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December 30th, 2018 • 2h 47m

1099: Wobama

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oh okay Adam curry
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Jhansi Devorah and Sunday December 30th
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2018 this is your award-winning Gitmo
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nation media assassination episode 1099
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this is no agenda in the clue do in the
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morning everybody
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hi Madame Curie and from northern
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Silicon Valley but I'm looking back on
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all kinds of things
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hey hey why are we working I'm John
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Steve or we're working because we're
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true artists
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okay we need the money
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because people want to have some real
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information when everybody is gone well
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they're Adela substitutes are in yeah
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but the substitutes typically are no
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good they're doing retrospectives look
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back they bring in the B guests that's
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the worst
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yeah they do might be Michael Moore was
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on speaking of the beat yes yes Michael
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Moore was on Chris Chris for an hour
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this buddy well yeah because at the end
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of the year don't worry about her get on
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tell you Michael Moore was on with Chris
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Hayes for an hour oh god yeah it was
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I couldn't even pull a single clip from
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it that's it was just yeah so that's
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what's going on in those days worked
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yeah not today as far as I know but yeah
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he was working and it's a good point it
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was no I think might have been it might
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have been a recording could have been
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anyway that's what m5m does and here on
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the best podcast an important Trump such
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a horrible person everything's so
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important let's take some just take some
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time off we're all gonna die climate
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change is gonna kill us in ten years
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trump israel is literally ruining the
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country and the world time to look back
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at it back take a little look at what's
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been happening in our in our little
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media world and in the morning to the
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troll room people showing up those young
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but two and two together about that no
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people showing up today for the for the
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live stream that's always nice to see
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that's good well today I'll just kick it
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off today he is kind of partially
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somewhat Election Day recording of a
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report ah well let's kick it off with
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yours and then I'll jump into my beat in
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the Democratic Republic of Congo
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political unrest is growing ahead of
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Sunday's planned presidential election
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on Wednesday the Election Commission
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said voting in three cities would be
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postponed until March due to the threats
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of the Ebola virus spreading and ongoing
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violence in those areas protesters took
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to the streets in response to the news
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with many saying their votes may not be
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counted if election results are
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announced as planned in
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President Joseph Kabila was due to step
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down in 2016 but elections have been
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repeatedly postponed this comes as the
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government ordered the European Union
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ambassador to the DRC to leave after the
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EU extended sanctions against a group of
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officials including Emmanuel rama's Ani
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Chaudhary the ruling party's
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presidential candidate for their violent
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response to protests and for repeatedly
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delaying elections the DRC is
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experienced in one of the deadliest
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outbreaks of Ebola with health officials
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reporting over 350 people dead and again
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they're missing all of it we're
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expecting better well yes if you go to a
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local African Reporter
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which is what I did because there are
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some interesting things we've got a name
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we've got some other details I'll start
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off with as I said this is a yeah but
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did you get to see this Chaudhary guy
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with that crazy goatee yeah but he's not
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interesting a different guy is
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interesting it's President on Wednesday
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made the announcement that elections
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will be postponed
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in these three localities we are talking
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about a Benny tempo and young beat now
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we know that Benny is where all the
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cobalt is mined we're also sadly in
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coincidentally all the Ebola is located
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let's not forget that these three
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localities are considered stronghold for
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the opposition and of course is like mid
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mention that fears of more Ebola
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outbreak and his security on the Pinta
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this decision and I want to say that
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this decision has been hugely criticized
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by a couple of a presence I want to
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begin with the opposition stronghold
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Martin fire Lou who are via a Twitter
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and I would like to borrow his words it
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is bernabéu tempo as well as you'll be
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an integral part of the TRC and so which
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is one and indivisible and the to that
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effect the opposition leader has called
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for a death day or OS : furniture will
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mod today D 28th of December out there
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in the GRC so Martin for you know a
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second mmm-hmm I don't understand this
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if this strong hole is all the
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opposition why is it Amy Goodman and her
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communists well it's you actually would
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have a good time if she did three
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seconds of research Martin feiyu Lou who
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has been picked as the as the opposition
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then again it's the opposite of
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strongholds where the voting has been
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postponed she did point out that they're
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gonna announce the winners in January
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spike T voting in March gives a crap is
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it totally nobody cares nobody cares
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what they're doing if he what's his name
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here
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if I you Lu are you ready for this we
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there's a couple things they have in in
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the Democratic Republic of Congo they
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have a diamonds gold cobalt which we'll
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get to in a moment very important Cobalt
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I think the two thirds of the world's
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cobalt which you need for your
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technology gadgets and really anything
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battery related well this guy used to
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work for Exxon Exxon Mobil tooth
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educated in America
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he's a total oil guy they just brought
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in an Exxon guy and he is the one that's
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running listen to a an AFP report
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outgoing president Joseph Kabila casts
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his vote in the election to choose
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creating the prospect of the first-ever
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democratic transfer of power in the
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former Belgian colony of the candidates
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to succeed him kapila's own choice the
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country's former interior minister is
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said to be trailing in opinion polls
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behind former Exxon Mobil manager Martin
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say you knew the opposition accuses the
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government of failing to distribute the
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fruits of economic growth across the 85
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million population it also fears
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possible vote rigging three opposition
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dominated regions have already been
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barred from the poll officially because
