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I am free, I am unshackled.
Adam Curry, John C.
Dvorak.
It's Sunday, February 22nd, 2026, this is your
award-winning Kibble Nation Media Assassination Episode 1845.
This is no agenda.
We've got shots fired and broadcasting live from
the heart of the Texan Hill Country here
in FEMA Region Number 6.
In the morning, everybody, I'm Adam Curry.
And from northern Silicon Valley where we discovered
the aliens are already here, I'm John C.
Dvorak.
In the morning.
Yeah, exactly.
I don't want to say anything, but we
do a second half of show, all of
a sudden, the alien files are being released.
I don't want to take credit, but I
think...
Coincidence?
I think not.
President Trump says he'll be directing the Pentagon
and other government agencies to identify and release
files related to extraterrestrials and UFOs.
Trump made the announcement on social media last
night, hours after he accused former President Barack
Obama of disclosing classified information during a podcast
interview.
Obama later clarified that he had not seen
evidence of alien contact, but that the odds
are good that life is out there because
the universe is vast.
All right.
I'm going to predict something.
We're going to see...
Absolutely nothing.
We're going to see nothing.
Absolutely nothing, as usual.
Absolutely nothing.
It's good to be back.
Of course, did you hear the...
Wow, you sound really bassy today.
What are you doing?
I sound bassy now.
Yeah, you sound like...
I have no controls over the bass, or
the horizontal, or the vertical.
Well, I don't know.
You have your regular mic?
Yeah, nothing's changed.
Maybe it's just...
Maybe like a fine wine, you're...
I mean, I'm kidding.
Bassy.
Bassier with age.
Did you hear that Hillary...
To get the show off to the right
start, did you hear the Hillary interview at
the BBC?
No, Hillary on the BBC?
What is she doing on the BBC?
Well, she's...
Well, you tell me.
You keep saying that you didn't know Jeffrey
Epstein, but your husband flew with him 26
times to party butt-naked in the island
with some girls.
And most people say that you killed Jeffrey
Epstein to silence him, just like the other
hundreds of mysterious deaths surrounding you and your
husband.
So, are you sure you didn't know Jeffrey
Epstein?
Okay, look, just because I killed the guy
doesn't mean I knew the guy.
Oh, okay.
Okay?
And can you please stop asking me questions
about Jeffrey Epstein?
A lot of reporters can go missing, you
know?
Accidents do happen.
People shoot themselves in the back three times,
if you know what I mean.
Anyway, let's talk about something else.
Wow, throwing out the AI clip of the
day right away, huh?
All right.
I actually do...
I have some...
I have a report from Channel 4 in
the UK, which is not AI, but does...
I think was kind of relevant to hear.
A Channel 4 news investigation today reveals that
all those pictures, emails, videos, and messages released
by the Department of Justice, said to be
over three million pages, may amount to just
a fraction of the Epstein material obtained by
investigators.
Why do we think that?
Because these raids on Epstein's properties, his Florida
mansion in 2005, and his fancy New York
townhouse and sprawling luxury island in 2019, saw
dozens of devices, computers, hard drives, and servers
bagged and tagged and brought to FBI offices
for examination.
Now, emails examined by Channel 4 news show
investigators discussing those very devices.
From the earliest stages, investigators were talking about
Epstein's data, totaling many, many times what has
so far been released.
In June 2020, one wrote, we expect the
data to be somewhere around 20 to 40
terabytes, noting that the total capacity of the
devices was up to 50 terabytes.
Then as recently as last year, long after
the investigations into Epstein, and his associates had
ended, the figures quoted remained massive.
We're looking at a total of approximately 14
.6 terabytes of archived data, said another email.
Yeah, where is this archived data?
Where's this 14.6 terabytes of data?
So I went through the first 3,000
photos.
Wow.
And- See, I leave the show for
a week and I cannot trust you.
Right away, you're going to the photos.
Okay.
So what did you find?
So I've come to a conclusion that was
a little different.
And I think all this is, I think
Trump is probably right.
This is a mountain out of a molehill.
When you look at all the photos and
you see the layouts of his private, what
I consider, I'll tell you what my thesis
is.
He was running a private hotel.
Yeah.
That was a brothel, that was a whorehouse
for high end customers that are billionaires, probably
almost exclusively, but I'm sure there's a few
hundred millionaires in there who can't in the
real world get laid.
Somebody like Reid Hoffman, who's worth, I think,
2.5 billion.
Now, how did he get his money, Reid
Hoffman?
LinkedIn.
Oh, he sold LinkedIn to Microsoft.
Microsoft.
Right, right, right.
He got his money from Microsoft.
Yeah, it's all in the family bill.
And a billion dollars, if you have a
billion dollars, that brings in $50 million a
year at 5%, which is a lot of
money, but you can't trust women because they're
going to take it for your money.
You can't trust a hooker.
All women, you never trust a hooker.
Nope, nope, nope.
Well, you could trust a hooker, but not
if you're worth a billion dollars.
It's just a problem.
And so, Epstein has set up shop, and
if you look at the floor plans, you
can see he has all kinds of rooms,
different suites.
There's about 30 rooms in his...
Well, I was listening to Wexner, some of
his testimony, and he was saying, yeah, the
place was a crap hole.
It was no good.
It was like a...
They were fixing it up.
It was still being fixed up as they
were taking...
And the worst was they had the pictures
that when they go to St. John's Island,
that place was incomplete.
There were still unfinished rooms they were still
working on.
There was cabanas, but it's designed for these
high-end guys.
Now, but let me ask you a question.
Do you think that as a brothel, that
it was used to, pardon the pun, curry
favor, or do you think that there still
was some blackmail at play?
Nope.
What's the point?
That's what I was thinking about.
What's the point of blackmailing somebody?
Let's say the fee is a million bucks
to you join this little...
You make an investment and want to...
Or you give Jeffrey some consulting money.
That's the fee to go to this place.
And you go to the place and they
have...
They said they had a catalog with different
girls.
You pick one or two out and they're
your companions.
And they, you know...
Wait a minute.
Where did you hear about this catalog?
The catalog came out about a couple of
weeks ago.
They talked about a...
It was like pick and choose?
Like point and click?
Yeah, yeah.
Like a pick and choose.
That was...
It was glossed over.
But it was like a pick and choose
thing.
So you go to the place and he
also had comedians staying there because you comp
rooms to guys.
They're not going to get any action, but
you give them a room and they hang
out.
You want a fun guy to talk with
at the bar?
Yeah, if you're going to go to the
bar.
And some of these places had kitchenettes.
And meanwhile, if you look at all the
pictures, you see they had a big laundry
room, just like a hotel does.
They had a big central kitchen, just like
a hotel does for room service.
Hold on.
The Slutalog.
I like that.
I'm writing that down.
Slutalog.
It's not a catalog.
It's a Slutalog.
Yes.
Okay.
It was just...
It looked just like a private hotel.
And you don't blackmail people for that because
you're already getting a million bucks, let's say,
a year for them to be a member
of this place.
And what are you going to blackmail them
for?
What are you going to blackmail Reed Hoffman
for?
Curry Favors?
What is he?
He just floats around podcasts.
He doesn't do anything.
I mean, there's no reason.
And he's over at the place all the
time because if you're kind of a fat
billionaire with not much of a personality, this
is perfect.
And that's all it was.
And the CIA, if they were keeping tabs
on anybody, it was just so they keep
notes.
And all this surveillance, which we have no
evidence.
They're not showing us anything.
The surveillance was for surveilling the girls.
They didn't want the girls doing deals on
the side.
They didn't want the girls stealing from the
guys.
Oh, I like that theory.
All right.
Well, that's what you would do in a
high-end place like this.
Girls catering to billionaires and you can't take
a chance.
And then on the side, you can say,
hey, I got some inside info from my
boy over there, Mandelson.
And you can make a killing right now
on the foreign exchange because they're about to
bail out the euro.
So you could pick up some tips along
the way.
He probably did pick up some tips along
the way, but that wasn't the main business.
I figured he could do $50 million a
year just maintaining that place.
And that's all it was.
And the fact that they're making it such
a fuss, now that I think about it,
what Trump has to say about it, because
he knew what was going on, because he's
in New York real estate.
Everybody knew what was going on.
So you're telling me that there were no
children that were being eaten and no pizza
with grape soda.
That's what I'm telling you.
Yeah, and you should also note that 17
years old is the age of consent in
New York City or in New York state.
Oh, really?
Oh, that's an outrage.
Oh, outrage.
And so they said, okay, so they had
some 17-year-olds in there.
Now the rest of it was all speculation
about the younger.
I mean, I'm sure some people tried to
horn in, but no, this was a professionally,
this was a kind of a genius marketing
just going for a high-class clientele.
There's 200 billionaires in California alone.
Yeah, it's a pain in the butt though
to have to travel to the East Coast
and go to that island.
Well, I'm just saying California, the funny, a
lot of them are back East.
They have places in New York.
I mean, and they can travel in their
private jets, you know, if they're going to
have a good time.
You know, what's really interesting is that because
of this Epstein stuff, everything, everything that people,
certainly people who are online and, you know,
posting and reading and, you know, wrapped up
in it.
Everything is through the lens of Epstein, like
Supreme Court decision over tariffs.
Oh, someone's got some compromise on, you know,
Epstein stuff.
It's like everything, everything is amazing.
That's the lens that people just see the
stuff through right now, except for New Mexico
representative on Andrea Romero, who is putting together
a truth commission about Zorro Ranch.
New Mexico's State House of Representatives is now
creating a bipartisan committee to investigate the property
that Jeffrey Epstein once owned in the state
known as Zorro Ranch.
They're investigating it for allegations of criminal activity.
The committee plans to partner with the New
Mexico Department of Justice for this deep dive
into allegations of abuse and sexual assault, possibly
committed at Zorro Ranch.
And joining us now to discuss is Democratic
State Representative Andrea Romero, one of the bill's
sponsors.
Representative, thanks for joining us.
So no one opposed this measure.
So the committee, the truth commission will be
created.
How does it feel to have this over
the finish line?
Well, it feels like we're just beginning really,
truly.
You know, we have been thinking about this
for a while, trying to find the mechanisms
in place to make sure that we can
be apolitical and ready to do business.
The reality for this commission is something that
our community desperately needs and needs to know
about.
You know, this is information that we're all
trying to put together nationwide and worldwide about
what went on and how it went on.
And for us in New Mexico, it is
so critical that we get this story straight.
And this is really interesting because there's not
a lot known about Zorro Ranch other than
- You're probably still setting it up.
This was your, this by the way-
Hold on.
Wait, I'm just going to say, this is
the West Coast version.
So these guys, like you just said, have
to fly all the way to New York.
No, they're going to fly to New Mexico.
Let me read this.
The age of consent in New Mexico is
16.
Oh man, you've got, do you have a
cheat sheet?
What's the age of- I'm telling you,
this whole thing was just a massive-
No, I'm not arguing against that.
No, well, you could argue a little bit.
No, I don't feel like arguing at all.
No, I think I'm kind of on board
with it.
You know, the thing is that people are
like, hey, you know, traffic children, America is
the worst.
You know, while this has been going on,
probably 1,200 to 1,300 actual sick
pedophiles have been arrested.
No one talks about it.
There's all kinds of operations going on.
Children have, actual children under the age of
16 have been freed from sex predator rings
that involve local sheriffs and lawyers and dentists.
That gets, I don't know why I said
dentist, but there was a dentist.
That gets zero coverage.
It's the most bizarre thing.
And this is not bizarre because it doesn't
involve Trump.
There you go.
This whole Zorro Ranch, this truth commission appears
to be based upon an email sent to
a local DJ about eight years ago.
There's an email in the Epstein files released
by the Department of Justice that mentions Zorro
Ranch.
It's an unverified claim that two women are
buried there, two women who died by strangulation.
The sender of this email has been redacted
by the DOJ.
It was sent to a local radio host
who told CNN he believes it came from
someone who worked on the ranch.
He passed the email onto the FBI when
it was sent in 2019.
Does your committee intend to push the Justice
Department for more answers regarding that email?
Yes, we do.
And we will go to the fullest extent
of the law to get those answers.
The reality that we understand is that that
email was sent and our then Attorney General
requested that the federal government investigate these claims,
that there was a request to do that
back in 2019.
But unfortunately, those requests went unanswered by the
federal government.
You know, we feel very challenged that we
have to be forced to do this ourselves
in New Mexico when those requests went unanswered.
Then here we are seven years later trying
to pick up the pieces.
Now you catch the bit there, 2018 during
Trump.
So Trump had that hidden.
That's the implication there.
Yep.
Now, of course, Epstein was into all kinds
of bio stuff.
And he was, you know, this is, that's
why he was hanging out with Weinstein and
all these people.
He was always trolling for the next big
thing.
What can we invest in?
Get a great IPO out of it.
And then there's the DNA replication scheme.
There was an unusual report in the New
York Times in 2019 that mentions Zora Ranch.
Jeffrey Epstein at one point, quote, hoped to
seed the human race with his DNA by
impregnating women at his vast New Mexico ranch.
That's what Elon Musk does for real.
The New York Times report says there's no
evidence this plan ever came to any sort
of fruition.
But is this some sort of scientific scheme
of Epstein's that you plan to investigate as
well?
Absolutely.
These allegations are horrifying about- What's so
horrifying about it?
Horrifying.
Horrifying.
What went on.
We have heard from victims that they may
have woken up in very strange places.
Where are these victims?
He's dead.
So why can't they speak out?
I find this- A really difficult process
to understand.
And that's so critically why we need to
know what the truth was.
Who were the folks in the room?
Who knew what happened?
And why were these never investigated?
Especially if victims came forward.
There it is.
Why wasn't it investigated?
All during Trump.
This is what's so critical about the public
understanding how this happened.
And certainly if folks came forward on a
crime, why was this never investigated?
So yes, we are looking to these various
records.
And again, every single day learn something horrifying
about what went on or allegedly went on.
Except she has nothing horrifying to tell.
Wait, wait, there's more.
Are there other claims about Zora Ranch and
the Epstein files that you intend to look
into further?
Yes, absolutely.
I mean, the claims are absolutely sprawling and
certainly very concerning.
We have allegations of everything from sex abuse
and trafficking to harming children of very young
ages.
It's horrifying what we're learning.
It seems every single day.
But we're committed to telling the truth and
making sure that there is a record.
And if needed, it would be pursued in
the court of law.
Well, it wasn't investigated for a lot of
reasons.
But one of them is that the alleged
perpetrators are very, very powerful, wealthy people.
Are you ready for that?
You know, this is unfortunately, well, fortunately, why
we are a bipartisan commission.
You know, we're not here to play politics
about anything.
We're really here to go on a fact
finding mission.
Who was involved?
And we understand even in our state that
it was the highest echelons of people who
are being named in these files.
And so for us, it's about making sure
that no stone is unturned.
Whoever it is that we find that may
have been a perpetrator in these crimes will
be named.
They will be named and we will recognize
what went on here.
And so, yes, the stretch is very wide
and potentially very deep.
But we will make sure that the public
knows what happened.
Well, so far we've got some fun names
like Pritzker from the Hyatt.
And of course, he must be related.
Yeah, billionaire Pritzker.
