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April 13th, 2023 • 3h 0m

1546: Cat Hole

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John C Dvorak: He slippery, slippery. He's very, very
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Adam Curry: slippery.
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Unknown: Adam curry Jhansi Dvorak
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Adam Curry: April 13 2023 This Year Award Winning Combination
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media assassination episode 1546
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Unknown: This is no agenda.
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Adam Curry: Miss flopping in Fort Lauderdale and broadcasting
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live from the heart of the Texas hill country here in the region
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number six in the morning, everybody. I'm Adam curry
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John C Dvorak: and from Northern Silicon Valley where he evolved
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notice that Jamie Oliver cannot cook those meals in 15 minutes.
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He's full of it. I'm just eating borax.
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Adam Curry: I agree. I agree. It's a sham man. Look at that
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guy only as a total Sham, total Sham. Hey, I had Horowitz I was
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texting with Horowitz up until like 11 Last night 1130 He was
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free up to he was freaking out. But what Oh, you didn't hear
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about the flooding.
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John C Dvorak: Oh, yeah. Wow. Yeah. Yeah, I'm surprised he
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didn't get flooded.
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Adam Curry: So he had there was well it was two more feet to go
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at around 1130 before his house would start the flooding. And
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the high tide wasn't expected until 3am.
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John C Dvorak: To be up all night,
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Adam Curry: you of course he was and so have
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John C Dvorak: you seen this you see the films This is
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unbelievable. Let's
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Unknown: get back to South Florida where over 20 inches of
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rain fell yesterday into the overnight parts of South South
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Florida catastrophic flash flooding as supercells stalled
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even spun up multiple tornadic circulations but the water was
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everywhere with nowhere to go and it just kept coming. This
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person trying to walk through the water with luggage at the
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Fort Lauderdale Airport, which was close look at this water
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easily up to their knees you can barely make out where the road
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where the sidewalk is. And this person even swimming in the
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street
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Adam Curry: tore Natick circulations. I like that.
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John C Dvorak: I was looking at this report last last night
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there. They were talking about moments of eight inches of rain
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an hour.
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Adam Curry: It was insane. And so he wound up six inches short
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of flooding.
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John C Dvorak: He got lucky.
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Adam Curry: Have you ever been to his house? In Fort
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Lauderdale? No. So you know he has his is this you know it's
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not a big house but he has a small dock and and his boat is
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parked right out back? Yeah. So the boat was almost floating
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into his backyard, his barbecue, his whole Tiki hut I think I
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don't know it was stuff was floating away. And he had just
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just six inches before the House would flood. That's crazy.
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That's crazy. Well, of course, we know. We know obviously, that
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this is climate change. And right on cue ABC this morning.
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Unknown: A new study warns sea levels are rising in the south
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accelerating rapidly since 2010. Putting 10s of millions in the
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path of future floods
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we haven't seen anything comparable of over the past
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century.
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The study's co author says sea levels along the southeast and
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Gulf Coast are rising at rates unprecedented in at least one
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120 years, rising nearly five inches just since 2010. That's
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about double the global rate
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not only increasing along the coast there but it extends into
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the adjacent North Atlantic Ocean and into the Caribbean Sea
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humans in part to blame for the rising sea levels. due to
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greenhouse gases and aerosols.
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We could attribute approximately 40% of the acceleration to
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manmade climate change. But 60% of it is natural climate
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variability naturally balanced that always occur.
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We say hurricanes have been more severe in recent years due to
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higher sea levels and storm surge, including hurricane
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Michael in 2018.
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It's been very traumatic. I just I can't hardly eat. Sleep is
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unthinkable.
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Michael hit Florida's panhandle as a category five. And
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hurricane in last year claimed the lives of more than 100
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people in Florida. I don't have the house, I don't know where to
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go. And scientists continue to warn that we need to turn to
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clean energy but we also must adapt to the higher sea levels
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because they say we may not see the full impact of the changes
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we make today for generations. Oh, we'll
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Adam Curry: keep this going for generations. Nice. Yeah, nice.
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You know, I'm very disappointed though. Not a single report that
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had fish flopping in Miami.
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John C Dvorak: I you know, I was gonna say the same thing where
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the fish in the streets
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Adam Curry: are the fish flopping around. But man, the
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climate change. They're really coming down now especially in
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California. I'm sure you've heard about this. This law that
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passed about electricity rates and that you know the well you
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have PSE and G and S, D, G and E and all these different
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electricity companies have to come up with ways to implement
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this law. Did you hear about this law? This probably equity
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law. Yeah, listen to those equity lawyer that'll stop
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climate change. Oh, no, it won't, but it'll make
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Unknown: people poor this change wouldn't go into effect for at
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least another year or more essentially, people would be
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billed based on their income. So while a lot of customers will
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wind up saving money, others could pay more
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legislature passed a law last year that requires a real
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fundamental change in how electricity is priced in the
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state of California that law
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says Scott Crider, STG knees Vice President of External
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Affairs and Operations Support requires California utility
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companies come up with a fixed rate plan as a way to help
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stabilize rates make billing more equitable criteria laid
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down with me to talk about STG knees joint proposal with pg&e
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and SoCal Edison saying it differs greatly from how
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customers are billed. Now, currently, you not only pay for
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how much electricity your household uses, but other things
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such as how that electricity is deliver, both prices vary month
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to month. SDG nice plan is to offer residential customers a
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fixed delivery rate every month, no matter how much electricity
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is used,
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by having a fixed price for the delivery portion of
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Adam Curry: John, when this gets implemented, I am sending 20
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Bitcoin miners to your house. Because we can just use as much
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as we want and print Bitcoin for free. Basically, this is crazy
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Unknown: that we can actually reduce the remaining electricity
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rate by about 42%, which
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Adam Curry: oh, we're gonna reduce everyone's gonna win, of
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Unknown: course that look like under the current billing system
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at 47 cents per kilowatt hour, the average customer pays $188
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per month, under the fixed rate proposal, they pay $181. Here's
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a breakdown of where you'd fall based on your income pay
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attention, households making less than $28,000 a year would
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pay a fixed delivery rate of $24 per month 169,000. That fixed
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price goes up to $34. Between 69 and $180,000 $73. Households
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making over $180,000 will pay $128 a month, everyone's average
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kilowatt hour rate drops from 47 cents to 27. Posle is income
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base. But some people feel uncomfortable about giving away
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their financial information.
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We would agree we don't want customers financial information.
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Our perspective is the state it will be very, very capable to be
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able to do this and really be able to send us the data that's
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needed.
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Adam Curry: I lived in Los Angeles in 2009. I was not
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paying $188 a month for electricity.
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John C Dvorak: I'm not paying I mean, I'll take that. I'll take
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that though. Everything they said I did. Yeah, but you don't
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think that's actually
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Adam Curry: true. I mean, how can they do that? I mean,
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John C Dvorak: I can do it. I do get this bullcrap.
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Adam Curry: Well, what do you mean, it's a law that passed and
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there
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John C Dvorak: hasn't been implemented and when and they
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breached and they pushed these off, so it's not implemented
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right away is so the courts can come in and say, Now you can't
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do this because it's illegal. He gets kickback and then the
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government has tried I tried but the courts I've seen this a
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million times is California politics.
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Adam Curry: Oh, okay. Well, that makes Well that makes me feel
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better for you and sad about my wife. I
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John C Dvorak: was gonna get a good deal from the sounds of it.
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Yeah.
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Adam Curry: Well, I was I was I was saving for the Bitcoin
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miners. I'm ready. Let's go go go. Hey, does does Jay have
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room? I mean, no white JC in his house there.
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John C Dvorak: Everybody's got enough room for a few miners.
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Adam Curry: A few miners your way. Wow. But I mean this it's
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just wow, what is squeaking? Is that your chair? That is a
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squeak sorry. Sure. But I was reading about tech companies.
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The Bloomberg a Bloomberg is all in on this. And they had a
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Autodesk Autodesk a big company I think Autodesk Oh yeah, huge.
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Autodesk This is from Bloomberg is proud of its bonafide as a
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clean company. It reports it feeties I like bonafides Yes,
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bone a fetus. Okay. It reports the Wendling emissions and
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invest millions in technology aimed at improving the
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environment. There's one hitch watch this company become an
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investable. It's its software is used to design and operate
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machinery for the biggest coal mine complex in Europe's in
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Europe fully production at the pits owned by German energy
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giant go after Microsoft and everywhere in the world.
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Exactly. It's being expanded ahead of the 2030 phase out of
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the highly polluting energy source climate activist Greta
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Thornburg was detained there in January. So yeah, they're going
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after them. they did on investable because they are not
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green. They're going to get a bad ESG score.
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Unknown: Yeah, good.
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John C Dvorak: Man, Greta Sternberg.
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Adam Curry: So on the heels of all this, you know, they
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continue to push fake meat manufactured meat, you know,
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just no meat. That's probably that's probably the hardest push
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no meat at all. CNN COMM And writing on cube with another
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one, these bull crap companies.
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Unknown: We've developed modular platforms that can 3d print
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meats, real meat, not something that mimics weeds. So it all
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starts with a cell that is collected from a real animal in
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an ethical way without harming the animal, a real animal.
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Afterwards, we differentiate the cells into either muscle cells,
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or fat cells, we load the cells into our bioink and load them in
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fire our printers we can decide exactly what's the fat
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percentage and composition of steak. Definitely 3d print
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steak, you take it into an incubation and maturation
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process, meaning that the muscle fibers connect one to each
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other. As this whole industry will evolve, we will see more
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advanced products that will replace the state that we are
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used to eat in the
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Adam Curry: restaurant. How about the steak, I eat it home,
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forget the restaurant. The other strip portion of the process
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looks completely undoable. But even in the Netherlands, they're
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now saying, you know, too much red meat that people consume the
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Dutch the Dutch is really costing seven and a half euros
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per kilo in health care costs you see, because you eat the red
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meat and you get sick, and then everyone has to pay for your
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colon cancer. So they so they want to increase a tax of seven
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euros per kilo of meat. And this is how and of course the
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Netherlands is the number one country
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John C Dvorak: is about $3.50 a pound on top of which you're
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already paying.
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Adam Curry: correct about that? Yeah. In tax in the Netherlands
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is the number one country for food and food texture and taste
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products chemicals.
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John C Dvorak: Yes, it sounds like this tax is just done for
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the purposes of pushing yeah marketing their own businesses
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marketing marketing,
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Adam Curry: the other company marketing scam. So Texas slim
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came by. He stopped over on his one of his many travels. He had
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just come back from promoting the beef initiative in
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Australia. So I got to kind of a boots on the ground in
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Australia. He says and I hate to say it for our producers. He
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says Australia is lost. He said it's a food desert. Everyone's
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eating colorful packaged chemicals. They literally they
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literally are getting you know crap beef from China or whatever
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it was, whatever it is, or through China, but it's not a US
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not even Australian beef. And he gave me a few
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John C Dvorak: I forgot could because God knows there's not
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enough space in Australia to have a herd of cattle.
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Adam Curry: Well, they take that cattle in the in the Chinese eat
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it as caviar. That's not that's the whole joke of it. And so he
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brought me back one of those new Australian dollar $5 bills,
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John C Dvorak: plastic, plastic, but
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Adam Curry: check it out. It's so the so the whole thing is
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here. The whole thing is plastic. But Canada too. But the
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middle part, probably about an inch in with is clear plastic,
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almost like the bill is disintegrating before your eyes.
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And this is little hole, which I'm sure it's like some plastic
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watermark to prove its authenticity. And that's also
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clear to the bill looks like it looks like it's dissolving,
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which of course is a beautiful metaphor. And he says
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everybody's on electronic electronic money. They don't
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even use the plastic money anymore. And all of it's being
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tracked and they're getting their carbon credit score on
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their credit card bills or their debit card bills. They're lost
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the computer going
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John C Dvorak: to be completely under control. I feel that with
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this began when they took all their guns away. Yeah,
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Adam Curry: exactly. That's what he said everyone says. And also
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there's some give me up this whole push for Africa that we've
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been seeing from, you know, certainly European countries or
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Russia, China and pathetic attempts by our A Blinken and
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Kamala Harris that apparently is also to raise beef in Africa.
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And we might as well do it there so we can have our cell cultured
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meat here. No, no, I haven't heard that. Yeah, this is new.
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This is new. Yep, it's Africa. That's where they want to win. I
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want to I want to know on the on the Download make that the bread
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Ask it cheap come as cheap
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John C Dvorak: plenty of land as cheap as good
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Adam Curry: Oh all right so got that off my chest we're all
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gonna die for climate change everybody but don't worry
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everything we're doing now will take generations to see the
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effects so let's keep going to point the train rollin keep
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enrolling people now of course before then we will all die from
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AI Artificial Intelligence I was talking to Christina she is
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pretty level headed but she even got the programming dad I think
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a we're all gonna die he is gonna take over it's thinking
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for itself now. Christina
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John C Dvorak: speaking for itself Yeah,
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Adam Curry: my new line is AI will become real when enough
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humans trust it to achieve Idiocracy. That's one of the
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yeah then we'll die when we're when we think that Gatorade will
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sit will save us
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John C Dvorak: electrolytes
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Adam Curry: Alexa electrolyte so how do you do this? How do you
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start to shepherd this? You and I agree total bull crap in this
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this unaffordable bull crap. We have no business model for it.
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No one's gonna pay for a chat GPT command line. So the first
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thing you do is you you create news anchors which are wholly
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unconvincing.
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Unknown: Diamond check the Polson Oh Rihanna and we begin
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with some TV debuts making us nervous about our job security.
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That's
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because their new anchors are powered by artificial
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intelligence. First there Santa was a green daily news updates
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on India Today her boss calls her tireless and ageless.
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She started by doing the weather
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and you forgot it's really good to have the sun back. I don't
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really like the cold or rain. That's the national government.
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Joining the ranks of AI anchors is Fetta from Kuwaiti news she's
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updating the news on Twitter.
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Adam Curry: Okay very convincing. We should be very
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afraid of this but yet we got another another little chink
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then a little chink in the armor. And then I
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John C Dvorak: like to Federer as it does a name because it's
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just a pretty cheesy
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Adam Curry: Well, unfortunately, they write it f e D h a is I
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guess it's some some Arabic name but Fetta works for me too, is
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cheese. But now we got to go to France 2014 where they're hyping
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it up because Ali Baba is coming.
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Unknown: Yeah, in China. We're seeing a lot of movement on this
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front. Because a new artificial intelligence model has now been
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released by Alibaba, no less. Justice authorities in Beijing
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are looking to impose their own rules on this sector. Now
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Alibaba has released a generative artificial
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intelligence platform designed to rival the Microsoft back chat
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GPT Google and Chinese tech giant Baidu are among those who
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have already unveiled similar platforms. Now Alibaba says its
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version will be integrated into its own apps in the near future.
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The chat bot is called tongue week 10 When which means truth
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from 1000 questions. It's said to be able to draft letters or
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trip itineraries advise shoppers on what cosmetics to buy,
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summarize. But it's unlikely to have free rein because China's
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cyberspace Security Administration published its own
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guidelines for artificial intelligence, saying that a
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security assessment will be required before they're allowed
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to go live. Chat bots in China will have to quote reflect the
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core values of socialism and not subvert state power. Developer
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first will also have to ensure the technology doesn't
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discriminate based on ethnicity, race or gender, and that it
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doesn't generate false information. Now, we don't know
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how those draft rules might Elementor but governments and
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business leaders around the world are paying close attention
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to this fast developing sector. Italy has banned chat GPT
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altogether and figures within the tech industry including Elon
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Musk have warned that things could spin out of control if the
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technology is rolled out too quickly.
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Adam Curry: It's gonna spin out of that's gonna spin out of
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control completely breathless. Yeah, well she she sees her job
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is on the line she sees Fetta coming up and you heard case
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might not be as bad but the best report I got and and now this is
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so full of holes. Is this from Arizona local television. They
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had a whole pack that I'm not even going to play the opening
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headline do through through scary scary scary Oh, no AI here
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straight into the package.
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Unknown: The phone number was unfamiliar. Jennifer Stefano
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almost let it go to voicemail. But her 15 year old was out of
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town skiing. Maybe there had been an accident.
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I pick up the phone and I hear my daughter's voice and it says
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mom and she's sobbing as what happened and she's like, Mom, I
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messed up and she's sobbing and crying. And then I hear a man's
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voice say put your head back lie down. And then like wait, what's
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what's going on? And this man gets on the phone And he's like,
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listen here. I've got your daughter. This is how it's gonna
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go down. He called the police. You call anybody I'm gonna pop
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or something so full of drugs. I'm gonna have my way with her
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and I drop her off in Mexico. And at that moment I just
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started shaking. I'm like, what? In the background? She's going
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help me Mom, please help me help me falling. And you have
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absolutely
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no doubt in your mind that that was her voice.
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Oh, what 100% Her voice? Her voice it was never a question of
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you know who is is or it was completely her voice. It was her
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inflection. It was the way she would have cried never doubted
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for one second it was her. That's what the freaky part that
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really got me to my core.
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There wasn't any of it. It was just a clone. Created by
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artificial intelligence, you
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can no longer trust your ears. Bringing the
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Indian guy he's an expert on potty is a computer science
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professor at Arizona State who specializes in AI. He says voice
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cloning technology is rapidly improving
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meow. There are ways in which you can do this with just three
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seconds of your voice. So within three seconds, you can come
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extremely close to how exactly you sound. And you don't even
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need any special equipments. I chose a free program for a test
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and I'm not actually talking.
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Adam Curry: So then she she does her own voice which doesn't
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sound like her at
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John C Dvorak: all. You know this scam that was just
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described by this woman who's to fake kidnapping that has been
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that's decades old. Also, and they have to have somebody in
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the backyard mom help me mother. And it's always my daughter she
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don't you imagine is her and meanwhile your your daughter's
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at school. This is nothing new
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Adam Curry: will notice the kid was on a skiing trip. I'm
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thinking they were punking her mom or doing something or you
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know, the end the whole story that never come back to it. How
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do we know that it wasn't true? How do we don't know any of
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this? amp and this Mom, I'm sorry. First she says she
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doesn't sound distressed at all about this horrible thing that
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happened to her. And she couldn't be 100% My daughter
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100% My daughter, huh? But these types of stories you know it
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literally this news reporter I think got an instruction do a
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story. Okay, I'll find something don't worry.
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John C Dvorak: No. That's exactly how it works.
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Adam Curry: And we're not always wrong. When we look at stories
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that have a different headline today. Just before the show. I
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read a rest made in San Francisco killing of Bob Lee.
