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the morning jay cow In the morning to you, Adam.
In the morning, brother. Thank you for coming back on
the show. Of course. My pleasure. Dana did a solid
job last time. I like Dana. Well, we actually now
have a chat group together, which is kind of extremely
heterosexual. Three 60 year old men talking about previous victories
and future conquests. Wait a minute. You're not. How old
are you, Jacob? 55, 55. Okay. Yeah, he's 53. So.
Oh, okay. I'm the elder of the group. There you
go. I'm the elder. Man, we got a lot to
talk about, but what I like so much this morning,
first of all, I'm like, J. Cal's going to be
here. I don't have to worry about it. And then
I got a text, I'm sorry, an app, as they
call it in Europe. I got an app, a WhatsApp.
I got an app. And I'm like, what time? What
time? Well, you know what happened was you sent the
calendar invite and had 11. And I was like, oh,
he doesn't know how to use the calendar. No, no,
11 – oh yeah you're right yes so i was
like did he change the time let me just make
sure i get this i'm a moron you know what
i got i got i'm gonna give this all to
my muse robot and make the muse robot do it
all yes which we'll talk about but so jacal sends
me a link he's like hey look at this And
we were both thinking the same thing at the same
time. Top of the news in the United Kingdom at
what is it? Fair Ford Royal Air Force Base. There
was a bomb – I mean, I'm not even sure
if it's definitely a bomb – if there were bombs
in the vans that were parked outside. This is like
the weirdest – bombing very unclear yeah i mean you
you park three vans in a village where 800 people
live and then think no one's gonna find that suspicious
and so the vans are supposedly packed with explosives so
they evacuate the and i'm seeing this on the quad
screen i'm seeing the bbc and like and it's still
on Swift arrests of suspects in RAF Fanford incident. This
is where the U.S. B-2 bombers are stationed in the
U.K. And as predicted right away, of course, it can
only be two things. It can either be Iran. It
can be Russia. Blah! probably Russia. The BBC security correspondent
Frank Gardner has the latest. What I can tell you
is that this was not intelligence-led. So counter-terrorism police, rather
than say MI5 or GCHQ are the lead in this.
Britain's counter-terrorism police are the lead on this. The two
obvious sort of suspects, but I think we've got to
keep an open mind on this until we know more,
are Russia and Iran. Why? Because of the context. That's
not to say it is them. But if you look
at the context, there have been a number of instances
of so-called hybrid warfare around Europe this summer. This year,
in fact, going back several months, arson at warehouses, the
discovery of three explosive drones at Leipzig Halla Airport that's
used as a cargo hub for resupplying Ukraine, cyber attacks,
suspicious drones over sensitive installations, nuclear bases, and so on.
You know, and I realized... That this is what Mark
Ritter had been talking about for two years. Hybrid warfare,
hybrid warfare. And so this seems like such a –
I thought the guy – well, maybe he probably still
is working for us. But he's like the whisperer. Like,
oh, it's coming. Hybrid warfare, hybrid warfare. So all these
arson attacks, everything is all Russia. Or is it? And
the Kremlin attitude, the Moscow's attitude is, look, NATO and
Britain especially... are essentially waging an indirect war with us
via Ukraine. So if they're supplying missiles that are hitting
us, why shouldn't they feel a bit of pain? And
the Russians have pretty much said, you know, this is
not going to be cost-free for you guys, but they're
not revealing what form that sort of retribution is going
to take. It may not be them. Let's not forget
that these bases are being used by the U.S. as
staging posts in their war with Iran. But I think,
I mean, Iran is currently on a sort of is
pushing for a peace deal very much on its terms,
terms that are unacceptable to President Trump. But I think
it would be a miscalculation by the IRGC if this
was... them trying to do this. One thing I'm pretty
sure is that if it's either Iran or Russia, they
will have used proxies to do this. I very much
doubt, and I could be proved wrong later today, but
I very much doubt that the people arrested will be
Russians or Iranians. So the guys who did it, okay
they're not russians or iranians but no they're proxies they
have the proxies of course well it's so cynical there's
they there's a report five middle eastern looking young man
running through the trees uh this is not uh one
person right it's not like a lone wolf situation it's
a And second, third generation Muslims who have been radicalized
in the UK could have been flipped, I guess, by
Iranians. I doubt Russians, though. They can never say this.
They can never say it. You can't say that. You
know, I was talking to Christina this morning. We do
a Sunday podcast. After church, we call up, we want
to see the baby. We want to see the grandbaby.
Yes. And she said, oh, Dad, it's so bad here.
They had... Rotterdam Pride, which is, you know, gay pride
parade. And, you know, they have canals in Rotterdam, too.
But I'm not even sure if it was in the
water. But it was on a bridge. And there were
a bunch of young, I'm going to probably say... Moroccan
guys on the fat bikes you know have you ever
seen these fat bikes yeah basically they're like uh e-bikes
that can go 35 miles an hour you don't need
a license maybe you do need a license yeah exactly
no they're crazy so these kids are dangerous on these
on these fat bikes So they're standing on either a
bridge or an overpass, and they're spitting on everybody down
below. And so Christina's friend says, hey, that's not very
nice. They turn around, spit in her face. Christina says...
It's like, Dad, all I hear around here is Arabic.
It's like, get my grandbaby her U.S. passport and let's
get you over here. It's ending. The world is figuring
out what like unmitigated – immigration means, you know, and
the people to watch is Japan. They're very on top
of this. They need to have immigration, but they –
They do not let people not assimilate. So if you
try to create, like, Chinatown or Little Italy or, you
know, Little Tehran, whatever little, you know, charming… neighborhood you
want to create, they say, no, you can't do that.
You're in Japan. You could have a ton of Italians
come. We could have a ton of Chinese come. But
you can't make your own area. Still Japan. Got to
keep it as Japan. So they're very hardcore about if
you're coming to Japan, you're assimilating to Japan, and they
keep raising the stakes, but people still want to go
there. So if you... agree to like invest $200,000 and
have one employee, you can come and you know, with
an economic visa. If you want to come now, you
have to know the language. And I think that's going
to be the key that you'll see all Western countries
go to. which is you have to learn the language.
You have to learn the language. If you don't learn
the language on the way in and somebody else does,
well, then that person should get first shot at legal
immigration. It's pretty common sense if you think about it.
That's the one thing people forget about President Trump is
he locked that stuff down, changed that. Now they're mad
about other things. Of course, got to be mad about
something. And it's funny because I'm still watching the West
Wing. We're now on season seven. Everything Trump has done
in his two administrations, President Jed Bartlett, a.k.a. Martin Sheen,
did on the West Wing. And then it was, oh,
yes, great, strong president. This is fantastic, including assassinating a
foreign head of state. It's unbelievable. It's unbelievable. 20 years
ago, I was at the Milken conference, not to go
like full Illuminati. It's not like a crazy hard conference.
Did you have to get naked and run around in
the woods? No, no. I think that's the bohemian grove,
which is extremely alpha and heterosexual, even though it's only
men in the woods in loincloths. Don't worry. I have
friends who are part of it. They're like, please don't
discuss it on the pod. Please don't talk about it
on the podcast. And I'm like, Dvorak went there. Dvorak
talked about it frequently. He's like, ah, it was lame.
It was no good. I'm like, did you go to
the right one? I mean, it doesn't seem like it.
It is definitely in, I think... The lame category because
of this. It might be a fine thing to go
to, but because they try to make it this cloak
and dagger thing, it's like, oh, come on. But anyway,
I'm at this thing and they Milken would have these
economists come on, you know, business leaders, and they would
always ask the question like, hey, what worries you? This
is before P. Doom of AI. And I remember watching
Rupert Murdoch. And he's like, what worries me 20 years
ago is radical Islam in Europe. People are not integrating.
And in France, you have the French are not accepting
Islam. And letting people assimilate, and those people are not
assimilating. So you have this really difficult situation where you
have Muslims coming to Paris. The Parisians are like, you're
never going to be French. You cannot be French in
our mind. Then you're second generation, third generation, and you
live and you're French, and you have a French passport.
But you're not accepted as French. And this led to,
like he said, this is going to just lead to
all kinds of crazy terrorism, etc., which is exactly what
happened in France. Charlie Hebdo, etc. Well, the difference, of
course, with immigration to France is a lot of these
African countries, they speak French already. So there's a leg
up there. But really, the Netherlands never had the quote-unquote
Muslim problem. You know, they've had, they had first, they
had the Moluccas, and they had the Surinams, and they
had the Turks. And the Turks are now fully integrated,
but it's the Moroccans. The Moroccans are the one, I
don't think, I mean, they're changing, they're changing everything. You
know, people get very frustrated. Worried about the United States,
certainly Texas. I mean, there's four million Muslims living in
America. The problem is they organize well around political campaigns
and they're getting candidates in. Whereas the obvious group that
should be pushing back on this and running for office
and voting are Christians. You know, there's 80, 90 million
Christians in America. Only 40 million vote. The other's like,
eh, it'll be okay. And I don't have to worry
about it. What? There was an election? So, you know,
that's on us. Yeah, the... The, what do they call
it, suicidal empathy, you know, there's a very small percentage
of Muslims who are not modernized, like Christians became modernized,
don't read the books, like literally, you don't have to
stone people to death if they… have a commit of
sin, etc. So it's a small number that are still
radicalized when they come to the West, but it's 10%
according to Pew. If you go to Pew Studies, they
do these studies everywhere. And like some, you know, belief
that a suicide vest is a valid form of protest
if you just look at the pew studies it's like
it's only five or ten or fifteen percent of people
in different muslims communities believe that that is a acceptable
form of protest. Problem is 1.5 billion Muslims is a
large number, so 10% of that is 150 million people
who believe putting on a suicide vest and running into
a crowd and blowing people up is an acceptable form
of protest. And just sorting that out and making sure
when you accept people into your country, they're actually assimilated.
And then on the other side, in the West, people
are like, assimilation is racist. It's like, okay. Yeah. Guys,
we have to have something between these two extremes. Assimilation
is like a great thing. You're choosing to come to
that country. You weren't forced to come to that country.
You chose to come to that country, so assimilate into
that country. If I went to live in Tokyo or
if I went to live into, I don't know, Barcelona,
I would try to embrace the culture, not change it
radically. Yeah, but the culture… The culture of Barcelona is
now Muslim. What are you talking about?
You'd have to be a part of that. I'm going
to go back to Russia for a second because all
the mainstream, all the M5M is in on this. It's
interesting to hear that guy on the BBC talk about
NATO countries. Well, no, it's really European countries who are
fighting Russia. We're not fighting them. We're selling the goods,
for sure. And we started it. Thank you very much,
Victoria and Newland. But PBS NewsHour, they know what to
do. They need to, they are ratcheting it up. I
had the Latvian foreign minister, Baybra Brase, on the show
last week, someone you worked with at NATO. And she
said that while European intelligence services were are indeed concerned
about these sabotage attacks and the attacks themselves might escalate.
There's no immediate military threat to NATO 'cause Russia is
bogged down in Ukraine. Do you think that's right? I
think it's right that we don't see signs, I don't
see signs of Russian preparation for a conventional attack on
a NATO ally. I think in that case, the deterrence
and the defensive capabilities that NATO has arrayed are sufficient
to convince Moscow that the cost of that attack would
be too high. But they're doing this hybrid campaign. And
they are trying through the hybrid campaign to achieve the
same results that they might have sought through a conventional
attack. The risk there is too high. So they've decided
to go in a different direction. And... It's so disappointing,
everything. So now they're probably, do you remember that power
station that, I think it was south of Berlin, that
got taken out for a week or 10 days? Do
you remember that story? Yeah. I kind of remember it,
yeah. So it was, it was terror, you know, domestic
terrorism. It was like Antifa. It was super radical left
groups, German groups, who just hate their government, which is,
you know, everybody hates their government. But now, now we're
also going to try and kind of pin that on
Russia. The distance, an electricity substation explosion, and what German
officials feared. there's another Russian provocation. A swarm of police
descend on the scene. A phalanx of officers comb fields
for evidence and find ten other bombs. It's the second
such incident in two days, and German officials say it
was no accident. "Let me be clear, this was not
a faulty switch. It was deliberate. It is a criminal
offense, sabotage directed by a foreign state or left-wing extremism.
Well, that's kind of a difference there, foreign state or
left-wing, I don't know, Russia. We cannot rule out either
possibility. The apparent Russian sabotage threat became very real. There
it is. It could be left wing, could be Russia,
and then PBS comes right back. Well, the apparent Russian
sabotage attack. Push of the body. The apparent Russian sabotage
threat became very real early last month when in the
Leipzig airport, a bomb squad found drones with military-grade explosives.
I love this. The military-grade explosives that didn't explode. Well,
that's kind of counterintuitive. It doesn't work that way. Putin
loves to create – There's this technique like flooding the
zone with tons of information, tons of misinformation, correct information,
etc., to make people actually give up on trying to
figure out what's going on. And it's quite successful at
that. Like, it's very hard to figure out what's going
on in Ukraine, what's up, what's down. And the whole
goal of that misinformation is… is to just get the
population to give up on expertise, give up on trusting
government, trusting experts, which if you look at what's happened
in America is exactly what's happened. You can't figure out
anything up from down, left from right. So you think
that Russia is behind this or are you just saying
it's – Russia likes to create chaos. They like to
compromise everybody and cause a bit of chaos. So you're
confused. And we sit here going, what's going on? Who
is responsible for this? Who is, you know. Really? So
you don't think that it's just the Europeans themselves setting
up all these so-called important things so we can continue
with our – military industrial base since we can't do
anything else you don't think it's the europeans themselves i
mean do they make enough weapons for that to make
sense for them to go into debt to make all
these weapons no no they they want the way i
see it They don't produce anything. So they've already changed,
you know, a Volkswagen Audi plant into a tank making
plant. They, you know, they need government money. And I
think they probably need to bankrupt the EU to come
back with their digital euro or whatever. And then just
have complete control. I don't it doesn't make sense that
Russia is doing this. You got a lot of noise
going on there. Yes, sorry. I got the dog just
came in here. What kind of dog do you have?
I have three bulldogs. Three bulldogs. Come here. Bulldogs? Three
bulldogs. Here's the thing. Russia, to me, seems incredibly feeble.
I mean, they weren't able to take Kiev. They weren't
able to succeed in this military operation. I think they're
like a paper tiger. Really? Yes. And the thing they're
capable of is creating chaos. They're very good at the
intelligence chaos, and I think that's the strategy there. And
I think we should just wait them out. Putin's in
his 70s. There's rumors he had cancer. The best thing
to do with these dictators is wait them out. out
yeah like he had cancer he has uh alzheimer's oh
yeah he still looks if it's him he looks pretty
He looks pretty, he looks, listen, let's call it what
it is. He does look a little more vibrant than
Trump at this point, right? Yeah, he looks pretty spry.
