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Adam Curry, John C.
Dvorak.
It's Thursday, March 12th, 2026.
This is your award-winning Gilboa Nation Media
Assassination Episode 1850.
This is no agenda.
Releasing the oil and broadcasting live from the
heart of the Texas Hill Country here in
FEMA Region Number 6.
In the morning everybody, I'm Adam Curry.
And this is Mimi Smith-Dvorak coming to
you from the Pacific Northwest where weathermen try
to give us hope by saying there's chance
of sunbreaks in the morning.
Hey, these weathermen you're looking at, they are
a bunch of fake news.
Well, that's why you listen to Max Velocity.
No, Max Velocity was wrong too.
I mean, everybody's like, you better shelter in
place, Curry, it's coming your way, you're gonna
die.
They tried to get me with the weather
machine but failed.
The entire storm went around Fredericksburg.
We had lots of thunder, a little bit
of rain, but nothing else.
It was fantastic.
And so Max Velocity was wrong.
Well, he never talks about my part of
the world.
It's still raining.
No one cares.
Well, no.
And of course, no one cares about Missouri.
There are people missing and it's a mess.
I haven't seen on the news at all.
Not for a second.
News?
What's news?
Well, there's that.
There's that.
So right off the bat, we have a
clip from John.
Ah, now you want to give us an
update first or we want to go straight
into the clip?
Go straight to the clip.
Hey, this is John in the hospital.
I wanted to say hello to all the
well-wishers in the No Agenda show.
And I will be giving a food report
after I get that.
I don't want to give it now because,
you know, who knows what they'll do.
But it can't be worse than spitting in
the food.
So anyway, I hope to be getting back
on online within the next week.
And thanks.
So thanks for your support.
You know, he sounds almost like the old
John, but there's I detect something new in
his voice.
Well, that's because he's tired.
That was at the end of the day.
He's they're making him he's in rehab, the
rehab part of the hospital.
So they're making him get up and walk
around and, you know, sit up and sit
down and, you know, fight, fight, fight.
So, you know, Jay recorded this in the
evening.
So he's a little tired in the morning.
He actually doesn't have much of a voice.
No, in the morning, he sounds great.
But towards the evening, he starts getting a
little sluggish.
And, you know, he's always optimistic.
So there's that.
So we'll see.
Do you think that he can actually be
back?
He said back online.
Does that mean back on the mic back
on air within a week?
Does he really think he can do that?
You know, maybe we'll have to play it
by ear and figure out of how to
do this, because, yeah, he's going to have
to ease back into it.
He's not 100 percent yet.
That's for sure.
Well, no.
How's the how's his mobility?
How's his walking?
How's.
Well, the Jay and Brennan heard the occupational
therapist go slow down, slow down as he
was trailing behind him on the ward.
So good.
Yeah, he's doing great.
Yeah.
I talked to him.
When did I talk to him?
Monday, I think, or Tuesday.
Yeah.
And he sounded really good.
I was just like, you know, I said,
does it hurt?
He says yes.
When he laughs, when he coughs.
OK, got it.
But yeah, he sounded.
Uncharacteristically grateful, does that make any sense?
He's like, hey, thanks for calling.
Tina said, can you talk to him?
I said, what are we going to say?
Like, we don't talk ever, but we only
talk on the show.
I don't need to talk to him.
And then I heard Horowitz talk to him.
Dana Brunetti talked to him like, well, I
should talk to him.
I should say something.
He's using his cell phone.
Wow.
For what?
For surfing?
Oh, just to call.
Oh, no, that too.
No, he's probably, for all I know, he's
listening to the show.
But yeah, you know, it's it's very encouraging.
I can finally exhale and relax a little
bit.
So yeah, I know we're happy to hear
that here.
I've got so, of course, still a lot
of emails coming in and and everyone's very
concerned.
There was something you said on on the
last show.
What was that?
Are you OK?
A 16-year-old basset hound who just
yawned.
Wait a minute.
How many dogs do you have?
We got Moose locked up in your bedroom.
Now you've got a basset hound.
Is that the one that used to live
with John or is this a different one?
Different one.
And this is it's her sister, actually, the
one that used to live with John.
This is her sister.
I have four dogs.
OK, just an all time low for me.
So here's here's the note that someone sent.
When you asked about John's Medicare, Mimi said
it only covers 60 percent.
It freaked me out.
I'm retiring next year.
Everything I read says it covers 80 percent
plus coverage is available for the remaining 20
percent.
Was Mimi just mistaken?
Maybe I was going by what a hospital
person told me.
I have no idea.
I've heard I've heard all kinds of varying
numbers.
We didn't get much of the extended coverage
that you can opt for because we pay
an awful lot for Medicare, just the part
A and B as it is.
So for whatever reason, you know, I mean,
it's fine.
Well, you know, it's fine.
I'll have you see I'll have to work
more.
Have you you should start a podcast.
You have a podcast studio here.
So I do.
Yeah.
Everybody wants you and Tina to do a
show now.
All of a sudden, it's like, OK, fine,
fine.
What do you know what the hospital bill
is yet?
If you don't mind me asking.
No, no, nobody will tell me that at
all because I I'm always asking questions like,
OK, it's going into rehab for a week.
How much does that cost?
And they all go, oh, they don't have
our pay.
It's above our pay grade.
I've heard that three times now.
So we'll see.
So looking at the at the quad screen
right now, we have a shooting at a
synagogue in Michigan.
Everybody is freaked out about Islam.
Islam is taking over Texas.
And now we have the big scare in
California.
I'm going to ramp it up for you
here.
Say Federal Joint Terrorism Task Force has warned
California law enforcement agencies that the Iran war
could lead to a surprise drone attack somewhere
in the state of California.
And while the warning is being taken seriously,
there is no credible threat at this time.
Mary Beth McDade joins us live from the
KTLA News Center with more details on this
developing news.
I can hear while the FBI isn't commenting.
Both Governor Newsom and Mayor Bass confirm they're
aware of the FBI alert that was sent
out last month as tensions were heating up
between the U.S. and Iran.
The alert warns that Iran may conduct a
surprise drone attack against targets in California if
the U.S. carries out strikes against Iran.
Now, of course, the Babylon B already posting.
Thank you, Sir.
Ben Rose, that Iran says they've canceled the
planned California attack after seeing that Gavin Newsom
already destroyed it.
That makes total sense.
They did.
They did ask the president about this on
Air Force One.
President Trump, what have you heard about this
bulletin that some law enforcement put out about
a possible Iran revenge plot in California, where
there would be some kind of a boat
off shore launching drones towards being investigated.
But you have a lot of things happening.
And all we can do is take them
as they come.
And the war itself is being prosecuted as
well as anybody has ever seen.
And this is other countries telling me to
big countries, powerful countries.
They said they've never seen anything like it.
And they also agree with what I'm doing.
They say it's it's an evil country.
And it's been for 47 years that way.
And if they try to hit us back,
have you been briefed about how many Iran
sleeper cells there could be inside the U
.S. right now?
And a lot of people came in through
Biden with this stupid open border.
But we know where most of them are.
We've got our eye on all of them,
I think.
They came in through the open border policies
of sleepy Joe Biden, one of the worst,
the worst president in the history of our
country.
And we've got our eyes on all of
them.
But the war itself is being prosecuted at
a level that nobody's seen before.
It's pretty it's pretty amazing.
So being a media deconstructionist, I'm like, OK,
where's this coming from?
Where's the report from?
Who said this?
What is going on?
I noticed.
Yes.
Yes.
Well, I will actually go ahead.
OK, we're going to keep we're going to
keep we're going to keep doing this until
we yeah, until we get it.
You're supposed to say go ahead, Kara.
That is the that is.
Go ahead, Kara.
I noticed a lot of these reports came
from ABC.
And so I go looking at ABC and
well, listen to this report.
Good afternoon.
I can tell you we just learned that
the FBI reportedly warned California police about that
unconfirmed intelligence report involving a possible drone strike
by Iran off the West Coast.
That's according to ABC News.
It's reports like that one, which is exactly
why we see some barricades outside fencing here.
We know that by Sunday, there will be
hundreds of police officers deployed here to the
Dolby Theater, along with hundreds of federal homeland
security and FBI personnel.
But important to note, authorities emphasize there is
no confirmed specific threat tied to the Oscars
right now, but they say high vigilance is
necessary given the global tensions created by the
conflict with Iran.
Authorities say an encoded shortwave radio message believed
to have originated in Iran was detected shortly
after the reported killing of the country's supreme
leader on February 28th.
Investigators say the number sequence resembled signals historically
used to communicate with covert operatives and may
have been intended for sleeper cells, though officials
stress there is no confirmed threat tied to
it right now.
ABC News, as we just said, reporting the
FBI recently warned California law enforcement about intelligence
suggesting Iran may have considered launching drone attacks
from a vessel off the US West Coast.
If American strikes occurred, officials say the report
included no details on timing targets or perpetrators
and remains unconfirmed.
Oh, so it's unconfirmed.
It's an old report and the Oscars are
this Sunday on ABC.
Absolutely.
But so when I first heard about the
cryptic messages, I started looking around and I
occasionally go to some of the, I think
they're wonks technically, who are really into shortwave.
Now, when I was a kid, I had
a shortwave radio, so I know what they're
talking about.
Most people don't.
So I do have a really good from
Ringway Manchester and introduction to the shortwave numbers,
what it means.
So that's, it says shortwave introduction.
Well, it's been hold on, shortwave introduction.
Yes, I got it.
I got it.
The signal in question is a number station.
For those who don't know, they're mainly groups
of numbers, sometimes letters, encrypted by means of
a one-time pad, making them impossible to
decode by anyone except the sender and recipient.
They've been used for almost 100 years now
to send and receive the most sensitive information
between the intelligence services and agents and spies
in the field.
Aside from voice messages, number stations also consist
of data and digital modes, as well as
code.
There are still many in use today.
It's not often we see new number stations
appear these days, however.
The most recent one I can recall is
V30, the Vietnamese lighthouse number station.
It appeared on February the 21st, 2010, but
disappeared on May the 6th, 2016.
The thought of a number station appearing on
the air in 2026 is something really spectacular
and quite honestly unbelievable.
A new one has appeared, though it would
seem, on 7910kHz last night and tonight, and
it's definitely one to watch.
It's believed to be operated by Iran.
Iran has never operated a number station before.
This one appeared suddenly and mysteriously after the
death of really
stupid reports in the past few weeks.
I'm a ham radio guy, so I know
all about the digital stations, and then all
of a sudden on a part of the
band where people send digital messages, which is
actually one of my favorite ways of doing
ham radio, because you can do it with
low power.
All of a sudden they're like, oh, listen
to this, and it's just like Olivia or
it's PSK32 or 31.
I mean, this is nothing special.
So for now all of a sudden to
have a number station pop up, that's interesting.
So what do you have?
So I've got, there's four clips and they
all kind of fit together.
I keep my clips really short because it's
easier for me.
Where this guy, Ringway Manchester, actually discusses it,
he goes into probably too much detail, such
as he talks about that it shows up
and suddenly there's a lot of bubble sounds
that show up.
The way that they can block it is
through this much louder sound, and Iran is
blocking the station so it keeps bouncing around.
So we should probably just go to Ringway
Final because that explains what they think it
is, because they don't think it originates from
Iran.
They know that the countries that still do
these number stations include Israel and Russia.
Russia, yeah.
And they haven't, because it's jumping around, they
also haven't been able to figure out where
the tower is, but they do not think
it comes from Iran.
So if we do, I think six is
a pretty good final.
Is this the wrong one?
This is the Manchester Final?
Is that what you want me to play
here?
Three, I'm sorry.
Manchester Three.
The Finals.
Just a final.
Sorry.
All right, no problem.
Many of the comments on my recent videos
regarding this station have posed the same question.
Could V32 actually be operated by somebody other
than Iran?
Could it be operated by the United States
Central Intelligence Agency or Israel's Mossad in order
to signal agents inside Iran has been the
main question put forward in the comments.
While many people have raised this question, on
the face of it, it sounds absurd.
The CIA hasn't operated a number station for
many decades, and Israel hasn't for about 15
years either.
Presumably they've moved to more sophisticated ways of
sending secret information.
These past few days, however, something has happened
that would appear to support the theory that
the Persian number station may not be Iranian
in origin.
It's been jammed, and it's been jammed hard.
The interesting thing is that the jammer sounds
remarkably like the bubble jammers Iran uses and
has used for many years in order to
jam foreign broadcasters such as Radio Fada.
It's like I'm living in the 50s again.
What is going on?
So our news station's going, oh, cryptic messages
from Iran.
Yes.
The experts in this are saying, uh-uh,
you know, uh-uh, I don't think so.
And it's, I always find it amusing that
our news spins it for fear.
It's just fear.
Oh, secret messages are getting out.
Well, yeah, we all saw the Americans, so
we know it's true.
We know that's how the Russians do it.
And of course, also during Russiagate, didn't we
have, who's that woman?
She was the wife of, I think, one
of the FBI agents, and they were communicating
through ham radio.
Gosh, I forget what the story was.
You know, Ron, if you listen to 2C
-TV, he talks about everybody's so freaked out
after the pager thing and everything else that
they aren't communicating through any devices.
They're sending couriers all over the place.
You know, I'm skeptical of this 2C-TV
guy.
Are you?
Yeah, I am, because he just popped up
all of a sudden.
And you even said on the last show,
you said, well, I don't know where he
came from.
I got a note from someone about it.
Hold on a second.
Oh, good.
Yeah.
So this producer is Israeli, living in the
US since 2017, February 22nd.
A friend of mine told me to go
watch 2C-TV reports that Iran launched some
100 missiles, a bunch were intercepted and nine
hit Tel Aviv.
I then checked in Israeli news outlets.
There was no mention of it.
Talked to friends in Israel who said that
no one was even thinking about Iran at
the time.
Reported back to my friend, the American, and
said all is quiet in the Holy Land.
He checked 2C's website again, and all of
a sudden those videos were gone.
March 1st, after the actual attacks, I asked
him to go to the website again and
see if they had the same video reports.
He said that the video he was watching
was pretty much the same one he watched
the week before.
So our producer's hypothesis, they had a package
all ready to roll.
Someone let it slip a week in advance
and 2C-TV is somehow someone else's billboard.
2C lives in the UK.
Okay.
I'm not saying that he's not in Iran.
The UK is our enemy.
Right.
Well, so he's, and the thing is he
has been on for about two years.
He used to do just long form documentaries
and I used to watch those.
So I'm familiar with them.
I'm not quite sure, but I enjoy watching
it because why not?
It's the same as watching mainstream media.
It's just a different perspective of propaganda.
I'm just saying, yes, yes.
I'm just saying we need to be suspicious
of 2C-TV.
I am at least.
I agree.
Okay.
So the final clip here.
No, you don't have to worry about that.
You skipped over it.
It's fine.
They fit together that way.
So the whole thing with shortwave, I'm just
amused that suddenly something pops up on shortwave
and I haven't thought about a number station
for years.
And I just, it's like, and suddenly our
news is saying, Oh, Oh, it's a cryptic
message.
It's blah, blah, blah.
Well, I have a recording of the, of
the number station that I wanted to share
with everybody.
And I think this is, it becomes kind
of obvious.
Standby.
33, 33, 33.
Robilizer out.
There you go.
It's obvious, obvious what the code is.
No, this is just a promotion for the
Oscars.
I'm telling you because the report from the
FBI is months old.
Oh yeah.
Oh yeah.
We're going to have an Iranian drone ship
off the coast of California.
Please.
Yeah, I know.
I find it to be interesting.
Meanwhile, you know, the thing in New York
with the mom dummies, the residents being bombed
as it first came out.
And then when the real story comes out,
it's like, it's like two teenagers.
No, it is two teenagers.
Yeah.
Here I have a clip.
New details tonight surrounding the Bucks County teenagers
accused of trying to carry out an ISIS
inspired attack in New York city.
ABC news has learned they allegedly considered other
targets before driving into Manhattan late Saturday morning
with homemade bombs while searching a storage unit
in Middletown Township.
This week, investigators discovered a notebook in which
the teens wrote about soft targets like shopping
centers.
Investigators also say Emir Bilat and Ibrahim Kayumi
had been planning some kind of attack for
at least a week.
Two members of the NYPD are being hailed
as heroes for their efforts in chasing down
the suspects near the mayor's home.
Gracie mansion.
They spoke today about their action.
I saw the device hit the floor and
I just ran.
I knew that I needed to save lives.
So I ran towards the people to make
sure that nobody got hurt.
It was all instinct.
There wasn't a lot of, there wasn't a
lot of thought, you know, there was a
real threat.
There was a real danger there.
And the goal was just to get to
it.
Bilat and Kayumi are being held on a
terrorism charge, use of weapons of mass destruction
and other offenses tonight.
Did these things even go off?
No, they didn't.
But, um, first I like the fact that
everybody was like, Oh, this is the very
first reports where it's, it's, you know, Iran,
Iran, except ISIS and Iran hate each other.
So I don't know how that works.
Details.
And then the other part is these, these,
so I have the Philly teen storage, which
I found to be very amusing.
Um, cause it's got, Oh, sorry.
I won't go ahead.
Go ahead.
I just, what I find really interesting is
the way this whole thing is reported.
Um, it was like, Oh God, how did
they get this information?
You know, how'd they do this?
And so let's play that teen storage and
then I will give you some other information.
This is the moment the FBI blew up
suspicious items found at a storage unit outside
Philadelphia.
Investigators say they contained explosive residue and were
linked to the two teens charged with attempting
to carry out an ISIS inspired attack in
New York.
One of the teens seen here hurling a
homemade bomb that tested positive for the explosive
TATP police say a second device the teen
ignited before running down the sidewalk and leaping
over a police barrier was also a potentially
viable explosive.
Hey, I'm a potentially viable explosive.
So they have a bunch of other reports
about how the kid was buying fuses.
