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Nuts.
Adam Curry, John C. DeVore.
This is your-
This is no a-
And from Refinery Row in Northern California, we're all asking Donald Trump to be the president.
Are we there yet? I'm John C. Dvorak.
So.
I don't want to be the one to complain.
because I am not the worst wounded on this show.
But I have the Cedar Fever!
Yeah, the what? The cedar fever. Oh, cedar. Oh, this is where every year this happens. I thought you had the HIPAA filter, the HIPAA filter. Oh, it's everywhere. And during the...
The bat signaling caught in my throat and during this opening it caught my, and it's, ah. And the only cure for a fever is more cowbell.
It's just so bad.
Anyway, I'll get through it.
man we got a little scare scare we were a feared for you I had to go into the hospital for a certain checkup and then they outfitted me with a
It's one of these with a bunch of gear. I'm strapped.
He strapped everybody. What are you strapping?
What are you strapped with? You got a nine mil? I got some.
comfortable device on and a
Some sort of a pad, some weird sticker. It looks like a decal that collects data 24-7 for two weeks. And does this connect it to an iPhone? Please tell me it is.
Yeah.
to Jay's iPhone, whose iPhone you're using. No, no, this is connected to the...
I had my phone and they said, there's an app you got to have because it.
collection on the phone.
You showed them your phone. They went, what is that? They said, this phone is old. And I said, yeah, it works.
It works. What am I supposed to say? And so they gave me a phone. Oh, they gave an iPhone?
No, not an iPhone, some Android. So your Android was not even compatible with today's modern technology. Wow.
You know, because here's here's I got no information. Did you get my text? I sent you a text. You get my text? No, you didn't get my text. It's on your phone.
On the phone? Oh, you should send it to the text system. You are confusing. You text, you call me from your phone. You text me from your phone. Now I start using that. I'm like, hey, this is John's phone. You're in the hospital.
And then I was like, I might as well not exist. Meanwhile, Horace is like.
John, everything's fine. Yeah.
You know, Mimi keeps telling me, stop talking to Horowitz. It hurts Adam's feelings.
It does. Well, you know, since I didn't hear back from you, like, whatever. I only talked to Horowitz because they had to skip the show because they were doing something and this horrible situation occurred with me and a specific doctor at the hospital who I shooed out and then... Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Can you talk about it? Yeah, I'll talk about it.
So I had this doctor that was at the top. There's a doctor that's in charge of the floor. Do you mind if I go back a second? Yeah.
So I heard that you went to the ER. This is the information I got.
You went to – here's how it was conveyed to me. What do you mean, uh? Well, I mean, this is going to interrupt my story, but okay. Well, I think it flows into your story.
So John's in the ER. Okay, is he okay? Well, yeah, but he's been waiting for hours, and I got the impression that you were lying on a gurney in the hallway.
Oh, no, they're for-
Mm-mm.
Might as well have been, though. Okay. Because I started pulling the bat. So the reason I'm irked about it is because this doctor comes in.
A small Chinese woman. And says, we got to keep another day. What?
No, I come in and I'm in and I'm out.
Another day.
And she looked at nothing to determine this.
to the next day.
I'm upstairs, stuck there.
She comes in. I got to keep you another day. No. So I got this was from a long series of things. So I got mad at her.
until she's not interested in the patient whatsoever.
And then I said to her, this is very dramatic, because Brandon was there witnessing this. Here it comes.
said, you know what? You're a lousy doctor.
You have no concern for the patient's needs or desires.
And then I kept reading it to the Riot Act. And so she left. Wait, she didn't say anything? Well, she kind of pushed back a little bit. Did she huff? She sort of at least huffed.
Maybe. She had a mask on. Oh, of course. Of course. Of course. Masked. Always masked. Masked, yeah. And so one of the nurses comes in, and I'm gossiping with her because I do that with the nurses, and I said what I did. I told her what I did.
And the nurse says, you want to file a report?
Please.
And I took about five beats, I said, yeah.
So she rushes over to the console.
and said, tell me everything you know.
It was obvious to me that this doctor is a problem doctor.
That was my determination.
And so then meanwhile, then the supervisor comes in and grills me and makes me.
tell the story. And then she's, oh, you know, we were trying to be for the patient. You know, we've, when the nurses don't like the doctor, that's a problem with.
And then there is a – I don't know that, by the way, what you just said. I'm not sure that's true, but I'm –
Because I don't want to demean the nurse.
But it's probably true. But the...
Then I got another supervisor comes in. So what I've done was I like an a-hole that I can be, if you haven't noticed. No, not at all. I went through the system, you know, because there are ways you can complain. But doing it from the outside in.
Having worked in a bureaucracy for eight years.
Doing it from the outside in is not the same as doing it from the inside out.
So she's in trouble.
And rightly so because was she just trying to up her – do you think she gets paid more by keeping you there longer?
Well,
I've concluded the following. If you're a Medicare patient,
The money's automatic.
Right. So the money's coming. They just they don't have to fight you for the money. So you're you're a you're a goldmine.
So Medicare patients, let's do what can we do? And so I think that all these systems, not just the one I'm here with, all these systems across the country are gouging the government. That's why Medicare. Oh, what are we going to do? You know, it's going broke. Yeah, for good reason. They're doing everything they can to break it. I'm surprised they didn't slap you on a vent for another 11 grand.
Yeah, let's put this old geezer on a vent. We know that's money in the bank. Money in the bank. Yeah. Wow. Hey, can we publish that data that they're collecting? Can we make like a real-time JCD graph, health graph?
Well, we're going to try to get all the records.
Yeah.
Well, I was concerned. If I was concerned and if it was bad enough that it –
involved you.
I would have called you.
Yeah, but I only called Horowitz because I had to skip the show. I know, but the fact that you didn't call or didn't even answer my text made me feel like it was much... Well, I missed it. Sorry about the text. No, it's okay. That it was much worse.
Because all I got from Jay is, hey, just an FYI, John's at the ER. I go, okay.
I mean, I'm not complaining. By the way, the reason I was in the ER, because when they go in there, you get checked in. That's where you have to go.
I was there forever because they had –
There was a fiasco situation, which is another whole story, which I won't tell. There was some kind of horrible accident that took place. No, no, they just it's just a logistics thing. It was ridiculous. Let me guess. A bunch of illegal aliens had priority over you. That was my conclusion. Well, you know, it's possible.
As long as they get their money. Hey, you know what? You sound good. In fact, do you want to, should I just tell you what my text was to you? I'm sorry? Should I read you my text? Oh, hold on a second. Let me turn off the heater.
That was going to be my next complaint. That was just so off.
Okay, so here's my text.
Hope you're enjoying that. A good text go to waste. Hope you're enjoying your stay.
What a bummer. This sucks. Don't worry about clips for Thursday. I'll have us well covered. Just show up and grouse as usual. Come on, man.
That's a great text for somebody who's in the...
Thank you.
You're like an amateur writer.
Can't throw anything out.
man i'm glad you're okay you sound great you sound fantastic yeah about an hour from now i'll be great i'll be grasping well between the two of us man i i've had this fever my i the you can literally feel the pollen sticking into your in your throat it's nuts
Yeah, you say this every year.
Well, I had it in January and now it's come back. So this is now, you know, that doesn't make any sense. No, but everyone has it. Everyone has scratchy eyes. Who knows?
It's probably the chemtrails. You got the HEPA going? I got the HEPA going. I got everything going.
What really seems to work. Oh, Manuka Gold.
The Manuka Gold Honey?
Yeah. So I had, along with this, I had really pain in my left side and it kind of went to my back.
It was muscle pain, muscle spasm. This is old guy talk.
So Patina says, hey, we got some of that Manuka Gold pain relief. So I opened the thing.
I was expecting honey goo. No, it's like a balm, a gelatin, a soft gelatin balm. And I rub that, and within two minutes, the pain is gone.
I was blown away by that.
That stuff is magic. I can hear Cal from Lavender Blossoms going, hey, my stuff is better. But I was blown away by the Manuka Gold Pain Relief. Not a sponsor.
What's in it? Oh, well, CBD to start with. I don't have it here, but it has a whole list of ingredients. You know, it's all natural stuff.
and this and that and it smells great and it also doesn't it it's not like you have honey sticking to you
The skin absorbs it and it's gone, you know, so it's not like it's going to rub off if you go lay in bed or something like that.
So there's a tip.
So I figured I'd do a little dive in the archives.
start us off today because we both have and by the way i'm more than prepared with clips you're
Excuse me. I was just trying to be nice. No, I'm just saying you made it sound like I couldn't do clips.
I have backup people, and I want to thank them, but my wife does some stuff for me. I do my own too, by the way.
But Steve Jones loaded me up. I know he did. I know he did. Yeah. But, you know, you don't have to say, like, by the way, like I think you're an invalid or something. Well, no, I was just saying that so I make sure to get my clips in because you've already, like.
you know, said that you're going to cover my clips.
grouse for the show.
And I just wanted to back you off on that.
Well, I was not intending to override your clips because, as you know, I see your clips when they come in and I thought.
Wow. Steve got a lot of good clips for John.
So, don't worry, don't worry. You're kind of the clue, yeah. Don't worry, you can play all your clips, it's fine, because that's what you said, you little spoiled brat.
Yep.
But I was going to start us off with something to start you into your clips by going back 15.
12, 9, and 6 years into the No Agenda Archive.
Because sometimes we've just been right for years.
talked about these jabronis, the SPLC, and I think it was inconclusive, the Southern Poverty Law Center.
Yeah, you really have a distrust. Yeah, I got a real distrust for these guys. What do you know about the Southern Poverty? I mean, what kind of name is that? The Southern – it's a great name, actually, I should say, as a New World Order speak. Southern Poverty.
Law Center is poverty like for poor people, like it serves poor of the South. Let's just review who they are for a moment. The Southern Poverty Law Center is a group who are always referenced not just by media, but also by politicians as tracking the evil that exists in America.
evil, primarily hate groups, white supremacists, racists. And I've always felt very uneasy about the Southern Poverty Law Center. They are the go-to guys. You know what? I believe it's probably going on here. Scam.
Well, that's a word I very rarely use, but I think it's something like you get with the Rainbow Coalition or that thing Sharpton does, which is – Yeah, exactly. We're going to pester you. You want to get off our list? When's our donation coming in? You get the Southern Poverty Law Center.
Yeah. Yeah. You want to be a hate group or you want to help us? Yeah. Hate, hate or help. Hate or help. Because obviously, if you give us money, you're not a hate group. We can easily take you off the list. This is about the Southern Poverty Law Center, who we have been tracking for a decade until it became really popular.
We were pretty much one of the few saying, wow, look at these guys. They got four or five hundred million dollars in this huge endowment and they and they they build up hate lists and they just became a juggernaut for fundraising. Well, and not only that, but they are at the center at the center of all these fact check networks.
So if you want to know if a statement is true, then you go to the fact – I think it's the national – the international fact-check network, which always – all the networks, all the websites, all the news providers all say that they use the SPLC, the Southern Poverty Law Center.
as one of their guiding beacons of light in who is hateful, who is a racist, who's on the list, who's not on the list.
Two weeks ago, employees complaining of toxic workplace, only old white men running the show, everything that they accuse others of, the Southern Poverty Law Center, they have been guilty of themselves apparently for a long time.
Well, there it is.
Yeah, we never liked these guys.
It was so obvious to us that this is bull crap.
Betfork.
All right.
First, I got just a simple clip, which is the SPLC fraud charges because they've been charged with this. I'm going to tell you what these clips are about. They've been charged with fraud because they're sponsoring these hate groups. And then then then.
In fact, let me not only tell you what this is about. Let me tell you what my.
thoughts on.
They not only they go after these hate groups, but they.
to make it so they can fundraise against the hate groups. It turns out, as these clips will provide.
They have been financing the hate groups. And in fact, that hate group situation that, that whatever the meat is, that great meetup, the, the, uh,
They're very good people on both sides. Hoax that got Biden to run for office was financed by the Southern Poverty Law Center. They gave them the money to do that protest. And while everybody's up in arms about this and I think it is disgusting, I have to say the following. I think this is marketing genius. You know.
While I was looking for those clips.
In fact, I probably have it still in the raw.
You said, I've been thinking about this for a long time. We should get in on this game is what you literally said. This is a great gambit. These guys know what they're doing.
It's like a marketing taken to the max, although the way they did it, I guess because they did it over, you know, there was some state, there was some fraudulent stuff going over state lines. There was money laundering. They overcompensated and got themselves in a pickle. And I'm glad they did. I don't like these guys.
Obviously phonies by what happened. This is play SPLC fraud charges. The Justice Department announced fraud charges against the Southern Poverty Law Center over its nonprofit investigations into extremist groups.
CBS News Justice Reporter Jake Rosen has the details.
A federal grand jury in Alabama indicted the Southern Poverty Law Center on 11 counts of wire and bank fraud-related charges on Tuesday, the Justice Department announced, accusing the group of paying members of extremist organizations as part of its efforts to investigate them without disclosing the practice to donors or banks. The SPLC has denied the allegations. Acting Attorney General Todd Blanche said at a news conference announcing the charges that the SPLC is, quote, a nonprofit.
an entity
that purports to fight white supremacy and racial hatred by reporting on extremist groups and conducting research to inform law enforcement groups with the goal of dismantling. But, quote, the SPLC was not dismantling these groups. It was instead manufacturing the extremism it purports to oppose by paying sources to stoke racial hatred. I have the indictment in front of me. If I just can go through a few things before we play your next clips. Yeah, this is I mean, it reads.
better than any report.
So they had fictitious entities, these front companies with names like Rare Books Warehouse, Tech Writers Group, Northwest Technologies, Fox Photography, and my favorite, the Center Investigative Agency. Yeah, literally CIA.
Cute. It's very cute. That's a little nod. That's what you do. That's what you do.
So the Nazis, this is the National Alliance member. He was on the payroll for 20 years. And where they went wrong with this is.
One of these guys broke into a violent extremist group's headquarters, stole 25 boxes of documents, and one of the high-level SPLC employees coordinated the theft, knew the documents were stolen, went back, returned the originals, got in again.