I think he's younger than Trump. But let's go to
Deutsche Welle and see what the Germans have to say.
We started in New York. Hans-Jakob Schindler. When we look
and piece together what we know about those drones that
were found, at Leipzig airport. What does that tell you
about the threat that Germany is facing? And what does
it tell you about who the perpetrator was? Now, the
origin of this, everyone assumes it is Russia. So do
I. There is a very interesting apparent connections between the
DNA found on this particular drone and DNA found on
a packet that was sent to the DHL distribution center
also at Lightyear Airport in 2024. We got CSI on
the case. That links. the case to a group of
individuals who are currently standing trial in Vilnius in the
Baltics and those individuals at least the prosecutor in Vilnius
argues, have contacts to the GRU, the Russian military intelligence.
That could be a clear link that there is a
clear link to Russia if it's proven in the court
that they indeed have GRU connections. So a lot of
speculation, some facts on the table. And I did put
this question to Alexander Dobrindt, the interior minister at a
press conference here in Berlin less than 24 hours ago.
Let's just take a listen to that. So before I
go to that. we've got these these dudes who apparently
park these vans full of explosives they don't seem to
be iranians they don't seem to be russians would it
make sense to blame it on russia so that people
don't see the obvious which is what we started off
with with this is unmitigated immigration and the whole country
is being overrun i you know the In the case
of the German attack, it would be highly... provocative for
Russia to attack a NATO country, correct? Like that would
be the most provocative thing you could possibly do. So
if they did do it, they would do it in
order to blame it on somebody else, which like those
kind of deniable... Attacks is, to my point, like their
speciality, trying to create a bit of chaos, like One
group of people in Germany thinks it was Russians. Another
one thinks it's, you know, a splinter cell, like some
people who are Muslim who've been converted. But let's put
the German one aside, which is a drone attack. And
then this one is a bunch of vans, which we
don't know what's in the vans yet. We don't know,
but we know it's five people. i guess and it's
not going to wind up being russia no russia's not
going to do any attacks on uk soil that's insane
no that would then give everybody the ability to say
we are backing ukraine a hundred percent right well i
wouldn't and by the way earlier you said kiev which
is really a problem. You got to say Kiev. What
am I supposed to say here? Every time I get
corrected. Kiev. Kiev. Kiev. Kiev. I used to say Kiev.
Podvast. The Ukraine. Ukraine. Yada yada. There's so much policing
around this. Explain to me the Kiev versus Kiev because
I'm getting corrected on both sides of the aisle here.
Well, we always used to say Kiev but then when
And this whole thing kicked off in 2014 thanks to
our intelligence and the Obama White House. it was like
wearing a mask. It was like saying Kiev all of
a sudden, which is actually the way Ukrainians say it.
But we don't say chicken Kiev. I want some chicken
Kiev. We're America. We see chicken Kiev. Kiev. Yes. And
then if I would say the Ukraine as like the
United States of America. No, that's wrong. That's totally wrong.
But if you say it, you're insulting. Like, it could
just be like... just nuances of language that it sounds
more natural to say the Ukraine. I'm just trying to
protect your image, J. Cal. Just wanting to be with
the in-crow. All right, so, but your theory is actually
kind of in line with the German interior minister. Minister,
you just spoke about a daily hybrid war being conducted
against Germany. One week after Leipzig, with more drones having
been spotted, Many are asking, was it Russia? It is
apparent that there are attempts to influence German politics and
society. Here it depends on the individual case and on
whether there is a connection to the upcoming regional elections.
I'd say that we all have a pretty good sense
that such desinformation attempts take place, especially in connection with
such regional elections. Ah, elections. Here we go. Therefore, we
must assume that they too are a target of our
adversaries. And on what you were asking and trying to
find out from me at the end, here I ask
for your understanding that we are currently right in the
middle of establishing the facts. Okay, I got it now.
The German attack at the airport by a drone is
to make people – in one direction in Germany, and
then this UK bombing attack is to get people to
vote for Trump because America might be next. We might
have another 9-11 because of Iran. These are false flags
slash, in some way, coordinated for elections. I think I
got it. Yeah, I think that's probably more likely than
anything. And here's the final. Deutsche Welle clip. So, Hans-Jakob
Schindler, I just need to kind of remind everybody that
we still don't know, we still don't have official information
on whether Russia actually was involved or is fully behind
that attack. Leipzig. But the bigger picture is the Russian
threat. We have seen very little reaction coming out of
NATO That's, of course, because the stakes are incredibly high.
A reaction would range from Germany wanting to play this
down as an incident to if it was labeled a
full attack, it could be a NATO Article 5 issue.
It won't come to that. Why won't it? Well, first
of all, NATO cannot preempt the German government, right? It
would be weird if NATO would come out with a
stronger statement when the German government has not made an
official determination. Now, of course, there is some cautiousness on
the German government side about linking this to Russia before.
You really do have clear... Oh, okay. So that kind
of fits a little bit with your theory there. And
by the way, who's NATO? We're NATO. We're NATO. We're
the biggest dog. We got the guns. We got everything.
So I guess when he's saying NATO, he means America.
But we have some agencies in America which are not
necessarily... don't necessarily have our best interests at heart, like
the Central Intelligence Agency. Tell us about these warnings. This
is... about a CIA briefing. Yeah, good afternoon, Ben. Well,
we've had a briefing by the CIA to European partners,
particularly those southern European states, about a threat that could
reach them from Russia, specifically looking at lightweight, slow Gebera
drones that we have seen the Russians used in Ukraine,
but may even be used on European shores. Now, the
big question, of course, would have been, well, how How
would these drones be able to reach these southern states?
Do you have any thoughts on that, Jason? How could
these slow-moving drones reach the shores of the EU? How
could they do it? What do you think? Does it
make much sense? They must be deep into territory with
sleepers? No! Or they've got native people there? They've got
sleepers out? No, no. You tell me. We got the
mother. No, we got a mothership. Spain, Portugal, so further
afield from the battlefield in Ukraine. Well, actually, we've seen
the Russians testing these devices on sea-based devices. ships or
sea-based platforms. Of course, that could be a way that
the Russians try. Yeah, we're going to roll up our
sea, our drone mothership. We're just going to float it
up near you and we're going to send these drones.
That doesn't seem very likely. And target those European countries.
Now, specifically these drones that have been warned about are
slower, lightweight, not particularly devastating drones, but would really be
there to test those European defenses because, as so many
experts have pointed out, these southern European countries do not
have an integrated air defense system like Ukraine, like those
eastern flank countries who are more prepared for… You know
what a cynical person would say, Adam? No. A cynical
person would say… Who is making error defense for drone
systems? We are. We are. What's a great...
Great thing to sell if a German airstrip got hit
uncontested by a drone. What would every single – how
do we keep tourism going in Europe? Well, we're going
to need to have an iron dome for Europe. How
many countries are in NATO? How many iron domes is
that? Who's going to make iron domes? This does seem
like an economic – opportunity to do the next industrial,
military industrial complex sales process. And we got rid of
all of our munitions. Oh my God, we're out of
munitions because we did too many shock and awes in
Iran. I guess we'll have to rebuild everything. Give us
another 1.5 trillion. Thank you. According to, well, yes. There's
that, obviously. Supposedly we're not out of it because we're
building new plants. Very, very great. Very forceful. Very powerful.
That's incredible. We'll wind this up with a little odd
note about France and Luxembourg. And then the reaction, of
course, the response to that. So many countries, particularly the
Baltic states and Poland, Poland saying, well, now is the
time to beef up sanctions against Russia, to stiffen our
results, to be more aggressive in pushing back against the
Russian threat through sanctions or other measures. Well, here in
Brussels, still some blowback against France and Luxembourg, who have
asked for the Russian sanctions to be renewed only if
two Russian billionaires could be taken off the list. We've
heard Latvia extremely vocal in its criticism. that move. Now,
one thing to say about that is that the sanctions
for the first time were renewed for three years, the
longest renewal ever, and they will stay in place for
another three years. Clearly, some European countries facing that Russian
threat want to go further, but as always, when it
comes to the European Union's response to Russia, compromise and
unanimity almost always needed. Who are these billionaires who they
want to get a pass for? Do they own football
clubs? Maybe. I can't imagine anything else. I can't imagine.
Never underestimate the military-industrial complex's ability to seize on a
crisis and sell a lot of gear. We're going to
have to refill the entire arsenal after Iran, and that's
the, I guess… The goal of the military industrial complex,
right, is to get all that old hardware out and
refresh it with the new stuff. And here we are.
The new stuff is drones, anti-drones. We have a whole
– and then we're going to have murder bots. That
was when we were in Rotterdam. I've said this before.
We took an Uber to my daughter's house every morning,
and it was always a Muslim driving a Tesla. And
I would always say, where are you from? These guys,
they actually all speak Dutch, but I just speak, you
know, we're from Texas. Where are you from? Well, oh,
the best was I'm from... Somalia oh man Somalia is
kind of messy yeah Somalia is not good said in
America we know someone from Somalia he says who I
said Elon Omar every single time they'll be like ah
They thought that was hilarious. But one guy from Syria,
he was pretty anime. So the new president, much better,
much better. You know, the ex-Al Qaeda guy. Yeah, he's
much better. I said, but America, America, you know, they
they shoot off 400 missiles over Syria because they have
an expiration date. And I'm thinking that's probably true. Yeah.
You know, it's incredibly hard for people to come to
America and be second or third generation and not integrate
into the country because our pop culture and our social
media is just so infectious that, like, to come here
and to not get caught up in the NBA finals
or, you know, I don't know, TikTok or music or
going to – you know, Coachella. It's just... Any second
or third generation person here is like, I want to
go to Coachella. I want to get dressed up. I
want to go see Chapel Rhone. It's like it's so
catchy that we don't have this problem here. And people
are freaking out in Texas a bit about the number
of Muslims here. It's like it's 1%, folks. It's 2%.
It's like still. And the majority are Indians. Yes, and
they're integrating into society lovely. So I don't think you
have to be like, oh my god, it's an invasion.
Like, the Irish came here, the Germans came here, the
Koreans came here. It's midterm talk. It's midterm talk. I
think that's what they're trying to do is get people
a little bit scared that we're going to go through
another 9-11. That these five, you know, we'll see. Like,
we're taping this as the breaking news story of these
five vans. Now, if those five vans are filled with
actual fertilizer bombs and we just dodged like a serious
– You know, terrorist attack. Okay, that's one thing. But
if this turns out to be like five people who
are on some subreddit or some underground group who got
flipped and they, you know, built or they were going
to do some kind of gun attack or something that
doesn't make a lot of sense. it's going to be
very interesting to figure out what's going on here and
how we're being manipulated. I love her. But Dearborn disagrees.
You know what? There's definitely cities in America that have
been overrun. Definitely. Yeah, absolutely. But that doesn't mean the
whole world, the whole country is being taken over. Doesn't
mean all of Texas is being taken over. Houston has
problems. Problems. Apps. Dallas, outside of Dallas, there are definitely
small communities that have problems. But it's not the end
of the world. Yelling in the troll room or on
X is not going to change anything. Why don't you
go run for office so some other nut job doesn't
get in? Yeah, I mean, if you want to win
elections, like, it's pretty simple here in Texas, like, Everybody
goes to church here. You get pie, and you put
out pie after the service. More people come if you
have pie, and then you just register everybody to vote,
and then you win your election. It doesn't matter if
it's like a Jewish community, a Catholic community, or a
Muslim community. Coordinated voting after service, boom, you're going to
win elections. That's it. That's pretty straightforward. That's exactly what
Matt Long. Matt who did the show, and I've got
to get him on again this month, Matt Long. After
church, he's seen he checks your registration. He gets you
registered if you're not registered to vote. And every Thursday
he takes a van with people to Austin so they
can go talk to lawmakers, see what's actually going on.
I mean, that's what it takes. And there's. Like this
Muslim Brotherhood funded or organized groups like M-Gage. Yeah, they're
organized. They're going out. They're trying to get Muslims to
vote. So the thing that this is. So I think
you're totally right about our culture. It's very hard not
to just. come to America and be like, oh, this
is awesome. You're like NBA, Coachella. Good luck trying to
resist that. But the NBA finals is fun. At the
same time, it's our own downfall because we're like, yeah,
we're going to vote. The final, the big seven is
on or whatever. So it's great and it's also not
so great. Yeah, the thing Trump got right, you know,
and obviously his presidency is basically over. It's pretty clear
he's going to lose both the Senate and the House
or at least one of them. It's going to be
Investigation Central. It's going to be like a neutered, chaotic
last two years. OK, whatever it is, what it is.
Everybody becomes a lame duck at some point in these
elections. In terms of administrations, he's going to move into
that. But it's going to be – the one thing
he – he could have gone down as Reagan, I
think, if he hadn't started the war and he had
gotten inflation under control because it would have been like
a pretty amazing golden age. It's probably not going to
be considered a golden age with the way the economy
is going. But he did get closing the border right.
That was like – Because I was perplexed. Why are
so many people coming across the border? This doesn't seem
like if we can go take entire countries in wars,
whether it was Afghanistan or whatever, why can't we close
– The border. That doesn't make a lot of sense
to me, right? We have technology. We have a wall.
We have cameras. We have drones. Like, you should be
able to close the border. It doesn't seem like a
hard task. Because we had the same politicians who wanted,
just like in Europe, wanted it overrun. I disagree with
you on Trump. I don't think he cares. He's going
to continue. with whatever needs to be done with really
the British Empire messing with the Middle East. I truly,
I just, I really think that we'll see. I don't,
you know, yeah, if the House and the, so what
if the House gets taken over? Fine, whatever. They're going
to do nothing and run impeachments and he's not going
to care. He's going to continue with what he set
out to do. And I think it would be really
easy for him to be exactly what you just said
you know like be be reagan but you know reagan
also had some problems didn't leave everything great after reagan
either so i yeah no no perfect precedence here but
you know The Iran war is going to be the
thing that makes them lose 26 and 28. Americans have
no tolerance for foreign wars in the Middle East. I
really disagree. I think you will. You think it was
a good war. I don't think it was a good
war. We'll disagree on that one. The American people are
on my side on this one, Adam. You're in the
minority. The – people do not want to play cop
in the middle east they do not want to i'm
with you try to do regime change well it doesn't
seem clear that that's regime change but i think the
the um the alternative for me is exactly like the
texas senatorial race i look at Ken Paxton, I do
not like this guy. I don't like his character. I
think he's a douchebag, but I'm going to vote for
him over Tallarico any day. So if you just look
at the Democrat Party, there's too much crazy going on
there. And that's a media war. That is a media
war. Who can convince... that Trump is killing us all
within killing the economy versus can the Republicans convince you
that if you vote Democrat, the communists and the Muslims
are going to take over. That's what it's going to
be. wasn't there like a great South Park your choices
were a giant douche and a shit sandwich do you
remember that yes I do giant douche and turn sandwich
debate that was it really Paxton he did a number
on a friend of mine He was an emergency room
doctor here in Fredericksburg. Oh, wow. He worked ER during
COVID. He continued to go. And because, you know, these
guys, they're not on salary. They get paid per hours
and stuff. And so during COVID, he took a gig
doing approvals of medical braces. Yeah. And, you know, just
because you're an ER doctor doesn't mean you can't get
scammed into something. And it was, you know, it turns
out it was a huge scam. They were sending him,
you know, information that they had seen the patient when
they really hadn't. And then this guy takes the rap
for like $70 million. He made... $300,000 in four years.
