
2:38:47
And limbic capitalism is basically everything you see
2:38:53
online.
2:38:55
It's your news feed.
2:39:01
This porn is limbic.
2:39:02
Limbic being the brainstem.
2:39:05
But also ultra-processed foods qualify under limbic
2:39:10
capitalism.
2:39:11
In essence, everything people are making money on
2:39:14
these days is limbic capitalism.
2:39:16
The number one being gambling.
2:39:19
And I've been talking to a lot of
2:39:21
the Zuma Waffen.
2:39:23
And they all say, oh, yeah.
2:39:24
It's out of control.
2:39:26
And the young people are so happy.
2:39:29
Oh, I won 25 bucks.
2:39:33
Because it's not even about the money.
2:39:35
It's just about that innate, natural dopamine.
2:39:42
It's either dopamine or in some cases cortisol
2:39:45
if you lose.
2:39:46
It's all these things that your body needs
2:39:48
to have these reactions.
2:39:49
But they're just being created artificially.
2:39:52
Mainly by Silicon Valley companies.
2:39:55
And NPR had a report about sports betting.
2:39:58
And it was done by...
2:40:00
Suffer and Succotash.
2:40:01
I'm Scott Simon.
2:40:07
Now it's time for sports.
2:40:08
A world series to cherish.
2:40:10
An NFL dynasty deflates.
2:40:12
Plus, what sport didn't have a gambling scandal
2:40:15
in 2025?
2:40:17
Sports writer Howard Bryant joins us.
2:40:19
Howard, thanks for being with us.
2:40:20
Hello, Scott.
2:40:21
One gambling scandal after another in sports this
2:40:24
year.
2:40:24
From the NBA, Major League Baseball, college basketball.
2:40:28
Players suspended for gambling and having bets on
2:40:31
certain occurrences in the game.
2:40:33
Which is how I'll describe prop bets.
2:40:35
In the year ahead, do fans need to
2:40:37
ask, can I trust what I'm seeing?
2:40:39
This day was coming.
2:40:40
And I think that the sports leagues had
2:40:43
taken the position that I never agreed with.
2:40:45
I never quite understood it.
2:40:47
These players make so much money.
2:40:49
That they would not risk the adrenaline rush
2:40:53
that comes with gambling.
2:40:54
And we've seen that not to be the
2:40:56
case.
2:40:56
We've seen that Major League Baseball with Luis
2:40:58
Ortiz and Emmanuel Clase are involved in a
2:41:01
scandal.
2:41:02
They may never play again.
2:41:03
We've seen the Jonte Porter in the NBA.
2:41:05
Now the Chauncey Billups and Terry Rougier case.
2:41:08
And the attitude has been that, well, essentially
2:41:13
the leagues are going to take the money.
2:41:15
The commercials are everywhere.
2:41:17
I mean media is funded by DraftKings and
2:41:20
FanDuel and the rest of it.
2:41:22
And then the players take the fall.
2:41:23
And so the more you watch these games
2:41:26
with your high-definition televisions and the controversial
2:41:29
calls.
2:41:29
Especially in the NFL and the NBA.
2:41:32
The more you begin to wonder, are you
2:41:34
watching a legitimate contest?
2:41:36
And that is the death knell for sports.
2:41:37
So the question is really going to be,
2:41:39
are you going to trust what you're watching?
2:41:42
Or are we simply going to watch these
2:41:44
athletes be the ones who individually get bounced
2:41:48
out of the game.
2:41:49
And the game maintains its legitimacy.
2:41:51
I think it's a very, very difficult balance.
2:41:52
And I think 2025 really showed that.
2:41:54
You're a sports ball guy, John.
2:41:57
How do you feel about it?
2:41:58
Is it ruining sports?
2:42:01
It can.
2:42:02
I think it's not good.
2:42:03
I think gambling should be discouraged.
2:42:06
And the fact that these guys are all
2:42:08
in bed.
2:42:09
ESPN now has ESPN Bet.
2:42:11
They talk about DraftKings.
2:42:12
But ESPN Bet is like an operation run
2:42:15
out of ESPN.
2:42:16
The NFL and both the NFL and the
2:42:18
NBA.
2:42:19
I'm not sure about Major League Baseball.
2:42:21
But I know those two operations have done
2:42:23
deals.
2:42:25
So they're in bed with the gamblers.
2:42:27
It's just like everybody, it's all the gamblers.
2:42:29
It's gambler, gambler, gambler.
2:42:31
And they push it and push it and
2:42:32
push it.
2:42:32
They got whole shows on ESPN about the
2:42:35
betting lines and what you should be betting
2:42:38
on.
2:42:38
They have a couple of women in particular
2:42:40
that I have watched on ESPN Bet, one
2:42:44
of their shows, who are quite good at
2:42:47
this.
2:42:48
And it's all a lot of prop bets.
2:42:50
I think you should go with this.
2:42:51
It's disgusting.
2:42:54
Here's Scott Simon choking up over it.
2:42:57
But there was a historically great World Series.
2:43:00
Los Angeles Dodgers defeated the Toronto Blue Jays
2:43:02
in a series that twisted, turned, and set
2:43:07
records.
2:43:07
I love that.
2:43:09
I love that he left that in.
2:43:11
He choked on his own spit.
2:43:15
Those guys all have cough buttons at that
2:43:18
facility.
2:43:18
It was perfect.
2:43:21
This is Scott Simon.
2:43:22
Scott Shyman at his best.
2:43:24
Los Angeles Dodgers defeated the Toronto Blue Jays
2:43:27
in a series that twisted, turned, and set
2:43:31
records over seven games.
2:43:33
See, I'm choked up.
2:43:35
You are.
2:43:35
You're reclaimed.
2:43:36
It's incredible, Scott.
2:43:37
I mean, that is the thing that we
2:43:38
love about the games.
2:43:39
Every time there's a scandal, whether it's steroids,
2:43:41
whether it's gambling, when the game is played
2:43:43
at its best, people come to it, and
2:43:45
they love it, and it reminds them of
2:43:47
all the reasons why they got hooked in
2:43:49
the first place, when their team wins.
2:43:51
It is that reminder of the power of
2:43:53
what sports brings for us.
2:43:55
You know, so I was looking into this
2:43:59
limbic capitalism, and to be fair about it,
2:44:02
it was Gemini that came up with the
2:44:05
term.
2:44:06
I'm like, oh, I made up a term
2:44:08
because it was my prompt.
2:44:10
And I'm like, how can the No Agenda
2:44:12
show benefit from limbic capitalism?
2:44:16
That was my prompt.
2:44:18
And I think I'm glad the way you're,
2:44:20
I like the way you think.
2:44:21
And it said, well, the No Agenda show
2:44:25
is, in fact, the antithesis of limbic capitalism.
2:44:29
I'm like, yeah, I guess you're kind of
2:44:32
right about that.
2:44:33
But it had a suggestion for us.
2:44:36
It had a limbic capitalism suggestion.
2:44:39
And who doesn't?
2:44:41
It was to randomly choose a below $50
2:44:47
donor to receive a special knighthood, thereby spurring
2:44:54
people on to gamble on the show.
2:44:59
I can hear your wheels crunching.
2:45:06
But I did like how it said that
2:45:08
we are the antithesis of limbic capitalism, which
2:45:12
is true.
2:45:12
Limbic capitalism hacks the system by offering super
2:45:15
stimuli that trigger rewards more intensely and frequently
2:45:19
than nature ever intended.
