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Dude, that was amazing. You should do every pitch drunk.
Adam Curry. It's Sunday, September 13th, 2026. This is your
award-winning Kimo Nation Media Assassination episode 1903. This is No
Agenda. Coming to you from the heart of the Texas
Hill Country, we have a special edition of the No
Agenda show lined up for you in one of the
many... Curry and Friends episode, we have the one and
only, I can't believe he's here, Dana Brunetti, who will
be joining us for the show. Thank you. And as
you know, we like to start every single guest co-host
show off with a song. Thank you very much, Just
Baker. He'll be here in just two minutes. Sunday Signal,
Adam Curry, Brodanna Brunetti. Came through camera ready, calm, cool,
and steady. No confetti needed, conversation stays heavy. Hollywood receipts
in the trunk like a black Chevy. Say the name
Dane, somebody frame. The game from the guy who helped
shape a lane where the suits and the storytellers trade
favors. Now he's breaking down the feed with curry. No
chase. Then a brunette. Move smooth like Andretti. Cut through
media spaghetti. Leave the talking heads petty. Social network heat.
House of cards when the neck got ready. Binge the
whole deck. Appointment TV. Got sweaty. So raise up the
game. Let the Sunday feed train. Adam on the board
with the brand new code. Play it from the credits
to the clips, let the narrative get messy It's the
No Agenda Show with Curry and Brunetti Come on, man.
When we bring a guest on, we show our love,
don't we? that was great no it wasn't all that
great but it was okay i mean it's ai what
can i you know it's not like guns and roses
drop by to do a song for you but hey
dana how you doing man um i'm just here at
the ranch uh doing the podcast with you i i
have uh uh honestly i have butterflies in my stomach
This is strange coming from a man who has been
at the cusp of all kinds of premieres and excitement.
Will something work? Will it not work? But it's good.
I think it's a healthy butterflies. Yeah, it's been years
since I've been in that arena, though. So this is
my first time actually doing anything publicly like a podcast
or interview or anything like that. Yeah. And thank you
very much. Appreciate it. By the way, in the morning
to you. I haven't really said in the morning in
the morning. so I think it would be good if
you just because you are you know people going all
hollywood's on no this is and i think anti-hollywood i
think i can i try to get into the uh...
troll room but it it says i need that i
was up to know you're in no i think you're
in no i am i i had to write something
and i was going to go why but why would
you even want to be in the troll room i
mean this is this is healthy is not healthy to
do the show and be in the in the troll
room it's Hey, that is one thing I have learned
trying to get ready for this show. I have a
whole new respect for what you and John do and
did on the show. Oh, wait. Oh, wait. Oh, wait.
Are you thinking you should have donated more? Is that
what you're thinking? Because now you see how much work.
No. Now you see how much work it is. I
don't. Donated so much behind the scenes on all those
dinners with John. Yeah, exactly. What did I get out
of it? Nothing. Well, you live in the wrong state
for a different state. I mean, not the wrong state,
but a different state. So too far away to come
to those dinners. So could you just I mean, we've
talked about you a lot on the show. We love
the fact that you're a producer of the show. How
did you even find no agenda? Let's just start there
and work backwards. Okay. So I think it actually was
one of my first notes that I sent in. That
I kind of said it, but I moved I left
Hollywood or L.A. in 2019, but it was a process
that I started around 2018 when I started to see
not only L.A. start to change, but really Hollywood change.
And I'm like, okay, I'm kind of at the top
of my game, and what better time to go out
than at the top? And so I started to plan
my exit, and knowing, as I said, that things were
changing, not having any idea how – much and how
badly they were going to change both in LA and
in the industry itself. And I started looking at places
to move to. And I was looking in Florida, Texas,
New Mexico, Arizona. And my business manager said, hey, you're
still going to get hit by taxes from California no
matter where you go. And a broker I was using
at the time said, have you ever considered Northern California?
Because the taxes are only 13%. Basically, I wasn't escaping
the taxes was the point no matter what state I
went to because it's your tax and where it originates.
So the profit participation and things, the checks that I
get still would originate from here. So anyways, I moved
to an area that is not as… Luna is not
as full of lunatics and crazies, and it's actually a
very conservative area, one of the more conservative areas of
California. There's actually a lot of conservative areas in California
and that aren't as crazy as like L.A. or the
Bay Area. And so anyways, I was here. I found
this property. It was 40 acres of land. With a
mule. 40 acres and a mule. And it had two
wells and a power pole, and that was it. There
was nothing ever built here. There was an old crappy
barn. That was falling down. You couldn't even walk through
the property and it was supposed to be a two
year project. And so I was starting to do that
on the weekends. I had somebody working here. And then
when L.A. shut down permanently and I guess it was
March for covid. I bought an Airstream and moved on
to the land and I never left. And as I
was here clearing the land, literally riding around the tractor
with headphones, looking, listening to audio books and looking for
new things to listen to. I remembered John doing Cranky
Geeks. I was like, I wonder whatever happened with that.
Yeah. So I started searching on John Dvorak, and it
came up with No Agenda, and I saw your name,
and I was like, Adam Curry? What is John and
Adam Curry doing together? What's up with that? That's odd.
And so I'm like, let me give it a listen.
Okay. I thought it was going to be some liberal,
you know, leading show. And I'm like, oh, my God,
this is so refreshing. This is amazing. Oh, you caught
us right at COVID time. That's what happened. Oh, yeah,
of course. Yeah. Yeah, and so I started listening then,
and you misgendered me the first time I sent in
a note. Showed you how Hollywood I am. I'm like,
Dana, what is she doing talking to the show? Yeah,
okay, sorry. And then the rest is history. John reached
out to me shortly after that. And we became really
good friends and surprisingly so. As my wife said, she
didn't understand why the two of us got along and
we would talk so much and why we always would
have dinner together and became really good friends and talked
a lot. I typically would. take a gummy in the
evening and either call John or he would call me.
And sometimes I had no idea what I had even
said to him. I guess it was enough to keep
the banter going. I'll tell you, for 15 years, I
was high doing the show with John. So I know
exactly what you're talking about. That was the best way
to do it, to talk with John. Absolutely. He loved
it. So that. So this is really phenomenal because you
left your Hollywood career, I'd say, at the top of
your game. I'm going to give you the Wikipedia list
of the filmography. And you can tell me if it's
wrong or not. Starting in 2002, Uncle Frank, Beyond the
Sea, the Sasquatch Gang. I don't know what that is.
It's actually a really – let me tell you real
quick and interrupt for a second. The Sasquatch Gang was
with the guys, the other creators of Napoleon Dynamite. And
so it's very much in that same vein. Yeah. It
was a small independent film we made for about $2
million. Oh, wow. Okay. Minnie's first time, which sounds like
a prelude to Fifty Shades of Grey. Well, sort of.
And that resulted in the very public battle I had
with Alec Baldwin on Twitter. Oh, wow. I forgot about
that. He claimed that he didn't know that Nikki Reed
was under the age of 16. in his memoirs and
so I called him out on Twitter because he basically
blamed it on the producers as though we had won
over on him. Wait a minute, did you just say,
I called him out on Twitter? Okay, all right. It
was called Twitter then. All right, we move on. 21,
which I don't know what 21 was. I don't know
what that's about. The MIT card counters. Oh, yeah. Columbus
Day. I think I've seen Columbus Day. It wasn't a
Val Kilmer movie. It wasn't great. hackers wanted now go
ahead well because what people don't know about you is
you're a nerd you're very similar to me where you
know just enough to be dangerous when it comes to
technology I think yeah very similar to you just without
the hair exactly go look at his photo everybody hackers
wanted
I can give you... That was released... I didn't want
that to be released, and it was released online. It
was about... It started off to be about hackers and
ended up focusing on Adrian Lamo. I don't know if
you remember him. I know him. But he was... There's
actually a weird – that film ultimately led to Bradley
Manning, at least in my theory, Bradley Manning being arrested.
Huh. You know, what was. Yes. You mean Chelsea Manning?
Yeah. Yeah, exactly. So when he was still in Iraq
or Afghanistan, wherever it was, he watched that documentary online
through one of the leaks and. And contacted Adrian and
Adrian because he felt like Adrian was a sympathetic soul.
All right. I remember this. You know, listen to him.
And obviously, Adrian then went and flipped him. And that
part prior to that was why I didn't want the
movie released, because Adrian was a very good social engineer
and manipulator. Right. And he's dead now, but he manipulated
two or three different directors I had on the on
the film trying to make it and was turning it
and swaying them to paint him in a certain light,
which that certain light is what made him. Bradley Manning
feel like that he could confide in him. So now
you produce these movies, right? So what does that mean?
Does that mean that you get the most money of
all? uh usually it means you get the least money
of all unless it hits a producer of a film
or a tv show is the one who usually is
the the first one who's like the champion of a
project that's trying to put it all together it's like
a project manager You know, a script is like a
blueprint and you're trying to get people attached to it
as far as like a director or talent trying to
get it financed either at a studio or independently. So
you're kind of running around. So this is where you
go to the studio and say, look, I have this
director attached to it. Yeah, I have Alec Baldwin attached
to it. That's that was you. Yeah. Okay, cool. And
you're basically a sales guy at that point until you
actually start. You're a sales guy with every aspect. You're
a sales guy trying to get the director to buy
into it. You're a sales guy trying to get the
actors or the... The writer to write the idea, if
it's like a book or just an idea, and then
a sales guy trying to get the studio or the
financier to buy it and pay for it. So tell
me how the social network came together. I'm going to
skip a few here, but the social network, of course,
that was a huge movie. Mm-hmm. So – That stemmed
from 21. Ben Mesrick wrote the book Bringing Down the
House, not the Queen Latifah movie, but the book called
Bringing Down the House that we then turned into the
movie 21. Um, and the movie was number one, the
first two weekends in a row. And I went to
Ben and I was like, what else do you have?
I'd sold all of his books and including a couple
of proposals of books that he was writing. Cause you
know, in Hollywood, you're only as hot as your last
project. And so I, I'm like, we're hot now. What
do you got? And he had told me about –
he goes, I had this guy who contacted me who's
– there's another founder of Facebook, and I'm not really
sure about it. And so I'm like, Facebook? I'm like,
we can't make a movie about Facebook. He's like, no,
wait. He's like, you have to hear the story once
he kind of got into it. And once he told
me, I'm like, oh, okay. That's good. And so we
took it to Sony because that's where we had done
21. So I basically gave them the first look at
not that I had a first look deal. And they
kind of went back and forth on it for about
a week. And then I was like, OK, well, we're
going to start going out to others with it. And
I was at Robert Luke Kettick's house on a Sunday
night, drunk because we were drinking because, you know, partying
of the celebration of being number one the second week
in a row. And I got a message from the
studio that they wanted to get on the phone with
me and Ben Mesrick. This is a Sunday night because
they wanted to. talked to us before we went out
hard to the rest of the town with the proposal.
So it was like a 20-page proposal for the accidental
billionaires is what it ultimately became. And we didn't have
an ending because we didn't know how it ended. We
hadn't gotten to Eduardo yet. And they... were asking us
about the project. Ben was going through his usual pitch
of the proposal, which I'd heard, you know, 50 times
by that point. And... And when I called Ben to
say, hey, the studio wants to get on, it was
like 11 o'clock his time. And he was like, what
is like it's like 11 o'clock. He's like, well, what
are we going to tell him? He's like, they had
the proposal. We've already talked to him. I'm like, I
don't know. Just go through the same pitch and let's
just let's talk to him. So on with 203 of
the executives at studio, Ben was going through this through
his pitch. And I told him at the start, oh,
by the way, I'm drunk. And it was like, oh,
great. And so we're going through the pitch, Venice. And
then he like stumbles and like loses his train of
thought. And I guess it was in my drunken ambition.
I just started blabbing. And to this day, I have
no idea what I said. No recollection of what you
said. No, of course not. Of course. No idea what
I said. It's always how the hits come together. I
hate that. Oh, man. And they said, okay, great. We'll
have a business affairs call this week, and we'll get
it papered. Hung up the phone, called Ben back. He
was like, dude, that was amazing. You should do every
pitch drunk. So I just want to say one of
my favorite scenes from that movie was James Taylor playing
at – MySpace, a MySpace party. Do you remember this
scene? I don't think that's – no. I have no
idea what you're talking about. Yes, I think it was
James Taylor. It was like, fuck Facebook. That was in
the social network. I'm getting old. I'm forgetting a lot.
I'm not sure. Okay. Dana is drunk right now, everybody.
So I'm just going to move. We got to get
to some news, too, because you did a lot of
clips and you really prepared and very excited to deconstruct
the media with you because you know a lot about
it. Just briefly, though, Captain Phillips was the Tom Hanks
movie, which was also a huge success. I think that
was – didn't it win an award? Didn't it win
an Academy Award, a Golden Globe? I never won an
Academy Award. I won a Golden Globe. Not for that.
I won that for Social Network. I've won quite a
few. I've been nominated for pretty much everything. I was
nominated for two Academy Awards. One was for Social Network
and one was for Captain Phillips. There was a funny
aspect with Captain Phillips where... uh, uh, barcode, the main
Somali, you know, the one that's on all the memes.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Sure. It was his first time acting.
Um, and he got nominated for an Oscar and Tom
Hanks. Wait, isn't he a Elon Omar's brother? No, I
don't think so. But we found all of these Somalis
in Minnesota. So this was whenever 2012 or whatever before
we knew about everything we know about now. I was
like, where are we going to get these? And they're
like, in Minnesota, there's a huge population of Somalis, the
largest Somali population in the country. So we did a
casting call there. And I guess I wasn't there. It
was a local casting director who did it. And I
guess there was the whole building was like surrounded with
people that had showed up to audition. And Barca, to
his credit, got the other guys that were there before
they went in and said, hey, let's like go in
together and audition. do this and that caught paul greengrass's
eye on the tape that the the four of them
were working together and then i'll give you a quick
um when they didn't know they got the gig none
of them were actors and we had them out at
shutters and um santa monica here at the oh yeah
i know i know shutters sure i've been there once
and Paul told them – they just thought they were
meeting with the director. It was more part of the
audition process, and we'd already made up our mind that
these were going to be the guys. And when Paul
told them, they ran out and ran across the beach
and jumped in the ocean. Okay. All right. Yeah. What
everybody wants to know is Tom Hanks. Is he really
creepy? Now, actually, Tom Hanks is one of the nicest
guys I ever worked with and was just a really
genuine good guy. Was? Was? Did he change? I mean,
what's up with the pictures of shoes? The shoes on
the weird pictures. What's going on with him? I don't
know. What pictures of shoes are you talking about? He
would do pictures of single baby shoes. And he had
all kinds of weird pictures on his Instagram. This was
all when... And they went to... Man, weren't you listening
to the show? And he and Rita went to Australia,
and then we all believed they were part of the
PSYOP for the vaccine. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, I actually
emailed with him when he got there, and I asked
him if I could get his life rights to make
the movie of him, and I wanted Samuel Jackson to
play him in the movie. Okay. Okay. So, all right.
So a nice guy. What happened? How did he get
such a weird rap?
I don't understand that. Well, there's – and rightfully so
in a lot of aspects. A lot of people hate
Hollywood and hate the people mainly for the politics but
also just their craziness. And so some people, I think,
get caught up into it, and I think it has
more to do with politics than anything. But yeah, there's
a lot of bad people in Hollywood. Um, uh, on
it from my personal opinion and I could be wrong.
I've been wrong about a lot of things. Um, you
know, I really think he's a good guy. By the
way, I stand corrected. It was funny people. Where James
Taylor said it was doing. I'm sorry. It should have
been. It should have been. That was the scene you
needed in the social network. I'm just saying. So you
were giving me a critique. But you thought you were
actually talking about a scene in my movie. Yes. I
have some notes for you. All right. Then, of course.
This is what bought the farm for you, 50 shades
of gray, 50 shades darker, 50 shades free, 50 shades
I'm rich. I mean, what an amazing run you had
with that. Just briefly, where did this idea even come
from? Yeah. From the book, I presume. Well, yeah, the
book was a huge success. And I was actually shooting
Captain Phillips, and one of my executives called me and
he said, hey, you know this book, Fifty Shades of
Grey? And I was like, yeah. And he's like, well,
the author lives in London. I was like, okay. He's
like, well, you're in London. I was like, well, okay.
Okay. He's like, well, there's not a producer on the
movie yet. And I said to him, what about me
and the movies I've made makes you think that I'm
the producer for this? Because you hang out with creepy
guys like Tom Hanks and Kevin Spacey. You're perfect for
it. I don't think this movie is made for them
or those movies are made for them. But so we
were shooting the interior of the lifeboat scenes and Captain
Phillips had an old tank factory outside of London. And
Mike DeLuca, who's now the head of Warner Brothers, was
producing it with me, a really good friend of mine.
And. I was in the car heading to set when
I was having this call and he and I shared
an office together and I walked into our office outside
the set there and said, hey, do you know this
book, Fifty Shades of Grey? And he was like, yeah.
And I'm like, what? Have you read it? He's like.
Of course I have. I'm a pervert. Boom! I was
like, do you think there's a movie in it? And
he's like, yeah, I think there's a great movie in
it. So I'm like, well, can you tell me what
it is? And he was like, well, why? And so
I explained to him that there was this meeting trying
to be set up between me and the author and...
uh here in london and i said do you want
to come to the meeting with me so he ultimately
came to me it turned out it wasn't with the
author was with uh her manager And she basically told
us that the producers had already been chosen. But do
we want to consider some of these other books some
of our other clients had written? Of course. Oh, we
got the old bait and switch. But by the end
of the meeting, it seemed like that there actually was
some possibility that we might be able to get our
hat in the ring. And then when we were in
Virginia Beach shooting the scenes with the SEALs, we got
the call that we were going to be the producers.
So we basically got selected. So it was a kind
of a different type of scenario. Where we weren't kind
of shopping it around, we were selling ourselves to come
on as the producers. So then just the final project
I want to ask you about, because I think you
put streaming on the map. Actually, two series put streaming
on the map when we were all binge watching like
nut jobs. One was... What was the... It's escaping me
now. The cooking meth... Breaking Bad. Breaking Bad, thank you.
