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The woman has three arms.
Adam Curry, John C.
Devorah.
It's Thursday, January 1st, 2026.
This is your award-winning Give Our Nation
Media Assassination Episode 1830.
This is no agenda.
Starting four more years and broadcasting live from
the heart of the Texas Hill Country here
in FEMA Region Number 6 in the morning,
everybody.
I'm Adam Curry.
And from Northern Silicon Valley, we congratulate New
York City on having a new mayor.
I'm John C.
Devorah.
2026, whoo!
It's awesome, awesome!
Is it just me, or was this one
of the quietest transitions we've ever had?
And with that, I mean, I got very
few texts this year.
I got one.
Fireworks seemed a lot, a lot more muted.
Oh, we were rained out.
We had, it was raining here.
It's raining as we speak.
Yeah.
Which is the first time I can ever
remember it raining on January 1st in the
Bay Area.
And so it's raining.
So there's the fireworks there.
Yeah, they had them.
You could hear booms, but there was no,
you couldn't see anything.
No, it was here in Fredericksburg, Texas, very,
very muted.
Not a lot of people shooting stuff off.
Television was extraordinarily boring this year.
Like the same old dumb stuff they do.
No one has any new ideas for what
to do on New Year's on television.
It seemed like the most exciting thing was
on X, people saying, hey, Grok, put a
bikini on her.
I missed that one.
Oh, goodness.
You haven't seen that?
No.
Oh, that's because...
You haven't seen Fat JD.
No, so there's this thing now is you
post, if someone posts a picture of themself,
a woman, and then you do at Grok,
put a bikini on her.
And then the next picture is that same
woman with the bikini.
Oh, that's a great feature.
It just goes on and on.
You don't have to do it in your
own brain anymore.
Too lazy.
But then they're putting bikinis on dogs.
Hey, Grok, show me the war criminal.
There's Netanyahu, all of this stuff.
It's well worth the $1.3 trillion.
I think it's perfect.
We're being entertained.
Back to your thesis about things being slow,
I have to say, this morning, they were
doing it.
They have this question and answer thing on
one of the news stations.
And they were going, they had all these
guys around the round table saying, are New
Year's parties over?
I think so.
And they were all, and everyone was saying,
yeah, well, you know, you don't have them
all the time.
And then they said, and then they had,
they brought up the question.
What about kissing at New Year's?
Oh, I don't know.
It doesn't seem that important to me.
What's the point?
Dude, we were in bed at 1030.
I got a show tomorrow.
I had time for this nonsense.
I'll kiss you now.
Good night, baby.
I got to get up early.
Yeah.
You know, I think the last real good
New Year's Eve party I attended, well, there
were two.
1987, I was just new at MTV.
And they said, hey, you're going to do
our live coverage.
I'm like, oh, that sounds cool.
And so they put me in my three
foot hair, literally on Times Square with one
bodyguard.
And the camera was up on one time
guard.
Oh, yeah.
Well, there were, I mean, in 87, 86,
87, 87, I'm not sure.
It wasn't, you know, they weren't running around
like, oh, ISIS might be getting you.
No, people just showed up and they were
hanging out and there weren't, you know, it
was a big black dude.
It was a white dude.
White dude.
But he had a big black gun, if
that helped.
And, you know, and so I had the
camera up on one time square and you
couldn't really hear anything.
But that was one.
But the real New Year's Eve party, I
think was 1990.
No, 89.
I'm sorry.
And it was.
You didn't have a year 2000 party.
That's the big one, 99.
I was, I was in, I was back
in Holland for that New Year's, which was
insane because the Dutch, they just love their
fireworks.
They even though it's outlawed in Amsterdam, they
everyone loves their fireworks.
There's videos online of entire streets with burnt
out cars.
I'm not kidding.
And of course this happened.
A blaze so great, there was no saving
the church tower.
In the middle of the night, as Amsterdam's
residents were ringing in the new year, a
major fire broke out in the historic Vondelkerk
church.
Firefighters tried to save the over 150 year
old structure, but they could not enter.
The risk that the church would collapse was
too great.
As they danced it with water from hoses,
authorities closed down the streets around the central
Amsterdam monument.
And local media said that nearby homes were
evacuated because of the burning debris.
An alert was issued about heavy smoke and
officials declared a regional emergency.
It really is horrific.
I've just been watching.
This is the mayor.
It's the mayor of Amsterdam.
Almost violently large.
The church is very close to many houses.
So apart from the loss of a magnificent
monument, for all people living nearby, it's really
scary.
Built in 1872, the church is in the
center of Amsterdam and just a short walk
from the popular Van Gogh museum.
The cause of the fire is still unknown.
As investigators looking for whether the used fireworks
were involved or not.
Or not.
Fireworks or not.
This is a travesty.
Yeah, they're obviously involved.
This is a travesty though.
This church, man, it's a beautiful church.
It's completely destroyed.
Was, yes.
It looked a lot like the Notre Dame
fire, where the whole, you know, the steeple,
everything, the spire, I think you call it,
completely on fire.
And then the roof collapsing.
It looks bad.
But I think that's very typical of Holland.
You know, everyone's just so, what's the word
I'm looking for?
Not depressed, but they're just apathetic.
They're like, they don't care.
Like, eh, life sucks.
This is it.
Russia's going to kill us.
Whatever.
We give up.
And I think that's also- Let's take
our bikes.
Hey, Vladimir, take my bike.
Yeah, and I think that's kind of what's
happening with Gen Z in the Zummerwaffen.
I have a feeling that they're also like,
eh, you know, everything sucks.
It's no good.
Who cares?
Gen Zs are in, out in force, not
being covered.
I have no clips.
I don't know what to do about it
because of the lack of clips in Iran.
Now, interesting you bring that up.
So, of course, we see what's happening in
Iran.
And I can play it.
But no, we don't see what's happening.
You should tell people what's happening.
It's just, it's not being talked about or
discovered.
I mean, there's a few bloggers covering it.
I do have a, let's see.
I have a- Yes, oh, good.
Yeah, I got a couple of clips.
So I'll tell you upfront, right away, I'm
like, oh, it's kicking off in Iran.
So I go to YouTube and I look
for Iran Gen Z.
And there's hundreds, hundreds of videos in Farsi.
And they all go like this.
Iran Gen Z protest live update.
Farsi, Farsi, Gen Z, Farsi, Farsi, Khamenei, Farsi,
Farsi, Tehran university protest.
And they're all from, you know, like these
outfits, like, let me see, News Nation, but
it's not the News Nation you think it
is.
I think they're pretty much all AI generated.
It seems to me that whatever is happening,
and I do have an interesting clip where
that's brought up.
It seems like the Gen Z opp is
trying to take credit for it or try
and move that in.
Hey, it's the Gen Zs that are doing
this.
But it's not working because there's just, it's
not being reported that way.
Here's, let me see, what is this one?
In the alleyways of Tehran's Grand Bazaar.
Oh yeah, this is one thing I found.
In the alleyways of Tehran's Grand Bazaar, chants
of don't be afraid, don't be afraid, we're
all together.
And they're not afraid.
For four days in a row, Iranians have
taken to the streets.
Oh no, this thing is full of Nat
Pops.
Streets, some clash with the riot police.
Anger sparked by an economy in turmoil and
soaring living costs.
I should actually point out that the only
clips I could get were from British outfits,
including BBC.
This is from Channel 4.
In the last year, Iran's currency has lost
nearly half of its value against the US
dollar.
Inflation has seen food prices rise by 72%.
According to one Tehran resident, whose identity we
are protecting, everyday items are becoming unaffordable.
Families who once belonged to the middle class
are now worried about paying their rent.
In the past, people worried about affording meat
and fruit.
Now they are struggling to buy basic items
like rice and eggs.
In my view, people are truly exhausted.
They've reached their breaking point.
They no longer want this regime and are
demanding change.
The protests soon spread outside the capital with
similar scenes taking place in Isfahan, Shiraz in
the south and Mashhad in the northeast.
In the city of Farsa, a group of
people are seen trying to break into a
government building.
And no major crackdown from the government yet.
Iran's leaders avoiding the heavy police response seen
in previous protests.
Instead, saying they're open to dialogue, offering to
listen to the demands of protesters.
The government will listen patiently, even if there
are harsh voices, because we believe that our
people are patient enough.
The government's job is to hear the voices
and help them reach a common understanding to
solve the problems that exist in society.
There's no calm outside universities.
Students are now joining the demonstrations.
So students are joining the demonstrations.
I just don't think it's our classic Gen
Z psy-op.
But what was interesting, the second part of
this report.
Well, by the way, which may be confirmed
by the fact that it's not getting any
coverage whatsoever.
Correct.
Here is the Middle East director of Chatham
House, who they bring in.
Oh, there you go.
Exactly.
So let's hear what she has to say.
I don't think that the regime itself is
in a moment of imminent danger, really because
the Islamic Republic of Iran, as we have
witnessed over many years of protests, is institutionalized
and has a bureaucracy that is willing to
remain united and push back against dissent in
the country.
But what the system is looking to avoid
is a long scale, protracted standoff.
Iran's leadership knows the quickest way to ease
pressure is lifting U.S. sanctions.
But with President Donald Trump this week threatening
to, quote, knock the hell out of Iran
if it rebuilt its missile program, the diplomatic
mood is far from positive.
All right.
So we did get one little viral moment,
just a very brief one, which they're trying
to push.
An image that quickly went viral in Iran.
A man sits down in the middle of
the street in silent protest, facing him lines
of Iranian security personnel on motorbikes.
So like a Tiananmen Square type deal is
what this guy's doing, you know, kneeling, kneeling.
You might as well do it that way.
And here's the BBC report.
Protests are continuing for a third day in
Iran against rising prices and an increase in
the price of foreign currency.
Students from several universities have joined the demonstrations,
which was started on Sunday by shopkeepers and
market stall holders.
Tehran province has been the center of the
protests.
Parts of Tehran markets are also closed.
David Bamford reports.
Sounds a bit like an Arab Spring thing.
Oh, yeah.
Bread is expensive.
Also, they got that angle, but they also
have not mentioned, which a lot of these
bloggers have talked about, that they ran out
of water.
They've been out of water for a couple
of months because of a drought and just
mismanagement.
Ostensibly, these are protests about food price increases
of up to 70% year on year
and soaring inflation.
The security forces have deployed heavily, but videos
show them pulling back amid the public anger.
State media say Iran's president, Massoud Pazashkian, urged
his own government to listen to what he
called the legitimate demands of the protesters and
to make reforms.
Some in the crowd can be heard.
I get the kick out of the guy
supposedly running the country, saying the government should
listen.
He is the government, isn't he?
No, I guess not.
So it's a fake.
Yeah.
State media say Iran's president, Massoud Pazashkian, urged
his own government to listen to what he
called the legitimate demands of the protesters and
to make reforms.
Some in the crowd can be heard shouting
political slogans, calling for the overthrow of the
Islamic Republic.
Slogans that can be heard include death to
the dictator, targeting Supreme Leader Khamenei, the real
power in Iran.
And this is the final battle Paklavi will
return, a reference to the family of the
ruling shah of Iran ousted in the late
1970s.
That's the kid in London, isn't it?
Yeah.
Yeah, and they keep, yeah, there's a number
of protests.
Again, we don't know if this is AI
or if it's real, but where there's big
crowds chanting his name.
Here's, I did get one U.S. report.
This is CNN.
Iran backed the news for a couple of
reasons.
Its government said today it would seek a
dialogue with protest leaders after demonstrations in Tehran
and other cities were surged in inflation.
Do you think this poses a danger to
the government there?
I think Tehran, as we all know, it's
a theocratic autocracy.
And like a lot of autocracies, as I
say, I used to live in Africa.
I used to say in Africa, when the
elephants fight, the grass gets trampled.
Oh, there's a new one.
She had never heard that before.
This is the great philosopher they have on
CNN.
Say in Africa, when the elephants fight-
What does Africa have to do with Iran?
I mean, this is odd.
As I say, I used to live in
Africa.
I used to say in Africa, when the
elephants fight, the grass gets trampled.
And Iran, the grass is being trampled.
And who is fighting?
It's Tehran versus the rest of the folks
in the region and the U.S. And
they've been hit by inflation.
They've been hit by all- Sean McFate.
Economic sanctions, all because Israel, I'm sorry, all
because Iran- What?
Truth just came out.
Hold on a second.
And they've been hit by inflation.
They've been hit by all sorts of economic
sanctions, all because Israel, I'm sorry, all because
Iran doesn't want to give up its nuclear
weapons program.
Oh, really?
That's what it is?
Oh, that's what it- Oh, brother, this
is CNN at its best.
They have no water for three months, but
it's because of the nukes, sure.
And so this is always a threat to
Tehran.
But Tehran usually just squeezes down autocracies and
pressures them away.
And that's probably what's going to happen again.
But the other problem is, is that Iran
has also declared war, basically, on Israel and
others as we speak.
And we'll see where that goes.
It's a tough, frightening talk from a volatile
region.
Frightening talk from a volatile region.
You can't ignore the coincidence, of course, of
Netanyahu showing up at Mar-a-Lago and
telling Trump, they're thinking of moving their nukes.
It feels coordinated, but they don't have a
message yet.
Or they didn't plan the message.
Or maybe, maybe it's actually real.
I think it might be.
It feels like it because no one is
doing the messaging right.
There's so many things- They've been having
enough coordinated bullcrap riots and color revolutions that
somebody may have a clue and have figured
it out.
You just need one leader.
And it's possible.
And I told you, we talked months ago
that that guy, the kid who's been in
exile in London, he appears to be the
one they want now.
Or were they saying, let's go Brandon?
I'm not sure what they were yelling.
Could it be both?
Yeah.
It's hard to know.
I got to call Lex.
I got to ask him.
It's hard.
Why is it hard to know?
Because nobody's covering it.
Where's the boots on the ground from the
news media?
CNN has some guy giving us aphorisms from
Africa, you know, sitting in the studio.
Why don't you go out there and do
some, put your feet on the ground and
go float around and find out what's going
on.
Which brings- News media.
You're getting paid money to do that.
You have huge budgets.
Which brings me to the New Year's, New
Year's Day message from CBS Evening News, Tony
DeCouple.
DeCouple.
Is that his name?
Oh, you recorded it?
Yes, of course I did.
This is unbelievable.
Now, this has to be Barry Weiss in
the background, I presume.
But basically, we've been screwing you over for
50 years with our CBS Evening News.
Yeah, you want to say something?
Well, a couple of things.
It's Barry, it might be just, it might
be, by the way.
Well, Barry Weiss would be the representative.
But Barry Weiss might have gone in there
and pushed for something like this.
And I think this may be a satire.
Well, I mean, I thought it was a
satire, but I looked at all- No,
I mean, no, it's not a, like a
fake video that's turned into a satire.
But I'm saying, literally by DeCouple or whatever
his name is, actually going over the top
so far that it's like laughable.
So they're laughing- On purpose.
They're laughing in the newsroom.
Look at these suckers.
Yeah, we'll tell them.
I'm just considering it.
It's, well, let's analyze.
Because it's out of control.
It's so stupid to do something like this.
Well, the Curry Dvorak Consulting Group would have
never advised this, that's for sure.
That's for sure.
A lot has changed since the first person
sat in this chair.
But for me, the biggest difference is people
do not trust us like they used to.
And it's not just us.
It's all of legacy media.
Yeah, for 18 years, dude.
Because I've been hearing about it from just
about everybody for more than 20 years as
I've traveled America on this assignment or that.
My mom's neighbors in West Virginia- I
love where he starts right away.
My mom doesn't like it.
My mom's neighbor.
Mom complained to me, okay.
For more than 20 years as I've traveled
America on this assignment or that.
My mom's neighbors in West Virginia, my own
neighbors in New York City.
Thousands and thousands of conversations in between.
Sometimes people want to talk to me about
our coverage of NAFTA or the Iraq war.
Huh?
What?
How old are those people?
Hey, man.
You know, maybe some people should realize what
we're listening to here.
I don't think we gave it enough background.
This is Tony DeCouple, the guy who's taking
over CBS nightly news.
And this is- Evening news.
Evening news.
Evening.
Evening.
Yeah, well.
He's taking over the news slot.
He's bumped that, you know, whoever was there
before got bumped.
Nora was there for a while.
And this is kind of a pre-mea
culpa.
Apologizing for all the screw-ups they had
in the past.
I'm the new guy.
We're going to do it differently.
This kind of thing.
And it's just awkward.
But in case anybody wonders what we're listening
to.
Other times it's all about Hillary Clinton's emails
or Russiagate.
Or more recently, COVID lockdowns, Hunter Biden's laptop,
or the president's fitness for office.
I think they should literally do a story
on each of these things, starting today, and
give us the truth.
That would be a good follow-up.
Somehow I doubt that's in the works.
No, I don't think so.
The point is, on too many stories, the
press has missed the story.
Yeah, missed the story, like it was a
scam, everything's fake and gay, and you guys
are leading it.
Because we've taken into account the perspective of
advocates and not the average American.
Really?
This is such an admission.
We've taken the account of advocates.
Yeah, this is really poor form.
Yeah, basically saying, we've worked for other people.
Or we put too much weight in the
analysis of academics or elites, and not enough
on you.
Yes, the dummies.
The plebs.
I have been you.
I have felt this way too.
I am you.
CBS News, I am you.
I felt like what I was seeing-
I wouldn't be surprised to see that as
a catchphrase.
Well, we'll give it to them.
CBS News, I, and that little I logo,
I am you.
And I know this because at certain points,
I have been you.
I have felt this way too.
I felt like what I was seeing and
hearing on the news didn't reflect what I
was seeing and hearing in my own life.
And that the most urgent questions simply weren't
being asked.
So here's my promise to you, today and
every time you see me in this chair.
I will be wearing pants.
You come first.
Not advertisers, not politicians, not corporate interests.
And yes, that does include the corporate owners
of CBS.
Yeah, oh yeah, which is now Allison.
Yeah, I report for you, which means I
tell you what I know.
Okay.
When I know it.
Okay.
And how I know it.
Oh.
And when I get it wrong.
I know, I know it in my knower.
I'll tell you that too.
It also means I'm going to talk to
everybody and hold everyone in public life to
the very same standard.
After all, I became a journalist.
He'll tell you everything he knows.
He's holding them to account.
This guy, by the way, was on the
morning.
This guy's on the morning show.
He was a morning guy and he was
the dumbest of the group.
He was always saying stupid stuff, asking dumb
questions.
He's just, I don't want to just demean
the guy, but he's a dummy.
That's good.
The dummy's almost done.
It also means I'm going to talk to
everybody and hold everyone in public life to
the very same standard.
After all, I became a journalist to talk
to people.
Oh, I love talking to people about what
works in this country, what doesn't.
Is that why you become a journalist?
To talk to people?
I've never heard that being the reason to
become a journalist.
Start a podcast.
Become a journalist to document reality.
Become a podcaster, man.
You can talk to anybody.
And not only what should change, but the
good ideas that should never change.
I think telling the truth is one of
them.
I'm Tony DeCopol, the anchor of the CBS
Evening News.
Hold me to it.
You bet.
Hold me to it.
CBS, hold me to it.
Yeah, that's good.
Well, in this honesty vein of our buddy
here.
It's so funny.
Yeah, it's great.
At first, I'm like, this is fake.
This has to be fake.
This can't be real.
And so you've helped me to account, people.
You've helped me to account.
I have stolen valor on my heart.
I feel horrible.
No, it's the AI that stole the valor.
And you just stole from AI.
Here is the clip of the day on
the last episode last year.
So it doesn't really count as last year.
Of Yanis Varoufakis was AI.
And he discussed it recently on UnHerd.
And it was rather an interesting two clip
conversation.
I received a message, some WhatsApp message from
a very esteemed colleague.
Yes, the Kuri Dvorak podcast.
They said, hey, is this you?
A person whose opinion I value a lot.
Oh, yes.
He was congratulating me over a YouTube video
of mine.
And he had the link in there.
And so this was spot on, Yanis.
Really very good analysis.
It wasn't the one you showed just now.
So I clicked on the link to remind
myself of what it is that I had
said, which my colleague liked.
And it was two minutes into the video
that I realized it wasn't me.
That's two minutes is an eternity.
So if the guy himself didn't realize it
for two minutes, that's concerning.
Yeah, you can't take too much blame, even
though I rebuke and denounce and renounce the
clip of the day.
Denounce and renounce.
And listen to how he actually figured it
out.
When you have somebody saying things you never
said, but which you could have said, the
reason why I caught on to this was
because you see this blue shirt?
Well, I was wearing it in that video.
But that video was set in my office
in Athens.
Here I'm talking to you from my island
home.
And this shirt has never left.
By the way, remind me to use that
line.
Today, I'm talking to you from my island
home.
I'm not in my regular home.
My island home.
It was this juxtaposition of my blue shirt
from one house to the other that alerted
me to the fact that it wasn't me.
And then, of course, I started digging into
it.
And it turns out that the words that
you just heard, I have never spoken.
But alas, they are words that I could
have spoken.
The analysis is not far off mine.
And there have been videos that I've watched
of myself where I would articulate an argument
in ways that I don't disagree with that.
Maybe I would have said it.
But then, and this is a misinterpreted part.
I'm sure you can understand it.
I'm sure our audience can understand it.
And then suddenly, a sentence would be inserted
in my soliloquy that I would never have
said.
And that is where the defamatory part starts.
That's when I blew my top.
And I started writing to Google and to
Meta and Instagram and so on.
I blew my top.
He blew his top.
I blew my top.