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Remember the guy who got stabbed? Right. Tech execs
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alleged killer also worked in tech. It appears he was they
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were in the same car. There was some kind of argument and the
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guy stabbed him. The guy has been arrested. It was sold to us
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as crime in San Francisco. And what did we say? Sounds like a
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hit.
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John C Dvorak: Yeah, that's what the first thing comes to mind.
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The way they describe the situation. Yeah. So we'll see
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how I mean the guy's resume told us about the use roaming around
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walking around the streets. Not walking around, stabbed. And
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then somebody came up to him and they saw the they have video
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Yep. guy gets stabs him for no good reason and runs off and
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they can't find the guy. Now how does that even work? If he was
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already stabbed in a car, and then what was it kicked out of
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the car? I mean,
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Adam Curry: I know I'm still I'm still waiting for the hit
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reporting. Of course, is dubious. All of the news is
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dubious.
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John C Dvorak: You know, a lot of this AI bot thing. I think a
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lot of it might be also a setup minor one. But it's set up for
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the idea that the Chinese are running these, these pro Trump
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bots.
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Adam Curry: Oh, yeah. And of course Elon isn't stopping them
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on Twitter.
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John C Dvorak: Well, I have a report. My friend, Laura Lopez
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from PBS is the woman who claims that the riots in 2020 the
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George Floyd riots were a right wing.
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Adam Curry: Right wing? Portland. Yeah,
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John C Dvorak: she made that assertion has somebody on to
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prove it. She gets weird. You know what it is? I think she's
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she finds these weird guests. And in this case, you're gonna
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have to kind of bear with who's actually in this report. And
24:50
then you'll see it's, it's, it's just the it they're no good.
24:56
Okay. Let's listen to this as PBS Laura Lopez As I got Rudy,
25:01
Rudy and I don't know what that is supposed to mean, Russia and
25:04
Rudy and bots won.
25:05
Unknown: In the wake of former President Donald Trump's
25:07
indictment, there's been an explosion of foreign
25:10
interference aimed at dividing the American electorate and
25:14
sowing distrust in institutions. Laura Barone, lo
25:17
Pelling brings us this exclusive
25:19
Adam Curry: selling distrust and insert What did they have a
25:22
price tag? What is this? What is this leading, selling distrust
25:26
in institutions? That by itself is dubious.
25:31
John C Dvorak: But PBS NewsHour has been is dubious
25:36
Adam Curry: to say they are selling sewing or selling I
25:38
heard selling was it so she said selling oh, maybe she says
25:42
Unknown: again dividing the American electorate and sewing
25:45
Adam Curry: okay showing Oh, no take sewing. But even then
25:49
dividing the
25:49
Unknown: American electorate frying distrust in institutions.
25:53
Laura Barone Lopez brings us this exclusive data.
25:57
New research shared first with news our shows a covert effort
26:00
by Russian and Chinese backed actors to interfere with
26:03
American news and opinions about Trump's arrest. The analysis
26:07
comes from the global security and intelligence firm Soufan
26:10
Center and the data science firm limbic. Here's what they learned
26:14
as news of the indictment broke and Trump was arraigned, the
26:17
volume of online posts about the former president spiked, going
26:21
from the typical 26,000 posts every day to more than 448,000.
26:27
helping drive that engagement were automated fake accounts
26:30
known as bots. These accounts are closely linked to the
26:33
Russian and Chinese government's operating with the tacit
26:37
approval of the state. They share Russian and Chinese state
26:40
media articles across multiple platforms or retweet them and on
26:45
Twitter. The Amplified support for Trump during the
26:47
arraignment.
26:49
Adam Curry: Amplified oh they amplified Okay, the Soufan
26:52
center this is this is a new actor.
26:56
John C Dvorak: Yeah, first of all, before you start looking
26:59
both these guys up, I'll tell you a couple of things. Their
27:02
intelligence wannabes. Both of them
27:05
Adam Curry: started by former FBI Special Agent Ali Soufan.
27:09
John C Dvorak: Yeah he's the one guy's got some connection ran.
27:15
But there's a one to be operation you can tell there's
27:19
no connection to the limbic is worse. The limbic guy who she
27:23
brings on never says that he's the founder never just has like
27:29
one of the many employees in fact he's the founder and I look
27:33
you couldn't you can't find anything if you go to their
27:35
website lamb ik the olympic.com It's, it's it's still voted is
27:43
all that's missing is the guy with a pick axe under
27:46
construction thing you know that
27:49
Adam Curry: way he has, he has one link our product. Our
27:52
product is defense operating system. It empowers partners to
27:57
prepare for leverage and respond to information threats, Edge
28:01
scale at scale.
28:07
John C Dvorak: So you have to look at the edge website does
28:09
not finished and realize that this company started seven years
28:15
ago.
28:16
Adam Curry: And TSG. The Soufan Center is one of their partners.
28:23
Of course, but stay tuned. Stay tuned for an update to our site
28:26
soon.
28:28
John C Dvorak: Seven years have gone by. I looked into this guy.
28:33
He's he does have a LinkedIn page and it talks about how he
28:36
started this operation seven years ago and he can't He's
28:40
seven years he can't do a website. I mean, that's almost
28:42
as bad as us. Yeah, I don't want to hear it. Almost back to
28:50
Unknown: to unpack what this means and what we can do going
28:52
forward. I'm joined by two of the experts behind these
28:55
findings. Colin Clark of the Soufan center, and Zach's Witzke
28:59
of Olympic, Zach and Colin thanks for joining Colin first
29:02
to millions. This
29:03
Adam Curry: is great. I cannot believe that this got made it
29:07
onto PBS
29:09
John C Dvorak: or Canada Laura Lopez woman she's this is her
29:13
old specialty. She's
29:14
Adam Curry: gullible. That's what she's gullible.
29:16
John C Dvorak: I think so. Yeah. Oh,
29:19
Adam Curry: and by the way, the guy from the Soufan Center p
29:22
looks like Agent Smith. He's got the He's got the whole skinny
29:26
black tie the whole thing going on neck. Yeah, good luck.
29:30
Unknown: Thanks for joining, Colin, first to you millions of
29:33
people across the world posts on social media about news every
29:37
day all the time. Why should people be alarmed about these
29:41
findings?
29:42
Well, I think there's a couple of reasons and I'll give you two
29:45
in particular. One is the intent behind the actors. These are
29:50
Russian and Chinese linked actors that are seeking to
29:52
divide the United States. They want to weaken the US and they
29:56
do that by driving debate on divisive of topics. Also the
30:02
political environment that we're currently in. The current
30:05
climate is highly partisan and polarized. And so it's tailor
30:09
made for these types of interventions. The second is
30:12
that they're pushing their own narratives. They're attempting
30:14
to achieve their own objectives, and doing so by spreading false
30:18
information that's now then gets picked up by American citizens
30:22
and passed along.
30:24
And Zach, here's one example of what you guys found. You point
30:28
to a Russian back bot at Peter dabit. A gab account that's
30:32
posting dozens of times a day.
30:35
Adam Curry: Gab accounts
30:41
John C Dvorak: gab account
30:42
Unknown: Peter dabit a gab account this posting dozens of
30:45
times a day, including this post about Trump's quote, dodgy
30:49
indictment, explain what's happening here.
30:51
Yeah, yeah, I think it's really interesting to look at this
30:53
because it's really a symptom of what we're seeing more broadly
30:57
that there's an authentic activity. And this is a very
31:01
good example, because you see the image that the profile is
31:05
uses from American media. There's no biography seeing, you
31:08
know, I think 45,000 posts to gab and a lot of what we're
31:13
seeing from this account in particular, which is consistent
31:16
with a lot of the unauthentic activity is posting or
31:20
retweeting from publications like RT and platforms like VK.
31:25
Adam Curry: This, oh, my goodness, this is pathetic. It
31:32
just is truly all that God has gab. Gab is their main source of
31:37
information. I mean, by the way,
31:40
John C Dvorak: looked at gab for three, four years I looked at
31:43
when it started, and that was about it.
31:45
Adam Curry: I mean, I have Soufan let me just see ya. So
31:50
they have their 2019 form 990 shows they get they had a
31:54
whopping $400,000 in income. No 578.
32:00
John C Dvorak: Really? Yeah. Have you looked on their
32:02
webpage? They have about 50 people working there? Well make
32:08
it 10 grand a year?
32:09
Adam Curry: Well, let me see. None of the none of the
32:12
directors are making any money. Meredith Stricker, the executive
32:15
directors making $105,000. So they must have spent it on
32:19
freelancers were also that where else could it have gone?
32:21
Actually, I can probably tell you what one was to the next
32:23
clip, while I'm taking a look at that.
32:25
Unknown: And what was interesting about this situation
32:28
is normally what we had seen, in previous news cycles focused on
32:33
Trump was it was very positive for the former president in this
32:37
case. And in this example, we started to see state backed or
32:43
state affiliated accounts like this one, sort of playing both
32:47
sides of the former President
32:51
of Russian state media, and this has primarily been a Russian
32:55
playbook so far this information warfare, or the Chinese getting
33:00
in on add a new element here.
33:02
They are the rough, you know, this
33:03
Adam Curry: is I'm sorry, this this reporter who is who I think
33:08
you and I agree, was a diversity hire after Judy keeled over and
33:13
had to leave. But this is the Dylan Mulvaney of PBS. This is
33:19
hurting PBS. Yes, this is
33:22
John C Dvorak: not hurting PBS at the least. People are lapping
33:25
this up like there's no tomorrow. She brings in sketchy
33:28
people to do interviews with I don't know where what her
33:31
Rolodex looks like, but it's terrible. And of course, she had
33:34
you pointed out I didn't realize this that both the limbic and
33:38
the SU fan operation are interconnected with the through
33:43
the back door nurse partners, the partners, and both of them
33:48
are losers and phonies.
33:50
Adam Curry: So they spent, they spent $346,000 on our other
33:55
salaries and compensation. Outside of the right, we have to
34:00
actually deduct the 150 and 150 from it. So 200 grand, is just
34:06
people who sent a couple of invoices. I don't know, I don't
34:08
know if this is just a website, man. There's not much going on
34:11
here. Now that was 2019 because they are woefully late on their
34:17
990 filings. But who cares? Who cares? Who cares about
34:22
2020 2021 2022
34:24
John C Dvorak: You gotta remember Lim big group. He
34:26
started that seven years ago still hasn't finished the
34:28
website. Let's finish this. This is the kind of sources she has
34:32
and brings on to PBS so everyone can lap it up.
34:36
Unknown: I'm gonna pull the clip back a bit and RT is that
34:39
Russian state media and Colin This is primarily been a Russian
34:43
playbook so far this information warfare or the Chinese getting
34:47
in on it a new element here
34:49
they are. The Russians are in the lead and they do this for a
34:53
number of reasons. One, it's a great return on investment for
34:57
them cost pennies on the dollar compared to kind Have more
35:00
kinetic options, attempts to build their own conventional
35:03
military. Why?
35:05
Adam Curry: don't convince attempts to wait a minute? Let's
35:08
hear the end again, hold on
35:10
Unknown: compared to kind of more kinetic options, attempts
35:13
to build their own conventional military out. They don't have a
35:16
John C Dvorak: military I guess. They use this they use bots,
35:21
chat bots, instead of building a conventional military. It says
35:26
cheaper.
35:27
Adam Curry: That always reminds me of that's what he said, Yes,
35:30
it's much cheaper because it works. We also upped trumpet get
35:34
elected, it worked. This is good stuff. I have hoped that Laura
35:41
Lopez has a long career at PBS at all I
35:45
John C Dvorak: know it's gonna be it's gonna be fruitful for
35:47
us. Yeah, we'll keep us in
35:49
Adam Curry: good graces for a long, long time. Very nice.
35:53
John C Dvorak: So now he continues to the Chinese are
35:55
taking a clue because why should they spend money on the military
35:59
when this is cheaper,
36:00
Unknown: and China's noticing they're seeing that it's
36:03
effective, that it's cheap. And they're not only helping promote
36:06
Russian disinformation narratives online, but they're
36:09
learning in the process. And so they're honing their own skills
36:12
and an attempt to kind of copy the Russian playbook as they
36:15
rolled out and use this in tandem with a more aggressive
36:18
foreign policy.
36:19
And Zack, we saw Russia as I just said, Do this in 2016.
36:24
Specifically, Senate Intelligence found that in 26
36:28
happened,
36:28
Adam Curry: did you get it something? Nope, let me hear.
36:32
Unknown: And Zack, we saw Russia, as I just said, Do this
36:35
in 2016. It specifically
36:37
Adam Curry: was an edit something went wrong there.
36:40
Either was hurt. She's sick, or something like
36:42
Unknown: we saw Russia, as I just said, Do this in 2016.
36:46
Specifically, Senate Intelligence found that in 2016,
36:50
that Russia targeted African Americans on social media to
36:54
create racial divisions. But
36:57
Adam Curry: Oh, hold on hold. I just got to stop this clip here.
37:00
That was the joy read a dos a Russian bots, which mo
37:06
completely destroyed that whole lie. It was American descendants
37:11
of slavery, real people who were tweeting, but we couldn't have
37:15
that. So Ben Joy read MSNBC launched the Oh, no, that's,
37:19
that's Russian bots. And here it is on your PBS state affiliated
37:24
media,
37:24
Unknown: Russia targeted African Americans on social media to
37:28
create racial divisions. But now some of these accounts appear
37:33
harder to attribute directly to Russia. So how has this social
37:37
media? Well, again,
37:41
John C Dvorak: if there are now how are they doing all this
37:43
attribution, if they're harder to attribute? Do they have any
37:47
evidence of anything? They're saying? I don't know. I'll play
37:50
the clip further. And we'll see
37:52
Unknown: fair evolved since 2016. Yeah,
37:55
that's a great question. If I can take a step back just for a
37:59
second, the work we do at Olympic really, first and
38:02
foremost focuses on are there narratives related to a
38:06
particular issue like, you know, this Trump indictment or the
38:09
election in 2016, that are resonating with different
38:13
audiences across the country? And if the answer to that is
38:15
yes, then we start asking, What should we do about it? Who
38:18
should take that responsibility? Where are these narratives
38:22
originating and who's amplifying them? And one of the really
38:25
interesting things that we've seen from 2016 to you know, now
38:29
in 2023, is, as you mentioned, with that Senate Intelligence
38:33
Report, the Senate, you know, was able to attribute 1000s of
38:37
artifacts back to Russia. And what we're seeing now is a lot
38:41
of the what appears to be Russian activity is actually
38:44
originating out of what we call proxy countries, right? Where we
38:48
can attribute it to a country like Nigeria, for example, where
38:53
it very much looks like a Russian information operation,
38:56
but it's difficult to make that direct connection from Nigeria
39:00
as the country of origin to Russia, even though on the
39:03
surface on the surface, it appears to be very much aligned
39:07
with Russia's interests as
39:12
John C Dvorak: a proxy country is Nigeria. Yeah, kidding me.
39:17
Adam Curry: That's where the hackers hangout. Nigeria is in
39:20
dire straits. Their money has completely collapsed. No, but
39:25
you know, they like Bitcoin. So maybe that'll come into play.
39:29
There wasn't there was a interesting article in New
39:31
Scientist. Interesting from the fact that they're so desperate,
39:36
they don't know what to say anymore. Here's the the head the
39:39
title of the article, we don't have any viable way of
39:42
countering conspiracy theories. Now, of course, that would be
39:48
because their bullcrap or their true beliefs and conspiracy
39:53
theories can damage societies and individuals, but the only
39:57
effective ways to counter them are impractical or According to
40:00
a review, or she they did at the University College of Cork in
40:05
Ireland because Oh yeah. They said that we've tried everything
40:11
to quash belief in conspiracy theories. And the pre bunking
40:15
didn't work. Pre bunk. Yeah, the pre bunking, you remember that?
40:21
We're gonna, we're gonna we're gonna tell you something's not
40:24
true before. It's a conspiracy theory. Oh, please. It is it is
40:30
intrigued bunking, I
40:31
John C Dvorak: forgot all about free money.
40:33
Adam Curry: Meanwhile, when it comes to war, an actual war and
40:39
conspiracy theories and war mongering. And this is about
40:43
China because I don't know why they're bringing in Russia.
40:46
That's old news lady. No one cares about Russia. Now it's all
40:51
China. This is where all the money is going. The military
40:53
industrial complex needs money, money, money. I can't tell you
40:59
the whole story because I was asked not to talk about other
41:02
than that. There are certain parts that are manufactured in
41:07
the United States that go into ICBMs. Bless you. And this
41:12
company, one of our producers works there says there has been
41:15
an incredible increase in orders for these, this particular part
41:19
for ICBMs. And he actually was like, I'm worried about you
41:23
know, we're gonna have a nuclear war and like, No, this is the
41:26
whole point. Move the money from Russia, Ukraine. Now we got to
41:32
spend money on China, much bigger threat China, and who's
41:36
leading the charge numero uno, war monger Reno. Lindy Hop,
41:41
Lindsey Graham,
41:43
Unknown: here's what I think. I think they're setting the stage
41:45
possibly for a blockade of Taiwan, that the Communist
41:49
Chinese party is going to test us dramatically this year and
41:53
next year before the election. So in 1961, the Russians tried
41:58
to isolate.
42:00
Adam Curry: You see, the Russians are the template that
42:02
they're no longer that there's no longer the Russian plate.
42:05
Well, it is a Russian playbook, actually, the Russian playbook
42:08
now done by the Chinese.
42:09
Unknown: So in 1961, the Russians tried to isolate West
42:15
Berlin, so I'm fearful.
42:19
John C Dvorak: How many years ago is that? 4640 years ago,
42:25
he's bringing up you know, back during the Crimean War in the
42:28
1800s.
42:32
Adam Curry: He's comparing Taiwan calendar he's comparing
42:35
Taiwan to a blockade of Berlin. Yeah, Alrighty, then. That's so
42:42
comparable eight,
42:44
Unknown: West Berlin. So I'm fearful that the Chinese may be
42:48
setting a conditions to blockade Taiwan in the coming months, or
42:53
weeks. And we need to respond forcefully if they do that. We
42:57
need to blockade all shipments coming from the Middle East to
43:02
to China
43:03
Adam Curry: Hold on a second. Does this sound like a good
43:06
idea? We now we need to not only blockade Taiwan from the
43:10
blockade, but we have to blockade oil shipments coming in
43:15
from the Middle East. You know, the guys who don't give a crap
43:17
about us anymore? freely.
