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January 15th • 3h 34m

1834: Swarm Forge

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What's the point of keeping it a big
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secret?
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Adam Curry, John C.
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DeVora.
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It's Thursday, January 15, 2026.
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This is your award-winning give-on-Asian
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-media assassination episode 1834.
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This is no agenda.
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Cutting through the grass and broadcasting live from
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the heart of the Texas Hill Country right
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here in FEMA Region Number 6.
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In the morning, everybody.
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I'm Adam Curry.
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And from Northern Silicon Valley, where nobody's surprised
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that President Clinton told Congress to pound salt.
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I'm John C.
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DeVorak.
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Is it pound salt or pound sand?
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Well, he's pounding salt.
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They said, we're not coming.
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We're not going to testify.
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You can't make us do that.
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Yeah, it's pretty interesting.
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Steve Bannon in jail and Navarro in jail.
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They throw all these other when the Democrats
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are running things.
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And then once you know that it's Comer's
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committee, what do you think's going to happen?
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Yeah, nothing.
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Pretty much nothing.
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Nothing.
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The guys that do nothing.
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Yeah, it's amazing.
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It's unbelievable.
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James Comer is the biggest do-nothing I've
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ever seen.
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I mean, I'm still waiting for the Hunter
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Biden stuff.
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Well, we're connecting the dots with the banks.
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We see the crime family.
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You know, zip, nothing.
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Yeah, well, they're in Congress.
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It's not even their job to do that.
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This Justice Department, I don't see why anyone
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puts any faith in Congress to do any
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kind of any, you know, locking people up.
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It's not going to happen.
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And there was a period of time, if
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you recall, when I think the Republicans held
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Congress, but the president was Obama.
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And what's his name?
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The attorney general, the black guy.
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Holder.
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Holder comes on and he gives them a
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bold-faced lie about one thing or another
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about where all these missing weapons went to
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the cartels in Mexico.
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And they said, well, we're going to get
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to the bottom of this.
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And then they actually sent in a referral
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so he could be in contempt of Congress
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for not answering some questions.
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Nothing.
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Nothing came of it.
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You seem surprised.
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You're just going off.
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Are you just going off?
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I'm just going off.
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I'm not surprised at all.
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I've been hearing this for 18 years, everybody.
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Of course.
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I mean, where's my 10,000 sealed indictments
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at?
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I gave up.
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There's another one.
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That guy disappeared, of course.
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He stopped talking.
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I gave up.
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Yeah, 10,000 sealed.
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Who was that guy?
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What was that guy's name?
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Judge Knapp.
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No, it was Joe DiGenoa.
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Oh, Joe DiGenoa.
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Whatever happened to him and his wife?
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Did they still do a podcast?
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She got indicted.
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They were in the 10,000 indictments.
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I don't know.
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Joe DiGenoa.
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Yeah, he'd come on.
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We have tons of clips of him coming
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on, talking about, oh, tomorrow.
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And it was always tomorrow.
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It wasn't like he pushed it off for
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a year.
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It was tomorrow they're going to release 10
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,000 sealed indictments.
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Yeah, let's see.
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I have this.
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Let me see.
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What's a good one?
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I think this is a good one.
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Oh, wait.
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I have an ISO.
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What is this?
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How many sealed indictments there are?
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More than 100,000.
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Hold on.
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We need to answer.
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Yeah.
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DiGenoa.
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Here we go.
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Here's DiGenoa.
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So we should see a report by the
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end of the summer.
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Are you hopeful?
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I am.
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I'm a little surprised by the news.
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This is when he was talking through his
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microphone.
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And that John Durham is going to publish
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a report before filing criminal charges.
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That's really fascinating to me.
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When I was an independent counsel of the
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United States.
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No, blah, blah, blah.
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I don't want to hear him anymore.
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This sound is too bad.
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I guess, uh, does he know DiGenoa?
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Maybe he's dead.
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Well, let's not make fun about dead people
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today.
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It's been a bad week.
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Let me see.
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Does he have a podcast?
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Yeah, that would be it.
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Believe me, if he had a podcast, we'd
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be listening to it.
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Joe, the American Spectator?
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Nah.
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No, he has no podcast.
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I don't know what happened to him.
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He's just gone.
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That's interesting.
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Somebody pulled him from his assignment.
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Somebody do a wellness check.
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So, uh, you already talked about in the
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newsletter.
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But we are obviously mourning the loss of
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Scott Adams.
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Yes, he, uh, was a friend of the
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show.
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For sure.
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And, uh, he didn't plug the show as
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much as he could have.
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He never plugged the show.
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I don't think he ever plugged the show.
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Did he ever plug the show once?
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I think once or, well, I know a
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couple of times he mentioned the show.
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Oh, okay.
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Yeah, that's right.
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That's right.
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And, uh.
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You just say Dvorak and Curry.
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He wouldn't even say no agenda.
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Thanks, Scott.
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Yeah, it was stuff like that.
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But there was a number of things that
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were, you know, there's all these tributes.
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And they were all well-deserved.
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I mean, the way I saw it, and
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I've known him for, guess how many years?
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You have known him for 32 years, 33
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years.
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Exactly.
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33.
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What does that tell you?
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Tells you something's up.
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So, um, so he had, there's a couple
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of things that came about.
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I mean, I knew him early on and
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then I lost track of him for about
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a decade.
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I hadn't seen him.
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And then I started seeing him again.
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I, last time I, when I.
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Well, you interviewed him for the show.
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Yes, we did for the show.
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We should repost that for sure.
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Yes, I was thinking about it.
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That's a good idea.
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We should repost it.
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And, uh, it brought a lot of stuff
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out.
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But he was a couple of things that
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people never got to know about him.
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One, he was the, I think he was
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the hardest, he's a hard worker.
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He was just a killer hard worker.
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He was, he did, even when the cartoon
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was largely canceled, he kept writing Dilbert.
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Yeah.
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Which was, it took a lot of work.
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He did about five books and he did,
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he did about 50 cartoon books.
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And do you remember when, when he got
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canceled and then he had this arm problems
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and he couldn't, he couldn't draw and he
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needed to do all kinds of things to
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figure out how to still make the cartoon.
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Yeah.
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He had a lot of physical issues that
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came and went.
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Um, yes, I remember the guy couldn't draw
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for a while.
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Kind of sucks as a cartoonist.
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Yeah, but he got over it.
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Yeah.
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And he, he would, a couple of things
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that you should know about him.
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One, he did not really like people.
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No wonder you two got along.
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Amazing.
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He didn't really like people.
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He said to me once, he said he
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doesn't have respect for people.
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And the reason was, he says, because everybody
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is so susceptible to suggestion that they can
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be easily manipulated.
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And he went on about this.
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He had this preoccupation with this manipulation thing,
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which brings me to the common place that
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he was a trained hypnotist.
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Yes.
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As he often said.
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Yeah.
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Cause he was a big believer in repeating
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stuff until it became true.
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Uh, there is no evidence of this.
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Who, who trained him and who does he
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ever hypnotize?
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What did you, you're gonna, you're gonna kick
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the legs out from underneath the dead guy.
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Don't do that.
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Don't just say that I'm protecting you here.
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Don't do that.
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A couple.
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Okay.
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I won't go on about that, but, but
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I will, but if anyone likes this, like
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this cartoons and I have a couple of
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panels.
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Luckily I collected, uh, from years ago when
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he drew, actually drew the cartoons.
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Yeah.
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Not on the computer.
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Um, he, that he got fired.
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The story about him getting fired is fascinating.
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So he was a bureaucrat type.
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He was not an engineer really, even though
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he became one at Pacific Bell.
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He was a Pacific telephone.
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Pactel.
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Pacific Bell.
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Pactel.
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Pactel.
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He was a natural engineer.
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He was, he had the mentality of an
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engineer and he could, that's why he felt
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he could engineer everything.
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And, uh, so he would work at Crocker
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and Mimi's actually the one who helped him
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get his job at Crocker when she worked
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there.
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No way.
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What's, what's Crocker?
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What's Crocker?
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Crocker bank.
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It used to be a famous bank in
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San Francisco Bay area.
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Scott worked there.
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Wow.
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How did, how did Mimi hook up with
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him?
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She didn't.
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She was, he was hanging out with a
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bunch of pot smokers.
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Oh, comics, comics, you mean?
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No, no, no.
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He was hanging out with the, some of
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the girls that worked at the bank and
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they were, and he was a pot smoker.
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And girls want, want a lid, want a
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copper lid.
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He was a real heavy duty pot smoker.
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People have to realize that.
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Oh yeah, we connected deeply on that.
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It wasn't, it wasn't a secret.
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No.
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And, uh, so he, he worked at the
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bank and then he, I don't know how
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he lost his job there cause she was
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already gone by then.
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And he, uh, ended up going to work
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for Pac Bell and he was just doing
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system stuff.
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And working on the computers, he got on
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the web early on.
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First guy ever showed me the web cause
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I visited him at his offices.
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And he, wait a minute.
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How did you, how did you meet him?
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If, cause I don't know the origin.
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Oh, I can't remember.
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I was 33 years ago.
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I can't remember when I, how I hooked
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up with him, but I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm
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over there and he's shown me the web.
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And, uh, and so he, and then about
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three years later, after I, after that, about
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96, I think he got, they fired him
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from Pac Bell.
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And the story behind that is quite fascinating.
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What happened was they brought in some, cause
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Scott was not doing a lot of work
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at Pac Bell, but he was famous for
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doing Dilbert cause Dilbert was a huge hit
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during that era when he was at Pac
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Bell.
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And so the sales people from Pac Bell
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would use Scott as a foil to get
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appointments.
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He was their go-to guy for the
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sales team.
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And so they say, well, you know, we'd
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like to meet you about to do some,
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you know, some sort of whatever business, the
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phone company does, but they do a lot
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of business obviously.
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And we'll bring Scott Adams, you know, Dilbert,
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he's, we got him, he works for us.
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Oh yeah, sure.
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Yeah.
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I didn't want to have the meeting, but
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now I do.
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He always was thinking past the sale.
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That was one of his big things, thinking
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past the sale.
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So he was used as the guy, the
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bait for the sales team at Pac Bell.
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And they were just rolling in dough with
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this guy.
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A guy comes in who is, they just
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hired the guy and he's going to do
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a, what do you do when you go
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from job to job to job to do
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the check, see if these people are doing
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anything.
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There's a word term for it.
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Somebody in the chat.
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Yeah.
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A Fed.
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No.
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If we call that a Fed, in business
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speak, he's a Fed man.
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He's checking to see if you're doing the
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job right.
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There's a term for this process and it's
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called, it's work analysis or something.
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I haven't been in business for so long.
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I can't remember it.
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But so they brought this guy in to
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do efficiency analysis and they go through one
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person after another and they get, the guy
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gets this guy, he figures this guy's not
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doing anything.
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NARC, maybe NARC, call him a NARC.
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And so they fire him because this guy
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comes in and the guy, this was unbeknownst
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to the sales team.
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And so Scott is out.
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And so they freak.
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I remember you telling me this.
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Yeah, I remember this story.
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They freak out and they try to get,
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and Scott is out now for about a
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month before they put two and two together.
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They try to get him back, but he
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looks at his cash flow and he says,
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I don't know, I screw it.
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He never goes back.
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And so he stays out for good.
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And the guy who fired him was depicted
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in his earlier cartoons.
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If anyone goes back to his cartoons, there's
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one guy with a full short facial beard
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that got, he's got a complete facial beard
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and black hair.
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And he's kind of a shorter guy.
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That's the guy who fired him.
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Auditor?
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Sorry?
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An auditor?
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No, no, not.
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I'm still trying to think of the name
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for that position.
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There's a word for what it is.
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The same guys that were in, if you
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watch the movie, uh, Office Space, those two
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guys who come in to, to check on
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the employees.
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Okay.
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So, uh, so, so he has the, uh,
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that guy in the cartoons for a while
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and he's always in a hole.
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He finally dropped him cause he wasn't really
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a good character.
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Uh, the other, the other one I know
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there's the, the care, the woman that's in
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the cartoons who has the triangle shaped, uh,
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hairdo.
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Yeah.
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She was actually, I actually chatted with her.
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She ended up working at Cisco.
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And, uh, this is so deep, man.
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This is great.
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I love the slide in the weed stuff.
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Cause I just, I mean, I went to
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his, he had a chain of restaurants for
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a while that was Stacy.
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He was financing this woman, Stacy and the
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restaurant Stacey's.
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I went to lunch there a couple of
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once at the one in Pleasanton and met
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Stacy.
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And I think he had a crush on
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her, but she was just using him to
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finance the restaurants.
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He was not good at pulling the birds.
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I hear he was not really good at
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it.
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Well, you know, I don't think he, I
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never could figure that part out, but he
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was funny.
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He had a dry, odd, dry, super dry
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sense of humor.
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That was quite, uh, efficiency experts.
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Yes, exactly.
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Thank you.
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Trolls.
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Who said that?
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Who was that?
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MVP.
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Oh, all right.
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Mark.
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Yeah.
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Efficiency experts came in and this guy was
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the efficiency expert.
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He hired him.
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And about three months after the sales guys
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made a fuss, they fired him.
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He got fired.
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The efficiency expert.
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Yeah, of course.
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Get rid of that guy.
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Wow.
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That's amazing.
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So, you know, so Scott has a, uh,
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is an interesting, was an interesting person.
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And he, it's a shame that he, uh,
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well, you know, you and I had a
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little chat about it and you said something
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very interesting.
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Can I just relay that?
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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I'm kind of convinced of this, which, because,
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well, it's based on one of my old
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stories, but yeah, we'll go ahead then.
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Well, I had this thesis and it's not
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a thesis.
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It's, it's something that everybody does.
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Uh, if you're a motorcyclist and you're on
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a dirt trail and you're bouncing around and
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you see a big, you see a big
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rock, you know, what's going to happen.
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If you keep looking at the rock, you
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look at the rock, you hit the rock.
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This is the, this is you.
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You always look where you're going.
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Not what you don't, what you're trying to
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avoid.
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If you're trying to avoid it and you
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look at it, you'll hit it.
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And this is the same thing with driving
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a car.
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And it turns out, cause I was talking
15:28
to Brunetti about this and his wife, Alex
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says you do the same thing with horses.
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Huh?
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I don't know how that works.
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My horse is going to stumble.
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Well, you, you don't, you don't look at
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what the horse is going to hit.
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You look at where you, you look where
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you're going.
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Yeah.
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And, uh, I mentioned that to Mimi and
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she says, yeah, cause she's a horse, she
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rides horses.
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And yeah, you do.
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You don't look at, it's the same thing.
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And Scott Adams was so preoccupied with, uh,
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with, uh, suggestibility to an extreme.
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He, I mean, he, he basically was looking
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at the rock all his life.
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Yeah.
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The shoemaker, the shoemaker's kids have no shoes.
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And so he, so because he was so
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preoccupied with this, he was, and believed in
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it so much that he himself was suggestible.
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And the only reason that it came up
16:21
with this is because he was, he sounded
16:23
okay on his podcast until he went to
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the radiologist.
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And the radiologist said, put your affairs in
16:29
order.
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It's over, son.
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The radiologist and Scott said it had no
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good news.
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I'm cooked.
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And, and he did not sound the same.
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He, he sounded like he was cooked.
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Yeah.
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The radiologist by the rate, the radiologist had
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suggested to him that he was through.
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And he, and he took this because he's
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always looking at the rock.
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He hit the rock.
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Yeah.
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That's just the thesis.
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I don't know, but I did notice the
17:03
difference.
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And within five days he was done.
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Uh, we've got a lot of, uh, cause
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people know about the connection between Scott and
17:12
the show.
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And I just wanted to read one or
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two notes, uh, Mitchell Reeves.
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He says in the morning with the passing
17:20
of Scott Adams, I felt it was important
17:21
to tell you both how much you mean
17:23
to me.
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See, this is what people do.
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Like, oh crap.
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What if those guys go away?
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What am I going to do?
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How much, yeah.
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Yes, we, and they should.
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Yes.
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I'm 32 years old, 33 in one month
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with a wife and two young daughters.
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I'm approaching my last semester of law school.
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I work full time, go to law school
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at nights, but this guy's busy.
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The two of you, as well as Scott
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Adams have been with me the entire time
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and given me something to look forward to.
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And have also helped me feel a lot
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less alone.
17:52
It gives me a bit of escape from
17:53
the stress I'm under right now.
17:54
I always tell people my non-negotiable can't
17:57
miss podcasts are no agenda and coffee with
17:59
Scott Adams.
18:00
I can say with certainty that I am
18:01
better because of your show.
18:03
And of course, I don't want to make
18:04
it about us, but I just thought that
18:06
was interesting because I got a lot of
18:08
those.
18:09
I don't know if you got any emails,
18:10
people saying, you know.
18:11
Yeah, I got a few.
18:12
And based upon, I'm not going to recycle
18:15
content, but based upon his last words, which
18:20
his ex-wife read, Pastor Jimmy and I
18:22
had a conversation about whether he's going to
18:25
heaven or not based upon his accepting Jesus
18:32
as his Lord and Savior.
18:33
And one of our producers said an interesting
18:36
note.
18:36
He said, one of the persuasion tips Scott
18:38
hammered on was thinking past the sale.
18:41
Thinking past the sale was not about whether
18:44
he was going to heaven.
18:45
It was whether Jesus was real.
18:47
And it seems like it's one of those
18:49
last, very Scott Adams type thing to do.
18:52
And you can listen to the podcast to
18:56
hear us talk about that.
18:58
But a lot of people got really excited.
19:00
Like, yes, he accepted Jesus on the deathbed
19:03
conversion, we call it.
19:05
Yeah, I always thought of it when he
19:08
did it as a, why take a chance?
19:11
Well, that's basically what he said.
19:14
Yeah, and that's the way he always was.
19:16
Yeah, what have I got to lose?
19:17
But the problem was, his logic was, because
19:21
he was a natural engineer, it was to
19:22
overthink everything.
19:25
This is why he got the vax.
19:28
He was overthinking.
19:30
For one thing, unfortunately, being suggestible himself, he
19:35
believed that the propaganda about the, without question,
19:41
that came out of the government about long
19:44
COVID and its dangers and all the rest.
19:46
This is what, during that era where if
19:48
you touch something, oh, you can pick up
19:50
COVID from touching things.
19:53
And so he bought into that, and he
19:55
was very adamant about it.
19:57
But his earlier mistake, and I think I
19:59
pointed this out on the show before, which
20:02
irked him to no end, was his decision,
20:07
but through his own logic.
20:09
And I can still see him doing this
20:11
on the blackboard.
20:12
He has his whiteboard, actually.
20:14
And he had, where's the origins of this
20:16
come from?
20:17
And he had two choices.
20:18
He broke it all down on the blackboard.
20:20
And one was the virology lab that investigated
20:26
coronaviruses in Wuhan and the wet market.
20:31
And through some screwball logic, which I never
20:35
could understand, he says, it's so obvious to
20:37
me that it's the wet market.
20:40
Well, he later rescinded that.
20:42
Well, yeah, sure.
20:47
Yeah, people are yelling at him.
20:49
No, man.
20:50
No, no, no, no, no.
20:51
Don't do that.
20:52
Yeah, he's pretty good.
20:54
He was very good at resisting people yelling
20:57
at him.
20:58
So even because he was- You got
21:00
to.
21:00
You got to have that.
21:01
Yeah, well, yeah.
21:02
But he was also, he got into trouble
21:07
once, about 20 years ago, and it was
21:10
some back and forth that was going on
21:12
online.
21:12
I had to chat with, I talked to
21:14
him over the phone about it, because I
21:15
had a solution.
21:17
And I told him how important it was
21:19
he had to fix this, because I had
21:20
gotten into an online mess years earlier.
21:25
Yeah, with the Mac people.
21:26
They hated you.
21:27
Well, no, it was something that he said
21:29
on, it was something I said on when
21:32
CompuServe had these forums, we had ZDNet or
21:35
something on there, and it was, I had
21:36
taken a stand on some stupid thing.
21:39
You don't remember?
21:40
You were taking a stand against social media
21:42
in the early, early days.
21:45
No, it was about something else.
21:46
It was about some product.
21:49
And I had one of the, a friend
21:51
of mine called me up and says, you
21:52
got to stop.
21:55
And because he says, this is just getting
21:57
out of control, just apologize and you'll be
21:59
good to go.
22:00
And so, which is the same thing I
22:02
kind of told Scott.
22:03
And I did, and it just ended.
22:06
Whoa, well, crap, he's not arguing anymore.
22:09
Go figure, let's move on.
22:10
There's just a lot of argumentation that people
22:13
like to do.
22:14
They just like to argue.
22:16
You know, speaking of the VACs and choices,
22:20
just to pivot a little bit for a
22:22
second, because I think we've discussed Scott and
22:26
we miss him.
22:26
He was good.
22:27
He was fun for podcasting.
22:29
Oh, he was a great podcaster, natural.
22:31
And I was always, envious is not the
22:34
right word, but I always thought his simultaneous
22:36
SIP was a genius podcasting thing.
22:41
It was a gimmick.
22:42
It was a good one.
22:42
It was a great gimmick.
22:43
That was really good.
22:45
So RFK Jr. sent a letter to Germany,
22:49
a stern letter, I'm sure, sealed with his
22:51
night ring and sealing wax.
22:53
And it's about a similar topic.
22:56
Hi, I'm Robert F.
22:57
Kennedy Jr., your HHS secretary.
23:00
Welcome to the podcast, everybody.
23:02
These guys are all doing podcasts now.
23:05
Hi, I'm Robert F.
23:05
Kennedy Jr., your HHS secretary.
23:08
Today, I want to tell you about a
23:09
letter that I just sent to Germany's federal
23:12
minister of health, Nina Warkin.
23:14
Because what's happening in Germany right now demands
23:17
a clear public response from the United States
23:20
of America.
23:21
We don't know why, but.
23:22
I've learned that more than a thousand German
23:25
physicians and thousands of their patients now face
23:29
prosecution and punishment for issuing exemptions from wearing
23:33
masks or getting COVID-19 vaccines during the
23:36
pandemic.
23:37
When any government criminalizes doctors for advising their
23:41
patients, it crosses a line that free societies
23:44
have always treated as sacred.
23:46
In my letter, I explain that Germany is
23:49
targeting physicians who put their patients first and
23:53
punishing citizens for making their own medical choices.
23:56
The German government is now violating the sacred
24:00
patient-physician relationship, replacing it.
24:03
Where was he during COVID?
24:04
Did he speak up during COVID about this?
24:08
No, not that I know of.
24:09
I can't recall.
24:10
With a dangerous system that makes physicians enforcers
24:14
of state policies.
24:16
Your health is no longer your doctor's priority
24:19
under this system.
24:21
Your doctor instead is serving the welfare of
24:23
the collective as determined by unelected technocrats with
24:27
no medical training.
24:29
Anybody can see the danger in this system.
24:32
No democracy grounded in confidence and transparency should
24:36
move in that direction.
24:38
Patients must always have the freedom to make
24:40
personal medical decisions without coercion or political pressure.
24:45
That principle forms the bedrock of every democratic
24:48
nation.
24:49
Okay, well, we're going to remember you said
24:51
that, RFK Jr. I'm not quite sure why
24:55
he's doing this other than to get people
24:57
to smash that like button.
24:59
It's just like, okay, well, I wish we
25:03
had had that voice of yours in 2020,
25:06
2019, 2020, 2021, 2022.
25:10
And his voice sounds better, actually.
25:12
I think about it.
25:14
That sounds, you can hear him.
25:17
Yeah, it's better.
25:18
So another person died.
25:21
You only know him because we got some
25:23
donations because of him, Robert Jensen.
25:26
Yeah, he's one of your buddies in Holland.
25:29
Yeah, and I would say one of my
25:31
friends.
25:33
Certainly, maybe I talked to three people in
25:35
Holland still, excluding my daughter.
25:38
And he had a massive heart attack on
25:41
Monday at 52.
25:44
And it's just like, oh, man.
25:48
During COVID, he called me up because he
25:50
had a TV show.
25:52
It was a fun interview, kind of like
25:54
a Tonight Show vibe with people sitting in
25:58
chairs and he's interviewing, but it was funny.
26:01
He had a bit of Letterman in there.
26:04
He was a good guy.
26:05
And he also came when I was still
26:08
in downtown Austin in the apartment.
26:11
He came by and he was doing a
26:12
whole thing about Trump.
26:16
And during COVID, his TV show, they wanted
26:19
to renew him.
26:19
He said, no, I don't feel like doing
26:21
it.
26:21
And then we were talking.
26:23
I said, well, man, why don't you just
26:24
do a podcast?
26:26
And he said, yeah, but advertise.
26:28
I said, no, just do value for value.
26:29
And he was a very, very successful value
26:33
for value podcaster.
26:35
He really did a good job.
26:38
Although he added merch, which I said, why
26:40
are you doing?
26:41
But he was making the T-shirts in
26:43
his house.
26:45
Yeah, I guess if you want to be
26:47
a hobbyist, you keep merch in your house
26:50
because you got a little room.
26:51
Whenever he came out with a new hoodie
26:53
or something, I'd order it.
26:55
And he was a good guy.
26:56
And we hadn't spoken for a couple months.
26:59
It was, which I'm, I guess I'm sad
27:02
about because he wanted to, he asked me
27:06
to come back on.
27:07
I said, yeah, I said, but I can't
27:08
do it now.
27:08
I said, what are you, are you, are
27:11
you mad at me?
27:11
I said, I'm not mad.
27:12
I'm just busy.
27:13
I got other stuff going on.
27:15
But he had also, he'd interviewed David Icke
27:18
and he had taken such a right-hand
27:20
turn.
27:21
And then, and his whole demeanor, I found
27:24
to be depressing.
27:25
Like Ike.
27:27
You got to be an Ike?
27:30
An Ike-ite.
27:31
Yes, an Ike-ite.
27:32
An Ike-ite.
27:34
Yeah.
27:34
And like, you know, nothing is real.
27:36
We don't exist.
27:37
You know, lizard people.
27:39
It's all energy.
27:41
You just happen to see it now.
27:42
And it was, it was, it was just,
27:44
he went really far with that and it
27:46
didn't look like he was happy about it.
27:48
So I'm sad that I didn't get to
27:49
talk to him.
27:50
But a lot, you know, my phone's been
27:52
ringing all morning.
27:53
I see you Dutch M5M.
27:54
I'm not picking up.
27:56
Like, oh, area code.
27:58
It's country code 3-1.
27:59
Yeah, I'm not picking up.
28:01
Oh, please.
28:02
We want a statement from you about Robert.
28:04
No.
28:06
I despise that when people do that.
28:09
So anyways.
28:11
You give him a statement and say, if
28:12
you give him a statement, if they plug
28:14
the No Agenda show.
28:16
Come on.
28:17
Oh, what was I thinking?
28:17
I'm so sorry for that huge No Agenda
28:20
show audience.
28:21
Yes.
28:21
Well, actually Holland is our- We got
28:23
a big audience.
28:24
Yeah, Holland is our- Meetups.
28:26
But they know.
28:26
They already know.
28:27
And then, you know what?
28:28
They'll cut that out.
28:29
If I say, you know, you say, well,
28:31
No Agenda show.
28:31
They'll cut that.
28:32
They don't care.
28:33
No, you have to tell them you have,
28:34
they have to put it in.
28:35
It doesn't work like that.
28:36
You talk for 20 minutes.
28:38
They do a 30 second soundbite.
28:40
I don't know how they do it.
28:41
But you wind up hating it.
28:42
You wind up hating it.
28:43
And Robert would have hated it too.
28:45
Okay.
28:46
Well, it's your decision.
28:49
I can't believe it.
28:50
My friend died.
28:51
You're bummed the fact that I didn't take
28:53
advantage of the opportunity to promote the show.
28:59
That's terrible.
29:00
You're the best.
29:02
Well, let's make this solemn agreement.
29:05
Whoever dies first, the other one will use
29:08
the opportunity to promote the show with whoever's
29:11
left and Darren.
29:13
Darren.
29:14
Don't say that.
29:15
Darren will find some way of shooting us.
29:20
So, but that is life, people.
29:22
That is life.
29:24
And, uh, yeah, I think that's interesting.
29:27
I can't imagine just having a meeting with
29:30
David Ike and then going south.
29:32
Oh, he totally bought into it.
29:34
And, you know, we both like Ike.
29:36
You know, I like Ike.
29:38
He's done a lot of really interesting stuff.
29:40
But he was, you know, in Ike's world,
29:43
this just forget about it.
29:45
You know, the elite.
29:46
Has Ike ever cracked a smile?
29:48
Has Ike ever told a joke?
29:50
Has Ike ever laughed at anything?
29:52
No.
29:53
The guy's humorless.
29:55
Yeah, well, that that was the direction I
29:56
felt Robert was going.
29:58
Yeah, he would smile.
29:59
He would laugh.
30:00
But everything was just like, you know, it's
30:02
like like Ike has given up.
30:04
You know, it's like he'll still write books
30:06
and do his tours and everything.
30:08
But you can't help it.
30:09
You can't stop it.
30:10
Trump is one of them.
30:11
They're all part of it.
30:12
You know, they're all laughing.
30:13
I didn't know Trump was one of them.
30:14
Oh, yeah.
30:15
No, Trump.
30:15
Trump is going to bring in the CBDC
30:17
and the digital ID and the LMNLP and
30:19
the AI and it's over.
30:22
And you just got to go sit at
30:23
home and it's just coming.
30:25
Just, you know, it's like, so, you know,
30:30
no, no.
30:30
Yeah, you're right.
30:31
Missing a bit of the humor.
30:33
And when Robert started, man, it was he
30:36
was funny when he started with the with
30:40
the podcast.
30:41
He said some really outrageously funny stuff.
30:44
Anyway, so there you go.
30:46
The older you get, the more they drop
30:47
by the wayside.
30:49
So on that happy note, the astronauts are
30:52
back.