2:45:21
Over time, this bypasses the brain's executive function
2:45:24
of self-control, leading to habit formation, compulsion,
2:45:27
and eventually addiction.
2:45:29
Oh, there you go.
2:45:30
There you go.
2:45:31
That's it.
2:45:31
That's it.
2:45:32
Not good.
2:45:32
We are addictive, but not for your limbic.
2:45:35
Not for that reason.
2:45:36
We don't want to do that.
2:45:37
In fact, now I should mention it.
2:45:39
No, we don't.
2:45:39
Definitely out.
2:45:40
We are amygdala capitalism.
2:45:43
That's what we are.
2:45:45
Ha ha.
2:45:47
Well, talking about getting sick, I have the...
2:45:51
Getting sick.
2:45:52
I got the Rinvoke ad.
2:45:56
What?
2:45:57
Rinvoke?
2:45:58
What is Rinvoke?
2:45:59
Rinvoke is one of these drugs, and this
2:46:02
is the contraindications and all the bad things
2:46:04
that can happen to you from using Rinvoke.
2:46:07
And lasting steroid-free remission.
2:46:10
Check, check, and check.
2:46:11
Rinvoke can lower ability to fight infections.
2:46:14
Before treatment, test for TB and do blood
2:46:16
work.
2:46:16
Serious infections, blood clots, some fatal.
2:46:18
Cancers including lymphoma and skin.
2:46:20
Serious allergic reactions, GI tears, death, heart attack,
2:46:22
and stroke occurred.
2:46:23
CV event risk increases in age 50 plus
2:46:26
with a heart disease risk factor.
2:46:27
Tell your doctor if you've had these events,
2:46:29
infection, Hep B or C, smoked, are pregnant,
2:46:31
or planning.
2:46:32
Don't take if allergic or have an infection.
2:46:34
Put UC and Crohn's in check.
2:46:36
Oh, it's for Crohn's disease?
2:46:37
Yeah.
2:46:38
Oh, wow.
2:46:39
And I think what they're doing, because I
2:46:42
can't prove this, because I didn't get the
2:46:44
other clip, but I think they have, they
2:46:47
rattle off all these dangerous things that can
2:46:49
happen, different, for the same companies, the same
2:46:54
drug, but they have a different ad and
2:46:55
they have a different list.
2:46:56
Oh, interesting.
2:46:58
Just a way to get around, I think,
2:46:59
a way to get around the rules.
2:47:02
So I've been searching for you, actually not
2:47:04
really searching, I've had my eye out, because
2:47:06
you were looking for a fourth or fifth
2:47:09
vector in this particular story.
2:47:13
And it's from Reuters.
2:47:15
Again, I'm pretty sure Reuters is using AI
2:47:18
voices.
2:47:20
Yeah, you said that.
2:47:21
I said it, I'm saying it again, because
2:47:23
when you listen to it, it sounds like
2:47:25
it.
2:47:25
Were you not on the lookout for EEOC
2:47:28
stories?
2:47:30
Yeah, I believe so.
2:47:31
Here we go.
2:47:32
Under the Trump administration, the EEOC is ramping
2:47:36
up scrutiny of corporate diversity programs.
2:47:39
It's already opening inquiries into how companies handle
2:47:42
sex and race in hiring and promotions.
2:47:46
Our race and justice correspondent, David Hud-Nuno,
2:47:50
spoke with Lucas and explains what's...
2:47:53
Tell me this isn't AI.
2:47:55
You know, I'm not convinced of it.
2:47:57
The pauses are too lengthy.
2:47:59
If someone did this read, I'd be like,
2:48:00
go and read it again.
2:48:03
It's too lengthy.
2:48:05
So those priorities boil down to four buckets.
2:48:09
One of them is attacking all forms of
2:48:12
race discrimination, which includes diversity, equity, and inclusion
2:48:17
-related race and sex discrimination.
2:48:20
The second is dealing with religious liberty issues
2:48:25
that spans the gamut of antisemitism to COVID
2:48:31
-19 vaccine mandates.
2:48:33
And then the third is gender identity and
2:48:37
focusing on women's sex-based rights.
2:48:41
And then the fourth is national origin discrimination,
2:48:45
which in her view is protecting American workers
2:48:48
regardless of their race, which is a shift
2:48:54
in the EEOC's mission, which used to protect
2:48:57
workers against discrimination in the sort of traditional
2:49:01
sense.
2:49:02
And so this conservative view of civil rights
2:49:07
is a massive pivot for the agency that
2:49:11
has huge ramifications for companies, for employees, et
2:49:17
cetera.
2:49:18
Please tell me this is part of what
2:49:20
you wanted to hear because it was so
2:49:21
boring.
2:49:22
No, not at all.
2:49:22
It was so boring to me.
2:49:23
Hey, we have a...
2:49:24
No, you purposely picked a very boring, useless
2:49:28
clip.
2:49:28
No, I didn't.
2:49:30
This is your way of getting back at
2:49:33
me.
2:49:33
No, no, I was trying to help you.
2:49:35
I was trying to help you.
2:49:38
We have the president and Zelensky on the
2:49:42
quad screens.
2:49:46
How are they doing?
2:49:47
Are they fighting?
2:49:49
Are they punching each other?
2:49:50
Are they shaking hands as you're putting your
2:49:53
hand on this guy's shoulder and towering over
2:49:56
him?
2:49:57
They're at lecterns.
2:49:58
They're at lecterns with American...
2:50:00
Well, let's listen in, shall we?
2:50:02
Let's have a quick listen.
2:50:04
Get something done, and if there's something that
2:50:06
comes up, I'd speak.
2:50:07
But otherwise, I don't think there's any reason
2:50:08
to.
2:50:09
In your mind, sir, what are the thorniest
2:50:11
issues still unresolved?
2:50:13
Well, I think the land you're talking about,
2:50:17
some of that land discontent.
2:50:18
All right, they resolve nothing.
2:50:20
Of course not.
2:50:21
This is just bullcrap.
2:50:22
Okay, I got a last series I'm going
2:50:25
to do today.
2:50:26
All right, let me guess.
2:50:27
This is from the BBC, World Service is
2:50:31
about rusky bloggers and podcasters in the training
2:50:36
centers around the world.
2:50:38
They're training these Russians.
2:50:39
They're going to be attacking us with the
2:50:41
bots and the bloggers and the podcasters.
2:50:43
Oh, no.
2:50:44
Oh, no.
2:50:45
Oh, no.
2:50:45
Yeah.
2:50:45
So we can be Putin's puppet once again?
2:50:48
Can we go to these training centers?
2:50:50
Is there money involved?
2:50:51
If there was money involved, we'd be there
2:50:53
already.
2:50:54
Well, after Russian forces invaded and captured large
2:50:57
parts of eastern Ukraine over three years ago
2:51:00
now, the Kremlin tightly controlled any information about
2:51:03
life in Ukraine's occupied regions.
2:51:06
But in recent months, one source of information
2:51:09
has come from pro-Russian bloggers and content
2:51:12
creators.
2:51:13
Their videos about life under occupation have gathered
2:51:16
thousands of online followers.
2:51:18
The BBC's James Beardsworth has the story.
2:51:24
Across Russian-occupied Ukraine, hundreds of content creators
2:51:28
are making slick, professional-looking videos celebrating life
2:51:32
under Russian occupation.
2:51:34
Mariupol is becoming better and better every day.