And then published a hate watch article. I mean, these people are completely they had no you're out of control. No scruples. The imperial wizard of the United States clans of America on their payroll.
Um,
Let's see. The former chairman of the National Alliance was on the payroll.
Now what is interesting is that the bank that they use actually caught them in 2020 and they investigated these shell accounts.
SPLC president and board chair wrote a letter admitting that the accounts were open for SPLC operations instead of swat stopping.
They switched and started using
ACH payments with like Rare Books 050 and IP Research Con 050. And then they would load the money onto gift cards.
Oh, money laundering.
That's money laundering. And I think Besant is a part of this because he has been doing a lot of looking at the financial networks. Forensics. Yes. So they were so. What is the what is the term looking for?
You know, they didn't care. No, they got, this is what happened. They got sloppy.
Yeah, when the bank doesn't do anything and nobody seems to care, especially during the four years of Biden, it just gets worse and worse. But we spotted it early on. I mean, and I think the point you made when you had that early earliest of clips.
Where you say southern poverty law. So what does it got to do with poverty?
They've been going after, they got their reputation by going after one hate group some years back. That's how they got their start.
And they made a business out of that. They get nothing to do with southern poverty. It's like – They're not doing anything for the poor. It's like Patriot Act. It's the obvious opposite. Yeah, there's nothing patriotic about it. No, exactly. And I'm so happy that this is happening.
This has been 15 years of the show. We've always been grousing about these guys. And I had completely forgotten they are at the center of the fact check list. That's why there's almost no M5M coverage of this. Almost none. Because they were all using SPLC. Oh, SPLC says, hey, we have a comment from SPLC. Oh, Southern Poverty Law Center, blah, blah, blah.
They've all been seen as a resource rather than a target of an investigation. Yeah, it's like an authoritative resource. If they say there was Nazis in Charlottesville, then there was Nazis in Charlottesville.
So this I got three MP. This is one series of clips from NPR. This is the DOJ. This is some with some analysis is pretty good. For decades, the Southern Poverty Law Center has been known for tracking hate groups. On Tuesday, the Justice Department announced federal criminal charges against the nonprofit.
in connection with its use of paid informants to infiltrate extremist groups. NPR Justice Correspondent Ryan Lucas is covering this, and he's with us now in our studios. Good morning. Good morning. Before we get to the charges, would you just quickly remind us of what the Southern Poverty Law Center does? So the Southern Poverty Law Center is also known as the SPLC. It's a 55-year-old civil rights organization. It has a storied history. It's based in Montgomery, Alabama
It started out as a law center doing a lot of civil rights work, trying to help end the vestiges of the Jim Crow era in the South. And its work later expanded to monitoring white supremacist groups, hate groups, including the KKK, and extremist groups more broadly. What is the administration saying they did?
they say is illegal. Well, look, there are 11 counts in this indictment against the SPLC, including wire fraud, false statements to a bank and conspiracy to commit money laundering. And what the indictment alleges is that the SPLC defrauded its donors by telling them that the group was working to dismantle extremist groups.
but was in fact using donated money, the DOJ says, to fund extremist groups. Court papers say that between 2014 and 2023, the SPLC paid around $3 million in total to informants affiliated with several hate groups. That includes the KKK. It says the SPLC set up bank accounts in the names of fictitious entities to pay these informants, the idea being to hide that the money was coming from the Southern Poverty Law Center.
But the indictment says that in setting up these accounts, the SPLC was making false statements to the bank.
Can I just play one of their donation ads from the SPLC? This is from 11 years ago. I'm Steve Centuria, and I have been a supporter of the Southern Poverty Law Center for at least 20 years. It's a fantastic organization that...
These are all mixed couples, black woman, white man. I think that anyone and everyone.
is concerned with justice in this country should
Do what they.
amazing to be able to use law to actually achieve.
I've often said that Morris Dees and the Southern Poverty Law Center
stand between civilization and barbarism. And I think it's the most unique.
organization in America. I talk to my friends who are still teachers about what they can do in their classrooms. Some of them do know about teaching tolerance, others don't. So I intend to spread the word even more. As far as I'm concerned, this is the premier organization to deal with the rights of people who need help and need someone to go to bat for them in the legal system. This is the outfit that sued the Klan.
put them out of business. I just couldn't imagine what these guys do on a day-to-day basis. It's quite
My philosophy is if you don't want to be in the trenches, find the best person you can who is and support.
It takes 10 years and all kinds of talent to prosecute someone. Your group's willing to do it.
Make sure we seek justice. I want to stand.
Morris Dees and the Southern Poverty Law Center.
Oh my, that's another organization that I must support.
that this is a good place for me to continue.
give what little I have.
deal.
Yes, and I would like to remind everybody the No Agenda show is a value for value podcast. No tricks, no gimmicks, no ads, no levels, no subscriptions. You can support us at noagendadonations.com.
So back to the NPR. Now, NPR, if you haven't noticed on the first part of it.
They are are doing the reporting from the perspective of a skeptic.
They think it's the administration. Of course. This could be alleged, alleged, alleged. Yeah. And this is, you know, they make it sound like maybe this, they can't quite get over the top with it. I mean, I think they'd like to.
But they're still supporting the Southern Poverty Law Center.
At NPR, it's pretty obvious that they're disappointed.
that this came to light.
So how has the SPLC responded to this? Well, the group put out a video statement before the charges were announced saying that the SPLC was under federal investigation. And in that video, the nonprofit CEO, Brian Fair, defended the payments made to informants. He says these people risk their lives to infiltrate extremist groups and provide information on their activities. It was done to protect SPLC staff to gather intelligence on violent threats.
He said that information was shared with local and federal law enforcement, including the FBI. And he said that information no doubt saved lives. He also said the SPLC will defend its work. We will not be intimidated into silence or contrition. And we will not abandon our mission.
or the communities we serve. Now, Fair also argued in that video that the SPLC is being targeted for political reasons. Yeah.
Yeah. No, of course, of course, the mainstream, they have to defend them because all of their allegations... Because they got suckered. Well, all of their allegations have always been... It's almost like, well, it was in the New York Times. Well, the Southern Department of Law Center said it, so it's got to be right.
That's what it is. So, yeah. And I don't think they're embarrassed about anything. They're bummed. Oh, man. Got to find a new guy to do this for us.
Yeah, that's probably pretty...
Pretty accurate.
Yeah, I'd say. Here are the rest of this apologia. Well, Ryan, we have seen the Justice Department under this administration go after President Trump's critics, often at his explicit direction. So what about Fair's argument that this indictment is political?
Well, look, acting Attorney General Todd Blanch delivered this news at a press conference yesterday. He was asked about concerns about politics in this investigation. Here's what he said. Well.
free from political. There is nothing political about this indictment or this investigation. Now, it is no secret, though, that conservatives have been highly critical of the Southern Poverty Law Center for years. They say it unfairly labels conservative organizations. One example they point to is an SPLC report in 2024 that described Turning Point USA. That's the group, of course, that was started by the right-wing activist Charlie Kirk, described it as a
a case study of the hard right.
And then after Kirk was assassinated last year, the FBI ended a long-running relationship that it had with the Southern Poverty Law Center. And at the time, FBI Director Kash Patel said that the civil rights group had turned into what he called a partisan smear machine. Now, this prosecution, this case, of course, is just getting underway. So we will see how this all plays out.
I love the music there.
Thank you.
So, uh...
Patel.
calls it a smear machine.
And so what happens to him over the last few days? Oh, before you go there.
because that is absolutely connected.
First, we have to notice that this is now happening now that Pam Bondi is gone.
Blanche is the attorney general. Can you imagine how this would have played out if Bondi had announced this? It would have been pathetic. Yes, exactly.
No, you had to go. It was perfect timing. I just want to play a little bit of Blanche, of what he said in this indictment video. Yeah, take it. Yeah, then we'll switch over to the smear machine. Yeah, we'll get to the smear machine. Good afternoon.
Today, a few minutes ago,
in the Middle District of Alabama, a grand jury returned an 11 count
indictment charging the Southern Poverty Law Center with six counts of wire fraud, four counts of bank fraud, and one count of conspiracy to commit money laundering.
According to the charges in the indictment, the SPLC is a nonprofit entity that purports to fight white supremacy and racial hatred by reporting on extremist groups and conducting research to inform law enforcement groups with the goal of dismantling these groups.
As the indictment describes, the SPLC was not dismantling these groups. It was instead manufacturing the extremism it purports to oppose.
by paying sources to stoke racial hatred. The indictment describes this conduct in detail, but one troubling example is that the SPLC was paying a member of the leadership group that planned the Unite the Right protest in Charlottesville.
Virginia in 2017 that resulted in the death of one person.
and injured dozens more. Okay.
As you said at the top of the show, top of the hour, I believe this goes much deeper than people may see at face value.
What the SPLC paid that guy to do and probably more people at Charlottesville was a deliberate attempt to undermine and get rid of Trump because, as you already said, it was the complete precursor to this super clip.
George Charlottesville.
In August of 2017...
Thank you.
Oh, Jesus.
I see swastikas.
And changing the same exact-
It was heard in Germany in the early 30s.
made the decision to run for president after Charlottesville.
Close your eyes and remember what you saw. Close your eyes. Neo-Nazis. Neo-Nazis. White supremacists. White supremacists. And the KKK coming out of the fields with torches lighted. Trump! Veins bulging, chanting the same anti-Semitic bile heard across European authorities. I spoke to the mom who lost her daughter.
of those neo-Nazis and white supremacists come out in America with torches carrying Nazi banners singing the same sick anti-Semitic bile.
30s.
When her daughter was killed, they fresh went to the den.
Trump said, what do you think? He said, they're very fine people on both sides.
do something. That's how I decided to run because democracy is literally at stake. And then he made, he evidenced everything that we thought. Every other time the Ku Klux Klan.
while they work.
so they're not identical.
His presidency.
out of this woods with no hope. His presidency. Charlottesville is also home to a defining moment for this nation in the last few years. Remember this one? It was there on August of 2017 we saw Klansmen and white supremacists and neo-Nazis come out in the open.
And that's when we heard the words of the President of the United States that stunned the world and shocked the conscience of this nation. He said there were, quote, some very fine people on both sides.
find people on both sides. We can't forget.
in Charlotte,
Even more important, we have to remember who we are. This is America.
Now, you know, it's easy to forget because we've been inundated with this messaging for over a decade.
But the Trump Nazi, oh, he's got Mein Kampf next to his bed. This was all coordinated from SPLC and whoever else is affiliated with them, which is, oh, I don't know, NPR, MSNBC, CNN, ABC, CBS, NBC. It got so bad that we started making jingles. Donald loves Nazis.
Donald loves Nazis. CNN say that he's kicking.
Big hail with it, wow!
So.
This will not stand. So we have to bring in the smear machine.
So we have cash.
Patel at the center of a lot of this. So we have all of a sudden he's got to go because he's a drunk.
What didn't help is the team at the Olympics where he's guzzling the beer. No, that's the whole source of everything. Yes. Because they got nothing else. I have two ways to go. I got one clip of Cash Patel suing.
Or I said I have the origin story, which is the woman who wrote the article in The Atlantic was on a Jen Psaki show. Hold on. So The Atlantic article, from what I understand.
I think AP retracted a story they had referencing the article. It seems like the Atlantic may have gotten a little bit over their skis on what was written here.
Yes, but they're sticking by it. All right. So why don't we play? Let's start with the origin story. This is the Patel origin. This is Sarah Fitzpatrick.
The writer.
of this article and listen to, I got two, it's only two clips. She's on with Saki, who is, who's out to get.
Well, another moment to get ratings, another moment in the sun. Joining me now is the reporter who broke that story. The Atlantic Sarah Fitzpatrick. Well, let's get into some of the details about this, because.
of drinking seems to be what is alarming a lot of the sources in here. There are multiple anecdotes that refer to that. That's understandable. They're moving meetings. People couldn't wake him. What more have you heard about the extent of his drinking habits and how it seems to be affecting his ability to serve as FBI director? I think the key point is that this is happening in places in which it is public. There are lots and lots of
people around who are seeing it, who are hearing about it, who are learning about it. For example, we have video of Patel chugging a beer to excess on video. We've all seen it. Everybody's seen it. Yeah.
And I think that was in the locker room. He was on official travel at that time.
There were ongoing threats in the United States at that time. So, you know, it is a very, very clear pattern that has occurred in multiple locations over a long period of time. And it's that pattern which has given everyone pause. These are not one-off events. This is almost as good as saying someone's mentally unstable. You know, it's like.
I am going to analyze this guy, and because of the way he chugged his beer, I only saw him chugging one bottle of beer. He didn't even chug a whole beer. He was in the locker room. Most of it went outside of his mouth.
Of the first time the USA is the coach of the team of the USA team in the Olympics was his buddy. They're buddies because Patel plays hockey. Yes, he's a hockey. Now, if you're a drunk, you don't play hockey, but OK. So not very well. I wouldn't. You play, but maybe not very well. So so he was invited into the locker room, which was, you know.
I would say.
Probably not. It wasn't a good idea, but OK, he did it. So he goes in there and they're all throwing beer and champagne over each other because they won.
is for the first time. It's like Formula One. Have we ever seen Formula One with the champagne? Or anything. Anybody ever? Any basketball championship, any championship, they're spraying each other like, you know, it's very kind of...
oddly sexual.
They're shaking the bottle in the wrong spot. It's funny. So I found it to be disgusting. Yeah. But they're dumping. So he has a beer and he dumps it in his mouth. It's going all over the place. He's not chugging a beer in any common way.
And this is the video. This is the key to everything. If he had done this, they couldn't do anything. How much?
Do you think that Psaki is a shots girl? Do you think she's one of those that gets sloshed? She looks like a jello shot.
Yellow shot, girl. Looks the type.
Let's go to part two of this stupid clip.