Like that's some kind of thing with, if
you don't understand that in, um, Pennsylvania, they
have the laxest fireworks regulations in the country.
They have stores that are open 365 days
a year to buy class C fireworks, um,
consumer grade.
And, um, it's like where he went into
is like a, a chain of superstore for
fireworks.
Um, the kids are kind of interesting because
Emmer Amir Blatt, his father, it was sought
asylum in 1998.
He's been naturalized.
The kid was a senior, but not in
high school.
He was in a virtual program.
And then at the first meeting of court,
he said, Oh, his attorney said, well, he's
got complicated stuff going on.
Um, his father's a painter.
So, um, this, this TATP is, um, triacetone
triperoxide, which is just, um, hydrogen peroxide and
acetone.
His father would have, yeah, exactly.
Now, without too much trouble, I found multiple
instances where you can find out how to
make this online.
And I have one that's just that you
don't have to go on too long, but
this is one guy who actually did a
whole thing on how to make it.
It's called molecular playground.
Oh, I got it here.
Yes.
Investigators descending on a pair of quiet neighborhoods.
It's Linux pay no attention to what's going
on.
Here we go.
Thank you all for following me this past
year without you, I would have retired this
channel a long time ago.
Seriously.
If you asked me a year ago that
I would have a YouTube channel with a
thousand subscribers, I would think you're crazy, but
now I believe we can go even bigger
now, how big, well, let's find out.
However, with growth comes a growing pains.
It seems as some proxide, my video has
become a lightning rod for controversy.
And by that, I mean, it has more
than two negative comments.
In fact, only as some proxide has been
both revered and revired by the community.
Everything else has received nothing but love.
I can't stress enough.
The dangers of as some proxide, especially dry
looking back, I probably should have put a
PSA within the intro about its dangers.
Meanwhile, I have another one called eight years
ago on Facebook video.
Police say this guy is talking about a
highly explosive concoction, nicknamed the mother of Satan.
This is the stuff used in some deadly,
huge attacks like the one in Paris.
It's a Facebook video.
That's frightening.
It's only 3%.
Police say that's 28 year old Cali Volante
inside his Northeast Albuquerque apartment showing off a
trove of chemicals and actually synthesize a more
explosive compound.
TATP TATP or mother of Satan is a
combo of hydrogen peroxide, acetone and acid.
It's unclear if Volante is making it or
wants to, but the video on his public
profile was enough to get him arrested for
having an explosive device.
I remember this.
I mean, yeah, I remember all of the
more cases like this.
Yes, I found about 15 right off the
bat.
Yeah, people were getting arrested in the drugstore
for buying too much nail polish remover, you
know, all kinds of stuff like that.
Now, because I looked up the FBI affidavit
to see if they had been in contact
with the boys beforehand.
Appears not.
But one of the boy's mom did report
him missing on the day of the attack.
So.
There's that.
The whole thing just stinks.
Well, you know, the whole thing is it's
like, but then the one thing that that
showed up and then it disappeared is that
they it was after the Russell paper, sorry,
that it was claimed early on that both
of them watched ISIS propaganda on their phones.
And OK, maybe the claim is that ISIS
recruits from Roblox and they're called cubs of
the cell of fate and celibate revivalists.
There's a whole bunch of specials that have
never gotten a lot of airplay that are
about this 764 targeting.
Oh, yeah.
Now we've talked about 764.
Sure.
Right.
So I'm waiting for that to start to
get connected with this just because there are
so many stupid videos on 764, which, you
know, again, it sounds a lot like like
Epstein stuff.
It also seems like, you know, it's the
same thing that I've heard forever.
How, you know, the Internet is preying on
your children.
Well, it is.
Of course, it is.
It is.
But I think the overarching thing is that
this is not new.
This has been going on forever.
All of these types of Internet getting kids
to do stupid stuff, most of it perpetrated
by the FBI.
Like, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I'll tell you where to go.
You go get the stuff over there.
And then when they're about to hit the
the phony ignition, then they arrest them.
And then the FBI is the hero.
So not in this case.
Right.
Well, in this case, it was the bomb
wasn't put together properly because I guess these
kids aren't all that great when it comes
to following directions.
So it's so good to scare the American
public continuously.
That's what we want.
We want a scared population.
Scare them.
And the entire situation was Nick Shirley actually
interviewed Jake Lang, who was the one who
was doing the anti Islamist thing at Mondami's
house.
And he had a lot of press there
and he was walking a goat because his
entire thing was that, you know, that Muslims
screwed goats.
He had a roasted pig in front of
Mondami's house.
He was just doing everything he could, which
is what he does to be inflammatory and
annoying.
And so a bunch of other people on
the other side came out and that was
the protest.
But there were never more than like 50
people in front of the house.
It was really not the whole thing is
like it was lame.
And it's like I and the amount of
crazy stuff that came out.
I actually I really like the amount of
time he first comes out and he's like
criticizing this anti that they were attacking him.
That was the first thing he said.
You know, it was like everything started to
twist.
But oddly enough, people twisted back.
And I think that the best thing is
the Mondami criticism for March 9th.
I have a clip that I just thought
I keep talking over.
I'm sorry.
We'll get it down.
New York City Mayor Zoran Mondami also facing
brutal backlash over his response to that attack.
Mondami posted a statement labelizing the protest organizer
as a white supremacist, but never mentioned that
it was the protesters who were the ones
targeted or that the suspects appeared to have
radical Islamic motives, according to investigators.
New York Congressman Mike Lawler responded online, writing,
quote, They were radical Islamic terrorists as mayor
of the largest city in the world and
the greatest target of terrorism.
You don't need to confront this head on.
Don't just call out one group of protesters
and not the other group.
Yeah.
Yeah, this is perfect.
You know, in the age of social media,
Fredericksburg, everybody's all flipping out because, you know,
this had been this constant nonstop campaign that
is Islam is taking over Texas.
It's it's it's nonstop.
The number of fake bomb things in the
news in the last week have just been
insane.
You know, this school, you know, hospitals, this
and that.
But if you look at the the numbers,
you know, there's last year alone, there were
twenty four hundred, you know, bomb fake bomb
calls and we sure didn't hear about it.
So it's it's a convenient thing to trot
out to try to scare people.
Well, here's Anderson Cooper continuing the continuing the
fear.
Richard, I'm wondering what do you make of
that FBI memo?
Because we were showing pictures of Shahid drones.
It seems unlikely Iran would have access to
Shahid drones in the U.S., but certainly
commercial drones, Jerry, rigged with explosives.
We've seen that all over Ukraine.
Oh, I should mention I'm I met with
a buddy from Holland yesterday.
He's the he runs a nonprofit, the I
forget the name of the nonprofit, but it's
the crisis response.
And he brings in mesh networks and gets
people up on Wi-Fi.
And so we had the big flood here.
He I remember.
Yeah, he came in.
So he's he's actually setting up a company
in in San Antonio, really nice guy, Afert.
And he said, man, you would not believe
that the minute all of the EU decided
to spend all this hundreds of millions of
euros on anti drone technology, guess what?
The drones stopped flying over airports all of
a sudden.
You don't hear about it anymore.
It's all a scam.
It's amazing.
Perfect example, Anderson.
Could the Iranians get their larger drones into
the country or off the coast of California?
Highly doubtful.
But we heard them describe this as an
aspirational thought.
What we're really concerned about is it becomes
inspirational.
This is California, the largest Iranian population in
the United States.
And there certainly could be several people that
are sympathetic to the regime.
So that's certainly one of the problems.
So this threat, which was described as aspirational,
not imminent.
What is the intelligence threshold for when the
FBI shares this kind of information with other
law enforcement agencies?
Well, this is the job of the Joint
Terrorism Task Force in every FBI office every
single day.
They coordinate with all of their partners.
In this case, it looks like this information
came from the Coast Guard.
They correlate this information.
Again, we heard it's unverified, uncorroborated, no actionable
intelligence.
But in this day and age, they're going
to share that information.
They have no choice.
Nobody wants to be caught sitting on any
of this.
And we see that California is taking the
appropriate steps.
They're going to notify their emergency responders.
All the police departments throughout the state are
aware of this.
And that means they'll just check their traps.
They'll talk to the people that they need
to talk to, talk to any sources, research
any ongoing cases and look to see if
anything like this is being planned.
Yeah, Disaster Tech Lab is the name of
Afert's non-profit.
So yeah, this is, you know, just more
fear.
And of course, now we have this Michigan
car crashing into a synagogue and, you know,
Michigan, Dearborn, Islam, they're taking over.
We're going to be like, yeah, we got
Tommy Robinson going around to churches and texts.
I like Tommy Robinson in general, but he's
going to pastors and saying, you better start
talking about this because it's happening.
You don't want to be like the UK.
You're probably more vulnerable.
The situation is quite different.
You know, Texas has 400,000 Muslims.
Are there some Islamists who are nuts?
Of course.
But it's not like, I don't like it
when people are walking around afraid of a
brown person.
It's stupid.
Well, and California, yes, has a large Iranian
population, especially in Los Angeles.
Yeah, Persians, we call them.
We're Persians.
And most of them were never Muslims to
begin with.
I mean, I know families from Iran that
moved to Southern California and they were they
were Jewish Iranians and Christian Iranians because they
were the ones that had the most to
lose by the Ayatollah coming in.
I mean, I know there were people that
I knew as a kid that were killed
by the Iranians, you know, by the Ayatollah.
They were just hauled off, tortured and killed.
I do not see that we need to
fear Iranians.
And I don't really see that I'm saying
that that, oh, well, you know, there's a
large Iranian population like they're a threat to
us.
I mean, no.
And this it's it's again, no one is
looking.
No one is looking at Iranians.
They're looking at Muslims.
And then so if there's a mosque, then
that mosque is by definition suspicious and they're
going to come and get you.
That's that's what's happening.
That's what's happening here in Texas.
It is.
And it's in particular Christians are being terrorized
with this.
Yeah, well, to get them to vote Republican,
it's always the same.
Yeah, I'm I kind of liked I have
a thing called Sky News priority of U
.S. media, and I found that to be
kind of a very interesting.
Take CNN, let's talk about them because they've
come under fire for spinning the ISIS inspired
attempted bombing out the front of the New
York mayor's residence into some kind of human
interest color story in a questionable post on
X.
The network wrote to Pennsylvania teenagers crossed into
New York City Saturday morning for what could
have been a normal day enjoying the city
during abnormally warm weather.
But in less than an hour, their lives
would drastically change as the pair would be
arrested for throwing homemade bombs during an anti
-Muslim protest outside of Mayor Zoran Mamdani's home.
I mean, even talking about just it was
an anti-Muslim protest, not the fact that
these two were suspected of doing it in
the name of ISIS, according to police.
CNN has since deleted the post and issued
an apology.
But truly, this is beyond parody, isn't it?
No, it's bizarre, but it's such obviously fascinating
insight.
It doesn't matter they deleted it because this
is what they were thinking.
They only deleted it because the backlash, but
such a fascinating insight into the legacy media
and how they deal with these issues.
Look, this is not crazy surprising, surprising, unfortunately.
I did a little bit of an analysis
and I fed this to three different A
.I. models.
And what they came up with that there's
been three in the last 24 hours, three
times as much coverage on these civilian deaths
in Iran than there has been on an
ISIS attack here in the United States.
It's absolutely incredible on what their priorities are.
And they're doing that, obviously, because they want
to make this war look like some evil,
terrible war where civilians are being murdered.
By the way, just for some context, CNN,
just so you know, yes, there've been a
little under 2,000 Ryan civilians who have
been killed, and that's awful, right, obviously.
But in context, you're talking about roughly between
15,000 and 30,000 bombs that have
been dropped in Iran.
Talk about precision to have 2,000 civilian
deaths with that kind of heavenly weaponry being
dropped in Iran shows you how much the
U.S. military in Israel cares about trying
not to hit civilian deaths.
That should be the article, not the article
saying, look how many civilian deaths and by
the way, ignoring pretty much the ISIS attacks.
It just gives you a sense of the
priorities of the U.S. media.
Yeah.
Obviously, I've seen her on Sky News.
We used to play a lot of clips,
but at a certain point, I'm like, look
at your own media, lady.
Yeah.
Oh, no, there's that.
It really sucks over there.
Okay.
And he used three large language models.
Oh, I'm so glad you did that.
Now I feel so secure in what you've
discovered.
The point, though, that we have we have
exploded a lot of stuff.
But when you consider that it's like it
takes out one apartment, you know, one apartment
in a complex and people are getting killed
that way.
You know, this isn't massive carpet bombing.
It's not.
It's a new style of warfare.
And for us to be going, oh, look
how many people were killed.
Well, you know, the IRGC killed easily in
the last protest, 30,000 people, and they've
killed more than 100,000 in the 47
years, if not more.
And it's like, you know, trying to make
this attack on Iran seem like, you know,
like, oh, you know, down with terrorists, down
with with with, you know, with horrible rulers.
Oh, but except Iran, we shouldn't be attacking
there.
I'm getting really confused by the whiplash that
I'm seeing.
And I'm seeing it here.
It's because it's Trump.
That's why Trump.
Trump is doing something that no president has
done.
And even me saying like he's doing something
no president has done.
People come out and I'm unsubscribing.
I will never donate.
I get it.
And yeah, President Trump definitely said no more
foreign wars, no more forever, whatever he said.
The idea was we're not going to have
war.
And it doesn't matter what he does, particularly
in the EU.
Again, from Everett, who just came over, he
says, you know, in Holland for years, like
all the poor Iranian people, we should set
them free.
They need help.
We need to do something.
Trump says we're coming to help.
And then I guess this is going to
help.
And immediately, oh, you should never done that.
It's no, it's Trump.
It's just Trump.
People hate Trump.
And Trump knows it.
And he's gotten over that.
He doesn't care anymore.
He's doing what he thinks is right.
I hope he's right.
I hope that he that it goes the
way he thinks it will.
A lot of my military contacts don't think
so.
They think that that's going to be similar
to Afghanistan.
There's going to be all kinds of crazy
people running the show over there.
And then neither you nor I will ever
be invited on Tucker Carlson show with he
had McGregor on who refused to even speak
to John for an interview, which still irks
John.
And here is McGregor's take.
We need to end this.
And somebody will say, well, why do you
need to end it?
Because if we don't, we're going to hit
$300 per barrel of oil.
We're going to watch 60 to 80 of
the stock value crash.
People are going to lose trillions in wealth.
It will be a disaster.
And it's not something we'll recover from.
We've we've already seen that the Israelis hit
a refinery on the outskirts of Tehran.
And what did Iran do?
They destroyed the refinery.
And it's supporting infrastructure in Haifa.
How does this help us?
How does this help anybody?
The damage that's being done is going to
be semi-permanent.
And by that, I mean, it's going to
take years to recover from this.
The Qatari government has said we're shutting down.
We can't store anymore.
We can't drill anymore.
We can't refine anymore.
I mean, this this is a catastrophe.
We look at this and say, well, only
3 percent of our oil comes from the
Gulf.
Well, I got news for you.
50 percent of it goes to India.
50 percent goes to China.
You know, 70 plus percent goes to Japan.
What?
Wait a minute.
He ran out of percent.
He went from 50 to 50 to 70.
What?
It goes to India.
50 percent goes to China.
You know, 70 plus percent goes to Japan.
Mid 60 percent or so, 64 or 65
percent goes to South Korea.
He's at 210 percent.
Now, we call the president or the prime
minister of Japan.
Did we call the president of Korea and
say, by the way, we're considering a war
against Iran, action against Iranians.
And we want to know what you think
the impact will be on your country, because
you are friends of ours.
You are our allies.
Did we do that?
I don't think so.
I think we are acting like the biggest
bully in the schoolyard to hell with everybody
else.
This is what I want.
And I'm going to pound your face into
the dust.
Well, you can't do that in international relations
for very long before people gang up against
you.
OK, that is that is his opinion there.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't want to have pizza at his
house because I don't think there's enough pizza
for everyone.
His percentage pizza.
Did you say pizza?
Did you want pizza with grape soda?
What are you talking about?
And jerky and jerky.
No, it's just it's just one of those.
It's it's new math.
You know, I went to school and when
they changed the math.
No, I think what he meant to say
is 75 percent of their imports comes from
Iran.
But it just came out in a strange
way.
But but this is this is clearly, clearly
about China.
And at the same time, it's clearly also
about Russia as Russia is now benefiting from
this even more than we are or or
probably equally to what we are.
And from everything I've understood, Russia is going
to start selling their oil and dollars.
This is this is ultimately what it's about.
It all since the pipeline episode, episode 100
or whatever it was.
It's it's about the oil.
It always is.
Well, yes, it is about the oil.
There's no two ways about it.
Unless unless you're Queen Ursula in the EU.
Oh, no, no, no.
Since the beginning of this conflict, gas prices
have risen by 50 percent and oil prices
have risen by 27 percent.
If you translate this in euros, the 10
days of war have already cost European taxpayers
an additional three billion euros in fossil fuel
imports additional.
That is the price of our dependence.
And honorable members, fact is, we have energy
sources that are homegrown renewables and nuclear.
Their prices have remained the same over the
last 10 days.
Yet in current crisis, some argue that we
should abandon our long term strategy and even
go back to Russian fossil fuels.
This would be a strategic blunder.
All right.
So after we blew up the nuclear plants
in Germany, we're now going to save our
souls with wind and with solar in the
EU.
But well, but going back to Russian fossil
fuels would be a blunder of epic proportion.
And so this brings us to the oil.
Yep.
Here's a little update on the latest in
the Straits tonight, with 20 percent of the
world's oil being prevented from passing through this
vital waterway.
Three vessels attacked in the critical Strait of
Hormuz.
One of those ships in flames, claiming the
captains ignored their warnings not to come through.
Attention, all ships from now on, all navigating
through the Strait of Hormuz is forbidden.