30:52
The SpaceX Dragon capsule splashed down off the
30:55
San Diego coast around 340 this morning.
30:58
His new video showing the four person crew
31:01
leaving the hatch.
31:03
Their mission to the International Space Station was
31:05
cut short due to a medical concern with
31:07
a crew member.
31:08
Officials have not explained the concern, but confirmed
31:10
that astronaut is stable.
31:13
So, of course, we still don't really know
31:14
who's pregnant, but it probably would be the
31:16
one female who returned because that is the
31:19
show thesis.
31:20
On Deutsche Welle, though, they brought in an
31:22
analyst.
31:23
This is the NASA groupie and he does
31:25
have something relatively interesting to say.
31:27
Well, NASA is bringing a four person crew
31:30
back from the International Space Station due to
31:33
medical issues.
31:34
It's the first evacuation of its kind.
31:37
U.S., Russian and Japanese astronauts undocked from
31:40
the station after five months in space.
31:42
NASA has declined to disclose which crew member
31:46
has the health problem or give details about
31:48
the issue, but the U.S. Space Agency
31:50
has stressed that the return isn't an emergency.
31:53
It's great to welcome Keith Cowling back to
31:55
DW.
31:56
He's editor of nasawatch.com.
31:58
Hi, Keith.
31:58
Now, this is the first medical evacuation from
32:01
the ISS in its 25 year history.
32:04
We don't know what the exact medical problem
32:06
is, but it's evidently serious enough to cut
32:09
the mission short.
32:10
How are you reading into this?
32:12
If somebody, and I don't know who it
32:14
is or what's wrong with them, if someone
32:16
was really, really sick, they could have been
32:18
home in a matter of hours.
32:20
They just get the suits on, push a
32:21
button and come home.
32:22
The fact that it takes a few days
32:25
and they're all happy and smiling makes me
32:27
think that if anything, it's probably something as
32:30
simple as they don't have a CAT scanner
32:32
up there.
32:32
They have a lot of medical devices and
32:34
medicines, but there's some medical gear that you
32:36
just don't have in space and do adequately
32:39
help this person.
32:41
The smart thing is to bring them home
32:42
and they're more or less at the end
32:44
of their stay up there.
32:45
So a lot of work has not been
32:48
sacrificed as a result.
32:49
What an apology for this guy.
32:50
It's not an emergency.
32:51
It's just expedited or quick or a short
32:55
end to a long trip.
32:56
Who cares?
32:57
Very suspicious.
32:58
I think you're spot on, man.
33:00
And notice the black guy stayed behind.
33:03
He didn't leave.
33:05
Just saying.
33:08
Got some jungle fever in space.
33:10
Well, yeah, I don't know.
33:12
That's pushing it.
33:13
I mean, it's possible.
33:15
But whatever the case was, I'm sure I
33:18
have night.
33:19
See, the question I'd be asking if I
33:20
was a reporter in this situation, I'd say
33:22
is that I would have asked a pregnancy
33:25
question right away.
33:26
Of course.
33:27
But but I also would say, is there
33:29
anything that anyone has to sign to refrain
33:31
from sex?
33:32
This is an interesting question that people would
33:35
want to know.
33:35
Yes.
33:36
Do you have to?
33:38
Do you sign a document, an NDA of
33:41
sorts that says you have to refrain from
33:44
sex while you're in the space station?
33:49
Do you have to?
33:50
Is there anything like that that's signed or
33:52
do you have to agree, especially if you're
33:54
a female, to not have sex?
33:56
OK, you get a waiver from H.R.
33:57
or something.
33:59
I mean.
34:00
While you're in outer space, because they don't
34:02
want anybody having sex in outer space because
34:05
they don't know what the results would be
34:06
for the baby.
34:07
And there's all these issues.
34:08
And if you get pregnant, you won't fit
34:11
into the suit.
34:13
I mean, that's the thing, it seems to
34:14
me.
34:15
Thank you very much for the art.
34:16
A comic strip blogger will be.
34:18
Yes, a comic strip blogger nailed it.
34:20
Nailed it.
34:20
He nailed it.
34:22
Yeah.
34:22
The pregnant girl in a pregnant suit.
34:25
We deserve an answer.
34:26
I think we should know this, you know,
34:28
this great expense.
34:30
We brought them back.
34:31
It's not cheap.
34:31
And they're going out of their way to
34:34
avoid saying what it is.
34:36
Why?
34:37
What is it?
34:38
Is it a hangnail?
34:39
Is it a toenail?
34:39
Ingrown toenail.
34:41
I mean, what's the point of keeping it
34:44
a big secret?
34:45
Somebody got, you know, have some ulcers.
34:48
I mean, what could it be?
34:49
Upset tummy.
34:51
Something's wrong.
34:52
Yeah, we deserve answers.
34:54
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and pharma for a second.
34:58
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35:46
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The whole thing was all about natural weight
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35:58
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35:59
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36:02
And what?
36:03
And we remember Oprah.
36:06
Now, this was a year ago, maybe even
36:08
longer.
36:09
I think it was longer.
36:10
She's a shareholder in in Weight Watchers.
36:13
She was on the board and they decided,
36:16
you know, maybe we should just hop on
36:18
this GOP one bandwagon.
36:21
And she quit by then, hasn't she?
36:23
Oh, if you recall, she left the board
36:26
and she donated her shares, which is a
36:29
huge tax tax write off.
36:31
She donated her shares to some nonprofit.
36:36
And now she's back.
36:38
And of course, she shows up on CBS
36:40
with her with her BFF, Gail.
36:42
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36:44
shaming herself to transforming her health.
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The book is co-written by Dr. Anya
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She's the founding director of Yale Obesity Research
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based medications, GOP one based medications.
36:57
We're very happy to say that Oprah and
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Dr. Anya are here in the studio with
37:01
us.
37:01
Good morning.
37:02
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37:02
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37:03
Hi, Dr. Anya.
37:04
I wanted to share because I've always when
37:06
I discovered something that I thought was important
37:09
for other people, I always wanted to share.
37:11
And I remember doing a show many years
37:12
ago and Janet Jackson was on it and
37:14
lost weight.
37:14
And I said, if there's ever a pill,
37:17
I will be the first one to tell
37:19
you about it.
37:20
And so now there actually is a pill.
37:22
But more importantly than the pill is understanding
37:24
that obesity is a disease.
37:27
And if you have this chronic disease, it
37:30
is not because you are overeating.
37:33
It's because you have the disease that causes
37:35
you to overeat.
37:36
And I did not know this.
37:38
What's the bacterial agent or viral agent that
37:42
causes this disease?
37:44
What are you going to get technical now?
37:46
I'm just asking diseases.
37:48
We know what the definition of disease is.
37:50
Is it something that's caused by a viral,
37:52
a bacterial agent or some parasite?
37:54
Depends.
37:55
It can be dis-ease.
37:57
You're just at dis-ease.
37:59
You know, it depends on how you do
38:01
this.
38:01
Oh, yeah.
38:02
You're not at ease.
38:04
Yes.
38:04
I get it.
38:05
Dis-ease.
38:06
And I did not know this until 2023.
38:10
For so long when I was raised, we
38:11
always thought just willpower because I was at
38:13
Weight Watchers and got my key to success
38:15
three times and thought, now I'm done.
38:17
Now it's just a matter of willpower.
38:19
And you're saying, Dr. Anya, no matter how
38:21
much you do and how much willpower you
38:23
think you have, that is not enough.
38:25
So now I realize that I'm on the
38:27
medications and will have to be on the
38:30
medications for the rest of my life because
38:33
I did a whole year last year.
38:35
From my 70th birthday until my 71st birthday,
38:40
I tried to be without the medication.
38:43
You stopped taking.
38:43
I stopped taking.
38:44
And what happened?
38:45
Because I wanted to prove you wrong.
38:46
Yes.
38:47
You are wrong.
38:49
I have reached the weight, the goal weight,
38:51
and I can fix it.
38:52
And what happened is I gained three pounds
38:54
and five pounds and seven pounds.
38:55
Oh, no.
38:56
Were you eating more food?
38:57
No, I wasn't.
38:57
No, you were not.
38:58
No, I wasn't eating anything.
39:00
You're drinking water.
39:01
Smiles a day.
39:01
Smiles a day, doing all the things.
39:03
Magic.
39:03
And still gain weight.
39:04
Over Christmas, I gained eight pounds.
39:06
And then, you know, so I thought, maybe
39:08
you're right.
39:09
Maybe the science is right.
39:11
And I got back on the medication.
39:12
The science is right.
39:14
And along with that comes more native advertising.
39:17
Listen to this report.
39:19
Weight loss medications like Wigovi and Ozempic have
39:22
changed the game for people looking to-
39:23
Notice how Wigovi is now first.
39:26
It used to be like Ozempic and then
39:28
there'd be, you know, all the other ones.
39:31
Now Wigovi, who are the ones footing the
39:33
bill, they're the ones that are first.
39:35
Duh.
39:35
They're the ones that are first.
39:37
Weight loss medications like Wigovi and Ozempic have
39:40
changed the game for people looking to shed
39:42
a few pounds.
39:43
However, new research shows people who stop taking
39:45
the drugs could see an increased risk of
39:48
diabetes and heart disease.
39:50
The study published in the British Medical Journal
39:52
reviewed the trials of more than 6,000
39:54
adults who use GLP-1s and other weight
39:56
loss drugs.
39:57
The results are a cautionary tale as people
40:00
who went off the meds regained weight almost
40:03
four times faster than those who simply stopped
40:06
exercising or didn't stick to a healthy diet.
40:09
That rapid weight gain then had a domino
40:12
effect on overall health as people then had
40:14
an increased risk of developing conditions like high
40:17
cholesterol and high blood pressure.
40:20
Doctors say the findings point to how these
40:22
medications are not a quick fix and anyone
40:24
looking to take the drugs should consider the
40:27
long-term effects.
40:28
Yeah, and otherwise you take it, you can't
40:30
stop taking it.
40:31
But this is good news according to CNBC.
40:33
Wall Street is happy.
40:35
Airlines are going to...
40:36
Headline.
40:37
Airlines will save big money on fuel as
40:40
new weight loss pills gain popularity.
40:43
Yeah, that's not a native ad.
40:44
That's a good one.
40:49
Literally, I mean, these guys are so shameless.
40:51
Wall Street is finding an unexpected beneficiary of
40:54
America's weight loss boom.
40:55
Airlines with the first GLP-1 weight loss
40:59
drug now available in pill form, Link.
41:04
Analysts at Jeffrey say broad adoption across society
41:07
could quietly lower fuel bills.
41:10
I'm all in on it.
41:11
I think it's also going to save on
41:13
pavement in the traffic.
41:15
There you go.
41:16
You won't have to pave the road so
41:17
much because all these fat people won't be
41:19
driving.
41:22
There's a lot of benefits.
41:23
Well, that's only if we get it on
41:24
Medicare.
41:25
Only then.
41:26
Only then will it...
41:28
This is all...
41:29
This push is coming again.
41:31
We got to get it in.
41:32
We got to get it in.
41:34
It's a happening.
41:36
Got to get it.
41:37
Make the insurers pay for it.
41:39
Everybody.
41:40
It's all good.
41:41
It's fabulous.
41:43
So that was your native ad of the
41:45
day.
41:45
There's a lot going on.
41:47
They have to stop.
41:49
Kennedy, you brought him up earlier.
41:52
He's bitching him on it.
41:53
And Germany, who cares what they do.
41:59
And Kennedy did it too, by the way.
42:01
Didn't say anything to them.
42:04
Why doesn't he say something about this, about
42:07
these advertisers?
42:07
He was one of his things.
42:09
Stop letting these guys advertise on TV.
42:12
And that would include native advertising.
42:15
Well, it clearly doesn't.
42:16
Because they're not doing any disclaimers at all.
42:20
At all.
42:21
In fact, I think I had a...
42:22
Actually, you're right.
42:24
Because native advertising is more effective because they
42:26
don't have to do the disclaimers.
42:27
In fact, I think I saw a report,
42:29
which we didn't talk about on the last
42:31
show, that the FDA, yes.
42:36
Where was this?
42:37
The FDA said the weight loss guys can
42:39
take off the warning that it could cause
42:43
suicidal tendencies or self-harm thoughts, as we
42:47
call it now.
42:48
Because there's no evidence of it.
42:50
FDA was saying that to the weight loss
42:53
people.
42:54
And I'm still waiting for the erectile dysfunction
42:58
benefit.
42:59
It's a common...
42:59
Yeah, yeah.
43:01
I don't think they're going to need to
43:03
do it.
43:03
That's the rabbit out of a hat.
43:06
Once it goes there, man, boom.
43:09
Boom, we're all good.
43:10
Give me that stuff.
43:13
So I got a disturbing email conversation this
43:19
morning with Boots on the Ground.
43:22
And it pertains to this particular story, which
43:24
of course really has nothing to do with
43:27
X other than the UK doesn't like people
43:31
being able to speak out freely on X
43:35
and have that flow through everywhere in the
43:38
UK.
43:39
We can't have that.
43:40
Here's the report.
43:40
And I'll tell you what the Boots on
43:41
the Ground report was.
43:42
Facing pressure from governments around the world, Elon
43:45
Musk is reining in his controversial AI tool,
43:48
Grok.
43:48
On Wednesday, X announced that it would no
43:51
longer generate undressed images of real people in
43:53
jurisdictions where this is illegal.
43:55
It was a welcome development in the UK.
43:57
By the way, we called this.
43:58
We called this right away.
44:00
This is a big feature.
44:01
Put a bikini on her.
44:02
Big feature.
44:03
Where Grok and X are under investigation for
44:06
generating sexualized deepfakes of women and children.
44:09
If UK watchdog Ofcom determines the platform has
44:12
broken the law, it can fine X for
44:13
up to 10% of its global revenue.
44:16
I have been informed this morning that X
44:18
is acting to ensure full compliance with UK
44:22
law.
44:23
If so, that is welcome.
44:26
But we're not going to back down.
44:27
We will strengthen existing laws and prepare for
44:30
legislation if it needs to go further.
44:33
The limits imposed on Grok's image generation came
44:36
hours after California prosecutors also opened a probe
44:39
into the chatbot.
44:41
Amid backlash last week, Grok limited the ability
44:44
to create AI images to paying subscribers.
44:46
But this was far from enough for women's
44:49
rights groups who called for X and Grok
44:51
to be removed from app stores.
44:53
Listen to this definition.
44:54
Decrying this new widespread form of sexual abuse.
44:57
What?
44:57
We are really imploring Apple and Google to
45:01
take this extremely seriously.
45:03
They are enabling a system in which thousands,
45:08
if not tens of thousands of people, particularly
45:10
women and children, are being sexually abused through
45:14
the help of their own app stores.
45:16
So this is now sexual abuse?
45:19
Yeah, and this is really about all the
45:21
bikini pictures of Starmer.
45:25
That's definitely part of it.
45:26
It's not about any kids.
45:30
Put a bikini on a little kid.
45:31
No, let's put a bikini on Starmer.
45:34
And they keep doing it.
45:35
And he sits there talking.
45:36
Some of the Starmer stuff's hilarious.
45:38
I have one clip about something adjacent to
45:42
this.
45:43
Well, can I get my boots on the
45:44
ground before you move on and move off
45:47
the topic?
45:47
Maybe this adjacent clip might add to the
45:50
boots on the ground.
45:51
Okay.
45:52
Ava, your buddy.
45:54
Oh, but you actually clipped that?
45:56
I was like, this is F-A-F
45:57
-O.
45:59
It wasn't surprising to me.
46:01
Well, we'll play it.
46:02
It was surprising to me.
46:04
What do you mean?
46:04
She was out there protesting with Tommy Robinson.
46:08
Okay, I won't play the clip.
46:10
No, we'll play it.
46:10
No, no, no.
46:12
I want to play it because when I
46:13
see people, of course, 50 people sent this
46:16
to me, tagged me in every post.
46:18
I'm like, what do you expect?
46:19
Well, it's because you're her friend.
46:21
I have never met the woman.
46:23
Well, she should be your friend.
46:25
So I just got an email I didn't
46:26
expect.
46:27
I have officially been banned from traveling to
46:30
the United Kingdom.
46:31
I'm not allowed to enter the country.
46:33
It's actually, I'll just call it what it
46:35
is.
46:35
What she did here is engagement farming.
46:38
I mean, if you're going to go out
46:39
there and into the UK, which is not
46:42
part of the EU anymore, in case you
46:44
hadn't noticed.
46:45
And you're going to say, hey, you guys
46:47
suck.
46:48
Keir Starmer, you suck.
46:49
And then you're, we do that here.
46:52
We do that here.
46:53
I mean, it's like, if you want to
46:55
come in and we see that you say
46:56
America sucks.
46:56
Okay, you played the important part of the
46:59
clip.
46:59
No, I don't want to play anymore.
47:00
I want to play the whole thing now.
47:02
The UK government under Keir Starmer deems my
47:05
presence in the UK, and I quote, not
47:08
conducive to the public good.
47:10
I don't know what that means.
47:12
Since when is being conducive to the public
47:15
good a requirement to enter a country?
47:17
I mean, especially.
47:18
You're undesirable is what you are.
47:20
The United Kingdom where, if I'm not mistaken,
47:23
thousands of illegal immigrants.
47:25
Oh, okay, this is what we're going to
47:27
do.
47:27
Oh yeah, but all the illegal immigrants could
47:29
come in, but I can't come.
47:30
This is engagement farming.
47:32
Enter through the channel every day.
47:34
And you got to do.
47:35
That's what she does.
47:36
She's good at it.
47:37
You got to do it in your car.
47:38
That's the best.
47:39
Why don't we do this show from the
47:41
car?
47:42
I am in the car.
47:44
Nobody's asking them to be conducive to the
47:47
public good, but I cannot come.
47:49
And now this email came out of the
47:51
blue in a sense that I didn't apply
47:53
for an ETA.
47:55
Now, I went back in September to join
47:58
the Tommy Robinson rally where I spoke.
48:02
I'm planning.
48:03
I was planning, I should say, to do
48:05
that again in May.
48:07
Guess not.
48:08
Guess not.
48:08
And now the timing is quite suspicious, isn't
48:10
it?
48:11
Suspicious?
48:11
It's hmm, hmm.
48:13
I'm just asking questions.
48:15
She's the Candace Owens of Holland.
48:18
Because three days ago, I posted this about
48:21
Keir Starmer calling out his hypocrisy that he
48:24
wants to ban X because of women's safety,
48:27
whilst at the same time, he's the one
48:29
who's allowing these migrant gang rapes to happen.
48:33
Obviously, he's just doing that because he wants
48:36
to ban free speech.
48:37
And that is also the reason why I
48:39
am now not anymore allowed to go to
48:41
the UK.
48:42
But it's pretty dystopian.
48:44
I mean, it's a very severe limitation of
48:47
my freedom.
48:48
And as it says in the email, I
48:50
cannot appeal.
48:51
I cannot appeal.
48:52
I'm not convicted of any crime.
48:54
I'm not under suspicion of any crime.
48:56
They just decided, Keir Starmer just decided that
48:58
someone like me is not welcome in the
49:00
UK.
49:01
Yes.
49:01
Well, yes, you're a troublemaker and you're hanging
49:04
out with troublemakers and they don't want you
49:06
there.
49:06
And by the way, why do you care?
49:09
Because it's so great.
49:12
It's cold.
49:13
It's wet.
49:14
The buildings are ugly and cold.
49:18
You don't want to go there.
49:20
There's no reason for you to go.
49:21
But you want to go to Harrods?
49:23
Well, all you see is Muslim women all
49:25
over the place.
49:25
It's not it's not fun anymore.
49:27
I'd love to pick up some pretty good
49:29
jams at Fortnum & Mason.
49:31
Well, you can order those online.
49:33
Yeah.
49:33
But, you know, the price of shipping is
49:36
ridiculous.
49:37
So one of our producers, who's a dude
49:39
named Ben, at Grok, says, and this was
49:44
an interesting back and forth, he says, I
49:46
don't know what to do.
49:47
I just reached out to you.
49:48
OK, it's regarding sexually explicit images of minors
49:52
being created by Grok on its own, he
49:55
says, he claims.
49:57
Without evidence.
49:59
Without evidence.
49:59
Despite prompts explicitly requesting the opposite.
50:03
I have photos and screenshots and copies of
50:05
prompts.
50:06
Currently, Elon says all of the explicitly sexual
50:09
content is being generated because of user prompts.
50:12
I have proof that Elon is absolutely wrong.
50:14
My response was do not repeat.
50:17
Do not send me anything.
50:19
Do not have any of this so-called
50:21
evidence on your device, because that is a
50:25
very dangerous situation because they'll be used against
50:28
you.
50:29
Elon, indeed, is saying, what do you say
50:31
here?
50:32
I'm not aware of any naked underage images
50:34
generated by Grok.
50:36
But wait, what's going to be used against
50:37
you again?
50:39
If you have, if you have.
50:41
If I have a prompt saying put a
50:42
bikini on this kid.
50:44
No, no, no.
50:45
He says that there are underage minors that
50:49
are being depicted by Grok, you know, in
50:54
a sexual way.
50:55
So I said, I do not send me
50:57
any pictures.
50:59
That's what I said.
51:00
I learned that from you.
51:01
Oh, you're saying, OK, I'm messing up who's
51:03
talking here.
51:04
And I say you shouldn't have them either,
51:06
because that will be used against you.
51:09
Get rid of it.
51:10
Yes.
51:10
And this is the reason that I've said
51:12
this before.
51:13
I'll say it again.
51:15
You get a 22 terabyte hard drive.
51:19
I don't know if you ordered yours.
51:20
I did.
51:21
All it does is collect all the evidence
51:24
against you because we don't do any cleanup
51:26
anymore.
51:26
When I was a kid, we had a
51:28
hard disk.
51:29
It was a nine, nine megabyte hard disk.
51:32
And you clean it up because there was
51:34
you'd run out of room.
51:35
And so you'd go in and take old
51:36
files off.
51:37
No, nobody does that anymore.
51:38
You just accumulate everything you've ever done.
51:41
It builds up and builds up.
51:43
And then when the FBI takes the hard
51:45
disk, there's definitely something on there that shouldn't
51:48
be.
51:50
Always, always, always, there's always something on that
51:53
shouldn't be there.
51:55
Meanwhile, there has been a change, although this
51:57
is funny window dressing, I feel.
52:00
Keir Starmer has announced the digital ID.
52:04
Well, we've got a change in mind for
52:05
that.
52:05
The government has confirmed that it is to
52:08
scrap the compulsory element of its flagship digital
52:11
ID scheme, which was supposed to deter people
52:14
from traveling to the UK to work illegally.
52:16
So Keir Starmer unveiled the policy last autumn
52:19
as part of a crackdown on migration.
52:21
But in the latest in a series of
52:23
U-turns, the government has announced that workers
52:25
will be given the chance to use other
52:27
forms of ID to verify their eligibility.
52:30
What a trap, he said.
52:32
This is great.
52:33
Oh, OK, it's not going to be used
52:34
for that.
52:35
Oh, I just might as well get it.
52:36
It's easy.
52:37
I never knew it was going to be
52:38
used.
52:38
I thought it was just going to be
52:39
used for surveillance.
52:41
No, well, duh.
52:42
But they were selling it.
52:44
The whole selling point was if you don't
52:47
have a digital ID, you can't work.
52:49
And now it's like, well, we're not going
52:51
to make it like that.
52:52
So don't worry about it.
52:53
You might as well just download it and
52:55
use it.
52:55
It's going to be fine.
52:57
It's a trap.
52:57
It's a trap.
53:00
Are they going ahead with this?
53:02
Oh, yeah, of course.
53:05
Idiots.
53:05
That's fantastic.
53:07
It's great.
53:08
So Johnny Ive and Sam Altman, this is
53:11
all the rumor mill, you know, the Chinese
53:14
factory.
53:15
Johnny Ives.
53:16
Johnny Ives.
53:16
I'm Johnny Ive and I invented the iPhone.
53:21
So, you know, there's this long rumored open
53:24
AI device that people are talking about, which,
53:28
of course, is necessary because open AI is
53:31
falling behind, in my opinion, certainly behind Gemini.
53:36
Now we just signed the big Apple deal.
53:38
Do you think that Apple is going to
53:41
get paid by like the way they were
53:42
paid by Google to put Google search as
53:44
the default?
53:45
That's what I would do.
53:47
I would do it too.
53:50
So apparently open AI to go.
53:55
Codename Sweet Pea.
53:57
It'll be a little tiny little thing you
54:00
put behind your ear.
54:06
OK, a little egg shaped case right behind
54:10
the I guess they're going to use bone
54:11
induction, then it will be your assistant in
54:14
daily life.
54:15
So as you're looking at somebody, God, if
54:17
there's anything in the world I don't want
54:19
is that some little thing carping at me
54:23
about one thing or another.
54:24
Move away.
54:25
This guy's no good.
54:26
He has a very low credit score.
54:28
Move away.
54:28
Move away.
54:29
The low credit score I had.
54:32
That wasn't bad enough.
54:34
The War Department has launched its AI acceleration
54:37
strategy to secure American military AI dominance.
54:41
I won't even read it to you.
54:43
It's so dumb.
54:46
More AI in the War Department.
54:48
Swarm Forge.
54:49
Yeah, some of these names are cool.
54:53
In war, in war fighting, Swarm Forge competitive.
54:57
Why is Swarm Forge doesn't even make any
54:59
sense?
55:00
Well, let's listen to the definition.
55:02
Competitive mechanism to iterate, discover, test and scale
55:05
novel ways of fighting with and against AI
55:09
enabled capabilities.
55:11
It sounds like they hired someone from Silicon
55:13
Valley to write that copy.
55:14
Combining America's elite war fighting units with elite
55:17
technology innovators.
55:19
Yes, I think you're right.
55:20
Swarm Forge.
55:21
I like, I want to, I want a
55:22
badge.
55:24
I want to write that down.
55:26
Swarm Forge.
55:29
Swarm Forge.
55:30
Then we have Agent Network.
55:32
Unleashing AI agent development and experimentation for AI
55:36
enabled battle management and decision support from campaign
55:39
planning to kill chain execution.
55:43
This is what?
55:45
Kill chain execution?
55:47
Yes.
55:48
Oh, this is Silicon Valley talk.
55:50
Then we have the Enders.
55:51
Who the hell got in there from Silicon
55:53
Valley with all this gobbledygook?
55:55
Google, I think mainly.
55:58
Enders Foundry.
56:00
Enders Foundry.
56:02
Accelerating AI enabled simulation capabilities and SimDev and
56:07
SimOps feedback loops.
56:09
SimDev.
56:12
To ensure we stay ahead of AI enabled
56:15
adversaries.
56:16
Then we have under intelligence.
56:17
That was all war fighting.
56:18
Now under intelligence.
56:20
Open Arsenal.
56:22
Who comes up with these?
56:24
They're not very good.
56:26
And, uh, yeah.
56:28
Open Arsenal is no good.
56:30
No, I like Swarm Forge though.
56:32
I like that.
56:33
I don't know why you like that.
56:35
Wording doesn't make any sense.
56:36
Swarm Forge.
56:39
The whole thing doesn't make any sense if
56:41
you think of the two words.
56:42
I think Swarm Forge would be an Eagle
56:45
Scout badge you can get.
56:46
I got my Swarm Forge.
56:47
Show title.
56:48
Put it down to the list.
56:49
No, I wrote it down.
56:52
And then, of course, the last thing, uh,
56:55
on, uh, on the big tech agenda was
56:58
the big outage.
56:59
The big outage.
57:00
And good evening.
57:01
We begin tonight with the nation's largest cell
57:03
phone service provider in the middle of one
57:05
of the worst outages ever.
57:07
Customers across the country unable to call, text,
57:10
or scroll.
57:11
It's kind of like Iran.
57:12
As the company scrambles to get fully back
57:15
up and running.
57:16
How pathetic are we as a nation?
57:18
Let's just, let's just listen to it.
57:20
Unable to call.
57:20
Yeah, it was here to go.
57:22
Customers across the country unable to call, text,
57:26
or scroll.
57:26
Oh no, my life is over.
57:28
I can't call, text, or scroll.
57:30
Oh, what am I going to do?
57:32
As the company scrambles to get fully back
57:34
up and running.
57:35
Scroll what?
57:35
Huh?
57:37
Wait, scroll what?
57:38
I can scroll.
57:39
Not, not, yeah.
57:41
Ah, please, please let's not go through this
57:45
loop again where you tell everybody that you're
57:47
great on the computer.
57:48
You got a desktop and you can scroll.
57:49
People don't even have.
57:50
No, no, I can scroll on a phone
57:51
with Verizon being out.
57:54
Yeah, yeah.
57:55
What are you going to scroll?
57:56
You like a text?
57:57
Like, just like a.
57:58
There's stuff on the, on the phone to
58:00
scroll.
58:01
Look at this map.
58:02
These are just some of the most populated
58:04
areas of the country and the hardest hit
58:07
by the outage.
58:07
This is what many customers saw today on
58:10
their phones.
58:11
The dreaded SOS, meaning no bars and no
58:14
service.
58:15
Oh no, it's dreaded.
58:17
City officials from New York to Charlotte to
58:20
DC even warning that impacted customers might not
58:23
be able to get through to 911.
58:26
Now Verizon is racing to fix the problem
58:28
and find out what exactly went wrong.
58:30
Brian Chung is following all of it for
58:32
us tonight.
58:32
Well, Brian Chung, guess, guess who they blame?
58:36
It's almost, it's almost like us blaming Canada.
58:40
I, I don't know who they, would they
58:43
blame that Putin?
58:44
I don't know.
58:45
No, New Jersey.
58:47
Tonight, the major meltdown for the nation's largest
58:50
wireless carrier.
58:51
Your call cannot be completed at this time.
58:54
Verizon customers across the country cut off by
58:57
a massive network outage.
