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1543: Buffalo Feathers

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Adam Curry: correlation does not imply causation.
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Unknown: Adam curry Jhansi Devora Sunday April
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Adam Curry: 2 2023. This is your award winning chemo nation media
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assassination episode 1543.
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Unknown: This is no agenda. second guessing sealed
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indictments
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Adam Curry: and broadcasting live from the heart of the Texas
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Hill Country here. Number six in the morning, everybody. I'm Adam
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curry,
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John C Dvorak: and from Northern Silicon Valley where I'm trying
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to find that food I can eat before I go to bed to get rid of
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that bellies fat while I sleep. I'm Jhansi Dvorak.
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Unknown: Buzzkill.
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Adam Curry: No, man, you need ozempic ozempic will do it for
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you. Oh, we
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John C Dvorak: get those Olympic face.
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Adam Curry: I know people who are on the ozempic right now and
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they love it.
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John C Dvorak: Yeah, until their face collapses.
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Adam Curry: But the thing is, I don't think you can stop with
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the ozempic. And that's when it all goes wrong. And that's one
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of the oh, that could be Yeah, you can stop and while you're
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taking it side effects or nausea, diarrhea. Tourette's?
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Oh, no, I'm sorry. That's I made that ozempic
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John C Dvorak: face ozempic face. Yes.
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Adam Curry: So you are typically that you used to be used to be
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we talked we've talked about this from time to time, the
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April Fool's Day master. And
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John C Dvorak: yes, I'm in the same hall of fame for doing a
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couple of
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Adam Curry: Yes, you are. You are and of course, ever since
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the internet it you really can't do April Fool's jokes. They just
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don't work that the internet broke the April Fool's joke.
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John C Dvorak: I believe so. Yeah. And so why and why is
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that? Well, yes. Why is that John? Because there's no time,
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real time constraints with the joke. The joke goes onto the
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internet where it stays forever and is often read sometime in
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the middle of November.
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Adam Curry: Right? If it's a good one,
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John C Dvorak: yeah. And then it gets read as as something
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serious in the middle of November. There's no association
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with April 1. And it becomes a nightmare.
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Adam Curry: Exactly. And so, people still try him. You know,
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they they still you know, there's a lot of Bitcoin people
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saying, Oh, I bought Aetherium. Okay, ha, very funny.
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John C Dvorak: Is that a joke? You can buy a theory
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Adam Curry: Exactly. And so Erina who runs no agenda,
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social. He did something very interesting yesterday, which he
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considered to be an April Fool's joke, but it actually did more.
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I'm sure you saw that he posted? I can't handle the the kk k Nazi
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Cardrooms anymore. I'm transitioning. I'm becoming
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crystal. I'm moving to California. And tonight, I will
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be shutting off no agenda social. And he did he should
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shut off. So first of all, that's not really an April
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Fool's joke. I mean, it doesn't have the right elements,
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correct?
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John C Dvorak: Well, I didn't, I didn't analyze his gag. It had a
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lot of elements. It didn't. One of the elements. It has to have
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it. It has to have April Fool's. A giveaway in there somewhere.
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It's usually coded.
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Adam Curry: Well, the whole that was the problem. Like the whole
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thing was a giveaway. I mean, it was obvious that that was not
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true. So he posted that a couple hours before. And then he
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actually did shut it down, which
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John C Dvorak: I think that that made it work. But you thought,
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Oh, interesting.
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Adam Curry: Here's what it did for me. It made me realize how
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addicted people are to this thing, because they were DMing.
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Tina, any way they can get a hold of what's going on? Is this
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a fool? April Fool's joke. I really you can't see that.
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That's an April Fool's joke. But also, it made me realize that
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even myself with godlike powers, admin powers, I was powerless.
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So he's not interesting.
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John C Dvorak: By the way, I should mention to people out
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there if if you say, is this an April Fool's joke, and you check
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the calendar, and it's actually April 1 99.9% of the time it's
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April Fool's. Right. Right. So you shouldn't have to ask.
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Adam Curry: Exactly. But it was it was also kind of like, you
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know, social media is basically broken. You know, even I could
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get D platformed. What if you woke up and was really was
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really mad and went screw this I'm shutting it down.
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John C Dvorak: He could do it. You do it on the third
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Adam Curry: please do it. Okay, you've made my point. I guess. I
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and people are posting on Twitter. What's going on, man?
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What's going on? I hope it made people realize how valuable that
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resources and how they treated sometimes like a trash heap.
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Yeah. And also made me go Oh, cool. I'm gonna go to noster
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started Wanna start posting stuff over there? It was just
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interesting. I thought it had an extra effect from a typical
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April Fool's joke as the same with, I don't know, if you saw
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that email from the producer, that apparently Devin Mulvaney
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that's Dylan, Dylan Dylan, who somehow got plucked out of the
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world of trans and, and, and wound up asking the President
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questions in a, in a q&a session was now a spokesperson for Bud
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Light. And, and this person has really convinced that it's true.
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I'm like, I, you know, and
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John C Dvorak: I saw that thread out as one of those things,
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because I just commented early on in the thread and I can't get
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kept. He kept I was stuck on this. This is an example of one
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of those threads. I had no interest in any of this Dylan
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Mulvaney anything, no. And I can it takes me a while to remember
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who this person is. It's just an annoying person. It just they've
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just not. I wished it right on the
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Adam Curry: but but to me, it's a I hear you. But it's a typical
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example of an April Fool's joke has gone too far. Because people
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not as true. I'm not. I mean, I can't. Anheuser Busch was my
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client for many years. I built bud.com Bud light.com. I have a
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hard time believing that they would they would go this woke
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and decide that yeah, this is a good idea. I agree.
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John C Dvorak: No. Well, I I agree with you. But the
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Budweiser you worked for was Anheuser Busch.
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Adam Curry: I know they I know they were purchased. But it's
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still the Anheuser Busch people who are still in charge of the
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marketing just because the company was bought by the
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Belgian company.
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John C Dvorak: InBev.
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Adam Curry: Yeah, I anyway. But this kind of folds into just one
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thing that I was astounded by astounded by a statement from
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the President on was this Friday or Saturday? I think it was
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Friday, March 31. Yeah. So it was Friday. Statement state.
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This is on whitehouse.gov statement from President Joe
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Biden on transgender day of visibility. Now, we didn't know
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this was going on.
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John C Dvorak: We did I posted it in the newsletter.
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Adam Curry: Yeah, that was on Saturday. But this was this. The
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Transgender Day of visibility was Friday. I thought it was
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Saturday. The 31st is, is Friday.
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John C Dvorak: I know that but I thought that the signage that
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I've posted in the newsletter showed that when they changed
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the name to day visibility became the day of vengeance and
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it was Mark.
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Adam Curry: April 1, the day of vengeance is something
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different.
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John C Dvorak: Well, the day of vengeance was supposed to be
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Saturday was a well, that was Saturday, but it was supposed to
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be the day of visibility, that they changed the day of
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vengeance. Okay, well, did you read and they were gonna change
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it back after the shooting? And then they said, No, we'd be
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weenies if we did that. And so they they too, can make gigs
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here. I won't do it.
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Adam Curry: Did you read the statement from the President? I
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did not it we should read it. Now. I'm just gonna read the big
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the top and the bottom. made a joke on transgender day of like,
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Hey,
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John C Dvorak: this is an example of a joke off the cuff
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that you had to say you had to actually dislike an April
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Fool's. You have to tell the you had to say it was a joke. That
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makes it funny. I just
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Adam Curry: came up with it too. On Transgender Day of
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visibility, visibility, we celebrate the strength, joy and
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absolute courage of some of the bravest people I know.
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transgender Americans deserve to be safe and supported in every
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community. But today, across our country, Magga extremists are
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advancing hundreds of hateful and extreme state laws that
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target transgender kids and their families. No one should
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have to be brave just to be themselves. I mean, this. This
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is
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John C Dvorak: really your this is legit.
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Adam Curry: I'm reading it off. whitehouse.gov. So yeah, I would
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say that's legit. And then he goes through this whole thing.
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So seriously, I mean, to bring in Magga extremists and to say,
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Okay, here's this. Yeah. And what is mag extremists really?
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What does that mean?
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John C Dvorak: Well, Red Hat. Yeah, exactly. And it clashes
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with a an orange shirt.
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Adam Curry: And at the bottom, this, this was the most
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interesting thing. To me personally, I want every member
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of the trans community to know that we see you. You're each
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made in the image of God and deserve Love, dignity and
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respect. You make America stronger and we're with you. So
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you can did not have a more divisive inflammatory statement
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by putting these two concepts into your into your statement
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that that's really bad. That's that's not the Joe Biden who
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said he was going to bring people together. I don't think.
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John C Dvorak: So you're actually going on the assumption
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that Biden wrote this or even knew it was released?
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Adam Curry: Well, okay. Obviously, you know, that's an
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obvious point. obvious point. Now, at the same time on April
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Fool's Day,
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John C Dvorak: I smell Valerie Jarrett, by the way.
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Adam Curry: Yeah, yeah, you're right. A fantastic website came
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out. South woke.com. And this was came out on and now this is
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a whole new twist came out on April Fool's Day, but it's very
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serious and it has money behind it. You've got to go to South
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woke.com.
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John C Dvorak: This is a tape now.
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Adam Curry: This is a take off of the Southwest airlines
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website. And it is deep, professionally done. It has
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videos it has very funny things like news, new stories for our
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new stories. Southwark hires fabulous Sam Brinton as our new
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baggage czar. Really, really hilarious stuff. Southwold goes
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drag for the children. I mean, and then these guys and I think
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the pilots aid pilots union or pilots organizations behind it,
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they had money. They were putting up billboards with
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Southwest promoting southwest.com. It is well done.
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It's very funny. And from what I understand from some of the some
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of our airmen
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John C Dvorak: sounds woke at airline this inclusive everyone
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except you.
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Adam Curry: Exactly. Message and,
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John C Dvorak: by the way, if I'm not mistaken, I could be
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wrong. But in one of the images that they flashed across screen,
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they have all these these weird looking stewardesses and
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stewards. And I think that bald person, the bald tread the bald
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nonbinary in the middle, I think the head is the head of the sea.
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Yes, I think that's his head.
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Adam Curry: It is correct. It's very funny. Apparently,
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Southwest is losing an average of one and a half pilots per
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day. They're just leaving, there's plenty of other places
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to go. Plenty of other airlines need pilots. The as is witnessed
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by what happened. And Minnesota nuts. I know a few of you might
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not have heard about it. The 31 Day pilot month hit again, this
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time was delta, their turn their turn to melt down with 12% of
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all flights nationwide canceled. The course of as we know, March
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is a peak month 31 days. And that means that pilots run out
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of hours, they don't have enough pilots. Of course, the storm in
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Minneapolis was the impetus. But the end of month pilot shortage.
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They don't have the slack to recover. I mean, even Sun
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country airlines, which is much smaller, you know, as a low cost
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airline, they only can cancel I think 4% And that was mainly due
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to weather of delta is the airline that prides themselves
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on being the gold standard for operations integrity. So the
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breakdown of our aviation system continues. Continue continues.
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But I thought I'd good. No, not good at all. But I thought it
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was really I hadn't really loved that South woke.com
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John C Dvorak: And we very good. Yeah. Very professionally,
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right?
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Adam Curry: Yeah. A lot. A lot of producers work at Southwest
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or no south and they're also disappointed with within with a
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new manager. There's even an email floating around that, you
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know, really pissed off pilots who are saying we're leaving,
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we're just not and they are. They're leaving the same screw
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you. We're not we're not going to we're not going to
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participate in this bullcrap anymore. And it may be well,
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anyway. Did you get that email about the post office? I got
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several emails from our mail carrying professionals, which is
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a constitutional gig in the post offices. It's in the
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Constitution that didn't didn't they have like some enormous
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amount of funding that went into the post office? The Postal
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Service?
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John C Dvorak: Yeah, they do that every so often they get a
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bunch of money.
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Adam Curry: This is from one of our producers. The post office
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today told the majority and this is one producer in just one
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particular area. The rural carriers that they're updating
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their salary basing their pay off of certain criteria in their
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scanners, you know when they deliver something, they scan it.
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And apparently these things don't work half of the time, I
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think I can probably agree with that. I've seen it fail many
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times when something's been delivered. And so this one
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producer says he is losing $20,000 from the 70,000, he was
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on track to make this year. Now remember, these were the heroes
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who were supposed to be royally rewarded for continued to work
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during during COVID. That's 20,000 out of 70. And of course,
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this was sprung on and this, this takes effect almost
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immediately. And they'll have to work six days a week now without
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overtime.
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John C Dvorak: What is it seems to be a part of the overall scam
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that's been going on?
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Adam Curry: Well, what's the scam? Who's Who's running? Who's
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running the scam? What what's going on with this?
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John C Dvorak: Well, this started of course, when they had
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to pre fund something like 30 years, right? Which is what put
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them in arrears, even though it's a phony baloney deal, but
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it put the put the post office in, kind of in the red. And it
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kept him that way, because it's impossible to do that. Nobody
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does that. And it's all been a scheme. Supposedly, that was
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begun by FedEx and and United Parcel to get take over that
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business. And it began years ago,
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Adam Curry: of course, of course, of course. Oh, they're
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just trying to sell it out. That's your great reset, right
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there.
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John C Dvorak: Well, this has been, at least, was gone on
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before we began this show 15 years ago, and it began. I
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Adam Curry: know, as Rob has been planning this for 15 years.
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It's a long
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John C Dvorak: game, but because of the nature of the being in
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the Constitution, they know they can't do anything about it.
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Adam Curry: So they're just gonna make everyone quit because
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they can't live off.
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John C Dvorak: They haven't been able to get it shuttered. Yeah,
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well, this is where code
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Adam Curry: starts a good start. And then one more just on this,
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since we're on kind of that topic,
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John C Dvorak: that sounds like a lawsuit waiting to happen. I
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Adam Curry: sure hope so. I sure hope so. That's nuts. I got to
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talk to Diana she's our mail carrier find out from her how
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she got affected a bit you know, when you have a mail carrier,
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like who you know, and who you give a Christmas gift to it
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doesn't have to be money. We give her money but also
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Christmas card. You know, when there's some piece of mail that
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that needs to be signed for yesterday, cuz we don't go to
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our it's our mailboxes like down the road. It's not at the road
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itself. And I opened up and there's a there's a rip piece of
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registered mail. And in it a little card. You of course you
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have your green, the green card that you have to sign a little
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card from Diana saying, Hey, would you mind just signing this
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and just putting it back in the box? And she even clipped her
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pen to it?
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John C Dvorak: Yeah, that's the kind of service you get. She was
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a waiter in a previous life.
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Adam Curry: No, she's been a mail carrier for like 23 years
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or something. She's joke. Yeah. Anyway. Yes, a joke. I'm glad
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you explained it.
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John C Dvorak: Make sure you flip up a little red flag. Yes.
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Adam Curry: So we know that NPR due to the soft advertising
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market and the fact that they only get 2% of their money from
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from government. The rest is just adds color, whatever you
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want. They had to let go of about 100 employees of which
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many were in the overstaffed podcasting department. Because
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they all bought into the podcast industrial complex hype of all
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your Spotify Bonanza is gonna be great rad, let's Russ unionize.
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And so they had a they had a zoom Town Hall because people
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were mad, mad. Now, a big group of this 100 cannot be fired
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because they actually organized into a union and though it's in
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a different union outside of the after Union, and the the, the
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management of NPR recognized it before this all came down. So
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now they actually can't get let go those people, but they had
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all kinds and so the staff, they're all pissed off, they
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calculate the nerve, the nerve of letting all these people go,
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we work so hard, and see if this sounds familiar to you. Among
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the record, I'm reading from Bloomberg. Among the requests,
19:32
employees wanted to see how much more specific want to see more
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specific breakdowns around the number or percentage of
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employees of different races and identities who were laid off
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rather than those of the remaining employees. They also
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wanted to know more information about their audiences, and what
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the plans will be for hiring a Chief Content Officer and more
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clarity about how the layoffs were carried out. So they're now
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weaponizing dei Oh, are you firing black people? And then my
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favorite, you'll recognize this. The already tense environment
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boiled over during an exchange between CEO Lansing and a laid
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off black employee, that employee voiced concern that
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some podcasts hadn't received marketing support, and wondered
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how a show could gain audience without it. Does this sound like
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what I've always said that you can't monetize the network? And
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you can you can't have a network of shows because people are
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always complaining about I didn't get any promotion. I
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mean, yeah. And we, we didn't get the right we didn't, we
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didn't get enough advertising buys. Sound familiar?
