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John C Dvorak: Where's Clooney?
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Unknown: Adam curry Jhansi
Devorah
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on April 23 2023 This is your
award winning combination media
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assassination episode 1549
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This is no agenda
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counting 15 minutes in the city
and broadcasting live from the
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heart number Texas Hill Country
here in the morning everybody
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I'm Adam curry
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John C Dvorak: and from Northern
Silicon Valley where if you step
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in a driveway we shoot you I'm
Jesse Devorah
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Unknown: it's called an
accidental shooting
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John C Dvorak: there's all these
Somebody just sent a note in
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saying you know these shootings
all of a sudden out of the blue
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a ball falls in the yard a guy
shoots him somebody goes into
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the door knocks shot yeah and
there's all these stories are
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all over the country it's almost
like it's a no okay,
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Adam Curry: okay, well, we're
gonna talk about something else
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but now you've led me right to
it I have
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John C Dvorak: but before I say
that's the OP I'm going to ask
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the big question about this up
okay. If this all this is going
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on, where's all the dead does
the dead Seventh Day Adventists
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and these and these religious
guys who come to
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Unknown: doors left and right
where are they? They're killing
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the wrong age. Jehovah
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John C Dvorak: Witnesses I want
to know what and when the house.
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Unknown: Kinsley White was shot
in the face while playing by
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Adam Curry: this. This is deep
by the way, and there's a reason
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for this. You'll hear this
you'll hear what's going on at
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home
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Unknown: just outside of
Charlotte. Her father was
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seriously wounded. Inside
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Adam Curry: this kid is dynamite
made for televisions. My daddy
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in the
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Unknown: back. Witnesses say a
neighbor began shooting. A
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basketball rolled onto his yard
Tuesday. Kinsley had a bullet
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fragment removed from her cheek.
Her father, who reportedly tried
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to shoot back remains
hospitalized and will yell for
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late today, the alleged shooter
24 year old Robert Singletary
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turned himself into authorities
in Florida, as the number of
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victims of shootings caused by
seemingly innocent mistakes
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mounts so does the fury nearly
1000 miles away, these mothers
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protested gun violence on the
Kansas Missouri State Line. One
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week after 16 year old Ralph
Jarold was shot after ringing
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the wrong doorbell.
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You have mental health issues
everywhere. But when you pair
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those with absolute chaos, in
terms of gun
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legislation, this is what you
get. Gun violence is a public
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health epidemic.
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Johns Hopkins researcher
Cassandra Fauci says studies
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have repeatedly shown that
people are less safe when guns
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are present. What is driving
this increase in shootings,
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we have seen record increases in
gun purchasing. We're also
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seeing increases in fear based
marketing of firearms, as well
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as stoking fears of political
violence, social violence,
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racially motivated violence.
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The states with the weakest gun
laws have high gun death rates
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three times as high as states
with the strongest restrictions.
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No place you can run from any of
this.
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Adam Curry: I dispute that
statistic that has never been
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the statistic. It's never been
this statistic. Could you turn
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your speakers down just a little
bit for me, please. So this is
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obviously a massive, massive
psychological push to somehow
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magically create some
legislation that will ban guns
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in America. That's not how it
works. Of course, it was
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everywhere. That was ABC. Here's
Bill Maher on HBO.
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Unknown: I've always known in
America that you know, there's
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certain things that if you did
you get shot, there'd be a
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likely chance of getting shot.
This week we found out we're
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going to add to that list
innocent mistakes, innocent
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mistakes, and I love this it
really goes across racial lines.
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Everybody in America shooting
everybody else for Ralph Yarl a
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young black man who was shot for
ringing the wrong doorbell
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Adam Curry: I love I love what
he's saying now. He didn't get
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shot because he rang the wrong
doorbell. The guy inside was was
4:04
crazy. That's why he got shot
not because this is very very
4:08
evil the way he's positioning
this. You rang the wrong
4:12
doorbell you get shot.
4:14
Unknown: In upstate New York,
Kevin Monahan shot Kailyn Gillis
4:18
for pulling in the wrong
driveway.
4:20
You pulled in the wrong driveway
Be very afraid.
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And Elgin, Texas Pedro Rodriguez
shot two cheerleaders for
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getting in the wrong car
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Adam Curry: has nothing to do
with the status of the shooter.
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It's all about you did something
wrong.
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Unknown: And then a black man
Robert Singletary shot a six
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year old and her father when
their ball went in his yard. And
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I all what the all these things
have in common. The shooters
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themselves were in no danger.
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Adam Curry: So what do we do
over at CBS? Well, we've got to
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bring in the hero.
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Unknown: We're gonna continue
our conversation with the former
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first Lady her name, of course,
is Michelle Obama, I have to say
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something about the book because
it's called the light we carry
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overcoming and uncertain times.
I really think that these are
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uncertain times. And I look at
the things in the news recently,
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to three recent shootings, a
terrible shooting in Kansas City
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with a 16 year old thank God he
survived if a young woman in New
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York was shot turning in the
driveway, just normal things. Do
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you think that we can ever
figure out a way to reconcile
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gun violence in this country?
Because it does keep me up?
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I hope and pray that that at
some point enough becomes
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enough. One point. We wondered
that throughout our entire
5:40
presidency.
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Adam Curry: Who's this we
business? We your debt. We
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wonder about this throughout our
entire presidency, our
5:53
John C Dvorak: good try
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Unknown: becomes enough. Was
there a point? You know, we
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wondered that throughout our
entire presidency, thinking that
6:02
this time,
6:03
yeah, Barack Obama said you
Newtown was one of the worst
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days of his presidency. Yeah, we
still didn't get that mess. But
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we
6:10
are the only developed country
on the planet where its citizens
6:14
can have unfettered access to
firearms.
6:18
I'd have to call that factcheck.
False but okay,
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John C Dvorak: that's bull crap.
Yeah.
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Unknown: That is not a good
thing. And more of us have to
6:28
feel strongly about it, and
particularly our young people.
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This is where democracy comes
in. Voting this all this stuff
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is decided in the in the ballot
box.
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Adam Curry: No, no, the only way
to decide this removal of guns,
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which is clearly what is being
called for here is by creating a
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new amendment to the
Constitution to override the
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Second Amendment. And it's not
the ballot box. It's not
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John C Dvorak: you can repeal
the Second Amendment don't have
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to override it.
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Adam Curry: Right. You could
repeal it, you could repeal it,
7:03
but wouldn't actually be an
amendment that would repeal the
7:05
Second Amendment?
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John C Dvorak: I think so. I
don't know if that's called an
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amendment or not.
7:10
Adam Curry: What about the 21st
amendment? Wasn't that an a
7:13
repeal of the or is it the which
one repealed Prohibition? Well,
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no. It was also,
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John C Dvorak: I think it is the
21st. Okay, yeah, probably, it
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would have to be cold, right.
But it's
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Adam Curry: not just like, oh,
go vote, go vote Democrat, and
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your guns will be taken away.
But that is that is what she's
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going for. And as you know, you
think I'm crazy. You think I'm
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nuts? I believe the Democrats
are going to run Michelle Obama.
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And thank God, the question came
up, just listen,
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Unknown: I emcee this event at
Lincoln Center Jazz at Lincoln
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Center for Witten, Marcel, as in
just mentioning your name that
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you are going to be on Pete why
people have such expectations
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and hopes that we'll see we'll
see I'm not even going to ask
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you that.
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Adam Curry: Okay, question one.
Why will you not even ask if
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she's going to run Gail is Are
you not a journalist? Have you
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been told not to ask this
question?
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John C Dvorak: You just said it.
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Adam Curry: Have you been asked
not to ask this question or told
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not to ask this question. That's
very weird.
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Unknown: People have such
expectations and hopes that
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we'll see we'll see. I'm not
even gonna ask you that. But do
8:17
you ever wonder or do you ever
think
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John C Dvorak: it's quite
likely. Michelle Obama is not of
8:26
the sort that goes in there and
allows free we'll she probably
8:30
is quite possible that she
specifically said I'm not doing
8:34
this interview. If you asked me
this question.
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Adam Curry: I agree. I think
that's exactly what happened.
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But then words matter. The truth
wants to come out. Listen to
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what Michelle Obama says.
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Unknown: But do you ever wonder
or do you ever think when will
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politic politics leave you
because you said I'm not a
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political person. Politics isn't
what isn't something I wanted?
8:52
That people still hope and what
you did do something?
8:57
Yeah, it
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Adam Curry: this first of all,
you knew the question that
9:03
wasn't a question was going to
come and listen to her answer.
9:09
Yeah. Why is Gail laughing? Why
is Gail laughing about this
9:14
question?
9:15
John C Dvorak: Well, because
Gail knew that skirted it and
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did a good job. You should
congratulate her and Gail knows
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Unknown: that she's running
listen.
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Yeah. I am authentic. If I were
going to engage in politics, I
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would let people know.
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Adam Curry: She says if I
weren't going to engage them,
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but you have to listen
carefully.
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John C Dvorak: Go back and play
that again. Because it says if
9:38
I'm authentic, she says
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Adam Curry: I'm authentic. And
if I weren't not work, and if I
9:43
weren't going to engage in
politics, I would let people
9:47
know.
9:47
Unknown: I am authentic. If I
were going to engage in
9:50
John C Dvorak: Navy were i here
weren't I don't here weren't i
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here were
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Unknown: I am authentic if I
were going to engage in
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politics.
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Adam Curry: No, I here weren't
but okay. We can dispute that
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for until the cows come home.
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Unknown: I am authentic. If I
were going to engage in
10:05
politics, I would let people
know. But I am a public figure,
10:09
I still care about these issues,
I will always find ways to use
10:13
my platform to speak out. That's
why I'm focusing on getting
10:18
young people to vote. Because
none of it matters. It doesn't
10:21
matter who's in the Oval Office
of Congress, they can work with
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not managing our state houses
and on and on. I could go on and
10:30
on about
10:30
it. I know. And I'm not even
pushing for you running. That
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ship has sailed. I get it. Yeah.
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Adam Curry: Okay. So I will just
hold on to my prediction. You
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totally disagree. That's fine. I
think they're gonna run her.
10:43
Thank you. And I believe that
this is why the Obama CIA is
10:48
getting rid of Joe because man,
did they really do a number with
10:54
this mic morale thing? That's
insane. Yeah, I've
11:00
John C Dvorak: been thinking
about the mic morale thing more
11:02
after writing it up in the
newsletter. Yeah. I want to
11:06
throw a little while before we I
don't want to leave this topic
11:12
cuz they got some Nora clips.
Okay. Where I thought was kind
11:15
of interesting. And this is
Dora. They have to do their
11:18
thing. And CBS they're talking
about all these random
11:20
shootings. I want to play a few
of these. Okay, I'm playing Nora
11:24
on the random killings.
11:25
Unknown: We learned today of yet
another case of young people
11:28
being shot up shot after a
mistake. This time a group of
11:31
cheerleaders mistook a car for
their own got into it, and then
11:34
they were fired at and a CBS has
Alenka Hana reports it comes
11:37
after a New York man made his
first court appearance for
11:40
allegedly shooting and killing a
young woman who drove into his
11:44
driveway.
11:47
Like allegedly killing a young
woman who drove into his
11:50
driveway.
11:52
John C Dvorak: Here's Nora on
the on the Alabama shooters.
11:56
Unknown: The 16 and 17 year old
brothers will be charged as
12:00
adults for young people were
killed and more than 30 others
12:04
wounded for victims are still in
critical condition
12:09
John C Dvorak: that she did. She
tells you about the guy who shot
12:11
the cheerleaders about the
random shootings here and there.
12:14
Yeah, the black guys who shoot
shot up that place in Alabama.
12:18
But now listen to this clip. Why
does she only use white shooter
12:24
in this last clip?
12:27
Unknown: He turned out to
another story about gun
12:29
violence. But at least there's
some good news today about the
12:32
black teenager who was shot
after he mistakenly went to the
12:35
wrong address to pick up his
brother's 16 year old Ralph Yarl
12:39
is on the road to recover and he
is recovery I should say and he
12:42
is sitting up on his own.
Meanwhile, the 84 year old white
12:46
man charged with first degree
assault and armed criminal
12:49
action made his first court
appearance this afternoon.
12:53
John C Dvorak: Yep. Now we are
Latinos. We had everything in
12:57
between but there's only one
white guy. And she makes a point
13:00
of saying that she's
13:01
Adam Curry: racist. I'll be
totally racist. Yeah, that's
13:04
that's how it goes. Welcome to
racist America. We've always
13:07
been racist. It's just now it's
our turn. Whitey. We're that
13:14
we're the bottom of the of the
caste system. Jolly, old
13:17
straight white dudes
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John C Dvorak: makes it worse.
Well,
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Adam Curry: I guess now, since
it is in the news, I can talk
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about this, about the Manifesto
of the Nashville shooter. When I
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was in Nashville, a member, a
producer of law enforcement
13:39
talked to me and he said,
there's a reason why this
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manifesto was not coming out.
And I don't want you to talk
13:45
about it. Because it's quiet and
no one's talking about it. And
13:48
it's better that way. And so I
didn't, but now it's out
13:52
everywhere. So I'm going to tell
you that this completely aligns
13:56
with with what I was told. This
is now coming from Nashville
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Police Chief John Drake. It was
not a manifesto. It was 20
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journals, complete plans,
operational manuals on how to
14:13
kill children how to kill
Christian children. This is what
14:18
I heard was. It's like the
anarchist bible of shooting
14:23
Christian children and that's
why they were that's why they've
14:25
been keeping it quiet. Okay, I
14:27
John C Dvorak: have a different
story. Okay. I had a long
14:31
conversation with a Nashville
policeman recently. And he told
14:36
me about the journals. And you
exactly what you said
14:42
Adam Curry: the Anarchist
Cookbook. I'm sorry, I said it
14:43
wrong. The Anarchist Cookbook.
Yes.
14:45
John C Dvorak: There was a bunch
of journals with detailed crap
14:48
about you know how many you
know, grains of gunpowder shall
14:53
be in each bowl and all the rest
now. He said in addition to
14:57
that, which he never got to look
at, there was a Separate
15:00
manifesto. Oh, okay. I didn't
hear that, that nobody had that
15:04
he didn't get to see and nobody
that he knows has seen it. But
15:08
he did say a couple of things
about the shootings, which was
15:11
the guy was super anti
Christian, or the guy, the girl,
15:14
whatever they were Oh, was super
anti Christian, and which has
15:20
been kept out of the news by the
media. And then the worst part
15:25
was these, these kids in
particular were mutilated.
15:29
Adam Curry: Oh, I didn't hear
about that. Oh, goodness. Yeah.
15:34
Okay. It's interesting that we
both heard from law enforcement,
15:38
and we both did not talk about
it.
15:42
John C Dvorak: That's because we
weren't told not to talk about
15:45
it.
15:45
Adam Curry: And we're pretty
good, like, pretty good. But now
15:47
the question now that this is
out, now, this is being
15:50
publicized. I mean, we do live
in a country with freedom of
15:54
press. What's the press going to
do? Are they going to sue to get
15:59
it and then print it and put it
everywhere? What is what is what
16:04
is appropriate in this case?
16:08
John C Dvorak: It's appropriate
to print it or release it on the
16:13
internet. I don't think it needs
to be printed per se.
16:15
Adam Curry: You know what I
mean? But so, but this also
16:18
serves as a guide, you know,
that's the fear. Well,
16:21
John C Dvorak: we don't know
what's in the manifesto. From
16:22
what I can tell why what I was
told is,
16:25
Adam Curry: it's like a guy.
It's a how to the anarchist.
16:29
John C Dvorak: Bible I was told
that that's the journalists is
16:31
not the manifesto.
16:33
Adam Curry: Okay. All right.
Anyway, it's not good. So that
16:39
they don't want anyone to know
16:40
John C Dvorak: about that. Show
a bunch of screwballs out there
16:44
now. So
16:44
Adam Curry: what do you get
instead you get you rang, rang
16:47
the wrong doorbell. You know,
you did this. You did that? And
16:49
yeah, people are crazy.
Absolutely. People are crazy.
