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Adam Curry: perp walk.
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Unknown: Adam curry Jhansi
Devorah
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Adam Curry: are they march
23 2023 This is your award
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winning combination media
assassination episode 1540.
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Unknown: This is no agenda
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Adam Curry: all about China.
broadcasting live from the heart
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of the West Indies Montego Bay,
Jamaica in the morning mind. I'm
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Adam curry
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John C Dvorak: came from
Northern Silicon Valley where
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we're celebrating National Puppy
DAY and the 20th anniversary of
0:29
the Iraqi war on Jhansi Dvorak.
0:35
Adam Curry: the 20th anniversary
of what the Iraqi war oh man who
0:40
was calling you take it off the
hook. It's like you have a
0:45
little thing like, you know, in
the morning, you're gonna do
0:47
your show. You get everything
ready. You get your clips ready,
0:50
take the phone off the hook.
Hello. Oh, my goodness. Oh, it's
1:01
a call. It's a courtesy call.
You haven't paid your bill. I
1:05
got that one yesterday, too.
1:06
John C Dvorak: We don't have
spectrum
1:11
Adam Curry: in the morning to
you.
1:14
John C Dvorak: anymore. You.
1:15
Adam Curry: Okay, so of course,
it's a show day and the Tick
1:18
Tock hearings are underway and
you need to turn your speakers
1:20
down just a little bit.
1:21
John C Dvorak: What a crock.
1:23
Adam Curry: Well, there's a
couple of key turning speakers
1:25
down there really loud. Yeah,
yeah,
1:26
John C Dvorak: yeah. Yeah. Can I
get this nice that they can do
1:28
by my brain? I actually have to
grab the mouse, you have
1:33
Adam Curry: to implement
something. Well, yeah, it's this
1:36
is not a good look. Of course.
The giant the CEO is a Chinese
1:41
guy. You know? It's like, I look
like a nice guy. He seems like a
1:46
great guy. And his his English
is great. I don't know. I don't
1:50
know if he's better. I don't
know if he's Chinese American or
1:53
No, it's not too bad. But it's
just his his. He has complete
1:57
command of the English language,
but it's just not a good look.
1:59
Everyone's like, oh, Chinese
Communist Party. Look at the
2:02
guy. He's like, he looks like a
Chinese communist party guy. You
2:05
just can't help it. This is this
is mind control.
2:09
John C Dvorak: Now, of course,
these communist people who start
2:11
seeing these they don't smile as
much as this guy does. No,
2:13
that's true. They're not a smile
and group that CCP people.
2:17
Adam Curry: But you know how it
goes a grimace? I mean, this is
2:20
a whole this is a racial
hearing. It's a racial hearing.
2:23
And of course, social media
stocks all show. Yes, social
2:28
media stocks are up today, of
course. And even C span, even C
2:35
span is all over this. And this
popped up this morning is no
2:39
agenda nation is of course
everywhere.
2:41
Unknown: What's not clear to me
is if any of that is still
2:43
happening.
2:44
Alright, let's talk to grant
next independent in Lincoln,
2:47
Nebraska.
2:48
Hi, thank you for taking my call
in warranty both welcome. I
2:52
think that the whole national
security stuff with the data
2:56
that Tiktok has really falls to
the wayside. It's just us, as
3:01
the guests there said, it's
like, it's a lot of
3:04
grandstanding by the
politicians. And the real issue
3:08
behind all of this is money,
advertising money. And that's
3:12
something that tick tock equal,
if not a superior competitor to
3:17
with Twitter and Facebook. And
that because of the amount of
3:21
engagement because the amount of
users tick tock has the ability
3:25
to bring in a lot of advertising
money because of the targeted
3:29
targeted advertising that they
can offer. That is basically
3:32
eating Facebook and Twitter's
lunch. This is an opinion that I
3:37
agree with, that was shared with
Adam curry from the no agenda
3:40
show.
3:43
Adam Curry: Right away, right
away, she goes to cut them off,
3:46
of course. But here's the
interesting thing, the girl you
3:48
heard at the beginning, and I
say girl, because she's girl is
3:52
the technology reporter from
Axios. And she agrees
3:56
Unknown: this is an opinion that
I agree with. That was shared
3:59
with Adam curry from the no
agenda show. But I think that
4:02
when
4:02
so grant, I've got a question
for you.
4:04
Adam Curry: I actually turned
him down. Did you hear that? The
4:07
no agenda show and they turned
his volume down. You can
4:10
actually hear it go down as
she's as she's told to interject
4:13
Unknown: an opinion that I agree
with. That was shared with Adam
4:16
curry from the no agenda show.
But I think that with
4:20
so grant, I've got a question
for you so much.
4:22
Adam Curry: They turned him
down. I turned him down.
4:24
John C Dvorak: I wasn't that
much.
4:26
Unknown: So grant, I've got a
question for you. Do you not
4:27
think it being owned by a
Chinese company is a national
4:31
security issue at all?
4:34
I think it's an issue but I
think that it I think that it
4:39
falls second to the amount of
money that is being advertising,
4:44
advertising, financial
connections that politicians
4:48
have with these big social media
companies got it even better had
4:51
Ashley
4:52
so you make a good point. Tik
Tok has been very, very
4:56
successful.
5:00
Adam Curry: Last fall
5:00
Unknown: also just been really
popular in general. And
5:05
Facebook.
5:06
Adam Curry: This is the Axios
technology reporter
5:08
Unknown: advertising.
5:09
Adam Curry: General. Our guys
sounds like someone who knows
5:13
what's going on. Granted,
5:15
John C Dvorak: she sounds like a
dingbat from the valley.
5:17
Unknown: They've also just been
really popular in general.
5:22
Facebook and Twitter and YouTube
have taken notice of competition
5:27
that they get from Tik Tok. And
that contributes to a lot of
5:31
what you hear from these other
social media companies. But
5:34
Adam Curry: the problem is, is
that, you know, they get these
5:37
technology and she's the Axios
is not a not a fly by night
5:41
operation. I mean, Axios is, oh,
she's probably getting paid good
5:44
money, but she's very serious
news or a news organization. And
5:49
but you know, she knows about
5:51
John C Dvorak: Iran jobs, of
course,
5:53
Adam Curry: it Oh, and she owns
that had shown all that.
5:55
John C Dvorak: I believe she's
one of the main owners. So I was
5:57
like, Oh,
5:58
Adam Curry: who's that? Who's on
the technology beat? Boy? Yeah.
6:01
Oh, that's her because she has a
phone. She understands tick
6:04
tock. That's exactly what it
feels like. It's like, this is
6:08
not someone who understands
6:11
John C Dvorak: me the old this
is happened to everybody out
6:13
there knows these stories. Back
in 1980. Ish. Era. It was like,
6:19
We need somebody know something
about technology and find
6:21
someone. Exactly, not
necessarily has a phone, but he
6:24
has a home computer. Yeah, he's
the guy making VP of technology.
6:30
He's got a home computer.
6:32
Adam Curry: Remember, that was a
whole era. So nothing has really
6:35
changed. She's got a phone, make
her make her reporter of
6:38
technology
6:40
Unknown: has been very, very
successful in the digital
6:42
advertising realm.
6:45
Adam Curry: What is digital
advertising realm? I mean, isn't
6:48
Can't you just say they've been
very successful. They've done $7
6:51
billion in advertising and
they're poised to do more.
6:54
That's the report. Know, the
advertising realm.
6:57
Unknown: They've also been
really popular in general. And
7:02
Adam Curry: so that's cop speak.
It's
7:04
John C Dvorak: like you add a
bunch of words you don't know. A
7:07
professional writer. Good point.
7:08
Unknown: Oh, you make a good
point. Tik Tok has been very,
7:12
very successful in the digital
advertising realm. They've also
7:16
just been really popular in
general. And Facebook and
7:21
Twitter and YouTube have taken
notice of the competition that
7:25
they get from Tik Tok. And
7:28
Adam Curry: the half taken
notice of the competition
7:30
really, really technology lady
they have taken notice is that
7:34
is that is that your analysis of
the situation
7:37
Unknown: and Facebook and
Twitter and YouTube have taken
7:41
notice of the competition that
they get from tick tock. And
7:44
that contributes to a lot of
what you hear from these other
7:48
social media companies. They may
you know, place ads behind other
7:53
groups that they're secretly
funding or not so secretly,
7:56
saying, tick tock,
7:57
Adam Curry: what did she say by
the way? Axios higher grant.
8:00
Grant is the guy you want on
this beat, not this dingbat. And
8:03
what is this? What?
8:04
John C Dvorak: Wait, wait, what
is she,
8:06
Adam Curry: we're gonna go back.
We're gonna listen again.
8:09
Unknown: Facebook and Twitter
and YouTube have taken notice of
8:13
the competition that they get
from Tik Tok. And that
8:16
contributes to a lot of what you
hear from these other social
8:19
media companies. They may you
know, place ads behind other
8:24
groups that they're secretly
funding or not so secretly,
8:27
saying tick tock is a national
security threat.
8:29
Adam Curry: Oh, what she's
saying is that YouTube tick tock
8:33
and Twitter and Facebook and
we've taken notice, are placing
8:38
ads saying that tick tock is a
national security issue. So
8:44
which is called lobbying as
well. I mean, you know,
8:47
John C Dvorak: or she said
groups that they're secretly
8:49
funding which would be a
lobbying group.
8:51
Adam Curry: Yes. Oh, well, okay.
What group will she rise, she
8:54
rises in my esteem all of a
sudden,
8:55
Unknown: and YouTube have taken
notice of the competition that
8:58
they get from Tik Tok. And that
contributes to a lot of what you
9:02
hear from these other social
media companies. They may you
9:06
know, please,
9:07
Adam Curry: shoot okay, this is
interesting. She says she hears
9:11
from these other social media
companies because it's her beat.
9:14
So does she hear this from them
directly? Is this a is this a
9:17
source is an anonymous source.
This is very interesting.
9:19
Unknown: They may you know,
place ads behind other groups
9:23
that they're secretly funding or
not so secretly. Tik Tok is a
9:27
national security threat. And in
baby they believe those things
9:30
but what they also believe is
that tick tock is major
9:33
competition and shipping into
their dominance. So there's a
9:37
lot of idea I mean, when big
tech companies are accused of
9:40
being monopolist, they like to
point to tick tock as thriving
9:44
competition. Look at tick tock.
They're getting making so much
9:48
advertising dollars. They're
hugely popular among younger
9:52
users, which is a you know, a
declining demographic for
9:54
Facebook. But in situations like
this, it's also really
9:58
advantageous for Mehta and
Twitter and YouTube and other
10:02
companies to say, Well, yeah, it
is a national security concern.
10:05
And you know, we're an American
company.
10:07
Adam Curry: So she agrees with
our guy. And that was that had
10:10
not come up in the conversation
until grant Producer Grant
10:13
stepped in and said, everybody
straight on the channel that no
10:16
one watches,
10:17
John C Dvorak: which is great.
Well, that could trigger a
10:20
cascade effect.
10:21
Adam Curry: Doubtful. Doubtful.
I
10:24
John C Dvorak: don't know. I
mean, Chris, you've been
10:26
hounding it on this show for a
while. Yeah. Six months? Well, I
10:31
Adam Curry: can't wait to listen
to some of the testimony because
10:33
I'm sure there'll be some
shortly. Well, we'll see exactly
10:36
who's compromised but I'm gonna
say Rubio top of the list
10:40
because he's Mr. Security.
Hallie, I think is probably
10:45
compromised, although I don't
want him to be but I mean, come
10:48
on, and enter the
10:51
John C Dvorak: wall. He has to
be compromised. There's no
10:52
question about
10:53
Adam Curry: it. And Wall Street
Journal did report that a group
10:55
of Silicon Valley executives,
including investor Peter Thiel,
10:58
and Washington lawmakers are
quietly mobilizing against
11:03
China's involvement in the US
tech industry. Ahead of tick
11:07
tock chief executive Xu Zhi
choose Capitol Hill testimony.
11:12
John C Dvorak: Now Aren't those
the same guys like Peter Thiel,
11:14
they were all for like net
neutrality and open internet and
11:18
heaven forbid, the Chinese are,
are gonna block the internet and
11:21
the Iranians are gonna block the
internet. So we're gonna block
11:24
the internet. Where's this work?
I'd like to understand where
11:27
somebody from that group tell me
what's going on
11:29
Adam Curry: spearheading the
effort to create bipartisan by
11:32
coastal alliance of China hawks
is Jacob Hellberg, former Google
11:37
policy adviser who is the newest
member of the US China economic
11:41
and security review commission.
This is the guy a congressional
11:45
research and advisory panel. Mr.
Helberg also serves as an
11:49
adjunct adjunct senior fellow at
the Center for a New American
11:53
Security, a think tank this is a
lot of money, John, a think tank
11:57
that specializes in national
security issues and a senior
12:00
adviser at the Stanford
University Center on geopolitics
12:04
and technology, which is
dedicated to research on global
12:07
competition with Mr. Hal global
competition
12:10
John C Dvorak: does that mean
blocking the internet?
12:12
Adam Curry: That's exactly what
by the way, as we have discussed
12:16
many times on this show, no one
in America cares about
12:20
ransomware cares about hacking.
But you take off you turn off
12:26
Tiktok you take that away from
the American people people will
12:30
lose their shit this is not this
is not something to be dealt
12:34
with lightly. I mean, people
will not care if I go to China
12:39
can have my information
12:42
John C Dvorak: today what we're
good it does them Yeah,
12:45
Adam Curry: well of course it
does them no good.
12:46
John C Dvorak: Hey, here's the
kind of person I have a clip
12:49
good there we go. This is the
kind of this is why I got it off
12:52
tick tock.
12:54
Adam Curry: That's the one of
the few times you'll be able to
12:56
do that ever again.
12:57
John C Dvorak: This is the talk
clip of the hot girl I want to
13:00
say China is going to have her
information is going to be used
13:04
for debt with deadly
consequences.
13:06
Unknown: My name is Horus and
I'm a red tailed hawk. In our
13:09
world I do have the body of a
hawk but well fronting I
13:11
consider myself with Aryan
because I'm in a human body but
13:14
my identity is still a hawk. Not
all animal altars will identify
13:18
this way and I am in fact the
only animal alter in our system
13:21
who does identify this way. I am
doing my best to come to terms
13:24
with living in a human body talk
13:26
talk to talk.
13:31
John C Dvorak: There you go now
that's gonna really that's gonna
13:33
submarine the American way. What
he's trying to get some
13:37
information on that chick.
13:39
Adam Curry: Take her. We
sacrifice her China, you can
13:41
have her give back. We want to
keep tick tock just give it to
13:46
her. So phenomenal. I love it.
It is it is so embarrassing that
13:53
these lawmakers, the elected
officials are going in on this.
13:58
And I heard a little bit of the
testimony this morning. Just
14:01
talking about things that
Facebook Mehta basically and,
14:06
and Twitter and Instagram, they
do this they are the ones that
14:10
build profiles. They just don't
have the best profiles anymore.
14:15
They have the go ahead look at
YouTube. It's all 11
14:19
John C Dvorak: They may it may
or may not have the best
14:20
profiles but does anyone think
people like that tick tock has
14:24
better profiles to get nothing?
14:26
Adam Curry: No as we discussed
they because of the of the
14:30
culture of tick tock. They have
more about the YouTube is people
14:34
doing shows mostly used to be
YouTube Broadcast Yourself. Tick
14:38
tock has become the broadcast
yourself. And as we discuss
14:41
computer vision, they have the
right content to know more about
14:44
people what we're at what they
have in their house, what
14:46
they're reading all this stuff
they do. I think they have
14:49
better profiling, whatever they
have, it's working better. That
14:55
it's way in the way is that
companies are we've read email
15:00
after email of companies saying
we're moving all of our
15:03
advertising to tick tock. That's
the better way, who cares how it
15:08
has a better ROI. But
15:09
John C Dvorak: don't you think a
lot of that has to do with just
15:11
the reach? And the way that tick
tock works and operationally
15:17
slipped the ads in? Yes. And I
don't think it's because they
15:19
have better whatever, yeas on
the American public
15:23
Adam Curry: what? No, they have
better profile information on
15:26
their users. That's all and it's
not dossier information. It
15:30
doesn't even matter. It's
better. It's better. And I don't
15:33
think it's the algorithm either.
It's better. You know, why does
15:37
Why did orchid not work? And why
did Facebook work? You can't
15:41
even explain you can try and
dissect it. No one really knows.
15:44
Unknown: Why did Google Places
for that? Why
15:47
Adam Curry: did Google Plus not
work? I mean, you can't because
15:50
John C Dvorak: Google doesn't
know what they're doing. When it
15:52
comes to social anything.
15:54
Adam Curry: We're saying the
same thing we're saying doesn't
15:58
even matter. They're kicking
everyone's ass. They don't have
16:01
any information, more
information that is detrimental
16:05
to the American public. No, they
also have 5 million creators.
16:10
Boy do I despise that word
creators and they're paying them
16:14
10 times more than YouTube? You
want to see you want to see a
16:18
shitstorm in those 5 million
people all of a sudden their
16:23
checks come in and of course
they're smart. They just oh you
16:26
know what how do we how do we
get how do we get more creators?
16:29
Oh, I know. Let's pay them more.
Everybody's over there.
16:34
John C Dvorak: That's the
American way I don't understand
16:36
why they're blaming the Chinese
for everything it's it's this
16:40
whole thing not the Chinese
16:41
Adam Curry: way this is a witch
trial it is it is it is not the
16:46
American way to do this with
competition is pathetic. And I
16:50
think and I think so what are
they saying? Well you have to
16:53
publish your algorithm at I've
Okay, fine, we'll publish the
16:56
algorithm what what they really
want is they want it to be an
16:59
American company so they can go
in and say hey, do you want the
17:03
IRS to be on your ass now then
you do what we say you filter
17:08
that person out you know amplify
this message that's what they
17:12
want that that can be can be
nothing else. They want
17:15
compliance. I'm not
17:16
John C Dvorak: going to argue
with defected that they don't
17:19
have the control that they have
with everything. You will never
17:23
Adam Curry: agree with me You
always say I'm not going to
17:25
argue with you. It's phenomenal.
was a phenomenal way.
17:29
John C Dvorak: I agree with you.
I'm not gonna disagree why? They
17:33
don't have it with tick tock is
completely out of control. They
17:35
have the hot girls on there.
What are you gonna do?
17:37
Adam Curry: Exactly. Even you
are all in on the hot girls. You
17:42
love the hot girls, the hawk
Hawk girls, hot girls hot girls.
17:50
John C Dvorak: I don't know how
that poor hot girl can live in
17:52
the human body, but she's doing
pretty well.
17:56
Adam Curry: So while the while
China is eating our social media
18:02
companies lunch, while Zhi Jing
ping is meeting with Putin,
18:07
Biden, his meeting with the cast
of Ted lasso doesn't just kind
18:14
of show you what's going on that
there's something really wrong
18:17
here.
18:20
John C Dvorak: Here's a yes,
symbolically. I think you've
18:23
nailed it. Here's,
18:24
Adam Curry: here's a clip of
this is from France, three, four
18:27
Unknown: grand entrance for one
of the few countries still on
18:31
friendly terms with Russia.
China's President, one
18:34
Adam Curry: of the few countries
on friendly terms with Russia,
18:36
I'd say they're quite a few who
are on friendly terms. The
18:39
BRICS. Yeah, so the ones big
ones even Yeah, this is
18:43
John C Dvorak: India is very
good terms with Russia. There's
18:46
just a bind the oil left and
right. There's also South
18:50
Africa. It's part of the BRICs.
This is totally talking about
18:54
Unknown: on friendly terms with
Russia. China's President Xi
18:57
Jinping was at the Kremlin on
Tuesday to meet with President
19:00
Vladimir Putin. He's an
increasingly isolated figure on
19:04
the world stage, launching his
war on Ukraine.
19:09
We are each other's biggest
neighbor. We are also
19:12
comprehensive strategic
partners. For years our
19:15
relationship has withstood the
test of various changes and
19:18
become firmer as time goes by.
19:21
She declared China was neutral
on the invasion and the two
19:24
leaders discussed Beijing's
peace plan to end the war and
19:28
proposal written so far without
input from Ukraine and dismissed
19:32
by the US for cementing Russian
gains and giving it time to
19:35
regroup as well as diplomatic
ties that they strengthened
19:39
economic ones with a close to
finalize deal that would see
19:42
Russian gas transported to Asia.
The power of Siberia pipeline to
19:47
won't come online until 230. But
could render any further
19:51
European sanctions on Russian
gas far less effective. It's
19:55
part of a wider push for the two
countries to work together.
20:00
Adam Curry: By combining
20:01
Unknown: our rich scientific
potential and industrial
20:03
capacity, Russia and China can
become world leaders in
20:07
information technology, network
security, weapons and artificial
20:11
intelligence.
20:13
Russia and China, a joint
statement affirming that the
20:16
strengthening of their ties is
not meant to be confrontational
20:19
to other countries, the cold
conference, Ukraine and its
20:23
allies.
20:29
Adam Curry: Yeah, and then, I
guess the translation was
20:33
between the exchange between GE
and Putin as they were saying
20:36
goodbye as dear friends. We're,
we're making change together. It
20:40
hasn't happened in 100 years,
and they're right, you even put
20:43
that in the newsletter. It's
this. It's what is happening.
20:46
John C Dvorak: This is not
supposed to have happened when
20:48
they opened up China when Nixon
and Kissinger figured out how to
20:51
do it. And they did it. The
whole idea was to keep China
20:54
from partnering its Russia, den
in every president ever since
20:58
his job has been to keep China
and Russia from partnering. And
21:03
meanwhile, here comes Biden.