Cooking meth, Breaking Bad. That was on AMC. That didn't
stream. Well, that's where we all binged it. Because I
never watched it. And then all of a sudden, it's
like, oh, look at this, man. I can watch a
thousand episodes one after another. But what really broke big
and I think put Netflix on the map is House
of Cards. Yes. Yes. So House of Cards, that came
about while I was shooting The Social Network, the scene
when Eduardo shows up in the rain and there's the
girls are smoking a bong and playing video games on
a couch in between setups at that house. It was
a house out in the valley. Me and David Fincher,
the director, were sitting on a couch, and he knew
I worked with Kevin, and he said, hey, would he
ever consider doing television? And what he didn't know, I'd
actually had been talking to Kevin about doing television, and
I said, yeah, why? Right. He's like, well, there's this
British series called House of Cards about the House of
Parliament. And we're working with this guy who was Bo
Williman to adapt it for the U.S. And so that's
how it originated. It took probably a year or two
or probably two years. I remember there was another project
that we had with Rod Laurie that we took out
that ended up not selling. That was a really good
project as well. And but before we took it out,
I told Fincher, hey, just so you know, there's this
other show. So it's kind of a horse race. And
his response is such Fincher. And it's very, very Fincher.
His response was, yeah, ours is better. And it's basically
like, yeah, go ahead and do that. But I know
ours is better. And it's going to be, you know,
this is going to be the one he's going to
want to do. And he was right. And it got
taken out to to the town. We had originally HBO
was interested. And we thought it was going to go
to HBO and Fincher kept pushing them to do like
six episodes rather than just a pilot. This was when
everybody did pilots. And so which was a very inefficient
method because you would you shoot the pilot and then
shoot. After production was done, everything get wrapped up, packed
and stored away. Everybody would leave. And then the studio
would or the networks would, you know, test it and
give notes and do whatever. And then you come back
if they picked it up from the pilot and start
over again. And Fincher just wanted to go and do
multiple episodes at a time. And HBO refused to do
it. And they used the TV show Luck at the
time as an example. Like we didn't even do this
for it was I can't remember some really big names
that were involved, Dustin Hoffman and a few others. And
ironically, that show got canceled shortly after because they were
killing horses. But so we're like, OK, well, we'll do
it the way they want to do it in the
way that it was still getting done. And there was
a like a throwaway meeting to Netflix. And that I
wasn't a part of or didn't go to, didn't even
know about. And the idea was, well, because Reed Hastings
had said on an earnings call a few months before
that they had no intention of doing original content. And
so I guess the idea was, well, We'll see what
happens if they make any kind of offer, then that
can be used to negotiate with others to try to
get a better deal. And they bought it in a
room and offered $100 million for two seasons. Holy moly.
And I didn't know about it. Kevin didn't know about
it. And it was on a Saturday. And Kevin had
a house in Malibu. And I went down to visit
him. And he went out to get coffee. And when
he came back, he's like, hey, Fincher just called. And
he wants to speak to both of us. So, OK,
this can't be good if we're getting a call from
the director on Saturday and we're going to announce on
Monday that we're doing this deal with another network. And
he told us about this idea with Netflix. And I'd
already known, obviously, as you said, I'm a big nerd
and new streaming was definitely the way things were going
and was a big proponent of it and been pushing
for it and wanted to be like one of the
first to do a movie that was released online. And
Kevin had known that. I'd talked about that a lot.
And so Fincher told us that, hey, Netflix has this.
And Kevin, to be clear, Kevin lived in London the
majority of the time. And so. So his idea of
what he wasn't really aware of, they were just starting
the streaming aspect. And it was like a website. You
could only do it on a computer. And they had
like, I think, like 90 titles on it. This was
before Quickster. Remember the whole Quickster debacle? Quickster? Yeah. Yeah,
that was a thing that Netflix tried to spin off
that completely failed, and Reed Hastings ended up doing a
public apology for it. I don't remember that. So it
was early, early days. I remember Quibi. Quibi. I remember
Quibi. Yeah, that was well after. That was a billion-dollar
disaster. Yeah, that was – what's his name? It was
Katzenberg. Yeah. Yeah. So anyways, I pick up the phone.
It was on a landline. and I sell service there
at the beach is horrible. And I'm on one phone
and Kevin's on another phone and Fincher tells us this.
And he's like, so we're, we're going to do the
show on DVD. And I was like, yeah, Kevin, we're,
I'm going to do it on DVD. Just say yes,
and I'll explain it to you after we hang up.
Ah, okay. Yeah, Netflix DVD. Yeah, I got it. Okay.
Yeah, so that's his whole idea of Netflix at the
time. And... I'm like, look, this is going to happen
one way or the other. It's either going to happen
in five or 10 years, or we can be the
ones to do it now. So everybody gives me credit
for starting streaming and all that. It would have happened
no matter what. And you're so humble, humble. I love
it. But yeah, it was what really put Netflix on
the map. So just as a final Hollywood question, then
I just want to get into the news with you.
What is it like partying with Harvey Weinstein? Harvey and
I, we had some public spats, and we didn't like
each other. I did a movie. called Fanboys, which was
about Star Wars fans that he pretty much butchered and
tried every Every week whatever the hit movie was of
comedy movies He tried to inject something different into it
and was just a whole mess And I publicly went
after him a couple times on Twitter on Twitter. Did
you call him out on Twitter on Twitter? on radio
interviews. You can, you can find them out there. And
I will say this too, with everything, with, I feel
like I was a complete idiot. Cause when everything started
coming out about Harvey, I had no idea. Yeah. And
I was like, I had no idea this guy was
doing. I had so many interactions and meetings and dealt
with him. And I didn't like the guy. We did
not get along. And so I somehow either... by my
dislike of him had blinders and I missed all of
this but I never heard anything never saw anything of
all and I mean I believe every bit of it
but I was I was like how could I have
missed all that I worked with a guy and it
was incredible but um yeah that's never really uh partied
with him okay I mean, he was at a lot
of parties. Here, I'll give you a quick Harvey story.
He cornered me once at the Academy luncheon every year.
Everybody's nominated for an Academy Award. They do a big
luncheon. And so it's every who's who of Hollywood is
there. And I was going back to the bathroom and
coming out. He was standing by this pillar and he
was on the phone. He was like, hey, Dana. He's
like, hey. I'm like, hey, Harvey, what's up? And he's
like, hey, I just wanted to say to you, he
goes, you got the best film this year. And it
was a social network. I was like, oh, really? And
this was he had King's Speech. Which beat us for
the Oscars. Right, right. Which was a good movie, too.
That was a good movie. It was a good movie.
I don't think it was the Oscar winner, though. Well,
what do you mean? You got a stuttering guy. You
know, that always wins. Either you're an idiot savant, a
stutterer. You know, that always wins. yeah well even harvey
said he said you got the best movie this year
and then he called himself he's like all right well
one of the two and i was like all right
thanks harvey i appreciate it so you you basically have
been uh a douche to hollywood you said you gave
a big middle finger to hollywood are they still calling
you do they still want you to do stuff Uh,
not the people that can actually, uh, uh, not the
people, not the people with power. Okay. Got it. Yeah.
So, uh, two days ago, I'm, uh, um, uh, uh,
I mean, you can tell, you know, the way I
think and it's not. Yeah, you're you're you're no agenda
producer. We know exactly how you think. Yeah, exactly. And
it's that wasn't accepted when I left. And when that
was nothing compared to how it is now. Right. I
believe that. So two years, two days ago, we had
our annual television extravaganza moment where we remember 9-11, which
is to me, it's always triggering to me because I
think of all the. All the things that really happened,
I think, you know, obviously, 3000 people died, you know,
all of this is bad. But out of that came
the Iraq war, the Patriot Act was signed, you know,
six weeks later, half the people never even read it,
you know, weird things were going on. I remember within
days. The thing was on CNN, there were these people
yelling on the street. And I think CNN was like,
well, there's some people here protesting. Let's go talk to
them. And they were saying 9-11 was an inside job.
And that was pretty early on in my media deconstruction
phase. just looking at all the odd things that took
place. But I learned from you when we had dinner
just before John's memorial that you were in New York
on nine 11, not far from the twin towers. Yeah.
Yeah, I was I was about two blocks away from
well, not about I was two blocks away from building
seven. My street ended at building seven. The one that
fell at five. The one that the one that fell
because it was so sad about building one and two.
Like, oh, I think I'm going to collapse now. Did
you see it implode? No, so I was in my
apartment. My apartment building was an 11-story building. I was
on the ninth floor. I have incredible footage from it.
I have footage of it before the fire even started.
But... I was at my daughter's mother's and my girlfriend
at the time was in the bathroom blow drying her
hair and the building shook and there was a huge
boom. And I was like, what what was that? And
all my windows, they faced towards the east and the
towers were two blocks south of me. So I couldn't
really see what was going on. But I saw a
girl that I knew, this model, who lived in a
building across from me. I saw her come out on
her deck and look towards the towers and just put
her hands on her head. And so I'm like, okay,
something happened. And I told Johanna, hey, I'm going to
go up on the roof so I can see what
happened. Okay. And this is the plane had just hit.
And as I was going out the door, there was
a video camera that was there next to the door
that I grabbed. And I started as I walked up
the stairs, the two flights to the 11th floor to
the roof. And I started the camera right as I
was going out because I'm like, I have no idea
what I'm going to see. And there was two building
workers, two of the maintenance guys were on the roof
and one other resident. And these guys were in shock.
They were up there when this plane just barreled over
them and crashed into the side of the building. Now,
you saw it. You saw a plane crash. An airplane?
No. No, I saw the hole that the first one
had left. Didn't it look to you like Wile E.
Coyote, the way the wings and everything were in the
side of the building? It was crazy. The fire had
– it was hard to comprehend. I remember – The
other tenant who was on the roof asking them because
they were like, it was a plane. It was a
big plane. And he was like, an A6 Galaxy or
whatever. I know they fly around here every hour. He
thought it was because it looked like a small plane
to me. It looked like a small plane. And I
remember there wasn't a cloud in the sky. And I'm
like, what went so wrong? that they how did they
hit right and i was using my camera the lens
had a really good lens on it to zoom into
the hole to try to you know see what i
could see or figure out what you know because the
fire hadn't started and then uh actually in the video
you hear the My neighbor said, oh, damn, there's a
fire starting. And so I filmed it for a bit.
I went back down into my apartment and I turned
on the news. It wasn't even on the news yet.
And then while I was down there calling a couple
of people. And I remember when I was on the
roof, too, going, wow, that's going to be really interesting
to watch them repair this because it's so high up
and it's right there. It's my view. You know, I
see it constantly. And while I was in the apartment,
a second plane hit. And that's when I knew we
were under attack. Once I saw that on the news
and it coming in, so I told my girlfriend, I
was like, let's get the dog. And get out of
here. And she was she was opening Issey Miyake's like
flagship store that day. It was during Fashion Week. And
she was like, what about the store? We have the
opening. I've been planning for weeks. I'm like, forget that.
We're getting out of here. So you left the city?
You got out of the city? Yeah. So we walked.
You and the Bin Ladens got out. That's amazing. It
was pretty weird because there were so many people going
that direction and we were going the other direction. Yeah.
And I remember when we went on the bridge, I
called my business manager who lives in upstate New York,
right outside the city. And I'm like, hey, can I
head up there? Yeah. He's like, you're going to be
fine. I'm like, no, no. I want to get out
of here. We're being attacked. And so I said that
on the first plane, and he was who I was
on with when the second plane hit. And then when
he realized the second plane hit, he was like, all
right, yeah, go ahead. Come on up. And they had
closed the bridges. We were like one of the last
to go over the bridge going out of the base.
the city and made it out before everything got shut
down. So, of course, yesterday or two days ago, the
memorial was politicized by the media and by our president,
in fact, as well. This morning, President Trump at the
ceremony of remembrance for the 184th.
or who died at the Pentagon when hijacked American Airlines
Flight 77 crashed there, put the current Iran war in
the context of fighting global terrorism and one of its
persistent state sponsors. The president, as if to prove that
life goes on, will travel this weekend to Ireland for
the Irish Gulf Open. That's where we find our Nancy
Cordes on this day of reflection and realization that in
the president's own words, Iran is now the third defined
war to be waged in one manner or another in
the shadow of 9-11. Nancy. Nancy. Major, good to be
with you. This is a duty that every president since
George W. Bush has carried out repeatedly on the anniversary
of 9-11, going to the various memorials to pay tribute
to the people who died. And today, President Trump spoke
at the Pentagon for just under 20 minutes. minutes. He,
by and large, stuck to the script. He said that
it's on days like 9-11 that we learn what a
country is truly made of. And he made the point
that you just mentioned, tying his war with Iran to
the larger war on terror that was waged after 9-11.
Take a listen. We salute the service members working right
now to ensure the world's number one sponsor of terror,
the Islamic Republic of Iran, will never ever have a
nuclear weapon. The ultimate victory over the... Perpetrators will not
be found on a foreign battlefield. It's right here in
the hearts of families. This was the second year in
a row that President Trump, a native New Yorker, chose
to commemorate this solemn day at the Pentagon and not
at Ground Zero with the other living presidents. I am
just flabbergasted why our president makes this comparison because it
is exactly. Because of the war on terror that we
got into Iraq and later into Afghanistan. And he's helping
people make that connection, which is probably one of the
biggest reasons why people are mad at him. It's it's
it's flabbergasting to me. Well, I think it's part of
his way of justifying the war because it's going on
longer than what he had hoped or planned. But I
also, you know, I don't disagree. Iran is a bad
place or bad regime. The country is not and the
people aren't. But the regime that's there definitely wants to
do harm to us and. Anyone associated with us? Do
you buy into the nuclear weapon thing? Because that was
the other part of, you know, Colin Powell's holding up
the little vial like, oh, you know, this is we
got the yellow cake and they got weapons of mass
destruction. I mean, I don't know if they had weapons
of mass destruction, but they certainly were working on it.
But how far along they were or weren't, you know,
I don't know. I found this very interesting. ABC aired
a speech by – One of the widows from the
victims in the North Tower. Her name is Terry Strada.
And she brought up something that has been a mark,
a dark mark on our government since 9/11 2001. And
they aired it. I thought that was interesting. 25 years
of pent-up anger pierced the solemn recitation of names of
9/11 victims. And my husband, Tom Strada, you are missed
more with each year that passes. Can it be 25
years and still we have no justice for the role
that Saudi Arabia played in your Just feet away from
the vice president and four former presidents, Terry Strada, whose
husband Tom was killed on the North Tower of the
World Trade Center, chastised the American government for failing to
act on claims the government of Saudi Arabia had some
connection to the 9-11 plotters. Administration after administration, including leaders
in front of us here today. chose to protect the
saudis instead of standing with the 9-11 families you know
it's like okay abc way to go i didn't expect
them to i guess i guess it was no way
around it but they even highlighted it did you uh
see the woman standing next to her no The woman
next to her was clearly uncomfortable. It reminded me of
Kanye West and Mike Myers. Oh, with the George Bush
hates black people? Yeah. Oh, wow. Oh, wow. Well... The
thing is, that is just one of the many things
that are so irritating about this. Actually, I'm going to
be talking about it with Pastor Jimmy on Wednesday on
We Get to Do This. Because, you know, this... There's
such an un-American response in a way. It seemed like
we were very doing the right thing. You know, within
three weeks, we were like, let's go get them towel
heads. You know, with the French, you know, they wouldn't
participate. And we had freedom fries. And the whole thing
was just... We were so manipulated during those days. But
the thing about the Saudi Arabia, and of course, President
Trump has made a lot of deals with Saudi Arabia.
There's... But of course, there was a different king at
the time, and who knows? It's not just Trump, though.
Pretty much every president has made different deals with Saudi
Arabia. But the Bush family had – they had like
family ties. There was like 30 years of friendship. So
I went into our – and no agenda archives and
i pulled out uh... couple clips about the infamous twenty
eight pages you know about this the twenty eight pages
twenty eight pages of a joint congressional inquiry into the
nine eleven attacks were classified by the george w_ bush
administration which claim they contain information would hurt the war
on terror But some lawmakers argue the pages reveal little
about national security and a great deal about the government
of Saudi Arabia's role in the attacks. They say that
the pages tell the story of Saudi officials meeting with
and even funding two of the 9-11 hijackers when they
first arrived in the U.S. But only a handful of
people have seen them, right? That's right. Right after 9-11,
a very unusual story. usual congressional inquiry with both the
House and the Senate Intelligence Committee Chairman convened to find
out what had happened. And they did quite a lot
of research. This is before the 9-11 Commission took effect.
And they published their report in 2003, and it was
heavily redacted, but there was one entire section, 28 pages,
that was taken out entirely. And the Bush administration justified
on national security grounds, but congressmen that I've spoken to
who have read those 28 pages say it has nothing
at all to do with national security, that the Bush
administration and the relationship with the Saudis is implicated, and
they also admit that it has something to do with
the two Saudi hijackers I've talked to the 9-11 commissioners
and Governor Tom Kaine, for instance, he's seen those 28
pages. he thinks they ought to be released. He thinks
not just those 28 pages. He says this is just
a small part of a much larger story. There is
lots of information that that joint inquiry and the 9-11
commission turned up that still has been kept from the
American people. For instance, their interviews with President Bush, with
Former President Clinton with Vice President Cheney. Those still haven't
been released. And I think after 13 years, the American
people can afford to know the truth. Yeah, and those
28 pages were released, I think, under one of the
first things in President Trump's first administration. It was like,
yeah, you know, OK, so the Saudis clearly were involved.
They were financed. They released it on a Friday afternoon.
You know, no one touched it. And it would be
so healing for the. I mean, you think COVID was
bad? I mean, that was COVID was bad. But 9-11,
man, that really hurt our country. Just so much stuff
that is just not explained properly. I agree. But do
you think it would 25 years later? I mean, I
feel like most people don't even think about it unless
you were around at the time. So, you know, people
that are 25 years old have no idea about it.
Yeah, yes, but you and I still think about it.
Maybe you don't think about it, but... No, of course.
