Cover for No Agenda Show 1544: Trusted Flaggers
April 6th, 2023 • 3h 9m

1544: Trusted Flaggers

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Adam Curry: Pierre expand the salon we're coming. Adam curry
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Jhansi Devorah April 6 2023 This is your award winning chemo
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nation media assassination episode 1544. This is no agenda
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affirming the affected and broadcasting live from the heart
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of the Texas hill country here in Cedar region number six in
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the morning, everybody. I'm Adam curry,
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John C Dvorak: and from Northern Silicon Valley where I'm
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wondering why anyone would want my zip code to see if I qualify.
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I'm Jhansi Dvorak.
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Adam Curry: Do you qualify though, that's the question. Do
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you qualify? Do you qualify? I don't know. What was the
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qualification for
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John C Dvorak: anything? They weren't my zip code. You
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haven't? You haven't gotten full over the area. You'll see what
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I'm talking about. Well, no,
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Adam Curry: I have not however, as of today, I am full on fiber.
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John C Dvorak: Oh, you're on it now?
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Adam Curry: Yes. In fact, I was even able to up the quality of
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our connection on clean feed. Really? Yes five gigabits per
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second Yes, five gigabits per second, up and down. I am so
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jacked about this. It's I've been waiting, I've all my life,
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I've was the
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John C Dvorak: same as you little as your little wireless.
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Adam Curry: Shut up. Well, of course, it's not just the space.
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It's the latency was so great. Which is, you know, they have we
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have like, like a five millisecond ping or something.
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It's incredibly fast. And that's what enables me to up the quote,
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you sound better. Believe me. It's It's subtle, but you sound
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better because I can put clean feet instead of speech enhance
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or optimize. I'm older. Okay, there's that. But there's one
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other thing I noticed. And I always have to remind myself
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when this happens I have from the days when I went from a
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what? 56? No, actually. Yeah, think when it was we went from
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44. What was it 56k modem, right? Because we had was that
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the highest you could have a 56k modem.
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John C Dvorak: I don't know if he got a 56k on a modem. I
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thought it was 19 Two or Oh, no,
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Adam Curry: no. Well, I remember I remember going to 56k Frame
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Relay, which was remarkably better than any dial up because
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you know, of course, it was all this error correction and stuff
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that really guides that 56k throughput. And from there, you
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know, I went to ISDN, which arguably gave you 128 kilobits.
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And then if I remember at the office, the big T one line, one
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gigabit per second. Ooh, the whole office was on it. Remember
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those days? I don't think it was that fast. The T one one T line.
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John C Dvorak: One line was not one gigabit per second.
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Adam Curry: That was that's the max that a T one. I'm not sure
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if that T one is really the card it's not even the line it's the
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card can handle. one megabit per second not gig megabit megabit
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John gigabit megabit you say gigabit noise I will I meant to
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say if I did I apologize. one megabit per second Yeah, the
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whole office would be on that we had point cast member point cast
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and everyone's point cast would update at the same time
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John C Dvorak: Yeah. more memorable was the guy was
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offered a buyout for like 100 million bucks or something and
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he now
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Adam Curry: they didn't take it. No, no of course the road is
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littered with these people.
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John C Dvorak: The whole operation Live Journal I think
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at the same thing
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Adam Curry: so what what Oh, yes, go ahead.
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John C Dvorak: I was so I'm I caught a PG or a Pacific
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telephone guy ad open up one of those big boxes on the street
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and he's looking at it and it was wiring something up I said I
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asked him about a T one line I said he says oh yeah the T one
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line says he shows all these wires that go from you know
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point to point all over this mess of of wires. And he says we
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always always got a thicker wire for the T one line. Oh really?
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We always use this thick wire for the T one lines funny. He's
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the same guy told me about the squirrels
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Adam Curry: ah yes scroll the scroll thing is real. Well,
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yeah,
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John C Dvorak: he did. The story he told me which is another one
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of my many stories. He says the squirrels that one of the things
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that were their pain in the ass because they eat through the
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wire. They liked the rubber outer coating. So they went
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through the process of of developing an desoldered this
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plastic coating that was just laced with capsicum, the hot
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chili pepper stuff. Oh, they must love that piece. says he
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says he says it worked for about a month until they got a taste
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for it.
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Adam Curry: That's, that's like the stuff we spray off for the
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deers the deer don't don't eat our trees and they know what I
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do kind of like this peppery stuff, it's good. Anyway,
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whatever always remind myself is that even with the most subtle
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upgrades and of course, you know, my, like the the network
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card in or the Wi Fi card in the billing that I have it's 300
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megabits so I mean, I had to plug it in to see five five
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gigabits per second, but even at a consistent 300 up and down
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with that very short ping time you get more done. It's it's
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seconds per time you hit a webpage sometimes. So you're
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winning minutes an hour, you get more done. I always forget about
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that. It's like Oh, wow.
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John C Dvorak: And I'm like until you're jacked. I am jacked
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up about it. I mean two lightning bolt his whole
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Adam Curry: I still have a backup. I'm keeping I'm cutting
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the cord spectrum is out of here at the end of the end of this
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month spectrums out. Over expensive crap with stuff I
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don't watch an OTA is in. I'm cited.
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John C Dvorak: The Yeah, well, you'll find out about getting
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your zip code. Oh, all right.
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Adam Curry: So I have to start off with something cuz some new
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stuff has come to light. And I think is pretty important for a
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lot of what we'll be discussing in the future. And it really
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starts with a mia culpa on my part, I was wrong about Dylan
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Mulvaney, well, partially wrong. But in general, I can be seen as
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wrong about this Bud Light and Dylan Mulvaney so called
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promotion?
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John C Dvorak: Well, your let me back up. You were wrong by but
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it was your reviewer wrong, because you took it from a
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theoretical basis, which I think is something we do on the show a
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lot, and I think is valid. And the theoretical basis was the
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following. Just to remind everybody, okay, you had worked
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for these people. And you knew how they thought, and you could
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not see in a million years how they would go along with
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something so stupid as this. Well, even
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Adam Curry: even worse. But well, let me let me go. Let me
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step back just a little bit more, because I even tweeted
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that this can that was being shown on social media, with
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Dylan Mulvaney 's face on it. I said that that has to be AI,
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because to take it one step further than what we discussed
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on the show. I mean, okay, in 1996, I have just started my own
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company, I'd left MTV and I got a call from Robert McCauley. Bob
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McCauley from Anheuser Busch and St. Louis. He says, Hello, I saw
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what you did with the Grammy Awards we had done. So we called
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it the first cyber cast for the Grammy Awards, which was
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basically see you see me camera one frame a second and Casio
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sponsored it with their brand new digital camera, which you
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had to take the card out and put into your laptop. And it was all
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slow, but it was new. I said, I saw what you do. I'd like to
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talk to you about a website. So I said, Hold on a second, let me
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get sales department put on different hats Hello, sales
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department here. And Bob said, I'd like you to come to St.
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Louis, I want to talk about a website for Anheuser Busch for
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Budweiser. So we go, and, and so they wanted to we wound up
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building budweiser.com Bud light.com. And we built they had
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it was a great company because they all this content from the
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Clydesdales to, to the sports that they that they sponsored,
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they had a lot of content. We also learned a lot about beer.
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How you know, because they were certainly still bottling still
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at the at the plant in St. Louis. In fact, we created the
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Born on date that came out of the website we built for them as
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we learned that by looking at the barcode on a bottle, or can
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you could determine down to the quarter hour when your beer came
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off the line. And so we said oh, why don't we make a little thing
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on the website, we have the we didn't have QR code scanners and
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phones, of course at the time. But if you fill in that number
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underneath the barcode, then you will get your beers born on date
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and it became very successful. But there were the legacy of
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Anheuser Busch Aug. Bush, the third nickname grinder and then
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he was going to be succeeded by Auguste Bush the fourth nickname
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woody who I always had my doubts about because when we met him he
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was in his office looking at Porsche catalog you know picking
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out his car like okay, I don't know what you're going to be
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doing with the legacy of this company. But grinder The third
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was very clear because we want it to have this born on date on
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the cam we want we want to have their domain name on the cam and
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on the bottles. It was like there's nothing ever going to
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come on out no you have to put nothing on our internet on our
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beer bottles and cans so now not gonna have that's an accurate
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depiction of how he said that. And after about a year and a
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half, you know we finally got them to use it in their some of
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their commercials and their marketing and some other come
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When used I probably Coke or Pepsi started putting it on
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cans. So they eventually they eventually said, Okay, we'll put
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it on the camps. But it was it was sacred. The Anheuser Busch
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logo, the Budweiser, all of this was sacred sacred sacred. So for
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them to even make as a joke one a one off can with anyone I
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don't care if it's dealing Mulvaney or elephant or
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anything, spuds Mackenzie wasn't on the can either the stupid dog
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to not only be on the can, but overlapping the name Bud Light
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that was unconscionable to me. Now,
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John C Dvorak: how many years ago was this 26
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Adam Curry: years ago?
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John C Dvorak: Times change?
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Adam Curry: Well, clearly. Now, here's the part that I was kind
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of correct on. So this was dubbed on on Twitter, certainly
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social media as dilla Mulvaney is the brand ambassador. Well,
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no, the Absolutely not. Because, you know, besides that, there
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was no brand ambassador announcement, there was nothing
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on their website, nothing on there. Nothing at all about this
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on social media. If you look at the hashtags, this is an
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influencer campaign. In fact, the contest that 1000s of
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influencers, participated in posting the same text about a
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$15,000 prize with the hashtags that hashtag Bud Light partner,
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and dealer Mulvaney is nothing more or less than an influencer
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who participates in this campaign. Now, again, for any
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brand manager to send even as a commemorative Hey,
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congratulations on your 365 days as being a girl, you know, for
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them to send that is is already just unbelievable. But okay,
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times change. So it's dealing Mulvaney is not a brand
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ambassador, but the damage I feel had already been done. You
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see, when you say see Kid Rock, machine gunning cases of Bud
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Light, I'd say there's a little bit of brand damage there. And I
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think there may be more than they realize, but I also
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understand now with the latest that came out yesterday. And
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again, it's Nike hires Dylan Mulvaney as brand ambassador.
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No, no, again, it's an influencer campaign. And I
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understand now what's happening. So many, I don't think Dylan
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Mulvaney smart, but CAA represents Dylan Mulvaney,
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someone who's very, very smart, and is saying you're
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participating in all of these influencer campaigns, which of
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course they do get paid for. Because they can't imagine if
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they said, Oh, no, no, you can't be one of our influencers. That
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would be the real brand suicide for any of these companies. And
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some, I think, was a Gooper. Kate, Kate Spade she's dead but
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Kate Spade company, they actually may have hired her as a
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brand ambassador doesn't matter. So this is going on. And it's,
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it's really crazy. To me, I mean, it to me, it feels like
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this cannot be good for a brand like Bud Light. It just doesn't.
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And it's rude. In general, certainly the Nike campaign
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where it's, you know, sports bras, are you kidding me? So,
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what this brought me to is what is really going on here and
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it's, it's a lot deep. In fact, this is this is just a
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distraction. And two things came this morning. And the first one
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is I'm very happy I received this I'm also sad about it, but
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I'm happy received this email. You know, no agenda has people
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across the board they deliver our boots up boots on the ground
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reports. We've got people with military law enforcement and
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education. In Me, you name it people in big brands, people in
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the medical field, someone's in everyone's an expert in one
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thing, and they will always tell us and we always share it on the
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show. So we also have gay and lesbian and yes, we have trans
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people. And then we've always read emails from the official
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tranny have no agenda, Ally Jade. And I received an email
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this morning that that adage well formerly known as Ali Jade,
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want me wants me to share with everybody and then it leads into
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what's really happening here. And this is Ali Jade announcing
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the official transgender tranny have no agenda retirement. By
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I'm reading verbatim, I'm sending this as my resignation
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as official training of no agenda after almost 11 years or
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so it's time to move on. I am by no way stopping listening to the
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best podcast in the universe. But I can no longer provide any
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insight to the show for this crazy transgender filled world.
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A population that can't and shouldn't be more than a small
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speck of a percentage somehow balloons to a larger speck of a
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percentage as now and now is in the new cycle to the point of ad
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nauseam. I'd hoped As the time passed, there would be a cure to
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rid myself of mental issues that had me seek care and then
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transition. But alas, it is now seen as normal and doesn't need
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to be fixed. It needs to be amped up. And then the drugs
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come and changes apparently should happen sooner and sooner.
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I do not wish any ill will on the poor souls going through
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this when they get older, they will have enough to worry about
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and endure. You too are the only one saying it and it's the hard
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truth. I am a medical cash cow. I have to get meds until death
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and there's a high probability that hormone treatments led to
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my multiple sclerosis a study out of Boston I believe. So
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1000s of dollars in MRI treatments and doctor's
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appointments followed then throwing the eventual medical
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issues that will come with age for being on hormone treatment
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to my male anatomy. How about not being able to control your
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bladder much anymore and always worrying about actions No, I am
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not a woman. I play the part of a woman in the world I respect
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and do not go into areas where changing is done I do my best to
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adapt them blend in as not it's not even appear as male or
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transgender. I know I'm a product of inheritance into the
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distance from the perfection lost in the Garden of Eden. I do
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not blame God for this I ask for his forgiveness and help dealing
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with this every day as I know I cannot go this alone. Keep
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deconstructing this and keep being honest, you are on the
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right path. You and John have never said anything that
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shouldn't have been said and I take no ill will from those
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statements. This has kind of turned into confession as I have
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no one else to say this to I have not strong enough to come
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out as an advocate to warn people of the dangers ahead. But
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I hope that you too can be that take it from older person
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there's a lot they don't tell these kids and will have to do
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and I've had to deal with from 24 until death sadly they will
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have to deal with from a very early age until death and it's
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not going to be easy road. Good luck and Godspeed to those who
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do. This kind of blew me away jar.
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John C Dvorak: She has MS.
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Adam Curry: Yes. Ah, and bladder control issues and all kinds of
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stuff.
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John C Dvorak: EMS is
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Adam Curry: yeah, just horrible. Horrible. So I come across,
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there's a couple of things going on. There's a podcast and listen
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to the afflicted podcast. And there's also a documentary now
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just coming out. And there's been someone sent me this video,
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which I think may be part of the documentary doesn't really
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matter, Jennifer be like or bilag be like, she's an
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investigative reporter. And I have a couple clips from a
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longer YouTube video which the I it's in the show notes everyone
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should watch. And this really shows that Dylan Mulvaney is
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just the distraction in the normalization of something much,
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much, much bigger. And it is, in fact transhumanism.
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Unknown: It's technology. It's the advancement of technology to
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improve, you know, our lives, but we never get a say in any of
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that, you know, we don't get to say we don't get to decide we
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don't get all the information. This is all elites deciding this
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for us. Right. And it's, you know, it rides the bullet train
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of the market. You know, everybody is profiteering off of
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this now, even if they have no idea what it's about, you know,
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transgender modeling agencies, gender fluid makeup
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photographers taking picture of transgender children, you know,
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it's everywhere. And this same message is being driven into
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their grade schools. You know, by second grade, they're
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learning about gender identity, taking hormones. And this is all
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brought in under anti bullying programs. These programs were
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passed by Obama and funded by the Pritzker Family, the one of
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the largest one of the most wealthy families in America.
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There's many of them. Jennifer Pritzker, was a, an Army Colonel
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he purports to be a female, and runs around with, you know,
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synthetic sex characteristics of a female. And he drives this
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ideology into into the psychiatric departments of major
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universities into other medical institutions, gender, hospitals,
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the military, etc, etc. And his company to Kewanee foundation is
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partnered with squadron capital, which is a medical device
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company. So he's following the same tragic story of Arcus
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foundation. Right, Stryker medical as a medical supply
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Corporation, right? And they're going to be profiting off of
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these surgeries not just, you know, so called Gender
19:31
surgeries, but human augmentation. When we when we
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open the door to these kind of radical changes to our biology,
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you know, the way that we're planted in the in the Eco
19:43
sphere, you know, once we let that go that together, anything
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is up for grabs, you know, they can manipulate your DNA they can
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manipulate you any way you want. And that's why these rights are
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I mean, from what I can tell these white these rights these
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gender rights are being passed. It's not about people that are
20:05
allowing their a medical attack on their sex. It's for future
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augmented human beings. I follow the money and money trails do
20:13
not lie. They tell you the truth.
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Adam Curry: So I'm kind of familiar. Remember the bullying
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laws that we were tracking? What was going on with that?
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John C Dvorak: Yeah. So there's a lot of Yeah, I, it's hard to
20:31
make the connection with that. But I think it was just a
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coincidence. It just happened to play into it. I think there's, I
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think it's one step higher. Oh, yeah. No, well then continue.
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Okay, we
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Adam Curry: go follow the money.
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Unknown: And so I started following the money. And I
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looked at all these different NGOs, these non governmental
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organizations that were really
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Adam Curry: huge, huge, like architects, I forgive her for
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doing this,
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Unknown: because foundation and Gill Foundation, they're
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mammoth. They've each given like, a half a billion dollars
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to spread this ideology through, through the cultures, you know,
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not just our culture, but you know, Western cultures, because
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they've, they, they fund other organizations that do the same
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thing. And they create this whole scaffolding, this
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political scaffolding to drive it so that you have media
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people, you have people that are being trained in politics, to
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get them into political institutions, like the victory
21:27
Institute, for instance, that's funded very heavily by orcas
21:31
Foundation. And like, for instance, Rachel Levine was part
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of that organization. You know, they call people from different
21:37
schools and different areas that are going to work for them. And
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then they train them to be in these positions to drive policy
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through the culture.
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Adam Curry: High enough yet. We're getting higher. And now
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have just like the Hollywood Foundation, the Norman Lear. Oh,
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yeah, we've got media culture and something that she coins
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appropriately.
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Unknown: And so then they have media people as well, like lad,
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is the media arm. So glad and consolidation are closely
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working together. And glad goes about spreading information
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about how people are supposed to talk about this, because it's a
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human right, and you don't want to offend anybody. Right. So the
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message comes from on high. And what I mean by on high is not
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Arcus foundation, I mean, Stryker medical $17.1 billion
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Corporation and growing by the day, in 75 different countries,
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the medical industrial complex is bigger than the military
22:36
industrial complex,
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Adam Curry: she this really struck hit home for me, I'm
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like, Yeah, that's what these RNA messenger vaccines were
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about. This is what all the trans rights is, human rights is
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all about all the stuff you're not allowed to talk about. And
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then going back to and you may know these guys from, from the
22:57
older earlier days of Silicon Valley and, and tech, the it
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really is a agenda, which at its heart is to well, transhumanism
23:08
to get rid of women, for sure, at least their baby making
23:12
capacity capability. And you know,
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Unknown: you can see this this tragic story in the, you know,
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along late 1990s, early 2000s. There was a big shift in the
23:23
culture from, you know, data from the digital age and the
23:28
information age. And it's sort of moved into artificial
23:35
intelligence, transhumanism, robots, nanotechnology,
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biotechnology, etc. So this is kind of where we're going. Now,
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this is like the future tragic story of this. But you know,
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Silicon Valley has been pushing a transhumanist agenda for, you
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know, since the early 2000s, late 1990s. So then Bainbridge
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meets up with
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Adam Curry: Gino Bainbridge does that name ring a bell? No,
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Unknown: another interesting character, Martine Roth flat
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Adam Curry: about that guy, Rothblatt, Martine Rothblatt,
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maybe
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Unknown: who is also a transhumanist and Roth flat is
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he's a transsexual, he's a man that's appropriated stimuli
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crumbs of women's biology for himself, and he calls himself
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you know, transgender or transsexual. He's very well
24:28
renowned and very well, you know, appreciated for his
24:31
accomplishments. So he's been in the tech sector. He's been in
24:34
the, in the medical sector. He's been in all over Hollywood. You
24:38
know, he's been on Oprah. And he's been on a million different
24:40
shows, you know, with his robot wife, which he created Rothblatt
24:45
wrote a book, and it's really like, it's really a blueprint of
24:48
what's going on in the culture. Now, this is his ideology,
24:51
working off of the work of Bainbridge whereas we're going
24:56
to disintegrate the sexes the boundary between the sexes.
25:00
there'll be no youth and age there'll be no you know, male
25:04
and female. There'll be no Transhumanism is like boundary
25:07
lessness you know, you're out there in cyberspace, ultimately,
25:11
while you're getting there, it's an upgrade and humanity melding
25:14
yourself with machines, you know, transferring reproduction,
25:18
human reproduction to the tech sector, in I think it was late
25:22
1980 He got together with a whole bunch of other
25:24
transvestite lawyers and, and transsexuals and they created a
25:29
document, which was the first the very first gender bill,
25:33
which brings this embodiment into the law, the sexual
25:38
objectification of female biology, you know, into parts
25:43
and making a human right out of that. Disembodied, well, where
25:48
he's going is full on dis embodiment where everybody lives
25:50
in cyberspace, we live in a virtual reality, we don't live
25:53
in our bodies anymore, we're gonna be up uploaded into
25:56
cyberspace. Well, in order to sell that to the public, you
26:00
know, transhumanism and just embodiment as a life. You're
26:05
gonna have to groom them and get them there. And the way to do
26:08
that is to create this ideology that says that you can choose
26:14
your sex. That's disembodiment.
