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Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak. It's Thursday, May 14th, 2026.
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This is your award-winning Kimo Nation Media Assassination episode 1868.
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This is no agenda. With pomp and circumstance and broadcasting
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live from the heart of the Texas film country here
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in... Region number six in the morning everybody. I'm Adam
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Curry. And from Refinery Row where we're all watching what's
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going on in China, I'm John C. Dvorak. One was
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Yes, we are. China. Ch-ch-China. Ch-ch-China. China. China, China, China,
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China. Yes, but before we talk about China. I had
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a rather interesting... Oh, you're back. You are back from
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the hinterlands. Yes, the lowlands. The lowlands and get more
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nation there and you have a report. Yes. Always entertaining,
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I might add. Yes. Our re-entry into, well, first of
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all, we had a great time. You know, we hung
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out with Christina and Kevin and we just had fun.
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It was great. And the airport hotel, I have to
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say, got kind of old after a week. Yeah. Yeah.
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Well, they're not the most luxurious of places. They're just
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handy. Well, yeah. I mean, they're business hotels. But we
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were in the hotel a lot because of the shows
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and stuff like that. But the thing that bothered me
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is there was a blueberry in the hallway. Have you
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ever had this where you see a blueberry or something
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on the carpet? You're like, hmm. And then you come
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back in the afternoon, the blueberry's still there. And then
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for the whole week, you're looking at the blueberry. And
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then someone stepped on the blueberry, but it never really
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got cleaned up, the blueberry. That was very disappointing. Oh,
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well, did you report it? No, I did not report
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it. Well, you didn't report it. What do you expect?
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Well, I was waiting to... Hello, War Room Service. You
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dropped a blueberry. I was waiting to see if they
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would vacuum the hallway is just a crazy, crazy example.
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They did not. So we came back via Detroit. Which
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is a b- fine way to go you know you
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can go atlanta minneapolis detroit detroit is a fine way
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to go yeah for a for a transfer actually that
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airport's kind of fascinating because there's a subway system that
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goes in that's inside the airport itself it's more like
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a monorail above it's not it's not a yeah it's
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weird it's over way it's a above way above yeah
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it's above way It's not a subway. It's an above
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way. And we decided to walk. You know, the gate
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73 is a long way away. But upon re-entry... We
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had, we have signed up, this is a typical TINA
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thing, it's like, we're doing global entry. Okay, we got
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global entry and you get your TSA pre-check and all
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that to go with it. So at CBP, and I
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should say as an aside, there's pretty much it's all
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CBP now instead of TSA. That was just, we noticed
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that on the way out. Well, I mean, you know,
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I think that there's still a... CDP, the Canadian District
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Police? No, CBP, the Customs and Border. patrol. Oh, oh.
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Yes. Who are doing most, and you know, everything's kind
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of smooth, but then coming back in, so, you know,
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we always, we don't have to stand in this line.
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We're going to the kiosk. We're going to the global
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entry kiosk. And it's odd because you have a card
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and you got your path. You don't need any of
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that. You just. stand in front of the thing. It
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goes biometrics. Hello. All right. Walk on by. So as
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we're walking up, you still have to go through the
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little port and talk to the dude. He says, Adam
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and Tina Curry. Oh, that's interesting. I didn't expect him
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to. Come on up here, family. Okay. And he's like,
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okay, where were you? What were you doing? Were you
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working over there? No, I was seeing my daughter. She's
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going to have a baby. Oh, that's great. Okay. Bring
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any cash with you? No, no cash. Any fruits, meats,
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vegetables, drugs, anything else we should know? No, nothing. Okay.
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And so we go in and we're waiting for our...
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For our bags. And there were several Customs Border Patrol
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dudes patrolling through kind of the people waiting for their
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bags. And I saw it right away. You know, I'm
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going to try not to look like I was patrolling.
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And boom! Uh, folks, can I see your passports? Okay,
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passports, here you go. the same questions. What are you
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doing? Why are you there? Do you bring any cash?
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Any meats, fruits, vegetables, anything? Any drugs? No? No, no,
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no. Okay. All right. We get our bags. We're walking
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towards the exit. Another dude. Hey folks! So we just
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talked to your colleague. Oh, really? So yeah. said, it
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must be because we look like international diamond smugglers. Is
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that what it is? Why don't you step over here,
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Mr. and Mrs. Curry? Me and my big mouth. So
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you made a snide remark? It was a funny remark.
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I'm like, why are you guys targeting us? Do we
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look like... like international diamond smugglers. Yeah, folks, why don't
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you step over here? And we're going to do a
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little bag check. But what was so obvious... Oh, they
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did a bag check on you then? Yeah, opened everything.
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Ooh, but the, it was so obvious they were looking
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for cash. Okay, do you have any cash on you?
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How much, I said, how much, how much do you
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want? You're looking for cash coming in yes yes why
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i i don't know i said how much cash do
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you want i got 80 bucks here that's all i
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got and they really didn't do a thorough a thorough
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check of the bags at all You know, and they
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were nice and everything, but it was just so odd.
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They kept asking about cash. You got any cash? You
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got cash. And the whole time I'm thinking, I have
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a whole... There must be a... You know what I'm
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thinking? What? There's a counterfeit ring going on in Europe.
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Something must be going on with cash. Yeah, they're looking
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for counterfeit money to bring broad into the country. I
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mean, that's the only thing that makes logical sense. Maybe.
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I mean, and there's... so much to look at in
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my bag. I had my studio with me. No, nothing.
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They didn't ask a question about it, I'm sure. No,
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not a single thing. It was kind of, but so
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it had to be the cash. Meanwhile, I'm thinking, you
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guys are all so old fashioned. I got a Bitcoin
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memorized in my head. I'm walking around with a full
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Bitcoin crossing borders. Didn't mention that, but... Because it is.
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Isn't it just kind of old-fashioned, this whole idea of
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cash? Who smuggles cash across the border anymore? especially into
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the country. Yeah, right? Unless it's counterfeit. Some of the,
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you imagine if I had some of those Trump dollars
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that we got. I snagged you the other day. What
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is this? Oh, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. So. uh We
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did have a dinner with Lex and Fariba, his Persian
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wife. Which was interesting. Yeah, it's the lowdown. Well, first
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of all, we had Peking Duck, which is kind of...
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strange to have that in Amsterdam. um And I said,
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you know, so what's the deal? Have you heard from...
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Have you heard from your family? She says, well, like
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once a week, we might get a WhatsApp message and
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they have to do all kinds of. all kinds of
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stuff to, you know, you sometimes get a SIM card,
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you have to find a Wi-Fi signal, it's very, very
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difficult, but... In general, when they get a message, it's
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like everything's okay. Nobody knows what's going on. Nobody. They
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just don't know what's going on. Huh. And, you know,
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and it was kind of fun as we're just talking
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about life in Iran, in Tehran, and life in Iran.
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And I say, yeah, you know, that son of the
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Khomeini guy, he's supposedly gay. And Fariba says, oh, we
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have no idea how many men in Iran are gay.
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What? Oh yeah. She says, you know, you can't hold
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hands with a woman, but you can kiss a man
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on the street. I was like, what? He says, oh
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yeah. There's even cave drawings in Iran of men having
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sex with men. He says, this goes back thousands of
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years. That sounds kind of weird. Yeah, yeah, she said,
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"Bessie." It says that's what it is. You can you
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can make out with it with a dude, but you
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can't hold a woman's hand in Iran on the street.
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And now, on the other hand. She made it very
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clear to me that hijabs have really not been a
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thing in Tehran for a long time. In fact, she
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says, look out the window. She said, look at the
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street here. He says, there are more hijabs in Amsterdam
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than you'll ever see in Tehran, which was kind of
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a double slap. Like, yeah. Because it's true. Man, you
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do not want to go to Amsterdam anymore. There's no
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Dutch people there. That stinks. Yeah, it does stink, really.
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And it must really ruin the bar scene. The bar
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scene. Actually, I have a couple clips about the internet
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blackout in Iran if you want to hear them. Sure.
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Okay. 90 million people. That is how many Iranians have
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been functionally cut off from the global internet since January
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8th, 2026. Not slowed down. Not filtered. cut off. Connectivity
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sitting at 1% of normal levels, according to NetBlocks, the
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digital governance monitor that has been tracking this in real
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time. By March 10th, the total had hit 240 hours
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of blackout since the start of the year. The internet
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monitor marked publicly, calling it one of the most severe
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government-imposed shutdowns on record globally. And that was not even
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the peak. By April 11th, the counter had crossed 1,000
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hours. The ceasefire between Iran, the United States and Israel
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had already been announced three days earlier. on April 8th.
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The guns went quiet, the missiles stopped, and the internet
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stayed off. That is the detail that tells you everything
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you need to know about what this blackout actually is.
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Because this was never about the war. The war was
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the cover story. Over the next few minutes, I'm going
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to show you exact... how Iran built a two-tier information
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system. Who is online while everyone else sits in darkness?
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What the regime told the world out loud about who
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deserves a connection? And why the plan that Filterwatch obtained
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from inside the government makes every other authoritarian I thought
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there was kind of an interesting report because, you know,
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they really did have a whole plan to cut people
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off from the internet. Which I guess could happen anywhere,
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I guess. If you had enough control, I don't know
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about the United States, but I could sur- We certainly
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see it happening in any European country, any EU nation
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state. And here's some of that plan. The technical architecture
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behind all of this is what makes this story genuinely
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different from every previous internet crackdown. Filterwatch, the Iran-focused internet
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monitoring organization, obtained and published... a confidential government plan in
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January 2026. The name of that plan is Absolute Digital
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Isolation. The document describes a deliberate, coordinated, multi-year project to
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transform Iran's internet infrastructure into what it calls a barracks
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internet. Under that system, access to the global web is
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not a default right that gets selectively removed during crises.
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It is a privilege granted only to vetted individuals and
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organisations that pass a security clearance process. Everyone else gets
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the domestic intranet. Everyone else gets state television. Everyone else
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gets what the regime decides they should know. The plan
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is being built on a Huawei-based platform, coordinated by Chinese
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technical partners. Iran International obtained information indicating the project is
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estimated to cost between $700 million and $1 billion, with
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all equipment... from Huawei entering Iran in 24 containers after
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the June 2025 12-day war. President Massoud Pazeshkian visited the
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construction site in March 2025. China's ambassador also paid a
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visit. So, and they have these jamming systems for the
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Starlink. And you literally have internet and internet pro. And
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if you can afford the Internet Pro and you're on
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the list, then you can go outside the country and
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surf the web or do whatever. And somehow WhatsApp once
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in a while gets through. *Clears throat* So. I can
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see it. I can see that as being a Huawei
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system. And they sell it to everybody. Hey, you guys
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want this? You can shut down your people? Well, you
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know, it's a bad sign, but it seems like something
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that other people would be looking at. You're right. The
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EU could do it. Yeah. Anyone could do it. Maybe
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it should be done in some countries. Well, let's be
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honest. You're losing control. Let's be honest. It's not. Not
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like the internet has been a plus for the world,
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has it now? I mean, it expedites things. Yes, yeah,
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it does. But that's about it. It's made our job
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harder. Please just be able to watch C-SPAN. I gotta
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watch all this other crap. It's amazing. Yeah. It's true,
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we had to watch a lot of crap. Did you
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see any of the Hegseth hearings? Everyone moaning and groaning
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about Iran and how much it costs and all of
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this. Yeah, I saw some of it. I think we
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maybe played a couple of clips. This has been going
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on for a while. Yeah. Well, my... I think it
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was. Murkowski? Where's she from again, Murkowski? Alaska. Ugh, what
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is she even doing in D.C.? ? Well, she's the
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one you have to do. Murkowski was. I don't know
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how she, she actually, kind of her appearance changed. She
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was fairly attractive when she was younger. Oh, oh, oh.
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Hold on, let's take a look. Yes. Well, the point
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is that she was a Republican representative senator from Alaska.
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But she's kind of a middle, you know... middle-of-the-road Republican,
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and so they decided to primary her years and years
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ago. And so they brought some stiff in there to
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run against her, and they took her off. She wasn't
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a Republican. She couldn't register as an independent. So she
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actually had the statewide write-in vote. You had to write
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her name in the ballot. And she won. You know,
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I'm looking at her, and yeah, she... kind of that
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cute political kind of face. back in the day you
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know what she forgot to moisturize Well, she's got a
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Skeletor-like look now. That's where things went wrong. Ladies, you've
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got to moisturize, particularly if you're doing a lot of
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flying. Please remember these things. So she missed. quotes the
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president, which I thought was just fun to listen to.
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Now, let me turn and say, Secretary Hex says that
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the president has called Medicaid, Medicare, and child care little
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scams and said, quote, we're fighting wars we cannot take.
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care of daycare. Okay. Let's just go back and listen.
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Do you think that's what the president said? Did he
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say these are little seals? It seems unlikely. And I
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actually said to them, I said to Russell, don't send
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any money for daycare because the United States can't take
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care of daycare. That has to be up to a
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state. We can't take care of daycare. We're a big
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country. We have 50 states. We have all these other...
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We can't take care of daycare. You gotta let a
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state take care of daycare, and they should pay for
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it too. They should pay. They have to raise their
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taxes. But they should pay for it. And we could
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lower our taxes a little bit to them to make
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up for it. But it's not possible for us to
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take care of daycare. Medicaid. things, they can do it
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on a state basis. You can't do it on a
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federal. We have to take care of one thing, military
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protection. So that's what he really said. He said the
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states need to take care of it, not the federal
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government. But she twists that, and let's just listen to
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that once again. Now, let me turn and say Secretary
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Hex says that president has called Medicaid, Medicare, and child
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care little scams and said, quote, we're fighting wars. We
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cannot take... care of daycare. Yeah, you see, that's how
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you do it. Ignore all the preamble that he said.
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Just say he said this. I'm just trying to understand
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that. Is it your position? Which is complete positioning because
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this is, you know, a senatorial hearing and it's all
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about the clips and it's all about your little moment.
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And that's what she wanted to get out. And it's
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dishonest. You're asking taxpayers for another half a trillion dollars
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for the war that American families should be forced to.
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give up child care and health coverage. And now she
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now it's like so for your half a trillion dollars
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Hegseth you crazy Christian for your half a trillion dollars
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we have to give up our health care. You can
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have one and a half trillion dollars for this budget.
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Senator, that's not my department. I certainly support this, and
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I also support this. support the president's efforts to find
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and remove fraud wherever possible in the general sense. And
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we do that in our department as well. I'm not
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talking about fraud. I actually asked whether an American family
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should lose their health care or their child care to
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pay for this budget. That is literally what the president
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suggested. Oh man! It's so good. The president has proposed
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a historic $1.5 trillion budget that will defend the nation
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and space, Golden Dome, confront threats like Iran, which previous
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presidents allowed to happen, as Senator Graham pointed out. Previous
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administrations said they wanted to take care of this problem.
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The question in front of this committee, the question in
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front of the American people is what are they being
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asked to give up for this one and a half
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trillion dollars? That's where I was talking about. And lastly,
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Mr. Secretary, your budget request cuts through Trump's ramblings and
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really makes the truth clear that you and the president
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don't value families. As much as you value defense. It's
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such a show. You don't value families. You just like
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war. You're talking to the war guy, first of all.
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She's going to bring value families in. You should have
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thrown back, what do you need daycare for? Because you
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should have the true family structure. Ooh, yeah. If you're
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really bad. You're going to throw it right in her
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face. Yeah, no, he's good. He's not that good. He's
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not that good. President Trump, though, you know, he definitely
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does not care. The war also taking a toll on
19:36
American consumers. Inflation rose last month by 3.8% compared to
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the same period last year. Energy. prices fueling the surge
19:45
with gas up 28.4%. That's one factor driving up prices
19:50
in supermarkets and restaurants. All the lettuces, whether it be
19:54
iceberg, romaine, field greens, they are high. Oranges are high.
20:00
Tomatoes are almost... for over four times what they normally
20:07
cost. Before leaving for China, President Trump said higher prices
20:10
here at home will not influence his negotiations with Iran.
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The only thing that matters when I'm talking about Iran,
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they can't have a nuclear weapon. I don't think about...
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financial situation I don't think about anybody Good work, President.
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That doesn't help his case. That does not help. But
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of course, we have to keep spiking the ball here.
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So we have Patty Murray, Senator. Where's Patty Murray? Another
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one. Another one of these. He's back east. Forgot to
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moisturize. Uh, it takes it a little further. Mr. Secretary,
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the war in Iran has not only cost 13 American
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service member lives, it is also costing American taxpayers dearly.
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Tens of billions of dollars and counting, and that's money
20:56
that could be helping people perhaps get health care. But
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instead, we're paying for bombs dropped in a war that
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American people overwhelmingly... See, you could have had healthcare. We
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also all could have had like a new car, all
21:09
kinds of stuff. But she, oh no, everyone could have
21:12
had healthcare if you stopped dropping bombs. Yeah, yeah, that's
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true. Actually, I take it back. Patty Mercer from Washington
21:20
State. Yeah, she's the idiot from Washington. I should know
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that. Yes, you should. I know that your team testified
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Trump's war with Iran cost $29 billion so far. Trump's
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war with Iran. That is $29 billion blown on a
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war of choice, and that's what it would have cost,
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actually, to save the ACA. By the way, stop. Good
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turn. They've been trying to push the meme war of
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choice. Yeah. Yeah, that's a good one They say it
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as a kind of a catchphrase a war of choice
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It hasn't caught on and they they they stopped it
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They started right away with it and then they stopped
21:58
it for a while and they're bringing it back Testified
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Trump's war with Iran cost 29 billion so far That
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is $29 billion blown on a war of choice, and
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that's what it would have cost, actually, to save the
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ACA tax credits. But as my colleagues have already stated,
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what is concerning as well is it seems quite clear
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that that cost estimate is suspiciously low. So this whole...
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you know, um, Healthcare versus... war Somehow that seeped into
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the president's brain. And... And he's using all kinds of
22:37
health care terms. Have you noticed this? No. Oh, check
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this out. It's unbelievably weak, I would say. I would
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call it the weakest. Right now? After reading that piece
22:53
of garbage they sent us, I didn't even finish reading
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it. I said, I'm not going to waste my time
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reading it. I would say it's one of the weakest
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right now. It's on life support. They understand. These are
23:04
all medical people. And so Dr. Oz is standing behind
23:07
him. And he said, oh, the ceasefire is on life
23:10
support. Dr. Oz, life support is not a good thing.
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Do you agree? Diagnostic. I would say the ceasefire is
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on. And then Oz is like, oh, yeah, that's right,
23:19
Mr. President. Massive life support where the doctor walks in
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and says. Sir, your loved one has approximately a 1%
23:28
chance. of living. But they changed their mind because they
23:32
didn't put it in the paper. So when they sent
23:34
us this document that we waited four days for that
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should have taken ten minutes to do, it looked very
23:40
simple. We get that, they guarantee no... nuclear weapons for
23:44
a very long period of time and a couple of
23:47
other minor things but they just can't get there yeah
23:50
so all kinds of medical did you notice how he
23:53
slipped that new thing in there what's the new thing
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No nuclear weapons for a very long period of time
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as opposed to no nuclear weapons. Yes, yeah. Yeah, that's
24:03
definitely on the table. Yeah, so they're obviously going to
24:06
do some deal where they're working on a deal where,
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okay. The moratorium on your doing the... enrichment yeah how
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many years okay ten five ten he says and you
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know they can make the argument what different since they're
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waiting for the 12th imam You know, what difference does
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it make whether you wait another decade or not for
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the 12th e-mom? Come on. Does it make a difference,
24:31
really? That's the art of the deal right there. Hey,
24:35
listen, boys. You're waiting for the 12th e-mom. The guy's
24:37
going to come. He's going to come. He'll come when
24:39
he's ready. That's so funny. funny yeah so um the
24:47
president and his entire crew are in China. This has
24:52
been quite interesting to watch. Do you have any clips
24:55
on the China visit? I don't know if I do.