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of concerns over ethnic violence and the
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spread of the Ebola forum results are
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not expected until January the 15th I
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never heard the pronunciation Ebola
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that's new rule is that yeah it's yeah
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for you Lew is the guy 62 he actually
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was arrested several times during
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opposition demonstrations in Kinshasa he
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would say he was shot in the head with a
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rubber bullet at one point this guy is
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pretty tough but he's a big-time oil
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executive he actually I think he owns a
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couple of hotels and he's one of these
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it leaders too has probably been hanging
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around for a while and now it's his turn
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to go in and take over since this kind
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of sham government has been in power for
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seven
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teen years and I'm pretty sure that
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cobalt is really the main issue although
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he's the oil guy if you know though
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minerals I'm sorry little guys no me no
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minerals yeah that's true just today in
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Kinshasa the Democratic Republic of
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Congo has declared declared cobalt a
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strategic substance and they are now
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upping a tripling the royalty rate
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miners pay of cobalt to 10 percent hmm
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so the 10 percent royalty rate also
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applies to coltan which you would know
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better not the thing that's in trend
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they use that in transistors maybe chips
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coltan never I don't know what that is
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it's probably probably the minerals
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something else is extracted from my head
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to line it up them and so if you start
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looking a little bitter with what's
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happening in this area of the Democratic
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Republic of Congo it's it's pretty it's
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pretty disgusting how this I mean these
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miners you know don't think that these
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guys have a hat on with a light and
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they're going down in an elevator and a
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tunnel now they're sitting on railroad
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ties being lowered on ropes there's kids
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you know groveling through whatever's
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brought up to try and separate the
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cobalt and everybody knows that this is
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going on I mean you would kind of
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presume that Apple would have looked at
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it but they've come look at it
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but I found a report that just a short
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report that explains to us why we're no
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longer hearing about children working in
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the mines in the cobalt mines for your
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cell phone and you know unsafe working
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conditions and it's all in the words of
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course companies around the world are
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trying to clean up the way they source
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cobalt a key ingredient in batteries for
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smart phones left
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and electric cars but conditions remain
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hazardous in the Democratic Republic of
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Congo which is where about two-thirds of
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the world's cobalt is mine we traveled
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to cozy the cobalt boom town of Congo
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these guys are climbing into these holes
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straddling railroad ties and hauling up
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tons of cobalt with makeshift rope and
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no proffer of safety equipment or
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support whatsoever in January 2016 a
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human rights report alerted the world to
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how cobalt is often dug up by hand under
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unsafe sometimes deadly conditions by
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subsistence miners including children
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pressure began mounting on the
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businesses that use the metal in their
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products since even suppliers at mine
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cobalt industrially often buy or from
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so-called artisanal miners also known by
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the French word cuza
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I didn't have time to go look at Apple's
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annual reports but I'll bet you
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somewhere they'll sit because it sounds
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great yeah we at Apple we are very
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concerned about the health and safety of
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the people who work with us our partners
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and that's why we source our cobalt only
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from artisanal miners without laughing
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Wow right just the idea of blood cobalt
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yes so they get to us that near Blood
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Diamond thing around Oh Mon Mon Mon Ami
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can it miss the boat on the whole report
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now you think if cobalt goes up by 10
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percent or yet it is up ten percent
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so it's tripled okay the cost of mining
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cobalt they say that they cost it there
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the tax of the government was tripled
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that means yes reefs 3 percent it went
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to 10 no no it tripled to 10 percent yes
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well what is how do you triple to 10
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percent if you don't have a base of
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around 3 points maybe it's 3 percent yes
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way said yes so they tripled it to 10
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percent we're saying the same thing ok
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good so
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if the if the basic cost of cobalt goes
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up and that price has got to get passed
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along will our phones get more expensive
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three cars and what probably is just
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gonna add 10% to the you know to the
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gonna go no that's a hundred bucks
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have been not because of the cold balls
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yeah gonna get more expensive cuz you're
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getting ripped off exactly strategic
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artisanal cobalt everybody look for it
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in an iPhone near you
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I'd love to see the videos of those kids
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digging away what's in the show notes
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they just they'd have it it's no secret
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just called artisanal and everything's
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okay yeah small batch yes small batch
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cobalt beautiful
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all right like you know where there's a
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first depressing story to end the year
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right it's we're not looking back no
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retrospective we're showing you the
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future so my wife is bitching and
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moaning and groaning about this about
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the damage of the 9/11 lines all over
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the country yes watch yes I have
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something this short clip it up ah
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now I know it just why does one company
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should say why does one company have
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such control of all the 911 outlets
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around everywhere a Century Link by the
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way so just play the CenturyLink Clipper
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we get a little background telecom giant
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CenturyLink said today it's still trying
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to restore internet and 9-1-1 emergency
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services in several states across the
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country
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the outage began early Thursday
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affecting millions of customers from
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coast-to-coast louisiana-based
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CenturyLink says the outage was not
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caused by hacking the FCC is looking
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into this oh well I'm glad you set that
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up with that clip it's a perfect setup
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because I have a little more detailed
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story and I have a CenturyLink spokes
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hole unless you wanted to say unless you
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wanted to say something about this no
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I'll say some and we're all done for the
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second day in a row potentially millions
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of Americans dialing 911 this an
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extensive outage at telecommunications
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companies CenturyLink not some emergency
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call centers offline for certain callers
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around the country highlighted in this
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map from the website down detector in a
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series of tweets beginning late thirst
