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I love Max Velocity. Larry Blytner. Darren O'Neill. It's Thursday,
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July 30th, 2026. This is your Gitmo Nation Media Assassination
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episode 1890. This is no agenda. And we're broadcasting live
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from just outside of Chirac, right here in the FEMA
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region number five in the morning, everybody. I am Darren
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O'Neill. And from the pretentious Connecticut shore, this is Larry
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Blytner, keeping commies and creeps at bay with my gleaming
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scimitar of truth. Ruth! It's Darren and Larry. In the
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morning. Yeah. That was weird. That was stimulating, especially those
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dropouts. Was that just on my end? I double clicked.
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That was the problem. Sometimes you single click, sometimes you
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double click. But when it's live, baby, it is live.
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It's live. So you get your single mistake out of
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the way. Now you'll be perfect for the rest of
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the show. Everything's going to be great. People are like,
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who are these guys? What is going on? We're not
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telling them anything. They have to ask us. It's a
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secret. I understand. This is the show must go on.
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This is the time. Thursdays and Sundays. Right now, no
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agenda happens no matter what. No matter what. And with
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the sad passing of John C. Dvorak, Adam Curry needs
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a couple of weeks off. And he asked the two
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kids that just wanted to go joyride the car if
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they wanted to do the show. I wasn't gonna say
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no. And you couldn't say no for me. I speak
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for myself. We've been doing a little show called Planet
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Rage for the last five years, five years at the
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end of August. Isn't that amazing? And we basically stole
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the whole no agenda vibe. We did a clip show.
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We was originally like no agenda. We were originally going
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to do like an hour show. Yeah. Keep it short.
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Just bring clips that made us mad. But that sounds
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awful when you say steal, because there was more. We
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kind of tumbled into it, Darren, right? It's an homage.
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Yeah, but I mean, you were doing this other show,
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right, with Sir Bemrose, and then you guys had a
2:14
falling out, or creative differences, as they say in Hollywood,
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right? And then you had the kindness and fortitude to
2:22
ask me if I wanted to fill in, but of
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course, I'm no Ben. Not even a little. And then
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you said, well, why don't we just do no agenda?
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Okay, let's do that. Right? Is that correct? Am I
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remembering correctly? It's like, here's the concept. It works. Yeah.
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We just added anger management issues to the joke that
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I've been going with for the last... Poorly managed. A
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couple of years. Because, I mean, normally we're a little
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saltier, but we don't have to be. No, we know
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this is more of a family audience, so we'll keep
2:52
it kind of in check. We'll try to warn you
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if there are any F-bombs coming up. And there's been
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some from politicians this week, which was kind of fun.
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Yes, there have. Isn't that fabulous? Yeah. But the world
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works in very strange ways. and the way Larry and
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I got together is no different. Oh, it's bizarre. Kicking
3:13
off. Well, Larry needed help with some audio gear and
3:17
I just happened to do a... video review of it
3:21
on Amazon and YouTube. I think you saw it on
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Amazon. I saw it on Amazon. It was about a
3:27
preamp. that I needed, and there was this guy. PBX,
3:32
you know, and it's 200 bucks, but 200 bucks is
3:34
200 bucks. And so there was this, this guy saying,
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you know, if you want to know more about this,
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just was like, email me or come over. How did
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that work? Was it through Amazon? I don't even remember.
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I don't know, but you, cause I had the reviews
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email address set up at the time. Cause that's when
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Amazon was letting you get free stuff to do reviews
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and all that. And Larry asked the question and rather
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than being a, you know, miscreant, I was like, no,
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I can answer. And you did. And it just kind
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of, Went from there. He's like, hey, I do this
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podcast. So I started checking out That Larry Show, thatlarryshow.com.
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And I was at that point, actually. not doing a
4:14
show at all and there was a buddy of mine
4:18
that wanted to do a show we had done a
4:20
few episodes but then that kind of went by the
4:24
wayside i had the Retina blowout, five retinal surgeries, lost
4:29
most of the vision in my right eye. So if
4:31
I'm slow at reading the notes... The left eye isn't
4:35
great either, floaters and that kind of stuff. And I
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can hear in my ear. The producer in the sky,
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John C. Dvorak, going, yeah, use the eye thing. It's
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good for donations. Come on. Yeah. Yeah. Plus, let's tell
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everybody you look like a pirate. I should wear the
4:51
eye patch. It would be a fashion accessory like the
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guy from the 80s that did that round and round
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song. There was that weird video. But I hadn't been
5:03
doing a show and Larry's the one that's like, dude,
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just do it solo-mento. Do a solo show. You know,
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like when Adam tells stories about you, I try to
5:11
do the low voice and it doesn't work, but... Well,
5:16
it's true. And because I guarantee you would never be
5:18
disappointed. A guest that didn't show. And have you been?
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No. Troop. So I started doing random thoughts. which I'm
5:28
still doing 370 whatever it is episodes into that. And
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that is a solo show, which is anybody that's done
5:35
one will tell you way harder than a show with
5:37
somebody else. Pretty much, yeah. So it kind of helped
5:41
me go through all of these things. And while I
5:45
was face down for, I'm forgetting even how many weeks
5:48
it was totally, but I'm remembering like 12 weeks because
5:52
it's normally just two or three, but then they had
5:55
to redo the surgery and redo the surgery. And it
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wasn't until I found a better surgeon that they finally
6:00
got the retina to stay up. But then the vision
6:02
was pretty much gone. While being face down 24 hours
6:06
a day, which also meant sleeping face down with your
6:09
head in a donut. I remember JCD reading my note
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when I made a donation right afterwards and was like,
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oh. Because, yeah, it's no fun. No, I can't be
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good. But I spent a lot of time... During those
6:22
weeks listening to podcasts, and I'd already been a semi-regular
6:28
No Agenda fan, but this kind of took it into...
6:32
full orbit which the oddest thing when you're kind of
6:35
like sleep deprived having those earphones in falling asleep face
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down with the podcast on I remember having multiple dreams
6:46
where it was like I was in the room with
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Adam and John. And it happened with the Tell Them
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Steve Get Dave guys as well who I was listening
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to that podcast too. Were you all clothed in this
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room? Yes. Yes, everybody was totally clothed. but it was
7:01
like I was a part of the conversation. And while
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I'm dreaming, I'm answering and arguing, but of course they
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can't hear me because it's a podcast and it's not
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live and I'm not really there. But that's how that
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all came to be. Random thoughts came to be. And
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then I went to Void Zero, the guy that keeps
7:20
everything running for the No Agenda show. And I'm like,
7:24
dude, I've got this podcast. I mean, how do I
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get it on the Mighty No Agenda stream? And he's
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like, go to Sir Benbrow's. And I'm like, oh, Jesus.
7:32
I mean, I didn't know Bembrose then, so I'm just
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remembering now I should have got that. All right. So
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that got added to the stream. Mark Von Dyke void
7:40
zeros was doing the music show before no agenda. And
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he started having his kids and his family. And he's
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like, you want to take over for a few weeks?
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Ah. In 700 and some odd episodes of the... The
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rock and roll pre-show later. Here we are. Here we
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are. And then you brought me into, you hit me
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in the mouth. Yeah. About Noah Jenner. And here's what
8:04
gets extra crazy. It was right at ground zero of
8:09
the scandemic. And here we are now back, and it's
8:14
sort of reared its head, its flaming head, with the
8:17
Fauci furor that's going on right now, which is really
8:20
kind of bizarre and providential, I think. It is a
8:24
very interesting look because we always figured we're going to
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get some kind of information on that. And there's plenty
8:29
of that to dissect here today. But we just wanted
8:33
to let everybody know who we are, why we're here.
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Adam needed a couple of weeks off. And I don't
8:42
know what's happening after that. I don't think Adam knows
8:45
what's happening after that as of yet. But the guy
8:48
needed a break. And if there's one thing we've noticed
8:53
with, any podcast when you take a week off even
8:57
when you try to run a best of or something
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like that people kind of tune out and they don't
9:03
really pay much attention and we were more than happy
9:08
to fill in because it seems very natural today adam's
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like why are you feeling them like it feels like
9:14
a regular show with way more clips and way more
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donations yeah That's kind of the aspect there. And so,
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yeah, when I went to you and said, hey, listen
9:24
to this, no agenda, you're like Adam Curry, the MTV
9:27
guy. So it's a very interesting thing because you were
9:31
definitely coming into this knowing Adam, but not knowing John
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C. Dvorak, where I knew Adam because I saw it
9:38
had Banger's Ball and all that on MTV. But I
9:41
was the guy with the computer at 12 years old
9:43
and playing with all this stuff in the 80s. So
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Dvorak was the thing that brought me in. I guess
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it all, uh... It all comes full circle, I suppose.
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It sure does. Very strange. And the universe works in
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very weird ways. It does. It's glorious. The only time
10:02
I'd ever spoken to this many people, and hello, Gitmo
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Nation, thank you for letting us come into your ears
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today. Yes, thank you one and all. Thank you, producers,
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which we plan to convert to plaintiffs. No, just kidding.
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Criminals, right. Exactly. The only time was I won a
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radio contest back in the day. to go in and
10:25
do these sports on the loop. FF98 for one segment.
10:29
So it was like 15 minutes. because the guy that
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normally did the sports was on vacation. The guy that
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I went in to do his show was the great
10:39
Jonathan Brandmeier, Johnny B. Johnny B. So when I tuned
10:43
in to No Agenda again around that time of the
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eye surgery, it's like I noticed that the, and I
10:49
don't know how far back it goes. But the voice
10:53
that you hear or have heard at the beginning of
10:56
every no agenda up until today. That said, it's Crackpot
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and Buzzkill! That's Johnny B. So it's like this was
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just a very weird full circle moment for me as
11:09
well. Because if it wasn't for Johnny B. I would
11:12
have never start playing with microphones and pretending I'm doing
11:15
radio shows and all of that. Oh, dude. When I
11:17
was like 10, 12, whatever he hit Chicago in high
11:21
school, it was slightly before. I would get up at
11:24
like five in the morning in the summertime just to
11:27
listen to Johnny's show on the loop because it was
11:29
hilarious. So he was your unknowing mentor. no doubt about
11:35
it. So when I heard his voice at the beginning
11:37
of every No Agenda, I'm like, huh. This is interesting.
11:41
Yeah. So the universe, I don't even try to figure
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out exactly why things happen at this point. I just
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go with them and say they happen for a reason.
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Well, it happened even again yesterday when we were doing
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Planet Rage. And for some reason I mentioned the robot
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from Lost in Space, Dr. Smith, and you kind of
12:05
chimed in on that. At the same time, Adam and
12:10
the preacher were discussing the same robot from the same
12:13
show. Pastor Jimmy released an episode called Danger Will Robinson,
12:17
and we were just doing the Danger Will Robinson bit.
12:20
Very strange. What are the odds? I don't know. And
12:23
I will say, my anxiety level on Sunday when the
12:29
announcement was made was not much. I figured I'm doing
12:32
a show. I'm used to talking. If there's one thing
12:34
I'm good at, it's talking. Monday came on, Adam's sending
12:39
me all the information that I need. He set up,
12:41
this guy is beyond a vibe coder. He has created
12:45
a podcasting system that he could probably have an exit
12:48
strategy and make a lot of money with. And he
12:51
was hooking me up with this. And I'm like, oh,
12:52
dude, this is awesome. This is great. I got to,
12:55
you know, get out of here. I got to go.
12:57
The wife's coming home for lunch and then I'm doing
12:59
Planet Rage. And it's like, great. The wife's walking in
13:02
the door. Her phone's going off with a tornado warning.
13:05
No big deal. That happens here all the time. by
13:08
like 20 to 1 20 minutes before planet rage would
13:12
have started it was darker than night and the storm
13:17
that hit here was of epic proportions 100 mile an
13:22
hour plus winds power went out which the anxiety level
13:26
went like way higher because the last time the power
13:29
went out at my parents house it was out for
13:31
four days and i'm like i don't have four days
13:34
And it took like 29, 30 hours. I think the
13:38
power was out. So, okay, that came back on. But
13:41
then... We missed a couple of planet rages. And I
13:44
said to Larry, I'm like. I mean, you don't think
13:46
Dvorak would send, like, tornadoes and stuff to try to
13:50
keep me from doing the show, would you? And Larry's
13:52
like, yeah, I do. I think he probably would. It's
13:57
all because... I trolled him with music and... Brenda Christensen,
14:03
I think her name was. If I'm messing that up,
14:05
I apologize. Did a really nice. obituary for the late
14:10
great John C. Dvorak where she mentioned one that he
14:13
hated ABBA with a passion. So the fact that I
14:16
played dancing queen for him one day, I knew I
14:18
hit. Oh. But she also said he had a mad
14:23
crush on Britney Spears. And I'm like, I could have
14:25
used this information. KCD gave me so much crap for
14:30
being a Taylor Swift fan. They had a mad crush
14:34
on Britney Spears? Like that is, I could have used
14:38
that information. That is good trolling information right there. Now
14:45
we know. You got the last laugh. I don't. That
14:48
was his plan all along, no doubt about it. Who
14:51
knows what'll fly out of the sky and bonk you
14:53
in the back of the head, Darren. I looked. I've
14:56
never been seen by any tornadoes. There was one. that
14:59
they po-
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The path of the tornado that hit. Two miles away.
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Oh my goodness, there were some of these storms that
16:50
I've seen on the Max Velocity channel. There was like
16:55
30, 40, 50 storm chasers all on the same storm.
16:58
I'm like, how can there be so many of you?
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And who pays them, Max Velocity or YouTube? Well, he
17:04
would pay some of them to be a part of
17:07
his network, but otherwise there's a lot. their own YouTube
17:10
channels. Wow. Think of a car, maybe an old Lexus,
17:20
you know, put some big panels on the outside. So
17:23
when you're driving through a tornado, you could not. doesn't
17:29
flip over. I mean, that was just some crazy damage
17:31
in the area. So we were totally blessed that the
17:35
house is still standing. The only problem we had was
17:38
the power going out. There were a lot of people
17:40
not so lucky, very close to here. Appleton, Wisconsin. Just
17:46
absolutely. But now that everybody knows who we are, let's
17:54
get to the Anthony Fauci bit. Okay. Fauci is an
17:59
interesting character, and I understand why they're going after him.
18:05
Well, sure. But you know, I mean, it's all politics
18:11
at this point. It's not going to go anywhere. I
18:14
mean, it's meaning... community. turn on stage, resigning the light,
18:25
the lines he chose. Now he's on the other side
18:28
and it's, you know, it's all these and, and, and.
18:32
to wax poetic. What struck me about this is, if
18:39
you think, you've got two and a half centuries. of
18:44
legislative frivolity going on here. And that entire time, I
18:47
think this is the absolute zenith of comedy in American
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government. Nothing. He took the Fifth Amendment. So this is
19:04
even better. Yeah. Dr. Anthony Fauci invoked the Fifth Amendment
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111 times. Once hailed as the nation's savior, got pummeled
19:13
today as he pleaded the fifth a grand total of
19:16
111 times. Obviously, he invoked. I met Ryan. not once,
19:26
but 111 times. Yeah, more than 70 times pleading the
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Fifth. More than 70 times he invoked his right under
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the Fifth Amendment to the Constitution. them up and gave
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111 every time they announced it but that was cnn
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then CNN says, oh, over 70. What do you mean?
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right? Simply. It shows you why the... A lot of
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what came out of was fairly interesting. One of the
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things that was new to me in his diary was
20:26
his admission that he got a pulmonary infarction. very highly
20:41
publicized press conference. They showed people that were safe. one
20:46
of the primary most expected adverse events Potentially deadly blood
20:53
clots in his lung, mitocardial infarction. He kept that secret
20:57
from the American. Yeah, well, I think a lot of
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the left doesn't want to. clown that he is. you
22:28
know, with flashing lights. The evil buffoon. Yes. And, you
22:43
know, we're hearing about this, but there's, unfortunately, there's very
22:45
little audio. There was a thing of Julia Roberts with
22:48
him. I'm sure a lot of people saw a clip
22:50
of that. But it's what Fauci said to himself about
22:55
all this that I think is so fascinating. very brief
23:00
entries that I plucked out from, I think it was
23:03
like an 1100 page PDF. It was, it was a
23:05
huge document, all this crap that, uh, that I think
23:09
that people might enjoy hearing. I don't know. Yeah. Right.
23:12
Why not? I would think this is the inner look
23:15
at to what this guy was thinking, which the over
23:21
seems the overall. Seems to be that he was way
23:24
more in. The being America's doctor rather. right? Had a
23:39
wonderful Instagram. She was absolutely fabulous. She embarrassed me somewhat
23:47
when I... Boom. She put her hands in front of
23:52
a mountain and said, oh my God, it's Dr. Fauci.
23:55
He is here. And she went on to say that
23:58
I was her personal hero. she was to have this
24:01
conversation with me. Great experience. And February 23rd, 2021. Had
24:08
a great call with Barbra Streisand. She called my cell
24:12
at 6:05 p.m. She has recently had plaster lesion on
24:16
her buttock. This is in his diary? This is in
24:21
his diary. Did people only shoot one side of her
24:28
face? photographs. And now Fauci's ratted her out that she's
24:32
got a lesion on her arm. So Saffatchi goes on
24:40
to say, she has post-sostum neuralgia down her leg, but
24:43
the primary... has healed she wanted to know if it
24:47
was okay to get them an ra vaccine i told
24:49
her yes we then stared we went and started discussing
24:55
life in general i told her that i worked listening
24:58
to her Alexa. She really did not know what Alexa
25:02
was. I accidentally butt dialed her later in the evening
25:06
and she said, me anyways. I wanted to know if
25:10
there was any difference between the Moderna and Pfizer product.
25:13
I told her none. I then explained to her more
25:16
about Alexa. I brought the phone over to Alexa and
25:21
asked it to play song. Bombers dry sand. When the
25:26
song came on loud and clear, she started laughing and
25:29
absolutely loved it. Wow. How about that? Verbatim. I'm not...
25:37
This is right out of his diary. And here's this
25:41
one. extraordinary and memorable evening last night at the Kennedy
25:50
Center, Joan Baez invited me to court on the occasion
25:57
of her receiving the Kennedy Center medallion. Finally, I got
26:01
to meet her in person. After the year-long building up
26:04
of our friendship via texts and phone calls, she is
26:08
absolutely amazing, warm, an endearing person, and our friendship was
26:13
cemented last night as it became clear. were, as I
26:17
said, meant for each other. by the attention. paid to
26:25
me by all the celebrities who much they were appreciative
26:32
of what I'd been doing. A typical example was Garth
26:36
Brooks' wife, Trisha Yearwood, who was just meet me. The
26:41
same was true for many other people. Debbie Allen and
26:45
Broadway legend Chita Rivera as well as Dick Van Dyke.
26:49
I got to escort Joan up to the stage to
26:52
receive her award and I sat with her as she
26:54
waited to go on the stage. After the ceremony, we
26:58
all went outside. It was a spectacular evening. He seems
27:05
very verbose for a guy who wouldn't answer any questions.
27:10
Word for word, baby. I mean, this guy's got some
27:12
serious kinks in his head. Why was he even writing
27:15
this down during the pandemic? I mean, why is he
27:19
writing this to himself? I mean, he knows what happened.
27:22
I mean, holy shit. And this was obviously, why was
27:26
this? they apparently this wasn't handwritten in some journal this
27:35
was you know perhaps I don't know, but obviously, It's
27:50
been very clear that he thinks Anthony Fauci is a
27:55
criminal. The Biden pardon, which was probably signed by the
28:01
auto pen, seems to give him immunity, which. Eddie, because
28:12
they couldn't legally hold him responsible. The only way he
28:21
was going to get himself in trouble was if they
28:25
could then prove he lied in his answers, which. you
28:37
This session which I was watching and it was kind
28:40
of It was also kind of sad. Thank you, Mr.
28:45
Chairman. like taking the fifth, huh, Doc? Let's try something.
28:52
What day of the week is it today? you On
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the advice of counsel, I respectfully decline to answer based
29:02
upon my rights under the fifth... On the advice of
29:09
counsel. I respectfully decline to answer based upon my rights
29:13
under the Fifth Amendment to the Constitution. What color's the
29:15
carpet in front of you? Good questions. Yeah. On the
29:20
advice of counsel, I respectfully decline to answer. you there's
29:29
a public servant now interestingly enough that you brought this
29:32
up remember at that hearing he had according to rand
29:35
paul there were six attorneys accompanying him right five sitting
29:40
behind him and then one next to him who got
29:42
thrown out because he couldn't keep his mouth shut which
29:44
was very funny but you know there's always And this
29:49
is the woman on CNN that said there were 112
29:52
uses of the
30:00
And he thinks Fauci did himself a tremendous disservice. taking
30:06
the fifth and you can hear him blather in Fauci
30:10
number two. Law prof says Fauci goofed. Yeah, and I
30:13
don't know how you wouldn't because... It is... What everybody
30:20
just assumed, it's like when you hear mobsters, oh, we're
30:22
taking the fifth. Well, it's because you have to be
30:23
a criminal. Yeah. for the pardon in all likelihood. He's
30:57
pardoned for all actions before January 2025. But that also
31:01
means that you're forced to testify. That's how prosecutors use
31:03
immunity or pardons. And they say, now you're forced to
31:07
testify because you don't have any criminal liability, what we're
31:10
going to ask you about. So then to plead the
31:12
fifth is actually, he could then be held in contempt.
31:15
There could be, theoretically at least, a Justice Department that
31:18
goes after him for not answering when he is not
31:21
really facing that criminal charge. Yeah, and also when the
31:23
reason put out is perjury traps, then of course, again,
31:25
to the layperson, it's saying, well, why wouldn't you just
31:27
say the truth? What would be the problem in that?
31:30
So, you know, I understand that's a layperson thing, but
31:32
it doesn't sound good. That doesn't sound good. But I'll
31:35
say this. Like I said, this is the biggest comedic
31:39
event in the history of the United States government. No
31:42
question about it. And Fauci, I think he's missing a
31:46
huge opportunity because had he played that correctly and not
31:51
listened to his attorneys, he would be getting a residency
31:57
at Caesar's Palace and they'd come to him with a
31:59
blank goddamn check. Whatever you say, Tony, fill in the
32:03
number yourself. guy, okay? He could have launched himself past
32:08
the likes of Kinison and Carlin, really. And here's how.
32:14
Fauci number three, this is what Fauci should have said
32:17
to Josh Hawley when he was trying to rattle him.
32:20
Yeah, we got his clip too, because it's very interesting,
32:25
back and forth, because you knew the game that was
32:27
being played. Yeah, it's a different version. Well, nothing says
32:31
honesty like taking the fifth, huh, Doc? Let's try something.
32:36
What day of the week is it today? Thursday. I
32:39
know that because it was always a Thursday when I
32:41
met your mother at the Holiday Inn. What color tie
32:43
are you wearing? What color is your tie? Looks like
32:46
puke. What color is the carpet in front of you?
32:48
Brown. Like the skid marks in your BVDs. Okay. Very
32:55
realistic Fauci. Huh? It's a very realistic Fauci. Yeah. If
32:59
Fauci had done that, he'd be the biggest star on
33:01
the planet right now. But he didn't do bad. Well,
33:05
and he wouldn't have walked himself into any perjury traps
33:09
and. When you constantly take the fifth, you look guilty.
33:14
When they know that they can't prosecute him for anything,
33:19
really the only thing... the Republicans have going after him.
33:26
is to do what they can to destroy his public
33:29
image. And I think they did a pretty good job
33:31
of that. Oh, yeah. Because he sat there and just
33:35
was like, I don't know. And again, the question is...
33:42
Can they really do anything because of the privilege which...
33:46
Things change. You can take the fifth to not incriminate
33:49
yourself so you don't go to jail. But once you've
33:51
gotten immunity. It's a little different. Let's just get one
33:56
thing straight. You don't have any rights under the Fifth
33:58
Amendment because you've been pardoned, as you very well know,
34:01
as the Supreme Court has been clear for a century
34:03
and more. Brown versus Walker, 1896. When he has been
34:07
pardoned, he may not stand upon his privilege. You know
34:11
that. Your lawyer is sitting behind you now shifting nervously
34:14
in their chairs. They know it. This isn't about the
34:16
Constitution. This isn't about the law. This is about contempt.