26:18
Adam Curry: I know it sounds far fetched. But I saw this whole
26:21
thing. And there's a lot in there that makes a lot of sense
26:23
as to why this is happening. And why is it happening? Because
26:28
these people are insane.
26:30
John C Dvorak: Well, that's not what I do. I see it. And I have
26:33
two clips. By coincidence.
26:35
Adam Curry: There's no coincidence, man.
26:39
John C Dvorak: This was these are about something else. But
26:41
this was on NTD on NTD business, I believe. And they had Roger
26:45
Simon on. And he is a novelist than a guy from Hollywood. This
26:50
is one of their guys that comes on any kind of expresses.
26:56
perspective. And I think this is this takes us above everything
27:01
you've just played, to what is really probably about and play
27:05
this Roger Simon on communism.
27:08
Unknown: Roger Simon, welcome to our show. Thanks so much for
27:10
coming on. Now, Concern is growing among critics of Trump's
27:13
indictment that America could be turning into a banana state. But
27:17
in recent epic Times article, you say that the indictment is a
27:20
move towards something much bigger than a banana state.
27:23
Could you elaborate on that?
27:25
Well, yeah, to call the United States of banana state is a
27:29
little bit harder or Repubblica bygone era in the original. It
27:35
is not because it's too big and powerful for that. What is
27:40
incipient communist state have a slightly different form than
27:44
we're used to, but in very weird and ironic ways similar to the
27:49
People's Republic of China.
27:51
And you say that the US has been evolving towards this end for
27:54
some time pointing to censorship from the media and government as
27:58
examples. What have you seen recently, one of
28:01
them is where I'm here in Nashville. And as your viewers
28:07
know, we've had a real disastrous, awful murder here,
28:11
in Nashville of six people in a church, three of whom were nine
28:15
year old children. The murder was perpetrated by a woman in
28:20
her late 20s, who decided she was transgendered, and was a
28:25
male and showed up at the end committed these murders in what
28:30
white may call terrorists drag. I mean, she looks sort of like a
28:35
classical terrorist for the Middle East with a machine gun.
28:38
I mean, that's what she looked like. And, and this was reported
28:43
on as transgendered and, and of course, the manifesto that she
28:48
wrote has been suppressed by the government and the FBI. But
28:52
interestingly enough, the word transgender or transgendered was
28:56
suppressed by CBS, a major network of our country, for
29:01
reasons they don't want to make clear, but I think are quite
29:03
obvious. And that is that the dissolution of the family has
29:09
been a major intent of communism since the early days of the most
29:13
incredible revolution.
29:14
Adam Curry: Go, you know what, I'll give that to you. I'll give
29:17
that to you that the agenda above the agenda agenda of the
29:20
medical industrial complex is communism. I totally I totally
29:25
believe that.
29:27
John C Dvorak: It's the dissolution of the family. And
29:29
if you remember, the Antifa Yep. The protocol nuclear,
29:35
Adam Curry: nuclear family cannot exist. It
29:37
John C Dvorak: had to be dissolved. And you've already
29:39
pointed out that this this transgender stuff has been
29:43
taking over from Black Lives Matter. Now, trans lives matter.
29:48
Let's play part two of this.
29:49
Unknown: It goes in and out because they realize is very
29:52
difficult to do. But if you just if you dissolve the family, then
29:56
what does the individual have left but the state So the state
30:00
becomes your family and then you're under the control of the
30:03
state and you're de facto in a communism,
30:06
what do you see as the way forward for breaking out of
30:09
this, what you've called brainwashing this
30:12
not easy, but in one way is the old fashioned way which is learn
30:16
about it knowledge helps you realize what's happening to you.
30:20
I mean, I congratulate and TD for doing that APEC times as
30:25
others do it. But the other way is to elect people who are awake
30:30
to that, you know, Donald Trump for all his pluses and minuses
30:34
and, and excessive behavior. Similarly, he is certainly very
30:39
aware of this, and is working against it as as another
30:43
political candidate less known Vivek Ramaswamy, very aware of
30:47
it. Others too are aware of it. So you have a you have to elect
30:51
people who are aware of it, you have to make known the feelings
30:55
and you have to talk to your friends and relatives about it.
30:58
This is maybe the hardest part. It's easy to vote the secret
31:02
ballot, but it's harder to talk to people that you've known a
31:05
long time who can disappear on you who can alienate you can
31:09
ruin your life.
31:11
Adam Curry: Wow, this is so smart how they've done this by
31:16
abusing children. Because once it's children, if you can't say
31:21
anything Oh, no, no, no, no, my child was trans. You can't say
31:23
anything about that. You're horrible. You're a horrible
31:26
person. If you say there is sorry. I mean, yeah. Ah, man.
31:33
And then. Okay, so it does kind of fit together though. Because
31:37
if you want to dissolve the family, dissolve the nuclear
31:41
family, then you do turn back to technology, and all kinds of
31:45
CRISPR gene splicing God knows I don't know what what they're
31:49
talking about to do crit to be in charge of that,
31:52
John C Dvorak: and also sterilize people. Oh, man, let's
31:56
at a young age. That's a good way to dissolve the family.
31:59
Listen
31:59
Adam Curry: to Kareem Abdul Jabbar, John Pierre Van Damme,
32:02
Unknown: does the President have a position on at what age these
32:06
kinds of therapies and surgeries are appropriate? That's
32:09
something for a child and their parents to decide. It's not
32:13
something that we believe, should be decided by, by
32:17
legislators.
32:18
Adam Curry: We decide everything else when you can go to war,
32:20
when you can drink when you can do all kinds of stuff when you
32:22
can have sex. Most states, but now no, no, no, no, no, this is
32:29
not to be deterred. And I think that
32:30
John C Dvorak: if they decide when you can have sex in all
32:33
states, not in most
32:35
Adam Curry: states, all states. And I think what happens with
32:41
with people who, you know, people who sin will often try to
32:45
relieve their guilt by getting others to commit the same sin.
32:48
So when you've transitioned your child, and you see that it's
32:53
maybe not going all that? Well, then of course, you know, the
32:57
easiest way is all you or your kid may be trans, you should
33:00
talk to my doctor about it. Now, and I read the book,
33:04
John C Dvorak: well, they tend to the parents of kids who, who
33:07
they've put through this by accident or by peer route, or
33:11
pressure or whatever, all tend to be activist. Yes.
33:15
Adam Curry: And then when I read the book, that parents give each
33:19
other like, Oh, my kid may be trans what to do. It's all about
33:23
that. It's all about the political outfall of it fall
33:25
out, it's about, you know, what your neighbors and your family,
33:28
it's how to handle that not how to handle the child. And we know
33:33
families that have done this, and it has not turned out well.
33:39
Ma'am, these people are so evil. And anyway, when you have and
33:49
this is quite a statement from from the formerly former
33:53
official trainee have no agenda to say Hey, me, I was a cash
33:56
cow. I am a cash cow. And that is, it's the funny thing about
34:01
it is when you get to communism, there's a lot of people making
34:03
money.
34:08
John C Dvorak: Oh, yeah, of course. Putin is supposed to be
34:11
the richest man in the world.
34:12
Adam Curry: Yeah. So they say, but it's the other way of
34:17
knowing his friends hold it for him. He doesn't hold it himself.
34:19
Of course, that'd be crazy. Um, so I do have an idea, though. I
34:24
don't know if it'll work. But, you know, I think that I'm not
34:27
recommending anyone do this. But when it comes to this, you know,
34:31
transgender agenda online and these influencers, you know, I
34:37
think that you should just take any company like take Chrysler
34:40
and then just, you know, just post fake artificial generated
34:44
images of all your your transsexual brand ambassadors
34:48
and see if any one of them has the guts to say no, no, that's
34:51
not associated with us. Someone's got to break this
34:54
spell. Someone's got to break this spell. This is nuts.
34:58
Anyway, There you go. So we don't have to talk about that
35:04
because everyone's obsessed with it.
35:06
John C Dvorak: I was hoping you weren't going to talk about I
35:09
thought Dylan. I think Dylan Mulvaney is a phony. Yep. And
35:16
that's just don't see what the attention part of it is. I mean,
35:20
she, she, he, whatever, is gigs, likes to get attention does a
35:24
good job of it. The giveaway to me was always the video that's
35:28
going around. It's on YouTube. When Dylan as a boy was on. The
35:36
Price Is Right. What was it the prices? Right?
35:39
Adam Curry: Yeah, prices, right. Yeah, it was, like a nut job.
35:42
John C Dvorak: She runs around like a nut job as a guy. Don't
35:45
even guys, fruity guy would
35:47
Adam Curry: even say she when it comes to this person. Don't even
35:50
say that. That's insane.
35:51
John C Dvorak: And it was like, ridiculous. It's the same
35:56
person. Exactly. It was obviously some hotkeys. While
36:01
they were, I'll use that. I don't like it. Oh, it let's do
36:06
that. There you go. So it was wants to be in Hollywood. It
36:09
wants to be and is it as a as a person trying to make money as a
36:15
screwball, I think
36:18
Adam Curry: did very well. And Dilma is no reason for me to
36:21
promote it. No, of course not. But also know that it is
36:27
represented by CA, the very same people who picked up the high,
36:37
they did time's up. Remember, they took the after Harvey
36:41
Weinstein. And they did time's up. And they promoted all this.
36:45
And I'm sure they promoted Black Lives Matter. These are evil
36:48
people. If people don't love you, or your family or your
36:51
children or America, it a horrible people. Horrible. So
36:57
yes, we don't have talked about anymore. But we do have to
36:59
understand that that's the agenda. And I'm with you on the
37:03
on the communism part. And I'm with you on that. That could be
37:06
above all of it. Absolutely.
37:08
John C Dvorak: When people to write this down, and this is
37:10
something I think people should be aware of, because you were
37:12
talking about CAA. And it they're highly prevalent in this
37:17
in these in this documentary that's floating around, which
37:20
just came out about a week or two ago. And it's called, and
37:23
it's done by the New York Times, and they've done a tremendously
37:26
good job of it, even though it's gotten some criticism from I
37:30
think it was the Hollywood reporter who said it was a
37:32
little discombobulated, even though it's incredibly
37:35
important. It's called Sin Eater, to crimes of Anthony
37:39
Pelicano. Who's that? He is the fixer in Hollywood, who had
37:45
tapped pretty much everybody's phones, and ended up in jail for
37:49
17 years. For a bunch of he was Iraq. It was racketeering that
37:54
was going on down there. It's a tremendous documentary. It's on
37:58
Hulu and YouTube TV, they have it but you want to watch it on
38:04
Hulu as you can. It's two parts. And as was done by is produced
38:09
by FX and and New York Times is behind it. And it documents the
38:16
kind of evils that were going on in Hollywood in the 90s. And
38:22
2000s is just a tremendous product. I was riveted to it the
38:26
other day. revenant what's it called again? Sin eight are the
38:30
crimes of Anthony Pelicano sin eater.
38:37
Adam Curry: And any other big names that are fun to talk about
38:39
in that documentary
38:41
John C Dvorak: for the A's in their Garry Shandling's in
38:44
there. Whoa. It's got pretty much it's it's astonishing,
38:50
isn't it? It's just I would say it was more disgusted watching
38:55
this and anything else? A lot of the big law firms in LA
38:59
Adam Curry: know, huh, ovitz
39:01
John C Dvorak: Oh, hi. Hi. Up on the thing. Of course. ovis I
39:05
think I think that what happened to Pele kind of ruined over his
39:09
career that oh, this was a big part of it. And he was I think
39:14
CSEA
39:15
Adam Curry: Yeah, and he died young.
39:18
John C Dvorak: He did. I don't know what this is dead. No,
39:20
yeah. overdyed
39:21
Adam Curry: maybe 10 years ago.
39:24
John C Dvorak: Michael Ovitz. Yeah,
39:26
Adam Curry: absolutely. You know, I'll bring it up for you.
39:28
But allow me to consult the book of knowledge. Michael Ovitz died
39:33
in well, he's not dead. No. I thought he was dead. Am I think
39:40
about someone else.
39:41
John C Dvorak: I don't know who you're thinking about. From
39:43
Warren.
39:44
Adam Curry: I thought he was dead. Maybe oh, maybe the
39:47
uploaded him.
39:50
John C Dvorak: Anyway, he recommended this documentary to
39:54
listeners and no agenda. You admire it?
39:57
Adam Curry: Yes. Why do you think he was dead? Who was it
39:59
that isn't Then well you know he's dead and and I'll just I'll
40:05
just mention this let me see if I actually have it here and to
40:07
have a clip of this he Yeah, this one here
40:16
Unknown: this morning more questions around the stabbing
40:19
death of Bob Lee known as a genius in the tech industry, the
40:22
founder of cash app and the Chief Product Officer at
40:25
cryptocurrency startup mobile coin. The 43 year old was
40:28
apparently attacked around 2:30am Tuesday while walking
40:32
down a street in San Francisco's were in Caen Hill neighborhood,
40:35
an area described as residential and typically quiet. A local
40:39
reporter says he viewed nearby surveillance video of the
40:42
sidewalk not yet made public. He seems to live to shut
40:46
up as he approaches a car that is stopped on the corner with
40:51
its flashers on the car then drives away he falls to the
40:55
ground. He gets up again and then walks back on Main the way
41:00
you came but on the other side of the street and falls down he
41:03
collapsed and died a short time later Lee had moved his family
41:07
to Miami but was in the Bay Area on business
41:10
actually live right where he got killed. I used to walk there all
41:13
the time at night and I did started slowly playing Russian
41:16
my safe
41:16
Elon Musk offer condolences while commenting about crime
41:20
tweeting many people I know have been severely assaulted. Violent
41:23
crime in San Francisco is horrific. And even if attackers
41:27
are caught, they are often released immediately. San
41:30
Francisco's homicide rate is of averaging five murders per month
41:33
in the last year 58 at all compared to three murders per
41:37
month in 2019. But that rate is still far lower than other big
41:41
cities. As for Bob Lee, his friends are remembering not just
41:45
his love for technology, but his love for his family.
41:48
His dedication to his kids was first and foremost. Bob was
41:53
Father of the Year.
41:55
Adam Curry: So what everyone's talking about is how dangerous
41:58
San Francisco is. Scott Adams also posted a story like Oh, bye
42:04
bye got mugged at knifepoint on that same corner. I just want to
42:09
put out there you know something that I have not heard anyone
42:12
even suggest as a possible idea and hearing this clip it can be
42:16
even more possible. He started mobile coin which has real legs.
42:21
The mobile coin was big. It's integrated in signal. It's a
42:25
proof of work base cryptocurrency. I'm not a fan,
42:28
but it definitely had rollout. But how about murder? Anyone
42:33
think of that? I did. Well, good because to me that sounds like
42:37
John C Dvorak: first thing I thought of I thought he would I
42:39
thought it sounded like a hit. He was out here from and a guy
42:42
who is in tech living in Miami. You know that says to me, you
42:47
know that is abnormal? Yep. You don't if you're in tech, you
42:51
don't live in Miami. Nope. That's it. That's you know, you
42:56
know,
42:57
Adam Curry: I think it was a possible hit,
42:59
John C Dvorak: I think was a hit. That's what I thought when
43:01
I first heard about it. I never heard of this guy by the way.
43:03
You know, I guess he's some, but I was not in ever involved in
43:07
that part of tech.
43:08
Adam Curry: No. No, I mean, either. I just know about mobile
43:12
coin, and that he started Cash App, which is huge, of course.
43:16
And he was I was part of the square and by coincidence, I'm
43:22
not implying anything other than by coincidence. Elon Musk
43:25
finally does what I said he would do is he's ruined Twitter.
43:29
And he has that stupid dose dog popping up.
43:33
John C Dvorak: I gotta kick it a dog. Like you dog by the way.
43:36
Adam Curry: It's a shitty dog. No one likes that dog. It's not
43:39
a cute dog as an annoying dog. It's true. According
43:41
John C Dvorak: to Jay there, she knows what dog that is. She's
43:44
the dog expert. It says she used to call the shitty dog she says
43:49
that is indeed a shitty dog. Oh do tell the dog actually.
43:54
According to her and she knows all these breeds because she was
43:56
a dog walker for years. She says the dog nobody likes that kind
44:01
of dog. It's a she told me that breed I forgot what it is she
44:07
she says it and she says it has the personality of a cat is not
44:12
a loving dog. It's not a friendly dog. It doesn't like
44:14
other dogs. It's a horrible dog
44:20
Adam Curry: I'm glad we have that information. It's good to
44:22
know well there you go. That dog is triggering to me. I literally
44:26
go on Twitter less because every single time I go there I get a
44:29
full screen flash black with the with that dog. Yeah, and I don't
44:34
know about you. But since April 1 When you supposedly we all had
44:38
to pay for Twitter blue, which I never had wouldn't I don't have
44:41
a blue checkmark. You have it didn't have to. He didn't take
44:44
it away. That was a lie. Still there but I have sedang which by
44:50
the way it was there after I got the threat. Yes, that's what I'm
44:53
saying. It's still there was supposed to be gone April 1, but
44:57
I have significantly less engaged judgement. On Twitter.
45:02
I'm getting much less people sending me stuff or feeding back
45:08
or if I tweet something or answer something, I get nothing.
45:12
So it's ruined it, you know, and I'm not gonna pay seven. I'm not
45:16
gonna pay anything. But I think I kind of predicted he would
45:19
ruin it. I don't know if you're seeing that or you don't care,
45:24
right? You don't you don't use it except to promote stuff. So
45:26
you don't see much else at all. Anyway,
45:29
John C Dvorak: trim put a tweet up once I retweet something
45:32
occasionally, but they will take it down. Do you?
45:35
Adam Curry: Do you feel any less engagement or you haven't
45:37
noticed?
45:38
John C Dvorak: Any engagement dropped off? Five, six years
45:41
ago?
45:41
Adam Curry: Okay. All right. Well, that's pre I did
45:45
John C Dvorak: a I did testing and it was like, it was dropped
45:49
way off when it when I first went, I had like 10,000
45:52
followers very early on. I would get engagement, I would ask for
45:58
something and I get it right after getting to 100,000. It's
46:03
like 1/10 of what it was at 10,000. Interesting. And I find
46:08
that was started a long time ago.
46:11
Adam Curry: Well, in the backdrop of this, there's a lot
46:13
of fear mongering going on. Oh my goodness. Oh, the. We even
46:17
had Crowley, the Assistant Secretary of State PR
46:21
department, talking about how the cbdc is coming. The dollar
46:25
is gonna go away. It's all over. And right on cue. Here's Marco
46:30
Rubio intelligence Senate Intelligence Committee, big war
46:34
monger, big military industrial complex guy today.
46:39
Unknown: Brazil, in our hemisphere, largest country in
46:42
the Western Hemisphere south of us cut a trade deal with China.
46:45
They're going to from now on do trade in their own currencies
46:48
get right around the dollar stop.
46:51
John C Dvorak: Wait, you mean Brazil of BRICS? Yes. Brazil,
46:57
Russia, Russia, India, China, and South Africa? Yes. So so. So
47:06
this bricks, which has been around for what a decade, which
47:10
means they've been doing these deals all along. This is new to
47:12
him?
47:13
Adam Curry: Well, this is the anti China. This is the by the
47:16
way, he's not talking about Ukraine,
47:17
Unknown: cut a trade deal with China, they're going to from now
47:19
on do trade in their own currencies get right around the
47:22
dollar. They're creating a secondary economy in the world,
47:26
totally independent of the United States, we won't have
47:29
about sanctions in five years, because there'll be so many
47:32
countries transacting and currencies other than the
47:34
dollar, that we won't have the ability to sanction them, as we
47:38
are sitting here, you know, focused on some of these
47:39
nuttiness that's going on people that are basically dedicating
47:42
their lives in this country, to ensuring that it is legal to
47:45
mutilate children to do drag shares in schools. They dedicate
47:49
their lives to this, and we have a another superpower that
47:53
basically wants to become the world's dominant power at our
47:55
expense. And these people don't want to focus on it. They're,
47:59
you know, we had some person on the view yesterday say that our
48:02
criminal justice system is no better than what China is doing
48:05
with its genocide of Uighur Muslims. So we better wake up
48:08
but we're going a little slower than the one we've been used to.
48:11
Adam Curry: Well, I better start watching the view. They said
48:12
something smart. Finally, it was crazy.
48:14
John C Dvorak: So all over the road.
48:18
Adam Curry: I don't know that. I mean, yes, of course, bricks.
48:21
We've been talking about bricks for a decade, at least. But but
48:25
it is it does. It does apparently seem to be true that
48:28
that sort of that we've lost control of Saudi Arabia, and
48:32
right at the moment when
48:33
John C Dvorak: we thank you, Joe Biden, who went out and condemn
48:36
the guy running in a place when he ran for office?
48:39
Adam Curry: Well, exactly. And then I fully expect I think, I
48:44
think that that we started taking whatever's left in our
48:52
strategic petroleum reserve. And and because of that, Saudi
48:59
Arabia and perhaps other OPEC countries said, oh, you know
49:03
what, we're just gonna, we're gonna stop producing as much
49:06
we're going to make sure that the oil price goes higher. And
49:10
and now we don't even have much of our strategic reserve left.
49:13
And then the funniest thing did you see the Prime Minister of
49:17
Japan visiting with Zelinsky? No, I didn't know much. Oh,
49:22
everyone, if so that he goes to the season lands, he's got to
49:25
know the equivalent of a big check. Oh, look, it goes.