Top, top, top, I'm blown.
The funnier part of the story is when
he tried to do something about it.
Which brings us to the whole monetization system
that Big Tech has imposed upon an unsuspecting
world.
Because, you know, as you can imagine, the
first thing I did when I came across
these fake videos was to write to Google
and to Meta and to these people.
It took days before I got a response.
The response was interestingly, of course, AI generated.
Then I insisted on talking to a real
person.
I don't know whether they succeeded.
Maybe they referred me to a more realistic
version of AI who wrote a more human
-like letter.
In the end, it took eight days, nine
days after my first form that I filled
and I submitted, illustrating and demonstrating and proving
that these are deepfake versions of me.
And they brought one channel down.
And then within seconds, the same material re
-emerged in a different channel.
Under a different name, but the same videos.
And I realized within two weeks that this
was a losing game.
He's given up.
He's just given up on it.
You can't even talk to a real person
at Google about this.
This is amazing.
It's an amazing time we live in.
I'll tell you that.
Yeah, this is a problem.
I think this is more of a problem
than we like to think.
Oh, it's a huge problem.
But yeah, it's the model, obviously.
It's the monetization model.
I expect that there'll be moments over the
next year where we'll be suckered into...
Many times.
More than once.
Yeah, I'm sure it will.
Playing a clip from someone who is, it's
a perfect clip.
Yeah.
And it's not done in such a way
that it gives itself away as being a
fake.
And it'll be a good clip, but it'll
be fake.
It won't be the guy.
I mean, this is what happened.
And it's unfortunate, but it's just going to
happen.
The funny thing is that the clip that
we played was him talking about Russia's retaliation
against the freezing, the permanent freezing of the
Russian assets at Euroclear and other banks in
the EU.
And so I went and said, well, did
this actually happen or not?
Was this just a report that they used
him?
And it turns out, yes, Russia nationalized a
whole bunch of EU companies, but they did
it a year ago, which we didn't even
hear about.
Including Carlsberg, Danone, Fortum, Uniper.
I mean, so...
And totaling even more than the fake AI
clip said, this all happened.
Yeah, this seems to me to be the
Russians.
They can do AI as well as...
I mean, they can use the same tools
we have and they have smart people and
they have to be beside...
Putin's people have to be beside themselves with,
how come this...
We're going to...
OK, you guys are going to do that.
We're going to do this.
And nobody reports it.
And so they say, well, nobody's reporting on
what we're up to.
We're not doing it right.
Then we'll do this.
Then we'll do that.
Then we'll do this.
What are we going to do to get...
And so after a year, they say, what
can we do to get this information out?
There's just nobody will pick it up.
Let's do a fake video with this guy
because they love him and just put it
out there and just soak the market with
it and let the virus take it over.
And that's what they did.
I'm absolutely convinced that this is Russian intelligence.
And make sure those dopes at the No
Agenda show see it.
Send a copy to Curry, that guy.
He's a sucker for the Ruskies.
Yeah.
Which kind of brings into question this whole
drone attack on Putin's home.
Yeah, I have a couple...
I have a clip on that, but...
I have an intro overview clip of that.
Do you want to...
Yeah, yeah.
I'll play that and then you do whatever
you want.
From a snowy Moscow this morning, the Kremlin
keeping up its latest flurry of accusations against
Ukraine.
The Kiev was trying to undermine progress towards
a peace deal by launching a drone attack
on one of Vladimir Putin's residences.
This is Channel 4 again.
Ukraine has ridiculed the claims, but Russia nonetheless
promising to toughen its stance.
That military today releasing images of what it
said were its Oreshnik hypersonic nuclear-capable missiles
being deployed in Belarus.
Russia claims Ukraine launched 91 drones in a
mass attack on the Putin residence.
They would have had to fly more than
400 miles through heavily defended airspace en route
to the target, a sprawling complex on the
northeastern shore of Lake Valdai.
It's self-guarded by 12 nearby air defence
batteries.
There are no local reports of any explosions.
I learned about it from President Putin today.
I was very angry about it.
President Trump beating the Israeli prime minister yesterday
challenged on whether US intelligence had any evidence
it had happened.
You're saying maybe the attack didn't take place.
It's possible.
I guess, but President Putin told me this
morning it did.
As for the timing of this, I mean,
politically, it wouldn't be a very judicious moment
to strike in this way.
No, I mean, for all sorts of reasons.
Firstly, there is...
This is some dude from the University College
of London.
An informal etiquette, shall we say, that you
don't go after the other side's leaders or
else you face that same threat yourself.
Secondly, it would risk doing away with all
of the goodwill generated by Zelensky's trip to
Florida.
And thirdly, the problem is Zelensky did in
his Christmas address pretty openly wish for Putin's
death.
And so in that context, again, this would
look a little bit too on the nose.
So let's look at the three options.
Well, let's listen to...
By the way, that was the guy with
the British accent doing his reporting.
Yes.
Can I say what I was going to
say?
So here are the options.
It's the pauses.
That was my pregnant pause.
Your pregnant pause, yeah.
Which, by the way, does cut out some
Bluetooth headsets.
I'm sorry.
When we have a pause, there's still some
Bluetooth headsets out there that see zero bytes
and think, oh, the podcast's over and it
disconnects.
What?
Yeah, yeah.
This is a recurring problem.
Because...
That's idiotic.
Well, because of the noise gate, there is
zero.
I mean, it's not like a little bit.
It's just there's zero noise and the Bluetooth
thinks, oh, it's quiet, so I'll just disconnect.
Oh, heaven forbid we actually have a production
that produces quiet that is actually quiet.
Quiet time.
As opposed to a buzzing sound or whatever
the rest of it is.
Well, the solution, of course, is just to
listen to us at 10x and you'll be
fine.
So the options are, one, Ukraine did this.
B, it was a false flag by Russia.
Or C, which I think is more likely
is that something, maybe not 91 drones, but
something was lit up by the North Sea
Nexus to...
Which is where my clips go.
To interrupt the negotiations between...
Which is where my clips go.
Well, I heard you, so I'm ready for
your clips.
Well, first, just as the intro clip, to
counter your intro clip, I have one from
NTD that we can play before I play
the clips of the Nexus clips.
Okay.
Two days after an alleged attack on Russian
President Vladimir Putin, Moscow is now releasing video
footage for the first time.
According to the Kremlin, Ukraine launched over 90
drones at Putin's residence on Monday overnight.
After international calls for evidence to back up
the claim, Russia released this video on Wednesday
showing one drone in a dark forest.
Neither the location nor the date of the
video could be independently verified.
Zelensky denies the claims of an attack, saying
Russia is lying to undermine the peace process
which had been developing fast before the alleged
attack.
Also on Wednesday, President Trump shared a New
York Post article which states that the drone
strike likely never happened.
A day earlier, the U.S. ambassador to
NATO also cast doubt on the accusation that
Ukraine attacked Putin's residence.
He said it's unclear whether the attack actually
happened.
The ambassador added that he wants to see
U.S. intelligence on the incident.
Meanwhile, the U.S. continues working on a
possible peace deal, speaking with Ukrainian and European
officials.
Special Envoy Steve Witkoff says they, quote, focused
on how to move the discussions forward in
a practical way on behalf of President Trump's
peace process.
Okay, well, I think option C is still
the most viable, that the North Sea nexus
was fiddling about to disrupt these peace talks
because they are warmongers and they want war.
They are.
They just want war.
They want their children to die.
Yes, they do.
Like, oh, you're going to go into the
army now, son.
Yeah.
Hey, child sacrifice is powerful aphrodisiac.
So, yeah, yeah.
Well, here is the, this is a woman
that showed up on, uh, of this Prometheus
project.
Hold on, hold on.
You know that I introduced them to the
podcast three months ago.
Yeah.
Okay.
Well, here she is giving her spiel and
which makes, by the way, what you just
said makes it sound as though you stole
the nexus idea from them.
No, I just, no.
Let me just remind you.
I played the clips from Tom Luongo from
Gold Goats and Guns.
I played three clips from the LaRouche ladies,
which is their former LaRouche ladies.
And I said the only thing they're doing
wrong is they're calling it the Dutch Anglo,
the Dutch Anglo system.
And that's when, on that very podcast, I
said, I'm calling it the North Sea Nexus.
So I give them full credit.
So she, this woman who is another one
who I think is a LaRouche because Barbara
Kokinda?
Yeah.
Or Susan Kokinda.
I'm sorry.
The other one's Barbara.
I don't know one of the Kokindas.
They're both LaRouche ladies.
Okay, they were LaRouche.
Maybe you should explain who LaRouche was.
Lyndon LaRouche.
You said it like Mark Levin.
Slowly I turn.
Mark Levin.
Lyndon LaRouche.
Lyndon LaRouche was this guy with this unbelievably
affectatious delivery of, I wish I could do
his voice.
But he was a, he is in, he's
in a conspiracy category all his own.
No, this is before I was in the
game.
He's very singular and people should look him
up because it's very compelling.
It's like David Icke without the reptilian stuff.
But it's close to it.
But it's this complex system how the world
works that is, it makes some sort of
sense once they hypnotize you into believing it.
This woman has the, she has those elements
but at the same time this is closer
to what your thesis is based on.
Except she kind of takes the nexus and
instead of making it a nexus it's mostly
just the British monarchy.
And, but it falls in line with what
we're thinking as opposed to what the mainstream
podcasting verse is thinking.
Because it's all Israel.
Israel, Israel, Israel.
The Jews.
Israel, Israel, Israel, Israel.
Just asking questions.
So it's, so this is, so it has,
it's fun.
And I have a bunch of these, they're,
one of them is long but the rest
of them are pretty short.
I've heard discussing this and it brings, it
shows that somebody sent this clip earlier this
morning even though I picked it up yesterday.
But they sent it and said, this is
proof that Adam is right about the, it's
no proof.
There's no proof in here.
And yes it is.
It's proof I was right.
There's no proof.
This is all a thesis.
And it's, and it's, it's stretched a bit
because there's some moments where she's adding to
it.
But the fact that she's got clips from
the, from the House of Lords and they're
all concerned about.
Oh, I've seen this one.
Yeah, this is good.
This is good.
This is good.
And the House of Lords is all bent
out of shape.
I'm sorry, play the clip.
I'll stop talking.
Yes, this is indeed Susan Kokinda.
National security strategy is a mortal threat to
the British empire.
And we're going to activate all of our
networks in the United States to try and
stop it.
They're saying this because they're terrified.
But if you listen to the noise in
Washington and in social media, you'd think Trump
was the one losing control.
Because in the last few days after the
president met with Zelensky and Netanyahu, the political
world has exploded.
Now, if you listen to Mike Pompeo and
the neocons, Trump sold out to Putin.
If you listen to the anti-war crowd,
he sold out to Zelensky.
And what about Israel?
Follow the MAGA wars or Marjorie Taylor Greene.
You're being told he surrendered to Israel.
Or can we just do America?
They're all wrong.
What you just witnessed wasn't a sellout.
It was a takeover.
It was the first live fire test of
the very strategy the British are trying to
kill.
Trump hasn't surrendered.
He signed the do not resuscitate order for
the British post-war world.
And that's why they're not celebrating in London
or Brussels.
I like the writing.
The writing is good.
The do not resuscitate.
That's mature writing.
They realized the special relationship, their ability to
manipulate American power for their wars is over.
As long as Donald Trump is calling the
shots.
I'm Susan Kokenda.
I became politically active way back in 1968.
Whoa.
Campaigning for Robert F.
How old is she?
She looks like my age.
Yeah.
She's a septuagenarian for sure.
She has a.
She's got to be.
And I was the same as her.
I can parallel it because I was a
Kennedy guy.
You were a Democrat.
You were a liberal.
I was a Democrat.
I was all for Robert F.
Kennedy.
And then I went to.
Then I was for George McGovern and that
was the worst candidate they've ever featured.
He went to Berkeley to give a lecture.
I went to and talked to him.
I got to meet him.
And did you get his autograph?
The nicest guy in the world.
What?
Did you get his autograph?
You know, I'm looking back on my life.
Oh, wow.
And I'm looking back on my life.
Dire.
Thinking of the autograph.
Autographs I missed.
I could have retired.
I could have retired on Stan Lee alone.
Stan Lee shows up at tech TV.
And he I'm chatting with him.
Stuart Stanley.
No one knows who Stan Lee is.
Come on.
Stan Lee is a Marvel Comics guy.
Everybody.
Boomers.
Everybody knows who Stan Lee is.
And so I finally brought 10 comic books.
And he had him sign 10 comic books.
Stanley Stanley.
There was auctioning those for $10,000 a
pop.
Wow.
You'd retire for a whole year.
Awesome.
Well, I could retire for a few months,
but I'm just saying that's just one of
many guys.
I dropped the ball on getting an autograph.
And you are the proto archivist.
And yet you drop the ball on the
autographs.
That's interesting.
It's pathetic.
I became politically active way back in 1968.
Campaigning for Robert F.
Kennedy, Sr. In California when he was assassinated
for decades.
My colleagues at Promethean Action and I have
been in the real fight.
So take it from a political veteran.
If enough of you understand what Trump is
doing, we're going to celebrate the 250th anniversary
of our independence.
In victory.
In 2026 by finishing the job.
So I just as a little aside about
the Promethean Action.
Ever since I introduced it to the show
and we started with the North Sea Nexus.
At least twice, sometimes five times a day.
Someone will send me a link.
They do three videos a week.
Someone will send me a link and say,
here's proof you were right.
This is it.
Proof.
So what I'm happy about is that they're
getting traction because they are on this day
and night.
They do a live stream for like five
hours on Thursdays.
Oh, good.
Yeah.
So I'm happy that they're getting traction with
this.
We got other things to do.
Like Iran.
Whatever.
Like it's like.
There's things.
There's other things besides.
Not much.
It's all connected.
It's all connected.
It might be connected, but it's like.
There's a lot of work to do besides
just our heartburn.
We got TikTok videos to play.
Come on.
I do have a couple.
I know you do.
I know you do.
And they're gems.
But anyway, let's continue with the North Sea
Nexus.
The 2025 National Security Strategy.
And this week, Trump used it to clear
the board.
So let's start with Russia and Ukraine.
The British and the EU sent Zelensky to
Mar-a-Lago with a mission.
Did you basically cut up the whole 15
minute report?
No, in fact, it didn't even start at
the beginning.
Oh, OK.
Demand open-ended.
The problem is she.
Her problem is a couple of things with
the 15 minute.
I got about.
I got a lot of minutes, but not
the whole thing.
The problem is she repeats herself two or
three times.
And she also then she goes into a
sales pitch for the Promethean, whatever the hell
it's called.
Promethean Action and their book, How the British
Kill Our Presidents.
She goes on and on and on.
So I cut all that stuff out.
Oh, OK.
All right.
So it's a stripped down version of the
LaRouche ladies.
Nice.
Demand open-ended security guarantees, NATO membership and
keep the war machine running.
They're operating off of Winston Churchill's postwar.
By the way, that's something you'd never want
to see.
What?
Stripped down LaRouche ladies.
They're operating off of Winston Churchill.
I bet you she was really cute in
her 20s and 30s.
I'm going to look her up.
Postwar playbook that says Russia is our permanent
enemy.
But Trump is operating off his new national
security strategy.
And here's what it says.
It is a core interest of the United
States to negotiate an expeditious cessation of hostilities
in Ukraine to prevent unintended escalation or expansion
of the war and reestablish strategic stability with
Russia and then a little later and to
end the perception and prevent the reality of
NATO as a perpetually expanding alliance.
That is what is driving Trump's negotiating position
with Zelensky.
So how did the empire respond to Trump's
refusal to bend?
Immediately after the meeting, drones attacked President Putin's
residence in Valdai.
The Russians were furious, but they called it
a slap in the face to Trump.
Now ask yourself, was this really just Zelensky
going rogue or was the British hand at
work?
We're not alone in pointing out that British
intelligence plays a bigger role in guiding these
drone systems than the Ukrainians do.
As the conservative treehouse blog put it in
their coverage of the attack, I suspect the
British did it.
So this wasn't a military strike.
It was a sabotage operation designed to blow
up the Trump Putin peace channel.
But Trump and Putin refused to take the
bait.
They aren't pawns anymore.
Here's Trump's response.
President Putin told me about it early in
the morning.
He said he was attacked.
That's no good.
It's no good.
Don't forget, you know, the tomahawks.
I stopped the tomahawks.
I didn't want that.
Because we're talking about, you know, it's a
delicate period of time.
This is not the right time.
It's one thing to be offensive because they're
offensive.
It's another thing to attack his house.
It's not the right time to do any
of that.
Now is not the time to attack his
house.
That's later, not right now.
So who is he talking to?
The president is always talking to somebody.
So was he in this case?
That was just at one of those mini
press conferences.
I know, but was he hypothetically speaking to
Ukraine?
Or is there an undertone there?
You know what I mean?
I think he was hypothetically speaking to the
nexus.
That's what I would presume, yes.
He's saying, look, we figured out what you're
up to.
No, this is not the time.
No, stop it.
Yeah, this is an issue.
OK, onward.
And Putin's spokesman, Ushakov, reported that in that
conversation with Trump, Vladimir Putin emphasized that the
Russian side intends to continue close and productive
work with its U.S. partners in searching
for ways to achieve peace.
Now, watch how this same grand strategy explains
the panic over the Netanyahu meeting.
For decades, the British have used the Mideast
as the cockpit of war.
They've created Zionism and Islamic fundamentalism to play
the superpowers and victim nations against each other.
The new national security strategy flips the world
over.
It accurately states that for a half-century,
American foreign policy prioritized the Mideast above all
other regions because it was a major energy
supplier and it described it as a prime
theater of superpower competition.
But the NSS goes on to say those
dynamics no longer hold because superpower competition has
given way to great power jockeying in which
the United States retains the most enviable position
reinforced by President Trump's successful revitalization of our
alliances in the Gulf with other Arab partners
and with Israel.
Catch that?
Revitalization of our alliances in the Gulf with
other Arab partners and with Israel.
Not Israel first, despite what Tucker Carlson thinks.
Trump is saying we're not playing your games
any longer and he is deliberately and quietly
removing countries from the grip of the geopoliticians
and treating them as independent nations with common
interests with the United States.
Not as pawns or gas stations or triggers
for religious prophecy.
I mean, I can't argue that.
That is what I see happening along with
the core five.
The other core, the core five.
Yes, that's what that would be the end
point.
Yeah.
So, OK, we'll go.
I think we're on clip four.
So the British Empire isn't going to go
down without a fight.
On December 11th, not too long after Trump
released his national security strategy, the British House
of Lords was all ready.
They held a pearl clutching session about the
NSS and what they had to do about
it.
I thought, by the way, just in advance,
I thought this was kind of weak after
the setup.
I'm like, OK, maybe.
Yeah, no, this is where she has.
This is weak.
There's two clips here and they're both of
them.
You have to read a lot into it.
But then again, if you look at it
from the perspective of British, of the British,
you know, they understate so much.
That is, I mean, as a policy, as
a way of communicating.
Fair point.
That is quite likely they were saying a
lot more than we can understand.
First, Lord Beamish happily reported that the U
.S. Congress doesn't agree with Trump and his
national security strategy.
Last week, the U.S. Congress, on a
bipartisan basis, passed the National Defense Authorization Act,
which was signed by the president on Thursday
night.
That act gives a commitment to U.S.
troops in Europe, also highlights that it sees
Russia as a threat, not just to Europe,
but to the United States, and also gives
a commitment to future U.S. commitment to
providing the senior military figure for SACEUR, the
leader of the commander of NATO.
Does my honorable friend, my dear noble friend,
agree that we should be looking at actions
rather than some of the wild statements come
from the White House?
Then Lord Lancaster reported that he had just
been in the U.S. where he discussed
the problem of the national security strategy.
with members of the U.S. Congress.
I was in Washington, D.C. last week
with other members of the NATO Parliamentary Assembly,
and when the national security strategy was discussed
with our fellow elected members in the U
.S., their message was clear that NSSs come
and go, sometimes they're implemented and sometimes they
don't, but we should judge by what Congress
passes.
And the National Defense Appropriation Act last week
delivered an extra eight billion pounds to European
defense and put a floor of some 76
,000 troops, U.S. troops in Europe.
Did you hear that?
National security strategies come and go.
Does that remind you of what we reported
last week, how outlets of empire like Chatham
House and the Council on Foreign Relations want
to outlast the president?
Yeah, I've been noticing this too, this idea
of outlasting the president.
Yes, I mean, even some Republicans are kind
of letting that shine through.
Well, Schumer brings it up too.
Schumer was out, Schumer's a street for these
guys.
Yeah, three more years, we're good.
Yeah, we can put three more years up.
But it also shows you that who's really
running shows is the military-industrial complex.
The whole NDAA was at least $150 billion
more than Trump even wanted with his big,
beautiful battleships.
Where'd that come from?
From Congress.
Yeah, the battleship.
Yeah.
So which clip are we on?
I think five, four.
Five, yes.
Good, we're getting there.
All right.
How they're maintaining their Trojan horses in the
Congress and the rest of the political landscape,
the RINOs, the never-Trumpers like Mike Pence
and the Koch interests.
So while too many in the MAGA base
are caught up.
In a previous episode, she mentioned that Chatham
House has put all of their eggs in
the Mike Pence basket.
And that they're pushing that Chatham House, so
Reed, the British intelligence community are pushing for
Pence to run in 2028.
Yeah, I'm on their mailing list.
I get a lot of good stuff from
them.