Meanwhile, a foreign oil tanker was ablaze in
the port of Mkassa near Basra in southern
Iraq.
A security source saying the vessel sustained significant
damage.
It's not yet known what the cause was.
And tonight, Iranian drones also striking Oman's largest
oil facility, setting off massive explosions in videos
circulating online.
All of this adding to huge global volatility
in oil markets and gas prices back in
the US.
Tonight, the retaliation from Iran on those ships
and oil fields seem as a major escalation.
It comes just hours after the US struck
at least 16 boats capable of laying sea
mines in that all important Strait of Hormuz.
Iran tonight now warning the world to get
ready for oil prices to skyrocket to $200
per barrel.
Earlier, the president was pressed if he'd still
encourage oil companies to pass through the dangerous
Strait of Hormuz.
After saying 24 hours ago, the crews on
those oil tankers should have the guts to
do it.
I think they should use.
And even as all of this plays out,
the president tonight in Kentucky claiming victory.
And we've won.
Let me say we've won.
You know, you never like to say too
early, you won.
We won.
We won the bet in the first hour
it was over.
David, these attacks by Iran causing havoc with
international shipping and oil prices.
President Trump has said he'd act to keep
the Strait of Hormuz open.
But so far, Iran's ability to pose danger
to any vessel all too clear.
So that predicates the releasing of oil from
the strategic reserves.
And I have a clip here from Cooper
about it.
So it's very hard to judge what winning
is and what we see from Iran, including
today, is they're not backing down, right?
They get a vote.
Iran gets a vote in this as well
in terms of how they respond.
And clearly they are willing to.
I mean, it seems like they're willing to
try to shut down the Strait of Hormuz,
even though economically it will hurt Iran.
They have other objectives.
And this is existential for them, right?
This is the survival of the regime.
Aside from killing the new Ayatollah's father and
as well as his mom and his sister,
you know, they've completely, this is a moment
for them of survival.
And so you saw them today, as you
pointed out, they attacked ships, commercial ships in
the straits.
They don't care the prices are going up.
I think they believe that's their greatest, that's
their greatest strength against the world.
Obviously, the president and some of our partners
releasing oil reserves today, significant oil reserves.
I'm not sure how much of an impact
that's going to have on pricing, but they
know people are feeling it at home.
And they're watching on TV, seeing what's going
on as this spreads in the north and
with Hezbollah in Lebanon.
It's always amazing how when the president makes
the, gets the prices down of gasoline at
the pump, there's no real talk about it.
But now it's like, oh, he's making everything
spike.
And I got, I got an interview that
I found on CNBC, which was quite good,
surprisingly, but CNBC does have to get into
some factual stuff with the secretary of energy,
Wright, is it Steve Wright?
Wright, I forget his first name.
I don't know what his name is.
And he gave a little more information into
exactly what's going on, because we're not really
letting anything go out of our strategic reserves.
We're not, because that takes a while to
get the, to get the oil out.
Listen to what they're doing instead.
U.S. plans to release 172 million barrels
of oil from the strategic petroleum reserve in
an effort to lower energy costs during the
Iran war.
Joining us now is energy secretary, Chris Wright.
For hanging out, I'm doing some, some math
here and thinking about the SPR.
We're only at 58% right now.
If we use 172 million out of 415,
we'll be below 50% full, won't we?
We will.
But as we release this oil to address
the short-term needs, we're doing it in
swaps.
So we're going to release 172 million barrels
and swap it for more than 200 million
barrels.
That'll be back in the reserve within a
year.
So ultimately this is going to help us
fill the reserve, but we need the oil
in the short-term for the, for a
short-term pain for long-term gain.
How does that work?
Because I saw that.
So that you will get an, we'll get,
you'll get 200 back with no cost to
the taxpayer.
How does that work?
Just think of the, the, the price structure
of oil right now, you know, it's backward
dated.
So the front month price is much higher
than the 12 months out price.
Right.
Okay.
All right.
So, so yeah, that, that, that the math
actually works out.
I think it's a great idea.
We'll just do a swap.
Yeah.
And then, and then when we just, we
just borrow the oil to give us this
oil.
And then when the price is back to
60, we'll give you some oil back.
That's a smart, smart way to do it.
Of course.
I love all this.
You know, in Washington state, we have the
second highest gas prices in the country, where
for years and years, we were right in
the, in the pack with, with the average
price around the country.
But, you know, good old Inslee pushed through
the climate commitment act and saying, Oh, it's
only going to add one or two cents.
Well, it doesn't add one or two cents.
It adds about 50 cents to our per
gallon of oil of gasoline.
And it hurts.
It really hurts because we're living way out
here on the peninsula.
And, you know, it's two and a half
hours to get to Seattle.
Everything gets trucked to us.
And the bump that we've seen has been
about 20 cents, 30 cents on average.
But meanwhile, you know, it's, you know, some
of the legislators are going, well, we should
roll it back.
And, and the governor's saying, no, no, we
can't.
No climate change, climate change, climate change.
Well, the money's already spent.
And then, and then in California, you know,
there are more and more refineries leaving because
of the crazy stuff that's been passed to
get them out.
So it's like, why, you know, you're already
killing us with these prices.
I mean, I've seen pictures.
What's the gas prices where you are?
They have to be something that would just
make me cry.
In the threes.
Okay.
Yeah.
For premium, for premium, super duper 98 octane.
I think it's three 40.
It's five here.
Yeah.
It's five here.
Yeah.
Well, you're in a crap state.
I'm sorry.
You know, Texas, Texas, Uber, all of us,
right.
Right.
Continues here to explain that it's not just
the U S releasing a strategic reserves.
And again, it's not just the United States
that's releasing, you know, it's 30 nations around
the world.
There's no shortage or even really tight oil
market in the Western hemisphere.
The issues in Asia, that's where the oil
from the Persian Gulf flows.
Japan is releasing three times more than their
pro rat a share just addressing where, where
is the struggle is in refineries in Asia.
We're just getting oil into those refineries as
quick as possible.
We're going through a short term disruption, but
it's overdue to address this Iranian threat.
That's that's festered and grown for 47 years.
Okay.
Trying to make it sound good.
And, uh, are we ready to escort ships
yet?
Uh, Chris, I think people are, are, are,
you know, would, would love to see the
Navy being able to escort a tanker through
the straight and earlier this week from an
ex post, it looked like that was happening.
It, it, it, it wasn't happening.
I guess the white house later said that
it was incorrect.
Why isn't it happening?
Can it happen now?
It will, it happened soon that the Navy
can do that.
It'll happen relatively soon, but it can't happen
now.
We're simply not ready.
All of our military assets right now are
focused on destroying Iran's offensive capabilities and the
manufacturing industry that supplies their offensive capabilities.
You know, we don't want this to be
a brush off for a year or two.
We want to permanently destroy their ability to
build missiles, to build drones, to have a
nuclear program.
It is amazing.
They have invested all of the wealth of
their country, deprived the rights of all of
their people simply to build a war machine.
And we are systematically day by day, destroying
that war machine.
I like this because that was the first
time someone's given kind of a straight answer.
So what we're actually doing and for him
to say, Oh no, we're getting rid of
all their production because obviously we need us
companies to go in there and start doing
production and refining.
And then Becky, Becky over at CNBC, she
had a series of very good questions wearing
her, she wears a tie, which is kind
of looks, looks kind of odd.
Secretary Wright, when you say weeks, not months
for the incursion, the war, whatever you might
want to call this, the question that the
markets are focused on, does that mean days
or weeks before you might be able to
start escorting some of those tankers through the
strait?
When we talked to an oil expert earlier
this morning, she suggested that if this carries
on for the next couple of weeks through
the end of the month, that you could
be looking at oil prices above $150.
And it's not just oil that there are
concerns about.
There is helium, the tanks of helium trying
to get through because that's critical to making
sure we can continue to manufacture semiconductors.
There's nothing that can be substituted for the
cooling properties of helium with that.
Do you think by the end of this
month, the US Navy will be escorting some
of those ships through the strait?
I think that, yes, I think that is
quite likely the case.
But again, I mean, I'll be over at
the Pentagon later today.
But that is, that is what the military
is working on.
And yes, a lot of critical materials come
out of the Straits of Hormuz.
Look, we have a large global economy.
Fortunately, with President Trump's policies, you know, the
United States is a net exporter of oil.
We're a net exporter of natural gas.
And in fact, we're growing our net exports
of natural gas this spring, this summer.
You'll see massively more capacity online by the
end of this year.
Natural gas is another product.
So we've done the right things in the
US to make the Western Hemisphere a much
better place and to supply the world.
But it is short term pain for the
long term gain.
But it's simply a must achieve thing.
Otherwise, you've got decades into the future of
an Iran that can hold the world hostage
whenever it wants.
Yes, you know, there is disruption right now
to do this.
And if we had if the election had
gone another way, we probably would our kids
would be living with Iran, you know, to
the end of their lives.
That's not acceptable outcome.
They've been with me my whole life so
far.
Well, not the IRGC.
Since when have we ever escorted merchant marine
ships anywhere?
My dad was a merchant marine.
He was a merchant marine in World War
Two.
During World War Two, you know, that all
everything was munitions, supplies, everything was shuttled around
by merchant ships.
And they were sitting ducks.
They were, they were sunk more than any
other group of military, military ships weren't sunk.
Merchant marine ships were sunk when he was
in Vietnam, he did the munitions thing through
the, you know, all their little waterways.
And there was, the big thing was don't
go on deck because people on the shore
will pick you off.
There was no, we've never escorted ships, even
through small areas, even through the Suez Canal,
when we had problems with that.
Well, the thing, the thinking here is that
because Lloyd's of London won't insure ships, or
they went up to $450,000 a day
from $50,000 a day, that the president
said, okay, we'll insure the ships at reasonable
rates, because, you know, he's a sales guy,
best rates, and we'll escort them.
I think they will do that.
Why wouldn't they?
I mean, since when?
Well, this is a different president.
Maybe he will make good on that.
But do we have enough ships to do
that?
I don't know.
I know.
I don't know.
I know.
That's a good question.
I have no idea.
I've just never heard of this.
And, you know, I mean, my dad was
in a high risk occupation.
And, you know, you know, he, and he
just accepted it.
This whole concept that we're going to be
able to protect merchant ships is kind of
odd to me.
Well, considering the drone, the, the seed drones
they they've been showing off, it seems complicated.
And those things are wild.
It's just like a little miniature speedboat and
just goes in and blows up a ship.
I don't know.
I don't know that that but I'm all
I can tell you.
That's what they're saying they're going to do.
We'll have to see not not months, weeks.
Right.
Okay.
Well, this entire this all seems to me
to be that what we're really doing is
fighting China.
You know, we're trying to get, you know,
and it's so much for Timu.
No, you're screwed on Timu.
There's actually I got a clip from also
from Sky News, Peter Schweitzer.
And I know him from the book, Clinton
Cash.
He did some other ones.
I like those books.
I think he's a great investigative writer, I
guess not really a writer.
Now he's with he has what is called
the Government Accountability Institute.
And he was on Sky News in Australia.
And he explained how what is happening in
Iran is also bad for China in another
way.
One of the things that we've seen here
is Chinese technology going into the proving ground
of battle and actually not doing that great.
We've seen Chinese ships that were heavily dependent
on Chinese technology.
Now at the bottom of the ocean, we've
seen Chinese air defense systems that, as one
person said, work by work by blowing up
when there's a missile near them.
Is this showing that the Chinese military may
be a bit more paper tiger than we
had thought or feared?
Yeah, yes, absolutely.
And I think this is a big concern
for Beijing.
Let's remember, Beijing gave to Iran their most
advanced air defense systems, highly touted.
They didn't end up doing anything.
They didn't shoot down a single American or
Israeli plane.
And they were destroyed by the air forces.
There are intelligence systems that China has set
up in Iran that didn't work.
And this to me is reminiscent of what
happened during the Cold War back in 1982.
The Israeli Air Force and the then Syrian
Air Force squared off above Lebanon that year.
The Israelis were flying American F-15s and
the Syrians were flying MiG-25s.
The Israelis won that air force, that air
war, by shooting down 82 MiGs without suffering
a single casualty.
Yes, the pilot training was key, but the
technology was important as well.
But what happened after that is the Soviet
ability to sell their arms and to gain
that revenue and to gain a political advantage
with the countries buying those weapons kind of
evaporated.
Because if you're in the developing world, why
do you want the second best weapons system
when you might be facing the first weapons
system?
So I anticipate that this is a major
concern for China as it looks to trying
to sell arms abroad and also use those
arms sales to advance their political agenda.
Yeah, so hurt everywhere with a meeting coming
up between Trump and Xi.
I'm not sure when it is supposed to
be happening pretty soon.
Yeah.
And already the President's talking about Section 301.
This is the new tariff gambit from Article
122, I think.
So Section 301 gives the President the ability
to stop trade, to change trade, to levy
tariffs.
What is it here?
Yeah, Section 301 of the Trade Act aim
to identify unfair trade practices, particularly structural excess
capacity in production and manufacturing sectors, which I
think is a shoo-in for China.
Yeah.
So these are much bigger games.
And I understand Trump sees this as America
first.
It's not popular.
I don't think it's popular at all.
But it may actually turn out really good.
It may, unfortunately.
So I've got a learning curve here because
I don't really pay attention to the national
news.
I focus on local things, you know, state
and local.
And so you're going to have to give
me a show or two to catch up
with you on all this.
I'm only giving you four.
John's going to be knocking at the door.
I know.
Get up to speed quick, Mimi.
I'm working.
I'm working on it.
Go ahead.
No, go ahead.
Go ahead, Kara.
Go ahead, Kara, please.
Hey, you know, the first thing John said
to me, he said, what voice is Mimi
using?
Where did that voice come from?
He says this is a different voice from
your Mimi voice.
And I would say that people love it.
Please keep doing it.
Like, Mimi sounds like a smoke show.
Yeah.
And she's a model.
Oh, yeah.
But John is convinced you're putting on a
voice.
No, it's just my mic voice.
I mean, a mic voice.
It's just a mic voice.
John doesn't know everything about me.
Okay.
All right.
There will be a test.
All right.
Speaking of tests, I got this wonderful clip
that the clip collector found for me from
Reason TV.
It's a quiz about war.
Do you are you familiar with war and
what war is?
Maybe.
Well, I thought so, too, until I heard
this clip.
Welcome back to Is It War?
World War One.
War.
Correct.
World War Two.
War.
Correct.
The Vietnam War.
War.
Oh, I'm sorry, Carl.
That was a congressionally authorized counteroffensive.
Don't worry.
We get right back on track with the
Korean War.
War.
No, that was police action.
No, they had tanks and stuff.
Well, the police have tanks now, don't they,
Carl?
Okay.
The first and second Iraq war.
War.
They identify as military action.
It's a bit like pronouns, except we kill
people.
All right.
How about Libya?
War.
I'm sorry.
That was kinetic action, not a war.
Venezuela.
Well, it was an act of war, I
think.
No, I'm sorry.
That was a law enforcement operation, not a
war.
Iran.
It's a war.
We're doing war things.
No, not war things.
Preemptive retaliatory de-escalation action.
No, that's not a thing.
All right, judges.
Okay.
How about the war on terrorism?
War.
No, it was a coalition-led conditional operation.
How about Afghanistan?
Afghanistan was the war on terror.
No, I'm sorry.
That was a pre-authorized defense stabilization initiative.
Okay.
Can somebody tell me the rules here?
War on poverty, Carl.
Well, poverty, that's not even a thing.
I'm sorry.
I hate to do this to you.
It was a trick question.
We don't have poverty in the United States.
The Dow went up to 50,000.
We couldn't even get that high.
Amazing.
Don't even worry about the Epstein files.
Straight up.
I love it.
George Carlin would be proud.
Yes, he would.
And yeah, World War II was the last
war we had.
Yes, absolutely.
Did you know, George Carlin, when you were
doing your comedy shows?
Did you ever meet him?
I didn't.
No, but I did get to see his
shows about 19 times.
So I was a big fan.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
Really miss him.
They killed him early.
Unfair.
Yeah.
You know, there's something to be said about
living a healthy lifestyle for all your life,
not just the last few years.
This is true.
That's why I'm starting now.
John has been a wake-up call for
me.
Make sure I live a healthy lifestyle.
So this week, I was actually really amused
by the Jesse Jackson Jr. warning at the
funeral.
Tina told me about it, but I didn't
see it.
I didn't hear it.
I have the clip of what he said.
Do not bring your politics out of respect
to Reverend Jesse Jackson and the life that
he lived to these homegoing services.
Come respectful and come to say thank you.
But these homegoing services are welcome to all
Democrat, Republican, liberal, and conservative, right wing, left
wing, because his life is broad enough to
cover the full spectrum of what it means
to be an American.
I didn't see any of the speeches.
Did they adhere to his warning?
Oh, not at all.
Not at all.
And actually, I have two different reactions from
two.
One's a Facebook guy.
The other guy's a Substack guy.
And they're very funny.
One of them is Brian Maxwell, Real Politics,
and he gives a reaction to this.
And they literally turned this funeral after the
son requested for it to remain respectful and
honoring his dad.
The Democrats turned it into a political rally.
Yeah, doesn't surprise me.
And then Jeffrey Mead was the other reaction
that I was just amused by.
And he does Substack.
For starters, I'm glad none of them are
in office.
I forgot how nice it was to not
have to hear Joe Biden and Kamala Harris.
But aside from that, they couldn't even just
go pay their respects without talking about Trump
and Republicans.
They used his funeral as a political soapbox.
And I mean, I've seen both sides do
it before.
But the thing that I found interesting is
his son specifically asked not to do this.
Yeah.
How about the Republicans?
Any Republicans doing anything?
No, they weren't.
I just think they weren't.
They didn't speak.