16:54
Right now. We just went through
a three year make people crazy
16:58
situation in the world. It's not
just here. Yeah, we do
17:02
John C Dvorak: have this
doorbell thing. You know, all of
17:04
a sudden out of the blue after
years and years of kinds of
17:08
school shootings and other
things that have gotten nowhere
17:10
in terms of getting gun
registered gun legislation
17:13
through substance certain
states, right. Now we have a
17:15
coincidental pile of the same
basic, the same basic template,
17:21
right, somebody actually goes
into somebody's yard, somebody
17:24
throws a basketball in the yard.
The ball bounces in the guy's
17:28
yard, and he shoots him
17:29
Adam Curry: when we really don't
have we really don't have is the
17:31
truth. I mean, this could just
be the way they're positioning
17:34
these shootings. That could be
history, we have no idea but
17:37
they are bundling it together
and making the story out of it
17:40
when Bill Maher does that bid
that he did. That's because he's
17:44
told to do that his writers do
that. He's dumb as far as I'm
17:48
concerned. He's like, Oh, okay,
I'll just go along with the memo
17:52
and
17:52
John C Dvorak: make a joke about
median. You think a comedian
17:55
with with a sense of things
would notice the kind of
17:59
screwball coincidences, you
know, wrong car wrong driveway,
18:04
wrong doorbell wrong this wrong
that, you know, again, like you
18:08
said earlier, blaming it on the
poor, hapless person that does
18:11
the wrong thing, and then get
shots weird, is very weird, does
18:15
not have all of it. And this is
just all new that we did a year
18:19
ago, we didn't have people
walking into the wrong, you
18:22
know, getting shot left and
right for doing for getting in
18:24
the wrong car going in the wrong
driveway. It was all school
18:28
shootings. But now it's this
right. It has to be in up.
18:33
Adam Curry: Well, the reporting
of these shootings certainly is
18:35
and I have real problem with the
states with strict gun laws have
18:41
less shootings three times less
No, well actually didn't say
18:44
shootings, they said killings.
And if you look at the
18:48
statistics, it's very possible
that a lot of red states have
18:52
suicides. Now there's always
that that they've nailed half of
18:56
the all the gun deaths in the
United States.
18:59
John C Dvorak: Yeah, right. They
never Right, exactly that they
19:02
should be pointed out, they
should always, always break out
19:06
the suicides. They never do it.
19:07
Unknown: They're not going to
point that out. No way. No way.
19:11
No way.
19:13
John C Dvorak: No. All right.
Well, after that Happy New Year.
19:15
I
19:16
Adam Curry: know I'm bummed that
we had to start with that. In
19:18
other news, celebrities are
losing their minds that their
19:21
checkmarks are disappearing.
19:23
John C Dvorak: I lost mine.
19:25
Adam Curry: Did you see like
people like it's almost like
19:27
when Oh, if Trump wins, I'm
leaving the country. Jason
19:32
Alexander. I'm never going to be
on this app again. When you lost
19:35
my mic check mark Brett bet
MEDLARS like now anyone could
19:38
just pretend to be me. Oh, wow.
Wow, who the heck wants to be
19:43
you? That's their big fear. Oh,
now I'm no longer official. I'm
19:48
not authentic. I think I think
Twitter started give some of
19:52
them their check marks back.
Which I think is even funnier,
19:55
because they're like, oh, okay,
I have my checkbook. Okay. I
19:58
didn't pay for it to I'm
promising it didn't pay for it.
20:00
I bet you they did. Are you
going to pay for your church to
20:05
pay for your checkmark?
20:06
John C Dvorak: Who cares about
the checkmark? You never cared?
20:10
No, of course. Well, you did.
But you never did. Really? Oh,
20:13
of course not.
20:14
Adam Curry: No, it was funny. It
was just someone hated me so
20:16
much within Twitter that when
they were handing them out left
20:18
and right, I never got one at
people where
20:21
John C Dvorak: you should and
you're of all the people I know
20:23
that got Steve Horowitz same way
as the way he didn't get one.
20:28
But whatever. We're talking
about that but you're hailstorm.
20:33
Adam Curry: Oh, man. So that was
after the show on Thursday. And
20:37
Tina came into the odd there's a
batten down the hatches, we got
20:41
a storm coming and it was golf
ball sized hail. We had water
20:46
coming into the house through
underneath outside doors and it
20:51
was raining sideways. Then the
hail hit then the hail hit. And
20:55
we had a micro cell cross right
over our house. Took a tree out
21:00
a huge huckberry tree. Just
ripped it right out. It took it
21:05
out of the ground out of the
ground. I'll send you a picture
21:08
of it to put it in the
newsletter lifted right out of
21:11
hell yes. ripped it right out of
the ground as a tree that was
21:15
you know, was there and you
know, not just a tree in a tree
21:19
line as a tree in like our
landscape. You know, it was it
21:22
was been there for a long time,
obviously. Yeah, but a tree that
21:26
we liked. tonight. Oh, yeah. I
felt really sad. I walked out
21:30
Monday, Friday morning to the
walk the dog went Oh, wow. He
21:34
said the tree just ripped out.
And I felt Yeah, I felt sad is
21:37
very, very odd. I had a very,
very earthy moment. Which was
21:41
appropriate because it was Earth
Day. Oh, man Earth Day. Oh, my
21:47
goodness, this is everybody took
advantage of Earth Day to just
21:51
bring on the climate change. Oh,
boy. Oh, boy. I have a couple of
21:56
clips I want to share. First,
the President of the United
22:03
Nations, Antonio Guterres. And
he's right back to what it's
22:08
really all about. They're not
even shy about it. Now.
22:11
Unknown: We must accelerate
climate justice by reforming the
22:13
international financial system.
22:15
Adam Curry: Now, what we must we
must fix climate justice by
22:23
reforming the international
financial system. Huh? How does
22:27
that work? Yeah, that's what I'm
asking you
22:29
Unknown: to accelerate climate
justice by reforming the
22:31
international financial system.
As major shareholders of the
22:35
multilateral
22:36
guy, banks, I listened to what
he's saying was listened to what
22:39
he's saying. I want
22:40
you to push the measure
shareholders of the multilateral
22:42
development bank's, I urge you
to push them to coordinate their
22:46
operations better, and overall,
their business models and
22:49
approaches to risk in order to
turbocharge climate action and
22:53
sustainable development. We
22:54
Adam Curry: need to turbocharge
climate action by changing and
22:57
he's talking about the World
Bank. Of course, we have a new
22:59
president there, I'm sure that
that President will make the
23:02
changes, turbocharged climate
action,
23:04
Unknown: you have the power to
ensure that they leverage that
23:07
funds to mobilize much more
private finance at reasonable
23:10
cost to developing countries,
and that they end all support
23:13
for fossil fuels,
23:15
Adam Curry: fossil fuels, fossil
fuels. I know he meant fuels,
23:20
but I'm sorry, Words matter. You
said fossil fuels. Here's our
23:24
president who can't even get a
word out.
23:30
Unknown: So today, I'm pleased
to announce the United States
23:32
can provide $1 billion to the
Green Climate Fund. A fun as
23:38
critical fund is critical and
ways to help developing nations
23:42
that can't do now. But it should
not be the only way. Because
23:47
climate security, energy
security, food security, they're
23:50
all related. They're all
related. I'm calling on
23:53
development banks to scale up
their lending to clap for
23:56
climate change, which will also
accelerate the fight against
24:00
poverty.
24:00
Adam Curry: I think this is
actually the definition of a
24:02
fossil fuel. This guy right
here, let
24:04
Unknown: me close with this.
We're at a moment of great
24:06
peril, but also great
possibilities, serious
24:09
possibilities with the right
commitment, and follow through
24:13
from every nation on in this
room and on this call for goal
24:18
of limiting warming to 1.5
degrees can stay within reach.
24:22
But it's gonna take all of us
it's just one of us. Not some of
24:26
us dismissed that meet the
moment all of us all of us have
24:29
to be
24:30
Adam Curry: so this was a like a
zoom call with leaders from all
24:33
over the world and Carrie is
sitting there with Joe Biden in
24:37
a desk that looks like he's like
he's a college student in a in a
24:41
grade school desk. I mean, it's
all too small it's all
24:45
incredibly lame. And the our
fossil fuel of a president can't
24:49
even get a word out properly.
He's not the leader they want
24:54
John C Dvorak: they will I got a
bunch of Earth take this for
24:56
before we go on. I do want to
play this because of this Biden
25:00
thing. Okay. I want to play this
short clip. Newt Gingrich was
25:06
more or less Biden's age. Newt
Gingrich on Biden's age. This is
25:11
an interesting little twist.
25:14
Unknown: Yeah, here we go.
You're 79 The President is AD
25:18
is. Are you guys too old to be
president?
25:23
You know, Henry Kissinger is 20
years older than me. And I
25:26
called Henry one day I do a
podcast called newts world. And
25:31
Adam Curry: hold on, Boris, hold
on. I gotta subscribe right
25:34
away. Let's get this guy on
podcasting. 2.0 Ladies and
25:37
gentlemen, it's newts world.
25:40
Unknown: And I called Henry one
day I do a podcast called New
25:43
twirled. And I called Henry one
day and got him to agree to do
25:46
the podcast because he had a new
book coming out at 99. And I
25:50
said, you know, Henry, I'm now
79. And I'd like your advice on
25:53
aging. And he said, You're way
too young. He said, I'm not
25:57
having this comment a decade.
I'm not having this
25:59
conversation, and a 99. He's now
writing a new book. I would say
26:05
Konrad Adenauer was formidable
at 93 as Chancellor of Germany.
26:10
You know, I don't think Biden is
nearly as senile as he pretends.
26:14
I think part of that is a
gimmick on his part, to get us
26:17
to think that he doesn't quite
know what he's doing. Well, he
26:20
wins the presidency runs over
his opponents, passes trillions
26:23
of dollars in spending, and
protects his son while his son
26:27
deals with the Chinese and the
Russians and Ukrainians. So I
26:32
wouldn't ever and I wrote a
piece saying don't underestimate
26:34
him. For him from his standpoint
on his terms. He had a very
26:39
effective two years may have
been bad for the country, but it
26:42
was very good for the left.
26:46
John C Dvorak: No, well, I'm
thinking wait a minute. Wow. So
26:51
I'm thinking maybe that's the
reason Biden doesn't get the,
26:56
these tests all these cognitive
tests, because because he's got
27:00
them he'd aced them. He aced
them. He's playing now do you
27:03
chess, John? So I'm thinking
about this in terms of Vincent
27:08
G. giganteum gigante who was the
head of the general AAC family.
27:13
He's the guy warmed around in
his pajamas for 20 years in
27:18
Greenwich Village and peed on
the streets. And they would not
27:22
arrest Him or do anything to
him. He was running the family
27:25
for over 20 years in a phony
baloney state of insanity.
27:30
Adam Curry: This is by far the
best theory you've come up with
27:33
this month. This is dynamite.
Biden is pretending to be a
27:39
pajama wearing peeing full of
fossil fuel. Wow. Wow. All
27:44
right. But Michelle Obama's not
gonna run. Okay,
27:47
John C Dvorak: good. Oh, that's
for sure.
27:50
Adam Curry: In the UK, they
timed their new emergency alert
27:56
system with Earth Day. This has
been I haven't really talked
28:00
about it, but people are sending
me notes or we're going to all
28:03
the phones are gonna have the
alert system which we've had.
28:06
And this report we have it here.
Yeah. But this report has a
28:09
couple of interesting things.
One, it's all about climate
28:12
change. That's why this alert
needs to be needs to be alert,
28:15
climate change, and to every
country has a different alert,
28:21
Unknown: rare but extreme
weather like this, including
28:24
fires and floods or why the
government says we need an
28:27
emergency alert system. Well,
this is another tool in the
28:31
toolkit in order to help the
government this is the Deputy
28:35
Prime Minister respond to
emergencies and help protect
28:38
people's lives and it's very
similar Oh, it's gonna protect
28:40
your life. This tool in our
toolkit, what we have in Japan,
28:43
United States and elsewhere.
28:46
Adam Curry: We have in Japan who
we have in the United States
28:49
this is he has an emotion this
is just a New World Order alert
28:52
system
28:53
Unknown: at 3pm. Today you'll
get something like this on your
28:56
phone, a test, new alert system
29:00
Adam Curry: now listen to all
the different tones from around
29:02
the world. This is quite
puzzling.
29:04
Unknown: It also have a loud
siren like sound or vibration
29:07
lasting for about 10 seconds
29:15
during last year's tsunami, this
is how their emergency alert
29:19
system sounded. In fact, quite a
few countries have an emergency
29:26
alert system including Australia
Canada and Italy. Now it's the
29:38
UK is turn. We won't get any
information about people's
29:42
personal phones. This is a
broadcast signal that goes to
29:46
every mobile phone the
government doesn't find out
29:48
anything about your phone, as
long as your phone has a 4g or
29:52
5g signal and if it's an iPhone
running iOS software 14.5 Or for
29:58
Android phones Android 11
software or later, you will get
30:02
the text and the noise even if
it's on silence.
30:06
Adam Curry: Why does every
country have a different tone?
30:08
Did the Italians need a more
like rhythmic tone? And the
30:13
Japanese like no two tone and
the Canadians have a why? Why is
30:17
this? I find this very peculiar.
30:20
John C Dvorak: Yeah, I find this
another reason to keep my phone
30:23
in a drawer.
30:24
Adam Curry: Yeah, or throw it
out the window. I'm going back
30:27
to 1970 the very first Earth Day
This is before climate change
30:31
was the earth burning Hello
chunk Young Turks. In fact, in
30:35
1971, is when Leonard Nimoy told
us we were going to have global
30:40
cooling. Yeah, we're all gonna
die. But Earth Day in 1970. Was
30:45
was historic. I have a Walter
Cronkite newscast, CBS News. And
30:52
it sounds very familiar. It's
using children for political
30:57
means. This planet
30:59
Unknown: is threatened with
destruction. And we who live in
31:02
it with death. The heavens, the
waters below a foul. children
31:09
die in infancy. And we and the
world which is our home, we live
31:14
on the brink of nuclear
annihilation. We are in a crisis
31:19
of survival.
31:21
Adam Curry: So this is 53 years
ago. It gets better.
31:24
John C Dvorak: But that wasn't
Walter Cronkite. Oh
31:26
Adam Curry: no, that's a
biologist starting off the news
31:28
coverage here.
31:30
John C Dvorak: Starting off to
trend.
31:32
Unknown: This is a CBS News
special birthday or question of
31:37
survival. With CBS News
correspondent Walter Cronkite
31:42
ready to name a unique day in
American history is set aside
31:47
for a nationwide outpouring of
mankind seeking its own survival
31:51
survival Day, a day dedicated to
enlisting all the citizens of a
31:55
bountiful country and a common
cause of saving life from the
31:59
deadly byproducts of that topic.
Followed skies The filthy waters
32:04
the literary
32:05
Adam Curry: and notice it was
the dirty defiled skies The
32:08
filthy water the littered earth,
there was no blowing up but the
32:12
earth is on fire or going to
freeze to death. None of that
32:15
bad way.
32:17
Unknown: demonstration that
success was mixed. beyond
32:19
expectations here far below
there. No one now can know
32:23
exactly how many to fight. We do
have an idea how many plan
32:27
participation student groups and
2000 colleges and 10,000 Lower
32:32
schools, citizen groups and 2000
communities. I won measurement
32:36
birthday field, it did not
unite. It did attract that broad
32:40
cross section of America that
sponsors one it's not quite it's
32:44
demonstrators were predominantly
young, predominantly white,
32:47
predominantly anti Nixon, off on
its protests appeared frivolous
32:51
as protesters curiously
carefree. Yep, the gravity of
32:55
the message of Earth still came
through acts or die.
33:01
Adam Curry: 53 years later,
we're still using it for
33:03
political die, act or die. It's
all political. It was anti
33:08
Nixon, because Nixon was going
to kill us all. Nixon hates
33:12
children. They gave children
that there was no day off from
33:15
school, but they let everybody
go ahead and you know, it's
33:19
okay. If you take off the
protest. Nothing has changed.
33:24
Except there's more money in it
now.