2:51:38
Its changes are literally shocking, says 23-year
2:51:41
-old content creator Maria Chushkina, one of hundreds
2:51:44
of channels run by often young, attractive men
2:51:47
and women, which broadcast pro-Russian content from
2:51:50
occupied Ukraine to tens of thousands of followers.
2:51:53
Oh, this is great.
2:51:55
So instead of what's probably true, that these
2:51:59
people are happy, because Ukraine was killing them
2:52:04
previously, now they're just shills for Russia?
2:52:10
I have no...
2:52:11
You know, the validity of this story is
2:52:13
somewhat baffling to me.
2:52:14
I don't know if it's true or these
2:52:16
people are just a bunch of propagandists.
2:52:19
But it's interesting, and I would expect something
2:52:21
like...
2:52:21
This is, like, a good use of the
2:52:23
medium if you're a propaganda outlet.
2:52:27
I'm just fascinated by the story.
2:52:29
I don't know whether any of it's true.
2:52:30
But here's the thing.
2:52:31
They're speaking in Russian.
2:52:33
It's not like they're talking to American audiences
2:52:35
or European audiences.
2:52:37
Yeah, no, it's for local consumption, yeah.
2:52:40
I like how this particular British North Sea
2:52:44
Nexus reporter says young, young.
2:52:48
It's like H.
2:52:49
H, that's another thing.
2:52:51
There's a certain type of Brit that says
2:52:53
H.
2:52:55
H.
2:52:56
H?
2:52:56
Yeah, instead of H, they say H.
2:52:59
H.
2:52:59
Yes, H.
2:53:01
It's code.
2:53:02
No, one of my helicopter instructors was a
2:53:06
Brit.
2:53:06
He says, just land over there on the
2:53:08
H.
2:53:08
I'm like, what's the H?
2:53:10
The H.
2:53:11
What's the H?
2:53:11
The H over there, the H.
2:53:13
Oh, you mean the H?
2:53:15
Yes, the H.
2:53:16
Young, young H.
2:53:17
H, young H.
2:53:21
One of those creators is Elizaveta Churyakova, a
2:53:25
21-year-old from Mariupol.
2:53:27
Despite her city being almost completely flattened by
2:53:30
Russia's invasion of...
2:53:31
H speech.
2:53:33
...three years ago, Elizaveta now posts pro-Russian
2:53:37
content, posing in front of the Russian flag
2:53:39
and celebrating the Kremlin's rebuild of her city.
2:53:43
I asked her why she began making her
2:53:45
videos.
2:53:45
She is voiced by one of my colleagues,
2:53:48
as she didn't want her voice to be
2:53:49
broadcast.
2:53:50
To be honest, I always want to create
2:53:52
a content even before all the famous events.
2:53:55
And when everything changed, I saw that my
2:53:57
city was often presented on the internet as
2:54:00
a ghost town.
2:54:01
And I wanted to show the reality that
2:54:03
we are living, not what is sometimes written
2:54:05
in the news.
2:54:06
The bloggers carefully choreographed their videos, often showing
2:54:09
newly built apartment blocks, shops and restaurants built
2:54:13
by Russia, but rarely mentioning the death and
2:54:15
destruction caused by the war, or who started
2:54:18
it in the first place.
2:54:20
Elisaveta told me more about how she believes
2:54:22
her city has changed since Russia's arrival.
2:54:25
There is a feeling that the city is
2:54:27
coming to life, that the constant internal tension
2:54:30
that used to be in the background has
2:54:32
gone.
2:54:33
Like many other content creators in the region,
2:54:35
Elisaveta learned how to make her eye-catching
2:54:38
content at the Donbass Media Center.
2:55:00
The center offers free, vocational video making courses
2:55:04
to people under 25.
2:55:06
Pavel Khodbovsky is a blogger and teacher at
2:55:09
the school.
2:55:12
The Donbass Media Center is a school of
2:55:13
bloggers.
2:55:14
A few hundred people have studied here.
2:55:16
In Donetsk, in Lugansk, in Mariupol and one
2:55:19
in Malitopol.
2:55:20
It's very cool, because somebody needs to say
2:55:22
what is happening in our region in order
2:55:24
to tell, let's say, residents of Britain or
2:55:26
France, so that when they watch the content,
2:55:28
they understand that their government, or the Ukrainian
2:55:31
government, is trying to sell them something that
2:55:33
is far from the truth.
2:55:35
Ilya Yablokov is an excellent blogger and teacher
2:55:36
at the Donbass Media Center.
2:55:36
He is an expert on Russian disinformation at
2:55:38
the University of Sheffield in the UK.
2:55:40
He has been monitoring these schools.
2:55:42
They've created this network of media centers, propaganda
2:55:46
outlets, let's put it that way, that aggregate
2:55:48
information, but also produce it on an industrial
2:55:51
scale.
2:55:52
If you look at the pictures, you see
2:55:54
absolutely regular boys and girls.
2:55:57
These guys are being trained to spread the
2:56:01
message about the war in Donbass, or rather
2:56:03
the peace in the Donbass.
2:56:05
I put those claims to Elisaveta.
2:56:07
I just live in my city and show
2:56:09
my reality.
2:56:10
I'm a patriot of my country, but this
2:56:12
is not about work or promoting interest.
2:56:15
Videos posted by the Donbass Media Center show
2:56:17
hundreds of teenagers doing presentations about what they
2:56:20
call Russia's new regions, with prizes, including trips
2:56:25
to Moscow, for the most successful students.
2:56:28
Wow.
2:56:29
Maybe we could hand out Donbass Media Center
2:56:33
diplomas.
2:56:36
That's actually not a bad idea.
2:56:39
The Russians have, in the earlier report that
2:56:42
you played, they've absconded with all the nationalized
2:56:45
everything and IP.
2:56:47
That's right.
2:56:48
So IP, that means they've given up IP.
2:56:50
So the IP, which is the Donbass Media
2:56:53
Center, is now public domain.
2:56:57
There you go.
2:56:59
So we could give a degree from there.
2:57:00
Well, I think there's one last clip.
2:57:02
For some of the millions forced to flee,
2:57:05
like former Mariupol resident Alena Kildeshova, the content,
2:57:09
which she says often appears on her social
2:57:11
media feed, is just another cruel reminder of
2:57:14
a home she knows she may never be
2:57:17
able to return to.
2:57:18
How dare they?
2:57:19
There were dead bodies all around the streets
2:57:21
and now they are saying that Mariupol is
2:57:24
in bloom.
2:57:24
I can't understand how the city can be
2:57:28
blooming on blood and rebels.
2:57:31
That report from James Beardsworth there.
2:57:34
Well, I'm not going to hire James Beardsworth,
2:57:37
who says, what kind of English are they
2:57:40
speaking over there?
2:57:42
You know, I've had, I had a conversation
2:57:44
with Andrew Olowski recently over the phone, basically.
2:57:51
And the English is, a lot of these
2:57:53
English guys, it's getting harder and harder to
2:57:58
understand.
2:57:58
And I noticed this when I was writing
2:57:59
at PCMag UK over the years, I was
2:58:03
there probably there for a decade.
2:58:04
So I'd go to England at least twice
2:58:06
a year.
2:58:07
And I was there and it was just,
2:58:09
I just started noticing that the English is
2:58:11
harder and harder and harder to understand.
2:58:14
Yeah.
2:58:15
Yeah.
2:58:17
It must have been BBC Regional.
2:58:21
I have no idea.
2:58:22
It was BBC World Service, you said?
2:58:23
It was World Service.
2:58:24
Yeah, that was World Service.
2:58:25
But it doesn't mean it wasn't an original
2:58:26
report they just repurposed.