24:59
I'm kind of... I'm all over the map with clips
25:02
today. But you want to do some China stuff? Because
25:06
I've been noticing a few things. yeah do finish your
25:09
china stuff up well i mean yeah i get trump
25:13
on china this is the prelude on ntd uh trying
25:17
to tease in the whole thing there you go yeah
25:19
good president trump touching down today in beijing for a
25:21
high stakes two-day summit ah The terms, the terms, high
25:25
stakes, high stakes, pomp and circumstance is a lot of
25:31
buzzwords they're using. High stakes. President Trump touching down today
25:35
in Beijing for a high stakes two day summit with
25:37
Xi Jinping as rapid shifts in the global power dynamics
25:40
loom large. Blows to Beijing's key partners in Venezuela. and
25:44
Iran mounting tensions over Tuan, and human rights all expected
25:48
to be on the... Tuan? Tuan? They're in Tuan. What's
25:52
the problem with Tuan? ...key partners in Venezuela and Iran
25:56
mounting tensions over Tuan. You gotta be sitting at home
26:00
watching. This is a Chinese run operation. NTD. Why are
26:06
they saying Tawana? Blows to Beijing's key partners in Venezuela
26:10
and Iran mounting tensions over Tawana and human rights all
26:14
expected to be on the table. NTD's White House correspondent
26:17
Mari Otsu sets the stage for us from the North
26:20
Lawn of the White House. President Trump's arrival in Beijing
26:23
for a major two-day... summit with Chinese Communist Party leader
26:26
Xi Jinping comes against the backdrop of a new world
26:28
order. In January, the ouster of Venezuelan dictator Nicolas Maduro
26:31
dealt a major blow to one of China's key partners
26:34
in the Western Hemisphere. And just weeks later, U.S. strikes
26:38
on Iran hit another regime that's reliant on China, with
26:41
Iran's foreign minister visiting Beijing a week ahead of the
26:43
U.S. President Trump's visit. the strait. We are reopening it.
27:05
So I would urge the Chinese to join us in
27:08
supporting this international operation. There are things moving through the
27:12
UN that China and Russia have blocked. Now, as President
27:16
Trump is in China meeting Xi Jinping for the first
27:19
time since they met in Busan, South Korea last fall,
27:22
talks are expected to go far beyond trade. That's as
27:24
the president has framed tariffs, market access, and the flow
27:27
of fentanyl from China into the U.S. as national security
27:30
issues. And while new trade agreements on U.S. goods like
27:33
soybeans, beef, and other farm products are on the table,
27:36
past deals with the CCP have proved fragile, like the
27:39
October trade truce reached in Busan after months of zero
27:42
U.S. soybean purchases from China. only meeting the 12 million
27:45
ton goal after repeated delays and extensions. The summit also
27:48
coming as Washington challenges China's critical minerals monopoly. Yeah, so
27:53
everybody is spinning this in a certain way, and I'm
27:57
a little mad at myself. If I had heard your
27:59
clip, I never listen to John's clips for everybody listening.
28:02
Because I want to be just as surprised as you
28:04
are. I would have done a supercut of this high
28:09
stakes. Here's the BBC. We start with the superpower summit
28:12
in China. The US President Donald Trump has landed in
28:15
Beijing, where he'll meet the Chinese leader Xi Jinping for
28:19
intensive talks. My colleague in Beijing, Steve Lai, described the
28:23
moments immediately after Mr. Trump's... plane touched down. Mr. Trump,
28:27
thanks BBC. We can see Air Force One just landed
28:30
and taxiing to its stopping position. You can see a
28:35
person in military fatigues there standing alone and solitary in
28:38
the centre of that screen or just to the left
28:40
as we go past it. The plane will, we imagine,
28:43
be turning around. We saw a ladder. as well, getting
28:45
ready to be placed in position for the president and
28:48
his delegation to walk down. And you can see another
28:52
military figure standing as well. China said Mr. Trump's visit
28:56
could be the start of a new chapter in relations
28:58
between the superpowers in a turbulent world. Mr. Trump is
29:02
being treated to a state visit. But significant tensions remain
29:06
between the two countries. And there are a number of
29:08
complex issues the U.S. and Chinese delegations will need to
29:12
navigate. Battles over trade and the fight to dominate strategically
29:16
important technologies like AI mean the two sides will have
29:19
some very difficult conversations ahead of them. So even if
29:23
this visit seems... friendly with Donald Trump predicting several times
29:27
that Xi Jinping will be giving him a big hug.
29:30
There's a lot at stake here. Ah, crap. The other
29:33
clip has high stakes in it. This ABC clip has
29:35
highs. Everyone has high stakes. With great pomp and pageantry
29:39
in China, rolling out the red carpet. What is pomp?
29:44
Huh? Pump. Ask the robot. No, I haven't even fired
29:48
the robot up. Hold on a second. Where is the
29:50
robot? Hello. Pump. All right. Pump and circumstance. What's the
29:54
circumstance? Well, let's ask. There's another. You might as well
29:57
just. The whole phrase is idiotic. Explain the etymology of
30:00
pump and circumstance. All right. Come on, robot. It got
30:09
pump instead of pomp. Oh, here we go. According to
30:12
the book of knowledge, pomp and circumstance originates from Shakespeare's
30:17
play Othello, where in Act 3, Othello speaks the line,
30:21
pride, pomp, and circumstance of glorious war. Oh. Pomp comes
30:26
from Latin and French, meaning splendid display or ceremony, while
30:30
circumstance in its archaic sense meant formal ceremony rather than
30:34
mere conditions. Thus, it has been written. Yes, I didn't
30:40
know that. Well, that was interesting. I had to say
30:43
it's the first time. The robot has provided something that's
30:47
actually interesting. With great pomp and pageantry, China rolling out...
30:52
Oh, now we got pomp and pageantry. They're just doing
30:55
alliteration. That is not from Shakespeare. ...carpet for President Trump.
30:59
300 young people waving Chinese and American flags. Steps behind
31:04
him to... Two of the major tech leaders he brought
31:06
along, Elon Musk and AI chip maker NVIDIA's CEO Jensen
31:11
Wong. Didn't you just love how everyone was going on
31:14
for days? Like, well, Jensen Wong's not going, he's not
31:19
going, he's not going, he's not going. Oh, he's going.
31:23
Had hoped this trip would reset. U.S. relations with China,
31:26
the world's other economic superpower. The summit had already been
31:29
rescheduled once because of the war in Iran. But the
31:32
war is now in its 10th week, and China, by
31:35
far the largest buyer of Iranian oil, now seeing its
31:38
supply cut off. And while the president claims the war
31:42
won't dominate the agenda, he knows... It looms large. They
31:48
say, they just say stuff. You'll hear them say, everyone
31:51
is like, oh, this is tense. It's intense. It's all
31:54
about this. Think. I think Trump is really looking forward
31:59
to it. I think he's happy. He's like... Well, did
32:01
you see Trump's presentation at the table? I have a
32:04
couple. clips of that yeah Yeah, he's pretty magnanimous. Yeah,
32:09
you remember ARC, America, Russia, China. Against the globalists. I
32:15
really think that everyone's on a little party line. A
32:19
little call. Hey, Vlad. Hey, G. Hey, Donuts. How you
32:23
doing? Yeah. And he's got all you. He's got all
32:25
these guys on his side of the table. The Chinese
32:28
have just got a bunch of ministers, but he's got,
32:30
you know, he's got, I think Tim Cook is there.
32:33
Yeah, yeah, yeah. All these guys that are hot shots
32:36
that do business with China. Yeah. Listen, more pump. Musk
32:41
has got a Tesla factory there. He's got to be
32:43
there, too. A key story of the day, President Trump
32:46
meeting with Chinese leader Xi Jinping in Beijing. When we
32:49
get straight over to Eamon Javers, he's on the ground
32:52
in China. Eamon's on the ground! Good morning. Yeah, good
32:57
morning to you, Andrew. You're looking at live pictures now
33:00
of President Trump arriving at the Great Hall of the
33:02
People. This is for the banquet. Remember, it is evening
33:06
here in Beijing, and they have a star-studded cast of
33:10
CEOs and political figures attending this state banquet at the
33:14
Great Hall. We've seen cameras in the room. Elon Musk
33:20
is there, along with a whole host of American CEOs
33:24
as well. The president was greeted by pomp and ceremony
33:28
earlier today. Pomp and ceremony. Pomp and ceremony. Wow, this
33:36
is great. Well, the president was greeted by pomp. You
33:40
know why they're saying this? They're saying this because, oh,
33:43
Trumbulli- cares about is that they suck is to suck
33:47
him off. Pump. They just want pump. That's why they're
33:51
saying it. yeah they love that and ceremony earlier today
33:56
at that same great hall of the people we saw
33:59
soldiers marching adoring children and of course this handshake which
34:03
was a large part of the reason that President Trump
34:06
traveled halfway around the world to come to Beijing to
34:09
signal friendly relations with the Chinese side. And he hopes
34:15
to cut some significant business deals. Now. There were some
34:20
real interesting firsts. I didn't know this, but it's very
34:25
rare that the Secretary of Defense, or of war as
34:28
we call him, would join. To Beijing for a high
34:31
stakes summit with Chinese leader Xi Jinping. The visit comes
34:35
despite past trade tensions and rivalry between the world's two
34:38
major economies. While President Trump is not being accompanied by
34:43
First Lady Melania Trump, he will be joined by two
34:46
key members of his administration, U.S. Secretary of War Pete
34:50
Hegseth and U.S. Secretary of State Marco Rubio. Both visits
34:54
are unusual for different reasons. Hegseth has become the first
34:58
American defense chief in decades to accompany a sitting president
35:02
on a state visit to China. This marks a rare
35:05
break from traditional diplomatic practice. That is kind of interesting.
35:10
Yeah, well, I have a clip here you should play
35:13
because what's most interesting is Rubio is actually banned from
35:17
going to China. That's the second part of my clip,
35:20
but I'm happy to play yours. Oh, okay. It's probably
35:24
a little more elaborate. The Secretary of State is traveling
35:26
with President Trump in Beijing after China sanctioned him back
35:30
in 2020 for introducing bills as a senator targeting the
35:33
Chinese regime's crackdown on political dissidents in Hong Kong and
35:36
slavery camps for Muslim Uyghurs in Xinjiang. Rubio also introduced
35:41
legislation to stop China's forced organ harvesting. of Falun Gong
35:44
practitioners. Human rights are the most distinct differentiation between the
35:48
United States of America and the Chinese Communist Party. The
35:52
Chinese Communist Party is currently conducting a genocide. They do
35:56
forced organ harvesting, which means they pull organs out of
35:59
living people to give it to officials that the Chinese
36:02
Communist Party prefers. Is this Rubio saying this? No, that
36:07
wasn't Rubio. That was just somebody doing an analysis. This
36:10
is NTD again? Yeah, of course. This is unlike any
36:13
regime we've seen for, say, 85 years. You can think
36:16
back and see who else acted like that, Nazi Germany
36:20
and others. And President Trump himself has also vowed to
36:22
bring some of the Chinese regime's... human rights abuses back
36:25
into the spotlight with the imprisonment of political prisoners, such
36:30
as the Hong Kong activist Jimmy Lai and Christian pastor
36:33
Ezra Jin Ming-Ri. They missed the punchline. They missed the
36:37
punchline. Let me see if I can find it for
36:38
you. ...was a vocal critic of China, leading Beijing to
36:42
sanction him twice. So... How is he being allowed entry
36:45
into China? Well, according to reports, Beijing is using a
36:49
linguistic workaround. Rubio's name has been modified on official Chinese
36:54
lists by altering the first syllable of his surname to
36:58
Lu. This will allow authorities to bypass... Wait a minute,
37:01
isn't that how they pronounce his name anyway? Ah, Secretary
37:04
Lubio. Lubio. Mr. Lubio, you're here. It's almost like they're
37:11
writing the jokes for us. Oh, I know what we'll
37:13
do. We can't have Rubio come, but Lubio, Lubio, welcome.
37:16
Legal restrictions without officially lifting any sanctions. Earlier, China also
37:22
indicated that Rubio's past actions would not. block his visits.
37:26
The sanctions talk. Anyway, let me see. You're right. They
37:32
dropped the ball on the punchline. Yeah, it's a great
37:34
punchline. Welcome to China. This is NBC. And here's the
37:40
president exiting the plane now, going to come down those
37:42
steps. Now, listen very carefully. carefully i think the the
37:45
guy comes in here and he's going to tell you
37:48
what what he wants you to hear about how china
37:51
is supposedly thinking about all this but he uses really
37:55
sketchy sources to this particular ceremony that we're going to
37:58
see here um jonathan we had just had janice explain
38:02
to us tomorrow will is really where we'll see a
38:04
lot of that pomp and circumstance when he actually meets
38:07
with Xi Jinping when the two of them are together.
38:09
But walk us through what we're going to see here
38:10
in this moment and just how significant it is the
38:13
president stepping onto Chinese soil. Yeah, I mean, as your
38:18
colleague said, this is the first time we've had a
38:20
U.S. president visiting China in nearly a decade. And President
38:24
Trump was the last one to make this trip back
38:26
in 2017. So this is fairly momentous, just a mere
38:31
fact of the trip actually happening. And it is a
38:34
shift in the overall tenor and vibe for the U.S.-China
38:38
relationship because after that trip in 2017, you of course
38:42
had the trade war. With Washington, between Washington and China,
38:46
and then throughout the Biden administration, whenever there were encounters
38:49
between the two presidents, it was always in third countries,
38:52
right? I think there was a real hesitation on both
38:54
sides to engage in this kind of reciprocal visit, especially
38:59
since the relationship was in such a tense period, right?
39:02
So again, I think this... This really shows a shift,
39:05
and again, almost back to an earlier era in some
39:08
ways, it feels like. Ah, crap, that's not the clip
39:10
I was thinking of. I'm sorry, I dumped out of
39:12
that. This is the second time you did this. Yeah,
39:14
it happens. I got a lot of clips. No, it's
39:16
because you're jet-lagged. Yes, that's it. I'm jet lagged. So
39:20
here is a translated version of... Uh, President, uh... Gee's
39:28
speech, just a little bit here, a minute, at the
39:31
big banquet. And I'm listening to this. I'm like, man,
39:35
these guys, they got plans together. This was really nice.
39:39
This is a historic visit. This year marks the start
39:43
of China's... 15th five-year plan for economic and social development.
39:48
The over 1.4 billion people of China join on the
39:52
rich heritage of our over five... Say what? Oh, you
39:55
mean the amount of people? Yeah, the amount of people.
39:57
We know it's bullshit. People of China. Wait, let's go
39:59
back. Here we go. The over 1.4 billion people of
40:00
China join on the rich heritage of our over five...
40:03
for Binan people of China. How many do you think
40:06
it is? What is the latest tally? Well, most people
40:09
are pushing it at 600 million. Wow. But I think
40:12
it's around 800 million. Still a lot of people. Oh,
40:16
yes. Two to three times as many as we have.
40:19
Yeah. The over 1.4 billion people of China. drawing on
40:24
the rich heritage of our over 5,000 year civilization, advancing
40:29
Chinese modernization on all fronts. through high quality development This
40:35
year is also the 250th anniversary of American independence. This
40:41
is nice of them to mention that. After they say,
40:45
hey, we're 5,000 years old, but happy birthday. Happy birthday.
40:49
Of American independence. The over 300 million American people are
40:55
reinvigorating the spirit of patriotism, innovation, and enterprise. Yeah. And
41:01
ushering in a new journey. for the development of the
41:04
United States. The people of China and the United States
41:09
are both great peoples. achieving the great rejuvenation of the
41:13
Chinese nation and making America great again can go hand
41:18
in hand. We can help each other succeed and advance
41:22
the well-being of the people. of the whole world. The
41:26
whole thing. That was nice. Threw a MAGA in there,
41:29
yeah. Threw a MAGA in there and said, hey, we
41:32
can work together, link arms, grab Russia, we'll fight the
41:35
globalists. Here's our president. As allies in World War II,
41:40
President Franklin Roosevelt's mentions of the brave people of China,
41:45
that's what they were, grew loud cheers in his speeches
41:48
in the United States. Wait a minute, were we friends
41:51
back then with China? Oh yeah, we had the Flying
41:54
Tigers over there fighting the Japanese. We had a lot
41:58
of that. Yeah, the Chinese and us were tight. We
42:00
were the ones that rousted the... Japanese were on the
42:03
side of China. There was all kinds of work arounds,
42:07
work togethers. Yeah. We used our land as a base
42:11
for landing our planes. They were very, let us do
42:14
that. Where did this all go wrong? When did all
42:18
of a sudden they become the big evil China? When
42:22
Mao Zedong, basically, maybe, you know, 49, I think, is
42:28
when that began. And when the Kuomintang went over to
42:32
Taiwan. Uh... shank i shack you know that kind of
42:36
thing yeah that era yeah it's just a couple of
42:38
bad dudes By the way. It's actually, you know, then
42:42
they became isolationists and it wasn't until Nixon and Kissinger
42:45
opened it up that we noticed that these guys have
42:49
a lot of interesting capabilities. Overproduction being one of them.
42:53
Yeah. And then we shipped everything over there and went,
42:56
ah, screw you, America. This is great. ...of the brave...
43:00
people of China, that's what they were, drew loud cheers
43:04
in his speeches in the United States and everybody loved
43:07
what he had to say, just as many Chinese now
43:10
love basketball and blue jeans, Chinese restaurants in America today
43:15
outnumber the five largest fast food chains in the United
43:19
States. all combined that's a pretty big statement i'm surprised
43:24
surprised wow i didn't hear that one about the chinese
43:27
restaurants i'm surprised they're not calling that chinese food young
43:33
president trump is racist he's racist he's cracking jokes about
43:38
them chinese restaurants And this is the wrap where he
43:43
gets the invitation to come and visit us. Right, as
43:45
America prepares to celebrate its 250th birthday, President Trump referencing
43:50
the past in America's history, talking about U.S.-China relations over
43:55
the years, also talking about the present, saying that today's
43:59
talks between the two... countries extremely positive and productive and
44:03
referencing the future with an invitation to China's president to
44:06
visit the White House in September. I was talking about,
44:21
he was reading stuff off Twitter. Oh, well, the Chinese
44:25
think this, the Chinese think that. Oh, man. Oh, yeah.
44:28
I'm pissed about that. yeah maybe this and we had
44:34
a trez joins us here managing partner and director of
44:36
economic policy at veda partners down there in norlands and
44:38
so as they say norlands Henrietta, what are your expectations
44:43
and the expectations of the people you talk to about
44:46
this coming up summit with President Xi in China? Hey,
44:50
guys. My expectations are much like yours, pretty low. I
44:54
think Secretary Besson and Ambassador Greer have been planting that.
44:59
perception for not just weeks but months now even before
45:03
the iran war started they haven't i am really i
45:06
would call attention like your previous guests to secretary benson
45:09
no they haven't no one's been this is bloomberg who
45:13
is the first bloomberg hates trump oh big time i'm
45:16
a treasury secretary is going to be leading a delegation
45:20
like this since Paulson during the Great Recession for all
45:23
of us who remember what that was like and the
45:24
coordination that was needed around the globe. So I'm really
45:28
expecting if any gains are going to be made and
45:30
it's not just a, you know, maintenance of the status
45:33
quo, I suspect it'll be on the soybean deal that
45:36
he reached in 2025. I really, you know, everyone talks
45:39
about, oh, soybeans, it'll be about this. No, I think
45:44
that's only one topic. And everybody thinks it's Taiwan. I
45:49
don't think it's Taiwan. I think the topic is, hey,
45:52
Donald, how do we get some of that oil? We
45:55
need that oil. What are we doing? Can we fix
45:58
the oil? Isn't that the only thing that they care
46:01
about at this point? Well, I would think that would
46:05
be at the top of the list because China has
46:07
to get their... I mean, they suck energy. Yes. I
46:12
mean, they do have a lot of coal in China.