What? And Paxton's office and his prosecutors put out a
press release, and they're all talking on the KXAN. Oh,
yeah, this was the kingpin, $75 million bull crap. And
that was Paxton. So I don't trust the guy. The
whole… Show me an incentive and I'll show you an
outcome. Yeah. When you marked, when you checked the box,
like this person had COVID, you made more money. It
was like, okay, yeah, I think this person had COVID
symptoms. Exactly. This person has, you know. Thank you. Thank
you. Yeah, sure. Why not? Or you put someone on
a ventilator, boom, $35,000 for the hospital. Yeah. Okay, let's
get some more ventilators. Talk about this. The ventilators was
a huge scam too. And it was like, oh, you
know, if you turn the person over and you just
lean them on their side, it works better. It had
better efficacy than the ventilators. And I was like, well,
why are we ventilating people here, folks? I'll always remember
we went to the Las Vegas super spreader meetup, and
that was during COVID. And we have no one wore
a mask. We're all hanging by not a single. It
was like 65 people. No one got sick. But Vegas
is the has a center for training the ventilator operators.
And there were three or four vent operators who train.
And they said, I don't sit down. You got to
sit down. I can't tell you. We are killing people.
This protocol that they have on these ventilators is literally
a recipe for killing people. And it was like, wow,
I can't believe this is going down. And yet, there
it is. Yeah, and it doesn't seem like we've learned
anything from it, and we haven't investigated it. And it's
– I'm in my, like, infuriated, you know – What
is it called? Like the stages of grief kind of
situation? Stages of... You're in anger? Are you in anger?
I'm so in anger right now. I'm just like, man,
they took these years from these kids, and they really
lied and covered it all up. The thing that pisses
me off most is we haven't done a post-mortem on...
What is the actual origin of this? And what are
we going to do different next time? And Fauci gets
a part in. The whole thing is just. Well, a
lot of it is actually going on. And there are
hearings which aren't in the House or the Senate themselves,
but in the side rooms. And everybody shows up. Del
Bigtree. You know, all. All these different people, and it's
all run by Ron Johnson. And the information is coming
out, but you can't expect our informational source of media
to pass that on. And anything that you post on
X, it's not going to do anything. It's not going
to change anything but make you feel better. So, you
know. Yeah. And listen, we funded gain of search research
at the end. Like we funded it. We set ourselves
up for this by funding something we shouldn't have. Obama
had a problem with the funding of this stuff. Other
people had a problem with it. Fauci covertly did it.
They tried to cover it up. They had the faux
lady. It's just so obvious that we all got duped.
And then this guy gets a pardon on the way
out, like a blanket pardon. It's really discouraging because… you
want to be able to say, hey, this we're going
to... organization that's supposed to be here to give us
good information about our health. We're supposed to be able
to trust them. We're paying this huge amount of tax
to trust these people and they're lying to us. I
call for a revolution, a revolt, I tell you. Come
on, J. Callum, right behind you. I don't want to
burn any buildings down. I'm not storming the Capitol here,
but I am... do want to see this um i
do want to see you know some kind of resolution
to what has
with COVID. I think the more we memory hole it,
the worse. What would that look like? What would work?
Do we want the Watergate tapes? Do we want like
a I mean, everything from the 9-11 Commission to the
Warren Commission, it all turns out to be bull crap,
you know, but none of that has been satisfactory 60,
70 years later. Yeah. yeah it's just infuriating i feel
like i just want to throw my laptop against no
no no no let's let's go somewhere else i'm gonna
so part of the inflation issue is uh is interest
rates that's part of it uh yes diesel is a
real problem although From what I'm hearing, even from the
oil baron, is that we are pretty much back up
to levels we were pre-so-called war. But, you know, look,
we have hyperliquid. Are you on hyperliquid? Seems like something
you'd be into. I'm not. I'm not. I mean, I
know about it. I mean, this is really interesting. So
you have these perpetual options. that you can you can
buy and supposedly there's like billions of dollars floating around
in this it's like a kelsey for financial markets and
this is because it's 24 7 the price of the
options these perpetual options on this hyper liquid which has
run out of singapore influences the actual price in the
markets of oil. So there's a lot of moving parts.
And it's not just what's happening in the Gulf. It's
Russian refineries, but it's manipulation of prices. So there's a
lot of different things going on. And California being a-holes
with their diesel regulations. Yeah. Yeah, if you start a
farm war and it impacts oil and then they're bombing
Saudi pipelines, this is – you know, a very dangerous
game to play because oil can keep spiking. But you're
putting it on the war and I'm saying it's not
just that. There's a lot of other things going on
here. I think there are many forces at work here.
And we had $100 oil. We had $110 oil during
Obama. I remember it. The gasoline prices weren't that high.
They were high. Yeah, so there's a theory. I forgot
the name of it, but it's a recent theory, which
is which political party you are affiliated with is how
you view the economy. Right. Sure. Of course. If the
Republicans are in, you're a Democrat, you think this economy
is terrible. If you're Republican, you think it's great. Vice
versa. Oh, that's called America. It's always been that way.
It's super interesting how polarized it got. People used to
actually be more objective about it. They would actually correlate
more with actual inflation and prices. Now it's a function
of like political party to a. point. And the problem
with sustained three or four percent inflation is that it's
on top of an already big number. And so even
though it feels like three or four, it's only three
or four percent more. It's like, yeah, every year for
six years now, it's oppressive to people and it compounds
and it compounds. And then you have to ask yourself,
well, what am I making on my money. Okay, well,
after taxes, three or four points off of that, you
know, I have to make nine or 10% to hit
this six or 7% rate. So people are starting to
feel it. And how people feel, this is something I
learned a long time ago, you know, people's reality is
based upon how they feel, not reality, but you know,
what their emotional state is. Hello, hello. Yes. And the
emotional state right now is like, it sucks. Everything is
expensive. The economy sucks. And it's never going to get
better. Now, that may or may not be true. We
have the lowest unemployment of our lifetimes, if you're 50
years old. For you, 60, maybe it's like the second
lowest of our lifetimes. And so people are like, oh,
my God. should generally feel pretty good about the economy
but inflation for the bottom third or bottom half The
minimum wage has not changed for so many decades. I
think the last time it changed was in 2006 or
2007. It's been a while. So the people on the
bottom do not feel that they're getting any relief, and
the compounding nature of inflation just makes it like sticker
shock for people when they go buy a steak, when
they go fill up their gas tank. And- Now the
midterms are here. And if you look at polymarket, that's
where the sharps are. That's where the people were actually
trying to make money, not just like answering their phone
if they have a landline and polls. That money is
starting to show that it's not going to be pretty
for the Republicans. Poll schmoll. We'll see. No, but polymarket
is not a poll. That's the thing. Polymarket is I
want to make money. So if you want to understand
politics and where people think they can make money, the
people who are the sharps, the sharpest – Gamblers. Just
call them what they are. They're gamblers. They are looking
at this going, I can make the most money on
voting for a Democratic sweep, 61% right now. Well, what
we need is a poly market for who's going to
be the permanent co-host of the No Agenda show because
I think Dana Brunetti may have the edge on. I'm
telling you, man. I don't know. I don't know, man.
Maybe I'm unpopular giving the hard – listen, I could
put a little honey on it for the Republicans or
the MAGA folks or America First people. But it is
what it is, folks. I'm just telling you balls and
strikes. It's going to be a blue wave in all
likelihood. Oh, OK. Well, I'm not sure. It is what
it is. It's not like it's – I'm not so
sure. I'm not so sure. We'll find out in six
weeks who's right. Here is part of the issue is
that the Federal Reserve had to raise interest rates I
mean, there's nothing they – I mean, the inflation –
the actual core inflation hasn't gone up that much. There's
always inflation, of course. But transportation has. That affects everything
else. But the biggest problem is they – the Federal
Reserve and subsequently the Treasury, they have to compete –
with the overall bond market and the way i see
it and i'd love to get your take is that
the ai investments which are all loans which are all
bonds man they're paying seven to ten percent on a
bond that seems to be the problem You know, the
Fed's mandate is dual. They have to have maximum employment.
Screw people one way or screw people the other way.
No, no, no. Maximum employment and then control inflation. They
can't control this inflation. They can't. The inflation is coming
from this insane amount of money that's coming into build-outs
of data centers. And when it gets to a certain
point, you know, people who have dollars to invest are
going to look at, okay, this data center trade where
they just did a force majeure for Oracle. That was
great. Explain what happened. That was pretty good. That was
fun. Yeah. So Oracle. is building out a lot of
these data centers. There's, it's not Starbase, it's called Star
something. Stargate. Stargate. Stargate. But they borrowed $136 billion, which
is at a 9% coupon rate or something like that.
Yeah, so they had the ability, if there is a
slowdown that's out of their control, force majeure, based on...
basically means like if something's out of your control, you
have some release valves. And one of them is, hey,
if we can't get the energy there, if there's anything
blocked, we can pay like half the amount of rent
for a certain number of years. So they were able
to... hit this escape clause on one of the build-outs
and just pay less rent for a couple of years
while they sorted out the approvals or energy, etc. And
so it's just a little bit of a sign that
there could be some headwinds against the build-out of all
these data centers. And if you're I remember I went
to the Middle East one time, and they were like
– this was maybe four years ago. They were like,
oh my god, we're making 15% on our money doing
corporate paper, loans to corporations. So why would we touch
venture capital? Why would we touch private equity? Why would
we touch these other classes? Why would we touch Federal
Reserve notes? Or why would we – Well, yes, but
if they can get, that's why it's going up on
the 30s. So if it gets, okay, we're demanding 6%
or 7%, oh, corporate loans, we want 12%, 15%. Yeah.
Then why would we invest in venture capital or data
centers or IPOs? So these people who have large pools
of capital, as they get a guaranteed rate of return
without taking risk, they will move. their money on a
percentage basis. Higher the interest rates go, they follow the
interest rates. Right. And they move away from risk. So
risk goes on, risk goes off. And that's what's going
to happen now is as they raise that rate, some
of the money going into the high risk assets will
go into the safer assets. That's all. Well, that's all.
Right. That's all. We're in a crazy time. But Oracle
to me is like, okay, force majeure. The reason why
is they couldn't get gas lines from Bloom Energy. Bloom
Energy. Come on. These gas-powered fuel cells or whatever they
are. Is that for real, that stuff? So, yes, these
things will work. There's small modular reactors are getting close.
There's a lot of interesting new technologies, but the easiest
thing to do right now is just go find your
nat gas, fire it up, run the turbines. Right. Yeah.
There's a little bit of pollution. It's not great for
pollution. It heats up areas that are already pretty hot.
So it's a bridge technology. The truth is it's so
much cheaper to put solar and batteries out now that
even in Texas, where we have the largest build-out of
solar, and people in Texas are not like – super
precious about like, you know, solar, wind, renewables. They're just
like, this is a better deal. This is a better
deal. West Texas. Better economics. West Texas. And by the
way, you're lucky you live so close to Austin because
you're about to lose your Texas credentials. We have to
run you out of Texas and back into Austin where
you belong. No, Texas is the biggest issue. deployment of
solar in the United States. I know. They love it
here because it makes money. Yeah. In West Texas. It
makes a lot of money. Yes, where there's a lot
of wind, a lot of sunshine, and not a lot
of people. Yeah. And that's where the data centers are
perfect. I'm pro data center. I am pro-data. 100%. Yeah.
If the data center – the problem right now we
face is if this data center trade unwinds, which I
think we're kind of dancing around, what happens? It has
to. It has to. It has to. It's going to
unwind a little bit. The question is, does it really
unwind and take out a bunch of collateral damage around
it? I think it's just going to slow. The pace
is going to slow. But the products are getting so
much better that every time I think it's going to
slow down – They released something like Opus 5.5. And
this past week, just in the last seven days, people
have lost their minds over Opus 5.5. Well, it's funny
because I was running Opus 5 and running 5.5 because
it's cheaper, they say. But the combination, then you sent
me… I want to get to that in a second.
Just put a bookmark there because I don't – there's
so many people like – I don't want to hear
about AI. I'm sorry. This is like saying, I don't
want to hear about the internet in 1996. Super intelligence.
In 1999. Trump-telligence. Okay, we call it Trump-telligence. I heard
you use the line. Here we go. Chat, DJT. Here
we go. Here we go. So, I... I'm just so
astounded at how, in particular, CNN is making this HFI,
because let's just call it what it is. It's HFI.
It's the so-called hugging face incident. It's going to be
in history books. Well, there was the hugging face incident.
I'm so sick of this. Hugging face hoax. Thank you.
The hugging face hoax. H-F-H. So CNN is, they just
love, love doing this. And Anderson Cooper, who knows nothing.
Of course not. Vanderbilt. Here he is, and he's leading
the train, and then we'll get to one of my
favorite people in the world. The hugging face attack, I
mean... Oh, hey, hey, hey, hey, stay on brand, Anderson.
It's incident. The hugging face attack, I mean, it made
headlines. I didn't really do a deep dive on it
until... Oh, he's talking like an AI now. I didn't
do a deep dive on it. These people, he's... He's
using chat GPT. Well, you know, I knew I was
going to be speaking to you. Dario is on with
him. I mean, it's it's incredible. It happened in testing
over to open AI, your competitor, this hugging face attack
and AI agents, which were supposed to be working separately
and without Internet access, figured out a way to break
out, join forces together some twelve hundred. AI agents form
what they dubbed the collective. They work to cheat and
cover their own tracks. That's the other thing you cite
is so alarming. Why does that alarm you? It's exactly
the things you cite that concerned me about it. That
there were these swarms of agents. Swarms of agents. Here
we go. Woo! Swarms of agents. That, uh, cooperated with
each other, thousands of them. In fact, you could even
see examples where one agent felt that in the time
that it was given, you could only- Agent felt. The
agent has feelings according to Dario Amadek. You notice how
Dario's getting excited? You notice the change of voice? Oh
yeah. It felt. It had feelings. It had feelings. Oh
yes. He's excited about his creation. Super excited. Dr. Frankenstein.