2:58:27
It's the Christmas Bee Team.
2:58:29
That's what it is.
2:58:30
Christmas Bee Team.
2:58:32
I got three clips left in a series.
2:58:34
This is, I just thought it was interesting.
2:58:37
It is from NPR.
2:58:39
This is about South America and how South
2:58:42
America is loving Trump and is shifting right.
2:58:47
Several countries in the South.
2:58:48
Wait, wait, where'd this come from?
2:58:50
NPR.
2:58:51
And they say South America loves Trump?
2:58:54
Oh yeah.
2:58:55
Yeah.
2:58:55
Yeah.
2:58:56
Well, they say a lot of things.
2:58:57
Well, of course it's all bad, obviously.
2:59:01
It's not good.
2:59:02
Several countries.
2:59:03
It didn't make sense.
2:59:03
No, it's not good.
2:59:04
In South America elected conservative and even far
2:59:07
right leaders in 2025.
2:59:09
The goal here is to bring security and
2:59:11
stability to the hemisphere, to the region, the
2:59:13
region we live in, which has not received
2:59:15
enough attention.
2:59:16
For more, we go now to NPR Correspondence.
2:59:18
Which you, by the way, called it.
2:59:19
You called it that Rubio was going to
2:59:21
be doing this.
2:59:22
Rubio was focusing on South America and there
2:59:24
he is in the clip.
2:59:25
It's all his fault, of course.
2:59:26
And he is.
2:59:27
He's Trump's a little minion in South America.
2:59:30
For more, we go now to NPR Correspondent
2:59:32
Kerry Kahn in Rio de Janeiro, Brazil.
2:59:34
Thanks for being here, Kerry.
2:59:36
Hello, Daniel.
2:59:37
Hello.
2:59:38
Hello.
2:59:40
So let's start just talking about this big
2:59:43
turn to the right in the region.
2:59:45
Overwhelmingly, voters are concerned about crime, violence and
2:59:49
security.
2:59:49
And in the case of Chile, also illegal
2:59:52
immigration.
2:59:52
That to me is the significant shift in
2:59:55
the landscape here.
2:59:57
When the left took power, the major emphasis
2:59:59
back then was economic inequality, social issues, the
3:00:03
environment.
3:00:04
Now it's safety.
3:00:06
And the left just has not come through
3:00:08
with either effective policies to combat the organized
3:00:10
crime, violence or credible promises that they're going
3:00:13
to do something better.
3:00:15
And the right has really straightforward, tough on
3:00:17
crime plans and slogans.
3:00:19
And I'm not commenting on the quality of
3:00:22
the rights proposals.
3:00:23
All I'm saying is that they are resonating
3:00:25
better with voters.
3:00:27
Is great.
3:00:28
Our hemisphere.
3:00:29
This is exactly what we want.
3:00:31
We wanted to turn against the communist, socialist
3:00:34
morals and values that have destroyed everything.
3:00:39
And they can't stand it.
3:00:41
OK, so what are what are some of
3:00:43
those measures get tough on crime like those
3:00:46
made infamous in El Salvador, the mano dura
3:00:49
iron fist policies that are just being emulated
3:00:52
everywhere, bringing the military to patrol the streets,
3:00:55
sound familiar, build maximum security prisons, toughen sentences.
3:01:00
And in many places, the population is more
3:01:03
than willing to curb civil rights to combat
3:01:05
that crime.
3:01:06
Also, many just want to crack down on
3:01:08
illegal immigration.
3:01:09
Remember, nearly eight million people have fled the
3:01:12
authoritarian rule of Nicolás Maduro in Venezuela.
3:01:15
And most have stayed here in this region.
3:01:17
And the right has deftly conflated and merged
3:01:21
the high crime fears and illegal immigration sound
3:01:23
familiar, like with the recent win in Chile
3:01:26
by the ultra conservative there.
3:01:28
He pledged to build fences, even dig huge
3:01:30
ditches along the border, as well as start
3:01:33
mass deportations of migrants.
3:01:34
Does sound familiar.
3:01:36
Wow.
3:01:36
Which sounds a lot like Trump's pledges here
3:01:39
in the U.S. Diaries.
3:01:41
Yes.
3:01:41
No surprise that Trump's policies get a very
3:01:44
warm reception, and they're being mirrored here to
3:01:46
among conservative voters and anti left voters.
3:01:49
His military intervention against Venezuela and drug traffickers
3:01:53
is very popular.
3:01:55
Trump's also stepped in for many of his
3:01:57
favorite candidates and his allies.
3:01:59
There was that 20 billion dollar bailout for
3:02:02
Argentina's far right libertarian president Javier Millet that
3:02:08
came
3:02:20
right before he was facing a tough midterm
3:02:24
election.
3:02:25
And Trump pledges support for the new right
3:02:27
leaders in Bolivia and in Chile.
3:02:29
And the populist anti crime rhetoric is really
3:02:32
working.
3:02:32
Some have even coined it with a new
3:02:34
term security populism.
3:02:36
Will Freeman of the Council on Foreign Relations
3:02:39
was talking to me about that.
3:02:40
It's not surprising that this is gaining so
3:02:43
much popularity, given how powerful and rich organized
3:02:47
crime groups have become here.
3:02:48
Yes.
3:02:49
Killing fishermen is very popular in South America.
3:02:52
It's amazing.
3:02:53
But here it's a big problem.
3:02:54
They're like, yeah, kill those fishermen.
3:02:56
Why are these crime groups becoming so powerful
3:02:58
right now?
3:02:59
I mean, hasn't organized crime been a problem
3:03:01
for a long time in Latin America?
3:03:04
But they're richer than ever.
3:03:06
Wait, wait.
3:03:06
Sure.
3:03:07
How do you answer it when you ask
3:03:10
me something?
3:03:10
Sure.
3:03:11
You know, it just makes.
3:03:12
Sure.
3:03:13
Sure.
3:03:14
Sure.
3:03:15
Well, it was it was it was a
3:03:17
leading question.
3:03:18
Let's hear it again.
3:03:18
Why are these crime groups becoming so powerful
3:03:21
right now?
3:03:22
He answers his own question by saying, I
3:03:24
mean, hasn't organized crime been a problem for
3:03:26
a long time in Latin America?
3:03:28
Sure.
3:03:28
But they're richer than ever.
3:03:30
They're making billions and not just from drugs,
3:03:33
but migrant trafficking and increasingly illegal gold trafficking.
3:03:36
Gold prices are soaring right now.
3:03:38
Now listen to the example that's coming up.
3:03:41
And so is demand for drugs in the
3:03:43
US and Europe and especially cocaine.
3:03:46
It's on the rise.
3:03:47
The use in the US, but cocaine use
3:03:50
is at an all time high in Europe.
3:03:52
And so is coca production.
3:03:53
And that happens mainly in Colombia.
3:03:56
So most cocaine smuggling and transportation goes through
3:03:59
Ecuador.
3:04:00
And I just spent a lot of time
3:04:01
there this year and I spent time with
3:04:02
this one banana farmer and I just want
3:04:04
to tell you a little bit about him.
3:04:05
He battles extortion and kidnapping attempts by the
3:04:08
cartels.
3:04:09
He told me this one story that has
3:04:11
stuck with me so much.
3:04:12
He was visiting friends in Europe and they
3:04:14
were all partying and someone pulled out cocaine
3:04:17
and he said he was just floored.
3:04:19
He told them, don't you know what that
3:04:21
has done?