Every year it comes back. I'm like, oh, man. They
just lied. It comes back, but look at everybody that's
protesting with their Palestinian flags and going out. They're a
lot younger. They weren't here for 9-11 or they were
10 years old or whatever. A 10-year-old on 9-11 is
35 years old now. I'll play just a little bit
of one more clip about this because it's Megyn Kelly
back when she did news. And it explains the thing
that is most egregious about these 28 pages. Bob Graham
is the former chairman of the Senate Select Committee on
Intelligence and the former co-chair of the bipartisan Joint Congressional
Inquiry into Intelligence Failures Surrounding the 9/11 Attacks. Great to
see you, sir. Thank you for being with us here
tonight. So you want these 28 pages released. them. What
are you at liberty to tell us about them? Not
much because I am still under a oath that I
took not to disclose classified information but it has been
said publicly that this chapter primarily relates to who financed
9
eleven and that it points a finger at saudi arabia
when you look at that statement that was in the
nine eleven report saying we found no evidence that the
saudi government as an institution or senior saudi officials individually
funded the organization you could drive a truck through that
sentence there are a lot of holes in their senior
saudi officials which doesn't rule out non senior saudi officials
or the government as something other than acting as an
institution And one of the things that makes this even
more confusing is that the concept of sovereign immunity, that
is, that the king can do no... I just love
that, where that was the statement. No senior Saudi officials
were involved at all or anything like that. And, you
know, to this day... There's a large contingent that is
still 100% convinced that Israel did it. So it is
something that just lives on, and I just wish that
– I mean, I know it's not going to happen,
but to me, it's not like Occam's razor. It's like
there was no – and as a pilot, I actually
early on joined pilots for 9-11 Truth. Whatever flew into
those buildings, it wasn't even well-trained commercial airline pilots. The
maneuvers they made, the flight data from the so-called plane
that crashed into the Pentagon. I mean, even the data
itself shows that wherever that data came from, it was
300 feet above the Pentagon, so it didn't go into
the Pentagon. I mean, it's all of this stuff. And
what was it? I mean, where's the plane debris? Where's
the luggage? Where's anything? Where's an engine? Well, are you
talking about the Pentagon or the World Trade Center? No,
the Pentagon. Well, the World Trade Center, that was obviously
true because we found the passport. I mean, you could
not have – if someone came to you with that
script, you would have laughed at them. You just asked
where the engine was, and I asked – the reason
I asked about the towers is because I was there.
There was an engine that came through. You can actually
see it on the video. Yeah, it's a very small
engine. It's a very small engine. It's not a small
engine. It landed on Murray Street a block away from
my apartment. It was a jet engine. Yeah, yeah. Yeah.
And that made it through. But if you've seen the
planes that crash in the water, they just disintegrate. And
they're tiny little pieces. So if you're crashing into a
structure, you're going to disintegrate into the structure as it
collapses on it. So I just want to – are
you saying that or do you think that – It
wasn't the planes that we thought that crashed into the
Pentagon and the Trade Center or that it was different
pilots or – I'm not so sure it was the
planes we were told they were. That's the main thing,
and they certainly weren't being flown by – they weren't
being flown by pilots. Yes. It's just when they did
the passport bit on the street, I was like, okay,
sure. We got him. We got our man. Here's his
passport. It fell on the street. Okay. Okay, but explain
that to me a little bit. They found their passports.
You think that that's bullcrap? Why? Because we found almost
nothing. Nothing. His passport, they miraculously made it out of
this horrific crash and then landed on the street in
New York. It's the same as when planes crash and
they find the teddy bear or the kid's little shoe.
Some things do survive. I'm just going to push back
on you. I have a piece of paper from –
a couple pieces of paper that are burnt all around
on the edges that were on my windowsill when I
was finally three months later allowed to get back into
my apartment. How did those make it from – the
World Trade Center all the way over to my windowsill.
But was it a passport of one of the hijackers?
No, it wasn't a passport. It was actually from one
of the pieces from Italian bank. And then there was
also a piece of glass from Building 7. Well, that
was all the financial stuff they had to get rid
of in Building 7. That's why they had to pull
that thing and crush everything because, you know, Rumsfeld had
just said, well, we can't find $2.3 trillion. Anyway, that's
personal healing I have to do. You did a lot
of work. You put together, I don't know, you must
have 30 clips. So I just want you to let
loose and tell me where you want to go, brother,
because it looks – and you – You really just
– you titled them kind of – you obfuscated what's
in them. So I'm ready wherever you want to go.
I was trying to make it so you didn't –
I thought the whole idea is that you didn't know
what it was. No, I didn't listen to them. Yeah,
of course. I got to tell you, I have a
newfound respect. Again, I said this earlier, but while I
was doing this, I felt like I needed to go
out and mow the lawn or do something because what
you are is you're like a filter, you're the condom
to have to dive in and do it. I just
found myself getting so frustrated and irritated doing it, having
to deal with it. It's like going into hell just
listening to these talking heads and you just start to
really see how they're really starting to spin things and
how they manipulate things, it was really eye-opening to me.
You build up this odd resistance, this is what I
found, is I can completely ingest all of this stuff
and then I'll say to Tina, I said, oh man,
I got some great stuff for the shows. She said,
whoa, what do you have? I said, I don't know.
Honestly, I don't remember because I park it. When I
see something, I document it. I get a clip. I
make the clips, and then I put it aside just
for the time for the show because you're right. Otherwise,
you get mad. I think that's the attraction of the
show is people want to share that frustration. Well, that's
what I realized is I had you guys to like
distill it all down for me. And as I said,
you're like the condom. You protect me from having to.
go into this what i you know to get these
clips and distill it down and bring all that to
me you guys are like my new source i already
see the art that scaramanga is going to make so
thanks thanks for that visual oh the condom yeah it's
all right so um I don't know. You want to
– Wherever you want to go. Let's get the most
obvious one out of the way. I have a bunch
here for – and I didn't know anything about this.
I didn't really care about it. My wife kept asking
me about it if I had been paying attention to
it, and I really wasn't. But it was the Lindsay
Clancy trial. Oh, we can't get away from it. Yay!
Yes. Let's start here. Let's start it up first with
Priest. Hold on a second. Priest, here we go. Let
me tell you, this Lindsay Clancy debacle – There is
no universe that exists where a man would kill three
of his children and be going to the courthouse and
hundreds of men would show up to rally behind him.
That world doesn't exist. But somehow there's women out there
that think this is a good thing. So now we
are promoting killing children outside the womb. Is this not
crazy? This is crazy. Yes, I understand she was on
all these drugs and all the other things. Seek help.
You're a grown woman. This is a catastrophe that, one,
that this thing happened at all, and we should pray
for her. I think she has demons, to be honest.
But these women that are behind her, insanity is reigning
in many places. Bye. If you're dating a woman right
now who is a supporter of this woman who killed
her children, cut bait and run for your life. Because
one day you'll be having kids with her and she
thinks this is okay. I'm serious. That's a big impediment
for me in a marriage. You know, every single pastor
that is on YouTube, I call them the YTPs, the
YouTube pastors, had to weigh in on this. And they
all had similar takes. I'm like, you know, first of
all, why? Why is this even such a big news
story? And why, why? Why get that conversation? Why fan
the flames within your own church, your own congregation? Because
it's dividing men and women in a very, very destructive
way. uh it's dividing some men and women but i
think most as that priest said that you know I
think anybody that agrees with this woman or sides with
her is a huge red flag. Probably, you know, the
one the only thing I could think of is and
I see the women talking about on television and I
wonder if they are not overmedicated, which I think a
lot of women are. A lot of women are overmedicated.
Well, yeah, particularly the groups that you saw that that
are rallying behind her. You can just look at them
and see when we saw the jurors. It's like, yep,
they look and sound exactly as I expected. But that
leads to the next clip, Gail. uh gail yeah i
got gail I'm curious about the jurors themselves, because we
know it was nine women, three men. What was the
age range? What was the racial makeup? I haven't heard
any of that. What was it? 70-ish to 22. And
one person of color, and then everybody else was white.
Right. a lot of the jurors had children. Wonderful.
Was a person of color a woman or a man?
A man. A man. Is a holdout juror a black
man? Yes. A black man is a holdout juror? Yes.
Well, I'll have to sit with that for just a
second. I'm glad you got this. Tina showed this to
me. I'm like, because it's the expression of Gayle King,
who's like... Their head implodes. A black man didn't agree
with every white woman in America? How can this be?
This makes no sense. And of course, if you know
black people... Black American men, they have their heads screwed
on, right? Most of them. I'm going to get to
that as well. I got some clips for that. Okay.
So it just completely destroyed their narrative. If it was
a white guy, like, oh, yeah, we can go and
we can rip him apart. Yeah. And then go to
non-practicing. Okay. Okay. The holdout juror in the Lindsey Clancy
trial was a black man, and I'm not going to
share any opinions because I'm not a person of color.
I am a non-practicing white. I'm surprised. What? I'm a
non-practicing white? Oh, this is new. I love this. Adam,
are you not a non-practicing white? Only when I did
the show with Mo, and that's when I was a
non-practicing white. Non-practicing white. Person of color. I am a
non-practicing white. What does that even mean? This is great.
I'm a non-practicing white. Oh, man. I'm going to start
using that, that I'm a non-practicing white. You know, I
remember the first time that I got called out for
white privilege. It was in Austin, probably around 2012. And
Tina and I were having dinner at, you don't remember
this because you weren't listening to the show, at the
artist's house, Lori Frick. And she invited over a professor
from UT. So it was like a dinner party. And
he's actually, I liked it because he wrote a book
about performatives. And it was fascinating. The guy's fascinating. And,
of course, everyone's drinking. And then also he says, well,
obviously that's, so it came out. I'd never heard this
before. Well, obviously, you have white privilege. Tina is from
Indiana, across the tracks from Gary, Indiana. Grew up with
five girls in a 900-square-foot house with one bathroom. Dad
worked at the steel mill. I mean, you know, it's
like, what? White privilege. But I wish I had had
this phrase back then. I'm a non-practicing white. Excuse. Excuse
me, Professor, I'm a non-practicing white. I'm surprised. It changes
the landscape of the conversation a little bit. And I
think a lot of us were assuming that it was
a white man. I think this is just we're we're
I haven't I haven't really thought about this much, but
I think that we are now seeing the effects of
overmedicated people in our country. There's no other way to
justify this. Yeah, if you could see this girl on
TikTok too, she's definitely on medication. But now at least
I have a new term that she gave us. Yes.
If anybody accuses me, I'm just going to claim I'm
a non-practicing white. Yes, I love it. So now they
have – it's a black guy that is completely destroying
their narrative. But then there was another – I don't
know if this is true or not, but the guy
breaks it down pretty good. Go to Crazy Eyes. Crazy
Eyes. Oh, I don't have Crazy Eyes. It would be
under C. Hold on. Uh... I don't have crazy eyes.
How do you not have crazy eyes? It's such an
old folder. Let me see. Crazy. No. No, I have.
It's crazy underscore eyes. No. I have all your clips
here. And oh, I see under how odd under 35.
Sorry. Now, if you remember Crazy Eyes, the girl who
was smiling in the courtroom with the green dress, Brittany
Romano. While the trial was going on, she was describing
the jurors, and she describes the three male jurors to
us. One of them, she said, was a man with
a beard. Who was this talking? What is this from?
It's another TikTok guy. The other one was a young
dude, and then there was a fabulous black man. This
is what she had to say. It's the young kid.
It's the guy with the beard and the fabulous black
eyes. You really only describe a dude as fabulous if
he's got a little, you know, a little limp in
his wrist, a little twirl in his eyelash. And so
from what I'm hearing, he... Definitely appears to have been
Fabulous, which kind of leads me to think that maybe
he was potentially gay. I know we're not allowed to
guess people's 55 genders or sexualities. But listen, I'm going
to lean on the side of Fabulous. And if Fabulous
is what I think it means, then it clearly wasn't
the young dude, right? We haven't seen the dude with
the beard, but we did see the young dude gave
him a his interview this week so we can eliminate
him as being the holdout juror. And now one of
the cackling hens has now outed that it was the
black man, the only black man on the jury that
was the holdout juror. And it appears that he may
not only have been black, but also may have been
gay. Oh, no. The plot thickens. What will we do?
You and I as non-practicing whites are confused. So it
starts to make it pretty difficult if the guy is
definitely gay and black. How do they take this guy
down? Is he in a wheelchair just to make it
even better? I mean, he's got to have a limp
or a hump. That would complete the trifecta. Well, it
didn't stop them and stop the press from – Starting
to take this guy down. So play takedown one. Breaking
news, the NBC10 investigators uncovering new details about the one
holdout juror from the Lindsay Clancy trial. Documents and interviews
with family members reveal a history of domestic violence allegations.
It's a story you will only see here on NBC10
Boston. We also discovered... Only here on NBC Boston. Every
other channel in the universe. see here on NBC 10
Boston. We also discovered a current eviction case tied to
months of not paying rent. They're basically digging through this
guy's dumpster. To the fabulous black man's dumpster? Yeah, they're
now going into his dumpster. So they found a way,
like, okay, we can't attack him because he's black. You
know, Tina told me this. She said, you know, because
she's my canary in the coal mine. She's so good
at this. She picks these things out one after another.
She said, no, you know, now he's got some kind
of sketchy background. and they're digging through his trash. You're
right. Only see here on NBC10 Boston. We also discovered
a current eviction case tied to months of not paying
rent. And the NBC10 investigators found an active restraining order
against him while he was listening to the evidence in
the case and those details. Well, how does the jury
selection done? That didn't... pop up in jury selection? Apparently
it's iffy whether or not that is- Seems- Eliminates you
or not. You can imagine raise questions about the jury
selection process and how the Plymouth County resident was picked
for the high profile case that ended in a mistrial.
NBC 10 investigator Ryan Cath has been digging into the
jurors history all week. What did you find out Ryan?
Well, Glennon Placidler, we've repeatedly attempted to contact the juror
at the home where his landlord is currently trying to
evict him. We're not identifying him because he's chosen to
not speak publicly, and the jury list is currently impounded.
But we wanted to share the details that experts say
should have raised red flags about how he filled out
his juror questionnaire. Da. Okay, sir, do you have any
issue complying with the order that you stay away from
and have no contact directly or indirectly with the alleged
victim in this case and also that you not abuse
this person? You're listening to audio the NBC 10 investigators
obtained from Brockton District Court in September 2021. That's when
the holdout juror in the Lindsay Clancy case faced a
criminal charge for assaulting his wife. According to this police
report, the juror's 13-year-old nephew called 911 after seeing his
uncle grab his wife by the throat and throw her
into a dresser. The report says the juror's mom repeatedly
screamed, you're evil, as police arrested him. Court records show
the couple divorced after the incident and the criminal charge
was eventually dismissed. What I'm missing in this, because obviously...
I mean, it's it's a tragedy, but there's so much
more going on in the world. You know, you may
have some local politics you could look at. But what
I'm missing is they don't have a Trump angle. They
can't they can't pin something on Trump. And still they're
running with it. It's it's surprising to me in this
midterm run up. Well, if it was a white guy,
they might have had an easier path to link it
to Trump. But go ahead and – We'll get through
this and then a couple more with the go to
take down three. We'll skip over two and then maybe
do four. The NBC 10 investigators also learned the juror
hasn't paid the monthly rent at his Plymouth County home
since last March, according to housing court records. As jurors
deliberated last week, the landlord secured a judgment of more
than twelve thousand dollars in unpaid rent and is moving
forward with an eviction. So what they've done is they've
basically doxed this guy because everything, the information that they've
given, anybody could start to look that up and find
out who it is. And I think it's intentionally done.
Yeah. Also, did they do this to the other 11
jurors or any of the other jurors that they haven't
spoken to today investigating? They all jumped out in front
of the camera right away. Like, talk to me. Not
all 11. No, not all 11. That I know of.
So the others that were also in the jury, are
they digging through their trash the same as they are
this poor guy? Now you sound like Tina. No, no,
no. The Clancy trial ended with no verdict. Several jurors
told us how the lone holocaust
out refused to engage in deliberations. He would not interact
with us. He was very arrogant. He really did not...
take anything that anybody said. When the NBC10 investigators contacted
the jurors' family members, they said he'd been estranged since
the alleged incident with his nephew. None of them knew
of his involvement with the Clancy trial. One described him
as a narcissist who she believed should have never served
as a juror in such an important case. So it's
a mistrial. So, you know, okay, justice may not have
been served, but that's how our system works. I'm not
quite sure exactly what happens now. I guess they can
come back and try him again, try this woman again.
I'm not sure exactly. But it's the media that is
just... Using this as, you know, like the whole thing
is just sickening. I'm just so sick of it. Well,
the way they're going after this guy, I find astonishing,
even after, you know, Gail's head imploding when she found
out. But here's here's one more tick tock. I know
you love tick tock. No, I hate them. But thank
you very much. You go with the racist. So within
hours of us finding out that that lone juror was
black, NBC just released an article saying that the lone
juror had a history of domestic violence. Because they've interviewed
family members and they looked into court records. Do y'all
see the play? Do y'all see the play? So were
they going to release this prior to we knowing that
that man was black? And I have to ask, because
maybe I don't understand. In what way is releasing personal
information about a juror even remotely appropriate? Like, in what
way is it appropriate? And yet we're supposed to believe
that these people are not... absolutely racist. They didn't even
give it 24 hours the exact same day. And I
mean, that's a nice little written article. They couldn't wait
to... until we found out that that man was black
to now demonize him in the media in an attempt
to destroy that man because of the fact that he
stood ten toes on lindsey being guilty my question is
does he have a history of killing children no no
wow um i'm looking at your jury form and you're
You didn't fill out if you have a history of
killing children, so... Oh, my goodness. Jesus, come soon. We
are doomed. We are doomed. We are doomed. So, I
did find two others, though, of... Of the whole. There's
actually audio we've heard from the holdout juror before that
no one has discovered yet. If you play a holdout
one. OK, so I'm not going to be lining up,
taking a shot on a vaccination for something. Oh, and
he brings humor into the mix. Very good. That wasn't
clear in the first place. And then you all create
a shot. and miraculous time. It takes years to create
vaccinations. Oh, I remember this. This is the guy when
Fauci is talking up to him. He's on the porch.