Yeah. Biden, in the staff from
21:07
the Obama administration, they
managed to do it. I have to
21:11
assume they wanted to do it.
21:14
Adam Curry: Well, we've always
thought that Obama was a chai
21:16
calm. Well, he seems that
remember when he was bowing to
21:20
them?
21:21
John C Dvorak: Yeah, yeah. Yeah.
He's cold calling. Yeah. Cow
21:25
Adam Curry: telling and bowing.
Yeah. You got a China stuff.
21:29
John C Dvorak: They have plenty
of China's stuff. I guess in
21:31
China economy discussion. This
is my week of doing some NTD
21:34
stuff. So it's all news. You'll
never heard any of this in di D.
21:39
Yeah,
21:39
Adam Curry: of course. No one
will have this because we're too
21:41
obsessed with Trump. Trump
getting a range indicted. Perp
21:45
walk, crab walk.
21:48
John C Dvorak: Where's the
birdwalk? I'm waiting. All
21:51
right, let's go Chinese economy
discussion.
21:53
Unknown: Oh, okay. And add to
the rescue. And Tony, kind of
21:56
zooming in on the economy, it
seems with this Xi and Putin
22:00
meeting, especially right, China
has been doing this diplomatic
22:04
dance in a way they have been
helping Russia economically. But
22:08
with those sanctions or even
secondary sanctions that could
22:12
be levied on China, it seems
China's own economy has been
22:15
taking quite a hit you have a
piece out recently called
22:18
China's economic recovery is
uncertain. So what are you
22:22
seeing in that aspect.
22:24
So while the rest of the world
is raising interest rates, while
22:28
the rest of the world is raising
interest rates to combat
22:30
inflation, China keeps cutting
rates cutting reserve
22:33
requirements, because free up
liquidity in their banking
22:36
system and their financial
system increase the quantity of
22:40
cash that's available to expand
the economy. This is a very,
22:44
very unsound way to expand the
size of the economy. And it has
22:49
to be paid for later to China
already has debt, equivalent to
22:52
300% of GDP, the debt is just
growing. So I see the Chinese
22:57
economy really struggling this
year. The other issue is that
23:02
demand for everything is still
down in the rest of the world.
23:05
The rest of the world is still
facing, essentially somewhere
23:09
between recession and
stagflation. That's keeping
23:12
consumer demand down. So Chinese
products aren't in demand as
23:16
much abroad. A push for
nationalism within China is
23:22
driving a lot of foreign brands
out of China. They're not making
23:25
the money they were making
before general downturn in the
23:29
Chinese economy. They could
never get consumers to consume
23:32
in China the way that they did
and the way they do in the
23:35
United States.
23:36
And Antonio, speaking of this, a
economic uncertainty that's
23:40
unfolding in China right now
here in the US, Senator Josh
23:43
Hawley is introducing a bill
that would cancel the country's
23:47
most favored nation status
within two years. So if this
23:50
actually passes, what would be
the impact on China?
23:53
Adam Curry: Oh, no, we see
Holly's true mission is not tic
23:57
tock. He wants to screw china.
24:00
John C Dvorak: Yeah, that's what
he wants. This was favored
24:02
nation things comes up in the
conversation here. And there. It
24:06
I've heard it a few times that
they're trying to pull this one.
24:09
Let me ask you a question.
Because I'm asked question.
24:12
Adam Curry: In that report,
they're talking about you know,
24:13
they'll never get anyone any
country to consume like America
24:16
does. Well, we just stop
consuming to Chinese products. I
24:19
don't think so. I mean, it does
not stop overnight. What's their
24:22
new market
24:23
John C Dvorak: with a problem
is, you know, they I mean, this,
24:25
this negative report is one of
the few you'll ever hear because
24:28
everybody else still extols the
virtues of Chinese productivity
24:32
and the fact that they can crank
their manufacturing capability
24:35
in particular, but
disproportionately negative one
24:39
I could find but it may have
some there may be something to
24:42
it. The The problem is the
Chinese are got their fingers in
24:45
everything. You can't really
build anything without trust
24:48
components are. I mean, you
can't buy a camera that's not
24:51
made in China. I mean, the
Nikon's and canon. How about the
24:56
phones and all the phones are
made in China? Yeah. And you
24:59
have to computers made in China
Dells got a factory over there
25:02
they make to compute. So you can
do this. But they would if you
25:08
if you put Most Favored Nations,
which changes the way you can do
25:13
trading, it's possible that over
the next decade, it's, we may be
25:19
able to extract ourselves from
China, some people, I don't even
25:22
know if it's even
25:23
Adam Curry: even Walmart, even
Walmart has had almost all
25:26
Chinese. exactly everything that
goes to Walmart comes from
25:29
Wuhan. So
25:34
John C Dvorak: I don't know, I
mean, China is dependent on us,
25:36
and we're dependent on them. And
I don't understand why you can't
25:38
get along. But as they might
say, this clip to me, more
25:43
things will come out of it,
25:44
Unknown: I really, really wish
that this would pass.
25:48
Unfortunately, it's one of those
things that comes up every
25:50
couple of years or months or
something, somebody talks about
25:53
it, and it just doesn't go
anywhere. Unfortunately, we are
25:57
ratcheting up to the credit of
the previous administration and
26:01
the current administration, we
are ratcheting this up on both
26:05
us outbound investment into
China, Chinese investment into
26:09
the United States trade with
China, to chip in is huge. I
26:13
mean, we're doing a lot of good
things, but it's a bunch of
26:15
piecemeal things. And I really
wish we would do something big,
26:19
like removing their most
favorite trade nation status,
26:24
just outright banning imports
from China outright banning
26:27
investment in China, something
along that lines, because every
26:30
step of the way, you know, we're
tightening this or that, or
26:34
we're making this or that
better. But meanwhile, there's
26:36
another problem over there. It's
another problem with a sway
26:38
playing the whack a mole game,
you know, you knock down this,
26:41
this mole, and then that one
pops up over there. And the
26:44
problem is that all these
profits that China is earning
26:46
all this money that they're
getting from US investors, and
26:49
it's just going back into
weapons, ultimately, its funding
26:53
their technological advancement,
AI, New Age weapons, new age,
26:57
technology, space, wars, all
these things. And if we can cut
27:02
off their money, they won't be
able to do it. It's the same
27:04
concept of what we're doing to
Russia, or hamstring, Russia
27:07
economically so that they can't
wage a war. Unfortunately, they
27:10
have their buddy China, feeding
them money through the backdoor.
27:14
Right. Right. Cut that off. That
would be great. But it's a
27:18
Adam Curry: little it's a little
more than just Russia getting
27:20
money through the backdoor on
China.
27:22
John C Dvorak: Now. The analysis
falls apart, you can what he
27:26
described, it is not possible
now. I mean, it would be
27:30
ideally, yeah. Cut off all
imports, just stop them. And
27:34
then what do we do
27:36
Adam Curry: with that our basic
vitamin C,
27:39
John C Dvorak: you can't even
get tires anymore that aren't
27:41
made in China. Japanese all the
big Japanese tire firms, they
27:48
have factories in China and make
tires cheaper. He's just not do
27:52
it. This is where we were
locked. We're locked up.
27:56
Adam Curry: And what does that
what does the chip ban doing?
27:58
Um, the chip the chip Act, which
was they had a chip act in
28:01
Europe that had a chip Act in
the United States. What does
28:04
that actually done?
28:06
John C Dvorak: Well, they're
bitching about, so I must have
28:07
done something. But what it's
gonna do is make the check. I
28:13
don't know. I'm surprised that
the Chinese haven't gotten
28:16
further in developing fabs.
28:19
Adam Curry: And you know, it
doesn't seem a stretch for them
28:22
to be able to do artificial
intelligence better than Google
28:25
barf, which came out yesterday
in beta. What a piece of crap.
28:30
Do you see my first question?
28:33
John C Dvorak: No, I don't know
anything about what you've done.
28:35
Oh, okay. So I,
28:37
Adam Curry: I did what what we
always do is like, let's let's
28:40
test this. So I got on the beta
GUI. It's called Google Bard.
28:44
Var do is bar for that's what
you and I call it and that's
28:47
correct. Google barf. And now,
and so I asked the question,
28:53
which, you know, I was moaning
and groaning about other other
28:58
AI being stupid. And my question
was, tell me, tell me about Adam
29:05
curry. And I'll just read the so
it spits out a paragraph
29:08
directly from Wikipedia. And
then let's listen to this. Curry
29:12
is a vocal critic of the
mainstream media and he has been
29:15
accused of being a conspiracy
theorist. He is also a strong
29:19
supporter of Donald Trump. In
2017, he was banned from Twitter
29:23
for violating the company's
Terms of Service. Cori is
29:26
married to Tina Snyder and they
have one child together. Am I
29:31
Tina? What did you do with our
child when I was banned from
29:35
Twitter?
29:36
John C Dvorak: With a kid
where's the kid? Because the kid
29:40
Adam Curry: the apologist,
that's what's so amazing. People
29:44
come on to rules don't really
good at that. But if you're if
29:47
you want it to do a business
plan, and you can hone it you
29:50
can you can tweak you can tweak
it so that it gives you a great
29:54
idea it leaving registered
domain name tell you what to
29:56
get. What are you people Stop.
It's not great. It's not going
30:04
to be great. It's never going to
be great. Well, never never is a
30:07
little strong, but it's a far
cry from great people are they
30:12
love this? Oh, yeah. Hey, I so
it's like the artists, you like
30:17
comic strip? Oh, aren't so
great. No, it's not. And people
30:23
are not, we don't remain stupid
like this. We, as humans, our
30:28
brains are also evolving. And we
get very I mean, I can now
30:33
detect AI, deep fake video deep,
deep, deep, deep fake audio,
30:38
you're our own brains are also
training to outwit the AI I do
30:42
not believe that AI will outwit
the human beings long term, our
30:47
brains continue to evolve.
30:50
John C Dvorak: You know, there's
also the it's going to be
30:52
difficult to outwit the lawyers.
Yeah, at some point, this is
30:58
plagiarism. This is copyright
violations left and right. No
31:03
one's really addressed this too
much. But this thing is doing
31:08
illegal work.
31:09
Adam Curry: And more
importantly, they have no way to
31:12
fund it. This is very expensive
stuff to run. You need ASICs,
31:18
special ASICs, you know, they
would have to basically convert
31:21
and get rid of all their YouTube
ASICs and the end, they've got
31:25
to get AI, this is very, very
expensive, too. It's mean, the
31:30
cost of running AI queries is
you're going to have to charge
31:35
people, I don't think that you
can offset this with advertising
31:40
in an ad market that is so bad
that Marc Maron has to now
31:44
pretend he's Oh, yes. Let me
tell you about how I work with
31:47
advertisers. It's very
interesting. You see this?
31:51
John C Dvorak: Well, I have no
idea what you're talking about
31:53
Marc Maron,
31:54
Adam Curry: so he is with a cast
a cast is a is a for all
31:58
intents. And by the way, the
lights are flickering, it's
32:00
possible our power goes out, the
generators will kick in. I'll be
32:03
back in a few minutes. Okay, so
he's with a cast, which I think
32:07
is a Swedish outfit.
32:09
John C Dvorak: And I thought I
thought he was an independent
32:11
podcaster.
32:12
Adam Curry: Yes, he is. But his
ads come through a cast. So they
32:16
go out and sell the ads. And
then I'm reading all the stories
32:19
from the so called podcast,
Industrial Complex News. Oh,
32:24
yes. A cast has come up with a
new series, where podcasters
32:28
talk about themselves? No, it's
basically Marc Maron saying,
32:32
Yeah, I really liked working
with this company. And here's
32:35
how it worked with that company.
They're so desperate, they're
32:38
putting their top talent. We all
had to do this when I worked in
32:42
mainstream. Hey, man, you got to
do some pitches for us. You got
32:45
to you know, you got to talk to
the press about you know, about
32:47
how great the ads are. So that,
you know, advertisers see this.
32:50
Oh, maybe I should advertise
with them. You know what I mean,
32:54
if you know what I mean. So
yeah, so they're not going to
32:59
cover it with ads. The ad market
is soft, it's down. It's it's a
33:04
problem. The economy is not
making it easier. You cannot
33:08
fill this hole.
33:09
John C Dvorak: I should mention
when it goes down like this
33:11
because it did this@the.com
crash. If you recall, in NY the
33:17
year 2000. The ad market
collapsed. And it takes about
33:21
two years or more to recover. It
may
33:24
Adam Curry: even take longer on
this one. This may be a doozy. I
33:28
don't know. Everyone's battening
down the hatches in case people
33:32
had noticed people are
33:33
John C Dvorak: moaning and
groaning the advertising based
33:35
podcasters are
33:37
Adam Curry: moaning and groaning
all of them are mining groaning,
33:39
crying existential existential
crisis existential the ad
33:45
market. Yeah.
33:48
John C Dvorak: Kid buffalo, my
listeners anymore by reading
33:51
ads.
33:52
Adam Curry: Thank God for value
for value. Man, we made a smart
33:55
choice by accident, but we still
made a smart choice. We couldn't
34:00
get
34:00
John C Dvorak: anyone to add it
to us by accident. I think it
34:02
was done
34:02
Adam Curry: purposely. No. But I
mean, we figured out that there
34:06
was a real business model. We
said, hey, you know, you've got
34:08
to, you've got to support us.
Otherwise, we can't do it that
34:11
we just were like, Hey, we're
not going to do this if you
34:13
don't if you don't support us,
and then people did and then we
34:16
figured out oh wait a minute, if
you if you really open it up,
34:20
and don't try to be a Patreon or
don't try to force people into
34:23
the Silicon Valley model of $5.
Now, please, whatever it's worth
34:28
to you, whatever the show,
whatever the information is,
34:31
whatever the value is that you
get the actually
34:33
John C Dvorak: the variable
donation I think is the key to
34:37
success that people don't
understand.
34:40
Adam Curry: And people are
embarrassed to do it. They can't
34:43
they can't.
34:44
John C Dvorak: Well, yeah, well,
golly, I don't know. I don't
34:47
like taking church Tip Jar Would
that work? Is that okay? I just
34:50
put a jar to maybe push somebody
puts $1 in there asked me to
34:54
play a tune, jaw
34:59
Adam Curry: man So, one of the
interesting things about this G
35:06
and Putin meeting, is that out
of it came an idea of, you know,
35:11
maybe, maybe we we seek some
kind of peace with Ukraine.
35:16
Maybe we can work some stuff
out, then GE oh, by the way, I
35:19
think, you know, he traveled to
Moscow. That's a big deal. No,
35:23
he she went there. He went to
see Vlad, say, ma'am, we can fix
35:28
something and you know, could
figure it out. And so some
35:30
ideas, you know, leaked out kind
of floated and you know, like a
35:35
ceasefire to figure some stuff
out. Oh, whoa. Oh, we can't have
35:39
that says John Kirby.
35:41
Unknown: That if coming out of
this meeting, there's some sort
35:43
of call for a ceasefire. Well,
that's just going to be
35:46
unacceptable because all that's
gonna do like is ratify Russia's
35:50
conquest today's all that's
going to do is give Mr. Putin
35:53
more time to refit, retrain
remand and try to plan for
35:59
offensives at a time of his
choosing. I'm sorry,
36:01
John C Dvorak: that doesn't that
doesn't get his logic apply to
36:06
Zelinsky in the Ukrainians gives
them more time to retrain and
36:11
bring more stuff over because
there's a lag time for moving
36:14
product is like getting there.
It gives me more time to do this
36:18
in that the other good
observation. It sounds to me
36:22
like it would give both sides
more time.
36:23
Adam Curry: I'm not going to
disagree.
36:28
Unknown: Russia's conquest
today's all that's going to do
36:30
is give Mr. Putin more time to
refit, retrain remand, and try
36:35
to plan for renewed off
offensives at a time of his
36:38
choosing. We hope and we've said
this before that Mr. President
36:42
Xi will call and talk to
President Solinsky because we
36:45
believe the Chinese need to get
the Ukrainian perspective.
36:49
Adam Curry: No, yeah. Yeah. You
didn't need to get to your
36:51
Chinese net need to get the
Ukrainian perspective here. And
36:54
what does that even mean? Kirby.
But you know, the American
36:59
public groups in American public
are also mad about this. The
37:02
Code Pink Lady, what's her name
again?
37:05
John C Dvorak: Oh, the Code Pink
Lady. Yes, she's
37:08
Adam Curry: added she's added
she Abe Lincoln was our
37:11
Secretary of State was
testifying and she interrupted
37:15
in my head. I have a little clip
up very much for having me here
37:17
today. All right. Thank you, Mr.
Secretary. The committee will be
37:22
in order
37:26
Unknown: a proxy for
37:33
you're supposed to be a diplomat
start negotiating. You know, if
37:38
you don't like the Chinese
proposals, where is your
37:42
proposals? The American people
want you to negotiate. Your
37:50
Adam Curry: Medea Benjamin Medea
Benjamin is the pink coat Pink
37:53
Lady but good for her.
37:56
John C Dvorak: Code Pink office
MIT one of the main was in the
38:00
area,
38:01
Adam Curry: but who's funding
her now is my question. The
38:03
Chinese Soros probably no, no
Soros wants to he wants to
38:08
demise and destruction doesn't
he?
38:10
John C Dvorak: I guess he would.
Yeah,
38:12
Adam Curry: he doesn't want
anything solved. But whoever's
38:15
paying her the that part of the
American
38:17
John C Dvorak: vigilantes right?
Yeah, of course she's right or
38:20
negotiates, whereas a great
diplomats and may come I
38:23
Adam Curry: can I have a series
of clips here of one of the
38:27
greatest diplomats and one of
the greatest hoaxes of all time.
38:32
And I love these Russian guys vo
Vaughan and Lexus. These are the
38:40
guys that they called up Schumer
they called me all I think it's
38:45
the same guys all these idiots
and they pretend to be you know,
38:48
like, Oh, these toasts are
38:51
John C Dvorak: the host own
prank. Calendars. 1960. Yes.
38:56
Adam Curry: Well, they pranked
Fifi le guard and they didn't
39:02
just prank her they did a 20
minute zoom call with her and
39:06
recorded the Zoom call. Oh my
god and and pretending to be
39:13
Zelinsky
39:15
John C Dvorak: so they had
video, I presume it was one of
39:17
them look like Zelinsky well, so
39:19
Adam Curry: we only see her. We
only see her side and we hear
39:23
His voice. But it's kind of
cool. Because even starting off,
39:28
I got to play these clips for
you. Even at 20 minutes, I'm
39:31
just going to pull a few of the
of the gems from this thing. So
39:35
before so and she's at home
clearly you know she's got her
39:38
little her office set up and
she's got you know, I guess her
39:41
grandkids drew something she's
even got a little piece sign up
39:46
in the bookcase. I'm sure that
Tiktok would have a dynamite
39:50
time analyzing and finalizing
her office. And and so they they
39:55
and so as the call has come in
this just shows you how dumb
39:59
these people are. These people
are so stupid. Now. For context,
40:03
she is now the president of the
European Central Bank, the
40:07
European Federal Reserve, that
within you know, they they took
40:10
all the money of Europe and all
the guilders and the drachmas,
40:13
and all these cool little monies
and made one big Euro thing. So
40:17
it's all under her control. And
she used to be head of the IMF.
40:22
So she is the shill and she got
the IMF job by basically taking
40:29
down the guy who was in charge
remember that he would do
40:31
because he had droughts,
whatever his name was, yes, hon.
40:34
Strauss he had been all of a
sudden he had costed the hooker.
40:39
Those the cleaning lady, what if
the cleaning lady in the hotel
40:42
in New York wasn't a hooker?
40:44
John C Dvorak: Right? Sure.
40:45
Adam Curry: Exactly. So but
she's a shill, but she's also
40:49
you're gonna see how dumb she
is. So so of course what to all
40:54
the elite ladies think of
Zielinski? They all
40:57
Unknown: love him. Oh, oh, he's
so handsome.
41:01
John C Dvorak: Yeah, so they
answer really?
41:04
Adam Curry: Oh, come on.
41:05
John C Dvorak: You've heard a
little is a little know me guy.
41:07
Adam Curry: I know. But you of
course but you see all the women
41:11
who go meet you've seen it was a
Lenski, Lenski all the
41:15
Hollywood. Lenski is Sean Penn
wants a bone him. Come on.
41:19
Everyone loves the landscape.
Sean
41:21
John C Dvorak: Penn. Okay. So
she's
41:22
Adam Curry: primping her hair in
the beginning as the call is
41:26
connecting to the landscape
because the landscape get ready
41:30
for it. Hello. Hello.
41:33
Unknown: Can you hear me?
41:35
I can see you very well. Okay,
41:36
madam presidents. I'm glad to
see you glad to hear I'm
41:40
concerned Vicki kind
41:41
Adam Curry: of has the voice
down. I think that's pretty
41:42
good.
41:43
John C Dvorak: Ah, you know,
right away. I'm not liking the
41:45
voice. But it's probably good
enough.
41:47
Adam Curry: I wouldn't have
bought it. But again, she's
41:49
stupid
41:49
Unknown: turned about the
economic situation in Europe, as
41:53
you know that this assistance to
Ukraine depends on it. And some
41:57
countries already openly saying
that internal problems are more
42:01
important to them.