43:20
John C Dvorak: And they're not going to they're going to run
43:22
this through pipelines anyway. So blockade that, but here's the
43:26
thing I'm going to ask, does the reporter then ask the question,
43:30
why don't we just blockade China from shipping US goods? Just
43:39
blocked cages stopped a shipment of Chinese goods into the United
43:43
States and will stop paying them for the goods because we're not
43:47
getting them. We'll just do that blockade. That seems to be that
43:51
would be very effective, wouldn't it Lindsey?
43:54
Adam Curry: Well, first of all, it's Fox News. So already
43:57
disqualified because they are the war mongering network as
44:00
well as others. And second of all, that doesn't help put money
44:05
into the military industrial complex,
44:08
Unknown: West Berlin, so I'm fearful that the Chinese may be
44:12
setting conditions to blockade Taiwan in the coming months or
44:17
weeks. And we need to respond forcefully if we need to
44:22
blockade all shipments coming from the Mideast to China and
44:28
let them know if you blockade Taiwan. We're gonna cut off your
44:31
oil. Oh, we need to train more aggressively Taiwanese forces so
44:35
they can fight like Ukrainians.
44:37
Adam Curry: This is starting to sound like Vietnam. We got to
44:40
train more aggressively. Taiwanese forces. Do we then
44:44
center their death?
44:45
Unknown: We need to put nuclear tipped missiles or nuclear
44:49
Adam Curry: justice tip just a tip nuclear.
44:53
Unknown: Biden won't do it. The military's asked for nuclear tip
44:56
cruise missiles to be put back in submarines like that. rushes
45:00
Russians, did we need more forces in the region? I think if
45:04
you do those things you could deter a blockade.
45:07
It sounds though, like
45:08
a ratcheting up of the situation. And if Taiwan is not
45:11
fully equipped, trained, armed, ready for this right, right,
45:14
right. We don't want to be leading to nobody.
45:18
Adam Curry: I believe it is Shannon. Is that the question
45:20
you hoped she would ask? No, I got I got to have Lindy Hop.
45:25
John C Dvorak: Question. I suspect she would have I know it
45:28
was Shannon. Just that's the hard hitting questions she would
45:31
ask
45:32
Adam Curry: back to Lady G. Bring up the
45:34
Unknown: situation. And if Taiwan is not fully equipped,
45:36
trained, armed, ready for this? We don't want to be leading to
45:41
war worth rate. Well,
45:42
nobody wants to world war three. But yes, you do. What kind of
45:45
world do you want to live in? Do you want to live in a world
45:47
where a an island called Taiwan could be taken by China? 90% of
45:51
the high end chips are made in Taiwan, they'd have a monopoly
45:54
on the digital economy.
45:56
Adam Curry: Oh, and they would run circles around us? Who are
45:59
they going to sell to themselves? Look, everybody, we
46:04
got AI in every house. Democracy we need to spread democracy.
46:09
Unknown: I want that to have a monopoly on the digital economy.
46:12
Do you just want to let Putin take whatever he wants in your
46:16
wait a minute, I want that to have a monopoly on the digital
46:19
economy. Do you just want to let Putin take whatever he wants in
46:23
Europe? I don't live in that kind of world. Wait a minute,
46:25
John C Dvorak: I don't understand. I'm config whatever
46:28
he wants. What is he taken so far?
46:31
Adam Curry: I'm confused, though. China's going to going
46:34
to have a monopoly on the digital economy, apparently, and
46:40
Putin can take whatever he wants come
46:42
Unknown: on a 90% of the high end chips are made in Taiwan
46:45
that have a monopoly on the digital economy. Do you just
46:49
want to let Putin take whatever he wants in Europe? I don't live
46:52
in that kind of world. There's no reason for this. Listen, I
46:55
believe in a One China policy.
46:56
Adam Curry: Well, yeah, we agree. There's no reason for
46:58
what you're saying Lindsey wants in Europe,
47:00
Unknown: I don't live in that kind of world. There's what a
47:02
horrible war
47:04
Adam Curry: where China owns the digital economy. And Putin takes
47:07
whatever he wants. Come on, man. It's and Shannon's going, Oh,
47:12
Unknown: take whatever he wants in Europe. I don't live in that
47:14
kind of world. There's no reason for this. Listen, I believe in a
47:17
One China policy, but I would be willing,
47:19
Adam Curry: wait a minute. Then he says listen, I believe in a
47:22
One China policy. Isn't the One China policy that includes
47:26
Taiwan. Yep. So how can you say all this and then say, Listen, I
47:32
believe in a One China policy is
47:34
Unknown: your low economy? Do you just want to let Putin take
47:37
whatever he wants in Europe? I don't live in that kind of
47:39
world. There's no reason for this. Listen, I believe in a One
47:43
China policy, but I would be willing to fight for Taiwan.
47:47
Adam Curry: All right, hold on. boots on Lindsey. You first
47:51
Okay. Lady G leaves the pack.
47:53
Unknown: Listen, I believe in a One China policy, but I would be
47:56
willing to fight for Taiwan. Because Taiwan is a democracy.
47:59
We stood with him for decades. So Tom wants to explain.
48:05
John C Dvorak: Well, you know, when the after the Communist
48:09
revolution in China, which had actually kicked out the the
48:14
quasi democratic revolution, which is the Republic of China,
48:19
the Chinese Communist, drove them out and drove them to the
48:24
island of Taiwan, where Chiang Kai Shek, who was the leader of
48:28
the mainland, and then he was then became the leader of this
48:30
this island where they were they ended up fleeing to we recognize
48:38
we never recognize the mainland Chinese. No, of course not. And
48:41
so it was always the Republic of China, China was, as far as we,
48:46
as a country was concerned, was done was the choice China. So in
48:52
the UN, it was the Republic of China that ret was represented
48:56
as China. And we kept that going until the Nixon administration.
49:00
And when and, and they all of a sudden, we said, Well, wait a
49:04
minute. We're gonna recognize the big boys, the People's
49:08
Republic of China, they just dropped the ball kicked the
49:12
Republic of China, which is Taiwan to the curb. And it was
49:16
something that Reagan was bitching and moaning about when
49:18
he when he ran for president in 1980. I actually have a clip in
49:23
the archives, which will never find no reason to look for it.
49:27
Where he kind of explained the whole thing on the Johnny Carson
49:30
Show.
49:32
Adam Curry: And you're saying we'll never find that? Probably
49:36
right.
49:38
John C Dvorak: It would be under Reagan.
49:41
Adam Curry: Reagan, Reagan Coast Guard, or burning in hell no, I
49:48
don't think so. I will continue with Lindsey
49:50
Unknown: take whatever he wants in Europe. I don't live in that
49:52
kind of world. There's no reason for this. Listen, I believe in a
49:55
One China policy, but I would be willing to fight for Taiwan,
49:59
because Taiwan Want us to democracy? We stood with him for
50:02
decades. So Tom was not the problem Lindsey Graham's not the
50:05
problem is Fenton in his sheet. Yeah. So what would I do to
50:08
deter a blockade? I'd let the Chinese the fact
50:11
Adam Curry: that he even says that means that he's thinking
50:14
man, people must think I'm at the problem here. Yes, you are.
50:17
You are warmonger, a horrible man, Taiwan.
50:21
Unknown: Because Taiwan is a democracy. We stood with him for
50:24
decades. So Tom was not the problem Lindsey Graham's not the
50:27
problem is Putin in his sheet. So what would I do to deter a
50:31
blockade? I'd let the Chinese know if you block a Taiwan,
50:34
you're going to have a hard time getting off from the Mideast. I
50:37
would increase training and give the F 16. They needed. In
50:40
Taiwan, there's a backlog I was back. That's
50:43
Adam Curry: why we couldn't send them to Ukraine. We couldn't
50:46
send them to Ukraine. Why can't we send them because we need
50:48
them for the military industrial complex bull crap in Taiwan,
50:52
Unknown: you blockade Taiwan, you're gonna have a hard time
50:54
getting off from the Mideast would increase training and give
50:58
the F 16 as they needed. In Taiwan, there's a backlog I
51:01
would solve that backlog. I would move more forces to South
51:05
Korea and Japan. I would put nuclear tipped cruise missiles
51:08
and all of our submarines all over the world like the Russians
51:11
did when they got out of the nuclear treaty and started using
51:15
cruise missiles nuclear tip that's what Reagan did in the
51:19
Cold War so I would up our game and if you don't up your game
51:22
now you're gonna have a war.
51:23
Adam Curry: Vote this guy out whenever you can. This guy
51:27
impeach this guy. He's
51:30
John C Dvorak: the guy is like stuck in office. Where's he
51:33
from? South Carolina doesn't know what to do with him. Bolus
51:37
vote him in again.
51:38
Adam Curry: Dame Jennifer, you're you're in charge. You're
51:41
your protector in South Carolina. I'm looking at you.
51:45
You got to do you got to impeach this guy? Just because
51:48
John C Dvorak: the other thing is he gets a lot of fund funding
51:51
from guess which sector of the economy
51:55
Adam Curry: technology sector I'm just guessing. Military
51:59
Industrial Complex sector. There you go. Yeah, that would make
52:03
sense. Wow. It's just It's unbelievable. And they just and
52:08
Shannon. You know, this is where I pray AI becomes real. Take
52:13
over Shannon's job, please. Anything but But what she's
52:17
doing to no good.
52:19
John C Dvorak: People are no good. She's birdie.
52:22
Adam Curry: I want to talk about China for a second. In
52:26
particular about the icon. I don't know about you. But I had
52:28
a lot of feedback on our discussion about the Maoist,
52:32
cultural way and people loved the Maoist discussion. They love
52:35
it. And someone sent me a clip from the Joe Rogan show from
52:39
last year from this guy, James Lindsay. And James Lindsay is
52:45
he's an author and he wrote the book issue where it is James
52:50
Lindsay, race, Marxism the truth about critical race theory. And
52:56
it's just just a short clip. And I think he nails it. He it's in
53:02
this in this like minute and a half. He completely tells us
53:05
what's going on what the Genesis is. And of course, you know,
53:08
we're now being distracted by, you know, men cross dressing as
53:13
women. And just to be sure, of course, there's some people who
53:17
actually have body dysmorphia or body dysphoria, of course, that
53:20
exists, but not to this degree. All right, there's no way it's
53:24
to this degree. And while we're all looking at men pretending to
53:27
be women, and that is truly what Dylan Mulvaney is doing. It's
53:30
80% of the girls, who are trans gendering two boys. That's
53:37
what's happening in the background. Now listen to what
53:39
he says, and how this started. And I think we were aware of
53:42
this, and we called it but we didn't realize how destructive
53:46
it truly was, from the
53:48
Unknown: Marxist perspective, having studied the history of
53:50
Marxism to 20th century, I'm telling you, this guy, George
53:52
Lucado, in Hungary laid this plan out because if you get
53:55
these kids like, you break down their innocence sexually,
53:58
especially what you can do is and you're gonna they're gonna
54:02
go home, and they're going to tell their parents that there's
54:04
some like lip romantic, you know, demisexual, you know, tree
54:09
tree self gender, or some, you know, pronouns tree tree self or
54:12
something that some in the parents can be like, what you
54:15
know, and they can be like, Mom, you just don't understand, you
54:17
know, so the separate the, the younger generation from the
54:21
older generations, you get them to break away and think that
54:23
they're old fogies, that they're repressive. You don't want me to
54:26
be my true self, etc. The goal is actually to destabilize the
54:30
kids identity so that they're gurrumul. That's identity
54:32
without an essence and queer theory. And then they're
54:34
grievable. You groom them into the stuff and then they look at
54:37
their parents culture, they look at their parents themselves.
54:39
They look at their parents generation, they look at the
54:42
parents religion, and they say, that doesn't represent me, we
54:44
need something completely different. So it's to set it's
54:47
to, just like in Mao's Cultural Revolution, and I mean that much
54:51
more literally, than then you might suspect. It's to cut the
54:53
tie between the continuity of culture up to that point,
54:57
including the family and to start a whole new culture You're
55:00
afterwards in Pol Pot called a year zero, I guess Klaus Schwab
55:03
calls it a great reset. But the goal is to separate the new
55:08
generation from the traditions and views of the old generation
55:11
from now it was to destroy the so called for old, old culture,
55:15
old habits, old customs and old ways of thinking Sergio and
55:20
Mandarin. And these kids would get like hopped up on this crap
55:24
became the Red Guard and like would go into temples and like
55:27
rip down all the statuary and tear things down and destroy all
55:30
the old old, all the old kung fu masters got their asses beat by
55:34
mobs to get rid of like old Chinese culture because it's
55:37
embarrassing or whatever. You know, there's all in Chinese
55:40
medicine, of course, and you can say, well, that's total
55:42
bullshit, you probably need it, but doesn't matter who's like
55:44
destroy the old culture and they would go home, they eventually
55:47
get to where they're beating their parents or beating their
55:49
teachers that were considered revolutionaries, or sorry,
55:52
reactionaries, instead of being in favor of the Chinese Cultural
55:55
Revolution. And Mao had whole programming used in schools, and
55:59
I see something so similar to that in our schools now that I'm
56:02
freaking out. It's yeah,
56:05
Adam Curry: this is exactly what we're seeing. Yeah, I agree. And
56:09
starting with pronouns,
56:12
John C Dvorak: starts with the pronouns. And it brings me to,
56:15
you know, at some point, starts to kind of go over the top, I
56:19
have a tick tock clip.
56:21
Adam Curry: Oh, shoot, hold on a sec. I was not prepared. When
56:26
you have a tick tock clip, we gotta have our jingle. Okay.
56:29
Tock, tock, tick tock doesn't need setup, or can we go
56:34
straight into it?
56:37
John C Dvorak: I don't think it needs to set up. We could talk
56:39
about it after you play it. But here is what's really this is
56:42
the DS that could be lack of control by the state of what's
56:48
going on. As opposed to what happened during the Maoist
56:53
counter revolution revolution, I guess Cultural Revolution
56:57
results in in this meet the mania, where the true insanity
57:02
starts to leak through and you end up with this.
57:04
Unknown: Y'all really want to try to say there aren't trans
57:06
kids. Let me tell you what there aren't there aren't sis kids,
57:09
okay, you telling your child Oh, you're a boy. You're a girl.
57:13
This is a child. This is a free spirit that has not learned any
57:16
of that bullshit and so you force it on them. So sickness is
57:21
the wound sickness is the delusion sickness is the lie
57:25
sickness is the place of pain transmis is the healing transit
57:29
This is the growth transit This is the truth. Transit this is
57:33
what we actually are we are fluid we are 70% water we are
57:37
God God is changed. God is trans. You're trans. You are
57:42
forcing your kids to be boys and girls. We're saying be whatever
57:46
you are baby, be free. Be water be light. Be sky be God because
57:51
guess what? That's what we actually are. What we actually
57:55
are is trans is change is love. We're not the ones doing the
57:59
forcing.
58:01
Adam Curry: You God is trans. Oh, that's a new one.
58:04
John C Dvorak: Yeah. Oh, that's gonna be you're gonna hear that
58:06
more. And
58:07
Adam Curry: does this. Oh, yeah. And does this. This man. I
58:09
presume it's a man. Does he have children? Of course not. So this
58:13
this is exactly the meme that is being propagated by Hollywood.
58:17
Here's a clip of Daniel Radcliffe, very successful actor
58:21
in a very limited role. He is Harry Potter. He is Harry
58:25
Potter. Everyone sees him and he is Harry Potter. And he is doing
58:30
I sit down with a group of trans kids, young trans kids. And he
58:35
is propagating this. This Bly. I learned
58:39
Unknown: from you know, out of the cradle that I am, you know
58:45
that I was a boy, I should like blue. I should like sports. I
58:49
should be manly. I should like superheroes. Yeah. And I just I
58:53
never associate myself with those things. And we are told
58:58
that we're not old enough to know to know this yet. Like, I
59:02
mean, I'm only 11 years old. How do I know I'm a girl. And I need
59:07
more time to think about this.
59:09
But there are also people who do have like a slightly
59:12
condescending, but well meaning attitude of like, well, deeply
59:15
young, and like how do we you know, that is a huge decision.
59:18
I'd love to hear from all of you about like, why we can trust
59:23
kids to like, tell us who they are. This was it.
59:28
John C Dvorak: I know. You gotta go the same thing that this
59:30
other guy
59:30
Adam Curry: was saying yes to trust because you can trust your
59:33
child. They're telling you who they are. Remember, your son
59:37
would be an actual transhumanist robot if you trusted him and
59:41
allowed him to continue the nonsense or if he hadn't snapped
59:45
out of it. And it hadn't been propagated and encouraged by the
59:49
parents who just like the mom was revolution template. have
59:53
been led to believe that Oh, okay. I am an old fogy. This is
59:57
just the new thing. This is of course this is how Oh, how it
1:00:00
works these days, what do I know? There's books, there's
1:00:03
people in lab coats telling me my child doesn't have issues
1:00:07
because of social media. And just because my child is a girl
1:00:11
in middle school and goes through tough times, because
1:00:14
that's
1:00:14
John C Dvorak: what I used to be ridiculed by mean, girls.
1:00:17
Adam Curry: That's right. You know, it's not like that doesn't
1:00:19
have that. No, no, that's all because you are in the wrong
1:00:22
body. And I have received so many messages from teachers, by
1:00:28
the way, most of these teachers now women, and here's how it
1:00:31
goes. A trans kid is put into your class. Now, the last thing
1:00:36
you're going to do is say, what's going on with this? No,
1:00:39
no, no, no, no, you can't do that. Because you will be kicked
1:00:42
out the school system, which you can't leave, because then you
1:00:44
lose your pension. Even if you want to go to do like a charter
1:00:49
school. And then the teacher is asked to report back how the
1:00:57
child's behavior is all the children's behavior. And what
1:01:02
they wind up becoming is a feedback loop for the therapist
1:01:06
and the doctor by saying, well, Johnny, I mean, I'm sorry, Annie
1:01:10
was acting up a bit today. So maybe you need to adjust Annie's
1:01:14
meds. And that's the destructive part. So it's, it's the
1:01:20
antidepressant, it's the math. And then it's the transgender
1:01:24
hormones, which and again, I'm telling you, we're missing the
1:01:27
important part, which is 80%. of transgender children are girls,
1:01:32
but we're all looking at the boys. Oh, in sports, all that?
1:01:35
Yes. While that is also an issue. That's not the people who
1:01:39
are going to kill you. We're going to come home and knife mom
1:01:42
and dad back. Well, the teacher
1:01:45
John C Dvorak: that could hit yes, that's going to be
1:01:47
happening a lot in the future, we have to also understand
1:01:50
something called social and emotional learning which show
1:01:55
Adam Curry: Oh, my goodness, you found the same thing I did.