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by the way I love that the news is using
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such artisanal tools as down detector
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get a reading on the health of the nine
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of 911 work it's it's sad engineers that
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quote identified a network element and
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that the problem would be restored
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within four hours but today more than 14
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hours later the company reported
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technicians were still working to
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restore services announcing a fix an
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hour later the head of the FCC announced
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an investigation calling the outage
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completely unacceptable its breadth and
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duration particularly troubling
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Centrelink has not provided details on
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what caused the disruption and
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it's unclear if the outage prevented
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anyone from receiving emergency
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assistance if I rush this basha 14 are
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boarders many of the affected emergency
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response agencies suggested people call
15:20
their local police departments ten digit
15:22
phone number if they need help with its
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9-1-1 system out Boston Fire tweeted a
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picture of its old Street fire boxes
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operational since 1852 in the case of an
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actual emergency yes those things
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apparently still work that's the old
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days
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yeah and works now so did you find out
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anything about why CenturyLink has the
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monopoly nobody's talking about it seem
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but I looked at the map it's all over
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the countries and big blotches all over
15:53
the place nobody I know what this is
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this is it this is an example of
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micro-services architecture I don't even
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know if it's some code broke yeah that's
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all it takes with MSA to ruin everything
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they apparently sold as lose you could
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do this you can just use this plug this
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into your system and everything will
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work fine you're gonna trust the calls
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it does all these things and a piece of
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code didn't work for something months
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some weird happen who knows him as a
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million things you haven't happens to
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you all the time and artisinal code
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artisinal code this is the problem with
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MSA this is this is this is the doomsday
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problem with micro services architecture
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yeah this is professor Ted's territory
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now if you would if you were the spokes
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hole for CenturyLink and you had said
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that and said well micro services
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architecture you know we have to
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reevaluate there's some things you know
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what nobody fact I even think half our
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audience doesn't know what I'm talking
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about when I'm talking about
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micro-services architectures and why
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don't you speak to the other half of the
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audience
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the normal people as you journalists
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well I just think they don't give a crap
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or they what it was never presented to
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him that would be the problem well no
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you're not gonna tell anybody about
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microservices architecture because it's
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a well-kept secret that everything runs
17:18
using this technology or architecture
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which is that you and you can start a
17:24
company up right now anyone can and find
17:28
pieces of micro-services architecture
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with in other words little things
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somebody will take your credit card
17:32
somebody will put you to create a
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database of names and addresses somebody
17:37
who do a mailing list in some ways my
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using of MailChimp is microservices
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architecture I think in this case you
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may not be right I think this is this
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was a network issue is networking and
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they run some kind of network and if
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they say let me defend myself okay
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micro-services architecture also depends
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on quality network of quality network
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connections microservices architecture
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goes down not because of code but
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because there's a break in some in some
18:09
network link and the next thing you know
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nobody in the country can do a credit
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card process right right right right
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okay but this was this is that this is
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the end of civilization as we know it
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I'm sorry yeah I'm gonna you're wrong
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that is not what this is I have the
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answer from the spokesperson of Century
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Link from the horse's mouth so to speak
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you're wrong you do you're wrong you're
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wrong you're wrong here is what actually
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happened we are not concerned about the
18:39
reliability of the system this was a
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technical glitch that we identified in
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advance but now we will be able to put
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in systems to make sure we can in the
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future I got 99 glitches
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and put a GoSee on there will ya I
19:02
really despise this
19:06
to stay and this was for journalists
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this was a press conference statement a
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glitch everybody and you know what all
19:16
the press did would you look at the time
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I'll find my story sounds good now it's
19:22
about something that could actually hurt
19:24
somebody it's not acceptable it's not
19:27
acceptable report reporting it's not
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acceptable I mean do you still the old
19:32
Adam curry pet peeve of the day clip
19:40
glitch my ass people it's so
19:43
unacceptable
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it was the point is that that people
19:58
should look into this it is I didn't
20:01
even know about it until maybe four or
20:03
five years ago when I was explaining the
20:06
whole thing by the guys that one of the
20:11
the said patchy competitor I can't the
20:13
other names Ning uh engine acting and
20:18
jet engine yes yeah engine X they have
20:23
they rely on it they use it I mean
20:25
everybody's doing this show relies on
20:28
the drill so much cheaper we rely on it
20:30
to some degree we have some reliability
20:33
on micro-services architecture we do we
20:36
use buckets from Amazon yeah so that's
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part of it
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you can't get around it because you
20:43
could do it all in-house yeah but you
20:45
would be burdened and it would cost
20:47
Internet
20:47
interplan an interplanetary file systems
20:50
the future ipfs I use it I did my feed
20:55
and people had worked people got the
20:57
lumidee how many dozens of people got to
21:00
feed that way Oh mate probably just
21:03
about that the ones who subscribe to it
21:06
yeah it's hey it worked I just put it on
21:10
my laptop and people were able to
21:11
download it and I had my laptop
21:13
disconnected it was fantastic anyway
21:16
that digressing if this this needs to
21:20
stop this is now it's important I would
21:23
really like to know what's wrong I'm
21:24
sure there's some networking dudes named
21:26
Ben out there who were also interested
21:28
networking news they've been and I'm
21:29
sure if you look at that map of all
21:31
these outages all over the place I'll
21:32
betcha there's a single point of failure
21:34
that's the problem with all micro
21:35
services architecture there's a single
21:38
point of failure where some one thing
21:40
it's one little connection some word
21:42
crapped out there's some guy on a
21:45
bicycle you know using the bike lane and
21:48
roll over a cable that was exposed and
21:51
busted it yeah something like that yeah
21:53
the area
21:56
anyway yeah all right everybody get
21:58
everyone we got everyone straightened
21:59
out on that I'm glad you did it was just
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a glitch I don't care when micro
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services services it was a glitch
22:06
everybody just so he no glitch I was
22:10
watching the news thing because it was a
22:12
commentary I made on the last show about
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you know it's too early to deal with the
22:18
2020 presidential election not the case
22:21
with NBC my goodness it's I don't think
22:25
it's a smart move
22:26
but that's up to them I think people
22:29
give us the foundation for what we can
22:32
look forward to complaining about you
22:35
might play the 20/20 prelims this is a
22:37
Halle Jackson red dress
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Russian believable
22:45
she's a substitute oh she's up normally
22:47
the White House correspondent of a she's
22:50
got a little thin got kind of a thin
22:52
gaunt face you don't know that she's
22:53
actually a big woman mmm oh so she's a
22:57
big woman and they put her on the and I
22:59
don't mean any offense there's a lot of
23:01
big women but they put her in an
23:02
unflattering dress put her in a red
23:05
dress make her stand up thank you not
23:09
too early to talk about 2020 many
23:11
potential Democratic candidates spent
23:13
this holiday huddling with their
23:14
families about a possible presidential
23:16
run and in some cases even starting to
23:19
look for staffers NBC's Kelly O'Donnell
23:21
explains tis the season for Democrats to
23:26
decide over the holiday I will make that
23:28
decision on my family during the
23:30
holidays I'm going to sit down and
23:32
ringing in the 2020 race the new year
23:39
will usher in what is likely to be a
23:41
gigantic field of Democratic challengers
23:44
competing for staff resources and voters
23:47
attention I'm going to reflect on
23:49
whether this is something that I should
23:52
do but all that thinking turns into
23:54
action as early as January some forming
23:57
exploratory committees formal
23:59
announcements likely within a few months
24:01
the nomination is up for grabs from the
24:04
most recognizable and experienced like
24:07
Joe Biden it's all about Donald or
24:11
Bernie Sanders wondering if he can