The
anecdote of the story was incredibly striking for a number of reasons. I mean, because I thought he was locked out of an FBI computer system. He grew incredibly paranoid, thought he was going to be fired. It turned out to be a technical issue. Talk about that level of paranoia, what that tells you, why it was.
important to kind of lead with that anecdote in the story. The anecdote was just incredibly telling for a couple of reasons. One is that it set off such a panic within the FBI and within Washington. It set off a panic in Congress. The White House was fielding calls. I mean, there was a real lack of understanding about who was in charge at a given moment, which, as you know, as a former member of government, is an incredibly important who is in charge at a given moment.
I also think it speaks to character and impulsivity and the ability to be in a stressful situation.
think about what those next steps are. And I think it is also emblematic of other occasions that we have seen that are very public in which information has been shared by the FBI director, which was not yet, that went beyond what the investigation was ready to make public at that time. Like what? And that later had to be walked back. And in multiple cases that we have seen, all very publicly reported, the fact that...
this has impacted the investigation. This has impacted their ability to pursue people that were potentially mass shooters or other things of that nature.
What? Because he's drinking a beer, he can't pursue people who are mass shooters. Is that his job? That's his job. Yes, that's all he does. This is a mistake. Atlantic made a mistake here. Well, they're going to pay for it if it all goes well. Now, two more clips. One of them is, let's see, Patel defends. I got an ABC clip and then I have a.
Another one.
Akash Patel sues NBC. Let's play the ABC clip.
Tonight, FBI Director Kash Patel in front of the cameras lashing out at allegations of excessive drinking and concerns about his job performance. I've never been intoxicated on the job, and that is why we filed a $250 million defamation lawsuit. And any one of you that wants to participate, bring it on. I'll see you in court. Patel is suing The Atlantic for $250 million, alleging defamation after it published a story claiming members...
of his security detail had difficulty waking Patel because he was seemingly intoxicated. The article also claimed a request for breaching equipment normally used by SWAT and hostage rescue teams to quickly gain entry into buildings was made last year because Patel had been unreachable behind locked doors. Acting Attorney General Todd Blanch tonight said he had not read the article but disputed the reporting.
The Atlantic is standing by its story tonight, David, and calling Kash Patel's defamation lawsuit meritless.
Isn't this the same playbook they did on Hegseth? He's a drunk. Yeah. He's a drunk. The drunk thing is very, which is ironic since Trump is the president. No drinking. No drinking. No drinking. So that report seemed like a kind of a cookie cutter. Well, listen to NBC do the same report. Tonight, a battle over reputation and reporting. You want to attack my character? Come at me. Bring it on.
I'll see you in court. Today, FBI Director Kash Patel filed a defamation suit seeking a staggering $250 million against the Atlantic Monthly Group. After its April 17th story, citing anonymous sources, reported that bouts of excessive drinking and erratic behavior have put his job on the line. NBC News has not independently verified that reporting.
The story claims on multiple occasions the director's security detail had difficulty waking Patel. We got a request was made late last year for.
Breaching equipment.
Patel had faced criticism for this moment when he partied with U.S. men's hockey, winning Olympic gold. He responded that he was extremely humble to celebrate with the boys. The director's lawsuit alleges the Atlantic story contains false and obviously fabricated allegations and ignored the FBI's response before it was published. While the Atlantic says we stand by our report.
Now, is it a slander lawsuit? Do we know?
Would print.
One, there's two ways of, there's two kinds of defamation. There's one slander and one is libel. One is in print and one is verbal. Right. So it's the one that's in print. Yes. And I hate to say this, but I do get.
mixed up a lot.
So I think it's liable if it's in print.
You need a lozenge. Let's look it up. Look it up. You got the robot. Well, hold on a second. What is the question I'm asking here? Hold on a second. What's the difference between slander and libel? Book of Knowledge. What is the difference between slander and libel?
up.
According to the book of knowledge, slander is spoken defamation that damages reputation through false statements, while libel is written or published defamation in permanent form.
Thus,
It has been written.
Okay, so easy way to remember.
Slander is speech.
Ah, S for speech. S for speech. That's good. Book of Knowledge comes through.
Now.
What I see here is this is not just about...
Dismantling the decades-old system of the SPLC and the media and...
I would just have I don't even know it's the Democrats. I think it's uniparty. Whoever they need to take down, they'll take down.
As Kash Patel shows up, this is my favorite show. I always record Sunday morning, Sunday mornings with the money, honey, Maria Bartiromo. Kash Patel pops up with this little message.
I've been with the president nearly since day one on this. As I told you earlier, I was the one that led the effort with folks like Trey Gowdy, Johnny Ratcliffe, and Devin Nunes to expose the corruption that tried to thwart President Trump's first presidential election run. And we saw the FISA abuses there. And I lived through it, and the media came at me then, too. That just shows you that when you're over the target, you keep pummeling the target because the media
We are not going to take this and have not taken this laying down. We did already indict former Director Comey, and that's going through the judicial process. But we also at this FBI, even though we uncovered what we uncovered back in the House Intel days, I had to come in here and find rooms that they hid from the world. I had to come in here and find access on our computer system.
in restricted and prohibited case files that they purposely put in places for no one to see and find. We have found all this information. We are working with our Department of Justice partners. And I am never going to let this go because they not only personally attacked the presidency of the United States and President Trump, but they tried to thwart our elections and rig the entire system. And that is not something that is going to stop. That is not something I'm going to allow.
on my wife and you have to remember they built this disease temple over twenty and thirty years east we've got all the inference i can out on your show that we've got all the information we need we're working with our prosecutors the department of justice and attorney general todd blanch
We are going to be making arrests and it's coming. And I promise you, it's coming soon. Did you say?
Did he say diseased temple or diseased temple? No, I like diseased temple. It's a show title. With a D or no D?
What do you mean? Disease with a D at the end? I thought he said diseased. No, no, I don't think it is.
I like the – I don't like it with the – The pure disease. Just disease temple. I've written it down, disease temple. And so, of course.
Oh, there he is.
off topic, but it has to do with you.
James Comey subpoenaed according to MS Now reporting as part of a grand conspiracy. You notice how they have to say MS Now. MS Now, they have to think about it still. Yeah, of course they do. You would too. Station call letter change. James Comey. It's like when you remarry, you don't ever want to call your wife by her old wife's name.
subpoenaed according to MS Now reporting as part of a grand conspiracy that's being investigated against Donald Trump. There is talk that you might be also involved in this.
What have you heard? What are you learning?
What do you make of this? What are you learning?
I think you mean against Jim Comey because Jim Comey, myself and others, you know, have received subpoenas from the Department of Justice about some grand conspiracy or the work that we did while we were in government. And we're going back basically 10 years or so.
That sounds so much like we were just following orders while we were in government. Just following orders, sir. Or the work that we did while we were in government and we're going back basically 10 years or so.
So David can speak to the retribution campaign that Donald Trump has been on. And with this effort to try to harass and to try to ruin people professionally, personally, financially and so on. And it's very, very sad that our government, our Department of Justice is engaged in these types of activities.
Again, I'm going to do what I need to do in order to ensure that I am following the law and continuing to say that I feel as though everything I did while I was director of
of the CIA was certainly consistent with my authorities and lawful and appropriate. I would have been derelict. My colleagues at that time would have been derelict if we didn't expose Russian interference in the 2016 election.
Yeah, you know, I think this is the time to play the old Brennan clip.
Oh, yes. It puts him right in this whole Brennan clip.
This applies to him now. Yes, here it is. People are innocent until alleged to be involved in some type of criminal activity.
That's him. Until they're alleged to be in some kind of criminal activity. Thank you. Good callback. I forgot about that.
And he's very dismayed. Now he's popping up all over the place. Another MS now. He's now he's very demure. He's not happy. It just shows that over the past 10 years, there's been, you know, failure after failure to try to identify something that, you know, wrongdoing in this case.
Part of this is to harass.
tried to hurt individuals reputationally, professionally, financially. Same words. Trying to keep the story alive as a way to deflect from other issues and challenges that they face. Oh.
So, again, I'm not surprised by this. I'm very dismayed and disappointed by it. I'm also very troubled that we have people in government who seem to be so mean spirited that they try to actually to hurt individuals, hurt people, their families and others. That's what government does. That's the default. What about Roger Stone? What's he talking about? And they claim to be part of the Republican Party. This is not Republican.
Parties that I work with.
or whatever they worked with. You know, there are people of integrity who never would have thought the Department of Justice would have fallen as far as it has. And so, again, every day when I wake up, you know, there's something new that I just find just being so surreal and separated from the government and the reality that I worked in for 33 plus years.
Again, I take every day as it comes. Okay, so I've got two more shorties here. 33 to magic number. I know. It's in there. Trump is only doing this just to distract from his horrible, dumb mistakes. It's clear that there's this toxic mix of traits that Donald Trump has.
which is he's a pathological liar. He is incompetent on so many fronts. And he's also deeply corrupt, which I think is now being manifest, manifesting itself in terms of the Gulf War. That's why you have these wholly incoherent, wholly inconsistent flailing about because, first of all, again, there was no real rationale for this war. Secondly, he's trying to figure out what his next move is, and he doesn't understand exactly how he's going to get himself out of this mess.
So he's coming after me because he doesn't know how to get out of this mess. Okay.
And now, what's he worried about?
Oh, Brennan? Yeah, what's he worried about if this is all true? Brennan's going to the guillotine.
Bring that back. That was good. We can only hope. One more clip. Trump said something this morning that was very telling when they asked him about the Brits and Keir Starmer, Prime Minister Starmer, why he has not joined this effort.
Ken Starmer told Trump, I need to speak with my advisors. Hold on a second. He has. Oh, maybe he's talking about the Iran war. The Starmer. Yeah. Starmer has not joined this effort. OK. Why he has not joined this effort. Ken Starmer told Trump, I need to speak with my advisors. And Trump said, why do you have to speak with your advisors?
It just demonstrates that these are all things that he does on his own, and he's not taking the advice and input of others, even though they all seem to be the sycophants here.
But, you know, Keir Starmer and others are listening to their intelligence professionals, listening to their military experts, listening to their foreign policy advisors and others to see the right way forward. But Donald Trump acts on his gut, on his feelings, which is not the way to prosecute any war, especially one that is so needless as this.
this is kind of an unfortunate example that former CIA director Brennan brings up because this is exactly the topic of what is happening in the UK. And I finally put together a couple of clips because it's so entertaining. Starmer listening to his advisors. Let's recap, shall we? Let's just recap.
Peter Mandelson has been on the rack or had been on the rack twice, twice sacked from the cabinet, the Labour cabinet, Blair's cabinet. First time Blair, second time, I believe, Gordon Brown.
First time for taking a big mortgage loan from interest-free, I do believe, from Geoffrey Robertson, the Labour Party's in-house multimillionaire. He bought a house in Notting Hill, didn't tell anyone and then had to declare it. He had to be sacked. It was the scandal hilariously called Notting Hill Gate.
gate. He then went on to be restored to the cabinet and then had to be fired for trying to get the very rich billionaire Indian Hinduja brothers tycoons there in India British passports under the counter. He had to be sacked for that. And then we had of course the
Epstein affair. So all through that.
Uh,
Starmer admits in the House when asked by Badenoch, did you know that Peter Mandelson had continued a friendship with the convicted paedophile Jeffrey Epstein while he was in jail and had stayed at his apartment in Manhattan while he was in jail for child sex offences? Did you know that, Prime Minister? Yes, I did. So he knew that.
He said that in the House of Commons. He knew about this guy's background, but from what we're hearing, he didn't feel it was worth asking.
But he always checks with his advisors, doesn't he? Yeah. Brennan, so this is Esther Krakow. Brennan's full of it.
What?
This is a great story. It just gets so deep. And and it's the connections between what they were clearly this Mandelson. I think it might be in this clip or the next one.
They wanted Mandelson close to Trump as soon as possible because they knew.
that Mandelson, well, they call him the Prince of Darkness. And so they wanted their guy close to Trump as the ambassador in the United States to the UK. And Esther Krakow, who's an international affairs commentator, has some background on it.
Prime Minister's Question Time.
was forced to admit that he actually did know about Peter Mandelson's association with Jeffrey Epstein in a security briefing. So he was asked point blank in the dispatch box whether he actually knew during the vetting process, which Keir Starmer actually even celebrated Peter Mandelson coming on board before the vetting was complete. So he'd already made his mind up that this man was going to be the U.S. ambassador.
In sort of an embarrassing U-turn, he now had to reveal that he did know, but that Peter Mandelson misled him and his team on the extent of the relationship, which, again, is quite baffling because this was easily Google-able information. I mean, if a conservative researcher who's about 20 years old can find this on the Internet.
then the Labour vetting team should have been able to. But it's more about why he even brought him back in the first place. Peter Mandelson had to resign twice in disgrace from government back in 1998 and 2001, one of which was because he basically peddled his influence to get an Indian billionaire, a British pastor.
So this is not someone who had a clean track record to begin with. But it's clear that Labour is so bereft of talent that they had to bring someone whose nickname is, I kid you not, the Prince of Darkness into the Labour sort of high office to try and get anything done. Unfortunately, even during Peter Mandelson's brief stint as US ambassador, no one knew his name because basically Nigel Farage was our de facto ambassador.
And he actually peddled more influence for the Americans than Peter Mandelson did. But his association with Jeffrey Epstein has proven to be extremely ugly. He called Jeffrey Epstein being released from prison Liberation Day. The email exchanges between the two suggest that, you know, Peter Mandelson was happy to use his influence to try and influence bankers bonuses during the financial crisis, the sale of a bank.
and details about a European bailout, bank bailout. This is at a time where, you know, the government were really scrambling to try and reassure people. People were losing their jobs left, right and center, their homes. And you had basically what was effectively the deputy prime minister at the time.
using his influence to get a
pedophile financier and his friends whatever scraps they could. So this is what happens when you resurrect the carcasses of a man like Peter Mandelson's political career. And unfortunately, Kiyosama is really going to try hard to ride this wave, but I don't think he'll be successful. And then finally, this Ollie Robbins character who was a former senior civil servant, I think he quit or he was sacked.