58:59
The trouble began around noon Eastern time with
59:01
the outage tracking website downdetector.com listing New
59:04
York, Philadelphia, Houston, Atlanta, and Miami as among
59:08
the places with the most reported issues.
59:11
Emergency management teams in multiple cities warning that
59:14
people may not be able to call 911.
59:17
If you have access to a landline, use
59:19
that.
59:20
And if that is impossible, go to a
59:23
police precinct or go to a firehouse.
59:24
Verizon customers taking to social media expressing outrage
59:27
that they couldn't contact loved ones.
59:29
Baby, this is unacceptable.
59:33
Great Nat pop.
59:35
Connected for work.
59:37
Counter days because I literally had to stop
59:40
at Starbucks.
59:41
Verizon telling NBC News that their team was
59:43
on the ground actively working to fix the
59:46
issue, adding that we know this is a
59:48
huge inconvenience.
59:49
The company did not provide a reason for
59:52
the outage.
59:53
Verizon with more than 146 million wireless customers
59:56
often promotes itself as the most reliable network
1:00:00
with its famous catch line.
1:00:01
There's only one best 5G.
1:00:03
You hear me now?
1:00:05
But tonight, the advice from officials for when
1:00:07
you can't.
1:00:08
It's also a good reminder for people to
1:00:11
have an emergency plan to have backups.
1:00:14
Plan A, Plan B.
1:00:16
Yeah.
1:00:17
Ham radio is your backup.
1:00:19
Ham radio.
1:00:20
Have you seen the new bow fangs?
1:00:24
The new what?
1:00:25
The new bow fangs.
1:00:27
Uh, no, I haven't.
1:00:29
Oh, man, they're completely digital.
1:00:31
They got a huge still 35 bucks.
1:00:33
It's still so cheap.
1:00:35
It's still 30.
1:00:36
And you can get 10 watts out of
1:00:38
them, which, of course, is outside of the
1:00:40
realm of legality, according to the.
1:00:42
Well, it's also not too good for your
1:00:43
health or this blister head.
1:00:45
Yeah, well, that's true.
1:00:47
So anyway, I have other clips, but it
1:00:49
turns out it was a software glitch in
1:00:51
New Jersey.
1:00:52
OK.
1:00:54
What kind of world are we?
1:00:55
The Internet, everything.
1:00:56
It's also centralized.
1:00:57
This is not how we designed it, John.
1:00:59
You and I, we sat down like we're
1:01:01
not going to.
1:01:02
We shouldn't design this this way.
1:01:03
The whole idea of the Internet was designed
1:01:05
to withstand a nuclear attack.
1:01:10
Yes.
1:01:10
That was the idea.
1:01:11
That was the plan.
1:01:12
Let's set up a network.
1:01:14
Whatever happens, you can bomb New York City
1:01:16
with a H-bomb and the network would
1:01:21
still be going because it goes from here
1:01:23
and if it gets blocked here, it goes
1:01:25
around and it goes over the here and
1:01:27
then it goes around.
1:01:28
And so when did that change to like
1:01:31
three nodes?
1:01:34
That's what it is.
1:01:35
Although, you know, I have the Galaxy, new
1:01:38
Galaxy phone that I got, the flip flip
1:01:41
phone because I need to do real business.
1:01:44
So now I'm tracked, but it does.
1:01:47
It is one of those phones that can
1:01:48
talk.
1:01:48
What real business are you doing that you
1:01:50
need to be tracked?
1:01:51
No, not tracked.
1:01:52
I need to be able to communicate with
1:01:53
people who are on iPhones because if you
1:01:56
can't do that with your other phone, if
1:01:58
you if you don't have an RCS compatible
1:02:01
phone, which is the is supposed to be
1:02:03
the hybrid so that, you know, iPhones and
1:02:07
Android phones can talk to each other when
1:02:09
you're texting.
1:02:10
The chances are that your message won't come
1:02:12
through, will get missed.
1:02:14
You get kicked out of a group are
1:02:15
very high.
1:02:17
Oh, no.
1:02:18
Yeah.
1:02:19
So, yes, terrible.
1:02:21
Yeah, I have a business.
1:02:22
I'm running a business over here.
1:02:23
It's called Godcaster.
1:02:24
You know that, I guess.
1:02:29
So Godcaster requires you to be in the
1:02:32
in the network to be tracked.
1:02:33
Well, no, it requires me to be able
1:02:35
to communicate with the worst communicators in the
1:02:38
world, which are pastors.
1:02:40
Oh, yeah.
1:02:43
So but by default, then you get tracked.
1:02:45
Of course.
1:02:46
Let's just have a second phone.
1:02:48
What difference does it make?
1:02:50
OK.
1:02:50
All right.
1:02:50
Thanks.
1:02:51
Well, because you can drive around without the
1:02:53
second phone.
1:02:54
Well, I guess I'm driving around with my
1:02:56
phone.
1:02:58
When I'm driving, I'm driving.
1:02:59
I'm not on my phone.
1:03:01
I'm not texting people.
1:03:02
I'm listening to podcasts.
1:03:04
That's why I'm imagining you on the phone
1:03:07
texting while driving and.
1:03:09
No.
1:03:10
And then holding the phone up to your
1:03:11
ear and yelling at somebody.
1:03:13
I barely drive.
1:03:14
Just missing an old lady in the street
1:03:16
because you weren't paying attention.
1:03:17
Yeah, this is what I'm seeing.
1:03:19
I don't.
1:03:19
I'm visualizing.
1:03:20
Don't even drive.
1:03:21
There's nowhere to go.
1:03:22
H.E.B. is three minutes away.
1:03:24
I'm not a driver anymore.
1:03:27
I'm just an old coot doing a podcast.
1:03:29
Thanks.
1:03:30
You've got me finally.
1:03:34
You go to San Antone.
1:03:36
Oh, yeah.
1:03:37
Big trip to San Antone.
1:03:41
Big smoke, everybody going to San Antone.
1:03:43
Yeah.
1:03:44
No, the two big trips I make are
1:03:45
to the hair, the hair girl and to
1:03:47
Rogan.
1:03:48
That's about it.
1:03:50
When have you done Rogan last?
1:03:52
Yeah, it's been a while.
1:03:57
Certain to show.
1:03:58
Oh, please.
1:03:59
Go do Rogan.
1:04:00
I've been on Rogan six times.
1:04:01
Hey, we got a donation today.
1:04:03
I was just looking at the notes and
1:04:04
somebody credited your visit to Megyn Kelly for
1:04:08
the donation.
1:04:08
That happens.
1:04:09
Yeah, I think that's great.
1:04:11
She's also not burning down the phone here.
1:04:14
Well, she doesn't.
1:04:15
You don't even like her.
1:04:16
I do like her.
1:04:17
I like her a lot, but, you know,
1:04:19
I'm not in the circle.
1:04:20
Remember when I was the last time I
1:04:21
was on and she bumped me like five
1:04:23
times for Glenn Beck.
1:04:26
Because, you know, what happened?
1:04:27
Something happened.
1:04:29
You called her out for Putin hate.
1:04:33
You look like a Putin apologist.
1:04:35
That's you.
1:04:35
You're in the list.
1:04:36
Oh, yeah, you're right.
1:04:37
Putin-ness.
1:04:37
Putin-ness.
1:04:38
That's what it was.
1:04:39
Yes, you're right.
1:04:40
Yeah, well, my mistake.
1:04:43
Yeah, you and Putin, you guys, you should
1:04:45
get a room.
1:04:46
All right.
1:04:47
All right.
1:04:47
I know you got some clips, but I
1:04:49
have to play this because there's a big
1:04:52
change.
1:04:53
Big change.
1:04:54
Big thing happened.
1:04:56
For the first time since we've been doing
1:04:58
this show, since the IPCC was the Paris
1:05:05
Agreement, I should say.
1:05:07
It was not 2025 was no longer the
1:05:11
hottest year on record.
1:05:13
This is amazing.
1:05:14
Global temperatures in 2025 was slightly lower than
1:05:17
2024, but that still makes it the third
1:05:19
hottest year on record across the globe.
1:05:21
Third, oh brother, you came up with something.
1:05:22
The third.
1:05:23
The third.
1:05:24
The top ten.
1:05:25
A study by the Met Office and European
1:05:27
Climate Scientists also found it was the third
1:05:30
year in a row in which temperatures reached
1:05:32
more than 1.4 degrees Celsius above pre
1:05:35
-industrial levels.
1:05:37
Dr. Samantha Burgess is the Deputy Director of
1:05:39
the Copernicus Climate Change Service.
1:05:42
She told me what this all means for
1:05:43
the planet.
1:05:44
Yeah, so the key findings from this year's
1:05:46
report was that 2025 was the third warmest
1:05:49
year on record after 2024 and 2023.
1:05:52
The global temperature anomaly was 1.47 degrees
1:05:56
above the pre-industrial average, which is an
1:05:58
average of the global climate before significant human
1:06:01
impact on the climate from burning fossil fuels.
1:06:04
And 2025 marks three years above 1.5
1:06:07
degrees.
1:06:08
And this is important as we're now 10
1:06:10
years on from the Paris Agreement, where almost
1:06:12
every nation committed to lower global warming to
1:06:14
well below 2 degrees, ideally below 1.5
1:06:17
degrees.
1:06:18
Ideally.
1:06:19
So it's working.
1:06:21
If you want to, you could also report,
1:06:23
wow, it's working, everybody.
1:06:24
Everyone is driving electric cars and it's fantastic.
1:06:28
And we're now down to number three.
1:06:30
This is classic, what you just said.
1:06:32
You can report it any way you want.
1:06:34
You can report it as a good thing
1:06:36
or the reversal.
1:06:37
And you could.
1:06:38
Actually, I think that's the mistake.
1:06:40
They just made it.
1:06:41
They made the mistake.
1:06:41
They should say, thanks to our efforts.
1:06:46
Yes.
1:06:48
Electrolyzing, electrolyzing, electrifying.
1:06:51
Electrification.
1:06:52
This and that.
1:06:54
This is working.
1:06:55
And it looks like things may be going
1:06:58
in the right direction.
1:06:59
No, no, they don't do that.
1:07:02
It's gloom and doom, no matter what.
1:07:03
Yeah, yeah.
1:07:05
Yeah, it's bullcrap.
1:07:06
That's why.
1:07:06
Yeah.
1:07:07
All right.
1:07:07
What you got?
1:07:08
And I'll let you go because we got
1:07:09
a bunch of stuff.
1:07:10
I wanted to get, you know, I think
1:07:12
this deportation, the Sudan clips, which I had
1:07:15
from Al Jazeera.
1:07:17
This is not widely reported.
1:07:19
No, it's not.
1:07:20
You know, Trump has decided, you know, the
1:07:22
Trump administration has decided to ship people to
1:07:26
Africa when they deport them.
1:07:28
Okay.
1:07:29
And so now the big move is to
1:07:31
ship them to South Sudan.
1:07:34
All right.
1:07:35
And so there's some background on it.
1:07:37
This is, I guess, three clips.
1:07:40
Actually, it's interesting.
1:07:41
Yeah, well, you have two Sudan number two.
1:07:44
So it'll be interesting to see which one
1:07:45
I have.
1:07:46
I'm supposed to play.
1:07:49
Are they the same time?
1:07:50
No.
1:07:50
One is two minutes and one is one
1:07:52
minute.
1:07:52
Okay.
1:07:53
One of them is obviously the third.
1:07:55
Yeah, obviously.
1:07:56
We just, which one is what we don't
1:07:57
know?
1:07:59
Well, we don't know.
1:08:01
Let's play the intro.
1:08:02
We'll play the intro first and then we'll
1:08:03
figure it out.
1:08:04
Clip one.
1:08:04
These are democratic values that we remember, Stephanie,
1:08:06
that we're hard fought for.
1:08:07
And blood was shed for us to gain
1:08:09
independence and for us to gain this democracy
1:08:12
that we are seeing fail at this moment.
1:08:13
So we must stand up and say, no,
1:08:15
we're not going to.
1:08:16
What is happening here?
1:08:17
Okay.
1:08:18
Okay.
1:08:18
What is going on?
1:08:20
Okay.
1:08:21
He starts.
1:08:22
I had this.
1:08:22
I couldn't start.
1:08:23
I couldn't play the whole bit.
1:08:25
It was a half hour.
1:08:26
So he's going on about Sudan being a
1:08:29
democracy.
1:08:30
Who?
1:08:31
Who's going on about Sudan?
1:08:32
One of the Al Jazeera Sudan experts.
1:08:39
Oh, okay.
1:08:40
And so he's going on about how they
1:08:42
can't put up with having a bunch of
1:08:44
people shipped there from the United States where
1:08:47
they don't know anything about anything and they're
1:08:49
not Sudanese.
1:08:52
And so it just starts off as a
1:08:54
rant and it resolves itself as the clips
1:08:58
continue.
1:08:59
And these are democratic values.
1:09:01
I do remember, Stephanie, that we had fought
1:09:02
for and blood was shed for us to
1:09:04
gain independence and for us to gain this
1:09:06
democracy that we are seeing fail at this
1:09:08
moment.
1:09:09
So we must stand up and say, no,
1:09:10
we're not going to allow our leaders to
1:09:12
get into these agreements without consulting us, the
1:09:15
people, without consulting civil society.
1:09:17
And worst of all, in Eswatini, without consulting
1:09:20
Parliament, who actually has the sovereign right according
1:09:22
to the constitution to scrutinize whatever agreement our
1:09:26
executive gets into.
1:09:28
Absolutely.
1:09:29
And picking up on that point, there was
1:09:30
a lot of articles I was reading really
1:09:31
underlying the racist tone of this from the
1:09:34
Trump administration.
1:09:36
Now, more and more African content creators are
1:09:38
expressing frustrations over why their content is being
1:09:41
used for these deporting schemes, like this gentleman
1:09:43
on TikTok.
1:09:44
So what, we're just dropping them off?
1:09:46
We're just flying them over there and dropping
1:09:47
them off?
1:09:48
We intend to, from what I can tell.
1:09:53
And so basically, and the agreement, the way
1:09:58
I understand it is that we're not just
1:10:00
dropping them off.
1:10:01
We're putting them in prisons over there.
1:10:04
And then the Sudanese will have to deal
1:10:06
with them, whatever they want to do.
1:10:08
They can take them in and they can
1:10:10
kick them out or release.
1:10:13
I mean, this is, it's almost comical, but
1:10:16
let's start with the two minute clip.
1:10:18
Well, the situation of these deals, around these
1:10:22
deals, adds further complexity to South Sudan, already
1:10:26
fragile environments, illustrating how external powers may exploit
1:10:32
vulnerability.
1:10:33
And this is something that many people are
1:10:36
expressing about South Sudan.
1:10:37
It's a country on its knees.
1:10:39
It's a country that is facing multiple humanitarian
1:10:42
crises.
1:10:43
So is this something that they're taking advantage
1:10:45
of, so they can dump these men, so
1:10:47
to speak, in those terms, because there's not
1:10:49
much the government can do or they want
1:10:51
the money?
1:10:52
I doubt if it is just the money.
1:10:55
Because the countries are not really uniform.
1:10:57
There are countries where people actually could get
1:10:59
some small money.
1:11:01
But the people behind this decision in South
1:11:03
Sudan are very wealthy.
1:11:05
And actually, they got into a problem because
1:11:07
of corruptions in the past.
1:11:09
And there had been sanctions by the US.
1:11:12
And they were hoping that if they could
1:11:14
do a deal like this, those sanctions might
1:11:17
be lifted or at least some ease on
1:11:19
those sanctions from the US.
1:11:21
So it's a bit different from a country
1:11:23
to a country.
1:11:24
But the fundamental similarity is really the vulnerability
1:11:29
of the countries that are being targeted.
1:11:32
Yes, we heard that there have been countries
1:11:34
who have rejected this and they're not sending
1:11:36
them to Italy or to Malaysia.
1:11:40
Melusi, Trump is not the first US president
1:11:43
to carry out deportations.
1:11:45
We saw it under George W.
1:11:46
Bush.
1:11:47
We saw it under Barack Obama.
1:11:49
But he's doing it in a very different
1:11:51
way.
1:11:52
Why is that?
1:11:52
I think, as I mentioned earlier, Stephanie, they
1:11:55
are parading what it means to an American.
1:11:57
And it goes back to this conversation around
1:11:59
bolstering their exceptionalism, because they can see that
1:12:02
their power is waning around the world.
1:12:04
Nobody is taking them as serious as perhaps
1:12:06
they would have post-Cold War.
1:12:09
And I think they are now using these
1:12:11
deportations as sort of a weapon to say
1:12:13
it costs so much to an American.
1:12:15
And it's going to cost as much to
1:12:18
get into a trade deal with us.
1:12:19
This is really risky to play all this
1:12:21
Africa news this early in the show.
1:12:23
It might hurt the show.
1:12:26
Well, it's so funny that the idea of
1:12:28
this, I think it was missing the point
1:12:31
about shipping these guys off to God knows
1:12:35
where Africa.
1:12:36
You know, you got a deportee and he's
1:12:38
like a bad guy.
1:12:40
And so you were going to ship him,
1:12:41
drop him off in Africa.
1:12:43
This is not like sending him across the
1:12:45
border, kicking him off, you know, kicking him
1:12:47
in the butt on the Mexican border and
1:12:49
saying, get out of here.
1:12:52
This is a couple of interesting historical aspects.
1:12:56
Eisenhower deported a bunch of people and shipped
1:12:59
them all to the Yucatan Peninsula, someplace where
1:13:02
there's nothing to do there.
1:13:03
What kind of people?
1:13:04
Were they illegal immigrants?
1:13:06
There was Mexican, you know, Mexicans, but they
1:13:09
were...
1:13:09
They sent them to a part of Mexico
1:13:11
that they're not from.
1:13:13
And it was like a pain in the
1:13:14
ass when they got there and how to
1:13:15
get out of here.
1:13:17
And so then if you recall, during the
1:13:19
era of the show, the British wanted to
1:13:22
send their guys off to Rwanda, which I
1:13:26
thought was funny.
1:13:28
And so we're going to ship you.
1:13:29
You're coming here illegally.
1:13:31
You're going to Rwanda.
1:13:33
And so which is kind of the whole
1:13:36
idea is to discourage people from coming in.
1:13:40
Yes, from coming in because you're going to
1:13:41
end up in the middle of nowhere, Africa.
1:13:44
And then now what are you going to
1:13:45
do?
1:13:45
How do you get out of there?
1:13:47
So, you know, that's kind of the thing
1:13:48
where they get thrown in a jail or
1:13:50
not.
1:13:50
It doesn't matter.
1:13:52
Just drop them off.
1:13:53
So I find it to be kind of
1:13:55
interesting.
1:13:56
And they're not doing it, though.
1:13:57
I mean, there's a set for the jail.
1:14:00
I hadn't even heard about it.
1:14:01
I don't know why Sudan is all upset
1:14:02
that I haven't heard the president out there
1:14:04
saying we're shipping you off to Sudan.
1:14:07
This has been going on.
1:14:09
It's been negotiating.
1:14:10
They're trying to do a deal with the
1:14:11
South Sudanese government to pay him money.
1:14:14
We're going to give you a couple hundred
1:14:16
bucks per guy.
1:14:17
And we're going to drop these guys off.
1:14:19
You can do what you're supposed to put
1:14:21
him in jail, but you could do what
1:14:22
you want.
1:14:22
So basically what we're hearing on Al Jazeera
1:14:25
is a bunch of Sudanese Democrats who hate
1:14:27
Trump.
1:14:29
Basically, that's what you're hearing.
1:14:31
Yeah.
1:14:32
But the fact that this kind of stuff
1:14:33
is going on in the background, to me,
1:14:35
seems at least amusing as hell.
1:14:38
We all got news that the United States
1:14:41
deported some of the violent criminals, as they
1:14:46
call it, to some of our African countries.
1:14:48
They deported some to Eswatini.
1:14:51
They also deported some of them to South
1:14:54
Sudan.
1:14:54
Why is it that whenever they want to
1:14:57
dump their stuff, or they want to dump
1:15:01
anything, and now that it has to do
1:15:03
with these violent criminals, the best place that
1:15:08
they think they should deport these people to
1:15:11
is Africa.
1:15:13
Why is it always Africa?
1:15:14
Do we do with our expired drugs?
1:15:16
Like I said before, if we start getting
1:15:18
it every now and then, they will start
1:15:20
coming for our videos.
1:15:22
They will start flagging us and all of
1:15:23
that.
1:15:23
But why?
1:15:25
Why is it that- Why not?
1:15:26
They always think that all the bad things
1:15:29
should always go to Africa.
1:15:30
When they want to carry out their test,
1:15:32
when they need human beings to use like
1:15:35
guinea pigs to carry out their test, their
1:15:37
trial processes, it's Africa.
1:15:40
Bill Gates.
1:15:40
What's your reaction to that?
1:15:42
Do you feel the same way?
1:15:43
Okay.
1:15:44
All right.
1:15:44
So now, finally, we come to the end
1:15:46
of the series.
1:15:47
Okay.
1:15:47
And there's something in here, this is a
1:15:49
WTF clip, which means there's something either particularly
1:15:52
odd or particularly funny.
1:15:54
Daniel, I want to broaden this out at
1:15:56
this point.
1:15:56
When we talk about immigration, migration, of course,
1:15:59
this is due to a lot of social
1:16:01
and economic reasons.
1:16:02
But, you know, many are also now talking
1:16:04
about climate change.
1:16:05
There is going to be more and more
1:16:07
migration from areas like Africa, for example, to
1:16:11
further north because places are simply going to
1:16:14
become uninhabitable.
1:16:15
Haven't you heard?
1:16:17
Last year was number three on the list.
1:16:19
It's going down.
1:16:20
It's okay.
1:16:20
All right.
1:16:21
That was your Africa news.
1:16:23
Please let me play your Iran killings clip
1:16:26
unless you have a different Iran clip.
1:16:28
Do I have any Iran clips?
1:16:30
Yeah.
1:16:30
Iran killings right here.
1:16:31
Iran killings.
1:16:33
Okay, let's play Iran killings.
1:16:34
Flight of momentary a posture shift from the
1:16:36
president's escalating threats against the Iranian regime over
1:16:40
the past few weeks.
1:16:41
That's as anti-Iranian regime protests have grown,
1:16:44
as has the regime's crackdown on protesters with
1:16:47
horrifying footage of body bags at Tehran's morgues.
1:16:50
And now showing us a glimpse of that
1:16:52
of that bloody crackdown as authorities have also
1:16:54
blocked the Internet off there since Thursday.
1:16:58
And President Trump has in recent weeks said
1:17:00
that help is on the way at one
1:17:02
point, saying that the U.S. is locked
1:17:03
and loaded and ready to go, urging protesters
1:17:06
to keep protesting.
1:17:08
On Monday, the U.S. State Department urged
1:17:10
Americans to leave Iran.
1:17:12
But now President Trump saying he's been told
1:17:14
on, quote, good authority that the killing has
1:17:16
stopped.
1:17:17
We have been informed by very important sources
1:17:20
on the other side, and they've said the
1:17:22
killing has stopped and the executions won't take
1:17:24
place.
1:17:25
There was supposed to be a lot of
1:17:26
executions today and that the executions won't take
1:17:29
place.
1:17:30
And we're going to find out.
1:17:31
This comes a day after President Trump warned
1:17:33
of very strong action in response to reports
1:17:35
of the regime hanging those detained during the
1:17:38
protests.
1:17:39
He says he's watching Iran as the Pentagon
1:17:41
today withdraws some troops from a key base
1:17:43
in Qatar, echoing a move taken before U
1:17:45
.S. strikes on Iran's nuclear facilities back in
1:17:48
June.
1:17:49
Now, I question this 12000 killed.
1:17:52
To me, this feels like an EU move.
1:17:57
I question all of it.
1:17:59
I mean, the information is coming from very
1:18:01
sketchy sources and the Internet guy.
1:18:05
I mean, there's troublemakers everywhere.
1:18:07
I mean, as possible as 20000 dead, they
1:18:09
could have whole cities could be wiped out.
1:18:11
But the one thing they were going to
1:18:13
do and because they said they were, and
1:18:15
I think it may not happen now, is
1:18:17
that there's one kid, this 26 year old
1:18:20
that they're cited that this could be bullshit,
1:18:23
too.
1:18:23
But they cited him as the first guy
1:18:25
they're going to hang.
1:18:26
They're going to hang him.
1:18:28
But they're not just going to hang him.
1:18:30
They were going to hang him from a
1:18:31
crane.
1:18:33
So it's like one of those five story
1:18:34
cranes that goes way up to the service
1:18:38
buildings and whatever, this big, giant crane in
1:18:40
the middle of Tehran.
1:18:42
They were going to have him dangling from
1:18:43
that.
1:18:44
It was pretty gruesome, the idea.
1:18:46
But it was like a show of force.
1:18:48
We'll show them.
1:18:49
And that would have ended the regime.
1:18:52
Yeah.
1:18:53
To me, it feels like this is meant
1:18:55
somehow to drag us in or distract attention.
1:18:59
And it seems like the president is kind
1:19:01
of like, well, you know, they said the
1:19:02
killings are stopped.
1:19:03
It doesn't really sound like we're going to
1:19:05
do anything.
1:19:05
He's talked a bit about it.
1:19:08
But it just sounds like, no, stay away.
1:19:10
He's got much bigger things he's doing.
1:19:13
And to me, you know, the whole Shah
1:19:15
of Iran, it's all France.
1:19:17
France has got to be involved in this
1:19:19
if it's an op.
1:19:20
And this was funny.
1:19:22
Brett Baer on Fox, he had an interview
1:19:25
with Iran's foreign minister.
1:19:28
And he's discussing it with, what's his face?
1:19:31
John Roberts.
1:19:32
It was kind of interesting.
1:19:34
What the foreign minister came up with, it's
1:19:36
a classic.
1:19:37
And essentially, what he's saying is that this
1:19:40
was a Mossad operation.
1:19:42
Yeah, there we go.
1:19:42
They were, they looked like Iranian agents designed
1:19:46
to kill a large number of people.
1:19:49
And that that was designed to spark President
1:19:53
Trump's action into Iran.
1:19:56
And I said, Mr. Foreign Minister, if that's
1:19:59
true, you don't have control of your country.
1:20:01
Because there are agents all over the place
1:20:05
killing people indiscriminately in the streets.
1:20:09
And, you know, we went round and round.
1:20:12
Also, he said it was designed to taunt
1:20:14
President Trump.
1:20:17
But if anybody's taunting President Trump, it is
1:20:20
the ayatollah himself, the supreme leader.
1:20:22
Yeah, because he took to ecstasy some things
1:20:24
about the president.
1:20:25
And also, there's this headline in the New
1:20:27
York Post that the Iranian state TV posted
1:20:32
an image of President Trump at the Butler
1:20:34
Rally as the Secret Service is whisking him
1:20:36
off the stage.
1:20:37
And it said with the caption, this time,
1:20:40
it will not miss its target, which is
1:20:42
more than a failed threat of assassination against
1:20:46
the president, which I'm sure will only serve
1:20:48
to piss him off.
1:20:50
I say put a bikini on him.
1:20:52
If we're going to do X wars, we
1:20:53
might as well.
1:20:55
Stupid.
1:20:56
Something is very fishy about this.
1:20:58
It doesn't smell right at all.
1:21:01
So the crown prince, quote unquote, who lives
1:21:05
in the D.C. area, he wanted to
1:21:08
go meet with Trump, as we heard from
1:21:10
Raz, the squirrel spook.
1:21:13
And Trump said, nah.
1:21:15
And he said, why don't you go meet
1:21:17
with Whitkoff and Rubio over there?
1:21:20
Go meet at some other place.
1:21:21
I'm not interested in talking to you.
1:21:23
So one of our boots on the ground
1:21:25
says, we know the young Shah well.
1:21:30
This is the crown prince.
1:21:31
In fact, I did some formation flying with
1:21:33
him just three months ago.
1:21:35
He was flying with a former U.S.
1:21:37
Air Force Thunderbird pilot.
1:21:41
And let's see, he has no interest in
1:21:43
becoming a monarch and only wants to help
1:21:45
usher in a transition to a functional democracy.
1:21:51
That sounds like it's dubious.
1:21:55
The whole thing is dubious.
1:21:57
And here's a report from France 24.
1:22:01
The woman you hear speaking is a representative
1:22:04
from Chatham House, which is basically the MI6,
1:22:08
Council on Foreign Relations.
1:22:11
The protests in Iran, which have been met
1:22:13
by a bloody response, were sparked by economic
1:22:16
distress, the collapse of Iran's currency and soaring
1:22:20
prices to impart international sanctions.
1:22:22
As the opposition has grown to challenge the
1:22:25
regime, experts say there are doubts about whether
1:22:27
it has the structure and momentum to endure.
1:22:31
It's not as if the Iranian diaspora over
1:22:34
50 years has created a unified, integrated protest
1:22:37
movement.
1:22:38
It's very fractured.
1:22:39
It's not united.
1:22:40
Some Iranians are putting their hope in the
1:22:42
son of the last Shah of Iran, deposed
1:22:44
in 1979.
1:22:46
Reza Pavlavi now lives in exile in the
1:22:48
U.S. And speaking to Fox News, he
1:22:50
said he could lead a transition to a
1:22:52
democratic system.
1:22:53
We have come to the point where people
1:22:55
are just fed up with this regime.
1:22:57
They are saying death to the dictator.
1:22:59
They want to liberate themselves.
1:23:01
And their demand for freedom is met with
1:23:03
the most brutal reaction by a regime that
1:23:05
is waging war on its own citizens.
1:23:08
Heir to a dictatorial regime and thought to
1:23:10
be close to the Israeli government, it's unclear
1:23:12
if Pavlavi has wide support among Iranians who
1:23:15
oppose the Islamic Republic.
