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John C Dvorak: boots on the
ground baby.
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Adam Curry: Adam curry Jhansi
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from the heart of the Texas hill
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number six in the morning
everybody I'm Adam curry
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John C Dvorak: in from Northern
Silicon Valley, where we're all
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congratulating Adam on his six
Tony nominations. I'm John C.
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Dvorak.
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Adam Curry: What is this? What
what Tony nomina you know, what
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are you talking about? Well,
ever
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John C Dvorak: since you retired
the MO facts show that the
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Broadway play ain't no mo has
gotten six Tony nominations
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Adam Curry: and the show was not
retired yet. We have nine more
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episodes.
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John C Dvorak: Oh eight no mo is
something else. I knew you
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didn't know this guy Jordan
eight Cooper it seems unlikely
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Adam Curry: you actually know
what the Tony nominations are
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the Chinese the Chinese Chinese
the Chinese the Chinese I do. Is
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any any spectacular nominations
except the ain't no mo anything
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else? Okay. No mo I think musics
1:15
John C Dvorak: the big one I
guess there's Some Like It Hot
1:17
is going to be the take away a
lot of awards. Have
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Adam Curry: you seen any of
these? Any of them? I haven't
1:21
John C Dvorak: been in New York
to did last season, so I didn't
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see any of them. i Who wants to
go to New York by got me
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standing in the subway tracks.
1:32
Adam Curry: Tina's going to New
York to visit with her daughter
1:35
from Mother's Day.
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John C Dvorak: Oh, that should
be rich.
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Unknown: That's supposed to me.
1:43
Adam Curry: I don't really wanna
know. I don't know. But to be
1:45
honest, she's a little you know,
she's a little a little anxious
1:48
about it. By the way as an adult
so the most for life in Chicago.
1:52
Because what do you what do you
see about New York? Nothing but
1:55
exactly what you said crap.
That's true. People. You know,
2:00
John C Dvorak: Chicago, I become
minuses. You must be joining the
2:04
two cities sister cities. Yeah.
Yeah. Now this is not like a
2:08
problem. It's you know, you just
go there and you just put up
2:11
with it.
2:12
Unknown: I know. I
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John C Dvorak: we think it's
like the
2:13
Adam Curry: old days. We got
knights everywhere, looking out
2:16
for Meigs, all these all the all
the gangsters of New York are
2:20
looking out for wishes while
Dominican gangsters everybody.
2:25
No agenda. No agenda. Nation is
badass. got great people. I had
2:31
a wedding yesterday. So
unfortunately, I couldn't see we
2:33
got married again. I know. A
friend of ours daughter got
2:38
married. And so unfortunately, I
couldn't watch all of the
2:42
fabulous Proceedings of the
coronation. Which I know it was
2:47
a lifetime event. There was
nothing to record but I do have
2:51
some comments. Oh, I
2:52
John C Dvorak: have some clips
actually. Okay, we use our
2:55
clips. All my comment is
basically they had all these
2:58
marching soldiers and the guys
who did read costumes and the
3:01
big hairy hats and regular
soldiers. The Harrier were all
3:06
out of step and out of line and
you're expected to be that I saw
3:10
some of the things was
unbelievably bad. I mean, I was
3:14
like I flipped over from, you
know, China TV where they're
3:17
just lockstep perfect to these
guys wandering around. It was
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just pathetic.
3:23
Adam Curry: I don't know if it
was that bad. I did notice a
3:26
couple of guys out pretty bad. I
have a highlight supercut
3:32
Unknown: God of compassion and
whose son was sent not to be
3:38
served but to serve.
3:42
God save the King
3:55
William, Prince of Wales,
pledged my loyalty to you, and
3:59
faith and truth I will bear on
to you as your lead man of life
4:03
and limb. So help me God
4:09
received this ring, a symbol of
royal dignity and a sign of the
4:14
covenant Swan this day.
4:27
Drunks to die may be a blessing
to all the children of every
4:32
faith and belief that together
we may discover the ways of
4:38
gentleness and be led into the
paths of peace.
4:44
Adam Curry: So people kept
sending me this this one
4:47
particular clip and I don't know
if it's fake or or if we're just
4:54
hearing it wrong. Listen to
this. This is when their work
4:57
walking into Westminster Abbey
into the into the church Shut
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up What do you hear them
singing?
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John C Dvorak: I can understand
a word of it.
5:26
Adam Curry: Well I mean, it
seems it seems that it must be
5:33
singing. I like vagina Camilla
it that can't be right. But if
5:38
you if you
5:39
John C Dvorak: think it can't be
right,
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Adam Curry: but now that you've
heard it, you can't unhear it.
5:43
That's the point.
5:45
John C Dvorak: Okay, play it
again.
5:47
Adam Curry: I'm playing it
directly from a YouTube because
5:49
I forgot the clip and just
remembered. I liked the preamble
5:52
was great though. The dynamite
band. Here we go
6:09
someone's got to set a straight
on what the room
6:10
John C Dvorak: looks like
silence Regina. I don't hear the
6:13
V.
6:14
Adam Curry: Well, when the words
are on the screen, your brain
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goes Oh, yeah,
6:17
John C Dvorak: well, yeah, the
words are on the screen.
6:21
Adam Curry: By us vagina, I
don't know. I'd like to know is
6:26
I'm sure it's Latin or something
that we that just our ears
6:29
aren't attuned
6:30
John C Dvorak: to this cute
tote. To catch. So
6:33
Adam Curry: you know, of course,
the M five M was out in droves.
6:37
They ended up did ABC free trip?
Well, I don't know if all of
6:42
them were actually out there at
all. You have to turn your
6:44
speakers down just a little
because people are complaining
6:46
about it now. Because hey,
people stop complaining.
6:51
Unknown: The coronation concert
takes place in Windsor. It's
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going to be right outside the
castle. There's going to be a
6:55
Union Jack shaped stage and some
big stars performing. No doubt
7:04
about it. Lionel Richie will be
dancing this weekend. A longtime
7:08
friend of King Charles and
Chairman for the global.
7:10
Adam Curry: Lionel Richie.
Anybody can get him for your
7:13
birthday. Yeah, I think he
charges 200 grand. But you know,
7:17
there's lots of people get
Lionel Richie. Get him. I
7:20
John C Dvorak: can't afford
that.
7:21
Adam Curry: I know. But it's not
like oh, this is so special.
7:24
Lionel Richie is performing at
the at the coronation, who he
7:27
never performs. No, he's
everywhere. Every weekend. The
7:31
guy just rakes it in. Right? He
doesn't like 45 minutes. Now he
7:36
does dancing on the ceiling and
the pillow and then you know
7:39
he's good to go. And then his
dancing on the ceiling again.
7:42
And there was dancing in the
aisles. It's beautiful. And
7:44
Chairman
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Unknown: for the milk it Yes. Oh
good on
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ambassadors of the Prince's
Trust is set to perform center
7:50
stage on
7:51
Adam Curry: when Lionel Richie
was cheating on his wife and she
7:53
found out she walked in on him
and then she beat him naked all
7:57
the way down the street.
7:59
John C Dvorak: And when that
story I forgot about I
8:03
Adam Curry: just wanted to give
everyone that visual for a
8:04
moment someday. This is history.
We've known each other for a
8:08
very long time. Richie is also
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Unknown: part of the exclusive
guestlist to the coronation at
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Westminster Abbey.
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I plan on showing I'm just going
to walk down and every once in a
8:18
while they'll tell me Mr. Richie
just get out of the aisle. The
8:21
King has. I mean, this is just a
moment. The parents have
8:26
announced a few later editions.
Get out of the aisle Richie
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Cruz, Nicole Scherzinger. Oh Tom
Cruise wrote a few later
8:35
editions with Tom Cruise.
8:38
John C Dvorak: Tom Cruise in his
busy busy schedule. He can go
8:41
welcome Joe Biden can't go no, I
8:42
Adam Curry: have an answer for
that
8:43
Unknown: later editions with Tom
Cruise. Nicole Scherzinger we've
8:48
got Winnie the Pooh joining zone
slash China Beijing ping. We've
8:53
got Winnie the Pooh joining for
his own skates is almost
8:56
reminiscent of some of those
magic moments we saw during the
8:59
Platinum Jubilee. I think
Charles is hoping that it'll
9:02
bring some magic to his moment
too.
9:05
Adam Curry: Dead man walk I gave
him two years ago this was this
9:09
was just a dress rehearsal for
for William and Kate. And, you
9:14
know,
9:14
John C Dvorak: I have the same
sense of this. Yeah,
9:17
Adam Curry: it feels like this
is just a preamble to the real
9:19
great reset. And I don't want to
be morbid about it. But I can't
9:23
help but think that it's like,
you know, this guy aids. They
9:26
just gave it to him because he
waited so long. And we needed to
9:30
practice because when Will and
Kate when they take the throne.
9:33
It's going to be it's not going
to be not my king. People will
9:37
love that. We'll have a new new
lady die era in a way. Anyway,
9:44
why did Joe Biden our president
now Joe Biden was there she
9:48
showed up by blood that
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John C Dvorak: means the
President was there. A good one.
9:54
Unknown: Questions about why
President Biden is not in
9:57
attendance himself. He was asked
overnight by our Stephanie rule,
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here's what he had to say.
10:03
You did not go to England this
weekend for the coronation?
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No, I didn't. But I did speak to
the king. We're going to be
10:09
going to a NATO conference in
Europe. And I told him I'd stop
10:14
you there on the way over there
on the way back,
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John C Dvorak: how stop in
10:17
Adam Curry: how rude is that? I
can't come to your party of the
10:21
century. And by the way, I heard
Lionel Richie is performing. But
10:25
I wish I could. But I had him at
my birthday party. So
10:28
John C Dvorak: I stopped by
another trip.
10:30
Adam Curry: I'm maybe on the way
back, you know, I hit you on the
10:33
rebound, Chuck. That is so
insulting really is if I was
10:38
just listened to us as humans
Say that again. I mean, what
10:41
happened to our special
relationship? Now, are we
10:44
supposed to have a special
relationship with the UK? Yeah,
10:49
it's over.
10:50
Unknown: But I did speak to the
king, we're gonna be going to
10:52
NATO conference in Europe. And I
told him I'd stop you there on
10:57
the way there and the way back
10:58
Adam Curry: depends on my
timing, you know, I got stuff to
11:00
do very important things to do
this customer
11:03
Unknown: he really is passionate
about
11:04
the environment. So there you
have President Biden explaining
11:08
why he's not there. And
Savannah, all eyes will be on
11:11
that meeting that visit that we
expect the President to have.
11:15
And one of the key themes and
passions that they share is
11:18
their passion for the
environment in Savannah.
11:21
Adam Curry: Oh, yes, Joe Biden's
passion for the environment.
11:25
Lady and then of course we had
the royal rift you know what's
11:29
gonna happen with that? Would
Harry show up he do. Songs may
11:34
go home. And you know, of course
they all came out on the balcony
11:38
and who's gonna stand where and
all these important things.
11:40
Unknown: A lot of news that we
were falling but we again this
11:43
happened Good News New whose lot
of news that we were falling but
11:46
we do begin this half hour with
a closer look at the Royal rift
11:51
coronation day Prince very
attending his father ceremony
11:54
but relegated to the spectator
role. ABCs Lama Hassan has more
11:59
more Lama
12:00
this morning all eyes on these
two brothers supporting their
12:03
father, the newly unofficially
minted King William and Harry
12:07
reuniting publicly for the first
time since the late Queen's
12:10
funeral during the ceremony
playing very different roles.
12:13
William now the first in line to
the throne playing a big part,
12:17
presenting the king with the
royal robes and paying homage to
12:21
him a flying visit for the
prince who came on his own. His
12:24
wife Megan stayed at home to be
with their kids, Harry attending
12:27
the coronation service before
choosing not to have rocks and
12:30
bottles thrown out or their kids
Harry attending the coronation
12:34
service before jetting off back
to California to be with his own
12:38
family, making it in time for
his son Archie's fourth
12:41
birthday.