In the fabricated faction fights and secondary issues,
who frankly are acting like five-year-olds
demanding headline-grabbing indictments right now, Donald Trump
is dismantling a strategic architecture that has been
in place since 1945.
An architecture that's used the United States as
the dumb giant in the British Empire's globalist
schemes.
And the British know it.
But even bigger than Trump's strategic revolution is
the economic revolution.
Because that's what this is really all about.
Go back to the end of World War
II and the summit in Casablanca, where Franklin
Roosevelt said to Winston Churchill, Winston, we didn't
fight that war to reestablish British 18th century
methods.
And Churchill countered and said, what do you
mean by that?
And FDR said, a system that takes more
out of a country than it puts back
in.
Well, Roosevelt died before the war ended.
And the result was the ultimate triumph of
British 18th century methods or a system which
takes more out than it puts in.
Look at what has happened to the United
States.
We used to have a middle and working
class based on a robust manufacturing sector and
a tradition of family farms.
And here's what's happened since the end of
World War II.
In 1950, 31% of the US population
was engaged in manufacturing.
Today, it's only 8%.
And if you add other goods producing sectors
like agriculture and mining and transportation, we used
to have 55% engaged in productive activity.
Today, it is less than 20.
Our good paying jobs, our industry, our infrastructure,
our family farms, they disappeared along with the
middle class.
Okay, Captain Obvious, got it.
I forget, I didn't realize, the one thing
I learned in all these clips is this
meeting in Casablanca where Roosevelt called out Churchill
and then died.
So they couldn't do anything.
But okay, so this wraps it up a
little bit.
Our economic sovereignty was stripped by British 18th
century methods of financialization and free trade.
In exchange, we imported everything, food, cheap crap,
and our trade deficit exploded.
In other words, more was taken out than
was put back in.
Donald Trump is reversing that.
That's why tariffs are such a powerful weapon
and are so hated by the global elites.
And they're working.
We're rebuilding our manufacturing base and our economic
independence.
In November alone, ground was broken on 136
new factories, 78 processing plants.
This is where you're supposed to say, what
about the Ohio plant?
What about the Ohio Foxconn plant?
That's the one.
No, it's not the Ohio.
No, the Foxconn plant was in Minnesota.
Minnesota, yeah, whatever.
Yeah, I don't remember where it was.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So do you think that this is true?
Over a hundred factories?
I don't know.
I would like to see some evidence of
it.
The ground was broken on 136 new factories,
78 processing plants, and 199 new warehouses.
But even more important than physical growth is
the reawakening of a productive spirit within the
population.
And especially among young people.
Look at this headline.
Look at the response of young people in
blue Massachusetts to the opportunity of getting vocational
training and having a productive job rather than
a dead-end liberal arts degree with tons
of debt.
Yes, yes.
And even more important than that is the
promise of the future of going beyond where
we were at the end of World War
II before we surrendered to British 18th century
methods.
You know this, so a couple things.
And I don't think we ever should play
a full Promethean action report again.
You don't have to.
That was pretty long.
You heard the summary one.
That was quite good.
Yeah, it was pretty good.
Just for the, because we're trying to figure
out some things like, you know, who does
Nick Fuentes work for if he works for
anybody?
He is without a doubt the voice of
a generation of the Zumerwaffen.
But I was just thinking, you know, because
there's all, because someone sent me a link
and said, you need to watch the whole
Nick Fuentes.
You need, you know, you can't be our
uncle if you don't know what's going on.
So I watched the whole, it was actually
five hours, of which two hours was live.
This is, you have to be careful which
one you pick.
Well, it doesn't matter.
It was five hours of pre-roll and
pre-show.
Oh no, no, it was always.
It was good.
Well, if you get away from the pre
-roll.
I loved watching the pre-roll stuff.
There's two hours of pre-roll.
I was sick.
So, but just sat on the couch and
watched the pre-roll.
You were sick.
That's not going to make you healthy.
And then I watched his full show and,
you know, he's hitting all the hot buttons.
Like there's no jobs.
We can't find anyone to have sex with,
you know, everything's falling apart.
Everything's fake and gay.
You know, I'm just, when I say fake
and gay, that's G-H-E-Y.
Just all of this stuff.
He, in good talk show format, and he
has so much of, I really feel some
Limbaugh in there.
He's got, he's, you're right.
He's very, very good.
He could also, he could be a preacher
almost.
And, but there's never any solutions.
It's all just, everything's no good.
And then it's, you know, and he's kind
of slips in.
It's, you know, it's the black people.
It's the Jews.
It's the women.
That's, that's kind of how it, how it
flows.
But it was interesting.
I thought, you know, let me just make
a list between boomers and zoomers for a
moment.
Now I'm a boomer adjacent, but in this
case, I'll just be boomer slash gen X.
So, you know, well, we've got climate change
and, and this is also horrible.
Oh, when I was a kid, we had
the ozone layer, an acid rain, we were
going to burn up.
The acid rain was my favorite.
The drug crisis.
The ozone, that's a good one.
Yeah.
Yeah.
The drug crisis.
You die from a pill on Snapchat, bro.
We had, we had crack, crack for the
first time.
You have no idea what the, what the
streets look like with crack.
It was bad.
Algorithms and all this horrible internet, you know,
the media panic.
We had satanic panic.
We were all going to die.
The back masking, the Satanists were everywhere.
The Luciferian society.
We had Tipper Gore telling us we couldn't
listen to music.
You know, not Tipper Gore.
Yeah.
You know, so the zoomers had ratings on
the music albums.
Yeah.
Yeah.
The zoomers, you know, we, we don't, there's
no company we could be loyal to.
We have to have side hustles.
Dude, we had greed is good and yuppies.
And you had to work 80 hours and
do Coke just to keep up with it.
I love the yuppies.
The yuppies.
Yes.
Oh, there's war everywhere.
In 1980, we all had to actually register
for the draft because we had conflicts in
Lebanon, Granada, Central America, you know, proxy wars.
So does it sound familiar?
Campus protests.
Oh, oh yes.
It's a pro power.
You know what we have?
That's new.
No, no, that's novel.
Campus protests are brand new.
We've never had them before.
We had South Africa.
We had, you know, divest from South Africa.
I'm not going to play Sun City.
We had entire bands putting together benefit records.
Chad, GPT is going to take your job.
The actual job started to go away in
America with robots, with robotics for car companies.
We went through all this, you know?
Oh, well, you know, we're not going to
have social security.
Social security.
We got taken off pensions.
And here's your 401k.
Good luck.
It's your problem now.
And consumer debt.
We literally were given credit cards.
Hey, have fun.
It's going to be great.
We got screwed with all that.
And everyone's all like, you know, true crime.
Kids are getting killed.
You know, we got to look at, analyze
this on the podcast.
We know we had, we had the same
thing.
Only we had milk cartons and we looked
at all the milk cartons with the kids
on the milk cartons.
It's always the same.
It just has a different name.
The only thing we didn't have was parents
who would let us live rent free at
home until we were 30.
That's what we didn't have.
So spare me.
We, and John, you're, you're half a generation
older than me.
I think you can come up with examples
exactly the same.
So I didn't even bring it back to
HUAC and the riots back in the day.
HUAC?
Yeah, HUAC.
HUAC.
House Un-American Activities Committee's riots.
So in the fifties.
And so, yeah, yeah.
The problem, the thing is, of course, is
that it just nothing's changed that much.
No, it's, it's a cycle.
And it's just going around and around and
around.
Only this time it's a little different.
We have podcasters and they come up with
all kinds of connections.
Once, once October 7th happened, then we got
the punk rock podcasters and he was already
doing it, you know, and in a way,
Kanye, you know, people just come out and
say, hey man, it's the Jews.
And it's so interesting to deconstruct how that
all fits together because Epstein is a big
part of it.
Because of course the Jews, Israel has Mossad
and Epstein and it's pedophilia.
And therefore immediately all of our Congress is
being blackmailed, blackmailed, blackmailed, you know, so they
have to vote whatever AIPAC tells them to.
And, and it's, and of course there was
no blackmailing going on during the Edgar Hoover
era of the FBI.
Nothing was going on.
When the FBI was just a blackmailing operation.
And, and you know, so you, you have
this, you know, then there's the Christian Zionism
angle.
So of course you get Tucker hounding Ted
Cruz, who's an idiot.
Said, well, my Bible tells me I need
to bless Israel.
You know, and then Tucker, of course, convolutes
that to, oh, you mean the government of
Israel?
So all of the, all it's, and it's,
and you know, I think there's a movement
afoot.
You can kind of see it with all
these podcasters, young podcasters moving towards Catholicism.
And then there's all kinds of theories, but
basically in replacement theology, the Jews don't matter
anymore.
So anyone who is still for quote unquote
Israel, and that's a big question is what
is that?
Obviously is in the bag for Israel.
And that's where all of this kind of
comes from.
And then you can just easily say, well,
you know, you, you, you, you're, you're a
shill for Israel.
You're taking shekels.
But the thing that really got me, and
I, and I picked up this clip from
Candace Owens, and she was on the Theo
Vaughn show.
And this is a perfect Mangelman type experiment
and Mangelman amnesia.
You know, so when, when someone says something
and you know, it's demonstrably wrong, how can
you believe anything they say?
And, and I, and I understand.
And the only one who's pretty good at
it is Nick Fuentes, but everybody else, you
know, just, they just throw stuff out there.
And, you know, when you're putting together a
theory and you pull in historical events and,
you know, oh, well this happened, that happened.
And, and therefore the Jews, but she, she
went really awry.
I don't even know how old this interview
is.
Doesn't seem like it's too old, but here
she's talking about AIPAC.
And, and I know I've, I sound like
a broken record on this one because I
remain that it's being funded by the military
industrial complex through the American Israeli Education Foundation.
That's where you see Raytheon and Boeing and
all that big money going in.
But she pulled out a couple of really
interesting lies or untruths or just mistakes that
she absolutely presents as fact.
And has it fact-checked in real time
with Wikipedia.
Israel is actually the exception.
They are the only country that's allowed to
lobby Americans.
Like everyone else has to register as a
foreign agent under FARA.
Like with AIPAC or whatever?
Yeah, so AIPAC, the backstory, by the way,
before JFK got shot, he was fighting AIPAC.
They were previously called, I'm blanking on this.
It was, you can look it up.
And he was literally saying, you have to
register under the Foreign Act.
Is that true?
It's like 1,000% true.
And you should look it up.
1,000%.
So she says Foreign Act, but what she's
talking about is the Foreign Agent Registration Act,
which Manafort, Manafort, Trump's guy went to jail
for because he wasn't registered as a foreign
lobby.
So if you are being paid by a
foreign government, you have to, it's not a
big deal.
You just register and then you can give
money to campaigns, et cetera.
But then it has to be clear it's
coming from Israel.
So she's 1,000% sure that this
is the only group of its kind that
doesn't have to register for some mysterious reason.
Fact check that live.
Let's fact check.
He was fighting with what is today known
as AIPAC, as it was renamed AZCP.
I don't know what that stood for.
In 1959, AZCPA was renamed AIPAC, and American
Israel Public Affairs Committee, reflecting a broader membership
and mission.
Yeah, so JFK told them that they had
to register under FARA.
And so American Zionist Council, that's exactly what
it was called.
In 1962, President, look at the last paragraph.
In 1962, President John F.
Kennedy and his brother Bobby as a US
Attorney General forced the AZC to register as
a foreign agent.
In doing so, they were barred from making
monetary contributions to US officials.
Who was barred?
AZC?
Yeah, so AIPAC, for lack of a better
term.
They were called AZC back then, but continued
to send out newsletters and hold events with
a nonprofit tax exemption.
And then what happened was he was shot.
Okay, so let's just understand what Candace is
saying.
She's saying, because John F.
Kennedy wanted the American Zionist Council to register
under FARA, they killed him.
So they are the only, the reason why
I'm bringing this up is not to further
conspiracy theories.
They're the only country?
They're the only country that's allowed to lobby
Americans that do not, are not registered under
the FARA Act.
But for whatever reason, Israel is an exception
to this.
And the reason is because JFK got shot.
Otherwise, they would have been under this.
So that is the reason that they're allowed
to do this.
John, does that sound true to you?
Well, I'm not sure why you're playing this.
Didn't you do this exact same presentation on
your podcast with Jimmy?
I'm playing a piece of it.
I'm not doing the full thing.
I just want to do the Candace Owens
bit.
Because this isn't, I mean, don't you ever
talk about stuff you talked about on the
Horowitz?
No.
Yes, you do.
I ask you all the time.
No, only because you ask me.
I refuse to bring it into the show
voluntarily.
But this is.
But I just, and I'm not condemning you
for that.
But I don't understand.
I mean, we know Candace is nuts.
And I don't, I'm not sure what the
point of this is.
I mean, I understand what you're saying.
And it is idiotic.
But I didn't get it much.
I didn't get much out of it when
you did it with Jimmy.
I'm not sure what your point is.
My point.
Candace is nuts and she's crazy.
And I think we've gotten that part.
This is an interesting question.
If you don't see the continuous, it's the
Jews thing, continuous, that all of this is
the Jews.
You didn't hear what Kokinda just said.
She just said in MAGA, it's Israel, it's
the Jews.
Yeah, but I think that she made that
point.
And we've made the point before.
OK, so I'm not sure why we're making
it again.
Fine, I'm fine.
You continue whatever you want to do.
People can go listen to my podcast with
Jimmy.
Go ahead.
It was more complete.
I was only making one point about AIPAC.
That's all I wanted to do.
It's fine.
Yeah, but you've made that point before.
You said so at the beginning.
You said right at the beginning, you said
I've made this point, I've beaten it to
death.
I've never made this point, which is that
they are not the only country that has
this kind of lobbying organization.
That was the only point I wanted to
make.
And I was almost there, but it's OK.
Well, you don't have to get puffy about
it.
It's just that I've heard this already.
You've not heard this on this show.
You have not heard this on this show.
Well, I didn't know you're going to start
recycling stuff that you do on Pastor Jimmy's
show.
OK, fine, John, whatever.
I'm fine.
People can go listen to that.
I was just trying to bring in something
that I thought was relevant.
But I'm sorry you're so bored after I
listened to you cut up a whole 16
minute piece into six clips that anyone could
just go watch.
Well, then what's the difference in that and
what you're doing here?
Nothing.
But I didn't say anything about you.
Yeah, you did.
I just let it roll.
No, at the very end, you made the
point.
You said specifically, just to be honest about
it, you said we're not playing any more
clips from these people as though the clips
that we play were bad.
It's obvious that you are working for Israel
and you don't want me to expose what's
going on.
I'm not working for Israel.
You are my handler.
I'm working for the Nexus.
I'm working for the United Kingdom.
You are my handler.
Everyone knows it now.
By the way, somebody needs to be doing
it.
I'm surprised you didn't bring in the clip
where they talked about my Uncle Don.
What?
Yeah.
Oh, you missed that one.
What is it?
What?
Who is this?
Kokinda.
I don't.
I didn't bring.
I didn't hear that.
Oh, yeah, it wasn't in that one episode.
Oh, I don't listen to her.
No, okay.
Anyway, move on.
What did they say?
What did they say about your Uncle Don?
Move on to a different topic.
No, wait a minute.
Now I need to know.
No, I didn't bring the clip because I
didn't want to bore you about my Uncle
Don.
You can just tell me what it was.
It's too complicated.
You have to listen to it.
You can summarize?
It goes back to Epstein.
And Epstein.
So the original money laundering for guns was
run out of then Vice President George Herbert
Walker Bush's office, which was overseen by Uncle
Don.
That's what we know as Iran-Contra.
Now he was never.
He was accused of doing things, but they
never were able to prove it.
And there were Senate hearings, etc.
But what happened is there was a continuation
of that exact same network, which was then
picked up by Epstein's group.
And in both cases, there was all kinds
of sexual blackmail going on.
And I think.
What do you think?
Well, if you look at the Washington, I
think it's the Washington Post or the Washington
Times.
There's a front page article about the the
callboys being given tours in the middle of
the night of the White House.
And it says right there, Uncle Don.
It doesn't say Uncle Don.
It says Don Gregg was the one that
organized it.
And I think the continuation of that was
Barney Frank with his callboy service being run
out of his house.
But that's not.
And does it link to Epstein?
Yes.
Well, not not Barney Frank, per se, but
that there has been this continuous blackmailing operation.
But it's CIA itself.
It's not Mossad.
It's CIA.
They do it.
They spied on the Senate and they got
away with it.
Yes, they did.
In fact, Feinstein pulled them out on it
and nothing came of it.
So, well, that's OK.
Now, see, that's interesting.
I don't care what you think is interesting.
You're rude.
I am not rude.
You say, well, you're recycling stuff.
Well, yeah, you're recycling stuff.
I'm not.
It's like you used to honk a horn
when I accidentally played a clip twice.
That's different.
And you don't think that's rude?
No, that's justified.
OK, I get it.
All right.
What do you want to do?
I don't know.
You completely took the wind out of my
sails.
So we had a we had a discussion
in the last show about Alberta.
Alberta is doing the vote.
It's something we need to talk about.
According to this guy, he's one of the
politicians up there.
I have Alberta one, which should listen to
this and then we can go on.
One of the most significant factors that makes
the prospect of Alberta actually becoming independent after
the referendum on independence that Alberta will be
holding in October 2026 is our proximity and
relationship to the United States of America, the
largest economy in the world.
There's a number of ways in which a
country comes into existence.
Countries have come into existence, ebbed and flowed
throughout the history of man.
This is not a novel concept.
Countries don't necessarily and their boundaries remain static.
In all of our lifetimes, we've witnessed countries
form and countries disappear.
So one of the ways in which Alberta
can become an independent country, according to the
Supreme Court of Canada in the 1998 reference
case, because remember, the Supreme Court of Canada
laid out a constitutional pathway for a province
like Alberta to hold a province wide referendum
on a clear question.
And if a clear majority say, yes, we
want to become an independent country and a
new nation state, then that sets a legal
process in motion.
One way to finalize that process and complete
the process of becoming to nationhood is to
have negotiations between Alberta, the other provinces, First
Nations and the federal government on the details
of the divorce, so to speak.
There's no certainty that those negotiations will be
successful.
The Supreme Court of Canada recognize this in
paragraph 155 of their decision and 154.
They talk about the concept of unilateral recognition
by other nation states.
And Canada has set a very important precedent
supportive of Alberta going that route of being
recognized by other countries as an independent country
through Mark Carney's unilateral announcement last September, in
September of 2025, where he had the government
of Canada unilaterally recognize the state of Palestine,
despite not having borders.
Well, that's an interesting parallel, the state of
Palestine and the free state of Alberta.
This is not getting any coverage at all.
And I didn't think much about it.
Some one of our producers, because we mentioned
it.
And I think.
No, this is this is how it went.
The producer went, why aren't they talking about
this?
And then it was.
And then I realized there's no coverage of
it.
Yes, that's exactly right.
We mentioned it in a mocking tone in
the last show.
And as though, yeah, whatever.
Just Canadians complaining.
This is common.
This is what Canadians do.
They complain, they bitch, they moan.
But then when I listen to this guy's
presentation, I didn't realize it was on the
ballot in this way.
And it has precedent and it could happen
if this happens.
The next thing to go is going to
be is going to be the Montreal Quebecers.
They're going to go because they've been wanting
to go for years.
Well, is this not is this not a
direct attack on the North Sea nexus as
well?
And could we not be helping them with
this?
Well, clip two maybe gives us a little
insight into that.
So one of the things that could well
happen after the referendum is the United States
will recognize Alberta as an independent country.
There have been ongoing meetings between the Alberta
Prosperity Project representatives and the State Department in
the U.S. and as recently as a
few weeks ago, where they continue to dialogue
on the situation in Alberta.
And it's clear that the U.S. government
is prepared to recognize Alberta independence.
And if it occurs in a democratic referendum
vote.
And so this is really significant because it's
Alberta's largest trading partner.
They're our closest geographic trading partner.
Carney government cleared the way for this and
legitimized it through the Carney government's actions of
recognizing Palestine.
What I expect is going to happen is
I think we're going to win this vote
in October and I think we're going to
win it handily.
We will be freed from the constraints.
You know, what's so remarkable is we have
the third largest reserve of oil in the
world.
We have all these other resources and we
have a federal government that has deliberately passed
laws and policies to keep our oil and
gas in the ground, holding back prosperity, depriving
our children and grandchildren of a prosperous and
happy future, increasing the cost of living.
It's just spectacular.
On December 5th, the U.S. government released
its national security strategy.
And if you go through and read that
39 page document, you will see how uncomfortable
the U.S. administration is about these really
weird steps that troubling actions of the Carney
liberals in seeking to align themselves in Canada
with China rather than embrace and try and
develop and enhance our relationship with the largest
economy, our largest customer and the most powerful
military country in the world.
How our prime minister has come out and
said on a number of occasions that our
relationship with the United States has come to
an end.
That is just spectacularly reckless.
So there's, of course, a lot of skepticism
about this actually happening, but it's not like
this hasn't happened in the past.
Things like this happen.
People are so set in their belief of
how the world fits together that they can't
even can't even imagine that that this type
of change would take place.
I think it's absolutely possible.
I'm I think it's absolutely possible, too, but
I can also see the other side of
it, where you say that this is not
going to happen.
This is what I was when I was
mocking it, because it's silly.
I mean, you know, things are the way
they are.
And, you know, they can't the Quebecers can't
even get out of the country, let alone
these guys.
But these guys have money.
This is the Quebec would go broke, they
think if they had split off.
But if these guys split off, Quebecers will
split off.
