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1894: Fever Concerns

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*crickets* It's the No Agenda Show with your hosts, Darren
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O'Neill and Larry Blydener. In the morning. It's Thursday, August
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13th, 2026. This is your Gitmo Nation Media Assassination episode
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1894. And we are broadcasting live from just outside of
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Chirac. Don't need a rain stick in FEMA region number
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five. In the morning, everybody. I am Darren O'Neill. And
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from the pretentious Connecticut shore, I'm Larry Blydner, keeping commies
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and creeps at bay with my scimitar of truth. It's
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Darren and Larry. In the morning. Yeah, thanks to Jess
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Baker for that intro. I think we need maybe a
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little longer. Yeah, maybe a little more underpinning for... in
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that spot but I like it the voice sounds like
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some cyborg from Battlestar Galactica it's like did James Earl
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Jones do any voices for the Batman I know he
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did Darth Vader but there was yeah I don't know
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I don't know might have he was a busy guy
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it has that vibe to it yeah I like him
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best as Thulsa Doom Conan yeah But the podfather was
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very clear, got to get rid of that fake and
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gay intro. So we're going to be trying out a
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few, and Jess Baker came in with the best. All
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I can say, if you can extend that a little
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bit, Jess, give us a little more music at the
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end there. Let's just reverse it, make ours gay and
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fake. It's a whole new way to go. Yeah. But
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I'm happy to be here because, again, the weather tried
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to take me out on Monday. Was that Monday, Tuesday?
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Yeah. Were you at power outages or no? Luckily, no.
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Our power stayed on. Most of the town around us
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seems to be out, which is a kind of interesting
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thing. But it all depends on which trees that didn't
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fall down in the earlier storms. Sure. Look at the
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draw. Because this was a derecho. I mean, Max Velocity,
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that's a word I learned from him. A derecho came
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down from Iowa into the Chicago area and... Basically, that
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just means a hurricane that is inland, more or less,
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that type of wind, straight line winds, rather than the
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swirling that you get with a tornado. Although we also
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had a tornado, so that started like maybe a mile
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from north of here and went south. A couple miles
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to the east, and they said that was about 300
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yards wide and just cut a nice sloth through. Oh,
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slicer, 300 yards. It's nothing in Sky Talk. I know.
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It's like, whoa. It was probably the worst sloth. sounding
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storm because usually you know the things go off you
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know bad thunderstorm tornado whatever it is okay you'll kind
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of meander downstairs if you have to usually not into
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the basement this one was like okay go into the
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basement now is that derecho d-e-r-e-c-h-o yes that's Spanish for
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right I don't get it they're coming so is it
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depending on was it headed let's see to the east
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is that one because it would be the better word
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izquierdo well not necessarily better the left hand thing is
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it's a kooky word uh-huh Hmm. But it's sound. I
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mean, but people say, I mean, I don't think a
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tornado went right over us, but it was a the
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sound of the storm was fairly interesting. And luckily, the
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power just went off and on a few times quickly.
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Just to scare you, a little flickering, huh? Pretty much,
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but it's been weird. ComEd, they've had multiple storms here
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in Illinois, but I'm blaming, again, the infrastructure because we
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all know what's going on with the infrastructure. Yes, we
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do. And when the power goes out now, it's not...
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And I get it. These are really big storms. Um...
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That's a record I didn't want to take from Adams'
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home state there of Texas who had the most tornadoes
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in a season ever. Now Illinois has that record this
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year. Wow, impressive. So finally, something. I know, we finally
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got something. Besides the creepiest politicians. I'm telling you, the
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Bears are going to be, I think they were going
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to announce that today. And part of the deal with
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the money that is going to subsidize this is... Changing
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the name. Indiana's going to be in the name. So
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Chicagoans are not going to be very happy with these
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politicians for letting their football team go. Sports ball. Yeah.
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But they expand their... their uh league or whatever their
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distance so they went from being a city franchise to
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a state franchise now it's gonna be the indiana bears
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is that they said indiana was gonna be in the
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name i haven't seen the yeah i mean i'm assuming
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that's what it'll be It'll probably be closer to here,
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so it's kind of nice. I mean, if you really
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wanted to go to see football games, but... Not usually
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where I'm heading out. Yeah. Well, maybe you'll move, huh?
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Finally get out and say goodbye to Pritzker. Just move
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over the border to Indiana, although their weather has been
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obviously just as bad because it's walking distance from here.
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Yeah. But that's not to say there's not a lot
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of insane things going on in the world. And we've
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got them all for you. I tell you. And the
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coverage here, why don't we start with the Fauci phone?
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I see you've got the Senator Johnson. And this, he
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was on Clay and Buck. And I'm sure he was
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everywhere. But this... the information coming out now is beyond
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the pale, as Joe Biden would say. Is there any
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setup on your clip where we can jump into? On
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Ron Johnson? Yeah. No, you could leap right in there,
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sure. Dr. Fauci writes, I asked around a bit more,
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and another issue came up that you need to be
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aware of, period. Period. Since many people have significant cytokine
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storm and fever after the second dose, this theoretically could
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be associated with miscarriage in the first trimester. Theoretically, only
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just theoretically. Theoretically, yes. And all we heard from public
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officials is that this was perfectly safe for patients. Let
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me go on a little bit more. In June of
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2021, Tom Sheehan Bakuro, he was the man in charge
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of safety surveillance systems for CDC, published a grossly misleading
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paper in the New England Journal of Medicine where they
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looked at 827 confirmed pregnancies. 700 of those pregnancies, the
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women got their COVID injection in the third trimester after
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28 weeks. Of those 827, 104 suffered spontaneous abortion or
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miscarriage. The problem with those stats is they took the
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104 divided by 827, came up with a miscarriage rate
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of 12.6%, which is about four times the rate of
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normal miscarriage rate on a confirmed pregnancy. But here's what
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they did that was so grossly misleading. 700 of those
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women got their injection in the third trimester. A miscarriage
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or spontaneous abortion is defined as anything up to 20
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weeks. So the relevant denomination should have been 104 miscarriages
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divided by 127, which puts a miscarriage rate at 82%.
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So, Anthony Fauci knew about potential cytokine storms impacting the
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first trimester in miscarriages, told no one about it because
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it would create vaccine hesitancy. There you go. Yeah, those
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are stats that are... Those are hard to ignore when
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you're going up from a very small number because you
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were including all pregnancies in it to now you're like,
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well, if you were just looking at the first trimester
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and the pregnant women, I'm sorry, pregnant people, right, should
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have been warned that this is a dangerous thing happening.
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To take within the first trimester, yet they were so
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afraid that this would cause vaccine hesitancy among everybody that
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they withheld that information. Oh, yeah. You know, I happened
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to flip through something I saw. Was it Netflix or
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whatever? It was called Get Gotti, right? Right. And it
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was a show just about how like thousands of cops
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from many different agencies tried to nail that guy for
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and I was still living in New York back then
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and he was a big personality in the news. They
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called him the Teflon Don and so forth. And finally,
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and the funny part was there was the FBI, the
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Organized Crime Task Force, the NYPD, and they were so
9:18
intent on getting Gotti that they were screwing each other,
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not giving intel that would have been vital to help
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them, you know, because they want to be the one,
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I got Gotti, right? Anyway, if you think about that
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guy, he's running the Gambino crime family. He did it
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for maybe five or six years. And all that time,
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if he had 100 guys clipped, that would be a
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lot, right? Probably less than that. Maybe even 200. But
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just considering that, most of them were fellow murderers and
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horrible criminals. So in some way, he was maybe doing
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a little bit of a public service. Right. Okay, really.
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But they were intent on getting this guy because they
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could, you know, file their nails and say, look how
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cool I am.
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How many people did Fauci kill? I mean, has anybody
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come up with a number for that with his lies
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and the way he misdirected everything? But he will never
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do a split second in jail. In fact, look at
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the old lady. She's flipping the bird to the M5M's
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cameras now. That's crazy. because he kind of knows he's
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impervious to prosecution. It's really frustrating, isn't it? Oh, yeah,
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he has the Biden pardon. And it's even worse is
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that the people that are backing him, this is a
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clip from CBS Evening News talking to Dr. Serena Chen.
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And they're going to go down that this was still
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the right thing to do. I know. It's insane. To
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talk about this and the state of the science today,
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we have Dr. Serena Chen, an OBGYN and Director of
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Advocacy at CCRM Fertility of New Jersey. Dr. Chen, thank
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you very much for joining us. dr fauci has declined
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to comment on these messages when you read them what
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do you make of it you're kidding did he really
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i would like to take my fifth amendment rights to
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not say anything about anything about anyone ever it's like
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did you expect him to no he's never going to
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and it's just really it's Disgusting. And that is the
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right word. And I think it was the one that
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Senator Johnson used because you see these comments privately discussing
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this, but they didn't make that public. It's like, I
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understand. Both sides of that story But there would have
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been an easy enough way to say Hey well if
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you're pregnant In the first 12 weeks Be very cautious
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But no Read them what do you make of it
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And there's your best journalist question What do you make
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of it When you read them What do you make
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of it So I see somebody who is an expert,
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a global expert, infectious diseases, looking at data and having
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a conversation with other expert colleagues about what is going
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on. He's got to make a big decision, and he
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has to look at everything. And... perfectly reasonable to look
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at possible concerns ultimately though when you look at the
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data the risks and the benefits were really clear at
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the time yeah they were really clear at the time
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that if you were in your first trimester there was
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an 84 chance your baby was going to die if
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you took the vaccine yeah That part was clear. No,
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no. She's telling you, no, no. That was clear that
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the vaccine was more helpful. It's like, no, not to
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pregnant women. At the same time, it violated conventional rules
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to pregnancy and vaccines that were in place for decades
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and decades, which was you get a baby in the
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oven, no vaccines for you. Just don't do it unless
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it's something, you know, absolutely horrific, you know, Ebola or,
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you know, smallpox. But this, let's face it, this was
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a powerful flu, you know, and a reasonably healthy woman
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could be considered to survive it. So very, very evil
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stuff. - The risks and the benefits were really clear
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at the time. - The reason people react to this
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is because there appears to be this gap between what's
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being said in private with all this uncertainty and doubt,
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and then what's being said in public. How do you
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read that? - I think that... What he said in
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public ultimately, obviously, is the right thing. This is our
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recommendation today that all pregnant women. I know. Did I
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hear that correctly? Yes. Knowing everything we know now. We
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would still stick a woman in the first trimester with
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an MRNA vaccine knowing there is, what, 84% chance that
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the baby's not going to make it because, you know,
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we believe the science. Well, you're not listening to the
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science, madam. What he said in public ultimately, obviously, is
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the right thing. This is our recommendation today that all
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pregnant women should get the COVID vaccine every year and
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the flu vaccine because we still know, as he knew
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then, that the risks of COVID are so much higher.
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than the vaccine, even though there may have been some
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concerns about fever. Some concerns? Some concerns about fever. About
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fever. Wow. Can we have her on as a guest,
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Darren? I think we could teach her a thing or
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three, maybe. Wouldn't that be fun? If this data is
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correct or anywhere near correct, 84% of women having a
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miscarriage and she is going to say this all comes
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down to, well, there were concerns about fever. Yeah. It's
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absolutely unbelievable that people are still hanging to that narrative
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the way that they are. I mean, it makes zero
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sense. Somebody must be puppeteering her, you know, Pfizer or
15:06
something, whatever. You know, this can't be... It's just it's
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preposterous what she's saying. Absolutely preposterous. So there must be
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something else. There's another layer here we're not seeing. Well,
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they're probably all afraid now that Donald Trump is cutting
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down the amount of childhood vaccines. And that's a great
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thing. Yes, it is. Welcome back. The president signing a
15:27
new executive order calling for fewer vaccines for children. Annika
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Kim-Constantino has details on that EO yesterday. Morning, Annika. Morning,
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Carl. This is President Trump's latest move to reshape how
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Americans vaccinate their children. The executive order directs the federal
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government to cut the number of childhood vaccines recommended for
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all children from 18 to 11 and split the MMR
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vaccine into three separate shots spaced out across multiple doctor's
15:53
visits. And the shots no longer recommended for all children,
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such as the ones for hepatitis A and B, are
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advised for certain high-risk groups, and a few will be
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based on consequences. with a doctor, but it's important to
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note here that this does not ban any vaccines on
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the market. States still set their own school vaccination requirements
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and the administration says shots will stay available to families
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and covered by insurance. But pediatricians still have huge concerns
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here. Doctors say the administration has not provided new evidence
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justifying the changes and is repeating debunked claims linking vaccines
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to autism. And the fear here is that this rhetoric
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and new guidance will confuse parents and make some of
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them hold off on getting their children vaccinated. And this
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all comes at a time where we're seeing record measles
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cases in the U.S. and declining vaccination rates. Yeah, it's
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all debunked. Have you ever heard the media cover anything
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straight lately? No, no. I mean, these people are awful.
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They really are. It's like rather than reporting the story
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and saying, well, this side says this, this side says
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this, it's almost unbelievable. Now, what's the subtext there? Parents
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are stupid. They're going to be confused. They can't understand
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anything. We'll tell them what to do. You know, one
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of those, she didn't mention this one. I heard an
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ad, was it on television or the radio show? They're
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recommending now HPV, which is, you know, a sexually transmitted
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thing that used to be they were plugging it for
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12 year olds and above. Now, nine year old. You
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get a nine year old kid. So how many how
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many nine year olds are sexually active? And what's wrong
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with that? These people are demented. No, they're evil. They're
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just goddamn evil. They really are. well it is it's
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about having complete control yeah we've talked about it how
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in California Illinois and other places you can't even get
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your child's medical records no you cannot without their permission
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once I don't know if it's 12 12 years of
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12 years of dad they'll decide what's right for them
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not you Then why aren't the 12 year olds voting?
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Oh, wait, they're going to want that soon, too. Oh,
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yeah, that's definitely it's coming. Yes, no doubt about it.
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But listen here, this is CNBC. And just see how
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vehement they are about everything Donald Trump mentions is unfounded.
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It has been debunked. yeah there was some head scratching
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uh on the fact that i don't think there was
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a actually a medical doctor in the oval during that
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announcement and then this there was no medical doctor in
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the oval larry the oval yeah in the oval i
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mean since it looks like an insider in the oval
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right when we not say oval office yeah No, but
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there was no medical doctor in the oval because, you
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know, one has to be standing. Really, this is the
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left. If you don't have somebody standing behind the president
18:39
wearing the white coat, well, then it's not believable. And
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let's not forget, they failed to mention the fact that
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Tony Fauci was never a practicing physician. So how much
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of an expert is he really? Not much. He's America's
18:56
doctor. Yeah, but he never used a tongue depressor. Well,
19:01
he might have used it for something. Maybe, yeah. There
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was actually a medical doctor in the Oval during that
19:08
announcement. And then this notion from the president that some
19:11
vaccines are the size of a soda bottle, that kind
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of raised some eyebrows too. - Yeah, that's a great
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point to bring up, Carl. And when I talk to
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pediatricians and other experts, they always reiterate the fact that
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there's no scientific basis or rationale for any of the
19:25
changes that were made. And a lot of the actual
19:27
claims that Trump was making during his speech yesterday are
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really debunked here. And there's decades of evidence of supporting
19:35
the opposite of that so a lot of what we
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heard yesterday again there is no scientific basis there this
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has to all be pfizer financed it just has to
19:43
be who else would would profit from this it is
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amazing really that this is a news report on cnbc
19:54
And they are totally ignoring the fact that there are
19:58
plenty of,
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of cases of antidotal evidence and i understand that is
20:04
not proof with that said when you're doing something like
20:09
trump is in this case he's taking the what's it
20:12
measles mumps and rubella vaccinations which are normally given at
20:18
one time And the recommendation now is to spread those
20:23
out each by a year, where if you do them
20:26
that way, there seems to be no problem. Well, less
20:32
problems with side effects. Never say no problems with side
20:34
effects. No, no. When it comes to anything medical. But
20:40
why is that such a problem to the left to
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go, well, you know what we think may be having
20:48
these three together has caused an uptick in autism and
20:52
they're going to tap dance all the way to the
20:55
bank to try to explain why autism rates have gone
20:59
through the roof. At the same time, they're lying about
21:04
the foundational evidence. They've blown measles up to be equal
21:09
to Ebola or some horribly fatal ailment. It's not, and
21:14
it never was, and they've inflated all their research. You
21:18
know, it's a complete lie. I mean, I had measles
21:21
when I was a kid. There was no vaccine for
21:22
it then. And, you know, you got some spots on
21:25
your face and you felt crappy for a couple of
21:27
days and then you were good to go. Nobody, I
21:29
don't remember anybody ever getting seriously ill and certainly there
21:33
were no deaths from measles as kids. But now, you
21:36
know what the whole thing is? And basically, they want
21:39
Americans, if anything bothers you, from a hangnail to you
21:42
just kind of feel gloomy, take a pill, get a
21:44
shot. That's the answer. It's all in chemistry. Really. That's
21:48
the message. And with that, it's control. Yes. Because they
21:52
control who gets the shot and who has access to
21:54
it or what you're going to have to pay for
21:56
it. But in this case, I don't think anybody can
22:01
deny that for some reason, autism has gone through the
22:07
roof. And this is... a an attempt with very little
22:12
downside except for the fact and that's hilarious to me
22:17
that the left says well this just means parents are
22:19
going to have to take their kids to the doctors
22:21
more it's like i'm sorry your kids should be going
22:23
to the doctor once a year anyway for a checkup
22:25
when they're young you know it's like that's If they're
22:29
over 12, they'll decide, Darren. Right. But the vaccines are
22:33
way before then. Yeah. But it's like, so what's the
22:35
downside? They keep pumping them after that. They keep pumping
22:37
them after that. Of course they do. They don't want
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to stop at 12. Yeah. Yeah. And they figure out
22:41
how they can get more money and which pills they're
22:43
going to give them. And somebody will walk in and
22:45
say, hey, tell me about Jardians. Yeah. It is just...
22:50
It's insanity. And it's sad that this is where we
22:53
have gotten. And it's sad that we have a news
22:56
media that seems to be more beholden to the advertiser
23:01
dollar than producing a story. Because in this case, this
23:05
is the least. Think about it. Think if there was
23:08
actually some Trump was saying, stop a certain drug. He's
23:12
not. He's saying just separate these into three. So that
23:15
way there's less of a chance of an interaction and
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they're going nuts. Sure. Stay out of our sandbox. It's
23:22
ours. You're not invited, Trump. But, you know, there's a
23:25
kind of a lighter side to the COVID Fauci mess.
23:29
I have something here from Naomi Wolf, do you have
23:32
that one, Sandy? Yeah. You go to a city like
23:35
New York, or Boston, or LA, and there's like a
23:39
missing vibe, you know, since people have suffered this mass
23:44
injection. in New York City is overwhelmingly mRNA injected and
23:49
I went there and I just felt like something's missing
23:52
it is like a zombie apocalypse it's like where's the
23:55
human energy where's that energy of people kind of Grooving
24:02
off of each other, like resin from each other. And
24:05
if you think about what the lipid nanoparticles are, that
24:09
could explain this kind of weird zombie-like quality that... human
24:17
beings who've had these mRNA injections sort of exhibit. Stop.
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Are there zombies now? Oh, listen, listen. Before we get
24:25
to the zombie aspect, notice her vocabulary. This woman is
24:28
very smart, right? Did you notice her use the word
24:33
vaccine? Did she? I don't think she did. No, no,
24:37
she didn't. She chose the correct word injections. It was
24:41
never a vaccine, not even for a nanosecond, a complete
24:45
fraudulent lie. Right. And, you know, as I'm always braying
24:50
about the left, the left, the left, they must, they
24:53
must. change the vocabulary to their thing. So, you know
24:56
what? I'm not going to call it a vaccine anymore.
24:58
She's right. It's an injection and never say progressive. That's
25:01
that's that's camouflage for commie. OK, a COVID migrant. No,
25:06
it's an illegal alien. Right. Gender. No, sex was just
25:10
a perfect word for it until a sick pedo who
25:13
should have been parboiled named John Money. came up with
25:16
calling people, you know, people's sexuality, gender, it's BS. Hate
25:20
speech. There's no such thing. You know, when you use
25:23
their words, they win. And I really got to applaud
25:26
this chick for calling those injections. That's all they were.