12:42
The fact that she's not coming
to the coronation, I think it's
12:44
probably a bit of a relief to
some of the other members of the
12:47
family. They won't say that but
I'm sure it will be such
12:55
Adam Curry: as the marbles in
the mouth. Of course not
12:58
everybody was happy then if you
weren't happy you got arrested
13:01
Unknown: 1000s of people lining
the streets of London to try to
13:04
catch a glimpse of King Charles
and Queen Camilla on their
13:07
coronation day. But not
everybody was happy about the
13:10
event. There were anti monarchy
demonstrations in some British
13:14
cities. In London several 100
protesters in Trafalgar Square
13:18
booed repeatedly during the
coronation service as it relates
13:22
to crowds.
13:31
Professors also chanted slogans
including not my king.
13:41
Adam Curry: No justice, no
peace.
13:42
Unknown: No video footage showed
several protesters dressed in T
13:46
shirts emblazoned with those
words, not my king being
13:50
detained by police officers.
13:52
Adam Curry: Now this was kind of
interesting. The these were
13:54
professional, professionally
printed T shirts, yellow, and
13:58
professionally printed signs
made to look like they were hand
14:02
drawn. I did a little
examination. And they were all
14:07
paid for by labor by the Labour
Party
14:12
John C Dvorak: or the Labour
Party's got the upper hand I do
14:13
have a clip of the results of
the local elections which is
14:18
hurting labor.
14:19
Adam Curry: And there were some
problems with that too. There
14:21
were people couldn't vote. There
were irregularities. Let's put
14:25
it
14:25
John C Dvorak: away anytime that
the labor side of things takes
14:28
over there.
14:29
Adam Curry: irregularities
happen. All right, here's, oh,
14:32
it's one of our favorites. This
is in D
14:35
Unknown: the British Prime
Minister Rishi Sunak
14:38
Conservative Party is facing a
bleak set of local election
14:41
results today. Voters turn away
from his party amid surging
14:45
inflation and stagnant economic
growth.
14:48
But what I am going to carry on
doing is delivering on the
14:50
people's priorities. Having
inflation growing the economy
14:53
reducing debt cutting waiting
list and stopping the boats.
14:56
That's what people want us to
do. That's what I'm going to
14:58
keep doing
15:00
Adam Curry: Making the vote
either that or stopping the boat
15:02
what sounded like stopping the
vote
15:04
Unknown: is delivering on the
people's priorities. Having
15:07
inflation growing the economy
reducing debt cutting waiting
15:10
list and stopping the boats.
That's what people want us to
15:12
do. That's stopping the
15:13
Adam Curry: boats, stopping the
boats, the boats with the
15:15
immigrants stopping the boats.
That's what people want. They
15:18
don't want to stop the boat and
15:19
Unknown: the boats. That's what
people want us to do. That's
15:21
what I'm gonna keep hard to
15:22
do. And make no mistake. We are
on course for a labour majority
15:28
at the next general election.
15:32
The results show the
conservative net loss of about
15:35
460 seats Wow. The main
opposition Labour Party added
15:39
about 260 seats and the Liberal
Democrats gained about 140
15:43
seats. Sunak said local
elections results so far showed
15:47
that people wanted his ruling
party to deliver on their
15:50
priorities. opposition Labour
Party leaders cure Sturmer says
15:54
the Labour Party is on course
for a majority at the next
15:58
general election. He describes
tonight's party as the problem,
16:01
not the solution.
16:04
John C Dvorak: Yeah, they're
out.
16:06
Adam Curry: So there were a
couple of interesting people at
16:11
the stunner of of the coronation
was Penny MorDaunt MorDaunt
16:15
Penny MorDaunt. I'm not quite
sure how to pronounce it. She
16:19
now she was Liz trust as leader
of the House of Commons. And I'm
16:24
not quite sure what her position
is now but she got to carry I
16:29
guess she's the president of the
Privy Council. The Privy Council
16:34
John C Dvorak: which we've
talked about the Privy Council
16:36
before Privy Council again this
eventually is a drinking club
16:40
now Can't you guys into was the
EVO meeting everyone's
16:43
underwhelming? Well,
16:44
Adam Curry: she got the she got
to carry the sword King Charles
16:47
is priceless sword made for
George the fourth 1821
16:51
coronation, but it was what she
was wearing.
16:54
John C Dvorak: I think he's got
the world's biggest diamond in
16:56
it.
16:57
Adam Curry: Is that in the
shorter I know that?
16:59
John C Dvorak: I think it's in
his TED tip of the sword. I
17:02
watch one hold KQED special and
all the jewels.
17:05
Adam Curry: Yeah, I know Africa
wants their diamond back.
17:09
Something someone in
17:10
John C Dvorak: Africa that
everybody wants stuff back.
17:12
Yeah.
17:13
Adam Curry: Anyway, so she she's
wearing this blue outfit, which
17:16
was I mean, it really showcase
her ample bosom. I'm just
17:23
reading was one way of putting
it and reading what the British
17:26
press is saying but
17:30
John C Dvorak: we got to start
using that term.
17:33
Adam Curry: So Shocking.
Shocking. I tell you, there was
17:36
a couple of observations want
that? I'm sure I'm sure that
17:40
it's that these colors are are
meant to be. But did you notice
17:45
that the floor of Westminster
that yellow and blue which
17:50
whether it's intended or not is
subliminal for Ukraine? was kind
17:56
of odd. I don't know why the
yellow and blue I didn't look
17:59
into it. But I couldn't help
another day
18:01
John C Dvorak: clean the thing
recently to an extreme to get
18:04
all the colors back up.
18:07
Adam Curry: But are those are
those two carpets there? I mean,
18:10
is that is that the color carpet
for the day? Have
18:12
John C Dvorak: you thought it
was the tiles?
18:14
Adam Curry: I thought it was
carpet will be yellow and it
18:19
must be it must signify
something the blue of the ample
18:23
bosom lady had the blue your
coronation carpet rose resembles
18:26
Ukrainian flag this is from the
telegraph. Some of oh I'm not
18:30
alone. Oh, this was the theme
some of the guests including us
18:34
first lady Joe Biden also wore
yellow and blue as they arrived.
18:38
John C Dvorak: Ah, it's a setup.
It sure sounds
18:41
Adam Curry: like it stinks. I
don't know if that was if that's
18:46
That's very odd. I don't see any
any other reason for it. That is
18:50
head yellow and blue carpets and
everyone's remarking
18:53
John C Dvorak: they're
celebrating Sweden.
18:57
Adam Curry: Doubtful. And then
and one of the others several
19:00
people pointed out to me is the
ghoulish figure
19:03
John C Dvorak: Oh, it couldn't
be the rug is from IKEA. Yeah.
19:07
Unknown: Yes, sorry. Yeah, that
19:09
Adam Curry: was like that.
That's three sided thing they
19:11
had to put together from Ikea as
well. You know, the that hides
19:15
the chair or whatever. Are the
secret stuff that Charles is
19:18
doing behind it. Did you see the
hooded ghoul? No, I did
19:23
John C Dvorak: not see the
hooded ghoul. You've gotta look
19:25
it up. Was it so Zelinsky was
there.
19:28
Adam Curry: So all of a sudden
you see behind the arch as
19:31
people have already come through
the arch you see? Almost like
19:35
what's the guy with the with the
with the death?
19:41
John C Dvorak: The Grim Reaper,
19:42
Adam Curry: Grim Reaper thank
you that guy. He's a hooded
19:46
ghoul, just like the Grim Reaper
with a long cane. Like in front
19:50
of him and just like walks from
one side of the arch to the
19:52
other. It was very odd. I mean,
I maybe it was a janitorial
19:57
service, but it was was it was
it was injured? You should look
20:02
that up, but I put it in the in
the show notes. It's very
20:04
interesting to see the hooded
ghoul hooded ghoul. Yeah. So I
20:09
think that's kind of kind of all
that we had to say. I think we
20:14
covered it. Yeah, pretty much
I'm, I'm happy for for King
20:19
Charles, you know, but it's
still it's so the whole thing is
20:22
so odd. It's really, really
strange justice
20:25
John C Dvorak: to the
interesting tweets. I've made
20:28
this observation. They had they
spent a lot of time on these
20:32
different overnight channels
that were playing this thing
20:34
live. And they had a lot of
trying to humanize him. And they
20:40
went out of their way to
humanize him. He was a comedian
20:43
and he did a bunch of jokes when
he was young, high school, he
20:45
was in a play when he could have
been an actor. Sure. And you go
20:49
on and on with all his
humanization and I'm thinking
20:53
when did they ever start? Isn't
the idea of a monarch and that
20:57
whole kind of thing is something
that's that's Supra Cumin is not
21:02
above human yes above, above
human, it's not you're not
21:05
supposed to humanize them and
bring him down to the level of
21:08
the of the of the people.
21:11
Adam Curry: Yes, I think you're
right. He also becomes the the
21:15
head of the Church of England,
which I think is supposed to
21:19
supersede the pope somehow. Your
net blood
21:21
John C Dvorak: in England. Yeah,
in England,
21:23
Adam Curry: exactly. In England.
21:25
John C Dvorak: So I find that
peculiar, because it seems that
21:29
you don't you want to make him
rise above not, Brett drag him
21:33
down and they were doing
everything they could. And it
21:36
seemed as though is that PR
woman? That PR woman who is
21:39
trying to get to you know, he's
a man of the people. He
21:42
understands the poor lab, bla
bla bla boss bullcrap. And when
21:46
I think that if you're going to
be in a monarchy system, you
21:51
don't want to degrade your
monarch. No, but once you push
21:55
him in the other direction, I
don't get it.
21:57
Adam Curry: Well, you're
supposed to go the other way.
21:59
You're supposed to be awesome,
like the queen. And then and
22:03
then then you put on your
wellies and you go out in the
22:06
flood. And then you are
22:09
John C Dvorak: dead baffles me.
Why would you want that? I don't
22:12
want my king in the flood.
That's that's the British thing.
22:17
He just got washed away. What
was he doing there? What an
22:20
idiot.
22:24
Adam Curry: You know, there are
I'm sure we have some listeners
22:25
who actually like this stuff.
You know,
22:28
John C Dvorak: there are more
anarchist type people. And I
22:31
would like them to explain to me
my complaint, which is why are
22:35
they trying to drag the king
down to the level of the of the
22:39
impoverished? He's a king. He's
moody and he should be above it
22:42
all. It should be seen as, you
know, a Supra. The good word
22:47
human.
22:49
Adam Curry: Yeah, I'm with you.
I don't know. I mean, usually
22:52
they do that after a while, you
know, but again, I'm sorry. I
22:56
just don't feel like this is
gonna last very long. I just
23:00
don't feel like it's gonna last
long for Charles. VO William and
23:03
Kate. They be even I would watch
William and Kate's coronation
23:07
you have that'll be that'd be
fun. Then you're gonna have all
23:10
of Hollywood coming. You know
it. That'll be a super party.
23:14
Lionel Richie gets back seat for
that, you know, we bring out the
23:17
hot people, the new ones, the
big stars.
23:21
John C Dvorak: The big stars
like Lizzo.
23:24
Adam Curry: Boy, you're on a
roll today. And I want to talk
23:28
about Ukraine and Russia because
there's a lot going on there.
23:30
And we have an ongoing
discussion over the future of
23:35
the war. I am of the opinion
that the war is ending. We need
23:38
to stop this as soon as possible
and focus all of our purchasing
23:43
and sales, mainly sales,
although Military Industrial
23:47
Complex likes to sell to us to
the people so we buy it. But
23:51
also to Taiwan. They just
recently had a big sale there. A
23:54
was a pre sale, a trunk sale,
when we sold them some f6 teens
23:59
the biggest sale so far of the
year, and that's where that's
24:02
where all the big money is. And
you believe with some merit, I
24:06
will say not completely baseless
that Joe Biden will do anything
24:11
he can to get boots on the
ground to secure his presidency,
24:15
which he has now announced or
he's running for. For President
24:19
again. He's announced it
announced.
