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January 18th • 3h 9m

1835: Greenland Gambit

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I'd be on your podcast, always on your
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pod, had you, that was great.
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Yeah, we agree.
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Oh yeah, I totally agree.
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Adam Currie, John C.
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Dvorak.
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It's Sunday, January 18th, 2026, this year award
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-winning GiveOnNation media assassination episode 1835.
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This is no agenda.
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It's WEF Week!
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And we're broadcasting live from the heart of
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the Texas Hill Country here in FEMA region
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number six.
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Good morning, everybody.
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I'm Adam Currie.
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Yeah, from Northern Silicon Valley, where the plot
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thickens.
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I'm John C.
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Dvorak.
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Oh man, what plot could that be?
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There's so many plots.
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I don't know what you would know.
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All I know is I've got Davos fever.
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This is it, the Super Bowl.
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Davos fever, WEF Week is coming.
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I'm always excited about Davos.
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Yeah, he'll be talking on the 21st and
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he's going to say nothing.
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Oh, he's going to say lots of stuff.
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First of all, he's going to take their
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bicycles away.
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I think that's possible.
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I don't think they use bicycles in Davos.
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Yeah, well, we'll see if he says nothing.
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Obviously, he's going to say something because his
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mouth will be moving and words will be
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coming out.
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And I remember the last time he spoke
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at Davos, he said globalism is not the
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way, nationalism is the way.
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That was kind of a, that was a
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statement back in the day.
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I think he's just going to talk about
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Greenland.
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We'll see.
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We'll see.
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He's taking the full crew, so.
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Yeah, they all want to go skiing.
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Ah, you are always so upbeat about what's
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happening in the world.
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What's his name, your buddy?
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The second, the Ege, he's a big skier.
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Of course he is.
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I can, I'll bet he looks good on
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the slopes too.
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You know what I mean?
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He's got, he probably, he tans real quick.
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You know, one of those guys.
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One of those guys, like, hey boys, time
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for some apres ski.
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Are you ready?
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I, you know, I think the skiing actually
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isn't exactly right in the village.
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I think they have to get on a
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bus to go skiing in Davos.
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I don't think you walk out.
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It's not like Aspen.
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I've known at least two people that have
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been to Davos and the whole thing's about
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the skiing.
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Right, but is it like Aspen where you
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walk right out?
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No, no, it's not like, no, it's not
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like you don't step out of your hotel
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and jump on a slope, no.
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Well, just so you know, it's my beat.
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I'm excited.
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I love it when CNBC is on the
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scene and they're sitting there out on the
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cold.
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For what reason?
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I'll never understand.
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It's like, let's make sure everybody knows we're
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here in Davos.
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And on a balcony.
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I know why.
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Okay.
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Skiing.
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No, why do they have, their set is
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always outside.
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Yeah, it is, yeah.
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So they can get used to the skiing
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temperatures.
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I don't know.
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It's idiotic.
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You're right.
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I love it.
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And there's always someone says something dumb, like
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Bill Gates always says something stupid.
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No, I find it to be interesting because
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they're all kind of loosened up.
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You know, you're right.
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They're all like, oh, it's great here.
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You know, we got to sit through this
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stupid conference, but then we'll go skiing.
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And at night, well, we know what happens
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there.
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We know.
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We haven't gotten a report yet.
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No mainstream media has done a report on
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the prostitutes of Davos.
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Usually they do that.
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I don't remember too many reports on the
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prostitutes.
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I know about them.
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They ship them in because there's not, there's
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no prostitutes in Davos.
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Well, because who, what the hell are they
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going to do there?
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Yeah, exactly.
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Well, here's a very, I'm following Davos radio,
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which for some reason is on YouTube, but
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okay, Davos radio, and they have a little
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set.
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And this is the, this is very short,
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just an intro.
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This is the, so, you know, they kicked
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out Klaus Schwab.
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He's gone, which is kind of sad because
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he set the tone and it made you
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feel groovy.
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Yeah, you know who took over, right?
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Well, I know who the managing director is
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who took over.
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Larry Fink of BlackRock.
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Well, Larry Fink, so he's part of it,
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but he's not, he's not the co-chair.
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Yes, but he's not the managing director.
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By the way, I'm getting a lot of
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slap back.
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You are?
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Can you turn your speakers down?
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I don't think that's me.
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Let me see.
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Yes, I'm hearing myself.
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Hey, John.
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You're hearing yourself?
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Well, maybe, well, if you turn your speakers
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down, you won't hear yourself through the speakers.
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There's, well, then I won't hear anything.
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You could always consider headphones.
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Well, no, I'd be hearing it.
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What would that make a difference?
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I'd still hear myself.
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Well, no one's hearing it double here.
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It sounds good.
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Okay, well, let's slide.
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I don't, I'm trying, nothing's, I'm sorry.
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I didn't change anything.
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Nothing's changed.
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There you go.
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So here is the forum managing director, Sadia
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Zahid, who's young woman.
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She looks like she's got what it takes
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to entertain a bunch of boring people.
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And they, of course, released their global risk
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report because that's what it's all about.
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And here is her talking about the headlines
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of what's in the global risk report.
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What is the main headline this year?
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So we find that, of course, in the
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very short term, and this is probably no
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surprise to our audience, but in the very
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short term, geoeconomic confrontation and state-based armed
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conflict are the two things that readers are
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extremely worried about in 2026.
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And then you look two years out and
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geoeconomic confrontation actually stays at the very top,
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but it's followed closely by misinformation and then
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polarization.
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And then in the longer term, in that
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10-year outlook, that is where the environmental
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risks are again at the very top, extreme
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weather, biodiversity loss and critical changes to earth
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systems.
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But following pretty closely behind is again misinformation
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and one of the largest rises, which is
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around the potential adverse outcomes of AI technology.
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They seem to be very worried about misinformation
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from AI technologies.
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Wow, that is me.
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I don't know why that happened.
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No, I know what happened.
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I know what's going on.
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I took my hearing aids out and so
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I have the headphones cranked up.
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You're probably hearing yourself through my headphones.
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Oh, why'd you take the hearing aids out?
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Well, it doesn't work very well with headphones.
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Yeah.
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And I tried- Why don't you work
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on open air?
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Well, how would that be any better?
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I can't hear.
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With the hearing aids.
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No, no, no.
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I've been accustomed to this for 45 years.
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There's no way I can use open air.
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Like I'm on AM radio in the 50s.
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No.
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This is WABC, I cover you all ships
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and sea.
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I don't need headphones.
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No, I don't think so.
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I'm a modern radio guy.
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Modern radio guy, cans.
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Cans, man.
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Why don't you use the Apple Buds?
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Well, unfortunately, there's this thing called AuraCast.
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I think we talked about it.
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You can broadcast it to the hearing aids.
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Yes, that's right.
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And it works really well.
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I got the little adapter, plugged it into
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my roadcaster.
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But then my voice, just because of all
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the processing, is about, you know, three, I'd
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say like 30 milliseconds behind.
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Oh, really?
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Yeah.
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Yes.
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What?
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Wow.
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So if you're listening to TV.
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That's no good.
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Well, no, if you're listening to TV or
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something, it's great because you won't see that
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difference with people's mouths moving.
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But when you're speaking, it's coming back three
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tenths of a second later.
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Then you start to talk like this, talk
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like this.
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Anyway, I will be reporting on everything from
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the WEF.
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It's WEF week.
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WEF week, and I'm excited.
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And I think something will come out of
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this.
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Maybe Trump is just going to negotiate the
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terms of surrender.
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I doubt it.
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You're so cynical.
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I have great hope in terms of...
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Surrender what?
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To who?
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To us.
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Just surrender.
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Give us Greenland.
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Shut up.
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Go away.
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We're in charge.
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Canada.
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You're the next Ukraine.
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I think maybe something like that.
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Hey, have you been gone back to smoking
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dope?
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No, no.
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What's he going to say?
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He's not going to do anything like that.
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Okay, we understand what your opinion is.
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What is my opinion?
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He's going to say nothing.
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You said it at the beginning.
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Yeah, he's going to say, well, he's going
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to talk about Greenland a lot.
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Okay, well, I am excited.
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I think Greenland is fabulous.
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I love the step up that we've done.
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I think it's great.
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I'd like to know.
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I have a clip.
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Okay.
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I'd like to ask you a question about
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this.
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All right.
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This is the Greenland clip.
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This is...
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Murkowski?
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Yeah.
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Can I guess the question or should I
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ask the question after the clip?
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I would play the clip and then I
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want you to guess.
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You will guess it.
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This is bothersome.
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That's why the fact that you brought it
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up, you know what the question is.
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I already know because I have a similar
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clip.
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President Trump stepped up his threats about taking
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over Greenland today, suggesting that he may place
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tariffs on countries that don't support U.S.
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control of the territory.
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Mr. Trump made the comments during an event
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at the White House today where he repeated
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his claim that the U.S. needs Greenland
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for national security reasons.
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It comes as a bipartisan delegation of U
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.S. lawmakers were in Copenhagen today.
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They met with the leaders of Denmark and
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Greenland in an effort to, as they put
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it, lower the temperature.
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Alaska Republican Lisa Murkowski told reporters the majority
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of Americans disagree with President Trump.
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Greenland needs to be viewed as our ally,
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not as an asset.
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When you ask the American people whether or
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not they think it is a good idea
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for the United States to acquire Greenland, the
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vast majority, some 75 percent, will say, we
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do not think that that is a good
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idea.
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Murkowski also told reporters there are, quote, tools
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at our disposal for Congress to rein in
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President Trump's ambitions towards Greenland, though he himself
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has said that anything less than U.S.
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control is unacceptable.
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Okay, well, you didn't have exactly the same
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clip as I had.
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My clip, which is a little shorter and
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I'll play in a moment, the question I
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would have asked is, why are our representatives
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going to Greenland?
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Because that was the context of this interview.
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They're going to Denmark, I think, and then
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to Greenland.
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They're leaving D.C. to go and visit.
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That would be my question.
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No, it's not.
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You missed it.
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Isn't this a violation of the Logan Act?
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They made a big fuss about everything that
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was going on with Flynn and everybody else
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about the Logan Act, the Logan Act.
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This is a violation of the Logan Act.
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This is non-representatives of the U.S.
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government.
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They're not representing the Trump administration doing foreign
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affairs stuff.
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This is the Logan Act violation.
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They should be all thrown in jail.
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You might have to help us again with
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exactly what the Logan Act is.
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The Logan Act was passed in the late
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1700s, and it says if you're not a
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representative of this government, you cannot do negotiations
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with foreign countries on your own as an
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independent person or group or citizen.
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Are they doing negotiations?
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I mean, I think the text matters.
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They're over there.
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What are they doing?
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They're over in Denmark talking to who?
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What, the public?
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They're going around, hey, buddy, what do you
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think about this?
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No, they're having brown cheese.
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They're having fondue.
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They're doing that, too.
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But this is a clear violation of the
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Logan Act.
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This is a clear violation of the Logan
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Act, and they should all be indicted.
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They should be arrested and then pulled back
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in irons.
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We should bring them back.
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It's about time.
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No, no, well, maybe James Comer can do
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something about it.
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Well, here's James Comer.
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Oh, no, I'm sorry, Comer.
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I have Coons.
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Let me just see the Logan Act.
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They made a big, the Democrats make a
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big fuss about the Logan Act.
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Oh, you mean the news media doesn't make
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a fuss of it?
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No one makes a fuss of it when
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it's about Trump?
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Well, surprise.
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OK, the Logan Act, which was a response,
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this is interesting, I didn't know it was
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a response to an effort by a Philadelphia
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Quaker named George Logan to try and negotiate
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directly with the French government.
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Yeah.
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OK, so the law criminalizes the negotiation of
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a dispute between the United States and a
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foreign government by an unauthorized American citizen.
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OK, so unauthorized, I presume, would mean that
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you have to be authorized by the president.
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Yeah, you have to be authorized by the
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president or secretary of state.
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Well, we should throw her in jail, along
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with Senator Coons, who was there.
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And part of the point of this trip
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is to have a bipartisan group of members
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of Congress listen.
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My point is, why are members of Congress
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who represent states doing this?
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That's my point, too.
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This is a violation of the Logan Act.
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It's a violation of their job description.
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Listen respectfully to our friends, our trusted allies
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and partners here in Denmark and from Greenland,
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and to go back to the United States
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and share those perspectives so that we can
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lower the temperature.
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When you ask the American people whether or
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not they think it is a good idea
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for the United States to acquire Greenland, the
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vast majority will say we do not think
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that that is a good idea.
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Really, what poll is that?
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This senator from Alaska does not think it
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is a good idea.
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Well, good for you, lady.
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Oh, you're stepping on the cliff.
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Hold on.
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This meeting comes, as President Trump said at
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an event in D.C. today, that he
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was considering using tariffs to pressure countries to
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accept the U.S. take over the semi
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-autonomous Danish territory.
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Now, Trump argues Greenland is vital to U
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.S. security because of its location and supply
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of minerals.
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He has not ruled out the use of
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force to take it.
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European nations- I always love how they
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throw in minerals.
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It's minerals.
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It's gold.
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It's oil.
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All the things it's not.
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Trump argues Greenland is vital- Right, exactly.
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And I don't think I've heard Trump say
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specifically, oh, it's minerals, as this report states.
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No, you can't get those minerals out of
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there unless you bomb the place and melt
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the ice.
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It's too cold.
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Trump argues Greenland is vital to U.S.
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security because of its location and supply of
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minerals.
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He has not ruled out the use of
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force to take it.
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European nations this week sent small numbers of
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military personnel to the island at the request
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of Denmark, a NATO ally.
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A NATO ally.
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So the Europeans are all in a tizzy
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because of the tariffs.
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And the president did promise.
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He said, hey, you know, we can do
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this the easy way or the hard way.
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And I believe this 10 percent ratcheting to
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25 to, I guess, the sky is the
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limit, is part of the hard way.
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Here's a report from our European friends.
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Summoned to Brussels to discuss it.
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And I'm always surprised that Euronews keeps using
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an African guy to do their voiceovers.
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I'm just baffled by it.
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Summoned to Brussels to discuss an escalating.
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So so the NHK News, when they do
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their weather report.
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The NHK out of Japan, out of Tokyo,
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they use a black guy as the weatherman.
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Is this is this a black guys are
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even in Japan.
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Astrid should tell us.
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Summoned to Brussels to discuss an escalating crisis.
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EU ambassadors will have an emergency meeting Sunday.
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They'll look for a united response to Donald
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Trump's threat to impose escalating tariffs on eight
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European countries until the purchase of Greenland is
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completed.
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10 percent at the beginning of February and
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then 25 percent by summer.
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A response from European Commission President Ursula von
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der Leyen was swift on social media.
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Tariffs would undermine transatlantic relations and risk a
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dangerous downward spiral.
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Europe will remain united, coordinated and committed to
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upholding its sovereignty.
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President Macron had only just sent a symbolic
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detachment of French troops to conduct exercises with
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Danish soldiers charged with defending Greenland and was
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quick to link the situation to wider European
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security concerns.
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No intimidation, no threat will influence us, neither
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in Ukraine nor in Greenland or anywhere else
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in the world where we are confronted with
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such situations.
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Tariff threats are unacceptable and have no place
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in this context.
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Unacceptable, I tell you.
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Well, they have no, all they have is
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unacceptable.
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This is not, this is not right.
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This is not how you're supposed to deal
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with us.
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I didn't clip her, but.
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But everybody knows that the United States has
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had bases in Greenland since World War II.
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Yes.
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So we're there already.
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Yes.
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Up in the top part.
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Yes.
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Well, they're making it sound like we're invading
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the place.
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We've already been there.
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Well, because the president said he alluded as
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a troll, like, well, you know, I could
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just go there and take it by force.
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You know, that's.
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Yeah, he's not going to do that.
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No, of course not.
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But that's one day, one day the rest
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of the political landscape will figure out his
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algo and stop responding that way.
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But we did get our scheme.
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Well, that's wishful thinking.
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You're right.
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Are you crazy?
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No, they won't.
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They're never going to figure.
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It's so easy to figure out.
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But they will now.
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So our our skier, we need a name.
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Scott, the Shusher Besant.
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Scott, the Shusher.
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I like Shusher.
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Shusher.
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Yeah.
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So Scott was on with Manhans Welker this
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morning.
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And of course, the discussion turned to Greenland.
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President Trump threatening to impose steep tariffs against
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some of America's closest European and NATO allies.
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The leaders of Denmark and Greenland say bluntly
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Greenland is not for sale.
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What makes President Trump think it is?
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Kristen, if we look for you.
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Wait, wait.
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The first answer should have been, as everybody
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knows this, everything is for sale.
19:21
Is this not something we always say in
19:23
business?
19:24
Everything is for sale at the right price.
19:29
I wonder why he didn't say that.
19:30
Yeah, he's green.
19:31
He's green.
19:32
He's still green around the gills.
19:34
What makes President Trump think it is?
19:36
Kristen, if we look for years, for for
19:40
over a century, American presidents have wanted to
19:43
acquire Greenland.
19:44
And what we can see is the Greenland
19:46
is the essential to the US national security.
19:50
We're building the Golden Dome, the missile system.
19:54
And look, President Trump is looking is being
19:56
strategic.
19:57
He's looking beyond this year.
19:59
He's looking beyond next year to what could
20:01
happen for a battle in the Arctic.
20:04
We are not going to outsource our national
20:07
security.
20:08
We are not going to outsource our hemispheric
20:10
security to other countries.
20:13
In Trump 1.0, President Trump told the
20:16
Europeans, do not do not build Nord Stream
20:19
2.
20:19
Do not rely on Russian oil.
20:21
And guess what, Kristen?
20:22
Guess what is funding Russia's efforts against Ukraine?
20:26
European purchases of Russian oil.
20:29
So America has to be in control here.
20:33
I like the addition of the Golden Dome
20:35
as another because it a it's not true,
20:39
probably.
20:41
B, yeah, right.
20:44
Whatever it does.
20:45
It does make all the military industrial complex
20:48
companies go, oh, hold on a second.
20:51
I got to talk to my counterparts in
20:53
Brussels about this.
20:55
Because, you know, that's how it works.
20:57
Hey, let's go out to dinner.
21:00
Yeah.
21:00
Want some caviar?
21:02
I got to talk about Greenland with you
21:04
because, you know, we could build some fabulous
21:06
stuff for the Golden Dome.
21:07
You'll benefit.
21:08
You'll benefit.
21:10
But the fight for the Arctic, it's real,
21:13
man.
21:13
Is this a negotiating tactic, Mr. Secretary, or
21:17
is President Trump serious about annexing Greenland?
21:21
President Trump strongly believes that we cannot outsource
21:25
our security because, Kristen, let me tell you
21:27
what will happen.
21:28
And it might not be next year.
21:30
Might not be in five years.
21:31
But down the road, this fight for the
21:33
Arctic is real.
21:35
We would keep our NATO.
21:37
Did he say Israel?
21:39
Sounded like he said Israel.
21:41
But down the road, this fight for the
21:43
Arctic is real.
21:44
We would keep our NATO.
21:46
The Mossad is all right.
21:52
BB's making him do it.
21:53
It's clear.
21:54
Down the road, this fight for the Arctic
21:56
is real.
21:57
We would keep our NATO code.
22:00
Our NATO guarantees.
22:02
And if there were an attack on Greenland
22:04
from Russia, from some other area, we would
22:09
get dragged in.
22:10
So better now.
22:11
Peace through strength.
22:13
Make it part of the United States.
22:14
And there will not be a conflict because
22:17
the United States right now, we are the
22:19
hottest country in the world.
22:21
We are the strongest country in the world.
22:23
Europeans project weakness.
22:24
The U.S. projects strength.
22:26
Do you think that he comes down the
22:27
slope like, hey, I'm Scott Besson, Treasury Secretary
22:32
of the hottest country in the world.
22:34
What's your name, son?
22:38
OK, this is good.
22:40
There's only two more.
22:41
But I just I just love I'm a
22:43
big Besson fan.
22:44
I can't help myself.
22:45
Senior Democrats say there are no pressing threats
22:48
on Greenland security from Russia or China.
22:50
The Danish foreign minister says there hasn't been
22:53
a Chinese warship in Greenland for a decade.
22:56
What evidence do you have that this is
22:58
a pressing threat?
22:59
There is no evidence.
23:01
First of all, Kristen, we have asymmetric information.
23:04
And again, President Trump.
23:06
Wow.
23:08
What does that mean?
23:09
Well, first of all, we have asymmetric information.
23:12
I'm just going to use that.
23:13
That's a that is a kind of a
23:17
hybrid term that, again, as we've both pointed
23:20
out, that this administration is filled with these
23:23
Silicon Valley a-holes who are coming up
23:27
with these, you know, these terms, new creative
23:31
ways of saying nothing.
23:33
And I think that's one of them.
23:35
I think it's something you can say if
23:37
you have a disagreement with your spouse.
23:40
Listen, honey, we have asymmetric information here.
23:43
OK.
23:47
Everybody, try that out.
23:48
Let me know how it goes.
23:50
There hasn't been a Chinese warship in Greenland
23:52
for a decade.
23:53
What evidence do you have that this is
23:56
a pressing threat?
23:57
Well, first of all, Kristen, we have asymmetric
23:59
information.
24:00
And again, President Trump is being strategic.
24:03
Hold on a second.
24:05
Why didn't she stop him in his tracks?
24:07
What is wrong with her?
24:08
You're acting like Kristen Welker is smart.
24:12
She's a DEI hire.
24:14
Somebody should you when when somebody says that
24:17
to you in an interview like that, you
24:19
stop him right there and ask him to
24:22
specifically say what they mean.
24:24
What do you mean by that?
24:26
What do you mean by asymmetric information?
24:30
It's great.
24:31
What do you mean specifically?
24:33
What do you mean?
24:34
You mean you getting lopsided information, something that's
24:37
got a bulge that we don't get or
24:40
the general public doesn't hear is is a
24:43
different form of information.
24:45
What do you mean?
24:46
It makes no sense.
24:47
That word.
24:48
Well, I hate to disappoint you.
24:49
She did not say that.
24:51
This is a pressing threat.
24:52
Well, first of all, Kristen, we have asymmetric
24:54
information.
24:55
And again, President Trump is being strategic here.
24:58
They what what evidence was there that the
25:03
Russians were going into Crimea?
25:04
What evidence was it?
25:06
Well, actually, there was a lot of evidence
25:07
that the Russians were.
25:09
Wait, wait.
25:10
He corrects himself.
25:12
And you can hear him stuttering because you
25:14
can hear he has an interesting brain.
25:17
And and his mouth sometimes goes a little
25:19
too fast and his brain stops his mouth.
25:22
I don't know.
25:22
We had a lot of information.
25:24
But then he's going to throw Biden under
25:25
the bus as he should.
25:28
What what evidence was there that the Russians
25:31
were going into Crimea?
25:32
What evidence was it?
25:34
Well, actually, there was a lot of evidence
25:35
that the Russians were going to go into
25:37
Ukraine.
25:38
Biden said, well, just take a little bit
25:40
of it.
25:40
But what we know is that the US,
25:44
the Greenland can only be defended if it
25:46
is part of the US and it will
25:48
not need to be defended if it is
25:50
part of the US.
25:51
The president is trying to avoid a conflict.
25:54
You bring up Crimea.
25:56
The president, as far as I have heard,
25:58
has not taken military force off the table.
26:01
If the United States were to take Greenland
26:03
by force, how would that be different than
26:06
Russia's annexation of Crimea?
26:09
Look, I believe that the Europeans will understand
26:12
that this is best for Greenland, best for
26:14
Europe and best for the United States.
26:17
Military action is still on the table.
26:20
I haven't spoken with the president on that.
26:23
And again, I believe that the Europeans will
26:26
understand that the best outcome is for the
26:30
US to maintain or receive control of Greenland.
26:34
Once we tighten the screws a little bit
26:36
more, I think they'll start to come around.
26:39
They will understand.
26:41
This guy, he's kind of frightening.
26:45
You know, he's one of those.
26:48
Well, there's a lot of illogic in his
26:50
approach.
26:51
He does a pretty good job of it.
26:53
He, for example, says that, you know, the
26:55
place needs the US to ownership for protection,
27:01
when in fact, it's as part of NATO,
27:03
it's protected by Section 5, Article 5, whatever
27:06
it is.
27:08
So that we're supposed to protect it anyway.
27:11
So that's bullcrap.
27:14
There's, you know, there may be something we're
27:17
completely under.