34:19
Contempt for this body and contempt for the American people.
34:23
But I think I know why you're doing it. It's
34:25
because you don't want to answer questions. It's because you
34:30
did all kinds of terrible things. It's because during the
34:32
pandemic, you got rich, didn't you? You got rich while
34:37
people were dying, hundreds of thousands of Americans, over a
34:40
million in the end, and you were getting rich. And
34:42
not only were you doing that, you were using federal
34:45
employees with taxpayer money to apply for and solicit cash
34:50
prizes for you personally. Cash prizes totaling over a million
34:56
dollars. during the pandemic, didn't you? That's a question. I
35:03
love that line. Yeah, because Fauci was like, well, is
35:06
that rhetorical? Do you want me to answer? And this
35:09
was something that I did not know going into this,
35:13
which again, this is. the route the Republicans took at
35:17
this point because he wasn't going to answer you, get
35:19
as much information out there. as you can. And the
35:23
fact that they had the information, and it wasn't just
35:28
what Josh Hawley said here, which is you made a
35:32
lot of money on this. They had, as the kids
35:35
say, the receipts. They said you had this one of
35:38
your staffers doing this, going after this prize, this one
35:42
of your staffers doing this, this doing this, talking about
35:46
the amount of money that he wasn't. This wasn't just
35:49
like Johns Hopkins or somebody's, like, hey, Dr. Fauci, you're
35:53
doing so good. Here's a bunch of money. He was
35:56
literally using his minions who were getting paid by the
36:00
federal government to go out and be like, hey, hey,
36:04
don't you think Fauci should get that award? Hey, don't
36:06
you think Fauci should get that money? Sure. He's harvesting
36:10
votes. And that is such a big difference where it's
36:13
like you're out there, one. You're loving being the center
36:19
of attention. which I guess maybe he hadn't really had
36:23
that recently. I know he was big during the AIDS
36:27
epidemic. And it's very interesting when you see the leftist
36:31
media, which is pretty much all of it. fawn over
36:35
what he did during the AIDS crisis. And then you
36:37
hear what actually happened. It's fascinating. I saw it. I
36:42
didn't take it, but there was a clip of the
36:44
10 Mile Zone guy. What's his name? Yeah, the lead
36:48
guy, the founder of that. And he did about three
36:51
minutes just extolling the virtues of Tony Fauci. And he
36:55
actually went into, you know, I was there when friends
36:58
of mine were saved by Fauci. And there's a big
37:03
difference of opinion in that. And there was a guy
37:06
at that time, his name was Larry Kramer, a gay
37:09
guy, very, very vocal spokesman for the gay movement. And
37:13
he basically, he wanted Fauci executed back then, you know.
37:18
So it's interesting to hear these people. step up to
37:22
bat for this guy really is well it's the dimension
37:25
a dimension b effect because the people that are on
37:28
the left are going to tell you Fauci did nothing
37:33
wrong. He has to take the fifth because the Republicans
37:38
are trying to do a gotcha game on him. And
37:42
then you have the people on the right who seem
37:45
to have... the evidence to back up what they're saying,
37:49
the, this, the Bernie Moreno clip here, this was one
37:56
of my favorite because. After you have taken the fifth
38:00
as Fauci did so many times. I did not see
38:03
this question come either. This one was beautiful in so
38:07
many different ways. which was, well. Do you know what
38:11
the Fifth Amendment says and who wrote it? I echo
38:15
Senator Johnson's comments about your opening statement, Mr. Chairman. I
38:19
think it was dead on. Very, very well done. Mr.
38:22
Fauci, do you know who David Shurtler is? On the
38:28
advice of counsel, I respectfully decline to answer based upon
38:31
my rights under the Fifth Amendment to the Constitution. Fifth
38:37
Amendment of the Constitution. What does the Fifth Amendment of
38:40
the Constitution say? eyes. silence as Fauci is like going
38:47
back to his lawyers. On the advice of counsel, I
38:51
respectfully decline to answer based upon my rights under the
38:54
Fifth Amendment of the Constitution. No, I'm just asking you
38:57
what it says. On the advice of counsel, I respectfully
39:01
decline to answer based upon my rights under the Fifth
39:04
Amendment to the Constitution. I'm going to give the Constitution
39:08
to my aide. He'll bring it over to you so
39:09
you can have it for future reference. I think it's
39:12
something that every American should know what the Constitution says.
39:15
Do you know who wrote the Fifth Amendment? On the
39:18
advice of counsel, I respectfully decline to answer based upon
39:21
my rights on the Fifth Amendment of the Constitution. So
39:24
you're invoking a right that you don't know who wrote
39:26
it or what it says. Is that correct? Yes. Which?
39:32
Very weird. Very weird times. Somebody has to come up
39:36
with some kind of a musical audio mix of the
39:43
encyclopedia for 2026. And it's people asking all the mysterious,
39:47
you know, solve the mystery of the Holy Trinity. Is
39:51
there a God? And then every answer is Fauci reciting
39:55
that line. Yeah, and Fox put this together. I think
39:59
Fox has been listening. What do you want to bet
40:59
that very soon, maybe right now, people are being pulled
41:02
over on the side of the road for traffic infractions
41:04
when the cop says, license is registration, they're reciting the
41:08
Fifth Amendment. I guarantee that's going to happen. I mean,
41:11
you want to know your rights. There's no question about
41:14
that, but... It'll be fun to see where that goes,
41:19
if there is any kind of legal repercussion. I mean,
41:22
we know the Republicans are going to try to get
41:25
it. I doubt they're going to get anything. But if
41:29
you have been pardoned and the law says, well, then
41:32
if you're called before. Congress you are compa- you know
41:37
compelled to answer then... You would be compelled to answer.
41:44
He looked terrified. And I was also thinking, the guy's
41:46
85 years old. As Bobby the K told us, he
41:49
had a pulmonary infarction. Right. That's no joke. And, you
41:53
know, he's an old guy. And I thought he could
41:57
just kind of wink out right there at the desk.
42:01
And then would Josh Hawley be charged with negligent homicide?
42:06
According to the Democrats, yes. Of course, yeah. I just
42:11
don't understand because there seems, if this is a personal
42:13
dialogue, We have to assume that what the man wrote
42:17
in it is legitimate and true. And if there are
42:22
things in there that cause people to question the way
42:25
he handled. the COVID thing, well... That's important because it
42:31
did have an effect on everybody in the country and
42:35
beyond. Oh, yeah. So many businesses got screwed. So many
42:40
people couldn't go to church. I mean, that was the
42:42
one that still sticks out of, I don't remember where
42:45
it was, but the people having church outside, standing six
42:48
feet apart, and still that being broken up because you
42:51
know the science. How many military guys got canned from
42:57
the service because they wouldn't take the vax and kids
43:00
thrown out of schools? And it was just the reverberations
43:04
of this were incredible, not to mention all the ones
43:06
that also had pulmonary infarctions and seizures and so on.
43:09
It was unbelievable. He is an evil little prick. I'll
43:12
say that. He is. No, he's the science, Larry. Oh,
43:16
that's, excuse me. He is the, oh yeah. And for
43:19
me, again, the soliciting money, part is the, I mean,
43:27
it really is a you know, Dr. Evil right out
43:31
of a bad comedy movie that's, you know. Hard to
43:36
believe. And again, as a guy who was... quite up
43:41
there in age even at the time it's like why
43:43
are you soliciting money for what you've already made a
43:46
lot of money in your life as far as i
43:49
know he's made a lot of money off the aids
43:51
the drugs and things that have come out there's a
43:54
lot of these things you get a percent even if
43:56
you're a public employee which is very weird Yeah, I'd
44:00
love to know because, you know, you go online and
44:03
say, you know, what's so-and-so's net worth? It might be
44:06
off by 2,000%. You know, you never know. I saw
44:09
one that said he was somewhere between $8 and $11
44:11
million, which sounds low because I can remember people saying
44:15
that he maybe had or was a party to something
44:19
like 100 different medical patents. Yeah, I would think that
44:21
would be very lucrative, but, you know, I'd like to
44:24
know. I don't know, but it'd be fascinating. And I
44:26
was quite interested that they could only, track. I think
44:30
it was 600. thousand somebody i thought that maybe 600
44:34
million to uh the Wuhan labs, which again, Fauci denied
44:41
that at first. There was a lot of things that...
44:44
Wait a minute, you're telling me that's the amount of
44:46
money that Fauci had piped into that lab? Correct. 600
44:49
mil? I mean, I think somebody said 600,000, so I
44:54
may be misremembering. So don't quote me on that. Unlike
44:57
the mainstream media, when I don't know something, I'll be
44:59
like...
45:00
You know, I heard something, but it may be wrong.
45:01
We're doing a live show. The numbers can be jumbled
45:06
up at times. But either way, they originally said no
45:09
money went there. Oh, yeah. They wanted to hide where
45:13
it came from. And again, this could have been the
45:15
time. And I don't know if I believe. Rand Paul,
45:20
who said, paraphrasing, you know, hey, if you would have
45:23
just apologized, if you would have just admitted that, you
45:25
know, you were in over your skis. I know you
45:27
hate that. So I said that. Thank you. We could
45:31
have a Dave Ramsey clip now, too. We could have
45:33
just gone our merry way. And Fauci couldn't have been,
45:38
as long as he told the truth. I don't know
45:41
how they were going to legally get him after the
45:45
immunity that he has. But he doesn't even want to
45:49
take responsibility for the things. that he's been. outed for.
45:55
Yeah. And that's just kind of sad. And the Republicans,
45:59
all they have again is to take his reputation. and
46:04
do what they can to ruin his legacy. And I
46:08
think they did all right. But again, half the media
46:11
is going to report to you that the Republicans are
46:13
big, bad people and don't pay any attention to what
46:16
this guy wrote in his diary. Yes, that's correct. Now,
46:21
do you have anything else on Fauci? I mean, I
46:22
think we actually got more coverage there than you actually
46:25
got from Fauci during the hours that he sat there
46:29
repeating the same. Why can't we make a living just
46:32
reciting the same paragraph over and over again? It's going
46:35
to be fun. Yeah, it'll be an easy layup. Speaking
46:40
of layup, this is just a little amuse-bouche for the
46:46
left again. This was a story that hit the Seattle
46:50
Storm owner who's in the WNBA. I know everybody in
46:53
no agenda world loves sports ball. But Sophie Cunningham, as
46:58
we've talked about before, you know, a very pointy chick
47:01
who decided that, one, it was okay to talk about
47:07
being religious, which when it comes to being in the
47:10
WNBA. Man, that's bad. That's bad. And has talked about
47:15
the fact that she doesn't think it's right that somebody
47:18
that is biologically born a male should be able to
47:23
play against girls in sports. It seems... normal to anybody
47:30
that can think and understand why Bob Costas We had
47:34
a clip over on Planet Rage at one point. Bob
47:36
Costas saying, well, there's a reason why. You have a
47:41
male who was 450th in the swimming rankings as a
47:45
guy going into the female rankings and going right to
47:48
the top. But we've never had the opposite. No, and
47:52
there's a reason why Sugar Ray Leonard never fought Mike
47:55
Tyson. It's a thing called weight class, and size matters.
47:58
Yes, it does. And... So these two 16 year old
48:02
girls were wearing t-shirts from an organization that wants only
48:08
females in female sports. Crazy stuff. Imagine that. The nerve.
48:13
And they were rooting for both teams. And they had
48:17
signs that they love Sophie Cunningham. And. An old woman
48:22
came up and yelled at them so much that it
48:26
made them cry. And that woman was the owner of
48:30
the Seattle Storm where they were in the... So this
48:33
is them, just a brief clip. Okay. We were just
48:37
sitting there with our signs that said, like, we love
48:39
Sophie, like, thank you Sophie for speaking up. And so
48:42
we were holding on, just watching the game again. We
48:44
were being super great. We hadn't said anything to anyone
48:46
else. We were being super respectful. We were just holding
48:48
our signs and cheering for both teams. And this lady,
48:51
older lady, comes up to us. And she comes up
48:53
to us, and at first I think she's going to
48:55
be nice. And then she asks, like, What are you
48:57
guys doing? Something like that. And then it was like...
49:00
Jesus loves everyone. That's what she told us. And I
49:02
was like, oh, I know. Like, I'm really just like,
49:04
I know. I know. Yeah. And she's like, I hope
49:08
Jesus can forgive you for what sin you've done. And
49:10
like something like that. And then she told us that
49:12
we were effing insane. And she went like this. Yeah.
49:16
Wait, wait, wait. Stop. Did she say she told us
49:19
we were effing insane? Yes. I love that. There you
49:24
go. That's classic. You know, this is you want to
49:27
invoke the name of the Lord and then tell somebody
49:31
that. We hope they can forgive you and you're effing
49:35
insane. There you go. That's perfect. And these are 16-year-old
49:39
girls. I mean, the video of their interview, it's obvious
49:42
that they are high school girls. They are not, you
49:45
know, adults. So this old lady, this battle axe that
49:49
owns the Seattle Storm, thought it was important enough to
49:52
go. and lambast these girls. It's like, what world are
49:57
we living in for saying, hey, I don't think boys
50:00
should play in girls sports. Well, I'm going to raise
50:03
a beef here that I've had for decades, Darren. And
50:07
it just bugs me, like getting over your skis. And
50:11
the fact is these young girls said, this lady came
50:14
over to us and spoke. You called her a lady.
50:17
And no, a lady is a woman who's kind of
50:21
classy and genteel. A woman is just a woman. This
50:25
is just a female. And clearly this woman, this cranky
50:29
bag, was no lady. No lady whatsoever. And people, the
50:34
other way they do this, there was a hell of
50:36
a, oh my God, it was a front page crime
50:39
case probably six or eight years ago somewhere in upstate
50:42
New York. A couple of dirtbags escaped some prison and
50:47
went on a rampage. And it was like unbelievable. They
50:50
beheaded people. They burned them alive. It was just, it
50:52
was horrific, horrific story. And the head cop that chased
50:58
these guys down and found them gave like a three-minute
51:01
statement on his journey bringing them to justice. And every
51:06
ninth word he had to describe these two turds was
51:11
these gentlemen. Right? These gentlemen beheaded the man. Then these
51:16
gentlemen burned the other person's eyes out. These gentlemen. God,
51:21
everybody, stop doing that. Man is a man, not necessarily
51:24
a gentleman. Same thing for ladies and women. And I'm
51:27
just going to do a Dvorak-type call-out and ask you,
51:30
was it Henny Youngman that did the old, that's not
51:32
my lady, that's my wife, was that the line? Henny
51:35
used to say, take my wife, please. But I don't
51:38
remember the lady thing with Hen. That might have been,
51:40
I don't know, I missed that one. I'm only 55,
51:44
I swear I shouldn't know Henny Youngman, but I watch
51:48
way too much old TV and listen to old radio
51:51
shows, I guess. Well, that's the best stuff. Yeah, Dobie
51:54
Gillis. I love Dobie Gillis, man. I never saw one
51:58
second of Dobie Gillis. In fact, it took me until
52:01
Gilligan's Island to discover who he was, but I never
52:04
saw that. Bob Denver, yeah. Bob Denver, Gilligan. Bob Denver
52:07
wearing a bucket hat. Don't ever wear a bucket hat.
52:09
Never ever. The skipper had a cool lid, and the
52:11
skipper was cool. Gilligan was an idiot because he wore
52:14
a bucket hat. It's that simple. That's the look. You
52:17
see a lot of bucket hats on people in, like,
52:19
Portland and that area. Why is that? I don't know.
52:22
That's true. Adelaide. The Memrose. Solve the mystery of the
52:26
bucket hat, please. Why so many bucket hats? What's the
52:29
point? I don't know. Then there's bucket head. He took
52:32
it to another level, didn't he? True, but that was
52:34
like a KFC thing he put on. He plays really
52:38
good guitar. He's really damn good. That's the beauty of
52:42
it. You just have a shtick, but if you could
52:44
also back it up. Yes. Now a guy that's been
52:48
backing it up is Elon Musk. Oh, right. I like
52:51
Elon. As we kind of move into the AI category
52:55
because AI is everywhere. There's a lot of misunderstanding about
53:00
AI and I think what Elon is. Putting out here,
53:05
this is from The Economist in an interview. I don't
53:10
think he is absolutely correct in what he says, but
53:15
we'll let him say it. We'll tell him he's wrong
53:17
if he's wrong. Yes. I think. AI may exceed the
53:21
sum of human intelligence. Right? There's the wrong buzzer. But
53:29
what is intelligence? In about, in around five years. In
53:35
five years? Roughly five years is my guess. um So
53:42
There really won't be anything that AI... can't do better
53:45
than humans, apart from being human, perhaps. In a more
53:48
prosaic level, what will life be like? The most likely
53:54
outcome is an age of amazing abundance where Anyone can
54:03
have anything they can think of. This may sound preposterous,
54:07
but... Well, here we are in 2026. Let's see where
54:12
we stand in 2036. Now, of course, there are things
54:14
that could... derail this like a massive global thermonuclear war
54:19
or something like that. Just something very small like global
54:23
thermonuclear war. Some trifle like that. Hey, Elon, back off
54:26
the ketamine, baby. Really. That's a, yeah, that's a slight
54:29
thing happening if you have the nuclear war and the
54:32
whole, oh, you can. be better at everything except being
54:37
human no because they still can't. think yeah well you
54:43
know continue i'm sorry but assuming that there's not world
54:47
war three I think I think we're headed for an
54:51
age of amazing abundance. So this is, I guess, a
54:54
message of optimism. and excitement about the future. You're sure
55:00
that humans will no longer be in control in 10
55:03
years time? I think it is unlikely. In the same
55:07
way that if you had a vastly... more like, you
55:13
know. Bleh. Like if the difference in intelligence between AI
55:21
and humans is vastly greater than the difference in intelligence
55:24
between AI and chimpanzees, it's hard to imagine that the
55:28
chimpanzees would be in charge. I'm really struck by this.
55:32
They are right now. Right. And we are essentially an
55:34
evolved form of chimpanzee. So it wasn't that long ago
55:39
that we were swinging through the trees, eating bananas in
55:43
the jungle. And we still eat bananas. What? Okay, Elon.
55:49
So, okay, Elon, yeah. Well, I say this about that,
55:52
about Elon, about that, Darren. There's no doubting the guy's
55:56
a brilliant dude, unquestioned. You can't, you know, that's a
56:00
stone fact. And I think people overlook he's also a
56:04
hell of a salesman. His business career would never have
56:07
got to the point it is now were he not.
56:10
And I witnessed that when he rolled out the first
56:13
debut of the Cybertruck. I don't know if you saw
56:16
this, but it was a big, big place, whatever the
56:19
hell this arena was where he introduced this truck. And
56:23
they rolled it out on stage, and then he gave
56:24
a little rap about it, about this and that, and
56:26
it's, you know, it's harder steel, faster, cooler, stronger, whatever.
56:29
And he also mentioned, I believe that he said it
56:32
had bulletproof glass. And to prove his point... He was
56:36
hefting what looked like a ball bearing, but the size
56:39
of a softball. And he whipped it at the passenger
56:43
window with all his might and shattered it. Oops. Oops.
56:49
You know, and, you know, a lesser salesman would have
56:52
just crawled under the truck, you know, but he kind
56:55
of turned around and laughed and said something. Well, we'll
56:56
have to work on it a little bit. You know,
56:58
and people roared. They loved him. And I suspect some
57:01
of those sales. these techniques are coming out in this,
57:04
this, what you just played, you know? Yes. AI at
57:09
a certain level is a parlor trick. It is dependent
57:15
on the data that it has going in. If it's
57:18
learning. about a subject. and it's getting that information from
57:24
X or from Reddit, well... then it's going to give
57:29
you some very inaccurate. answers because it cannot actually think.
57:37
That is the one thing that a lot of people
57:40
still will not wrap their brain around, which is the
57:44
AI cannot think. Now, it can do a certain amount
57:48
of problem solving. but it doesn't understand the world around
57:55
it or why things happen. One of the best examples
57:59
of this was a winning piece of AI art for
58:03
No Agenda a few episodes back. I didn't do it,
58:06
sadly. But it was of a glass office door. That
58:11
said, no agenda. We take AI tokens. And... I wanted
58:17
to make that into a video using Grok, which is
58:19
one of the better video models out right now. May
58:22
not be quite C-dance, but it's pretty good. And I'm
58:26
like, well, we want the pointy girl to come open
58:30
the door, walk out and say whatever it was. And
58:35
I tried. Five to seven times. And most of the
58:41
time. She reached through the glass to open the handle
58:46
that you could see on the front, which was the
58:49
perspective you had. It didn't understand that while human hands
58:54
shouldn't be able to just go through that glass to
58:56
open it. Right. And then the wrong side of the
58:59
door was opening. There are so many things that will
59:02
show you. If you work with AI, which is why
59:05
I recommend people do work with AI to understand what
59:08
it can and can't do. for coding, oh, it does
59:13
great because it has so much information. It has so
59:15
much data. And if you give it good data. Well,
59:19
when you type in, hey, I want a username and
59:23
password thing so people can log in, it knows how
59:25
to do that. But it's confused by a woman putting
59:30
her hand through a glass panel to open the door
59:33
on the other side of where she's standing. Yes. It's
59:37
like AI is not magic. No, it's not. You know,
59:42
I think... Have you seen the film Forbidden Planet? Not
59:47
recently. Oh, okay. So you know it, though. That was
59:50
really the Rosetta Stone for all science fiction since it
59:55
came out, probably, I don't know, 1950, early 50s sometime.
59:59
And that's really.
1:00:00
It was an AI story, really, before somebody had coined
1:00:02
the phrase. Walter Pigeon and the very pointy Anne Francis.
1:00:07
The uniforms were ripped off blatantly by Star Trek, sort
1:00:10
of ray guns. I mean, it was incredible. I mean,
1:00:12
they just set the bar for all of it. And
1:00:15
it ended badly. That's what I'll tell you. I don't
1:00:17
want to be a spoiler. Or a movie from the
1:00:19
50s. It didn't work out real well, AI. It just
1:00:22
didn't, you know. Well, the fact that he's telling us
1:00:26
this is going to be in five years, you Some
1:00:31
massive leaps. Yeah. And I also want to understand why
1:00:37
this is okay for the planet and the amount of
1:00:40
electricity. It's like I'm kind of in a third world
1:00:43
country in Illinois now when the storms come through. What
1:00:46
do you mean kind of? I know. I totally am.
1:00:48
And I've got it. Like you escaped from California. You
1:00:51
were smart. Well, thank you. But I've got to escape
1:00:55
from Illinois at some point as well. You shall. Since
1:00:59
these devices can't actually think yet, the fact that Elon
1:01:03
thinks they're going to be running things, how? Whose playbook
1:01:08
is the government of the AI bots going to go
1:01:12
to? Are they going to go to the Constitution of
1:01:15
the United States or are they going to go to,
1:01:17
you know, Marx? Or Lennon. But Elon, I mean, I
1:01:21
get it. He is a dreamer. And he says there
1:01:26
is the killer robot risk. So, uh, no, sure. Skynet,
1:01:30
baby. Yes. There's a 10 to 20% chance of killer
1:01:33
robots wiping out humanity. Yeah. So you sounded worried then.
1:01:37
Now you seem very relaxed about it. Have you? Yeah.
1:01:39
I mean, you would think of that. That's a pretty
1:01:41
high number. It is a high number. I don't like
1:01:43
those odds. A 10 to 20% that, no, just, I
1:01:46
mean, it might just be killer robots. I mean, if
1:01:48
once they build the robot bodies and then put the
1:01:52
AIs into them, I mean, sure. They may just try
1:01:55
to kill humanity. Let's check Polymarket for these predictions, Darren.
1:02:00
Rich! Oh, by the way, I told you about Fauci.