1:01:58
John C Dvorak: Well, we've talked about this before,
1:01:59
because I've I've been on the mailing list I've been on for a
1:02:02
number of years for castle, the guys behind it.
1:02:05
Adam Curry: Yes. And you know, it's just some some lady who was
1:02:09
English as a Second Language teacher but consultant for the
1:02:12
in 2017. And decided to set up this K S ELC as ACCA SEL, which
1:02:21
is a part of G M. Oh, yeah. It's crazy. All this stuff that comes
1:02:25
into play all these acronyms.
1:02:27
John C Dvorak: And they've come up with this idea that is more
1:02:29
important than they literally say more important, and to teach
1:02:35
social and emotional learning, as they call it, then reading
1:02:40
and writing and arithmetic. Yep. They say this is much more
1:02:43
important, and you'll get better grades and get better scores.
1:02:46
And we have proof now and I've seen no proof whatsoever. And
1:02:49
all I see is news reports about how the American student is
1:02:54
being is being dumbed down. He's dumber than ever. Because they
1:02:58
know it seems you are teaching them emotional and social
1:03:01
learning. This is more important. Social justice is
1:03:04
more important than math. Yes. That's when you get a test score
1:03:09
show that we're just we're creating a bunch of dumb shits,
1:03:13
and this but they claim no, no, no, we're not as crisp making
1:03:17
every school where this has been implemented according to Castle,
1:03:21
the scores have improved.
1:03:24
Adam Curry: So so I've looked into this, I have a lot of links
1:03:27
in the show notes. And I want to because my question, what is
1:03:31
sel? And so I find a website and official website what is SEL
1:03:36
social emotional learning defined and explained. So just
1:03:40
tell me if you understand this definition. To fully understand
1:03:44
social emotional learning, it is useful to begin with a clear
1:03:47
definition. Sel is the vital framework through which people
1:03:51
of all ages acquire skills in working towards their own unique
1:03:54
goals, comprehending and managing their emotions,
1:03:58
nurturing positive relationships, making informed
1:04:00
choices, and feeling and exhibiting empathy. Learning SEL
1:04:04
provides students and young people with the abilities
1:04:07
required to succeed in life, both within their school and
1:04:10
beyond. What does that mean?
1:04:14
John C Dvorak: It means vote Democrat.
1:04:18
Adam Curry: Well, of course, what is happening now and when
1:04:22
you just have to hear this because now you're going to hear
1:04:25
the outrage and the anger from older people, adults, some
1:04:30
teachers have some, some parents who were missing what is really
1:04:36
going on here. And this is the the Kentucky laws that were
1:04:43
passed, which were not safety for children or safety for
1:04:47
parents and teachers being knifed by radicalized children.
1:04:50
No, this is anti trans legislation
1:04:53
Unknown: or the Kentucky General Assembly passing a sweeping anti
1:04:56
trans bill. The WHS COVID-19 was different Waiting for the vote
1:05:00
tonight. The bill bans gender affirming medical care for
1:05:03
minors allows teachers to ignore a student's preferred pronouns
1:05:08
and trans students from using the restroom tied to their
1:05:11
gender identities. WHS lovin nine teams Connor Steph and
1:05:15
photo journalists alive so
1:05:16
Adam Curry: bless you. Let's just pause for a second that
1:05:18
seems like some kind of logical logical legislation doesn't seem
1:05:25
out of the ordinary for minors not to be be put on to
1:05:29
John C Dvorak: almost all the acid suppose in in the media is
1:05:33
responsible for this bull crap. Anti trans legislation typically
1:05:38
involves no you know, trans promotion of little kids. No
1:05:47
brainwashing of little kids no books about In fact, I read some
1:05:50
some of the other day was going on all that Republicans. Yeah,
1:05:53
it was Charles Barkley on his on his MBA and the Republicans are
1:05:57
banning every
1:05:57
Adam Curry: book they can ban. They're burning books. They're
1:06:00
Nazis,
1:06:02
John C Dvorak: which I thought was a pourraient and bigoted of
1:06:05
him. And so no, no pornographic material for second graders. No
1:06:15
trans propaganda in the classroom. And whoa, trans.
1:06:20
Adam Curry: One of our knights John, one of our knights,
1:06:23
contacts me, he says, my 15 year old girl wants to transition to
1:06:29
a boy 15 one of her friends just had top surgery and now she
1:06:36
wants that to 15 and what what has been happening across and by
1:06:45
the way, Europe has stopped this Europe is stopping it they see
1:06:48
that it's bad and dangerous.
1:06:50
John C Dvorak: Every only this is the thing that we have to we
1:06:53
we bring it up but we don't harp on it. Yeah, we got this is only
1:06:57
in the United States. Why?
1:07:00
Adam Curry: Exactly. And when you hear that can Planned
1:07:04
Parenthood as a part of this Planned Parenthood, you can walk
1:07:08
right in and walk right out as a girl with on testosterone to
1:07:12
start medically transitioning.
1:07:14
John C Dvorak: Meanwhile, I can't walk right in and get some
1:07:17
testosterone to give me a little more energy. Really Welcome to
1:07:22
Planned Parenthood and say, Hey, I wasn't every testosterone.
1:07:27
Give us a couple of WHO CARES my testosterone I can use I'm
1:07:34
getting old
1:07:35
Unknown: team was there in Frankfurt for the vote tonight.
1:07:37
The bill bans gender affirming medical care for minors, gender
1:07:41
affirming
1:07:41
Adam Curry: medical care, okay, that is testosterone that is
1:07:46
hormones that are not meant for your body that is the beginning
1:07:49
of a lifelong as we've learned a life long sentence of medication
1:07:55
that's fighting against your own body. Whether you agree with the
1:07:58
trans issues or not that you are going to be on on medicine
1:08:02
forever. And girls, you know, this testosterone is
1:08:05
destructive. It sterilizes them ultimately, it makes their
1:08:10
vaginal wall so thin that it's destroyed. I mean, it's
1:08:13
horrible. Go watch affirmation generation, and which is made by
1:08:17
Democrats, progressive Democrats, that's what they call
1:08:21
themselves. It's right. They say it. They're the ones that are
1:08:25
saying no, no, no, this is wrong and over 80% D transition
1:08:29
percentage, we have to stop this. But when you hear what's
1:08:32
going on here, the same means that we've talked about in
1:08:36
previous episode that is perpetuating this medical, it's
1:08:42
real it should be it needs to be illegal. You can't do this to
1:08:45
children
1:08:46
Unknown: allows teachers to ignore a student's preferred
1:08:49
pronouns
1:08:49
Adam Curry: very important, right that we just heard. That
1:08:52
is key. That is key in the Mao's Cultural Revolution templates
1:08:57
Unknown: and trans students from using the restroom tied to their
1:09:00
gender identities and that's
1:09:01
Adam Curry: what Obama started remember, but black America went
1:09:05
yeah second term Okay, now is Brock's gonna do it for us and
1:09:08
what did they get gender neutral bathrooms? Yeah,
1:09:12
Unknown: good work eslava nine teams Connor Steph and
1:09:14
photojournalist Elijah McKenzie have the emotional reaction.
1:09:18
Despite the desperate cries
1:09:23
and scared
1:09:26
No
1:09:26
impassioned pleas dare you.
1:09:30
You're gonna kill kids. Blood will be on your hands.
1:09:34
Kentucky GOP lawmakers succeed in getting anti trans
1:09:38
legislation to the governor's desk where it's expected to be
1:09:41
vetoed shame on you.
1:09:43
Thank you for your time, man. I am honest to God so embarrassed,
1:09:48
ashamed. And for the first time in my life. I wish I was not a
1:09:52
Kentucky and
1:09:54
it's hard to put into words just how fast moving this bill was
1:09:57
during a surprise Senate Education In committee vote
1:10:00
Republican Senator Max wise and Representative David Mead
1:10:04
blindsided everyone reviving what was thought to be a dead
1:10:07
Senate Bill 150.
1:10:09
John C Dvorak: There's evidence that this is and that's our job
1:10:13
is to protect children. And that's what we're doing here.
1:10:15
Unknown: The new expanded version includes far reaching
1:10:17
measures, it would have school districts create explicit
1:10:20
bathroom policies forcing trans students to abide by their
1:10:23
biological sex. It also bans gender affirming care for anyone
1:10:28
in Kentucky under the age of 18. Good solid, solid, suppose
1:10:32
surgical procedures and non surgical procedures. We
1:10:35
are attacking a group of vulnerable people as we're
1:10:38
calling late meetings, and sneaking bills in this is not
1:10:44
good government.
1:10:45
The director of Planned Parenthood told me this bill is
1:10:47
the farthest reaching anti trans legislation in the entire
1:10:51
country. Supporters say it backs parental rights
1:10:53
watch the committee or were in the committee, you would have
1:10:55
seen the testimony from certain doctors and certain mental
1:10:58
health professionals. So yes, there were some consultants but
1:11:00
opponents believe it will lead young queer Kentuckians to leave
1:11:04
the state or worse,
1:11:05
please
1:11:06
think about a kid that, you know, think about how you would
1:11:09
feel if a kid you couldn't get access to medical care, and they
1:11:14
came home, and you found them
1:11:15
that the General Assembly will have time to override any
1:11:19
vetoes, lawmakers returned for that in two weeks.
1:11:22
Adam Curry: And that's that's the mean, it's like, you know,
1:11:25
it's would you rather have a live daughter or a dead son or
1:11:29
vice versa. And to say, imagine a child can't get medical care,
1:11:34
it's not medical care. These you know, you can spell therapists
1:11:39
two ways therapist or the rapist. And that's what's going
1:11:43
on this, it's and then even we had some friends over there
1:11:47
younger than we are the, you know, the early 40s. They have
1:11:51
three boys in Austin. They go to a Christian school, I think it's
1:11:54
a private school, and what are they learning? Social emotional
1:11:57
learning skills. So if you want to do you want to check that you
1:12:00
want to make sure you know what's going on with that?
1:12:04
Because at that
1:12:05
John C Dvorak: Christian school, their teaching?
1:12:08
Adam Curry: Yeah, yeah. Exactly. In Austin, you know, it
1:12:12
John C Dvorak: doesn't take much you get because the pitches are
1:12:16
so good. There's a sales pitch involved in all this stuff by
1:12:19
using certain words and terms like anti trans legislation.
1:12:23
Yep. When it could have been rewarded as Pro Child
1:12:27
legislation or something like that
1:12:29
Adam Curry: pro not medicating your kid on all kinds of stuff
1:12:32
that's pro not
1:12:32
John C Dvorak: kill. Yeah. I mean, there's different ways to
1:12:34
do and stuff. And so you get one or two of these activists, these
1:12:37
Maoists. And that's the real thing that has to be done, we
1:12:41
have to somehow get back to the to the mentality where we're
1:12:47
investigating this as a, as a cultural revolution that is
1:12:51
being is being promoted on the American public and they're
1:12:55
going to use the children to do it in a mouse a tongue style and
1:13:02
has to be stopped and luckily didn't go well. I'm just saying
1:13:07
Luckily, the top people running the country are not behind it
1:13:12
necessary. I mean, there's maybe they're in there. They're all
1:13:15
over the place these verses but they have to be routed out.
1:13:20
Adam Curry: And that in your this, the Cultural Revolution
1:13:22
was what? 1958?
1:13:25
John C Dvorak: No, no, it was in the 60s, I believe. Okay, so not
1:13:27
that long ago, a little red book, The Little Red Book,
1:13:30
Adam Curry: not that long ago that this happened and children
1:13:35
killed, beat their teachers up beat their parents up. Okay, so
1:13:41
then this, obviously, this is not the way to do it. This is
1:13:45
from MSNBC representative named Webster Barnaby just yesterday,
1:13:50
Unknown: to all the folks that are in the audience that
1:13:52
consider themselves. Gender Dysphoria says, I don't know
1:13:59
what all that means. I really don't know what all that means.
1:14:04
I'm looking at society today. And it's like I'm watching an X
1:14:10
Men movie. It's like we have mutants living among us on
1:14:15
planet Earth. The Lord rebuke you, Satan. All of your demons,
1:14:21
all of your EMPs who come and parade before us? That's right,
1:14:27
I called you demons and EMPs
1:14:30
that's some crazy stuff right there.
1:14:33
Adam Curry: So that's not the way to do this. But even one of
1:14:38
our own no agenda social. You know, the guy who was going off
1:14:43
on us about something you said about you know, don't teach
1:14:47
second graders sexual homosexuality or sexuality,
1:14:50
whatever it was, and, and what I ultimately got on email because
1:14:54
I'm trying to calm the guy down. I was like, hey, you know, chill
1:14:56
out, you know, we will. No agenda nation is filled with all
1:15:01
kinds of people. gay, straight, lesbian, bisexual, trans Sure,
1:15:07
actual trans people who had real real gender dysphoria and some
1:15:10
who bought into it and are sorry that they went down that path.
1:15:13
We read a note two shows ago, we, we I don't think you and I
1:15:17
actually care what people adult people do with their life, their
1:15:22
body, etc. As long as they donate, let's be honest about
1:15:24
it. But this poor guy has gone off the rails and what do I get?
1:15:32
Ever since you became a Christian, you have your mental
1:15:35
acuity has declined. I mean, this is the conversation that's
1:15:38
going funny, you're gonna destroy stuff, this is not the
1:15:42
way to go is not the way to go.
1:15:45
John C Dvorak: So ever since I'm gonna start using that, oh, you
1:15:48
will feel free. Ever since you became a Christian, you've been
1:15:52
a dick.
1:15:54
Adam Curry: As our opening openings, yes, I'm gonna get to
1:15:58
saving that for an ISO. But seriously, this is. I think
1:16:05
you're right. What we need to keep harping on is why is it
1:16:09
that Finland, Sweden, the Netherlands, France, all the UK,
1:16:15
countries who pioneered transitioning for children
1:16:19
pioneered it? Why are they all stopping? And why are you not
1:16:24
hearing about that? And only in America? Does this continue?
1:16:28
This is the threat, not Lindsey Graham's ICBMs. This is the
1:16:33
threat and it's a real threat. You start, I think there should
1:16:39
be in the analysis transition for a second to coin a phrase.
1:16:44
Companies that use pronouns are part of the problem. It's part
1:16:50
of the problem, the pronouns, your your corporation has been
1:16:54
hoodwinked into a Maoist template. That I mean, I didn't
1:17:00
quite put it all together until I heard that that James, James,
1:17:04
Lindsey get Lindsey guy, because what I always saw was, No, Mom,
1:17:08
no, Dad, it's they and you're right. That's what breaks that
1:17:12
bond between it puts the child above the parent and that's the
1:17:17
beginning of it. So the pronouns aren't literally ground zero and
1:17:22
the real problem and that's how you get someone like the VP of
1:17:27
Bud Light, who was so brainwashed, went to Harvard, by
1:17:31
the way got a coveted internship at General Mills. Me I went
1:17:36
through the Fast Track becomes VP of Bud Light. Interesting, by
1:17:40
the way, how I love it when people send me clips that we
1:17:43
literally played on the on the show. Now the whole world is
1:17:46
like a week ago, or like in Jamaica, we completely
1:17:49
deconstructed Fifi llegaron fueler. Hey man, look at this. A
1:17:53
cbdc coming in October. Yeah, thanks. Thanks for listening. By
1:17:56
the way, I understand. It's hard to listen to every single show.
1:17:58
But if you're gonna
1:17:59
John C Dvorak: listen to the whole show, a lot of people
1:18:00
can't do it. That's true. That's true. We're educating the truck
1:18:04
drivers of America.
1:18:05
Adam Curry: So now this is interesting, what's happening.
1:18:08
And there's a lot of interesting analysis popping up about Dylan
1:18:11
Mulvaney been I am pretty sure that and I actually fear for
1:18:16
this young man's life because this was the role of his
1:18:19
lifetime. You know, he had when COVID head he was already kind
1:18:23
of like a bit player couldn't really get acting jobs created
1:18:26
this character. And then it just got picked up. And then before
1:18:29
he knew it, he was in front of the president. That was the
1:18:33
launching pad. Thank you Jen Psaki for falling for that
1:18:36
bullcrap. Or perhaps doing it purposefully. And that and by
1:18:40
the way, I was right, because there is now Budweiser. Anheuser
1:18:43
Busch is saying, Well, you know, this was not approved by anyone
1:18:47
in a senior position. We are reevaluate, reevaluating our
1:18:50
influencer program. This was not a paid spokesmodel ship, which
1:18:55
was an influential program that I could have participated in
1:18:58
well, with the right hash tag, and I could have maybe gotten a
1:19:02
little bit of money. If I sent enough people to the Budweiser
1:19:05
website. It was not a spokesmodel. But that ship has
1:19:10
sailed. And now we have the blowback and what I find the
1:19:14
most interesting is that the headlines are Anheuser Busch
1:19:21
loses $5 billion. Now, that's not true. But that's the
1:19:27
headline. And I will say, when they say that, that's because
1:19:32
the stock price went down a buck and a half. That's not losing
1:19:36
any that's not less that's losing market cap value.
1:19:39
However, when you look at the chart, you'll see that the
1:19:42
Anheuser Busch stock started to spike up on March 15. I mean, it
1:19:49
just starts to spike and it went from I have it here. Excuse me.
1:19:54
It went from where it was it here 59 91 to a high of 6657
1:20:07
first week of April, and then the stock starts to go down. And
1:20:12
we're now currently at 6434. So it lost a couple of dollars. But
1:20:18
it's not like it was a horrible loss of money is flowing out.
1:20:22
But it doesn't matter because the meme is out there and people
1:20:25
are repeating it because they don't know how it works. That's
1:20:27
kind of a good thing. What's interesting is why did this
1:20:31
stock start to spike on the 15th Because on the 15th, Anheuser
1:20:37
Busch InBev won the unprecedented back to back
1:20:42
creative marketer of the Year Award at the lions it's it's
1:20:49
doubly hilarious. This is the big con Awards, where the
1:20:54
advertising industry all jerks each other off. So this was I
1:20:58
presume this was taken as a big win. Oh my God, these guys know
1:21:01
what they're doing. And now this influencer thing blows up in
1:21:04
their face. Now will will this make a difference? Will other
1:21:10
corporations take note? I think definitely they're going to take
1:21:14
a good look at their influencer campaigns. It's entirely
1:21:19
possible that this takes off like crazy and Bud Light becomes
1:21:22
a massive bestseller. I don't know it's
1:21:25
John C Dvorak: already the number one beard can't get any
1:21:27
better. And it's pushing this look at that.