49:28
John C Dvorak: He goes to Ukraine. Yeah, he goes to
49:31
Adam Curry: the train he meets with the Lansky gives him the
49:33
envelope. Yeah, it should have had the big clearing publishers
49:37
house. Check. Look at all this I'm giving to you. I love you.
49:43
I'm giving this to you. Because while we were gonna buy oil from
49:46
Russia,
49:46
Unknown: Japan is distancing itself from the United States
49:49
and the European Union and it's buying Russian oil above the 60
49:52
US dollar per barrel. That's December the European Union, the
49:55
United States agreed to set a limit on the price of Russian
49:57
oil as $60 per barrel. is backed still in force is part of the
50:01
retaliation against Moscow for the Ukrainian conflict, also
50:05
agreed by the g7 countries including Japan. Barely four
50:09
months after this agreement. The Wall Street Journal reports that
50:11
Japan broke this agreement and began to buy Russian oil above
50:14
the limit of $60 per barrel. While this is happening at a
50:18
time when Russia is redirecting its exports to Asia to
50:21
counteract the sanctions imposed. This scenario coincides
50:24
with another delicate moment. So several countries have the
50:27
Organization of Petroleum Exporting Countries announced
50:30
last Sunday unexpected voluntary cuts in their production and
50:34
withdraw crude oil from the market.
50:37
Adam Curry: So our friends, our buddies, Japan said, yeah, no,
50:42
it's okay Joe, but we're gonna go buy Russian oil above the $60
50:46
proposed limit. What is going on with these people are morons.
50:50
They're really stupid. Well, who listen to by 70s Oh, no, no,
50:55
Biden, and Obama, whoever's running all that show. They're
50:59
nuts.
51:01
John C Dvorak: They're doing a poor job. Let's put it that way.
51:03
I got a thing here about bricks. This is interesting. Bricks,
51:06
which is the acronym it was originally brick and in South
51:09
Africa in 2010. This became this started in 2001. And who coined
51:16
the term where did it come from? Kind of stormy day Goldman
51:19
Sachs. I'm
51:20
Adam Curry: sorry, I thought was stormy Daniels?
51:22
John C Dvorak: No, it was Goldman same thing. Goldman
51:25
Sachs economist Jim O'Neill
51:29
Adam Curry: is there a clip I'm supposed to play here?
51:31
John C Dvorak: Yeah, I'm just reading from them. You wiki
51:33
page. I was looking when When did bricks show up as in 2001.
51:38
Adam Curry: Now it doesn't surprise me. And by the way, we
51:41
had I think the EU was also walking away from us. I'm gonna
51:44
see I don't know if I have a clip. We had Ursula, Queen
51:50
Ursula and McCrone visiting in China.
51:56
John C Dvorak: Yeah, yes. I didn't know I was not under the
52:00
impression that Ursula went
52:02
Adam Curry: Oh, yeah. No, they went together. They went
52:04
together. Sure. Yes. Okay. Yeah, definitely. I think they
52:10
actually went together let me see I don't have my I don't have
52:15
a clip of it. But I mean, I'm so after the after those two
52:21
Russian guys hoax to Fifi Lagarde. That's when I knew that
52:25
all these people are stupid. They don't know anything.
52:30
They're just complete dumb. So there you go. Do I have it here?
52:40
Oh, here's the OPEC maybe. See with this
52:43
Unknown: oil prices have been rising overnight after a
52:45
surprise decision by OPEC to cut production that could mean
52:48
higher gas prices are on the way. OPEC plus which includes
52:51
Saudi Arabia and Russia is slashing production by more than
52:54
a million barrels per day until the end of the year. Saudi
52:58
officials say the cut is to stabilize the market. Gas prices
53:01
have already been rising at the pump up 13 cents in the last
53:04
month. The White House is pushing back on the OPEC cuts
53:07
saying we don't think cuts are advisable at this moment given
53:10
market uncertainty. Oil prices fell last month during the chaos
53:14
in the banking industry. But now after the cuts by OPEC analysts
53:17
say we could see $100 A barrel by next year.
53:21
Adam Curry: hears from Bloomberg. I don't know if
53:23
that's what do you think? Well, that happened? I mean, it could
53:25
happen. I guess they
53:26
John C Dvorak: always push this idea 100 We've heard a lot it's
53:28
always been well, with Biden in office anything's possible.
53:32
Adam Curry: French President Emmanuel Macron and European
53:34
Commission president Ursula von der Leyen are in China. This is
53:37
Bloomberg we need to track quote we need to try to engage with
53:40
China strategically and speak with him directly about this
53:42
Russian aggression and the consequences for Europe McCrone
53:45
said in his speech at the French Embassy a day before meeting
53:48
Chinese president Zhi Jing ping, which may be today. So this is
53:53
this is the EU meaning with our arch enemy. How does that work?
54:00
And what you don't have to
54:01
John C Dvorak: do how do we do trading with our arch enemy to
54:04
the extent that we're still taking a beating? Well, I don't
54:08
know what kind of arch enemy is China when we get most of the
54:12
stuff that you buy at the store from China tick
54:15
Adam Curry: tock, man tick tock, tick tock. You know what's going
54:20
on is tick tock man. They're spying on our children. The
54:25
funniest to head would head funniest to headline somebody
54:28
asked who was the funniest two headlines? I'm gonna say Do I
54:32
have a tick? Thomas, you do have a tick tock clip because there's
54:35
so much to talk about. Sales of tick tock owner bytedance up
54:39
over 30% in 2022 to reach $80 billion in revenue matching,
54:44
matching 10 cents revenue. And, in fact the article it's site.
54:52
It says that double digit growth revealed in a recent memo to
54:57
investors topped most global internet leaders including meta
55:01
platforms and Amazon. Yeah. So hello, this this.
55:08
John C Dvorak: The problem I have with just do it this number
55:10
is since tick tock is international and China is a
55:14
huge market. Yeah. They don't break out to 80 billion. They
55:18
have to tell us how much of that 80 billion is American revenue.
55:22
That way we can see what is really
55:24
Adam Curry: I'm with you, but it does come back to back with this
55:28
article from CNBC. As Chief Financial Officer of Google Ruth
55:35
Porat, the kicked off multi year employee service cuts we are big
55:42
these are big multi year efforts. She said our company
55:45
wide okay are on durable savings which okay our mean? What's that
55:49
acronym? Mean?
55:50
John C Dvorak: I have no idea.
55:51
Adam Curry: They are cutting muffins on Monday. There I'm not
55:56
kidding. This is in the car. He
55:57
John C Dvorak: does say that. Really? You know, they cut him
55:59
they've cut muffins, but usually on Monday.
56:02
Adam Curry: Well, Mondays they would they were they were making
56:04
too many muffins on Monday. We literally says in the article.
56:08
We've baked too many muffins on Monday. Which and my favorite is
56:14
no more personal staplers.
56:17
John C Dvorak: Yes, the state which actually Horowitz and I
56:19
talked about this on VHS like and the stapler thing kept
56:23
cropping up and we're both what do they use staplers for in a
56:27
paperless office? A? And how many staples do they need most?
56:32
And why do you have to cut back as they keep buying more and
56:35
more staplers? I mean, what is somebody selling him on the
56:37
side? What was the deal with these staplers?
56:41
Adam Curry: Well, what really needs to happen is issues these
56:46
are mostly minor adjustments. But she says now that most of us
56:50
are in office three days a week we've noticed our supply demand
56:53
ratios are a bit out of sync we bake too many muffins on Monday,
56:57
we sit CMBC I can't believe she said this out loud. We've seen
57:04
Google buses run with just one passenger and offered yoga
57:07
classes on a Friday afternoon when folks are more likely to be
57:10
working home as a result we may close cafes on Mondays and
57:14
Fridays and shut down some facilities that are
57:16
underutilized How bad is it when you have to do this? Well really
57:23
it comes down to this this year one this is an email from her
57:27
this year one of our important company OKRs shown with that is
57:30
it's delivered durable savings through improved velocity and
57:33
efficiency all pas and functions were Wait
57:37
John C Dvorak: What's velocity
57:39
Adam Curry: spending money to fast the way
57:42
John C Dvorak: to improve you when you start hearing the I've
57:44
got actually some clips with guys like this yak and because
57:47
it's their AI clips. These guys are talking through their hats
57:50
did just use the word velocity what does it mean?
57:53
Adam Curry: Well, I think you're onto something because the in
57:56
the same paragraph let me finish it out through improve velocity
58:00
and efficiency all pas whatever that is and functions are
58:03
working toward this velocity and efficiency Googlers have at
58:08
that's an almost sounds like something you take out of your
58:09
nose like a booger. Googlers have asked for more detail. So
58:13
we're sharing more information below. This work is particularly
58:17
vital because of our recent growth. The challenging economic
58:21
environment tick tock and our incredible investment
58:25
opportunities to drive technology forward particularly
58:29
in AI. We improve machine utilization narrowed our real
58:35
estate investment tightened our belt on travel and entertainment
58:38
budgets, cafes, micro kitchens, and mobile phone usage and
58:42
remove the hybrid vehicle subsidy.
58:45
John C Dvorak: With mobile phone usage, you're using your flat
58:49
fee per month
58:49
Adam Curry: now. That means they're taking them away and
58:52
you'll have to keep your laptop longer, you don't get a new
58:54
laptop as soon we've removed the hybrid vehicle subsidy, burn
59:00
gas. Since then, we've continued to rebalance based on data about
59:05
how programs and services are being used. We focused on
59:09
distributing our compute workloads even more efficiently.
59:14
Getting more of our servers and getting more out of our servers
59:18
and data centers. We've already made progress with these efforts
59:21
and will continue to drive efficiencies. This work adds up
59:24
to edge adds up given infrastructure is one of our
59:27
largest areas of investment. And here it is, as we apply our
59:31
efficient and well tuned infrastructure and software to
59:35
machine learning. We're continuing to discover more
59:38
scalable and efficient ways to train and serve models. They're
59:43
so all in on this AI bullcrap it's bankrupting them, and they
59:47
do not have a revenue model for it. No one's going to pay for
59:51
this junk. I think they're lost. I think this they're in huge
59:56
trouble.
1:00:00
John C Dvorak: Well, I don't know how much trouble they're in
1:00:02
there get revenues that are unbelievable even if they
1:00:04
dropped by half.
1:00:06
Adam Curry: Well, it sounds to me like they're, they say we've
1:00:08
been here before backscene play key we've yes, we've been here
1:00:12
before. I'm quoting back in 2008 our expenses were growing faster
1:00:17
than our revenue. So that's clearly what's happening right
1:00:20
now. Expenses are higher or growing faster as code for
1:00:25
higher faster than our revenue. Because they're all in on this
1:00:30
oh ay ay ay ay Google bar doesn't work. Oh, how are we
1:00:33
gonna? We got to charge people for it. No one's gonna pay
1:00:38
nobody All right, you got let's do some let's do some AI clips.
1:00:41
And before we do that, the Adam curry no agenda Turing test of
1:00:46
this bull crap. Do you remember what it is?
1:00:50
John C Dvorak: No, yeah, you did? Well, well, you know what a
1:00:53
Turing test is which is the ability of a computer to emulate
1:00:56
a human to such an extreme that no one can tell. Right? Right.
1:00:59
And you have made the, the assertion that under all
1:01:04
circumstances where there is written, draw drawed or spoken
1:01:11
that you can always spot it. Yo, you are the Turing test. No.
1:01:15
Adam Curry: Incorrect. Turing test was the first AI AGI by the
1:01:21
way listen, watch. Say it right. AGI is the way all the cool kids
1:01:23
are saying it was AGI artificial generated intelligence. All the
1:01:29
cool cars never
1:01:30
John C Dvorak: heard this. I know you will. I'm not a cool
1:01:32
kid. So there's that.
1:01:33
Adam Curry: Hey, by the way, man, happy birthday.
1:01:36
John C Dvorak: Thank you. Thank you. And thanks. So the people I
1:01:38
got a lot of people that donated the $71 necessary to appease the
1:01:43
constant complaining about our donations. Yeah, that
1:01:46
Adam Curry: that worked out well for you. It did. Yes. So no, my
1:01:50
Turing test for this AGI is can you have any type of AGI machine
1:01:57
create an audio file that that replicates President Trump? And
1:02:04
I said, No one can do it cannot be done. Yeah. And we
1:02:08
John C Dvorak: got it. We got a copy of one from one of our
1:02:11
producers and he won't say where it came from.
1:02:14
Adam Curry: No, listen to this genius one.
1:02:16
Unknown: I hear good things about Adam curry. Nice guy. Good
1:02:19
guy created podcasts. Wonderful thing. He's a funny guy. But his
1:02:24
co host, John C. Dvorak is funnier. No,
1:02:26
Adam Curry: this is not even close. You think this was good?
1:02:31
John C Dvorak: They got to cadence down a little bit at the
1:02:34
beginning, very little bit, but a little bit and the rest, but
1:02:39
it falls apart. At the end. We're just going to sound like
1:02:41
the same guy. The beginning guy doesn't suddenly forget the end.
1:02:44
Adam Curry: But it's also it's not how he sounds. It's what
1:02:47
he's saying. Trump would never say this.
1:02:49
John C Dvorak: Well, there's always going to be the case.
1:02:52
Thank you. I don't know if anybody can find this. But
1:02:55
somebody did send a copy to me, which is Jamie Foxx.
1:03:01
Adam Curry: Yeah, I didn't even want to play that. It was so
1:03:04
bad.
1:03:05
John C Dvorak: Well, I thought it was interesting. I thought it
1:03:07
was good. Really? And I thought what was interesting is he's the
1:03:11
only guy I've heard so far that does both this the quiet Trump
1:03:16
and the yelling Trump. Okay, well, I'd have as he does the
1:03:20
yelling Trump at the end. Even though the the mic it down so
1:03:23
you can barely hear it. But that yelling Trump I think is the
1:03:26
harder Trump to do. She was just too long to play. It's pretty
1:03:32
long.
1:03:34
Adam Curry: Yeah. Yeah,
1:03:35
John C Dvorak: I hear that people go look it up.
1:03:37
Adam Curry: I can just play a little bit of a just so you can
1:03:39
hear and it works for like a little bit. Just but it remember
1:03:44
you have to sustain this. And has to be the type of jokes you
1:03:47
would make. It has to be the cadence you would have. I mean,
1:03:51
nothing is like okay, yeah, right. I mean, people can
1:03:53
impersonate I'm sure lots of stuff sounded great.
1:03:59
Unknown: I know area he's a great person. He couldn't vote
1:04:02
for me at the time. Now they can vote to me once he gets out. I
1:04:05
love Snoop D O double check brake pads. So do you love them?
1:04:09
I love Excuse me, excuse me.
1:04:12
Adam Curry: That's what comedians will use the always an
1:04:15
actor's will use something they can replicate with Excuse me,
1:04:18
excuse me. Almost anybody can do it now but there's no AI This is
1:04:22
Jamie Foxx is not AI. I never said it was a no I know. I'm
1:04:27
just saying that until someone fools me with a Donald Trump
1:04:32
audio bite doesn't have to be video even. It's not there.
1:04:37
John C Dvorak: Yeah, well, we're waiting.
1:04:40
Adam Curry: Are you all in on this? You believe this stuff is?
1:04:42
I mean, I thought we agreed that this is bunk.
1:04:45
John C Dvorak: Expense never said that. It was bunk guys.
1:04:48
We're talking about trying to copy somebody's voice. I think
1:04:51
that I said that overtime. I think it can be accomplished.
1:04:54
You might be right about the content might never be what the
1:04:57
person would do, but that's always going to be The case?
1:05:00
Well, that's the idea. The idea is to duplicate somebody's voice
1:05:04
so perfectly, and the content would be something that would
1:05:07
get started World war three. So that content is still the issue.
1:05:11
Yeah,
1:05:12
Adam Curry: exactly. So that's why I'm saying AI AGI is just
1:05:15
not going to happen. It's not going to world AGI. Okay, you'll
1:05:20
hear it everywhere. Yeah.
1:05:23
John C Dvorak: Well, you don't hear it in this report. And this
1:05:25
is the this is the AI meta one. We start with these clips. And
1:05:32
then there's a lot. There's 12356 clips here, but not all of
1:05:37
them are very long. Let's go with this.
1:05:40
Unknown: Facebook parents company Mehta released a new
1:05:42
artificial intelligence model today. It's called the segment
1:05:46
anything Model or SAM. It can pick out objects and outline
1:05:50
them in images and videos, can also pick out items outside of
1:05:55
its training. Objects can be selected by clicking on them or
1:05:58
writing a text prompt. In one demonstration, writing the word
1:06:02
cat prompted the tool to draw boxes around each of several
1:06:06
cats in a photo chief executives Mark Zuckerberg that
1:06:10
incorporating generative AI is a priority for the company this
1:06:13
year.
1:06:14
Adam Curry: Did he say generative AI? Yeah, that's
1:06:16
John C Dvorak: what he said. Interesting now. Now, okay, this
1:06:20
is the premise of these clips, meta has determined that if you
1:06:26
could draw a box around a cat and call it a cat, it could find
1:06:29
other cats in a picture. All right. Now, I don't know that
1:06:33
this is that new. But they think it's a big deal. So they're
1:06:38
bringing, they're gonna bring a guy on to talk about this. And
1:06:40
this is one of those guys. And I'll use the phrase again, who
1:06:43
talks through his hat, he you know, has all the buzzwords and
1:06:47
he makes it sound like he knows what he's talking about. He
1:06:49
doesn't know what's going on. He doesn't have a clue. But he
1:06:52
can't really you know, indicate that and actually say, I don't
1:06:56
know, it seems like bullshit to me. Can't say that. So let's go
1:06:59
and we'll catch up with him in a second is part two.
1:07:02
Unknown: Joining me now is Jake may Mar VP of innovation, that
1:07:05
glimpse group. Now this new meta AI model, it can identify
1:07:10
objects in an image. What is the significance here?
1:07:15
Well, the biggest value is you can search any image, any video,
1:07:20
any sort of spatial place. And the reason why that's valuable
1:07:24
is just imagine, you know, you're just like, looking at an
1:07:28
image. And of course, you can see cats and you're like, Okay,
1:07:31
well, how is that valuable? Because I do XR, I do. VR and AR
1:07:38
enterprise solutions. The reason why this is so valuable to me
1:07:42
is, if I have a headset, and I'm looking around, it will
1:07:45
automatically know what those objects are. So it will know
1:07:48
that's a phone, it will know that the computer will know
1:07:50
that's a chair, and because it knows that there's all these
1:07:54
sort of rules that were automatically be associated with
1:07:57
it. So if it's a doughnut, I know I can eat it. If it's a
1:08:02
phone, it will actually have data on it. And if it's my
1:08:05
phone, it will actually have my data on it. So there's all these
1:08:09
ways that it's going to be basically creating a very
1:08:13
frictionless experience, where you're going to be interacting
1:08:19
with the virtual world in a very intuitive way.
1:08:22
I see. I wonder if this is just the beginning. I want to develop
1:08:27
into something even further comment on that.
1:08:29
Adam Curry: Oh, yeah, please comment? Oh, absolutely.
1:08:32
Unknown: I think this is just the beginning. I think that this
1:08:36
is the early building blocks of where this language model was
1:08:39
gonna go. Right now they're talking about images. Now.
1:08:43
Really, I think that the real use cases is spatial. And if you
1:08:48
can identify objects in space, both both with AR so when
1:08:53
physical space and then also in virtual space, you can assign
1:08:57
value to those objects.
1:08:59
Adam Curry: All right, may I just explain what's going on
1:09:01
here?
1:09:02
John C Dvorak: Besides the total bull crap, and I wanted to
1:09:05
before you explain, I want to mention something for everyone
1:09:07
out there. When anyone says as the way you pronounce it, when
1:09:11
anyone says because in this exaggerated form, you know, that
1:09:17
is that is a tell for I'm full of shit,
1:09:20
Adam Curry: correct? Correct. So the Glympse group, which is a
1:09:25
publicly listed company, I know exactly what they do. Because a
1:09:29
guy who I know pretty well I would say is almost a friend
1:09:31
Joe, you toy. He has a company that does this. He does it with
1:09:35
people in the Philippines. He gives them an app and all day
1:09:38
long. All they do is look at pictures. And the picture shows
1:09:42
you a car and they do car and then they get a micro payment.
1:09:46
Or the question may be is there a man in this picture and
1:09:50
they'll show an image of a ring cam and there's you know, maybe
1:09:53
there's a dog, no dog and they get a little micro payment and
1:09:57
they do that all day long. Most of this work of course is done
1:09:59
in a India and these companies train the large language model
1:10:05
all day long. That's what this is. And it won't be perfected
1:10:10
until the all these Indians die. They just have to keep doing it
1:10:14
forever this this is the training that they're doing this
1:10:17
is this is the the incredible smart work that this a G AI
1:10:22
which you said which I think is very funny pronounced gay. I
1:10:25
think it's very interesting the G AI that that they're training
1:10:30
and this is Oh, and they can recognize models. Why don't you
1:10:34
just want just give give everybody a Filipino? Connected
1:10:39
connected to your horse? You own it or don't? Or donut? This is
1:10:43
dumb. This is a waste of money. I hope it
1:10:47
John C Dvorak: when he talks about that phone can be his
1:10:50
phone and then he knows it'll have everything on the phone.