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John C Dvorak: Well, this is yeah, this is exactly what you
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hear in publishing, especially in book publishing. And I'm
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always reminded of a friend of mine, I haven't seen it for a
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long time. But he did this. Neil Rubin king. He did. He did a
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book called I think it was called guide to dos in a can.
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Adam Curry: Dos in a Can I like it,
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John C Dvorak: and it was in a can. You could have come up with
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this idea. And so you had to get a can opener. Open they can't
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actually get the book out.
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Adam Curry: This is some this is some Silicon Valley loyal here.
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Nowhere else. Definitely that okay.
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John C Dvorak: And so it didn't sell well, for a lot of probably
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a lot of street. I think logistics reasons you had to
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ship these cans all over the place. And the bookstores didn't
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know where to put the can right idea, though. It's a funny idea.
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And I remember one time I was in, I think it was in Germany,
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sometimes I was at a grocery store. And we always go to these
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grocery stores and they had pickle in a can. And I always
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thought it was cute. It's like a different kinds of dill pickles.
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One pickle in a Can a small, very small can, you know is cute
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gimmick. And I've never seen it before a sense, but the book in
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the can. So Neil did the book didn't do well at all. I mean,
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nobody wanted these books in a can. And so all he did was
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grouse. So I didn't get any marketing support. Oh, yeah,
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exactly.
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Adam Curry: Well, here's the kicker. So one of the podcasts
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that that I was very successful that rocketed to the top of the
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charts. Everybody was invisibIe Lea invisibIe Lea was they were
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on the level of watch the shows that come back show the true
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crime drama that brought podcasting back. How come I'm
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spacing?
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John C Dvorak: Yeah, the simplify was the name of it. No,
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no
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Unknown: shortfall.
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Adam Curry: No, no, no, that's not it. It was lunch, Bob. Yeah,
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close. But that's not it. Cereal cereal,
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John C Dvorak: cereal cereal. That's the one. Yeah.
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Adam Curry: So it actually outage did cereal a little bit.
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How much do you think it cost on an annual basis invisibility was
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canceled? How much do you think it costs on an annual basis to
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produce invisibIe? Lea
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John C Dvorak: more than we take in correct $1 million
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Adam Curry: to produce the show. I don't care what you're doing.
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There's that's not the model of podcasting.
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John C Dvorak: No, the model got to be Yeah,
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Adam Curry: it's cheap, kiss. It's cheap. We of course, have
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perfected the model by accepting value for value, which is time,
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talent and treasure. So if you build a website, or if you turn
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it off, you know,
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John C Dvorak: that if we had 10 employees that we this model
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would fail. Of course, those all those podcasts have like John
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Stewart's reproduce, we had
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Adam Curry: one extra employee this model would fail.
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John C Dvorak: Yeah, it would, it would, yes. But 10 days,
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we're talking those guys are loaded to the gills. They got to
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they got two or three people that are doing this show they
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got they got to get engineers one or two engineers. They've
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got five producers. They got a
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Adam Curry: writer, line producer, they got
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John C Dvorak: to get a couple of writers I'm gonna say they
24:13
Adam Curry: were probably more like 25 people not even 10
24:17
John C Dvorak: No, surprise me if it was 25 people and they got
24:22
a studio overhead studio Neumann Mike Neumann Mike's
24:27
Adam Curry: soundproof on like, you know, here, it's like you
24:30
hear the echo of my room. I don't know. I can't afford a
24:32
soundproof
24:33
John C Dvorak: you really don't have much echo in your room.
24:35
Adam Curry: No, but still. I use noise gates for that very
24:39
reason. You know, I can hear the traffic on those on the bridge
24:44
if I don't use a noise gate on your on your mic.
24:48
John C Dvorak: I mean, we're not I don't sound like this. Hey, I
24:51
don't know what.
24:56
Adam Curry: Exactly, exactly. So Thank you all very much for
25:02
contributing to the show. It's the only way we can make it
25:04
work. A tweet from Nancy Pelosi, which was just too delicious to
25:10
be true. Trump, the grand jury has acted upon the facts and the
25:16
law. She writes, no one is above the law. And everyone has the
25:21
right to a trial to prove innocence.
25:24
Unknown: When people are innocent until well alleged to
25:28
be involved in some type of criminal activity.
25:32
Adam Curry: Can you believe what she wrote? Wow, okay, for a
25:38
while. And then
25:40
John C Dvorak: she's here. She doesn't know you're innocent
25:42
until proven guilty.
25:44
Adam Curry: Twitter even put a disclaimer on her tweet, which I
25:48
thought was pretty funny. I haven't seen that in a while.
25:51
And the disclaimer says Miss Pelosi mistakenly says that
25:55
Trump can prove his innocence at trial law in the US assumes the
25:58
innocence of a defendant and the prosecution must prove guilt for
26:02
a conviction with a link to Cornell
26:04
John C Dvorak: Law School. This is I think, play one more time
26:08
played the Brennan this letter
26:09
Adam Curry: former former director of CIA, John Brennan,
26:12
Unknown: people are innocent until alleged to be involved in
26:15
some type of criminal activity.
26:19
John C Dvorak: This is our government. Yeah.
26:22
Adam Curry: And that's how distorted they are. It's, it's,
26:26
it's crazy. It's, um, this was this, of course happened on a
26:31
show day, right after we had said that which we believe to be
26:36
true, of course, that the grand jury was going on, was going on
26:42
vacation for a month.
26:45
John C Dvorak: So they said that I guess they got some blowback
26:50
buy from somebody and they said, You better come up with
26:52
something now and then go on vacation. Yes. Somebody told
26:56
them to do this.
26:57
Adam Curry: So here's what's happening everywhere. And I'm
27:01
going to play I'm sure I know. You have clips I've and some of
27:04
them are hilarious at the hilarity of this. If I were in
27:08
charge of this political indictment, I'd keep it going as
27:10
long as I could. This I mean, this is humorous. This is great.
27:14
Everyone's got something to say people's heads are exploding.
27:17
And I love this. There's one particular lie blatant lie that
27:22
keeps getting repeated. I saw Bill Maher do it on Friday
27:25
night. This is France 24 with the with their correspondent,
27:29
Doug, you know douchebag Doug, listen to the lie that he
27:32
repeats that everyone is talking about.
27:35
Unknown: More analysis, I'm joined on set by our
27:37
international affairs commentator, Douglas Herbert.
27:40
Hello, again, Donald Trump. His reaction basically has been not
27:43
to hide from this. He's essentially challenging
27:46
prosecutors to bring it on.
27:48
Yeah, look, you know, we just heard that that last woman there
27:50
among those reactions from voters, saying basically, you
27:54
know, she doesn't believe much is going to come of this, you
27:56
know, Donald Trump time and again, throughout his political
27:59
and even pre political career as a real estate mogul has defied
28:04
legal norms and precedents. He has evaded justice and any sort
28:09
of accountability or reckoning, factually, he has not been
28:13
before any sort of court on any sort of charges like this. And
28:16
he has generally behaved in a way that suggests that the
28:20
regular rules that would apply to other people don't apply to
28:23
him. And there's nothing to suggest that in this case,
28:26
that's going to change his weaponize this indictment, but
28:28
you are right. There are multiple investigations
28:31
outstanding against him. This is the first in what some believe,
28:35
including his former lawyer, Michael Cohen, who spent time in
28:37
prison for helping Donald Trump Allegedly, he has said that he
28:42
believes this is just the beginning.
28:43
Adam Curry: This is what everyone keeps saying, his
28:45
lawyer, his lawyer went to jail for it. No. Michael Cohen, as
28:52
far as I can remember, went to jail because he had some scam
28:55
going with taxi medallions. And somehow Michael Cohen even
29:01
believes this himself or he's squirrely with it at minimum and
29:07
he's he's everywhere here he is CNN this morning, trying to help
29:11
Don Lemon with his ratings. They can
29:12
Unknown: coordinate court dates, but they don't coordinate
29:14
indictments I have to go when they have to go where the
29:16
evidence leads. And there are things like the statute of
29:18
limitations or what have you. But technically, finally, Willis
29:21
in Georgia if she does indict, could go first. They could
29:24
coordinate and allow her to go to trial first, and this could
29:27
go second, this notion of oh, this is a weaker case. Then the
29:31
January 6, I acknowledge that January 6, was an insurrection,
29:36
like we haven't seen in what 150 years in this country, but
29:40
doesn't make this any less of a crime. You know, I always call
29:43
this the Capone theory, the Al Capone theory they couldn't get
29:46
a murder, extortion, racketeering, bootlegging, etc.
29:49
They got one
29:49
Adam Curry: tax, just loving soldiers, etc. They couldn't
29:53
Unknown: get them on murder, extortion, racketeering,
29:55
bootlegging, etc. They got one tax evasion. If that crime And
30:00
Don was enough for me to be charged, signed, convicted and
30:05
sent to prison. Why am I any different than Donald Trump?
30:09
Adam Curry: Am I Am I mistaken? Did he get charged for that
30:12
crime? Did I miss it? I misunderstood go
30:15
John C Dvorak: back and look, I mean, this guy's a douche bag
30:17
from the get go. He's worse than Avenue daddy who's also
30:21
influenced.
30:23
Adam Curry: Here's, here's a little mini mini mini mini mini
30:28
cut of Trump.
30:30
Unknown: I am a victim of one of the great political smear
30:33
campaigns in the history
30:35
of our country. The entire thing has been a witch hunt. And there
30:39
is no collusion. They were lawyers, they'd be disbarred for
30:41
what they're doing is a one sided witch hunt. And I'm a
30:45
victim. I will tell you, I'm a victim. Oh, they're after me for
30:49
so many things. Oh, those prosecutors.
30:53
Adam Curry: I gotta tell you, one of our trolls just said Oh,
30:55
Cohen still working for Trump. He got it all wrong. That's an
30:58
interesting theory. I like that. That's a very interesting
31:01
theory. Very, very, very, very good. I like that.
31:06
John C Dvorak: So I have a thought on this whole thing
31:08
distasteful. Well, of course, what really got on my nerves and
31:11
I had three clips here was the especially the New York late
31:16
night audiences sharing this as the as though this is some
31:20
positive step into in the direction of the American
31:24
Enterprise. That should be hired.
31:27
Adam Curry: Oh, man, did you see I don't know if you still have
31:30
an account on our little secret mastodon. Oh, have you been
31:34
there recently?
31:35
John C Dvorak: I haven't been there recently. I have a lot of
31:36
those. I'm I'm following a lot of those same people on on the
31:40
agenda social I just tagged him to follow.
31:43
Adam Curry: Now. Okay, well, that's a good way to get our
31:45
server on more banned lists.
31:47
John C Dvorak: How's that gonna work?
31:48
Adam Curry: Because then then no agenda social stuff flows
31:51
through to that to through the Federation?
31:54
John C Dvorak: Not the way I see it. You don't, okay? Doesn't
31:58
matter. If I go if I go to that little box and put somebody in I
32:02
want to follow. Craig Newmark, for example. If they show up in
32:08
my timeline, yes. It will show up in there as
32:12
Adam Curry: people that you follow show up in their
32:15
federated timeline. It's okay, doesn't matter. But that was the
32:18
whole point of giving you the secret the secret A
32:20
John C Dvorak: No, no, that's not I don't believe this has to
32:23
be true. Okay. So in other words, why would people I fall
32:26
off show up in their timeouts how
32:28
Adam Curry: the not in their timeline in their federated
32:30
timeline. That's how that's how Mastodon works.
32:35
John C Dvorak: Well, I don't see anybody that they're following
32:37
your timeline unless they like they're like they like their
32:40
posts.
32:41
Adam Curry: You don't look at the federated timeline. It
32:44
doesn't matter. I'm just saying. Doesn't matter. Okay.
32:48
John C Dvorak: So let's go to late this is the three clips
32:51
called Late Night hate.
32:53
Adam Curry: Oh, this is the late night talk shows all emanating
32:56
from New York. I see what you're saying. No,
32:57
John C Dvorak: no, no once from LA and that's the one that had
32:59
the mildest applause.
33:02
Adam Curry: Whose Okemos nailed it Okay, let's listen to him
33:04
first.
33:05
Unknown: Scott would never come we were skeptical. But let me
33:08
give you some insight on how our jobs work here at this show.
33:11
Less than two hours ago, I'm up in my office working on a
33:14
monologue. I'm typing about opening day for baseball and a
33:17
joke about how and other people at Cracker Jacks spent the whole
33:20
winter in the dark cheering I can't a bumblebee tuna. We had a
33:24
thing about a new nasal spray. They'll give you an erection in
33:27
five minutes. Or your next one is free. And guess what? We had
33:31
to throw it all in the garbage. It's all moot because the J and
33:36
Donald J Trump now stands for jail.
33:50
John C Dvorak: That was the
33:51
Adam Curry: short one. Yeah, that's it. Yeah. Okay.
33:54
John C Dvorak: So let's go to Fallon who really is pretty soft
33:56
pedaling. Each felon is not like a massive Trump hitter. He kind
34:02
of balances that does a lot of Biden jokes. And you could tell
34:05
that he was actually kind of surprised by his New York
34:07
audience reaction to his little mention of this sort of this
34:11
little factoid this park day clip two.
34:14
Unknown: Thank you very much, everybody. Welcome. Welcome.
34:16
Welcome to The Tonight Show. Thank you very much. Well, guys,
34:24
it's finally happened. A new york grand jury has voted to
34:27
indict former President Trump for his role in a hush money
34:31
payments made to stormy Daniels.
34:42
John C Dvorak: Wow, happy. They're very happy. But nothing
34:47
compares to this and I left the entire applause in this one. And
34:51
by the way, and then he could this is called bear and then he
34:54
after this law, by the way, this is not just applause on the
34:58
Colbert show. This is a standing ovation for the indictment of
35:03
Donald Trump, by members of the American public thinking this is
35:08
the greatest thing that's ever happened to this country.
35:10
Standing ovation. It goes on and on and on. I play the day and
35:15
then Colbert does more material which brings in louder and
35:18
louder applause I left the rest of it out because it got
35:21
tedious. But here we go.
35:23
Unknown: So I'm your host, Stephen Colbert. Ladies and
35:26
gentlemen, today I am feeling a little extra American. One
35:30
reason today is baseball's opening day here in New York. It
35:38
wasn't here in New York was 40 degrees, but I still ate ice
35:41
cream out of a baseball helmet. Why? Just little something we're
35:47
celebrating today because literally, three minutes before
35:51
I walked out on the stage here, the New York Times reported a
35:54
New York Grand Jury voted to indict former president.
36:17
Adam Curry: I always I'm glad when I see Americans happy
36:19
though. There's nothing I'm happy when America very happy.
36:24
John C Dvorak: I found this disgusting moment in American
36:27
history. And and they're New Yorkers in particular. This is
36:34
hateful people. Oh, yeah. And they're no he saw him up there.
36:38
And they showed the they would throw the camera into this
36:41
audience, it's doing a standing ovation for this. And there's
36:44
high fiving each other and patting each other in there. And
36:48
all these new yorkers it was I just thought it was kind of
36:51
sick. You know,
36:52
Adam Curry: I'm going to disagree a little bit there. I
36:54
think these are human resources, who are who feel very, they feel
37:01
very bad about where they're at where the world is at, they feel
37:05
bad about themselves. They are, they might be on most people on
37:10
some kind of drug they've, they they're depressed. And it
37:14
doesn't, it doesn't really matter. As long as it's
37:16
something that can all it was part of the the mass formations
37:20
they can all get on board with something. And it's it's almost
37:24
like the wave at the baseball stadium. I don't even think they
37:28
understand. It's Trump has became this, this this, this
37:34
thing to be together on for them. And, and I'm sure there's
37:39
also there's a big applause sign and they probably practice you
37:42
know, the, the, I'm sure the you know, the crowd, the warm up guy
37:49
probably got them all jacked and ready for it. So it's, I don't
37:54
know how organic it was pretty, pretty organic. But I think
37:57
people these people just, you know, look there at the show to
38:00
start with, which is a boring show, but they're probably
38:03
excited about being on it while I'm in a show. I'm gonna be on
38:06
camera. So, you know, do they really know what they're doing?