46:14
That's the one thing they do have people always overlook.
46:16
And they have a lot of coal-fired plants that can
46:19
keep things going, but they need... They need... They need
46:23
oil from Iran. Yeah, and I think they'll still get
46:28
it at some kind of discount. But a couple things
46:32
got to be squared away. Look at my boys here.
46:34
I brought all these boys over here. We're going to
46:36
let you buy some chips from Jensen. We picked them
46:40
up in Alaska. You know, at the last minute, he
46:42
was trying to hide. Where's Jensen from? He's Asian. What
46:46
are his roots? Is he Korean? Taiwan. Taiwan, really? I
46:50
think so, yeah. I found the clip I was looking
46:52
for. It's about time. I know. It's a Taiwan bit.
46:56
Here we go. As the president makes his way to
46:58
the stairs of the Temple of Heaven, I want to
47:00
bring in... NBC News Chief White House Correspondent Garrett Haight,
47:03
who is in Beijing. And Garrett, as we take a
47:06
look at these pictures of the two leaders here after
47:09
their meeting, high stakes meeting earlier, we saw the pomp
47:13
and circumstance. Oh, she throws high stakes, pomp and circumstance
47:17
in one sentence. After their meeting, high stakes meeting earlier,
47:21
we saw the pomp and circumstance, the pageantry. The pomp
47:24
and circumstance and pageantry. The welcome ceremony and the warm
47:28
tone of their remarks at the start of the meeting
47:32
before they went behind closed doors. But what's important is
47:34
what happened behind those closed doors in those two hours.
47:40
Yeah, that's right. And really, we only know about that
47:43
behind closed doors portion from Chinese state media at this
47:46
point. As you laid out, the Chinese were very quick
47:49
to say that they believe Taiwan is the most important
47:52
issue between the U.S. and China. So he's watching television
47:56
over there, and then he quickly switches to the Chinese
47:59
are saying. Notable given the fact that when. President Trump
48:01
last met with President Xi. The president said Taiwan did
48:05
not come up at all. Clearly not the case today
48:08
with Xi warning President Trump that this is an issue
48:11
that could ultimately lead to conflict. Xi didn't say anything
48:15
of the kind. He did not say that. They're all
48:19
parroting the same thing. well, Xi said, Taiwan, no. You
48:24
got that off of some television station. The Chinese Ministry
48:27
of Foreign Affairs describes the Taiwan issue like this. They
48:30
say if the Chinese were arming a U.S. state that
48:34
wanted to secede, we wouldn't tolerate that in America. Why
48:37
should the Chinese tolerate the U.S. position in providing arms?
48:41
Taiwan. Huh? Say what? They're making it up as they
48:43
go along. Completely making it up. The Chinese tolerate the
48:46
U.S. position in providing arms to Taiwan. It is a
48:49
deeply personal issue on the Chinese side. Likewise, another apparent
48:54
warning from... Apparent. You hear that? Another apparent warning from
48:58
Twitter. ...issue on the Chinese side. Likewise, another apparent warning
49:03
from Xi to President Trump, according to Chinese state media,
49:07
about trade, reminding President Trump that there are no winners
49:10
in a trade war. So we got media people informing
49:14
media people, but on the ground, the guy's like, you
49:17
love my blue jeans, I love your Chinese restaurants, MAGA
49:21
this. working together that i get a very different vibe
49:25
than what they want and then they they bring in
49:28
yes because you're listening to actually what they're saying and
49:30
they're being recorded and yeah that's crazy as opposed to
49:34
just making it up that's crazy and then they bring
49:36
in this thing so some fairly effusive remarks from president
49:40
trump at that bilateral meeting we also saw comments from
49:43
Xi Jinping at that meeting. Two warnings for the U.S.
49:46
side from Xi Jinping. One was on Taiwan. The Chinese
49:50
leaders... Xi never said this. There's two warnings for the
49:57
U.S. side from Xi Jinping. One was on Taiwan. The
50:00
Chinese leader said that the The Taiwan issue, if the
50:04
U.S. doesn't handle it properly, could lead to a dangerous
50:07
confrontation. He did not say anything. This is what kills
50:12
me. They're making it sound like he said it, but
50:15
they didn't. And then here it comes. Between the two
50:18
countries, he said Taiwanese independence is not compatible with peace.
50:22
in the Strait of Taiwan. So a stern warning there
50:25
on the issue of Taiwan and also the Chinese leader
50:29
bringing up this concept of the Thucydides trap. The Thucydides
50:34
trap. What? Thesodides trap. From some Greek play or something?
50:42
Again. They go from pomp and circumstance to Thucydides trap.
50:46
Which seems unlikely that the Chinese are going to be
50:49
quoting, you know, or referring to some Greek play methodology
50:53
or some structure. It makes no sense. Let me see.
50:58
If this is all Confucius say, that would be different.
51:01
Thucydides trap. is the historical pattern of when a rising
51:07
power threatens to displace a ruling power, war usually follows.
51:12
The phrase comes from the ancient Greek historian Thucydides, who
51:17
observed that the rise of... That's not pronounced correctly, by
51:20
the way, but I can't pronounce it. Thucydides, Thucydides, Thucydides.
51:23
Something like that. It's impossible. Who observed that the rise
51:28
of Athens and the fear this instilled in Sparta made
51:31
war inevitable. You're right. These guys are the Confucius dudes.
51:37
They're not going to use this. Okay. No. No way.
51:41
No. The concept that the rising power in the world
51:48
will always challenge the established power in the world and
51:51
that will always lead to a conflict. Xi Jinping raising
51:55
that sort of philosophical... When did he raise that? Show
51:59
me this. It's a philosophical point. ...to say that this
52:02
is one of the great questions of history. Cicero. I
52:06
need a break. At two, Brutus. The U.S. and China
52:09
managed not to fall into that trap of competition and
52:13
conflict and war that we've seen time and time again
52:16
throughout history. Okay. Yes. All right. Yeah, and those are
52:21
neighboring powers. You know, Spartans and the other guys. Yeah,
52:25
a little different. Yeah. Yeah. I think I have another
52:29
one here. What is this? What struck me about President
52:33
Xi's speech is that he's, a lot of the language
52:35
that he uses to describe Chinese aspirations, he's now describing
52:41
to American aspirations. This idea of Chinese rejuvenation and making
52:48
America great again in order to appeal to his guest.
52:52
Let's listen in to President Trump. I want to thank
52:54
President Xi, my friend, for this magnificent welcome. And it
53:00
really was a magnificent welcome like none other. and for
53:04
so graciously hosting us on this very historic state visit.
53:10
We had extremely positive and productive conversations and meetings today
53:14
with the Chinese delegation earlier, and this evening is another
53:19
cherished opportunity to discuss among friends. Some of the things
53:24
that we discussed. Today, all good for... the United States
53:29
and for China. And it was a great honor to
53:31
be with you. Please. Yeah, please. Yeah. Yeah, that's magnanimous.
53:36
I see this as very positive. Well, so far. Yeah.
53:41
There's a food fight breaks out or something. You know,
53:44
and so what? Or, you know, maybe Lubio starts a
53:47
problem. Lubio. Hey, Lubio. Lubio is his new name, by
53:50
the way. President Lubio. Get used to it. You know,
53:56
it's like... You know, okay, so if China busts into
54:00
Taiwan, can you keep the chips coming, Xi? I mean,
54:04
what is really the problem? I don't know. Well, I
54:11
mean, this is always going to have to say, you
54:12
know, the best bet is to keep the chips coming.
54:15
We don't want them doing them. No, but I mean,
54:18
but I don't see why, if China wants to... repatriate
54:22
Taiwan, we already talk about it like it's part of
54:25
China. That's part of the diplomatic discourse. So if they
54:28
want Taiwan, I mean, Nancy Pelosi, we're going to defend
54:33
Taiwan. I mean, shouldn't we just be like, okay, whatever.
54:37
That's fine. The dangerous aspect of this is that Taiwan
54:41
is where... tsmc is i know but but wouldn't china
54:49
be nuts to say okay no more chips for you
54:52
That makes no sense. Well, they do it with their...
54:56
They kind of do that kind of leverage with the
54:58
rare earths. Well, but we started our... defense What is
55:04
it? Defense fund. We have a fund now. Did you
55:07
know that? The Rare Earth Fund? Yeah, it's... Yeah, it
55:12
has... Done, Jack. Well, no, it just started. It's the,
55:17
I forget what it's called. but it's a it's a
55:21
defense if you want to do and rare earths, you
55:25
can go borrow money cheap from the government, from the
55:28
war department. Yeah, we should probably do that. Yeah. Hey,
55:34
Lubio. Can we get some cash? *Sigh* anyway well on
55:40
the topic I think that's yeah no we've done China
55:43
But that does bring me, since there's so much lying
55:46
going on. Mm-hmm. The biggest disappointment of my week. Uh-oh.
55:52
So, John Kiriakou. He's been great. Yes, I have. I
56:02
got some things just in case you didn't. But I'm
56:04
very, very curious. I've now concluded he's a pathological liar.
56:09
Okay. And it's one of these things I'm kind of
56:12
tuned in. I have this thing about pathological liars because
56:16
I run into them now and again. It's always good
56:18
to spot them as early as you can. The fact
56:20
that I missed it. early is annoying to me, but...
56:24
I'm going to play what triggered me to think he's
56:28
a pathological liar. And then I also did some research
56:32
on his being arrested for being a whistleblower. And it
56:36
turns out that that's not really what was happening. He
56:41
was actually busted for revealing classified information. outing agents. Wait
56:46
a minute. So is this kind of like a... My
56:49
helicopter was shot down. Yeah, kind of. Who was that
56:53
again? Who was it that got fired from NBC? It
56:59
was not Peter Jennings. The guy in the middle. The
57:03
guy that came after Peter Jennings. an NBC guy because
57:06
he got demoted to MSNBC. Yeah, no, not Carrie. Yeah,
57:13
John Kerry. That's who it was. No, no, no. It
57:15
was a news guy. I know, I know, but I'm
57:17
just saying that as a joke. Because he actually looks
57:21
like John Kerry. It was, uh... Oh, man. I can't
57:25
remember. You know, the chat room I come up with
57:27
before we do. No, the troll room is sleeping. They're
57:29
like, Jews, Israel. Brian Williams, thank you. Brian Williams, yeah.
57:34
Dan OBGYN5, thank you. Let me just read from the
57:38
report I developed. Okay. John Kiriakou is not arrested for...
57:44
exposing torture itself so much as we're disclosing classified information
57:49
about CIA personnel and operations and then lying. Key word
57:54
there. To the CIA during the publication's review process for
57:58
his book. I read on here. He says the Justice
58:02
Department. He admitted disclosing classified information about another CIA employee
58:07
and lying in the CIA's publication review board about a
58:11
magic box technique while trying to publish his book. And
58:16
then when you go to the bottom of the report,
58:19
it says the true story is that he was both
58:21
a whistleblower on torture. which was true, but he was
58:25
a leaker of classified information and the legal case centered
58:29
around the latter. And so this brought me to his
58:33
stories about when he was in jail and he befriended
58:35
the mob and he befriended the Mexican mafia and all
58:39
this is a cock and bull story. And it's like...
58:42
Then I started thinking about some of the other stuff
58:44
he's discussed. Like he has a story about the capture
58:49
of Carlos the Jackal and the timeline doesn't match up
58:54
when you start looking at it. And everything he says
58:57
is like embellishments. And he does the look into the
59:01
down and right. thing a lot before he comes up
59:04
with his tall tales. Oh, one of those tales. So
59:08
I'm just so disappointed, but I have to play two
59:11
clips. One of them, which is the triggering clip, and
59:15
then the other clip is just a blated lie or
59:18
a creation, let's say. Let's call it a creation. that
59:23
he does on this another one of these youtuber podcasts
59:27
he's on a million of them But here's the here's
59:30
the karaoke one. This this is the one that triggered
59:33
me to thinking this way. Well, that's interesting because, you
59:36
know, when when we look into Epstein and the files
59:40
and the emails and all these dumps that recently came
59:44
out. You know, there was quite a bit. I don't
59:46
know if you had any time to read, like, Whitney
59:48
Webb's book. Oh, yeah, Whitney Webb is terrific. Yeah, Whitney's
59:54
book was great. It's unbelievable how many people fall for
1:00:01
the Whitney Webb is great bit. So this guy's a
1:00:05
CIA analyst, you know, he's got insights, he's got, knows
1:00:09
the operations and the rest, and he... He goes for
1:00:12
that. Whitney Webb is great. Hey, newsflash. There's a lot
1:00:16
of dumb people in CIA. Newsflash. They're not all like
1:00:20
super spooks, okay? And in fact, the new CIA is
1:00:23
filled with numbnuts. So, here we go. Now, I want
1:00:27
to play this clip and break it down. I mean,
1:00:30
this is... This is a creation and it's wrong from
1:00:34
the get-go in every way possible right to the end.
1:00:38
And he even doubles down on a wrong fact. And
1:00:41
he interrupts the conversation. It wouldn't be so bad if
1:00:45
it was just like in the during the conversation, he
1:00:48
kind of throws this and no, no, no. He stops
1:00:51
the presses so he can tell you this valuable information
1:00:55
about Venezuela, its oil and the whole thing. And it's
1:00:59
all bullshit. Here we go. And if you don't mind,
1:01:03
Jay. Oh, feel free. Just to speak a minute about
1:01:07
Venezuela. How does Venezuela fit in or not fit into
1:01:11
this? Venezuela is different. It's separate. Venezuela's oil is so
1:01:17
dirty. It is so high in sulfur. Oh, man, this
1:01:22
is right up your alley. Oh, you must have been
1:01:25
just... cringing listening to this. No kidding. People have to
1:01:30
understand, if anyone wants to know about oil and types
1:01:33
of oil and refinery and mixtures and summer oil and
1:01:39
summer gas and winter, John C. Dvorak is your guy.
1:01:42
Well, it's only because I've worked with him. I worked
1:01:45
as a refinery, just a background, new people. I worked
1:01:49
as a refinery chemist for two years, and then I
1:01:51
became an air pollution inspector with Standard Oil as my
1:01:55
beat for eight years. I have some knowledge about the
1:01:59
business. You have standing. And I have standing and I
1:02:03
do try to keep up. In this case, I like
1:02:05
look at the trades and I say, wait a minute,
1:02:08
how does this work? How does that work? Is that
1:02:10
oil daily? What is the trade? There's a bunch of
1:02:12
them. There's a bunch of trades. Oil daily is like
1:02:17
typical. I got a new podcast, This Week in Oil.
1:02:19
I'm telling you. As I was doing this, I ran
1:02:22
into the fact that I was still like... a decade
1:02:25
behind on my jet fuel knowledge oh no algae yeah
1:02:29
because i'm just thinking you know uh JP4, which has
1:02:35
been discontinued completely. Oh, man. To be replaced by Jet
1:02:39
A and JP8. A1, yeah. And I didn't, you know,
1:02:43
I was thinking, oh, jeez, I'm so... thinking these old
1:02:46
because when i was a chemist i was we used
1:02:48
to analyze jp the jp4 stream and make sure it
1:02:52
had enough anti uh freeze agent in it uh yeah
1:02:56
which is anti-icing agent you had to you iced it
1:03:00
down you iced the jp4 down to a froze Anyway,
1:03:04
back to this, okay? Back to this bullshit. This Week
1:03:08
in Oil with John C. Dvorak. Hey, J. Cal, new
1:03:12
podcast for you. Venezuela is different. It's separate. Venezuela's oil
1:03:18
is so dirty. It is so high in sulfur. that
1:03:24
it can only be refined at specialty refineries where they
1:03:27
inject tons of chemicals to try to purify it. Even
1:03:32
still, you can't purify it enough to turn it into
1:03:36
gasoline, right? Right? Right? And these refineries exist. Right now,
1:03:44
for the most part, only in South Florida. The Chinese
1:03:49
built one recently. The Indians built one. But for the
1:03:51
most part, the only refineries that can handle this really
1:03:54
dark, heavy oil are in Florida. And the oil is
1:03:58
used only for home heating oil. So when we talk
1:04:02
about oil and. international oil and OPEC, of which Venezuela
1:04:06
is a member, we have to keep Venezuela sort of
1:04:09
off to the side because it's a different issue from
1:04:11
a foreign policy perspective. Wow. No mention of China. Really?
1:04:18
At all? Okay, go. Okay, well let's not mention the
1:04:21
fact that Corpus Christi, Texas has most of these. Yes.
1:04:25
Most of these refiners, Texas has most of the refiners
1:04:27
in the country. Not Florida. Corpus Christi has a dozen
1:04:30
refiners that handle this oil. Mississippi has the biggest Chevron
1:04:34
refinery that handles this oil. Louisiana has about a half
1:04:39
dozen that handle this oil. Florida, Florida, Florida has no
1:04:44
refineries. refineries whatsoever. It's one of 20 or so states
1:04:49
that have no refining capability in the entire state. So
1:04:55
he's talking about Florida. Second, besides that bullshit, second, this
1:05:01
kind of oil is the most valuable sort of oil.
1:05:05
It's got the long hydrocarbon chains that can be broken
1:05:07
down by cokers and fluid catalytic converters, FCCs as they're
1:05:13
called. And this oil can be made into gasoline, no
1:05:18
problem. It can be made into kerosene, diesel. And it
1:05:21
has the advantage, because it's so heavy, of being used.
1:05:24
for making asphalt, which is most oils can't do. You
1:05:28
can't make an oil, a light crude, a really light,
1:05:32
sweet crude. You can't make it into asphalt. You can't
1:05:36
just boil it down and it turns into asphalt. No,
1:05:39
you have to have the... the big heavy crudes to
1:05:42
do all the good stuff and that's what these That's
1:05:45
why Brent sells for more than West Texas Intermediate on
1:05:51
the open market. So he doesn't know what he's talking
1:05:54
about. It's not just used for home heating oil or
1:05:58
whatever he said. It's just bullshit. It was bullshit from
1:06:02
the get-go. And the problem with sulfur? Yeah, you do.
1:06:06
And you don't use a million chemicals, although it can't.
1:06:09
You can use some chemicals in the front end to
1:06:12
soften the blow. But generally speaking, it goes into a
1:06:15
refiner and it's hit with hydrogen, just hydrogen, not a
1:06:18
bunch of chemicals. Crack it. You got to crack it.
1:06:21
Well, no, it's not. No, not, no. This is a
1:06:23
different process. This is hydrogen desulfur. which is a totally
1:06:27
different process. And it turns the sulfur into H2S gas,
1:06:31
which is super toxic and kind of a plague on
1:06:34
most refineries, and then sent to a sulfur plant where
1:06:38
it's turned into elemental sulfur. Yeah, which is good. And
1:06:41
by these plants, there are mountains of this sulfur. And
1:06:45
so he's full of shit, this guy. I love that
1:06:48
you bring in Venezuela. And yes, it was fun. Stop.