42:03
Adam Curry: It's important to
listen to this first 45 seconds
42:05
because just setting up he's
he's kind of getting her in the
42:08
in the mood for the hoax, which
is never paid off. As far as as
42:12
far as I know. I mean, like, she
doesn't, she's never she never
42:15
catches on to it, she thinks she
really spoke was the Lensky. So
42:18
he's kind of setting the stage
and economics rah rah rah,
42:22
Unknown: Ukraine. So I just what
like to ask you how the things
42:26
in Europe as a whole? How did
the crisis hit? So what is your
42:31
position
42:32
where we have an issue is on
inflation, because of the
42:37
bottlenecks that have survived
the end of COVID. We are seeing
42:43
prices that have initially gone
up only in the area of energy,
42:51
and then gradually through
fertilizers in particular, to
42:55
food and now on a much broader
basis. So the inflation that we
43:01
had hoped wouldn't be transitory
has continued much longer than
43:07
thought,
43:08
Adam Curry: by the way, a couple
of things. First of all, she
43:10
says, coming out of COVID, we
got inflation. She doesn't say
43:14
because of Vladimir Putin
cutting off the gas to Europe,
43:17
which is the lie that all the
politicians tell. So she doesn't
43:22
say that. She has her own
bullcrap. Reason Oh, because of
43:26
COVID.
43:27
Unknown: And at a much higher
level than expected. So as a
43:32
result of that, all central
banks and the ECB is no
43:36
exception, have to take measures
in order to reduce inflation, so
43:43
that people do not suffer from
high prices, and we have a more
43:48
stable economy.
43:50
Adam Curry: And okay, so that's
just a setup. So she's in the
43:52
mood now. He's going to say,
hey, well, you know, how you
43:58
call how you're coordinating?
And that just listen to where
44:00
she takes it, how she feels,
what is the true solution to
44:03
Ukraine's problems. And the
question
44:05
Unknown: is, how do you think
what is your colleagues from
44:11
fit? Think about that? Do you
have a conversation with them?
44:15
We not only Yeah, we do, of
course, have conversations. We
44:19
exchanged a lot. And actually, I
will be seeing our Jay Powell
44:23
tonight. We have dinner tonight.
Oh, we have a meeting of the
44:30
Bank of International
Settlements in Basel, and I'm
44:33
having dinner with him tonight.
So yes, we do talk a lot. Yeah,
44:36
Adam Curry: we coordinate. But
44:39
Unknown: you know, President,
whatever is the coming out of
44:43
this situation, who wins who
loses in a way is irrelevant.
44:48
What matters is that Ukraine at
the end of the day wins. So I
44:54
take the very, very simple view
that those who have the biggest
45:00
Gun at the end of the day when,
45:03
Adam Curry: oh my god, this is
this is this is how the elites
45:07
think, Hey, as long as we have
the bigger gun, they win. That's
45:11
how it works, right?
45:13
Unknown: Basic, wild west cowboy
principle,
45:17
Adam Curry: which you're all in
on.
45:19
Unknown: It is the case at the
moment that the biggest military
45:22
power in the world is the United
States. So the United States is
45:26
supplying the biggest shipment
of weapons is providing a very
45:31
large amount of funding. And
that's the reality that we deal
45:35
with. And I don't think that we
can just argue about who wins
45:41
who loses it's you who has to
win and we have to make every
45:45
effort we can to support you.
How stupid
45:48
Adam Curry: are these people?
She really believes Oh, science
45:52
we have the biggest gun
45:53
John C Dvorak: ever. Don't we
have a clip I can isolate this
45:57
clip but didn't we have a clip
where we're gonna fight this
46:00
until every Ukrainians dead? Who
said that there was something
46:05
was gonna work get date we're
going to war is gonna go on
46:08
until the last Ukrainian
standing. I don't remember
46:13
basically, it was like, you
know, we're gonna just gonna go
46:15
on into there's no Ukrainians
left you're gonna all be dead.
46:19
You know, just like, that was
the essence of it. They were
46:22
saying I
46:23
Adam Curry: wish I knew what
that what that was. I can't find
46:25
anything under.
46:27
John C Dvorak: You gotta tell
you something, you know? Oh, you
46:29
guys is this reminds me of Mad
Magazine or something. Some of
46:33
these crazy, you know, curry
everyone's dead. Except one guy,
46:37
you know?
46:37
Adam Curry: Well, we what we
know is that the US has always
46:40
said as long as it takes. Which
doesn't seem to be the fact.
46:46
Okay, so the final clip. Now
now. VO Vaughn and Lexus are
46:52
going all out. And I cannot do
this. Again. This woman is so
46:55
dumb. And they throw jokes in
this guy is so good. So now he's
46:58
going to first of all is going
to suck up to get it. You'll get
47:01
her already. You know? That
really smart? How they do this?
47:06
Suck up to her Tell her she's
beautiful, smart, whatever. And
47:09
then he's going to say okay, so
he wants to know, when is the
47:13
central bank digital currency
coming the E Euro? And she
47:17
unpacks
47:18
Unknown: Okay, let's, let's stop
talking about let's stop to talk
47:23
about sets things. I'm really
glad to see you. And they see
47:27
you. And I'm glad to see smart,
smart woman at this position.
47:33
And I think that you're pretty
nice. I have a question about
47:40
Adam Curry: how easy is it to
hoax these people? I think
47:45
you're pretty sure I love seeing
a smart woman in your position.
47:49
Ask me anything.
47:50
Unknown: I'm also a good user of
electronic money. So my question
47:56
you're introducing the
electronic era, as I know, so,
48:01
how can you how can switching to
an electronic currency help?
48:07
But two things Number one, it
will be decided in October. So
48:12
there you go. October, Europe,
we are preparing the ground, we
48:16
want to be ready. We want to be
trained, but it will not be
48:21
decided.
48:24
Adam Curry: Everyone's got to be
trained on how to do it. He
48:26
John C Dvorak: got to be trained
with like a barking seal
48:28
Adam Curry: well, but it's
really about training the
48:31
European people and you'll hear
that
48:32
John C Dvorak: that's what I'm
talking about. Those are the
48:34
barking seals. Talking about
48:37
Unknown: will prepare the grind.
Ready? We want to be trained but
48:43
it will not be decided until
October 23 The reason? I'm
48:49
Adam Curry: thinking when she
says it will not be decided I
48:51
mean what I'm think she's saying
is that's when we're basically
48:56
announced that we're going to
train everybody October 2023
49:00
Then we're just gonna announce
it then it's coming. So I don't
49:02
know if that means it happens or
maybe it happens in in 2024. But
49:06
the the hammers coming down in
October digital euro
49:10
Unknown: will preparing the
ground.
49:13
John C Dvorak: So didn't when
you were in Holland the last
49:16
time didn't they move everything
so you can't have cash that's
49:19
coming
49:19
Unknown: up. We want to be
ready. We want to be trained,
49:23
but it will not be decided until
October 23. The reason? I'm
49:29
personally convinced that we
have to move ahead is a
49:35
situation like the one we are in
now. We are dependent on the
49:40
supply of gas by a very
unfriendly country. I don't want
49:47
Europe to be dependent on an
unfriendly country's currency.
49:53
For instance,
49:55
Adam Curry: an unfriendly
country's currency or women
49:57
isn't the petro honest
50:00
John C Dvorak: Jackie, talking
about us? Well,
50:02
Adam Curry: is she though? I
think she's moved beyond the
50:05
dollar. The petro dollar is
done. It's dead. No, no, no,
50:09
she's already she's not thinking
about the US or the dollar and
50:12
Unknown: friendly country. I
don't want Europe to be
50:16
dependent on an unfriendly
country's currency. For
50:21
instance, I don't know, you
know, the Chinese currency, the
50:25
Russian currency, the whatever,
or dependent on a friendly
50:30
currency, but which is activated
by a private corporate entity,
50:36
like, you know, Facebook, like
Google or anybody likes.
50:42
I'm user of Bitcoin too.
50:46
Adam Curry: So she's not even
talking about the dollar. She
50:50
says, Oh, I don't I don't have
to buy our energy in in Chinese
50:53
currency or Russian currency.
This is quite spectacular, I
50:59
think, for her to be saying
these things. And now he's going
51:01
to start hoaxing are hard with
this with Bitcoin,
51:05
Unknown: like Google or anybody
likes.
51:09
I'm user of Bitcoin too. So I
had bought it when it started. I
51:15
hope it also will work in for
the special system. And I know
51:23
Adam Curry: he's trying to go
there. She's not going to take
51:25
the bait, but we'll see what
happens. There are many protests
51:28
Unknown: in Europe, against the
electronic era. What is the
51:34
reason?
51:35
You know, it's it's the beauty
of Europe, it has different
51:38
Adam Curry: positions. It is the
beauty of Europe. You can
51:41
control them all. It's the
beauty
51:43
Unknown: of Europe, it has
different positions, if you ask.
51:48
In Northern Europe, for
instance, in the Netherlands,
51:51
they're quite happy to see the
Euro coming.
51:55
Adam Curry: Yeah. Give us the
euro. We love the euro, bring it
51:59
to us, please.
52:00
Unknown: If you ask a young
German man, you'll say you're
52:05
fine. It's good. It's good. As I
said, I don't find metal, Google
52:11
or Amazon to suddenly come up
with a currency that will take
52:15
over the sovereignty of Europe.
52:17
Adam Curry: This was the second
time she said this what is
52:19
happening at Google and Amazon
and and Facebook meta
52:24
John C Dvorak: is she may be off
handedly, but refuses to say
52:28
that she's referring to musk and
his ex project.
52:32
Adam Curry: That's the one she
doesn't mention. That's why No,
52:35
John C Dvorak: maybe she's is
that possible that she's beating
52:38
around the bush and doesn't want
to mention it?
52:40
Adam Curry: I'm all in on that,
because she does not mention it
52:44
at all. And that's the one
that's coming the closest and
52:46
that's
52:47
John C Dvorak: the threat.
52:48
Unknown: I don't want a foreign
currency to become the currency
52:51
of trading within Europe. So we
have to be ready.
52:55
Now the problem is they don't
want to be controlled. They
52:59
don't want to
53:01
Adam Curry: be but you know
what? I love this. Yeah, but you
53:04
know what, you know, it's like,
these are stupid people were the
53:08
elites were bigger than them
53:10
Unknown: didn't want to be
controlled. They don't want to.
53:14
But you know what, you know
what? Now we have in Europe,
53:19
this threshold, above 1000
euros, you cannot pay cash? If
53:24
you do, you're on the gray
market, that you take your risk,
53:28
you get caught, you are fined.
Are you going to jail?
53:33
Adam Curry: Just so you know, in
case you in case we hadn't
53:35
explained that already to you.
If you pay over 1000 euros cash,
53:41
you're on the gray market. If
you get caught you get fined or
53:44
you go to jail. Just so you
know. 1000 euros cash might not
53:47
have been cleared everybody in
the EU. If they catch you. They
53:51
can throw you in jail.
53:52
Unknown: Oh, you're on the gray
market does
53:54
John C Dvorak: it by the way.
That's nothing.
53:57
Adam Curry: Of course not 1000
euros. What does that mean? You
53:59
can't use? Yes, it's nothing.
It's nothing and it's about to
54:04
get better.
54:04
John C Dvorak: If you buy like a
laptop from some guy you know,
54:07
and you wanted to take cash and
you give them $1,100 or 1100
54:12
euros. Now you go to jail.
54:14
Adam Curry: Yeah, if you get
caught you're on the gray market
54:16
now buddy. You're on the gray
market
54:19
Unknown: euros you cannot pay
cash. If you do, you're on the
54:23
gray market. You take your risk
you get cold, you will find or
54:28
you go in jail. But you know the
the digital euro is going to
54:34
have a limited amount of
control. There will be control
54:38
you're right. Yeah. You're
completely right. Yep, we are
54:42
considering whether for very
small amounts, you know,
54:45
anything that is around 300 400
euros, we could have a mechanism
54:50
where there is zero control
Hello slaves
54:53
Adam Curry: 300 euros on your E
euro and you won't be controlled
54:57
anything under three maybe four
maybe if if would be nice to
55:00
you. But otherwise anything,
obviously we're gonna control
55:04
you.
55:05
Unknown: But that could be
dangerous terrorist attacks on
55:08
France, back 10 years ago, were
entirely financed by those very
55:15
small, anonymous credit cards
that you can recharge in total
55:19
anonymity.
55:20
Adam Curry: So what she's really
saying is, you know, right now
55:24
the idea is we're going to
present it as three or 400 euros
55:27
and you won't be controlled, it
won't be registered. But
55:30
terrorism, so we're probably
going to have to control it all.
55:33
But we'll convince you later in
October. Now, now he's going to
55:38
hammer it home.
55:39
Unknown: You know, that question
is now now I think it's a joke
55:44
like, like a joke that the next
currency will be fireworks for
55:51
Europe will be what? Fireworks
fireworks? To heat to heat the.
55:59
Yeah. So it's like a joke. It's
like a joke from Russian sites.
56:07
Adam Curry: They get lost. These
guys are my friends now. I love
56:15
these guys.
56:17
John C Dvorak: Give me a clip of
the day for that. Fine, thank
56:18
you
56:19
Adam Curry: very much. It's
quite telling how the elites
56:26
think. Yeah, and she's the Jay
Powell of Europe.
56:32
John C Dvorak: Yeah, he is.
Well, meanwhile, of course, we
56:34
have this little story which is
not being played at all. And
56:38
expected is going along as
expected. Play this one. This is
56:42
the Ukraine clip. This is IMF
and Ukraine.
56:45
Adam Curry: Ah, yes. I just read
about this this morning.
56:48
Unknown: The International
Monetary Fund or IMF is offering
56:51
the country a four year
financing package worth roughly
56:54
$16 billion. The IMF said on
Tuesday they have reached a
56:59
staff level agreement with
Ukrainian authorities. The
57:02
agreement must still be ratified
by the IMF executive board. If
57:06
approved. This would be
Ukraine's biggest loan package
57:09
since war started. It would also
be the IMF biggest loan to a
57:12
country involved in an active
conflict. The IMF said its
57:16
executive board is expected to
discuss approval in the coming
57:19
weeks. The Ukrainian Prime
Minister and US Treasury
57:22
Secretary Janet Yellen welcomed
the deal.
57:28
Adam Curry: So we'll have them
completely under control.
57:31
Austerity austerity is coming
Ukraine as poor people whatever
57:35
is left of that country. I mean,
it's got it's gotta be over.
57:39
It's just gotta be over. Well,
they still with some still some
57:48
military industrial complex
spending the EU this time the
57:52
foreign and defence ministers of
the European Union have agreed
57:55
on a 2 billion euro plan to send
desperately needed ammunition to
58:00
Ukraine. Now the deal provides
me with 1 million artillery
58:04
shells over the next year. Funds
are also intended to help EU
58:07
member states replenish their
own ammunition supplies, which
58:10
have dwindled rapidly since the
war in Ukraine began I didn't
58:17
even know who manufactures ammo
in in Europe do you know
58:22
John C Dvorak: well, they said
Norway I saw that report. This
58:25
is Norway I guess has a couple
factories now France and France
58:29
and Sweden France for sure. And
but of course you know, they
58:32
always go back to Scranton, and
get them spent shells from us.
58:37
This is the report along the
same lines that I got was a
58:40
little weird because I can't get
kind of a I can't figure out
58:47
what's going on with these F 16
XPlay. There's no f 16 clip.
58:51
Unknown: The US is saying no to
sending fighter jets to Ukraine.
58:55
This despite fellow NATO members
Poland and Slovakia doing just
58:58
that. The State Department says
Poland and Slovakia as moves
59:02
would not impact us policy.
Secretary of State Antony
59:05
Blinken called Poland's choice a
sovereign decision. Poland
59:09
announced on March 16, it would
send fighter jets to Ukraine
59:12
becoming the first NATO country
to do so. Poland and Slovakia
59:16
has moved could be a turning
point for Ukraine and repelling
59:19
Russia's invasion. Keith has
asked for fighter jets since
59:23
last year only for Washington
and other NATO allies to refuse.
59:28
Adam Curry: I think it's clear
they just don't want they don't
59:30
want to. They don't want they
want the war to end. They don't
59:33
want to actually kill anybody
with the effort. They
59:36
John C Dvorak: keep saying
you're gonna send them and
59:37
they're not gonna send they're
gonna send them. I mean, this is
59:40
a report from yesterday. We're
Indian givers.
59:44
Adam Curry: Sorry for being
politically incorrect. No, no,
59:47
we don't want to give them and
we just don't want to give it to
59:49
him. It look like you're up do
it all. You got
59:55
John C Dvorak: to get Yeah, we
don't want to Well, it's just
59:58
just gonna get blowed up by the
Russians. So it's is going to be
1:00:00
a wasted total waste of money.
It's shells a little different.
1:00:03
You can million shells. So what
1:00:07
Adam Curry: well listen, a
million shells?
1:00:09
Unknown: I don't think so. 5000
1:00:11
John C Dvorak: last batch we
already they already blew up a
1:00:13
million shells.
1:00:14
Adam Curry: Well listen to that.
Here's the numbers in this
1:00:16
report from France. 24,155
1:00:19
Unknown: millimeter shells are
fired each day in Ukraine.
1:00:23
Adam Curry: 5000 are fired each
day in Ukraine. Where are they
1:00:26
going? Are they doing nothing.
1:00:29
Unknown: The army says it does
not have enough for its needs
1:00:32
and wants Ukraine's allies to
fill the gap as soon as
1:00:35
possible. This munitions factory
next is the only one in France
1:00:39
making the shells they cost 4000
euros apiece. Weekly output
1:00:44
comes to around 630 shells.
Currently, they were turning out
1:00:48
400 A week before Vladimir
Putin's full scale invasion of
1:00:52
Ukraine began over a year ago,
the slightest error during the
1:00:55
manufacturing process
1:00:57
Adam Curry: so it would take
them nine weeks to come up with
1:01:01
their daily allotment
1:01:02
Unknown: or the week before
Vladimir Putin is full scale
1:01:05
invasion of Ukraine began over a
year ago. The slightest error
1:01:08
during the manufacturing process
can prove fatal on the front.
1:01:13
The shell has to be perfect.
Otherwise with the speed goes
1:01:16
begins to vibrate and one
travels straight. It could go in
1:01:19
all directions it won't have any
precision.
1:01:22
French authorities want to
regroup manufacturer of all
1:01:25
shell components to France,
including this powder used to
1:01:28
fire the shower supplies over
the last 15 years have come from
1:01:32
Sweden, but from next year the
powder will be produced in the
1:01:35
door Dwayne and Frances
southwest, a central part of
1:01:38
quality control is x rang each
shell to give it the old clear.
1:01:43
Adam Curry: So there's some kind
of move to I'm not quite sure
1:01:45
what it means but moving the
powder manufacturer from Sweden
1:01:49
to France, there's something
going on there.
1:01:52
John C Dvorak: Something's going
on everywhere. So they're just
1:01:56
shooting these things off. 5000
a pop and then it's like, oh,
1:02:00
heaven forbid they're not
accurate. Yeah. Are you kidding
1:02:04
me? No. Do you think that they
get hurt? They actually have a
1:02:08
target.
1:02:09
Adam Curry: No, I think that
just just like fireworks. So
1:02:11
just shooting stuff around.
zooms.
1:02:15
John C Dvorak: I have this funny
clip. This is a weird request
1:02:18
from Blinken.
1:02:20
Unknown: The State Department is
facing a deadline to provide
1:02:23
documents on the Afghanistan
withdrawal. The chairman of the
1:02:26
House Foreign Affairs Committee
sent a letter to Secretary of
1:02:29
State Antony Blinken,
Congressman Michael McCaul said
1:02:32
in the letter that the State
Department must send at least
1:02:35
three requested documents by the
end of today. McCall said the
1:02:38
committee will issue a subpoena
if the materials are not
1:02:41
produced before March 23. The
day of Lincoln's testimony
1:02:45
before the committee, a State
Department spokesperson said the
1:02:48
department is providing hundreds
of pages of documents and will
1:02:51
continue to do so. But he said
he could not answer when the
1:02:54
department would provide the
three specific documents most
1:02:57
urgently requested.
1:02:59
Adam Curry: So what exactly do
they want?
1:03:02
John C Dvorak: They want this
appear I guess there's three
1:03:04
dots some sort of there's some
sort of corruption that's
1:03:07
involved with they're leaving
Afghanistan, they're looking for
1:03:10
three specific documents that I
guess some whistleblower told
1:03:13
them about. And they can't they
can't seem to extract them.
1:03:16
Adam Curry: And because in
charge of getting that Mr.
1:03:19
Military Industrial Complex, I
don't get it. By the way, you
1:03:23
know, Pocky shwarma, who was at
W IOM and she left and your
1:03:28
friend? Yes. And she's not first
post and most of her stories. I
1:03:33
don't know is that too long that
you know, there's not there's
1:03:36
nothing really clippable but I
got one that's very clickable,
1:03:39
very short. And this is about
Afghanistan. Now that we've
1:03:43
withdrawn, the Taliban is in
trouble. A recent study
1:03:47
Unknown: shows that the Taliban
is having difficulty adapting to
1:03:50
typical civilian life. They're
tired of daily things that haunt
1:03:53
most mere mortals, like traffic
thieves and office jobs. How
1:03:58
times have changed. The Taliban
is complaining about being
1:04:01
robbed by common thieves. And
they despise desktops. Most of
1:04:06
them are now quite quitting, or
doing the bare minimum at their
1:04:10
jobs. Instead of being the
harbingers of doom. They're
1:04:13
stuck in Twitter's Doom scroll.
They complain about spending
1:04:17
most of their time on Twitter.
They become addicted to the
1:04:20
internet. They say they quote
unquote Mr. Jihad life. The
1:04:25
Taliban clearly misses the good
things like causing bloodshed.
1:04:29
Adam Curry: They're quiet
quitting the Taliban and
1:04:31
quitting because they're bored.