33:28
Unknown: And people have figured
that out. And I'm just going to
33:32
I got a few more things here.
33:33
John C Dvorak: I'm reminded of
another scam. You remember hands
33:39
across America.
33:40
Adam Curry: We used to celebrate
that in the early days of the
33:43
show when they would talk about
it. They don't even bring it up
33:46
anymore. Yes. Hands Across
America.
33:48
John C Dvorak: Do you remember
what it was for?
33:52
Adam Curry: I think you asked me
this every time we talk about
33:54
it.
33:54
John C Dvorak: And he's a good
guy. It's a bit
33:58
Adam Curry: Hold on. I know this
answer Hold on. It was I don't
34:02
know.
34:03
John C Dvorak: I forgot a to end
homelessness in the country.
34:06
Adam Curry: So successful. I'm
so glad we did a great job. Very
34:10
well done. Hands Across America.
Yeah. And they never even
34:13
completed the chain.
34:15
John C Dvorak: Now there was a
bunch of spots they couldn't
34:17
quite finish
34:18
Unknown: and of course not. It
was ludicrous, but it's
34:21
John C Dvorak: ludicrous but it
did it long chain
34:26
Adam Curry: Okay, so let's just
was just one thing I wanted to
34:30
play. Alright, is it here? Oh,
yes. So one thing that is
34:37
cropping up everywhere,
certainly in the UK, but also in
34:40
Canada. Navia is the 15 Minute
cities and there's so much
34:45
pushback, certainly London I
mean now you love zone. You know
34:50
the ultra low emission vehicles
zone. People are ripping down
34:55
cameras spray painting the
lenses you know they're good,
34:58
creating fake license plate. To
duplicate ones that are allowed
35:01
to travel and that people hate
this, the 15 Minute city was
35:05
well explained is explained by
the World Economic Forum along
35:09
with the great reset all of this
is we're not making up the great
35:12
reset, are we? No, this is what
Klaus Schwab wrote a book called
35:17
The Great reset.
35:19
John C Dvorak: And in this
pardon to make it up when the
35:21
guy wrote a book. Well,
35:22
Adam Curry: now the script is
going out to every single news
35:25
organization, we have to debunk
the 15 Minute city by explaining
35:30
how a 15 minute city is exactly
a 15 minute city. But it's not a
35:35
it's a conspiracy theory to call
it a 15 minute city part of the
35:39
great reset.
35:40
John C Dvorak: What's it well,
hold on a second wasn't exactly
35:42
this exactly what they call it
in Oxford,
35:44
Unknown: exactly what they call
it, we
35:46
John C Dvorak: have clips of
them calling it the 15 Minute
35:48
city and how great the idea is,
and now all of a sudden, it's
35:51
become a conspiracy. How does
that work? I've never seen
35:54
anything like it
35:55
Adam Curry: because people have
caught on to it. And they're
35:56
like, No, this is part of
climate change lock downs,
35:59
you're being locked down within
your 15 Minute zone of the city.
36:03
Notice when our calling zone,
but this is exactly what it is.
36:07
So here's the script. This is
Katerina. Georgie, what's her
36:10
name? Georgieva. From the CBC,
she's reading a script wild arm
36:15
motions to accentuate that she
thinks she's, you know, when she
36:18
doesn't know what she's talking
about? Well, it's just just
36:21
listen to the script. You'll
hear it everywhere around the
36:24
world.
36:24
Unknown: So what is a 15
minutes? It's an urban planning
36:28
idea meant to make communities
more walkable and more likeable.
36:32
So imagine having everything
that you need within 15 minutes
36:35
of your home
36:36
Adam Curry: exactly what
everyone's talking about. This
36:39
is a 15 Minute city, but Oh, no,
oh, no, it's a conspiracy theory
36:42
to call it a 15 minute city. So
36:44
Unknown: imagine having
everything that you need within
36:46
15 minutes of your home without
having to use a car. planners
36:50
say that it's good for your well
being and it can help tackle
36:52
climate change.
36:54
already seeing talked over the
best bit.
36:57
And it can help tackle climate
change, and we're already seeing
37:00
it pop up in places like Paris.
So pretty straightforward,
37:04
right? So why is it associated
with conspiracy theories? The
37:08
idea has been embedded in
theories like q&a and the great
37:11
reset people worried about major
takeovers and consider
37:15
Adam Curry: I gotta break this
down. She says it's a conspiracy
37:18
theory because it's been tangled
up in conspiracy theories like Q
37:22
anon. Which last time I checked
you anonymous Democrats are
37:26
killing and eating babies. Okay,
whatever. That's that's new now.
37:30
And conspiracy theories like the
great reset. Yes. What she says
37:34
conspiracy theories have no book
it's a whole presentation is the
37:38
whole world economic forum.
37:39
Unknown: Why is it associated
with conspiracy theories? The
37:43
idea has been embedded in
theories like Q anon and the
37:46
great reset people worried about
major takeovers and control the
37:50
worried that it's a lockdown
measure that would prevent them
37:53
from leaving the boundaries of a
15 minute radius of their home
37:57
and that it's a surveillance
strategy. But that's not what's
37:59
happening in the places where
the idea is being implemented or
38:03
being floated. So how is this
connected to the county of
38:06
Essex, hundreds showed up at a
special meeting meant to discuss
38:09
the county's new official plan
which is currently being
38:12
developed. And the goal of the
plan is meant to help manage the
38:16
region as more people are
expected to move into the
38:19
community. Now, nowhere does it
mention 15 minute cities but
38:23
because it does make mention of
climate change action, and
38:26
things like improved
walkability, some people are
38:28
linking the two together as a
step in that direction. And then
38:32
come all the conspiracy theories
attached to that county
38:35
officials are stressing that not
only is the 15 Minute concept,
38:38
not what people are fearful it
is. It's also not at all on the
38:42
table at the county of Essex.
That means
38:45
Adam Curry: this this is 1984
Newspeak this lady is
38:48
John C Dvorak: doing. Gathering
the people like this woman
38:51
aren't written and put into a
ledger
38:54
Adam Curry: on a list somewhere
list. And then we have and this
38:58
is a nice bit of a Newspeak This
is Lake two layer is that am I
39:02
pronouncing that right? And
killari to Laurie I'm sorry, in
39:05
California. Now, for the past 10
years, all I've heard is
39:11
California is a drought. There's
no water we're all going to die.
39:14
The earth is burning. The
California is burning is
39:17
burning. We have no water
melting. The the reservoirs are
39:23
empty, you're going to die
conserve World Water. And now I
39:27
helped me understand this report
from ABC.
39:30
Unknown: Tonight. A frantic race
to save communities in
39:33
California's Central Valley as
the Tulare Lake dried up for
39:36
decades has reemerged
39:38
Adam Curry: now Okay, so isn't
stop it. Wouldn't it be good
39:41
news? The Tulare Lake.
39:44
John C Dvorak: It was dried up.
No, everything's bad news. Okay,
39:46
Unknown: you can see the water
lapping
39:48
up here in Tulare Lake for the
first time in four decades, but
39:52
it's coming onto a road in fact,
this is Sixth Avenue, and it's a
39:56
main thoroughfare through some
of America's most productive
39:59
farmland. For the next 10 miles,
it's several feet underwater. At
40:03
least 150,000 acres of farmland
and communities are estimated to
40:07
be flooded after at least 15.
Atmospheric Rivers dumped
40:11
continuous rain and snow and
California this winter, the
40:15
region home to the largest dairy
producing county in the nation
40:19
area farmers like Peter Jiang,
now scrambling to save their
40:23
herds.
40:24
But it was probably about this.
So this water, it would those
40:28
trees were under.
40:29
Many of his crops drowned. Three
to $4 million underwater.
40:34
Adam Curry: Wait a minute. Wait,
he's he's a dairy farmer. But
40:36
now he has crops it's very easy
for us
40:39
John C Dvorak: to get the story
straight.
40:40
Unknown: He says agriculture is
a more than $10 billion industry
40:43
in Tulare and neighboring Kings
County. 18% of the country's
40:48
Pistachios are grown here.
nearly 16% of our citrus
40:52
Adam Curry: Hold on a second.
What I heard the last time
40:54
California news was talking
about the pistachios, they're
40:57
horrible, horrible, horrible
nuts. Because the trees take up
41:02
8 million gallons of water.
41:04
John C Dvorak: You're mixing
your nuts. I have the wrong nut.
41:07
That's almonds. Almond. If you
if you actually look into it is
41:12
a bull crap. I
41:13
Adam Curry: know. How about the
pistachios. Are they thirsty?
41:15
No,
41:15
John C Dvorak: I didn't. I don't
know anything negative about
41:19
that. You know that? You know,
this is interesting as
41:22
pistachio.
41:24
Adam Curry: First of all big
deal. I'm sorry. We have a
41:26
shortage of pistachio I'll live
41:28
John C Dvorak: with the funny
thing is, you know it's you
41:30
know, pistachio nut is poisonous
to everything in the world
41:36
except humans
41:36
Unknown: because we've eaten
them we've gotten used to him.
41:41
Crazy
41:42
and in some areas that water is
estimated to be eight to 10 feet
41:45
deep. And as warmer temperatures
melt that record winter snowpack
41:50
in the Sierra Nevada, more water
is on the way. It could be years
41:55
before the water dissipates
41:57
in climate change context. We do
expect to see more severe
42:00
droughts in California as
temperatures rise, okay. Oh,
42:03
John C Dvorak: no, Help
42:04
Unknown: me Help me. Help. Me
Understand. Help me
42:08
John C Dvorak: get through the
water to go away. But we're
42:11
gonna have a drought.
42:12
Unknown: I mean, this is not
literally pistachio nuts is
42:15
warmer temperatures melt that
record winter snowpack in the
42:19
Sierra Nevada. More water is on
the way. Experts say it could be
42:24
years before the water
42:25
dissipates in climate change
context. We do expect to see
42:29
more severe droughts in
California as temperatures rise.
42:32
We also expect to see more
severe floods.
42:35
Adam Curry: Okay, all right. Now
this is gaslighting. This is
42:38
just gaslighting. Don't worry,
we're gonna see more droughts
42:41
and more floods.
42:43
Unknown: And what you can see
homes like this. It's been
42:45
underwater for already a couple
of weeks. But now if you look at
42:48
just this 20 mile stretch of
road alone, farmers tell me they
42:52
estimate the economic impact of
this flooding to be nearly a
42:56
billion dollars. And more water
is on the way.
42:59
Adam Curry: Wait a minute, it
was $10 billion and pistachio
43:02
nut industry it's only a billion
dollar damage. This is a bogus
43:05
report. And they just did it
because it's Earth Day and they
43:08
sent out a second stringer to do
it.
43:10
John C Dvorak: I agree this is a
bogus report we've already had
43:13
most of the waters receded
everywhere around here and the
43:16
the snow packs not melting yet.
I mean, there's there's issues
43:19
in the Mississippi River Basin.
There's no doubt about that. But
43:22
that's not around here. And
yeah, we're doing fine. So
43:26
they're
43:26
Adam Curry: so out of ideas
after 53 years. They have no
43:30
ideas, you know, solar and wind.
No one's buying that anymore.
43:34
John C Dvorak: I got I got some
limits. Let
43:36
Adam Curry: me play just one bit
of Don Lemon on CNN. He's still
43:39
there, Don. They're still there.
Don Lemon on CNN and he has on
43:44
Bill Weir, and they have answers
to climate change.
43:47
Unknown: So soon as chief
climate correspondent Bill Weir
43:49
joins us people don't
43:50
care what you hear. Do you hear
him laughing? He's already
43:52
laughing. Beware.
43:54
So soon as chief climate
correspondent Bill Weir joins
43:57
us.
43:58
It's time for the bullcrap
segment of the week Bill Weir.
44:01
Chief climate correspondent Bill
Weir joins us people don't care
44:04
what you call it if it's
artificial whale poop or
44:06
whatever.
44:06
Does it help in the fight? It
doesn't help. It helps. So this
44:09
is Sir David King. He was the UK
top science adviser for a decade
44:12
he runs the Center for Climate
repair at Cambridge. And I went
44:15
there thinking they would have
all these amazing ideas for new
44:17
forms of energy or nuclear
fusion. And their top ideas are
44:21
artificial whale poop, and
splits in yachts that will spray
44:25
a fine mist in the air at the
North Pole and refreeze the
44:28
Arctic three months a year.
Those are their big ideas. But
44:31
there's marine biomass
Regeneration, we lost the oceans
44:35
fertilizer pumps when we killed
95% of the big baleen whales,
44:39
they go down deep they scoop up
the nutrients they poop them at
44:41
the surface. That's what gives
the oceans life the oceans give
44:45
us breath. And so thinking about
how we tackle this,
44:49
Adam Curry: I'm sorry, do the
oceans give us breath? John, I'm
44:52
just asking you as a biologist,
I thought the trees gave us
44:55
breath. Now the Trees give us
breath
44:58
John C Dvorak: and then notice
an ocean I can See for me what
45:00
happened
45:00
Adam Curry: to the Amazon the
lungs of the world come on
45:03
people I can remember stuff
45:04
Unknown: brilliant on Monster of
excess carbon we call carbon
45:07
Godzilla and the our Harbin
45:09
John C Dvorak: Godzilla, kirpan
Godzilla.
45:12
Unknown: People are coming at it
from different ways. Some are
45:14
building machines, some want to
use artificial whale poop, which
45:17
is really volcanic ash.
Something we've gone too far
45:20
we've waited too long and we
need to spray sunscreen in the
45:22
sky to turn down the sun for a
couple of years and bias time.
45:26
So we get into all these big
radical ideas.
45:29
Adam Curry: All right, so the
big radical ideas we have
45:31
artificial whale poop. spritzing
EOPS spritzing yachts are sounds
45:36
like something on PornHub and
carbon Godzilla. I mean, this
45:42
thing is over. They have nothing
left. Except hydrogen, hydrogen.
45:49
The green hydrogen means the
45:50
John C Dvorak: President get
more hydrogen. Hydrogen reports.
45:54
The PBS went after plants
45:59
Adam Curry: formerly known as
the the breath of the world,
46:02
formally, formally.
46:04
John C Dvorak: So I have three
clips that our birthday saved
46:08
the plants PBS.
46:09
Unknown: Sorry to say that 80%
of the earth species are not yet
46:13
known and even as more are
identified.
46:17
John C Dvorak: Hold on a second.
Oh, I didn't know this. This is
46:19
News. That's nice. I thought
that was a tidbit that to
46:22
remember 80% of the world's
species are not yet known of
46:29
which
46:29
Adam Curry: 90% are COVID
variants. This is
46:35
Unknown: starting to see that
80% of the Earth's species are
46:38
not yet known. And even as more
are identified, more are
46:42
disappearing. Sometimes we don't
know what's being lost until
46:45
it's too late. Oh, cool.
46:47
Adam Curry: Now he's doing song
lyrics. Join and what you got
46:50
until it's gone on. Come
46:51
Unknown: on. On this Earth Day
we begin our series looking at
46:54
what it takes to save plants and
animals. We call it saving
46:58
species and our first
installment looks at the world
47:01
of plants.
47:01
Oh goodness, I am pulling off
the fruits of this cactus
47:05
seed by tiny seed meticulous and
for some mundane work.
47:11
These little black dots are
coming out are the seeds of this
47:13
cactus.
47:14
This is how you save a species.
KENNETH Silveira is one of the
47:19
dozens of horticulturalists at
the US Botanic Garden in
47:22
Washington DC, who are working
to give some of the world's most
47:26
endangered and rare plant
species a better chance of
47:30
survival. The Botanic Garden
which is part of Congress is a
47:35
living plant museum with 44,000
Fascinating plants with
47:39
intriguing stories spread across
a conservatory and a production
47:43
facility. These are from all
over the world they are so
47:48
Executive Director Susan pill
let us through the mist heat and
47:51
humidity stopping to talk under
a giant leaves with the
47:54
endangered corpse flower.
47:58
John C Dvorak: This is a whole
these plants have a story to
48:00
tell. According to him. This is
a
48:02
Adam Curry: whole theory a whole
series of this boring stuff
48:04
they're doing.