27:18
I mean, there is.
27:19
And I'm an idiot for not, I don't
27:21
know why I didn't clip it.
27:22
I'm sure it's not on the clip list
27:23
about the guy who says there's a flying
27:26
saucer there.
27:27
That's the real reason that we're won.
27:29
What?
27:32
Yeah, this was the second half of the
27:34
show.
27:34
You really, I mean, you've let the show
27:36
down by not.
27:37
I know, I feel terrible.
27:39
I have not heard this show.
27:40
You win the show.
27:42
I have not heard this one and I'm
27:43
upset now.
27:45
Yeah, there's a flying saucer there, which is
27:47
a weather modification saucer that they've did that
27:51
is being uncovered as the ice melts.
27:54
And it's huge.
27:54
It's a monster.
27:55
It's like the size of Manhattan.
27:56
Wow.
27:58
And it's been revealing itself.
28:00
And now we have to take ice now
28:01
so we can go get because it's still
28:03
running.
28:03
And it's still, it's still got people in
28:06
there monitoring what's going on here.
28:08
Can you imagine?
28:09
It's not a, it's not a slouch of
28:10
an old beat up thing.
28:12
It's, it's been there.
28:13
Well, well, Kristen, you have to understand when
28:16
the ice melts and.
28:18
That may be the asymmetric thing he's talking
28:20
about.
28:20
Yes, we have asymmetric information, Kristen.
28:24
When the ice melts and the saucer is
28:27
revealed, we don't want the Russians to get
28:30
that.
28:30
Now, do we now?
28:32
That's not how the interview ended, unfortunately.
28:34
OK, let's talk about being strategic.
28:37
The United States has a base in Greenland.
28:39
I've been talking to lawmakers on Capitol Hill.
28:42
Why?
28:42
Denmark has given the United States green light
28:46
to beef up its security as much as
28:49
is needed in Greenland.
28:50
Why not take that route?
28:52
Why is it necessary to take over and
28:55
annex all of Greenland?
28:56
Something that 85 percent of people living in
28:59
Greenland oppose.
29:01
Who said that?
29:03
What is she making this up?
29:05
Yeah, they're doing all kinds of, you know,
29:09
Eskimo on the on the ice as opposed
29:11
to man on the street.
29:13
And you get some dude who's like, oh,
29:15
he's wearing a, you know, don't don't make
29:18
Greenland great again.
29:20
Red hats.
29:21
I mean, this.
29:24
Well, let's stop for a second with these
29:27
clips and let me ask you something.
29:30
What is the why is anybody objecting to
29:34
us taking over Greenland?
29:37
Well, when you say anybody, do you mean
29:40
the people in the EU?
29:42
And while I mean, the Russians and the
29:44
Chinese got nothing to do with this, only
29:45
the EU and Denmark.
29:48
And they're they don't they're not doing anything.
29:50
This is like it's in our hemisphere.
29:53
We were reinstituting the Monroe Doctrine, the form
29:58
of the Don Roe Doctrine.
30:00
And we want Greenland.
30:01
We've wanted it before.
30:02
And they just want to hold on to
30:04
it for dear life.
30:05
For what purpose?
30:06
OK, I'm just guessing.
30:08
But my thoughts are twofold.
30:11
And I do want to play this.
30:12
Finish this clip.
30:14
Twofold.
30:14
One is the Europeans still want to get
30:18
illegal or sanctioned oil.
30:21
And it comes through the G.I. U
30:22
.K. gap.
30:24
And the less people know about that, the
30:26
better.
30:28
And the second one, I think it has
30:29
everything to do with Canada is the Canada
30:32
is a problem.
30:34
They are not nothing about the Canadians, but
30:36
I'm talking about Carney and the crown.
30:39
You know, the the the the prince, the
30:43
king, he went to visit Canada.
30:45
Everyone like kissed his feet.
30:47
So I guess he still owns it, you
30:50
know, or the whatever.
30:51
However, that works in that system.
30:52
Very fuzzy.
30:54
Carney.
30:55
And I know you have clips on it.
30:56
We'll get to in a second.
30:58
You know, he's he's in China.
30:59
So how it's a it's a it's a
31:02
clean shot.
31:04
You know, these are great shipping routes.
31:05
We want to control what Europe gets.
31:08
And we want to control what Canada gets.
31:11
I think that's that's the reason it's it.
31:13
You're right.
31:13
It's our hemisphere.
31:15
People may not like it, but that's that's
31:16
what it is.
31:18
And so it's all about control of the
31:20
shipping, all of those, even the ghost ships.
31:23
You know, they all go up through there
31:24
and they turn around and they they offload
31:26
stuff and they're doing stuff, you know, turn
31:29
off the transponders.
31:31
I think it is it's a direct attack
31:34
on Europe saying we're in control of this.
31:38
Let me finish the clip.
31:39
Necessary to take over and annex all of
31:42
Greenland.
31:42
Something that 85 percent of people living in
31:45
Greenland oppose.
31:46
Well, again, let's let's look back.
31:49
Denmark has a terrible history with Greenlanders.
31:52
There was forced sterilizations up until the 80s
31:54
or the 90s.
31:55
So all of a sudden.
31:57
Wow.
31:58
Wow.
31:58
He's he's pulling out the podcast stuff.
32:01
Nice.
32:01
Until the 80s or the 90s.
32:03
So all of a sudden, now that the
32:05
U.S. has expressed an interest, there is
32:07
this new interest.
32:09
And again, the United States needs to be
32:12
in control to prevent a war and that
32:15
we do not want to get dragged into
32:18
someone else's war.
32:20
Well, but this is about the United States
32:22
relationship with its allies, NATO allies, again, reacting
32:25
with alarm.
32:27
They're warning that this move to annex Greenland
32:31
could, in fact, destroy NATO.
32:33
So let me just put this good to
32:35
you bluntly.
32:36
Is Greenland or NATO more essential to the
32:39
United States national security?
32:40
Well, Chris, that's obviously a false choice that
32:43
that that's that's a maximum perspective of European
32:47
leaders.
32:48
The European leaders will come around and they
32:50
will understand that they need to be under
32:52
the U.S. security umbrella.
32:54
They'll get it.
32:55
Don't worry.
32:55
They'll understand.
32:56
So it was only cute.
32:58
It was only cute.
32:59
It was only in September when Marie Frederiksen,
33:02
the prime minister of Denmark, issued an official
33:05
apology to Greenland, calling the campaign to manage
33:09
Greenland's population.
33:11
She called it systemic discrimination.
33:14
It's also known as, oh, what's the word?
33:17
Eugenics.
33:19
They sterilize.
33:20
That's why they do.
33:21
That's why when you see the man on
33:22
the street reports from Greenland, all the people
33:24
say we hate the Danes.
33:25
Of course they do, because it was four
33:27
and a half thousand women and girls, someone
33:29
as young as 12.
33:32
They said, hey, come over here.
33:34
Boom, here's an IUD.
33:36
Without consent or knowledge, often.
33:40
And and and so Denmark, this ran up
33:42
until 1992.
33:44
It was a huge report, 350 pages.
33:49
And liberating them.
33:50
Yeah.
33:52
So.
33:53
You know, and where is the Welker?
33:57
Where's your report on that?
33:59
That would be rather interesting to report on.
34:02
That I mean, actual eugenics by the Danes
34:05
on the Greenlanders.
34:06
Why?
34:06
What were they afraid of?
34:07
They would multiply like bunnies and then do
34:11
something that was going to do here in
34:14
Greenland.
34:15
They're going to build more houses.
34:17
So.
34:20
You know, I'm really quite sure.
34:24
And by the way, it was interesting.
34:25
Hold on a second.
34:26
Where is it?
34:27
So as if Putin and Trump are having
34:30
some kind of phone call.
34:34
Which is very possible and possibly even likely.
34:38
Here's here's what happened this week with Putin
34:40
about Europe.
34:42
It's a surprise announcement.
34:43
Russian President Vladimir Putin says he's ready to
34:46
repair diplomatic ties with Europe, despite relations remaining
34:50
at their lowest point since Russia's full scale
34:53
invasion of Ukraine.
34:54
I would like to believe that over time
34:56
the situation will change and our countries will
34:58
return to normal constructive communication based on the
35:01
principles of respect for national interests and consideration
35:04
of legitimate security concerns.
35:06
Russia has been and remains committed to precisely
35:08
these approaches and is ready to restore the
35:10
level of relations we require.
35:12
Putin's comments come as Italy and France have
35:14
urged Europe to re-engage with the Kremlin.
35:17
Until now, European leaders have resisted direct talks,
35:20
pointing to Putin's lack of commitment to genuine
35:22
peace negotiations.
35:23
What do you think that play is?
35:25
All of a sudden Putin's like, hey, you
35:26
know, I'd love to hang out and talk
35:28
with you guys.
35:30
I have no idea.
35:30
Which is kind of the problem is it's
35:33
it's asymmetric.
35:34
That's asymmetric information.
35:36
Exactly.
35:38
It's a problem.
35:40
Yeah.
35:42
And I have no idea.
35:43
And then, of course, we have Carney in
35:44
China.
35:45
I know you have clips.
35:46
I'll play a little intro.
35:47
There's not that much.
35:48
I mean, Carney in China is something of
35:50
a red herring, I think.
35:51
But I thought it was fun.
35:53
It was fun.
35:54
Here's here's the 17 seconds of fun I
35:57
got.
35:57
As you mentioned, mine is the first visit
36:00
of a Canadian prime minister to China in
36:02
nearly a decade.
36:04
The world has changed much since that last
36:06
visit.
36:06
And I believe the progress that we have
36:09
made in the partnership sets us up well
36:11
for the new world order.
36:14
The new world order.
36:16
Yes, the clip that's been going around.
36:18
I love it.
36:20
More like, please don't change anything.
36:23
This is no good.
36:24
We don't like what Trump's doing.
36:25
We're afraid.
36:27
What's your Carney clip?
36:28
I have two Carney clips.
36:30
OK, I have I have Carney in Canada,
36:32
which is kind of a backgrounder.
36:34
Uh, we'll start with Carney.
36:37
It says minus.
36:39
Is that the yeah, that Canada's Prime Minister
36:41
Mark Carney announced today that his country is
36:44
cutting its 100 percent tariffs on electric vehicles
36:47
from China.
36:48
We started a new era, a new chapter
36:50
of our partnership.
36:51
Carney made the announcement during a visit to
36:53
China, the first by a Canadian leader in
36:56
eight years.
36:56
In exchange, Canada will get lower tariffs on
37:00
some farm products.
37:01
Carney and Chinese President Xi Jinping also pledged
37:05
to work on building stronger ties between their
37:07
two nations after years of tensions.
37:10
Canada has largely followed the U.S. in
37:12
imposing tariffs on Chinese products.
37:15
But Carney said today that they are building
37:17
a new partnership for what he called current
37:19
realities.
37:20
So they're all going to be driving electric
37:22
cars.
37:22
Great.
37:23
No, they just can't.
37:25
This report sucks.
37:27
This is PBS.
37:27
They left out a couple of things.
37:28
One 49000 car cap.
37:33
Yeah, I think that's important.
37:35
No, that's that amounts to like three total
37:37
percent of all the cars in Canada.
37:39
It's nothing.
37:40
So the other thing is, why did they
37:42
leave out that little when you played them?
37:44
I'm glad you played that clip, by the
37:45
way.
37:45
Why did they leave that part out?
37:47
That's the best part.
37:48
It's the most interesting, interesting part where he
37:51
talks about new new world order.
37:54
There's a new world order.
37:55
So there's this kid, I call him a
37:58
kid.
37:58
I don't know.
37:59
He's Chinese, so he can't tell how old
38:00
he is.
38:05
Ken Chow.
38:06
Oh, I'm sorry.
38:07
I missed the racist comment.
38:08
There we go.
38:10
Yes, we heard it.
38:11
We got you.
38:12
Yeah.
38:12
Can't tell.
38:13
Yeah, I'm sorry.
38:15
I shouldn't be doing material like that.
38:17
Very, very, very, very bad.
38:19
So this guy, Chow, he runs a he's
38:22
he's one of these online commentators, but he's
38:25
quite good.
38:27
And his commentation tends to be about China
38:30
going down the tubes.
38:33
And I was going to go broke any
38:34
minute, which is not there's a guy at
38:37
Stanford.
38:38
I've been hearing about this.
38:39
I've been reading that there's a lot of
38:41
people on this boat.
38:43
Yeah.
38:44
And so this guy's one of them, but
38:46
he makes a very good.
38:47
I think his little analysis of Carney here,
38:49
which is which is more elaborate than our
38:52
buddies on PBS, I thought was was valid.
38:56
This is a good analysis.
38:58
And here's the structural reality.
39:00
Canada cannot escape over 75 percent of Canadian
39:04
exports go to the U.S. and less
39:07
than 5 percent go to China.
39:10
That's the mismatch of the century.
39:13
In 2025, Canada-U.S. trade is more
39:18
than one trillion U.S. dollars, runs a
39:21
huge trade surplus with U.S. Canada to
39:25
China exports less than 30 billion dollars.
39:29
Trade deficit with China, 57.8 billion dollars.
39:34
So the U.S. bankrolls Canada's economy while
39:38
China drains it.
39:39
And security wise, Canada is welded to the
39:43
U.S. through NATO and NORAD.
39:46
You cannot change geography.
39:48
There is no universe, alternative universe where that
39:51
can be changed.
39:53
And interestingly, this deal also exposed Canada's internal
39:56
split.
39:57
As I said, Western farmers needed tariff relief.
40:01
But Eastern auto workers fear the Chinese dumping
40:05
of EVs.
40:06
Ontario premier called the Chinese EVs subsidized spy
40:12
cars.
40:13
So this is a political tradeoff.
40:15
Limited EV access, relief for farmers.
40:20
That is the only substance of this China
40:23
visit by Carney.
40:24
And Washington barely reacted.
40:27
Why?
40:28
Because nothing strategic changed.
40:32
Yeah, I think I think he's right.
40:33
This is a good kid.
40:35
Yeah, I mean, the canola oil, I guess
40:37
that's the main thing.
40:39
You export more canola oil.
40:42
Actually, the canola oil wasn't part of the
40:44
deal as much as it was just the
40:46
other products from the Canadian.
40:47
So I thought it was mainly about the
40:49
canola oil.
40:50
I misunderstood.
40:51
We have asynchronous information.
40:53
So yes, we do, which is why the
40:56
show is good.
40:56
And and so then we have finally I
41:00
was able to get, I thought, a reasonable
41:01
report about the Alberta separatists and people coming
41:07
out in droves for the to sign the
41:10
referendum.
41:11
This came from Global News.
41:13
I was looking for it.
41:14
Finally, the chill of a central Alberta night
41:16
in January couldn't keep hundreds from lining up
41:19
in Red Deer for a chance to support
41:21
an independent Alberta.
41:23
It's been an abusive relationship for so long,
41:25
really.
41:25
It's I think most of us just want
41:27
out.
41:28
Everybody's fed up.
41:29
We're done with it.
41:31
We've got to do something.
41:31
At the end of the line that snaked
41:33
around the block, a chance to sign a
41:35
petition calling for a referendum that would ask,
41:38
do you agree that the province of Alberta
41:39
should cease to be a part of Canada
41:41
to become an independent state?
41:44
I am actually honoured to be here and
41:47
see the huge turnout of everybody.
41:49
And it makes us all proud to be
41:51
Albertan.
41:52
The wait here to sign this petition is
41:53
more than an hour long, and this is
41:55
just one of three signing events being held
41:58
across Alberta on this particular night.
42:00
Organizers have to collect just under 178,000
42:04
signatures.
42:05
The turnout here, fueling optimism that that could
42:08
be done.
42:09
Yeah, I think that'll happen.
42:11
But then that's just the ref.
42:12
That's just to get the referendum.
42:14
Then, of course, you have the referendum and
42:16
they'll tell them that they voted wrong because
42:18
that's how it works in those countries.
42:20
Vote over.
42:22
I got a really interesting note.
42:24
It's too long to read.
42:26
I have it.
42:26
Mike McDonald, the long analysis.
42:28
Yeah, I put it in the show notes
42:30
so people can read it for themselves.
42:31
Oh, yeah, that'd be great.
42:32
People should go read it.
42:33
But I'll just read through.
42:34
He set it out in steps.
42:37
And so I'll just read the steps.
42:40
Step one.
42:41
But in that, I'm just prefacing it a
42:46
little bit.
42:47
In the scenario he presents, which he and
42:51
his buddy developed.
42:53
The guy lives in Southern California, but he's
42:54
Canadian.
42:56
And it's dynamite.
42:57
But it's not, I believe it to be
43:00
true.
43:01
And he does make what he does point
43:04
out the anomaly that has to be noted,
43:06
which is that Carney and Trump have had
43:11
a previous relationship.
43:14
And Carney and Trump submarine that other guy,
43:18
the pull of the pull, whatever the character
43:20
is, Paul of year, Paul of years campaign.
43:23
And he is the guy that would be
43:25
a better.
43:28
He's a conservative and he would have been
43:29
a better prime minister.
43:31
And Trump went out of his way to
43:33
submarine him and help get Carney in.
43:35
And Carney's the liberal who's going to Canada.
43:38
I'm sorry, going to China and having the
43:40
visits.
43:41
The whole thing is a scam.
43:43
And this guy's presentation, I think this are
43:46
producers commentary, I think is right on the
43:49
money.
43:50
So he starts by saying, step one, create
43:53
the conditions for the destruction of Canada.
43:56
Then his whole thesis is what we put
44:00
through Trudeau was put into power to make
44:02
us weak, to soften everybody, everybody up.
44:05
And he says Carney's role is to be
44:08
the closer to which I kind of like.
44:11
That is great.
44:12
And of course, every issue in Canada has
44:15
a Trump angle to it.
44:16
Step two, create momentum for Alberta independence in
44:21
progress, obviously.
44:22
Step three, get Alberta to hold a successful
44:25
referendum.
44:27
And he says that that has been started.
44:29
And again, I question that because that's hard
44:32
to do.
44:33
And in these countries, just like Ireland, you
44:35
know, vote again.
44:35
You did it wrong.
44:37
The step for post-referendum chaos.
44:40
He says this is the wild speculation part,
44:43
but we need some chaos.
44:44
It's always good to change, to change stuff.
44:47
Five, restore order and protect strategic resources.
44:51
And then Canada implodes.
44:54
Trump sends in troops to restore order, quote,
44:58
and prevent bloodshed and to protect our strategic
45:01
resources.
45:03
And I'm pretty sure that that Canadians would
45:07
welcome that if there really was chaos, like,
45:09
hey, what's all the fighting?
45:10
Hey, it's no good.
45:11
We want OOT.
45:14
Then, of course, Alberta would be a protectorate
45:17
and we'll get our pipeline with all the
45:20
oil.
45:23
And then he goes in, he kind of
45:25
goes off the rails with NATO getting involved.
45:29
And I'm not sure, but he says, watch
45:32
what happens to Greenland.
45:33
If NATO survives, then our scenario is a
45:35
little more difficult.
45:35
So he's banking on NATO blowing up with
45:42
what Trump is doing.
45:47
Well, if you wanted to go with that
45:51
thesis, you could make the argument that the
45:54
only, the real reason to do the Greenland
45:56
gambit.
45:57
Is to blow up NATO.
45:59
Is to blow up NATO.
46:00
So we'll call it the Greenland gambit.
46:02
I like Greenland gambit.
46:03
Potential show title.
46:05
Good show title too.
46:06
I'm gonna write that down.
46:07
Yes.
46:07
And so that would rationalize the whole Greenland
46:12
action.
46:13
If you were out to blow up NATO,
46:16
which is quite possible.
46:19
Because I don't think Trump's ever liked NATO.
46:22
He comes back and forth.
46:25
It's been a drain on the U.S.
46:27
economy.
46:28
There's been a couple of, I mean, these
46:30
are just useless drains.
46:31
It's not a drain that's done us any
46:33
good.
46:34
Although it has done a lot of good
46:35
for the Blockheeds and the military industrial complex.
46:42
Yes, yes.
46:43
But with or without our being part of
46:45
it, I mean, we've been kind of extracting
46:47
ourselves and making them buy more stuff than
46:49
less stuff.
46:51
We were buying all this stuff before and
46:53
giving it to them.
46:54
Well, so this clip that I skipped on
46:57
the Greenland gambit may come into play.
47:00
Because, as you know, everybody sent five guys,
47:04
I think.
47:05
Like, oh, NATO is doing exercises in Greenland.
47:09
Yeah, right.
47:09
You got 32 people or something like that.
47:11
A couple of dudes hanging out there.
47:13
And here's this one.
47:14
Or as Trump puts it, one more dog
47:16
sled.
47:17
Yes.
47:17
And here's France 24.
47:19
Inviting a possible invader to join your military
47:22
exercise is an unusual gambit.
47:25
Gambit, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
47:29
How about that?
47:29
An unusual gambit.
47:31
But that's exactly what the head of Denmark's
47:33
joint Arctic command has done.
47:36
We had actually a meeting today with a
47:39
lot of NATO partners, including the US, and
47:43
invited them to participate in this exercise.
47:47
NATO allies, excluding the US, kicked off military
47:50
drills on Greenland this week.
47:52
They're small but highly publicized in light of
47:55
President Donald Trump's bellicose rhetoric.
47:57
Bellicose.
48:00
What even does bellicose mean?
48:03
What is bellicose?
48:05
Well, look up the definition.
48:07
Bellicose.
48:09
Okay.
48:10
Bellicose.
48:12
And B-E-L-L-B-E-L
48:15
-L-I-C-O-S-E.
48:19
Huh.
48:20
Favoring or inclined to start quarrels or wars.
48:25
How about that?
48:28
Don't war over the meaning of bellicose.
48:31
Okay, so bellicose is war talk.
48:36
I don't think they use these words by
48:38
accident.
48:39
And Donald Trump's bellicose rhetoric.
48:44
The latest warning is that he'll slap tariffs
48:48
on any country that opposes his plans to
48:50
annex the Danish territory, a necessity, he argues,
48:54
because of Russian and Chinese ships in the
48:56
region that pose a threat to America.
48:58
Commander Soren Andersen sought to dispel that claim.
49:01
There are Chinese and Russian vessels in the
49:06
Arctic Ocean, but not near Greenland.
49:10
But of course, if we have Russia attacking
49:13
Greenland, it is my task to defend it.
49:16
And I will do that, both with Danish
49:20
troops, but of course, within the alliance as
49:22
well.
49:22
He insisted the U.S. doesn't pose a
49:25
threat, but Greenlanders fear they must take Trump
49:28
at his word.
49:29
Large numbers of them are expected to protest
49:31
this Saturday, joined by fellow citizens on the
49:33
Danish mainland, with the message, hands off Greenland.
49:37
Yeah, they had a big protest in Denmark,
49:39
and it was all coordinated.
49:41
Same signs, same flags.
49:42
Yeah, I'm sure that was coordinated by the
49:44
left.
49:44
But was there a protest in Greenland, like
49:47
he said?
49:48
Yes, yes, yeah.
49:50
I didn't even clip it, there were so
49:52
few people.
49:52
And all they did is they got one
49:53
dude with a ginger, with red hair, that
49:57
was the guy I was talking about, with
49:58
a hat.
49:59
He's like, no, we don't want Trump.
50:02
A ginger?
50:03
Yes, in Iceland.
50:04
Those are all intuits up there.
50:06
I'm telling you.
50:07
They're all Eskimos.
50:09
They always seem to get the very Western
50:12
looking people, who speak reasonable English.
50:19
So, has Russia...
50:20
Russia hasn't had any historical connection to Greenland,
50:24
have they?
50:25
No, no, no, they're not going to attack
50:28
Greenland.
50:29
That's a good one.
50:31
We got a new Ukraine, it's called Greenland.
50:34
You want to hear the protesters?
50:38
Yeah, let's hear the protesters.
50:40
It's from Euronews, I think it's the black
50:42
guy again.
50:43
Thousands of people took to the streets of
50:45
Copenhagen on Saturday to protest against US President
50:49
Donald Trump's push to take over Greenland.
50:54
Demonstrations were also held in several other Danish
50:56
cities.
50:57
Protesters united under one slogan, hands off Greenland.
51:02
We're protesting against the orange dictator in the
51:07
US who's trying...
51:09
Ah, we're protesting against the orange dictator.
51:13
Okay, all right.
51:15
We're protesting against the orange dictator in the
51:20
US who's trying to bully his way to
51:23
undermine the sovereignty of the Greenlandic people and
51:27
take away their right to decide who they
51:29
want to be part of.