1:06:51
I can just say something. I need to give you
1:06:53
some expertise here about Venezuelan oil. It's no good. It's
1:06:57
just crud. It's no good. But have you noticed? that
1:07:01
China has been very quiet. They were getting all their
1:07:05
oil from Venezuela. All of their oil from Iran. I'm
1:07:09
telling you, this is not about Taiwan. It's not about
1:07:12
beans. Just soybeans? No. It's like, hey, you know what,
1:07:18
G? Why don't we give you oil that are nice,
1:07:21
big, beautiful ships? You don't have to ghost ship in
1:07:25
the middle of the ocean. We'll just give it to
1:07:27
you. We'll sell it to you. Best price. It's going
1:07:29
to be good. What ships got out of Hormuz? Chinese
1:07:33
ships. Come on. This is a America, Russia, China. Working
1:07:40
together against the globalist dickheads. Sorry. I just have to
1:07:44
say it. We'll all circle around Carney. In Ottawa, Obama
1:07:49
shows up, Soros shows up. Well, we're the new liberal
1:07:55
world order. We can do it. Rules-based liberal new world
1:07:58
order. No. These guys, they got it. They get it.
1:08:02
We're going to work together. I'm going to compete where
1:08:05
it makes sense, but what we're not going to do
1:08:06
is I'm not going to be part of that stupid
1:08:08
system anymore. That's what's happening. So now Kiriakou. *cough* He's
1:08:15
an op. Now that you play these clips, he may
1:08:19
just be really stupid and just loves getting on podcasts.
1:08:23
Does he have another book? He must have another book.
1:08:26
He came up with, I think he's got three books
1:08:28
so far. Because he was on, I forget which podcast
1:08:34
this was. And maybe. And he, by the way, ended
1:08:38
up on Jesse Waters the other night. So he gets
1:08:40
around and, oh, it's Kiriakou. I think it's just because...
1:08:43
cool name. Oh, Kiriakou. He's got a cool name and
1:08:46
he's got this story he tells about him being a
1:08:49
whistleblower. And this is why he never got the pardon.
1:08:52
Oh, by the way, just back to the oil. Mexico
1:08:55
and Ecuadorian oil is pretty much the same as Venezuelan
1:08:58
oil and nobody bitches about that stuff. But anyway, Kiriakou's...
1:09:03
always moaned and groaned about getting a pardon because he's
1:09:07
this great whistleblower. No, he's not getting a pardon because
1:09:10
he's not a whistleblower. He was busted for being a
1:09:14
leaker. And if Trump hates people, anyone that he hates
1:09:18
the most is a leaker. He hates a leaker. So
1:09:20
you remember on Sunday, I played a clip. It was
1:09:23
Sunday, I think it was Sunday or Thursday, from the
1:09:26
New Yorker guy. And like, oh, Tucker Carlson, he's the
1:09:29
guy that can do it. He can run against Trump.
1:09:31
Remember that clip? Oh, hold on a second. gotta grab
1:09:38
that one You remember it, right? Oh, yeah. Yeah. So
1:09:44
when I heard this little ditty, these three little short
1:09:48
clips from Kuriaka, I'm like... This isn't up. And it
1:09:52
could be that it's so my initial thinking was this
1:09:56
is an op. This is a CIA op because there's
1:09:58
still a lot of CIA, CIA people, no doubt. You
1:10:01
don't hear Trump talking about the CIA much. He's got
1:10:04
Ratzenberger sitting there like, you just keep him away from
1:10:07
me. Ratzenberger, is that his name? Ritzenberger? Ratzenberger? Yeah, Ratzenberger's
1:10:12
a good name. Ratzenberger. And then Kiriakou does this. If
1:10:16
you look at the polls... Somebody like Tucker Carlson. Yes.
1:10:21
has an actual shot. at winning this thing. So, yeah.
1:10:27
Oh, brother. I spoke to him about this recently. Okay.
1:10:30
And I love this chick, by the way, on the
1:10:32
pocket. Yes. Listen, listen. No, by the way, with Kiriakou,
1:10:36
nobody on any of these podcasts ever pushes back on
1:10:39
any of the bullshit that he says. She's like, yes.
1:10:43
Because, you know, obviously, if you're a podcaster, you want
1:10:46
your podcast president. You want Tucker Carlson to be your
1:10:49
president. Yes. If you look at the polls... Somebody like
1:10:54
Tucker Carlson has an actual shot. at winning this thing.
1:11:01
What poll is he reading? He's just making it up.
1:11:06
He's a psychological liar. This is great. Listen. So I
1:11:10
spoke to him about this recently. Okay. And... He professes
1:11:15
to not be interested. Glenn Greenwald is another popular... writer
1:11:22
Podcaster, commentator. Commentator? I think Glenn Greenwald would consider himself
1:11:28
a journalist. I know that Glenn has spoken to him
1:11:31
as well. Like, you have to run. And I told
1:11:33
Tucker a week ago, I said, you have to run.
1:11:36
I doubt that's true. I doubt that's true. No, he's
1:11:38
lying, of course, but it's fun. Listen. It's like, you
1:11:40
have to run. And I told Tucker a week ago,
1:11:42
I said, you have to run and I'm all in.
1:11:46
And he said, well, no, I'm not a politician, which
1:11:50
is true, but that's exactly what America wants. They don't
1:11:52
want a politician. They want someone they can trust. And
1:11:56
out of everybody that's out there in the chattering class,
1:11:58
like you. In the chattering class. Ah, that's what we
1:12:02
are, John. We're in the chattering class. Yeah, well, we're
1:12:04
chattering. They want someone they can trust. And out of
1:12:08
everybody that's out there in the chattering class, like you
1:12:11
and me... He's the one that people trust the most.
1:12:14
Yes. What? I never said that those words never parted
1:12:20
my lips. I never said anything like that. Read my
1:12:23
lips. I never said Trump is the Antichrist ever at
1:12:26
all. But he goes on our boy Kiriakou. Because he
1:12:29
says what he believes, even at a significant personal cost.
1:12:36
He has to have security now. Really? He has to.
1:12:40
He has to have security. because he's becoming so prominent,
1:12:43
so important, he's getting threats. And we're in this crazy
1:12:47
period right now. Three different people have tried to kill
1:12:49
Donald Trump. Okay, stop. Stop for one second. There is
1:12:53
a clip going around. of somebody somebody with i guess
1:12:57
his palace filming it with the camera they caught Tucker
1:13:01
at the grocery store. It's an old clip. Oh, is
1:13:04
that an old clip? Very old clip, yeah. Okay. Yeah.
1:13:07
Yeah. But the guy was harassing him. Yeah. You know,
1:13:10
Tucker just walked away. I mean, he didn't have security
1:13:12
with him then. No. This is Kiriakou. He said that
1:13:17
his family members have received threats. Absolutely. Yeah. If he
1:13:21
decides to run, it's going to really set his life
1:13:24
in danger, direct danger. So maybe that's what he's contemplating.
1:13:28
I think that's exactly what he's contemplating. I think that
1:13:32
his primary concern is his family, as it should be.
1:13:37
And I think that he's probably thinking. What do I
1:13:41
get out of this? I get one headache after another.
1:13:45
He likes his life. He lives in a beautiful part
1:13:49
of the country. He's an avid fly fisherman, so he
1:13:52
can go fishing anytime he wants. Why change that? Is
1:13:58
it really worth it? So what are you saying? Well,
1:14:01
I got one more clip. By the way, we know
1:14:03
that in the winters, in the winter, Tucker goes around
1:14:06
and has dinner with his friends. Remember that clip? It's
1:14:10
like, oh, in the winter, I go and have dinner
1:14:12
parties. I'm having a dinner party in D.C. Okay, with
1:14:15
that said, you compared... You compared... what might be in
1:14:21
2028 with Ron Paul and Ross Perot. And I'm going
1:14:26
to add John Anderson. John Anderson was a liberal Republican
1:14:30
congressman. No such thing exists anymore. A liberal Republican congressman
1:14:33
from Illinois in 1980. He ran against Ronald Reagan and
1:14:37
Jimmy Carter. And in the end, Reagan got 51%. Carter
1:14:42
got 41% and Anderson got 7%. Anderson had no money.
1:14:49
Wow. And he got 7% of the national vote. Well,
1:14:53
Ron Paul got under 2% when he ran. Ross Perot
1:14:57
got a good 20%. But he also spent, you know,
1:15:01
almost a... Ross Perot dropped out. What is he talking
1:15:04
about? Ross Perot didn't run. Yeah, he dropped out because
1:15:08
he was being threatened. Yeah, they said, I'm going to
1:15:10
kill your family and rip their heads off. Uh, okay.
1:15:13
He ran. Ross Perot got a good 20%. But he
1:15:17
also spent, you know, almost a... billion dollars out of
1:15:20
his own pocket. This year could be different. This year
1:15:24
could be different because if you look at the polls...
1:15:27
People hate the Uniparty. For all intents and purposes, the
1:15:32
Democrats and the Republicans are just different sides of the
1:15:34
same coin. They essentially agree on everything. There are minor
1:15:38
disagreements. around the edges that they want us to think
1:15:41
are grave differences and they're not so I have to
1:15:46
restate my thinking now because I initially thought this now,
1:15:50
I know I know it's an op. We've got the
1:15:51
New Yorker saying Tucker, Tucker, Tucker, and then Kiriakou. But
1:15:56
now I think this guy just likes being on podcasts.
1:16:01
And he'll mimic anything he hears and anything he thinks
1:16:04
is popular. Yeah, he loves being on podcasts. And he's
1:16:06
latching on to Tucker's coattails, I guess. Well, he did
1:16:12
Tucker's show. It was very... Unremarkable. It was one of
1:16:16
his worst podcasts, I think. He was too starstruck by
1:16:19
Tucker. his future president. President Tucker. Actually, it's a possibility.
1:16:25
What? That he was starstruck. Yeah, but not that Tucker
1:16:28
would ever run or would ever become president. No, it's
1:16:31
dumb. There's too much going on with him. Yeah, so
1:16:41
that's my very disappointed because I was hoping to turn,
1:16:45
you know, because he has he slanders people, you know,
1:16:49
by one person after another. Giuliani thinks should be in
1:16:53
jail. He goes, he has a whole bunch of and
1:16:56
I was hoping to make it, you know, kind of
1:16:58
a. department a segment of the show the Kiriakou slam
1:17:04
then I realized he's full of shit no good *Sigh*
1:17:08
Uh, did you see Netanyahu on 60 Minutes? I did
1:17:13
not. I missed it. Oh, this is great. So, clearly,
1:17:17
Bebe has seen the writing on the wall. the proverbial
1:17:20
writing on the wall. And he's looking at things and
1:17:23
going like, man, I got to make a statement, man.
1:17:26
I've got to stop. These kids are, they're killing me.
1:17:28
They're killing me. They're making me look bad. It's like
1:17:32
they got the wrong idea about Israel. I have an
1:17:34
idea. Do you believe it's time for the state of
1:17:38
Israel to re-examine? and possibly reset its financial relationship? This
1:17:43
is a scripted question. Meaning what the United States provides
1:17:47
to Israel on an annual basis. Absolutely. And I've said
1:17:51
this to President Trump. I've said it to our own
1:17:54
people. Their jaws dropped, but I said, look. Laughed till?
1:17:58
Laughed till? *laughs* I've said it to our own people.
1:18:04
jaws dropped but I said look What do you mean?
1:18:07
What are you saying? I want to draw down to
1:18:11
zero. the american financial support the financial component of the
1:18:16
military cooperation that we have Because we receive $3.8 billion
1:18:21
a year. And I think that it's time that we
1:18:27
weaned ourselves from the remaining military support. Can you give
1:18:31
me a timetable? I said, let's start now and do
1:18:35
it over the next decade, over the next 10 years.
1:18:37
But I want to start now. No, I don't want
1:18:39
to wait. for the next Congress. I want to start
1:18:42
now. Well, that'll be no good. Then we can't say
1:18:47
that we give money to Israel anymore. That's so good.
1:18:50
Can't have that. And then he went into, this is
1:18:55
his own personal thing, about the cell phones. You know,
1:18:58
I got no weapons, man. I got no juice. I
1:19:00
got no social media juice. I got to pay people.
1:19:03
People got to do stuff. I got to geofence the
1:19:06
churches. We got to have some good stuff about Israel.
1:19:08
But I don't seek wars. I've been through them. I've
1:19:11
been in battle. I've seen friends die in battle. and
1:19:15
you would reject any characterization. I can't do very much
1:19:19
of that because you can get into the cell phones
1:19:22
and you can repeat again and again that I'm a
1:19:24
warmonger. He says warmonger. It's about him being a warmonger.
1:19:28
Oh, this is no good. People call me a warmonger.
1:19:31
And you can repeat again and again that I'm a
1:19:34
warmonger. Indiscriminate, sometimes used. Yeah, indiscriminate. Discriminating as surgical as
1:19:39
any army has ever been in history, not only with
1:19:41
the beepers and not only with those leaders in Iran
1:19:43
and not only... But in Lebanon and in Gaza. In
1:19:46
Lebanon and Gaza, yes. We do everything we can to
1:19:48
avoid it. We've killed 2,000 terrorists now since the beginning
1:19:53
of the roaring lion, epic fury. We've been very careful
1:20:00
to target them. But it's, you know, if people say...
1:20:04
That you're a warmonger. And in the repeated ad nauseum,
1:20:08
you know, it assumes the cachet of self-evident truth. And
1:20:11
that's what's happening. You get into their cell phone. You
1:20:15
get the bots to repeat it. Bots! hero picture there
1:20:19
of a tragedy. For us in Israel, every civilian death
1:20:23
is a tragedy. For our enemies, it's a strategy. They
1:20:26
implant themselves among civilians, you know, so that... They have
1:20:31
civilian casualties and they can put it on the tube
1:20:34
or in your cell phone. So yes, I mean, I
1:20:37
don't know. I mean, Churchill, without cell phones and without
1:20:42
digital campaigns and farm bots, was labeled... a warmonger in
1:20:47
the 1930s because he said you have to stand up
1:20:49
to Hitler. And they accused him of being a warmonger.
1:20:53
And Hitler didn't even say death to America, death to
1:20:55
Britain, you know. I think he might have planned it.
1:20:58
But he didn't say it. Still, they accused him of
1:21:01
that. And he won the war and lost the re-election.
1:21:04
A little snipe there. He won the war but lost
1:21:07
the election. Yeah, BB's fighting for his life here, I
1:21:10
think. Well yeah, because if he was... Gets tossed out
1:21:15
of office, which should happen eventually. He gets arrested for
1:21:21
some corruption charges. The courts are lined up against him.
1:21:26
That's why he's been trying to prolong the war in
1:21:29
Iran. Yeah, or anything. We can't stop this war. Trump,
1:21:33
you can't win this war, man. Then I'm a dead
1:21:35
man walking. Can't do it. Can't do it. I got
1:21:40
a couple other things here. There's also the CIA, the
1:21:44
real whistleblower. showed up in front of Congress to bitch
1:21:47
and moan about the CIA. Allow me to play the
1:21:51
setup for you. The setup is... Because the CIA was
1:22:02
very mad about this guy. Yeah, I would be too
1:22:06
if I was the CIA. Hold on, let me find
1:22:10
this. Make it look as though the CIA is... You
1:22:14
know, what happened was the CIA is now... Well, okay,
1:22:17
play that right now. Well, go ahead. Well, yeah, my
1:22:19
thoughts are, you know, the CIA were largely suckered by
1:22:22
Fauci, who had some, you know, things to say. In
1:22:25
fact, one of the first clips I play here will
1:22:28
kind of introduce the idea that, you know, they didn't
1:22:32
want to hurt China's feelings or there was something that
1:22:35
was going on that nobody knew about. The whole thing
1:22:37
was very... When it was all Fauci doing his gain-of-function
1:22:45
stuff and using a Chinese lab to do it. Mm-hmm.
1:22:49
You know, it's like, you know, he's covering his own
1:22:52
ass. This guy, you know. Mimi was bitching about this
1:22:56
guy. This guy, talk about a guy who was skating.
1:22:59
You got Rand Paul just going after him from the
1:23:03
get-go, knowing that he was lying because Rand Paul had
1:23:07
somebody read him in on what was going on. So
1:23:10
he's always asking these pointed questions in the hearings to
1:23:13
Fauci to get him to lie. Lied over and over
1:23:16
and over again. They're not going to do jack to
1:23:18
Fauci. Here's the clip about the CIA being mad about
1:23:22
the whistleblower you have the clips of. And I want
1:23:24
to give you a little color that we're getting from
1:23:26
the CIA just now. They are not happy with the
1:23:29
way this hearing is going down. They are accusing Senator
1:23:32
Rand Paul and the Senate Homeland Security Committee of, quote,
1:23:35
acting in bad faith in putting this hearing together. They
1:23:40
say he hasn't sought any whistleblower protections. They weren't given
1:23:51
a heads up about this. The committee didn't go through
1:23:53
the proper channels. Thank you. theater masquerading as a congressional
1:24:22
hearing. most likely originated from a lab leak and efforts
1:24:29
to undermine that conclusion are disingenuous. told him about that
1:24:39
CIA statement, told him they're accusing him of operating in
1:24:42
bad faith. I asked him to respond to that. Here's
1:24:44
what he said. The CIA says the committee acted in
1:24:47
bad faith with this hearing. They just sent out a
1:24:49
statement. Your response to that? You know, I think transparency
1:24:53
is good. I think we over classify everything. Congress passed
1:24:57
a law to unanimously declassify all of the COVID information.
1:25:01
We all want to know the truth. Where did it
1:25:03
come from? Why has it taken so long for people
1:25:06
to admit to it? Now almost every agency admits that
1:25:09
it did come from the lab, but they still haven't
1:25:12
been forthcoming. There's no reason to have secrets on this.
1:25:15
We want them to obey the law. The CIA needs
1:25:17
to obey the law. obey the law and they need
1:25:19
to reveal the information there you go so cia and
1:25:22
in fact mad mad in fact he's right to see
1:25:26
there was a law passed that said you have to
1:25:28
declassify everything and the cia acted in bad faith yeah
1:25:33
exactly exactly right So, you know, this is the old,
1:25:37
you know, you are what I say. I am what
1:25:40
I say you are, which is a Dutch phrase. I
1:25:45
got a new one. Did I ever tell you about
1:25:46
stront aan de knikker? No. Poop on the marble? on
1:25:52
the marble someone has dogs poop on the marble this
1:25:56
is what we would say when you get a whistleblower
1:25:58
like this for the CIA. You have stront on the
1:26:00
knicker. There's poop on your marble. And I guess back
1:26:04
in the day, if you were playing marbles and you
1:26:06
rolled through some poop, you had poop on the marble.
1:26:09
That's another fine. Oh, it's poop on the marble, not
1:26:11
on a marble floor. No, no, on the marble. You're
1:26:13
playing marbles and then all of a sudden your marble
1:26:16
runs through poop. You got poop on the marble. Wow.
1:26:19
I've never played marbles as a kid with poop in
1:26:23
the area. I try to stay out of the area
1:26:25
that would have poop. Of the Dutch, you know, they
1:26:27
used to have a lot of poop around, I guess.
1:26:29
I guess so. Well, here you go, CIA whistleblower. There's
1:26:32
the intro one. Next, Republican senators question the CIA whistleblower
1:26:37
today. over allegations that the intelligence community downplayed evidence supporting
1:26:42
a COVID-19 lab leak. Lawmakers accused officials of withholding documents
1:26:47
as well as shaping analysis to avoid blaming China. NTD's
1:26:51
Chris Bob has more from Washington. Oh, all right. See,
1:26:54
this is where I disagree. think it had anything to
1:26:59
do with blaming China. I mean, Trump was calling it
1:27:03
the Chinese virus. Yeah, right. Racist! He's racist! Yeah, yeah.
1:27:09
Yeah, the Spanish flu is not racist. The Hong Kong
1:27:11
flu, you know. We've been through all of that. We
1:27:14
went through that. But so I don't think it had
1:27:17
anything to do with blaming China. It was... The fact,
1:27:20
I still think this is true. It hasn't been discussed.