38:09
No, I think this simple.
38:11
John C Dvorak: Okay, okay, you can stop.
38:13
Adam Curry: MSNBC, though, was really off the chain. It was
38:18
like Stop the presses. We are Trump indictment Central. And
38:25
actually got a little bit of analysis from Rachel Maddow, who
38:27
still does a show apparently once a week.
38:30
Unknown: It is true that we have never indicted a former US
38:33
president before but we did indict a former US Vice
38:36
President, who had only been out of office for about two minutes,
38:40
literally when he was indicted in federal court in 1973. And
38:45
that case that Spiro Agnew case did have some remarkable
38:48
similarities to the reported charges against Mr. Trump today.
38:52
Adam Curry: For notice Mr. Trump, I always love it when
38:54
they do that Mr.
38:55
Unknown: Trump and charges against Mr. Trump today.
38:58
John C Dvorak: I would like to know before you continue, I'd
39:00
like to know what the what the similarities are. Spiro Agnew
39:05
was indicted for taking a literally money in a suitcase
39:10
bribe his office
39:14
Adam Curry: it's the same thing, man. It's exactly the same
39:16
thing. It's the same thing.
39:18
Unknown: The similarities are some remarkable similarities to
39:21
the reported charges against Mr. Trump today, for example, and
39:25
vice president Spiro Agnes case they charged him with taking
39:29
illicit payments while he was in the White House, right. In
39:33
Trump's case, it's believed that the charges against him include
39:36
him making illicit payments while he was in the White House.
39:40
Adam Curry: That's very similar, not so much the same. Everyone's
39:44
so creative.
39:45
John C Dvorak: And my understanding was that his
39:47
illicit payments came from before he was in the White
39:50
House. Yes. And came from his attorney. Not from him. It was
39:53
before he would deed we didn't want it to get into the
39:55
campaign. That's why it was done. It was before he was in
39:57
the White House fake news. So she goes didn't even have that
40:00
part accurate. Yes, factcheck
40:03
Unknown: false. And while Trump and Agnew were both enormously
40:07
polarizing and aggressive, very hard, right politicians,
40:11
Adam Curry: I don't know. I'm too young for Spiro Agnew. Is
40:16
that true? Yes.
40:17
John C Dvorak: I knew Agnew was yeah, he was. He was as he was
40:19
Martin Malik. He was funny. It was funny. So I was trying to
40:22
say some crazy stuff. Okay, well, good. And this was the era
40:26
when I was a Democrat. So each of which were you.
40:29
Adam Curry: Were you happy? Would you hooting and hollering
40:31
when he got indicted? We
40:34
Unknown: get the bastard. Yeah.
40:38
Each of which each of them did some enormously controversial,
40:41
maybe even arguably illegal things while in office.
40:44
Ultimately, what they were both charged with, were things that
40:50
were about being venal and petty and their financial charges but
40:55
in a very small change sort of way
40:57
Adam Curry: dice roll. I think taking bribes in the in the
41:00
White House is not quite a small thing.
41:04
John C Dvorak: No, it wasn't at all. And it was there's some
41:07
evidence that Nixon did something similar. A suitcase
41:10
with a million dollars and it was the way it was told but but
41:14
this Agnew thing was just a straight up bribe right in his
41:17
office and does nothing compared to being extorted.
41:24
Adam Curry: Now, let's go to Stephanie rule. You know, she's
41:27
the former Wall Street girl that all the boys in the trading desk
41:30
loathed.
41:31
Unknown: After Donald Trump's historic indictment, a well
41:34
known disinformation tracking group says there are no credible
41:38
threats of violence or plans for large demonstrations as of now,
41:42
but some on the far right, including Marjorie Taylor Greene
41:45
are encouraging protests. Oh, NBC News National Security
41:48
Analyst Frank bluesy is with us. He's also the former Assistant
41:52
Director for the FBI. Frank, you track this stuff. What do you
41:55
think we're,
41:56
what concerns me the most is people riling up lone offenders
42:01
who lone offenders only have to get it right. Once the FBI needs
42:06
to get it right. Every single day lone offenders
42:09
Adam Curry: is just a variation of the lone wolf.
42:13
John C Dvorak: It is I think it is the lone wolf. I don't like
42:16
using that term anymore.
42:17
Unknown: Those lone offenders are often wound up and worked
42:22
into a frenzy online. And that starts with conspiracy
42:25
theorists.
42:27
Adam Curry: Unlike, unlike the day of the Trans Day of
42:32
vengeance, yeah.
42:33
Unknown: Okay. And that starts with conspiracy theorists
42:36
pushing lies, they get bigger and bigger. Hey,
42:40
Adam Curry: who are you calling conspiracy theorists?
42:41
Unknown: Are you watching for that now? Because there's a lot
42:44
of people using the internet to come up a
42:46
John C Dvorak: woman a professional broadcaster? She
42:48
sucks.
42:49
Adam Curry: No, she used to be a Wall Street trader is I heard
42:54
from the former New York banker then, you know, all the guys at
42:57
the trading desk. They liked her. I don't know what that
42:59
meant. But he said that
43:00
Unknown: means are you watching for that now? Because there's a
43:03
lot of people using the internet to come up with all sorts of
43:07
explanations that make no sense.
43:09
John C Dvorak: It means what it means the same way she got this
43:12
job,
43:13
Unknown: or what's going on for an indictment that again, is
43:16
sealed.
43:17
Yeah. Chief among the the disinformation, the conspiracy
43:20
theories is of course, that's a couple things. One, the federal
43:23
government the DOJ somehow has ordered the Manhattan DA to do
43:27
this. That simply is ignorance of how the system works. But no
43:31
one lets facts get in the way of a perfectly good conspiracy
43:34
theory. The other thing that's that's troubling when
43:36
Adam Curry: it what was the conspiracy theory, because I
43:38
usually come up with him. So I didn't grow government,
43:40
Unknown: the DOJ somehow has ordered the Manhattan DA to do
43:44
this. That simply is ignorance of how the system works. But no
43:47
one lets facts get in the way of a perfectly good conspiracy
43:50
theory. The other thing that's troubling is that attack on
43:53
George Soros that he's behind everything that's wrong with
43:56
here we go with Trump world and that somehow he he donated money
44:00
specifically to Alvin Bragg, and he's making this happen when the
44:03
facts are. What we know is that George Soros has never directly
44:07
donated money to Alvin Bragg, but rather to a group called The
44:11
Color of Change, which ended up giving some money to Alvin
44:14
Bragg, but he's never even met or communicated with Elvin
44:17
Bragg. So again, I think keep putting the facts out there,
44:22
counter the disinformation.
44:23
Adam Curry: Now this was kind of just the setup because I knew
44:26
this was going to happen, and I wish I would have mentioned it
44:29
because we thought they were going on vacation. Of course,
44:32
when you talk about sorrows, then you know what, what is
44:35
always what always comes back is no, that's anti semitic. If
44:40
you're talking about why
44:41
John C Dvorak: I've got this covered in my PBS clips on the
44:44
top right, then I'll pull this stunt.
44:46
Adam Curry: I'll do these two and then you go to PBS. How's
44:49
that sound? Like it Okay, morning, Joe. They really
44:53
ratchet it up.
44:55
Unknown: You can't help himself Ron DeSantis embarrassed
44:57
himself.
44:58
Adam Curry: Oh, wait, let me let me read A tweet from Ron
45:00
DeSantis DeSantis tweeted, the weaponization of the legal
45:05
system to advance a political agenda turns the rule of law on
45:08
its head. It is unAmerican. The Soros backed Manhattan District
45:12
backed Manhattan district attorney has consistently bent
45:16
the law to downgrade felonies and to excuse criminal conduct
45:19
yet. Now he is stretching the law to target a political
45:23
opponent. And then he go That's so embarrassing. No, that's anti
45:29
semitic embarrassed
45:30
John C Dvorak: themselves. That's Jew
45:31
Adam Curry: hate.
45:32
John C Dvorak: You know what? Wait wait days, he left out the
45:36
part that he was naked while doing that tweet that
45:40
Unknown: he can't help himself, Ron DeSantis embarrassed himself
45:44
by saying he was gonna fight extradition charges like he has
45:47
any say yummy. Again, one more Republican that really just
45:50
doesn't give a damn about the Constitution of the United
45:52
States. And of course, you gotta Yeah, you gotta just
45:57
Adam Curry: hold on before we move on. So what DeSantis said
46:02
is Florida will not assist in an extradition request, given the
46:05
questionable circumstances at issue with this Soros back
46:08
Manhattan prosecutor and his political agenda. So what is the
46:12
constitutional law about states cooperating with each other when
46:16
it comes to an extradition request?
46:20
John C Dvorak: I think that's extra cause I don't think that's
46:23
in the constitution. So you can state rights, you can do what
46:26
you want. You don't have to extradite anybody. Thank you.
46:30
Unknown: What's this line? Look
46:31
at the Soros back now. It's just Jews. They're attacking Jewish
46:35
international bankers. It's what anti
46:38
Adam Curry: whites they're attacking Jewish international
46:41
globalist bankers
46:43
Unknown: there. Yeah, well, it
46:44
gets better Jewish international bankers,
46:47
Adam Curry: Jewish international bankers.
46:50
Unknown: It's what anti Semites have been doing for hundreds of
46:53
years attacking Jewish international bankers. That's
47:00
what they do. They try to blame everything on Jewish
47:03
international bankers think
47:05
Adam Curry: he's saying enough. Is he repeating Jewish
47:07
international bankers enough? And I don't think last time I
47:11
checked, Soros is a banker. He's a hedge fund guy at best
47:16
Unknown: Jewish international bankers. That's what they do.
47:21
They try to blame everything on Jewish international bankers.
47:25
It's Germany. 1933. But why does Ron DeSantis further embarrass
47:30
himself by saying I'm gonna ignore the Constitution? And I'm
47:33
not going to extradite Trump to New York.
47:36
Adam Curry: So was it Jewish international bankers who the
47:40
Nazis went after in 1933
47:43
John C Dvorak: that that I know of, there's another thing
47:46
they're all circling the WAG all these guys now I find this
47:49
distressing. Well, wait,
47:50
Adam Curry: wait for joy read this. They're
47:52
John C Dvorak: all they're all circling the wagons around
47:55
Soros, who is a creep, and he was a Nazi. And he Vinnie sent
48:01
his own people to the gas chamber and did so with glee and
48:05
thought it was the best time of his life. We've got clips of
48:08
this.
48:09
Adam Curry: I love it when you talk about this. And a train
48:11
actually honks its horn in the background. That is the best.
48:16
Yes, we have this multitude of clips. And that was one of the
48:20
happiest times of his life. That's exactly exactly what he
48:24
said. But we forgot one little extra thing about this. It's not
48:29
just the Jewish international bankers. Alvin Bragg is black.
48:34
Unknown: You know, Donald Trump is now bragging, but he's raised
48:36
something like $4 million. He's trying to he's sort of out there
48:39
with a lot of bravado, as if he's not afraid at all. But we
48:42
now know that this is going to be a real booking. He's gonna
48:45
get his fingerprints taken. He's gonna go through what you had to
48:47
go through.
48:48
Not exactly, not exactly the same. Not exactly. Cohen again.
48:53
And well, it's gonna be very different. I mean, He is the
48:55
former president of the United States. And there's a certain
48:58
difference, you know, I was handcuffed. Don't forget, I went
49:01
through that processing twice. Second time with the
49:04
unconstitutional remain.
49:05
Adam Curry: I've said this is not the one I want to play from.
49:07
This is the one I want to play from joy read.
49:09
Unknown: My editorial comment is it is a statement without
49:11
dignity. The governor of Florida does not know the facts. So he
49:15
cannot talk about questionable facts. In this case. He doesn't
49:17
know them. Only the grand jury knows and this is a sealed
49:19
indictment. So he's making a statement about something he
49:21
doesn't know the
49:22
Adam Curry: answer to. Apparently, everyone else at
49:24
MSNBC knows what's going to happen to
49:26
Unknown: him throwing out as you said, Andrew, dog whistles, you
49:29
know, historically. I mean, this idea among the right, that
49:36
African Americans that black folks who were in positions are
49:41
controlled by some Jewish overseer who's pulling their
49:45
strings.
49:46
Adam Curry: I love this. She took it to the Mac so not only
49:49
is it is it, visit anti symmetric against Jewish
49:53
international bankers, but you know, the bankers they control
49:56
the blacks come and read take it home.
50:00
Unknown: That's what that statement reads like. And
50:02
perhaps this governor should maybe read a history book to
50:05
speak because he might not understand what he is
50:08
channeling. But he is channeling an era in American history that
50:12
is one of the most ugly that he's probably not allowed to be
50:15
taught in school. But that idea, prosecutor and by the way, it's
50:19
not just this prosecutor Android, I'll let you go on this
50:22
and let you have a final word on it. It was a grand jury that
50:25
looked at facts that looked at evidence. And this grand jury
50:30
took a vote which is part of our system. And so for the governor
50:34
of one of our largest states, and most important states to
50:37
throw out a miasma of words that trigger the far right for his
50:44
political ambitions that really sound like that old meme that
50:48
this black prosecutor must be under the secret control of
50:51
this, you know, murky Jewish millionaire. That could be 1950
50:57
and it is it is not dignified. It's absolutely beneath the
51:01
dignity of a governor.
51:02
Adam Curry: I love it. It's 1933 it's 1950 I love my asthma. i
51:08
This is a word I was not familiar with, which is a
51:11
vaporous exaltation formerly believed to cause disease.
51:18
miasma as a great word,
51:22
John C Dvorak: not sure she used it correctly.
51:24
Adam Curry: She didn't use it in the right sentence, that's for
51:26
sure. But so there you go. That's that's that's what they
51:28
got. Your anti semitic you're racist. You're igniting horrible
51:33
things from the past 1933 1950 Whoa. Did that happen when they
51:41
when they arrested when they indicted Spiro Agnew was
51:46
everyone all like you know and spear Agnew was? What was he?
51:51
What is Agnew Greek? S did they had Greek do they invoke any of
51:56
these these things any of that?
51:58
John C Dvorak: No. This is all recent.
52:01
Adam Curry: So PBS did the same apparently they had the same
52:04
John C Dvorak: swell and gonna get it they did a more elaborate
52:06
report this long a bunch of clips but I'm good. It brings in
52:09
our friend our new friend the new friend. We haven't missed a
52:13
woman Laura Laura something Lopez.
52:16
Adam Curry: Oh yes, she's the new stars the
52:19
John C Dvorak: one who came out and said that the joy George
52:22
Floyd riots in Portland and 2020 We're from the right wing there
52:26
right
52:27
Adam Curry: we have riots right wing riots. Yes, of course.
52:29
John C Dvorak: He's got another one. In this little pile of crap
52:34
that we're gonna listen to from PBS which has gone off the deep
52:37
gun woke Yes. Let's start with clip one
52:41
Unknown: New York City on alert tonight for potential unrest
52:44
following the indictment of Donald Trump the first former
52:48
president to be charged with a crime. Mr. Trump previously
52:51
warned of potential death and destruction if charges were
52:55
brought. The indictment reportedly includes more than 30
52:58
counts stemming from hush money payments allegedly paid to
53:02
stormy Daniels during the 2001 campaign. While the specific
53:05
charges Mr. Trump faces
53:08
Adam Curry: I can just see that insert shot of her going Hi
53:11
everyone. Well done yield.
53:15
Unknown: political backlash was fast and fierce. Mr. Trump's
53:19
slamming Manhattan district attorney Alvin Bragg as a
53:22
disgrace and dismissing the case as another witch hunt who's
53:25
ready to fight his attorney says the former president was shocked
53:29
by news of the indictment despite Mr. Trump saying on
53:31
social media earlier this month, he expected to be arrested in
53:35
connection with the investigation.
53:37
I've never been more angry about a charge because today, the rule
53:41
of law in the United States of America died.