1:21:30
Adam Curry: So now we have the next one on Deck is Jack
1:21:32
Daniels, who created a campaign for Ru Paul's drag race. That
1:21:44
the only way any any one wins with any of this if you if you
1:21:47
want to go after corporations, and I would say go after them
1:21:51
for using pronouns because you know that's ground zero of the
1:21:54
dangerous stuff. Don't buy their products. That's the That's the
1:22:02
real question. Can America leave its shitty products behind the
1:22:06
stuff that you absolutely don't need at all? You don't need to
1:22:10
buy it. You don't need to have it. You don't need to drink it.
1:22:13
You don't need to eat it. Can we do that? I doubt it.
1:22:18
John C Dvorak: I think you can if enough people decide to but
1:22:21
you know I don't know how many people that drink Bud Light are
1:22:23
even aware of Dylan Mulvaney or any of this?
1:22:26
Adam Curry: Well, the doom of anything. I think that that has
1:22:29
legs drown that
1:22:30
John C Dvorak: you may or may not all I know is that people
1:22:33
that drink Bud Light. Most of them don't, but I'd say are
1:22:36
unaware. And if you did, and you were aware, it's not that hard
1:22:40
to switch. I mean, I've gotten into arguments over the decades
1:22:44
about beer flavors, and you will have people say I could spot a
1:22:49
Coors in a pile of Bud you know, I don't know if you can. Yeah,
1:22:56
these beers all have a similar quality Bud Light is I mean
1:23:00
drinking drink Budweiser, you can drink Miller Lite, you can
1:23:03
drink Michelob light you mean whatever. Or have a you know
1:23:09
something a little more substantial, you know, some real
1:23:12
beer and IPA or something from a decent Brewer, small Brewer. But
1:23:19
I you know, Nikes not the best shoe out there. No, or sports
1:23:24
bra for all I know.
1:23:26
Adam Curry: Well, when you if maybe if you wear a Nike sports
1:23:29
bra, you will get some testosterone from from Planned
1:23:32
Parenthood
1:23:33
John C Dvorak: for me? I don't think so. And it was the other
1:23:36
brands that are risking it. I mean, while Daniels is taking a
1:23:40
chance here, it's just dumb.
1:23:41
Adam Curry: Well, so if you look at the AMA, the Association for
1:23:46
national advertisers, they are they are pushing this gem score.
1:23:53
A gem is the first data driven mythology for identifying gender
1:23:57
bias in media. And this is mainly about women. But of
1:24:00
course, what's a woman right? We don't know anymore. And they
1:24:04
claim ads with positive gems score. So this is very much like
1:24:08
an ESG score. It's a gem score, drives purchase intent by 42%
1:24:13
amongst total and all female customers, higher gym scores
1:24:17
equally 56% increase increase in bank brand reputation and
1:24:22
positive ROI tied to high gym scores increased sales by two to
1:24:26
5x.
1:24:28
John C Dvorak: Well give us an example of a high gem score ad
1:24:30
Do they have any in there?
1:24:32
Adam Curry: They do have. Let's see. see her in action. Let's
1:24:35
see. I wish I had that because they don't solicit information.
1:24:43
They don't have they don't seem to have these. Okay? So they say
1:24:49
Citibank and Sheryl Crow are lifting up women in the music
1:24:52
industry. They have all these campaigns but they don't
1:24:55
actually show the pure results. But if you look at and this is
1:25:02
tied to be
1:25:03
John C Dvorak: bold crap, well, it's saying this stuff is true
1:25:06
doesn't mean it's true if you don't have literal examples. I
1:25:10
mean, this reminds me of that I have a clip about musk, you
1:25:13
know, going after the BBC about Yeah, exactly, exactly. I heard
1:25:17
that commentary I we can play later. But well here without
1:25:22
buying their thesis what what publication is this? Well, I
1:25:26
Adam Curry: have the ads. But I don't know what they don't give
1:25:31
you is the actual results. So here's Unilever, Unilever. Let
1:25:40
me see. Is that a good one? Oh, Ford. Let's see Ford built Ford
1:25:44
proud. This is, this is what I'm seeing here. There's always
1:25:50
these butterflies. This is a black woman in a racing car with
1:25:55
a racing helmet. That as soon as I put my foot
1:25:57
Unknown: on the throttle, all of the nervousness just goes away.
1:26:04
A lot of people say listen, drivers are Daredevil. She's
1:26:07
Adam Curry: a stunt driver. De Bryant. i Well, they're showing
1:26:10
a badass woman who cares what color she who cares? It's a
1:26:13
woman. I don't think that's a great example house for doing by
1:26:17
the way. They've not good. Do they have two to 5x sales?
1:26:22
John C Dvorak: Today? I can tell. So,
1:26:25
Adam Curry: but all the women who are mainly women, and this
1:26:28
is trying to this is tied to global citizen.
1:26:31
John C Dvorak: Well, if they're gonna go with women, you know,
1:26:32
you have to assume that if they're going to push the score,
1:26:35
and then women are they'll just trans have to be brought in
1:26:38
eventually. Exactly.
1:26:40
Adam Curry: That's what's going on here. That's what's going on.
1:26:44
And I'm not so sure that they're and they have examples of that.
1:26:48
And by the way, if you look at the be who we are, you know who
1:26:51
we are, who we are, the leadership. They've got the
1:26:57
coach Fiona Carter, Chief Marketing Officer, Goldman
1:27:00
Sachs, Mark Pritchard, Chief Brand Officer, Procter and
1:27:04
Gamble, Patty Kerr, co founder Executive Advisory
1:27:07
John C Dvorak: amid these the people that are pushing the gym
1:27:09
score. Yeah, they're all women pushing to all this average
1:27:13
stuff, more stuff for us. Okay, well, now we know it's just a
1:27:17
fraud and
1:27:18
Adam Curry: every single one of these pictures, glamour shots,
1:27:22
because that's what real women look like. Sure, you got the the
1:27:26
nice fuzzy background, the professional makeup, the good
1:27:29
lighting, these are not selfies. It's not what real women look
1:27:35
like in real life. And that's also just
1:27:38
John C Dvorak: set guard putting you and me putting some sort of
1:27:41
Operation together and then promote podcasting?
1:27:44
Adam Curry: Well, yes. And I think we should consider that
1:27:47
because you know, after this episode, we are totally the
1:27:49
transphobic old dudes. To DS the top.
1:27:53
John C Dvorak: We're not transphobic we're just bringing
1:27:55
it we're anti communist,
1:27:57
Adam Curry: correct anti war anti communist. Now let's let's
1:28:01
add race. Can
1:28:02
John C Dvorak: that be bad?
1:28:03
Adam Curry: Let's add racist to it. I have two clips that are
1:28:05
that should be mentioned because our poor black brothers and
1:28:08
sisters have been pushed to the background. You don't count
1:28:10
anymore. It's all trends. Now. Here's Susan Rice. Speaking at
1:28:15
Al Sharpton National Action Network, listen carefully.
1:28:19
Unknown: In the last 20 years, the US had a GDP shortfall of
1:28:26
$16 trillion due to discrimination against black
1:28:33
Americans. If we closed our racial gaps, we could add
1:28:41
another $5 trillion to GDP over just the next five years. And in
1:28:48
case you're wondering, that's not my math. That's according to
1:28:53
Citibank. Yeah.
1:28:58
Adam Curry: $16 trillion because of racism.
1:29:02
John C Dvorak: Oh, brother, I want to see the Citibank report.
1:29:06
Adam Curry: I didn't look it up. I figured it wasn't worth
1:29:07
looking at.
1:29:09
John C Dvorak: It's probably not but I still like to see it.
1:29:11
Adam Curry: Now. The second short, short short clips. We all
1:29:15
saw the the near insurrection at the Tennessee State House and
1:29:20
the of course complete racist rejection of only the black two
1:29:24
dudes and not the white lady.
1:29:26
John C Dvorak: Although everyone voted to get here out to a set
1:29:28
one person that's the difference.
1:29:31
Adam Curry: Now who was that?
1:29:33
John C Dvorak: While one Republican had said well, since
1:29:37
she didn't do some one thing, he wasn't going to give it the vote
1:29:41
to kick her out. So she got stayed in. But it was It wasn't
1:29:45
like it was a unanimous by any means. But that was a good bit.
1:29:48
If I if I was on the other side of the fence, I'd be playing it
1:29:51
the same way.
1:29:52
Adam Curry: So Justin J. Pearson is one of the two Tennessee
1:29:55
lawmakers who was rejected and thrown right out of of his
1:30:00
position. Here's a video when he was running for that. And he was
1:30:03
only in there for a week. Here's a video of when he was running
1:30:05
for that seat Dustin
1:30:06
Unknown: J. Pearson. And I'm running for president of PSG.
1:30:09
There are a few reasons that we're running this campaign
1:30:11
this, you know, hold
1:30:12
John C Dvorak: on a second. I know where he got this to. He
1:30:17
this is when he was a student in college. Yes. Correct. Running
1:30:21
for the student government. Correct. Not for the position
1:30:24
that he got kicked out.
1:30:25
Adam Curry: I'm sorry, I didn't mean to sound confused and
1:30:27
correct. This is just him a while ago,
1:30:29
John C Dvorak: this is him a lot. Yeah, not too long ago, his
1:30:32
normal self or at least the way he portrayed himself. This is
1:30:36
actually quite, I wish I had made these clips. But
1:30:40
Unknown: with representation, how can we represent all voices
1:30:44
in a conversation? I wanted to do this by partnering with
1:30:47
organizations from the booty Democrats, to the Boone
1:30:49
Republicans, I want to bring together different voices,
1:30:52
dissenting voices, voices that maybe more liberal or more
1:30:55
conservative, in order that we can reach a point of sort of the
1:30:59
radical middle.
1:31:01
Adam Curry: And then at the Tennessee State House, notice
1:31:05
the code switch
1:31:06
Unknown: seemed like the NRA and gun lobbyists might win. But
1:31:11
that was good news for us. I don't know how long this
1:31:15
Saturday in the state of Tennessee might last. But all we
1:31:20
have good news, folks. We've gotten good news that Sunday
1:31:24
always comes.
1:31:28
John C Dvorak: He went through. He's also got to hear a wind
1:31:30
from just a normal looking cut to a big afro with sunglasses.
1:31:35
He looks like you know, he looks like Stokely Carmichael. If
1:31:39
anyone can remember that.
1:31:39
Adam Curry: Whoa, reference shoots over everyone's head.
1:31:42
Nice.
1:31:44
John C Dvorak: Good nice. Not everyone. There's always three
1:31:46
or four guests that I disagree with Adam, I know exactly what
1:31:49
you were talking about when it says
1:31:51
Adam Curry: Michael Of course, of course. Anyway, it's it's sad
1:31:57
is sad to see this happening. And um, and you, you and I know
1:32:01
parents who are convinced that their child is trans and how
1:32:05
radical they are about it. And and I've read the books I've
1:32:09
read the books it's not about your kid the books about how do
1:32:12
you handle society? How do you handle your your Republican
1:32:15
neighbors? How do you handle this? How do you how do you
1:32:18
handle the gays who don't like it? The gays? Yeah, like
1:32:21
John C Dvorak: gays are dual gays, you have to remember we
1:32:23
got to remember this is trans split. And most gay men and gay
1:32:30
women are all cisgendered. And as you recall that little tick
1:32:36
tock clip I played earlier, this guy has declared war on sis. On
1:32:41
sis,
1:32:42
Adam Curry: we're the problem because God is trans. I mean, we
1:32:45
heard it here first.
1:32:46
John C Dvorak: God is trans and trans is God. There's your
1:32:50
sacrilegious issues.
1:32:54
Adam Curry: So just to simplify it. We really need to stop the
1:33:01
pronouns. And that's a hard one because that's so embedded. It's
1:33:06
so embedded and it's it's become like this cultural lien recently
1:33:11
embedded. Yeah, but it is really deeply embedded. It's a core.
1:33:16
It's a quite, I
1:33:17
John C Dvorak: would say Jay, Jay and Brennan here. And we are
1:33:22
all into the pronouns Alina liaises, they stay in them and
1:33:26
Himanshi JC and Jessie don't don't bring it up. If it
1:33:36
happens, it shows up. So I can't say for sure. Jessie. Maybe
1:33:42
maybe not. But it's pretty deeply ingrained. Yeah, but the
1:33:47
closer you are to, to the Z Generation Z to your Zilla
1:33:52
escalas millennial if you're close as a millennial
1:33:55
Adam Curry: oh there you go. Yeah, I wish they had they
1:33:59
talked a little bit of history and that one clip that one clip
1:34:03
by James Lindsay to me says it all good clip Yeah. I should
1:34:09
have gotten clipped the day really
1:34:11
John C Dvorak: wasn't I would have to give it a couple of days
1:34:14
Joe Rogan
1:34:16
Adam Curry: Come on Come on, man. That's not fair. All right.
1:34:25
Let's see. Oh, well
1:34:26
John C Dvorak: they see there's anything else on this topic?
1:34:28
Adam Curry: Oh, you have whoa is there more I'm I'm depleted.
1:34:34
John C Dvorak: Hazel I got that. Laura Lopez.
1:34:41
Adam Curry: I don't think so.
1:34:42
John C Dvorak: Yeah, it doesn't look like you got anything else.
1:34:44
Now.
1:34:45
Adam Curry: I will take a minor when a tiny teeny one. As Elon
1:34:52
Musk has officially changed the corporate Twitter into x. It's
1:34:57
common.
1:34:58
John C Dvorak: And I do have three Elon Musk clips.
1:35:01
Adam Curry: I know I'm gonna let him this is, you don't think I'm
1:35:03
leading you right into it? I don't know. And I'm pretty sure.
1:35:08
And also today Twitter taps eToro to let users trade in
1:35:12
stocks and crypto. So now he's bringing he's bringing the
1:35:16
financial stuff. Yeah. And I already I am pretty sure that
1:35:21
come July, he will most likely be one of the launch partners
1:35:27
for fed now, which makes a lot of sense. Now he does have to be
1:35:32
a bank or have a banking license. But that's not a
1:35:34
problem because he can rent that from from any number of people.
1:35:38
How do
1:35:38
John C Dvorak: I get by little bank, it's no big deal, no
1:35:40
problem at all got the money to buy Bank of America. And he
1:35:45
Adam Curry: and he has registered to be a money changer
1:35:48
to to do conversion. So that would be part of it will be the
1:35:53
crypto and other things. And then I think that, you know,
1:35:58
he's positioning himself as you did a really good job with this.
1:36:03
This BBC thing really, really did a good job. I
1:36:07
John C Dvorak: never know what if you watch the BBC. Oh, do
1:36:10
tell. Well, the BBC cut out they've cut this thing down. 10
1:36:15
ways to do that. Do you have the original? I took some clips from
1:36:20
the original bucks. But a couple of things that I thought were
1:36:25
interesting. There's the best one, of course is the which the
1:36:30
BBC refused to play pretty much is where it goes after the game
1:36:33
on hate speech. A guy says to set the stage tell us what's
1:36:36
going on. Because there's an interview with this guy, James
1:36:40
Clayton, or I can't remember his name, but he's the tech guy from
1:36:44
tech guy. He's the tech guy. And he doesn't know anything about
1:36:47
musk. And the joke as if you read the analysis of a lot of
1:36:50
this is that he had all these canned questions he had on his
1:36:54
little phone that he read off the phone. That's pretty cool.
1:36:58
And then he ran out of questions, and somebody says, he
1:37:01
ran out of questions and having kind of cut it short, even
1:37:04
though we went on for about 15 minutes or more. He says, but
1:37:08
you got the world's richest guy sitting right in front of you.
1:37:13
Have you run out of material that asked him? Are you kidding
1:37:16
me? Ask him for his stock tip. I mean, holy mackerel. How dumb
1:37:23
are you?
1:37:24
Adam Curry: Well, he is the tech reporter because he has a phone.
1:37:28
John C Dvorak: He has a felony. So this is the best. This is the
1:37:31
best part. And this is I missed the beginning of it. But this is
1:37:34
the part where he, him and musk go after each other over? Well,
1:37:39
I understand that Twitter's got a lot more hate speech, I
1:37:43
noticed that. So must push his back on this. And he again, he
1:37:47
beats the guy up. Here we go. I
1:37:51
Unknown: said you've seen more hateful content. But you can't
1:37:53
name a single example not even
1:37:55
one. I'm not sure I've used that feed for the last three or four
1:37:59
weeks. And
1:37:59
how did you see the hateful content content?
1:38:01
Because I've been I've been using, I've been using Twitter
1:38:03
since you've taken over for the last six months, because
1:38:05
then you must have at some point seen that you for your hateful
1:38:08
content. I'm asking for one example. Right? If you can't
1:38:10
give us an all I'm saying I say so that you don't know what
1:38:14
you're talking about, really, because you connect a single
1:38:17
example of hateful content or even one tweet, and yet you're
1:38:21
claimed to the hateful content was high? Well,
1:38:24
that's a false No. When I could just lie it what No, no, what I
1:38:28
claim was there are many organizations that say that that
1:38:32
kind of information is on the rise now whether whether it has
1:38:37
I mean, right? Like the the Strategic Dialogue is this,
1:38:42
you're in the EU in the UK, they will say that. So
1:38:45
people will say all sorts of nonsense. I'm literally asking
1:38:47
you for a single example. And you can name one, right? Yeah,
1:38:50
Adam Curry: I call this a big win for Elon. And wow, what an
1:38:53
easy one. And how dumb is that? I mean, again, these are the
1:38:57
things that go viral these days. You know, so you have been
1:39:00
Anheuser Busch lost, like $6 billion, just fall fill filled
1:39:04
out a thorough that pocket. Wow, that's $6 million. And now, now,
1:39:09
this and how many? How many times? Have you ever been
1:39:12
interviewed by someone who was this dumb? I mean, it happens
1:39:15
all the time, particularly from the military all the time. And
1:39:18
they just have a list of questions. And they don't really
1:39:22
know what they're talking about. And this is the presumptuous
1:39:24
stuff now, and this, by the way, could have easily have been Kara
1:39:28
Swisher she could have easily said, Well, you know, hate
1:39:31
speech is on the rise. And that's why she doesn't get an
1:39:35
interview with it. But I would love to hear her interview with
1:39:38
Elon Musk. Because you're
1:39:40
John C Dvorak: right, because she Yeah, she was a part PBE
1:39:42
killer. So there's just a couple of little things that I thought
1:39:47
were interesting. This was the banning Twitter this little
1:39:52
shorty.
1:39:54
Unknown: Tick tock has also been in the news. There's talk of,
1:39:56
perhaps by the administration wanting to potentially ban it or
1:39:59
or are forced to sail. What's your view of the situation?