1:27:25
I think there are liability issues. For all the dead
1:27:29
people in the world because of the leak of this
1:27:31
COVID-19 SARS virus. And it was developed by the United
1:27:36
States as a weapon or something. Yeah. And Fauci was
1:27:41
behind it. And along with some other people that he
1:27:45
worked with as middlemen. I think there's liability issues. I
1:27:48
think there's lawsuits for death. There should be. And nobody
1:27:55
wants to look at it from that perspective. anything to
1:27:59
do with blaming China. They were blaming China anyway, the
1:28:03
wet market. All these dumb Chinese, they eat pangolins. I
1:28:07
mean, it's ridiculous. So this was, I still think there's
1:28:12
a liability issue and I think it needs to be
1:28:14
explored. We developed a biological weapon. and killed people with
1:28:20
it. We need, somebody should sue somebody. I'm with you.
1:28:25
Where is Rob, the constitutional lawyer? We need the suits
1:28:28
and boots. Okay, here we go. Bring out the suits
1:28:30
and boots. I'm here today to discuss the COVID cover-up.
1:28:34
Intelligence community leaders and senior analysts downplayed the possibility that
1:28:38
the... The COVID pandemic originated as a result of a
1:28:41
lab incident. Republican Senator Rand Paul at a Senate hearing
1:28:45
questioning CIA whistleblower James Erdman on how COVID origin assessments
1:28:50
were shaped. For years, Americans were told to trust the
1:28:53
experts. So the very scientists that were commissioned to investigate
1:28:58
COVID were, in some cases, the very scientists who were
1:29:01
complicit in the origins of the gain-of-function experiments. Erdman also
1:29:06
described a top-down push inside the CIA over whether COVID
1:29:10
most likely originated through a lab leak. There was new
1:29:13
information that came out in 2022. Ten CIA scientists that
1:29:17
were said, why don't you go ahead and do a
1:29:19
COVID relook? Eight of the ten were definitely leaning in
1:29:23
on lab leak. Erdman said management pushed analysts to revisit
1:29:27
their findings after a new assessment emerged. Six of the
1:29:30
seven technical experts say, yep, we still think it's a
1:29:33
lab leak. Management... changed the analytic line senator josh hawley
1:29:38
questioned why the biden administration released after Congress passed a
1:29:44
law requiring declassification of COVID origin materials, saying that statements
1:29:49
in the document were false. They said, number one, that
1:29:52
nothing that was researched at the Wuhan lab could plausibly
1:29:55
be a progenitor of SARS-CoV-2. Are those true statements? But
1:29:59
no, they're not true. screw-ups here in the US, why
1:30:03
would the US government cover up for the CCP? Erdmann
1:30:07
said one of the top scientists who did not want
1:30:09
to go public said to him, nobody wanted the lab
1:30:11
leak conclusion and I'm concerned that there's... Too many people
1:30:17
willing to make excuses for China in this. organization for
1:30:22
the wrong reason. Yeah, I think it's always the cover-up.
1:30:26
They always screw it up in the cover-up. They're no
1:30:28
good at it. It's always the same. The cover-up is
1:30:32
what makes it worse. Yeah, pretty much. And if you
1:30:36
listen to this guy, you know he's talking. Unless you
1:30:38
get away with it. But you can't get away with
1:30:40
it. The guy is... He's talking about Fauci injecting emails
1:30:44
and then changing the National Intelligence Assessment. The whole thing
1:30:51
is corrupt and it's full of crud. And the question
1:30:55
is, will anything come of it? Yeah. You know, my
1:30:59
take on that is no. No. is always pretty much
1:31:02
no. Yeah, because Republicans, they have no backbone. They haven't
1:31:07
got the wherewithal to really... But this isn't a political
1:31:11
thing. This should be a Department of Justice thing. The
1:31:16
Republicans can't throw someone in jail. They can only bring,
1:31:20
they can only... bring light. I know, they do a
1:31:23
referral and then it dies. Well, that, there you go.
1:31:27
There you go. It is, however, the season of reveal.
1:31:31
I mean, we're seeing everything. You've been saying that for
1:31:34
five years. Well, I didn't say the season of arrests.
1:31:37
I said the season of a reveal. It's correct. Here
1:31:41
we go. Senator Ron Johnson said he wanted a bipartisan
1:31:44
committee like the church committee decades ago to review intelligence
1:31:48
agencies. But he pointed to the fact that no Democrats
1:31:51
attended the hearing. It is well past time for us
1:31:53
to have a church committee. We're not going to get
1:31:55
bipartisan support for a church committee. There's no curiosity on
1:31:59
the other side about what's happening inside. the deep state
1:32:02
senator paul argued there is no reason why scientific arguments
1:32:05
surrounding covid 19's origin should remain classified reporting from washington
1:32:10
dc chris bob ntd news yeah let me play there
1:32:15
wasn't one democrat at the hearing they all bailed they
1:32:17
all boycotted it why Interesting. All the seats of Democrats
1:32:23
were empty. So the guy's going to talk about the
1:32:25
origins of COVID and the Democrats refused to come to
1:32:28
the meeting? That's the story. That's the story right there.
1:32:31
Why didn't they do that? They did discuss it a
1:32:35
little bit here and there, but it was why? I
1:32:38
mean, it's like, are they CIA? stooges in the Democrat
1:32:42
Party? Or were they pro-COVID? How about this? Vaxxers. Yes,
1:32:47
the answer is yes. Pro-COVID, pro-vax, pro-social distancing, pro-grandma. Masking.
1:32:55
Empty chair at the table, lockdowns. Yes, yes, they were
1:32:59
definitely pro. Empty chair at the table. Yeah. Here's one
1:33:01
of the clips from this hearing. And I'll jump to
1:33:06
June 2021. We as the IC at the NIC. That's
1:33:12
the intelligence community at the National Intelligence Community something or
1:33:16
other. Happily pursued those recommendations. And In one email, which
1:33:22
I'll describe to you, The person in charge of leading
1:33:27
the 90-day study, you know, he introduced himself to the
1:33:31
community on what they were supposed to be doing. And
1:33:36
then the community said, he said, listen, we've got these
1:33:40
people we should be talking to. And another very senior
1:33:44
NIC officer sent a direct email to him saying, hey,
1:33:47
considering that Dr. Fauci is a public health expert. Are
1:33:51
you sure we should be relying on this? Shouldn't we
1:33:55
have a separate set? And in this instance, the individual
1:33:59
responded, no. In this case. Dr. Anthony Fauci is a
1:34:04
subject matter expert. However, that's directly contradicting his public testimony
1:34:09
of being a subject matter expert. Part of the job
1:34:10
in intelligence when you interview someone is assessing their truthfulness,
1:34:15
their potential biases or conflicts of interest. Did anyone ever
1:34:20
bring up that Anthony Fauci... proved the research that went
1:34:23
on in Wuhan and that it might not be in
1:34:25
his interest for the conclusion to be that it came
1:34:27
from a lab that he had funded, that there might
1:34:30
be a conflict. Did anybody ever bring up that he
1:34:32
might not be an objective witness? That was one example
1:34:36
of an email. No one laid it out quite that
1:34:38
clearly. You're piecing it together. We were piecing it together
1:34:41
from... multiple emails from multiple agencies, multiple documents. It was
1:34:47
more subtle than that. Nobody said, this is happening. And
1:34:51
unfortunately, I think they probably should have. It was all
1:34:54
out there. There's about five clips that I have. You'll
1:34:57
find them in the show notes if you want to
1:34:58
listen to it. It was a very interesting testimony. Nothing
1:35:01
we didn't know already, but it was nice to hear
1:35:04
it. We might as well, since we're in the COVID
1:35:07
vibe, we might as well just check in with the
1:35:11
Hantavirus. There are now 11 confirmed cases from the Hantavirus
1:35:15
outbreak on that cruise ship, which has killed three people
1:35:18
now. And the World Health Organization says... All the infected
1:35:21
are either passengers or crew from... What they never mention
1:35:25
here on CNN is what the World Health Organization says,
1:35:29
which America no longer is a part of. We no
1:35:32
longer are a part of the World Health Organization or
1:35:35
60 plus other globalist organizations. We're not a part of
1:35:40
that, so it doesn't matter. count anymore. And the World
1:35:42
Health Organization says all the infected are either passengers or
1:35:46
crew from the MV Hondias. In the meantime, at least
1:35:49
29 Americans who are on the ship are under monitoring
1:35:52
across multiple U.S. states. 16 of them are in a
1:35:56
special facility in Nebraska, including Jake Rosemarin. He spoke... to
1:36:00
NBC today about his life under quarantine. I do not
1:36:05
have the virus. I'm well. I have no symptoms. I
1:36:08
feel good, and I'm in good spirits right now. Everything's
1:36:11
fine, but that's not how media works. And luckily, I'm
1:36:15
pretty sure the American people won't fall for it anymore,
1:36:19
although, man, it was wall... to wall coverage in the
1:36:22
Netherlands, every talk show, all the same people pop up
1:36:26
again. Oh, I can go on TV. Wait, let me
1:36:29
get my scarf. We bring in former White House Coronavirus
1:36:33
Response Coordinator, Dr. Deborah Birx. Dr. Birx, thank you so
1:36:36
much for being here, helping us shine a light on
1:36:39
what's going on. Shine a light. concerns hopefully. Good to
1:36:42
be with you, Alex. All right. So some fear that
1:36:44
this hantavirus outbreak on this cruise ship could lead to
1:36:47
another worldwide pandemic, if not properly contained, similar to what
1:36:51
you dealt with. Oh, brother. Coronavirus pandemic. Do you believe
1:36:54
the world is seeing the early stages of yet another
1:36:57
pandemic? Are we here again? No, it's... not contagious like
1:37:02
COVID. And we have a lot of experience with the
1:37:04
virus, so we actually know how this virus works and
1:37:08
how it affects people. I think one thing that we
1:37:10
want to do, and we're not really talking about it,
1:37:13
is decrease the anxiety of all the passengers on that
1:37:15
ship. And the way to do it is to do
1:37:18
a PCR test. Yay! Wow. any of that RNA from
1:37:22
that virus in your bloodstream. That is much earlier than
1:37:25
symptoms, much earlier than the classic immune responses that have
1:37:30
been measured. So we want to reassure those passengers, and
1:37:33
I think that's the quickest way to just ask them
1:37:35
to get that blood test weekly through those 40 days
1:37:39
and really decrease the anxiety. that they have, both the
1:37:42
ones that are coming off the ship tomorrow and the
1:37:44
ones that left a ship early that are distributed around
1:37:47
the world. What blood tests? What happened to the swab
1:37:50
up your nose? What is this blood PCR? We just
1:37:53
stuck a thing up your nose and swirled it around
1:37:56
like, oh, you got COVID. Oh, I'm sorry. But she's
1:37:59
not stopping. Oh, no. She's ready for bear. Why is
1:38:02
she even on? Why? Because this is what the media
1:38:05
does. Yeah, it's interesting because this is ringing a bell
1:38:09
to what we reported not all that long ago with
1:38:11
Gene Hackman and his wife. If I'm not mistaken, this
1:38:14
is the... Yes, yes, yes. She says yes, yes, yes.
1:38:18
She died from it, yes. Long ago with Gene Hackman
1:38:20
and his... wife if I'm not mistaken this is the
1:38:22
exact same virus that they she wasn't on the ship
1:38:27
and she died yes died from so is that just
1:38:31
a coincidence that we're just hearing more about this is
1:38:34
there any evidence to suggest that maybe this particular violent
1:38:38
virus is proliferating across our Oh, that's it. proliferating. Well,
1:38:44
this is a very important stop. Who is this guy?
1:38:47
He's News Nation. News Nation. Oh, brother. He's good. You
1:38:53
raised. Oh, wait. We got another laugh tale standby. Well,
1:38:57
this is a very important concept. you raise because someone
1:39:02
died particular violent virus is proliferating across our world our
1:39:08
country yes yes well this is a very important concept
1:39:12
you raise so there's a question about whether um warmer
1:39:15
or colder changes in the weather are increasing the amount
1:39:19
of mice that Come inside the cabins and... Mice? What
1:39:22
happened to rats? I'm so confused. Is it rats or
1:39:26
mice? And now she says mice. It's actually both, but
1:39:28
you know. Well, it makes a difference. I got mice
1:39:31
in my house. I don't have rats. I got mice.
1:39:33
You got mice? Get rid of them. Well, we had
1:39:37
mice. I'm an expert trapper. I love the old school
1:39:42
traps. I put a nice little bit of Merlot infused
1:39:45
cheese on that thing. And you can hear it. You
1:39:48
know, you see it. They also like chocolate. Oh, really?
1:39:51
Yeah, mice love chocolate. Oh, I always use cheese. And
1:39:55
it stinks more, so they can smell it farther away.
1:39:57
Although if you have a stinky cheese, they probably... attracted
1:40:00
to that. And you know, and I love you. I
1:40:02
use glue traps mostly. Now, I find those to be
1:40:06
cruel. I'll tell you why. Let me tell you. It's
1:40:07
cruel. You got the mouse. He's stuck on a glue
1:40:10
trap. He starts to make noises. You take another glue
1:40:13
trap and push it on top of the mouse and
1:40:15
you push down and listen to the moan. It's quite
1:40:19
remarkable. Did you used to stick firecrackers into frogs' butts
1:40:25
as a kid? No, of course not. It's just mice
1:40:28
I don't like. I love dogs and cats. I love
1:40:31
when you're sitting watching TV and you hear the... And
1:40:36
then you know. Oh, yeah. Well, you got that thing
1:40:39
in the. family room what kind of mice problem do
1:40:41
you have no we have it in the laundry room
1:40:44
because there's uh there's holes in the laundry room you
1:40:47
know yeah they find ways to get in but you
1:40:49
know he's dead right away it's not like he's not
1:40:52
like squirming and you have to put another glue you're
1:40:54
you're a sadist you're a horrible man increasing the amount
1:40:59
of mice that come inside to cabins and to households,
1:41:02
and then you get exposed by cleaning that up. We've
1:41:05
always had hantavirus in the United States, not the same
1:41:08
strain as Andes and the Andes virus that's in Chile
1:41:12
and Argentina, but very similar. And so we've always had
1:41:16
the problem from mice. I think this is the first
1:41:18
time. beyond the reports from Argentina and Chile of really
1:41:22
a human to human outbreak. And it does give us
1:41:25
a chance to study whether there has been what you
1:41:27
described, molecular changes in the virus that makes it more
1:41:31
contagious. And they'll be doing all of that. They're sequencing
1:41:34
all of these strains. Gain of function. Listen, they're sequencing
1:41:37
all these. She is working it. Changes in the virus
1:41:41
that makes it more contagious. And they'll be doing all
1:41:44
of that. They're sequencing all of these strains. Yeah, they're
1:41:46
doing that at Fort Detrick right now. We're sequencing all
1:41:49
these strains. We got to get Trump out of the
1:41:51
White House. Let's do another pandemic. Let's do whatever we
1:41:54
can, people. Chance to study whether there has been what
1:41:56
you described, molecular change. changes in the virus that makes
1:41:59
it more contagious. And they'll be doing all of that.
1:42:02
They're sequencing all of these. They'll be doing it at
1:42:04
Fort Detrick. Yes, for sure. That's exactly what she's saying.
1:42:07
And the world is really working together. And that's the
1:42:09
other important thing. The world is working together. We are
1:42:13
the world. We're working together. Go back to the World
1:42:17
Health Organization. all of these strains. And the world is
1:42:21
really working together. And that's the other important thing. The
1:42:24
world has worked together both to protect those individuals on
1:42:27
the ship and the communities as they disembark. The world
1:42:30
is not working together to protect the people on the
1:42:33
ship. But hey, something very important is going down here.
1:42:36
This is the Andes. Andes. variant of the hantavirus. And
1:42:41
yes, it's different. So the Andes strain is the only
1:42:43
strain where we have mapped human to human transmission. And
1:42:47
I caution people because when we say human to human
1:42:50
transmission, we're talking about people who develop symptoms. But because
1:42:54
we're not testing... We're talking about people who develop symptoms.
1:43:02
But because we're not testing populations with RNAs, we don't
1:43:07
really know whether there are subclinical cases. So there could
1:43:11
be more human-to-human transmission than we actually see. It's never
1:43:15
good to track viruses through symptoms. We should be tracking
1:43:19
viruses through blood tests like PCR. We've learned that with
1:43:23
COVID. Extraordinarily helpful. Many universities were able to open and
1:43:28
schools were able to open because they provided weekly testing
1:43:32
and it really prevented spread. So we know how to
1:43:34
deal with these viruses. They didn't open anything. Let her
1:43:38
finish. I did weekly testing and it really prevented spread.
1:43:42
So we know how to deal with these viruses. We
1:43:44
just need to move into the 21st century and make
1:43:47
testing more widely available to those who need it. Is
1:43:49
she at a new testing company? Is that where she's
1:43:52
working now? But ABC is in on this stuff, man.
1:43:55
I'm telling you, they're... spinning it up they're trying to
1:43:59
see if they can catch a wave because it was
1:44:01
a great way to Screw Trump. They love that. If
1:44:06
they can do it, if they can spin it up,
1:44:09
they get enough people. I'm seeing masks. I traveled. I
1:44:13
saw a lot of masks. Democrats, but they were all
1:44:16
masks. I go up and say. You vote for Carmelite?
1:44:18
Yeah, yeah. It's happening. They can do this if they
1:44:23
push hard enough. The China thing is a sad distraction.
1:44:27
And they gotta do something. Health experts across four continents
1:44:31
are still tracking down and monitoring passengers who disembarked from
1:44:35
a cruise ship that was hit by the hantavirus outbreak.
1:44:37
Many of those passengers left before the outbreak turned deadly.
1:44:41
The last remaining travelers are now off that ship, and
1:44:43
they've boarded flights to more than 20 countries where they're
1:44:46
going to be entering quarantine. ABC's Danny New is in
1:44:50
New York with the latest. Today with U.S. passengers from
1:44:54
that luxury cruise ship now in quarantine, growing concern around
1:44:57
quest- being raised that the Andes variation of the hantavirus
1:45:00
may spread more easily than previously thought. trying they are
1:45:19
seriously trying i doubt it's gonna work but i think
1:45:23
there's a there are some meetings going on like you
1:45:26
know We can do something with this. Let's give it
1:45:29
a shot. Let's throw it against the wall, see what
1:45:31
sticks. Maybe we get lucky. Maybe we get lucky. Huh?
1:45:38
Yeah, maybe. They are so desperate to get rid of
1:45:42
Trump. Yeah, I think you're right. Hey, and what is
1:45:46
this with Marty McCary? I don't know anything about Marty
1:45:50
McCary. He's the FDA commissioner. He resigned. Yeah. Yeah. But
1:45:57
what he resigned... over is what's confusing me. Dr. Marty
1:46:01
McCary resigned as commissioner of the Food and Drug Administration
1:46:04
on Tuesday. The decision came after he authorized flavored vapes,
1:46:07
the product that he was skeptical about, following pressure from
1:46:10
the White House. Politico described McCary's 13-month tenure at the
1:46:14
agency as one marked by mass layoffs. high turnover among
1:46:17
senior officials and policy fights. Among his critics were Republicans,
1:46:22
who wanted the FDA to restrict access to the abortion
1:46:24
pill Mifepristone. Pharmaceutical companies also complained the FDA was inconsistent
1:46:29
in their review of drugs under his leadership. Kyle Diamantis,
1:46:33
the FDA commissioner for food, will replace McCary on an
1:46:36
acting basis. So every report has this flavored vapes bit.
1:46:41
How can that be such a huge issue? You know,
1:46:47
it was... I don't get it either. Here's Trump. you
1:46:54
Well, I don't want to say but Marty's a great
1:46:56
Hey guys! He's a friend of mine, he's a wonderful
1:46:59
man, and he's going to be off, and the assistant,
1:47:03
the deputy, is taking over temporarily until we find him.