53:44
Former President Trump's supporters quickly flocked to
53:47
his Florida home if we don't
53:48
stand up for what's right, then we're no better than Venezuela.
53:54
And many of his potential 2024 rivals rushed to his defense the
53:58
American people will see this for what it is former Vice
54:01
President Mike Pence, who has been critical of Mr. Trump's
54:04
role in the January 6 insurrection, said these charges
54:08
go too far.
54:09
The unprecedented indictment of a former president of the United
54:12
States for a campaign finance issue is an outrage. And I think
54:17
it's it's clear to the overwhelming majority of the
54:19
American people that this is nothing short of a of a
54:22
political prosecution.
54:24
Florida Governor Ron DeSantis called the indictment on
54:26
American and former Arkansas Governor ASA Hutchinson, who
54:30
previously said Mr. Trump's had dropped out of the 2024 race if
54:34
he was indicted, called the news a dark day for America, adding
54:39
Well Mr. Trump is presumed innocent. The grand jury found
54:42
credible facts to support the charges. For his part Donald
54:45
Trump spent last night on the phone shoring up support among
54:48
Republican allies in Congress.
54:50
Adam Curry: I just love how they all know exactly what the
54:53
indictment is. But no one knows and we don't really know. I
54:57
mean, they're not even saying people close to the grand jury
55:00
Are you familiar with the grand jury's thinking? None of that.
55:04
And did they mention in this report as you go through your,
55:07
your, your presentation here that the Jacob Chancellor the so
55:11
called Q anon Shaman was released from prison 14 months
55:14
early.
55:16
John C Dvorak: That was mentioned but not in this report
55:18
now. Okay,
55:18
Adam Curry: which is kind of interesting.
55:22
John C Dvorak: Yeah, well, they got I think Tucker had done, I
55:25
think is Tucker's report. They got him out.
55:27
Adam Curry: Yeah. Well, they obviously knew that they
55:30
couldn't keep him they couldn't they couldn't do anything with
55:32
them. Anyway, go ahead. All right.
55:36
John C Dvorak: Onward. This is
55:37
Unknown: legal voodoo. You got a misdemeanor that's been made a
55:41
felony Lindy Hop. Nobody in the history of New York City has
55:45
ever been prosecuted under this theory except for Donald J.
55:50
Trump. House Speaker
55:51
Kevin McCarthy accused the Manhattan DA of weaponizing our
55:54
sacred system of justice and said House Republicans would
55:57
investigate Alvin Bragg's actions. As for reaction from
56:01
the White House, I'm no common. President Biden choosing not to
56:04
weigh in, as he spoke to reporters don't know what's
56:07
going on. The current president opting to stay out of an active
56:10
criminal matter while focusing on his own agenda.
56:13
I decided that really, my loyalty can no longer be to a
56:17
man who doesn't deserve it.
56:19
But the key witness Michael Cohen, who spent hours
56:22
testifying to the grand jury in recent weeks, and previously
56:25
pleaded guilty to federal charges connected to the hush
56:28
money payments, said Mr. Trump is finally being held
56:31
accountable.
56:32
He's seething right now he is beyond angry. He doesn't
56:36
understand accountability. And right now, Alvin breg, has
56:41
finally put that into his lap.
56:43
Donald Trump is expected to be in court for the first time
56:46
Tuesday afternoon. When Donald Trump is arraigned on the 15th
56:50
floor of the courthouse behind me he'll have to enter a plea on
56:52
the charges. It's not clear whether he'll be handcuffed
56:56
during that appearance, but we know he will be photographed,
56:58
fingerprinted and processed for a felony arrest. his legal team
57:02
is expected to vigorously fight these charges. But a timeline
57:06
for a potential trial right now remains unclear. Meantime, we
57:10
have not seen any demonstrators or protesters today. But given
57:14
concerns about the potential for violence on the scale of what
57:17
transpired during the January 6. insurrection. The NYPD says it's
57:22
working with its law enforcement partners at every level of
57:25
government to prepare accordingly.
57:29
John C Dvorak: Which they didn't do it January 6, even though
57:32
they were given a heads up.
57:34
Adam Curry: Just question it had besides the Hi everybody. Did
57:37
they have stormy Daniels on any in any of these?
57:41
John C Dvorak: I have not seen stormy Daniels and also in all,
57:43
especially the normal media that M five m left wing media. I
57:48
would say that there's not one mention or even a showing of his
57:54
brags the the DA is when he ran for office going on and on it
57:58
before he while he was running there. He's going to get
58:01
trumped. That's his promise. times we think that would have
58:04
something to do with the analysis
58:07
Adam Curry: times radio. I've 19 seconds of stormy Daniels.
58:12
That's the times in the UK. They had her on and I think I didn't
58:17
want to play this 19 seconds. When you hear it, you'll
58:20
understand why and she may not be the best witness.
58:23
Unknown: I was about to ask how you feel about potentially
58:26
taking the stand and potentially having to face Trump in court.
58:31
You know, I've seen him Nagin he's a lot as a way you can be
58:35
scarier with this close on and after what Abinadi put me
58:38
through last January the coke you know I'm not scared
58:43
Adam Curry: Thank you. Yeah, she's coked up man
58:46
John C Dvorak: that's cool that's that's that's a cocaine
58:48
even to talk like this you know you just bought her got
58:52
assaulted like Kermit the Frog. Possible if it uses salt to get
58:56
good dough is it's all clogged up.
58:58
Adam Curry: No wonder they don't have sound bites over. Know
59:02
what? She's gonna be great on the stand. Excellent point.
59:05
Yeah. Okay. Great.
59:10
John C Dvorak: Well, you know that he has a tidy beat as Okay,
59:13
now. Now we go to this is more of the PBS but this actually
59:17
changed. They've changed from the report. Now we're going into
59:20
the analysis studio bringing this we bring in Ms. Lopez, who,
59:24
who's talking about before previously talked about the
59:27
right wing riots, protesting George Floyd.
59:32
Adam Curry: Yes. Okay. I
59:34
Unknown: think all of this here is our White House correspondent
59:37
Laura bro Lopes. Good to see you, Laura. It's good to see
59:39
you. So what are you hearing from people you're talking to
59:41
about? You're learning racial implications of Trump's bid. He
59:44
is a current candidate for president and the rest of the
59:47
2024 GOP presidential field.
59:49
So first off this indictment does not legally disqualify the
59:53
former president from running so he is continuing to run. But I
59:56
spoke to a number of GOP strategists who told me that In
1:00:00
the short term, they believe that this helps Trump because
1:00:03
essentially it requires all of his rivals or would be rivals to
1:00:07
have to respond to him to talk about him to define themselves
1:00:10
in association with him. And now whether or not that extends all
1:00:14
the way through the primary into the nomination is a big
1:00:17
question. There's a lot of time left on the board.
1:00:19
So we've heard repeatedly Mr. Trump and his Republican allies
1:00:22
calling out the what they call the weaponization of the justice
1:00:25
system calling all these investigations witch hunts, when
1:00:28
you talk to extremism experts in particular, what did they tell
1:00:31
you about the implications of that kind of language?
1:00:33
Adam Curry: Wait a minute, do we have any quotes from said
1:00:36
extremism experts? This is a new gig. I haven't heard of the
1:00:39
extremists. I like it.
1:00:41
Unknown: So that language that you just mentioned on no
1:00:43
weaponization has been used by Trump as well as House GOP
1:00:47
leaders like Kevin McCarthy and Steve Scalise and a number of
1:00:50
other Republicans. They've also used words like quote,
1:00:53
persecution, witch hunt, and I spoke to historian Ruth Bengi
1:00:56
out of New York University today, and she diagnosed that
1:01:00
victimization like, Oh,
1:01:00
Adam Curry: I'm sorry. The question was, what are the
1:01:04
extremism experts saying? And apparently she's the expert. And
1:01:08
then there's some librarian or something she brings into it.
1:01:11
This is
1:01:11
John C Dvorak: a she brought it into his story and from when
1:01:13
they didn't do your thing at NYU,
1:01:15
Adam Curry: okay. Okay, so that's the extreme is all right.
1:01:17
Well, she
1:01:18
John C Dvorak: I guess she is, but then I want to play
1:01:21
Adam Curry: it again. It's almost over I play together.
1:01:23
Unknown: It's in particular, what did they tell you about the
1:01:25
implications of that kind of language?
1:01:27
So that language that you just mentioned, I'm now weaponization
1:01:30
has been used by Trump as well as House GOP leaders like Kevin
1:01:34
McCarthy and Steve Scalise and a number of other Republicans.
1:01:37
They've also used words like quote, persecution, witch hunt,
1:01:40
and I spoke to historian Ruth Bengi out of New York University
1:01:43
today, and she diagnosed that victimization language
1:01:46
this is a talking points of authoritarians to try and get
1:01:50
the public to see the forces against them as discredited
1:01:56
partisan hacks and fests retain their reputation for being the
1:02:02
ones who are going to drain the swamp, which was Mussolini
1:02:05
slogan initially? Ah
1:02:10
Adam Curry: okay, it's in the show notes. Yes. Yes, yes. In
1:02:13
the
1:02:13
John C Dvorak: show notes. This is bullcrap. This Mussolini
1:02:18
thing came out of it at Albright the Madeleine Albright wrote a
1:02:24
book and she threw it in there as a toss away that did that he
1:02:28
did. He did actually say drain the swamp a couple of times,
1:02:31
referring to actual swamps that were needed that needed
1:02:36
draining. Are you kidding me? No, not real. And so PolitiFact
1:02:45
and it's in the show notes, had done a done research on this
1:02:48
because it was like sounded like bull crap to them. And it turned
1:02:52
out to be bullcrap. Leaney never used drain the swamps in the
1:02:56
sense that Trump did and then they use the term in their
1:02:59
little report that this phrase used as Trump uses it is all
1:03:03
American is American is apple pies, exactly what they said,
1:03:07
interesting, this woman who's a historian, who's an expert, I
1:03:11
guess that in some sort of male or Attarian
1:03:14
Adam Curry: read from her from her bio, Ruth, these, please.
1:03:18
Ben Keops is a historian who writes about authoritarianism,
1:03:22
democracy protection and propaganda. She is a professor
1:03:26
of history and Italian studies at New York University, the
1:03:32
recipient of Guggenheim Fulbright and other fellowships
1:03:35
and advisor to protect democracy. And she's an MSNBC
1:03:39
opinion, opinion columnist. So she's not an expert on
1:03:44
terrorism, or what wasn't extremism, extremism, but
1:03:49
authoritarianism, and specifically history and Italian
1:03:52
studies. And she doesn't even know that this is bullcrap.
1:03:55
Regarding Mussolini.
1:03:58
John C Dvorak: She doesn't want to know she said classic spook.
1:04:01
I don't want to become a liberal NYU professor, that's just kind
1:04:05
of like step into a certain way of thinking, and she's
1:04:08
disqualified. Unless PolitiFact got it wrong, which doesn't seem
1:04:12
to be the case. They were very thorough. She she wrote the
1:04:15
Adam Curry: book, strong men, Mussolini, to the present,
1:04:19
published in 2020, a look at how illiberal leaders use
1:04:23
propaganda, corruption, violence and machismo and how they can be
1:04:27
defeated. Wow.
1:04:32
John C Dvorak: So good point is this is another example to me.
1:04:36
Having done you know, a look at it, and then other people have,
1:04:41
I guess, because this is very, this was controversial when
1:04:43
Madeleine Albright made the claim, which is where I think
1:04:46
she got this idea I'm Laura bringing Laura Lopez to
1:04:53
something look I can't pronounce her middle name is like
1:04:56
convoluted. Laura Lopez Reading this stuff in this PBS has
1:05:02
really lost it. Oh yeah,
1:05:05
Unknown: just play a clip for.
1:05:07
So you heard Ruth say there that those are hallmarks of
1:05:10
authoritarian movements and she also said traits of
1:05:13
authoritarian movements are attacking the press attacking
1:05:15
judges attacking prosecutors.
1:05:17
What about the prospects of political violence here? We've
1:05:20
heard Mr. Trump calling for protests for a week we saw Jeff
1:05:23
reporting there in New York that New York officials are ramping
1:05:25
up their security. Mr. Trump has promised death and destruction
1:05:28
if there was an indictment. What should we what should we look
1:05:31
for ahead?
1:05:33
John C Dvorak: Okay, where did Trump now this is a Laura's
1:05:37
thing. This is the host woman. When did Trump promise death and
1:05:46
destruction? She said she literally said he promised this
1:05:52
a news organization PBS. He promised death and destruction
1:05:57
promised it can where can we
1:05:59
Adam Curry: listen to when I was so short? I want to hear it
1:06:01
again.
1:06:01
Unknown: So you heard Ruth say there that those are hallmarks
1:06:04
of authoritarian movements. And she also said traits of
1:06:07
authoritarian movements are attacking the press, attacking
1:06:10
judges attacking prosecutors.
1:06:11
What about the prospects of political violence here? We've
1:06:14
heard Mr. Trump calling for protests for a week we saw Jeff
1:06:17
reporting there in New York that New York officials are ramping
1:06:19
up their security. Mr. Trump has promised death and destruction
1:06:23
if there was an indictment. What should we what should we look
1:06:25
for?
1:06:29
Adam Curry: Death and destruction,
1:06:31
John C Dvorak: the promise. Now he mentioned he mentioned death
1:06:35
and destruction. Yes. Warning that anything could happen. You
1:06:40
have to carefully see it was if it was couched but he did not
1:06:43
promise death and destruction. This is a lie. This is yet
1:06:48
another PBS lie. Will people stop giving them money and give
1:06:52
us the money? Stop giving them money. Right on, right last
1:07:02
clip.
1:07:03
Unknown: So on that security that New York PD is ramping up
1:07:06
Marjorie Taylor Greene, big ally of Trump, a House Republicans
1:07:10
said that she's headed to New York on Tuesday for the
1:07:15
arraignment. She tweeted that today saying that she's going to
1:07:18
be going there and calling for protests. Also calling it a
1:07:22
witch hunt in her tweet that also comes on as foxes, Tucker
1:07:27
Carlson on air as he's talking about the indictment is telling
1:07:31
his viewers that it's probably not a good time for them to get
1:07:34
rid of their AR fifteens. And it also comes as Trump and a number
1:07:38
of his allies have been using dog whistle attacks, anti
1:07:42
semitic attacks against as when they attack da Alvin Bragg by
1:07:47
saying that he is backed by George Soros who is Jewish.
1:07:51
Adam Curry: She wish did she go into it and explain how that is
1:07:54
a dog whistle or is that just something we eat? That's
1:07:57
John C Dvorak: not just that was kind of it goes on and on. But
1:07:59
it doesn't go into any details about how the dog whistle works.
1:08:02
But there you go again. Now we can't say anything about George
1:08:06
Soros. Because if you do, if you criticize George Soros, you're
1:08:12
you're being anti semitic. How does that work?
1:08:15
Adam Curry: Well, I guess you can't criticize Jamie Dimon then
1:08:18
John C Dvorak: either you can't criticize any Jew I guess.
1:08:22
Adam Curry: Even though there's now Sergey Brin has been
1:08:28
subpoenaed and and Michael Ovitz to testify in this JP Morgan
1:08:34
case where Jamie Dimon knew that Epstein was was paying off sex
1:08:40
slaves. I guess we can't talk about that then. No, no.
1:08:45
John C Dvorak: Can't you can't criticize Epstein isn't a
1:08:48
Jewish. You can't criticize Jeffrey Epstein. You're anti
1:08:52
semitic. This is bull crap. This is a smokescreen. This is a way
1:08:57
to cover up and why again, I asked the question this the last
1:09:00
night that was the last clip. I'm asking the question. Why are
1:09:03
they circling the wagons around Soros? What's wrong with this
1:09:07
picture? What is wrong with public broadcasting?
1:09:12
Adam Curry: He probably funds them to Hello. And you want to
1:09:16
you want to see how much the Open Society Institute gives to
1:09:19
PBS I can only guess. Even though interestingly so Soros is
1:09:25
I mean he's
1:09:26
John C Dvorak: he's almost no he's not even in the he's not
1:09:28
even in the picture. They were just right on his son Alex. But
1:09:32
the other point is it's not even just open source open or open
1:09:35
whatever it's called Open Society Institute open society.