Not sure. Testifying before the parliamentary committee, which is the nail in the coffin for Starmer and for what I think was a clear gambit to get close to Trump, maybe use some Epstein sap. Who knows? And I think the president, that's when he said, you know, we should probably release all this Epstein stuff. Let's get it all out there.
Can I ask you this? So let's move on. I think throughout January, honestly, my office, the Foreign Secretary's office, were under constant pressure.
there was an atmosphere of constant chasing. Daily phone calls? I couldn't say for certain daily, but certainly very frequent.
from private office to private office. Has this been delivered yet? Never any interest as far as I recall.
weather.
but only an interest in when. When you say private office to private office, are you saying private office of number 10? Yes, I am. I'm afraid I walked into a situation in which there was already a very, very strong expectation, and you will have seen the papers released already under the humble address.
that coming from Number 10 that he needed to be in post and in America as quickly as humanly possible. The very first formal communication of this to my predecessor from Number 10 private office being that they wanted all this done at pace and Mandelson in post before inauguration.
So I'm afraid what that translated into for my team in the Foreign Office and certainly the handover briefing I was getting as I arrived at post.
was what I felt was a generally dismissive attitude to his vetting clearance. The focus was on getting Mandelson out to Washington quickly.
Despite this atmosphere, an atmosphere of pressure, the department completed developed vetting to the normal high standard. Because the vetting process is not there to determine fitness for office or reputational risk. It's there to protect national security. Yeah. So there you go. So wait, so your analysis has it that Mandelson was.
over here on purpose to do something to Trump. Yeah, he had all the Trump guys figured.
two and two or his team did. And then they rolled out all the Epstein stuff and got that guy out of here. Mandelson was the first one to go, if you recall.
He was the first one.
And I'm sure that they staggered the files that way. Yeah. Yeah, let's make sure this gets out first. Yeah, let's put this here on page one. Let's make sure that you can copy-paste and the redactions are taken out. Yeah, because there's a huge humiliation for the Starmer regime. The Starmer's on the ropes. He should be. Yeah.
We still have to try something here at home. We already had the New York Times article with the Situation Room, Sources Say, Bibi Netanyahu sat at the head of the table. He had the buttons there. He was pushing everything. Bibi was running the meeting. Trump was serving him drinks, and Bibi was doing all this, and now we have a new one.
This is one of those former CIA analysts, one of my favorites.
They all show up on Sean Ryan. Larry Johnson. Here we go. Larry Johnson. OK.
Let's stop here so we can preface this.
Larry Johnson
Is some soy still working for somebody?
Larry Johnson is the worst of the worst. Yes. He's the worst of the worst. Everything is an anti-Trump. It's all, you know, the walls are closing in. He's still back on that theme from like 2017. The walls are closing in type of guy. He is full of it. Larry Johnson is the absolute worst.
And this is part of the 25th Amendment ploy, I'm quite convinced. And then there was a report out that they had an emergency meeting Saturday night. And apparently, well, one report coming out of that meeting at the White House is that Trump wanted to use the nuclear, so-called use the nuclear codes. And General Dan Kaine stood up and said no. No.
he invoked his privilege as the head of the military, so to speak. No. It was apparently quite a blow up. There are pictures of him.
Kane coming out of that meeting with his head down to the ground. You know, there's some very, very bizarre things going on in D.C. Yeah.
sure in every movie I've seen, and we could check with the book of knowledge, when the president says it's time for the new codes, the generals don't get to overrule that.
No.
No they don't.
So they're desperate here. So this is a bull crap story. Yes. You think? Which is what you expect. Yeah. And these guys are really hard up for.
I don't understand why they can't focus better.
Well, you know, the system is being dismantled. This is Scattergun.
Yeah, there it is. Blunderbuss.
Is that a term? Blunderbuss? Yeah, blunderbuss is a type of weapon with a big... Yeah, with nails. You put nails in it, don't you? Blunderbuss. Yeah, you put nails in it. Blunderbuss.
Yeah. All right. I got some other stuff, but I'm open to your suggestions. Well, we do. I got these two clips from the Kevin.
Kevin Warsh. Oh, yeah. I watched. Confirmation here. This is kind of an aside. And then we can talk about.
Um.
number of ways to go after that. But let's get this out of the way. All right. The president's choice to lead the Federal Reserve says he would like the agency to do a little less. Kevin Warsh testified before a Senate committee Tuesday. He said the Fed could do a better job of curbing inflation and unemployment if it was more narrowly focused. One big question is who decides what the Fed does?
Warsh was nominated by a president who wants greater control over an independent agency. NPR's Scott Horsley remains independent and joins us now. Agency? Agency? Says who? Yeah, what kind of agency are we talking about? It's not a government agency. The Federal Reserve is not a government agency. Scott, good morning. Good morning. Good morning. What was the hearing like?
It was quite polarized. Committee Republicans mostly backed the nominee. Democrats were uniformly opposed. One question that came up again and again was whether Warsh would take marching orders from the president, who's been demanding lower interest rates. Here's GOP Senator John Kennedy of Louisiana. Are you going to be the president's human sock puppet? Senator, absolutely not. Are you going to be anybody's human sock puppet?
No, I'm honored the president nominated me for the position, and I'll be an independent actor if confirmed as chairman of the Federal Reserve. Moore says it's not unusual that Trump wants lower interest rates. He says most presidents do. And Moore says just because Trump is more outspoken than most other presidents, that's not a threat to the Fed's independence. Hold on a second. What outfit is reporting this? The NPR. All right. So they forgot.
To give you the bit before that, that Senator... Which you have, luckily. Of course I do. Here is Pocahontas. I try to end the independence of the Fed.
Because Trump's.
Thank you.
in the short term, and this is his last chance to do that before the November elections.
Having a sock puppet in charge of the Fed would also give the president access to the Fed's powerful authorities to enrich himself, his family, and his Wall Street buddies. It could mean granting special accounts to his family's crypto company or bailouts to his friends on Wall Street if they get into trouble.
a
under Donald Trump's control, creates more opportunities for Trump's corruption. It's interesting they didn't put that bit in. She was the impetus for the question. It might be in one of the other clips, but yeah, she's the one who brought up sock puppets.
They also didn't play it right.
They didn't play, in fact.
Hold on. It's short, but this is the full Kennedy quote, which was better. If I was working at NPR, I would have. OK, I would have chosen this one. The editing is no good. Professor, what's the sock puppet?
I heard the reference from Senator Warren. Yeah, what is it? I'm not sure I know. I think it's a thing you stick your hand in. Yeah, kind of like this. Yes. What's a human sock puppet? Isn't a human a sock puppet?
somebody will do what somebody else tells them to do. I think that's what the senator was trying to suggest. Are you going to be the president's human sock puppet? So what he does, you know, he shows his hand up the puppets. But, you know, that's the clip in PR week.
Yeah, well, it is weak.
I'm surprised that Warren, well, let's play clip two. Although we should mention Trump did more than speak. He's done a lot of things to try to get more control over the Fed. So are Democrats persuaded that this nominee would be independent? Well, that was exactly the point that Massachusetts Democrat Elizabeth Warren made. She says Trump hasn't just expressed an opinion. He's gone to great lengths to bend the central bank to his will. The president has repeatedly.
illegally attempted to take over the Fed. Illegally? His bogus attacks on Governor Lisa Cook and Chair Powell were designed to threaten all the members of the Fed. Now, so far, those efforts by the president have been blocked in the courts, but Trump's pressure campaign has raised alarm.
The Fed is supposed to be insulated from that kind of pressure so that it can do what's best in the long run for the economy, not just what's good until the next election. Aside from his independence, this is a chance to find out what it is that Warsh would want to do with this agency. How, if at all, does he want to change it?
Yeah, he thinks there is room for lower interest rates, but also a lower profile for the Fed. He suggests that policyholders at the central bank might hold fewer news conferences and give fewer speeches. And he wants to improve the data that they use to measure things like inflation. And he wants the Fed to scale back its investment in government debt. Oh, man, I hope there's more in this third clip because I watched a different.
hearing than NPR did, I guess.
It's the same here. It's just NPR has their perspective.
By the way, I should mention,
that having less press conferences would be a good thing.
The problem they have now is that when the chairman goes and does his press conference, the stock market is all paying attention for code words. And then it makes the market unstable. Less press conferences would dramatically lower Andrew Horowitz's blood pressure.
It would, for sure. He's always like...
And the market has this price in. Or we're expecting this. And nothing will happen. And they think it's going to say this. And what does this phrase mean exactly?
I'm down with that.
Play this last clip and then you can follow up with it.
What is Warsh saying about his own personal investments? Not a whole lot. He is worth more than $100 million. That doesn't count his wife, who's heir to the Estee Lauder fortune. But Warsh's financial disclosure form is pretty opaque about how and where that money is invested. Senator Warren grilled Warsh about whether he has financial ties to the Trump family or to China or even to Jeffrey Epstein. Senator, I have worked –
Carelessly with the ethics officials at the Office of Government Ethics. Yes, and you have not revealed $100 million in assets. I'm doing an ethics agreement with them and have agreed, Senator, to sell all of my financial assets. That's not my question. We're stuck with that question with a promise to sell those undisclosed assets before he starts working.
How soon would he start work? Well, possibly as early as next month.
But there's a big hurdle to clear first. Republican Tom Tillis insists he will not allow a vote on this nomination until the Justice Department drops that investigation of the Federal Reserve, which critics, including Tillis, say is just another way for the administration to put pressure on the Fed. Boy, OK. Well, Elizabeth Warren got her got her her her ISOs. That's what it's all about in these hearings.
Yeah, she's good. So there were two questions which I thought were reasonable. Let me see. This first one.
Let me see.
was asking this.
The question is about policy. Prices went up to the tune of 25 to 35 percent for virtually all deciles of the American people. That's an indication that the Fed missed its mark. And we are still dealing with the legacy of the policy errors in 2021 and 2022.
Once you let inflation take hold in the.
It's more expensive and harder to bring it down.
And so the fatal policy error going back four or five years is still a legacy that we're dealing with. We need, in my judgment, fundamental policy reforms to fix it. And while it's true that inflation is less problematic, meaning the rate of change in prices is less severe than it was some years ago, hardworking Americans are no doubt feeling it.
I think that means a regime change in the conduct of policy. I think that means a different new inflation framework. There's your headline, regime change. Yes, regime change. That would be a very good idea. And what exactly is inflation? Finally, someone who just says what it is. Does federal government spending have anything to do with inflation, Mr. Warsh?
Senator, as we talked about in your office, my view of inflation is a bit different from some. I don't think inflation comes about when the economy grows too much.
or hardworking Americans get an increase in their wages. I think inflation comes about when the government prints too much, by which I mean the central bank, and broadly speaking, the government spends too much. And so we're spending too much money, and now we've been cleaning up their mess ever since.
Yes.
Yes, that would be correct. Milton Friedman had that.
I wish I had, there is a clip.
Milton Friedman had a little
clip about
I guess it was during the Civil War, there was somebody, one state or somebody, just printing, printing, printing money, and they had endless inflation. And once they stopped printing money, it stopped. Inflation stopped dead. Amazing how that works.
Last clip. The reason why I prefer monetary policy to use interest rates as the dominant force is interest rates affect a far broader cross-section of the economy. Interest rates get in the cracks. If we were to cut rates.
then broader number of people will benefit from it versus quantitative easing, which tends to move through financial assets first.
Half of our fellow Americans don't own any financial assets, so they're wondering what's in it for them. Yes, lower interest rates. Exactly. I'm all for that.
Lower mortgage, lower car payments. It's a good idea.
They're going to fight him, I guess. Elizabeth Warren, she represents the entire banking industry.
She's no good.
uh so the gay general patton was also testifying did you get any of that
No, I got none of that. Oh, okay. So Scott Besant.
Uh,
He's a funny guy.
But he is in the fight with Operation Economic Fury.
And no one likes what Besant is doing. He's helping Putin.
We're about seven weeks into the war with Iran. And I wondered, Mr. Secretary, given that your department enforces sanctions, if you have a sense just how much Iran...
has gained through sanctions relief since the war began. I'll tell you, estimates are $14 billion. Now, President Trump's described the Obama-Iran deal as a disaster and a scandal because of the money Iran got, which was about $1.7 billion. I don't know how you describe $14 billion, but you don't have to read The Art of War to know that.
helping your adversaries gain money while you're at war is a terrible idea. And it's shocking to me that the countries currently profiting from the release of sanctions are our enemies. No country has profited more from this war than Russia. Oil and gas prices are up nearly 50% since February. And it'd be bad enough if Russia were just profiting from higher global oil prices.
But your Treasury Department lifted sanctions.
on Russian oil, giving them an extra $150 million a day in revenue. And those funds are going not just to kill Ukrainians, but Russia's using its profits to support Iran with drones and intelligence to kill our troops. Wait a minute, wait. When are Russians giving them drones? This is the king of the drone makers is Iran.
They're the drone, you know, gurus. Well, and they're the ones who supplied Russia with their drones. And so now Russia is giving what they just send the ones they sent back. So the distinguished gentleman from Delaware, Senator Chris Coons, Democrat, thinks he can fight gay General Patton, who does not come with a bazooka. He comes with his calculator.
Do you disagree that Iran has received significant additional revenue from their sales of oil because of sanctions relief? I couldn't disagree more. Okay. Do you disagree that Russia has received significant additional revenue from the sanctions relief? I couldn't disagree more. Okay.
Why did you relieve the sanctions against Russian and Iranian oil? Think of it this way, sir. There's the straight of foremost. Familiar with it. There is oil to the left and to the right. There is to the right. The Treasury was able to, just as you are concerned about gasoline prices for the American consumer and for our Asian allies, as are we.
Treasury was able to create.
They have more than 250 million barrels on the water. And the way to think about this is, as they came in today, the oil prices are at $100. If we had not done that sanctions early, they might have been at $150 because the world became very well supplied.
So if Russia was selling their oil at a 20% discount,
tell you that 100% of 100 is less than 80% of 150, and the American consumer has been better.
Senator.