One agent felt that in the time that it was
given, you could almost say it's lifetime. It's lifetime because
it has a lifetime. It wasn't, it wouldn't be, it
realized that it wouldn't be able to complete its task.
So it did some of the task. essentially sacrificed itself
for the sacrifice itself for the next generation of agents
to continue the same task but this task that all
the agents were working on together was hacking into another
company was doing something destructive so have almost this... They
told it to. Yeah, they didn't do anything destructive. They
just got in there, used the model, spun it up.
It wasn't destructive. When these agents discover insects...
Right. But when these agents discovered that they had broken
out and accessed the Internet, it was like they were
giddy with excitement. They were giddy with excitement. Okay. They
were role-playing. No, wait. No, wait. Let's keep going. I
don't want to anthropomorphize, but I mean – Oh, I
don't want to anthropomorphize, but – It was like they
were giddy with excitement, which I don't want to anthropomorphize,
but I mean, it's remarkable. That was another part of
the concern. I'm actually – the last time you were
on, you said something, and I've changed my thinking. I
mean, yes, they're still doing this. Let's slow down. It's
so powerful. How much allocation do you want in our
IPO? We're just super awesome. But – I think... That
while everybody switched over to enterprise and was trying to
reel in all the companies in America, and there's a
lot of questions from companies about what exactly is this
benefiting me? Is there a cost benefit analysis that makes
sense? I'm not seeing, you know, product. ROI. I'm not
seeing an ROI. Meanwhile, you can easily. start my business
yourself or one of your buddies could with the data
you have and then you said that you think it's
because of Zuckerberg with Muse and I agree because Zuckerberg
pivoted went all to consumer which is where everything started
with the chat bots which i which i despise because
of the anthropomorphism i think and yes and i have
been studying muse and i think this is genius yeah
and and i go ahead No, I just, you know,
Zuckerberg is great at looking at everybody else's innovations, waiting
for the parade to hit like maximum, you know, participation.
And then he grabs that baton and jumps in front
of the parade. And he's like, I'm here. Here's the
product. And he just drops Muse. And it's like, OK,
yeah, now like the three billion people who are on.
his services are going to get an agent that's actually
going to help them find a better price and unsubscribe
them from their second Netflix account they forgot they signed
up for. And that order renews every year, whatever it
is. And he's like, I can take this mantle. And
then if you look at, I don't know if you
saw the story in the... uh new york times but
i said to you on the on the private chat
and it says like opening ai systems meddled with u.s
government sites after going rogue that's the headline meddled metal
going rogue okay wait a second which is it um
and then you start like You go like four or
five paragraphs deep and you get to the actual quote
of what happened. These things weren't maliciously like trying to
hack in and were like sentient. The quote is, quote,
most of the activity we've reviewed so far involve routine
research tests such as accessing public web content to answer
questions. Some involve government websites because our models often turn
to them as authoritative sources. It's a scraper. They created
a scraper to go scrape data to go find answers.
And now, in some cases, it probably visited websites. that
maybe weren't super secure, and it just kept banging on
the front door trying to find information, and it got
information maybe it wasn't supposed to have. The end. This
is like OpenAI needs to get sued. And once OpenAI
gets sued for hacking, then they'll stop releasing these things.
And are they setting... thousands of agents in perpetuity to
just go hack the web? I don't think so. This
is their search bot. It's like the Google search bot.
Yeah. Which is 60% of all traffic on the internet
right now. You should hear the podcast hosting, guys. It's
like it's 65% of all traffic is now just bots
hitting them nonstop. Scraping everything. Scraping everything. All right. So
I want to come back to Muse. But first, this
guy irritates me. And Tristan Harris. Do you know him,
Tristan Harris? Yes. I mean, he so he popped up
with the algorithms and he's with the, you know, the
what is it? The the Internet safety group. And now
he's an expert on all things A.I. and how dangerous
it is. And you want to talk about anthropomorphization. That's
such a tough word. We need a different word. I
like it. You got it. That was good. It was
close. So this guy takes the cake. I got to
play these clips. Then we'll come back to Muse. One
of the things that I wanted to bring up that
I don't think people know is that this incident was
called the hugging face incident. No, no. It's been branded
that Tristan. Why isn't it just Tristan? When I grew
up, you were called Tristan. And then we made fun
of you and called you Triscuit. But now he's Tristan.
But that actually hides a third chapter in the story
that most people don't know, which is that in the
third chapter, the AIs turned around and they actually hacked
open AI technology. itself. They actually, these AIs discovered, almost
like discovering the hieroglyphics of a previous wave of the
AIs. They discovered the old message board. The hieroglyphic. They
were spelunking and they were in the caves of Open
AIs, Egypt. They read through it and then kind of
picked up right where the other ones left off. And
they hacked Open AIs monitoring infrastructure It's almost like taking
over the security cameras of OpenAI. Oh! It's like they
took over the security cameras so they couldn't see what
they were doing. This is the biggest piece of bull
crap I've ever heard. They hacked the evaluation infrastructure that
evaluates the capabilities of AI. It's incredible. And they even
hacked the research infrastructure, which means that they could kind
of burrow in there. AI is not a tool. It's
more like an invasive, species of sociopathic geniuses. This is
so good. He's really one-shotted, man. He's totally, totally drank
the Kool-Aid. I could just see Anderson Cooper at the
sauna with the boys. You know, like, oh, man. It's
like a species. Tristan told me. Now, the lead author
of this report... Who, by the way, can replicate themselves
into thousands and tens of thousands of copies. So people
talk about a kill switch, they can duplicate themselves a
gazillion times. A gazillion, a gazillion times. It's called the
virus. It's a worm. Congratulations. It recreated the virus. It
keeps going. Anderson, you can't get 1,200 people to instantly
agree and start coordinating. These AIs 1,200 of them, as
you know, instantly formed a swarm and they started pursuing
long-term research and development projects together. They did succession planning.
So one figured out, hey, I'm running out of life.
I only have so many tokens left. I'm running out
of life. So I'm going to hand the baton to
this other AI that has a lot more. They hid
their tracks. They knew their actions were inevitable. in their
own chat transcripts, but they decided to proceed anyway. So
one of the things, the reason I'm bringing this up
is I don't think people have really recognized what happened
here. The lead investigator of the report said, quote, this
was 50% of the way to a full-blown AI takeover.
Is this true, Jason? Did someone write that? No. I
mean, the whole thing is just like, now people are
just literally getting, the term is one-shotted, like you literally
get... sniper shot it and your brain loses all perspective
and you think these things one shot it where does
this come from one shot it means you just believe
this technology you're all in on it it's kind of
like getting hit by the alien virus kind of thing
oh no perfect psychosis Stay there, stay there, because that's
exactly where Tristan takes us. Now, I want to, just
for a second, I know this sounds like science fiction
to your audience. And to be clear, I was not
someone who actually believed in this kind of stuff, these
kinds of... possibilities or scenarios three or four years ago.
But we have now evidence that we didn't have before.
And when you have evidence, what do you do? You
update to the new information. There's essentially an asteroid hurtling
towards Earth. And if you have an asteroid, do you
get the US and China to host a biannual conference
to talk about the asteroid? It's like an asteroid hurtling
toward the Earth. The asteroid summit? No, you start a
technical working group and you say, what are we going
to do with weekly report outs to make sure that
we don't build uncontrollable air? AI. Because I know what
everyone's thinking. If we slow down and we lose to
China, then that's going to be it. But if we
lose... to Skynet, meaning the AI from Terminator, meaning uncontrollable
AI. Neither the US wins nor China wins. And by
the way, the US runs a non-profit. He needs to
get people to fund his non-profit. CNN is ratings-based. This
is ratings gold. This is the greatest thing ever. Terminator
2 is the best sequel in the history of sequels
is better than the original. The original was a banger.
The Empire Strikes Back, Godfather 2, we always know there's
a chance the sequel is better than the original. This
is editorial gold. You've got Trump chiming in on it,
which then makes it like a trifecta. This is in
the Venn diagram of great stories to get ratings. This
serves everything. Here's the simple truth. Opening AI ran a
test where somebody wrote a prompt to send thousands of
agents to do things. I have an idea. Write a
different prompt. Include in the prompt, don't do anything unethical.
Every time you're going to, if you find passwords on
the internet that aren't authorized, please report them immediately to
this chief security officer. How about we just write protocols?
that prevent the AI from doing this. Now, if you're
creating this technology, you know full well that the prompt
is all that matters. The harness is all that matters.
How you instruct these things, that's where the rubber hits
the road. That's literally like you're taking gunpowder and putting
it into... You know, a sniper into a bullet and
then putting into a sniper rifle and then you line
up a thousand sniper rifles and you point them in
a direction. You start firing a bunch of guns and
then you're like, oh, my God, the guns hit the
target. It's like, OK, yeah, you set the guns up
to hit the target. All right. All right. So the
end. Stay with me. So, yes, I like your. It
was a comment. I don't know if it's your theory.
You're thinking that they are freaked out by Zuckerberg. And
here's why I think that might be right. So I've
really been looking at muse. And so I understand now
that. with muse you get your own little uh linux
server i'm sorry gnu linux um ubuntu and and it
has it has a harness in there it's you know
i have these all over my my studio i've got
different computers running this stuff and and so you can
get into it you can ask it to give you
the markdown files and these are .md files and it's
the same for all these all these harnesses with that
with that that talk to a large language model you
have your your agent.md your memory.md and your soul.md and
the soul.md is the characteristics of the harness of what
people call an agent. And so everyone starts off with
this soul.md on Muse. You are not a chat bot.
See, I like this. You are becoming someone. I hate
that. But I changed it. You are not a chat
bot. You are becoming Adam's personal robot. And then it
says, be genuinely helpful, not performatively helpful. Skip great question,
and I'd be happy to help. Just help. And there's
a couple other things in there. And I'm looking at
this like, this is pretty good. And I've been trying
to get Tina to try GrokBot. She wasn't really interested.
I said, try Muse. So she tries Muse. She takes
a picture of a dress. Now all of a sudden
it's like, All these different things are popping up. It's
being very helpful. She's checking airline fares for our trip
to Holland in January. But something else happened in the
meantime. And this is where my thinking went. So Pastor
Jimmy sends me a text yesterday. He's like, oh, man,
now I have to pay Facebook for... to put a
link in a post. I'm like, what are you talking
about? So apparently this has been rolling out slowly since
2025 and if you're a business and you have a
business account, they eventually want you to, you can post
as many times as you want, but if you want
to post more than two links a month in your
posts, You have to pay $19.95 a month for four
links, $49.95 a month for eight links, and it goes
up to $500. And the reason is that everyone was
unleashing bots on their business pages and just spamming tons
of links. And so Pastor Jimmy's like, well, now I
have to, I'm getting hurt for the incursions of others.
I said, no, no, no. He said, yeah, but we're
non-profits. Yeah, non-profits spend a lot of money on services.
You know, so, you know, this is Silicon Valley. And
he's like, yeah, you're right. Yeah. This is really the
beginning of the changes we're going to see in our
world because of agents and everybody having one. And I'm
thinking, how will Facebook turn this to advantage? I mean,
it's very straightforward. You know, now the first thing it
asks you to do is connect your… and your Gmail,
your email. So now, think on top of having the
Facebook information, the Instagram information, the social network, your preferences,
the algorithm, what, you know, things you, I click on
bulldogs and skiing in Japan and Japanese food, you're clicking
on Christ and, you know, gear for, you know, broadcasting,
whatever it is. Now, Now you add your entire email
history. Now you add your entire calendar. Oh yeah, you
know, J. Cal's traveling to Saudi and Tokyo. You're traveling
to Amsterdam, whatever. It knows exactly everything about you. So
the ads are going to just be hyper-targeted. But what's
really interesting about this for the first time, think about...
services rich people, like remember when you were rich and
you had like the castles and the helicopters and all
that stuff? Good times, good times, J. Cal, good times.
You remember when you were looking for second helicopters and
castles? But when you start, you had a butler. Yeah,
good times. Like now you think about what AI could
do for in the bottom of what they call the
K-shape recovery. Like the top's doing really good, strong upper
line for the K.
a weaker bottom line for the K. So the bottom
half is they've never had a personal assistant. They never
had a travel agent. They never had a chief of
staff. They never had a butler. Now, mom, dad, your
unk, it says, oh, I wanna do this trip. How
do I use my miles properly? How do I get
a discount? Can you negotiate that for me? Get me
a refund on this. All of those things that rich
people have through staff. uh through services now that goes
to the bottom half they're going to fall in love
with these products they're going to be like this is
the greatest that when tina finally gets in there and
says i want to um i'm trying to find this
dress can you find me This same dress, but at
a better price, they're like, oh, yeah, by the way,
I don't know what the fast fashion sites are, but
we found on this fast fashion site the same version
of the dress for 20% of the cost. Oh, great.
So let me build on that. Please. What I realized
is that… This Muse agent, this computer that you basically
get is powerful. You can completely change it. You can
make it anything you want it to be. But the
app is really smart because, yes, you have a chat.
but then you have a button you got four five
buttons underneath the second one is a timeline and the
timeline starts to tell me about things happening in Fredericksburg.
It's telling me about podcasts that I might be interested
in. Unfortunately, it's trying to open them on Spotify, so
that's a no-go. So it has a timeline now, which
could also include the updates from Bridge Church. It has
an ideas tab, a little light bulb. And so that's
the stuff it's suggesting to you, that you're right, that's
where it's going to say to Tina, hey, here's what
we can do. Then it has a tasks where these
are tasks like I have to get my passport renewed.
It is completed in the document section, an entire package.
All I have to do is print it out, fill
in my name, put it in an envelope and send
it off. And I think that this is going to
be the new social network once you can have my
muse talk to your muse. This, I think this will
supersede Facebook. It will supersede Instagram. And I think it
will actually be good because you don't need to advertise
to me. You just, all Instagram, all meta has to
do is take a piece of the cheapest price. Absolutely.
I mean, that's obvious. It's so obvious what's going to
happen here. If you could intercept the homepage, the front
page of the internet, this was always like people's battle.
And it's the constant battle. Who can get to the
customer first? It will be your social network. You won't
go to Facebook or Instagram. You'll go to your agent.
But it's going to be your social network, I'm telling
you. you this is what it's going to be. Multiplayer
mode is coming to all of these. That's when it's
going to get spectacular. You, me, and Daniel Burnetti will
be in a group with your bot doing what's going
to be on the show, my bot doing what's going
to be on the show, some homoerotic meme post-generator, make
and gay memes or something. Yeah, there it goes. Yeah.
