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March 19th • 2h 44m

1852: Jell-No!

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Everybody poops.
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Adam Curry, John C.
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Dvorak.
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It's Thursday, March 19th, 2026.
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This is your award-winning Kipp on Asian
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Media Assassination episode 1852.
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This is no agenda.
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One more for the Kipper.
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And we're broadcasting live from the heart of
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the Texas hill country here in FEMA region
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number 6.
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In the morning everybody, I'm Adam Curry.
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And I'm Mimi Smith Dvorak.
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And on a globe, I'm between the 48th
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and 49th parallel.
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Wow.
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It's crackpot and buzzkill.
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In the morning.
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And it's wet.
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You're wet.
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You're soaking wet.
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We don't even say anything about it.
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It's just another day.
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Yeah, yeah.
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100% humidity.
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Yeah.
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I didn't even know.
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You told me before we started that there
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was a storm in Hawaii that is now
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over your domain.
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Your neck of the woods.
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The start of it, we do get one
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day that that globe in the sky may
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appear on Saturday.
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And then we've got rain forever.
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We have rain that's just coming.
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And it's so slow.
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And it's going to be lots of inches.
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And it's also quite warm.
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So, that means all the snow that we
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had was going to melt.
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So, we'll be flooding too.
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It's great.
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So, what is the actual appeal of living
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in Washington state?
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It's good for your skin.
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Oh, yeah.
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But so is pharaoh.life, you know.
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That stuff is good for your skin too.
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I don't know if you need to live
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in Washington state for it.
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Oh, it's got beautiful trees.
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And, yeah.
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That's it.
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Okay.
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There you go, everybody.
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You've got income tax now.
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You've got libtards running around.
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But you've got nice trees.
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Yeah, nice trees.
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So, not once, but twice this week did
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JCD call me.
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That was quite exciting.
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The first one was, I think, Tuesday.
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He's like, hey, it's Dvorak.
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Like, okay, you know, we have a caller
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ID on these phones.
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In case you didn't know.
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And, yeah, I said, well, okay, yeah, just
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checking in.
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I said, well, are you getting out tomorrow?
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He says, yeah, yeah.
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He says, it was so sweet.
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He says, I'm really sorry.
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He keeps apologizing.
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He said, stop apologizing.
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No, but I'm really sorry.
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You have to do one more show with
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Mimi.
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I'm like, wow, wow.
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Yeah, that would be John.
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Yeah.
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And then yesterday, like, I've got salmon in
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the oven.
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Tina was out helping a friend, so I'm
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cooking dinner.
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And salmon, you kind of keep your eye
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on it.
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And he said, let's test the gear.
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Let's test the gear.
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I guess he was setting up the famed
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Nook at Jay's house.
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And it was so classic, as if nothing
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has changed.
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So he plugs in, he connects to the
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clean feed.
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And I can clearly hear that it's not
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the microphone he's talking into.
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It's like something else is on.
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No, it's not.
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I'm talking right into it.
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Nothing has changed.
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It's the same.
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John, I'm telling you.
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And I can hear myself booming through the
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speakers.
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You got speakers?
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Yeah, Jay bought me some speakers.
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Could you consider headphones for once, just maybe?
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Yeah.
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And he's like, I'll call you back.
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And it turns out there was a webcam
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still plugged in.
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I'm like, told you so.
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Oh, yeah, told me so.
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Oh, yeah.
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Actually, I recorded some of it.
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I recorded some of it.
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Oh, no.
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Yeah, let me play a little bit here.
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Here we go.
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So this is what happens when your wife
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and your work wife get together.
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Mm-hmm.
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Mm-hmm.
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Now, that was from the hospital day that
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he called me, including this one.
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I have to go.
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It's time for my sponge bath.
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So that ended the conversation.
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And then, parents, cover your kids' ears.
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I can't stand one more fucking Jell-O
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cup.
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Pretty good, huh?
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Oh, yeah.
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That's AI.
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We don't need John anymore.
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Could you tell?
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Could you tell it was not John?
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I wasn't listening hard enough.
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I'm a wife.
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I've been a wife for so long, my
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ears turn off.
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Wow, I thought that only happened to husbands.
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That's good.
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That's very good.
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So one question, well, there's a couple of
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things.
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But one question that people really would like
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to know, and you may not want to
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answer this, is Mimi your real name?
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No.
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No, it's not.
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Mm-hmm.
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My parents saddled me with the first name
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is Merrilee Diane.
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I like Merrilee.
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That's a cute name.
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No, it's Merrilee Diane.
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Well, okay.
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I have a middle name as well.
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It's hyphenated.
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I have a middle name.
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Okay.
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And then, because when I was a little
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kid, I could not say it.
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Because, you know what, a kid can spit
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out Merrilee Diane.
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I started calling myself Mimi, and everyone started
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calling me Mimi from then on.
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Huh.
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So you don't like Merrilee?
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It has to be Merrilee Diane, but you
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don't like that at all, obviously.
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My name is Merrilee Diane, like my mother
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was naming for some southern belle, and she
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got me.
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Well, we all saw the pictures.
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Merrilee Diane, mm-hmm.
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My mom had blonde, curly hair, and she
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was just dark brown eyes, and I am
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nothing like my mother.
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Welcome to the stage, Merrilee Diane.
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Put your hands together for Merrilee Diane.
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So for political stuff up here, I decided
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to use Merrilee when I first ran, because
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we already had a city council member.
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His name was Sherry, and we had one
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named Sissy, and I thought that it sounded
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like a bunch of strippers.
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So people have been listening to us for
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the past—what have we done now, four shows?
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Is this the fifth show?
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Is this the fifth?
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I think it's the fifth.
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No, I think it's just four, because we
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missed that first one.
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Well, we kind of did an intro on
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the first one.
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Right.
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And I've loved doing this with you, Mimi.
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I really appreciate you jumping in.
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I'd say 98% of No Agenda Nation
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loves that you jumped in.
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The 2% are always the a-holes,
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so I just fight them on Twitter.
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Those are the ones I like the best.
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They're the worst.
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Like, I couldn't listen.
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There was no deconstruction at all.
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Well, they're right.
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I usually listen two to—yeah.
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I usually listen two to three times in
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an episode.
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I had to turn it off.
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Like, okay, fine.
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You know, a little bit of grace, maybe?
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Just a tad?
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Eh.
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But the best came from Hollywood Bigwig.
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He texted this to me during the Academy
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Awards, so that means he wasn't watching.
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Dana Brunetti.
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He says, I am pretty sure that Mimi
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is indeed a spook.
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And he takes it one step further.
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He says, I don't think anyone's put it
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together that she is the anonymous donor.
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That you are seronimous of Dogpatch and Laura
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Slobovia.
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And that's how she communicates with John when
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she's on assignment.
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She doesn't live in Washington.
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She's just off on assignment.
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Notice there have been no donations from him
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since he's been on the show?
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Okay.
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Whatever.
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Sure.
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I'll take it.
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I thought that was pretty good.
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I thought it was pretty good.
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Our president has been super hilarious the past
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few days.
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This just—I saw this this morning.
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He was sitting with the prime minister of
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Japan.
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Okay.
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Do you know her name?
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I forget what her name is.
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Not at all.
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And so there's a whole bunch of Japanese
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journalists.
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And, you know, it's just Japanese on a
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whole one side of the room.
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Let me see if I can get this
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here.
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Here he goes.
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Of course, no.
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Japan and the U.S. are very good
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friends.
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One question.
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Why didn't you tell U.S. allies in
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Europe and Asia like Japan about the war?
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So he says, why didn't you tell U
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.S. allies like NATO and Europe and Japan
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before you went to war with Iran?
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Well, one thing, you don't want to signal
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too much.
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You know, when we go in, we went
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in very hard.
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And we didn't tell anybody about it because
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we wanted surprise.
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Who knows better about surprise than Japan?
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Why didn't you tell me about Pearl Harbor?
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Dude!
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Dude!
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Dude!
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Why didn't you tell me about Pearl Harbor,
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huh?
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Wow.
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Wow, that's great.
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That's good.
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It's good.
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And no sooner had we talked about it
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on Sunday than the president did exactly what
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we thought he would do.
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I'm going to remind everybody what he did
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during the State of the Union to screw
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with the Democrats.
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One of the great things about the State
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of the Union is how it gives Americans
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a chance to see clearly what their representatives
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really believe.
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So tonight, I'm inviting every legislature to join
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with my administration in reaffirming a fundamental principle.
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If you agree with this statement, then stand
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up and show your support.
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The first duty of the American government is
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to protect American citizens, not illegal aliens.
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It was great how the shot pulled out
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right away.
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Yep.
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Isn't that a shame?
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You should be ashamed of yourself not standing
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up.
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You should be ashamed of yourself.
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We talked about this on Sunday, and it
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came true the next day.
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He did exactly the same with NATO.
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He said, hey, you guys going to come
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and stand up and stand next to us?
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And so he was with, gosh, I think
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it was the prime minister of Austria or
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Ireland.
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He was with the Taoiseach of Ireland.
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And he's sitting there in the Oval Office.
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And this didn't get as much coverage as
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I hoped it would have on the mainstream,
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some choice bits, but he really laid it
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down.
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I think NATO's making a very foolish mistake.
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And I've long said that, you know, I
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wonder whether or not NATO would ever be
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there for us.
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So this is a this was a great
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test because we don't need them, but they
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should have been there.
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The other thing is, and I think, you
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know, very important, we didn't have to be
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there for Ukraine.
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You know, Biden chose to spend hundreds of
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billions of dollars on Ukraine.
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And I guess the head of Germany just
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made a statement that, well, they weren't involved
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and they have nothing to do with the
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war.
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But at the same time, they think we
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did a great thing by knocking them out.
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Nobody wants to have nobody wants to have
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Iran or anybody.
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But nobody wants to have Iran with a
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nuclear because these people are crazy.
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They're absolutely crazy and they're vicious, violent.
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I mean, they kill.
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Think of it.
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They kill.
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Now I hear it's about 41000 people they
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put out a notice two days ago.
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Anybody that protests will be immediately shot and
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killed.
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That's pretty tough stuff.
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So everyone agrees with this, but they don't
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want to help.
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And we you know, we as the United
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States have to remember that because we think
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it's pretty shocking.
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We're going to remember that it was a
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test.
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He says it himself.
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It was a test test to see if
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they would stand up.
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And naturally, the question that he wanted was
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planted and came.
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Are you rethinking the United States relationship with
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NATO, possibly getting out?
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Well, I'm disappointed in NATO that we spend
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trillions of dollars on NATO.
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Think of it trillions over the years, many
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trillions of dollars.
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It's one of the reasons we have deficits
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and we help other countries.
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And when they don't help us, I mean,
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it's certainly something that we should think about.
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But I don't need Congress for that decision.
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As you probably know, I can make that
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decision myself.
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I'd work with some very smart people and
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I'd always deal with Congress anyway.
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But I don't need Congress for that decision.
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But, you know, when you when you say
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rethink, I'm not I have nothing currently in
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mind.
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But I will say that I'm not exactly
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thrilled when we help them with Ukraine, that
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Ukraine would have been over in one day
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if we didn't help.
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Frankly, Ukraine would have been over in the
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first day.
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They had the best equipment in the world.
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It was our equipment given by sleepy Joe
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Biden.
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No charge, no hundreds, hundreds of billions of
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dollars of the best equipment in the world.
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No charge.
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I will say that I'm not happy about
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it.
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No.
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So there's your shot across the bow.
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I love the trolls.
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See Brooklyn one, one, two.
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Well, you know what's funny?
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High gas prices are funny.
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You know what's funny?
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No gas.
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I live through that.
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Me, me live through that, too.
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No gas.
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Yeah, because we didn't have the region under
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control.
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We're anti-war.
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If you're anti-war, you have a very
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weak stance.
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You have nothing left.
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Get rid of your iPhone.
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The U.S. Navy protects that in.
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And so who did stand with America is
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exactly the people who make sure that you
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have gas at all.
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Which countries are joining?
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Well, we've had great support from the Middle
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East.
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Qatar has been great.
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The UAE has been absolutely great.
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Saudi Arabia has been terrific.
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Bahrain has been very good.
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The Middle Eastern countries have been very strong
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in their support.
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And of course, Israel has been our partner.
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Israel's been very, very strong.
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Yes.
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So that kind of, yeah.
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Meanwhile, there's been a lot of, like, good
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old Joe Kent.
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Oh, wait, wait, wait.
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You're going too fast.
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I'm going too fast.
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Okay, let's go.
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We'll get to Joe Kent in a moment,
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and then we can have a good laugh
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about Israel.
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So the president then reminds everybody where we
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were with Iran during the Obama administration.
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And he even asked us if we'd forgotten
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about it.
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If we didn't do the attack, or if
14:48
I'll go a step further, if I didn't
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terminate the Iran nuclear deal given to us,
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one of the worst deals ever made, by
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Barack Hussein Obama.
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Remember when they sent Boeing 757s over there?
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Loaded with cash.
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Hundreds of millions of dollars.
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He would have been very happy.
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This was a wonderful.
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They sent hundreds of millions.
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People forget that.
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Does anybody remember?
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Right?
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You remember.
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Hundreds of millions of dollars in a Boeing
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757.
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I think they had two of them loaded.
15:18
They took the seats out, and they put
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cash.
15:22
And it was so much that there wasn't
15:23
a bank in Virginia, Maryland, or D.C.
15:26
that had any money left.
15:28
They stripped them of all their money, put
15:30
it into place, sent it to Iran, almost
15:33
as ransom.
15:34
Yeah, almost.
15:35
That's not going to happen with Trump.
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And nobody ever did anything about it.
15:39
Nobody ever said anything.
15:40
Can you imagine if I did that?
15:43
I didn't know that the banks in Virginia
15:45
and Maryland and D.C. were empty of
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cash.
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That's an interesting detail.
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I've never heard before.
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I haven't heard that at all.
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But, you know, we could have all wished
15:56
for a plane crash that day.
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Money from heaven.
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Mana from heaven.
16:04
So we're winding it up here.
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Mr. Trump, Mr. President, you have a day
16:10
after plan.
16:10
It's just a military operation to you.
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But do you not have a day after
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plan?
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And if so, what is your day after
16:16
plan for Iran?
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Well, we have a lot.
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Look, if we left right now, it would
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take 10 years for them to rebuild.
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But we're not ready to leave yet.
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But we'll be leaving in the near future.
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We'll be leaving in pretty much the very
16:33
near future.
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But right now, they've been decimated from every
16:38
standpoint.
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And again, we've had great support from countries
16:42
in the Middle East.
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Great support.
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But we've had no support from, essentially, no
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support from NATO.
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Yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep.
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Then we actually had a thing about NATO.
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I'll get you to Joe Kent.
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Where is it?
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Here we go.
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Yeah.
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Huh.
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I thought I had this here.
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Where is my...
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Goodness gracious.
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Where is my...
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Oh, here it is.
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This is from...
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Actually, this is Canada Global News.
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And they bring in all the Europeans on
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this.
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Because, clearly, the president has no clue, no
17:26
plan, no idea what he's doing.
17:28
The U.S. president sounded so sure about
17:31
Iran's liberation...
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I say tonight that the hour of your
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freedom is at hand.
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...that the war would be over quickly.
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I think you'll see it's going to be
17:38
a short-term excursion.
17:40
But Donald Trump has discovered that Iranian freedom
17:42
is not at hand.
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They don't have guns, and the other ones
17:45
have guns.
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Highly sophisticated machine guns.
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It's the small observations that are revealing that
17:51
the Iranian regime can still threaten the global
17:54
economy.
17:55
Literally, a single terrorist can put something in
17:58
the water or shoot something or shoot a
18:00
missile.
18:00
Trump said he didn't need NATO's help, then
18:03
asked for it, didn't get it, then declared
18:05
he didn't need it, and never did.
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Incoherent.
18:08
I would describe Trump's approach to all of
18:09
this as strategically incoherent.
18:11
This expert on U.S. foreign policy says
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Trump's objectives have swung from regime change to
18:16
nuclear disarmament.
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He's not even sure who to talk to.
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I don't know if they're ready yet.
18:21
And we don't even know their leaders.
18:22
All of this suggests to me that nobody's
18:24
on the same page, and nobody really knows
18:26
what the point of the war is or
18:29
how it's going to end.
18:31
NATO allies, recently intimidated by Trump's threats and
18:34
tariffs, are forcefully resisting him now.
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France would never take part, says President Emmanuel
18:40
Macron, in an operation to unlock the Strait
18:43
of Hormuz.
18:43
For many, it all comes back to the
18:45
same question.
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What is Trump's endgame?
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We haven't been consulted, and we don't really
18:50
understand what are the objectives of this war.
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It's no surprise, say experts, that neither the
18:57
allies nor shipping companies want to risk Iranian
19:00
attacks in the narrow strait.
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They can exploit the geography of the Strait
19:04
of Hormuz and use relatively unsophisticated weapons that
19:07
are easy to hide and attack shipping almost
19:09
whenever they want.
19:11
So Iran really has the ability to protract
19:13
this conflict pretty significantly.
19:14
So Trump finds himself in a war in
19:16
which Iran will not surrender and America's usual
19:19
partners will not take part.
19:21
This is what happens when the United States
19:23
mistreats its allies.
19:24
What we're seeing over the last couple of
19:25
days is that there's no international appetite to
19:28
help Donald Trump out of this mess.
19:30
Trump's plan to win or end the war
19:32
still sounds vague.
19:34
We'll be leaving in the near future.
19:36
We'll be leaving in pretty much the very
19:39
near future.
19:39
Eric Sorensen, Global News, Toronto.
19:42
I love this.
19:43
It's been obvious for over 100 years what
19:47
is going on, and Trump is the first
19:50
president to actually do something about it.
19:53
And people who keep saying, oh, we're doing
19:55
this for Israel, it's a very illogical, unintelligent
20:02
take.
20:03
To what end?
20:06
To what end?
20:07
The whole point is the oil.
20:09
The oil has been the point since 1906,
20:12
I think, whenever Churchill changed the British Navy
20:16
from coal to oil.
20:18
And they went in and created the Anglo
20:21
-Persian Oil Company, later BP.
20:25
And everything was hunky-dory and everybody was
20:28
happy until 1953.
20:30
Then we, CIA and MI6, went in because
20:34
they had a republic, they had democratically elected
20:37
government.
20:38
And like, oh, we can't have this.
20:40
We need strife and people to be crazy.
20:43
And why don't you just take our opium
20:45
like you did when they deal in the
20:46
first place?
20:46
And the prime minister, what was his name?
20:49
Mahhuzad or something, I forget his name.
20:51
Yeah, well, and he was the one who
20:53
pushed so that Iran would get a cut.
20:55
They wanted to nationalize the oil.
20:56
A cut.
20:57
He was going to nationalize it.
21:00
Right.
21:01
And they did.
21:01
They ended up getting more money, which they
21:03
were getting nothing for this oil getting taken
21:05
from the ground.
21:06
Right, so then we brought in the Shah.
21:09
Our boy.
21:12
We brought him in and he kicked Khomeini
21:14
out.
21:15
And then the Islamic Revolution started to happen,
21:20
which came in 78, 79.
21:23
Again, our fingerprints were all over it.
21:27
It was a student uprising who, I remember
21:30
this.
21:30
I was old enough to remember.
21:32
They got our embassy, had 50 people for
21:35
over 400 days.
21:37
And the CIA was, they'd shredded all their
21:39
documents.
21:40
And the students got all the shredded material,
21:43
took it to school, to the school children.
21:45
Say, hey, you like puzzles?
21:46
Put this together.
21:48
And so they had the proof that we
21:49
had done all of that.
21:51
That's where that's where all this came from.
21:54
The students thought that they were going to
21:56
get freedom and they were going to get
21:58
their own country and they're going to get
21:59
elections again.
22:00
I mean, they were completely misled.
22:03
Oh, well, of course, of course, they were.
22:05
Yes.
22:06
So, yes, they were.
22:07
They were misled.
22:09
And then the nut jobs came in and
22:13
they behooved the people who set the oil
22:15
prices.
22:16
The spot market, I believe, is set in
22:18
London, not in New York or Chicago.
22:21
It's set in London.
22:23
You know, five to fifteen dollars of premium
22:26
per oil for the danger.
22:27
That's pure profit right in their pockets.
22:30
And it's been that way forever.
22:31
And to me, it's so clear.
22:33
If you think this is about getting rid
22:35
of Israel's enemy.
22:36
No, the Abraham Accords have already got everybody
22:39
looking in the same direction.
22:41
Saudi Arabia is ready to be the tech
22:44
Mecca, the AI Mecca.
22:45
They're investing trillions of dollars.
22:48
So Israel.
22:49
No, you're stupid.
22:51
No, really.
22:54
Even I think I have a clip.
22:55
Even Trump.
22:58
He was asked about the objectives of the
23:00
US and Israel.
23:01
Are you speaking with Prime Minister Netanyahu?
23:05
And are your objectives the same in terms
23:07
of ending the war?
23:09
They might be a little different, I guess.
23:11
You know, they're a different country than we
23:13
are.
23:13
A different country.
23:14
Whatever they're doing.
23:16
And Hegseth said effectively the same thing.
23:18
Well, I would just state by saying Israel
23:20
has been a really strong partner in this
23:22
effort.
23:23
Where they have different objectives, they've pursued them.
23:26
Ultimately, we've stayed focused on ours.
23:29
Yeah, there you go.
23:29
And we'll get to more of that later
23:31
after I lead you into Joe Kent.
23:33
Mr. President, your Director of National Counterterrorism, Joe
23:37
Kent, he just resigned today.
23:38
He said he can't support your conflict with
23:41
Iran.
23:41
What's your reaction to that?
23:43
Well, I read his statement.
23:44
I always thought he was a nice guy,
23:46
but I always thought he was weak on
23:48
security.
23:48
Very weak on security.
23:51
I didn't know him well, but I thought
23:53
he seemed like a pretty nice guy.
23:55
But when I read his statement, I realized
23:58
that it's a good thing that he's out.
24:01
Because he said that Iran was not a
24:03
threat.
24:05
Iran was a threat.
24:06
Every country realized what a threat Iran was.
24:09
The question is whether or not they wanted
24:10
to do something about it.
24:12
And Kent really had the same old boring
24:16
take that, oh, well, if you do that,
24:19
then we'll be distracted and China will take
24:22
Taiwan.
24:22
It hasn't happened.
24:23
Right.
24:24
And it may.
24:26
I don't even know if we care anymore.
24:29
It's always so important to Taiwan.
24:32
Evidently, he has been a leaker.
24:37
So I'd love the breaking news.
24:40
It's 318 breaking news.
24:42
Breaking!
24:42
We got breaking news.
24:44
Just a moment ago, sources are saying that
24:47
Joe Kent, the former director of the United
24:50
States National Counterterrorism Center, this is from Semaphore,
24:53
he just resigned.
24:55
He's now under FBI investigation for allegedly leaking
24:58
classified information.
25:00
And the investigation predate his departure.
25:05
Yeah, I saw this.
25:06
I'm not sure what to make of this.
25:09
Well, we also have a PBS Liz Landers
25:12
on Joe Kent.
25:13
OK.
25:15
Who's Liz Landers?