25:31
Explain this kind of weird zombie-like quality that human beings
25:37
who've had these mRNA injections sort of exhibit and that
25:41
sense of like loss of allure, loss of connection, loss
25:47
of magnetism. interesting it's fascinating and you know what as
25:52
i heard this i thought wow you know i grew
25:53
up in new york and you know in my heyday
25:57
um i could walk um 10 blocks and at the
26:00
end of that this would be in lunchtime or afternoon
26:04
rush hour i might have collected one or two phone
26:07
numbers two they might have actually been to you know
26:10
Real women's homes, not the dog pound. How dare you
26:14
interact with people face-to-face? On the street, yeah. And I
26:17
mean, New York was absolutely, she's not kidding. It had
26:21
a vibe of people who wanted to connect. It was
26:24
everywhere, on buses and the subway and restaurants. There was
26:27
always kind of a crackle of people. Trying to connect,
26:31
you know, and I was I visited for the first
26:33
time in 10 years a few months ago And I
26:35
was trying to figure out what's what's wrong. There's so
26:39
I the word zombie crossed my mind people People in
26:43
New York used to—they didn't walk. They trotted everywhere. They're
26:47
really fast walkers. That's gone. They're just kind of loping
26:50
along, you know, nice and slow. And you go to
26:52
a saloon or a restaurant, you look around, and they're
26:55
all kind of in slow motion. And that's not the
26:57
way it was before. I'm sure she's correct that 99%
27:01
of them took the injection and she had a much
27:04
larger piece to say about how These nanoparticles have affected
27:11
deleteriously people's genitals. You know, really bad things she says
27:16
have happened because of how much of that is correct.
27:19
I don't know, but I could corroborate her theory on
27:22
the zombification of the New York populace. A lot less
27:26
people getting laid in New York. Exactly. Birth rates have
27:29
plummeted. T-cells are in the toilet. You know, it kind
27:32
of makes sense. Well, then you see that the younger
27:34
generation isn't really into dating and that they just want
27:38
to sit on their phone and you mix all these
27:40
things together. No question. You're totally correct. The phone is
27:44
a huge, maybe the biggest factor. Yes. Then you're going
27:48
to have a whole new generation in the United States
27:52
and in the civilized world where the Chinese, they don't
27:56
let their kids sit on the phone all day. No,
27:59
they don't. They're not using the one child birth rate
28:03
anymore per couple. So they're going to be they're going
28:05
to be pushing that. But the clip collector sent me
28:09
this and kind of works here. This is the morning
28:13
Joe responds to the Trump childhood vaccine. Now, if you
28:18
really want. journalisming morning joe and mika they're where you
28:23
go oh yeah all right big news yesterday big news
28:27
big big news breaking president trump signed an executive order
28:32
seeking to reshape vaccine recommendations for children On the current
28:38
schedule, children are vaccinated against 18 diseases, but Trump's plan
28:43
would only vaccinate against 11. His order also calls for
28:47
the MMR vaccine for measles, mumps, rubella to be vaccinated.
28:52
separated into three different single shots it's currently given in
28:57
one dose and there is no credible evidence that separating
29:02
them provides a safety advantage not one study the president
29:07
also made a dangerous and false claim yesterday about the
29:11
mmr vaccine dangerous and false claim false what can they
29:15
be darren and no data well is there any data
29:18
that says uh they're perfectly safe no i mean you
29:22
need we may need studies that look at groups that
29:26
you know do a test for the parents that want
29:28
their kids to get the three and separate them and
29:31
then see if there's a difference but that is going
29:33
to take 10 20 years for any real answers sure
29:37
and i can't really go against what donald trump said
29:42
which is if this is all we have to do
29:43
is separate them and everybody still gets the full coverage
29:46
it just might be a little bit safer why would
29:49
you be so against that msnbc does not control how
29:53
about leave it up to the parents let them decide
29:55
That's what they don't like. No, they don't like that.
30:00
The MMR, we want it in three separate vaccinations, given
30:04
at separate times. Together, there could be a possibility they're
30:08
quite lethal, and separately, it looks like they are not
30:13
at all lethal, but just very effective. And I think
30:15
I heard you say that the MMR vaccine for measles,
30:17
mumps, and rubella is quite lethal. is there any evidence
30:21
of that? What I've heard is that there are some
30:25
people that say it is that way and I say,
30:29
well let's say there's a 5% chance of it, let's
30:34
split it up, let's split it up because they do
30:37
say that given individual MMOs that give an individual, there
30:42
is no impact. In fact, they've said how safe it
30:45
seems to be. But I've heard when you put them
30:48
together, they can be explosive. that's just not true to
30:53
be clear that's just not true to be clear mika
30:57
just i've studied that's absolutely he studied yeah he's a
31:02
doctor now joey's a doctor now yes he studied he
31:06
probably called anthony fauci no doubt by the way you
31:10
know fauci Okay, continue. Medical evidence. No study. To support
31:14
what you just heard from the president. No medical evidence.
31:18
Bobby will say it. To what he just said. Bobby
31:20
may be that person he's talking about, but nobody else
31:23
has said that. There's no medical evidence except Bobby might
31:26
have said it. Well, you know. again if somebody tells
31:30
you that uh you know do you're going to do
31:33
these three things anyway but if you do them in
31:36
this order they might kill you if you do them
31:38
in the other order that's much safer well wouldn't you
31:41
do them in the other order no because pfizer needs
31:44
those profits for quarterly you got to mix them all
31:47
in one time yeah listen to the science Yes. And
31:51
I don't understand why you wouldn't, again, just cover that
31:55
story with, well, there is no evidence, but what harm
31:58
is it going to do? It's not like he's saying,
32:01
no, we're not going to do these vaccines anymore. Right.
32:05
Well... How much does Pfizer contribute to their ad revenue
32:09
each year? I think your answer is probably there. Probably
32:13
a lot. Of course. Of course. That's why they're so
32:17
vehement about this. I mean, they're foaming at the mouth
32:20
to defend that crap. Trying to watch any kind of
32:23
news coverage. It's very... like, oh, reverse mortgages. That's right.
32:30
There's medications usually for, you know, the fat drugs. See
32:34
your doctor. It's too much. Ask your doctor today. It
32:39
has to be a 90-second ad, too, because 60 seconds
32:41
are going to tell you what might happen, including death.
32:45
And the people in them always have that kind of
32:47
zombie thing going on. Have you noticed that? None of
32:50
them moves very quickly. They might all be AI by
32:53
now. Maybe. Maybe they are. By the way, did you
32:56
know that Fauci's name is now listed in the Urban
32:59
Dictionary? I don't want to know. It says, as a
33:03
verb, to plead the fifth to refuse to answer a
33:05
question, especially avoiding self-incrimination. So as an example, it says,
33:09
interviewer, quote, did you see who ate the last slice
33:12
of pizza? Me. I'm going to Fauci on that one.
33:16
So there you have it. at least it's not any
33:20
crazy sexual thing yet which is what normally that'll come
33:23
in the urban dictionary now we've had the election you
33:28
and I talked about Ms. Hong in we did in
33:33
Wisconsin and as long as we're picking on NBC now
33:37
This is their coverage on it. And this is the
33:41
other interesting thing that really was not clippable, but it
33:46
proves to me. That social media is complete and utter
33:52
garbage. It is completely inaccurate. It doesn't matter if you're
33:57
on the left or on the right. You're most likely
34:01
getting things that are not true because this clip of
34:06
NBC covering the The elections was hosted by a bunch
34:13
of right leaning accounts and half of them called them
34:18
CNN, half of them called them, you know, I think
34:24
MSNBC. They were just like, it's right there on the
34:27
video. You can see the little thing on the bottom
34:30
that shows you what it is. So you're posting a
34:33
video that clearly says NBC. And you're going to be
34:37
like, oh, even CNN's amazed. There you are. But it's
34:41
not CNN. OK, and Hong is losing statewide by 6,400
34:47
votes with, you know, nearly 60 percent of Dane in.
34:52
Her margin here is only three thousand seven hundred thirty
34:56
two. I mean, this is supposed to be the idea
34:59
of a if this this was going to be a,
35:01
you know, a sort of DSA earthquake in Wisconsin. This
35:05
was going to be its epicenter, Dane County. This is
35:09
what Dane County looks like with almost 60 percent of
35:12
the vote in. So so again, zoom out. You know,
35:18
I've I've been, you know, processing this and reserving judgment
35:21
and the possibilities here. But, you know, they're very friendly,
35:24
long precincts in Dane and everything. But I mean, that's
35:28
a lot of vote in in Dane County. And, you
35:31
know, that margin there has not opened up the way
35:36
I think a lot of people expected it was going
35:40
to. Meanwhile, OK, waiting on Central Count in Milwaukee, Waukesha
35:48
just a tick more came in since we last checked,
35:51
nothing there. In Washington, in Ozaki. So, yeah, they're really
35:57
not sure what's going on. But let's remember if you
36:01
were watching the polling numbers, which anybody that pays any
36:07
attention to polls. You're out of your mind because they
36:11
are never right. Before this election, I think the polling
36:16
on average had hung up like 20 or 22 percent.
36:21
She lost. But what I saw, I guess a day
36:26
or so ago, was she lost by just a hair.
36:29
Yes. It was a very, very narrow margin, right? Am
36:32
I correct? Yes, very. But she was supposed to win
36:34
by 22%, so... Yeah, but for an insane commie, she
36:39
did pretty damn well. Oh, yeah. I mean, really. This
36:42
is, yeah, the Democrat Party having its own little infighting.
36:50
This was another clip of the same dude when all
36:52
of a sudden, out of nowhere, a ballot surge came
36:56
in. Oh. By mail overnight? Probably, yes. On a USB
37:01
stick. That wasn't the right USB stick or something. There
37:04
was some weird things going on. Okay. Wow. Wow. What
37:10
the heck just came in in Brown? Was that the,
37:12
that was huge for her. Yeah. So that was about
37:16
18,000 votes and she nets 2,000. - Yeah. question was
37:28
that the I mean you can tell this guy even
37:32
without the video you can tell this guy is amazed
37:36
by what just came in while he's covering this live
37:39
on the air was it pulled out from under a
37:42
desk and uh In Atlanta, right, probably. It was in
37:45
a banker's box that was found in a janitor's closet.
37:49
Right. That wasn't central count, was it? It's possible. There's
37:53
no remaining vote in Brown, according to our counter. I'll
37:57
check the website. I said I want to present more,
38:00
but now I do, because if that was central count,
38:03
what was his percentage of that vote? Let's take a
38:07
look. If this was Central Count, this is the question
38:11
we're getting at from Milwaukee. If he just got buried
38:14
in Central Count Green Bay. It was 44 to 34.
38:19
Hong over Crowley. Okay. Okay, yeah, let's... Can we ask
38:24
our decision to ask what we think that was that
38:26
just... And do we think there's central count left for...
38:30
Can we ask our people what the hell just happened?
38:34
Hmm, really? Really? CNN says the establishment is striking back
38:39
Bernie Sanders Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez they did not endorse her as
38:44
they had endorsed Abdul Al-Sayed in the Michigan Senate Democratic
38:47
primary there I want to say I've been on cable
38:49
the last few days a lot it's where I like
38:51
a little laugh tell there I've heard a lot of
38:54
Republicans with talking points. They were loaded for bear on
38:57
Francesca Hong. Francesca Hong was the candidate they were focused
39:01
on. They were already trying to nationalize her. What they
39:04
saw is her imminent victory in Wisconsin. How surprised are
39:07
Republicans this morning? John, they are very surprised that not
39:14
only were they talking about this campaign and how they
39:16
would effectively use some of her comments, they were trying
39:20
to prop her up at the same time. A remarkable
39:23
play here. The Republican governor's Association was spending more than
39:26
four million dollars running ads showing that she's a strong
39:29
progressive. Well, that was seen as a way to effectively
39:32
meddle in this race. So Republicans were hoping to run
39:35
against her. That did not happen. So this race is
39:39
an example of the establishment striking back. But John, I'm
39:42
also thinking back to an interview I had with David
39:44
Crowley on Sunday evening. I asked him, about that establishment
39:47
thing. He said, look, I'm established, but I am not
39:50
a member of the establishment. If he would win, he
39:53
would be the first African-American governor right here in Wisconsin.
39:57
Yeah. Have you checked Crowley's policies?
40:00
No, it's probably not a whole lot different. It's almost
40:02
identical to hers. So really, you know, it's the same
40:05
thing. They'll make great hay out of Crowley's nonsense. Well,
40:09
it's because Democrats be Democrat-ing. That's true. And people are
40:12
like, oh, you guys are all one-sided. It's like, show
40:16
me where I'm wrong. Yeah. This was an interesting little
40:21
blurb when they were talking about this on CNN and,
40:25
of course, all of the voting, the Save America Act.
40:29
This was something that even surprised me. This was a
40:32
White House spokesman saying that, yeah, Obama shouldn't have been
40:37
on the ballot illegally in Indiana. Oh, yeah. this is
40:40
good in arizona he hired the the ninjas what were
40:43
they called the cyber ninjas i'll give i'll give you
40:46
i'll give you an example where it has been determinative
40:48
and that's in my home state of indiana saint joseph
40:51
county the gentleman you previously worked for david axelrod barack
40:55
obama got on the ballot Because Democrats in that county
40:58
submitted fraudulent ballot petition signatures. People, including the Democrat county
41:03
chair, went to jail. over that. Barack Obama should not
41:07
have been on the primary ballot in the state of
41:09
Indiana. But that's not a voting... That's not a voting
41:11
issue. Like, that's... Can you believe this is the... What?
41:14
That's not a voting issue. Well, but that's not what
41:17
the Save America Act is going to... help with this
41:20
is the guy on CNN oh but that's not a
41:23
voting wait the guy shouldn't have been on the ballot
41:25
he got on the ballot illegally but to CNN that's
41:32
not a voting issue in the state of Indiana. But
41:36
that's not a voting, that's not a voting issue. Like
41:38
that's something. Well, it is a voting issue because he
41:41
was on the ballot and people could vote for him.
41:43
That's not a Save America Act issue though. That's not
41:44
a, you know, they're stealing the elections, illegals are voting.
41:48
That's an Indiana issue because Indiana is the one that
41:51
determines who's on their ballot. How did that get determined?
41:54
And that's Axelrod asking, who's like, wait, wait, how did
41:57
this happen? Who was that idiot? I mean, that's incredible.
42:02
The guy from CNN. I don't know which actor that
42:04
was. I'm sorry. How did that get determined? It was
42:08
finally exposed two years later. It went through the courts
42:12
and several people found themselves in jail. But that's the
42:15
problem. It didn't happen. They didn't find it before he
42:19
was on the ballot. It took years after. Oh, but
42:22
that's just an Indiana problem. Just an Indiana. Yeah. the
42:26
way the system works you got to be amazed you
42:30
do and revolted jen pisaki uh i hate the term
42:34
but said the quiet part out loud that the democrats
42:37
used to be the ones picking the candidates not like
42:41
letting the people decide It is really and I want
42:45
to bring Liz Smith into this conversation because Liz and
42:47
I grew up in Democratic politics. We're still young. of
42:51
course but um but we grew up in democratic politics
42:53
together and i think we both remember well when party
42:56
leadership really selected the nominees now you would never say
43:00
it that way exactly but they would you can now
43:03
now we can we're free um you know they they
43:06
really did because they would put money behind it they
43:10
would endorse um and now it it looks very much
43:12
like party leaders are not picking the nominees in fact
43:16
party leaders pushing nominees is is a negative it is
43:19
is a negative in many of these races but what
43:23
you mean are the ones with the highly leftist dsa
43:26
candidates is what you're saying yeah these people are no
43:32
good right hey ladies and gentlemen it's the podfather adam
43:37
curry 22 years ago today the daily source code ah
43:41
you remember yeah you remember i love it i love
43:44
it in the morning to you both in the morning
43:47
morning in the morning it's where real podcasting began Was
43:51
it 22 years ago? Was it 20? Was it? I
43:54
thought it was 20, 20, 20, 304. I thought it
43:57
was three enterprise on the 13th of the month. That
44:00
was very, no, no, no, bold, bold. I don't want
44:04
to interrupt your flow here because this is so interesting.
44:08
These DSA people, you look at the response on social
44:12
media. And you think that they were already, you know,
44:14
in the House and in the Senate. Oh, another communist
44:18
won. These are primaries. Yes. It's meaningless. Yeah, they still
44:26
have to go through the big election. Yeah. And if
44:29
you look at, what's the Al-Fayed? Is that the guy's
44:31
name? Al-Fayed. Yeah, Al-Fayed. From now on known as Al-Fayed.
44:38
And he's got to look like Alf in any album
44:40
art. There you go. You know, if you look at
44:43
the primary results, none of the working class Ari has
44:48
voted for him. None of them. It's all, and I
44:51
understand, these are all highly educated, highly debt-laden people who
44:58
got, sadly, psyoped into believing that if you go to
45:03
a university, then you will be rich when you go
45:06
into the workforce. You'll do just fine. And the two
45:10
things that changed is their parents allowed them to go
45:14
to woke universities, the woke universities were allowed to exist,
45:17
they came out with gender studies degrees, and they're useless.
45:21
And so yeah, and it's all about a hate Trump,
45:25
protects our community of illegals. And Medicare for all. It's
45:32
all the things that have already been adjudicated in Congress.
45:37
And I think this is great. I mean, there's a
45:40
lot of Republicans I think are nuts too. But these
45:43
people, I don't see them winning. Well, have you seen
45:48
El-Sayed doing his cowboy dance? No. Oh, wait a minute.
45:53
He should come to Texas with that, right? Yeah, I
45:56
would have brought a clip, but it was just musical.
45:58
And Darren, you should know, he was dressed like the
46:01
cowboy from the village people and kind of moved like
46:03
him, too. And he learned that. He learned the dance.
46:07
He's doing his dance to a Taylor Swift tune. So
46:10
there you have it. Nice. Nice. It's even better. But
46:15
the guy, you know, he's completely from the whole Axelrod,
46:18
Obama... background i'm you know this this guy smells so
46:23
bad road scholar okay not just a road scholar i
46:27
checked on him a part of his education was paid
46:30
for by the soros foundation who by the way is
46:33
96 years old today happy birthday wow wow but the
46:36
foundation birthday list It's not like he's... Put him on!
46:42
Put him on! It's not like he's sitting there stroking
46:46
his white pussy, pun intended. You know, the Open Society
46:51
Institute, I mean, that thing has been so ingrained across
46:55
the world. It's a machine. so that is a real
47:00
problem but dsa everyone's just who who runs the dsa
47:05
Who are the leaders of the DSA? Who's running this?
47:08
Nobody knows. No one talks about it. They're never doing
47:10
interviews. I thought it was Antifa. no there is no
47:15
such thing as oh that's right it's an idea joey
47:18
says it's just a thought it's a concept this was
47:21
there was a co-chair was on uh the uh on
47:24
fox and actually went hard to believe for an interview
47:29
on fox and had a really hard time explaining the
47:32
millionaire's tax Now, Hong also wants to abolish ICE to
47:37
fund the police, push government-run socialized health care for all,
47:40
create state-run grocery stores, and allow transitioning treatments for minors.
47:44
Sounds like a plan. Some of those points are pretty
47:47
consistent with her past pledges, especially her attacks against law
47:51
enforcement. All of that appears in lockstep with the broader
47:55
DSA platform, which critics say is so detached from reality
47:59
that even the co-chair has trouble explaining a key pillar
48:03
of it, high taxes. Do you believe there should be
48:05
millionaires in this country? I'm less concerned about millionaires, more
48:11
concerned about billionaires. We do believe in taxing the hell
48:14
out of millionaires. If you're the co-chair of the DSA,
48:17
shouldn't you be more specific than just taxing the hell
48:19
out of something? What exactly do you mean? so again
48:24
it's democracy right and we have to look at what
48:26
we need to spend and what we need right we
48:28
look at what we spend and what we need and
48:30
we just take it take it take it right right
48:34
span it's one hell of a plan It's a great
48:39
plan. They're only concerned about billionaires, which, again, if you
48:43
take all the money from all the billionaires, you're still
48:45
not going to pay for what you want. But it's
48:47
crazy because these kids who are all in on this,
48:50
because I have a daughter in New York, stepdaughter, but
48:53
she's my daughter. And, you know, I was pretty successful
48:58
at deprogramming her during COVID. It was difficult. We started
49:02
at, you guys are white supremacists. Why do you say
49:07
that? Why do you say that? She went to University
49:11
of Arkansas. Really woke, woke, super woke college. Who knew?