You can't do math. Well, we also folks in Delaware are buying four dollar a gallon gas today. I don't see that we've seen a significant reduction in the price of the pump or the price on the world markets. But I have two more questions I want to get to. And I look forward to disputing with you the details.
I believe that Russia and Iran have benefited from the release of sanctions. And when you said we're not going to extend sanctions relief and then we're reversed, I was deeply disheartened because we shouldn't be funding Putin's war machine. I would like to take that was as a result. Last week was Bank Week, World Bank and IMF Week. John, we missed Bank Week?
Yeah, we miss bank week.
It's
And on Wednesday, it was my belief we would not do it. I was approached by more than 10 of the most vulnerable and poorest countries in terms of energy. And they asked us to extend that sanction. And it's only for 30 days.
30 days, $4.5 billion to Putin's war machine. Yes.
You're a Putin lover. You're all in with Putin.
This last clip was, I think, to me, the most interesting because this is where the U.S. dollar comes into play as it diminishes constantly as the reserve asset currency, reserve currency of the globe. But Gay General Patton has been requested to do things and he is doing them and it will save our bacon. Government of the UAE.
As I'm sure you probably know, President Trump and his family have done a very brisk business with the UAE over the last few years. There was the 500. Is this the right one? We understand that the UAE, a million dollars that Sheikh Tahnoon, the UAE's national security advisor and brother, the president, invested in World Liberty Financial, which is Trump.
family crypto venture right before the president's inauguration. There was the $2 billion in World Liberty stable coin.
used to invest in Binance, a deal that effectively handed world liberty.
billion in cash at the same time that the United States government relaxed our export controls on high-end AI.
and ships to UAE companies. And now...
I understand that the UAE is looking for...
A swap line.
The war in Iran has already cost us dearly.
In my view, it's been a huge mistake, made us less safe.
a lot worse off. In addition to lives lost, we're talking about over a billion dollars a day in taxpayer money.
We're talking about higher gas prices. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
higher prices overall and now given we understand that the u_a_a_ is asking
you to provide them a swap line. So just so people understand, this is not like money we're going to give them a swap line as we get their reals, which are pegged to the dollar. So it's exactly the same thing. It's just giving them U.S. dollars to, well, Scott Besson will explain. Through the exchange stabilization.
Mr. Secretary, can you talk about this request and whether or not
you expect to
support it.
Senator, I would dispute much of what you earlier said and any linkages to this swap line. Many of our Gulf allies have requested swap lines. You would have just read about the UAE and swap lines, whether it's from the Federal Reserve or the Treasury, are to maintain order in the dollar funding markets and to prevent the sale.
of the US assets in a
Yeah, right.
disorderly way. So the swap line would both benefit the UAE and the US. And as I said, numerous other countries, including some of our Asian allies have also requested them.
All oil in U.S. dollars, exactly.
That's exactly the right thing to do.
senators.
They do not know anything.
No, they don't. They really don't.
you doing? That's Trump. It's making Trump rich.
All right.
We can talk about Iran, or I got these Vax clips I wanted to get out of the way. Vax clips? Oh, okay. Let's talk about the Vax for a while. We haven't. What you got in Vax land? Well, I got the, I actually have one I want to play from the last show. I didn't move it over.
But let's start with this.
This is the
Yeah, this is the...
Let's start with the Ron Johnson going after the vaxxers. Finally, let's just put up this graph. Because of your radical transparency, I've got close to 11 million pages. We uncovered they hid the signal on myocarditis.
We also just recently uncovered that they also hit a signal on ischemic stroke for people over 65, the tail in 2022, 2023. They hit both signals. They downplayed them. But what is most alarming, and we'll be holding a hearing on this next week, I've got a draft report. They were made aware, Peter Marks was made aware on March 26th of 2021 that the...
of the algorithm that analyzes the various data was going to mask adverse events. He was told that by using a different system, they had uncovered 49 examples of extreme masking.
significant adverse events, including sudden cardiac death, Bell's palsy, pulmonary infarction.
So this report will be issued in conjunction with that hearing. Again, I didn't need a sophisticated mathematical model to tell me that we had safety signals screaming at us. This chart shows the deaths associated with vaccines all the way going back to 1990 when Bayer started, a couple hundred a year.
that type of thing. 2021, over 20,000 deaths and for five years, FDA has been saying, we don't see a signal.
This was a signal screaming at us that to this very day, we are covering up.
are a bunch of people involved in this cover-up that still continue to work within the HHS, CDC, FDA. I want your commitment that those people be made available for interviews. I'll have to subpoena others.
going to dig into this massive government.
You have my commitment. Thank you. Yeah. Nothing will come of it.
But there it is. Now you have to look this one up. This is called.
Vax study batches.
Two shows ago.
Vax study.
Hmm.
Vax... Batches maybe?
That's odd, John. I don't see it. Oh, spell study with two Ts. Oh.
Uh, no. Vax? Is it Vax with one X?
V-A-X, all caps.
AX space space. Yeah. S T. I'm sorry. I don't have it. S T T U D Y. I don't have this clip.
I can, you have to. From how long ago is it? Two shows ago. Well, let me go look in that bin. Hold on a second.
take me but a second. So from 1860.
you have from 419.
I have vaccine food.
And VAC study bachelor should be right under it. No, it's not in there. Well, then it got moved up one maybe, but I didn't see it anyplace else. Uh. It'll be on the next show then.
Okay, hold on. That would be...
1861, the last one.
And I see there we have...
Oh, interesting. Yep, I have it. Okay, we got it. We now have peer-reviewed published data by Schmeling and colleagues from Denmark, basically a bombshell study. They found that 4.2% of the batches, of the doses that were dosed out of that batch...
counted for skyrocketing serious adverse events, hospitalization, and death. That was 4.2%.
In a sense, really bad batches. There was about two-thirds of batches that were moderate, pretty low risk, moderate. And then, interestingly, a third, zero. There was basically that line didn't come up. They took a shot and nothing happened. Nothing happened.
Yeah. Well, we had reports. Which brings me to the point I've been wanting to make. Okay. Which is liability.
This brings us back to the good old days with the swine flu vax that one of these companies released, if you recall. That was just swine flu. You get shot, you get swine flu. It killed people. Yeah, it killed people.
But there's no – they've got – why can't they talk about liability more?
Even McCullough, who was there, he was the one giving that yakety yak.
He doesn't mention it.
It needs to be mentioned all the time. You can't bring a product out and sell it to the public.
Without liability. You can't be.
you know, indemnified by the government for bringing out crap.
Okay, I'm done with that. Well, you know, RFK Jr. has promised he's going to take care of all that. Yeah, he hasn't done anything. Well, the only thing he did, just before you get to your next Vax clip.
You know, they did sign that executive order.
about disclosing all of the...
side effects of, uh,
know, in your advertising.
Oh, that'll do it.
By your theory, by the way, by your theory.
That would just draw people to the Vax.
That's your cigarette theory.
Yeah.
That theory, yeah, you're right. So it's either ban or nothing.
You're right.
Whenever you say it's going to kill you, people want it. It's crazy. Yeah. It's like Ozempic. I'm a tough guy. Tough guy. Ozempic, literally. You don't want to have sex. You get eye cancer. Your liver goes to crap. Your pancreas fails.
Want to look good?
You're looking good.
Now, this last one is just kind of an aside, but I think it's pretty funny.
This is them, you've seen this character.
He's McCullough's right-hand man. He's this kind of dull guy.
who talks with, he's just an adult guy. And he's talking about, this is the Vax flu shot.
Causes dementia. The largest single study ever conducted on vaccines and dementia with over 13 million people in it found that vaccinated adults who got flu shots and pneumococcal shots, they faced a 50% increased risk of Alzheimer's and a 38% increased risk of dementia.
And the risk increased the more doses they got. So they started to get more flu shots that they lined up every year to get it.
Unfortunately, they face the highest risks of neurodegenerative conditions. No way. And the risk persisted for over 10 years. And so it appears, you know, once you receive so many of these shots, it is inducing neuroinflammatory injury, dementia and Alzheimer's in vaccinated adults. So not only now do we know that the flu shot.
doesn't work according to Shrestha and colleagues out of the Cleveland Clinic flu shots increase your risk of flu by 27% so not only do they do that but now it appears that they increase your risk of dementia which is absolutely terrible holy mackerel you didn't hear that one no
And we have a dementia epidemic in our country.
Yeah. And in Europe, I know lots of people who have.
parents who have early onset dementia. Wow.
You probably have a lot of your friends who have just gone cuckoo.
Well, losing their minds. It's getting there. I mean, it depends. I don't know personally that many people that line up for the flu shot every year anymore. But if you have a precondition of being a Democrat.
Yeah, well, that's true.
it worse.
Wow.
Oh, that's, oh, man.
Again, liability, flu shot, who knows what's in the thing. That is, besides the fact that you have a higher chance of getting the flu. Yeah, well, that's the joke of it. Oh, man. That's almost humorous. That is just so lame.
So I listened to the new podcast.
The Carlson kids. Have you heard this podcast? No, I heard about it.
I had no idea Tucker's brother's name is Buckley.
How white can you get? Well, how Tucker and Buckley. Here's my son, Tucker, and here's my other son, Buckley. Let's go have a spot of something good.
I don't know if it's just white or just DC.
You know?
Buckley. If you're in D.C. and their dad was, you know, he ran. He was a spook. Yeah, he was a spook. He ran the broadcast board of Governors Voice of America. Yeah, that was a good job. It was a great job. We'd be very good at it. I think so. If it still existed, they fired everybody, shut it down, I guess, kind of.
Some people had to be unfired, so I don't know.
um
But I think if you're in D.C. and you're probably thinking, oh, I just William F. Buckley, he is just so awesome. I think, oh, why don't we, honey, why don't we name our son Buckley? Maybe we'll get invited to the party. Maybe we'll get invited to the cocktail party.
So.
Both conservative, apparently. And these clips are relatively short.
But both are just so disappointed. They just feel like they've been betrayed. Betrayed by Trump. Where a lot of people who really like Trump are very disappointed in Trump. In fact, more than disappointed, feel betrayed or enraged. Feel like suckers. Feel like they've been taken for a ride. How could I possibly have supported that given what it became?
and thumped a couple times. A lot of people seem to feel that way. But do a lot of people seem to feel that way? Do they actually feel that way? According to polls... They did. Now, there's a... Wait.
can't put forth a thesis that is kind of –
assertive and then then ask the question am i right am i wrong you can do that on a podcast
You can do anything you want on a podcast.
A lot of people seem to feel that way.
Do a lot of people seem to feel that way? Do they actually feel that way?
According to polls on CNN, 100% of MAGA voters still support Trump. 100%.
Is that real? Well, it's really hard to know given how fraudulent so much polling is. So we thought we would speak to the one person we know who sincerely supported Trump from the very beginning. Wrote speeches for Trump in 2015, voted for Trump three times.
New people within the Trump White House worked with the Trump White House. Nick Fuentes, you said for the writing speeches, is the same – he voted for Trump three times. All wrong.
I already had Nick on. This is a new guest. We've never had this guest on the show. That period, 10 years, supported Trump in public, not on television, which is easy, but in his own neighborhood, which was 100% Trump haters.
That person is my brother, it turns out. Buckley Carlson, Uncle Buck, as he's known to us.
Buck, Chuck, you don't have brothers or sisters, but I would never call my brother uncle anything.
I don't have a brother. I wouldn't call him Aunt Tiffany, Aunt Willow. No.
Anyway, so here's Buckley.
And you can imagine what the breaking point was. What broke these men? What was the breaking point for you? Really, initially, it was the attack.
The attack on Iran. Why is he laughing over that?
He laughs at it. He also has the same intonations that Tucker does in his voice. Yeah, it's a million.
It was the attack. And he also stretches words like was the. That's an important DC thing. Yeah. I'm never going to get through these. It's 26 seconds. No, you're not. Not with this guy. It was the.
The attack on Iran initially last year.
I guess we successfully eradicated all of their nuclear capability. You aware? Because it was still on. I'd heard that. It may still be on the White House website because it was on there even when we engaged.
This latest war with Iran, this unnecessary, what will be probably a forever war that has killed Americans and is going to degrade us as a country.
Um, significantly. Already has. Speculation? Significantly. Already has. I don't know.
It's a betrayal of the promises. That's what it is, because politicians never betray anybody with their campaign promises. President Trump has come through on a number of them, but this one was the breaking point. What? And then the war in Iran, which clearly, you know, had no plan for wasn't enthusiastic about at all. He was fully aware of the risks. He was fully aware that it was a betrayal of his explicit promises for 10 years not to do.
this he did it okay
So he didn't want to do it.
No, he said he really didn't want to. He wanted to negotiate and he gave him two weeks and then he struck him early. But you're kind of leading towards something, I think, here, Tucker.
He did it against his will. That's my against his will. Ah, OK. Highly informed read. Highly informed read.
Okay. Yes. What? Yes. He did it against his will. This goes back to the New York Times.
He was – Bibi Netanyahu controls Donald Trump. Oh, OK. Yeah, there you go. Sorry. This is what it is. He did it against his will. That's my highly informed read. Yes. I mean I could be wrong. My highly informed read.
He goes, it's my highly informed, which is like a cheat word.
We don't know if it's highly informed or not. But he says it is, so it must be. You and I are reliably informed, and he is only highly informed. I think our reliably trumps his highly. We don't know that.
I'm going to, I'm informed. I am.
I mean, I could be wrong. You know, you don't know what people's motives actually are. Could be wrong. Could be wrong. Weasel. From very close vantage, I can say I don't think he was excited about it.
did it.
Clearly he felt he had no choice. So, and I think that's widely understood. Yes. Yeah. Yes. But I have no sympathy for him.
No, but this is all leading to one thing. Israel. It's still reprehensible and it's still a big question mark. Why would someone who has obvious and demonstrated allegiance to a foreign power?
Donald Trump, $250 million while he's running for president. I mean, how is that defensible? It's really not. If Russia... Wait a minute.
How much money did Kamala Harris get in like three weeks? Two billion dollars? One point five.