25:16
She works for PBS?
25:17
Yep.
25:17
With his background as a Green Beret and
25:20
a former CIA official, he has both this
25:22
military and intelligence background.
25:23
But he really represents sort of the MAGA
25:26
portion of this administration who is anti-war.
25:29
And that is what we saw today in
25:31
these comments from him.
25:32
He has a close relationship with Tucker Carlson,
25:34
who we've mentioned previously, has been critical of
25:37
this war in Iran since it started.
25:39
He's also a close ally of Tulsi Gabbard,
25:42
the director of national intelligence.
25:44
Ah, you led me right into it.
25:46
Perfect.
25:46
Which, yep, which, of course, four days ago,
25:50
Tucker said.
25:52
Well, here we go.
25:53
So the other day, I found out that
25:55
the CIA is preparing some kind of criminal
25:57
referral against me, a crime report to Department
26:00
of Justice on the basis of a supposed
26:03
crime I committed.
26:04
What's that crime?
26:05
Well, talking to people in Iran before the
26:08
war.
26:09
They read my texts.
26:11
So the crime under consideration apparently would be
26:14
the Foreign Agent Act or something like that,
26:17
acting as an agent of a foreign power.
26:20
And I don't expect this to go anywhere.
26:22
I'm not too worried about an actual criminal
26:24
case against me for a bunch of reasons.
26:26
One, I'm not an agent of a foreign
26:28
power.
26:29
Unlike a lot of people commenting on U
26:31
.S. politics and global affairs, I have only
26:33
one loyalty, and that's the United States.
26:35
I'm a podcaster.
26:38
I thought that there's no way that's a
26:42
coincidence.
26:43
I think that Tucker was talking to Kent.
26:47
Yeah, I thought that, too, with the difference
26:50
being the FBI has opened an investigation against
26:54
Kent and Tucker's talking about the CIA.
26:56
And I mean, it could just be an
26:58
elaborate joke.
27:00
Or Tucker is just this is just an
27:03
elaborate publicity stunt by Tucker.
27:06
I wouldn't put it past them, to be
27:09
fair about it.
27:12
So can I go off on my rant?
27:14
Go for it.
27:16
So I was like looking around, and the
27:18
funny thing that I found was Tucker is
27:21
he likes to be talked about clearly.
27:24
And I found a lot of people talking
27:25
about him.
27:26
But what I found the most interesting was
27:28
Pastor Demonsi, I think that's how you pronounce
27:31
it, from Demonsi, Washington.
27:36
I have two parts to it.
27:37
So the first one is called dangerous.
27:39
The other one is final.
27:40
Within the West, the church itself is being
27:43
more and more divided on one single issue,
27:45
Israel and the Jewish people.
27:47
There's lots of doctrinal things, and the church
27:48
has been fighting for 2,000 years with
27:50
itself about many, many things.
27:51
That's why there's thousands of denominations.
27:52
But what we're seeing now more than ever
27:55
before is that Christians of different ethnicities, different
27:58
groups, different denominations, Catholic, Protestant, the dividing line
28:02
seems to be Israel and the Jews.
28:04
Israel and the Jews.
28:04
Either you believe God's word when it comes
28:08
to Israel and the Jewish people, or you
28:09
believe the Tucker Carlsons and the Candace Owens,
28:12
and that's really causing the kind of riff
28:14
right now.
28:14
Ooh, right up my alley.
28:16
I'll let you finish, and then I'll give
28:18
you my opinion.
28:19
OK, so then there's a final with this
28:22
pastor, by the way, is the founder of
28:26
the Institute for Black Solidarity with Israel, and
28:29
he's in Charlotte, North Carolina.
28:31
So let's let's do the final with him.
28:33
It's dangerous because of who he is.
28:36
The platform that he has.
28:37
He's still with T.P. USA.
28:39
He's still good friends with the vice president
28:41
of the United States.
28:42
Right.
28:42
This is not just some guy on a
28:44
street corner yelling with a bullhorn.
28:46
This guy has access to the highest levels
28:48
of government in our nation.
28:51
So and he's in the platforms, Nick Fuentes.
28:54
And but he's not getting really any pushback
28:57
from the people that should be giving him
28:58
pushback.
28:59
This is a very dangerous moment for our
29:01
nation.
29:02
OK, so I happen to have a conversation
29:05
with Pastor Jimmy about this yesterday on we
29:08
on the we get to do this podcast.
29:11
I've been tracking this because it is probably
29:14
the oldest trick in the book.
29:16
And the Brits love doing it.
29:17
And when I say the Brits, you know,
29:19
MI6, City of London, you know, Wall Street
29:22
affiliated.
29:23
They love to use religion to divide people.
29:27
And what is cropped up and the catalyst
29:31
was Charlie Kirk.
29:32
That was the catalyst.
29:34
And that's when we brought in Israel Jews
29:37
problem, even though it really started October 7th.
29:42
But, you know, then we got that's when
29:44
we got Candace Owens.
29:46
We got Tucker.
29:47
We got Megyn Kelly.
29:48
We got Ben Shapiro.
29:49
We have Mark Levine.
29:51
We've got the Nick Fuentes.
29:57
And the the conspiracy theory, which is up
30:02
my alley, you know, I've looked at many
30:05
conspiracy theories on the show throughout the years.
30:08
Still don't think we landed on the moon.
30:09
But the conspiracy theory is that about 110
30:14
years or about 100 years ago, the Schofield
30:19
Bible was published.
30:21
And the Schofield Bible changed the the way
30:27
American Christians looked at Israel, which had been
30:33
since the days of Constantine.
30:37
So what are we, 300 BC, 300, the
30:41
year 300?
30:43
Constantine made Christianity the official religion of Rome
30:48
and effectively the world.
30:50
And what Constantine said was Israel is no
30:56
more.
30:58
The church is the new Israel.
31:00
And for 1800 years or whatever, you know,
31:03
this this was this was what it was.
31:06
The church is the new Israel.
31:08
And that's called replacement theory.
31:13
What's the Schofield?
31:14
And this really great the way the conspiracy
31:16
theory goes is, well, you know, this guy,
31:18
he edited the Bible is called the Schofield
31:20
Bible.
31:21
Well, he didn't edit the Bible.
31:22
It was a study Bible and the study
31:25
Bible proclaimed dispensationalism, which is is I find
31:31
it somewhat convoluted.
31:32
But there's these, you know, divides world history
31:35
up into seven stages.
31:36
And we're now in the church stage.
31:38
But there's a third.
31:39
And so those are the two camps.
31:41
The camps are none.
31:43
And I think a lot of Catholics are
31:45
in the replay or fulfillment.
31:47
They would call it theology.
31:48
Like the church is new Israel.
31:50
You don't need Israel.
31:51
It's fine.
31:53
The dispensationalists are very much the and I
31:57
think they're ignorant.
31:58
The Ted Cruz's of the world, probably speaker
32:02
of the house, Mike Johnson, the president's pastor,
32:06
Paula White.
32:08
You know, they're like 1948.
32:09
That was the fulfillment of Scripture.
32:11
And these people are all hung up on
32:13
eschatology, the end times.
32:16
You know, we're almost there.
32:17
You know, it's coming.
32:18
Jesus is coming back.
32:19
And if you read the Bible, there's which,
32:23
which, by the way, that definitely reminds me
32:25
of some of the more ridiculously extreme of
32:30
the Muslim religions that believe that the only
32:33
way that Muhammad will come back is if
32:35
we have an apocalypse.
32:37
Oh, yeah.
32:38
Armageddon.
32:38
Exactly.
32:39
Armageddon.
32:40
So but the way I look at it
32:42
and I'm a new Christian, so I have
32:44
the benefit of listening to a lot of
32:46
different people.
32:46
And my pastor, I've been talking about this
32:50
with him for months.
32:52
There's a third way, which is called covenant
32:54
theology.
32:56
And in the Bible, it says black and
32:59
white.
33:00
God says this land is for the chosen
33:03
people.
33:03
Now, he doesn't say Benjamin Netanyahu.
33:06
He doesn't say the borders as drawn in
33:10
1948.
33:12
And we as Gentiles are grafted into the
33:16
Jewish people.
33:17
So that you can believe that Israel belongs
33:22
to the Jews without having to define it
33:24
that way and without having to be crazy
33:30
about it.
33:31
You don't have to be nuts because you
33:33
can just read the words that God said.
33:36
So evidently, Tucker mistook something that someone said
33:39
in Israel.
33:42
So when Palestine was having all the issues,
33:46
all the Christians moved.
33:47
They left.
33:48
They went to other parts of the world.
33:49
They went to Israel.
33:52
And Tucker thought that it meant that there
33:55
was ethnic cleansing of Christians.
33:57
He completely misunderstood.
33:58
But that's because he is not.
34:01
I don't think he has any religious background
34:03
at all.
34:03
So I would love to go into this
34:06
thing.
34:07
I've got Tucker Carlson's spirituality.
34:10
And this is a movie called Christianities by
34:14
Holy Wisdom Films by John Hears.
34:16
And they have a sneak peek that features
34:18
Tucker Carlson.
34:19
So let's do part one.
34:21
Do you think the presence of evil is
34:23
kick-starting people to wonder about the good?
34:25
That's what happened to me.
34:26
That's what happened to you?
34:28
Oh, yeah.
34:28
I had a direct experience with it.
34:32
In the milieu of journalism or just— No,
34:34
in my bed at night.
34:36
And I got attacked while I was asleep
34:38
with my wife and four dogs in the
34:39
bed and mauled.
34:42
Physically mauled.
34:43
In a spiritual attack by a demon?
34:45
Hold on.
34:45
What was with the nat pop of the
34:47
dog?
34:48
I couldn't get it out.
34:49
I tried.
34:50
No, that's perfect.
34:51
That's perfect.
34:52
Let's hear it again.
34:53
I was asleep with my wife and four
34:54
dogs in the bed and mauled.
34:57
Physically mauled.
34:58
In a spiritual attack by a demon?
35:00
Yeah, by a demon.
35:02
Or by something unseen that left— Is it
35:04
right?
35:05
Claw marks on my sides.
35:07
So it left physical marks.
35:08
Oh, they're still there.
35:09
Yeah, yeah.
35:09
A year and a half ago.
35:10
Was your wife terrified?
35:12
I know you were.
35:12
I wasn't.
35:13
I was totally confused.
35:14
I woke up and I couldn't breathe and
35:16
I thought I was going to suffocate.
35:17
And I walked around outside.
35:19
And then I walked in and my wife
35:21
and dogs had not woken up.
35:22
And they're very light sleepers.
35:23
And then I had these terrible pains on
35:26
my ribcage and on my shoulder.
35:27
And I was just in my boxer shorts
35:29
and I went and flipped on the light
35:30
in the bathroom.
35:31
And I had four claw marks on either
35:33
side underneath my arms and on my left
35:35
shoulder.
35:36
And they were bleeding.
35:37
Wait, they were bleeding?
35:39
They were bleeding, yeah.
35:40
They were actual claw marks.
35:41
And I sleep on my side.
35:43
So I wasn't clawing myself.
35:45
I don't have long nails.
35:46
And they didn't fit my hands anyway.
35:48
But, yeah, that happened.
35:50
So, I'm not from a world where things
35:52
like that happen.
35:52
I never heard of anything like that happening
35:53
before.
35:54
I had no idea what that was.
35:56
I knew it was spiritual immediately.
35:58
Hmm.
36:00
Okay.
36:01
It goes on.
36:01
I've heard.
36:02
I think he told.
36:03
I think he mentioned a version of this
36:04
on Joe Rogan, I think.
36:06
Maybe, but let's go to Part 2 and
36:09
then 3.
36:09
They're both short.
36:10
I'm not from a, what do they call
36:12
it, faith tradition that talks about things like
36:15
that or even acknowledges their existence.
36:16
Like there's nothing like that.
36:18
I've never heard anybody say anything like that
36:20
in my whole life.
36:20
What was the next day like?
36:22
Well, the next morning, I woke up, and
36:24
I thought that was the weirdest dream I've
36:25
ever had.
36:26
And then I saw blood on my sheets,
36:28
and I realized that was not a dream
36:29
at all.
36:30
I was like, oh, my assistant was like
36:31
the only evangelical Christian I know, you know,
36:33
well enough to call something bizarre like that.
36:36
Totally bizarre like that.
36:38
And she said, oh, yeah, no, no, that
36:40
happens.
36:40
Yeah, people are attacked in their bed by
36:41
demons.
36:42
What?
36:45
Wow.
36:48
Yes.
36:49
Which is nonsense because he's Episcopal, and they
36:53
do talk about it.
36:53
So let's go to 3.
36:55
And I'm not pretending to understand that.
36:57
I can only say what happened to me,
36:58
and that did happen to me.
37:00
And then I was seized with this very
37:02
intense desire to read the Bible, which I
37:05
then started.
37:06
Without any study aids or anything, I bought
37:08
a Bible that didn't have any.
37:09
I'm not interested in editorializing in the Bible.
37:12
I just want to read it and see
37:13
what's in there myself.
37:13
I have very low levels of trust for
37:15
Christian pastors, most of whom, you know, I'm
37:18
just not a fan at all.
37:19
So right there, when he's, there's no reason
37:23
for him to say, I don't need to
37:25
study Bible.
37:26
I think he was set up or he's
37:29
being set up or he did this purposely
37:31
to bring in the Schofield Bible conspiracy.
37:39
Maybe or maybe, since it's common across religions
37:43
that there are fallen angels and symbolic monsters,
37:47
entities associated with destruction, ethical lapses and spiritual
37:52
struggle for human souls.
37:54
I wonder why did he go back to
37:56
bed?
37:59
Maybe he popped a Zen and was doing
38:02
just fine.
38:03
I don't know.
38:03
But not seeking out religion.
38:06
I mean, I'm sorry if I, during the
38:08
night, if I suddenly woke up after being
38:10
visited by a beast, I would certainly seek
38:14
out guidance.
38:15
I wouldn't just reject it all.
38:17
And everything that he said since this about
38:20
the Bible, he is completely wrong.
38:22
He attributes stuff to Moses that Moses didn't
38:25
do.
38:26
It's amazing how much he's twisting the words.
38:29
Oh, well, if you listen to the podcast
38:31
with Pastor Jimmy, I mean, he's saying crazy
38:34
stuff.
38:35
And I just need to reiterate that, yes,
38:38
1948 came from the Balfour Declaration of 1917.
38:43
And it was Britain, Britain created Israel.
38:47
They created all the, hey, they had the
38:48
Pico-Sykes Agreement, Britain and France.
38:50
They just drew lines on a napkin.
38:52
And we'll call that Iraq, Iran, we'll call
38:54
that Syria, Jordan.
38:56
And then later, oh, we're going to put
38:58
Israel here.
38:58
It's going to be fantastic.
39:00
And people say, oh, that was created by
39:01
Zionists.
39:02
Yeah, it was created by the British.
39:04
And the whole idea was to have the
39:06
Jews there to be on both sides of
39:09
the, you know, on the Sinai, to keep
39:11
Egypt in check.
39:12
And what was Britain doing?
39:13
They were funding the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt.
39:15
This has always been about protecting the waterways
39:19
and the oil.
39:20
And unfortunately, I find it unfortunate, we do
39:24
have a lot of politicians, Christians, who are,
39:28
they're so deeply entrenched into the fulfilling of
39:32
biblical prophecy of Israel that, yeah, they definitely
39:38
feel that, oh, we have to protect Israel
39:40
at all costs.
39:41
I don't think Trump is one of them.
39:44
I really, he's pragmatic.
39:46
He'd even say, you know, the prayer breakfast
39:48
is, I don't think I'm going to heaven.
39:50
I don't think I belong there.
39:53
Because he is about profit.
39:55
He is about making America wealthy and prosperous
39:59
again.
40:01
And so, yes, there are definitely, definitely politicians
40:06
who are all in on the dispensationalism, all
40:10
in on Israel being the fulfillment of prophecy.
40:13
But I don't think that's why Trump is
40:15
doing this.
40:15
And I also don't think that Israel has
40:17
blackmailed him.
40:19
I mean, so Tucker, Tucker is good friends
40:21
with Joe Kent.
40:23
So we get Tucker being investigated by the
40:26
CIA, Kent investigated by the FBI.
40:30
Kent resigns.
40:31
He says two things.
40:33
He says Iran posed no threat.
40:35
And he said, well, you know, Israel is
40:38
the one that dragged us into it.
40:39
And he shows up on Tucker's show yesterday.
40:42
Because the attacks on him have prevented an
40:44
honest conversation about what he's actually saying.
40:47
And what he's saying is, and he says
40:49
it clearly, and we're going to ask him
40:50
about it directly in just a moment.
40:52
Israel got us into this war.
40:54
Its lobby in the United States pressured the
40:56
president.
40:57
And its prime minister in Israel told the
40:59
president, we're going without you.
41:01
Join us, because if you don't, your troops
41:04
in the region, interests in the region, your
41:05
citizens in the region will all be at
41:07
risk.
41:07
You have no choice.
41:08
They led the way.
41:09
That's Joe Kent's position.
41:10
And rather than push back against that and
41:13
say, no, actually, he's wrong, they're telling you
41:15
to shut up.
41:16
And why are they doing that?
41:17
Well, there's only one reason people ever become
41:19
hysterical and slanderous.
41:21
Start screaming at you rather than answering you.
41:23
It's because they're lying.
41:24
Oh, yes, of course.
41:25
Of course, because they're lying.
41:27
So he gets Kent on.
41:29
And I'm glad that we talked about Rubio
41:31
and his statement, which was so overtly clear
41:36
what he was trying to communicate.
41:37
And after I talked to former JAG military
41:42
lawyer, Rob, the constitutional lawyer, he agreed.
41:46
So it's not just me.
41:48
He agreed that this was a brilliant move
41:51
because they filed with the United Nations under
41:56
Section 51.
41:57
They filed that they were protecting the interests
42:01
of the United States after Israel attacked Iran
42:05
because they did not want Congress blocking anything
42:09
that they're doing.
42:10
You notice you don't hear about the War
42:12
Powers Resolution anymore because it doesn't apply, because
42:15
the lawyers know that the paperwork is filed.
42:19
And Rubio had to.
42:21
He, in essence, was providing cover.
42:24
And exactly as I thought, as exactly as
42:27
people were spiking the ball in the end
42:30
zone, Tucker and Kent used this Rubio speech
42:33
as clear proof that Israel dragged us into
42:36
this.
42:36
And I see you weak trolls saying the
42:38
same thing in the troll room.
42:39
It's important to stop and say, here's what
42:41
we actually know.
42:42
So I'd like now, if we could, just
42:44
to play one of the statements that you
42:46
alluded to.
42:46
And that's from Marco Rubio, the secretary of
42:48
state.
42:48
And this was shortly after this war commenced.
42:50
And he was explaining, as is his habit,
42:54
in a thoughtful, precise way, why.
42:56
Here's Secretary of State Marco Rubio.
42:59
And so the president made the very wise
43:00
decision.
43:01
We knew that there was going to be
43:02
an Israeli action.
43:04
We knew that that would precipitate an attack
43:05
against American forces.
43:07
And we knew that if we didn't preemptively
43:09
go after them before they launched those attacks,
43:11
we would suffer higher casualties and perhaps even
43:14
higher those killed.
43:15
And then we would all be here answering
43:16
questions about why we knew that and didn't
43:18
act.
43:20
Okay.
43:20
So that is his almost contemporaneous explanation.
43:24
And it's not offhand.
43:25
He reasons it out.
43:27
He explains there's a logic chain there.
43:28
And he says, we knew not that Iran
43:31
was going to attack.
43:32
He did not say that.
43:32
He said we knew that Israel was going
43:35
to attack Iran.
43:36
And in retaliation for those attacks by Israel
43:39
against Iran, Iran might attack American forces.
43:43
So the imminent threat that the Secretary of
43:45
State is describing is not from Iran.
43:47
It's from Israel.
43:49
Exactly.
43:49
And I think this speaks to the broader
43:51
issue.
43:52
Who is in charge of our policy in
43:54
the Middle East?
43:55
Who is in charge of when we decide
43:56
to go to war or not?
43:57
In this case, with what the secretary described
44:00
and later on the president, later on the
44:01
Speaker of the House and the way the
44:03
events played out, the Israelis drove the decision
44:06
to take this action, which we knew would
44:09
set off a series of events.
44:11
Meaning the Iranians would retaliate.
44:15
It's so unbelievable to me.
44:18
Yeah.
44:18
If it was truly – I can see
44:21
people say, oh, he's got a Zionist gun
44:23
pointed at his head.
44:24
That's why he's doing it.
44:25
The guy got shot.
44:26
He doesn't care.
44:27
He does not care.
44:28
He doesn't care about the midterms.
44:30
He doesn't care about anything.
44:31
He cares about getting the British system out
44:37
of America.
44:38
It surrounds us.
44:40
What do you think Canada is?
44:43
They have been running the oil business, the
44:46
shipping business, the shipping insurance business for 100
44:50
years.
44:51
And we've always been the dummies who've protected
44:54
them when it came down to it.
44:56
Oh, we'll go into World War I.
44:58
We'll go into World War II.
45:00
And Trump is saying, no, we are going
45:02
to stop it and we are going to
45:04
control it.
45:05
That is what's happening here.
45:07
And Israel has not – so far they've
45:09
only had downside.
45:10
They've only got bombs incoming.
45:12
They only have bad things happening.
45:14
It has not benefited them.
45:16
And now this was the kicker, what Tucker
45:19
says here.
45:19
So you've already seen in the wake of
45:21
a recent terror attack, neocons used that attack
45:25
as a way to try and censor, shut
45:28
down, maybe even imprison critics of the decision
45:31
to go to war in Iran.
45:33
So it's almost like you control both sides.
45:36
Did you hear what he said there?
45:39
Yeah.
45:40
He said, we killed a religious leader, so
45:42
now it's a religious war.
45:45
What?
45:46
Are you kidding me now?
45:48
This is not a religious leader.
45:50
This is a nut job.
45:51
As a way to try and censor, shut
45:54
down, maybe even imprison critics of the decision
45:57
to go to war in Iran.
45:59
So it's almost like you control both sides.
46:02
You advocate for a war which inevitably stokes
46:05
religious hatred because you advocate for the killing
46:08
of a religious leader.
46:10
So you're helping to create religious war, permanent
46:13
generational religious war.
46:15
And then when your country or the country
46:17
you happen to be living in that you
46:18
don't really care about feels the effects when
46:20
Americans are killed as a result of that,
46:22
you use their deaths to justify the silencing
46:27
of people who criticize to you.
46:28
Does that make sense?
46:29
No, exactly.
46:30
Yeah.
46:31
So how much are you concerned we're going
46:33
to see more of that?
46:34
I'm very concerned.
46:35
I pray we won't, but the odds are
46:39
not in our favor just considering how open
46:41
our borders have been.
46:43
Obviously, this type of propaganda radicalizes people.
46:45
Again, we've already seen attacks.
46:46
We saw attacks inspired by the conflict in
46:48
Gaza.
46:49
So I think we're going to see more
46:50
of this.
46:51
I made the mistake of opening up Twitter
46:54
a couple times today.
46:55
There's people calling for dissenting voices to be
46:59
charged, to be locked up, et cetera.