49:16
Really? Oh, yeah. Oh, it's it's it's really incredibly woke
49:22
or whatever we used to call woke one, I guess.
49:25
I don't know what it is these days. And I
49:26
said, well, what? Why do you say that? So, well,
49:31
because you're watching Tucker Carlson every night. Oh, OK. And
49:35
then, of course, Tina's like, wait a minute, you're living
49:38
in a house, your lifestyle is funded by white supremacists,
49:42
what's wrong with this picture? Anyway, so she's in New
49:45
York, and definitely I will take some credit for deprogramming
49:51
her. She's even said, hey, you know, you guys were
49:54
right. But that's when it came to when it came
49:57
to Luigi trial. Oh, she was out there. Oh
50:00
Well, yeah, she's like, you know, first of all, she
50:02
thought he was hot, you know, on the down low.
50:05
Like, what do you mean hot on the down low?
50:07
Well, he's secretly gay. Oh, okay. All right. I'm learning
50:10
all this stuff. And, you know, so she was like,
50:13
free Luigi. And I'm sure she voted for Mamdani. I'm
50:16
pretty sure she did. She said, you know, he wants
50:19
to give us stuff that we need. Now, here it
50:22
is exactly. Now, she's since, funny enough, she's gotten into
50:25
quite a career path where she's doing quite well for
50:28
herself. But she was, you know, busting tables, slamming drinks
50:35
at bars. And in that period, here she is, highly
50:38
educated, with a poli-sci degree, kind of useless. And, you
50:43
know, she was like, yeah, I'm all in on this.
50:45
Give me some free stuff. So that is your audience.
50:50
I don't think it's that big. No, because anybody that
50:54
starts then making their own money realizes where that money
50:58
is going to go to pay for everything else that
51:01
you were promised for free. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. You de-incentivize
51:05
somebody actually being successful. Now, the thing that is dangerous
51:09
that I feel is something we need to look out
51:12
for is what my neighbor down the street, Laura Logan,
51:15
she calls it the Red-Green Alliance, which is the socialists
51:20
with the Muslims. And this, I mean, this is, Texas
51:27
is just out of its mind right now. Now, there
51:31
is a real concern here because I saw this happen
51:35
in Europe. It takes 25 years, but it can happen.
51:38
But it's just kind of starting here in the United
51:42
States because the last four years and... Even during Trump
51:46
and before Trump, this immigration, it's always immigration. It's not
51:49
Muslims. It's immigration. Sure. And it's the apathy of people
51:54
sitting around going like, eh, city council, school board, who
51:59
cares? You know, like state senate, like, eh, nobody. And
52:03
then these highly organized, funded organizations. And groups like, you
52:09
know, the socialists, the DSA, they start to meld with
52:12
the enemy of my enemy. Oh, wait a minute. You
52:15
guys hate conservatives and Christians. Good. You'll be with us
52:19
and we're going to put a stamp on you and
52:20
then you can go into government. And when you get
52:24
to that point, that's where you have to be careful,
52:27
because then, you know, now someone has different ideas about
52:33
what your city or your state or, God forbid, your
52:36
country should act like and be like. We had this
52:40
big thing in Texas about the curriculum for the school
52:43
board. I mean, it was open for comments. They literally
52:47
had to do three days. There were so many people
52:50
had comments. And you had the socialists. Who wanted no
52:54
Ten Commandments, no Bible history lesson. They wanted Koran, I
52:58
mean, all of this stuff. And people came out, you
53:02
know, people got organized. They came out and then they
53:05
said, no, no, no, that's not going to happen. Here's
53:07
what we're going to do. But that's only because people
53:09
started to get mobilized. And now it's just... It's so
53:13
crazy. There was an article this morning. Let me see.
53:18
Here, Dallas-Fort Worth Airport to install Muslim foot wash stations
53:23
inside terminal bathrooms. Well, everybody is just like, this is
53:28
an outrage. What's happening? Of course, they did this at
53:32
the Houston Airport in 2024. Yeah. We have special pat-downs
53:37
for Sikhs and turbans and all that, but now they've
53:41
completely gone nuts, and they're fundraising off of it, and
53:45
I'm like, we are so stupid. The three of us
53:48
are so stupid. Here's what we need to do. Go
53:51
ahead, Larry. It's been in the pipeline for a long
53:53
time. I mean, my older daughter's 26, and when she
53:56
was in first or second grade at a public school
54:00
in Los Angeles, okay, so that's 20 years ago, they
54:04
canceled St. Patrick's Day and replaced it with Ramadan. Whoa!
54:11
Yeah, and... Okay, so this was very real. But did
54:14
you run for school board to stop that nonsense? No,
54:17
of course not. I did not. I ran for cover.
54:21
Woo! Yeah. Hey, morning zoo time, everybody. Nice, very good.
54:29
But that's what I give myself the blame. Like, I'm
54:34
in the 80s, 90s. I was MTV guy. I was
54:38
making money. I got no time for your school board
54:40
nonsense. But you know what I think... I think that
54:43
if you really boil it down to the very essence
54:47
of politics that goes back farther than the invention of
54:51
communism or socialism or any of this stuff, there's only
54:54
two kinds of people in this world. And those on
54:57
the left, I kind of called ASCOs, which stood for
55:00
Assholes Seeking to Control Others. People who want to tell
55:03
you what to do. And most of us on the
55:06
other side, who do have families and lives and jobs
55:09
at MTV or elsewhere, right? Right. How do we live?
55:12
We just want to be left alone. Leave us the
55:14
F alone. That's really what it boils down to. And
55:18
so those ones that are obsessed with controlling other people,
55:22
it's their religion. It's just what makes them tick, you
55:25
know, and they'll always be doing it. But to be
55:28
an American is to represent and to get... Get your
55:33
ass in gear. You're right. It should be. We kind
55:36
of forgot that. We took that for granted. True. And
55:39
I will ring the bell about that because I saw
55:42
it happen in Europe. I saw just apathy. People like,
55:46
yeah, whatever. Government never changes. And it did. Right under
55:49
their noses. Yeah. Right under their noses that changed. Now...
55:53
What gets me is the amount of YouTubers and podcasters
55:58
who are just making bank on this Muslim stuff. I
56:02
mean, we have one Muslim donor, Sir Anonymous of Dogpatch
56:06
and Lois Lobovia. He seems pretty okay to me. He
56:09
doesn't seem like a political radical Islamist. But I think
56:13
we just need to say it. If you don't support
56:16
no agenda, the Muslim Brotherhood will take over this show.
56:22
Can't deny it. Can't deny it at all. Who knows?
56:26
Larry may be asleep herself, for all I know. I
56:29
feel like it, Adam. I really do. I've never seen
56:32
you in person, man. I don't know. I don't know.
56:35
You got a beard? You got a beard? It's the
56:36
same thing with... No, Gene has the beard. You got
56:38
to really be careful of Sir Gene. Gene looks just
56:41
like a terrorist in general. Well, that's true. The people
56:47
assume that who is ever in charge... It's doing the
56:52
right thing by them. And that lasted for so long
56:55
because it was kind of the case for a long
56:58
time. They've completely checked out. And it's the same whether
57:02
it's local government and the PTA or it's who you're
57:05
electing for your state Senate or House or who you're
57:08
electing. to send to Washington. They're just assuming like, well,
57:12
the people that we put there, they have our best
57:14
interests at heart and the mainstream media gives them that
57:18
story. So they just go on their day and they
57:21
don't know what's going on at all. They're ignorant. i
57:24
think a part of it too is parenting i never
57:27
voted till i had kids because i just didn't care
57:29
what kind of word world will i leave behind what
57:31
do i care i won't be in it yeah how
57:33
about you at when did you first vote adam just
57:37
curious um probably not until Gosh, probably not until I
57:44
was in New York at MTV, so my mid-twenties. All
57:49
right. And part of it was because we lived overseas.
57:52
My parents did vote. It was a real hassle to
57:55
get an absentee ballot. You know, these days, it just
57:58
comes to your door. You get a hundred of them.
58:01
Look, I got a whole mix of them. It was,
58:05
you know, I had to go to the embassy, you
58:07
had to show your papers, and you had to request
58:10
it, and then you had to go pick it up
58:11
at the embassy. It was a real ordeal. My parents
58:15
both did that. And I think the only reason why
58:18
I, for the same reason you're saying, Larry, the only
58:21
reason why I eventually did vote is that MTV, these
58:24
were all New Yorkers, and they lived in New York,
58:27
and they were like, you know, voting day. It's like,
58:30
oh, no, man, like, I got to go vote. Yeah,
58:33
it was it was a thing, you know, and then
58:35
I also hadn't really been in America growing up. So
58:38
that's when I realized, oh, crap, I probably should vote.
58:41
And I'm sure I voted for Bill Clinton. I'm quite
58:44
sure of it. You know, because it was cool. Boxes
58:48
are briefs, Mr. President. And I got an invitation from
58:53
Hillary to go visit the White House. Did you really?
58:56
I want to know more about this. Yeah, I wish.
58:59
I wish. You didn't go? No, I was on assignment.
59:03
I think at the time I was doing the... I
59:06
was the only guy who could ski at MTV, and
59:09
they did a deal with the pro-Mogul skiing tour, which
59:15
meant someone had to go out. Unfortunately, someone had to
59:19
go to every single awesome skiing place in the United
59:22
States. That's horrible. That's horrible. And British Columbia. I went
59:26
to Whistler and, you know, and I would do the
59:29
top 20 countdown, a couple of segments. And when I
59:32
got back, someone said, oh, yeah, you know, this came
59:36
to you up at the office. And you have to
59:37
understand, the office and the studio, there was two different
59:40
worlds. The MTV News Department, which came in at a
59:43
certain point, and they hated us. They just hated the
59:46
VJs. VJs were just scum to them. We never got
59:49
invited to the Video Music Awards. Oh, yeah, you can
59:52
have a ticket. Oh, yeah, you can get a ticket
59:54
if you fly yourself out. Oh, yeah. Wow. Yeah. Yeah.
59:58
And so, and then, and this invitation
1:00:00
It'd come in from the White. I still have it.
1:00:02
It'd come in from the White House. The First Lady
1:00:04
requests your presence. I don't remember what it was for,
1:00:06
but so it had already passed by the time I
1:00:09
got the invitation. You were a ski bum. A ski
1:00:13
bum. Yes. Indeed, ski bum. But yeah, to answer your
1:00:18
question, you know, mid-20s. You know, mid 20s. And, and
1:00:23
yeah, you know, so that is, I, people are right.
1:00:27
If you don't, if you don't, what's the acronym? G-Y-A-G-Y-I-A-G.
1:00:34
Get your ass in gear. G-Y-A-I-G. Troll room's already created
1:00:38
an acronym. Gyagi. Gyagi. yeah um then it can be
1:00:43
taken away from you i saw it happen how do
1:00:46
you feel when you go back to netherlands and see
1:00:49
what's happening i mean that must really depress the hell
1:00:51
out of you does it well so the kids uh
1:00:54
my daughter uh uh kevin her i'll just call him
1:00:58
fiancee Uh, because, uh, that's, he's promised me that he
1:01:03
will marry her. They're doing a reality show right now.
1:01:06
So I said, okay, season two, then I'm fine with
1:01:08
that. You don't mess with the podfather with the judge.
1:01:14
Have someone else pay for it. Um, and of course
1:01:17
my granddaughter, Cleo, little baby Cleo, I'm not. Held in
1:01:20
my arms yet, end of the month. You know, all
1:01:23
of Rotterdam, not all, but many parts of Rotterdam are
1:01:28
just Moroccan now. And that is an immigration issue which
1:01:33
turns into a Muslim issue because they have their own
1:01:36
schools, which are, I guess, technically... Not called the Madras,
1:01:42
but it's probably pretty similar to it. The Macro Mafia,
1:01:45
as it's known, they run all the drugs in Holland,
1:01:48
all of it. And they run the drugs all through
1:01:51
Western Europe. It all comes through the port of Rotterdam.
1:01:55
Wow. So, you know, my daughter doesn't necessarily feel safe
1:01:59
walking alone. She can take care of herself, but she
1:02:02
doesn't like it. And when we were there visiting a
1:02:06
couple weeks ago, she's like, I think the topic of
1:02:11
boobs came up. Yeah. The boobs donation. This is people
1:02:16
talk. Well, it came up in the context of feeding
1:02:21
the baby, breastfeeding. And in Europe, it's very common for...
1:02:28
Women to breastfeed in public It's not a big deal
1:02:32
In fact, growing up in the Netherlands Although a tad
1:02:35
shocking to my parents In the early to mid-70s You
1:02:39
go to the beach And Holland has beaches It's right
1:02:43
on the North Sea there and everyone's topless men and
1:02:47
women and it was just normal and the dutch didn't
1:02:50
even understand you know co-ed showers at the sports club
1:02:54
wow this would now that has gone away uh over
1:02:58
time but just you know taking your top off as
1:03:01
a woman on the beach was not seen as a
1:03:03
big deal Well, now, oh, no, not only that, but
1:03:07
they have burkinis everywhere. So it's a burka bikini. And,
1:03:14
yeah, the freedom, loving, open kind of, I will say,
1:03:22
liberal... The society of the Netherlands is ruined. Changed forever.
1:03:28
Changed forever. What about the red zone in Amsterdam? Is
1:03:32
that still cooking? That's a tourist trap. I mean, they
1:03:35
changed that a long time ago. The coffee shops are
1:03:39
dwindling because you can't sell it as a coffee shop.
1:03:42
So you have to keep operating until you drop dead.
1:03:47
I don't think even your kids can assume it. So
1:03:50
all of that cool stuff is gone. Now it's a...
1:03:54
Nut jobs with TikTok, you know, influencers everywhere. There's a
1:03:59
sign like, oh, we have the strobe waffles from TikTok.
1:04:03
This is the place you need to get them. There
1:04:05
was never like fresh strobe waffle bakeries in Holland. You
1:04:10
know, a baker might make them. And now it's a
1:04:12
TikTok attraction. It's all ruined. It's ruined. Yeah. It's been
1:04:16
Disney-ized, Americanized. Not Americanized. I mean, first of all, in
1:04:20
Amsterdam, there's no Dutch people. It's all expats. Wow. Yeah.
1:04:25
Oh, yeah. I love Amsterdam. It's so cool. I ride
1:04:29
my bike everywhere. Yeah. grandma back yeah exactly yeah but
1:04:36
it's the same thing what's going on in london what's
1:04:39
starting to happen in ireland it's all just the destruction
1:04:42
of culture and it's being done intentionally And everybody wants
1:04:47
to just ignore it and say, well, it's good to
1:04:49
have diversity. It's like, well, but it's not good to
1:04:52
destroy cultures. No. Well, and that, you know, so if
1:04:58
you look at these DSA or DSA adjacent candidates, one
1:05:03
of the big things there... One of the big things
1:05:07
they're talking about is affordability, okay, affordability, and this is
1:05:14
something that's coming from both sides of the spectrum, affordability
1:05:18
and endless wars. And, you know, I've been looking at
1:05:24
this Iran war since it started, but before then as
1:05:27
well. You know, Iran has always been an interesting, interesting
1:05:33
region. And, you know, particularly 79, we all know, you
1:05:38
know, what we did in 79 is, you know, we
1:05:41
we've. We've always been a part of the kind of,
1:05:45
well, the North Sea nexus has always been about keeping,
1:05:47
keep that region, keep it a problem, you know, so
1:05:51
we can kind of own the oil trade. You know,
1:05:54
oil is still mainly traded on the ICE, which is
1:05:57
the British exchange. Of course, there's also Brent is traded
1:06:01
in the United States. Or Texas crude, WTI. But the
1:06:07
whole, you know, the oil has always been the issue.
1:06:10
And for all these years, 47 years, as our dear
1:06:14
old Lindy Hop would say, Iran has just been a
1:06:17
problem. And now everyone hates Trump. All sides hate him.
1:06:24
But I... I think they're missing what he's doing. First
1:06:27
of all, Trump doesn't care. He doesn't care if the
1:06:30
Republicans lose the midterms. He doesn't care. He really does
1:06:34
not care. He has a couple things he wants to
1:06:38
fix with America. The first one is production, factories. I
1:06:44
think he's largely succeeding. If you see that the jobs
1:06:47
report, okay, it's 5,000 jobs, but, you know, came after
1:06:50
another 15,000 that were created in a previous report. He's
1:06:54
put these section, I think it's 232 tariffs on steel,
1:07:00
which makes anything... And anything coming from abroad that contains
1:07:06
steel, just too expensive. So I know a CNC milling
1:07:09
guy here. He says, we can't, almost can't handle the
1:07:13
work. Wow. And it's all American steel, which he said,
1:07:16
yeah, it's more expensive. The prices are going to come
1:07:19
down over time. But if you look at the Chinese
1:07:22
steel... It was crap. 40% you throw away. It was
1:07:26
just no good. So the job, I think that's the
1:07:30
big part. If I believe Mike Rowe, and I tend
1:07:35
to believe him, there's 7 million jobs that need to
1:07:40
be filled, and there's 7.5 million jobs People who just
1:07:45
stop looking for jobs. Now, I don't know exactly why
1:07:48
that is or that they're living with their parents. There's
1:07:51
40,000 welders that are needed. You know, another multi-10,000 electricians.
1:07:58
You don't need a degree. You can just go to
1:08:01
an electrical industry. company and say, I'm willing to work,
1:08:05
they'll teach you. Right. They'll train you quick. I mean,
1:08:08
we have a guy here in Fredericksburg and he prepares
1:08:13
the wineries. He does all the You know, the pre-planting,
1:08:19
the harvest. Well, of course, the vines aren't really planted.
1:08:22
They stay there. But all of the sprinkler systems and
1:08:25
ice came through town. Oh, we need a lot of
1:08:29
employees. No, ICE has been through Fredericksburg several times. And
1:08:35
so, you know, all of his workers are gone. And
1:08:38
he is desperate. Be like, you know, they're up to
1:08:42
like $30 an hour. I'll pay anything. Just come and
1:08:46
work for me. So that's going to change. And that
1:08:49
is... That's kind of the point. That's part of what
1:08:52
the president was doing. Now, when it comes to Iran,
1:08:55
I think everyone is seeing it incorrectly. This is, you
1:08:58
know, we have the choke points, the main one being
1:09:01
Straits of Hormuz. You know, we have the Suez Canal.
1:09:05
There's another one there. Oh, I'm forgetting the name. But,
1:09:12
you know, these are the maritime routes. And I'm just
1:09:16
going to put fertilizers and stuff to the side. And
1:09:19
when, you know, when there's problems in the region, then,
1:09:23
you know, the oil doesn't flow as it should. This
1:09:27
is... Bank of America guy talking about it on CNBC.
1:09:31
Well, it's a bit of a laundry list. So to
1:09:33
the extent that the U.S. and Iran cannot come down
1:09:35
to an agreement to allow free passage. Remember, we are
1:09:38
seeing just about five to ten ships a day. We
1:09:41
need to see about 140 to be back at pre-war
1:09:43
levels. And frankly, to stabilize the market, we probably, because
1:09:47
we are rerouting through Saudi Arabia and the UAE, We
1:09:50
probably need to see 80 to 100 ships a day.
1:09:53
So again, we need to see roughly 10 times the
1:09:56
flow of ships to normalize prices and prevent
1:10:00
An escalation into the winter. So the analysis that no
1:10:03
one is giving is that this entire operation started a
1:10:07
year before the kinetic operation. And it is our gay
1:10:12
general Patton, Scott Besant, on the down low, who started
1:10:17
Operation Economic Fury. And... He, in this clip, I'm glad
1:10:23
I got this one. He explains exactly what the plan
1:10:27
has always been and what it's going to be. And
1:10:30
then I have some clips to back up that it's
1:10:31
happening. At Treasury, we did economic fury. What goes a
1:10:36
little publicized is, you know, on the kinetic side, AIR
1:10:41
FORCE IS WIPED OUT, NAVY IS WIPED OUT, A BIG
1:10:44
PORTION OF THEIR MISSILES, MORE IMPORTANTLY THEIR MISSILES PRODUCTION. ON
1:10:49
THE ECONOMIC SIDE, WE HAVE THEM BY THE THROAT AND
1:10:53
THEY'VE GOT 150, 180% FOOD INFLATION, NOT ABLE TO PAY
1:11:00
THE TROOPS. SO I THINK Maybe even today, tomorrow, we
1:11:04
are going to see an agreement, 30, 60-day ceasefire. And
1:11:10
the strait will be open, energy prices should come down.