51:31
The protest followed Trump's threats on Friday to
51:33
impose tariffs on countries that oppose his plans
51:36
to take over mineral-rich Greenland.
51:39
Mineral-rich.
51:40
Oh, brother.
51:41
Yeah, that's the narrative now, mineral-rich.
51:44
Whatever you do, don't mention the Greenland-Iceland
51:48
-UK gap.
51:49
Whatever you do, don't talk about shipping lanes.
51:51
We can't have that in the news.
51:53
We can't have people looking at a map.
51:54
Oh, Lord, imagine if they looked at a
51:57
map.
51:59
And of course, I have to start looking
52:02
to see if there's any mainstream news reports
52:05
where they say, so how do you feel
52:07
about Denmark sterilizing your girls as young as
52:09
12?
52:11
Up until 92, which is...
52:14
Let's do a real survey up there instead
52:15
of just some red-headed guy coming on
52:17
the air.
52:18
I could probably...
52:19
Give me a break.
52:20
I could probably find that clip.
52:22
Let me see.
52:24
Let me see.
52:26
It might be worth it.
52:28
Oh, find Greenland.
52:29
Hey, where is it?
52:38
Crap.
52:38
Let me just...
52:39
Yeah, we had too much clips.
52:41
Lippage.
52:41
Well, it's only because we've talked about this
52:44
guy so much.
52:47
Greenland protests.
52:51
No, I don't know.
52:53
I can't find it.
52:55
I don't remember what...
52:56
I think it's in a Greenland talk.
52:59
Yes, I think we've exhausted it.
53:01
And it probably will come out at Davos.
53:08
And we might...
53:09
That's...
53:09
you're right.
53:10
We're probably going to hear something there.
53:13
And there will be outrage.
53:15
And that will be the only news that
53:16
they cover.
53:17
But there's obviously other things going on in
53:19
the background.
53:19
There's something going on.
53:20
Yeah.
53:21
I'm telling you.
53:22
Give me your bike.
53:23
It's over.
53:25
Bike?
53:26
No bike.
53:27
They don't even have bikes.
53:28
I don't think I've even seen a bike
53:30
going around Switzerland.
53:31
Give me your skis.
53:32
Give me your sled.
53:33
The skis, that would be a big deal.
53:34
Give me your sled.
53:35
It's all over.
53:37
So I've gotten to change topics.
53:42
It turns out that Joe DiGenova...
53:45
Yes.
53:47
...is a regular guest on one of the
53:50
radio stations in Washington, D.C., WMAL, News
53:56
Talk 105.9. Oh, it's on FM.
53:59
Yes, it's News Talk 105.9, News Talk.
54:02
Now, question.
54:04
I know you're excited about Joe DiGenova.
54:06
Is what he says interesting?
54:10
Yes.
54:11
Actually, they give him a long segment.
54:16
It's not a zoo, but there's three people.
54:19
There's this guy, Larry O'Connor, who's an
54:21
old...
54:21
Where's Joey?
54:22
It's not a zoo.
54:23
They don't play it that way.
54:25
Oh, okay.
54:26
But they do have a white girl and
54:27
a black girl and him.
54:30
Larry O'Connor is an old pro who's
54:32
been around a lot, who was involved with
54:36
producing Dennis Miller, it was Blog Talk Radio.
54:42
Blog Talk Radio.
54:48
Blog Talk Radio.
54:50
Yeah, Blog Talk Radio.
54:52
That's when we were all doing podcasting.
54:54
Like, no, man, it's called audio blogs, okay?
54:57
We're doing Blog Talk Radio.
54:58
I don't care what you want with your
54:59
podcast.
55:01
So I got a bunch of clips from
55:03
this show, which is actually quite good for
55:07
a local station.
55:10
And I have DiGenova, but I have some
55:12
other stuff too, and I want to play
55:13
it.
55:14
Okay.
55:14
And this will be Joe on...
55:20
This is clip number one.
55:22
This is Joe DiGenova one.
55:24
I'm not sure what's on this clip, but
55:26
most of the clips are about Jack Smith.
55:29
Great setup.
55:29
Thank you.
55:30
Well, it's great to have Joe DiGenova, legal
55:32
analyst, former U.S. attorney to the District
55:34
of Columbia.
55:35
Good morning, Joe.
55:35
Good Monday to you.
55:36
Good morning, everybody.
55:38
Oh, goodness.
55:38
By now, you like everyone in America.
55:40
Okay.
55:41
So what has not changed is he's still
55:43
on a horrible-sounding connection over the phone.
55:46
Over the phone.
55:48
Who still does remote interviews over the phone?
55:53
Sorry, that just irks me that he hasn't
55:55
upgraded anything.
55:56
I'm in total agreement with you.
55:57
It makes zero sense.
55:59
This is 2026.
56:02
This is not 1970.
56:05
I'm calling in from the heartland of America.
56:07
...District of Columbia.
56:08
Good morning, Joe.
56:09
Good Monday to you.
56:10
Good morning, everybody.
56:11
By now, you, like everyone in America and
56:13
around the world, have seen the point of
56:14
view video taken by the ICE agent who
56:18
eventually ended up having to use lethal force
56:21
against Renee Goode.
56:22
So one ICE agent says, get out of
56:23
the car.
56:24
That's the third time that ICE agent had
56:26
instructed Renee Goode to get out of the
56:28
car.
56:29
Then Renee Goode's same-sex spouse yells, drive.
56:33
By the way, it turns out, as I
56:35
heard this morning, they were not actually married
56:38
at all.
56:39
There's no evidence they were ever married.
56:43
Ah, scandal.
56:44
I know.
56:45
They were living out of wedlock?
56:48
Out of wedlock and in severe sin, yes,
56:51
sir, did Renee Goode to get out of
56:52
the car.
56:53
Then Renee Goode's same-sex spouse yells, drive,
56:57
baby, drive.
56:58
And that she did.
56:59
It drove right into an ICE agent's and
57:01
then shots fired.
57:03
So, Joe, based on your legal analysis, is
57:06
there even gray area here on this one?
57:08
No, none whatsoever.
57:10
First of all, let's remember, this is a
57:13
law enforcement action.
57:14
You know, I'm sorry.
57:15
Hold on.
57:15
I am now sad that you brought up
57:21
the point, which I kind of ignored, I
57:23
guess, psychologically, that he's on a phone.
57:27
Now all I hear is an idiot on
57:30
the phone, like maybe at a phone booth,
57:32
who knows where.
57:34
Wait, wait, wait.
57:34
He was actually able to find a phone
57:36
booth.
57:37
Yeah, phone booth is going through my brain.
57:41
You've ruined these clips for me before I've
57:43
even played them.
57:45
We shall continue.
57:47
This is a law enforcement action, which is
57:50
taking place in a public area where ICE
57:54
has the absolute federal legal authority to operate.
57:57
They were conducting ICE enforcement operations.
58:00
That car had been following ICE all day,
58:04
trying to interfere in the execution of their
58:06
duties.
58:06
This was not just some random car that
58:08
showed up.
58:09
Goode, the driver, perfectly got.
58:14
So this is reiterating everything you said, that
58:17
the guy's going to get off, and this
58:19
is normal analysis that he does.
58:22
I just want to move it along so
58:24
I can get to the good stuff.
58:26
But this is his gig now, Joe.
58:30
He works with this show, and he comes
58:32
on, I guess, on Mondays and a couple
58:34
other times during the week, and he gives
58:36
us...
58:36
And he's an ex-US attorney, so he's
58:39
got some chops in that regard.
58:40
He doesn't bring up anything about sealed indictments
58:42
anymore.
58:43
Ah, well, that was the whole point of
58:45
playing him.
58:46
Well, that was in the olden days, but
58:48
now he does have some good stuff on
58:50
Jack Smith.
58:53
Explain who Jack Smith is.
58:55
People have forgotten by now.
58:57
What?
58:57
You really think so?
58:59
Yes.
58:59
Yes, I think so.
59:01
Okay, Jack Smith was a phony baloney special
59:03
prosecutor that was illegally dubbed to be a
59:07
special prosecutor against Trump, and he did a
59:09
bunch of illegal stuff to try to get
59:11
the goods on Trump and get him thrown
59:14
in jail.
59:14
He couldn't accomplish it.
59:16
But here's Joe on Jack Smith.
59:19
And we're learning more and more about Jack
59:21
Smith's Arctic Frost investigation, including a leaked memo
59:27
now with some redactions, but at least we
59:29
can glean from it based on Julie Kelly's
59:31
reporting that Jack Smith paid an FBI informant
59:35
to get dirt on Trump during this investigation.
59:38
Is that typical behavior for a special prosecutor
59:41
to pay an informant?
59:43
I mean, if you've got an informant, why
59:44
do they have to be paid?
59:45
It's almost like there's an incentive there.
59:48
What?
59:50
What is he talking about?
59:52
The FBI pays informants or undercover human, what
59:57
do they call it?
59:58
Undercover human...
1:00:00
Yeah, there's something.
1:00:01
No, I agree.
1:00:02
He's off the mark there.
1:00:04
But there's a nuance here, though.
1:00:06
OK, OK.
1:00:07
To get dirt on the subject of the
1:00:09
investigation.
1:00:11
Well, it is highly unusual for a prosecutor
1:00:14
to pay informants.
1:00:16
That's usually done by the FBI or local
1:00:19
law enforcement with the consent of a prosecutor.
1:00:21
But it adds to the texture of the
1:00:24
complete unconstitutional conduct of Jack Smith, Andrew Weissman
1:00:28
and everybody else associated who advised him.
1:00:32
And Weissman was clearly one of his advisors
1:00:34
throughout this process.
1:00:35
This is complete, absolute abuse of power.
1:00:40
There was a fascinating article over the weekend
1:00:42
by Jason Wittig, who is a writer, a
1:00:45
columnist for The Washington Post, who described the
1:00:47
damage to the First Amendment that Jack Smith
1:00:50
did by going after the presidential speech of
1:00:53
a politician like Donald Trump in the middle
1:00:56
of the campaign.
1:00:57
That is the least of the damage that
1:00:59
Jack Smith has done.
1:01:00
He has completely upended neutral and detached law
1:01:04
enforcement at the federal level.
1:01:06
And he is singularly responsible for the lack
1:01:08
of trust in the Department of Justice even
1:01:11
to this day.
1:01:13
It just seems like Jack Smith.
1:01:16
Who cares about Jack Smith anymore?
1:01:18
It seems to be completely off the radar.
1:01:20
Well, they're trying to throw him in jail.
1:01:23
Yeah, but you know...
1:01:25
Well, here's part two.
1:01:25
But Minneapolis, man.
1:01:27
But Iran.
1:01:29
Yeah, I'm in partial agreement with that idea.
1:01:33
He does say one more thing about Jack
1:01:36
Smith, which I thought was good.
1:01:37
But we can skip that because I know
1:01:39
you're not going to like this too long.
1:01:40
But at the end of all, this is
1:01:42
going on about how Jack Smith shouldn't do
1:01:44
a public testimony because he's going to slam
1:01:46
Trump.
1:01:47
That's the summary.
1:01:48
But then he says this little interesting kicker,
1:01:51
this is the Joe DiGenova kicker.
1:01:54
Well, there's no doubt that the grand jury
1:01:57
in Florida, which I originally was going to
1:01:59
be supervising but won't be because of Pam
1:02:01
Bondi, there's no doubt that the grand jury
1:02:04
in Florida has every opportunity to do exactly
1:02:07
that, Larry.
1:02:08
Call all of those people into the grand
1:02:10
jury in Florida.
1:02:12
Get their testimony.
1:02:13
Not just for the raid on Mar-a
1:02:14
-Lago, which was an outrageous abuse of constitutional
1:02:18
authority by Jack Smith and Christopher Wray.
1:02:20
Not just that.
1:02:21
But for all of the actions that were
1:02:23
taken prior to that, starting in 2016, six
1:02:27
years before the raid on Mar-a-Lago,
1:02:30
when FBI agents abused their power and when
1:02:33
the FBI director James Comey outrageously violated the
1:02:37
Constitution on numerous occasions.
1:02:39
Yeah.
1:02:40
So what is this?
1:02:41
So I tried doing some research on this.
1:02:43
About the Florida.
1:02:45
About Pam Bondi and about him.
1:02:47
Yeah.
1:02:49
I can't find anything.
1:02:50
Hmm.
1:02:51
So he's got a grudge against Pam Bondi.
1:02:53
Pam Bondi did something.
1:02:55
And I don't know what, but it irked
1:02:59
him.
1:02:59
And so that was the reason for this
1:03:01
series of clips from the Genova, because just
1:03:03
this Pam Bondi thing.
1:03:05
Now, that said, I do have two clips
1:03:07
from the same show, which got nothing to
1:03:10
do with Joe DeGenova.
1:03:11
It's about a trend going on in D
1:03:14
.C. I didn't do nothing about.
1:03:16
And I guess there's a Reddit thread about
1:03:18
it.
1:03:19
And it's a big deal.
1:03:19
And this could go national.
1:03:24
I have two clips.
1:03:25
One of them was actually mislabeled on my.
1:03:28
You have them correct.
1:03:30
Crying in pub.
1:03:31
Tell me if you heard about this.
1:03:33
Crying in public.
1:03:35
I have not heard about this.
1:03:37
I've heard about crying on TikTok and crying
1:03:41
on your Instagram.
1:03:44
Yeah, they cry a lot.
1:03:45
But this this is.
1:03:47
The jaw dropper.
1:03:48
It's amazing.
1:03:50
WUSA Channel nine here in D.C., they've
1:03:53
put together an article.
1:03:54
They've been looking at D.C. Reddit threads
1:03:56
over the last six years where people share
1:03:59
their top places to go to cry in
1:04:02
the District of Columbia.
1:04:04
So we're talking the streets of the excuse
1:04:07
me, the steps of the Lincoln Memorial, the
1:04:09
Andrew Mellon Memorial Fountain, the United States National
1:04:16
Arboretum.
1:04:17
You know, again, these are all public places.
1:04:20
Union Station.
1:04:20
I would cry when I was walking through
1:04:22
Union Station because I was terrified of the
1:04:24
drug addicts and the and the stench of
1:04:27
the criminal vagrants that were urinating in the
1:04:30
halls there before Trump cleaned it up.
1:04:34
How about the Botanic Gardens?
1:04:35
Oh, the steps of the Watergate.
1:04:37
Come on.
1:04:38
Are you serious?
1:04:40
Yeah.
1:04:40
It's a strange, strange stuff.
1:04:42
You've got the Library of Congress National Nationals
1:04:45
Park.
1:04:45
Are we talking about if you're a Nats
1:04:48
fan?
1:04:49
You were doing a lot of crying this
1:04:50
season.
1:04:52
That's somewhat.
1:04:53
OK, that one.
1:04:54
Yeah, that one will forgive.
1:04:56
Yeah, this really is.
1:04:57
It's a disturbing part of, I think, this
1:04:59
trend that you see all the time.
1:05:00
Heather Hunter had a great had a great
1:05:02
post on X about this, that you do
1:05:04
see all these people who are filming themselves
1:05:07
crying and then posting it to tick tock
1:05:09
as though it's this.
1:05:10
Oh, oh, there you go.
1:05:11
It's something that they should be proud of
1:05:13
and to be publicly celebrated or something.
1:05:16
It's very strange.
1:05:17
Yeah.
1:05:17
And it's it's it's like, you know, it's
1:05:21
like a self-induced struggle session on social
1:05:24
media.
1:05:25
Wait, it's crapping out.
1:05:26
What?
1:05:26
What?
1:05:27
He self-induced what?
1:05:28
I don't know.
1:05:29
That was the I try.
1:05:30
No, I was on the recording.
1:05:32
Yeah, I'm trying to figure out what he's
1:05:33
saying.
1:05:34
Self-induced strange.
1:05:35
Yeah.
1:05:36
And it's it's it's like, you know, it's
1:05:39
like a self-induced struggle.
1:05:41
Self-induced struggle session like a Chinese struggle.
1:05:45
Oh, oh, I didn't get that at all.
1:05:48
Interesting observations.
1:05:50
Yeah.
1:05:50
And it's it's it's like, you know, it's
1:05:53
like a self-induced struggle session on social
1:05:56
media that you're supposed to be having, I
1:05:59
guess, because you're ashamed of your privilege or
1:06:02
something.
1:06:02
I don't know.
1:06:02
I honestly don't know.
1:06:03
People, the left in Washington, D.C. run
1:06:07
the show.
1:06:07
They've got, you know, it's not conservatives that
1:06:09
are going out there and weeping on the
1:06:11
steps of the Lincoln Memorial.
1:06:13
They have they own the district council.
1:06:16
They own the mayor's seat.
1:06:18
They vote.
1:06:18
Ninety two percent Democrat.
1:06:20
They have their run of the place, but
1:06:23
it's not enough power for.
1:06:25
OK, so first of all, shame on these
1:06:27
guys for broadcasting through Skype or whatever or
1:06:32
Zoom, because that sounds like a Zoom.
1:06:35
That was off of their website.
1:06:36
I know.
1:06:37
I know.
1:06:38
It's ridiculous.
1:06:39
But I agree.
1:06:40
But yeah, this phenomenon, I mean, obviously people
1:06:48
are so upset.
1:06:50
They really I believe it.
1:06:52
I believe they're really upset and they're upset
1:06:54
enough to cry.
1:06:55
They feel hopeless.
1:06:56
Yeah, but then they put up a website.
1:06:58
So they have certain cool places to cry.
1:07:02
Let's go to the steps of the Lincoln
1:07:03
Memorial and film ourselves crying.
1:07:05
This is a good spot.
1:07:06
It's got a nice background.
1:07:08
It's got the right ambiance.
1:07:09
Give me a break.
1:07:10
This kind of goes along with the Minneapolis.
1:07:13
We're only here for love, which is just
1:07:16
the continuous message from the mayor and from
1:07:19
the governor.
1:07:21
I feel very bad that people are this
1:07:23
disoriented and this sad.
1:07:25
And yeah, of course, you want to you
1:07:27
want to I mean, when you're in a
1:07:29
if you all get together and you're all
1:07:31
sad and you're mourning together, I will mourn
1:07:33
with you.
1:07:34
Yes, I will cry with you.
1:07:35
I feel very play clip to and then
1:07:39
tell me what you more what you think.
1:07:41
You know, and it is interesting that this
1:07:43
has been going on for six years.
1:07:44
So it's not even I mean, we know
1:07:45
that this I would have I wouldn't have
1:07:47
been surprised if this was part of like
1:07:49
the Trump derangement syndrome, people not knowing how
1:07:52
to handle their feelings over the last year
1:07:54
when they've been after the big Kamala Harris
1:07:58
loss.
1:07:58
But no, this is something that I guess
1:08:00
is just a regular feature of Washington, D
1:08:02
.C. life now.
1:08:04
Well, they're being exploited, obviously, six years.
1:08:09
I mean, it started with Biden or the
1:08:11
end of Trump or maybe covid and they're
1:08:14
crying away.
1:08:15
And there's a I think the struggles I'm
1:08:18
glad you caught that because I couldn't I
1:08:19
couldn't hear it either.
1:08:21
This the idea of a struggle session, which
1:08:23
is a very lefty communist thing where, you
1:08:27
know, you you're privileged.
1:08:29
And so you have to get the let's
1:08:31
get the definition of the struggle session.
1:08:32
Of course, it comes for from China, also
1:08:37
known as denunciation rallies, where violent public spectacles
1:08:41
in Mao's China were where people accused of
1:08:43
being class enemies were publicly humiliated.
1:08:46
So it's not quite the same thing.
1:08:48
Now, that's kind of humiliating to cry in
1:08:50
public.
1:08:51
But this is a self.
1:08:52
Well, he said it's self-induced struggle session.
1:08:54
He was correct in what he said, a
1:08:56
self-induced struggle session.
1:08:58
But let me just play the beginning of
1:09:02
this clip because it includes a Minneapolis protester.
1:09:10
And just listen, listen to what he says,
1:09:12
because this is the belief.
1:09:14
Rising tensions came to a head.
1:09:17
Anti and pro ice protesters clashed as police
1:09:20
roamed the streets of Minneapolis, a city emblematic
1:09:23
of a national divide.
1:09:24
I don't know what happened next, but I'm
1:09:27
scared because I think Donald Trump wants to
1:09:29
use Minneapolis as a as a key or
1:09:32
a hotspot to launch his coup.
1:09:35
He's trying to create fascism.
1:09:36
He's trying to end the republic.
1:09:38
He's trying to create violence so that he
1:09:40
can send in the troops.
1:09:41
That is what they believe.
1:09:44
Yes.
1:09:45
And they believe I've got time.
1:09:47
I have no I didn't take any of
1:09:48
these clips.
1:09:49
But I have seen tons of them where
1:09:53
you had exactly what you said.
1:09:54
Yes.
1:09:55
They all say that kind of thing.
1:09:57
And they all genuinely believe it.
1:10:00
They're taught to believe it somehow through the
1:10:02
media and their local leaders.
1:10:04
Yes, yes.
1:10:06
And now that the struggle session idea has
1:10:10
been brought into this thinking, I have to
1:10:12
say that that is very concerning.
1:10:16
Well, this is this is the white privilege
1:10:19
thing taken to the limit.
1:10:22
Yeah, it's this is like a this is
1:10:24
like race, race, race, race, race, suicide.
1:10:30
Oh, I'm glad you brought that up, because
1:10:33
if we look at Minneapolis and I have
1:10:36
clips and, you know, Jacob Fry was on
1:10:38
with Brennan and this morning and with Jonathan
1:10:41
Carl, you know, blah, blah, blah.
1:10:43
It's all kind of it.
1:10:46
First of all, it's all about the midterms.
1:10:48
And both sides, both sides are exploiting this.
1:10:52
This is what you do.
1:10:53
You exploit human emotion to get people to
1:10:57
vote.
1:10:57
And so you you you drive.
1:10:59
It's called a wedge issue.
1:11:00
Used to be abortion.
1:11:03
I'm sorry, health care, reproductive health care, reproductive
1:11:09
rights, reproductive rights.
1:11:11
So the new one is they're ripping families
1:11:15
apart.
1:11:15
They're doing all these things.
1:11:18
And and and so I get emails from
1:11:20
people and they say, hey, you know, I'm
1:11:21
all about ice removing illegal immigrants and violent
1:11:27
crimes.
1:11:27
And then and then go on to say,
1:11:29
but, you know, I'm not OK with the
1:11:33
big.
1:11:33
But I'm not OK with people being stopped
1:11:35
on the street.
1:11:36
And to that, I want to just say
1:11:38
the following.
1:11:40
First of all, everybody had the opportunity to
1:11:44
self not extradite report to self-deport themselves
1:11:50
with a thousand dollars and a plane ticket
1:11:52
to then re-register and come in legally.
1:11:55
And I don't know if that'll take five
1:11:57
months or five years, but and and we
1:12:00
have it here.
1:12:00
We had thirty three people picked up on
1:12:02
Main Street in Fredericksburg.
1:12:05
And I'm sure that these some of these
1:12:07
people are, you know, that they're in fact,
1:12:11
I know for a fact that one of
1:12:13
the cleaning services, ICE raided the cleaning service
1:12:16
and took a bunch of cleaning ladies.
1:12:19
And it's heartbreaking.
1:12:22
But, you know, either we have a country
1:12:26
with laws or we don't then.
1:12:28
And so the whole racist angle, because it
1:12:31
is racist of people thinking this way, is,
1:12:36
well, I don't like it that brown and
1:12:38
black people are being stopped and asked for
1:12:39
their papers.
1:12:40
Well, we are under a kind of an
1:12:41
emergency situation.
1:12:43
But the same people never emailed me and
1:12:46
said, gee, doesn't it suck for straight white
1:12:50
men who cannot get a job and haven't
1:12:53
been able to do that for at least
1:12:54
five, six years?
1:12:58
No one mentioned that.
1:13:00
So, you know, life is not fair.
1:13:03
But if we're going to fix our country,
1:13:06
I think we have to go through this.
1:13:09
And people who are just I mean, you
1:13:11
know, it's like there is no fix.
1:13:14
These people, you know, technology often represents human
1:13:20
behavior.
1:13:21
I think these people are like large language
1:13:23
models, except they've been trained on one set
1:13:26
of data, mainly from Reddit, apparently.
1:13:29
And by the way, there are actual large
1:13:31
language models that train on Reddit.