24:13
capture lightning again based on my past
24:16
by the way that was a very odd clip they
24:19
threw in there of Joe Biden why would
24:22
they do that
24:22
I mean if Joe Biden is one of your guys
24:25
why would you make him sound like he's
24:26
only focused on Trump is that is that
24:28
truly what the Democratic voter wants I
24:31
found this whole package which I believe
24:34
Holly produced because she voiced
24:37
Theotis I'll wear the dress but I have
24:40
to produce the piece and she had a lot
24:43
of good stuff in this shit the
24:44
continuation or we're saying I'm gonna
24:45
go over the holidays I'm bright or with
24:47
my family I'm talking about my family
24:49
that she had a lot of good they're
24:50
consistent there's a very well produced
24:52
package did seem not too light like Joe
24:56
Biden
24:57
yeah yeah it's probably slant well
24:59
notice that the package and everything
25:01
on embassies terrible let me finish it
25:03
up and I want to hear the rest of it for
25:05
grabs
25:06
from the most recognized stop stop says
25:09
you can finish do you get efficient up
25:10
go all the way if you if you look at it
25:13
from the perspective of a propaganda
25:15
piece I think the way it ends kind of
25:19
gives us a little indication of what
25:20
we're gonna be witnessing in okay okay
25:23
good and experienced like Joe Biden it's
25:25
all about Donald it's not about anything
25:27
else or Bernie Sanders wondering if he
25:30
can capture lightning again based on my
25:33
past based on my ideas that in fact I am
25:36
the candidate that can't defeat trouble
25:39
or will Democrats make a generational
25:42
shift a USA Today Suffolk University
25:44
poll finds 59% of Democrats and
25:48
independents surveyed say they would be
25:50
excited about someone entirely new at
25:54
least six senators could run for the
25:56
first time vision you have to decide
25:58
that you would be a good president that
26:00
you could bring the country together
26:01
that you would be able to beat Donald
26:04
Trump a November Senate defeat has not
26:06
dampened buzz around better O'Rourke
26:09
rule anything else and just former Obama
26:13
cabinet secretary Julian Castro has a
26:16
date picked on January 12th I'm gonna
26:19
make an announcement about my plans of
26:22
course it's early and the path
26:23
unpredictable but the process is getting
26:26
underway with many of these potential
26:28
candidates trying to position themselves
26:29
in what will be a costly and competitive
26:32
quest for the nomination Democrats also
26:35
have to decide among three cities where
26:38
they will hold their nominating
26:39
convention and it will go fast Iowa
26:42
Democrats will be meeting to caucus in
26:44
just about 400 days Kalli almost here
26:47
Kelly O'Donnell in Washington Kelly
26:49
thank you
26:49
so you think better I was right where
26:52
that was Kelly O'Donnell not a holiday
26:54
report okay
26:56
so Beto Beto huh you know that's it's
27:01
coincidental the keeper and I were out
27:04
yesterday you know looking for a place
27:06
to move to in april/may timeframe and so
27:10
we know we also went to some open houses
27:12
of places we can't afford but everywhere
27:15
you go South Austin its South Austin
27:19
particular the better signs are still up
27:22
one of our fit a James I think
27:25
Fitzpatrick I believe is last name one
27:28
of your Texas producers sent me a Beto
27:30
sign from one of the big ones the out
27:33
with the big the really big with their
27:35
they're cool and that really really babe
27:36
it was big ya know but everyone has
27:39
their buds their their their their yard
27:41
signs still up the yard signs are
27:43
everywhere yeah that's very interesting
27:46
I'm reminded of Pia Zadora when the rain
27:51
begins to fall yes PSO Dora let's talk
27:55
about right I interviewed her did you
27:58
know yes you tell me what you think well
28:01
well all I know is that she would a rich
28:03
husband well I let me like he has a rich
28:05
wife who promoted a hit because her
28:08
dream was to be a superstar yes so he
28:11
just spent a lot of money on her getting
28:13
her let me tell you what let me tell you
28:14
exactly what he did I think he's dead
28:16
now I think he's long gone but Pia
28:18
Zadora had had manipulated her her guys
28:22
money hmm
28:23
and I want to say that they seemed very
28:24
much in love so I don't it's fine by me
28:27
to make this song it was from they
28:31
produced a movie and a soundtrack and as
28:35
she did the soundtrack with Jermaine
28:37
Jackson which is like you know you got a
28:39
lot of money we didn't quite have
28:40
Michael Jackson money so we got Jermaine
28:42
Jackson and this and when the rain
28:45
begins to fall from now I'm doing this
28:47
from the top top had something about the
28:49
something in the alien now I got a no
28:51
Pia Zadora movie with it something
28:55
there's something in the alien I'm gonna
28:58
go watch it now I know you don't but was
29:01
it the voyage of the ROC aliens so it
29:05
was something like that man she did a
29:07
lot of movies I mean her husband paid
29:09
for a lot of movies yeah voyage of the
29:12
ROC aliens I believe it was she was kind
29:15
of a cutie yeah boy did you think you
29:19
met her and talked to her I didn't even
29:21
know no now she's all right she was very
29:24
tiny very right tiny it was but yes your
29:29
point is well made because
29:30
betos wife is heiress to a large fortune
29:35
and her her daddy alien her daddy-o's
29:38
probably still has some influence but I
29:41
was thinking about it and while he seems
29:43
kind of good on paper
29:45
you know white Obama let's just call him
29:47
that he has just what I like it Wow
29:50
white robe but we couldn't call him whoa
29:52
Bhama if you want to sure I think we
29:55
have a winner
29:58
Obama he reminds you of I mean how many
30:01
reports have we not heard it why very
30:04
reminiscent of Obama okay
30:07
Obama's style Obama yes he doesn't smile
30:10
and if you steal it or furs just yeah
30:12
there's lots of studies in steel bomber
30:14
was influential pressure on young people
30:18
like Obama that little black like little
30:22
better and I can I see that people dig
30:25
that part but is he's much younger than
30:29
Obama was I think he's 10 years younger
30:31
than Obama was when he when he ran and I
30:34
don't think so and did you just look at
30:38
the guy in like did you can see him
30:40
running you can see him debating do you
30:42
really see and running the country
30:46
I don't think any American sees that can
30:49
be like yeah he's just not you know it
30:53
doesn't have enough JFK was the same way
30:55
dude that's the same way man yeah man
30:58
okay was like a young guy they didn't
31:01
like kazoos good look I think if you
31:02
were old enough if you were old enough
31:04
to vote for JFK then you can vote for
31:05
Obama you can do whatever you want
31:10
mmm I just I don't know
31:14
even it would be great for the show well
31:17
it's gonna be on this is gonna happen I
31:19
mean they're gonna run him he's not
31:20
gonna get Pat in through the primaries
31:21
Hillary's still gonna come in yes yes as
31:25
for your newsletter I want you to
31:27
reiterate this because it's important
31:28
where we were hearing wall-to-wall
31:30
Hillary up until about six six weeks ago
31:34
she was everywhere she was with the
31:37
women intent lesbians in tech and that's
31:39
really less I'm not making that up it
31:41
was the the lesbians in tech conference
31:43
she's doing interviews everywhere she's
31:46
hamming it up she's got her paperback
31:48
version with the with a prologue and
31:52
then she starts this fateful tour a
31:55
three-hour tour and you know that
31:59
apparently I don't even know if the tour
32:01
has been canceled no one's reporting on
32:03
it
32:03
other than no this has not had been
32:05
canceled and nobody's reporting on it
32:07
right so what is you know there's
32:09
material in there hell yes so that if
32:15
you don't mind just for there's a lot of
32:16
people who just foolishly do not
32:18
subscribe to the newsletter I think it's
32:20
good that you explain again just what's
32:22
happening here
32:24
well to sum it up Hilary's being
32:26
blackballed by the media yes and she has
32:30
been left that when they talk about
32:31
polls well here's the newest poll says
32:34
this that the other thing there's no
32:36
mention of her when they did this
32:37
rundown that Kelly did on this Kathy
32:40
were Kelly whatever who it was that did
32:42
that report we just played she has all
32:45
pictures that she has you know
32:46
screenshots of one you know all the
32:50
potential candidates from including Amy
32:53
Klobuchar who they even have a sound
32:56
bite of Amy Klobuchar talking about how
32:58
she's thinking of running yeah and so
33:01
you have you know screenshot after
33:03
screenshot of people in a big you know
33:06
murderers row shot right and no Hillary
33:10
there's nothing Larry she's not
33:11
mentioned she's not shown she's been
33:14
completely blackballed when they do
33:15
polls she'll show up in the poll but
33:18
they will leave her out when they
33:19
present it to the public so what do you
33:23
think her strategy will be if she's not
33:25
taking this lying down I mean she's
33:27
clearly lying wait she's not gonna
33:31
happen with her yeah she is going to
33:34
she's taking names for starters right um
33:37
I think what she's gonna do is lay and
33:41
wait and she knows he's been through
33:43
this enough she's did the old but she
33:44
lost Obama that she lost the Trump and
33:46
so she's she ain't gonna lose to bet oh
33:49
no no she's not gonna lose the bet oh
33:51
but what she's gonna do she knows the
33:53
ropes enough now she still has the same
33:55
people that she's gonna lay in wait and
33:58
let these guys you know kill each other
34:00
off and she's gonna come in late
34:03
hmm she's gonna swoop in risky risky
34:07
strategy but she left her wait for some
34:10
risky as you think if you consider the
34:12
field being so big and everybody wanting
34:16
to run yeah
34:18
nor talking 40 people I know but the
34:20
media is strong she clearly doesn't have
34:22
CNN on her side MSNBC seems to have
34:26
waned she cause she counting on Fox News
34:29
the Democrats at Fox News to to help her
34:34
no there she's counting on the news
34:36
cycle to help her you know what she
34:38
swoops in it'll be like a big deal and
34:40
nor could she win again it becomes a
34:42
center of attention she won't have any
34:43
trouble getting ink I'm just wondering
34:45
what the catalyst will be I'm not
34:47
disagreeing with with the strategy
34:49
although I see you know I don't know
34:50
she's nuts she really thinks she can do
34:53
this
34:55
maybe she can I don't know maybe just
34:56
maybe the numbers do add up against her
34:58
but it I don't think we'll see a repeat
35:00
of Trump Clinton just doesn't sound
35:02
right it doesn't sound right to me
35:05
either
35:05
but I this is I think gonna be what she
35:08
tries to do it and I think she could
35:10
pull it off it's not even gonna be a
35:12
Trump in 2020 he's going to jail he's
35:18
going to jail I tell you it impeachment
35:21
imminent that's all I see on television
35:23
it's imminent and the people in it and
35:25
it's not a New York Times the New York
35:28
Times the worst it's not if he's going
35:35
to be impeached it's when it's where it
35:38
is well just on that for a second I
35:43
guess somewhere Christmas right after
35:45
Christmas a report came out that there
35:48
was a prog ping from Michael Cohen
35:52
cellphone which would mean he lied and
35:55
that he was in Prague colluding with the
35:57
Russians and this report came from
36:00
McClatchy which I don't I don't know why
36:02
but I kind I think I know the name but
36:04
everyone seems to to be saying this is a
36:06
very reputable outfit tell me whom
36:08
McClatchy is one of the old syndicates
36:11
it's very so it's very established not
36:14
some newbie it's not like whatever you
36:17
pointed out earlier about the downtime
36:19
calm or whatever it is so they have they
36:23
have chops really they're a dying
36:25
operation but it's you know oh then you
36:28
will like these two clips I have from
36:30
the man himself
36:31
Greg Gordon who is the person who wrote
36:34
and filed the story for McClatchy then
36:37
when you're you know even though you're
36:39
old-school I mean they have standing is
36:41
that what you're saying they're they're
36:42
reputable they're seniors they have
36:43
standing yeah I think yeah well so the
36:47
best they could do is get on the joy
36:48
read show for some reason over at MSNBC
36:51
it doesn't include having a good agent
36:54
oh well they definitely need an upgrade
36:56
an agent and the question is you know
36:59
who exactly were your sources now it's
37:02
okay I guess we're in an era of
37:03
everything is anonymous sources people
37:06
you know I I can imagine seeing some of
37:09
these
37:09
old-school operations having just stoop
37:13
to new-age tactics to get some airtime
37:17
because they can't do it with their
37:19
legitimate reporting that's a
37:20
possibility do you have any idea about
37:23
their sources have you heard any no I
37:25
don't even know this story oh oh well
37:28
this was this this is part of this you
37:32
know sparking up of the it's all over
37:34
for him because it turns out that there
37:37
is evidence somewhere from someone from
37:40
sources that have a ping in Prague from
37:45
Michael Cohen cellphone that would have
37:48
to be the NSA that did found that or
37:51
this or the station chief from the CIA
37:54
that was monitoring something or that an
37:56
oxidant sounds sketchy well let's listen
37:58
to McClatchy defend his reporting or
38:00
that Greg Gordon from McClatchy defend
38:02
the reporting and the sources put
38:06
Michael Cohen cellphone in Prague one
38:09
would think those would be fairly
38:10
specific but the reporting of McClatchy
38:12
is that they were either in August or
38:14
September how would they not be more
38:16
specific if these are actual intercepts
38:18
that show the phone pings I think they
38:20
are more specific but unfortunately we
38:22
weren't able to pry that out of our
38:24
sources so we're getting information
38:26
from foreign intelligence agency this is
38:28
a counterintelligence investigation did