1:10:53
How would that you have to do that by hand? i The phone
1:10:57
doesn't automatically because it's identified as your phone
1:10:59
become your phone? No. So let's go to
1:11:04
Adam Curry: clip three we're Luddites. Man, we're nothing but
1:11:06
Luddites.
1:11:08
Unknown: But it's that's the starting point. But then you can
1:11:11
also use like blockchain to actually make those objects have
1:11:16
a specific value and have a specific sort of security.
1:11:24
Adam Curry: Come on, come on. Did you extend that? Come on.
1:11:31
Yeah, I want to hit the boiling again too,
1:11:33
Unknown: and have a specific sort of security associated with
1:11:40
them. So for instance, if I were to pick up my phone, it would
1:11:45
automatically know this is my phone this is specifically my
1:11:48
phone and I would be able to access all the information on my
1:11:51
phone without having to have passwords or any sort of
1:11:55
identification it just automatically knows this is my
1:11:58
phone and I can immediately access the information on
1:12:01
Adam Curry: oh I'm so happy this is going to enrich my life it
1:12:05
will no this is my phone
1:12:08
John C Dvorak: and then you won't need a password for it for
1:12:10
some unknown reason when I have my real phone I haven't need a
1:12:13
password I use my finger I don't need a password on my phony
1:12:16
phone lashing blockchain in what are we talking about here is a
1:12:27
Adam Curry: publicly listed company everybody publicly
1:12:30
listed company and its starting point
1:12:31
Unknown: but then you can also use like blockchain.
1:12:38
Adam Curry: Thank you. That really worked for me.
1:12:41
John C Dvorak: Yeah. Blockchain with a boy always we're always
1:12:45
on where we could I think we're on the four.
1:12:47
Unknown: Yeah. Now is there any concern that comes with this? As
1:12:50
you know, with all new technology, it always has some
1:12:54
worry associated with it.
1:12:56
Oh, absolutely. With with all
1:13:00
Adam Curry: Absolutely. Any new technology by Oh yeah. We got to
1:13:04
be very worried about every new technology. paperclip. That's
1:13:07
right. That's what we're taking away. Googler staplers Oh,
1:13:11
absolutely.
1:13:11
Unknown: With with all new technologies. Yeah, being able
1:13:15
to search an image or a video or a special location. Yeah, that
1:13:20
that definitely. is the cause for worry in some ways because
1:13:25
well now that's information that we didn't have before. It's it's
1:13:29
kind of one of those things it's like privacy you know, privacy
1:13:32
is definitely a concern as this right now it can identify cats
1:13:36
but what if it's a specific cap? Oh no. Okay, identify people but
1:13:41
I don't believe it can identify specific people well when it can
1:13:45
then that's a privacy concern.
1:13:49
Adam Curry: But what happened to the danger I
1:13:50
Unknown: see and can this be combined with other AI models AI
1:13:55
programs like chat GPT or mid journey for example, can all
1:13:59
these things work in tandem?
1:14:02
Absolutely.
1:14:10
Adam Curry: Okay, in the middle of this sequence place I'm
1:14:18
crying please tell me you have more.
1:14:23
John C Dvorak: Yes, I got two more now. One of them wishes and
1:14:26
funny. It this is in the middle of the commentary about can you
1:14:29
get jobs out here? Why
1:14:31
Adam Curry: would we do four? Oh no, that was the for that. Well,
1:14:34
yeah. It
1:14:34
John C Dvorak: was for the commentaries that you can get if
1:14:41
you can get an AI job out here now today. Yeah. And I think JC
1:14:45
who has done work in this area is probably going to end up
1:14:48
doing this. Maybe not. You can get like 500 grand.
1:14:53
Adam Curry: I told you that that's what they're they're
1:14:55
hiring. me this. Yeah, but I'm not your son. By the way. I'm
1:14:59
your partner. No, but
1:15:01
John C Dvorak: JC is the one who's been doing AI stuff and
1:15:04
he's the one who could get a job in AI in Austin. No, here No,
1:15:09
I'm good. Or, or it turns out anywhere. If you listen to this
1:15:14
next clip, which is AI jobs, it's like this thing is so out
1:15:19
of control. The whole notion and you brought it up earlier about
1:15:24
this. It's like it's like a fad that's gone completely off the
1:15:27
rails. Listen to this, I spoke
1:15:29
Unknown: with HR professional Ira wolf first take on available
1:15:32
jobs in the AI industry,
1:15:34
industry such as finance and banking. A lot of the tech
1:15:39
people are moving over to those roles outside of the tech
1:15:42
companies per se, but into banking and insurance.
1:15:46
As you might expect the information sector dominated.
1:15:49
The sector is using AI are quite diverse. Other fields with top
1:15:53
percentages included manufacturing, agriculture,
1:15:56
forestry, fishing and hunting
1:15:58
and pricing one's agriculture fishing.
1:16:02
Adam Curry: Don't tell Joe Rogan he won't be able to elk hunt
1:16:06
with his bow and arrow anymore. Oh no.
1:16:08
Unknown: manufacturing, agriculture, forestry, fishing
1:16:11
and hunting
1:16:12
and some surprising ones agriculture, fishing, and
1:16:16
hunting. About 1.6% of jobs education was one and a half
1:16:21
percent management.
1:16:23
Looking at location, California posted the most AI related jobs
1:16:27
with over 140,000 followed by Texas in New York.
1:16:31
So a lot of the people from tech, although they may be
1:16:34
leaving the, you know, again, the apples, Google's meadows of
1:16:38
the world, certainly have a lot of other opportunities that are
1:16:42
out there.
1:16:43
opportunities that will hopefully increase as AI
1:16:46
technology continues to develop. Okay,
1:16:48
Adam Curry: I want to say something I want you to pass it
1:16:50
on to buzzkill Jr, for me. A friend of mine who I met through
1:16:55
the show, a good friend of mine that means we've had dinner each
1:16:59
other's house and we've had we've broken bread together so a
1:17:01
real friend,
1:17:02
John C Dvorak: right my rule of friends being a friend Yeah,
1:17:04
real friend.
1:17:05
Adam Curry: He used to work at Apple special projects. This is
1:17:09
the group that that actually the Apple Watch came out of this
1:17:13
group and they were working and they continue to work on the
1:17:15
Apple car it's real and he doesn't believe the Apple car
1:17:19
will be he says in our lifetime yes but probably not for another
1:17:23
eight to 10 years at least. He says when when that when Tesla
1:17:28
started a job and Apple decided there was a special projects
1:17:32
group was going to go and and do cars he says we were giving
1:17:36
people a million dollar signing bonus a million dollar a year
1:17:40
salary he said anything it took to get the right people tell
1:17:44
buzzkill Jr to go man, go go go and demand it say look, I really
1:17:50
need a hook I need a $5 million signing bonus and 1,000,005 a
1:17:54
year and and unrestricted sock they would give them
1:17:57
unrestricted stock. So
1:18:01
John C Dvorak: I'm going to clip this and send it to him good
1:18:03
Adam Curry: because I mean that I think we're at that type of
1:18:06
level again.
1:18:07
John C Dvorak: Ya know, when these moments happen, they're
1:18:10
they're short lived because people get a clue. You got to
1:18:13
hurry. Yeah, but yeah, you got to get in and get in and get
1:18:16
out. Okay, now, this is the last clip of this AI series. And this
1:18:21
is the final This is the old brother clip in the
1:18:23
Unknown: future the world may be filled with hostile AI systems.
1:18:27
This is according to a paper by the Center for AI safety. Its
1:18:31
director Dan Hendricks says even if some developers build
1:18:35
altruistic AIS, there will still be those who build less
1:18:40
altruistic AIS, Hendricks says the less altruistic ones will
1:18:44
out compete the altruistic ones. Now, think about this in the
1:18:48
business world. A lot of corporations that put profit
1:18:52
above everything else could use AI wrongfully they could have AI
1:18:57
systems helped make profit in ways that may or may not be
1:19:00
legal. Hendricks believes less moral AI systems will perform
1:19:04
better and may therefore in the future have filled the world.
1:19:08
Worse yet he believes they could even make ce o level decisions
1:19:12
without any oversight. Dan Hendricks has a PhD in AI from
1:19:16
UC Berkeley, he developed a key part of the deep learning model,
1:19:20
and he's been researching AI for the past seven years. So we
1:19:24
asked Hendricks why he thinks this is he told us that the
1:19:28
current AI race is reckless.
1:19:31
The current AI arms race isn't prioritizing safety. They're
1:19:34
largely prioritizing just making the most powerful products as
1:19:38
possible and trying to position themselves to automate as many
1:19:42
jobs as possible. Safety is a secondary consideration. So
1:19:47
without the public raising their voice about these sorts of
1:19:49
concerns, I find it I find it so unlikely that they're going to
1:19:53
stop by their own devices.
1:19:55
Hendricks says companies are locked into survival of the
1:19:58
fittest environment. The ones Yeah, played safe when it comes
1:20:01
to AI will lose the race.
1:20:03
Adam Curry: Okay, so it's actually a good clip because he
1:20:06
talks about the race he talks about all the problems and this
1:20:10
this group center for AI safety it's safe.ai know you found it
1:20:18
Oh yeah, I'm um I don't see any names because why would you ever
1:20:22
put your name on this? But I do see what are some of the
1:20:27
societal scale risks that see A I S is worried about I will
1:20:32
quote, AI is application in warfare can be extremely
1:20:36
harmful. with machine learning, enhanced aerial combat, and AI
1:20:41
powered. This is a sales tool. By the way, we
1:20:44
John C Dvorak: saw this by the way and Robocop but the
1:20:49
Adam Curry: AI powered drug discovery tools potentially
1:20:51
being used for developing chemical weapons, do these
1:20:55
people are selling to the military industrial complex,
1:20:57
this is not considered dangerous, this is considered
1:20:59
considered a sales call. Cis is also concerned about other risks
1:21:03
including increased inequality all due to AI related power
1:21:08
imbalances, the spread of misinformation and power seeking
1:21:12
behavior. Well, everybody wants this. Ah, okay. So let me get
1:21:19
one of these jump folks. One of these, one of these, these AI
1:21:24
fraidy cats, the one of the people who wrote the open letter
1:21:29
from an open letter that Elon
1:21:30
Unknown: signed at open.
1:21:33
Adam Curry: Andrew Yang, this is a lot easier, Shlomo Youdao ski
1:21:39
Realizer he like I think a laser Shlomo Youdao ski, American
1:21:43
writer on decision theory and ethics best known for
1:21:47
popularizing ideas related to friendly artificial
1:21:49
intelligence. He is co founder and research fellow at the
1:21:54
Machine Intelligence Research Institute, a private research
1:21:57
nonprofit based in Berkeley, California right up the road
1:22:00
from you. His work on the prospect of a runaway
1:22:03
intelligence explosion. Influence philosopher Nick
1:22:06
Bostrom 2014 book super intelligence path dangers and
1:22:11
strategies we are dumb first of all, we are dumb You and me are
1:22:15
stupid. I mean, we could be making we could have been doing
1:22:18
this a year ago this would have been the exit strategy of all
1:22:21
exit strategies
1:22:22
John C Dvorak: I to be honest about I don't think so. And I'll
1:22:25
tell you why. Unless we were getting that five that million
1:22:27
dollar bonus but for that kind of thing those books don't sell
1:22:31
nobody cares about this crap you don't need that book probably
1:22:34
sold three copies but and you know, okay, put together some
1:22:38
some phony baloney foundation Institute whatever it is you we
1:22:42
could do that too. Yes, but who wants that? daggone
1:22:45
Adam Curry: Military Industrial Complex wants consultants. This
1:22:48
by the way, love him has rom bloom written all over it. So
1:22:53
now listen to the same, the same Youdao ski character on what
1:22:58
many deemed to be one of the most intelligent podcasts ever
1:23:02
created by MIT? Super smart Professor dude, Lex Friedman.
1:23:10
You've seen this he looks like one of the men in black. He
1:23:13
wears black black black you've seen as usual? Yeah. Very smart
1:23:18
guy. Just talk so smart. And he's interviewing this guy have
1:23:23
a clip. And, and this guy looks like he has a hat. He's got a
1:23:28
gun, which which is you know, just flopping over. He looks
1:23:31
like a who's your comic book friend?
1:23:34
John C Dvorak: A comic book friend.
1:23:35
Adam Curry: Yeah. If you would collect comic books.
1:23:38
John C Dvorak: You're not tempted to succeed the Simpsons
1:23:41
guy
1:23:41
Adam Curry: agnostic but no, no, he does a podcast. He was
1:23:45
hanging Oh, Andy and not co Leonardo there. He looks a bit
1:23:48
like Andy a knocko. Okay, especially with the hat. Now
1:23:52
listen to him. This man, this man is smart. Because he if he
1:23:57
plays his cards, right? He could make $100 million consulting for
1:24:01
people.
1:24:02
Unknown: I had a conversation with Sam Altman. We'll return to
1:24:06
this topic a few times.
1:24:09
Adam Curry: And just a reminder, Sam Altman is the you know, is
1:24:11
that punk who runs open AI chat GPG. Of course, we have jet GPT
1:24:16
for now, which at all? This is the one this is the one that's
1:24:19
going to kill us
1:24:19
Unknown: keep turning the question to me of how open
1:24:24
should open AI be about GPT. Four was you open source the
1:24:28
code he asked me because I provided as criticism saying
1:24:32
that. While I do appreciate transparency, opening, I could
1:24:36
be more open. And he says we struggle with this question.
1:24:39
What would you do?
1:24:41
change their name to closed AI? And, like, sell GPT for to
1:24:48
business back end applications that don't expose it to
1:24:53
consumers and venture capitalists and create a ton of
1:24:55
hype and like pour a bunch of new funding into the area. But I
1:24:59
don't feel like now I think others will do it, eventually,
1:25:03
you shouldn't do it first. Like, if you if you already have giant
1:25:07
nuclear stockpiles don't tell more. If some other country
1:25:10
starts building a larger nuclear stockpile, then sure build, then
1:25:14
you know, even then maybe just have enough nukes, you know,
1:25:18
these things are not quite like nuclear weapons, they spit out
1:25:22
gold until they get large enough and then ignite the atmosphere
1:25:24
and kill everybody. And there are some things to be said for
1:25:31
not destroying the world with your own hands, even if you
1:25:34
can't stop somebody else from doing it. But But open sourcing
1:25:37
and now that that's just sheer catastrophe. The whole notion of
1:25:41
open sourcing, this was always the wrong approach the wrong
1:25:43
ideal. There are there are places in the world where open
1:25:47
source is a noble ideal. And building stuff you don't
1:25:53
understand that is difficult to control that where if you could
1:25:56
align it, it would take time, you'd have to spend a bunch of
1:26:00
time doing it. That is that is not a place for open source,
1:26:04
because then you just have like powerful things that just like
1:26:07
go straight out the gate without anybody having had the time to
1:26:10
have them not kill everyone.
1:26:13
Adam Curry: These people are insane.
1:26:16
John C Dvorak: And boring.
1:26:19
Adam Curry: This is the same. This is climate change. This is
1:26:22
the new climate change hype. We're gonna have a mediation of
1:26:26
committees and of Paris meetings, we have to have the
1:26:28
all the world leaders come together we have to control ay
1:26:32
ay, because it's junk heads. A Pierre Pierre, expand the Cylon,
1:26:38
we're coming. This is insane. I'm sorry. I've seen this. I've
1:26:43
seen this movie before. I've heard all the warnings. I mean,
1:26:47
this is please, John, you've been around long enough tell
1:26:50
everybody this crap,
1:26:51
John C Dvorak: right. Like I said, we got a letter from
1:26:53
somebody I mentioned this on a Horowitz show, which is we got a
1:26:58
letter from someone in one of our women producers. And she's
1:27:02
mentioned this and I assume she says, Ah, I forgot all about
1:27:06
that. If you recall, the first iteration of AI was in the 80s.
1:27:12
And they had the third generation fourth generation
1:27:15
product project gonna happen in Japan, they're gonna have some
1:27:18
machine, it's gonna run the world and, and they were
1:27:21
throwing money after dime after dollar into Stanford and
1:27:25
McCarthy was there and all the real ai ai ai, and it was nuts.
1:27:30
And then it all collapsed, because it wasn't producing
1:27:33
anything of value. And it was it was just a joke. And it
1:27:37
collapsed to the point where in the 90s, and I think this was in
1:27:42
probably the mid to late 90s. And she pointed this out and I
1:27:45
said I remember this. If you were a venture cat, if you were
1:27:49
a new startup or a venture first company, you would need venture
1:27:53
funding. You could not even say a i or you wouldn't get a
1:27:59
nickel.
1:28:01
Adam Curry: Well, it's coming back. And then the canary one
1:28:05
John C Dvorak: two years later, it comes back after the late
1:28:08
90s. When if you said AI you wouldn't get a nickel. Now it's
1:28:12
like it Jyotish everybody's forgotten all the people that
1:28:15
remember any of that. In fact, I had forgotten it until I was
1:28:18
reminded in this note about that little phenomenon that wishes if
1:28:23
you said AI you wouldn't get a nickel. It's now everyone's
1:28:27
forgotten it and so let's try this again people
1:28:30
Adam Curry: so the canary in the coal mine is wet. And thank you,
1:28:33
Elon and you ruined my Twitter because all of a sudden I get
1:28:37
tweet after tweet after tweet from the guy who's all in on it.
1:28:42
Please, people do not poke do not email me pictures of your AI
1:28:46
generated output of how smart it was to answer your your prompt
1:28:50
engineering, puking. Who who could be the canary that what
1:28:55
what Silicon Valley Tech? Influencer, if you can call it
1:29:01
that, who would be the one to show that we are at peak AI
1:29:06
hype?
1:29:08
John C Dvorak: Those under Marc Andreessen, there's a million of
1:29:11
them. Robert Scoble. Oh, SCO WASC Yeah. And so it is global
1:29:18
say,
1:29:18
Adam Curry: Oh, he posts his article. Listen, this building
1:29:22
God, the rise of AI is the new divine. Now, building God 1.0
1:29:29
That was religion. But then we had God 2.0 That was the search
1:29:33
engines saved. That was Google. That was God. 2.0 And God
1:29:38
building God 3.0 is artificial intelligence. Yes. And with
1:29:43
this, we will be able to control God to control God and to build
1:29:49
God in our image. I love this. You can and it's interesting.
1:29:57
It's a big a big picture of the end of stuff. When for some
1:30:00
reason Oh, there you go, that makes nothing but sense. He says
1:30:03
human leaders have created their own religions, often leading to
1:30:06
great human suffering picture Joseph Stalin. So they're going
1:30:11
all in on this. And I think it's is as a good, there's a good
1:30:15
chance it will bankrupt one or two or put one two companies in
1:30:19
severe distress. Remember that Google, they had to run all of a
1:30:23
sudden that, you know, they're retooling for AI, when most of
1:30:27
the AI projects as far as I know, it really run on Azure
1:30:31
from Microsoft. They're probably laughing about it. And then
1:30:34
Google memory, Google came out with barf. And the first thing
1:30:37
he said was an answer something wrong, the stock price dropped
1:30:40
$80 billion, or some crazy amount like that. Yeah. So
1:30:44
remember that. So these are, this is just, it's just, it's
1:30:48
bullcrap. And we've seen this, it literally, you've seen this
1:30:52
AI thing come around. So it'll be fun. It'll be fun to see. And
1:30:57
it'll be fun to see who goes bankrupt first, but this will
1:30:59
not end well. It's too expensive, particularly the chat
1:31:03
GPT for stuff, whatever it is, you know, people have to pay for
1:31:07
it. No one's gonna pay for that their model their advertising,
1:31:10
which an in a soft ad market, you're going to do this. This is
1:31:15
where you need to be, you know, to be tightening inventory,
1:31:19
maybe you're doing something to get your CPMs up, you're not
1:31:22
supposed to be retooling and spending all your money on stuff
1:31:25
that you can't get advertising on. Unless I'm crazy. I'm look,
1:31:31
I'm no business major.
1:31:32
John C Dvorak: Well, I've said this before. They have copyright
1:31:37
issues with this
1:31:38
Adam Curry: with the I have a note about that. The please,
1:31:42
please read this note. Yes, the note? Well, it's from the
1:31:45
homeowner. Second, it is from the copyright, copyright
1:31:50
registration guidance from the this is in the Federal Register.
1:31:54
It's from the US Copyright Office. And this Copyright
1:31:57
Office issued this statement to pop to pop a policy to clarify
1:32:01
its practices for examining and registering works that contain
1:32:04
material generated by the use of artificial intelligence
1:32:07
technology. So it doesn't answer all of what we're talking about.
1:32:12
But it says very clearly, by law by by the air. Once its recent
1:32:23
developers to use of sophisticated artificial
1:32:25
intelligent AI technology is capable of producing expressive
1:32:28
material, these technologies trained on vast quantities of
1:32:30
pre existing human authored works and use in inferences from
1:32:34
training to generate new generate new content. What they
1:32:37
say is only a human being can get a copyright, no machine is
1:32:45
by law allowed to get a to take out a copyright on anything.
1:32:50
That's not exactly exactly answering our question. But they
1:32:53
are saying no, you cannot register a copyright with
1:32:57
anything generated by a machine. It has to be human.