3:04:21
Your consumption has done to my country.
3:04:23
And he said the people at the party
3:04:25
just could not connect the dots with him.
3:04:28
Oh, wow.
3:04:29
Oh, wow.
3:04:30
Oh, wow.
3:04:32
Oh, wow.
3:04:33
Oh, wow.
3:04:34
Oh, wow.
3:04:34
You're partying.
3:04:35
You're partying.
3:04:36
It's killing my country.
3:04:37
Oh, wow.
3:04:39
Oh, wow.
3:04:40
Oh, wow.
3:04:40
By the way, we're closer to a deal
3:04:42
than ever, according to the quad screen.
3:04:44
Closer than ever to a deal.
3:04:46
Closer than ever.
3:04:47
We are.
3:04:48
So that means what?
3:04:49
It means nothing.
3:04:50
It means absolutely zip.
3:04:52
I'm going to show my support by donating
3:04:54
to No Agenda.
3:04:55
Imagine all the people who could do that.
3:04:57
Oh, yeah, that'd be fab.
3:04:59
Yeah, on No Agenda.
3:05:03
In the morning.
3:05:05
And talking about meaning zip, Adam's going to
3:05:07
zip through the list of donors above $50.
3:05:11
But last two shows, it'll take a little
3:05:13
while and here he comes.
3:05:14
Is it really going to take a while?
3:05:16
Is it that long?
3:05:17
Is it that long?
3:05:18
It's 30 more than usual.
3:05:20
Okay, well, here we go.
3:05:21
Where's my spreadsheet?
3:05:23
Here's the spreadsheet.
3:05:24
Here we go.
3:05:26
Christopher Gaya, Dallas, Texas, 133.33. Jim Buell
3:05:31
in Fitchburg, Wisconsin, 125.25. Lorraine Converse, Edmond,
3:05:37
Oklahoma, 12345.
3:05:39
We see what he did there.
3:05:40
Same goes for Dame Brazen Bird from Edmond,
3:05:43
Oklahoma.
3:05:43
Wait a minute.
3:05:45
That's the same.
3:05:46
Edmond, Oklahoma, 12345.
3:05:48
Interesting.
3:05:49
Wants a health karma for our friend, Dave,
3:05:51
who survived a cardiac event and a jobs
3:05:54
karma from my daughter, Grace Ann, who has
3:05:56
been job searching for over seven months.
3:05:59
I suggest giving Linda Liu, the Duchess of
3:06:01
Jobs and writer of resumes, a call.
3:06:04
I will do that at the end.
3:06:05
Zadok Brown, the third, 105.35. Mahalo.
3:06:10
Ward Detweiler, spots, location unknown, 105.35, and
3:06:18
he said, a lot of people are saying
3:06:19
this, Merry Christmas, you filthy animals.
3:06:21
That was part of our special.
3:06:24
$100 from Ian Fields, parts unknown, Alice Bradley
3:06:28
in Knoxville, Tennessee, Jacqueline Lentz in Muskego, Wisconsin,
3:06:32
Deanna M.
3:06:33
Evie in Pacific City, Oregon, Joshua Chartier in
3:06:38
Riddleton, Tennessee, and Anonymous in Lake Oswego, Oregon.
3:06:42
And there's Kevin McLaughlin, the Archduke of Luna
3:06:44
and lover of boobs.
3:06:46
Merry Christmas, he says, with his 8008.
3:06:49
He's in Concord, North Carolina.
3:06:51
Robert Ludwig, Nevada, Iowa, with a boob donation.
3:06:55
Herb Lamb, Sugar Hill, Georgia, 8008.
3:06:58
Boob from him as well.
3:06:59
And a second on form, Kevin McLaughlin, the
3:07:02
Archduke of Luna and lover of boobs.
3:07:03
He did it for both shows.
3:07:04
Thank you.
3:07:05
Brian Kaufman.
3:07:06
That's nice.
3:07:07
Yes, it is nice.
3:07:08
Brian Kaufman, Scottsdale, Arizona, 75.75, which is
3:07:11
69.69 plus fees.
3:07:14
Greg Hartlaub in Cincinnati, Ohio, 75.75 from
3:07:17
Fat Dad BMX, North Little Rock, Arkansas.
3:07:20
I haven't heard from him in a while.
3:07:21
Thank you very much.
3:07:22
Nicholas Leary in Columbus, Ohio, 72.72. John
3:07:26
Alberini, Parts Unknown, 70.26. Victoria and James
3:07:30
in West Orange, New Jersey, right near where
3:07:33
I used to live, Verona, Montclair, $70.23.
3:07:36
Dame Becky Arlington, Washington, 69.69. Semper Pici,
3:07:41
LLC, in Sharerville, Indiana, 68.86. Nice palindrome.
3:07:46
Strike.
3:07:47
Thank you, Bitcoiner, 66.74. Robert Sourin, Nunheim,
3:07:52
Nunheim, Nunheim, Nederland, 65.
3:07:55
Marco Masse, Parts Unknown, 63.31. Matthew Elwert
3:08:00
in Weatherford, Texas, small boob, 6.006. Dame
3:08:03
Liberty Mom in Vista, California, small boob for
3:08:06
her, or from her, 6.006. Christopher Witzel,
3:08:09
Spirit Lake, Idaho.
3:08:10
That is also a small boob, 6.006.
3:08:13
Tim Heasel, Hanford, California, 58.09, which is
3:08:17
double nickels on the dime plus fees.
3:08:18
Thank you for mentioning that.
3:08:20
Preston Price, 55.55. He's from Woodstock, Georgia.
3:08:24
Jim Caslin in Buda, Texas, 55.
3:08:27
Hakon Andersen in Portland, Oregon, 52.72. Jonathan
3:08:32
Dennison, Parts Unknown, 52.72. Nathan Gwynn, Jackson,
3:08:36
Tennessee, 52.72. Baron Henry of Outpost West,
3:08:39
Ranchos Palos Verdes, California, 52.42. Cameron Ling,
3:08:44
or Ling, North Branch, Minnesota, 52.21. Forrest
3:08:48
Martin with the palindrome, 50.05, Parts Unknown.
3:08:51
John Carini, Port St. Lucie in Florida, 50
3:08:55
.01. Noah McDonald, Traverse City, Michigan, 50.
3:08:58
These are all 50s.
3:09:00
Alex Delgado, Aptos, California.
3:09:02
George Wuschit in La Vernia, Texas.
3:09:04
Mitchell Goheen in Silver Spring, Maryland.
3:09:07
Lindsey Christensen in Santa Fe, New Mexico.
3:09:09
Michael Biscagli in Staten Island.
3:09:11
Oh, Staten Island, how you doing?
3:09:14
That's New York.
3:09:15
Brian Gately in Bayville, New Jersey.
3:09:17
Scott Van Gelder in Centerville, Massachusetts.
3:09:20
Benjamin Ryan in Alliance, Ohio.
3:09:23
Richard Gardner, Parts Unknown.
3:09:24
Aaron Weissgerber in Bend, Oregon.
3:09:27
Laura Bertolini in Mobile, Alabama.
3:09:30
Stephen Jaffe in Ranchos Palos Verdes, California.
3:09:34
No name, Christmas bonus, thank you.
3:09:36
Salt Lake City, Utah.
3:09:38
Leanne Shipley in Covington, Washington.
3:09:40
Michael Myers in Diamond Head, Missouri.
3:09:43
Mississippi.
3:09:44
Mississippi, thank you.