38:31
your sources see the interception
38:33
themselves or are they passing along
38:35
information from other people the
38:37
sources have some of the sources have
38:40
government sources and some of the
38:43
sources are I got government sources or
38:48
people who have told us that they have
38:51
trusted intelligence type sources that
38:54
they get information from we don't know
38:56
the specifics but we have used these
38:58
sources on many subjects and they have
39:00
been very accurate I'd say that not only
39:02
stooping to the modern tactics I'd say
39:05
he's holding his his ankles he's so
39:08
stupid over I would find this to be very
39:13
sketchy and then he started off by
39:15
saying that the sources were foreign
39:17
intelligence yes yes not our boys no NSA
39:21
CIA it gets better
39:23
you know that sounds a lot like I still
39:25
thought see I reread this deal because
39:27
listen to him laugh as she basically
39:29
rubs it in his face I'll give him a give
39:32
her a point for that saying yeah this
39:33
kind of sounds like the steal dossier
39:34
and he just cracks up laughing lot like
39:41
I still got see I reread this deal
39:43
because what the hell is why did why
39:47
what was so funny about that
39:51
I'm wondering myself I mean I'm kind of
39:53
befuddled by this again McClatchy and it
39:56
wasn't like a nervous laugh it was a it
39:59
was a guffaw
40:00
yeah there wasn't a tell it was like and
40:02
I'm at all I don't know what that was so
40:05
if she says I reread this T it sounds
40:06
like the steel dossier so be there he
40:08
thinks of steel dossier is total crap or
40:11
it's a complete breakdown of his system
40:15
like hahaha something is very strange
40:27
did they let you see them you sources
40:36
have been used before and they're saying
40:38
it was they were told that these
40:39
intercepts exist though it's true have
40:42
they what kind of evidence do they
40:43
provide you for you to confident that
40:46
this was something that you're willing
40:48
to put MacLeod she's named on well for
40:50
one thing we've we got numbers we have
40:53
four sources who've told us about this
40:56
for another we have we have read our
40:59
beginning of our story to some of these
41:02
sources to make absolutely certain we've
41:03
gone over it and over it and over it we
41:06
worked on this story know they went over
41:09
it and over it and over it and yeah he
41:12
has four sources so he's got numbers I
41:14
like how he said that I first of all we
41:16
got numbers is that number she said is
41:17
that a thing you say in the news
41:18
business like if we got numbers here
41:20
okay I got numbers I got sources who
41:23
know government sources I got numbers I
41:25
McClatchy did your sources come to you
41:27
and say hey we have this new information
41:28
or did you go to them asking well it's
41:32
been a dialogue for a long time so you
41:34
know in my partner Peter stone did some
41:37
of this elusive sleuthing but we both
41:40
are sleuthing
41:42
sleuthing what what is he Nancy Drew yes
41:48
I'm here in Prague
41:49
maybe there's something behind the
41:51
bookcase thing but we both are
41:55
well-acquainted with the sources and and
41:58
we I would say we developed some of
42:00
these some of this came from foreign
42:01
sources and those people one of those
42:05
people talked to us over a long period
42:08
of time before he provided a drop of
42:10
information he's gonna he's the guy is
42:13
gonna come he's not unglued but
42:16
everything's unwinding before his very
42:18
eyes and he even admits to it in this it
42:21
gets is because we know that there is a
42:26
possibility that sometimes sources have
42:28
motives for putting things out and one
42:30
of those motives might be to get
42:31
McClatchy to run a story like this even
42:33
if it isn't true is there any concern at
42:35
all that people might have had a
42:36
motivation to try to get you to run a
42:38
story it was sort of an audit in Prague
42:40
situation work what is a DA in Prague
42:43
I've heard the expression I've never
42:44
heard that expression oh now we have to
42:47
now we have to look at
42:51
I heard uh in is I think it's a movie
42:54
reference
42:54
I think Alpha Delta alpha I had maybe
42:59
not had to in Prague I know at a
43:03
restaurant and one of those motors might
43:11
be to get McClatchy to run a story like
43:12
this even if it isn't true is there any
43:15
concern at all that people might have
43:16
had a motivation to try to get you to
43:18
run a story there was sort of an audit
43:19
in Prague situation in Prague like maybe
43:22
I'm not hearing it right Abba ABBA and
43:24
Prague maybe but they want it printed
43:30
well that's not the kind of dialogue
43:34
we've had would create a kind of
43:36
suspicion because of the people that
43:38
we've been working with but you always
43:41
have to be wary of disinformation what I
43:43
would say about this information we just
43:45
think about the dossier and Michael
43:47
Cohen because this is this whole Cowan
43:50
episode the reason it's got so much
43:52
attention is that it goes if Muller has
43:56
not yet charged anybody with collusion
43:59
or any crime right waiting to collision
44:02
and and so with this what this meeting
44:07
or purported meeting in Prague quid mean
44:11
is the first evidence of some sort of
44:13
collusion beyond this the fact that his
44:16
cellphone
44:17
appeared to show up and in the Prague
44:19
area we don't even know if there wasn't
44:20
meaning but this is coupled with some
44:25
intelligence from an Eastern European
44:27
intelligence agency that picked up this
44:32
this conversation conversation yeah so
44:37
now the conversation they picked it up
44:41
and somehow it came from Prague and you
44:44
know the collusion it's never last 20
44:47
seconds very very sad thing this man is
44:50
about to say Michael Cohen is in Prague
44:53
from a Russian official we believe a
44:55
senior Russian officials questioned she
44:57
would be is there any
44:59
but you were able to actually physically
45:01
see for yourself that corroborated what
45:03
these sources were telling you look at
45:06
the intercepts that would give you some
45:07
further evidence beyond what we had we
45:09
held out for a while for that and we you
45:12
know where they came at a time when we
45:13
thought we had a critical mass it is a
45:15
competitive business yeah it is indeed
45:18
it's a competitive business we had to
45:21
get the story out there I think that's
45:25
very sad to hear this from a so called
45:28
record bold school organization well
45:30
it's it's a shame well that's why you
45:32
don't that's what you never heard of
45:34
them Oh sad it seems to me that the CIA
45:39
the NSA somebody would know if this coin
45:42
was floating around Prague ever yeah so
45:44
I mean that's not this is not a story
45:46
it's a bull crap button thing just a
45:48
price excite the public well and for its
45:51
McClatchy
45:53
the final nail in the coffin sounds like
45:56
to me done those boys are done I tell
46:00
you
46:03
no see down here for this no is it down
46:09
or it's it's meant to entertain we've
46:12
had glitches we've had pings what else
46:15
do we have going on in the news well I
46:18
got a series of clips
46:20
let me change these either oh I did I
46:22
did I was going through my he was gonna
46:24
do the I did again or the whatever
46:26
happened to ah yes yes yes yes
46:28
I've to clips on the same topic because
46:30
it turned out to be this was in 2015
46:32
just a few years ago it turns out to be
46:36
this was the news item of the year it
46:38
was there were every channel as I have
46:40
the two clips about it it was going on
46:42
and on everyone was just up in arms and
46:44
they're just everyone's in a tizzy over
46:47
this whatever happened to story and I
46:50
had the PBS version and they have the
46:52
ABC teaser on on this thing let's start
46:56
with the teaser the eye opening new
46:57
cancer warning hotdogs processed meat
47:00
and bacon now put in the same category
47:02
as cigarettes and asbestos let's listen
47:17
to the PBS report this new report
47:20
released today by the World Health
47:21
Organization found that often beloved
47:23
like sausage bacon ham and hot dogs can
47:27
cause certain types of cancer
47:28
prior studies had established similar
47:30
connections but the w-h-o was the most
47:32
prominent health organization to
47:34
specifically say processed meats can
47:36
cause cancer it looked at more than 800
47:39
studies around the world it also found
47:41
that eating freshly prepared red meat
47:43
like steak or pork or lamb probably can
47:46
cause cancer as well now is bacon
47:48
process
47:50
but he's cured it slice slice does not
47:52
awesome process to them means anything
47:56
other than just shooting still long
47:58
behaving
48:00
it's still on the pig hits on its
48:02
unprocessed bacon it's smoked and then
48:04
treat you sometimes with the nitrites
48:07
are we dead yet yeah yeah well I can
48:12
follow that up with the story you know
48:14
in in the united states of gitmo nation
48:16
we have the Food and Drug Administration
48:19
running around of trying to not trying
48:23
writing up regulations to stop children
48:25
from the evil vaping because it leads to
48:27
smoking it's a gateway drug to smoking
48:31
we don't know the effects of nicotine
48:32
you could die and meanwhile kids are
48:35
vaping up a storm but they're not
48:37
smoking cigarettes which is why the
48:39
company formerly known as Philip Morris
48:41
bought Joule for some ungodly amounts it
48:46
was at sixty valuation sixty billion
48:48
dollars so crazy and from real sales and
48:51
real forward-looking stuff so you know
48:54
that there's a very big future in the U
48:57
K Gitmo nation east they haven't quite
49:00
caught on to that did they no longer
49:02
have it I thought Philip Morris was
49:04
wasn't that British
49:07
originally or at some point do they not
49:10
do they no longer have a stake in the in
49:12
cigarettes and tobacco products the UK I
49:16
think I wonder I wonder if the UK has
49:18
any any relation to tobacco anymore
49:21
because the public health England which
49:23
is the government's you know public
49:26
health propaganda arm has launched a
49:29
campaign to show well I'll play though
49:33
let me show towline Philip Morris I'm
49:35
looking on their wiki page they are a
49:39
they're still in tobacco they are
49:41
founded in 1847 their headquarters in
49:45
New York they're not a British company
49:46
thought they were what is the at British
49:49
American Tobacco there was a number of
49:51
companies that there was a lot of anyway
49:54
they won't if they do because they're
49:56
really trying to get rid of cigarettes
49:58
and they're doing it by showing the kids
50:00
vaping is good and what we are going to
50:02
do this we are going to have I need to
50:11
give you some visual aids here so they
50:13
have three bell jars with cotton balls
50:15
in them one is the control bell jar
50:18
which just has cotton balls not just air
50:20
then they have one with a vape stuck on
50:23
the top and they have one with a
50:25
cigarette holder and they drew in the
50:30
equivalent amount of cigarette smoke and
50:32
vape vaporizer condensation as to a
50:37
month's worth of smoking each product
50:40
and I'll say smoking in months worth of
50:44
nicotine in one puff no a monk's worth
50:46
it's not the nicotine a month's worth of
50:48
whatever you puff from a cigarette a
50:50
month's worth of for whatever you puff
50:52
from a vape and then a just nothing
50:56
plain old air with the same not just the
50:59
control of the controlled jaar jaar
51:02
which we draw
51:03
from an e-cigarette for the same amount
51:05
of time and then as a control condition
51:07
we have clear air to demonstrate not
51:10
smoking or vaping so let's see what's
51:12
going to happen
51:15
yeah I mean it just is so revolting of
51:22
the jar here a lump of time so that's
51:26
what's going on inside your lungs
51:29
there's loads of it and this is a
51:31
reactor one month look at the B
51:36
cigarette
51:36
it's just a little bit of vapor but the
51:40
only one that's really got much in the
51:42
way of color my research shows that are
51:47
significantly less harmful density grows
51:49
a big reason for this is the tar which
51:51
you can see here which is not produced
51:54
by heart disease
51:59
well there are six million smokers in
52:01
England and we think about half a
52:03
million of them will try and stop
52:04
smoking in January the best thing I
52:06
smoked a candy for their health is to
52:08
stop smoking
52:09
but don't try and do it on your own we
52:11
ask people to search smoke-free and get
52:13
some help so that they can be more
52:15
successful in quitting smoking so I
52:17
don't know but to me it sounded like
52:19
they were telling the kids vaping is
52:20
good
52:23
well it doesn't produce a lump of tar it
52:27
doesn't and there was zero talk of
52:29
nicotine nicotine is not the issue the
52:33
tar and whatever you know whatever other
52:36
cancer is the addictive issue so they
52:39
say bars not known as addicted to tar
52:41
become a roofer no right yeah exactly
52:50
but you get the point it's like
52:52
someone's not on my there promote of
52:54
course this is what these guys do
52:56
they've been in the business of these
52:58
guys must be beside themselves when they
53:00
hit were banned from advertising they
53:03
write they own the net one of the NASCAR
53:05
races they they were advertising on TV
53:08
they had brought smoke in Chesterfield
53:11
you remember Johnny players special now
53:14
JPS the black with the gold letters it
53:16
was all the recent cars had it yeah JPS
53:19
Johnny players special and the
53:20
cigarettes and members of 15 year old
53:22
ahead man with smoke some Johnny Playa
53:24
specials well there's like there's like
53:25
smoking a dog turd like unbelievably
53:30
crap
53:32
good tell Moses cigarette sir well I'd
53:34
ever smoked so I can't really meet I'm
53:35
not a connoisseur so I can't say no I
53:38
can but these guys that you have to be
53:40
beside themselves because we're talking
53:41
about some of the greatest marketing
53:42
people in the world that have to sit
53:45
down and come up with schemes because
53:48
they can't really just you can't just
53:50
cut them loose it's got to be very
53:52