1:04:35
John C Dvorak: And they're on
Twitter
1:04:36
Adam Curry: at the Doom
scrolling. Of course, there's no
1:04:39
one to kill there's no one left
to kill. There's nothing left to
1:04:41
do decades
1:04:43
John C Dvorak: to get on tick
tock.
1:04:46
Adam Curry: decades and decades
of killing and like now we gotta
1:04:49
like, like direct traffic and we
got to have law enforcement and
1:04:54
Rob. Want to get robbed by
common criminals? Where's the G?
1:05:00
hottie bloodshed? Yeah, this is
great. This is well done. Yeah.
1:05:07
Now, they need a new enemy. I
guess I'm not sure what they
1:05:11
what they want to do.
1:05:13
John C Dvorak: Well, the place
is falling apart. It's got
1:05:15
horses, all the reports. They're
desperate, they're broke. People
1:05:21
are starving to death. It's not
good. No NGOs at all been kicked
1:05:27
out or they actually haven't
been kicked out. But they made
1:05:29
sure that women can't run them.
And most of them are run by
1:05:32
women. Yeah. So that's the end
of that. Yeah.
1:05:36
Adam Curry: It's not because
they're women. But is that
1:05:41
because they're women? And you
said the way you said that was
1:05:44
kind of weird.
1:05:45
John C Dvorak: Because well,
they were they kicked the women
1:05:47
out. They won't let the women do
anything I tell the bad guys has
1:05:51
gone back to their old ways.
1:05:54
Adam Curry: All right. So
because they won't let women run
1:05:56
the show and run the office and
do all the stuff that you know
1:06:01
John C Dvorak: that they're
Yeah, they're good. I wouldn't
1:06:05
say they're any better than men
at it. But they lies in the
1:06:08
situations with an NGO that's
that's pretty much let's see
1:06:12
manage by women, right? You need
the women. So don't can have
1:06:19
that there in that area. This
guy got a lot of China's stuff
1:06:25
here that might be interesting.
Let's start with that. First of
1:06:29
all, here's a story that we
never heard of. And I didn't
1:06:31
know this was going on, over and
over again. Which reminds me,
1:06:35
you know, in San Francisco,
we've had these, these
1:06:40
Adam Curry: police station gang
1:06:42
John C Dvorak: fights, gang
fights stonestown Mall,
1:06:45
Adam Curry: where it was stones,
stones town, most of those Towne
1:06:48
mall in San
1:06:49
John C Dvorak: Francisco. Every
I guess it's Wednesday when the
1:06:53
kids get at school or they go to
the mall. And then they just a
1:06:56
big fight. You can look it up by
Google's got lots of movies of
1:06:59
them. And these kids are wailing
on each other. It's quite
1:07:02
something to see what kind of
crap high school kids and their
1:07:09
stomping kid each other and
they're beaten as security
1:07:12
guards up. It's just been going
on. And they claim it's happened
1:07:16
three times over the weekend. It
was happening and happening and
1:07:18
they make a big fuss about it
because the cops can't do
1:07:20
anything about it. Because not
enough cops. There's literally
1:07:23
hundreds of kids fighting. And
then if you talk to some of the
1:07:30
kids, or they interview some of
the kids has been going on for
1:07:33
months, these these fights in
the mall, and there's just
1:07:38
violent fights. And courses San
Francisco's got lax everything.
1:07:42
So they, they can't do anything
about it. But I remember when I
1:07:46
was a kid, we used to have
situations like this too. And it
1:07:51
was it's not like new. In fact,
in the olden days during the
1:07:56
Alameda County Fair, on July the
fourth every single year when I
1:08:01
was in high school, a riot would
break out at the fair between
1:08:06
Mexican gangs Oh, and they just
beat the crowd. You could be I
1:08:10
was there for a couple of
minutes just there's just fights
1:08:12
every which way you look all
around you you have to be you
1:08:15
don't get caught up in it
because you're not a member. We
1:08:17
either one of the gangs and they
know who everybody is. But it's
1:08:20
just like these kids. They
really have to be policed. Now
1:08:24
Adam Curry: are the Are there
particular identifiable gangs?
1:08:27
And because you say, you know,
when you were a kid with the
1:08:29
Mexican gangs, were these
identifiable these these kids
1:08:32
who are gangs and beating up?
1:08:34
John C Dvorak: They were wearing
specific colors? No, they just,
1:08:37
they just knew who was in their
group and they knew the other
1:08:40
guys weren't in their group and
they went after each other. They
1:08:44
didn't go after by bystanders.
And it seems like there's still
1:08:48
this Town Mall stuff. If you
stay out of the way. You won't
1:08:51
get hurt. Because they're not
going after bystanders. It is
1:08:55
something's going on. There's
some gaps in
1:08:57
Adam Curry: action. The police
have been defunded and children
1:09:00
are allowed to do anything they
want because they're all their
1:09:03
parents are woke at San
Francisco. Hello.
1:09:06
John C Dvorak: Yeah, that's
exactly right. What you just
1:09:08
said. I agree.
1:09:10
Adam Curry: Do you have a clip?
1:09:12
John C Dvorak: Well, let's go to
the clip. I was trying to figure
1:09:14
which one it was. Did stuff that
you don't hear about this is
1:09:17
Sandstorm in China.
1:09:19
Adam Curry: Sandstorm in
1:09:20
Unknown: China, sandstorms
drought in Beijing in northern
1:09:24
China on Wednesday, as air
pollution rose to hazardous
1:09:27
levels. The sandstorm blanketed
buildings and roads and a thick
1:09:31
cloud of orange dust. Beijing
has experienced sand and dust
1:09:35
storms over the past several
days, causing pollution levels
1:09:38
to increase drastically. Today,
the air quality index reached a
1:09:42
level considered very hazardous
to human health. A figure that
1:09:46
is more than 37 times the daily
average guideline set by the
1:09:50
World Health Organization.
Visibility is very poor in many
1:09:54
areas, but residents in Beijing
said the weather mostly didn't
1:09:57
hamper their daily routine.
1:10:00
cloth and in terms of effects
from the scent storm, there's
1:10:03
the smell of dust on the subway.
But when I go outside, I can't
1:10:07
feel it that much because the
subway entrance is very close to
1:10:10
my home. The impacts are not
that great, but can still feel
1:10:13
the effects of it.
1:10:15
This is the third Sandstorm this
month, a government agency
1:10:19
issued yellow warnings for
nearly a dozen provinces for
1:10:22
Wednesday and Thursday. Beijing
is regularly hit with sandstorms
1:10:26
in the spring with the smog made
worse by industrial pollution.
1:10:30
Adam Curry: You've really
confused me. What does this have
1:10:32
to do with the gangs? Kids now?
1:10:34
John C Dvorak: I'm just saying
this. Well, I was discussing
1:10:37
about the gangs as the
unreported aspect of it, which
1:10:40
is the fact that nobody's unless
you're local, knows that this
1:10:43
has been going on for months on
and nationally, you think it
1:10:46
just happened, but the
sandstorms in China? I didn't
1:10:50
know where's this desert that's
creating the sandstorms? I mean,
1:10:54
any Chinese listeners that can
tell us? No. I was in a
1:10:59
sandstorm once in my life. A
real one. I was in one was with
1:11:06
it. Mine was in a negative
Israel. And it was a sandstorm.
1:11:12
And it's, it's like, it's like,
just not like what you think and
1:11:16
you see it in a movie is it's
just basically it's like a fog
1:11:21
of sand.
1:11:23
Adam Curry: I was in the
sandstorm when I went to Iraq,
1:11:25
we flew to Kuwait, Kuwait City,
and we had to, we landed and
1:11:31
then we had to wait on the plane
for about 45 minutes. I say,
1:11:37
because a sandstorm was coming
through. And you're right. It's
1:11:40
like it's like this big cloud.
And then it was just that it was
1:11:43
just gone. It would Okay,
sandstorm, and we got off. And
1:11:46
it was done.
1:11:47
John C Dvorak: Yeah, no, this
one lasted for a whole day. And
1:11:49
it was a real shame hit Tel Aviv
it was the worst Sandstorm in
1:11:53
their history.
1:11:55
Adam Curry: I want to I want to
go back to the gangs. I want to
1:11:58
go back to the gangs. Okay,
because I have a gang clip. By
1:12:03
coincidence. Yes, there's big
news from New York. And this was
1:12:08
completely avoidable. And there
are other people. This is not
1:12:12
just some stupid kid while it
is. But this is something that
1:12:17
we talked about, maybe a year
ago. And now it's cutting out
1:12:23
they still don't know really
what who's who's responsible and
1:12:25
how this can be stopped. Listen
to this report.
1:12:28
Unknown: officials think this
could be the largest gang
1:12:30
takedown in history in the
borough of Queens and Fox five
1:12:34
was given exclusive access as it
happened. The Queens District
1:12:38
Attorney along with the NYPD
chief of detectives, announcing
1:12:41
the 151 count indictment of 33
alleged gang members our own
1:12:47
Lisa Evers was embedded with the
operation as NYPD detectives
1:12:52
rounded up the suspects. And
she's here now to bring us this
1:12:55
fox five exclusive Lisa take it
away.
1:12:57
Well, Chris this longterm
investigation began with the
1:13:00
murder of a promising team
basketball player now nearly
1:13:03
four years later, and YPD
detectives tell us they have
1:13:06
dismantled two rival gangs who
terrorize South Jamaica
1:13:10
residents with reckless gunfire
using drill music videos and
1:13:14
social media to fuel their
beefs.
1:13:16
Adam Curry: I talked about this
specifically, the drill rap,
1:13:20
which is happening on YouTube,
where kids are rapping about
1:13:25
which other kid they're going to
kill. They go off and they do
1:13:28
it. And then they do another
drill rap video about killing
1:13:32
the kid and then the other team,
you know the other gang does the
1:13:35
same. And this is being
propagated by YouTube algorithms
1:13:40
and sub labels of Sony and
Universal Music. They give these
1:13:46
guys publishing deals to make
these records. It hits the
1:13:51
algos, then Spotify picks them
up once they have the record
1:13:54
deal and Spotify is then
promoting this stuff. This is
1:13:58
this is why it's yes. I got this
from mo this is exactly yes.
1:14:02
This is drill rap. It's
happening everywhere is
1:14:04
happening in the UK. It's
happening all over the world in
1:14:08
the weirdest places. But this is
a big thing and the end the
1:14:12
algos pick up their their
homemade songs and YouTube
1:14:16
videos. Then they get a record
deal sublabel publishing deals,
1:14:20
and then it gets played on
Spotify and then they're just
1:14:23
killing each other. And the and
the whole thing is propagated by
1:14:27
Silicon Valley in the music
industry. I'm pointing them out
1:14:31
specifically.
1:14:32
John C Dvorak: Do you have one
example of one kill a rap
1:14:35
whatever. So go
1:14:36
Adam Curry: on, go on YouTube,
go on YouTube. The lyrics are
1:14:40
all about who they're killing,
who they're gonna kill, and then
1:14:42
they have the count. One
example. Oh my goodness. Just go
1:14:46
to YouTube and put in drill rap.
You'll get it and you look at
1:14:49
the views and the algos are
picking it up. I have many
1:14:52
examples. I don't have anything
clipped. Oh yeah. Yep.
1:14:59
John C Dvorak: And this is done
Good.
1:15:03
Adam Curry: But in case you
hadn't noticed, the music
1:15:05
business has moved to this model
of songs about young black men
1:15:10
killing each other. It's been
that way for a while, as radio
1:15:13
stations that play it, the
algorithms promote it. Yeah,
1:15:17
this is why music business has
become
1:15:20
John C Dvorak: less, you can
make the argument that that's
1:15:23
what they want.
1:15:24
Adam Curry: I think I'm not
going to argue with that.
1:15:30
Exactly. We got to we got I
think we have to do two donation
1:15:36
segments. So before we take our
first one, everybody bales
1:15:41
losers. With the big IPCC report
came out. Did you read it?
1:15:50
John C Dvorak: Another one, they
keep coming out? Well,
1:15:52
Adam Curry: this is this is the
new one. And this is the it's
1:15:55
not just the IPCC report, this
is the synthesis report. And
1:16:00
this report not doesn't just
tell us we're all going to die.
1:16:05
It tells us what we need to do
about it. And I have a little
1:16:08
intro here. It's well worth
listening to all seven minutes
1:16:12
of Antonio Gutierrez, because he
has a new speech writer. I just
1:16:17
have a minute. He's got a new
speech writer and they're just
1:16:19
throwing all kinds of cliches
into his speech, especially
1:16:23
since the guy calm. He can
barely speak English, let alone
1:16:26
she can't write it. They've got
someone in there to just just
1:16:30
sets it up to no end. Dear
1:16:32
Unknown: friends, humanity is on
thin ice. And that ice is
1:16:36
melting fast. Oh, good one. So
this Report of the
1:16:41
Intergovernmental Panel on
Climate Change IPCC details,
1:16:45
humans are responsible for
virtually all global heating
1:16:48
over the last 200 years.
1:16:49
Adam Curry: Yeah. 200 years. 200
years. Were responsible for it.
1:16:53
200 years? Yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh,
yeah. Don't you argue? Don't you
1:16:59
argue
1:17:00
Unknown: heating over the last
200 years. The rate of
1:17:04
temperature rise in the last
half century is the highest in
1:17:07
2000 years.
1:17:08
Adam Curry: Whoa, the rate of
rise is the highest in 2000
1:17:12
years.
1:17:12
Unknown: concentrations of
carbon dioxide are at their
1:17:15
highest in at least 2 million
years.
1:17:18
million years.
1:17:20
The climate time bomb
1:17:23
Adam Curry: the climate time
bomb is ticking remind you of
1:17:26
anything?
1:17:29
John C Dvorak: Will the other
population population population
1:17:32
time bomb?
1:17:33
Unknown: Yes, in at least 2
million years. The climate time
1:17:37
bomb is ticking time bomb. But
today's IPCC report is how to
1:17:42
guide to defuse the climate time
bomb.
1:17:45
Adam Curry: Oh Time Bomb defuse
the climate time bomb. It is a
1:17:49
survival
1:17:50
Unknown: guide for humanity. Oh,
as it shows the 1.5 degree limit
1:17:55
is achievable. But it will take
a quantum leap in climate
1:17:59
action,
1:17:59
Adam Curry: a quantum leap in
climate action. These reports
1:18:04
Unknown: is a clarion call to
massively Fast Track climate
1:18:06
efforts by every country and
every sector. And on every time
1:18:11
frame. In short, our world needs
climate action on all fronts,
1:18:16
everything everywhere, all at
once. And he
1:18:19
Adam Curry: throws a movie your
reference in there
1:18:22
John C Dvorak: to the movie
title in it, it just won the
1:18:24
Academy Award for Best Picture.
I knew.
1:18:29
Adam Curry: And I don't have any
more. The whole report is filled
1:18:32
with it is great. Now, so this
report does something very
1:18:37
John C Dvorak: big back what
does he say that to almost.
1:18:41
Adam Curry: So this report is
very specific and very
1:18:44
debuggable which is kind of cool
because they have these you
1:18:48
know, 150 years, 200 years, and
they show the graphs and they
1:18:52
show it moving up. You know the
hockey stick. If anyone's ever
1:18:58
listened to the show previously
in the past many years we've
1:19:01
played Michael Creighton's
Michael Crighton videos who who
1:19:07
of course wrote state of fear
about how climate activist
1:19:12
created all these hoaxes and
blew up you know, big sheets of
1:19:18
ice to try and coerce humanity
into jumping on board with this
1:19:24
scam and then he would do
lectures everywhere and then he
1:19:26
died. Sad Yeah. Michael
Creighton. Yes. Is Jurassic Park
1:19:31
died
1:19:31
John C Dvorak: prematurely.
Yeah, just suddenly.
1:19:36
Adam Curry: So here's just one
simple way of of debunking this
1:19:40
hoax, this particular hoax,
which now because it's these
1:19:43
numbers, it's the 2 million
years. It's the 200 years. It's
1:19:47
all these different years. And
this is physicist Brian cat, and
1:19:52
he will explain exactly how this
manipulation is done.
1:19:55
Unknown: We've been warming now
for the last sort of 150 years
1:19:59
or so. Give or take, since about
1850. There's something
1:20:04
interesting about that period,
isn't it? Tell it tell us about
1:20:07
that. Because it why did they
choose that point? Oh, that's
1:20:11
because it's the lowest point,
we are one degree above the
1:20:15
coldest it's been in the last
10,000 years, which is let's
1:20:18
just repeat that. I mean, that's
remarkable. And the other
1:20:21
remarkable thing is it's two
degrees cooler than the warmest.
1:20:24
It's been in the last 810 1000
years, which is the Egyptian and
1:20:28
the Minoan period. So this is
really important for us, because
1:20:32
this is data. And that,
essentially, the IPCC, they
1:20:38
always talk about that we are
one degree higher than than the
1:20:42
pre industrialization period
that 150 years ago. But what
1:20:45
you're saying, Brian is, that
was the lowest point in the last
1:20:47
10,000 years. Correct. So So in
a sense, that's why we shouldn't
1:20:51
be panicking, and that it's been
much warmer in two or three
1:20:55
previous periods. Yes. And in
the last interglacial, which was
1:20:59
130,000 years ago, when the
country is much pretty much
1:21:02
where it is now about 50 degrees
north from the equator, there
1:21:05
were hippopotami and elephants
on the banks of the River
1:21:07
Thames. That was quite exciting.
And it's well known this is
1:21:13
natural history. And it's it was
six degrees warmer than it is
1:21:16
now. And there were humans
wandering around the place,
1:21:19
presumably hunter gatherer and
happily, were a tropical
1:21:22
species.
1:21:25
Adam Curry: That's how they do
it. They just pick a point.
1:21:27
Don't go back too far. To show
you're warming. And that was the
1:21:30
that was one it was really cold.
Compared to 10,000 that you're
1:21:34
doing that's cool. scamming you
all the lie. Yeah. But you know,
1:21:38
we'll lie it was a lie. But you
we just heard the the Secretary
1:21:43
General of the United Nations
saying that you know, we're
1:21:46
about to all die.
1:21:50
John C Dvorak: It's a question
is what's in it for him? For
1:21:53
him? For anybody that's on this
bandwagon money. I mean, there's
1:21:59
other ways of making money,
1:22:01
Adam Curry: but this is free.
You have to do anything just
1:22:04
read the read the speech. Yeah,
you might have to do a podcast
1:22:09
with this effort in that Oh,
wow. Just money just to grab
1:22:17
just to grab or as we might say
value. Then with that, I'd like
1:22:21
to thank you for your courage
say in the morning to you the
1:22:23
man who put the sea in COP
speak. Ladies and gentlemen,
1:22:25
please say hello to my friend on
the way of their end. Mr. John
1:22:33
John C Dvorak: Byrne morning to
you Mr. Adam curry. Also in the
1:22:36
morning all ships and sea boots
on the ground feet in the air
1:22:38
sucks in the water and all the
games Nice.
1:22:41
Adam Curry: Let's take a look at
our troll room. Trolls Joe Joe.
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1943. I think we're a little
above average for our for our
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Thursday. Are we not?
1:22:52
John C Dvorak: Yeah, that won't
last?
1:22:54
Adam Curry: No, of course not.
It's 1943. And now it's 1909. Of
1:22:58
course, the minute the minute we
say hey, was this valuable? Be
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Oh, I don't I don't want to hear
the question. Because if I hear
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might be compelled to support
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Well, this is where you're wrong
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interest you at all. Yeah. Like,
1:24:17
I hate to do it, but then I
gotta mute the thread and
1:24:19
eventually have to mute people
or block people. It's just, I
1:24:22
don't know, I think it's, it's
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thank the Artist for episode
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1:25:10
we often laugh at the art. But
when we saw this piece from Mike
1:25:14
Riley, we both cracked up at the
same time. And you don't even
1:25:19
have to listen to the show.
You'd have to know anything
1:25:21
about our show, as witnessed
from people who were on Twitter,
1:25:25
who said, Oh my god, I have to
stop everything I'm doing right
1:25:29
now and listen to your show.
This was Mike Riley's zebra with
1:25:33
a ripped off arm which came from
a clip which was from the good
1:25:40
news section of the show. From
Yeah,
1:25:42
John C Dvorak: let's suppose
that good news that you've read
1:25:44
it on your on the behalf of the
end of the show.
1:25:49
Adam Curry: And there's Mike
Riley has some there's something
1:25:54
about his style man and the what
is it? What do you how do you
1:25:58
how
1:25:58
John C Dvorak: would you
characterize Oh, he's a
1:25:59
cartoonist. So they always they
don't think like normal people.
1:26:03
And so they always everything's
askew, it's just impossible to
1:26:07
you know, is even fine artists.
They can see things and you
1:26:11
know, compose in a certain way
that is that's, that's quote
1:26:14
unquote, art. But cartoonists
are like a different breed.
1:26:19
Yeah. And they have, they just
see there, they just see
1:26:22
everything. And once they get
into it, where they're really
1:26:24
get good. It's just like, wow, I
mean, I used to work with number
1:26:29
of cartoonists for some
promotional art. When I was at
1:26:32
PC magazine I gave him I had an
idea in my head and I just tell
1:26:37
it to him, and it's I knew what
to do. And they would they would
1:26:40
just put it together and it was
like I would never do and it's
1:26:43
10 times better than my original
thought, but just did their
1:26:46
astonishing people.
1:26:48
Adam Curry: And what I love is
we don't have to give any of our
1:26:49
artists any direction at all
1:26:53
John C Dvorak: just cases like
spot art Davis do it
1:26:55
Adam Curry: then no Riley he did
enter an earlier piece which was
1:26:59
the same with a pink background.