48:05
John C Dvorak: And so they have
a corpse plants plant, which
48:08
they have in San Francisco to
get one and
48:10
Unknown: what is a corpse plant?
Are they gonna tell us
48:14
John C Dvorak: a corpse plant
they have one in the city and
48:17
Jay and her boyfriend went over
to the city because it was in
48:20
bloom and it's rare.
48:22
Adam Curry: Oh, a billion blooms
once every 20 years or
48:24
something?
48:25
John C Dvorak: Some like that.
Yeah, you gotta catch the bloom.
48:28
They didn't bloom was already
faded, so they didn't get the
48:30
full bloom but they did get the
48:32
Adam Curry: stench right and
then it put in that it shoots
48:34
out this this if I recall dust
and stench and red Redstone,
48:38
John C Dvorak: it smells like it
smells like a dead animal.
48:43
That's why it's called a corpse
plant. So that's really neat.
48:47
That's great.
48:49
Unknown: Onward with
48:50
that about 34% of all of the
plants in the United States are
48:53
at risk of becoming endangered.
We see similar numbers globally
48:57
with that where there's about
40% of global flora is at risk
49:01
of extinction. Why?
49:03
Scientists say the planet is
currently at the beginning of
49:06
John C Dvorak: what what do you
mean? You should
49:08
Unknown: ask why they're not
telling me why these plants are
49:10
there.
49:11
John C Dvorak: They'll tell you
why. You know why knows why
49:14
humans
49:15
Unknown: Scientists say the
planet is currently at the
49:17
beginning of its sixth mass
extinction go and a high
49:21
percentage of biodiversity
animals plants trees die off.
49:26
Adam Curry: I got stuck on the
fourth mass extinction I can't
49:30
remember we're on the sixth
49:32
John C Dvorak: and by the way
with 80% of all species still
49:35
unidentified I don't know how
they can do this. I don't
49:39
doesn't make sense but Okay,
let's go on.
49:42
Unknown: What's driving this is
it. Is it climate change that
49:48
okay, I love this. What's,
what's driving this? Is it to
49:53
climate change?
49:54
What's driving this is it? Is it
climate change?
49:58
Certainly climate change is as
huge factor and risk that we see
50:02
to our worlds flora. But there's
other factors as well. Certainly
50:05
the developments from you know,
wild lands into agricultural use
50:10
or buildings. Another factor in
there is the introduction of
50:14
invasive species. So
50:16
the transportation of species
around the globe and introducing
50:19
them into areas in which they
didn't evolve really most of the
50:22
driver of extinction is human
activity.
50:25
Adam Curry: Thank you. Thank you
as long as we can get guilted
50:27
into something Yes.
50:29
John C Dvorak: Yeah, go You said
human activity and that's what
50:32
it is. And you know what this
all we're all humans
50:35
Unknown: Well, before we do that
50:43
the war on chicken?
50:45
Adam Curry: Oh, yeah, baby. The
war on chicken. We called it
50:48
many, many moons ago. And now
with the climate change Earth
50:51
Day on top of the deck, it's
time once again to tell you that
50:54
you don't need real chicken. You
need real chicken made from
50:59
chicken cell cultures.
51:00
Unknown: It's big Tech's newest
take on big ag
51:03
Adam Curry: no big Tech's newest
take on big ag that's an opening
51:07
no farmland,
51:08
Unknown: no coops. But these
labs in Silicon Valley could be
51:12
the future of meat.
51:14
There are a lot of benefits of
making meat in this way from a
51:17
percent less emissions 70% less
water and land. But one of the
51:22
biggest things you don't need to
harm animal
51:24
Josh Tetrick is the CEO of
51:26
Adam Curry: what you don't need
to harm an animal. Oh, yeah.
51:31
John C Dvorak: Well, here's the
other thing you got to consider
51:33
this. If you're growing a bunch
of cells that's an animal be i
51:38
Adam Curry: No no, no, no, no,
no, that's not that's like, like
51:42
a fetus is also you know, that's
not not a human. So cells are
51:46
not animals cells are not
humans.
51:49
Unknown: It's one of only two
companies in the US that's
51:51
received clearance from the FDA
for human consumption of lab
51:54
grown meat
51:55
Adam Curry: Hello. I was not
consulted on this. When When did
52:00
this take place this FDA
approval from the agenda dude
52:03
with the with the bow tie that
we talked about in the last show
52:06
that moron he approved this the
USDA still needs to oh, this
52:09
USDA prove it for sale? Oh, they
Oh, so FDA approves the drug
52:14
guys, but the USDA hasn't
52:15
Unknown: this is not vegan or
vegetarian.
52:17
The other company is upside
foods headed by cardiologist uma
52:21
valetti. talked to me about the
science here. How does it work?
52:24
The science is fascinating, but
it's fairly simple. We take
52:27
cells from eggs or young animals
or mature animals, and we
52:32
identify those cells that are
capable of going into fats,
52:35
proteins connective tissue,
52:37
those cells are then prepped in
a lab and pumped into stainless
52:41
steel vessels. Inside this bio
reactor tank. There are billions
52:44
of chicken cells growing it will
take about a month before
52:47
they're ready to eat. Right now
in the US you can only eat
52:50
cultivated chicken on company
premises.
52:54
I can't wait. It's it's all
Silicon Valley's Google Chicken
52:57
Man. Google chicken is coming.
52:59
Oh go chicken
53:00
curds. Only place in the world
you can buy cultivated meat is
53:03
in Singapore where eat just
sells its chicken out of
53:07
financial loss. So the
motivation isn't profit here.
53:10
Why sell in Singapore?
53:12
Oh, yeah. Because we love that
we love animals. And we love
53:15
people. We don't want to make
any money. No
53:17
selling in Singapore is a way of
demonstrating that this new
53:20
approach to making meat is not
science fiction.
53:23
But it's here. It's reality.
Experts say lab grown chicken
53:27
showing up on store shelves in
the US is likely still years
53:30
away.
53:31
There's a ton of risk. There's a
lot of uncertainty. But the
53:35
other option,
53:36
Adam Curry: wait a minute. How
can the FDA have approved this
53:41
if there's a lot of risk and
uncertainty? Listen again.
53:44
Unknown: Experts say lab grown
chicken showing up on store
53:46
shelves in the US is likely
still years away.
53:49
There's a ton of risk in doing
this. There's a lot of
53:52
uncertainty, but the other
option is not to do anything.
53:58
And that seems worse.
54:00
One bite at a time
54:02
Adam Curry: I opt for DOD to do
anything. How can the FDA
54:06
approve something that has a ton
of risk?
54:11
John C Dvorak: Well, it's called
the COVID vaccine.
54:13
Adam Curry: There you go. All
right. I'm going to set you up
54:15
for your big presentation of
artificial intelligence. You
54:18
went through the CBS 60 minutes
Scott Pelley. hypothet on which
54:24
I have not seen I did not watch
the 60 minutes because I knew
54:28
you were coming with your ex
Jose, you're
54:31
John C Dvorak: just it's just a
it's only a part of the total. I
54:35
mean, I was just noticing clip
after clip. They're all short.
54:38
But there's little tidbits and
tips. It never ended. I mean,
54:42
this was a half the show is
about this.
54:45
Adam Curry: I'm going to set you
up with a couple of news stories
54:48
collected by a clip custodian of
the incredible harmful dangers
54:54
of AI. It's taking over the
world. We're all going to die.
54:57
But really it's about copyright.
55:00
Unknown: This morning seven
times Superbowl winning
55:02
quarterback Tom Brady the latest
celeb to call Thau against
55:05
artificial intelligence Brady
threatening legal action after
55:08
an online comedy show doozy
produced the stand up special.
55:12
Featuring an AI generated Brady
making crass comments the clip
55:16
quickly making the rounds on the
Pat McAfee show airing an
55:19
excerpt. Wow, it
55:20
feels great to be back in front
of a crowd. But I got to say,
55:23
even though this is a much,
much, much, much, much, much
55:25
smaller crowd than I'm used to.
55:26
That That sounds exactly.
55:29
Dudes. The video was taken down
after Brady's attorney sent a
55:33
cease and desist letter to the
two comedians behind the
55:35
podcast. The entertainers
standing by their special
55:38
calling it free speech.
55:39
It's exactly like what you would
see if you watch any stand up
55:43
comedy special or any sketch
comedy show. Sorry. Yeah. Where
55:48
they're doing impersonations of
55:49
Yeah,
55:50
Brady isn't the only athlete
fighting back the family of
55:53
German Formula One champion
Michael Schumacher also planning
55:56
to take legal action against the
German tabloid accusing the
55:59
outlet of passing off a fake AI
interview as the first with
56:03
Schumacher following his 2013
near fatal ski accident.
56:07
So because a lot of the current
wave of AI sounds like a human,
56:13
it's very easy to mistake it for
a human.
56:18
Adam Curry: That's the ABC tech
lady tech girl.
56:21
Unknown: Oh God.
56:22
Adam Curry: So working backwards
the Michael Schumacher thing is
56:26
really gross, because they
pretend that it was a real
56:28
interview with him they weren't
there wasn't like a couple of
56:31
comedians yucking it up they
pretended that Michael
56:33
Schumacher is brain dead I think
you he can't he is brain
56:38
challenged via brain challenge
Yes. And that was sick and they
56:43
fired the editor of the of the
publication he should now it
56:49
this is the best that AI can do
by the way this is what it's all
56:53
about. It's all about
celebrities losing their
56:56
possible income because I don't
know because he didn't actually
57:00
go on the podcast himself. Who
cares?
57:05
John C Dvorak: Duality is going
to be a lot of these shoots I
57:07
predicted this right off the you
dig
57:09
Adam Curry: it? You did and this
next clip proves
57:11
Unknown: it artificial
intelligence also making waves
57:13
in the music industry. It's not
57:15
Adam Curry: artificial
intelligence. It's artificial
57:17
copy paste.
57:18
Unknown: Recently Universal
Music Group who has represented
57:21
artists like Rihanna. And Drake
will used to call me on my cell
57:27
phone demanding streaming
platforms like Spotify and Apple
57:31
Music block AI generated songs
like this one of AI Drake and
57:35
the weekend performing a
reportedly fake collaboration
57:38
called heart on my sleeve.
57:42
Adam Curry: By the way, tell me
what you think. Is this song
57:44
just shit? I mean, what do you
think of this music?
57:48
John C Dvorak: Well, you're
asking me I'm not a big fan of
57:51
Drake to begin with.
57:52
Adam Curry: You're a fan of
Rihanna, though. And you heard
57:54
the rawness Well, yeah,
57:54
John C Dvorak: but you have to
be stoned to listen to Briana.
58:00
Unknown: The song eventually
taken down, but experts say this
58:04
is just the beginning.
58:05
One of the biggest problems with
AI right now is there are no
58:09
regulations. So what we have now
is we have to trust that the
58:15
technology companies are going
to police themselves.
58:18
Adam Curry: Oh, tech Girl,
please don't insult me use the
58:22
last bit about the legality.
58:24
Unknown: And critics are
skeptical that given the speed
58:26
at which AI is developing that
the law may not be able to keep
58:29
up. But in the meantime,
advocacy groups have formed to
58:32
protect artists Geo and like you
said, Mona, this is just the
58:35
beginning. All right, thank you
for that.
58:37
Adam Curry: So this is just no
na mo just the beginning. I am
58:42
very happy with this
development, the more they can
58:45
screw with the whole music
business, which no one makes
58:49
money anymore except the
publishers. The artists don't
58:52
make money the streaming even
Spotify can't turn a profit. I
58:56
think they should flood the
market with all this copy paste
58:59
Auto Tune crap. Which it really
is everything these days,
59:03
everything shared it, can you
believe in love with auto tune?
59:07
It's now that's just how you
sing. You can't sing this. You
59:10
can't you can sing. Everybody
uses auto tunes. Of course it
59:14
was it was aI generated to start
with if you're going to be
59:17
technical about it. Auto Tune is
artificial intelligence for
59:20
people who can't sing. And so
now they've just expanded that
59:23
the only thing I can see from a
legal perspective. Perhaps
59:28
interestingly, because I know
about is the Lanham Act. Were
59:31
concerned consumers might be
confused. Yeah, yeah. Yeah,
59:35
John C Dvorak: that's exactly
right. That I think
59:37
Adam Curry: you have a case
there. But who wants more Drake?
59:42
Who cares? So people like Drake
flood flood Spotify with flood
59:48
the internet with this fake
stuff flooded? We can
59:51
John C Dvorak: buy some. I have
some real stuff here. And before
59:54
I start with the Scott Pelley
stuff, I do have a summary of
59:58
Elon I was on Tucker talking
about artificial intelligence.
1:00:04
Anyone has talked about the
economy. And so I got all mixed
1:00:07
up, I don't even know. But I
took the best parts. You made a
1:00:11
little a little mini mix, and
made a small mix of one minute
1:00:15
and 13 seconds of Elon. So yes.
1:00:25
Unknown: And so there's the if
you were to actually that, you
1:00:38
know, the there's nothing for
the CIO. So the stuff we've seen
1:00:44
thus far, actually hasn't even
is only slightly.
1:00:53
This is a dire situation. The
Great Depression. So, inflation
1:01:05
is going to happen no matter
what. So
1:01:09
like, what is money? You've got,
you've got, you've got these
1:01:12
sort of, you've got you've got,
you've got these sort of, you
1:01:17
know, barreling forward and you
know, hope for the best. And and
1:01:27
what are you? Yeah, fully a
specialist.
1:01:32
Adam Curry: That is exactly the
way he is. He's the Kim
1:01:34
Kardashian of tech. I think you
did an accurate record
1:01:37
representation of this
overblown, overhyped dude, who
1:01:41
just has a big bag of money from
Sequoia Capital and his handler
1:01:45
rule of Botha also fellow South
African. His whole family is
1:01:50
weird. He's weird. He's not
invented anything new. He is a
1:01:54
great sales guy because people
buy into this and Tucker
1:01:57
Carlson. pathetically lapping it
all up. Like you do, huh? Well,
1:02:07
I'm gonna give you a borderline
Clip of the Day for that it was
1:02:09
dynamite. The most sense Elon
has made Ever did you see his
1:02:15
lackeys? I tried to clip it, it
was just too to dump Calacanis
1:02:20
and two board members of Space
X. They were all on site at the
1:02:24
launch. And this was the most
successful thing that ever seen.
1:02:28
Oh, so great. Because, you know,
this is the thing that will take
1:02:33
us to Mars, we needed to have it
fail to prove that we can go to
1:02:37
Mars, it got off the launch pad.
Dude, you didn't get past the
1:02:40
dome. Okay. This is I can't
believe people are still buying
1:02:46
this
1:02:49
John C Dvorak: is your right but
the sales part that start with a
1:02:52
Scott Pelley talking, he's going
to be all he's all jacked up.
1:02:56
God is God never seen anything
like it. So he's talking to
1:03:01
Sundar, other people, mostly
Google. This is Google guys will
1:03:05
be a native ad. Well,
1:03:07
Adam Curry: before we get into
that, I want to read an article
1:03:10
about the Google Google barf is
their version of AI. And this is
1:03:17
from what publication from well,
Yahoo has from Bloomberg. There
1:03:22
we go. Google's rush to win in
AI led to an ethical lapses
1:03:28
employees say, one workers
conclusion, Barth was a
1:03:32
pathological liar. According to
screenshots of the internal
1:03:36
discussion. Under the cold it
cringe worthy. One employee
1:03:40
wrote that when they asked barfs
suggestions for how to land a
1:03:43
plane, it regularly gave advice
that would lead to a crash.
1:03:47
Another set of gave answers on
scuba diving, which would likely
1:03:50
result in serious injury or
death. So this is Google. I
1:03:55
mean,
1:03:56
John C Dvorak: this is a but
this is a reflection of the
1:03:58
pathological kind of psychotic
mentality that actually exudes
1:04:04
from Google. It goes right into
there. Hey, I see a bunch of
1:04:08
sociopaths. Yes.