1:13:34
Oh, yeah, I think a lot of them
1:13:35
do.
1:13:35
So once you have this in your corpus,
1:13:38
what's going to come out is always going
1:13:40
to be a pattern recognition of the same
1:13:42
behavior, the same answers.
1:13:45
And in fact, just to interrupt you, the
1:13:48
but go ahead.
1:13:50
Just to interrupt you.
1:13:53
Just to interrupt you.
1:13:55
Elon posted today a note.
1:13:57
Somebody had done some research and found out
1:13:59
that chat GPT in particular only recommended Kamala
1:14:04
Harris to people who are questioning of, you
1:14:07
know, ask questions about who to vote for
1:14:08
and never once recommended Donald Trump.
1:14:12
That's part of the corpus.
1:14:14
Yes.
1:14:14
Interesting you bring that up.
1:14:16
I was using Gemini a few weeks back.
1:14:18
I didn't I forgot to mention this.
1:14:19
And I was looking up information about Nick
1:14:24
Fuentes and I really, you know, for as
1:14:27
much as I bag on AI, I really
1:14:29
do enjoy the Gemini pro research capabilities and
1:14:34
has sources and you can go and check
1:14:36
everything.
1:14:37
And it does a pretty reasonable rundown.
1:14:39
I'm enjoying it.
1:14:40
It saves me work.
1:14:42
It does.
1:14:43
No, I think this stuff is excellent.
1:14:46
However, however.
1:14:48
So it gave me it gave me a
1:14:49
full rundown of Fuentes.
1:14:51
And then I said, could you please do
1:14:53
the same analysis with a positive view of
1:14:56
Fuentes?
1:14:57
And no matter how I ask the question,
1:14:59
it said, I'm sorry, I cannot do that
1:15:02
for people who are.
1:15:05
And I forget the exact term, but people
1:15:08
who are like basically people who are racist
1:15:10
or who are known Nazi sympathizers or the
1:15:14
anti-Semites.
1:15:17
I cannot do research.
1:15:19
I'm like, well, there it is.
1:15:21
That's exact.
1:15:22
And I had to ask for it because
1:15:23
it wasn't going to give me a pro
1:15:25
and a con.
1:15:26
It gave me Fuentes is no good.
1:15:29
And when I say, please give me an
1:15:31
overview of and just give me a positive
1:15:34
view.
1:15:34
What things are positive?
1:15:35
I'm sorry, I can't even give you that.
1:15:38
That's now there's the reason I dislike AI.
1:15:42
I'm all in with with that thinking.
1:15:46
It's disgusting that the AI does that and
1:15:49
it does it all the time.
1:15:50
So the and and you know what?
1:15:53
No, it's all left.
1:15:54
It's all lefty.
1:15:55
But it's not conservative.
1:15:58
Grok does the same thing.
1:16:00
Grok can't give me a positive Nick Fuentes.
1:16:02
It can't.
1:16:04
You tried it.
1:16:04
Yes.
1:16:05
Oh, I tried Chad GPT.
1:16:07
And, you know, Grok may do a little
1:16:08
bit more.
1:16:09
But, you know, it basically whenever it comes
1:16:11
to anti-Semitism, I can't really do stuff.
1:16:14
And we know because Elon got in trouble
1:16:16
for that and he immediately put some guardrails
1:16:18
around it.
1:16:19
So the point is, when people's brains are
1:16:22
programmed, and even though I complain that, you
1:16:26
know, who's really watching this stuff?
1:16:29
It is the mainstream that the podcast industrial
1:16:33
complex picks up.
1:16:35
You know, the podcast.
1:16:37
Sorry for the phrase circle jerk.
1:16:39
Everybody going on each other's podcast.
1:16:43
I'm on his tomorrow.
1:16:44
You'll be on mine next week.
1:16:45
Be on your podcast.
1:16:46
I was on your pod.
1:16:47
Had you?
1:16:48
That was great.
1:16:48
Yeah, we agree.
1:16:49
Oh, yeah, I totally agree.
1:16:52
They get it all from there.
1:16:55
So it is narrative setting.
1:16:57
It really is.
1:16:58
That's where the clips come from.
1:16:59
So it does trickle down.
1:17:01
So it is important that we that we
1:17:03
do this work that we're doing.
1:17:05
But you cannot deprogram these people.
1:17:08
I think the president's plan, and this is
1:17:10
the only plan, and that give him 45
1:17:13
percent chance it's going to work.
1:17:16
If he can turn our country into a
1:17:19
success where everybody has more money or at
1:17:23
least more purchasing power, where everybody is able
1:17:26
to buy a home or have an affordable
1:17:29
rent.
1:17:30
He added another thing, by the way.
1:17:32
Get a job.
1:17:33
Yes.
1:17:34
If you're white.
1:17:36
Thank you.
1:17:37
Get a job if you're white.
1:17:39
He added something that you can now take
1:17:41
out early, take out money from your 401k
1:17:45
early retirement at no penalty if it's for
1:17:47
buying a house and you never have to
1:17:50
pay tax on it.
1:17:51
It stays within the house.
1:17:52
It's kind of interesting dynamic.
1:17:55
But if he can achieve that, where people
1:17:58
actually see success.
1:17:59
He said this early on, I think in
1:18:00
2015 or 2016, he said, I will bring
1:18:04
together people by making America successful.
1:18:09
And so far, you know, people aren't seeing
1:18:13
it.
1:18:13
They aren't feeling it.
1:18:15
So I just hope that he hangs.
1:18:16
Well, there's a lot of struggle against it.
1:18:19
There's overt action against it.
1:18:24
Of course.
1:18:26
And that's good.
1:18:26
You know, they fight it.
1:18:28
They're fighting it.
1:18:30
Democrats and Republicans alike.
1:18:33
They're all fighting it.
1:18:35
Yeah, they're fighting it.
1:18:36
Either by directly fighting it.
1:18:38
So I feel I really feel bad.
1:18:40
These people need Jesus.
1:18:42
They need prayer, whatever it is they need.
1:18:44
They need something other than a struggle session
1:18:47
on the steps of Watergate.
1:18:50
You know, so believers go out there and
1:18:53
preach over them.
1:18:53
I don't know.
1:18:54
We've got to do something, because even if
1:18:57
we're successful, if we can't look at our
1:18:59
neighbors, the country's doomed.
1:19:03
You know, you can't just have we can't
1:19:05
just be posting videos of people crying all
1:19:08
the time on X.
1:19:12
But it's no future.
1:19:14
It's no future.
1:19:15
By the way, I'm going to be a
1:19:17
granddad.
1:19:19
Oh, good for you.
1:19:19
Yeah.
1:19:20
Well, I had nothing to do with it.
1:19:22
Yeah, you didn't do anything.
1:19:23
What are you bragging about?
1:19:24
I'm not bragging.
1:19:26
I'll take all the credit, he says.
1:19:28
I'm happy.
1:19:30
I'm happy.
1:19:31
I was hoping this would happen.
1:19:33
So I want my grandchild to have some
1:19:37
kind of future.
1:19:38
I know it's not going to be the
1:19:39
EU.
1:19:41
Well, you know, they're in the EU now,
1:19:43
as far as I can tell.
1:19:44
Yeah, I'm going to get him out.
1:19:45
I'm going to do an extraction.
1:19:47
It's not easy, you think.
1:19:49
Agent Orange, get ready.
1:19:51
We're going to black bag them.
1:19:54
We're going to throw hoods over their heads.
1:19:55
You might as well kidnap them.
1:19:57
Might have to.
1:19:59
Our theme.
1:19:59
Yeah, like getting them out of Scientology.
1:20:03
I'm going to bust them up.
1:20:04
So since you were on AI, I wanted
1:20:06
to get these grok clips out of the
1:20:09
way.
1:20:09
OK.
1:20:10
Because there's a bunch of this.
1:20:13
Everyone's got their panties in a bunch.
1:20:15
Hey, I called this.
1:20:16
I called this.
1:20:17
I know you did.
1:20:18
I was looking at dance fans.
1:20:22
Yeah, because I was getting a lot.
1:20:24
By the way, what am I getting now?
1:20:25
I'm getting something new now.
1:20:27
Oh, yeah, I'm getting for some reason.
1:20:30
My feed is loaded with these with the
1:20:33
cop breaking the window.
1:20:36
Oh, oh, I'm getting like, I know, like
1:20:39
the sovereign citizens, people like.
1:20:42
Yeah, I'm traveling.
1:20:43
I am not committing commerce.
1:20:46
Can you can you prove that I was
1:20:48
speeding?
1:20:48
Also for.
1:20:50
Yeah, can I see the thing that proves
1:20:52
it?
1:20:53
I'm not getting out.
1:20:54
I'm not doing this.
1:20:55
And then he breaks the window.
1:20:56
So I think this is a I think
1:20:59
this is.
1:20:59
I put this in one of my comments.
1:21:02
I think this is the the the glass
1:21:06
window replacement lobby.
1:21:11
OK, it's really native advertising.
1:21:14
OK, it is promoting your people not to
1:21:18
open their door on.
1:21:19
You're stuck in an alcohol.
1:21:21
Close.
1:21:22
Here we go.
1:21:23
Close the tab.
1:21:24
Elon Musk was forced to put more restrictions
1:21:26
on his social media platform X and its
1:21:29
AI chatbot Grok this week after its image
1:21:32
generator sparked outrage around the world.
1:21:35
Outrage.
1:21:36
Explains Grok was and still is creating non
1:21:39
consensual sexualized images, prompting some countries to ban
1:21:43
the bot.
1:21:44
Amna Musk finally began bowing to pressure this
1:21:47
week and announced that X will use geoblocking
1:21:50
to prevent Grok from creating deep fake images
1:21:52
of people in revealing swimsuits, underwear and other
1:21:55
clothing in places where the law prohibits it.
1:21:59
But the move has not stopped the standalone
1:22:01
app known as Grok Imagine from generating explicit
1:22:05
images.
1:22:05
The late changes have not appeased regulators.
1:22:08
And now the governments of Malaysia, Indonesia and
1:22:11
the Philippines have banned the chatbot altogether.
1:22:14
Britain and Canada have launched probes into Grok
1:22:17
and the possibility of penalties for Musk are
1:22:20
on the table.
1:22:21
To help us understand more about Grok's troubles
1:22:24
and why they persist.
1:22:25
I'm joined by Rihanna Pfefferkorn, a policy fellow
1:22:29
at the Stanford Institute.
1:22:31
Wait a minute.
1:22:31
That's just German for peppercorn.
1:22:33
Give me a break.
1:22:34
Exactly right.
1:22:36
I'm joined by Rihanna Pfefferkorn, a policy fellow
1:22:39
at the Stanford Institute for Human Centered Artificial
1:22:42
Intelligence.
1:22:43
Rihanna, thank you for joining us this Friday.
1:22:45
Thank you for having me.
1:22:46
Yeah.
1:22:47
I want to start with what does this
1:22:49
latest series of problems with Grok?
1:22:51
These sexually explicit non consensual images.
1:22:56
What does this tell us of the safety
1:22:58
of women and minors on the Internet?
1:23:01
Oh, man, I love this.
1:23:04
Safety.
1:23:04
No, it's sexual assault.
1:23:06
Doing this is they've changed this into sexual
1:23:09
assault where because I had the I started
1:23:13
talking about this because I fell into that
1:23:16
alcohol because, of course, like it's like, hey,
1:23:19
put a bikini on her.
1:23:20
OK, click.
1:23:20
Oh, OK.
1:23:21
And then you do that.
1:23:22
And then then the feed is filled.
1:23:24
I just I just I haven't even looked
1:23:26
at X for a week because I'm just
1:23:28
like, I'm tired of it because I also
1:23:29
was getting the glass stuff.
1:23:31
I clicked on one of those.
1:23:33
But it starts with women who are putting
1:23:37
up pictures that are explicitly provocative.
1:23:41
Look at me.
1:23:42
Look how good I look.
1:23:44
Look at my butt.
1:23:46
You know, so it's like, you know, go
1:23:48
back to the source.
1:23:49
Look at my butt.
1:23:50
Come on.
1:23:51
That's if you know, if you ever go
1:23:54
out and I never leave the house, I
1:23:57
can't take a chance.
1:23:58
Well, this is just not a scenario for
1:24:00
you.
1:24:00
But, you know, we go out with friends
1:24:02
and like, oh, let's take a picture because
1:24:04
we all look great.
1:24:05
We're all dressed.
1:24:05
So I refuse to take part in these
1:24:07
picture taking sessions.
1:24:08
Right.
1:24:09
But so here's how it works.
1:24:10
You take the picture and then you have
1:24:13
to hand the camera to the women and
1:24:16
they all take the camera, the phone one
1:24:18
by one.
1:24:19
I do pinch, zoom, pinch, zoom.
1:24:21
OK, can you see my neck?
1:24:22
How do I have flabby arms?
1:24:24
How does my butt look?
1:24:26
And then you have to have approval from
1:24:27
everybody for 18 years.
1:24:30
But then it's like and here's the funny
1:24:32
thing.
1:24:34
So this doesn't happen.
1:24:36
It rarely happens that that is like Grok
1:24:38
put a bikini on this ugly woman.
1:24:41
No, it's good looking women.
1:24:45
And Keith Starmer, Keir Starmer.
1:24:48
Because this is not about sexual assault at
1:24:52
all.
1:24:52
This is about shutting down Grok in as
1:24:55
many countries, municipalities, states.
1:24:59
I don't care what.
1:25:00
This is about something else.
1:25:02
Most of these women are probably like, dang,
1:25:06
girl, I look good in the bikini because
1:25:08
it's true.
1:25:10
Now, I mean, I can ask you a
1:25:13
quick, quick question.
1:25:14
Yeah, yeah.
1:25:15
As you're going on and on.
1:25:16
What is the difference between put a bikini
1:25:21
on her and let's go back to 1990.
1:25:25
And I take the head off of somebody
1:25:28
with Photoshop and put it on the bikini
1:25:30
clad model.
1:25:32
And then I post it.
1:25:34
Well, this is good.
1:25:35
Oh, Louise looks great here in her bikini.
1:25:38
The funny what is the difference?
1:25:40
The funny thing is that the women look
1:25:43
great in these bikinis.
1:25:45
That's the difference.
1:25:47
It looks good.
1:25:48
I put the head on a on a
1:25:50
bikini model.
1:25:53
How can they look any better than that?
1:25:56
Well, exactly, because it's not about that.
1:25:59
It's not about that.
1:26:01
If you don't want your picture manipulated with
1:26:05
Photoshop or Grok or what's what's the thing?
1:26:09
What does Gemini have?
1:26:10
Something funny.
1:26:12
It's a bunch of Rama or something.
1:26:14
They have some banana, banana.
1:26:16
There's a load of it.
1:26:17
Yeah.
1:26:17
So, you know, I last night I took
1:26:20
this is OK.
1:26:21
Great example.
1:26:22
So we're we're watching the crown, the series
1:26:26
that we've been doing all of our historical
1:26:28
series.
1:26:30
And and we take a break between episodes
1:26:33
and get something to drink.
1:26:34
And I'm looking at my phone says, well,
1:26:36
you have new capabilities and features on your
1:26:39
phone.
1:26:40
I'm like, oh, all right.
1:26:41
What is this?
1:26:42
And it says you can take a picture.
1:26:44
You can add a picture into a text
1:26:46
message.
1:26:47
Just click on the banana.
1:26:49
I kid you not.
1:26:50
And say what you want to change in
1:26:52
the picture.
1:26:52
So I say, hey, team, let me take
1:26:53
a picture.
1:26:54
Boom.
1:26:54
Take a picture.
1:26:54
And I and I type into it, turn
1:26:57
my wife into a queen within two seconds.
1:27:01
It's fantastic.
1:27:02
She looks like a queen.
1:27:04
She's in a royal room.
1:27:05
She's got the crown on.
1:27:06
She's got the Hermelin, you know, the cape,
1:27:10
everything.
1:27:11
And and she's like, wow, that looks really
1:27:13
good.
1:27:14
I said, you should post this.
1:27:15
No, no, no.
1:27:16
I have to have makeup on.
1:27:17
I'm not going to put this.
1:27:19
You see my point is that.
1:27:22
No, it's not about women.
1:27:24
Feeling abused because women love to have great
1:27:28
pictures of themselves.
1:27:29
If they're this type of woman who post
1:27:31
that, even if it's just sporadically at the
1:27:34
restaurant, it's about shutting down Elon Musk.
1:27:38
That's what it's about.
1:27:42
Now, that's a good point because I will
1:27:45
agree with that because they hate.
1:27:48
I don't know what it is, but everybody
1:27:50
seems to ever since Musk went from being.
1:27:53
This is what happens when you leave a
1:27:55
cult.
1:27:56
Mm hmm.
1:27:57
Musk was a lifelong Democrat.
1:27:59
When I left the Democratic Party, which was
1:28:02
in 1980.
1:28:03
Look what happened.
1:28:05
You became a podcaster.
1:28:06
Where's that career gone?
1:28:08
They killed all your career chances.
1:28:11
The point is, is that there were you
1:28:14
would have to spend years taking grief from
1:28:18
the Democrats because you left the cult and
1:28:21
they would do everything they could.
1:28:23
And then after a while, then it was
1:28:24
just forgotten.
1:28:25
But it takes like a decade to be
1:28:27
forgotten.
1:28:30
And Elon Musk left the call.
1:28:32
The same with Trump.
1:28:33
The Trump is the same.
1:28:35
They hate him.
1:28:35
They real reason he was the same reason
1:28:38
he quit the Democrat Party.
1:28:41
And it was recently more so recently than
1:28:43
me.
1:28:43
Excellent.
1:28:44
And he became a an apostate.
1:28:48
Yeah.
1:28:48
And so he had to be killed.
1:28:50
You know, it's just like that.
1:28:51
But like, there's a cult.
1:28:53
And so you end up with them going
1:28:55
after Musk because he did.
1:28:57
He did the sin of sins, which was
1:28:59
quitting the cult.
1:29:00
But I think you're right.
1:29:02
This is all about Musk.
1:29:03
It's all there is to it.
1:29:04
And that's why they featured it on PBS's
1:29:07
clip, too.
1:29:08
Well, it illustrates that having your image online
1:29:11
or taking a view while you're just out
1:29:13
in public living your life is no longer
1:29:15
safe from being manipulated in order to depict
1:29:18
you in a humiliating and harassing context in
1:29:21
which you never appeared in real life.
1:29:23
That's irrespective of whether you yourself personally may
1:29:26
have an account online, since other people could
1:29:28
post pictures of you or of your child,
1:29:31
even if you don't have the account on
1:29:32
X or on Grok.
1:29:33
By the way, I have never, ever on
1:29:37
Grok seen a sexualized picture of a child
1:29:40
with a put a bikini on it.
1:29:42
I've not seen it.
1:29:43
Neither have I.
1:29:45
Just yesterday, Ashley St. Claire, who is the
1:29:48
mother of one of Elon Musk's children, she
1:29:50
sued Grok, alleging that it was negligent and
1:29:53
allowed users to post deep fakes of her
1:29:56
in explicit poses even after she complained to
1:29:59
the company.
1:30:00
Here's what she told CBS.
1:30:01
Take your pictures off the system.
1:30:05
Hold on a second.
1:30:06
Hold on.
1:30:07
This is a woman scorned, should not be
1:30:10
even on the show.
1:30:11
We cannot.
1:30:13
This is the typical example of PBS leaving
1:30:16
out the other side of the story.
1:30:18
And we did play clips of her when
1:30:20
this first came out.
1:30:21
So we once again are way ahead of
1:30:23
the mainstream.
1:30:25
Grok said, I confirm that you don't consent.
1:30:27
I will no longer produce these images.
1:30:29
And then it continued to produce more and
1:30:32
more images and more and more explicit images.
1:30:34
Now, this is I found this to be
1:30:36
interesting because I saw that I saw that
1:30:38
she posted at Grok.
1:30:40
I do not give my consent.
1:30:42
So somehow, not only is she a woman
1:30:46
scorned, is she in the cult, but she
1:30:50
also has this belief that AI actually has
1:30:53
some intelligence and that you can tell it
1:30:55
that and it will no longer do what
1:30:57
you told it to do.
1:30:59
I mean, do these people read at all
1:31:01
ever about this stuff and its capabilities?
1:31:04
No.
1:31:05
How are these images bypassing Grok's safety systems?
1:31:10
How is this legal?
1:31:12
So it's a great question.
1:31:13
I don't have visibility into what Grok's internal
1:31:16
safety systems are.
1:31:17
It sounds like gradually in response to regulatory
1:31:20
and public pressure, they've been trying to institute
1:31:23
more safeguards.
1:31:24
But it's really difficult to implement effective safeguards
1:31:27
against various kinds of unwanted content.
1:31:29
As we can see playing out from Grok's
1:31:31
own users, users are very creative in how
1:31:34
they try to get around any guardrails that
1:31:36
may have been built in, in order to
1:31:38
continue to generate the kind of content that
1:31:40
even in good faith, a platform may be
1:31:42
trying to inhibit its model from producing.
1:31:44
There's no secret.
1:31:46
All you have to do is being a
1:31:48
paying member.
1:31:48
You can do whatever you want.
1:31:50
They're very creative.
1:31:51
Oh, they're prompt wizards.
1:31:54
No, no, you just say it.
1:31:57
But again, you don't want people putting, you
1:32:01
know, a different head on your head on
1:32:03
someone else's body, or you don't want Grok
1:32:06
putting a bikini on you.
1:32:07
Don't post your pictures.
1:32:10
That is the answer.
1:32:11
You don't have some right, like, I put
1:32:13
it on this thing I pay no money
1:32:14
for and I'm upset they did something with
1:32:16
it.
1:32:17
Come on.
1:32:19
This is, this is, this is ego.
1:32:25
It's, it's, it's unconscionable.
1:32:27
All right, the third clip.
1:32:28
Grok has had other problems in the past
1:32:30
year or so.
1:32:31
There was anti-Semitic tropes that it was
1:32:33
posting, it even praised Hitler.
1:32:35
What is the sense in Silicon Valley and
1:32:38
in the tech community about why Grok is
1:32:41
acting this way and cannot get a hold
1:32:43
of itself?
1:32:44
Then suddenly, suddenly the whole concept of the
1:32:47
freedom of speech that you can say what
1:32:50
you want to, and then I may not
1:32:52
like it, but I will defend it to
1:32:54
the death.
1:32:54
This has been thrown out the window at
1:32:56
PBS.
1:32:57
You know, you may not like what Nick
1:33:00
Fuentes says, but he has the right to
1:33:02
say it.
1:33:02
And you have the right to say something
1:33:04
contrary to what he's saying.
1:33:06
But now, you know, we're slipping into this
1:33:09
area where a large portion of our population
1:33:12
and of the world, in fact, but we,
1:33:16
but we have a constitution with the freedom
1:33:18
of speech, not free speech, freedom of speech.
1:33:22
And these people want it gone in certain
1:33:25
instances.
1:33:25
No.
1:33:26
You know, that's a complicated question.
1:33:29
I would suspect that some part of it
1:33:30
may have to do with what training data
1:33:34
has gone into the model.
1:33:35
It may be that there isn't child abuse
1:33:38
imagery directly underlying the model here for Grok,
1:33:41
but it might be that it was trained
1:33:43
on extremist or Nazi and white supremacist material.
1:33:46
So that might go to account for it.
1:33:48
And I'll note that XAI filed a lawsuit
1:33:50
shortly before New Year's trying to enjoin a
1:33:55
California law that has just gone into effect
1:33:57
that would require AI companies to transparently release
1:34:00
a summary of their data trading sources.
1:34:03
You wrote a New York Times op-ed.
1:34:05
Are you familiar with this California law?
1:34:09
Oh, now I am because they talked about
1:34:11
it on the show, but I haven't heard
1:34:12
about it locally.
1:34:13
So are certain sources going to be foreboding
1:34:17
now?
1:34:17
I mean, that would be the idea.
1:34:19
Anything that would be against the Democrat Party.
1:34:23
That would inhibit the sweep of the midterms.
1:34:30
Remember, what were the top global risks?
1:34:34
Disinformation and misinformation.
1:34:36
By artificial intelligence.
1:34:38
And they're starting here.
1:34:39
Yeah, this is all propaganda.
1:34:41
They're starting here.
1:34:42
You wrote a New York Times op-ed
1:34:44
a few days ago.
1:34:46
It said, quote, there's one easy solution to
1:34:49
the AI porn problem.