47:02
And they may be.
47:03
The erosion of civil rights, I think, during
47:05
a time of conflict is nothing new.
47:06
Unfortunately, we've seen it before.
47:07
It's the rule.
47:08
This is the part I don't understand.
47:10
Who's being silenced?
47:12
Well, besides that, I have never heard anyone
47:16
since Tucker's been on his own show has
47:19
pushed back against him.
47:22
Nobody pushes back.
47:23
It's not like he's got any guardrails.
47:26
I hate to use that term, but it's
47:27
like nobody is hauling him in, and he's
47:30
getting nuttier and nuttier.
47:32
Well, I think he's an agent.
47:33
I think he is an agent for Britain,
47:36
and he is at the genesis of all
47:39
of this.
47:40
The whole Charlie Kirk thing, he's drawing that
47:43
all towards him.
47:44
He's saying, oh, the whole problem is that
47:47
Charlie wouldn't bar me from speaking at TPUSA.
47:53
The Jews hated it.
47:55
This is what the British crown, this is
47:58
what the city of London does.
48:00
And I am connecting Charlie Kirk's murder to
48:04
all of this.
48:04
And it's successful because it has completely driven
48:09
a schism into the conservative right in the
48:12
United States.
48:14
And it's those who think Israel did everything
48:16
and those who don't.
48:18
Well, now I understand why Carlson was visited
48:21
by a beast in the middle of the
48:22
night.
48:23
Now, I will say, as a Christian, I
48:26
got to say Ephesians 6.
48:29
We do not wrestle against flesh and blood,
48:31
but against the rulers, against authorities, against the
48:34
cosmic powers over this present darkness and the
48:36
spiritual forces of evil and heavenly places.
48:39
I truly believe that.
48:41
I believe there's constant spiritual warfare going on.
48:45
I'm just not sure what attacked Tucker, if
48:48
you know what I mean.
48:51
Well, we'll see.
48:52
And so I'm going to make it even
48:55
crazier because we're all nuts here in the
48:57
Hill Country.
48:58
You know, Roseanne Barr moved to the Hill
48:59
Country.
49:00
She lives right outside of Fredericksburg.
49:03
I see her from time to time.
49:05
She's a very odd woman.
49:07
You know, she's five foot one, maybe five
49:10
feet tall.
49:10
Oh, yeah, she's tiny.
49:11
Yeah, she's tiny.
49:12
And I was introduced to her and she
49:14
doesn't shake hands.
49:16
She shakes arm.
49:18
So, you know, like a brother handshake where
49:22
you grab each other's wrist and you don't
49:24
shake hands.
49:25
You grab the wrist.
49:26
I don't shake hands.
49:27
It was very strange.
49:29
Yeah.
49:30
But she was on with Beanie Boy, with
49:32
Tim Pool, and she gets it.
49:35
Well, the truth is that the royal British
49:38
Empire is behind all of it.
49:40
Uh-oh.
49:41
Oh, no.
49:42
Let's go.
49:42
Let's do it.
49:43
Tell me about it.
49:43
And that is what Trump has, you know,
49:46
pretty much kicked in the guts of.
49:49
And that's because of Prince Andrew and Jeffrey
49:52
Epstein and all the banks of City of
49:54
London.
49:55
That's what's really coming down.
49:57
And, of course, Iran is a great, you
50:01
know, money laundering center of all of that.
50:04
And it sells, you know, 20 percent of
50:06
its gas to China.
50:08
So Trump has put them all, including Cuba.
50:11
He's put their whole network that nobody ever
50:15
talks about because they don't want to know
50:17
the truth of how it's just British imperialism.
50:22
Standard oil is a better word for it
50:25
than British imperialism.
50:26
They'll go anywhere for the oil.
50:28
They'll make up fake states all over the
50:31
world and then sell weapons to both sides
50:34
of every skirmish because they make money for
50:37
their stock markets housed in Basel, Switzerland, at
50:40
the Bank of International Settlements, where they decide
50:44
and fund every war because they make money
50:46
on war.
50:47
They are the military, industrial, pharma, whatever, medical,
50:55
everything.
50:55
They are consolidated raw power and they are
50:59
royal.
51:00
And, you know, come on.
51:02
And in the past 20 or 30 years,
51:04
things have been degrading internationally.
51:06
And I think we need to be careful.
51:08
It's more complex than that.
51:09
Again, it's like we same issue that the
51:12
anti-Semites are making, blaming Jews for everything.
51:14
We need to be careful not to fall
51:15
into the same.
51:16
Now, we can easily blame the banks of
51:18
the city of London.
51:20
Absolutely.
51:21
I think that's more true.
51:21
I agree with that more than the than
51:23
the royal family specifically.
51:26
But the royal family, you know, is the
51:28
front office for that.
51:30
Let's be real.
51:32
I think it's it's involved.
51:34
It has historic.
51:35
Yes, it has tendrils everywhere.
51:36
But it's just there's no one I think
51:38
competent, competent enough to be doing that.
51:41
Listen to this Brit trying to defend them.
51:43
Most of them are just sort of like
51:44
they're in a kind of retirement home.
51:45
Generally, the entire royal family, the the prominent
51:49
members like the royals of this world own
51:53
the central bank of all central banks, which
51:57
are all royals.
52:00
Not just you.
52:01
Not just you.
52:02
OK, maybe.
52:03
And they're all related to each other, too.
52:05
There's about 13 families of them.
52:07
Let's let's jump to this next story.
52:09
We've got this.
52:09
Yeah.
52:09
OK, go ahead.
52:11
Don't dive into it, Tim.
52:13
You might get you might get Charlie Kirk.
52:15
You don't want that.
52:17
You know, you know who defends the royal
52:19
family more than that?
52:20
Those in the UK.
52:22
Trump.
52:23
The Canadians.
52:24
Oh, my God.
52:25
Trump is always talking nice about him.
52:27
But I think that's a that's a wink
52:29
and a nudge.
52:30
Oh, yeah.
52:30
But all of the she's right.
52:35
They are.
52:36
Look, the the van Montbatten's there.
52:39
They're all German.
52:40
They're related to the Dutch.
52:41
They're related to the Danes, related to the
52:43
Swedes.
52:44
They are.
52:44
They just watch the crown.
52:46
Watch Victoria.
52:48
You get a real good sense of how
52:50
how that inbreeding has worked throughout the years
52:52
and where they get all the money.
52:54
East India Company.
52:56
The British Empire was robbing the entire world.
53:00
All that money went.
53:02
What were they living off of?
53:03
And now we have this kind of joke
53:05
where, oh, where the taxpayers are paying for
53:07
Buckingham Palace.
53:08
These people own so much actual land.
53:11
It's not funny.
53:12
And what no one ever talks about.
53:14
There's a really excellent book called The Merchants
53:16
of Grain.
53:18
The talk has been updated in the last
53:20
few years.
53:22
Five families control all the grain in the
53:25
world, in the entire world.
53:28
And if they want to cause famine.
53:30
OK, you don't get your wheat this year.
53:32
Is that Cargill?
53:33
Are they part of the family?
53:35
Cargill is another layer.
53:39
There's Cargill and, you know, can't think of
53:42
all the names.
53:44
We have some big privately owned corporations that
53:47
control our meat and control everything else.
53:49
But there are five families that are very
53:51
secretive.
53:52
But it's laid out in this book called
53:54
The Merchants of Grain, which I highly recommend.
53:56
Because you read it and you go, I've
53:58
never heard of these people.
53:59
And they're tied into the international banking as
54:02
well.
54:02
And that is not the grain part, although
54:06
he made or the company now.
54:08
It's Dreyfus, Julia Louis Dreyfus' grandfather.
54:14
He's one of the biggest shysters when it
54:16
comes to oil, you know, getting oil from
54:20
Libya, bringing it to Iran, back and forth.
54:23
I mean, you're right.
54:25
There are families you never ever hear about
54:27
who are involved in all of this trade.
54:29
And I'm pretty sure Trump sees through that.
54:33
And, you know, someone said on Twitter the
54:37
other day, oh, man, you guys have Trump
54:39
drain syndrome in reverse.
54:41
I said, what are you talking about?
54:42
So you never talk about this.
54:44
Well, you don't listen to every episode, I
54:46
guess, because we have.
54:47
And I show them bingit.io. Look, here
54:48
it is.
54:50
Well, you should criticize Trump more.
54:53
If it's valid, if it's valid, well, we
54:58
criticize Trump plenty.
54:59
If it's valid and if we just happen
55:01
to agree with what we see, then we're
55:04
Zionist shills, and especially me as the crazy
55:08
Christian nationalist Zionist at work.
55:11
Well, the one thing to remember is Trump
55:13
has dealt with people who are way richer
55:17
than him.
55:18
He's dealt with somebody because, you know, in
55:20
the business that he's always been in, I
55:22
mean, his family is not that rich.
55:24
They really aren't.
55:24
They're kind of like low-level rich.
55:26
Oh, yeah, low-level.
55:27
And, you know, at that level, there are
55:30
people who are so far head and shoulders
55:32
above you that he has a perspective that
55:35
most people don't have because he's dealt with
55:38
them.
55:38
He's made deals with them.
55:39
He's talked to them.
55:42
You know, there are people who you can't
55:45
even imagine how much they control and how
55:47
rich they are.
55:48
And they're just people.
55:50
I mean, that's just it.
55:50
My whole thing is, you know, everybody's a
55:52
person.
55:53
Everybody poops.
55:54
Everybody poops.
55:56
Exactly.
55:57
But, you know, in my past, I've known
56:01
some people who are rich.
56:03
And I'd go, oh, you're rich.
56:04
And they'd go, oh, no, not at all.
56:06
I'm like the poor rich.
56:07
I'm like the wrong side of the border
56:10
rich.
56:11
And I'd be like, but you've got like
56:12
$100 million.
56:13
They'd go, oh, you have no idea.
56:14
It's true.
56:15
I remember, and our Dutch listeners will remember
56:18
Nina Brink.
56:19
Nina Brink was the Dutch lady who bought
56:23
up a couple of different internet companies, internet
56:27
access companies, and was going to launch World
56:30
Online.
56:31
And World Online was going to be a
56:34
global internet services provider.
56:37
You know, this is from the days when
56:38
we still had dial-up modems and everything.
56:40
She bought Euronet and a couple other companies.
56:44
And she was going to float it on
56:45
the stock market.
56:46
She had already been very successful with business
56:49
IT systems, a company called A-Line.
56:53
And Ron Bloom and I, we went to
56:57
raise money from her, which is how I
56:59
came to know her.
57:00
And I immediately saw what kind of a
57:02
woman she was.
57:03
She's kind of this power woman, you know,
57:06
dressed in the typical kind of pastel color,
57:10
you know, the fuzzy dress, you know, that's
57:14
supposed to be very expensive.
57:15
She's got the helmet.
57:17
The Chanel jacket.
57:17
Yeah, yeah.
57:18
And she has hair like Queen Ursula von
57:23
der Leyen.
57:25
And right out of the bat, she said,
57:26
oh, this is great.
57:27
Yes, we'll invest a million dollars in you
57:29
in a subordinated loan.
57:31
Okay, goodbye.
57:33
You know, that's not investing.
57:34
You're lending us money, and then if we
57:36
do anything good with it, you get the
57:38
first money out.
57:39
And if we don't, then we're your slave
57:41
for the rest of our lives.
57:43
But I got to know her.
57:44
I tried to sell her a helicopter at
57:46
one point.
57:47
It wasn't very successful.
57:49
But this was a big flop, this float,
57:54
because it turns out right before the IPO,
57:58
it came out that she had pre-sold
58:01
all of her shares before it went public.
58:05
But I remember so clearly at a certain
58:09
point she says to me, oh, you know,
58:12
this is before the IPO.
58:14
The Rothschilds are interested.
58:15
The Rothschilds.
58:16
And she was like a slug.
58:18
The Rothschilds.
58:19
Oh, the Rothschilds are interested.
58:22
And she's a very wealthy woman.
58:24
The same, you know, hundreds of millions.
58:26
But when she heard the Rothschilds, oh, I
58:28
might even meet the Rothschilds.
58:30
I'm like, wow, you are a sycophant, lady.
58:33
You're sick.
58:35
So, yeah.
58:35
Yeah.
58:36
And so I see the game that Trump
58:40
is playing.
58:40
It's an oil game.
58:42
Now, the problem is this is going to
58:47
cost a lot of money.
58:48
He's already asking for a trillion and a
58:50
half dollar military budget next year.
58:54
The only way to fix the debt is
58:59
to get interest rates way down and to
59:02
switch the monetary system to stable coins so
59:07
that we still have the world reserve currency
59:09
because if we don't have the world reserve
59:11
currency through stable coin, which are backed by
59:14
treasuries, then we're toast.
59:16
So it is a big gamble.
59:18
I mean, it's Trump casino level gamble and
59:21
that didn't turn out so well.
59:22
So, you know, but at least he's doing
59:25
something different.
59:27
Right.
59:28
That's what I like.
59:29
And I don't like war, of course.
59:31
I don't like that.
59:32
But every single one of us listening or
59:34
speaking was born into a world at war.
59:37
Every single person.
59:39
That is the world.
59:41
Well, you know, it's not like we aren't
59:44
warring a warring species.
59:46
That's what we do.
59:47
We form tribes and then we war against
59:49
another tribe.
59:50
That's what we've done since the beginning.
59:52
I mean, that's why there's no Neanderthals here
59:55
anymore.
59:56
You know, you know, there were other species
59:59
and we wiped them out.
1:00:00
And maybe we just need to come to
1:00:03
terms with our own culture.
1:00:06
We are a warring, fighting people.
1:00:11
Yeah, that is what we are.
1:00:12
That is.
1:00:13
And we believe it's just when we do
1:00:17
it.
1:00:19
It's fun, I'm sure.
1:00:21
It's fun.
1:00:22
Let's be honest.
1:00:23
That's not fun.
1:00:24
I mean, let's do something fun because this
1:00:26
came across from New York Post.
1:00:29
I believe it's an AI voice, which is
1:00:31
disappointing, but the story is fantastic.
1:00:34
President Trump was stunned to learn that U
1:00:37
.S. intelligence indicates new Iranian Supreme Leader Mojtaba
1:00:40
Khamenei may be gay and that his father,
1:00:43
the late Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, feared his suitability
1:00:46
to rule the Islamic Republic for that reason.
1:00:49
The Post can reveal.
1:00:51
Trump couldn't contain a surprise and laughed aloud
1:00:53
when he was briefed on the intel, according
1:00:56
to sources.
1:00:56
Others in the room also found it, quote,
1:00:59
hilarious and joined the president's reaction.
1:01:02
While one senior intelligence official has not stopped
1:01:04
laughing about it for days, said one person
1:01:06
familiar with the briefing.
1:01:08
The shocking claim was described to the Post
1:01:10
by two intelligence community officials and a third
1:01:13
person close to the White House.
1:01:15
All three sources say the implausible sounding allegation
1:01:17
is viewed as credible by U.S. spy
1:01:19
agencies.
1:01:21
Two of the sources said the intelligence indicates
1:01:23
that Mojtaba has had a long term sexual
1:01:25
relationship with his childhood tutor.
1:01:28
The third source said the intelligence indicated the
1:01:30
affair was with a person who formerly worked
1:01:32
for the Khamenei family.
1:01:34
Mojtaba, who is believed to have been wounded
1:01:36
in the same February 20th airstrike that killed
1:01:39
his father and other members of his family,
1:01:41
has made aggressive sexual overtures to men caring
1:01:44
for him, possibly while under the influence of
1:01:47
heavy medication.
1:01:48
One of the Post sources said U.S.
1:01:51
spy agencies do not have photographic evidence of
1:01:53
the 56 year old's alleged sexual attraction to
1:01:55
men.
1:01:55
But the sources insisted the tip is solid,
1:01:58
with one saying it was derived from one
1:01:59
of the most protected sources that the government
1:02:02
has.
1:02:02
I don't know if you caught that, but
1:02:04
when someone says the tip is solid, I'm
1:02:06
like I'm sold on the story.
1:02:08
Thank you very much.
1:02:09
The Gayatola, the Gayatola Khamenei.
1:02:11
Perfect.
1:02:12
You know, you know, his father, I'm shocked
1:02:15
his father let him live.
1:02:18
Yeah.
1:02:19
Yeah.
1:02:20
Yeah.
1:02:20
All these all these people, you know, saying,
1:02:23
oh, you know, we're protesting against, you know,
1:02:27
for Iran, against the United States.
1:02:28
Do they understand that?
1:02:32
That homosexuality isn't is is a death sentence,
1:02:36
that, you know, they other opinions aren't accepted.
1:02:44
I mean, it's like all these people would
1:02:45
be dead if they went to Iran under
1:02:47
the last regime, under the IRGC.
1:02:50
I love the fact.
1:02:52
I bet he is gay.
1:02:54
Good.
1:02:55
He kind of I'm all for him.
1:02:57
My gate.
1:02:57
Now that I look at the guy, my
1:02:59
gaydar does kind of go off.
1:03:01
I never thought I never looked at him
1:03:03
that way.
1:03:04
OK, well, that's interesting.
1:03:07
Oh, you like him, huh?
1:03:08
No, no, I'm not.
1:03:10
Not not into that.
1:03:12
Not now.
1:03:13
So over and overnight there was some, you
1:03:17
know, at this point I'm thinking.
1:03:20
What is because clearly, you know.
1:03:25
Everything is destroyed, their radar, their air force,
1:03:28
they they can still shoot off some missiles,
1:03:30
I'm sure, but the drones, they still got
1:03:32
drones.
1:03:36
And the Straits of Hormuz, I'm thinking more
1:03:39
and more like maybe maybe we just keep
1:03:42
that shut for a little bit.
1:03:43
I mean, we're working on alternatives with our
1:03:46
GCC friends in the Abraham Accords.
1:03:49
It's only a tenth of what it needs
1:03:51
to be, but it is an alternative.
1:03:53
Iranian attacks on the oil facilities of neighboring
1:03:55
Gulf nations are creating new chaos for exports.
1:03:59
Well, Iranian attacks have targeted the United Arab
1:04:02
Emirates port of Fujairah for the second day
1:04:05
in a row, reportedly triggering a large fire
1:04:07
at an oil facility there.
1:04:09
Fujairah is one of the very few points
1:04:11
of export for Gulf oil producing nations that
1:04:14
bypasses the Strait of Hormuz.
1:04:17
It's determinants for an Emirati oil pipeline that
1:04:20
runs from Habshan.
1:04:21
That's a port that lies before the key
1:04:23
maritime choke point now effectively closed by the
1:04:26
threat of Iranian attacks.
1:04:27
That pipeline typically handles around 1.5 million
1:04:30
barrels per day, maxing out at 1.8
1:04:34
million of the UAE's 3.5 million daily
1:04:37
total.
1:04:38
Iran is well aware of the pipeline's value
1:04:40
in allowing tankers to avoid the Strait of
1:04:43
Hormuz.
1:04:44
Saudi Arabia has its own bypass pipeline going
1:04:47
from Abqaiq on the Persian Gulf to Yanbu
1:04:50
on the Red Sea.
1:04:51
A fleet of tankers has now gathered at
1:04:54
Yanbu waiting to load up on oil.
1:04:57
Shipments from Yanbu have gone from 2.1
1:04:59
million barrels per day to 3.1 million
1:05:02
over the past week.
1:05:03
The head of the International Energy Agency, meanwhile,
1:05:05
says the current war has created the largest
1:05:08
oil supply disruption in the history of global
1:05:11
markets.
1:05:12
So that's only 10 percent of what normally
1:05:14
comes through the Straits, but maybe they can
1:05:16
amp that up.
1:05:17
I'm not sure.
1:05:18
I think that Tina texted me the other
1:05:22
day, I just filled up my car with
1:05:25
premium.
1:05:26
It was 469 a gallon.
1:05:28
Thanks, Trump.
1:05:30
Well, yeah, yeah.
1:05:32
Yes, it sucks right now.
1:05:34
But I really think that this is this
1:05:38
is more shenanigans than anything.
1:05:42
This is going to get solved.
1:05:43
What we want is China to pay retail.
1:05:47
Stop with your wholesale prices, China.
1:05:49
Retail.
1:05:50
Right.
1:05:52
I didn't get a clip, but evidently the.
1:05:57
The Russian tanker was hit by.
1:06:02
Why can't I remember the name of the
1:06:04
country?
1:06:04
Ukraine.
1:06:06
Yeah, by Ukraine, by.
1:06:07
No, no, no, no, no.
1:06:08
I'm not going to let you say Ukraine
1:06:10
because that's OK.
1:06:11
OK, Ukraine, Ukraine, Ukraine.
1:06:14
OK, Ukraine.
1:06:15
And the tanker is on fire.
1:06:18
It has liquid petroleum gas and crude and
1:06:23
it's floating off of Italy.
1:06:25
And everyone's been told to stay, you know,
1:06:29
500 kilometers away because it's a bomb.
1:06:32
They don't know when it's going to go
1:06:33
off.
1:06:34
Nice.
1:06:35
Yeah.
1:06:35
Well, it's like, well, this is this is
1:06:37
what's amazing when it comes to LNG, liquefied
1:06:41
natural gas.
1:06:43
That's our business.
1:06:45
Yeah.
1:06:45
So when when this happened the other day,
1:06:48
when Iran bombed a gas field or gas
1:06:53
installation that belongs to the Qataris, you know,
1:06:56
they share this one huge gas field in
1:06:58
the Gulf there.
1:07:01
It's like that only that's going to Europe.
1:07:04
And that means we're going to be selling
1:07:06
more of it.
1:07:07
I mean, to me, it's like, OK.
1:07:09
And then Trump was mad at the Israelis
1:07:11
about this.
1:07:13
South Pars is the largest natural gas field
1:07:15
in the world, split between Iran and Qatar.
1:07:19
Iran says it was targeted by airstrikes overnight,
1:07:22
reportedly by Israel.
1:07:24
Iran's president warning of consequences beyond control.
1:07:29
And Qatar accused Israel of a dangerous and
1:07:32
irresponsible step that threatens global energy security.
1:07:38
In response, Iran advised citizens near five oil
1:07:41
and gas facilities in U.S. allied Gulf
1:07:44
states, including Qatar, to evacuate.
1:07:47
And on Wednesday night, Qatar reported major damage
1:07:51
from a missile attack at a refinery.
1:07:53
Saudi Arabia also said it intercepted ballistic missiles.
1:07:58
The price of oil has spiked again amid
1:08:00
the tensions.
1:08:01
And as the Gulf remains closed off for
1:08:03
energy exports to nations, Iran sees as allied
1:08:07
with the U.S. and Israel.
1:08:09
We all agree, of course, that trade has
1:08:11
to open up again.
1:08:13
And what I know is that allies are
1:08:15
working together, discussing how to do that.
1:08:18
U.S. allies have so far refused White
1:08:20
House requests for help to open up the
1:08:23
Strait of Hormuz.
1:08:25
Overnight, the U.S. military says it struck
1:08:27
Iranian missile sites along the strait.
1:08:30
The United States military has a lot of
1:08:32
capabilities, as you have seen play out over
1:08:34
the last 18 days.