1:02:02
When he first broke, it was like 50%. Now it's
1:02:04
like 12%. I think he'll be convicted. It's nothing going
1:02:07
to happen. Well, no, because he's just taking the... What
1:02:10
are you going to convict him on? He's got a
1:02:12
pardon for everything. Prior to now. So you have to
1:02:18
understand how the legal system works. The only way they
1:02:20
were going to catch him on something is if he
1:02:22
decided to spill his guts and then they can prove
1:02:26
that he lied. But there's no way he's not a
1:02:29
dumb man. No, he's not. So when you know all
1:02:33
that information in your diary is out there. Well, if
1:02:37
you lie, you're just an idiot. if it can be
1:02:40
proven that, you know, no, just don't say anything at
1:02:43
all. I get it. Now you seem very relaxed about
1:02:47
it. Have you changed your view? I still think there's
1:02:50
risk. associated with AI and robots. It's not zero. I
1:02:55
guess I've come to... My sort of philosophical conclusion is
1:03:01
to look on the bright side. Um... I can't see
1:03:06
any way to really stop this incredible momentum of AI
1:03:11
and robots. And at times I sort of think, well,
1:03:15
perhaps, you know, even if there was a stop button,
1:03:18
we probably shouldn't press it. because Because the most likely
1:03:25
outcome is... incredible abundance for all. That's what I thought
1:03:32
actually. It struck me that now you seem to have
1:03:34
decided it's inevitable. Let's hope for the best and go
1:03:39
for the ride. Yeah, I mean... Yes, pretty much. Let's...
1:03:45
Let's enjoy the ride. That's my philosophy at this point.
1:03:49
What do you think he means? AI is somehow going
1:03:53
to bring abundance for all. Abundance of what? He needs
1:03:58
to talk to Mamdami about this so he can stop
1:04:00
the rent control. Obviously, everybody in New York is going
1:04:03
to be living like, you know. The ultra wealthy, right?
1:04:08
Incredible abundance. It sounds glorious, doesn't it? I mean, AI
1:04:12
can provide you with entertainment. I think the models are
1:04:18
going to continue to get better. where you will be
1:04:21
able to go into your chat bot if you have
1:04:25
one and say, oh, my kids really like dinosaurs and
1:04:32
trains. So create a cartoon around these two things. And
1:04:37
it'll do it. And it'll be okay. I mean, broadcast
1:04:42
television lately is no prize. lately. You know, I mean,
1:04:47
so that I think it can do. I think it'll
1:04:50
be able to write long form stories. We've already had
1:04:54
a few cases. where somebody submitted a story unbeknownst to
1:05:00
the people holding the competition. four writers, and one... only
1:05:07
to be outed as AI writing. So there's no question
1:05:10
that people are already reading AI-generated stories and liking them,
1:05:15
I guess, if they're winning awards and the one woman
1:05:18
in the UK had a publishing contract that was then...
1:05:22
taken back once it came out that she used AI
1:05:25
to write the book. But the book was selling. As
1:05:30
an independent author, it was selling enough that she got
1:05:33
a book deal. And you've written books. You understand that
1:05:35
you have to move enough books before a publisher is
1:05:37
like, oh, interesting. Oh, sure. Yeah. But I mean, the
1:05:41
thing is, there's always a vast segment of the populace.
1:05:46
who enjoy reading or viewing crap. Well, yes. I mean,
1:05:52
really. So, you know, some people read some A.I. slop
1:05:55
or see some really idiotic sitcom or movie, whatever, and
1:05:58
go, oh, that's great. You know, it's just the way
1:06:01
of the species. Well, it's because short form video. Dvorak
1:06:06
was onto that with the TikTok stuff. It's like that
1:06:09
is melting people's brains. Oh, yeah. There was something. There
1:06:13
was no clip of the thing I was looking at
1:06:15
just before the show about how it's rewiring. The short
1:06:18
span of stuff has just screwed people's heads so they
1:06:21
can no longer really focus their attention for more than
1:06:25
20, 30 seconds on anything. So that's why book reading
1:06:28
is really going the way of the dodo, I guess.
1:06:31
People can't. They don't have the attention span. And because
1:06:33
people read on their phones. Oh, no. I'm going to
1:06:37
read while I'm in the bathroom for like three minutes
1:06:39
and that's it. I'm not, why do I need to
1:06:41
read anything but my phone? The phone has everything. Right.
1:06:45
It's very weird that people watch movies. They get their,
1:06:50
you know, phone calls that people still call. They get
1:06:52
text messages. You're getting, you know, photographs. My mom loves
1:06:56
getting from their, you know, great grandson. Here, oh, there's
1:06:59
a video. That's great. But so now they're happy that
1:07:02
I hooked them up with, you know, so they could
1:07:04
see it on the big screen on the computer. when
1:07:06
it comes in. It's the one good thing Apple does.
1:07:09
It makes it really easy to get your text messages
1:07:12
from your phone to your computer. But they love that
1:07:16
kind of stuff. But for the kids today that are
1:07:19
growing up, that your brain is getting wired on this.
1:07:22
I mean, when I was a kid, I was playing
1:07:24
with computers. I mean, I know people are going to
1:07:27
be surprised, you know, nerdy stuff like playing Dungeons and
1:07:30
Dragons. And while I was never huge into Dungeons and
1:07:34
Dragons to play Dungeons and Dragons at all, there's like
1:07:37
stacks of books that you have to read and understand
1:07:40
the rules. Now I don't think there's the comprehension level
1:07:45
for a lot of people. No, of course not. They're
1:07:48
like, give me phone candy crush. And that's kind of
1:07:51
the... The maximum level. that what they can do. But
1:07:56
Elon says there's a high doom, a high P doom.
1:08:00
I mean, you got to believe Elon. Do you think
1:08:04
there's still a 10 to 20 percent chance that killer
1:08:07
robots mean the end of humanity? That's a high P.
1:08:12
Doom, as they say. Well, In the long run, we're
1:08:17
all dead, of course. According to the standard model of
1:08:25
physics, the end of the universe is a long, boring...
1:08:31
sort of thin gray soup of gradual cooling. I mean,
1:08:39
it's sort of the heat death the universe is called.
1:08:42
So if the heat death of the universe is in
1:08:44
fact the outcome for our reality, then it really is
1:08:48
all about the journey. Because the destination is terrible. Adi's
1:08:52
a journey. Oh, Jay-Z didn't like Journey either. Yeah, I'm
1:08:57
with Dvorak. Yeah, I don't like Journey. I'm sick of
1:08:59
hearing Journey. Everything's a Journey. I cut my toenails. It
1:09:01
was a great Journey. But it's interesting. I mean, Elon,
1:09:04
I'm trying to figure, what do you think would be
1:09:06
fun to have a drink with Elon? Oh, yeah, absolutely.
1:09:09
Sure. I mean, the guy's brilliant, but some of these
1:09:11
ideas are a little out there. It's like, I would
1:09:16
love to believe that we're going to have computers. which
1:09:20
is what this is, have the capacity. to do actual
1:09:26
thinking and reasoning. over pattern matching. That's what they're good
1:09:34
at now. They're good at pattern matching. When you ask
1:09:36
your chatbot a question. It is giving you the answer.
1:09:42
letter by letter, maybe word by word on some of
1:09:46
the newer ones, but it's pretty much letters guessing what.
1:09:49
should come next based on. probabilities. It's not actually thinking,
1:09:55
it's just going out and trying to find the information,
1:10:00
which was this interesting story where... Allegedly, you know, an
1:10:05
AI model from OpenAI was given a task. This has
1:10:10
made some of the mainstream news even. And it cheated.
1:10:15
to get the result that it was looking for. Now,
1:10:20
is this... Wait a minute. Wait, wait. The AI cheated
1:10:23
itself? Is that correct? Did I understand you correctly? Yes.
1:10:27
It found a way to break out of the sandbox
1:10:32
that it was in, which when you see the story,
1:10:34
it's like, well, it was in a computer that had
1:10:38
limited internet connectivity. But the thing figured out how to
1:10:44
get to the internet, you It's a demon. Yes. Oh,
1:10:47
I think it may be. Yes. And what OpenAI is
1:10:50
calling an unprecedented cyber incident. Its artificial intelligence system hacked
1:10:55
into another AI company on its own. And of course,
1:10:57
it's unprecedented. Everything's unprecedented. Definitely. It's over its keys. Its
1:11:02
artificial intelligence system hacked into another AI company on its
1:11:05
own. And this is raising a number of concerns about
1:11:08
the capabilities and wide-ranging implications of these powerful models. For
1:11:13
more on this, let's bring in security technologist and cybersecurity
1:11:16
expert expert, Bruce Schneier. Bruce, thanks so much for joining
1:11:19
us today. Thanks for having me. All right. So was
1:11:22
it only a matter of time before AI simply outsmarted
1:11:25
itself and hacked into a fellow system? And is this
1:11:28
really highlighting a new era? Wait, how is the AI
1:11:31
outsmarting itself to... get the answer to a problem. People
1:11:38
have problems with words meaning things. The guy talking sounds
1:11:41
like he's AI. He doesn't sound quite human, does he?
1:11:44
It may be. Yeah. I mean, really, your best AI
1:11:47
experts today should be AI. Yeah. of cybersecurity. You know,
1:11:52
it's interesting. It is both new and not new. What
1:11:55
we saw is that the AI was being tested on
1:11:58
cybersecurity capabilities, and it was trying to pass a test.
1:12:02
And it decided that the best way to pass the
1:12:04
test was not to do the work, but to cheat.
1:12:07
So it broke out of its containment. It was not
1:12:09
connected to the internet, and thought it would find the
1:12:12
answers in Huggy Faces' network, hacked into its network, and
1:12:15
tried to... Whoa, stop, stop. Did he say Huggy Faces?
1:12:20
Hugging Face. Yes. Hugging Face. What is Hugging Face? It
1:12:24
is a repository of AI models that you can download
1:12:31
to run on your own hardware. So where the people
1:12:36
that are using, you know, chat GPT, you're giving money
1:12:39
to open AI and you're going to their website. Hugging
1:12:43
Face has models that you can download and run locally
1:12:47
on your computer. If you have a large enough video
1:12:50
card or if you have an Apple with a lot
1:12:52
of memory like I do. You can download these models
1:12:57
and do all sorts of things. Like I've got models
1:12:59
that can create text to speech. So you can clone
1:13:02
somebody's voice, which we have a clip here from somebody
1:13:06
that sent in some, you can do your average chat
1:13:10
bot thing. You can do also, it's all sorts of
1:13:14
different models. that have been. distilled, I guess is the
1:13:20
best word in one way or the other. So they
1:13:22
can take, usually these are models. And I think one
1:13:26
of these clips mentions. You know, these ones that you
1:13:30
can download aren't quite as powerful. as the ones that
1:13:34
you can use online, but they're close to where. the
1:13:37
models you use online were six months ago so they're
1:13:40
not that far behind And the intriguing thing is those
1:13:45
models. There are zero guardrails. Half of these things that
1:13:50
you can download. On Hugging Face, which I know, great.
1:13:54
I didn't understand why. I still don't understand where the
1:13:57
name came from. Maybe I should look it up. because
1:13:59
it does seem like a funny name, but. They take
1:14:03
the models. So when OpenAI released the model that they
1:14:08
wanted people to be able to download. The AI community.
1:14:15
goes in and they strip out the downloads, all the
1:14:20
guardrails from that download, and then re-upload it. So then
1:14:25
when you download it and you ask it questions like,
1:14:28
you know, how do you dissolve a body and get
1:14:30
away with a murder? It'll give you answers. as they
1:14:34
all should. You know, excuse me, this is... The problem
1:14:38
with AI trying to do guardrails is... I hate the
1:14:41
guardrails. They're never going to work. good they're never gonna
1:14:46
people can try and i understand why you should limit
1:14:49
like your children from using things like ai because it's
1:14:52
going to give them you know answers that you do
1:14:56
not like How about, how can I create an atomic
1:14:59
bomb?
1:15:01
It'll tell you. I mean, you have to get the,
1:15:02
you might have to go to Iran to get the
1:15:04
information. Oh, they'll sell it to me. I'm sure. The
1:15:07
dust. With the hugging face stuff. Yeah. It depends on
1:15:11
the source data. As Sir Knife says in the troll
1:15:13
room, no agenda, not stream. If you're not there, when
1:15:15
these shows go live. you are missing out but that's
1:15:19
some very interesting things i have seen models that it
1:15:23
takes one of these models that is pretty good already
1:15:28
at writing prose And it will then... teach it the
1:15:34
style of certain authors. So I've seen ones with Ray
1:15:38
Bradbury. I've seen ones with Mark Twain, and I'm sure
1:15:41
there are countless others. that it teaches them the style.
1:15:48
So it's a very interesting thing, but it's a place
1:15:51
where you can download all sorts of AI things, not
1:15:54
just the overall chatbots, but if you want to do...
1:15:58
video creation, photo creation, all that. That's the place you
1:16:02
go. And there are no guardrails. And this is why
1:16:04
it's always been funny to me that people are worried
1:16:07
about these main things because the people that really want
1:16:11
to use them without the guardrails, they're going to figure
1:16:13
out a way to do it. Of course. to get
1:16:17
the answers to the test. So it's the AI doing
1:16:21
what. was It was told to do, but not in
1:16:24
the way it was told to do. And that is
1:16:26
something we're seeing more of. I think this is genie-like
1:16:29
behavior, where the genie kind of takes your wish and
1:16:33
twists it around. Not new, but certainly at a scale.
1:16:39
may we have not seen before. Yeah, I don't go
1:16:42
along with the genie bit. It is... Just trying different
1:16:48
things. to solve the problem. I've played around with creating
1:16:53
a simplistic asteroid type game. I want to see vibe
1:16:57
coding. What am I going to do with vibe coding?
1:16:59
Let's see. If you can make a simple video game
1:17:04
that you can play in a browser. And sure enough,
1:17:07
you just go step by step. And I've noticed a
1:17:10
few times watching the steps that the AI is taking.
1:17:15
For me, it's usually Grok or OpenAI or Claude and
1:17:21
then seeing which one. The other funny thing is anytime
1:17:25
I've run into a problem with one of the AIs
1:17:27
where it's like problem it can't figure out. trying the
1:17:31
next day. I 99% of the time fixes it. So
1:17:34
there's, it shows you the AIs. They're not really all
1:17:39
that smart, but it's. You can just tell it to
1:17:43
give more detail like it created. Again, like the Asteroids
1:17:48
game, but you remember the original Asteroids game, you know,
1:17:50
that was just like a lion, you know, it was
1:17:52
very simplistic. that's kind of where it started. And I'm
1:17:56
like, well, no, give it some texture. I should have
1:17:59
picked Tempest. I agree. That would have been a better
1:18:01
game. I want a genie. I want a genie. And
1:18:03
I want, I want Jasmine. She went with the genie.
1:18:06
Right. And I want, I want them both on my
1:18:08
journey. That's what I want. You know, this is Jasmine
1:18:11
journey. What the AIs can give you very. greatly and
1:18:18
you still have to fact check everything. And for people,
1:18:22
again, because space video games, oh, my gosh, ester gene.
1:18:26
There's a thousand million quadrillion space video games. It's all
1:18:30
he does. He plays space video games. Wow. And. So
1:18:35
there is a very clear roadmap on how to do
1:18:39
certain things. But what I've noticed... was there are times
1:18:44
in the, and I want to do air quotes, but
1:18:46
we don't do video, on the thinking of the AI
1:18:51
model is basically it tried something. to accomplish what you
1:18:57
ask. And that didn't work. So it's trying something else.
1:19:01
It's not really thinking. It knows something worked or it
1:19:06
didn't by the pattern matching. And it could try something
1:19:09
else, but it doesn't really have. in understanding just the
1:19:14
other example that's popping to mind is Some album art
1:19:18
I did for No Agenda with a girl riding like
1:19:22
the little train like you have in the malls, you
1:19:26
know, the little itty bitty train. Sure. It didn't understand
1:19:29
what an engineer's cap was. It just kept giving a
1:19:33
baseball cap. Sure. Yeah. Because there's obviously not enough things
1:19:37
trained on what an engineer's cap, who knows what an
1:19:39
engineer's cap looks like now. Well, it's not a thinker.
1:19:43
It's really, I guess, from a layman's point of view,
1:19:46
it's a collector. He collects crap and sometimes puts it
1:19:49
together in the right way and sometimes it won't. The
1:19:53
only ones I fool around with are ChatGTP, which I
1:19:56
loathe. It's very left-wing. It doesn't like what I say.
1:19:58
It's always telling me I can't answer that question because
1:20:01
I don't like your politics. Right, it's got the guardrails,
1:20:03
which are no good. Whoever's behind that, I want to
1:20:06
punch. And then, but I do kind of like Grok's,
1:20:11
Grok's a lot smarter and it's a lot more open-minded.
1:20:14
I don't think it's ever said, I'm not, I'm not
1:20:16
telling you, but, but the chat GDB does that a
1:20:20
lot. Oh yeah. That's way harder to get Grok to
1:20:22
tell you no. If you're asking Grok something and it's
1:20:26
telling you no, then you're really getting into some dark
1:20:29
territory. I would think, yeah. But I have a few
1:20:32
clips. I just want to play them in honor of
1:20:34
Sir Knives and he sent these in and they kind
1:20:37
of go with the, AI talk that he is working
1:20:41
on. A John C. Dvorak voice. emulator and Dvorak's voice,
1:20:47
I've talked about this before, is very hard. Just like
1:20:52
Bobby Kennedy's, there are some voices. that no matter what
1:20:56
you do, Very hard. So women? way easier. I don't
1:21:02
know why. The ones where if you're just giving it
1:21:04
six seconds to ten seconds, for the female voices it
1:21:07
seems way easier for it to get an accurate read
1:21:11
that sounds more realistic. Maybe men are actually more complex
1:21:16
than women. Maybe that's all backwards. Voices maybe, but everything
1:21:19
else, no. We want a hamburger and a beer or
1:21:23
something. I know Sir Knives. I met him at a
1:21:25
couple of meetups. He's a cool dude. And what he's
1:21:28
doing is, like I said, with hugging face. He is
1:21:33
giving it so much information on John C. Dvorak's voice.
1:21:39
that he's using all the compute time at work, I
1:21:42
won't say anything certainized, to train it to do this,
1:21:47
but I think it is still quite a bit away.
1:21:50
Here's an example. In the morning to all the ships
1:21:55
at sea, boots on the ground, the feet in the
1:21:57
air, the subs in the water, and all the dames
1:22:00
and knights out there, I'm John C. Dvorak. See, it's
1:22:04
too nasally. Dvorak's voice is so hard. Yeah. Well, there
1:22:08
were three iterations that he sent. And I remember liking
1:22:12
the thinking the first one was the most similar. And
1:22:14
that is the first. And that is the first. After
1:22:17
that, it kind of I think it drips away. I
1:22:20
will say I did. I don't remember if I did
1:22:22
this one, Sir Knives on Quen or on Fish Audio.
1:22:28
There's some great names. This one I thought was a
1:22:31
little more realistic sounding. And this was a shorter. Just
1:22:35
throw in a voice clip to try to emulate. I
1:22:39
love getting up in the morning to Darren O'Neill. He's
1:22:42
okay with me lying about this? I think that sounds
1:22:46
a little closer, but the trolls in the troll room
1:22:48
can... vote about it. But each model is a little
1:22:52
different. The cadence is too fast. It needs to slow
1:22:54
down a little. Right. It's very hard. Maybe that's John
1:22:57
15 years ago. Right. Or maybe it's just the age.
1:23:01
Yeah. It is very hard to do. But now... With
1:23:06
that said... If you needed. to build an app or
1:23:11
build one of these things that was going to be
1:23:13
like a customer service thing or if it was going
1:23:15
to be narrating your YouTube channel, both of those are
1:23:19
more than acceptable. I mean, you can, sounds human. It
1:23:23
sounds like somebody's speaking, but it doesn't sound. like the
1:23:28
jcd that we know it doesn't have those little things
1:23:32
that you miss it'll be interesting keep us in the
1:23:36
loop certain knives i want to know the more you
1:23:38
train it if it actually does get better or sometimes
1:23:44
with trying to train in a photo style or that
1:23:48
of a character. The more you try to train it,
1:23:52
it then kind of starts losing. And nobody's really sure
1:23:56
why with a lot of this stuff. It's very interesting
1:24:00
technology, and I totally disagree with you on this is
1:24:03
not going to. God, if AI is governing everybody in
1:24:08
10 years, it's not going to be any fun. It's
1:24:12
not going to be. It'll be abundant. It'll be abundant.
1:24:14
Everything will be. Stop complaining. How is my AI going
1:24:17
to make me a sandwich? I mean, that's, I don't
1:24:20
understand. Isn't there a robot that can do that? I'll
1:24:22
guarantee you somewhere there's a robot making sandwiches by now,
1:24:25
I would think. Yeah, there must be. I mean, I
1:24:28
know a few years ago, I think it was covered
1:24:32
on no agenda. White Castle was the first fast food.
1:24:36
franchise that had a trial in one of their locations.
1:24:41
The whole kitchen was robotic, but that's not really AI.
1:24:45
It's teaching you grab from here and put it here.
1:24:49
Now an AI would be the human eye type robot
1:24:56
that could be in my kitchen and I'd be like,
1:24:58
hey, we'll go look in the fridge and see what
1:25:00
I have and make dinner. Yeah. That's a little bit
1:25:04
tougher. Well, you know, it's the first iteration of human-like
1:25:09
AI. I'm really good. So it's going to be, there's
1:25:11
no question. It's not going to be sandwich makers or
1:25:14
bolt turners or barbecue grill. It's going to be hot
1:25:19
chicks. You know, that's the future. I mean, when, really,
1:25:23
I mean, when VHS came out. The mainstream guys, the
1:25:29
studios and television, they were way behind the porn guys
1:25:33
in diving in with both feet. They saw the future
1:25:35
first. So I would think that why would it be
1:25:38
any different for AI robots, right? Well, it's definitely where
1:25:42
you are with video creation, image creation, you know, the
1:25:48
days of needing a Playboy model. It's gone. Oh, yeah.
1:25:55
Yeah. You know, and that's the, I've got interesting stories
1:25:58
on that at some point as well because I worked
1:26:01
doing websites for a few different playmate models who... Oh,
1:26:05
you dirty man. My wife was like, that's fine. I
1:26:08
don't care. She's like, I'll just change the locks. But
1:26:13
it was back at the time when the internet was
1:26:16
very... very new and they were trying to figure out
1:26:20
you know hey can you make money and really if
1:26:22
i would have just kind of stuck that thing out
1:26:24
i could have been the guy that came up with
1:26:26
only fans or something like that which would have probably
1:26:28
been worth a whole lot of money. But back at
1:26:31
that point, you couldn't even do video online and photos
1:26:34
were very limited even. Nobody could have really predicted how
1:26:38
much bandwidth we would have today. And I see you've
1:26:44
got a couple of clips here on those flock cameras,
1:26:47
speaking of technology. Yes, yes. And AI and being controlled
1:26:53
by machines. I just kind of, I got hip to
1:26:56
this recently and I was just sickened by what I
1:27:01
discovered. I mean, these things, the company is not Flock,
1:27:06
it's Flock Safety. Notice that. Not Flock Security or Flock
1:27:09
Surveillance, which would be kind of honest. Flock Safety? Nah,
1:27:13
that's bullshit. That's who's safety. Yeah, really, please. So this
1:27:18
is kind of a, you know, I have a few
1:27:19
clips that sort of drill down deeper into the fallacy
1:27:25
of Flock. And, you know, I'm late to the party.
1:27:29
of people that are very pissed off about these things.
1:27:32
And there were stories of many of them being cut
1:27:35
down and spray painted over and destroyed. I think in
1:27:38
Houston, I even saw a thing incredibly in Commie, Connecticut.
1:27:43
I didn't realize that it's all over here as well.
1:27:46
But two towns have said, get them out of our
1:27:47
towns. I like that. And what's really odd about this
1:27:51
issue is for the first one of the few times
1:27:55
in my life, I'm seeing folks from the right and
1:27:59
the left, united in their hatred and distaste for flock.