Billion.
you know, if,
The mayor of Moscow had somehow, you know, assembled an enormous amount of money and put it in a 501 C-3 for Trump's benefit. Would that have been acceptable? Of course it wouldn't have been. Where were you when it came down to Hunter Biden getting the money from the mayor of Moscow? What kind of analogy is this? So what does someone, it's so basic, comes back to the money. Like, what did they get?
for that.
amount of investment.
The accusation here, I think, is because he got $250 million from a Jew, Miriam Adelson.
That that is the reason why he went to war in Iran. He got more money from Musk. For $250 million into a...
So what does someone, it's so basic. Just make me president, Miriam, and I'll hit Iran for you. I got other things to do, but I'll hit Iran, I promise you.
back to the money? Like, what did they get in return?
amount of investment. And it's clear. I get it. No, I mean, of course, I agree with every word that you're saying. I just think you should say that given his John, could you say that more often to me?
I agree with every word you say. You have to say, of course, I agree with every 100%. Of course, I agree with every word you say. 100%. I agree with everything you're saying. I'm not using 100%. Oh, come on. It's racist. For that amount of investment. And it's clear. I get it. No, I mean, of course, I agree with every word that you're saying. I just think, given his behavior.
and has demonstrated disloyalty and viciousness to previous supporters. Yes. Why wouldn't he display the same lack of loyalty to Miriam Adelson? What? I mean, that's kind of the question. The only people he's been loyal to.
Are the neocons and his donors.
He's attacked, you know, so he attacks Islam.
Some of us stand up and say, probably she didn't attack Islam. I don't know. He said praise be to Allah. Yeah, I was said attacking Islam.
I mean, what's her name? The actress said, Inshallah, the other day.
for the new Devil Wears Prada 2 movie.
And Hathaway. So is that an attack on Islam? Who knows? The only people he's been loyal to are the neocons and his donors. So he's attacked, you know, so he attacks Islam. Some of us stand up and say.
shouldn't be attacking a religion oh you're a muslim secret muslim you love muslim yes you are
This is...
You do love Muslims. I love lots of Muslims. No. Just I like reverence and I don't think you should attack people on the basis of their religion. Don't attack their religion. Yes. And all these like evangelicals are like, oh, you're a Muslim.
So next week he attacks Jesus. OK, because it's all he attacks Jesus.
When did he attack Jesus? That's the Messiah meme. He attacked Jesus. Oh, the AI art. Yes, he attacked Jesus. And all these evangelicals are like, oh, you're a Muslim. The next week he attacks Jesus. Attacks. Okay, because it's all connected, right? Clearly. Of course. Well, yeah.
Obviously. Well, right. But the one person he's never going to attack is Rebby Schneerson. A Jew. Yes. Who? Rebby Schneerson. Rebby Schneerson? It's a Jew. He's not an attack. And then what about Saul Goldberg? How about that? How about Saul Goldstein? Remember him? Oh, yeah. What was his show? Channel J?
person. Oh, no, no. Goldstein, you're talking about the guy who was on... Screw Magazine? Yeah, Goldstein. He was...
or one of them, he had some magazine, he had
show on public access New York where he just groused and he's like, hey, I'm getting ripped off by and he tells some story about some company that owes him money. It was a great guy. Yeah, he was very funny. The person he's never going to attack is Rebby Schneerson. Yes. Oh, yeah. And, you know, the Chabad leader who's...
but who I'm not attacking, by the way.
But who is regarded as the Messiah by many of his followers. I don't think Trump should attack him, to be clear.
That's the one Messiah he will never attack.
So like, what is that?
Am I wrong? No, you're not wrong.
Right. So their whole thing is Israel. This is a podcast they put on the air. Two hours of it. Two hours. Two guys agreeing with each other. Yeah, it was pretty boring, but I sat through it.
I want to contrast that.
With an interview from Associated Press, and I pulled three clips, but I'm only going to play one, and it's enough. And this is Eric Weinstein, also conservative. I think probably— Oh, Eric, this guy's lost the plot. Well, he said something really interesting in this interview. He's a wild card.
There are three people who are doing amazing versions of the drunken boxing game. Kanye, who's probably...
the first one to really fail, Elon and Donald Trump. And all three of them tried to do something where you couldn't pin them down, you couldn't figure out
like what they were going to do next. And that's what the order keeps trying to do. Like, will you commit to this? Will you say this? Will you mouth these words? And none of these people would play the game. So that's what Donald Trump is. He's a guy who's got formulas that confuse people like Sam Harris. I think that Trump is an incredibly intelligent man.
There's incredible method in his tweets of old. You can just you can put them into a data set and you say that there are five or six different types of tweets and then the left falls for every one of them every time.
What if the one figure everyone called unpredictable was actually the most calculated player on the board?
Eric Weinstein flips the narrative, arguing that Donald Trump wasn't random.
He was strategically unreadable.
Weinstein compares Trump to a drunken boxing master.
Impossible to anticipate. Impossible to trap.
While critics saw chaos, he sees pattern. Messaging designed to confuse opponents, disrupt expectations, and force the system into reacting instead of controlling. And I agree with that. That is what I call the Trump algo.
And I think you agree with it mostly. Yeah. And he does this over and over again, and that's what the yelling is.
We're going to, you know, I'm going to bomb civil or Iran will no longer be a civilization. So, you know, so many people got upset. How can you condemn Hillary Clinton for laughing about Gaddafi being killed, but you don't condemn Trump for saying he's going to wipe a whole civilization off the face of the map? I said, well, two reasons. One, he didn't do it and we knew he wouldn't.
And we said he wouldn't do it, too. He didn't laugh.
He wasn't laughing about it. He wasn't laughing about a guy being killed and then a rifle stuck up his butt, which is what they did.
So.
I personally think, and you know, this is, people go, oh, he's doing 5D, 7D, go and chess. Nah. He's strategic. He has patterns.
And I personally believe that this president is getting rid of the they that we always talk about. And the they is not a person. It's not Soros.
It's not China. It's an entire system. It's a whole system that's been around for well over 100 years. And he's breaking things apart systematically. And he does not care what Tucker and Buckley think of him. He's doing it ultimately for my grandchild, the way I see it. And this pattern emerged on CNBC when he was grousing about.
the Supreme Court.
overruling of his tariffs. You know, we had a little setback with the Supreme Court. They said I can charge tariffs, but I have to do it a different way.
And because of what they did, we have to pay back $160 billion. All they had to do is add one sentence, just one sentence. And that's you don't have to pay anything taken in thus far back.
But because they didn't add, and by the way, it was a close call, too. There were justices that were powerful that I was right on the tariffs. But because we lost by just two votes, you know, just.
Little vote, two votes. We have to pay back $165 billion. They could have with a little one sentence. You don't have to pay back tariffs that have already been received. You start from this point and you do it a different way. So we're doing it a different way.
So the grousing is about that he has to pay it back. And all the mainstream was like, oh, get your money back. Got to pay the money back. Trump's a loser. And what he's not saying in this clip, he's not saying the tariffs are important for our country, for national security. He just offhandedly says, I got to do it a different way. He mentions two Supreme Court justices, the two that he.
nominated Gorsuch and Amy Coney Barrett.
And I think they may have been in on this because just this week I got this email from the oil baron. And he says,
What? What are you talking about? Run on pipe, man.
The tariffs are too...
Sheriffs, had you even heard about this? No, tell me. So the 230, so when Trump says, yeah, I got to do that a different way. Well, boy, did he. And this was by executive order, but it came through a recommendation that has to come from the Commerce Secretary. Oh, isn't that coincidental? That's a lot, Nick.
And the change in 232 tariffs is significant and very significant to the oil baron because it changes the tariffs on steel products.
And before – so the way it used to be –
is you paid 50% on the percentage of steel in a product.
And now we change it to 50% on the entire product if it contains steel.
Big deal. It's a huge deal. There's also...
There's 25% on downstream products. So if it's foreign steel, it's auto parts, then it's only 25%. 10% if the metal is melted and poured in the United States. So there's all kinds of different tariffs. 15%, under 15%, there's no tariff.
But it puts in place a system that reinvigorates, and this is what he promised to do, reinvigorates American steel. There's billions of dollars in steel plants coming online right now. They'll be fully operational by 2027, 2028.
Yeah, the executive order could be overturned by the next president or you could have a congressional order to vote to overturn that. Right. But I don't think – Yeah, you could put it in play permanently. I don't think West Virginia will vote. It's like the steel-producing states will never vote for this, and it would be suicide because this will create –
I believe hundreds of thousands of jobs. And I have a couple of clips here from the steel industry executive. You know, this is a lobbying. You know, it's a it's an industry group. So take it for what it is. And he kind of explains how fantastic this change is. Now, this President Trump has signed an executive order to revamp his tariffs on steel, copper and aluminum.
The White House calls it a move to strengthen economic and national security. Brandon Ferris joins me now. He is the Steel Manufacturers Association executive vice president. All right, Brandon, great to have you here. What do these developments really mean for manufacturing and affordability? Tell us.
Ashley, thank you so much for having us. And we are energized. The steel industry is energized. This is one of the most exciting times in recent history to be involved in the American steel industry.
President Trump has done more for the 87,000 men and women who make America steel than any president in modern history. And what he did last week, it was a necessary move. It wasn't optional. He moved the full value of the tariffs to the full product. Before, it was based on percentage of steel.
And we saw bad faith importers underreporting the value and avoiding paying the full tariff. And now they will be paying the full tariff.
And the 232s are paying off for the American steel industry. Yes, this is a great gambit. Listen how much has been invested. Brandon, because there were so many critics of the tariffs saying it's a tax and the American consumer is going to ultimately pay the price. But how successful do you think the tariffs have been in accomplishing the goal that they set out to do?
Ashley, what we believe is the president's signature trade achievement.
is the 232 steel tariffs. And they have been historically successful. Over the last few years in our industry, they've driven $25 billion in investments.
and they will put online an additional 4 million tons of steel capacity. And what does that mean? Putting that into perspective, with that additional 4 million tons of steel capacity, you can build 1,000 guided missile destroyers for the Navy.
That's not just economic might. That is national security, Ashley. And there's your big, beautiful ships that we're going to build. And we will build them. And you do need steel as national security. And here come the jobs. And what about manufacturing jobs in this country, Brandon? Have we seen a turnaround on that level?
Absolutely we have. We've got some very impressive job numbers from March. We're going to continue seeing that as the president's trade policy continues to reshore American manufacturing.
The steel industry, those $25 billion in investments, those are going to create tens of thousands of jobs. For every steel job you have, you have six or seven throughout the value chain. And we're going to continue increasing those manufacturing jobs throughout our economy. So for the Carlson kids.
I think that this was part of the plan all along. He knew that he would never be able to these tariffs. They're not going to last through another administration. The ones that he had put 10 percent here, 50 percent here, 100 percent there. That was just to get everybody, you know, draw them all in. And then this 232 that was done without any big brouhaha. No one reported on it, but they're permanent for all intents and purposes.
And by 2028, when there's when there's a new president, regardless of who it is, you won't turn that back.
then yeah, yes, is it gonna cost more? I'm sorry, oil baron, I love him, he's my brother. But okay, you've had a good ride, you can take a little less profit.
because of your run on pipe for the next two, three years. And then, you know, it will make no sense to buy inferior steel from South Korea or from China, wherever else you get it from. It'll be American steel. And I think it will reinvigorate our country.
And I like it. Sounds like a good catch. I like it. I like it a lot. And, you know, Trump never going to suck them off.
Well, you know, I got a grandkid coming, so I like it. I don't mind. Yeah, I'll take the pain.
I will lay face down in the mud so my grandchildren can walk over my back.
I got one last little thing here to discuss.
Yeah, you're going to make the sacrifice. I like that. John's like, hey, Theodorable, get off my back.
What are you walking on my back for, kid?
I just want to get this one thing, the cigarette thing out of the way. Cigarette thing? Yeah, the...
I got one short clip, I think, that covers it. Yeah, WBAL-TV, Baltimore, UK ban on smoking for anyone born after 2008.
like the Maldives and Bhutan have enacted total tobacco bans, but with a population of nearly 70 million people, this ban in the UK could have serious and long-term impacts. Under the tobacco and vape spill, the legal age for buying tobacco will increase by one year every year, starting with people born on or after January 1st, 2009.
This means children in the UK who are 17 or younger will never be able to legally buy cigarettes. I've seen this report and, you know, people like.
kids smoke
It's about purchasing. They're not going to arrest you if you're smoking on the street. Well, let's see. The other thing is this.
Mimi dug up an interview with the head of Philip Morris from, I don't know, 10 years ago. Yeah.
And he predicted this because the company, and nobody's covered this at all, and Philip Morris may be behind this, may be an op. They don't want to sell cigarettes and tobacco products. It's always tobacco products anymore because they sell the straight-up chemicals in vapes. Yes, they want to sell the nicotine. And they sell the little chewy thing you put in your mouth. Yeah, the pods. Yes.
Yeah, instead of the tobacco chew, there's no tobacco. Because tobacco products are a pain in the ass. They're staying on the shelves. People aren't buying them anyway. They're buying the vapes. And the way the CEO told it, there's a clip I could have, but it's hard to clip. It was, we got China. Our tobacco product's fine. We make tobacco products for China. Those guys love smoking.
I love smoking. Nobody else does. Everyone else wants to vape.
They want to chew on a ball, you know, that kind of thing. So the whole thing is.
Chew on a ball? I think filled with nicotine salts.
Vaping.
Yeah, you do. You're a big vapor. There's a lot to be said about you. You used to smoke like you were a smoker. I would tell that.
class. You know, Adam used to not only smoke.
But he was a dilettante about it.
And he liked to roll his own.
That's because I was rolling weed in it. I wasn't just smoking tobacco. Yeah, you were rolling weed in it, but it was always this rigmarole. You didn't use a little machine to make a cool-looking cigarette. No, that's gay. You rolled it with hand rolls. That's gay. No, man, I've been rolling my own since I was 15 years old. He did a little roll. He's rolling his own. It looks just like they all do. They look like shit. No
They were spliffs, in fact. That is the traditional name for what I would smoke. And I enjoyed it very much.