1:08:36
And they still do have tricks up their
1:08:38
sleeve.
1:08:38
Oh, tricks up their sleeve.
1:08:39
So here's what the president posted.
1:08:41
He truthed it.
1:08:43
He says, Israel, out of anger for what
1:08:45
has taken place in the Middle East, has
1:08:47
violently lashed out at a major facility known
1:08:50
as South Pars gas field in Iran.
1:08:53
A relatively small section of the hole has
1:08:55
been hit.
1:08:56
The United States knew nothing about this particular
1:08:58
attack, and the country of Qatar was in
1:09:00
no way, shape or form involved with it,
1:09:02
nor did it have any idea it was
1:09:03
going to happen.
1:09:04
Unfortunately, Iran did not know this or any
1:09:07
of the pertinent facts pertaining to the South
1:09:09
Pars attack.
1:09:10
And unjustifiably and unfairly attacked a portion of
1:09:13
Qatar's LNG gas facility.
1:09:15
And then uppercase, no more attacks will be
1:09:18
made by Israel.
1:09:19
Because, you know, he's got that Zionist gun
1:09:21
to his head.
1:09:22
So that's why he's doing it in uppercase.
1:09:25
Pertaining to this extremely important and valuable South
1:09:28
Pars field, unless Iran unwisely decides to attack
1:09:31
a very innocent, in this case, Qatar, in
1:09:33
which instance the United States of America, with
1:09:36
or without the help or consent of Israel,
1:09:38
because Israel needs that gas, will massively blow
1:09:42
up.
1:09:42
That's bigger than just big.
1:09:44
Will massively blow up the entirety of the
1:09:47
South Pars gas field at an amount of
1:09:49
strength and power that Iran has never seen
1:09:51
or witnessed before.
1:09:52
I do not want to authorize this level
1:09:54
of violence and destruction because of the long
1:09:56
-term implications that it will have on the
1:09:58
future of Iran.
1:09:59
But if Qatar's LNG is attacked again, I
1:10:01
will not hesitate to do so.
1:10:03
Thank you for your attention to this matter.
1:10:05
So there is the president afraid of Israel,
1:10:08
I guess.
1:10:09
He's pissed.
1:10:10
And I'm going to guarantee you they don't
1:10:12
do that again.
1:10:14
I love that line.
1:10:16
Thank you for your attention to this matter.
1:10:19
I hope this letter finds you well.
1:10:26
Yeah, that's...
1:10:28
Actually, that's pretty frightening.
1:10:31
The thought of what we could do, you
1:10:33
know?
1:10:35
I'm going to take my ball and bat,
1:10:38
and I'm going home.
1:10:40
Well, we're not going to go home.
1:10:41
No, no.
1:10:43
This is going to be resolved.
1:10:46
It is.
1:10:47
And everything will end.
1:10:48
The question is, will Iran figure it out?
1:10:52
And for sure, we have so-called boots
1:10:55
on the ground, and we've got agents all
1:10:58
over the place.
1:10:59
The IRCG, they're kind of a distributed organization,
1:11:04
so they're targeting all these regional IRGC offices.
1:11:08
There's a lot going on.
1:11:09
I'm just hearing about this.
1:11:10
I have no proof of it other than
1:11:12
what military people are telling me, which could
1:11:15
be propaganda.
1:11:15
I don't know.
1:11:17
But it sounds true.
1:11:18
We don't have troop carriers going out there
1:11:20
yet, and I don't think that will happen.
1:11:23
I don't think so.
1:11:24
And I think it will return back to
1:11:27
some normalcy probably within the next few weeks,
1:11:30
and then we'll see.
1:11:34
But even apparently former presidents are a little
1:11:39
envious that Trump is the one who did
1:11:41
this.
1:11:42
Other presidents should have done.
1:11:44
I spoke to one of the former presidents,
1:11:46
who I actually like.
1:11:48
I actually speak to some.
1:11:49
I do like some people.
1:11:51
It would be shocking.
1:11:53
And he said, I wish I did what
1:11:54
you did.
1:11:55
Could have done it.
1:11:56
Other presidents, somebody should have done it.
1:12:00
47 years this went on.
1:12:02
They call Iran the bully of the Middle
1:12:04
East.
1:12:05
And you could have never had the Abraham
1:12:06
Accords.
1:12:07
You could never have had peace in the
1:12:08
Middle East.
1:12:09
Now you're going to have peace.
1:12:10
You could never do it with the dark
1:12:11
cloud of a nuclear Iran.
1:12:15
But Iran is a shell of itself.
1:12:17
It's no longer a bully.
1:12:19
It's the one that gets bullied.
1:12:20
It's the bully that got beat up.
1:12:21
We beat the crap out of them, and
1:12:23
they deserve that.
1:12:25
I just want to ask you about something
1:12:26
very interesting that you said twice today.
1:12:28
You talked to another former president of the
1:12:31
Iran strikes.
1:12:32
Was it George W.
1:12:34
Bush?
1:12:34
No.
1:12:35
Was it Bill Clinton?
1:12:36
I don't want to say.
1:12:38
I don't want to say.
1:12:40
Because a member of a party, a member
1:12:45
of a party, they have Trump derangement syndrome.
1:12:50
But it's somebody that happens to like me.
1:12:53
And I like that person who's a smart
1:12:55
person.
1:12:56
But that person said, I wish I did
1:12:59
it.
1:13:01
Okay?
1:13:01
But I don't want to get into who.
1:13:02
I don't want to get him into trouble.
1:13:04
Maybe, hey, you know what?
1:13:06
I think you probably know.
1:13:08
You know, it's interesting.
1:13:10
And maybe he'd be proud.
1:13:11
And I could even ask him, would you
1:13:13
like me to reveal your name to Peter
1:13:15
at Fox?
1:13:17
Well, at least you have high ratings.
1:13:21
Hillary wouldn't let him.
1:13:22
Come on.
1:13:22
Exactly.
1:13:23
Hey, Donald.
1:13:24
I really like that, man.
1:13:25
I wish I had done that.
1:13:26
Would have been good.
1:13:27
Could have been real good.
1:13:29
Yeah.
1:13:30
Hillary wouldn't let him.
1:13:31
Exactly.
1:13:32
Exactly.
1:13:33
Yeah.
1:13:34
Yeah.
1:13:34
I thought that was funny.
1:13:36
The guessing game.
1:13:37
You know?
1:13:38
That's Trump.
1:13:39
That's Trump.
1:13:40
What else you got on your list here,
1:13:42
Mimi?
1:13:42
You seem to have other things you brought
1:13:44
along to the party.
1:13:45
So did you watch the Oscars?
1:13:47
You know, I'm glad you asked.
1:13:50
First of all, ratings down almost 10%
1:13:53
over last year.
1:13:55
Only 3.5 million in the demo watched.
1:13:58
So that is an objective failure.
1:14:01
I could not even get through the monologue.
1:14:05
The first problem for me was, you know,
1:14:08
he does the opening sequence.
1:14:11
And I have not seen any of the
1:14:12
movies.
1:14:13
So I knew that they, you know, that
1:14:14
this all related to the movies.
1:14:16
But I had not seen any of them.
1:14:19
Because who goes to the movie theaters anymore?
1:14:22
And the mic sounded so bad.
1:14:26
I couldn't get it.
1:14:27
I was like, oh, man.
1:14:29
It could not get.
1:14:30
It bothered me too much.
1:14:32
And I thought the decor was orange, like
1:14:38
burnt orange kind of color.
1:14:40
So no, I did.
1:14:41
On YouTube, I later went back and I
1:14:43
looked at my favorite segment, the dead segment.
1:14:45
And there's Barbara singing The Way We Were.
1:14:49
And she was – it was crap.
1:14:53
She doesn't look – She looks like who
1:14:57
was our – The Crypt Keeper.
1:14:58
No, no, no.
1:14:59
Who was our Health and Human Services Secretary,
1:15:02
the Admiral, the dude in the dress?
1:15:04
Who was that?
1:15:05
Who was that?
1:15:06
I don't remember, but yes.
1:15:08
Come on.
1:15:09
Who was that?
1:15:10
That's what she looked like.
1:15:11
Right away, Tina's like, that's the Admiral.
1:15:15
I said, the Admiral?
1:15:16
Yeah, yeah, yeah, from Health and Human Services.
1:15:19
I got to look up his name now.
1:15:22
Levine.
1:15:22
That's right, Levine.
1:15:24
Levine.
1:15:25
So for several years, she had a summer
1:15:29
place that she would come to up here,
1:15:31
and I would see her at the local
1:15:33
little independent grocery store.
1:15:36
Barbara or Levine?
1:15:38
Barbara.
1:15:39
Babs, yes.
1:15:41
And so her husband is – what's her
1:15:44
husband?
1:15:45
Her husband is – what's Mr. Babs?
1:15:48
Oh, Brosnan, Pierce Brosnan.
1:15:51
So I run into him at Sunny Farms.
1:15:54
I love Sunny Farms.
1:15:55
And I was looking at him, and he
1:15:57
had one of those – Is that a
1:15:58
spa for celebrities, Sunny Farms?
1:16:00
Is that where you go to detox?
1:16:01
Sunny Farms is the local nut house that
1:16:03
has great vegetables and has a butcher counter.
1:16:07
It's just a little independent grocery store.
1:16:09
Got you.
1:16:10
Trendy.
1:16:11
Trendy.
1:16:12
So I go there, and Brosnan's there, and
1:16:15
I don't recognize him really, but I noticed
1:16:17
that he had the most beautiful haircut I've
1:16:19
seen for a long time.
1:16:20
Brolin.
1:16:20
I'm sorry, Josh Brolin.
1:16:22
Josh Brolin.
1:16:23
Thank you.
1:16:23
So he has – That's what he said.
1:16:25
It's one of those haircuts that looks like
1:16:27
every hair was cut individually, measured and cut
1:16:30
individually.
1:16:31
It was gorgeous.
1:16:32
And I went, you've got a great haircut.
1:16:34
What, you said that?
1:16:35
Yeah, I said that to him.
1:16:36
Why not?
1:16:36
I'm in the potato aisle.
1:16:38
Brolin.
1:16:39
And he looks at me and he goes,
1:16:41
do you know who I am?
1:16:45
And I went, well, do you know who
1:16:47
I am?
1:16:48
Oh, now that's – And I walk away.
1:16:52
You showed him, Mimi.
1:16:54
I'm Marilyn Diane, just so you know.
1:16:57
I'm Marilyn Diane.
1:16:58
I own this place up here in Sequim,
1:17:00
whatever it's called, Port Angeles.
1:17:02
So Barbara would always – Barbara, whatever you
1:17:05
say your name, Streisand, would be in line
1:17:08
shopping with us peasants with sunglasses on and
1:17:13
really expensive shoes.
1:17:15
You have a hatred of famous people.
1:17:18
Well, and she's looking around like, who's recognizing
1:17:21
me?
1:17:22
And it's like, we don't give a shit.
1:17:24
You're on Sunny Farms.
1:17:25
We don't care.
1:17:26
You're a shop.
1:17:27
And she'd be up here all the time.
1:17:28
I ran into her maybe five or six
1:17:31
times.
1:17:32
She didn't look like that.
1:17:34
I mean, she's had some work, and it
1:17:36
doesn't look good.
1:17:38
I absolutely loved – I have a Fonda
1:17:40
about Redford clip.
1:17:43
Can I – before you go in, I
1:17:44
just – oh, no.
1:17:46
We'll play that, and then I have to
1:17:47
say something about your hatred for famous people.
1:17:50
The Fonda, Fonda.
1:17:52
Oh, Fonda.
1:17:52
Here we go.
1:17:53
I mean, we lost so many greats this
1:17:55
year.
1:17:55
I want to know how come Streisand was
1:17:57
up there doing that for Redford.
1:17:58
She only made one movie with him.
1:18:00
I made four.
1:18:01
You made four.
1:18:02
I have more to say.
1:18:03
Say it now.
1:18:03
I mean, what do you remember most about
1:18:04
working with Robert Redford?
1:18:06
I was always in love with him.
1:18:08
Fonda.
1:18:08
How old is Fonda now?
1:18:10
How old is she?
1:18:11
About the same age.
1:18:12
You know, in her 80s.
1:18:13
88.
1:18:14
She's 88.
1:18:14
Yeah, and she looks like she had a
1:18:16
few to drink.
1:18:17
So did you notice who they left out
1:18:19
of the – of the – of the
1:18:22
– No.
1:18:25
Who did they leave out?
1:18:27
They left out Brigitte Bardot, Robert Carradine.
1:18:31
Really?
1:18:32
Yeah.
1:18:33
Richard Chamberlain.
1:18:35
Wow.
1:18:36
And they left out David Kiley, who invented
1:18:39
IMAX.
1:18:41
Huh.
1:18:42
It was – I couldn't watch it.
1:18:45
I wouldn't watch it.
1:18:47
John described – he was – since he
1:18:49
was in the hospital, he had nothing else
1:18:50
to do.
1:18:50
He described early on – Oh, he watched
1:18:53
it?
1:18:54
Yeah.
1:18:55
Well, twice, I think.
1:18:59
Early on, there were three people who were
1:19:00
up on stage, and the first two got
1:19:02
to speak, and the third one – the
1:19:06
music cued up, and she was like, oh,
1:19:08
okay.
1:19:09
And then somebody said, no, no, you're with
1:19:11
Netflix.
1:19:12
Thank Netflix.
1:19:13
And they stopped – they didn't lower the
1:19:15
music.
1:19:16
They just stopped it to allow her to
1:19:18
give her Netflix plug.
1:19:19
So your stance towards famous people, the way
1:19:25
I just heard you talk about her and
1:19:27
say that she was looking around to see
1:19:29
if anyone recognized her, you could be a
1:19:32
Dutch person.
1:19:35
Dutch – this is how Dutch people are
1:19:37
around celebrities.
1:19:39
Overnight, I was famous in the Netherlands at
1:19:42
19 years of age because I was doing
1:19:45
a live music show on one of the
1:19:48
two television stations, and there was nothing else
1:19:50
to watch.
1:19:51
That was it.
1:19:53
And I would be in a store or
1:19:57
somewhere, and people would come up to me
1:19:59
and said, I don't know who you are
1:20:02
because I don't watch television.
1:20:06
And that reminds me of you, Mimi, this
1:20:09
hatred of people who are famous.
1:20:11
This is very interesting.
1:20:13
And you've mentioned this to me.
1:20:14
You said, I don't get celebrity.
1:20:16
I don't like famous people.
1:20:18
What is your problem, Heidi?
1:20:19
Well, wait a minute.
1:20:20
Let's go back.
1:20:22
My father's mother, my grandmother, my actually native
1:20:27
grandmother, was on stage.
1:20:32
She was actually a very famous stage actress.
1:20:36
And she's the one who introduced W.C.
1:20:38
Fields to her producers and got him in
1:20:42
a play called Poppy, which later became Sally
1:20:44
of the Sawdust, his first motion picture.
1:20:47
Her name was Emma Janvier.
1:20:49
And Emma Janvier died in 1921, 22, right
1:20:54
around there, during the production of Poppy.
1:20:58
And so my dad knew everybody as a
1:21:01
kid, everybody in the whole business.
1:21:03
I mean, people that no one will remember.
1:21:05
And as a little kid, I'd ask him,
1:21:09
because W.C. Fields and my dad stayed
1:21:11
close all through my dad's life.
1:21:13
Tell people who W.C. Fields was, because
1:21:16
I don't think everybody knows him.
1:21:18
20-year-olds don't even know who Michael
1:21:20
Jackson is.
1:21:21
So you've got to explain.
1:21:22
Okay.
1:21:23
W.C. Fields was a vaudevillian juggler, one
1:21:26
of the best jugglers in the world.
1:21:28
He juggled whole cigar boxes, and many of
1:21:32
them.
1:21:33
Yeah, I know.
1:21:34
And he was mostly in vaudeville, which is
1:21:40
how Emma knew him, because Emma was also
1:21:41
in vaudeville.
1:21:43
Emma got him into that one play, which
1:21:47
led to the movies.
1:21:48
And he was in a series of movies.
1:21:49
He did a lot of radio shows.
1:21:51
He was exceptionally popular because he was such
1:21:53
a goofball character.
1:21:55
And he had a funny delivery.
1:21:57
He'd be like, you know, my little chickadee.
1:22:00
And I would ask my dad as a
1:22:01
kid, did he talk like that?
1:22:03
And my dad would go, no, he talked
1:22:04
just like you and me.
1:22:05
What do you think?
1:22:06
He's just a person.
1:22:08
So in my life, I've been able to
1:22:11
meet lots of people who are famous, and
1:22:13
some people, you know, I feel sorry for
1:22:16
them.
1:22:17
Because you never have a moment without somebody
1:22:21
there or the paparazzi showing up and taking
1:22:24
pictures or people just intruding on you.
1:22:28
And so I've always just kind of like,
1:22:30
you know, I've— Let me say this about
1:22:33
that.
1:22:34
Yes, you know about that.
1:22:35
Yes, I do.
1:22:36
I am uniquely qualified to discuss this.
1:22:40
Any celebrity can get around that.
1:22:46
Yeah.
1:22:46
You can get around it.
1:22:48
You may have some restrictions on your life,
1:22:50
like maybe you can't eat at the Ivy
1:22:52
in Hollywood.
1:22:54
Or in an Out Burger with an Oscar
1:22:58
in your hand.
1:22:59
Maybe, maybe.
1:23:00
You know, I've had in the Netherlands when
1:23:03
I was with my first wife before we
1:23:04
were married, it was quite scandalous.
1:23:07
She was still married.
1:23:08
She was 16 years my senior, both in
1:23:11
show business, small country.
1:23:14
We had photographers in the trash can.
1:23:18
I kid you not.
1:23:18
It was hilarious.
1:23:20
But in general, it was quite easy to
1:23:24
get around stuff and not— I never felt
1:23:28
like, oh, I have no privacy.
1:23:31
I can't live.
1:23:32
You know, you don't have to live in
1:23:34
the big house in Brentwood.
1:23:36
You know, you can live all kinds of
1:23:38
different places.
1:23:39
Hollywood is not Hollywood.
1:23:40
You don't need to live there, which is
1:23:43
why I have so much respect for, you
1:23:45
know, many— like Harrison Ford doesn't need to
1:23:49
live somewhere in Montana or whatever.
1:23:51
Go away.
1:23:51
Go live somewhere else.
1:23:52
I have enjoyed fame for it, and I
1:23:58
can—I remember three specific instances.
1:24:02
And people know me from two things, and
1:24:05
it's been fantastic.
1:24:06
So when I was in my 1920s, I
1:24:09
was known in Holland and across Europe.
1:24:13
There was one scary kind of time when
1:24:15
I got mobbed at an airport in Portugal,
1:24:17
but it was also cool.
1:24:18
I'm like, wow, look at this.
1:24:19
I'm like the Beatles.
1:24:20
It was awesome.
1:24:22
But I was, you know, I was 20
1:24:23
or whatever, so it was—yeah, 20.
1:24:26
I remember moving to New York in the
1:24:29
late—mid to late 80s, and I was just
1:24:32
on MTV.
1:24:33
MTV had just gone to basic cable, 40
1:24:36
million households, so it was definitely a thing.
1:24:39
And we lived on 56th and Broadway, and
1:24:41
we walked to the Hard Rock Cafe on
1:24:44
57th.
1:24:46
And the Hard Rock, it was such a
1:24:48
thing.
1:24:48
I mean, people stood in line to get
1:24:51
into the Hard Rock.
1:24:52
And so we were in line, you know,
1:24:54
and I had my baseball cap on, whatever,
1:24:58
you know.
1:24:59
It wasn't necessarily a look at me.
1:25:01
I'm Adam Curry with the hair all poofed
1:25:02
up.
1:25:03
And I remember the doorman rushing up to
1:25:07
me and saying, hey, Adam, hey, man, you
1:25:10
don't have to stand in line.
1:25:11
Come on in.
1:25:12
And so we got in.
1:25:14
We ate for free.
1:25:15
They gave us all kinds of cool Hard
1:25:16
Rock stuff.
1:25:17
I remember thinking to myself, wow, that's really
1:25:19
odd.
1:25:20
Like two weeks ago, I would have had
1:25:22
to stay in the line, and now I'm
1:25:23
in here eating for free, getting free swag.
1:25:26
This is great.
1:25:28
And so that was the one time.
1:25:31
And so I'm either known for, you know,
1:25:34
those days.
1:25:35
I was known for MTV for a long
1:25:37
time.
1:25:37
It was bad and also not good for
1:25:41
me after I left MTV.
1:25:42
I started my company.
1:25:44
This became a big company.
1:25:46
We took it public on NASDAQ in 96,
1:25:50
and we had big customers, Budweiser, Reebok, IBM,
1:25:58
Avon.
1:25:59
Fortune 500 companies at the time.
1:26:03
And it was great because we do a
1:26:06
sales meeting, and pretty much this all fell
1:26:08
on the marketing department.
1:26:10
But they'd always bring in the IT guys,
1:26:12
so I could swoon over the ladies in
1:26:17
the marketing department who were going to make
1:26:19
decisions.
1:26:19
But I also had the technological background to
1:26:21
talk to the IT nerds.
1:26:23
That was good.
1:26:24
But the bad part was whenever we screwed
1:26:28
up, it's like I had to go fly,
1:26:30
and I had to go apologize to the
1:26:31
ladies in the marketing department.
1:26:34
I'll send the MTV guy in.
1:26:36
And now in my early 60s, I'm 61,
1:26:41
but ever since my 50s, you know, I've
1:26:43
been in Texas, kind of, you know, low
1:26:47
profile.
1:26:47
I'm just a dude.
1:26:48
You know, I'm a podcaster.
1:26:50
I'm known from Rogan and from podcasting.
1:26:53
And the only benefit, which I enjoy tremendously,
1:26:58
is that restaurants will always get me a
1:27:03
good table.
1:27:04
The owner always comes over.
1:27:06
He's got a Metallica t-shirt underneath, you
1:27:08
know.
1:27:09
And I have to say it's fantastic.
1:27:12
I love it.
1:27:13
And I'm a great tipper.
1:27:15
But value for value, baby.
1:27:17
I'm a value for value tipper.
1:27:19
I'm a great tipper because I was a
1:27:21
waitress for a long time.
1:27:22
So, okay, I've had this convoluted background, lived
1:27:26
in Reno and then lived in Iran, and
1:27:29
then came to California for a year.
1:27:31
And then my parents were deciding we went
1:27:33
back to Reno.
1:27:35
And my father was going back to being
1:27:37
a merchant marine, so he got offered a
1:27:40
job with Mattson Lines from Hawaii to the
1:27:44
West Coast.
1:27:45
So we went and stayed in Hawaii for
1:27:48
the entire three months of the summer because
1:27:50
my mother needed to be convinced that she
1:27:53
could live in Hawaii because that would be
1:27:56
my dad's home base in Honolulu.
1:27:59
So this was back before jumbo jets.
1:28:03
So Hawaii wasn't super crowded.
1:28:04
It was just for the ultra rich.
1:28:06
And we stayed at the Royal Hawaiian for
1:28:08
three months.
1:28:11
I had a great childhood.
1:28:12
This was like 68.