We got the douchebag Wasserman from LA.
We've got Prince Andrew.
Prince Andrew is the guy who's probably getting
screwed in all of this.
Yeah, there's a lot of people that think
that.
But of course, he brought it on himself.
Well, yeah, he's also a dope.
He's a den of douche.
He's always been a dope and a douche.
Yes, he always has been that.
We all know that.
You know, if you see a picture of
him when he's really young, you can see
why.
He was actually a pretty good looking guy
when he was young, when he married Fergie.
If you see some of those early wedding
pictures, he's one of those guys who relied
on his looks.
Well, Fergie also looked really good back in
the day.
Yeah, and she did the same thing.
Yes, exactly.
Exactly.
But yes, this is a couple of players
in this.
Based on my thesis, you want to look
into Virginia Gouffre.
I would advise reading her wiki page.
She is a troubled person.
The wiki page explains it quite well.
And I was very skeptical when she came
out.
And by the way, the first interview she
did, let's say she's a working girl or
became one under Epstein.
She charged $160,000 for that interview and
got it.
For the book or for...
No, the first interview in 2011 when she
broke this thing wide open.
This thing was going on for years, this
club.
And she broke it open in 2011 by
complaining.
And she didn't get a piece of the...
I see she wanted more money.
I don't know what the real basis was.
We never know.
But...
Well, what I found to be odd is
that she was hit by a bus and
then she wasn't, and then she committed suicide.
You know, her whole death is...
Everything is sketchy.
Unquestionable.
I mean, I love that Jake Tapper, how
he puts it.
He had another representative on.
Listen to this.
One of Epstein's most prominent victims, Virginia Giuffre,
who's no longer with us.
She allowed...
What does this mean, no longer with us?
It means she's not in the studio.
She's not available for interviews.
Why didn't she just say she committed suicide?
It's just a small thing.
Just a small irritation.
Who knows?
We don't know.
What do you have on Prince Andrew?
Oh, this is a report that was...
I think this is from BBC or NPR.
No, I mean, what kind of dirt do
you have on him?
Don't you have evidence?
I'm just kidding.
On Prince Andrew?
Just kidding.
Just kidding.
Oh, I see what you're doing.
Just kidding.
I'm sorry.
I'm sorry, slow on the uptake.
I got this big bassy voice now.
Yes.
Are you on a different network than you
usually are?
No.
Oh, because it's also robocopying a little bit
from time to time.
Oh, I can change networks.
Well, why don't you do it while I
play the first clip?
You want me to change networks?
Yeah, but you change networks while I play
the clip that you want me to play.
Hold on a second.
I got to make sure I can do
this.
Because I haven't changed networks for so long
that I don't want to like...
We're doing it live, people.
Doing it live.
But you see, my whole point was...
I think I can do it.
I got to figure it out.
Okay.
Yeah, I got a bunch of stuff here
that's worth playing.
Since you don't want to hear any more
of the thesis.
I thought this is part of the thesis.
I got your thesis.
I hear your thesis.
No, I think the only thing I had
in addition to the thesis...
I got the Prince Andrew clip.
Do whatever you want.
I was just going to say the last
thing in the thesis is Elon Musk.
Oh, okay.
Who wanted to join the club.
He knew about it.
And they wouldn't...
It's an exclusive club.
You had to...
You took one look at Elon Musk who's
already getting a bunch of sex from women.
He's paying $5 million to supposedly.
So Epstein was a deal.
He would have been.
But he's also...
You take a look at Elon.
Elon's got a big mouth.
You don't need some guy who's going to
be yakking about it just on a casual
podcast the next week.
Yeah, I'm over at this actually a whorehouse.
Who knows what would happen?
They couldn't let him in.
He rebuked him.
Oh, I like it.
All right.
Okay, that's it.
That's basically it.
Let's go to Prince Andrew.
This is Scott Simon on NPR.
Suffer and Succotash.
I'm Scott.
Thank you.
Simon.
Andrew Mountbatten-Windsor, brother of King Charles, spent
his 66th birthday in a police station this
week.
He was arrested on suspicion of misconduct in
public office after revelations in the Jeffrey Epstein
files that he'd shared confidential trade information with
the convicted sex offender.
The former prince was released after 11 hours.
He is denied any wrongdoing.
Jenny Bond has covered the royal family for
decades and spent 14 years as the BBC's
royal correspondent and joins us now from London.
Jenny, thanks so much for being with us.
My pleasure.
My pleasure.
How damaging is this scandal?
Well, it's a huge story over here.
The papers have been dominated by it for
days, even weeks.
And this weekend, it is page after page
after page of analysis of what this means
for the monarchy.
Just how damaging is it?
Clearly, it is tarnishing the reputation of the
monarchy, but the palace are very keen to
separate monarchy from family.
It's a difficult separation.
But I think the view, the predominant view
is that Charles has acted pretty decisively, maybe
a bit too late, but pretty decisively in
this.
And the big news today, the main line
is whether or not Andrew is now going
to be removed from the line of succession,
because incredibly, he is still eighth in line
of succession.
This is something that always comes up whenever
there's some kind of scandal in the UK.
Oh, it's a threat to the monarchy.
Threat to the monarchy.
It's never a threat to the monarchy.
What are they going to do?
What are they going to do to the
monarchy?
What are they going to do?
Threaten it.
Kick them out?
Kick them out of Buckingham Palace?
It's a threat.
Just a threat?
Shake your fist.
Yeah, exactly.
That seems to be like the pastime for
the Brits.
Oh, threat to the monarchy.
What will we do?
Yeah.
Yeah, it's pretty much, let's go to two.
Of course, King Charles said in his statements,
law must take its course and has not
intervened.
But what about the argument that they've been
aware of serious allegations against Andrew for years
and have effectively protected him?
Yes, this is the other big debate that's
going on.
And I think now we are at a
stage where we are demanding more transparency, more
accountability.
I think people do want to know exactly
that.
What did the royal family know about Andrew's
going on?
Well, with Epstein, as regards the sex abuse
allegations, but also now why he was arrested
was because of alleged misconduct in public office
when he was trade envoy.
So we've got two strands going on here,
at least two.
And we've now got more than 11, I
think it is, police forces in this country
circling Andrew, investigating different strands.
And there is this overriding feeling that the
palace have got to give up this whole
idea of never complain, never explain.
Abandon the old myth, which goes back to
the 1800s.
You must not let daylight into the magic
of monarchy.
It's all nonsense now.
No, this is what it's always been.
I watched The Crown.
All they care about is what's in the
paper.
Hey, you got more ink than I did.
No, that's all they care about.
And I consider that to be true.
I don't care.
They are wretched, soulless people.
It's a horrible gig.
And they have, you know, colluded bloodlines, cousins
and all kinds of stuff.
But somehow they still own a lot.
They own a lot of land.
They have a massive holdings.
I think the British royal family is estimated
50 billion, which I think is an underestimation.
That's probably low.
That's what I think too.
And they're not allowed to sell the land.
But this is why they have leasehold in
the UK.
Oh, you can build your house here.
But you have to pay us rent for
99 years.
And then it renews.
It's just like...
I think everything...
The fact doesn't...
The Queen is dead.
But didn't she own an island that's not
even part of the UK?
I don't know.
I forgot.
People out there know what I'm talking about.
It wouldn't surprise me.
Let's go to the last of this.
There is some feeling, as I probably don't
have to tell you, in the United States,
that, well, there's some admiration for the British
legal system.
Admiration?
Yeah, I understand that.
But Converse...
Yes, because of the Whigs.
I've been reading reports this morning...
Hold on a second.
Stop.
You have to listen to this one.
This is unbelievable.
This is...
We're talking...
We've done two segments, okay?
Can we do something to kind of slam
Trump?
Is there any way we can work Trump
into this?
Bring him in.
Bring him in.
Yeah, I understand that.
But conversely, I've been reading reports this morning
saying that if the Americans hadn't decided to
release the Epstein files, then we wouldn't be
where we are now.
And so I suppose for that, we should
be grateful.
But yes, I think that legitimately you could
ask now whether the American authorities should go
further with the people, not least President Trump,
who has been at least mentioned many times
in the Epstein files.
He says he's been exonerated.
I know, and perhaps he has been.
But I think the King has acted very
decisively here.
I mean, we were gobsmacked.
Veteran correspondents like myself, who've lived through decades
of scandals and crises, from the deaths and
divorces, the Fergie being found topless, having a
toe suction in the south of France, the
castle catching fire, rows about whether the Queen
should pay taxes.
All of that has been dreadful.
Of course, the death of Diana as well.
But I think we have been impressed by
the way the King has taken this straight
on and saying very clearly in a sentence
that stood out on its own, let me
state clearly the law must take its course.
Does he have to say that to preserve
the monarchy?
Well, I think he does, yes.
So a little rundown.
People who have had to resign or have
gotten into trouble for emails with Epstein.
Brad Karp, chairman of Paul and Weiss.
He resigned.
He's a lawyer, corporate law firm.
And that was the first law firm to
strike a deal offering pro bono work after
Trump targeted attorneys representing his political foes.
That's not exactly what it was, but okay.
It's a good narrative that they've created, though.
I like it.
Then we have Kathy Rumler, top counsel, Goldman
Sachs, White House counsel to former President Obama.
Yes, to Obama.
Which they left out.
If you read the newsletter, I had the
hypocrite of the week.
Oh yeah, I used to get all that.
CNN conveniently left that little tidbit out, heaven
forbid.
And she, in the emails, was downplaying his
sex crimes.
Go figure.
Casey Wasserman, I talked about him, the Hollywood
agent.
And I guess now they're calling for him
to resign from the Los Angeles 28th Olympic
Committee.
Yeah, that's a good one.
Everyone should resign from the Olympic Committee.
I don't think any of them are any
good.
Peter, Peter, Peter, they're always...
Yeah, you're right.
Those people are always really sketchy in every
country.
Even if it's just the local IOC.
Peter Atiyah, who was he?
He was, wasn't he with CBS?
I don't remember.
Well, he's, yeah, I think he's a contributor
to CBS.
Steve Tisch, chairman, co-owner of the Giants.
Howard Lutnick, everyone wants him to resign.
Of course, he's Trump's guy.
Mandelson, obviously.
Morgan McSweeney, that's the advisor to Starmer.
I said, hey, you can appoint that guy.
It's not a problem.
Norway's former prime minister, Torbjörn Jagland.
Jack Lang, French politician.
And then my favorite, Sultan Ahmed bin Sulaym.
And he enjoyed the torture video.
Yeah, he's the one who enjoyed the torture
video.
How can we, what torture video was this?
You think they'd get released, at least release
that?
You'd think they'd have something.
Yes, that sounds good.
So, but what has happened here?
And we were watching, last night we watched
a...
And by the way, I can explain that
with my whorehouse theory too.
Okay.
There are some women out there, it doesn't
take a genius to track them down, who
are complete, unbelievable masochists.
And who would probably agree for a fat
fee to be tortured and like it.
Oh man.
Sorry.
WHT, the whorehouse theory.
We're going to leave it in.
What this has done though, globally, because I
read the Dutch papers, people send me German
articles, which I can kind of get through.
And there is complete distrust, lack in all
government.
And Tina and I were watching yesterday, we
just came across it on Netflix, Breakdown 1975,
which is...
Ooh, is it good?
Yeah, it's very good.
Something I can watch?
Yes.
I've been watching Australian murder mysteries, it's how
bad it's gotten.
So Breakdown 1975 is, it's really, it's a
fractal is what it is.
You'll love it because they look at the
year 1975 from a popular culture point of
view.
So movies and television primarily.
And when you look at that time, it
was so similar.
We had scandals, we had Watergate, New York
was a shithole, rats were everywhere.
This is where movies come out like Taxi
Driver, you know, Death Wish, Charles Bronson.
Blackboard Jungle.
Black, yeah, all of this stuff.
And it's very analogous to now, with the
exception that it's probably not quite as bad
today as it was then.
And what came out of this...
Yet.
Yet, yeah.
Well, and so maybe we're a little bit
late because by 1976, things started to change.
And before you knew it, we had yuppies
and we had, you know, Jane Fonda was
doing workout videos, but it's worth watching.
It's narrated by Jodie Foster, who was in
Taxi Driver as I think a 13 year
old.
Yeah, yeah.
And, oh, and they pinpointed it.
This was interesting.
They pinpointed, so they had Jaws.
Jaws was a big change where they shifted
from the bad guy winning to the good
guy winning and blowing up the shark.
And then as they claim in this, in
this documentary kind of...
Yes, there was a period of time in
the movies, especially where the anti-hero.
Yes.
Was the key.
Was the winner.
Epitomized by Steve McQueen in a number of
films.
And what was the other one with the
bank heist?
Yeah, that was the Steve McQueen movie.
No, no, no, no, no, that wasn't...
Dog Day Afternoon, was that it?
No, I'm trying to think what...
But Dog Day Afternoon was really a sickening
film.
That was the bank heist, wasn't it?
No, I don't...
No, that was the one...
Dog Day Afternoon, wasn't that where they surrounded
the...
It was not as bad as the one
where they surrounded the precinct, but it was
something like that.
It was a bunch of creeps.
Well, all of that.
Whatever.
Everything was corrupt.
Everything was rotten.
People had no trust.
People actually were really starving, starving, starving in
our big cities.
Protests, everyone hated the cops.
Everyone hated the politicians.
And then all of a sudden, we got
Rocky.
And then everything changed.
Like, oh, all right.
We got this guy, and he makes it
up all the way to the top, and
he's running, he's doing his stuff.
And then things started to change.
So I'm just waiting for the pivotal movie
to come along.
Yeah, but there's a major difference here.
One is that we had an economic downturn
that started in 1969 and went throughout to
the 70s, very similar to and parallel, almost
completely parallel to the 30s, where you had
the bottom of the thing bottomed out in
33 as it did in 73.
And then you had a kind of a
renaissance two years later in 35.
And the movies in the 30s and 70s
are similar in their creativity.
But it was all based on the fact
that the economic downturn was controlling things.
At the point we're at right now, we
don't have that.
So the parallels are not that consistent.
I think that could happen, but it won't
happen for a couple of years.
Oh, well, that should keep us in business
for a while then.
I think so.
Yeah.
So this led me to...
Someone sent me a video and the video
is just kind of a narration.
I'll play it just for explanation's sake.
Unless you want to talk more about Epstein
or something.
Are we kind of done with that?
No, I'm done.
I got my thesis out there.
Now I can hang things off it for
the next few shows.
Yes, it's the whorehouse thesis.
We'll take it.
Universe 25 experiment.
Ever heard of this?
No.
Also known as the mouse paradise experiment.
Oh, this is where they had all the
mice and they all ended up just preening
and they ended up having sex and the
whole colony died out.
Yes, I'm familiar with it.
Yes.
I'm dubious, by the way, about whether this
really was...
I haven't seen the documentation for this experiment.
I have.
John B.
Calhoun.
Unless it's falsified somehow.
I think it could be.
I mean, it's too convenient.
Well, let's listen to it and let's just
take it as real and discuss it because
obviously it has a lot of relevance to
today.
This is why everyone is single and men
stop trying.
This is the mouse paradise, a scientific experiment
from the 1960s.
They made the perfect world for mice with
unlimited food, safety and no predators.