24:21
John C Dvorak: Oh, yeah, he
knows he knows and that was a
24:23
video that crappy video that was
he couldn't even get through it.
24:26
Now. They cut it and cut it in
Kaduna. When they said it was
24:29
like 100 cuts. Death by 100.
Cuts.
24:33
Adam Curry: Yeah. Do you have a
clip of that? No, we
24:36
John C Dvorak: played it already
on the show. No. Okay.
24:39
Adam Curry: Let's go to CBS Nora
O'Donnell.
24:41
Unknown: Russian authorities
today are blaming the United
24:43
States for an alleged
assassination attempt on
24:46
Vladimir Putin. The Biden
administration calls Russia's
24:49
nuclear What
24:49
Adam Curry: does she say?
24:51
Unknown: That right the
beginning Russian authorities
24:53
blaming the United States for an
alleged assassination attempt on
24:56
Vladimir Putin. The Biden
administration calls Russia's
24:59
nuclear In Ludicrous mode and
National Security Council,
25:03
Adam Curry: did you hear the
infamous nor the emphasis nor
25:05
put on that? ludicrous.
25:08
John C Dvorak: This is your
promise she's gonna get fired
25:09
because she can't seem to keep
herself out of the reporting.
25:12
It's odd. If I was being
executive mode, polar polar
25:18
aside, I'd say, a blurry aside
say, Hey, knock that off and
25:24
smile more. The Biden ministers
are very good, charming smile. I
25:27
don't know why she doesn't use
it more she does at the end of
25:29
the show. Yeah, here we go.
25:31
Unknown: Russian authorities
today are blaming the United
25:33
States for an alleged
assassination attempt on
25:36
Vladimir Putin. The Biden
administration calls Russia's
25:38
new claim ludicrous. National
Security Council Spokesman John
25:42
Kirby says the Kremlin is lying.
There are questions from the
25:45
United States on if there even
was an attack with Russia's
25:49
president as the target. Ukraine
says Russia staged the whole
25:52
thing. Overnight, several
Ukrainian cities were attacked
25:55
by drones.
25:57
Adam Curry: I love this. I love
that just throw away Oh, several
26:01
Ukrainian cities were attacked
by drones. What kind of drones
26:04
Reaper drones are we talking to
all these little little bitty
26:09
ones with a bomb attached
cardboard drones, which turns
26:11
out most of those are made in
Australia, the cardboard ones.
26:15
And as far as I can tell, the
only the Ukrainians have the
26:19
little the little remote control
plane drones. I don't think
26:23
Russia uses those. So when she
says several Ukrainian cities
26:26
were no information.
26:27
John C Dvorak: There's enough
information to hold that bid
26:30
report.
26:31
Adam Curry: Information hole.
Let's try ABC
26:34
Unknown: Russia tonight hurling
new threats aimed at the US, the
26:38
Deputy Foreign Minister wanting
their quote on the verge of an
26:40
open armed conflict with the
United States.
26:43
Adam Curry: What are we on the
verge of an open art? Whatever
26:49
that means is our reporting.
26:51
John C Dvorak: Yes, our
reporting because we are on the
26:54
verge of sending troops. Now I'm
going to refute this later,
26:58
Unknown: Russia tonight hurling
news at the US. The deputy
27:01
foreign minister wanting their
quote on the verge of an open
27:04
armed conflict with the United
States again claiming Ukraine
27:08
carried out a drone attack on
the Kremlin Wednesday,
27:11
attempting to assassinate
Russian President Vladimir Putin
27:13
at the direction of the US White
House Spokesman John Kirby
27:17
firmly denying the allegations
that the US was involved as
27:19
quote, a blatant lie still
Russia warning of possible
27:23
retaliation, saying it will
respond when and wherever it
27:26
sees fit on the battlefield.
nightmarish new video reportedly
27:30
showing Russian incendiary bombs
burning in a Ukrainian held
27:33
pocket of Bach moot and the
potentially major development on
27:36
that battlefield today. The head
of Moscow's Wagner mercenary
27:39
group says he's pulling his
troops out of the eastern
27:42
Ukrainian city because they're
not being supplied with enough
27:45
ammunition. In a video
statement, you have guinea pig
27:49
goes in calling his Russian
leadership coward and saying his
27:52
troops will leave Baku next week
on May 10. Western officials say
27:57
half of the 20,000 Russian
troops killed in Ukraine since
28:00
December. We're Wagner fighters
and Buck moves.
28:04
John C Dvorak: Okay, that's not
the I think they really miss
28:07
reported that story. Okay. He
said he would. He didn't say he
28:12
will. He was very vague. Here's
how I got to one clip from MTD.
28:18
The Wagner group guy is irked.
28:21
Unknown: Yeah, Turning now to
the Ukraine war. The leader of
28:24
Russia's Wagner group mercenary
force said today that his forces
28:27
would leave the Ukrainian city
of BOC mode. Russia has been
28:30
trying to capture the city since
last summer.
28:33
Must beside you to note that we
were put on what's known as
28:36
artificial ammunition deficit,
ammunition hunger. The
28:39
ammunition is freely available
in the depot's we were receiving
28:42
only 30% of what we needed. For
that reason, our losses were
28:46
significantly higher than they
should have been.
28:49
Prigogine said they would pull
back on May 10. Yes defense
28:53
chiefs to insert regular army
troops in their place. Wagner
28:57
has been spearheading Russia's
long and costly attempt to
29:00
capture Buck mode. Provision
said three weeks ago that his
29:04
men controlled more than 80% of
the city, but Ukrainian
29:07
defenders have held out and
perversion has vented increasing
29:11
anger and what he describes as a
lack of support from the Russian
29:15
defense establishment. Back mode
has taken on huge symbolic
29:19
importance for both sides
because of the sheer intensity
29:22
and duration of the fighting
there.
29:24
Adam Curry: You know, we really
haven't gotten a good background
29:26
on the Bogner group and why
they're there. This
29:29
John C Dvorak: is good point.
29:30
Adam Curry: I mean, also Joe
Wagner group Wagner group as
29:32
kind of like academy or
Blackwater, formerly known as
29:35
Blackwater. Is that Is that what
I'm supposed to think of the
29:38
Wagner group and the Wagner
group that day? They just
29:42
they're like a fair weather
friend. Oh, you don't give us
29:44
bullets? We go somewhere else.
I'm angry. And who cares? I
29:48
mean, is that all the brush? It
just sounds like that's all that
29:51
Russia has. Is the Wagner group.
29:53
John C Dvorak: Yeah, I don't
think fishy about this Wagner.
29:56
Wagner to evade Wagner Wagner
Wagner budgets.
30:00
Adam Curry: And all of that just
seems moot compared to this next
30:03
story covered by both ABC and
NPR. Now, the Patriot missiles,
30:09
which several European countries
have given their Patriot
30:12
missiles, we've given our
Patriot missile banks. What do
30:17
we know about the Patriot
missiles? Are they Great? Are
30:19
they effective?
30:21
John C Dvorak: They're
considered lousy and they don't
30:22
work.
30:23
Adam Curry: Well. Listen to this
story.
30:25
Unknown: New images capturing
the battle for Ukraine unfolding
30:28
in the skies over key. Countries
Air Force tonight with a
30:33
spectacular claim that for the
first time, they've shot down a
30:36
Russian hypersonic missile which
Vladimir Putin once called
30:39
invincible with an American made
Patriot missile system. The
30:43
Russian hypersonic known as the
Kinzel can travel at more than
30:46
five times the speed of sound
and has a range of over 1000
30:49
miles. Ukraine only recently
deployed the Patriot the most
30:53
technologically advanced and
costly air defense system in the
30:56
world, each Patriot missile
almost $3 million. But the
31:00
Patriots ability to shoot down a
hypersonic missile has never
31:04
been publicly demonstrated.
31:05
Adam Curry: I have my doubts
about
31:08
John C Dvorak: boy, do you
because I do I have my doubts
31:12
about the pace sounds like full
crab hybrid missile to Tory's
31:18
notorious dog at 3 million bucks
a pop costly is the word he
31:23
used.
31:24
Adam Curry: We also don't know
if this Russian missile is
31:26
actually high restaurant so who
knows what that was? Is it
31:29
possible I'm just gonna throw
this out? Somebody's going
31:31
John C Dvorak: five over 5000
miles an hour or 44,000 to 5000
31:36
miles an hour?
31:38
Adam Curry: I don't think so.
Not not not at that altitude.
31:41
Oh, it would burn I wish I
could. Is it possible this is
31:45
all just a wag the dog
31:47
John C Dvorak: media war I think
I think this this last thing
31:50
wasn't a wag the dog thing it
was let's sell some more
31:52
patriots to some other
31:53
Adam Curry: suckers. Well, let's
listen to NPR. Is it on the sale
31:57
Unknown: overseas? Ukraine says
it used a newly acquired us
32:00
Patriot missile battery to shut
down a Russian hybrid.
32:03
Adam Curry: I gotta read
something from the troll room.
32:05
All right, wasn't it Ice Cube.
If the hypersonic missiles not
32:09
very maneuverable than the
patriot has a chance with a
32:11
software upgrade, please. I
think it'd be a firmware
32:17
upgrade, not a software upgrade.
Now we could get your hypersonic
32:21
missile just let me upgrade the
firmware. Ya know
32:25
Unknown: overseas Ukraine says
it used a newly acquired us
32:28
Patriot missile battery to shoot
down a Russian hypersonic weapon
32:32
over the capital of Kiva last
week. Newman has more
32:36
attacks on Ukraine in recent
months, Russia has increasingly
32:39
employed one of its latest high
tech missiles, the Kensal or
32:43
dagger, traveling it up to 10
times the speed of sound. The
32:47
missile had proved nearly
impossible to intercept but
32:51
Ukraine's Air Force
32:55
John C Dvorak: when would they
when was it tested against
32:57
interception? I don't know
they've been firing these things
33:02
off left and right and they've
been impossible to intercept I
33:04
don't know sounds like I by the
way have the sales pitch that
33:09
they didn't use the guy with
this thought with the software
33:12
upgrade the new Patriot missile
beat got the hypersonic missile
33:17
using AI
33:18
Adam Curry: ah yes what are we
thinking people crew Devora
33:22
consulting group to the rescue
once again. Yes, we have this is
33:26
your soul right? These guys are
behind the times Military
33:30
Industrial Complex hire us. We
will help you this is exactly
33:34
right. The new Patriot Yeah, so
we go now to general DeVore. AK
33:40
was going to explain how how was
possible for this. For this
33:45
Patriot missile, often known as
the dog of war, to actually
33:49
intercept the hatchet whatever
it was called the
33:53
John C Dvorak: the harrow comes
down Yeah, well, the AI which is
33:56
stands for artificial
intelligence can tell you can
33:59
adjust the sighting and
targeting so far in advance that
34:04
before the missile is actually
launched by the Russians, it
34:08
will know where it's going to
go.
34:09
Adam Curry: So the dagger the
dagger, I'm sorry, the dagger?
34:12
Yeah, we shoot the dagger. We're
not afraid of your dagger,
34:15
Russia, we've got Patriot AI,
34:18
Unknown: traveling it up to 10
times the speed of sound. The
34:21
missile had proved nearly
impossible to intercept. But
34:25
Ukraine's Air Force armed with
us supplied Patriot missiles
34:28
that arrived last month says it
destroyed a Kensal during a
34:33
Russian strike on Kyiv earlier
this week, it's thought to be
34:36
the first time Ukraine has
managed to intercept a Russian
34:40
hypersonic missile. In October
the US agreed to supply patriots
34:44
to Ukraine to aid in defending
its skies against the Kremlin's
34:48
air and missile attacks.
34:51
Adam Curry: Yet there's a drone
late yet there's drones
34:54
attacking multiple cities in in
Ukraine and they can't stop
34:59
John C Dvorak: you can't stop
dos Santos you know, and that
35:01
might understand the most of the
missiles that were hitting
35:04
Ukraine overtime or cruise
missiles, not this crazy
35:08
hypersonic thing? Well, well, I
mean, was there any evidence
35:11
that they were being pounded by
these things in the past? I
35:13
don't know this, but we
35:14
Adam Curry: know why this is a
story. Because we need to
35:18
develop hypersonic missiles.