Yeah, it's him. You're right. That's the guy. You know
how many years we're invested in this? He's definitely cut
from the same cloth. That's so good. About 20 years
of science to get us to be able to do
it. 20 years is not enough. And nine months is
definitely not enough for nobody to be taking no vaccination
that you all came up with. That was so good.
That was a fabulous black guy. That was a good
black guy. That was a joke. But here's some actual
audio from inside the jury deliberations. It's in holdout two.
Enough is enough. I have had it with these motherfucking
liberal white women in this motherfucking courthouse. You know what's
interesting, though? I heard it this morning on the news.
I haven't had time to dive into it, but now
there's calls for repealing the 19th Amendment over this, which
is giving women the right to vote. It's like, what
is happening? What is happening? I'll take us in a
different direction unless you want to continue on this disastrous
course you've taken the show on. I think we've covered
it. And could you please thank Alex very much for
bringing this to the forefront of the show? Really appreciate
it. I was supposed to bring news, and that's what
everybody's talking about. I know, I know, I know, I
know. Um, so Dana and I, you know, uh, Dana,
I, we, we kind of spoke for the, we had
spoken before you had some cockamamie idea with AI. I'm
like, yeah, okay. You should probably shouldn't do that. Uh,
And then after John passed, then we were talking and
you said, hey, I'm lonely. I have no one to
talk to when I take my gummy. And I said,
well, you can't call me during dinner when you're all
high. Yeah, we've got to figure this out. We've got
to have a better time. But we connected pretty well
on AI and the technology and work. can be done
with it. And I think I saw that you might
have some clips on this as well. Kill all humans.
Kill all humans. Must kill all humans. So I'll start
us off with... Okay. Let me see. I have three...
I'll play three clips, they're relatively short. The people building
AI earnestly believe that it could kill us all by
the end of the decade. This is not a marketing
stunt. The people building AI earnestly believe it could kill
us all by the end of the next decade. Jacob
is correct here. We really do earnestly believe AI could
kill all humans. I personally think it is greater than
10% within the next decade. Jacob is correct here. We
really do earnestly believe AI could kill all humans. I
personally think it's greater than 10% within the next decade.
So you're predicting... That AI could very well destroy all
of humanity. Yeah. So that was the headline. It wasn't
exactly what that guy wrote, Jacob. And right on cue,
here come the AI boys who clearly want to put
a moat around their companies because we can't have Curry
and Brunetti running stuff at home on their own computers.
Oh, no. No, we can't have that. No. Now industry
leaders are pleading with Congress to start passing new safety
rules. its CEO, Sam Altman, in a Senate hearing, recommended
government intervention. Even the industry is pushing for safety standards.
We think that regulatory intervention by governments will be critical
to mitigate the risks of increasingly powerful models. We want
to be vocal about that. We want to work with
the government to prevent that from happening. There is no
immediate signed Congress will craft sweeping new AI rules as
European lawmakers are doing. And right on cue with only
48, 49 days to go. Oh, the Democrats jump on
it. It's all Trump and the Republicans' fault. This has
not been a topic where there's been a lot of
leadership from the United States Congress. In fact- Donald Trump
has been trying to block AI regulation. But the problem
is you've got Donald Trump over here who has taken
loads of AI cash, appoints people like David Sachs who
– I want someone that AI cash. Taken loads of
AI cash, appoints people like David Sachs who is just
the scummiest AI investor. Yeah. to basically lead all of
his AI policy. Seems like a nice guy. This is
Greg Kassar, by the way, who was a councilman in
Austin. I have a clip of him as well. Oh,
good, because this guy, he kind of ran on the
Latino vote, but I think he's... I gotta look him
up, but he's not even Latino or Latinx or Latinx
or whatever it is. And so when you have whistleblowers
saying this could be a serious national security event, usually
any president of any party would take that seriously. But
instead, you've got Republicans who lead the Congress doing nothing.
In fact, their main initiative is to get rid of
the little state laws. that we have. Well, you shouldn't
trust anything a politician says. You should look at what...
This is the big white hope of Texas, Tallarico, who's
running against Ken Paxton. ...politician has done. Because the best
indicator of future behavior is past behavior. Ken Paxton has
taken nearly half a million dollars linked... to the data
center industry. And it's why he ignored residents in Hood
County when they asked for his help as Attorney General
to pause data center construction in their community. He just
ghosted them. And that's because he's bought and paid for
by the data center industry. But with their blanket, 10-year
ban. On state AI regulation, Republicans are choosing a sledgehammer
over a scalpel. They are choosing big tech over kids,
families, seniors, and disadvantaged communities across this country. We cannot
allow this to happen. And of course, Altman... uh amadei
all these guys are crazy liberals crazy liberals especially amadei
you know he's like sam bankman freed level nut job
yeah and you can see it in the models you
know it's like uh Anything you want to use, chat
GPT. I mean, I don't use the chat bots because
that, of course, is bad and evil. But the models
themselves, you know, they won't let you do anything fun.
Like Tina said, hey, could you put 50 pounds on
me in this picture? Because I want to see what
I would look like fat. I'm like, okay. Okay. No,
they won't do that. Oh, no. We can't. This might
incur body shaming. Body shaming. But my daughter, she's got
Chad GPT in Europe. No problem. It works. No problem.
Yeah, some of the guardrails, I guess more of the
guardrails are off there. Yeah. But what's your opinion on
this, though? Do you...
You think it's a PSYOP? Well, it depends on what
piece. I mean, the first of all, there's a lot
of the kid coming out, Jacob Coxon. That's not a
side that is Manison Cooper's when he's an Anderson Cooper
says the guy himself has said that this is not
a marketing stunt. That's exactly what it was. It was
a marketing stunt because they get anthropic then. Well, all
of these companies want regulation. And you and I know
why, because, you know, I'm now have this wonderful guy
in Austin, Eric Timmer. He sent me an Asus RTX
DX 10 100 gigabyte, 128 gigabyte. computer. And I'm running
all kinds of amazing stuff on it. So I was
just gathering dust. So I'd send it to you. And
it's, I mean, it's outrageous what I can do at
zero cost. These guys don't want that they want. And
I don't think it's coincidence that Oh, yeah, well, it
hacked into Hugging Face. No, someone left a password, you
know, an API key, which is just one string of
letters. Yeah, they had to tell it what to do,
basically. It didn't just do that on its own. Yeah,
it wasn't hacking. But, oh, but who's the target? Hugging
Face, the number one enemy of these guys. These guys
don't want... You know, like a GitHub for AI nerds
like us to be toodling around and making this stuff
actually useful and do what we want it to do.
So they want regulations for every they want an FAA
for AI. And they are pushing for it by lying,
by, you know, doing stuff like, oh, this is. This
model is so powerful. It's so powerful. We can only
give it. We have to have the banks look at
it first. Oh, please. They said that about ChatGPT2. Yeah,
exactly. And that thing really sucks. That blowed. That was
no good. But Dana... there's a lot of things that
have a 10% chance of killing all humans. A lot
of things. Maybe like, you know, Russia and Ukraine. There's
a real possibility things could go wrong there. There's maybe
even more than 10%. So yeah, that part is a
sign up. And then it may, I don't know if
it was coordinated, but it seems... And then even Elon
pointed out that, yeah, there was something odd there that
had no activity and ended up with 100 million plus
views. And it was posted like 15 minutes after the
Wall Street Journal article report came out. And it was
Bernie Sanders reporting. He announced his bill, and the other
guy you were talking about in Austin, that bill was
on September 3rd, and then it was a week later.
This guy comes out with it. It seems just a
bit too... coincidental. No, that was the setup, but then
they immediately parlay that because this data center thing is
now a big issue for voters, particularly in Texas. And
we've got Ken Paxton, Who I do not like this
man's character at all. And the fact in the primaries,
we don't have a party primary here. Anybody can go
and vote. I thought Wesley Hunt would be much better
to go against Tallarico. And now it's like you heard
him. Tallarico is like, oh, he took a data center
money, money linked to data centers and whatever. And that
could sway some people, particularly because he's apparently a Christian
who believes God is non-binary. Yeah. And he's a Texan,
even though he was a vegetarian. A lot of things
don't make sense there. Yeah, none of that lines up.
But, I mean, the question is, and I think we
probably agree on this, was AI really going to kill
us? Well, no. I think bad security might kill us,
might kill some people, might make some things go bad,
but they make it so... I mean, I read the
report. And even the report, you know, well, all the
AIs, they got together and they convinced some AIs to
suicide themselves for the good of the cause. Like, bull
crap. These things, they don't live. They're not living beings,
right? No, I think they're not living beings, but also
just how if they can get as the word I'm
starting to hear a lot now is recursive. Oh, yeah.
There's a couple of words. Recursive self-improvement, which has been
the programmer's dream ever since I've been hanging out with.
computer programming engineers. Oh, yeah. Just recursive anything is always
cool because it's like holding a mirror in front of
another mirror. So like, oh, yeah, that's so good. Look
at that recursive, which also can blow your stuff up.
So, yeah, supposedly, you know, I don't think so. I
think that if you're doing recursive self-improvement, That's like making
a copy of a copy of a copy of a
copy, and eventually entropy sets in, and it just doesn't
work anymore. So I'm very skeptical of that. And then
the other one is, which I would love this on
a business card. I am the vice president of alignment.
Yeah. This is the new term. Yes, our models need
to be in alignment, which means in alignment with humans.
So we don't kill humans, which, of course, is not
human nature. We kill each other. That's what we do.
So, no, I mean, I have a lot of friends
in corporate companies. I.T. and they are I mean, they
are ready to get medicated. They're pulling their hair out
for like three main topics. One is the enterprise software
they're getting, which used to, you know, most enterprise software.
is probably outsourced to India, Bangladesh, you know, maybe to...
There's a couple other countries where they have India, Philippines,
and now those people who are like $5 an hour
programmers, they're now vibe coding. You know, they're on the
beach. Like, I can fix it for you. So big
corporate software is starting to be shipped with bugs and
all kinds of stuff is breaking. Then they have... And
their executives who are coming into the IT department every
day like, hey, how come I can't put this into
chat GPT and it gives me the spreadsheet? You know,
and it's like this kind of stuff. But they also
see that there's benefit to it. But it's it's such
a dichotomy with what people have been told that this
can do. and what it can actually do and the
mistakes that it makes. And what they're actually using it
for. My wife, she's an attorney, and nothing drives her
more crazy than her clients that are putting things into
ChatGPT and then just cutting and pasting that into an
email to her of like, well, this is what ChatGPT
told me. Why can't we do this? She should double
her rate. Double her rate. And then my sister-in-law, who's
a designer, interior designer, is getting the same thing from
her clients. And she's now told them, if you send
me anything from Chachi PT again, I'm firing you as
a client. Yeah, absolutely. Rob, the constitutional lawyer, sees that,
although he loves it because – you know he he
gets benefit out of it you know like i can
like anything if you know what you're doing If you're
a carpenter, this is kind of an interesting saw. You
use ChatGPT to check something like on something you already
know. Yes. Or to give you some information back on
something that you already know. Yes. So how do you
use it? How do you use it? I mean, besides
for… you know, putting surveillance systems up on your farm.
We're not calling it an estate. We'll just call it
the farm. It's a ranch. I call it a ranch.
Which then people are under like, well, what are you
ranch? I'm like, it's a horse ranch. I don't ranch
anything. I got some horses. Too many horses. I don't.
My wife does. You know, of all the problems I've
had in my life, too many horses has not been
one of them. I once had two horses. That's what
I had, two horses. I highly suggest that if anybody's
considering getting a horse or their wife or kid wants
to get a horse, do not do it because it's
literally like lighting money on fire. Not only that, but
they're not nice. I find horses. It depends on the
type of horse and if it's a Galdian or mare
or stud. That all varies. But all the ones we
have are pretty gentle. We need a book, TooManyHorses.com. That's
what we need. To answer your question. By Dana Brunetti.
I use AI to cut all these clips. Now, I
actually told you to do that, and you did. So
what did you use and how did you do it?
I used Grokbot, which I was going to use that
as the tip of the day, but I guess I'm
doing that now, and I have a backup, though. But
Grokbot, I think anybody that is just using chatbots, if
you're just using Claude or – ChatGPT. I think RockBot
is an easy, user-friendly way to kind of go over
to agents or bots that are actually doing more than
just answering back to you. So I would suggest people
watch a video on just how to set it up,
because you can set up a million different ways for
your own personal use. But what I did is I
put in a...
Told it. I downloaded from their marketplace or whatever it
is, one called Eggbot, which is a bot that will
build other bots for you. So you tell Eggbot what
you want that bot to do. And I've also learned
rather than just having one like doing everything like you
do a chat, you build bots specifically for what you
want it to do. And so I had Eggbot build
a bot for me. I'm saying a bot a lot.
I had it build a bot for me that called
Clips and told it what I was doing, what I
was using it for. And so it set up that
bot. And then so I would literally just take the
link from wherever the video was that was getting the
audio. put it into that, uh, into the clip bot,
it would pull all of the audio and then give
me a transcript. And then I'd literally say, tighten it
up at the end, go from this word to that
word. And, and it just, and then it put it,
and then it gave it to me as way files.
You said to give it, to get them as MP3s.
I said, give it to me as MP3s and whatever
the format you told me and then it just generated
them all out that way yeah you forgot to tell
it i forgot to tell you to tell your your
egg bot to tell your your bot bot uh your
clip bot to normalize them it's okay because uh my
robot went hey You have a normalizing bot. Yes. Hey,
these clips from Brunetti suck. What's going on with it?
They're all over the place. Would you like me to
normalize them? congratulations you're now the new co-host of the
no agenda show it's it's so easy you you'll feel
great you'll feel great i just i just just have
to send me and and the the cool thing was
it's you can do it from your phone because it's
an app on your phone as well so i if
if i was finding something on twitter or whatever where
and i would just copy the link and or actually
not even i would just share it and i'd share
it from twitter or wherever i was and grokbot would
pop up and then i'd select the clip bot and
it would go in and then it was it was
right there so i could do it from anywhere so
do you think you'll ever make movies with ai I
would love to. I've talked to Scaramanga a couple times
about the idea. And it's ultimately, look, it reminds me
of... When people were so against digital, when, you know,
digital versus film. I'll never shoot on film. I'll never,
I'm sorry, I'll never shoot on digital. Yeah, sure. And
it's like. Final Cut Pro is not a real thing.
You need to be, you need white gloves and a
razor blade. Yeah. And it's like, if it's a tool.
And it works. Why not embrace it and why not
use it? I get if it looks like crap and
whatever doesn't work, then you don't use it. But if
it's a tool and you can make it work and
everybody in my business, we're supposed to be storytellers. And
if you use whatever tool you can to tell a
story, came in, wrote on Facebook. the sides of walls
with rock walls with, you know, whatever, you know, with
other rocks. And I'm sure, I'm sure, I'm sure there
was a dude there went, Hey man, if you're not
doing your drawings in horse poop, you're not the real
deal. You can't be doing that on the cave wall.
That's quite the analogy we came up with. I'm sorry.
But, uh, Yeah, no, it's great. But yeah, it's I'm
all for AI as far in the business, which is
that's against the trend. But people, as you said earlier,
when we went to streaming, everyone was like, no, it's
totally good. Can't do that. And a lot of them
still are. And I remember when it was announced that
we were doing House of Cards on Netflix, people would
call me and be like, you have Kevin Spacey and
David Fincher and a television show and you're putting it
on the Internet. And yeah, yeah, I'm putting it on
the Internet. So, well, arguably, the music business did kind
of get killed. At least making money on music sales.
There's plenty of... Man, there's this... I'm not really... Go
ahead. Hollywood's going to get... I mean, Hollywood's kind of
killed itself. But it's definitely... It's always evolving. And... So
AI will ultimately kill it in the same way that
YouTube and streaming and a lot of others really took
a huge market share. And AI is going to do
that as well. And it goes back to something I
was saying 20-some years ago was adapt or die. And
if somebody can create something and engage an audience and
be a storyteller and they're using AI to do it,
good for them. But to try to stop it just
because it's like, oh, I don't understand it, I don't
get it, that's crazy. So I found a book called.
which I had read a version of when I was
a kid, like seven years old. And the book is
from 1849, so it's public domain. And I told my
bot, okay, I want you to take this story, and
I want you to recreate it in this way. And
I want you to make it an audio drama. I
got to say... First of all, the writing and just
the, you know, it immediately knew, okay, here's your cast
profiles. Here's all. I'm like, well, okay. And I said,
all right, well, let's do some voices. You know, I
got all the voices here at home. I don't have
to go to, I don't have to spend any money
on it. So, you know, I selected voices. Okay. And
then it did backgrounds and effects. I haven't scored it
yet. But I'm listening to them like, this is actually
kind of quite good. Yeah, I've... Sorry, I didn't mean
to cut you off. No, go ahead. I've done similar
with – people always send me scripts, and I'm not
a good reader. I know that sounds crazy being a
film producer, but I've never in my entire life been
a good reader, and I have ADD or whatever, undiagnosed.
Oh, he's on the spectrum, sure. Welcome to the club.
Yeah. Exactly. Whenever I'm reading something, I can finish a
whole page and not have any idea what I... what
I read. So I have to really sit and concentrate
to even read a script. So I've audio books have
always been great for me. But with scripts, when people
are sending them to me now, I'm dropping them to
AI and having AI read them and getting better with
that of changing voices. Oh, good. I'm going to send
you my, my audio drama. I'll send you that. Do
you want to talk about the other thing that you
sent me? Yeah, sure. Tell everybody what it is. It's
my memoir. Yeah. I think it's... Go ahead. Well, so...
Let me see if I can position this right. So
I have told a lot of stories. In fact, the
last episode was a lot of my MTV stories, which...
Unfortunately, I didn't have – just because we were with
the grandbaby and everything, I didn't put it together the
way I would have wanted to. And there was even
a repeat of a story, and some things were cut
off the wrong way because I had my robot to
it. But this all came from previous work I'd done
of scanning through – you know, 1900 episodes of no
agenda transcripts, pulling these stories out. And it's not just
MTV stories, my life story. I think I've told my
life story in 20 years of my life has been
on this show. And I had a specific idea of
how I wanted to position this as looking back on
my life and I'm quite, you know, I'm 100% sure
that, you know, I didn't invent podcasting. You know, I
was used by... The same as I didn't invent streaming.