1:04:09
Unknown: CEO, Sundar Pichai told
us AI will be as good or as evil
1:04:14
as human nature allows. The
revolution, he says, is coming
1:04:19
faster than you know, do you
think society is prepared for
1:04:24
what's coming? You know,
1:04:26
there are two ways I think about
it. On
1:04:28
one hand, on one hand, we're
fucked. I feel
1:04:31
no, because you know, the pace
at which we can think and adapt
1:04:35
as societal institutions
compared to the pace at which
1:04:38
the technology is evolving.
There seems to be a mismatch. On
1:04:42
the other hand, compared to any
other technology, I've seen more
1:04:46
people worried about it earlier
in its lifecycle, so I feel
1:04:49
optimistic. The number of people
you know, who have started
1:04:53
worrying about the implications,
and hence the conversations are
1:04:57
starting in a serious way as
well. I get
1:05:01
Adam Curry: it before you
continue. I'm going to
1:05:03
intersperse these clips with a
few pieces of information that
1:05:06
boots on the ground from a
Silicon Valley insider why
1:05:10
everyone is all GD about AI and
Silicon Valley. All of these
1:05:14
technology companies were pumped
up with new money during COVID.
1:05:17
They over hired and the short
live bump in business that they
1:05:21
all experienced during that
timeframe is drying up. They see
1:05:25
the economic headwinds, and
would have glommed on to
1:05:27
anything that seemed like a
solution. All of these new AI
1:05:31
tools launched at the exact same
exact time when everybody was
1:05:35
searching for a fix. So now the
industry is full of middle
1:05:38
managers who have never actually
used these tools to accomplish
1:05:42
anything, but believe in the
pitch, because their financial
1:05:45
future depends on it, they think
it will work to 10x productivity
1:05:49
because they need something to
10x their employee productivity.
1:05:53
What clued me into this
realization was a recent all
1:05:55
hands meeting at my work with a
CEO was asked what he had been
1:05:59
using AI tools for, he didn't
have an answer. The short story
1:06:04
is that he had played around
with the tools, same sort of
1:06:07
useless questions that everyone
else has, but nothing has been
1:06:10
integrated into his day to day
work. And then we had another
1:06:14
meeting, headed by one of the
division leads, who was asked
1:06:17
what suggestions he had for how
employees could integrate the
1:06:20
tools into their work. He didn't
have much to suggest beyond
1:06:23
using them to reward things like
documentation, or use it as some
1:06:28
sort of quality assurance filter
when interacting with customers.
1:06:33
The reality is these tools
aren't actually all that useful,
1:06:35
especially for competent
employees that are above average
1:06:38
writers, at least I haven't seen
any evidence that they are with
1:06:42
all of the efforts to try and
integrate them into our work.
1:06:44
I'm sure there will be some
applications, but they will
1:06:47
never result in the 10x
Increases in productivity that
1:06:50
so many people think are
possible. I think that's spot
1:06:53
on.
1:06:55
John C Dvorak: And I agree with
that 100%. These tools are just
1:07:01
I don't know what I actually
don't even know if they're going
1:07:03
to double anyone's productivity,
let alone 10x. Right? Well, you
1:07:08
know, that's Silicon Valley. The
whole idea of Silicon Valley,
1:07:10
for people who don't know, is
that if you had to beat them to
1:07:14
the main sales pitch, I am
building a product X, and I'm
1:07:19
using 45 chips in it to make it
work. And those 45 chips cost
1:07:24
$4,500 If someone comes along
with a a chip that will replace
1:07:30
half of those chips, and reduce
my cost from 4500 to 2000. I'm a
1:07:37
winner. I will sell millions of
these chips and everybody makes
1:07:41
out it's always about finding
some way to make things cheaper.
1:07:45
And and usually that's done with
silicone. And everything that
1:07:50
comes along it's not silicone
they think well maybe you know
1:07:52
it could be used it can be used
like like silica we can we can
1:07:56
make productivity go way up and
never does. Only silicon does.
1:08:01
But let's go on with part two of
this eclipse.
1:08:03
Unknown: Worldwide Google runs
90% of internet searches and 70%
1:08:09
of smartphones.
1:08:10
Adam Curry: I think that's a
lie. I think tick tock is
1:08:13
running a bigger percentage than
they are than they are aware of
1:08:16
internet searches.
1:08:18
John C Dvorak: I really don't
think they're counting ticktock
1:08:21
Well, no, of
1:08:21
Unknown: course not.
1:08:22
John C Dvorak: Of course it was
it just beyond this beside the
1:08:25
point. Yes,
1:08:26
Unknown: we're really excited
about but its dominance was
1:08:29
attacked this past February,
when Microsoft linked its search
1:08:33
engine to a chatbot. In a race
for AI dominance. Google just
1:08:38
released its chatbot named bar.
1:08:42
It's really here to help you
brainstorm ideas to generate
1:08:46
content like a speech or a blog
post or an email.
1:08:50
We were introduced to Bard by
Google vice President Sisi shell
1:08:55
and Senior Vice President James
manuka. Here's Bard and the
1:08:59
first thing we learned was that
Bard does not look for answers
1:09:05
on the internet like Google
search does
1:09:09
Adam Curry: you know the podcast
industrial complex is a so hard
1:09:14
up you know all these hosting
companies everybody has to come
1:09:18
up with something new I guess
because businesses you know
1:09:23
businesses static it's not like
more podcasts are being made
1:09:26
everyone's out of luck locked
down people got other things to
1:09:29
do with their life and you know
there's there's it's very hard
1:09:32
to make money in podcast
advertising has dried up so they
1:09:35
all have now Oh, yes, AI show
notes. So all you have to do is
1:09:40
just hit the button and it
creates show notes and chapters
1:09:43
and summaries and everything for
you. This is not going to work.
1:09:48
John C Dvorak: I wanted to play
that that last clip I play for
1:09:51
the sole purpose of making sure
that it's that you know that
1:09:55
these this particular barf never
ever, ever, ever looks at the
1:10:00
internet. Yeah, well as like the
search engine does, yeah.
1:10:05
Doesn't go to Google search for
anything. And somehow Okay,
1:10:09
let's go ahead clip
1:10:10
Unknown: three. Bard's replies
come from a self contained
1:10:14
program that was mostly self
taught our experience mostly
1:10:19
unsettling, confusing,
absolutely confounding. Bard
1:10:23
appeared to possess the sum of
human knowledge with microchip.
1:10:28
Adam Curry: Whoa, whoa, whoa,
who did that? Did you do that?
1:10:32
allege what is that who just
came all over Scott Pelley.
1:10:37
John C Dvorak: That was Scott
Pelley.
1:10:39
Unknown: But knowledge with
microchips more than 100,000
1:10:44
times faster than the human
brain.
1:10:47
Wow, that guy is out of control.
1:10:50
John C Dvorak: microchips
100,000 times faster than the
1:10:54
human brain. So what what's that
got to do with the price of
1:10:59
bread? This chips are fast. And
what what microchips do we have
1:11:05
that are that are in the human
brain is bull crap.
1:11:09
Unknown: Well, he has he has
very slow microchips are Scott.
1:11:15
John C Dvorak: I think it was
taking a dump. So it sounds like
1:11:20
a good one. Okay, nice.
1:11:26
Unknown: All right clip for
summarize the we asked Bard to
1:11:29
summarize the New Testaments. It
did in five seconds and 17 words
1:11:35
Oh, please tell me they have the
summary in this clip. Please,
1:11:39
please tell me I
1:11:40
John C Dvorak: wish, man it was
like Be good to your neighbor.
1:11:44
It was just it was that's not a
summary of anything.
1:11:47
Unknown: Oh, I need the summary
of the New Testament. I need
1:11:50
this Ekins
1:11:52
John C Dvorak: look at this is
posted on the on the screen
1:11:55
Unknown: did in five seconds.
And 17 words in Latin. We asked
1:12:00
for it in Latin. That took
another four seconds.
1:12:03
Adam Curry: I think everyone's
seen her except for this guy. I
1:12:06
think that's the summary of the
New Testament.
1:12:09
Unknown: Then we played with a
famous six word short story,
1:12:14
often attributed to Hemingway
for sale baby shoes, never worn.
1:12:19
Wow. The only prompt we gave was
finish this story in five
1:12:25
seconds. Holy cow. Oh God, the
shoes were a gift from my wife.
1:12:31
But we never had a baby. They
were from the six word prompt.
1:12:36
Bard created a deeply human tale
with characters it invented,
1:12:42
including a man whose wife could
not conceive. And a stranger
1:12:47
grieving after a miscarriage and
longing for closure
1:12:51
soon to be CBS movie of the
week. Sounds like a dynamite
1:12:57
script. Right? Wow, this this?
1:13:04
John C Dvorak: Oh, wow. All
right. As you can tell, oh, I
1:13:09
got two. Were there.
1:13:11
Adam Curry: Anything any
ratings? Anyone watched this?
1:13:13
Oh,
1:13:13
John C Dvorak: yeah, everybody
did. Let's go. We want to clip
1:13:15
five. I believe.
1:13:17
Unknown: You have it. There's
two clip fives. Yeah, go with
1:13:19
John C Dvorak: the poem.
1:13:20
Unknown: Give me we asked her
the story inverse. In five
1:13:25
seconds, there was a poem
written by a machine with
1:13:29
breathtaking insight into the
mystery of faith. Bard wrote,
1:13:35
she knew her baby's soul would
always be alive. The humanity at
1:13:42
superhuman speed was a shock.
1:13:45
Adam Curry: I'm noticing a trend
here. He has now talked about
1:13:48
faith and God and the New
Testament. That feels like Scott
1:13:54
Pelley is trying to say, this is
the new god. This is the God you
1:13:59
want. I mean this. Why is he
doing
1:14:02
John C Dvorak: this? I'm not
saying that you're wrong, but
1:14:05
it's stretch to me. Let's just
clip five the problem. This is a
1:14:09
four second clip. I'm not sure
what this
1:14:11
Unknown: is. I am rarely
speechless. I don't know what to
1:14:15
make of this.
1:14:20
John C Dvorak: All right, that
was I think he was supposed to
1:14:23
be an ISO for the show. Okay,
well, okay. Let's move on. Move
1:14:29
on to seven
1:14:31
Unknown: tracks of the AI issues
we talked about. The most
1:14:34
mysterious is called emergent
properties. Some AI systems are
1:14:41
teaching themselves skills that
they weren't expected to have.
1:14:46
How this happens is not well
understood. For example, one
1:14:51
Google AI program adapted on its
own after it was prompted in the
1:14:56
language of Bangladesh which is
was not trained to know.
1:15:02
We discovered that with very few
amounts of prompting in Bengali,
1:15:07
he could not translate all of
Bengali.
1:15:11
John C Dvorak: That's very handy
is bullcrap
1:15:13
Unknown: that's very handy.
1:15:15
John C Dvorak: Now let's say
this is bullcrap. And and then I
1:15:18
refer back to the early clip
that said, it never uses the
1:15:22
Google search engine to do
anything. They make it sound as
1:15:25
though it dreamed up the Bengali
language and all those crazy
1:15:29
characters, you should look at
this language out of the blue,
1:15:33
just with a simple prompt. Next
thing you know, it's fluent.
1:15:37
This is nonsense. There is no
way without doing some research
1:15:42
or a look at the language or
some sort of search that it can
1:15:47
do this while we're being fed
book after book after book. I
1:15:50
mean, this is bold
1:15:51
Adam Curry: crowd. Question is
can Google make the next $10
1:15:55
billion quarter with this
Bengali skill? No,
1:15:58
John C Dvorak: no, again? No.
1:16:00
Adam Curry: I'm gonna do I'm
gonna make a crazy prediction
1:16:02
here. Okay, well, you're gonna
love this prediction because I
1:16:07
if this is not advice, I'm not
going to do it myself. But if I
1:16:10
were someone who were buying
stocks and bonds, I would pour
1:16:14
money into Facebook. Meta. Meta
has done something very smart.
1:16:20
They fired all the people
working on the metaverse,
1:16:23
they've completely ditched the
metaverse. In fact. Here's a
1:16:26
quote meta is no longer pitching
the metaverse in conversations
1:16:29
with advertisers, as I said,
trying to get them back to a
1:16:33
tick tock like short form
videos, stark contrast to last
1:16:38
year, so they have now closed
down effectively the stupid,
1:16:42
stupid Metaverse idea. And they
are not all jacked up in GD
1:16:48
about AI. And everyone else is
going to lose their shirt. And
1:16:56
wait until the climate change.
People figured out how much
1:16:58
energy this stuff is. So wait,
wait, wait until they figure out
1:17:03
there was this is bigger than
Bitcoin, the amount of energy
1:17:06
this this bullcrap sucks up?
1:17:08
John C Dvorak: Yes. In fact,
that was that was kind of
1:17:10
pointed out but downplayed on
the show itself. Because if they
1:17:13
brought another guy in just a
half an hour mature, but you'd
1:17:16
only have this one last clip. I
didn't bring. I mean, I could
1:17:19
have gone on for days. But let's
play this as L. Sundar, the Al
1:17:23
Gore rhythms, which I just
started, when I first read this
1:17:27
show title,
1:17:29
Unknown: there are two views of
this. There are a set of people
1:17:31
who view this as Look, these are
just algorithms to just
1:17:36
repeating what it's seen online.
Then there is the view
1:17:40
Adam Curry: algorithms. What is
that? What are their
1:17:42
John C Dvorak: algorithms,
1:17:45
Unknown: algorithm algorithms?
1:17:48
Algorithms? I
1:17:49
John C Dvorak: liked what you
said.
1:17:51
Adam Curry: You said algorithms
algorithm wishes I think the
1:17:54
song he did with Chevy Chase,
isn't it? Yes. You know, you
1:17:59
know that song? Yes, you can
call me out algorithms Chevy
1:18:02
Chase and Al Gore.
1:18:04
Unknown: That's right. These are
just algorithms to just
1:18:07
repeating what is seen online.
Then there is the view where
1:18:13
these algorithms are showing
emergent properties.
1:18:18
Adam Curry: Oh, boy, that's some
bull crap. The algorithms are
1:18:22
showing some emergent
properties. What does that mean?
1:18:26
John C Dvorak: Nothing. Okay.
1:18:28
Adam Curry: Well, good report,
John. I'm very afraid that AI is
1:18:31
going to take over our job.
We're doomed you and me baby
1:18:36
doomed. This this actually
guarantees will have worked for
1:18:41
the rest of our living breathing
is on this earth. Wow. All
1:18:47
right. Before we take a break, I
do want to give a little update.
1:18:51
I've been diving, I have to dive
deep into this trans Maoism
1:18:58
because every day, every single
day, a parent a producer who
1:19:02
listens to this show is saying
thank you for doing this.
1:19:08
Because my and it's always
daughter, my daughter wants to
1:19:12
be a boy. This is very
concerning. And and because of
1:19:18
the pronouns and the pressure. I
think a lot of parents are very,
1:19:24
very confused and and not quite
sure what what to do. And so a
1:19:32
couple of things I just want to
throw out there. One is there's
1:19:34
now a besides the trans Maoist
part of this, which is really
1:19:40
convincing young girls 80% of
the transitioning children is
1:19:45
teenage girls and I have a clip
about that in a moment from a
1:19:48
forthcoming documentary. They
are immediately grabbed by the
1:19:54
pharmaceutical medical industry.
The rapists also knows
1:19:57
therapists because you know Oh,
Oh boy, oh, you're clearly your
1:20:02
boy trapped in a girl's body.
It's all confirmed by the
1:20:08
educational system. The
educational system contains
1:20:12
mainly female teachers these
days in grade school, who have
1:20:15
been trained by universities who
took money from big endowments.