That's the whole
35:21
John C Dvorak: money there.
Yeah, you're
35:22
Adam Curry: right. You know, so
we need
35:24
John C Dvorak: but then again,
if the, if the Patriot can bring
35:27
him down, you know, maybe we're
gonna do hyper hypersonic.
35:32
Adam Curry: And we were talking
about the just war. Now they
35:36
call the this in Ukraine, the
you know, it's not a just war.
35:41
This comes from its military
ethics, just war theory. There's
35:45
a whole Wikipedia page on it.
Which has been studied by
35:50
military leaders, theologians,
ethicist and policymakers,
35:53
consultants. It's doctrine to
ensure that a war is morally
35:59
justifiable through a series of
criteria, all of which must be
36:03
met for war to be considered
considered just juice ad bellum.
36:07
The right to go war? And of
course, this comes from ancient
36:11
Egypt and then route the I mean,
he hard was a joke. Used to blow
36:18
I agree. I agree. They heard
from our constitutional law
36:22
professor JJ, he says the war of
aggression in international law,
36:29
which I'm like, show me their
international law book. We sent
36:33
me stuff but it was not an it'll
not it's not a book that says
36:35
this is international law,
because that just doesn't exist.
36:39
The Supreme crimes, supreme
crime is a war of aggression.
36:43
That means an unprovoked attack,
such as the primary charge
36:48
against heads of Germany and
Japan after World War Two.
36:53
John C Dvorak: You mean, all
those provoked attacks?
36:56
Adam Curry: Yeah. Well, well,
Jeff. But I mean, that that just
36:59
defining it. But of course,
it's, you know, there was a lot
37:03
of
37:04
John C Dvorak: a lot of problem
the attack on Pearl Harbor was
37:07
provoked.
37:07
Adam Curry: Of course. It was,
in fact provoked. Yeah, it was
37:11
tell people.
37:15
John C Dvorak: It doesn't mean
that wasn't chickenshit tell us
37:18
how it was provoked. What was
provoked because we did cut off
37:21
all kinds of weak trade we had
to we got into a trade war for
37:26
all practical purposes with
Japan. Exactly. And we
37:29
specifically we provoked them.
Yeah. And I would say the word
37:34
cutting them off here and there
cutting them off at the knees
37:36
here and there, what you're
trying to do to China, and it
37:39
provoked him. And so they, you
know, joined forces with the,
37:42
with the Nazis and got us into
the war by bombing Pearl Harbor,
37:47
which we some people believe
was, I think, was some
37:51
justification that we knew it
was coming
37:53
Adam Curry: so that we could get
into the war
37:56
John C Dvorak: sounds and that's
why we moved all our big
37:58
carriers. We left all the junky
boats behind, move the big
38:01
carriers off the road by just
coincidence. Luckily, our big
38:04
carriers weren't anywhere near
the place. That's a lucky
38:08
coincidence.
38:10
Adam Curry: That part of the
story is not told in the Pacific
38:14
War Museum here in
Fredericksburg. And it's in
38:17
John C Dvorak: the red that the
carriers are moved out of the
38:19
way No, no is not
38:21
Adam Curry: told, not told.
It's, by the way, that's a
38:24
dynamite Museum. If you ever
want to see it's just a credit
38:28
Museum, the Pacific War Museum
in Fredericksburg because of
38:31
course, Admiral Nimitz, grew up
in Fredericksburg. And the
38:37
Nimitz was a huge aircraft
carrier that won the war for our
38:41
boys so
38:42
John C Dvorak: Nimitz would name
is home was like I say won the
38:44
Pacific War by himself on
38:46
Adam Curry: just him him and
his, his pipe, his buddy and his
38:49
buddies. So an apple bomb and do
you have anything on Ukraine any
38:54
other stuff before I go on? And
blow you out of the water?
38:57
John C Dvorak: Yeah, it's funny
when you ask knowing you have to
39:00
listen you see nothing
39:02
Adam Curry: I do. I rarely look
at your list. I mean, I don't
39:06
really care. Sweetie, you know I
mean, I'm not supposed to I'm
39:11
not spying
39:13
John C Dvorak: I guess the wagon
or group guy thought I had some
39:15
Ukraine clips. I think I have
some leftover of Nope, I use
39:18
them all. No, we're good to go.
39:20
Adam Curry: So Anne Applebaum.
Is she's kind of a media darling
39:24
of of this war.
39:28
John C Dvorak: Yeah, we have to
revisit who she is because every
39:32
time I look her up every so
often and every time I hear her
39:35
name, as she's spoke of some
sort or she's an Asian
39:38
provocateur, she's I don't know
what she is. And every night
39:42
then I forget about her
completely and then you bring
39:44
her up again and I have to be
reminded who she is
39:46
Adam Curry: because she keeps
popping up everywhere as the
39:48
expert now of course she writes
for The Atlantic currently but
39:52
ah, no attic she is Polish
American. So you know she's so
39:56
she's been very involved in this
because, you know, she's
39:58
actually no young I'm in Poland
and her aid isn't her husband or
40:03
her boyfriend. He was the guy
that when, when they when we
40:08
blew up the Nord Stream he he
said thanks America or some I'm
40:13
paraphrasing thanks America Good
job everybody. Reading from her
40:18
Wikipedia page. She has written
extensively about the history of
40:21
communism so that she would be a
trans Maoist, she would be part
40:25
of the system trying to drive us
into communism. She's worked at
40:31
the economist, a spectator, a
member of the editorial board of
40:33
the Washington Post, she won the
pure the coveted pure surprise
40:38
for general nonfiction for
gulag, a history published in
40:43
2004, staff writer for Atlantic
senior fellow at the Agora
40:47
Institute, Johns Hopkins, a
Johns Hopkins University School
40:51
of Advanced International
Studies. Yeah, I'd say spook,
40:54
oh, Sidwell and friends.
40:56
John C Dvorak: She think Wait, I
got another one as well. Yeah.
40:59
She spent the summer in
Leningrad. Yes, she did. But
41:03
what she has written.
41:04
Adam Curry: Sidwell Friends
School is where all the spook
41:07
children go to including my
cousin's. Oh, okay. So that's a
41:11
giveaway and she's Phi Beta
Kappa
41:16
John C Dvorak: is not a dummy,
which is spooks love Phi Beta
41:18
Kappa, and
41:18
Adam Curry: in 1989, just by
coincidence, she drove from
41:21
Warsaw to Berlin to report on
the collapse of the Berlin Wall.
41:27
Anyway, yeah, this girl is
connected. And she has been
41:33
writing a lot about Russia. I
think she'd St. Anthony's
41:36
John C Dvorak: College, Oxford
to me, she's probably a Rhodes
41:39
dealer soon. Who knows.
41:41
Adam Curry: She has been writing
about Russia since the early
41:42
1990s and 2000. She described
the links between the den new
41:45
new President of Russia Vladimir
Putin, with former Soviet leader
41:49
Yuri on drop off and rip off the
former can drop off and drop and
41:54
drop them off. In 2000, he began
speaking about Putin ism as an
41:59
anti democratic NISM Okay, write
that down if we ever use that as
42:03
a title. Nope. ism.
42:06
John C Dvorak: Don't care for
it. So she she like ample bosom
42:10
is better.
42:12
Adam Curry: How do you spell it
spell bosom?
42:15
John C Dvorak: Pos O M
42:17
Adam Curry: ample bosom? Okay.
So she's she's, she's an
42:24
activist. She's not
42:25
John C Dvorak: whether or not
she's writing all this materials
42:27
and other question because we
know that the agencies plural,
42:33
plenty of writers and crank
listen, I feel bad for these
42:36
guys who write for somebody else
and then their name is narrowed
42:39
Manchester's
42:39
Adam Curry: member of Congress
ghost writer, member of Council
42:41
on Foreign Relations. I am on
the board of the National
42:45
Endowment for Democracy, which
is a huge NGO funding out
42:50
outfit. Yeah, we should get
money from them. Good luck,
42:54
member of the Institute for war
and peace reportings,
42:57
international board of
directors. Is that Amy's outfit?
43:02
I don't think so. But she's just
the War and Peace Report. Senior
43:06
adjunct Fellow at the Center for
European Policy Analysis spook
43:09
outfit led a major initiative
aimed at countering Russian
43:12
disinformation in Central and
Eastern Europe. Okay, you get
43:15
the idea.
43:16
John C Dvorak: Yeah, she's so
she's like, holy moly.
43:20
Adam Curry: Yeah. So she's tied
in, she's clued in she knows
43:22
what's going on. And as usual,
43:26
John C Dvorak: and her spouse is
this guy, who is Rattus law
43:31
Sikorski, a Polish politician
and journalist is a member of
43:35
the European Parliament,
Parliament. And here's some some
43:41
other things he's Polish he's
real polish, and she's got a new
43:45
book out of course she doesn't
crank those books out we're not
43:48
doing any work
43:49
Adam Curry: the twilight of
democracy explains with
43:54
electrifying clarity why some of
her contemporaries have
43:58
abandoned liberal democratic
ideas in favor of strong man
44:02
cults nationalist movements, or
one party states
44:07
John C Dvorak: surely this named
people that have gone for that
44:10
Adam Curry: I'm not gonna I'm
just reading from her blurb
44:14
blurb that she to help man
Stalin's war on Ukraine she she
44:19
knows it all. She she knows it
all. Okay, so we've established
44:24
what she is and who she is what
she does,
44:26
John C Dvorak: and every we have
to do this over and over again,
44:28
she's she's the perfect and an
apple bombs or name. Okay?
44:34
Adam Curry: What Sure. Oh,
44:37
John C Dvorak: well, you know,
the CIA read names everybody, is
44:41
something you're saying if
you're gonna start renaming
44:44
people with some phony baloney
names, I think an apple bomb is
44:49
pretty good choice.
44:51
Adam Curry: Let's see. Oh, and
her most recent article in The
44:55
Atlantic. Is was May 1. The Case
for Tow to liberation of
45:00
Ukraine, Russia must be expelled
from all of Ukraine's territory,
45:04
including Crimea. So this is
what she may be writing and
45:11
saying, you know, for all of her
Washington, DC hoity toity
45:14
people but as we know, if you
put any of these, any of these
45:19
intellectuals, anybody really
reporter, he put them on a
45:23
podcast what happens? They talk
or they speak out of turn. They
45:28
say too much. They say way too
much. And wouldn't you know it?
45:33
She was on the pivot podcast,
which is the award winning
45:36
technology podcast that doesn't
really talk about technology
45:43
with your favorite of mine, Kara
Swisher, and the Professor G.
45:47
Scott Galloway. And they asked
her specifically about ending
45:51
the war in Ukraine,
45:53
Unknown: as I said, I think that
they're the counter offensive is
45:57
might not look like what we
think it would look like. I
45:59
mean, it may not be kind of
brigade.
46:02
John C Dvorak: What they've been
talking about this counter
46:05
offensive, and so she's been a
spokesperson for who knows who.
46:09
And she says, hey, you know,
it's not gonna look like we
46:12
think, which means is not either
not going to happen, or it's a
46:15
huge dud or some something's
wrong,
46:18
Unknown: it's better look like
what we think it would look
46:20
like. I mean, it may not be kind
of brigades of tanks, you know,
46:23
streaming across the
countryside. It may come in fits
46:27
and starts. So there may be, as
I said, I think the Ukrainian
46:34
Adam Curry: you can be Go ahead.
46:37
John C Dvorak: How does she know
any of this?
46:39
Adam Curry: She's boots on the
ground.
46:41
John C Dvorak: Defense
Department. She is EIA, what's
46:44
the deal? She's
46:45
Adam Curry: everything she knows
what's going on. This is this is
46:47
what's so beautiful about the
podcast. Below she think, Oh,
46:50
I'm just gonna chat with with
Kara and Scott the way we do it
46:54
at the club, head, the lip Joe
club, we're just going to talk a
46:57
little bit and because you know,
this is how they talk, when
47:00
they're on the phone. She's
forgetting that people listen to
47:02
the podcast, she's very
different when she's on MSNBC,
47:07
or CNN or even one of the
weather networks. She's an
47:11
official, she's that she is a
spokes hole for what's going on.