1:09:38
It's a bunch of other ones he's got like there's 30 or 40 of
1:09:42
these in fact the one they mentioned earlier and and one of
1:09:44
your reports was also from Monday through some other
1:09:47
operation to the to this brag character. This is really
1:09:51
pathetic. This is not giving us the public. What this is not
1:09:55
covering the news at all. This is just covering their ass. You
1:10:00
Adam Curry: It's actually helping Kanye is polite in an
1:10:02
odd, odd way. Very odd way. All right, let's listen to a couple
1:10:10
politicians for a second. Because Lindy Hop, Lady G was in
1:10:14
tears almost on Sean Hannity show.
1:10:16
Unknown: So what's behind all this hatred? They tried to
1:10:20
destroy Kavanaugh because they wanted to keep the Supreme Court
1:10:23
seat open. They're trying to destroy Donald Trump because
1:10:27
they fear him at the ballot box. To the Conservatives out there.
1:10:31
Make sure you vote. If you got friends make sure they vote if
1:10:35
you don't have any friends, go make some friends. But you need
1:10:39
to help this man Donald J. Trump.
1:10:41
Adam Curry: Make some friends. I'm so outraged. I need friends.
1:10:45
They're trying
1:10:45
John C Dvorak: to review don't have friends. Listen
1:10:48
Unknown: again to the Conservatives out there. Make
1:10:51
sure you vote. If you got friends make sure they vote if
1:10:54
you don't have any friends. Go make some friends.
1:10:59
Adam Curry: If you don't have any friends, go find some make
1:11:02
some friends. You need
1:11:03
Unknown: friends, but you need to help this man Donald Trump.
1:11:06
Hilarious. They're trying to drain him dry. He's more money
1:11:11
on lawyer.
1:11:11
Adam Curry: Oh, that's I think stormy did a good job on that.
1:11:14
They're trying to drain dry.
1:11:17
Unknown: More money on lawyers than most people spend on
1:11:19
campaigns. They're trying to bleed him dry. Donald J
1:11:23
trump.com. Go tonight. Give the president some money to fight
1:11:28
this bullshit. To destroy America. We're gonna fight back
1:11:33
at the ballot box. We're not gonna give in. How does this end
1:11:37
Shawn Trump wins in court and he wins the election. That's how
1:11:41
this wins ends.
1:11:43
Adam Curry: Wow. And I only saw a little bit of of Tucker I
1:11:47
think Thursday night because I will of course I was curious as
1:11:51
it came out during the show day, of course. And he had what's his
1:11:56
face? The guy from the blaze on the black guy who? Like
1:12:03
John C Dvorak: guy from the Blaze? Oh, yeah. Whitmore Well,
1:12:05
yeah, not Whitmore, football. data analysts, Jason
1:12:11
Adam Curry: Jason Whitlock. Whitlock? There we go. And he
1:12:14
said bullshit. And so there was bullshit twice on Fox. You're
1:12:19
listening to our show? You I mean, we, when we say bullshit,
1:12:23
it's rare. We say bull crap.
1:12:25
John C Dvorak: I just tried to say bull crap. So do I have 10
1:12:28
Bull crabs? funnier sounding? I mean, that's whenever you got
1:12:31
Lauren bobberts little comment, which is I Call Bull crap,
1:12:35
right. I still think is.
1:12:38
Adam Curry: I think we have that ISO Don't
1:12:42
John C Dvorak: be under bowburn.
1:12:43
Adam Curry: I think this is it. I Call Bull crap. Yes.
1:12:47
John C Dvorak: It's funnier.
1:12:48
Adam Curry: But then he had Glenn Beck on. Glenn Beck is a
1:12:53
Trump hater. Am I incorrect? Is he not always been well, hater?
1:12:57
John C Dvorak: It's one of those. It's always Mark Levin
1:13:00
the great one. Yeah. He was a Trump hater. And I think Hannity
1:13:02
was too to be honest about because he was a Bush family
1:13:05
guy. So he would be for Jeb. And yeah, so they all hated Trump.
1:13:09
And I tried to share with the three of them that hated Trump.
1:13:15
Adam Curry: Wait, did you see what happened?
1:13:19
John C Dvorak: With Beck? Yeah. No,
1:13:21
Adam Curry: he put on a maga hat. He said I'm Maga now and he
1:13:27
put on a an autographed by Trump, which I know is next to
1:13:31
his Rush Limbaugh microphone and his studio since I've been
1:13:36
there. In his display case, he had a Trump hat signed by Trump.
1:13:40
He ended up with the Rush Limbaugh mic while he says it's
1:13:43
the one Yeah. Is it gold plated? Yeah. That had been in his
1:13:47
museum. He has some crazy stuff in his museum. He's got all
1:13:51
kinds of stuff from presidents and
1:13:53
John C Dvorak: yeah, he looks like a hoarder. Yeah, he,
1:13:55
hoarder.
1:13:58
Adam Curry: He's a hoarder, but he has a guide to write it down
1:14:00
and arrange it. So that you know, that's called a museum.
1:14:03
John C Dvorak: The hoarder was it was a manager. Okay.
1:14:08
Adam Curry: So and that to me was like, Whoa, there's Beck
1:14:11
going all Maga. That was very interesting. So now let's hear
1:14:17
from CBS. And we'll kind of wrap it up for me. I think, Elizabeth
1:14:21
Warren, we need to have another politician on. Here she is,
1:14:25
Unknown: as we've been saying all morning. unprecedent,
1:14:27
uncharted territory, unprecedented motions. What was
1:14:31
your reaction when you heard
1:14:33
that? No one is above the law, not even a former president of
1:14:37
the United States. That's a very sober time for our country. A
1:14:41
real moment in history.
1:14:43
Adam Curry: Oh, no, she's, she's smart. She's smart here. And
1:14:46
yep.
1:14:46
Unknown: I think the most important part of this is to say
1:14:49
that a foundational piece of our democracy is holding that it is
1:14:53
possible to have an independent investigation to go wherever the
1:14:56
facts lead, and then to follow the process through And that's
1:15:00
going to mean to follow it all the way through, including,
1:15:04
assuming there is an arrest. If there's a trial, Donald Trump
1:15:07
can plead not guilty, he can bring whatever evidence he wants
1:15:10
it or we know this in school,
1:15:11
we're always taught no one is above the law.
1:15:13
Adam Curry: Interesting how she also kind of alludes to the fact
1:15:16
that he can prove he's not guilty. You're not interesting,
1:15:20
These people are nuts. He can prove that he's not guilty.
1:15:24
That's not how it works. But Is that Is that some kind of evil
1:15:29
conditioning that has now come into play?
1:15:31
John C Dvorak: I think you may have stumbled onto something. It
1:15:34
happened from time because I hadn't noticed any of this and
1:15:37
Butch Naja mentioned it is kind of a I wouldn't call it NLP, but
1:15:41
it's definitely some sort of conditioning that they were
1:15:44
you're guilty until you can prove yourself innocent.
1:15:47
Adam Curry: The next clip from her
1:15:48
Unknown: Why are no Republican saying this, we hear Lindsey
1:15:51
Graham saying this is legal voodoo, political persecution,
1:15:55
political hatred, that this is all about a political witch
1:15:58
hunt. Why are there no Republicans out one saying that
1:16:02
no one is above the law, that this is all about politics? i
1:16:05
It's hard not to see it. It's hard not to see a political lens
1:16:09
on this, is it not?
1:16:11
I can't answer for the Republicans, I can only answer
1:16:14
for myself. And for myself, it's about backing off and letting
1:16:19
the system work. Trust in the process. There is no reason to
1:16:23
believe there's been anything other than an independent
1:16:26
investigation. It's walked through all the steps. It is a
1:16:30
grand jury, according to the evidence released that
1:16:33
Adam Curry: evidence released. What have you seen any evidence
1:16:36
released? This, this, she's doing some kind of SIOP here
1:16:41
Unknown: jury according to the evidence release, that has voted
1:16:44
independently. And we will go forward with that process. And
1:16:48
that process offers plenty of opportunity for Donald Trump or
1:16:53
anyone else accused of a crime to bring forward whatever
1:16:57
evidence they want to use whatever part of the legal
1:17:00
system they want. But we follow the law for everyone because
1:17:03
it's foundational in our democracy. I
1:17:06
Adam Curry: remember sitting in class Wow, well, before before,
1:17:11
what's your face goes into remember sitting in class, she
1:17:14
does it again here. It's foundational to our democracy.
1:17:17
You can bring anything you want, you can follow. I'm gonna play
1:17:20
that again. You can follow you could follow the law, you can
1:17:23
bring anything you want to prove your innocence, no Pocahontas
1:17:27
that has
1:17:28
Unknown: voted independently. And we will go forward with that
1:17:32
process. And that process,
1:17:33
Adam Curry: that process is schoolmarm is going to explain
1:17:36
that process now offers plenty
1:17:38
Unknown: of opportunity for Donald Trump or anyone else
1:17:41
accused of a crime, to bring forward whatever evidence they
1:17:44
want to use whatever part of the legal system they want. But we
1:17:48
follow the law for everyone because it's foundational in our
1:17:52
democracy. And I remember sitting in Iran for three buddy
1:17:56
gets treated this,
1:17:57
this is the thing that so concerning Donald Trump is
1:17:59
calling for, in his words, death and destruction. He's falling
1:18:02
for his allies to rally behind him. He's asking people to
1:18:06
please speak up.
1:18:09
Adam Curry: I find this, this is truly abhorrent
1:18:13
Unknown: for him. Actually, I wouldn't. I'm glad you got this,
1:18:16
because you're onto something. Because what she said, in fact,
1:18:20
in fact, you don't have to bring anything to prove your ID at
1:18:24
all. You don't have to bring a single thing, you could just sit
1:18:27
yourself down. And if they can't prove you're guilty, you're out
1:18:30
of there. But to prove anything, if you didn't do anything, and
1:18:34
they can't prove you did
1:18:35
Adam Curry: it, she not a professor of law.
1:18:39
John C Dvorak: This is really I think you've stumbled on
1:18:41
something that's very, very bad, dark and endless. Let's just as
1:18:49
a reminder, I hate to play this clip over and over again. But it
1:18:53
goes right back to good old John Brennan Brenner, former
1:18:57
Adam Curry: director of C I A
1:18:59
Unknown: people are innocent until alleged to be involved in
1:19:02
some type of criminal activity.
1:19:04
Adam Curry: So you're innocent until alleged to be guilty of
1:19:07
some kind of criminal activity and that have they? I can't
1:19:12
believe there was a meeting and they said, Hey, I got an idea.
1:19:17
John C Dvorak: Meeting this is organic.
1:19:19
Adam Curry: But how does that happen? How does that happen?
1:19:23
Well, I got one more clip.
1:19:24
Unknown: Are you worried about violence industry? Dangerous
1:19:26
rhetoric? Yeah, yeah, it's very, I'm very concerned about
1:19:29
that. It is dangerous and violence is never the answer.
1:19:33
This is part of the reason we have a court system so that we
1:19:36
don't resolve these things. Are you worried about it? Are you
1:19:39
worried about it, I always worry about violence. But again, I
1:19:43
think that's why it's important for as many people as possible
1:19:47
to take a deep breath to be calm to step back and say this is one
1:19:52
more step in the legal process. Donald Trump is going to have
1:19:56
plenty of opportunities to make his case in open court Oh, and
1:20:00
the prosecution will have the same opportunity. Let the
1:20:04
process go forward. No one is above the law.
1:20:08
Adam Curry: Wow. Wow. So their star witnesses are Michael
1:20:15
Cohen, the guy who says X cetera. And this checked
1:20:19
Unknown: I've seen him naked. He's a lot scarier with his
1:20:22
clothes on and after Abinadi put me through last January. You
1:20:28
know, I'm not scared.
1:20:31
Adam Curry: I can't wait to watch it.
1:20:33
John C Dvorak: Well, I know you play deck that stormy Daniels
1:20:36
clipped twice but for that one, I'm giving you a borderline Clip
1:20:39
of the Day.
1:20:39
Adam Curry: Oh, thank you. I'll take it. And with that, I'd like
1:20:44
to thank you for your courage in the morning to you the man who
1:20:46
put the DOS see in the can please say hello to my friend on
1:20:50
the other end less gentle Mr. John C.
1:20:54
John C Dvorak: In the morning, do Mr. Adam curry also in the
1:20:56
Moreno ship see boots on the ground feet in the air subs in
1:21:00
the water and all the names and ice out there. And we
1:21:03
Adam Curry: got plenty of your show left. This is just the
1:21:05
first two tapas we've done. So if you leave that's on you
1:21:08
because you'll have to prove your NSL count. Let's see how
1:21:11
many we have in the room right now. That we're waiting for us.
1:21:15
2472 We could lose 500 Get out of here leave Yes, you can
1:21:20
leave. We don't need you. We will keep 2000 We don't need you
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need you at all. That is troll room.io where you can listen
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1:21:32
everything. That's what we do. That's our main job. And people
1:21:37
seem to get peace somehow with this stuff. When we dissect this
1:21:43
bullcrap. It makes people think about the words that are being
1:21:47
used and the cycle and NLP I'm gonna say it and psychological
1:21:51
warfare by our politicians and news media. And I'm just ah, and
1:21:58
luckily, we do it with humor, because we're stupid. We're just
1:22:00
some old dudes. So that's why people come to us to listen up.
1:22:07
And to feel good about okay, let's just put this into
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Digital dementia actually someone Someone said that that
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powered, which was I mean, you said right off the bat. This is
1:23:26
the one Yeah, I went to the I think I went to
1:23:29
John C Dvorak: let the boy had to do that right off the bat.
1:23:31
Because you hate Derek. Did you
1:23:33
Adam Curry: hate him? It's true. It's true. This is fact.
1:23:36
John C Dvorak: Well, I went over it, because you had to take a
1:23:38
break. And I was looking at once I like was the pause AI by
1:23:42
Fletcher, which I use for the newsletter. I just thought it
1:23:46
was cute. But it was hard. You couldn't read the thing. And it
1:23:48
was it but it was obvious that Darren piece was he just sent me
1:23:54
got into his mind to do this with it's one of those stupid
1:23:59
games. I remember those.
1:24:00
Adam Curry: Yeah. What was that game where you had to touch
1:24:04
John C Dvorak: something and then you had to match it with
1:24:07
something else that showed how a circuit worked. Oh, yeah, it was
1:24:11
just some dumb thing. But it was it was I guess educational at
1:24:15
the time was retro man. It was truly retro. And and the piece
1:24:18
was done with a Yeah, he had the I know where he got that art,
1:24:22
but I'm sure he didn't draw it. And I'm sure there was a classic
1:24:26
Adam Curry: comics or Blogger didn't call him out as stealing
1:24:28
so
1:24:30
John C Dvorak: well, because he probably couldn't find it. I
1:24:33
also liked electric brains by Melvin Gibbs Stein. And he it's
1:24:39
just you couldn't read the best podcasts in the same old
1:24:43
singularity.
1:24:44
Adam Curry: Oh, right. Right. Right. Right. Right. That's a
1:24:46
good piece. Yes. That was a good piece. And there was another one
1:24:50
that people had some good AI stuff which I think we pulled
1:24:53
apart
1:24:54
John C Dvorak: appropriately. And of course, comic strip
1:24:56
blogger did. Ai generators. So now stolen, uh, come on a Sikh
1:25:01
Don't be anti AI.
1:25:04
Adam Curry: I'm very anti AI. And we can see it right away. So
1:25:07
if I can see it, we're not gonna waste a good piece anyway. But
1:25:10
if we can see it, we can hear it, if we can smell it, we're
1:25:14
not using it. We're against that. We like human beings, we'd
1:25:18
like don't call it a tool tool at all. Now, of course, if a
1:25:25
synonymous of Dogpatch and Laurel Bovisa sent me an email,
1:25:30
and by the way, I have to apologize, I'm not quite sure
1:25:32
what happened. Somehow, we, we repented for giving out the
1:25:39
incorrect code, his donation number 2254. And we had said,
1:25:44
2252, I'm not sure what happened, but the original show
1:25:48
something, I had a crash of my editing software, and there was
1:25:53
a gap. And I think that gap contain the actual coded number.