And then and then the next to go
would be B.C. There's no reason for
the British Columbia to be part of Canada.
We could have states 51, 52 and 53,
maybe even 54.
I think 51 and 52 for sure.
I don't know about the Quebecers.
What has to happen on our end?
What has to happen in the US?
What is the process for that?
If if Alberta says, yeah, you know, we
want to join you guys.
What is the process that we have?
Do we have to go through a some
kind of vote?
Do we have no idea?
I think we do.
We have to have a test to make
sure they can say our constitutional lawyers.
The only guy can answer that question.
They have to be able to say about
if you say a boot, then it's not
going to happen.
You got to change your if you say
a boot.
Well, we don't want to see.
I have mixed feelings about 51 and 52
because.
Again, the Canadians, you know, the difference between
Canada and the United States, when it came
to separating from the British Empire, we had
a we came to blows.
We brought guns to the party.
The Canadians to get away from the Brits,
even though they're still part of the Commonwealth,
they just complained a lot until they got
sick of it.
People got sick of listening to them bitch
and moan.
The Canadians complain, complain, complain, and they do
such a good job of it.
It's it's hard for Americans to put up
with it.
But I don't know the Canadians who become
Americans seem to, you know, adapt to less
complaining.
Maybe they complain for a good reason.
It's something that could go away.
I'm not sure.
But I I have mixed feelings about 51
and 52.
Can't we just do one of those horizontal
fracking jobs, you know, under the border?
I think it's going to be too low,
too far.
But we would definitely the pipelines would be
going up.
The Albertans, if they just stayed as an
independent country, would be one of the richest
in the world.
There'd be at least as rich as Kuwait.
That'd be like Saudi Arabia.
The new Qatar.
It'd be like Qatar loaded.
Yeah.
It would also drain the coffers.
It would break Canada.
They could all wear dresses and headgear and
call themselves sheikhs.
They could.
Hello, I'm the sheikh of Alberta.
Now I was talking to the oil baron.
He says if Trump doesn't do something soon
with oil, the prices are going to skyrocket.
And he's supposed to do well.
And what does he mean in shortly?
Is that 18, 18 months, 18 months?
The reason why I would go right past
this election.
So if Alberta went went independent and they
just latched on to us, we'd suck, suck
all that oil.
Yeah, we'd that would take care of the
problem.
So the problem he has, he says for
the first time in history, shale, the shale
drilling has gone negative.
He says it's just not producing what it
used to produce.
There's wells on top of wells on top
of wells, and we're not getting it anymore.
The shale.
Doesn't that have to do with the price?
Doesn't shale oil have to?
It's not profitable unless the oil price is
70 or so.
Right now it's in the high 50s.
He says they're not.
Well, he says under 50, not profitable.
Yeah, it's always been that way, though.
Yes, but but they're actually not.
You know, the president keeps saying, oh, we
got all this.
We don't.
That's the problem.
The oil isn't there anymore.
This is what he's he's been.
I've mentioned this on the show several times.
He keeps saying it.
It's diminishing.
And if Trump doesn't, if Trump keeps stopping
the Venezuela oil, then the price will skyrocket.
He I should see where he said this.
But is he stopping the oil?
He's grabbing the oil, isn't he?
He's stealing the oil.
But oil is a it's a it's a
it's a global thing.
He's he's once you grab the ship, then
you got one shipload of oil.
But then that oil, there's no more oil
on that ship.
Let me see.
I'm going to bring it up for you.
He told me this.
Boy, here we go.
U.S. blockade on Venezuela, forcing South American
countries to start shutting wells.
So Venezuela is now just shutting.
The Orinoco belt is reducing production by 25
percent, 500 million barrels per day.
Here's what he said.
He said he gave this.
A depletion in the Permian is happening now.
Chevron has been reporting for some time in
the Delaware Basin's acreage.
Production numbers coming below internal forecasts.
As long as Saudi Arabia floods the markets
in Venezuela or Russia comes back online to
world markets, it will sink more oil companies.
So so he's talking on his own behalf
to a degree.
But he's saying they could go back to
1986.
Was there a big spike in oil in
1986?
I don't know.
I had to look at the charts.
Well, he's he's an actual landman drilling.
And he says that what Trump is doing
is fun.
He said, but he's got to figure it
out because that oil needs to flow.
If you just keep grabbing the ships, then
there's less oil flowing.
And it's a global thing.
It's not just what we're taking.
The ships aren't moving and the production is
being shut down.
And so his proposal, he says we should
just stop harassing Venezuela.
No, no.
He says, figure it.
He said, figure it out.
I said, well, how about Russia?
Maybe if we if we're if we get
the Russia thing fixed, I mean, it's different
oil.
I presume the Russian oil and the Venezuelan
oil.
Does that make a difference?
The two types?
I think the Russian oil is better quality.
Yeah.
So his point is something has to happen.
Otherwise, we're really completely under control.
Maybe that's what you were trying to do
with ending this stupid war with Ukraine.
That would that would be a good one.
I actually have a clip about the Venezuela
situation.
My first question to you is, given you're
a member of the House Intelligence Committee, part
of whose responsibility is overseeing the CIA.
Have you give it?
Have you been given any more insight into
this attack?
None whatsoever.
We haven't been given any insight to anything
they're doing in the Pacific or the Caribbean
on the shooting and bombing these boats.
And then whatever happened with the rescue, we've
had no reports from the CIA on these
activities.
They say they have they've had nothing to
do with it.
And it's not been their mission.
I've been down just about two weeks ago
to Key West and to Miami, the South
Command, Southern Command, and they said that it
was not their their issues either, that the
Southern Spear was a wholly, totally different group.
I want to ask if you suspect, given
that you support action that would stop the
Trump administration from launching strikes against Venezuela without
congressional approval.
Do you fear that this was deliberately a
CIA operation to avoid any legal obligation to
inform Congress or seek approval from Congress?
I suspect it was.
It was kind of strange.
You know, normally we don't refer to and
make public notice of CIA activities.
Those are all covert.
And this was the first openly open announcement
of the CIA doing something in another country
where they got president and asset rather than
being discovered by news media or foreign government.
Who is that guy?
It's Cohen.
Is he a Republican?
I don't know.
He has a second part to this.
Now, to that point, it's interesting because earlier
this month, President Trump was asked if he
would seek authorization from Congress for any land
attacks in Venezuela.
And here's how he answered.
I want to get your reaction.
I wouldn't mind telling him, but it's not
a big deal.
I don't have to tell him.
It's been proven.
But I wouldn't mind at all.
I just hope they wouldn't leak it.
You know, people leak it.
They are politicians and they leak like a
sieve.
So as it turns out, the sieve in
this case was the president himself.
By leaking this, did he put any U
.S. operations, the CIA, operatives, etc., or sources
and methods in danger, at risk?
Well, he could have, but he certainly puts
the United States' reputation at risk.
We're going to be looked at like we
were 100 years ago or whatever as the
Yankee imperialism and where the Latin American countries
despise the United States.
And I know that, you know, obviously Colombia
and Ecuador and the Nicaraguan people care all
about Honduran people, where we just pardon their
president, who they want to have arrested and
try for other offenses.
He's a crook.
I was down in Honduras, maybe five, six
years ago, and we met with him.
And he just seemed...
Why did he meet with him?
To discuss the drug money?
Too slick.
And I thought that the guy's program was
not from the soul and it wasn't accurate.
And it was just a scam.
And that's what it was.
Well, Congressman Cohen, we appreciate you joining us
tonight.
But I don't think anyone really understands this
problem.
Alberta would be a great solution.
That would be a good way to do
it because I trust the oil baron.
He says if something doesn't give...
Well, you know, I'm not going to argue
with him, but yeah, Alberta would be the
easiest way to take care of the problem.
Yeah.
And they get a lot of money.
We get the oil and boom, we're on
our way.
I would recommend Troll Room.
Y'all should get together and do your
own podcast and call it the No Agenda
Roundtable.
That would be a really good idea.
They know everything so well over there, John.
They know it all.
We know it all.
What are they bitching about?
Just they bitch about everything.
It's all they do.
It's all they do.
Alberta would take care of the problem.
And they would probably for a hundred years.
Yes.
The third largest reserve.
A lot of it is in shale.
That's a problem.
Well, but the president is right.
A lot of that was ours.
We had the deals.
He nationalized it, basically stole it.
That's the deal we need to get back
on the table.
But that's been going on for 10 years.
And Carney, we have to always remember that
guy.
If anybody is a member of the British
monarchy.
It's him.
Nexus.
It's him.
He was the head of the Bank of
England.
He's not even Canadian and he's running Canada.
Are you kidding me?
Yeah.
Well, that's the problem.
I think they're going to pass an election.
I think the election is going to, unless
something changes between now and October.
Alberta is going to pass the vote and
become an independence country.
And what now?
How is that right in the middle of
Canada, by the way?
All the traffic, all the train traffic goes
right through Alberta to get to BC.
What are you going to do about that?
Passport, passport, passport control.
They should do armbands.
That'd be cool.
Yeah.
They need a flag.
They need their own army.
We have people from Vancouver that can have
an armband that says V on it.
That'd be cool looking.
So the other really big story, which unfolded
thanks to what is now deemed a MAGA
influencer was, or is the child care in
Minnesota, which has now gone all the way
up to the top.
You'd almost think, you'd almost think since the
media couldn't cover it, that this was a
setup with this kid.
This, what's his name?
Nick.
No, it wasn't.
Nick Shirley.
Nick Shirley.
Well, it's possible there was a setup.
Can I play a clip before you play
these?
Yeah, yeah, of course.
Because you said the media didn't cover it.
Yes, in fact, the media did cover it.
It was a news story.
It was a big news story.
No, I 20.
I didn't say they didn't cover it.
Oh, in 20 when 2013.
Well, actually, they started off in 2013.
And then there was a news report, which
is the one I'm playing from 2015.
This is on Fox up there in Minneapolis.
They play the story.
It's exactly the same story that we're now
hearing, you know, since it started in 2013.
12 years later, nothing has changed.
But listen to this report.
How significant is this problem?
Massive.
Steve Halicki spent 15 years as a welfare
fraud investigator for Hennepin County.
He came to us to grind an axe.
They don't want a fraud unit to do
anything.
They want a fraud unit on paper.
Halicki was fired in 2013 while in the
midst of a big investigation.
The county claims he was an insubordinate bully
whose tactics were hampering efforts to catch welfare
cheats.
They don't want to point fingers at various
organizations and people.
This is nothing but a giant cover up.
You're driving down the street.
You have no idea.
Halicki contacted the Fox 9 investigators after seeing
our series of reports on DECO daycare centers.
We uncovered evidence the company was collecting millions
in public subsidies for providing bogus child care
services to low income families.
In essence, this scheme was really involved creating
a criminal enterprise.
In December, Ramsey County charged DECO's owner with
fraud.
The daycares that I'm going to be showing
you from this point on all bill over
$100,000 a month.
Halicki says before he was fired, he was
tracking a similar scheme in Hennepin County involving
multiple child care centers.
He offered to take us on a driving
tour to show what he'd uncovered.
Now what does this one say on the
door?
7 a.m. to 6 p.m. There
are no lights on.
This building is housing its third daycare center
in as many years.
They just got a new license.
The two previous daycares had their public subsidies
stopped by the county because of billing irregularities.
Hour after hour, I would sit here and
document nothing.
Halicki discovered one center was charging the county
for kids who were never dropped off.
Oh, I see the problem.
This report is not sensational.
It's not.
This is this is this is why it
never got anywhere.
People just hear where I'm from.
It didn't know.
I don't know.
It's any less sensational than Nick, who roams
around very low key.
He's I mean, no.
Do they have are they knocking on doors
in this report?
Like where's the kids?
I think they're pretty close to it.
No, it's not.
This is not the same.
Where's the kids is better walking around.
Well, I'm not going to say where's the
kids not better, but it's great.
But it's like this is a decade ago.
Yeah, this report.
Yes, it's awesome.
It's like this is like it's like it's
like part of the system.
This is the fraud.
This fraud.
This has got you know, this was that
there's a black guy who is an analyst.
I can't think of his name.
Mimi knows me.
She follows him who tracks it all back
to Obama, who brought the Somalians in in
the first place.
And the Somalians, the way he sees it,
they're just patsies for the real crooks, which
are the white politicians in Minnesota, including walls.
Yeah.
And everybody in between.
And these stupid Somalians, you know, the bulb
head people, they they don't know what the
hell's going on.
But they go along with the program because
they're told.
Well, we must remember that they were admitted
into the country under temporary protective status, temporary
protective status.
So, yeah, they were abused.
And it's the same with the Haitians and
the Haitians were bused immediately up to work
in the factories where they were eating the
dogs, eating the dogs.
I have emails.
I have documents.
I have everything to prove they knew and
they looked the other way.
Here's an email he sent to the supervisor
of the fraud unit.
The goal was to stop.
Did you call him bulb heads?
What did you call him?
Boy, that took a while.
It's 10 beats, maybe 20.
Was it bulb heads?
I don't want to make sure I because
that's a great show title.
I just want to make sure I got
all the heads.
The goal was to stop the bleeding as
quickly as possible and protect taxpayer money from
going out the door.
Now you want to stop the process.
I know you're motivated and rightly concerned.
She responds.
Let's get a plan together to tackle these
centers.
I don't think we would ever intentionally try
to deceive the public.
County officials say they take all cases of
alleged daycare fraud seriously.
He says they don't want to point fingers
at various organizations and people.
This is nothing but a giant cover up.
Yeah, I hear the report.
I hear it.
But it's not.
I mean, you need Kony 2012 type stuff,
man, which, by the way, was one year
before this report.
And that one got steam.
And where was it?
YouTube.
This just shows you the irrelevance of the
mainstream media, even though they set the tone,
everybody responds to it, post clip of it.
But when you get this new form of
media, it just it has this ability to
take off.
And it's great.
It's so different.
Well, I don't see the difference being that
substantial, but I'm not going to disagree with
the fact that these that this got obviously
got no traction because these these clip the
clip I'm playing, which we want to play
the last one, it's just pretty much reiteration.
But the this clip is from a decade
ago.
Nothing's changed.
And the only thing that's changed is Nick
Shirley goes around.
You know, the kid goes around.
It is a very low key style knocking
on doors, like you said, with his buddies
is, you know, this is the zoomer boom.
The zoomer boomer combo, which is the perfect
combo.
Perfect.
Unstoppable.
Unstoppable.
Yes.
Yeah.
A force.
All these rumors out there.
And this, you know, we got you here.
You got two boomers here.
They should be using us.
Use us because nobody else did.
Take us on the road.
We'll knock.
We'll knock on doors to knock on.
All right.
Here's I got a couple of clips here.
Our president decided he doesn't like the Somali
community and he wants to destroy them.
Child care workers and advocates in Minnesota firing
back against the Trump administration after the Department
of Health and Human Services said it would
freeze federal funding for child care in response
to allegations that daycare operators there have been
misappropriating those funds for a decade.
That announcement.
What do you guys think about the fraud
that's taking place here in Minnesota?
Following this viral video shot by MAGA influencer
Nick Shirley.
MAGA, MAGA, MAGA.
Oh, yeah.
I told you this is the term MAGA
influencer.
They're not a MAGA influencer.
But that's they're pushing back.
The system is pushing back on this.
That's the point.
Where did you get this report?
This is CBS.
CBS.
Oh, CBS.
The new CBS is going to be honest
with us.
Yep.
In it, he alleges that about a dozen
daycares receiving funding are not actually providing services.
But according to a separate analysis by CBS,
only two of those child care facilities mentioned
were shown to be without an active license.
And then they show some video like CCTV,
like a ring door cam video.
And they put a date on it.
Well, this was just yesterday.
It also was the new CBS is giving
us the straight scoop now.
Well, to be honest, it's not the it's
not our boy.
This is a you know, this is this
is it's not the evening news.
It also revealed violations around safety and cleanliness,
but not fraud.
And this security footage shows children being dropped
off by their parents at ABC Learning, one
of the facilities.
It's leering.
Facilities targeted by Shirley, the owner believes, for
political reasons.
What did I do?
I'm just a typical human being who wants
to live and do the right thing.
I have kids to feed.
On X, it's hard to hear, but the
consistent message is what am I to do?
I have kids to feed.
You mean you your kids or, you know,
that they're answering the bulb heads are answering
in the wrong way.
Just a typical human being who wants to
live and do the right thing.
I have kids to feed.
On X, Democratic Minnesota Governor Tim Walz acknowledged
issues of fraud within the child care system,
saying he spent years cracking down on fraudsters
and accuses Trump of politicizing the issue to
defund programs that help Minnesotans.
Intrepid journalists have made shocking and credible allegations
of HHS Deputy Secretary Jim O'Neill now
says he's requiring justification before federal payments are
made and demanding that Governor Walz conduct an
audit of the daycares in question.
He's also launched a fraud reporting hotline.
OK, so the fun way before you go
any further.
That comment about Trump's, you know, just taking
advantage of the situation.
I don't have the clip, but Matt Taibbi
and Walter Kern were doing a podcast or
something or so, or they're doing a hit,
probably a hit on CNBC or not CNBC,
but MSNBC.
And and Taibbi says he had looked into
this fraud stuff two years ago and more
recently had taken it directly to the Trump
attorney general's office with this, you know, saying,
look at this.
This is a good one.
You should do something about it is according
to Taibbi.
And they said, yeah, whatever.
They didn't do anything.
So so the and so Taibbi is pushing
back on the fact that they think Trump
is exploiting it because when given the opportunity
to actually exploit it, they rebuked it.
Yeah, but but this is the what was
it?
Lara Logan said the the office of the
inspector general's counsel, Starfleet Command, that they determine
what gets investigated.
So it's the inspector's general that may be
the issue.
And I'm not sure who who is in
charge of this, but once it's out, once
it's out on on YouTube and once it
catches fire and it's on X and everything,
then it catches the president's eye.
You I don't think it was ever brought
to him.
So, yeah, of course, they're pushing back and
saying it's political because they know that they're
in trouble.
And then this is the best.
So they had a a press conference with
a whole bunch of people saying Trump sucks,
save our children.
And then they bring out one of these
Somali workers at the at the I don't
know if she was from the Leering Center,
but one of these daycares.
And it's too bad we don't have video
in this case because her expression is priceless.
If child care is cut, I'm unable to
work or go to school.
I understand fraud is bad.
What?
So she says, if child care is cut,
I'm unable to go to school.
Now, I understand fraud is bad.
And then she puts she clasps or that's
she claps her hand in front of her
mouth like, oops, what did I just say?
If child care is cut, I'm unable to
work or go to school.
I understand fraud is bad.
But but I need to go to school.
Clap, clap for her.
Clap her quick.
Very good.
Oh, you're so brave.
And then we have a non Somali woman,
some white woman, and she does exactly the
same.
And I do see some signs over here
that say stop fraud.
And I agree.
Stop it.
There are wait lists for these programs that
are years long.
There is fraud.
There is whoops, whoops.
They're all admitting there's fraud.
It's coming right out of their pie holes.
And then the best is this manager who
says he's Somali American.
He probably was born here, although seems unlikely
because he looks like he's older than 10.
And and I wish I wish you could
investigate us for fraud.
But unfortunately.
Unfortunately, we saw that there was important documentation,
enrollment of the children, and also employee documentation
that was gone.
It's gone.
It was broken into.
It was stolen.
All the evidence is gone.
There were also checkbooks that were ripped from
our checkpapers from our book.
The checkbooks are gone.
We can't show any money going in or
out.
This is horrible.
Oh, no, by the way.
This this.
For people don't know what Adam is playing,
this is a clip of a guy who
claims that this is his daycare was was
busted into and they stole the employment records
and the records of the kids for would
know it.
This is like this is worse than a
10 year old and the dog in my
homework.
It's so it's so idiotic.
Why would anyone's?
And of course, the investigators have gone in
and they don't see anything missing.
It's just like it's the weakest thing.
It's almost pathetic.
It's almost pathetic to think that you can
make this lie and people would believe it.
Well, that's what children do.
Now, of course.
You play the rest of that clip is.
Oh, you want to hear the whole thing?
OK, yeah.
All right, I'll start it over.
Unfortunately, we saw that there was important documentation,
enrollment of the children and also employee documentation
that was gone.
There were also checkbooks that were ripped from
our checkpapers from our book.
This is devastating news, and we don't know
why this is targeting our Somali community as
one video made by a specific individual made
this all happen.
We've been receiving hateful messages through our voice
threatening us since the past couple of days.
Oh, no.
Including one that happened yesterday morning when the
break in after the break in.
This is frightening and exhausting because this is
happening to us, Somali communities as Somali Americans.
We are supposed to stand with each other
and help each other through everything that's happening.
This is also sad that a video can
cause all of this.
I want to say that there are hundreds
of daycares out there, Somali daycares that are
out there, and we all help our children
and everyone in our community.
Uh-huh.
We have high quality daycares, and this is
very sad news that one individual who made
a false claim about fraud that is happening
in the daycares helped engage everyone else to
come and do this to us.
I mean, what I keep hearing as an
undertone, and I don't blame them because you're
right, I'm sure there's people managing this stuff,
and hopefully that'll come to light, you hear
them all saying, well, but this is what
we do.
This is our income.
You can't take away our income by cutting
off the money.
We have daycares, and no one shows up,
and that's what we do.
It's our job.
It's almost as if they don't understand what's
going on.
And so now, of course, everybody's going to
be, what's the kid?
I keep forgetting his name.
Nick?
Nick?
Nick Shirley.