47:15
She's written the book,
47:17
Unknown: it may come in fits and
starts, she's a patriot. So
47:20
there may be, as I said, I think
the Ukrainians are going to be
47:23
probing up and down the line.
They're going to be looking for
47:27
political opportunities, as well
as military opportunities.
47:30
They're, they're what part of
their goal is to kind of
47:33
destabilize the Kremlin, as
we've already discussed, and,
47:37
and create a sense in Russia
that just that the war is a
47:42
waste of time. And
47:43
Adam Curry: this is very
important, because this is what
47:45
she's part of, is these groups
that go in and do subversive
47:50
stuff in a country to chant, you
know, coup, basically color
47:55
revolution. And they have had in
their mind for the longest time,
47:59
if only we can get Vladimir
Putin to be thrown out by his
48:03
own people. This is what they
really want. But you know, Putin
48:07
throughout all the NGOs funded
by USA ID he saw it come and he
48:12
saw it. And what was that in
2015? Or something he
48:14
John C Dvorak: saw was a while
ago, they can't touch him. Yeah.
48:18
So
48:18
Adam Curry: but you know, so
anyway, this is what the
48:20
Ukrainians are now going to do.
48:21
Unknown: And if destabilize the
Kremlin, as we've already
48:23
discussed, and, and create a
sense in Russia that, you know,
48:29
just that the war is a waste of
time and a waste of energy. And
48:32
it's an it's an it should be
stopped.
48:34
Adam Curry: But that sounds like
a plan. Yeah, let's convince to
48:37
Putin isn't that it's a waste of
time. Should you just
48:41
Unknown: remember, they don't
need to occupy Moscow or conquer
48:44
Moscow or take Russian
territory, they have no
48:47
ambitions like that. All they
have to do is convince the
48:50
Russians, you know, to go home.
And really the moment the moment
48:54
when the Russians withdraw their
troops, the war's over, you
48:57
know, since it can, so there's
no complicated, you know,
49:00
territorial negotiation. There's
nothing complex that needs to be
49:03
done. They just need to leave
and then it's over. But they're
49:06
not going to leave. Right.
They're not willing. I mean,
49:08
Adam Curry: they have left such
a probing question, Kara,
49:10
Swisher? Well, well,
49:12
Unknown: Plex that needs to be
done. They just need to leave
49:14
and then it's over. But they're
not going to leave. Right.
49:17
They're not willing.
49:17
I mean, they have left, they
left Pearson, they left arkiv.
49:22
And they left, you know, the
northern part of Ukraine that
49:24
they conquered the beginning of
the war. So there's some
49:26
precedent for thinking they
could leave.
49:28
Adam Curry: So what if they just
left back moot? Then they could,
49:32
Oh, it's over. They left. Maybe
that's why all this focus is on
49:36
that right now. Maybe this is
the Wagner group's job, because
49:40
they're fairweather friends, by
all we give up. We have no
49:43
support. There's not that we're
leaving. And then then they
49:46
could clear victory. I mean, we
still have to prosecute Vladimir
49:51
Putin at the International
Criminal Court. But that would
49:55
be one area. She's definitely
backpedaling on the war aspect
49:59
of it. Oh, I don't want to have
to convince the people of the
50:02
Russia to tell Vladimir Putin
it's a waste of time. He just
50:05
needs to pull out and then it's
over the war's over done. That's
50:08
what I heard from Anne
Applebaum. Did you hear that?
50:13
John C Dvorak: I heard that. The
Ukrainians have got nothing.
50:19
That's why there's not going to
be a counter offensive, which
50:22
they've been putting off. It
seems to me an awful long time.
50:26
But your thesis because of the
it's possible that his Wagner
50:29
group guy who's out and
notorious for being a blowhard,
50:34
according to other reports, may
you might be right, he may be
50:37
setting it up for this
withdrawal. And in the Russians.
50:41
For one thing, they're leaving a
mess.
50:44
Adam Curry: Yeah, for sure.
50:45
John C Dvorak: I mean, it's the
areas that the Russians are
50:48
dicking around and are, are
messed up. And they've killed a
50:54
lot of people. Yes, a
50:56
Adam Curry: very bad day for
Ukrainians. They're
50:58
John C Dvorak: so bad day. And
so well, let me give you some
51:04
you know what they could do? I
51:05
Adam Curry: mean, let me let me
give you a little more, because
51:07
this was a long interview.
51:10
John C Dvorak: I'm all ears
here.
51:12
Adam Curry: So now listen to
this, about the US is support in
51:18
all of this, what do we really
want to have happen
51:21
Unknown: to how would you assess
the West?
51:23
Adam Curry: Well, I'm Bob Scott.
51:28
Unknown: Bomer, Professor of
Marketing. I'm a professor of
51:30
marketing at NYU, and I'm going
to talk more now with you.
51:35
How would you assess the West's
support for Ukraine? And
51:39
Adam Curry: what what are your
views on on? Do you have a
51:42
message for for the West? Do you
have a message? Can you give us
51:46
the CIA's message and Ukraine
and what what are your views on
51:51
Do you have a message for for
the West,
51:53
Unknown: so it's really
impressive what we've done so
51:56
far, and it's a lot more than
anybody had ever expected. And
52:00
it's that's also a reflection of
the fact that Ukrainians just
52:04
impressed people, you know,
Solinsky was good at
52:06
communicating. But it wasn't
just him. It was the, you know,
52:09
the, you know, the Ukrainians
fought back, you know, and
52:11
Marielle. Paul, for example, the
very good, you know, early part
52:14
of the war and kids. And because
of that, the nice is rub
52:19
John C Dvorak: alized.
52:23
Adam Curry: We continue, oh,
Paul,
52:24
Unknown: for example, let's
52:25
Adam Curry: go back to it on
that one indicating, but
52:26
Unknown: it wasn't just him. It
was the, you know, the
52:28
Ukrainians fought back, you
know, at Marielle pole, for
52:31
example, at the very early part
of the war. And he is, and
52:36
because I
52:38
Adam Curry: did you hear what I
just heard, I didn't hear this
52:40
before. Did you hear what I just
heard? She said, Kyiv? She said
52:44
Kyiv? Maybe she's a double
agent.
52:50
John C Dvorak: You know, I, I
wonder about when you talk to
52:53
people from the area, they say
you can pronounce it either way.
52:56
It's no big deal. But we've been
known as a key reason and the
53:00
only inundated by saying Kyiv it
could be a part of the milieu
53:05
she's
53:05
Adam Curry: in. Yeah, Russian
KGB, I think she's a
53:09
John C Dvorak: CIA may be
calling it killer. Oh,
53:11
Adam Curry: good. One,
53:12
Unknown: Ukrainians fought back,
you know, in Marielle. Paul, for
53:15
example, at the very early part
of the war, and he is, and
53:19
because of that you've had this
galvanizing effect on Europe on
53:23
America, you know, and our
willingness to give them weapons
53:26
and help them is extraordinary.
I would say one thing, which is
53:30
that we always seem to be kind
of three or four beats behind
53:33
the situation. You know,
eventually we will give them you
53:37
know, we said we wouldn't give
them high marzi, these long
53:39
range missiles, long range
artillery, you know, and then we
53:42
did, you know, we've said we
wouldn't give them airplanes,
53:45
and now actually, they're
beginning to get some airplanes
53:47
from, from European countries.
And we may eventually do that,
53:50
too. And it would help if we
would give them more
53:53
immediately, because then we
could maybe end the war more
53:57
quickly. I mean, the danger of
this war, obviously, is that it
53:59
drags on, which is not good for
them, not good for us not good
54:02
for anybody, and having a
decisive plan to end it, you
54:07
know, soon isn't something super
decisive plan to end it, you
54:15
know, soon isn't something I'm
feeling from Washington. I mean,
54:19
Washington remains in Washington
meeting in the White House
54:22
dependent on lots of different
people remains nervous about the
54:26
idea that the Ukrainians could
win in other words, could push
54:29
the Russians out of at least
their territory since February
54:33
22. Taken since February 2022.
But in more than that February
54:38
in territory taken since 2014.
And there seems to be there's
54:42
there's still a lot of
nervousness and I think that
54:45
that's that's been a kind of
drag on the war. And there's a
54:49
danger that that nervousness
could extend the war. So they
54:52
don't want them to win too much.
They just want them to take they
54:55
seem to not they nobody says it
quite like that. Nobody will
54:59
ever say that. on the record,
you know, even off the record,
55:02
they don't really say that
55:02
Adam Curry: except on our
podcast your dog's Stupid woman
55:07
Unknown: to take. They seem to
not that nobody says it quite
55:10
like that. Nobody will ever say
that on the record, you know,
55:13
even off the record, they don't
really say that. But yeah, it's
55:17
pretty clear that they are
there. They're nervous about
55:19
what that would mean. And I
think that's wrong because again
55:21
for now, I think I said this to
another time it's a it's a
55:24
political struggle as well as a
military one and the Russians
55:27
have to be convinced that they
can't win and that there's no
55:30
opportunity for them to win.
55:31
Adam Curry: That's you said a
lot there. And I think go either
55:34
my way or your way what I heard
her say was, they want them to
55:39
win but let's not drag this out
and try and get Crimea back.
55:43
That's what I hear. What did you
hear?
55:46
John C Dvorak: boots on the
ground baby? Gum and that's
55:51
possible.
55:53
Adam Curry: It's possible. It's
possible I think it could go
55:56
either way. But I just like how
podcasts are beautiful, please.
56:02
And I love hearing this on the
number one award winning tech
56:05
podcast that's what I love so
much about it. It's just
56:08
John C Dvorak: there ever been
any tech discussed on this award
56:11
winning tech podcast
56:12
Adam Curry: all the time? It's
mainly a cara and Scott get
56:16
Professor G's hatred of Elon
Musk that is the extent of tech
56:20
that they discuss. That's really
it. That's all they do.
56:27
John C Dvorak: Well, as long as
they win awards,
56:30
Adam Curry: and abroad, they're
very very, very happy about
56:32
their award. They think they're
great.
56:34
John C Dvorak: Who they get an
award from.
56:36
Adam Curry: Oh, it's like a it
was a big award like the
56:38
webisodes are one of those
56:40
John C Dvorak: Oh, webby.
56:41
Adam Curry: Yeah. webby. Have
you ever won a Webby?
56:45
John C Dvorak: No, only really,
we had a woman who started the
56:50
web. He's on the old silicon
spin show. She was actually part
56:53
of, I think she worked at Tech
TV for a while. And very nice,
56:57
nice, nice girl who was kind of
a pretty blonde that was kind of
57:03
like over over made up or quite
attractive. And in a funny kind
57:08
of a high schoolish way then one
of the girls that was also a
57:13
staffer knew her in high school.
And she was one of those good
57:17
looking Mean Girls, where we
had, and she was she hated her.
57:22
And I said, well, she's nice,
and she was good on the show.
57:24
She's very charming, charming,
sharp, and inventive, and can
57:30
manage to make these webs work.
I was very impressed by her. Let
57:34
me say number name.
57:36
Adam Curry: It's, I know the guy
who produces that friend of mine
57:39
actually produces the award show
itself and he's not cheap. He
57:43
does very, very expensive stuff.
I'm trying to find this award
57:46
that they want I can't seem to
find it.
57:49
John C Dvorak: The their partner
award, we should win the
57:53
Peabody.
57:55
Adam Curry: You've said this
several Hey, I'm still waiting
57:57
for my for my production of war
sound award.
58:03
John C Dvorak: Don't worry,
you're gonna get it. From A to B
58:08
from the audio engineers are one
of those guys
58:10
Adam Curry: that they never even
televised those. Well, you're
58:14
not gonna get
58:14
John C Dvorak: televised.
58:16
Adam Curry: But you don't even
get an
58:18
John C Dvorak: audio guy ever
gets on television.