In the beginning, they placed four females and
four males and let them multiply.
The population exploded.
Hundreds, then thousands.
Then something strange happened.
They stopped mating.
And within four years, they were extinct.
But why?
According to scientists, the reason was social interaction
overload.
Just like humans on social media today.
They were in 24-7 interaction with thousands
of others.
Too much stimulation, too much competition for social
status.
And this led them to lose the ability
to form bonds, to mate and raise their
young.
Many males became so-called the beautiful ones.
They lost interest in females.
They just groomed themselves all day and withdrew
completely because they could not compete in this
chaos anymore.
And the females followed by losing interest in
males.
So no mating and they all just died
without having babies.
Since 2010 smartphones, humans are living the same
social interaction overload.
24-7 status competition.
Income and lifestyle comparison with thousands of others.
Physical looks to impossible standards.
And many young people just choose to withdraw.
For the first time in history, young people
are having less sex than their parents.
30% of men under 30 had no
sex for a year.
Loneliness epidemic hits us harder than any virus
could.
Yeah, that's worse than I thought it would
sound, to be honest about it.
So I do have a link from Scientific
American.
Yeah, I'd like to see that.
It does bring me to the phone clips
I have here.
Well, can I explain it first?
You just want to hijack it and talk
about something else.
No, no, I'm just telling you in advance
so you don't start jumping to another topic.
That was a trick.
Oh, it was a trick.
I'm sorry that you revealed my...
You blew it.
This is from PubMed.
John B.
Calhoun, population density and social pathology.
So it is real.
Now, of course, I haven't looked completely deep
into that paper if it's exactly the same,
but I'm just going to take it at
face value.
So the idea is they had enough...
Well, I mean, I like the idea.
Let's put it that way.
But it's a little too convenient for my
taste.
So they had enough food and space for
3,000 mice.
They throw a couple in there.
They start mating.
They get up to about 2,000, but
it's relatively limited space, like New York City.
And then suddenly they stop having sex.
They're not reproducing.
There's a whole class of male mice who
become the beautiful ones.
They're grooming.
They look great, but they won't have sex
with anybody.
And the conclusion from Calhoun is that it's
a social interaction overload.
And the comparison that's being made is that
we, as humans, and this is where I
actually question, okay, mice may have similar organs.
You can test vaccines on them, but I
don't know if we can compare our brains,
that humans are in a moment of social
interactive overload.
And thus, we become more interested in not
actually reproducing, but looking great on Instagram and
preeming.
And I think about that.
I'm like, yeah, that is exactly what is
happening, because there's just too much interaction with
not just on social media, but in general.
You're texting.
You've got alerts.
You've got this going on.
You've got that going on.
I think there's something to it.
Well, yeah, the problem is it's too convenient.
Too convenient for what?
It matches up too well.
Social interaction.
Coincidentally, we have the same thing going on
with the media or social media.
But you've been harping on this, and you're
susceptible.
This is almost like bias confirmation with you,
because you've always had this thesis for the
last 20 years about over socialization under something
or other.
Yes, so I am, in fact, Calhoun stole
this from me.
Yeah, that's what it almost sounds like.
I saw this, too, and I didn't clip
it.
I'm glad you did.
But it was like...
So it's going around.
I'm not the only one who saw it.
It's going around.
Oh, yeah, no, it's going around.
It was on Twitter.
Okay, okay.
Or X, X is on it.
X, X, X.
So, but talking about that brings me to
the cell phone conversation, which is going on,
which is the cell phone is the real
problem here at some level.
Before we go on, I think we need
to call it something else.
It's not a phone.
Who uses these to call someone?
Very few people nowadays.
I mean, we need to call it...
They're just on it scrolling, and they're holding
it as a...
And they're also holding it all the time.
Again, I'd give you credit for this one,
because I didn't catch it right away.
Because I keep my iPhone in a drawer.
But you noticed that, and I've noticed it
now.
And now I see, and it's actually gotten
worse, where people walk around the street holding
the phone, like it's like some pet or
something.
They have to have the phone in their
hand.
Yeah, well...
While walking down the street.
I have to...
It's like a controlling slab or a...
A controlling slab.
Security slab.
I mean, this...
You're on, you're getting there.
Yeah, I like the slab thing.
I'd like, I'd like freedom controller.
I've used that for different things throughout the,
you know, 30 years.
So maybe that's not, but...
No, no, it's no good.
A controller slab.
That's really, truly what it is.
I had an interesting...
Something interesting happened, you know, I was in
Nashville all last week.
Friday morning, I get up.
And I had that, that funky flip phone
from the...
I had, you'll find out why, from Samsung,
the Galaxy Z Flip.
Oh, yeah, that one.
So I broke, I broke the previous one.
I'm like, okay.
And that was my own fault, because these
things are just so fragile.
And so I got a new one.
And I wake up and I go to
unplug the phone.
And it's hot.
Like, wow, it was hot.
And I see the battery going like 95,
90, 89.
It's going down pretty quick.
So I plug it in.
You know, it's, it kind of hovers between
85 and 87.
It's going up and down.
I don't know what's going on with this.
So we had meetings, had to get to
the airport.
And so here's your modern life.
This is the way I had planned it.
Oh, I'll just get an Uber from the
hotel to the airport.
Nashville's like 15 minutes.
And so I have 35% by, it's
one o'clock.
I haven't used the phone at all to
get the Uber.
Get in the Uber.
I see it going down, going down.
Now, luckily, I was still able to retrieve
my reservation number.
So I get my paper ticket, because I
don't do any tickets on the phone.
I go through TSA and this thing dies.
And I'm thinking, like, I can't tell Tina
that I'm on my way.
I can't tell the person who's going to
pick me up at the airport.
And I'm like, well, I can plug it
in on the plane.
That'll be good.
And I'll probably get some juice out of
it.
Of course, I have the only Southwest 737
that has no power, no USB, nothing.
And like, this thing has way too much
importance in my life.
And I'm not talking about X or anything
like that.
Just for some simple things in travel.
Yep, it's a controller, controlling slab.
Controller slab, maybe, might sound better.
Controller slab, yeah.
Or control, I don't know, because control, yeah.
You've got the right words.
I'm getting there, I'm getting there.
It has nothing to do with the phone.
Calling it a phone is weak and pathetic.
And here was the next thought I had.
Because of the constant holding it in your
hand, I got to have it with me.
Oh, in case I need to take a
picture.
Now, with the AI chatbots, and I should
mention, this thing is fried.
You know, something got short-circuited.
It's completely fried.
It'll never come back to life.
And I went back to my Graphene OS,
and I'm fine with that on my Pixel
6a.
I'm done with it.
But in the course of trying to troubleshoot
this thing, you know, I'm going through, I'm
on Gemini.
Okay, I'm at a certain point.
I have a USB cable hooked up.
I am SSH-ing into the phone, because
there's a basic Unix kernel underneath.
I'm doing HTOP.
I'm looking at what is eating the processors.
I'm looking at all the apps.
And all of a sudden, it's like, hi,
I'm Bixby.
How can I help you today?
Bixby, who are you?
That's, Samsung has just installed Bixby the robot
on the phone.
And you look at all this stuff.
Meta, I've never had a meta app on
this phone.
It has something in there.
It's trolling.
It's doing all kinds of stuff.
This is a horrible thing.
They pack it filled with all kinds of
junk and spyware and so-called helpful things.
You just want to swipe a window away.
Oh, here's Google AI.
Oh, would you like to change this picture?
Hi, I'm Gemini.
Would you like me to help you compose
the next email?
No, no, stop going.
And here's the thinking I had.
This robot stuff is a distraction.
Let's presume for a second AI is really
intelligent.
We know it's not.
But to me, the AI has a huge
advantage.
It already has humanoid movement.
It tells people what to do.
We are the robots.
The way people are going, talking to these
chatbots and the brain is in the phone.
And you are the robot.
It's going to tell you what.
It already tells us how to drive.
It already tells us everything else.
How to dress.
Oh, it's cold.
We're being assimilated.
Not me.
No, not you, I know.
I'm just catching myself.
Oh no, this has got to stop.
It's got to stop.
It's got to stop.
It's exactly the reverse.
And if you and you and you all
these worries of yours, because you couldn't call
the Uber because the phone was dead.
If you were one of the kids today.
I'd be dead.
No, you'd be fine.
You'll figure it out when you play these
cell phone clips why you'd be fine.
All right, let me see.
Where are these cell phone clips?
Are they labeled cell phone clips?
Yeah, they're labeled cell.
All right, cell phones in school.
Number one, is this NPR?
Yes, it is.
Are halfway through the school year for millions
of students.
That means they should be heading to class
without their cell phones.
More than 30 states have now enacted some
kind of ban, and that includes Kentucky.
NPR Sequoia-Carrillo checked in with educators and
students in Louisville, which has one of the
strictest policies in the state.
They told her the ban is not quite
working out the way it was supposed to.
Good morning.
How are you doing?
Holly Smith is in her second year as
executive principal at the Academy at Shawnee.
She says she can already see a big
difference from a semester without cell phones.
We didn't even know the majority of the
kids were learning because they weren't responding.
They were just doing things on their phones.
But now there's discourse.
They're like, OK, I actually feel like I'm
connecting now.
Jefferson County's policy is strict.
Each student has a yonder pouch, a locked
bag for them to carry their phones throughout
the day.
They have to put them in the bags
when they walk in the school in the
morning and can unlock them as they exit
the school at the end of the day.
It's a well-laid plan, one that many
schools around the country have adopted, and researchers
have touted as the best approach to the
issue of cell phones in schools.
But the real question is, is it working?
I asked Smith what the students think.
I mean, I think they absolutely hate it.
Their phone is their lives.
It's their world.
Jayden O'Neill, a senior here, couldn't agree
more.
I think all the students hate it.
I think they're going to rebel more.
She's one of three students who agreed to
talk to us in the school's library right
before their lunch period.
I just want to make a note of
the term yonder pouch.
I think this would be an excellent premium.
I don't even know what it is, but
I like how it sounds.
A yonder pouch.
Well, you should talk to the No Agenda
shop.
Maybe they can make a yonder.
Is that just a little bag you put
your phone into?
I think it's a bag, yeah.
I think it probably may have some mesh
in there, I would hope.
So I'm going to just presume that, of
course, the kids are happy.
It's great.
I feel better in class.
Whereas, you know, they're in a controlled environment.
They can't last for three seconds outside of
the school without their controller slab.
I think you may be wrong.
Take me back to August.
Like, right when you come back to school,
what is it like having to lock up
your phone?
In August, it was like you'd walk in
the doors and they'd tell you to find
the pouch that had your name on it.
And then they watched you lock it up.
And it was like most kids either brought
a spare phone or they said they didn't
have a phone or they broke the pouches
and cut them open.
People brought a spare phone.
They just had an extra phone.
They had multiple extra phones.
We also talked to senior Quanay Lanier.
They have multiple extra phones for their friends.
I asked junior Joseph Jolly whether students are
abiding by the ban.
I would say that the risks from being
caught are definitely more enforced.
So people often, they're really worried about that.
But I would otherwise say they mostly just
put them in their pockets and they call
it a day.
There is rules.
Like, if you have your phone, I will
take it.
But it's not enough for people to care.
Like, I know one day they're not going
to say anything.
So I'm just going to keep doing it
regardless.
As we talked, students were moving through the
halls between classes.
Most kids were chatting, but a few still
had headphones on.
And one had a phone out taking a
selfie video.
Jolly said we wouldn't necessarily see the same
thing inside the classroom.
People know they're going to get in trouble
if they keep it out.
They've started to actually focus on work.
And I think we've become more productive because
of that.
I think they just find alternative things to
do.
Or they just talk more to their friends.
Okay, so kind of at the end there.
So you have the, that's what you, you
see the kids are smart.
They have multiple phones.
They're like Wall Street brokers.
They have three phones.
Drug dealers.
If you brought your other phone, you would
have been fine.
Oh, I forgot to mention.
I forgot to mention.
One of the instructions the brilliant Gemini AI
gave me was to clear out the Google
Play framework data.
Clear cache, clear data.
Then immediately my phone went, I can't log
in anything.
There's nothing we can do.
But you can log into Google.
I guess for, I don't even know what
it was, but nothing was working.
Say, okay, I'll log into Google and I
have my username.
I have my password.
You don't have any pass keys.
No, I've never set that up.
Well, it's okay.
Just grab your other phone and tap on
the icon that matches the one I'm showing
you now.
I have one phone.
You have to have your secondary device with
you.
What is that all about?
That's insane.
Even the kids know better.
So it's, yes, it's very bad.
In fact, there was a, yeah, well, let's
do that.
How about the lawsuit?
The meta lawsuit that people are saying they
got addicted to Instagram.
You've heard about this.
I think it's in Arizona, I believe is
where it's playing.
Actually, I have not heard of it, but
it doesn't surprise me.
Well, luckily enough, our girl Kara Swisher, who
you personally gave media training to, joined up
with Anderson Cooper to talk about this.
But go ahead, Kara.
It's breaking news, Mark Zuckerberg, the powerful CEO
of Meta.
It's breaking news.
Testified in a landmark trial in Los Angeles
today where social media companies are accused of
intentionally addicting children to their platforms.
Now, Meta, of course, owns Instagram, which is
a defendant in the suit.
This is the first time that Zuckerberg has
testified in front of a jury on claims
that social media harms children's mental health.
He's testifying as a witness, not a defendant
in this case, which was brought by a
woman who claims the companies designed their products
to addict her when she was a child,
damaging her mental health.
Hundreds of more cases like this have been
filed.
Kara Swisher joins me now, hosts the podcast
On with Kara Swisher and Pivot.
How big a moment does this feel like
to you?
How big a moment?
Obviously, it's a landmark case.
We've seen Zuckerberg testifying.
Their courtroom is a different arena.
Yeah, I think it's just yet another appearance
and doing the same thing where they've done
nothing over the many years.
And then they have these testimonies of parents
that feel like their kids have gotten hurt
or there's safety issues or addiction issues.
And they sort of sail by them.
I mean, this is obviously a court case,
but it's sort of more of the same.
I've been hearing this from Zuckerberg since I
met him, essentially, is that everybody wants to
use these apps because they're so fantastic and
not that there might be problems using them.
So Kara Swisher and Professor Scott Galloway.
How's that boycott going, Scott Galloway?
They're always talking about age gating.
We've got to age gate for alcohol, for
cigarettes.
We should be age gating for these apps.
It turns out even Kara knows that age
gating doesn't work because kids are smart.
And the plaintiff in this case began using
Instagram at nine.
There was some heated testimony about Instagram's age
verification rules, keeping kids under the age of
13 off it.
Is there any reason to think that that
is a sufficient safeguard?
No, not at all.
They took years and years, I think just
until 2019, to really have a version of
age gating.
And it's a very light one in place.
I was surprised to see, what is it,
4 million 10 to 12-year-olds on
the platform when nobody under 13 is supposed
to be on it.
I love this.
Everyone's so upset about evidence we have not
yet been able to produce about Epstein.
Yet there's 4 million kids being abused on
a daily basis by social media.
Obviously, they're not doing a great job of
keeping people off.