And I'm amazed that Tina married me, despite me being a...
wake and bake guy.
It was amazing. She even decided to – Waken, baby.
that one. Oh, John, I would wake up at three in the morning. These days, since I quit smoking, I sleep like a baby. I sleep all the way through, you know, seven and a half hours if I'm really lucky, but six and a half, seven hours. I wake up with my own accord before the alarm. But when I was smoking weed, I would take a 50 milligram gummy, go to bed.
with.
And then I'd wake up at 3 in the morning like, I'm awake. I'd go out on the porch, smoke a whole joint, go back to bed.
It was pretty severe. Now. That's bad. You would say that I was a lot more fun back in the day.
But I don't. I would. Well, you would have. But I don't think I don't think I've changed that much.
I don't think you changed that much either. To be honest about it, you're pretty much – I don't think that the we thing was –
I think it was just habitual. I wasn't really affecting your personality to any extent, except, you know, when you first smoke sometimes.
Remember the time you were out in front of Mevio, smoking a joint, and as the employees wandered in whenever they felt like.
Hey, you'd always greet him. Hey, I'm glad you could finally make it to work.
One after the other. And did that stop pretty quick after I was sitting out there smoking my weed and telling them that I was happy they could finally make it? No, not really. Yes, it did. It made a difference. It went out of business anyway.
It wasn't a great idea. You're ahead of your time is the reason. No, no one's making money on podcast networks.
Yeah, they're making money by selling to other dummies. Well, yes, there's that. But that's been that has always been my plight. I'm always 10 years too early. Yeah, look at that guy. He made a billion dollars.
you
Now, we went public in 1996. Woo! You know, two years later, people, you know, Mark Cuban made $10 billion on selling a domain name.
I was the first one.
No.
Face it. I think it was $3 billion.
Okay. This is my plight. This is what it is. Yeah, Cuban had the domain. Mark Cuban's claim to fame. Broadcast.com. He put up the domain name broadcast.com.
Pretty much. Yeah, I think it was Yahoo that said, well, we'll give you a couple billion for it. Yeah. Okay.
That was how he made his fortune. He was live streaming. He's a marketing genius. He's a business genius. Yes, he was live streaming radio stations.
and selling ads around it, then he would literally go to the stations and say, I'm becoming a billionaire off of your product. Thanks.
And they went, okay, Mark. Okay. Sounds good.
No, maybe I'm not shrewd enough. I'm a podcast. Let's face it. That's what I am. I've always been a disc jockey. I started when I was 13.
I was a disc jockey then. I was a disc jockey on TV. And I'm a disc jockey now. It's your calling. Call it what you want.
That's what I call it. I have one oddball clip that nobody's covering. Okay. This one is unreported news. Unreported. Zelensky, stolen art. On March 22nd, three paintings by French masters Cezanne Renoir and Matisse worth more than $10 million were stolen from a museum near the Italian city of Parma.
The theft has since been investigated by Italy's Carabinieri and the Cultural Heritage Protection Unit. Surprisingly, less than a month after the heist, one of the stolen paintings, a cup and plate of cherries by Paul Cezanne, appeared in one of President Zelensky's videos.
Presumably recorded on April 16th, the video shows Zelensky addressing Ukrainians with a stolen painting appearing on a wall directly behind his back. The video was published on the official website of the president of Ukraine, but has since been removed. This is a rare case of a stolen painting reappearing in public.
Chris Marinello, founder of Art Recovery International, says that a very small percentage of stolen art is ever found. Five to 10 percent of all.
art that's stolen is ever recovered, which is why we need to start focusing more on prevention. He also confirms that stolen art often ends up in countries where the rule of law is weak. They move them on through Belgium or Eastern Europe, countries where due diligence is not often practiced as it is in the West. Yeah. Yeah. Can you believe that he's got this stolen art?
Corrupt operation.
You know, there's no focus on him right now. That's the problem.
Yeah, I know it's been taken away.
Yeah. You know, and Trump is only helping Putin kill Ukrainians. So.
Hey, with that fine little clip that no one's reporting about, I'd like to thank you for your courage. Say in the morning to you, the man who put the C in the Carlson kid. Say hello to my friend on the other end, the one, the only Mr. Still Alive.
Well, in the morning, Mr. Adam Green, morning, ship of sea, boots of ground, feet of air, something's in the water, dames and knights out there. In the morning to you trolls over there in the troll room. Let me count you for a second. Don't move. There we go.
1377 in the troll room listening live.
Noagendastream.com. I've been troubleshooting. One of our producers is like, I can't hear the stream. I'm getting kicked out. It's up at DAPA.
How can I help?
Do I keep getting kicked out?
Well, are you listening in a podcast app like a modern podcast at podcastapps.com? Are you listening on a – I listen at noagenda.com. Okay. We don't actually have that domain name. If you have a technical problem, you need to learn to describe a little bit what's going on.
It's, you know, I am the help desk for no agenda. I'm the first line of defense before I toss it over my shoulder and say void zero help.
Zero is just one of the many people who help make this show what it is. I mentioned at the top of the show, if you're listening right now, this is a value for value podcast. And people have been helping us for over 18 years in so many different ways.
No one's a listener. Everybody's a producer. Everybody has an obligation. When it comes around to you and we're talking about something that you know that you're an expert in, you need to email us, which means email me, adamatcurry.com, because no one can spell Dvorak.
And it's not Dvorak.com.
Huh.
times as that happened.
My email's getting bounced from John at Dvorak.com.
Is there a Dvorak.com? Do you have that? You should have that.
Actually, I do own it. I believe it's never used. Some guy bought it for you and gave it to me, and I'm not sure who.
I'm not sure where the registration is. I said to look it up. I went into it. No, I used .org for a reason. I'm a .org, not a...
You're a dad-o-g kind of guy. I checked curry.com today. It doesn't expire until 2030.
That's good. I'm good.
So at that point, I'm done.
got to end this sometime
How about you?
How about you? We've looked for so many exit strategies. At a certain point, won't we just be old and tired and just like... We went to 2030. They won't even... The whole... This is... Nah. 20... Let's get through the next election. I'm not doing another presidency.
We can't do another presidency. That's 2028. OK. I was thinking like 2027 somewhere, you know, before before we get to the. I make my wife nervous. Stop it.
Mimi's got five businesses she's running. She doesn't need you, the talent.
John's the talent. We just do everything around him. I love your family. Your family's great.
So just like the Dvorak family, everybody here pitches in and does something for the show. And we ask you to support us by returning the value that you receive from the media deconstruction that we do, which I would say someone emailed me and said, you're not keeping to your promise.
What is our promise, John?
We promise to deliver.
unbiased news deconstruction no no no no no two hours and 45 minutes no what does the faq say
does the FAQ.
He says we do-- I didn't even know I wrote it. Yes, we do media deconstruction.
Well, somehow that morphed into you do fair and balanced media deconstruction. So now that's Fox News stuff, which is a lie. Oh, yeah. Yeah. It doesn't matter. Fair and balanced. No fair and balanced bull crap. I'm very unbalanced, in fact.
We are who we are. And what we don't do is we don't get captured by the audience like Megyn Kelly, Tucker Carlson, all these guys.
Yeah, and started hating Jews for no good reason.
You know, we don't care.
Remember Ukraine? Man, I got flack in Texas for that.
Good man, Putin man, he meanie.
That's exactly what they said. The guy had a hair lip, basically, right? Pretty much. There were Ukraine flags everywhere.
Like, no, this is a scam. Remember the Ukraine flags in Congress, which I think is illegal. Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, Ukraine flags everywhere. I think huge Ukraine flags in dripping spring. No, Ukraine is one big corrupt country. Always has been. Always has been.
And it was us. It was Victoria Nuland. It was Brennan. It was Lindsey Graham. They always want, they hate Russia. They want to invade Russia and take Russia's riches. And you still hear Coons.
our number one enemy, Russia. No, he's not. He's not.
We're going to do lots of business. Here's how that call went about the oil that Scott Besson lifted the sanctions on. Here's how that went.
Vlad, it's Donald.
Listen, we're going to release the sanctions. Whatever you do, don't give it to the Europeans. Okay, Donald, good idea.
This sells to Japan. Everybody got oil from Russia, China, but not the EU.
And they don't deserve it.
They're stupid.
cutting off the oil and gas from Russia. How stupid are they?
This is a question you need to answer. They're very stupid. Very stupid.
You just have the hard-on.
hard on for Russia and for renewables.
Windmills. Yeah, let's shut down the nuclear power plants in Germany. And see what happens. Yeah. What could possibly go wrong?
That's right. See Brooklyn.
So, yes, time, talent, treasure. As I said, many people put a lot of time and talent into doing things for us. And that includes artists. Now, it used to be really hard what the artist did. It's gotten a lot easier just prompting some stuff back and forth. I think did if I remember correctly, did we choose another Darren O compilation here? Let me check. Yeah.
Episode 1861, we titled that The Cone of Uncertainty. This got some good traction on TheX.com, which is the only social network I ever look at and pretty much only my inbox or my mentions.
And it was indeed Darren O'Neill. But he nailed it. The classic road signs, which were well done in this case. No agenda, current Dvorak, and then a digital sign. Welcome to Canada. Would you like to die today? And a nice little Canadian maple leaf in the corner.
And a lot of Canadians responded saying, unfortunately, this is true.
It was like the reality was pressed in front of them. They went, yeah, yeah, it kind of does suck what we're doing over here.
So it worked. It worked. It was well done. Good idea, Darren. We appreciate it.
Take a quick look at no agenda art generator.
to see if there wasn't really anything else. That's what I'm checking.
I like something and you nixed it. It was Constance Granger, the straight of whore moose, which was a toll booth. Yeah, you're right. It didn't take much to talk me out of it. If it wasn't a moose head. Well, it was a moose.
There's a pun, but the pun was in the title. Yes, dressed as a hooker. And if you look at the title, whore moose, as in a moose that is a whore.
It's funny, but just the art by itself, no one's going to get this. I mean, it's more like one of those riddles.
What is it called? There's a particular kind of cartoon. They must have a term for it.
where it's something you have to think about. We can't have people thinking about our art.
We just can't.
I will say that Rocket Boys, No Agenda Floss Free Zone, I think that was used in the newsletter.
That was pretty funny.
That was good. I like that one.
Dana Brunetti thought that was one of the funniest things he'd ever heard.
What? That I busted you for flossing your teeth on the show. Yeah, he said it was – I guess cracked him up. Maverick, my periodontist, says, what is this? What is this? You're telling people to stop flossing? This is no good. He got so much response. You can't floss while you're on the air. You can't do that. It's no good.
Noagendaartgenerator.com. We encourage everybody to prompt around and do some work. And if you are an actual artist, we appreciate that even more. If you feel like it, we would love to highlight your work as the artwork for the No Agenda show, part of our Time, Talent, and Treasure initiative for the returning of value to the show, which can also come in treasure by going to noagendadonations.com.
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Not only will we read your note, guaranteed, we read lots of notes, but guaranteed your note, which is often some kind of plug for a company.
Which is okay.
You get the associate executive producer title, which is good for the rest of your life and is valid anywhere. Hollywood style credits are not just Hollywood style. Hollywood credits are recognized as a real credit. You can even enter it on an account. If you don't have one, you can open one up at IMDB dot com. Three hundred dollars or more. You become an executive producer. You can put it on your on your curriculum. You can put it on your resumes.
I wonder, does Linda Lou Patkin advocate for putting your no agenda executive producer credit on your resume that gets results? I never asked her, but she might put it in the next note whether she does or not. I think it's pretty cool.
on LinkedIn.
It looks-
great on LinkedIn. Absolutely.
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Uh...
But I should leave. Oh, he said he wanted to be sit-zed-onymous.
But I should leave that for one of the Zeds.
No, I think it must have been Sir Zed Anonymous. It was a typo.
If it pleases the committee, may I be Sir X-Anonymous?
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In the morning, good sirs, I realize I've been negligent paying the bill for my conspiracy therapist. This donation is a big thank you for all the value you both provide. John, thank God you're still recovering well.
In such good spirits. If I can clear out my voice, maybe. Get well soon, Adam. We need more old rock and roll stories.
Thank you.
Really? I believe this installment makes me a red knight. Please dub me Sir Dobie, destroyer of libraries.
I'd like to request hookers and blow at the round table that's always there.
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In need of lozenges today. I just popped one myself. Thank you, Cody. Dennis.
Kato?
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I think so. I think he got a lot of flack. Yeah, for stolen valor.
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No.
You? Worth the trip. You?
Yeah, oh yeah. Isn't that where a whole bunch of boomers swap wives?
Maybe. Okay.
Film at 11. It's quite a manicured...
Faux little city. And they drive around in golf carts? No, no. You can drive your car through that.
Max Marder in Van Nuys, California comes up with 33333.
Hi, Adam and John, he writes. I'm making this donation of 333.33 for my wife.
Annie Marder for her birthday, April 26. She's a wonderful wife and mother to our two kids, and I can't think of anything she would like more than to be an executive producer for your show.
She listens to every episode when they become available and even re-listens to them with me in the car. She adores you guys, especially John.
please give her an extra special de-douching for her birthday. You've been de-douched.
Happy birthday, Annie. I love you, Max.
comma,
Aw, that's so lovely.
D. Bard. D. Bard in Fenton, Michigan. Row of Ducks, 222.22. First time, long time, a de-douching is in order. You've been de-douched. A thousand apologies for my belated contribution, but I am poor.
It took me the, you should talk to the Southern Poverty Law Center. They might be able to help. It took me the better part of eight months. Wow.
This is so appreciated. It took me the better part of eight months to save for this donation, and there is more to come. I know I could have done smaller donations, but my reasons are as follows. One, you two really deserve it, and with JCD's recent health scare,
I knew I couldn't wait any longer, and I hope you're feeling better, John, he says. Two, I heard karma really works, and I'm in dire need of all the karma Gitmo Nation can muster. Three, with the very limited wins in my life, I think having the title of associate executive producer will not only cheer me up, but look good on my resume. Yes, you've got to take that into account. It cheers you up.