1:28:14
So my parents just let me have run
1:28:17
of the hotel.
1:28:18
So I could go down.
1:28:18
I could sign for food.
1:28:20
I could go to the beach before dawn,
1:28:22
and I usually left the room right before
1:28:24
dawn because I was a kid.
1:28:29
I had no controls.
1:28:30
I was everywhere.
1:28:32
So my favorite thing to do would be
1:28:34
to go sit next to the pool in
1:28:36
the Royal Hawaiian right before dawn because it
1:28:40
was amazing.
1:28:41
You could smell the plumeria, and you could
1:28:43
get all these great intoxicating scents, and then
1:28:46
breakfast would start, and it would slowly evolve
1:28:50
into the city waking up and the smell
1:28:52
of bacon cooking and all that.
1:28:53
So one morning I'm down there, and I've
1:28:56
got my feet in the pool, and somebody
1:28:58
comes up and sits down next to me,
1:29:00
and he was a couple years older than
1:29:01
me.
1:29:02
Really nice.
1:29:03
We hung out with each other for several
1:29:06
mornings.
1:29:06
But that one morning we just talked, and
1:29:09
he talked about what a burden it was
1:29:10
to be famous.
1:29:13
And he really influenced me in a lot
1:29:15
of ways because I could see it through
1:29:17
his eyes because he was really lamenting it.
1:29:19
I was lamenting being lonely because I had
1:29:22
my brother in Reno.
1:29:23
My brother had gone off to the university.
1:29:25
I kept getting ripped back and forth away
1:29:27
from friends, and I'm in Hawaii.
1:29:31
I don't know anybody.
1:29:31
I'm just the brat kid in the hotel.
1:29:35
And so for several mornings we would hang
1:29:37
out.
1:29:37
We'd run the beach before dawn.
1:29:39
We just had a great time.
1:29:43
And then his entourage would come down and
1:29:45
take him away.
1:29:48
And so then— You lost your train of
1:29:54
thought, didn't you?
1:29:55
No, I was just trying to go which
1:29:57
direction to go, whether I tell you who
1:30:00
it is.
1:30:02
So one night my parents and I were
1:30:04
getting ready to go out to dinner, and
1:30:06
my parents went to restaurants constantly.
1:30:08
And in the lobby, we'd come up on
1:30:11
him and his entourage, and he comes up,
1:30:13
and he says, Oh, Mr. and Mrs. Smith,
1:30:15
I have loved hanging out with your daughter.
1:30:18
She's been the bright point in my world.
1:30:22
Mimi has been so kind to me.
1:30:24
Would you please come as my guest to
1:30:27
my performance tonight?
1:30:28
And here we go.
1:30:30
The big reveal.
1:30:31
Who was it?
1:30:32
It was Jim Morrison.
1:30:34
Wow.
1:30:35
Wait a minute.
1:30:36
Wait a minute.
1:30:37
John, is that where you met Mimi?
1:30:40
No.
1:30:41
Hey, Dvorak, you missed your cue.
1:30:44
You missed your cue.
1:30:45
I know I missed the cue.
1:30:46
You guys are off the road.
1:30:47
You've driven off the road.
1:30:49
You're bouncing around in the desert now.
1:30:52
Ladies and gentlemen, he's back from the dead.
1:30:55
He lives.
1:30:57
Hey, you blew my punchline.
1:30:58
Yes, I'm out of the hospital, and I
1:31:00
should be doing the show on Sunday.
1:31:02
And I couldn't help it.
1:31:03
Since Adam invited me, hey, you could maybe
1:31:07
jump in the show here.
1:31:10
I kind of feel like it.
1:31:13
And he steps on my punchline.
1:31:13
So we have a group here.
1:31:15
Hold on.
1:31:16
Hold on.
1:31:17
Mimi's complaining that you blew her punchline.
1:31:19
Let her get the punchline.
1:31:20
I know the punchline.
1:31:21
That's why I did it.
1:31:25
Oh, the Bickerson's are back.
1:31:29
So I'm actually given this opportunity.
1:31:33
You can't get her back on the road.
1:31:34
No.
1:31:35
Okay, you tell it.
1:31:36
I'm going to be silent.
1:31:38
Go ahead, John.
1:31:40
You can tell him.
1:31:41
You do the punchline for me.
1:31:42
I forgot the punchline.
1:31:44
Okay.
1:31:45
Wow.
1:31:47
So, yeah, never mind.
1:31:48
I'll tell you later.
1:31:49
No, no, no.
1:31:50
Everyone's on pins and needles.
1:31:52
Now we need to know.
1:31:53
So hold on.
1:31:53
It was Jim Morrison.
1:31:55
Right.
1:31:56
And he was getting ready to play the
1:31:58
big venue in Hawaii for one night.
1:32:03
And he invites my parents to come to
1:32:06
backstage to be able to see a show.
1:32:09
And before he even gets it out, my
1:32:10
mother goes, no, no, thank you.
1:32:12
No.
1:32:13
And we go to dinner.
1:32:16
That's the punchline.
1:32:17
That is a good story.
1:32:18
That is a great story.
1:32:19
Hey, John, Mimi has been doing the show,
1:32:23
been filling in for you, been doing fantastic.
1:32:27
I have definitely concluded that without either one
1:32:31
of us, no agenda is not a show.
1:32:36
I miss you.
1:32:38
But Mimi's been pretty fun.
1:32:40
I got to be honest.
1:32:41
No, she's good.
1:32:42
Except when she goes off driving off the
1:32:44
road.
1:32:44
Because what she was doing there, if you
1:32:46
remember, you're the one that triggered it, by
1:32:47
the way.
1:32:48
You basically said, Mimi, give us a shaggy
1:32:51
dog story on how you hate celebrities.
1:32:54
I did not.
1:32:55
I did not.
1:32:58
And the end of the shaggy dog story
1:33:00
is, no, I don't feel it.
1:33:02
It's just like the guy sitting at the
1:33:04
table and saying, hey, hey, Frank, Frank, Frank
1:33:05
Sinatra, say hi to me when you come
1:33:08
by because that's going to impress this girl.
1:33:10
And then Frank goes and is walking by
1:33:12
the guy at the table.
1:33:13
And the guy is on the phone and
1:33:15
looks up at Frank.
1:33:16
He says, hey, hey, later maybe.
1:33:19
It's a kind of similar material.
1:33:22
So anyway, I'll be doing the show on
1:33:25
Sunday.
1:33:26
You sound the same.
1:33:28
It's like nothing.
1:33:29
Did you did you just go to the
1:33:31
Seychelles on vacation?
1:33:32
You don't sound like you've been operated on
1:33:34
at all.
1:33:35
At all.
1:33:36
Right.
1:33:36
Yeah.
1:33:36
Have your chest cracked open some day.
1:33:38
See what you think.
1:33:39
No, thank you.
1:33:41
I'll pass.
1:33:43
I'll pass if you don't mind.
1:33:44
Well, clearly, John got a good night's sleep
1:33:46
last night.
1:33:46
I did not.
1:33:48
Why?
1:33:50
It's almost impossible to sleep because I like
1:33:52
to sleep.
1:33:52
I'm a side sleeper just like Tucker.
1:33:54
I know.
1:33:54
I'm looking for somebody to claw me.
1:33:56
And it hasn't happened.
1:33:57
Ooh, a callback.
1:33:59
Nice.
1:33:59
He's on the phone.
1:34:02
And so I can't do that.
1:34:03
I have to sleep on my back.
1:34:04
And it's very tedious.
1:34:07
Aw.
1:34:07
Tedious is not good.
1:34:08
There is something in your voice that is
1:34:12
different.
1:34:15
There's like a small extra spark of enthusiasm.
1:34:20
Do you think that's possible?
1:34:21
I miss the audience.
1:34:22
Yeah.
1:34:23
The trolls miss you.
1:34:24
I miss you doing it.
1:34:25
Yeah.
1:34:25
Do you miss your wife at all?
1:34:26
I mean, just as an aside.
1:34:28
What?
1:34:29
I like the fact that she says it's
1:34:30
hard to do this three hours of yackety
1:34:33
-yack.
1:34:34
In the whole week of finding clips.
1:34:39
But I do better on ISOs than you
1:34:41
do.
1:34:42
Yeah, yeah.
1:34:42
Yeah, she's got nine ISOs.
1:34:45
Well, and also, by the way, I miss
1:34:47
you, Adam.
1:34:48
Aw.
1:34:49
Thank you, John.
1:34:50
So everybody out there should note that.
1:34:51
Yes.
1:34:52
And I miss you, too.
1:34:53
I said that to you privately.
1:34:54
I said, man, I miss you.
1:34:56
And I said it to Tina.
1:34:57
I said, you know, I never thought I'd
1:34:59
say...
1:35:00
Because initially...
1:35:01
I never thought I'd think that.
1:35:02
No.
1:35:03
No, this is interesting.
1:35:04
Because, you know, like a week ago, Tina's
1:35:07
like, can you call, John?
1:35:08
I'm like, what am I going to say?
1:35:10
We've got nothing to say to each other.
1:35:11
You've been around us when we're not on
1:35:13
the show.
1:35:14
I've got nothing to say.
1:35:16
And she's like, what?
1:35:17
I said, no, whatever.
1:35:19
He's okay.
1:35:20
And then, you know, I was like, Brunetti.
1:35:23
He said, oh, I talked to John Horowitz.
1:35:25
Oh, I talked to John.
1:35:26
I'm like, okay, now I got to talk
1:35:28
to John.
1:35:29
And I talked to you.
1:35:30
I was like, oh, I really miss this
1:35:32
guy.
1:35:33
It's, you know, 18 years is a long
1:35:35
time.
1:35:37
Yeah.
1:35:38
He didn't grouse for the first week, which
1:35:40
really scared me.
1:35:42
What, when you were married, the first week
1:35:43
of your marriage?
1:35:44
No, the first week he was in the
1:35:46
hospital, he barely groused.
1:35:47
He'd be like, uh.
1:35:49
And I was like, where's John?
1:35:50
I want John back.
1:35:52
I want him to say something mean to
1:35:53
me.
1:35:54
There you go.
1:35:56
On that note, like I said, I'll be
1:35:58
on Sunday.
1:35:59
And I hope you guys, I'll leave you
1:36:01
alone.
1:36:01
I was actually going to, intending on jumping
1:36:03
on the, into the stream during the donations
1:36:07
as a bonus.
1:36:08
We're just about to get into the donation
1:36:10
segment.
1:36:10
Yeah, well, this is good enough.
1:36:12
And so I, yes.
1:36:14
Okay.
1:36:14
So excuse me and I'll be on my
1:36:17
way.
1:36:17
All right.
1:36:18
Ladies and gentlemen, there he is.
1:36:19
John C.
1:36:21
Dvorak.
1:36:21
He put the C in cardiac arrest.
1:36:24
Beautiful.
1:36:25
All right.
1:36:27
All right, buddy.
1:36:28
I'll talk to you on Sunday.
1:36:30
Gotcha.
1:36:30
All right.
1:36:30
I'm disconnecting you now because I don't trust
1:36:32
you.
1:36:33
All right.
1:36:33
There we go.
1:36:35
So let's thank some people, Mimi, who have
1:36:37
been kind enough to, to support us.
1:36:41
And first was mentioned that this is a
1:36:43
value for value podcast.
1:36:44
Whatever value you get out of the podcast,
1:36:47
the whole idea is you put it right
1:36:49
back into it.
1:36:51
And you can do that with your time,
1:36:52
your talent, your treasure, any amount, any type
1:36:55
of talent or time.
1:36:57
Lots of people help out doing meetups.
1:37:00
People build websites, maintain servers, void zero, always
1:37:03
making sure that we're up and running.
1:37:05
And there's always the, the artwork, which has
1:37:09
gotten easier for people to do.
1:37:11
But still it's, there's real work involved, you
1:37:14
know, typing.
1:37:15
So we want to thank the artists for
1:37:17
episode 1851.
1:37:19
We titled that one, Mark and Mimi.
1:37:21
I couldn't resist.
1:37:22
And the artwork was from the Baron Darren
1:37:25
O'Neill.
1:37:28
This was one that John would have liked.
1:37:30
Typically I would have said like, ah, it's
1:37:32
too busy.
1:37:33
It looks like a cartoon, but because we
1:37:35
had that whole lobster gate bit.
1:37:38
Did you see the art?
1:37:39
Did you see the art?
1:37:40
I did not.
1:37:41
I'm sorry.
1:37:41
Oh, well, thanks.
1:37:43
Darren's happy to hear that.
1:37:45
It was, it was a dynamite piece, you
1:37:47
know, it was lobsters and the lobsters were
1:37:49
going to war.
1:37:50
And, you know, it was, it was a
1:37:53
very classy, classy, classy classic piece for no
1:37:57
agenda.
1:37:58
And Baron Darren O'Neill did a great
1:38:00
job on that.
1:38:00
And next week we'll return to grousing about
1:38:03
the art.
1:38:04
John and I will be doing it together.
1:38:06
But first I'm going to thank our executive
1:38:08
and associate executive producers for episode 1852.
1:38:11
We thank everybody $50 and above.
1:38:14
You can send your support to the show,
1:38:17
your value to noagendadonations.com.
1:38:19
We kick it off with an anonymous donation
1:38:22
from Marietta, Georgia, $1,000.
1:38:24
Boom.
1:38:26
And here's the note that anonymous sent.
1:38:29
John and Adam, and I'm going to add
1:38:31
Mimi there.
1:38:32
I just want to say thank you for
1:38:33
the last 18 years.
1:38:35
I'm 38 years old, middle-aged, and I've
1:38:37
been listening to you guys for my entire
1:38:38
adult life.
1:38:39
I've graduated college, started a career, married my
1:38:43
wife of 15 years, got a second degree,
1:38:45
have three wonderful children, and started a successful
1:38:48
business.
1:38:49
I'm hoping one of those or two of
1:38:51
those kids are named John and Adam, because
1:38:53
that is kind of the agreement.
1:38:55
Or Mimi.
1:38:55
Or Mimi.
1:38:56
John, Adam, Mimi.
1:38:57
There you go.
1:38:57
There's the kids.
1:38:58
Hey, kids.
1:39:00
There have been wars, economic turmoil, presidencies, the
1:39:03
pandemic, and much more between now and then.
1:39:05
A lot has happened between then and now.
1:39:07
And I guess what I'm trying to say
1:39:09
is that I'm grateful, I'm grateful that you
1:39:10
guys have been a consistent source of reason,
1:39:13
humor, and calm.
1:39:14
I imagine sometimes it's nice to look back
1:39:16
on your body of work.
1:39:18
Oh, it's such a body of work.
1:39:20
Here's Whitesnake.
1:39:21
And feel like it made an impact.
1:39:24
That it was worth it.
1:39:25
That it was worth something.
1:39:26
And I hope, well, yes, a note like
1:39:28
this makes it worth it.
1:39:29
And I hope you two know that what
1:39:30
you have done for the last 18 years
1:39:32
was a worthy endeavor.
1:39:33
Is this like a eulogy?
1:39:34
Are we both dead now?
1:39:35
Is that what's going on here?
1:39:36
Not just for me, but I suspect for
1:39:38
many others living life with you from a
1:39:40
distance.
1:39:41
John's recent heart surgery made me realize that
1:39:43
one day the show will end.
1:39:45
And that thought made me take a stock
1:39:47
in how much I've appreciated you over the
1:39:49
last 18 years.
1:39:50
I didn't want to wait another day to
1:39:53
say a simple thank you.
1:39:54
So thank you from Anonymous.
1:39:56
That's a nice note.
1:39:58
Thank you very much.
1:40:00
Yeah, that's actually lovely.
1:40:02
So that means it's a night now, right?
1:40:04
Yes.
1:40:05
But, of course, I guess we'll be doing
1:40:08
that on Sunday, all nightings and day mings.
1:40:12
Do it next Thursday, because that gives John
1:40:14
time to get back into it before you're
1:40:16
swinging around that sword for so much.
1:40:18
Yeah, good point.
1:40:19
We don't want him to pull something.
1:40:23
So the next one is Don Tommaso DiTorrento.
1:40:28
Yes.
1:40:29
From Kettleby, Ontario, Canada.
1:40:32
$888.88. I sense the give reason John
1:40:35
a reason to live.
1:40:36
Yes.
1:40:37
From Don Tommaso DiTorrento.
1:40:41
No jingles, just JCD karma.
1:40:45
You've got karma.
1:40:48
Coming in with $388.
1:40:50
Got those lucky $88 in there.
1:40:53
Sir Chris and Dame Kristen from Carmel-by
1:40:56
-the-Sea, California.
1:40:57
Lovely place.
1:41:00
Is Clint Eastwood still the mayor over there?
1:41:02
Carmel?
1:41:03
Wasn't he the mayor of Carmel?
1:41:05
Maybe.
1:41:05
And you see the attached note?
1:41:08
Here it is.
1:41:09
Dear John, I rode the California Zephyr down
1:41:11
from Truckee and naturally thought of you and
1:41:14
hope you're getting along okay.
1:41:17
Oh, these are all beautiful get well cards.
1:41:20
Hope you're getting, yeah.
1:41:21
Here's wishing you love and luck from Dame
1:41:23
Kristen and me for a speedy recovery.
1:41:26
All the best to you and the entire
1:41:27
No Agenda family.
1:41:30
Cheers.
1:41:31
That's beautiful.
1:41:32
And Baron Sir Cycle Path from Charlotte, North
1:41:36
Carolina.
1:41:38
$333.34. Get well, John.
1:41:40
Yes.
1:41:41
Very nice.
1:41:44
When you play it once, people, of course,
1:41:46
start to request it right away.
1:41:48
William Jennison from Gresham in Oregon says, I
1:41:53
love you guys.
1:41:53
Just want some karma for John.
1:41:55
Also first time donor, so a de-douching
1:41:57
would be cool.
1:41:59
You've been de-douched.
1:42:00
And he winds up with Adam.
1:42:03
You're amazing.
1:42:03
Amen.
1:42:04
I love ants.
1:42:05
All right.
1:42:06
We'll play a little bit of the ant
1:42:07
song, even though we played lots of it
1:42:09
on the last show.
1:42:10
It is indeed the classic.
1:42:12
I got ants.
1:42:17
I got ants.
1:42:24
You've got karma.
1:42:28
Okay.
1:42:33
Dennis Cadle of Tampa, Florida.
1:42:36
$333.33. ITM gentlemen, and to our fabulous
1:42:40
fill-in Mimi.
1:42:41
Thank you.
1:42:42
This donation is a piggyback to one of
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John's recent tips of the day.
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Thank you.
1:43:21
Thank you for keeping the best podcast in
1:43:24
the universe going strong.
1:43:25
Again, get well, John.
1:43:25
We love Mimi, but want to hear your
1:43:27
voice again soon.
1:43:28
Sincerely, Dennis Cadel.
1:43:30
Cadel.
1:43:31
All right.
1:43:32
Very nice.
1:43:34
Nigel Ewen, I'm thinking, Columbus, Ohio, RoveDucks, 2
1:43:38
.22 and 22 cents.
1:43:39
Thanks for continuing the show in John's absence.
1:43:42
This is the perfect time to ask Mimi,
1:43:44
where's our signed photo of you and John
1:43:47
on your wedding day?
1:43:49
We donated for this special promotion in 2018
1:43:52
and are still waiting to receive this keepsake
1:43:54
photo.
1:43:56
You've got to talk to John about that.
1:43:58
I don't know where he put them, but
1:44:00
we'll get you something signed.
1:44:02
Okay.
1:44:03
Yeah, sure.
1:44:04
It's all on Dvorak.org slash NA.
1:44:07
It's safely stored.
1:44:08
Don't worry.
1:44:09
Yeah.
1:44:10
Sam Rickman, Peck, Michigan, $200 and 88 cents.
1:44:17
Adam, John, and Mimi, along with the rest
1:44:19
of the back office, thank you for all
1:44:20
you do.
1:44:21
John, I'm 35 years old, born with a
1:44:23
congenital heart defect, and I've had three open
1:44:25
heart surgeries by the time I was 14.
1:44:28
Show off.
1:44:30
That's time for a zipper.
1:44:32
I have a horror story or two.
1:44:35
F that one surgeon, but it's not as
1:44:37
bad as everyone claims, especially with morphine and
1:44:40
you're in good hands.
1:44:42
Anyway, I wish John the best of luck
1:44:43
in his recovery and simply ask for some
1:44:46
health karma for John and some relationship karma
1:44:49
for myself.
1:44:50
Love and light, Sam Rickman.
1:44:53
You've got karma.
1:44:59
And, well, we're at Linda Lupakin, the last
1:45:01
associate executive producer for this episode from Castle
1:45:04
Rock, Colorado, and she wants Jobs Karma.
1:45:06
And as always, she says, for a competitive
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edge with a resume that gets results, go
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to ImageMakersInc.com.
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Hiring managers often decide in seconds whether a
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clearly shows leadership, results and impact.
1:45:24
Remember, that's ImageMakers Inc.
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with a K, and work with Linda Lu,
1:45:28
Duchess of Jobs, writer of winning resumes, P
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.S., great job, Mimi.
1:45:33
Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.
1:45:36
Let's vote for jobs.
1:45:38
You've got karma.
1:45:40
And that wraps up our Executive and Associate
1:45:43
Executive Producers for Episode 1852.
1:45:45
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1:45:49
you can use them anywhere you want.
1:45:51
You might even get into the immemorium dead
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Well, unlucky, I guess.
1:45:56
You can put them on IMDb.com, that's
1:45:58
clearly where they're getting all these names from.
1:46:01
And you also get that credit, they're good
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We'll thank the rest of our $50 and
1:46:20
above donors in the second segment.
1:46:23
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1:46:28
NoAgendaDonations.com, congratulations to these Executive and Associate
1:46:32
Executives.
1:46:32
Our formula is this.
1:46:34
We go out, we hit people in the
1:46:37
mouth.
1:46:42
Order!
1:46:44
Order!
1:46:45
Shut up, slave!
1:46:48
Shut up, slave!
1:46:52
Yeah!
1:46:53
Oh, this was a nice story.
1:46:58
So, the dog shooter got kicked out, Kristi
1:47:02
Noem.
1:47:02
Yeah, yep.
1:47:03
And did you see any of the confirmation
1:47:05
hearing with this new guy, Mullen?
1:47:08
I did, but he doesn't have much personality.
1:47:16
Oh, did you see the tearjerker moment?
1:47:18
No.
1:47:19
Oh, this is, I mean, I saw this,
1:47:21
I'm like, you're confirmed.
1:47:22
Oh, wait a minute, I hate Trump, I
1:47:23
can't confirm him, but wait, I'm confused.
1:47:26
So, my son was a really world-class
1:47:28
athlete, and January 17th of 2020, which, mind
1:47:33
you, was an election year, he had a
1:47:35
really serious brain injury.
1:47:36
And the President found out about it, and
1:47:38
he gave me a call immediately.
1:47:39
He didn't understand the severity of it, but
1:47:41
he heard it in my voice, and immediately
1:47:42
he went to work.
1:47:43
He called almost every day for two weeks,
1:47:45
checking on Jim.
1:47:46
And then he says, I'm going to come
1:47:47
see him.