1:34:51
In a nutshell, what would that be?
1:34:53
What is the solution here?
1:34:55
Well, I'm not sure that it's as easy
1:34:57
as the headline suggests.
1:34:59
Nevertheless, what I argue in the op-ed
1:35:01
for the Times is that AI researchers and
1:35:05
AI model developers need what we would call
1:35:07
a safe harbor in the law to enable
1:35:09
them to- Hold on a second.
1:35:11
This poor mother who feels sexually abused seems
1:35:17
to be somewhat of a well-informed activist.
1:35:21
She's not just some dummy off the street.
1:35:24
She knows all about how it's done, training
1:35:26
models.
1:35:27
She knows about laws.
1:35:29
You're talking about the one person being interviewed?
1:35:32
Yeah, isn't she still the Elon lady?
1:35:35
Or is it someone else?
1:35:37
No, no, no.
1:35:38
The Elon lady is long gone.
1:35:39
This is the person from Stanford who was
1:35:42
a lesbian.
1:35:44
I don't even think she's a mother.
1:35:46
And she's giving us a long lecture on
1:35:48
this.
1:35:48
And she obviously didn't write the headline on
1:35:50
that New York Times piece because people-
1:35:52
Writers don't write headlines.
1:35:53
Well, okay.
1:35:54
People have to remember that.
1:35:55
Let's continue with the sinner.
1:35:56
Better test image generation models for their capacity
1:36:00
to produce potentially illegal content without themselves fearing
1:36:03
prosecution for trying in good faith to better
1:36:06
safeguard those models.
1:36:08
Yeah, I thought that was particularly interesting.
1:36:10
Can you talk a little bit about what
1:36:12
that means?
1:36:12
Those red teams and how AI researchers basically
1:36:16
work on this right now.
1:36:18
So red teaming is the practice of basically
1:36:21
trying to act like a malicious user would
1:36:23
and try and attack your model every which
1:36:26
way to see if you can figure out
1:36:27
what exploits may be latent, what loopholes are
1:36:31
there.
1:36:31
And then you can try and close those
1:36:33
holes in order to make the product safer
1:36:35
and keep actual bad actors from misusing those
1:36:38
potential loopholes.
1:36:40
All right.
1:36:40
So this is, I think we've determined this
1:36:43
is just the first shot across the bow
1:36:45
to shut down public use of artificial intelligence
1:36:50
with distribution.
1:36:53
I would say it's AI with distribution is
1:36:55
what they are worried about.
1:36:57
That'll be the top topic in between skiing
1:37:00
at Davos.
1:37:02
And when it comes to the United Kingdom,
1:37:05
I would say that what is happening right
1:37:09
now in the past 10 days is part
1:37:12
of the reason they want to shut this
1:37:13
down.
1:37:14
Are you familiar with Amelia Rose?
1:37:18
I don't know.
1:37:19
Okay.
1:37:20
So I got a quick explainer, but not
1:37:23
really that quick.
1:37:25
By the way, you're violating your own rule.
1:37:28
What did I do?
1:37:29
You said Davos.
1:37:31
Oh, Davos.
1:37:32
I'm sorry.
1:37:34
Thank you for correcting me.
1:37:36
Davos.
1:37:36
Yes.
1:37:37
Well, I'll get back into it once we
1:37:40
start getting asymmetric information from Davos.
1:37:46
This is the Joy Heretic, a YouTuber, explaining
1:37:50
the Amelia phenomenon.
1:37:52
I assume that you know what the Amelia
1:37:54
phenomenon is.
1:37:55
Just in case you don't, perhaps you're American
1:37:57
or something, there is a video, a computer
1:37:59
game essentially, that's been put out by a
1:38:01
group called Prevent, which aims to prevent young
1:38:03
people getting involved in terrorism, but actually focuses
1:38:06
on preventing young people from getting involved in
1:38:07
what it calls the dangerous far right.
1:38:11
And the computer game is called Pathways.
1:38:13
In that computer game, you can choose to
1:38:14
be Charlie a boy or Charlie a girl.
1:38:17
And you meet a girl called Amelia.
1:38:20
And Amelia basically encourages you to get involved
1:38:24
in things like saving your country and stopping
1:38:28
grooming gangs and protesting against fake refugees and
1:38:32
all of this sort of thing.
1:38:33
Amelia is a girl that you meet at
1:38:35
your sixth form college, where the other people
1:38:37
are very sensibly and normally and boringly dressed,
1:38:40
and Amelia isn't.
1:38:42
Now, why has this become such a phenomenon
1:38:44
from an evolutionary perspective?
1:38:46
It has taken off so much.
1:38:47
And of course it has.
1:38:49
Of course it has.
1:38:49
She is now the new symbol of being
1:38:53
based, the new symbol of being on the
1:38:56
far right or the base right or red
1:38:58
pilled or whatever you want to call it.
1:39:00
You've got amazing videos that have been made
1:39:02
about her.
1:39:02
She's now a cult figure.
1:39:04
And it's happened due to AI technology and
1:39:06
so forth in only about a week.
1:39:09
What is it about her?
1:39:11
Why has this been such a miscalculation on
1:39:16
the part of those that made the game?
1:39:18
What were they trying to do?
1:39:20
Well, they're trying to make Amelia out to
1:39:25
be this evil, nasty, untrustworthy kind of person.
1:39:30
And they are projecting onto the right, basically,
1:39:34
onto those whom they oppose their own qualities.
1:39:37
So what has happened, I think you understand
1:39:40
what his setup was there.
1:39:41
So yeah, I have a peripheral knowledge of
1:39:45
this.
1:39:45
So I'm just going to play some of
1:39:47
the audio, I cut it way down because,
1:39:50
of course, with AI and so now the
1:39:52
anime is going because she's kind of the
1:39:54
whole thing is kind of anime-ish, although
1:39:58
it's a little more life form realistic than
1:40:01
anime.
1:40:02
And they've programmed it to do this.
1:40:05
Hi, I'm Amelia.
1:40:07
And she looks like all of the like
1:40:11
16, 17 year old girls when we were
1:40:14
living in Guilford, Christina's friends.
1:40:17
And they have, you know, a skirt on
1:40:19
and they have cute little socks.
1:40:22
And, you know, they got their little flat
1:40:23
shoes.
1:40:24
She's got pink hair, a cute girl.
1:40:26
Hi, I'm Amelia.
1:40:28
I'm English.
1:40:29
And I love England.
1:40:31
I like having fish and chips and a
1:40:33
pint at the local pub.
1:40:34
I like Shakespeare and Dickens, Tolkien and Lewis,
1:40:38
Harry Potter.
1:40:39
I like pork sausage and dogs and fashion.
1:40:44
Haram!
1:40:46
Haram!
1:40:47
But I don't like that.
1:40:50
Brits are famously polite, but it mustn't mean
1:40:53
we're willing to commit cultural suicide.
1:40:54
Our institutions, the Church of England, the BBC
1:40:58
are a bunch of queers and nonces.
1:41:00
How the bloody hell did we go from
1:41:02
Churchill to you, you git?
1:41:04
Sadiq Khan, the mayor.
1:41:05
This is London, mate, not Afghanistan or Star
1:41:08
Wars.
1:41:09
Our government won't even protect our schoolgirls from
1:41:11
grooming gangs.
1:41:12
Sod off, packy wankers!
1:41:14
Police won't help.
1:41:15
They're too busy confiscating garden tools and suppressing
1:41:18
free speech.
1:41:19
That's right, miss.
1:41:20
What have I done, officer?
1:41:22
You've tweeted rudely and you're under arrest.
1:41:25
Curry is fine, but we have several recipes
1:41:27
already.
1:41:28
We don't need two million Indians here to
1:41:29
make it for us.
1:41:30
There are 50 Islamic nations in the world.
1:41:33
Muslims don't need to be on our island.
1:41:35
They want to conquer it.
1:41:36
The government says it must be this way.
1:41:38
That doesn't make it right, does it, Robin
1:41:40
Hood?
1:41:40
These dragons that threaten our England won't go
1:41:43
away unless brave knights rise up to slay
1:41:46
them.
1:41:46
Or did all the British bloodlines with any
1:41:48
bollocks get killed off in World Wars I
1:41:51
and II?
1:41:52
Englishmen, it's your country and it's being taken
1:41:55
from you.
1:41:56
Chav, posh, doesn't matter.
1:41:59
We're already all in this together.
1:42:01
I don't want this to be the future
1:42:02
of the women of England, and I'm sure
1:42:04
the women of Iran and Afghanistan didn't want
1:42:06
it either.
1:42:06
Your ancestors beat the Spanish Armada, Napoleon, and
1:42:10
the Nazis.
1:42:11
Surely you can handle welfare tourists.
1:42:13
History will record what you do or don't
1:42:15
do.
1:42:15
Get cracking, lads.
1:42:17
Love, Amelia.
1:42:18
It's really the digital version of the Guy
1:42:20
Fawkes mask, but it is powerful.
1:42:23
It is powerful.
1:42:24
I saw this.
1:42:25
I didn't clip it, but I saw this
1:42:27
video.
1:42:27
And it's just a little better than anime.
1:42:30
Yeah, so I said it's lifelike anime.
1:42:32
It's very AI life.
1:42:38
I don't understand what's going on insofar as,
1:42:43
are they thinking that this is going to
1:42:45
repel people?
1:42:46
Or it's supposed to have the opposite effect?
1:42:50
No, hold on, hold on, hold on.
1:42:52
The game that this is based on was
1:42:55
supposed to repel people from Amelia, but they
1:42:58
took Amelia and turned her into a superhero,
1:43:01
saying all the things— the right, the Tommy
1:43:06
Robinson— Who in the right did this?
1:43:08
Well, I don't know who did this, but
1:43:10
this is online.
1:43:11
You could have made it.
1:43:12
I could have made it.
1:43:13
Now everyone's making these videos of Amelia, and
1:43:16
Amelia is a pro-English girl who is
1:43:20
saying, get out with all this nonsense.
1:43:22
Right, get out of town.
1:43:23
It's the exact opposite of what her character
1:43:26
was meant to be in this game.
1:43:29
So you can just see these numbnuts going,
1:43:31
I know how to reach the young people.
1:43:33
We need to repel them from this type
1:43:35
of thinking with a game.
1:43:37
And you'll be— Well, that was a screw
1:43:39
up.
1:43:40
Exactly.
1:43:41
So back to Davos.
1:43:43
They are deathly afraid of what is now
1:43:46
possible with AI for mnemology, mnemonic warfare.
1:43:52
That's what this is.
1:43:53
And they're losing mnemonic warfare.
1:43:55
You like that, huh?
1:43:56
Yeah.
1:43:57
It's fifth generation warfare, man.
1:44:00
That's from down the street, my neighbor.
1:44:05
Man.
1:44:06
That's general.
1:44:06
Is that the guy with the dogs or
1:44:08
the guy with the wild kids?
1:44:10
Both.
1:44:11
It's the same guy he's talking about.
1:44:14
It's the same guy.
1:44:16
Yeah, and it's out of hand.
1:44:19
So now everybody is making— Amelia is doing
1:44:21
everything.
1:44:22
She's plowing down people.
1:44:23
They don't— The Brits are sick of it.
1:44:26
They're sick of it.
1:44:28
And the only power they have, apparently, is
1:44:31
to do this.
1:44:32
Although I remember in the 70s, we saw
1:44:34
those thin farmers coming down from the north
1:44:37
with their literal pitchforks.
1:44:40
It was a little different scenario.
1:44:43
But they don't want it.
1:44:45
They're done with it.
1:44:47
I don't think it's reversible.
1:44:48
You're an optimist.
1:44:51
No, I believe— This, to me, is nothing
1:44:54
more than sublimation.
1:44:56
Sublimation?
1:44:57
Yeah, sublimation.
1:44:58
The idea that you push this out there,
1:45:01
which is good material, and you say, I
1:45:04
feel a lot better now.
1:45:05
And then you don't do nothing.
1:45:07
Well, I believe there's other forces at play
1:45:10
than just the people.
1:45:11
I mean, I believe in a different system.
1:45:13
Yeah, well, you can think that all you
1:45:14
want.
1:45:14
Until I see some action, some change— I
1:45:18
didn't say think.
1:45:18
I said I believe.
1:45:20
That's different.
1:45:21
You can believe what you want.
1:45:23
Until I see the actual change, nothing's— This
1:45:29
is sublimation.
1:45:30
It's a classic example.
1:45:32
And it works great because you feel like,
1:45:34
oh, this is terrific.
1:45:37
Awakening has taken place, and then that's as
1:45:41
far as you go.
1:45:42
I don't see where it's getting anyone riled
1:45:45
up.
1:45:45
Well, they're clearly worried about it.
1:45:47
Otherwise, it wouldn't be the top of the
1:45:49
agenda.
1:45:50
You know, I think historically, you do eventually
1:45:53
push people too far.
1:45:55
I think witness Iran.
1:45:57
Now, I don't know if anything's going to
1:46:00
change there.
1:46:01
We're certainly not going to do it.
1:46:03
But by the way, I love— President Trump
1:46:07
turned on a dime, went, nah, I'm not
1:46:09
going to do anything.
1:46:10
And all of the podcasters, all of the
1:46:13
anti-war podcasters who have been yelling for
1:46:17
years, Trump is in on it.
1:46:19
He's just another neocon.
1:46:21
You're going to be in more foreign wars.
1:46:25
Look at him.
1:46:26
He's going to be the same.
1:46:27
It's all going to be the same.
1:46:28
But when he turns down the opportunity to
1:46:32
do anything, you never hear them say, wow,
1:46:35
that was great.
1:46:35
He stepped away from it.
1:46:36
That's awesome.
1:46:37
No, because they're secretly Trump haters.
1:46:40
It's not about anti-war.
1:46:42
They hate Trump.
1:46:43
And they love likes and clicks and views
1:46:46
and money.
1:46:47
Dave Smith.
1:46:49
Everybody loves money.
1:46:51
Oh, no.
1:46:52
It's not the first thing I love.
1:46:54
It's just not.
1:46:55
I didn't say it was the first thing
1:46:57
everyone loved.
1:46:58
Did I?
1:46:58
I said everyone loves money.
1:47:00
You have to have money to pay the
1:47:01
bills.
1:47:02
We have bills that need paying.
1:47:04
Everybody likes money.
1:47:05
This show has bills that need paying.
1:47:08
OK.
1:47:09
But I— That was a cue.
1:47:11
No, but before you go there, I don't
1:47:17
do this show for money.
1:47:20
That's kind of what I'm saying.
1:47:21
I'm doing this show for other— I like
1:47:23
it.
1:47:23
I like doing the show.
1:47:26
Yeah, well, we both like doing the show.
1:47:28
It's not—it's the first reason.
1:47:31
If I didn't like it, I'd go do
1:47:32
something else.
1:47:35
The public service is what we're doing.
1:47:38
But it still—it results in bills.
1:47:42
We have our own servers because— We have
1:47:45
to have our own servers.
1:47:46
OK, I got the cue, all right.
1:47:48
I got it.
1:47:48
We'll go to the donation section.
1:47:51
With that, I want to thank you for
1:47:52
your courage.
1:47:53
In the morning to you, the man who
1:47:54
put the C in leaving the cult.
1:47:56
Say hello to your friend on the other
1:47:58
end and mine as well, John C.
1:48:01
DeMora.
1:48:05
Hi.
1:48:06
Good morning to you, Mr. Adam Curry.
1:48:07
Good morning as well.
1:48:09
$20.50. Three points on the graph.
1:48:11
BDSM's in the water.
1:48:12
All the dames and knights out there.
1:48:13
In the morning to the trolls in the
1:48:14
troll room.
1:48:15
Let's do it.
1:48:18
I could barely hear the troll count over
1:48:21
your noisemakers there.
1:48:23
We have peak trollage, 1,922.
1:48:27
I'm always amazed at that many people.
1:48:29
I'm amazed.
1:48:30
People who— You want to know what the
1:48:32
high mark was?
1:48:33
Oh, 2,800.
1:48:34
No, 4,000, I think, at some point.
1:48:36
Yeah, over 4,000.
1:48:37
Yeah, well, so?
1:48:40
And what were the circumstances of that?
1:48:43
I think World War III was about to
1:48:45
break out.
1:48:47
That's exactly right.
1:48:48
Then, you know, people are like, let me
1:48:50
see.
1:48:51
It's Sunday.
1:48:52
Is World War III breaking out?
1:48:56
No, it's not breaking out, so let's go
1:48:58
do something.
1:48:58
I'll listen to it tomorrow.
1:49:00
I'll listen to it tomorrow.
1:49:02
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Close it and then just wait until we
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But that is all part of the podcasting
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2.0 initiative.
1:49:43
Another thing I do, not for the money.
1:49:45
Actually, not for the money.
1:49:47
There's no money.
1:49:48
I just do it for the love and
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a public service.
1:49:52
And we do this value for value, which
1:49:55
is just a wonderful way to work.
1:49:58
We don't have a job.
1:49:59
We create.
1:50:01
We are creators of value.
1:50:03
We are convinced, and apparently other people are
1:50:06
as well, that what we do has value.
1:50:09
And all we say is, did you get
1:50:11
something out of this?
1:50:12
Is there something you can talk to your
1:50:14
neighbor about?
1:50:15
Something you can say to your sister or
1:50:17
your mom or your friend?
1:50:20
Is it something that, did you learn something?
1:50:22
You feel better about it?
1:50:23
Do you feel like you can look at
1:50:25
the world and go, nothing new under the
1:50:28
sun.
1:50:30
And maybe you heard a good joke or
1:50:31
two.
1:50:32
Then send something back to us.
1:50:34
Time, talent, or treasure.
1:50:36
And you can participate in many ways.
1:50:38
One of the big things, and this is
1:50:39
important, is hitting people in the mouth.
1:50:41
That is our formula.
1:50:42
It has been for over 18 years.
1:50:44
Tell somebody about the show.
1:50:46
There's no discovery mechanism.
1:50:48
There's no name recognition that makes a show
1:50:53
listenable, you know, that people listen to the
1:50:55
show.
1:50:55
This is not like YouTube, where you click
1:50:58
on one video, or like X, and all
1:51:00
of a sudden you get in all kinds
1:51:01
of smashing window videos.
1:51:03
No, that's not how it works.
1:51:04
People will take that recommendation from you.
1:51:07
And that is how you build up No
1:51:09
Agenda Nation.
1:51:10
That's a great way to help us out.
1:51:12
It really is.
1:51:13
Other ways is creating end-of-show mixes.
1:51:16
I did no AI end-of-show mixes
1:51:19
for today.
1:51:20
And the simple reason, because they're no good.
1:51:23
They're just no good.
1:51:24
And you know what?
1:51:26
So here's, here's...
1:51:26
People that are good?
1:51:27
No, no, those aren't AI.
1:51:29
Those are old.
1:51:30
Those are old.
1:51:31
No, no, not today.
1:51:32
I'm saying, generally speaking, we've heard good AI
1:51:35
songs.
1:51:35
When they're toe tappers, when it's a big
1:51:37
band, those sound pretty good.
1:51:39
But now people are getting, you know, because
1:51:40
now that I've played a few, they like
1:51:42
do a whole song with lyrics.
1:51:43
Unless the lyrics are on the screen, which
1:51:45
is how you're viewing your song, it's not
1:51:48
interpretable.
1:51:49
That's a song that is a hit song.
1:51:51
It's not just because you put snappy lyrics
1:51:54
to it.
1:51:55
It takes a certain magic that you're just
1:51:57
not creating with AI.
1:51:58
And here's, here's why I stopped playing.
1:52:01
Unless it's exceptionally good, and there's some hook
1:52:04
that really grabs me, it's off the table.
1:52:07
And it happened because, here you go again,
1:52:10
I hit, there's one lady on X, and
1:52:12
she posts videos of bands from the 70s,
1:52:16
80s.
1:52:17
And it's always like, do you know the
1:52:18
song?
1:52:19
Do you know the band?
1:52:19
And usually just by looking at them, I'm
1:52:21
like, oh, I know exactly who that is.
1:52:22
And I tap on it.
1:52:23
I'm like, oh yeah, that's a great song.
1:52:25
And I, I hit one because I knew
1:52:28
who it was.
1:52:29
It was Candy Dolpher playing saxophone.
1:52:33
She played with Prince and Dire Straits and
1:52:35
Mark Knopfler.
1:52:36
And, and I was just listening to it.
1:52:39
And I'm hearing, she's kind of playing with
1:52:42
the, you know, there's electric guitar and he's
1:52:44
playing.
1:52:45
And then she goes.
1:52:48
And like no AI has ever achieved that.
1:52:52
It's so beautiful.
1:52:54
And it completely turned me sour on all
1:52:57
the AI stuff, completely.
1:52:59
It's like, no, it's, it's not music anymore.
1:53:03
It's no good.
1:53:04
And the same, and the same.
1:53:07
What a bigot.
1:53:10
No, bigot.
1:53:11
It's, it's, it doesn't do anything for my
1:53:13
soul.
1:53:14
It just doesn't.
1:53:16
And likewise, you know, when it comes to
1:53:18
art, we have so much, what's all AI,
1:53:22
but actually what a comic strip blogger did,
1:53:25
his second in a row, by the way,
1:53:27
for episode 1834, which he titled Swarm Forge.
1:53:31
This could have been done with Photoshop.
1:53:35
And it's Fat JD.
1:53:38
Kind of like a Pulp Fiction pose with
1:53:41
a revolver saying, Gibby Greenland.
1:53:44
And it was, and I think it was
1:53:45
because of its simplicity and that it could
1:53:48
have just been, I mean, yeah, Fat JD.
1:53:50
I mean, you can, you can make a
1:53:51
Fat JD with, with Photoshop, you know, just
1:53:55
expand.
1:53:57
And you can also cut and paste a
1:53:58
million Fat JDs that are out there.
1:54:00
That's what you did.
1:54:01
Yeah.
1:54:02
Well, I mean, this was clearly AI generated.
1:54:05
You're sure it could have been Photoshop?
1:54:08
It's a comic strip blogger.
1:54:09
Like you said.
1:54:10
It's comic strip blogger.
1:54:11
It's AI.
1:54:12
Yeah, what you're accusing him of right there
1:54:15
is that he's only AI now.
1:54:18
He is.
1:54:18
He calls himself the AI arch wizard.
1:54:21
Yeah, you didn't know that.
1:54:24
I did not know that.
1:54:25
Okay.
1:54:26
So I, that's why I know it's AI.
1:54:27
Does he do arches?
1:54:28
Does he do a lot of landscape stuff
1:54:30
that has a lot of arches?
1:54:32
Is that why he called himself that?
1:54:33
No, no.
1:54:35
I believe he just thinks he is really
1:54:38
good at AI.
1:54:39
And so that was the only one that
1:54:41
was any good.
1:54:42
He thinks.
1:54:43
He thinks he's good.
1:54:45
Oh, he is.
1:54:45
He.
1:54:46
Yeah, yeah.
1:54:47
He makes his money with it.
1:54:48
That wasn't me that said that.
1:54:50
He makes his money with it.
1:54:51
So does he?
1:54:53
Yes, I believe he is an AI engineer.
1:54:56
Oh, okay.
1:54:57
Good for him.
1:54:57
Yeah.
1:54:58
And so we don't even need to discuss
1:55:00
anything because the rest was just AI slop
1:55:02
that we didn't choose.
1:55:03
So that means we can go straight.
1:55:06
Oh, no agenda art generator.com for all
1:55:09
your AI slop.
1:55:10
But we do give preferential treatment to things
1:55:12
that don't look like AI slop.
1:55:15
Which brings us to our producers who support
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us with a third T, treasure, time, talent
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and treasure.
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Sending us value.
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Clearly, some people think we're very, very valuable.
1:55:29
I mean, it's amazing when I see this
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list sometimes like, wow, I just love that
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people do this.
1:55:34
And we thank everybody $50 and above.
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Not under 50 for reasons of anonymity.
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There's still people who just want to give
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money or you're on a layaway program.
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We encourage and appreciate that.
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Noagendadonations.com.
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You can do it any way you want,
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anytime you want, for any reason.
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We love numerology.
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And Zarin Denzel.
1:55:54
Zarin Denzel.
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He's new, I think.
1:55:57
He comes in with $1,111.11 from
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Port Townsend, Washington.
1:56:04
Oh, he says, haven't donated in a while.
1:56:07
To let you guys know how much I
1:56:08
appreciate the best podcast in the universe.
1:56:10
Please give me a double deduces.
1:56:14
You've been deduced.