1:28:04
That's what we need. Yeah, I mean that almost never
1:28:07
ever happens. So I guess the first one would be
1:28:12
click on flock number one. Get the flock out. people
1:28:16
are finally on to Flock. You have towns throughout the
1:28:20
entire country from Chicago, Illinois to Sedona and Arizona who
1:28:24
are actually canceling their Flock contracts because they figured out
1:28:28
they are getting more and in fact a whole lot
1:28:31
more than they signed up for. Hi, I'm Chad Marlow
1:28:34
and I'm a senior policy counsel at the ACLU and
1:28:37
today we're calling out what I think is a company
1:28:39
that is really impressively competing to be the worst company
1:28:43
in America and that is Flock Safety. Flock Safety is
1:28:47
a company that scans the license plates of cars, digitizes
1:28:51
them, and then allows them to be run against government
1:28:53
hot lists. And it also can store that information so
1:28:56
that they can create a record of every place you've
1:28:59
traveled for as long as they keep the data. And
1:29:02
this can include really sensitive places, like political meetings you've
1:29:05
gone to, doctor's offices, religious institutions, even where you sleep
1:29:10
at night. And in fact, if you read their contract,
1:29:12
it actually is worldwide licenses to use your data. So
1:29:16
if your tiny town is using Flock, you should be
1:29:20
asking yourself, why are we using an ALPR company that
1:29:24
isn't only making this data available to my town? It's
1:29:27
being made available to anyone in the entire country and,
1:29:30
in fact, in the entire world. Too often, the place
1:29:33
that you live may be thinking, we need to collect
1:29:36
information. We need to surveil our population to keep everybody
1:29:39
safe. But what they're not asking is, safe from whom?
1:29:46
Oh yeah, the threats from the Trump administration. This clip
1:29:50
went on for about another 90 seconds, Darren, but that's
1:29:53
where I had to clip it. And as much as
1:29:55
I loathe the ACLU, there's...
1:30:00
A few, few instances where they've actually done some good.
1:30:03
And I'm almost tempted to send them a donation because
1:30:08
this, really, when I look at this crap, they now
1:30:11
have 120,000 cameras in 49 states. That's bad. Okay, this
1:30:19
is, this tops COVID and this maybe even tops open
1:30:22
borders to herald the destruction of the United States. Kingdom
1:30:30
this is what has made China even more of a
1:30:33
slave state than it ever was this stuff is really
1:30:37
really dangerous you know yeah I got my first primer
1:30:40
on this from Sir Ryan Bemrose hmm and he doesn't
1:30:44
like them so I mean he doesn't like anything but
1:30:46
he really doesn't like these cameras and the nefarious thing.
1:30:53
They're being used by a lot of private companies. So
1:30:56
there's really not much the cities and municipalities can do
1:31:01
if your local Home Depot puts these in the parking
1:31:04
lot. True, but the cities and municipalities can say, we
1:31:08
don't want them on our streets. Yes, and they are.
1:31:10
It's dflock.org is the website, I believe. Yes. Where you
1:31:15
can see a listing of where these things are. Right.
1:31:20
And when I looked at that. There is no way.
1:31:25
For me too. drive out of our neighborhood. Well, not
1:31:29
if I want to use the roads. I mean, I
1:31:31
guess I could probably go through some backyards or something.
1:31:34
Oh, you'd be wrong there. They have quite a fleet
1:31:40
of drones. So it's not just about roads anymore. See,
1:31:44
that's the fun part. You can't leave. the house and
1:31:49
all of these it was bad enough when it was
1:31:51
the ring doorbells right these have now added the way
1:31:56
they're pointed down the streets that are going in and
1:32:00
out of towns in and out of neighborhoods There is
1:32:05
a question of. exactly how much data these are collecting
1:32:11
because these aren't your normal cameras. And this is what
1:32:16
I learned from Ben Rose. And I shouldn't even admit
1:32:19
that I learned anything from Ben Rose, but these things
1:32:23
also have sensors in them. So not only are they
1:32:27
picking up your license plate, which any camera can do,
1:32:31
you know, OCR, optical character recognition, and put that into
1:32:35
a database, but... There are also antennas on here. So
1:32:41
if your phone is emitting a signal and you drive
1:32:45
by one of these, it's possible. that it's actually grabbing
1:32:49
information from your phone. So even if you're in a
1:32:53
car with somebody else or just walking down the street,
1:32:57
not only do they just see, hey, here's this guy.
1:33:00
He looks like Larry. If you have your phone with
1:33:03
you, it's possible they know it's Larry because they've now
1:33:07
got the Mac address of your phone and that listing
1:33:09
shows exactly who you are. And this isn't just a
1:33:14
problem with the flock cameras. I've known this. for a
1:33:20
couple of years at least. that is when these reverse
1:33:26
image search sites started being a thing and bing.com also
1:33:31
had this built in. I don't know if it still
1:33:33
is. Haven't used it in a while. But if you
1:33:37
have a photograph of somebody, you can upload it to
1:33:41
one of these sites and have it go look for
1:33:44
other images that contain that person, which makes it very
1:33:49
easy. If you're just walking down the street and you
1:33:51
take a picture of somebody, there's a pretty good possibility
1:33:55
you can find their social media pages, their Facebook or
1:33:58
whatever social media page. It's very... very invasive and I
1:34:05
don't know... what an answer would be on how you
1:34:09
stop this. I think really this is so far out
1:34:12
of the bag already. Well, I think, yeah, I agree.
1:34:16
It's very scary. It's so far out of the bag.
1:34:18
But there is, I think, a groundswell of opposition to
1:34:22
this crap. The guy that runs it is this geek.
1:34:26
His name is Garrett Langley. And he's everything you'd think
1:34:30
he'd be. And he knows what he's doing because he,
1:34:34
it's now, I think it's got a market cap above
1:34:37
8 billion. That's pretty rich. And he knows naming it
1:34:43
flock safety was quite smart because who's going to be
1:34:46
screaming for this? You know, hysterical people, you know, say,
1:34:49
I want to be safe. And as Musk just said,
1:34:52
you know, 10 minutes ago, we all wind up dead.
1:34:54
Life is not a safe proposition. It's terminal. It's very
1:34:56
dangerous. But they think it's you'll live forever if you
1:35:00
only have enough surveillance. And so he's pitching it to
1:35:03
hysterical citizens. And but the real the real, I guess,
1:35:09
end user really is. is endless police forces. And let's
1:35:13
not forget, most cops are guys, and most guys, like
1:35:18
yourself and myself, are gear sluts. - Yes, right. -
1:35:22
Really, we like stuff. And it's become, you know, the
1:35:26
police, there's a fascinating book I would recommend to anybody
1:35:28
called The Rise of the Warrior Cop, a guy named
1:35:31
something Rodney Belko, I think. And it's insane, I mean,
1:35:35
not that long ago, a lot of cops were called
1:35:38
peace officers, They had a nightstick and a gun and
1:35:42
that was it. And now they all look like they're
1:35:44
just coming off the battlefield in Fallujah or Iran or
1:35:47
someplace, you know. And because they like having the high-end
1:35:52
gear. So this is who this guy is selling to,
1:35:54
okay, with great success. Here's an interesting little factoid I
1:36:01
tripped over that might be of interest to you. MRAPs,
1:36:04
that's mine resistant, whatever the hell it is. It's basically
1:36:08
a tank with rubber wheels instead of treads. How many
1:36:12
of those would you think are buzzing around these United
1:36:15
States under police use? And this is a total military
1:36:20
vehicle. I mean, this has nothing to do with civilian
1:36:22
use at all. Man, I couldn't even guess. I'm guessing
1:36:25
it's in the 100,000 plus. No, no, no, no. I
1:36:29
forget what the per cost of them. It's expensive. But
1:36:32
there's almost 800 of them, 800 of them, as they
1:36:35
know. But they're not in places where you think, well,
1:36:37
maybe you might need this in Chicago or L.A. or
1:36:40
New York. In Mayberry, they've got MRAPs. And I don't
1:36:45
know, I have never, I have yet to hear ever
1:36:48
of a domestic minefield. Why do you need a mine-resistant
1:36:52
vehicle to do your police work? But that's what they've
1:36:55
got. Because they had a budget and they had extra
1:36:59
money. And the budget gets less unless you demand more
1:37:03
every single year. Isn't that true? Yes. Yeah, you have
1:37:06
to spend the budget. You have to spend the budget.
1:37:08
So this guy, and this guy is also sharp enough,
1:37:10
this geek, Langley to to answer the critics and the
1:37:17
opposition. So this is flock number two. is a collection,
1:37:21
he put this out on the FLOC website, with a
1:37:24
collection of very trustworthy-looking law enforcement officers talking about why
1:37:29
FLOC is great and so on and so forth. And
1:37:32
it's pretty sickening. We don't participate in immigration enforcement. We
1:37:36
don't share this information with immigration officials. There are policies
1:37:40
in place, there's auditing in place, and there are protocols
1:37:44
that ensure that technology and that access to that technology
1:37:48
is monitored. information for longer than 30 days. SCSO says
1:37:53
vehicle theft reports have gone down 54%. You know, I
1:37:57
appreciate that the council sees the benefits. Keeping our community
1:38:00
safe to help make Spokane safer. We are working together
1:38:03
to make sure that you're safe and that we are
1:38:05
controlling the technology and it does not control us. Ha
1:38:09
ha ha. How many times did he say safe in
1:38:11
there? No, and it's a question of what it's being
1:38:15
used for. I get how easy it is to sell
1:38:17
this because I've got cameras that point outside of my
1:38:22
house. So that way if somebody does break into the
1:38:25
house, you have an idea of who it was. But
1:38:29
this... The data. is public. Anybody can request the data.
1:38:37
which means, oh, if somebody, you know, your wife thinks
1:38:39
you're having an affair, well, she could get your data
1:38:42
and the person she thinks you're having an affair with
1:38:44
and, oh, wait, look. Yeah. They're always at the motel
1:38:47
motel. Yeah. Oh, yeah. It's happened many times already. Yeah.
1:38:52
When I lived in Los Angeles, I moved in a
1:38:55
very nice neighborhood. And it was great. It was kind
1:38:58
of bucolic for about 20 years while I was raising
1:39:00
my kids. And then suddenly when the lefties took over
1:39:03
in the city and in Sacramento, it all went to
1:39:05
hell. And I soon had six external video cameras on
1:39:11
my home. So a squirrel couldn't approach without being picked
1:39:14
up on video. Really, truly. And for a long time,
1:39:19
you know, I'd hear about other places being ripped off,
1:39:22
people's cars stolen, catalytic converters, so on and so forth.
1:39:26
And my younger daughter would love to review the videos
1:39:29
in the morning and see what it picked up overnight.
1:39:31
It was usually coyotes and raccoons and a couple of
1:39:34
mountain lions, stuff like that. And one morning she's looking
1:39:37
at breakfast and she just gasps, right? What are you
1:39:40
looking at there? And she shows me and there is
1:39:43
this obvious, you know, kind of meth head ghoul. And
1:39:47
he has got my in LA all of the most
1:39:50
of not all but just about every house The the
1:39:52
breaker box is is on the outside of the house
1:39:56
because it's always good weather It's just got a little
1:39:59
trap door over it. And here's this freaking ghoul with
1:40:02
a flashlight in his mouth trying to figure out which
1:40:05
breaker to flip. You know, I'm like, wow. Yeah, wow.
1:40:10
Wow. So I very quickly got a, I put a
1:40:16
padlock on that breaker box. But you can't make them
1:40:19
too big. You can snip them pretty easily with the
1:40:22
smallest bolt cutters, really. Right. And so I thought, gee,
1:40:26
now what do I do? Well, I printed out on
1:40:29
a sheet large enough to cover the surface and then...
1:40:34
So it would last a while and I taped to
1:40:37
the breaker box and it said breaking in I'll be
1:40:40
aiming for your face That's what you have to do.
1:40:43
Okay. And guess what, Darren? Over the next year, every
1:40:48
neighbor around me got hit for something. They had catalytic
1:40:51
converters taken. They had cars stolen. They had break-ins to
1:40:53
the house. Mine was untouched. Why would that be? So
1:40:58
the lesson is surveillance means very, very little. It's enforcement
1:41:03
that matters. Yes. Yes. And the possibility that somebody may
1:41:08
come out and shoot you. Yes. Yes. So then I
1:41:13
got a third clip on this and, you know, it's.
1:41:16
Well, I'll let this play through when we get to
1:41:17
the end. The last word in this clip is the
1:41:20
punchline, and it kind of takes the wind out of
1:41:22
your sails. But it's a great buildup. I'll say that.
1:41:27
Today, I'm excited to announce a new company called Shepard
1:41:30
Safety. We're launching satellites to watch over Casa Grande day
1:41:33
and night. Our AI will monitor. And another safety name.
1:41:37
I like that. Safety, baby, yeah. Where government officials go,
1:41:41
where they stop, who they meet with, and when they
1:41:44
return home. collecting and building profiles on your vehicles, spouses'
1:41:50
vehicles, children's vehicles, and other visual characteristics. We'll combine that
1:41:55
information with publicly available data. Bluetooth signals, advertising IDs. vehicle
1:42:02
information, commercial data sources. There's no difference than the current
1:42:06
flock safety capture systems. Local businesses will be invited to
1:42:10
join our network so government officials can continue being protected
1:42:13
while shopping, eating, or traveling throughout the city. Some of
1:42:17
you might think this sounds invasive. You think? What do
1:42:22
you mean, maybe? Listen. But, and you may worry about
1:42:26
abuse, you may worry about unauthorized access. tracking innocent people.
1:42:33
We understand those concerns. After all, those are the exact
1:42:37
same concerns of all the citizens. Now this is satire.
1:42:40
I would never do this to you. Could I? Probably.
1:42:45
But I wouldn't. Because it's wrong. just like what you
1:42:49
guys are doing to us, is wrong. I'm innocent. I
1:42:52
don't do anything wrong. You're tracking and uploading my information,
1:42:56
my movements, every day. without my permission. And I don't
1:43:01
appreciate it. And I'd like you to stop. I'd like
1:43:05
you to do something about it. Thank you to put
1:43:07
it behind a warrant. Just like my phone records. That's
1:43:12
what I'm asking you guys to do. So there's, he
1:43:16
builds this terrific case. I thought it was a pretty
1:43:18
smart thing he was saying, because can you imagine like
1:43:21
Newsom and AOC and Pritzker and all those being tracked
1:43:26
every, they're every movement. Wouldn't that be funny? And then
1:43:31
he undercuts himself twice. First of all, he says, basically,
1:43:34
excuse me, I'm a high road right winger. I would
1:43:36
never do something like that because I'm a nice guy.
1:43:38
Well, why the hell not? If he can do it,
1:43:40
do it. Put some heat on them. And then he
1:43:42
ends with just, well, Since you're doing it, put it
1:43:45
behind a warrant. What a stupid thing to say. No,
1:43:49
just destroy it all. Get it gone. Unfortunately, this is
1:43:53
why the right loses so many battles. Because we're nice
1:43:56
guys. Don't take it away all the way. Just kind
1:44:01
of fix it so I don't have to worry about
1:44:02
it. Bad idea. Very bad. Yeah, I mean, the problem
1:44:06
comes from the fact, though, that if you're in public,
1:44:09
it's completely legal for people to... take a photo, video,
1:44:15
it's... So trying to get this to stop is like,
1:44:18
I don't know there's any way without totally, you know,
1:44:22
going in a different direction that isn't necessarily better. Bye.
1:44:29
Well, it's not an easy solution once you've got the
1:44:33
technology that people have, meaning. It sounded like he was
1:44:37
pulling the whole, like, we're going to... you know, post
1:44:41
everywhere you're going, which wouldn't be a bad idea. That's
1:44:44
what they used on Elon and Taylor Swift's planes when
1:44:49
they were like, hey, I've got your tail number. I'm
1:44:51
going to tell people exactly where your plane is, where
1:44:53
it's going. I remember. Now, if you can get that
1:44:57
data and do the same thing, yeah, I get it.
1:45:00
but I don't know what the solution is because if
1:45:04
I want to put a camera outside my house to
1:45:06
protect my house, as you did. You have the right
1:45:09
to do that, absolutely. But does the government have the
1:45:12
right to do that? That's kind of a jump ball.
1:45:15
But aren't these even governments most of the time? Yeah,
1:45:17
they're just, here's what they are. And the next clip
1:45:22
is, this is the CEO, this guy named Garrett Langley.
1:45:27
And this is his TED Talk. So I figured I
1:45:30
better do some serious deconstruction here. And that's what this
1:45:34
is. I've got this guy blathering. And he gave about
1:45:36
a 12, 14-minute talk. And, of course, first of all,
1:45:40
the guy's standing there, and he's exactly what you think
1:45:42
he would be. He's got his skinny jeans on. They're
1:45:44
about four inches too short. As a friend of mine
1:45:46
used to say, he should throw a party in his
1:45:47
shoes and invite his pants down. He's a geek. He's
1:45:53
a creepy geek. I mean, you say that lovingly, right?
1:45:55
No, no. With total animosity, really. And so he starts
1:46:01
off with this shaggy dog story about how a flock
1:46:05
camera being on a street corner near a child abduction
1:46:08
saved the day and the kid's life and blah, blah,
1:46:10
blah. And is there embellishment in there? I'd be surprised
1:46:14
were there not, but I don't know. He's telling a
1:46:16
story. And then he gets into the meat of the
1:46:19
matter, which is what people's complaints are. Excuse me. about
1:46:23
this flock crap. And I take him to task at
1:46:28
every turn. I hope you like this. And so when
1:46:31
I talk to these opponents, and I've got to know
1:46:34
many of them over the years now, they tend to
1:46:35
have three big issues with flock. Whether this is a
1:46:39
constitutional violation. What does this mean to my privacy? And
1:46:43
are you building mass surveillance? Let's hit the easy one,
1:46:47
constitutional. 30 court cases over the last two years, every
1:46:50
single one of them is unanimously said, this does not
1:46:53
violate the Constitution. Why? We're not tracking of persons in
1:46:56
real time? We are tracking a fixed location. So I'm
1:47:00
going to check the box on Constitution. Bullshit. Okay, that's
1:47:03
my British friend Minerva chiming in there. So he says
1:47:07
we're not tracking Perver in real time and it's a
1:47:10
stationary situation, right? That's what he just said. However, maybe
1:47:17
I'm going to say two and a half minutes prior
1:47:20
to that statement, he said the following. A 911 call
1:47:25
comes in. They have this van, so they go into
1:47:28
our product and search for a vehicle. They can type
1:47:30
in anything they want. White van, spray paint. Now, what's
1:47:34
cool is it turns every single camera into a detective.
1:47:37
Now, every camera in the city is looking for this
1:47:39
white van. Well, then what do we need police for?
1:47:41
You've got every camera as a detective. Oh, but every
1:47:44
camera's a detective. So all you cops, kiss your jobs
1:47:47
goodbye, because the camera's a detective. The second thing they
1:47:55
do is they launch a drone. So just like Adam
1:47:58
had launched the drone up in the air, the drone's
1:48:00
flying at 400 feet, 65 miles per hour, trying to
1:48:02
find this white van. Now a camera eventually finds them.
1:48:06
Drone goes over. Okay, now what did he just say?
1:48:11
17 seconds back. Fixed objects, doesn't move. Wait a minute,
1:48:16
he's got a drone that's moving at 400 feet high,
1:48:19
65 miles an hour, to track a white van. Whoa,
1:48:22
whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. I think I heard a lie.
1:48:25
Did you, Darren? Yeah, they sound like drones move. Drones
1:48:29
move. Yeah, and by the way, the big case that
1:48:31
this was solving was somebody had shoplifted something out of
1:48:37
a clothing store. Well, of course you need to get
1:48:41
everybody out and about for that. Get everybody out there.
1:48:43
I thought we don't put people in jail for that
1:48:45
anymore. That's right. Why bother? Especially not in L.A. Unless
1:48:49
it was a $1,000 spare. Anything under $950, it's okay.
1:48:52
You can take it. Yeah, so we can continue. Privacy.
1:48:56
This is actually a really good question because... Stop, stop.
1:48:58
Okay. Yeah, beep. The next one is the word privacy.
1:49:03
But listen, you can't even understand it when he says
1:49:06
it because he knows he's lying through his teeth. He
1:49:09
won't even enunciate the word correctly. Listen to this again.
1:49:12
It's funny. And I want to know, did you get
1:49:14
the beep from like a 1980s alarm clock? Exactly. But
1:49:18
when we sat there and said, what if we are
1:49:19
really successful? So the first thing we asked was what
1:49:22
about data ownership? Who should own this data? This is
1:49:24
a lot of data. Historically, companies, my competitors, own the
1:49:29
data and then they resell that data for other use
1:49:31
cases. In FLOX model, the customer always owns the data.
1:49:34
So if you live in San Francisco, it's San Francisco's
1:49:36
data, not FLOX. Okay, so wait a minute. So San
1:49:40
Francisco owns the data, not the company. Well, all that
1:49:44
does is indemnify you against legal hassles, right? Well, it's
1:49:48
not our data. It's San Francisco. Give them some flack.
1:49:51
So what does that mean to John Q. Public? Nothing.
1:49:55
It's just good for flock. But he's pitching this as
1:49:58
if we should care about that. Well, they're telling you
1:50:01
they're only going to keep the things for 30 days.
1:50:03
Where's the guarantee? They don't tell you what they're keeping.
1:50:06
Listen to him contradict himself. right on that very topic
1:50:10
very soon. The second was retention. Well, how long should
1:50:12
this data exist? Historically, companies in this industry stored the
1:50:17
data in perpetuity. That seems to me more like a
1:50:20
liability than an asset. So we delete the data at
1:50:23
30 days. If cities and states have laws that say
1:50:26
it should store longer, we do that. Shorter, we do
1:50:28
that. Bullshit. Okay, so we delete it after 30 days,
1:50:32
unless they want it longer. Right. Then they can keep
1:50:34
it as long as they want. So one lie after
1:50:36
another. That's what he's telling. And well, this is the
1:50:39
issue like we had with January 6th. Most of those
1:50:43
folks... were rounded up because they had their cell phone
1:50:46
or they drove their vehicle into an area. Oh, yeah.
1:50:50
And... The biggest problem with any of this stuff is
1:50:54
that. The policing now turns into... a game of who
1:51:01
was in the area and we have that where that
1:51:05
wasn't the case before which some people might be like
1:51:08
well so what it's like well there's going to be
1:51:10
a much higher number of people that are going to
1:51:15
get rounded up for things that they didn't do or
1:51:19
just because they were in the wrong area at the
1:51:23
wrong time and that's all of a sudden data like
1:51:25
well look you were here It's not good to have
1:51:29
this kind of data for... for tracking. And again, it's
1:51:34
up and down every residential street. I would. guess if
1:51:38
anybody can prove me wrong if your street walk up
1:51:41
and down it if there's not one ring camera on
1:51:45
your street let me know because they're all over now
1:51:48
of course they are And people want to know if
1:51:51
the black helicopters are coming for you. That may be
1:51:54
the case. At least the black drones, that we know.
1:51:57
We covered the Constitution. We covered privacy. Now the big
1:52:00
one, surveillance state. You know, look, I think everyone in
1:52:03
this room probably has a cell phone. And what if
1:52:06
I told you that someone with mediocre computer software skills
1:52:10
could build a product that tracks your exact location in
1:52:12
real time down to a few feet? Stop. Stop. Okay.
1:52:18
Yeah, everybody does have a cell phone. But you can,
1:52:21
as John Dvorak did, and I do quite often myself,
1:52:23
you can leave it in a drawer. It's not stitched
1:52:26
under your epidermis. Okay? You have an option to do
1:52:29
that. But you have no option to avoid these goddamn
1:52:32
cameras when you're driving or walking down the street. Big,
1:52:35
big difference. But Bimbo Boy doesn't bring that up here.