3:09:46
Laura Bertolini comes in again with $50.
3:09:49
Thank you for both shows, Automatic.
3:09:51
And Stephen Jaffe rounds it out with $50
3:09:55
from Ranchos Palos Verdes in California.
3:09:59
A nice list, thank you all very much
3:10:01
for supporting us through the Christmas holiday.
3:10:03
It's highly appreciated.
3:10:05
Of course, it's value for value, which means
3:10:07
whatever you get out of the show, you
3:10:08
just send it back to us.
3:10:09
That is the value that we deserve.
3:10:11
As long as you send something, we're totally
3:10:13
happy with that.
3:10:14
And of course, we never mention anyone under
3:10:16
50 for reasons of anonymity.
3:10:18
We thank you all very much for your
3:10:20
49.99s, your 33s, your 11s, your 12
3:10:23
.12s, your 3s, your 4s, whatever it is,
3:10:26
it is value for value.
3:10:27
Thank you very much.
3:10:28
And support the show.
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Go to noagendadonations.com.
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♪ It's a bad thing, bad thing ♪
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♪ On No Agenda ♪ Strangely enough, a
3:10:45
very short list.
3:10:46
David Kekta, also known as Melo-D, happy
3:10:48
birthday to his awesome stepdaughter, Bella Green.
3:10:52
She turned 24 on December 18th.
3:10:55
And Sir Donald of Calgary, as we heard
3:10:56
earlier, celebrated his birthday on December 27th.
3:11:00
That was yesterday.
3:11:01
We say happy birthday on behalf of everybody
3:11:03
here, the staff and management of the best
3:11:05
podcast in the universe.
3:11:06
♪ It's a bad thing, yeah ♪ ♪
3:11:08
Title changes, turning faces late ♪ ♪ Nice
3:11:13
changes, don't wanna be a douchebag ♪ Well,
3:11:18
he's been around for a long time, so
3:11:19
no chance of him being a douchebag.
3:11:21
And he said he'd figure out the numbers,
3:11:24
but it is the honor system.
3:11:25
We trust you.
3:11:25
Sir Donald of Calgary, double night is what
3:11:29
he called it, but we just call you
3:11:30
a baronet here on the No Agenda peerage
3:11:33
ladder, which I think is still available somewhere.
3:11:35
Maybe noagendapeerage.net or something like that.
3:11:38
It's out there somewhere.
3:11:39
Congratulations and thank you very much for your
3:11:42
support, sir.
3:11:42
And we do have one of the final
3:11:46
awardees of a No Agenda Peace Prize, thanks
3:11:50
to his very peacemaking, peace-loving donation of
3:11:54
$1,000, because that's all you need to
3:11:56
do to receive this prize.
3:11:58
Paul Lincolns, you are now an official recipient
3:12:02
of the No Agenda Peace Prize.
3:12:06
Please go to noagendarings.com and make sure
3:12:10
that you send us an address where to
3:12:12
send this very handsome and very authentic-looking.
3:12:16
It's Nobel Peace Prize-like is what it
3:12:18
is, but it's an official Peace Prize.
3:12:19
It looks exactly the same.
3:12:20
I should mention and make a correction here
3:12:22
on you.
3:12:24
For peerage, it's dvorak.org slash peerage.htm.
3:12:31
And is that an updated list?
3:12:34
Yes, this list has always been there.
3:12:36
We haven't changed the peerage around.
3:12:39
Oh, no, but I thought there was a
3:12:41
list.
3:12:41
No, no, a list of people.
3:12:43
Yes.
3:12:44
I thought you meant a list of the
3:12:45
various levels.
3:12:46
No, so let me correct you on your
3:12:47
correction on me.
3:12:49
Okay.
3:12:50
You're corrected.
3:12:52
Thank you.
3:12:53
Hey, I forgot to give the jobs karma
3:12:55
that was requested early on.
3:12:57
Let me do that right now.
3:12:57
Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.
3:13:01
Let's vote for jobs.
3:13:03
You've got karma.
3:13:04
And we do have one dame and one
3:13:06
knight to bring into the No Agenda round
3:13:09
table.
3:13:10
If you can bring out your blade, that'll
3:13:11
be just the deal.
3:13:12
Yeah, right here.
3:13:12
That's beautiful.
3:13:13
Perfect, very much.
3:13:15
Thank you.
3:13:16
Paul Lincolns and Rose, please step up on
3:13:19
the podium.
3:13:19
Both of you support the No Agenda Show
3:13:21
in the amount of $1,000 or more.
3:13:23
I'm therefore very, very proud to pronounce the
3:13:25
K-D as Serp Mama's Boy of the
3:13:30
Arc Welders and Dame Rosie Posey of the
3:13:33
Flower Child.
3:13:34
These are great names.
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For you, of course, we have Hookers and
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Blow, Red Boys, and Chardonnay.
3:13:39
We've got the best Texas brisket and ice
3:13:41
cold beer on tap as requested.
3:13:43
Along with that, we've got Ruben S.
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Ruben and Rose, Geishas and Sake, Vodka and
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Vanilla, Bong Hits and Bourbon, Sparkling Cider, Nestor's,
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Gin, Dirt and Gerbils, Breast Milk and Mablam,
3:13:52
or if you so please, we've got the
3:13:54
Mutton and the Mead.
3:13:56
Congratulations to both of you.
3:13:57
The last Dame and Knight of 2025.
3:14:01
You get a beautiful Knight or Dame ring.
3:14:04
Go to noagenderrings.com.
3:14:05
You can see them right there.
3:14:06
Let us know what your ring size is.
3:14:08
We'll get it off to you as soon
3:14:09
as possible.
3:14:09
In the package, you will find some wax.
3:14:11
You can use that to seal your important
3:14:13
correspondence.
3:14:14
And of course, as always, a certificate of
3:14:16
authenticity.
3:14:17
And thank you both for supporting the No
3:14:19
Agenda Show, value for value, and becoming Knight
3:14:23
and Dame of the No Agenda Roundtable.
3:14:25
No Agenda Meetups.
3:14:32
Yeah, baby, it's always a party.
3:14:34
Yeah, baby, it's always a party.
3:14:34
And it doesn't matter if it's vacation time,
3:14:37
summertime, wintertime, springtime.
3:14:39
There's always meetups taking place.
3:14:40
You can find them all at noagendameetups.com.
3:14:43
Here is Scott the Jew with the North
3:14:45
Idaho Sanity Brigade Meetup, the Christmas extravaganza.
3:14:49
Here at the Christmas extravaganza with the North
3:14:52
Idaho Sanity Brigade.
3:14:53
Why wouldn't it be Sir Scott the Jew,
3:14:56
your host for the evening?
3:14:57
This is Jason here at Trails End Brewery.
3:14:59
I want to wish everybody a Merry Christmas
3:15:01
and a Happy New Year.
3:15:03
Jack from Post Falls here, where we're not
3:15:05
thinking of a white nationalist Christmas.
3:15:07
Good morning.
3:15:08
This is Brian, a spook in the federal
3:15:11
government from Post Falls.
3:15:13
Sick of all the renouncing and the denouncing,
3:15:15
I wanted to do a good old-fashioned
3:15:17
announcing.
3:15:18
So I would like to announce the No
3:15:20
ID Hyperlocal podcast for Northern Idaho.
3:15:24
It has been announced.
3:15:26
We have the gold-digging cowgirl here just
3:15:28
wishing Adam and John and the whole No
3:15:31
Agenda family a Merry Christmas and many blessings
3:15:33
in 2026.