1:47:48
The Senator told us that the short-term
1:47:49
memory loss, something would trigger it.
1:47:51
Some big event would eventually trigger where he
1:47:53
would start retaining stuff.
1:47:54
Until then, he was still having issues.
1:47:56
And the President arrived, and for the next
1:47:59
15 minutes, he did nothing but love on
1:48:02
my son.
1:48:13
That one incident jogged his memory.
1:48:16
And from then on, he started retaining things.
1:48:18
And Jim's attitude went from this, you know,
1:48:22
we're going to get through it, to this,
1:48:23
I'm going to get through it.
1:48:24
When we got released a little bit, the
1:48:25
President said, come to Mar-a-Lago and
1:48:27
see me.
1:48:28
We go down there, and it was amazing.
1:48:31
And when we're leaving, dang it, I hate
1:48:37
getting emotional.
1:48:38
See, if I talk about my kids, I
1:48:39
get emotional.
1:48:40
Other than that, you can't make me cry.
1:48:41
Anyways, he grabbed my son, and he said,
1:48:44
do you know why I love your dad?
1:48:45
Do you know why I love your dad?
1:48:47
Chris, he tells the story better than I
1:48:48
do.
1:48:48
And he goes, no, sir.
1:48:49
He goes, because he loves you, because of
1:48:52
you, because of you.
1:48:56
Man, he didn't do it for any other
1:48:58
reason.
1:48:58
I mean, here's the President of the United
1:48:59
States, and he did it just because he
1:49:01
cared.
1:49:02
I believe that story.
1:49:04
Yeah.
1:49:04
I totally believe that.
1:49:07
Yeah.
1:49:08
Aw.
1:49:09
Yeah.
1:49:09
You know, I think more people should get
1:49:12
choked up when they speak.
1:49:15
Yes.
1:49:15
I'll try and do it on Sunday.
1:49:17
It may not be easy.
1:49:18
I'm going to try and get choked up
1:49:19
and try and be all emotional about it,
1:49:21
because I'm sure John will hate it.
1:49:24
I'm sure he would.
1:49:25
He said he missed me.
1:49:26
Did you hear him?
1:49:26
You heard him.
1:49:27
He said he missed me.
1:49:27
I heard it.
1:49:28
You got it on tape, right?
1:49:29
Yeah.
1:49:30
Yeah.
1:49:30
OK.
1:49:31
Right next to, right next to.
1:49:34
I can't stand one more fucking jello cup.
1:49:38
Yeah.
1:49:38
Right next to that one.
1:49:39
I record.
1:49:40
It's all recorded.
1:49:42
All right.
1:49:42
You're out in California.
1:49:44
Let's talk.
1:49:44
Let's talk fraud.
1:49:46
But I mean, you're out in California on
1:49:47
the West Coast.
1:49:48
You're on the fraud coast.
1:49:50
Well, do we want to talk about Chavez
1:49:53
first?
1:49:54
Getting canceled?
1:49:55
Yeah, sure.
1:49:56
Whatever.
1:49:56
That's fine.
1:49:57
OK.
1:49:57
Let's start with that.
1:49:58
I have no idea what's going on.
1:50:00
Chavez getting canceled.
1:50:01
Here we go.
1:50:01
All right.
1:50:02
Let's start with the troubling details of a
1:50:03
New York Times investigation into sexual assault allegations
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against farm labor icon and Arizona native Cesar
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Chavez.
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Two women have now come forward to accuse
1:50:13
Chavez of rape, and several others say he
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sexually abused them.
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Perhaps most shocking is the account from Dolores
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Huerta, the now 95-year-old co-founder
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of the UFW.
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And now tonight, several groups and cities are
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canceling events in Chavez's name.
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Brian Webb is live to continue our coverage
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tonight.
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Hi, Christina.
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The Cesar Chavez name is all over the
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valley, from schools to dog parks, and this
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plaza in downtown Phoenix right by City Hall.
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Not to mention several events on Cesar Chavez
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Day, March 31st.
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But that is quickly changing after interviews of
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more than 60 aides and relatives, union records,
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pictures, e-mails, and recordings.
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Pictures of Cesar Chavez are already off the
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walls at El Portal Restaurant in South Phoenix.
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The owner knew, worked, and revered Chavez, Mary
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Rose Wilcox.
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Very humble, very passionate about making sure that
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social justice got carried out for all people.
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Wilcox served on the Phoenix City Council and
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was a supervisor in Maricopa County.
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But before that, she was an immigration activist
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and first met Chavez in 1971, helping organize
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unions for farm workers.
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She remembers him as humble and kind.
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Just heartbroken about him.
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You know, I'm really torn, because I really,
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you know, revered Chavez.
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And now I look at it, and I'm
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just sick about it.
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You know, I found out last night, and
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my husband and I both had a terrible
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night.
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And this morning we woke up and said,
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we have to make a statement.
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And you know, you're really torn, because there's
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two Chavez's.
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There's the one Chavez who did all these
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good things and passed all this legislation, and
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was a passionate man who won farm workers'
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rights.
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And now you find out there was another
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Chavez we didn't know.
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Is this the old Hugo Chavez?
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The old old dude?
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Cesar.
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He died.
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But how old are these women?
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In their 80s and 90s.
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Oh, okay.
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They don't sound like it.
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They don't sound that old.
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Well, I mean, it'd be a little late
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to speak up.
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So they're tearing down history.
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This is absolutely tearing down history.
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You know, I met Cesar in about 72.
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Here we go.
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Here we go.
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Of course I did.
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We are going into the story.
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Is this going to be one where your
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mom said, we're not going to Cuba?
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Is that how this ends?
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No, no.
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Cesar was from Arizona.
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No, he was okay.
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I mean, it was, my boyfriend at the
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time's father worked for the co-op stores,
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and he was big on the civil rights
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movement, and Cesar, he was helping Cesar.
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So this is a prime example of tearing
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down history for a reason.
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Yes.
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So I start looking around to try to
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figure out why, and it becomes very obvious
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when you listen to some of his old
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speeches, because- Oh, yeah.
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He hated illegal immigration.
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So I have a 1972 interview and a
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1974 interview.
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All right.
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72.
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We've gotten very few.
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And then all of a sudden, yesterday morning,
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they brought in 220 wetbacks.
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These are the illegals from Mexico.
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Now, there's no way to defend against that
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kind of strike breaking.
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And so therefore, the only way to win
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strikes is by then taking our fight to
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the citizens, to the people in the city
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especially, and have them help us boycott those
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products that were striking.
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And we need that.
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And that's the only way we've been able
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to get contracts.
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And I venture to say that without that,
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we couldn't possibly organize unions.
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So what would happen was they would, at
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the time the grapes were a big thing,
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boycott grapes.
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But the workers had stopped working in an
1:53:52
attempt to force the owners and everybody in
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the area to give them decent wages.
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So the next interview actually tells really what
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happened.
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It's a great interview.
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This question of the illegals is I find
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very interesting.
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Would you say that it's at this particular
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moment as important as any of the other
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problems facing the union?
1:54:16
Oh, yes.
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In the last three weeks, it's become...
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In the last two weeks, it has become
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an emergency for us.
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There's an awful lot of illegals coming in.
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By the hundreds, by the thousands, our people
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are not only in some of the crews
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where there's now strike breaking, some of those
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crews are 100% illegals outright, openly, with
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no attempt to disguise it.
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And so it's so bad now that we
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estimate 60 to 70% of the farm
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workers in California are the resident worker, the
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citizen is out of a job because of
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the wetbacks.
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They're coming in by the thousands, just unbelievable.
1:54:53
See, they're coming in with a consent of
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the Immigration Service, which is part of the
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Department of Justice.
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How else could they come?
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We, for instance, know that if you go
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to Coachella, you go around the El Paso
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area, the second day immigration checkpoints have been
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unmanned now for, oh, at least three, four
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weeks.
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They're closed.
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At night, they're dark.
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There aren't any patrolmen there.
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It's a gimmick.
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We think that it's a prelude at the
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beginning to a big drive on the part
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of the administration and the Mexican government to
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bring the Bracero program again.
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It's a vicious attack on the local worker,
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and it's just one of those things that
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every business thinks they can get away with
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it, and our job is to inform the
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whole country what's happening, together with a boycott,
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and solve it that way.
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Who was president then?
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It was Nixon and then Gerald Ford.
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So the Bracero program was started after World
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War II to bring contract workers up from
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Mexico, and then they could stay for a
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visa, then they had to go back.
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And that happened all the time.
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Yeah.
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But in this case, he was for the
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farm workers who were, you know.
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Here legally.
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Here legally, right.
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So I think this is an attempt to
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completely erase his memory.
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It's completely erased how he began a labor
1:56:22
movement.
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But when I start looking around, I think
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that Martin Luther King Jr. should be a
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little afraid.
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Can you play that clip?
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I have a dream that my four little
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children will one day live in a nation
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where they will not be judged by the
1:56:38
color of their skin, but by the content
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of their character.
1:56:41
I have a dream today.
1:56:43
Martin Luther King Jr. remains one of the
1:56:45
most revered figures of the 20th century.
1:56:47
A minister, a Nobel Peace Prize laureate, and
1:56:50
the voice of the civil rights movement whose
1:56:52
I have a dream speech continues to echo
1:56:54
through history.
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Yet behind the pulpit and marches lay a
1:56:57
private life now shadowed by controversy.
1:56:59
Recently unearthed FBI files and reports from the
1:57:02
National Archives have resurfaced shocking allegations of King's
1:57:06
serial infidelity.
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He had sexual encounters with up to 40
1:57:10
women and was present during acts of abuse
1:57:12
by others.
1:57:13
Yeah.
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Why do you think that?
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Who do you think is behind this?
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Why?
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Why are they doing this?
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Hello?
1:57:24
No, I lost you, Mimi.
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I see you're connected.
1:57:28
Hello?
1:57:30
Hello?
1:57:31
Hello?
1:57:32
Hello, Mimi?
1:57:33
Oh, there you are.
1:57:33
There you are.
1:57:34
You back?
1:57:35
No.
1:57:36
No.
1:57:37
No, you've muted yourself now.
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What happened?
1:57:40
That was odd.
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Hello?
1:57:43
I see you're still connected.
1:57:45
Yeah, you're mute.
1:57:45
Now you've muted yourself.
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So click on the green microphone and unmute
1:57:49
yourself.
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Hello?
1:57:56
Podcaster down!
1:57:57
Podcaster down!
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You've got to, you've got to click unmute
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on the green button.
1:58:08
Yeah, are you okay?
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Now I'm concerned, because I know you can
1:58:15
hear me, so you've muted yourself, but what?
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Oh, oh no!
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She's left!
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All right, we'll set a time marker here,
1:58:23
and we'll see what happens.
1:58:24
There we go.
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Connecting?
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Ah, you're still muted.
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Click the green microphone button, or the white
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microphone button.
1:58:37
Hmm.
1:58:39
All right, there I am.
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Am I back on?
1:58:40
Yeah, what happened?
1:58:42
Solar flares.
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Oh, okay.
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Solar flare.
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So my question was, why do you think
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this is happening right now?
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I think it's happening because of the whole
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ice thing.
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They can't have a hero who's talking about
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wetbacks and illegal immigrants.
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I think that's part of it.
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And I think that it's just heavy-handed.
1:59:07
It's like, are we trying to destroy the
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Farm Workers Union?
1:59:11
Are we trying to...
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I think it's a backlash against him.
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You know, but it's like, let's tear down
1:59:19
history.
1:59:20
Let's rewrite history, because I'm seeing history being
1:59:22
rewritten every which way.
1:59:24
Well, hold on, but this is true history,
1:59:26
is it not?
1:59:28
What part?
1:59:28
The women who are 80 years old suddenly
1:59:30
remembering that they were...
1:59:32
Yeah, that's probably true.
1:59:37
The Martin Luther King stuff is probably true.
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I mean, there's lots of evidence of that.
1:59:42
Yeah, and let's wait until people are dead
1:59:43
and they can't defend themselves.
1:59:46
Well, yeah, that's what you do.
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You know, I find it to be a
1:59:50
little...
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Yeah, I know.
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It's just, I think it's just, it's more...
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I think it's falsely...
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Like, we've had a lot of things up
1:59:59
here where entire narratives have been changed in
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history.
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And I think that, you know, rearranging, rewriting
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history is not a good thing.
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But that, you know, it plays into, you
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know, all the fraud.
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Okay.
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Well, I'll just say that, you know, I
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like it when history is...
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When a different history emerges, such as we
2:00:24
didn't land on the moon.
2:00:25
I like it when that emerges.
2:00:27
I like it when those things happen.
2:00:29
Now, this doesn't bother me that much.
2:00:34
To me, it's not quite the same as
2:00:36
taking down statues of Washington and Jefferson or,
2:00:40
you know, that's a little different.
2:00:44
Do you...
2:00:45
The street names are getting changed.
2:00:47
They took...
2:00:47
They're taking away his day that they just...
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Obama was the one who gave Caesar Chavez
2:00:53
Day on March 31st.
2:00:56
Oh, well, okay.
2:00:56
There you go.
2:00:57
They're renaming schools and dog parks.
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I mean, it is completely erasing him from
2:01:01
history.
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It's not adding a footnote.
2:01:03
Oh, okay.
2:01:04
All right.
2:01:04
No, I disagree with that.
2:01:06
I don't think that's necessary.
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That's interesting.
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I've not picked up on this happening at
2:01:12
all.
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You know, there are tons and tons of...
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Fraud that's going on is unbelievable to me.
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Yes.
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Tina's been keeping me up to speed on
2:01:24
that a little bit.
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So, there was a petition fraud in California.
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It's ABC.
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All right.
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A video making its rounds on social media
2:01:31
appears to show people getting paid $5 to
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sign a ballot initiative.
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And it has people really criticizing the signature
2:01:39
-gathering process.
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Take a look at this video.
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This was posted on X by JJ Smith,
2:01:44
who tells us that he saw this happen
2:01:46
in San Francisco.
2:01:47
He says that he noticed a line of
2:01:49
people waiting to sign what appears to be
2:01:51
ballot initiatives at a table.
2:01:53
One of the people in line tells him
2:01:55
that you can receive $5 if you sign
2:01:57
the petition.
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Now, in the video, a woman behind the
2:02:00
table appears to tell people what name and
2:02:03
address to sign on that petition.
2:02:05
Smith says the entire encounter made him question
2:02:08
the legality of the process.
2:02:09
They was coaching them to what name they
2:02:12
signed, what address and what city.
2:02:15
And right there that rang the bell in
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my head is like, that turned on a
2:02:18
light in my head, like, that's not legal.
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Why not sign your own name?
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Building a Better California is a policy organization
2:02:25
who says this was one of their campaign
2:02:28
documents that was being signed.
2:02:30
A spokesperson with the organization says they are
2:02:33
outraged and do not tolerate this type of
2:02:35
fraudulent activity in the signature-gathering process.
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Yeah, this is one part of it.
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The Medicare fraud is what's most unbelievable.
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And unfortunately, they're throwing people in jail who
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are just pawns in the whole game.
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Well, let's go back.
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OK.
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The billionaire's tax in California, they have to
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come up with 800,000 valid signatures by
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June.
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Oh, I see what's happening.
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The whole initiative is sponsored by the SEIUHW,
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which is a California-based union of over
2:03:17
100,000 health care workers.
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The group's leadership usually accuses corporations of Medicare
2:03:23
fraud, but they've also had a lot of
2:03:25
internal allegations of corruption, including in 2023 when
2:03:29
the SEIU vice president was convicted in federal
2:03:32
court of 14 counts, which included embezzlement of
2:03:36
union funds, tax violations, and mail fraud.
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Oh, we're gambling.
2:03:39
Which leads us right into Nick Shirley just
2:03:42
dropped a new video.
2:03:43
Yeah.
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Oh, you said dropped.
2:03:45
OK, he dropped.
2:03:46
Yes, he dropped a new video.
2:03:47
Do you want to do this billionaire's tax
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first?
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You know, I'm going to leave that for
2:03:51
John because he'll love to go into that
2:03:52
more because this is not going to go
2:03:54
away.
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OK.
2:03:55
So, which Nick Shirley?
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Nick Shirley knew on California fraud.
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California may have the largest amount of fraud
2:04:02
in the country as California is the state
2:04:04
with the highest taxes and collects more money
2:04:07
than any other state in America.
2:04:09
It is filled with fraud.
2:04:11
California's version of Medicaid called Medi-Cal has
2:04:14
more than doubled since 2022 from $108 billion
2:04:18
to a proposed $222 billion in 2026.
2:04:22
Their population, however, has not grown exponentially.
2:04:26
However, their spending has.
2:04:29
There has been a thousand percent increase in
2:04:31
hospice care in the Los Angeles County.
2:04:33
In fact, one out of every ten dollars
2:04:35
of home health care in America is spent
2:04:37
in Los Angeles.
2:04:39
On top of that, their government funded daycare
2:04:41
programs are filled with violations while they continue
2:04:44
to give money to these fraudsters.
2:04:46
It is estimated that the fraud in California
2:04:48
could be in the hundreds of billions of
2:04:51
dollars.
2:04:51
Yeah.
2:04:52
Yeah.
2:04:54
Good reason to tax billionaires.
2:04:56
So Nick went to an old motel that
2:04:58
has been converted into office spaces.
2:05:00
There were 80 some hospices in this one
2:05:03
place.
2:05:04
Some were empty, you know, just like the
2:05:06
whole thing with child care in Minnesota.
2:05:08
Lots of expensive cars in the parking lot.
2:05:11
So then later in his video, he does
2:05:13
outline how this works.
2:05:16
And that's the Nick Shirley outlines.
2:05:18
The way these hospices are able to enroll
2:05:21
these people and collect money from Medicare and
2:05:23
MediCal here inside of California is they collect
2:05:26
the Medicare numbers from individuals and then sign
2:05:29
them up for hospice without them even knowing.
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I actually went and spoke with a professional
2:05:34
inside of the medical industry to get her
2:05:36
opinion on how this all works.
2:05:38
We're seeing all these hospices pop up here.
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Why is hospice and home health care such
2:05:43
a booming business right now?
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I think it's become a trend of fraud.
2:05:47
Honestly, has like I heard about this about
2:05:50
five years ago during covid that people were
2:05:52
building hospices and selling them.
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It was like a business.
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These people made.
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So it's an easy, I think, easy way
2:05:58
to build Medicare with their people's beneficiary numbers
2:06:01
that people can easily steal and even purchase
2:06:04
and buy.
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They buy numbers from people and tell them,
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give me your Medicare beneficiary number and I
2:06:10
will give you something in return.
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And what does that mean?
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Give you my beneficiary.
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So there's an ID that you have.
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Medicare gives you Medicare is for anybody 65
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and over.
2:06:17
So they'll give you a Medicare ID number.
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And that number is what's used to build
2:06:22
Medicare.
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So essentially, if they can get a number
2:06:24
from somebody, it's almost like getting a credit
2:06:26
card number.
2:06:26
And then from there, they can continue to
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bill and bill and bill and get that
2:06:29
Medicare money.
2:06:30
Exactly.
2:06:30
It's actually more beneficial than finding a credit
2:06:32
card.
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These days, anybody can get a hospice license.
2:06:35
Actually, you don't need to be a physician.
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You don't need to be a doctor.
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You can apply and get a hospice license
2:06:40
in the state of California.
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They bill, they take the Medicare numbers, they
2:06:44
bill Medicare, the Medicare sends them a check
2:06:46
right away.
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It's an easy process.
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And what kind of people are doing this
2:06:51
in California?
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Regular old Californians?
2:06:54
Well, so far it's been identified as being
2:06:56
the Armenian mob and some other mobs.
2:06:59
But what's really interesting about all this.
2:07:02
So, you know, Nick Shirley is saying, oh,
2:07:03
I just discovered this.
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Except California.
2:07:07
And I actually sent it to you for
2:07:08
the show notes.
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California's own fraud investigation department, their auditing department,
2:07:15
found that the state's licensure and oversight of
2:07:18
hospice agencies in 2019 that Los Angeles County
2:07:23
has experienced a 1,500 percent increase in
2:07:26
its number of hospice agencies since 2010.
2:07:29
It had more than six and a half
2:07:31
times the nationwide average of hospice agencies relative
2:07:34
to its age population in 2019.
2:07:38
They found indicators of large scale fraud that
2:07:42
likely include fraudulent billing to Medicare and Medi
2:07:44
-Cal, including the apparent use of stolen identities
2:07:48
of medical personnel to obtain licenses.
2:07:50
So they they knew that in 2019, a
2:07:54
big report was done in 2020.
2:07:56
But meanwhile, we have Newsom, who said 10
2:07:59
months ago, part one.
2:08:02
So we're doge, but better.
2:08:04
And we've been doge, but better for literally
2:08:09
six years.
2:08:10
Doge, but better.
2:08:11
Yes.
2:08:12
Doge, but better.
2:08:14
And then he has more word salad on
2:08:16
part two.
2:08:17
You know, you can go back.
2:08:19
There's amazing that we still have the tapes
2:08:23
of our announcements around ODI and all of
2:08:28
these reforms and efficiencies that we've been advancing
2:08:31
for years and years and years.
2:08:32
It's just, again, difficult to sort of break
2:08:35
out of that.
2:08:36
You know, the attention challenge.
2:08:38
OK, so you've been watching Nick Shirley for
2:08:43
a while, I believe.
2:08:45
For two years, at least.
2:08:46
Yeah.
2:08:47
So I was first introduced to him with
2:08:50
the Minnesota Leering Center videos.
2:08:53
Yep.
2:08:54
Yep.
2:08:54
And he had this guy next to him,
2:08:56
Bob.
2:08:57
You know, Bob is never introduced to us.
2:08:59
Bob's got all the paperwork.
2:09:01
I think it was Dave.
2:09:02
Dave.
2:09:03
I think it was Dave.
2:09:03
Bob, Dave, Pete.
2:09:05
Same thing.
2:09:05
He's got all the information.
2:09:07
Is this the same?
2:09:09
Because I suspect that someone saw what Nick
2:09:12
Shirley was doing and went, this is a
2:09:14
great way to to show this fraud because
2:09:18
it never works when you get Pam Bondi
2:09:20
standing up there in front of the press.
2:09:22
And, you know, it doesn't work.
2:09:23
But this is a this is a stealth
2:09:25
way of getting people outraged.
2:09:27
Does he have another Dave, Bob or Pete
2:09:29
with him when he's out in California?
2:09:31
He has he during the video, he has
2:09:33
a couple of different people.
2:09:35
What I think is just emotional support.
2:09:36
He's got his I mean, some of the
2:09:38
situations he's getting himself into looks really scary
2:09:42
to me.
2:09:43
But this is all common knowledge.
2:09:45
I mean, this is like there is a
2:09:47
there is a government report from 2019 that
2:09:50
was published in 2020 that says, oh, yeah,
2:09:52
this is a huge problem.
2:09:53
There are other podcasters, video podcasters, whatever you
2:09:58
call them, YouTubers, YouTubers, YouTubers who've been putting
2:10:02
up information all along but couldn't get any
2:10:06
traction because, you know, it's he's got the
2:10:09
best platform.
2:10:10
Why?
2:10:11
But why?