1:23:16
The People's Mujahideen of Iran, based in France,
1:23:19
sought to represent an alternative to the monarchists,
1:23:22
but was seen as having lost credibility after
1:23:24
siding with Saddam Hussein during the Iran-Iraq
1:23:27
War.
1:23:28
And minorities in Iran, such as the Kurds,
1:23:30
have political agendas of their own that go
1:23:32
beyond regime change.
1:23:34
There are plenty of activism and ideas and
1:23:37
agency that exists inside the country.
1:23:40
But many Iranian opposition figures and leaders are
1:23:44
in Iran's jails.
1:23:45
In the past, the Islamic Republic has eventually
1:23:48
crushed any attempt to organize resistance.
1:23:50
And many are now wondering if this time
1:23:52
will be different.
1:23:55
Yeah, I don't know.
1:23:56
I don't know.
1:23:57
We had a clip on the last show
1:23:58
that they're releasing some of these prisoners.
1:24:00
So there's that.
1:24:01
Yeah, I don't know.
1:24:03
It feels like it's just been started up
1:24:06
as a thing.
1:24:08
I mean, even when I talked to Alex,
1:24:10
he's like, man, you know, there's some protesting.
1:24:12
It felt like a lot.
1:24:13
And also, a lot of the video you're
1:24:15
seeing isn't even from Iran.
1:24:17
It's Egypt.
1:24:18
It's all other countries.
1:24:19
You can't trust what you're seeing on social
1:24:21
media.
1:24:21
No, you can't trust anything you see online.
1:24:23
You can't even trust us.
1:24:25
Well, you can trust us.
1:24:27
Oh, OK, just checking.
1:24:29
What are you thinking?
1:24:32
OK, let's talk about Greenland for a moment,
1:24:35
because this is...
1:24:37
We've got to figure this out.
1:24:39
And it seems like...
1:24:43
Well, here we go.
1:24:44
Let's start with ABC.
1:24:45
Tonight, as President Trump escalates his push to
1:24:48
take over Greenland, top officials from Greenland and
1:24:50
Denmark traveling to Washington to plead their case
1:24:54
to the vice president and secretary of state.
1:24:56
But they emerged saying the two sides have
1:24:58
a, quote, fundamental disagreement.
1:25:01
We didn't manage to change the American position.
1:25:05
It's clear that the president has this wish
1:25:09
of conquering over Greenland.
1:25:13
We made it very, very clear that this
1:25:15
is not in the interest of the kingdom.
1:25:17
Trump says the U.S. needs Greenland for
1:25:19
national security and has not ruled out using
1:25:22
military force to get it.
1:25:24
I would like to make a deal, you
1:25:25
know, the easy way.
1:25:26
But if we don't do it the easy
1:25:27
way, we're going to do it the hard
1:25:28
way.
1:25:29
Denmark, our NATO ally, says they're happy to
1:25:31
work with the U.S. to bolster security
1:25:34
in the region.
1:25:34
But that doesn't mean that we want to
1:25:37
be owned by a United States.
1:25:40
A new poll shows 86 percent of voters,
1:25:42
including 68 percent of Republicans, oppose using military
1:25:46
force to seize Greenland.
1:25:48
And as Trump ramps up his threats, Denmark
1:25:51
now increasing their military presence in Greenland and
1:25:54
asking other NATO allies to help, Sweden today
1:25:57
also sending troops.
1:25:59
Tonight, Republican Senator Mitch McConnell warning if the
1:26:01
U.S. takes on a NATO ally, it
1:26:03
would be incinerating the hard-won trust of
1:26:06
loyal allies.
1:26:08
But President Trump insists NATO would be stronger
1:26:11
with Greenland, quote, in the hands of the
1:26:13
United States.
1:26:14
Adding anything less than that is unacceptable.
1:26:17
And we'll see how it all works out.
1:26:19
I think something will work out.
1:26:21
And David, we have just learned that France,
1:26:23
at the request of Denmark, is also sending
1:26:25
military forces to Greenland.
1:26:26
And again, President Trump says this is all
1:26:28
about national security.
1:26:29
He says Russia and China are poised to
1:26:32
take Greenland.
1:26:33
But the officials visiting here today insist that's
1:26:35
simply not true.
1:26:36
They say they haven't seen a Chinese warship
1:26:38
in Greenland in over a decade.
1:26:40
But both sides tonight agreeing to keep talking.
1:26:43
So this is the big news in Europe.
1:26:45
Everybody's talking about all the troops going to
1:26:47
Greenland and they're doing NATO exercises.
1:26:50
NATO forces are on exercise in Greenland at
1:26:53
a time when American designs on the island
1:26:55
threaten the alliance's very existence.
1:26:57
NATO has not confirmed its approval of the
1:27:00
drills, which reportedly involve troops from Sweden, Germany,
1:27:03
France, the Netherlands and Canada.
1:27:05
Hosts Denmark framed it as part of a
1:27:07
bolstering of Greenland's defences.
1:27:10
It is within the framework of NATO that
1:27:12
we are conducting these activities.
1:27:14
And it is Denmark as the host country
1:27:16
that has taken these initiatives.
1:27:18
Therefore, I cannot imagine, nor do I want
1:27:20
to speculate, that a NATO country would attack.
1:27:24
France says it's acting in full solidarity with
1:27:26
Denmark.
1:27:26
Prime Minister Sébastien Lecornu warned that Washington must
1:27:30
be taken at its word.
1:27:31
It is clear that the intentions of the
1:27:33
Trump administration are serious and that we must
1:27:36
absolutely not underestimate the words of the American
1:27:38
president.
1:27:40
NATO Chief Mark Reaser will meet a delegation
1:27:43
from Denmark and Greenland on Monday in Brussels.
1:27:46
It's unclear whether this particular exercise, Operation Arctic
1:27:50
Endurance, is anything but routine.
1:27:52
There have been many similar drills in recent
1:27:55
years.
1:27:55
The latest in September was called Arctic Light.
1:27:58
It involved more than 550 troops, including military
1:28:01
observers from the United States.
1:28:03
Observing from afar is the covetous eye of
1:28:06
the man in the White House, who continues
1:28:08
to say that the U.S. needs Greenland.
1:28:10
The covetous eye.
1:28:12
You know, this also may be purely...
1:28:15
I mean, it's obvious that the Greenland-Iceland
1:28:22
-UK gap, the G.I.U. gap, we
1:28:25
have to be there.
1:28:27
These are all the shipping routes.
1:28:28
There's a lot of shipping going on.
1:28:30
And for them to say, oh, never seen
1:28:31
any...
1:28:31
Of course, there's all kinds of Chinese shipping
1:28:33
going on all the time.
1:28:34
Chinese, Russian, etc.
1:28:36
It's like the Straits of Hormuz, you know.
1:28:39
I think they were talking about Chinese flag
1:28:42
doing most of the Chinese stuff.
1:28:43
Oh, well, flag, sure.
1:28:44
Okay.
1:28:45
But Rutte looks like a deer in the
1:28:46
headlights.
1:28:47
Come on in, Mark.
1:28:48
What do you got to say?
1:28:49
All allies agree on the importance of the
1:28:52
Arctic and Arctic security.
1:28:53
Because we know that with sea lanes opening
1:28:58
up, there is a risk that the Russians
1:29:00
and the Chinese will be more active.
1:29:02
And as you know, there are eight Arctic
1:29:04
countries.
1:29:05
Seven are within NATO.
1:29:07
We have to work together to make sure
1:29:08
that the Arctic stays safe.
1:29:10
And currently, we are discussing the next step
1:29:12
to that.
1:29:13
How to make sure that we give practical
1:29:15
follow-up on those discussions to make sure
1:29:17
that...
1:29:17
Practical.
1:29:18
As an alliance, we do everything collectively and
1:29:21
through our individual allies to make sure that
1:29:24
the Arctic stays safe.
1:29:26
As we all agree, that has to be
1:29:28
a priority.
1:29:29
Sounds to me like what's happening here is
1:29:31
NATO troops are being...
1:29:33
Of course, it's all our gear.
1:29:35
NATO forces are being focused on Greenland.
1:29:38
And we can just roll our ships in.
1:29:41
We say, we're going to provide you guys
1:29:42
cover over here.
1:29:44
I don't think we actually need Greenland to
1:29:46
just patrol the waters there.
1:29:50
And there may be a North Sea Nexus
1:29:52
angle to this.
1:29:53
You know, we've been watching all these, you
1:29:55
know, Victoria, and then we watch all these
1:29:58
British Royal Monarch series.
1:30:02
And so we started the crown.
1:30:03
And I was reminded, of course, they all
1:30:06
speak German.
1:30:07
I was reminded that Queen Elizabeth II, her
1:30:11
husband, Prince Philip, was from Denmark.
1:30:15
You know, these bloodlines, it's all connected.
1:30:18
And so who knows what kind of real
1:30:21
attack this is on Denmark.
1:30:22
We can listen to a report here where
1:30:25
the foreign minister of Denmark and the foreign
1:30:28
minister of Greenland talked after their meeting with
1:30:32
Rubio.
1:30:34
And I think Witkoff was there as well.
1:30:36
But first, we have to make sure we
1:30:38
know the German troops are also in Greenland.
1:30:40
Denmark's and Greenland's foreign ministers held inconclusive talks
1:30:44
in Washington with U.S. Vice President J
1:30:46
.D. Vance and Secretary of State Marco Rubio.
1:30:48
Well, you know, if they send in J
1:30:50
.D., it's not meant to do a deal.
1:30:52
J.D. is just going to dance around
1:30:54
for you.
1:30:55
The Danish foreign minister, Lars Løkke Rasmussen, said
1:30:58
the two sides had agreed to create a
1:31:01
working group to discuss ways to address American
1:31:03
security concerns while also respecting Denmark's red lines.
1:31:07
We had what I will describe as a
1:31:09
frank but also constructive discussion.
1:31:11
The discussions focused on how to ensure the
1:31:14
long-term security in Greenland.
1:31:16
And here, our perspectives continue to differ, I
1:31:19
must say.
1:31:20
The president has made his view clear and
1:31:23
we have a different position.
1:31:26
And we therefore still have a fundamental disagreement.
1:31:29
But we also agreed to disagree.
1:31:31
And therefore, we will, however, continue to talk.
1:31:33
Well, Greenland's foreign minister, Vivian Motsveld, doubled down
1:31:36
and said her government simply cannot accept a
1:31:39
U.S. takeover.
1:31:40
I think it's very important to say it
1:31:44
again that how important it is from our
1:31:47
side to strengthen our cooperation with the United
1:31:49
States.
1:31:50
But that doesn't mean that we want to
1:31:53
be owned by the United States.
1:31:56
But as allies, how we can strengthen our
1:31:59
cooperation, it's all our interest.
1:32:02
Well, I think we just send our ships
1:32:05
there and just start doing it.
1:32:07
I think your earlier idea of a long
1:32:11
lease.
1:32:13
Yeah, Trump says he doesn't want that.
1:32:15
He doesn't want the long lease.
1:32:17
That's what he says.
1:32:19
Yeah, well, exactly, exactly.
1:32:23
So I only have one clip on this
1:32:25
and it's from NTD, which would have the
1:32:28
anti-Chinese perspective.
1:32:30
Meanwhile, President Trump calling anything less than Greenland
1:32:33
in the hands of the U.S. unacceptable,
1:32:35
citing national security.
1:32:37
And the problem is, there's not a thing
1:32:38
that Denmark can do about it if Russia
1:32:40
or China wants to occupy Greenland.
1:32:42
But there's everything we can do.
1:32:44
You know, I can't rely on Denmark being
1:32:46
able to fend themselves to put an extra
1:32:48
dog sled there.
1:32:50
Last month, they added a second dog sled.
1:32:54
That's not going to do the trick.
1:32:55
This comes as Vice President J.D. Vance
1:32:57
and Secretary of State Marco Rubio meet with
1:32:59
the foreign ministers of Denmark and Greenland.
1:33:02
And we therefore still have a fundamental disagreement.
1:33:04
But we also agree to disagree.
1:33:07
And therefore, we will, however, continue to talk.
1:33:10
It is not a true narrative that we
1:33:13
have, you know, Chinese warships all around the
1:33:15
place.
1:33:16
According to our intelligence, we haven't had a
1:33:19
Chinese warship in Greenland for a decade or
1:33:25
so.
1:33:26
While top Danish officials say there are no
1:33:28
Chinese ships near Greenland, major Chinese Communist Party
1:33:31
media outlets echo these denials, alleging the U
1:33:34
.S. is acting out of self-interest rather
1:33:35
than national security.
1:33:37
President Trump draws attention to a Danish intelligence
1:33:39
report released last month that starkly warns about
1:33:42
China's military goals in the Arctic.
1:33:44
If you take a look outside of Greenland
1:33:46
right now, there are Russian destroyers, there are
1:33:49
Chinese destroyers and bigger.
1:33:55
To me, it just seems like a gambit.
1:33:59
There's something up.
1:34:01
But it may not actually have to do
1:34:03
with owning Greenland.
1:34:04
Maybe we just need a pretext for going
1:34:07
up there.
1:34:08
But we already have bases.
1:34:10
It's not a huge base.
1:34:12
It's a base.
1:34:13
Yeah, but how much do you need?
1:34:15
Well, you need the ships.
1:34:16
I think maybe the gambit is just to
1:34:18
show you get these guys to put all
1:34:19
these troops in Greenland to freeze their asses
1:34:22
off.
1:34:23
That cannot be a pleasant assignment.
1:34:28
And there's also the thought, which I don't
1:34:30
have in any of the clips, but it's
1:34:31
just been floating around about them offering $100
1:34:34
,000 per Greenlander to vote.
1:34:38
Seems low.
1:34:39
Seems like a low.
1:34:40
Well, if you imagine you live in Greenland,
1:34:43
it's probably not low.
1:34:45
What are you going to spend it on?
1:34:48
Well, that's the point.
1:34:49
So it's a lot of money.
1:34:50
You're going to be rich.
1:34:53
Yeah, which immediately gives it makes inflation, even
1:34:57
57,000 people.
1:34:58
Inflation happens.
1:34:59
You give everybody 100 grand.
1:35:02
You want a dog sled ride?
1:35:04
100 bucks.
1:35:07
Should be 100 bucks.
1:35:10
Never ridden a dog sled?
1:35:12
No.
1:35:13
Don't plan on it either.
1:35:15
They go like I have.
1:35:17
I've ridden a dog sled and the dogs
1:35:21
go a lot faster than you think.
1:35:24
I do have two clips from Anderson Pooper
1:35:27
with Nick Robertson.
1:35:28
I think Nick, isn't he an MI6 kind
1:35:32
of spy dude?
1:35:34
Remember him?
1:35:35
I don't know that guy.
1:35:36
Yeah, I think you do.
1:35:37
He used to do the satellites in Iraq
1:35:39
and then all of a sudden he was
1:35:40
on camera.
1:35:41
I think that was Nick Robertson.
1:35:44
Well, this is a report from the Nexus,
1:35:48
I think.
1:35:49
Let's see if Nick Robertson joins us tonight
1:35:50
from Greenland.
1:35:51
Is there a sense of what happens next
1:35:54
there?
1:35:54
Because again, the White House doesn't seem interested
1:35:56
in compromising.
1:35:57
He's doing a remote from Greenland.
1:35:58
Why?
1:35:59
He's protecting the interests of the empire, obviously.
1:36:03
I think people here are still perplexed.
1:36:06
They still don't quite...
1:36:07
Remember right now?
1:36:07
This guy was always in Iraq and he
1:36:09
used to just...
1:36:10
Oh yeah, this guy's a spook.
1:36:12
Yes, he's a spook.
1:36:14
I think people here are still perplexed.
1:36:17
They still don't quite understand what the diplomacy
1:36:19
means.
1:36:20
I was just talking to a couple of
1:36:21
high school graduates here and they wanted to
1:36:26
know what had happened in the meeting in
1:36:28
DC and what it really meant.
1:36:30
And they are both and their parents, they
1:36:32
tell us, are still really worried about whether
1:36:35
or not the United States might come here
1:36:36
in a military form to annex the country.
1:36:40
Right now, I can just tell you, Anderson,
1:36:42
that we've just learned through a flight tracking
1:36:44
site, something that we were hearing about earlier
1:36:46
today, a Danish C-130 military transport Hercules
1:36:51
aircraft has landed at Nook Airport.
1:36:54
The Danish had said that they were going
1:36:56
to land, they were going to bring in
1:36:58
more military into Greenland.
1:37:01
It would be troops, it would be aircraft,
1:37:03
it would be Navy.
1:37:04
We've heard that the Swedish, the Norwegians, the
1:37:07
Germans, the French are all coming here to
1:37:09
sort of step up a NATO military security
1:37:13
presence, not per se to defend against the
1:37:15
United States, but it will begin to establish
1:37:18
an image for President Trump of what NATO
1:37:21
can do to project the level of security
1:37:24
that he is saying that he requires.
1:37:27
But I think in no uncertain terms, the
1:37:29
reason that people like these young girls we're
1:37:33
speaking to before are concerned is because that
1:37:37
meeting in Washington has left everyone with the
1:37:41
understanding that both sides are still poles apart,
1:37:44
high level discussions to come, but it really
1:37:47
buys a little time for Denmark to prepare
1:37:50
time to hope that the White House reconsiders.
1:37:54
But the reality is the can's been kicked
1:37:57
down the road and it is as big
1:37:59
a can as it was before Andersen.
1:38:02
I think technically NATO...
1:38:04
You said nothing.
1:38:05
No, of course not.
1:38:06
Well, he has a little more here, but
1:38:08
I think technically NATO forces can take military
1:38:12
control of another NATO country.
1:38:20
You know, there's one thing that the YouTubers
1:38:23
have, there's a bunch of different interviewers that
1:38:27
are out there floating around Greenland.
1:38:29
And it seems to me that the people
1:38:31
that live there would rather have the United
1:38:34
States running it than Denmark.
1:38:37
They literally say, yeah, yeah, they're all Asians.
1:38:40
But that's not the man on the street
1:38:42
you see on France 24, the BBC or
1:38:45
anything here.
1:38:46
You see them all saying, no, no, no,
1:38:48
no.
1:38:49
They're all saying, at least on these men
1:38:53
on the street reports from the YouTubers, that
1:38:55
there are really more men on the street.
1:38:59
And they're young Eskimo looking people generally.
1:39:03
They say, yeah, we'd rather have...
1:39:05
And they all speak...
1:39:06
Or they don't all, but a lot of
1:39:07
them speak English and pretty good English.
1:39:10
They say, we'd rather...
1:39:11
We don't like the Danes.
1:39:12
We just don't like them.
1:39:13
But why would you?
1:39:16
They got smelly cheese, brown cheese.
1:39:20
Brown cheese.
1:39:21
There it is.
1:39:21
Here's the follow-up.
1:39:23
And this, of course, is about NATO.
1:39:25
Congressman, where do you see this going?
1:39:26
I mean, given the fact the president isn't
1:39:28
budging, neither are officials from Denmark and Greenland.
1:39:31
Wait, now he's with Jake Auchincloss?
1:39:35
Who is that guy?
1:39:36
Anderson, good evening.
1:39:38
Before looking forward, let's wind the clock back
1:39:40
to 2019.
1:39:42
The Danish intelligence services uncovered a Russian false
1:39:47
flag operation in Greenland that was attempting to
1:39:50
sow discord between Greenland, the United States, and
1:39:52
Denmark by claiming that the United States was
1:39:54
trying to secure Greenland, its independence and its
1:39:59
annexation.
1:40:00
That failed.
1:40:01
It turns out that the Kremlin need not
1:40:04
have worried because the U.S. president is
1:40:06
now doing its bidding for it.
1:40:08
The U.S. president is doing exactly what...
1:40:11
Oh, hold on.
1:40:12
Stop.
1:40:13
The U.S. president is doing the bidding
1:40:15
of Russia.
1:40:16
Gee, I never heard that before.
1:40:18
There it is.
1:40:19
That's exactly what it is.
1:40:21
Let's listen to that bid again.
1:40:22
Before looking forward...
1:40:23
He's a Democrat representative, former military guy.
1:40:28
Let's wind the clock back to 2019.
1:40:31
The Danish intelligence services uncovered a Russian false
1:40:36
flag operation in Greenland that was attempting to
1:40:38
sow discord between Greenland, the United States, and
1:40:40
Denmark by claiming that the United States was
1:40:43
trying to secure Greenland.
1:40:46
I don't remember that.
1:40:48
Do you remember said false flag?
1:40:50
We are the false flag show.
1:40:52
I don't remember some...
1:40:53
It's bullcrap, that's why.
1:40:55
Its independence and its annexation.
1:40:57
That failed.
1:40:58
It turns out that the Kremlin need not
1:41:01
have worried because the U.S. president is
1:41:03
now doing its bidding for it.
1:41:04
The U.S. president is doing exactly what
1:41:08
Russian intelligence services hope to accomplish in 2019,
1:41:11
which is two things.
1:41:11
Wait, stop, stop, stop, stop.
1:41:13
So let's take one stop here and listen
1:41:16
to the...
1:41:16
What is the logic of this?
1:41:19
The logic is that the United States is...
1:41:22
They created a false flag to make it
1:41:23
look like the United States are bad.
1:41:25
No, no, no, no, no, no, the Russians.
1:41:27
The president's doing the bidding of Russia by
1:41:28
taking over Greenland because we want to stop
1:41:30
the Russians.
1:41:31
No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
1:41:32
He said that the Russians created a false
1:41:35
flag.
1:41:35
Right.
1:41:36
Yeah.
1:41:36
So...
1:41:37
Yeah, I got that.
1:41:37
But then he says now, he says the
1:41:39
president...
1:41:39
They don't have to do the false flag
1:41:41
because the president is doing the bidding of
1:41:43
Russia by trying to take over Greenland.
1:41:46
How does that benefit Russia?
1:41:50
Well, I actually thought differently when I heard
1:41:52
this, and I thought, oh, this is ARC.
1:41:55
America, Russia, China.
1:41:56
Yeah, exactly.
1:41:59
We want to work with them.
1:42:01
We are doing their bidding because we have
1:42:03
a plan.
1:42:05
Somebody has a plan.
1:42:06
I hope somebody has a plan.
1:42:07
Whether they have a plan or not, his
1:42:09
logic is no good.
1:42:11
His logic is no good.
1:42:12
His logic is ridiculous, in fact.
1:42:15
Well, but it's talking points.
1:42:17
Worried because the U.S. president is now
1:42:18
doing its bidding for it.
1:42:20
The U.S. president is doing exactly what
1:42:23
Russian intelligence services hope to accomplish in 2019,
1:42:26
which is two things.
1:42:27
First, fracturing NATO at a time when NATO
1:42:29
needs to be strong on its eastern flank.
1:42:32
It is being weakened on its western flank.
1:42:33
And number two, driving the Greenlandic people closer,
1:42:38
actually, to Chinese and Russian influence for their
1:42:40
own polar security.
1:42:42
Why do you think...
1:42:47
Yes?
1:42:49
So the Greenlanders, according to this joke, are
1:42:54
thinking, well, gee, we don't like the Danes.
1:42:56
We don't like the Americans.
1:42:57
Let's turn to Russia and China, who they
1:43:01
have no contact with whatsoever.
1:43:03
They're not even in the picture.
1:43:05
It's not even a part of the debate.
1:43:08
But that's what they're...
1:43:09
Come on, dude.
1:43:10
Get this guy off the air.
1:43:11
What network was this?
1:43:13
This is CNN with Anderson Cooper.
1:43:17
Well, let's continue because he comes to a
1:43:19
logical conclusion.
1:43:22
Why do you think that would weaken NATO?
1:43:28
Why would the U.S. occupying...
1:43:32
I mean, I don't even know how to
1:43:34
phrase how the U.S. could do this.
1:43:36
But a greater U.S. presence or control
1:43:40
over Greenland, how would that increasingly fracture NATO?
1:43:45
Well, I mean, Anderson, you may not have
1:43:47
the right verbiage, but Article 5 does, which
1:43:50
is an attack on a NATO member.
1:43:53
The United States forcefully occupying Greenland, which is
1:43:56
a part of the Kingdom of Denmark, Denmark
1:43:58
being a founding member of NATO, would be
1:44:01
an attack on NATO by a member of
1:44:04
NATO.
1:44:04
Yeah.
1:44:05
There is no treaty provision that can withstand
1:44:09
that.
1:44:10
NATO would fracture, and Xi Jinping and Vladimir
1:44:13
Putin would win.
1:44:16
Win what?
1:44:18
I don't know.
1:44:20
I think Trump is just trolling NATO.
1:44:24
He really wants the ships there, and that
1:44:27
makes a lot of sense.
1:44:28
We've got to have control of that because
1:44:30
that's the Donraux doctrine.
1:44:34
Yeah, it is in our hemisphere.
1:44:35
Yes.
1:44:36
And it's pretty important with all this, you
1:44:38
know, melting ice and everything.
1:44:40
Oh, yes.
1:44:41
You know, this is the kind of another
1:44:43
ill logic is that they, you know, they
1:44:46
have to say the ice is going to
1:44:49
melt completely, which is going to put that
1:44:50
night.
1:44:51
If it does, it's going to, or if
1:44:53
it melts enough, there's going to be a
1:44:56
shipping lane there that's going to be much
1:44:58
more efficient than going over the Pacific, for
1:45:00
example.
1:45:01
You just, you know, sneak across the top,
1:45:04
shorten the routes.
1:45:06
So that's why airlines fly over the polar
1:45:08
route, largely.
1:45:10
Yeah.
1:45:10
Because it's faster.
1:45:12
And so it would be a big deal.
1:45:15
It'd save everybody money.
1:45:17
But these guys are seeing it differently.
1:45:20
I don't know.
1:45:21
It has yet to be revealed.
1:45:24
And there's probably oil up there.
1:45:27
I think that's much less important.
1:45:30
I really don't.
1:45:31
That's, you know, I've heard oil, I've heard
1:45:33
minerals, gold, diamonds.
1:45:35
Gold.
1:45:35
No, I think it's just about the shipping
1:45:38
routes.
1:45:38
That's it.
1:45:39
All those ghost ships are going through there,
1:45:42
which would be about oil, ultimately.
1:45:46
All right.
1:45:47
So the next attack on, I'll just say
1:45:50
the nexus, is Jerome Powell.
1:45:53
And this is really, I think this is
1:45:55
fun to watch.
1:45:56
Here's a brief statement.
1:45:58
The president's general feeling about Jerome Powell, the
1:46:03
head of the Federal Reserve.
1:46:06
As you know, the inflation numbers just came
1:46:09
out.
1:46:10
And we have very low inflation.
1:46:12
So that would give, too late, Powell, the
1:46:14
chance to give us a nice, beautiful, big
1:46:17
rate cut, which would be great for the
1:46:20
country.
1:46:20
But rates are falling also.
1:46:22
And growth is going up.
1:46:24
We have tremendous growth numbers.
1:46:26
So growth is going up.
1:46:27
And I can only say that the country's
1:46:29
doing well.
1:46:30
He's billions of dollars over budget.
1:46:33
So either he's incompetent or he's crooked.
1:46:36
I don't know what he is, but he
1:46:37
certainly doesn't do a very good job.
1:46:40
Now, did you see the, was it like
1:46:43
the hostage video that Powell did?
1:46:46
Yeah, I thought it was kind of dull.
1:46:48
I didn't think much of it.
1:46:50
What was the point?
1:46:52
Well, the point is, is he's making it
1:46:54
sound like this is political.
1:46:55
But it was actually, I think it was
1:46:56
a Democrat who referred Powell's testimony before the
1:47:01
Senate Banking Committee to the Department of Justice
1:47:04
saying that he perjured himself during that testimony.
1:47:08
It has nothing to do with the rates,
1:47:10
and Trump just keeps saying that.
1:47:12
But it seems like it's about something else.
1:47:16
It's about spending too much money.
1:47:19
No, no, no.
1:47:20
We don't know because the grand jury, you
1:47:26
know, it's not public.
1:47:27
I don't know how he could perjure himself.
1:47:29
Most of the time he's asked for opinions.
1:47:32
Well, you know, I don't think the testimony
1:47:35
was public either, was it?
1:47:38
I don't think so.
1:47:39
I looked for it.
1:47:40
I couldn't find it.
1:47:41
But what this has done is it has
1:47:45
put the Federal Reserve, and I'm always amazed
1:47:49
how many people don't know that the Federal
1:47:51
Reserve is not a government organization.
1:47:54
It's a so-called independent institution created in
1:47:59
1913 by the banking cartel.
1:48:02
Yeah, and what was the reason for it
1:48:04
being created?
1:48:05
What was the reason for it being created?
1:48:07
I was sick and tired of the business
1:48:10
cycle getting out of control.
1:48:13
Every 10 years, you'd have a depression.
1:48:15
Half the banks would go out of business,
1:48:16
and people would lose all their money.
1:48:18
This kept going on and on and on,
1:48:20
and they had to do something about it.
1:48:22
So they decided that, you know, since we
1:48:24
can't have a central bank, quote-unquote, we
1:48:26
had to have some sort of a faux
1:48:27
central bank.
1:48:28
And they decided that if they got control,
1:48:30
all of those bullshit hasn't worked.
1:48:32
No.
1:48:33
But they decided that, well, maybe this would
1:48:35
be one way of stopping that business cycle
1:48:37
from breaking us every, you know, it was
1:48:41
the crash of 1907 that really triggered it.
1:48:44
That was the end of the end.
1:48:45
That was worse than anything we've seen for
1:48:47
a short term.
1:48:48
It just broke everybody's back.
1:48:50
So you're telling me that the Federal Reserve,
1:48:53
of which we don't even know who all
1:48:54
the members are.
1:48:55
Yes, we do.
1:48:56
No, we don't.
1:48:58
We don't know all the members.
1:48:59
Yes, we do.
1:48:59
We know who all the members are.
1:49:01
The members are all public.