1:11:15
There are some who have speculated the strait will never
1:11:17
go back to being the way it was before. What
1:11:19
would you say? I would say, I would take... I
1:11:22
think they're saying that in a doomsday sort of way.
1:11:27
I would say it in another way. The strait is
1:11:30
never going back to the way it was because the
1:11:33
Iranians have used... or tried to use it as a
1:11:36
choke point. What we are going to see over the
1:11:40
next two years, the strait's going to become irrelevant. It
1:11:42
is going to become just another body of water, and
1:11:46
I would say that more than 50 or 70 percent
1:11:49
of the energy that moves through the strait now is
1:11:53
going to go through underground pipelines. My favorite topic The
1:11:57
pipeline Yes And all these pipelines Are already in place
1:12:01
They've been used They're not big enough To make up
1:12:04
for the 20 20 million barrels Of oil per day
1:12:08
But they're being expanded If you recall The UA Now
1:12:11
UAE Saudi Arabia All these guys got oil Iran's not
1:12:14
the only one And they stepped out of OPEC, which
1:12:18
means one thing. They can pump as much as they
1:12:21
want. They're not restricted by the rules of the oil
1:12:25
producing economic communities or countries. And they're doing it. This
1:12:31
crown prince dude, he's not messing around. The Strait of
1:12:34
Hormuz has been a key energy artery of the world,
1:12:38
a narrow stretch of water just 33 kilometers wide at
1:12:41
its tightest point, through which nearly a fifth of global
1:12:44
energy supplies passes. But now, as Iran continues to restrict
1:12:49
global shipping access, through the strait, the UAE expediting an
1:12:53
alternative oil trade route. Abu Dhabi is moving with unusual
1:12:58
speed to ensure that its economic future is no longer
1:13:01
tied to Hormuz. The UAE has ordered a fast-track expansion
1:13:06
of a major West-East oil pipeline, a project designed to
1:13:09
bypass the Strait of Hormuz entirely. The directive came from
1:13:13
UAE Crown Prince Sheikh Khalid bin Mohammed bin Zayed, who
1:13:17
has been asked Abu Dhabi National Oil Company to accelerate
1:13:22
construction timelines. At the center of this strategic shift is
1:13:26
Fujairah. Unlike most Gulf export terminals, Fujairah sits on the
1:13:30
Gulf of Oman, outside the Strait of Hormuz. That makes
1:13:34
it one of the few safe exit points for Gulf
1:13:36
oil if the strait remains disrupted. The UAE already operates
1:13:41
the Hapshaan-Fujaira pipeline, capable of moving up to 1.8 million
1:13:46
barrels of crude per day. But now, Abu Dhabi wants
1:13:49
to double that capacity by 2027. It means that the
1:13:53
Gulf monarchies are no longer treating Hormuz disruptions as temporary
1:13:57
crisis. They are building for a future where they will
1:14:00
no longer be reliable on the straight. And that marks
1:14:03
a fundamental strategic shift. For years, energy security in the
1:14:08
region was built around the assumption that global navigation through
1:14:12
Hormuz would continue. Now, with Iran's restrictions through the strait,
1:14:16
that assumption has collapsed. So look at the two-year timeline
1:14:19
that Besan is talking about. That's 2028. These pipelines will
1:14:24
be in full operation. There's even a pipeline that Iran
1:14:26
built. That goes from it goes up the coast of
1:14:30
Israel. You got to wonder why we're going to protect
1:14:34
that bypassing the whole Suez Canal nonsense. That's being that
1:14:38
was built in like 1967 that's being reactivated. Now, so
1:14:43
by 2028, the oil will be flowing just the same
1:14:46
as it was, maybe even a little bit earlier. By
1:14:48
2028, the steel industry will be, you know, for every
1:14:52
job you create at the top end of steel, there's
1:14:55
like six jobs downstream, people are going to be back
1:14:59
at work just around the time when you know we're
1:15:02
going to have a general election new president will come
1:15:04
in it doesn't matter who it is they're not going
1:15:07
to say to the steel producing states well that's no
1:15:09
good right send it back to china because you'll never
1:15:12
get elected So I think what the president is doing,
1:15:15
yeah, I can see, I love the trope, trust the
1:15:17
plan. Yeah. Okay. This is not 5D chess. This is
1:15:20
just chess that no one's reporting on. It's that simple.
1:15:23
Some Indian lady is where I have to get these
1:15:25
clips from. Are you kidding me? So that's what's going
1:15:28
on and it will be good. I feel very good
1:15:31
about it. And the president does not care about the
1:15:36
midterm election. I don't think he even cares about who
1:15:38
comes after him. No, he wants his legacy. That's it.
1:15:42
Yeah, that'll be his legacy. And, you know, and of
1:15:44
course he'll have an arc and all that, an arc
1:15:46
to triumph, arc to Trump, all that stuff. You know,
1:15:49
he's kind of weird that way, but... It'll be gold-plated.
1:15:54
Those two general... missions, I think, are good. They're good.
1:16:01
And then probably, he probably, trust the plan, everybody, probably
1:16:05
has seen that this AI thing is going to blow
1:16:08
up, because he may not understand it, but he's not
1:16:11
stupid. He knows numbers. I'm sure he goes to Darius
1:16:15
at Anthropics and says, he's So, what's your profit? Well,
1:16:19
nothing. We're burning money, literally burning money on computer chips.
1:16:26
Well, okay, then let me fast track all of these
1:16:29
power plants, nuclear, gas-fired turbines. Well, that's going to be
1:16:34
great. So whether these data centers work out or not,
1:16:40
whether they get filled or not, whether they're used or
1:16:43
not, there's going to be a lot more power, a
1:16:46
lot of power. And power equals life and productivity. No
1:16:51
matter, I mean, that's just the basics of any economy.
1:16:55
Power. That's why the Chinese have done so well. They
1:16:58
have hydropower. They never went in on the green energy
1:17:02
scam. So they're just burning coal. They also have some
1:17:06
huge fusion magnet thing. I don't know if that'll ever
1:17:10
work, but it may just create a hole in the
1:17:13
universe. Don't you wish that that he would be some
1:17:16
concern about the midterms? Because look, you know, you get
1:17:19
the lefties back in there. Just think about Joey. He
1:17:22
stepped in. I'm shutting the pipeline pipeline down. All electric
1:17:26
cars. No, you know, they're crazy and they don't care
1:17:28
about productivity and jobs or anything. Just their their agenda.
1:17:33
Well, but this is—but, you know, there's not a pipeline
1:17:36
that you can—it's not an American president or American Congress's
1:17:41
business how the oil moves from the UAE and Saudi
1:17:44
Arabia. True. That's not his business. So, if anything— What
1:17:49
we're doing now by sitting there and shepherding, you know,
1:17:53
there's still 80 ships a day coming through, shepherding whoever
1:17:56
we want to come through. We're kind of helping all
1:17:59
these other countries create this alternative route. That's ultimately good
1:18:04
for everybody. You know, Congress is not going to stop
1:18:07
that. Okay, take the ships away by then. It's already,
1:18:11
Congress can't, if Congress wanted to stop this war, they
1:18:14
would just defund the War Department. The Dvorak and I
1:18:21
went through this, like Congress gets to declare a war.
1:18:25
You can declare all you want, but it's a commander
1:18:28
in chief who calls the shots. That's why they haven't
1:18:31
stopped it. They can't stop it. Every president has called
1:18:35
the war powers, a war powers resolution unconstitutional. And it
1:18:39
is. So what are they going to do? They're not
1:18:43
going to stop that. And, you know, back to the
1:18:45
steel example, what are they going to do? Just kill
1:18:47
all the jobs that were just created in the, in
1:18:50
the, in the, in the middle of the country? No.
1:18:53
So, yeah. And it's not what the... end result so
1:18:57
far has been is, I think, 18 servicemen and women
1:19:02
gave their lives in the Iranian thing. And I looked
1:19:05
this up the other day because I was curious. In
1:19:07
the same time period, 190 people have been murdered in
1:19:12
Chicago, where 18 service members sadly died over in Iran.
1:19:17
But When you kind of look at the cost of
1:19:20
everything and what is coming out of it, and if
1:19:24
you are going to be able to, you know, I
1:19:26
give Trump a little bit of credit for not going
1:19:28
in and just bombing him, bombing him, bombing him. He's
1:19:31
running this a little bit longer than a lot of
1:19:33
people would like. But the end result is their economy
1:19:38
is going to crap. They can't get oil out. And
1:19:41
once they're bypassed, their biggest card, we have the Strait
1:19:44
of Hormuz, kind of goes away. I wish instead of
1:19:47
saying, you know, 18... military men and women lost their
1:19:53
lives, I would just like to say these people were
1:19:55
heroes for securing our future. - Absolutely. - Then they
1:19:59
should be revered
1:20:00
and they should be remembered for help. But everyone's been
1:20:04
psyoped. It's like the right and the left. Endless war,
1:20:09
war of choice. No, every president has talked about this,
1:20:14
but no one did it. And now that Trump's 80,
1:20:16
he doesn't give a crap. You know what Joe Rogan
1:20:20
told me? When they had the, uh, uh, they had
1:20:25
the... the fight out on the White House lawn. Right,
1:20:31
the UFC thing. UFC, thank you. And, you know, there
1:20:35
was this, you know, some gang or whatever, they were
1:20:37
going to try and assassinate the president and kill people.
1:20:41
And Joe said that Trump said... I think Joe said,
1:20:44
aren't you afraid of getting taken out? And Trump said,
1:20:48
got to go sometime, Joe. Got to go sometime. I
1:20:54
can't be afraid of this stuff. That's your president. Right,
1:20:58
which is what you want. You've got to have somebody
1:21:00
who is able to stand on convictions and not... Have
1:21:04
the death threats and understand what may happen if he
1:21:07
pisses the wrong people off. Well, the problem is that
1:21:10
the only guy who actually tells you what's going on
1:21:13
is Besant. And he just talks like a, like a
1:21:17
dish rag, you know, it just, he's, he doesn't, and
1:21:22
Rubio, I don't know why Rubio doesn't just, someone has
1:21:26
to just say, this is the plan. I don't know
1:21:27
why they're not saying that. I'm sure there's reasons for
1:21:32
it. Or maybe fewer people understand it at all. But
1:21:38
to me, it seems so obvious. And, you know, it's
1:21:41
not like we don't have enough oil. It's just the
1:21:44
global price is set on markets. Whenever there's demand, the
1:21:49
supply always follows. I mean, there's always been enough oil.
1:21:53
It's just the price of it. That's the problem. Well,
1:21:57
yeah, we have enough oil. What was the last number,
1:21:59
like, for the next 600 years? So it's not like
1:22:02
there's a, oh, no, we're running out like we were
1:22:06
told decades ago. Peak oil, baby. I think it was
1:22:09
for coal. Uh-huh. They said, I think it was 600
1:22:11
for coal. Was that oil, really? I don't remember that,
1:22:14
but peak oil- During, I think it was 2009, during
1:22:17
this show. Peak oil. Oh, it's peak oil. Oh, no,
1:22:20
we're at peak oil. There's going to be no more
1:22:22
oil in the ground. That went on for years. Yes.
1:22:25
For years. Just like climate change. Still coming out of
1:22:29
the ground, too. Yeah. And so the hot job market
1:22:33
will be for steel workers and demolition guys to take
1:22:37
down all the unused AI data centers. Is that correct?
1:22:41
Well, maybe. I mean, I think that they can be
1:22:43
used as factory floors. They're probably useful for that. Yeah,
1:22:47
yeah. What about, are you any near the one that
1:22:49
Musk wants to build in Texas? It's going to be
1:22:51
100 million square feet? No, no. I really have a
1:22:56
hard time believing that this is actually going to take
1:23:01
place. I actually have a couple of MS Now clips
1:23:05
about data centers. Man on the street stuff, you know,
1:23:10
which is always good to pick from. Let me see
1:23:12
what this is. And then we have a cha-cha sauce,
1:23:14
too. It's a three-in-one sauce. You need to be a
1:23:16
television host. This is a guy with a food truck
1:23:19
in Detroit. That's your job. I think so. They're trying
1:23:22
to build a lot of data centers in Michigan. Do
1:23:24
you think it's going to be an issue that's central
1:23:26
to the politics here in the state? I do. Why?
1:23:30
Because people think that their bills are going to go
1:23:34
up and... It's a lot of... People are scared of
1:23:37
them. They are, and I'm afraid of them, too. What
1:23:40
scares you the most? The water usage and the prices
1:23:45
with the utilities. It's frightening to me. I'm in my
1:23:49
70s. Pretty soon I'll be sitting down doing nothing, and
1:23:53
I'd like to have the money to do it, and
1:23:55
I don't want a $200 water bill. And this is
1:23:58
an interesting psyop that's taking place about the water bill.
1:24:02
I don't think that is true. You know, these systems,
1:24:05
they take on water and then they recycle most of
1:24:09
it. Not all, but most of it. For sure, I
1:24:11
know from dude named Ben... Name Ben, do name Ben,
1:24:16
name Ben, the protector of megawatts, that a lot of
1:24:19
these data centers are definitely screwing around with the local
1:24:24
municipalities by setting up, you know, they kind of hide
1:24:28
behind their power generators that they're setting up. And so
1:24:32
they are passing on costs to the local community, but
1:24:35
I think that's temporary. And there's obviously a lot of,
1:24:39
you know, a lot of money changing hands to get
1:24:43
these things built. And, you know, we have a new
1:24:46
generation of farmers who are looking at how much work
1:24:49
it is to run a farm. Right, and how much
1:24:52
you can get for the land. How much you can
1:24:53
get for the land, exactly. And so people are being
1:24:58
told the most horrendous things. AI data centers, yeah, that's
1:25:02
where they do a lot of the AI, making the
1:25:04
AI stuff. Are you worried about it? Water. I am
1:25:06
worried about it. I'm very concerned about it. Yeah, because
1:25:09
I feel like when you cold press something, you need
1:25:11
water to do it or no? Well, I need water
1:25:13
to clean my stuff, you know, and wash my produce
1:25:15
and do all of that. There's no water in that
1:25:17
juice, though. She's in the food truck, too. I'm kind
1:25:19
of for them, you know, as long as they take
1:25:22
certain safeguards, you know, environmentally and noise pollution and all
1:25:26
that stuff. The residents who live out by the new
1:25:28
ones apparently don't think that's adequate enough. Yeah, they're not
1:25:32
happy about it. What's your name? Connie. bank honey it's
1:25:34
so nice to meet you that is a nice head
1:25:36
of cauliflower you got there guess how much it costs
1:25:38
how much this is detroit honey how much one buck
1:25:42
stop it i'm telling you one dollar cauliflower all right
1:25:47
so yeah But I think this is the gambit here
1:25:51
is get all of these. And there's these turbine. They're
1:25:54
using old jet engines, anything they can get. All GE
1:25:57
is sold out of power generating turbines through 2030. They're
1:26:04
sold out. So we're going to have power everywhere. I
1:26:08
really don't think they're going to be utilized, at least
1:26:11
not with the so-called artificial intelligence that we're seeing today,
1:26:15
you know, because the numbers just don't add up. But
1:26:19
that power generation is going to be fantastic. I stand
1:26:23
by this. And, you know, the president said, it was
1:26:27
kind of genius. Okay. I don't know if he came
1:26:30
up with it. But, you know, to say that these
1:26:33
are utilities, these will be local utilities. And I truly
1:26:36
believe that that is going to turn out to be
1:26:38
true. And it probably won't be powering these data centers,
1:26:41
but they'll make power very powerful. Maybe we use these
1:26:45
as factory floors. We start producing stuff here with nuclear
1:26:48
energy. There's, I think, eight small-medium reactors that are being
1:26:52
deployed all around the country now. This is the stuff
1:26:55
that was being held back for decades and decades. And
1:26:59
so now the... I don't know if you've been following
1:27:04
this, but this is such a bullcrap money sink that
1:27:11
they've got BlackRock and KKR and Blackstone and all the
1:27:16
big hedge funds. They're all raising half a trillion dollars
1:27:21
now. to build out data centers with NVIDIA leading the
1:27:25
charge. NVIDIA, the only profitable company in this entire mix.
1:27:31
And it's another form of the circular financing that's been
1:27:35
going on. Except now they've come up with a new,
1:27:38
a new, come up with a new one. um tokens
1:27:42
equals a commodity so you can invest in tokens now
1:27:47
no one knows exactly how they're made what each each
1:27:51
token is different uh what does it really cost to
1:27:55
make a token doesn't matter they are setting up not
1:27:59
the not the the 99-2000 bubble. They're setting up the
1:28:04
2008 crash is what's going on here. So Jensen Wong
1:28:08
calls AI infrastructure a new asset class. Do you agree
1:28:12
with that assessment? Well, we have spent so much money
1:28:19
already. On data centers on AI. Companies involved in AI,
1:28:26
their stock market valuations have soared in Nvidia itself, which,
1:28:32
of course, is a huge supplier of chips to the
1:28:35
artificial intelligence industry. has a market cap now more than
1:28:39
five trillion dollars uh unfortunately wall street has a tendency
1:28:44
to really get into excess mode and hype mode and
1:28:48
this is an example of that uh to be honest
1:28:52
It harks back to me about what wall street did
1:28:56
to push mortgage back securities leading up to the 2008
1:29:00
financial crisis when. Wall street firms literally vertically integrated to
1:29:06
be able to provide mortgages, right mortgages, and then finance
1:29:11
mortgages. package them up into mortgage-backed securities and sell them
1:29:15
off and keep some of what they couldn't sell on
1:29:17
their balance sheet and use that to finance their own
1:29:20
cash needs on a daily basis resulted in disaster as
1:29:25
we all know. So now we've got 500 billion dollars
1:29:29
Coming out of essentially the private credit market to finance
1:29:33
in videos, construction now of new data centers as if
1:29:38
there aren't already enough data centers. So, here's Larry Fink.
1:29:45
Now, the thing about Larry Fink is he runs BlackRock,
1:29:48
but whose money does BlackRock trade? It's our money. It's
1:29:54
our money. Yeah. He's, you know, the nine or $11
1:29:58
trillion, you know,
1:30:00
that he trades is from the United States of America.
1:30:03
We need to raise this money as fast as possible
1:30:06
and put this to work because I think it's really
1:30:10
imperative that the United States is the leader in AI
1:30:13
in the world. And I think we need to be
1:30:15
the leader in the disbursement of this technology around the
1:30:19
And I think this is why this is so critical
1:30:22
and I applaud what NVIDIA has done bringing all these
1:30:26
firms together and saying we have a common goal, we
1:30:29
need to raise $500 billion obviously that's an unprecedented amount
1:30:32
of money, but we're going to have to raise trillions
1:30:34
of dollars over the coming years. And I do believe
1:30:36
this is going to be representing a fantastic investment. In
1:30:40
fact, I think it's going to be such a large
1:30:42
investment over time. You're going to see more and more
1:30:46
allocation into this asset class. Jim talked about compute as
1:30:50
an asset class, but importantly, I look at the financing
1:30:54
of data centers This is the very beginning, like what
1:30:58
it was when I started in the mortgage-backed securities market
1:31:01
in the 1970s. And I look upon this as a
1:31:04
next future for financial engineering. These guys are amazing. They
1:31:09
literally just, oh, yeah, I was part of that mortgage-backed
1:31:11
securities. It was great. I started this great business. Fantastic.
1:31:16
But the thing is, they're building the data centers. It's
1:31:19
the power that I don't think is being built from
1:31:23
our money, BlackRock per se. You know, and BlackRock may
1:31:26
not be using our money. They're going to raise this
1:31:29
money, so they'll raise it from sovereign wealth funds and
1:31:31
all kinds of other places. But here's the numbers on
1:31:33
the power. What I'll just end with is that the
1:31:36
power... is what drives all of this. The access to
1:31:39
energy. Yes, the access to energy. And we need to
1:31:42
build more faster. And there is a financing system for
1:31:46
power. Like, it's not new what Jensen's doing with compute.