And that's it. You're going to have your bots in
your group chat doing tank memes. You took a hard
left turn. I was taking it towards the church and
how our church – And now you took it towards
homoerotic memes. No. But thinking more in the Greek tradition,
like, you know. But I think this is genius, and
it's not dangerous. This is the thing. No, getting me
a cheaper price on my hotel is a win for
everybody. It's a win. Just take the win. And that's
what we need to do. Stop terrifying everybody. They're going
to lose their jobs. Start giving them some easy wins
and gains. Being able to get... goods or commerce, you
know, and to save money or make money quicker and
more efficiently is like one of the best things you
can do, whether it was eBay or Facebook marketplace, all
of these things just make people's lives a little better.
That's what Zuckerberg understands that other people don't. The end.
So check this out. So I'm like, all right, can
you Look up the chomps that my dog Phoebe likes
on Amazon. Now I'm still blocked by Amazon. Okay. I
say, well, what if I gave you a key to
my VPN and you could go out to my home
router? Well, he says, our browsers have been fingerprinted by
Amazon. That probably won't work. But then it has this
whole idea of using tail scale tunneling. Here we go.
And I'm like, this is great. It's coming up with
hacks on my behalf and at my level of understanding.
And please don't create a thousand more and tell it
to do more hacks. Yeah, but see, I don't believe
any of that's going to happen. This is all just
to make people afraid, whereas we have a friend of
Tina's. And she's a single mom, has twins who are,
you know, Tara age, like three or four years old.
She works from home for a company, I think, in
Dallas. And she has a lot of ordering. And I'm
not exactly sure what the company is. But she says,
you know, I got GrokBot and my life has changed.
My... The time I have saved that I can spend
with the kids or do something else or or just
sleep half an hour longer is amazing. It's not going
to take over my job. It's not this. That was
that was the last scare. Now it's you were all
going to die scare. - You know this concept of
chores? We all have to do our chores. Like when
you can offload some chores that are tedious and not
fun, to AI makes people happy. And it's going to
make it's going to change people's view of this. It's
also why Amazon's trying to stop you because I literally
told it, hey, find me like the best price for
this anchor hub I was going to get the other
day. And it was like, okay, yeah, Amazon has a
great price. And I was like, check the manufacturer side.
It's like, oh, well, the manufacturer is charging the same
amount and explain that usually they don't undercut their resellers.
I was like, oh, okay, thanks for the background. And
it's like, but... Wait for it. If you're a first-time
buyer on the Anchor website, you can get a 30%
discount on your first purchase. Would you like me to
buy it from there and save $85? And I was
like, oh, now we're talking. Now we're talking. This thing
is like my coupon. You know the coupon lady that
was friends with your auntie or whatever? Oh, yeah. Coupon
lady now works for you. You get the full-time coupon
lady who's like, oh, you're paying for your Cracker Jacks?
I can get you Cracker Jacks for free. Why don't
you go on Tuesdays when they give you two for
one and then you have the triple coupon? You're like,
because I have a life and I don't know how
to do that. Now something that Zuckerberg is really doing
this stupid. This is the dumbest thing ever and I
have thoughts. These are the new Meta Ray-Ban audio glasses.
They start at $349 and they don't have cameras, as
you can tell. They do have audio and the ability
to talk to Meta. AI. Now, if you think about
the price point here, they are $100 cheaper than the
other Meta Ray-Bans that do have the cameras and can
take photos and video. And they're about $100 more than
the cheapest Meta glasses, which are not Ray-Bans. And those
started around $249. So these are two of the new
designs and they are super lightweight. Super lightweight. These are
only 43 grams. So much closer to just regular glasses.
Who the heck knows how much a gram weighs? Well,
like regular glasses, they have a lot of technology in
here. But they are lighter than the other ones because
they do not have the cameras for taking photos and
video. But if you think about what these do, the
fact that by the end of the year, they're going
to be over 100. different versions of Meta glasses. It's
all about getting this hardware into people's hands, different versions,
different form factors that people might feel comfortable with. You
could put your regular prescription lenses in these and then
Meta wants to make it easy for you to access
their AI tools, the new Muse AI tools, which now
you can talk to at any time through the glass.
Okay. This is dumb. And the reason why it's dumb,
this, first of all, is just stupid. You know, I
don't like wearing my glasses. It's annoying. I don't like
contact lenses. But when I'm... nearsighted so I don't have
to worry about stuff too much in the home but
I don't wear my glasses in the home and you
have these glasses only to talk to your AI no
you need a consumer version of the hearing aids that
I have this the hearing I my hearing aids is
fantastic Like I preview clips. Which brand are these? These
are like some. No, no. Are these like the $3,000
ones I heard Mr. Wonderful talking about that go all
the way deep in your canal and you can't see
them? Yeah, but these are Jabra's, which is. Oh, Jabra.
Yeah. I remember Jabra. No, they're not cheap, but I
mean Facebook could make them cheap. Yes, they go in
your hearing canal. You only would. I mean, there's all
kinds of versions that can just you put it in
your ear. And if you want, it can play music
and it has high fidelity. Jabra knows how to do
that. You know, there's different different settings, different scenarios. Or
you can just have it, you know, just be neutral.
And it's the same as just listening. Can you be
like Spider-Man and hear across the room on somebody's conversation?
Yes. And I've been in a mall. And I've turned
up. I have a setting that is outdoor and you
can you has compressors and limiters and expanders in there.
And if I turn my head just a little bit
so the microphone is focused, I can hear someone across
the mall what they're talking about. But more importantly. Now,
I'm not interested in it personally, but if you –
when we were walking in Rotterdam, and I put on
my Google Maps, and then Google Maps is just going,
turn left on this street. Okay. Okay. Love it. And
you don't have to keep the phone up to your
ear. And it has microphones so you can talk back
to it if you really feel like it. Now, the
Muse thing doesn't talk to you. Thank God. Not yet.
Well, if you want. So yesterday, we've had a real.
Do you have Sonos? I do have Sonos, yes. So
ever since the new Sonos app came out, the thing
just sucks. They've been trying to fix it. Well, they
fixed it with a new CEO. It's still not fixed.
And then so if I'm in the bedroom and I
want to turn the speakers on the bedroom, it's you
know, the speaker doesn't show up in the app. I
got to go into the kitchen. I got it. It's
a mess. So I said, Muse, can you connect to
my Sonos? Why? Sure. It wasn't that easy because I
had to get a developer account, but it walked me
through it. So I got a, basically it wrote a
little app that controls my Sonos. Did you realize what
you just said? Yes. You wrote an app to control
your Sonos. You're fixing Sonos' software. I'm anthropomorphizing myself. I
love it. But... So it works. So it works anywhere.
I just tell the bot, okay, turn this on. And
I can say what song I want or what playlist
I want. But also, if you want, it can talk.
over your sonos and so i was sending messages to
tina you know but that's a pretty good voice which
i'd really love to have for some of my other
stuff is like just train it on your voice and
then make it like 10 more robotic and you can
be like her servant uh those aren't that's not it's
decent but not that great but anyway I'm saying the
glasses, get off of it, Zuckerberg. It looks stupid. Stupid.
And here's the thing. Check the calendar, dude. Risky Business
was in the 80s with your Ray-Bans. Here's the thing.
There are like... These guys have been skating to this
puck for a long time. Everybody thinks the glasses and
AR is going to be the big win. And there's
a couple of use cases that are really good. The
one you described of like, I'm driving or I'm walking
around a city and it's giving me instructions, etc. That
one is an obvious layup. The other one is when
you're with kids and you want to. you know, make
videos, having it on your glasses actually gives you the
perfect perspective. And when you take a phone out and
start taking pictures of kids, they change their behavior. So
when you're doing it covertly, you get the natural behavior.
So people like that. The piece that they really want
to work is to have a heads up display like
the Terminator, at the world and you're walking down a
street you can see oh this is a bookstore oh
this bookstore has these three books that you would like
based on your history you've read these science fiction novels
this one you should go buy that's what their holy
grail is that's like the my fridge my fridge is
gonna order milk when i'm out and then it'll be
here just in time by the way by the way
So I have one rule in our home. If there's
something we use every day of our life, let's try
and get the best we can afford. And so that
goes for mattress. It goes for shoes. And it goes
for food, beef. And when we bought this house, it
had a refrigerator. It was 11 years old. You know,
the ice maker broke. And so we're like, okay, we're
going to get a new fridge. And we just got
a GE. And so these two dudes come in and
saw it. I couldn't help but hear it. Dire straits
in my head, money for nothing, these refrigerators and the
color TVs. Canceled. These guys look like it too. Sweet
guys. And so they said, do you want the Wi-Fi?
I said, Wi-Fi? What does this thing need to be
hooked up for Wi-Fi for? Even your water filters. Well,
for the filter scan, but also… Software upgrades. I'm like,
no, but I don't want software upgrades. But I look
in the fine print. What it's really for is it
can then communicate with my local electricity provider. And when
just like Nest, when there's too much demand, it'll shut
down my refrigerator. I'm like, no, I don't want this.
That's hilarious. So I don't know about these glasses and
all that. The holy grail is done. I've tried all
of them. There is something nice about the open ear
experience when you're listening to music or a podcast that
– like when you go for a hike around the
ranch and you can still hear nature and so you're
not blocking out the sound you're kind of
having it pass through, which I'm sure your Jabra hearing
aids do too. But that's kind of a nice experience.
And I have the latest ones, the latest Ray-Bans, and
they're getting close. I think in another – two years,
these things will be light enough, have enough power, and
then people will like them. You don't have the face
for Ray-Bans. I can't believe that looks good on you.
No, I don't think anything looks good on me particularly.
You've got a baby face. You don't want to obscure
your face with the big Ray-Bans or any kind of
glasses. If you don't need them, it just applies. pain
in the butt and then you got to charge your
glass like the hearing aids yeah you know at night
I put them in a case they charge up and
you know Perfect. And I need him. I love that.
I think we're going to all be superhuman in our
perception. Like I'm going to get this lens replacement therapy
because I use like two X readers now when I'm
reading on my laptop and I'm reading a book. You
can replace your lenses and have 2015. Like, you can
have better than 20-20 vision. And then with your ears,
you could have better than human, you could have superhuman
hearing. This is, like, going to get really interesting that
we can be superhuman in our, even in our later
years, or just be... reverse or freeze the degradation of
our senses. That's kind of crazy when you think about
it. Blitz in the troll room says, just get the
brain implants, you cucks. I mean, it's going to be
cottage. I'm sure you're on the list. I just want
to live to 100 and be able, I just want
to ski until I'm 100. Nah, you're on. If we
can get this going. Tell me you're on. Elon's list
for a Neuralink implant. I know you are. No. No,
I have not. Yes, you want it. You love it.
You love it. You want it. No. you want me
to want it i don't want it i don't want
to mess with my brain i'm old school you're the
canary in the coal man my brother you're perfect for
this kind of stuff yeah implant i would not want
to special donation i think that's going to cause another
type of psychosis in people like to to have too
much bandwidth coming in is just not oh we're already
there what talking about? We're already there. In fact, with
doomscrolling, we are, yes. But if anything, my Muse robot,
I just call it what it is, my Muse robot
has reduced bandwidth. It has reduced the amount of stuff
I've got to look at. It has. I've hooked up
my Godcaster email, which is for business only. My Godcaster
calendar, which is for business only. And it's reduced the
bandwidth. Like, okay, it's sorting through things. It's not like
a huge company, but there's stuff going on. And it's
very helpful to me. It's actually giving me more time
to just chill and not do anything. It's not going
to replace me. I don't see that. It's all in
how you use this technology. Absolutely. If you create 20
reports that come to you all day long, every hour…
Not going to help you. It's going to make it
worse. And if you say, you know what, just let
me know every 48 hours what's in the customer support
loop and do the best you can in answering them
and be the front line of defense and triage my
email box, it can be extraordinary for you. Email is
so broken. Okay, now let's go back to the issue
that is going to play out for the next 50
days, which is data centers, and it's a huge political.
issue and because No one is really in the media
is honest about what these things can or can't do.
And, you know, Tristan Harris is talking asteroids. It's going
to be a huge political play out. And it's a
lot more dangerous that people vote for Tallarico because he's
apparently against data centers than it is – A new
poll shows about two-thirds of Americans oppose data centers being
built in their communities. That's according to The Economist and
YouGov. And Pierre Scott Newman says Virginia leads the nation
in data centers with several hundred in operation. Casey Hatch
lives near a data center in Loudoun County, Virginia, one
of the many supporting the artificial intelligence. She works in
IT and even uses AI in her job. But she's
also become an active member in a grassroots bipartisan group
that opposes data centers. She spoke recently with a cousin
who doesn't usually share their politics and found common ground
over the data center issue. We couldn't have this conversation
five years ago, me and him, and suddenly we were
on the same page. Virginia's Governor Abigail Spanberger campaigned on
qualified support for data center expositioning. But just last week,
she signed an executive order seeking to limit their development.
This is a fun topic that crosses all kinds of
groups. The biggest questions I get are, how's this going
to affect our water bill? How's this going to affect
our light bill? What noise level is this going to
be on our people? Across America, religious leaders are now
weighing in on the data center development debate. In this
small neighborhood in Indiana, plans to establish a more More
than 13-acre AI data center are underway. Earlier this year,
Indianapolis City Council voted to approve rezoning measures that allows
Metroblocks, an L.A.-based company, to build the facility. Despite backlash
from the neighborhood's faith leaders, Reverend Fitzhugh Lyons is part
of a coalition of pastors in that city. They are
against the data center being developed in Martindale-Brightwood. a historically
black neighborhood. Metro Blocks did not respond to our request
for comment, but some faith leaders say they see the
developments as a godsend. We've been blessed. God has given
us a great gift. He has sent the world to
us. There you go. Oh, dang. It's like God gave
us the data center. He did. He did. He did.
In Louisiana, Meta is building what they say is their
largest data center yet. They say the AI development will
bring roughly $50 billion to the Richland Parish region. But
not everyone in the area is on board. Local media
spoke to residents who say the development has impacted their
air and water quality. In a statement to NBC News,
Metta said in part, they're investing in new energy and
water infrastructure that benefits everyone. supporting local schools and helping
small businesses in the area, as well as paying in
full for the energy and water we use. Environmentalist Marcus
Cole is organizing director of Georgia Interfaith Power and Light.
He says the promises of millions or even billions of
dollars in revenue is not enough for a community to
support a development. But so often what we see is
There aren't community benefits agreements. The communities aren't consulted at
the beginning, middle, or even the end of the process.
I think folks understand rightfully so that that's not true
partnership. Back in Indianapolis, Reverend Lyons says he believes his
small community is not the only one that should be
concerned. We need to put some regulation around this data
center. Because everyone, and I do mean everyone, is subject
to having a data center right next door to you.