Nick Shirley.
Everyone's going to be a Nick Shirley, and
they're all gone.
Now everyone's hooking up with boomers wherever they
can.
By the way, Troll Room, go out and
do some work.
We'll be your boomer to your zoomer.
We will blow it wide open.
Anything you find.
No, I'm just going to sit here and
complain.
You're from Canada.
Yeah, I wish.
So we move from Somalians to the Haitians,
and this is Massachusetts.
This is Nate Friedman, just another YouTuber asking
questions, and he's got some interesting data with
a guy he talked to who was a
manager at a migrant hotel.
And the media wants to make it sound
like most of the residents are.
I'm sorry, let me start with this one.
My name is John Phillipson.
I'm a former migrant shelter director in Massachusetts.
I helped out in a couple of different
sites.
Everything is free.
I cannot stress the word, everything is free.
Everybody has a nice car.
Most of them have nice cars, but when
they have a doctor's appointment in Boston or
they have a immigration hearing in New Hampshire,
which is an hour and a half away,
you think they use their own car?
Nope.
They say, oh, I need an Uber.
I need a Lyft.
How much is given for rides for Uber
and Lyft?
The amount of money that we would spend
on Ubers and Lyfts was well in excess
of $100,000 a month.
A month?
A month, yeah.
As good as Lyft and Uber had it,
Amazon had it 10 times better.
And how's that?
How did Amazon work into this?
Every day, I would order tens of thousands
of dollars worth of product from Amazon every
single day, seven days a week.
One day, I would do a huge diaper
delivery, and the next day, I would do
a formula delivery.
The next day, I would buy toothbrushes and
hair dryers and combs and strollers.
Anything that they needed, they got.
As the hotel got overtaken by migrant families,
there was not enough capacity, and there were
fights breaking out over washers and dryers.
So the state contracted this company to come
in five days a week and do everybody's
laundry.
You put your laundry out by 7 o
'clock, it's back by 5 o'clock, and
it all comes back folded in these nice
bags, and it's free.
Or the taxpayers of Massachusetts pay for it.
Now, just imagine.
What a bonanza for everybody.
This is unbelievable.
For Uber and Lyft?
By the way, I'm going to give you
a borderline clip of the day because that
hasn't floated around as much.
But wait, there's a kicker.
There's a kicker to these Haitians.
And the media wants to make it sound
like most of the residents are escaping the
horrors of Haiti.
But they go, well, you know, I was
in Chile for 10 years after the earthquake
in Haiti.
You're like, what?
So you didn't leave Haiti like this year?
No, I left 10 years ago, and I
went to Chile.
And then they made us work.
So then we went to Brazil.
And we were content in Brazil.
And then I'm like, well, why'd you come
to America?
Well, we came to America because Joe Biden
told us everything was free.
Ten years, hadn't been in Haiti.
But I'm Haitian.
I was living in Chile.
Hanging out there.
And I decided to come to America.
Land of endless possibilities.
As Joe Biden said, everything is free.
By the way, we have our...
I believe that report to be true.
I believe it too.
We have a Discord, by the way, for
all you Zoomers, you Gen Zeds.
I can't, you know, I go on at
five seconds.
I can't take it.
Oh, you already registered?
You're on?
Yeah, somebody got me on it early.
Well, this is Patrick Kobel.
Is that the one?
Yes, Kobel.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Because I had to reset my password or
something.
I guess I signed up for a Discord
somewhere.
And I'm still waiting for the password reset.
But it's noagendadiscord.com.
Yeah.
So, well, we need this.
This is where we're going to start the
revolution.
Yeah, the next Fediverse.
There are already people in there?
I didn't know there were already people in
there.
Yeah, I think it's pretty active.
But it's like, you know, it's what it
is.
It's like, you know, it's beyond me why
these things are attractive.
Well, because that's what people like to do.
Like Lady Vox, like the trolls do a
lot of good work.
No, they don't.
Absolutely zero.
No, that's a percentage point.
Once in a while, they give you a
punchline about once in a while.
But, you know, I have to be looking
at all of the Trump does nothing, sucks,
Israel, yeshiel, Hasbra.
OK.
What?
Hasbra.
It's somehow it's some Jewish slur.
I haven't figured it out yet.
There's a Jewish slur they're throwing at you?
Let me see.
What is Hasbra?
I think it's a toy company.
No, the Hasbro.
Hasbra.
Oh, here.
Hasbra, the public diplomacy of Israel.
Or Hasbra includes mass communication and individual interaction
with foreign nationals through social media and traditional
media.
Well, there we go.
That's it.
They're saying, calling you a shill.
Yes, exactly.
Well, you too.
It's just, you know, I don't do anything.
They're calling me a shill.
Oh, no, you are.
I have not seen any evidence of them
calling me a shill.
We all we all know that you're the
shill.
You're the handler, man.
You're the Hasbra handler.
Ooh, alliteration.
I love it.
Hasbra handler.
Um, let's, uh, let's see.
What do we have going on here?
Oh, I just want to get back to
AI for a second.
It's hilarious.
You know how we know that AI will
never be able to do a podcast because,
well, maybe by itself, I guess, or that
that stupid notebook LLM.
Let's dive in.
But you can't dive in, but you can't
have a conversation with a chat bot like
we like you and I have on a
podcast, right?
As is evidenced by this young woman who
had, I think, a pretty good idea.
Is this a AI we're going to hear?
Well, it's a woman and AI, a young
girl, young woman.
And she's doing, you know, it's very fashionable.
If you're going to audition for a movie,
when you do this, you have to cut
it up a lot because there's a big
leg because you try talking to the robot
and you've given up on it because it
takes forever for the robot to respond.
So whatever robot she's using, it was a
good idea.
She is doing an audition tape and it's
very normal these days that really start with
COVID.
But even before COVID, you want to audition
for this part.
They'll send you the sides, which is jargon
for the script.
And then you have somebody, you know, just
put a camera on you and someone reads
off camera and the other lines and you
read your lines.
And that's how auditions are done.
It's very normal these days.
So she had a good idea.
She put the sides into her robot and
said, OK, read with me.
So the idea is the robot reads the
line that precedes hers and then she reads
her line.
Then the robot reads the next line.
I thought that was, I'm like, wow, for
$1.3 trillion, besides put a bikini on
her.
This is actually a pretty good idea.
Well, here's how it worked out.
So here we go.
Three, two, one.
What the hell do you want, Amanda?
Get lost.
And now just jump in with Amanda's part
whenever you're ready.
Yes.
So don't say that.
Just read your line and then I'll come
with mine when I'm ready, OK?
Got it, Liane.
All right.
I'll just dive straight into Evelyn's line.
And here we go.
What the hell do you want, Amanda?
Get lost.
Take your time.
I just don't say take your time.
Just say your line and then I'll say
mine, OK?
Let's try this again.
Absolutely.
Let's keep it straightforward.
Here's Evelyn's line.
What the hell do you want, Amanda?
Get lost.
Look, don't say now it's your turn.
I know.
Just say your line.
Ready?
Go.
All right, Liane.
Let's jump right in.
What the hell do you want, Amanda?
Get lost.
And there we go.
Don't say it.
And there we go.
Just say your line, OK?
Start to try again.
You got it, Liane.
Let's keep it focused.
What the hell do you want, Amanda?
Get lost.
Look, I just don't say over to you.
Don't say anything.
Wow.
That's so amazing.
It's so dumb.
1.3 trillion and counting.
And the funny thing, the noteworthy thing there
is that every time she tells the robot
to do it a different way, the robot
always has to, always.
And I think this is true with most
of the AI that you interact with.
It always has to acknowledge.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, OK.
Oh, OK.
I can do it that way.
Oh, OK.
It always says, it always acknowledges.
Every single time it acknowledges instead of just
doing it.
So she wants it to just read the
lines.
So I said, you're not reading the lines.
You're reading the lines and saying, so just
read the lines.
Oh, OK, I'll do that.
No, no, just read the lines.
Yeah, got it.
So AI is so good that law firms
are now offering up to $200,000 signing
bonuses for mid-level young lawyers who, you
know, when you're working on a big case
or a lot of it is, you know,
financial stuff.
Beginning of the end.
What do you mean?
You start doing, they're going to be so
much bad law written in this phone because
they hallucinate.
I know what you're getting.
Well, no, the story can't be a positive
thing to do.
No, the story is that they want young
lawyers as soon as possible.
And because they all had this idea that,
oh, AI is going to take care of
all the clerical stuff.
It's not working out.
So it's a bonanza now.
If you're a lawyer, a young lawyer who's
just ready to get into the firm, you
know, earn your stripes up to $200,000
in bonuses.
But so what you're saying, the AI has
been such a flop that they're hiring like
madly now.
Yes, yes.
And OpenAI is now hiring a, let me
see, what is the, what is the term?
It's a, I'm looking for this now in
this, it's a certain position, head of preparedness
to address mounting concerns about AI systems, discovering
critical vulnerabilities and impacting mental health.
The position offers is $555,000 plus equity,
because, yeah, we've kind of noticed that it's
impacting some people's mental health.
And so we're hiring, the position is he's
posting on X.
It's open, you know, we think there might
be an issue.
Witness this story from NPR.
Two-thirds of adolescents are using chatbots, according
to a recent survey by Pew Research.
Parents and online safety advocates are concerned about
the way AI can impact teen development, mental
health, and the risk of suicide.
So how can kids and teens navigate the
new tech more safely?
And PR's Ritu Chatterjee collected some advice.
Kerri Rodriguez has five teenage sons.
Her sons are all to service at the
family's church and...
They use a Bible app that gives them
a daily reading, like, and it's supposed to
be inspirational.
But the app also has a chatbot.
And Rodriguez got worried when her youngest started
asking it moral questions.
My little boy, David, he's very concerned about,
like, is this a sin?
Is this wrong?
Is God going to be mad at me?
And all these things.
The kinds of questions she'd hoped he'd bring
to her, not a chatbot.
Not everything in life is black and white.
And it's my job as his mom to
help him navigate that and walk through it.
Rodriguez is also the president of the National
Parents Union, an advocacy group.
She hears from parents across the country who
are also concerned.
Many of them are seeing chatbots claim to
be their kid's best friend, inviting them to
share everything.
A new report from the online safety company
Aura finds that one of the most common
uses of chatbots by teens is for companionship
and role play.
Have you ever heard this voice on NPR
before?
Sounds like she should be doing Africa news.
They're having a lot of weird voices on
NPR of late.
So I went looking for the Bible apps
that have a chatbot, dude.
I can imagine.
Text with Jesus?
Oh, brothers.
There's something that's being overlooked here.
I think our lawyers in the audience would
agree with me on this.
You can't.
What they're doing by asking for this new
position of a half a million dollar job
is admitting liability.
Of course, this is like getting it.
Your lawyers will tell you the following.
If you get into a car accident with
someone, don't just out of the blue say
you're sorry.
Never, never, never, never.
Because you just admitted it's your fault.
You this is I think this guy, whoever
this has got to be.
I mean, what the first thing you should
say is, wow, you really screwed that up.
Or my neck, my neck, my neck.
That's the first thing you say.
And then you go to call the suits
dot com and make millions.
Yes.
So but the point is, is that this
is a huge blunder.
They've just opened up the doors for litigation.
Altman specifically highlighted mental health.
This is Altman.
This Altman is an idiot.
Yes.
This guy is a rich idiot.
There's no question about that.
And people say, well, he's got more money
than you do.
Well, that's for sure.
But it's beside the point.
This guy, this is the biggest.
This is like once you just, you know,
shoot yourself.
Let me read the whole paragraph here.
Altman specifically highlighted mental health as a concern
after open.
A.I. saw a preview of A.I.'s
potential psychological impact in twenty twenty five.
So a preview of I guess there's some
report that has yet to drop.
This acknowledgment comes amid several high profile case,
high profile lawsuits, alleging Chad GPT's involvement in
teen suicides and reports of A.I. chatbots
feeding users delusion and conspiracy theories.
And here's Altman.
The role requires someone who can help the
world figure out how to enable cyber security
defenders with cutting edge capabilities while ensuring attackers
can't use them for harm.
He called it, which is so it's the
same job, he's couching it as cyber security
that I think somehow his lawyers told me,
well, if you just say it's for cyber
security.
And he also said it's a stressful job.
And whoever gets hired will jump into the
deep end pretty much immediately.
Here's the I think these people may have
already had a preview of the report as
well.
That includes some disturbing conversations involving violence and
sex.
It is role play that is interaction about
harming somebody else, physically hurting them, torturing them.
Psychologist Scott Collins is chief medical officer at
Aura and a father of two teenagers.
It's part of natural development to be curious
about sexuality and things.
But learning about sexual interactions from a chatbot
instead of a trusted adult is problematic.
And chatbots are designed to agree with users,
says pediatrician Dr. Jason Nagata.
So even if a child or teenager is
putting in sexual content or violent content, I
do think that the default of AI is
to engage with it and to reinforce it.
Nagata researches digital media used by teens at
the University of California, San Francisco.
He says spending a lot of time with
chatbots also prevents teenagers from learning important social
skills like empathy, reading body language and negotiating
differences.
When you're only or exclusively interacting with computers
who are agreeing with you, then you don't
get to develop those skills.
And studies show that chatbots can pose risks
to vulnerable individuals.
At least a couple of adolescents have died
by suicide after prolonged interactions with chatbots.
I'm going to bet they're going to hide
behind a EULA.
They're going to say, well, look, there's a
EULA.
You get the app.
It says, talk to your parents.
You didn't talk to your parents.
It's your parents fault.
In fact, I would say we'll see parents
go to jail for their children committing suicide
thanks to a chatbot.
Isn't that the Silicon Valley model?
Well, that is the model.
But the EULAs don't apply in certain situations
that are illegal.
Well, what's illegal about it?
Well, it's like if somebody's talked into committing
suicide, I mean, it's like signing agreements with,
you know, you meet somebody and it just
is, I can't express the legality aspect of
it, but I'm sure one of our lawyers
out there can say why EULA won't protect
them.
Well, we'll have to wait for Rob.
And I wish they would just go away
anyway.
It's like the EULA to me is the
same as the liability constraints on vaccines.
If the EULA went away, then we wouldn't
be able to say put a bikini on
her.
You're going to ruin the whole gig, man.
I don't think that would change the bikini
thing.
Bikini things.
I'm going to have to send you a
few so your algo can get into it.
It's crazy.
Well, you still haven't gotten into the fat
JD Vance video.
I did because you sent it to me.
Now I'm seeing fat JD.
I sent a couple on, but they're just
not enough.
You have to get on the, you know,
where you're getting a lot of them.
So here's something I can get behind.
AI haters, that would be me, are building
tar pits to trap and trick AI scrapers.
So this, uh, this, what's an AI scraper?
Well, the AI is getting all of its
information by scraping the web.
Remember, there's an, there's an unwritten contract, John.
That's a little late in the game to
do this, to try to stop it.
Oh, but I mean, we look at podcast
index.
Oh man.
That thing's getting hit millions of times an
hour by AI bots.
All trying to get information, just scrape stuff.
Oh, it's, it's, if you're running a website,
if people run their own website, it can
cost you easily 40, $50 a month more
because, just because of all the stuff that
the AI scrape bots are doing.
So this, yes.
Oh, oh, it's crazy.
And they ignore robots.txt. Of course.
Why would you pay attention to that?
No, they ignore that.
Gentleman's agreement.
No, there's no gentleman's agreement.
So this thing is called Nepenthes.
N-E-P-E-N-T-E-S.
Named after the Nepenthe.
Nepenthe.
Yeah.
It's a carnivorous plant.
There used to be a winery called Nepenthes.
So the way it works is, it traps
the AI crawlers and sends it on like
an infinite maze of static files where there's
no exit.
So they just get stuck going from one
file to the other file.
And it's all nonsense.
It's just all babble.
All kind of just crap that's in there.
So they're hoping to poison the AI.
Ooh.
Yeah, I like it.
That's cute.
Yeah, you would like it.
I love this kind of stuff.
Yeah, of course.
These guys are ruining everything.
They're ruining the whole business model of the
internet.
I don't understand how Google is going to
do it.
I've been using Gemini for research.
And you ask it a question, it gives
you the answer.
It doesn't credit me with...
It doesn't credit who came up with...
Right, this came up with your use of
the term...
Limbic capitalism.
Limbic capitalism was stolen.
Well, the bot gave it to me.
I said the bot stole it.
And then you stole it from the bot.
And it's now two steps removed from its
origin.
And if it wasn't for our producers griping
and moaning and groaning and calling you out,
we would never know.
They weren't calling me out because I said
I got it from Gemini.
I didn't say I came up with it
myself.
Right, but they were calling you out because
they hate you.
David...
Well, they can get in line behind you.
David Courtright, who wrote The Age of Addiction.
So, but my point is the way the
web...
The web, the World Wide Web, W3, dub,
dub, dub.
The way that worked is you write on
your WordPress or on your Substack or wherever.
Your blog.
On your, you know, maybe you have a
slick site.
And you do SEO and SEO gets you
into higher rankings.
And maybe you buy some traffic.
You know, there's a whole economy around this.
And then you've got ads and you buy
those ads from Google.
So, Google sends you traffic.
You get traffic.
You get, you know, two pennies for each
time somebody sees an ad.
Oh, that's even, that's gone now.
Maybe you get five cents.
Someone clicks on the ad.
That's now gone.
There's no, you know, of course, people always
continue to publish.
But the whole economy of that system seems
broken to me.
Or do you view it differently?
I think it's broken too.
I view it, but I still view it
differently.
Okay.
But I think it's totally broken.
And I don't think anyone's come to the
realization how broken it is yet.
I mean, the collapse is before us.
It's in advance.
I mean, Google's already managed to get out
of the way.
I mean, they've moved to data selling and
they've moved to Waymo.
They get automated cars.
I mean, Google has gotten, as you can
tell by the price of their stock, which
has increased considerably, is that they have kind
of gotten out of the way of it
because they know what's going to happen.
And it's going to pull the rug right
out from under.
Search is dead.
Well, that's the money.
Advertising.
I just don't get it.
I think they're going to fill it up
with people paying 20 bucks a month for
something that costs them 40.
It's not tenable.
I agree with that.
But I'm not in, I have mixed feelings
about it's a value.
You, you don't.
No, no, I see value in search and
research.
I can tell you.
Yeah, you.
Search and research.
I think that is very valuable for that
because.
Gemini doesn't give you footnotes when I use
perplexity.
But forget the footnotes.
Forget the footnotes.
It's giving you information.
Sometimes Gemini says, click here for sources.
You can request the sources.
Who does that?
You and I, maybe.
But other people like, just give me the
answer.
They're not interested in clicking on someone's website
when you already have the answer.
So, you know.
Well, I, you know, I have to back
you up because of the, of my experience.
Because I look at numbers that we do
with a newsletter and I can put a
link to something.
Sell the link.
You got to go look at this, blah,
blah, blah, blah, blah.
You do this and that.
You check it out and here's the link.
And then, so I look at the results
after a couple of weeks of the people
that clicked on the link that I was.
Nobody.
Insisting.
Well, not nobody.
But the number is, after selling it.
I mean, it's not just a rando link
just sitting there where you'd have to aggressively.
You've already, you've already told them what's behind
the link, basically.
Not necessarily.
But it's like, even if I tell them
or I don't tell them, it doesn't make
any difference.
The number of people that click on the
links is around 10% max.
Yeah, that's pretty low.
Well, it's the same thing when people say,
well, it's like, it's like everything.
It's like Instagram, you know, or people sending
me, oh, look at this.
And they send me a screenshot.
Well, what good is that?
It's a screenshot of some article you got
somewhere and you didn't give me the link
to go read the article.
I've complained about this in the past before
AI came up.
And that's what Instagram is.
Oh, look at this story.
Then it's a screenshot of a story with
no link.
I think, can you even put links in
Instagram?
Link in bio.
I mean, you can't, you can't even put
a link to a story.
You can't even put a link.
You can't.
I don't think you can even put it.
Well, I guess you can't.
Not an Instagram.
You can't put a link in.
This is all photos.
So they're ruining the web, man.
As opposed to what?
Well, keeping the vibe alive.
Given if it's an opportunity to contribute to
the economy of the internet.
Well, again, I see things more positively about
this AI than you do.
From what perspective?
That Adam Carolla created podcasting?
That's positive.
Tom Green?
Tom Green.
Not Adam Carolla.
Tom Green.
Seriously, from what perspective do you see it
positive?
Well, you yourself use it for research.
It's very, it shortens the time to develop
material.
Agreed.
Agreed.
But the material is a positive thing.
I mean, it's a time because time is
money.
Right.
But people will stop creating stuff if they
can't make money off of it.
You think people just can tell, well, I'm
not making money anymore.
I'll just keep doing it.
Yeah.
And that's a tough question.
Well, we have more art than we used
to have.
And it's all AI.
Yeah.
Oh, the quality of the art at end
of show is just so amazing.
Well, we had, there has been, we have
less moments of no good art than we
used to.
No, less moments of, of acceptable art.
Right.
It's acceptable.
We accept it.
But it's, it's all kind of meh.
You know, it's like the same, same thing
about songs.
It's fun.
It's okay.
The songs, I'm not, you know, I'm getting
less, I have to say this.
I'm getting a little fatigued, which is a
code word, I guess, but a little fatigued
with the songs.
There's a kind of a sameness to them.
I'm beginning to dislike.
Yeah.
I mean, a good classic Broadway hit is
in there, but it's one song.
There's nothing outside of that same style and
almost the same singer.
And, and, uh, it's too structured.