1:25:58
So it's 2254, in case that is important for world peace. But
1:26:03
he picked me and he said, So how are you guys gonna feel about
1:26:06
when? When AI starts using bits of your show? I'm like, great.
1:26:13
We've always encouraged lawyers. We're gonna sue anybody.
1:26:18
John C Dvorak: I think we should have aI stealing it and making
1:26:20
it its own.
1:26:22
Adam Curry: No, but if they're promoting our show with it, I
1:26:24
have no dad,
1:26:25
John C Dvorak: you think that's gonna happen? I don't see the
1:26:27
promotion of anything. But AI is done. They don't reference
1:26:31
anything. They don't promote anything. They don't say where
1:26:33
the material came from. Right now. It's only from Wikipedia,
1:26:37
or mostly from Wikipedia, which is open source,
1:26:39
Adam Curry: I wouldn't I would be guaranteeing about a piece of
1:26:41
audio. This is what I would be thinking,
1:26:43
John C Dvorak: well, a piece of audio that goes on and on about
1:26:46
something and then they credits it to someone else. I don't
1:26:48
think that's you
1:26:49
Adam Curry: know, if they credited to someone else, that's
1:26:51
a problem. Of course.
1:26:52
John C Dvorak: That's what it'll do.
1:26:56
Adam Curry: I want show me the first here's what because you
1:26:58
know, sir, Jean is all in on AI. Oh, so good. And I forgive
1:27:05
John C Dvorak: her Jean is now the poster boy for AI.
1:27:08
Adam Curry: I forgive him. I forgive him for this. Because
1:27:11
Oh, he sent me this short movie made by AI. And it's the end of
1:27:16
the world. Of course, it's AI. And then they have a Biden voice
1:27:20
in there, which actually wasn't too bad. And then they come in
1:27:23
with Trump. Amen is so bad. I, I defy any AI to do a perfect
1:27:31
Trump, it cannot be done. And it's not just how we sound. It's
1:27:35
what he's saying. I can I can smell that and hear that a mile
1:27:40
away. I don't think AI will ever be able to do it. Even actors
1:27:44
can't do it. There's very few who can they can get the voice.
1:27:48
Kinda right. The guy on SNL becomes very close. But you can
1:27:53
hear it. We're not going to be fooled by this. People getting
1:27:57
fooled by Dylan Mulvaney with Bud Light. Okay, that's on you
1:28:01
while you're watching that at all. Anyway, I digress. Other
1:28:07
things we looked at were I kind of liked the we didn't even talk
1:28:15
about Francisco Scaramanga with a slow the AI curve. I liked
1:28:22
that one. But I only saw that later, and I didn't fight for
1:28:25
it. But it probably still would have lost out to the electronic
1:28:28
brain, which is just a dynamite piece. We thank you. Darren
1:28:32
O'Neill.
1:28:33
John C Dvorak: And Derek has just not hit one for a while.
1:28:36
He's not hedging a couple of years ago, he did the most all
1:28:39
year.
1:28:40
Adam Curry: He has not been hitting it lately. For Darren.
1:28:43
John C Dvorak: Well, the competition is gone. It's stiff
1:28:46
to the roof. It is
1:28:47
Adam Curry: stiff. It is stuff. So no agenda art. generator.com
1:28:51
is where you can follow along where you can always, even if
1:28:54
you're listening live, it's cool to do that. But of course, if
1:28:58
you want you can get that modern podcast app, it'll show you a
1:29:01
whole bunch of these in the chapters also something you
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don't get on legacy apps. So that's the time and talent
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portion for treasure. We go to our executive and Associate
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a $1,000 donation from another dude named Ben. And he sent in a
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handwritten note and I will read some of it. It's quite long.
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Adam and John. Sorry, this donation is so long to find you.
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I've been listening close to three years now I find your show
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write that down. Is that a term buffalo feathers?
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John C Dvorak: Not that I know of but it is now I like it.
1:29:51
Buffalo feathers, Buffalo feathers.
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Adam Curry: I finally decided to quit procrastinating and donate
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after hearing Adam speak on the JRE epic So a few months ago, I
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commend you for you taking a stand as a follower and brother
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something interesting is I wish that Joe could become could
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become a Christian. I said, Well, you should pray for him.
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So we really appreciate it. And he says, Thank you very much.
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From another dude named Ben, this one in commercial concrete
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construction. And we love our dudes named Ben, they are the
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ones that keep the world alive, and very much appreciated. And I
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don't know did he get he didn't ask for a night name. He didn't
1:30:35
ask for knighting
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John C Dvorak: get put on the list.
1:30:40
Adam Curry: He's not on the list. So I want to wait. So he
1:30:43
should probably give us a night name. I don't even know if he if
1:30:47
he realizes that he can be knighted. And I'd like him to do
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And please write back to us. And let us know what you'd like to
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1:31:08
you should read the next
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March of 2021. From hospital not the hospital. When I had
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pericarditis from the first vaccination and you played the
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end of show mix, there's no AstraZeneca in Spain to the tune
1:31:33
of three dogs night never been to Spain. I was listening to
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this at 430 in the morning in my hospital room, and I laughed so
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hard the nurse came in wondering what was wrong with me. The
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irony was too much I had to laugh and of course that healed
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him immediately. Oh, no. Unfortunately, following that
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medical episode, although I was very hesitant my cardiac
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consultant assured me and insisted I should get a second
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vaccination, saying the mantra the good news. Wow, laugh at
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him. That's not fun. It's not nice. Rather. Oh my goodness.
1:32:06
John C Dvorak: So the first one didn't kill yet. Just try number
1:32:09
two. Come on. can do it? What's the worst?
1:32:13
Adam Curry: Oh my goodness. I see. Saying the monitor the NHS
1:32:18
uses regarding people being negatively affected by the
1:32:20
vaccine quote, correlation does not imply causation. I can just
1:32:25
hear him say it already. On receiving the second vaccine. I
1:32:28
had a heart attack. Oh man. I have hilar
1:32:34
John C Dvorak: sick to be laughing at this poor man.
1:32:36
Adam Curry: I have had three in total following the second
1:32:38
vaccination. Oh my goodness. Now they have on my medical notes.
1:32:42
No vaccines. Something that the no agenda show was saying all
1:32:47
along. Sadly, oh, this is no laughing matter now. Oh, no.
1:32:51
Okay. And although I am recovering well, I regret ever
1:32:54
taking the vaccine. And I wish I had listened to you the best
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podcast in the universe. So in light of me being a numpty and
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not taking your advice please do Do
1:33:05
John C Dvorak: you spend deed deuced. We should mention we've
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never given advice line never given a never given? Not we have
1:33:12
all we do is present evidence the facts of the matter. Yep.
1:33:16
And you can just make your own damn decision. There's plenty of
1:33:19
people that listen to the show that have gotten the vaccine
1:33:21
gotten that they feel fine. They have no problems with it. And
1:33:24
there's plenty of other people right off the bat, for example,
1:33:26
our friend up there and I guess he was in Denver, the paramedic
1:33:30
who took the vaccine early on, we just we just read his report.
1:33:34
That's right. We do not give medical advice on the show he's
1:33:39
Adam Curry: emboldened now we do not. That's correct. So we did
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Adam Curry: You've got karma Baron west from Seattle,
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John C Dvorak: Yeah, it's not. Oh, okay. Well, I'll let me keep
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looking to hold on but we're placed Okay.
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Adam Curry: Tim Wirth comes in as our first Associate Executive
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producer from Overland Park Kansas. Row a ducks. Two Two
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John C Dvorak: Great from receita he or she is Bremen
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Unknown: give it up. Thanks. Good evening. Is this Crown Hall
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day two. We are watching. That was Attorney General Eric Holder
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ad DS about some Republicans at home already beating the drums
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of war today the Pentagon refuted that claim. And he said
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the American people do not want him to quote dwindling either.
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They do not want him twiddling his thumbs
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Adam Curry: got karma? Anything from
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John C Dvorak: segway take one peek at this anonymous yeah,
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there's nothing I can't find it. I don't know where it was Santa.
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And yet, we should remind people they're not there. They're
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Adam Curry: And on that, on that note, view put in the newsletter
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week?
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John C Dvorak: No, we can expect it within q2.
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Adam Curry: I'm not going to accept that. Cute. No. You
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promised.
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John C Dvorak: How hard is just like a software guy I'm just
1:40:00
going to ask
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Adam Curry: him to do it if Jay doesn't Oh, it'll be fantastic
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John C Dvorak: we'll get it done yeah, I had my SSD blew up and
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it is I can't boot the machines I flipped it around there there
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wasn't a machine because I put another one in and worked fine
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but so i i do have a possibility of fixing that it's long shot
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people have
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Adam Curry: been sitting there with their Bitcoin waiting to
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donate which we promised would blow the Bitcoin
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John C Dvorak: thing it's just it's just this what do you call
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it?
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Adam Curry: A link a QR code your code is the code is one of
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those I want to add it you want to add it for the in the next 90
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John C Dvorak: it up? Sure put it on put it up. We have it
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floating around. Yeah, okay.
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Adam Curry: But it So which one are we on? Anonymous?
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John C Dvorak: Okay, anonymous in Truth or Consequences New
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Mexico. That's cool. In the morning to you gents. I choose
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to remain anonymous mostly to spare you from breaking your
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jaws when pronouncing My name please de douche me you've been
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you both into the no agenda nation. Ah
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Adam Curry: sir Salah Hauser in Melbourne, Florida. $200 in the
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morning, John Adam. Thanks for all you do shout out to all the
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Central Florida producers and douchebags What's up y'all? I
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Unknown: You've got karma.
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John C Dvorak: Christopher Edmondson in Woodbury,
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Adam Curry: need more. I think he already has three. All right,
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Producer. We have the number of other donators is low enough
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Adam Curry: I thought we're gonna do a second break. It's
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John C Dvorak: Tuesday. It's actually shorter than most of
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our second break.
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Adam Curry: Here, but then I still got nights and birthdays
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and meetups. Yeah. Why don't we do them in the second break?
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Let's do a second break. Okay, I'm telling
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John C Dvorak: you very short. second break. Well, this was top
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heavy today.
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Adam Curry: Yeah, well, I want I want to, but I want the bottom
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and the bottom will even out because we got a lot of
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Unknown: is this. We go out we hit people in the mouth
1:43:54
John C Dvorak: should mention that there's been some horrible
1:43:56
accident I suppose on the Nimitz freeway highway 80 Because it's
1:44:02
been stopped dead for the last time stopped dead. But last 10
1:44:05
minutes a huge jam up and I was hearing a bunch of skidding
1:44:08
earlier and I figure what happened is I'm just guessing
1:44:11
because I can't see down the road where it was somebody hit a
1:44:14
pothole roof.
1:44:16
Adam Curry: You already flipped a car one of your main
1:44:18
complaints
1:44:19
John C Dvorak: at his after hitting the pothole probably
1:44:21
another car hit the pod they probably crashed in midair. And
1:44:25
now this whole thing starts horrible. We were spending our
1:44:28
money on fixing potholes in Ukraine.
1:44:31
Adam Curry: I want to I got two clips here. Clip custodian sent
1:44:35
these to me from Fox and and I think it's a very I think is a
1:44:39
trap being said here. Dr. Jeanette Nash you want to think
1:44:44
is her name came on to discuss there's there's been a lot of
1:44:49
concern about the World Health Organization and the in the so
1:44:53
called treaty, the World Health Organization treaty that all
1:44:57
countries are signed that have actually already signed on to
1:45:00
But there's an update that we've, we've discussed it, and
1:45:03
it's being discussed and it, you know, the actual vote failed
1:45:07
once, but they're going to come back to it. And the idea is that
1:45:10
the World Health Organization would have complete control over
1:45:14
our health services in, in the West, because of course, they're
1:45:19
mainly China, China controlled and Bill Gates, all the same
1:45:23
thing. And, and so the, what we know from what we've
1:45:29
deconstructed about this treaty, is that it does not need to be
1:45:33
ratified the way the language will be written, because the
1:45:36
treaty with the United States is already a member of the treaty
1:45:39
as the EU. And so they can just add to it if they vote on that
1:45:44
themselves, and it can just kind of be slipped in. It is my
1:45:47
belief.
1:45:48
John C Dvorak: They were just like, you're telling me there's
1:45:51
a treaty out there this like a EULA? We're in there. It says we
1:45:54
can change this at a time without notice.
1:45:57
Adam Curry: That's a very good analogy. Yes. It doesn't well,
1:46:00
and it doesn't need to be ratified again. Yes, it is like
1:46:03
a you. That's my understanding. I'm not a lawyer. I'm not a
1:46:06
doctor. I'm certainly not Dr. Jeanette. It is my belief that
1:46:10
they are setting a trap by calming everybody, certainly the
1:46:14
people who would be concerned about that, which would be the
1:46:16
people who watch Fox News. And and they're probably lying to
1:46:21
us. So I want to play these two clips so we can figure out
1:46:23
what's going on.
1:46:24
Unknown: i What is your reaction about what the who
1:46:26
has said? They're saying that healthy children and teenagers
1:46:29
probably don't need the COVID vaccine?
1:46:33
They say the traditional shots are more important.
1:46:36
Yeah, that's right. So the World Health Organization is coming
1:46:39
out with their new guidelines. They do say if you're still high
1:46:42
risk to get a booster every six months to a year, but when it
1:46:45
comes to age, six months of age, and up to 17 years of age,
1:46:49
that's not recommended for most young teenagers. And that makes
1:46:53
sense. Kids, they are the lowest risk group when it comes to
1:46:57
severe complications with COVID. And on top of that, we've
1:47:00
reached a level of population immunity. Many children more
1:47:04
than 88% have already had COVID. So they have that protection
1:47:08
from natural immunity. And many of them also have had vaccines.
1:47:11
So when you combine protection from vaccination protection from
1:47:15
infection and reinfection, you're at low risk, and it makes
1:47:18
sense that you don't need to have that additional shot unless
1:47:21
you have any underlying medical circumstances. But is it a
1:47:25
significant public health benefit to vaccinate toddlers?
1:47:29
At this point? The answer is no.
1:47:31
Adam Curry: So this to me is the setup. They're telling you, hey,
1:47:33
the World Health Organization is actually the kind of saying
1:47:36
something good to say. They're not saying what the CDC is
1:47:39
saying or saying what the FDA say. They're saying No, you
1:47:42
shouldn't do that.
1:47:43
Unknown: There are a lot of parents that don't want their
1:47:45
children vaccinated. What do you think this means for the fall?
1:47:48
When schools get back, go back? You know, back into classes, our
1:47:51
children go back into the classes. Do you think that the
1:47:53
schools will take this information and use that and
1:47:55
say, You don't need to be vaccinated? I
1:47:57
hope so. I hope the CDC follows the recommendations do they know
1:48:00
the world sometimes, like for example, the World Health
1:48:04
Organization said do not mask children yet our CDC said Master
1:48:09
children, so I do hope they follow suit and understand that
1:48:12
the children are the lowest risk group and we should not you know
1:48:15
in place on them all of these restrictions and guidelines, let
1:48:19
them be free. Let them live. Let them develop that natural
1:48:21
immunity with all the other viruses that are out there where
1:48:23
she says
1:48:24
Adam Curry: just let them live. Let them live. What the kids do
1:48:30
you understand what I'm saying? They're making it sound like Oh,
1:48:32
our CDC, you know, even though the World Health Organization,
1:48:38
would you say? Yeah, they're saying, Oh, they're, they're
1:48:40
stricter. Um, you don't have to? I think this is a setup. I'm all
1:48:44
going to be like, oh, you know, our CDC had just a bunch of
1:48:46
dicks. But wait until the new treaty the new EULA is in place.
1:48:51
Just saying. That felt a little Trappy to me.
1:48:55
John C Dvorak: To be a little Trappy I got some I had those
1:48:59
clips too, but I didn't see it that way. Oh,
1:49:03
Adam Curry: do you still see it? Do you still see it differently?
1:49:05
John C Dvorak: No. I did. That's an interesting thesis. I'm not
1:49:09
going to get into his you're not going to disagree with me. I'm
1:49:13
not going to disagree. I have some COVID clips since we're on
1:49:17
the topic. Okay,
1:49:18
Adam Curry: good. I had that's about all I had of COVID
1:49:22
John C Dvorak: right my COVID who news no booster is the same
1:49:25
as what you played. Okay, but I got a kick out of listening to
1:49:28
Rand Paul go after. After Blinken.