And I mean, if you if you watch
the Brian Maxwell, he kind of goes into
a real deep thing about how much Jesse
Jackson hated Obama, which was it's really kind
of fascinating.
But the entire thing here is that it's
like this this constant deluge from the from
one side of the aisle is I'm finding
it to be really hard to watch the
news because it just makes me kind of
itch.
You know, like, why are we doing this?
Why is it?
Why are we constantly?
I mean, what's the joke if if Trump
found a cure to cancer, everyone would Trump
derangements?
People would say, give me cancer.
I'd rather have cancer.
Yes.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Look at all the hospitals that are suffering
because of what he's done.
But the fact is, that is America.
Our system has always been, as far as
I can remember, has always been this maybe
for a little while during Reagan.
It was different.
And everyone's like, yes, it's great.
And it's going to be because, you know,
we had we had a movie star and
movies.
It was perfect.
It couldn't be any better.
The rest of the world hated us for
that because I was living in Holland at
the time, hated us.
But this is our system.
Look at our social media.
It's always yes, no, right, left, blue, red.
That's what television is.
That's what movies are.
It's politicians.
Everything we do in America is right down
the middle.
You do that.
It's binary.
We have a binary culture right now.
Wait, when I OK, I lived in Iran
as a kid and it wasn't against our
president.
People were against us because we were such
arrogant, you know, jerks.
I mean, one of my favorite stories was,
you know, my mother would would revert to
high school Spanish and speak louder.
Most people would just speak louder English.
And, you know, one of my my memory
is this one woman, Mrs. Britt, who went
into a little little shop that we went
to.
We shopped in a group because the company
sent us on little excursions together so we
would never split up.
And she goes to this poor little shop
clerk and she's asking for noodles and he
doesn't she doesn't know the the Farsi word
for noodles and he doesn't know the English
word noodles.
So she's screaming at him at the top
of her lungs, noodles, noodles, noodles.
And then, you know, she goes, you know,
there's stupid Iranian.
Why can't they learn English?
And, you know, we were we created our
own bad feelings in the world because Americans
were both ignorant and and rude.
I didn't hear that that was anything to
do with our president.
And, you know, television changed what we what
we focus are.
OK, I'll agree with you on that.
In 72, I moved to Holland and for
three years straight, all I heard was on
the street, you crazy American, crazy American.
They hated Americans, number one, for the Vietnam
War, even though they were they were not
involved.
But I guess they just saw it as
wrong and arguably correct.
The second was a lot of technology companies
like Texas Instruments were setting up shop all
over Europe.
You know, this was this was quite an
influx of of Americans.
And we we the people were hated.
But we weren't arrogant.
We weren't horrible people.
They just didn't like us.
Just period.
They didn't you know, whatever socialist Marxist thing.
But yet they all wanted they all wanted
Nike's or Nike's, as they called them in
Europe.
They all wanted Coca-Cola.
They all wanted doughnuts.
Everybody wanted doughnuts.
They all wanted aerobics.
They all want to look like Jane Fonda.
It's a very strange thing.
So I can't speak for Iran, obviously, but
I can definitely speak for Europe, hated us.
And I think unfortunately, some of that fun,
wacky arrogance is gone.
And I was talking to Tina, I was
like, you know, it feels like we used
to be proud of our of our nuttiness.
We used to be, you know, President Trump
is one of the funniest presidents we've had.
And and I still think he's funny.
And I like it when he makes jokes.
But that is hated by so many right
now that you know, the globalist mindset has
definitely set in and social media has pitted
us against each other, even in so called
camps.
So you know, just like this show, there
are people who are leaving the won't listen
to no agenda because we're not denouncing the
crazy president.
It's, it's sad to see.
See, I grew up in a time when
it was you were American first.
And and you know, we had neighbors, we
lived in a in a blue collar community
for a very blue collar.
And we moved to Reno.
And I know my my parents politics were
different from other people's.
But it wasn't something you ever talked about.
I mean, what was the old?
The old saying is you don't talk about
politics or religion at any social event, which
I which I still adhere to, because it's
nobody's business what I do.
I mean, it's like, you know, I don't
talk about you know, who I sleep with
and or who I you know, who I
worship, or hold on, you better be sleeping
with just john.
Is there something you want to talk about?
You want to share with the group here?
Is this something we don't know?
Oh, maybe you'll have to read my memoirs.
But they came out but this became a
thing it became and I lived in in
Hollywood for I couldn't even make it a
year.
If and it's everywhere where there's blue.
If you don't and we had it in
Austin.
I mean, I had to leave Austin because
if you didn't show if you didn't virtue
signal that you were on the right team,
you were immediately considered to be on the
wrong team.
That's where it came from.
And that is the socialist Marxist globalist takeover
that has been force fed through media that
you don't watch.
Well, no, it's force fed through a lot
of other ways to I see it locally
in many ways.
I did discover something interesting this week, though.
You know, I read a lot of weird
things.
And it turns out that, you know, our
representatives don't really listen to us very well.
If you email, they ignore it.
If you call, you don't get through.
If you go to a county or city
council meeting, they ignore you.
But there was a letter writing campaign, letters,
real pieces of paper, you know, the stuff
that you don't like you're rustling around, where
people wrote, please do not vote for this
and made it very clear and mailed it.
And it was the first time in about
15 years that I saw that we were
listened to.
And I really think this is kind of
interesting, because since nobody knows how to write
a letter to your congressman or whatever, saying,
I don't want this, not an email, it's
got to be with a stamp on it.
I think that that's the only way that
we can finally start to be heard.
But I'm an optimist.
What now was this regarding the income, the
state income tax?
Oh, no, that passed.
I was gonna say, where's the letter writing
there?
Huh?
That didn't work out.
Well, there weren't letter writing.
It was just lots and lots of people
on online surveys and things.
And the state wants to get that in.
So it goes to the Supreme Court.
And since Inslee appointed 250 or more, 250
judges by making other ones step down, we
elect our judges, but he was appointing him.
He's kind of, everything's kind of slanted right
now.
It's going to take us a while to
get that straightened out.
Who's this us you're talking about?
People keep electing this guy.
These people are no good.
Inslee, didn't he show his colors during COVID?
Wasn't that enough for people to say no?
We're a mail-in state.
Ah, a scam.
Okay, got it.
I mean, I've, I've, I have all the
voter records for the last two elections because
since I was...
You had, do you have them in your
large language model?
Have you put them into your chat GPT?
No, it's just a spreadsheet, but I've gone
through them.
And the thing that I've discovered is that
there are people registered because you can, in
Washington state, you can register to vote.
It doesn't have to be a permanent address.
It can be any address.
So we've got people who are registered at
the library.
We have people who are registered in the
car outside, you know, Jesse Webster Park.
We have people who, many people who are
registered at our local homeless shelter.
We have people who are registered at all
of the rest homes, including the memory care
homes.
And when you look at those numbers, the
number of people who are registered there far
exceed the number that live there.
Yeah, of course.
So, so, you know, it's in the most
recent election, we had a very close election
of one, one person, two people that there
were 25 votes apart.
And then over the next 10 days with
the recounts and the new ballots coming in,
the, the person who is losing one by
325 votes.
So, so this is clearly the thing.
I mean, you know, I found out in
California that my mother voted for Obama, which
is shocking since she'd been dead since 2001.
Wow.
Mom, way to go.
What's wrong with you, mom?
You voted wrong.
Oh, I'm sorry.
You voted dead.
That's no good.
So, and she also donated to Obama's campaign.
Of course, of course.
So, and I was getting robo calls because
I still have her number is my cell
number.
And I would be getting, you know, yeah,
you voted last time, you know, I did.
And, you know, up here, you know, I
still get even though Jay hasn't lived here
for a while, she still gets a ballot
here.
And I have been unable to get her
off our local voter rolls.
So, yeah, exactly.
So I, you know, I, and the other
thing I found out about voting in Washington
state is that, you know, that we put
everything into a special sleeve, a special envelope,
we sign the outside of the envelope, the
envelope, either you put it in a ballot
box in one of three locations, or you
mail it.
And the procedure is as soon as the
ballots come in, once that signature is verified,
I don't know how they do that.
The, the envelopes are instantly destroyed.
And then, oh, so there's no record.
There's no record.
Not at all.
And after the, you've accepted that, okay, yeah,
I lost whatever.
So it's 10 days after the election, usually
they destroy all the ballots.
Yeah.
Which is illegal.
It's illegal.
I think in most states, isn't it?
Most well, illegal all depends on how good
your lawyer is.
Not just the law.
Well, there, we don't have, we supposedly have
open public meetings act up here, but it's
all been neutered.
Everything's been neutered.
You know, you and John are like the
most interesting people to me, because you live
in this horrible, horrible, horribly administered state, as
does John.
And both of you.
It was a great state when I moved
here.
It was a lovely state when I moved
here.
I just watched it.
But time to leave, girl.
It's like time to get out.
And you and John both need to go
like to North Carolina or something.
Go somewhere else.
Enjoy, enjoy your, your twilight, enjoy your twilight
years with some peace.
Well, but you have to understand in my
twenties, I was a citizen lobbyist in California,
and I worked to get consumer protection laws
passed.
And I did, I was able to, I
think, make a positive influence.
And then of course, life got busy and
I did other things.
And when I've later went back to go
through all the old, you know, the laws,
and I found everything had been neutered on
riders on other bills.
So everything I worked for completely went away
because, you know, I did, I didn't make
it my lifetime career.
I am the, I'm Don Quixote.
I really think that I can.
I got you.
I got you, windmill.
I can get you.
No problem.
Wow.
Well, that's very American spirit of you.
I appreciate that.
I took the easy way out.
I just came to Texas.
It's pretty good here.
Let me switch topics because the next big
thing that we all have to be incredibly
worried about is AI, artificial intelligence, which to
me is just as fake as artificial flavoring.
I've spent the last few days while you
were doing clips starting Sunday, one of our
producers sent me an NVIDIA card and a
computer.
And I didn't quite understand his story until,
you know, I really, cause he very lengthy,
very precise and set up instructions.
And I was kind of getting it all
together for my, to run my own AI
system at home.
And the reason why he gave it up
is because he's giving up on the entire
sector.
He's like, you know, he's going to go
learn how to play an instrument.
He says, I think that there'll be a
time when people want to hear real musicians
again.
He's completely checking out because he's seen nothing,
but how bad it really is.
And as I dove into this and I've
already done a lot of quote unquote, vibe
coding with success.
I mean, there's, it's definitely has helped me
get some projects done that I wanted to
get not, you know, not huge products that
can go to go to any, into any
commercial venture, but things that I needed, some
small things that are workflow related, very helpful
for that $20 a month from, you know,
Google or Claude definitely helped me write some
Python scripts that I needed.
But I also discovered the concept of guardrails.
And whenever you hear this term guardrails, that's
the magic term in AI, because these things
are shit.
I'm just going to say it.
They're shit.
And guardrails means with every prompt that you
send invisible to you are going to be
sent 50 to a hundred, maybe hundreds of
rules, which are the guardrails that say, don't
ever do this.
Don't ever do that.
Always do this.
All of these things, because these large language
models have zero intelligence.
They are just guessing what you're saying and
what needs to come back or based upon
what you said, what you typed, what action
has to be taken, what tool needs to
be called.
And it's very hit or miss.
It can be perfect for days.
And then the next day, all of a
sudden it's not perfect.
So they don't have, they have no memory.
Well, no, they have what's called a context
window.
And Gemini has now a million tokens.
It's all about tokens.
How many tokens?
You can also write things to memory that
it stores in files.
And it will look at that to recall
things, which is also funny because I'll just
be, I'll be doing something in Gemini, which
has also coded something for Godcaster.
And it'll all of a sudden say, well,
this would be perfect for your Godcaster station.
Like what do you, so it's pulling things
from it.
It's stupid.
There is no intelligence, zero.
But the guardrails give that illusion.
It's still a big magic trick.
Can it code Python?
Yeah, I think everyone agrees it can code
and it can code some other things.
But what is the code really doing?
Is anyone really looking at it anymore?
Andrew Yang, who I don't, is he a
computer guy?
The name sounds familiar.
Yeah, he ran for office, the state of
New York.
He ran for president.
And he's famous for universal basic income.
We're going to have to have this.
So he goes to the big artificial intelligence
conference out in California, I think.
And he comes back to CNBC and, oh
man, it's over.
Forget about it.
This is happening.
It's the best thing ever.
It's amazing.
And this guy, like AI, is full of
shit.
I just came from an AI conference out
West and holy cow, they said to me
that what we're going to see in the
next six months outstrips what we've seen in
the last 10 years, because the rate of
change is on a hockey stick.
The rate of, notice the words, the rate
of change.
I'm not quite sure what that means, but
sounds exciting.
10 years, because the rate of change is
on a hockey stick and heading up.
And I got to say, I'm pretty up
to date on this stuff.
And it blew my mind with some of
the stuff I was seeing.
In terms of what, what did you see?
Well, there was one company that is selling
autonomous coding for enterprises to big businesses and
their revenue is up a hundred fold in
the last 12 months.
Their revenue was up a hundred fold.
That doesn't mean they're making money, but their
revenue was up a hundred fold.
So if that continues, it's going to eat
a lot of the tech budgets from major
corporates that used to go to humans.
And so you're seeing the employment of recent
computer science graduates fall off a cliff from
a lot of programs.
If you rewind, what, four years ago, what
would we tell young people for a secure
career, learn to code?
And now the opposite of that is true.
So it was more than eight years ago.
No, it was during Obama.
I think that's when learn to code came
up, not four years ago.
And, and I'm actually kind of thinking now,
stay the course.
If you learn, if you've learned to code,
stay the course.
It may not be a bad skill to
have considering where I think all of this
is going.
I think it's, you know, it would be
really great if we could train monkeys to
wash the dishes, which is what I see
AI as.
It doesn't mean that you don't watch them
like a hawk and make sure they aren't
just licking the plates and putting them away.
That's, that's a very good analogy.
Yes.
AI is like watching monkeys doing the dishes,
but they lick the plates and put them
away.
Precisely right.
Precisely right.
So I wouldn't trust them.
I don't, I think that, you know, there's,
there's a, nonsense hype.
Oh, it's the greatest thing.
I've heard this as long as I've been
around computers.
It used to be expert systems.
Oh, they're expert systems and they're going to
do everything you want.
You know?
Oh, you won't need, I mean, I've heard
this over and over and over again.
I okay.
You know, I love that.
I love the AI video stuff.
I get nothing but joy watching some of
those.
Sure.
Surprise, surprise.
A company that makes video cards makes funny
videos.
This is not foreign to me.
I'm actually playing these clips in the hopes
that my, my buddy, the oil baron hears
them because we have a little text group
with a buddy of mine, three guys.
One guy sells technology.
He's in the, in the pipeline, he sells
technology to companies, mainly to call centers.
And that's a great business because you, you
make the sale and then you get another
company to do the implementation.
And for as long as that customer is
paying, you know, the Microsoft license per employee,
my, my friend gets a piece of it.
It's a great business.
And so he's been selling AI solutions to
call centers, which I can see the appeal
of that, but I'm already myself feeling like,
wow, I'd rather buy it from that company
because I know that when I call that
company, a human being from one of the
50 States answers the phone.
And I feel again, you might want to
stay the course on that.
And just, you know, at a certain point,
the AI is not going to be reliable
enough.
And so he got really excited.
The oil baron got really excited because one
of his engineers in the company came to
him and said, look, we have a $2
million software budget on these two particular accounting
packages that are specifically for the oil sector.
And of course, they're sick of paying inflated
prices and licenses, et cetera.
But this engineer says, we're going to save
25%, $500,000 a year by implementing anthropics
AI.
And that's just the start boss.
And I'm thinking, oh Lord, no, please, please.
You know, and I sent him the study
from Stanford that shows that progressively these large
language models are getting worse in things like
math, you know, things that might have to
do with accounting.
So I'm praying that he hears this and
uses some caution.
Let's continue with Yang.
Who's just over the moon.
So where are you on jobs long-term?
Look, Dario Amadei, the CEO of Anthropic laid
it out very clearly.
And he's been doing so repeatedly saying we're
going to automate away up to 50%
of entry-level white-collar jobs in the
next several years.
And I believe him.
The easiest people to fire are the people
you haven't hired yet, which again is why
you see the hiring of recent college graduates
heading down and the underemployment rate over 50%.
The unemployment rate among college graduates is now
the same or higher than non-college graduates
for the first time in history.
How do we fix that?
I mean, what's you're a guy with big
ideas.
Universal basic income was one of yours.
All right.
Are you ready for the fix?
What possibly, how possibly could we fix if
no one's hiring mid-level white-collar jobs?
And for sure, with technological innovation, things change.
We don't have typewriter pools anymore.
There's all kinds of things that change, but
typically the productivity gives people more jobs and
different things to do.
But what fix do you think that the
UBI guy is so enamored by from the
CEO of Anthropic?
Can you even imagine how we're going to
fix this problem?
Not at all.
You'll be astounded.
How do we fix this entire issue?
Check it out.
Check it out.
You tend to tax things that you want
to discourage than you want less of.
And we're going to be in a position
where we want to shore up labor in
every quarter, in every organization and environment.
We should actually try to stop taxing labor.
Tax the agents instead?
Yes, exactly, Becky.
And by the way, Dario Amede in the
second half of his statement, he said, we're
going to automate away the white-collar jobs
and you should tax us.
And since when does the CEO of a
major company raise his hand and say, hey,
tax me and mine?
Because he sees the writing on the wall
and he knows that there's this massive backlash
coming their way.
Okay.
So the CEO of a non-profitable company
is saying you should tax us.
We're going to be so dangerous.
Come on.
Well, non-profits are the biggest.
I mean, he's not profitable.
He's not a non-profit.
They just can't turn to profit.
Oh, not profitable.
No, none of these companies, except for Nvidia,
the only ones, they're the ones selling the
boards.
They're wildly profitable.
Nobody else is.