1:33:01
John C Dvorak: Wow, Joe, that I didn't know I was more going
1:33:04
along the lines of the of the liability issues, which I think
1:33:08
and I'm not absolutely sure. But it's either getty images or one
1:33:12
of these other big companies who are Rusi with this coming down
1:33:16
the road because they're not stupid, are already suing people
1:33:20
for stealing their images and then incorporating them into
1:33:24
other images in a way that violates copyright. This is the
1:33:29
legal issues here are profound,
1:33:32
Adam Curry: it's better time to become a lawyer. In the offices
1:33:34
view, it is well established that copyright could protect
1:33:37
only material that is the product of human creativity.
1:33:40
Most fundamentally the term author, which is used in both
1:33:42
the Constitution and the Copyright Act excludes Non
1:33:45
Humans. The offices registration policies and regulations reflect
1:33:49
statutory and judicial guidance on this issue. And then they go
1:33:52
into burrow Giles, lithography company versus ceremony, where a
1:33:58
defendant accused of making unauthorized copies of a
1:33:59
photograph argued the expansion of copyright protection to
1:34:02
photographs. And Congress had no a photograph is made by a
1:34:06
camera. I mean, that's that's how far they go with this. So
1:34:10
no, well, that photograph thing has been reversed. Well, they
1:34:14
don't say so in their, in their, in their brief photographs
1:34:17
John C Dvorak: are copyrighted because they're taken by a
1:34:19
human. Just because the camera was an intermediary doesn't mean
1:34:24
that if you write a novel than us again, I don't think you
1:34:27
can't copyright it because a pen was bald, or a typewriter or a
1:34:30
computer. I
1:34:31
Adam Curry: hear you I don't think either of us are qualified
1:34:33
without reading all of this to understand what
1:34:35
John C Dvorak: I'm talking about qualified enough.
1:34:39
Adam Curry: I think we're both qualified to know enough that
1:34:41
this AI is BS. But it'll be fun to watch people freak out over
1:34:48
because we're all going to die. And with that, I'd like to thank
1:34:51
you for your courage in the morning to you the man who put
1:34:53
three C's in the bricks currency, please say hello to my
1:34:57
friend on the other end. Ladies and gentlemen, Mr. Johnson
1:35:02
John C Dvorak: Well in the morning to you, Mr. Adam curry
1:35:04
also in the morning all ships at sea boots on the ground feet in
1:35:07
the air subs in the water and all the games and nights out
1:35:10
there in the morning
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Adam Curry: to the trolls and the troll room. We've had pretty
1:35:12
good attendance recently. Let's
1:35:15
Unknown: see how many of you are hanging out here
1:35:18
Adam Curry: for Thursday 1963. So we're close to our 2000
1:35:21
number that's above our 1800. So I think we're doing better every
1:35:25
single every single time.
1:35:27
John C Dvorak: I thought last Thursday, we had 2000
1:35:29
Adam Curry: No, I think we had way above that on Sunday. I
1:35:31
John C Dvorak: don't know if we had two Nanos Sunday was 24 I'm
1:35:34
not sure I think last Thursday was 2000. And it was because of
1:35:38
the talk about Trump or something.
1:35:41
Adam Curry: Oh, yeah, we got to talk about that too.
1:35:43
John C Dvorak: I forgot Trump.
1:35:45
Adam Curry: This well, not about Trump about the media. That's
1:35:47
the funny thing. We got to deconstruct some of the insanity
1:35:50
that was going on for sure. That is the troll room you can follow
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There are there are friends, we have blind people. But we also
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1:37:16
brilliant AI I still cannot train it to say to write down
1:37:20
John C period Dvorak, it comes out as Jay H en si de vorak. So
1:37:26
it's hilarious how it's going to kill us this AI. Along with that
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you can always fight Bose. Well, that's not just a typo. That's a
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complete missing interpretation. Of course, you can also follow
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look I think on some, some car systems will even even they'll
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show you the art on the dashboard as it cycles through
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it. And we want to thank the the artists, the artists, actually
1:38:18
who brought us the artwork for episode 1543 We titled that
1:38:21
buffalo feathers. And this was this was a funny piece brought
1:38:26
to us by Taunton, Neil. It was the podcast in the can. What was
1:38:32
the ken part we were talking about? We're talking about
1:38:33
something on the show. It was Dawson. Dawson can yes Dawson
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again. And it was a beautiful piece. I mean, had a little Jack
1:38:43
with with a headphone jack and little hole to receive the the
1:38:47
headphone jack and it's at podcast. And I mean, it was well
1:38:50
done.
1:38:51
John C Dvorak: conservatively. It was extremely professional.
1:38:54
Yes. Let's
1:38:55
Adam Curry: go take a look at an origin Art Generator. See what
1:38:57
else we had that we talked about. There wasn't
1:38:59
John C Dvorak: much else there. That was going to work. A lot of
1:39:05
hand cut
1:39:06
Adam Curry: costs for 45. Yeah, a lot of that
1:39:08
John C Dvorak: in that wasn't going to happen. No,
1:39:12
Adam Curry: they weren't really funny or great. I mean, Roger
1:39:15
Brown, he did an admirable job. I mean it professional peace
1:39:19
with 45 and the handcuffs, but I don't know it was like, that's
1:39:23
the one thing that never happened either would never was
1:39:26
gonna happen.
1:39:29
John C Dvorak: No, that wasn't gonna happen. They didn't take a
1:39:31
mug shot.
1:39:31
Adam Curry: No. And it also kind of puts makes us too important.
1:39:36
You know, with all the stuff that you just heard in the past
1:39:39
hour and a half. I'd say there's other things going on in your
1:39:42
world. Besides this
1:39:44
John C Dvorak: media, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump,
1:39:47
Trump. That
1:39:49
Adam Curry: was good. I'm gonna have to tag that. There was also
1:39:54
every single person that that was out there at the courthouse.
1:39:58
They all had their phone out. They were all they were all
1:40:01
doing YouTube and tic TOCs and reels and streaming live. And it
1:40:07
was it was a media event. Everybody. I mean, what is this?
1:40:11
This is so sad when you see that happen. There was a fight on
1:40:14
Sixth Street in Austin, a pretty big brawl, and all kinds of
1:40:19
people. Black, white, brown, everyone fighting and pulling
1:40:23
each other's wigs and stuff is not. And what is everyone else
1:40:27
doing there? It's sad that no, we're the people who go and try
1:40:34
and stop these things. They're gone. No people. Oh, I'm gonna
1:40:37
get some likes from this. Oh, I gotta get my phone out. We're
1:40:42
doomed as a society. What else was there? South woke.com. Or
1:40:47
you couldn't do better than South what woke themselves? I
1:40:52
think that was kind of it. It was just it stood out know that
1:40:55
we went Okay, that's it. I mean, drag queen story hour, we're not
1:40:59
going to put that on our album art. We're not going to put drag
1:41:02
queens out there. I don't think it would have to be pretty
1:41:06
interesting and funny for us to be hilarious. Yeah, so I don't
1:41:09
think that's gonna happen. Thank you very much, Tom to Neil. We
1:41:12
highly appreciate the work that you've done that all of the
1:41:15
artists do. It is incredibly appreciated. No agenda art.
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generator.com is where you can where you can see all of these
1:41:22
pieces of where people are already creating stuff. So I see
1:41:26
that dog, comic strip blogger, that dog is AI generated and
1:41:30
that dog is never going to go on our album art's not going to
1:41:33
happen. It's all part of our value for value model. And value
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from value for value works. Works pretty simply been doing
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the way it works is we do the show and you can access listen
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want. If you get any kind of value from if you live What's it
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club you know pay 20 bucks for laugh before we had a drink?
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Well worth it though.
1:42:02
John C Dvorak: Except the Shibu II knew that he did with the
1:42:05
with the artificial intelligence obvious is what he does. Yeah,
1:42:09
it there's a dog with no canine teeth. Kind of artificial
1:42:12
intelligence is this
1:42:13
Adam Curry: well, AI has a lot of problems with fingers. And
1:42:17
apparently dogs canines, maybe they'll fix that I'm sure but if
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someone sent me Oh look, there's this new thing but But parents
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can take their kids skydiving and then you look at all the
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kids that go wild with their mouth open you know flying from
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the pressure jumping out of a plane with a with a sky jumper
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and they have six seven fingers Come on stop insulting.
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Unknown: insulting me. The most simple rule
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Adam Curry: is like hey, I can't do it for some reason these
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rules not there. For some reason they can't get it done. The mid
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journey is the
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John C Dvorak: him mid journey. Anyway,
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Adam Curry: so that's the whole concept you don't have to donate
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the title of Sir up no jingles but I would like a deed Do
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Adam Curry: Danny Says he would also like a jobs karma to go
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with that and he says thank you very much and we thank you this
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is exactly what we asked for when what I just talked about
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jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs. Let's
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John C Dvorak: have nexus dribs Scott who
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Adam Curry: is about him grab we're talking about good old rip
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John C Dvorak: 9635496354456 I don't know what that means, but
1:44:58
I know because I asked him
1:45:00
Adam Curry: Oh, what is it? That's exactly the amount he
1:45:02
needed to become a Duke. Ah, Archduke I'm sorry,
1:45:06
John C Dvorak: practical man. This donation takes me from Duke
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to Archduke Dred Scott of this southern California. megaregion.
1:45:15
Happy birthday, John. Thank you. He goes no Karma Grip, Scott
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3368999.
1:45:23
Adam Curry: Yes. Let me tell you what that is. Even though we
1:45:28
don't have the new webpage up, I did tweet out. The Ibex pay QR
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code for people to donate with Bitcoin and drabs. God sent us
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3,368,999 Satoshis which equals this at the time 963 dot 54. So
1:45:46
there you go. That came in through a Bitcoin payment.
1:45:50
John C Dvorak: Yes. Now we should mention the Bitcoin
1:45:52
payment. We don't have wallets. The Bitcoin payment goes to
1:45:56
these guys that we they give us the cash equivalency
1:45:58
immediately.
1:45:59
Adam Curry: Yes, keep mentioning that. That's absolutely true.
1:46:03
And it's what we agreed on. And I agree that that is a safe way
1:46:06
for us to start.
1:46:08
John C Dvorak: Yeah, so there's no inner we're not holding
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Bitcoin.
1:46:12
Adam Curry: Correct, sir. FOD father is in Indianapolis,
1:46:15
Indiana in the morning Gemzar, fod father here with a donation
1:46:18
to help celebrate completing my 75th year on the planet. And
1:46:22
John 71st I'm still older than you you young whippersnapper
1:46:28
Happy Birthday, John. Thanks to both of you. No jingles? No
1:46:31
karma. Thank you for your courage and we thank you, sir.
1:46:36
John C Dvorak: Ashley Slater is next in Elk River, Minnesota
1:46:39
nuts in the morning and this is switcheroo Ashley Slater from
1:46:44
Elk River, Minnesota here. This donation is from our wet meet up
1:46:49
last Friday. The 2023 secret spy balloons symposium I hosted this
1:46:55
with my husband Ben and friend Marina. We were happy to see 17
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Comrades brave the springtime blizzard conditions to come to
1:47:04
our meetup. I made a 33 themed leather journal for the event
1:47:09
and those who donated to the show are entered for the chance
1:47:12
to win it we raise 370 for the show. The winner of the book was
1:47:16
Jody. Sir Knight of the East side's wife So Jody gets the
1:47:23
credit for this particular donation. Switcheroo.
1:47:28
Adam Curry: No, no, no, it's not true. It comes after that.
1:47:33
John C Dvorak: She was so happy to receive it. I chose to donate
1:47:36
370 on behalf of the future. Knight Kaladin pedis first name
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is pronounced Kaladin.
1:47:44
Adam Curry: So who So who do we give it to kaladan
1:47:47
John C Dvorak: was was the very popular we baby who graced our
1:47:50
presence that night to all of us came and said hello and
1:47:52
everything made it home safely. Thank you. See you next time.
1:47:55
Oh, in a serious question from Marina, do spooks really attend
1:47:59
some meetups? Are they there? There's usually apps I think
1:48:02
probably every meetup just one. So yes, you had one there. You'd
1:48:05
probably knew who it was. As far as I can tell this says Jody.
1:48:11
The winner of the book was Jody
1:48:13
Adam Curry: vs. But I chose to donate the 370 From today on
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behalf of future Knight Khaled and pedis. I as far as I'm
1:48:24
concerned that the preacher Rue it which is also highlighted in
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black are my in bold as Jay did that. Yeah. So Jay agrees with
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me. I would say that this is to kaladan Okay, all right. Good.
1:48:40
And thank you very much Ashley. For my beautiful because I
1:48:44
received my my beautiful leather notebook with the 33 on it. The
1:48:50
one that you we talked about when she donated
1:48:52
John C Dvorak: yes, they can move a week ago.
1:48:54
Adam Curry: Yes. And I decided to use it for my notes for every
1:48:59
single podcast I do. So you know when I write down titles and
1:49:03
other stuff, I thought it would be kind of
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John C Dvorak: last a couple of months. It's pretty thick last a
1:49:08
while you do 56789 10 podcasts a day.
1:49:14
Adam Curry: Sven Granholm and Hapeville ga 345 dot o five
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okay, happy 71st birthday to John C 45th. To meet 41st To me,
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sweet 16 to my daughter Isla the fifth to nice Leona and third to
1:49:29
bestfriend daughter. l all basically on the fifth. This
1:49:34
literally is the whole note. No jingles no karma from Thompson
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main. All right, thank you swing. Good note.
1:49:42
John C Dvorak: Yeah, Sam Onan Eden Prairie Minnesota 33371. So
1:49:49
I assume that's my Happy Birthday note. And all he does
1:49:53
the he wins today with the note that says thanks.
1:49:57
Adam Curry: Good one, by the way from the PIO box. So I also got
1:50:00
my area 51 A schwag with my with a little flying saucer and I
1:50:06
also got the Castel Solano did you get the costal Solana?
1:50:11
John C Dvorak: Yes. Well, I forgot what it was but yeah, I
1:50:13
got some it's beard and
1:50:15
Adam Curry: mustache wax but also well yeah
1:50:17
John C Dvorak: so ton of it. Yeah, I forgot a bunch of beard
1:50:19
mustache wax which I handed over to Brennan. Well, you can
1:50:23
Adam Curry: also Who's that? That's Jay's boyfriend. All
1:50:27
right. You can also use it on your skin though after shaving.
1:50:29
So I've tried that and it seems like a fabulous product. Next on
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the list. We have Matt pain from Taylor, Wisconsin. Our favorite
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333 dot 33. In the morning, gents, Matt here from the Coulee
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Valley area of the dairy capital of the world, Wisconsin. About a
1:50:45
month ago I walked into work when I slipped on the ice fell
1:50:48
to the pavement broke my femur. Two surgeries later, I'm mostly
1:50:52
healed but still bedridden for another week until I can
1:50:55
hopefully put weight on it. This is not a great note. Things Oh,
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here we go. Things in healthcare. No. Well, it's a
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boots on the ground. Who are boots in the bed. Things in
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health care up here are in crisis. Believe me, brother,
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it's everywhere. This hospital fired approximately 10% of their
1:51:14
staff because they wouldn't accept the vaccine into their
1:51:16
lives in the excuse for every hiccup in patient care or staff
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use use is either COVID or lack of staffing. The nurses CNAs
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physical therapists and providers have been great, but
1:51:26
there's a sense of a crisis that seems to hang in the air. We've
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heard this from people in Arizona for this for people
1:51:31
everywhere. So we'd like to extend some much needed karma to
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the hard working staff that are helping patients and medical
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centers everywhere. Yes, a lot of them listen to the show as
1:51:39
well. Shout out to Kevin Alpha Charlie seven keto November who
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despite changing call signs a lot spoke is a solid dude that
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hit me in the mouth circus episode 760 Kevin has a
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sustaining donor who is thus definitely not a douchebag Plus
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he's an up Arizona where no one slips on anything. I however,
1:51:57
while donating before have received far more value from no
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agenda than what I've given to a deducing for moi is definitely
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appreciate
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Unknown: you spend deed deuced
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Adam Curry: and then he says thanks for all you've done Love
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and Light jingles. I'll take a goat scream that made it sound
1:52:17
when my femur snapped. Have you seen that juice? And an LG why?
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Okay, well we have all of that for you. Oh my gosh. Can you see
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that juice? All done for you sir. Thank you very much. 73
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John C Dvorak: Sure, faith in Heidelberg, Deutschland
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Heidelberg thank you for creating this show. You keep
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putting out in those outstanding product I'd like to request some
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find a relationship karma cheers sir faith pronounced sir fight
1:52:57
sir fight.
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Adam Curry: May I will give you that karma may I recommend you
1:53:01
go to a no agenda meetup. That's where you can find it. You've
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Unknown: got karma.
1:53:06
Adam Curry: Connections protection. Brother. Eric
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hearkens Venus. Vina noise stops the new wieners town. Oh Rick
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Harkins. 333 Thank you. Austria I might add. Yes. Do you Adam
1:53:19
and John Happy birthday to you that one happy birthday to you
1:53:22
keep up keep it up you guys rock to this is my first donation,
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please deduce me? You've been de deuced and finally number three,
1:53:33
please give jobs karma for my smokin hot girlfriend. Eva.
1:53:37
Thank you for everything you do. And thank you alright. Jobs,
1:53:40
jobs, jobs and jobs. Or jobs. With a go,
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John C Dvorak: Johnny Oh, in East Dubuque, Illinois. Hey guys
1:53:55
discovered the podcast when Adam was on Jerry in July 2021
1:53:59
enjoyed Adam on headbangers ball back in the day. This is my
1:54:02
first donation at 333 Sorry it took so long I know he disliked
1:54:06
long notes but I feel like I have some content to add if not
1:54:10
relevant. Leave it at a huge as I can you leave it at a huge
1:54:14
thank you for all you do. I spend most of my adult life
1:54:17
working in the marketing advertising field convincing
1:54:19
people to buy crap they don't need. Adam quit outing all of
1:54:25
your secrets. By the way. I can tell you I can tell you after
1:54:29
long discussions with colleagues about social media advertising
1:54:33
tick tock is taking over and we have no doubt the entire China
1:54:37
threat is just a move to squeeze them out. There you go. It used
1:54:41
to be that you wanted to pay Google to be on the top at the
1:54:44
top when someone did a search that is not the case anymore.
1:54:47
Now that Tik Tok is so popular. Our research shows that 80% of
1:54:52
the under 25 age group goes to tick tock that search. Anyway,
1:54:57
thanks for the great podcast
1:54:59
Adam Curry: and we got that For my sister Willow who wrote that
1:55:01
in her thesis from actual Google infant from Google's own
1:55:05
research in Google Italy, that's how it works. And there's a tip
1:55:10
for everybody. I agree it's great content. Anybody who's in
1:55:13
marketing communications, there you go.
1:55:15
John C Dvorak: Rowling call your tick tock salesperson
1:55:18
immediately.
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Adam Curry: Today to get in on some great offers. Rob is in
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York South Carolina comes in with 321 dot 23 says donating
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and donating an odor an odor of my an odor. Hello in honor of my
1:55:34
smokin hot wife Jade happy happy 30th birthday. Please play the
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vocal fry jingle and add her to the birthday list rob from New
1:55:42
York South Carolina Of course.
1:55:44
Unknown: You know obviously, I read I read The New York Times
1:55:47
like all day long mainly on my iPad
1:55:56
John C Dvorak: sir Luke in Walla Walla, Washington, ITM gents
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Happy Birthday, John. Here's your favorite gift a donation.
1:56:04
Jingles please. Jill Abramson? What was what you were reading
1:56:09
Adam Curry: two in a row? No. No. Yes. For a vocal fry jingle.
1:56:14
That's that's our vocal fro. Do we have a different vocal fry
1:56:16
jingle? No. So it's two in a row.
1:56:20
John C Dvorak: Yeah, two, which is a good example of random
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number because this is ridiculous. Yeah, Jill Abramson.
1:56:27
Abrams son vocal fry, orange at jobs karma at the Pelosi Trump
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jaw of Joe variety a big one. Sir Luca of the south east.
1:56:41
Unknown: You know, obviously, I read I read The New York Times
1:56:44
like all day long, mainly on my iPad. All jobs, jobs, jobs,
1:56:53
jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs.
1:57:03
John C Dvorak: Brenda Romano in Petaluma, California. Hello no
1:57:06
agenda this is a shout out to you John and Adam. for
1:57:11
continuing to advocate for free thought and open discussion we
1:57:15
don't advocate one year any we just do it happy what Yeah, we
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don't advocate it for anything to be honest about it. Do it.
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John C Dvorak: that's a that's a switcheroo
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Adam Curry: Good point. Good point, Chris. Kenny. I should
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put that in now. And they sound like fun folk.
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Adam Curry: I would I would have to concur. Yeah, a lot. A lot of
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the no agenda ladies at the meetups. They they think you're
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a chick magnet.
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you're talking about Justin? Since JCD Oh, good since JCD
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read my last note kindly have Mr. Curry read this one in the
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nation.
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Unknown: Karma
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Adam Curry: and our last Oh no. We have to associate executive
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producers left I'll do them sir Eric from Auburn Alabama. $200
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with a C and then the last one from teal Busby. Jackson. Is it
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Missouri? Ms.
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John C Dvorak: Modesto, Mississippi, but what about you
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got who she is do because there's Andrus and Sir Eric, you
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did both.