And a lot of the emails talk about
the idea of employees who wanted more guardrails
and them not being put in place because
of the leadership.
They have all kinds of arguments.
Why not?
And by the way, they're not the only
one.
YouTube is right now on trial here and
others.
There's many others.
And this is a question of whether these
are addictive experiences and products, or are they
just so great that we can't stop using
them?
Seems like the same thing to me.
But they're trying to call it problematic usage
versus addiction.
And that's what they'll try to do.
They'll try to blame the victim for her
own problems and that didn't happen because of
them.
But certainly, all of us know social media
is a problem, whether it's on partisanship or
making us hate each other, making us feel
bad or making girls have less self-esteem
or boys be more isolated.
I think anyone who's a parent knows this.
And anyone who's a person knows this.
Using these apps can be really problematic.
Problematic.
So the problem here is the parents who
are setting this example themselves and here is
in fact.
Yeah, they got the phone at the dining
room table.
They're on it all the time and they're
walking around with it in their hands 24
-7.
I know we sound like boomers, but we're
just identifying the problem.
When I was a kid, we didn't have
such a thing.
And then they have it in the bedroom
sitting there and they use it as an
alarm clock.
Oh my God.
I think you do too.
No offense.
Now, listen to Anderson Cooper as he discusses
his social media issues.
Well, even for adults.
I mean, you know, I mean, I'm on
Instagram and I find myself, you know, occasionally
getting sucked in and, you know, just scrolling
and feeling terrible about my life because everyone
seems to be having a much Anderson Cooper.
Wow.
An actual this.
That is OK.
I'm good.
By the way, before we finish, that's a
clip of the day that because you you
have a call back.
Excellent work.
Excellent work.
Thank you.
I said it.
Thank you.
I worked on that.
I like I better not screw this up
because John will already you'll give it the
punch line away.
This is this is pathetic.
This is really, really pathetic.
Let's just listen to that one more.
So pathetic.
He is Anderson Cooper.
I'm so jealous of the girl in the
bikini.
Look how good she looks.
Did you see the video that is floating
around of the woman who has a filter?
She's like she's filter.
She had a filter and the filter was
failing and went back and forth and back
and forth real fast showing your real face.
No, I haven't seen.
Oh, my God.
Just some ugly duckling.
Well, even for adults.
I mean, you know, I mean, I'm on
Instagram and I find myself, you know, occasionally
getting sucked in and, you know, just scrolling
and feeling terrible about my life because everyone
seems to be having a much more exciting
life.
And how is this possible?
He is a Vanderbilt.
He's a Vanderbilt.
He is.
He must have money outside of CNN.
And how can his life be worse?
Clearly, it's not.
No, clearly, it's not.
He's in a Buffalo.
He's in a gay.
He's on television.
Yeah.
And a gay.
No, he's a plus gay for sure.
He looks good for his age.
Everything's rocking and rolling.
He has stature.
Well, I guess he's leaving CBS, but, you
know, doing 60 minutes.
Do you know he was also 60 minutes.
He was a 60.
Oh, he's got space on 60 minutes, too.
Yeah.
Special correspondent.
He's living there?
What?
Yeah.
I read that somewhere.
What a life.
What a life.
And yet and yet he is now trying
to understand and having an adult conversation with
a semi-adult Kara Swisher.
We don't know what she is.
To say it happens to me, too.
Well, hello.
The gamification aspect of getting the dopamine hits
of likes and followers and things like that.
And apparently Anderson Cooper is worried about getting
likes and followers.
What?
What is what's going on here?
Well, it's designed, as I said earlier today,
like a casino of attention.
It's not the same thing as watching a
movie.
It's not this.
They do make those arguments.
They call it entertainment now, but it's not
entertainment.
It's something else.
And I'm not sure what to call it.
But it does feel like a casino.
You can't look away from the lights.
You can't stop pressing the button.
You can't stop going to the next red
button.
And it can make you feel bad, especially
if your feeds are bad.
It can make you feel isolated and all
kinds of things.
And I think everybody knows this.
And that's going to be the problem here
for Facebook is the jury probably has addiction
problems of their own, even if Facebook doesn't
want to call it addiction.
Facebook executives.
But everybody understands the relationship with the phone
has gotten toxic, especially for young people.
She makes a good point.
The jury is going to be hooked, too.
We're doomed.
Society is doomed.
Oh, yeah.
I've said it before.
Since 2007, when that phone came out, Satan's
tool.
All we need.
And I'm not the religious one here.
But it is.
It is the attack vector.
The controller slab is the attack vector of
life.
If anybody doesn't see the symbolism of having
an apple on the back with a bite
taken out of it, then you're missing the
point.
The serpent has struck.
Yes.
All we need to do.
I got a great idea.
Have the phone talk back to you and
have a conversation.
What else could go wrong?
It couldn't be any worse than it could
go wrong.
It couldn't be any worse.
By the way, I nailed I nailed myself.
I got the.
Now I'm going to you're going to have
to be.
I have to be careful now because every
time he's done that you ever see when
you're trying to do addition and somebody just
throws numbers out into the air and those
numbers go into your calculation.
I have to now be very careful not
saying it.
No, neither of us have said it yet.
I'm just angry at myself.
Don't worry about it.
I won't mention it anymore.
I'm not worrying about it.
I know a lot of our of our
producers.
Yeah, they bitch and moan that we worry
about it.
So I have I got in through the
mail.
Actually, you sent it FedEx.
I have here.
This thing is huge.
A GeoForce RTX with a dark power 13
block attached to it.
That is what is this?
This is an Nvidia GPU.
Oh, the GPU.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Wow.
That thing is huge.
At least like three grand or something.
Not six.
No, not this one.
I don't know if it's this one.
But our producer sent it to me.
I mean, he's who knows where what what
business he's in.
Like, I got one laying in the closet.
I've got a tracker on it.
I hope so.
Everything you do to it's going to go
to China.
He's already loaded it up with all the
AI models, a little Raspberry Pi attached to
it.
The whole thing is phenomenal.
Very, very excited about this.
There goes the show.
What do you mean, there goes the show?
I'm going to be creating the best.
You'll be dicking around with that device.
The best ISOs ever.
The best ISOs ever.
Well, that could be.
The other big news in AI world, which
we have obviously been predicting, is, you know,
the Sea Dance.
The Sea Dance, where they recreated a fight
scene between Tom Cruise and Brad Pitt.
And the movie industry is outraged, I tell
you.
Have you seen this epic new Brad Pitt,
Tom Cruise movie?
You haven't?
Well, actually, no one has, because it's not
real.
But take a look at this AI generated
clip.
It's created using a platform called Sea Dance
2.0. It's an AI tool from the
Chinese owned company, ByteDance.
It went viral last week, sparking a fiery
debate between Hollywood and the multi-billion dollar
tech industry.
That is not Tom Cruise, and that is
not Brad Pitt.
But it sure looks like both of them.
Let's talk about this with Sean Astin.
He's the president of the entertainment union SAG
-AFTRA.
You might remember him, of course, from so
many movies.
The Goonies, Woody, Lord of the Rings.
The Goonies!
Your union released a statement Friday condemning the
clip and ByteDance, saying, quote, SAG-AFTRA stands
with the studios in condemning the blatant infringement
enabled by ByteDance's new AI video model, Sea
Dance 2.0. The infringement includes the unauthorized
use of our members' voices and likenesses.
This is unacceptable.
Can you stop it for a second?
Yeah, sure.
Did ByteDance pay for this?
Because they keep mentioning the product and the
2.0, and they keep dropping everything, all
the details in.
It seems a little suspect.
Possible.
That's possible.
It's also, you know, the, oh, China's going
to kill us all meme is in there.
Oh, the Chinese, the Chinese, the Chinese.
Infringement includes the unauthorized use of our members'
voices and likenesses.
This is unacceptable.
And it undercuts the ability of human talent
to earn a livelihood.
Open AI had a similar issue.
And they very quickly reinforced the idea that
they had an opt-in policy, even though
they were sort of in an opt-out
modality.
Meaning performers can see themselves.
Brian Cranston can see himself and say, you
know, hey, you're not supposed to have that.
And they go, sorry, take it down.
Or they can say, hey, Brian Cranston, we
want to use your image and likeness.
It's going to get your permission.
And he'd have the opportunity to make that
decision and get compensated for it and so
forth.
So we have an important piece of federal
legislation called the No Fakes Act, which is
in the Judiciary Committee now in the Senate.
And it would enshrine that right.
That right to our own voice and likeness.
The No Fakes Act.
Here's Hollywood desperately clinging on to relevance when,
if you really look at that, that fight
scene was a great fight scene.
It's better than them filming an original fight
scene.
It's fantastic.
I've not seen it.
I've never seen it.
Oh, it's really good.
You're a journalist.
Your job is to make sure that the
First Amendment is protected.
What?
What?
What?
Let me write down this on the list
of things that journalists do.
So let's just hear that again.
Let's make sure that we're all understanding the
First Amendment here.
You're a journalist.
Your job is to make sure that the
First Amendment is protected and is respected and
observed.
And in the entertainment industry, both the companies
and the talent have the same sense of
you know, reverence for the First Amendment, but
you shouldn't be able to.
Somehow the First Amendment is being infringed on.
No, you can talk about copyright law, maybe,
but this copyright law, for sure.
This, this idiot from, well, we know you're
from the Goonies.
He's now saying that not only is copying,
digitally copying and manipulating material someone owns is
a First Amendment rights issue, which has nothing
to do, there's no rights, but journalists are
supposed to be protecting this?
This is who the head is.
This is, is this the head of SAG
-AFTRA?
Yeah, I think.
It's an embarrassment to give it is.
Let me check out, make sure exactly what
it is.
Make me say something I didn't say or
do something I didn't do or depict me
in a way that I wouldn't, you know,
in a setting I wouldn't put myself.
That's just basic fundamental fairness.
It goes not just to the professional.
How's that different than acting?
He is indeed the president of SAG-AFTRA.
How is that what he just said?
Back it up.
How's that different than acting?
Let's listen again.
Or do something I didn't do or depict
me in a way that I wouldn't, you
know, in a setting I wouldn't put myself.
That's just basic fundamental fairness.
Yeah, it's acting.
Good point.
Not just to the professional entertainment industry.
It goes to kids who are abused in
this way.
It goes towards anyone in our country and
around the world who is, you know, when
they post stuff on social media, when they
find themselves, their images captured in whatever ways
that they are subject to this same sort
of abuse.
So it's time to put real guardrails in
place that protect us.
Not to mention all these companies that don't
really design these cityscapes or whatever.
They just plagiarize them from the work of
other people.
Sean Astin, thank you.
Please come back.
We want to be talking about this and
making sure artists are represented in this debate.
We really appreciate it.
And we're all huge fans.
My director just showed his kids Goonies over
the weekend.
Just FYI.
The union?
Goonies never say die.
No, he was in the Goonies.
He was in movies.
He's a kid actor.
True.
But these are the same people who are
taking notes from the Netflix executives to reiterate
the plot every 10 minutes in a Netflix
movie because the audience has no attention span.
Because it's longer than three minutes.
This movie lasts more than three minutes.
I mean, please.
We've seen this happen in Unpacked before our
very eyes.
It started with captions.
Gotta have the captions on.
If I don't have the captions, I can't
follow the movie.
Yeah, that's right.
We talked about this before the caption thing.
Can you do me a favor?
I can try.
And send the spreadsheet from Jay and her
page to my Google account.
Just forward it.
Okay.
Well, if you play a clip, then I
can do that.
Well, I can play a bunch of clips.
No, just one.
How about playing the clips?
I kind of put it aside here.
Just one is fine.
If somebody has sent this in, I went
and reclipped it so it's a little better,
about Keith Olbermann.
He's still around?
Yeah, Keith Olbermann talking about how he's become
a media deconstructor.
What?
Olbermann on media one.
Every once in a while, I begin to
suspect that this podcast will eventually turn into
a media criticism podcast.
Every once in a while, I suspect you
believe that this podcast has already turned into
such of a podcast about the media more
than about politics or Trump or anything else.
Because if we stop and think about it,
beyond the natural problems that we have had
with what we all thought were laws and
that turned out just to be traditions and
things that men of goodwill would observe to
keep the form of government here largely democratic.
Apart from that overarching problem that has led
us here to the precipice of eternal damnation,
the second biggest collapse, the second weakest guardrail,
the guardrail that second most turned out to
be made out of oatmeal and paper mache
is the media.
There has been another array of disasters in
the media in the past week from CBS
News, or what was formerly CBS News, from
CNN again, from a man I used to
work for named Andy Lack at NBC, formerly
of NBC, though they fired him twice, and
from Jake effing Tapper.
You want to send to your Gmail?
Yeah.
You know, there's something very wrong with your
email.
Just as a quick aside, when the guy
trying to help you with a newsletter email,
his name is Mark Void Zero, when his
email is sent back as fake, when he's
trying to send you information about how to
fix the email.
We have a basic problem.
Yeah, I'm working on it.
I'm aware of the issues.
And I use the issues as plural.
Yes.
All right, so that's the intro.
We've got Olbermann, and he is setting himself
up as some kind of uber dude over
everything else.
Yeah, and so I do have the deconstruction
that he actually does on a clip, which
is the last clip, which is Olbermann 3,
I think.
You don't want to play 2?
You want to play?
But if you want to play 2, it's
more entertaining to play 2 and 2A.
There's 2 and 2A.
This is classic.
This is an example of what kind of
objectivity we can expect in his deconstruction.
Okay.
So Trump is now trying to win line
-level service members, the line guys, the youngsters,
the ones Trump thinks are the suckers and
losers.
Trying to win them with some vague idea
in his mind that if the commissioned officers
and the generals and the joint chiefs are
told to shoot up a voting precinct in
Chicago and they refuse, well, the raw troops
from Fort Bragg will do it anyway out
of loyalty to Trump and might even shoot
the officers if Trump asks them to.
Like this is the Soviet revolution as it
played out on their western front against the
Germans in 19-effing-17.
It is absolutely- What is the effing
thing?
Is this a new thing?
Jake effing Tapper, 19-effing-17, Keith effing
Olbermann?
He cusses constantly, but he uses effing.
Oh, okay.
Out on their western front against the Germans
in 19-effing-17.
It is absolutely possible that the midterms could
come down to the joint chiefs of staff
actually standing up on their hind legs like
something out of the government overthrow movie Seven
Days in May.
It is absolutely possible that the names of
the people Mark Kelly and Elissa Slotkin were
actually talking to in the video they and
the four house members made will become very
familiar to us in October and November and
December.
Names like General George and Admiral Franchetti and
Commandant Smith.
And yes, in the wildest of political science
fiction scenarios, they might all have to get
together and lock General Kane, lock General Kane
in a room somewhere while they make sure
the personnel under their command do not seize
ballot boxes or begin to turn us into
a military dictatorship and do not start shooting
civilians.
And Trump does not pop out of a
bunker wearing his special new uniform with the
big hat personally designed and gifted to him
by Kim Jong-un.
Now, are there more people who watch Keith
Olbermann besides you and Darren and Larry?
I mean, are you...
I don't watch him at all.
If it wasn't somebody sending me this clip
about him deconstructing, I wouldn't have even gotten
these.