Yeah, and I'm glad he switched
1:27:04
it to that kind of was a dirty
orange what does that color
1:27:07
John C Dvorak: well he probably
wouldn't have got it with that
1:27:09
other background. Everything
bled into it it
1:27:12
Adam Curry: was really a
prominent blood from the ripped
1:27:14
off
1:27:14
John C Dvorak: looked there's no
good
1:27:16
Adam Curry: the man is a genius
certified genius. It was very
1:27:20
very funny. We're just cracking
up now we we did we of course we
1:27:24
look at all the art and you can
follow along. No agenda art
1:27:27
generator.com is where everyone
uploads and you could
1:27:31
participate to let's see, we had
Vladimir Putin in jail. We had
1:27:39
we had a lot of Trump actually
nice stuff like Sure dude named
1:27:45
Parker Paulie. I kind of the
Trump hair coughs oops. Shmoop
1:27:51
swoosh with handcuffs. That
looked pretty cool. There was a
1:27:54
45 with handcuffs. It was okay.
It was a Jamaica flag. What else
1:28:02
was there? There was a lot of
Trump indictment clips which I
1:28:05
would say in general would just
not really nice like, you know,
1:28:13
I don't think that is attractive
anymore for any product. Would
1:28:18
you say? Yeah, I agree. There
was some concept pieces shocked
1:28:23
a
1:28:23
John C Dvorak: robot we talked
about
1:28:27
Adam Curry: did you ever find
out what
1:28:30
John C Dvorak: No. We've
actually talked about the dinner
1:28:32
table for a long time and nobody
remembers including JC
1:28:36
Adam Curry: he doesn't remember
what his what his other ultra
1:28:38
ultra ego was the third 117 71
We lost 200 Trolls goodbye
1:28:44
trolls drown hope you drown.
Jenny boys for life, which you
1:28:51
use for the newsletter, which I
liked. But again, it wasn't
1:28:55
really something I mean, there
was nothing that compared to
1:28:58
O'Reilly's No,
1:28:59
John C Dvorak: there was no
comparison. There really wasn't
1:29:01
What else was there?
1:29:02
Adam Curry: Some Bitcoin stuff?
No, no. Comic Strip blogger with
1:29:06
a anti AI art now. It was really
it. I mean, sometimes you just
1:29:10
go Okay, that's it. There's just
no two ways about it. But we
1:29:14
appreciate the work that all of
the artists do. I mean, really,
1:29:16
you kick ass you every single
show. We have so much to choose
1:29:20
from. Now, we haven't gone back
to the Evergreen archives in
1:29:24
many many months. I don't think
because it's just there's just
1:29:29
always something that we can we
did about five months ago. Yeah,
1:29:33
that's many many months five
months ago. And it's already
1:29:36
filling up now. You can follow
along there no agenda art
1:29:39
generator.com. And the artists
do this live on the and by the
1:29:42
way, O'Reilly had to haul ass on
doing that thing because it was
1:29:46
near the end of the show.
1:29:49
John C Dvorak: If I recall you
had a zebra in his back pocket.
1:29:53
Adam Curry: Is that a zebra in
your back pocket? are you just
1:29:57
happy to see me Nobody in our
generator.com Thank you again to
1:30:03
all of our artists. We
appreciate the work you do. I
1:30:05
hope you appreciate the critique
that we give you because no one
1:30:08
else would be as honest with you
as we are. That's for sure. Now,
1:30:13
let us thank the executive and
Associate Executive producers
1:30:15
for episode 1541 540. And we
will kick it off with our
1:30:22
monthly massive supporter
ceramiche. Sir Hahnemann, your
1:30:28
honor, Mr. Anonymous of Dogpatch
and lower Slavia 25 to 2252. He
1:30:36
always comes in with numbers, we
have no idea what they mean. But
1:30:39
it's always very meaningful to
us. He received so much value
1:30:43
from the show. This is what he
returns back to us and I want to
1:30:47
read his note, which, as usual,
comes in with cash and is
1:30:51
typewritten it actually is that
printed? course was that is that
1:30:56
a typewriter? Can you tell us
that must be printed?
1:30:59
John C Dvorak: I'm pretty sure
it's a printer. But yeah, he
1:31:01
Yes, it has to be printed
1:31:03
Adam Curry: from Serrana must
have Dogpatch and Laura Sloboda.
1:31:05
Thank you for the continuing
hard work and keeping us
1:31:07
informed of world events and
reminding us of the bias in
1:31:10
reporting to sway our views. I
am certain none of the producers
1:31:14
ever use any of the techniques
learned on your soul to
1:31:17
influence a romantic interest or
other in their own best
1:31:20
interest. Well, that's an
interesting observation.
1:31:25
Answering an unasked questions I
used to Oh, yes, he often sends
1:31:30
a $2 bill or multiple $2 bills
in his his donation. I use $2
1:31:36
bills because it has the best
artwork of any US currency. What
1:31:41
is on the $2 bill John
Jefferson. I also use dollar
1:31:46
coins which I believe are some
of the better minted coins. Oh,
1:31:49
he's going for quality cash. I
encourage no agenda producers to
1:31:54
request to dollar bills at banks
and use them using cash is
1:31:58
already becoming arcane. Using
denominations that don't have a
1:32:01
natural place in most cash tills
is just fun sport and results in
1:32:06
many wonderful expressions. Yes,
and you meet fun children from
1:32:09
other lands when you do it.
You'll have a conversation you
1:32:11
might even date someone because
it's a it's a great conversation
1:32:16
starter. Next meet up
1:32:18
John C Dvorak: you I'm waiting
for them to do a big ahead $2
1:32:21
bill
1:32:23
Adam Curry: next waiting next
meet up use the $2 bill or
1:32:26
dollar coins as challenge coins.
As someone that requests both
1:32:29
denominations at banks it does
not take much to buy most of the
1:32:32
branches $2 inventory and like
toilet paper producers can
1:32:36
create a $2 bill shortage
1:32:40
Unknown: All right, sir.
1:32:43
Adam Curry: Thank you so much.
Love that love your love your
1:32:46
notes. Love the value return.
And thank you very much for
1:32:50
supporting the show. He refuses
any titles. He's just sir animus
1:32:55
of Dogpatch and Lois LeBeau via
that's it. And we are very, very
1:33:00
grateful to what he has done for
the show over many years.
1:33:05
John C Dvorak: So now we have
moving on to another fine donor.
1:33:09
Ryan and Jessica Sorensen in
Havre, Montana. Montana. One
1:33:16
540 $1,500.40 $1,540 BBB, jingle
and goat karma please Now shut
1:33:25
up and take my money. Okay,
start talking again. It's why we
1:33:29
send our cash this little stream
of consciousness opening there I
1:33:35
think this donation is a split
for me and my gorgeous wife
1:33:39
Jessica. Nice sharing executive
producer status you both be on
1:33:43
there. brings us up to Damon
Knight status. In before
1:33:47
inflation increased prices we
shall be known as Dame Jessica
1:33:52
and bear paws. I shall be
referred to as bad potato of
1:33:57
Beaver Creek. The county's
largest county park I might add
1:34:04
Beaver Creek I will be I will
bring homemade pastrami and a
1:34:09
hot rod jalapeno Amber I think
there's a beer to the roundtable
1:34:17
since my restaurant closed I
need an outlet for my cooking
1:34:20
needs another casualty of BBB Oh
boy. Also please wish my oldest
1:34:24
and CJ Happy Birthday is not
until April 14. But better now
1:34:28
than not at all. Thank you for
the entertainment keep it up
1:34:31
love is lit
1:34:34
Unknown: beyond your freedom
1:34:43
you've got
1:34:48
Adam Curry: sir carry sir Keris
or carries in Dracut Dracut
1:34:53
Dracut Massachusetts at big
massive dekap size boobs 800 Do
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It and 85 We got you know
jingles no karma. Thank you for
1:35:04
your courage. Paul, thank you
very much who cares by Count of
1:35:07
Greater Boston very much
appreciated. I'll hit early.
1:35:10
Mike Dorman since that was so
short. He's in Redmond,
1:35:13
Washington. In the morning Jen
has been listening since Adams
1:35:16
appearance on Tom woods. Tom
Woods donation please do you
1:35:21
spend D Do I have some old
fashioned Deac karma for my
1:35:25
mental health I've been overly
resentful since my employer
1:35:28
forced me to get the jab Love
and Light Mike Of course we got
1:35:34
some of that for you man.
1:35:36
Unknown: Ah Harma sorry to hear
that brother.
1:35:45
John C Dvorak: QQ is QQ in Key
West Florida 400 bucks. title
1:35:51
change is FEMA theme parts
dweller clarification QQ is
1:35:56
actually Q tab Q o. Using says
9098 for email services that
1:36:04
were asking stupid question like
F name and l name. In the US the
1:36:10
Q has completely different Sharp
has come Domina is going to read
1:36:15
this. Ask him pletely different
charge seems Hmm.
1:36:23
Adam Curry: I'm not sure exactly
what he means by
1:36:26
John C Dvorak: that. But he came
in at 400 bucks, whatever it
1:36:28
Adam Curry: was and he'll get a
title change. So he's going to
1:36:31
receive that thank you very much
queue, tab queue. Up next we
1:36:35
have damn Kendra, Riverside,
California 399 96. And she sent
1:36:41
in a note a card actually looks
like a looks like St. Patrick's
1:36:46
Day note. What does it say here
Dear John Adams sorry I
1:36:50
abandoned you during the Great
Pay Pal purge of 2022. This
1:36:54
donation represents one year of
3333 monthly contributions. Hope
1:37:00
this cute puppy brings some
Irish karma will reinstate
1:37:04
monthly donations in q1. Lots of
love Dame Kendra I can't see the
1:37:09
front of the card though. I
ended the front
1:37:12
John C Dvorak: of the card was
torn off for some reason J took
1:37:14
it off for some probably some
art purpose as a cute puppy. Oh
1:37:20
really national Puppy DAY. I
think it was a cute puppy.
1:37:24
Adam Curry: Oh, thank you very
much. We appreciate that.
1:37:28
John C Dvorak: I'm going to stop
this for a second and and bring
1:37:32
in a 397 donation which is from
the bareness of Baja. Oh. Police
1:37:40
credits 397 Tucson ladies and
gentlemen start your livers pre
1:37:44
St. Patrick's Day. I have the
note here with the with a list
1:37:48
of people that contributed. And
1:37:51
Adam Curry: oh, okay, so this is
from this is a meetup donation.
1:37:55
John C Dvorak: Yeah. Okay,
gotcha. Now, it wasn't a scan
1:37:59
because it's on deep red paper.
And blue ink on top of that,
1:38:05
it's very hard to read. But I'm
gonna read a couple of these
1:38:09
names. This first one I don't
want to read because it's under
1:38:14
50. Dame Beth came in with 100
coal from Casa Grande Ruins.
1:38:19
Oops. Well, there was as a make
hint don't know who that is.
1:38:22
That's under 50 under 50 under
50. Coyote shit poster club 100
1:38:33
Now they're under 50 Meyer from
the Casa Grande Ruins. 100.
1:38:39
Somehow this all came to 397
Okay, well I got but I could do
1:38:46
as best I could do. And I want
to thank everybody at the
1:38:50
Arizona me but I liked his idea
of doing some collections for
1:38:53
the show at these meetups.
1:38:55
Adam Curry: Yeah, it's a very
good idea. And what do they say
1:38:57
here? Special thanks to Tim for
bringing no agenda Jeopardy much
1:39:01
fun was had by all jingles
mudflaps and our formula is this
1:39:04
the two we got wrong? Oh, that
must have been for the no agenda
1:39:08
Jeopardy. Hanging our heads in
shame thanking you for your
1:39:11
courage Dame Beth bareness of
Baja Arizona cause
1:39:14
Unknown: of what's happening in
Greenland right now the maps of
1:39:17
the world will have to be
redrawn This is what would
1:39:22
happen to San Francisco Bay
1:39:28
Adam Curry: and here's the other
one you got wrong happy to play
1:39:30
in our formula is this we go out
for yet people in the mouth all
1:39:39
right. I like this idea I like
this idea of no agenda Jeopardy.
1:39:43
We should probably pretty call
it no agenda trivia. To avoid
1:39:47
any any issues. Me well as spin
out in New York, New York is
1:39:52
this mix? You're checking in
from New York City shout out to
1:39:56
my brother cleantie For his
first donation, love and prayers
1:39:59
to my boyfriend. Got a Tesla not
on IG who lost his mom a while
1:40:03
ago mad love to Sir Michael
Anthony and Mark s who I met at
1:40:06
a meet up three 383 My birthday
we got you covered brother No
1:40:10
problem.
1:40:13
John C Dvorak: Kelly Shermer in
Concord, North Carolina, ATM
1:40:18
this donation is a switcheroo.
Make a note for my husband Jason
1:40:23
Allison, happy fifth anniversary
323 I hit him in the mouth in
1:40:26
2021. And we've been listening
ever since he donated before I
1:40:30
did. So may I please get a D
douching.
1:40:35
Unknown: You've been D deuced.
1:40:37
John C Dvorak: We're supposed to
take a belated honeymoon to
1:40:39
Barbados on March of 2020. But
the world went mad instead. And
1:40:44
we have yet to get a redo on our
trip. Can we have some vacation
1:40:47
karma please thank you for all
you do to keep us sane. In an
1:40:51
insane world we selfishly hope
you never find an exit strategy
1:40:55
that donation is for him. But if
I could please hear the three by
1:41:00
three jingle for myself. Thank
you for your courage and such.
1:41:04
And now it's
1:41:04
Unknown: time for a three by
three. Experiment by JC D.
1:41:10
Comparing story from ABC, CBS
and NBC.
1:41:18
You've got karma.
1:41:22
Adam Curry: Now if you could do
this next one for me because I
1:41:24
didn't grab these jingles and
I'll grab them real quick now
1:41:26
that would be helpful.
1:41:29
John C Dvorak: Valentino are
gentle Jarrow, AR AR g i e r o
1:41:35
in Ann Arbor, Michigan. And he
writes please add website. Cas
1:41:42
does Castile salon no.com That's
CASTLSI L A No. Was show credit
1:41:50
Thanks. Who put on the on the
show credit. Coursers he goes
1:41:54
screw your freedom. No, no a
drone again, show note ITM keep
1:41:58
the great work going. You know
who else does great work my
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company? Casta Salerno, a small
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that makes all natural grooming
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at casts Castel salon.com LLC
Valentino or Jarrow
1:42:19
Unknown: your freedom no
1:42:24
Adam Curry: don't want the full
track would do the do the shorty
1:42:27
the shorty here
1:42:33
now I got this note from about
chap Williams, who donated
1:42:37
twice.
1:42:39
John C Dvorak: Don't forget Eric
Nelson.
1:42:41
Adam Curry: I'm sorry, I forget
Eric Nelson didn't mean to do
1:42:43
that. Eric Nelson says thanks
for the immense value 333 Thank
1:42:47
you. He's an odd place that
because we got chap Williams who
1:42:50
donated 333 dot 33 Twice. Yeah.
Do you think this
1:42:55
John C Dvorak: came in from the
these are bank checks. So they
1:42:57
came in from one of those
payment services which we get a
1:43:00
lot of checks from? And I looked
at the two checks because they
1:43:03
came in kind of about the same
time but one was dated the next
1:43:07
day. So there's two different
days one day apart.
1:43:09
Adam Curry: Okay, well, he'll
get an executive producer ship
1:43:11
for that. Kelly Conway's and you
get a note from No, I have no
1:43:17
notes. Do you have a note? I
have no notes. No, no. Zero? No.
1:43:21
But well, then we get a double
double karma Kellyanne Conway
1:43:29
sabeel New York 326 91 Good
morning Adam and John has been a
1:43:33
while since my last donation
turning 32 on March 26. This
1:43:36
week and just wanted a birthday
shout out. Hence the donation of
1:43:39
326 91 Got it. Thanks for all
you do want some new pregnancy
1:43:44
karma. In the meantime, while we
can help you with some new
1:43:46
pregnancy karma, you gotta
Kelly's got karma.
1:43:52
John C Dvorak: Now we have some
of our very few of our February
1:43:56
of two of the Palindrome
donations for this Palindrome
1:44:01
today is three to three to three
yesterday was three to two to
1:44:06
three and those are the two that
got the attention, sir otaku in
1:44:10
Flower Mound, Texas. He's 32223,
which is a palindrome lucky
1:44:16
palindrome. I couldn't pass up
the Palindrome donation. Here's
1:44:22
here's to more of the best
podcasts in the universe, sir.
1:44:25
Oh, taco Duke of the Northeast
Texas in the Red River Valley.
1:44:30
Adam Curry: Anonymous in
aspermont, Texas three, two
1:44:32
2.23. There it is the Palindrome
in the morning gentlemen, thank
1:44:35
you for the amazing media
deconstruction every week no
1:44:38
jingles by Dooney jobs karma.
There's high school ag teacher
1:44:42
is done and ready for something
new. Also add me to the birthday
1:44:45
list. 33 on the 22nd Nice.
You've got it all covered. Love
1:44:50
and little anonymous from Texas
jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs for
1:44:57
jobs. Harmar
1:45:02
John C Dvorak: broken wall films
in Carson City Nevada, tu tu tu
1:45:07
tu tu a bunch of ducks, but this
is a switcheroo please make a
1:45:10
note. Please credit, Garrett. It
looks like Elaine. We're a ll ai
1:45:18
n as Associate Executive
Producer and add him to the
1:45:20
birthday segment. Good birthday
history 22 He's crushing it and
1:45:26
going to no agenda meetups in
Charleston South Carolina. Happy
1:45:30
birthday from the best brother
in the universe and the best
1:45:34
podcast in the universe. Okay,
got it.
1:45:36
Adam Curry: Switcheroo noted sir
dirty Jersey whore Gladewater,
1:45:39
Texas to 1976 also Associate
Executive Producer ship.
1:45:43
crackpot and buzzkill sir dirty
Jersey horror here no jingles
1:45:45
but I would like a jobs karma.
Just a quick note to promote the
1:45:48
upcoming northeast Texas meetup
this Saturday one day only.
1:45:52
Northeast Texas mushroom hunt
outdoor movie bonfire and no
1:45:56
agenda slash hug story meet up
Oh, that's cool up with the hug
1:45:59
stories. Come join other fellow
Gitmo nation slaves at Fred
1:46:03
lobster International Speedway
in Gladewater. Texas. It starts
1:46:07
around five ish we'll be
providing pulled pork sandwiches
1:46:10
some other goodies. For more
information and to RSVP go to no
1:46:14
agenda meetups.com jobs karma
much appreciated Thanks y'all be
1:46:17
good. Please go visit that. That
meetup sir. Dirty Jersey whore
1:46:23
is an interesting dude. You'll
like him.
1:46:26
Unknown: Jobs, jobs and jobs for
jobs.
1:46:35
John C Dvorak: Here's Ashley
Slater. Who comes in with $22.33
1:46:41
I don't know where she's from.
It doesn't say did you get the
1:46:45
goods from her? She sent a
couple bound
1:46:49
Adam Curry: where we are of
course here in Jamaica so if it
1:46:54
came in while we were here I
have not received it. I do not
1:46:58
know what
1:46:58
John C Dvorak: she she does
leather goods.
1:47:01
Adam Curry: Really? Oh the the
notebooks I yeah, I read this I
1:47:04
read Oh, she didn't Yes. No, we
didn't get it. I read the note.
1:47:07
I remember what I'm talking
about. Yeah.
1:47:09
John C Dvorak: Well, they're
dynamite.
1:47:11
Adam Curry: Oh cool. So he
received him
1:47:12
John C Dvorak: well, she said I
hope by now that my talent
1:47:15
donation arrives in your hands I
guess not prior to this being
1:47:18
read as a as I made each of you
your own leather bound journal
1:47:23
was hand tool designed in at 33
incorporated into it so send one
1:47:27
to me me and keep her there you
have it for my birthday. My
1:47:32
husband do name Ben commissioned
me to make each of you a
1:47:35
journalist so he bought him for
us. So he's got some sort of
1:47:38
credit. I guess. She made them
though. Yes, she did make them
1:47:44
she's going to be hosting a meet
up I hope it's on the meetup
1:47:47
things you set it to no agenda
meetups, that kind of a meet up
1:47:50
with my husband and friend
marina on Friday, March 31. At
1:47:53
first at cowboy Jackson,
Bloomington. Seven to 10 I'm not
1:48:00
sure if it's on the meetups.
Hopefully, I'm sure it is. And
1:48:04
this has got some Instagram
links which I can't read because
1:48:07
Adam Curry: I'm gonna put it no
the what you need is her Insta
1:48:10
handle is ashen fire underscore
originals. We'll put it in the
1:48:14
credit. We'll put it in the
credit so you can find it there.
1:48:18
John C Dvorak: No jingles no
karma. Please say hello to our
1:48:20
three daughters. Katya, Gwyneth
and Gweneth Yes, hello. I'm
1:48:27
saying hello. I know I'm waiting
for you to say that Alexei.
1:48:30
Hello. Wow. They think it was
pretty cool. Oh, thank you very
1:48:37
much. So Mom,
1:48:39
Adam Curry: thank you very much,
Ashley. We will be I'm sure I
1:48:43
saw the pictures I'm sure
they're beautiful. Can't wait to
1:48:45
can't wait to pick them up. And
our last Associate Executive
1:48:49
Producer Brett bird from Katy
Texas. Carmen would be
1:48:52
appreciate appreciate it from
Brett. And let me just see
1:48:56
16 156 Trolls so left okay,
well, the good guys are still
1:49:00
here. Thank you very much,
Brett.