1:49:32
Adam Curry: Hey, Bob. Okay.
1:49:35
John C Dvorak: This is right. And then this went on for 10
1:49:38
minutes and I took about Oh, looks like it took about four
1:49:42
minutes out of it with three clips. And I get there's some
1:49:46
good stuff in your bag. I tried to get the best of it. Let's
1:49:48
listen to him go after Blinken right off the top here. Rampaul
1:49:52
versus Blinken.
1:49:53
Unknown: On September 12. And November 7 of last year I sent
1:49:56
letters to the State Department asking for records about
1:50:00
Coronavirus research that had been funded by the State
1:50:02
Department State Department refused to comply. When
1:50:06
Assistant Secretary Sherman came I asked her the same question.
1:50:09
She didn't seem to be aware that you had been funding Coronavirus
1:50:12
research, but you are. And I got the I'll get back to you lOn. A
1:50:17
couple of weeks later, I met personally with you at the State
1:50:20
Department and asked you the same question. Will you not
1:50:23
divulge to us the records of the State Department's support for
1:50:26
Coronavirus research, particularly in China, You
1:50:30
assured me you would help we communicated several times over
1:50:32
the phone with another Assistant Secretary of State who finally
1:50:36
sent us a letter and said no, we're not going to give you
1:50:39
anything. So that's where we stand. And it's my question is
1:50:42
what's the State Department hiding? Why won't you give these
1:50:44
records to the American people?
1:50:47
Senator, thank you. And yes, I appreciate you raising this when
1:50:50
we saw each other a month or so ago. And my understanding is
1:50:55
that our teams have been working to find an accommodation.
1:50:58
There's long standing, we've got to refuse
1:51:00
blanket refusal. No, they are not going to give us records.
1:51:04
We cannot directly provide the unredacted cables, we have a
1:51:09
long standing practice with this committee about how we do
1:51:12
refusing
1:51:13
you're refusing to release that Oh, but you can't there's a
1:51:15
difference between can and may you won't do it. But you can do
1:51:19
it. And
1:51:20
my hope is that we can find a way forward that answers your
1:51:23
concerns so that you get the information that you're looking
1:51:25
for. And my understanding is that our team has been working
1:51:27
on that. And I commit to continue to do that. So we can
1:51:30
get you the the
1:51:31
we're talking about unclassified material, most of this is
1:51:34
unclassified. And so we just had a unanimous vote in the Senate
1:51:38
and in the house. And President Biden just signed a bill saying
1:51:42
he's going to declassify stuff. But if you declassified and you
1:51:45
still hide it from the American people, that's a problem.
1:51:49
Adam Curry: Oh, really? don't see it that way. That's not a
1:51:52
problem. You need to know anything Shut up club.
1:51:54
John C Dvorak: So of course this isn't being covered by anybody.
1:51:57
Except so yeah, they made a big fuss as you noticed. In fact, we
1:52:01
have another big fuss that we mentioned in the last show that
1:52:03
somebody clarified for us which is the authorization for
1:52:07
military use of force use of force they kicked out two of
1:52:16
them but this they left in the 2021 version, which was the most
1:52:19
important one of the 2001 Now is it 2021 It's already I'm sorry
1:52:25
Yeah, I have to do I have to note I have to read the note but
1:52:27
let's get back to this I'm sorry. We're getting off topic
1:52:30
but the this is an example though where yeah, we would
1:52:34
grandstands with all passes are going to release all the
1:52:36
documents and that he did keep that they don't release
1:52:39
anything.
1:52:40
Adam Curry: Oh, why bother was with a little people?
1:52:45
John C Dvorak: Yeah, screw us. Okay, let's do part two, this
1:52:47
part two, which is interesting that introduces the USA ID into
1:52:50
the picture.
1:52:51
Unknown: I mean, we spend all of this time lambasted
1:52:53
authoritarians. And for lack of transparency, we have these
1:52:57
silly networks on TV that are aligned with the Democrat party
1:53:00
saying democracy is under attack. What do you think
1:53:02
transparency has something to do with democracy Nice. You're
1:53:05
refusing to give records on research money that went for
1:53:10
research, we want to read the research grant proposals. We
1:53:13
want to read what the people in Wuhan sent back to the State
1:53:16
Department saying they did. Which viruses did they create?
1:53:20
Because the thing is, is it sounds all great, we're going to
1:53:23
identify all the viruses of the world. But part of what they do
1:53:26
is they take a virus they found 200 feet down in a cave, and
1:53:30
they mix it with another virus to create a virus that doesn't
1:53:32
exist in nature, because they say that's how we're going to
1:53:34
further identified. There's a big debate that should be had
1:53:37
whether that safe to take a virus from 100 feet down a
1:53:41
Batcave 12 hours out to Wuhan and take it to a city of 10
1:53:44
million. And yet you won't help us investigate this you refuse.
1:53:48
And it makes it is reminiscent of the countries we criticize
1:53:52
for lack of transparency. And yet you sit there and say you're
1:53:55
still going to continue to reviews.
1:53:58
Senator, I think there are very important debates that certainly
1:54:03
go beyond my knowledge and expertise for example, on gain
1:54:07
of function that I know there's a vigorous debate about whether
1:54:11
the risk outweighs the reward. I don't have the expertise
1:54:16
how do we have oversight or investigate it if you won't give
1:54:19
us a week
1:54:20
so the program that in this instance USA ID was involved in
1:54:25
was not engaged in gain of function
1:54:30
Adam Curry: Wow, this is so deep they're waffling so bad on it's
1:54:34
it's a huge mess. And you got to think that this is this is level
1:54:38
Kennedy killing cover up. Oh, yeah. It's really bad cheese.
1:54:46
John C Dvorak: Now the last clip, which I don't see on here,
1:54:48
unfortunately discusses the fact that they that the there was
1:54:53
some leaked documents. I had to get those and put them back in
1:54:56
here. I don't know what happened to him. Too bad. Yeah, I got
1:55:01
this.
1:55:02
Adam Curry: I was gonna say what I well, I what I see is actually
1:55:05
go ahead because I want to change topic
1:55:09
John C Dvorak: that this last let's play this for this is
1:55:11
COVID vac CDC corruption new
1:55:14
Unknown: and the CDC now says a new about safety irregularities
1:55:18
for the COVID vaccine earlier than we thought. Here's the
1:55:20
story.
1:55:21
The Epoch Times this week published files obtained from
1:55:24
the CDC via a Freedom of Information Act request. The
1:55:27
file show that in May of 2022, the CDC found more than 700
1:55:32
signals that the vaccines could cause adverse events. Such
1:55:36
adverse events include acute heart failure and death. It was
1:55:39
previously thought the CDC detected the signals in July
1:55:42
2022 When the CDC conducted its first analysis employees
1:55:47
identified more than 200 signals for Pfizer shot and 93 signals
1:55:51
for modernise vaccine, Senator Ron Johnson, the top Republican
1:55:56
on the Permanent Subcommittee on Investigations said federal
1:55:59
health agencies have ignored the flashing alarms of their own
1:56:02
safety surveillance systems since early 2021. They have
1:56:06
ignored my oversight letters and lied about what analyses they
1:56:09
have performed. It is well past time for the American public to
1:56:13
be told the truth.
1:56:14
Adam Curry: Isn't it great that we have this Trump indictment
1:56:17
while all of this stuff is taking place? Yeah, this
1:56:20
coincidence, shout, this is why you gotta listen to the your no
1:56:23
agenda show. So you at least can keep track of what they're doing
1:56:27
to us. And now there's something bad going on Canada Navia as
1:56:31
well. This is this is the Bill C 11, which we've discussed many
1:56:35
times, or certainly Bill C 10. Which was the first I think it's
1:56:41
called the online streaming act. What this does is it gives the
1:56:46
CRTC that's the Canadian regulatory body that oversees
1:56:55
radio and television so I guess in a way like our FCC, but it's
1:56:59
now expanded to cover all audio visual content on the internet,
1:57:04
including Tik Tok, YouTube, Spotify, podcast clients. Good.
1:57:08
How about that? You better get a new podcast app now people,
1:57:13
especially if you live in Canada, because they're going to
1:57:15
try and I mean, they can't. But they will. They will. They will
1:57:19
censor, maybe even No, no agenda on Spotify and an apple and
1:57:24
apple and Spotify will comply. As well as YouTube and everybody
1:57:28
else under Bill under Bill and this past on March 30. Under be
1:57:36
Bill C 11. All platforms hosting audio visual content that are
1:57:39
not specifically excluded, must make financial contributions to
1:57:43
producing officially recognized can con currently defined as
1:57:50
1980s era point system built on legacy legacy media broadcast
1:57:54
media. I'm not quite sure exactly what is going on. But
1:57:58
pure polar bear polar bear. I hate to see it. He says his
1:58:02
name. He was very upset and he put out like a a tick tock
1:58:06
emergency broadcast. And I'm wondering if you see this one
1:58:09
here.
1:58:09
Unknown: Hi, everyone. Pierre Paul, we have here. There's just
1:58:12
an emergency here in Parliament Hill. The Liberals have just
1:58:14
announced that they're shutting down debate. They're censoring
1:58:18
debate on their censorship. Bill. We just got the notice
1:58:22
right now. As you know, they've been trying to censor the
1:58:24
Internet. And what Canadian artists Margaret Atwood is
1:58:28
called creeping totalitarianism. So given Troodos woke
1:58:32
bureaucrats over the CRTC the power to control what you see
1:58:35
and say on the internet. I'm just rushing into the House of
1:58:39
Commons lobby right now conservatives are the only party
1:58:42
fighting back. But as you can see, this closure is now being
1:58:48
brought regular for us right now. Right here. online
1:58:53
streaming. They're bringing in what's called closure, which
1:58:57
shuts down debate and ramps the bill through in record time.
1:59:01
Only conservatives are fighting back against this censorship.
1:59:04
Dale, we believe you should have the freedom to decide what you
1:59:07
see and stay online. But I need you to immediately sign my
1:59:10
freedom of speech petition. The link is right before you click
1:59:15
Sign immediately. Let's bring home freedom. I want to give you
1:59:20
back control of your life and make this the freest country on
1:59:22
Earth. It's common sense. Let's bring it home. Now.
1:59:27
Adam Curry: So if I understand correctly, what is still under
1:59:30
debate is some amendments that may or may not go in and I'm a
1:59:34
little unsure of the timeline. So I do have a one minute clip
1:59:37
of of the I guess the liberal party saying hey, man, why don't
1:59:45
you what's what's wrong with you? What's wrong with with
1:59:47
what's wrong? What's your problem? What's your problem
1:59:50
with work? And the same peer your politician peer group takes
1:59:54
the stage and I'm wondering if
1:59:56
Unknown: you would like to kind of backtrack or apologize on on
1:59:59
character In the CRTC is a small group of privileged insiders
2:00:02
closest to the prime minister. And I would also ask him if he
2:00:05
would like to define the word woke I asked one of his
2:00:07
colleagues as well, for that definition, I'd like to see what
2:00:09
he has to say
2:00:09
thank you. The opposition. Actually, I will backtrack, it
2:00:14
is a big group of insiders. big sprawling bureaucracy with far
2:00:21
too many people working for it, there will be less people
2:00:24
working for the CRTC when I'm Prime Minister, because they'll
2:00:26
have less power and they'll have a hell of a lot less to do when
2:00:29
I restore freedom of speech and freedom expression online and on
2:00:32
the internet. And as for the definition of well, woke has one
2:00:36
purpose only one purpose, plenty of pretexts, but only one
2:00:40
purpose control. It is designed to divide people by race, by
2:00:44
gender, by ethnicity, by religion, by vaccine status, and
2:00:49
any other way that they can divide people into groups
2:00:51
because why then you can justify having a government to control
2:00:55
all those groups. No more woke we need to leave.
2:00:58
Adam Curry: There you go. Same goes for the US and everywhere
2:01:01
else where woke is in play. That I'd liked that. He said that
2:01:06
within 40 seconds. I was pretty good. Yeah. Nailed it. We had
2:01:11
some pretty bad tornadoes. Yeah, I
2:01:14
John C Dvorak: have some weather reports.
2:01:15
Adam Curry: Oh, let's give it give me the weather reports.
2:01:17
John C Dvorak: Well, this is a this is interesting, because I
2:01:20
have a contrasting series of clips. Yours first, I have
2:01:24
tornadoes and climate change because that's what they bring
2:01:26
up on PBS. I have a two parter there and then that I follow
2:01:30
that with an old classic clip from 1953.
2:01:34
Adam Curry: Oh, okay. Let's hear the PBS version.
2:01:36
Unknown: And as the cleanup begins, more than 200,000 people
2:01:40
across five states remain without power. Oh, no. We're on
2:01:45
these storms. Walker Ashley of Northern Illinois University.
2:01:49
He's an atmospheric scientist and a certified consulting
2:01:52
meteorologist. I understand you were doing some some firsthand
2:01:56
research last night a little storm chasing. What did you see?
2:01:59
Well got on some good supercells in the central part of the
2:02:02
Seychelles. Luckily, they didn't produce any tornadoes in the
2:02:07
area that I was in but unfortunately for the
2:02:09
communities they did get take some pretty big hail but
2:02:12
compared to some parts of the Midwest, I think we made out
2:02:15
okay,
2:02:15
John C Dvorak: okay. Again, I found this is the intro to this
2:02:19
guy. He's storm chasing and he says I luckily I saw no
2:02:24
tornadoes.
2:02:27
Adam Curry: That's it his whole thing is to see tornadoes is not
2:02:30
what
2:02:31
John C Dvorak: storm chasing isn't that the idea to see
2:02:33
tornadoes? Isn't that way to do storm chasing? I would say so.
2:02:38
So why is he feel lucky? Didn't see any. Okay, so that that's
2:02:41
the premise for this guy. So now he's gonna give us a little
2:02:44
rundown on climate change.
2:02:45
Unknown: You've got a recent study about the future of super
2:02:48
cells in the United States. First of all, what is a
2:02:52
supercell? Great question.
2:02:55
Super cells are rotating thunderstorms. They're actually
2:02:58
relatively small. But they pack a heck of a punch. I always
2:03:02
liken them to peanuts. You know, peanut is a relatively small
2:03:06
piece of food, but boy, it's got a lot of calories, a lot of
2:03:09
protein, a lot of fat. And these super cells, although relatively
2:03:13
small, produce the lion's share of tornadoes and significant
2:03:17
hail that we experience in the United States and some of
2:03:19
the biggest tornadoes in recent years more Oklahoma Joplin,
2:03:22
Missouri, the southern outbreak in 2011. You as I understand
2:03:28
your study, you modeled various levels of carbon in the in it
2:03:34
over the years to see what would happen and what did you find
2:03:38
was just not carbon, we looked at various sort of future
2:03:41
projections of the greenhouse gas right emission scenarios.
2:03:44
Both this intermediate and pessimistic warming reveal a
2:03:48
dramatic increase in the number of super cells across the Mid
2:03:52
South, the Ozark Plateau, the lower Ohio Valley. So that area
2:03:56
of of let's call it northeast Texas, eastern Oklahoma,
2:04:00
Arkansas, Missouri, and stretching over to Mississippi
2:04:04
and Alabama, I take sometimes a doubling of the number of
2:04:08
supercells. If you double the number of supercells, the number
2:04:11
of unfortunately the hail and tornadoes could also see a
2:04:14
doubling somebody uniquely, though we actually see a decline
2:04:18
into the areas of the western Great Plains. Some people like
2:04:22
to call that colloquially sort of tornado alley, tornadoes, and
2:04:26
supercells are still going to go through this area, but maybe
2:04:29
it's some slider or maybe less rates as we move into the 21st
2:04:33
century. And to
2:04:34
these recent storms. And we had big storms last weekend again
2:04:38
this weekend. Do they suggest that the future is here? That's
2:04:42
a great
2:04:42
question. Climate change is occurring right now is going to
2:04:49
accelerate based on the emission scenarios that we're seeing.