I'll just play this next one, which is
the end of what he just said, the
Trump 2A, and then an example of his
deconstruction.
You won't hear from him again on this
show for a year.
It cannot be said too many times.
There is no future for Trump and these
scumbags around him.
Rubio, Vance, Stephen Miller, Nome, Hegseth, Patel, Gabbard,
Kushner, Trump's two idiot sons.
There is no future for any of them
if the Democrats win the House and the
Senate.
I'd argue there is virtually no future for
any of them if the Democrats just win
the House.
For Trump, the midterms are not the future
of his agenda and his policies.
For his minions, this is not the future
of their plans or their money.
For Trump, the midterms are life and death,
his.
He either gains control of this country permanently
through the rest of his life or virtually
permanently, or he will die in prison.
This guy just had...
All I'm hearing is diarrhea of the mouth.
It's just blah, blah, blah, blah, Trump, blah,
blah.
Okay, so now we get to the true
deconstruction.
Okay, so now this next clip, which is
the last one.
This is him deconstructing some CBS stuff.
He hates CBS now because this is Barry
Weiss.
Of course.
So he's going to deconstruct a story and
then show how screwed up it is.
And the structure of what he does is,
you have to remember that he is the
mentor of Rachel Maddow.
Mentor or mentee?
He's the mentor.
He mentored Rachel Maddow.
Yeah.
Wow.
Yeah, she came into the network at MSNBC
after he had established himself.
Another person banned from the show.
She came in and he taught her the
ropes and she became a version of him.
And then she passed it on to Hayes,
that other guy.
And it's got watered down along the way.
And she was a little better at doing
this because she had all these expressions and
she didn't look like a lunatic.
And she had all these sad faces and
she'd cry.
But the structure of what you're about to
hear is exactly Rachel Maddow.
She got it from him.
And listen carefully because there's a trick in
here.
He pulls a stunt.
And I don't know whether he does it
on purpose, which I have to assume because
he can't be this dumb, or he does
it because he's that dumb.
We'll see.
Here we go.
On February 9th, Tony DeCouple already, once again,
put a hole in whatever reputation he had
as a newsman at some point in his
past when he announced on their newscast, the
CBS quote, evening quote news, ICE arrested nearly
400,000 people in President Trump's first year
in office.
Of those nearly 60% had criminal histories,
meaning charges or convictions, including many for serious
crimes such as drug trafficking and child pornography
and several thousand cases involving rape or murder.
Those are some pretty heavy statistics.
That's a very important story.
And it is to some degree surprising that
you're probably hearing this for the first time.
400,000 people arrested of those 60%
had criminal histories, drug trafficking, child pornography, several
thousand rapes or murders.
The books were cooked.
Trump is not right.
Trump is not dragging off only the violent
criminals, the worst of the worst.
The number had been rewritten.
The facts had been changed into what Tony
DeCouple read to present a fake picture, to
falsify reality.
CBS had its own online report on its
website, which has not yet been corrupted by
Barry Weiss and Tony DeCouple and the others.
The CBS story, using the same data from
the same sources, reads less than 14%
of those arrested by ICE in Trump's first
year back in office had violent criminal records.
Document shows.
So between the actual number, which is less
than 14%, and this dire picture of nearly
60% had criminal histories, somebody changed the
facts from the facts to lies that DeCouple
promptly spewed on the CBS Evening News.
Oh, yeah.
No, it's obvious what he did there.
He changed it from criminal record to violent
criminal record.
Yeah, you spotted it.
So easy to spot.
Rachel does this all the time, too.
And it's just like it was disingenuous because
in his original, when he talks about the
60%, he does mention the thousands of super
violent crimes, which would include murder and whatever.
And that accounts for the 14%.
He never puts that together correctly.
He's the liar.
Yes, he is.
So that's the kind of news deconstruction, if
he's ever going to do it, that you're
going to get.
It's Rachel Maddow material.
I believe that the people who listen to
our show do not ever, ever even stop
on a video of Keith Olbermann.
But it was sent to you, so I
understand.
We got to use the material.
You're in agreement with me.
I think some people.
Well, I haven't.
You're probably right because I don't stop at
his videos.
This guy sent the thing, one of our
producers sent the thing and saying, hey, look
at he's trying to do deconstruction like you
guys.
OK.
I had his clip and then I said,
well, let's see what this is all about.
It was my fault.
We never should have done the Trump stuff.
That was my fault.
You wanted to pass it by and I
was interested.
It's OK.
He did, however, bring up the, what do
you call them?
The two idiot sons.
Yeah, the two idiot sons.
And this, I'm answering a question that someone
sent to me.
There's a lot of confusion about the digital
euro, CBDC, Central Bank Digital Currency and stablecoin.
And even though we've explained it ad nauseum
and I'm not about to do it again,
please go to bingit.io and look it
up.
A central bank digital currency is issued.
That is the digital euro, if it ever
happens.
And I have reasons for saying that.
If the digital currency ever happens, a central
bank digital currency is regulated by the central
bank, the bank of banks.
In that case, it would be the Federal
Reserve in the United States.
In fact, there is specific legislation that forbids
the Central Bank of America, the Federal Reserve,
from creating a digital coin.
The stablecoin is interesting in that it is
money that is backed by American debt, by
treasury bills.
And the whole legislation that's going through Congress
now we've already determined who can do it.
So you can be a bank.
You can qualify as a bank.
I'm sure Elon Musk qualifies as a bank.
The only argument now is, well, can we
give people benefits like interest rate, interest on
a stablecoin or tote bags or whatever.
So the Trump brothers do a conference for
the World Liberty, I think that's what it's
called.
Excuse me, World Liberty Financial Corporation.
And they say, I think it's Eric who
says some stuff which confirms what we've been
talking about, about the stablecoin gambit.
But first they kind of downplay Bitcoin a
little bit and push it off to the
side because stablecoin is what it's all about.
I still think it's going to a million
bucks.
It's having trouble holding 100,000.
It's been a rough start.
This was supposed to be the golden dawn
of crypto.
Well, Bitcoin is low right now, but what
we're talking here with World Liberty is stablecoins,
right?
So that's treasury backed, it's dollar-based.
How have stablecoins held up in the Bitcoin
sell-off?
They're one-to-one to U.S. Treasury.
So they've stayed the same.
It's just a simpler way to transact.
If you send a wire on Friday, you
don't have to wait for Tuesday to close.
It happens in two seconds for two cents.
You can close transactions.
The banks obviously didn't love that idea because
they're getting the benefit of the float of
having these things and these billions and billions
of dollars sitting in their banks over the
weekend collecting interest.
This creates efficiencies that did not exist in
that market before.
Not only does it create efficiencies, it's bringing
trillions of dollars into the United States, right?
Everybody wants to be on the U.S.
dollar.
They did a Euro-based stablecoin and only
half of 1% of all Europeans want
to be on that stablecoin.
You know what they want to be on?
They want it to be on the U
.S. dollar.
Guess what everybody in Asia wants to be
on?
The U.S. dollar.
Guess what everybody in South America wants to
be on and really is on?
The U.S. dollar.
Stablecoin is going to bring literally trillions of
dollars into the U.S. economy.
It arguably could save the dollar because guess
what?
There's a lot of countries around the world
ranked in corruption, bad governments, bad currencies, massive
inflation.
These people don't stand a chance.
They get a paycheck.
They don't stand a chance.
They may as well go and throw in
a fire and just burn it.
Whereas now all of a sudden using a
simple telephone, using your iPhone, all of a
sudden you can buy U.S.-backed, one-to
-one as Don said, based on U.S.
Treasuries, you can buy stablecoin and you can
actually be part of the greatest financial system
in the world.
So this will change the entire optics of
the U.S. dollar.
It is a way to at least extend
world dominance as a reserve currency for a
while.
And as Eric said, guess what?
Guess what?
Guess what?
Yes.
Guess what?
Guess what?
All those countries do indeed.
People would rather have the U.S. dollar.
Yes, absolutely.
If you think that this is any different
because it's digital from your Venmo, your PayPal,
your credit card, your debit card, or any
other way you transact except in paper money,
you're wrong.
There's no difference.
Just as trackable, just as stoppable, just as
interruptible.
I hope people now understand.
They don't.
Because they're all worried about, oh, CBDC.
The CBDC is bad because the central bank
can then, they can devalue your money.
Well, they could take it.
Well, so...
Hello?
Well, that can happen.
That can happen with anything.
It happened in Cyprus.
I'm just saying that that's...
It can't happen with the thousand bucks that
I have stashed in the mattress.
No, but that's...
You're mixing apples with oranges and throwing in
some bananas.
The point is, digital money is digital money
and you're controlled unless you literally are using
Bitcoin and people are accepting your Bitcoin as
payment.
Oh, this is...
No, no, no, no, no, no.
I'm not saying it for that.
The point is, the difference between a stable
coin and a central bank digital currency is
the central bank has way more power to
devalue your money, to chop off money, to
do things that are outside of the banking
system.
And that's what you don't want.
And the digital euro will be fantastic.
I can't wait.
Unfortunately, as it turns out, let me look
for it as it turns out, Fifi Lagarde
may not see the actual introduction of the
digital euro.
On to business now.
Jean-Pierre Pellegrain is with us.
He's starting with a shock report.
This is coming out from the Financial Times.
It's regarding movements at the European Central Bank.
The British newspaper is saying that the president
of the ECB, Christine Lagarde, is expected to
leave her position before the end of her
eight-year term in October 2027, citing a
source familiar with her thinking.
Lagarde is reportedly looking to leave before the
French presidential election, which will take place in
April next year.
This would allow French President Emmanuel Macron and
German Chancellor Friedrich Merz to find a new
top central banker for the bloc and thus
avoiding the possibility of a far-right national
rally president from having a say in the
decision, whether that person is Marine Le Pen
or Jordan Bardella.
Both of them are euro-skeptics, of course.
The European Central Bank has since responded to
that report saying Christine Lagarde is focused on
her job and has not taken any decision
regarding the end of her term.
This is a bad omen.
Why would Lagarde want to leave before the
end of her term?
She's a healthy woman.
She's got everything together.
She loves power.
I think she knows it's all gonna come
tumbling down.
This has nothing to do with getting out
before— Oh, you think that— And she's worried
about getting blamed.
Of course.
Of course that she'll be the number one
to get blamed.
Nah, it's like, wow.
I think it's bigger news than people may
realize that she's getting out.
I don't want to be here when it
all collapses.
Let some other doofus take care of it.
Well, the potential's there.
Talk about the tariff decision from the Supreme
Court for a moment.
I have two clips that I want to
play.
You've got two clips.
I'm sure you do.
Mine first.
Wait, where do your— Where is your— Where—
I don't get it.
Where do yours come from?
From this morning, from CBS, Face the Nation.
CBS, okay.
Face the Nation.
Ambassador Jameson Greer, who is the United States
Trade Representative.
The Supreme Court ruling, that vote was 6
-0.
The president, as you know, you were there,
came out publicly.
And he railed against some of those justices
by name.
Railed!
He said this on Friday.
Take a listen.
They're very unpatriotic and disloyal to our Constitution.
It's my opinion that the court has been
swayed by foreign interests and a political movement
that is far smaller than people would ever
think.
That's a pretty huge allegation.
What foreign interest has corrupted the court, according
to the president?
Well, I won't characterize his words too much.
He speaks for himself.
What I will say— Do you know what
he's talking about?
So many of the interests that were at
issue in this case were really about foreign
importers or foreign companies that have interests here
in the U.S. who are suing the
president and suing the administration.
It's foreign companies that are benefiting from the
tariffs being struck down.
This is why, when we impose tariffs, foreign
countries don't like it.
And foreign companies don't like it because they're
the ones that don't want to have the
tariffs in place.
They're the ones that are suing.
They're the ones that are trying to get
together coalitions and groups to oppose what the
president is doing.
The president's fighting for American workers.
He's trying to impose a trade policy that
has a through line through the first Trump
administration, Biden and Trump, with tariffs.
But it's foreign countries and companies that are
suing that want these things to go away.
So the trade representative or ambassador here is
not really saying what this is.
I believe what President Trump is talking about
is globalists and specifically North Sea Nexus in
the embodiment of the Cato Institute, who wrote
quite a detailed amicus brief to the Supreme
Court about this decision.
And I spent some time with Rob, the
constitutional lawyer.
It's 170 pages.
A lot of this was pretty much written
by the Cato Institute.
It's all their language.
It's the globalists.
They don't want this.
They don't want America to succeed on its
own.
They want the same manufacturers somewhere else.
Just have the stupid Americans be the customers.
And here, Jameson kind of lets in a
little bit on who the president was really
talking about.
But the president wasn't talking about them.
The president was talking about the Supreme Court
justices.
Who he said are unpatriotic and disloyal and
swayed by foreign interests.
Do you have any evidence to back up
that allegation about the Supreme Court justices who,
as you know, face security threats on a
daily basis?
So when the foreign interests sue, they appear
before the courts.
They're literally arguing before the courts that they
should have a different outcome.
So it's quite obvious that foreign interests are
involved.
They're helping bring lawsuits.
They're arguing before the court.
And these justices, six of them, agree with
what a lot of these foreign interests want,
which is take down the tariffs, take down
the barriers, and let us import as much
cheap crap as we want to the United
States at the expense of American workers.
But do you need to clarify or feel
compelled in any way to clarify in regard
to the allegations against the justices themselves?
I'm not speaking for the president.
What I'm telling you is that when the
president talks about foreign influences, at a minimum,
what we see is that foreign companies are
involved in the coalitions, the PR effort, they're
involved in the cases, and they don't want
these tariffs.
It's not a secret.
I mean, for months, these foreign countries and
companies and people in the United States who
benefit from their commercial relations with them, they
want these tariffs to be gone.
That should be the signal for us that
we're doing the right thing, that we're over
the target.
When the foreign countries and companies are literally
arguing in court, but through their advocates to
take it down, we know they have influence.
Well, 1,500 businesses, including Costco, have filed
lawsuits to get repaid for these tariffs.
Yeah, they can wait for a long time
for that to happen.
Yeah, that's for sure.
That's not gonna happen.
That's not gonna happen.
So I think that's what the president meant.
I mean, the Cato Institute was, I think
that's named after the Cato letters, if I'm
not mistaken, between 18th century British essays, between
John Trenchard and Thomas Gordon.
Oh, I know, it is a kind of
an outlier of conservative think tanks.
Conservative or liberal globalists?
They're conservative on the surface.
On the surface, yeah, that makes sense.
On the surface, they're extremely conservative, but it
wouldn't surprise me, and I think that was
a good point.
It's a good catch that you talked this
over with R, with the show's constitutional guy.
Yeah, I mean, I can tell you more
about what we discussed, but let's see what
your clips are first.
Well, my clips are a little different because
they don't harp the way Nora, that's not
Nora, who is that?
That's Margaret.
Margaret, that's right, Margaret.
Let's, and the problem is I have two
clips that should be the same, might be
the same clip, but one is 41 seconds,
one is 59.
These are the openers.
It's the second clip, tariffs two, that's interesting
to me because it shows you what NPR
is coming from.
One is 44, one is 59.
Really, I got 41 on my list.
Oh, wait, hold on.