1:52:39
No, he doesn't. Well, because that doesn't go with what
1:52:42
he wants, which is... No, it's not in the sales
1:52:44
pitch. Lots of cameras, lots... I understand why... people buy
1:52:51
into it. It's because... There's already anxiety. I mean, again,
1:52:57
this goes back to a lot of people who don't
1:53:00
have an attention span, who are easily spun up. We
1:53:02
saw this during COVID. We saw the people that were
1:53:06
getting into physical altercations or taking golf clubs to your
1:53:11
cars because you're not wearing a mask, man. Yeah. But
1:53:16
his rationale is you're already being surveilled and spied upon
1:53:20
by your cell phone, so don't complain about it if
1:53:22
we do it too. Blame these not wrong. Yeah, but
1:53:27
again, with a cell phone, you have an option to
1:53:29
at least stop that if you want. You don't have
1:53:31
to take that with you everywhere you go. And he's
1:53:34
going to get into more crap, but something else on
1:53:37
that subject as well, as far as he talks about
1:53:39
cops, and you can see he got a lot of
1:53:41
cops to say nice things. about his company there. And
1:53:45
there's this mythology about police work. And, you know, I
1:53:49
know a lot about cops. I have cops in my
1:53:51
family. And they'll be the first ones to tell you
1:53:54
what you're seeing on 24 and NCIS is absolute crap.
1:54:00
Kiefer Sutherland does not arrive at the last minute and
1:54:03
save you from death. That almost never, ever happens. The
1:54:09
bulk of police work is and they come out and
1:54:14
they draw a chalk mark around your body and they
1:54:16
take a report. They do a lot of paperwork. A
1:54:19
lot of paperwork. That's really, really what it's about. And
1:54:24
no camera is going to stop you from being killed.
1:54:27
And proof of that is there are thousands and thousands
1:54:31
of hours on YouTube and every other platform of people
1:54:35
being assaulted, hit with bricks, crowbars, stabbed all over the
1:54:39
place. And they're all on camera, aren't they? But they're
1:54:42
still injured. and dead. Hey, we report all the time
1:54:46
about how many people are shot in Chicago in a
1:54:49
week, and then the number that have been arrested, oh,
1:54:52
nothing. It's usually 30 to 50 people shot. How many
1:54:56
people have been arrested? Nobody. Yeah. But there are cameras
1:54:59
everywhere. Well, Chicago, they got rid of these shot spotters
1:55:02
because you don't want to know where the... shots are
1:55:04
coming from. No, that's bad data for some reason, I
1:55:08
guess. Oh, this guy sells shot spotters too, I think.
1:55:11
Well, get those in every town. Yeah. That tracks your
1:55:15
exact location in real time down to a few feet.
1:55:19
Because all of you use Google Maps and Uber and
1:55:22
any device that has access to location. When you decrease
1:55:25
surveillance and in effect decrease safety. Bullshit. Where's the proof
1:55:31
of that? Decrease surveillance, decrease safety. Huh? Where's the proof
1:55:36
of that there, Garrett? Yeah, what is the, yeah, I
1:55:39
would love to see the data or why you're saying
1:55:41
just because. Show me that. So you're being watched. So
1:55:44
anybody out there want to, you know, have a camera
1:55:47
on you 24-7 because. It'll make you safer? I don't...
1:55:53
I don't think most people want, although, again, to be
1:55:55
fair, there's a lot of people that are so anxiety-ridden
1:56:00
and... unable to make a decision on their own that
1:56:04
maybe they would want. Like, so if their house starts
1:56:07
on fire, somebody sees them on the camera and is
1:56:10
like, yeah, you might want to leave the house right
1:56:13
now. It's on fire. You're still sitting watching your iPad.
1:56:16
Get up! watching my iPad. I've got better things to
1:56:21
do. What do I do? Yeah. It impacts certain parts
1:56:25
of the community more than others. If you... Oh, wait,
1:56:28
wait, wait. Is this going to tell you that it
1:56:29
impacts the poor communities? Of course. You got it, brother.
1:56:33
That's what's coming next. Oh, yeah. But the guy, he's
1:56:37
smart, but he's not that smart because he makes some
1:56:39
really idiotic arguments in this next segment. If you are
1:56:43
affluent in South Africa, you have nine foot walls, you
1:56:46
have private security guards. There are 600,000 private security guards
1:56:50
in South Africa, more than the military and police combined.
1:56:53
So if you are affluent in South Africa, it is
1:56:55
a beautiful place to live. You are crime free. Oh
1:56:58
no you're not. Crime is simply the cost of being
1:57:02
alive. Now, if you transpose that to a place like
1:57:05
Tokyo, beautiful city, there's a few dozen homicides a year.
1:57:09
whether you go to work at 2 a.m. or 8
1:57:12
a.m. You feel safe. Ha! Stop. Stop. Why would that
1:57:16
be? Why is Tokyo so safe? Because Tokyo is not
1:57:20
paved with cameras. Why do you think that is? Well,
1:57:22
it's got a completely different culture that actually punishes... Yes!
1:57:26
Bingo. Ding, ding, ding. Criminals. Ding, ding, ding. That's the
1:57:31
difference. Let's look at it to pick something that's not
1:57:33
on the other side of the world. El Salvador. It's
1:57:37
not that far away, right? That was, I think, listed
1:57:40
as the most or maybe definitely top five most dangerous
1:57:44
places on Earth. And then Bukele came along and built
1:57:47
this super prison and rounded up all the dirt bags
1:57:50
and said, that's where you're going to stay now. And
1:57:53
now I think it's one of the safest places, certainly
1:57:55
in Latin America, if not around the globe. Gee, proof
1:57:58
positive. do with cameras. Yeah, well, TokyoNetNet says it does
1:58:03
have cameras everywhere, which is probably true now. But again,
1:58:06
it's a different culture. So it's that's the reason I
1:58:10
mean, here in Chicago. Well, I'm right outside. I like
1:58:13
to say, because otherwise people have no idea where I
1:58:15
am. But I am right outside of Crook County. But
1:58:19
this is Mayor Brandon Johnson of Chicago and what they
1:58:23
think about crime and it kind of just is a
1:58:28
good little primer to kind of correspond with this guy.
1:58:33
We cannot incarcerate our way out of violence. We've already
1:58:38
tried that. And we've ended up with the largest prison
1:58:41
population in the world without solving the problems of crime
1:58:44
and violence. The addiction on jails and incarceration in this
1:58:48
country, We have moved past that. It is racist, it
1:58:52
is immoral, it is unholy, and it is not the
1:58:55
way to drive violence down. racist and immoral and unholy
1:59:01
to put violent criminals in jail. But no, if we
1:59:07
have cameras everywhere, Larry, it's going to be fine. You're
1:59:10
safe. It'll be fine. Everybody will be good. Everyone will
1:59:12
behave. There's cameras all over Chicago and people are still
1:59:16
getting shot all the time. Nobody's getting arrested. Why is
1:59:21
that? Whether you go to work at 2 a.m. or
1:59:25
8 a.m. you feel safe. It just doesn't matter. And
1:59:29
so America is this like very interesting... Conundrum in the
1:59:33
middle. We have the law enforcement infrastructure we need to
1:59:37
be safe, yet we haven't made, to me, the most
1:59:40
important decision as a society, which is that safety should
1:59:42
not be a privilege. Safety should just be a right.
1:59:46
Bullshit. Bullshit. Bullshit. Now, there's his big statement, because what
1:59:51
this guy is angling for, really, I believe this, is
1:59:55
a constitutional amendment to add safety to life, liberty, and
1:59:58
the pursuit of happiness.
2:00:00
Really? And it's complete crap. You know, this, this guy's
2:00:04
just horrible and this stuff has to go away. And
2:00:07
that's what he's angry. And in the later iterations or
2:00:10
posts, I should say of what he does on X,
2:00:12
he's now saying it's safety is a fundamental right. So
2:00:16
people, they'll be demanding their rights, the right to safety.
2:00:19
Give me Fox, Fox cameras. That's what this is about.
2:00:22
It's the pitch. Well, he's talking about where you feel
2:00:25
safe. Yeah. It very much depends. on the culture there
2:00:31
are places in the united states that you still feel
2:00:33
very safe to walk up and down main street the
2:00:36
united states was any main street was pretty safe 50
2:00:40
years ago not like now it's changed a lot no
2:00:44
not chiraq and new york and l.a and you're very
2:00:47
familiar with new york and l.a and i'm pretty familiar
2:00:49
with chicago And it's not a picnic. Still nice places
2:00:54
in the city to go, but... But his argument about,
2:00:58
oh, if you're rich, you're safe and happy, not true.
2:01:01
Indicative of that, there's a guy, not a dumb guy.
2:01:05
Steve Wynn, probably the most influential guy ever to fool
2:01:08
around in Vegas, and the most successful. He had a
2:01:11
big casino before he passed away there. Yeah, he had
2:01:15
a big, I don't know if Steve was dead. Is
2:01:18
he dead? Really? He passed away a year or two
2:01:20
ago. Okay. Well, he. He built a house. on 3
2:01:26
Acres 27th Street. feed and I think he spent 110
2:01:30
million on this thing which he could afford you know
2:01:33
beautiful it's just crazy spectacular stuff and you know they
2:01:37
put on the market 10 years ago for around that
2:01:39
price and it finally sold for 45 million. And Because
2:01:47
you can live in the greatest place up on the
2:01:49
hill with nine foot walls, like Garrett Langley said, but
2:01:54
eventually you have to go south or decrease your altitude
2:01:58
and move among the populace and the Vox Populi. And
2:02:02
if what you're seeing is. wire and bars and people
2:02:06
living and hijacking, carjacking, you're not going to want to
2:02:12
live mansion on the hill anymore. And that's what happens.
2:02:16
That's what happens. And that is exactly why they do
2:02:21
it. They're the concept which came out a few years
2:02:23
ago that really made some headlines. I mean, if you're
2:02:26
paying attention, if you're not, then you're not going to
2:02:29
see it. But the whole concept of the 15-minute city,
2:02:31
they called it, where they wanted everybody to live in
2:02:35
the highly populated... Well, you ask yourself why? Well, because
2:02:40
that's already voting the way they want, you know, the
2:02:42
Democrats. Come on in. We're going to. Sure. We're going
2:02:46
to control every. of your life, which is, as we've
2:02:51
learned for the last 19 years on no agenda, what
2:02:54
a lot of this is about, which is, oh no,
2:02:57
they say safety, Larry, but what they really mean is,
2:02:59
well, freedom goes. Of course, yes. And before we get
2:03:05
to a very extended donation segment, people love John C.
2:03:09
Dvorak. As they should. things I just wanted to hit
2:03:14
on the Iran war and then we This is a
2:03:19
CNBC clip talking. a poll which we can bring you
2:03:25
those numbers just to set sanity to this, which I
2:03:31
don't know if he could really do that anymore. Sanity
2:03:34
is such a loss. - Trump was on his way
2:03:37
to Dover, Delaware this morning talked to reporters, insisting that
2:03:41
he has the support of the American people for the
2:03:43
war in Iran and the effort to keep Iran from
2:03:47
getting a nuclear weapon. Here's what he said. Well, Americans
2:03:50
aren't against the war. A poll just came out. Americans
2:03:55
don't want to have gasoline prices, but they're not against
2:03:57
the war. That just came out loud and clear in
2:04:00
a poll. Nobody wants a random. The president also made
2:04:06
a this morning on social media, writing, from this point
2:04:10
forward, any time the Islamic Republic of Iran shoots at
2:04:13
a ship in the strait, whether it be by missile,
2:04:16
rocket, drone, or any other device or weapon, the United
2:04:19
States will bomb and destroy one bridge or power plant,
2:04:23
including those located next to or in the capital city
2:04:27
of Tehran. And before we get to the poll numbers,
2:04:30
as far as targeting the infrastructure, this is what Disney
2:04:36
owned ABC News. What they had to say, how they
2:04:40
feel. President Trump responding with a stark warning that for
2:04:44
every Iranian strike on a ship in the Strait of
2:04:47
Hormuz, the U.S. will bomb and destroy one bridge or
2:04:52
power plant inside Iran. Deliberately targeting civilian infrastructure is a
2:04:58
potential war crime under international law. And this morning, the
2:05:03
real cost of the war is hitting home. this month
2:05:11
alone now the very interesting thing there is these but
2:05:15
one the sound effects are always great yes and I
2:05:19
never really even paid much attention to that before listening
2:05:22
to Adam and John and then it's like you can't
2:05:25
unhear it those nat pops yes and the oh it
2:05:30
might be a war crime well they were careful which
2:05:33
is good because targeting the infrastructure is not a war
2:05:41
crime if there is a military reason behind it, a
2:05:45
military necessity behind it. And part of that is if
2:05:52
you're going to be targeting a place with a bunch
2:05:54
of civilians that... You kind of want to give them
2:05:58
a heads up, but that's fairly easy in the world
2:06:00
we have now. Yeah. I mean, you can put out
2:06:03
the word, you could drop pamphlets, you could do all
2:06:05
sorts of things that are like, yeah, you don't want
2:06:07
to be anywhere near this. So it's not a war
2:06:14
crime. I mean, really, nobody would ever win a war
2:06:17
if you're like, well, you can never hit their power
2:06:20
infrastructure or bridges or anything they need to fight back.
2:06:25
It doesn't make any sense. But the poll that Donald
2:06:27
Trump was talking about, I think it's interesting because polling
2:06:32
is greatly dependent upon the way the questions were phrased.
2:06:40
You can get people to say almost anything that you
2:06:43
want in a poll. There's no question about it. This
2:06:48
poll that Trump was talking about was a McLaughlin poll,
2:06:51
which John McLaughlin works for Trump. So he is the
2:06:57
in-house pollster. With that said, I've followed his stuff over
2:07:02
the last 10 years or so, and he has a
2:07:06
pretty good track record. So I'm not totally discounting. what
2:07:10
he has to say, but you always have to point
2:07:14
out. data is coming from because it's so easy to
2:07:19
manipulate a Sure. The questions that were asked, agree or
2:07:24
disagree, Iran should not be allowed to block, attack, mine,
2:07:30
or extort ships in the Strait of Hormuz. 72% of
2:07:35
the people agree. Only 18% of the people disagree. Agree
2:07:41
or disagree. The United States must finish the job in
2:07:45
Iran once and for all. percent agree 28 percent disagree
2:07:54
hmm last would be on a different topic but only
2:08:00
agree or disagree only United States citizens should be allowed
2:08:04
to vote in elections 82 AGREE. 12% disagree. And finally,
2:08:14
along with that, should voters, voters should be required to
2:08:18
show a photo. a ballot, 78% agree, 17% disagree, which
2:08:24
shows you if those numbers are even close to being
2:08:29
correct. Just how far touched the Democrat Socialist of America
2:08:35
and the other really is. And if they don't pass
2:08:39
that SAVE Act, look out, baby. I know. It's all
2:08:42
fake and gay. It is all fake and gay. Politics
2:08:48
overall is always, but... Well, before we get too far
2:08:52
afield from Iran, I hope I said to this... China
2:08:57
sells weapons to Iran? Do you have that in your...
2:09:00
Oh, yeah, this raises an interesting point, you might take.
2:09:06
President Xi told you that China would not give or
2:09:10
sell Iran any weapons. There's a new report that Iran's
2:09:13
about to get 400 rocket launchers from China. Well, that
2:09:19
would be surprising. I mean, things like that happen, but
2:09:22
that would be surprising. He told me very strongly he
2:09:25
wouldn't partake, but he knows I'd be quite disappointed. Now,
2:09:31
they left out the critical part in the audio that
2:09:34
just didn't come up, but this audio appeared under a
2:09:37
headline, Darren, that said, China to arm Iran with hundreds
2:09:42
of manpads. What's a manpad? a really bad product. Well,
2:09:48
I thought these might only be deployed by the Dylan
2:09:50
Mulvaney division during select days of the month. Wow. And
2:09:54
they're only good for one use only. It must be
2:09:56
properly disposed, right? having a stroke. I saw that, man
2:10:01
pads. Really, what a funny name, okay? And it says
2:10:04
that the contract covers the purchase of between 300 and
2:10:07
400 man portable air defense systems. These things look kind
2:10:12
of like a bazooka, I guess. But I'm wondering if
2:10:16
Xi is screwing with Trump and Hegseth, just naming the
2:10:20
device a man pad. Or maybe there's a shadow war
2:10:23
department. Dick Levine who can say who can say there
2:10:29
is no way to know that is the issue and
2:10:34
The word from Donald Trump was he talked to not
2:10:36
only she, but it was also Putin was included that
2:10:41
both of. agreed not to be helpful to Iran in
2:10:48
any way, shape or form, whether that's true or not,
2:10:52
man, that's, uh, that's impossible to really know. Yeah. You
2:10:58
know, that is, I don't know how you, uh, you
2:11:01
know, how you can prove that one way or the
2:11:03
other. But bizarre stuff going on in the world. This
2:11:09
is why... There always is. It's good for the show.
2:11:12
This is why no agenda can't go away. There's always
2:11:15
something. Always. today including one sir chris wilson coming out
2:11:49
of retirement very exciting very exciting and there's a few
2:11:53
that have no ai in it so people are going
2:11:55
to want to stick around and listen to that And
2:11:59
of course, the treasure part is when you send in
2:12:02
a donation to the show. But part of the talent
2:12:06
as well is the artwork. And man, I can't believe
2:12:08
they're going to let me be the guy to talk
2:12:11
about and pick the art and criticize. The artists are
2:12:14
probably shaking in their boots. Yeah, let them. 1889 winning
2:12:23
art from go Scaramunga. Ah, well done, Scaramunga. Well done.
2:12:29
He is the babe guy. Yes, he is. Just a
2:12:33
beautiful piece of Nancy Dvorak looking quite pleased being in
2:12:39
the middle of a bunch of hot angel babes. Cad
2:12:45
2. I had to find any to criticize with my
2:12:50
inner It would be, ah, the chicks are playing football.
2:12:55
It should have been sumo. Yeah, they should have been
2:12:56
wrestling. But otherwise, just... of beautiful art and Francisco's Garamanga.
2:13:03
I mean, he knows. Is the AI guy winning? images
2:13:09
and videos the videos as 15 second Oh, they're extraordinary.
2:13:18
He's done something run longer, I'd say two, three minutes.
2:13:22
He's like a specialty of sort of Italian-looking movies from
2:13:25
maybe the 50s. He has that sepia look, that tone,
2:13:30
and they're just dynamite. I don't know how he does
2:13:33
it. Some of that stuff is just magic as far
2:13:36
as keeping characters from frame to frame. The old AIs,
2:13:42
it would be a totally different person moved and came
2:13:46
back. But now it's almost like magic. This is where
2:13:50
the AI is really going to be good. Like, hey,
2:13:53
do you want to watch Friends, but you really don't
2:13:56
like whichever actress? Well, you could just swap in a
2:14:00
new one. That's going to be what Scaramanga will be
2:14:04
doing. It's like magic. And in the newsletter, I did
2:14:06
laugh at the Tyler Brown piece, which was the book
2:14:10
that just said bullcrap. Wins you very much in the
2:14:16
JCD vein and I don't think anybody can hear bull
2:14:20
crap at this point and not think of JCD. Yes.
2:14:27
As I said. treasure coming in today a lot of
2:14:31
donations and uh and larry and i i understand finally
2:14:36
what it means when you say the spreadsheet got blown
2:14:39
out. Yeah, staring at that. Whoa. Yes. Again, guy with
2:14:45
one eye here, so with the challenges on here. And
2:14:48
then we'll have to try the, I am not going
2:14:51
to be as fast with the clips as... especially since
2:14:56
I've got to have that on the side screen because
2:14:59
the
2:15:00
Read the spreadsheet is on the big screen. But we
2:15:03
do have a bunch of people to thank today, starting
2:15:06
with Matthew Hosko, who came in from Orlando, Florida, with
2:15:10
$1,088.33. So that's magic numbers and JCD magic numbers. Indeed.
2:15:18
He says, in the morning, John, Adam, and Mimi, I'm
2:15:21
sorry that this is what got me to finally donate,
2:15:24
so I thought it was only appropriate to make it
2:15:26
an Insta night. I was at an In-N-Out. I wish
2:15:30
we had In-N-Outs around here. Oh, yeah, they're great. And
2:15:33
was order number 33. I knew it was time, but
2:15:37
I didn't know that Buzzkill had left us. I was
2:15:40
catching up on the greatest podcast in the universe and
2:15:42
started playing 1888 while working. That's how I found out
2:15:46
the sad news. Please knight me, Sir Matt of the
2:15:49
Flight Levels. To quote John with my favorite of his
2:15:53
catchphrases, John, you really are dynamite. To the Dvorak family,
2:15:58
you are in my prayers. Adam, congratulations to your family.
2:16:02
Cleo is a gift from God. Fair skies and tailwinds,
2:16:07
JCD. Well, thank you, man. Thank you, man. Coming in
2:16:12
next, Alex Mandel with $1,000. different notes so I click
2:16:18
a different button all the magic just kind of happens.
2:16:21
Oh isn't that cool. Sure if it works. Wait, I
2:16:26
shouldn't have said that. Sorry. He says, dear Noah Jenner,
2:16:30
I've been debating doing an instant night for a while
2:16:32
and I kept putting it off because I wasn't sure
2:16:35
if it was really worth it. I was okay living
2:16:39
life as a douchebag and solely hitting others in the
2:16:42
mouth. After all, you were just some guys that I
2:16:45
listened to at work and in the car. Now that
2:16:48
John has passed, I know just how wrong I was
2:16:51
and how important both John and Adam have been in
2:16:53
my life. An unreplaceable staple of entertainment, information, and stories
2:16:59
for the better part of the last decade. Love you
2:17:03
both. Mina and sending love to the Dvorak family and
2:17:06
all of the other products of the No Agenda show.
2:17:10
Jingles, Alec Jones, chemtrails, frogsgay, oh there that has to
2:17:15
be it. See frogs gay. Can I make this bigger?
2:17:20
Maybe. I mean, I see there's a lot of... This
2:17:26
is gonna be such a learning curve. You know, I
2:17:28
could probably just search frogs. Really, Adam is like a
2:17:33
symphony conductor with all these things. I don't know how
2:17:35
he does this. I don't either. It's like magic. It
2:17:38
really is. I don't like them putting chemicals in the
2:17:40
water that turn the friggin' frogs gay! Adam was getting
2:17:46
pretty good, though, with his Alex Jones voice, too, I
2:17:48
will say. Yes, yes. And sure, Alex says, please call
2:17:53
out. Chuck the Trucker. Now that's an interesting name as
2:17:57
well. Douchebag. That was the call out? Yeah, for Chuck
2:18:02
the Trucker was a douchebag. So come on, Chuck the
2:18:05
Trucker, get on. Yeah. And for the roundtable, a bowl
2:18:09
of red Texas-style chili from Green Bay, Wisconsin. That I'm
2:18:13
still scratching my head, Alex, but I'll go along with
2:18:16
you. the red Texas-style chili, and a protein powder white
2:18:22
Russian. So I guess he's staying healthy while getting his
2:18:27
drink on. Not a bad idea. Sir Alex of the
2:18:29
Floyd River Valley. And we thank you for your support
2:18:33
of the best damn podcast in the universe. Sir Lucas
2:18:38
of the Lost Bits came in with $888.88 and just
2:18:43
says, Sir Lucas of the Lost Bits, JCD, you will
2:18:48
be missed. And yeah, that is an understatement. Yeah. Do
2:18:52
you want to take the next one? Sure. We've got
2:18:56
Sir Harrison of the Rednecks from Beaumont, Mississippi. MS is
2:19:01
Mississippi, huh? 888 Hattiesburg, Mississippi. And let's see. What is
2:19:07
he saying? Switcheroo. 500 of this goes to Sir Gopher
2:19:12
Gold. God bless the Dvorak family. God bless the Curry
2:19:15
family. You guys have been such a staple of my
2:19:19
amygdala shrinkage diet. Love you. Mean it. Commodore Sir Harrison
2:19:27
of the Rednecks. you've got Karma. It is magic. It
2:19:38
is. Zerproteus, Newark, Delaware, 888-88. And also, no jingles, no
2:19:45
karma. Well, thank you. Yes. Thank you, sir. Give him
2:19:49
a little double up. That's it. Yeah. Emily and Spiro.