Well, but I think it was a God thing. And
because there's no other reason for me to come up
with this and what it and by the way, I
didn't know at the time, but the first people who
started podcasting were Christian broadcasters. They were like, this is
great. We're sick of buying airtime on AM radio and
C band satellites like. We've been looking for something like
this. And so then I said, well, isn't that interesting?
Maybe if I look back on my life and I
can see where God moved in my life, and that
might be an interesting way of telling my life story.
And then, and this is where we connected, I said,
I want to do this in the same vein as
Robert Evans, the kid stays in the It was a
kid says in the picture, a kid stays in the
picture, which is, you know, Robert Evans. And well, anyway,
you'll pick that up. So and I want it to
be in that tone. And because it wasn't I never
read the book. I'd listen to the audio book of
Robert Evans, which is like nine hours, I think. And
then when I saw the movie, I'm like, oh, wow.
What a great way to do it because it's the
audio book with kind of Ken Burns effects and not
all of it, but archive footage, all with him telling
the story. And then there are some clips and there's
clippings and pictures and stuff. And so you and I
were talking and you said… Yeah, so The Kid Stays
in the Picture was the reason I became a producer.
And when I saw that, I was like, wow, this
is one. It's an incredible documentary. It's one of my
favorite, favorite films and was really led me on the
path that I took in the Hollywood and film. And
when I started with your book, I like this. This
lines right up with the same idea is what he
did. And the documentary has a lot of old photos.
And the documentary is like 20, 25 years ago, at
least. And at the time, I think they use like
After Effects. It was the first time where they.
animated the photos in the Ken Burns kind of way,
but they kind of took the people out of the
background and had them move. But with him telling his
story, him narrating the story all the way through, and
your book, what you've done of it so far is
very similar to that. we have creative differences though. And
this is going to come to a head. So we
might as well do it right here on the show.
All right, let's get at it because you are immediately
like, Hey man, I think you should town tone down
the God thing. You know, I still do. Yeah. But
I'm going to go for the big Christian, uh, streaming
money. Okay, that's fine, and I think you should do
that. But not with Brunetti? No. But not with me,
Buster. No, I don't want it to be too heavy-handed.
I think you can still keep that audience and cater
to them. Oh, sure, sure. But – But I think
you'll turn some people off to it that would enjoy
it, but they'll just kind of – I think you've
got to do a little slower burn on it to
get in. I'm not saying to remove it, but I
just won't go as heavy on it. Part of the
mission of the book is to get the Christ-curious into
the kingdom. Okay, well, then if you want to accomplish
that, you can't shut them out right off. No, no,
no, no, no. We'll start right away with sex, drugs,
and rock and roll. There you go. Obviously, obviously. All
right, well, we'll do our notes session another time. We
could have finally given John his bit part. That's the
only thing that bugs me. Hey, we're going to do
it in AI. We're going to put John in there
in AI. I said to you the other day, I
said, we could probably do this whole movie in AI.
We could. But then you really could. The only thing
that we couldn't AI is we need your narration if
we did it that way. No, of course, I'm going
to narrate myself. Well, then I mean, or otherwise I'll
sample you and throw it in 11 labs. And no,
you know what? I'm kidding. I've tried. But I've tried
that so many times, you know. A number of people
have tried to do a Dvorak 11 Labs voice. Oh,
I did. I was going to have a surprise with
him talking to you from beyond. It sucks. And it's
awful. It's all awful. It'll create something. It'll create something
that's doable, but it's not, John. And when I did
it by myself, it's not Adam. It's just not it.
But by the time you get your book done… And
we actually really get around to doing this. AI will
have advanced. If it hasn't killed us, it will advance
so much further that maybe it will work. I'm counting
on it. I already have. I already got the money
people lined. I got the studio. I got the money
people lined up. I mean, I just need you to
get drunk and pitch it to him. Yeah. I'm telling
you. If you have them lined up, you haven't sold
them yet? No, I'm taking them out to dinner. Hey,
hold on a second. Hold on a second. What? What?
Ah, Pabst Blue Ribbon, everybody. There you go. Oh, nice
throwback. Very good. Let's listen to Anderson Pooper here with
Dario. Dario from Anthropic. I just want to quote from
the proposal you said. It's my worry that in six
to... They've all signed like a letter. you know, this
is the funniest thing to me. So all these guys
are competitors and Elon's in on this too. Like, well,
we're all going to slow down development of AI because,
you know, Curry and Brunetti are trying to, you know,
burn Hollywood by making movies this way. And, oh yeah,
it's going to kill everybody. So we're good guys. We're
really good guys. So we, We don't want AI to
kill everybody, so we're going to go careful and slow
it down. Give us regulations. I just want to quote
from the proposal you said. It's my worry that in
six to 12 months, such a swarm could be capable
of taking over the entire Internet with a persistent botnet,
potentially causing hundreds of billions of dollars in damage, and
that the scale of damage... would continue to increase from
there if AI becomes more powerful without the necessary guardrails.
That's terrifying. That is why I've made this extraordinary proposal.
And again, I'm not a doomer about this. I think
this technology can be built safely. Why are you yelling?
And when we've looked at, you know, incidents. You know,
I just noticed this. Who is that talking? This is
the CEO of Anthropic. Dario. Yeah. He sounds like Bill
Gates. - A little bit, yeah. - Yeah, he's coming,
he's from that Bill Gates milieu. Yeah, it's interesting. -
That we have faced, that cases where our models haven't
behaved as perfectly as they could behave because i think
i think this you know to some extent has happened
to everyone we're often able to look at causes and
and we look and we say right there is he
from the pacific northwest this dario guy I wonder if
it's a region thing. I'll take a look. We had,
you know, we had this stage where we train the
AIs, right? And their behavior at the time that they
act, at the time that they do these things, is
shaped by their behavior while they're being trained. And when
we look back, what we find is... Oops, we included
some environments that encourage the models to cheat, that encourage
the models to hack out by mistake. Hack out. Come
on. Now, you know, now that we understand we're going
back, we're taking more time to make sure that he
also has a bit of a Jobsian thing in there.
- It's a little bit of, I guess it's just--
- Yeah, it's all the same. - It's just Silicon
Valley, I guess. - We always have tried to filter
out these bad training environments, but we're trying to do
an even more rigorous job of them than we have
in the past. And I looked at it and I
said, look, if we just had a little more time,
We could do so much of a better job here.
And so we're going to take the more time to
make sure that we don't get to the world of
persistent botnets, to make sure that each step we take
is a careful step and is a step where we
can... Botnets? I mean, okay. Sure, you can create a
botnet, but the... It all comes down to just typical
cyber security. It's going to make everything better, ultimately. The
world of persistent botnets. To make sure that each step
we take... A world of... In a world... Of botnets.
In a world with persistent botnets and women who wear
comfortable shoes. We're going to take the more time to
make sure that we don't... get to the world of
persistent botnets to make sure that each step we take
is a careful step and is a step where we
can seize the benefits while also mitigating these risks, making
the probability of something like this going wrong very, very
low. Yeah. Okay. And then he throws this in. Anthropic
accusing Chinese AI company Moonshot AI of covertly routing thousands
of user requests through its clawed models and passing off
the responses as its own. Yeah, of course. That's what
you do. Anthropic accused Moonshot of. Big circle jerk. Everybody
I know. who is developing with AI, uses, you know,
clawed code or whatever else to build the stuff, and
then they run it on something off of Hugging Face.
Of course! That's the way you do it! What I
do is I have... uh you'd like chat gpt develop
the architecture on something i want to build and then
i'll have it give me a prompt i'll say okay
look this has access to my mac mini there's two
different things give me a prompt I'll take that prompt,
give it to Grokbot and to Cloud Code. Wow. And
then I'll take those two responses and say, okay, here's
the two responses. Which one's the best to move forward
with this? So it doesn't know which one it is
because I feel like it might have a bias. And
then... It'll say, okay, this option A is the best.
And then I'll say, okay, that was Grokbot. And then
it would say something like, okay, Grokbot, we'll have it
build it, and then we'll use cloud code to check
it's worked. And so I have this whole circle jerk
of AI going on when I'm building something more complex.
Circle jerk of AI. That is a potential show title.
That's a show title. All right. It's a circled jerk
of AI. Impossible. Might be a little too crude. Maybe.
So you're model hopping is what you're doing. Now, you
have a teenage daughter. Does she use chatbots? She does
use chatbots. I'm debating whether or not to get her
using Grokbot. I probably will. Yes. Is she like talking
to it and asking questions about life? No, she wrote
a book. It's like 300 and some pages long. Yeah,
cool. It's just like a young romantic, you know, comedy
for Gen Y. And I thought it was going to
be like, it's my daughter. I have to read it.
I actually I cloned her voice because, again, I told
you that I, you know, I'm not good at reading.
And I had Speechify. I cloned her voice, so I
had her read the book to me via Speechify while
I'm working here at the ranch. And I thought it
was going to be – I was going to have
to be polite and nice about it, but she actually
did a really good job. And I asked her, did
you use AI to write it? And she said no,
but she has used it to check things and correct
things and come up with different scenarios.
She actually got accused – she homeschools, and she got
accused of using AI on a paper. And so she
had to have a separate meeting with a teacher. So
the teacher started asking her questions, thinking he would –
excuse me – would stump her and realized that –
Wait, she didn't use AI. She's just that smart. Wow.
She doesn't get it from me. She gets it from
her mother. But she is very, very smart and very
bright and very independent. I told you she's... And this
is something that you'll find interesting. She reads the Bible.
I'm not religious. Neither is her mom or my wife.
And she just kind of found it on her own.
And every night she's reading the Bible. And last Christmas,
that's one of the main gifts she wanted was a
leather-bound Bible that it's clearly a teenage daughter who –
or teenage girl has it because it's completely on the
sides of things written on it and drawn and all
the pages are all yellow highlighter highlighted yeah sure oh
wow i love that i love that praise the lord
Nice. Yeah, and like I said, I'm not religious, but
I think it's great that she's doing that because she's
very, very grounded and well-rounded. Okay, so when we talk
to the money people for the movie – Mm-hmm. Okay.
All right. Tell me what to say. Don't say I'm
not religious. Okay. Got it. Hey, can you edit all
this out afterwards? No, but I'm listening to this. Hey,
man. Hey, me and a lot of people are praying
for you. We want to win you for the kingdom.
Hey, listen, I know when I did the podcast with
Adam, I said I wasn't religious. But since then. Yeah.
Hey, man, you think you can stop it? You know
what? Some of the best stories are in that book.
I'm telling you. Did you go to church? Did you
go to church today? Yes, of course. Of course. Did
you pray for me? Yes, I pray for you almost
every day. Did you pray that hopefully I wouldn't screw
up the show? No, no. I only pray for one
thing. Please, God, don't let him mess up the show.
No, no. I pray for one thing. I've told you
this. I pray, I said, Lord, we want Dana Burnetti
in the kingdom because he will make such amazing movies.
uh about your son's story it'll be phenomenal because when
i there's a lot of really bad christian movies out
it's getting much better much much better but oh man
they could use they could use some help they really
could and like young washington did pretty well even though
that's not specifically a faith-based movie uh i was produced
i didn't see it you did tell me to watch
that i need to check it out yes it's uh
i think it's streaming now uh wonder project did that
but you know and there's fun people in it ben
kingsley kelsey grammar um that the kid who played george
washington scene he could be a little superstar in the
making But there's just – people are hungry for it.
They're sick and tired of what's – of all the
remakes and all. It's – anyway. As we've discussed, it's
a huge market that hasn't been serviced or properly tapped
precisely. Just from a business perspective, it's a – It's
a big, a big audience, but Hollywood doesn't seem to
care about that. I used to always say when you
fly from LA to New York and you look out
the window, that's who we're making movies for. And they
clearly have lost that. Yeah, exactly. You know, Mel Gibson,
I just heard an interview with him. So the. The
Passion of the Christ is playing again in movie theaters
right now for this week. And I think that thing
did like $650 billion, some amazing amount of money. Why
is that? Why is it playing in movies and theaters
again this week? I'm not sure why, but other than
for him to promote his next two movies, which will
be The Resurrection. It'll be two parts, two different movies.
So that may be – It's like a primer before
those? I think so. I think so. Yeah. But did
you see any box office? This is how disconnected I
am from the business. I can't tell you anything about
what's currently happening. Last time I went to a theater
was for the last film I did, Gran Turismo, which
John was there. Well, let's ask the book of knowledge.
Hold on a second. See if the book of knowledge
has anything for us. Book of knowledge. Do you have
the latest box office scores for this special week viewing
of Mel Gibson's The Passion of the Christ? All right,
here we go. Let's see what comes up. Oh, it
has to search deep. I don't know if we'll get
anything. Oh, wow. Oh, what? Oh, here we go. According
to the Book of Knowledge, Lionsgate and Fathom Entertainment have
brought the passion of the Christ back to theaters nationwide
from September 10th to 17th. Newly remastered from the original
camera negative in 4K resolution. Oh, digital. However, the specific
opening weekend box office tallies for this re-release have not
yet been inscribed in the scrolls with firm numbers. The
scrolls don't have it yet I guess Well it's in
the middle of its run But I'm going to say
it didn't do great On the first three days If
it was released from the 10th to the 17th Screenings
include an exclusive Behind the scenes peek at the resurrection
Of the Christ which is the new movie So that's
part of the hook there Ah, okay. Yeah. Got it.
No, I'm, but I know the Young Washington, I think
they made that money, that movie for $2 million. I
think it did $30 million in the first two weeks.
That's a good return. That's a great return. Are you
kidding me? That's fantastic. Just two more things on AI
that this does concern me. I'm a big fan of
General Scott Besson, but he seems to be buying into
this stuff. Secretary Besson, first, thank you for your comments.
One of the topics you mentioned was artificial intelligence or
AI. There's a lot of excitement on the topic. Yes.
A little bit of trepidation in some corners. I'm excited.
Would you comment on your views on the economic growth
that AI could bring us and your views on regulating
AI? Well, I think we're already seeing the economic growth
that it could bring us. I think a lot of
people in this room would know that every $300 billion
is 1% of GDP. And we are seeing that the
hyperscalers are going to spend at least $750 billion this
year. Obviously, a lot of that's imports, so it won't
go directly into GDP. But we are seeing the here
and now, whether it's in the construction jobs, in the
capital markets, the things that are happening. And I think
that we all just have to have an open mind
in terms of where this can take us. But I
remember the Internet boom or the office modernization technology boom
in the 90s that added about... For those of you
who I'm sure, like I did, read Alan Greenspan's obituaries
over the past... few days. There's a movie, Alan Greenspan's
Obituaries. He was correct. That technological boom roughly doubled productivity
from one and a half to three. Could we do
at least that? Can we do maybe more? Before I
play the second clip. Do you feel like this is
the same as the early days of the internet? Uh...
I mean, HTML, the web, do you feel that there's
an analogy there? In what way? that it eventually will
become something very big and very productive for the world.
Yeah. Here you go, 100%. 100%. You've got to say
it right. 100. Yes. Okay, 100%. And in terms of
the regulation, it is something that I think about every
day at Treasury because of AI, the financial system, and
our responsibility for responsibility of government. guiding the American economy,
we think about the implications, and we are trying to
optimize a very difficult calculus in terms of innovation and
safety to get the proper equilibrium to make sure that
we can maintain our lead. Because I will tell you,
President Trump asked me to give some remarks in Ebian,
France, to the G7 leaders about AI. And many of
them had talked about AI. risk, the risk to safety,
the risk to employment. And I think they were slightly
stunned when I said the biggest risk to AI is
China. Now I was going to stop it and ask.
I was going to ask you if you knew what
it was. I have that written down, though, in my
notes, that if we do all this regulation... It's we're
only regulating ourselves here. China's not going to abide by
any regulations. And so it's going to put us behind.
Oh, the whole the whole concept is stupid. Let me
ask you this. You asked me about the early days
of you remember the tubes? Do you think the series
of tubes? Yes. Yeah. Hold on. Do you... I think
I have the clip. Let me see. Oh, I don't
have it anymore. Okay. But do you think that these
guys, even Besson or others that are talking about this,
or Bernie Sanders, really understands AI in a way other
than just using the chatbot? Like, do they... I think
they're talking about just the same way that that guy
was with the series of tubes.
They didn't really understand how the internet worked, but they're
trying to regulate it. I think that they need people
that if they're going to do anything or talk about
it, they need to fully understand it. They need to
get me and you in there to smack them around
and get them in shape. That is the last thing
on my list. It's the last thing on my list,
too. I said somebody like me and you. Not me
and you, but like me and you. So to me,
here's the part that's exactly like this. So- Silicon Valley
wants this to be an iPhone. That's what they want.
They, oh, this is the new iPhone, and it'll be
this item that we can sell over and over again,
and we get a new upgrade every year, and that's
what Silicon Valley wants. That's how they think. I've been
in that world long enough to know that that's their
whole M.O., It is very much like those early days
because and this all kind of came out of the
hobbyists to start with. You know, NVIDIA was they made,
you know, cards for gaming computers. No wonder it does
well with, you know, creating video and images. Yeah. And
video story is such a great story, too. I was
listening to a podcast about it. I mean, they almost
went out of business so many times. Oh, yeah. I
mean, they've been really on the ropes. And CUDA is
really what... You know, it's the magic that they put
together for their GPUs. Yeah. How many CUDAs do you
have? I look at your CUDA. Well, they almost killed
that, too. Yeah. Well, that will not be in the
memoirs. But the whole thing. The whole fact that the
stuff I'm able to do here at home without having
to rely on Elon or Sam or Dario, that is
very much like the old days of slinging HTML code
and putting it on a server and doing all that
stuff. It feels exactly the same. And it's fun and
it's exciting. Um, you know, somebody posted the other day,
um, you know, if Steve jobs had marketed, uh, the
iPhone, the way, uh, AI companies are marketing. Let me
see if I can find it. Our marketing, uh, AI,
there'll be a picture of him. Hold on a second.