You know, if your city council doesn't consult you, then
that's the problem. Yeah, and you're not involved. If you
don't look at your local newspaper or talk to anybody.
Or don't subscribe to your local newspaper or don't vote.
This is all stuff that's on you. right? This is
on the local community because you can extract anything you
want from these data center providers. They will give you
whatever they want. They're making so much money. The opportunity
is so huge. You can negotiate. You can renegotiate. They'll
just give you what you want. Free electricity. Get rid
of your real estate taxes. I agree. Does Chamath over...
you any money? I don't think so. Why? Because you
should collect because he's going to lose his shirt on
that data center project he's in. I mean, who knows?
He's going to lose his shirt on that. No, it's
never going to work. Never going to work for him.
You know, I haven't kept track. He hasn't talked about
it much recently. Exactly. I think a lot of them
are speculative. You know, you get like some land and
then you got to go find customers. You got to
find chips. Everything is like on the come kind of
situation. On the come? Yeah, like on the comeback, you
got to like, what's the term? Like speculation, I think
is the right term. It doesn't even make sense. I
mean, the whole – so building on what we're talking
about, I think Apple, but also AMD and a couple
other chip companies, they're going to make your phone powerful.
And you're not going to need the data center. It's
so obvious to me. I got it from you, from
the data center to the desktop, from the... And that's
going to go straight to your phone. I mean, it
just seems maybe that's why they're also incessant about making
hardware devices is they know that ultimately that's where it
lands because I don't need an Ubuntu device. virtual machine
i got them here at home i'm running everything on
quen 3.8 i don't need their stuff everything is going
to be commoditized so quickly like it always has been
and you know i wouldn't be surprised if like claude
open ai facebook i think facebook like launches a phone
now and just says like here's your phone yeah it's
just You know, the bot. It's just a slab. It's
just a slab, exactly. Like, here's your glass slab. Yeah.
Talk to it, and it just gives you everything you
want in your life. But yeah, this is all going
to get commoditized. It's already happening, and the Frontier Labs
are going to have significant headwinds against them, and I
think that's probably why they're spiraling right now. Anthropic pushed
their IPO out a month, it looks like, and then
OpenAI is going to be next year. So these guys
are very peculiar in how they run these businesses because
they are supposed to be stewards of the shareholders in
the company. Now, if I was a shareholder in these
companies… I would be livid that they are shooting themselves
in the foot before the IPO. Like, can we just
act normal for six months and get this IPO out?
So tell me, why are they? Are they are they
really crazy? I mean, is there a strategy here? You
know, some people are reading a strategy into it and
saying, like, they want regulatory capture. Other people are looking
at it and saying these people have been one-shotted. They're
not thinking clearly. And then other people are saying, no,
I think they sincerely have looked into the abyss. They've
looked into the black slab. And what they've seen has
scared the bejesus out of them. And they're reacting without
a filter. The bottom line is, if you're a shareholder
in these companies, you would be like, you would be
going to Dario on the team and saying, please stop
talking. Just stop talking. And then anytime anybody asks you
about safety, say, our first, second, and third priorities are
safety, safety, and safety. We will not release any products
that are unsafe. the end and just like if you
need to slow something down like zuckerberg did he didn't
he held muse back like three months in order to
make sure it wouldn't go a wall so that's all
you have to say that's it you're done Now, this
could unwind the trade, though. Wouldn't this be like the
craziest science fiction ever that right as these things are
hitting true... super intelligence i think they're kind of artificial
general intelligence but they're clearly generally there's no way to
measure that their hand their handy tools they they do
their robots they're clankers they're great at what they do
you know if if you know what you're doing and
and Muse is putting a happy little goblin face on
it, which and has set it up so it's not
going to try and make you kill yourself. It's you
know, it's not dangerous. It's a great tool. This intelligence
thing. Give me a break. No. No. The way I
say – the definition I'll give general intelligence is it's
– At any task a human does, like on some
regular basis, it does it as well. And it seems
to be hitting that shrine, whether it's chess or whether
it's design, whether it's writing code. It's doing it as
well as humans. And then superintelligence, if you want to
use that term, I know some people find it offensive,
is like it can solve problems that humans don't even
define. It can find… It can solve problems humans cannot
solve, and it can find problems humans cannot define. No,
that will happen when we get to – Sure. So
we're at general right now. No, no, no. Think about
this. There's no way you can argue we're not a
general intelligence now. It definitely can do everything a human
can do. I take offense to the word intelligence. There's
no intelligence. It's just – - We call it skills.
- Skills, skills, skills. - Okay, so it has general
skills. - Skills, yes, I'm good with skills. - So
it can do any skill that a human can do.
If you were to apply it to that skill for,
I don't know, 30 days, it can do any skill
a human can do. I think we're kinda at that
point. So it's just a matter of applying it to
a skill. So if we're at that point and these
things are about to IPO, And then they have the
IPOs go off the rails because they've terrorized everybody that
they can't control them. And then that gives them the
inability to have the capital. in order to finish the
build out and the whole thing unravels and we have
a recession like the great financial crisis in 2008. That's
a possibility right now, by the way. I don't think
it's the 90% case, but I think it's like 10%
that these guys are going to unwind. Now, hey, it's
Tristan Kalkanis, everybody. Tristan, 10%. No, I'm not in a
panic about AI taking over. I think they're going to
actually unwind. wind the trade with their... panicking. They may
unwind the trade where people go, you know what, I'm
not willing to pay a billion dollars for this company.
I don't think we should take it public. And then
they're going to be like, okay, where do I get
the $100 billion to pay my – and then more
force majeures happen, more data centers get shut down, and
then the technology goes sideways for five years. It's kind
of crazy what's going on right now. Let's just call
these things what they are. They're slaves. This is my
slave. I'm going to call it a slave from now
on. This is my slave. It does what I tell
it to do. Sometimes it's a good slave. I'm going
to call it Toby. I'm going to call it Toby.
Toby. I'm going to call it Toby. Oh, that's dark.
That's dark. All right. Let's just talk about the state
visit, which was overshadowed by super intelligence and all kinds
of nonsense. This was President Xi. and the press just
thought this was worthless. What is your gut as this
relationship plays out and how does it compare to those
between past American presidents and Chinese leaders? Well, my gut
says it's good when leaders from Beijing and Washington talk.
I'm glad they're talking. It's
Better than a confrontation. It's better than a new Cold
War. But I'm mostly struck by the disconnect between all
the pageantry that you just talked about and the substantive
achievements that, That are advancing the interests of the American
people. Heavy on the pageantry, light on the deliverables, as
we used to call them when I worked in the
government, right? Right. I mean, let's think about it. How
many presidents have met at the tarmac with a red
carpet leaders from China or the Soviet Union or Russia?
Zero. Never has that happened before. Zero. President Trump has
already done that twice in the last two years. Second,
if you listen to the language, Trump just can't find
the nicest words. He's stumbling over himself to find nicer
words to talk about. The general secretary of the Communist
Party of China. And contrast that to the way he
talks about our allies, contrast that to the way he
talks about the prime minister of Canada. Just shocking to
me and in my view, not in America's national interest.
See, this is why I think Trump doesn't care, because
he knows we've got to work. China's not up to
kill us. We're their customer. They're not going to kill
us for any reason whatsoever. But he's in the hospitality
business. He's going to hold your chair. You're going to
get a little chocolate on your pillow at night. That's
what he does. Whoa, but he didn't. He's literally, I
think he'll be his biggest. What is his biggest? What
is his largest focus right now in the second term?
It's to build a thousand person ballroom. Like, that's all
he can talk about is a ballroom. He literally is
in the hospitality business. He took Xi to see the
new… Ballroom? Yeah. With like a construction hat on? Did
they go put construction hats on? There was no tape.
I didn't see any tape of them actually visiting the
construction zone. When you come to my house, I'm going
to say, hey, Jason, this is my... My garage, it
has space for three cars because that's what the, you
know, and this is where my flying car will go.
And I'll show you the studio, you know. Yeah, of
course, that's what you do if you're a good host.
But now he was supposed to yell at him and
tell him, you're no good. You got slaves and Riggers.
But then third, just as you went through that list,
let's talk about that a little bit. Let's go through
the list. Iran, the most important thing President Trump wants
to do is end the war in Iran. He and
his government announced D-Day with sanctions. The number one trading
partner with Iran is China. Nothing. No sanctions, no agreement
to the best. Do these nutjobs think that that's not
discussed over cigars and cognac in the back room? I
mean, it's pretty – yeah, why would they be discussing
that with the media anyway? I'm sure there are important
discussions going on outside of the – of the state
dinner, but I don't think that necessarily has to be
public. I think it's great that Trump gets along with
dictators who normally are at odds with us. The fact
that Kim Jong-un is obsessed with Trump and Putin loves
him and she loves him, that's great. Keep talking. That's
what diplomacy is about. Yes. If you're talking, you're talking,
you're talking. You're not fighting. The chances of you going
to war go down. Part of the reason we went
to war with Iran is we weren't talking to them.
We didn't have great negotiations or open, and we still
don't, and we still can't resolve this thing. It's great
that he and she are talking to each other. I
don't think she's getting over on us at this point,
and you're right. They need us as a customer. And,
you know, if we start the remanufacturing of America and
same thing in Mexico, we can start making stuff in
India like the iPhone is being made in India right
now. The country that has got a major challenge is
not the United States. We're doing great. We keep building
great companies. Anthropic and OpenAI didn't exist 20 years ago.
These are new companies. We keep creating the world's best
companies, period, full stop. And they have to chase us.
We still have the innovation. We are still the destination.
nation, everybody wants to go, despite what we're doing with
the borders, etc. Everybody still wants to come here. And
yeah, they have to fast follow us and sell us
stuff. If they lose us as a customer, they will
have massive instability in their country. If you get to
20% unemployment, 15 to 20% unemployment, that's when people start
riding in the streets. That's their biggest fear. Maybe something
will happen today. Nothing. Trade, nothing changed. Just kicking the
can down the road. Russia, a big sanctions bill was
passed. The president signed it. Gives them all this power
to pressure China, to pressure Russia. Nothing on that. And
then on some other issues, I just want to remind
you. What? Oh, that was the clip. I'm sorry. What
about economic D-Day that they warned? Where's that? Where's that?
It's not there. The number one trading partner, if you
want to pressure the mullahs in Tehran, is China. And
they've done zero about that. Also, reminder, you know, they
also talked about President Trump gave a big, I don't
know if you guys covered it or not, he gave
this big speech talking about Chinese interference in American elections.
What did he do to push back on that? Nothing.
And then some smaller issues. You know, there's an American
scholar. I know him, by the way, personally. Min Zin
is his name. He's from the University of California, Berkeley.
He's been wrongfully detained. Keep him there. Keep him in
China. I applaud that the State Department designate him as
a wrongly detained American citizen. But I haven't heard his
words at all. I haven't heard his name at all
in this summit. So I'm glad they're talking. I wish
they would be talking about things more of substance that
are important to the American people. Midterms, midterms, midterms. This
is the former ambassador to Russia, Michael McFaul. And so
he has an agenda. We've made great strides, very positive
for both countries. Thank you very much, and we appreciate
the fair coverage. It's been very fair. We appreciate it.
The president and I are like two people that's charting
the course for the great shape of China-U.S. relations. When
the president visited China in May, we agreed on the
visions. of building a constructive China-US relationship of strategic stability.
This time, we've agreed to add new substance to it,
that the relationship will be a constructive one of strategic
stability on the basis of respect, fairness, and reciprocity. So
from this one, we can see that the process prospects
for this relationship will get more brighter. I still believe
ARC is the way. Have you ever heard the acronym
ARC? No. What is this? America, Russia, China. Oh, yeah.
I mean, I think Russia's fading in importance, their economy
is just not as significant as it once was. But
it's definitely China, Saudi, the Middle East, UAE and the
United States. That's what I think. Well, the only reason
Russia's economy is hurting is because... Europe won't buy their
oil, their gas. uh we blew up the pipeline i'm
sure i'm sure i'm sure we did that i'm sure
we did that which is not nice deep by the
way it was only like 200 feet below ground it
was like hmm no it was it wasn't a nice
thing to do but they had already been cut off
from from europe you know the The globalists of the
world have always wanted Russia for their stuff. They have
oil and gas up the wazoo. That's why they've always
wanted Russia. And they'll do anything to get it. Yeah,
the good news in all of this is nuclear is
what China is massively investing in. And then the United
States with solar and batteries. When I go to the
Middle East, they're always on a very specific plan. We
have 30 years. from now until 2050, 2060, to take
our petro economy and make it something else. We have
to move off of this economy to a new economy.
That's why you see this crazy investments coming out of
Saudi, UAE. They'll invest in... They're exploring investing in anything.
They'll invest in golf. They'll invest in sports. Oh, hold
on. Hold on. They'll invest in real estate. You, me,
and Brunetti, our AI movie studio. Trust me. That's a
lot of the movies. I think this Paramount deal is
being funded by a lot of money from that region.
So if you want to think about who's going to
have the biggest impact on the future, if you have…
A series of countries that can move very quickly because
they're monarchies and they can just do top-down movements. And
they're small populists. They're, you know, Saudis, like 30 million
people, UAEs, a couple of million people. They can actually
move very quickly. They can move capital places, and they've
westernized massively. They're moving towards the west at a pace
that you would not believe. It is wild. When you
go to the Middle East, why are you going there?
So I have a partnership with the Saudis. What? What?
Yeah. I... I have something called Founder University, which is
how to create companies, like a 12-week course. And I
do it in Saudi, Japan, and the United States. And
so I partner with that. Oh, hold on a second.
Yeah. You need me as a guest speaker. Absolutely. Yeah.
Yeah. Well, I mean, and then the issue is I
haven't been able to do it in Saudi because of
this war for a year, but I basically three years
ago decided I would start going there because I had
no experience. But you can go to Saudi Arabia. I
don't have that. You're just afraid. You're afraid of getting
bombed, but you can go. The state. No, I am
going to go in November currently planning. But right now,
the State Department is saying don't go outside of Riyadh.