1:20:23
Rockefeller, etc. Also Pritzker,
you know a lot, a lot of these
1:20:26
big companies, big
organizations, big family money
1:20:32
with and we've, we've talked
about this with notes attached
1:20:36
to it, okay, here's a billion
dollars, but it has to be gender
1:20:39
studies or something else in so
that's why you have all of this
1:20:43
education. The parent, the
teachers are, of course, they're
1:20:48
completely traumatized. They're
now the feedback loop. Oh, no,
1:20:51
the meds aren't working. The
meds are working Johnny's good,
1:20:54
little, little Mary's not doing
too well. So they're completely
1:20:58
wrapped up in it. And then we
have the political system. And
1:21:03
this is really the sickest part
of it, is the words that are
1:21:07
being used. And it reminded me
and I'm talking about gender
1:21:11
affirming care, it reminded me
of a joke that George Carlin
1:21:14
did, which I cannot tell the
joke, I'm not going to play the
1:21:16
joke. But the idea is how words
have the wit, the meaning of
1:21:22
words have been euphemisms have
been created. And the way George
1:21:28
Carlin tells us as well, you
know, back in the, in the First
1:21:32
World War, soldiers would come
home and they would be shell
1:21:36
shocked. And shell shock is, you
know, that's kind of what it was
1:21:38
because of the shells blowing up
all around them. They were
1:21:41
shocked. And they were in a
state of, you know, shell shock.
1:21:46
But then a generation later, it
was called battle fatigue. That
1:21:50
sounded much friendlier, didn't
it, then it became operational
1:21:53
exhaustion. And then after, I
think it was, I don't know if it
1:21:59
was after the Vietnam War. But
certainly, the most recent wars
1:22:03
that I've witnessed, it was post
traumatic stress disorder, which
1:22:06
has now just been shortened to
PTSD. And it sounds just doesn't
1:22:10
sound like what it really is. So
when you're talking about sex
1:22:14
change operations on children,
using drugs that are used to
1:22:19
medically castrate sex
offenders. And it's then called
1:22:25
gender affirming care by our
White House, by the
1:22:28
administration. There's
something very, very wrong and
1:22:31
we just have to realize that
this is bull. gender affirming
1:22:35
care is is a horrible term for,
for what is being done. So
1:22:42
there's this guy, Simon Adler,
and he is doing a film called
1:22:46
cut Daughters of the West. This
is from a podcast called macro
1:22:50
aggressions, and he is going to
explain I chop this down to two
1:22:54
minutes, but you can find the
whole podcast interview in the
1:22:57
show notes. And he explains how
this is really social contagion.
1:23:01
social contagion is if you've
had girls growing up, I grew up
1:23:05
with two sisters, my daughter, I
have two stepdaughters social
1:23:08
contagion is something that
happens with girls typically in
1:23:11
middle school. We've seen it
with tic disorder. And we saw
1:23:16
this 1012 years ago, John, we
saw what is all this, these
1:23:19
girls, you know, all sudden,
they got tics, there's no they
1:23:22
don't have Tourette's, that
social contagion, they pick it
1:23:25
up from one another. And this
guy really nails what's going
1:23:28
on. And the Kardashians,
luckily, are partially to blame.
1:23:31
So what
1:23:32
Unknown: we're looking at is
what's called a social
1:23:33
contagion. And I address that as
well in the film. But we do
1:23:36
actually have markers for the
conditions that created this
1:23:40
explosion. And it lines up with
three things, smartphones,
1:23:46
social media, and a massive
crash in teenage girls, mental
1:23:50
health, social media and
smartphones being given to girls
1:23:57
that are in middle school. What
happens in in the data in the
1:24:02
research is that the mental
health of girls went into a
1:24:07
crisis. We have preteens being
hospitalized for cutting
1:24:14
themselves at huge increases. I
think it's something like 160%.
1:24:21
And so you look at all of those
things. And then you look at the
1:24:24
fact that social media has been
a, a channel for gender ideology
1:24:31
to saturate the world of these
girls because of the
1:24:35
psychological makeup of girls
because they internalized their
1:24:39
stress. And because they rely
more on peer connections for
1:24:44
developing their identity and
connecting with other girls in
1:24:47
ways that boys don't. Then
social media when they're in
1:24:51
middle school, it caused them to
behave so differently and it
1:24:55
caused their sense of themselves
in the embodied sense of self
1:24:59
and their idea of their bodies
to be deeply warped. So they
1:25:03
started seeing all these girls
with filters, and the
1:25:06
celebrities on social media. And
it really, really deeply worked
1:25:09
them. And it worked them in two
ways. And we see this in the
1:25:13
research in my film, either they
go along with the Kim
1:25:16
Kardashians, and they start to
want to breast augmentations in
1:25:19
the labia pasties or they are
terrified by this hypersexual
1:25:24
image of womanhood. And as they
approach the precipice of
1:25:29
puberty, they decided that if
they can avoid puberty, they can
1:25:33
avoid becoming this hyper sexual
being. And they are told, when
1:25:39
they have those sensations in
those ideas, they are told, Oh,
1:25:43
that means that you're a boy.
1:25:47
Adam Curry: I think he's spot
on. And I remember I remember we
1:25:50
talked about on the show
whenever and when all the girls
1:25:52
are getting boob jobs, like what
is going on. And now and now
1:25:56
they've ended the same surgeons,
the same cosmetic surgeons are
1:26:00
now doing top surgery a add them
or remove them, those guys don't
1:26:03
care. They're ghouls. And it is
rampant. And parents better get
1:26:08
their shit together and start
talking about this and start
1:26:12
speaking up, and I have to give
props to Project Veritas. They
1:26:16
did just release an undercover
video with some almost decent
1:26:20
sound. It's funny, I got a note
from our knight, who was, you
1:26:26
know, the executive director of
Project. And he says, you know,
1:26:30
people are really mad at you
guys. So why to because you
1:26:34
know, you say we haven't done
anything. We haven't done
1:26:37
anything. And I said, Well,
that's exactly what we said, but
1:26:40
no one really remembers what
you've done. And, and so he sent
1:26:44
me a list. It's quite a long
list. And you know, people have
1:26:46
had to resign over stuff. But
the reason is, your audio has
1:26:50
always sucked so bad that
there's no way to remember it.
1:26:54
You always have to watch a
video. With subtitles. You have
1:26:57
to really do a lot of that as
you have a lot of energy to
1:27:01
consume.
1:27:02
John C Dvorak: It takes a lot of
work. Yes.
1:27:04
Adam Curry: So this is getting
better. We have actually helped
1:27:07
them with the audio. It's
getting better. And this is a
1:27:10
pretty short clip. But this kind
of accentuates what is happening
1:27:14
with teenage girls.
1:27:15
Unknown: This Project Veritas
investigation exposes a booming
1:27:19
business of transgender
surgeries, hormones and puberty
1:27:23
blockers for underage children
on its way to being a $1 billion
1:27:28
a year industry. At New York's
Mount Sinai Adolescent Health
1:27:31
Center. Hospital staff told us
they need young patients,
1:27:35
we need to look at patients we
are hands on with all of our
1:27:38
patients, adolescents, we deal
with the patients that come in
1:27:40
at 10 to come here about
ourselves. So we need to patient
1:27:44
years old coming by themselves
and loving. Yes. All over.
1:27:50
Here we are at the proud center
in Somerville, New Jersey.
1:27:53
That's Ashley Isaiah Harris,
health coordinator discussing
1:27:56
treatments for hypothetical 10
year old child.
1:28:00
So the youngest we've seen come
here that's known that they are
1:28:06
trans has been eight months.
1:28:08
Adam Curry: And this is the guy
that got a new host with floppy
1:28:12
hair. He's kind of interesting.
He might actually just take over
1:28:16
from O'Keefe and work fine if
they keep doing stuff like this
1:28:22
John C Dvorak: what gets me is
that if you listen to the left
1:28:26
and I'm by that I mean the
progressive Democrats they are
1:28:30
in complete denial about all
this of nobody's working on kids
1:28:34
that are eight nine. That's a
right wing lie. I know. I can't
1:28:40
quite figure out why you're so
adamant. Because
1:28:45
Adam Curry: with so it's
political now. Now we have the
1:28:48
Republicans are creating anti
trans transphobic legislation.
1:28:53
They're attacking children. That
is all politicized. That's why
1:28:58
it's gender affirming care over
here. So they're using it
1:29:02
completely for politics, because
these kids eventually will be
1:29:05
old enough to vote, but it's the
parents. The their target here I
1:29:11
believe, is the affluent white
liberal woman mom, who has
1:29:17
nothing to complain about. She's
got money, but it's a problem
1:29:21
because she has no use. You
know, she has no she's not a
1:29:25
victim of anything. So this is
where you get to Oh, but my, my
1:29:30
Oh, my daughter is trans. My son
is trans and it's accentuated by
1:29:34
the celebrities. Look at all the
celebrity affluent white women,
1:29:39
mainly, who have a trans child.
It's be it's like it's like when
1:29:43
Paris Hilton Hilton had a
chihuahua in her pocket book.
1:29:47
It's the same thing. And so they
this it's a great way to say
1:29:52
Republicans are horrible people.
They will not give children
1:29:57
care. They shorten it
1:29:59
John C Dvorak: forever. Are
these Republicans they won't
1:30:01
they won't sterilize their own
kids.
1:30:04
Adam Curry: So that's this
female side of it. What is
1:30:06
highly interesting is the male
side, which I think is the
1:30:10
distraction. I think these men
in sports. They do these things
1:30:15
for very different reasons.
Personally, having researched I
1:30:18
think a lot of it is because of
porn, and men become so
1:30:22
desensitized by porn that they
actually, there's no, I mean,
1:30:25
look, let's be honest about it.
Men are weird. Some men want to
1:30:28
have sex in diapers, okay, men
are very weird after they've
1:30:31
been. It's true. It's true. Men
do weird stuff. Young boys
1:30:38
particularly they're so
desensitized to sex through
1:30:42
porn, that they actually want to
have sex with a woman as a
1:30:46
woman. I mean, this is a real
thing that's happening. But more
1:30:50
concerning is the high amount of
transgender men to women in our
1:30:56
armed services. I didn't know
this statistic 21.4% of the
1:31:03
total transgender population in
the US in the US is estimated to
1:31:07
have served in the military 32%
of transgender individuals in
1:31:13
the US who are assigned assigned
male at birth, who had a penis,
1:31:17
or have served in the military
compared to 5.5 transgender
1:31:20
individuals who were assigned
female at birth. That's a lot of
1:31:24
military people out there who
can be maybe unstable even. And
1:31:30
this is not to take away from
people of trued true gender
1:31:34
dysphoria or dysmorphia. It
exists very small number very,
1:31:37
very small number. And then in
the NICU, Scott Adams. And I'm
1:31:43
sure he's doing it to prove a
point. But He better get to the
1:31:45
point, what percentage of people
who have transitioned D
1:31:49
transition? And then people are
like, Oh, 3% 5%, it's 83%,
1:31:54
according to the people who do
that work in the documentary
1:31:56
affirmation generation, but
Google says it's less than 1%.
1:32:01
So this, this is a this is a
real psychological operation.
1:32:05
And we're being distracted by
the likes of Dylan Mulvaney. And
1:32:08
everyone's like, Oh, yeah, well,
that marketing VP at bud got
1:32:11
fired. She's out. She's on
leave. Yeah, we won. We got the
1:32:14
anti woke one. No, no, no, we're
losing our children. And this is
1:32:18
where it comes from that mouse
thing. Just like Black Lives
1:32:21
Matter. Destroy the family. We
already got. We are destroyed
1:32:24
black families. Congratulations.
We don't need BLM anymore. We
1:32:27
get all the black men out of the
black families. Good job,
1:32:29
everybody. Go look at Chicago.
That's fatherless children on
1:32:33
the street. Right. Good job well
done. new mayor. He'll be fine.
1:32:38
And now we have to take away
womanhood so that even the
1:32:41
demographics will not be you
can't be on can't have children
1:32:45
only in the live Google kids.
That's what that's where you get
1:32:49
to create your children where it
is a serious situation. And
1:32:54
repeat repeat only in America is
not happening in other
1:32:59
countries. They have discovered
the countries that were leading
1:33:01
the UK, France and Netherlands
Denmark, Sweden. Oh, boys not so
1:33:06
good. We have done the research.
Long term not so good for these
1:33:10
people. So there you go. I thank
God that I am no longer a father
1:33:19
of a teen child, a teen
daughter, teen girl as bad news.
1:33:25
And that alone, the whole Biden
administration should be thrown
1:33:29
out every single time they say
gender affirming care. No, no,
1:33:34
it's a lie. This is serious
disgusting lie. And also if they
1:33:41
said that, hey, let's get rid of
tick tock for that reason I'd be
1:33:44
all for it. Because tick tock as
we know there Al Gore rhythm
1:33:49
works completely differently
from all the other Al Gore
1:33:52
rhythms and instead of creating
strife within your community of
1:33:58
trans they just pile it on you
I've seen I saw this with I saw
1:34:03
it with my own daughter I've
seen it with with girls and it
1:34:06
was you know the eating
disorders the cutting all of
1:34:09
this happen when the iPhone or
not the
1:34:12
John C Dvorak: iPhone the iPhone
is the business is the source of
1:34:16
all this evil 2007
1:34:18
Adam Curry: I think was probably
2008 2009 When it really rolled
1:34:22
out and they'll
1:34:23
John C Dvorak: it was it was it
was a remarkable when it came
1:34:26
out it
1:34:26
Adam Curry: was two does this
happen very quickly. It happens
1:34:28
so quick. Yeah, because it was
so cool. Yeah, and all the girls
1:34:32
at the time in middle school
were already having problems
1:34:35
with their T Mobile sidekick you
know because now they could text
1:34:38
each other rapidly and they were
you know, there was back
1:34:41
channeling a screw here screw
here but you know, teenage girls
1:34:44
work differently from teenage
boys. And there's it's it's
1:34:47
traumatizing sometimes for
teenage girls. So, then the
1:34:53
iPhone then you add some social
media. And then it just goes
1:34:58
walks through them all this Like
after the show, go to the mall.
1:35:02
Show me all the kids in
strollers with a screen in front
1:35:06
of them. Do you mind is what
they just did there? Chalk them
1:35:11
up to death
1:35:17
Okay, okay. Okay. I know Bob.
We're we are very accepting of
1:35:25
everybody. We really don't care
who you are where you're from
1:35:29
that's what no agenda nation has
always been about. But this this
1:35:33
is now we've gone too far. So
all right now let's do something
1:35:38
fun.
1:35:40
John C Dvorak: Well, there's a
strike in Canada. I think this
1:35:42
has not been reported as much
1:35:43
Unknown: as right in Canada.
Yeah, picket lines are up at
1:35:46
federal government MPs offices
across Canada, as federal
1:35:50
workers there go on strike. But
bargaining continues between the
1:35:54
government in Canada's largest
public service union. Dan Karpen
1:35:58
truck reports major disruptions
of government services are
1:36:00
expected some of those
1:36:01
service disruptions are already
being felt as countrywide about
1:36:04
250 picket lines have been set
up. Prime Minister Justin
1:36:08
Trudeau had urged the union the
Public Service Alliance of
1:36:10
Canada to return to the table
during a pause in the talks. It
1:36:14
represents 155,000 federal
government workers, but if that
1:36:18
number about 46,000 are
considered essential and not
1:36:21
part of the strike. The workers
have been without a contract for
1:36:24
almost two years. A statement
from the Treasury Board said the
1:36:27
two sides are still far apart on
key issues, higher wages and
1:36:31
better working conditions.
Should the strike continue it
1:36:34
could affect the tax season,
passport and immigration
1:36:36
processing and services
Canadians rely on to travel.
1:36:40
Adam Curry: Well, that's
interesting because there's also
1:36:41
a problem even though we don't
have a strike. Hold on a second.
1:36:46
I had this here. Yeah, we have
this
1:36:49
Unknown: tonight passport
problems posing a threat to
1:36:51
summer vacation.
1:36:53
Adam Curry: This is interesting.
So they they mark it up to a
1:36:55
strike in Canada passport
problems. Here. It's just I
1:36:59
don't know
1:36:59
Unknown: Rachel quarter owns
family is all booked for two
1:37:02
weeks in Europe. This is sort
1:37:03
of our last big family trip for
a while with my son going off to
1:37:09
college.
1:37:09
But the trip to Paris, Amsterdam
and Bruges is now in jeopardy
1:37:13
because of a massive backlog of
passport applications that can
1:37:17
stretch up to three months.
1:37:19
It's very frustrating because it
Why does it have to be so
1:37:23
convoluted I've already made
hotel reservations, train
1:37:27
reservations, everything planned
out.