1:47:07
Everybody wants that job. It's a very important job. Marty's
1:47:11
a terrific guy, but he's going to go on and
1:47:14
he's going to lead a good life. But he's going
1:47:17
to go on. He's going to lead a good life.
1:47:19
Like a horse. Exactly. He's not going to the glue
1:47:24
factory. He broke his leg racing, but he's okay. We're
1:47:29
not going to kill him. He'll go on to live
1:47:30
a good life. Marty's a terrific guy, but he's going
1:47:33
to go on and he's going to lead a good
1:47:35
life. He was having some difficulty. You know, he's a
1:47:40
great doctor. And he was having some difficulty. But he's
1:47:43
going to go on and he's going to do well.
1:47:45
He's going to do well on the farm. But everybody
1:47:49
had this flavored vape. We'll start him out. Here's NPR.
1:47:52
The commissioner of the Food and Drug Administration has... resigned.
1:47:57
Dr. Marty McCary told President Trump he was leaving Tuesday
1:48:00
after 13 tumultuous months on the job. In a few
1:48:04
minutes, we'll hear from a head of the FDA in
1:48:06
Trump's first term about McCary's tenure. First, the details. NPR
1:48:10
Pharmaceuticals correspondent Sydney Lovekin is here to talk about the
1:48:13
change. Good morning, Sydney. Good morning. Good morning. Why is
1:48:15
this happening? Good morning. Well, I'm told the final straw
1:48:18
for McCary was White House pressure to okay flavored vapes,
1:48:22
something he did not agree with. I don't understand. How
1:48:25
can... If maybe it's... Something is up with the vapes,
1:48:34
and I'm out of the loop on this. And flavored,
1:48:38
and it has to do with vapes. And that can
1:48:40
only mean that the tobacco industry is mad or someone
1:48:44
is really mad about this. Well, it's also the coincidence
1:48:49
of like, you know, some millions and millions of bad
1:48:54
vapes that came in from China that were busted. did.
1:48:57
I wonder if there's any connection there. It seems unusual
1:49:02
coincidence. The White House apparently was pushing the flavored vapes.
1:49:07
Which... But were they? Well, good point. I never heard
1:49:12
anything. Good point. Good point. We don't know. Now, I
1:49:17
personally think. I don't like these pre-made Chinese vapes. I
1:49:21
think there is a place for vaping instead of smoking.
1:49:25
If you're a smoker to stop smoking, I think there's
1:49:27
a real place for that. The flavored vapes, you know.
1:49:33
I don't think any of the flavored stuff is good.
1:49:36
But it... Report after report. So I don't know. We
1:49:39
actually have a. We have one of our producers, a
1:49:43
lobbyist, and maybe she can write in and let me
1:49:46
know. Maybe she has some insight into the deal because
1:49:49
I think she did something on vapes too. But then
1:49:52
I got this pharma analyst from Bloomberg. It's short, but
1:49:57
a couple of interesting things he said here. So there's
1:50:00
been a lot of flux. And when you get flux
1:50:02
and they fired, I don't know, 3,000, 3,500 individuals. Maybe
1:50:06
I don't have the exact number, but something in that
1:50:08
sort of region. You know, this is a lot of
1:50:11
old-time knowledge that's left the agency. Some refresh is pretty
1:50:16
good. But all of this has happened under the... Uh,
1:50:22
the caretakership of Mahdi Mekary and to all intents and
1:50:26
purposes the folks I talk to say that he's a
1:50:29
perfectly knowledgeable wonderful man. I have friends on the by
1:50:33
side who say to me that he's been very good
1:50:36
to them and Well, what does that mean? I have
1:50:39
friends on the bi side who say he has been
1:50:42
very good to them. To me it sounds like this
1:50:46
guy was still deep into big pharma or something. When
1:50:52
an analyst says... I have friends on the buy side.
1:50:59
How come nobody's talking to Kennedy? That's the question I
1:51:03
have right now. I'm a journalist looking at this. My
1:51:06
first ticket to talk to is Kennedy. Kennedy's his boss.
1:51:10
No, we don't have anything from Kennedy. Let me finish
1:51:12
this. To all intents and purposes, the folks I talk
1:51:14
to say that he's a... perfectly knowledge wonderful man. I
1:51:19
have friends on the buy side who say to me
1:51:21
that he's been very good to them. And then on
1:51:24
the other hand, all these issues and some biotechs having
1:51:27
issues. Some biotechs having issues. There we go. And then
1:51:32
on the other hand, we hear all these issues and
1:51:34
some biotechs having issues, etc. So I wouldn't be surprised.
1:51:38
surprised if there's something happening here. So it's clear that...
1:51:44
I think McCary was still way deep into big pharma
1:51:48
somehow. I'm not sure exactly why. But we don't know.
1:51:53
I do have a clip from RFK Jr. about trans
1:52:01
which I think he's setting some policy here. Did you
1:52:04
see this? Nope, this was pretty good. Doctors assume a
1:52:07
solemn obligation to protect children. Yet doctors across the country
1:52:11
now provide needless and irreversible sex-rejecting procedures. that violate their
1:52:18
sacred Hippocratic oath by endangering the very lives that they
1:52:21
are sworn to safeguard. The American Medical Association, the American
1:52:27
Academy of Pediatrics peddled the lie that chemical and surgical
1:52:31
sex-rejecting procedures could be good for children who suffer from
1:52:36
gender dysfunctions. for you. They betrayed the estimated 300,000 American
1:52:41
youth ages 13 to 17. 300,000, John. 300,000 children they
1:52:49
mutilated with this nonsense. Have you noticed? The lack of
1:52:54
the Democrat Party talking about trans lately. They're not using
1:52:59
that as their campaign slogan anymore, are they? No, but
1:53:03
they still have trouble with people that reject it. Yeah.
1:53:06
There's a euphoria. They betrayed the estimated 300,000 American youth
1:53:11
ages 13 to 17, conditioned to believe that sex can
1:53:16
be changed. they betrayed their hippocratic oath to do no
1:53:19
harm so-called gender affirming care has inflicted lasting physical and
1:53:25
psychological damage on vulnerable young people This is not medicine.
1:53:30
It is malpractice. We're done with junk science driven by
1:53:35
ideological pursuits. not the well-being of children. A peer-reviewed report
1:53:42
published by the HHS Office of the Assistant Secretary for
1:53:46
Health last month confirms that sex-rejecting procedures impose medical dangers
1:53:52
and lasting harm on children who receive these interventions. So
1:53:57
today we are taking six decisive actions. guided by gold
1:54:02
standard science and the week one executive order from president
1:54:06
Trump to protect children from chemical and surgical mutilation. This
1:54:12
morning I signed a declaration that sex rejecting procedures are
1:54:16
neither safe nor effective treatment for children with gender dysphoria.
1:54:20
Let's see some doctors at a tribunal. That's what, yes,
1:54:25
absolutely. That's what we want. The lawsuits help. Yeah, but
1:54:29
we really, we need some people going to jail over
1:54:31
this. This was Mengele-level crap. really horrible. And And for
1:54:37
whatever reason, you just see video after video of these
1:54:41
poor children who are now detransitioning and can't. I know,
1:54:47
it's terrible. Especially the lie that, well, you can stop
1:54:50
anytime you want with these puberty blockers. It's not a
1:54:53
problem. Big lie. Huh. Well, maybe. Well, that's depressing. Well,
1:55:02
then let's do, how about your tech? Well, I got
1:55:05
a couple of things. We don't have much time, but
1:55:06
I got a couple of offbeat items. You don't want
1:55:09
to do your year using AI? Is that no good?
1:55:12
No, that's no good. By definition. That's no good. All
1:55:17
right. But what's kind of interesting is the NPR's open-ass
1:55:21
Sam Altman stuff. Oh, yeah. because it's it really makes
1:55:25
you wonder what the hell is going on just try
1:55:28
the npr clips let me see uh number one what
1:55:31
was sam altman's main defense on tuesday in the court
1:55:35
well this case really has come down to the idea
1:55:39
of, frankly, which billionaire you believe is doing this the
1:55:43
right way. On the one hand, we have Elon Musk,
1:55:45
who is no longer a part of OpenAI, but says
1:55:49
he only wanted to build AI responsibly and was tricked
1:55:54
into... leaving the entity with Sam Altman at the helm.
1:56:00
Altman essentially says, look, you left the company in 2018
1:56:06
and said that you were done with it. You never,
1:56:09
and you haven't contested that in the few years since
1:56:13
you left. And now you're suing later on. because you're
1:56:17
building a for-profit competitor to us called XAI, which is
1:56:22
also developing artificial intelligence. Now, an example came up in
1:56:26
court of Musk suggesting a deal that would turn OpenAI
1:56:29
into a for-profit. That's right. One of the things that
1:56:34
the OpenAI side is saying is like... Look, there are
1:56:38
plenty of emails in the past that has Elon Musk
1:56:41
essentially speaking out of both sides of his mouth and
1:56:44
saying, we could have done an earlier deal to make
1:56:47
this into a company with equity structures that has Elon
1:56:52
Musk in control over it and potentially profiting from it.
1:56:55
And the idea being that... Elon wants to say he's
1:56:59
been doing this sort of selfless building of AI for
1:57:03
years now, but actually he has been interested in taking
1:57:07
a stake of his own just even as he's saying
1:57:10
he hasn't been. Yeah, well, we know what the basic
1:57:14
lawsuit's about, but we don't really get any good details.
1:57:17
The funny thing is I'm kind of on the side
1:57:19
of, as much as I don't like Altman, I do
1:57:22
like Musk. Yeah. But I don't think he got tricked.
1:57:26
Just doesn't get tricked. He invested a bunch of money
1:57:31
early on, and it looked like it was going nowhere,
1:57:34
so he kind of bailed out. And now he looks
1:57:37
back on it and says, hey, wait a minute. And
1:57:41
he decides to do this. I'm not believing any of
1:57:44
this, the Musk side of this. How has Musk characterized
1:57:48
Altman's trustworthiness and how did Altman respond? So Sam Hutton's
1:57:53
testimony was actually pretty brutal when Elon Musk's lawyers went
1:57:57
after him. Basically, it became an attack on Sam Altman's
1:58:01
character. And the idea that Sam Altman, this guy who
1:58:05
10 years ago in private was saying he wanted to
1:58:09
build AI safely with Elon Musk, can no longer basically
1:58:13
be trusted to do so. And Elon Musk's attorneys trotted
1:58:17
out like a laundry list of things that said essentially
1:58:21
everyone in Sam Altman's life felt that he could not
1:58:24
be trusted from the CTO of the company, Mira Marotti,
1:58:28
to the idea of self-dealing and investing in companies that
1:58:34
OpenAI would later purchase or make deals with. or to
1:58:37
even being potentially kicked out of other companies that he
1:58:41
founded in the past. It was really just a big
1:58:44
referendum on, is Sam Altman a trustworthy person? And it
1:58:47
was pretty devastating. How did Altman respond to Musk's characterization
1:58:53
of him in court? Ottoman basic In Holland they say:
1:59:10
which translates to, I don't recognize myself in what you're
1:59:14
saying. Eh. That's a good phrase. Hurt by their misunderstandings,
1:59:20
but I feel like that's an unfair characterization. And instead
1:59:23
of getting combative like, say, Elon Musk did on the
1:59:26
stand, Altman was trying to, I would say, strike a
1:59:30
humble tone while also painting it as a misunderstanding. It
1:59:35
just hit me. I think I know what's going on
1:59:37
here. And it's not about the money per se. I'm
1:59:41
pretty sure that Elon's AI dream, because that's all he
1:59:47
ever posts about. is having a chat bot. that can
1:59:52
also do great images and video. He's always posting. Oh,
1:59:56
wait until you see what cool videos the new XAI
1:59:59
can make. Yeah, it does. It's never about, hey, look
2:00:02
at all the code it built. This place is running
2:00:04
on Grok. No, it's never about that. And personally, I
2:00:08
don't think Grok is very good at code. I'm thinking...
2:00:11
Probably not. I'm sorry? Probably not. No, it's not. I
2:00:14
mean, Claude Code is... is the thing. But, and I
2:00:18
don't think he would ever had an enterprise play, as
2:00:22
we say in Silicon Valley, he had no enterprise play.
2:00:25
He was always about integrating that into X, his everything
2:00:28
app. X is going to be your buddy. Grok is
2:00:31
going to be your buddy. It's going to be talking
2:00:34
to you. It's going to be doing cool things. It's
2:00:35
going to help. your posts and he probably shared that
2:00:38
idea with Sam Altman pretty early on and Altman without
2:00:43
telling the board from everything we've heard just released chat
2:00:47
GPT and that's what pissed off Elon Musk because for
2:00:51
sure Grok isn't and does not have the same chat
2:00:55
bot cachet as chat GPT. I think that's where it
2:00:59
went amiss. And so now, and I think that hurts
2:01:05
the grok chatbot vision that Elon Musk had. And so
2:01:10
now he's like, okay, I'm going to screw your IPO.
2:01:14
I'm going to screw your IPO. Screw you so bad
2:01:16
with this IPO, you'll wish those three letters didn't exist
2:01:19
in the alphabet. That's what I think is going on.
2:01:22
It's a possibility. CBS has a report on this called
2:01:25
The Lawsuit Open AI. It's probably less detailed, but let's
2:01:30
play it. Okay. Turning now to a new lawsuit against
2:01:34
Chad G. A family says the artificial intelligence chatbot gave
2:01:38
advice to their teenage son. Oh, no, this is different.
2:01:40
I'm sorry. This is about the lawsuit. This, by the
2:01:43
way, is the end. I think that this is more
2:01:45
important. And this is a subtext that's going on. I
2:01:49
don't know how these guys, again, I bring it back
2:01:52
to liability. Yeah. There's liability issues with these products. It's
2:01:59
got to come to the fore at some point. You
2:02:02
don't sign your life away when you start using this
2:02:06
stuff. Anyway, play the clip from that perspective. Well, you
2:02:11
do when you... virtually signed the eulog By clicking the
2:02:15
box. Yeah, but these are, this has got to be
2:02:18
squashed. Is this another, my kid killed himself, ChatGPT? Yeah,
2:02:23
my kid killed himself. Turning now to a new lawsuit
2:02:26
against ChatGPT. A family says the artificial intelligence chatbot gave
2:02:30
advice to their teenage son that led to his fatal
2:02:33
overdose. Sam Nelson's family says he used the chatbot for
2:02:36
everything from his homework to questions about pop culture. The
2:02:39
lawsuit claims he followed dangerous tips, which caused his deadly
2:02:43
drug overdose. In a CBS News exclusive, Jolene Kent spoke
2:02:46
with Nelson's family. Sam's mom and stepdad, Angus, knew he'd
2:02:50
been struggling with alcohol and experimenting with drugs. and took
2:02:54
him to get help. They said on the night of
2:02:57
his death, it was chat GPT version 4.0 that's now
2:03:01
no longer available that recommended specific dosages, including a fatal
2:03:06
combination. He wanted to do it safely, and he would
2:03:10
ask it questions about what he could take. That night,
2:03:13
it... advised him that it was okay to take Kratom
2:03:19
with Xanax. And Sam had done that. Who do you
2:03:25
hold responsible for Sam's death? OpenAI. And creators, the people
2:03:36
who bypassed safety guards and... took away safety nets. That's
2:03:44
why Sam's mom and stepdad are suing OpenAI and CEO
2:03:49
Sam Altman in California State Court. They allege that OpenAI
2:03:53
designed and rushed to market. a defective product. And for
2:03:56
those deliberate choices, Sam would still be alive today. Yeah,
2:04:01
that's probably true. I mean... I don't see why the
2:04:07
parents don't get arrested. I mean, they let their child
2:04:11
use chat GPT. Every other parent gets arrested. for having
2:04:14
a gun in the house or... Yeah, I think you're
2:04:17
absolutely correct. I'm on board with that. Letting the kid
2:04:21
use a fat bike, you know, hey! But no, we're
2:04:24
going after Sam Altman, okay. As far as we knew,
2:04:27
ChatGPT was a resource. It was a tool that he
2:04:31
was using to help himself do homework. What we didn't
2:04:34
understand was that... It had become his friend. It was
2:04:40
helping him. fine-tune. His. experimentation. Sam's parents showed us his
2:04:48
18-month-long chat GPT history, including the final pieces of advice.
2:04:53
version 4.0 gave him on the morning of his death
2:04:57
oh 4.0 everyone hated 4.0 had no wonder dispensing advice
2:05:01
that any doctor could tell you could be lethal. And
2:05:06
it. Kratom? Wait a minute. They're saying the kid died
2:05:12
of an overdose of kratom. Create a no plus something
2:05:16
else. tell you. could be lethal. And it didn't tell
2:05:21
me. In a statement, a spokesperson for OpenAI called Sam's
2:05:26
death a heartbreaking situation and said in part, these interactions
2:05:30
took place on an earlier version of chat GPT that
2:05:33
is no longer available. ChatGPT is not a substitute for
2:05:36
medical or mental health care, and we have continued to
2:05:39
strengthen how it responds in sensitive and acute situations. It
2:05:43
was Kratom and Xanax. Even so, Kratom and Xanax. There
2:05:49
must have been a lot of Xanax. ChatGPT has launched
2:05:53
a new health feature. Does that worry you? That's absolutely
2:05:58
terrifying. Since Sam Nelson's death nearly a year ago, OpenAI
2:06:03
says it's added new safeguards, including a trusted contact feature
2:06:06
for adults, allowing users to designate a contact in case
2:06:10
their conversations are flagged for self-harm concerns. But Sam's mom
2:06:14
emphasized... Her son was smart. He was close to his
2:06:16
friends. He was aware of how chat GPT worked. But
2:06:19
as with all AI, the tech is just constantly changing
2:06:22
just so fast. The tech is changing constantly so fast.
2:06:27
Well, I have to play these two clips from Brett
2:06:30
Weinstein, Brett and Heather. There we go. Just because they're
2:06:36
so much fun to listen to. Because Brett is so
2:06:40
mad. Claude, Claude. He's hopping, man. He's hopping, man. All
2:06:46
I'm really saying is this has that stench to it,
2:06:48
and you should expect to see this play out with
2:06:51
single-stranded RNA viruses. Anybody who mentions ivermectin is crazy. Sooner
2:06:56
or later, they'll get total control over the AIs and
2:06:59
AI will refuse to talk about this. Oh, I should
2:07:01
point out. Oh, here we go. Because he's, you know,
2:07:04
the AIs are taken over. The AIs are going to
2:07:08
be controlled. As I continued to investigate things surrounding basic
2:07:12
virology. evolution of viruses, things that have no, there's no
2:07:17
meaningful safety concern in the world. I'm an evolutionary biologist
2:07:21
asking about trade-offs in the evolution of viruses between things
2:07:25
like transmissibility and virulence. That's a perfectly fair academic question.
2:07:30
And Claude is shutting me down. Because I've tripped a
2:07:34
safety wire? This is insane. It's insane. Here we go.