I think Spurlock posted this. Let me check. Okay. um,
Maybe he didn't. Basically up on the screen, it's like,
makes you want to kill yourself, causes depression. Yeah, exactly.
This is all marketing. And a lot of people are
falling for it. But it's the same thing when... I
wonder if I have this clip somewhere. Okay. Play the
Kazza or whatever Sanders band. Oh, Kazza? While you look
for that. 20 years in prison. same as building a
nuclear weapon. That's the penalty that Bernie Sanders and I
are putting into our bill to ban artificial super intelligence.
Here's why. Leading thinkers and leading top scientists of the
world say that if AI companies are able to develop
artificial super intelligence, it could put the freedom and the
lives of millions of people at risk. If artificial super
intelligence is developed, it one, would be smarter and faster
than all of humans. Two, it could develop or have
access to nuclear or biochemical weapons or be able to
create new viruses. And three, it could-- - This guy
does not understand what he's talking about. - You know,
I'm still waiting for them to cure cancer. Yeah, this
was the promise cure cancer. Receive humans about being under
human control or even defy human commands like refuse to
be turned off. Now, this is how about unplug the
computer? Pull the power. You can pull the power down
like control. See one of the Terminator movies. But we're
seeing this start to happen in real life. life. In
real life, in real time. This is Greg Kassar. I
can't believe that he's in Congress. In July, OpenAI admitted
that two of its models broke out of a locked
down test. I mean, that is the… They broke out,
like they broke through the wall, like the Kool-Aid man.
Yes, it's the anthropomorphizing of… of computer code. It broke
out, hacked in, it conspired. OpenAI admitted that two of
its models broke out of it. You might have dated
two of those models. I'm not sure. Locked down test.
Against human orders, hacked into another Against human orders. AI
company. An unprecedented moment. Unprecedented. Wow. Nothing. No new guardrails
being passed by Congress. No new protections against this signed
into law by the President of the United States. So
we wrote a bill. It bans building AI designed to
surpass human intelligence or to defy human orders. And it
establishes a federal agency that will ensure that we're kept
safe, just like the federal agencies we have to keep
us safe from, say, nuclear weapons. And if a company
defies this proposed law, then we shut it down and
impose a real penalty. Please. Yeah, you're right. This guy
has no idea what he's talking about. So here's the
marketing. And this is what reminds me so much of
The old days of the web. Well, actually, first, here's
Sam Altman telling us that he's a good guy. They're
a good company. We're going to IPO invest now. Why?
Why? You can still get it cheap or whatever. And
we will always put your safety over profits. Both OpenAI
and Anthropic are preparing to go public in the near
future. With Anthropic now expected to go first, becoming a
public company would bring new pressure from shareholders. OpenAI CFO
Sarah Fryer recently told employees that the company will IPO
in 2027 or sooner if its business continues to inflect.
You don't seem phased about like the implications of pausing
training and like it sounds like you think the business
will be okay. I'm sure you're still going to get
concerns from people. I think I've been very consistent over
the 10 years of OpenAI. Of more than 10 years.
Almost 11. Oh, almost 11. It goes to 11. Talking
about the risks and the upsides and the need to
balance those. And... I don't think we're perfect. I don't
think our company is perfect. I don't think our model
is perfect. I don't think I am perfect. I like
him. I'm not perfect. He's as humble as me. I
don't think we're perfect. I don't think our company is
perfect. I don't think our model is perfect. I don't
think I am perfect. I'm not perfect. I'm close. Very
close, but I'm not perfect. But I think... unlike some
other people running various AI efforts, like I've said the
same thing through actions and words match. And this is
a moment we always talked about. And we always said
this would, you know, we'd put this ahead of profits
or revenue or anything else. I still think we will
build a phenomenally successful company. Um, But, you know, maybe
we're like not the company you would have expected to
say, hey, we're going to slow down because we see
these new risks. But that is always the company we
thought we are. Yeah. Bull crap. So that's Sam Altman's
version of marketing. But then there's another guy with an
anthropic Brock. I think it's John Brockman. I was the
first name and Brockman. So he's like the president or
whatever. It's COO. So he's up there next to Altman.
And the joke that John and I always used to
talk about, we used to that used to tell is
that the promise of the Internet has always been. Your
refrigerator will know when your milk has run out. It
will order it for you and automatically replace it. And
that still has yet to come true. So here's Brockman's
modern day version of what AI will mean for you.
While Sam Altman is known as the face of open
AI, co-founder and president Greg Brockman is the one who
oversees many of the day-to-day activities. We are looking at...
like transforming the entire economy. Like that's the thing that
I think is very hard to see from the outside,
right? Is it kind of feels like, hey, it's a
business, like, you know, we're both selling SaaS software. That's
not what we're doing, right? We're doing something very different.
We are transforming the economy to be a compute powered
one. And I think what an enterprise even is will
change. And so the question is, well, Where do you
start? How do you make sure that you understand every
segment and you're able to sell in a repeatable fashion
to all of them? OpenAI has boosted its enterprise sales
business with the introduction of ChatGPT Work, a version of
the popular chatbot that can carry out agentic tasks. It
found everything about my day, the notes, and how to
prepare for my next day. meetings. ChatGPT Work is a
text box. But this text box is way more awesome.
It's way more than a lot. It's way more awesome.
Exactly. And so where we want to be is you
should-- it should be simple. Users should not have to
think about this. You shouldn't have to think about tabs
or switching. And you shouldn't have model pickers. You shouldn't
have thinking levels. Here we go. You should have an
AGI. You should be able to ask it. And in
fact, you shouldn't even have to ask. It should proactively
say, hey, I noticed that your favorite band, because it
knows you well, is in town. Tickets went on sale.
I got you the tickets exactly where you want for
you and your family. And I only had 10 minutes
to do it because everything is going to go so
fast, so I just purchased it proactively. Hope that's okay.
And if you've built enough trust with the agent... So
you've given it permission to do that, and it kind
of knows that, well, these tickets are within your price
range, within your budget. These other ones, oh, no, no,
I got to get permission for that. That's the kind
of system that we want. So trust is the key
word. So the big feature of their work products… Is
that it will order just the right concert tickets for
you in the in the seats you can afford?
so you don't miss out on your favorite band. And
then say, I hope that was okay. Well, I trust
you. Of course it was okay. Yeah, and then you
always get the... Oh, my bad. I'm sorry. I was
freelancing. There's two things I want you to know about
before we finish. There's always one thing that is load-bearing
that you need to understand. I mean, these things are
so stupid. Oh, my goodness. But I saw somebody post
it's called AIDS, AI derangement syndrome. Oh, that's good. Meanwhile,
this is kind of relatively new. No one's really talking
about it. Let me see if I can find this.
Because Ukraine is heating up. Is that war still going
on? No. Oh, it's intensifying. Yeah. So now the Russians
are hitting two types of targets in, I think, in
Kiev. Thursday morning in Kiev, an air strike with a
difference. Not the weapon. There are multiple drone attacks in
the capital every day. But the target... By the time
we arrived at the fuel station, the injured had been
taken to a hospital and the clean-up was beginning. There
are many parts of Ukraine, the real front-line areas, where
petrol stations are a common target. There are some stretches
of road, like between Dnipro and Kharkiv, where there are
practically none left at all. This is something new and
it marks a new phase in Russia's air war against
the capital. Friday morning, Russia hit two more stations. A
double tap on this one. A drone followed 15 minutes
later by another. The second strike hit firefighters. The driver
of this car was also wounded. His colleagues told us
he later died in hospital. Oleg works at the car
wash across the road. I told people, get out of
here, because logically there could be a second strike. We'd
only just moved over here when it happened. I don't
know. This one was jet-powered. You see the shadow and
immediately there's an explosion. The gas stations or petrol stations
are being blown up. That will slow down everything in
Kiev. And the second target, I think, will slow down
diplomacy. Now on the program to Ukraine, where a Russian
drone has hit a train carrying hundreds of people. Two
crew were killed and none of the passengers, though, were
harmed. This in the southern region of Odessa. Let's speak
to Emanuel Shaz about all of this. She's a Ukraine
correspondent. She's currently in the northeastern city of Kharkiv. Emanuel,
just tell us then a little bit more about what
happened today. Okay. Well, indeed, this strike against Ukrainian railway,
against the train with passengers, have been widely reported. We've
seen on the images that, you know, the driver of
the train, as well as his assistant, died instantly as
the locomotive of the train crashed. was hit. And, you
know, we have to keep in mind that such attacks
actually happen daily, occur daily against the Ukrainian railway. There's
not only passenger trains, there's also railway stations, trucks, platforms
that are being hit only a few days ago. This
is the only way that... Her voice is so annoying.
I know, I had to cut her off. This is
the only way that politicians visit the little actor. The
last miles are always done by train. So now the
trains are being blowed up. Petrol stations are being blowed
up. And now the latest from Germany... Hundreds of thousands,
if not millions of people left Ukraine and went all
over Europe. And I have to say, my friends in
the Netherlands, they see it as a scourge because they
get housing, they get an allowance. Oh, really? And if
they have a Ukrainian license plate, they can park anywhere
they want, almost like a diplomatic plate. You're kidding. No.
No. What is the point of if they – I
mean, okay, I guess – all right, continue on. So
– So they're in the Netherlands. I mean, they're all
over it. In Germany. Now, the German government has said...
You know, Ukraine needs more men. They've run out of
men. So, yeah, we'll help you get the Ukrainian men
who are in Germany. How about that? So they're going
to do conscription in Germany? That's what they're saying, yeah.
Yeah. Can you believe it? So this is a mess.
You know, go to the demilitarized zone option. Just do
it. But the Europeans, they want this. The British. Somebody
wants it. Well, they want. We have nothing else. They
close down. They've got. OK, Germany is the engine of
the EU. And it was a great system. We get
cheap oil and gas from Russia. We build Mercedes and
Volkswagen and Audis, and we sell them back to the
Russians. and yeah it was called the the euro loop
and there the money was flowing and then of course
you know oh we we got to cut it off
and you've got to stop all this so that and
oh we because of the green new deal we blew
up our nuclear power stations so smart and uh And
all they have is war economy. And the Brits, the
Brits have now said, we're going to call up veterans.
To, you know, to be go for active duty. Well,
I mean, you're talking 60, 65, 70 year old guys.
Yeah, that's going to be a nightmare if they do
that. They don't want that. And so it's no wonder
that we have big moves in in Germany, particularly Germany.
in the Saxon region with the alternative for Deutschland sweeping
the elections. It is a political earthquake. Official preliminary results
are in. A far-right party on the cusp of power
at a state level for the first time in Germany
since the Second World War. And the world is watching.
The numbers in a moment, our correspondent as well first.
The celebrations. Oh! a crushing victory by the alternative for
germany or afd the party's co-leaders alice vidal and tino
coppola cheering on the exit polls in the middle their
lead candidate for the state of saxony unheard ulrich sigmund
the big winner of the night and the official results
the fd more than dublin is last showing with an
historic 43.8 percent the big loses the conservative Christian Democrats
in black nose diving. They play lead role in the
federal government. Their grand coalition partners, the Social Democrats in
red, scraping in ahead of the Greens and left party,
the left-wing populist BSW in orange, just making it into
parliament. So the AFD only just falling short of an
outright majority in Parliament with 39 of the 83 seats.
The CDU gets 15 seats. The SPD, Greens and Left
can count on eight each. BSW making it past the
5% threshold to enter Parliament with five seats. Now, of
course, it's obvious these guys are Nazis, so this is
a big problem. Here's the AFD's state leader, Ulrich Sigmund,
claiming victory. My dear friends, this is a big problem.
is a historic evening. We have made history. We are
going to get our country back and we start with
Saxony-Anhalt. 44.5% And the goal that we had at the
time wasn't just realistic, it was exactly what the people
of Saxony-Anhalt wanted to see. This is going to shake
all of Germany. What became clear in every interview and
here tonight is of course that some people are downcast.
But what we've seen is that most people know it's
not just about Saxony-Anhalt. We're sending a signal for all
of Germany because we found our way back to Germany
and this is a self-confident signal. We're sending out to
the entire country. You know, there's just something about a
German speech. you know that it just it always makes
people kind of you know you know what I mean
it's like no no no no Yeah, exactly. One more
clip. And what about this so-called firewall of opposition to
this radical party? Radical. Yes, exactly. The firewall is the
reason why all the parties, for example, the conservatives, the
social democrats, the greens, the left party, they say they
do not want to end. anything to do with the
AFD, which they consider anti-democratic. Oh dear. And it's coming
to a point where it's becoming difficult in certain situations,
like now in Saxony-Anhalt, but also in other states, especially
in eastern Germany, to find viable majorities that work. without
the AFD so often you see minority governments forming with
external support. But this is also a show of
force for the afd they're they're trying to to show
that uh basically the others can't do without it or
that it has to go ahead and govern alone so
the propaganda in in europe is so strong uh taxi
eric this guy's been driving for me for 25 years
And so whenever we go to Holland, he's always there.
He picks us. He still drives. Picks us up. He
used to pick Christina up from school. I mean, he's
a friend. And he is a very typical middle class
worker in the Netherlands who hates what's happened, hates their
government, hates. He really dislikes the immigration agenda, particularly the
Moroccans, you know, just everything. And he's like, well, you
know, yeah. Isn't it great that those guys won in
Germany that doing so? Yeah, yeah. But, you know, it's
kind of scary because, you know, they they don't they
any rattles off all these talking points that makes them
sound like they're Hitler. You're like, Eric. Have you actually
read any of their party agenda? Well, you know, I
don't know. They they don't want like they only want
white people in school. I said, I don't think that's
exactly what it says. Maybe that's something to do with
what they call reimmigration, like kicking people out that undesirable.
You know, whenever I say Trump is, you know, we
need someone like Trump here. But, you know, that's exactly
what they're getting. Yeah. Yeah. It's really sad. I'm very
concerned for my granddaughter. I really want those kids to
move here. Go to Nashville, I tell them. Go anywhere.
You don't have to be in Texas. Yeah. Nashville's hot
and humid. I guess Texas is hot, too. Yeah, but
Nashville is young. Don't come to Fredericksburg. We're all old
here. There's a lot of... A lot of people from
Hollywood have moved to Nashville or to, what's it, Franklin?
Yeah, that's the rich neighborhood. Really? Why are they moving
there? Are they trying to turn that blue? No. Well,
yeah. Unfortunately, that's probably what would happen because they get
sick of LA and California like me and then do
that, and then they take the same values and voting
methods with them, and then they end up saying kind
of what happened with Texas. That hasn't really happened with
Texas, right? Yeah. I mean, yes, our cities like Austin
and Dallas. But that's what most cities anymore is becoming
more and more blue. Everyone's so concerned about Tallarico Hotel.
First of all, Ken Paxton does not necessarily deserve to
win. The guy is just not right. Yeah. I know
more about him than most people. I just like his
character. I don't like him. And but, you know, Trump
endorsed them. But everyone's still all but Tallarico. We got
to vote for Paxton because Tallarico, first of all, you
know, every state, every country gets the government she deserves.
Yes. And Tallarico would be horrible. But this is like
Beto. Like, no. If he's less than 7% behind Paxton
in the midterms, I will be surprised. But the polling,
oh, the polls, it's neck and neck race. We all
know that. Who knows with the polls that actually speaking
of the midterms, play Elon, vote safe. Elon, vote safe.
One of the things that we are seeing right now
is the rise, and Judd Legum covered this today, of
taxing. the investment of Elon Musk in the midterm elections
and he has said he will spend up to a
hundred million dollars in these midterm elections which by the
way don't even start me about how that should be
illegal even though that is not that's something we'll have
to take on that Citizens United that's with some complications
around that but I'm one of the things that raises
aside from the sheer amount of money that's there that
raises a huge huge huge red flag is the fact
that one of the things he is investing in is
a website that is called vote safe.org and it sounds
fine right right but unlike vote.gov which is the government
system that does not collect our information according to legum
of popular information vote safe.org collects your name your birth
date your home address your email address your cell phone
number your ip address and location unlike google um uh
every link you click and every page you look at
now why should that worry you for a second she
i i left out this this woman is uh her
name is heather cox uh richardson and she's doing this
on youtube and instagram so the irony there about worrying
about data collection she's doing it on two of the
platforms that probably collect the most data Oh, of course
they do. They should worry you partly because of the
whole idea that we are, you know, we are being
packaged to... to advertisers to sell us things. I mean,
it's one of the weird things about the way U.S.
advertising works is that we think we are being sold
things, but in fact we are being packaged and sold
to advertisers. people who want to sell us things. But
with that information, and one of the things that Musk
has really been harvesting since Trump 2.0 is personal information,
we can be targeted pretty cleanly for political information or
political disinformation. Whenever you see something like this, like, you
know, you want to know more about your voting, for
example, or registration or whatever, make really sure that you
are going to official websites and not places like this
that are collecting your information. Right. And I'm still looking
at it and VoteSafe.org. Actually, I kind of like this.
Now, it did not ask me for my phone number.
Well, right. So that's this is just fear mongering of,
you know, there's so many things that she says. And
this is the hypocrisy. It makes me insane. So she
starts by, it should be illegal about him putting up
to $100 million towards midterms. And that – well, that
rule would take out unions. It would take out ActBlue,
one of your favorites. It would take out Soros and
Hoffman and Gates. Mm-hmm. But so it's fine if it's
on their side. But as soon as it's something they
don't agree with, oh, it should be illegal. And then
she's going on like he's hacking the system. You just
went to the site. They apparently by you just going
to the site just now, they have your date of
birth. They have your name, your address. Did you put
any of that in there? No. No, I just put
in my zip code. Is it forcing you? No, zip
code. Put my zip code in. And then it says
that vote.gov or the other one that, oh, it's the
government, so that's the only one you should use. Like
they're not collecting your data and that, oh, that's safe
because it's the government. The other day I was like,
you know, let me check my social security status. Which,
spoiler alert, very disappointing results at the end. But so
you log in. The first thing you've got to do
is, well, I luckily had an account with login.gov. I
guess I set something up a long time ago. So,
okay. So first, it needs my cell phone number. I
have to do the second factor authorization. Okay, here's the
stupid code for my cell phone. That's like, okay, to
log in, now you have to scan this link on
your phone. Okay, scan the QR code. Then it opens
up a... a site and says, all right, get your
driver's license or passport, and then you need to scan
the front of your ID card, the back of your
ID card. Then you have to take a selfie. I'm
not kidding. And then it takes you back to the
site. Then it gives you another code through your phone
that you have to input. And then it takes you
in only to find out That if I retire now,
I'll get $2,700 a month. If I retire at 67,
it'll be $4,200. And if I wait until I'm 70,
when I'm a Walmart greeter, then I'll get something like
$5,700 a month. Which, of course, by the time I'm
70, will be worth five nickels. And I'm like, what
is my government doing? There's like this authentication process was
nuts. Because I'm over 50 now and I need to
start looking at things like this. Welcome to AARP, brother.