1:37:32
Many passport offices are seeing
long lines ahead of what's
1:37:35
expected to be a record setting
summer travel season.
1:37:37
Adam Curry: And I'm emitted into
this. I still don't know why
1:37:40
this is happening. It's
implausible.
1:37:42
Unknown: Others are taking their
frustration to social media and
1:37:44
it's going to take another five
to seven weeks.
1:37:46
My advice on Thursday, while
lawmakers
1:37:49
take aim at the State
Department. It shouldn't take a
1:37:52
crisis and shouldn't get this
bad before we see action out of
1:37:55
Washington.
1:37:56
The State Department issued
nearly 22 million passports last
1:37:59
year a record high the agency
expects to break this year as
1:38:03
500,000 applications a week keep
rolling in despite an increase
1:38:08
in funding and more staff wait
times recently surged up to 13
1:38:12
weeks.
1:38:13
Adam Curry: I'm going to call it
they don't want people
1:38:15
traveling. Something's going on.
I'm sure this is happening in
1:38:20
every country. I'll bet you it's
happening every country that
1:38:23
John C Dvorak: being a person
people in the couple of
1:38:25
countries out there you should
check
1:38:26
Unknown: in Yeah, well, I'm
gonna have people check in.
1:38:30
Definitely.
1:38:31
John C Dvorak: It could be could
be something up.
1:38:33
Adam Curry: We got a note from a
producer in France with a very
1:38:35
interesting very interesting
analysis. You know, they
1:38:39
continue to riot and protest of
the following McCrone I have a
1:38:43
clip I'm not gonna play it.
Follow McCrone around the bang
1:38:46
and pots and pans. Police are
knocking heads. And we already
1:38:51
know it's not just 62 year olds
who are pissed or 61 year olds
1:38:56
who are pissed about not being
able to retire at 62 and having
1:38:59
to wait until 64. So boots on
the ground report from France.
1:39:03
I'm finally responding to the
call. This is our one French
1:39:06
listener John, the one since I
think everyone will benefit from
1:39:11
a glaring omission in the
coverage of French protests and
1:39:13
riots over the retirement age
background. I grew up in America
1:39:17
and spent over 20 years in
France, including a long time
1:39:20
both in Paris and deep in the
countryside. So of course, it's
1:39:22
not a real Frenchman. What
everyone outside of France seems
1:39:26
to not see in all the photos and
videos of the protests is that
1:39:30
the leaders are the CGT union.
Yes, I saw the flags CGT union,
1:39:35
which is by a longshot, the
biggest public communist force
1:39:40
in France. Likewise, when the
media reported that university
1:39:45
students are rising up,
everything I saw was banners
1:39:47
from Paris aid, which everyone
in the know knows is the
1:39:52
communist University in Paris.
Yeah, the people rising up are
1:39:56
the same ones who masked up told
people to take the back And
1:40:00
we're happy to stay home for
months on the government dime
1:40:03
and collect their pay during the
lockdowns. Notice that they're
1:40:07
protesting over raising the
retirement age by two years and
1:40:10
aren't making a stink over out
of control inflation, ever
1:40:14
increasing taxation, millions of
illegal immigrants collecting
1:40:17
welfare money, while more and
more French citizens are
1:40:20
retiring in near poverty
conditions. Another example of
1:40:23
what I see as a well honed
French technique of the French
1:40:26
government working with national
leaders of extreme movements to
1:40:30
channel people's justifiable
anger and frustration into
1:40:33
relatively unimportant fights
that benefit the system. This is
1:40:38
how it's done. People getting
all jacked and basically saying,
1:40:43
turn me into a communist please.
I never hear back and I never I
1:40:49
always thought that the new
world order would be George
1:40:51
Bush. And the Republicans would
be the new world order how wrong
1:40:56
I was. It's the commies, all of
them. commies, the reds, the
1:41:02
Reds man, the commies. We're
back with another Red Scare.
1:41:05
John C Dvorak: Well, one of the
things that's interesting is the
1:41:07
communist threat or the menace
the communist menace commie
1:41:11
communists? Yeah, is has been
kind of pushed into the
1:41:16
background it has been. It's
reorg Oh, it moves way back and
1:41:23
this and I said, Well, what can
we do now? Because you had this
1:41:25
has not been working. So they
lay low. And then they come back
1:41:30
with all kinds of the different
strategies and endued
1:41:32
unfortunately, the strategy
that's being played on us, which
1:41:35
is Maui Tran is a trans mount,
which is a no one can recognize
1:41:40
it. It's just like, oh, well,
no, no, I don't get it. They
1:41:44
mean well, as opposed to the
regular communists, which in
1:41:49
Europe is never gone away. So it
can come pop up anytime it wants
1:41:53
in Spain. Yep. And in France, in
particular, those are two states
1:41:59
that go communist, you know,
almost a drop of a hat. As
1:42:05
opposed to the Maoist stuff,
which is all new. This has never
1:42:09
really been done. Mouse card has
never been played on Westerners.
1:42:13
Adam Curry: Well, they're doing
a great job. But a man who I
1:42:15
think did a tremendous,
tremendous job. The UK has
1:42:18
become totally, totally
communist and shut up slave. I
1:42:23
mean, they're arresting people
all the time for saying stuff on
1:42:26
social media to arrest people.
Yeah, no, it's a great one guy
1:42:31
called his neighbor of
leprechaun, and they came over
1:42:34
and arrested him on social
media. This is fantastic.
1:42:41
John C Dvorak: He should stay
off social media.
1:42:44
Adam Curry: And with that, I'd
like to thank you for your
1:42:45
courage to hear in the morning
to you the man who puts the sea
1:42:47
in the carbon Godzilla, ladies
and gentlemen say hello to my
1:42:50
friend on the other day
1:42:56
John C Dvorak: well, in the
morning new Mr. Adam curry also,
1:43:00
in Moreno chips, he boots on the
ground, feet in the air subs in
1:43:03
the water all the games at
nighttime. In the
1:43:05
Adam Curry: morning Jude, the
troll room. We got tons of
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trolls hanging out the trolls
are there because they listen to
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Sundays. We have a room where
1:43:13
you know, I'm going to count and
count them right away the Oh
1:43:20
2306. Nice. Good troll count.
That's good, isn't it for Sunday
1:43:26
John C Dvorak: 2306 22. So 2250s
are probably the median.
1:43:32
Adam Curry: All right, so we're
knocking it out of the park.
1:43:35
John C Dvorak: So I don't know
about you knocking it
1:43:39
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Other than then they work out a
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telling you. So we want to thank
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the artists for episode 1548. We
titled that the dangle up second
1:45:44
time in a row, I think was it
not? It? Was it two in a row do
1:45:49
we had no we had one in between?
That's right. No, no, no, you
1:45:52
came back capitalist agenda.
This was our 420 show. So people
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dollars. Fantastic promotion. We
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1:46:09
That's the weirdest thing about
it. Yeah, God bless you. And he
1:46:14
did a beautiful New World Order
logo with no agenda, the all
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seeing eye with weed leaves for
eyelashes, little puffs of weed
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smoke through and a 33 It's
almost a challenge coin worthy
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Novus Ordo hilarium, which is
New World laughter I guess. Is
1:46:36
that what it means Novus Ordo?
hilarium thinking means new
1:46:40
world, new world laughter.
1:46:42
John C Dvorak: Are they means
force? Force? Okay. We love Yes.
1:46:46
And when I saw this piece, I
really liked it from the
1:46:49
beginning. And I said, I guess
Paul couture is gonna get
1:46:52
another award. And it was
because it has Paul couture
1:46:55
written all over it. Yeah. But
yet,
1:46:59
Unknown: it was not. It was
1:47:00
John C Dvorak: not Paul couture
tour tour.
1:47:04
Adam Curry: But and so no agenda
art generators, where you can
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see all the art that the artists
submit. It is a competition.
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We're very honest about our
choices. We explain why we
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choose something in this case,
we thought it was a Paul Couture
1:47:16
piece. So that's why we chose
it. I guess.
1:47:18
John C Dvorak: I think Paul's up
for another. Well, there it is.
1:47:20
I'll just use oh, wait a minute.
1:47:24
Adam Curry: Let me see that. We
had a couple of those.
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Definitely some interesting
stuff. Why don't have to go to
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the second page here. Since it
was for 20. We had a lot of
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different weeds stuff.
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John C Dvorak: I liked the one
with Biden weed smoke,
1:47:39
Adam Curry: had mentioned that
Yeah, with Kamala Harris is the
1:47:41
cop behind him in the White
House. Yeah, yeah. But it was
1:47:44
just so sick of that wasn't
gonna make it. We had a lot of
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episode number ones, which, you
know, if you put your episode
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number on it, you're not not
always guaranteed to get chosen.
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We had things that were just not
scare a manga Francisco scare
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monger. He has a very particular
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a when he's just doing a whole
bunch, but that style doesn't
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always work. Bob Marley wasn't
gonna We're by the way using Bob
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Marley. You can actually get
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mess around with Bob Marley
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kind of funny. It's at the
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one. I don't know if there was
that up there. When we were
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looking at the Oh yeah,
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John C Dvorak: I saw I was the
cheesecake. Yeah, it's not a bad
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cheesecake. No, but it was you
know, wasn't related to the
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show. It wasn't dynamite. No,
the dynamite piece was
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Adam Curry: it when we take it
just one that we both chuckled
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at Nikko Symes unplugged Joe, I
thought it was kind of funny.
1:48:47
The back of the president's head
with a plug being pulled out of
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the saw get it out of a socket.
Dangle ops, which was the title
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that wasn't a great who did
that? That was mountain J.
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Amadis. Yeah,
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John C Dvorak: we didn't discuss
this a lot. The Dangle ops. No,
1:49:04
no, no, we didn't discuss the
art that much. Because this
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piece was so good. It was good.
1:49:08
Adam Curry: We just went
straight for the jugular. You're
1:49:10
right. Thank you very much
artists, we appreciate all the
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work you do always forever.
There are now let me count them.
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Let me say we've had 1500. And
this would be the 49th episode
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29,577 pieces of art that I
mean, that is it is amazing. I
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always pray that someone is
archiving this entire site. I
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have a version of an archive. I
think you have a version of an
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archive. We're just hoping for
Paul couture who runs it has a
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good archive because it is I
mean, this is history.
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John C Dvorak: And there's
actually a previous site to this
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that still has probably a few
1000 pieces that are no idea
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lost to history have no idea
where that went. And finally
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remember that error they believe
it's possible that the Wayback
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you have a following of air
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air traffic.
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John C Dvorak: Are they Is it a
following more than one?
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Adam Curry: I think so. Yeah,
probably anything air traffic
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have not heard that.
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John C Dvorak: Well let's have a
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this note doesn't garner any
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April 23 is my birthday. And we
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shows ago I requested someone to
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and one of the producers
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a new jingle called the short
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a homemade example which is
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the show. But you can play it if
you want to. I saw it linked. I
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Formula is this. We go out yet
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we will have a second donation
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up reports. John, you won from
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the good. I mean, we had so many
for 20 meetups, that people
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reported from all over the
world. We also have a short
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They sent us a five version five
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goodness, where are we?
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John C Dvorak: Well, let's start
with this interesting. You know,
2:03:27
you're talking about apps and
the phone and mobile and all
2:03:31
this stuff. Yeah. Well, we have
a new app. The US government, of
2:03:35
course has put this new app out.
Have you heard about the title
2:03:38
42 app? No, no, I guess Yeah.
All the immigrants coming in
2:03:43
have to use this app. And of
course, it doesn't work
2:03:46
Adam Curry: web Is this the one
they get that's pre installed on
2:03:50
the phone that they get with
their credit with their debit
2:03:52
card that they get.
2:03:53
John C Dvorak: I don't know if
it's pre installed or not, but
2:03:55
they do have it. Okay, but
here's the story behind it. This
2:04:00
is a title 42 app, the binary
you're
2:04:02
Unknown: gonna stration is using
a cell phone app as the main
2:04:05
Porter for migrants seeking
asylum at the US Mexico border.
2:04:09
The app was first rolled out in
January, but it's been plagued
2:04:12
with glitches. It's ALi Rogen
tells us that it's forcing 10s
2:04:17
of 1000s of people to compete
daily for a limited number of
2:04:21
appointments
2:04:21
since March 2020. A public
health policy called Title 42
2:04:25
has allowed border agents to
expel migrants, even those who
2:04:29
are seeking asylum. But that
policy ends on May 11. And the
2:04:32
Customs and Border Patrol app
could become even more
2:04:35
essential. Here to discuss this
Wall Street Journal immigration
2:04:38
reporter Michelle Hackman
Michelle, thank you so much for
2:04:41
joining us. Let's remind
everybody first How does title
2:04:45
42 work? And how does this app
fit in with the title 42
2:04:49
process?
2:04:50
So title 42 is a policy that
because of public health
2:04:54
reasons, allows the government
to sort of they call it
2:04:57
expelling migrants back to
Mexico or their home. countries
2:05:00
on the risk that they might
spread COVID. But the really key
2:05:03
point here is that it prevents
the migrants, the asylum seekers
2:05:07
from even asking for asylum.
Under normal circumstances, if
2:05:10
you ask for asylum, they cannot
kick you out of the country. I
2:05:13
mean, that's how asylum law
works.
2:05:15
And then this new system that is
replacing title 42, how does it
2:05:19
work? And then how does this app
fit into that?
2:05:22
Yeah, so this app,
2:05:24
wow, what is this NPR?
2:05:29
John C Dvorak: No, this PBS?
2:05:31
Unknown: Yeah. And then this new
system that is replacing title
2:05:34
42? How does it work? And then
how does this app fit into that?
2:05:39
Yeah, so this app, it's called
CBP, one, it's actually been
2:05:43
introduced already, even while
title 42 is still in place. And
2:05:47
the way it works is that if
you're an asylum seeker, you
2:05:50
essentially can't ask for asylum
if you cross the border
2:05:53
illegally, which is the way that
most people try. And so instead,
2:05:56
the government is saying use
this app, book an appointment,
2:06:00
you can come to illegal trade,
ask for asylum, and we'll take
2:06:03
you the only issue is there are
just way fewer appointments than
2:06:06
there are people who want them.
2:06:07
Adam Curry: Oh, man, okay, let
me get this straight. So we've
2:06:10
been told for years, I'm going
to say up seven, eight years,
2:06:14
that you can only request asylum
and asylum. Asylum is a good
2:06:21
thing. There's lots of people
who need asylum, they need
2:06:23
asylum because they're being
persecuted in their home
2:06:25
country, etc. Okay, fine. The
only way you can do it is if you
2:06:29
go to a legal point of entry
where asylum can be requested.
2:06:35
So because so many people are
being bussed in by the likes of
2:06:39
Soros and the UN, the UN
literally busing people to the
2:06:43
border to the US border, to
illegal points of entry for
2:06:50
where you cannot request asylum.
They've now just come up with an
2:06:53
app and said, well, as long as
you use the app and you fill it
2:06:56
out, then you basically have a
legal view of legally requested
2:07:01
asylum. Who cares if there's an
appointment, you get let in, you
2:07:04
get an appointment, when it's
up, your app will ping you. But
2:07:07
you now have legally requested
asylum because of this app.
2:07:12
John C Dvorak: Something like
that, except for one small
2:07:15
issue,
2:07:15
Unknown: the app doesn't work.
Exactly.
2:07:19
John C Dvorak: Is that clip to?
Yeah, pretty much.
2:07:22
Unknown: And let's talk about
what problem exactly this app is
2:07:25
trying to fix.
2:07:26
The Biden administration, you
know, is taking, I would say, a
2:07:29
slightly different approach from
the Trump administration where,
2:07:32
like the Trump administration,
they're saying, we really don't
2:07:35
want you to cross illegally, you
know, it's unsafe for everyone
2:07:38
involved, it creates chaos. It
doesn't allow us to screen who's
2:07:41
entering our country. But unlike
Trump, they're saying to try to
2:07:45
convince people to not come
illegally, you have to give them
2:07:47
another option. So this is that
other option at ports of entry.