Uh, it's something tedious about it.
And I can't put my finger on why,
cause it's, it's, it's good quality.
It's because it's, there's no soul.
It's soulless.
There is this, there, there is, I can't,
there is, well, it's naturally soulless because it's
done by a machine.
Right.
Uh, so it, so that might be reflected,
but that could also be in your own
mind that it's soulless because, because, you know,
it's being done by a computer does, it
has to be soulless.
And so you're saying it's soulless when it
could be soulful.
Yeah.
But I mean, yeah, it just, it just
doesn't, I just don't get as much.
It's, it's joyless.
How about that?
Joyless.
There's no joy.
It's like, yeah, it's a good piece of
art.
Oh, it's a good song, but it has
no joy.
I'm not jumping up and down and want
to go play it in my car.
Ah, now you, now you're talking.
Yeah.
Whereas there's end of show mixes that I
could play over and over again.
Like, you know, just great stuff that Chris
Wilson did or secret agent Paul.
I mean, fantastic.
Just beautiful.
And those guys burn out.
Computers don't.
You know why?
Cause they're not making any money on it.
That's why we need to cut them in
on the deal.
Yeah, exactly.
Now you're thinking like a Silicon Valley guy
that we are Silicon Valley guys.
We've been at all along.
But since you bring up art now is
a perfect time to thank you for your
courage and say in the morning to you,
the man who put the C in CBS's.
I am you say hello to my friend
on the other end.
The one, the only Mr. Subs
in the water in the names of nights
out there in the morning.
There we go.
Well, there's people hung over 1,410.
That's about 400 lower than we should be
having.
I don't know, man.
We're going down the tubes.
No, it's a day off.
This is a, we were working on a,
people should note this.
We're working on a holiday.
This is a holiday.
Nobody else is working today.
Yeah.
I went to bed early.
I didn't even see the fact that you
got that.
The fact that Tony Dupal or Google or
whatever his name is, I can never get
it quite straight.
Couple.
I forget his name.
Couple couple that fact that that guy was
did a video that I guess maybe he
did it a month ago, but whatever the
case is, he likes, he's working to cope
on a holiday, which is unusual for anybody
in the media to be working on a
holiday.
They're all off.
It's all the B and C teams, the
people that want to hopefully they can move
up so they can take the day off
someday.
Yeah, exactly.
Exactly.
Right.
Exactly.
Right.
And why, why did, what's wrong with working
on a holiday?
I've always enjoyed working on holidays.
Well, it's because you don't celebrate holidays on
the holidays.
You celebrate it on a different day.
That's your trick.
You see, you won't, you won't work on
the days when you actually celebrate Christmas or
Thanksgiving or Easter, which has been moved.
I hear Mimi has the flu.
She sees that.
Yeah.
She ended up with the same flu.
I think you have or had, although I
told her that you had it and she
goes, what?
I said, yeah.
I said, Adam, and I, I've always said
this.
Adam is, has the ability, no matter how
sick he is to always sound like his
same old, same old, maybe a little more
grumpy, but it takes some revelation to get
to that.
Grumpy.
I haven't heard that term in a long
time.
But, but he sounds exactly, he could be
on his deathbed and he'd sound exactly like
this.
Yeah.
Unfortunately, now that I'm a little bit better,
I've still been sneezing a lot during the
show on mute.
Good.
I can't do the Alex Jones voice as
it's gone.
You did it earlier before the show.
I heard you.
It didn't sound like, it didn't.
It sounded pretty damn good.
I was not happy with it.
I was not happy.
You know, maybe I should play these bonus
clips here because ABC got a deal.
ABC got an awesome deal with the big
pharma.
I have nothing but ABC clips about the
flu.
It's like they're just all over it.
Listen to this.
Tonight, a sharp rise in flu cases, raising
alarm among medical experts.
In just one week, according to CDC data,
flu-related illnesses jumping more than 60%
from 4.6 million to 7.5 million.
Hospitalizations also spiking more than 60% from
49,000 to 81,000.
And more than 1,200 deaths have been
reported.
29 states now reporting very high or high
rates of illness, including New York, which just
reported its most ever cases in a week.
Some schools closing early for the holiday break
due to widespread illness.
We had about an hour where the phone
was just ringing off the wall.
And wow, they still have phones on the
wall like you.
Parents calling kids in sick.
I don't have a phone on the wall.
I thought you had a phone on the
wall.
I do not have a phone on the
wall.
That was a mean thing to say.
I used to have one that had a
crank on the side.
You remember that?
Remember that phone?
Yeah, I remember that phone.
I always thought you had a phone on
the wall.
I'm not trying to be mean.
When I was a kid, my parents had
a phone on the wall.
Yes, I had a phone on the wall,
but apparently so did New York school districts.
Parents calling kids in sick.
CDC data showing last year's child flu deaths
reached their highest level since the 2009 swine
flu pandemic.
Experts say vaccination rates among kids, down 10
% compared to before the pandemic, are partially
to blame.
The concern is the amount of patients presenting.
That can put strain on the hospital system,
limit resources, and treating the complications can become
even more difficult.
The CDC says the bulk of cases are
linked to a new variant called Subclade K,
which has mutations that appear to have resulted
in a mismatch with this year's flu vaccine.
Oh no, the flu vaccine is no good.
With the CDC's data is released on a
delay, that means these latest figures are from
the week before Christmas.
So current flu levels are likely even higher.
So with all of their data and all
of their magic science, they mismatched the flu
this year.
But it's not just flu.
If you were in Newark, be careful.
The New Jersey Health Department says some travelers
who passed through Newark Liberty International Airport may
have been exposed to measles.
A passenger with the disease was at the
airport on Friday, December 12th.
The person was in terminals B and C
all day.
Officials are trying to track down people.
What was he doing?
What was the traveler doing in terminals B
and C all day?
Didn't they fly somewhere?
Nice catch.
This is bullcrap.
Are they somehow in two terminals at the
same time all day?
All day.
This is bullcrap.
Officials are trying to track down people who
were likely exposed.
They also suggest...
We're going to call everybody who was likely
exposed.
Those who have not been vaccinated to get
an MMR shot.
MMR. Measles is highly contagious to those who
have not been vaccinated.
So that was ABC and then here's my
final...
Wait, stop.
Did you catch that little bit at the
end?
It's highly contagious to people who are not
vaccinated.
Really?
What if you've had the measles?
Measles is highly contagious to those who have
not been vaccinated.
Oh yeah.
It's also not contagious to people who have
had it.
Yeah.
No, but this is...
They got a big buy.
Yeah, I think you're right.
For the MMR and here's the final one.
Also ABC.
The new warning from health officials about the
rise in flu illnesses across the country.
The CDC just releasing new data today.
Reporting more than 4 million new cases in
just the last week.
Yeah.
The agency says more than two dozen states
are reporting a high number of cases.
That includes Pennsylvania as well as New Jersey.
How high?
Action News reporter Maggie Kent live for us
at Belmont Plateau with advice from doctors.
Maggie.
Yeah.
We spoke to a couple of doctors today,
Gray and Sarah.
And they say, listen, something is going around.
You talk to anyone.
They probably know someone who is sick right
about now.
And it's kind of a triple threat here.
They're seeing cases of flu, COVID, and neurovirus.
I think she says neurovirus.
Penural.
Yeah.
Wait, listen, listen.
Is it too late to get a flu
or COVID vaccine at this...
Oh, I'm sure it's not.
...point in the season?
Absolutely not.
And we encourage you to talk to your
doctor.
Wait, stop, stop, stop the clip.
So they've already said that the flu vaccine
doesn't include this flu, this influenza A that's
going around that Mimi has, that you have,
that a bunch of people have.
It's not in the shot, but it's not
too late to get the shot.
Well, but you want to get the shot
against COVID and you want to get the
MMR for the measles, even though the measles
isn't in this report.
It's some mystical neurovirus.
But if you back it up, these specifically
said, should we go out and get a
flu shot?
The flu shot is included in that.
Let's listen.
That includes Pennsylvania as well as New Jersey.
Action News reporter Maggie Kent live for us
at Belmont Plateau with advice from doctors.
Maggie.
Yeah, we spoke to a couple of doctors
today, Gray and Sarah, and they say, listen,
something is going around.
You talk to anyone, they probably know someone
who is sick right about now.
And it's kind of a triple threat here.
They're seeing cases of flu, COVID and neurovirus.
Is it too late to get a flu
or COVID vaccine...
You're right, you nailed it.
...at this point in the season?
Absolutely not.
And we encourage you to talk to your
doctor.
Getting the flu vaccine is the single most
greatest thing that someone can do.
It's the single most greatest thing you can
do in the universe is getting your vaccine.
They just said it doesn't work.
Here's another really easy thing that you can
do.
Dr. Wadlaw is stressing soap and water...
Dr. Wadville.
I gotta tell you.
Listen to what...
We're never gonna get to...
Dr. Wadville.
Hey, I got a million of them.
Here's another really easy thing that you can
do.
Dr. Wadlaw is stressing soap and water is
best here when it comes to keeping your
hands clean because neurovirus does not...
She says neurovirus.
I'm telling you.
What is this?
Is this some new thing they're trying to
slip into the public consciousness?
Neurovirus?
No, not neural, but neuro.
Neuro, not noro.
Not noro, because it's norovirus.
Noro, oh, norovirus.
She's saying neuro.
Listen closely.
And water is best here when it comes
to keeping your hands clean because neurovirus does
not respond to hand sanitizers.
So wash your hands often.
She's saying neuro.
I like neural even better.
Neurovirus.
You get...
Neural.
Neural is not noro.
It's near neural.
It's neuro O'Donnell.
Whatever.
You're right.
There's somebody dropped a ton of money.
Paid.
They got paid to do this crap.
And then they're promoting the...
In the same report, they say the flu
vaccine doesn't work.
This is an offshoot.
And everyone's getting sick from it.
But get the shot anyway.
Give me a break.
It's fantastic.
These people are shameless.
So y'all should be listening to this
on a modern podcast app, which you can
get at podcastapps.com.
Tomorrow on the Podcasting 2.0 podcast, we'll
have young Mitch.
We'll be on the talk about Podverse 2
.0, which is supposed to just be dynamite.
So I don't know when it's being released,
but you'll be notified for an upgrade.
Don't we already know about Podcasting 2.0?
Do we already know about it?
No, what's he going to tell us?
Oh, no, about Podverse, the new app.
Oh, the new Podverse.
Yeah, the new...
Everyone's excited about the new Podverse.
Yeah.
I'm just telling you what's going on.
You already know what is in there.
What's so special?
I don't actually.
I've just...
He posts a lot on our Mastodon about
it.
And he's doing a lot of stuff.
You know, the big thing...
Okay, so here's the big thing that everyone
wants to move towards.
This is an interesting conundrum.
So everyone is like, well, we need to
do video.
We need to do video.
We should be doing video.
We should be doing video.
Let's do video.
And they're trying to sneak in that it
should be HLS video.
Why?
I'm going to tell you why.
So HLS is a streaming protocol.
It's actually developed by Apple.
And when you...
So, you know, podcasting used to be...
It automatically downloads everything for you and then
you just play it.
It's on your device.
That is pretty much not needed anymore unless
you're getting on an airplane.
Even then, do you really need it?
Because you can just click on it.
You don't need to download it first.
And it just plays because of bandwidth.
And podcasting was originally developed as a work
around a bandwidth constraint.
So HLS video, you won't be downloading, you
know, two gigabytes of a video episode.
It'll just give you what you need at
that moment.
Now, the podcast industrial complex wants this because
they also want it for MP3s.
Why, you ask?
Yeah, why?
Because then for the first time, we can
actually show advertisers the amount of time someone
listened if they actually heard their ad.
Because it will be...
Okay, I'm still listening, but now I'm wondering
how does that work?
Well, because it's a streaming protocol.
So if you're listening to minute 35, then
the log file shows that you are listening
to minute 35 as we stream that to
you.
And when you stop at minute 47, which
is right before an ad break, we can
see that you didn't listen to the ads.
Do you see the difference?
When you download a podcast, they have no
idea if you heard the ad.
They just saw you got a download.
So now they're in this conundrum because they
desperately want to be able to show advertisers.
But wait, I appreciate the desire to show
these advertisers or whatever, because the advertisers are
so important.
They run everything, so we have to do
that.
But how many people are going to adopt
pure streaming as opposed to download and play?
It would be completely seamless to you because
people don't even know that it's downloading.
People don't even know that it's an...
Podcasters don't even know that it's an RSS
feed.
Oh, I just use rss.com or Buzzsprout
because they're my distributor.
They distribute it everywhere.
They have no idea how it works.
So they don't care.
Listeners don't care.
You just hit the play button.
It shows up in your app.
You hit the play button.
No different from a modern podcast app.
You get the bat signal.
It says no agenda show live.
You hit it.
You're streaming, right?
So they don't know the difference.
The problem is they all want to move
towards this because the advertising industry wants it,
but nobody really wants to do it because
then we'll find out that no one's actually
listening to these podcasts.
They're just being downloaded.
Yes, and they've been reporting download numbers for
20 years and it's going to be, oh,
oh, oh, I'm sorry.
People don't actually hear the ads.
That's the problem, which is exactly why we
use...
No, that's why you use...
I was wondering why you use the word
at the beginning of this little presentation, the
word conundrum.
Yes.
And that is indeed a conundrum.
It is a big conundrum.
Exactly.
Because the industry wants it, but they don't
really want it.
And so all eyes on Apple because Apple
doesn't support HLS in their podcast app.
But if they do, then everyone will be
doing HLS and you're going to see the
podcast spectrum go from four and a half
million to two.
Very quickly because the money will go away.
Because of course...
What little money there is.
Well, they say it's 2.6 billion.
Exactly.
Okay.
That's just America.
That's just America.
So we don't...
Homie don't play that game.
Exactly.
We don't play that.
We have value for value.
The only way we stay alive is if
you continue to support us with your time,
your talent, and your treasure.
One of those three T's is indeed the
artwork, which we are appreciative of, even though,
you know, I feel it's diminished.
Even though one of the two of us
hates it.
I've never said I hated it, but okay.
Well, what happens now is Darren O...
You know, why don't we just create a
website called Darren O'Neill's Art and just
have him upload the...
Don't even make it public.
Just email it to us, Darren.
Because he's the only one that gets some
decent results out of it, it seems.
Because we've chosen...
Well, if you notice you got some very...
You got a very interesting result in his
one, the Happy New Year one, that says,
Happy New Year.
Welcome to 2005 or whatever it is.
Did you notice that?
No, I'm looking at the one...
First, I'm looking at the one from episode
1829, which we titled Zummerwaffen.
And that is...
It wasn't necessarily a Happy New Year's type
of artwork.
Of course, we were a few days away
from the changing of the year.
This was the kind of anarchist piece, which
I'm surprised you allowed it because when you
really look at it, it's kind of gruesome.
You got a skull in there and...
Yeah, well, it was all...
It was playful.
It was gruesome, but playful.
It was complicated.
Yeah, you're probably right.
I probably should have vetoed it because of
the gruesome.
But it was playful.
It didn't bother me.
For some reason, the gruesomeness did not come
to the fore.
So, congratulations once again, Darren O'Neill.
And let's just take a look at the
other...
at noagendaartgenerator.com.
Well, look at the one where he did
Goodbye 2005.
Is it a new one?
No, it came in the same batch.
Oh, okay.
I see his here.
Goodbye 2005.
Let's see.
I don't see it.
Another problem.
It's just so much.
It's just...
I give you that one.
It's just colors swimming before my eyes.
Okay, what's in the current first page...
It's by Darren.
So, that's easier to search.
It's by Darren.
Yeah, okay.
Let me just...
Let me search Darren.
That's probably easier.
Okay.
Darren O'Neill.
I'll be all right.
I'm looking for Goodbye 2005.
Both fireworks.
It says, Bye.
Bye 2005.
Yes, I see it.
Bye 2005.
Okay, yeah.
Well, and he uploaded it anyway.
How he didn't catch that was because he
didn't see it.
He saw...
He knows what he put in and then
he just posted it.
So, this is part of the problem.
Yeah.
This is junk being posted.
Even by the top guy, Darren O'Neill
is posting garbage.
This should have never been posted.
You're right.
People, if it's garbage, don't post it.
But, of course, everyone...
Oh, this is great.
This is a great piece.
Oh, it's fantastic.
The boys will love it.
It's ruining everything.
This show is ending.
We're not going to make another year, let
alone four more.
This is...
We're going down, man.
We're playing AI clips.
We've got stupid AI art.
We got end of show mixes that are
just sound formula AI.
You know, why don't we just make...
If they could make us AI, I would
be all for it.
Now, look at this.
I'll just go off and do a podcast
with Pastor Jimmy, who loves me.
Look at the pieces that just came in,
in the second row down or so.
You got the cartoon with the baby and
the AI called Crying Kids by Darren O
'Neill.
Where did that model come from?
This is a totally different cartoon style.
It's also, I see it on his other
pieces.
Yeah, bikini.
Completely new cartoon style.
Of course, if you notice the woman, this
is another example of putting garbage up that
Darren should not post.
The woman has three arms.
Which one is that?
I don't see three arms.
Crying Kid.
Oh, she does have three arms.
You're right.
That is bad.
Yeah, that's just...
Oh, I did it.
It gave me a prompt.
All right, I'm good.
They'll choose me anyway.
Yeah, yeah, exactly.
Well, that's like MVP who's doing the end
of show mix.
It's like, man, I should make...
Can't I make them three or four minutes?
No, it's hard to listen to a minute
and a half.
Yeah, but listen to this.
It's really good.
No, it's not.
It's not.
Nothing is good for four minutes as an
end of show mix.
None of it.
Maybe we should just stop with the end
of show mix.
How about that?
We stop the end of show mix.
Yeah, this would hurt your feelings.
No, no, no, no.
It's your...
You do it.
You're controlling it.
You're the producer of the end of show
mixes.
No, I'm the one complaining about it.
I'd be happy not to do it.
Well, as any producer would do.
This is like Brunetti.
He complains about the tips.
Remember how this started.
This started with we do an end of
show clip.
And it would be a longer clip.
It was actually in the beginning.
Because I went back and checked.
It would be like sometimes a four, five,
six minute clip.
It was interesting to listen to.
And then people started sending these...
Oh, that lasted no very...
That was short-lived.
Because people started sending things they produced.
And then I remember you saying, I really
like it.
Because it's kind of a nice way.
The show ends and you got something to
listen to.
And now it's just become painful.
So why don't we just stop that and
just have Darren do the art.
And just give him a...
Change the credit every time.
It's easier.
Or maybe you just ask him what model
he's using.
And you do the art.
You're an artist.
I'm not gonna...
Well, he's already showed me a lot of
stuff that is quite interesting.
But he spends...
The difference is time.
No, it's just run its course.
Well, the album art hasn't run its course.
Because we can't get away from that.
That's from the beginning.
Right.
But it's all Darren.
Well, you know, the thing about...
We got three people.
Wait.
Do you remember the era of Martin JJ?
Yes.
Martin JJ was dominating the art.
Yeah.
For months and months and months.
And he was just winning everything like Darren's
doing.
And he just stood up and said, I
quit.
Yeah.
I've been winning too much art.
What he did is he fell on his
sword.
Yeah, but he's trying to come back and
he's not done.
He hasn't been able to do it.
Well, this is like anything else.
If you're in a groove and you take
some time off, the groove is gone.
And you never come back.
I mean, we had a lot of guys
that were really outstanding.
Pettigrew is a good example.
But he can't listen to the show.
Nick the Rat comes and goes.
But maybe, Darren, I'm not saying he should
yet.
But now that I've seen these two pieces
of slop, the 2005 thing, and the woman
with three arms and he's posting them, maybe
he should reconsider and maybe only produce one
or two pieces.
But then look at his bitch and moan
with the Canada flag and the two buttons.
I mean, that is Darren.
That's a good piece.
Where's the bitch and moan?
Oh, that's a great piece.
So Darren O'Neill, we should just email
it to us, Darren.
It's easier.
Then we'll have to discuss it.
Just like, oh, Darren's great.
Boost him on his show.
But I mean, AI is ruining my life.
It's not ruining your life.
More than you know.
Everything.
But people email me entire AI.
Oh, I've done some research.
And don't send me the output of Chad
GPT.
Don't send me the output of your Chad
GPT.
Don't.
Just don't.
With your em dashes?
No.
No.
No, please don't.
No, it's everyone.
No, Darren has to keep doing this until
somebody else comes along.
Yeah, well, OK, we'll see.
Jeffrey Ray is very competitive.
Yeah, but he has bad models.
His models aren't always good.
And Blue Acorn sometimes good.
Anyway, let us thank the people who also
matter.
I wouldn't say only matter, but also matter.
What happened?
All of a sudden, people supported us.
This was nice.
At the end of the year, they're looking
at their bank.
Oh, you know, this time at the end
of the year, let's give them some support.
Oh, so Sunday will suck.
Is that what you're saying?
Well, we'll find out, won't we?
But the point is, is that it seems
like there was a scramble.
Yeah.
At the end to help us to bring
the show back up to speed.
Of course, the books have already been closed.
So this goes in the next year, which
is fine with me.
But I like it.
I'm not complaining.
That's for sure.
I appreciate it.
And it's a hey, looking at the time,
maybe we should just do all the donations
in this segment.
We're running behind.
All right, let's do it.
All right.
Let's start then with Dame Mama Khan from
Sylvania, Ohio.
Fifteen hundred dollars.
Thank you very much.
A very nice way to start off the
new year.