1:49:02
No, we know who the Board of Governors
1:49:04
is.
1:49:05
We know who all the members are.
1:49:07
Who are they?
1:49:09
Well, I don't have the names off the
1:49:11
top of my head, but it's not secret
1:49:13
like you seem to believe.
1:49:14
I'm pretty sure that it is.
1:49:16
No, no, no.
1:49:17
Well, I'm pretty sure that it is.
1:49:20
No, we know who all the members are.
1:49:23
There's not a secret guy in the background
1:49:25
that's doing anything.
1:49:26
This is all, you know, it's public.
1:49:29
The members are all known.
1:49:31
In fact, I did a search on this.
1:49:38
Are all the members of the Federal Reserve
1:49:40
known?
1:49:41
Yes.
1:49:43
Well, who are they then?
1:49:44
The identities of the Federal Reserve's key decision
1:49:46
-makers are public, not secret.
1:49:48
Not the decision-makers.
1:49:52
All the member banks.
1:49:53
The Board of Governors or the decision-makers
1:49:55
are all known.
1:49:56
There's no secret people back there.
1:49:57
I don't know where you got that.
1:49:58
Are all the member banks known?
1:50:02
Yeah.
1:50:03
Yeah?
1:50:04
That's what I dispute.
1:50:05
What, do you think there's a secret bank?
1:50:07
Well, I think the Federal Reserve in general
1:50:10
is a bad idea.
1:50:12
Well, that's different than thinking it's secret.
1:50:15
Well, I'll leave that.
1:50:16
You don't have any proof.
1:50:17
I don't have any proof.
1:50:18
No, there's plenty.
1:50:19
You can Google it.
1:50:21
There's no proof that there's one secret person
1:50:23
or bank.
1:50:24
There's no secret bank in the Federal Reserve.
1:50:27
Okay.
1:50:27
Not all banks in the United States are
1:50:29
member banks, but not all bank members are
1:50:33
known.
1:50:33
But that's Google.
1:50:35
Not all bank members are known?
1:50:38
No.
1:50:39
Where'd you get that?
1:50:39
From Google.
1:50:40
So, take that for what it is.
1:50:42
Really?
1:50:43
Yeah.
1:50:44
Well, but let's not argue over that.
1:50:46
Let's argue over...
1:50:47
Well, it's something to argue about if you
1:50:48
think it's a secret society or something running
1:50:50
the Federal Reserve.
1:50:51
Well, the way I understand the history is
1:50:54
the Federal Reserve originally were the same banks,
1:50:58
same people, who started the American Bank, the
1:51:05
Second Bank of America, and the First Bank
1:51:09
of America.
1:51:10
And Andrew Jackson dissolved that because he was...
1:51:13
Yeah, you talked about this on Jimmy's show.
1:51:15
You're repurposing information.
1:51:19
Just calling you, just saying.
1:51:20
Yeah, but I actually got some clips.
1:51:24
So, I'm not...
1:51:26
You know what, John?
1:51:27
It's fine.
1:51:28
You know everything.
1:51:29
No, I'm just saying you're thinking there's some
1:51:31
secret organization running the Federal Reserve, and there's
1:51:33
not.
1:51:34
It's okay.
1:51:35
You know, Rand Paul, if you remember, during
1:51:38
the era of our show, Rand Paul made
1:51:40
a big fuss about end the Fed, which
1:51:42
is, you know, okay, you can try doing
1:51:43
that.
1:51:44
And then he got ahead of the banking
1:51:45
committee.
1:51:46
He couldn't do Jack because he was going
1:51:48
to, oh, he's going to audit the Fed.
1:51:51
Nothing came up because there was nothing onerous
1:51:55
going on.
1:51:56
No, Rand Paul was running on his dad's
1:52:00
mission to end the Fed.
1:52:02
I mean, Ron Paul...
1:52:04
What I want to get to here, without
1:52:06
going into some endless conversation about who owns,
1:52:12
because I think that, and I will, on
1:52:14
Sunday's show, I will find out some information.
1:52:18
I will tell you that not everything about
1:52:19
the Federal Reserve network is known.
1:52:22
I believe that to be true.
1:52:24
Yeah, you do believe that to be true.
1:52:26
I do, and you believe it not to
1:52:27
be true, but that's beyond the point.
1:52:29
They certainly didn't stop the boom and bust
1:52:31
cycle that the businesses had gotten us into.
1:52:33
I said that right at the beginning of
1:52:35
my presentation right here.
1:52:36
Right, right.
1:52:37
Yeah, no, but we don't know that it
1:52:39
could have gotten worse.
1:52:40
I mean, after 1907...
1:52:42
Has it gotten any better?
1:52:42
They had to do something.
1:52:43
Has it gotten any better?
1:52:48
Well, the problem they had was...
1:52:50
Has it gotten better with the money creation
1:52:51
they do?
1:52:51
No, it has not gotten better.
1:52:52
It's because they make too many assumptions.
1:52:54
They think they can...
1:52:56
They're inept.
1:53:01
I'll give you that.
1:53:02
And should commercial banks be in charge of
1:53:08
our monetary policy, by your reasoning?
1:53:17
Well, who should be in charge of monetary
1:53:19
policy?
1:53:20
Before the Fed, every bank had their own
1:53:22
notes.
1:53:23
That's right, and I believe that what is
1:53:26
happening here is that Scott Besant will follow
1:53:31
in the...
1:53:32
Gosh, I forget who it was.
1:53:33
They had like three different secretaries of the
1:53:37
Treasury under Andrew Jackson.
1:53:39
And the third one, who ultimately became a
1:53:42
Supreme Court judge, he drained the Federal Reserve
1:53:47
of all of the...
1:53:49
But there was no Federal Reserve.
1:53:50
I mean, the Second Bank of America drained
1:53:54
their accounts and then gave it to what
1:53:57
was called Andrew Jackson's pet banks, which dissolved,
1:54:02
effectively, the Second Bank of America.
1:54:04
Now, he screwed it up because he eventually
1:54:06
created enormous hyperinflation.
1:54:10
But I think that you're going to see
1:54:12
a move by Besant in particular, who is
1:54:15
going to redistribute.
1:54:19
He's already going to do the short-term
1:54:21
T-bills, and I think that's...
1:54:23
This is the point I'm getting to.
1:54:25
I think that's where the stablecoin gambit comes
1:54:27
into play.
1:54:29
I'm just saying that this...
1:54:31
I think there is a scheme afoot, and
1:54:33
every single central banker...
1:54:35
I've never seen this before.
1:54:36
Trump has always, for as long as he's
1:54:41
been in office, has complained about the Federal
1:54:43
Reserve.
1:54:44
But it's the first time that we see
1:54:46
all the central bank guys coming out all
1:54:48
around the world and saying, Oh, no, no,
1:54:51
this is no good.
1:54:52
We have to have independent banks.
1:54:53
I think they're worried.
1:54:54
I think they're scared.
1:54:55
Something is going on.
1:54:57
Of course they're worried.
1:55:00
But they've never all come out en masse
1:55:02
and signed letters.
1:55:03
We have some maniac coming out there and
1:55:07
really pretty much threatening the entire monetary system
1:55:09
of the world with stablecoin, and I can
1:55:13
see that being a huge problem.
1:55:15
I can see it as being a great...
1:55:16
I mean, I'd be worried too if I
1:55:17
was a banker.
1:55:18
I can see it as being a great
1:55:19
idea.
1:55:20
Well, they don't see it that way, and
1:55:24
so they're worried.
1:55:25
So I'm not stunned by this.
1:55:29
My point is they've never...
1:55:31
It's not being discussed.
1:55:33
All that's being discussed is he's going after
1:55:35
Powell for political reasons.
1:55:37
And I think that what I'm trying to
1:55:38
say, which you're just...
1:55:40
For some reason, you just keep fighting me
1:55:42
on it.
1:55:43
No, I'm not fighting you on it at
1:55:44
all.
1:55:45
I just think some of the things you're
1:55:46
saying are bullcrap, like that there's secret banks.
1:55:49
That's one.
1:55:51
Are you going to argue any of the
1:55:53
other things?
1:55:53
Or the stablecoin gambit.
1:55:55
I understand where it could replace SWIFT, but
1:55:58
whether or not it's going to replace the
1:56:00
banking system is another issue.
1:56:02
I don't think so.
1:56:03
What is the banking system?
1:56:05
What do these central banks do?
1:56:08
What is their one...
1:56:09
Besides making money, printing money, they do the
1:56:15
settlement.
1:56:15
If you can do that through a blockchain,
1:56:19
if you can get more flowing through your
1:56:22
blockchain than what they do, I think you
1:56:25
can effectively neutralize them.
1:56:28
And let me tell you, Shopify is already
1:56:30
adding stablecoin to their checkout options.
1:56:33
Our own donation page has a stablecoin checkout
1:56:36
page.
1:56:38
Why?
1:56:39
I didn't ask for it.
1:56:40
I don't even know how to get a
1:56:41
hold of a stablecoin.
1:56:42
No, not yet, but it's being set up.
1:56:45
Why else is this happening?
1:56:49
Why would Shopify, who arguably are one of
1:56:52
the most successful financial companies in the world,
1:56:55
who are outpacing Visa, why would Shopify add
1:57:00
stablecoin to their checkout?
1:57:02
Shopify is outpacing Visa?
1:57:04
In stock price, yeah.
1:57:06
And in success.
1:57:08
Oh, yeah.
1:57:08
And stablecoin will have no fees associated?
1:57:15
Well, there you just answered your own question.
1:57:20
It's all about the fees.
1:57:22
Yes, and the same thing is that I
1:57:28
think it's all connected.
1:57:29
I'm trying to explore this with you instead
1:57:32
of...
1:57:33
Yeah, well, keep exploring.
1:57:34
I'm going to keep pushing back.
1:57:36
Unless you don't want any pushback and you
1:57:38
just want me to roll over to these
1:57:40
thoughts.
1:57:41
Okay, so you think everything's just going to
1:57:45
continue as normal and nothing will happen?
1:57:50
Pretty much.
1:57:51
Okay.
1:57:51
I believe that the 10% cap on
1:57:54
credit card interest rates is related to this.
1:57:59
I think it's not just to make it
1:58:01
more affordable.
1:58:01
I think he's trying to put the credit
1:58:03
card companies on notice, if not severely hurt
1:58:06
their business.
1:58:11
Well, let's hope so.
1:58:15
All right, so we'll leave stablecoin for what
1:58:17
it is.
1:58:18
And we'll leave the central bankers for what
1:58:19
it is.
1:58:20
But I'm going to put it in the
1:58:21
red book that this is an attack on
1:58:24
the entire financial system.
1:58:26
And yes, I think they're serious about doing
1:58:28
it.
1:58:28
I really do.
1:58:30
And I think it's about time.
1:58:33
Every year there's a bill to end the
1:58:38
Federal Reserve.
1:58:40
Yeah, every year.
1:58:41
It was Massey, funny enough.
1:58:45
And he has 10 co-sponsors.
1:58:48
Massey.
1:58:48
It was Massey.
1:58:50
That tells you something right there.
1:58:53
That's why I found it interesting.
1:58:56
So the credit card cap came up on
1:58:58
CNBC.
1:59:00
And here's the Sorkin kid trying to explain
1:59:04
the business of credit cards, which was a
1:59:07
little more intricate than I thought.
1:59:08
I was on the phone with a bunch
1:59:10
of bankers over the weekend who were basically
1:59:13
not just mad.
1:59:15
Just flipping.
1:59:15
Flipping out of their minds, frankly.
1:59:17
And they were flipping out of their minds,
1:59:19
I believe, and the argument they were making
1:59:21
is if you don't want credit in America,
1:59:22
if you want us to shut down millions
1:59:25
of people's credit cards because that's what we
1:59:27
will have to do to make the economics
1:59:28
of these businesses work, that would be the
1:59:31
outcome.
1:59:31
I don't know if that's true.
1:59:33
I don't know if that's a threat.
1:59:36
I can't tell you about the actual math.
1:59:39
I do think that what's happened to the
1:59:41
business, from what I've been told, is because
1:59:44
there are so many services that are now
1:59:45
being layered on top of credit cards, that
1:59:48
the only way for them to obviously make
1:59:50
money, really, is to actually charge what might
1:59:53
be described as usury rates or not.
1:59:55
What kind of services?
1:59:57
I mean, there's all of them.
1:59:58
Some cards have loyalty points.
2:00:00
Some cards don't.
2:00:01
Some cards have insurance on the product.
2:00:03
Some cards don't.
2:00:04
But there's all sorts of things now that
2:00:06
are embedded in your credit card that go
2:00:08
far beyond strictly just buying and selling products,
2:00:15
whether it's insurance on when you go to
2:00:18
rent a car or this or that.
2:00:20
Now, some of these cards, as I said,
2:00:22
their fees, American Express charges you fees.
2:00:24
There's other cards that give you the card
2:00:26
for free.
2:00:26
But those cards that are giving you for
2:00:28
free, the way they're making up their money
2:00:31
is typically on the other end, meaning they
2:00:33
want you to charge everything on it.
2:00:35
They want you not just to charge everything
2:00:36
on it because they're getting the 3%
2:00:38
for each sale.
2:00:40
They really want you to actually not pay
2:00:43
so that you pay the interest rate.
2:00:45
That's the business.
2:00:48
So Sorkin, they're defending the business, saying that,
2:00:52
well, because they give you insurance and all
2:00:55
this other stuff.
2:00:56
I don't know.
2:00:56
That seems like maybe a crap.
2:00:58
Exactly.
2:00:59
And then Kernan says, well, he basically said,
2:01:02
well, what about the free market?
2:01:03
How does that not work?
2:01:05
Once again, in a world where you don't
2:01:11
like to use the word cap ever on
2:01:13
something that you're doing because you immediately think
2:01:15
there's going to be less of it when
2:01:18
you cap it.
2:01:19
It's supposed to work where if someone's charging
2:01:21
too high an interest rate, then competitors come
2:01:23
in and go down an eighth at a
2:01:25
time until you get to an equilibrium where
2:01:27
demand equals supply.
2:01:29
So I don't understand.
2:01:30
But once again, is Elizabeth Warren going to
2:01:32
go President Trump again?
2:01:34
Are they on the same side?
2:01:36
Probably.
2:01:38
So two things here.
2:01:39
One, that's a good question.
2:01:41
They must be colluding, I guess, because everyone
2:01:44
has high interest rates.
2:01:45
Do you know of any low interest rate
2:01:46
credit cards?
2:01:47
No, they all brag about it.
2:01:49
They maybe have your low interest rate.
2:01:52
I'm going to correct you on something, by
2:01:53
the way.
2:01:54
No, you're right.
2:01:54
They're all high interest rates.
2:01:59
Visa is over three times bigger than Shopify.
2:02:03
Has their stock price risen the same?
2:02:05
Their net worth.
2:02:06
The stock price is way up there.
2:02:09
Of Shopify.
2:02:09
But the market cap of Visa is $632
2:02:12
billion and Shopify is $200 billion.
2:02:14
I didn't say their market cap.
2:02:17
I said that their stock price.
2:02:19
Stock price is all relative.
2:02:22
Well, okay.
2:02:24
Well, the stock price of Visa is $327.
2:02:27
Yeah, but look at the charts.
2:02:29
I believe Shopify has exploded since they came
2:02:32
on the scene.
2:02:34
Well, it's not that it's a crappy company.
2:02:36
No, but...
2:02:37
But you said they were bigger.
2:02:39
Shopify is $157.
2:02:40
It's not even close.
2:02:41
It's half the stock price.
2:02:42
And I qualified it by saying the stock
2:02:44
price.
2:02:45
Well, Shopify is $157.
2:02:47
It's half the price of Visa stock.
2:02:50
All right.
2:02:51
Because you throw this stuff out out of
2:02:53
the blue and it just goes out into
2:02:56
the ether and people hear, oh, geez, Shopify
2:02:58
is bigger than Visa when it's not even
2:03:00
a snowball's chance in hell it'll ever be
2:03:03
bigger than Visa.
2:03:05
It's a huge company, Visa.
2:03:06
Yes, and if you put the two charts
2:03:09
next to each other, has Shopify increased in
2:03:13
value?
2:03:13
I guess that's what I meant.
2:03:15
Recently, it's fallen off a rock, off a
2:03:17
cliff.
2:03:17
Okay.
2:03:18
Well, then I was wrong.
2:03:20
I believe Shopify is a very successful company.
2:03:23
I'm not saying Visa isn't.
2:03:24
I'm not saying it's not.
2:03:24
You didn't say that.
2:03:25
I know.
2:03:27
I'm conceding to you.
2:03:30
No, well, with provisos.
2:03:33
Actually, Shopify once at one point really hit
2:03:35
some good numbers.
2:03:38
I know because...
2:03:39
It's just kind of interesting it fell so
2:03:40
much.
2:03:40
I know because the reason why I said
2:03:42
that, I didn't say it correctly for sure,
2:03:44
is because the former New York banker, go
2:03:47
ahead, you can discredit him about Goldman Sachs.
2:03:50
Which is skyrocketing.
2:03:51
The former New York banker has been investing
2:03:55
in Shopify for eight years, I think.
2:03:58
He says it is a much better company
2:04:02
and deal than Visa if you want to
2:04:03
make money.
2:04:05
So he was just talking about stock price
2:04:07
increase, I believe.
2:04:08
But we can't believe anybody.
2:04:11
Certainly not him because he was wrong about
2:04:12
Goldman Sachs.
2:04:12
No, we can believe that.
2:04:13
And it is true.
2:04:14
It's a newer company.
2:04:15
They're doing quite well, but they're not bigger
2:04:18
than Visa.
2:04:18
That's all I was...
2:04:19
You were saying that they were.
2:04:21
And I already told you, I said I
2:04:22
was incorrect in saying that.
2:04:24
Yes.
2:04:25
Okay.
2:04:26
We got to keep the show honest.
2:04:30
Okay.
2:04:32
Well, it always is difficult for me when
2:04:35
the first thing you say is, you're recycling
2:04:36
content.
2:04:37
I'm trying not to recycle content.
2:04:39
I'm really trying not to.
2:04:40
But I think it's important.
2:04:42
And when you do that, it's just like,
2:04:44
fuck you, is what you're saying.
2:04:45
No, I'm saying you're recycling.
2:04:47
But not everybody...
2:04:48
If people are your fans, and there's plenty
2:04:50
of them out there, they're going to listen
2:04:52
to all your stuff, and they're going to
2:04:53
keep doing the same thing over and over.
2:04:55
There's original material.
2:05:05
I'm baffled by you.
2:05:07
I'm baffled.
2:05:07
You write the sub stacks that are the
2:05:10
same material.
2:05:11
What do you care what my fans listen
2:05:14
to?
2:05:14
What do you care?
2:05:15
Isn't it about this show?
2:05:16
Isn't it about bringing the best to this
2:05:18
show?
2:05:19
Yes.
2:05:19
Okay.
2:05:20
So what do you care?
2:05:21
If you're taking retreaded material from other shows,
2:05:24
you're giving our show second-tier status.
2:05:28
You've got your first-tier status, which is
2:05:30
you and Jimmy, and then you bring your
2:05:32
same stuff over to our show at a
2:05:34
second rate.
2:05:35
Okay.
2:05:36
It's an insult.
2:05:37
Oh, you feel it's an insult.
2:05:40
Oh, okay.
2:05:41
To the audience.
2:05:42
No.
2:05:42
How many people listen to Noah Djinn, and
2:05:44
how many people listen to We Get to
2:05:46
Do This?
2:05:48
What's the difference in audience size, do you
2:05:50
think?
2:05:50
Just take a wild guess.
2:05:52
It's not an insult to anybody.
2:05:54
Thousand to one.
2:05:55
No one has complained except you.
2:05:59
Well, I'm trying to get you an audience
2:06:01
over there, if you haven't figured this out.
2:06:03
Well, you're doing a great job.
2:06:05
You haven't mentioned the name of the show
2:06:06
once.
2:06:08
Believe me, I would love to mention the
2:06:11
name of the show.
2:06:11
I can't remember the name of the show.
2:06:14
You ready?
2:06:15
We Get to Do This.
2:06:17
We Get to Do This.
2:06:19
You actually, and not only that, you've had
2:06:21
somebody write a song.
2:06:23
Jeff Smith.
2:06:26
Oh, Jeff Smith wrote the song?
2:06:27
Yeah, of course.
2:06:30
That's where I, you know, I'm sorry if
2:06:32
I weakened our show by using Jeff Smith
2:06:35
somewhere else.
2:06:36
He doesn't do anything for us anymore.
2:06:39
We might as well.
2:06:41
Anyway, final clip here.
2:06:43
So, Kernan says, what's happening here?
2:06:47
Is President Trump going to call Elizabeth Warren?
2:06:50
And he actually did.
2:06:52
He called her, which is amazing by itself.
2:06:55
And she was asked about it on CNBC.
2:06:57
And what do you think she answered?
2:07:00
I think she was positive, if I'm not
2:07:02
mistaken.
2:07:03
That's not what I heard.
2:07:04
I had just given a speech about the
2:07:06
future of the Democratic Party.
2:07:08
And the basic point that I made in
2:07:10
the speech is that Donald Trump had promised
2:07:14
for an entire year in the run-up
2:07:16
to the 2024 election that on day one
2:07:19
he would lower costs for American families.
2:07:22
He gets elected.
2:07:23
And the very first interview, he says, on
2:07:25
day one.
2:07:27
Day one.
2:07:28
She didn't answer the question at all, or
2:07:30
even during the full 11-minute interview.
2:07:33
All she said was, there's cheaper credit cards
2:07:35
out there.
2:07:36
She's part of the system.
2:07:38
She doesn't want credit card companies to get
2:07:40
screwed by Trump.
2:07:42
I heard a different clip from her.
2:07:43
I don't have it.
2:07:45
I listened to the whole 11 minutes.
2:07:46
Where she was somewhat complimentary for the fact
2:07:47
that they agreed on this.
2:07:49
And now she turned, somebody gave her a
2:07:51
call.
2:07:52
But who?
2:07:53
Well, listen to the rest of the clip.
2:07:56
For costs for American families.
2:07:57
And that's why he got elected.
2:07:59
And yet, here we are a year in.
2:08:01
And the cost of groceries is up.
2:08:04
The cost of utilities is up.
2:08:06
The cost of housing is up.
2:08:08
The cost of health care is up, up,
2:08:11
up.
2:08:11
And all of those costs are up.
2:08:14
Because of policies that Donald Trump and the
2:08:17
Republicans in Congress have pushed on our economy.
2:08:22
So, the argument I was making in the
2:08:24
speech is it's time for Democrats to jump
2:08:27
in.
2:08:27
To hold Donald Trump and the Republicans accountable
2:08:30
for these higher costs for American families.
2:08:33
And then make a choice as we go
2:08:36
forward.
2:08:37
We can take our economic agenda and sand
2:08:41
it down, narrow it down to make it
2:08:43
more acceptable to billionaire donors.
2:08:46
Or we can actually go full-throated on
2:08:50
behalf of the American people.
2:08:52
And make bold proposals and demonstrate that we
2:08:56
will get in there and fight for it.
2:08:57
Like what?
2:08:58
But this was all about lowering costs for
2:09:01
American families.
2:09:02
Because that's what Democrats are going to do.
2:09:06
And that's what the election of 2026 is
2:09:08
going to be about.
2:09:09
That's all she could do.
2:09:10
That's all she could do is talk about
2:09:12
the 2026 election.
2:09:14
She doesn't care about people.
2:09:16
Doesn't want to help them.
2:09:18
Doesn't want it.
2:09:19
No.
2:09:22
Somebody called her up and said, hey, hey,
2:09:24
hey.
2:09:25
You can't be talking anything good about Trump.
2:09:27
We've got to win this 2026 thing.
2:09:30
This is the whole thing is about 2026.
2:09:34
I'd have clipped it somewhere about 2026, I
2:09:37
thought.
2:09:39
I don't have.
2:09:40
Let's do more Africa news.
2:09:43
I wish I had more Africa news.
2:09:51
Let's do something.
2:09:53
I don't want to do too much on
2:09:54
Minnesota because that's the biggest distraction of the
2:09:57
week.
2:09:58
Miami in the midterms.
2:10:00
This is from Al Jazeera.
2:10:02
And this is, you know, unbeknownst to everybody,
2:10:05
you know, Chuck Schumer has been working behind
2:10:07
the scenes.
2:10:08
They've been Democrats have been winning all these
2:10:10
little local elections.
2:10:12
The Republicans are lazy.
2:10:13
The Republicans are lazy and no, no, no.
2:10:17
The Republicans don't want Trump to win.
2:10:21
I think most of them.
2:10:22
Well, you're talking about the professional Republicans.
2:10:25
I'm talking about the public at large.
2:10:26
Oh, OK.
2:10:28
The professional Republicans don't like Trump.
2:10:30
They don't want to do anything.
2:10:31
James Comer is the worst.
2:10:33
He's never going to indict anybody.
2:10:34
Clinton can give him the finger.
2:10:36
I'm not coming in for the talk.
2:10:38
And you've been subpoenaed.
2:10:40
You know, now you're breaking the law.
2:10:42
Screw you.
2:10:43
Oh, OK, whatever.
2:10:45
I mean, the guy is a horrible person.
2:10:47
And so you have.
2:10:49
Meanwhile, the Democrats are making inroads left and
2:10:51
right.
2:10:51
And now this.
2:10:53
The U.S. midterm elections aren't happening until
2:10:56
November, but the political posturing is already well
2:10:59
underway.
2:11:00
Democrats hope a strong showing will help to
2:11:02
limit the president's power.
2:11:04
They recently received a boost in Donald Trump's
2:11:06
home state of Florida.
2:11:08
From Miami, here's Phil Lavelle.
2:11:10
This is Miami, Florida.
2:11:12
It is colorful, it is cultural, it's competitive.
2:11:14
And politically, is this place seeing the start
2:11:16
of a big shift?
2:11:18
Democrats hope so.
2:11:19
Eileen Higgins is Miami's new mayor, a Democrat
2:11:22
herself.
2:11:22
Which is significant because Miami has not elected
2:11:25
a Democrat to run it for 30 years.
2:11:28
Quick bit of background for you, then.
2:11:29
Florida is as red as it gets, dominated
2:11:32
by the Republicans.
2:11:33
Democrats have been trying to shake it up
2:11:34
for years and turn it blue, or at
2:11:36
least make it purple, a blend of the
2:11:39
two.
2:11:39
This was once the ultimate swing state.
2:11:41
The 2000 presidential election hinged on Florida.
2:11:44
Al Gore just lost out to George W.
2:11:47
Bush after a Supreme Court battle.
2:11:49
But it has moved steadily to the right
2:11:51
ever since.
2:11:51
Looser COVID restrictions drew in older, more conservative
2:11:55
-leaning voters, joining an already huge and broadly
2:11:57
conservative Latino base.
2:11:59
It helped Governor Ron DeSantis with a record
2:12:01
-breaking landslide in the 2022 midterms.
2:12:04
But here's why Democrats are feeling a bit
2:12:07
more hopeful right now.
2:12:08
They've notched up a handful of wins elsewhere
2:12:10
lately, small but symbolically important, for a party
2:12:13
still regrouping after losing the White House in
2:12:16
2024.
2:12:17
How do you capitalize on that?
2:12:18
How do you keep that going?
2:12:19
We keep it going by being on the
2:12:21
ground.
2:12:22
That's what we need to do.
2:12:23
We need to continue voter registration, especially here
2:12:26
in Florida.
2:12:26
We need to have voter registration.
2:12:28
We need to up our numbers.
2:12:29
We need to reach out to our Democrats,
2:12:31
independents, and Republicans, because there are Republicans that
2:12:34
have buyers' remorse.
2:12:35
Think about where we are right now at
2:12:37
this particular moment in time.
2:12:39
See, President Trump is only a year in,
2:12:41
a quarter of the way through his second
2:12:43
term.
2:12:44
The midterm elections take place in November, and
2:12:46
Republicans need to do well there to fulfill
2:12:49
his election agenda.
2:12:50
If Democrats want to slow him down, this
2:12:53
is their chance.
2:12:55
Now, what's my takeaway from that?
2:12:57
Thirty years, there hasn't been a Democrat mayor
2:13:01
of Miami, and now there's one.
2:13:03
These Democrats are doing a lot better than
2:13:06
anybody wants to admit to.
2:13:09
The Republicans are flat-footed.
2:13:11
They're complacent.
2:13:13
I watch all the great shows, and they
2:13:17
spike in the ball left and right as
2:13:20
though they've won the midterms, that they think
2:13:23
they're going to win the midterms.
2:13:24
They don't put any fear of God into
2:13:26
the voters saying, hey, we're going to lose
2:13:28
the midterms, which is what's going to happen,
2:13:30
and then Trump's going to get impeached again,
2:13:32
and probably again he's going to get impeached
2:13:34
four times, probably.
2:13:37
It's unbelievable.
2:13:39
These Republicans are lazy.
2:13:42
Well, they don't have the spark right now.
2:13:44
They don't have the MAGA spark, which is
2:13:46
partially thanks to the podcast wars, Nick Fuentes,
2:13:51
other agents of change and destabilization.
2:13:55
Then Trump is busy doing stuff.
2:13:57
He doesn't care.
2:13:58
I think even if he gets impeached, he's
2:14:00
still going to keep moving.
2:14:01
They can't stop him from doing what he's
2:14:02
doing.
2:14:02
No, he's not going to change anything, but
2:14:03
he's not going to get anywhere with the
2:14:05
Congress that's deadlocked.
2:14:06
He doesn't need Congress.
2:14:08
He'll just kill everything that he wants to.
2:14:11
He's not going to get everything he wants
2:14:13
to.
2:14:14
He would be better off with a Congress
2:14:17
that was amenable to passing laws that were
2:14:20
in his favor, as opposed to a bunch
2:14:22
of asshole Democrats who are going to be
2:14:28
lording it over everybody.