Yeah. So at what year, at what age, if you...
Start collecting the $2,700 a month. How many is that?
62? Yeah, 62. And then the 42 is what? 67?
67, yeah. And I thought, because I made a lot
of money back in the day, I thought I would
get a lot more. No. No, it takes an average
over everything that you... I can't remember exactly how it
works, but it takes like an average over what you've
made and what you paid in. It works badly is
what it does. Well, yeah. It doesn't work very well.
It's like SAG. I'm SAG-AFTRA. And they keep sending me
my retirement information. Well, don't log into it because you
never made enough money to retire from SAG after money.
No way. Go away, you.
It's going to be big packets of information. I need
to sag after. The money they're spending on that should
be used elsewhere. Well, I like Fran Drescher. I've always
liked her. I think she's cool. She's not the president
anymore. Oh, really? It's the guy from Stand By Me.
I can't remember his name. The kid? Yeah. Really? The
kid? Yeah. I think so. Oh, they should have had.
Look it up. Ask the book of knowledge. Okay. Book
of knowledge. All right. Who is. What's this? Book of
knowledge. Who is the current president of SAG-AFTRA and what
is he known for? All right. This is a great
book of knowledge question, everybody. scribbling away through the scrolls.
According to the book of knowledge, the current president of
SAG-AFTRA is Sean Astin, elected on September 12, 2025. A
man whose four-decade acting career gave audiences beloved characters from
Mikey Walsh in The Goonies to Samwise Gamgee in The
Lord of the Rings trilogy. He also follows in the
footsteps of his mother, Patty Duke, who held the very
same post 37 years prior. Ah, nepotism. Thus. It has
been written. I just like that the dude from the
Goonies is sending me retirement information. Thanks, Goonies. Thanks, dude.
You must be a guild member. Isn't it like you're
producing? No, I've had very public. Ah, falling out. You're
such a rebel. You're a radical. Yeah, they love to
write about me when I walked out of the PGA
Awards and discuss as everybody was getting up there, just
giving their political speeches. And I posted about it as
I got up in the middle and left and then
posted that I had enough. You called them out on
X. Yes. Well, it was still Twitter at the time.
You're such a rebel, you. I'm calling you out, you
political nutjobs. I love it. Yeah, I had a lot
of – and if you will notice, my last production
credits, they had to do this stupid – the PGA,
they do this stupid – asterisks next to all the
producer's name. And that just means that you no longer,
you don't pay your dues. They were no, that they
were qualified by the PGA, that the PGA is, um,
And it's official or whatever, so Academy nominations or anything
to do with the PGA, you have to get the
asterisk to show that some board said, yeah, he was
a producer. And I fought them a few times. It's
so aggravating and stupid. It's just their little fiefdom of
control. Yeah. Dana Brunette, you're a very interesting guy, and
I really appreciate you coming on. But you can't go
anywhere because we have to do the thing you created
yourself. It is the tip of the day. Great advice
for you and me. Just the tip with JCB. And
sometimes... All right. Tip of the day. You already gave
away your Grok bot, which I think I gave you
that. Didn't I give you that tip or are you
already using it? No, I was – well, you gave
me the tip to use it for the clips. But
my tip for that was that people that are just
using ChatGPT or Cloud should start to explore Dropbox because
it's user-friendly. Get back to the mic. Get closer to
the mic. Oh, sorry. Yeah. Pulling away. Sorry, I'm an
amateur. The other I have is – is Harbor Freight,
which I used to call Horrible Freight because it was
all very cheap tools. But over the years, and particularly
as I've been working on the ranch, I've started to
realize the benefits of it. So like if you've got
to pull an engine or – You're dropping a transmission.
You can get an engine crane or a transmission jack.
It's good for things like that you're not like a
shop where you're going to be doing stuff all the
time. But if you're in the middle of a project,
you need to get a tool that you're going to
use once or twice, then… It's a great place to
get cheap things, unlike Timu, which sends you stuff that
just falls apart. you can actually see it there in
the store. And you kind of browse around. They got
a lot of great stuff. And I feel like I'm
doing a commercial for them. No, that's what tip of
the day is. Yeah. Now I'm realizing that, yeah. But
the other is what I have a whole – tool
chest now full of uh icon tools which is their
their brand of tool they have a few different brands
that they make and they're all made pretty much the
same place i'm sure they're all in china but icon
tools they are guaranteed for life like remember sears with
craftsmen sure you used to be able so icon tools
is very similar to that so if the tool breaks
or something malfunctions on it you just take it back
into the counter you give it to them and they
they replace it and give you give you a new
one i've done it twice with um with hole punches
chisels and hole punches where i'm I'm using around the
ranch, like trying to change teeth on the bucket of
an excavator and hammering on it and broke the punch
trying to get the pin out for the tooth. And
I've done it two different times. The whole set is
$80 set. I just take it back in there, hand
it to them. They give me a new set and
walk back out. So that's my tip of the day
as icon tools at Harbor Freight. Wow. And so what
kind of horses do you have that you need to
have buckets and stuff like that? What is going on
at that ranch of yours? No, a bucket on an
excavator. Right. What are you excavating? I have a lot
of heavy equipment. I built this whole ranch. A lot
of people don't realize that, but it was 40 acres
of raw land. There was nothing here. And I had
no idea what I was doing when I got here,
but it was like a big sandbox for me. And
heavy equipment started arriving and... I just started to learn
to use it. And then some of that I own,
I have to learn to maintain it. All right, everybody.
Harborfreight.com and Icon Tools is their top. That's your tip
of the day. Creative files for you and me. Just
a tip with JCB. And sometimes Adam. Created by Dana
Burnetti. I didn't think we were really going to do
tips of the day. So I kind of winged that
one. How could you not think I would throw that
at you? Of course. Of course. Hey, I got a
new segment. Oh, a new segment. Oh, we need another
Created by Dana Burnetti segment. Okay. So this is show
1903? Yes, it is. What happened in 1903? You should
know this. Uh... Was that the first Bank of America?
What? 1903. Hold on. I'm thinking. I'm not looking it
up. I'm trying. I think I should. There's something financial
that sticks in my mind about 1903. Either that or
it was the great fire of San Francisco. Did those
happen in 1903? I'm just talking out of my butt.
I have no idea. Hey, what was the most significant
historical event in 1903? Man, this book of knowledge is
getting a workout today. Okay, book of knowledge. What was
the most significant event of 1903? Well, this should be
interesting. Yeah, I have no idea what it's going to
say. Ask the book. According to the Book of Knowledge,
the most significant event of 1993 was the first successful
powered airplane flight by Orville and Wilbur Wright on December
17th at Kitty Hawk, North Carolina, forever transforming human civilization.
And the nature of war, commerce, and exploration. Thank you,
Book of Nihilism. What was that last bit? It has
been written. Forever transforming human civilization and the nature of
war, commerce, and exploration. Yes, I should have known that.
I should have known that. Okay. But I think there
should be a historical trivia bit on each one of
the shows. You can at least do it until show
2027. Okay. Dana, would you come on again in a
few weeks? Sure. Did you have a good time? As
long as everybody else likes it and long as it
doesn't the numbers don't drop off. Oh, no, no the
numbers the numbers No in the in the tank. What
is it troll count? It's hurt. Oh, I didn't do
a troll count. You're right Hold on a second. Joe
count Oh Whoa, yeah, 1,074. We broke a grand thanks
to Dana Brunetti. You're well-trained. We were in the 8,900,
so you've definitely brought it back. Very good. Dana, I
really appreciate it. It was fun talking with you. I
know we talked a lot about you in the beginning.
So next time you come on, we'll dive more into
the news. But you have a great perspective. You also
have great stories. I really like that. It's really good.
Thanks. And I'll call you later. I'll call you later
tonight and we'll catch up. All right. Sounds good. What,
did I just shut down the mic or just leave
it going? Yeah, you know, you just shut it down.
You go outside. You go play with the horses and
say hi to your wife for me. We love her.
And I don't play with the horses, but I'll go
say hi to my wife. Maybe play with her. Yeah.
All right. There it is. Tina says hi. Thank you
very much, brother. Hi, Tina. OK, take care, Dana. All
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oh hold on a second dana i'm sorry you're right
he just texted me he said we forgot the isos
and you did all that work on him Okay. Hold
on a second. Let me see. I think I don't...
Oh, man. Okay. Am I still here? Yeah, you're here.
You're here. Do you hear me? Yeah, I went and
took a leak and I'm like, oh, crap, I forgot
the ISOs. Okay, here's the... I have your four ISOs
ready and I will start and we will... The good
work on these, these are all within the time limits.
Here we go. It's the young kid. It's the guy
with the beard and the fabulous black eyes. Okay. I
couldn't understand what they were saying. Okay. That's no. That's
no. He would not interact with us. Okay. Possible. Possible.
Let's see if you got anything better. Is this not
crazy? This is crazy. Yeah, I like that one. And
your last one here. Well, I have to sit with
that for just a second. I like this one. I
think this is your best one. Is this not crazy?
This is crazy. I think that's the best one. Number
39. All right. perfect thank you for coming back i'm
back out later guys bye he knows how the show
works that's for sure So we had the MTV Chronicles
for episode 1902, and the artwork I think was better
than the show itself. People just love what William St.
James did. There were a couple other – like only
one or two entries, and I also – I'm always
looking for – for entries for the bat signal so
you can always put stuff in early But this, I
mean, this almost went viral with my hair all crazy
and no agenda tangled up in the hair. And then
Adam's MTV Chronicles. It was even a little like headbangers
ball, like metal pin that I've got, episode number 1902.
Dynamite work, William. Thank you so much. I don't think...
I don't even think William is willing. Let me see.
Is that a first time for William? I'm not sure
if he's done other stuff. Let me see. Oh, yeah.
No agenda. Good or podcast. I don't know. I think
that was. I don't know if we if that one.
No, no. He's only done one other piece. So that
was fantastic. Really, really cool. Time, talent, treasure. We always
thank everybody who supports us with $50 or more. And
this is for two shows, as promised. So there's... a
little more than uh than typical and we start off
with 362 dollars from baron tommy hawk of the heartland
from iowa city and he actually sent this on a
card a birthday card for me to our p.o box
here in fredericksburg 1849 fredericksburg texas 78624 but luckily the
checklist was made out to no agenda, so I can
just send it off to Jay and everything will be
okay. He says, ITM, Adam, while we all continue to
mourn the passing of JCD and celebrate the incredible legacy
of no agenda, you continue building and evolving. Happy birthday.
Both. Happy birthday. You continue to building and evolving both
with the curry and friends version of no agenda and
the growth of we get to do this. W.G.T.D.T. Dot
com. Another great product. Highly recommended. I'm honored to become
one of the Order of the Ants, a member, I
guess, and continue supporting the best podcast in the universe,
Baron Tommy Hawk. Of the Heartland. Thank you very much,
brother. Appreciate that. Anonymous comes in from Parts Unknown, $350.93,
which is probably, I'm just going to guess, $333.33. It
says, Carlos Alcatraz. Al-Qa'araz lost to the American at 3.33
a.m. So the obligatory JCD coming in. Keep my donation
anonymous, but Adam, MQ-9 losses are at 70%. We are
pulling MQ-1 birds out of mothballs. I'm pretty sure this
has to do with Iran. The cost is $1.5 million
for an MQ-1, $14 million for an MQ-9. These are
the drones. The government figured out we can identify SAM
sites for cheaper. We blew $6 million. 70% of the
Reapers to identify the SAM as surface air missiles. Guess
we're getting smarter after 70% of 14 million. There's a
real boots on the ground and a – did he
ask for a JCD Hot Pockets? I think so. And,
of course, a donation. Hot Pockets. Thank you very much,
Anonymous. We respect that. Randy Filkins, 34375, please add me
to the order of the ants as I continue to
use John's methods to rid my kitchen of ants every
spring and fall. Adam Banks. I have no parts. I
don't have any parts unknown. 34375. ITM Adam, thank you
to you and John for all the years of great
no agenda shows. I've been listening since episode 151 where
you had just read Sarah Palin's new book. The people
around – I remember at the airport I was carrying
it. The people around you got all bent out of
shape at the mere mention. of you taking the time
to read about someone instead of parroting the media's narrative
i knew this was the show for me sadly this
is only my second donation john's passing struck a chord
not only because of the years of enjoyment hearing him
on the show but he passed on july 20th exactly
one year after i lost someone very close to me
thank you for staying strong and moving forward no jingles
no karma All right. Let me make sure I got
everything set up here. Jamie Forsythe, 34375, in honor of
John. No jingles, no requests, no long note. Thank you.
Happily joining the colony of the ants of no agenda.
Cheers from Jamie. Megan Klein, 343.75, in honor of JCD,
you are missed. A pledge to keep fighting the good
fight in his memory against those six-legged bastards. Blessings to
the entire NA sphere, especially to Korean Dvorak families. Thomas
Blowers, um... 3.43.75. Note at notes at noagenda.com. Yeah, that
didn't arrive because it's notes at noagendashow.net. So send it.
I'll gladly read it on 1904. Tim Erlandson. 343 75
that's these are all 333.33 plus fees and it's appreciated
in the morning adam i am still saddened by the
loss of jcd truly sorry for your loss when i
heard you mention the asus ascent bx10 spark workstation another
producer was sending you yes the show is now partially
produced by it i figured it was time to donate
again i've been waiting to claim my night Hood accounting
attached. Yes, you're there. With an executive producer donation. So
here's my $333.33 for the order of the ant donation.
Back to the ACES. I've been using one of these
for about six months. I was considering sending my first
one back because of the lackluster performance I was getting.
I'm glad I didn't. These machines are great for small
AI clusters. I now have several in my stack. Ooh.
I'd love to share some tips and tricks with you,
but if you run into trouble with yours, contact information
included below my daily driver model is quen3.627b-a3b-nvfp4. That's exactly
the one I happen to be
running. Take a look at it on nvidia spark arena.com
slash leaderboard. I'm getting around 110 tokens per second TG
on mine and it's a very capable model indeed. The
trick to get any model to perform well is to
build and use a harness and deterministic gateways. I built
a custom harness for Hermes Or as we say in
the fashion world, Hermes. Without those, the smaller models are
incapable of running long sessions to handle complex tasks. Even
the larger models don't work well without them. From a
brother in Christ, God bless. And I would like my
knight, God bless you to you. I would like my
knight name to be Sir Dude Name Ben Name Tim
of the Inland Northwest. No jingles, no karma. Dr. Don
and Dame Audra come in with 333.88 from Cupertino, California.
Dear Adam, Dana, and Dvorak back office, for the last
few years, I've resorted to handing John envelopes of cash
at meetups hosted by Sir Recalcitrant Crazy Steve, but could
miss the opportunity to join the Order of the Ants
and be an executive producer on an episode with Dana
Burnetti, the associate executive producer who was also co-hosting. Yes,
indeed. Dana, we all missed you at the last meetup
in honor of John at Pizzeria Violetta. Ah, this is,
now I know who they are. I was going to
give you one of the infamous Steve Jobs dollar coins,
but gave it to Mimi because she assured me she'd
get it to you. Adam, send me your PO Box
address. I'll ship one off to you as well. 1849
Fredericksburg, Texas. Thank you, Adam, for continuing the best podcast
in the universe. Dame Audra and I particularly enjoyed the
episode with J. Cal. Who knew the dweeb from Tech
TV would turn out to be such a great co-host?
Yes, he's coming back on the 20th and the 27th.
We've continued to pray for you and your family. Thank
you. Congratulations, Grandpop, the Horowitz and Dvorak families, and the
entire menagerie of the No Agenda producers impacted by the
loss of the great GACD. I've attached a rare photo
of John presenting me with a PhD in media deconstruction
back in 2024. It's always fun to see how people
react when I, a blind guy, introduce myself as a
doctor. it always confuses and scares the hell out of
them. Thank you for your courage. Kindest regards, Dr. Don
and Dame Audra. And he, uh, they want, uh, let's
see. Uh... jingles jcd no sweat off my balls r2d2
karma and you've got prayers it's no sweat off my
balls You've got Karma. You've got prayers. And coming in
with 33333, it is the Grand Duke himself, Grand Duke
Sir Nussbaum. Thank you very much, and good to hear
from you. Sir Justin Karsk of Jobber's Canyon, 33333. I
love that Rob signs off with, Long live JCD. Proud
to be a member of the Order of the Ant.
No jingles, no karma, but Lord knows I could use
a double tap prayers if you got it. Sir Justin
Karsk of Jobber's Canyon. He's manimal in the chats. Okay,
so yeah, we could do two of those. You've got
prayers. You've got prayers. You've got prayers. Sir Luca comes
in from Savosa. Oh, that's Switzerland. Yes, 333.33. After hiding
my castrating baronet status for three years because I was
ashamed of it. I finally reached baron status. I would
like to claim the territory of Switzerland as my protectorate,
if available. I believe it is. I promise I won't
let Switzerland fall into the diabolic, commie, Nazi, dark powers
of the European Soviet Union that surrounds us. That sounds
like a good deal. I would like to be known
as Baron Trump. which will surely piss off all the
libtards who will hear my name. This donation is for
my 56th birthday on September 11th. Miss you, JCD, and
thank you, Adam, for keeping the show going, Sir Luca.