58:21
Adam Curry: I want Ricky Gervais
to accept for me. I accept the
58:26
on behalf of curry. Meanwhile,
the American public is not
58:29
foolish. Now they know exactly
what's going on C span is where
58:33
they they air their grievances
because hey, it's television.
58:37
Unknown: Good morning. Thanks
for taking my call. 62
58:47
Adam Curry: Thanks for taking my
call.
58:48
Unknown: I've never seen our
country in such turmoil. You
58:54
know, Donald Trump, as much as
people hate that man. He's given
58:58
us a peek behind the curtains,
how things work. For example,
59:03
your last segment regarding the
war. It's funny how the media,
59:09
they don't quite live. They just
give you one side of the story.
59:14
The media is in bed with the
politicians, the National
59:19
Security Agency spying on a
president changing elections. We
59:26
have a war in Ukraine. That was
started by us. We blew up the
59:33
Nord Stream pipeline. We're
letting millions of immigrants
59:38
flow across our border.
59:41
How do we how do we blow up the
Nord Stream pipeline?
59:46
Well, again, if the media would
do their job, The New York Times
59:52
journalist as wrote about this
in detail wrote about it and how
59:58
this was done. Joe Biden even
set it on television not quite
1:00:03
said we're gonna do it. But he
was asked how you're going to
1:00:07
stop the pipeline. He said, We
got ways to do it. Now the media
1:00:12
would get on board. You guys are
supposed to be. You're in the
1:00:17
Constitution you you're
protecting the people. But
1:00:21
you're all in cahoots with the
politicians, the establishment,
1:00:25
the very powerful people the
Bilderberg people, right?
1:00:30
Billionaires global world order.
They want us eaten by a
1:00:35
Democratic women women or men,
every institution upside down.
1:00:41
Nobody trusts anybody anymore.
1:00:45
Let's stop right there. Let's go
to Sandra who's calling from
1:00:48
Tennessee. All the independent
life.
1:00:51
John C Dvorak: Alright, well,
today for that guy.
1:00:55
Unknown: That's very, very good.
1:00:59
John C Dvorak: That was the
that's the black Democrat Host.
1:01:02
Yeah, the big bugs I call these
really hates Trump. Oh, well,
1:01:09
Adam Curry: let's play this one
for him. Then a just in the I
1:01:13
don't know how this gets out
video of Trump's deposition in
1:01:17
the accusation. This is great.
This is only a little piece and
1:01:22
there's no it's on YouTube. So
they had to censor out the word
1:01:26
rape for some reason. I guess
YouTube kicks it off if you have
1:01:29
rape in there. But it's the
President being deposed about E.
1:01:33
J. Carroll. We when she first
came out with this accusation a
1:01:37
couple years ago, we played
several clips was so
1:01:40
embarrassing that even Anderson
Cooper would just like take this
1:01:43
woman off the air when she was
like yeah, rapists sexy This is
1:01:47
that she's a nut job
frightening. And people are
1:01:52
sending me these clips like it's
new. Hey, look at Anderson
1:01:55
Cooper did Yeah, four years ago
whenever it was. But here's a
1:01:58
little piece of the deposition.
1:02:00
Unknown: Okay, then you go on to
say in the statements. And while
1:02:04
I am not supposed to say it, I
will.
1:02:07
Why were you not supposed to say
1:02:09
it? Because it's not politically
correct to say, read the next go
1:02:13
ahead. That she's not my type.
Because it's not politically
1:02:17
correct to say it, and I know
that but I'll say it anyway.
1:02:21
She's accusing me of a woman
that I have no idea who she is
1:02:25
the worst thing you can do the
worst charge. And, and you know,
1:02:31
it's you know, it's not true to
your political operative. Also
1:02:34
your disk. You're a disgrace.
But she's accusing me and so you
1:02:39
have, and it never took place.
And I will tell you, I made that
1:02:43
statement. I said, Well, it's
politically incorrect. She's not
1:02:47
my type. And that's 100%. True.
She's not my type.
1:02:50
You are referring to her
physical looks correct. Just the
1:02:54
overall not
1:02:55
my I look at her. I see her I
hear what she says. Whatever.
1:03:00
You wouldn't be a choice of mine
either. To be honest with you, I
1:03:02
hope you're not insulted. I
would not, under any
1:03:05
circumstances have any interest
in you. Be honest, when I say
1:03:10
it, the only difference between
me and other people as I'm
1:03:13
honest.
1:03:15
John C Dvorak: I love I was
watching some of the analysis of
1:03:19
this. And there are guys I know
are Trump haters on certain
1:03:22
networks. Yeah. And they just
thought it was the funniest
1:03:25
thing that because you have to
admire a guy who goes in a
1:03:29
deposition and he's calling out
the lawyer on the other side for
1:03:32
being
1:03:33
Adam Curry: not not as tight
homely. Just for people refresh
1:03:39
people's memory that was 2019
June 27 is when we have the clip
1:03:43
of E Jean Carroll talking to
Anderson Cooper, about about
1:03:47
this rape and what she thinks of
rape. You don't feel
1:03:50
Unknown: like a victim. I was
not thrown on the ground and
1:03:52
ravish which the word rape
carries so many sexual
1:03:56
connotations. This was not this
was not sexual. It just It hurt.
1:04:02
It just was it just you know, I
think
1:04:04
John C Dvorak: most people think
of rape as I mean it is a
1:04:07
violent assault. It is not I
think
1:04:09
Unknown: most people think of
rape as being sexy. Go to
1:04:13
commercial fantasies. We've just
got to take a quick break. If
1:04:18
you can stick around we'll talk
more fascinating to talk to you.
1:04:24
John C Dvorak: Oh wow, I forgot
about that.
1:04:27
Adam Curry: That's horrible for
that woman say that that's
1:04:29
horrible. Horrible.
1:04:33
John C Dvorak: And by the you
know in a dressing room Have you
1:04:36
ever been I've been in a number
of these do you have much
1:04:39
anymore, but in these department
stores had the dressing rooms
1:04:43
get through somebody on the
floors, no room in those things.
1:04:46
Not like a lounge
1:04:48
Adam Curry: you haven't been
into the women's dressing rooms.
1:04:50
They got definitely got lounges
in there as well. There's party
1:04:54
to get champagne bars and got
all kinds of stuff going in the
1:04:58
wrong store. At meanwhile, Oh,
it looks like MSNBC is
1:05:02
definitely trying to take down
President Biden, you know, as
1:05:06
you said, the word is out. It's
take down Biden time,
1:05:10
Unknown: in less than four
weeks, the government's going to
1:05:13
run out of money. And so many of
these economic winds could fall
1:05:17
by the wayside as president,
what are you going to do to help
1:05:21
us avoid default?
1:05:23
Look, look, look, not as long
ago solitary Congress has ever
1:05:27
reneged on a debt. The debt is
not a debt that I accumulated,
1:05:30
the debt is not a debt that
occurred over the last several
1:05:33
years. It's 200 years, the debt
200 years. And the idea that we
1:05:39
wouldn't pay our debt is
bizarre.
1:05:43
Adam Curry: You know, I've
always noticed this. I remember
1:05:48
Dave Winer would write about it,
you know, Dave and I, we
1:05:52
invented podcasting together.
But when it comes to the debt
1:05:57
ceiling, he's like, this is
where America is our full faith
1:06:01
and credit. I mean, of course,
we have to we have to print more
1:06:04
money, we have to borrow more
money. And I've never understood
1:06:07
that, that that it's like it's
embedded in people's brains. We
1:06:11
all know, what are you talking
about? That's just crazy talk.
1:06:15
We've we've always done that.
200 years. You heard the
1:06:18
President say it, and believe it
or not a economist of the of the
1:06:22
country, Nobel Peace Prize,
Nobel economic Prize winning
1:06:27
economist Paul Krugman, on May
3, says, again, minting a $1
1:06:33
trillion coin to prevent a debt
ceiling crisis is possible would
1:06:37
not be inflationary. How I mean,
is this. Am I crazy? I mean,
1:06:45
we've just we've heard this for
so many years. Though a trillion
1:06:52
dollar it could it be? It has to
be platinum. Best to be
1:06:55
platinum. It wouldn't wait
before
1:06:57
John C Dvorak: you go off and
off on this. You didn't have the
1:07:00
Trump are you talking about
Trump and the rape?
1:07:03
Adam Curry: Oh, well, I have I
have another Biden thing from
1:07:05
Stephanie. Rule two, I have
trumping the rape, which I would
1:07:09
trump in the rape. Is that a
show? Is that a show titled
1:07:11
Trump in the rape? No.
1:07:14
John C Dvorak: Rape would be
nice in the title. All right. I
1:07:16
just want to play these two
clips. One is just Trump. He
1:07:19
wants to change the venue for
the rape trial, or DOJ This is
1:07:25
no this isn't the Wright
brothers. The other trial bus,
1:07:27
you know, it's just a harassment
trial. This is the one for him
1:07:31
and his election fraud.
1:07:32
Unknown: And other news The
Trump legal team is reportedly
1:07:35
trying to move the former
president's criminal case from
1:07:38
New York City to a federal court
and if successful, they could
1:07:41
mean a more favorable outcome
for Trump. Shifting to federal
1:07:45
court could give Trump an
advantage because it would
1:07:48
expand the possible jury pool
outside of Manhattan where more
1:07:51
voters favored President Biden
and Democrats. A federal judge
1:07:55
would have to approve their
request. The 45th President
1:07:58
entered a not guilty plea to 34
felony counts of falsifying
1:08:02
business records. It's in
connection to payments that his
1:08:05
campaign made during the 2016
election to silence allegations
1:08:09
about an affair. Trump has
denied having an affair and also
1:08:13
denied any wrongdoing in the
case.
1:08:15
Adam Curry: It's quite a
stretch. The way they explain
1:08:19
what that trial is about it's
1:08:20
John C Dvorak: quite as Yeah, it
is kind of a stretch but but it
1:08:23
brought me to this old supercut
supercar this is this pretty
1:08:29
much the same kind of thing that
happened to John it may what
1:08:32
happened on air was it was right
to John Edwards case where he
1:08:36
actually not only had an affair
with a woman that he brought
1:08:39
bought off with campaign funds.
But she had a kid she had a
1:08:44
child by him and it was like, a
little more, more sleazy. I
1:08:48
think Trump went through But
Leslie but the mainstream media
1:08:52
meanwhile, doesn't have this
didn't have the same kind of
1:08:54
fire. We got Trump now he's
going to jail. Jails again.
1:08:59
Let's listen to how they treated
the John Edwards the same
1:09:03
mainstream media people with the
exception of a few got axed. In
1:09:06
the meantime, there are back in
the day
1:09:08
Unknown: growing questions
tonight over whether the
1:09:10
government overreached and its
indictment of former
1:09:12
presidential candidate John
Edwards Edwards is accused of
1:09:15
using campaign funds to hide an
extramarital affair.
1:09:19
There are growing questions over
the indictment a former
1:09:21
presidential candidate John
Edwards for allegedly using
1:09:24
campaign funds to hide an
affair. Did the government
1:09:27
overreach
1:09:27
This looks like one of those
things you read about in third
1:09:29
world countries or India
somewhere in Pakistan? When they
1:09:32
get somebody's been out of
office a couple of years get
1:09:34
them while they're down hit it
with some incredible charge with
1:09:36
campaign funding that nobody's
ever heard of before and put
1:09:39
them away for a while. It just
looks like revenge.
1:09:41
Adam Curry: Should we remind
everybody John Edwards was a
1:09:43
Democrat I think this you kind
of missed Oh, yes. John
1:09:45
John C Dvorak: Edwards was a
Democrat. Hello. Right. Right in
1:09:49
the setup there that is the main
thing to note that's the main
1:09:52
difference
1:09:53
Unknown: credible charge with
campaign funding that nobody's
1:09:55
ever heard of before and put
them away for a while. It just
1:09:58
looks like revenge against the
party. against somebody lost an
1:10:00
election,
1:10:01
even if most of the facts prove
true, there already is
1:10:04
controversy over whether it all
amounts to a federal crime
1:10:08
critics
1:10:08
blast the government's case
against the former presidential
1:10:11
candidate. Why they say what he
did may not have been against
1:10:14
the law today.