1:31:50
Compute will get to where power is. There is, but
1:31:52
it physically has to get underwritten. And, like, we have
1:31:57
14 nuclear plants plants that were in various stages of
1:32:02
construction today, and it will be another 40 with another
1:32:06
hundred coming. Oh, we're going to get them done. And
1:32:09
this is the first time in a long time that
1:32:12
market-driven forces can build out the sustainable energy necessary around
1:32:17
the world. This is incredible, without government funding, this is
1:32:21
all market-driven. We're building these ourselves, and they're going to
1:32:27
get built all across the United States. And remember, we
1:32:29
bought Westerners out of bankruptcy seven years ago. Nobody was
1:32:32
building a nuclear plant, and there's a renaissance going on
1:32:35
today in the United States, led by Westinghouse, that is
1:32:39
incredible, largely because it's carbon-free, it's baseload, and it's the
1:32:45
next energy that's coming. And that's what's going to be
1:32:50
great about this. And I see you see Brooklyn 112
1:32:53
in the troll room. Same Ponzi over and over. The
1:32:56
C stands for cynical. No, it's not a Ponzi. That's
1:33:00
real investment. And it's going to be great. I'm going
1:33:02
to be mining Bitcoin for one cent a kilowatt hour.
1:33:05
I can't wait. Power is going to go down. Yes,
1:33:08
it's going to drop dramatically. Well, especially when people don't
1:33:12
understand they're already the people that are working on these
1:33:17
AIs that are distilling models on their own. They're taking
1:33:21
these open source models and they're able to get nearly
1:33:24
the same accuracy now. With a much smaller model, which
1:33:28
takes much less electricity. Forget the chatbot nonsense, which is
1:33:33
a complete loss leader for these guys. I have a
1:33:36
Helix machine, GTX, whatever it's called, 64 gigabyte. I'm running
1:33:42
15 complete... Uh, robot radio stations on one machine, creating
1:33:52
the voices, uh, checking, uh, the promos with whisper, you
1:33:58
know, everything's going back and forth, which would cost $3,000
1:34:02
if you had to buy it from, uh, Anthropic, or
1:34:04
even if you use, you know, one of these. Outfits
1:34:08
like Together.ai, where you rent by the minute. Right. And
1:34:14
I'm running that at home on a relatively inexpensive machine.
1:34:19
And what is the format of these radio stations? Christian
1:34:22
contemporary music, baby. Interesting. Oh, yeah. Oh, man, you should
1:34:27
listen to what's... The CCM that's going on today, it's
1:34:32
like rock and roll. I mean, it's good stuff. You
1:34:35
got Brandon Lake, Jelly Roll. There's some country in there.
1:34:39
You know, it's good. And... The message makes you feel
1:34:44
good. Of course. With Jesus. Amen. It's working. Quick Larry
1:34:54
Fink question. I want to know how he's getting along
1:34:56
with the decline in DEI. Wasn't he like leading that
1:35:00
charge? Oh, yeah. No, he had to shut that down.
1:35:03
You know, it was Fink and those guys who set
1:35:06
up the whole scale industry. The whole, you know, you're
1:35:09
not investable unless you, what was the name of that?
1:35:13
What was it? Gosh, I remember that. I talked about
1:35:15
it on Rogan. What was that called? Hold on a
1:35:21
second. What was, you know what I should, what am
1:35:24
I even thinking? Where's the book of knowledge? Book of
1:35:30
knowledge should tell me. What was the DEI scale that
1:35:34
BlackRock and Larry Fink put into place that companies had
1:35:38
to adhere to? Let's see what the book of knowledge
1:35:41
says. I need to give you the book of knowledge
1:35:44
there. Okay. Here it comes. Will he get it? I
1:35:48
don't know. It's a little dusty. Haven't used it in
1:35:52
a while. I'm not so sure he's going to... Need
1:35:56
more electricity. I need a nuclear power plant. Right, in
1:36:01
the backyard. But you could do that in Texas. According
1:36:04
to the Book of Knowledge, the instrument wielded by Larry
1:36:08
Fink was not a DEI-specific scale of his own making.
1:36:12
But rather the broader ESG scoring system, a 0 to
1:36:16
10 scale mapped to MSCI ESG letter ratings, running from
1:36:22
AAA for leaders down to CCC for laggards, through which
1:36:26
BlackRock, as a shareholder, used its enormous leverage to... There
1:36:30
you go. There you go. The ESG score, that's what
1:36:34
it was. That was it. Yeah. But the push for
1:36:36
electricity is interesting, especially when they started throwing EVs at
1:36:40
everybody while the power grids were basically failing. So here's
1:36:44
your answer. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. and even Zuckerberg he sees
1:36:51
it coming he wrote a manifesto like a mass shooter
1:36:56
he wrote a manifesto well anybody is able to code
1:36:59
and do it right from their own home It's the
1:37:02
release of Muse Glimmer. It's accompanied by a 14-page essay.
1:37:05
The gayest name ever for a model. Muse Glimmer. Muse
1:37:10
Glimmer. It's the release of Muse Glimmer. It's accompanied by
1:37:14
a 14-page essay from Meta-CEO Mark Zuckerberg, where he lays
1:37:17
out his vision for the future of AI, and he's
1:37:19
saying it's to push to democratize the technology. now to
1:37:23
Chief Technology Correspondent for Axios, Ina Fried. So Ina, it's
1:37:27
a manifesto. Makes it seem like a huge deal. Manifesto.
1:37:31
What's in it? Well, he's trying to address a few
1:37:34
different things here. He's trying to counter the Doomerism first
1:37:38
and foremost. He's trying to paint an optimistic vision for
1:37:42
what AI is gonna bring. So the first thing he
1:37:45
really tries to do is contrast himself with the people
1:37:48
that are saying, this is something you need to worry
1:37:51
about. And so he goes point by point around the
1:37:53
environmental concerns, working with communities where there's data centers. talks
1:37:58
about cybersecurity and how AI can be a good thing.
1:38:02
He talks about jobs and how it's going to create
1:38:05
new entrepreneurial opportunities, even as it does perhaps get rid
1:38:09
of some of the traditional jobs that we're used to.
1:38:12
So that's one big point. The other is to say,
1:38:15
look, we're back in the game. Meta has been behind
1:38:19
in AI. They spent a fortune to bring in alexander
1:38:21
wang he's been leading an effort for around a year
1:38:24
ish now to kind of rebuild from the ground up
1:38:26
and they're saying look we have something worth checking out
1:38:30
and they're returning to open source and then the last
1:38:32
thing he wanted to do was push back a little
1:38:35
bit on the government yeah Because, you know, all these
1:38:38
companies like, oh, we need government. We need labels on
1:38:41
the on the gay eye. Well, they're begging for guardrails
1:38:45
and somebody else can make those hard decisions. Yes. A
1:38:48
moat, as we call it in the business. A moat.
1:38:50
We need a moat. So I think it's great. You
1:38:54
know, anyone who's messed around with some. I'm not a
1:38:57
coder. But I've built all kinds of fun stuff that
1:39:01
is useful that I'm selling to actual customers. And that's
1:39:05
what AI is good for, for things that have come
1:39:08
before. It is not good for things that haven't already
1:39:11
existed. I mean, if you're building something with packages with
1:39:16
code that have already been tested out, makes perfect sense
1:39:20
if you really go out of the box it's harder
1:39:23
for these things to look at what i built for
1:39:25
you it's amazing i mean i it took me 20
1:39:28
minutes i'm like hey i i got this i got
1:39:32
this uh soundboard and i have my clip set up
1:39:35
and i want darren to be able to access it
1:39:37
on the web boom It's like, it works. Yeah. Yeah.
1:39:42
Let's see. But people have done this before. People have
1:39:45
created soundboards not exactly in the same way. They've played,
1:39:49
put together play out systems. So anything that's been done
1:39:53
that it can access that code. I mean, the best
1:39:56
example is having a username and password login. It's used
1:39:59
on every
1:40:00
The code's already out there. The AI can implement that
1:40:03
code into your project. And it really is just like
1:40:06
making every little piece of code a puzzle piece. Well,
1:40:11
I think what's nice about it is you can streamline
1:40:15
your business. Oh, yeah. So, an example. So, I've been
1:40:21
doing this show with Pastor Jimmy called We Get to
1:40:23
Do This. I've been doing this for, we now have
1:40:25
45 episodes in. And, uh... You know, seeing as my
1:40:29
situation is changing and I'm being pushed out by two
1:40:32
other guys who are taking over the show. Yeah, well,
1:40:35
you know, I would say you're old, but Larry's older,
1:40:37
so we can't use that. It's like, I got to
1:40:40
do value for value. And, you know, and I said
1:40:42
to Tina, okay, you're back office. She's like, what? Yeah.
1:40:45
You know, what work and, and she, no, she doesn't
1:40:48
mind work, but you know, she's, she's good at writing
1:40:51
newsletters and doing that stuff. But you know, when you
1:40:55
have to pull in Stripe and, and, um, and PayPal
1:40:59
and donations. And so I just sat down and went,
1:41:02
okay, we're a little business here. Um, Robot, I call
1:41:07
all of my AIs robot, robot, make me a system
1:41:10
that pulls in the donations, makes it into a nice
1:41:14
spreadsheet, orders it this way, put the notes into it.
1:41:17
And, you know, the robot said, okay, I need some
1:41:21
API tokens. Okay, how do I do that? Click here,
1:41:24
click there. Okay, boff. Click, click, copy, paste. And then
1:41:29
it says, do you have a website? I said, no,
1:41:32
but you can put it on the, I got a
1:41:35
computer. Okay, I'll put it on this computer. And it
1:41:38
just built it. And I just type in donations, all
1:41:41
uppercase, and it brings it in and it's done. And
1:41:45
that saves money. a marriage yeah oh absolutely it's weight
1:41:51
in gold with these new enterprises will you be doing
1:41:54
any cookie stuffing like phoebe gates oh man i hope
1:41:57
so yeah don't do that no i love the cookie
1:42:02
stuff the stuff isn't that great yeah it's like here's
1:42:05
an affiliate program and i'm gonna steal your uh your
1:42:08
money yeah It's awesome. You've got to explain that. You've
1:42:11
got to explain what's going on with that. I don't
1:42:13
know if I can do it, but I think she's
1:42:15
probably going to do less time than Fauci. That's just
1:42:18
my bet. But they're saying she's up for perhaps 20
1:42:20
years. I don't see that happening. Really? Yeah. Yeah. Wow.
1:42:24
Fia, the AI shopping assistant co-founded by 23-year-old Phoebe Gates
1:42:28
and Sophie Kiani, allegedly used cookie stuffing to claim commissions
1:42:32
on sales that didn't drive. Or like honey. That was
1:42:35
the same deal with honey. Yeah, honey was the same
1:42:37
thing. So basically you take the affiliate cookies, browser cookies,
1:42:42
and then you just use them and so whenever someone
1:42:45
is buying something through that you hijack it. Yeah, it's
1:42:50
great. Yeah, America, baby. That's how we roll. She should
1:42:54
go to jail for sure. But that's the beauty of
1:42:58
these AI systems. You can pull in your spreadsheet from
1:43:02
PayPal or wherever and just go, you figure it out.
1:43:05
Okay, to round out this tech segment, both of you
1:43:08
are old enough to remember dial-up modems. Certainly. Okay. uh
1:43:15
larry what was the speed of the first modem you
1:43:18
ever used do you remember oh my god i'm gonna
1:43:21
say it was i think it was something in the
1:43:24
teens was it like 16 was it b-a-u-d did that
1:43:27
mean something no you're in the bods okay bods don't
1:43:29
count you were on bulletin boards trading porn no i'm
1:43:32
talking about to connect to the internet To connect to
1:43:35
the internet. I don't remember. I don't know. Do you
1:43:39
think 1200 baud sounds right? Maybe, maybe. Well, listen and
1:43:44
tell me if this sounds familiar to you. Okay. Oh
1:43:48
yeah, you've got mail! That was 1,200 baud per second.
1:43:57
Now, I'm sure you had a 2,400 baud. This is
1:44:01
what that sounded like. Oh, yeah, that's more like it,
1:44:09
with that little group in there. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah.
1:44:15
I like that Bemrose is triggered. That's not hard to
1:44:19
do. All right. So these things eventually, so that was
1:44:22
24. Then we went... I think we might have had
1:44:26
48, then we had 96, then 14.4, 28.8, 33.6, then
1:44:32
we had 56KV.90. I don't know if anybody remembers this,
1:44:38
but here's what I want to test. Tell me the
1:44:42
speed of the following modem. Are you ready? Sure. *BEEP*
1:44:56
*Bell rings* 28 age. All right, what was the speed
1:45:11
of that modem? Not 28.8, was that faster? 28.8, you
1:45:15
nailed it, 28.8. I might write some lyrics to that.
1:45:20
I started with a 300-bought acoustic coupler. Ah, that sounded
1:45:25
like this. Here you go. Just very slow. Very slow.
1:45:32
But it was great because you actually had to put
1:45:34
the phone handset in and you could hear it. Into
1:45:36
the cradle. Into the cradle. I still have my TRS-100,
1:45:42
which is a laptop-sized device that had an eight-line LCD
1:45:48
display. And you could do, the journalists had this, you
1:45:53
could do, you could write documents and you could run
1:45:57
some basic programs and it had an acoustic coupler. and
1:46:02
which i also have and then later it had a
1:46:04
built-in modem and i think that was 300 baud and
1:46:07
you could dial into the newsroom that was way better
1:46:09
because with the acoustic couplers you couldn't even play your
1:46:13
music loud i mean it would screw everything up all
1:46:16
right here's the one that we probably all remember this
1:46:19
is the 56k *Bell rings* Ah, good times. Now I
1:46:38
wonder what game is really in there. I'm pretty surprised
1:46:43
you got the 28-8, Darren. That was pretty good. Hey,
1:46:45
when you've been using them as long, they all have
1:46:48
a distinct little sound to them. And there were wars.
1:46:53
Gosh, I wish John was here. There were wars with
1:46:56
different modem vendors. Like, no, no, no, you got, we
1:46:58
have the V. Hayes had their Hayes compatible. system and
1:47:04
US Robotics they came out with the V.92 I think
1:47:08
right where they were throwing like compression in to try
1:47:10
to make it faster oh yeah how often did you
1:47:14
upgrade your your modems Well, they stopped after a while.
1:47:18
No, they stopped. Wow. I think they went, didn't we
1:47:20
at one point have 112, but it was kind of
1:47:23
unreliable? Yeah, I never went to that. I went from
1:47:26
56 and then had AT&T at home came in with
1:47:30
one megabit down or 1.5 megabit down. Oh, man. Wait,
1:47:33
when was that? Oh, that had to be... What, 2000?
1:47:40
Oh, okay. No, I'm talking 90s. In the 90s, I
1:47:44
had a 56K frame relay dedicated line, which was cool.
1:47:53
Because you didn't have to dial up. It was just
1:47:55
on all the time. And there was no, you know,
1:47:57
no charge. But still, if you... ISPs at the time
1:48:01
got very angry if you stayed out all day and
1:48:03
all night. Mm-hmm. And then at a certain point, with
1:48:07
my company OnRamp, we had Molson Ice as a client.
1:48:14
And they had the Molson Ice Polar Beach Party. Remember
1:48:19
they had Polar Ice, Molson, Molson Ice, Polar Ice? And
1:48:23
so we built the website, which we easily charged $50,000
1:48:27
a month for. It was such a good time. Now
1:48:31
you just, Chad GPT, make a website. And we had
1:48:36
to do the prize for these winners today. was a
1:48:41
concert at the North Pole with Metallica, Veruca Salt, and
1:48:47
Hole with Courtney Love, three bands. And it was, it
1:48:51
took to Yuktuk, so the Northwestern territories, you know, we
1:48:56
were like a mile inside the Arctic Circle. And we
1:48:59
had sold, we said, we'll live stream it. Okay. Good
1:49:04
luck with that. Well, which of course the technology at
1:49:08
the time was see you, see me. And, and we
1:49:11
did have, we, we did have PCM streaming audio. So
1:49:15
you could at least get some streaming audio, but yeah.
1:49:18
How are we going to get the connectivity up there?
1:49:21
Right. And we built this thing called the road box.
1:49:24
And the road box was a flight case. And it
1:49:27
had, I think, 30 modems in it. So as long
1:49:30
as we could get, and it mucks them. And then
1:49:34
on the, at our office, we had a DMUX, so
1:49:36
we had, you know, 30 modems on the other end,
1:49:39
and so it would, you take these 30 modems, and
1:49:45
we were able to get phone lines, because there was
1:49:48
an oil drilling station up there, so we got the
1:49:50
phone lines, plugged them all in. And then, you know,
1:49:53
that combined created, I don't know, created enough, like probably
1:49:58
half a megabit or so in order
1:50:00
To stream the CUCME and the audio back to home
1:50:02
base. And it worked. It worked. That's crazy. 30 modems,
1:50:06
30 phone lines. And it somehow worked? And Lars was
1:50:11
a real wussy boy. He was complaining the whole trip.
1:50:15
Always complaining, complaining. Courtney Love was crazy. She didn't care.
1:50:21
She's like, I'm going to jump into the Arctic for
1:50:23
water here. That's great. Calm down, Courtney. Calm down. Yeah,
1:50:27
good times. It was a little chilly. Yeah, well, you
1:50:32
got to dip your toe into the North Pole water,
1:50:36
of course. It did that. And, you know, it was
1:50:38
daylight, 23 hours of the day. And we're up there
1:50:42
and, you know, there's no alcohol. It was a complete
1:50:46
dry village, Tuk-Tiuk-Tuk. Oh, no. No. And so it's like
1:50:50
11 at night and, you know, we're all we're all
1:50:53
out of our minds jet lagged and we're like, you
1:50:55
know, we've got to get some alcohol. And these kids
1:50:58
are riding their bikes around 11 at night. It's, you
1:51:01
know, it's broad daylight. Hey, kid, let me ask you
1:51:03
something. Oh, you want alcohol? That guy over there. Go
1:51:07
visit him over there. Yeah. Man, I'd forgotten that story.
1:51:13
That's why you're writing a book. Any evidence of UFOs
1:51:17
or the thing up there in the Arctic Circle? Nah,
1:51:19
nothing like that. No, nothing like that. Nothing like that.
1:51:23
And now, thanks to Elon, you just can get satellite
1:51:25
connectivity in broadcast. Yeah, it's true. Yeah, I've actually just
1:51:30
turned my, you know, we're tightening the belt here in
1:51:33
the hill country. It's like, do I really need this
1:51:36
$150 a month backup satellite thing, the Starlink? You can
1:51:42
put it on sleep mode for $10 a month. That's
1:51:45
not bad. We're supposed to be getting, they ran the
1:51:48
cables, finally getting fiber in October. So I'm counting down
1:51:53
the days. Yeah, no, we got, we got five gigabit
1:51:56
fiber here. It's fantastic. It's, uh, you know, it's part
1:52:00
of the, uh, rural broadband. So we're technically rural, and
1:52:05
so all of your government money that's supposed to go
1:52:09
to poor people in the middle of America is going
1:52:11
to the billionaires in Fredericksburg. Five gig up and down.
1:52:16
Oh, yeah, it's disgusting. But at least you have broadband.
1:52:19
That's all that matters. They can put it on the
1:52:21
map. I do. I'm running a server farm here, baby.
1:52:25
Another big scam. All of the rural broadband. That's, again,
1:52:30
follow the money if there is any. All right, what
1:52:35
else you got? What do we got? I got, let's
1:52:39
see, I have one from, this is always kind of
1:52:42
fun. There's a U.S. Air Force former secretary now suing
1:52:47
the government. Did you hear about this guy? No. No.
1:52:50
Yeah, his name is Frank Henry. And his security clearance
1:52:57
was pulled about, I don't know, eight months ago. And
1:53:00
so he's very, he's upset about that and he's suing
1:53:03
the government because, you know, he's entitled to that, I
1:53:07
guess. It comes as former Air Force Secretary Frank Kendall
1:53:11
is speaking out for the first time here on Outfront
1:53:13
after the Trump administration revoked his security clearance over his
1:53:17
comments to media outlets about Trump's new Qatari-gifted Air Force
1:53:20
One. Frank Kendall is now Outfront, the former Air Force
1:53:24
Secretary and now author of Lethal Autonomy, the Future of
1:53:27
Warfare, Whether We Like It or Not. And Secretary Kendall,
1:53:31
I greatly appreciate your time, and I do want to
1:53:33
get your reaction to this Washington Post reporting, because it's
1:53:36
literally just crossing moments before you came on the air.
1:53:39
First though, I just have to ask you, you know,
1:53:42
your reaction. When you first see the post from the
1:53:45
Pentagon that states that you, former Air Force Secretary, have
1:53:49
lost your classified status, it's been revoked effective immediately. What
1:53:56
did you think and did you find out from that
1:53:59
post? Well, Aaron, it certainly made my weekend more interesting.