1:56:15
Do we do double deduces?
1:56:17
Seems like, should we?
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There's no reason for it.
1:56:20
Well, I'll do it.
1:56:22
You've been deduced.
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And of course, he becomes an executive producer
1:56:27
of episode 1835.
1:56:31
And in this segment, we thank everybody who
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donates $300 and above.
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You become an executive producer.
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It's a real credit.
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You can use it on imdb.com.
1:56:38
Apparently, some people are automatically entered on imdb
1:56:41
.com when you become an executive.
1:56:43
There's somebody out there that is dogging it
1:56:46
and doing it for us, or them.
1:56:48
I don't know if that's a bad thing,
1:56:49
necessarily.
1:56:50
I don't think it's a bad thing.
1:56:51
It keeps people from having to do it
1:56:53
themselves.
1:56:53
As long as they keep updating it for
1:56:55
everybody.
1:56:56
And Dana Brunetti mentioned in his last note
1:56:59
that he did not donate on his behalf.
1:57:02
It was a Scott Adams donation.
1:57:04
We have to change it in the credits.
1:57:06
Oh, okay.
1:57:07
Because he said that he would never deign
1:57:11
to become an associate.
1:57:15
Just for backgrounders out there, Dana Brunetti is
1:57:17
a real...
1:57:18
Yeah, the House of Cards.
1:57:20
A real famous Hollywood producer.
1:57:21
Fifty Shades of Grey, movies, television.
1:57:26
A lot of movies other than that.
1:57:28
He's done all kinds of stuff.
1:57:29
He made all his money from Shades of
1:57:31
Grey, but he did a lot of quality
1:57:33
work.
1:57:33
More highbrow stuff, yes.
1:57:34
So, his thesis is the following, just for
1:57:39
people out there.
1:57:41
Executive producer is a real title in Hollywood.
1:57:43
It means you have something to do with
1:57:45
the movie in one way, shape, or form.
1:57:46
Usually, at least finance maybe is part of
1:57:48
it.
1:57:49
Which is what we use it for.
1:57:51
Associate executive producer, as far as he is
1:57:55
concerned, at the Hollywood level, it's the guy
1:57:59
who gets coffee.
1:58:00
It's a secretary.
1:58:02
It's somebody you hire and you say, what
1:58:05
title would you like?
1:58:06
And you give them a phony baloney title.
1:58:08
It's like executive vice president at a bank.
1:58:11
Everybody's an EVP at the bank.
1:58:14
You're a teller one minute and they won't
1:58:17
give you a raise.
1:58:18
EVP.
1:58:18
So, you become EVP.
1:58:19
I will say at MTV, when I first
1:58:21
got there, because we didn't have those terms
1:58:23
when I was doing television in Holland.
1:58:26
And the AP is what they were called,
1:58:29
the associate producer.
1:58:31
Was literally the person who got my coffee.
1:58:34
But they were also the people I loved
1:58:36
the most.
1:58:37
Because they were always taking good care of
1:58:39
me.
1:58:40
So, you know, it goes to the lovable
1:58:41
group.
1:58:42
So, you should take that into account, even
1:58:44
though he I'm sure.
1:58:48
This coffee is not hot enough.
1:58:50
What do you know better than this?
1:58:52
No, well, that would be you.
1:58:54
But in my APs, they always had the
1:58:57
lunch ready for me.
1:58:58
They knew exactly what I needed.
1:59:00
They make sure.
1:59:01
Oh, hold on a second.
1:59:02
I think we should stop.
1:59:03
He's a little bit.
1:59:03
His forehead's a little shiny.
1:59:05
That is what an AP.
1:59:06
That's an AP who you love.
1:59:09
And when you love them, they love you
1:59:11
back.
1:59:11
So, they are very important to me in
1:59:13
my television career experience.
1:59:19
Onward with Steve Banstra.
1:59:22
Oh, 53, sir.
1:59:23
Yes, he's back.
1:59:24
Yes, sir.
1:59:25
BNA.
1:59:26
Yes.
1:59:27
453 19.
1:59:30
ITM boys, well, I haven't been overboard.
1:59:33
I am behind on episodes and returning value.
1:59:36
A lot of other, it says here, stuff,
1:59:41
shitty stuff stuff has been consuming my time.
1:59:45
Here's three, three, three for my annual AP
1:59:48
donation.
1:59:48
Plus 59 93 plus something times times times
1:59:52
two for the over easy EGGS.
1:59:56
Oh, the eggs, the three.
1:59:58
Hey, he's got a space there with a
2:00:00
dot or something.
2:00:01
Three, three, nine, nine, five golden shower donations.
2:00:04
The way I read it.
2:00:05
No, that I missed on November and December.
2:00:08
Thanks for the keeping up the deconstruction.
2:00:14
Even when other things consume your time.
2:00:17
Jingles, please.
2:00:18
Boogity boogity and F cancer.
2:00:19
He's got an F cancer.
2:00:20
And there's probably something chewing up his time.
2:00:22
I'm sure there's something on the prayer list,
2:00:24
brother.
2:00:37
You've got karma.
2:00:38
Sorry, I didn't mean to cut you off
2:00:40
there.
2:00:41
It's okay, Steve.
2:00:43
Thank you very much, brother.
2:00:44
Joseph Pinto, Brookhaven, Georgia, $333 and 33 cents.
2:00:49
Executive producer credit for you.
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I see no note.
2:00:51
Therefore, you get a double up karma.
2:00:53
You've got karma.
2:00:58
Samuel Barrett in Vernon Rockwell, Connecticut.
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That's horse country.
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Horse country.
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Three, three, three, three, three.
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He's becoming a knight.
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And he sent a note.
2:01:13
He said this came in as a check.
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And he said a note.
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In the morning, John C and Atom.
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I apologize for assuming John was Tom Sawyer
2:01:26
and Adam.
2:01:26
I listened to the show where you guys
2:01:29
switched up to 50s and above, but was
2:01:31
still convinced John had a crafty trick up
2:01:33
his sleeve because that's the way he is.
2:01:36
Being an elder millennial, young Gen Xer, born
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29th September, 1980.
2:01:42
For anyone interested in giving him a gift.
2:01:45
And he says for the birthday list.
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No, we don't have a birthday list.
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Hello.
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You got to email us notes at no
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agenda show dot net.
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At the time.
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Yes.
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That yes.
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The day we're not.
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The day before the show.
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The bookkeep for anybody.
2:01:59
No, I'm well aware of what a book
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looks like.
2:02:02
And even have visited Mark Twain's house in
2:02:04
Hartford, Connecticut, multiple times.
2:02:06
However, I can see how you two would
2:02:08
think the world has forgotten the classics with
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all the tick tock insanity you subjected yourself.
2:02:13
Yes, I do think so.
2:02:14
I think the vast majority is not read
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those books.
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Prove me wrong.
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And I would agree with Adam, whether or
2:02:23
not there is even tick tock in existence.
2:02:26
Nobody reads anything.
2:02:27
They get a Chromebook.
2:02:29
They don't even get books anymore.
2:02:31
Yeah, I know.
2:02:32
And they can't read.
2:02:35
After my last great big boobs donation, this
2:02:38
will put me over the top for a
2:02:39
knighthood.
2:02:39
I like to be knighted, Sir Sammy B
2:02:41
of the Eastern Skies and have Mexican Coke,
2:02:44
by the way, which all Coke will be.
2:02:46
Yep, it's coming.
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Lefsy and Krum Cocky or whatever that is.
2:02:51
Bukkake.
2:02:52
No, Krum Cake.
2:02:53
Bukkake.
2:02:53
Krum Cake.
2:02:54
Krum Cocky.
2:02:55
Krum Cock.
2:02:56
Krum Cake.
2:02:57
I think it's Krum Cake.
2:02:57
Krum Cake.
2:02:58
Yes.
2:02:59
Okay, well, that's not the way he spells
2:03:01
it.
2:03:01
I request some shape-shifting juice and karma
2:03:05
for all.
2:03:06
Please keep doing a bang up job for
2:03:09
their foreseeable future, Samuel Barrett.
2:03:33
You've got karma.
2:03:37
All right, Samuel.
2:03:39
We go to Ellie Pollack, St. Augustine, Florida.
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First Associate Executive Producer title for the show
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with a row of ducks, 222.22. Hello,
2:03:49
John and Adam.
2:03:49
Long-time listener, first-time donor.
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A de-douching is certainly in order.
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You've been de-douched.
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I have been listening since your first JRE
2:04:01
appearance, as you used to say, but not
2:04:04
often enough anymore.
2:04:06
Rogan Donation.
2:04:07
Actually, I should have brought it out of
2:04:10
the closet.
2:04:10
Here we go.
2:04:15
Rogan Donation.
2:04:18
All right.
2:04:19
I've been meaning to jump on the monthly
2:04:21
donation of 11.11, but just have not
2:04:23
made it happen until now.
2:04:24
So with that said, here's 222.22 donation.
2:04:26
I start my monthly support of 11.11
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to the best podcast in the universe.
2:04:30
Please add this donation to your Jew donation
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list.
2:04:33
You mean Jew money.
2:04:34
Let's get it straight.
2:04:35
We are out here and we're listening.
2:04:37
Good.
2:04:42
There she is.
2:04:43
A few months ago, you shared a tip
2:04:45
of the day for a burn cream called
2:04:47
Ching Wan Hung, which I purchased and put
2:04:49
in my emergency kit.
2:04:50
Yes, this was my tip of the day.
2:04:52
Well, a few weeks ago, my four-year
2:04:53
-old daughter took the initiative to rekindle our
2:04:56
burn pile, which resulted in a hot coal
2:04:59
in the top of her shoe where it
2:05:00
stuck.
2:05:01
Ow.
2:05:01
Ow.
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She ended up with a pretty nasty secondary
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degree burn.
2:05:06
We used the cream for two weeks.
2:05:08
Wow.
2:05:09
Typically, you put it on and well, it
2:05:12
sounds like she was really badly burned until
2:05:13
the blister opened and we could not anymore
2:05:15
and had great results.
2:05:17
Oh, she'll be left with a small scar.
2:05:19
A good reminder not to try such shenanigans
2:05:21
again.
2:05:22
The doctor was very impressed with how nicely
2:05:24
it's healed.
2:05:25
Thank you for the recommendation.
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Saving children's toes for 18 years, ladies and
2:05:30
gentlemen.
2:05:31
And finally, thank you for your years of
2:05:33
decoding the news and the culture.
2:05:35
We thoroughly enjoy listening to No Agenda and
2:05:37
can't recommend it enough.
2:05:38
Keep at it.
2:05:39
Four more years, says Ellie Pollack.
2:05:43
Oh, sweet.
2:05:44
Yes, very nice.
2:05:45
Sir Tim in Overland Park, Kansas, 222.22,
2:05:51
from Sir Tim, I had completely missed that
2:05:55
Adam was doing a podcast with Pastor Jimmy.
2:06:00
It's called the I would do a podcast
2:06:02
together until J.C.D. started bitching about
2:06:07
Adam.
2:06:10
Reusing content, bitching about him, reusing content.
2:06:13
Yes, he did that again today, by the
2:06:15
way.
2:06:16
What are your what did I do?
2:06:19
You said on the on the Pastor Jimmy
2:06:21
show, we get to do this.
2:06:23
Yes, we get to do this.
2:06:24
It's called we get to do this.
2:06:26
It's called this.
2:06:27
We get to do this.
2:06:28
God, the world.
2:06:28
Now, who's on first?
2:06:32
What did I reuse?
2:06:34
That Trump is going to go before Davos
2:06:38
and give his terms of surrender.
2:06:42
Oh, well, I didn't come up with that,
2:06:44
actually.
2:06:44
That's I stole that from Tom Luongo, from
2:06:47
Gold Goats and Goats.
2:06:49
You stole material and played it on a
2:06:51
religious podcast?
2:06:53
Religious.
2:06:54
It's just two guys.
2:06:55
It's not a religious podcast.
2:06:57
But for FYI, J.C.D. needs to
2:07:00
lay off on the tirades.
2:07:03
Does that include the one I did today
2:07:05
about the Logan Act?
2:07:07
No, only tirades against me.
2:07:11
Mimi says the same thing.
2:07:14
He comes off like a complete dick.
2:07:17
It goes off, which is exactly what Mimi
2:07:20
said.
2:07:21
What's interesting?
2:07:22
Don't pick on him in his podcast.
2:07:24
And let's do this podcast, podcast, whatever it's
2:07:28
called.
2:07:29
We do this together.
2:07:30
We get to do this.
2:07:31
We get to do this.
2:07:32
You can say it wrong as often as
2:07:34
you like.
2:07:36
It's fine.
2:07:37
We've never had so many listeners.
2:07:39
It's highly appreciated.
2:07:40
Yeah, you're going to be swamped with listeners.
2:07:43
You know, some people feel that you're jealous
2:07:44
of me and Jimmy, and I don't want
2:07:46
you to feel that way.
2:07:48
I don't want you to feel that.
2:07:49
Well, no, but I will tell you what
2:07:52
irked me.
2:07:53
Okay.
2:07:54
When you threw the substack column as my
2:07:58
doing repurposing, which is true because they repurpose
2:08:02
a lot of stuff in that column that
2:08:04
we talk about on the show, but it's
2:08:05
after this.
2:08:06
It's always after we've discussed it on the
2:08:08
show so I can fine tune it.
2:08:10
It's always after.
2:08:12
I don't do a substack column before a
2:08:14
topic arrives on the show.
2:08:16
Oh, well, you have my permission.
2:08:18
It doesn't bother me.
2:08:19
And furthermore, unlike we do this podcast together.
2:08:24
We get to do this.
2:08:28
I plug the No Agenda show at the
2:08:31
end.
2:08:32
People can check this out.
2:08:33
At the end of every single substack column,
2:08:35
there is a promotion for the No Agenda
2:08:37
show.
2:08:38
Well, I would say that of the 18
2:08:41
episodes of We Get to Do This, that
2:08:45
I have discussed No Agenda in at least
2:08:47
17 of them.
2:08:49
I, you can't fault me for not promoting
2:08:53
the show or talking about or even about
2:08:55
you.
2:08:56
In fact, I think that what really irked
2:08:58
you, and I understand it and I apologize,
2:09:02
is that I said, this is the highlight
2:09:04
of my week.
2:09:06
And I think that might have irked you.
2:09:09
But I could be wrong.
2:09:11
That is exactly right.
2:09:13
Okay.
2:09:15
So.
2:09:16
Even though you said earlier on this show.
2:09:19
I said you love doing this show and
2:09:21
you would do it for free.
2:09:22
I would, I would.
2:09:24
But yeah, well, I would.
2:09:25
But if you keep doing that, then I
2:09:27
won't do it at all.
2:09:28
So it was really and then I'll take
2:09:31
my marbles and I'm going home.
2:09:33
If I have to, if I have to.
2:09:35
But I'm taking those marbles.
2:09:36
I'm going home.
2:09:37
But I also as soon as I get
2:09:38
if once I get the name of that
2:09:40
podcast down, I'll stop doing it.
2:09:41
I can't remember that we get to do
2:09:45
this.
2:09:46
Literally, people at church came up to me
2:09:48
this morning.
2:09:49
Are you okay?
2:09:51
And I said, no, I wasn't.
2:09:52
I was I was upset.
2:09:54
They say, well, we don't mind.
2:09:55
We don't mind the repurpose content.
2:09:57
We kind of like hearing it more than
2:09:58
once.
2:10:00
Okay.
2:10:00
Yeah.
2:10:01
So I think we're good.
2:10:04
Well, I would.
2:10:04
I'm okay.
2:10:05
I'll say one last thing.
2:10:07
Yes.
2:10:09
Now I got nothing else.
2:10:10
I also recognize that I needed to change
2:10:15
my attitude.
2:10:16
I am not the same person that you
2:10:18
were talking to three years ago.
2:10:20
And I recognize that I also have to
2:10:22
adjust my own attitude towards you.
2:10:25
Certainly.
2:10:26
So I feel much better after having discussed
2:10:29
the matter with my friends.
2:10:31
And I'll tell you this.
2:10:33
If people followed the dynamic of this show,
2:10:36
they would know that if we actually lived
2:10:38
in the same town or did it in
2:10:40
a studio together, this show would have been
2:10:44
over a decade ago.
2:10:45
So easily.
2:10:49
Maybe even after 100 episodes, which is kind
2:10:52
of where I was ready to quit.
2:10:54
You were ready to quit after 10.
2:10:57
And so, yes.
2:11:02
And the other little bit based on them
2:11:04
done.
2:11:05
Yeah.
2:11:05
With the topic.
2:11:06
Okay.
2:11:06
Is the problem I had with the repurposed
2:11:09
material, even though people like to hear it
2:11:11
twice, somehow, for some reason, is that it
2:11:15
lessens the...
2:11:16
Because I hear that we've had this podcast
2:11:19
together.
2:11:20
We get to do this.
2:11:21
We do this together.
2:11:22
We get to do this.
2:11:26
Is that you do the bit and you've
2:11:29
rehearsed it.
2:11:29
And then you come in...
2:11:31
The spontaneity is missing from this show.
2:11:34
But see, this is where...
2:11:35
So two things.
2:11:38
First of all, I'm always...
2:11:39
I was actually in both cases that you
2:11:41
called me out on it.
2:11:43
I was actually excited to get your input,
2:11:47
your take on it.
2:11:48
That's why I brought it up, not to
2:11:50
have it rehearsed and do it again.
2:11:52
But I am interested in what you have
2:11:54
to say.
2:11:54
Well, if you had presented it that way...
2:11:57
Well, I didn't get far enough.
2:12:00
But that is truly...
2:12:01
That is really the truth.
2:12:04
If something comes up...
2:12:05
Well, I accept that as the truth.
2:12:07
Yes.
2:12:08
And I will refuse...
2:12:09
I should either stop listening to the other
2:12:12
show, which is hard to do.
2:12:16
Because it's...
2:12:17
I know it's a great show.
2:12:18
I know.
2:12:18
It's short, it's only once a week.
2:12:21
It's only what's short.
2:12:22
That's the redeeming quality.
2:12:25
Yes.
2:12:25
It's like Horowitz and I.
2:12:26
We only do an hour.
2:12:28
Yeah.
2:12:29
And the other thing I will say is
2:12:31
that there was never...
2:12:32
Of course, you didn't listen to every four
2:12:34
-hour MoFax with Adam Curry show.
2:12:37
It was hard because there's a word in
2:12:41
there you said, and that explains it.
2:12:45
Four.
2:12:46
Yes.
2:12:47
Now, I know, but I repurpose content from
2:12:49
Mo's show all the time.
2:12:51
I'm sure you know...
2:12:53
I would literally say it.
2:12:54
I would say, here's a clip that I
2:12:56
played on MoFax, and I played it for
2:12:59
you because I was interested in your...
2:13:02
That's interesting you say that, and I probably
2:13:04
would have been annoyed with the MoFax show
2:13:07
if I had the time to listen to
2:13:11
four hours of that show, because it was
2:13:14
long.
2:13:15
Yeah, it was very long.
2:13:16
It was longer than our show.
2:13:19
But just so you know, I don't bring
2:13:22
things up...
2:13:22
Well, I feel I apologized for being a
2:13:25
dick, according to our friend here.
2:13:28
I forgave you, so that's...
2:13:30
But it's the audience that I'm concerned about.
2:13:34
Not you, who cares?
2:13:37
We continue with a short row of ducks.
2:13:40
222 from Claudiu Chere from Liberty Lake, Washington.
2:13:46
And I looked, donation was sent to adamcurry
2:13:49
.com.
2:13:49
Okay, this is a mistake.
2:13:51
You need to send it to notes at
2:13:54
noagendashow.net.
2:13:55
I believe that is made clear on our
2:13:58
donation page.
2:13:59
And I searched on your email, and I
2:14:03
looked in my spam boxes.
2:14:04
I have not received this with the subject
2:14:06
line donation.
2:14:07
And if I saw something come through with
2:14:09
the subject line donation, I would have caught
2:14:12
it.
2:14:12
In fact, I do a regular search because
2:14:15
I get a lot of email and I
2:14:18
didn't get it.
2:14:18
So send the note.
2:14:19
We'll be happy to read it later.
2:14:21
Thank you for your support, Claudiu.
2:14:23
Hmm.
2:14:25
There we have Shauna.
2:14:27
Shauna Norberg in Bellingham, Washington.
2:14:30
217.94, no note whatsoever.
2:14:32
And we'll give her a double up, Karma.
2:14:34
Yes, we will.
2:14:37
You've got Karma.
2:14:42
Sir Brian Tobiason from Gardner, Kansas.
2:14:45
208.88. And he wants respect.
2:14:49
F-35 guy in traditional jobs.
2:14:51
Karma, you guys are great.
2:14:53
And I'd like to throw my two cents
2:14:56
on the whole TikTok and recycled content bickering
2:14:58
over the last few shows.
2:15:00
John, I'm a fan of Adam, but the
2:15:03
only other podcast I listen to with him
2:15:05
is Rogan when he's a guest.
2:15:07
So I've not heard anything discussed with Jimmy.
2:15:09
And I think to assume we are all
2:15:11
listening to everything he does is a mistake.
2:15:13
Adam, and this is good.
2:15:15
Adam, you may not enjoy the TikTok lunatics
2:15:18
that John brings, but I don't ever go
2:15:20
on TikTok or even search them out on
2:15:22
X.
2:15:23
So this is my only exposure to the
2:15:24
nut jobs, and I love it.
2:15:26
Fair point.
2:15:27
Therefore, you can both work on your assumptions
2:15:30
about the audience.
2:15:31
And regardless, you can rest assured, no agenda
2:15:33
will be the only podcast I never miss.
2:15:37
Thank you for your courage, Sir Tobiason, Viscount
2:15:39
of the Chief's Kingdom.
2:15:40
Well, he put us both in our place,
2:15:42
and I appreciate that.
2:15:47
R-E-S-P-I-C-T.
2:15:50
Oh, what in the world is this?
2:15:53
Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.
2:15:57
Let's vote for jobs.
2:16:00
Well, he's back.
2:16:03
Eli the Coffee Guy.
2:16:04
And I do have a clip I want
2:16:06
to play, a bonus clip for this segment.
2:16:08
But I'm going to read this note first,
2:16:09
then we'll play the bonus clip.
2:16:11
OK.
2:16:11
Bensonville, Illinois is where he is.
2:16:13
He's came in with 2-0-1-15.
2:16:16
Looks like the final domino in the West
2:16:20
Clark 7 may finally be falling.
2:16:23
Funny how a 20-year-old clip aged,
2:16:27
well, it didn't, you know, thing is, they
2:16:29
were supposed to do that in what?
2:16:30
Within five years.
2:16:32
It was supposed to happen in 2005.
2:16:35
Yes.
2:16:35
Yeah.
2:16:35
Within five years, we're going to do this.
2:16:37
They didn't do jack.
2:16:39
Should we play the short version for a
2:16:40
second, just so people know?
2:16:41
Yeah, sure.
2:16:42
Why not?
2:16:42
West Clark 7.
2:16:44
Let me make sure it's the small one.
2:16:46
The short one.
2:16:49
Yes.
2:16:50
So I came back to see him a
2:16:52
few weeks later.
2:16:54
And by that time we were bombing in
2:16:55
Afghanistan.
2:16:56
I said, are we still going to war
2:16:57
with Iraq?
2:16:58
And he said, oh, it's worse than that.
2:17:00
He said, he reached over on his desk.
2:17:01
He picked up a piece of paper.
2:17:02
He said, I just, he said, I just
2:17:04
got this down from upstairs.
2:17:06
I mean, the Secretary of Defense's office today.
2:17:07
And he said, this is a memo that
2:17:09
describes how we're going to take out seven
2:17:11
countries in five years, starting with Iraq and
2:17:15
then Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Somalia, Sudan, and finishing
2:17:19
off Iran.
2:17:20
Yes.
2:17:21
Unfortunately, President Trump thwarted that plan.
2:17:26
Yes.
2:17:26
So we're still counting.
2:17:28
Yes.
2:17:29
Anyway, he says, he says funny how a
2:17:32
20 year old clip aged better than the
2:17:34
coverage we get in real time.
2:17:36
I don't think that's true.
2:17:38
Thanks to no agenda for the reminder that
2:17:40
none of this is random.
2:17:43
The only thing that's changed in the past
2:17:45
two decades is that the news graphics have
2:17:49
gotten better.
2:17:49
I'm not even sure that's true.
2:17:51
I think the coffee's gotten better.