2:10:12
Why?
2:10:12
Why did this?
2:10:12
I'm telling you that this there's someone on
2:10:16
the inside working with him, giving him stuff,
2:10:19
helping him, showing him juicing something.
2:10:24
Well, well, actually, somebody asked.
2:10:26
I wonder.
2:10:26
I think it's probably Trump.
2:10:28
I have a not you.
2:10:29
We Trump personally or just the administration.
2:10:31
Trump explains the money.
2:10:33
Oh, OK.
2:10:35
Here we go.
2:10:35
That's what I'm talking about.
2:10:36
You said during your statement that this type
2:10:40
of fraud, the corruption is the type of
2:10:42
thing that can shred the fabric of a
2:10:44
nation.
2:10:45
Why do you suppose that the leaders of
2:10:47
recent memory haven't looked at the systemic amount
2:10:49
of progress that took place?
2:10:52
And because they're crooked.
2:10:53
They make money.
2:10:55
They gain power.
2:10:56
They use it for power.
2:10:58
Like with the Somalians, they vote in a
2:11:00
block.
2:11:00
Hundred percent.
2:11:02
They make a deal with the Somalians.
2:11:04
They all vote because they're on a gravy
2:11:06
train.
2:11:08
It's it's company.
2:11:10
It's it's money first, power second.
2:11:13
A lot of people say power first.
2:11:14
Now it's money first.
2:11:16
Yeah, I'm telling you this.
2:11:18
This this Nick Shirley pop has Trump written
2:11:22
all over it.
2:11:23
Yes, absolutely.
2:11:24
It does.
2:11:25
And I think it's great.
2:11:26
He's got the audience.
2:11:27
He's got the eyes.
2:11:28
And he's such an unassuming little.
2:11:31
Oh, he's so sweet.
2:11:32
He's such a sweet boy.
2:11:33
Yes.
2:11:34
He's having a birthday next month.
2:11:35
I know he's finally going to be older.
2:11:37
Oh, wow.
2:11:38
Oh, was he going to be 12?
2:11:40
Yeah, I think 24.
2:11:42
I think it's a dynamite.
2:11:44
This is the future.
2:11:45
It's a dynamite way to expose fraud through
2:11:47
a YouTuber who's out there with the with
2:11:50
the one camera.
2:11:51
You know, actually, I think he has to.
2:11:53
I've seen him with two shots.
2:11:54
Sometimes two.
2:11:54
Yeah, it's great.
2:11:55
It's a great way to do it.
2:11:57
And man, it is rampant.
2:11:58
And yes, it's hundreds of billions of dollars,
2:12:00
maybe maybe a trillion a year.
2:12:03
Who knows?
2:12:04
Which explains which explains why the billionaire's tax
2:12:07
is such a big deal to California, which
2:12:10
if you want, you can certainly play that
2:12:12
billionaire tax explanation because it's it's pretty much
2:12:15
how much we're losing in Medicare fraud.
2:12:18
Taxes for health care or would it backfire?
2:12:21
That's the debate behind a proposed wealth tax
2:12:24
that could be on the California ballot this
2:12:25
November.
2:12:26
Supporters have to collect about 875,000 signatures
2:12:30
by mid-April just to get it on
2:12:31
the ballot.
2:12:32
But it's already caused a ton of grief
2:12:34
among big names in tech and finance, and
2:12:36
they're not the only ones.
2:12:38
Even Governor Gavin Newsom has come out against
2:12:39
it, saying it would hurt the state's finances
2:12:41
in the long run.
2:12:42
It's a badly drafted effort.
2:12:47
It's already had an outsized impact on the
2:12:50
state.
2:12:50
To get a full understanding, let's let's back
2:12:52
up to step one.
2:12:54
How would the tax actually work?
2:12:55
Could it work?
2:12:57
Well, it's a one-time tax of 5
2:12:59
% of wealth.
2:13:00
Individuals or couples worth more than $1 billion
2:13:02
as of the end of this year would
2:13:04
have to pay it.
2:13:05
That's about 200 people in the entire state.
2:13:08
If you're a billionaire and you live here,
2:13:10
you'd be subject to the proposed tax.
2:13:12
It covers stocks, cash, businesses, just about everything.
2:13:16
What it doesn't cover is real estate, and
2:13:18
you could exempt up to $5 million of
2:13:21
personal property like art or a private jet.
2:13:24
90% of the tax would help cover
2:13:27
federal cuts to healthcare.
2:13:28
The other 10% would help fund education
2:13:31
and food assistance.
2:13:33
Unsurprisingly, a lot of people in the tech
2:13:35
industry do not like this one bit.
2:13:37
One of their biggest claims is that it
2:13:38
would cause the wealthy to move to Nevada
2:13:40
or Texas or Florida.
2:13:42
Here's the problem if that happens.
2:13:44
According to state data, more than 40%
2:13:46
of California's income tax comes from the top
2:13:49
1% of income earners.
2:13:51
So, if lots of the state's rich residents
2:13:54
did leave, California's bank account would get smaller.
2:13:58
Would they actually leave?
2:13:59
It's hard to say.
2:14:01
There's some research that indicates that rich people
2:14:03
actually rarely move in response to new taxes,
2:14:06
and that's because they tend to depend pretty
2:14:09
heavily on social and professional ties to, say,
2:14:13
Silicon Valley.
2:14:14
But also, we've never had a wealth tax
2:14:15
like this before.
2:14:17
Most of the European countries that have tried
2:14:19
it eventually got rid of it.
2:14:21
I gotta show you how to use Adobe
2:14:23
to remove that horrible music.
2:14:25
I know.
2:14:25
I'm sorry.
2:14:26
No, no, it's okay.
2:14:27
It's just like, ugh.
2:14:29
Interesting.
2:14:30
I think they would move.
2:14:31
I think that...
2:14:32
I do too.
2:14:33
I mean, they're already...
2:14:34
But oddly enough, we only need this tax
2:14:37
because of so much fraud.
2:14:39
The money's just flowing out.
2:14:40
Yes.
2:14:41
Next time someone complains about the $3.8
2:14:43
billion we give to Israel that they spend
2:14:45
on our war stuff, remind them of this.
2:14:49
Yeah.
2:14:50
In every state.
2:14:51
Every state this exists.
2:14:53
That's the problem.
2:14:54
Or every blue state.
2:14:55
What is the total Medicare...
2:14:58
I mean, what does the federal government pay
2:15:03
annually in...
2:15:04
Let me see.
2:15:06
Let me ask the robot.
2:15:07
What is the annual federal expenditure...
2:15:13
I'm going to use some big words.
2:15:16
Expenditure for health care from the...
2:15:21
Okay.
2:15:22
For health care.
2:15:23
Boom.
2:15:23
All right.
2:15:24
Let's see.
2:15:25
All right, robot.
2:15:26
I put it in thinking mode, so it'll
2:15:28
take a second.
2:15:29
I think real hard.
2:15:30
I like who's pushing this tax the most
2:15:33
is Bernie Sanders.
2:15:34
Oh, my God.
2:15:35
He's everywhere.
2:15:35
Well, of course.
2:15:36
But what...
2:15:37
Here it is.
2:15:39
Oh, man.
2:15:40
The most recent completed fiscal year, 2025, the
2:15:45
US federal government spent approximately...
2:15:47
How much do you think?
2:15:49
Trillions.
2:15:50
$2.03 trillion.
2:15:54
That's more than a quarter of the total
2:15:57
budget.
2:15:58
Now, that can't all be fraud.
2:16:01
No, but if a hefty portion of it
2:16:04
is...
2:16:05
Yeah, we can buy some more bombs for
2:16:07
Iran.
2:16:07
It's great.
2:16:08
There you go.
2:16:08
Yeah, let's bomb them.
2:16:10
Hey, everybody.
2:16:23
That's right.
2:16:24
We thanked our executive and associate executive producers
2:16:27
earlier.
2:16:28
Now, we are going to thank everybody who
2:16:30
supported the show, $50 or above.
2:16:32
And I think we also have some notes
2:16:34
to read, so let me get the spreadsheet.
2:16:36
And away we go.
2:16:39
Ashley Ostgen, I think it is.
2:16:42
Ostgen?
2:16:43
Sounds right.
2:16:44
From Flower Mound, Texas.
2:16:46
$188.33. Give John a reason to live
2:16:49
eights in there.
2:16:51
Christy Jensen, $153.96. Oh, it's $146.19.
2:16:57
Good job, Mimi.
2:16:58
$80.08 plus $66.11 for the ladies.
2:17:02
Yes, dangling balls and double dicks in case
2:17:04
you forgot.
2:17:05
And the crappy PayPal fees.
2:17:08
ITM.
2:17:08
Christy, Christy.
2:17:09
All right, Christy.
2:17:10
Ladies taking over with your donation amounts.
2:17:13
Love that.
2:17:15
Dame Mary Moon and Sir Jew Claw.
2:17:17
And they sent in a get well card
2:17:20
for John with $150.
2:17:22
John, we're wishing you a speedy and easy
2:17:23
recovery from South Louisiana.
2:17:26
Plus, this donation is a birthday call out
2:17:27
for my smoking hot hubby.
2:17:29
He celebrated on March 14th.
2:17:31
Dame Mary Moon and Sir Jew Claw.
2:17:33
I wonder what the Sir Jew Claw is
2:17:35
all about.
2:17:37
I don't know.
2:17:38
What is a Jew Claw?
2:17:39
I don't know.
2:17:40
Sir Led.
2:17:41
Sir Led.
2:17:42
$130.03. That's $123.45 plus fees.
2:17:46
$123.45 plus fees.
2:17:47
Got it.
2:17:48
Nathan Cochran from Mercy Me.
2:17:50
Go check out their movie.
2:17:52
I can only imagine two.
2:17:54
Now in theaters, I think.
2:17:55
Or streaming soon.
2:17:56
$123.45. He's a knight.
2:17:59
Sir Schwartz from Denmark.
2:18:01
Langa.
2:18:02
I think.
2:18:02
Langa.
2:18:03
Well done, Mimi.
2:18:03
Stepping up and handling John at the same
2:18:05
time.
2:18:06
Yes.
2:18:06
Health karma for John.
2:18:07
We'll do it at the end.
2:18:09
And get up onto the pod machine.
2:18:10
That is Sir Schwartz of the woke bashing
2:18:13
culprits.
2:18:14
Baron of Jutland.
2:18:15
GMO Little Mermaid.
2:18:17
All right.
2:18:18
Sir Radical from Muskegon, Michigan.
2:18:23
Hoping $100.
2:18:24
Hoping for a speedy recovery, John.
2:18:26
Sir Radical.
2:18:27
Black Knight of the Holy Orbs.
2:18:29
Kyle Winfield.
2:18:30
Cedar Park, Texas.
2:18:30
Been listening for 10 plus years.
2:18:32
Wouldn't be who I am without the show.
2:18:33
John, please get well soon.
2:18:35
Then we have Baronetess Denise.
2:18:39
And she sent in a note with nice
2:18:41
handwriting.
2:18:43
John, $100.
2:18:44
Prayers for you and your family during this
2:18:45
tough time.
2:18:46
Get well.
2:18:46
Tough time.
2:18:47
He's had it easy.
2:18:48
You heard him.
2:18:49
Get well soon.
2:18:50
I had a tough time.
2:18:51
Yes, with me.
2:18:52
Get well soon.
2:18:53
We love you and miss you.
2:18:54
Although Mimi is doing great.
2:18:56
Adam, good job at holding down the fort.
2:18:58
Blessings.
2:18:58
Baronetess Denise.
2:18:59
Queen of the Cobalt Programmers.
2:19:02
Wow.
2:19:03
And then Old Guy in Minnesota Nuts.
2:19:06
Sends $100.
2:19:07
And he has a note here as well.
2:19:09
And also nice handwriting, but slanted to the
2:19:11
left.
2:19:12
John, get better.
2:19:14
I miss you.
2:19:14
You are lucky.
2:19:16
Sounds like you have a wonderful family.
2:19:21
Old Guy in Minnesota Nuts.
2:19:23
That's what it says, yes.
2:19:25
Todd in Miami Springs, Florida.
2:19:27
These are the 8888s.
2:19:28
Still coming in.
2:19:29
Beautiful.
2:19:31
John, hell of a way to get some
2:19:32
R&R, ITM.
2:19:34
Luis Ruiz in Portage, Indiana.
2:19:37
8888.
2:19:37
Adam and Mimi, can I get a de
2:19:38
-douching please as my first donation?
2:19:41
You've been de-douched.
2:19:43
Wishing JCD a speedy recovery.
2:19:45
I woke up three times besides.
2:19:48
Up to threes.
2:19:50
Oh, I woke up to threes beside.
2:19:54
Bedside, probably.
2:19:55
I think so.
2:19:56
And decided to donate.
2:19:57
Yes, I'll keep it short.
2:19:59
Yes, thank you.
2:20:00
Sir Shelfwood in IJmuiden in the Netherlands.
2:20:04
Birthday donation.
2:20:04
Wishing myself a belated happy birthday.
2:20:06
Sunday the 15th.
2:20:07
Forgot to donate in time due to working
2:20:09
night shifts.
2:20:10
Get well soon, John.
2:20:11
And Mike Valak in Chattanooga, Tennessee with the
2:20:15
8888s.
2:20:16
James Varga, East Stroudsburg, Pennsylvania.
2:20:19
Waiting to get off John's block list.
2:20:21
Good luck with that.
2:20:22
Me too.
2:20:23
DeSoto Drone in South Haven, Missouri.
2:20:27
8888s.
2:20:28
Randy Darrow, Burke, Virginia.
2:20:29
I don't always donate.
2:20:30
No, no.
2:20:31
South Haven, Mississippi.
2:20:32
Mississippi.
2:20:33
MS?
2:20:34
MS, Mississippi.
2:20:36
Yes, I always get confused.
2:20:38
Randy Darrow, Burke, Virginia.
2:20:39
I don't always donate.
2:20:40
But when I do, I prefer no agenda
2:20:42
with John.
2:20:43
Stay cranking, my friend.
2:20:45
DeMaria and Sir Mark of the Greenwoods in
2:20:47
Indiana.
2:20:48
John, glad you went in for the old
2:20:49
change.
2:20:50
Was able to get the valve job too.
2:20:51
Restart the clocks.
2:20:52
Four more years.
2:20:53
DeMaria, Sir Mark of the Greenwoods.
2:20:55
Gwen Sobieski in Kettering, Ohio.
2:20:58
These are all 88s.
2:20:59
B-dubs.
2:21:00
Springfield, Oregon.
2:21:01
When you read this, it will most likely
2:21:02
be in the middle of an interview with
2:21:03
an IT help desk job.
2:21:05
I want some jobs, karma, and health karma
2:21:07
for JCD.
2:21:07
Yes, we'll put that all at the end.
2:21:10
73s.
2:21:11
KM7BPH.
2:21:12
B-dubs.
2:21:13
Kurt Kiefer, Austin, Texas.
2:21:15
Roderick Brown, Mermaid in Prince Edward Island, Canada.
2:21:19
Daniel Smith, Dayton, Ohio.
2:21:22
John, I don't want to lose Mimi, as
2:21:24
I'm sure you don't either.
2:21:24
But please come back.
2:21:26
Mimi, please, please, please come do a show
2:21:27
once in a while.
2:21:28
You're a natural.
2:21:29
Have great life stories we all enjoy about
2:21:32
Jim Morrison.
2:21:33
A brush with greatness.
2:21:37
Baroness Monica, Drayton Valley, Alberta, Canada.
2:21:40
Welcome back Sunday, John.
2:21:42
Thanks for Mimi.
2:21:43
Great job, Baroness Monica.
2:21:45
Viscountess Dame Knight.
2:21:47
Dame Knight.
2:21:48
Who is it?
2:21:49
Viscountess Dame Knight.
2:21:51
Love you, Mimi.
2:21:53
88, 88.
2:21:53
PJ, New York, New York.
2:21:54
88, 88.
2:21:56
Beth Elliot, Coryton, Tennessee.
2:21:59
And she also sent in a note.
2:22:02
Get well.
2:22:02
Nice big get well card.
2:22:05
Oh, this is 8080, actually.
2:22:07
There you go.
2:22:07
Get well soon, John.
2:22:09
Big heart.
2:22:10
Looking forward to hearing your voice soon from
2:22:14
Beth.
2:22:15
Okay, there we go.
2:22:16
Kevin McLaughlin.
2:22:17
There he is with the 8008 with the
2:22:19
boob donation.
2:22:20
He is the Archduke of Luna and lover
2:22:22
of America and boobs.
2:22:23
He says, God bless America and the No
2:22:25
Agenda family.
2:22:25
F-cancer karma for those who need it,
2:22:27
please.
2:22:27
So we got health karma, job karma, and
2:22:29
F-cancer karma all coming up.
2:22:31
Sarah Gardner, Wilmington, North Carolina, also with the
2:22:33
boobs.
2:22:34
Sir Kevin Dills from Huntersville, North Carolina.
2:22:37
Thank you for your courage, Mimi.
2:22:38
Nice boobs.
2:22:39
There we go.
2:22:39
808.
2:22:40
Well, thank you.
2:22:41
Well, that's, yes, the donation.
2:22:43
Ray Fleischman, Davenport, Florida.
2:22:46
Anonymous.
2:22:47
Oh, source code days.
2:22:48
Yes, from the source code days.
2:22:51
There you go.
2:22:52
Bruce Rogers, Alton, Illinois, also with a lot
2:22:54
of boobs today.
2:22:55
James Little, Alameda, California.
2:22:57
Thank you, Mimi.
2:22:58
I think this is because of you, Mimi.
2:22:59
We got all these boob donations.
2:23:01
This is good.
2:23:02
Sir Kurt, Austin, Texas.
2:23:04
Love you, Mimi.
2:23:04
You've been absolutely spooktacular.
2:23:07
Wishing your asset a speedy recovery.
2:23:09
Handle him with care.
2:23:10
Okay, that's enough.
2:23:10
Love you all, Sir Kurt.
2:23:11
Sir Kurt.
2:23:14
Craig Walton, Austin, Texas.
2:23:17
That's Baron Craig.
2:23:18
Greg.
2:23:19
I think it's Greg Walton, not Craig.
2:23:21
There's something got misspelled.
2:23:22
Here's Greg Walton, I think.
2:23:24
Okay.
2:23:24
I feel bad now.
2:23:26
How about just C.
2:23:27
Walton?
2:23:28
How about that?
2:23:28
No, but I know him and I feel
2:23:30
bad now.
2:23:30
Now I'm confused.
2:23:32
Lester Kousty, Kingman, Arizona.
2:23:34
All boobs.
2:23:35
Sir Kadia, Peoria, Arizona.
2:23:36
What a treat to hear Mimi these last
2:23:38
few weeks.
2:23:38
I'm impressed with her.
2:23:39
Loved her stories about early life in Iran.
2:23:41
I can't tell you, Mrs. Buzzkill, as you
2:23:43
are definitely not a buzzkill.
2:23:45
Sir Kadia.
2:23:46
Donald Rolfe in Parkston, South Dakota.
2:23:49
Still all boobs.
2:23:50
Sir Skip Logic, Spring Hill, Tennessee.
2:23:53
I would listen to Mimi read names from
2:23:55
the phone book.
2:23:56
All right.
2:23:57
I'll call him.
2:23:57
I'll call him later.
2:23:58
Allison Stang in Champlin, Minnesota.
2:24:02
Boob donation.
2:24:03
Came for Adam, stayed for John.
2:24:04
Donated for Mimi.
2:24:06
Hashtag too many eggs.
2:24:07
All right.
2:24:08
And our final boob donation from Carol Molinari
2:24:11
in Burl Verde, Texas.
2:24:14
Then we go to the 6996 inverted.
2:24:17
There's Dame Becky from Arlington, Washington.
2:24:19
Small boobs from Sir Kevin O'Brien in
2:24:21
Chicago, Illinois.
2:24:23
6006.
2:24:24
Sir Glenn, Raleigh, North Carolina.
2:24:26
5888.
2:24:27
That get well soon, John.
2:24:28
Andrew Garland, Muncie, Indiana.
2:24:30
5623.
2:24:31
5555 from Edward Chidjee in Taunton.
2:24:35
That is in the UK.
2:24:36
Get well, John.
2:24:37
A heart attack after appearing in the Epstein
2:24:39
Files.
2:24:39
Coincidence?
2:24:40
I think not.
2:24:42
Edward Chidjee gave me a pronunciation guide.
2:24:44
Thank you, sir.
2:24:45
Brough, Lancaster, New Hampshire.
2:24:48
Jobs Karma for a struggling charter school teacher,
2:24:51
please.
2:24:51
And thank you.
2:24:51
Yes, coming at the end.
2:24:53
Double nickels on the dime from Dean Roker.
2:24:56
Sarah Steinlein in Brentwood, Tennessee.
2:24:58
That fine wine.
2:24:59
Steinlein.
2:24:59
Got it.
2:25:00
$55.10. Double nickels on the dime.
2:25:02
55 from Adrian Christensen in Lincoln, Nebraska.
2:25:05
Kent O'Rourke from Frostburg, Maryland.
2:25:08
5272.
2:25:09
Bob Newell, Penfield, Pennsylvania.
2:25:11
5250.
2:25:12
Sir Andy in Niceville, Florida.
2:25:13
Get well, John.
2:25:15
5150.
2:25:15
These are the 50s.
2:25:16
Chris Cowan from Austin, Texas.
2:25:19
Scott Lavender, Montgomery, Texas.
2:25:21
Michael Sikora in Lake Elmo, Minnesota.
2:25:24
Simon James, London.
2:25:26
That isn't Hackney, in case you were wondering.
2:25:28
Andrew Gusek, Greensboro, North Carolina.
2:25:31
Ray Aceto in Argyle, Texas.
2:25:34
Terrence Boyer in Tuscola, Illinois.
2:25:36
Julie Gilbert in Brighton.
2:25:38
That's Ontario.
2:25:39
Canadianavian dollars.
2:25:40
All the best to John.
2:25:41
Courtney Thomas and Ian and Samuel Burke from
2:25:46
Lubbock, Texas.
2:25:47
This donation switcheroo to Theo Kotick for his
2:25:52
34th birthday, March 21st.
2:25:54
Please wish him happy birthday from Courtney Thomas,
2:25:56
Ian, and Samuel Burke.
2:25:57
Love you, bro.
2:25:58
Alan Bean from Beaverton, Oregon.
2:26:00
Sir Alan Bean.
2:26:01
Pat from Rochester.
2:26:02
Also a get well card from Pat.
2:26:04
I think that's the last one.
2:26:06
Get well soon.
2:26:07
Glad you're doing better.
2:26:09
Look forward to getting you back on the
2:26:12
show.
2:26:12
However, Mimi is doing a great job, and
2:26:14
everybody agrees.
2:26:16
Leanne Shipley, Covington, Washington, 50.
2:26:18
Jason Maurer, Vancouver, Washington.
2:26:20
And that's the last one as we wind
2:26:22
up our $50 donors for episode 1852.
2:26:27
Thank you all so much.
2:26:28
This has been just lovely to see all
2:26:30
the support and all the get well cards.
2:26:32
They will all be piled onto John's bed,
2:26:35
if not already done so, I think.