I have, wait, I have tariffs, Supreme Court,
44, Supreme Court NPR, 59, tariffs.
I wonder why it grew three seconds.
Tariffs to GOTG NPR.
Yeah, that should be boots on the ground.
It's goots on the, goats on the ground,
everybody.
We got goats on the ground.
Well, let's start with the long, let's just
try the long one, the 59 second one.
The 59 second one.
President Trump says he's increasing his new temporary
global tariffs from 10%.
He announced yesterday to 15%.
This in response to yesterday's Supreme Court ruling
that found he overstepped his authority on double
dish taxes on virtually all imports into the
US.
NPR's Alina Seljuk has more.
President Trump made the latest announcement in a
post on social media, once again deriding the
Supreme Court ruling, saying it was, quote, ridiculous,
poorly written and extraordinarily anti-American.
The high court had ruled with a notable
majority of six to three, including two justices
appointed by Trump.
And they had struck down Trump's use of
an emergency statute for his tariffs, saying the
president could not rely on it to impose
taxes without specific authorization from Congress.
Trump quickly used another presidential authority to set
a new universal tariff, which is limited to
150 days, unless extended by lawmakers.
And he has vowed to find a way
to set more.
Alina Seljuk, NPR News, Washington.
Yeah, the 150 day limit on section 122
is interesting, because yes, the president can't just
reset the clock, but there is no language
that says that he can't do another one.
Yeah, that's what I was thinking when I
heard that.
14% now.
It's all about if there's a trade or
an imbalance of payments, which clearly we have.
Oh yeah, big time.
Then he can just keep invoking that, just
changing it a little bit.
He can also completely block all trade with
any country or for any product, just outright.
So this whole thing was, I'd say, I
think the words Rob, the constitutional lawyer, use
are performative.
And that's what's disappointing.
The Supreme Court's just, you know, whatever they
were doing.
It's like, eh, you can't use eh.
They didn't want to deal with it, I
think.
They should have not dealt with it then.
The fact that they just stole the report
from the Cato Institute is pretty pathetic.
It's very pathetic.
So this report, they go on and on
and on.
Then they bring in this woman who I
have to say, here's a woman that works
for NPR that is living the life of
Riley.
I don't know what the NPR budget must
be in the hundreds of millions, obviously.
And this woman, she's in the Paris Bureau
and she's going to do boots on the
ground.
But you never imagine, you know, in other
words, ask the Europeans what they think of
all this.
And you can't imagine where she decides to
go.
Wait a minute.
Physically or in her- Physically.
Hold on a second.
So she's doing, well, I would say she
had to go to China.
No, no, she's in the Paris.
If you're in the Paris Bureau and you
want to travel around, you, yes, well, actually,
yes, you should go to China.
Or you go to the Champaign region.
Well, you're close.
EU and the U.S. did more than
one and a half trillion dollars in trading
goods and services in 2024.
They're each other's largest trading partners.
So there's a lot at stake.
Last summer, before the tariffs were put into
effect, the 15%, I went into Burgundy and
I spoke with wine growers and they were
so nervous about what would happen.
And one of the vineyards I visited was
Michael Shopsville.
What is in Burgundy besides dynamite wine?
What's in Burgundy?
Dynamite wine.
She went to Burgundy to talk about tariffs
and do a lot of wine tasting because
some of that wine you can taste if
you go there, but you can't afford to
affect the 15%.
I went into Burgundy and I spoke with
wine growers and they were so nervous about
what would happen.
And one of the vineyards I visited was
Michael Shops vineyard.
He has, he's a French winemaker and a
Virginia winemaker who exports and imports in both
directions.
So he really sees how it's affecting the
whole thing.
And I spoke with him today.
It's been crazy.
The up and downs on both sides of
the Atlantic.
On top of that, the fact that the
dollar has tumbled about 12% in the
past year.
So you have that on top of the
tariffs and it's a big hit.
Yeah, so he hailed the Supreme Court's decision,
but it didn't last long.
And he said most French winemakers, including himself,
are finding and have found new markets across
Europe and Asia.
He says it's just too hard to do
business with the US.
Does the EU have any recourse to fight
back?
Yeah, they do.
I mean, the US and the EU negotiated
a trade deal last summer, but it's actually
not been ratified by the European Parliament.
And they could hold that back.
And there are now calls for them to
do so.
And they've already identified $93 billion worth of
US goods that they could slap tariffs on.
And there's something else they could use.
It's a mechanism that's being referred to as
the trade bazooka, which could enact huge restrictions
on US companies having access to the EU
market, which is a market of 450 million
consumers.
It's massive and lucrative.
So that could be a real threat.
That's NPR's Paris correspondent, Eleanor Beardsley.
Thank you so much for your reporting.
You're welcome.
And I'll tell you that my buddy here
who does CNC machining for military parts, they
are so happy because now they're using American
steel.
He says it's more expensive.
I think we talked about this before, but
he doesn't have to throw 40% away.
Of Chinese steel because it's junk.
It's junk.
And he says, orders are up.
He says, we can barely keep up with
the business.
Yeah, it's junk.
The LED light bulbs from China are junk.
Everything from China is pretty much junk.
And I understand we have a lot of
people probably who listened to the show who
set up businesses reselling junk from China in
marketing, online.
I understand it sucks that you have to
eat these tariffs.
But, you know, and they say, well, you
can't get that in America.
Well, there's your opportunity right there.
Make it better.
I love the guys in North Carolina who
are making sneakers and supposedly no agenda boots.
Now, this is the whole plan.
If you care about your kids, you'll eat
a little bit of pain or a lot
of pain.
You will do it.
I'm going to give the president until 2027.
And if it hasn't improved by then, well,
then a great idea didn't work.
I like the idea.
I really do.
Yeah, we'll see how it goes.
But I mean, I like the idea, too.
I'm not going to argue.
Are you skeptical that he can pull it
off?
No, I'm skeptical that the economy is not
going to have issues after the midterms.
And it will result in the inability to
pull it off because it just won't be.
It's just the conditions won't be right.
Everybody will be broke.
Well, not that never happens.
But if that ever happened, you'd be people
who listen to our show.
It didn't happen in the 30s.
It didn't happen in the 70s.
This never happened.
People who listen to our show will be
broke and they will claim brokenness.
That is always happening.
It does.
It does happen.
If you're ready to go to a break,
I do have one interesting clip.
Oh, finally.
Finally, we're getting an interesting.
Finally, an interesting clip.
I know, I know, I know.
So this is the most disgusting thing that's
been floating around for a while.
This is the underwear hack.
It was kind of noisy.
I ran through the system.
This is some woman giving us a life
hack, a life hack when you travel a
lot.
Okay, here we go.
I'm about to show you guys one of
the coolest tricks ever.
So you're traveling and you didn't pack enough
underwear and you're like, oh my gosh, what
am I going to wear tomorrow?
Every room has like a coffee pot thing
in it.
Every room.
Even the other coffee makers where like brews
serve.
All you have to do, put your underwear
where you would put the coffee grounds.
You close it.
You press brew and it puts scorching hot
water through it.
You guys, then the hairdryer in the bathroom,
you blow dry those bad boys and you
got yourself a cleaner pair of underwear to
wear.
I did not realize how many people already
knew this hack.
I learned it years ago from a friend
that was a flight attendant and it's brilliant.
So this is a hack.
This is good.
This is no good.
So you take your underwear and you stick
it in the coffee maker.
Yes.
Your dirty underwear and then you run a
brew through it and then you just dump
the water out and then you go dry
off the underwear.
So in other words, the likelihood, if the
people, unless this is a hoax, which I
believe it could be.
Well, no, no, no, no.
Because I just spent four days in the
biodome in Nashville.
It's the Gaylord Hotel where you never get
out.
It's kind of like a casino and they
have these exact brew machines and it exists
of a little pouch that's in a plastic
slide that you slide into the coffee maker.
Yeah, that works if you have panties.
But men's underwear.
Well, I don't think it's for men, but
even I don't care who puts them in.
Panties or boxer shorts.
I don't care.
I don't want to be drinking my coffee,
making brews of coffee afterwards.
You know, the hack is you get clean
underwear and a tasty drink.
And with that, I want to thank you
for your courage to say in the morning
to you, the man who put the C
in the CBDC.
In the morning to you, Mr. John C.
DeMora.
Oh, that's looking better.
Almost 2,100.
2,100 trolls listening live at noagendastream.com.
And of course, many of them trolling along
in the troller.
And you know what?
The trolls know everything so much better.
That is my favorite part of the trolls.
They think that they're actually talking on the
show.
But you're not.
They are on the show of their own.
Yeah, I know.
But I look over, you know, I always
got to look over from time.
I have a peripheral vision.
I was like, oh, oh, oh, oh.
I'm really trying to give them grace.
It's hard sometimes.
Why?
Let's just say horrible things.
They're trolls.
Yeah, that's why.
They're trolls.
Exactly.
To give them grace.
They might want grief.
I think you're right.
I got them finally.
I got them to kick me off again.
No, I've got.
Oh, look, he talked about my post.
Yes, that is right.
That is exactly it.
We are a value for value podcast.
Now, first, I should mention that you can
definitely get this on the modern podcast apps.
That's what you want to do.
Because when we go live, you'll get a
notification that we're going live.
You can listen to that live show in
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Many more features.
Don't even think about these legacy apps.
Apple, Spotify, even Overcast.
You know, it doesn't have any of the
cool features.
It's in the modern podcast apps at podcastapps
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Value for value.
Although we are considering giving you a yonder
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Other than that, there's nothing you got to
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We put it all out there for you
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You can do this with time, talent, and
treasure.
The time and talent of people who do
so many things.
See, they sent you clips of Keith Olbermann.
Mike Olbermann.
I was going to say Mike Olbermann.
You know, it's just like, all right, that's
kind of valuable.
Thank you.
The people organize meetups.
You've got Void Zero trying to help us
with the newsletter issues.
Yeah.
And he's really- I've had to talk
to him on the phone.
And he's really working hard because he can't
even get you on the email anymore.
But that is time and talent right there.
Or you could be making artwork for us.
Interestingly enough, on the previous show, which was
our best of second half of show, got
a lot of positive results.
People thought it was very interesting that immediately
Obama was giving out classified information.
President Trump says he's going to release all
of the UFO files.
They thought that just could not be a
coincidence that we did our second half of
show.
But we did.
And you did not, as you typically do,
send me artwork.
Usually you send me artwork and say, here's
artwork for the show.
I didn't see anything.
So I figured you'd either ask Darren for
some or you just get some.
I just went to Gemini and said, make
me a second half of show artwork.
And that's what we got.
Yeah.
I know.
I was as underwhelmed as you are.
But that's what it is.
And no one sent anything.
Well, I guess we...
I guess no, they did, but you didn't
get it.
Well, I looked.
I didn't see anything that was any good.
Because there's some there.
I saw it.
Well, I didn't.
I saw the end of the road when
I was posting the show.
When I was...
Yeah, no, it probably wasn't there by the
time.
Yeah.
The timing was a miss.
Timing was wrong.
Yeah.
I mean, we do have to...
And I did it Wednesday night.
I had it all ready and good to
go.
I still could have done it Thursday morning.
I looked, I didn't see anything.
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So I want to say happy birthday.
She wasn't on the birthday list?
No, no, it came through a signal message.
So I just want to say, I just
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And we miss you.
We miss you.
From time to time, she comes in with
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Then we start today with Benjamin Domzalski from
Cleveland, Ohio.
He sent us 343.75. And let me
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He says, Benjamin Domzalski from Cleveland, requesting prayers
for my son, Adam.
Oh, he's named Adam.
Name previous to becoming a producer.
Sorry, Adam.
Oh, okay.
He is converting to Catholicism and tomorrow, that
is today, 2226, is his rite of sending.
Are you familiar with this?
The rite of sending?
I'm not sure what it is.
No.
Okay.
It's about two steps away from full conversion.
We will be at with the entirety of
the Cleveland Catholic Diocese.
He is nervous, so all prayers are welcome.
No karma, just love.
Glad to be a producer.
I think I am now a knight.
As an accountant, I should- Converting from,
I wonder.
From atheism, agnosticism, from nothingism.
You don't convert from atheism.
Well, I don't know.
It's a good question.
I do not have the information.
Yes, I already did when I read the
spreadsheet.
I think I am now a knight.
Well, as an accountant, I should keep better
track.
I will follow up.
Jingles, Sharpton, anything.
And thank the Lord for my smoking hot
wife.
Resist.
We must.
We must.
They're all jitty about a shutdown.
The tortice in the race.
Then co-author of Hubris.
You two lead singer Bono.
So I've been watching Sharpton on and off
for the last six months.
Wow.
And I can't catch his flubs.
I think they must just reshoot stuff constantly.
Oh no, they must be pre-taping.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Okay, we got Evan here.
Evan from Rhode Island.
ITM Adam and John.
With this donation, I can officially cleanse myself
of douche baggery.
You've been de-douche.
Very good.
With that out of the way, I've been
listening to you guys since the start of
COVID, give or take about six years.
All right.
Six years before COVID.
You two have brought humor as well as
insights to the otherwise chaotic day-to-day
that the media would have us live in.
Thank you both for the levity twice a
week.
The only jingle I request is the Scott
Simon suffering succotash.
It makes me laugh every time I hear
it.
Suffering succotash.
I'm Scott Simon.
I'm sorry.
He was in for 333.33. Yeah, same
amount.
333.33 from Noah Vattenmacher.
These are, of course, donations from two episodes.
1844 and for 1845 today.
He's from Three Rivers, California.
And he says, birthday don't know for me.
Don't know.
February 18th, he turns 40.
Hooray!
And hooray for you, Noah.
Don't know.
Don't know.
Jeffrey Anton in Melbourne, Florida.
333.00 with no notes.
So he gets a double up karma.
Yes, he does.
You've got karma.
Sir, oh no.
Yes, Sir Commodore Mark Bendikowski, Warsaw, Poland.
321.
I will donate until John will get my
surname right.
Love you guys.
Night name change, please, to Sir Rick of
the Cyber Abyss.
Well, you've just changed it.
Many years ago, you had me knighted as
Sir.
No, no, you, you.
Oh, I'm sorry.
There's two greens there.
I was reading.
The green was bleeding over to the green.
I'm sorry.
I'm sorry.
Now that you mention it, I've had issues
with these colors too.
Yeah, okay.
That was my mistake.
And you have color blindness, which I'm sure
doesn't help.
Let me just finish this.
Let me do it again.
Sir Commodore Mark.
So I'll edit this.
No one will ever know the difference.
Right.
Wait, wait.
321.
Sir Commodore Mark Bendikowski, Warsaw, Poland.
321.
He says he will donate until John gets
my surname right.
Love you guys.
Oh, let me give it a shot.
Yes.
Bendikowski.
Oh, I'm sorry.
Oh, did I get it right?
I'm sorry.
No, I'm sorry.
You did not get it right.
Sir Rick of the Cyber Abyss in Modesto,
California.
Or Abyss, as they might say nowadays.
300.
Knight name change, please, to Sir Rick of
the Cyber Abyss.
This kind of says, okay, I get it.
Many years ago, you had me knighted as
Sir Finditclassifieds.com.
Finditclassifieds.com or something like that, as that
was where I was mining dollars from the
web at the time.