1:54:04
I found out about it. My wife and I were
1:54:05
at a cooking class. I'd given her for a couple's
1:54:08
cooking class. I'd given her as a gift for her
1:54:09
birthday. Stop. So our phones were off. Okay. Garrett, so
1:54:14
the guy's flogging a book. Let's remember that. Number one,
1:54:16
he's flogging a book. And it's probably the worst book
1:54:18
ever written because he's bloviating. Okay. Nobody cares about he
1:54:22
was at a cooking class when the call came in
1:54:25
saying your clearance has been pulled, you know, and the
1:54:28
guy goes on and on to to complain about this.
1:54:31
And so he's kind of in the O'Reilly League for
1:54:35
bloviating, I think. And so that's what he's mad about.
1:54:39
But here's what bugged me when I saw this. I
1:54:42
thought, you know, I was with a couple of Fortune
1:54:44
500 companies, and when the ride was over, it was,
1:54:47
give us your credit card. Your expense account is canceled.
1:54:50
Your email's been deleted. And thank you very much, and
1:54:53
maybe you'll see your pension in 20 years. You know,
1:54:55
that was it. But these government guys, I guess, They
1:54:59
consider, you know, it just keeps rolling on. And apparently,
1:55:03
having that security clearance entitles him to all kinds of
1:55:07
government consulting, advisory boards, and, you know, roles with defense
1:55:11
contractors. He can, you know, just pass the blather and
1:55:14
collect some nice checks for being an alleged wired-in expert,
1:55:18
you know. Well, yeah, because we're in the wrong business.
1:55:22
Yeah, exactly. Yeah. then i checked about he said he's
1:55:25
going to sue them right so i saw a legal
1:55:27
thing that said the supreme court held in department of
1:55:31
the navy versus egan in 1988 that quote no one
1:55:34
has a right to a security clearance and the decisions
1:55:38
about access to classified information are committed to the executive
1:55:43
branch's broad discretion Now, do you normally keep security clearances
1:55:48
once you are retired? Apparently... A lot of these guys
1:55:52
do. And if you recall, I think Hillary was ticked
1:55:55
off when Trump pulled hers after he was elected. Yeah,
1:55:58
a whole bunch. Yeah, a whole bunch. Yeah, but she
1:56:00
didn't speak about suing anyone. This is new with this
1:56:02
guy. But that's part of the gig, is you keep
1:56:06
your security clearance so you're on all the cool email
1:56:09
lists and you use that and you're consulting. Yeah, that's
1:56:11
great. Yeah, yeah. Then you can go on Fox News
1:56:14
and MS Now and spew things and everybody gets a
1:56:17
little piece. Yeah. Are you guys going to bring someone
1:56:21
in on Sunday? We had Steve Jones just volunteered today,
1:56:26
which... Steve is great. He said he bought the whole
1:56:31
podfather, Mochu, Ari 320, so he said he's all set.
1:56:36
I have no idea how he sounds. I've never spoken
1:56:39
to him. He's been helping me for, man, I want
1:56:42
to say at least three years, maybe four years with
1:56:46
clips. He's the guy that got John's three-by-threes. Oh, really?
1:56:51
Yeah. Yeah, he would always do the three by threes
1:56:53
for John and he would pull the Sunday morning things
1:56:57
for me, you know, the early Sunday morning shows. Steve
1:57:00
is good. Well, of course, he might sound like Mickey
1:57:03
Mouse. We need processing and it'll be fine. I encourage
1:57:08
you guys to work with some of these no agenda
1:57:10
nation people. This is you know, we were creating a
1:57:13
kind of a new format with the show and I'm
1:57:15
liking what I'm hearing. I said I know he would
1:57:18
bring his own clips. I like it. That helps. Yeah.
1:57:21
He might have enough clips for everybody for the show.
1:57:23
Really? But he says, I'm like, he's pretty good at
1:57:26
it. He's pretty good at it. And get some women
1:57:28
in there. Where are the women? Hey, I put a
1:57:30
word out. I don't know if she got the message
1:57:32
yet, but dang, Jennifer, I was the first one Larry
1:57:34
and I thought of for, uh, sitting in. You know,
1:57:38
from animated, no agenda film. Yeah, absolutely. Adding a different
1:57:43
voice that, you know, has less testosterone might be. Yes,
1:57:46
she definitely. A preferred way to go. Yeah. A low
1:57:50
voice doesn't mean you have high testosterone. You both sound
1:57:54
pretty low T to me. Yeah, maybe it was very,
1:57:56
very, very tired. And that's probably all the mainstream media.
1:58:01
Yeah. It's those modems you fool around with. It'll get
1:58:04
to you though, right? You're watching this stuff all day
1:58:06
long. It tires you out. It's amazing. Because you can't
1:58:11
believe it is repeating itself over and over and over.
1:58:16
I've got one more here. This is a Julian Epstein,
1:58:19
no relation, I'm assuming. Yeah. He is a Clinton attorney.
1:58:22
He was the one that when Bill was going through
1:58:25
his little problem with Monica Lewinsky, I think he was
1:58:28
one of the attorneys. He was the attorney when Hillary
1:58:32
ran for president and his view of the current media
1:58:35
situation I thought was interesting. You rely on MSNBC for
1:58:40
news. I think you're basically illiterate and uninformed about what's
1:58:44
going on. I think that's somewhat, it's less true for
1:58:47
CNN, but also true. Julian Epstein, I'm a longtime Democrat.
1:58:51
I was formerly the chief counsel of the House Judiciary
1:58:54
Committee and the staff director of the House Oversight Committee
1:58:57
for the Democrats. Yeah. I'm the former CEO of the
1:59:00
consulting firm LMG, which represented, amongst other people, Hillary Clinton
1:59:07
for president. And a number of other Democrats. Mainstream media
1:59:11
is sort of covering the Democratic infighting and hinting at
1:59:15
the possibility of a civil war. We are in a
1:59:17
civil war right now. And I think the news media
1:59:19
is missing that. I know, saying the quiet parts out
1:59:23
loud. Really? What? Civil War, what? Democrats? No, they're all...
1:59:28
Just, Larry particularly, just love your neighbor. Love your enemies.
1:59:33
You know what, when you show them love, it's like
1:59:39
pouring hot coals on their head. It is... I've tried
1:59:43
this, it's really fun. Just love them. You know, my
1:59:47
route is this, Adam, I pull a ball cap low
1:59:53
on my head like some movie star. I put on
1:59:56
my mirrored sunglasses, put the buds in my ears.
2:00:00
Then I said moose on bark at anything, and I
2:00:02
walked down the street and no one ever speaks to
2:00:05
me, and I'm good with that. - Why are you
2:00:07
in Connecticut? That's a great question. That's not a great
2:00:11
question. Because he went from California to small steps. You
2:00:14
walked right into that one. Yeah. Yeah. Well, you know
2:00:19
what happened? As you know, Los Angeles just went to
2:00:22
hell. and i wanted to leave and then suddenly i
2:00:25
found both my daughters were on the east coast and
2:00:28
my wife was kind of fond of this area she
2:00:30
used to come up here in the summertime as a
2:00:33
kid okay are you near armonk at all Well, I'm
2:00:36
probably 100 miles from that. That's IBM. Oh, okay. Oh,
2:00:39
you got a beach house. It's Larry in the beach
2:00:43
house. Nice. But he's in the basement because he was
2:00:47
afraid he was going to have people cutting the lawn
2:00:49
again. Oh, there's always somebody cutting a lawn, always. That's
2:00:53
suburbia, baby. That's how it works. That's suburbia, yeah. But
2:00:56
that's what I do. So, you know, that way I
2:00:58
don't have to interface with anyone. Okay, well, you're perfect
2:01:03
for podcasting. You're the perfect guy. Exactly. And I think
2:01:07
the news media is missing that, but I think more
2:01:10
importantly, they're missing the nature of the extremism that is
2:01:13
happening with the left, and they're missing the bigotry that
2:01:19
is emerging on the left scene critical race is basically
2:01:23
a permission slip for more bigotry is to divide. Most
2:01:28
important thing about them is race, and then to start
2:01:31
building public policy around that. That's what critical race is.
2:01:35
And now that they have embraced Islamic extremism, they have
2:01:43
gone one step further into a sectarian, set of beliefs.
2:01:51
And I don't think the news media is covering that.
2:01:54
And they should be covering that. I know, so surprising,
2:01:57
isn't it? Yeah. Well, but this is the ploy. This
2:02:02
is... We love... Pitting people, sides against each other in
2:02:08
America. That's what we do. And so this, that's exactly
2:02:11
where the political Islam is. That's the one. Everyone's only
2:02:16
looking at that issue, not looking at anything else. Right.
2:02:21
It's the whole distraction thing. It is the point. Yeah,
2:02:25
everybody just said this is going back to the weather
2:02:27
underground manifesto. Everybody, it's a black against white as people
2:02:31
against the cops. It's the rich against the poor. As
2:02:34
long as you are creating division, you can get away
2:02:38
with a lot more. And it's interesting when you're seeing
2:02:41
Democrats that are coming out with this. It shows there
2:02:44
is at least some kind of a fracture going on.
2:02:47
How big is it? I don't know. The distraction of
2:02:51
the week on the Woods agenda over there. Let's take
2:02:59
it over. Squirrel. Oh, we're doing a jingle off, are
2:03:04
we? Okay. We're doing nothing to see here. Ooh, look
2:03:08
at that. Uh-huh. That's fully into a zoo. I got
2:03:13
them all, man. I got them all. I got them
2:03:15
all at the ready. Can't wait. I wanted to play
2:03:17
this clip real quick. It's short. Because we were talking
2:03:22
about this on the show in, it must have been
2:03:26
2009, I'm going to say, maybe it was 2008. Dvorak
2:03:29
at the time said, it's never going to happen. It's
2:03:32
never going to go into, I got kicked out of
2:03:34
my house under eminent domain for this thing. and of
2:03:38
course I'm referring to the high-speed rail. The inspector general
2:03:41
for California high-speed rail says the project could run out
2:03:44
of money as soon as December 2027 is part of
2:03:47
the updated review of the project's revised 2026 business plan.
2:03:51
The inspector general says the plan still has major gaps
2:03:53
in information and violates California state law. The lack of
2:03:57
cash means the project could face a financial crisis unless
2:04:00
lawmakers and the governor address it by the end of
2:04:03
the legislative session the session closes at the end of
2:04:06
this month it's like 15 years and the thing goes
2:04:10
to bakersfield or something like that it goes nowhere goes
2:04:13
nowhere and I think there are already some insane amount
2:04:17
80, 90 billion in the hole on it and there's
2:04:19
been a little bit of like concrete superstructure built out
2:04:23
in the middle of nowhere surrounded by mud and and
2:04:26
I checked on this the first high speed rail was
2:04:29
built in Japan begun in 1956 I think it was
2:04:33
completed in like 1958 or 59 how about that it's
2:04:37
still running well now there's a third party that's doing
2:04:40
one from is it LA to Vegas oh yeah oh
2:04:44
please supposedly allegedly allegedly That's a five-hour drive, and it's
2:04:49
a rite of passage. It is. It should never be
2:04:52
done by train. You've got to drive it in your
2:04:55
rented convertible. Right. That's what you do. That's what you
2:04:59
do. Or your Tesla. It'll just drive you. I talked
2:05:03
to the back office. And Sir Paul Couture, who we
2:05:09
know from NoAgendaArtGenerator.com, has created a special memorial challenge coin.
2:05:20
of JCD. Very nice. And I can't wait for everybody
2:05:26
to see these. It is just an unbelievably beautiful coin.
2:05:32
I want him to get them numbered so you can
2:05:34
get a number. And we'll figure out how we're going
2:05:37
to do that. And then we also have, I think
2:05:41
we're going to do for people who complete their knighthood.
2:05:44
So if you're close, you'll like this. An order of
2:05:47
the ant. pin. That's cool. I like that. Are you
2:05:52
going to put in the little micro piezo speaker, whatever
2:05:57
they call that, that plays the goddamn... That'd be great.
2:06:01
Either that or a little lighter, because you've got to
2:06:04
torch them. You've got to torch them. So you guys
2:06:10
want to do donations? Is it that time? I haven't
2:06:12
kept track of the time. Do you have anything else,
2:06:15
Larry? If you want a quickie from our buddy Hassan
2:06:19
Piker. Oh, yeah. Well, why not end with a good
2:06:22
commie? Explain this guy to me. What's up with this
2:06:25
Hassan Piker guy? Yeah. You know, I'm trying to figure
2:06:28
that out myself, Adam, because he's really, he reminds me
2:06:32
of, remember this was a character named Destiny? He's kind
2:06:36
of a lefty, very lefty guy. And this is like
2:06:39
a larger version of him, but he's become way more
2:06:42
popular. I don't understand why, because he's completely negative. He's
2:06:46
got a very snotty sort of attitude all the time.
2:06:50
And like all commies, he is a fake commie, as
2:06:54
this clip will demonstrate. At what point does your very
2:06:58
expensive home stop being a basic human necessity and something
2:07:02
that essentially reinforces the very system that you're critiquing? I
2:07:06
don't think the purchases that you make necessarily, I mean,
2:07:09
if you're buying a private jet, it's a little different,
2:07:12
but I don't think the purchases that you make, as
2:07:15
long as you're... So, you hear that? You can buy
2:07:18
anything except a private jet. That's going too far. You
2:07:21
can buy a million-dollar house. Yes, you can buy Zuckerberg's
2:07:24
yacht. But what he's talking about here is this guy,
2:07:27
he has a $2.7 million house in West Hollywood, like
2:07:32
five bedrooms, baths, swimming pools, and so forth. Where does
2:07:34
he get that from? From doing what? Exactly. His podcast.
2:07:36
Well, he's an influencer. obviously. He's an influencer. Oh, man.
2:07:40
Yeah, yeah. I got to get me an Instagram account.
2:07:43
This is no good. It's crazy. If you go commie,
2:07:46
the money is there for some reason. I don't understand.
2:07:48
Exactly, yeah. And he should be giving it all away,
2:07:51
shouldn't he? Absolutely. Not using it to engage in capital
2:07:56
accumulation imply, you know, something less ethical than whatever purchase
2:08:03
they're making in general. I have a house. The reason
2:08:06
why it's so expensive is because it's in West Hollywood.
2:08:10
that's the West Hollywood yeah that's why that's good it'd
2:08:14
be even more expensive if it was in Beverly Hills
2:08:16
which is adjacent to that that's great that's why you
2:08:19
don't have to live there oh you gotta love that
2:08:22
that's funny good for him And West Hollywood is the
2:08:28
equivalent of the Castro in San Francisco. Lisa used to
2:08:31
be very, very gay. Socialism but at the same time
2:08:35
Is buying multi-million dollar homes And his exact words are
2:08:38
It's okay if I do it As long as you
2:08:41
don't do capital accumulation Well, capital accumulation Means that you
2:08:45
have a very large net worth Let's just see how
2:08:48
much he's worth If we look at his net worth,
2:08:51
we're looking at around an estimate of $20 to $35
2:08:54
million. To me, that seems like you're accumulating a pretty
2:08:59
large amount of capital. If we look at his income,
2:09:01
he's making $2.8 million in just a couple of years
2:09:05
from things like subscriptions and donations. And if we look
2:09:08
at how much does he actually make per year, according
2:09:11
to sources, it looks like he averages in the four
2:09:14
plus million dollar range in recent years. So that seems
2:09:19
to me like he is benefiting pretty well on the
2:09:21
capitalist system, yet he's pushing socialism. Yeah. Oh, he's Thanksgiving
2:09:27
and outlaw boomers. that's him too he's uh he's he's
2:09:32
chunk's uh nephew is he yes yes he got his
2:09:36
start ah he was at the young turks oh correct
2:09:39
yeah and by the way the name piker is also
2:09:43
a word and it means penny ante gambler so nice
2:09:50
Very nice. Yeah, I think that wraps it up. -
2:09:56
Yeah, you gotta go count me, man. - Yeah, you
2:09:59
have to.
2:10:00
Well, we should go commie, but I will start us
2:10:03
off with our donation segment here, because this is and
2:10:07
remains a value for value podcast. You got to support
2:10:10
the work if you want it to continue. Larry and
2:10:14
Darren also value for value on the show now, which
2:10:19
I really appreciate. Did you hear Chris Wilson's intro to
2:10:24
the donation segment the other day? I did not. Was
2:10:28
that Sunday? Because I dropped off after we were done.
2:10:31
Yes, it's just a quick little bit. Yeah, play it.
2:10:33
It's very Chris Wilson. This is your amygdala. Shut up,
2:10:36
son. This is the mainstream media. We are concerned about
2:10:40
the trouble and trying to be responsible. One-sided news stories
2:10:43
played in our country. This is your amygdala without no
2:10:46
agenda. Any questions? No questions. Oh, man. Oh, man. Well,
2:10:55
time, talent, and treasure is how you support the show,
2:10:57
your time and your talent. You can tell somebody about
2:11:00
the podcast, tell someone about the show. You can send
2:11:02
them boots on the ground report. That's how I got
2:11:05
my information about the podcast. about the power and the
2:11:09
GE turbines. We get these from our producers who are
2:11:11
right in the field, who know exactly what's going on.
2:11:14
You can do other things like create artwork for the
2:11:17
show, which I've not been involved in the selection for
2:11:21
the past shows. And I have to say, I thought
2:11:24
the last one that you guys chose for episode 1893,
2:11:28
titled En Banc, which the constitutional lawyer sent us a,
2:11:32
a mini war in peace. Yes. And I, it was,
2:11:36
maybe it was the formatting of the email, but I
2:11:39
was, I like, I, my eyes started to glaze over.
2:11:42
Did you guys get what he was saying? I kind
2:11:44
of, and then he had the PDFs of what it
2:11:47
was, um, But it was just, again, a case of
2:11:51
a literal swinging dick story, which was interesting. I don't
2:11:55
think I saw that email. Would expect nothing short of
2:11:58
that from the constitutional lawyer. From the constitutional lawyer. You
2:12:01
know, he hasn't... You got to look at his Instagram.
2:12:04
Okay. He's in boots and suits. Because he's, you know,
2:12:08
he's like, you got the... You got the big guys
2:12:11
who just want to settle quick. And you got us.
2:12:14
He's got his cowboy hat on. He's got his boots
2:12:16
on. And we'll go for the top money. Have you
2:12:20
been hurt on the job? Call us. Boots and suits.
2:12:24
Yeah. So Scaramanga did this one. Yes. Yeah. And I've
2:12:30
kind of missed the conversation about the guy who wants
2:12:33
to be in the WNBA. What's his name? There were
2:12:38
several... And as freedom guy, then there was there was
2:12:42
a couple of them at least. And then it seemed
2:12:44
like there may have been more. And it was basically
2:12:47
trying to make the WNBA make a rule that says
2:12:50
dudes can't play. But of course, they're. Not doing it.
2:12:53
No, I think this is great. This is almost like
2:12:56
the shop teacher who was wearing the huge fake boobs.
2:13:00
Remember that? Yeah, it's in Wisconsin. Yeah. I was insistent
2:13:03
that both... Darren and Adam apply as well. Imagine how
2:13:07
famous you'd both be. We got the height. Both six
2:13:10
foot five. You're tall enough, right? So just demand that.
2:13:12
Come on. Yes. Yes. Okay. Thanks. We're starting the Podcaster
2:13:16
Basketball League. Yeah. I have to move to San Antonio.
2:13:21
Play for the Spurs. But the Saks. I mean, that...
2:13:25
Right there. Go for the joke. That's what we learned
2:13:27
from the art. It was good. You can JCD always
2:13:30
go for the joke and that sold it. The team
2:13:33
name being the sacks. And in a fun way, it
2:13:36
was, uh, uh, you know, it was John's favorite kind
2:13:39
of, uh, kind of art. Yeah. Yeah, the little cheesecake.
2:13:43
Cheesecake. Just a different, maybe a little different cheesecake. Cheesecake
2:13:48
with a 10 o'clock shadow. I would say he's rolling
2:13:50
over. He would probably say, this is grotesque. We can't
2:13:53
use this. He might. Yeah. He might not be wrong.