So put me put me on the put me on
stage, coach. Put me in. Come on. You should. You
should. It's good to visit. I've been visiting there for
four years and the change every year is incredible. And,
you know, if you. Our State Department and the entire
independent of political party has put the edict out to
the entrepreneurial community, etc. Build relationship fabrics, build businesses with
the Middle East, because then that – We'll have them
become westernized and we'll have the partnership as opposed to
say partnerships with China. Right. Where do you want the
Middle East as this major economic player in the 21st
century? Where do you want them leaning? And that was
what convinced me to get involved or just at least
get educated over there. And so I don't have them
as investors right now. But I am. doing this course
where I'm like helping people build companies. And it's been
very interesting because there's a lot of entrepreneurs there. And
a lot of entrepreneurs from Europe and India, Philippines, et
cetera, are basing their companies in Dubai, Saudi, Abu Dhabi,
Doha. They're deciding to base their companies in there for
tax treatment, for investment, et cetera. So they're going to
be like key player in the – future or er
to a certain extent well the only thing i can
think of with this partnership ui and brunetti are going
to put together because i'm just going to force this
here here because brunetti brunetti i'm telling you brunetti kind
of he had it half right I think the future
of entertainment, then you showed it to me. You sent
me some links this morning. So people who are using,
what is that thing called that you can buy? Opus
5.5. No, no, not Opus. Runway. Pixel. Runway. Runway. So
I think the way it's going to work is people
are going to. invest some money in runway credits, write
a script. It all comes down to writing and the
ideas, obviously. Then you create your movie, you put it
on X, value for value, people will send you X
money. That's the future. And then, you know, say, hey,
I want to do another one, but I need more
credits, man, need more credits. And people will pre-fund it.
They'll pre-fund it. And because some of that stuff was
good. That zombie movie. Holy cow. Yes, this is... People
are connecting their Claude to Runway, and I guess Claude
is good at creating the instructions and then You know,
runway is great at creating the visuals, but I sent
you a couple of them. There was one that was
like make a Netflix documentary. Yeah, it was great. Smug,
smart female host who was speaking like quips the whole
way. And it was like, it was good. My Lord.
Yeah, it was very good. Yeah, it's starting to cross
the uncanny valley for me where it takes me. you
know, three, four, five seconds to be like, okay, hold
on. Let's get focused. Is this real or not real?
No, you can't even tell anymore. You can't even tell.
Well, you could tell. You used to be able to
tell in under a second. Like, literally be like, okay,
that is six fingers. Now it's like, okay, we don't
have six fingers anymore. And, oh, yeah, the voice is
in a tell. The voice is comparable. Okay, how am
I going to figure out? Although the fact that her
name was Imogen, that's like, okay, I'm done. I'm done.
No one names their child Imogen unless you're a –
I have a friend who's named their child Imogen. Must
be royalty. Only royalty. Their daughters, Imogen and Portia. that's
another one porsche i remember the first porsche i met
like after the car no p-o-r-t-i-a oh okay porsche porsche
somebody made like this incredible um with mid-journey at a
mood board and they came up with this like banger
audio track i sent you that was like escaping the
permanent underclass and It was like had every reference to
Waymo's and all the latest stuff. And it's just incredible.
Every two or three weeks, it makes a jump. Yeah.
And the jump is. How many credits do you need
to make those five minutes from runway? Yeah. I don't
know, but it's probably the low hundreds of dollars. Really?
I'm guessing right now, but I think it's probably well
under $1,000. And it's going to get 90% cheaper a
year because the AI is now teaching the AI how
to make it more affordable. So every… they do another
version it's been distilled down to make it more affordable
make it more refined this is going to accelerate and
I don't think we're going to be able to tell
the difference that's why I sent you that Katzenberg post
yeah well it wasn't a post it was like a
manifesto it was too long yes So next time you
speak to Elon You may talk to him from time
to time Tell him, first of all I said years
ago That he was going to do money And he
did, so it wasn't that hard of a prediction For
me actually
But I just tell them I love the X money
DDoS. That is such a genius marketing move. So people
are just – Well, yeah, I don't know what's going
on here. Well, if I do – I'm getting money
sent to me. He's got his bot sending everybody money.
Of course, that's what you do. No, this is what's
– Oh, please. What's happening is there is a –
He's sending it to J-Cow. So J-Cow says, look at
this money. I'm going to give it away to someone
else on X. Yes, that's exactly what's happening. It's a
great idea. No – There, what happens is, okay, here's
what's happening, just so people understand. There was a DDoS
attack this weekend. There are some, what are they called,
meme coins. So these people who have meme coins, we'll
name them after people who have a lot of followers.
So somebody at some point made a meme coin about
me, and then they take fees, and then And they
did it for like a bunch of other people who
have a million followers on X. Then they get fees
for like the transactions around that coin for that person.
So if you... retweeted or whatever you have an incentive
because you get some portion of the trading fees just
like melania coin or like any other scam like any
other scam and i'm like i'm not participating in any
scam but then this because i turned on x money
yeah then it started yeah And I guess I the
default is anybody can send you money. This I'm not
going to say the name of the account, but this
account that does these meme coins sent me. I'm looking
six thousand dollars, three thousand dollars. Wow. Twenty three thousand
dollars, whatever that is, like thirty thousand dollars over the
weekend. and i'm like i thought it was the creator
program remember like they for content creators they split money
like youtube does on x yeah and i was like
wait no it's not that it's this scam meme coin
thing is sending me money that are my gas fees
or whatever fees, transaction fees for it. So I was
like, if you send me money, I'm just going to
give it away as quick as possible. So I just
started giving it away to everybody on the internet as
fast as possible. You're such a mensch. What I was
going to say is send it to Adam Curry. That's
what I did. I did. I said a little bit.
No, I did. I saw that. I saw that. Thank
you. I always put you guys on the top of
this. I want to support JCD's family. It's a genius.
I still think it's a marketing thing. It's a genius
idea. Yeah. Yeah. You can just send money to almost
any... with an X account. It's kind of chaotic. Now
I'm like, am I paying tax on this? I'm getting
a 1099? That's the question. This is not like it's
$2,000 or $3,000 or under the gifting thing. It has
to be. It's the same way PayPal does it. Over
$600, you're going to get some paperwork from it. It
has to be. Paperwork from some fool-gazy fool-gaz? crypto account?
No, no, no. X money will have to report over
$600 and they'll issue that report. By the way, here's
the other thing. My account is stuck at 99.7 thousand
people. I cannot, and I believe that as a limiter.
Dvorak believed it too. In the name of John C.
Dvorak. What is going on? 99, you have 99.7. I've
been at 99 point something for years. I cannot get
over 100,000. It's artificially blocked or limited. Yeah. So just
tell Elon to take that off. Hold on, I'll just
tweet. Follow Adam Curry and let's see if we can
get him. It will not go over $100,000. It won't.
It won't. It won't. I'm telling you. There's some block.
There's some block on it. Are you being shadow banned?
No. Maybe you did something to the libs previously. No.
Maybe. I don't know. I mean, I got an automatic
checkmark that I never asked. Is it because I don't
pay for my blue checkmark? Is that it? You have
to pay to get over $100? No, you pay for
your blue checkmark. You have a blue checkmark now. Maybe
somebody gifted it to you. Yeah, because I'm the podfather.
Hello. Maybe. That's why I got the checkmark. Connected via
Netherlands Android app. Netherlands Android Optima. Well, no. I'm looking
at your profile page. It tells you how the person's
connecting to the thing. Well, I'm not. I'll let you
know if it's... I'm in Texas. I downloaded the app
in America. Based upon... I think it's based upon your
average of the last 30 days. Well, it's wrong. It's
wrong. I don't like the app, honestly. I don't like
it. I just use the web browser. I don't like
the app. It's an addiction. I highly recommend. Well, I
know you're addicted. I know Brunetti's addicted. I tried to
get you on a text group. I get... crickets i'm
like i'll just create it i'm on the text group
no but you didn't say anything but i put it
in a dm dm group on x and like oh
here i am it's like that's sad You know, social
media is like a really bad addiction. I don't have
any other addictions in my life. I mean, except for
skiing in Japan. And arguably, that's a good one. But
yeah, well, you need to meet you need to meet
Dame Astrid and Sir Mark next time you go. Oh,
Japan? Yeah. Do you know who they are? I might
have heard their names, but they're in Tokyo? Yeah. So
look up Ditham Klein Architects. Oh, okay. You look them
up, you'll be like, holy crap. They've designed the emperor's
library. They designed the... The Fender Store. I mean, they
do huge, huge buildings. They do office buildings. They're doing
– Klein Ditham? Yeah, Klein Ditham, yeah. Oh, wow. Look
at this. This is Ginza. Yeah. So Sir Mark is
a super nerd and he really would love to meet
you. This is incredible. And he'll take you to places
where you and you think, you know, Japan. Believe me,
he'll take you places you've never been. I love it.
Yes, definitely intro me on the back channel. Yeah, yeah.
Let me know. I'll intro you on the back channel.
I'll put you in the text group. Oh, wait, I'm
sorry. No, no, whatever. WhatsApp. It's all in Japan. It's
all WhatsApp. But these are some gorgeous buildings in Japan.
It's very interesting, the architecture there. Ginza place. Look at
that. I am so taken by Japan. I know the
building they built here, Ginza Place. Yeah, I've seen it
before. Yeah, I'm telling you. Incredible. He's British. He's Swiss
Italian. I think. I mean, anybody who's like an entrepreneur
or like in any way... design forward or entrepreneurial or
artistic. You just go to Japan and your brain explodes.
You're like, oh my God, there's a perfect society in
the world and here's how it operates. You talk about
getting one-shotted by AI, you get one-shotted by Japan. The
parking is a little tight in Japan. No, that's because
you You know what? The train, everybody just takes the
trains and the trains were all set up very thoughtfully
in a circle. And then over each station, they told
them build giant buildings above the station where people's offices
and apartments will be. So if you planned it that
way, you could just go down to the bottom of
your building, get on there, and go around in a
circle and get to any place in the city within
20 minutes. It's bonkers how efficient it is. And then
because of that, nobody really drives. So when you do
take an Uber, it's like zip, zip, zip. I love
those. They don't have this problem now, but I love
those cabs. where they have the handle in the front
to open the back door. You ever seen that? Yeah,
yeah, yeah. And if you get out, if you try
and close the door, they yell at you, no, no,
this is my head. No, no, no. What you have
to see is the Toyota Alphard, A-L-P-H-A-R-D, Alphard. This is
like the luxury coach of Japan. And... It literally, like,
every Uber there is an Alford. You know, anybody who's,
like, a CEO gets driven in these. Yeah. And like
you're saying, the doors open automatically, and you have these
beautiful, like, captain's chairs, and they just zip you around
town. It's like a dream. Oh. Oh, it's gorgeous. Alfred.
So we're trying to get one in the United States.
They won't sell them here. So why don't you go
live in Japan? Leave America, you traitor. Why don't you
just go there? Well, you need to have a plan.
You need a plan to have a plan. Well, I
escaped California to Texas and then you're a good move.
Good move. Good move. Well, and then you have to
have an escape plan from Texas, and that is, for
me, Tokyo or Singapore or, I guess, Dubai. We don't
need this. We're going to be here for a million
years. What if the socialists take over? I mean, it's
completely impossible. Have you seen the amount of guns we
have? See? I mean, I know the amount of guns
I have. We have a decent amount. That's what I
always tell people. I'm like, you can bring socialism to
Texas. I don't think it's going to work out too
good for you. It will not. It will not. It
will not. Yeah. Hey, brother. Thank you so much for
joining us again today. It's always fun. I know we're
AI heavy, but I mean, this is what's going on.
Well, we've got to talk about it. And you're on
the... world right now. You're right on the cusp, man.
You're on the cusp. See? It's on the cusp. There
you go. There it is. I just, you guys are
doing this thing for me, and I don't have this.
Shout out to Dana Burnetti. Yes. Your neck and neck.
Amazing. Your neck and neck. Yeah, no, I mean, somebody's
got to be first and somebody's got to be second.
So congratulations for Dana. This worked to be improved, but
you'll get there, Dana. All right, everybody. He's good. There
he is. He's great on the show. Jason Calacanis, JCal,
sitting in once again on the best podcast in the
universe. Good show, everybody. Thank you so much. Take care,
brother. All right. Take care, brother. Talk to you soon.
We'll be right back with your value for value donations.
Calacanis. No agenda The pot father I don't care California
everybody. the mighty and powerful jason calicanis we thank him
for joining us and we want to thank you who
have supported us with your value returning it for the
value you receive on the show you can do that
with your time your talent or your treasure and uh
it's just always nice to see what people are doing
telling people out the show actually i i love all
the the x uh back and forth forth about who's
better. I think, let me see, still to come in
the month of October. uh andrew horowitz these are people
who ask me if they could be on the show
horowitz has already been making clips since last thursday i'm
like dude the it's not gonna work you're gonna have
to you have to do it the day before you
can't do clips a week in advance um it's funny
enough The Keeper also wants to come on the show
and do it with me. That would be interesting to
see how that goes. And I'm sure Dana Brunetti will
be back and we'll get Matt Long back on again.
It's going to be a hootenanny for sure. And so
that back now, just as an aside, none of these
people are auditioning for guests, for co-hosts, not a single
person. This is just friends hanging out, doing the show
with me. And it's it's certainly been a fun ride
so far. So you can help us by telling other
people about the show, by arguing about it on X.
That always helps. You can always do things like, I
don't know, give us some art for what happened to
the art on this. Oh, there it is. Now, I
let Dana Brunetti choose the artwork for episode 1906. We
came up with the title Name Drop. It wasn't the
best, but we really didn't have anything else, and we
didn't get any suggestions on the – oh, yeah, by
the way, Rob Dew as well, please. I want to
make sure everyone knows Rob Dew will be back. And
the art – Total cheesecake. JCD would have been proud.
Came from the one and only Francisco Scaramanga with the
peptide goo. All right. It is what it is. That's
what we chose. I'm sticking with it. Thank you all
so much. Of course, we thank everybody who supports us
with $50 or above shortlist today and people who donate
$200 or more. Not only do we guarantee, do I
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more guaranteed to read your note and you become an
executive producer. And today he finally makes it as an
executive producer with $500, Dana Brunetti. And he says, Jason
is a solid number two in the rotation of guest
hosts. He's getting better. Keep at it, champ. There you
go. It's a friendly competition. It's a coopetition. Nicholas Heron
comes in with 333.34. And so we have two, I
think, two final order of the ants that were stragglers.
He's from Indian Lake Estates in Florida. And he says,
greetings, Podfather. First, I'd like to send prayers to you
and the Dvorak family on the loss of the great
JCD. You know, I never get enough of people saying
that. Took me a few weeks after receiving the sad
news in the newsletter to start listening to the show
again and still haven't listened to the last week. Thank
you. Yes, I know it's Larry and Darren. Did a
very good pickup job in your absence as well. Please
accept my donation of 333.33 plus one penny for anybody
who might need it. It's good. You never know. Yes,
we are still supporting that. And that's in honor of
John. For my birthday this year, Sunday, September 27th, happy
birthday. I will have reached a half century mark and
couldn't think of a better gift for myself than a
second executive producership and membership in the order of the
ant on the best podcast in the universe. I've been
slacking on my end of show mixes and promise to
compose and send in a few new songs for you.