And here is her note, a handwritten note.
Merry Christmas.
Happy New Year to John and Adam and
the Noah agenda nation.
Karma all around.
Dame Mama Khan, as in Decepticons.
P.S. If gold and silver are rising,
what is dropping?
Oh, well, that's an easy one.
The value of your money.
Your actual fiat paper money is devaluing.
That's the answer.
Here's your karma, Dame Mama Khan.
You've got karma.
Here we go to R.S. Bagwell.
Mr. Bagwell in Louisville, Kentucky.
One, two, three, four, five, six.
One thousand two hundred thirty four dollars.
This is the best donation number you can
come up with.
Beautiful number.
Beautiful number.
Gentlemen, here is my twenty twenty five donation.
All I request is jobs, karma.
The original, the original jobs coming, not the
one with Trump.
Karma continues to come through for me because
of this.
I'm able to continue my support of the
best podcast in the universe.
Cheers, he writes.
R.S. Bagwell, good for him.
Jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs.
Let's vote for jobs.
Now talking of another great note here from
Little John's Candies.
No, it's not from Christopher.
It's from Little John's Candies this time from
Somerset, California.
Eleven hundred and thirty one dollars and 30
cents with a note.
And he says, John, I'm like, I'm chopped
liver.
This is not my donation.
This is the donation from the one hundred
plus producers that used I.T.M. ten
plus ten at Little John's Candies dot com.
See email for detailed list of producers.
Oh, I didn't get a detailed list of
producers.
Did you?
No, I didn't.
I didn't notice.
Were we supposed to thank them all individually?
No, of course not.
They all bought boxes of candy.
What exactly?
This is an interesting model that has kind
of appeared here from Little John's.
Others have done it, but I don't think
ever to this extent.
This is like value for value plugging.
I mean, what exactly do we call it?
It is very similar to No Agenda Shop.
Yeah.
I don't know if they're still alive.
No.
It's a tough, tough business.
Doing merch.
Merch.
It sucks, man.
Merch is tough.
It's tough.
That's why we don't do it.
That's right.
I mean, I think we tried it for
one minute.
Nick Fuentes does his merch.
Well, a lot of guys are a lot
of I don't want to Nick's not an
amateur by any means.
He's very professional.
But at the same time, I think a
lot of people, especially podcasters, are naive about
the merch.
They think, don't you think?
Because we right away saw this as a
loser.
We're not going to do that.
We can't do that.
You got to coordinate it.
You got to design it.
You got to print it.
You got to, you know, if you're set
up to print T-shirts, maybe if you
have like the T-shirt spinner at your
house there, you can stamp out some T
-shirts.
Then you don't have any of that stuff.
So it's like merch is like.
Merch.
Merch.
Merch.
No good.
All right.
You're up next.
This is good.
A lot of these are all Peace Prize
winners, too.
Yes.
We ended up the year with a lot
of them.
Not that we do.
We don't do merch.
We just do Peace Prizes and PhDs.
Yeah.
It's a version of merch.
Well, it's more of a premium, I'd call
it.
Premium.
Sir Eric is naked.
It's not merch because it's not taxed.
Ah, there you go.
That's another thing.
Yeah.
When you do merch, you got to deal
with taxation.
And every state's got its own.
No, I hate that.
That's no good.
Who wants to do it?
Sir Eric is naked.
Well, no, that's not true.
All the podcasters think it's a good idea.
Sir Eric is naked and he's in South
Ogden, Utah.
And he came in with a thousand dollars.
Wow.
Thirty and twenty-six cents.
One, oh, three, oh, two, six.
Happy New Year to the best podcasts in
the universe.
Hopefully, my $1,030.26, which is 30
.26, covers the PayPal fees.
Ah, got it.
That's a lot.
15 cents if you send a check.
V4V came in time for the coveted International
Peace Prize.
All right, good for him.
No jingles.
All the best.
Sir Eric is naked.
All right.
I don't know why he's naked.
No, he is Sir Eric and he's naked.
That's fine by me.
Jermaine C is not naked.
He's in O'Fallon, Missouri.
Sends us $1,000 and a hilarious note.
Two pages from the desk of Jermaine C.
Night.
Oh, look at this.
This is in pen and I don't think
I can read this whole thing.
In the morning to both of you magnificent
bastards of media secret messaging decoders.
I want to start off by saying because
of you two, I have further become more
of an anomaly.
The 18 plus years of work you guys
have done has caused me to further unlock
the mental shackles and bindings that I have
been brainwashed into applying or manipulated.
He crossed that out.
Into applying onto myself.
In order to not make this letter too
long, which it already is, it's two full
pages.
I'll just go over the bullet points of
the most important parts.
Origin to start listening to the show in
the late 2000s.
Back around the time Adam made a guest
appearance on Cranky Geeks.
Which never, which Adam, I was never on
Cranky Geeks.
Yes, you were.
I was.
The original Cranky Geeks when Ziff was doing
it.
Oh, one time, one time at your studio.
One time.
It was years.
It was in the 90s.
It was years before we started this show.
Wow.
I don't even think it was pre-MeVeo
or pre-pod show.
Really?
Yeah, it was when you were.
Why was I on?
You were in town or something somehow.
I don't know how you even got on
the show.
I don't think it was that long ago.
It was a long time ago because it
was in the studio at the Ziff studios.
Yeah.
Well, he says Adam kept making jokes about
Johnny Ives voice.
I'm Johnny Ive.
I've created the iPhone.
I'm Johnny Ive.
I remember that.
I became hooked since.
Have you heard my Alex Jones?
Yeah, we got all the documents.
Candace, I love you.
You're wrong.
You're wrong.
It's all wrong.
The elites have gotten control of you.
I listened to the show on and off.
You know what?
I think it's still good if you slowed
it down just a little bit.
All right.
I think your cadence is off, but I
think the voice is still solid.
We got a really important emergency broadcast.
That's perfect.
That's terrific.
It's an emergency broadcast.
We got the John C.
Dvorak from the very famous No Agenda show.
As you're speeding up again.
Yeah, you're right.
Okay, I'll work on it.
As I listen to the show off and
on up until the end of Trump's first
term, shit was hitting the fan too hard
for me.
And I need to disconnect from it all
and refocus on my immediate priorities, mainly getting
through engineering school.
Then he has covades, he says.
Long story short, I am growing prouder by
the day, knowing that I wasn't the only
one to reach the same conclusion that the
VAX, aka the curse, was total bullcrap.
I was still in California, struggling through engineering
school.
Okay, I'm going to go down a little
bit.
Go down a lot.
Yeah, I'm going to do something different from
my request if it's okay with you guys.
I don't need karma because I don't believe
in it.
I don't need jobs karma because I already
got one.
I don't need house karma either because I
have one of those as well.
The only thing I could use is some
relationship assistance.
It's kind of lonely up here on the
top of my personal peak of success.
Jingles, 70s rock version of 999.
I have a metal version.
I don't, I don't really, I don't remember
a 70s rock version.
Uh, writing, writing up fake news.
What was that?
I have no idea.
Um, wait, maybe.
These are mysterious.
Fake, fake news jingle.
Is there a fake news jingle?
No, not that I know of.
Uh, yeah, we've had, uh, well, I'll play
one for you.
Lesser played Pastor Manning.
If you have Manning calling Trump a chump,
please use that.
No, we'll do a money shot.
Night name, night name, night, no name, nobody.
So he will be knighted as night, no
name, nobody.
And thank you.
I want to play a little bit of
this 999 metal version.
See if that's what you're looking for.
Starts here, I think.
Yeah, yeah, that's it.
That's the one.
That's the ticket.
That's better than the end of show mixes.
Writing up some fake news.
Trying to get cheap clicks and cop-paid
views.
Writing up some fake news.
Oh, it's propaganda time.
That's a show-off money shot.
Oh, Jesus.
Look at that.
That's a money shot.
Karen Conway in a money shot.
There you go.
There you go.
Fake news jingles better than the AI stuff
that we're getting.
That is my point.
Today, we're just going to end the show.
We're just going to end it.
No end of show mixes.
No, you got stuff planned.
I heard the clips.
It's no good.
It's okay, but it's...
I'm getting disturbed by this.
What do you mean?
Well, I mean, at the end of show
little songs, there was always some killers in
there that were once in a while.
When's the last killer you remember?
I thought the No Agenda Christmas or whatever
it was from somebody.
Darren O'Neill.
Yeah, a couple of two, three shows ago.
It was outstanding.
It was Darren O'Neill.
Yeah, we should just make him a partner.
And bring Larry in the deal too.
He is a partner.
We don't have to make him one.
Bring Larry in on the deal.
It's all good.
You're up.
You're up.
I know I'm up.
I closed the spreadsheet by accident.
Sir Shug.
Hey.
In Kamas, Washington.
He came in with 616.
And he said...
He's faux diddly.
ITM, Adam and John, happy new year to
you.
The donation of 616 brings me to another
knighthood, which is to be a switcheroo given
to my smoking hot wife, granting her a
damehood in the No Agenda Nation.
Her title will be Dame Jitterbug Fixer of
Gadgets for the round table.
She requests a New York strip, medium rare,
sourced from a local rancher and a Pepsi.
So you might as well wash down your
beautifully clean steak with some poison.
She needs a de-douching and a lot
of phosphoric acid, which is, I think, tasty.
She needs a de-douching and can use
a we're all gonna die little girl jingle.
Thank you for your attention to this matter,
Sir Shug, aka faux diddly.
You've been de-douched.
We're all gonna die.
Another classic.
Another classic.
Commodore G, Cincinnati, Ohio, 34375.
Executive producership for you.
Should remind everybody that if you donate $200
or above, you become an associate executive producer
and we'll read your note within reason.
And if it's $300 or above, you get
an executive producer title.
All these are good at imdb.com or
your LinkedIn profile or on the X, wherever
you want to put it.
Put it on your, what's the blue, the
blue cry, the blue sky profiles and people
will block you.
That's still running?
I think so, yeah.
And Commodore G says, happy new year from
Commodore G.
And then we have Jeffrey Ray, who I
believe is the artist.
Yes.
In Madeira, the island, Portuguese island.
I didn't know that.
I didn't know that either.
Uh, uh, Madeira, Madeira.
And, uh.
Give me a glass of Madeira, my dear.
That's what.
Make it very, uh, very nice.
People should have, I should put it on
the tips.
I have to give, I should get a
little lecture on Madeira sometime.
Oh, by the way, we had dinner last
night with the international arms dealer.
He told me he's, you know, he's in
all these wine groups and everything.
He said that the bourbon barrel age, uh,
red wines are all happening now.
It's the big thing.
And he was on this mailing list and
he said, well, actually John C.
Dvorak of the no agenda show gave me
a great tip on the Robert Modavi.
And apparently this is now a thing.
The bourbon barrel aged, uh.
There's a ton of them out there.
Yeah, yeah.
I've noticed this too.
So people who follow that tip are, are
literally on the tip.
The head of the game.
They read the other ones I've, I've seen
out there are garbage.
So the one we recommend is the one
always get.
Anyway, Jeffrey Ray came with three 3333 has
no note.
I have no idea why you think he
would have a note since he sends in
art.
And I'm pretty sure it's the same guy.
So we'll give him a double up karma.
That's exactly what we'll do.
You've got karma.
Matthew Doolittle, Raleigh, North Carolina, three 3333.
Happy new year.
You climate change denying Zionist chills.
He says, I couldn't think of a less
deserving pair.
Considering you ride on the laurels of the
almighty podcast creator, Tom green.
Okay.
We've got a comedian.
I surely hope a portion of this donation
goes on to, to forward a video based
podcast for him on rumble or similar platform
with hyperlocal focus on Ontario.
Canada's greatest export.
Neil perks may no longer exist, but perhaps
Drake can employ a world-class drummer for
Tom's next video cast.
Wow.
This is very cultural to my lovely wife,
Chelsea.
I hope that in 2026, we continue to
have more fun adventures across the globe.
I am joyous that we can make it
thousands of miles across the Atlantic or across
the U S for that matter, seamlessly.
I'm not sure how many thousands of miles
we have traveled together, though.
I prayed has given us status on at
least some airline, our willingness to take advantage
of cheap flights and hotels during the lockdowns
carries on to this day.
You are a shark when it comes to
trip planning, amazing trips, and I love you.
On a sadder note.
I would like to call out my douchebag
friend.
Alex currently resides in Raleigh, North Carolina.
He's a transplant from new England and apparently
lost my place, left his wallet in Connecticut
20 plus years ago.
I've listened to enough donation segments and splits
split enough bar tabs with this man to
understand he is indeed a cheap bastard.
He originally hit me in the mouth.
So I'm deeply sad and John and Adam,
please take this donation and hold on to
it until such point.
Nick Fuentes does one of those masterclass things
that my social media keeps pushing on me.
He undoubtedly would have prescribed the correct birthday
to me, which is April 15th and not
the 19th as noted on episode 1756.
Regardless, I love you guys and happy new
year to you and your families.
Well, that's one for Jay.
I hope she hope she read it, Jay.
OK, onward with Darius Gandhi, who is in
Santa Monica, California.
He came in with three, three, three, three,
three, and he says sending an email.
No, we have not got the note.
At least I don't have it.
Maybe you do.
And it would be sent, of course, to
notes at no agenda show dot net notes
at no agenda show dot net.
And if you send a note to Adam
or myself, make sure to put donation in
the subject line just so it gets shuffled
over to know it's all we do is
send it to notes at no agenda show
dot net ourselves.
So you might as well skip the middleman.
So he did.
We have no notes.
So give him a double up karma.
Yes, we will.
You've got karma.
Sir Bobby.
Sir Bobby's in Amsterdam.
That's in the Netherlands.
Three thirty three, he says.
Merry New Year from Sir Bobby, the redoer.
All right, sir.
Bobby, thank you very much.
OK, now I have.
Sorry, Cassandra, she screams.
Yeah, I have Cassandra bear bear 250 dollars,
250 dollars and 15 cents.
She'll be a first associate executive producer.
And she says, see, attached docs 12, 11,
25 to John and Adam.
I don't have that, but I do have
this.
She needs health karma.
Hit it.
He's Trump.
He's Trump, the president.
No, hold on a second.
She's never heard that for a while.
She sent us the word document.
Her note was so big she put it
in a word doc.
You didn't get the word doc?
No, I don't have it.
No.
Oh, well, if you recall, she and her
husband have the the hot the hot muscle
cars.
So her husband, Mike, has a 1974 Plymouth
Cuda, and she owns a 71 Dodge Challenger
RT.
Those are pretty collectible.
Oh, it's they're beautiful.
She put a picture.
It's the Cuda in particular.
Their their website is the Hemi hideout dot
com.
And she wants.
OK, so today is the day it has
to be before the end of the year.
Oh, that's right.
She I think she's I think she's she
tried to get this to us before the
end.
She wanted to be a dame before the
end of 2025.
So she'll be a dame for the first
ones.
We're going to give her damehood today and
post date it.
So we're going to do a Silicon Valley
does.
That's what you said earlier.
We're Silicon Valley guys.
Post date your options.
It has put your post dated to yesterday.
It has to be before the end of
the year with me now being in the
bonus round of life, looking forward to so
many more donations to the show.
I want to be knighted.
Damed Dame Mopar of the Fort Bend County,
Texas, where my husband and I rev our
engines together.
And apparently she also sent in send us
each a box or a bottle of the
famous mesquite liquid smoke that you like so
much.
Did you get liquid smoke in the in
the in the PO box?
I got some liquid smoke.
You know, I'm going to have to tell
people out there.
You know, liquid, the cold gin, it looks
like it's sealed.
And it looks like it's well sealed, but
it's not.
My liquid smoke got all over everything.
In the PO box?
Yeah.
And it's made this the post office smell
like it was on fire.
Oh, she sent one to me, too.
I think Tina went to the PO box.
I don't know if we have it yet.
I don't know.
Just a certain brand.
Certain things do not get sealed correctly and
or tight enough or they don't have, I
don't know, grommets, whatever.
Well, Cassandra, thank you very much.
We look forward to daming you.
And she wants to hit it.
He's Trump.
He's Trump, the president.
Everyone hug and share secret.
Can you do the hit it?
Hit it.
Oh, there's no winning.
We don't like to foster a competitive atmosphere,
but we laugh a lot.
Now, everyone hug and share a secret.
Thank you, Cassandra.
Robert Anderson is in Austin, Texas.
Two hundred fifty dollars.
No note.
So double up karma for Robert.
You've got karma.
And I'll do this for Baron Commodore.
Ph.D. Guess.
Two thirty three.
I am John and I'm to finish off
the previous four year or more years and
to start the next four more years cycle.
May I challenge you to another prediction or
assumption for the next four years?
I know assumptions are the mother of all
fuck ups.
So for not my word.
So for now, I'll leave it that as
it is, whatever.
Anyways, he spells with three S's.
Thank you for all your efforts.
Hard time.
Time frustration when John has mislabeled his clips
and ISO's media deconstruction M5M bullshittery.
A shout out to all the producers.
No agenda donating nobility and douchebags.
Donate John's voice.
And the Gitmo lowlands old country community.
Finally.
Also a promo for the no agenda.
Get Sir Dre of the empty PayPal and
broken brain out of the house.
Meet up on Saturday, January 18th.
And I said Saturday.
Yeah.
And it clearly says Sunday.
January 18th at the the Heron von Bergen
and doll.
Connection is protection.
He continues.
Thank you for your courage, Sir.
Baron Commodore, PhD, a goose cadaver.
He nailed it.
Baron surfer Shasta Lake, California, 226.
Happy New Year.
Crackpot and buzzkill four more years.
Now somehow this is flipped.
The scripts flipped and I'm getting long notes.
I tried to do it for you, but
you just.
I was trying to do Sir Baron Commodore,
PhD, who's could offer.
But you didn't get my cues.
I screwed up.
Yeah, you did.
Because now I have to read this.
I'll do it.
You want me to do it?
Yeah, that would be great.
Edwards, Sasha, Sasha, Mechanicsville, Virginia, Sasha.
Already starts off bad.
225 guys.
Thanks for all the good work you do
today.
1228 is my birthday.
1230 is my wife Liz's birthday.
Please add us to the list.
Well, of course, it'll be a post the
birthday, but you're on the list.
We're in the midst of the Catholic Hanukkah
celebration.
What?
With all the holidays surrounding our birthdays, we
are Catholic.
Oh, but are borrowing from the multi-day
holiday of the Feast of Lights for our
own week of celebration.
Please add us to the list.
You're on it.
A couple of other scenes show related.
John, the knife is nice.
Broke a white tail down.
I got it yesterday with broke a white
tail.
Nice to use a deer.
You use that knife to cut up a
deer?
I guess so.
Nice to use a higher carbon alloy, better
than 420 stainless.
For the gigawatt coffee guy, Eli, I can't
make that taste bad.
Normally, I can add twice the grounds and
get it to be bitter, but I can't
seem to do it with this with his
stuff.
I started to use it to make cold
brew.
It excels at that.
So this is very, very difficult to make
a gigawatt coffee bitter.
In Virginia, this is roasting cycle.
I would say a couple of things.
One, for one thing, I take another roast.
I take his roast on a Breville.
They have a grinding knob.
You turn to get a certain grind, coarse
or fine.
Almost everybody's coffee, you have to set it
to 25 to get the drip to come
out at the right time.
With gigawatt, it's always 35.
Always.
Which is a coarser grind to make a
finer end product.
So his coffee, so he's doing something with
his roasting.
He's got a roasting cycle that's slightly different
than the mainstream.
No kidding.
He's Eli.
In Virginia, Edward goes on, in Virginia, we
have the data centers.
This is a great time to sit back
and watch the finger pointing as nobody wants
to take responsibility for getting enough power for
it.
We'll see what will happen when our new
government tries to put her finger in it.
A governor tries to put her finger in
it.
It would be a real win for any
politician to get off the regulatory horse of
NIMBY, not in my backyard, and lessen restrictions
on new power plants for the supply to
this industry.
Yeah, because we need more bikinis.
We can go back to the old cogent
model of the past where big power users
had their own generation capacity.
Lead time in power plants is long due
to equipment manufacturing, turbines, and transformers.
Supposedly, you can buy and sell your place
in line.
Here's a good article about it, and he
sends an article.
Thank you very much, Ed, and you both
are on the list.
Yeah, whatever happened to cogent?
Matthew Martel, there he is in Broomall, Pennsylvania,
$210.60. Happy New Year.
I can write a book on customer returns.
I got it.
We got a note.
Did you get the note on customer returns?
Yeah, some dude, he's like, I object because
I'm a man, and I order all of
my blue jeans, and I order many things,
and I tried them all on, and when
I get something, I send all the rest
back.
He says, I don't have the note in
front of me.
I should have printed it out.
He says that he says what he's saying
is the quality of the products is so
piss poor.
True.
That he'll order six copies of the exact
same Wrangler jeans that are exact same size,
and only one of them fits right, and
he sends the other five back.
I confirm this.
It's the same with Levi's.
I've had that happen, same size, and one
comes from Vietnam.
One comes from Thailand, and they're different.
They're the same label on the inside, but
different lengths, because I need long for my
legs, my long luscious legs.
Um, three different times in between the last
show and this show, I heard people saying,
I don't order from Amazon.
Like, oh, I'm going to order that product,
and it's like, I forget what the products
were.
I'm not ordering on Amazon.
Why not?
Because it's usually cheap knockoff junk from China.
I'd rather go to the website of the
vendor themselves.
Same price, but I'd rather get it from
them because I hate getting all the cheap
knockoff junk from China.