So, oh, tax me.
No.
And according to Andrew Yang, who has seen
the light, we're going to have riots.
This is a little bit of the argument
made around, frankly, retail sales in the internet
age, if you recall.
The argument I would make, Andrew, is that
escape velocity has been achieved.
Oh, everybody, hold on a second.
Escape velocity.
Oh, there's a show title.
Escape velocity has been achieved.
The argument I would make, Andrew, is that
escape velocity has been achieved.
I mean, these models are now going to
be able to improve on their own.
Like, we did it.
We made it.
We did it.
In my view, the biggest danger is this
backlash that Dario is concerned about.
And the backlash is going to get more
and more pronounced as people wake up and
have their kids coming back from college and
living in the basement.
And the implicit social contract of the American
way is being fractured.
There is zero chance that this transition is
not going to be rough for millions of
people.
They're always rough, but then we get through
it and, you know, buggy whips, and then
you're making carburetors.
But this time, I just don't see it.
Rough with a capital R and an exclamation
point and a giant underline.
I mean, some numbers, but people know some
of this.
There are still over 2 million Americans who
work at call centers right now, and we
know AI is going to decimate that job.
The big one, and Jamie Dimon referenced this
just the other day, if you get to
truck driving, then all bets are off, because
this is the number one job in 28
states.
You're talking about millions of middle-aged men,
for the most part, 10 to 15%
of whom are military veterans.
A lot of them are gun owners.
Yeah.
So if you get to that occupation, then
you're going to see, in my opinion, riots
in the streets.
Yeah, that's right.
They're probably Republican too.
Yeah, probably.
Riots in the streets.
Yeah, no.
Okay.
You know, actually, I worked in a typing
pool.
That doesn't surprise me.
Did they make you wear a mini skirt
like on Mad Men?
Yeah, well, that's the style.
You know, the biggest thing I saw when
word processors, you know, quote, unquote, word processors
came to be, was that the entire market
for whiteout, the little jars of paint was
wiped out in carbon paper.
Tippex.
Wasn't that called Tippex?
Was that the brand name?
Was it whiteout?
Was that it?
It was.
Invented by Davy Jones' mom, I think.
Yes.
From the monkeys.
I don't know.
I don't know if I'd call it invented.
She figured out how to put paint in
a little bottle.
Hey, podcasting.
I mean, what did I really do?
But, you know, it's like, you know, AI,
what I'm afraid it's going to do is
they're going to, okay, let's go back.
Every city in the country has no bid
contracts where they just, they buy some software
and the software started out.
Okay.
The software, of course, keeps your data.
It doesn't allow the city to have any
other software hooked in.
And then every year that it goes up
and it goes up and it goes up
and it goes up.
So the sales pitch is great.
Oh yeah, we've got AI and it'll be
30% less or 20% less.
You know, that's a great sales pitch.
Is it going to work any better?
I doubt it.
What I'm afraid of is that we're going
to have right now, we have, we don't
have enough communications officers at 911 locally.
So they, they farmed it out.
So we, we hire contractors and that, yes,
there is an AI routing system that is
just the most frustrating thing in the world.
It does not work.
I've heard from other people that it's just,
it's the same AI thing where they just
don't understand what you're saying.
I worked in customer service for years over
the phone.
I was a call center.
We took lost and stolen card reports from
people who'd lost their credit cards.
They'd lost master charge cards.
And there's no way AI can have enough
understanding to understand what people say.
I mean, I had people call in and
say, I'd go, can you give me a
driver's license number?
Because we had to have ways to identify
that they were the real people.
And also if someone used their card, we
could, we could identify that this was a
fraud person, a fraud account.
And I had people go, well, hold on.
And they'd come back and they'd read me
their car license plate number.
And, you know, it's like people are, you
know, it's herding cats.
And I, and I've had some AI sales
systems call me and it's really fun to
just screw with them and just, you know,
grind up as much data as you can,
you know.
Oh, you rebel, you, you're a rebel.
What I'm afraid of is it's going to
go into air traffic control, that they're going
to have AI tools for that.
Yeah, not on, not on my watch.
It's not going to that.
I don't see that happening.
Well, but there are already a lot of,
a lot of air traffic control centers are
contracted out.
They aren't all run by the FAA.
Yeah.
No.
Okay.
You know, and they only have, they only
have one guy on, oh, this already exists.
I think the AI I know a lot
of air traffic controllers.
We are a big hit with the ATC.
This show is a big hit.
Yeah, but not all, but not all of,
especially the smaller airports have the contractors.
There's none.
There's none.
It's just, just the open frequency.
Yeah.
I'm going to push back on that and
we will have our ATC people let us
know what is happening.
I'm skeptical that that's going to happen anytime
soon.
Well, everyone's talking about moderate modernizing the system.
Yeah, sure.
They've been talking about that since Obama.
And the one thing AI can't do is
it doesn't have gut instinct.
Humans are the best pattern recognition devices ever
created.
And, and we get feelings about things like,
you know, when I'm going through a lot
of data, I can say, oh, there's a
mistake.
You can't, you can't make a device have
that kind of knowledge.
You are preaching to the choir.
I'm in complete agreement.
However, the answer to this is always not
yet, but it's coming soon.
Don't worry.
We're just in the first quarter.
It's all coming.
It's if I could only get a few
more megawatts of power, it's coming.
How long will it take Andrew Yang?
How far do you think this is out
before it hits?
Well, so I might've said a certain timeframe,
Andrew, after this AI conference, it's in the
next 12 months, the whole industry right now
is bracing for impact.
And they, they see it more clearly.
I mean, one of the things my friends
in Silicon Valley say is like, they're, you
know, this K-shaped economy that you all
talked about, like, like there's a kind of
K-shaped reaction to the AI curve where
some of them are not sleeping and just
sitting there and becoming super powered on these
tools and seeing what they can do.
And then the other people are moving to
the woods.
Literally, that's the reaction from the people closest
to this.
Okay.
So I, I had to go look at
this conference and I didn't have enough hours
in the day to watch every single interview,
every single person speak.
But this is, first of all, the whole
industry is a circle jerk.
It's NVIDIA is funding everybody.
They're, they're putting the money in.
And then those companies like OpenAI, ChatGPT, they
buy more NVIDIA cards and then ChatGPT invests
in other, the whole, the whole conference is
about companies that are, that are just doing
amazing things with AI and they're all startups
and there's no money.
Then there's no revenue or there's revenue, but
there's no profit at all.
Just go look at the API pricing of
any of these things.
I mean, you, you can rack up 50
bucks in an hour if you're not careful,
if you're using the application programming interface, that's
the real cost that they're passing on to
startups and other people who want to do
something commercial with the large language models.
All this 20 bucks a month is just
to get you interested.
Right.
And so, I'm sorry.
Well, the different companies are going around to
little towns all across America, seeing how they
can build a data center there, take all
the water and take all the power, essentially.
Well, yeah, it's not, not even little towns,
towns like Virginia, towns like, you know, in
Indiana.
I mean, this is not even small towns.
So.
It's, it's, it's this entire thing is a
scam, but it's not a scam that's unlike
microcomputers.
When they first came out, people said they
do all these things.
They still don't do what I want to
do.
You know, I mean, they do, I, I've
adjusted to the tool.
The tool has never adjusted to me.
So, you know, yeah, exactly.
And that, and so Sam Altman sits down,
Sam Altman, I had to cut out a
lot of white space on this guy because
it's so difficult when I'm such a visionary,
I, you know, well, and so right off
the bat, the guy moderating this fireside chat
is a board member.
Hello again.
If I keep doing this, I understand there's
a vacancy at 60 minutes.
Maybe I can, if this investing thing doesn't
work out, maybe I can do that.
Another full disclosure, Sam is a friend.
I'm also on the board of open AI.
So, um, I promise you, I will not
only ask him softball questions.
I will channel my inner breadbearer and, uh,
and, uh, and it's a gooper.
So Sam, let me start with what I
think is the question that is on everybody's
mind.
Oh, what is the question that is on
everybody's mind?
Mind reader.
What do you think?
What is the, what is the big question
that is on everybody's mind?
Uh, is the bar, is the bar, uh,
no host.
So Sam, let me start with what I
think is the question that is on everybody's
mind.
Okay.
Which is where are we today in the
world of AI?
Where are we?
I think at some point in the last
few months, we really have crossed a threshold
into major economic utility of these models.
It may have happened a little bit earlier,
but there was such an overhang before we
figured out how to use these.
And we had to not only continue to
make the models get smarter, but figure out
sort of the plumbing to make them easy
to use where we're, we're now in a
world where the models are astounding people with
the work they can do.
Yeah.
Videos on X.
And I think this has been most noticeable
in coding, but it's also happening in science.
It's happening in many fields of knowledge work,
sort of with disorienting speed where people are
saying like, man, these things that I thought
were still years away are happening now.
Notice he gives no examples.
It's just things and stuff.
And it's amazing and astounding.
And I have my job shifted from doing,
uh, you know, direct technical worker, uh, you
know, legal work to managing a team of
agents doing this work.
This is going to go much further.
Uh, I think we are at a very
steep part of the curve and right now,
maybe you can trust, say, a AI software
engineer to do a multi-hour task.
Very soon.
It'll be a multi-day task and then
a multi-week task, but you can't trust
it past a couple of weeks.
Okay.
After that, I think the paradigm will shift
again and it'll feel like these AI systems
are just connected to your life, to your
company, whatever proactively thinking, working all the time,
uh, and having full context on whatever they
need to know and just sort of doing
stuff like you would trust a senior employee
to do.
Oh man.
He's, he's going to the trust thing already.
It's like, oh, you can just trust them.
It's going to be fine.
Now, what, so this all startups, it's all
about startups.
And here's Altman talking about what the startups
really want.
And do you think that, um, companies have
a real, have a real understanding of how
these systems can help them and reimagine how
they do their businesses?
Some do, some don't.
Uh, certainly the new generation of startups thinks
differently than any generation of startups before.
It used to be that when we would
talk to startups, they would talk about how
many employees they needed.
Uh, now they generally don't want to hire
a lot.
They think that'll slow them down.
And they're all focused on how much compute
they can get.
You know, can I reserve this much capacity?
Can I do a cloud deal for that?
Can I do a cog deal?
Oh, what is that cost of goods?
How much compute can you give me, Sam?
I need a cog deal.
You know, can I reserve this much capacity?
Can I do a cloud deal for that?
Uh, can I get this many tokens?
And I think that is, that is a
mental shift that bigger companies are going through
more slowly, but some are starting to do
that.
Uh, one place I think you can see
this happening is engineering orgs and product orgs
talking about their doubling, tripling what they're planning
to ship this year.
And that has not happened before.
Yeah.
Unfortunately, the companies that do, I don't know,
oil accounting software, they don't seem to be
able to promise they're going to triple their
output of software.
Isn't that interesting?
Only, only Anthropic can deliver this.
You know, this sounds an awful lot like
the Jetsons with cogs.
Cogs.
Yes.
Now, now you go ahead.
So this is what always strikes me.
It's like you can have a whole bunch
of people who are college educated.
I'm not college educated by the way.
And John laments that all the time.
Me neither.
Right.
I just jumped into the world and flailed.
Um, what they're not doing is they're, none
of these things are looking at the most
mundane tasks.
Everybody's trying to do something spectacular.
You know, we do have way too much
data out there.
I mean, I can't read all of the
legislative bills that come through my state, much
less all the States or the United States.
That's the kind of mundane thing I'd like.
I just like to have a good quick
summary of how many States are doing this
and that.
So I can see better trends.
Well, it can actually, I think the large
language models are reasonably good at condensing a
document.
I, I think that's, that's, that's kind of
here.
So, so we need, but that's not a
trillion dollar product that's helping Mimi, you know?
Exactly.
Well, it's helping not just Mimi, but every,
everybody who's interested in this across the country,
maybe 50 of us, um, everything that, what
they're trying to do is they're trying to
swing for the fences and make a big
home run and make a big deal because
these kids don't have enough experience in the
world and it's all ego driven.
And all I'm hearing is sales pitch.
And I know that the big thing that
always happened when I worked in any industry,
the salesmen sold oversold what the engineers could
actually deliver.
I'd like to hear from the engineers here.
I'd like to hear that from the people
who are actually working on the products, rolling
their eyes when they hear this vaporware that
everyone's coming up with.
Well, the big thing, and this is, this
is kind of the, the, the nucleus of
the, of these four clips, I have two
more, is AGI.
This is the thing that we were promised,
I think five years ago, uh, artificial general
intelligence.
Then we kind of made a, that term
shifted to AGI was artificial generative intelligence when
it was only really making videos and songs.
And now AGI is back.
And, and so our shill board member here
is going to ask this very important question.
How soon until we get to AGI and,
and what would you think AGI, what is
your understanding of this acronym AGI?
Um, it's, you know, it's corporate Silicon Valley
speak.
It does.
Come on.
Tell me what you think.
General artificial general intelligence.
What will that really be?
I can't find general intelligence anywhere.
Uh, for the most part.
I mean, it's like, I don't know.
Um, I have no idea and it just
makes me itch.
Okay.
Well, I'm glad it makes you itch.
Let's listen to the question and Sam's answer.
And, uh, you'd be quite vocal in saying
that, um, artificial general intelligence will come sooner
rather than later.
I want to share your views on how
close we are and how soon it will
come.
At this point, I think the definition of
AGI really matters.
This is what we call moving the goalposts.
Yes.
So we need, Oh no, we need to
change the definition of what AGI is again.
At this point, I think the definition of
AGI really matters.
Some people would say we already got there.
Some people say it's very close.
Some people say we're kind of, you know,
it's maybe still a year away, but in
any case, that word has ceased to have
much meaning.
Uh, there are maybe two thresholds that we
could talk about that are interesting.
Number one, when is there going to be
more of the world's cognitive capacity inside of
data centers than outside of them?
And that to me feels like maybe it
could happen.
Huge error bars.
I could be totally wrong, but maybe, Oh,
Mimi, huge error bars.
What are error bars?
What is that?
I don't know.
It sounds like a good place to go
drink.
Exactly.
To me feels like maybe it could happen.
Huge error bars.
I could be totally wrong, but maybe that
could happen by like late 2028.
And that's an extraordinary shift in the world.
The other one is when can a CEO
of a major company, a president of a
major country, a Nobel prize winning scientist, when
can they not do their job without making
heavy use of AI?
Okay.
So no answer.
Shifting the goalposts.
I really don't know.
Sooner than later.
Now my final clip.
And he even, this is the business model,
the business model of AI from Sam Altman,
the man who is credited with pioneering the
industry.
And he even says in this clip that
the business model has failed in history.
This is not AI, but this is astounding
when I hear this.
Open AI does a lot of things that
look weird.
We spend a ton of money on infrastructure
in advance of revenue.
We do new business models like ads that
seem like, maybe not the most profitable thing
we could do.
A long list of other things, but we
have this fundamental belief in abundance of intelligence.
And that one of the most important things
in the future is that we make intelligence,
you know, to borrow an old phrase from
the energy industry that didn't quite work too
cheap to meter.
We want to flood the world with intelligence.
We want people to just use it.
So he's literally saying they want it to
be like the energy sector.
And as the energy sector said, it'll be
too cheap to meter.
And he's saying that that failed.
And for some reason, this is direct energy.
He's burning energy and somehow this is going
to work.
It's astounding.
This answer is that we make intelligence, you
know, to borrow an old phrase from the
energy industry that didn't quite work too cheap
to meter.
We want to flood the world with intelligence.
We want people to just use it for
everything.
We want this to just be something that
the future generation doesn't think about.
They expect everywhere.
And everybody has access to like geniuses as
many as they need in any area that
they need.
And this principle, which is one of our
kind of like top guiding principles, does lead
to a lot of behavior that would look
less natural for other companies.
And one of those is we really want
to get out of this world that we
have been in, that we still think we're
on a stretch to stay on without changing
what we do, of always being capacity constrained.
Fundamentally, our business, and I think the business
of every other model provider, is going to
look like selling tokens.
You know, they may come from bigger or
smaller models, which makes them more or less
expensive.
They may use more or less reasoning, which
also makes them more or less expensive.
They may be running all the time in
the background trying to help you out.
They may run only when you need them
if you want to pay less.
We see a future where intelligence is a
utility, like electricity or water, and people buy
it from us on a meter and use
it for whatever they want to use it
for.
Tokens!
We're selling tokens for the bumper cars!
Tokens!
Okay, my experience, I know how to look
things up.
I know how to dig stuff out of
the web.
I know how to, you know, find things.
And I have to teach other people, both
my age and way younger, how to Google
search, how to other search, how to find,
you know, information from cities and counties and
states and the federal government.
Everything's there.
You just have to know where to look
and you have to have the patience and
the time.
I mean, I have read every single city
council meeting minutes going back to when this
town was started.
It's not exciting, but it gives me a
lot of intelligence and it gives me a
lot of history and it gives me a
lot of, I can see how things have
happened.
I'm one in a billion.
Most people don't even know how to look
up.
I mean, if it's not on TikTok or
if it's not on Facebook, that's it.
So how is this product that he's trying
to describe going to create intelligence in people
who've lost their ability to have creativity and
curiosity?
Well, how come you were not invited to
this conference to provide a counterpoint?
I'm so surprised.
You're on the west coast.
You could have popped right over.
Yeah, and I'd be wondering the whole time
about the error bar, if it was host
or no host.
Let's thank some people, Mimi, who have once
again supported us very kindly to help with
the Medicare donut hole.
And we will need to eventually have a
number because we just, I'm extremely curious what
this is going to cost.
The bills haven't started showing up yet.
You know, we'll be getting bills for the
next, you know, years, years, years.
So the no agenda show for now in
its 18th year with a podcaster down has
been running on the value for value model.
And that means you can support us with
time, talent or with treasure.
And it's a very simple concept.
You know, you don't have to buy tokens.