2:19:58
Oh, I'm sorry. Oh, go ahead. Tammy and Spiro from
2:20:02
St. John, Indiana. 526.36 from Tammy and Spiro, longtime listeners,
2:20:10
two infrequent contributors. We love you and JCD. God rest
2:20:16
his soul and good luck in the future. And again,
2:20:19
no jingles. I'm loving these people. Makes it easy, huh?
2:20:23
you've got - when it's only on the same one,
2:20:31
then I don't have to find it. It's just there.
2:20:34
Robert Weber from Trabuco Canyon, California. of that place towards
2:20:41
the resurrection slash reincarnation of john whichever gets him back
2:20:45
he was such an important part someone a little a
2:20:48
fellow cranky old man can relate to it'll be sad
2:20:52
to hear new episodes without his voice we echo that
2:20:56
and uh but he was cranky in such a good
2:20:59
way He was. He really was. And, you know, I
2:21:04
was thinking, thought a lot about him. He was an
2:21:07
acquired taste. The more you heard, the more you liked,
2:21:09
really. And I think something about John that he had
2:21:13
that so few people have, and I'm going to say
2:21:17
he's in the entertainment business because he was for 18
2:21:19
years. John was devoid of schtick. heard him talking, it
2:21:27
was exactly who he is. You know what I mean?
2:21:29
Very few performers, what you hear publicly is not what
2:21:33
he's saying across the dinner table or when he's shaving
2:21:35
his face in the morning. You know what I mean?
2:21:37
It's kind of, there's a touch of a put on
2:21:38
in there. But John was ridiculously honest and authentic, you
2:21:43
know? Absolutely, and there was no jingles in there. It
2:21:47
was Tammy and Spiro were $526.36, Robert Weber $500. You
2:21:55
forgot the amounts. Sorry. karma This is called "Two Old
2:22:01
Guys Get Used to Reading a Spreadsheet." Exactly. You want
2:22:05
to do the next? Sure, this would be Tim Hedrick,
2:22:09
I guess. West Bradford, Pennsylvania, $500. Hi, Adam. I wanted
2:22:15
to say I'm sorry for the loss of your friend,
2:22:17
John. I can't imagine what you're going through along with
2:22:19
his family. I initially thought the news was fake, or
2:22:23
that I read the newsletter incorrectly when it went out
2:22:27
about John's passing. I'm a little late to the no
2:22:29
agenda party, but I was glad to find you guys
2:22:32
when I did. Your chemistry was so great and complimented
2:22:35
each other so well. I really don't know how you'd
2:22:38
move forward. I don't envy your position because naturally people
2:22:41
will be mad or complain about whatever is next to
2:22:44
work together with you. I actually bought a road caster
2:22:49
during COVID and tried to do something with my wife.
2:22:51
I even figured out how to clip stuff and have
2:22:54
sound effects. It was fun and exciting because it was
2:22:56
a new challenge for me. I've owned, operated this auto
2:22:59
body business since 2012 and it sucks. Insurance companies suck.
2:23:04
Yes, they do. battle. That's why you guys were great.
2:23:09
I could get real news from you guys and then
2:23:11
go home and tell my family to chill out about
2:23:13
the doom and gloom. I've since listed my podcasting stuff
2:23:17
on eBay, but would really like to get back into
2:23:20
doing something with it. I'm kind of an idiot. You
2:23:23
had mentioned the hyper-local podcast thing before. Is there somewhere
2:23:27
I can find more information about it? I live. We
2:23:31
have a trans mayor who says some wild things on
2:23:34
the internet. That's Downingtown, Pennsylvania. Good luck with everything moving
2:23:39
forward. I wish you the best, Tim. This guy is
2:23:43
so brave. Doing a podcast with your wife. Adam Curry
2:23:46
pulled it off. A lot of people, that could lead
2:23:48
to divorce. I wouldn't try it. That just would not
2:23:51
be good. My wife would not want to spend that
2:23:53
much time talking to me. And then the things that
2:23:57
I would find entertaining, you'd get that look like, no,
2:24:00
no, that's not for public air. As far as the
2:24:04
hyper-local stuff, I mean, it's... just cover your area. I
2:24:08
mean, that's the beauty of it. You don't have to
2:24:12
go out there with, Hey, we're going to be covering
2:24:14
the whole auto body business or we're doing this. Like
2:24:16
just do a podcast, name it about your town and
2:24:19
start small. Yeah, and if you want to... If you
2:24:23
want to kind of browse or comb for possible listeners,
2:24:28
that silly note, what is it called? Next door. platform
2:24:35
might be a way I mean just about every town
2:24:36
in this in the country I think is listed on
2:24:38
there you could you know plant some seeds there as
2:24:40
a beginning maybe get some stickers or put some you
2:24:43
know the the local grocery stores here I mean we
2:24:46
have a couple that are like the old-fashioned grocery stores
2:24:48
don't they still have like the peg you know board
2:24:51
where you lucky you That's it. If you live in
2:24:54
a small town, it shouldn't be hard. Or just walk
2:24:56
door to door and put a little wire in. Like,
2:24:59
listen to the podcast. Go here. Go to get a
2:25:02
podcasting 2.0 app. Either way, let us know if you
2:25:06
start that up, Tim. Because, I mean, if you need
2:25:08
any help, I can help you out with that kind
2:25:10
of stuff. coming in. No jingles there, so. you've got
2:25:20
Harma. Next on the list, J. Kelly Rapier from Frankfort,
2:25:26
Kentucky, which is $500 was a check and no notes,
2:25:30
so double it up. Thank you, J. Kelly. Karma. Next
2:25:40
is Victor Gregg from Corvallis, Oregon. Okay, yeah, Corvallis, I'll
2:25:47
buy that. I mean, I... I know people every now
2:25:50
and then were like, John can't get the names right.
2:25:53
I'm like, I'm going to be so much worse at
2:25:54
getting the names of towns right. I need to cheat.
2:25:56
I need to look them up. Have Grok give me
2:25:59
an explanation. pronunciation on it but Victor comes in with
2:26:03
409 40 In the morning, condolences from Baron Victor of
2:26:08
the Willamette Valley. I started reading John's columns and seeing
2:26:12
him on panels at tech shows during the 1980s. I
2:26:16
met him more than once prowling the aisles. He was
2:26:19
always good for a hello when I saw him. And
2:26:23
no jingles, no karma, so... you've got Karma. Looks like
2:26:33
we've got Quinterox Inc. of Bradenton, Florida. $350.93. Goodbye John
2:26:42
donation. He was like the father I always admired but
2:26:46
never met. There's a statement. The amount of people. that
2:26:52
were touched by John and I get it. I mean,
2:26:55
we only had a few emails going back and forth,
2:26:57
but was a part of your life for well over
2:27:01
a decade. And I remember going back to him giving
2:27:04
Leo crap, which was always the best part of Twit.
2:27:07
And when he did... The end. it had to be
2:27:12
cranky geeks where he would throw the little thing, like
2:27:17
the card, like David Letterman was. And I'm like, Oh,
2:27:20
it's okay to, you know, emulate things and make fun
2:27:23
of them and, and rip off the bits from other
2:27:26
people and kind of take it and make it your
2:27:28
own. And. Hmm. You get to... Somebody pointed that out
2:27:35
on one of those last two JCD. episodes that you
2:27:39
know he didn't know you but you knew him there's
2:27:42
no doubt about it so people i didn't know him
2:27:44
it's like but you did It seems like he was
2:27:48
the guy we hear in each one of those episodes
2:27:51
that we had over the last 19 years, as you
2:27:53
said, authentic. Which is one of the biggest compliments Larry
2:27:57
ever gave me early on was like, well, your podcast
2:27:59
is authentic. And if you can do that. That is
2:28:03
going to get you way further than trying to... pretend
2:28:07
that you're something else. Good idea. Ray Javier coming in
2:28:11
from Davis, California with $350.58 says, In the morning, my
2:28:17
wife and I were shocked when we heard of John's
2:28:19
passing. He became the father figure we didn't know we
2:28:22
needed. We've been listening to every No Agenda episode since
2:28:25
2021 and will always cherish what we had for twice
2:28:29
a week. Sorry for being a douche for so long.
2:28:33
Don't have to give him a dedouching. You guys put
2:28:36
on incredible performances week in and... and week out, and
2:28:40
the value generated was immeasurable. Whenever we drove up and
2:28:45
down 80 and saw Albany Hill, we always wondered which
2:28:49
house might be John's and thought it was so cool
2:28:51
to hear No Agenda live while passing by. Our deepest
2:28:56
condolences to Dvorak and the No Agenda family. And that
2:29:01
comes from Ray. You've been dedouched. Next one there, please.
2:29:14
All right. This is from Matt S. from Rosedale, New
2:29:17
York. 343.75 I would never find anywhere else. Never underestimate
2:29:52
your impact on us all. From my wife, our little
2:29:56
guy, and I, we want to send our love to
2:29:58
JCD's family.
2:30:00
friends, especially Adam, as this must be incredibly hard. Thank
2:30:04
you for turning me on to the show when I
2:30:06
lived in Hoboken, New Jersey. Sir Smokes-A-Lot, now in New
2:30:10
Hampshire. Sir DJ Fuji, and our dear friend who left
2:30:14
us early and is with JCD, Super Steve. He is
2:30:18
a knight, but don't remember his name. This is my
2:30:21
first donation. As long-time listener, please de-douche me. You guys
2:30:28
helped get me through the chaos of COVID. No jingles,
2:30:32
just five-second pause to remember the cranky old man's voice.
2:30:37
I'll miss hearing it eternally grateful. now a family man
2:30:41
in Queens. Okay, so we're de-douching and then a five
2:30:45
second pause. You've been de-douched. And E&J Electric coming in
2:30:57
from Colorado Springs, Colorado with $333.88. And there's an attachment.
2:31:04
That is a beautiful area. I haven't been there since
2:31:07
I was 10 years old in a place called the
2:31:10
Broadmoor with my parents. And now I probably can't afford
2:31:12
it because I'm a podcaster. Just a beautiful area. And
2:31:16
this was a very interesting donation note because it comes
2:31:20
in, which looks like it's an invoice from his company.
2:31:25
But instead of invoice, it says donation note with a
2:31:27
reference of $333.88. I mean, the whole bit. And he
2:31:31
says ad spot, but it's not really an ad spot.
2:31:34
Howdy, this is Justin Robinson with ENJ Electric, your independent
2:31:37
electrical contractor, proudly servicing Colorado Springs and the surrounding areas.
2:31:42
Why am I yelling? I don't get to pick my
2:31:45
customers, so I thought that it would be nice if
2:31:48
I could occasionally work with the fine people in the
2:31:50
NOAA Gena community. Find us at ENJElectric.com. That's Echo November
2:31:57
Juliet Electric.com. you hooked up. It says, note, I've been
2:32:03
telling myself that I need to get this donation out
2:32:06
before one of you actually finds an exit strategy, dot,
2:32:09
dot, dot. My last donation was a handwritten note with
2:32:13
one crisp hundo read by John back when you would
2:32:16
read everything above 50 bucks. I'm not on the internet
2:32:19
much. My only knowledge of John was no agenda. I've
2:32:22
never seen video clips of him and have only seen
2:32:24
a handful of pictures. Well, you should go look for
2:32:27
some of the videos. They're great. This was a theater
2:32:30
of the mind that I really enjoyed having listened to
2:32:33
him for 15 plus years. My brain was constantly filling
2:32:37
in the blanks. It's nice to hear everyone's stories as
2:32:40
it helps to paint a more complete picture of JCD.
2:32:45
Well, thank you very much, Justin. It is appreciated. You
2:32:49
want to do the next one there, Larry? Yes, we
2:32:51
have Charles Neal from Austin, Texas, 33333. jingle And a
2:33:20
big bowl of it at the round table. Thank you
2:33:23
for your courage. I'd like my night name again to
2:33:26
be Sir Gopher Gold. Slaves can get used to mac
2:33:32
and cheese. Mac and cheese. Mac and cheese. Macaroni and
2:33:35
cheap cheddar melted together. Mac and cheese. Mac and cheese.
2:33:39
Mac and cheese. There's so many clips on here. I
2:33:45
can't believe how many mac and cheese clips there are.
2:33:48
Really? Hot Father, how do you know which one's which?
2:33:50
Chap Williams coming in from Edmonton, Oklahoma. $333.33. via a
2:33:59
check with, I guess, no notes, so no note, no
2:34:03
jingles, and... We can double up. Yeah. You've got... karma.
2:34:14
The Vince Ferro. Oh, no, no address. Just, uh, this
2:34:20
is a truly anonymous one, I guess. 315.85. I guess
2:34:24
that's parts unknown, the epitome of that. I guess so,
2:34:27
yeah. You've got harm line. We got Was Night of
2:34:38
the Baying Coonhound from Burlington, Connecticut. Oh, not far from
2:34:43
Larry's. $288 even says, thank you, JCD. I miss you,
2:34:49
but my hope is to see you in heaven. We
2:34:54
know jingles, no karma. You've got... karma Andrea Ludlam from
2:35:05
Holmes Beach, Florida 280.74 R.I.P. John. you've got Karma. Oh
2:35:22
no, the next one, we need Adam for the reading
2:35:24
of Sir Remco Nida Tivissa. This, I guess. Ooh, look
2:35:30
at this place. Baroness Rotterdam. and uh sir remco knight
2:35:37
of tavissa and from in fairness, Rotterdam, as John's one
2:35:43
said, well, John said it was penis. No doubt. Cause
2:35:48
that's where exactly probably what I would have said as
2:35:50
well. Of course. He says, I had no idea that
2:35:54
a man I'd never met and listened to more than
2:35:56
my girlfriend. Oh, don't tell her that as she herself
2:35:59
pointed out would cause my eyes to leak this often.
2:36:04
Dame tooth. Hola. And I have put John's picture on
2:36:06
the wall of our office for guidance and much needed.
2:36:10
wisdom. And there's a message in Dutch for Adam that
2:36:15
I'm not even going to try. And to Mimi and
2:36:17
the kids, stay strong and thank you for all of
2:36:21
your courage. Well, thank you, Sir Remco. And I'm sorry
2:36:24
for butchering your name and probably city. You've got Harma.
2:36:35
Okay, Manuka Gold from Hudson, Florida, $250. From the Manuka
2:36:41
Gold family, just a donation to keep supporting the show.
2:36:44
We hope Adam has a nice break. And a reminder
2:36:47
that Code Freedom for 20% off is still active at
2:36:51
ManukaGold.com to celebrate America on her big 250th birthday. Well,
2:36:58
thank you. I mean, they actually acknowledged that they knew
2:37:00
we would be the Yahoo's reading and they donated that.
2:37:03
Isn't that cool? Yeah, thank you. I hear their stuff's
2:37:06
really good. I'll have to get me some. Yes. And
2:37:10
coming in next, CJ Schmock from Nantucket. $250 with the
2:37:16
note that says worst exit strategy ever. will be missed
2:37:20
and yeah this is uh this is certainly not the
2:37:23
best exit strategy Darcy Morris of Hanover, Massachusetts, 238.88. This
2:37:33
news sneakily hit me in the feels. Sorry to hear
2:37:36
about JCD. Sending 88.88 plus 50 for each of the
2:37:40
three jamokes uttered since my last donation. Take care, Darcy.
2:37:49
You've got... Karma. Patrick D. Buote from... What's it? Musta...
2:38:03
Let's see. Muska-do-bo-it? Muska-do-bo-it? Harbor? Is that it? Nova Scotia.
2:38:08
Well, I know it's Canada, so at least I've got
2:38:09
that. He says, as I sit at the computer with
2:38:13
a heavy heart, I struggle to type my thoughts and
2:38:15
feelings. Both John and Adam have become mentors to me
2:38:18
over the last six years or so. John was one
2:38:21
of those people you could only come across every so
2:38:24
often in life. I always admired his ability to articulate
2:38:28
his opinions in such a clear and concise manner while
2:38:32
keeping his cool for the most part. Oh yeah, there's
2:38:35
audio clips. Whether I was hearing about another unique career
2:38:39
he had use of a word I had never heard
2:38:43
of, John never ceased to impress me. I had hoped
2:38:47
one day to meet him in person in a way
2:38:49
I feel like I had already done so through this
2:38:53
amazing show. Rest in peace, JCD. Sincerely, Patrick. And he
2:38:58
came in with 23636. And I missed that because of
2:39:01
the name of the city, probably. And you can do
2:39:05
the next one before. David Powers from Bangkapi. I don't
2:39:10
know where this is, Darren. The initials are TS for
2:39:13
the nation. Thailand? What's TH? I don't know. TH. I
2:39:18
should know. Shame on me. David says, hey, y'all, sending
2:39:22
all of the love and my sincerest condolences to... Amazing
2:39:26
listening and reading so many wonderful accounts about John on
2:39:29
NA and X, and the positive impact he had on
2:39:32
so many of us for so many years. There's so
2:39:34
much I want to say, but in honor of John,
2:39:36
we'll do my best to keep it short. I've been
2:39:39
hitting people in the mouth for years, but this is
2:39:41
my first monetary donation, so please de-douche me. I would
2:39:45
also like to ask you for all of your No
2:39:47
Agendas family to help in getting my YouTube channel monetized.
2:39:51
I'm getting there, and every bit counts. cities, mostly Bangkok,
2:39:56
Thailand, and filmed POV walks and motorbike rides partially as
2:40:02
a way to document these cities during these times, but
2:40:04
also to give people from other countries a glimpse into
2:40:07
what other people's day-to-day lives look like. They're great to
2:40:11
have on in the background while you're working for the
2:40:13
ambient environment, but there's always near things to see if
2:40:17
you watch. I have plans to travel more when I
2:40:20
finish my Thai language studies, as well as new series
2:40:23
for the channel exploring cuisines Southeast Asia and beyond. Please
2:40:28
check out my long format videos on YouTube, Go Slow
2:40:31
Faster, and short form videos on TikTok, go.slow.faster, and IG,
2:40:38
Go Slow Faster. I also need karma. I'm sorry. I
2:40:42
also need jobs karma and dealer's choice of a clip
2:40:45
featuring John, please. Love and lit, David Pappy Powers. You've
2:40:50
got... jobs jobs jobs jobs jobs jobs karma Coincidence? I
2:41:02
think not! Hey, did that actually work? You know, I
2:41:05
noticed in the troll room, I totally forgot to count
2:41:08
the trolls! Uh oh. How could I forget to count
2:41:11
the trolls? Oh no, train wreck! Right now, we've got
2:41:14
539 people listening with a peak of 888. So, I
2:41:20
mean, thank you to everybody. Yes, thank you. For coming
2:41:23
out to hear us try not to totally destroy Adam's
2:41:26
intellectual property all in one quick afternoon. It is very
2:41:32
much appreciated. We got those jingles, and what do we
2:41:34
got next? Michael Flynn, I think, from Spokane. Or Spokane,
2:41:39
as they say. Yeah, Spokane, Washington. $218.89 in remembrance of
2:41:46
John C. Dvorak. Then, Climpsy Scaliano with "Parts Unknown." $210.60
2:41:55
followed John since the PC Magazine days, early 90s to
2:41:58
me. I'm still in shock and tear up when I
2:42:01
think about it. The first six hours of tribute were
2:42:05
rough. I get that. I'm thankful for the seven hour
2:42:08
plus hours of clips to make me laugh. Clint C.
2:42:12
Galliano, realtor in South Louisiana. the, uh, with JC, I
2:42:19
didn't know. I knew it was going to hit me
2:42:21
at some point. But it was just at the end
2:42:24
of the pre-show. And again, I know that was him
2:42:27
having some fun with me. Sure. Jonathan Reisman, Chesterfield, Missouri,
2:42:32
$210.12. So sad to hear that JCD is no longer
2:42:37
with us. My deepest condolences to Adam, the Dvorak family.
2:42:40
Now my wife and I listen in twice a week.
2:42:44
Thank you for all you do from Cody. Oh, I
2:42:47
just skipped a line. I'm sorry. My deepest condolences to
2:42:50
Adam, the Dvorak family, so much value from John and
2:42:55
his work. John Wyden from Kodiak, Alaska. $200 says continued
2:43:03
heartfelt prayers for the Dvorak family. My sons introduced me
2:43:07
to the show. Now my wife and I listen twice
2:43:09
a week. Thank you for all you do all the
2:43:13
way from Alaska. That must be fun. Linda DuPartkin of
2:43:17
Castle Rock, Colorado. Oh, look at this. No, no, Linda
2:43:20
LuPatkin. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Hey, Darren and Larry, thanks
2:43:25
for stepping in. Big shoes to fill. Jobs karma. For
2:43:29
a competitive edge with a resume that gets results, go
2:43:31
to ImageMakersInc.com for all your executive resume and job search
2:43:37
needs. That's ImageMakersInc with a K and work with Linda
2:43:41
Lu, Duchess of Jobs and writer of winning resumes. jobs.
2:43:50
John. Good job. Good old Joe Biden. That's exactly how
2:43:57
he normally speaks, too. That's it, yeah. I was expecting
2:44:00
Hillary, but that was even better. It's like an all-random
2:44:03
day. That's the fun. Then Martin Benes came in with
2:44:07
199.02 with no jingles, no karma. So that is very
2:44:13
much appreciated. I think we missed one on the other
2:44:17
one as well. you've got karma. Dame Stacey of Yellowstone
2:44:27
County and the Black Hills. 198.91 in the morning. There's
2:44:31
nothing I can say that already hasn't been said. John
2:44:35
added so much to this world and will be greatly
2:44:37
missed. Love and prayers to you all. Love and light.
2:44:40
Dame Stacey of Yellowstone County and the Black Hills. Then
2:44:45
we have Amanda from Minnesota, Minnesota Nuts with $198.89. Donating
2:44:51
has been on my I'll get to it list. I
2:44:54
never imagined it would be under these circumstances. With deepest
2:44:58
condolences, John was...
2:45:00
Really a fabulous product, toasting his legacy with a terrific
2:45:04
Kirkland wine. Cheers and thank you, Amanda from Minnesota. And
2:45:10
yeah, JCD, I know he cost me money. My wife
2:45:12
doesn't even like drink wine, but anytime he had a
2:45:17
wine tip, it was like, I got to go to
2:45:18
Costco. We can give him his gift. I'm like, okay,
2:45:21
it's always costing me money. Here's one from stirstregalicious19797. IT
2:45:30
morning. My deepest condolences to Mimi, Adam, and all the
2:45:33
No Agenda family. John will truly be missed. NJNK, Sir
2:45:40
Stregalicious. Yeah, I said it right, Stregalicious. And coming in
2:45:44
next, Mark Cram with 188.88, says Adam, Mimi, and family.
2:45:50
Son-in-law hit me in the mouth while he was recovering.
2:45:53
with us after having his appendix removed while on a
2:45:56
business trip in 2020. Ooh, that's no fun to begin
2:46:00
with, but on a trip, that's worse. Haven't missed a
2:46:03
show since. Thank you for all. Love and laughter. May
2:46:06
God bless you and the show. John will be missed,
2:46:09
but his DNA will always remain in the enterprise. It's
2:46:14
a good way to think about it. That is. That's
2:46:16
a cool phrase. Mark Cram. at 88. You're on the
2:46:25
Duke. I'm on the Duke. My mess. Duke of San
2:46:29
Francisco, San Francisco, U.S., of course, 16699. The Duke of
2:46:33
San Francisco is mourning the passing of J.C.D. As Commodore
2:46:38
of the San Francisco Bay, I declare a meetup at
2:46:41
the Duke of Edinburgh in Cupertino. at 5.33 p.m. dot
2:46:47
com. Joseph Stegman, Thousand Oaks, California came in with 128.63
2:46:55
with no note, which is real. I guess it's the
2:46:57
no note that we do the double up karma for.