frustrating right but so this is their
53:57
latest so these are doing this they
53:58
either keep them busy yeah well I see
54:01
there's a bigger future for vaping it's
54:03
big I think you're right it's really
54:06
well if only we hit the door I think is
54:08
dorky especially the smoke smoke babies
54:11
dorky it is Shh they do not spoken as
54:14
vapor but my favorite is guys are those
54:16
souped up things they fill a room you
54:19
know this vapor but the vape goes it
54:21
dissipates pretty quickly yeah but it's
54:24
yeah but I do remember going to visit
54:27
the vape
54:28
I remember visiting Dexter at the vapor
54:30
conference in Dallas a couple years back
54:32
and the whole hall was just just one
54:35
cloud there's his hang in there
54:37
you know smelling of like popcorn and
54:41
cotton candy I'm not a big fan of the
54:46
car was an event in Dallas it was big
54:48
was that the convention center a lot of
54:50
people vape and that's when I got the
54:51
hoverboard remember oh yeah what ever
54:54
happened to that thing yeah I gave it
54:55
away
54:56
it's a flying bomb man I don't want to
54:59
be on that thing little a battery just
55:01
wait for the battery to ignite my house
55:03
I don't need that yesterday I saw some
55:08
guy go buying a one wheel Segway yeah
55:12
between his legs it well yeah but you're
55:16
but you're right like a skateboard so
55:17
you're sideways is between your legs but
55:19
you're sideways and the and the wheel is
55:22
parallel to the skateboard hmm that's
55:24
all we need more of that well I was
55:27
thinking about the ductless mobility
55:30
which is what we're talking about and
55:33
here's what I don't know so the
55:35
companies that are big in this are uber
55:38
and lyft and they've purchased pieces of
55:41
the big frontrunner bird and lime um and
55:45
knowing that the uber model itself only
55:50
is working because they're severely
55:53
undercutting the actual price of the I
55:57
mean they're selling rides below cost in
55:59
most cases unless they unless I use you
56:02
know the app I used to use on my phone
56:05
they go huh that's curry just you know
56:06
do times five because that's how they
56:09
price their rides you know Tina will use
56:11
an app and she'll get the same ride for
56:13
less same with Airbnb and all that stuff
56:15
but you know they're really not making
56:19
any money on any rides I think they're
56:21
losing about a billion dollars a quarter
56:22
and the reason they're still around is
56:24
because they've been able to get some
56:26
you know new group of idiots for you
56:28
know the the fifth round of investment
56:30
to put money in so they can keep it it
56:32
isn't bit a bit like a Ponzi scheme or
56:35
at least its it's a scheme where they
56:37
just need to keep pumping money and to
56:38
keep afloat you agree with the with this
56:42
assessment because I want to make sure
56:43
I'm seeing it right because I've no I
56:45
don't you think they're making money you
56:47
think they're profitable there are
56:49
reports around that float around the
56:51
investment community that show that you
56:53
can if you set up one of these bull crap
56:55
operations you you're in the black get
56:58
within sixty days what I'm talking about
57:00
cars first not about the bikes I'm
57:02
talking about the cars no I don't know
57:05
anything about the financing of that
57:07
that's where they're losing a billion
57:08
dollars a quarter as my understanding so
57:10
they've bought into this what you
57:13
believe is it profitable or you've heard
57:15
can be a money-making operation but I'm
57:18
just gonna go you know whatever happened
57:20
to or whatever yeah whatever happened to
57:24
we had the big bike sharing startups in
57:28
China it was exactly the same thing they
57:31
had two billion initially in venture you
57:34
have then eight eighteen months they
57:35
started to start to really catch fire
57:39
and then more people came in and then
57:41
more money and they started to acquire
57:43
each other and then they had an IPO one
57:45
of them raised four billion dollars in
57:47
IPO and now these companies are all done
57:51
broke there's huge mountains of these
57:53
bikes that are just you know just piled
57:57
up because it out of business they're
57:59
not using to the homeless I don't think
58:03
they have homeless in China
58:04
oh no homelessness no job so I mean it
58:08
wouldn't invent and and yeah and what
58:10
happens investors just stopped stopped
58:12
investing well you don't seem to be able
58:14
to make a return and this was on the
58:15
scooters and the bikes so I don't know
58:18
it just doesn't seem like him you got a
58:20
lot of people in China if you can't make
58:21
it work I remember pictures of China
58:24
there were more bikes than we thought in
58:26
Amsterdam I was like oh these people
58:27
really have a lot of bikes then you
58:31
remember the video the old via film
58:33
footage of the oh here's Beijing and
58:35
people on bikes everywhere they couldn't
58:37
make it work I'm not so sure I every
58:42
time I'd you know if there's an uber I
58:44
just don't invest in this well no but
58:47
also yeah I think the whole system just
58:49
it's doesn't seem sustainable well if
58:53
you think about it does
58:54
right to have this though this crap
58:56
Langer you know buying all these things
58:59
and then having them laying all over the
59:01
place it just doesn't seem like I
59:03
haven't come to pick them up and charge
59:06
him yeah yeah it's expensive expensive
59:09
yes that's gotta cost money and yeah now
59:12
downtown Austin they have a new problem
59:14
whenever one of these bikes is or these
59:17
scooters is his parked in the middle of
59:20
the sidewalk there seems to be someone
59:22
going around and putting his boot and
59:25
bending the disc brake on the back
59:31
is a disk brake on the back yeah exposed
59:34
disc brake very thin and it's apparently
59:37
if you put your boot on it while it's
59:39
lying down you can bend it and then the
59:41
wheel won't go rendering the whole thing
59:43
inoperable someone is doing that
59:45
downtown some vandal is doing that I
59:49
have no idea and I bet you the police
59:51
aren't interested in catching him either
59:53
no no no we have other things to do sir
59:56
yes I'm not sure what we got to go
59:59
protect the ground for the soccer
1:00:00
stadium make sure no one's peeing on it
1:00:03
something like that always something
1:00:08
that's awesome that's the thing that's
1:00:09
always overlooked in these great utopian
1:00:12
schemes is that is the preponderance I'm
1:00:16
not talking about just occasional I'm
1:00:18
talking about preponderance of vandalism
1:00:20
that's why we have the police we have
1:00:23
weight I mean to just admit just humans
1:00:26
in general have especially in Frida
1:00:29
freedom-loving countries we have a
1:00:31
preponderance of vandalism just go you
1:00:33
can drive through any city and look at
1:00:35
all the graffiti it's all good vandalism
1:00:37
even though there's a lot of art in
1:00:39
there but now in Austin in Austin we
1:00:41
have a we call it graffiti a graffiti
1:00:44
park and we call it art where it's
1:00:46
really just a bunch of it's a place
1:00:48
where there's some run-down buildings
1:00:50
where kids have smoking dope and
1:00:51
drinking and spray-painting the wall but
1:00:53
in Austin it's art well there are pieces
1:00:57
I've seen I've collected some actually
1:01:00
of graffiti that is art it's a very
1:01:04
specific style of art and it's very
1:01:07
pretty and but that's not what most of
1:01:09
it is most of it is these you know that
1:01:11
they call throw up sand and just tags
1:01:14
and just a mess
1:01:17
well clearly it's beatniks who are doing
1:01:20
this in Austin so they're taking a law
1:01:22
into their own hands and with that I
1:01:24
would like to thank you for your courage
1:01:26
and say in the morning to the man who
1:01:27
put the C in COBOL John C Dvorak any
1:01:32
morning you mr. Adam curry also in the
1:01:34
morning all ships to see boots on the
1:01:35
ground feet in the air subs in the water
1:01:37
and all the dames and nights out there
1:01:39
and in the morning to our troll room and
1:01:42
all the trolls taking refuge there at
1:01:45
the time being which seems to be more
1:01:47
than I expected actually must have some
1:01:50
finger snapping beatnik freaks in the
1:01:52
troll room but we appreciate you guys
1:01:54
showing up for this end of year show and
1:01:56
you can join our troll room at No Agenda
1:01:59
stream com also in the morning - Darrin
1:02:02
O'Neil brought us the artwork for
1:02:03
episode 1098 we titled that one climate
1:02:06
grief and he made a no agenda gift card
1:02:10
with everything that goes along with it
1:02:12
and it was a nice piece and it was
1:02:13
something that came up in the show we
1:02:16
were talking about the gift card scam
1:02:17
and we already used the climate grief
1:02:21
title and so what really was the best
1:02:23
piece of art although I think there
1:02:25
again were some other good ones
1:02:29
yeah we it was a yeah usually you
1:02:34
remember I said I usually remember yeah
1:02:37
let me see what it was no there was some
1:02:39
good there was some there's something
1:02:40
really good that we liked in the last
1:02:41
show all right well let's thank a few
1:02:44
people meanwhile no agenda art generator
1:02:46
calm
1:02:47
we appreciate it Darren thank you so
1:02:49
much sir Neville James of Bray Park Hill
1:02:52
in Australia came it with no note and I
1:02:56
said I've an email asking if you could
1:02:57
get a note him but he couldn't get a eg
1:02:59
always she's probably I don't know what
1:03:00
he's doing it what time is it there
1:03:02
anyway $710 will read his note when he
1:03:06
comes in later he did have a note for
1:03:07
the last time he donated a substantial
1:03:09
amount and it was he did one I don't
1:03:13
well is rerun his old one yeah hold on a
1:03:16
second John I'm having some spreadsheet
1:03:18
issues here this is very funny what
1:03:24
happened well this is very odd so it's
1:03:30
it's just uh I can't even explain it
1:03:32
it's a Windows thing the only way I can
1:03:35
view the spreadsheet is if it's
1:03:36
completely filled the screen because if
1:03:39
I'm if I click the little shrink now go
1:03:43
back to my then it's just a teeny teeny
1:03:47
away here I grabbed it okay my goodness
1:03:50
Windows is a trip alright I'm here with
1:03:54
you what do you need what do you need
1:03:56
what do you need
1:03:57
he needs a just a Putin jingle don't
1:04:00
worry be happy and just keep up the good
1:04:04
work okay
1:04:05
we
1:04:08
and no karma well keeping karma to me
1:04:12
this came in in August so this is real
1:04:28
you've got karma yeah hopefully that's
1:04:33
the Feist for him yeah you made come in
1:04:35
with a note later Joe Agner three
1:04:37
hundred he came in $710 so he's he can
1:04:41
we say whatever he wants how is Joe
1:04:43
Wagner three ninety dot eighty a Happy
1:04:46
New Year John and Adam and to all the
1:04:47
woke a snow agenda listeners if my math
1:04:50
is correct this donation makes me a
1:04:51
night accounting attached your show is
1:04:55
worth more than every penny that got me
1:04:57
here and I hope more people support it
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and this and support this model in
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general please Knight me a surf face
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replacer replacer of faces
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there's a backstory there I'm sure I
1:05:11
would like to know what it is but it's
1:05:13
not too much trouble please add candy
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and Astroglide to the round table that's
1:05:19
candy with a small C okay throw some
1:05:23
health Karma toward the n/a community
1:05:25
after a Maxine Mihama Lenny Allah and an
1:05:28
Obama you might die as my jingle request
1:05:31
I look forward to another year of shows
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you might die
1:05:38
you've got karma this is a good a good
1:05:45
one for mr. Robert gusik High Point
1:05:47
North Carolina $333 integers I'd like
1:05:49
you to read this thing we have to sort
1:05:51
through something I am very pleased to
1:05:53
let you know that the Carmi requested
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for my back surgery worked awesome yes I
1:06:00
only had a very minor infection but
1:06:02
other than that my incision has healed
1:06:04
beautifully it's been two months it's my
1:06:05
surgery and the actual surgery results
1:06:07
are absolutely amazing before the
1:06:10
surgery I had such severe leg pain I
1:06:12
could only stand for about 30 seconds
1:06:14
and walk about 20 feet before I
1:06:16
collapsed wow I'd been in a wheelchair
1:06:19
for nine months after the surgery right
1:06:21
when I woke up in the recovery room I
1:06:23
could tell if the pain was completely
1:06:24
gone in my legs I've been slowly
1:06:26
recovering getting my strength back very
1:06:28
carefully until the fusion sets in then
1:06:30
I'll be able to start physical therapy
1:06:31
so now not only is no agenda help me
1:06:34
with my mental well-being and strength
1:06:36
the Karma has also helped me get through
1:06:38
a very rough spot in my life I'm proud
1:06:41
to make a donation of 3 3333 and
1:06:44
continue to donate regularly with this
1:06:46
donation I've now reached the Baron
1:06:47
level and request the title Baron Bob of
1:06:49
high point
1:06:50
accounting attached yes I'm steadfastly
1:06:53
hitting people in the mouth and I'm
1:06:54
learning which slaves are beyond
1:06:56
recovery yeah it's sad when you see that
1:06:59
isn't it it's terrible and those who
1:07:01
still are receptive to logic and clear
1:07:03
thinking as provided by the No Agenda
1:07:05
show yeah yeah I may not always agree
1:07:08
with everything that said what you don't
1:07:10
have to say because we don't but I no
1:07:12
longer am a slave to the m5m and instead
1:07:15
I'm doing my own thinking for myself and
1:07:17
it feels amazing
1:07:22
I am so happy to hear this - robber
1:07:24
gusik that is fantastic
1:07:27
we can't take credit but I know somehow
1:07:29
when a lot of people are thinking about
1:07:31
you things do happen so I'm glad the
1:07:34