I could not show my face at the Brighton, Michigan meetup on the 26th as a douchebag. Wow.
So when everybody at the Brighton, Michigan meetup on the 26th, make sure you say I had a D, D Bard.
Thank you both sincerely. Again.
I need all the karma and prayers, but for the sake of time, I'll settle for an F-35 Karma as my jangle. Love is lit. D-Bar.
you've got.
karma. Eli the Coffee Guy is here in Bensonville, Illinois. 20423. With all that's going on in the world, no agenda is needed more than ever. All of us producers really appreciate the dedication. You won't get a bad ticker.
You won't let a bad tigger or a flight across the pond stop the show.
By the way, how's that coming? What?
You're going to go? Yeah.
Yeah, I'm going to be able to get back. No, it's a big no. May 6th. We're going May 6th and we're supposed to return May 13th. The show will continue as regularly scheduled. But if I can't come back, guess what? The show will continue as regularly scheduled. Keep up the great work for what happens to the dog. Oh, Jill and Mike, they got her at the ranch.
She's fine. She loves the ranch. Okay, good.
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So the next two is interesting because Robert Mussard comes in from Riverside, California with $200 with no notes. So he will get a double up karma. You've got.
karma.
But then I see Linda Lou Patkin, Linda Lou, and it says see note with her $200 donation. I do not have a note.
Do you have a note?
But Jay did not send me a note.
I noticed. Well, this is important. This is Linda Lou, man.
Well, you know what we're going to do if we can't find the note?
What will we do?
We'll read her standard sales pitch. Well, do you have the standard sales pitch there? The last note I have from her is from May 16th.
from last year.
Yeah. Last year. Well.
Well, this is a conundrum. We'll have a note from the last spreadsheet. I'll just open that up.
Good to go. Do you have that?
Yeah, I have it on the download list. Good, because I'm on Linux.
Oh, if you can grab it from the last show, I feel horrible because Linda Lou, I don't think she's ever said C note. Never. So there must be. Here's what she normally says. This jobs karma. Your resume has about 10 seconds to make an impression. And most don't for a resume that gets results. Go to image makers, Inc. Dot com.
Linda helps professionals and executives.
Turn their executive exp... I'm... Nuts.
Experience to a clear story of leadership results and impact.
That's ImageMakers, Inc. with a K, and Linda Liu, Duchess of Jobs and writer of winning resumes. Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.
you
Well, I feel bad because I'd like to do I'd like to give good service to to Linda Lou. But whatever it is, we'll make up for it.
Guarantee you that. Continuing the rest of our supporters for today, Value for Value at noagendadonations.com. There she is, Dame Rita from Sparks, Nevada, 16362. That is 7474 plus 8888.
That's the donation amount to keep John ticking and Adam ticks for free.
Michael Poling in Hingham, Massachusetts, 155. DeSoto Drone. Hmm.
I think that's the company.
Must be.
Soto Drone in South Haven.
Mississippi.
Did I get it right? Of course. 105.35. I have to stop and think like I'm on MSNBC. Edward Gardland in Menden, New York, $100. Ian Field, $100. Marius.
Oh, Marius Uwe Nagel.
Marius Uvnagel in Norway, 8888, calling out Halvar sitting in the sauna as a douchebag. Although he kicked me in the mouth about 2.75 years ago. Keep on keeping on. Thank you, Marius Uvnagel.
Coming in with the boob donation, $80.08, 8008 Sir Kevin McLaughlin from Concord, North Carolina. He is the Archduan of Luke, lover of America and boobs. And as always says, God bless America.
tubes.
Brian Kaufman, Scottsdale, Arizona. No stranger to the donation. 75-75.
Nicholas Leary from Columbus, Ohio, 7272. Dane Becky, Arlington, Washington, 6996. Nice palindrome. Scott Schreiber in Madrid, in Spain.
He sent a Bitcoin donation for 60.09 euros. I'm Scott. I'm in Madrid. Thank you. Those cross-border payments go very fast with Bitcoin.
Sir John in Herber Springs, Heber.
Huber?
Oh, Heber. What did I say? Berber. No, Heber Springs. Sexist.
What is this?
Arkansas or Arizona? What is AR?
Arkansas. Okay. I need help. AZ is Arizona.
69.88, and he turned 69 today, show date. 88 cents for John's recovery. Matthew Elward from Weatherford, Texas. Small boobs, $60.06, 6-0-0-6. A couple of small boobs. Also one from Les Tarkowski in Kingman, Arizona. And Dame Liberty Mom from Vista, California.
Then we have Baron Henry of Outpost West in Rancho Palos Verdes, California, $59.95.
Another palindrome. 5555 from Philip Davis in Jessup, Georgia. My born in Jessup, Georgia. My daddy had a farm. Last week, the citizens of Brantley County, Georgia, fought against a proposed data center being brought to their county. This week, a fire started. I live a county over and have friends and family in Brantley. Send prayers and silver iodide. I can help with the prayers.
Cameron Linge, North Branch, Minnesota. Double nickels on that, 55-1. Back to work, back to supporting. Thank you for your courage.
Christopher Wexelberger in Leipzig, Germany. Another shameless plug for the Leipzig meetup on April 30th. He sends $54.30. Can't wait to hear the meetup report from that one. Daniel Lindt, Humboldt, Texas, 5374. Happy birthday for his 53rd trip around the sun. Happy belated birthday to John. That's hence 5374. Numerology counts.
Chris Reeves in Wichita, Kansas, 5333.
Margie, Margie, Margie. What is this?
Margie is some kind of pronunciation. Can I be Margie? Margie. Yeah, Margie. It's Margie. No, it says Margie, as in go. G-E-E is spelled G. It says right here in the notes. No, how do you spell? Take the word G. How do you spell it?
Now, I'm with you on that, but it says here in the note, this is happy. Oh, yeah, I see it. It'll use a hard. Oh, but then it's then it should. He said.
Please wish Margie a very happy birthday on April 22nd with love from her family in Wichita. Margie, as in geek. Margie. Argue with me. I'm arguing.
you
I don't care what it says.
don't you just want to argue you're just here to argue you don't care what is what the point is well you said so at the beginning james buch did i what did i say at the beginning so you got plenty of clips you're just here to grouse oh goodness oh now i get it that made you mad no i'm just no i took your advice
Some things never change.
James Bueller, Belleville, Illinois, 5272. William Kidwell, 5272. Charles V. Bruchetti, Grove City, Pennsylvania, 5272. Thanks for the analysis. Wishing John a healthy, quick recovery. He's here. Just a few weeks after his chest was cut open.
Tyrell McMahon, Somerville, Tennessee, 51-51, ITM and 73s from...
November Juliet, eight X-ray, 73s. Forrest Martin, $50.05. Andrew Benz, $50.05. He's in Imperial, Missouri. Kat from Toronto, California. Shout out to Ash.
Gabay from Toronto, Ontario, who just turned 41. We both love your show. Thanks for what you do. Glad you're okay, John. Now the 50s. Baron Slam Bob, Rolling Knight of the Guadalupe and Sand City in San Jose, California, 50. And he says, I will never leave you and always stand by your side.
Alex Delgado, Aptos, California, 50. Simon Smith, South Jordan, Utah. Leanne Shipley in Covington, Washington. Michael Mize in Diamond Head, Mississippi. Almost messed it up.
And that's it. Those are the 50s. And that is our list of value for value supporters for the time talent. And this was the treasure portion for episode 1862. We appreciate everybody who supports us in any manner whatsoever.
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Happy birthday to Margie. She celebrated on the 26th.
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was born
Yes, they will. Welcome, brand new human resource.
Oh, that's actually today she was born.
She was born today, Kennedy Sage. Wow. And Sir John.
Max Marder wishes his wife and Annie Marder a happy birthday on the 26th. Daniel Lindt turns 53.
It says happy birthday to you.
Gavai from Toronto.
Turned 41 years old, we say happy birthday from everybody.
And we have a couple of special people to thank.
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Two quick missed, actually a missed donation note from Sir E61. He's Black Sheep, E61 Black Sheep. We didn't have that note in the last show. Quick blurb from my last 202.02 donation. John.
You're sounding like your old grumpy self. Thank you for your service. Amen. Love you, brother. Jingles, Obama, you might die.
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have that one set up.
Where is you my dog?
I have such a good system. What's... what's...
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Where is he? Where is he? Oh, here he is. You might die. Hardly worth it.
that. Also, we have a...
I was trying to...
I tried to skip that, but thanks. Yeah, I saw that. I wasn't going to let you get any of that. Poor guy. That's true. Oh, that's the wrong one. See, that's rough. That's good enough.
There's so many of them. I think it has to do with the classic. Here we go. That's true.
And Nate from Chris. He also said Mimi rocks.
That I just missed.
Would have said that. I didn't miss that on purpose. Chris Kinney. We learned how to say that on the last show.
He said on show 1860, my parents, Mike and Becky Kinney, gifted me an instant knighthood for my 50th birthday. That's right. I would like to claim that knighthood with the following title.
which will be Sir Soundguy Redknight of Streaming Data, protector of the transactions. At the roundtable, I'd like to partake of Shiner Bohemian Black Lager.
and true Buffalo-style hot wings and blue cheese. He likes long stuff. By the way, Mike welcomed JCD to the Zipper Club. The Zipper Club is a club for people who have undergone...
surgery. It is named after the unique scar running up the sternum that looks a lot like a zipper. You don't say. ITM, Chris Kinney, soon to be Sir Sound Guy. Yes, that is in fact true because we have a couple of nights to welcome today and I'm going to bring up my blade. John has a little tiny one. I got one right here, the portable.
here on the podium
pronounce the K Diaz
guy, Red Nugget.
data protector
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And Sir Dobie, destroyer of libraries. Gentlemen, for you.
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I want to thank Sir Skunkbeard for the card.
He sent the card and a coin, which he wanted to remind you was valuable.
But what coin was it?
It was a little coin.
I'll talk to you about it.
Oh, man, like a million dollars valuable?
we should be so lucky.
How about a Bitcoin?
That's good money. Somebody should send us a Bitcoin. That would be nice.
But we'll take whatever.
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I think one of the oldest meetup groups. One o'clock at Brewery Becker in Brighton, Michigan. Still to come this month, North Toronto in Ontario on the 29th, Alfreda, Georgia on the 30th, Leipzig in Germany on the 30th. I'm expecting a lot of people to be there. Let me just take a quick look. We got so many coming up in May, June, July. October is already on the calendar. Go to noagentameetups.com.
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to the highly anticipated John's tip of the... What? I don't see any ISOs.
I decided to let you have it. What, you're going to do some excuse like dog ate my homework? I was in the ER. Dog ate my homework. I was in the ER and no one attended to me? Please. Yeah. You know that I tried to get people to help you, right?
Did you know that? I'm sorry, like how?
Oh, I put out a tweet. Oh, I saw that tweet, yeah. How did it pay off? I got, well, I had...
There was a lot of doctors responded. People were calling nurses they knew.
So I don't know if it helps. It got you a nasty doctor. So maybe it helped. But then you got the kind nurse who wanted to immediately take take your complaints. So.
Did you get help? Do you feel like you got help? You got a monitor? You got an iPhone? Yeah, I'm good to go. Okay, here are my ISOs. You choose. These geysers gotta be sick of...
So's.
just cute. I don't think it's appropriate for an ISO. I like it. I like it too. How about you put some money toward us? Yeah, a little bit. A little condescending.
Nice, funny guys. Real sweet. Now you're talking. Thank you. Goodbye.
Boom.
You like that one? You like the thank you goodbye? Hold on a sec.
And then the last one is they were right about everything. OK, that's the one I knew. I knew I'd nailed it eventually.
Just the tip with Jason.
And sometimes, Adam. This is a crazy one. This comes from producer Zach.
He sends me this website, and it's like, holy mackerel. If you think you're handy or handyman, you need some sort of a wrench or maybe you need a certain kind of special.
Ice grip.
You need vice grips, real ones, and ones that say vice grips on them. And they work right, which is not everyone. I have vice grips. Or you need some tools for power, you need wires, or you need level controls, or temperature control devices, filters, filters of any sort. Check out this website.
This is the damnedest thing. This is everything known to man. Okay. The name of the website is.
Master.
I'm sorry, what? McMaster, I'm sorry, McMaster, M-C-M-A-S-T-E-R dot com.
Master.com.
Wow.
Keep scrolling. Wow.
Oh man, they got hard hats.
You can scroll for days. Oh, my goodness.
This is great.
thing.
It's like Home Depot on a website.
Only easy. On steroids. Hand tools. Let's see. Plumbing and janitorial. Do they have toilets? I need a toilet. I need a toilet. Toilets and urinals. They got toilets. Urinals. Wall-mounted urinals. Well, that's what you need. Yeah.
Yeah.
Yes, they have bidets. Do they have bidets? I want a bidet.
They got, wow, this is pretty good.
Oh, you can, oh, you can buy.
sorted by different bowl.
Yeah.
I've been thinking about a new toilet.
Well, you know, here's your why. I'm good. Why? What's wrong with the toilet? I don't like our toilet.
Let's ride it.
Well, it's too low and it's cheap. It feels cheap. I want it when I want people. Go to Costco has nice toilets for good prices. I want people to feel like, oh, this is a nice toilet. Well, then you want to get one of those Japanese things. No, that's naff. No, I don't want to get one of those. Before the guy can say hello, he gets washed. Sprays. No, I don't want it. I like the snowmobile ones.
They're really huge. I want it to be a throne. That's what I want for my guests. It's not for me. It's for my guests. McMaster.com. That is an interesting find.
I'd say I was very impressed. Yeah, I like that a lot. Well, that's just one of the many tips you get at tip of the day dot net.
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What do they have? Physical therapy. No. What is it when you do a car diagnostics? No. It's telemetry. There we go. Car diagnostics. Your telemetry. My telemetry.
You're telemetry. I'm going to send it to the home base.
Not a phone.
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