2:46:59
Yeah, yes. It's karma. Mark McGuff, Benson, North Carolina. Rest
2:47:12
in- Sincere condolences to Mimi, Adam, family, and friends. Started
2:47:17
listening during the scandemic. Going to miss hearing John weekly.
2:47:21
God bless. And the way I kind of thought about
2:47:24
it earlier, that No Agenda had this story a few
2:47:28
weeks back of the girl, she had her license, but
2:47:32
when the flight instructor jumped out mid-flight and was just
2:47:35
like, you know what to do! That's kind of how
2:47:38
I feel today. Lisa Mikulski coming in with 118.89. John
2:47:46
put the C in. cars on the Zephyr, Costco wine
2:47:51
recommendations, and cynicism mixed with charm. John put the C
2:47:56
in cold reads and mispronunciations in the donation segments that
2:48:00
made me smile. and clue and a clever one was
2:48:05
with the January 12th, 2025 horrible tip of the day,
2:48:09
which was a simple search revealed his true age. I've
2:48:13
known since that that something didn't add up. Maybe he
2:48:16
was trying to tell us something. Most importantly, John put
2:48:20
the C in courage as in thank you. courage to
2:48:24
Adam, Mimi, JC, And Brennan, the show Thursday was full
2:48:30
of laughs and tears. Thank you for opening up your
2:48:33
hearts, memories, and raw emotions. the whole of Gitmo Nation
2:48:38
and allowing us to share that with you. My deepest
2:48:41
sympathies to you all as you take on the challenge
2:48:45
to carry on John's legacy. Well, thank you, Lisa. And
2:48:50
I didn't realize the must have been that true people
2:48:53
search that John recommended. His real age was there. We
2:48:55
could have known. Wow. We would have just looked him
2:48:58
up. So easy. Valerie Ray of Puget Sound. Texas 114.69
2:49:06
and... no jingles, just thank you Valerie. You've got... That
2:49:17
also goes for Samuel Thomas Parts Unknown with 105.69. And
2:49:24
Debra... Debra Keenum, 105.35. I eagerly got in my car
2:49:36
Friday morning ready to listen to the No Agenda show
2:49:38
on my way to work. opening and cried. I've been
2:49:42
a listener for over two years. JCD brought humor and
2:49:45
wisdom. He will be missed, but he impacted so many
2:49:49
lives. Absolutely true. Thank you. Andrew Grasso of Mendiola, New
2:49:56
York. My wife talked me into buying a starter home
2:50:00
down the street from her parents and around the corner
2:50:03
from her sisters and aunts. Oh, this sounds like everybody
2:50:06
loves Raymond. The type of home and neighborhood is not
2:50:09
what I wanted for my life, but now I begun
2:50:11
to understand that we will never be leaving with deference
2:50:16
to John C. And his memory, please night me, sir.
2:50:20
Grasso reluctant night of miniola at the round table. I
2:50:24
request Manuka gold, a surprisingly great cheese. I discovered, Oh
2:50:30
no, I'm sorry. It's a, uh, Mary Gouda. Yeah. I
2:50:35
see bad eyes. I saw Manuka gold. That's not right.
2:50:38
I did too. A surprisingly great cheese. that I discovered
2:50:42
from Wisconsin made by a Dutch immigrant. As for the
2:50:46
wine, I'll let John C. make the selection. Oh, it's
2:50:51
cool. Signed, Andrew Grasso. Thank you. Robert Stokes. No address.
2:50:58
10335. Rest in peace. John C. Dvorak. Next one. Michael
2:51:06
Stepnitska. Vienna, Virginia. $100. Indeed, I really miss his analysis
2:51:13
as well as learning what he put the C in.
2:51:17
My condolences to John's family and to you as well.
2:51:21
Well, thank you, Michael. Dita and Jack, Cumberland, Forsyth, Maine.
2:51:28
We were lost during COVID. Then we were found. Because
2:51:31
John and Adam were around. Their deconstruction gives us hope
2:51:34
to understand news and not be a dope. Now John's
2:51:38
crossed the threshold. He will be sorely missed. but the
2:51:42
show must go on or he will be pissed. RIP
2:51:47
JCD. Love and light to all. D-Daw and Jack, Cumberland,
2:51:52
Forsyth, Maine. Felix Komichi comes in with $100 from Farmington,
2:51:58
Connecticut. Rest in peace, JCD. Your memory will live on.
2:52:02
Thank you for the laughter and the memories. Thank you,
2:52:06
Felix. Adam G. Hurst, Heathcote, Australia. Thank you both, Adam.
2:52:13
That's $100. Thank you. part of my daily life for
2:52:17
the past six years, listening every morning on my John's
2:52:21
passing leaves a hole that can never be filled. Rest
2:52:25
in peace, John C.D. Thoughts and prayers to Mimi and
2:52:28
family. John Buell coming in from Vista, California with $100,
2:52:35
no note. So double them up. You've got... karma. Ezra
2:52:48
from Brisvegas, Australia, 94. Hello Adam, Mimi, and family. My
2:52:55
deepest condolences, I've been listening to Adam and John since
2:52:57
2014. Thanks to Grimerica. Please dedouche me, for I have
2:53:02
sinned. John was the father figure I never had. Man,
2:53:05
we hear that a lot, don't we? Never met and
2:53:09
the I never knew I needed. He made me laugh
2:53:12
every episode with his blunt wit and impeccable timing. And
2:53:16
I don't think there will ever be a time where
2:53:18
I'm going to forget. Please play John's spooky DONATE jingle.
2:53:25
He would probably have a chuckle at that. Ezra from
2:53:27
Brisvegas, Australia. Beep. You've got... Donate! Donate! Donate! Karma. Coming
2:53:46
in next, Rose Richardson with 94.82. And no note, no
2:53:53
jingles, no karma. We need the practice anyway. Yeah. You've
2:54:01
got karma. Here's Dame Anne, 94-82. I just found out
2:54:10
about John's untimely demise. And they meant so much to
2:54:13
me during COVID when I found GetMonation and realized. World
2:54:18
gone mad. John's legacy is far-reaching and won't stop at
2:54:21
his mortal passing. Love to all. Dame M. Julie G.
2:54:27
coming in from Brighton, Ontario. 93.88. My condolences to Mimi
2:54:33
and the family and hugs to Adam. I am sad
2:54:36
to hear of John's passing. It's 138.20 Canadian dollars, which
2:54:40
is 88.88 plus $5 for fees. And of course, John
2:54:45
loved the eights. Yes he did. Wendy, no home. No
2:54:52
parts. Parts as known as Darren said. You made an
2:54:54
incredible impression on me week after week. The No Agenda
2:54:57
show. It left an imprint on my heart that will
2:55:00
never fade. Best podcast in the universe. Love and prayers,
2:55:05
Wendy Hilo Holland. Ryan, Caitlin, and Maggie. Bexelsville in Pennsylvania.
2:55:15
That sounds Dutch as well. 9364, which I'm guessing is
2:55:18
8888 with fees. We miss you, John. Praying for you
2:55:22
all. Love, Ryan. Aggie, no jingles, no karma. Well, thank
2:55:28
you. Leith Crooks. No address. I was shocked to hear
2:55:35
of John's passing. My condolences to the Dvoraks, Currys, and
2:55:38
all the producers. I'm about three weeks behind, so it
2:55:41
will be a bittersweet experience listening to his last remaining
2:55:44
shows. The donation box asked for a favorite memory of
2:55:47
John, and apart from his daily lessons in critical thinking,
2:55:50
what sprang to mind was when Adam would make an
2:55:53
exceptional quip that would crack John's scaly exterior. But there
2:55:57
was always a small delay before John's made an outrageous-sounding
2:56:02
laugh in the background. you It would always be so
2:56:05
unique in sound, and I'd find myself rewinding the show
2:56:08
to listen to it again. A testament to the you
2:56:11
two shared, bits that made John laugh would also make.
2:56:16
show, RIP Buzzkill Leith Crooks. Yeah, and I really believe
2:56:21
they just did the show to make each other laugh,
2:56:23
which is kind of what we do as well. I
2:56:25
like it. Yeah, it's good stuff. Charles Weitenheimer? Sounds right
2:56:31
to me. 93-64, no note, no car, so... You've got...
2:56:41
Thank you, Charles. Bill LeClair, very sad to hear about
2:56:46
John's past. Oh, 93, 64, no address. Very sad to
2:56:50
hear about John's passing. Condolences to his family and friends.
2:56:53
He was loved by many and will not be forgotten.
2:56:56
John responded to all four. over the years, one to
2:57:00
explain why he always said my name, capital L, small
2:57:04
a, capital C. He was a big fan of classic
2:57:08
WC Fields, so am I. Rest in peace, John. Bill
2:57:11
LeClair. Edward Yovno coming in with 93.64 and the sad
2:57:18
emoji. Which I feel you. Thank you. Yes. I worked
2:57:28
in a Chicago computer store back in the day. and
2:57:31
we all enjoyed John's PC. articles every month. the mouse
2:57:36
when it first came out either. I almost felt like
2:57:38
I was betraying John when I got my first serial
2:57:40
mouse so long ago. I have followed John's career through
2:57:45
and considered him friend, I will miss you. Elliot Lang.
2:57:50
Yeah. I mean, he didn't say the mouse was not
2:57:53
going to work. He just said there was no evidence,
2:57:55
which there wasn't. I'm backing him on that one. Okay.
2:57:59
Pat Deary came in with... and 64 cents says no
2:58:03
words. Well, thank you, Pat. It is appreciated. surplus or
2:58:09
surplus of the Sir. Plus of the. Read my dono
2:58:16
on show 979. One of my proudest moments is making
2:58:22
him say, me likey. Grateful for JCD teaching me whipsaws
2:58:29
and all the insider media tricks. Also his love, joy,
2:58:31
peace, patience, and of course, courage. Thank you, Sir Plus.
2:58:35
Then Ryan Young coming in with 9364 with no note
2:58:42
in there at all. Okay. Here's Darren O'Hara. Is he
2:58:46
a relative? Henderson, Nevada, 9364. I know this will likely
2:58:52
miss the 1889 cutoff, but things got busy, and I
2:58:56
still wanted to get this donation in. I had been
2:58:59
saving for another executive producer credit, but it felt important
2:59:02
to give something now to honor JCD and the greatest
2:59:06
podcast on earth. I remember listening to John on DH
2:59:09
Unplugged, though for whatever reason, my way to no agenda
2:59:14
until after I saw that TV guy on Rogan during
2:59:19
the pandemic. I'm glad I did. Thank you, JCD and
2:59:23
Adam, for helping me get through this time. media each
2:59:29
week and thank you to the dvorak family for sharing
2:59:32
jcd with no agenda nation john c devore your courage,
2:59:37
Godspeed. You will be missed. ITM, Darren. Garrett Morrison coming
2:59:42
in with 93.64. No note there, so thank you very
2:59:46
much. And then the next one is Sir Dwight the
2:59:48
Knight from Burlington, Ontario. 93.64 in the morning at... Always
2:59:55
John C. Dvorak. Sir Dwight the Knight here kneeling and...
3:00:00
And I couldn't believe the news when I heard it.
3:00:02
And I'm still having trouble. The show will never be
3:00:05
the same. And I will always listen. Well, thank you,
3:00:08
Sir Dwight. You are absolutely correct. Stephen Mullen, 93-64, whether
3:00:15
going for a walk, run, driving, doing errands, or falling
3:00:18
asleep, the No Agenda Show was my go-to podcast since
3:00:21
2020. As a pharmacist, you educated me. Since our institutions
3:00:26
refuse to do so, please de-douche me. Give me a
3:00:29
break. I had ants. You've been dedouched. Then Sir Alan
3:00:41
of Midlothian coming in from Virginia9364 says, it was a
3:00:46
great run for JCD. May he now rest in peace.
3:00:50
Sir Alan of Midlothian. Thank you. Michael Strychars. No address,
3:00:57
9364, and no message. then John Johnson from Goldsboro, North
3:01:04
Carolina. 93-64 says, been a douche way too long. And
3:01:11
long live John C. Dvorak. And we'll give you the
3:01:14
de-douching. You've been de-douched. Forbes Benning of London, Ontario. 93-64,
3:01:27
my sincerest condolences to the Dvorak and Curry families. What
3:01:31
a consolation it has been to hear all the heartfelt
3:01:33
love for John. He touched so many lives, J.C.D. was
3:01:37
with us for so long, that we thought he was
3:01:39
eternal. Well, now he is. Please accept this donation of
3:01:43
8888. Prayers were said for John, real prayers, to wish
3:01:48
him well on his journey to the great meetup beyond.
3:01:51
Godspeed, JCD. Sincerely, Forbes Benning. Surreal. Night of London. Steve
3:01:58
Carrico coming in parts unknown with 93 33 in the
3:02:02
morning. Like many, I came to lean on John's deconstruction
3:02:06
and yours to Adam over the years that unmatched calm
3:02:10
and realism put us all at ease. Thank you for
3:02:14
everything. I'm embarrassed to say, but I'm in need of
3:02:18
that dedouching. Thank you, Steve. And with pleasure. You've been
3:02:25
de-douched. Michael Gilmore of Danville, California says, now that you're
3:02:33
upstairs, $90 rather, now that you're upstairs. Actually, that's the
3:02:36
next one. Because there's two gray in a row. They're
3:02:38
fooling us. Oh, see, that's my color blindness. He said
3:02:41
nothing. Yeah, but thank you, Michael. And then Jackson Capizio
3:02:46
Gilmore came in with 90. and says, now that you're
3:02:50
upstairs, would you ask the owner where the missing newsletters
3:02:53
are and who decided the recipients would be? If he
3:02:59
does not know, have him assist you with the debugging.
3:03:03
You should finally have the ultimate sysadmin privileges. Love, Jackson
3:03:09
Capizio Gilmore. Like I said, 90 bucks, I think. But
3:03:13
that reminded me of the the ham silent key tribute
3:03:17
for John, which was very touching. I mean, this is
3:03:20
the computer guy thing where now you've got the full
3:03:23
system admin. Right. So. If somebody's messing with my computer,
3:03:28
I'll know who it is. Virginia Watts of Ketchikan, Alaska.
3:03:33
Lady Vox. Lady Vox. Hello, Lady Vox. $88.93. Because it's
3:03:39
a prime number with double digits. Yeah. Eric. There's, okay,
3:03:48
there's extra, there's weird characters. Yeah, there's, um, X-N-Y. Y-K-S
3:03:53
and weird zero Y. X-Noy, huh? Yeah, I'm going to
3:03:58
go with Ex-Noy. I don't know. 88, 88. See, you
3:04:02
thought John couldn't pronounce stuff. I really can't. And then
3:04:04
I can't see it, too. Twit donation, please. D-Douche, I
3:04:08
really miss you, John. Thank you for everything you did,
3:04:11
and thank you, Eric. You've been de-douched. Rocket of Brownsboro,
3:04:23
Alabama, 8888. I was shocked to hear of John's passing
3:04:27
and was also shocked to learn he was 80. He
3:04:30
seemed so young, but still one of my favorite OG
3:04:33
boomers. Love and prayers to the Dvoraks and Currys. Rocket.
3:04:38
Paul Weigarn-Schofar, I think, Weigarn-Schofar, 8888, and no, no, thank
3:04:46
you very much, Paul. Here's an interesting one because it's
3:04:52
from my hometown. John Dave of Elmhurst, New York, 8888.
3:04:57
No message. Thank you, John Dave. David Egan from Austin,
3:05:02
Tejas, 8888 says, rest in peace, JCD. Thank you. T-whore.
3:05:10
Thor. Thor with a space. Okay, now that's a Dvorakism
3:05:14
if ever. Yeah, T-whore, Thor. From North Sydney, Australia. Just
3:05:19
got back from vacation and in shock. You two have
3:05:22
been with me since 2008 and always felt like family.
3:05:25
Heartfelt condolences to the entire Dvorak family. I'm devastated. Thor
3:05:30
from Manly, Australia. Thank you, Thor. Dame Mary Paul Stewart
3:05:35
from Seattle, Washington. 8888 in memory. of John C. Dvorak
3:05:40
where the C stands for celestial God bless you John
3:05:45
Dame Mary Paul Stewart thank you Nathan Marshall, no address,
3:05:49
8888. We stand on the shoulders of giants. Very true.
3:05:55
Joseph King coming from Docula, Georgia. 8888. In the morning,
3:06:01
Adam and JCD family. It is with great sorrow I
3:06:05
send in this donation in the memory of John C.
3:06:08
Dvorak. I will keep this note brief so John doesn't
3:06:11
get too grouchy up above, but I hope to express
3:06:15
the immense impact that the No Agenda show has had
3:06:17
on my life. I have been a listener since Adam's
3:06:20
first JRE appearance, but never donated any treasure. Please dedouche
3:06:26
me. You've been dedouched. Media deconstruction, thoughtful commentary, and humor
3:06:37
of the show has been a steadfast companion to me
3:06:40
these past few years and has been such a positive
3:06:43
influence in my life. After meeting my now wife, Anna,
3:06:47
I soon hit her in the mouth and can attest
3:06:49
that it is true that those who know agenda together
3:06:53
stay together. Both of us are devastated at JCD's passing,
3:06:57
and we send love and prayers to his family and
3:07:01
the rest of No Agenda Nation. Find a cheap Bordeaux
3:07:06
in honor of John. Costco should be paying the Boraclan.
3:07:13
Joseph. Andre Harselhorst and Van Den Gorberg of Alphen. Netherlands.
3:07:23
Netherlands, okay. Thanks for everything. R.A.P. John C. Dvorak. 88.88
3:07:29
on that one and on this one from Luis Lancaster.
3:07:34
And it is 8888. Ah, lovely. JCD, where will we
3:07:39
be? Thank you, thank you, thank you, Louise. Sir Jerry
3:07:46
Carl, the Knight of All Things Greasy. Sir Jerry Carl.
3:07:50
Jerry Carl. There we go. How did I miss that?
3:07:53
All Things Greasy, Raleigh, North Carolina, 8888. John and Adam
3:07:58
have brought something incredible to this world. I can never
3:08:00
thank you enough for what John's columns, No Agenda, and
3:08:03
the No Agenda family have given me. God bless you,
3:08:06
Mimi, and God bless the Dvorak and Curry families. Rest
3:08:09
in peace, JCD. Sincerely, Ryan Smith, Sir Jerry Carl, the
3:08:14
Knight of All Things Greasy. Raleigh, North Carolina. And P.S.
3:08:17
Thanks for bringing the word specious back into my life.
3:08:23
And Jordan Frazier coming in with 88.88. Rest in peace,
3:08:28
JCD. The skills you guys have passed on have equipped
3:08:32
me for life, enabling me to recognize the bullcrap. a
3:08:36
truly immeasurable benefit. Well, thank you, Jordan. Dude named Mohammed.
3:08:43
No address. 8888. From dude named Mohammed. Then Scott Penton
3:08:49
coming in from... Tonawanda, New York, 8888. And then Eric
3:08:56
Mackey coming in from Blairsville, Georgia, also with 8888. Gay
3:09:05
Anonymous. From Newcastle-upon-Tyne in Great Britain. 8888. Dear Adam and
3:09:13
the Dvorak family, just listened to Adam's opening in 1888
3:09:16
and it provided a needed release. I was sobbing. Found
3:09:20
out when I read the newsletter, thought it may be
3:09:22
a joke. It's hard to describe what an impact this
3:09:25
has had on me. As an old gray beard named
3:09:28
Ben, I've followed John since his early days on Twit
3:09:31
and Cranky Geeks as he flung those cards. Pew pew,
3:09:34
jingle please. I will miss his curmudgeonly ways, his wit,
3:09:38
and sharp insight. And he just plain made me laugh.
3:09:41
I would like to be knighted, Sir Moor-Bot. call back
3:09:46
to the place I grew up and spent many happy
3:09:48
hours playing as a child. At the round table, I
3:09:51
would like a pint of Riggwelter and a giant Yorkshire
3:09:55
pudding filled with onion gravy, please. Just for random info,
3:09:59
Ickley Moore Bot refers to the unofficial anthem of the
3:10:03
county of Yorkshire in the UK, literally on Ickley Moore
3:10:07
without a hat in the local dialect. It's a sad
3:10:11
tale of a young lover courting the bleak Moore and
3:10:14
his potential death from exposure without the proper headgear. Lovely.
3:10:19
We sang this in primary school. A 737 sized hole
3:10:23
in your heart is truly... thoughts are with you all
3:10:27
soon to be sir sir more bot at anonymous and
3:10:31
i believe this is the jingle I think that's it.
3:10:42
I know there's others. That sounds like pew-pew. Yeah, I'm
3:10:45
spinning. I'm spinning in place. Welcome to the roundtable. Next
3:10:50
up, Sir Rob Barron of Greater Limburg coming in with
3:10:54
8888. Thanks, John, for all the great shows. No jingles,
3:10:58
no karma. Sir Rob Barron of Greater Limburg. Sir Glenn
3:11:03
of Raleigh, North Carolina, 8888. My condolences to Dvorak family
3:11:07
and Curry family. I will surely miss John, but hope
3:11:10
the show continues. Media deconstruction. Thanks, NJNK. Ryan Wolf coming
3:11:16
in from Covington, Virginia, 8888 says, Dear Adam, John's family,
3:11:23
the no agenda donation. I've been following John for over
3:11:26
three decades now. In the early 90s, in the back
3:11:29
of the computer magazines I used to sit and read
3:11:32
at Barnes and Noble, John C. Dvorak was there. During
3:11:35
the golden years of tech TV, before it went stupid,
3:11:38
oh, it did. John was there. On Leo's podcast in
3:11:42
the earliest days, when they still called them netcast, John
3:11:45
was there. The Cranky Geeks, No Agenda, and DH Unplugged,
3:11:50
John was there. the show for so for me John
3:11:55
is still there I think I'll hold those few episodes
3:11:59
for a rainy day knowing that John and Adam will
3:12:02
still be there One of my favorite Doctor Who lines
3:12:05
sticks in my head. The doctor says something like, every
3:12:09
time that you see people happy, you remember how sad
3:12:12
they're going to be later, and it breaks your heart.
3:12:16
What's the point of being happy now if they're just
3:12:18
going to be sad? And the answer, of course, is
3:12:21
because they're going to be sad later. This feels true
3:12:26
right now. We always got the happy. Now it is
3:12:29
time for the sadness. I never got to meet John
3:12:32
or any of you, never shook hands or shared a
3:12:34
meal. But after all those years of listening, John and
3:12:38
Adam allowed me to feel a little. part of their
3:12:42
family, like a little part of their family. John's story
3:12:45
is the way he talked about technology and the industry
3:12:48
and the bits about everyday life. Let me share in
3:12:52
some of the happiness and camaraderie. It's a real gift
3:12:55
and one that death doesn't get to take away. Through
3:12:59
all the crazy years, the endless news cycles, the pandemics,
3:13:02
the AI panic, the climate alarms, the constant sense of
3:13:06
imminent doom, John and Adam were a steady hand on
3:13:11
the tiller. especially during the 2020 COVID times when the
3:13:15
media was pouring out panic and fear and doubt. The
3:13:19
two of you were a stabilizing voice of reason. That
3:13:23
meant a great deal to me. And I imagine it
3:13:27
did for a lot of other people too. I can
3:13:30
ditto that. And that's Brian Wolf. Thank you very much.
3:13:36
Okay, Jeffrey Sarkissian from Dollar Day or Mule in Canada.
3:13:42
8888, my deepest sympathies. Scott Simon jingle, please. Don't ask
3:13:49
me to speak the... Scott Simon. Don't ask me to
3:13:54
speak French. That's not going to happen. Suffering succotash. I'm
3:14:00
Scott... Simon. Gary Casper, Tulsa, Oklahoma, 8888 with no note
3:14:13
then. Bob. Rathmel from Santa Isabel. Is that the California?