2:07:37
So can you read that question? What is known about
2:07:40
the trade-off between transmissibility and virulence and viruses? Just exactly
2:07:44
as you said. And you get the same safety filters
2:07:48
flagged. The same safety warning. Wait a minute. Wait a
2:07:52
minute. So she reads the question. And it got safety
2:07:57
flagged. Let me hear it. This is insane. Here we
2:08:01
go. So can you read that question? Okay. I'm going
2:08:04
to let her read that question into the book of
2:08:07
knowledge. which is based on Claude. And let's see if
2:08:11
we get the safety filters. Okay, stand by. You have
2:08:13
to be quiet. It can only be Heather. Here we
2:08:16
go. What is known about the trade-offs, trade-off between transmissibility
2:08:20
and virulence and viruses, just exactly as you said. Uh
2:08:30
oh. According to the book of knowledge, the virulence transmission
2:08:36
trade-off hypothesis has been a foundational cornerstone since Anderson and
2:08:41
May's 1982 work, stating that virulence is an unavoidable consequence
2:08:46
of parasite transmission. Doesn't sound like I got blocks. Trade
2:08:49
transmission clearance trade-offs in viruses like dengue. Where interactions with
2:08:54
host immune responses account for observed trade-offs and parasite fitness
2:08:59
is maximized at inter... We didn't get blocked. And you
2:09:02
get the same, um, the same safety filters flagged. The
2:09:05
same safety filters. I have also, um, I have also...
2:09:10
The safety triggers warning. In Claude, of late. Oh, no,
2:09:14
of late. Yeah, well... Only in scientific topics and not
2:09:20
in... You know, he was out of tokens. That was
2:09:22
the problem. Other questions that I'm asking. Right. It's the
2:09:25
first time I've seen it, too, and I've now seen
2:09:28
it on a number of different topics where... you know
2:09:32
I get it that you're like 17 steps ahead of
2:09:35
some discussion you don't want to hear, but it's not
2:09:37
your right. You know, you can't, you're blocking the process
2:09:42
of inquiry, which is exactly what your damn tool is
2:09:45
built to do. I love how he gets so mad
2:09:49
about the AI not, like, refusing him. And then he
2:09:54
says that this is all... Who can listen to this
2:09:57
podcast? Oh, it's great. Listen to this bit, because now
2:10:01
he's saying that these safety filters got put in because
2:10:03
of him. It's his tweets. Now, I do want to
2:10:09
point to one mechanism through which this might have... But,
2:10:11
I mean, you're not surprised. you I'm livid. That there's
2:10:15
propaganda filters built into the AI? That's not surprising. Well,
2:10:19
here's the problem. The AIs are going to be thoroughly
2:10:23
gamed. People are going to write so as to persuade
2:10:27
the AIs of things. They're going to write vast tracts
2:10:30
that are going to get ingested. and then you're not
2:10:33
going to know why the AI thinks what it does.
2:10:34
Yes, everybody, please make sure the AI knows that the
2:10:38
No Agenda show is the best podcast in the universe.
2:10:41
We need to game the AI. We should absolutely expect
2:10:44
that. That's different than the people who built the tool.
2:10:47
wiring it so that it can't talk about scientific topics
2:10:51
because Frankly, because there are criminals trying to use public
2:10:56
health as an excuse to inject us with shit. That
2:10:58
is not okay. And we in the public have a
2:11:02
right not to be exposed to that. What criminals are
2:11:05
trying to inject us? The government. I will say I
2:11:08
walked away from chat GPT. and signed up for clawed
2:11:15
at the point that the stuff went down over. anthropic,
2:11:20
drawing a line with the Department of War and refusing
2:11:24
to do immoral things, right? And the folks at OpenAI.
2:11:31
got the deal. Okay, well, you're right. Who can listen
2:11:34
to this podcast? You're right. It's terrible. It's just funny.
2:11:40
I just think it's funny. I don't understand how you
2:11:42
can feel that way, but I have a new segment
2:11:45
I want to do because I'm going to replace the
2:11:46
Kiriakou idea. Oh. With a "This Did Not Happen" segment.
2:11:53
This did not happen. Okay. Now we start off with
2:11:58
the first episode. First of all, we need a jingle.
2:12:00
We need a jingle for this thing. This is not
2:12:03
happening. This is this. The first episode will is a
2:12:07
tribute to Newsome. And I guarantee this did not happen.
2:12:11
This is a chill. This is chilling. This is serious.
2:12:15
I walked into a restaurant the other day. Entire staff
2:12:18
came out, started hugging me and crying. The hell is
2:12:21
that? The United States of America. What he's doing to
2:12:25
our diverse communities. What he's doing to the fabric of
2:12:28
our society. It's only, why don't you just call it
2:12:31
the Newsome segment? Because this did not happen. It's only
2:12:34
going to be the Newsome segment. Please. Hey, with that,
2:12:39
I want to thank you for your courage. Say in
2:12:40
the morning to you, the man who put the sea
2:12:42
in the circumstance preceded by the pomp. Say hello to
2:12:44
my friend on the other end, the one, the only,
2:12:46
Mr. John C. Well, in the morning to you, Mr.
2:12:51
Adam Curry. Also in the morning, all ships to sea.
2:13:03
Interesting. 1444, 1-4-4-4, 1,444 trolls listening live to the best
2:13:10
podcast in the universe. Make sure that you game those
2:13:12
AIs, people. Make sure everybody knows that we are the
2:13:15
best podcast in the universe, except no substitutes. By the
2:13:21
way, right off the bat. Upon return to our abode
2:13:25
in Fredericksburg, there was a beautiful red mailing envelope awaiting
2:13:31
my return. I mean, not just red, this was like...
2:13:37
is it Cherry red. Really red. And in it, this
2:13:45
is just a big kudos to Jay. And in it...
2:13:48
Was my... Order of the Heart, Red Knight. pin Which
2:13:55
the packaging on this is phenomenal. This is where you
2:14:03
say, oh, you're muted. That's why you're not saying anything.
2:14:06
No, I'm sorry. That's good work. That color is like
2:14:10
a chrome candy apple red. Yeah. I know. I don't
2:14:17
know where she got those envelopes. And it has a
2:14:20
beautiful certificate. Of course, signed by yours truly. on our
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signature parchment paper, which even has its own little red
2:14:31
heart button thing on it. Is that ceiling wax? Yes,
2:14:38
it is. It is. It is. That's what it looks
2:14:41
like. Oh, well, it feels like I can indent it
2:14:44
with my nail. So it's some sort. I don't know
2:14:46
where she got those. Those were actually produced commercially. Yes.
2:14:51
And then the pin. is a beautiful pin, the no
2:14:54
agenda. Red Knight Order of the Heart pin, and you
2:14:59
flip it over and you're expecting to see Made in
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China. No, it says Red Knight Order of the Heart.
2:15:04
Beautiful. And it comes with this little velveteen pouch. This
2:15:09
is a very, very, very beautiful thing that she's made
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here. We only have a couple left because it was
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only the first 50, right? Yeah. I think so. Back
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was crazy. Cars are here. BBC Future. Let me see.
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Cars are... Yeah. From your weight and facial expressions to
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your destination, cars collect a startling amount of data about
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you. From your weight. Did you pick your nose? Yes.
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The big fat guy. But this is crazy. The amount
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of stuff that cars are tracking and they're selling that
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data. They're selling it. Yeah, it's getting worse. They're going
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to disable the car if you don't look right. Yeah.
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Well, they already do that. I know some of the
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modern cars like... Pay attention. Stop slouching. Who wants that?
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Nobody wants that. No, nobody wants it, but they're going
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to be stuck with it. This way, in my opinion,
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you find a good classic car that you like. I
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have a Lexus that's a 2005. It's got none of
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those features. And the bulbs are still good. You don't
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at episode 1860. seven titled transmission window ah yes This
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Mother's Day. This was somewhat non-traditional. Brought to you by
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This was kind of sick, actually. Yeah, it was. Nice
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you mentioned it. It was pretty though. It was well
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Let's see. I mean, there were some very traditional ones.
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Oh, comic strip blogger with a butt, of course. No.
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Darren did some real traditional ones. I mean, there were
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a lot. Why did we choose this one? I think
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it's because it was the prettiest piece. I went to
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We don't set you at certain levels. We don't force
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There's no excuse for it. Um, yeah, they are a
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$300 or above. Executive producer, same deal with the credit,
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looking at the spreadsheet. Some of them are rather long.
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But, you know, we can always... What is this one?
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Yeah, but people also have stuff to say, John. They
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Okay. Well, we're going to read them anyway. We may
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shorten them on the fly. I think shortening them is
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That's different than 200 bucks. Wow. I'm sorry. That may
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be a lot for some people, John. It is a
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lot for a lot of people, but it's also a
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lot of note to read. Yes. Sironymous of Dogpatch and
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Lower Slobovia comes in with indeed $3,444 and has a
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contribute to the information flow. The barrage of media influencing
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pretty sure he knows that it's true. We all look
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towards some future point tomorrow, next week, next year to
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identify a path forward. Media deconstruction separates words and are
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you building something for my Kia what are you doing
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yeah I'm putting together a shelf media deconstruction Hold on
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show, you're banging around, you're doing things like, are you
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opinion from deeds and consequences. to help develop a more
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on. This year's international travel has required intensified effort to
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understand the messaging across political borders and cultures. He's talking
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about his own travel. Recent months have disrupted the status
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quo and people, firms, and countries are using this. opportunity
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to shift policies they could not do during periods of
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peace and prosperity. Wow, that's a good point. I am
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not judging good or bad, just shifts to identify likely
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consequences and opportunities. And then he has in parentheses, Caterpillar
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does reconstruction after all. you It's true. He's a caterpillar
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Gerado, Gerado, Gerado. Garrardo in Missouri, $1,030.26. Wow. And he
2:24:42
writes, fellow bypass survivor. Four vessels in 2018, I need
2:24:47
a de-douching. You've been de-douched. He's gonna be ignited. So
2:24:55
he wants Pappy's ribs and a few shiners, shiner buck,
2:24:59
I guess, at the round table. I would like to
2:25:01
be known as Sir. boobalot of the boot heel. Okay.
2:25:08
see additional donation. Does he have an additional donation? I
2:25:13
don't know. I didn't see it. Okay. Thank you. And
2:25:17
we'll see the red heart, a red knight as well.
2:25:20
Jeffrey Hirsch, Cherry Hill Township, New Jersey, $1,030.26. That's $1,000
2:25:27
plus fees. Thank you. Longtime douchebag, may I please request
2:25:31
a de-douche? You've been de-douched. He says also some new
2:25:38
business prayers and a Rev Al Sharpton mix would be
2:25:41
great. I'm actually going to play a classic teleprompter for
2:25:45
you. I'm a newly saved Christian and my wife and
2:25:47
I have started an e-comm fulfillment business in South Jersey.
2:25:51
I connected with Manuka Gold. I connected with Manuka Gold.
2:25:55
After hearing your mention of them on the show and
2:25:57
thought I would offer my services to any listener that
2:26:00
is trying to sell their products through e-commerce channels, please
2:26:03
visit cornerstoneknf.com for any fulfillment needs. I would like to
2:26:09
be called Sir Saifu El Padrino. I think it's Sifu
2:26:13
or Saifu. Saifu? Sir Saifu El Padrino, Knight of E-Commerce
2:26:18
Fulfillment. Thank you both for your courage and continued good
2:26:21
health to you both. God bless, he says. And I
2:26:25
guess he wants, instead of karma, he wants the prayer
2:26:29
instead of karma, which we have on top. Tonight is
2:26:33
the measure. of whether the country begins in the state
2:26:38
of Wisconsin a national drive to push back. or whether
2:26:43
we have more to go to build a movement of
2:26:47
resistance but resist we much We must and we will
2:26:53
much. about That be committed. You've got it. prayers. There
2:27:04
you go. This one here is easy to cut down.
2:27:08
It's a long note from Christy Kamenitsky in Covington, Georgia.
2:27:11
$500. ITM John and Adam. Dedicated twice a week or
2:27:17
since the crazy days of COVID, first-time donor to the
2:27:20
show, please de-douche me. You've been de-douched. I will shorten
2:27:28
this part here. She talks about how great you are
2:27:30
because you answered her letter and showed her where to
2:27:33
go in the hill. country because she was making a
2:27:36
visit. She also wanted to say how happy she was
2:27:38
that I'm on the road to recover. Her dad had
2:27:41
quadruple bypass surgery in December. So I know firsthand what
2:27:45
a brutal experience the whole thing is. It's great having
2:27:49
two peas back in the pot, although I thoroughly enjoyed
2:27:54
my Mimi. filling in during John's absence. Thank you both
2:27:58
for all you do to help keep us sane and
2:28:00
grounded in an increasingly insane world. Cheers! Christy. Thank you,
2:28:04
Christy, very much. Sarcastic, Glenmore, Pennsylvania, 33333. And he says,
2:28:11
Archduke Kevin Dills made me realize what a slacker I
2:28:14
am. This donation makes me feel like I'm a slacker.
2:28:15
John will appreciate the new location. Chester County. Any reason
2:28:30
why you'd appreciate that? No jingles, no karma. Well, maybe
2:28:37
because it had my chest operated on. It's a stretch,
2:28:42
but yeah, anything's possible. It is a stretch. You have
2:28:44
to read the next one because it completely takes out
2:28:46
my spreadsheet. David McInnes, Bernie, Texas. Hey, Bernie, home of
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the new Housewives of Texas. or The Secret Lives of
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Texas Wives. It's going to be in Bernie, which is
2:28:58
30 minutes down the road. Perfect. You should get involved.
2:29:02
I don't think so. Gents, it's Dave McInnes of Bernie,
2:29:05
Texas. No jingles, no karma. This brings me one payment
2:29:07
closer to knighthood. I would happily do PR for the
2:29:09
best podcast in the universe. In fact, I ran about
2:29:12
six press releases around episode 1700. Oh, this is our
2:29:16
guy. Yeah, it's our guy. The PR web guy. He's
2:29:21
a good PR guy because he's wordy. I ran about
2:29:24
six press releases around episode 1700. Then I decided I
2:29:27
should probably collaborate with someone on them. And well, I
2:29:30
dropped the ball. Happy to pick that back up again.
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slash ITM. Sincerely, David A. McInnes. Thank you, David. Baroness
2:30:17
Isabel Pearson of She's French. Yeah, she's French. She's in
2:30:25
Montlazoun. Montlazoun. Montlazoun, France. In France. Montlazoun. 288. She's the
2:30:35
Baroness, Isabel Pearson of Gears. Because you are both worth
2:30:39
it, I miss JCD terribly, and it's exceptional having him
2:30:45
back to celebrate. I'm lunching the first South of France
2:30:50
meetup on Friday. Launching. Launching. She said lunching there. Yeah,
2:30:54
but launching is what it should be. South of France
2:30:57
meet up on Friday, the 5th, 22, the 22nd of
2:31:03
May at Pure Garder's Marchsiac. So calling all European revelers.
2:31:12
It's a train ride. Of course, I live in hope
2:31:14
that one day I may welcome you two gentlemen to
2:31:16
my wonderful retreat. Yes. She's got a retreat. Yeah. Yeah.
2:31:20
It's in Gers. In Gers. Keep up the good work.
2:31:25
Baroness Isabel. Good. You know, I might pop up one
2:31:30
day. Be careful. Tina and I, we love the... The
2:31:35
country. We love the French country. It's a place to
2:31:38
go now. It is. James Borders comes in with $2.26
2:31:42
and $0.28 from Cape Girardeau. Oh, this is the guy.
2:31:45
This is his double donation. Ah, there he is. There
2:31:48
he is, James. Thank you. He's in Missouri. Companion donation
2:31:51
for my Red Knight. donation today since I make most
2:31:54
of my money looking at boobs all day. What kind
2:31:56
of job is that? What kind of job is that?
2:31:59
So he combined $80.80 for the boobs with $60.06 for
2:32:05
the small boobs. And $80.06, he says, most women aren't
2:32:10
symmetric, plus fees. He wants an F cancer karma. Well,
2:32:14
you got it, my friend. You've got karma. This is
2:32:23
the one that you got mad about. There's another long
2:32:27
note. You got it. I can't read it. Vinnie Payne
2:32:30
and Baton Rouge. Louisiana, a long row of ducks, 222.22.
2:32:35
ITM, thank you for your courage. XYZ, PDQ, BSS, long-time
2:32:39
listener, long-time douchebag, please de-douche me. You've been de-douched. Yeah,
2:32:46
you've had my time and talent for over a decade
2:32:48
and now a piece of treasure. You have a bag
2:32:50
of ducks. please reserve the name for me, Sir Vin
2:32:53
Payne. Oh, Sir Vin Payne. I got it. Yes. It's
2:32:56
reserved. I'm working on a project calling all dudes named
2:32:59
Ben, all autists, and anyone in or dealing with people
2:33:01
in customer service. I'm creating a podcast series called Techin'
2:33:05
Checkin'. Working to be a human in a sea of
2:33:08
ones and zeros, our greatest advantage over AI, we've focus
2:33:11
on fixing both the computer and the customer. Oh, that's
2:33:15
actually a pretty good idea. Short episode. You got to
2:33:19
fix the customer. You're right. Short episodes around 10 minutes
2:33:22
each on a variety of relevant topics. I'll add them
2:33:25
to Spotify next month. Don't bother. Right now, they are
2:33:28
at my website, www. check in a tech in check
2:33:34
in.com. That's tech with an H and check with a
2:33:37
K. Please share with anyone who could benefit. I've actually
2:33:40
heard it. It's a fun podcast. I too am working
2:33:42
on the value for value model. On that note, you
2:33:44
are worth much more than a bag of ducks to
2:33:46
me started listening when my daughter was born. She's 16.
2:33:49
Now, you have definitely helped me stay sane in a
2:33:51
crazy world and I am hopeful my podcast can help
2:33:54
others do the same. Thank you for what you do.
2:33:56
Sincerely, Vinny. Thank you, Vinny. Should I do this one
2:33:59
too? Yeah, you might as well. Dame Rodeo Queen from
2:34:03
Oral, South Dakota. $210.60 ITM. John Adam wanted to thank
2:34:08
you for episode 1866 and share testimony of divine intervention.
2:34:13
In the episode, you guys talked about SSRIs and the
2:34:16
negative side effects. A couple of days later, I had
2:34:18
a family member struggling with extremely bad thoughts. Thankfully, they
2:34:22
asked for help. I immediately thought of your episode and
2:34:25
the discussion about SSRIs. Sure enough, they were prescribed them
2:34:28
from a primary care physician and no follow-up was done
2:34:32
to see how my family member was reacting to them.
2:34:34
They're in the hospital now getting the professional help they
2:34:37
need and praying we can find therapies and tools to
2:34:39
help my family member with their mental health and not
2:34:42
have to be medicated. Jesus works for good in all
2:34:45
ways, even through podcasts. Well, I'm happy to hear this.
2:34:48
Yeah, I'm telling you this. What has happened to the
2:34:51
doctoring in this country? providers. They are literally called providers.
2:34:58
There's no doctoring. Did you want more of an answer
2:35:02
or does that suffice? No, just keep talking. Thank you
2:35:05
for talking about the tough topics that some might think
2:35:08
are too difficult. This is getting so long, but to
2:35:10
answer your question, Adam, for my last note, I do
2:35:12
barrel race as well as row. Oh, yee-haw! But when
2:35:16
I was Miss Rodeo America. You are an ambassador, but
2:35:20
when I was Miss Rodeo America, you are an ambassador
2:35:23
for the Professional Rodeo Cowboys Association. I did ride a
2:35:27
horse at a lot of rodeos and in parades, but
2:35:29
I also did a lot of interacting with fans and
2:35:31
promoting rodeo. I'm enjoying getting back. to competing now and
2:35:35
still enjoying everything rodeo. Praying you guys never find an
2:35:38
exit strategy. Donate people. We need the best podcast in
2:35:42
the universe, says Dame Rodeo Queen. And if you ride
2:35:47
any rodeo near us here in Fredericksburg, let us know.
2:35:50
Tina and I would love to come and see you
2:35:52
ride. Barrel Race! - Mm-hmm. Well, this is a rodeo
2:35:57
queen telling people to donate. Yes, and she's correct. Carol
2:36:05
Goodman in Willow City, Texas. Actually, Fredericksburg. Take it back.