2:14:30
And Republicans.
2:14:32
They're just as bad, the Republicans.
2:14:33
I'm telling you, they do not want Trump
2:14:36
to win.
2:14:37
They're sick of it.
2:14:38
They want stability.
2:14:39
They want to go back to their home.
2:14:41
They want to hang out.
2:14:43
People need to.
2:14:44
Yeah, you're right.
2:14:45
Republicans, if you're talking about the public at
2:14:47
large, the organization, the fire, I think is
2:14:50
gone.
2:14:51
Feels lost.
2:14:53
So it reminds me of California.
2:14:55
We have a Republican National Republican, California Republican
2:14:58
Committee, whatever it's called, and they don't do
2:15:01
anything.
2:15:02
They didn't put any money behind Garvey when
2:15:04
he ran for Senate.
2:15:05
They let this guy, you know, this screwball.
2:15:08
What's his name?
2:15:09
Schiff becomes senator of California.
2:15:12
That's a humiliation.
2:15:14
And now they're going to have governorship running.
2:15:17
They got within a run and they're running
2:15:18
Steve Hilton.
2:15:20
And that's the Republican guy.
2:15:22
I mean, this is ridiculous.
2:15:24
They're going to hand over some fat Katie
2:15:26
Porter will be the governor.
2:15:28
Or or Steyer, Tom Steyer.
2:15:31
He's got a shot at it.
2:15:32
We have to listen to this guy.
2:15:34
And you still won't leave.
2:15:37
No, I can't complain enough.
2:15:41
All right.
2:15:41
A couple we're we're late now.
2:15:44
A couple of clips on.
2:15:45
Oh, no.
2:15:45
Yeah, we are.
2:15:46
We're like a couple of clips on my
2:15:47
fault.
2:15:50
Minnesota, the first one, where did this come
2:15:54
from?
2:15:54
This was.
2:15:57
Where is it now?
2:16:00
Oh, yes.
2:16:00
CBS.
2:16:01
A week after the killing of Renee Good
2:16:03
in Minneapolis, the fallout continues.
2:16:06
A vigil this morning followed fierce overnight clashes
2:16:09
as massed immigration agents by the thousands continue
2:16:12
to work in the city.
2:16:13
And after this incident caught on tape showing
2:16:18
a woman pulled and dragged by agents.
2:16:20
Meanwhile, a half dozen federal prosecutors in Minnesota,
2:16:24
including the man Trump named acting U.S.
2:16:26
attorney last summer, Joe Thompson, have quit in
2:16:28
protest, according to sources speaking with CBS News.
2:16:32
Some over the Trump administration's decision not to
2:16:34
investigate the federal agent who shot Renee Good
2:16:36
and to instead investigate good herself and Good's
2:16:40
widow.
2:16:41
The woman and her friend were highly disrespectful
2:16:44
of law enforcement.
2:16:45
CBS News has also learned six others in
2:16:48
the Department of Justice and Civil Rights to
2:16:50
Barry White and have left in a mass
2:16:52
exodus to know about the department's decision to
2:16:55
block local authorities from doing their own probe.
2:16:58
Renee Good's family attorney spoke with CBS News
2:17:01
today.
2:17:01
The thought.
2:17:02
And who do you think her attorney is?
2:17:05
Same guy, you know who this same guy
2:17:07
who defended George Floyd?
2:17:10
Yeah.
2:17:10
Yeah.
2:17:11
That there is only a one sided investigation
2:17:16
is really not palatable to the family, nor
2:17:21
should it be to the government or the
2:17:24
American people.
2:17:25
The wave of resignation show crumbling confidence, great
2:17:28
morale.
2:17:29
And what are you talking about?
2:17:30
One sided investigation.
2:17:33
An investigation is an investigation.
2:17:35
Now, it's one sided or the other.
2:17:39
Yeah, but it's Trump is corrupt.
2:17:40
We all know this.
2:17:41
Everything's corrupt.
2:17:42
Epstein is really not palatable to the family,
2:17:46
nor should it be to the government or
2:17:50
the American people.
2:17:51
The wave of resignation show crumbling confidence and
2:17:54
morale inside the Justice Department.
2:17:56
The pattern seems to be that the administration
2:17:58
wants us to do work that advances their
2:18:02
political agenda rather than evaluate cases based on
2:18:05
the facts.
2:18:06
About the federal agent that fired the shot,
2:18:09
Deputy U.S. Attorney General Todd Blanch said
2:18:11
in a statement, there is currently no basis
2:18:13
for a criminal civil rights investigation.
2:18:16
That is a statement that has upset local
2:18:18
authorities in Minneapolis.
2:18:21
So there's all kinds of back and forth.
2:18:23
They're sending in jags now.
2:18:25
I'm not quite sure why, other than to
2:18:27
do more stuff.
2:18:29
And the fraud keeps being uncovered by Nick
2:18:33
Shirley.
2:18:34
He's got a new one with another guy.
2:18:36
Yeah, I like this new.
2:18:37
He's got four bodyguards with him now.
2:18:39
He's not an idiot.
2:18:40
And he has a new guy, another old
2:18:42
guy who's unidentified.
2:18:44
But OK, it's not the same guy.
2:18:45
No, it's not.
2:18:46
It's a new guy.
2:18:47
It's a new guy.
2:18:48
When a Somali goes to the doctor magically,
2:18:51
they forgot how to speak English.
2:18:52
So they needed an interpreter there.
2:18:54
So the county brings in an interpreter at
2:18:57
one hundred dollars an hour, minimum eight hours
2:18:59
to interpret what the doctor is telling the
2:19:02
patient.
2:19:03
So that's another layer of fraud that nobody's
2:19:05
even talked about or revealed.
2:19:07
And it's millions and millions, hundreds of millions
2:19:09
of dollars all in its own interpreter services.
2:19:12
Because what percentage do you think of these
2:19:13
people, especially if they were born here in
2:19:14
the United States?
2:19:15
They speak English, right?
2:19:16
Of course they do.
2:19:17
They should not be saying no English.
2:19:19
And then remember, the interpreter has to get
2:19:21
to the doctor's office or the hospital.
2:19:23
How are they getting there?
2:19:24
The transportation company.
2:19:25
And then they got to get back home
2:19:26
and that patient had to get to the
2:19:28
doctor's office.
2:19:28
How?
2:19:29
Transportation.
2:19:30
Kids got to get to school.
2:19:31
How?
2:19:31
Transportation.
2:19:32
That's why I said the transportation is the
2:19:34
hub of really, I think, all of this.
2:19:36
So basically what we're talking about between all
2:19:37
these fraudulent businesses, the daycare, the autism centers,
2:19:41
the adult daycare, the home services, and then
2:19:43
the transportation.
2:19:44
And then on top of that, you have
2:19:45
it looped in with them going eventually to
2:19:47
the doctors for translators to be paid by
2:19:50
the state.
2:19:50
That's exactly what's happening.
2:19:52
Yes.
2:19:52
What a business.
2:19:54
I love all these people now doing Nick
2:19:56
Shirley's in their own towns and they're all
2:19:58
running around.
2:19:59
Everybody's Nick Shirley.
2:20:00
It's all out of the blue.
2:20:02
We need.
2:20:03
Out of the blue.
2:20:04
Every.
2:20:04
You're right.
2:20:04
I got it here.
2:20:05
We got in the Bay Area.
2:20:06
We got it.
2:20:07
I'm sure you get a few in Texas.
2:20:09
Probably not as many because there's not so
2:20:10
much corruption.
2:20:11
There's corruption, but not like here.
2:20:14
And yeah, but they went to these transportation
2:20:17
companies.
2:20:19
There's none of those.
2:20:20
There's nobody there.
2:20:21
There's no office.
2:20:22
It's bull crap.
2:20:23
And they're billing him left and right for
2:20:24
nothing that's going on.
2:20:25
Well, the guy.
2:20:26
And then they get threatened.
2:20:27
They're threatening him.
2:20:28
The guy said, I thought that was he
2:20:30
said transportation.
2:20:31
He said, that's really what this is about.
2:20:33
Have you heard that?
2:20:34
Yeah.
2:20:35
No, he's.
2:20:35
Yeah.
2:20:35
And they went through.
2:20:36
They did a thorough investigation.
2:20:38
The bull crap.
2:20:39
Transportation companies.
2:20:40
Yeah.
2:20:41
It's not.
2:20:41
It's not just Minnesota.
2:20:43
It's everywhere.
2:20:44
There's no doubt about it.
2:20:46
They're just.
2:20:46
It's just corruption everywhere.
2:20:48
You know, Joy Reed has, you know, ever
2:20:50
since she got kicked off of Ms. Now
2:20:52
or MSNBC when I was still MSNBC still
2:20:55
does a show on YouTube and she gets
2:20:57
guests.
2:20:58
And I wanted to play these two clips
2:21:00
before we take a break because the Emilio
2:21:03
popped in the state of Minnesota under occupation.
2:21:08
Minnesota, of course, is our latest state to
2:21:09
be inundated by the Trump regime's armed secret
2:21:12
police.
2:21:12
And I want you guys to understand.
2:21:14
I use that language very intentionally.
2:21:18
Because if these scenes were playing out in
2:21:21
any other country, particularly in a global South
2:21:23
country, they were in the Middle East somewhere
2:21:25
or in Africa somewhere.
2:21:27
We in the media would absolutely describe.
2:21:31
I love we in the media on YouTube.
2:21:34
What you're about to see as the invasion
2:21:37
of a city by regime secret police or
2:21:40
by armed regime regime paramilitary.
2:21:48
She's got video Rollins and everything.
2:21:50
John's like the show never went away.
2:21:52
And she probably has more viewers on YouTube.
2:21:55
That's probably true.
2:21:56
He said, have you not learned?
2:21:59
This is why we killed that lesbian.
2:22:02
Can you tell us what happened to you?
2:22:05
So first off, I'm a United States Marine
2:22:07
veteran.
2:22:08
They we were following them from a safe
2:22:11
distance, following ICE agents, following ICE agents.
2:22:16
They tried.
2:22:17
They stopped in the middle of the road
2:22:19
and reversed on 62.
2:22:22
They tried to ram our car.
2:22:24
They broke my window.
2:22:25
They yanked me out by my neck.
2:22:27
They threw me to the ground.
2:22:29
They stomped on me.
2:22:30
They pushed my face into the ground.
2:22:32
They put the cuffs on as tight as
2:22:34
possible to the point where it took six
2:22:35
agents to try to get him off.
2:22:37
Talk about slanted investigation.
2:22:41
Wait a minute.
2:22:42
Why is she even there?
2:22:43
She was cuffed and beaten to a pulp
2:22:47
and then obviously taken somewhere.
2:22:50
Why is she standing there?
2:22:51
Because it's nonsense, I think.
2:22:55
Or she was a troublemaker.
2:22:57
Here's the second part.
2:22:58
You'll notice that when ICE started out, they
2:23:01
were targeting Latino men very intentionally.
2:23:04
Most of the people they were running up
2:23:05
to on the street were brown men.
2:23:08
And that was very intentional because they were
2:23:10
trying to put forward a narrative that what
2:23:13
they were doing was hunting down the worst
2:23:14
of the worst.
2:23:15
And the worst of the worst were Tren
2:23:16
de Aragua and other gang members.
2:23:19
But now, particularly in the wake of Renee
2:23:23
Good's murder.
2:23:24
Murder?
2:23:26
The complexion and gender of the targets is
2:23:30
shifting.
2:23:31
Have you noticed that?
2:23:32
You're seeing more and more women.
2:23:34
Now, this is really egregious what she does
2:23:37
here.
2:23:37
Now it's like, oh, we're just going after
2:23:39
black women, that ICE is just a bunch
2:23:41
of Nazi SSers.
2:23:43
I mean, do these people really think that
2:23:47
ICE is just going around just grabbing people?
2:23:50
Do you feel like that's happening, John?
2:23:53
No, I don't think so.
2:23:54
But I'm under the impression that these people
2:23:59
believe it.
2:24:00
Oh, there's no doubt about that because this
2:24:02
is the continuous message.
2:24:03
And here comes the milieu talk.
2:24:05
And as you see in that video, more
2:24:08
and more people who are black.
2:24:10
Because remember, the quota is being set by
2:24:13
Stephen Miller.
2:24:14
And he wanted 3,500 people a day.
2:24:16
You saw a black pregnant woman being thrown
2:24:19
to the ground and kidnapped and thrown into
2:24:20
a van.
2:24:21
Kidnapped.
2:24:21
You saw a brown woman who was just
2:24:23
on her way to a doctor's appointment who's
2:24:25
being given conflicting directions.
2:24:27
Go, don't go.
2:24:29
Go, get out of the car.
2:24:30
She has no idea what to do.
2:24:31
Then she gets dragged out of the car.
2:24:33
She's not being accused of a crime.
2:24:35
She's just in their way.
2:24:37
And you saw a black woman whose husband
2:24:40
is dragged off from their home, and you
2:24:42
see her out there crying.
2:24:43
This is where the regime is going.
2:24:45
Yes, please.
2:24:46
I have to say, we shouldn't fall for
2:24:48
the okey-doke.
2:24:49
We know what they're trying to do.
2:24:51
They're trying to excite black folk.
2:24:53
And everybody else will get angry.
2:24:55
Correct.
2:24:55
So they can go ahead and have the
2:24:56
authority to pass this stupid state law where
2:25:01
they can basically just take over the country
2:25:03
and do what they want to do.
2:25:04
So black folk, do not fall for the
2:25:06
okey-doke.
2:25:07
Do you remember the okey-doke?
2:25:10
That was Obama's phrase.
2:25:12
If we okey-doke, you know, it sounds
2:25:21
okey-doke.
2:25:22
The tweets are okey-doke.
2:25:25
That's right.
2:25:26
Obama, I think Obama's still giving people direction
2:25:31
with his okey-doke.
2:25:35
Oh, you might be right, because I keep
2:25:37
seeing Schumerisms in some of the crap that
2:25:39
the Democrats pull.
2:25:42
Like that candlelight vigil has Schumer written all
2:25:45
over it.
2:25:45
Of course, he was at the front of
2:25:47
it.
2:25:47
But the whole idea, it's like when they
2:25:49
all took a knee in Congress, and they
2:25:52
had some wrap around their neck, that was
2:25:55
Schumer.
2:25:58
The sit-ins, I think, were Schumer.
2:26:00
Remember when Congress was sitting in its own
2:26:03
chambers?
2:26:03
Oh, yes.
2:26:04
They did the sit-in.
2:26:05
They did a sit-in on themselves.
2:26:09
Yeah.
2:26:12
Yeah, these guys, they never let up.
2:26:15
No, but you're right.
2:26:17
There's a portion of the country that absolutely
2:26:19
believes what they're saying.
2:26:22
They absolutely do.
2:26:22
There's a big portion.
2:26:24
This was a classic Scott Adams.
2:26:26
Same movie, two different screens.
2:26:28
That was a classic.
2:26:28
That was one he would hammer over and
2:26:30
over again, and there's no changing it.
2:26:33
Yeah, we had it as Dimension A and
2:26:35
Dimension B.
2:26:36
Yeah, well, we don't even go there anymore
2:26:37
because they're lost.
2:26:38
It's sad.
2:26:39
They're lost.
2:26:40
I don't think we can ever get them
2:26:42
back to reality.
2:26:45
Well, they say every once in a while,
2:26:47
this is the problem.
2:26:49
I can't disagree, which is what you hate
2:26:52
me saying.
2:26:52
But every so often, one of them snaps
2:26:57
and goes over and they say, wait a
2:26:59
minute, I've been bullcrapped.
2:27:02
I'm not going to put up with this
2:27:04
anymore, and they quit.
2:27:05
Remember the leave the party?
2:27:07
Well, yeah.
2:27:08
You remember who that was?
2:27:10
Candace Owens.
2:27:12
Blexit.
2:27:14
That's right.
2:27:14
She was one of the first to do
2:27:15
it.
2:27:16
And what did she turn out to be?
2:27:18
A disruption.
2:27:21
You got to be careful.
2:27:24
You got to be careful.
2:27:27
Yeah, yeah.
2:27:28
Candace Owens is a good example.
2:27:31
You don't know what the hell's going on
2:27:33
with her.
2:27:33
No, and she's kind of falling off the
2:27:35
radar.
2:27:36
I mean, the whole everything is falling apart.
2:27:39
As predicted, it's like you can't be hammering
2:27:42
on one thing continuously.
2:27:45
They don't understand.
2:27:46
Audiences don't like that.
2:27:47
They get tired of it.
2:27:50
And they need good arguments from time to
2:27:53
time, which is why people continue to come
2:27:57
to us.
2:27:58
Well, that's because we don't stay on one
2:27:59
topic.
2:28:00
No.
2:28:01
You can be in Africa one minute, and
2:28:03
you can be in Minneapolis the next, and
2:28:05
you wouldn't know the difference.
2:28:08
And with that.
2:28:09
Yes, well, okay.
2:28:10
Thank you for the reminder that I did
2:28:13
Africa clips.
2:28:14
So I'm now the one minus one.
2:28:16
No, Africa.
2:28:17
It's your turn to do Africa clips next.
2:28:19
Africa and Somalia.
2:28:21
That was my point.
2:28:22
Somalia.
2:28:24
Somalia, Sudan.
2:28:25
It's all the same.
2:28:27
Yes.
2:28:27
Hey, with that, I want to thank you
2:28:28
for your courage in the morning to you,
2:28:30
the man who put the sea in the.
2:28:33
I don't have anything.
2:28:36
I don't have anything.
2:28:39
What?
2:28:49
Yeah.
2:28:58
You know, whenever there's a war where somebody
2:29:01
dies, people show up.
2:29:03
We're almost back at 1800 for our Thursday.
2:29:07
Yeah.
2:29:08
It's a death.
2:29:09
Death and war is good for the show.
2:29:11
Yeah.
2:29:12
Yeah.
2:29:12
I noticed this.
2:29:13
Yeah.
2:29:15
The trolls are with us here in the
2:29:17
troll room, a troll room dot IO or
2:29:19
no agenda stream.com.
2:29:21
You can always listen live through a modern
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podcast app.
2:29:24
I highly recommend you get one of those.
2:29:25
It's it really is the way to listen
2:29:28
to the no agenda show.
2:29:29
If you want to listen live.
2:29:30
And if you don't, you want to get
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one of those because within 90 seconds of
2:29:33
us posting the show, you will be notified.
2:29:35
You don't have to wait 15 minutes.
2:29:37
Sometimes hours when your app updates, it's a,
2:29:42
it's very old fashioned.
2:29:43
So go with the modern podcast at modern
2:29:45
podcast apps.com.
2:29:47
And the trolls are of course, a part
2:29:50
of our value for value system.
2:29:53
They contribute.
2:29:54
Well, we got a good contribution.
2:29:56
We found out that efficiency experts, there you
2:29:58
go.
2:29:59
That was a good troll contribution.
2:30:01
Finally, many other ways you can contribute your
2:30:04
time and your talent and your treasure.
2:30:06
The three T's of value for value.
2:30:07
One of them is by bringing us artwork
2:30:10
for the show.
2:30:11
And we already mentioned him earlier, but comic
2:30:13
strip blogger just nailed it for episode 1832.
2:30:16
We titled that spicy mode.
2:30:18
And, and there she was, there was the
2:30:21
pregnant astronaut floating in space.
2:30:24
And it was good.
2:30:26
I mean, we both looked at all the
2:30:28
different, you also had a naked astronaut.
2:30:31
Yeah, that wasn't happening.
2:30:31
That was not going to happen at all.
2:30:33
Oh, what happened?
2:30:34
Oh, I hit the wrong one.
2:30:36
There we go.
2:30:37
Let's see what we had.
2:30:38
It's all AI, obviously, um, which is just
2:30:42
what it is these days.
2:30:45
Uh, yes.
2:30:46
He had two pregos in space.
2:30:47
Obviously we're not going to do the naked
2:30:49
lady.
2:30:50
I'm not going to do that.
2:30:51
Um, you kind of like the Matthew Dopko's,
2:30:54
uh, astronaut baby, the space baby, which is
2:30:58
another contender.
2:30:59
This is all a no agenda, art generator
2:31:01
.com, uh, which has been available for probably
2:31:05
15 years in one version or another.
2:31:07
And anybody can contribute by uploading art to
2:31:09
it.
2:31:10
And we just select one and we credit
2:31:11
someone as an artist.
2:31:14
And, um, and it's all AI.
2:31:18
What can I say?
2:31:19
It's, uh, it's bland.
2:31:21
It's weak.
2:31:22
It's annoying.
2:31:24
It's annoying.
2:31:25
Was there anything else that, uh, that we
2:31:27
liked?
2:31:28
I don't think there was anything.
2:31:30
I did use, please donate for the newsletter.
2:31:33
Of course, that's what you want to do.
2:31:35
That was a good one.
2:31:36
Yeah.
2:31:36
Oh, the little sad puppy for some, instead
2:31:39
of being Brown or white, he's black and
2:31:40
white, which I thought was, I know I
2:31:42
did that.
2:31:42
The one by Senate, by M Senate, that
2:31:45
one.
2:31:45
Yeah.
2:31:46
It was something else.
2:31:48
I thought that somebody did something very creative.
2:31:51
Well, talk about it.
2:31:53
Uh, wait, like tomorrow, we'll talk about tomorrow,
2:31:57
tomorrow show, tomorrow show.
2:31:59
Let me see how many, lots of Scott
2:32:01
Adams, of course.
2:32:02
Yeah.
2:32:02
All right.
2:32:03
Well, there's still room people.
2:32:05
I recommend you, uh, give it a shot.
2:32:07
Go to your, go to your favorite AI
2:32:09
art generator for as long as they last.
2:32:12
You know, there's all kinds of things happening
2:32:13
now with, um, Claude, I think it is
2:32:16
code generator.
2:32:17
Is that a Claude code generator?
2:32:19
Now they're saying, Hey, you know, it's been
2:32:21
in our terms of service for a couple
2:32:23
of years now or whatever, all of 2025.
2:32:26
Uh, but you can't actually use us and
2:32:28
other products, uh, unless you pay for higher
2:32:31
tier access, everybody's losing their minds.
2:32:34
It's like, well, what do you expect?
2:32:35
These guys got to make money at some
2:32:37
point.
2:32:38
That point is now.
2:32:40
And I think the only I've said before,
2:32:43
I think Google will win.
2:32:45
Nobody else.
2:32:46
Current numbers.
2:32:47
I think it was, I don't know.
2:32:47
It was chat GPT or one of these
2:32:49
groups.
2:32:50
They, they came out with some numbers and
2:32:52
they were, they did like a hundred and
2:32:54
a hundred.
2:32:55
I think it was a hundred million in
2:32:58
sales and, and they lost 1.4 billion.
2:33:03
Yeah.
2:33:04
Yeah.
2:33:04
So the basic, so the numbers, so you
2:33:06
have, you have a more or less everything
2:33:10
you do for free on these systems.
2:33:14
They're, they're giving you the, the, the result
2:33:17
plus 10 bucks for all practical purposes.
2:33:20
They're giving you a $10 bill every time
2:33:22
you use these things.
2:33:23
I was thinking this morning that when, when
2:33:26
they have to upgrade all of these data
2:33:28
centers with all new NVIDIA chips and everything,
2:33:32
there's going to be so much cool stuff.
2:33:35
You'll be able to buy for pennies on
2:33:37
the dollar that you can then run at
2:33:38
home.
2:33:40
Cause right now there's a business opportunity.
2:33:42
Oh yeah.
2:33:43
Reselling these.
2:33:45
Cause what, what does the high end NVIDIA
2:33:46
stuff go for?
2:33:47
10,000 50, some go for 18, most
2:33:50
of the whole systems.
2:33:51
Now they sell a complete data centers.
2:33:53
They're in the business of makes it hard
2:33:56
for anyone to compete.
2:33:58
Yeah.
2:33:58
Well, they're going to keep that going for
2:34:00
a while.
2:34:00
That is 90% of our GDP.
2:34:03
Probably.
2:34:03
We can't, can't ruin that.
2:34:05
Got to keep that, got to keep that
2:34:07
thing going.
2:34:08
There's going to come with a new gambit.
2:34:10
The, the new chat.
2:34:12
This one's going to break the bank.
2:34:14
Sorry.
2:34:17
So we don't even need a central bank
2:34:19
to break us.
2:34:19
We just need Chad GPT.
2:34:22
That'll break us.
2:34:22
That'll break the bank.
2:34:23
There's no doubt about it.
2:34:24
I mean, the numbers don't add up, but
2:34:28
if you only give us a little more
2:34:30
power, then a little more power, then we
2:34:34
will have, we will finally have real intelligence.
2:34:37
I'm impressed though.
2:34:38
I'm impressed with Gemini.
2:34:40
Yeah.
2:34:40
I know you've been saying this for weeks.
2:34:41
You really like it for search, for search
2:34:44
stuff.
2:34:44
It's good at search stuff.
2:34:46
I mean, and for some coding, but how
2:34:49
big is that market?
2:34:50
What's the TAM of coding?
2:34:56
It's not going to pay for it.
2:34:57
That's for sure.
2:34:58
No, this is, this is a, it's a
2:35:02
great technology.
2:35:04
I think, I mean, you think it sucks,
2:35:06
but I like it.
2:35:08
And it's just, it's a super.
2:35:10
And the reason, one of the reasons I
2:35:11
like it because I think I sense that
2:35:13
I'm, I'm getting, they're shipping me money.
2:35:15
Well, I'm, I'm not saying it sucks.
2:35:17
I'm saying the art sucks that, that, you
2:35:20
know, we don't have real artists anymore.
2:35:21
We don't have, well, we actually have two
2:35:23
today because people got so fed up with
2:35:25
hearing the slop, but it, yeah, it sucks
2:35:27
because it's hurting the show.
2:35:28
It's hurting the show with mediocre art.
2:35:31
That's okay.
2:35:32
It's not great.
2:35:33
I think like that last piece that Thomas
2:35:36
strip blogger did of the pregnant woman in,
2:35:39
in space.
2:35:40
I think it was an, you know, who
2:35:42
no one, nobody has time to, to actually
2:35:44
render that in time to get it in
2:35:47
by the end of the show.
2:35:48
It's the, this is made it.
2:35:50
No, we get lots of quick art, 10,
2:35:53
15, 20 people who would do it and
2:35:55
they all gave up.
2:35:56
It is hurt.
2:35:58
The quality would have given up.
2:35:59
How about this?
2:36:00
It would have given up anyway.
2:36:01
Cause it's too much work.
2:36:02
No, no, they gave up because they, it's
2:36:05
like this song.
2:36:06
Okay.
2:36:06
Here's the songs are a good example.
2:36:08
Yeah.
2:36:08
We had same five years ago.
2:36:11
We had fabulous songwriters and people doing parodies
2:36:14
of songs and yes.
2:36:16
Cutting in Obama's.
2:36:18
Yes.
2:36:19
Stammering and all the rest of it.
2:36:20
And they all quit.
2:36:23
Because, because, because they can't compete.
2:36:26
No, they all quit before the day I
2:36:29
started taking over.
2:36:30
Well, that's true.
2:36:30
They did start, they started, but I think
2:36:32
COVID kills a lot of people.
2:36:34
I mean, not literally as well, but, and
2:36:36
you know, a lot of people just were,
2:36:38
did they, they blew their wine.
2:36:39
I have saved the show.
2:36:42
Okay.
2:36:43
Let us thank our executive and associate executive
2:36:46
producer for episode 1834.
2:36:49
We thank everybody, $50 and above.
2:36:51
And we start with a donation from Spain,
2:36:54
from Valencia.
2:36:57
And this is interesting.
2:36:58
I think this is Eric, Eric, Jan Huben.
2:37:01
He's a Dutch guy, but I think he's,
2:37:05
he's in Valencia, but he's part-time Brazilian.
2:37:08
It was very confusing.
2:37:11
And here he is.
2:37:12
Dear John Adams.
2:37:13
Since the beginning of the no agenda show,
2:37:15
I'm a listener, but I've only donated $33
2:37:17
over 10 years ago.
2:37:19
Well, okay.
2:37:21
Good to see you back on the list.
2:37:23
I'm here by stepping up to knighthood with
2:37:25
this $966 donation.
2:37:28
Adam may top it off to a thousand
2:37:30
dollars.
2:37:31
He actually did email me about this.
2:37:33
And I say, yes, I would drop in
2:37:35
a silver dollar.
2:37:36
So there it is.
2:37:37
As a Dutchman, I got to know the
2:37:40
U S a lot like the penny.
2:37:42
Yeah, it's a yes.
2:37:45
I didn't have time to hit it a
2:37:46
hundred times as a Dutchman.
2:37:48
I got to know the U S and
2:37:50
86, 87 as a senior at Petaluma high
2:37:52
school, Petaluma.
2:37:54
I still remember it as the most outstanding
2:37:56
athlete.
2:37:57
More importantly at the school, I wrote a
2:37:59
paper about an ambitious New York businessman.
2:38:01
And I predicted that one day he would
2:38:02
become the U S president.
2:38:04
My teacher, Mrs. Paula's Donich was really proud
2:38:07
to read that.
2:38:08
That would be so nice.
2:38:09
She said, because he's German, just like me.
2:38:14
Now, almost 40 years later, I conclude that
2:38:16
the no agenda show is the only one
2:38:18
that can separate the politics, the show and
2:38:20
the trolling by that man from New York.
2:38:23
And that is something very much needed in
2:38:24
today's crazy media world.
2:38:27
Chow says, Eric, by the way, PS as
2:38:30
a part-time Brazilian, I want the title
2:38:33
Baron of big, beautiful Bahia, but it seems
2:38:37
my donation Bahia, but my, it seems my
2:38:40
donation only makes me a night in that
2:38:41
case.
2:38:41
I'd like to be referred as the night
2:38:43
of the big, beautiful Bahia, please add Bahia.