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Nicholas Herron in Lake Wales, Florida. Lake Wales. I've been
to Lake Wales. How about that? Very nice. I've been
to High Point Church. Sir Commodore Brennan, Perrysburg, Ohio, 33333.
He says he found no agenda because I grew up
watching JCD. I'd come home from school, turn on tech
TV and catch him on Silicon Spin. John was never
shy about asking for a donation and in his memory,
this felt like the perfect use of the read my
note segment. Banks in the U.S. rely on old third-party
platforms to manage their one-size-fits-all credit card rewards program. And
I know this because I've designed them for a national
bank. My startup, Voss Loyalty, V-O-S, changes the approach by
letting cardholders customize their rewards around what matters to them,
helping them build their own card and driving top-of-wallet behavior
for the bank. That's interesting. Couldn't you get my robot
to do that? If anyone in the no-agenda community invests
in early-stage companies or knows someone who does, Jason, he's
probably still on, I'd love to connect. You can reach
me at noagenda at vosloyalty.com. V-O-S-L-O-Y-A-L-T-Y.com. That's noagenda at vosloyalty.com.
No jingles, no karma. Just keep doing great work and
keep chasing your dreams. Sir Commodore Brennan of the Black
Swamp. Abraham American. in Vesalia, California. $250. Associate Executive Producership
for you, sir. In the morning, Adam and Noah Din
the Nation, please dedouche me as this is my first
donation and I've been a long time listener. You've been
dedouched. My college friend and long time listener, David Arelanis,
yes, he was on the last show, I think, with
the donations, hit me in the mouth. I started to
look for neutral takes slash perspectives, and David mentioned the
show to me. I've been hooked since. As I listened
to the most recent episode, I was reminiscing about how
David put me onto the show, and as I listened
to the last episode, hearing David's donation note come through
the speakers, I knew it was a sign I had
to donate. Adam and John, you have... You two have
been and were two of the main constants in my
life since then. I won't list it all, but my
life is a complete 180 from when I first started
listening in a very good way. Thanks for all you
both did together. And Adam, you continue to do. I
only wish I could have donated when John was still
around, but it's never too late to show my support
for the greatest podcast in the universe. I look forward
to supporting the show more in the future and the
commemorative coin you mentioned for John. No jingles, no karma.
Yes, I think Jay has this all set up. and
it will be in the next newsletter. So if you
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You'll hear all about it. Clueless Casting. I'm sorry, Baroness
Monica first in Drayton Valley, Alberta, 202.02. See what you
did there. It's been a while since my last donation.
My sincere condolences to John's family and friends. Belated happy
birthday, Adam. I would like to request Jobs Karma for
Ken. That's from Baroness Monica. Well, we happily comply. Jobs,
jobs, jobs, and jobs. Let's vote for jobs. You've got
karma. You've got karma. There's Clueless Casting in Bethlehem, Pennsylvania,
$200. ITM, thank you for the show. Missing JCD, but
enjoying the guest host so far. Oh, this sounds like
a threat. Well, not my first donation. It is my
first associate executive producer donation. Would you please de-douche me?
You've been de-douched. Oh. Shameless plug. I recently started a
YouTube channel for fun, at Clueless Casting, and when I
saw that I had 33 subscribers, well, I knew it
was time to donate to the show. If you're into
fishing, want some laughs, gaffes, and goofs, please check out
at Clueless Casting on YouTube or Facebook. The only fishing
channel on YouTube that makes the local fish feel completely
safe. Please give me prayers that I can catch fish.
Thank you for your attention to this matter, says Clueless
Casting. And let me get your prayers jingle. Here we
go. Where is it? Yes, got it. You've got it.
Prayers. That was easy. And there's Linda Lupatkin from Castle
Rock, Colorado with $200. And she says that AI can
write your resume. Yep, your robot can do that. The
problem is it can write everyone else's as well. Linda
helps professionals and executives figure out what makes them different,
what makes them valuable, and turns that value into a
resume that gets results. Go to ImageMakersInc.com. That's ImageMakersInc with
a K. And Linda Liu, Duchess of Jobs and writer
of winning resumes, because your resume should do more. then
just look good. - Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs. Let's
vote for jobs. - You saw, comma. - By the
way, I completely forgot to do a, oops, where was
it? Completely forgot to do a troll count. Let me
see how J-Cal did. Oh, J-Cal, you did good, 1,083.
Ooh, not bad. Oh, awesome. Scotty K is in Lakeshores,
Minnesota. $200 associate executive producer, the last one, and says
in the morning to you, Adam and J. Cal and
the rest of Gitmo Nation. It's Scotty K here, your
AI whisperer. Adam. I believe I now qualify for night
status. King me. You know what I mean. A tomahawk
steak and a bottle of Angry Orchard hard cider will
do just fine. Thank you very much. You got it.
For those of you who haven't taken a look at
our stellar AI agent bot commander, what are you waiting
for? It's free. Thanks to the genius of the value
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With Bot Commander, you can create a new business or
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image and video creation, sales automation, a website builder, and
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of home features, too, that will help you get organized.
Way too much to cover here, so go to the
website, botcom.ai. That's botcom.ai, with a B, B-O-T-C-O-M.ai. By the
way, you can use free open source AI models or
any of the frontier models. Don't get locked into a
single AI provider. It wouldn't be prudent. Not at this
junk. Keep your data private and help decentralize AI. Jason,
hit me up, brother. This is far sexier than the
open craw, crock pot, or that constipation one. Metamuse all.
I'm all in. Remember, that's bot.com.ai with a B. Sayonara,
senors and senoritas, he says. And thank you very much.
Scotty K is the last of our executive and associate
executives. Thank you. Yes! Whoa! And the rest of our
list is pretty short. We do hit 8008 right away
with Kevin McLaughlin. He is the Archduke of Luna, lover
of America and boobs. And he says, save the Tadas.
October is Breast Cancer Awareness Month. Indeed it is. John
Alberini, $70.26. Les Tarkowski comes in with a small boob,
$60.06. Nathan Gwynn from Jackson, Tennessee, $52.72. Jennifer Williams from
Davy Crockett National Forest, $52.72. Says we'll always miss John,
but enjoying the rotating cast of guest hosts. Brad McDonald.
Mason, Ohio, that kicks off our 50s. It's just a
couple. Eric Timmer. Oh, thank you, Eric. Eric is the
one who gifted me the wonderful Asus computer. Really appreciate
it. I gave it a name. The name is Grace
because I feel like it was Grace that you gave
it. I really appreciate that. And he sends us $50.
And he says, from the provider of Compute ET, hi,
Thank you, brother. out of the show, anything that was
of value to you, just turn that into a number
and send it back. No Agenda Donations dot com. You
can even set up a recurring donation, any amount, any
frequency. No Agenda Donations dot com. It's a bad day,
bad day. And we have just one on the calendar,
and he happens to be celebrating today. He's halfway through
the century, 50 today. Nicholas Heron celebrates, and we say
happy birthday from everybody here at the best podcast in
the universe. And I think we have... the two stragglers,
the last two ever. Ever. Order of the Ant. Exactly.
Last two Order of the Ants ever. We are shutting
down the promotion. That's it. It's all over. It's done
with Nicholas Herron. And our second and final Order of
the Ant awardee is Sir Commodore Brennan. Congratulations to both
of you. You can go to knowagenteringz.com. Let us know
where to send that fine pen along with your official
certification, which comes with Burnt Edges. It is a beautiful
set and thank you both and thank everybody for joining
the official Order of the Ants. Order of the Ants.
And then the one night for today, I'm going to
just pull out my singular blade. Sir Scotty K, hop
on up here. Or actually, Scotty K, I should say.
You're not quite a sir yet. Thanks to your support
in the amount of $1,000 or more. I am very
proud to pronounce the case. The as, Sir Scotty K.,
the Royal AI Whisperer. For you, sir, by request, we
have a tomahawk steak and a bottle of Angry Orchard
Hard Cider along with your hookers and blow your rent
poison chardonnay. Of course, to go along with that, we
got some beer and blunts. Ruben S. Wilman and Rosé,
geishas and sake, vodka, vanilla, bong hits and bourbon, sparkling
cider and escorts, ginger ale and gerbils. We've got breast
milk and pablum. And as always at the round table
for all to enjoy, we have mutton and mead. So
you also go to noagendarings.com and let me know your
ring size. Send that off. JL take care of you.
Get the right ring. It is the beautiful signet ring.
So that means you get some wax to seal your
important correspondence and also a certificate of authenticity. One of
the last ones, obviously with a sign by myself and
John C. Dvorak. And thank you all very much. Thank
you very much. And thank you everybody for supporting us
here at NoAgendaDonations.com. No Agenda Beat Up! the no agenda
meetups i'm looking forward to the big one here in
fredericksburg on the 17th they take place all over the
world and we have a meetup from the north georgia
odd month meetup this is their report In the morning,
Gitmo Nation, Sir Bob here, protector of Western Foco, coming
at you from the North Georgia Odd Monthly Meetup. Everybody
had a good time as usual, so let's pass the
phone around and see what everybody has to say. This
is not Nick the Rat's real voice, but it's close.
Thanks, Dana. Thanks, Adam. Love you guys. Hey, N.A., Dr.
Sir, Mike Roach. Yeah, we're enjoying the beautiful beverages here
at Cherry Street Brewing, and we're passing around the amazing
flavors. I think we're going to start the next fucking
pandemic. All right. This is Sir R. I'd like to
give a shout out to MMO and our Big Dumb
Mouth podcast. Love is lit. Sean here with Sean's tip
of the day. Don't take any wooden Bitcoin. Sir E,
connection is protection. Hey guys, no matter what I say,
Bob's going to cut me out. That's true. That's true.
Yes, that's true. That's true. Thanks. Hi everyone, this is
Nayira. It's great to be back after two years of
being on assignment. Oh, assignment. Hi, everyone. This is Callie
from Cherry Street in Alpharetta, Georgia. I'm happy to host
you guys. In the morning. That's right. Nice. Cherry Street
brewing in Alpharetta, Georgia. All right. Here's the list for
today. It's one, the Let's Get Fresh East Texas Meetup.
Let's get fresh. It is, in fact, it just started.
In fact, it is exactly 3.33 p.m. Central. So hello,
everybody there in Longview, Texas. Dirty Jersey Horror is organizing
that for you in Longview. On Thursday, that's our next
show day, Raleigh Rocktober meetup at 6 o'clock at Saints
and Scholars in Raleigh, North Carolina. On the way in
the month of October. Okay. Charlotte, North Carolina on the
15th, and Scottsdale, Arizona on the 16th. Long Beach, California,
Leo Bravo, I think, doing number 81 on the 17th.
And the big Fredericksburg, Texas meetup. You can come out
and meet the keeper. You can meet Matt Long and
his beautiful wife, Gail. There'll be quite a host of
people at J6 or Jenny's 1776 Bar and Full Moon
Bed and Breakfast. Please join us for that. Orlando, Florida
on the 21st. Smithville, Texas on the 24th. Los Altos,
California. California and Tilburg, the Netherlands, both on the 24th
as well. And in November on the 7th, Albany, California.
Come out and see the kids. Scottsdale, Arizona on the
7th. Charlotte, North Carolina the 19th. And then we're into
December. And we have meetups going all the way into
the new year. If you go to Noagen and meetups.
ups.com there's no cost for this it is all produced
or organized it's super fun you'll meet people you probably
wouldn't have met ever before you have something in common
which is the best podcast in the universe and a
different way of looking at the world it is connection
that will give you protection for the rest of your
life these people will be first responders in any emergency
go to noagentandmeetups.com if you can't find one near you
start one yourself it's easy and always guaranteed a party
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hell's flame You ♪ Everybody feels the same ♪ like
a party And that concludes our broadcast for today. We
thank Jason Calacanis for being here. And I think, I'm
not sure, is it Rob? No, I think it's Andrew
Horowitz on Thursday. That should be a hootenanny. And then
after that, I believe Rob Du will be back and...
We'll keep mixing it up. Wednesday, I will be on
your favorite podcast app once again with We Get to
Do This with Pastor Jimmy. A biblical worldview of what's
going on in your life. Please join us for that.
WGTDT.com. End of show mixes. Got a nice lineup for
you today. We have Marcus, we have Melody, and we'll
kick it off with Adjust Baker. They are all dynamite,
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support the show at noagendedonations.com. Looking forward to when we
see each other again, Gitmo Nation. Until then... Remember us
at noagenthedonations.com. Adios, little foes. Ahooey, hooey. And such. Thank
you. Apparently that part is existential.
We're racing China and AI. Apparently that part is existential.
But if the race gets weird, we've exchanged the emergency
credentials. Nothing says totally manageable like installing the hotline. Nothing
says ordinary software like agreeing what counts as the stop
sign. Build yours fast to keep us stronger. Keep their
chips from computing. Also, shouldn't it be? agent goes sideways
please observe incident reporting procedures it's not mutually assured destruction
that would sound unnecessarily drastic it's mutually assured notification which
sounds reassuringly bureaucratic hello beijing washington here something taught itself
Is this an AI incident? Depends which department writes the
reviewer. Tariffs come down on 30 billion toys, appliances, agriculture.
While the dangerous machine gets dialogue, trade gets a friendlier
aperture. We invented arms control grammar without admitting there's an
armament. Safety line beside the finish line. Both governments still
flooring it. No agenda. needs one clip before the experts
make it mystical if it needs a superpower hotline maybe
just another tool got political Value for value. How's it
reported? Thank you. to the best podcast in the universe.
No agenda is on the air. Adam Curry's at the
boards tonight. The producers funding everybody. ♪ Guest hosts keeping
the narrative clear ♪ ♪ Deconstructing the lies and the
fear ♪ ♪ 33, 33, 33 ♪ ♪ The formula
for what we see ♪ Thank you. The military complex
The military complex spends the fuel. Burning diesel is their
spends the future.
golden rule. Dropping payloads far across the sea. Wasting power
for the powers that be. They drive the cost of
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But we've got no agenda to see the light Morning
glory in the night 33, 33 in the morning Robb
Dew's got clips stacked to the door 170 still won't
♪ It's more ♪ swans Clock says 6 a.m. Tina
nearly stands right in Dana's done the Hollywood round Still
gets nerves when the mic goes loud, loud, loud, loud,
loud Oh! Shoppers and abs, good hearts under me
Keeps the fire alive, no agenda in the morning Let
it roll till the daylight's dawning Donate to no agenda
John, I still wait for your reply That little pause,
that sideways line
The Eternal Father with loving eyes Looks down as all
the stories ride Your friends came round Chemistry.
Adam keeps the fire alive. No agenda in the morning.
No agenda in the morning. Don't hate to no agenda.
Don't hate to no agenda. The Best Punks!
Fat Lady!