2:13:58
scaramanga good job man do it do you guys review
2:14:01
the uh the other arts we both really like the
2:14:04
capitalist agenda honoring jcd but it was too small for
2:14:07
album art but we both agreed it would be nice
2:14:10
as a print with the diner setting the classic uh
2:14:15
um blanking on the artist name that did it looking
2:14:18
into the diner at night i was edwin hopper style
2:14:22
that classic uh you know it's usually bogart maryl monroe
2:14:25
and you know it's been reconfigured a thousand ways look
2:14:29
oh i see it oh yeah yeah yeah yeah it
2:14:32
was too small too small too small I like the
2:14:36
Etch-a-Sketch a lot, but not... The Etch-a-Sketch is great. I
2:14:39
think Jay used it in the newsletter. She did. I
2:14:42
think it's a cool image. Yeah, it's the official no
2:14:45
agenda phone. Also Capital Agenda. So he's doing good work.
2:14:50
And you know what? Once JCD was gone, the real
2:14:53
artist came back. Coincidence? I think not. They didn't like
2:14:59
to be. I'd be rated. Be rated. Be rated. Something
2:15:04
up with that. Something up with that. Hey, I'm telling
2:15:07
you. Of course. Some of the days JCD really ripped
2:15:10
into me were the days he was like, hey, can
2:15:13
you make me some art? Oh, yeah, I'm sure. I'm
2:15:15
sure. I'm sure. Like, it's a bit. Come on. We
2:15:19
got good support today. I'm really grateful for people who
2:15:23
understand that if you want the show to continue, and
2:15:26
now there's, you know, we're sharing this with Larry and
2:15:29
Darren. So there's now... Four families and 18 children, depending
2:15:35
on your support of the No Agenda Show. And we
2:15:39
thank Randy Filkins from Wellsburg, West Virginia, who comes in,
2:15:45
boom, with $1,000 plus fees, $1,052.62. And he has a
2:15:50
prayer. Heavenly Father, I pray you place your hand on
2:15:55
the hearts of JCD's family and friends and guide them
2:15:57
through their pain and loss. Amen. Thank you, Randy. That
2:16:01
is very, very kind of you. Wow. And that helps.
2:16:04
It does. We've been doing a lot of praying for
2:16:07
JCD, a lot of praying for the family, praying for
2:16:11
other families as well, like Horowitz, Horowitz. You know, it's
2:16:14
been a big loss for Horowitz. Their show was going
2:16:17
on almost as long as No Agenda. You know, and,
2:16:21
and I know because, you know, Horowitz is calling a
2:16:24
couple of times a week, Brunetti's calling a couple of
2:16:27
times a week. These, you know, they had real relationships
2:16:30
with John that went beyond my, I probably talked to
2:16:33
John longer on a weekly basis, but they talked to
2:16:35
him often. Yeah, it's a different dynamic, and it's for
2:16:40
Horowitz, it's like, JCD is not replaceable. Somebody said, oh,
2:16:45
it took at least two guys to replace JCD, and
2:16:47
yeah, it probably could be three or four or more.
2:16:50
And that's the thing, it's like, my grieving is not
2:16:53
just for John, the show. I mean... it was we
2:16:58
had a performance together yeah you know like Laurel and
2:17:02
Hardy Lucy and Ricky We were more like Fred and
2:17:06
Ethel, probably. I mean, there were people, again, nothing was
2:17:10
better than JCD being silent for way too long and
2:17:14
then moving on. That was just okay. Well, yeah, at
2:17:18
the end there, he would go, maybe. Maybe. I'm like,
2:17:20
why does maybe, what is maybe, you can't give me
2:17:24
a maybe, there's no maybes in podcast discussions. I love
2:17:27
those broad pauses followed by, okay. Yeah. It's like, if
2:17:32
you want to, if you want to just cut somebody
2:17:35
down, do that. It shows deep contemplation, that's a... using
2:17:40
the silence. It's an art form. Only some can do
2:17:44
it. Next, we have Baronet Surplus to Requirement. Came in
2:17:51
from Indy Atlantic, Florida with 388.88 and says, rest easy,
2:17:58
JCD. You are a legend. Condolences to all. Keep your
2:18:02
chin up sincerely, Baron Surplus to Requirement. Larry, do you
2:18:10
do these at all? I sure do. I sure do.
2:18:13
He looks pretty. That's all. I mean, he's good at
2:18:15
looking pretty. I'm just here for my looks. This is
2:18:18
a Karen B, 33888. Note, see attached, not page two.
2:18:27
Where's that attachment? What was that? what does it say
2:18:35
here when Wiffent Wiffent who when because there was a
2:18:40
PDF of the when I here when I first saw
2:18:42
the picture this is Karen B when I I got
2:18:47
it here When I first saw the picture of John
2:18:51
in the newsletter with his real age, I was taken
2:18:54
aback, given his great voice, wonderful humor, and... Spinnaker? No,
2:19:04
that's probably not it. I can't understand. I don't know
2:19:08
what that word is. I was going with... Oh, spryness.
2:19:12
I was going with 65 years old. I first came
2:19:15
to no agenda during COVID. It helped to maintain my
2:19:18
sanity. I've always... enjoyed the show because there is no
2:19:24
hidden agenda hidden in parens there the best it was
2:19:29
when john and adam were bantering back and forth john
2:19:32
will be greatly missed my deepest sympathy to mimi and
2:19:35
the family and adam from caranby thank you karen with
2:19:38
a 300 338 dollars and 88 cents Then Clint Misenal,
2:19:46
sorry about this, Misenal Saul, Eugene, Oregon, with 333.33 and
2:19:52
no note. Thank you. We have next Paul from Fort
2:19:59
Atkinson, Wisconsin.
2:20:00
Johnson 333.33 oh my lord my lord again says another
2:20:05
attached note page three hmm where is this page three
2:20:08
i'm not seeing it I got it. I'm sorry, I
2:20:11
had a PDF. I thought there was only one. I
2:20:13
must have missed the two and three. Yeah, no, I
2:20:15
got it here. Noah Jen has been a steadfast companion
2:20:18
since discovering the show in 2023. John's entertaining brand of
2:20:22
wit and wisdom will be missed. Godspeed, Dvorak Clan. NPR
2:20:25
is a bad product. Support the No Agenda show. Donate.
2:20:30
Oh, he wants the spooky... Spooky... I have that. I
2:20:36
have a chance. Spooky donate. Spooky donate. You've got The
2:20:42
Donate Donate it's kind of cool Darren we got dueling
2:20:53
setups here I don't know if that's dangerous or good
2:20:56
I don't know yeah And up next, Manuka Gold from
2:21:02
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get them your address. They want to send you some
2:21:37
honey there. Very nice. Yeah, you got to get in
2:21:39
on that. I'm a honey freak. I love this honey.
2:21:42
I can't wait to try it. That's a perk of
2:21:44
being a no agenda podcaster. And I have it on
2:21:46
good authority. It was the last thing John had in
2:21:49
his mouth. So now we know Sinatra last had a
2:21:52
grilled cheese sandwich and Dvorak had honey. That's all you
2:21:55
know. Manuka gold. That's right. 2-3-4-5-6 from ENJ Electric in
2:22:01
Colorado Springs. I wonder what they do. Well, first they
2:22:05
say, happy anniversary, Mimi and John. This is a holdover,
2:22:07
of course. Thank you, Darren and Larry, for stepping up
2:22:10
to the plate. It's good to hear you on the
2:22:12
show again, Adam. Like others have shared, John and Adam
2:22:15
have helped to shape my worldview over the years. I'm
2:22:17
one of those that has occasionally shut off all news
2:22:19
except for the best podcast in the universe. I know
2:22:22
the show will never be the same without John, but
2:22:24
as long as there is no agenda, I'll be here
2:22:26
listening in my truck as I roll out of the
2:22:28
garage every morning. Well, I guess he's an electrician. Looking
2:22:32
to work with anyone in or around Colorado Springs, find
2:22:36
my Google page at ENJElectric, that's the letters, ENJElectric.com. Shoot
2:22:41
me an ITM, we'll get you hooked. Nice. Linda Lupatkin.
2:22:46
I do listen to the show, Adam. Yes. It's this
2:22:50
nice big monitor now I can see it. Uh-huh. From
2:22:53
Castle Rock, Colorado. $200. And Linda says, "Jobs Karma, your
2:23:00
resume has about 10 seconds to make an impression and
2:23:03
most don't." For a resume that gets results, go to
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you noticed, gets you interviews, and gets you hired. That's
2:23:15
ImageMakers with a K, and Linda Liu, Duchess of Jobs
2:23:19
and Writer of Winning Resumes. Now, is this... Jobs, jobs,
2:23:25
jobs, and jobs. Let's vote for jobs! Yay! Was that
2:23:30
the karma one, or is there a jobs, jobs, jobs,
2:23:32
karma, or it's just jobs, jobs, jobs? No, you got
2:23:35
the one. Was that Hillary, or was that... That was
2:23:37
Hillary. No, that's the one. That was Pelosi. Jobs. Yeah,
2:23:40
it's Pelosi. It's Pelosi. That's the right one. That's Pelosi?
2:23:43
Really? Sounds like Hillary. No, it's Pelosi and karma. You
2:23:47
did it. You did it right, man. You nailed it.
2:23:49
Woo! Dame Lisa, Amick Lake, 188.88. I'll do a couple
2:23:56
here. Kevin Redacted from Mommel, Arizona. No, Arkansas, sorry. 105.88.
2:24:06
Laura Nelson, Bixby, Oklahoma, 105.35. With love from our family
2:24:11
to yours. Okay. They could have just been sending some
2:24:16
Harry and David fruit basket. It's the same thing. With
2:24:20
love from our family to yours. David Oliver, Calistoga, California,
2:24:23
$100. Best of the No Agenda team, Larry slash Darren
2:24:27
crushed it. I'll sneak over to Planet Rage. Are you
2:24:30
guys doing Planet Rage while you're doing the show? It's
2:24:32
dead. It's dead. It's dead. Just point your feed to
2:24:37
No Agenda. That's fine. It's been a few weeks. When
2:24:39
we really need to swear, there'll be a Planet Rage
2:24:42
episode as a bonus. Josh Corby, Euless, Texas, 100. Thank
2:24:49
you for your service. Sir Skibbity, $100. Please wish my
2:24:53
sons Jens Mathry... think it is. Happy 20th birthday, celebrated
2:24:58
yesterday on the 12th, from Michelle and Sir Skibity. If
2:25:01
Adam has any hot tips about Jen's testing for his
2:25:04
fixed wing pilot's license in a few weeks, That would
2:25:06
be a bonus. I would say it's for his future
2:25:08
knighthood, but really it's an investment into the continued operation
2:25:12
of both No Agenda and DH Unplugged. Thank you for
2:25:15
your courage and ITM, Sir Skibbidi. Yes, here's the advice.
2:25:21
Don't sweat it because the examiner knows that. that your
2:25:26
pilot's license is really just a license to learn. Don't,
2:25:31
don't think you have to be perfect. When I did
2:25:34
my, I have got my helicopter first and I did
2:25:36
my fixed wing, I bounced all the way in. I
2:25:39
mean, it was, it was a mess and it's okay
2:25:42
because the examiner knows. You know, you're not going to
2:25:45
be flying alone anytime soon in your own airplane because
2:25:49
someone has to sign off on you, even flying in
2:25:51
a rented aircraft. So it's a license to learn. You'll
2:25:55
be fine. Don't sweat it. And they need pilots, so
2:25:59
that's not a bad thing to do. They do. They
2:26:02
do. Keith R. Johnson coming in with $100 from Arlington,
2:26:07
New York, says, Darren and Larry, thanks for filling in
2:26:10
and giving Adam a break. You guys did great. Happy
2:26:13
anniversary. Mimi, our thoughts are with you and your family.
2:26:17
Thank you. Ivan Silva of Norwalk, California. $100. No note.
2:26:23
Thank you, Ivan. suny from muncie indiana 98 33 hope
2:26:28
you're not underwater man we got hit right that was
2:26:31
bad she says i think i sent a note and
2:26:33
a donation but i'm not sure it went through i
2:26:35
still think a what the exact f donation is a
2:26:39
good idea sunny well thank you sunny and sorry for
2:26:42
saying suny Thomas Reynolds of Belafontane, Ohio, 93.64. No, no.
2:26:51
Thank you, Thomas. Christopher Sprata coming in with 9364 from
2:26:56
Moriches, New York. Is that what it is, Larry? Moriches.
2:27:00
Moriches, New York. Thank you. Welcome. Michael Burdett of Arlington,
2:27:06
Washington. 88.88. No note. Thank you, Michael. And Sir Herb
2:27:12
Lamb coming in with 8888 from Hilton Head Island, South
2:27:16
Carolina. Says, sorry for your loss. I've been a fan
2:27:19
of John since the late 80s. Best Sir Herb Lamb.
2:27:24
Thank you, sir. Ryan Tiporton of Burnsville, Minnesota, 88.88. No
2:27:30
note. Thank you, Ryan. Coming in with 8888, also anonymous
2:27:35
in Austin, Texas. No note. Thank you. Hank Van Elk
2:27:41
of Luxemburg. I'm sorry. Eldick, thank you. You want to
2:27:46
finish this one, Adam? Yeah, I will, since I speak
2:27:48
the language. Hank von Eldick in the tax haven of
2:27:51
Luxembourg. No one else lives there but bankers and the
2:27:55
people who service them. 8888, rest in peace, JCD. Still
2:27:59
no words for his loss. My prayers are with you
2:28:01
all. Hank from Luxembourg. James Carter, Spicewood Tech. Texas, right
2:28:05
down the road, 8888, please accept my treasure and deepest
2:28:08
condolences for the entire Dvorak clan. P.S. Adam, my keeper
2:28:12
hit a surprise in the scoreboard at the Arrowhead Bank
2:28:16
there in Freddy to honor JCD. God bless you. What?
2:28:19
What is that all about? That's fascinating. Well, I know
2:28:23
exactly where that is. I hit a surprise in the...
2:28:26
So... Okay. I shall report back. I like that. Maybe
2:28:32
from jail if I'm trying to mess up with this.
2:28:36
Jill Obringer, Wayne, New Jersey. Ah, the fountains of Wayne.
2:28:39
8888. The ghost of JCD told me to donate. He
2:28:44
invaded the Apple HomePod in our bathroom when my husband
2:28:46
and I are sleeping. I said, if this happened three
2:28:49
times, I will donate, and it did. Whatever works. Sir...
2:28:55
10 feet tall. 10 feet tall. Thank you. Of Woodstock,
2:28:58
Georgia, 8888. Thank you, JCD and Dvorak family. Much love
2:29:02
to you and the rest of the Noah Jenner family
2:29:04
from Sir 10 feet tall of Ugnar. Anonymous and Fishers,
2:29:07
Indiana, 8888. These are all 8888s. Dame Teresa Martine from
2:29:12
Camero... Camarillo, California. Ari Kona in Hollywood, Florida. Catherine Girard
2:29:20
in Pahrump, Nevada. Brian Rina in Kingsburg, New Jersey. Carmen
2:29:26
Sue Tyler in New York, New York. Dean Wormel in
2:29:28
Westford, Massachusetts. And Larry, you can take it with Donna.
2:29:33
Donna Walters, Fort Atkinson, Wisconsin, 88.40. Note says, birthday shout
2:29:39
to my son, Ryan. Turn 40 on August 11, 5.08
2:29:42
in the morning. Donna Walters, Fort Atkinson, Wisconsin. Thank you,
2:29:47
Donna. Then Dame Rita Harrington coming in with 88.33 from
2:29:52
Sparks, Nevada. And the note just says, thank you. And
2:29:54
no, thank you. I think I told you I met
2:29:56
her. She was at the memorial.
2:30:00
She's super cute. She looks exactly like a Dame Rita,
2:30:04
like you'd expect her to look. She says, I'm Rita
2:30:06
from Nevada. Wait a minute, Dame Rita. Come here. Bring
2:30:09
it in, girl. She's great. She's great. Cameron Ling. Ling?
2:30:17
North Branch, Minnesota, 8149. Mini show number, ITM. Thanks, Laren
2:30:24
and Darry. Got that, Darry? Yeah. Thank you, Cameron. Very
2:30:27
close. And then, of course, Kevin McLachlan, he comes in
2:30:31
from Concord, North Carolina, lover of boobs, 8008 donation and
2:30:37
says Archduke of Luna, lover of America and boobs. Gilbert
2:30:42
Fraga of Los Angeles, 80.08. No note. Thank you, Gilbert.
2:30:49
Joseph Stegman coming in, also with the 8008 boobs donation
2:30:53
from Thousand Oaks, California. Thank you. Teresa Sebastian of Southbridge,
2:30:58
Massachusetts, $80 even. No note. Thank you, Teresa. dame dana
2:31:04
carroll coming in from laughlin nevada 72 27 thank you
2:31:10
very much stephen shoemake of Xenia, Ohio, 64.80. No note.
2:31:18
Thank you, Stephen. Les Tarkowski coming in with 60.06. A
2:31:21
lot of those palindromes from Kingman, Arizona. It's a small
2:31:25
boob. Small boob. That's small boobs. Small boobs, yes. And
2:31:29
Kingman, Arizona, getting kicks on Route 66. You didn't read
2:31:32
the binder about the show? No, wait, there was a
2:31:35
binder? There was homework? Send it over. It's with the
2:31:39
Book of Knowledge. It'll answer all the questions. Christopher Dechter,
2:31:42
5678. We see what you did there, Christopher. Thank you.
2:31:45
Craig Knowlesley, Cumberland, British Columbia. One more donation for this
2:31:49
month of months. Mostly as an apology for inundating Laren,
2:31:53
Darren, and Darren, and Adam with an obscene amount of
2:31:57
picks from the Carbon Kitchen, as we say in Scandinavia.
2:32:01
Sorry, eh? Luke Manel. Luke Minnell, Los Angeles, 52-72. Brad
2:32:06
Bollman in Duluth, Minnesota, 52-18. And here's the 50s. We
2:32:10
Never Do Under 50 for Reasons of Anonymity, Tim Del
2:32:13
Vecchio, Blandon, Pennsylvania, Gary Mao in Woodland Hills, California, Sir
2:32:18
Alex Zavala from Kyle, Texas, Dane Patricia Worthington, Miami, Florida,
2:32:23
Brandon Savoie, Porch Orchard, Washington, Kevin Dills in Huntersville, North
2:32:27
Carolina, Kerry Jackson, Watertown, Tennessee, Jason Deluzio, Miami Beachwalk. Beach,
2:32:32
Florida. Aichi Kitagawa from San Francisco and Walker Phillips from
2:32:36
San Rafael, California rounds us out for the treasure portion
2:32:40
of the value for value, time, talent, and treasure. We
2:32:44
thank you all so very much for supporting the show.
2:32:48
Thank you. It means a lot, and you don't want
2:32:51
to be a douchebag for another one of us to
2:32:54
drop dead. Because so many people felt so bad about
2:32:57
not donating before John passed. It was unbelievable. Everybody always
2:33:01
thinks there's more time. Yeah, there never is. Hey, do
2:33:04
we do a troll count? Um, I didn't, actually. Let
2:33:10
me take a look. Do you have the troll count?
2:33:13
Oh, there we go. Let me take a look. Let
2:33:17
me see what the max was. We had 845 trolls.
2:33:23
peak trollage. JCD would not be happy with that number.
2:33:27
No, he would not be. But, you know, I have
2:33:31
a feeling this will just take some time. People will
2:33:34
get used to it. We still make an outstanding product.
2:33:39
And my favorite complaint now is Larry and Darren's voice
2:33:44
sound to radio. Oh, there's a lot of that. I
2:33:47
got one, this one lady. She's like, they're no good.
2:33:55
First of all, they're no good. She's not wrong. And...
2:33:59
and of course I should do the show with Mimi
2:34:01
it always starts with that and I don't know about
2:34:05
that Larry guy he seems very dark I don't think
2:34:08
he's good you should probably stay away from him she's
2:34:12
right on all counts very dark there's something very dark
2:34:16
about that Larry guy yeah I enjoy you guys I
2:34:19
enjoy listening to you I mean I I may not
2:34:21
be on the show the whole time, but I enjoy
2:34:23
listening to you. Well, that is appreciated. We're glad to
2:34:26
know that. It's cathartic for me. It really is. There
2:34:29
was one makeup jingle as well from Night of Sandy
2:34:32
Ridge. I guess it was from 1889. Yeah. I've got
2:34:37
Pabst Blue Ribbon on my mind. I've got Pabst Blue
2:34:41
Ribbon on my mind. Wow. Now there's a callback. It's
2:34:45
become quite the thing. People are sending you hats now
2:34:48
in case you hadn't received it. Oh, man, that was
2:34:50
a great... And John got irked by it at the
2:34:52
end. He was mad. Really? Stop it with the Pat's
2:34:55
Blue Ribbon. Well, then stop opening your soda can on
2:34:58
the air. Right. I mean, you can do it away
2:35:02
from the microphone. It was a good bit, though. Theater
2:35:05
of the mind. It was a good bit. You know,
2:35:08
I just want to... Just a little callback. Yeah. I
2:35:11
really love what, who did the opening, the opener? Jess.