1:40:03
I just don't know enough about what's going on there. I can't
1:40:06
say I have a strong opinion on tick tock.
1:40:08
So you'd have an opinion on on whether it should be banned or
1:40:11
not.
1:40:11
You know, I'm generally against banning things. So I probably
1:40:18
not being fair. I mean, it would, it would help Twitter I
1:40:21
suppose if Tik Tok was banned, because then people would spend
1:40:24
more time on Twitter unless I'm on Tik Tok. But even though that
1:40:29
would be that even if we would help Twitter, I would be
1:40:33
generally against banning of things.
1:40:36
Adam Curry: Oh, well, you're you're pro China.
1:40:40
John C Dvorak: Well, I think that he had that was the right
1:40:42
answer. So he did. Okay.
1:40:43
Adam Curry: Let me just let me just say the accusation is, he
1:40:47
is pro China, because China is the big shareholder and Tesla.
1:40:54
Tesla is important. China is important to Tesla. Yeah, yeah.
1:40:58
You can say that. Yeah. I'm just saying that's what people say,
1:41:01
John C Dvorak: Okay, it's right, reasonable. What do they say
1:41:04
about this? And this was, I think, or is this kind of like,
1:41:08
and like to know more about this, the dog CEO?
1:41:12
Unknown: You said that you were going to stand down? Chief
1:41:16
Executive, right. Okay.
1:41:19
I have not the CEO of Twitter, my dog is the CEO. Well, okay.
1:41:24
What
1:41:26
John C Dvorak: was she's already stepped down his dog is the CEO
1:41:29
of Twitter. Do we know this?
1:41:33
Adam Curry: Well, that would make sense. If, if the Twitter
1:41:36
is now x Corp, then the Twitter Corp can can easily have his dog
1:41:42
as CEO. Let me see. You long as
1:41:46
John C Dvorak: you said, you see again. Does the dog have a did
1:41:53
use a paw and checks? The pod error as a signature for a
1:42:00
check? I don't
1:42:01
Adam Curry: know. But I do see this. And I'm saying See,
1:42:04
because I actually see it. I do see this. And I do believe I do
1:42:07
believe and I do see this headline everywhere. Hmm. Well,
1:42:13
I
1:42:14
John C Dvorak: can listen, get more play. I didn't know this
1:42:16
until I listened to this interview. What shows the dog
1:42:19
was the CEO of Twitter?
1:42:21
Adam Curry: I think it's probably true. Because Twitter
1:42:25
has been moved over to x and Twitter is just an empty shell
1:42:29
likely, possibly. And that is them. So that dog is the CEO of
1:42:35
Twitter because it's just a piece of paper. It's not a
1:42:38
corporation anymore, that
1:42:39
John C Dvorak: so there's another little tidbit that's
1:42:41
floating around. It's a local story. Musk wanted to take the W
1:42:47
off of the sign it says Twitter so it says Twitter. Yes.
1:42:51
Adam Curry: Another part of moving into X Corp. He doesn't
1:42:53
care about the brand. Twitter is going
1:42:55
John C Dvorak: back so they wouldn't let him do that because
1:42:57
there's some I don't know why some zoning thing. So he painted
1:43:02
the W out with white paint. So it just says kind of Twitter or
1:43:07
Twitter. And I was listening to the story it we have this late,
1:43:12
the show had KPI X woman this new woman came out from LA named
1:43:16
Sarah Dawn she who's very attractive, but kind of cross
1:43:20
eyed woman who's got to be six foot tall. And she wouldn't say
1:43:26
it she wouldn't say titter is not no, not about tits. Oh, no.
1:43:32
She wouldn't say titter. She just was kind of skirted the
1:43:35
issue as it were. But But Twitter's like you know, hey, it
1:43:40
means giggling.
1:43:41
Adam Curry: Well, if Twitter Inc, no longer exists as of
1:43:45
April 4, then yes, he can say my dog is the CEO of Twitter
1:43:50
because Twitter does not exist. I know if he has a dog. He
1:43:55
probably doesn't.
1:43:56
John C Dvorak: Yeah, now you're talking. He doesn't have a dog.
1:43:59
Why do we assume he has a dog? We've never seen this dog. He
1:44:03
never talked about his dog. Most people have dogs. They post a
1:44:06
picture of the dog once in a while.
1:44:09
Adam Curry: Is that Doge dog? Oh, no. It's not true.
1:44:19
People are so gullible and so stupid anything to fill up the
1:44:22
airwaves. Anything at all? I did want to mention I'm very
1:44:27
disappointed that we had this whole big to do about ending the
1:44:34
COVID Emergency by a vote by a veto proof vote, which forced
1:44:41
President Biden to terminate the national COVID emergency and
1:44:46
what does the TSA do? They come out with an emergency amendment
1:44:51
saying no, you know be a steal can't come into the United
1:44:55
States as a non national non green hold card holder. Not am
1:45:00
citizen without full COVID vaccinations until May 11. What
1:45:05
is that all about? And why aren't arcane now?
1:45:09
John C Dvorak: Now you you have now made it clear that there's
1:45:14
something else going on? Yes. And I only because this is a
1:45:19
this is way over the top.
1:45:23
Adam Curry: And does TSA really have this kind of power
1:45:29
John C Dvorak: over the guest. So this would administrative
1:45:31
status like we have no idea how much power these administrative
1:45:35
units
1:45:36
Adam Curry: well the way that the way they're using? Well they
1:45:38
do I'll answer the question the way they use their power. It's
1:45:42
not like you come to America and customs says show me your COVID
1:45:46
papers. Know what the way they do it. They're the
1:45:50
Transportation Security Administration not Department of
1:45:53
Homeland Security not border. What does it see as CPB Border
1:46:01
Patrol I'm missing something in our customs Customs and Border
1:46:03
Patrol? Thank you know, what they have control over is
1:46:07
transportation. So the way this order works is they say no
1:46:12
airline may allow a passenger to board without providing proof of
1:46:18
COVID vaccination. So it has nothing to do with our with our
1:46:21
border policy. That is a it is an agency run amok.
1:46:27
John C Dvorak: And I would like it's all done at the other end.
1:46:30
Adam Curry: Yes. Before you get you, you. So they won't give you
1:46:32
the airline has to check you which of course, you know, I'm
1:46:36
sure some airlines like you got to COVID thing. Okay, good.
1:46:39
You're good to go. There's no way to check if you had enough,
1:46:42
you know, what is enough how many vaccinations or what is
1:46:44
fully vaccinated. All of that is so subjective at this point. But
1:46:48
the fact that this is just accepted and the same lawmakers
1:46:52
who Oh, whoa, we're going to end this haven't done that is pretty
1:46:58
lame. And yes, no, I think it's suspicious. It is and maybe it's
1:47:02
for this ABC Good Morning America.
1:47:04
Unknown: The CDC is advising health officials in the US to be
1:47:08
on the lookout for cases of an Ebola like disease called merb
1:47:11
Marburg, from siblings to virus
1:47:14
harbors. Listen, I think the last three years of the pandemic
1:47:17
has really taught us how important it is to keep our eye
1:47:20
on what's happening in other parts of the world. This alert
1:47:23
now from the CDC World Health Organization is already talking
1:47:26
about it about
1:47:28
Adam Curry: the world BLESS YOU THE WORLD Hort, the World Health
1:47:30
Organization already talking about it. Who cares.
1:47:34
Unknown: This alert now from the CDC World Health Organization,
1:47:37
is there an additional
1:47:37
Adam Curry: she says from the CDC World Health Organization
1:47:41
like it's one thing now, we're gonna be get why No, but we got
1:47:45
to identify happening
1:47:46
Unknown: in other parts of the world. This alert now from the
1:47:49
CDC World Health Organization is already talking about it about a
1:47:53
virus not new. It was first identified in 1967, but it's
1:47:56
called Marburg virus. It is rare, it's very similar to Ebola
1:48:01
in terms of the fact that it spread through bodily fluids or
1:48:04
blood of an infected and actively sick person symptoms,
1:48:08
fever, headache, fatigue, muscle and joint pain, nausea,
1:48:11
vomiting, diarrhea and internal bleeding in severe cases, and it
1:48:15
has a very high fatality rate averages 50%. That's the average
1:48:19
it could be as high as 80. We have to underscore right now
1:48:22
there are no known cases in the United States, but India and
1:48:27
Equatorial Guinea, the east and western coast of Central Africa
1:48:31
and again, those countries have very active borders. So again,
1:48:34
it's important for us to keep an eye on what's happening in other
1:48:37
parts of the world.
1:48:38
Adam Curry: I am very happy with this development because we have
1:48:40
a lot of jingles.
1:48:50
We got so many Ebola jingles so we can do more.
1:48:53
John C Dvorak: Marburg is slightly different. Well, the
1:48:55
correct I'm sure it was made in the same lab. Let's go. Let's
1:48:59
Adam Curry: go to the master. Let's go to the man who we trust
1:49:02
implicitly because you cannot shoot him down Dr. Peter
1:49:05
McCullough. And this is from his own notes. He does little like
1:49:10
kind of like a it's more like he's recording in his
1:49:12
dictaphone.
1:49:14
John C Dvorak: He could even call it bringing it up to his
1:49:16
mouth and maybe whispering notes. You
1:49:18
Adam Curry: can call it a podcast. Here he is giving a
1:49:21
little intro to Marburg
1:49:23
Unknown: actor Anthony Fauci stated with certainty that there
1:49:26
will be another infectious disease crisis. Inevitably,
1:49:29
there'll be another pandemic, whether it's this next year or
1:49:32
decades from now. Unquote. In this interview with CNN, Jim
1:49:35
Acosta, Fauci also doubled down on public masking is a useful
1:49:40
strategy and his theory that SARS cov two arose from nature
1:49:43
both of which are known to be completely disproven in
1:49:47
published studies in by our own US government agencies. I found
1:49:50
his comments about another crisis worse worth taking up for
1:49:54
the Philo virus Marburg.
1:49:57
Adam Curry: There you go. So he's onto the ball crap and what
1:50:00
Other symptoms.
1:50:01
Unknown: There have been sporadic outbreaks of Marburg
1:50:03
disease in Sub Saharan Africa for 50 years. Here's the CDCs
1:50:07
description of the syndrome quote after incubation, a period
1:50:11
of two to 21 days symptom onset is sudden and marked by fever,
1:50:15
chills, headache and myalgia. Around the fifth day after onset
1:50:18
of symptoms of maculopapular rash, most prominent in the
1:50:21
trunk, chest, back and stomach may occur. nausea vomiting,
1:50:25
chest pain, or sore throat, abdominal pain and diarrhea may
1:50:28
be symptoms may become increasingly severe and can
1:50:31
include jaundice, inflammation of the pancreas, severe weight
1:50:34
loss, delirium, shock, liver failure, massive hemorrhaging,
1:50:38
and multi organ dysfunction.
1:50:39
Adam Curry: All right, sounds groovy sounds sounds like sounds
1:50:44
like a good one to me. And what can we do about it? Well, would
1:50:48
you believe it or
1:50:49
Unknown: not mentioned is hydroxychloroquine which other
1:50:52
papers have proposed has been a useful first empirical agent
1:50:55
against Philo virus and other viruses in this genus species
1:50:59
among the immediately available products in the world to
1:51:02
consider that are known to be safe hydroxychloroquine and
1:51:05
favipiravir a Japanese antiviral for influenza and COVID 19 would
1:51:10
be among the first empirically deploy
1:51:13
John C Dvorak: the one the Japanese one, go back it back.
1:51:17
Unknown: Among the immediately available products in the world
1:51:20
to consider that are known to be safe hydroxychloroquine and
1:51:23
favipiravir ajet
1:51:25
Adam Curry: favipiravir. Yeah, never heard of it. No, but we
1:51:28
want some Japanese antiviral,
1:51:30
Unknown: yes, influenza and COVID-19 would be among the
1:51:33
first empirically deployed countermeasures five
1:51:36
Adam Curry: Vera mir. fav I have a pyramid here. F IV FAVIPIRAV.
1:51:45
Ir. Father, Father, Pierre Amir. Found it you got it?
1:51:52
John C Dvorak: No, I didn't found it.
1:51:53
Adam Curry: Oh, I'll keep looking. We need it. But you
1:51:57
know, there are there are there's competition. There's
1:52:00
competition out there. You know, this is not does not come from
1:52:03
the CDC, the World Health Organization does come from the
1:52:06
world Indian organizational network.
1:52:10
Unknown: So will age three and eight be China's next big
1:52:14
export. After the deadly Wuhan virus. Is this bird flu going to
1:52:19
be Beijing's next gift to the world?
1:52:23
Adam Curry: Eight three and eight. Sounds like oh callsign.
1:52:28
Hotel three Nov. Eight.
1:52:30
John C Dvorak: Great callsign.
1:52:34
Adam Curry: So who knows? Who knows? Who knows how that's all
1:52:37
gonna go down? Who knows? Crazy? Sure, just crazy. All right. I
1:52:47
think we can agree we do want I'd like to do one more sequence
1:52:50
of stories here if you got something good. Well,
1:52:52
John C Dvorak: I do have my Hong Kong update which had been
1:52:55
trying to play for a while you do do you? I do. I do. I do.
1:52:59
Let's do it. Let's start with Hong Kong update and T D UK.
1:53:05
Unknown: This is in D. D,
1:53:07
since Beijing imposed a national security law in Hong Kong.
1:53:11
people's freedoms there have been increasingly eroded. Just
1:53:15
recently, two men were arrested for owning books about sheep
1:53:18
trying to hold back walls, which authorities say are seditious
1:53:23
more than 150,000 Hong Kongers have applied for a special visa
1:53:27
over the last two years to start new lives in the UK. Earlier I
1:53:31
was joined by the director of the UK and EU Public Affairs for
1:53:35
the committee for freedom in Hong Kong Foundation, Mark saba.
1:53:39
Hi, Mark, it's great to speak to you. And people in Hong Kong
1:53:43
have increasingly had their freedoms taken away. Can you
1:53:46
tell me what it's like for Hong Kong is there right now.
1:53:50
So since the introduction of the National Security Law, there's
1:53:55
been a real crackdown on civil society. Media has free media
1:54:00
has collapsed. state run media is the norm and any other media
1:54:05
that's been allowed to stay open is because they're following CCP
1:54:08
guidelines or authority guidelines what they can and
1:54:10
can't say. So essentially, they've lost their their free
1:54:13
status. In terms of civil society, Hong Kong had a very
1:54:17
vibrant sector, which would light candles on Tiananmen
1:54:21
Square memorials in Victoria Park, there was a very healthy
1:54:25
attitude towards peaceful protests and so on. And all of
1:54:29
us been crushed, using the National Security Law as a
1:54:32
pretext calling people subversive or sedition or
1:54:37
whatever else it is. And it's gotten to the point now where
1:54:39
two people arrested this week for owning a book that had been
1:54:43
banned, not distributing it or selling it, but just for owning
1:54:47
a book that they consider the authorities considered to be
1:54:49
subversive. Incidentally, it was a book written by speech
1:54:52
therapists about sheep and wolves, and the authorities took
1:54:57
that as a sleight against the CCP being the wolves. Under
1:55:00
people being the sheep, which is ridiculous, but that's how
1:55:02
sensitive they become to any form of criticism or perceived
1:55:06
criticism. So you can probably go about your daily life. You
1:55:10
know, go to your job, go to the supermarket, go to the beach
1:55:14
without much problem. But it's an entry step outside those
1:55:18
lines, those defined lines that you see very strictly how
1:55:21
everything has changed. No, you
1:55:23
Adam Curry: don't hear anything about this. I mean, anything
1:55:26
zero? There's no we'd
1:55:28
John C Dvorak: like to bless the Chinese or did Lindsey Graham
1:55:30
goes on about one thing or another, but this whole Hong
1:55:34
Kong story has been completely suppressed by the mainstream?
1:55:37
Why? Yeah, I mean, good story.
1:55:39
Adam Curry: Is there any? I mean, is there any commerce
1:55:42
going on with Hong Kong anymore? Can you still go there? And
1:55:45
John C Dvorak: I'm pretty sure it's pretty much the same
1:55:47
except, you know, the Chinese are over looking everything.
1:55:49
They're keeping a watchful eye out his part, too.
1:55:53
Unknown: And a lot of people have now escaped to the UK. Hong
1:55:57
Kong has, I think, more than 150,000 people applied for these
1:56:02
b&o visa schemes to live and work here, but some of them have
1:56:06
faced assault even here in the UK, haven't they?
1:56:09
Yeah, that's right. So there's been about 130 140, who
1:56:13
successfully received their b&o status. There's many 1000s of
1:56:17
others who've applied as asylum seekers. But it hasn't always
1:56:21
been smooth sailing. Just as with anyone who moves to foreign
1:56:25
country, there are difficulties with language, getting used to
1:56:28
society finding health care, education, jobs training,
1:56:32
although most Hong Kong has have have some bilingual capability,
1:56:35
not everyone who comes does and like every other group of people
1:56:40
who move here they need assistance with with that
1:56:42
integration. But the other part is, is the slightly more
1:56:46
sinister part where a lot of Hong Kongers have found that
1:56:49
they have actually come under attack of some sort. Some have
1:56:53
reported being followed. Many when they gather have had
1:56:57
stories of harrassment in bars, restaurants cafes, being
1:57:01
followed as a fairly common one being photographed or videoed.
1:57:04
There was a few who reported that as a small demonstration in
1:57:07
Edinburgh, a group of men in balaclava started filming
1:57:10
everyone and of course, that disperse the crowds in 10
1:57:13
seconds. And there is the odd story of violence and actual
1:57:18
physical assault. There was a young girl in Edinburgh who told
1:57:21
us a story how she was sitting in a cafe with some friends of
1:57:23
hers from Hong Kong, and a group of men walked in and said, Are
1:57:26
you from Hong Kong? And when they said yes, they took all
1:57:29
their coffees and threw them on them. And of course, many of the
1:57:32
girls got scolded and burned. There are some incidents of
1:57:35
people having been actually beaten on the streets. There are
1:57:38
stories even in Chinatown in London with people being shouted
1:57:41
down or followed or Harris as they walk down the road. So
1:57:44
unfortunately, there is a slightly sinister side which the
1:57:48
British government hasn't fully got to grips with.
1:57:51
Adam Curry: Is Hong Kong so unimportant that we don't have
1:57:54
to go and protect it. LINDSEY GRAHAM
1:57:58
John C Dvorak: Well, we get was given up by the British was it
1:58:02
was a crown colony, right. And Margaret Thatcher is the one to
1:58:05
sign the signed off on giving it back to Chinese. Right. Right.