2:38:47
What am I saying?
2:38:48
Bahia, Bahia, Bahia.
2:38:50
Where is Bahia?
2:38:52
It's a kind of a North, the East
2:38:55
of Sao Paulo.
2:38:57
It's a, it's a big giant.
2:38:58
It's a big state that had, that is
2:39:00
known as you don't go there without partying
2:39:04
24, seven, three 65.
2:39:07
It's the party state of Brazil.
2:39:10
And, uh, by he, by he, by he
2:39:13
is very famous for music and parties.
2:39:20
And as sound clips, he wanted Adam's birds
2:39:23
in space from yesterday's show with the echo
2:39:26
effect.
2:39:27
Well, we don't typically clip stuff out of
2:39:29
the show because like, wow, someone's going to
2:39:31
request that, but I'll do it live for
2:39:33
you.
2:39:34
And his second clip is space force.
2:39:35
So I can do that.
2:39:40
Space force.
2:39:45
Sir.
2:39:45
Fat dad.
2:39:46
Parts unknown.
2:39:47
Three 69.
2:39:49
Uh, he's sir.
2:39:50
Fat.
2:39:50
He's also sir.
2:39:51
Fat dad of the BMX.
2:39:53
Uh, BBM Mexicans.
2:39:55
He has been a frequent supporter of the
2:39:57
show.
2:39:58
Yeah.
2:39:58
BM Mexicans.
2:40:00
Uh, with this donation at three, six, nine,
2:40:02
six nine.
2:40:03
I'm now two times a night, which I
2:40:05
believe is a baronet.
2:40:07
Uh, gay as gay, as that title sounds.
2:40:13
Oh, okay.
2:40:14
Gay is that he's got a spelled funny.
2:40:16
I'll take it.
2:40:16
No, that's the spelling of fake and gay.
2:40:19
G H is it?
2:40:20
Yes.
2:40:20
I've never seen it spelled out.
2:40:22
They can gay with G H E Y.
2:40:24
That's cute.
2:40:27
May I please have a S F 35
2:40:29
race karma as I am once again, attempting
2:40:32
to qualify for the USA BMX world championship
2:40:37
team in the 50 plus.
2:40:39
Wow.
2:40:40
50 plus cruisers category.
2:40:43
Uh, BMX, man, I 50 years old driving
2:40:46
a motorcycle like a maniac.
2:40:48
Uh, I don't know.
2:40:49
BMX cycling championships.
2:40:51
It's not a motorcycle.
2:40:53
It's a, uh, it's a, it's a bike.
2:40:54
It's a bike.
2:40:55
It's a mountain bike.
2:40:56
R a.
2:40:57
Yeah.
2:40:57
But they do.
2:40:58
It's rough.
2:41:00
Uh, or it's, it's rough on the prostate
2:41:03
are in Brisbane, Australia this year.
2:41:05
And sure.
2:41:06
I won't win, but I couldn't think of
2:41:08
a better place to get my butt whooped
2:41:10
on a bike.
2:41:12
Then on the vacation of a lifetime down
2:41:14
under, thank you for your attention to this
2:41:16
matter.
2:41:16
Rob, AKA sir, fat dad of the BMX
2:41:19
again, you've got karma.
2:41:27
Now, before we continue, did you get a
2:41:29
bag?
2:41:30
Did you get a bag from, uh, Katie
2:41:34
Dietrich.net?
2:41:36
The, the toiletry bag.
2:41:39
Uh, maybe.
2:41:40
Yeah, I think so.
2:41:41
Now, yeah, it had a devil shaver stuff
2:41:43
in it.
2:41:44
No, I didn't have any shavers.
2:41:45
It's a, okay.
2:41:46
No, this is a bag I got before.
2:41:48
Okay.
2:41:49
Because she sent me Kate Dietrich.net.
2:41:51
She sent there.
2:41:52
They have a no agenda, but toiletry bags
2:41:56
now on the website.
2:41:58
There's, there's the pod father bag.
2:42:00
And the grumpy bag, I think it's called.
2:42:03
Why am I the grump?
2:42:04
I don't know.
2:42:05
Go figure.
2:42:07
But my bag included, uh, a small box
2:42:11
of Dutch licorice.
2:42:13
And you and your Dutch licorice.
2:42:16
I know it's going to kill me and
2:42:17
$450 in cash.
2:42:20
So I wondered if you had received $450
2:42:24
in cash so we can credit them appropriately.
2:42:28
I, it would be, it would have been
2:42:30
opened by, it would have been in the
2:42:31
box.
2:42:32
It wasn't, there was no big box.
2:42:34
So she sent it to me.
2:42:36
So, um, but we'll, uh, we'll make sure
2:42:38
that gets into the, uh, into the proper
2:42:40
accounts.
2:42:42
So thank you very much.
2:42:43
Kate Dietrich.net.
2:42:45
I don't think there was a note other
2:42:46
than here's your bag.
2:42:48
Love you.
2:42:50
Maybe.
2:42:50
Okay.
2:42:51
Yeah.
2:42:51
Make double, double check that though, because you
2:42:54
know, well, maybe something will come.
2:42:56
I mean, we did, uh, we got a,
2:42:58
a donation from Jackie Green and his wife,
2:43:02
Kyle.
2:43:03
And she, uh, that's coming up.
2:43:07
Yeah.
2:43:07
But she said, I'm just saying she sent
2:43:09
something about a month ago, never showed up.
2:43:11
I hate that.
2:43:13
And then this, the other thing she mails,
2:43:15
it shows up the next day.
2:43:16
Hmm.
2:43:18
Wow.
2:43:19
So Aaron, the Darien's up, he's in Trabuco
2:43:22
Canyon, California.
2:43:24
Uh, he is, in for four, I'm sorry,
2:43:27
three 43, 75.
2:43:30
And he says, rest in peace, Scott Adams.
2:43:34
Oh, I'm sorry.
2:43:35
I've just read two in a row.
2:43:36
Let me do it.
2:43:38
The one I was supposed to read that
2:43:42
was yours.
2:43:43
Yeah.
2:43:43
So I'm going to, so I don't want
2:43:44
to get off schedule.
2:43:45
So I'm going to go sir.
2:43:46
Cucaracha who's in Finland, Minnesota.
2:43:49
The only reason is because I have the
2:43:50
note queued up three 3333.
2:43:53
And he wrote a, a typed note that
2:43:57
says, sir.
2:43:58
Cucaracha of the North woods, Finland, Minnesota nuts.
2:44:02
And he wants noodle gun, WTC seven and
2:44:05
F 35 karma.
2:44:07
I T M get bone nation.
2:44:08
I feel like a massive douche for not
2:44:11
donating for so long.
2:44:12
Please.
2:44:13
D douche me.
2:44:15
You've been D douched Adam.
2:44:21
How can I donate Bitcoin to the show
2:44:22
directly from my hardware wallet?
2:44:24
No QR scanner.
2:44:26
There is a link.
2:44:27
There is a newsletter that is specific for
2:44:30
this.
2:44:30
Yep.
2:44:32
You just go to that link.
2:44:34
Well, does it take you to the QR
2:44:35
scan?
2:44:36
He's looking for the Bitcoin wallet address, which
2:44:38
we can certainly put on the website.
2:44:41
No, it doesn't take it.
2:44:42
The QR codes are on the newsletter.
2:44:45
And then the link for people that use
2:44:47
a computer is there too.
2:44:50
And you click on it or you click
2:44:52
on it.
2:44:52
You can click on the, on the QR
2:44:54
codes and it'll take you to that normal
2:44:56
methodology.
2:44:58
No, that's, that's not true.
2:45:02
What does it do?
2:45:03
It doesn't, it just takes you to the
2:45:05
QR codes.
2:45:08
He wants, he doesn't want to scan.
2:45:11
Did you take that little link at the
2:45:13
bottom there and cut and paste it?
2:45:15
And it's just more QR codes.
2:45:16
What link on the newsletter in the newsletter?
2:45:21
No.
2:45:21
Yeah.
2:45:22
That's what I'm talking about.
2:45:23
The newsletter.
2:45:27
I don't know what you're talking about.
2:45:29
Well, my point is, it's very easy for
2:45:31
us to add that to the website.
2:45:33
It's on the newsletter.
2:45:34
And it's, I think it's, I think it
2:45:35
takes us to the website, which is our
2:45:38
website, which has that information.
2:45:40
I'm pretty sure.
2:45:41
Okay.
2:45:41
I don't use Bitcoin, so I can't confirm
2:45:43
any of this, but nobody's complained about it.
2:45:45
Well, he is.
2:45:46
He's, he's complaining.
2:45:47
Does he even get the newsletter?
2:45:49
But the newsletter takes you to the website.
2:45:53
That link.
2:45:54
And on the website, it's just the QR
2:45:56
codes.
2:45:57
Let me double check.
2:45:58
That's redundant.
2:46:00
Does it make sense?
2:46:01
Well, yeah.
2:46:02
Or, or click here to use Stripe.
2:46:05
Let's see.
2:46:06
Go there.
2:46:08
No, no, no.
2:46:10
I'll, I'll, I'll work with you.
2:46:12
You fix it.
2:46:13
Yeah, I'm going to fix it.
2:46:15
I found your North Sea continues his note.
2:46:17
I found your North Sea Nexus analysis to
2:46:19
be particularly enlightening.
2:46:21
I was trying to describe the North Sea
2:46:24
Nexus thesis to a friend, a friend I
2:46:29
have tried to hit in the mouth multiple
2:46:30
times, but to no avail.
2:46:32
He was intrigued, but I still can't get
2:46:35
him to listen to the show.
2:46:36
This gave me an idea for the next
2:46:39
vacation special calling all no agenda producers are
2:46:43
actually competent with technology.
2:46:46
Please make a special show with all the
2:46:48
clips discussion discussing the North Sea Nexus.
2:46:52
We have two hours worth.
2:46:54
I don't think I think this could actually
2:46:55
be a good intro show to hit some
2:46:57
people in the mouth and leave a Mark.
2:47:00
Please credit my son Galvin with this donation
2:47:03
towards the future knighthood.
2:47:04
Thanks John and Adam for all the producers
2:47:06
and the producer for everything you do to
2:47:08
make the best podcast universe possible.
2:47:10
Sir Cucaracha of the North woods.
2:47:22
I got to my pasta glock locked and
2:47:25
loaded.
2:47:32
You've got karma.
2:47:39
We go to sir young inkeeper of Amsterdam
2:47:43
three 33 dot 33 and he says, dear
2:47:45
Adam, I'm not sure if my note was
2:47:46
delivered last Tuesday.
2:47:48
In the meantime, the horrible news came in
2:47:50
as Robert Jensen has passed away.
2:47:52
You and he had dinner in my restaurant
2:47:54
together prior to COVID.
2:47:55
Yes, I remember he's a very nice restaurant
2:47:57
in Amsterdam.
2:47:58
Let's make it a Robert Jensen donation.
2:48:02
A request karma for my best friend heel
2:48:04
with love, AKA sir young, the innkeeper of
2:48:08
Amsterdam.
2:48:08
Thank you very much.
2:48:10
You've got karma but it plugged his own
2:48:16
restaurant.
2:48:17
Now he doesn't have to do that.
2:48:21
Dutch Travis Moore in Gibsonville, North Carolina, three,
2:48:27
three, three dot three, three ITM.
2:48:31
Thank you for being the best podcast in
2:48:33
the universe.
2:48:33
You're welcome.
2:48:34
I'd like to congratulate our son Jordan on
2:48:39
getting his commercial plumbing license at 22.
2:48:44
I didn't know you needed a license to
2:48:45
be a plumber.
2:48:46
Can I get some goat karma for the,
2:48:49
for the bill for a bills win over
2:48:52
the Broncos go bills.
2:48:55
You've got karma and good luck.
2:49:01
And there we have a dame girl, Kyle,
2:49:05
Kylie.
2:49:06
I forget now Kylie.
2:49:07
I think it was Kyle.
2:49:08
No, no, it's Kyle.
2:49:09
Kyle.
2:49:09
Thank you.
2:49:10
Insert TG.
2:49:11
That was the note wishing you and your
2:49:14
families.
2:49:16
And all of no agenda nation, peace, love
2:49:18
and good health for 2026.
2:49:20
Dame girl, Kylie and sir, Jackie green.
2:49:23
And the amount was 333 dot 33.
2:49:27
Thank you very much.
2:49:28
Yeah, that was nice.
2:49:29
So Joshua in, in noon in noon in
2:49:34
Georgia, I TM gentleman coming to you from
2:49:37
the Chile from Chile, Poland.
2:49:39
He's in Poland.
2:49:40
My only request for you is to pull
2:49:42
up.
2:49:42
No agenda show episode eight 75 at 22
2:49:46
minutes, 33 seconds of 45, two minutes, two
2:49:50
hours, 33 minutes, 45.
2:49:52
Adam discusses the electoral process where no candidate
2:49:57
gets to 270.
2:49:58
Lo and behold, Adam is the reason we
2:50:02
had sleepy Joe as president and four years
2:50:05
of Adam is the reason.
2:50:07
Huh?
2:50:08
And four years of stumbling and mumbling.
2:50:10
That's your fault, Adam.
2:50:11
And John was cheering for it too.
2:50:14
No, I think you, you, you really tip
2:50:17
the scales by cheering for it.
2:50:20
Thanks guys.
2:50:21
Random Alex Jones, jingle and a F 35
2:50:24
karma, which just seems to be very popular
2:50:26
today.
2:50:26
Thank you.
2:50:27
Third time today.
2:50:28
That's crazy.
2:50:28
Yes.
2:50:29
Thank you.
2:50:29
It's a random number theory, sir.
2:50:31
Joshua protector of the, of the gun line.
2:50:34
What is he talking about?
2:50:36
I don't know.
2:50:37
The apparently on shows eight 75 at two
2:50:40
hours, 33 minutes and 45 seconds.
2:50:42
I mean, if you want, I can listen
2:50:43
to that real quick for a second.
2:50:46
And a, what was the number?
2:50:47
Eight 75.
2:50:49
Might as well check it out now.
2:50:51
It's 75.
2:50:52
Oh, there is no N a eight 75.
2:50:56
How about that?
2:50:57
Huh?
2:51:00
What did we miss a show?
2:51:02
Somehow the plot thickens.
2:51:04
Oh, I'll have to look that one up
2:51:07
and see what that was about.
2:51:08
He wanted a random age.
2:51:10
A and F 35 music has made me
2:51:12
nauseous.
2:51:14
Where'd you get that one?
2:51:16
It was random karma, random, purely random.
2:51:21
I doubt it.
2:51:22
It was random.
2:51:23
Sir, Nate, the rogue in central point, Oregon.
2:51:26
Oh, that, that you sure you're up.
2:51:28
Sorry.
2:51:28
Oh, I'm sorry.
2:51:29
I was already off looking at episode eight
2:51:31
75.
2:51:32
Uh, sir, Nate, the rogue central point, Oregon,
2:51:34
uh, two 25 associate executive producership.
2:51:36
I TM appreciate you both suffering between dimensions.
2:51:39
No kidding.
2:51:40
A quick note on Iran.
2:51:42
I have a childhood best friend whose dad
2:51:44
is from Iran.
2:51:44
They live in California.
2:51:45
Now a lot of the Persians do.
2:51:47
He still has aunts, uncles, cousins, sets are
2:51:49
over there.
2:51:50
And he confirmed yesterday.
2:51:51
They're not able to contact anybody in Iran
2:51:53
right now.
2:51:53
Yes, we're aware.
2:51:54
Keep the people of Iran in my thoughts,
2:51:56
sir.
2:51:57
Nate, the rogue.
2:51:58
Thank you very much, sir.
2:51:59
Nate.
2:52:00
And there we have Linda Lou, Patkin and
2:52:01
castle rock, Colorado's $200 jobs.
2:52:04
Karma.
2:52:05
She says for a competitive edge with a
2:52:06
resume that gets results, go to image makers,
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2:52:13
That's image makers, Inc.
2:52:15
With a K and work with Linda Lou,
2:52:18
the Duchess of jobs and writer of winning
2:52:21
resumes, jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.
2:52:25
Let's vote for jobs.
2:52:29
Karma, which brings us to, Oh, how about
2:52:37
that?
2:52:37
Dana Brunetti checks in with no note.
2:52:42
That seems unlikely.
2:52:44
Yeah.
2:52:45
I mean, he'll email me about the slightest
2:52:47
thing, but no notes, $200.
2:52:51
And he continues his streak as a mere
2:52:54
associate executive producer.
2:52:55
So that is wonderful.
2:52:57
Thank you very much.
2:52:58
Dana Brunetti.
2:52:59
I'm suspicious.
2:53:00
Yeah.
2:53:01
Yeah.
2:53:02
Shingle Springs.
2:53:03
Is that where he is?
2:53:04
Shingle Springs, California.
2:53:06
Yeah.
2:53:06
Well, maybe it's him.
2:53:08
Well, we'd like a note.
2:53:11
If, if you somehow forgot to send us
2:53:13
the note, Dana Brunetti, go look them up
2:53:16
on IMDb.com.
2:53:17
He will now be adding yet another associate
2:53:20
executive producer title to his, to his IMDb
2:53:23
account.
2:53:23
He actually has a pin to the top,
2:53:25
which is kind of cool.
2:53:26
And that is our executive and associate executive
2:53:28
producers for episode 1834.
2:53:31
Thank you so much.
2:53:32
And of course, we'll be thanking the rest
2:53:33
of our $50 and above supporters of the
2:53:36
show value for value, which means you can
2:53:38
support us anytime you want, any amount you
2:53:40
want for any reason.
2:53:42
And with these executive associate executive credits, they're
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good for perpetuity and you can use them
2:53:47
anywhere.
2:53:47
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2:53:49
And we thank you very much.
2:53:51
And of course, we'll always read your note
2:53:52
when you send in one of those.
2:53:53
And again, the rest of the people, $50
2:53:55
and above in our second segment.
2:53:57
Thank you for supporting the best podcast in
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2:54:01
Our formula is this.
2:54:03
We go out.
2:54:04
We hit people in the mouth.
2:54:13
Music has made me nauseous.
2:54:22
Still trying to find show eight 75.
2:54:25
I don't know what happened.
2:54:26
Oh, here it is.
2:54:28
We did have show eight 75.
2:54:30
What was the time code on that?
2:54:32
Let's listen to this time.
2:54:33
Code was two, two.
2:54:36
Oh, I get it.
2:54:38
Oops.
2:54:39
Huh?
2:54:40
Let's see.
2:54:42
Yeah.
2:54:43
Two, two 33 45.
2:54:45
Okay.
2:54:46
Two 33.
2:54:51
That's tough to get there.
2:54:53
Let's see.
2:54:55
What were we talking about?
2:54:56
Oh, it should be playing.
2:54:57
Why is it not?
2:54:58
Oh, here we go.
2:54:59
Yeah, it is.
2:55:01
It is, but they didn't do it.
2:55:04
I haven't.
2:55:04
You're about to protest it.
2:55:06
Wow.
2:55:07
You're cutting out.
2:55:08
You're cutting out.
2:55:08
Listen to how crappy this sounds.
2:55:10
I'm cutting out.
2:55:11
Yeah.
2:55:12
Yeah.
2:55:12
You're cutting out.
2:55:13
I'll find it for the next show.
2:55:14
This, this too much.
2:55:15
That's too much nonsense to listen to.
2:55:19
But some, someone else said that I was
2:55:20
right about something else.
2:55:21
I forgot what it was.
2:55:22
Yeah.
2:55:23
You're right about stuff all the time.
2:55:24
Nah, well, not really.
2:55:27
Yeah.
2:55:28
So, um, I have a Venezuela clip.
2:55:32
I have a, I have two Tik Tok
2:55:35
clips that are interesting.
2:55:37
Okay.
2:55:39
Here is the independent woman.
2:55:42
When someone tells me that they're interested in
2:55:44
me and I should just give them a
2:55:45
chance.
2:55:46
I genuinely ask them, what are you going
2:55:48
to give me that I already don't give
2:55:49
myself?
2:55:50
I have an extensive routine.
2:55:52
Okay.
2:55:52
I wake up at four 30.
2:55:54
I read for an hour.
2:55:55
Then I go to the gym for an
2:55:56
hour.
2:55:57
Then I get ready to go to my
2:55:58
full time job while I'm getting ready.
2:56:00
I make myself breakfast.
2:56:02
Then I pack my lunch, which I have
2:56:03
already meal prepped for myself for the full
2:56:06
week.
2:56:06
I go to work.
2:56:07
I come home from work.
2:56:08
I come home.
2:56:09
I go to the gym for another hour
2:56:11
or two.
2:56:12
Then I come back up to my apartment
2:56:14
that I pay rent for and I clean,
2:56:17
I cook anything else.
2:56:18
And then if I have any time before
2:56:20
my nine 30 PM bedtime, I do another
2:56:22
one of my many hobbies that I have
2:56:24
color, read, crochet puzzle.
2:56:27
Who knows?
2:56:27
What are you going to give me that
2:56:29
I already don't give myself?
2:56:30
I want something.
2:56:31
I buy it.
2:56:32
I pay for all my own bills.
2:56:33
I cook for myself.
2:56:34
I clean for myself.
2:56:35
What are you going to give me that
2:56:38
I already don't give myself?
2:56:39
Because my time is fully booked.
2:56:43
Now that was interesting.
2:56:44
You said yes, because I'm listening to this
2:56:47
woman who is a psycho and I'm thinking
2:56:51
this is the perfect employee that you want
2:56:53
to hire for a company.
2:56:55
She's a dedicated person is very independent.
2:56:58
She work her butt off till she drops
2:57:00
dead at the company.
2:57:02
And you, and she probably works cheap.
2:57:06
I just think this to me is exemplifies
2:57:08
a modern woman who has just decided to
2:57:11
become a cog in the wheel.
2:57:14
And one of her hobbies is coloring, by
2:57:16
the way, which tells you a lot.
2:57:17
I think that's a key.
2:57:18
The show is off the rails.
2:57:20
Now this is what are you doing?
2:57:23
Okay, let's play this one.
2:57:24
Then, then we're done.
2:57:26
I won't do any more tech talks for
2:57:27
a month.
2:57:30
Fat chronically ill woman.
2:57:32
If I needed a job, I would ask
2:57:33
for a job.
2:57:34
I'm disabled and chronically ill and can't work.
2:57:36
I'm disabled and chronically ill and can't work.
2:57:40
Hi, I'm disabled and chronically ill and can't
2:57:42
work.
2:57:42
I had somebody DM me yesterday, had a
2:57:44
message request.
2:57:45
Hi, I have a website.
2:57:47
You could do that work.
2:57:48
It's probably the same amount of work or
2:57:50
less than making tech talks.
2:57:52
First of all, I'm hyper fixated on tech
2:57:54
talk.
2:57:54
If you don't know what that means, then
2:57:56
you don't get to have a conversation with
2:57:58
me.
2:57:58
If you don't understand how that works, you
2:58:00
don't get to have a conversation with me.
2:58:01
But all of my videos say I am
2:58:04
disabled and chronically ill and cannot work or
2:58:06
they should, or they imply that I am
2:58:08
disabled and chronically ill and cannot work.
2:58:10
I am asking for money.
2:58:13
I am asking for money specifically because that
2:58:15
is what I need.
2:58:16
If I needed a job, I would ask
2:58:18
for a job.
2:58:19
Say again.
2:58:20
If I needed a job, I would ask
2:58:22
for a job.
2:58:23
Y'all are so abusive and make yourselves
2:58:25
believe that you're being helpful when you are
2:58:28
just ignoring people and imposing your own will
2:58:31
onto them.
2:58:32
I am disabled and chronically ill and cannot
2:58:34
work.
2:58:34
If I needed a job, I would ask
2:58:36
for a job.
2:58:37
Okay.
2:58:38
And this was interesting.
2:58:40
Why?
2:58:41
Well, she's fat for starters.
2:58:43
Well, she can, she can do a call
2:58:45
center work.
2:58:47
No, she doesn't want to work.
2:58:49
Oh, and there's a bunch of people out
2:58:51
there like this.
2:58:52
There's a lot of tick tockers that I,
2:58:54
I'm not going to take a job.
2:58:55
Why should I be working?
2:58:56
I just want money.
2:58:58
Yeah.
2:58:58
And it's just beyond me and I can't
2:59:00
quite figure it out.
2:59:01
And they, and you, you can't have a
2:59:03
conversation with them because you don't understand anything.
2:59:05
You're an idiot.
2:59:06
And, uh, I just, I don't know.
2:59:09
I'm just kind of baffled by these people
2:59:12
out there in the wild that are doing
2:59:13
these things because I know she's sincere.
2:59:16
I don't see why you're baffled.
2:59:18
This has become ever since Patreon, this has
2:59:21
become a business model.
2:59:23
Just send me money, subscribe to my Patreon.
2:59:27
I'm doing fun stuff.
2:59:28
Send me money.
2:59:29
this is, but she's not doing fun stuff.
2:59:31
Well, she's just complaining.
2:59:33
Well, you're on deck.
2:59:38
That's right.
2:59:40
Put her on deck.
2:59:41
You put it, you would do an interview
2:59:42
with her, Darren.
2:59:43
And this lady is going to be beautiful.
2:59:45
Oh, that's a great show.
2:59:46
Well, along those lines, uh, maybe we could
2:59:50
make a Barbie doll for her.
2:59:52
At 28 years old.
2:59:53
Ellie Middleton says, this is the first time
2:59:56
she's seen a doll that reflects her day
2:59:58
-to-day experience as an autistic person.
3:00:01
She's looking off to the side slightly, which
3:00:02
is really nice.
3:00:03
Cause she's not, I basically never make eye
3:00:05
contact.
3:00:06
Developed with advice from the autistic self-advocacy
3:00:09
network, autistic Barbie wears noise canceling headphones to
3:00:13
protect her from loud noises.
3:00:15
Carries an AAC tablet, which some autistic people
3:00:18
use to communicate and a pink fidget spinner
3:00:21
that provides an outlet for stimming or self
3:00:23
-stimulatory behavior.
3:00:25
I think it's so nice to see those
3:00:26
parts of, I guess, myself that I may
3:00:29
be embarrassed of sometimes or not as proud
3:00:32
of as I should be.
3:00:33
But seeing those like as part of who
3:00:35
she is, I think was, was really nice
3:00:37
to see.
3:00:37
Autistic Barbie follows in the footsteps of blind
3:00:40
Barbie, Barbie with down syndrome and Barbie with
3:00:43
type one diabetes.
3:00:45
Holy crap.
3:00:45
I had no idea.
3:00:46
They expanded the line.
3:00:48
Yeah, that's fantastic.
3:00:50
We need podcaster, Bobby, Barbie.
3:00:53
That's what we need.
3:00:54
Podcaster, Barbie influenced Tik Tok or Barbie.
3:00:57
Yeah.
3:00:58
All of these.
3:00:59
And.
3:01:00
That's money.
3:01:01
What you just said is money in the
3:01:02
bank.
3:01:03
And obese.
3:01:04
Tik Tok or influencer Barbie.
3:01:06
Obese influence who doesn't want to work.
3:01:08
Barbie.
3:01:09
I'm telling you, Mattel, give us a call.
3:01:12
Final clip for me is, um, this may
3:01:16
actually lead into your Venezuela clip because I
3:01:18
believe this is about, uh, intelligence and secret
3:01:22
documents, uh, regarding the Venezuela op.
3:01:25
Members of the media expressing deep concern.
3:01:27
The FBI took the rare step of going
3:01:30
to the home of a Washington post reporter
3:01:32
and confiscating her phone and other electronic devices.
3:01:37
After early morning, FBI searched at the residence
3:01:39
of reporter, Hannah Nathanson, the post issuing an
3:01:42
urgent message to the staff, quote, this extraordinary
3:01:45
aggressive action is deeply concerning and raises profound
3:01:49
questions and concerned around the constitutional protection for
3:01:52
our work.
3:01:54
So none of this, it wasn't a big
3:01:56
deal.
3:01:56
I mean, when Obama did all this through
3:01:59
people in jail, he threw people in jail,
3:02:01
but that was okay.
3:02:03
But, but Trump's FBI, Trump's FBI, the FBI
3:02:07
looking for the goods on somebody that they
3:02:10
have targeted, not this reporter.
3:02:12
Uh, that's not right.
3:02:15
Okay.
3:02:15
I just want to get that straight.
3:02:17
After early morning, FBI searched at the residence
3:02:19
of reporter, Hannah Nathanson, the post issuing an
3:02:22
urgent message to the staff, quote, this extraordinary
3:02:25
aggressive action is deeply concerning and raises profound
3:02:29
questions and concerned around the constitutional protections for
3:02:33
our work.
3:02:34
But tonight, DOJ officials pushing back claiming that
3:02:37
the search was necessary because the reporter had
3:02:40
received a classified information from a government contractor
3:02:43
who was arrested last week for the unlawful
3:02:46
retention of national defense information.
3:02:49
Justice department official telling ABC news at the
3:02:52
time of his arrest, Aurelio Luis Perez Lugones
3:02:55
was communicating with the Washington post reporter on
3:02:58
his mobile device.
3:03:00
And in the chat, there was classified information.
3:03:04
Washington post leaders say they were told the
3:03:06
newspaper and the reporter were not targets of
3:03:08
the investigation.
3:03:10
But David, this action is so rare that
3:03:11
a number of media experts are calling it
3:03:14
an aggressive escalation and a threat to the
3:03:16
free press.
3:03:17
Now, my understanding was that this guy had
3:03:20
some information on the Venezuela op and that
3:03:24
that's maybe, and it tells me that you,
3:03:27
that everything you do on your phone is
3:03:30
pretty much public.
3:03:32
Right?
3:03:33
How do they know this?
3:03:34
How to know the chat, whatever chat they
3:03:36
were talking about, you use a signal, a
3:03:38
signal is supposed to be end to end
3:03:40
encrypted.