You know, you're not going to get much
selling any tokens here.
No, all you do is you listen to
the show.
And if you think you got some value
out of it, then you say, you know,
I'll send something back to those guys.
It is that simple.
And the time and talent portion is done
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We have three end of show mixes, which
are all original productions.
No AI slop.
Very proud to be able to say that
it's not always the case.
So good to see people coming back.
And it feels better.
It just feels better.
Can't MVP.
I'm sorry, man.
But you know, when I get real end
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artwork is another way that people can support
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It's still very valid for this.
And it's still cheap.
You're not spending a lot of tokens on
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And we thank Nestworks, who I'm pretty sure
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He emailed me.
He still does a lot of Photoshop work,
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So he uses it as a tool as
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And it paid off the art that we
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And hose water.
Yes.
Actually, I forgot to look at the trolls.
We have 1275 trolls.
Yeah, the audience is dwindling Mimi, but they're
still hanging in there.
They're still hanging in there, hanging in there.
Like, John's not there.
This was this was a sexy nurse with
a get well heart for John and I'm
here to see John.
I thought it was an appropriate piece.
I liked it.
It was good.
Now you and I didn't choose together.
Yeah.
Because I really want to just let you
off the hook.
I'm amazed you it was like three and
a half hours we did on the last
show with a lot of donations to read,
but it was great.
It was still quite long.
So when John comes back, then we'll get
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But thank you, Nestworks.
We appreciate it.
Well done, sir.
And you can go to no agenda art
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The sexy nurses, I think we may have
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So see if we can come up with
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I shed a tear when I heard the
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May this donation from oh, it's Canadian dollars.
Oh, so it's probably a thousand Canadian.
Probably.
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Dames and nightings will be done when John
is back so that nobody feels shortchanged.
No offense, Mimi, but, you know, we are
the official holders of the sword.
I don't I don't have a sword.
Hence why I'm called the wife.
Yes.
No sword for you.
The next is Highland Craigs from Colorado Springs,
Colorado.
Four hundred eighty five dollars.
And it says thank you both.
We're praying for J.C.D. Love the
Highland Craigs.
Very nice.
Came in Mike Hutchins in Ennersberg Falls, Vermont.
Four hundred.
And they say here's a donation of four
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This puts us over the threshold of knighthood,
which I will say for a future donation.
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And the next one is Jacob Schultz.
Why am I not seeing an amount?
There we go.
I made a donation of three hundred and
thirty three dollars and eighty eight cents to
secure an executive producer credit for the show
for my mom's birthday on three eleven twenty
twenty six.
Please add her to the birthday list.
We both listen to the show and enjoy
talking about it.
Jingles, if possible, health, karma and Scott Simon,
if it wasn't already played, which it may
never be, if I'm on the show.
Thanks and give our best wishes to John
and his recovery.
Jacob Schultz.
Suffer and succotash.
I'm Scott Simon.
You've got karma.
No, I got to play some Scott Simon.
Peter Fantino is in Jasper, Tennessee.
Three hundred and thirty three dollars and eighty
eight cents.
No notes.
So a double up karma for him.
You've got karma.
OK, Sandra Walker from Rosewell, Roswell, Georgia.
Three hundred and thirty three and eighty eight
cents.
Dear Adam and John and Mimi.
John, we miss you.
Get well soon.
This donation brings me to Dame Hood Accounting
Below.
Please call me Dame CC Mom.
I would like kombucha and grass fed steak
from case and see cattle at the roundtable
calling all homeschool families in North Georgia or
families that are fed up with government indoctrination
camps.
Have you heard about classical conversations?
They offer a federated, decentralized, Christ centered approach
to homeschooling.
It's based on the classic education model where
we teach our kids the skills to become
lifelong learners and redeem our own education in
the process.
Let me interrupt you for a second.
You homeschooled your kids, didn't you?
One of them.
Which one?
Jay?
Yeah.
She turned out just fine.
She needs to get a raise, Tina said.
Just throw it.
I already did.
I already did.
Are you familiar with the classical education model?
Do you know what that is?
What that means?
Uh, well, this is actually fairly new compared
to what we did, but we we did
base it on reading, writing arithmetic.
You know, homeschooling was very rewarding for me.
I finally learned a lot of things I
never knew before.
Bingo.
There you go.
It's good for kids and for mom.
Right.
So Sandra goes on and she says we
read real books, including the classics, and we
teach handwriting.
Nice.
There are classical, classical conversations, aka a CC
communities all over the world.
The families in each community give their own
special flair.
My family has been part of the CC
community in Roswell, Georgia for over 10 years.
Not all the families at the Roswell community
listen to no agenda, but the topics you
cover come up on a regular, uh, regularly
in class.
We also have a few crackpots in our
group.
Our particular community does not allow screens in
the classroom.
Most of our students, even teens don't have
phones and get this.
We have sock hops plus other, other screen
free social gatherings.
CC of Roswell is enrolling now for the
next school year.
We're praying hard for more girls to join
our middle and high school levels.
Oh, I'll bet you are.
If you are near Roswell, Georgia, come check
us out.
We meet once a week on Thursdays.
Email is Sandra homemaker at gmail.com or
for more info, go to www classic conversation,
classical conversations.
So it's classical conversations.com to find a
community near you.
Oh, lovely.
I like that.
So what do you think it's hard?
It's hard to get girls in the, into
these, uh, no, but what happens when you
start getting, I mean, when they're little, it
doesn't matter so much, but as you start
getting older kids, the boys, you know, are,
are drawn to where the girls are.
So having events with girls, big deal, sock
hops are better when girls are involved.
No kidding.
Yeah.
Yeah, absolutely.
Baronet surplus is in food and dial in
the Netherlands.
He says in the morning, Mimi, John and
Adam, I'm at the end now.
I've been kicked to the end.
I was truly shocked to hear that heart
attacks are going on around.
Oh, I was really shocked.
I tell you to hear that heart attacks
are going on around here.
Got to read it right.
Well, I hope to soon hear John moaned
about his experience.
I must admit, Mimi confirms that behind a
great man, there truly is a gate, a
great woman.
I mean, wow.
This donation finally makes me a Baron.
So I request a title change from Baronet
surplus to Baron Illuminati.
Thank you for your courage and warm regards
from the lost hell hole called the Netherlands.
Corey Bay's in it.
Maybe Pittsfield, Massachusetts, $333 and 33 cents.
Um, which, and then my mother's will do
the other one.
The next 333 and 33 is Aldi approved
Nick in Moochin, which D George Deutschland, Deutschland.
Yes.
I think it's not all.
All D is the, is where you get
your groceries.
Oh, okay.
Yes.
Adi is in, in, uh, in Moonshine.
I'll give them both a double up karma.
You've got karma.
Yale, Reinstein in Victoria Harbor, Ontario, Canada, three
3333 long time boner first time donor.
I mean, you've been D douche listener for
years on and off.
John was the great uncle.
I didn't have prayers for John.
Okay.
Um, I'm not sure what to do with
this one.
We'll try it.
Sir.
Wirt from New York, $330 and 33 cents.
See attached note.
I don't know what that means.
Oh, you don't have the notes.
I don't have that note.
Okay.
Hold on.
I have the notes.
I have the notes here.
Um, uh, to John, God bless you and
get well soon.
May the karma of the show all come
to you.
Uh, Wirt and Julian.
I'm not quite sure.
Uh, sir.
Dirt is his official night name.
Thank you very much.
Lane Lomero in Gilbert, Arizona, three 33, no
note, uh, karma for you.
You've got karma.
And we have Craig in LaGrange, North Carolina,
$319.
Uh, Craig in North Carolina.
This is $319 donation represents my prediction of
19 March for when John will make his
first appearance on the show after his recovery.
Uh, Kelsey bet.
Kelsey bet.
There we go.
Kelsey bet.
Okay.
If you would like to use this prediction
idea as a donation strategy to help you
with you, with you and John, you're welcome
to thanks for all you do.
And I wish him a speedy recovery, prayer,
karma, please.
Prayers.
Dame Beth is next $288 and 88 cents.
Associate executive producer.
She's from Tucson, Arizona, and she says, nice
job, Mimi.
Counting on you to bust JCD out of
the big house soon.
When is he swinging the big blade again?
I'll be the, or when he is swinging
the big blade again, I'll be the vice
countess of Baja, Arizona.
Until then, thank you for your courage and
jailbreak karma for John from Dame Beth.
You got it.
Karma.
I'm stepping on stuff.
It's okay.
Joe Cameron, Plymouth, Michigan, $250.
I don't.
Okay.
So I know that Joe, uh, he produces,
um, an airline blog called N O N
L R E A, which is airline spelled
backwards.
And it's horrible for me to have to
remember it to go to his website.
Cause the only thing I can only write
it in reverse is difficult.
N L R E A.
And he wishes John a quick recovery.
I know, but Joe, Joe has a lot
of aviation stuff and I'm sure I'll go
to it.
Yeah.
Oh yeah.
He he's got, he's got all that stuff.
Yeah.
If you like captain Steve, you'll love Joe.
You'll love Joe.
I'm sure I will.
Uh, are you doing the next one?
Yeah, sure.
Dame Isabel Pearson, Manchester in the UK, 250,
a donation aimed to celebrate the Dvorak's and
spur JCD to recovery.
Turns out you are both a couple of
treasures.
This is Dame Isabel Pearson, current title, first
female listener of no agenda requesting title upgrade
to Baroness of Gers.
How do you pronounce that?
Southwest France.
Gers.
Uh, where Mimi's too many eggs book is
a cornerstone of our farm to table kitchen
recipes.
Wow.
No, we, we actually have a French version
of the book.
I just haven't gotten it published yet.
Really?
Did you do that with chat GPT?
No, I did it with a translator who
owed me a favor.
Wow.
Big favor, clearly requesting the title upgrade.
Um, if you can ever persuade John to
travel, it would be my pleasure to welcome
you to pure guard dares.
And that would be in, uh, in Gers
bear Baroness Isabel Pearson.
Thank you very much, Baroness.
That's wonderful.
Tyler sink, Benton, Illinois, $236 and 91 cents.
And no note.
So double up karma.
You've got karma.
Now you'll notice maybe the, uh, as we
get lower in the amounts, the longer the
notes get to me, it's an amazing thing.
Yes, it happens.
Colin fan and parts are known to 33
33 in the morning.
I had a proud dad moment after my
first donation.
My five-year-old happened to be listening
to the podcast when my business fan and
fitness was mentioned.
She lit up immediately and said, dad, that's
you for her hearing her dad's name on
a podcast was a big deal.
And honestly, a pretty strong incentive for me
to donate again.
And for all you sandbaggers and douchebags out
there donate for the kids.
But then I heard my beloved podcaster get
called weak wristed and we can't have that.
Oh, this is long, long backstory on that.
Mr. Curry.
It just so happens that grip strength is
one of my many specialties.
My only question is when does day one
begin for you to earn your new nightly
title, sir, Adam breaker of hands.
Yeah, this is Colin.
And I did the intake form.
He's a personal fitness trainer.
And I haven't gotten around to getting started.
He offered me free fitness training.
So Colin, thank you.
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I don't know.
I don't know what Kamala jingles we have.
I can kind of hold on a second.
I got a comma.
If you play the same one twice, no
one will know.
And it'll sound just like there's an interesting
let me see.
How about freedom?
That's all that's a fan favorite freedom.
And what's the other thing you wanted?
He wanted to Oh, foamer.
That's what that's what he means by the
horn thing.
Okay, hold on.
Sorry, just taking a moment here.
Where's my former people?
former There we go.
Finally.
Man, of course, I screwed up the freedom
jingle.
Here we go.
Finally, thank goodness.
All right.
Got it.
Then we have lavender.
I'll do that one to let you read
the next one.
Yes, sure.
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$222 and 72 cents.
And I love their products.
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Zach Metzinger, Southlake, Texas.
So all the rich people live $208 and
88 cents listening to Mimi's analogy between old
world shoemakers lamenting the industrialization of their livelihood
and the rise of vibe coding.
I feel she's missing one important fact.
While industrialization created equivalent or better products cheaply
and faster AI coding tools create 80%
solutions which are a nightmare to understand because
they weren't created by a human mind.
Imagine if the steam powered shoe machine were
instead of being carefully designed by engineers to
mechanically duplicate the fine art of shoemaking.
Just one of millions of Rube Goldberg s
contraptions built by a million monkeys selected only
because it produced something close to the desired
product.
This is why AI slop exists.
There is no intelligence in AI.
In fact, there might be too much intelligence
and too little common sense.
AI simply allows people who shouldn't be designing
systems to create incomprehensible one off products.
Get well soon, john.
Yeah, I think I think we agree with
you on that one.
Absolutely we do.
Elijah Hines receipt of California $208 and 88
cents in the morning john and Adam and
Mimi.
After my sister in law, the weird poet
told me if you're ever going to donate
and not be a douchebag.
Now is the time to do it.
I knew that I could no longer bear
the shame of being a douchebag and had
to donate.
Please read do de douche me and give
john an extra dose of health karma.
Thanks for all you do Elijah.
You've been de douched.
You've got karma.
And coming in with 20888 from Bensonville, Illinois,
moving off his typical date in the amount
with the 8.88. It is Eli the
coffee guy missing john behind the mic this
week and wishing him a speedy recovery.
Happy to say the show was still as
good as ever.
Mimi did a fantastic job sitting in I
love the fresh perspective.
And she has as many good stories as
john Yes, and previous vocation.
I actually have more.
Oh, gloves are off to john.
We love you.
But like I say about my own wife,
sometimes a guy can kick beyond his coverage.
Mimi is a pure class act and our
prayers are with you both.
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Eli the cafe guy.
Yes.
All right.
I can't see the note.
Yeah, I've got this.
I'm sorry.
No, it's okay.
This is from Rita's stick.
It's that stick.
It's I think Ogden Dunes, Indiana.
$200 and 15 cents.
It's a switcheroo.
Hey, john and Adam.
This is Rachel stickage from Ogden Dunes, Indiana
on the shore of Lake Michigan with a
switcheroo donation for my son Tom.
Your show is always a topic of conversation
between us.
John's boomer perspective tips of the day are
wonderful.
Adam, your European knowledge and conspiracy theories really
make this the best podcast in the universe
or of the part of the universe.
He says four more years $200 and 50
cent donation.
Thanks for all your hard work.
Sincerely, Rita stickage and I will make sure
that the switcheroo takes place Rita.
No problem.
So the next two with no notes are
for $200.
One is Radu Maranescu from that's a good
word.
Petesky, Romania.
It looks like Oh, yeah.
We don't have many donors from Romania.
Thank you.
Petesky.
Yes.
Petesky.
Radu.
Thank you.
And then Martin Martinson in Arlington, Texas.
Also $200.
Brian Brian Martinson.
Brian.
Oh, yeah.
What'd I call him?
I call him Ryan.
Oh, I got him Martin Brian.
Sorry.
Sorry.
Karma.
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Sir Dr. Sharky St. Peters, Missouri.
$200.
Dear john, you'd better get well faster because
Mimi is knocking it out of the park
and could become your permanent replacement.
Please eat all the mac and cheese you
possibly can.
It will make you better.
Trust me.
I'm a doctor.
Love and kisses.
Duke, sir.
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eight and seven.
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Thank you for your courage and your support
formula is this.
We go out, we hit people in the
mouth.
Are we doing on time?
Oh, goodness.
I got a little bit of time left.
Somehow it's not that hard to fill the
fill the hours with you.
Mimi, it's kind of working.
I don't know what that is.
It's the work.
Do you have anything else on your list
that you wanted to play here?
Um, well, actually, I this was just something
that made me laugh.
And you know, while watching our our legislature,
our federal government in action.
It's called the amusing Mr. Kennedy.
The amusing Mr. Kennedy, okay.
Isn't it a fact that if President Biden
had discovered life on Mars, when he was
president, he would have immediately sent it money?
I don't believe so.
Oh, you don't?
Okay.
Well, I appreciate your newly found fiscal conservatism.
Yeah, Kennedy is always a funny guy.
He doesn't have to watch like, hours and
hours.
And then it's like, Oh, there's something funny
here.
Oh, well, yes.
Yeah.
Well, welcome to our world.
Yes, exactly.
It takes forever to come up with the
clips and listen to say because I have
to listen to everything.
And I have to, it's you know, this
is not trivial.
And john always makes it sound so easy.
And this is the problem.
We make it look easy.
That's what I always tell him.
You got to grouse more.
So hard doing this clip.
It's killing me.
I just saw on you know, that Michigan
shooter.
Turns out the FBI did a active shooter
drill at that very synagogue just a few
months ago.
Isn't that interesting?
Always got to always got to wonder how
that works.
Let me see.
I, I have a series of clips that
Yeah, we'll just wrap it up with these.
This is from NPR.
And it's about the Department of Homeland Security.
And while NPR is stupid, and you know,
the things that they put in here, it's
all things that we've been warning about for
the entire length of this show.
Wait, no, Department of Homeland Security existed when
the show came into being.
But DHS, by itself, it's just such a
weird, and they're not funded now.
So the airports are starting to clog up
because TSA agents and this is the first
week I believe that they haven't gotten paid.
So you know, and it's all I mean,
I'm all for for getting rid of Department
of Homeland Security.
They already kicked Kristi Noem out, you got
your blood, you fund it again.
But this thing is, everything's underneath it.
And it just feels like a quagmire.
It's got Coast Guard.
It's got TSA.
It's got FEMA.
You know, so the thing's a mess.
Yep.
And what, where were these agencies before DHS?
Where did they, I know Coast Guard bumped
around a lot, but then TSA didn't exist,
I guess, until 9-11, which was also
DHS.
But I mean, what is their job now?
Is it just to protect the homeland like
SS officers?
Or what is your view of what this
is?
Well, wasn't TSA under the Border Patrol originally?
Or was that could they remove?