1:58:09
But that's an a protector. I know
1:58:11
Adam Curry: that we had we had finance, finance, finance, and
1:58:15
we just screw up they don't need the finance and screw these
1:58:17
people.
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John C Dvorak: They move most of that to Shanghai. Okay, all
1:58:22
right. Good to go. But it this idea of this Chinese they do it
1:58:26
here too. But they set up their own police forces, harassed and
1:58:30
nationals.
1:58:32
Adam Curry: Yeah. Is that still a thing? I
1:58:34
John C Dvorak: remember it'd be I think so. Huh? Just play
1:58:38
update three.
1:58:39
Unknown: In fact, the most obvious sign that they haven't
1:58:42
got to grips with was the beating of Bob chan in
1:58:44
Manchester. You may recall that there was a protest outside the
1:58:48
Consul General at the time of the CCP National Congress when
1:58:52
Xi Jinping became leader for life. And the Consul General
1:58:58
there physically participated in the assault of a Hong Kong who
1:59:02
was protesting he was dragged into the grounds. He had his
1:59:05
hair pulled, he was kicked, he was punched. And it was only
1:59:08
thanks to a policeman who broke protocol by stepping into the
1:59:11
grounds of the concert and pulled him out that he was fine.
1:59:16
But the shocking thing wasn't even the beating. The shocking
1:59:19
thing was the appalling reaction by the British government. They
1:59:22
didn't expel the diplomats even though they were caught on
1:59:24
camera, even though the Consul General went on TV the next day
1:59:28
to admit what he did. And he did it with pride because it was in
1:59:31
the interest of defending China. The government did nothing to to
1:59:37
punish those people. And if you're not punishing diplomats
1:59:40
for massively breaking protocol, they should have been expelled
1:59:43
the next day. What sign are you sending to other authoritarian
1:59:47
regime diplomats? But worse than that, what you're telling Hong
1:59:50
Kong is, is that you've come here to be safe, but you're not.
1:59:55
Adam Curry: Hmm. Well,
1:59:57
John C Dvorak: yeah, we actually saw that that Did played that
2:00:00
video that was played up a little bit in the media?
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Adam Curry: And I kind of remember that. But what kind of
2:00:08
mean, how does how can this not be? How can action not be
2:00:13
undertaken? If this is also an if and I think you may be right
2:00:15
this is happening in America with a with a police force. What
2:00:21
is who's on the take here? Who true who's allowing this to
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happen?
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John C Dvorak: That's a good question. Well, it has to do
2:00:27
with the diplomatic service. So State Department,
2:00:30
Adam Curry: I blame Feinstein. State Department state. Yeah,
2:00:33
well, okay. Well,
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John C Dvorak: Lincoln, your buddy,
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Adam Curry: careful who you call my buddy.
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John C Dvorak: All right, here's the end of it.
2:00:41
Unknown: And so it had a very negative effect on the mentality
2:00:44
of many Hong Kongers who, who suddenly realize that they're on
2:00:47
their own, even though they're here that the government is not
2:00:49
here to protect them. On one hand, they've been given a visa
2:00:52
to get out of Hong Kong. On the other hand, when they're here,
2:00:55
more or less, they're on their own. I spoke to a young Hong
2:00:59
Kong students in Edinburgh who said to me, she had been
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followed and harassed and bullied multiple times in
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Edinburgh. And she said to me, I left Hong Kong to run away from
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China. And now I'm in the UK China's still chasing me. The
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implication being that they're always there. It's unrelenting
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and it's it's really intimidating. intimidating.
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Adam Curry: Wow, man, none of this is good.
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John C Dvorak: China. Good. No,
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Adam Curry: maybe Lindsey Graham's got a point there. A
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nuclear tip
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John C Dvorak: the poison the top of his head.
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Adam Curry: With that, I'd like to thank you for your courage to
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in the morning tea with the man who put two seats in the
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electrical equity ladies and gentlemen, please say hello to
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my friend on the other end, Mr. John C. Guevara.
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John C Dvorak: In the morning, you must read Adam curry also in
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the morning all ships seamlessly refuge near such games and
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nights out there
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Adam Curry: in the morning to all the trolls in the troll room
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who had been taken care of everything. I love seeing the
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trolls giving me all kinds of info feeding back kicking out
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douchebags with 1939 is the troll count for today. But we
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are late. We are late with our count because the
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John C Dvorak: donation segment I think will be good to
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Thursday. So that's not a bad number.
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Adam Curry: So it's a one one donation segment show everybody
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that should tell you something right there. Of course came up
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because we'd like to do kind of a traditional a traditional
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piece of art was certain holidays like the Easter holiday
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that was episode 1545 which was titled take stapler abuse and
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networks came closest with the no agenda chick egg with the no
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agenda egg as the as the oh and a miss Budweiser. Although you
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know it kind of fit a little bit it wasn't it was bitch that
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John C Dvorak: didn't say Miss Bud Light.
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Adam Curry: I did. I did networks did that. We appreciate
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that networks did it and but we looked at other stuff and just
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it really wasn't there. And I can't explain the main beam but
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the
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John C Dvorak: one we both liked. Yes, was by Scarem venga
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go back. But it was so sacrilegious that we decided
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that
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Adam Curry: was was a bit much we did get a chuckle out of it.
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Other stuff that I mean, there was just there was some other
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things you actually liked sir Polka tours. Art although it had
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dates on it and everything and Listen Live, which was not
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exactly what we were looking for. I don't know. Nothing just
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hate us what we did look at fluff comet. Why did we choose
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the fluff comet?
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John C Dvorak: Which one was that? Oh, I
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Adam Curry: remember why the flip fluff comment is the Easter
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egg. The Easter Bunny, Easter Bunny stealing the Easter egg.
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The easter egg had no agenda on it. But the mistake of that art
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was carried to vorak was like little teeny letters in the
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background on the hill. Not not readable. That's not how it
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works. I mean, look at the predecessors, you need to have
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our names big in lights or at least legible. So we chose
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networks. Art, I mean, it doesn't matter. I by the way
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also did like his his little Devorah back also had an egg for
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the Oh, with little heart in it. If there was some nice nice
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elements to it the Miss Budweiser part. For me, it
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should have been Miss Bud Light or even if you didn't use it.
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who probably would have been good without that? Maybe. What
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do you think?
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John C Dvorak: I liked him to ban right? It made no sense. No,
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Adam Curry: not really. It didn't. And what was the bra
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you'd like to bra?
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John C Dvorak: Was it was their bra? No, no, that was when I
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found for the newsletter. Oh, right. Right. Right. Okay, curry
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Devorah because two boobs literally there you go.
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Adam Curry: Thank you so much two networks of course and all
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of the artists who diligently tried to become the the artwork
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could try to create the artwork that we use for the show. It
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does help it does get us gets the show notice. I'm certainly
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gets the show notice on social media, people will go Oh, hold
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on a second, what is this and click through and they find a
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fabulous show or that just reminded that we have such a
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great show. There's a lot of things going on in your life,
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you need to be reminded sometimes to listen to the show.
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There's a lot of podcasts you listen to. So we appreciate it.
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We thank you very very much. Now to thank the producers,
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executive producers and Associate Executive producers
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who brought us the treasure for episode 1546. And we kick it off
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with Craig Thurman from Westfield, Indiana with $1,000
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which we always love. Longtime Boehner first time donor instant
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there. Greg. been listening since episode one. Wow. And I'm
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ashamed to say this is my first donation please do do. You spend
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Craig, who soon will be knighted sir Craig of the Darkmoon. He
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assigns about 75 cents to each show. And that may be the max
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that he can afford. So he's doing it this late in the game,
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which you know, at least he's helping us out now and we
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appreciate it. My daughter recently graduated from Purdue
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Unknown: You've got karma.
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John C Dvorak: Rachel Fraser comes in next from St.
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clairsville, Ohio. Switcheroo in the Morning John and I'm just
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God's grace and a few miracles now extremely successful
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businessman, wonderful husband and father all right, who were
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with him and every step of the way. Nice. He has listened to
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the truth. We appreciate your efforts more than you know.
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Adam Curry: Nice. Oh, nice. Not a wonderful woman you are.
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Congrats Shawn. Cam Warren is in Cordova, Illinois 333 33. We
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love that as the executive producer forever titled
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donation. Great show guys. My exit strategy starts this
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Friday. So I thought I'd get my last payment in from my
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knighthood before that. I'd like to be known as Sir cam of
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Cordova or Cordova. What do you think it is Cordova. Cordova,
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Cordova, mutton and Mead seems like a pretty good combo so I'll
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stick with that no jingles but karma is always appreciated.
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Keep it up. Here you go cam Thank you.
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John C Dvorak: Sir data Ops is next. Edgerton, Wisconsin. Love
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Adam Curry: You've got karma. Patrick McGugan New Salem,
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Adam Curry: Okay, I may have to shorten it up Matt from
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Manassas, Virginia to 33 and 33 cents which is an Associate
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Executive Producer ship. It's been a rough year in sales but I
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wanted to donate and supportive Adams acceptance of Jesus Christ
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as Lord and Savior John's birthday and the excellent
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analysis. The inspiration for my donation was Adams heartfelt
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reading of the trans story on a recent episode Yes, the no
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official Noah the formerly former official no agenda treni
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Ali Jade. I'm just going to call who call AJ from now. I'm
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donating my treasures specifically a portion of my
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Commission's as no agenda accompanies me on nearly every
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one of my commutes doing in home design and sales in Northern
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Virginia, Maryland and DC, where I sold face to face a home
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improvement to one of Adam's least favorite media
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personalities. Who could that be?
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John C Dvorak: Well, Virginia? Yeah. So a spook central he must
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run into some very crazy I'm
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Adam Curry: gonna say Jake Tapper would be while No. Well,
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that's one of my least favorite media Wolf Blitzer eyes doesn't
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come Oh, no, no, it's a she so that must have been Oh, that
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must have been Joy read. She was nice enough. But I remember
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being all GD at the air of elitism, though. This is good
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content. And names I heard dropped while their eyeballs
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gotta be her. It's gotta be it's gotta be choice read. I have
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also come across to disgraced FBI directors in my sales
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experience. Make no mistake, the commie elites love luxury items
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and see us as the servant class. Sidenote, $4,000, in quote,
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profit sharing was withheld from me last year due to my refusal
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to disclose my job status with my employer, who had no problem
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sending me into homes all year. I do believe that a nationwide
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build back better memo went out to most corporations and they
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all jumped in headfirst been listening to the show since
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2020. There's nothing else quite like it. Since then. I now often
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hear my beautiful wife and homeschool teacher listening to
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the show, and have hit at least one other person in the mouth
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since keep up the excellent work. Sorry to see Moe facts go
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yes, we have nine more episodes and when we close it out at 100
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part of this donation is poured out for the dead homies at mo
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facts no karma. I have the Holy Spirit. By the way, John, the
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best weed whacker is the ego power model, all as well as most
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of their other battery powered lawn equipment. Well, there you
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go. Mystery solved,
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John C Dvorak: necessarily.
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Adam Curry: Thank you very much. So
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John C Dvorak: what's happening with Moe?
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Adam Curry: Well, we decided to end the series at 100. When we
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started four years ago, Moe had a very different job. And he
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takes you know, he has 40 clips. It's a very, very well prepared,
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pre produced show that he could do while he was working. Then of
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course he was fired for not accepting the vaccine into his
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life. And then he had to become an entrepreneur and he's working
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his ass saw and he just he just doesn't have the time for it
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right now. So for now, we'll wind it out some throughout this
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year with nine more episodes, take it up to 100. And then we
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still will talk and we'll still of course we're good friends
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now. It may be in the future we can start up again but he has
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four children who are also homeschool now because of the
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stupidity in Northern Virginia schools etc. And vaccine and
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mass requirements. So I see it as a great moment for him to to
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be able to regroup you know, it's hard being an entrepreneur
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certainly these times and we all love him for what he's done. And
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these are evergreen shows, you know, it's not like they're not
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worth they're not worthless, they're all really valuable
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John C Dvorak: so I would like to dissuade the two of you from
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doing this well, I know it's easy for me to say it's very
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Adam Curry: easy for you to say I believe me this was not a
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decision come to easily believe me,
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John C Dvorak: Oregon local 33 is the last on our list here for
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the associate and executive producers executive producers
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give her selenium I know is what she
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table can you also request the big fat jobs coming for Paul so
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we can be a no agenda couple forever and ever. And that's it
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Adam Curry: That's about the fattest one I got before we move
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on to the rest of the producers we do have a make good for
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Jackie Greene. Somehow we missed his $440 donation I do want to
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tell you what happens. Oh please do tell me what happened.
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John C Dvorak: We have an old all old Pay Pal account. And how
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Adam Curry: old is it is so old I forgot to ask. Yes.
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John C Dvorak: And every once in a while some old link that's
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floating around the ether as somebody clicks on it to donate
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it goes into that account it doesn't come up in the regular
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spreadsheet goodness but still valid. So he had some commentary
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in his in his full note which is that the bottom there
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Adam Curry: yes I have it here and he says oops. Scroll past it
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hi fellas night Jackie Greene here want to make sure you guys
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actually got my donation. Well, I guess we did. Finally I sent
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it through PayPal on March 25. I don't care about the node right.
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John C Dvorak: The next part
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Adam Curry: of it I'm reading what do I that's just a note to
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trigger that. But you don't want me to read the whole thing. And
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John C Dvorak: it's just a second person with the note was
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that came with the original donation.
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Adam Curry: Okay, ITM m j m k more jingles more karma?
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John C Dvorak: Yeah. said
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Adam Curry: thanks for all you guys do and putting the stop in
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we'll probably talk about if we like it and then if you want to
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Adam Curry: All right. John will take us through the rest of the
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John C Dvorak: donation. Yeah. Matthew shock is at the top of
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John C Dvorak: good deal. Good deal. And last on the list is
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John C Dvorak: to really know what happened in Fort
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Houston, Texas. We have the local 251 International
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Guelph. I think he abused his children for this one. Now it's
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one channel only on sucks. I would have been better for his
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two channels. So you could
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John C Dvorak: you hear barely hear it on the left channel.
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Adam Curry: I'm gonna have to work on that. This is Fletcher
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sent this in? It's too long, but I did I didn't want to exclude
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this as a Gene Wilder ISO
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Unknown: and would you come on my podcast? Come on your watch.
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Adam Curry: And this is the one that I think has legs.
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John C Dvorak: That's some crazy stuff right there. Kinda like
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that one. Disappointing.
2:33:41
Adam Curry: Okay, what you got?
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John C Dvorak: Now much better, but I do have some stuff. Let's
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try. Thank you. Thank you Easter Bunny. Okay. And hop out. Hop on
2:33:55
out of here. Oh, come
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Adam Curry: on. Clearly. Clearly, this one wins.
2:34:00
Unknown: That's some crazy stuff right there.
2:34:02
Adam Curry: Clearly that wins.
2:34:04
John C Dvorak: All right. Thank you.
2:34:07
Adam Curry: If you get triggered you buckle Oh, I have I got to
2:34:09
tell you about this ozempic thing that I learned. I let me
2:34:14
put it this way. I learned a new term. Have you heard of lean
2:34:21
body mass? I think so. What do you think lean body mass is?
2:34:29
John C Dvorak: No lower fat content.
2:34:32
Adam Curry: Incorrect. So there's a big Fructus in the
2:34:38
ozempic world, you know, ozempic is this diabetes drug that all
2:34:46
of Hollywood start using because it really is great for weight
2:34:49
loss. Yeah, it also makes your face sad. Yes. ozempic face is
2:34:53
absolutely a thing.
2:34:55
John C Dvorak: I think what's her name though? Who keeps
2:34:58
talking about it? She used to be on IE the blonde kind of a
2:35:02
comics as he had a talk show. For some reason I'm losing her
2:35:07
name. I can't remember it. She used to be on E. She was the
2:35:10
host of a couple of award shows he keeps bringing up ozempic
2:35:14
jokes. Catherine Kindley. Now, wow, more famous than that. How
2:35:19
do I come up with Catherine Kinley? But I don't know. But
2:35:23
Chelsea Handler, Chelsea Handler's goes, face trolls,
2:35:27
trolls, TROLLS. Good trolls. Thank you trolls. But yeah,
2:35:30
she's got his Olympic face if you look at her. Well,
2:35:33
Adam Curry: so turns out that, and I have studies here and I
2:35:40
have science here. Science, I guess you got a lot of science
2:35:44
here that on ozempic 75% of the weight loss is lean body mass.
2:35:58
John C Dvorak: So good.
2:35:59
Adam Curry: Well, but this is this and this is
2:36:02
John C Dvorak: this is muscle, right? Yes.
2:36:06
Adam Curry: And if you look at the science, they literally say,
2:36:09
Well, you know, we had a body composition analysis of 88
2:36:13
volunteers with type two diabetes who used smog, smog,
2:36:17
Lou, Lou tide, which is the you know, the drugs name. These
2:36:22
participants lost an average of 12 and a half pounds of that
2:36:25
weight loss, there was a seven and a half pound reduction in
2:36:27
fat mass and a five pound reduction in lean mass. And
2:36:33
that's in scientific papers. They are lying to you that is
2:36:35
muscle. And let me tell you, when you let me hear me now
2:36:39
believe me later, when you lose muscle, certainly, if you're if
2:36:44
you're older, you can't just grow that back.
2:36:47
John C Dvorak: But yeah, you'd have to work out in the gym for
2:36:50
years. So this is and it wouldn't hurt to have some
2:36:53
testosterone you pick up Oh, red parent Planned Parenthood.
2:36:58
Adam Curry: But this is this is a horrible after years of
2:37:03
glorifying fat women, which I think is also an odd way body
2:37:08
dysphoria by the viewer. I mean, if you you can look at morbidly
2:37:13
obese women on Instagram. And they will have a million
2:37:18
followers and they will be having just standing there you
2:37:21
know, lifting one leg up, you know and wearing literally
2:37:25
literally wanted to have this important and then the comments
2:37:29
will be yes, Queen slay fire. Beautiful. So after years and
2:37:34
years of glorifying this now, we give you ozempic which removes
2:37:39
your muscle, you're gonna fall into a heap. This is this is
2:37:45
real M. And I just have to point out the obvious. You know, they
2:37:49
they took the 1970s hit. one hit wonder pilot. Oh, oh, it's
2:37:55
magic. And I believe Oh, it's Yeah. And they ozempic Yes. And
2:38:00
I believe that that is subliminally still working. It's
2:38:04
magic. It's magic. ozempic is magic.
2:38:08
John C Dvorak: Oh, very good.
2:38:10
Adam Curry: It's magic.