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Adam Curry: I'm sorry. I missed Andrus. I was so short. Canal
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canal. Andrea, Andrea Vargas, Andrea vagas Canal Fulton, Ohio.
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208 simply said you guys kick ass and then I'll do the final
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one. Thank you very much, Andrew. Thank you, sir Eric. And
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then to Busby in the morning. Thank you, John out for the best
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podcast. In years I've been freely suckling, from no agendas
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content teeth for too long time to step into the community. As I
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proclaim in the meet up report. Today I am being de dos de
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deuced. Since my move from the coast to Jackson, I haven't put
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much effort into making friends in the area. So I want to give a
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shout out to surf Foreman and the MS. Metro Meetup group.
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Thank you for dragging me out of the house last Saturday. This is
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what these meetups are good for no jingles. Just karma for
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everybody in Mississippi who was who was hit by the recent
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tornadoes. As a resident of the landmass between New Orleans and
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Mobile, Alabama during Katrina, I have been there not to not
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only lose your home, but in a sense your entire world is a
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truly surreal situation that can't be described or imagined.
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Unless experienced. No agenda nation knows that, and shouldn't
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look solely towards the government at a time like this,
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which is what means to turn us on to what we can do. And he
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actually asked me to put this link into which I will do next
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to his name for a GoFundMe. It's just for Ms. tornado relief. Of
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course, we will support that for you so people can help and don't
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just look for the government to help you agree 100%. And he says
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full disclosure. I'm currently running a political campaign in
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the Southern District of Mississippi. But I've been able
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to divert 100% of my fundraising efforts from the campaign to
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tornado relief. After all, love is lit. Thank you for your
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courage. And thank you very much. And we will give that
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karma to all of the people who deserve it. Thank you very much.
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Unknown: You've got karma.
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John C Dvorak: And that will be the conclusion to our Associate
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Executive Producer and the fabulous executive producers for
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very much for supporting us for episode 1544. Our formula is
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this. We go out. We get people in the mouth
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I want to play a couple of dumb clips, media clips about the
2:05:18
Trump indictment. Do you have a you don't have anything on that?
2:05:22
I think I have maybe one you got an overcoat overview clip or
2:05:25
something or
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John C Dvorak: No, I think I said at least.
2:05:30
Adam Curry: Okay, let's see what to do I have an overview. Yeah,
2:05:35
here we go. Oh, this is good. Because it's Jeff, the gays.
2:05:38
Jeff, the gays always fun to listen to. He could just be
2:05:41
reading the phone book and I'd listen to Jeff engage
2:05:44
Unknown: with the former president's arrival here in New
2:05:46
York. The city is on high alert tonight. Trump Tower, the 58
2:05:50
storey building in the heart of one of the world's most famous
2:05:53
avenues is all but surrounded by security barricades swamped by
2:05:57
police and Secret Service. Police still is there are no
2:06:00
specific or credible threats but they are prepared for violence
2:06:04
are about 35,000 police officers in uniform in the city right now
2:06:09
ready to deploy. If they're problems,
2:06:11
they may be some rabble rousers. Thinking about coming to our
2:06:16
city tomorrow a message?
2:06:18
John C Dvorak: Sorry, I can't listen to this guy without
2:06:21
hearing our guy.
2:06:23
Adam Curry: The mayor, the mayor, there's a there's a bit
2:06:26
at the end where is totally our guy.
2:06:29
Unknown: There may be some rabble rousers. Thinking about
2:06:33
coming to our city tomorrow, a message is clear and simple.
2:06:38
Control yourselves.
2:06:39
Investigators from the FBI, NYPD and Secret Service are combing
2:06:44
through social media for any possible plot similar to the
2:06:48
January 6 attack. They are seeing calls for violence
2:06:52
directed at government officials, including Manhattan
2:06:55
district attorney Alvin Bragg whose security was recently
2:06:59
increased
2:07:00
investigating any threats that may be made to the DEA or any of
2:07:03
his his staff.
2:07:04
New York City Mayor Eric Adams assembled.
2:07:08
Adam Curry: Even Bill Gates is doing it now. New York City
2:07:10
Mayor he even said Mayor like the mayor
2:07:13
Unknown: to the DA or any of his his staff.
2:07:15
New York City Mayor Eric Adams singled out Georgia Republican
2:07:18
Marjorie Taylor Greene who was joining a pro Trump rally near
2:07:22
Manhattan criminal court tomorrow.
2:07:24
People like Marjorie Taylor Greene, who is known to spread
2:07:29
Ms. misinformation and hate speech. Have she stayed as she's
2:07:33
coming to town while you're in town be on your best behavior.
2:07:38
Now that's
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Adam Curry: a pretty good overview. And as we said, it was
2:07:43
mainly social media people and and mainstream people. It was
2:07:48
just a dumb circus. Couple things of note. I would say most
2:07:53
of the of the print articles had very little on, on the
2:08:00
indictments, you'll hear a few clips it wasn't really much in
2:08:03
there. But the term that Trump was admonished by the judge to
2:08:11
remain from a rhetoric that could K call could inflame or
2:08:15
cause civil arrest. Every single out of Ed Trump was admonished
2:08:19
were from what I understand. The judge said that to all parties.
2:08:23
But besides that, ABC, when I think this there might be some
2:08:28
legality to this or illegality, when they aired news reports of
2:08:34
Trump speaking at Mar a Lago, he was behind you know, the Trump
2:08:39
are running for president lectern, they blurred out his
2:08:43
text number that you can text for donations or information or
2:08:48
whatever that is, is that not
2:08:50
John C Dvorak: illegal? Can you do it? You blurt out whatever
2:08:53
you want. But if you do it for
2:08:55
Adam Curry: one candidate and not for the other?
2:08:59
John C Dvorak: Well, that's a good question. That may be a
2:09:01
player i But I think those laws are there used to be a law
2:09:04
against doing something like that doing? Yeah, Dad used to be
2:09:07
a fairness doctrine, which is, was repealed in 87. So I think
2:09:11
they can do whatever they want. But I watched that entire Mara
2:09:15
Lago speech, and it was it was most of it was shot. Whoo. It
2:09:20
was a shared feed. And it was you never got to see that. That
2:09:25
thing is that maybe for a split second, they couldn't have
2:09:27
blurted out for long while they blurred it out
2:09:29
Adam Curry: on social media. Or online, whatever. So here's your
2:09:35
skin shed. Yeah, of course. Here's, I have a couple of
2:09:39
clips. These are all basically just with opinions, and we wind
2:09:42
up with an interesting one. We'll start with ABC with
2:09:47
Jonathan Karl.
2:09:48
Unknown: We're also learning more about the dynamic in that
2:09:50
courtroom after the political rhetoric in the weeks before all
2:09:53
of this the former president taking aim. Then the power shift
2:09:56
with the former president now a criminal defendant before the
2:09:58
judge. Let's pray ABC chief Washington correspondent
2:10:01
Jonathan Karl live here in New York for our coverage in John,
2:10:04
our team in that room describing a very different dynamic playing
2:10:07
out in court today.
2:10:08
David Donald Trump is accustomed to being the center of attention
2:10:12
and in control in whatever room he walks into. That was
2:10:16
decidedly not the case. Today inside that courtroom as he
2:10:20
walked in, Trump looked as profoundly unhappy as I have
2:10:24
ever seen him a deep scowl on his face. He was in the
2:10:28
courtroom for 57 minutes, surrounded by his lawyers,
2:10:32
police officers standing behind him. He had to wait for about a
2:10:36
full five minutes before the judge entered the room. And when
2:10:40
the judge walked in, Trump had to do what everybody else had to
2:10:43
do in that room stand. It will be the judge calling the shots.
2:10:47
Donald Trump, our reporter in the room, Olivia Rubin noticed
2:10:51
that Trump spoke so softly that at one point, the judge said I
2:10:56
can't hear you and asked him to repeat what he was saying,
2:10:59
speaking softly. That's not something we see Donald Trump
2:11:03
do, ever, if at all. And I suspect, David that as we go on,
2:11:09
he will not be speaking softly for long,
2:11:11
Adam Curry: riveting report. He had to stand and spoke softly.
2:11:15
John C Dvorak: Yeah, we have to remember that that Carl is the
2:11:18
head of the Washington. Yeah, the press corps, the press corps
2:11:22
that that goes to the White House and tried to shut up that
2:11:26
poor African guy,
2:11:27
Adam Curry: but you know, and I, I didn't see any of this.
2:11:32
Because I was in extras in Austin, I was doing a show with
2:11:37
Marty bent from the CFTC podcast. And so I was only
2:11:41
listening to stuff on the way back. And I figured out pretty
2:11:44
quickly that the no one really had anything that would show
2:11:48
that Trump is the walls are closing in. He's going to jail,
2:11:51
none of that. And even on CNN, John Bolton, who is now a CNN
2:11:56
correspondent. Here's what he said big picture.
2:11:59
Unknown: What do you think of the indictment?
2:12:01
Well, speaking as someone who very strongly does not want
2:12:04
Donald Trump to get the Republican presidential
2:12:06
nomination, I'm extraordinarily distressed by this document. I
2:12:09
think this is even weaker than I feared it would be. And I think
2:12:14
it's it's easily subject to being dismissed or a quick
2:12:18
acquittal for Trump. Just speaking going back to the days
2:12:21
when I represented Jim Buckley and Jean McCarthy and the
2:12:24
constitutional challenge to the underlying federal statute here
2:12:27
passed in 1974. I can say there is no basis in the statutory
2:12:32
language to say that Trump's behavior forms either a
2:12:35
contribution or an expenditure under federal law, the two key
2:12:40
definitions at issue here. If it did, it would mean that every
2:12:44
single expenditure a candidate made could be taken to have
2:12:48
something to do with this campaign. Do I buy a $1 comb to
2:12:51
comb my hair or $10? comb to comb my hair? If you can
2:12:56
construe the statute to cover this behavior, then I think it
2:13:00
violates the First Amendment because you're deeply into
2:13:03
territory that that makes the statute absolutely federal
2:13:07
statute, too vague for enforcement. And as what I
2:13:10
understood the district attorney to say that he thinks there's a
2:13:13
New York election law involved here, all I can say is the
2:13:17
Federal Election Campaign Act absolutely preempts any state or
2:13:21
local law to the contrary, how could it be otherwise? You've
2:13:24
got one law governing corporate finance and a presidential
2:13:27
election at the federal level, you're going to have 50 state
2:13:30
laws interfering with it. So he's just wrong on the
2:13:32
applicability of the New York statute.
2:13:35
Adam Curry: Oh,
2:13:36
John C Dvorak: you know, a lot of people I've watched
2:13:38
everything I saw, what's his name, the DA could do his little
2:13:42
press conference, which was short. And I watched Trump as he
2:13:46
went to the show the full plane flying in the air and landing.
2:13:52
And the DA made a huge point in his press conference to say that
2:13:56
this was about New York law had nothing to do with federal law.
2:13:59
And he almost I think he may have actually said that. And so
2:14:02
all these analysts who bring up federal law about to analyze
2:14:09
this indictment, I don't know what their what they've had any
2:14:12
did they listen to this guy? He made a clear point. This has
2:14:16
nothing to do with any federal law the way he sees it.
2:14:22
Adam Curry: Well, that's what George Washington University law
2:14:25
professor Jonathan Turley said, and he is he speaks for Fox
2:14:31
News, and I did my best to cut out as much of Brett as I could.
2:14:34
Yeah.
2:14:36
John C Dvorak: Wait, wait, before you play the fox news
2:14:38
clip. I will say another thing. I mean, I did a lot of channel
2:14:40
swapping. And it the analysts that were under different than I
2:14:44
have a clip from one of the locals, but the analysts that
2:14:47
were on these different channels, especially CBS versus
2:14:51
Fox couldn't be distance between them as a million miles. It was
2:14:58
unbelievable to hear the The analysts on CBS versus Fox, I
2:15:03
will say that from what I heard from all these different
2:15:05
analysts, Fox was the only one that was somewhat objective.
2:15:10
Adam Curry: When we play the local analysis, is that what I'm
2:15:12
playing here?
2:15:12
John C Dvorak: No, no, you're gonna play the you're gonna play
2:15:14
your clips. My local analysis is I got three parter, and you can
2:15:17
finish. Okay. All right. Let
2:15:18
Unknown: me tell you, I've never seen an indictment quite like
2:15:20
this one. That is the key linchpin. That's how you get
2:15:23
beyond the statute of limitations. I know a lot of
2:15:26
judges that would have been not too pleased to receive an
2:15:30
indictment like this would have said, you know, what the heck is
2:15:33
this mean? What are you alleging, and brag, just sort of
2:15:36
waved it off and said, I don't have to really say, but my
2:15:40
question is, how does the grand jury understand what it was
2:15:43
doing? We'll see a little better with the bill of particulars.
2:15:47
But it really raises concerns as to how well the grand jury
2:15:51
understood these key linchpins because this thing is a feeling
2:15:55
of like illegal Slurpee, it it's instantly satisfying, but has no
2:15:59
nutritional value. There's nothing there. The thing is,
2:16:03
this is basically what we expected. You had people like
2:16:05
Lanny Davis, who represents it, Michael Cohen saying, I'm
2:16:09
warning you there's going to be a lot of new crimes here. And
2:16:12
it's going to there's gonna be a lot of new facts. Well, it
2:16:14
wasn't. I mean, this was the business falsification theory
2:16:17
that we've talked about. The only surprising thing is that
2:16:21
brands seem to have solved the question of his authority
2:16:24
through ambiguity. He just removed any direct references to
2:16:28
what this underlying offense was. And my guess is it's going
2:16:32
to be a federal election claim. I mean, this the the state, the
2:16:36
reference of the state election law was so general ambiguous, I
2:16:41
don't think that that could be the it sustain this type of
2:16:43
actions. It's like a scene in Braveheart when he says, like,
2:16:46
we didn't get dressed up for nothing. I mean, it's, he's
2:16:48
hoping that this judge is going to be very timid, and not throw
2:16:52
this out. But there are substantial threshold legal
2:16:56
questions here. And this case could collapse before it gets to
2:17:00
a trial. And this is not the only judge that will have to
2:17:04
look at this. And I think that has to weigh heavily on him.
2:17:07
Because there's no there there now, whether he could fill in
2:17:11
those gaps we'll have to see. But you would think if you were
2:17:14
going to indict a president, you would, you would rise to that
2:17:17
moment of history and tell people with precision what it is
2:17:21
that you want to convict him on.
2:17:24
Adam Curry: So I think both Charlie and Carl and the
2:17:30
fortunate for what's his name? Bolton, I think they're all
2:17:35
three of them are wrong. And the best analysis did not come from
2:17:39
mainstream it came from Alan Dershowitz, constitutional
2:17:43
lawyer, who we have liked when he was a nutjob democrat and a
2:17:47
nutjob non Democrat. Sorry,
2:17:48
John C Dvorak: as I predicted two newsletters ago Dersch would
2:17:51
show up.
2:17:52
Adam Curry: Oh, yeah, he shows it. Well, he had to show up on
2:17:54
Charlie Kirk's podcast, because he can't can't buy himself a
2:17:57
spot on mainstream because, you know, he's like, he's a
2:18:01
Democrat. So he can't be on Fox. And then he defended Trump, so
2:18:05
he can't be on the on the on any of the left wing media. But I
2:18:09
think he has the proper analysis.
2:18:12
Unknown: I don't think I could get this case dismissed so
2:18:15
easily. I don't think that I don't think that if you had the
2:18:18
best lawyers in the history of the world, Abraham Lincoln and
2:18:21
John Marshall, a New York City judge would dismiss this case,
2:18:25
because that New York City judges life would be over.
2:18:28
Everybody would point to him the way they pointed to me when I
2:18:30
defended Trump, Oh, my. There's the man who helped Trump get
2:18:34
free. So I don't think it's going to be easy. I think he
2:18:37
probably will be convicted by your jury who voted for Bragg
2:18:43
and voted for get Trump, it will be reversed on appeal. It will
2:18:47
never be affirmed all the way up to the Supreme Court, but brags
2:18:51
gonna be popular, he'll be reelected. And and he'll
2:18:55
probably win his case. Unless unless there is a change of
2:19:00
venue.
2:19:01
Adam Curry: I think that's the proper analysis. I agree. 100%
2:19:05
No, you said 100% Now you're doing it 100% 100% About your
2:19:11
local analysis. We do that now.
2:19:12
John C Dvorak: Now I have this I got three clips are they're kind
2:19:14
of interesting. I think they kind of work together. Okay.
2:19:18
First of all, this is a local analysis that took place the day
2:19:23
before the indictment. And so this is the kind of thing and I
2:19:27
got the guy's name. He's a professor the classic local
2:19:30
professor does, you know as a Democrat is a California
2:19:33
professor so he's, you know, liberal progressive, wants to
2:19:37
dissolve the family and turn us all into communists. Oh, we know
2:19:41
the kind Yes, we this guy. So this is a classic to me. What we
2:19:46
were hearing in the Bay Area and just before he was indicted,
2:19:50
before we didn't, we found out that he didn't have a mug shot.
2:19:53
He didn't get can come none of that. So let's go this and I did
2:19:57
cut it. So you give the introduction induction is the
2:20:00
guy that we cut right to one of his comments.
2:20:02
Unknown: Robert ovitz to the nine. He's a political science
2:20:04
professor at San Jose State.
2:20:06
You know, our the history of our country has been for over 200
2:20:09
years presidents have evaded responsibility and
2:20:11
accountability. But here, I think it's starting to creep up
2:20:16
and catch up with President Trump. We know that the attorney
2:20:20
general is actively investigating all the mountains
2:20:23
of evidence that was accumulated in the January 6 investigation
2:20:27
last year. And let's hope that it looks bold to some
2:20:31
accountability for President Trump. And if that's the case,
2:20:35
he's going to be doing more than doing the perp walk that he's
2:20:38
going to do this after
2:20:40
Adam Curry: that. So we didn't even do the perp walk. And
2:20:42
notice this guy doesn't say he's done. He just has mountains and
2:20:46
whoa, Earth.
2:20:48
John C Dvorak: classic, classic local yokels. Now I did
2:20:52
beforehand. My last clip, I want to play this intermediate clip,
2:20:55
which is actually something we don't normally do on the show,
2:20:59
but this is Tucker Carlson reading a tweet. Since I thought
2:21:04
it would be more entertaining. Let's have him read it. And I
2:21:06
think that this is apt Salvadorian prick prexy tweet.
2:21:12
Unknown: Here is Salvadoran president now you boo Kelly on
2:21:15
Twitter today, quote. Think what you want about former President
2:21:19
Trump and the reasons he's being indicted. But Kelly wrote, but
2:21:22
just imagine if this happened in any other country where a
2:21:25
government arrested the main opposition candidate. The United
2:21:29
States is ability to use quote, democracy as foreign policy is
2:21:34
gone.
2:21:35
Adam Curry: Well, Kelly is a big hero man. He's a big hero
2:21:38
amongst the Bitcoiners that's for sure.
2:21:41
John C Dvorak: And last, just as like nobody covered this that
2:21:44
much. And I just thought this is the funny kind of ancillary
2:21:49
commentary about the stormy Daniels clip.
2:21:55
Unknown: Meanwhile, stormy Daniels lost her defamation suit
2:21:58
against Trump. Daniels was ordered to pay Trump's attorneys
2:22:01
more than $120,000 in legal fees. That's on top of more than
2:22:06
$500,000 in court ordered payments to Trump's attorneys
2:22:10
she's already been required to pay. A judge dismissed her
2:22:14
defamation lawsuit in 2018. She later lost and appeal and was
2:22:17
ordered to pay Trump's legal fees for fighting both the civil
2:22:21
litigation is on is officially unrelated to Trump's case in New
2:22:25
York. Some denies ever having an affair with her.
2:22:29
Adam Curry: Man. I want him to hear more stormy Koch clips. I'm
2:22:32
bummed I missed
2:22:34
John C Dvorak: you guys. I think you have the only one.
2:22:37
Adam Curry: There was one, which is a short clip. But, you know,
2:22:42
Robert F. Kennedy Jr. announced he filed his paperwork he
2:22:45
announced his presidency is run for president as a Democrat.
2:22:48
Yep. Now, just to put this into perspective, he is a lawyer
2:22:52
who's taken the second a lot of corporations to court, certainly
2:22:57
Big Pharma. He is by definition, not an anti Vaxxer. He was
2:23:02
actually an environmental lawyer. And he fought against
2:23:08
mercury in water. That's what he did for years and years and
2:23:12
years. And he kept seeing but this is all his own admission.
2:23:15
It kept seeing moms showing up at at his speeches and they
2:23:19
said, Hey, there's mercury in some of these adjuvants in
2:23:22
vaccines, and we think they've caused harm to our children. And
2:23:26
so then he became an advocate for getting mercury out of
2:23:30
vaccines, of course, with his deconstruction, his of COVID,
2:23:36
his deconstruction of the vaccine industry industry, how
2:23:39
it works, his book on Anthony Fauci going back to the Fauci
2:23:44
days of killing gay guys with HIV. I'm just going to say
2:23:48
that's what the book says. So of course, you have to completely
2:23:53
discredit Robert Kennedy, Jr. Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. and let's
2:23:59
hear how the tone is set by Jake Tapper at CNN,
2:24:03
Unknown: this just into CNN, anti vaccine quack, Robert F.