2:17:53
I mean, I'm just happy to write his
2:17:54
own copy for him.
2:17:55
Yes, it has.
2:17:56
Just in case it pops off, be prepared.
2:17:59
Stock up on coffee now.
2:18:01
You never know what ripple effects it can
2:18:04
have on the supply chain.
2:18:05
Visit gigawattcoffeeroasters.com and use code ITM20 for
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20% off your order.
2:18:11
Stay caffeinated.
2:18:11
Eli the coffee guy.
2:18:13
And so I put this clip aside waiting
2:18:15
for Eli to come back on board here
2:18:17
with his donations.
2:18:18
He had a PayPal issue, I believe.
2:18:20
Well, whatever it is, he's got these getting
2:18:23
the clip.
2:18:23
And here it is.
2:18:24
This Dr. Rhonda Patrick.
2:18:27
Drinking coffee appears to actively slow this biological
2:18:30
aging process.
2:18:32
Researchers found that each additional cup of coffee
2:18:34
corresponded to about 0.12 years younger biological
2:18:38
age.
2:18:39
Even more strikingly, people who consumed three or
2:18:42
more cups per day had a 34 to
2:18:45
41% lower chance of accelerated biological aging
2:18:49
compared to non-drinkers.
2:18:51
In a separate multi-ethnic study using advanced
2:18:54
epigenetic clocks, further supported this.
2:18:56
So regular coffee intake correlated with roughly 0
2:19:00
.7 to a full year reduction in epigenetic
2:19:03
age for each daily cup consumed.
2:19:06
I'm going to live forever.
2:19:09
This is good news.
2:19:12
Wow.
2:19:13
Who knew?
2:19:15
They always say you drink too much coffee.
2:19:16
The coffee councils get long tentacles.
2:19:19
Well, you know who also drinks a lot
2:19:21
of coffee are the Dutch.
2:19:23
And they look great.
2:19:25
They look very good.
2:19:27
All right.
2:19:28
That's a good clip.
2:19:30
Onward with $200.
2:19:31
And we thank you, Andrew Seymour from Columbus,
2:19:33
Ohio.
2:19:33
He says, hi, Adam and John.
2:19:35
I've been a longtime listener.
2:19:36
I'm finally reaching out to donate.
2:19:37
This is my first installment toward becoming a
2:19:39
knight of the No Agenda Roundtable.
2:19:41
I will include more notes with my future
2:19:43
installments.
2:19:44
Thank you both for keeping us on track.
2:19:46
Please choose jingles of your choice.
2:19:49
73s, it's a ham.
2:19:50
Andrew Seymour, WHFLG.
2:19:53
You know, I got a whole bunch of
2:19:55
messages.
2:19:56
People like, hey, Fredericksburg hams made the news.
2:19:59
I'm like, oh, what happened?
2:20:01
So we have a repeater here in Fredericksburg.
2:20:03
Two meter repeater, two meter repeater.
2:20:06
And the big news was that they've it
2:20:09
now runs completely on solar power.
2:20:11
They're like, oh, that's that's reasonably cool.
2:20:14
That's actually a smart idea.
2:20:15
But then the you look at the picture
2:20:17
of the guys who are running the repeater.
2:20:20
Not a single young person will ever enter
2:20:22
the amateur radio hobby.
2:20:24
When you see this picture, these guys, one's
2:20:26
got a got a walker.
2:20:28
I mean, I love my hams, but come
2:20:31
on, people.
2:20:31
We need some young people to represent this
2:20:34
hobby.
2:20:34
Got to be something to do that.
2:20:37
You're right.
2:20:37
It was this is this is a long
2:20:39
standing problem.
2:20:41
Yeah, and there's really no reason for it,
2:20:43
because if you look on YouTube, there's lots
2:20:44
of young people messing around with two meter
2:20:46
gear and stuff like that.
2:20:48
Anyway, he asked me for a random jingle.
2:20:51
I have a new jingle, which is an
2:20:54
ode to you, then will be used in
2:20:56
future segments.
2:21:02
Take talking in my car.
2:21:06
Linda Lou Patkins up.
2:21:08
She's in Castle Rock, Colorado.
2:21:10
Jobs Karma, she says for a competitive edge
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with a resume that gets results.
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That's ImageMakersInc with a K and work with
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Linda Lou, the Duchess of Jobs and writer
2:21:28
of winning resumes.
2:21:30
Jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs.
2:21:33
Let's vote for jobs.
2:21:36
Karma.
2:21:38
And we wind it up with a $200
2:21:40
donation from Sir Writer of Words.
2:21:43
He comes from Redlands, California, and he says,
2:21:47
let me see.
2:21:49
Am I missing a piece of his note
2:21:51
here?
2:21:53
No, he just says, I also it starts
2:21:54
off.
2:21:55
I also ran into the statute of limitations.
2:21:57
Is that all?
2:21:58
That's how his note starts.
2:21:59
I'm missing something here.
2:22:00
That's where I got.
2:22:02
I also ran into the statute of limitations
2:22:04
issue after.
2:22:05
Oh, I also ran into the statute of
2:22:07
limitations issue after being fired for not allowing
2:22:09
the vaccine into my life in 2021.
2:22:11
It was a blessing.
2:22:13
I'm a med school professor and researcher now,
2:22:15
but I wouldn't say no to a nice
2:22:17
settlement.
2:22:17
If any NA lawyers have a creative solution.
2:22:20
Know what I mean?
2:22:21
Rob Carty.
2:22:23
Thanks to all of the NOAA agenda listeners
2:22:25
who bought my book, God's Eye View on
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Amazon and Audible.
2:22:29
Yes, God's Eye View.
2:22:31
They talked about it.
2:22:32
He's a PhD and it's a very good
2:22:33
book.
2:22:34
Big thanks for all of the five-star
2:22:36
reviews.
2:22:37
You can also check out my podcast, God's
2:22:39
Eye View, where we talk about faith and
2:22:41
science.
2:22:42
Speaking of which.
2:22:43
Science.
2:22:44
Adam, could you tell us a bit about
2:22:45
Godcaster?
2:22:46
Thank you for your courage, boys.
2:22:48
Sir Writer of Words.
2:22:49
Well, I won't have to because you can
2:22:51
go to Godcaster, one word, dot FM and
2:22:54
download the app and you'll see for yourself.
2:22:57
And yes, you can also get the NOAA
2:22:58
agenda show on it.
2:23:00
And that is our final associate executive producer
2:23:02
for episode 1835.
2:23:04
Thank you all very much.
2:23:05
We'll be thanking the rest of our supporters
2:23:07
and donors and producers.
2:23:09
$50 and above in our second segment.
2:23:11
We appreciate that you do this.
2:23:12
Remember, these credits are the real deal.
2:23:14
Just like Hollywood credits.
2:23:15
People like Danny Brunetti have them more than
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one.
2:23:18
You can put it on imdb.com and
2:23:20
we thank you for supporting the NOAA agenda
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show.
2:23:22
Congratulations to these associate and executive producers.
2:23:26
Our formula is this.
2:23:28
We go out, we hit people in the
2:23:30
mouth.
2:23:44
So I just want to play a kind
2:23:46
of a throwaway clip.
2:23:47
But people keep sending me stuff like this.
2:23:51
And I urge you, when you see or
2:23:55
hear one of these reports, go to the,
2:23:59
you know, just Google the vehicle in question
2:24:04
and look at something called performance.
2:24:08
Sometimes it'll always be listed.
2:24:12
Endurance is another good one.
2:24:14
This is from Rick, the cyber guy who's
2:24:16
reporting to us from CES.
2:24:18
Are you ready for rush hour in the
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skies?
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why so many people get my newsletter for
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free.
2:24:26
Now, this is pretty cool.
2:24:28
Flying cars are coming faster than you think.
2:24:30
Check this out.
2:24:31
It's called the Blackbird demonstrator by Cyclotech.
2:24:34
It's got cyclo rotors.
2:24:36
Imagine propellers that can push you in any
2:24:39
direction.
2:24:40
That's right.
2:24:40
A full 360 degree control in the air.
2:24:43
And guess what?
2:24:44
This thing can take off vertically, break midair
2:24:47
and even parallel park in the sky.
2:24:49
Yeah, parallel parking in midair.
2:24:51
I still struggle with that right here on
2:24:53
the ground.
2:24:54
Plus, it's super safe and stable.
2:24:56
Even if an engine goes out, it just
2:24:58
keeps flying.
2:24:59
First flight happening this quarter.
2:25:01
Like it or not, sky traffic is on
2:25:03
the way.
2:25:04
What do you think?
2:25:05
Are you excited or a little nervous about
2:25:07
this stuff?
2:25:08
Let me know in the comments below.
2:25:09
No, I'm not excited for a thing that
2:25:12
can fly 49 miles per hour.
2:25:14
You can't be over 200 pounds.
2:25:16
And it only flies 49 miles per hour
2:25:18
for 20 minutes before you have to recharge.
2:25:21
This is a useless toy.
2:25:24
Until batteries improve, which I really am.
2:25:28
Please don't email because there's no proof.
2:25:31
And we're like, no, you know, it's improving
2:25:33
the Chinese.
2:25:33
OK, no, they're not improving.
2:25:37
They're not.
2:25:39
It's just not.
2:25:40
Well, there's some improvement, but there's not improvement
2:25:42
in performance.
2:25:44
Improvement in long term stability.
2:25:47
That's the latest.
2:25:47
It's the power to weight ratio that just
2:25:50
does not work for flight.
2:25:54
So just saying.
2:25:57
Everybody's all, oh, look at this.
2:25:59
It's like a drone.
2:26:00
I can sit in my.
2:26:01
Can you imagine a scenario?
2:26:03
I always like to do this as a
2:26:05
as a scenario, a timeline scenario where the
2:26:09
gasoline engine wasn't invented and everything was battery
2:26:13
powered.
2:26:13
And then suddenly somebody invents the gasoline engine.
2:26:17
Yeah, which goes farther and has more energy
2:26:20
per weight.
2:26:21
Everything about it.
2:26:22
It would it would wipe out the electric
2:26:24
business, which it did already once, by the
2:26:27
way, because there were electric cars early on.
2:26:30
It would just be over.
2:26:32
Yeah, but no, it's all it's all of
2:26:35
the climate change stuff and the and the
2:26:37
subsidies that made that rock.
2:26:40
So subsidies.
2:26:41
What did I say?
2:26:43
You said subsidies.
2:26:44
Oh, subsidies.
2:26:45
Yes.
2:26:45
And it is subsidies.
2:26:47
That's what they're gone.
2:26:48
Now the subsidies are gone.
2:26:49
And this is the end of it.
2:26:51
Yes.
2:26:52
So we were mentioning Iran earlier.
2:26:55
And I'm very, very pleased that our president,
2:26:59
for whatever reason, like they were going to
2:27:01
hang 800 people from cranes.
2:27:03
You told me it was just one.
2:27:05
I mean, the president had.
2:27:06
Well, I know there was one guy in
2:27:07
particular they were making a big fuss about.
2:27:09
I didn't know they're going to hang 800.
2:27:11
I don't know there was that many cranes
2:27:12
in Tehran.
2:27:13
It's asynchronous information, baby.
2:27:15
We are just not in the know.
2:27:17
So that was his reason.
2:27:18
Like, oh, they stop.
2:27:19
So I'm not going to do anything.
2:27:21
But that doesn't mean that that isn't exactly
2:27:24
what the true neocons want to do.
2:27:28
They always want to bomb them, bomb them
2:27:31
and bomb them again.
2:27:32
And I loved seeing John the Stash Bolton
2:27:37
come on Ms. Now with the Cabrera lady.
2:27:43
And I pulled two clips for our enjoyment.
2:27:45
You were his former national security advisor.
2:27:48
What do you make of the president's approach
2:27:49
toward this situation in Iran?
2:27:52
Well, I think it's evolving in a typically
2:27:54
incoherent fashion.
2:27:55
You know, the chronology doesn't support Trump's view
2:27:58
here.
2:27:58
He was he was saying a few days
2:28:01
ago that Iranian patriots should keep protesting, take
2:28:05
over your institutions, he said, when in fact
2:28:08
the main killing was over the weekend and
2:28:10
the protests had largely subsided because the people
2:28:14
were scared to death to leave their homes
2:28:16
for what they might what might face from
2:28:19
the besieging militia and other agents of the
2:28:22
Iranian government.
2:28:23
We don't really know what the situation is.
2:28:25
There are 31 provinces in Iran.
2:28:27
Communication is not good.
2:28:30
And in any event, who cares what the
2:28:32
regime in Tehran says?
2:28:34
They lie quite regularly.
2:28:35
And it's it's just a mistake to say,
2:28:38
well, they've said they're not killing anymore.
2:28:39
So I guess things are all right.
2:28:41
I don't know what the president's going to
2:28:42
do.
2:28:43
I think we're missing a real opportunity here
2:28:45
to help the opposition overthrow this regime.
2:28:49
That may not be Trump's objective, but it
2:28:51
should be.
2:28:51
Oh, what an opportunity we missed here to
2:28:54
bomb, bomb, bomb them to help the so
2:28:57
-called opposition, which appears to be the crown
2:29:01
prince.
2:29:02
By the way, there's no evidence he's a
2:29:04
crown prince.
2:29:05
He's just the grandson of he's not recognized.
2:29:10
I like your good.
2:29:10
That's a very good point.
2:29:11
Oh, it was annoying.
2:29:12
I had never been able to look it
2:29:14
up.
2:29:14
When was he crowned?
2:29:16
Yeah, there's no coronation on record.
2:29:18
And it's so funny because there was at
2:29:20
Mar-a-Lago.
2:29:21
There was a big Jerusalem prayer breakfast and
2:29:27
Pastor Steve Berger was speaking.
2:29:30
And he was like, oh, I was going
2:29:32
to have the crown prince here, you know,
2:29:34
to talk about the opposition in Iran.
2:29:36
And he had important business in D.C.
2:29:39
So he sent us this video, like a
2:29:41
45 second video.
2:29:42
But what really happened is Trump said, no,
2:29:45
I've got no time for him.
2:29:46
He seems like a nice guy, but I'm
2:29:48
not going to meet with him because he's
2:29:51
obviously an op of some probably the British
2:29:55
who are doing this.
2:29:56
You know, if there is any kind of
2:29:58
op that's happening, it's not us.
2:30:00
I got to play the second Bolton clip
2:30:02
and I'll play what I was talking about.
2:30:04
How would the U.S. help the opposition
2:30:07
overthrow the regime?
2:30:08
Well, I think we have missed years of
2:30:11
opportunity to help the opposition inside Iran, helping
2:30:14
them with communication, which they could desperately use
2:30:17
at this point.
2:30:18
And other resources.
2:30:19
What?
2:30:20
We did help with communication who slipped into
2:30:22
40000 receivers for the Starlink.
2:30:26
But that's if we didn't we didn't have
2:30:28
anything.
2:30:28
He does.
2:30:29
He doesn't want that.
2:30:30
He wants the bomb.
2:30:31
He wants the bomb.
2:30:32
Listen, I know, but he's just saying what
2:30:33
he's saying is a lie.
2:30:34
Yeah, well, he's he's a douche with the
2:30:36
mustache of American boots on the ground.
2:30:39
It's a tangible support that would help the
2:30:42
opposition get better organized.
2:30:44
Right now, I think that that striking against
2:30:49
the the key elements of repression in Iran,
2:30:53
the Revolutionary Guards, the besieging militia, as I
2:30:56
mentioned, headquarters facilities, military bases, paramilitary bases, the
2:31:02
Iran nuclear program, the missile ballistic missile production
2:31:07
program that would show to the regime and
2:31:09
potential defectors within the regime that its days
2:31:13
are numbers numbered.
2:31:14
And it would give the opposition the moral
2:31:17
support I think they need in the face
2:31:19
of this regime brutality to continue to protest
2:31:23
because we're not going to we're not going
2:31:25
to overthrow the regime for the Iranian people.
2:31:28
They're going to have to be a significant
2:31:29
part of it.
2:31:30
I think the regime is in the weakest
2:31:32
position it's been in since 1979.
2:31:35
And if this latest effort by the people
2:31:38
to get control of the government fails, we
2:31:41
may have to wait quite some time before
2:31:42
the next opportunity emerges.
2:31:44
Oh, we're missing the opportunity to bomb them.
2:31:46
So I do expect the anti-war podcast
2:31:49
crowd to talk about Bolton instead of the
2:31:53
person you actually hate, which is the president,
2:31:56
who just restrained himself.
2:31:58
He's like, no, I'm not falling for this
2:32:00
gambit.
2:32:00
And I think it is a gambit.
2:32:03
The I'm not sure no one really knows
2:32:05
like 20,000 people have been slaughtered.
2:32:07
Maybe I don't know.
2:32:08
Lots of people have been killed for sure.
2:32:12
But this to me, if not boots on
2:32:15
the ground, it certainly smells of some kind
2:32:17
of MI6 media operation like, yeah, let's get
2:32:21
Trump over there.
2:32:22
Let's drag him into a war is a
2:32:23
good idea.
2:32:24
We'll distract him from Greenland and everything else
2:32:26
that we don't want him to do.
2:32:28
And and so out comes the Iranian minister.
2:32:31
I don't know what minister of what I
2:32:33
got this from.
2:32:34
Yeah, I saw this guy.
2:32:35
I just pulled a little bit of a
2:32:36
clip.
2:32:37
Just replace everything with MI6.
2:32:40
The goal was to increase the number of
2:32:42
casualties in the protests.
2:32:44
Why?
2:32:45
Because Mr. Trump, the president of the United
2:32:48
States, said that if people are killed, they
2:32:51
will come and intervene.
2:32:53
This is clear evidence of interference in the
2:32:55
internal affairs of other countries.
2:32:57
We have audio recordings of messages sent from
2:33:00
outside the country to these terrorist elements telling
2:33:03
them open fire while you are among the
2:33:06
protesters.
2:33:07
If you can shoot the police, do so.
2:33:10
If you cannot, then shoot ordinary people.
2:33:13
And if that is not possible, then shoot
2:33:15
the girl or the young man directly in
2:33:17
front of you.
2:33:18
We possess extensive evidence and documents indicating the
2:33:22
involvement of both the United States and Israel
2:33:25
in this terrorist act.
2:33:27
Israeli media outlets are full of reports claiming
2:33:30
they are busy planning operations inside Iran.
2:33:33
Mr. Pompeo, an influential figure who served as
2:33:36
director of the CIA during Trump's previous term,
2:33:40
posted a tweet saying, I congratulate the Iranians
2:33:43
in the streets and Mossad agents walking alongside
2:33:46
them, which constitutes a clear admission.
2:33:49
We, the Iranian government, demand justice for everyone
2:33:52
who was killed.
2:33:53
In the documents we obtained, the detained rioters
2:33:56
confessed that large sums of money were paid
2:33:59
to them and that they were recruited through
2:34:01
financial incentives.
2:34:03
Eighty million tomans were paid to attack each
2:34:05
police station and to attack or ban vehicles
2:34:08
and government vehicles.
2:34:09
Fifty million tomans to set places on fire.
2:34:13
Twenty million tomans for other acts.
2:34:16
There are documents and confessions for each case.
2:34:19
The money that was paid has also been
2:34:21
seized and documented.
2:34:22
We have the proof, Pompeo.
2:34:26
You think Pompeo still has ties to the
2:34:29
CIA?
2:34:30
I don't think so.
2:34:32
I don't either.
2:34:33
I mean, if anything, and the Israelis don't
2:34:36
want to do this.
2:34:38
I love you.
2:34:39
It is clear the Israelis did it.
2:34:41
For to what end?
2:34:42
That certainly failed them.
2:34:43
Where's your boy Trump coming in there bombing
2:34:45
for you?
2:34:46
That's not a good op.
2:34:48
So no, dumb.
2:34:51
What I was surprised to hear, and this
2:34:54
is through the nature of transparency on blockchains,
2:34:59
is that the Iranians, you know, we knew
2:35:02
that the IRCG, they were using Bitcoin to
2:35:05
buy stuff and transact.
2:35:06
Going back to 2018, this has been known.
2:35:09
But I came across this.
2:35:11
Then it seems like some $8 billion is
2:35:13
held in Bitcoin, but transactions being done in
2:35:17
stable coin.
2:35:18
If we look at conflict countries, particularly we'll
2:35:21
take the top two right now that happen
2:35:23
to be Iran and Venezuela.
2:35:25
What we're seeing is a huge uptick in
2:35:27
stable coin usage because their currencies are hyper
2:35:31
inflating.
2:35:31
Venezuela has been for a while.
2:35:33
And Iran, they have 42.4 percent inflation,
2:35:37
food inflation is over 60 percent.
2:35:40
That's just happened in the last few months
2:35:42
that it's just exploded forward.
2:35:44
So we are seeing people try to get
2:35:47
currency that is a little beyond the purview
2:35:50
of the regimes that are in power, that
2:35:53
are eroding their particular buying power of their
2:35:57
currency.
2:35:57
So they'd rather hold something like a stable
2:36:00
coin, particularly a U.S. dollar, that's going
2:36:02
to hold its value a lot more.
2:36:05
And we did get a nice boots on
2:36:07
the ground anonymous from one of our producers
2:36:08
who says, yeah, this is really rolling out.
2:36:11
He's at a big operation that is rolling
2:36:13
them out.
2:36:18
And and certainly in the United States will
2:36:20
replace Zelle.
2:36:23
You saw that note, didn't you?
2:36:28
No.
2:36:29
Yeah, you did.
2:36:29
You were you were you replied to him.
2:36:31
Oh, what did it say?
2:36:33
I work for a company that writes banking
2:36:35
software.
2:36:36
Don't mention.
2:36:36
Oh, yeah, that guy.
2:36:37
Yeah, yeah.
2:36:37
It's good.
2:36:38
I'll read it.
2:36:39
I'm unsure how public this information is.
2:36:41
OK, got it.
2:36:41
We are one of the largest core providers
2:36:43
in the nation.
2:36:44
So he he removed the name appropriately.
2:36:47
Our products are often considered top tier banking
2:36:49
software.
2:36:50
This year we're rolling out stable coin features
2:36:52
to allow for customers and banks to trade
2:36:54
in stable coins directly with and through their
2:36:56
bank.
2:36:57
We are also getting things ready for the
2:36:58
big stable coin rollout in the U.S.
2:37:01
At a meeting last week, it was announced
2:37:03
that this was coming.
2:37:04
Thus, this next financial year, and we're currently
2:37:07
slated to be the first provider of such
2:37:09
a service, their existing integration with Coinbase and
2:37:11
others.
2:37:11
But this will be directly to the bank
2:37:13
and specifically stable coin.
2:37:15
We also were told that we projected the
2:37:17
next two years.
2:37:18
This is going to be how our customers,
2:37:20
his customers, our banks move money.
2:37:22
And it's going to mean we pull back
2:37:24
on some of our support for other services.
2:37:26
It wasn't said.
2:37:27
But the implication was Zelle, which is a
2:37:30
huge pain in the ass, which is true.
2:37:33
Zelle is a huge.
2:37:34
Yes, our bank, the one we use doesn't
2:37:36
use won't even take deal with it.
2:37:38
Our bank here, Guadalupe Bank in Fredericksburg, which
2:37:42
is a hill country bank, they won't use
2:37:44
it either.
2:37:44
Like, no, sorry, Mr. Curry, not doing that.
2:37:49
So it's coming, but it's all for other
2:37:52
reasons.
2:37:53
We'll have to watch Scott the Shusher Besant
2:37:55
very closely in this regard.
2:37:58
But I don't think there's much else to
2:37:59
say about about Iran.
2:38:02
I do have a couple of things to
2:38:03
say about Venezuela.
2:38:04
Yeah, let's do that.
2:38:05
What is this all about?
2:38:08
Venezuela meeting with who?
2:38:10
Let's find out.
2:38:11
Today, the first image of what U.S.
2:38:13
officials build as a historic meeting, CIA Director
2:38:16
John Ratcliffe greeting interim Venezuelan President Delsi Rodriguez.
2:38:20
That handshake and Ratcliffe's trip to Caracas would
2:38:24
have been unthinkable just weeks ago.
2:38:28
Especially to visit U.S. sanctioned nationalist politician
2:38:31
Rodriguez, handpicked successor to captured Venezuelan President Nicolás
2:38:35
Maduro.
2:38:36
But a U.S. official says the meeting
2:38:38
was a sign of an improved U.S.-Venezuela
2:38:40
relationship.