3:03:40
How is it possible?
3:03:42
Well, they, on the end to her end,
3:03:45
they can look at the chat.
3:03:47
Just look at her.
3:03:47
Just look at her screen.
3:03:48
You mean?
3:03:49
Yeah.
3:03:49
Yeah.
3:03:50
All right.
3:03:50
Do you have the Venezuela?
3:03:51
That was the idea.
3:03:53
The Venezuela clip.
3:03:54
I have just the update from yesterday.
3:03:56
President Trump is announcing that what he calls
3:03:58
a very bad leaker on Venezuela is now
3:04:00
in jail.
3:04:01
This is coming as the FBI searches the
3:04:03
home of a Washington post reporter as part
3:04:06
of an investigation into a Pentagon contractor who
3:04:08
allegedly leaked classified information that attorney general Pam
3:04:12
Bondi says post a risk to the nation's
3:04:14
national security.
3:04:16
President Trump is also recently giving a readout
3:04:19
of a call he had today with interim
3:04:22
president of Venezuela, Dulce Rodriguez.
3:04:24
He says that they discussed oil, minerals, trade
3:04:26
and national security and touts the partnership between
3:04:30
Venezuela and the U S and tomorrow, the
3:04:32
president's expected to meet with the Venezuelan opposition
3:04:35
leader, Maria Machado here at the white house.
3:04:37
Yeah.
3:04:39
The more I think about Machado who, by
3:04:42
the way, wasn't the candidate.
3:04:43
Someone pointed that out to us.
3:04:44
She, she was an organizer, but was not
3:04:46
the candidate.
3:04:47
It was some other dude.
3:04:48
You remember his name?
3:04:49
No, I don't.
3:04:51
Um, but she's obviously, uh, some kind of
3:04:56
shill.
3:04:58
Why else?
3:04:59
Why else would you get a peace prize?
3:05:02
But who else got a peace prize?
3:05:03
Let me think.
3:05:04
Uh, Obama Trump doesn't.
3:05:07
That's why he doesn't want her in there.
3:05:09
He'll, he'll meet with her to take the
3:05:11
peace prize from her cause she's going to
3:05:13
give it to him, but he doesn't want
3:05:15
her running it.
3:05:17
It makes no sense.
3:05:19
If you, if you win a peace prize,
3:05:21
you're in the system.
3:05:22
Wouldn't you say I'm not going to be
3:05:25
able, I can't think of any reason that
3:05:27
that's not absolutely true because Obama's thing was
3:05:32
a scam.
3:05:33
Yeah.
3:05:34
And so is this, he got a peace
3:05:35
price for giving a couple of, this is
3:05:37
before he became president, just before they inaugurated
3:05:40
him.
3:05:41
They, uh, he gave a bunch of speeches,
3:05:44
you know, for about a year and they're
3:05:46
all just, you know, pieces of speeches about
3:05:48
peace.
3:05:48
So there you get the prize just for
3:05:50
talking about talking to big game.
3:05:52
Then as soon as he got in office,
3:05:53
he started bombing people.
3:05:55
We got, it was a farce.
3:05:56
Yes.
3:05:57
So there's, and also the oil baron keeps,
3:06:00
he's very forceful with me.
3:06:02
He's like, nobody wants to do anything in
3:06:04
Venezuela unless the government pays them to.
3:06:08
There's, there's, it's very low reward for the
3:06:11
risk.
3:06:12
And the only, the only guys who will
3:06:14
make any money is actually who didn't, the
3:06:16
president, uh, say, we're gonna, which oil company
3:06:20
do you say they can go pound sand?
3:06:23
Was it Exxon?
3:06:25
Um, no, no, definitely not.
3:06:27
Exxon.
3:06:28
It wasn't Exxon.
3:06:28
Tell them to pound sand.
3:06:30
No, it was salt in my case.
3:06:32
Hold on a second.
3:06:33
It was, um, uh, well, those, who was
3:06:39
it now?
3:06:42
I can't remember.
3:06:43
What are the big three?
3:06:46
Well, Chevron, who's already there.
3:06:48
They're not being told to do anything other
3:06:50
than what they're doing.
3:06:51
Yeah.
3:06:51
They just, Chevron's got the best.
3:06:53
They got the foothold.
3:06:54
I thought it was.
3:06:55
And the other big boy is mobile.
3:06:57
And, uh, Exxon.
3:07:00
I thought it was Exxon mobile.
3:07:01
Exxon mobile.
3:07:02
So that doesn't count.
3:07:03
That's right.
3:07:03
They merged.
3:07:04
And so you have, uh, Phillips is the
3:07:07
big boy.
3:07:08
Hmm.
3:07:10
Well, uh, Tonico Phillips, I think it's, uh,
3:07:13
he, the president told someone they, the, uh,
3:07:16
because they were BP or these Europeans, maybe,
3:07:21
maybe it was BP.
3:07:23
Well, anyway, but, but they, no, it wasn't
3:07:25
BP.
3:07:25
It was one of the big refiners who
3:07:27
was already here in America already refining this
3:07:30
stuff.
3:07:31
And it's like, oh, those guys, aren't going
3:07:32
to get anything from us.
3:07:34
I don't know.
3:07:35
I wish I remembered.
3:07:36
I'm sick.
3:07:37
And I'm ill prepared.
3:07:38
I'm trying to, but I can't find it.
3:07:40
Uh, thank you to the multiple, um, military
3:07:44
Department of defense.
3:07:47
29 years of Department of Defense intelligence experience.
3:07:50
Yep.
3:07:50
We love people like you.
3:07:52
300 rounds a minute is nothing, apparently.
3:07:57
Delta Force operators could easily achieve 650 rounds
3:08:01
per minute, and the squad automatic weapons have
3:08:05
a cycling rate of 450 to 500 rounds
3:08:07
a minute, which I think kind of goes
3:08:09
to your point that that sonic weapon and
3:08:13
all that stuff, which some say would probably
3:08:14
be concussion, a flashbang without a flash, that
3:08:18
that is indeed just a bunch of propaganda.
3:08:23
Yeah, to scare them.
3:08:24
Yeah, and scare the drug networks.
3:08:28
Yeah, and I think the guy who made
3:08:30
all the commentary, the so-called guard, you
3:08:33
know, who said, oh, they did this, and
3:08:35
I don't want to experience that again.
3:08:36
I'm bleeding from my nose and my eyes,
3:08:38
and I'm throwing up.
3:08:39
I mean, it's just to scare these, you
3:08:41
know, dumb drug dealers.
3:08:43
Yeah.
3:08:44
It was Exxon, John.
3:08:46
President Trump...
3:08:47
Really?
3:08:47
Exxon?
3:08:48
Of all of them?
3:08:49
Yeah, it was Exxon.
3:08:50
I wonder what happened there.
3:08:52
But Exxon in Baton Rouge has a refinery
3:08:54
perfect for Venezuelan oil, so they're like, yeah,
3:08:57
bring it on.
3:08:58
Let someone else go do that.
3:08:59
We're not going to do it.
3:09:01
So, it's the weirdest thing.
3:09:03
What is oil at?
3:09:04
Oil is, like, at a very low rate
3:09:05
right now, very low price.
3:09:07
Yeah, that heavy stuff's still expensive.
3:09:10
Yeah.
3:09:11
That's the Brent.
3:09:12
If you look at the two prices, the
3:09:14
West Texas WTI number's always about 10 bucks
3:09:18
less a barrel than Brent, which is the
3:09:22
heavy, sour crap.
3:09:23
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off one at a time, above 50 and
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below 200.
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Yes, and we got a really long note,
3:09:58
which I'm not going to read, because we
3:09:59
don't have to, from Mason Strong, but Mason
3:10:04
did say, please consider this a Scott Adams
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donation.
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He wrote a beautiful eulogy, but it's a
3:10:10
little bit too long.
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In fact, it's way too long.
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He was very appreciative of what Scott Adams
3:10:16
did.
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It was $150, and Mason is in Cochran,
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Alberta, California.
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Dame Rita, Sparks, Nevada, $115.26 with an
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ITM.
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Thank you.
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Pete LaChance, 10641, and he says, God continue
3:10:33
to bless Crackpot and Buzzkill for the best
3:10:35
podcast in the universe.
3:10:36
And he wants to know, what did I
3:10:37
think of Chappelle crapping on Charlie Kirk in
3:10:40
his new special?
3:10:41
I have not watched that.
3:10:42
Have you watched?
3:10:43
I have not.
3:10:43
For some reason, I'm like, I don't desire
3:10:46
to watch Chappelle anymore.
3:10:48
Well, I heard about it like a week
3:10:51
or two ago, this new thing, and I
3:10:55
tried to find it on Netflix, and the
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order was out or something.
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I said, I just gave up looking for
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it, so I didn't see it either.
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Now, it's there.
3:11:03
Now, go look.
3:11:04
By the way, did I say Alberta, California?
3:11:06
Yeah, you did.
3:11:07
I was going to.
3:11:08
The problem is, I can't see what it
3:11:10
actually says on that line, because that note
3:11:13
is so long it blows out the spreadsheet,
3:11:15
because I'm going back saying, what is he
3:11:17
talking about?
3:11:18
Alberta, California?
3:11:19
Well, you know what?
3:11:20
Alberta, Canada?
3:11:21
Is that what he really means?
3:11:22
You know what?
3:11:22
Before you know it, it will be part
3:11:24
of California, so just stick around.
3:11:27
Sebastian Lambinon, Alicante, another Spanish supporter, 105.35.
3:11:34
And Sebastian says, grutjes uit zonig en corrupt
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Spanje, so clearly a Dutchie saying, greetings from
3:11:41
a sunny and corrupt Spain.
3:11:43
Boots on the ground.
3:11:44
Tammy Klein, Naples, Florida, 100, Jennifer Rine from
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Snoqualmie, Washington, 100, Douglas Rowdybush, Topeka, Kansas, 100,
3:11:57
Jonathan Ferris, 84.38, Kevin McLaughlin, there he
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is, 8.08. Every single episode, he comes
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in with a boob donation.
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Thank you very much.
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He is the Archduke of Luna and lover
3:12:08
of America and boobs.
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Christian Gruelich, Winterhaven, Florida, also a boob donation.
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And Martin Benes sends us 8.08, a
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boob donation from Cartersville, Georgia.
3:12:17
Mary O'Leary, Libertyville, Illinois, 75, Russell Coury
3:12:21
from St. Cloud, Florida, 71, Mike Wolven from,
3:12:27
what is this, Minnesota, Minnesota, don't do that,
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don't put your address in there, 68.57,
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Tom Ross from Silmar, California, 66.33, Steven
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Shoemaker, I think it's Shoemake, Zinnia, Ohio, 64.
3:12:48
The reason that happens, that's this check that
3:12:50
comes in and when Jay has to hand
3:12:53
at it, she naturally, occasionally, but not always,
3:12:56
puts what it should be, which is Shoemaker.
3:13:00
There you go.
3:13:01
Sir Don Francis with the small boobs.
3:13:04
He says love is lit.
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He is the Baron of Chandler.
3:13:07
Les Tarkowski, Kingman, Arizona, small boobs, 6.006,
3:13:10
Jimmy Beckner, West Point, California, 60, Nancy Murphy,
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57.21, Christopher Dechter, 5.678. We see
3:13:18
what you did there.
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Thank you.
3:13:20
Paul Erskine.
3:13:21
I think it's Erskine.
3:13:23
Erskine, Lake Forest Park, Washington, 55.77, Gisela
3:13:28
Wodzis, north, Wodzis, Gisela, I would say Gisela.
3:13:36
Maybe.
3:13:37
Maybe Gisela.
3:13:38
I think Gisela.
3:13:39
Yeah, Gisela.
3:13:40
Gisela, yes, you probably, yeah, I think it
3:13:42
would be Gisela.
3:13:43
North Royalton, Ohio, 55.55, happy birthday to
3:13:46
my amazing husband, Tom, celebrating the big 55
3:13:49
on January 17th.
3:13:51
He's on the birthday list.
3:13:52
He is my favorite human.
3:13:54
And she says, Tom, you are truly a
3:13:55
Noah agenda knight in my heart.
3:13:57
And I'm so grateful to do life with
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you.
3:13:59
Here's to another great year ahead.
3:14:01
And she thanks us for keeping them both
3:14:03
sane and endlessly entertained.
3:14:05
Sir Austin, Baron of the Puget Sound, double
3:14:08
nickels on the dime.
3:14:09
Charles Tracy from Hickory, North Carolina, 55.
3:14:11
Lake Manel, Luke Manel, Luke, Los Angeles, California,
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52.72, Joop Kaart, which means Joe Kaard
3:14:20
from Den Haag in the Netherlands.
3:14:22
And he says, hey, I'll read it in
3:14:24
Dutch, hoi papa, van harte gefeliciteerd met je
3:14:26
50e verjaardag, groetjes van Joop.
3:14:29
And that means happy birthday, dad, with your
3:14:31
50th birthday.
3:14:33
And he said, please read it in Dutch.
3:14:35
I did it.
3:14:36
And his dad's name is Marnix.
3:14:39
He turns 50 tomorrow, January 16th.
3:14:42
And he's on the list.
3:14:43
Sir Economic Hitman, Tomball, Texas, $50.01, Gary
3:14:47
Mao, Woodland Hills, California, 50.
3:14:50
These are all the 50s.
3:14:51
Dame Patricia Worthington, Miami, Florida, Brandon Savoie, Port
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Orchard, Washington, Kevin Dills, Huntersville, North Carolina.
3:14:58
These names are always on our donation list.
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Really appreciate it.
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Yeah, you're running a series of them.
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They're all, we know every one of them.
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Yes.
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And thank you.
3:15:07
So we love you so much for supporting
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And there's room for more people.
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Go read the newsletter.
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Kevin Dills, Huntersville, North Carolina, Diane Schwanebeck, Johnsburg,
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Louisville, Kentucky, Easy Landscapes, North Stonington, Connecticut, Stuart
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Fawcett, Liverpool.
3:15:29
Oh, the Mercy Side, Great Britain checking in.
3:15:32
Brian Bellin, $50.
3:15:34
And he says, with this, I'm a little
3:15:35
over the 1K mark.
3:15:36
Please knight me, Sir Brian of Ashbury.
3:15:39
No jingles.
3:15:40
He does have a request for Guinness and
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blue cheese burgers.
3:15:45
He says, people, I'm not a, I don't
3:15:49
like blue cheese on my burgers.
3:15:51
For some reason, this doesn't sound, I like
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blue cheese, but not on the burgers.
3:15:55
And he says, please support the greatest podcast
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in the universe, Zach Matthews, Caldwell, Idaho, Matt,
3:16:00
Megan Sanchez, Megan, Megan Sanchez from Loma Linda,
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California.
3:16:08
SFW funded Hulunar in Arnhem, the Netherlands.
3:16:13
And he sent me a note about the
3:16:15
new valve steam machine, you know, the gaming
3:16:19
console.
3:16:20
Yeah.
3:16:21
It's all built on Linux and no AI,
3:16:23
no mention of AI anywhere.
3:16:25
Good.
3:16:25
Well, go play those games.
3:16:27
We'll have $50 from someone on strike.
3:16:30
No note.
3:16:30
And Sir Alan Bean, Beaverton, Oregon, winds up
3:16:33
our $50 donors.
3:16:35
And we thank, of course, everybody who came
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in on under $50.
3:16:38
We do not read them for reasons of
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anonymity.
3:16:41
This is Baron.
3:16:42
We'll give Alan Bean Baron now.
3:16:44
Oh, he's Baron.
3:16:45
Baron Alan Bean.
3:16:45
Wow.
3:16:46
Put it in your, in your note, man.
3:16:48
Let us know.
3:16:49
He's another guy who's, wait, that comes in
3:16:51
as a check.
3:16:52
So the bank won't do it.
3:16:56
Um, what?
3:16:57
He's another guy has been donating.
3:16:58
He donated when we first asked for donations.
3:17:01
Was he, was he one of the first
3:17:02
ones?
3:17:03
He was one of the first.
3:17:04
He was lived in Oakland and he never
3:17:07
showed up to any meetings.
3:17:08
He lived in Oakland and he sent it
3:17:10
was one $50 check.
3:17:13
And he says, I'll send you one of
3:17:15
these every month is for as long as
3:17:17
you stay good.
3:17:18
Stay good.
3:17:19
As long as the show is good.
3:17:20
Well, there you go.
3:17:22
Giving us $50 a month for, I don't
3:17:25
know, 16 years.
3:17:28
Well, if it was from show one, then
3:17:30
it was longer.
3:17:30
No, it wasn't from show one.
3:17:31
It was when we first asked for money.
3:17:33
Oh, well, we, we started asking for money
3:17:35
sooner than two years in.
3:17:37
Well, you know, knowing you for sure.
3:17:41
Well, somebody has got to do it.
3:17:43
But the, but immediately he sent in a
3:17:46
check for 50 bucks and said, well, I'll
3:17:48
keep sending these checks in as long as
3:17:49
the show stays great.
3:17:50
Now, are they handwritten checks or bank?
3:17:52
Yes.
3:17:53
Yeah.
3:17:53
They're handwritten checks.
3:17:54
So it's not like he's just dead and
3:17:55
it's just on an automatic renewal.
3:17:59
No, no.
3:18:00
They said checks it with a signature on
3:18:02
him.
3:18:02
He could be AI.
3:18:03
I don't know.
3:18:04
Maybe not.
3:18:04
Auto pen.
3:18:05
Auto pen.
3:18:06
He's doing fine.
3:18:07
Thank you very much.
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In her very own melody.
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David Kekta says happy birthday to his awesome
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stepdaughter, Bella Green.
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She turns 24 on the 8th.
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Oh, she turned 24 on December 18th.
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Oh, you just in time, David.
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Sir Bing of the BMWs and Bulldogs.
3:19:01
Happy birthday to his delightful dad, Gary.
3:19:03
He turned 70 on January 9th.
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Happy birthday to Marnix.
3:19:07
Turning 50 on January 16th.
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So tomorrow.
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And Gisela Woods says happy birthday to our
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amazing husband, Tom.
3:19:16
He turns 55 on the 17th.
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And congratulations.
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We say happy birthday to everybody right here
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from the best podcast in the universe.
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And we congratulate Sir Fat Dad of the
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BMXicans with his upgrade, thanks to an additional
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$1,000 in support to the Noagenda show.
3:19:45
So today he becomes a baronet, and I'm
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sure we will see him reaching for the
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stars as he continues.
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Thank you so much, Sir Fat Dad of
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the BMXicans.
3:19:54
He actually sent me a picture once.
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He's not all that fat.
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He's pretty good looking for his BMX body.
3:20:02
Three nights.
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So bring out your blade.
3:20:04
We got a three night blade.
3:20:05
There it is.
3:20:06
Eric Younghoven.
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Troll McGooey.
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I got to read this note in a
3:20:12
minute.
3:20:12
And Brian Bellin.
3:20:13
All of you hop up on the podium
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here.
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All three of you, thanks to your support,
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You now are becoming knights of the Noagenda
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I am proud to pronounce the KD as
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And Sir Brian of Ashbury.
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For you gentlemen, we have Hookers and Blow,
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And of course, always here at the round
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Just give us your ring size and an
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This is from Troll Mech Guy.
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He was a layaway knight.
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So I already knighted him.
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And he realizes that he made his $33
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And by his accounts, he's a knight.
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He found the show through Megyn Kelly.
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I'm from New Zealand, Michigan near Holland, Michigan,
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which is the little Netherlands of the Great
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Lakes.
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So please knight me, Sir Eugene of the
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Tulip Stems.
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You have been knighted as such.
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At the round table, he wants bangers and
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mash and a side of Balkan Bray to
3:21:40
drink, a Miller Lite and a shot of
3:21:41
Fireball.
3:21:43
Can we get that over there for him?
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Okay, it's taken care of.
3:21:48
Thank you very much.
3:21:49
And he says we need a Scott jingle.
3:21:51
Well, if anyone comes up with them, we'll
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be happy to use it.
3:21:55
noagendadonations.com to become a knight, to become
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anything on the peerage ladder.
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And we just appreciate all the support.
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Yes, the meetups continue.
3:22:12
This is where you can meet children from
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other lands.
3:22:15
And you need to, from time to time,
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get out of the house, go say hi
3:22:18
to some people who will be in the
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same frame of mind as you are.
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These are the No Agenda meetups.
3:22:23
No Agenda producers meet everywhere around the world,
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including today at Charlotte's Thirsty Third Thursday monthly
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meetup, seven o'clock at Ed's Tavern in
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Charlotte, North Carolina.
3:22:34
On Saturday, the Fort Wayne Club 33, January
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2026, kick the new year off NA style.
3:22:42
We'll be starting at one o'clock, and
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that is at Shiggs in Pitt, barbecue and
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brew in Fort Wayne, Indiana.
3:22:51
And on Sunday, our next show day, the
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Get Sir Dre of the empty PayPal and
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broken brain out of the house meetup.
3:22:57
This is in the Netherlands, 4 p.m.
3:22:59
at Woke Wintertime, Gitmo Lowlands in De Heeren
3:23:03
van Bergendal.
3:23:04
Those guys always have a good party.
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There's a lot of people that show up
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and they will send us a meetup report.
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I'm looking forward to it.
3:23:10
Coming up on the 27th, 22nd, Sao Paulo,
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Brazil.
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Please send us a meetup report from Brazil.
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The 23rd, Fort Dodge, Iowa.
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25th, Indianapolis.
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29th, Alpharetta, Georgia.
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31st, Oakland, California.
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And the 31st as well, Wilmington, California.
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There are many more meetups for you to
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go and visit anywhere around the world.
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Hey, if it's not in your country, not
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in your town, no problem.
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You can set one up yourself.
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Go to noagentameetups.com to learn more about
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it.
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No Agenda Meetups, they are a connection that
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gives you protection.
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These people will be your first responders in
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emergency.
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Go to noagentameetups.com.
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Fun, easy, and always a party.
3:24:08
Before we get to John's tip of the
3:24:10
day and our end of show mixes, which
3:24:12
are not all AI, I warn you in
3:24:15
advance.
3:24:15
Some stuff you'll probably actually like.
3:24:18
We always like to select the end of
3:24:20
show ISO in this portion of the segment.
3:24:22
I have three, you have two.
3:24:23
Do you want to go first?
3:24:25
No, because I like to bump mine.
3:24:27
Okay, here's number one.
3:24:28
Like, I genuinely think it's hilarious.
3:24:32
Let me try this one.
3:24:35
You guys have had a most magnificent season.
3:24:39
Season.
3:24:40
Season.
3:24:40
This is, this is, this is the one.
3:24:41
These two guys are the best, period.
3:24:45
Come on.
3:24:46
Okay.
3:24:48
Okay, what?
3:24:50
You got it.
3:24:50
You're not even going to play yours?
3:24:52
I'm bumping mine.
3:24:52
All right.
3:24:53
Well, we move straight on to our last
3:24:54
segment, John's tip of the day.
3:25:07
All right.
3:25:09
This website, people should have on their list
3:25:12
of websites they go to routinely.
3:25:13
It's called Snap Files.
3:25:16
Snap Files?
3:25:17
Yeah, Snap Files.
3:25:19
This is a listing of the current, the
3:25:21
current, snapfiles.com, the current freeware and shareware
3:25:26
products that are out there, the latest versions.
3:25:29
Haven't you done this one before?
3:25:30
No, I don't think so.
3:25:34
I've done other stuff similar, but not this
3:25:36
one.
3:25:37
This is different.
3:25:37
All right.
3:25:38
This is basically keeps up with stuff.
3:25:40
So you get, for example, you have, although
3:25:42
this is a different list than it was
3:25:43
the last time I looked, because it keeps
3:25:45
changing daily.
3:25:47
You have like the latest VLN and some
3:25:50
of these other products that you should be
3:25:52
using for it.
3:25:53
And there's products you never think of using.
3:25:58
It's just a good website to get, they
3:26:00
have a freeware pick.
3:26:02
These are software systems that are free.
3:26:05
You don't have to pay money.
3:26:06
Free like AI free?
3:26:09
Free, well, no.
3:26:10
AI is a negative free.
3:26:12
Yeah.
3:26:13
Well, what does it have on here?
3:26:14
What does it have on it?
3:26:16
Freeware.
3:26:16
Shareware.
3:26:17
So they still list shareware?
3:26:19
That's still a thing?
3:26:20
Yeah, well, it is.
3:26:23
This site looks like it's from 1987.
3:26:26
Yeah, well, that's because it's probably made with
3:26:28
shareware.
3:26:30
Nobody said shareware is modern.
3:26:33
Shareware, that was great, wasn't it?
3:26:35
Shareware, shareware.
3:26:37
What do they have under shareware?
3:26:39
We have anti-spam tools.
3:26:40
Well, they still have Outlook add-ons.
3:26:42
Really?
3:26:44
Yeah.
3:26:46
Hey, it's for a real computer enthusiast.
3:26:48
And there's freeware.
3:26:50
Oh, man, my favorite freeware.
3:26:52
Open source, formerly known as freeware.
3:26:55
Wow.
3:26:56
Will this load on Windows?
3:26:58
Or do you need Windows 3.1 to
3:27:00
use?
3:27:02
No, it loads fine.
3:27:04
Okay.
3:27:05
There he is, your tip of the day.
3:27:07
Find them all at noagendafund.com, tipoftheday.net.
3:27:17
And sometimes add-on.
3:27:19
Created by Dana Brunetti.
3:27:21
If you stay tuned to the No Agenda
3:27:23
stream, noagendastream.com, you will hear up next
3:27:27
on the stream, who are these broadcasters?
3:27:31
I've not heard this, have I heard this
3:27:32
podcast?
3:27:34
Who are these podcasters?
3:27:35
No, who are these broadcasters?
3:27:37
I think it's the same guys.
3:27:38
Okay.
3:27:39
Nikki Glazer's Golden Globes and a crybaby takes
3:27:42
over CBS.
3:27:43
Oh, yeah, we didn't do anything on the
3:27:45
Globe.
3:27:45
You know, it's interesting to note that we've
3:27:48
stopped covering the award shows completely on this
3:27:51
show.
3:27:52
We used to mock them.
3:27:53
Well, because they had shills with a podcast
3:27:55
award and Snoop Dogg awarded it.
3:27:58
And as far as I'm concerned, if Joe
3:28:00
Rogan isn't nominated, it's bogus.
3:28:03
And I agree with that.
3:28:04
And us, of course.
3:28:05
It's totally bogus.
3:28:07
So sorry, M5M, we're not promoting you.
3:28:10
End of show mixes.
3:28:11
MVP, Bonald Crabtree and Baron Noah Vattenmacher, the
3:28:15
Sierra Botolith, all coming up.
3:28:17
And we will return on Sunday to bring
3:28:19
you at least three hours of the best
3:28:21
podcast in the universe and media deconstruction.
3:28:24
And I'm coming to you from the heart
3:28:25
of the Texas Hill Country here in Fredericksburg,
3:28:27
Texas in the morning, everybody.
3:28:29
I'm Adam Currie.
3:28:30
And from Northern Silicon Valley, where I remain,
3:28:32
I'm John C.
3:28:33
Dvorak.
3:28:33
We'll see you here on Sunday.
3:28:35
Please remember us, support the show at noagendadonation
3:28:38
.com.
3:28:39
Value for value, any amount, any time, any
3:28:42
time you want to.
3:28:44
Until then, adios, mofos, hui hui, and such.
3:29:09
And I'm adding one more.
3:29:10
We're bringing all the true coins right to
3:29:12
the shore.
3:29:13
The frozen north is open for the ultimate
3:29:15
trade.
3:29:16
The biggest real estate deal that has ever
3:29:18
been made.
3:29:19
Queen Lil Marco's busy on the digital screen,
3:29:21
turning every tundra into something pristine.
3:29:24
We sent a gazillion million tokens through the
3:29:26
cold Arctic air to buy a massive island
3:29:28
with the landlord's flair.
3:29:30
It's the 50-foot estate, and it's shining
3:29:32
so bright.
3:29:33
Paid in full with the crypto in the
3:29:34
middle of the night.
3:29:35
The U.S. is getting bigger as the
3:29:37
glaciers all shine.
3:29:38
We're the digital currency that is truly divine.
3:30:01
Welcome to the union.
3:30:45
Well, that was something we read about in
3:30:47
our newspapers that was always happening in other
3:30:50
countries.
3:30:51
Perhaps the people in other countries had just
3:30:53
reasons to riot against their governments.
3:30:55
After all, many of the nations of the
3:30:58
world are dictatorships in one form or another.
3:31:01
What business was it of ours anyway?
3:31:03
Newsworthy, perhaps, but it could never happen here.
3:31:08
Then, in the summer of 1964, widespread rioting
3:31:12
and looting suddenly broke out in Harlem, in
3:31:15
Rochester, in Newark, in Jersey City, in Philadelphia,
3:31:22
Cleveland, and Chicago.
3:31:25
All within a few days of each other.
3:31:28
It was as though an unseen hand had
3:31:30
given the signal.
3:31:33
Then, on August 18, 1965, guns replaced nightsticks
3:31:37
in the hands of law enforcement officers as
3:31:40
the Watts area of Los Angeles literally burst
3:31:43
into a cauldron of insurrection.
3:31:45
Thousands of rioters roamed the streets both night
3:31:48
and day, smashing and looting, and setting the
3:31:50
torch to over 50 square miles of the
3:31:52
city.
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Hidden snipers held police and firefighters at bay
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as fires raged unabated.
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At least 35 Americans died in the violence
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and gunfire.
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The sheer magnitude of this monstrous madness drained
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the abilities of the civil authorities, and the
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California National Guard was sent to Watts with
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orders to quell the violence with brute force
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if necessary.
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The spectacle of American soldiers shooting it up
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with American civilians was even more shocking than
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the rioting itself.
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The nation was stunned and horrified, but no
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smugglers now.
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