2:24:07
Kennedy Jr. has filed paperwork with the Federal Election
2:24:11
Commission to run for president as a Democrat in launching his
2:24:15
presidential bid Kennedy is the latest in a long line of family
2:24:18
members to enter politics. So far, only Marianne Williamson
2:24:23
who likes once launched her second launch campaign has
2:24:25
entered the Democratic primary against Biden Kennedy is such a
2:24:28
healthcare menace in 2019. Even his cousins wrote an op ed
2:24:32
criticizing his anti science views on life saving vaccines.
2:24:38
Adam Curry: You don't need to know any more than that's what
2:24:40
he's gonna get. And when you call Robert F. Kennedy Jr. A
2:24:44
quack over Marianne Williams, man, they're out to get you. Oh,
2:24:50
they're
2:24:51
John C Dvorak: gonna get him. They're out to get him for sure.
2:24:53
I don't know why they're so afraid of him. I don't think he
2:24:56
has much of a chance. But is there going to play the Trump
2:24:58
game and go after him and make a good call? Besides a lot of
2:25:00
stuff, he may get some attention. Oh, you may be
2:25:03
screwing up. As usual as
2:25:04
Adam Curry: usual, as usual. Hey, I see you have it in your
2:25:07
list. tock tick tock. Always, always interested in what you
2:25:13
have for your tick tock crime your tick tock collection.
2:25:17
John C Dvorak: Yeah, this is my tick tock clip of the week. This
2:25:20
is a round headed kid. It looks like a very disturbed
2:25:25
individual. Could be an actor, but I don't think so. He is
2:25:31
upset. terribly upset at Apple, specifically for having
2:25:37
Adam Curry: box all this you sent me You texted me this,
2:25:41
John C Dvorak: I think for having the meat emojis a vegan.
2:25:46
And he and he's very upset with Apple for having a meat emoji on
2:25:50
its set of emojis. Here we go.
2:25:52
Unknown: Yes. And those emojis honestly should be illegal. I've
2:25:55
been emailing Apple every single day to remove the meat emojis
2:25:59
from the iPhones and they're not doing it. I don't know why
2:26:03
they're not doing it. I've been emailing them every single day
2:26:06
to stop putting the meat emojis in the phones, like it should be
2:26:11
illegal. It's offensive to me. And it's triggering to people
2:26:14
like me who are vegan, it is so triggering. And I don't know why
2:26:18
they don't take them off the iPhone because there's so
2:26:21
triggering. There's a trigger tock, tick tock.
2:26:28
Adam Curry: And people wonder why all the ad money is going to
2:26:30
tick tock, come on. Entertainment. I have a tick
2:26:34
tock related clip from Matt to Eb typically, we haven't done
2:26:37
much about the the Twitter files because it's been a lot of
2:26:41
tweets. It's been, you know, sub stacks, which don't really lend
2:26:45
themselves very well. I mean, we were a clip where a clip driven
2:26:49
show. And I picked up this minute and a half of him
2:26:53
explaining, which I think is good, how the ticker, the so
2:26:58
called tic tac bill, the Restrict act, what it is
2:27:03
actually doing. And in, as it pertains to the information he
2:27:08
has gleaned from the Twitter files, and of course, there's
2:27:11
new information, new shit has come to light,
2:27:13
Unknown: where, you know, we found a whole bunch of
2:27:15
communications just recently about in preparation for a
2:27:20
hubbub, they were all having at the Aspen Institute in 2021,
2:27:24
where they were discussing ideas like the Restrict Act, which is
2:27:29
being proposed for you know, in response to Tiktok, there's, I
2:27:32
guess, the European Digital Services Act, or whatever they
2:27:35
call it. That's that they're thinking about for the EU, all
2:27:40
the ideas, and both of these bills are sort of wish lists
2:27:44
that have been passed around in this community for a long time,
2:27:47
the government's want absolute, full and complete access to all
2:27:51
data that these platforms provide. And then they want a
2:27:56
couple of other things that are really important. They want it
2:27:59
they want to have the authority to come in and moderate, or at
2:28:04
least be part of the process of moderation. And they also want
2:28:08
to for people who are called like trusted flaggers. That's
2:28:12
how it's described in the European law. They want those
2:28:15
folks to have access to these platforms as well. And that what
2:28:19
they mean by that, are these sort of outside quasi
2:28:22
governmental agencies who tell these platforms, what they can
2:28:28
and cannot print about things like vaccine safety, right? And
2:28:33
then we found out more about that, where they're where
2:28:35
they're openly talking about censoring true information. So
2:28:40
yeah, we're still finding out a lot of stuff about this. And I
2:28:42
think there is more to find, unfortunately,
2:28:45
Adam Curry: I love the trusted flaggers. Show title. I have it
2:28:50
written down as such. In fact, there's one other thing that
2:28:54
that is cruel, actually, too. But as cropped up, then if you
2:28:58
recall the first time and it was Obama's original election or his
2:29:02
reelection, there was a lot of assertions about illegal
2:29:08
campaign donations that apparently were made with credit
2:29:11
cards, et cetera, from China, amongst other places. Do you
2:29:16
recall this?
2:29:17
John C Dvorak: Yes, Obama had set up a shop or somebody did
2:29:22
for him. So you could take a lot of small donations, a lot of
2:29:26
Julian's of small donations over his website, and it would appear
2:29:30
as if, like, he had this popular, supportive Jillian's of
2:29:34
small donors, when in fact, it was one or two aggregators that
2:29:38
would then break up these massive donations from China and
2:29:41
the big farm and elsewhere and feed it into the system as small
2:29:46
donations that didn't need necessarily to be reported.
2:29:50
Correct. Yeah, I remember it.
2:29:52
Adam Curry: So I think this is related. There's a lawsuit going
2:29:55
on right now. And Leonardo DiCaprio is involved. eBenefits
2:30:00
Would you listen to this from ABC
2:30:02
Unknown: this morning Leonardo DiCaprio known for his roles
2:30:05
like the hard charging stockbroker in The Wolf of Wall
2:30:08
Street.
2:30:09
Something just came across my desk John. It is perhaps the
2:30:12
best thing I've seen in the last six months has testified
2:30:16
at the money laundering trial of hip hop artists Pras Michel
2:30:19
founding member of the Fujis, saying they met in the 90s.
2:30:28
Michelle was accused of funneling millions into the US
2:30:31
from a Malaysian businessman named low take Joe for political
2:30:34
contributions including for Barack Obama's reelection
2:30:37
campaign. Prosecutors claimed it was part of a sophisticated
2:30:41
political influencing scheme. DiCaprio called by the
2:30:44
prosecution said he first met low in 2010. And lo eventually
2:30:49
agreed to help finance Wolf of Wall Street says I told you
2:30:55
70,000 DiCaprio saying I was given the green light by my team
2:30:59
he was a legitimate business person wanting to invest in the
2:31:02
movie. DiCaprio also testifying low discussed political
2:31:07
contributions to Obama's campaign, saying it was a
2:31:10
significant sum something to the tune of 20 to $30 million. Lowe
2:31:15
is currently a fugitive, Michelle is named as the CO
2:31:18
defendant and has pleaded not guilty.
2:31:22
Adam Curry: And you know what I find so amazing about this Fujis
2:31:26
connection. Do you remember why Cliff John, also of the Fujis
2:31:32
was in Haiti and was going to run for president after filing
2:31:36
papers he was in? I mean, what is it with the Fujis and all
2:31:40
this corruption?
2:31:41
John C Dvorak: Well, the corruption I'm going to bring
2:31:43
back this point I made in the beginning of the show, which is
2:31:46
go see this two part documentary see either the crimes of Anthony
2:31:51
Pellicano this sort of thing is, this is in the movie.
2:31:56
Adam Curry: And there was some other story that we didn't
2:31:59
discuss, but I had recently was like FBI was this.
2:32:05
John C Dvorak: Well, while you're looking I do I have the
2:32:07
clip by promise from last show that I dug up, which was Rand
2:32:11
Paul. Grilling, Anthony Blinken. Yeah, about the papers that they
2:32:17
want from the State Department, they will not get this is Rand
2:32:19
Paul Blinken final clip,
2:32:21
Unknown: well, we don't want your spin on it. We want to look
2:32:24
at the documents.
2:32:25
We're not providing spin, as I said, I believe we can provide
2:32:28
the information you're looking for. We have long standing
2:32:30
practices and procedures in terms of actually providing
2:32:33
documents and cables with this committee, that we're not
2:32:36
prepared to change. But in terms of getting you the information
2:32:38
you're looking for.
2:32:39
And the only cables we have that are of value we got leaked to us
2:32:42
are actually they were declassified by the Trump
2:32:44
administration, those cables said, and these were from some
2:32:47
state department folks, and it was amazing. And I don't
2:32:50
actually fault anybody for missing it. I'm sure there are
2:32:52
1000s of cables. But in 19, in 2018 or 17, they were sending
2:32:59
cables back saying holy you know what they're over here working
2:33:03
without gloves in unsafe conditions. In a BSL two, that
2:33:06
should be a BSL four, not a very safe condition. And that's why
2:33:10
some of our intelligence people have leaned towards us coming
2:33:12
from a lab. Why wouldn't you want to help us? Why wouldn't
2:33:16
everybody want to help us?
2:33:17
I've seen those cables. You're right. They've they've come out
2:33:20
and I think what they said at least as I read them was that
2:33:23
there were concerns based on State Department. Right? If
2:33:26
it'll leave as
2:33:27
we all know, those were not someone who has gumption to
2:33:29
declassify them
2:33:34
Adam Curry: love to try and man
2:33:35
John C Dvorak: so i He's a gift admirer Rand Paul, but there was
2:33:39
something interesting about that clip which was I was always
2:33:43
under the impression that was a BSL four never a BSL two nose
2:33:48
handling the virus no I was I was under the impression based
2:33:52
on what we did for two years and covering this this whole thing
2:33:55
was it was a it was a poorly operated BSL four
2:34:01
Adam Curry: Yes, yes yes. Khorat
2:34:03
John C Dvorak: grade lab correct one correct. That was just they
2:34:07
had they were just sloppy. But according to the leaked
2:34:11
documents it was not a top rated it was it was sanctuary rated
2:34:16
Yeah, it was just a crummy to begin with.
2:34:18
Adam Curry: Hmm Well, that was a lie then a big one a big lie.
2:34:24
John C Dvorak: So we were buffaloed there that one we
2:34:26
missed
2:34:27
Adam Curry: I also swans that I have here that apparently it was
2:34:32
a it is where's this from? What let me see what this is from
2:34:36
this is from well Yahoo News. So it's probably a P. Headline
2:34:40
humans may not have spread COVID to Wuhan market as raccoon dogs
2:34:45
are not to blame for letting the raccoon dogs off the hook.
2:34:49
John C Dvorak: Yay for the raccoon dog.
2:34:53
Adam Curry: Alright, let's talk about let's talk about some
2:34:55
conspiracy theories because I only pulled about a minute and a
2:34:59
half This from NPR to four minutes in total. I think that
2:35:03
they're trying to put some of the bipoc people who were fired
2:35:06
from the podcast division into their normal reporting. So you
2:35:10
know, I had to actually cut out silences and stuff because it's
2:35:14
done almost like W IO n when they took this big, long, quiet
2:35:18
pauses. I listen to
2:35:19
Unknown: this. In the past month, elected officials in the
2:35:22
Netherlands and Poland have, by the way,
2:35:24
Adam Curry: you know, I grew up in the Netherlands. I know who
2:35:26
they're talking about. They're talking about a guy I actually
2:35:29
know I've talked with cherry Bo de and he's done. He's done
2:35:33
some, some pretty funny, Tik Tok videos, ironically enough about
2:35:38
this topic, but it's not like he's Rambo. They make it sound
2:35:42
like they're all nut jobs in Holland, a lot of them are but
2:35:45
Unknown: in the past month, elected officials in the
2:35:48
Netherlands and Poland have accused their opponents of
2:35:50
plotting to force people to eat insects. The idea is also
2:35:54
bubbling up in far right circles in the US, and prs. Watching Nan
2:35:59
reports on how a meme from anonymous message boards is
2:36:03
making the leap into real world politics.
2:36:05
If you follow far right media, the message is plain and simple.
2:36:09
The ruling
2:36:10
class really, really wants us to eat bugs.
2:36:14
That's conservative media personality. Mike who knows
2:36:16
speaking last year,
2:36:18
Adam Curry: by the way, I'm a little upset NPR that you didn't
2:36:20
put us in with the bug eating because I think we've been on
2:36:23
the forefront of this on the tip
2:36:24
Unknown: of the jingles
2:36:26
Adam Curry: we have. We have bug eating jingles that go back
2:36:29
years.
2:36:30
Unknown: Using insects as a source of protein is only at the
2:36:33
edges of the policy debate when it comes to cutting climate
2:36:36
pollution from agriculture. Scientists focus mainly on
2:36:40
reducing meat consumption and eating more plant based food.
2:36:43
Although the idea is marginal, various right wing media outlets
2:36:46
use insect eating as a punch line to mock climate movement.
2:36:50
You know who won't be eating bugs, climate change
2:36:52
technocrats?
2:36:53
I have some crickets here with me behind me. What do you think?
2:36:58
What do you think about when you see this and think that
2:37:00
government wants to put this in your food
2:37:02
those clips are from prison planet and Prager University.
2:37:05
Sir a neon off anti Defamation League traced some of this
2:37:08
rhetoric back to 2019 in threads on the anonymous message board
2:37:12
4chan, it
2:37:13
kind of started out and continues to be kind of a meme.
2:37:18
So some people might be using it earnestly and some people might
2:37:21
be using it. Ironically,
2:37:23
it started with comments below a photo of climate activist Greta
2:37:27
Thun Berg,
2:37:27
they say over and over and over again. I will not eat the bugs I
2:37:30
will not eat the bugs.
2:37:33
Then the phrase crossed over to Twitter first by way of a white
2:37:36
nationalist, then a crypto advocate used it to poke fun at
2:37:41
proposals to mitigate climate change. Yet another early
2:37:44
propagator of the phrase told NPR he tweeted it only as a
2:37:48
joke. Over time he has fused into a darker conspiracy theory
2:37:52
currently known as the Great reset.
2:37:55
Adam Curry: Okay, so it's all
2:38:00
John C Dvorak: amateurs are they putting in charge of that place?
2:38:03
knew about any of this seven is accurate?
2:38:05
Adam Curry: It's from 4chan. It's from 4chan. It's a
2:38:08
conspiracy. The great reset as a conspiracy. None of it's true.
2:38:11
It's not true. Come on. We've had the I like bugs thing for
2:38:16
years. And now we want to watch a real great reset is this is
2:38:21
wishes the great reset. Here's what's really happening.
2:38:23
Everything's going to be great reset this summer
2:38:26
Unknown: travelers this summer could be in for a bumpy ride, I
2:38:30
think it's going to be a troublesome summer. In a letter
2:38:32
to airlines the Federal Aviation Administration, citing a severe
2:38:36
lack of air traffic controllers could cause serious delays and
2:38:39
cancellations agency predicting delays to skyrocket up an
2:38:43
estimated 45% in New York City alone.
2:38:46
Our goal is to make sure that we're proactive and where we can
2:38:51
be to be as predictive as we can be to make sure that are in
2:38:54
demand matches.
2:38:55
impacted. Airports include New York's JFK, LaGuardia Newark and
2:38:59
DC is Reagan National last year New York area airports around
2:39:03
41,000 flight delays according to the FAA, the agency is now
2:39:08
pleading with airlines to cut back on service asking for up to
2:39:12
10% reduction in flights for this summer season, the
2:39:15
likelihood of ground delays will decrease and that will help them
2:39:20
maintain their schedules and the airplanes that fly around the
2:39:25
country throughout the day. They will be on time more often
2:39:30
to avoid traffic jams as travel returns to pre pandemic levels
2:39:34
and the summer surge commences. Both united and Delta Airlines
2:39:38
considering the offer so as NYC based JetBlue. It co telling
2:39:43
CNBC. We don't want to pull down flights, but if we don't cut
2:39:47
them, the system is not going to be workable this summer. Experts
2:39:50
say act now. So for those folks who have not yet booked their
2:39:54
summer travel plans, do so immediately and be flexible with
2:39:58
your summer plans.
2:40:00
So rather than setting your heart on New York City and maybe
2:40:03
this is a sort of the universe telling you couldn't be a good
2:40:06
summer to go visit
2:40:07
John C Dvorak: Chicago
2:40:09
Unknown: to go visit the Rockies.
2:40:12
Travel is just on the horizon.
2:40:15
Adam Curry: Oh, there you go. They have no pilots, people,
2:40:18
that's what's going on. Well, there's
2:40:19
John C Dvorak: that too. And also the sound like a native ad
2:40:21
for visiting Chicago, if these airports are so you know, want
2:40:26
to cut back can't do that. It should be across the board.
2:40:29
Everybody should be cut back. 10% is the they can close the
2:40:32
slots. Just just volunteering and one airline has to take a
2:40:38
beating and their earnings and there we had their total
2:40:40
revenue. That's bullcrap.
2:40:43
Adam Curry: Those are the ones that are in the most trouble.
2:40:44
That's why it's trying to get them out of trouble. We're
2:40:47
screwed with that's why you got to get back to flying myself.
2:40:51
John C Dvorak: You know, I remember when I was a kid, here
2:40:53
we go. flew to New York. And it was like four years it was
2:40:58
always sorry. We have to circle around for a half
2:41:02
Adam Curry: hour. I remember circling. Yes. Yes.
2:41:05
John C Dvorak: circling, circling, circling, you finally
2:41:07
land like an hour late. So what's new?
2:41:12
Adam Curry: I want to remind NPR that you know your own seller
2:41:16
Brady's have been teaching us how to eat bugs. Remember Nicole
2:41:19
Kidman
2:41:19
Unknown: and Nicole Kidman and I am going to eat for cos meal of
2:41:24
bugs I just conspiracy theory. Eating micro livestock hornworms
2:41:31
there
2:41:31
Adam Curry: okay, and then remember the jingle How old is
2:41:34
this jingle
2:41:42
John C Dvorak: This is another example of NPR falling down on
2:41:45
the job. Really stick? I'm gonna remind people don't give them
2:41:50
your money. Give us the money you were would give them? Yes.
2:41:57
Adam Curry: Yes, I agree. And then on the great reset taking
2:42:00
place in France, who I believe have now broken into and taking
2:42:07
possession of the Black Rock headquarters in in Ferris. Yeah,
2:42:12
that's pensioners. Okay, that's that's people who are 60 What 62
2:42:17
or 61. And they're ready to retire and they don't want to
2:42:20
wait three more years. Oh, yeah. That's who the people are here.
2:42:24
This is an NPR clip. What do you think this is about NPR.
2:42:28
Unknown: Residents in Paris have voted overwhelmingly to ban
2:42:32
electric scooters in the city. The 15,000 Scooters will be
2:42:36
removed from the streets after their contract ends in August.
2:42:39
The scooters are popular with tourists and people who don't
2:42:43
want to drive or ride the subway. But they're also seen as
2:42:46
a traffic hazard.
2:42:47
Adam Curry: No, the French want your crap gone. Get it out of
2:42:51
here. You stupid scooters, get rid of them. The French are
2:42:55
good. Well, at
2:42:57
John C Dvorak: least they will stand up to things I mean,
2:42:59
that's a good dose things should be gone. Yeah, nice. Those
2:43:03
things flying around Paris is bad enough to drive around
2:43:07
there. I'm gonna show my school by donating to no agenda.
2:43:11
Unknown: Imagine all the people who could do that. Oh yeah,
2:43:13
that'd be fun
2:43:22
John C Dvorak: and we do have a few people to thank for show
2:43:25
1544 And if I have starting off with Bruce Schwalm, the Schwalm
2:43:34
family in Harrisburg, Pennsylvania comes up with
2:43:36
$133.88 Zavier Vasquez in San Diego 12345. New Hampshire
2:43:44
meetup comes in with 115. And they sent us a couple of big
2:43:48
photos. You get these things.
2:43:49
Adam Curry: The beautiful photos of you and myself. They look
2:43:53
great.
2:43:53
John C Dvorak: There's a question for each one. Oh,
2:43:56
what's the least I have? I have one question, John. How come the
2:44:01
Democrats always is Why is Minnesota or Minneapolis a
2:44:06
Democratic stronghold? Why is it strong the same way? The reason
2:44:09
is in California because they found a way to rig the elections
2:44:13
and dress Ivalo says next on the list he's in Denison, Texas.
2:44:18
$100 John Robin $100 Kevin McAtee in Centennial, Colorado
2:44:24
$100 Jeffrey Dykstra and Sparta Ontario, Canada $100 Got back
2:44:32
from the taxman in Canada, Brian Chambliss in Attica, Indiana
2:44:36
$100. John Siebert in Auburn, California, Canada bucks
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Adam Curry: and I just say one thing about this particular
2:44:43
donation, this is a numeral numeral logical donation. 33,371
2:44:49
Satoshis. So that's a 333 and 71 for your birthday.
2:44:53
John C Dvorak: Yeah, it's skewed. How it came up to
2:44:56
exactly 100 is amazing. I carry Jackson Watertown. Tennessee 100
2:45:01
Baron anonymous cop in San Carlos, California, our buddy
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9933 He's the one who had etsy.com bootleg coins see a
2:45:13
bootleg coin ca Okay, that's where he's got all his patches
2:45:17
and stuff. I think for sale, too loud pipes in Charlotte, North
2:45:19
Carolina at 47 T Lance says SNI in Bastrop Texas 808 And he says
2:45:34
there's a show error.