1:10:15
So I guess the question is, is
is CAD or criminal? I
1:10:19
mean, there are people who are
saying that this indictment is
1:10:21
very questionable. A Washington
Post editorial said it is
1:10:25
troubling that the Justice
Department would choose to
1:10:27
devote its scarce resources to
pursuing this questionable case.
1:10:31
Even some of those with no love
for AdWords are scratching their
1:10:34
heads over the charges.
1:10:35
Even some who find Edwards
behavior despicable question,
1:10:39
the strength of this case, leave
him alone.
1:10:42
I mean, why waste our effort on
that? What
1:10:44
are your what's your political
view? Do you think it's politics
1:10:46
and as prosecute? Was it just a
Republican US Attorney going
1:10:49
after this guy sticking around
to do the dirty work for the
1:10:51
Adam Curry: arts? Yeah, yeah.
Well, the difference is clear.
1:10:56
It was a Democrat versus a
1:10:57
John C Dvorak: Republican. But
of course, it was just to be
1:11:00
noted, It should be noted,
1:11:01
Adam Curry: I want to go back to
the trillion dollar coin for a
1:11:03
second because this is all part
of what is supposed to take down
1:11:06
Joe Biden. And Krugman who says
and he tweeted this, so you
1:11:11
know, is he's serious, quote,
the Fed would surely sterilize
1:11:15
any impact on the monetary base
by selling off some of its huge
1:11:19
portfolio of US debt, suggesting
the Fed would likely sell $1
1:11:24
trillion worth of government
bonds. In fact, he says, it's
1:11:27
more likely that the Federal
Reserve, the government would
1:11:30
issue premium bonds to avoid
default, then mint the $1
1:11:34
trillion coin, but he says the
trillion dollar coin would not
1:11:38
be inflated, it would not be
inflationary. And and he says
1:11:42
that the Fed Chairman probably
wouldn't accept it. I mean,
1:11:44
would you have some dude came up
and said, Hey, I got a trillion
1:11:47
dollar platinum could be wanted.
I don't think I'd accepted
1:11:50
either.
1:11:52
John C Dvorak: Somebody gave me
a trillion dollars worth of
1:11:54
platinum. No. Yeah, right. I
think is it 1200 bucks. I'm not
1:11:58
sure what it is announced. But
900 at 1200. That means,
1:12:02
Adam Curry: meanwhile, we just
have bank after bank going out
1:12:04
of business. This is kind of
fun. Now that works. Alright,
1:12:09
back to taking the take down of
President Joe Biden was
1:12:13
Stephanie rule, who is also a
finance Insider. The boys at the
1:12:18
trading floor loved her.
1:12:20
Unknown: He was officially
announced you're running for
1:12:22
reelection. And in your first
video, you feature vice
1:12:26
president Harris 10 times when
Obama was in that position? He
1:12:31
didn't mention you, sir. What
are you trying to tell us?
1:12:34
Adam Curry: Wow, what's the what
would the SIR business Stephanie
1:12:38
was pretty rude? Or what is she
trying to be? As this like I
1:12:43
John C Dvorak: was, I thought
that was a very rude way of
1:12:45
asking that question. In fact,
1:12:47
Adam Curry: I have a feeling
that these questions were
1:12:51
inserted later. You know how
they do an over the shoulder,
1:12:54
but
1:12:55
John C Dvorak: I don't believe
it. Now. They can't you you
1:12:57
think that's that's chicken
shit. Stephanie rule
1:13:01
Unknown: when Obama was in that
position? He didn't mention you,
1:13:05
sir. Sir. What are you trying to
tell us? Well,
1:13:09
Adam Curry: did you just laugh
at him? She laughed in his face.
1:13:14
Unknown: What are you trying to
tell us? Well,
1:13:18
Adam Curry: whether that was
edited or not, that's a lot. Now
1:13:21
that she laughed at him.
1:13:22
Unknown: What are you trying to?
1:13:24
Well, the President did well,
and I became very good friends.
1:13:29
I we just have a slightly
different style of how we do
1:13:33
things, as you recall. So every
major initiative President Obama
1:13:40
had, I was the last guy in the
room, deciding that with him
1:13:44
giving him any advice on what we
should do. And he's committed to
1:13:48
help in any way can this time
out? Whoa. But look, I just
1:13:52
think the Vice President Harris
hasn't gotten the credit she
1:13:55
deserves. She's an attorney in
the state of California. She has
1:14:01
been a United States Senator,
she is really very, very good.
1:14:05
And with everything going on,
she hasn't gotten the attention
1:14:08
she deserves.
1:14:10
Adam Curry: Well, she's getting
it now. Because she's in charge
1:14:14
of the AI. Danger, danger,
danger AI is going to take over
1:14:19
the world it's going to steal
your job. But luckily, Kamala
1:14:22
Harris, Vice President to the
rescue,
1:14:25
Unknown: the White House is now
signaling its support for some
1:14:28
rules and regulations
surrounding the launch, if you
1:14:31
will of artificial intelligence
as the new technology begins to
1:14:33
disrupt a number of industries
with some experts warning can
1:14:36
end up wreaking havoc on
society, if not properly
1:14:39
constrained, by administration
hosted a meeting today with a
1:14:42
number of big tech executives to
discuss the risks posed by AI
1:14:45
while also discussing potential
safeguards. And a statement the
1:14:48
vice president Kamala Harris,
who took part in the meeting
1:14:51
warned that AI has the quote,
potential to dramatically
1:14:53
increase threats to safety and
security, infringe on civil
1:14:57
rights and privacy and erode
public trust and faith.
1:15:00
democracy civil rights Exactly.
uplifting. Wait, wait,
1:15:03
Adam Curry: wait. Let's see.
Let's see those dangers again,
1:15:05
write them down. We want to make
sure that this doesn't happen
1:15:07
John C Dvorak: is like bull
crap. I mean, how how does it
1:15:11
have to do with any of this? So
I know I know what's going on
1:15:13
here. Hold
1:15:14
Unknown: on the statement, the
Vice President Kamala Harris,
1:15:15
who took part in the meeting
warned that AI has the glory
1:15:18
attention.
1:15:18
Adam Curry: Did she take part in
she lead the meeting, and I
1:15:21
think that that's a slam right
there from NBC. She led the
1:15:25
meeting Chuck
1:15:25
Unknown: statement, the Vice
President Kamala Harris, who
1:15:27
took part in the meeting warned
that AI has the potential to
1:15:30
dramatically increase threats to
safety and security and fringe
1:15:34
on civil rights and privacy and
erode public trust and faith in
1:15:37
democracy. Faith exactly
uplifting faith in democracy.
1:15:41
Today's meeting comes days after
the so called godfather of AI
1:15:44
says he left Google to more
freely speak out about the
1:15:46
dangers that technology can
pose.
1:15:49
Adam Curry: Alright, so a couple
things. This is the oldest trick
1:15:52
in the book. This is now
remember, our general thesis is
1:15:58
the ad market has gone
incredibly soft. The big tech
1:16:02
companies had staffed up during
COVID they tick tock caveman
1:16:07
started to threaten everybody's
business certainly met us
1:16:10
business and even Google's we
know fact that Google from
1:16:14
Google's own internal research
one out of two people search for
1:16:18
things on Tik Tok before they
search on Google Tik Tok has
1:16:21
entered the search ad market
place. And what do you do when
1:16:26
your notice who wasn't at the
table? Tik Tok wasn't at the
1:16:30
table bytedance wasn't at the
table that I'm aware of. You
1:16:33
know, all you do is you go you
go to the you go to the
1:16:36
government you say look, we got
a new thing here. This is the
1:16:39
new new thing. It's the hot
thing everybody wants it. AI is
1:16:44
what can we can call ai ai is is
the new blockchain. Yeah, that's
1:16:49
it. AI is the new blockchain
blockchain blockchain. Do we
1:16:52
remember blockchain horror
1:16:53
John C Dvorak: horror was an I
used to come at during the
1:16:55
heyday of blockchain. Now, these
these moribund companies would
1:17:00
come up and all of a sudden
introduced we're gonna have
1:17:03
blockchain they just say the
word and the stock would go up
1:17:06
five point riot was famous. Now
it's the same thing with AI, the
1:17:10
stock goes right up.
1:17:11
Adam Curry: Yep. So what do you
what do you want to do is you
1:17:14
want to make sure that and this
is why we had this letter signed
1:17:18
the open letter by Elon Musk,
who as you notice has no AI
1:17:22
play, he doesn't have a play. So
that was all ordered, slow down,
1:17:26
but slow down by six, six
months, at least. So by can
1:17:29
catch up with my AI play. So
it's the new blockchain and then
1:17:35
the getting ahead of the game
this time. This is we need a new
1:17:39
or expanded section 230
Something that new entrants into
1:17:43
the AI space cannot compete with
because they won't have the
1:17:48
money. This is the old that's
why it's communist job. We all
1:17:51
know what the idea is here.
They're all there in DC, not for
1:17:55
this dumb meeting, that they're
at every one every senator and
1:17:59
Congressman's door. I'm talking
about, you know, what kind of
1:18:02
legislation can we put in place
of no other people can get into
1:18:04
our coveted AI space? By gotta
go do the stupid meeting with
1:18:09
the Vice President for a minute
photo op. That's all they of
1:18:12
course, they want regulation.
They love it. They want the
1:18:15
regulation so they can own the
space. And that just does.
1:18:19
John C Dvorak: Yeah, absolutely.
This is the general no agenda
1:18:23
thesis how you
1:18:24
Adam Curry: do it. Now you heard
in that report. And we discussed
1:18:27
this on the last show that the
godfather of AI that he had left
1:18:32
Google so he could speak freely
about it. Because I don't know
1:18:36
if Google like some kind of
Gulag where you can't talk. Like
1:18:39
when you work there. It's like,
oh, you can't discuss anything.
1:18:43
What
1:18:43
John C Dvorak: we should
mention. If all this is true,
1:18:46
they would have had him sign an
NDA upon his resignation for a
1:18:50
pot of money. And he wouldn't be
talking at all. So he's out
1:18:54
there talking because he's
allowed to talk or they move on
1:18:57
him to talk or something
1:18:59
Adam Curry: on tables or talk
may be the right one. And the
1:19:02
big get was for PBS. PBS News
Hour, completely independent.
1:19:09
They have the get and we know
the guy's name now. He has three
1:19:13
names, like any criminal, Jeff
Bennett, Jeffrey Hilton Hinton,
1:19:19
Jeff Bennett. No, it can't be
it. Geoffrey Hinton I don't even
1:19:23
know the guy's name. Let's
listen to him.
1:19:24
Unknown: This has been a week
where concerns over the rapidly
1:19:27
expanding use of artificial
intelligence and I think
1:19:29
Adam Curry: the general Jeff
Bennett is the PBS guy Geoffrey
1:19:32
Hinton, Geoffrey Hinton, this AI
guy, I've misread my own titles
1:19:36
Unknown: resonated loudly in
Washington and around the world
1:19:39
Adam Curry: row resonated
loudly. It was it was the was
1:19:42
the the resignation heard around
the world,
1:19:46
Unknown: Vice President Carter
the guy.
1:19:49
Adam Curry: Let's do that,
again,
1:19:50
Unknown: resonated loudly in
Washington and around the world.
1:19:54
Vice President Kamala Harris met
yesterday with top executives
1:19:57
from companies leading in AI
development my Microsoft Google
1:20:01
Open AI and anthropic the
anthropic, as President
1:20:04
discussed some of the growing
risks and told the companies
1:20:07
they had a, quote, moral
obligation to develop AI safely.
1:20:11
That meeting came just days
after one of the leading voices
1:20:15
in the field of AI. Dr. Geoffrey
Hinton, announced he was
1:20:18
quitting Google over his worries
about the future of AI, and what
1:20:22
it could eventually lead to
unchecked. We're going to hear
1:20:25
about some of those concerns now
with Dr. Geoffrey Hinton, who
1:20:28
joins me from London.