Yeah, it could be.
Yeah.
I don't know.
It just seems like, let's put them there.
I am not clear about what they're up
to with that.
Meanwhile, don't aren't a lot of TSA guys
now contract workers.
So they're getting paid still?
Oh, this I don't know.
I know FEMA has a lot of a
lot of contracts.
All of this is, in my opinion, a
big money sink.
I mean, TSA by itself is like, okay,
right.
You know, we were really worried about people
hijacking planes.
And I guess we said to be continued
to be worried.
And then we were worried about something that
never happened, which, you know, people had liquid
in their shoes, and they're going to blow
everything up.
And so we'd take our shoes off, we
can't have water bottles and just all of
this security theater.
And now DHS is under duress because of
ice falling under DHS, although ice has been
funded separately, with $70 billion.
So, you know, withholding payment from DHS is
only going to make DHS people angry.
And I think we should look at DHS
in general, but NPR had this interesting, interesting
feature about DHS surveillance.
And some of it is stupid, but there's
some merit to it.
It's it's worth a laugh in a couple
of these clips.
Today on the show, we're going to be
talking about how the Department of Homeland Security
is surveilling people in new ways, because you
both along with NPR's Meg Anderson have been
digging into a bunch of different tools that
DHS is using to track both people who
are in the United States illegally, but also
U.S. citizens.
And I want to start with this example
of this woman in Minneapolis named Emily, who
your story kind of opens with as well.
Kat, tell us about who she is and
what her experience kind of shows.
Yeah.
So Emily's experience was back in late January.
She was out driving around her neighborhood in
Minneapolis patrolling for ice as a constitutional observer.
I want that's what I want a business
card.
What do you do?
I am a constitutional observer.
You mean someone someone who just observes government
under the Constitution, I guess.
Can you blow a whistle?
No, maybe.
All right.
She was out driving around her neighborhood in
Minneapolis patrolling for ice as a constitutional observer.
I'll just say we're only IDing Emily by
her first name because she fears retribution from
the federal government.
She told me she was following an ICE
vehicle at a safe distance into a parking
lot when a masked agent leaned out the
window, took a picture of her and her
license plate, and then rolled down the window
and addressed Emily by name and recited her
home address to her.
Emily told us that it really shook her.
Their message was not subtle, right?
They were in effect saying, we see you,
we can get to you whenever we want
to.
And it did scare me.
Emily says she didn't know.
They didn't say that.
Okay.
In effect, they said that.
So they looked at her license plate, I
guess, address to her.
You know, Emily told us that it really
shook her.
Their message was not subtle, right?
They were in effect saying, we see you,
we can get to you whenever we want
to.
And it did scare me.
Emily says she didn't know how they pulled
up her information so quickly.
And that was one of the things we
were really trying to figure out with this
reporting was, you know, we were collecting dozens
of stories, talking to people, combing through court
documents to really try to understand how is
this surveillance web that DHS is spinning affecting
real people on the ground?
Surveillance web.
Okay.
Surveillance web.
You know, there's also a lot of questions
out there about what kinds of information DHS
and federal agents are collecting on observers like
Emily.
There was a case in Maine, a woman
who was recording another observer who was recording
federal agents on her.
I love this observer.
This is great.
I'm a constitutional observer.
Phone.
Her name's Colleen Fagan.
And she was watching ICE agents.
And as she was watching them with her
phone, they were seemingly recording her face and
her license plate.
And she recorded this video.
Exactly.
Yeah.
That's what we're doing.
Yeah.
Why are you taking my information down?
Because we have a nice little database.
Oh, good.
And now you're considered a domestic terrorist.
We're videotaping you?
All right.
First of all, screw you, DHS guy.
What are you doing?
Oh, we have a nice little database.
You're a domestic terrorist.
That guy is out of line.
So I'm going to give him that.
She's not a domestic terrorist.
No.
But have any of these people ever done
a ride along with their local police department?
Oh, no.
They just can.
All ACAP, baby.
All cops are bastards.
They have no idea what cops do.
Do they know that when they scan their
credit card, their membership card at the grocery
store, that they're in a giant database that
says what they're most likely to buy?
Yeah, but I get points.
I get points for that.
I get points.
I get free goodies.
I get points.
See, the big thing up here right now
are flock cameras.
And flock cameras are like, oh, they grab
the license plate number and they keep a
database.
It's coming up.
So you can hear there, they tell her
that they have a quote, nice little database
and that they are considering her a domestic
terrorist.
I will say that DHS has denied having
a database like this several times since that
video went pretty viral.
Outgoing Secretary Kristi Noem denied it in front
of Congress just last week.
Todd Lyons, who's the acting director for ICE,
has also denied it in front of Congress.
DHS also denied it to us in a
statement that we got from them.
We did ask DHS why agents are taking
pictures of protesters' faces or license plates, and
they did not respond to that question when
we asked them.
So, you know, we don't know if there
is a database like this, despite them denying
it.
You know, it could be that, you know,
these are semantics.
Maybe a contractor has a database.
Maybe it's not technically a database.
These are still things that we don't know.
So this is amazing.
They dove in deep and they figured something
out.
Tell me more about what your reporting found
out, specifically in Emily's case.
I mean, how was the government, do you
have any sense of how the government was
able to get this information on her?
We don't know the specifics.
I mean, you know, we asked ICE and
DHS and they say they won't share those
tactics with the public.
But I mean, it does seem like vehicle
registration information is key.
You know, law enforcement through license plates can
figure out who owns a car and their
address.
Yes, exactly.
That's right.
Your vehicle registration.
And now we get it.
And so at this point, I'm still like,
oh, OK, you're following ICE.
We all know why you're doing it.
You know, and you could be hampering law
enforcement.
It could end up very bad for you.
Will you not learn?
OK, you're a constitutional observer.
That's fine.
That's your right to do that.
But there are some things that people are
very concerned about that have some validity.
But we've seen lots of other examples of
cross-agency data sharing.
And so and actually some of these are
agreements with ICE.
So, for example, there's records from Medicaid that
a federal judge has now approved because it
was challenged in court to be shared with
ICE that include address information.
You know, one technology that ICE agents have
access to is a cell phone app called
Elite.
It's made by Palantir, which is a company
that does a lot in the tech space.
It has a lot of government contracts.
And this app and it was described by
an ICE agent in court testimony as looking
kind of like Google Maps and showing data
points of places where people who could be
deported by ICE live and like the likelihood
that they live at address.
And it pulls from a lot of different
data streams.
And Palantir has acknowledged that some of that
data includes data from other federal agencies.
And we think that that includes those Medicaid
records, for example.
So so this is something that we're now
starting to see a little bit more how
some of these data sharing and consolidation efforts
that are happening on the federal level are
now trickling down to ICE agents in the
field to be able to locate people they
want to deport.
So Palantir is a huge dog whistle for
people, particularly conservatives.
And with definitely with some merit, although I'm
very skeptical about, you know, what it is,
I can tell you the public information about
this Elite phone app, which gets the front
into a database.
Elite stands for Enhanced Leads Identification and Targeting
for Enforcement.
It was created on a 30 million dollar
contract for a 30,000 dollar app.
And it does they do claim it has
the total information approach and it pulls from
the file publicly that we know pulls from
the following data sources, HHS and Medicaid.
And I that that feels bothersome to me.
That they're pulling medical records into into their
system.
What's your feeling about that?
Well, is it medical records or just that
you are?
Is it all based on.
Well, it's supposedly to identify you.
It's supposedly to identify to verify your current
address.
Now, OK, from the stand.
OK, so so let's this is looking at
the bad side of this.
Let's look at the other side of this.
If you are let's say your child is
missing, you know, your kid takes off, you
know, on a cross-country trip and you
lose touch with them.
You know, every bridge toll, every toll road.
You're going too far.
Stay with Medicare before you before you go
into license plate scanners.
We're getting to that.
OK, so OK.
So and you don't know you are you
can be notified based on the fact that
they have identified who your child is through.
You're pulling you're pulling the think of the
children card, Mimi.
I'm that's unacceptable.
That's unacceptable.
I'm not taking that now.
I we are in so many databases.
If you just Google yourself, you'll find.
No kidding.
No kidding.
I'll continue.
So supposedly to verify current address, then they
have commercial data, third party data services, Thomson
Reuters clear, you know, that thing that you
use to get through airport security quickly.
Oh, yeah.
And then they have access to DHS and
USCIS records, passport data, Social Security files and
the license plate reader history.
So, yeah, it's probably 50 of what Oracle
does and the data brokers do to sell
you stuff.
But the concern that citizens have is valid.
But you're about 30 years too late.
Do we have any sense on whether these
tactics are different for people who have crossed
into the United States illegally, who are here
without legal status and who DHS obviously seeks
to deport versus the U.S. citizens that
we've been talking about?
Well, we do know that ICE is using
facial recognition technology and also location data, like
Jude was talking about earlier, to find people
and identify people that it potentially is seeking
to deport.
But, you know, we're all subject to some
level of this surveillance because ultimately, if it's
being used on one of us, it's possibly
being used on all of us.
Right.
But is that legal?
I mean, in terms of like, I can
understand how the government can justify using this
sort of surveillance to track people who it
feels have committed a crime and therefore need
to be deported.
If I have not committed a crime, I
mean, can you use legally this level of
surveillance to figure out what I'm doing?
And, you know, and that is exactly one
of the big questions here.
You know, but just to give a concrete
example, you know, one tool that's really exploded
and not just for DHS are automatic license
plate readers, which are, you know, all over
freeways and entries and exits into cities at
this point and a great tool for law
enforcement to be able to track down cars
that are stolen or that might have committed
a crime.
But it's picking up license plate information on
everyone and it can allow law enforcement, including
DHS, which controls some of these license plate
readers and has access to others to really
locate most cars that it wants to find
because they'll be picked up in this camera
network.
So that's an example where, you know, critics
of this technology say this is mass surveillance
and that law enforcement shouldn't just have this
unfettered access to this level of data.
There's your license plate readers.
OK.
License plate readers are used in Home Depot
and Lowe's and Walmart.
Doesn't make it right.
But the reason they're doing it is because
that because so many states have made it
so you can't arrest someone for shoplifting unless
it's over a thousand dollars.
Then what they do is they record the
license plates.
And if you are if you keep showing
up with that license plate and you go
in and you rip off stores, they put
it all together as one complaint so they
can actually go after you for a thousand
dollars worth of theft.
So they're doing it as a as a
harm reduction for their for their bottom line
to to have some recourse with these people
who are just especially these rings.
There's big rings of shoplifters that are out
there who steal thousands and thousands of dollars
every day.
You know, it's probably more than thousands, hundreds
of thousands.
And, you know, that's why you go into
Home Depot now and you have to call
over a clerk to open up the cage
so you can get, you know, a drill.
You know, it's it's kind of like, yeah,
you need to be identified.
But we allow ourselves to.
How many people have the toll passes for
for highways?
Not me, not me.
Well, you don't have bridges there.
We have toll roads and and they just
send me a bill in the mail where
they they get my license plate, they snap
it.
But I don't indiscriminately drive around with an
RFID device.
I'm not nuts.
And how do they identify where you live
when you go across a bridge?
They just Google it.
They just Google it.
Everybody can Google where I live.
It's impossible to hide that stuff.
Well, no, it's it's based on your your
vehicle registration, your license plate.
So, I mean, we are all connected in
so many ways to this.
It's like, OK, you can look at the
downside.
Oh, gosh.
You know, they're keeping track of us.
But at the other side, you know.
What's new?
Well, here in Texas, um, when someone shoplifts,
we shoot you.
So we don't.
Oh, yeah, that's lovely.
That's so much better.
Tough luck.
Yeah.
Say I didn't go to California or Washington
state and go shoplift there.
Yeah.
And we fight against cameras, traffic cameras, license
plate readers.
They've tried to put them in Fredericksburg.
Nope, nope, nope.
That's outlawed.
Austin, they they crumble.
So in Austin, they're everywhere.
But a lot of places in Texas just
know I'm not going to have it.
We're not going to let the government have
that kind of control.
I'm against it.
I really am.
And not just the flock cameras, but all
these stupid ring cameras and everything.
This report, this I hope this gives people
some food for thought.
You probably think security cameras make places safer,
but governments are hacking them to plan missile
strikes.
Researchers recently found hackers linked to Iran breaking
into security cameras across the Middle East.
Iran.
But why cameras?
Because once you hack one, well, you've got
eyes on the ground.
You can watch buildings, track traffic patterns, see
when people arrive or leave.
It's basically free intelligence.
Hacking these cameras isn't that hard.
Attackers have been exploiting flaws in popular brands
like Kikvision and Dahua, vulnerabilities that have been
known for years.
The real problem is something experts call digital
neglect.
People install digital devices and then forget about
them.
No updates, default passwords, no security settings.
Meanwhile, there are websites that scan the Internet
and list vulnerable devices.
And during conflicts from the Middle East to
the Russia-Ukraine war, civilian cameras have quietly
become intelligence tools.
Some analysts even say when they see spikes
in hacked cameras in one area, it can
be a warning that something is about to
happen there.
I think this is perfect counterbalance.
We are our own worst enemy, putting cameras
everywhere.
And if you think just Iran is looking
at him now.
No, but it does give me information on
when cougars are in my area and walking
through my yard.
Hey, there was a time when I'd want
to know when cougars were walking through my
yard.
I'm just told by donors to no agenda.
Imagine all the people who could do that.
Oh, yeah.
All right.
Let me see.
We're going to keep the the knights and
dames in abeyance until John returns.
We do have some people to thank who
continue to support the show and giving John
a reason to return back to the living.
So I'm going to read them now.
And it kicks off as often is with
Dame Rita from Sparks, Nevada.
One hundred and eighty eight dollars and eighty
eight cents.
And she says she's glad we're all in
the right places as this unfolded.
She wishes John an abundance of health, karma,
the best of recovery and strength to your
family at your side.
Adam, thank you.
And thank you for the best podcast in
the universe.
Julian Toones in Oakland, California.
One, two, three, dot four, five.
We got a strike donation.
Bitcoin one twenty one seventy nine.
Not sure who it's from, but he or
she says this bloke will outlive even the
Galapagos tortoises and such.
Jeff Hutchinson Topsham in Maine.
Oh, row of sticks.
One eleven dot eleven.
Stefan Trockels in Seuss in Deutschland.
One oh eight eighty eight.
Tim Landreth, Syracuse, Nebraska.
One oh eight thirty three.
Christopher Ebert in Spartanburg, South Carolina.
One oh five thirty five.
Brian from Port Angeles.
Long time douchebag feed.
I was time to donate to support John.
Get well, John.
Get well soon.
John, keep up the great work.
Me, me and Adam for excellent I.T.
support.
Check out all bright networks dot com.
One oh five thirty five.
For you, you've been de-douched.
Sir Sark seven one hundred dollars, eighty eight
cents.
Mimi's killing it, John.
Better get well soon.
He is the knight of Center Neptune from
Wildwood, Wildwood, Missouri.
Sir Dean of KDH in Moyoc, North Carolina.
One hundred dollars.
One hundred from Andrew Scalrod in Murrieta, California.
Same from Christopher Baker in Marquette, Michigan.
Stephen G.
Bottoms in Reno, Nevada.
One hundred.
Thomas Mullen, Whitehouse Station, New Jersey.
One hundred.
Michael Masato, Brooklyn, New York.
One hundred.
Kellen Price, a prince in Marlborough Township, New
Jersey.
One hundred dollars.
Now the eighty eight eighty eights.
This is the lucky number.
Eric Torsen in Itra, Arna in Norway.
Hank Eldrick in Mamer, Lithuania.
Wow.
Look at this.
And then Lucas Ziva in Bayerbrunn in Deutschland.
This is like the EU checking in.
Nice to see you guys.
Grebulon, Netanya, Illinois.
Johan van Junker in Halfweg, Haarlemmermeer.
It's in the formatic in Maple Grove, Minnesota.
Donald Rolfe in Parks in South Dakota.
Charles Obranovich in Plymouth, Minnesota.
Zachary Jude, Minneapolis, Minnesota.
Ben Boney in Athens, Tennessee.
William Parker, Lebanon, Pennsylvania.
Hugh Allison, York, South Carolina.
John Witten, Kodiak, Alaska.
Steve Jackson, Southlake, Texas.
Did I miss one?
No.
There we go.
Justin Halcom in Twin Falls, Idaho.
Beth Bradshaw in Ladsen, South Carolina.
Tower Comics, Edmonton, Alberta, Canada.
Dame Linda, Mistress of Spooky Garden, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania.
Morgan Mary in Spicewood, Texas.
Lucas Hoon in Sandown, New Hampshire.
Robert Mussard in Riverside, California.
Mansoor Raad in Alpharetta, Georgia.
Michael Bowling in Goleta, California.
Ray Jacobson, Ashland, Virginia.
David Clark, Spartanburg, South Carolina.
Brian P.
Bellen, Asbury, New Jersey.
Loni Salas in Gold Hill, Oregon.
John Fitzpatrick, Heber Springs, Arkansas, Arizona.
Arkansas, Arkansas.
What?
A-R, is that?
Arkansas.
Arkansas, yes.
Arkansas.
Ken Appraisals, Inc., Jackson, Georgia.
Alvaro Munoz Ayukwenz, Wiesbeck in Cambridge.
Oh, this is in the UK.
Mary Schwarzer in Dublin, Virginia.
Christopher Stabile in Forestelle, Missouri.
Christopher O'Brien, Brighton, Massachusetts.
Zach Nanas in, rhymes with, in Los Angeles,
California.
Sean Brown, Harriman, Utah.
Robert Rida in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania.
David Ott, Wake Forest, North Carolina.
Ernie Parton in Westchester, Ohio.
Steve Siccarelli in Pittsburgh, New York.
Sophia Pandalia in San Jose, California.
Jason Binder in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania.