1:49:02
Unknown: You've got karma
1:49:07
John C Dvorak: and thank these
these are Executive Associate
1:49:10
Executive producers for show
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Adam Curry: And we have one week
left until the brand new
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everyone's very excited you can
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look at the old one now
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for supporting the best podcast
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1:49:28
John C Dvorak: Our formula is
this we go out for yet people in
1:49:32
the mouth
1:49:47
Adam Curry: I'm very I'm very
disappointed in in many
1:49:54
deconstructionist podcasters who
we typically kind of know
1:49:59
Typically really appreciate,
like Jimmy Dore, I'd say we both
1:50:04
are Jimmy Dore fans. Why you
like, you know what I'm gonna do
1:50:07
John C Dvorak: I know where this
is going.
1:50:09
Adam Curry: I'm so disappointed
that everyone just mindlessly
1:50:14
and blindly follows Facebook and
Twitter posts and think,
1:50:19
John C Dvorak: why we're the
best podcast in the universe
1:50:21
because we have for one thing we
always have. It makes a
1:50:25
difference to have two hosts,
1:50:26
Adam Curry: correct. Although
Jimmy Dore has a sidekick
1:50:30
John C Dvorak: Oh, the psychics
are different. Those are guys
1:50:32
just making jokes on the side. a
one man show.
1:50:36
Adam Curry: Exactly, exactly.
And also, we have boots on the
1:50:40
ground everywhere. And we, we
incorporate those into our show,
1:50:44
we listen to people we read the
emails that we receive, we
1:50:48
appreciate and, and value boots
on the ground reports from
1:50:52
people who know what they're
talking about. And we have and
1:50:54
everyone's an expert in at least
one thing, everyone's an expert
1:50:57
in something. So this is the the
farmers citizen movement party,
1:51:04
which kind of swept the
elections, the provincial
1:51:07
elections in the Netherlands,
they got 17 seats in government,
1:51:10
it's a big deal. Unfortunately,
this was all a marketing
1:51:14
campaign. These two guys who
have been have an advertising
1:51:19
company and have been
advertising and creating
1:51:23
campaigns for all of the big I
would say big agriculture
1:51:29
chemical companies. Really if
you look at they're at the party
1:51:34
program, they're all in they
feel the nitrogen crisis while
1:51:37
is understandable, they are not
as is advertised. The the party
1:51:44
that all of a sudden the whole
country voted for because
1:51:47
they're, you know, everyone
wants to stand behind the
1:51:50
farmers. Yes, they might have
done that they might have
1:51:52
thought that but this party is
not they're not the good guys.
1:51:56
They are all in on the tiny
homes. They're all in on nature
1:51:59
before the farmers and I just
need to play this clip of Jimmy
1:52:03
Dore because he really missed
the mark. And the end the
1:52:06
egregious part is he's reading
from the New York Times and
1:52:10
thinks the New York Times is
going to give you the truth.
1:52:13
Come on, Jimmy, you know better
than that.
1:52:15
Unknown: So the government
announcement comes so you're
1:52:16
gonna get rid of family farms
and the Netherlands that just
1:52:19
seems crazy.
1:52:20
Adam Curry: I mean, that's like
paper straws, I thought was
1:52:21
stupid. But this is like, you're
right, the sidekick is
1:52:25
worthless. It's you gotta have
two hosts, you gotta have two
1:52:28
who can catch each other and
check each other.
1:52:32
Unknown: In one of their largest
ever demonstrations, farmers
1:52:35
demanded that scrapping the
recently announced plans by the
1:52:37
Hague why do I tell you all
this? Because the Dutch Pro
1:52:41
Farmer party swept the
elections. Fascism. So those
1:52:46
farmers so they, they Yeah, they
are going to be called white
1:52:49
supremacist fascists Nazis, you
know that.
1:52:52
Adam Curry: In fact, that's
actually a good observation. The
1:52:54
fact that they're not being
called white supremacist and
1:52:57
Nazis should give you a clue.
Three W's women wash away
1:53:01
racism. What a
1:53:03
Unknown: surprise victory is
widely seen as a protest vote
1:53:05
against Prime Minister Mark
roots government and some of his
1:53:08
policies including a drone to
slash nitrogen emissions, which
1:53:12
may say, which many say will
imperil farming operations? Hey,
1:53:16
a small Pro Farmer. Farmers
Party has swept provincial
1:53:20
elections in the Netherlands to
become the biggest in the Senate
1:53:24
by channeling wide
dissatisfaction with the Dutch
1:53:26
government and a sharp challenge
to Prime Minister Mark roots
1:53:30
administration. This is good to
see as it occurred. Aren't you
1:53:33
happy to see this this is
something finally something
1:53:37
somewhere there's a positive
note somewhere that people are
1:53:40
starting to jump out take
control back of their
1:53:43
governments. The result put the
party the farmers Citizens
1:53:46
Movement, which has fewer than
11,000 members, according to its
1:53:49
website, on track to become a
major player in a government
1:53:52
body that approves or rejects
legislation that comes out of
1:53:55
the House of Representatives.
Some Dutch voters said they
1:53:58
viewed the party success as a
victory against the country's
1:54:01
elites as well as the
government. They said it just
1:54:04
like their Brexit.
1:54:07
Adam Curry: So I hope Jimmy
hears this. We appreciate what
1:54:09
you do, man, but you got it all
wrong on this one. And you
1:54:13
should never trust the New York
Times.
1:54:16
John C Dvorak: Yeah, yeah, I
guess going to the New York
1:54:19
Times to get the confirmation is
like the world's worst thing to
1:54:22
do. Real this particular moment.
1:54:25
Adam Curry: Here's another one
and just we'll stick with big ag
1:54:28
or Big Pharma and this gets all
chemicals. This is another one
1:54:31
of these. It used to be Denmark
but oh no. We've been doing the
1:54:34
show long enough. We remember it
used to be Denmark and now it is
1:54:37
Finland and that's
1:54:38
Unknown: another reason to be
happy in Helsinki. For the sixth
1:54:41
year running. Finland has topped
the World Happiness Report. The
1:54:45
UN sponsored index that measures
GDP per capita social support,
1:54:49
life expectancy, generosity and
corruption. According to your
1:54:53
Wait, what
1:54:54
John C Dvorak: did she say six
years running?
1:54:57
Adam Curry: That's what she
said. I don't remember it being
1:54:59
six.
1:54:59
John C Dvorak: It used to be No,
that's bullcrap. We had Denmark
1:55:01
was last year I don't and the
year before. Let me see. This
1:55:08
was a must be competitive
happiness.
1:55:11
Adam Curry: No, this poor does.
This is this is the one I think
1:55:14
this is the one I'm looking at
when's the last time we had the
1:55:19
Happiness Index? The last time
it was 2014. No, I that's the
1:55:28
last time we reported on it at
least. Anyway, we'll continue
1:55:33
Unknown: well, it's life
expectancy, generosity and
1:55:36
corruption. According to the
study, Finns, strong feelings of
1:55:40
communal support and mutual
trust, help them navigate
1:55:43
difficulties like the COVID 19
pandemic as well as liberty to
1:55:47
make their own choices and faith
in their governments. Minimal
1:55:50
suspicion of government
corruption. All
1:55:53
Adam Curry: right. So happy in
Helsinki, why do you think
1:55:55
they're all happy in Helsinki?
Well, we also happen to have the
1:56:00
antidepressant consumption
index, and Finland doubled the
1:56:07
amount of people per capita,
what is the what is the actual
1:56:12
number here? What is the number
here? Oh, I'm sorry, the DD D
1:56:20
the Define daily dose? What is
this as new. So Finland, in the
1:56:27
number one country of with the
most antidepressants daily dose,
1:56:31
I guess the defined daily dose
is Iceland. They went from 71 to
1:56:36
153. Sweden went from 45 to 105.
Norway from for only a small
1:56:43
increase for Norway, France, a
small increase, but Finland more
1:56:47
than doubled. 36 Define daily
doses to 82. And so if you're
1:56:55
wondering why they're also happy
and trust their government,
1:56:58
there's your answer. And, and
the Netherlands who always show
1:57:03
up on the list, they actually
didn't they went from 31 to 47.
1:57:07
But I would say look for Iceland
to be the happiest country next
1:57:10
year. And maybe Portugal who
went from 32 defined daily dose
1:57:15
to 131 They're drugging you
people Yes, that's why you're
1:57:20
happy. Of course happy in
Helsinki.
1:57:25
John C Dvorak: Well, Brave New
World. Yeah,
1:57:27
Adam Curry: yes. So um, right
out of Huxley, Soma, right on
1:57:30
Soma. Sad, but Soma. I'll just
stay on Big Pharma because
1:57:37
there's another change coming
up. I love this. This is, you
1:57:40
know, if we haven't given big
pharma Enough, enough of our
1:57:44
minds, our bodies our health.
Let's add this to them, shall
1:57:50
we?
1:57:50
Unknown: The Biden
administration announced plans
1:57:52
today to overhaul the network
that's run the nation's organ
1:57:55
transplant system for nearly
four decades. The United Network
1:57:59
for Organ Sharing, known as
Eunos, has faced criticism for
1:58:03
inadequately managing the
process. In 2022, doctors
1:58:07
performed more than 42,000
transplants in the US. But there
1:58:11
are still 104,234 men, women and
children currently on the organ
1:58:18
transplant waitlist. And every
10 minutes another person is
1:58:21
added to that list. 17 people
die every day waiting for an
1:58:26
organ transplant. The proposal
would open up a competitive
1:58:30
bidding process for other
organizations to possibly take
1:58:33
over the network with a goal of
shortening wait times and saving
1:58:37
lives
1:58:37
Adam Curry: and creating a great
marketplace.
1:58:40
John C Dvorak: I think they
should just give it to the turn
1:58:42
that over to the Chinese.
1:58:43
Adam Curry: Yeah, they know how
to do it. This is totally what
1:58:46
this is this, you know, be
careful. You're gonna hear this
1:58:50
this story that John and I grew
up with, even though we're
1:58:54
separated by a couple of years.
So I heard about this guy. And
1:58:58
he met a girl while he was on a
business trip, and then he woke
1:59:02
up the next morning in a bathtub
filled with ice and on the
1:59:05
mirror with lipstick and said,
we've taken your kidneys.
1:59:10
John C Dvorak: Yeah, it's not a
time to get to the hospital. You
1:59:15
know that? Oregon staffed not to
go back to some of the older
1:59:20
older shows, but I'll bring up
the details of this one later.
1:59:23
But during the mania for
vasectomies in the 1920s there
1:59:28
was a lot of talk about
transplanting balls, test test
1:59:35
and because you do get added
virility so they would take they
1:59:40
would take gonads from one guy
who's supposed to maybe dead and
1:59:46
then put them in another so you
have like four balls. And at one
1:59:50
point there was a problem with
people doing exactly having that
1:59:54
exact same thing happened with
with the missing kidney, where
1:59:58
they get knocked out in a new
You are an ally and they would
2:00:01
have their balls stolen. Wow.
Ball theft ball theft. I got
2:00:07
some stories to tell when I get
to get the details mail write it
2:00:09
up and then we can talk about it
some other time to
2:00:11
Adam Curry: put it in the
newsletter. It sounds like a
2:00:13
groovy one for everyone to be
grossed out by
2:00:15
John C Dvorak: people's
attempts. Donations will be
2:00:17
skyrocketing Marty
2:00:19
Adam Curry: itching my stomach
feels weird. I don't know if I
2:00:21
like this topic at all. Instead
good instead. Let's go to the
2:00:25
Orange Man. The stuff that
actually obsessed our American
2:00:28
news media all we
2:00:29
Unknown: can Manhattan district
attorney investigating Donald
2:00:32
Trump's hush money payments to
porn star stormy Daniels told
2:00:35
the grand jury hearing the case
to stand down for today. Sources
2:00:40
tell ABC News John's were
informed at least one additional
2:00:43
witness may be called to testify
before they decide whether to
2:00:47
indict the former President
Trump declared over the weekend
2:00:51
that he would be arrested on
Tuesday. That obviously did not
2:00:54
happen, obviously. But New York
is still bracing for protests
2:00:57
after Trump called for his
supporters to turn out. A few
2:01:00
people so far seem to be heeding
his call. Former Vice President
2:01:05
Mike Pence, who saw firsthand
what happened when Trump called
2:01:08
for protests. January sixth said
people should not protest this
2:01:13
time. I would discourage
Americans
2:01:15
from engaging in protests, if in
fact, the former president is
2:01:19
indicted.
2:01:20
Adam Curry: Wow, man, it's like
Did we not say this was a hoax?
2:01:24
This was Lane's was not going to
happen. I'm pretty sure we said
2:01:28
that. Yeah. Last show. Yeah.
It's like don't don't don't
2:01:32
we're not buying it. Although I
do like what Newsweek did, who
2:01:36
owns Newsweek, they say they
used to be the spook
2:01:38
publication. I'm
2:01:39
John C Dvorak: independent
group. That's a small, small
2:01:42
publisher. I'm not sure anymore.
I Bloomberg owned it for a
2:01:45
while.
2:01:46
Adam Curry: Trump supporters
planned bank run to protest his
2:01:49
arrest and have that's, that's a
great setup. That's a great
2:01:53
setup. If there's a bank run
just Oh, I got the info for you.
2:01:56
If there's a bank run, run, just
blame Trump dropped at it. I got
2:02:01
the info on the law about bank
runs for Yeah,
2:02:04
John C Dvorak: I found out about
it, too. What did you get? That
2:02:07
in 20, there was actually
something of a law that was
2:02:10
repealed in 2012. For free
speech purposes. It used to
2:02:14
exist, know where I got it from
when I was a kid, I guess I knew
2:02:17
about this law. But it was taken
care of removed from service in
2:02:22
2012. It's there is no law.
2:02:25
Adam Curry: Well, Section nine a
two of the Securities Exchange
2:02:29
Act prohibits any person from
directly or indirectly using any
2:02:34
means of interstate commerce or
communication to make false
2:02:37
statements or omit a material
fact that could affect the value
2:02:41
of securities with the intent to
deceive or manipulate the
2:02:44
market. This applies to a wide
range of securities, including
2:02:47
stocks, bonds, other
investments, also banks, but you
2:02:52
have to they have to prove that
you profited from it. Otherwise,
2:02:56
it doesn't really count. Yeah.
Yeah.
2:03:01
John C Dvorak: Well, on the
topic of Trump, yes, I have. No,
2:03:04
I mean, this is again, the
reason I get NTD every couple of
2:03:07
weeks, I'll do this. Do you know
anything about Trump's 10 Point
2:03:10
Plan? And agenda 45, or whatever
it is? 47 No, 47.
2:03:15
Adam Curry: He hasn't weighed
and I think the 10 point plan
2:03:18
sounds familiar, but I have
certainly not heard a clip or
2:03:22
anything about it.
2:03:23
John C Dvorak: Here's a clip,
former
2:03:24
Unknown: President Trump
revealed his plan to dismantle
2:03:27
what he calls the deep state
yesterday as part of his agenda
2:03:30
47 for 2024 Meanwhile,
demonstrators both in support of
2:03:35
and against him took to the
streets and cities Jeremy
2:03:38
Sandberg has more on Trump's 10
Point Plan.
2:03:41
Adam Curry: Oh, of course, we
didn't hear that. That will be
2:03:45
crazy. Before we play your
second clip. Here's what we did
2:03:49
here
2:03:49
Unknown: during that possible
perp walk and describe the
2:03:52
potential situation as a fun
experience, Joe,
2:03:55
so that might be fun in front of
the cameras for him. But I think
2:03:58
it's different when you get in
there. And you're having I
2:04:01
could, you know, we don't know
but having your fingerprint
2:04:05
taken and picture taken. We
2:04:07
call that mica, right. That's
called whistling past the
2:04:10
graveyard. He's not looking
forward to any of it. He's
2:04:13
horrified. He's just talking
big. The walls are closing in.
2:04:18
Adam Curry: No walls are closing
the walls.
2:04:24
John C Dvorak: The walls have
been closing in since 2016 2015.
2:04:29
Adam Curry: The walls are
closing in again.
2:04:31
John C Dvorak: We have so many
mega clips of walls closing in
2:04:36
by these douche bags. Guys do
worse. I don't understand why
2:04:40
he's still on the air. But okay,
let's go to Butch Trump's 10
2:04:44
Point Plan Part Two.
2:04:45
Unknown: They're all sick. And
it's fake news
2:04:48
Trump vowed to aggressively
removed rogue bureaucrats uproot
2:04:51
corrupt actors in the national
security sector and rework FISA
2:04:55
courts if elected in 2024. He
plans to create a Truth and
2:04:58
Reconciliation Commission
2:05:00
to declassify and publish all
documents on Deep State spying,
2:05:04
censorship and corruption,
2:05:06
he's promising to crack down on
government leakers, that he says
2:05:09
collude with media to create
false narratives and says he
2:05:12
will ask Congress to create an
independent auditing system to
2:05:15
monitor intelligence agencies to
make sure they're not running
2:05:18
disinformation campaigns are
spying on citizens. He's also
2:05:22
proposing term limits for
members of Congress.
2:05:24
This is how I will shatter the
deep state and restore
2:05:28
government that is controlled by
the people and for the people.
2:05:37
Reactions to Trump's possible
upcoming indictments were mixed
2:05:40
in New York on Tuesday. Both
supporters and adversaries were
2:05:46
on the streets making their
stance known proponents in other
2:05:49
parts of the country like
Alabama and Florida said they
2:05:52
were not protesting but rallying
in support of Trump. Instead,
2:05:55
we're not going to just lay out
lay it lay down and pretend that
2:05:59
this is normal or that this is
right. It's not right.
2:06:02
They've spent millions of US tax
dollars coming after him instead
2:06:06
of working with him to help our
country. And I think it's
2:06:09
ridiculous, but like I said,
it's benefiting Trump it along.
2:06:13
I'd love our
2:06:13
Adam Curry: governor. But
Trump's our man. Did you hear
2:06:18
about Chris Rock?
2:06:20
John C Dvorak: No. What about
Chris Rock?
2:06:21
Adam Curry: I guess he did his
latest stand up in DC and a lot
2:06:26
of the muckety mucks were there,
including Nancy Pelosi. And
2:06:31
Chris Rock said, You're Are you
really gonna use? Are you effing
2:06:34
stupid? You're gonna arrest
Trump. You want to make him you
2:06:37
want to make them more popular?
Do you not understand how stupid
2:06:40
you are? Yes, yeah, he's right.
The M five M man. I got two
2:06:51
clips show just need to play one
is since we're talking Trumpian
2:06:54
stuff. Sam Harris. Teach. How
did Sam Harris get popular? He's
2:07:02
such a dick.
2:07:04
John C Dvorak: Have you ever
seen him?
2:07:06
Adam Curry: Why doesn't his
podcast is very successful? Or
2:07:08
was I don't know. I don't know
if it's still successful.
2:07:10
John C Dvorak: Ever seen it? I
don't watch him. I never who
2:07:13
never heard of him before he
became somehow popular. I don't
2:07:17
know. What did he do before? I
don't know. But he's he's very
2:07:21
good at what you're doing to
clips.
2:07:23
Adam Curry: He listened to his
his latest.
2:07:26
Unknown: There's we're swimming
in a sea of misinformation where
2:07:28
you've got people who are moving
the opinions of millions of
2:07:33
others? Who should who should
not have an opinion.
2:07:38
Adam Curry: That's us. We should
not we should not have an
2:07:41
opinion
2:07:42
Unknown: on these topics. Like
there's no, there is no scenario
2:07:46
in which you should be getting
your opinion about vaccine
2:07:49
safety or, or climate change or
the war in Ukraine, or anything
2:07:55
else that we might want to talk
about from anyone. Candace
2:07:59
Owens, from Candace Owens,
right. He's just like, like,
2:08:02
like she, she's not a relevant
expert on any of those topics.
2:08:07
And what's more, she doesn't
seem to care. Right. And he's
2:08:10
living in a culture, right, that
has had that has amplified that
2:08:15
not Karen into a business model
and an effective business model,
2:08:19
right. So it's just great. And
that is something very Trumpian
2:08:22
about all that.
2:08:23
Adam Curry: Oh, there it is very
Trumpian. Well, okay.
2:08:25
John C Dvorak: All right. So it
makes him someone you should be
2:08:28
listening to by his own
standards.
2:08:30
Adam Curry: You remember what
the last time we played Sam
2:08:32
Harris what he was saying,
right? No, oh, yeah, you do you
2:08:37
do.
2:08:37
John C Dvorak: Sam Harris, born
in 67 was an American
2:08:39
philosopher, neuroscientist.
Okay. Author and podcast host.
2:08:46
Yeah, his work touches on a
range of topics including
2:08:48
nationality, religion, ethics.
What is he got to do with any of
2:08:51
this? I don't know. Harris came
to prominence for his criticism
2:08:55
of religion and Islam in
particular, and is known as one
2:08:58
of the four horsemen of the new
Atheism, along with Richard
2:09:01
Dawkins, Christopher Hitchens,
and Daniel Dennett. All of them,
2:09:06
most of them, in fact,
represented by John Brockman. My
2:09:09
agent, seriously, oh, that's the
end of phase one that pin Martha
2:09:18
over new. Okay, so he's a dream
as atheist. And so he's got cred
2:09:24
because of that.