3:15:36
Sir Donald of the Fire Bottles here, Secretary
3:15:38
General of Greater Idaho, even though that is
3:15:42
not what it says on my Secretary General
3:15:46
Certificate.
3:15:47
Hey guys, my name's Megan McElmore.
3:15:49
I'm working at Trails End Brewery and it
3:15:52
was such a pleasure serving these guys again.
3:15:54
It was so fun.
3:15:55
Hey guys, who is the original Podfather?
3:15:59
Tom Green.
3:16:00
Tom Green is the Podfather.
3:16:03
You people are horrible.
3:16:06
Do you hear what they said?
3:16:07
Tom Green.
3:16:08
Tom Green.
3:16:10
That's not right?
3:16:11
You guys suck.
3:16:14
When did that happen?
3:16:15
I have no idea.
3:16:19
I don't know.
3:16:20
It doesn't matter to me.
3:16:21
I mean, Adam Carolla I thought was bad
3:16:23
enough.
3:16:24
Now it's Tom Green.
3:16:25
He keeps shifting around.
3:16:27
Hey, Leo Bravo.
3:16:29
We all know, we all know.
3:16:30
We're not idiots.
3:16:31
Leo Bravo had his, gosh, this must be
3:16:35
number 70 by now up there in Los
3:16:36
Angeles.
3:16:37
Pretty wet, but they still had their meetup.
3:16:39
Hey everybody, it's Leo Bravo at meetup number
3:16:41
70 at Brewery X in Anaheim.
3:16:44
Here's the phone for some greetings from our
3:16:46
friends.
3:16:47
Adam and John, Shabbat Shalom.
3:16:50
We're here at the meetup with Leo at
3:16:52
Brewery X.
3:16:53
Thanks for your courage.
3:16:54
I love we got one guy who was
3:16:56
actually Scott the Jew and then we got
3:16:58
this guy doing Shabbat Shalom.
3:17:00
It's fantastic.
3:17:02
ITM, Dames by your friends.
3:17:04
ITM, Sir Mainframe of the 7th Fleet here.
3:17:07
Defender of the Archduke and Duchess of Japan
3:17:09
and all the disputed islands in the Japan
3:17:11
Sea.
3:17:12
Chilling with Bravo Meister in SoCal.
3:17:15
Hi Adam and John.
3:17:16
I'm Noemi from Philippines.
3:17:19
This is Leo Kim Fopop wishing you a
3:17:21
happy festivus, Merry Christmas and Gregorian calendar new
3:17:24
year.
3:17:25
Hey guys, good to be here.
3:17:28
Good to be at Brewery X finally once
3:17:30
again.
3:17:31
Adios mofo.
3:17:32
Hello fellow listeners.
3:17:33
This is Sean at Brewery X with Leo
3:17:35
Bravo.
3:17:36
Supporting no agenda.
3:17:38
I kill bugs for a living so you
3:17:39
don't have to.
3:17:40
In the morning, this is Lady Chinaka of
3:17:42
California.
3:17:42
Don't give up on us Adam.
3:17:44
We love Cali.
3:17:46
And by the way, this is how the
3:17:47
Tucker laugh goes.
3:17:48
Gentlemen, gentlemen, gentlemen.
3:17:50
I'm so happy to finally be here with
3:17:52
the ACJCD crew.
3:17:55
Thank you for having me.
3:17:56
In the morning, this is Angie from the
3:17:58
ranch here at Brewery X.
3:17:59
It's a great time.
3:18:00
Come on down.
3:18:01
We all bust our tables so you heard
3:18:04
from the servers.
3:18:05
Hey Adam and John, it's Steve surviving.
3:18:08
I'm out here in California visiting Leo and
3:18:10
friends.
3:18:11
Coming out from Wyoming.
3:18:13
This is Becky saying to the loom motherfuckers.
3:18:15
In the morning.
3:18:17
There's always one cusser in the bunch, isn't
3:18:19
there?
3:18:20
Also got a note from Shannon Summers, the
3:18:24
Fort Wayne Club 33 Navidad post Christmas meetup.
3:18:27
They had a six pack, five regulars and
3:18:29
a fellow traveler, aka a newbie visiting from
3:18:32
Arkansas.
3:18:33
And he's had a great meetup.
3:18:35
So it didn't provide a report, a audio
3:18:38
report, but did provide a written report.
3:18:39
So I wanted to give you that.
3:18:40
These are the no agenda meetups.
3:18:42
There's one taking place on Tuesday.
3:18:44
That's the 30th, the Tri-State Propagation version
3:18:48
1.0. Gert House in Evansville, Indiana.
3:18:52
You need to RSVP for that.
3:18:54
It may be at Gert's actual house.
3:18:58
And then we have a bunch coming up
3:19:00
in January.
3:19:01
Santa Rosa, California, Raleigh, North Carolina, Berg en
3:19:04
Dal in the Netherlands, Alpharetta, Georgia, Oakland, California,
3:19:07
Los Altos, California.
3:19:09
Many more meetups to be found at noagendameetups
3:19:11
.com.
3:19:12
This is the place where you go to
3:19:13
get connection.
3:19:14
It always gives you protection.
3:19:16
These are your first responders in an emergency.
3:19:19
Go to one.
3:19:20
You will never stop.
3:19:21
You will keep going to them.
3:19:22
They're a lot of fun.
3:19:23
And you will meet children from other lands.
3:19:25
Noagendameetups.com.
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It's easy and always a party.
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♪ Sometimes you wanna go hang out with
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all the nights and days ♪ ♪ You
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wanna be where you want to be ♪
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♪ Drink it all, hell's a flame ♪
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♪ You wanna be where everybody feels the
3:19:45
same ♪ ♪ Just like a party ♪
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All right, everybody.
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Just like a party.
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We do have end of show mixes, a
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heavy metal ditty from Baron Darin coming up.
3:19:57
He did that because John wanted to hear
3:19:59
a different kind of voice on the A
3:20:00
.I. Slop song.
3:20:01
So you got that.
3:20:04
And this is where we also...
3:20:06
Oh, of course.
3:20:06
I should mention anything would be better than
3:20:08
the Pogues.
3:20:12
People say it's the best Christmas song ever.
3:20:14
I'm like, no.
3:20:15
It stinks.
3:20:16
It stinks.
3:20:17
Well, that's not what it is.
3:20:19
It's a No Agenda Happy New Year song
3:20:21
is what it is.
3:20:22
And it's good.
3:20:23
And we got some MVP with some big,
3:20:26
beautiful ships and scary weather.
3:20:29
It's all slop and it's all good.
3:20:30
You'll love it.
3:20:33
End of show ISOs, which you always choose
3:20:35
here in this very moment.
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This is always the man versus the machine
3:20:39
where John prompts his way to victory and
3:20:42
I just get real people.
3:20:44
So I'm going to play mine first.
3:20:46
Here's the first.
3:20:47
They nailed it.
3:20:50
I like it.
3:20:51
I know you do.
3:20:52
How about this one?
3:20:53
We know what we're doing.
3:20:56
We got the documents.
3:20:58
I like this one too.
3:20:59
Blah, bitty, blah, bitty, blah.
3:21:03
Okay, so I'll delete those two and this
3:21:06
one's still in the running.
3:21:07
They nailed it.
3:21:08
That's in the running.
3:21:09
Yeah, it's not bad.
3:21:10
All right.
3:21:10
What do you got?
3:21:11
I have a real one.
3:21:12
I always put a real one in when
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I can.