2:04:53
There's certainly things that we can do to mitigate that. And
2:04:56
tornadoes are becoming more frequent East
2:04:59
Adam Curry: before before You play your your, your 53 clip,
2:05:03
I'd like to play a report from Deutsche Avella the German
2:05:10
international news station with their take on this event. Is
2:05:15
that okay?
2:05:17
Unknown: Yeah, I think why have
2:05:18
we been seeing so many strong tornadoes this year?
2:05:23
Well, this is our middle of our tornado season here across the
2:05:26
United States kind of starts to march ramps up in April into
2:05:29
May. So these are common to happen. And this time of year,
2:05:33
but the storm was actually a little stronger, got down to
2:05:36
about 980 millibars, a little stronger. When you get that
2:05:38
strong of a system over land, you can get pretty good strong
2:05:42
tornadoes. And indeed, we did have that from parts of the
2:05:44
United States and Iowa, Illinois, Indiana, Arkansas,
2:05:47
back into parts of Mississippi, Tennessee, even here in Alabama
2:05:50
as well, too. So this time of year, we can get these, you just
2:05:54
have that warm, humid air coming up from the Gulf of Mexico,
2:05:56
meaning that colder air from up in Canada, they clash together
2:05:59
out there and get a strong front to come in. And these
2:06:02
thunderstorms thrive on energy, the warm, humid air. And indeed
2:06:06
We did have quite a few of them. And unfortunately, this won't be
2:06:09
the last we'll have this spring.
2:06:11
Tell us Is there a link between climate change and the frequency
2:06:15
and intensity?
2:06:18
Right now, there's no study that says that, obviously with some
2:06:21
warmer, more humid air coming from the Gulf of Mexico, that
2:06:25
does become fuel for some of these storms that may lead to
2:06:27
more humid air, which those storms thrive off of what
2:06:30
studies are still ongoing as to the small impact of a tornado
2:06:34
versus a global impact. What we're seeing.
2:06:37
So the United States is, let's say particularly affected by
2:06:42
tornadoes. Can you explain to us why that is.
2:06:46
It's just the setup of where we are on the face of the earth. We
2:06:49
have our rocky mountains over the western part of the country.
2:06:52
We have our Appalachian mountains over the East and in
2:06:55
between you have this river valley, right where the
2:06:57
Mississippi River is. And that allows all this warm air to come
2:07:01
up from the south meaning cold air from the north. And when the
2:07:03
systems kind of collide in those setup, like we had yesterday,
2:07:08
that allows us to get really strong areas of low pressure,
2:07:11
and that helps to form these systems. And we can see these
2:07:14
each and every year and anytime we get in the springtime. It is
2:07:18
22 season here.
2:07:19
Adam Curry: Thank you George Avella. Good try was
2:07:22
John C Dvorak: Astellas is simplistic. It didn't blame
2:07:25
climate change, or PBS Exactly.
2:07:28
Adam Curry: This is the German television saying no. That's not
2:07:32
because of climate change. This is what happens. And I think you
2:07:34
now have a historical document.
2:07:38
John C Dvorak: So let's go to 1953.
2:07:40
Unknown: So 1953 was an extremely active tornado a year
2:07:44
and I want to check out some archival video about that
2:07:48
tornado that struck waco that year.
2:07:53
This is what happens when a tornado strikes a city like
2:07:57
Waco, Texas, where more than 100 people are fatally injured and
2:08:01
more than $50 million in property is gone in just a few
2:08:05
seconds no longer than it takes to tell it. There might have
2:08:08
been more injured except for the hard work of these volunteers
2:08:11
who work day and night to remove the trash even though their bare
2:08:15
hands to keep the wreckage from caving in on the people still
2:08:19
trapped down underneath. This is the first tornado in the history
2:08:23
of Waco. And on the day it struck the weatherman warned
2:08:26
that it was tornado weather from Waco all the way to San Angelo
2:08:30
200 miles away. And strangely enough to separate twisters hit
2:08:34
each of the two cities at about the same time. And when it
2:08:38
struck at stop the clocks at 440 in the afternoon, it was a rush
2:08:42
hour and there was a big heavy rainstorm and nobody could hear
2:08:47
nor see that Twister coming in. Can
2:08:49
you talk to Dan a little bit about the impact and legacy of
2:08:53
this monster storm monster
2:08:55
Adam Curry: storm?
2:08:55
Unknown: Yeah, it certainly was waco still stands today is the
2:08:59
deadliest tornado in Texas history. Going back to the year
2:09:02
1900. It struck at the end of the workday in downtown Waco.
2:09:08
And so literally there were many people that were caught off
2:09:11
guard buildings were literally collapsing on people as they
2:09:15
were still inside. There was actually an old Indian legend
2:09:19
back then, that pretty much of some folks that lived in Waco
2:09:23
thought that they were protected by tornadoes. Because of the
2:09:26
hills and the bluffs that surrounded the city. Of course,
2:09:29
we know that that Indian legend proved to be false, but really
2:09:33
the big legacy of the Waco tornado in that same year, June
2:09:38
of that same year, Texas a&m held a special tornado warning
2:09:43
conference and it gathered military officials,
2:09:46
meteorologists, police and fire in other city officials all
2:09:51
gathered together to discuss what had happened and they
2:09:54
really formulated a plan that over the next several years they
2:09:58
implemented and part of that plan was to basically
2:10:03
disseminate military surplus radars to cities and communities
2:10:06
throughout the state to establish the first radar
2:10:10
network in the state of Texas. It really was a watershed
2:10:14
moment.
2:10:15
Adam Curry: Wait a minute. They didn't blame climate change.
2:10:20
John C Dvorak: If that happened today, they would the
2:10:22
international
2:10:22
Adam Curry: interplanetary Climate Change Group of nutjobs
2:10:25
didn't say, oh, yeah, that's climate change. Well, you're
2:10:29
right, you're right about that. This is what they would have
2:10:32
done back in 1953. Only this is 2023. We go to EURO NEWS,
2:10:37
Unknown: and the advise more than 130 UN member states have
2:10:40
voted for the International Court of Justice to pronounce on
2:10:43
the obligations incumbent on states to protect the climate to
2:10:47
present and future generations. That means the world's highest
2:10:51
court will now clarify what countries must do legally to
2:10:54
defend the environment from climate harm, but the rest of
2:10:57
the land was non binding, meaning that there's no need for
2:11:00
any state to abide by it if it doesn't want to last week, UN
2:11:03
climate experts warned that global warming will increase by
2:11:06
one and a half degrees by 2030 to 2035, the 2015 Paris
2:11:11
Agreement, which is legally binding, set the long term goal
2:11:15
to keep warming to two degrees at the most by the end of this
2:11:18
century.
2:11:19
Adam Curry: Can you believe that? So they've now invoked the
2:11:22
International Criminal Court? Oh, you're gonna be criminals,
2:11:26
criminals if you don't keep up. And like good, good little boys
2:11:30
and girls. Little Rishi over there in the UK? Oh, yeah, we'll
2:11:34
do it. We're all in we're good.
2:11:36
Unknown: It was going to be the prime minister's Green Day. In
2:11:38
the end, it was rebranded energy security day wishes Sunak and
2:11:42
his net zero minister was shown around a Nuclear Laboratory as
2:11:45
they launched their plan. We're going
2:11:47
to create jobs across the country, we're going to increase
2:11:50
our energy security, reduce people's bills and reduce our
2:11:53
carbon emissions.
2:11:54
The government plan includes a wide range of measures, they're
2:11:57
launching an insulation scheme to make 300,000 homes more
2:12:01
energy efficient. There's a plan to invest around $300 million
2:12:04
dollars in developing green hydrogen as a fuel, claimed to
2:12:09
be more environmentally friendly. And there's the
2:12:11
formula establishment of great British nuclear to promote the
2:12:14
building of new power plants. Critics point out many proposals
2:12:19
are simply reheated versions of old announcements. In many
2:12:22
cases, there's no new funding. For example, the government's
2:12:25
pushing an existing $25 billion investment in carbon capture and
2:12:29
storage, removing carbon dioxide produced by burning fossil fuels
2:12:33
and storing it under the North Sea. Many in the energy sector
2:12:37
are calling for the government to use subsidies to encourage
2:12:40
investment in clean energy, like those President Biden's
2:12:43
announced for us first or lose out on jobs and revenue. We were
2:12:47
there with our thinking many years ahead of the rest of the
2:12:50
world. But this government has just desert and delayed and
2:12:54
those business opportunities that investment will have gone
2:12:58
to the US it will have gone to the EU because they've also
2:13:03
woken up to the fact that hydrogen offers this huge
2:13:07
potential
2:13:08
Adam Curry: though everybody is all in on the green hydrogen
2:13:11
they're going to do with nuclear apparently but there's no money
2:13:14
there's no money so that's that's the lip service. The UK
2:13:18
government is giving but the BBC they really they really took the
2:13:23
cake with their report on the 15 Minute cities now the 15 Minute
2:13:27
cities the first one being Oxford we know that this is a
2:13:32
climate change mitigation strategy have everything within
2:13:36
15 minutes walking distance I believe not even you're laughing
2:13:41
already
2:13:42
John C Dvorak: it well you know how do you even do this 15
2:13:44
minutes city and then promote tourism? I mean, the whole thing
2:13:47
is any audit but it's
2:13:50
Adam Curry: a real thing. I mean, you will agree with me
2:13:51
that these 15 minutes cities are being
2:13:53
John C Dvorak: told no they think they got something here
2:13:55
they got a got the answer. Well, you're wrong.
2:13:57
Adam Curry: This is a conspiracy theory. It's not even true man.
2:14:03
Unknown: The 15 minutes city for years it's been a buzzword in
2:14:06
urban planning. But now the concept has gone mainstream and
2:14:09
become a magnet for protests around the world from Canada to
2:14:13
the UK, with conspiracy groups claiming they're designed to
2:14:16
imprison us in our neighborhoods. Type the term 15
2:14:21
minute city into Tik Tok and it generates hundreds of videos
2:14:27
using familiar hashtags agenda 2030
2:14:30
Adam Curry: By the way, just a point of personal privilege.
2:14:33
Notice how they're not looking at Google. They're searching for
2:14:38
things on tick tock
2:14:40
Unknown: minute city into tick tock and it generates hundreds
2:14:45
of videos using familiar hashtags agenda 2030, World
2:14:49
Economic Forum's or BB agenda 20 to suggest the 15 minute goal is
2:14:54
part of a sinister global plot to limit our freedoms by
2:14:58
enforcing climate MIT lockdowns, right copers adduction
2:15:03
disinformation reporter has been tracking the spread and
2:15:06
evolution of this conspiracy, the 2030
2:15:09
conspiracy theories about this global agenda where world
2:15:12
leaders met up and are supposed to have discussed how to use
2:15:16
these environmental concerns to impose most authoritarian
2:15:20
restrictions on the people
2:15:21
and a 15 minute city is evidence of that plan being put into
2:15:26
action.
2:15:26
Yeah, and it's a form of confirmation bias as well 15
2:15:29
minutes any prisons
2:15:31
that's what they're calling them 15 minutes to you in your area
2:15:34
will only be allowed within that 15 minute zone that you have
2:15:38
videos like this one have been getting hundreds of 1000s of
2:15:41
views but the content doesn't always tally with reality.
2:15:44
Adam Curry: Don't you love how they're doing this? They're
2:15:47
twisting it to say oh, people are calling you to jail or
2:15:51
prison. It's not true. That's complete horse crap. And they
2:15:55
bring in a Dutch disinformation journalist. Let's hear more from
2:16:01
what's going on in the Netherlands.
2:16:03
Unknown: There's evidence here in the Netherlands where pretty
2:16:05
much the entire country is already made up of 15 minutes
2:16:08
this is so
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Adam Curry: no, no, no, that's crap. That's not true. Amsterdam
2:16:16
you can get from one side to the other in 45 minutes.
2:16:20
Unknown: It might just be worth taking you for a spin on my
2:16:23
bicycle to hear for yourself what it's like to live and work
2:16:28
in one here we go. So within 15 minutes, four or five kilometers
2:16:34
I can reach my daughter's Primary School lots of
2:16:37
supermarkets that doctors pharmacies
2:16:39
Adam Curry: on your bicycle in the rain all the
2:16:42
Unknown: other everyday essentials and despite the
2:16:45
people objecting to the 15 Minute idea of saying in order
2:16:47
to get this we'll be forced to sacrifice our freedom of
2:16:50
movement there's no sign of any boundaries or restrictions here
2:16:53
yeah, here in the Netherlands there's very little opposition
2:16:56
and I actually found a cycling Ambassador believes that's
2:16:59
because everyone already sees the upside
2:17:01
Adam Curry: very little opposition Are you kidding me?
2:17:05
There's big groups there's people protesting about this.
2:17:08
Okay, BBC,
2:17:10
Unknown: I can imagine what it's like to not live in a 15 minute
2:17:12
city to have to go so far to get something I think it gives you a
2:17:17
lot of freedom and that's what we all want
2:17:22
Adam Curry: 15 minutes she's gives you a lot
2:17:24
John C Dvorak: a lot of give you more freedom than not being in a
2:17:28
quiet you opposition person
2:17:30
Unknown: gives you a lot of freedom. And that's what we all
2:17:33
want public
2:17:34
polarization over the 15 minutes city has highlighted climate
2:17:38
disinformation as a new front line for cities seeking
2:17:41
innovative solutions to pressing environmental challenges. That
2:17:45
won't disappear
2:17:46
Do not be an opposition 15 minutes it is our freedom.
2:17:50
restriction is freedom. Fear is freedom. That is
2:17:57
Adam Curry: unbelievable. It's just unbelievable. I don't even
2:18:02
know what to say.
2:18:06
John C Dvorak: Well, I think you said it it said itself. The BBC
2:18:09
is full of crap. I mean they're just another person a propaganda
2:18:13
outlet that people should be they should stop paying yet to
2:18:15
pay a fee to watch them.
2:18:17
Adam Curry: I know it's mandatory if you even own a
2:18:20
television I know I know. Let me see what do we have?
2:18:29
John C Dvorak: No I got something from the last show was
2:18:31
going to do that then Well no, I'm gonna I'm gonna just play
2:18:34
this clip. Drag show law blocked
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Unknown: Oh, here it is. Federal Judge temporarily blocked a
2:18:43
Tennessee law placing strict limits on drag shows just hours
2:18:47
before it was set to go into effect. The first of its kind
2:18:51
law bans adult cabaret entertainment on public property
2:18:55
or in locations where it could be viewed by a minor the judge
2:18:58
sided with a Memphis LGBTQ theater groups argument that the
2:19:03
statutes overly broad language violates the First Amendment
2:19:09
Adam Curry: really now so you're really pushing
2:19:11
John C Dvorak: this this these drags are distractions is the
2:19:13
show up out of the blue that drags show library time with the
2:19:17
little kids and all the rest and track time story hour dragged
2:19:21
drag time story hour. It's like what is it what is the point of
2:19:25
this? It was really important why are they why is it they're
2:19:28
making this a hill to stand down there they are gonna fight to
2:19:31
the death.
2:19:33
Adam Curry: Well, that's I think that's the point. The point is
2:19:35
to have fights and to have death that that I think is the point.
2:19:38
As we discussed on the last show, Black Lives Matter trans
2:19:42
is the New Black Lives Matter so you know, drag is trans. The
2:19:47
Bill Maher show real time was very interesting. Besides having
2:19:51
Governor Sununu on who clearly is going to run but was saying
2:19:54
he was in whatever fine. Bill Maher he had on it A guy who
2:20:00
wrote a book about he's gay guy, and I'm not quite sure he was
2:20:04
clearly a leftist. But then he also had at the same time on the
2:20:07
panel, lieutenant governor from Virginia, winsome Earl Sears,
2:20:11
the Jamaican lady who famously took a picture with her and with
2:20:16
an AR 15. She was a Marine. So, you know, so she's pro gun. I
2:20:23
only have a very short clip, just kind of explain what
2:20:26
happened because I tried to clip it. But you know, I was
2:20:29
literally playing the YouTube video, which had the Bill Maher
2:20:33
real time full version. And as I'm playing, it went, went away.
2:20:37
And the set of Warner Brothers has removed this mic. Okay. So I
2:20:40
couldn't clip it. I didn't have time to
2:20:41
John C Dvorak: you. Are you watching it as at the moment
2:20:44