Karma at least you feel good about it
1:07:36
your mental health is saved and you will
1:07:39
become a baron did he give a
1:07:40
protectorate that he wants to know you
1:07:42
read it a hi-point yeah
1:07:45
where's High Point North Carroll High
1:07:47
Point Nath got North Carolina got it
1:07:49
okay well I'm gonna give him me just a
1:07:51
follow-up karma dosage here you've got
1:07:56
karma already baronet test Susan Johnson
1:08:02
and Hillsboro Oregon 33333 and she sent
1:08:06
us a check with a note happy New Year to
1:08:09
you both
1:08:09
it's been a while since you've heard
1:08:11
from me as I have been busy sitting in
1:08:14
the in my new place I'm finding other
1:08:17
times to listen to you as I know is the
1:08:21
longhand moment as I noticed was me as
1:08:24
pretty and as I no longer have the long
1:08:27
commute this really hurts us by the way
1:08:29
people that lose their long it does
1:08:31
thank you for being steady faithful and
1:08:34
important voices in this crazy world
1:08:36
many times an associate executive
1:08:39
producer I am happy to finally be an
1:08:41
executive producer
1:08:42
here's to 2019 Cheers thank you very
1:08:45
much Susan Johnson from Hillsborough she
1:08:48
got some jingles that should have give
1:08:49
them to you okay what do you what do we
1:08:51
got
1:08:51
pew-pew you can get that mm-hmm boom
1:08:55
Shakalaka Adam you found a little girl
1:08:58
one have you found a little girl one
1:09:03
yeah you know what I here's the problem
1:09:05
it's I don't think it was a little girl
1:09:10
yeah was I have it it was Knicks kid
1:09:12
that's what I got okay boom yeah we got
1:09:14
pew pew boom Shakalaka and there's just
1:09:17
a little girl yay and then karma oh just
1:09:19
the yay yeah just the right we'll do
1:09:23
that
1:09:29
you've got karma that is a little girl
1:09:37
it's a new search thing it's that it's
1:09:39
everything what it's call again I just
1:09:41
like that one you haven't played for so
1:09:42
long which one's a little gory yay yeah
1:09:46
no no not that I mean the boom shocka
1:09:49
like what was I thinking oh the
1:09:51
broomshakalaka's
1:09:51
okay boy I do have something I want to
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interrupt I have a when I was going
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abu-jamal what otherwise known as Wesley
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Cooke free Mumia you ever seen those
1:23:41
stickers you're going to any like
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Philadelphia or Baltimore you see these
1:23:44
stickers on the holes this free movie
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yeah no I don't know I don't know
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Mumia abu-jamal he's a guy who shot a
1:23:58
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long about ever since but God will
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challenge anybody to go to the wiki page
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clip I got a clip on here they are again
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because democracy now would be one of
1:24:10
these operations that would be trying to
1:24:12
free Mumia and those are some of the
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headlines this is democracy now
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democracynow.org the war and peace
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report I'm Amy Goodman we begin today's
1:24:21
show with an update on a major
1:24:22
development that could be the path to
1:24:25
freedom for former Black Panther Mumia
1:24:27
abu-jamal
1:24:27
the award-winning journalist who was
1:24:29
convicted of the 1981 murder of
1:24:32
Philadelphia police officer Daniel
1:24:34
Faulkner but has always maintained his
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innocence on Thursday a Philadelphia
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Common Pleas Court judge ruled Mumia
1:24:42
abu-jamal
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can re argue his appeal in the case
1:24:45
before the Pennsylvania Supreme Court
1:24:47
because then Chief Justice Ronald
1:24:50
Castile failed to excuse himself from
1:24:54
the case due to his prior role as
1:24:56
Philadelphia district attorney
1:24:58
when abu-jamal was appealing his case a
1:25:00
blue Jamal's lawyers argued that
1:25:03
statements Castile made about people
1:25:05
accused of killing police officers
1:25:07
indicated he should have recused himself
1:25:10
they cited campaign speeches and letters
1:25:12
he wrote that called for the death
1:25:14
penalty in such cases abu-jamal spent
1:25:17
nearly three decades on death row before
1:25:19
his sentence in the shooting death of
1:25:21
officer Daniel Faulkner was thrown out
1:25:23
over flaw jury instructions prosecutors
1:25:26
then agreed in 2011 to a sentence of
1:25:29
life without parole
1:25:30
judge Tucker's decision on Thursday was
1:25:34
split because he
1:25:35
night abu-jamal x' claim that Casteel
1:25:38
had quote personal significant
1:25:40
involvement of the case while he was in
1:25:41
the district attorney's office for more
1:25:43
we join we're joined here in New York by
1:25:46
Johanna Fernandez a professor of history
1:25:48
at Baruch College CUNY the City
1:25:50
University of New York and one of the
1:25:52
coordinators of the campaign to bring
1:25:54
Mumia home she has been in the courtroom
1:25:57
for part of this case and is the editor
1:26:00
of writing on the wall selected prison
1:26:03
writings of Mumia abu-jamal
1:26:05
professor Fernandez welcome back to
1:26:07
Democracy Now can you talk it about the
1:26:08
significance of Thursday's ruling well
1:26:11
this is a case that is important for
1:26:15
Mumia abu-jamal but also for dozens of
1:26:18
people sitting in prison in Pennsylvania
1:26:22
essentially the judge established that
1:26:27
if there is prejudice in hearing the
1:26:33
defendant has the right to a new hearing
1:26:37
and you can kill it yeah hmm all right
1:26:41
so this guy the stories that make it
1:26:44
short I could read from the wiki page
1:26:45
but I'd recommend people go there and
1:26:47
look at it I just type in Mumia you'll
1:26:49
get it I there's like witnesses it would
1:26:53
happen he was a cab driver who became a
1:26:55
reward winning journalist when he was in
1:26:56
prison he did some kind of reporting for
1:27:00
a couple local radio stations gotten
1:27:01
fired by one of them became a very
1:27:05
staunch black panther during that era
1:27:08
and he was driving his cab at 3:00 4:00
1:27:11
at 4:00 in the morning when like
1:27:13
apparently his brother was pulled over
1:27:16
by a cop for something and the two of
1:27:18
them were got into an argument
1:27:20
Mumia got out of his cab walked over and
1:27:22
shot the cop in the head and once a day
1:27:26
wrecker and this was witnessed by
1:27:29
numerous people including a hooker he
1:27:32
was a sex worker
1:27:35
he was taken in and his gun had five
1:27:38
rounds missing from it he had you know
1:27:40
passed all the obligatory you know test
1:27:42
powder on his hands all that stuff and
1:27:44
he still had the gun they had the gun
1:27:47
they had his murder weapon
1:27:49
and it goes on and on and out and when
1:27:51
he admitted it to somebody in prison
1:27:54
that he did it and there's all these
1:27:55
these things but for some reason and I
1:27:58
don't know what it is like I can't
1:28:00
believe it's just cuz he says I'm
1:28:01
innocent that this is a been a left-wing
1:28:05
cause hmm
1:28:07
and they've I mean it's possible that he
1:28:10
could have been framed I've never seen a
1:28:12
frame like this it's never resistors too
1:28:16
much too much you know too many people I
1:28:19
know one's come forward saying that they
1:28:21
lied it's just outrageous and they this
1:28:24
continues this has gone on since the 70s
1:28:28
guys been in jail for 30 years and the
1:28:30
left-wing keeps bringing it up as close
1:28:34
to some sort of a cause celeb and I
1:28:36
don't even know why I don't know why
1:28:37
well I can I can wager a guess as to why
1:28:42
it's cropping up now as we just had
1:28:46
prison reform Trump has been president
1:28:49
Trump has been working with people of
1:28:52
great importance like Kim Kardashian and
1:28:54
also entertained some input from Kanye
1:28:58
about the certain prisoners who've been
1:29:01
in for a long time maybe they're trying
1:29:05
to hitch onto that bandwagon just bring
1:29:07
it back again and maybe just say Trump
1:29:10
you hate Muslim sounding people because
1:29:13
you didn't help this guy I mean who
1:29:14
knows it could be that it could be any
1:29:16
number of things well I don't think this
1:29:18
guy's getting out
1:29:22
but just to me this has been going on
1:29:25
for his way too long and it's just but
1:29:28
yeah maybe it explains what's coming
1:29:30
back into the news at this point as hell
1:29:32
yeah right now this has been continuous
1:29:37
interesting yeah yeah I got we got
1:29:39
lefties out there somebody can explain
1:29:40
it to me I looked up I don't want to
1:29:42
it's not innocent I looked at Mumia
1:29:46
abu-jamal and the wikis and I got high
1:29:48
reader in the US it seems you use
1:29:51
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1:29:55
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1:30:22
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1:30:23
became an award-winning journalist in
1:30:25
jail yeah he was a book about being in
1:30:27
jail hmm
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well it was kind of you know jeez just
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somebody got thrown right back in jail
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and it was a huge humiliation for Norman
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Mailer gotcha
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well speaking of journalists odd
1:31:05
journalists The Washington Post on just
1:31:09
between Christmas and New Year's on the
1:31:10
28th released a little bit of news it
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was very actually very it reminded me a
1:31:15
lot of the climate change report
1:31:18
you know just pushed out on a Friday
1:31:20
kind of hush-hush we don't want to which
1:31:22
is something that Washington Post yelled
1:31:24
and screamed about they put out a news
1:31:28
report admitting that they had
1:31:30
discovered text messages between their
1:31:33
Star columnist Jamal Bugsy
1:31:38
Jamarcus 2g that became very clear to
1:31:43
them that the exact chief executive at
1:31:48
the Qatar Qatar Foundation International
1:31:51
Maggie Mitchell Salem had been texting
1:31:53
him and shaping his columns proposing
1:31:57
topics drafting material prodding him to
1:32:00
take a harder line against the Saudi
1:32:01
government and this was below the fold
1:32:04
even in the article that they admit to
1:32:06
this but so we were right the guy was a
1:32:09
shill yeah and he was he wasn't even he
1:32:13
was I mean who was writing these columns
1:32:16
it looks like Qatar was writing them nor
1:32:20
this Qatar Foundation International yeah
1:32:24
who you know Qatar and Turkey they're
1:32:26
buds now they're all against Saudi
1:32:28
Arabia and I think it's disgraceful that
1:32:32
the Washington Post didn't just say hey
1:32:34
you know what we really messed up on
1:32:36
this one because they did does it it
1:32:39
doesn't work there's no anti-trump angle
1:32:43
imposed but it's yeah well that's my
1:32:47
point it is the Washington Post that
1:32:49
discovered this
1:32:51
that they they're big you know they're
1:32:54
big columnist there freedom fighter
1:32:56
oh no we we love him he's great he was
1:33:00
just a shill for the Muslim Brotherhood
1:33:03
and they have every right to be
1:33:06
journalists as well but don't tell me
1:33:08
that you're the Washington Post and
1:33:10
you're holier than all that you got just
1:33:12
that you got the same problems everybody
1:33:14
else has only you didn't catch it what
1:33:16
did you they did you build it Jim and
1:33:19
they finally caught it they did it
1:33:19
sheepishly that's very very very very
1:33:22
low yes especially for below the fold on
1:33:26
page forty and then a Friday night have
1:33:28
not the Bulldog edition is disgusting
1:33:35
okay well let's since we're in that part
1:33:38
of the world a little bit let's talk
1:33:39
about the Sudan riots because there's a
1:33:41
funny thing that happened on the way to
1:33:42
the Sudan riots which are going on as we
1:33:46
speak it's not being covered by the
1:33:47
media of course there's too many
1:33:49
retrospectives
1:33:50
it was a great twenty eighteen whatever
1:33:52
happened then let us play this in Sudan
1:33:55
scores of people have been killed in
1:33:56
anti-government protests that erupted
1:33:58
last week government officials put the
1:34:00
number of dead at nineteen though
1:34:02
Amnesty International said earlier this
1:34:03
week the number of dead reached 37 the
1:34:06
government has declared a state of
1:34:07
emergency and reportedly sensor to shut
1:34:10
down newspapers that were covering the
1:34:12
demonstrations the protests which were
1:34:14
triggered by a sharp rise in the price
1:34:17
of bread are taking aim at the worsening
1:34:19
economic situation of the country and
1:34:22
the military regime of President Omar
1:34:23
Hassan al-bashir with many calling for
1:34:26
the overthrow of the ruling National
1:34:27
Congress party there now the code word
1:34:34
just came in to that story and I
1:34:37
realized we haven't really talked about
1:34:39
it much we did it when the first when
1:34:41
the Arab Spring began yeah
1:34:43
the severe rise in the cost of bread in
1:34:47
Egypt bread Egypt I think Tunisia
1:34:50
tunisia everybody has these these it's
1:34:54
always in there I got bread problems
1:34:57
it's a bread problem that because of the
1:35:00
huge rises the cost of bread for what
1:35:03
they were never told what the rise is
1:35:05
ever was it from 10 cents a loaf to five
1:35:08
dollars a loaf was it from a dollar a
1:35:10
loaf to two dollars of love
1:35:12
what is it severe rise in the cost of
1:35:15
bread and this happened before
1:35:16
I think that's code I think the CIA code
1:35:19
or somebody's right that gets into the