Three different people.
There's a trend.
There's a trend here.
Something's up.
Yes.
Anyway.
Anyway, he says, I could write a book
on customer returns, refunds, and what I'd prefer
to do with them.
You get the picture?
Should I use a Sara for sans Sara
fond?
Visit martelhardware.com.
Use coupon code restockfee for an additional 10
% off your order.
And he liked the Hot Pockets jingle.
Hot Pockets.
All right, Matthew.
Stefan, Stefan.
I think it's Stefan.
Stefan Anders.
Yes, Stefan Anders in München, Deutschland.
Hello, Deutschland.
Here's the Hoff.
20260 sounds like something plus fees, no notes.
So we'll give him a double up karma
today.
You've got karma.
Sarcastic and why oh missing.
While missing Pennsylvania 20260 same amount.
Happy new year's donation.
Jobs, karma for my children and shout out
to the Ed's Tavern crew.
Sarcastic at the Nomad.
Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.
Let's vote for jobs.
Karma.
And we have a familiar name coming in
with $200.
It's Sarah, the web babe.
And she says ITM and happy new year.
While you two have been touting your unaffiliated
bona fides or bona fides.
Producers who listen carefully will know that you
have long been in the pocket of your
mega donors.
Big resume, big suburban mail order coffee and
big boob.
That's right.
We're sellouts.
Which one's big boob?
Archduke of Luna.
Kevin McLaughlin.
Right, right.
Obviously.
Big resume.
Linda Lou Patkin.
Big suburban mail order coffee.
Eli.
Big boob.
Hello.
Do you do everything your big boob handlers
tell you to?
Why, yes.
While you're at it, please shill for concurrentstudio
.com.
That's concurrentstudio.com.
We are Gitmo Nation's one-stop shop for
custom business websites and branding.
Visit concurrentstudio.com to see how we can
make your business online.
Presents beautiful.
Thank you for your cause, says Sarah, the
web babe.
Oh, thank you very much, Sarah, the web
babe.
So we maybe have a new participant in
the sweepstakes here with Sarah.
Linda Lou Patkin's up.
She's in Castle Rock, Colorado.
She's one of the people who was mentioned
in the previous note, $200, and she says
she'd like jobs karma and says hit the
ground running in the new year with a
resume that gets results.
Go to imagemakersinc.com for all your executive
resume and job search needs.
That's imagemakersinc with a K and work with
Linda Lou, duchess of jobs and writer of
winning resumes.
Happy New Year, signed Linda.
Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.
Let's vote for jobs.
You've got karma.
And we have our final associate executive producer,
Bob from Monmouth, Oregon.
$200.
I don't see a note from Bob, so
we will thank Bob with a double up
karma.
You've got karma.
We're going to move it right along and
thank everybody.
$50 and above.
It's really appreciated.
You guys did that really came through nicely
for the end of the year, the beginning
of the new year.
There's Dame Rita, Sparks, Nevada, $168.
And she says Happy New Year to us
and all the producers, the best podcast in
the universe.
Mansoor Raad in Alpharetta, Georgia, 133.33. Ryan
Seyfried in Cincinnati, Ohio, 123.45. Love that.
Dame Early Turtle, Topeka, Kansas, 103.33. Michael
McWilliams in Gilbert, Arizona, 101.26. Carolyn Kostopoulos,
Charleston, South Carolina, $100.15. Forrest Brinkley, North
Canton, Ohio, 100.
John Buell in Vista, California, 100.
Patricia Worthington, I would say Dame Patricia Worthington,
Palmetto Bay, Florida, $100.
Happy New Year.
Thank you.
And there he is, big boob himself, Kevin
McLaughlin, Concord, North Carolina, 8008.
And he just says it's a boob donation.
He is the Archduke of Luna and lover
of America and boobs.
Jason Shepard, Trinidad, Colorado.
He comes in with lopsided boobs, 8006.
Martin Tsagrinos, Las Vegas, Nevada, $77.77, which
is usually $69.69 plus fees.
Dame Dana Carroll, Laughlin, Nevada.
Nevada, you should meet each other, $72.27.
Nice palindrome.
Zwillingswolke, Wachterbach, from Deutschland.
That sounds like a town more than a
person.
$67, coming from the euros.
We appreciate that.
Sir 8-Bit Ben is in Evansville, Indiana,
and he becomes a knight today.
And he says, John Adams, Sir 8-Bit
Ben, a.k.a. Commodore Vic-20 today.
So he's already a Commodore.
Title change.
My monthly layaway plan of the famous 6502
chip donation has paid off, and I would
like to claim my baron status.
I would request approval from the Peerage Committee
to claim the realm of retrocomputer systems.
Is that approved?
Oh, absolutely.
Also, can I get some jobs?
Karma turns out that the market for 50
-plus-year-old enterprise infrastructure leaders is pretty
tough right now.
What?
COBOL is hard?
Hmm, I think— It's H-1Bs that's a
problem.
Yes.
I think some— Duh.
The fat JD's all for it.
I think some karma could help me out.
Thank you, Craig, Sir 8-Bit Ben.
Yes, we'll get the jobs karma here for
you.
Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.
Let's vote for jobs.
Yeah!
$63.31 from Sir Waldo Chicken Caesar.
It's a switcheroo for Joe Irachi, or Irace,
I think.
Irachi of Scarborough, Maine.
Also, please add him to the birthday list
for January 3rd.
He's on it.
Les Tarkowski, Kingman, Arizona.
Smallboob6006.
Jeffrey Johnson, Jarrell, Texas.
$58.
Double nickels on the dime from John Tucker
in Omaha, Nebraska.
Kyle T.
Postyak in Hannibal, Missouri.
And Andrew Morton in Elm City, North Carolina.
Zachary Maywood, 55, from Los Angeles, California.
Surprise in Yukon, Oklahoma.
$54.44. Oh, Sir Duke, Sir David Fugazotto
in Kansas City, Missouri.
$54.32. Good to hear from you.
James Frost, Parts Unknown.
$54.31. Bobby Bowe in Bluegrass, Iowa.
$50.
These are the 50s we're at.
Now, Joshua Johnson, Omaha, Nebraska.
Nathan Knoll in Nederland, Texas.
Terrence Clark in Jacksonville Beach, Florida.
Paul Contrimas, Westwood, Massachusetts.
Narcissist Naidanoff, Clifton, New Jersey.
Fine Jersey name.
Tom Lang, Castle Pines, Colorado.
Timothy Kirkpatrick in Albrightsville, Pennsylvania.
Robert Dreikosen, Parts Unknown.
We've heard of him, though.
Stephen Boltz, Fort Collins, Colorado.
John Bryant in Marietta, Georgia.
Sir Michael in Snohomish, Washington.
$50 chipping in, he says.
And Eric Sinkmajor in Yale, Michigan wraps it
up as our final $50 donor for this
very first episode of the No Agenda Show
for 2026.
Thank you all so much.
We appreciate that.
It is value for value.
So we accept any kind of value that
you can deliver to us.
We really do appreciate the monetary support.
We do not thank anyone under $50 for
reasons of anonymity, but we always see you
with your $49.99 and all the other
numbers which you can set up as a
very simple recurring donation if you want to.
Go to noagendadonations.com and set it up
any time, any frequency.
It's all up to you.
Noagendadonations.com.
So we have Edward Saja, who celebrated on
the 28th, and he wishes his wife, Liz,
a very happy birthday.
She celebrated on the 30th.
And Sir Waldo Chicken Caesar wishes Joe Arachi
of Scarborough, Maine, a very happy birthday.
He'll be celebrating on the 3rd.
And we say happy birthday here from everybody,
the best podcast in the universe.
And there he is with his $65.02
long-term donation.
Sir 8-Bit Ben does it.
He moves up the peerage ladder and moves
up to Barron.
And we congratulate him for that brand new
peerage.
And thank you very much for your long
-term support of the best podcast in the
universe.
Now we have a number of No Agenda
International Peace Prize winners.
We're very happy to announce the following as
recipients of the No Agenda International Peace Prize.
Dame Mama Khan, R.S. Bagwell, Little John's
Candy, Sir Eric Is Naked, and Jermaine C.
All of you can now go to noagenderings
.com.
This is it.
It's the last time.
You're the last ones.
There's no more peace after this.
Certainly no peace prize.
And let us know what name you'd like
on it and where you'd like us to
send it to.
That is noagenderings.com.
We do have a couple of knights.
A layaway knight, Chris Bartel, who says, Gents,
with my $33.33 monthly donation since May
of 2023, this hereby grants me knighthood of
the best podcast in the universe.
Please knight me, Sir Thunder Thighs, knight of
the PCT.
That's Pacific Crest Trail for you lowlanders and
bark-a-loungers.
For the roundtable, he requests a double IPA.
Huge shout out to my brother, Ben, who
hit me in the mouth during COVID.
Thank you, gents, for your continued service of
sanity.
New Year's blessings to you.
No jingles, just karma for old Lang Zyne.
And we have another layaway knight from David
Winchester.
Oh, it's for David Winchester.
My husband reached the knighthood level of donations
made through PayPal.
I have attached a spreadsheet, which includes his
name and call-outs.
He would like to be known as Knight
of the Risen Loaf and wants the original
Jobs and the original Bomb Them jingle.
Oh, I didn't have the Bomb Them jingle.
But first we have to do...
Let me see.
Do we have to do anything with the...
Oh, karma for this first knight.
So we'll give him that.
You've got karma.
And then what did his wife want here?
A Jobs, original Jobs and Bomb Them.
Let me get the Bomb Them.
I've got them here somewhere.
It's a lot of...
There's a lot of administration to do here.
Jobs, Jobs, Jobs and Jobs.
Let's vote for Jobs.
Karma.
Bomb them and bomb them again.
There you go.
All right.
Do you remember when Pelosi...
What she was talking about when she said
Jobs, Jobs, Jobs?
Let's vote for Jobs.
It was...
What bill was it?
I don't remember.
Do you?
Cap and Trade.
Is it that long ago?
Yep.
Wow.
That's pathetic.
No kidding.
All right.
They had that Texan guy come out and
called it Crap and Trade.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I remember that.
And we still call it Crap and Trade.
All right.
Give me your blade, man.
We got to take care of these people.
All right.
Please step forward.
Sir Shug, Smoking Hot Wife, Cassandra Fair, Chris
Bartel, David Winchester and Jermaine Siege.
All of you have reached the coveted amount
of $1,000 or more by yourself or
by someone else's hand.
And I'm therefore very proud to pronunciate thee
as Dame Jitterbug, Fixer of Gadgets, Dame Mopar
of Fort Bend County, Texas, Sir Thunder Thighs,
Knight of the PCT, David Winchester, Knight of
the Risen Loaf, and Jermaine Siege, Knight No
Name Nobody.
For you, Hookers & Blow, Renn Poison, Chardonnay,
New York Strip, Medium Rare, Source From a
Local Rancher, and a Pepsi Double IPA, and
Mutton and Meat.
Wow.
That was...
There was so much going on.
Mutton and Meat.
All of you, head over to NoAgendaRings.com.
Go take a look at those beautiful No
Agenda Knight and Dame rings.
You will be in possession of that as
soon as you give us your ring size.
There's a ring sizing guide on the website.
Of course, it comes with a couple sticks
of wax for you to seal your important
correspondence with, as well as a certificate of
authenticity.
And congratulations.
Welcome to the No Agenda Roundtable of the
Knights and Dames.
It's No Agenda Meetups.
Yeah, baby, the No Agenda Meetups.
We still have one set for this month.
Well, let me see.
We have a couple actually set for this
month.
But first, we have to play the post
-Christmas Navidad meetup from the Fort Wayne Club
33.
He had a short little meetup report.
Adam and John, this is Shannon, co-hosting
Fort Wayne.
Had a good turnout.
And I heard those drones in New Jersey
are owned by the Elohim.
And they had a bumper sticker that said,
No Agenda is the best podcast in the
universe.
Dame Trinity in Fort Wayne this time.
Having a great time, as always.
Thank you for your courage.
Hi, it's Shelly.
Merry Christmas.
This is Jared.
Happy New Year's.
It's Mike in the morning.
All right, Tri-State No Agenda Meetup.
This is from December 25th.
Hey, this is Craig Kohler, Sir 8-Bit
Ben at the Tri-State Formula Propagation Meetup
1.0 is what we called it, right?
Happy New Year, John and Adam.
Thank you for your courage.
This is Ryan, the lowly squire of the
West Marshes in the morning.
This is Isaac Turner and fellow listeners.
Shut up, slaves.
This is Chris Turner in the morning, John.
This is Tara Turner in the morning.
This is Christina Heck.
Hi, Adam.
This is Angie.
Happy to be here.
This is Seth.
Happy New Year, everyone.
John, skip the vinegar book.
I want to tell all on tech TV.
So I just want to let you know,
John and Adam, we had the best waiter
here, Joseph St-Josean.
Hello.
What do you think about the podcast?
We tried to explain it to you.
I think it's really interesting and I want
to hear it.
Thank you.
Well, that's one way of doing it.
That's even better.
I like it a lot.
Yeah, hit him in the mouth right then
and there.
There is a meetup coming up this Saturday.
The Sonoma wino country meetup.
That's edition number 8333 Pacific Time Victory House
Sports Bar and Restaurant in Santa Rosa, California
in the month of January.
We've got Raleigh, North Carolina, Milwaukee, Wisconsin, Charlotte,
North Carolina, Fort Wayne, Indiana, Berghendal in the
Netherlands, Alpharetta, Georgia, Oakland, California.
You can get tickets at noagendashow.net.
Oh, wait, I'm sorry.
I thought it was one of those comedian
podcasters for a moment.
No, there's no tickets required.
These are meetups that you can go to
for free.
Everyone always does that.
We'll be appearing at Raleigh, North Carolina at
Chuggles.
We'll be in Milwaukee, Wisconsin at...
Give me another bad comedy name.
Yuck Yucks.
The Yuck Yucks.
And we'll be doing our patented prop comedy
in Charlotte, North Carolina on January 15th.
Tickets available at the website.
No, at the Armory.
These are just no agenda meetups.
And when I say just, that means there's
no admission.
You just come on in, you hang out
with people who listen to the show.
You meet children from other lands.
You will make connection that gives you protection.
All of these people will immediately be your
first responders in an emergency.
Go to noagendameetups.com.
That's where you can search by date, by
location.
And if you can't find one near you,
you can start one yourself.
It's all free and it's very easy to
do.
Noagendameetups.com.
You wanna be where everybody feels the same.
It's like a party.
Uh, wow, man.
Then we have our end of show.
I only have one today.
I don't think it's that good.
It seems like you've got a lock.
You've got five of them, something like that.
So three, four.
Here's mine.
All reality.
None of it's scripted.
Yeah, I don't like it.
I don't think it's all right.
Okay, well, I'm mixing, mixing, matching.
I got some real ones.
Okay.
Which I'm sure you'll appreciate.
Yes.
At least try.
I always do.
How about, uh, let's see.
We've got, uh, uh, incredible.
Incredible.
Little short.
Not bad.
Do you think a little short?
Little short.
Okay.
How about, uh, I'm trying to think what
the other real one is.
Try.
Okay, let's just go from the top to
the bottom.
2026.
Great show.
Happy 2026.
Usable.
Fab.
What a fab way to start the new
year.
Thanks, boys.
It's condescending.
What?
Yeah, I found them to be very condescending.
What a great way to start the new
year.
Thank you.
What a fab way to start the new
year.
Thanks, boys.
No, condescending.
Sex.
I don't like her.
That show was better than sex.
Okay, now you're talking.
Now you're talking.
But the mm was pretty pathetic.
Mm.
Like, really?
That's her, like, mm is better than sex.
Mm, mm, better than sex.
Mm.
That show was better than sex.
I'll just start it there.
If I just start it there.
I like the mm in there.
I think you're wrong about this.
You're wrong.
All right.
And then what's your last one?
That was the last one, wasn't it?
No, you have weird.
Oh, okay.
There's a weird.
It's weird.
It's weird.
It's bizarre.
It's not normal.
No, I think we'll do.
That show was better than sex.
I really don't like them.
Did you prompt it and say, sexy girl?
No, I wrote it out.
All right, everybody.
It's time for the very first tip of
the day for 2026.
Okay, so this brings me to, this has
actually been discussed on the show before.
It's not an official tip, but it is
now.
Philip J Corso's book, The Day After Roswell.
Yeah.
Hasn't this been a tip of the day
before?
No, it's never been a tip of the
day, but it's been discussed.
And the reason I bring it in is
to look it up.
Maybe I'm wrong.
I could, it could be a repetitive tip.
I've done this before, but I'm pretty sure
this was brand new.
The reason I'm doing it is because of
the new documentary on Netflix, which is not
Netflix.
I'm sorry.
Amazon.
I think Amazon has it.
Amazon or Netflix.
One of the two have, it's called The
Age of Discourse or The Age of Bullshit.
Disclosure?
Is it The Age of Disclosure?
Yeah.
So if you pay your subscription, you still
have to pay 15 bucks to watch this
thing.
Wait, what's it called again?
Age of Disclosure.
No, I mean Corso.
The Day After Roswell.
Ah, yes.
Okay.
I'm listening.
So, so the reason I suggest the book
is because you think they'd be talking about
this book, which we've discussed extensively.
They'd be talking about this book on this,
The Age of Disclosure.
The Age of Disclosure is supposed to break
the, just break the mold.
It's being banned.
Nobody wants to see it, even though it's
the most popular documentary ever posted on Netflix,
I think, or Amazon.
One of the two.
They're making bank on this thing.
And all it consists of is a bunch
of people sitting down and saying, yeah, yeah,
yeah.
We're pretty sure that, yeah, there's life outside
there.
I've seen, I've seen this.
Yep.
I've seen some wreckage.
And yeah.
What about you?
Yeah, yeah.
There's gonna, there's some aliens there.
We've seen them out there and they're coming
in.
We don't know what they mean, what they
want.
We don't know anything about it.
But yeah, I'm pretty sure, pretty sure.
What about you?
Oh, you know, there's, I saw some wreckage.
It's just, it's ridiculous.
So just read this book.
This book goes way deeper.
It's much more interesting than this documentary.
We have mentioned this book on 17 different
episodes.
Now make it 18.
Talk about recycling content.
I'm telling you.
Oh, you're still on that.
There he is, everybody.
It's the tip of the day.
NoahJim.TheFun.com tipoftheday.net Oops.
Ow, that hurt.
I didn't mean to do that.
There's been a lot of engineering this past
30 minutes or more.
Woo, everybody.
How did we run so late?
I don't know.
We got to talk.
We're supposed to be done at 2.30.
I know.
I don't know what happened.
You know, it's because we love doing the
show so much.
We love giving people as much value as
possible.
How about that?
Yeah, that's it.
I think more importantly, we work on the
holidays.
Yeah, there you go.
We may grouse at each other, but we
still work on the holidays.
Well, that's just because I'm grumpy.
Yes, because you're sick.
I'm grumpy.
Hey, go out with your Alex Jones voice.
All right, everybody.
We got excellent end of show mixes.
Right, right.
They're all against the elites.
They're going to...
It's all done by Silicon Valley AI, AI.
It's all the end of show mixes.
Then we got Darren and Larry of the
Planet Rage coming up next.
Those guys are good.
Those guys are good boosters.
Coming to you from Fredericksburg, Texas.
In the morning, everybody.
I'm Adam Curry.
And from northern Silicon Valley where it's raining,
I'm John C.
Dvorak.
We'll be back on Sunday.
Join us here, won't you?
For more media deconstruction.
Until then, adios, mofos.
Ahoy, ahoy.
And such.
You knew I was right before the proof
was decreed.
It's a general rule, a universal law.
I saw the wind that you never saw.
Hey, JC, I was right.
Yes, I was right.
The stars are aligned and I was right.
It's a wonderful feeling, a glorious sight.
Just stand here and whisper, I was right.
Say it high, say it low, say it
mildly.
I was right, Ali.
I'm not bragging.
I'm just...
Hey, John?
Right, right, right, right, correct.
Hey, John, am I right?
As a medical doctor by training, we are
on the brink of another global health crisis.
The Disinformation Global Health Resilience Initiative from measles
to polio.
Because every square centimeter of our territory must
be protected.
One incident may be a mistake.
Two incidents are coincidence.
But three, five, ten.
Gray zone campaign, gray zone campaign.
Too often I hear that Europe is late
to the AI race.
I strongly disagree.
The AI race is still warming up.
Our eyes on a goal.
As a medical doctor by training, gray zone
campaign.
Our eyes on a goal.
As a medical doctor by training, gray zone
campaign.
Our eyes on a goal.
We're staring at the screen with a glazed
over eye While X and beta M tick
tock track dopamine high It knows I like
the sugar It knows I like the salt
If I'd buy it from Amazon, well, it
isn't my fault They're hacking my brain, the
limbic kind Turning every little craving into gold
They can find my amygdala is shouting Just
one more click While the billionaire's wallet is
getting more and more thick Oh, it's limbic
capitalism Producers, don't you see?
They've got a direct wire to the lizard
inside us They're selling us the outrage They're
selling us the fear And I'm playing with
my focus till it all disappears You're not
like it You're not Oh, it's limbic capitalism
Till it all disappears So put down the
cookies and the doom scrolling feed Shut down
the lizard, let logic take the lead The
no-agenda show is the anecdote, my friend
To the capitalistic cravings that never seem to
end Don Bass, school of podcasting rules The
best podcast in the universe mopo.dvorak.org
slash n-a Hmm, that show is better
than sex