Alexey Volinsky in New Windsor, New York.
John D.
Carney in Alpharetta, Georgia.
Patrick Ryan in Lakewood, Colorado.
Smiley Upstate in, uh.
Hona, Hona.
Yeah.
Honanapupu.
Yeah, something like that.
I think we got it.
Honanahapupu.
Hawaii.
Hawaii.
Someone's laughing at us in Hawaii.
Okay.
Eric Deakin, Lynchburg, Virginia.
Matthew Wilbur, Ruth, Ruther Glenn, Virginia.
Simon Xiong in Snellville, Georgia.
John Walters, Denham Springs, Louisiana.
Robert Stokes in Covington, Texas.
Uh, is it Covington or Covington?
Covington, probably.
Probably Covington.
Yes.
Ryan Wickenhagen in Townsend, Georgia.
Troy Allman in Greenville, South Carolina.
Peter Goodall in St. Louis, Missouri.
Justin Baker in Norma, Oklahoma.
Mark Cable in Roberts Bridge, East Sussex.
That's in the UK.
Michael Pizzuti in Lewis Center, Ohio.
Jenny L.
Allen in Lahey, Utah.
Peter Chong, Lakewood, Washington.
Thomas Starkweather.
Hey, Tom.
Stafford, Virginia.
How you doing, Tom Starkweather?
Justin Pagano in Philadelphia.
Daniel Vazicek in Great Falls, Montana.
Max Max, Cape Town in South Africa.
Very nice.
Western Cape Town.
Timothy Morris, Shoreham-by-Sea in West Sussex
in Great Britain.
And coming in from Oxfordshire, it's James Scholar
in Bichester in the UK.
Lots of UKs here.
Robert Champion in Birmingham.
And Ben Tinsley in Newtown Abbey.
And Matt Woodman in Wareham in Dorset.
Wow, a lot of UK people.
Thank you.
Sir Caricus of Cold Snatch, Avada, Colorado.
And he says, uh, I have to say,
Mrs. Buzzkill sounds kind of hot.
Maybe we don't need you after all.
Kidding.
Get back.
We need your Buzzkill to balance out Adam's
crackpot.
Get well, get strong, get back to deconstructing
the media.
Sharon Puchniak in St. Paul, Minnesota.
Ed Warner in Sedro-Wooley, Washington.
Ray Jacobson, Ashland, Virginia.
Eric Hammond in Holtz, Michigan.
Trent Bell in Upland, California.
Kevin Webb, Carlton, Texas.
Oliver Reich in Greenbrae, California.
Walter Kurtz in Fort Mill, South Carolina.
Stephen Neumann in St. Louis, Missouri.
Gillian Martini in Tucson, Arizona.
Paul Sayre in Westbury-Wiltshire.
That's in the UK.
Mullen James in Franklin, Wisconsin.
Yeah, Wisconsin.
Pink Daisy Crafter in Trimble, Missouri.
Drew Veneman in Arlington Heights, Illinois.
Scott Fuller in Cumming, Georgia.
Reagan Quinn, Monroe City, Missouri.
Frank Chiapetta in Carpentersville, Illinois.
Ryan Alba in San Ramon, California.
Thomas Anaya in Georgetown, Texas.
Chris Rivera, San Jose, California.
Sabida Pet, Sabida, Sabida Pet, or Pete in
Metairie, Louisiana.
James McClemore in Fort Collins, Colorado.
Jason Battinger in Florence, Kentucky.
Al Stressler, Wilmette, Illinois.
Kent Zeser in McKinney, Texas.
Christopher Burkhardt in Oceanside, California.
Russell Coury in St. Cloud, Florida.
Sherry Wermager in Arlington Heights, Illinois.
Devin Rotter, Handsville, Washington.
Andrew Gardner, Sir Andrew Gardner, I think, Leonardtown,
Maryland.
Stephen Smith, Cumberland Gap, Tennessee.
Andy Wyatt, San Antone, Texas.
Ethan Wellman, Crown Point, Indiana.
Nancy Chardavoigne in Centennial, Colorado.
Michael Randall, Jasper, Alberta, Canada.
Kevin McLaughlin, there he is, our Duke of
Luna, Archduke of Luna, Concord, North Carolina, 88
-88.
Spencer Whitney in Warren, New Jersey.
Mike Bateman comes in twice from Bloomington, Minnesota.
J.F. Triathlon Limited, Glasgow.
Oh, Glasgow, there you go.
That's East Dunbartonshire, trying that.
Mansoor Raad in Alpharetta, Georgia.
Coming in again, I think, Margot Lopez, Wyoming,
Michigan.
Joshua Schmidt in Norwood, Young, America.
That's in Minnesota.
Charlotte Worchester, San Francisco, California.
Speedy Recovery, Hendricks, Obie in Dallas, Texas.
Stay blessed, he says.
Lamar H.
Ford in Newport News, Virginia.
Now we have 80 and 88 cents.
Eric Rankin from Cholawada, Florida.
I'm butchering that.
Lydia Terry Dominelli, Rochester, New Hampshire.
Boob donation from Philip Blum, 8008, Sir Fast
Eddie in Alameda.
And he says, how about those magic numbers,
JC?
Remember, we had a conversation about the number
333 at the Pizzeria Violetta meetup in January.
Hmm, yes, a lot of threes in what
happened to him.
And there he is, the Archduke of Luna,
lover of America and boobs, Kevin McLaughlin.
Donation, boob donation, God bless America and boobs.
Nelson Ariza, also a boob donation, Lawrenceville, Georgia.
Triple sevens, Sean Richard from Arnhem in the
Netherlands.
Reagan S.
Turley in Pahrump, Nevada.
Call out Cha as a douchebag.
First douchebagging.
A Bitcoin donation from who is unknown, 6635.
Eric Rankin, Cholawada, Florida.
That's a tough one for me, 6502.
That's John's favorite chip donation.
Steven Schumacher, Shoemaker, I think it is, in
Xenia, Ohio, 6480.
Teresa Dempster Andrews in Camarillo, California, 6161.
She does have a note because I believe
she becomes a dame today.
So let me check the notes here.
Adam and John, while I finally am making
it to damehood with this donation, I would
like to be dame Teresa Martine and have
barbecue, baby back ribs, and margaritas at the
round table.
I want you to know how much I
appreciate you two and when, and your perspectives,
especially when I have held a different opinion.
It is very helpful to critical thinking process
to have one's viewpoints challenged with evidence.
God bless you both.
Soon to be dame Teresa and dame Teresa,
you will, it's Camarillo, thank you, Camarillo, California.
You will be damed when John returns.
So we make it nice and official.
Onward to Steve Wells with a small boob,
6006.
First time donation through PayPal.
You've been de-douched.
He's from Valley Springs, California.
Eli, Eli Dib in France.
I've been listening to your show for years
now during my weekends, while doing DIY or
gardening.
I live in France with a Lebanese origin.
I need to hear John grousing about the
new Middle East war.
Come back soon, John.
Eli Dib, Eli Dib, I think it is.
Nice to have you aboard, Eli, from France.
Not a lot of people in France donating
for sure.
Stephen King, Charlotte, North Carolina, 5885.
Timothy Tillman, Mechanicsville, Virginia, 5683.
Christopher Dechter, 5678.
We see you.
Peter Chong, Lakewood, Washington, double nickels on the
dime.
Daniel Wolnich in Zurich, wow, in Switzerland, 55.
Thank you.
Michael DiRenzo, $55.
This donation is for the beautiful woman who
turned me on to No Agenda, Ms. Heather
Bloom, Fairfield, Pennsylvania.
Please de-douche in the morning.
You've been de-douched.
Glenn Spangler in Roseville, 5432.
We see what you did.
Lee Harwood, Parts Unknown, 5272.
Nancy Murphy, San Bruno, California, 5244.
Saga and Ronnie from Sweden, from the place
we still can't pronounce because it comes through
in weird characters on the spreadsheet, in Sweden.
Thank you very much.
Bad Idea Supply, $50.50. My favorite company.
I love their stuff.
Absolutely.
I use it weekly.
Viscount Sir, Economic Hitman from Tomball, Texas, $50
.01. Rene Knigge in Utrecht, $50.00. These
are 50s for you.
Roderick Brown, Mermaid.
Pennsylvania, maybe?
No, PE.
No, Canada.
Prince Edward Island.
Prince Edward Island, yes.
Then coming in from Ornskog, Adrian Sandström-Oya
in Sweden.
Thank you very much.
Mike Tolley in Memphis, Tennessee.
Sally O'Brien, Silverdale in New Zealand, Auckland.
Robert Smiley in Holland, PA.
Graham McDonald, Vaucluse, New South Wales.
Vaucluse, that's in Australia.
John Berryhill in Laredo, Tennessee.
Laredo, Tennessee.
There's Stephen Shoemake, Xenia, Ohio.
Tim Delvecchio, Blandon, Pennsylvania.
David Asari in West Hollywood, California.
Gary Mao in Woodland Hills, California.
Ashley Welch, Parts Unknown, but $50.00. Prayers
for John's speedy recovery.
Jill Presnell in Wichita, Kansas.
Dame Patricia Worthington, Miami, Florida.
Brandon Savoie, Port Orchard, Washington.
Been a long time.
Catherine Richardson in Baltimore, Maryland.
Sir Chad GPT, West Jordan, Utah.
The Coopers in Greenville, South Carolina.
The things you do for donations.
Well, it worked.
Okay.
And that's it.
That is all of our $50.00 donors
mainly for John's speedy recovery.
It is so incredibly appreciated that you all
are thinking of him that way.
Thank you all so much.
Remember us at noagendadonations.com.
That's where you can always go to support
the show.
Noagendadonations.com.
Well, with all those donations, funny enough, only
one birthday on the list.
This is very, very odd.
It almost feels like a clerical error.
So Jacob Schultz wishes his mom a very
happy birthday.
She celebrated yesterday.
So we say happy birthday, Jacob Schultz's mom,
from everybody here at the best podcast in
the universe.
Adam, thank you so much for reading all
those.
I always feel like I should be doing
it as much, but you're great.
I'm sorry.
I didn't hear the last thing you said.
What was that?
Oh, you're great.
You're great.
I loved it.
Artificial, and we're happy to do those.
Baroness Surplus becomes Baron Illuminati today.
Dame Beth becomes Dame Beth Viscountess of Baja,
Arizona.
And Dame Isabel Pearson becomes Baroness of Coeurs.
Please send me a pronunciation correction on that.
We know it's in somewhere in France.
And we've been invited to the garden, apparently.
We did miss a note from Sean O
'Connell on 1849.
He says, I noticed Mimi didn't read my
notes, so I don't know if she saw
it or not.
It was in the PayPal comment field.
Things do happen.
I forgive her for that.
I'm sure she was nervous for her first
donation segment.
Mimi's not nervous about anything.
Anyway, I wish John a speedy recovery and
mentioned that I believe I've completed my donations
for knighthood.
I was going to include the accounting, but
PayPal puts a 200 character limit on the
note field.
Yes, that's why we encourage it.
Here it is in case you need it.
When John is back in the saddle soon,
I hope, please knight me, Sir Hatch of
the Western Wastes.
As always, thanks for everything you and John
do.
It's at times like this that we're all
reminded of the value you provide.
Regards from Sean O'Connell and indeed, Sean,
we will be knighting you upon John's return
and the dames as well.
Yeah, no meetup reports today, but we do
have a couple of meetups coming up.
Now, these are the no agenda meetups.
You can go to the meetup and have
a prayer circle for John.
There's a thought that no one has done
yet in a meetup and let us record
it and send a report to us.
Saturday, you can do that at the Treasure
Valley Boise Meetup, three o'clock at the
Old State Saloon, the East Texas Mid-Monthly
Meetup, a Pi Day edition.
Oh, yes, it's 314.
That's right.
Is that on Saturday?
Okay, well, I guess we can't do that.
No one donates for Pi Day anyway.
That'll be at Fred Lobster International Speedway in
Gladwater, Texas.
Dirty Jersey Whore hosting it for you on
Sunday on the 15th, the Indy NA.
I do believe it's time for a meetup,
the March edition.
And of course, Sir Mark and Dame Maria
of the Greenwood at Blind Owl Brewery.
They always send in a fabulous meetup report.
On the way in this month, Rockaway, New
Jersey on the 18th, Coeur d'Alene, Idaho
and Charlotte, North Carolina, the 19th, Los Angeles,
California, Franklin, Tennessee, both on the 21st, Vancouver,
British Columbia on the 22nd, Coleyville, Texas on
the 28th, Fort Wayne, Indiana on the 28th,
Beachwood, Victoria, Australia on the 28th as well.
And a reminder coming up in April on
the 11th, Albany, California.
Maybe John will get out for the house
for that.
Not sure.
And of course, the Fredericksburg, Texas meetup, which
I will be joining with Tina the Keeper
and Matt Long and Gail are hosting that.
It's going to be a hootenanny guaranteed.
No Agenda Meetups.
Go to noagendameetups.com.
You can find all of them listed.
You can look out into the future.
You can search by date.
There's all kinds of different ways you can
participate.
It's free.
This is just a producer organized thing, but
they happen all over the world.
And every single time people go to one,
you are making connections that give you protection.
These people that you meet at the No
Agenda Meetups will be your first responders in
any emergency.
If you can't find one near you, start
one yourself.
No Agenda Meetups, they're easy and always a
party.
And look at this.
As we go to look for our end
of show ISOs, it turns out Mimi has
some end of show ISOs to share with
us.
And not a one is AI.
I'm going to start.
They're all live.
I'll do mine first and then we can
listen to yours.
Here's my first one.
It's on purpose.
It's on purpose.
It's on purpose.
I'm going to the well for this.
Yes.
All right.
Here's the second one.
God bless you for having the courage.
Yeah, I thought it was pretty good.
And here's the it's it's fabulous.
It's amazing.
I'm going to the well.
All right.
I'm going to do yours now.
Mine are better.
Mine are much better.
I'm sure they are.
Here's number one.
Hey, who is this woman taking my place
on the show?
Wow.
His voice doesn't sound any good.
It sounds weak.
He's he's tired.
Yeah.
Let's try this one.
Wow, that was a great show.
All of my balls are killing me.
That's got to be over.
There's one more, though.
Well, I got another sponge bath today.
No, no, no, no, no.
Hands down without my balls are killing me.
That's the one.
That is the one.
Everybody, we can't wait to play that at
the end of the show.
But first, it's time for Mimi's tip of
the day.
All right.
It's kind of an off one, but it's
something that I needed desperately this week.
It's called Pan Oxal PM Overnight Spot Patches.
It's for zits.
It's for zits.
Did they come a little star formation?
No, I have a little round ones because
I like those better.
So it manages blemishes and it speeds up
healing and it reduces scarring.
You can get them on Amazon.
They have twelve thousand positive reviews and four
point five stars.
But so do Haribo gummy bears.
They've got twelve thousand positive reviews.
So I don't know if that means anything.
So it's like sixty ninety nine.
You can get four for eighty counts.
You can get it's the best deal.
You can get 40 count for nine forty
nine.
But the companion that's absolutely necessary if you
get blind zits, which are pimples that before
they form a head and they drive you
like with cystic acne.
You can use peach slices, which are deep
blemish micro dart darts.
It has like B3 in it and salicylic
acid and tea tree oil.
And they're kind of expensive.
They're eight dollars and eighty eight cents for
nine patches, but they absolutely work.
And, you know, it's it's it's something that
I'm sure you haven't had this tip before
because John would have vetoed it.
So I'm getting the one.
It's interesting because when Christina was here for
Christmas, I had a zit, you know, I
don't know.
I'm sixty one.
What's going on here?
And she said, oh, no, you got to
get these patches.
And it's the same concept.
And there was a little star and you
put it on your pimple.
And then and the next day it's gone.
Yeah.
No, they're where were these when I was
a teenager?
Hello.
Hello, everybody.
That's that's the real question.
Where were they when we were kids?
We needed them.
But what is it about?
You know, I'm of the age I should
like I thought acne was something from my
past.
Yeah.
It's like what the heck?
But these things are great.
I thought they were nonsense.
But I had this blind one and it
was driving me crazy because it just wasn't
doing anything.
And I was embarrassed to leave the house.
So I got to go to no agenda
fund dot com tip of the day dot
net to get all the details and all
the tips of the day.
Great advice for you and me.
Just a tip with JC and sometimes at
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Created by Dana Brunetti.
There you go.
Hey, we made it again, Mimi.
And again, we did the donations.
That's what's doing it.
Like, how can the show be so long?
It's shows too long.
It's too long.
It was lovely speaking with you.
I really it is kind of fun.
Even though it's a lot of work.
It's not a bad gig, huh?
beats beats working in the coal mine.
We're writing cookbooks.
Yeah.
That's for the birds, man.
Hey, John's gonna work on his cookbook while
he's sure.
Okay, yeah.
Well, tell him to finish the vinegar book.
That will be that will it'll be in
the cookbook.
Oh, sure.
Okay, beautiful.
And to show mixes coming up from follow
the monkey from MVP and Jeff and Andy.
Great, great song you guys did.
Next on your no agenda stream if you
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app or no agenda stream calm a walk
through the mind by Sir Billy Bones.
So stay tuned for that.
And we will return on Sunday myself and
the lovely miss em right here on your
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And thank you all for supporting the show.
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until Sunday.
Adios, mofos, hui hui, and such.
Bomb them.
We need to kill them.
Bomb them.
Bomb them.
We need to kill them.
Bomb them.
Bomb them.
We need to bomb them.
We need to kill them and bomb them.
There's a need for a rescue mission.
When the world is threatened.
The world needs help.
It calls on America.
And that's the story.
No sweat off my balls.
Yay!
Walk by now today we rejoice in the
revealing God's operation fury for the enemies of
Israel in the near future.
Is what
a stupid question that is to be asked.
That's
progress and security.
But my balls are killing me.