1:35:21
story to let everyone know that okay we
1:35:24
got to mobilize over something here or
1:35:25
so let's you know meet your meet your
1:35:27
hand learn let's talk about it right who
1:35:29
know typically after the bread code goes
1:35:32
out someone likes himself on fire but
1:35:34
that they they pop that too early this
1:35:36
time and it wasn't in Sudan weird we
1:35:39
have a guy like himself on fries I don't
1:35:41
know if that whiffed if the chronology
1:35:42
is correct
1:35:43
somebody's always lighting themselves on
1:35:45
fire but I don't know if that's in
1:35:46
relation to the bread dough no no I
1:35:48
don't think so
1:35:49
but that's why I'm saying that we get
1:35:51
bread and then we typically get lighting
1:35:53
on fire
1:35:55
or the other way around could be
1:35:58
when the bread thing is the one that
1:36:00
kids stood out when she gave this report
1:36:01
because yeah I agree
1:36:03
they've gone nuts over breasts because
1:36:06
everyone goes under the streets and
1:36:08
starts wrecking the place because of the
1:36:09
price of bread really
1:36:11
well bread is important to some people
1:36:15
it's easy for us no I know but sometimes
1:36:18
make your own bread this is the price of
1:36:20
wheat if that's gone up that would be
1:36:21
different this different story
1:36:23
it just doesn't there's something about
1:36:26
it it's just something about it doesn't
1:36:28
know ya the prices and bread has gone up
1:36:31
so I'm gonna go riot and wreck my break
1:36:33
the town yeah here bread price hike
1:36:36
starts violent sparks violent protests
1:36:39
let's see we can find out the actual
1:36:41
bread price increase yeah that'd be neat
1:36:45
need to know that Sudanese police fire
1:36:49
tear gas on people protesting higher
1:36:51
bread prices Wow hmm so he's sounding
1:36:56
like a like a color revolution thing so
1:36:59
you only haven't had a color come out of
1:37:01
it yet no Sudan would be beige
1:37:09
I found a good podcast a drone podcast
1:37:13
called droning on which kind of
1:37:16
attracted me I'm like that's that's
1:37:18
funny if you have that kind of humor
1:37:20
about yourself about being a podcast and
1:37:23
this guy is you know you again I think
1:37:27
we've talked about this like the the
1:37:29
actual vocation of journalists is just
1:37:31
invalid let's just go to someone who
1:37:33
actually knows what they're talking
1:37:34
about I mean we don't know much about
1:37:36
drones there's people in our in our
1:37:38
network and the value for value network
1:37:40
who know a lot about drones but no one
1:37:42
offered anything up this guy he does a
1:37:44
drone podcast he's in the UK and he has
1:37:46
a couple of theories about the phantom
1:37:49
drones at Gatwick Airport so a very
1:37:51
quick recap of the incident at Gatwick
1:37:53
thousands of flights were canceled or
1:37:55
diverted the military was called in
1:37:57
multiple police forces involved not just
1:38:00
Sussex five million pounds spent on anti
1:38:03
drone systems the international press
1:38:05
and media camping on site with telephoto
1:38:08
lenses looking for a drone and all based
1:38:10
on eyewitness accounts but yet not a
1:38:13
single video or photo of the drone so if
1:38:15
it wasn't a drone what exactly happened
1:38:18
well there's been a lot of speculation
1:38:19
people have suggested eco-warriors
1:38:21
complaining about additional wrong ways
1:38:23
being built at the airfield other
1:38:24
speculation has been a major systems
1:38:26
failure at Gatwick shortly after the
1:38:29
Gatwick incident Birmingham reported an
1:38:31
air traffic control error which led to
1:38:32
grounded flights such a failure of the
1:38:34
airport would have resulted in them
1:38:36
paying millions of compensation to
1:38:38
Airlines and to passengers and of course
1:38:40
the airport would not want that but the
1:38:42
bigger news for me is the announcement
1:38:44
yesterday that vinci group are buying
1:38:47
50.1% of Gatwick Lynch er a French
1:38:50
company that currently owned 46 airports
1:38:53
around the world and in October 2018
1:38:55
analysts estimated the value of Gatwick
1:38:58
at between 7 to 10 billion pounds the
1:39:01
sale to vinci of fifty point zero one
1:39:03
add only 2.9 billion plus the value of
1:39:06
the airfield at just less than 6 billion
1:39:08
which is far less than the estimation of
1:39:10
the analysts earlier this year so the
1:39:12
big question is did the drone crisis at
1:39:14
Gatwick devalue the airfield therefore
1:39:17
making the sale to Vinci more economical
1:39:20
I'd like all of those
1:39:22
Wow the one I like the think it could be
1:39:25
more of a combo though where another I
1:39:28
don't know if if whatever I said I don't
1:39:30
know enough about the air traffic
1:39:31
control mistake but I'll tell you when
1:39:34
it comes to millions of dollars in in an
1:39:37
aviation an airport yeah I'm pretty sure
1:39:39
that do anything to not have to hang for
1:39:41
that and maybe that would be the
1:39:44
catalyst you know the acquisition they
1:39:46
didn't want that getting out it sounds
1:39:48
like a cover-up
1:39:48
tonight I think the guys got a couple of
1:39:50
good ones yeah that was a great analysis
1:39:53
yeah the eco-warriors movie do beat all
1:39:56
since all 67 of the sighting reports
1:40:01
were all airport employees no passengers
1:40:05
hello yeah that's dubious yeah
1:40:12
what's this that's podcasting for you
1:40:14
people yeah that's where you have to go
1:40:16
to get the real information nowadays you
1:40:18
get nothing from the mainstream that's
1:40:20
for sure those guys are pathetic let's
1:40:22
go to Saudi Arabia leadership update get
1:40:25
back out of the country
1:40:26
leadership updates in Saudi Arabia King
1:40:29
Salman has consolidated power for his
1:40:31
son Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman
1:40:33
ordering a reshuffle of the cabinet
1:40:35
nearly three months after the murder of
1:40:37
John Ostrom Alka shogi which caused
1:40:39
international uproar and brought Saudi
1:40:41
leadership under close scrutiny notably
1:40:43
foreign minister Adel al-jubeir was
1:40:46
demoted to the position of Minister of
1:40:47
State for Foreign Affairs all Jubair
1:40:49
blame Khashoggi she's killing on rogue
1:40:51
Saudi agents he also previously
1:40:53
characterized the international outcry
1:40:55
of to show she's murder is fairly
1:40:56
hysterical the cabinet shake-up is seen
1:40:59
as a boon for the Crown Prince by
1:41:01
placing loyalists and key positions bin
1:41:03
Salman will retain his roles in the
1:41:04
government including Deputy Prime
1:41:06
Minister and defense minister earlier
1:41:08
this month the US Senate passed a
1:41:10
resolution saying it believes that crown
1:41:11
prince is responsible for cashew cheese
1:41:13
murder khashoggi a u.s. resident and
1:41:16
columnist for The Washington Post was
1:41:18
killed by Saudi agents after entering
1:41:20
the Saudi consulate in Istanbul Turkey
1:41:22
on October 2nd
1:41:24
okay so where does that leave everybody
1:41:26
I'm a little confused well as the solar
1:41:29
reports are confusing lives anybody
1:41:34
Ami's I got this changed the guys got
1:41:36
more powers got consolidation is gonna
1:41:37
go on with his project to build a Dubai
1:41:40
clone out in the middle of nowhere and
1:41:42
dumb but also he said he would rebuild
1:41:45
Syria
1:41:48
this is part of the deal the Saudi
1:41:50
Arabia is supposed to rebuild Syria
1:41:52
whatever needs rebuilt gonna work with
1:41:54
the Turks the two of them don't get
1:41:55
along very well some deal will clear out
1:41:59
the place and the Saudis will come in
1:42:00
and rebuild possibly the the Turks are
1:42:03
on the border now now that you know
1:42:04
they've given the the Kurds
1:42:06
enough heads-up leeway lead time also
1:42:10
Trump's deal I think he's like get out
1:42:13
yeah so they're on the border they're
1:42:16
about to go in and do whatever they
1:42:18
think is necessary
1:42:19
yeah well that should be very very more
1:42:21
bloodshed so they work they work well
1:42:24
the Russians it'll be fine so Amy is is
1:42:26
is working
1:42:29
she's working that was from Friday I
1:42:30
think oh okay well still but she doesn't
1:42:33
know they never work on Sunday but she's
1:42:36
working the week yes yes two weeks the
1:42:37
other people no no it's not it's not a
1:42:39
retrospective yeah mainstream guy they
1:42:42
Andy because one of them takes the week
1:42:44
off and they all take the week off cuz
1:42:45
it's in this you know the the people
1:42:47
think less of them if they had to
1:42:49
actually work so the president has been
1:42:51
at the White House over the holidays
1:42:53
he's made quite a point of it I'm
1:42:55
sitting here over everyone's at home
1:42:56
Nancy's in Hawaii I'm here he's doing
1:42:59
what we're doing
1:43:00
yes milking it like a pro yes milking it
1:43:03
like a podcaster he is but he didn't do
1:43:06
a couple of interesting things first
1:43:09
he stock whispered the market up a
1:43:12
thousand points which I have a back
1:43:15
story report on I'm told new reporting
1:43:17
now a high-ranking Trump administration
1:43:19
official reached out to a well-known
1:43:21
hedge fund manager for advice on how to
1:43:23
get stocks to go up that the call took
1:43:25
place after the Christmas Eve sell-off
1:43:27
the worst ever for Christmas Eve the
1:43:30
administration was said to be determined
1:43:32
to get stocks to reverse and go higher
1:43:34
I'm also told that the investor who was
1:43:36
called told the administration official
1:43:38
to get President Trump to stop
1:43:40
criticizing j-pal on Twitter the Fed
1:43:42
chair to stop all the turnover inside
1:43:45
the White House madis the latest to
1:43:46
depart the defense secretary and of
1:43:48
course to strike a deal with China well
1:43:52
sounds like he got part of that right
1:43:54
you know the the word came out like oh
1:43:57
no no the Fed chairs no no danger no
1:44:00
problem whatsoever and then he also said
1:44:02
by the dip and that worked out
1:44:05
reasonably well as for China yes it
1:44:08
seems we have some deals it looks like
1:44:10
we got a rice deal we might have which
1:44:12
is new and huge we may have a soy deal
1:44:15
there's something going on and here's
1:44:18
I'm sorry and these soybeans deals
1:44:20
bigger than the rice deal well that
1:44:23
we've never had a rice deal so it just
1:44:25
depends on you maybe maybe sighs but I
1:44:27
think the fact that rice would how crazy
1:44:30
is that we're sending rice to China
1:44:32
the Japanese won't take our rice you
1:44:34
know that why don't why won't they take
1:44:36
our rice because they feel that they
1:44:38
started Japanese unlike us feel that
1:44:42
would they start importing rice and it
1:44:44
will ruin their artisanal businesses of
1:44:49
children in the rice field art is
1:44:52
artisanal is now code for child child
1:44:54
abuse and child labor well here's a
1:44:58
report on what the president is doing
1:44:59
with China is there any promise that
1:45:02
they could make about snooping or or not
1:45:05
stealing our technology that could be
1:45:07
believed well what the president has
1:45:09
been writing about in his books and the
1:45:12
scene in his campaign speeches as he's
1:45:14
looking for a verifiable agreement he's
1:45:17
looking for things that we can actually
1:45:18
make sure the Chinese do but by marelize
1:45:21
people like this you can have
1:45:24
verification measures yes this was done
1:45:26
in the case of previous trade agreements
1:45:28
the trick is going to be seen
1:45:31
performance actually take place so if
1:45:34
they buy a hundred airliners we can see
1:45:36
that happen if they actually shut down
1:45:39
electoral theft companies and put people
1:45:43
in jail have some show trials there's a
1:45:45
Chinese proverb you probably know called
1:45:47
kill the chicken to scare the monkeys
1:45:49
sha Zhi Jing hole in Chinese hey Xiao
1:45:52
Zhi Jing oh yourself right if they have
1:45:54
a lot of these trials and put people in
1:45:56
prison for 20 years for property theft
1:45:59
against Western companies or technology
1:46:01
transfer this forced that will have a
1:46:03
huge impact that we can see no I'll be
1:46:07
looking forward to that but there was an
1:46:10
NBC report which was largely propaganda
1:46:13
piece on Cummings Diesel okay okay the
1:46:17
famous diesel manufacturer yeah they're
1:46:20
in Indiana I believe and they have
1:46:24
they're very famous diesel maker they
1:46:26
have a lot of the modern technology for
1:46:29
diesels comes from them but let's play
1:46:32
these clips and I got them chopped up to
1:46:34
a lot of small pieces just to show you
1:46:37
how the NBC slants things and this go
1:46:41
with the head and it also drops in
1:46:44
little propaganda bits
1:46:46
diesel one Columbus Indiana is thriving
1:46:49
there's a new brewery not far from a
1:46:53
century-old ice cream parlor
1:46:54
many towns like this have struggled with
1:46:56
jobs moving overseas but in Columbus one
1:46:59
company has held it all together because
1:47:02
of trade with China our economy would go
1:47:04
down the drain if the Cummins wasn't a
1:47:06
part of our community Cummins is the
1:47:08
world's largest independent diesel
1:47:10
engine maker and pulling 10,000 people
1:47:12
in Indiana alone we export about 65% of
1:47:16
the engines that we produce here but
1:47:17
this American success story founded here
1:47:20
99 years ago faces soaring costs and 200
1:47:23
million dollars in losses this year
1:47:25
because of us tariffs on Chinese goods
1:47:27
tariffs are harmful their attacks and
1:47:30
they create additional cost that will
1:47:32
eventually be borne by all customers
1:47:34
this summer the Trump administration
1:47:36
imposed tariffs on Chinese steel and
1:47:39
aluminum and on key parts Cummins needs
1:47:41
we have no suppliers available in the US
1:47:44
in fact there are not foundries that
1:47:46
operate in the u.s. let's stop there
1:47:49
well there are thousands of foundries
1:47:52
that operate in the US there's three in
1:47:56
my area and I can see two of them from
1:47:58
the house but one of them well she's
1:48:01
lying probably she's lying she's the
1:48:04
spokes halt for coming uh-huh
1:48:05
and now the thing about this there's no
1:48:08