Now, I'm at Podgrapper.com and Sitespy007.com.
Ooh.
Okay, so plugging everything you can under the
sun.
That's worth 300 bucks.
Andrew Ribby.
I'm just going to guess it's Andrew Ribby.
Wait, we're already the associates for two shows?
Yep, I told you.
I told you.
Oklahoma City, Oklahoma, 235.16. And he has
a note that he sent in.
Let's see.
John and Adam Remittance, V4V, $200, okay.
Tina, glass of wine to aid putting up
with Adam, $15.
Oh, well, that is nice.
Mimi, glass of wine to aid putting up
with John, $15.
He's giving us the full accounting.
This is dynamite.
Phoebe Treat, $5.
Hey, if you don't mind, I'm not going
to give my dog some $5 treat.
I think that's probably a bit much.
He has not priced dog treats for a
while.
No, it's a lot of money for a
dog treat.
$400 for reasonably good dog food.
Yes.
Check fee, $0.15. Adam's Jar, $0.01.
Where's my...
You know, ever since I went to Linux,
I think I lost my coin jar.
I got to find that.
Total, 235.16. Thank you for the joy
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Okay.
P.S. I picked up side work so
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Regards, Andrew Ribby.
Oh, and he wants a mac and cheese
jingle.
All right.
Mac and cheese.
We got some mac and cheese for you.
Yes, this one.
You slaves can get used to mac and
cheese.
Mac and cheese.
Macaroni and cheese.
Cheddar melted together.
Hey, everybody.
And they are both on the birthday list.
And can we confirm that you're using Linux
once again?
Oh, yeah.
The people's operating system.
The people's operating system is in full effect.
And you're going to take the people's operating
system on the road?
Yes.
I will have a backup of the Redmond,
Washington operating system just in case.
But yes, I believe that I am almost
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And of course, now I am back on
Graphene OS, also the people's mobile operating system.
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But what has been a lousy operating system?
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A lot of it.
Yes.
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And let's talk about Iran for a second.
Yeah, I have one short clip.
They could be a good introduction because it's
only.
All right.
Shorty on Iran.
Sure.
Does it say shorty on Iran?
Yeah, it does say that.
President Trump says he hasn't decided on whether
the U.S. will launch military strikes on
Iran.
But while he weighs his options, the military
buildup in the Mideast over the past few
months means the U.S. has an expansive
naval and air presence in the area.
And here's Greg Myrie says Trump has a
range of options now that U.S. forces
reached a critical mass in the region.
But Trump so far hasn't outlined his plans
on a possible attack.
This has been a very different approach than
we've seen from other presidents in the run
up to wars.
Trump, for example, hasn't made a major speech
to the American people about the prospect for
a new Middle East war.
Though his State of the Union address is
on Tuesday, his administration hasn't sought support from
Congress or made the case at the United
Nations.
And aside from Israel, the president hasn't sought
to bring in U.S. allies or build
an international coalition.
And here's Greg Myrie reporting.
Well, having been on the road, I have
the advantage of having picked up a few
clips before today's program, even before the weekend.
Clip collector Steve sent me this one on
Thursday.
This is the outstanding work from the Barry
Weiss newsroom at CBS.
We turn now to the Middle East and
the breaking news tonight.
A potential military strike on Iran could happen
as soon as Saturday, according to top national
security officials.
President Trump has already positioned U.S. warships
and fighter jets in the region as nuclear
talks continue with Iran.
Senior White House correspondent Ed O'Keefe has
the latest.
Ed, good evening.
What are you hearing?
Tony sources tell CBS News the president hasn't
yet made a final decision on whether to
strike.
Conversations about potential military action are described as
fluid and ongoing.
As the White House weighs the political and
military risks of escalation, the president has said
he would consider strikes if Iran doesn't agree
to curb its nuclear weapons program.
The Pentagon is moving some personnel temporarily out
of the Middle East region over the next
three days.
They're headed primarily to Europe or back here
to the U.S. ahead of any potential
action or counterattacks by Iran.
So, you know, if you look on social
media, you've got the obligatory, oh, the troops
are getting steak and lobster dinner.
That means it's coming on.
It's going to happen.
It's all over.
But it's going to happen.
I reached out to Sir Brian of London.
Wait, wait.
So if they get steak and lobster, they
go to war?
Oh, you've never heard this?
No, I've never heard this.
Oh, this meme keeps popping up.
I'm sure we've talked about it.
I'm sure.
Maybe.
Lobster.
Let me see.
Yeah, here's a this was a this is
from I don't know what it's from.
This is a while back.
So there's videos going viral of the U
.S. military being served steak and lobster all
over social media.
If you're familiar with the military, you know
about the steak and lobster.
Are we about to be in the middle
of a conflict?
I would like any military personnel.
I've never asked this question.
To immediately text me, signal me, email me
if this is true.
I believe it's bullcrap.
But, you know, whenever there's an imminent attack
or something's happening.
First of all, you're dealing with shellfish.
You can make people sick.
You don't want to even take a chance
on this.
I think that is an excellent point.
One of my rules about flying.
Don't eat the shrimp.
No, no.
And certainly no sushi.
Oh, God, what airplane?
That's for sure.
Do not eat sushi on an airplane or
a gas station or at the airport like
SFO.
SFO has a sushi joint.
There are lots of sushi joints at airports.
Actually, there's a sushi joint at Heathrow that
is a killer.
There's a there's a oyster and caviar bar
at JFK.
That's what you want.
I mean, I'll make you sick, too.
But at least you got caviar.
PBS NewsHour had some relatively good info or
details.
Just they had information on the negotiations.
Let me put it that way.
U.S. and Iranian officials met yesterday to
continue negotiations over that country's nuclear program.
What have we learned about how that negotiation
went?
An Iranian official and a regional official both
confirmed to me tonight that Iran has made
this offer a pause in domestic enrichment of
uranium to produce nuclear fuel through the end
of the first Trump administration, entering into some
kind of regional consortium for enrichment in the
future, and three, exporting or diluting the highly
enriched uranium.
That's one step away from weapons grade that
the U.S. bombed last summer.
In exchange, Iran would ask for sanctions relief
and open up to U.S. investment.
Officials tell me the U.S. has made
a counter offer and continues to insist that
Iran permanently give up any ability to enrich
uranium domestically.
And today we heard from White House spokesperson
Caroline Leavitt hinting at that ongoing impasse.
There was a little bit of progress.
What?
I'm sorry?
I was just going to say that we
kind of we encourage investment.
But when Trump gets out, we're changing everything
back.
Did they expect to get investment with that
strategy?
Well, I don't think this is about nuclear
at all.
That's a cover.
Let's listen to the lady.
There was a little bit of progress made,
but we're still very far apart on some
issues.
I believe the Iranians are expected to come
back to us with some more detail in
the next couple of weeks.
And so the president will continue to watch
how this plays out.
So the way I see it, we're positioned
there in the Straits of Hormuz.
Iran has already done a live fire exercise.
So the whole point is no Chinese go
ships with your oil.
We're going to catch him.
We're right here.
We're the only place you can get him
out.
No more Chinese.
No more oil going to China.
Instead, as I understand the deal, let our
companies come in and do business with you.
And I think that they are interested in
that.
I really do.
Well, there's more money in it for him
because the Chinese buy always best price.
So he's going for the low ball.
These poor guys said that Venezuelans were getting
screwed in the Chinese deal.
So whenever I see all these numbers of
60 percent enrichment, 40 percent enrichment, that's your
negotiating tactic.
That's what it is.
Here's the deal is still lopsided.
Here's PBS.
The U.S. has deployed what the president
calls an armada to the region, including the
U.S.'s largest aircraft carrier and strike group,
dozens of additional fighter jets.
Former officials, analysts telling me the U.S.
is capable of delivering a strong blow against
Iran, but will find it difficult to defend
itself and allies from a big Iranian response.
What are those former officials and analysts tell
you about the chance of a deal?
Exactly what Secretary of State Marco Rubio has
said in the last couple of days.
It is very difficult because the U.S.
demands are larger than what Iran is willing
to concede.
Iran will simply not give up that right
for domestic enrichment, says former State Department official
and current distinguished diplomatic fellow at the Middle
East Institute, Alan Ayer.
What they see is any any capitulation in
the face of pressure will invite further aggression.
What they're doing now is they're getting ready
to take a hit.
You know, satellite imagery is showing this.
Open press reporting is showing this.
I'm sure intelligence is reporting this.
While they're continuing negotiations with the U.S.,
they fully expect these negotiations not to result
in a deal.
And they're preparing themselves for a massive U
.S. military attack.
Here's what I think.
This is I think that the U.S.
State Department and Trump and the Iranians have
already agreed.
It's much better for you to sell the
oil to us.
Let us come in there.
Let our American companies in.
And this whole thing is a face-saving
exercise towards the Chinese so they can say,
hey, I'm sorry, Xi, like, you know, they
were going to blow us up.
So we had to do this.
It could also be a fake blow up.
You know, they could drop some bombs in
the desert.
Well, yes.
And because we're sticking with the two of
us.
Yes.
Both subscribe to the idea, which is a
Middle Eastern idea amongst Middle Eastern observers.
Iranians from actual living and breathing Iranians.
We've been in cahoots with the Iranians forever.
The entire era of our show.
So when Margaret Brennan has the Iranian foreign
minister on.
And again, it's about all of a sudden
we're back to enrich.
There was like we blowed this stuff up.
I'm going to use their term, your term,
the blow.
We blowed the stuff up.
And now it's like, well, you can't enrich
any more.
60 percent, 50 percent, 30 percent, blah, blah,
blah.
This is a cover.
There was no there.
Where were the reports of Iran can have
a nuke in one week, one month.
That stopped.
That went away.
So it hasn't come back.
So this is a cover yet.
OK, but when I heard the Iranian foreign
minister this morning, and I have a couple
of clips, he's playing his side of the
cover.
We have seen very public statements from the
president that he said no enrichment.
And that's a red line.
But when you say it's your right.
OK, but you could get enriched uranium and
buy it from someplace else.
You know this.
You've done this is demanding the right to
enrich on Iranian soil.
Really worth the risk right now.
You're facing the potential destruction of your country
and the regime based on the kind of
military buildup we're looking at.
Well, I think as a sovereign country, we
have every right to decide for ourselves, by
ourselves.
We have developed this technology by ourselves, by
our scientists.
And it's very dear to us because we
have paid a lot.
Yeah, we have paid a huge expense for
that.
We have been on the sanctions for for
at least 20 years.
And we have lost our scientists and we
have we have had a war because of
that.
So that is now a matter of dignity
and pride for Iranians.
And we are not going to give it
up.
There is no legal reason to do that.
While everything is peaceful, while everything is safeguarded
by the agency, why we had an agreement
in the past when we will remain fully
committed to that.
And, you know, it was the US who
just withdrew with no justification.
So we are a committed member of NPT.
We want to use our right.
We want to have our right and to
exercise that.
So I'll make a controversial statement here.
As usual, the United States puts Israel into
play to ratchet it up again, again, you
know, make it look all that it's all
kind of real.
So we all get on edge because, you
know, you know, Israel, you know, they dominate
you.
No, they don't.
But you understand this could be make it
or break it for you here.
I mean, look, your air defenses were largely
demolished by Israel this past summer.
They dominate your military.
They killed the leader of your most powerful
proxy in Hezbollah.
The United States bombed your underground nuclear facility.
The economy is in shambles right now.
So why do you think the regime could
even survive unless you give this up?
Well, that is not the case.
When you talked about the air defense and
the war we had with Israel, you know,
yes, we had a problem with our air
defense.
But Israelis had also a problem with their
air defense.
And our missiles were able to hit the
targets inside Israel.
So, you know, they started the war.
But after 12 days, they asked for a
ceasefire, unconditional ceasefire.
Why?
Because they couldn't defend themselves against our missiles.
So we have a very good capability of
missiles.
And now we are even in a better
situation than previous war.
So as a matter of fact, we are
in a powerful position to defend ourselves.
We know how to defend ourselves.
We did it in the 12-day war.
And we are fully prepared to repeat that
if necessary.
Well, respectfully, Israel has air superiority over Iran.
But let's talk about what you are saying
in terms of war.
Our missiles have also superiority over the space
of Israel.
They can hit their targets.
They hit their targets in a very exact
way.
And they can do it again.
And from what I understand that during the
12-day war, 90% of the Iranian
missiles were intercepted, which is a fun way
of saying 10% made it through.
And one of those 10% hit the
interceptor missiles that we have given Israel money
for to buy from us.
And they actually probably don't have the interceptors
if Iran went full bore, which I don't
expect.
But let's ratchet up the anxiety a little
bit more.
Okay, well, there are 40,000 American personnel
in the Middle East right now.
In Iran's letter to the UN Security Council,
you seem to threaten them because you said
America will bear full responsibility.
You said you don't want war.
But if that's what happens, all bases, facilities,
and assets of the hostile force in the
region will be legitimate targets.
Are you saying Iran will hit US bases
in the Gulf?
Or will you also bomb the Gulf countries
that are your neighbors?
Well, I'm not going to say what we
are going to do exactly.
No.
Obviously, we defend ourselves.
If the US attacks us, then we have
every right to defend ourselves.
If the US attacks us, that is an
act of aggression.
What we do in response is the act
of self-defense.
And it is justifiable and legitimate.
So our missiles cannot hit the American soil.
So obviously, we have to do something else.
We have to hit the Americans' base in
the region.
That is a fact.
I am a diplomat.
I'm not supposed to talk about our military
plans.
But what can I say is that why
we should go for war when there is
every possibility for a peaceful solution.
So here's how I see the deal structured.
Let's make a lot of noise.
You're right.
Maybe we lob a couple of bombs in
the desert.
They come to the table.
Oh, okay.
All right.
You can...
Because Trump wants to do business there.
He wants the total oil dominance with a
fair deal, quote unquote.
So our American companies go in.
We start pumping some of that stuff because
we know we're out of it here in
America.
Just no one wants to admit it except
for the oil baron.
And then, you know what?
Because China will have to go away.
You know what China's going to get?
A soft, no military takeover of Taiwan.
We have nothing in the region.
Everything's been moved out.
It won't be like we're taking over.
They'll just move in like, hey, we're here.
It's okay.
Everyone's fine.
Taiwan is governmentally in a mess right now.
I think it's a three-part deal.
I think Xi may be in on it
too.
How about that?
Well, that's pretty radical.
I don't know if the Taiwan thing is
going to go over.
But then again, maybe that's why AOC couldn't
answer the question at the Munich Security Conference
because she was briefed.
I actually have a clip of her.
On the exact plot that you're talking about.
And so she was tongue-tied.
That's why she was stumbling.
I have a 27-second clip.
By the way, that's a stretch.
That thesis I just said is a stretch.
But...
You took it way too far.
I'm over the...
I'm out of control.
You're over your skis.
I like where we ended.
There is one thing, though.
So I contact Sir Brian of London.
Because we're about to go with a church
group go visit Israel.
Next week.
And Sir Brian of London says...
I said, what's the vibe?
He's in Tel Aviv.
He said, the vibe is...
It's not when we will be hit by
missiles.
Not if, but when.
I'm like, okay.