2:07:51
And there are a couple other
things who who said, they have
2:07:54
to do that when just
2:07:55
to try to convince people to not
come illegally, you have to give
2:07:58
them another
2:07:58
was at the bite who said I want
to use it that it creates
2:08:01
chaos. It doesn't allow us to
screen who is entering our
2:08:04
country. But unlike Trump,
they're saying to try to
2:08:07
convince people to not come
illegally, you have to give them
2:08:09
another option. Just
2:08:10
Adam Curry: just the
administration just said that
2:08:12
they just made up a new rule
like Oh, you gotta give him an
2:08:15
option. Yeah. Oh, this is,
before we continue with this
2:08:19
clip, I want to remind
everybody, according to the
2:08:21
former New York banker, the only
reason America wins is because
2:08:25
we have a growing population.
Everyone knows China will not
2:08:30
win because they're in decline,
the EU is totally in decline.
2:08:33
And as they sterilize our girls
castrate our boys, they are
2:08:38
making sure that the bankers
will win, they will win because
2:08:42
of this constant flow of human
bodies into our country.
2:08:46
Unknown: So this is that other
option at ports of entry.
2:08:49
And there are a couple other
things that the Biden
2:08:51
administration is trying,
they've opened up some
2:08:53
additional legal pathways. Can
you talk about those, so they're
2:08:56
trying this totally new idea
that that is sort of a novel
2:09:02
legal theory where they're
saying, you know, even if you
2:09:05
don't qualify for a visa, and
you're from a certain set of
2:09:08
countries, where you're fleeing
from authoritarianism, say, you
2:09:11
know, Venezuela or Cuba, you can
apply to come to the US. As long
2:09:16
as you have a sponsor who will
take you will let you fly here
2:09:19
illegally to the city of your
choice. Let's say you want to go
2:09:21
to Chicago. And we'll give you a
legal permit to be here for two
2:09:25
years at work. So it's sort of
an incentive, because it's a way
2:09:28
better situation than crossing
the border and immediately being
2:09:32
put in immigration court. You
were
2:09:33
recently at the border where
people are using this app to
2:09:37
apply for these appointments.
How is it working? What are some
2:09:40
of the problems that folks are
facing? And also, what is life
2:09:43
like for people on that side of
the border?
2:09:45
It's interesting, we haven't
actually tried using a mobile
2:09:48
app to do border management
before. And like any other app
2:09:52
that you download on your phone,
it's not perfect, you know,
2:09:55
people every day in the morning
they log on to try to get an
2:09:59
appointment their new point.
mints made available every day,
2:10:01
let's say at about 9am. But
there's so many people trying at
2:10:05
the same time that the app
stalls, you know, it goes gray
2:10:08
or it gives you a 504 error.
Sometimes, you know, this is a
2:10:11
big issue that the government's
been trying to solve. There are
2:10:13
a lot of migrants, let's say
from Haiti who have darker
2:10:15
facial complexions. And you have
to take a picture to prove it's
2:10:19
you before you get your
appointment. And it struggles I
2:10:21
made it with those darker
complexions that sometimes
2:10:24
doesn't recognize people's
faces.
2:10:27
John C Dvorak: Okay, okay. So
first and solve the years ago,
2:10:30
but they can't seem to solve it
with their you can I like to
2:10:33
know what this app cost to
develop?
2:10:36
Adam Curry: Oh, I shudder to
think of that. But I like the it
2:10:39
gives the 504 error. Does this
nitwit even know what a 504
2:10:44
errors that means? The server is
timing out because it's shite.
2:10:49
That means your server just
isn't responding. It's not a 404
2:10:53
that the page doesn't exist a
504 Gateway timeout error, which
2:10:56
means it's not the server is not
responding.
2:10:59
John C Dvorak: She's not
2:11:00
Unknown: gonna go into that. But
the Cavalier is less like other
2:11:04
apps. He goes Greg
2:11:06
John C Dvorak: Yeah, that's
true. It's very cavalier the way
2:11:09
she spoke of the other apps but
it really there's plenty of apps
2:11:12
that work fine
2:11:13
Adam Curry: it accentuates
exactly what I said. Oh, just
2:11:16
get a ticket. You can come in
here you get a work visa for two
2:11:20
years.
2:11:22
John C Dvorak: man Yeah, we know
how that goes. Man. It's been
2:11:27
two years learning English and
then you're good to go to go
2:11:30
Yeah.
2:11:31
Unknown: Wow. Get a
2:11:33
John C Dvorak: driver's license
in California no problem you
2:11:39
know, it is replenishing our
stock especially with the our
2:11:42
own people refuse yes to have
chill, reproduce. Yeah, our
2:11:46
stock or sterilizing your kids.
2:11:50
Adam Curry: As early as your
kids, it's what the bankers
2:11:52
want. And then
2:11:53
John C Dvorak: you can you can
pay their medical bills for the
2:11:56
rest of your life. Man,
2:11:59
Unknown: that's Java. Okay. All
right. Beautiful.
2:12:05
John C Dvorak: It's just
beautiful.
2:12:06
Adam Curry: It's beautiful.
Alright, a couple things we have
2:12:08
different to talk about. We
haven't talked about the leaker
2:12:12
denial. Yes,
2:12:12
John C Dvorak: we do have to
talk well, I think we also need
2:12:16
to talk about the mike Morel oh
2:12:18
Adam Curry: no yeah, that flows
the leaker flows into Mike
2:12:21
morale. It's all it's all either
the lack of clips I have some
2:12:26
John C Dvorak: I have some is
good because the lack of clips
2:12:29
on the mainstream media is
really sketchy. For the for the
2:12:34
mike morale stuff. It's a
complete news blackout which
2:12:37
they blacked it out which Okay,
so well, you're better off
2:12:41
reading into newsletter dead
last newsletter. All I wrote
2:12:44
about was the mike Morales.
Let's
2:12:46
Adam Curry: let's do Mike
Moreau. Let's just do Mike where
2:12:48
I want to do Mike morale. So,
first of all, oh, boy, I sound
2:12:59
like Elon Musk.
2:13:00
John C Dvorak: You do the same
thing.
2:13:04
Adam Curry: I'm gonna wait. Let
me just get into so we thought
2:13:07
that this was a pure takedown of
Joe Biden. It seems that because
2:13:13
the mike Morel thing is kind of
being hushed up. Maybe it's a
2:13:16
little more than that. What it
seems to me as we understand the
2:13:21
story of Mike Morel when the
Hunter Biden laptop story broke
2:13:26
quite swiftly there were 50. You
it. It'd be interesting to play
2:13:32
one of those clips. Let me see
50 Intel. I wonder if we have
2:13:38
hot
2:13:38
John C Dvorak: shots like
Michael Hayden
2:13:41
Unknown: intil. Laptop, I wonder
what those clips were taught
2:13:45
were titled, onto your laptop.
2:13:50
John C Dvorak: While you're
Incorporated, mostly in news
2:13:52
coverage,
2:13:53
Adam Curry: I guess they were so
there were 50 intelligence
2:13:58
leaders
2:13:59
John C Dvorak: 50 Plus, yeah,
yeah.
2:14:00
Adam Curry: Who all signed this
letter. And this letter all is
2:14:03
clear. It's right. It has all
the hallmarks of Russian
2:14:06
disinformation, all the
hallmarks of Russian
2:14:08
disinformation. Yeah, we learned
from the Senate Intelligence
2:14:11
Committee, which of course is
now run by Republicans. No, it's
2:14:16
not. No the Senate Senate you're
right, the Senate but it's the
2:14:20
it's to two Republicans on the
Senate committee who have
2:14:24
unleashed this information.
Yeah, you can still do that.
2:14:28
Hold on a second. I think I have
a mini cut. This is what was
2:14:31
happening and this is from the
date here is March of 2022.
2:14:39
Unknown: Hunter Biden this
laptop that intelligence
2:14:42
officials have warned or is
likely Russian disinformation.
2:14:45
I get pretty fired up about how
this works because I mean, if
2:14:48
the New York Post tells you your
mom loves you, you should check
2:14:51
it out. We are not talking about
fully reliable sources here
2:14:54
feels like a repeat from last
cycle. It's the you know, but
2:14:59
her emails again And it's kind
of ridiculous featuring all the
2:15:02
usual suspects Hunter Biden
mysterious emails Ukrainian
2:15:06
businessman that that
2:15:07
Adam Curry: that that hold on we
have found another clip
2:15:10
incriminating
2:15:11
Unknown: evidence allegedly
found on a laptop belonging to
2:15:14
Biden
2:15:15
some sort of Russian
disinformation
2:15:18
campaign One
2:15:19
John C Dvorak: eternity later
Biden emails finally
2:15:22
authenticated according to The
New York Times is rewinds a lie
2:15:29
altered or
2:15:30
Unknown: fake unverified emails
2:15:31
that story did not quite land
due to the lack of verification
2:15:36
what can be verified the laptop
because it can't be verified we
2:15:40
got to report this this is the
one of the most power because
2:15:43
families in Washington a
journalist okay you guys will
2:15:47
start doing that verify no we're
not going to do your work for
2:15:50
you journalists
2:15:55
for all we know these emails are
made up
2:15:57
not really stories just pure
distractions no serious
2:16:00
journalists should fall for it
2:16:03
down if this is verified bottom
line is we cannot confirm the
2:16:07
story experts
2:16:07
say the emails cannot be
authenticated
2:16:10
the mainstream media is not
reporting on the story because
2:16:13
we can authenticate this
material the Hunter Biden laptop
2:16:17
material is genuine genuine
genuine This is a classic
2:16:21
example of the right wing media
she just lacks credibility the
2:16:25
fact that it appeared in the New
York Post
2:16:27
The only place low enough to put
this stuff in bastard story in
2:16:30
print obvious disinformation it
is so obviously the washing
2:16:34
operation so
2:16:35
obviously this information and
so obviously a Russian plot tell
2:16:39
me why it's so obviously a
Russian plot it's
2:16:43
just classic textbook of Soviet
Russian tradecraft at war.
2:16:47
Right exactly. I'm this is very
classic Russian disinformation.
2:16:51
This
2:16:51
Adam Curry: is so good to have
this in retrospect. This is your
2:16:56
no agenda show by the way. Okay,
so when asked you, best podcast
2:17:02
and universities in the leaked
documents look around for a
2:17:05
wrinkled piece of paper. So
yeah, that was what the media
2:17:09
was doing. Just incessantly
nonstop. Russian disinformation
2:17:13
can't be verified can't be
authenticated. And now it turns
2:17:17
out Oh, and
2:17:17
John C Dvorak: by the way, let's
let's stop for a second. You and
2:17:20
I both had gotten various copies
of some of the files from this
2:17:24
thing. Oh, yeah. It was you
didn't need to verify it was
2:17:28
Hunter Biden mostly videos?
Yeah. Of him cavorting with
2:17:32
these hookers. And and
masturbating on camera,
2:17:38
Unknown: sex workers, jobs, sex
workers.
2:17:41
John C Dvorak: It was sexual
workers. He was any smoking
2:17:46
crack, and he, his teeth rotted
out? And I mean, it went and
2:17:51
then there's all these
documents, there was tons of
2:17:53
emails, and it was and it all
can't be verified. What do you
2:17:56
need to verify what specifically
on this laptop on these and
2:18:02
meanwhile they Chris, they
slammed Giuliani and Giuliani
2:18:06
was completely immoral and
2:18:09
Adam Curry: they were going to
arrest him, they're going to
2:18:10
arrest him. And you see now that
BuzzFeed who were part of you
2:18:17
know, all of this very, very,
especially with the PP tape and
2:18:21
all that and the dossier and all
the against Trump, they're now
2:18:25
basically out of business. Yeah,
well, there's no there's no
2:18:28
news. There's no BuzzFeed fired
everybody.
2:18:31
John C Dvorak: They were taken
off the last budget, I guess
2:18:33
it'd be CIA
2:18:36
Adam Curry: was done. So okay,
so now we learned from the
2:18:39
Senate Intel Committee, that
Mike morale testified behind
2:18:43
closed doors. He said, Well, you
know, Anthony Blinken asked me
2:18:47
to write this up. And I did and
you know why he did? Of course,
2:18:51
because he foolishly thought
that he would become CIA
2:18:56
director. That's obvious.
2:18:58
John C Dvorak: Oh, yeah. And
he's really obvious.
2:19:00
Adam Curry: And he even says,
Well, you know, I wanted Biden
2:19:04
to win so that's why I wrote
this up. Everybody signed on all
2:19:07
these all the clapper Brennan,
all these guys. A horrible the
2:19:13
media. That's actually a four
minute megakat only played a
2:19:17
minute and a half. The media
just going on and on and on
2:19:20
about can't be true. It's not
true. Can't be verified. And you
2:19:24
know, we were able to verify it
easily, very easily. You were
2:19:28
verified a lot of things.
Apparently. So now. Now, as we
2:19:35
say, The dolls are dancing in
the old country. The Papa Papa
2:19:39
is your sign on a dancer.
2:19:40
Unknown: Tonight the White House
responding to claims from an
2:19:43
anonymous whistleblower,
insisting President Biden has
2:19:46
upheld his commitment to let the
Justice Department handled the
2:19:49
investigation into his son
Hunter, free from any political
2:19:53
interference. So
2:19:54
Adam Curry: this is now we have
two stories going on at the same
2:19:56
time. One is a whistleblower
from the IRS Who says hey, I'm
2:20:00
willing to testify that that
none of Hunter Biden's crimes,
2:20:06
alleged crimes were
investigated. In fact, I was
2:20:09
told not to investigate the
insinuation is that Attorney
2:20:12
General garland himself has
something to do with that, and
2:20:15
it flows over into this letter
from Mike Morel.
2:20:18
Unknown: The whistleblower
claims that preferential
2:20:20
treatment and politics are
improperly infecting decisions
2:20:24
and protocols in the
investigation. The person who
2:20:27
sources described as a senior
IRS agent directly involved in
2:20:31
Hunter Biden's case says he has
evidence including emails and
2:20:34
other communication, but that he
won't reveal it until he gets
2:20:37
federal whistleblower
protections.
2:20:39
He feels like some of the steps
in the investigation have been
2:20:42
compromised by political
motivations and other things
2:20:46
like conflicts of interest.
2:20:47
The Justice Department has been
investigating Hunter Biden since
2:20:50
2018, focusing on whether he
properly paid taxes and whether
2:20:54
he made a false statement when
purchasing a gun. The US
2:20:57
Attorney in charge of the case
was appointed by former
2:20:59
President Trump and kept in
place by Attorney General
2:21:03
Merrick Garland. As proof he
would not be meddling in the
2:21:06
investigation.
2:21:06
I have pledged not to interfere
with that investigation and
2:21:10
I have carried on my pledge.
2:21:13
Today on Capitol Hill members of
both parties say they're taking
2:21:16
the whistleblower claim
seriously.
2:21:18
Anyone who steps forward
identifies themselves in a
2:21:21
whistleblower capacity is doing
it some risk politically or
2:21:25
personally. And so I take it
seriously. They don't always pan
2:21:29
out to be something worthwhile,
but we should take them
2:21:33
seriously.
2:21:34
Adam Curry: Yeah, there's a lot
of downplaying? Well, you know,
2:21:36
it might not be what we love to
do. Yeah. So unbeknownst to us,
2:21:41
after nine years, Mike Morrell
left CBS a month ago. Isn't that
2:21:49
convenience. And when you hear
his sign off from the mike Morel
2:21:54
podcast, it has a has a name,
which I think now I'm kind of
2:21:59
pissed, but I was not subscribed
to this podcast and listening
2:22:02
all the time. Here's his sign
off. Before we sign
2:22:06
Unknown: off this week. I want
to share some important news.
2:22:09
After nine terrific years, I've
recently decided to take a step
2:22:14
back and leave CBS News Now. Do
you think he was asked to step
2:22:19
back, John?
2:22:22
Adam Curry: Or did you have a
better gig somewhere than a
2:22:24
podcast?
2:22:27
John C Dvorak: Well, obviously,
you know, CBS News is connected.
2:22:32
Yeah, he was given the
opportunity to do something else
2:22:35
under conditions because he's
gonna go back into, you know,