3:21:13
I got where, I got, I think this
3:21:16
would be great.
3:21:16
This is the wherever.
3:21:17
Wherever you get your podcasts.
3:21:20
Huh?
3:21:20
No.
3:21:21
It's a perfect ending, no?
3:21:22
No, no, no, no.
3:21:24
Okay, let's go with great.
3:21:26
Great show, again and as usual.
3:21:29
No, no.
3:21:30
You need to come up with better ones.
3:21:32
Okay, let's try this one.
3:21:33
This at least has a message.
3:21:35
Donate.
3:21:36
Well, that was a show to remember.
3:21:39
So, donate.
3:21:42
It's just not grabbing me.
3:21:45
All right, you can win this one.
3:21:47
I will win this one and we'll play
3:21:49
it later after John's tip of the day.
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♪ Great advice for you and me ♪
3:21:55
♪ Just a tip with JCB and sometimes
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Adam.
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♪ Last one, last one of the year.
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Oh, yeah, well, this is the time to
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clean up the mess that these storms are
3:22:08
creating and a lot of people have blackberries.
3:22:14
Blackberries?
3:22:16
Blackberries, you ever heard of any blackberries in
3:22:18
your yard?
3:22:19
A lot of people do.
3:22:21
Yeah, well, okay.
3:22:22
They're invasive.
3:22:23
Well, in Texas, I don't think you can
3:22:24
grow berries.
3:22:25
No.
3:22:26
But much of the country.
3:22:27
We grow shrooms.
3:22:28
You need these gloves.
3:22:29
These are hand-landy, rose-pruning gloves for
3:22:33
men and women.
3:22:35
Long, thorn-proof gardening gloves made out of
3:22:39
pigskin.
3:22:39
They're gauntlets.
3:22:40
Best garden gifts and tools for a gardener.
3:22:43
They're only, they're about 17 bucks.
3:22:44
They have different styles, but they're gauntlets.
3:22:46
These giant gloves that go over your forearms
3:22:50
and they got pigskin.
3:22:51
You can pull stuff out of the ground
3:22:53
that's got thorns and it's good for roses
3:22:56
and specifically blackberries.
3:22:59
Oh, so these go all the way up
3:23:00
to your elbow?
3:23:02
Yeah, pretty much.
3:23:03
Oh, that's good.
3:23:04
You can get all cut up.
3:23:05
Yeah, well, I used to work in the
3:23:07
rose nursery as a kid in Holland.
3:23:10
Well, you, these gloves is what you wanted.
3:23:13
We did, we had bare hands.
3:23:15
Bare hands.
3:23:16
And that sucked.
3:23:17
And our arms were completely scratched from.
3:23:20
Yeah, no, this will keep that from happening.
3:23:22
Yeah, well, I'm not going back.
3:23:23
They're cheap.
3:23:24
I'm a podcaster.
3:23:25
I'm not a rose picker.
3:23:26
I'm a podcaster.
3:23:28
That's an interesting one.
3:23:29
You know, I gave Tina the knife tip
3:23:31
of the day for Christmas.
3:23:33
Yeah.
3:23:33
And as a gag, I gave her the
3:23:35
gloves that you recommended, the chain mail gloves.
3:23:38
The chain mail gloves, yeah.
3:23:39
Yes.
3:23:40
It's not a gag, it's actually a good
3:23:41
idea, but it's a little insulting.
3:23:45
Have you ever seen a lefty cut something
3:23:47
with a big sharp knife?
3:23:48
It makes me cringe to think about a
3:23:51
lefty cutting anything.
3:23:52
There you go, everybody.
3:23:53
It's John's tip of the day.
3:23:54
Find it all at noagendafund.com and tipoftheday
3:23:56
.net.
3:24:03
Well, there it is.
3:24:09
The last show of 2025.
3:24:11
We will be working on your New Year's
3:24:14
Day.
3:24:14
All is quiet on New Year's Day, but
3:24:16
we will be working for you because there
3:24:19
may be peace in Ukraine, closer than ever.
3:24:23
Don Bass demilitarized zone still not worked out.
3:24:27
Yeah, surprise, surprise.
3:24:29
Hey, just to wind up your Christmas joyous
3:24:32
spirit week, Nick the Rat is next with
3:24:35
his Christmas, what does he call this show?
3:24:38
It's the Merry Predictions.
3:24:40
Oh boy.
3:24:41
When the rats are predicting things, it's time
3:24:44
to jump ship.
3:24:45
That's all I know.
3:24:47
So thank you once again for being here.
3:24:49
Trolls, noagendastream.com.
3:24:52
Thank you to our producers.
3:24:54
Thank you to the producers who supported us
3:24:56
financially.
3:24:57
It is all highly appreciated.
3:24:59
Coming to you from the heart of the
3:25:00
Texas Hill Country where it's still kind of
3:25:02
Christmassy.
3:25:03
It's Fredericksburg, Texas in the morning, everybody.
3:25:06
I'm Adam Curry.
3:25:07
And from Northern Silicon Valley where I remain,
3:25:09
I'm John C.
3:25:10
Dvorak.
3:25:11
Baron Daron O'Neill coming up in the
3:25:13
end of show mixes and two back to
3:25:15
backs from MVP.
3:25:16
We'll be back on Thursday.
3:25:17
Please join us.
3:25:18
And as always, remember us at noagendadonations.com.
3:25:22
Until then, adios, mofos, hui, hui, and such.
3:25:29
Hit it!
3:25:29
♪ Can you believe it's true, we've
3:25:39
made it through anew ♪ ♪ Yes, the
3:25:44
continents are changing and the rifts
3:25:58
to open the lathe ♪ ♪ It's high,
3:26:05
oh, it's simple, go
3:26:26
in, find out your
3:26:44
place ♪ ♪ A valley from high, oh,
3:26:45
it's simple, it's the day, it's the night
3:27:05
♪ ♪ It's
3:27:15
the no agenda ♪
3:27:28
Weather emergencies can strike like a bolt from
3:27:31
the blue.
3:27:33
Storms, floods, hurricanes, tornadoes.
3:27:37
Is your family safe?
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Is it?
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Before you venture outdoors, tune into Big News
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Weather Central now with Live in Fear Doppler.
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Only Live in Fear Doppler warns you of
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storm conditions that could snap telephone poles like
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bodies like chopsticks through boiled potatoes.
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Mom, it's starting to rain.
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Aaaah!
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The blueprints came in gold leaf, the rivets
3:28:15
made of chrome, We're building something massive right
3:28:20
here at U.S. Home.
3:28:22
With marble on the gun deck and a
3:28:26
fountain in the rear, We're sailing to Venezuela,
3:28:31
just to make them disappear.
3:28:34
It's got the tallest towers.
3:28:38
It's got the loudest horn.
3:28:40
The greatest piece of hardware that was ever
3:28:44
naval born.
3:28:46
Oh, the Tron class is coming, cutting through
3:28:51
the blue.
3:28:51
With a thousand foot antenna, and a penthouse
3:28:56
for the crew.
3:28:58
If a boat gets in a crisis, we're
3:29:05
winning in the tropics.
3:29:12
It's the baddest, it's the gold plated fleet.
3:29:17
Turning every little harbor into Wall Street.
3:29:25
Total sea dominance Trump is very classy.
3:29:29
Need a new South America.
3:29:33
I'm feeling sassy.
3:29:41
The best podcast in the universe.
3:29:46
Adios, mofo.
3:29:47
Dvorak.org slash N-A-O They nailed
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it.