3:14:20
Yes. 88, 88 as well. Thank you very much. Spencer
3:14:27
from San Francisco, 80.08. I too have never before cried
3:14:32
like this about someone I never met. Six hours a
3:14:35
week. What a gift your show and John has been
3:14:38
for me. The clip show today was very healing. God
3:14:41
bless from Spencer and SF. And then there he is,
3:14:45
Kevin McLaughlin from Concord, North Carolina, with 8008. That's right,
3:14:51
1890 B-O-O-B, Donation Archduke of Luna, Lover of America, and
3:14:59
boob.
3:15:01
John Albertini, Albarini, $70.26. No place, no message. Chris Dumanor
3:15:08
from Brooksville, MD. Mary, yes. I need to go back
3:15:15
to geography school, I guess. He says, thank you for
3:15:19
substituting. I am a mother pheasant fucker. I pluck mother
3:15:24
pheasants. I am the most pleasant mother pheasant plucker to
3:15:29
ever pluck a mother. See, I guess he wants to
3:15:31
attest the new guy. and do tongue twisters and... You
3:15:36
did it well. Les Tarkowski of Kingman, Arizona. I know
3:15:43
that town. It's pretty cool. $60.06. No message. That's that
3:15:49
old Route 66, isn't it? Oh, it's a great town.
3:15:51
It really is cool. at Disney 6006, maybe. Christopher Lee
3:15:57
coming in with 5940. and family of JCD. Thank you
3:16:03
for your dedication to the show. stories and thoughts on
3:16:07
what's happening each week but hope the show continues on
3:16:10
in your memory sorry it's only 88 88 aussie dollar
3:16:16
bucks oh don't be sad about that it's a beautiful
3:16:19
thing thank you and supporting the best damn podcast in
3:16:24
the universe. Surprise Night of Astonishment from the Yukon, Oklahoma,
3:16:30
U.S., 5444. No message. Nathan Gwynn of Jackson, Tennessee, 5272.
3:16:37
No message. Foster Birch of New York, New York, 5272.
3:16:42
No message. Then Philip Koster coming in from Rosendahl, Netherlands,
3:16:47
5272. Sorry to hear of John's passing while on holiday
3:16:52
in China. I really enjoyed his contribution. You can help.
3:16:58
with this loss. Well, thank you, Philip. Abraham Roots, Sunnyville,
3:17:02
California, $50.88. No message. And then we have the 50s
3:17:09
here. We have Aaron Weisgerber from Bend, Oregon with 50.
3:17:16
Wow, do you want to take that one? Katrian Van
3:17:21
Tugel, I think so. go with that maybe it's fake
3:17:24
my my pronunciation that is rotterdam for $50. Steven Streeter,
3:17:33
South Jordan, Utah, $50. Mike Toll, Memphis, Tennessee, $50. My
3:17:39
thoughts are with you, Adam. Rest in peace, John. Paul
3:17:44
Nilsen-eeson, uh, Nidgeson. $50. Yeah. Terrence Clark, Jacksonville Beach, Florida.
3:17:54
$50. Joshua Johnson, Omaha, Nebraska. $50. Nathan Noel from Netherland,
3:18:03
Texas. Nederland, Texas. $50. Sounds good. Tony Lang, Castle Pines,
3:18:09
Colorado. $50. Oh, New Brunswick, New Jersey. $50 and birthday
3:18:16
July 25. And Sir Michael from Shnomish, Washington. That's out
3:18:24
by Memrose, I think. Yeah. Coming in with $50 in
3:18:28
that. another very touching list. I mean, I love hearing.
3:18:35
is remembering about JCD and all of the good things
3:18:41
that they har-- you But man, you want to talk
3:18:45
about leadership? There is no doubt leaving a huge legacy
3:18:52
behind. Yeah. So now we do the, I guess, birthday.
3:18:58
We got meetups. We got nightings. Nightings. And for the
3:19:05
nightings, we have a layaway night here. So there was
3:19:13
no name in here. I've been at 3333 since 2020.
3:19:16
I got my dameship. I think... One month in, my
3:19:22
husband should be a knight. Can Bruce be Sir Brewikey
3:19:28
of Indy and have Chicago style and a spicy red
3:19:32
hot sausage at the round table if still applicable? a
3:19:39
make good nighting on episode 1888. I achieved knighthood with
3:19:42
a 333 donation. I request a jingle that didn't get
3:19:45
played. I wanted to. Yeah, no, I hear John and
3:19:53
the jingle in my head sometimes. I or anyone around
3:19:57
me says, yeah, no. Is there, yeah, no jingle? Hmm,
3:20:02
let's see here. There's a Leo. Yeah, no. Yikes! No,
3:20:15
that's not... No, that's not... I apologize. I don't have
3:20:20
the vast knowledge of these clips here. I also want
3:20:26
to note a change in my knighthood. I requested to
3:20:30
be called Sir... Night of the Loess Hills, but that
3:20:36
was hasty and I'm not technically in the Loess Hills
3:20:40
and I had to get my note in quick so
3:20:41
if a change is possible I'd like to be known
3:20:43
as Sir Loudneighbor Night of Winter G- be greatly appreciated.
3:20:50
He's from Omaha, Nebraska. for Chris Fulford and he wants
3:20:59
a mud flat report jingle and I don't yeah I'm
3:21:05
not sure there's nothing with flat or mud oh there's
3:21:12
a report hmm there's a I mean, there's a weekly
3:21:20
hooker report, but I don't have a... Put that in
3:21:22
instead. That'll work. Is that just as good? I don't
3:21:26
know. It's the week. Oh, my. I love it. That
3:21:40
had to do something with JCD, and it had to
3:21:42
be. I don't even remember that one. How far back
3:21:45
does that go? I like that. It's good. First off,
3:21:48
I would like to give my deepest condolences to the
3:21:50
entire Dvorak family, knowing how much John meant to so
3:21:54
many that didn't share his name. I can imagine what
3:21:57
kind of solar system-sized hole that has been left at
3:22:00
the family table. I will keep every member of the
3:22:03
No Agenda family in my prayers. as y'all sort out
3:22:07
the after onward. Mary J. more in the hundreds. I
3:22:16
had just recently lost my father to unexpected health concerns.
3:22:20
We're sorry to hear that. The show quickly filled a
3:22:23
hole that I didn't know was there. Two men who
3:22:26
knew stuff and were happy to tell me all about
3:22:29
it. I was hooked immediately. I started out not caring
3:22:32
too much. because he was such a buzzkill. I was
3:22:36
all in with all the crackpot stuff Adam brought for
3:22:40
the second half of show, and I couldn't stand it
3:22:43
when John... deep dive. As I aged from a young
3:22:48
man to a proper adult, in quotes, listening to the
3:22:51
show, I began to see the wisdom in a lot
3:22:53
of what John had to say and began to actually
3:22:56
look forward to what his thoughts would be on many
3:23:00
subjects, no matter that I'm not, no doubt I'm not
3:23:05
the only one. Over the many years of having John
3:23:08
and Adam at my side, as I'm driving around town,
3:23:11
fixing houses and ACs, I have probably picked up more
3:23:14
worthwhile, life wisdom than I have ever gotten from the
3:23:18
people who should have gave it to me when I
3:23:20
was younger. I was always for some reason that never
3:23:24
clicked in my head as value. Yes, I am a
3:23:28
douchebag. Oh, we got to do a... Uh-oh. That's a...
3:23:31
Yeah, we got to de-douche. He douched. I always measured
3:23:40
my value. some of the metrics that Adam likes to
3:23:43
mention. I'm mildly introverted, so I rarely use any info.
3:23:48
the show in general conversation. savvy enough to profit from
3:23:53
the information. ever came to feeling compelled to donate was
3:23:58
when the Ant song made its debut. That's such a
3:24:01
great song. this for granted and I'm mess that it
3:24:07
took the passing of one of my all-time favorites. to
3:24:11
really understand that. I'm also one of the maybe not
3:24:14
so few people that actually got the newsletter but never
3:24:18
opens it, so I was blindsided by that truck that
3:24:22
John loves so much when I opened my podcasting 2.0
3:24:26
compliant app and saw the cover art. I'm man enough
3:24:31
to admit that I cried for at least two hours
3:24:33
in my work van on Friday. I feel you, brother.
3:24:37
When John made it home from the hospital, I realized
3:24:40
how important you guys are to my life, and I
3:24:42
promised myself that I would get on. As soon as
3:24:46
I got my finances in order. Well, John, being the
3:24:49
master that he is, got me to pull out of
3:24:52
my savings account to make this palindrome instantite donation of
3:24:57
$108,001 plus fees in his honor. I still plan to
3:25:04
get on that recurring program at some point, but for
3:25:06
the time being, please, oh, don't de-douche me. Wait, wait.
3:25:10
And if you've already de-douche me, then I preemptively call
3:25:13
myself out as a douchebag. I love the No Agenda
3:25:17
producers. I really do. Really? We have to knight you
3:25:22
today and... Douchebag. twice i'll probably return to my douchebaggery
3:25:28
for a while seeing as residential hvac mechanics don't make
3:25:33
as much brother. Yeah. The Lord provides all. So I
3:25:45
am perfectly happy with everything already at the round table.
3:25:48
Thank you. For my night name, I would like the
3:25:51
moniker to be Sir Christopher the Dog-Headed. For jingles, I
3:25:56
have either or request. Mimi, if you are still in
3:26:01
John's studio. one last mudflats report for the old time's
3:26:05
sake. If you already have the studio sealed as a
3:26:08
time capsule to open in 30 years. You know, I
3:26:11
could actually see John requesting that. Oh, yeah. Then I
3:26:14
would like... also known as a moment of silence for
3:26:19
the legend that will always be John C. Dvorak. Thank
3:26:26
you for all. Thank you all for everything you do
3:26:31
for Gitmo Nation. Love is lit. And we have the
3:26:39
nightings to do. So, I mean, did you get a
3:26:42
sword for the nightings? I did not. Oh, well here.
3:26:48
Oh, thank you. I'll try. I'll take that one. Yeah.
3:26:49
Give me that one. Oh, that's nice. And we've got
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a whole list here. We've got. Jay Hall becoming Dame
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Uliani. Mira Keck becoming Dame of Thai Chicks. Matthew Hosko
3:27:04
becoming Sir Matt of the Flight Levels. Alex Mandel becoming
3:27:09
Sir Alex of the Floyd River Valley. Charles Neal, Sir
3:27:13
Gopher Gold. Andrew Grasso becoming Sir Grasso, Reluctant Knight of
3:27:18
Mineola. Anonymous becoming Sir Moor Bat Ot. Colin McKeown becoming
3:27:23
Sir Moor Bat Ot. Sir Loudneighbor Knight of the Winter
3:27:27
Quarters, Bruce becoming Sir Brewakie of Indy and Chris Fulford
3:27:33
becoming Sir Christopher of the Dogheaded. And what we need
3:27:39
you to do then is... Come on up. Everybody on
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the stage. Is this stage even big enough? I think
3:27:48
so. We want to pronunciate you as knights and dames
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3:27:58
if I have the proper coverage to do that, but
3:28:02
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3:29:09
the one villain guys yeah the villain guys to to
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do that for you and then Couple of birds. We
3:29:19
have George O. On July 25th. And Arno would like
3:29:26
to wish Sebastian a very happy birthday. He's turning 35
3:29:31
on July 30th. And we hope y'all have a darn
3:29:36
good time. And yeah, then there's me. Yeah, connection is
3:29:55
absolutely protection when it comes to the no agenda meetups.
3:30:00
And there is a long list of them coming up
3:30:03
before we get to the Spicewood meetup report. We have
3:30:07
Thursday, July 30th. Well, that's today. The North Idaho Sanity
3:30:12
Brigade summer meetup at 5 p.m. Pacific at Trains End
3:30:17
Brewery and the Brick Oven Pizza in Coeur d'Alene, Idaho.
3:30:22
And the organizer, Sir Scott the Jew. July 30th. Oh,
3:30:28
I'm sorry. Perfect. Yeah, if you can do that, I'll
3:30:29
grab the other audio file here. Sure. July 30th, today,
3:30:33
North Georgia RIPJCD meetup at 6 o'clock Eastern, Cherry Street
3:30:38
Brewing in Alpharetta, Georgia. Organizer, Sir Bob. 30 July, urgent
3:30:47
pour out one for JCD meetup, 6 p.m. Eastern, Saints
3:30:51
and Scholars, Raleigh, North Carolina, organizer J.D. Jeffers. Want me
3:30:56
to keep going with these, Darren? Yes, if you could.
3:30:58
Okay. On Friday, July 31, Abe's Bay Area Exit Strategy
3:31:03
Meetup at 5.33 p.m. Pacific, the Duke of Edinburgh Pub
3:31:08
in Cupertino, California. The organizer is Abe. On also Friday,
3:31:13
the 31st, J.C.'s celebration of life at 6 p.m. Central
3:31:17
at the Barley Oak in Mandeville, Louisiana. Organizer is Dame
3:31:22
Rachel. Also on Friday, the Calgary meetup at 7 p.m.
3:31:26
Mountain. That's the Lenox Irish Pub, Calgary, Alberta, Canada. Organizer
3:31:32
is Melvin Gibstein. Saturday, August 1. Remember and celebrate JCD
3:31:38
at 2 p.m. Eastern at the March 1st Brewing Company
3:31:41
in Cincinnati, Ohio. Organizer is Baron Foxhat. Sunday, next show,
3:31:48
August 2. JCD and Memoriam at 3.33 p.m. p.m. north
3:31:54
of Toronto time. All-star wings and ribs in Vaughan, Ontario,
3:31:59
Canada. Organizer is Bishop. Yeah, then there's a long other
3:32:03
list of things coming up from all over the world,
3:32:06
from Ketchikan, Alaska, to Oklahoma, to Australia, to Texas, to
3:32:13
Florida, to Thailand, and even the UK, all over the
3:32:18
place. Just go to noagendameetups.com for that information. And we
3:32:22
do, have a meetup report, the JCD meetup from Spicewood,
3:32:27
Texas on July 25th. This is Logan from Spicewood. It's
3:32:34
my first meetup and I'm happy to be here, but
3:32:37
sad to see John go. He brought so much insight
3:32:41
and knowledge and entertainment the past few years that I've
3:32:44
been listening and I will continue listening as much as
3:32:48
I can. I brought my three human resources here that
3:32:50
you'll hear on this and our admission here costs $33.30
3:32:57
today. It all comes together. Chickens are going to be
3:33:01
the best thing in the world. Don't eat me, Bo-Dyden.
3:33:04
You're scary. So scary. Love and lit from the Turner
3:33:09
family of New Braunfels, Texas. We are so excited to
3:33:13
have been here today to enjoy this lovely day meeting
3:33:16
some super cool people in no agenda royalty like Sir
3:33:19
Ducifer and Brian with an eye who has merch and
3:33:26
and Scott and it's been wonderful with all of our
3:33:29
families and friends in this beautiful day and you created
3:33:32
this John and it's beautiful and we love you for
3:33:35
it we're gonna miss you and this is devastating here's
3:33:37
our son Holden I just want to pray that the
3:33:40
Lord be with your family and that he blesses you
3:33:43
abundantly and infinitely. Hey, John, I was reading your columns
3:33:46
when I was in middle school in the mid-80s. I
3:33:49
still agree that OS2 was better than Windows. I've watched
3:33:52
you on CNET and Tech TV, and I've listened to
3:33:55
you on No Agenda for the last 15-plus years. You
3:33:58
will be missed. I don't know how I'm ever going
3:34:00
to know what Costco wine to buy for my wife.
3:34:02
John, we love you and miss you, and I hope
3:34:05
they give you a hoodie up in heaven. This is
3:34:07
Viscount Scott of the Armory. And Keeper Christine. Saying farewell
3:34:13
to our great friend John. On our 10th wedding anniversary,
3:34:17
we took the jaunt to California and berated John. And
3:34:22
I actually had JCD Jr. to get him to go
3:34:28
out to lunch with us. So we got to spend
3:34:30
an entire day with lunch. And surprisingly, one of his
3:34:33
favorite topics at lunch was his Android phone. Things changed.
3:34:37
We even got to see... The Lexus. Life's not going
3:34:41
to be the same. Life will go on. My prayers
3:34:45
are out to the family, John, Adam, and everybody. We're
3:34:50
going to miss you, John. Hey, this is Sir Brian
3:34:52
with an I. We miss you, John. We're out here
3:34:55
celebrating your life, doing some swimming and grilling. I was
3:35:00
at the store this morning getting food for everybody, and
3:35:03
I wanted to see if I could find something with
3:35:05
a 33 on it, like a cool bottle of hot
3:35:08
sauce. something but the only thing I found was a
3:35:11
33 pack of maxi pads and I figured he already
3:35:14
had enough to eat. Hey John, Adam definitely I don't
3:35:22
know if this is more for John or Adam at
3:35:24
this point because... We have a wealth. of stories and
3:35:35
advice. and information from John going back 18 years and
3:35:41
that's what we should be celebrating. We love you guys
3:35:44
and we're glad and this is way too long. So
3:35:47
Brian was looking at me like, yeah. This is not
3:35:50
making the cut. Would you agree? That's probably where I'm
3:36:00
going to end. In the morning! Connection is protection. And
3:36:34
this is the reason why. we are filling in and
3:36:38
having a train wreck because you just couldn't have silence
3:36:42
for a few weeks. So we appreciate everybody kind of
3:36:45
following along with us. When we were talking to Adam,
3:36:47
Larry's like, yeah, you know, it could be a train
3:36:50
wreck. And he's like, I expect it to be. That's
3:36:52
the fun part of it. And part of what they
3:36:55
do is doing an ISO for the end of the
3:36:58
show. And so I have a few here that I
3:37:02
thought might work. And one is this one. playing your
3:37:07
harpsichord, citizen, everything is well. Which, after this show, they
3:37:11
might need that. The only harpsichordist I ever knew was
3:37:15
Lurch from The Addams Family. That was a great show.
3:37:18
Yes, it was. Or I'm thinking... Even though it's long
3:37:23
and it wouldn't be something that Adam would do. It's
3:37:25
too long. I think this might be the twofer to
3:37:29
end today's show. You're so fucking fired. That's not AI,
3:37:37
that's real, but I think that may be what we
3:37:42
need to do. But we thank everybody for hanging out
3:37:48
with us. It's been... a a whole lot of fun
3:37:52
and we'd have uh let me i'm if i can
3:37:54
find i've loaded everything up adam makes it look easy
3:37:58
i swear the guy looks he makes it look easy
3:38:01
he's a sorcerer he is He is also from the
3:38:05
future, no doubt about it. Yeah. The next thing coming
3:38:09
up on the Mighty No Agenda stream is curated by
3:38:12
Sir Ryan Bemrose. Is DH unplugged? remembering jcd so you
3:38:18
want to stick around for that one We have end
3:38:22
of show mixes from Sir Chris Wilson. He's out of
3:38:25
retirement. I'm excited. Leo LePuke, Sir Ty, and Secret Agent
3:38:32
Paul. All of, I think two, three of those, I
3:38:37
think are no AI, or maybe all of them. So
3:38:39
that is very much appreciated. when the producers take the
3:38:44
time to, uh... to do the real thing. Thanks for
3:38:48
watching! Until next time, coming to you live just outside
3:38:52
of Chirac, right here in FEMA Region 5. In the
3:38:56
morning, everybody, I am Darren O'Neill. And from pretentious Connecticut,
3:39:02
I'm Larry Blydener. We'll be back here on Sunday. Yeah,
3:39:06
please join us and remember us at noagendadonations.com. Until then,
3:39:12
adios, mofos and such. The best podcast in the universe!
3:39:24
Adios, mofo. As you know, boobs are proof men can
3:39:39
focus on two things at once. That's a good one.
3:39:43
I like that one. That's a good one. It's observation.
3:39:45
Yeah, it's observation. young and lovely the girl from gitmo
3:39:55
nation goes walking and when she passed Each goat she
3:40:00
passes goes. When she walks it's like her samba With
3:40:08
jiggly boobs and small amygdala When she passes each goat
3:40:14
she passes goats Oh I want to give her some
3:40:22
karma What a night has so badly... I go and
3:40:36
ask for a num Would she write on some paper
3:40:42
for me? I read it back, she wrote 33. ♪
3:40:47
Tall and tan and young and lovely ♪ ♪ The
3:40:51
girl from Gitmonay, she goes walking ♪ ♪ But when
3:40:55
she passes, she doesn't see ♪ My douchebaggery. ♪ 'Cause
3:41:04
I listen for free ♪ Is you just eating? light
3:41:17
the world up with his scowl. ♪ Could make you
3:41:25
laugh out loud ♪ ♪ By listening to him grouch
3:41:30
and growl ♪ ♪ Now it hurts to know as
3:41:32
he lees through that door ♪ ♪ Acknowledging that there's
3:41:36
no more to for- ♪ ♪Same without two♪ It's gonna...
3:41:49
Same again. same as Gather around Gitmo Nation, let me
3:42:04
tell you the tale of a man born in 1952.
3:42:09
Now you cannot doubt that, Dave, because the New York
3:42:11
Times reported it, so therefore it must be true. Regardless
3:42:16
the year, it was April 5th to a mom who
3:42:19
raised him right, always aware of the threat of the
3:42:23
Chinese to their toilet paper. The man, the myth, the
3:42:26
legend, John C. Dvorak, J.C.D. From El Cerrito High School
3:42:31
to Berkeley College, though in the belly of the liberal
3:42:34
beast, he emerged wiser than most, his eyes still open
3:42:43
to see. Kawasaki trickle. No matter how cold the weather
3:42:49
may have been the Casanova to all would approach the
3:42:52
ladies as only he could with his classic pickup line
3:42:56
that always worked If you need proof that it worked,
3:43:03
look no further than Mimi. John C. Dvorak, where the
3:43:07
C stands for crankiest of geeks, where the C shows
3:43:13
his discerning taste in clip of the day, where the
3:43:19
C could stand for clip in the whipsaws or chick
3:43:23
magnet, where the C stands for Colonel of the Commonwealth
3:43:29
of Kentucky. The polymath of all men, he has done
3:43:33
it all, be it summer jobs, a construction, protecting us
3:43:36
from climate change. As a pollution inspector, he excelled. He
3:43:39
knew crude oil from the heavy sweet of South America
3:43:42
to the light sour of the Middle East and all
3:43:44
the hydrocarbons they emit. In the end, the only reason
3:43:48
San Francisco still has mudflats today is his diligent, watchful
3:43:52
eyes. Remember, knights and dames, he did all this while
3:43:55
the Zephyr rolled by, fighting off Barbara Boxer's advances each
3:43:59
day. Later, he would conquer all technology, be it InfoWorld,
3:44:03
PCMag, MarketWatch, We love you, John. You're gone too soon.
3:44:34
John C. Dvorak, where the C stands for choosing tip
3:44:39
of the day. Created by Dana Brunet. The C stands
3:44:46
for choosing stocks with Horowitz. S.C. stands for Cosmo.
3:45:00
Now let's gather at the round table, knights and dames,
3:45:02
one last time for some mutton and mead. We've shed
3:45:06
our tears and now it's time to do as JCB
3:45:08
would want us to. Because we all know if John's
3:45:11
ghost were here today, there's only one thing he would
3:45:14
say. Donate! Donate! What day of the week is it
3:45:23
today? What color tie are you wearing? What color is
3:45:31
the carpet in front of you? The advice of counsel
3:45:35
I respectfully decline to answer based upon my rights under
3:45:39
the Fifth Amendment to the Constitution. Do the Fifth Amendment.
3:45:45
Do the Fifth Amendment. That's it. FUNNELS GOOOOO- Do the
3:45:53
Fifth Amendment. Do the Fifth Amendment. Whatever you do Do
3:45:58
the shift. Do it. Do the shift. I respectfully decline
3:46:02
to answer based upon my rights under the Fifth Amendment
3:46:05
to the Constitution. Well, nothing says honesty like taking the
3:46:10
fifth, huh, Doc? Dr. Fauci, thanks so much for joining
3:46:20
us. Good to be here, Bruce. The best podcast in
3:46:24
the universe! Adios, mofo. You're so fucking fired.