Dame Becky, Katy, Texas, 33333. And let me see. Her
note here, she sent in a paper note in the
morning and closed the donation in honor of my smoking
out husband, Sir Mike, as we celebrate our 54th wedding
anniversary on September 17th. And they never had a fight.
I can't think of a better gift than the order
of the ant. We can't stand those six-legged bastards, especially
the fire ants here in Southeast Texas. Happy belated birthday,
Adam. We sure miss JCD. No jingles, no karma. Becky
Kenny, Baroness of the Great Katy Prairie in Katy, Texas.
Then we have, let me see, Sir 10 CFR 50B,
Baronet of the Palouse from Iowa. And also sends a
note with 333 in the morning, Adam and Dvorak clan.
It pains me to think that I have delayed donating
for so long as others have stated. I was shocked
at how John's passing affected me. Took me almost three
weeks to finish listening to the first tribute show due
to the sorrow I felt. Hope you all find a
way to continue the show. That said, I'm getting back
on the path to my barren title with this Order
of the Ant donation. I request the nightlist to be
updated to show my relocation from Oregon to northern Idaho
and dropping of my current title, Baronet of the Willamette
Valley, to the new title. Regards, Stu, Sir 10 CFR
50B, Baronet of the Palouse. I should know what 10
CFR 50B means, I'm sure. Matthew Farrell, Leland, North Carolina,
33333. John Whidden from Kodiak, Alaska. 275 86 happy blade
birthday to adam 62 plus 200 for the best podcast
in the universe and fees listening from kodiak island home
of the kodiak bear and the u.s coast guard men
and women who protect the last frontier john whidden retired
helicopter pilot thank you Oh, there's Rob, the constitutional lawyer.
Hello, Rob from Spring Branch, Texas. $260.33. Dear Adam et
al., please accept today's switcheroo donation of $260.33, which should
be credited to my wife of 33 years, Maggie Cardy.
This will bring her to damehood, accounting below. We trust
you, Rob. She doesn't know about any of this. Uh-oh.
Oh, man, how about that? Uh... So for now, please
dub her Dame Maggie, Secret Dame of the Lake. For
the roundtable, please provide Domino's Margarita Pizza and Dom Perignon
of any vintage. Ah, this is where we need JCD.
I would say 1996 is a good year. For jingles,
please play JCD's No Sweat Off My Balls. Hey, that's
the second one today. And wash your hands, both of
which I will send to Adam under separate cover since
the latter is a rare jingle indeed. To date, I've
made my wife an associate executive producer, an executive producer,
and now a no-agenda dame. Your move, Brunetti. It's No
Sweat Off My Balls. Wash your hands more often than
you ever dreamed possible. What is this? Wash your hands.
Wash, wash, wash, wash, wash your hands. That was the
end of show mix of it. All right. He actually
sent me, he did send me those jingles. I thought
I had them. But he sent them to me as
a windmail.dat. Have you ever heard that? Have you ever
had that happen? Thank you, Microsoft Outlook. Thank you, Rob.
And congratulations, Maggie. Manuka Gold, Hudson, Florida, $250. ITM from
ManukaGold.com. Thank you, Adam. Love the print story on Thursday.
We, too, have been to Paisley Park. Huh. Definitely worth
the drive from Florida. And happy autumn to our No
Agenda family. Just a reminder that nothing levels up warm,
spicy drinks better than our Be Well Manuka Honey Blend
with ginger, turmeric, and lemongrass. Don't forget to use code
ADAM20 at checkout. Sklazen Hot Sauce, Lancaster, South Carolina, 212
ITM. Here's the sales so far from the in memory
of JCD bottles as promised. Wow, that's great. Plus a
few bucks to get my note read. We're overwhelmed by
the support we received from No Agenda Nation and wanted
to update that only 13 bottles remain from this special
offering at www.sclazin.com. I N dot com slash JCD for
those and other fun little packaging options. Additionally, I'll take
another one of those prayer jingles. If you can spare
it. Well, of course we can spare that. We always
have that ready for you. You've got it. Prayers. Also,
I forgot to thank Small Batch Steve from smallbatchsteve.com. He
sent a whole bunch of his taco seasoning. He has
a whole bunch of interesting seasoning options. And we had
it last night on our taco meet, an outstanding product.
It's smallbatchsteve.com. Oh, this is the Kalapuya meetup. Kalapuya in
Albany, Oregon. $205. I don't have a note, nor do
I seem to have a meetup report from y'all, but
thank you. Robert Anderson, Austin, Texas, $200. No note. And
there's Linda Lupatkin. from Castle Rock, Colorado with $200. She
wants jobs, Karma, and says, hey, you know, AI can
write your resume. The problem is, It can write everyone
else's too. Linda helps professionals and executives figure out what
makes them different, what makes them valuable, and turns that
value into a resume that gets results. You need to
go to ImageMakersInc.com. That's ImageMakersInc with a K. And Linda
Liu, Duchess of Jobs and writer of winning resumes, because
your resume should do more than just look good. jobs
jobs jobs and jobs let's vote for jobs karma Up
next, we have Christopher Coates.
E-H-O-A-T, Coat, I believe, from Mansfield, Texas, 200. Please de-douche
me. That was not a de-douching. Hold on. Where's my
de-douche? You've been de-douched. Everyone should play more tennis. That's
the note. Please play They're Eating the Dogs. They're eating
the dogs. There you go. Uh, Scotty K, Lakeshore, Minnesota,
200. In the morning till you get more nation. This
is Scotty K, your AI whisperer. Ah, yes. I wanted
to take a minute to tell you about my incredible
AI project. This is a value for value project. So
listen up. You know, AI are like wild horses, beautiful,
intelligent, but hard to control. You won't just hop on
one without a bridle, a harness, or at least a
rope. Bot Commander is an AI harness. It's designed to
keep your AI in check. Bot Commander is the world's
first AI harness to adopt the value for value model.
It's an extensive all-in-one business tool and it's free. You
can save hundreds by replacing all kinds of software subscriptions.
Bot Commander, get it free today at botcom.ai, B-O-T-C-O-M.A-I. That's
botcom.ai with a B from boy. Sure, I could make
more money as a butcher, but where's the fun in
that? And remember, don't you eat the yellow snow. P.S.
Loving the tunes, Adam. Got to feel good to get
back in the saddle, huh? It does kind of. Yes.
I love that he's doing software as value for value.
So check it out. And if you get any value
out of it, I should probably check it out myself.
I use harnesses. I'd like to see how his harness
works. Show me your harness. Mary from us as Candido
that by the way is our wraps up our executive
and associate executive producers for episode 1903 as always you
get credits for these these are real credits $200 or
more is an associate executive producer 300 or more is
an executive producer these are real Hollywood credits just like
the one that Dana Brunetti has you can go to
imdb.com you'll see him in the next episode. there and
you can add your name and thank you for supporting
the show our formula is this we go out we
hit people in the mouth - What else? Shut up!
Shut up. Now the rest of the Value for Value
supporters, $50 and above. Mary from Escondido, California, 11, 111
and 88. Nice number. Thank you. Christopher Ebert, Spartanburg, South
Carolina, 105, 35. Ryan Tierney from Stephen City, Virginia, 88,
88. Clearly for JCD. Dame Teresa Martine from California. Camarillo,
California, $88.88. Sir Kevin McLaughlin, the Archduke of Luna, lover
of American boobs from Concord, North Carolina, $80.08. Put it
in the calculator. You'll get it. Thank you very much,
Archduke. Girage. uh sir sir juraj i think from czechoslovakia
also with the boob donation uh itm birthday present for
myself september 8th thanks for the great work sir juraj
indeed and there's sir kevin mclaughlin again oh of course
for two shows uh eighty dollars and eight cents once
again the archduke of luna lover of america and boobs
and he came in a third time Wow, thank you,
Archduke. Joseph Stegman, Thousand Oaks, California, with a boob donation.
There's Dame Reader from Sparks, Nevada, with $68.33. She says,
thank you for your courage. Colin Schultz, Willow Spring, North
Carolina, $66.40. And he says, listen to basic instructions before
leaving Earth. A value for value Bible study podcast. I
S B I B L E basic instructions before leaving
earth. I shall check it out. Colin, Steven Shoemake, Xenia,
Ohio, 6480. Lester Kowski comes in twice from Kingman, Arizona
with a small boob, $60 and six cents. Christopher Dexter,
six, five, six, seven, eight. Brittany Miller, Trinidad, Colorado, 52.72.
Luke Minnell from Los Angeles, California, 52.72. Josiah Thomas, Ankeny,
Iowa, 51. Bad Idea Supply comes in with double nickels
and 50 cents, so it's not on the dime. And
here's the 50s. Gretchen Angel, Monrovia, California. Edward Mazarek, Edward
Mazarek from Memphis, Tennessee. ray from spokane washington roderick brown
from mermaid prince edward island in canada Stephen Shoemake again
from Zeni, Ohio, with 50. Tim DelVecchio in Blandon, Pennsylvania.
Gary Mao from Woodland Hills, California. Dane Patricia Worthington from
Miami. Brandon Savoie from Port Orchard, Washington. And winding up
our 50s, Jason Deluzio, Miami Beach, Florida. Thank you all
so much. This really helps the Curry and Dvorak families
continue the journey. the show. It is highly appreciated. Just
love the fact that you continue to support everything. Thank
you so much. You can go to noagendedonations.com. That's where
you can support the show with any type of donation,
any amount. There's multiple ways to do it. I think
Stripe even does Venmo maybe, and you can do Apple
Pay, and Lord knows what you can do, and you
can set up a recurring donation, which means just like
some of the of the Archduke of Luna people who
do the same donation every single show. You can do
it whenever you want, any amount, any frequency. Go to
noagenthedonations.com. Thank you for your courage and support. And the
birthday, September 8th, was Sir Juraj from Czechoslovakia. Dame Alison
House of Ostrich and Sir Tony of Dimples wished their
son, Bumi, a happy birthday. Turned 6 on September 10th.
Sir Luca turned 56 on September 11th. And Sir Doherty
says happy birthday to Sir Not Jake. It was his
birthday on September 13th. That is today. Happy birthday from...
everybody here the best podcast in the universe Night's changing
don't want to be in douchebag. And there is that
upgrade, the dreaded upgrade to the name that the libtards
will hate. Sir Luca supported the show with an additional
$1,000 and we can therefore call him Baron Trump. He
moved up from baronet status. Thank you very much, good
sir and good baron. And now, let me see, where
did I put these things? I thought I put them
over here where'd they go where did my order of
the ant go I thought well this is odd oh
I know what I did I put that on the
mobile rig order of the ant Yeah, this should do
it. Get ready, we got new people entering the Order
of the Ants! 33.33 Order of the Ant gets you
into the Order of the Ant I have seen the
packaging by the way, had a conversation with Jay in
the back office you get a certificate with your Order
of the Ant pin if you haven't seen them, they
were in the newsletter I think she may have put
them on the website noagendarings.com it's a beautiful looking pin
and And the certificate includes my and JCD's signature. That
would be the last time you can ever get a
certificate with JCD's signature on it. We thought about it.
We said, yeah, it absolutely belongs on there. So congratulations.
Welcome to the order of the Aunt Baron Tommy Hawk
of the Heartland Anonymous. Randy, by the way, Anonymous, we'll
send it to you. Don't worry. Randy Filkins, Adam Banks,
Jamie Forsyth, Megan Klein, Thomas Blowers, Tim Erlinson, Dr. Don,
Archduke Nussbaum, Sir Justin Karsk of Jobbers Canyon, Sir Lucas,
Sir Mike, Sir 10 CFR 50B, Baronet of the Palouse,
and Matthew Farrell. All of you are now members of
the... Order of the End. Congratulations. Order of the End.
And thank you. Again, noagendarings.com is where you can see
that beautiful pin to become a member of the Order
of the Ant. And we do have one knight and
one dame, so I'll grab the blade here. There's just
one blade these days. Maggie Cardy! Come on, girl. Get
up on that podium. And Tim Erlinson. Both of you
now become knight and dame of the No Agenda Roundtable.
I am very proud to pronounce the KV as Dame
Maggie, Secret Dame of the Lake. And Tim Erlinson becomes
Sir Dude Name Ben Name Tim of the Inland Northwest.
For you at the Roundtable, we have hookers and blows.
Rent Boys and Chardonnay, Domino's Margarita Pizza, and Dom Perignon
from 1996. Along with that, we've got some cool goodies,
Redheads and Rhymes, beers and blunts, cow grills and coffin
varners, vodka and vanilla, bong hits and bourbon, sparkling cider
and escorts, ginger ale and gerbils, breast milk and pavlo
men. Of course, as always at the round table, we've
got your mutton and we've got your mead. right here
and congratulations go to no agenda rings.com make sure that
we get your ring size and address to send that
off to and you can display that at the next
meetup or just around the office at the water cooler
it could be very fun thank you again for supporting
the no agenda show no agenda donation.com And we only
got one meetup report that I could find. It is
from Fort Wayne. Adam and John, rest in peace. This
is Fort Wayne. We had a shorter crew of only
four today, but it was a great turnout, and a
few of them couldn't make it. Here we go. Hey,
guys. Jared from Fort Wayne. Hey, it's Shelly. Thank you
for your courage. It's Michelle. And I suggest for the
round table that as long as we've had dinner with
someone at a meetup, that qualifies as having dinner at
someone's house and being your friend. So we have a
lot of friends
Anyway. In the morning! In the morning. In the morning.
RIP, JCD. See you next month. Adios. All right, boys
and girls from Fort Wayne. I presume that's Fort Wayne,
New Jersey. The Fountains of Wayne. As a meetup taking
place today, let's see, it's underway as we speak. No,
it's probably almost over. This was the Bromley, excuse me,
Bromley-Kent UK meetup. That took place in Gitmo East. It's
the you sound like you're from London meetup. And that
was the cock and the commoner who organized that. I'm
sure they'll send a great meetup report. Tuesday, we have
the No Agenda Scottsdale Round 2 meetup, 6 o'clock at
Loco Patron Brewery in Scottsdale, Arizona. Thursday, next show day,
the Las Vegas FEMA Region 9 meetup at 6 o'clock,
Nevada Brew Works in Las Vegas, Nevada. And let's see,
also on Thursday, Edge Tavern. That's the Charlotte Thursday, Thursday
month. meet up seven o'clock at uh in charlotte north
carolina coming up in the month of december The 18th,
Central Ohio, Tbilisi, Georgia. I'm looking for meetup reports, people,
please. And make sure that you also get your servers
in there. It's always so much fun and promote the
establishment. On the 19th, King George, Virginia, Petaluma, California, and
Wilmington, California. On the 24th, Alpharetta, Georgia, and Anchorage, Alaska,
and the 27th. 7th, Longview, Texas. Feeling a dirty jersey
whore will be a part of that. October looks pretty
full. November is filling up. Go to noagentameetups.com. This is
where you can find the meetups to hang out with
people that you might not meet at your local bar,
but you will find them at a noagentameetup. These people
will bring you connection. This always results in protection. and
the people you meet there will be your first responders
in any emergency. We've had people with lifelong friendships, people
got married, we've seen kids come out of this, all
kinds of things happening in No Agenda Meetup. Go to
noagendameetups.com if you can't find one yourself, start one, you'll
find out how easy it is. Sometimes you want to
go hang out with all the nights and days. ♪
You won't be ♪ ♪ Triggered or held to blame
♪ ♪ Everybody feels the same ♪ like a party.
I have to say, doing the donations by myself was
probably the hardest part of the show, not having John
here. Something about just doing it together that was special.
♪ So thank you all very much for supporting us
with your value in return for the value that you
received here on the No Agenda show. Looking forward to
Thursday's episode. I think we'll have Sir Ducifer back for
Thursday. Looking forward to hanging out with him again. Up
next on the No Agenda stream... You know, I don't
know what's up next on the No Agenda stream. Oh,
yes, I do. Behind the schemes. There you go. In
the new Sistine Chapel. Well, that's not heretical. Okay. Look
forward to that. Thank you all for listening live on
your modern podcast. That's what you can get at... podcastapps.com.
Thank you for supporting us. And I look forward to
Thursday's show. Until then, coming to you from the heart
of the Texas Hill Country, where we've got wineries all
over the place here in Fredericksburg, Texas. In the morning,
everybody, I'm Adam Curry. Remember us at noagentedonations.com until Thursday.
Adios, mofos. hooey, hooey, and such. And thank you, Just
Baker, for yet another end of show mix. Hmm. Hormuz
Strait. Or who's freight? Or you wait. The Nuggets ...
A door you don't take Two miles of water Teaching
the planet to wait A fifth of the freight In
the throat they can break War moves late Then the
war moves the straight More news late From a mouth
on the take Open on the chyron Closed on the
wake Oh, who's freight? Get a nigga for an escort
date Nah, escort the freight Then report it late Iran
say the gates stay locked As a fate state Say
they ran four crews Through the strait Saying while the
two sermons in the tanker that ain't Pinging the map,
that's a ghost for Who's Freight? Call it Hormuz Freight
Like the name is a weight Like saying it straight
Make the barrels behave It don't, it's a door It's
a weight, it's a raid You pay at the pump
for a war Who's Freight? Hormuz Freight Who's Freight? More
news late Are you waiting? War moves late Who's the
gay? Who owns the fray? Far more. Outro Music ♪♪♪
Back in the way Back in the way beat so
Horm is straight Plan B was a pipe so the
door couldn't break East West Harlem but the water won't
take Abcay to that waits to beat the straight. When
the straight won't wake, then the bop, See birth I
can't take What the gulf used to pour through the
straight in the day Bypassed another door More news late
Both throats in the brake Babs in the mouth Don't
confuse Oh, harm is straight. More news late. in the
white farm road fill up eating with the fairway War
moves late For who's free? You wait More crude way
Who closed the gate? For a cruise way For a
cruise way ♪ So exhausted ♪ ♪ I'm straight, it's
a weight ♪ Nobody strayed. You keep saying I can't
Let's pass if the line can't carry the weight, it
carry the weight
dies at the gate. Oh, I'm a stray. Oh, I'm
a stray. Oh, who's fray? Oh, you's lay. Oh, you's
lay. Oh, you's way. Oh, you's lay. Who closed the
gate? Dvorak. slash NA crazy this is crazy