2:35:18
No, no, not Jess. Jess Baker. Jess Baker. Jess Baker.
2:35:23
Jess Baker. I was getting around to it. Jess Booger.
2:35:28
Jess Baker. Excellent, but it's not really a jingle. You
2:35:32
need the opening music in there. People should be sending
2:35:35
it. Did you get the stuff from Sir Brian with
2:35:37
an I? No. I forwarded it to you. I thought
2:35:41
I sent it to you. No, this should be a
2:35:44
contest. Create the opening. Oh, there were two that were
2:35:48
very AI-ish. Maybe that was the only sentence. Yeah, that
2:35:51
was the problem. They were very AI-ish. I mean, and
2:35:54
just Baker does that. He knows what he's doing with
2:35:56
AI. That guy knows what he's doing. Yeah, that was
2:36:00
good. I like the sound of it. We just needed
2:36:03
a little more extended so we can do a proper
2:36:07
intro. But if other people, like I said, we're not...
2:36:10
to this quite as of yet, so throw your hat
2:36:12
in. You can have that to your IMDb page. Created
2:36:17
the theme for... The No Agenda Show. Hmm. So, noagendadonations.com,
2:36:27
that's where you can support the show. I don't have
2:36:29
the meetups. I do have the birthdays. I'll do the
2:36:34
birthdays real quick. It's just Yeah, we have Sir Skibbity
2:36:43
and Michelle wishing their son Jens Mathry, I believe, a
2:36:46
very happy birthday, celebrated his 20th yesterday. And Donna Walters
2:36:51
wishes her son Ryan a happy birthday. He turned 40
2:36:54
on the 11th. Happy birthday from everybody here at the
2:36:57
best podcast in the universe. It's your birthday, yeah Right.
2:37:02
Who's going to do meetups? Well, we have two meetup
2:37:04
reports. The first one, of course. Wait, you don't have
2:37:07
the jingle? You don't have the meetup jingle? Oh, right
2:37:09
here. There we go. Agenda. Meetups. Meetups. Stay on the
2:37:22
ball. Come on, Darren. Stay on the ball. It is
2:37:24
like a party. Indeed. It is like a party. I
2:37:27
got to get a touch screen, which would make it
2:37:29
easier, too, than having the mouse go over it. You
2:37:32
need a second eye. That would help. Yes, that would
2:37:36
also help very much. They keep telling me they're close
2:37:39
with being, you know, the stem cells or something else
2:37:42
being able to... regrow retinal tissue, which is what I
2:37:46
need. Do you mind if I ask about this? Can
2:37:47
I ask you a few questions? Sure. Did you have
2:37:50
eyesight in both eyes previously to degenerate over time, or
2:37:54
were you born with this? No, it was a retinal
2:37:57
detachment that happened about 10 years ago, and the first
2:38:03
surgeon could not... get it to stay up so it
2:38:07
went through multiple surgeries and by the time I got
2:38:10
the surgeon that was able to have the retina stay
2:38:15
up it is so scarred there's really no vision just
2:38:18
yeah it sucks especially considering I was sitting in the
2:38:22
first guy's office And he was like, well, we don't
2:38:25
have your referral yet because it was still just a
2:38:27
terror at that point, but without being a full detachment,
2:38:30
which probably could have been fixed with laser. But he's
2:38:34
like, well, no, we need the we need the referral.
2:38:37
So come back tomorrow. But didn't really have until tomorrow.
2:38:41
Oh, so you've been living off the money of a
2:38:43
lawsuit? You should call Rob the constitutional lawyer. I think
2:38:46
you can get some money out of this deal. Maybe.
2:38:49
This is no good. Maybe. It sounds like you're a
2:38:51
victim of incompetence, Darren. Yes, I agree. I think there's
2:38:54
a lawsuit here. Kind of, because when they went to
2:38:57
do the surgery, the surgeon that I finally got that
2:39:00
I trust, He had to request a special tool, you
2:39:06
know, basically they're sticking these things in your eye to
2:39:09
get to the back of the retina. He's like, because
2:39:12
your eye is so big, he needed a special large
2:39:14
tool. I'm like, well, I never heard this from the
2:39:17
other guy. Could he keep his large tool up? Maybe
2:39:19
the other guy couldn't. Right. That's exactly what it is.
2:39:23
That way you keep the eyes, you know, functioning. It's
2:39:26
a much preferred way to go. Yeah. So I just
2:39:29
close one eye a lot. Okay. But is it all
2:39:32
gunky and weird looking? Yeah. It's getting there because there
2:39:38
was oil in there, which is what kept the retina
2:39:44
up. And since there was no vision, he's like, well,
2:39:46
we could take the oil out, but that's another surgery.
2:39:48
It's not going to hurt you. And after a certain
2:39:51
amount of years, it started scarring the cornea. Wait a
2:39:55
minute. Tell me you wear an eye patch. No, I
2:39:58
really should.
2:40:00
Eyepatch is cool, man. You're 6'5", eyepatch, you know, you'll
2:40:03
scare little children. I'm just saying, if it were me,
2:40:06
I'd be wearing an eyepatch. You know, I have a
2:40:08
friend, and she lost her eye many years ago. And
2:40:14
she just pops it out. In fact, she went back
2:40:19
to her... her um college reunion and they were doing
2:40:23
like you know running around you know the old sorority
2:40:27
sisters like running around with uh beer across an obstacle
2:40:31
course or something and she tripped and fell and her
2:40:35
eye popped out i mean awesome just awesome nobody's gonna
2:40:39
forget that no no eyepatch eyepatch is what i'm saying
2:40:43
and talk like a pirate right yeah i wear the
2:40:46
eyepatch i'll everybody will know if we when they do
2:40:50
a meetup who would who the guy with the eyepatch
2:40:52
yes yeah Nice. But really, I remember the greatest thing
2:40:57
about that whole thing was sending in the no agenda
2:40:59
note afterwards and Dvorak reading it. And you could tell
2:41:03
he was uncomfortable with the whole sticking needles in the
2:41:07
eye and. And I was face down for like 12
2:41:10
weeks. Oh, that's right. I remember that. Yeah. Oh, man.
2:41:14
Yeah. And that was the worst part. I mean, because
2:41:16
if they would have just said, no, your eyes screwed
2:41:18
up. I mean, I could have saved 12 weeks. If
2:41:20
still don't have vision, you may as well just have
2:41:22
let it go. It was like 12 weeks of being
2:41:25
face down for really no payoff at the end, which.
2:41:28
Wow. Wow. which kind of sucked yeah so donate to
2:41:31
the one-eyed podcast jcd would be like don't let this
2:41:34
opportunity go hello you you can call it the patch
2:41:38
cast right there you go yeah i like that how
2:41:42
about there were a few more meetups here including the
2:41:45
fort lauderdale 8 8 2026 jcd tribute This, of course,
2:41:50
Andrew Horowitz, and you can play this. I haven't heard
2:41:54
this yet. In the morning, everybody, this is Scott Alt
2:41:57
from the Winning the Week podcast. And I just want
2:42:00
to say we're having a good time over here at
2:42:02
the Fort Lauderdale meetup. In memory of John, there will
2:42:05
never be another one. And I wish you guys were
2:42:07
here with us, but you're not. So we're going to
2:42:09
have fun without you. in the morning a hundred dollar
2:42:12
Eric just want to thank you guys for setting us
2:42:14
up we really appreciate and we're with you guys on
2:42:16
everything you're going to go forward with thank you for
2:42:19
all the history In the morning, my name is Juliana,
2:42:24
I'm here to celebrate John and everything he's given me.
2:42:27
I consider John my friend and Adam and also Andrew.
2:42:31
Everybody, thank you for inviting me to your lives. Thank
2:42:38
you. Hi, I'm Hans Mathry, Sir Skibbity. Sir Skibbity! And
2:42:44
I've listened to both the shows for ages. And I
2:42:48
really miss John, and I hope everybody's doing well. Thanks
2:42:52
for all the podcasts. I'm Clay Basweiss, I'm from Miami,
2:42:59
Sir Basweiss, and I started listening to John in 2008
2:43:02
and I listened to Agenda back then and it was
2:43:05
terrible. Well, wait, wait, wait, wait. That's not the way
2:43:09
to do a meetup report. No, it's great. It's great.
2:43:12
Roll it. Roll it. Didn't listen again until 2012. Then
2:43:15
it is a lot better. So I do miss John.
2:43:18
The last 18 years giving me advice via podcast. So
2:43:21
John, we miss a lot. And all the respect and
2:43:23
love to his family for everything. For giving us so
2:43:25
much of John's time. I always miss you too, Adam.
2:43:29
All right. Thank you. Yeah, my name is Ken. I
2:43:31
discovered the No Agenda show through Joe Rogan, actually, right
2:43:35
after or right during the pandemic. And John was somebody
2:43:39
that I just enjoyed his voice hearing it. And he
2:43:44
was always, to me, a voice of reason. I also
2:43:47
had a lot of affection for him because he's from
2:43:50
California and I'm from California originally and you know I'm
2:43:55
gonna miss him a lot and I hope he took
2:44:00
that last Amtrak Zephyr train to the next world so
2:44:06
God bless him and may he rest in peace. Alright,
2:44:09
you got it. Paul Barron, I've been listening to Andrew
2:44:14
and John for, gosh, many years. Actually, John and I
2:44:19
go way back even pre and actually when I found
2:44:21
that John was doing a podcast with Andrew, I didn't
2:44:25
know Andrew, but I knew John from the old days
2:44:28
of Silicon Valley. And, of course, a lot of his
2:44:31
work with PC Magazine and had followed him around. And,
2:44:34
of course, found Andrew and then realized he lived in
2:44:37
my hometown. That was how we all kind of got
2:44:39
together. So that's kind of been my... My history, I
2:44:44
guess it's probably been about 10 years. I know the
2:44:47
DH Unplugged podcast is one of the oldest ones out
2:44:50
there, so it's been a while since they got going.
2:44:53
Gosh, I think even the first time I had listened
2:44:56
to John, it was when he was with Leo Laporte
2:44:59
over on Twit. And that was probably 15 years ago,
2:45:02
so it's been quite a while. Listening to him on
2:45:05
DH Unplugged. I'm Chris Marble. I've been listening to No
2:45:10
Agenda since 2020 and to DH Unplugged for about five
2:45:14
and a half years. What do you miss about Joe?
2:45:18
I mean, everything. I feel like he's my grumpy spirit
2:45:21
animal and... his alternate way of looking at everything on
2:45:25
planet Earth is going to be missed a lot, for
2:45:27
sure. Hi, my name is Leslie Wilbur. I've been listening
2:45:32
to No Agenda since about 2021, and I'm from Lotsahatchee,
2:45:37
Florida, and I'm so excited that we're meeting here. And
2:45:42
John, I'm going to miss you so much. i think
2:45:44
what i'm gonna miss most is you saying bullcrap hey
2:45:48
it's uh andrew and jill and jill and we're here
2:45:52
at the nadhu meetup for jcd a lot of acronyms
2:45:55
and symbolized terms right there but it's wonderful to have
2:46:00
everybody here it's wonderful for this great day to honor
2:46:02
such a great man and um all that he has
2:46:05
meant to us and uh mimi the gang jay and
2:46:10
jc and everybody i want to say hello and let
2:46:13
you know that we're thinking about you a lot of
2:46:14
people right here thinking about you as well so we
2:46:16
send all of our deepest condolences and send a lot
2:46:20
of love and healing prayers to the family oh sweet
2:46:26
Jill Andrew's wife yeah And JCD will always be around
2:46:31
in audio clips. Do you find that weird that, you
2:46:33
know, your voice is going to go on because of
2:46:35
doing as much content as you have over the years?
2:46:40
No, I love that. I love that. That's longevity. You
2:46:44
know, they used to say people who write will live
2:46:46
on forever. Right. Right. There's going to be our voices
2:46:49
on CD-ROMs for generations to come, USB sticks, all kinds
2:46:58
of stuff. I think it's great. I hope someone finds
2:47:00
it. There's so many copies, which is always our idea.
2:47:03
Copy it. Put it anywhere you want. Make sure it's
2:47:07
out there. you might learn something you might might not
2:47:10
yeah i've always been into the old time radio stuff
2:47:14
so it's like this is the same thing in a
2:47:15
hundred years people might find this and say, wow, you
2:47:19
guys were screwed up. Yeah, exactly. We also have a
2:47:23
second brief meetup report, this one from Springfield, Missouri. Hey,
2:47:29
this is Brinkamania here from the meetup in Springfield, Missouri
2:47:35
at Beers Bar & Grill Here to remember John C.
2:47:41
Dvorak and what about that trade we got we got
2:47:50
the ants it's just our adult saber springfield missouri meetup
2:47:54
rest in peace john you'll be missed this is cory
2:47:57
in springfield in the morning from the real hill country
2:48:01
yeah the real hill country give me a break uh-huh
2:48:06
Maybe JCD did take the Zephyr over to Chicago, and
2:48:09
that explains all the rain stick action around here. There
2:48:12
you go. We've had a little bit too much. That's
2:48:15
it. We hope everybody that's having these meetups can send
2:48:17
in a meetup report. Please. We do have a list
2:48:21
of upcoming meetups as well. We have tomorrow the Pickleball
2:48:26
Meetup at 6 p.m. Eastern at Rockaway Beach Pickleball Court
2:48:30
in Queens, New York. Also tomorrow, a drink in the
2:48:35
honor of JCD, 7 p.m. Central at the Draft and
2:48:40
Vessel in Watosa, Wisconsin. Tomorrow, the titillating Tbilisi tribute to
2:48:48
JCD at the Buffalo Bill in Tbilisi, Georgia. And tomorrow
2:48:55
we have the JCD has left the building flight of
2:48:58
the no agenda number 79. At 3.33 p.m. Pacific at
2:49:03
the Tap Room and Restaurant in Riverside, California. Also Saturday,
2:49:08
the Northern Silicon Valley in memory of JCD at 3.33
2:49:12
p.m. Pacific. Dvorak Family in attendance, it says, at the
2:49:17
Pizzeria Violetta in Prescott Market in Oakland, California. California yeah
2:49:24
I think Mimi and the gang are going to be
2:49:26
there nice well there should be a good meetup report
2:49:30
from that one yeah for sure bring your cash in
2:49:33
envelopes people it's a widow then on Sunday the next
2:49:37
show day the RIPJCD at 2pm central at the Doghouse
2:49:41
Lounge in Dubuque, Iowa And also on Sunday, the Red
2:49:45
33, Red 33 Chauncey Memorial. Thank you for your courage
2:49:50
at 2.30 Boston time at the Castle Island Brewery in
2:49:54
Norwood, Massachusetts. And the TMI Evacuation Zone Toasted Chauncey.
2:50:00
meetup at 3 30 eastern at evergrain brewing in camp
2:50:04
hill pennsylvania and also on sunday drinking to buzzkill a
2:50:09
lot of drinks at 4 30 p.m pacific at the
2:50:13
alibi room in vancouver british columbia canada and then beyond
2:50:19
that we have uh A whole list from August 20th,
2:50:23
Charlotte, North Carolina, the 21st, Richmond, Virginia, the 22nd, Fort
2:50:26
Wayne, Indiana, Chattanooga, Tennessee, Reno, Nevada, and the 23rd, Indianapolis,
2:50:32
Indiana, Benton, Arkansas. And beyond that, pretty much a nice
2:50:36
list still from Canada, New Mexico, Rhode Island, Switzerland, Pennsylvania,
2:50:40
Nebraska, New Jersey, Idaho, Arizona, North Carolina, the UK, Idaho,
2:50:47
Texas, the Fredericksburg, October 17th. And then Los Altos, California,
2:50:54
October 24th and Tilburg of the Netherlands, October 24th. And
2:50:59
if you want to have your own meetup, it's easy.
2:51:02
Just create it and go over to noagendameetups.com. Well, that
2:51:10
sounds weird. Wow. Okay, your Mac is crapping out. Your
2:51:15
Mac is just done, but that is the first. The
2:51:17
curse of the Mac. Here, I got you. I'm going
2:51:20
to refresh that page much better. Sometimes you want to
2:51:24
go hang out with all the nights and days. Sometimes
2:51:28
you want to go hang out with all the nights
2:51:29
and days. You want to be where you won't be,
2:51:32
triggered or held or lame You want to be where
2:51:36
everybody feels the same Party. That's weird. Macs never have
2:51:46
audio problems. Until now. That's why I got off a
2:51:50
Mac, man, for that very reason. No problem until it
2:51:53
is. I got a couple of ISOs here sent in
2:51:56
by the clip machine. Keep the vaccines away from me,
2:52:01
dude. Oh, that's fitting for today's show That it is
2:52:06
By the way, you know that study about the miscarriages?
2:52:10
Yes So we figured that out, that it was really
2:52:15
high And this was early on, I think, when the
2:52:19
study came out And I remember talking about it and
2:52:23
I got so much flack. You don't know what you're
2:52:25
talking about. It's bullcrap. That's not true. It's not blah,
2:52:28
blah, blah. And I had the exact same calculations. And
2:52:31
I'm like, wait a minute. Look at who is miscarrying
2:52:34
and at what term. And then it was probably a
2:52:37
year later when people started to say, oh, yeah, I
2:52:40
guess you were right. It was a was a show
2:52:42
deconstruction back in the covid years. And it was right.
2:52:46
Johnson is getting no attention for doing nothing will happen
2:52:49
about you. No, no, no. And you also understood lying
2:52:53
with statistics. And that's exactly what we if we make
2:52:56
it all trimesters, it seems like a much lower number,
2:53:00
even though we know they're all in. The same third
2:53:02
trimester. Unbelievable. Organoids are alive. Going to the well. Beautiful.
2:53:15
And then, let's see. I mean, I thought I had
2:53:17
clipped just the here, the... I've got Pat's blue ring
2:53:23
on. So one of those. Uh... larry go ahead you
2:53:31
choose um choose what adam the iso oh the iso
2:53:38
i don't i'm not seeing a list of isos or
2:53:41
anything we just played them You mean the one I
2:53:45
like the best out of those? Yes, at the end
2:53:47
of the show. I thought there was more to come.
2:53:49
I think the gummy just hit. Larry's gummy just kicked
2:53:52
in, everybody, so. It's like the famous. The Pabst Blue
2:53:55
Ribbon, of course. Okay. Yeah, I agree. It's a good
2:53:59
one. In honor of JCD, of course, with real, it
2:54:02
was probably with real JCD can opening. Probably. It's not
2:54:07
that liquid death stuff you drink. No. So we've got
2:54:10
that. Oh, I guess. Let's see if the audio still
2:54:13
works now. Duh. It's working now. Who knows what anger
2:54:19
lurks in the heart of an Apple machine? Yes. That
2:54:23
is going to do it for another edition of the
2:54:25
Best Damn Podcast in the Universe. Coming up next on
2:54:29
the No Agenda stream, we've got Nick the Rat. Did
2:54:34
anybody ever hire that guy? He needs a job. No
2:54:38
end of show mixes, though, like the... start of the
2:54:43
show we can use some end of show mixes as
2:54:45
well and come up back on the sunday maybe we'll
2:54:50
have the one and only clip machine on the show
2:54:53
with us and we'll see how he sounds Yeah, tune
2:54:57
in for Steve, the clip collector. He knows how to
2:55:01
bring the clips. He does. Coming to you from outside
2:55:07
of Chirac right here in FEMA Region No. 5 in
2:55:10
the morning, everybody. I'm Darren O'Neill. And from the pretentious
2:55:14
Connecticut shore, I'm Larry Blindner. And coming to you from
2:55:18
the heart of the Texas Hill Country in Fredericksburg, Texas.
2:55:22
In the morning, everybody, remember us at noagendedonations.com. I'm Adam
2:55:26
Curry. Until next time, adios, mofos, hooey, hooey, and such.
2:55:41
We'll be right back. Mofo. Dvorak.org slash N-A. Ding. I've
2:55:52
got Pabst Blue Ribbon on my mind.
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