2:45:37
Adam Curry: Look at SB five six A Yeah, yeah, I've been going
2:45:39
back and forth with him.
2:45:40
John C Dvorak: Okay anonymous in Mount Airy, Maryland 808. And
2:45:45
there he is. Kevin McLaughlin, Sir Kevin and Lucas North
2:45:50
Carolina. 808. Matthew Snyder in San Francisco also 808 And to
2:45:55
round it off with even one more. Daniel Nevada in Parts Unknown.
2:46:01
808 Bradford Rams in which tall falls Wichita Falls, Texas 75.
2:46:10
Why when when Kartini in Torrington, Connecticut 7421
2:46:16
Sure Rain Man in Canyon Texas 72 Christian with a happy birthday.
2:46:21
Christian Sutton Jensen in my Marinette Marinette Marinette,
2:46:28
Marinette, Wisconsin 7199 with another happy birthday and he's
2:46:34
always been following us y'all gonna be happy birthdays. At
2:46:37
least for some time here. Dane Becky Katy, Texas 7171 Adam
2:46:42
Provencher in Toronto, Ontario 7169 Harvey Smith, North
2:46:49
Weymouth, Massachusetts 7166 And now the following people all
2:46:55
donated $71 Even which was the the birthday donation to
2:47:00
celebrate my 71 years doing the podcast
2:47:05
Adam Curry: feels like it
2:47:07
John C Dvorak: started with John Kumar in London, UK que Christi
2:47:11
de gaz de gaz in Vista Avia hills, Alabama, Scott Riley in
2:47:17
Meridian, Idaho, Megan Lauro in Huntington Beach, California.
2:47:23
Varun Rob and light in Holland, Jordan Olson in Bellevue,
2:47:29
Nebraska, Darrell Hansen in New Zealand. Michael Graham and
2:47:37
Gilbert Arizona console. Francis Lambert Inc. Oh, I don't know
2:47:44
what that is. Maybe it's a law firm in Montreal, Quebec. Kurt
2:47:49
Kirk, I'm sorry, Barnett in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. Walter
2:47:55
Hill back in Essen Deutschland Casey gray in Grand Prairie
2:48:01
Texas, Rick Jansen and Round Rock Texas. Health karma for
2:48:07
everyone around Christopher O'Rourke in Oak Lawn Illinois.
2:48:12
Where's Chela Barton in Monday, Texas University douching where
2:48:18
she needs it. Oops, sorry.
2:48:21
Adam Curry: That's the wrong that to.
2:48:26
Unknown: You've been de
2:48:27
deuced
2:48:29
John C Dvorak: James Agee in Umatilla. Florida. Colin Pettit
2:48:36
in Fairfield, Iowa. Laura Rankin in Austin, Texas. Max Boyd in
2:48:42
Edmond, Oklahoma. Joseph Hawkins in Jonesborough. Illinois.
2:48:46
Christopher Baker in Dallas. David, how many how many how
2:48:51
many in Broken Arrow Oklahoma. El speck in Harlan Holland. And
2:49:00
he said wait a minute. What is this he had a Polish birthday
2:49:03
have Bob birthday with a bolo Screaming Eagle? Yeah, I don't
2:49:07
think so. I wish Sarah Stein steenland in Brentwood,
2:49:13
Tennessee. Sir William and Bainbridge Island Washington.
2:49:17
Michael Burke in Kalamazoo, Michigan. Sir. What do you think
2:49:22
that says? I'm gonna stay 30 4am Monk, whatever. Huntington Beach
2:49:29
Christopher grain Covington Louisiana sir. Roti Jo.
2:49:34
Adam Curry: Dream monk. Steam monk, st three st
2:49:38
John C Dvorak: and Medina. Okay, that's what it is. Good. I would
2:49:42
have IT resident hacks our expert, sir roadie Joe in
2:49:47
Odenton Maryland Surbhi boop. In New Brighton, Minnesota. Sir
2:49:54
daddy cast in Mechanicsville, Virginia. He's buried at the
2:49:58
center of the universe. William key Bidwell in Dover Delaware.
2:50:02
Craig Porter in Carlsbad, Brandon Logan in Athens,
2:50:06
Georgia, Jana Joerg Gergana Gergana young Cova in in the UK,
2:50:13
Mark Stokes burry in Centennial, Colorado. Chris Kenny in Allen,
2:50:21
Texas, another kidney donation from the family. It was all his
2:50:25
birthdays lined up. David Fergus zotoh and Gladstone, Missouri,
2:50:31
John munching in Bastrop, Texas. Jill presnel in Wichita, Kansas
2:50:39
Blair Williams in Austin, Texas Derek Chanel in Watkins,
2:50:43
Minnesota. Scott Walker in Flushing, New York. Joe Kellogg
2:50:48
in Bethany Illinois, James Fitzgerald in Palmer Lake
2:50:51
Colorado, Timothy Bhojpur. shears in Cookeville, Tennessee.
2:50:57
A yawn Leclerc in Lawrence viler. Luxembourg, thank you
2:51:02
very much from Luxembourg. I would birthdays for him, or
2:51:06
Yeah, him. Lester Tarr kowski. in Kingman, Arizona. Daniel
2:51:11
Martin in Harrisonburg, Virginia. Brous quarry in Rego
2:51:15
Park, New York, Mike McCoy in Schaumburg, Illinois. Gabriel
2:51:21
Adams in Blackfoot, Idaho. Birthdays there to Michael
2:51:26
riobel. In Eddystone, Pennsylvania, Jody McGonigal in
2:51:34
bid for it in Maine. William jar is in Mount Juliet, Tennessee
2:51:40
who needs a D douching.
2:51:43
Unknown: You've been de deuced
2:51:45
John C Dvorak: John L Marini in Forestville California. Nice
2:51:49
area. John Doyle in Mount Pleasant, Wisconsin. Shreeve nas
2:51:54
murdy are Brahman in Culpeper, Virginia. Kevin McLaughlin is
2:52:01
back with 71 Thank you, Kevin. That's, that's nice. John lander
2:52:07
and and Clancy Montana, Richard Robinson in Spring, Texas, and
2:52:13
he I don't know what he has. James Green in El flan, North
2:52:18
Carolina. F land, E F, la nd Rita Harrington and sparks
2:52:24
Nevada, Christopher Hayden in Lincoln, Nebraska, Dan stone in
2:52:29
San Francisco. Sarah Gardner in Wilmington, North Carolina, Jodi
2:52:36
cudicini in Austin, Texas. Baroness Monica in Drayton
2:52:41
Valley, Alberta, where the money used to be. Jay Schweikert in
2:52:45
Wichita, Kansas deem me out Edison in ultimate Springs,
2:52:50
Florida. Sir Austin in Sammamish, Washington, Daniel
2:52:57
parks in Lakeville, Minnesota nuts. And Daniel plain old
2:53:02
Daniel from Parts Unknown. All these are bitcoins and so as
2:53:06
Chad F, and Ben blessing extends it or actually is ends with Chad
2:53:12
F. That's all our well wishes. I want to thank each and every one
2:53:15
of them for saying happy birthday to me. It's very
2:53:18
appreciated. It's great. And then we start with the rest of
2:53:22
these with Ben blessing. And Lubbock. 6230 Brian Furley 5110
2:53:28
Tom dari 5510 I'm sorry, Farley was 5510 to Troy funderburk 55
2:53:37
and then 50 to 80 from Michael gates chef's catch in beauty
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point, US Australian Tasmania to do 150 Bob Butler and coming
2:53:48
Georgia 5069 And the following people as we wrap it up our $50
2:53:53
donors name and locations and a Drake the top of the list in
2:53:58
white town Indiana, James Shara met at Napa NOC Kurt Patrick
2:54:04
nine amo nine amo Victoria Island BC, Jacob Martinez and El
2:54:11
montay California. Charles Peterson in Albuquerque, New
2:54:15
Mexico along with his wife Tracy,
2:54:18
Adam Curry: and he wants to get the credit and douching
2:54:22
Unknown: you've been de deuced
2:54:24
John C Dvorak: Why would she want to credit when she has her
2:54:26
own donation right under his Well, if
2:54:28
Adam Curry: you read the note, he says he donated 50 for both
2:54:31
but he wanted her to get everything. So yeah,
2:54:35
John C Dvorak: that's $100 donation from Tracy Peters and
2:54:37
then there you go Danielle first in Kona Wisconsin Villareal
2:54:42
Villareal Alex's avala in Kyle, Texas, Michael Lemare, or Lebar,
2:54:49
in Williamston, Michigan, Philip Kusa, Minh offski in Austin,
2:54:57
Jonathan Farris and liberal candidate Kansas So Ryan Tiernan
2:55:01
in North Providence, Rhode Island, Matthew Smith in
2:55:05
Colchester, UK, Paul Terra Nova in Webster, Massachusetts, Jason
2:55:11
deluzy Oh sir Jason in Miami Beach Brian watch sin Sir Brian
2:55:15
in Raleigh, North Carolina and last on the list. Anonymous in
2:55:20
Minnesota
2:55:24
Adam Curry: How about that people love to go your people
2:55:27
love you people love chick magnet. Of course thanks
2:55:31
everyone else who came in under $50 For reasons of anonymity or
2:55:34
you are on one of those sustaining donations which are
2:55:37
very important to us. To quick make goods. We finally got the
2:55:40
note from Baron West who donated on the previous show something
2:55:44
went wrong with the email it was $333 and he says, Your analysis
2:55:47
and last episode about COVID school situation the screen
2:55:50
autism trend shooter medicated children and the replacement of
2:55:53
Black Lives Matter was fantastic. That is why I keep
2:55:56
listening. I've already sent it to some friends and thank you to
2:55:58
Dr. Scott's chapters. Dred Scott executive producer today and
2:56:02
Archduke it really makes sharing easy thank you also for the hard
2:56:06
work you both put into the show it's of great value to me Baron
2:56:09
west of the balderdash beer bourbon and balderdash podcast,
2:56:12
and the producer who donated $1,000 became executive producer
2:56:19
for episode 1539. He has requested that his knighthood go
2:56:23
to Taunton Neil as no agenda artists Taunton Neil and she
2:56:27
become an official no agenda Dame and we will make that
2:56:30
happened today Agnes Nice, very nice. And we thank everybody for
2:56:34
supporting the show for making John field the chick magnet that
2:56:38
he is and for keeping no agenda on the rails we appreciate it to
2:56:42
become a producer go here for a little bit of karma since it was
2:56:48
requested here and
2:56:49
Unknown: there you've got
2:57:01
Adam Curry: we do have some of those birthdays quite a list
2:57:03
actually. We've got Sir Thomas McKean, celebrate on the second
2:57:07
spend Gronholm turn 41 yesterday and says Happy Birthday to her
2:57:11
daughter. Isla, who turns 16 niece, Leona turning five and
2:57:17
best friend's daughter l turning three all yesterday. Barbie
2:57:20
Schmidt celebrated yesterday that Gabriel Adams wishes a
2:57:23
happy birthday to his chickens. Eight one apparently named Adam
2:57:27
C one named John C Dame Becky and Sir Mike say happy birthday
2:57:30
to Chris Keaney. Turning 47 Today Dame Courtney scar to be
2:57:35
in Gitmo FEMA Region number five was Chicago Kate Happy Birthday.
2:57:38
She's not a serial killer, but it's her birthday today. Jana
2:57:41
cleric celebrating its 10th Rob Happy birthday was smokin hot
2:57:44
wife Jade. She turns 30 and certified father's turning 75
2:57:49
Happy birthday from everybody here at the best podcast in the
2:57:52
universe. And we have
2:58:03
Unknown: don't want to be induced.
2:58:04
Adam Curry: No, no, no, he's no douchebag he did a lot for the
2:58:07
show. We're talking about Dred Scott. He already was at Duke.
2:58:10
He does the chapters for every single episode. He's a huge
2:58:13
proponent of podcast and 2.0 appreciate everything you do. We
2:58:17
know him as the Bruce Wayne of podcaster 2.0. Today, Archduke
2:58:21
Dred Scott is now or Duke Dred Scott becomes the Archduke Dred
2:58:25
Scott of The Southern California mega region. And we thank you
2:58:29
for all that you do good serve. And we have one Damon one night
2:58:32
to do today. It was nice to have that. Oh, there was a birthday
2:58:36
blade on the podium. Ladies first Taunton Neil, you're up.
2:58:42
And Larry, welcome both of you to the round table and I'm very
2:58:46
proud to pronounce the k d as Dame Thompson Neil unless you
2:58:50
want some melt. And Sir up. Now night and Dame have the no
2:58:54
agenda round table for you. We've got the regular fare, no
2:58:57
special request. But of course you want hookers and blow rent
2:59:00
boys and Chardonnay cookies and vodka. We got to keep those
2:59:03
tequila fish pie and fellatio. We've got redheads and Rhys
2:59:07
beers, a blonde stupidness we're gonna roast a geisha Saki vaca
2:59:10
Manila bong hits and bourbon, sparkling cider and escorts
2:59:13
ginger ale and Jerboas breast milk and pablum baby just wants
2:59:18
mutton and Mead. It's a favorite everybody loves it here go to no
2:59:21
agenda rings.com that anybody can go there take a look at
2:59:25
those handsome rings that you get as a night or day of the
2:59:27
roundtable and of course if both are newly minted Dame and Sir if
2:59:31
they would give us our their ring size and address we'll get
2:59:34
those off to you as soon as possible. Thank you for
2:59:36
supporting the no agenda show best podcast in the universe.
2:59:45
We got one meetup from the Mississippi meet up report
2:59:49
actually,
2:59:50
Unknown: in the morning John and Adam. This is our Mississippi
2:59:53
premiere reason for me to this is Tony and Kendra. This is our
2:59:57
third meet up and I just want you guys to know Oh, that I'm
3:00:00
working on an AI application. And this is what it's gonna do.
3:00:03
It's gonna find the perfect weedeater for John. And then I'm
3:00:07
gonna send it to him so you can verify if it's working or not.
3:00:10
This is Sir foreman. Another good meetup in the books thank
3:00:13
you for your courage
3:00:15
in the morning. This is to firsthand meet up. Love you guys
3:00:19
today. I'm
3:00:19
John C Dvorak: being deep in the morning, this is Bella I'm here
3:00:24
because Darryl needed a designated driver. Hey guys
3:00:28
can't wait to see you in Nashville. Adam. This is Darrell
3:00:31
Deville future night and obey ants. And they say oh hell is
3:00:36
gonna break loose and you're gonna need a Bitcoin.
3:00:39
Adam Curry: I know if we deduce that meetup participant.
3:00:44
Unknown: You've been de douche tweeted
3:00:47
Adam Curry: so far ago earlier in the show. Saturday, there is
3:00:51
a meetup in Portland, Oregon. Dick's primal Burgard is
3:00:54
Portland second Saturday slave soiree six o'clock make sure you
3:00:57
catch that coming up. I mean, if we're April we have Bellevue New
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Paltz, New York, Houston, Texas Mobile, Alabama Kernersville
3:01:05
North Carolina Toms River New Jersey mines Germany's
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Cincinnati, Ohio Star Idaho Riverside, California Crown
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Point Indiana, Zurich, Switzerland, Westfield, Indiana
3:01:14
Madison, Tennessee Fort Wayne, Indiana. Charlotte North
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Carolina Roanoke Virginia man Nantucket, Massachusetts
3:01:20
Nantucket. Nice one how many people are there Cacioppo, North
3:01:23
Brabant, the Netherlands Budapest in Hungary? Where were
3:01:25
you nationwide and worldwide and badass? Yes, we are San Antonio,
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Texas, Camp Hill, Pennsylvania, Iowa City, Iowa Salt Lake City,
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Utah, Toronto, Ontario, Canada. Navia. Camarillo, Canada,
3:01:38
California. hookset North hookset North Hampshire, New
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Hampshire, Garner North Carolina, Charlotte, North
3:01:45
Carolina Longview, Texas, Toronto, Canada. I mean, there's
3:01:48
so much to so many meetups to go to you have no excuse but above
3:01:54
all, you will like this community you will meet people
3:01:58
there that will become friends you might even meet a future
3:02:00
knight or Dame for yourself no agenda meetups go to no agenda
3:02:03
meet ups.com Regardless of where it is,
3:02:06
Unknown: sometimes you want to go hang out with Dyson days.
3:02:13
You'd
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be triggered
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you to be where everybody feels the same regardless
3:02:22
Adam Curry: of where it is. It's always like a party's like what
3:02:26
I wanted to say crashed into it. Cool. Let me see. Oh, yeah,
3:02:31
well, we're overtime. Overtime. Overtime. Reclaiming my time.
3:02:39
John C Dvorak: What can we get some ISOs to do?
3:02:41
Adam Curry: Yeah, hold on a second to get rid of all this.
3:02:43
Let me see where I am. Okay. Where are your ISOs? I see them
3:02:51
here.
3:02:52
John C Dvorak: What you got to start with threat.
3:02:55
Adam Curry: threat,
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Unknown: catastrophic threat to humanity.
3:03:00
Adam Curry: Okay, I'm liking that once. Okay. triggering. So
3:03:05
trigger ageia That's from your meat emoji kid. Yeah, pretty
3:03:09
good. Pretty good. And he's a good ones jump.
3:03:11
John C Dvorak: And then your favorite smart point.
3:03:14
Adam Curry: It's such a smart point. And no, it's not my
3:03:17
favorite at all. So far. I like what I like the most is
3:03:24
Unknown: bush that threatened me feel that again. Catastrophic
3:03:26
threat to humanity.
3:03:28
Adam Curry: I like that one. But you see what I have. I have
3:03:33
Unknown: some very serious concerns about this.
3:03:37
Little long went along. I've got rabble rousers
3:03:43
Adam Curry: got some rabble rouser. I got this one evil
3:03:46
people. And maybe this maybe this will be the winner. Quack
3:03:51
quack quack. I thought that was reasonably reasonably good. Jake
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Tapper. Quack.
3:03:57
John C Dvorak: is cute. By disparaging I thought I'd rather
3:04:01
had the threat to humanity, threat to humanity.
3:04:04
Adam Curry: I'm okay with threat to humanity. And I think we have
3:04:06
one more clip. Do you want to go because we that's where we're
3:04:10
at.
3:04:10
John C Dvorak: I think we can conclude these clips can go to
3:04:12
the next show.
3:04:13
Adam Curry: I think you're right. You're absolutely right.
3:04:16
Here's what's coming up next. On no agenda. stream.com If you're
3:04:19
still in one of those swanky new podcast apps, we've got angry
3:04:24
tech news with Sir Ryan bemrose. Broken values the title of this
3:04:31
one no idea with us about and end of show mixes we have just a
3:04:36
couple here. I bring them up. We've got what do we have? We
3:04:43
got Maddie J. And we have our one
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Unknown: on habit here.
3:04:51
Adam Curry: The other one was Secret Agent Paul. Classic
3:04:55
Secret Agent Paul. Yes, it's a good one. And the guy is the guy
3:04:59
is just dying. Am I the guy? And coming you from the heart of the
3:05:04
Texas hill country here in FEMA Region number six, happy
3:05:08
birthday, John and in the morning, I'm Adam curry.
3:05:12
John C Dvorak: Yes. And from Northern Silicon Valley where I
3:05:15
appreciate the birthday greetings, and I'm still
3:05:18
wondering about my zip code being important. I'm John C.
3:05:21
Dvorak. We
3:05:21
Adam Curry: return on Sunday right here on no agenda. Please
3:05:24
remember us at the vortech.org/na Until then, enjoy
3:05:28
your meetups. Adios mofos a hui Hui n such
3:05:35
Unknown: My name is Joe Biden. I'm Dr. Joe Biden. I got my
3:05:43
cheese ice cream chocolate chip, chocolate chip ice cream and
3:05:46
chocolate chocolate chip
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and Joe Biden eat ice cream. Well some people think that's
3:05:52
all I do is eat ice cream. I love ice cream always have
3:05:58
chocolate chip not a joke. I learned about kids jumping up my
3:06:00
ladder. And I love kids jumping on my lap you've been with your
3:06:04
mother I can smell ice cream. So what the whole refrigerator
3:06:09
chocolate chocolate chip ice got a commercial light chocolate
3:06:11
chip ice cream I've got a United States Senate drive my truck
3:06:16
probably had hot dogs and
3:06:19
Donald Trump thinks health care is a privilege rockin I think
3:06:22
it's a right for people at Bad Cat care
3:06:26
remember when we said he was Don't say you weren't
3:06:43
effective strategy to mobilize to pressure
3:06:47
No Man's camel she's got her eye on the prize
3:07:18
come on you
3:07:35
Adam Curry: stand up what am I talking about?
3:07:42
Unknown: You're making everybody else
3:07:49
he doesn't know where he is Is it real
3:08:10
won't be many more days takes place you
3:08:43
says
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oh she's still alive is your dad fast? God bless her soul. I
3:09:01
gotta get this straight.
3:09:04
I was on the phone for two straight hours where she's up
3:09:08
but you know they're gonna get moving our lunch. China is going
3:09:13
to go once. Thank you all for welcoming us
3:09:21
man
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Joy don't need the war on.
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mopho.org/in a catastrophic threat to humanity.
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