He says, but you know, we're all out
here partying on the beach.
We're not worried about it.
It's life in Israel.
And so I'm thinking...
You know, we're about to go...
We're the youngest people probably in this group.
There's people in their 70s, upper 70s.
And I call Pastor Jimmy.
I said, bro, listen.
You know, we don't want...
Like we're in a hotel and an air
raid siren goes off at night.
That'd be great.
No, for me, yeah.
You know, that'd be fine.
I went to Iraq in 2003.
I'm not that worried about it.
And if something happens, I know where I'm
going.
But people get worried about this stuff.
They get all keyed up.
They won't be able to enjoy it.
So we've delayed until October, which I think
is a good decision.
Although...
What?
Yeah, yeah.
Oh, I was looking forward to broadcasting live.
From the war zone.
Yeah, seriously.
Me too.
Me too.
Well, you know, you got to understand.
Older people.
We have a couple guys on the security
team that have had a head on the
swivel the whole time.
You know, like, who's that guy?
What's he got?
I don't need this agita in my life.
I just want to go see where Jesus
walked.
I don't want to be worried about my
fellow travelers.
So yeah, you're stuck with me.
You just take a trip by yourself.
And you get Brian of London there.
And the place is great after you have
somebody show you around.
No, I'm still looking forward to going.
And Mossad said that the money bags will
be good.
They said they'll give it to me later.
So Jew money is still good.
Yeah, where is that Jew money?
I haven't seen it on the spreadsheet.
But I think that's in play.
I think that I really that feels like
what's going on because this whole nuclear thing
came out of nowhere.
Nowhere after we blew everything up.
And then, well, they're still enriching.
And as Margaret said, you can buy it.
So this has to be a face saving
maneuver.
And we'll know it was really that if
if if she kind of walks into Taiwan
and says, hey, you know, we're here to
straighten stuff out.
Well, I think that they're going to have
to if he's not going to walk into
Taiwan while Trump's in office, it's going to
have to be staged for after twenty twenty
eight.
Not on my watch.
I'm absolutely sure that's part of the deal.
OK, possibly because, you know, Trump doesn't like
that because he's made this big fuss about
it wouldn't have started the war in Ukraine
if it was if I wasn't president.
They wouldn't have done this if I was.
And then talking about I do have a
just a side clip here about Epstein.
So I've been watching and I have some
clips.
I'm not going to play him today.
I'll play him on this next show.
They're pretty interesting.
But this way, so I'm watching.
I'm I'm since I've had a day off.
I'm screwing around watching a lot of Rumble
live stuff.
And Keith Olbermann, apparently.
So I'm watching the Rumble stuff.
And there's this woman who I guess was
was been around for a long time.
I've heard of her, but I haven't heard
her name.
Wendy Bell of talk a talker, right wing
talker.
That's been she's now got a show in
Philadelphia and they play the show.
And I don't have the one I have
one clip I could have gotten another clip
where she because what she's doing, she plays
the radio show, her radio show live on
Rumble.
And then when they break for commercials, she's
doing like a second show.
Oh, the Rumble audience.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
That's not uncommon.
I've seen.
No, it's not uncommon at all.
And I don't know who I think Rush
Limbaugh pioneered or maybe Joe Joe Pags does
that.
Paglia, Joe Paglia, a lot of people do
it.
It's a it's a good idea.
But she does the sides that are way
off from the shows.
Radical enough.
But she when she does the asides are
interesting.
And one of them that she did, which
I'm not playing, I'm playing the second one,
the Epstein one.
She she goes off on Newsmax because she
used to be a talker there.
And so she was at Newsmax and they
and she she goes off on I'm saying
Newsmax wouldn't let me talk about the stolen
election in 2020.
If I even brought it up, I'd get
fired.
They wouldn't let me talk about covid.
They at all.
I couldn't even discuss any of it.
I just thought that was pretty telling about
Newsmax.
You know, it's supposed to be such a
right wing operation.
But here she is doing it aside.
They're at commercial break and she's talking with
the engineer slash producer like they like to
do.
And they're talking about Bongino and Cash Patel
going on on Fox.
And here's how this thing goes.
Right.
And so when he and Dan and Dan
Bongino came out in that Fox News interview,
wasn't it, Fox?
And they looked at the camera and you're
like, that's bullshit.
And you're like, that's total.
They both look like they'd seen a ghost,
particularly Bongino.
Both of their eyes don't lie.
You can tell because they were like, Jeffrey
Epstein didn't kill himself.
And we're like, it looked like a hostage
video, right?
I was like, that's kind of messed up.
I mean, anybody else not believe that, huh?
Lot of new eyes.
If you're new, follow, give us a follow.
Hey, and hit the rumble button.
We appreciate that.
Glad to be with you guys.
Thank you.
But right.
So what if it like we've already chewed
here on the very, I think, shared reality.
We all have.
The dude's not dead.
Jeffrey Epstein is not dead, please.
It's like the worst suicide ever.
The worst freaking suicide ever.
You mean like a suicide, like shooting yourself
in the back of the head?
That's right.
And stabbing yourself like 800 times.
Right back here.
So I'm at the dinner table with all
the kids.
And there's not one person at the table
that doesn't think the same thing.
Oh, so the millennials all think he's alive.
And of course, I think I kind of
think so, too, because of the passports that
he had.
They found one passport from a phony passport.
But he could have had 20, for all
we know.
Sure.
Well, Jeffrey Epstein didn't kill himself.
You know, of course.
But also, you know, in that interview, I
thought about this.
They they they said, no, no, Jeffrey Epstein
didn't kill himself.
That the question was never asked.
Are you is he dead?
So there's lots of discrepancies with tattoos on
his arm and the way his face looked
and the fact they had a picture of
him all on the gurney.
But what Tina, who who really is withdrawn
from news feeds, although she has had some
dynamite cottage cheese recipes, she says she is
she is convinced that Patel and Bongino were
told this is what you say or we're
going to kill your family.
She's convinced of it.
Well, they said, like Wendy said, they look
like a hostage video did.
Yeah, yeah, it did.
Anyway, a lot of noise about Stephen Colbert
not being allowed to air an interview with
this Tallarico guy, Texas Democrat.
And and the way it's played so far
has been, you know, this is FCC and
this is censorship from the top.
And this is global news from Canada who
had, I think, a little better report of
what exactly went down.
Guess who's running afoul of his network and
the Trump administration again?
It's me, Stephen Colbert.
Hang in there, buddy.
A day before, Colbert suggested he was barred
by his CBS bosses from airing an interview
with Texas Democratic Senate candidate James Tallarico after
Brendan Carr, chair of the Federal Communications Commission,
a Trump appointee, questioned the exemption whereby talk
shows are not required to offer equal time
to political rivals.
Colbert's take.
Donald Trump's administration wants to silence anyone who
says anything bad about Trump on TV because
all Trump does is watch TV.
So Colbert ran the interview on YouTube, where
Tallarico also took aim at the White House.
Now they're trying to control what we watch,
what we say, what we read.
And this is the most dangerous kind of
cancel culture, the kind that comes from the
top.
The next day, CBS issued a statement that
Colbert read, saying that he was not prohibited
from showing the interview, which could trigger the
FCC equal time rule.
The show was presented options to provide equal
time for others.
I am well aware that we can book
other guests.
The FCC chair recently explained the need to
update the rules for broadcasters.
Congress was clear that the FCC has a
role with respect to bona fide news.
They were worried that TV programmers would broadly
take advantage of trying to claim they were
bona fide news when they weren't.
But one FCC commissioner calls it corporate capitulation.
Ana Gomez stated the FCC has no lawful
authority to pressure broadcasters for political purposes or
create a climate that chills free expression.
That's been the worry for fans who protested
last summer after CBS and parent company Paramount
canceled Colbert as of this spring.
As for the Telerico interview, millions have clicked
on YouTube to see it.
Stephen Colbert making headlines.
Somebody that popular should get their own talk
show.
Colbert's point, he's losing his talk show in
three months.
It sounds like the whole thing was schemed.
Yeah, of course.
You got more views on YouTube and they're
still getting views.
Of course.
And that guy is nuts, that Telerico guy.
Yeah, he's running for Senate in the primary
against Jasmine Crockett.
Yes, against Crockett.
Yeah.
Which he may win.
He might, but that doesn't mean he's going
to win the general.
Oh, no, not the seat.
No, in the primary.
Yeah, he might win.
I wouldn't vote for her.
I have Osterholm about the MRNA shot.
I don't know if you're interested in that.
Or I have, yeah, I don't know if
I have anything.
Yeah, I got, yeah, this.
Another one of your predictions comes true yet
again as this continues to happen.
I'm on a roll.
Yeah.
In heartbreaking testimony, students who were shot in
their classroom at Appalachee High School in September
2024 recounted the horrifying moments Colin Gray's son,
Colt, allegedly opened fire.
Prosecutors charged Gray with nearly 30 counts, including
second-degree murder and involuntary manslaughter.
During opening statements Monday, the prosecutors alleged Gray
bought the AR-15-style rifle and ammunition
that his son used to kill four people
and injure nine others.
You can guess what's happening.
The parent, the father's going to go to
jail.
Yeah, well, this should have started years ago.
So I think we can conclude that the
next very sad trans person that does something,
shouldn't the parents also go to jail?
Absolutely.
I don't know if it's, I got boots
on the ground, which was just so sad.
Let me read this.
Unemployed ER nurse here again.
Working in a college town in the largest
ER in half the state, I see a
lot of trans people.
I believe the 41% number to be
low.
A brief look at it says it is
self-reported and only adults.
I think this is a suicide rate from
the last show.
I think it could count on two hands
the ones that I've worked with who haven't
had an attempt, but usually they try over
and over.
It is truly heartbreaking to see how these
mentally ill people have been lied to.
I used to laugh at them until I
met them.
They are unwell and pitiful.
It is to the point where if someone
is trans and they're at the ER for
a medical issue, the management will immediately put
them in the psych area because much like
an intoxicated person, it is very rare for
them to go through a whole visit without
it turning into a suicidal ideation visit.
I've seen many who are post-op and
have continual infections and their anatomy has changed
and so imaging is rarely diagnostic in that
it's an infection or just a resection colon.
There are very few places for them to
turn to help.
The system is fine making them trans but
not prepared to offer health care for the
newly altered bodies.
I believe suicide is a much higher number
and all of the teens that transition are
going to get strung out on drugs and
alcohol once they hit late 20s and early
30s.
I would expect another large increase in suicides.
What a travesty.
Yeah, and the liberals are still sticking to
it, sticking to their guns.
I know, I know.
Well, I do have one last clip before
the break of the Gen Z.
There's a new comment.
There's a new, maybe a phrase or something
in this clip that's something that The phrase
that pays?
Maybe.
You know, I may have a goofy ass
haircut but I think my lucky star is
every single day that I'm not a fat,
balding conservative with those tacky sunglasses in my
piece of shit pickup truck.
I misunderstood what happened here.
I misunderstood it too.
What's the point of the clip then?
I'm trying to figure out why I've clipped
that.
Some things you said at the beginning.
Let me hear it again.
Hold on.
You know, I may have a goofy ass
haircut but I think my lucky star is
every single day that I'm not a fat,
balding conservative with those tacky sunglasses in my
piece of shit pickup truck.
Possibly.
Oh, yeah.
Okay.
I'd like to thank my lucky It was
something.
It wasn't lucky.
My lucky star is my lucky.
It was she dreamed.
There's a phrase they couldn't say.
You can't even hear.
It's hard to catch.
Worst, worst clip ever.
Worst clip of the day.
We need a jingle.
Yeah, on no agenda In the morning We
actually have that.
That clip sucked.
Yeah, okay.
We should play.
I'll get more of those so we can
play that more often.
But there's something.
I'll go back and deconstruct that clip and
tell you what the punchline was.
Unfortunately, I did too many clips.
I lost track of what these clips are.
But we haven't lost track of the people
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tip of the day coming up.
As well as some really really cool end
of show mixes.
We have you know, who's back is Secret
agent Paul did it, you know when you
mentioned Two shows ago that AOC and miss
South Carolina sounded like each other Had you
seen someone do that or was that of
your own accord?
I thought about it So he didn't see
it anywhere No, because there were like five
different Podcast yeah, what's obvious?
That's why I You know as they sound
alike, but it came right on the heels
of our show and I'm like you guys
Borrow that well Secret agent Paul did the
best AOC miss South Carolina mashup.
Yeah, that is a good one.
I heard earlier It's done properly it was
a mix match absolutely, but do you have
no ISOs?
Nope, I didn't I had all the ISOs
last time you didn't have any and so
I'm giving you the free reign Okay, you
choose from one of the following two.
This is all I got.
Wow.
That was a wild experience Like that one
and there's this one.
Oh my god, your audio is incredible That's
just too much for you Alright, we'll do
the first one then.
Hey everybody.
It's time now for John's tip of the
day This comes in from a producer and
I thought it was worth putting up because
these things are normally cost money To have
something so complete This is a files type
converter with Although I will say there's one
file type missing From the this is every
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is the website's the screw It's a github
project.
So it's gonna have a screwy website.
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than screwy.
Let me say I know it's terrible.
It's just all right.
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you or the yeah.
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this file format.
I've never even heard of But a lot
of my never heard of either but I
will say that anyone who has access to
whoever coded this To tell them to put
in KDC it's missing.
What's KDC?
KDC is an early a JPEG Format that
Kodak used and KDC stands for Kodak digital
camera.
Do you still have a Floppy somewhere with
these KDC pics.
I have plenty of KDC files Yeah, cuz
I was on the stick early in this
in this game You were I would I
was digital before anybody knew what was happening,
that's right interesting and of course when you
Drag your file to convert it.
He has a copy and and he can
blackmail you later Yeah, well, that's possible.
I love the fact that there's an advanced
mode And it's the same by the way,
it just turns orange It just changes colors
beautiful there is everybody find all of John's
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Everybody.
Thank you very much Dana Brunetti for creating
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laughs.
We've got MVP and secret agent Paul We
got some tribute to the trolls tributes to
the Epstein files and tributes to AOC and
miss, South Carolina What else do you need?
Nothing?
I say nothing at all So we'll be
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the blue light from the troll room today
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a foray you're dissecting the love You're counting
the flaws with your digital pitch folks and
your keyboard claws.
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cheat while you're rotting away in your ergonomic
seat.
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the dark trying to blow out a flame
with a cynical spark You're a jury of
losers in a room with no view Judging
a world that's moved on without you.
My vocals are piercing.
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any skin you're living in Stay in your
basement I'm the ghost in your speakers In
your basement, I'm the ghost in your speakers
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commit u.s. Troops to defend Taiwan You
know, I think that I personally believe that
US Americans are unable to do so this
is such a you know, I think that
this is a I believe that our education
like such as in South Africa and Taiwan
this is of course a very long-standing
Policy of the United States and Iraq everywhere
like such as and I think what we
are hoping for is that we want to
make sure that we never get to that
point and I believe that they should Our
education over here in the u.s. Should
help the u.s. I should help Taiwan
and we want to make sure that we
are moving in all of our economic Research
it should help that I recommend Asian countries
and our global positions to avoid Any such
confrontation and for that question to even arise?
Thank you very much Robert Maxwell
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