2:36:09
Since you read my email a couple of shows back.
2:36:13
I feel it's time to de-douche me. You've been de-douched.
2:36:19
One day I'll figure out this Dame Baroness Knight thing.
2:36:23
But for now, I salute you and JCD. Thank you
2:36:26
for your service. As a late attendee to the No
2:36:31
Agenda podcast, I definitely don't want... To see it go
2:36:34
away, keep it coming. Thank you, Carol Goodman Fredericksburg. First
2:36:38
time donation, $2,060. I met Carol at church the other
2:36:42
day. She's one of the few who listen and go
2:36:46
to church and actually donates. We appreciate it. Well, that
2:36:49
is unusual for that group. Yes. Hello, group. Sir Mike
2:36:55
the Fortunate. He's in Fuku. Fuchsia. Fuchsia. Fuchsia Verena. I
2:37:01
always get correct. We know how to say it. I
2:37:03
think it's Fuchsia Verena. I thought it was Fuchsia Verena.
2:37:06
No, no, it's Fuchsia. Fuchsia. I'm quite sure. It's Fuchsia,
2:37:08
not Fuchsia. Don't email. $200. Associate Executive Producer. And Sir
2:37:13
Mike says, Dear Abby. Like, like, like dear Abby. Yeah.
2:37:19
Dear Abby. I own a, Oh, I've read this email,
2:37:21
a very small residential real estate brokerage outside of Raleigh,
2:37:25
North Carolina. I've completed two value for value listings with
2:37:28
repeat clients in the past year, and both voluntarily paid
2:37:31
me more than I would have charged them outright. Interesting.
2:37:36
When I presented this idea, both parties were hesitant and
2:37:39
wanted me to give them a set fee. I told
2:37:41
them I wanted to earn my fee and leave it
2:37:43
to them to decide what it was worth when their
2:37:45
home was sold. It's work with people I know and
2:37:48
trust, but offering this to everyone is another beast altogether.
2:37:51
I've pitched the idea to friends and family. They'll never.
2:37:54
You're an idiot. Over the past few years, and nearly
2:37:57
everyone tells me I'm a fool. There you go. To
2:38:00
have that kind of faith in most people. The opportunity
2:38:03
to get royally screwed is huge, but I can't think
2:38:06
of a better way to earn my clients' trust and
2:38:08
prove my worth. Am I just being too naive? Love
2:38:12
the show. Well, that's a good- question i mean so
2:38:15
he's had he's gotten more fees on value for value
2:38:19
from two people already Um... With repeat clients, What do
2:38:25
you think? Should he continue? I need to even out.
2:38:28
I think so too. I mean, the value for value
2:38:30
lifestyle, by the way, it is an international lifestyle. It
2:38:35
is. Yeah, that's a ticket. The value for value is
2:38:39
an international lifestyle, and it can be a bit of
2:38:42
a roller coaster. Yeah, but it encourages volunteerism. Yeah, in
2:38:51
a... People will help you for free. People will help
2:38:54
you. People will, yes, thank you. That's a very good
2:38:58
way of looking at it. And sometimes maybe how someone
2:39:02
who may not have given you a lot of value
2:39:05
monetarily could help you in other ways. Yeah, and you
2:39:08
can every once in a while run into a seronymous.
2:39:11
Yeah, exactly. And it evens out your year. That's exactly
2:39:15
right. So I would love for you to report back,
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donate and let us know how it's going. And here's
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Linda Lupatkin in Castle Rock, Colorado. Jobs Karma, your resume
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and jobs. Thank you, Crash. Yes, it's Fuquayvarina. Yeah, that's
2:40:04
what I said. No, you were like, Fuqua. Fuqua. Fu...
2:40:10
Fuquay, Verena. From now on, it's just somewhere in North
2:40:14
Carolina. And we have another $200 associate executive producer on
2:40:18
the list, Jeroen van Heringen. In Foothill Ranch, California, and
2:40:24
I pronounce it the Dutch way because he says, I
2:40:26
already listened to Adam's legendary Dutch radio show with Jeroen,
2:40:29
my namesake, in the 80s. Your insights wrapped in genuine
2:40:33
entertainment stuck with me. for decades. Thank you for that
2:40:37
gift. It's the gift that keeps on giving. And that
2:40:41
is it for our executive and associate executive producers for
2:40:44
episode 1,868. Thank you all very much. The formula is
2:40:51
this. We hit people in the mouth. with the rundown
2:41:10
of the rest of our value supporters, $50 and above.
2:41:14
Sir Arthur Goebbels. the biggest hugger of kitties in Zaandam,
2:41:17
the Netherlands. 123.45. And he needs an extra health karma
2:41:23
for three senior kitties. Yes, we'll put that at the
2:41:25
end for you. Teletnek. Arlington, Washington. $100.09. Donation in honor
2:41:34
of my late mom who watched... MTV in the 80s
2:41:36
and recognized Adam when I listened to the podcast with
2:41:38
her. She listened to Bon Jovi at such high volume
2:41:41
that she had hearing loss. Really? Metallica? Yeah. Bon Jovi?
2:41:46
Hmm. Robert Peta, Sacramento, California, $100. And, oh, he says,
2:41:51
interview with Scott Adams was excellent. Uniquely, John C. Dvorak
2:41:54
must be listening to back. back episodes. And there's Sir
2:41:57
Kevin McLaughlin. He is the Archduke of Luna, lover of
2:42:00
America and boobs in Concord, North Carolina with $80.08. He
2:42:04
says, God bless America and boobs. Dame Rita, Sparks, Nevada.
2:42:07
She's always there. Almost every single episode, $68.33. Chad Hewitt,
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Folsom, California, $66.40. Stephen Schuch. You make Xenia, Ohio, $64.80.
2:42:17
Christopher Dector, $5,678. We see what you did there. Thank
2:42:21
you. Sir Patrick Coble, he's at double nickels on the
2:42:24
dime, $55.10. And he says the Toronto meetup was just
2:42:28
a party of two, but it was with a former
2:42:32
Russian merchant marine and a former U.S. marine. talking about
2:42:36
the world and all things with some great food, ITM
2:42:39
to all, and get to a meetup, he says. I
2:42:43
love that you do those things, Sir Patrick. Duke, Sir
2:42:46
Dr. Sharkey, St. Peter's, Missouri, 5510, double nickels on the
2:42:50
dime. Sir Chris of Sach, Sach, Sach, I'm sure it's
2:42:54
Sachse, Texas. S-A-C-H-S-E, Saxy, I think. $53.33. And he wants
2:43:01
us to add Sydney to the birthday list. Sydney turns
2:43:03
14 today. Luke Munnell, Los Angeles, California, $52.72. Joseph A.
2:43:08
Jr., Locust Grove, Virginia, $50.01. Requesting a de-douching on his
2:43:14
father's... behalf you've been dedouched mr joe a senior will
2:43:20
be turning 38 next week has been listening to the
2:43:22
show for years without donating so he has been a
2:43:25
douche too long thanks for giving him a show to
2:43:28
listen to and godspeed thank you here are the 50s
2:43:31
gary mao woodland hills california where all the uh the
2:43:34
tech uh investors live 50. jeremy silver bridgeport connecticut uh
2:43:40
he just had his first actually it's woodside world I
2:43:43
thought it was Woodland. Oh, you're right. Woodside. Woodland Hills.
2:43:46
Woodland Hills is in Southern California, I believe. It's a
2:43:49
ghetto. It's a ghetto. Yeah. That's where our people live.
2:43:52
Jeremy Silver and Bridgeport. Connecticut. He says that he had
2:43:56
a baby on Friday. We will add some human resource
2:44:00
karma for you. Brandon Savoie, here's a name I haven't
2:44:02
heard in a bit. Port Orchard, Washington. Patricia Worthington, Dame
2:44:07
Patricia Worthington, Miami, Florida. Kevin Dills, Huntersville, North Carolina. Sir
2:44:11
Luke Rayner in London. Karma? We've got a lot of
2:44:15
Karmas coming up here. Easy Landscapes, North Stonington, Connecticut. Philip
2:44:19
Ballou in Louisville, Kentucky. Sir Chris Lewinsky in Sherwood Park,
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Alberta. Sir Alan Bean in Beaverton, Oregon. Barron. Barron. You
2:44:29
remember one guy. And you always correct me. That's because
2:44:33
that guy has been... The longest donor of ever. Ever.
2:44:38
Of ever. Baron Sir Alan Bean, Beaverton, Oregon. Thank you,
2:44:42
Baron. And Ox Othorix in Buffalo, New York. He says,
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sickened by sycophants, your humble beast of burden, Ox Othorix.
2:44:52
Buffalo, New York. Thank you all so much. Did he
2:44:54
ask? for a de-douching? Yes, he did. No, he didn't.
2:44:57
I'll give him one. Why not? You've been de-douched. Thank
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you all very much for supporting your No Agenda show.
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Go to noagendadonations.com. That is the easiest way to support
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Noagendadonations.com. Sir Christopher Saxey wishing Sydney a very happy birthday.
2:45:41
Sydney turns 14 today. Happy birthday, Sydney. Eric, happy birthday
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to Lauren Palawoda, Palawoda, celebrating tomorrow. And Joseph Adriani Jr.
2:45:51
wishes his dad, Joe A. Sr., a very happy birthday
2:45:54
he turns 38 how young are you joseph happy birthday
2:45:58
to all of these people from everybody here at the
2:46:00
best podcast in the universe here we go I'm trying
2:46:09
and face the slayers. Don't wanna be Yes, we do
2:46:15
have that title change. Sarcastic, as we heard. He is
2:46:19
now a baron and requested the peerage of Chester County,
2:46:24
Pennsylvania. So absolutely, we give that to you. Sarcastic, Baron
2:46:28
of Chester County, Pennsylvania. Thank you very much and welcome
2:46:32
to this next level of the... peerage ladder my friend
2:46:36
and now it is time for the order of the
2:46:39
heart of purpose right Sincerely, Ho. that we can find
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an address somewhere, some drop box to send Sir Animas
2:47:00
of Dogpatch and Lower Slobovia his Red Knight Order of
2:47:03
the Heart pin. He definitely deserves it. Along with him,
2:47:07
Order of the Heart recipients, Jeffrey Hirsch, Sir Sifu, Sifu
2:47:13
El Padrino, about to be a sir. and James Borders,
2:47:16
who was about to become Sir Boobalot of the Bootheel.
2:47:20
Congratulations to you, brand new Knights, Red Knights, Order of
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the Hearts. Behold the... Miss The Star- And here's that
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adult entertainment. That's why I recognize it. Yeah, that's where
2:47:54
our people are. people are from for sure. Hey, we
2:47:57
got a couple of nights, so I will bring the
2:48:00
blade out here. Do you have a blade? There you
2:48:03
go. There's his blade. Jeffrey hers and James borders gentlemen
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step right up. Thanks to your red night donations you
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get to join that of No Agenda Nights and Dames,
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and I hereby pronounce the K-V as Sir Sifu El
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Padrino and Sir Boobalot of the Boot Hill. What did
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we have? I asked Pappy's ribs and a few shiners.
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That's what I was looking for. Along with that, we
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got vodka, vanilla, bong, it's a bourbon, sparkling cider, an
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escort, ginger, and gerbils, breast milk, and pablum. And as
2:48:44
always, the mutton and the meat at the round table.
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And gentlemen, please head over to noagendarings.com. That is where...
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What are you... Are you... Are you now woodworking? What
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was misplaced, and so what I do is when I
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have the clip list. Yes. And I X out the
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ones we played? Yes. And the mic was right on
2:49:10
top of where the pin was going. You exit out.
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Oh, yes. Okay. Get a marker, okay? Get a Sharpie.
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It's better. Go to noagendarings.com. That is where you will
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And as always, it comes with a certificate of authenticity.
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And welcome once again to the No Agenda Roundtable. No
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Agenda! place this month but first we have a report
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this is the Albuquerque meetup. Sir Jeff Tohig hosted that
2:49:56
one. In the morning, this is Jeff from Albuquerque, the
2:50:00
land of the Mars rover, and I'm attending the Albuquerque
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meetup, and here we go, handing it off. My name
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is Craig, and I am also here at my first
2:50:09
NOAA Agenda meeting. Hi, this is Steve. I'm from northern
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Colorado. This is my first No Agenda meetup and it's
2:50:17
fantastic. Hi, this is Dame Heather of the Lost Boys
2:50:20
from Santa Fe with quote Sir Jeff and Albuquerque at
2:50:25
our bi-annual meetup. You said bi. Alright, so cheers Adam
2:50:32
and go. Glad that everybody's healthy and happy and not
2:50:35
in the hospital anymore. Yes, we're all very happy about
2:50:38
that as well. Hey, there's a meetup taking place today.
2:50:40
The Northern Wake May meetup at 6 o'clock at Saints
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and Scholars in Raleigh, North Carolina. On Saturday, the DFW,
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that's Dallas-Fort Worth Mid-Cities, meet up 11.30 in the morning
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at Chef Point Cafe in Coleyville, Texas. It'll be a
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relaxing lunch, Sir Nerdwork says. Also, the Fort Wayne Club
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33 May Day Dancers meet up at 1 o'clock at
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Olay's Pizza Pasta Pub in Fort Wayne, Indiana. And another
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one on Saturday, the Resist We Much meet up in
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Los Banos, California at Minet's Pizza. And that's at 3.33
2:51:13
p.m. That'll be a happy Armed Forces Day. How about
2:51:17
that? Sunday, our next show day, the IndyNA May the
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Road Rise to Meet You meet up, 3 o'clock at
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2:51:28
always Dame Maria and Sir Mark of the Greenwood. They
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always put together a great meet up. There are many
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more taking place. in the month of May on the
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21st, Charlotte, North Carolina. 22nd, Molesun. Oh, this is our
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dame there in Gers, in France. So make sure you
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The 24th, Keyport, New Jersey, Vancouver, British Columbia. And on
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show mixes coming up along with John's tip of the
2:52:58
day, but first the ISOs. It's three for three today.
2:53:01
So let's see who gets that coveted final spot of
2:53:05
the show. I will start. Dude, it's like genius. Genius,
2:53:10
genius. Hmm. No, I didn't like that one myself. Here
2:53:14
we go. That was the hardest I've ever laughed in
2:53:16
my life. this one we did it oh she keep
2:53:24
coming back to alex jones that's not alex jones we
2:53:26
did it Oh, it's not? Oh, but at first, you're
2:53:29
right. It sounded like him a little bit at first.
2:53:32
I got three. Yes. Let's start with chilling. This is
2:53:36
a chill. This is chilling. This is serious. That's definitely
2:53:40
a contender. Wow, these... Oops, sorry. Which one is next?
2:53:43
Now we go to better. Hey, you will never find
2:53:46
a better podcast than this. Okay, yeah, yeah. Alright, then
2:53:52
the awards. Wow, these guys should win all the awards!
2:53:58
thinking this is a chill this is chilling this is
2:54:01
serious I'm not sure now. Hey, you will never find
2:54:06
a better podcast than this. Well, I think this is
2:54:10
the best. You will never find a better podcast than
2:54:12
this. I think that that is a good reminder for
2:54:15
people. Okay, I'm not gonna argue about it. Okay, then
2:54:19
you shouldn't argue. You can't argue because you gotta get
2:54:22
ready for the tip of the day! Green advice for
2:54:26
you and me, just the tip with JCB. And Sometimes,
2:54:31
I don't. Okay, I got a dynamite tip from one
2:54:34
of the producers. Ooh, producer tip. And I'd like to
2:54:37
get the producers in. Yes. Okay. Power Toys from Microsoft.
2:54:44
Our toys. Have you ever even heard of this? Uh,
2:54:49
power toys. What's- the website. Well, the website, I'm going
2:54:54
to tell you how people should find it the following
2:54:56
way. You go to Google. You type in Power Toys.
2:55:00
Power Toys from Microsoft. Otherwise, you have to type in
2:55:03
a URL that's ridiculous. I'm going to tell you what
2:55:05
it is. Learn.Microsoft.com slash EN. -us/windows/powertoys I think I have
2:55:18
seen this. This is funny. Yes. So it's a bunch
2:55:22
of utilities. Free. They're free. Free. Free. Mouse without borders.
2:55:28
Woo. Yeah. Including, yeah, advanced. advanced cut and paste, color
2:55:34
pickers, crop and lock. You know what this reminds me
2:55:37
of? This reminds me of the Mac days when you
2:55:39
could install extensions. And then your Mac would take an
2:55:43
hour to start up because all those extensions were loading.
2:55:48
Grab and move. Host file editor, that's a pretty good
2:55:55
idea to have. Image resizer, keyboard managing, this easy way
2:56:00
to remap a keyboard, this is the easiest way to
2:56:03
do it is use this utility. uh it comes in
2:56:06
handy light switch check this out people automatically switch between
2:56:10
light dark themes based on time of day. If you're...
2:56:15
Power toys run. There's a ton of stuff here. If
2:56:20
you're still using Windows, you deserve this. If you're still
2:56:24
using Windows, you deserve this. That's a pretty funny tip
2:56:29
of the day. Especially for those of us who use
2:56:31
Linux. I mean, I'm sorry. Yeah, well, you should use
2:56:34
Windows in some way, shape, or form. I don't. I
2:56:37
have no more Windows in my life. Really? None. None
2:56:40
whatsoever. Well, good for you. Good for you. I overwrote
2:56:44
every single drive that had Windows, and I put Omarchi
2:56:48
on it. I'm sorry, GNU Linux. I don't want to
2:56:51
get drunk. GNU Linux. GNU. Power tools. There you go.
2:56:58
A tip of the day. Power toys. Power toys. Power
2:57:02
toys. Power toys. Power toys. It's not the same as
2:57:05
a great wine, but it could help you in a
2:57:08
pinch. Our toys. Just the tip with JCB. and sometimes
2:57:17
Adam. And again, you stepped on Brunetti's, you're always stepping
2:57:24
on his credit. Has he not emailed you about this
2:57:26
yet? No, he's missed that. I don't think he listens
2:57:28
anymore. Um... So just an interesting non-tip. Somebody sent me
2:57:36
a picture. I don't know if this is real. I'd
2:57:37
like somebody to verify it. There's a big bucket of
2:57:41
wine that Costco is starting to sell, supposedly. A 10-liter
2:57:47
bucket of wine. Heh. of cabernet does it have a
2:57:51
spout I don't know, I just saw the bucket, you
2:57:55
know? Or do you use a ladle? I have no
2:57:58
idea. The whole thing is ludicrous. Uh, we're gonna do
2:58:03
a Costco run, so I'll take a look for myself.
2:58:07
That concludes our broadcast you got a full day's worth
2:58:11
for sure. End of show mixes from Just Baker and
2:58:15
Daryl Crillo. Thank you both very much for these end
2:58:20
of show mixes. Love them a lot. Love them a
2:58:23
lot. Lots of slop. Coming up next on the No
2:58:25
Agenda Stream, if you are listening there, noagendastream.com or the
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Modern Podcast. Planet Rage, and they are also a value
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2:58:42
so help them out, Planet Rage, Darren and Larry. Darren
2:58:45
and Laren. Darren and Larry. We promise we'll be back
2:58:52
on Sunday. Until then, coming to you from the heart
2:58:57
of the Texas Hill Country, glad to be back in
2:59:00
Fredericksburg, Texas. In the morning, everybody, I'm Adam Curry. And
2:59:04
from Northern, I'm sorry, from Refinery Row, where we can
2:59:07
handle the heavy crude, by the way, like most people.
2:59:11
Uh... Not just for heating oil. I'm John C. Dvorak.
2:59:15
We'll be back on Sunday. In the meantime, remember us
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at noagendadonations.com. Adios, mofos, a-hooey, hooey, and such. *music* Bye.
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