2:38:43
And that Venezuela must block drug trafficking and
2:38:47
provide the U.S. economic opportunities.
2:38:49
This has nothing to do with a tension
2:38:54
or decision between Delsi Rodriguez and myself.
2:38:58
But in Washington today, opposition leader Maria Carina
2:39:01
Machado urged the U.S. to proceed with
2:39:04
caution.
2:39:05
Delsi Rodriguez, yes, she's a communist.
2:39:09
She's the main ally and representation of the
2:39:12
Russian regime, the Chinese and Iranians.
2:39:16
But that's not the Venezuelan people and that's
2:39:18
not the armed forces.
2:39:20
Last night, Machado gifted President her Nobel Peace
2:39:23
Prize.
2:39:23
Only 150 have ever been awarded, and one
2:39:27
will now hang in the White House, dedicated
2:39:29
to President Trump's, quote, principled and decisive action
2:39:32
to secure a free Venezuela.
2:39:34
And she gave me her Nobel Prize.
2:39:37
But I'll tell you what, I get to
2:39:40
know her.
2:39:40
I never met her before.
2:39:41
And I was very, very impressed.
2:39:43
She's a really, this is a fine woman.
2:39:47
I have the rest of that statement after
2:39:49
your second clip, because it's funny.
2:39:53
So Radcliffe goes to Venezuela.
2:39:55
Of course.
2:39:56
The CIA guy.
2:39:59
And it's like, what?
2:40:00
It's because there's something up.
2:40:02
Well, and this was.
2:40:04
Go ahead.
2:40:04
With a lot of.
2:40:05
I'm sorry.
2:40:06
No, go ahead.
2:40:09
Go ahead, go ahead, go ahead, go ahead,
2:40:10
go ahead, go ahead, go ahead.
2:40:12
I was going.
2:40:14
You know, it's first of all, well, Machado,
2:40:17
it's obvious, you know, anyone who receives a
2:40:19
peace prize, got a big red flag on
2:40:21
your head.
2:40:21
No, you're a part of some shill system.
2:40:25
I'm sorry.
2:40:26
No, no, no.
2:40:28
If Obama got one, who else got one?
2:40:30
No.
2:40:32
Actually, well, let me let me play this
2:40:34
25 second clip from Trump in between your
2:40:36
clips.
2:40:50
Oh, it's your clip.
2:40:51
OK.
2:40:52
Yeah.
2:40:52
OK.
2:40:53
So and it's it's a little clearer.
2:40:56
OK, good, good.
2:40:59
Yes.
2:41:00
And anyway, the whole thing is believe that
2:41:02
Delsey Delrey, whatever the hell her name is,
2:41:05
she was part of the scheme to get
2:41:07
Maduro out of there in the first place.
2:41:09
She may be a CIA asset.
2:41:11
Well, but think about it.
2:41:13
He's over there saying, look, look, if she's
2:41:16
an asset or not, we have our guys
2:41:19
everywhere.
2:41:20
So do things our way.
2:41:23
Apparently, they deposited 500 million dollars from that
2:41:26
shipment of oil into Qatari banks, which I
2:41:29
think is interesting, but probably smart because there'd
2:41:32
be some stupid judge somewhere in some blue
2:41:35
state district who's going, well, you've got to
2:41:37
block that.
2:41:38
Trump can't do it.
2:41:39
So they put it in Qatari banks.
2:41:41
Qatar is already sending 300 million to Venezuela
2:41:44
and they can do whatever they want, you
2:41:47
know, fill up the grocery stores or maybe
2:41:48
consider a different system.
2:41:50
It's just a thought.
2:41:52
And there and Radcliffe's there saying, just do
2:41:55
what we say or we kill you all.
2:41:58
Maybe.
2:41:59
OK, so let's go to part two.
2:42:01
That's the CIA I'm thinking about.
2:42:03
Machado praised the president, but did not pull
2:42:05
her punches, especially in Spanish, in a criticism
2:42:08
of a politician whom she believes cannot deliver
2:42:11
long term stability.
2:42:12
I don't want to cause us.
2:42:14
There are some things that Delcy Rodriguez may
2:42:16
be able to deliver, forced by power because
2:42:19
she is terrified of President Trump.
2:42:21
But there are things that Delcy Rodriguez or
2:42:23
any of the members of the criminal structure
2:42:25
will never be able to provide trust, rule
2:42:28
of law, reconciliation, citizen participation and support.
2:42:32
Never, never.
2:42:34
Therefore, it is not sustainable.
2:42:36
And she knows it.
2:42:37
But if that's what she argued to the
2:42:39
president, he was not persuaded.
2:42:41
Why am I, Delcy Rodriguez, in the record
2:42:44
of a girl and not with Machado's support?
2:42:48
Well, if you ever remember a place called
2:42:51
Iraq where everybody was fired, every single person,
2:42:54
the police, the generals, everybody was fired.
2:42:59
And they ended up being ISIS.
2:43:01
Instead of just getting down to business, they
2:43:03
ended up being ISIS.
2:43:04
Last month, I spoke to Grey Bull Rescues
2:43:06
Brian Stern, who organized Machado's daring escape from
2:43:09
Venezuela.
2:43:10
She has rock star level status in the
2:43:14
country.
2:43:14
She got on a boat.
2:43:16
And that boat was not what most people
2:43:18
think.
2:43:18
It was a very small boat.
2:43:20
The seas were between 5 and 10 feet.
2:43:22
And now for the first time, Machado admitted
2:43:24
she thought she would not survive the journey.
2:43:27
So it was a very risky, dangerous and
2:43:32
scary moment, I have to say.
2:43:35
And it lasted several hours.
2:43:37
But at the end, as I say, you
2:43:41
know, we we have moved ahead.
2:43:46
Thanks to the hand of God, it is
2:43:49
a miracle.
2:43:50
And I'm here.
2:43:51
And so Machado continues her campaign to deliver
2:43:53
democracy back to Venezuela and convince President Trump
2:43:57
of its potential.
2:43:58
How about this for a thought?
2:44:02
Maduro knew this was coming.
2:44:04
He knew that the Brits and whoever else,
2:44:08
the drug network, City of London, they were
2:44:11
going to do regime change with this woman.
2:44:16
And so the first thing he did is
2:44:17
rig the election.
2:44:19
And then he's like, then he calls Trump
2:44:20
and says, dude, get me out.
2:44:23
I'm convinced that that's right.
2:44:25
We've said this before, because when he did
2:44:27
that video of come and get me, come
2:44:29
and get me.
2:44:30
What are you waiting for?
2:44:31
You're a coward.
2:44:32
That was because they were overdue to get
2:44:36
him out of there.
2:44:37
Yeah.
2:44:38
Yeah.
2:44:38
And then they then whatever this stage that
2:44:42
was probably stage for the MI6 guys like,
2:44:45
oh, yeah, we'll get her out.
2:44:46
We'll do it.
2:44:47
Yeah, we got we gotcha.
2:44:48
We're all about it.
2:44:50
And that would explain why our CIA guy
2:44:52
is in Caracas, because that sends the message.
2:44:56
Hey, look who's look who's in Caracas, who's
2:45:00
in control.
2:45:01
Where are we?
2:45:02
So the CIA guy makes it clear that
2:45:05
you can't make it any more clear than
2:45:07
having the CIA head of the CIA instead
2:45:09
of some diplomat.
2:45:10
Publicly, it should be Rubio.
2:45:13
Yeah, technically.
2:45:16
Is it that made all things a message
2:45:19
to MI6?
2:45:20
I think this this MI6 thesis that we've
2:45:23
been developing on this show is absolutely on
2:45:26
the money.
2:45:27
Those guys are not helping us.
2:45:28
No, no, no, no.
2:45:30
And they may not have been helping us
2:45:32
for a long time.
2:45:33
And so, well, go ahead.
2:45:38
This is what I love so much about
2:45:40
watching Victoria and the Crown.
2:45:43
Then, you know, so now we're in well,
2:45:46
we're in the Suez Canal crisis.
2:45:48
And even before that, where Churchill, you know,
2:45:53
he has a stroke, so he can't go
2:45:54
over to meet, I guess it was FDR
2:45:56
at the time.
2:45:57
And the way they talk about the the
2:46:00
American president and American generals, like we're a
2:46:03
bunch of dumb shits.
2:46:05
We're no good.
2:46:06
We're stupid.
2:46:07
Don't know what we're doing.
2:46:08
We're not sophisticated.
2:46:10
They've never gotten over it.
2:46:11
They've never gotten over it.
2:46:12
We were the colony that got away.
2:46:15
And we grew up to be a big
2:46:16
bad boy.
2:46:17
And they still hate it.
2:46:19
Not the British people, but the elites, the
2:46:22
rulers, the royal families.
2:46:24
Come on.
2:46:26
This is absolutely correct the way I see
2:46:29
it.
2:46:29
And it's very apparent if you read the
2:46:32
history books that I collect books.
2:46:34
So I have old history books pre-World
2:46:36
War I and history books post-World War
2:46:40
I.
2:46:40
And the attitude about the British is completely
2:46:44
180.
2:46:45
The pre-World War I history books that
2:46:49
were taught to the kids in this United
2:46:51
States were incredibly critical of the British Empire.
2:46:56
Yeah.
2:46:58
Our special relationship.
2:46:59
Then they're our best buddy.
2:47:02
Yeah.
2:47:03
When did we start with that special relationship
2:47:05
nonsense?
2:47:06
When did that start?
2:47:07
I don't know.
2:47:08
We should do an Ngram on Google.
2:47:10
I'll look it up, put in the newsletter.
2:47:12
Yeah, because it's we were captured.
2:47:16
I mean, Barack Obama, President Obama, he was
2:47:19
a British intelligent asset.
2:47:22
No doubt.
2:47:23
He's been to 10 Downing Street more than
2:47:27
the prime minister in the past couple of
2:47:28
years.
2:47:29
I'm going to go in and get some
2:47:30
instructions for what I got to do, what
2:47:32
I got to say.
2:47:34
The whole Muslim Brotherhood.
2:47:36
Remember him?
2:47:37
The Muslim Brotherhood?
2:47:39
The Muslim Brotherhood that was used against Nasser
2:47:41
in Egypt during the Suez Canal crisis?
2:47:45
By the way, if you want to understand
2:47:46
Israel, look at the Suez Canal.
2:47:48
Maybe you'll understand why Israel is important, huh?
2:47:54
Sorry, I had to mock.
2:47:56
I shouldn't be doing that.
2:48:01
But OK.
2:48:02
We have time for any more stuff or
2:48:03
we're done?
2:48:05
If you want to do one more clip,
2:48:07
we could.
2:48:07
But I can do I only have four
2:48:09
more clips.
2:48:10
I can do four more.
2:48:11
No, no, no.
2:48:11
Four is too much.
2:48:12
I can.
2:48:12
OK, you're not going to go with that.
2:48:14
I can see what you're angling for.
2:48:16
No, it's just too much.
2:48:16
We can also do the roundup lawsuit is
2:48:19
falling apart.
2:48:21
We don't want to do that.
2:48:22
The script is screwing the Hilton Hotel.
2:48:25
I like that.
2:48:26
Oh, well, I know that story.
2:48:27
Let's do something.
2:48:28
But what else you got?
2:48:29
Student loan fiasco.
2:48:31
South Korea president got slammed, thrown in the
2:48:33
jail.
2:48:34
Virginia gerrymandering.
2:48:36
This is a short look.
2:48:38
This gives me an opportunity to complain more.
2:48:40
Yes, we need more complaining.
2:48:44
Oh, ready?
2:48:45
Go.
2:48:45
Virginia lawmakers passed a constitutional amendment today that
2:48:48
would allow the legislature to redraw voting maps
2:48:51
ahead of this year's midterm elections.
2:48:53
The vote landed along party lines in the
2:48:56
Democratic led state Senate.
2:48:58
If Virginians approve the measure, it could help
2:49:00
Democrats gain as many as four seats in
2:49:02
Congress.
2:49:03
Before the vote, lawmakers from both sides laid
2:49:06
out their cases.
2:49:08
This isn't about payback.
2:49:09
It's about restoring and preserving balance to our
2:49:12
system.
2:49:13
And I will grant that we started it.
2:49:15
But a number of states have stood up
2:49:17
to bad ideas.
2:49:18
Earlier this week, Virginia's Democratic leaders said that
2:49:21
a new map would be made public by
2:49:23
the end of the month, with a referendum
2:49:25
to follow in April.
2:49:27
Democrats currently hold six out of Virginia's 11
2:49:30
seats in Congress.
2:49:31
All right.
2:49:31
I feel the guy in there that said,
2:49:34
hey, we started it is the Republican.
2:49:36
What does he mean by that?
2:49:38
He means that Texas, which was told to
2:49:40
redistrict by the courts largely, wasn't something that
2:49:44
they just started to do it for no
2:49:45
good reason or just to get rid of
2:49:47
Jasmine Crockett.
2:49:50
That's not starting.
2:49:51
It was started long ago by the Democrats.
2:49:54
There's not one Republican representative in Massachusetts or
2:49:58
Connecticut or Maine or Vermont.
2:50:01
There's not one.
2:50:02
They're the ones who started it, not the
2:50:04
Republicans, you doofus.
2:50:21
And that was a concise rap.
2:50:23
That was very good.
2:50:24
It was tight.
2:50:24
It's tight.
2:50:25
You want it tight instead of rambling.
2:50:27
It was tight.
2:50:28
So if I was rambling, I'd just be
2:50:30
doing a podcast where I'm sitting there staring
2:50:32
at a camera.
2:50:33
With cans, with cans, with cans.
2:50:35
With cans.
2:50:37
Yeah, we by the way, we have a
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few people to thank for a show.
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1835, I think it is.
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And Adam will read them off.
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Starting with the everything over 50.
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It's in Belgium.
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Oh, hello.
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He's from Australia, New South Wales.
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$100.
2:50:58
Thank you, Benjamin.
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Hope all is well there.
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People in Australia seem a little frustrated and
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down.
2:51:03
So send your thoughts and prayers to them.
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They are also our Noahjan the Nation people.
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Trevor Ellis, Parts Unknown.
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$99.
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Fourth Greenback donation.
2:51:14
Similar amount, I think.
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Hmm, okay.
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It's a Greenback, I guess.
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Kevin McLaughlin.
2:51:20
There he is, Archduke of Luna.
2:51:22
Lover of America and boobs.
2:51:23
He always sends us $80.08. $8.008.
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It is the famous boob donation.
2:51:28
He's from Concord, North Carolina.
2:51:30
Les Sarkowsky, Kingman, Arizona.
2:51:32
Small boobs, $6.006. Caroline Brillante, Boca Raton,
2:51:37
Florida.
2:51:38
$58.
2:51:39
Paul Webb in Twickenham.
2:51:40
Oh, Sir Paul, good to have you still
2:51:42
on board.
2:51:42
$55.55. James Edmondson in South Plainfield, New
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Jersey.
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Double nickels on the dime.
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That's $55.10. Same goes for Cameron Ling
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or Lingi in North Branch, Minnesota.
2:51:53
Double nickels on the dime.
2:51:55
Kirk Satoff in Nevada, California.
2:51:58
Double nickels on the dime.
2:51:59
Dean Roker, double nickels on the dime as
2:52:01
well.
2:52:01
Wow, there's a lot in the row.
2:52:03
Lydia Terry Dominelli, Rochester, New Hampshire.
2:52:06
She's always on the list.
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$55.
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Thank you.
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Misha Aponte, Denton, Texas.
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$0.51 and 50 cents.
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Pamela Bradley.
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Tacumash?
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Tacumash, I think.
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No, Tacumse.
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Tacumse?
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Tacumse.
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Tacumse.
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Tacumse.
2:52:24
Tacumse.
2:52:25
Tacumse.
2:52:26
In Oklahoma, $50.
2:52:28
Chris Arscogue.
2:52:30
Arscogue, Charlotte, North Carolina.
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$50.
2:52:32
These are all 50s.
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Scott Lavender, Montgomery, Texas.
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Simon James, London from the Great Britains.
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Baron of Belmont comes in with $50.
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Baron of Belmont and the Catawaba River Basin.
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And finally, we have Viscountess Dame Knight from
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It keeps me informed and thinking.
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We do like it when people think.
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And we do have one knight to bring
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up on the podium today, John.
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So I'll grab my sword.
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As much as the Brits hate us, we've
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taken some of their traditions, which includes...
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I have one of their swords.
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Here you go.
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It is.
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You took it right from the throne room.
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Beautiful.
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So we'll do that.
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You can discuss all of the items we
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In fact, it may just be ending about
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Netherlands.
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kicked off this afternoon in the Netherlands at
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So I'm sure they will send a report.
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They're always quite happy at those meetups.
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6.33. This is in Sao Paulo, Brazil
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at Pracina Restaurante e Bar in Sao Paulo,
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Brazil.
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And it's organized by the Britallian.
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So there will be English spoken, I guess,
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and Portuguese.
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We would love to have a meetup report
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Coming up in the month that's left here
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It's free to start one.
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You can do it all by yourself.
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It's easy and always a party.
2:59:00
Yeah, yeah, like a party.
2:59:04
Before we get to John's tip of the
2:59:06
day, which sometimes can save your kid's toe.
2:59:09
These tips of the day are important tips.
2:59:12
We'd like to select what ISO we will
2:59:14
use at the end of the show.
2:59:16
I have two.
2:59:17
I don't think I'll win.
2:59:18
So I'll go first.
2:59:19
And you've held these two in the band
2:59:20
since the last show.
2:59:21
Forever.
2:59:22
Here's my first one.
2:59:23
It's unbelievable.
2:59:28
Here's my second one.
2:59:30
It just blows my mind.
2:59:33
I like that it was clear, but it's
2:59:34
not really good.
2:59:36
Let's hear what you have.
2:59:40
Like starting with the stammer.
2:59:41
Let's see what I have.
2:59:43
Well, let's do a tune.
2:59:46
Tune soon.
2:59:47
Tune soon.
2:59:48
Yeah, great.
2:59:48
But that was over way too soon.
2:59:52
Tune soon.
2:59:53
Okay, yeah, it was over way too soon.
2:59:57
Get it.
2:59:58
Yeah, I get it.
3:00:00
Okay, it's best.
3:00:01
This podcast and these guys are the best.
3:00:06
Let me listen again.
3:00:07
Great, but that was over way too soon.
3:00:09
I mean, I'm getting to the same point
3:00:11
where.
3:00:12
His voice, what she says is good, but
3:00:15
it's just so fake.
3:00:17
You don't like her.
3:00:18
No, I don't.
3:00:19
This podcast and these guys are the best.
3:00:22
Well, you know what I like about it?
3:00:24
The honesty.
3:00:26
All right, everybody, stand by.
3:00:27
It's time for John's tip of the day.
3:00:30
Great advice for you and me.
3:00:33
Just the tip with JCD and sometimes Adam.
3:00:40
So this is a gift that was a
3:00:42
gift from JC who researches his gifts and
3:00:46
products and recommendations to an extreme.
3:00:48
My son.
3:00:50
And I got this thing.
3:00:52
Okay, there's a gift he gave to you
3:00:54
is what I'm presuming.
3:00:56
Yes.
3:00:57
And he says, no, no, no, don't take
3:00:58
it lightly.
3:00:59
This is a killer.
3:01:00
And so I loaded it up.
3:01:02
And it's indeed a killer killer.
3:01:05
This is a Flarosol designed in Holland by
3:01:14
an American company and made in China, made
3:01:17
in China.
3:01:19
And it's called the Flarosol Olivia.
3:01:22
And this is a specific oil sprayer for
3:01:27
olive oil specifically.
3:01:30
So what does Flarosol mean?
3:01:33
What kind is that device?
3:01:34
It's a brand name.
3:01:35
It's just their company.
3:01:36
Okay, but it's a device.
3:01:37
Team Flarosol.
3:01:38
It's a device.
3:01:38
And then you look it up.
3:01:39
This is you find it on Amazon.
3:01:41
There's a bunch of Flarosol, F-L-A
3:01:43
-R-O-S-O-L.
3:01:45
You'll find a bunch of their products on
3:01:46
Amazon.
3:01:47
But the Olivia, which is the one is
3:01:49
the one I have, it's the one designed
3:01:51
specifically for spraying olive oil.
3:01:54
You think, well, I've seen these sprayers before.
3:01:56
I've got a bunch of different sprayers.
3:01:58
You squeeze a button and it sprays a
3:02:00
little bit.
3:02:01
And you spray it on pans if you
3:02:02
don't want to use waste oil.
3:02:03
Or you spray it over something that's been
3:02:05
cooked with olive oil flavors.
3:02:07
It adds that little...
3:02:07
Can you spray it on your salad?
3:02:10
You could spray it on your salads, but
3:02:11
I think you should mix the oil in
3:02:12
the salad dressing.
3:02:13
Okay.
3:02:14
But you could spray it on your salads
3:02:15
if you had some really flavorful olive oil
3:02:17
you wanted to spray.
3:02:19
This thing is, besides being gorgeous, it's phenomenal.
3:02:25
The spray is not just any old spray.
3:02:27
This is a, I can't even describe it,
3:02:30
but the spray goes out as a kind
3:02:34
of moon-shaped, kind of an ellipsis.
3:02:36
It's kind of an ellipsis.
3:02:39
It's an artsy spray.
3:02:41
It's very artsy.
3:02:42
And it has a feel that I've never
3:02:46
felt before in terms of the squeezing, when
3:02:49
you squeeze the lever to spray.
3:02:53
It's totally...
3:02:55
Anyone out there who cooks, this is just,
3:02:57
I'm telling you, take my word for it.
3:02:59
Whereas Adam would say, trust me, this is
3:03:04
a terrific product.
3:03:07
It's $26.99. It's a little...
3:03:08
I think that's kind of high for these
3:03:10
things.
3:03:11
Now, does it have a lever or a
3:03:12
trigger?
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Is it a trigger that you pull?
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That's a trigger.
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Can it also be used in the bedroom?
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If you want to spray your wife with
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olive oil.
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And there it is, everybody.
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Find them all at NoahJettaFun.com or tipoftheday
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.net.
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Trust me, bro.
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Also, you can always find these tips of
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the day on X.
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Nico Syme has always posted them.
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I think he maintains one of the websites,
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so it's good.
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These could be life-saving tips, everybody, just
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so you know.
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Also good is what's coming up next on
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the Noah Jetta stream.
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If you're listening live in your modern podcast
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app or whatever, you don't have to stop.
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The music keeps on going, as we used
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to say.
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DH Unplugged, episode 786, Back From Vacation.
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The boys are, so stay tuned for that.
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And End of Show Mixes.
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We have two classics.
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We've got The Machine Killing Machine and Donald
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Winkler.
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You'll recognize both of them if you've been
3:04:24
around, but they're good to listen to again
3:04:26
because it's all about bombing Iran.
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And I'm coming to you from the heart
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of the Texas Hill Country here in Fredericksburg,
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Texas, in the morning, everybody.
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I'm Adam Curry.
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And from Northern Silicon Valley, where I remain,
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I'm John C.
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Dvorak.
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We'll be back on Thursday.
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Please join us for another round of media
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deconstruction.
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I'm sure something will be happening that you
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need to find out what's going on.
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And always remember us at noagenthedonations.com.
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Until then, adios, mofos, hooey, hooey, and such.
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I'm gonna bomb you.
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I'm gonna hand it to you, folks.
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Now you're talking about you.
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We're gonna hand it to you, folks.
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Now you're talking about you.
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Sweet, sweet, easy, dirty, easy.
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I'm gonna hand it to you, folks.
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Now you're talking about you.
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Sweet, sweet, I'm gonna hand it to you,
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folks.
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I'm gonna hand it to you, folks.
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Sweet, sweet, easy, dirty, easy.
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I'm gonna hand it to you, folks.
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I'm gonna hand it to you, folks.
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Now you're talking about you.
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I don't care.
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They gotta be stopped.
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We need to kill them.
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We need to kill them.
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Bomb them.
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Bomb them.
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Bomb them, bomb them, and bomb them again,
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eh?
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We need to kill them.
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We need to kill them.
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Bomb them, bomb them, and bomb them again,
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eh?
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And bomb them again, eh?
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Bomb them, bomb them, and bomb them again,
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eh?
3:08:17
And bomb them again, eh?
3:08:19
Bomb them, bomb them, and
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bomb them again, eh?
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We need to kill them.
3:08:44
Bomb, bomb, bomb them again.
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Bomb them again.
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We need to kill them.
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And bomb them again.
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