2:26:37
Okay, so we've got some F karma, jobs
2:26:41
karma, regular karma.
2:26:42
Here we go.
2:26:43
Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.
2:26:47
Let's vote for jobs.
2:26:53
You've got karma.
2:26:55
There it is.
2:26:56
Thank you all for supporting the No Agenda
2:26:58
show.
2:26:58
Go to noagendadonations.com.
2:27:01
That is the best way to support us,
2:27:03
and we appreciate everything, any amount that you
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support us with.
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It is so much appreciated.
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You can give us through multiple means, including
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Bitcoin, Lightning, the Stablecoin.
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I think there's USDC is available, and PayPal.
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All up to you, and it is all
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It's your birthday party.
2:27:29
On No Agenda.
2:27:31
And we do have a list today.
2:27:32
Short one.
2:27:33
Mom, Dad, and Jacqueline say happy birthday to
2:27:35
Ivan David Myers, celebrated on the 11th.
2:27:38
Spencer Shelfwood, celebrated on the 15th.
2:27:41
And as you just heard, Courtney Thomas Ian
2:27:44
and Samuel Burke wish Theo Kotick a happy
2:27:47
birthday.
2:27:47
He turns 34 on March 21st.
2:27:50
Happy birthday from everybody here at the best
2:27:52
podcast in the universe.
2:27:54
It's your birthday, Ian.
2:27:56
And we do have, let's see, we have
2:27:58
a night, which will be taken care of
2:28:00
on Thursday.
2:28:00
A layaway night.
2:28:01
That is Steven Newman.
2:28:02
And he says, hello, peerage committee with my
2:28:05
8888 donation last week and an extra one
2:28:07
time 50 last year.
2:28:09
I have achieved knighthood with a recurring donation
2:28:10
of $4 per week since late October of
2:28:13
2021.
2:28:14
Slow and steady may not win the race,
2:28:16
but it gets you there in the end.
2:28:18
I would like my night name to be
2:28:19
Sir Vagabond of the Middle Midwest.
2:28:21
At the roundtable, I would like to request
2:28:22
fava beans and a nice Chianti.
2:28:25
And we will order that for the big
2:28:29
knighting ceremony, which we've just determined could be
2:28:31
coming up on Thursday.
2:28:34
And thank you all so much for supporting
2:28:36
us here at the No Agenda show.
2:28:38
No Agenda meetups!
2:28:43
Yeah, we got some meetups.
2:28:46
They're always taking place all over the world.
2:28:48
And today there is indeed one coming up
2:28:51
at 5 o'clock Pacific time because it
2:28:53
will be in Idaho.
2:28:53
It is the NISB Get John back into
2:28:58
the house meetup.
2:29:00
And that'll be at Trail Ends Brewery and
2:29:01
Brick Oven Pizza, Coeur d'Alene, Idaho.
2:29:04
Sir Scott the Jew.
2:29:05
He always sends in fun little meetup reports.
2:29:10
We love them.
2:29:10
None of them today, actually.
2:29:12
Also today, the 5th anniversary Charlotte's Thirsty Third
2:29:15
Thursday monthly meetup.
2:29:16
That'll be at 7 o'clock at Ed's
2:29:18
Tavern in Charlotte, North Carolina, Saturday.
2:29:20
The Naha pop-up.
2:29:22
And that is going to be in Okinawa,
2:29:26
Japan at the Naha Bus Terminal.
2:29:28
I'm sure it's nice.
2:29:30
Actually, I'm sure it is nice.
2:29:32
Sir Hank Itami is hosting that.
2:29:35
And we are expecting a meetup report from
2:29:38
the Naha Bus Terminal in Okinawa, Japan.
2:29:41
I told you we're all over the world.
2:29:43
Los Angeles on Wilshire Boulevard.
2:29:45
This time HMS Bounty.
2:29:47
That is the flight of the No Agenda.
2:29:48
And No.
2:29:49
73 Leo Bravo hosting that on Saturday.
2:29:52
And springtime is here.
2:29:54
Meetup will be at Puckett's Restaurant in Franklin,
2:29:58
Tennessee.
2:29:59
It's right by Nashville.
2:29:59
It's really nice.
2:30:00
Franklin's where all the celebrities live.
2:30:02
That'll be on Saturday at 6 o'clock.
2:30:04
Make sure you catch that one.
2:30:06
Yes?
2:30:07
Did you say something?
2:30:10
Yeah.
2:30:10
Oh, I thought you said something.
2:30:12
No, I'm hearing more.
2:30:13
There's more solar flares.
2:30:15
We're hearing more bings.
2:30:16
It's fine.
2:30:17
Are you joshing me or are there real
2:30:20
solar flares?
2:30:21
Interesting.
2:30:22
I'm far enough north that sometimes we get
2:30:24
them and it screws up our internet and
2:30:26
our cell phones.
2:30:27
Oh, interesting.
2:30:29
I'm glad this is the last time we're
2:30:31
doing this.
2:30:32
It's so annoying.
2:30:33
Hey, finally on Sunday we have the No
2:30:36
ID pop-up meetup for 32 Pacific.
2:30:39
Don't be late.
2:30:40
Don't be early at the Alibi Room.
2:30:42
And that is in Vancouver.
2:30:43
That's British Columbia in Canada.
2:30:45
So make sure you catch that.
2:30:46
More coming up this month on the 28th.
2:30:48
Collierville, Texas, Fort Wayne, Indiana, Beachwood, Victoria, Australia,
2:30:52
and Fukuoka, Kyushu.
2:30:56
Another Japanese meetup.
2:30:58
Hello, Japan.
2:30:59
More meetup reports requested.
2:31:01
In April on the 2nd, Raleigh, North Carolina,
2:31:03
Osaka.
2:31:04
Japan is on fire.
2:31:06
This is great.
2:31:08
That's on the 4th.
2:31:09
The 11th, Eagle, Idaho, Albany, California.
2:31:11
John might attend.
2:31:12
Lafayette, Louisiana, and Fredericksburg, Texas.
2:31:14
I will definitely be there.
2:31:15
Please come.
2:31:17
If you're in Austin or San Antonio or
2:31:18
wherever you're from, it's always a hoot.
2:31:20
And that's always at 3.33 p.m.
2:31:22
at the Full Moon Bed Bar Breakfast.
2:31:25
And that's J6 or Jenny's Place.
2:31:28
You can't miss it.
2:31:29
The 25th of April, Scheveningen in the Netherlands.
2:31:32
The 8th will be Buda, Texas.
2:31:35
That's May.
2:31:36
And Leiden in the Netherlands.
2:31:37
And Eagle, Idaho on the 9th.
2:31:38
Those are just a few of the meetups
2:31:39
that are scheduled.
2:31:40
You can find them all at noagendameetups.com.
2:31:42
Man, if you go to one of these,
2:31:44
I guarantee you will come back for more.
2:31:47
You will meet people there that give you
2:31:48
protection because connection is protection.
2:31:51
They are your first responders in an emergency.
2:31:54
Go to noagendameetups.com.
2:31:55
Find one near you.
2:31:56
If you can't find one, start one yourself.
2:31:58
There's no charge, no licensing, no ID check.
2:32:01
Just put it together.
2:32:02
Have a good time with No Agenda.
2:32:05
Always a party.
2:32:06
Sometimes you want to go hang out with
2:32:10
all the nights and days.
2:32:13
You want to be where you want to
2:32:16
be.
2:32:16
Triggered or held to blame.
2:32:19
You want to be where everybody feels the
2:32:22
same.
2:32:24
It's like a party.
2:32:27
All right.
2:32:27
Now, Mimi, you came with nine ISOs.
2:32:30
Nine.
2:32:30
Nine.
2:32:32
I'm an overachiever.
2:32:33
Yes, you are.
2:32:34
And I'm just going to play mine.
2:32:36
What do I have?
2:32:38
I have four of them.
2:32:39
I thought I was loaded for bears, so
2:32:41
I'll play mine first and then we'll go
2:32:42
through yours.
2:32:43
Here we go.
2:32:44
Well, I guess that's it.
2:32:46
That's your boy.
2:32:47
You recognize him?
2:32:49
Uh-huh.
2:32:50
Yeah?
2:32:51
Who is it?
2:32:53
It sounds like Tucker.
2:32:54
No, no.
2:32:55
Listen again.
2:32:55
No, who is it?
2:32:56
Listen again.
2:32:57
Listen again.
2:32:57
You'll get it.
2:32:58
Well, I guess that's it.
2:33:00
You're in love with him.
2:33:03
Asmongold.
2:33:04
Oh, it doesn't sound like him.
2:33:06
That's funny.
2:33:07
All right.
2:33:08
Next one.
2:33:08
I am in love with him.
2:33:10
Yes, I know you are.
2:33:11
Here's the next one.
2:33:11
Okay.
2:33:12
Bye.
2:33:16
This is a classic.
2:33:17
That's important information you might want to write
2:33:19
down, folks.
2:33:20
Okay?
2:33:20
Okay.
2:33:21
And then this is my favorite.
2:33:24
We're pounding it, like really pounding it hard.
2:33:29
Kind of like that one.
2:33:30
All right.
2:33:31
So now, Mimi, I don't even have enough
2:33:34
players on my system to load them all
2:33:37
up.
2:33:38
All right.
2:33:38
Which one do we go?
2:33:39
Do we go in order?
2:33:41
Yes.
2:33:41
Let's go in order.
2:33:42
Okay.
2:33:42
Number one, ride.
2:33:43
Because I can give you a ride if
2:33:45
you need a ride.
2:33:46
Okay.
2:33:48
Number two.
2:33:49
I was not prepared for whatever that was.
2:33:52
Oh, that's kind of cool.
2:33:53
That's a little muddled.
2:33:54
Not that you can help that.
2:33:55
Okay.
2:33:55
Number three.
2:33:56
You can go.
2:33:58
You don't have to.
2:33:59
You can hang around.
2:33:59
I'm still great, but you can go.
2:34:02
Yeah, it's too long.
2:34:03
It's too long.
2:34:03
Okay.
2:34:04
Four.
2:34:04
Show is over.
2:34:06
Show is over.
2:34:08
That's cute.
2:34:09
All right.
2:34:10
This next one is too long, too.
2:34:12
These are too long, but I'll play them.
2:34:13
Okay.
2:34:14
Y'all hear me in there?
2:34:15
Rent was due last thing Thursday.
2:34:16
No more.
2:34:17
That app ain't working, hogwash.
2:34:18
You said that last go around and the
2:34:20
one before that.
2:34:21
Here ain't charity.
2:34:21
It's busy.
2:34:22
No.
2:34:23
Unacceptable.
2:34:24
Unacceptable.
2:34:24
I know, but it's cute.
2:34:26
Okay.
2:34:26
Gotta get going.
2:34:27
I miss you already.
2:34:28
Stop.
2:34:29
Oh, that's cute.
2:34:30
I like that one.
2:34:31
Let's see.
2:34:31
Another one that's way too long.
2:34:33
Mimi.
2:34:34
Give me your nuts at home.
2:34:39
What is that?
2:34:40
No.
2:34:41
No.
2:34:41
You don't understand ISOs.
2:34:44
All right.
2:34:44
I know, but I thought it was funny.
2:34:46
Okay.
2:34:46
Number eight.
2:34:47
What?
2:34:48
What?
2:34:51
Okay.
2:34:51
You know who that is?
2:34:52
That's Tucker.
2:34:53
That's Tucker.
2:34:54
Yeah.
2:34:54
And this is a longer one.
2:34:55
What?
2:34:56
What?
2:34:58
What are you even talking about?
2:35:01
I kind of like.
2:35:03
Let me see.
2:35:03
Was it this one?
2:35:05
No.
2:35:05
No, that's not.
2:35:07
I thought this one was kind of what
2:35:09
I like.
2:35:09
Gotta get going.
2:35:10
I miss you already.
2:35:11
Stop.
2:35:12
I kind of like that one.
2:35:14
You get to choose.
2:35:16
Oh, you know what?
2:35:18
I'm fine.
2:35:19
You choose whatever you want.
2:35:21
Number six.
2:35:22
It is, everybody.
2:35:23
And before we go, of course, it is
2:35:25
time for the tip of the day with
2:35:26
the one and only Mimi.
2:35:28
Great advice for you and me.
2:35:31
Just the tip with JCB.
2:35:34
And sometimes Adam.
2:35:38
Well, hopefully this isn't one that John's already
2:35:40
done because I'm always raving about this product,
2:35:43
but I think he's doesn't like it because
2:35:45
of the name.
2:35:46
I have four elderly dogs.
2:35:48
So my biggest hobby in life is picking
2:35:51
is cleaning up dog pee.
2:35:53
What is that?
2:35:53
What is elderly?
2:35:55
How old is elderly?
2:35:57
I have a basset hound who is 16
2:35:58
years old, which is twice the age of
2:36:00
a normal basset.
2:36:01
That's up there for sure.
2:36:03
And I've got two 12 year olds and
2:36:05
an 11 year old mastiff.
2:36:07
So they're all quite old.
2:36:09
Okay.
2:36:10
Yeah.
2:36:10
They're all really old.
2:36:12
And are they all incontinent?
2:36:13
Is that what you're telling me?
2:36:14
They all pee every.
2:36:15
Really?
2:36:15
You sure they're just not trained properly?
2:36:17
It's just.
2:36:18
No, no, no, no, no, no.
2:36:21
This is no.
2:36:22
Dogs don't pee when they're walking.
2:36:24
Okay.
2:36:25
So, yeah, my, my animals are getting much
2:36:30
too old and diapers are, I'd be changing
2:36:33
diapers all day.
2:36:33
So I just clean the floor constantly.
2:36:35
So this product is called my pet peed.
2:36:39
No, this has not been featured on the
2:36:41
show.
2:36:42
I guarantee you.
2:36:43
Yeah, I know.
2:36:44
My pet peed.
2:36:45
The last word is P E E D.
2:36:47
It removes pet stains and odors like it's
2:36:50
magic.
2:36:51
It's safe around kids, around pets, around plants.
2:36:55
It gets the smell out.
2:36:57
It's fragrance free.
2:36:59
It does not rely on enzymes.
2:37:02
What's it made of this magic formula?
2:37:05
It's some strange type of hydrogen peroxide.
2:37:08
So it may take the color out of
2:37:09
some natural fiber carpets, but for the most
2:37:12
part, I don't care.
2:37:13
I want the smell out more than I
2:37:14
don't care about color anymore.
2:37:15
Your dogs are peeing on your carpet?
2:37:18
No, I've got washable carpets everywhere.
2:37:20
Rugs everywhere.
2:37:22
I have all hardwood floors or all wood
2:37:24
floors.
2:37:24
Now I know why John doesn't want to
2:37:26
move up there.
2:37:26
It's obvious.
2:37:27
It's a pee house.
2:37:28
Someday I'm going to fall.
2:37:32
I'm going to die because I'm going to
2:37:33
fall on pet pee and I'll just be
2:37:35
in the puddle.
2:37:38
Okay.
2:37:39
Nice visual.
2:37:40
Thank you.
2:37:41
We got it.
2:37:42
We got it.
2:37:43
You use it straight.
2:37:44
You use it sparingly.
2:37:46
It's expensive.
2:37:47
For a 32-ounce spray, it's $34.95.
2:37:51
The best deal on Amazon is a two
2:37:52
-pack, which is $49.95. I buy it
2:37:56
by the gallon, 128 fluid ounces or Florida
2:37:59
ounces.
2:38:03
That's like $79, $80.
2:38:07
It works so well, though.
2:38:09
It lasts a while.
2:38:10
It really does get the smell out.
2:38:13
It gets stains out of carpets if they're
2:38:17
colorfast.
2:38:19
I use it constantly.
2:38:23
I don't think I would be able to
2:38:25
stand the smell of my house if I
2:38:26
didn't use this stuff.
2:38:28
I've tried everything on the market.
2:38:30
Everything.
2:38:30
Can you also use it if you kill
2:38:32
someone, they bleed out?
2:38:33
Does it get rid of that?
2:38:35
Oh, yeah.
2:38:35
Absolutely.
2:38:35
It would.
2:38:36
You'd do a good job.
2:38:37
Or if you have a pukey family.
2:38:42
Or for a good cleaning product.
2:38:44
If you have a really grimy place that
2:38:46
you've forgotten to clean for years, you spray
2:38:48
some of that on and you leave it
2:38:50
for a couple hours, then you wipe it
2:38:52
up, and it is beautiful.
2:38:53
All right.
2:38:54
Give us the name again of this fabulous
2:38:56
product.
2:38:57
My Pet Peed.
2:38:58
My Pet Peed.
2:38:59
There it is, everybody.
2:39:00
A spooktacular tip of the day from Mamimi.
2:39:05
Great advice for you and me.
2:39:08
Just a tip with JCD.
2:39:11
And sometimes Adam.
2:39:13
Created by Dana Burnetti.
2:39:14
Well, there you go.
2:39:15
Mimi, it has been a pleasure working with
2:39:19
you.
2:39:20
It's been lovely, but it's way too much
2:39:22
work for me.
2:39:23
No one's seen me in two weeks.
2:39:26
I'm like, I have to work.
2:39:28
I have to work.
2:39:29
And I'm still not good at it, but
2:39:30
I'm starting to get the hang of it.
2:39:32
So next time John needs a fill-in,
2:39:33
I guess I could do it.
2:39:35
I really appreciate it.
2:39:36
It is above and beyond, and it's just
2:39:40
been so great to get to know you
2:39:43
a little bit better after all these years.
2:39:45
And the next time we talk, it will
2:39:46
be some crap about me getting you information
2:39:49
for taxes.
2:39:49
So we've got to do that too.
2:39:52
Don't remind me.
2:39:53
I'm so behind.
2:39:55
Yes, I did.
2:39:56
Tina's like, we're filing late, aren't we?
2:39:59
Probably.
2:40:00
No, we've already filed late.
2:40:02
It's fine.
2:40:03
We've filed extensions for business anyway.
2:40:06
Thank you very much, No Agenda Nation, for
2:40:10
being with us.
2:40:10
Coming up next on the No Agenda Stream,
2:40:13
we have DH Unplugged.
2:40:15
This will be with Horowitz and the young
2:40:18
John Dvorak, which I hear he's done a
2:40:22
really good job.
2:40:23
The whole family's been pitching him.
2:40:25
End of show mixes, we've got, what do
2:40:27
we have?
2:40:28
We have Professor Jay Jones.
2:40:30
We've got the Clip Custodian and more.
2:40:33
And we'll be back on Sunday with the
2:40:35
return of John Dvorak.
2:40:36
Until then, adios mofos, hui hui, and such.
2:40:40
I'm concerned about Benjamin Netanyahu.
2:40:42
The fact that he knew where Hamas was
2:40:44
getting its money in 2018.
2:40:46
He refused to cut it off.
2:40:48
I'm concerned that he continued to prop Hamas
2:40:50
up.
2:40:52
I'm concerned that Benjamin Netanyahu had Hamas's terrorist
2:40:58
plans a year before the terrorist attacks and
2:41:01
they did nothing.
2:41:03
After the attacks, did nothing for 6, 7,
2:41:07
8, 10 hours.
2:41:09
They were ill-prepared.
2:41:11
I've never seen anything like it.
2:41:14
Are we really going to tie Israel's future
2:41:19
up to this man?
2:41:21
And say, if those of us who love
2:41:24
Israel, those of us who were taught in
2:41:28
Sunday school when we were 5 years old,
2:41:32
that Jews are God's chosen people, because 6
2:41:38
million were slaughtered in the Holocaust, are we
2:41:43
not allowed to question Benjamin Netanyahu's motives?
2:41:49
Because if not, that's pretty sick.
2:41:53
And it's not in Israel's best interest.
2:42:01
Because all countries need allies.
2:42:03
Here is a group of people who we
2:42:05
can use as the theoreticians and the executors
2:42:09
of the U.S. policy that we want.
2:42:12
And Israel is an ally, it's a fighting
2:42:14
ally that pulls its weight.
2:42:16
America's landed aircraft carrier.
2:42:18
We're the junior partner.
2:42:20
We have fought now a 7-front war,
2:42:22
we have an 8th front.
2:42:23
The infosphere is the 8th front.
2:42:26
And seizing the high ground in the fight
2:42:29
for global public opinion is a battle.
2:42:32
He told these people, I think they're going
2:42:33
to kill me.
2:42:34
Who is they?
2:42:35
Charlie writes in this group chat, just lost
2:42:36
another huge Jewish donor.
2:42:39
Jewish donors play into all of the stereotypes.
2:42:41
I cannot and will not be bullied like
2:42:44
this.
2:42:46
Reporters in Gaza are Palestinians.
2:42:48
And those people fall into three categories.
2:42:51
Some of them identify with Hamas.
2:42:52
Some of them are intimidated.
2:42:54
And the third category is people who actually
2:42:56
belong to Hamas.
2:42:57
The AP, like all of its sister organizations,
2:43:00
collaborates with Hamas censorship in Gaza.
2:43:02
What does that mean?
2:43:03
The center of the coverage will be a
2:43:05
number, a casualty number that is provided to
2:43:08
the press by something called the Gaza Health
2:43:10
Ministry, which is Hamas.
2:43:11
And it's a way of basically settling the
2:43:14
story before you get into any other information.
2:43:17
General Michael Flynn calls out Netanyahu and the
2:43:20
Israeli military leadership for clearly standing down.
2:43:23
But the point is, and so these governments
2:43:25
all need a boogeyman.
2:43:27
I'm your boogeyman.
2:43:27
Somebody had had a bunch of the troops
2:43:29
stand down.
2:43:30
I mean, this is 9-11 all over
2:43:32
again.
2:43:33
I'm your boogeyman.
2:43:34
Breakthrough, overrun, go in.
2:43:37
Israel supports Hamas.
2:43:38
There's a lot of back-channel wink-wink
2:43:40
going on here.
2:43:42
Suitcases full of cash.
2:43:43
It is true.
2:43:45
I'm your boogeyman.
2:43:46
And so these governments all need a boogeyman.
2:43:49
No, I don't support Hamas.
2:43:50
You are 100% right.
2:43:52
We don't support Hamas.
2:43:53
I'm your boogeyman.
2:43:54
I looked it up.
2:43:55
Israeli intelligence created Hamas.
2:43:58
General Michael Flynn calls out Netanyahu.
2:44:01
Let's begin.
2:44:02
There's no way.
2:44:04
I'm your boogeyman.
2:44:05
Israel supports Hamas.
2:44:06
It is true.
2:44:07
I looked it up.
2:44:08
No, I don't support Hamas.
2:44:10
I'm your boogeyman.
2:44:11
I mean, this is 9-11 all over
2:44:13
again.
2:44:14
But the point is, I'm your boogeyman.
2:44:17
Suitcases full of cash.
2:44:18
There's a lot of back-channel wink-wink
2:44:20
going on here.
2:44:21
I looked it up.
2:44:22
And so these governments all need a boogeyman.
2:44:24
Breakthrough, overrun, go in.
2:44:31
The best podcast in the universe.
2:44:36
MoFo.
2:44:36
Dvorak.org slash N-A.
2:44:41
Gotta get going.
2:44:42
I miss you already.
2:44:43
Stop.
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