2:38:11
John C Dvorak: Very good. Very light, very
2:38:13
Adam Curry: good marketing. But people have to know that when
2:38:17
you read 50 to 75% of the weight loss is from lean body mass.
2:38:23
That's your muscle. That's not the stuff you want to lose.
2:38:26
Please be careful. I'm not a doctor. I can't even get John
2:38:29
testosterone.
2:38:31
John C Dvorak: So we're just uh, you were gonna You were just
2:38:36
picking them up from Rogen.
2:38:39
Adam Curry: We're just reading the science and I'm not liking
2:38:41
it. All right, prediction. I guess I got one thing, one thing
2:38:47
I'll leave you alone? No, I'm sorry. You go ahead. Go for it.
2:38:51
First of all, I
2:38:51
John C Dvorak: want you to see if you can hear the brainwashing
2:38:53
the propaganda. You know, the abortion pill. We don't talk
2:38:57
about it but no controversy one, when judges say one thing and
2:39:01
it'll resolve itself not to concern but always get a kick
2:39:05
out of these foreign correspondents. This is a clip
2:39:07
from Al Jazeera on the kind of the problem the you know, this
2:39:11
this, this one particular abortion pill. And I just want
2:39:16
to see if you can pick up on the propagandistic comment that's in
2:39:20
there. I don't know where they get this stuff but it's
2:39:22
AlJazeera so you know what they know
2:39:25
Unknown: woman's right to access abortion. This came after the
2:39:28
Supreme Court's decision to overturn a constitutional right
2:39:32
to abortion Friday's to court rulings mean the future of the
2:39:36
drug is uncertain. Many fear this will increase the already
2:39:40
existing challenges faced by women and some US states.
2:39:45
Adam Curry: Wait a minute. Wait, man, wait, I gotta I gotta
2:39:47
listen to it again. It's so short here. Let me hear it,
2:39:49
again.
2:39:49
Unknown: Women's rights to access abortion. This came after
2:39:53
the Supreme Court's decision to overturn a constitutional right.
2:39:57
Adam Curry: Oh, constitutional right to abortion. Yeah, that's
2:40:00
a subliminal thing right there. It's not true. It's not true.
2:40:04
It's bullcrap. Yes, it is.
2:40:06
John C Dvorak: There was never a constitutional right and what
2:40:08
they overturn was a privacy law. Anyway,
2:40:11
Adam Curry: let's let's see how ABC handled. This news
2:40:14
Unknown: breaking overnight and appeals court has partially
2:40:17
blocked a ruling from a Texas judge that would have restricted
2:40:20
access to a widely used abortion pill. The court is allowing the
2:40:24
FDA approval of MiFID pearlstone to remain in place for now. But
2:40:27
the three judge panel is allowing restrictions that were
2:40:30
lifted back in 2016. To be reinstated, that means that the
2:40:34
drug can only be dispensed for up to seven weeks of pregnancy
2:40:38
instead of 10 weeks and distribution by mail would be
2:40:41
paused, which could significantly impact the pills
2:40:44
availability. Many expect this issue to be appealed to the
2:40:48
Supreme Court. Some states have already been stockpiling the
2:40:51
drug. There was no response overnight from the Biden
2:40:53
administration.
2:40:55
Adam Curry: He said you didn't put in the
2:40:55
John C Dvorak: constitutional by the way and put down you had to
2:40:58
be an idiot to put that in there.
2:41:00
Adam Curry: We got a an update from one of our trolls saying
2:41:04
there is no evidence that lean body mass does not include bone
2:41:08
or brain tissue.
2:41:11
John C Dvorak: Yeah,
2:41:13
Adam Curry: why not? It's a very good point. I think we need to
2:41:18
do this quick. Canadia Canada Navia updates since we have been
2:41:22
trying to follow the story.
2:41:24
Unknown: The Prime Minister addressing the fact that there's
2:41:26
been a mass resignation from the Pierre Elliot Trudeau
2:41:30
Foundation, the President and CEO and the board of directors
2:41:34
the volunteer board of directors resigned during the political
2:41:37
fallout from a $200,000 donation from a businessman with links to
2:41:41
the Chinese government. A brief statement says that the
2:41:45
politicization of the foundation made it impossible to continue
2:41:49
with the status quo. The resignations prompted
2:41:52
conservative leader Pierre Polly have to call for an
2:41:54
investigation into the foundation and that comes well
2:41:58
at the same time as the Prime Minister's top staffers Chief of
2:42:01
Staff. Katie Telford is set to testify before a committee
2:42:05
that's investigating allegations of elections interference, that
2:42:08
testimony will happen this Friday.
2:42:12
Adam Curry: So I still am not sure what happens to here but it
2:42:15
doesn't sound good for Trudeau. Yeah, but this has happened
2:42:18
before with him, especially with this with his mom and this
2:42:21
organization got
2:42:22
John C Dvorak: all kinds of back, you know, dirt slippery,
2:42:25
Adam Curry: slippery,
2:42:26
John C Dvorak: slippery, very, very
2:42:27
Adam Curry: slippery. Very funny. little clip here from
2:42:32
John Kirby, the rear admiral about the leaked documents that
2:42:38
have leaked documents that have been such an embarrassment for
2:42:44
the United States because guess what, we're spying on everybody.
2:42:47
Hey,
2:42:48
Unknown: again, without confirming the validity of the
2:42:50
documents. This is information that has no business in the
2:42:53
public domain. It has no business if you don't mind me
2:42:56
saying on the pages of front pages of newspapers are on top
2:43:03
is not intended for public consumption and should not be
2:43:07
out
2:43:07
Adam Curry: there. You should not be publishing edge. Too
2:43:10
late. Not saying well,
2:43:12
John C Dvorak: does he know how the system works? Does he have
2:43:14
any idea how the system works?
2:43:16
Adam Curry: Well, he's actually trying to play the system. He's
2:43:17
trying to tell them that you can't own publish it. That's
2:43:20
right. It's too late. Here is but they got him. They got him
2:43:24
but don't have them but they know who it is. They smoked him
2:43:26
out. They don't have them yet, but they know it's him. They got
2:43:29
him
2:43:29
Unknown: this morning a bombshell report bombshell.
2:43:33
Adam Curry: bombshell. bombshell somewhere with my bombshell,
2:43:39
Unknown: revealing details about the leak of what appears to be
2:43:42
highly classified US military documents. According to The
2:43:45
Washington Post, the alleged leaker is in his 20s and worked
2:43:49
on a military base. The Post reports he shared several
2:43:52
documents a week beginning late last year with a group of about
2:43:56
two dozen people on Discord an online chat room popular with
2:44:00
gamers.
2:44:01
I don't think that there was a goal nor some sort of
2:44:04
accomplishment that he was looking for in sharing these
2:44:06
documents. A
2:44:07
member of the chat room says the man called America's
2:44:10
intelligence community
2:44:12
Adam Curry: before you know it was gonna be the man was a
2:44:15
member of an online chat room known as a troll room from a
2:44:19
podcast. You watch we're not far from not
2:44:23
Unknown: porn sharing these documents.
2:44:25
A member of the chat room says the man called America's
2:44:28
intelligence community a sinister force that sought to
2:44:31
suppress its citizens and keep them in the dark. The Washington
2:44:34
Post says it spoke to a friend of the alleged leaker agreeing
2:44:38
not to name or show the young man who said this about his
2:44:42
friend.
2:44:43
You disagreed with several occasions such as Waco and Ruby
2:44:45
Ridge and thought that the government is overreaching in
2:44:49
several aspects. The report did
2:44:51
not name the alleged leaker and ABC News has not verified the
2:44:54
report. In his statement, Discord said it's cooperating
2:44:57
with law enforcement as the Justice Department opens
2:45:00
Criminal Investigation. Meanwhile, the Biden
2:45:02
administration is trying to contain fallout from the leak,
2:45:05
which included dozens of apparently classified Pentagon
2:45:08
documents exposing top secret intelligence. The files suggest
2:45:12
potential problems for Ukraine, including a dire shortage of air
2:45:16
defense missiles, the head of Ukrainian military intelligence
2:45:20
as he spoke with his US counterparts about the leak. He
2:45:24
blames Russia for the leak. But the friend of the alleged leaker
2:45:27
disputes that
2:45:28
he is not a Russian operative. He's not a Ukrainian operative.
2:45:31
I'll go as far to say he's not even on the east side of the
2:45:34
world. He was he was a young charismatic man who loves nature
2:45:39
God, who loved shooting guns and racing cars.
2:45:43
Adam Curry: Ya know, the Christian? Probably Hold on It's
2:45:46
homemakers troublemakers.
2:45:48
John C Dvorak: It's definitely a troublemaker, but Okay, first of
2:45:51
all, Ruby Ridge. I mean, we brought it up on the show before
2:45:56
Yeah. That's old. So this guy is not a young man necessarily, in
2:46:02
this call everyone a young man, like some people
2:46:04
Adam Curry: like in his early 20s. Yeah.
2:46:07
John C Dvorak: So Something's fishy about that. Yeah, the
2:46:10
thing is, if this guy knows who it is, well, that's dumb. Right?
2:46:16
That's the last thing I'd say. Because he's gonna have a couple
2:46:19
of goons come over there, put in thumb screws on him. Take him to
2:46:23
the you know, headquartered HQ, and beat the shit out of him
2:46:27
until he gives up the guy's name. Yeah. That's what you'd
2:46:31
think could happen. I missing something I'd be worried about.
2:46:34
If I was that guy going I know who it is. And he's a nice guy
2:46:38
likes to shoot guns. No, he's just shut up about it. Okay, too
2:46:42
late. So that so we're gonna find out who this is. It could
2:46:45
be bullcrap. It could be some guy in some dumb chat room in
2:46:49
discord playing some video games. Yeah, I'm the guy. So you
2:46:54
don't know. Well, Jesus whole thing is
2:46:56
Adam Curry: I think the intelligence community has
2:46:58
probably had their eye on Discord for a while anyway.
2:47:01
John C Dvorak: I'm sure they have and discord is probably Oh,
2:47:04
there's got to have two guys in there have to be spooks. crazy
2:47:08
not to be
2:47:09
Adam Curry: we were talking earlier about Mo and me one of
2:47:11
the things that that mo predicted start to come true
2:47:15
when I was in Jamaica was that it was going to be the drill
2:47:18
rap. That would be the impetus for for cracking down for
2:47:24
bringing us the 2024 crime bill, by Joe Biden, of course in in
2:47:31
following of the 1994 crime bill. And the obvious result
2:47:36
would be that of course no one wants to work in law enforcement
2:47:39
anymore. Rich people will have private security forces pile of
2:47:43
private police forces protecting their their gated communities
2:47:47
and their neighborhoods and the poor people they'll get drones
2:47:51
and cameras and and here we go.
2:47:54
Unknown: Here we go this morning. What looks like a sci
2:47:57
fi film it will soon be reality on the streets of New York, the
2:48:01
NYPD and Mayor welcoming Digi dog and K five the city's new
2:48:06
crime fighting robots. I've never seen something like that
2:48:09
in real life. The robot dogs were dismissed by the previous
2:48:12
administration due to financial cutbacks and fears of aggressive
2:48:15
policing.
2:48:16
I am going to use technology with transparency to keep this
2:48:20
city safe. And others just don't we're unwilling to do that and I
2:48:24
am to allay
2:48:25
fears the public has been assured the robots won't be used
2:48:28
for routine patrol.
2:48:30
This is a life saving device is going to be used for hostage
2:48:32
situations, bomb threats, counterterrorism situations.
2:48:38
The department also plans to add this AR two d two looking robot
2:48:41
named K five equipped with cameras and emergency help
2:48:45
buttons and the star Chase system. Deploy from a gun
2:48:49
looking device it sticks to vehicles and uses GPS to track
2:48:53
fleeing cars. New York isn't the only city interested in robots
2:48:57
to fight crime to San Francisco may revisit the idea after it
2:49:01
was put on hold last year. The proposal was to use lethally
2:49:04
armed robots when dealing with violence suspects, supporters
2:49:08
say they're safer than humans. But the public still has
2:49:11
concerns about control and about artificial intelligence getting
2:49:14
too powerful. And then there's this Oh, look at the New York
2:49:21
City streets. As for the price tag, the NYPD bought those two
2:49:25
robot dogs for $750,000.
2:49:29
Adam Curry: I love it. I love the darn member.
2:49:32
John C Dvorak: You remember during COVID and the child in
2:49:35
China they got these really aggressive dogs telling people
2:49:38
to get off the street ever the videos of that? Yeah, get off
2:49:41
the straight dog with a micro with a megaphone on it. Well,
2:49:44
here
2:49:45
Adam Curry: it is. It's in New York City and and the mayor's
2:49:48
gonna use it. It makes sense. Well, there's more going on in
2:49:52
New York because we have another position filled
2:49:54
Unknown: New York City has hired its first rat czar she promises
2:49:58
to address the spike in the road in population. Kathleen karate
2:50:01
was chosen from 900 applicants nationwide to city asking for
2:50:05
someone with determination and quote Killer Instinct previously
2:50:10
spearheaded an effort to fight rats in city schools. She said
2:50:13
rats are tough, but New Yorkers are tougher. She will be paid
2:50:16
$155,000 a year. A rat.
2:50:21
John C Dvorak: What's she supposed to do? Go out and kill
2:50:23
rats herself?
2:50:24
Adam Curry: Yeah, well, she's a rat czar.
2:50:27
John C Dvorak: What is she gonna do?
2:50:28
Adam Curry: I don't know. I don't know. I don't know, man.
2:50:31
To rat czar.
2:50:33
John C Dvorak: I love rat lab, a clip from a TV show about New
2:50:37
York. Okay. Which will I'm like be my last clip. Okay. This is
2:50:42
from. This is from one of the FBI shows. And by the way, the
2:50:48
FBI. Just this last, this last round of FBI shows FBI
2:50:55
International. The FBI is now in London. And they're
2:51:00
investigating some attack a Muslim attack on a woman who
2:51:04
didn't have a hijab on in some part of the job. A job. She
2:51:12
wasn't wearing the right veil in London in some Arab part of town
2:51:17
and she got an acid thrown on her and so no, because the
2:51:21
London or London Police don't know what they're doing. So we
2:51:24
had to bring our FBI was called in to London to London to solve
2:51:31
this priority, love this show. So that's FBI International. So
2:51:36
they have three of these shows as FBI FBI Most Wanted, which is
2:51:39
basically the same as this.
2:51:41
Adam Curry: This is some kind of brainwashing How does FBI
2:51:44
international even exist? They are the Federal Bureau of
2:51:48
Investigation, not the International Bureau of
2:51:51
Investigation.
2:51:53
John C Dvorak: You think they're Interpol? Yeah. I have no idea
2:51:56
why they wouldn't do why nobody calls them out on this is
2:51:58
bullcrap. Alright. So this is from FBI most wanted and Dylan
2:52:06
McDermott is the guy then in this show, and he's just a mean,
2:52:09
FBI guy. So he's yelling at people. So he I'm just gonna set
2:52:13
it up. But here's what you're going to hear. You're going to
2:52:15
hear the moment where the where I leave off, which is we have
2:52:19
some maniac killing Asians in central a central part all
2:52:23
throughout the city. And two guys are walking along and they
2:52:26
see this guy beating the crap out of some poor Asian guy. And
2:52:32
he's Asian too. They're all they everyone's Asian, except for the
2:52:36
Adam Curry: the other player, Chinese, Vietnamese, Asian,
2:52:39
John C Dvorak: I think was Vietnamese. Okay. beaten up
2:52:42
another Vietnamese. And so these two guys are there and they say,
2:52:45
Hey, what are you doing? And the guy the Asian guy beaten up the
2:52:50
other guy pulls out a gun and takes a couple of shots at these
2:52:53
two guys. One of the guys great he happens to have a gun he
2:52:56
pulls it out and shoots out the guy and the guy runs off of what
2:53:01
kind of want to use a gun for
2:53:03
Adam Curry: FBI shoots and misses
2:53:04
John C Dvorak: not our childcare. Let's start over
2:53:06
since you didn't hear right what I said. Vietnamese guy beaten
2:53:09
another Vietnamese. Two bystanders are walking through
2:53:13
Central Park and they catch the guy and they yell Hey, hey, stop
2:53:17
it. The guy pulls a gun on him and takes a couple of shots that
2:53:20
one of the two bystanders grabs his gun shoots at this Asian guy
2:53:26
stopped him from shooting it damn probably saves both their
2:53:28
lives in the process. Accidentally wings some woman
2:53:33
standing there who is I guess just standing there for no good
2:53:36
reason. But you know doesn't kill it. Just Windsor. And
2:53:38
that's that's that. So Dylan McDermott, the FBI like 10
2:53:42
minutes later, 20 minutes later come in. And then they call this
2:53:47
guy aside who shot at the bad guy and make his life miserable.
2:53:52
And here we go.
2:53:53
Unknown: You think this is the same guy who shot up the temple
2:53:56
earlier today? looking that way in the timeline matches. It's
2:53:58
about a half hour from Mount Vernon to the city.
2:54:01
Where can we find this visual? Only? The guy you traced. You
2:54:05
see his face? No, like I told the cops It all happened so
2:54:08
fast. We were running. Plus he had a mask on was it clear
2:54:11
plastic? Yeah, kinda. What am I getting my gun back? How about
2:54:16
never I have a permit well then you should know Central Park is
2:54:20
a no carry zone. They passed the law this summer. Yeah, and crap
2:54:23
like this happens all the time because people stand by and do
2:54:25
nothing. I saved a lot of lives today to live to the Juilliard
2:54:29
girl. The religious Mr. left lung you know aged in hate
2:54:33
crimes have quadrupled this last year. You guys need to do your
2:54:36
jobs. We all know when it gets harder when it hits like you're
2:54:39
trying to play cops and robbers that's the thanks again.
2:54:47
John C Dvorak: So you roughed him up? The FBI guy roughs up
2:54:51
this poor dude is great. This is television. Just a brainwashing
2:54:56
we're stuck with Hollywood.
2:54:59
Adam Curry: Well Wow, well, it's pre bunking, man, it's pre
2:55:03
bunking. So good. I am fine. Thank you so much for being with
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steamy level thing. Obama and Larissa and Claire had a theme
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looked into the Obama the mack daddy put a spell on Obama to
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mack daddy you're just my style and my cash. Or you look like
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just my man woman and half whatever looks to look like
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Obama had a steaming lover in the back of a limo and then at
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the Holiday Inn. They had a scene in London All right my
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John C Dvorak: What is this nostril you keep talking about
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Adam Curry: it's like Twitter on meth it's a set of technologies
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intelligent nostril is is like competitor like gab No,
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