2:09:25
Adam Curry: I think this is this
is when we first introduced him
2:09:28
on the show was when he said
this. Yeah,
2:09:31
Unknown: honestly, that thus far
is the most harmful aspect of
2:09:35
his presidency. It's just, it's
the complete ruination of any
2:09:41
standard of honesty in in
political discourse. And it's,
2:09:45
it's astonishing to me it's I
have not yet accepted that this
2:09:51
is even possible, much less
actual. So I mean, I'm, I don't
2:09:55
think I'm alone, but I'm
continually having the
2:09:58
bewildering experience that I
just couldn't not believe this
2:10:01
person is president. And it
really is
2:10:04
Adam Curry: that what he was the
one that said it was, gosh, I
2:10:06
wish I had the right clip. He
said, No, it's okay to lie. If
2:10:11
it's about Trump, it's okay to
lie about
2:10:13
Unknown: Hunter Biden at that
point Hunter Biden literally
2:10:15
could have had had
2:10:16
Adam Curry: memory. He said,
It's okay. We it's okay to lie
2:10:18
about stuff as long as it's
getting rid of I don't want to
2:10:20
play it as long as it's getting
rid of Trump. Remember, that?
2:10:24
was a big
2:10:24
John C Dvorak: deal. Remember it
but believe me, you
2:10:26
Adam Curry: believe me? Okay, so
let's go to the approved medium.
2:10:31
And it's finally out. Finally we
have her show. Inside is what's
2:10:35
called inside with Jen Psaki. As
we know, she was the spokes hole
2:10:41
for but it gave her a day
actually gave her a show. They
2:10:44
gave her a show they gave her
show caught it make it yep, God
2:10:47
gave her show. And let me give
you my professional opinion.
2:10:50
Since you and I have been in our
past we've executive producer
2:10:55
and we've produced many, many
mainstream products, including
2:10:59
television, and I would say
first of all her hair is is
2:11:05
disastrous. I don't know I don't
know who did her hair. It's it's
2:11:09
so
2:11:09
John C Dvorak: we're doing our
producer talk. I have to get I
2:11:12
gotta get an image where am I
gonna get
2:11:13
Adam Curry: this? It's just go
to inside with GIMP Saki and
2:11:16
make sure you get the one where
she's wearing all white. A
2:11:20
mistake as a news person. What
are you an angel? So her
2:11:25
clothing is good. His Heffley do
not want to know why all white
2:11:28
is is wrong.
2:11:30
John C Dvorak: And Daisy was
actually illegal. It was
2:11:32
illegal. Illegal because it blew
up.
2:11:36
Adam Curry: That's right. It
blew up the tubes. But it's not
2:11:38
a good look. The hair is a
disaster. I'm sorry, the hair is
2:11:44
just a disaster. And any woman
who looks at her hair, at least
2:11:49
the clip that I've seen it will
admit it's a disaster because it
2:11:53
looks like their own found a
website looks like the rats are
2:11:55
eating at it. And she she can't
talk. Oh, this
2:11:58
John C Dvorak: is not good. This
is white is no good. Of course
2:12:02
not. Do you see your hair? It
looks like a nurse or something
2:12:05
she doesn't look or somebody
should be locked up. She looks
2:12:08
like a mental patient.
2:12:10
Adam Curry: Yes, yes. You're
right. It looks like a straight
2:12:13
jacket. Yeah. And she can't
read.
2:12:17
Unknown: But the reason Donald
Trump's looming.
2:12:21
Adam Curry: She can't even do it
right away.
2:12:23
Unknown: But the recent news of
Donald Trump's Trump's looming
2:12:26
indictment we've seen Trump's
allies attack prosecutors in all
2:12:30
sorts of ways. But one attack in
particular stood out to me and
2:12:34
she's
2:12:34
Adam Curry: moving her arms
around
2:12:36
John C Dvorak: like she's told
no, she's she's trying to fly
2:12:38
but she's trying to do in the
elbow flap. Yes,
2:12:41
Adam Curry: she's trying to
direct planes to the gate or
2:12:44
something. It's called on
2:12:45
Unknown: Thursday, Boris Epstein
said that woke radical DA is in
2:12:49
New York and Atlanta are to
blame for Trump's legal
2:12:51
problems. Yes, you heard that
correctly. Woke DA is are to
2:12:55
blame here.
2:12:56
Adam Curry: This is the worst
prompter read ever. She can't do
2:12:59
it. This is a mistake. They blew
it. She's worse than Joy read.
2:13:04
She cannot read read.
2:13:07
John C Dvorak: Better than this.
Yeah. So
2:13:09
Unknown: now because it seems
that blaming woke politics for
2:13:11
problems, big and small, has
become a one size fits all
2:13:15
response for Republicans lately.
Take for example, the news this
2:13:19
past week of the collapse of
Silicon Valley Bank, the largest
2:13:22
bank failure since the 2008.
Financial crisis. It was a big
2:13:25
deal. And it's a complicated
issue, one that we could
2:13:28
probably devote an entire show
to, but instead for some
2:13:32
Republicans the real problem had
no connection at all to any
2:13:35
economic policies at all.
2:13:39
John C Dvorak: Oh, did she say
at all?
2:13:42
Adam Curry: At all, this is
horrible that the writing is
2:13:44
bad. She can't read the sentence
she can get better. She can get
2:13:47
better with the prompter. But
her she was the the schoolmarm
2:13:54
she was that I don't have to do
that to you give her an
2:13:56
interview show do anything but
this reading the prompter is non
2:14:01
welded. Of course, we're
executives we know what we're
2:14:03
talking about. No one ever asked
us for our opinion.
2:14:09
John C Dvorak: An interview show
would have been ideal. Where she
2:14:11
can
2:14:12
Adam Curry: she can she can. I
think she's very clear.
2:14:16
John C Dvorak: She's got the
nasty kind of style that's
2:14:18
perfect for an interview.
2:14:19
Adam Curry: And with that you
tie your hair back. That red
2:14:23
hair, you tie it the red hair is
cool, but you got to tie it
2:14:26
back. Don't try to be glamorous
with your What are you feminine
2:14:30
hygiene product commercial?
2:14:32
John C Dvorak: You know I'm
looking at this picture. If she
2:14:34
didn't have a 40 inch waist.
Maybe this white thing would
2:14:38
look
2:14:38
Adam Curry: how okay, you went
there you go I'm happily
2:14:42
married. I'm not gonna go there.
I won't say stuff like that.
2:14:44
This is not what you say to any
woman. Even if ever ever ever
2:14:49
ever
2:14:49
John C Dvorak: get this airy
comes. That would be the end for
2:14:52
you.
2:14:53
Adam Curry: Yeah. Oh, it done.
2:14:53
John C Dvorak: You don't do
that. Like come on. You know I'm
2:14:55
right.
2:14:56
Adam Curry: Of course you are on
the money. The creative work
2:14:59
Consulting Group is all He's
available. We're open 24/7 Do
2:15:02
they call us? No? Who did Mika
and Joe produces? It's horrible.
2:15:09
Bush he
2:15:09
John C Dvorak: has to be seen,
in my opinion. If you look over
2:15:13
the landscape of MSNBC, which is
struggling, yeah, she has to be
2:15:18
seen as when she came in, she
had to be seen as a threat to a
2:15:22
number of hosts. Oh,
2:15:26
Adam Curry: good point. So
someone's
2:15:28
John C Dvorak: up to fail.
sabotage her.
2:15:30
Adam Curry: Yep. Yeah, you are
2:15:32
John C Dvorak: looking at you.
You will read his great in
2:15:35
white. You look
2:15:36
Adam Curry: so slim that your
hair is dynamite. Oh, yeah. Oh,
2:15:42
it's
2:15:43
John C Dvorak: really a flop it
out a little more. White, less.
2:15:46
Yeah, the part
2:15:47
Adam Curry: is all over the
place. I got my hair guy. And
2:15:49
you know me and
2:15:51
John C Dvorak: I can't see the
pictures. I have the part. But
2:15:53
if the part is wandering all
over the place, that means no
2:15:56
effort was put into it. So no,
she's been sabotaged. Yes, it
2:16:01
looks
2:16:01
Adam Curry: a bit like Roseanne
Roseanna. Dan, she's got the
2:16:03
frizzy look, you know, like
Monica on friends. This is bad.
2:16:09
John C Dvorak: Ollie, I know
agenda. Do you hear this sort of
2:16:11
catty commentary, but we're also
correct. Y'all were totally
2:16:16
right. Mister.
2:16:18
Adam Curry: Did we have ratings
for the show yet? Let me see.
2:16:22
John C Dvorak: Asterisk
2:16:23
Adam Curry: ratings inside with
Jen. Psaki is a stupid name to I
2:16:30
don't I don't like the knee.
It's like she's not giving us
2:16:32
any inside information. Oh,
Premier ratings she NAB 1.1
2:16:37
million viewers. I'll give her
that.
2:16:39
John C Dvorak: That's a lot for
that hour for that work. Because
2:16:43
curiosity. Let's see how long
that lasts.
2:16:46
Adam Curry: Let me see what the
demo was. Like to see what to
2:16:49
fall off was. It airs Sunday
night. 9am. Oh, so it airs on
2:16:55
the Oh, really? They've put this
morning and Sunday morning show?
2:16:59
Well, that's when people are
watching. That's a great spot.
2:17:02
John C Dvorak: She naps but just
competition at that hour. Okay,
2:17:04
but listen to this.
2:17:06
Adam Curry: The number one spot
in the key demographic
2:17:08
2550 437,000 viewers. You're not
going What can you That's 137
2:17:14
that's 137 CPMs? No, one day
losing money on her.
2:17:20
John C Dvorak: Yeah, yeah, to
have more numbers at that group.
2:17:22
And so the
2:17:23
Adam Curry: the premier marks a
strong start for the former
2:17:25
White House press secretary
hosted show with the previous
2:17:28
Sunday 9am slot that brought in
573,000 viewers. So she debuted
2:17:34
Well, debuted. Well, we'll see.
I think I agree. I think people
2:17:40
were tuning in for the old show.
That's why there was my old
2:17:44
show.
2:17:46
John C Dvorak: Huh? Well, she
will carry it. We'll see if she
2:17:49
does. She's dead. If they're
trying to sabotage her right off
2:17:52
the bat. She hasn't got a prayer
the way it works now.
2:17:57
Adam Curry: Ready kilowatt in
the troll room says its viewers
2:18:00
who passed out drunk watching
Saturday Night Live. Yeah, okay.
2:18:06
Good one. Oh, my goodness. Yeah.
But I'm just we know this stuff.
2:18:12
We know this stuff. This is not
good.
2:18:14
John C Dvorak: So the next thing
starts happening is they bring
2:18:17
in some consultants. Oh, there
we go. Moving her hours around.
2:18:21
If their hours change one times
over. It's over. We think we
2:18:27
should move you to the 11
o'clock spot.
2:18:30
Adam Curry: You know, in
Hollywood and in in TV land.
2:18:32
It's always the second weekend
that counts. So you know, if you
2:18:37
have friends in Hollywood, and
of course we do. Use Hey,
2:18:41
congratulate your new movie. I'm
gonna go see it. Oh, no, no, go
2:18:43
the second weekend, second
weekend because I never want the
2:18:45
drop off. To always ask them the
friends and family go the second
2:18:50
weekend. That's the same for
television premiere. So the
2:18:54
second tune in tune in don't
tune in next weekend. By the
2:19:00
way, we have as many people
listening to this podcast as she
2:19:03
has watching her and she's
making millions Hello. Yeah. I
2:19:10
think she got Asians man. I want
to say she did eight. Honestly
2:19:13
she got 8 million a year for
this
2:19:15
John C Dvorak: show. Boy they
will him as NBC he's got their
2:19:18
heads up.
2:19:19
Adam Curry: They got money
though. I got money.
2:19:22
John C Dvorak: Money. Comcast
money.
2:19:24
Adam Curry: That's right. Big
Comcast money. Oh, good on her.
2:19:29
But I'm telling you some
mistake. Mistake. Mistake
2:19:32
mistake.
2:19:36
John C Dvorak: He or she
probably also besides being
2:19:37
sabotaged. I can't see her being
friendly to the crew.
2:19:43
Adam Curry: Oh, you're so right.
And that especially in cable.
2:19:45
That's key.
2:19:47
John C Dvorak: Oh, yeah. Because
they don't get paid enough.
2:19:48
Anyway,
2:19:49
Adam Curry: the and they'll be
the ones that is going like oh,
2:19:51
your hair looks great. I'm
looking at right here on my
2:19:53
monitor. It looks directly
2:19:57
John C Dvorak: with the thumbs
up. Okay, so
2:20:02
Adam Curry: That's exactly I
used to. If they ever made a
2:20:05
good closeup of me we had two
camera people Warren and
2:20:08
Celeste. They both passed away.
Sadly, they were older than me.
2:20:10
But they they passed away kind
of early, I felt I had a concept
2:20:14
called curry cache. And if they
would make me look really good
2:20:17
with a shot or close up, I walk
right after the segment of walk
2:20:20
right up, put $5 on top of that,
on top of their lens carry cash.
2:20:24
Wow, I was idea it was well
known. Curry cash was a thing.
2:20:30
John C Dvorak: Nowadays, you'd
have to be 100. Yeah, back in
2:20:33
Adam Curry: the day, back in the
day. Ah, okay. So there's a
2:20:38
couple of things going on around
the world. And I would like to
2:20:42
highlight the first one which is
France. This is the while this
2:20:45
report explains what I believe
in Paris
2:20:47
Unknown: police have banned
protests opposite their
2:20:50
country's parliament that comes
following unrest triggered by
2:20:53
the government imposing a
pension reform and bypassing a
2:20:57
vote on the issue. While that
protest ballot stretches from
2:21:00
class Illa Concord and
surroundings to parts of the SRA
2:21:03
zilis. A. opposition MPs have
meanwhile, found two motions of
2:21:07
no confidence set to be debated
in parliament on Monday they're
2:21:12
hoping to garner enough support
to topple the cabinet and repeal
2:21:16
the law to raise the retirement
age from 62 to 64
2:21:23
Adam Curry: So this is the
French the don't mess around.
2:21:27
And of course, the rest of the
world is saying well what's up
2:21:30
with that you stupid frogs we're
at 67 already are that yeah, are
2:21:36
they Yeah 67 I think now most of
the world is 6567 But of course
2:21:40
this is there will be no money
for retirement I'm sure there'll
2:21:45
be zero money leftover when I
get there. And people are going
2:21:48
to take into the streets of
friendship they don't stand for
2:21:51
this crap they don't like it now
politically they have not been
2:21:54
able to do what needs to be done
because there is a provision in
2:21:58
the in French law that you can
bypass a parliamentary vote and
2:22:04
they can try and stop that is
kind of like a veto from the
2:22:07
people. The first one failed I
think the second one if it has
2:22:11
not already will fail as well.
However, the French are quite
2:22:15
well known for not putting up
with politicians and I'm going
2:22:18
to play this little clip because
even though they cannot protest
2:22:21
outside of government, they are
protesting in quite some maths
2:22:26
and I will play this see if you
can hear what they're saying
2:22:29
here
2:22:36
there we go. Louie says Louie
says hola de copy take my call
2:22:42
my call on phone which means
Louis 16th Louis 16th We
2:22:49
capitated him McCrone, McCrone,
it could happen again. I love to
2:22:57
just say that just
2:22:58
John C Dvorak: bring out the
guillotine. Yes,
2:23:00
Adam Curry: they're just saying
it. Just saying it now. You
2:23:03
think that would really be at
the front? It's possible.
2:23:06
John C Dvorak: Like you never
know what to I mean? Yeah, I
2:23:08
know. They leave it in your mind
that it is always possible. You
2:23:12
don't want to mess around.
You're a little nutty.
2:23:15
Adam Curry: They are oh, hey,
they got they got bigger
2:23:19
companies than the rest of the
world. People just going along
2:23:23
with it.
2:23:25
John C Dvorak: Would that go
along with you hear
2:23:26
Adam Curry: about Israel? Oh,
man. Oh, second. This was where
2:23:33
to get this from this might have
been Deutsche Bella.
2:23:36
Unknown: Well, Israel's former
spy master is speaking out
2:23:38
against the government's plans
to overhaul the country's legal
2:23:41
system. Journalist IRS Mackler
is covering this for us in
2:23:45
Jerusalem. So Eris, what did the
ex spy master? So?
2:23:48
Yes, he emerged from the shadows
and he wasn't comfortable. But
2:23:52
he said he was doing that in
order to issue a stark warning,
2:23:55
these legal changes he says, I
like nothing Israel has ever
2:23:59
seen before. It's a judicial
coup which will lead Israel into
2:24:03
a dictatorship. Once he said
that he went on to say that what
2:24:07
he fears is that will also bring
about the collapse of Israel's
2:24:10
defense institution. That's the
Shin Bet that he headed the
2:24:14
Mossad, even Israel's military,
because once you change the
2:24:19
system, once it's a
dictatorship, then he fears that
2:24:22
people simply want to won't
defend it in the same way
2:24:25
because it's not the same flag,
the flag of a dictatorship and
2:24:29
or a democracy.
2:24:31
Adam Curry: So we'd love to hear
more from now I'm
2:24:34
John C Dvorak: gonna have this
been going on for a while.
2:24:36
There's been a lot of protests
over it, which is also the
2:24:39
Netanyahu wants to change some
aspect. I don't know the details
2:24:44
of the judicial system, but
mostly mostly the judges. He
2:24:49
wants to get rid of a bunch of
Supreme Court judges and move
2:24:52
guys around. And everyone's bent
out of shape about this. Now, I
2:24:55
don't know why I would like to
somebody's got to give us a
2:24:58
briefing on this because we
don't know Have the we don't
2:25:02
we're not getting the reports we
need.
2:25:04
Adam Curry: And while we're
while we're on that topic,
2:25:06
there's another thing that's
been going on, which many of our
2:25:09
producers have reached out to us
about. I'm pretty sure neither
2:25:12
of us understand it just yet. I
do have a clip now this is about
2:25:17
what's going on with the
Canadian CIA the CSIS how
2:25:22
they've been leaking certain
information and the general
2:25:27
thinking is that Mk. Trudeau
will not survive this. And I do
2:25:35
have a clip here
2:25:36
Unknown: in February 2021,
Michael kovrig and Michael
2:25:39
spavor had been detained in a
Chinese prison for nearly 800
2:25:43
days. But while they languished
away, Ontario Liberal MP Han
2:25:47
Dong allegedly advised a top
Chinese diplomat to hold off on
2:25:51
immediately freeing them to
independent national security
2:25:54
sources have told global news
that Dawn spoke with China's
2:25:58
consular general instinct
2:25:59
Adam Curry: that was the that
was the Huawei lady who they who
2:26:03
they had locked up that's what
that's about the Huawei error
2:26:06
they
2:26:06
John C Dvorak: had her and how
she wasn't lost forever
2:26:08
Adam Curry: house arrest house
arrest news
2:26:10
Unknown: that Don spoke with
China's Consulate General in
2:26:13
Toronto Han Tao and suggested to
him that a Beijing released the
2:26:17
two Michaels, then federal
conservatives would benefit. How
2:26:21
exactly is not clear, Dong
allegedly initiated the
2:26:25
discussion with the Consul
General, where he also allegedly
2:26:28
recommended that Beijing offers
some show of progress with the
2:26:31
two Michaels cases to help
benefit the liberals, according
2:26:35
to the two sources, shown
confirmed global news that the
2:26:38
conversation took place, but he
denied he initiated the
2:26:41
discussion and says that he
advocated for the two Michaels
2:26:44
to be set free. At every
opportunity before they returned
2:26:48
home. I adamantly demanded their
release to Canada without delays
2:26:51
at dawn. Any suggestions
otherwise are false and our
2:26:55
attempts to mislead you, your
readers and slander me? The two
2:26:59
Michaels had been jailed in
apparent retribution for
2:27:02
Canada's detention of Huawei
executive Mung Wong Jo, but at
2:27:05
the time of dongs conversation
with the Chinese diplomat, the
2:27:09
prime minister had publicly been
calling for their release. This
2:27:12
is an issue that is a top
priority to his office says the
2:27:15
Prime Minister only learned of
the conversation with the
2:27:17
Chinese envoy after Dong told
PMO but Dong only informed the
2:27:22
Prime Minister's team after
global news reached out for
2:27:24
comment as a Chinese Canadian, I
am so proud. A national security
2:27:29
official told global news that
by the time the alleged
2:27:31
conversation in February 2021
took place, CSIS had already
2:27:36
classified Dong as a close
friend of the consulate based on
2:27:39
his history of calls, but they
had also considered if Don was
2:27:42
acting as a back channel
interlocutor between the
2:27:45
Canadian and Chinese
governments. The PMO denied that
2:27:49
theory saying At no time was Mr.
Dong ever used as a back
2:27:52
channel. Global News has not
been able to independently
2:27:55
verify what was said in the
communication between Dong and
2:27:58
the Consul General. We reached
out to CSIS for comment on the
2:28:01
Dong conversation. A
spokesperson for the agency said
2:28:04
they can neither confirm nor
deny the authenticity of the
2:28:07
information.
2:28:08
Adam Curry: Man Do you
understand any of this?
2:28:11
John C Dvorak: No, but it brings
me to some clips of maybe I
2:28:13
don't know if this would help at
all but about the Canada
2:28:17
election rigging involving the
Chinese
2:28:20
Adam Curry: Yeah, this is this
is connected to it somehow. Got
2:28:23
to
2:28:23
John C Dvorak: be let's go with
these clips just Canada election
2:28:26
rigging.
2:28:27
Adam Curry: election rigging
2:28:28
Unknown: as Ottawa looks into
reports China tried to interfere
2:28:32
with Canadian elections. A new
poll out tonight suggests those
2:28:36
reports have some Canadians
worried about the state of our
2:28:39
electoral system. Here's Marina
von Stackelberg
2:28:42
Justin Trudeau reelected with a
minority government in 2021. An
2:28:46
election result accepted by all
the federal party leaders
2:28:50
despite reports China tried to
interfere and sway the results
2:28:54
in the Liberals favor.
2:28:55
So there is no question that
yes, there was attempted
2:28:58
interference from Beijing into
our electoral processes. We know
2:29:02
how important it is for
Canadians to have confidence in
2:29:06
our system.
2:29:07
But according to a new poll from
Malaysia, some Canadians are
2:29:10
worried about that system of
more than 1500 polled last week.
2:29:14
71% said they feel the electoral
system is safe. But 29% said
2:29:20
they do not.
2:29:21
I would say 1015 years ago I
would not have dreamed of asking
2:29:24
the question it would sort of
just a fait accompli that we
2:29:27
trust our electoral system.
2:29:29
The poll also asked about the
last two elections. 33% believed
2:29:33
foreign interference greatly
compromises the legitimacy of
2:29:37
the results. conservative
supporters were more concerned
2:29:41
53% were worried the elections
had been compromised.
2:29:44
Adam Curry: I think Canadians of
all political backgrounds are
2:29:47
asking what has Justin Trudeau
2:29:51
Unknown: got to hide?
2:29:53
72% of all respondents want an
independent inquiry into
2:29:57
allegations of foreign
interference. Oh,
2:30:00
But trust, I think has been
blown out of the water. It's
2:30:03
tragic that we need our
electoral system to be strong
2:30:07
and to be appear to be strong.
And so the work of this
2:30:12
reporter, or any public inquiry
is going to have to be really
2:30:16
fast. We cannot go into the next
election with all of these black
2:30:20
clouds hanging over us.
2:30:22
Adam Curry: Oh, I know what this
is about. Of course. They want
2:30:25
to ban Tiktok. Makes nothing but
sense.
2:30:31
John C Dvorak: The Canadians
already banned Tik Tok. And,
2:30:34
again, I'll bring this up. I
brought it up before they ban
2:30:37
these companies, countries and
these governments are banning
2:30:41
tick tock on the official
phones. Yeah, why is tick tock
2:30:46
or Facebook or Twitter or
anything on a government phone
2:30:51
in the first place? Well, they
2:30:53
Adam Curry: need to get their
porn. Hello. Yeah. Okay. Part
2:30:56
Two.
2:30:57
Unknown: Amidst all this,
there's also concern from within
2:31:00
the Chinese Canadian community
about racism and potential
2:31:03
backlash. And as Lisa Shing
tells us, some say they've been
2:31:06
trying to warn authorities about
Beijing's interference for
2:31:10
decades.
2:31:11
After almost 30 years of
criticizing Beijing. Some Shira
2:31:15
says she's faced all kinds of
harassment from the Chinese
2:31:18
government,
2:31:19
my cell phone number, or
published online to the public
2:31:26
postings telling that I am
offering sex service.
2:31:31
Attempts the journalist says
Canadian authorities largely
2:31:35
ignored her warnings Beijing was
harassing her
2:31:37
I kept silence for a long time,
with
2:31:41
Ottawa announcing its
investigating claims China
2:31:44
meddled in Canada's last two
2:31:46
elections. One Country Two
Systems is a brief experiment
2:31:49
some vindication for those who
say their warnings have largely
2:31:53
gone unheeded
2:31:53
until now. Well, better late
than never thought you went
2:31:57
to China accuses some people in
Canada of spreading lies that is
2:32:01
interfering in Canadian
politics. While the pm defends
2:32:05
one of his own MP is accused of
being involved. Allegations
2:32:09
Justin Trudeau has suggested
have racial undertones. This
2:32:13
activist warns against focusing
on race in the search for what
2:32:17
really happened.
2:32:18
I think first thing we need to
be very sure about is that
2:32:23
racism is not being used as a
shield to deflect from the real
2:32:28
issue at hand.
2:32:29
He says that means calling a
public inquiry and creating a
2:32:33
foreign agent registry. But
there's concern that done
2:32:37
without care that could lead to
more attacks and accusations,
2:32:41
especially as anti Asian racism
is on the rise as a result of
2:32:45
the pandemic and worsening
relations between Canada and
2:32:49
China.
2:32:49
Adam Curry: Okay, here's what
I'm expecting any day now. The
2:32:52
connection between the Wuhan and
Canada Canadian researchers that
2:32:58
we know we kind of don't go back
to that but in the very
2:33:01
beginning there was a lot of I
remember this traveling back and
2:33:05
John C Dvorak: forth from Fort
Dietrich to operation in Canada
2:33:09
and then went to Alberta. Yep,
and then somehow ended up in
2:33:13
Wuhan this bullcrap.
2:33:15
Adam Curry: And then just mess
with us they say that they
2:33:18
published my iPhone OS X phone
2:33:21
John C Dvorak: you know the
other thing that's kind of
2:33:22
interesting is that this sudden
creation of this anti Chinese
2:33:25
sentiment is great and I live in
an area was like you know, we
2:33:29
got
2:33:29
Adam Curry: you go to the
Chinese market all the time you
2:33:31
go to the Tron Chinatown,
Chinese market all the time
2:33:34
John C Dvorak: is China. There's
a lot of this. I think that the
2:33:38
red, the red to come into the
CCP are the ones who instituted
2:33:42
this idea. So they can now point
the finger like what you just
2:33:45
heard in that last clip where
this as well. Oh, what a Troodos
2:33:49
stooges. Oh, this is racism,
blaming the Chinese for this.
2:33:54
Getting getting ready. There was
never any commentary about
2:33:56
racism regarding the Chinese
before. All recent that's very
2:34:01
recent
2:34:02
Adam Curry: Canadians are not
racist. That's all let's go to
2:34:05
John C Dvorak: final clip on
this maybe learn some
2:34:08
Unknown: members of the Chinese
community are quite worried
2:34:12
about people may somehow label
them as medium or agents of the
2:34:21
Chinese government. As the
investigations
2:34:23
continue. There are calls for
that work to involve
2:34:26
consultations with the Chinese
diaspora those who are after all
2:34:30
the targets of the interference
2:34:33
Adam Curry: you know, there's a
podcast also a no agenda stream.
2:34:36
The millennial media offensive
they're all over this. I think
2:34:40
they may be from Canadia
2:34:43
John C Dvorak: a good for them.
Yeah.
2:34:44
Adam Curry: So let's let's get
some details. Let's get some
2:34:46
info that we can understand
because even the terminology is
2:34:50
just foreign to us. It's
difficult. You know, when they
2:34:53
say the PMO Okay, the prime
minister's office I get that but
2:34:56
there's just a lot of words that
aren't the same and it's just it
2:35:00
It stinks. The whole thing
stinks. And, and I agree, I
2:35:02
think we're looking at something
that has to do with COVID has to
2:35:06
do with just China in general.
Something's going on.
2:35:12
John C Dvorak: This funny stuff
that I have to find kind of
2:35:15
offbeat clips. So far as Canada
is concerned, I thought this was
2:35:19
funny. This is Canada. That clip
is called Canada's scamming
2:35:23
immigrants.
2:35:24
Unknown: As Canada makes a big
push to bring in more
2:35:27
immigrants, some are sending a
warning tonight to would be
2:35:30
newcomers. Be careful who you
choose to help you through the
2:35:33
process. Chris O'Neill Yeates
introduces us to one woman now
2:35:37
out 10s of 1000s of dollars
after hiring an agent not
2:35:42
actually authorized to provide
immigration services.
2:35:46
Adam Curry: Good. Well done.
Take their money. All right.
2:35:52
What was the other funny one?
2:35:54
John C Dvorak: Well, I don't
know how funny this one is. But
2:35:56
this is the interesting ball is
characteristic of the United
2:36:02
Nations. This is the CCP versus
UNESCO. This is a NTD we've read
2:36:08
not going to hear this anywhere
because
2:36:11
Adam Curry: good NTD exclusive.
2:36:13
John C Dvorak: I've never heard
this story anywhere else.
2:36:15
Unknown: The United Nations
agency dealing with education
2:36:18
and culture is under fire. It
faces accusations of being
2:36:21
complicit in ongoing atrocities
by the CCP against Uighurs and
2:36:26
their culture entities. Daniel
Monahan has more.
2:36:29
A new report by the Uighur Human
Rights Project says the CCP is
2:36:33
carrying out systematic actions
against Uyghur culture and
2:36:36
heritage everything that gives
the Uyghurs their unique
2:36:39
cultural identity. According to
the report is being targeted by
2:36:43
the CCP that includes tradition,
music, dance, religion,
2:36:47
language, poetry, and more. The
CCP is also destroying mosques
2:36:51
and other religious sites and
restricting the use of regional
2:36:55
languages. The report says this
is part of a broader campaign of
2:36:59
genocide in the region of
western China known as Shin Joan
2:37:02
UNESCO is the UN cultural agency
that slough
2:37:05
Adam Curry: hold on Sorry, that
was a weird edit. I want to hear
2:37:07
that again. But her campaign of
2:37:09
Unknown: genocide in the region
of western China known as Shin
2:37:12
Jang, they just inserted
2:37:14
Adam Curry: that. Did you hear
that? Like a whole different
2:37:17
voice just pops in like they had
to end it not. Now. There's a
2:37:20
reason for that, I'm
2:37:21
Unknown: sure destroying mosques
and restricting the use of
2:37:25
regional languages. The report
says this is part of a broader
2:37:29
campaign of genocide in the
region of western China known as
2:37:33
Shin Jang to UNESCO as the UN
cultural agency that serves to
2:37:37
protect cultural heritage around
the world. The report charges
2:37:41
UNESCO with remaining silent
when it should speak up Peter
2:37:44
Irwin of the Uighur Human Rights
Project asks Where is UNESCO and
2:37:48
the Chinese government is
literally destroying the
2:37:51
identity and culture of good
question. Irwin believes UNESCO
2:37:55
is refusing to speak out due to
the funding it receives from
2:37:58
China. Meanwhile, the UN Human
Rights Council took the rare
2:38:02
step of voting down a motion to
discuss human rights abuses by
2:38:06
China against wiegers in October
of last year,
2:38:09
there can be no doubt about the
gravity and the scale of what
2:38:13
has been reported
2:38:13
as shinjang. It was only the
second time in the council 16
2:38:17
year history that emotion was
rejected. The vote was seen as a
2:38:21
blow to the credibility of the
United Nations itself.
2:38:24
No country no matter how
powerful should be excluded from
2:38:28
Council discussions.
2:38:29
UNESCO continues to acknowledge
the Chinese regime as the
2:38:33
protector of Uighur heritage in
the region. Uighur Muslims are
2:38:36
among many groups that experts
in human rights monitors they
2:38:40
are persecuted by the CCP. Other
victims include practitioners of
2:38:44
Falun Gong, Christians, Tibetans
and more.
2:38:48
Adam Curry: Wow, this definitely
some stuff going on with China
2:38:51
and the rest of the world.
2:38:52
John C Dvorak: Here's what gets
me about these Uighur reports.
2:38:56
The Uyghurs are Muslims. The
Muslims have what they call it
2:39:02
so far as their universal
brotherhood is an ummah, which
2:39:07
is the world of Muslims. And
they usually stick up for each
2:39:12
other in a very aggressive way.
And it seems to me that why were
2:39:18
Saudi Arabia in this situation
where they get to move a lot of
2:39:22
oil control of who gets what,
where's the where's the Muslims
2:39:26
in India that are that are
affected by this because it
2:39:29
affects the Ummah, where are the
Muslims of the Middle East and
2:39:33
involved with China where the
Chinese have just did a deal
2:39:36
with Saudi Arabia with Iran?
Yeah, they will words they're
2:39:41
complaining about this decade,
decades of fighting me where the
2:39:44
Muslim community as a whole
regarding these Uyghurs, they if
2:39:48
you hear nothing from them,
2:39:50
Adam Curry: how about this? It's
all about the money. It always
2:39:54
is. China is is you know, now
that we are clearly we are
2:39:59
destroying the Petrodollar from
the inside out by removing the
2:40:03
petro part. And making it we're
gonna call the windmill dollar,
2:40:07
this son panel dollar solar
panel, which all made by China,
2:40:12
the China is on deck, they're
gonna take over and people are
2:40:15
scared and they're just like,
oh, you know, most politicians.
2:40:18
Well, we'll just we'll just go
to the winner. How about that?
2:40:25
John C Dvorak: Well, that's one
possibility, because I can't
2:40:28
think of anything else that none
of this makes any sense.
2:40:31
Unknown: I'm going to show my
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Imagine all the people who could
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John C Dvorak: What was the
guy's got Baby coming.
2:50:01
Adam Curry: And he's going to
name the baby after us as usual
2:50:04
John C Dvorak: right as the
whole thing. In the news,
2:50:08
there's a link in the newsletter
I would. People should check it
2:50:11
out.
2:50:12
Adam Curry: We have one meetup
report. It's a written report
2:50:13
the goodbye Beetlejuice March
18. This is from Dame Courtney.
2:50:17
We have seven South Side slaves
present for The Good Wife
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Beetlejuice cabbage Smash, two
of which were nights in one day
2:50:23
and one new attendee and Og
listener from 2008. Very nice.
2:50:27
For further information about
cabbage bash, it was like
2:50:29
batting practice with cabbage,
and you just kept hitting
2:50:32
cabbage until it was no more.
Fortunately, the flail broke
2:50:35
after four years of use for the
cabbage bash. Hopefully the
2:50:38
event will have replacement
flail was a flail. flail, I
2:50:42
don't want to flail
2:50:42
John C Dvorak: is sort of a bad
I'm guessing some sort of a
2:50:44
thing is swing at the end. Then
you flail at the cabin.
2:50:48
Adam Curry: It's like a pin
Yatta stick got it? Oh, okay. I
2:50:52
did see the video. Invitation to
Mike from Gary, Indiana to come
2:50:55
over Blue Island is only 30
minute drive many from Chicago
2:50:58
thought about heading to Gary
but traffic that time and
2:51:01
direction is prohibitive. Until
next time Dame Courtney Thank
2:51:03
you very much Dame Courtney.
Here's what's coming up. Meetup
2:51:06
wise you can hit the rational
drinkers club at 530 at stodgy
2:51:10
Brewing Company Fort Collins,
Colorado should be able to hit
2:51:13
that no problem. Super time six
o'clock at Miller's Ale House in
2:51:18
Orlando, Florida. Oh, the Duke
of the South. So Patrick Coble
2:51:21
in Florida taking care of that
nice. Saturday Breaking New
2:51:25
Hampshire at two o'clock
shooters Tavern in Belmont, New
2:51:28
Hampshire. Flight of the no
agenda number 39 3:33pm
2:51:32
Steelcraft city of Long Beach in
Long Beach, California Leo Bravo
2:51:36
Hostnet as he always does. Also
Saturday the Northeast Texas
2:51:39
mushroom hung well outdoor movie
and bonfire 530 at Fred lobster
2:51:45
International Speedway is that's
the one with the dirty Jersey
2:51:48
horror hosting. And finally on
Sunday next show day Myrtle
2:51:51
Beach Conway last minute river
party 430 at Rusty's house, it's
2:51:55
a private residence. So that's
in Conway South Carolina. So go
2:51:59
to no agenda meetups.com get all
the information for that if
2:52:02
you're in that, in that locale
in that area. And of course you
2:52:06
can start your own meetup. It's
very easy. It's no agenda
2:52:09
meetup.com There's no no
franchise fee or anything like
2:52:13
that. It's all about getting
together with your community
2:52:16
something you need now more than
ever in these troubling times.
2:52:19
Because connection is
protection. No agenda
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meetups.com always guaranteed
2:52:25
Unknown: go hang out with Tyson
days. You won't be triggered you
2:52:36
to be where everybody feels the
same. It's like a
2:52:45
Adam Curry: I believe you have
you seem to have a lot of ISOs
2:52:48
today so I'll let you I have
only one so yeah, one play
2:52:52
yours. No, no, I want to I want
to do mine. But I want to do my
2:52:56
last if you don't mind.
2:52:58
John C Dvorak: Okay, let's start
with that hold on. Gotta get my
2:53:04
glasses way you read? Yeah, I
hear ya. Star was sick.
2:53:10
Adam Curry: Sick. Okay, they're
all sick. Okay,
2:53:15
John C Dvorak: okay, sexy.
2:53:18
Unknown: So talented and so sexy
too
2:53:22
Adam Curry: long, but I like it
as long but I like it. Yeah,
2:53:24
like okay, Trey. Heck
2:53:25
John C Dvorak: yeah. Heck yeah.
2:53:29
Adam Curry: I like sexy better.
2:53:31
John C Dvorak: Okay, we're gonna
try this one hot.
2:53:33
Unknown: I just felt something
hot on my legs.
2:53:39
Adam Curry: Okay, I only have
one
2:53:40
John C Dvorak: powered by the
way. Those are all jokes were
2:53:43
all sent to me. Well, not all of
them but a couple of them from
2:53:45
Fletcher found them out of the
blue and he says blue these old
2:53:49
things.
2:53:49
Adam Curry: Nice. I think I have
a contender only have one but I
2:53:52
think it's a contender. Powered
by
2:53:54
Unknown: hydrogen technology.
Okay,
2:53:57
Adam Curry: come on. You don't
like it?
2:53:59
John C Dvorak: Compared to this
hot on my legs.
2:54:02
Adam Curry: Well, let me see. I
think it's
2:54:04
Unknown: so talented and so sexy
too.
2:54:07
That's pretty
2:54:07
Adam Curry: good. And the other
one I just felt
2:54:09
Unknown: something hot on my
legs. That's
2:54:12
Adam Curry: disgusting. That's
disgusting. I think I think hot
2:54:16
talented and talented and so
2:54:18
John C Dvorak: sexy to know.
Okay, you can use that one but I
2:54:21
think that's the one. I think
the lewd one might be funnier.
2:54:26
Adam Curry: Well, I'm not. I'm
not going to argue.
2:54:31
John C Dvorak: I'm pro produces
sexy when this he went ahead. He
2:54:33
reflects better on the show.
2:54:36
Adam Curry: It does. Because
otherwise it sounds like you
2:54:38
know, we just put a gobbly goo
on someone's leg. It's not. It's
2:54:41
not good, man. It's not a good
look for us.
2:54:44
John C Dvorak: I will tell you
about not good. I got one last
2:54:46
clip. All right, let's play it.
Tell me what Biden says here.
2:54:52
Adam Curry: Okay, there's only
one that's titled Biden. I'm
2:54:54
gonna presume this is it.
2:54:55
Unknown: I'm proud to use my
authority under the Antiquities
2:54:58
Act to establish To the and I
want you to know it's a big
2:55:04
deal. They have any qua may I'm
having trouble. Thank you. I got
2:55:13
it.
2:55:15
Adam Curry: Oh man Pavani kami
What is What was this about?
2:55:19
John C Dvorak: A it was a new
some Memorial he was dedicating
2:55:22
he couldn't pronounce what it
was.
2:55:24
Adam Curry: It's almost like us
with meet up places. You know,
2:55:27
people are yelling at us that we
pronounced them the wrong way.
2:55:29
This is the President of the
United States. We're lost. The
2:55:33
dollar is lost. Biden's loss
everyone's lost. And we'll have
2:55:41
more uplifting news on Thursday
show I will be back in the heart
2:55:46
of the Texas Hill Country very
excited about that or not.
2:55:51
There's only one flight out on
Saturday. That's it. We're
2:55:54
making it is happening. Coming
up next and no agenda stream.com
2:55:58
Oh, look at that Korean
zookeeper episode. 34 nice. It's
2:56:02
a fun little show should listen
to for primetime. Thank you
2:56:05
bemrose for scheduling that. And
we've got to end of show mixes
2:56:08
we have one from the clip
custodian himself, Neal Jones,
2:56:12
and we have sir TJ the wrathful
and as human resources known
2:56:16
from we don't talk about Brandon
back with the a Lego take off
2:56:22
mix very nice little ditty. We
appreciate that. It's coming to
2:56:25
you from the heart of the West
Indies here in Montego Bay,
2:56:28
Jamaica in the morning
everybody. I'm Adam curry.
2:56:31
John C Dvorak: And from Northern
Silicon Valley I should mention
2:56:34
that the sales of vinyl records
surpassed that of CDs in 2020 to
2:56:41
about that I'm John C. Dvorak we
return
2:56:43
Adam Curry: on Thursday right
here on no agenda remember us at
2:56:46
the boruch.org/na Until then
adios mofos and who we who we
2:56:50
end such
2:56:58
Oh yeah, I don't trust back
2:57:03
Unknown: quickly Is this the end
the end of what
2:57:11
why don't you put it in the
bank? I don't trust banks
2:57:19
I don't trust banks either. It's
either don't trust big banks big
2:57:25
banks or small banks all
2:57:31
Adam Curry: together I decided
to close this account it's not
2:57:34
the big money but still might be
for especially for the tight
2:57:39
trust banks
2:57:47
Unknown: Oh yeah, I don't trust
cross cross I don't trust trust
2:58:07
Okay, girls, what did we learn
in today's episode I'm a proud
2:58:14
night oh oh well that's normally
true but anything else
2:58:27
everything
2:58:39
they just lie like
2:58:42
they've been trying to control
the masses for your mind you
2:58:50
will find it's all over again.
This is a scam blending.
2:58:55
Yes. Okay. Everything is run by
the CIA
2:59:13
heard the show everyone's
talking or you divorce
2:59:16
deconstructing? That's their job
pointing out stupidity with an
2:59:19
awesome no agenda. Just by slice
and curry the more I can show
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you why value for value is their
way they end up just for the
2:59:26
past 15 years and also produces
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Adam Curry: scam no.
2:59:52
Unknown: That's a scam that's
2:59:53
Adam Curry: a scam.
2:59:55
John C Dvorak: It's a scandal to
me. This is a scam Ice Guzzi is
3:00:00
a massive scam
3:00:10
Unknown: vora.org/and A so
talented and so to