1:20:30
Adam Curry: See us escape to
London doing in London is with
1:20:33
the coronation, of course, time
to party down
1:20:35
Unknown: what are those risks?
As you see it,
1:20:37
there are quite a few different
risks. There's the risk of
1:20:42
producing a lot of fake news so
nobody knows what's true
1:20:45
anymore.
1:20:46
Adam Curry: And we need AI for
that. We need
1:20:48
John C Dvorak: AI for that
Macedonia did the job just fine.
1:20:51
Yeah. How
1:20:52
Adam Curry: about the troll
farms? They were great. We don't
1:20:54
know farm need AI? May be
cheaper, but okay.
1:20:58
John C Dvorak: Is it even
cheaper
1:20:59
Unknown: to have encouraging
polarization? By getting people
1:21:04
to click on things that make
them indignant?
1:21:06
John C Dvorak: What do you mean?
What you mean, clickbait me
1:21:09
like, Hey, I can't do clickbait
we do clickbait the American
1:21:14
creative types do clickbait and
we do
1:21:17
Adam Curry: it great. We do we
do. We do great clickbait,
1:21:21
Unknown: there's the risk of
putting people out of work, that
1:21:25
it should be that when we make
things more productive, when we
1:21:28
greatly increase productivity,
it helps everybody. But there's
1:21:31
let me
1:21:32
Adam Curry: stop that for a
second. i It is my belief that
1:21:36
no matter and I do not think AI
is any risk or any opportunity,
1:21:40
honestly, I mean, there's some
writing opportunities, okay.
1:21:43
It's a large language model. So
it can do writing stuff very
1:21:46
good. With as with every new
technology, stuff has to go
1:21:51
away. And then there's and jobs
go away. And then there's new
1:21:55
jobs for that new opportunities.
Isn't that what it always is?
1:21:59
It's not like us the way tech
works, the tea the PC revolution
1:22:03
did not lead everybody job was
created millions of jobs. Be
1:22:08
even the one that the automobile
all the buggy drivers. Oh, they
1:22:12
were going after that, what do
we get? We get cab drivers. And
1:22:16
then Uber came along, and then
everybody was a cab driver, it
1:22:19
only gets better, right? This is
patently not true. But there's
1:22:23
Unknown: the worry that it might
just help the rich. And then
1:22:25
there's the risk that I like to
1:22:27
John C Dvorak: help the rich
help the rich, brother,
1:22:31
communist.
1:22:33
Unknown: But there's the worry
that it might just help the
1:22:35
rich. And then there's the risk
that I want to talk about.
1:22:40
John C Dvorak: We interrupt
these fictitious clips in much.
1:22:42
Yeah, it's my worry. Yes. That
this will help the rich. Yeah.
1:22:48
Why is he worried about it
helping the rich he did to do? I
1:22:52
would have originally to help
and Jugaad let's don't let them
1:22:55
get helped by AI is helping the
rich somehow you call that he's
1:23:00
sanity? He's a
1:23:01
Adam Curry: commie? You called
it? He if you left Google as the
1:23:04
godfather of AI, do you not have
any stock? Any options? Are you
1:23:09
not rich, but hope he was maybe
that's why he left
1:23:13
John C Dvorak: or maybe the
whole thing is a scam these guys
1:23:15
work there. It should
1:23:17
Unknown: be that when we make
things more productive, when we
1:23:20
greatly increase productivity,
it helps everybody. But there's
1:23:23
the worry that it might just
help the rich. And then there's
1:23:26
the risk that I want to talk
about many other people talking
1:23:28
about those other risks,
including risks of bias and
1:23:31
discrimination. So I want to
talk about a different risk,
1:23:34
which is the risk of super
intelligent AI, taking over
1:23:38
control from people.
1:23:42
Adam Curry: Okay, last clip,
let's hear about this.
1:23:46
Unknown: Is there any turning
back when you say that there
1:23:49
will come a time when AI is more
intelligent than us? Is there
1:23:52
any coming back from that?
1:23:54
I don't know. We're entering a
time of great uncertainty where
1:23:58
we're dealing with kinds of
things we've never dealt with
1:24:01
before. It's as if aliens have
landed. But we didn't really
1:24:05
take it in because they speak
good English.
1:24:07
How should we think differently
than about artificial
1:24:10
intelligence,
1:24:12
we should realize that we're
probably going to get things
1:24:16
more intelligent than us quite
soon. And they will be
1:24:19
wonderful. There'll be able to
do all sorts of things very
1:24:22
easily that we find very
difficult. So there's huge
1:24:25
positive potential in these
things. But of course, there's
1:24:28
also huge negative
possibilities. And I think we
1:24:31
should put more or less equal
resources into developing AI to
1:24:34
make it much more powerful, and
into figuring out how to keep it
1:24:37
under control and how to
minimize bad side effects of it.
1:24:43
Adam Curry: Congratulations on
that great get PBS news hour.
1:24:48
John C Dvorak: Do you understand
what he told me? Absolutely. No,
1:24:51
of
1:24:51
Adam Curry: course is nothing
because the guy is a dope. And
1:24:55
what was his biggest invention?
How do you How can you be the
1:24:58
godfather of AI? What did you
do? I know what I did for
1:25:01
podcasting. Why In fact, I'm
called the godfather of
1:25:03
podcasting. I saw RSS said, hey,
put an attachment in there and I
1:25:08
said no and I can say it in one
in one paragraph. Yeah, you
1:25:12
John C Dvorak: can't because
you're the guy that did it.
1:25:14
Right. So
1:25:14
Adam Curry: what this guy do and
by the well, you know
1:25:17
John C Dvorak: what? You know,
what do I have to ask you, you
1:25:20
know what you're supposed to
work.
1:25:23
Adam Curry: Try it again.
1:25:24
John C Dvorak: Hey, guess what?
Let's look him up in the
1:25:28
Wikipedia and see exactly what
he did was named Jack Kirby.
1:25:36
Adam Curry: Jeffery Kirby
Jeffrey with a GE o Freo de GGO.
1:25:42
Geoffrey Hinton Hinton Hinton
Here we go. Jeffers,
1:25:47
John C Dvorak: look him up.
Hinton okay. This is the way we
1:25:49
do it on this show because you
were gas bags as it is. That's
1:25:53
right. Okay. 76. He's a British
and
1:25:56
Adam Curry: British Canadian,
British Canadian.
1:25:58
John C Dvorak: He worked on
neural nets, which is not AI.
1:26:01
Okay is beside the point.
1:26:03
Adam Curry: Google Brain. Google
Brain was Google
1:26:07
John C Dvorak: Brain. And
1:26:08
Adam Curry: that was that was
their AI that was that was
1:26:11
Sergey Brin. That was what Musk
said Sergey Brin stole everybody
1:26:15
to work on Google Brain. Google
Brain didn't win any chess match
1:26:19
that was deep blue.
1:26:21
John C Dvorak: So hidden,
received the 2018 Turing Award,
1:26:23
which is a big deal, who is the
ASHA Bengio and Yan Laocoon. for
1:26:29
their work on deep learning,
they are sometimes referred to
1:26:32
as the godfathers of AI in 2018.
Ai beams told trend began in the
1:26:38
80s. Do he but he popularized
the back propagation algorithm,
1:26:47
or training multi layer neural
nets, which again, that's
1:26:51
question
1:26:52
Adam Curry: that's PageRank,
isn't it?
1:26:55
John C Dvorak: what back
propagation is back propagation
1:26:58
Adam Curry: is part of an
algorithm that is
1:26:59
John C Dvorak: a widely used
algorithm for training feed
1:27:01
forward artificial neural nets
or other parameterised networks
1:27:05
with differentiate the nodes.
That's an official hold on we
1:27:09
read the whole thing.
1:27:11
Adam Curry: And open it he's a
mathematician he is dad was a
1:27:14
mathematician. He's a math guy
and a math guy math dude. All
1:27:17
right. Okay, well, impressive.
What is on it? He has a
1:27:23
homepage, which is homepage of
Oh my god. It always missing
1:27:28
he's old
1:27:29
John C Dvorak: enough to be the
father of something. Yeah.
1:27:32
Adam Curry: His homepage. It
looks like it should have Blink
1:27:35
tags. What are those? I
generated it with Emacs. That's
1:27:43
in fact, when we take a look at
he better he built this with
1:27:45
Emacs.
1:27:46
John C Dvorak: Is this his
website in Toronto? Eds? Yes.
1:27:49
Oh, that's probably the ad
they'll give Toronto probably
1:27:52
put this together. Looks like
this college website.
1:27:56
Adam Curry: Looks like something
he would have done himself with
1:27:58
Emacs. Terrible. Yes. With list.
Alright, let's get off of that
1:28:03
trigger. ike.org/na.
1:28:06
John C Dvorak: There you go. So
Lisp,
1:28:10
Adam Curry: I have one more
candidates who's running for
1:28:13
president. And after we play
this clip, it will be guaranteed
1:28:17
he will never ever be president
I fear for his life. In fact,
1:28:22
John C Dvorak: you Kennedy Yeah.
Yeah, he did. But they won't get
1:28:26
close enough that they have to
do anything about it.
1:28:28
Adam Curry: Well, he opened up
about a bio weaponry and this is
1:28:32
from his book, but I've never
heard it told this concisely.
1:28:36
It's important to think the
American people, maybe the
1:28:38
people of the world need to hear
this. So you understand exactly
1:28:42
where COVID came from. So
1:28:46
Unknown: we went to war, we pass
the Patriot Act, and immediately
1:28:50
started giving $2 billion a year
to bio weapons development. The
1:28:54
Pentagon didn't want to do it
because it was nervous about the
1:28:57
legality, because it was a death
penalty to violate the Geneva
1:29:02
Convention. Oh, you would have
been committing a you know, a
1:29:06
war crime. Even if somebody told
you it was okay. It wasn't. And
1:29:12
so they funneled it through
Teatre and DARPA, They funneled
1:29:16
all of that money.
1:29:18
Adam Curry: Did you ask
something? No.
1:29:23
Unknown: Hang on. And so they
funneled it through Teatre and
1:29:28
DARPA, They funneled all that
money. And I age to Nia ID which
1:29:35
became the primary spear tip of
bio weapons development. So Tony
1:29:41
Fauci became the bio weapons are
in 2001. Is budget went up by
1:29:46
$2.2 billion. He was personally
given a 68% raise from the
1:29:51
military. That's why he was the
highest paid individual in the
1:29:56
federal government. Because he
was getting this 68% Bonus every
1:30:01
year from the military. But it
meant that he could not stop.
1:30:06
And the thing the military
wanted was getting a function
1:30:09
studies where they could take
wild viruses and turn them into
1:30:14
bio weapons. And bio weapons
development always includes
1:30:18
vaccine development. Because
unlike chemical weapons, with
1:30:22
bio weapons, there's always
blowback is called the boomerang
1:30:25
effect. If you give your enemy
bubonic plague, your guy's gonna
1:30:29
get it first two are gonna get
it quickly. So the only way you
1:30:35
can deploy a bio weapons if you
have already developed a
1:30:38
vaccine, so the race is to
develop a vaccine simultaneously
1:30:43
via weapons, and then you can
deploy the bio weapons and your
1:30:46
enemy will take a couple of
years to develop the vaccine.
1:30:51
And you can inoculate all of
your team. So in 2014, three of
1:30:58
Tony Fauci these bugs escaped
from federal labs. And they
1:31:04
their escapes were public. And
it caused a huge brouhaha. There
1:31:12
were Senate hearings, and people
were immensely upset. And, and
1:31:18
300, scientists, wrote letter
wrote a petition to President
1:31:22
Obama saying you have to shut
down Tony Fauci. He's gonna
1:31:26
cause a global pandemic. When
Obama declared a moratorium and
1:31:31
to hold Fauci or to Fauci to
shut down the ATM studies he was
1:31:36
doing. As I show in my book, he
didn't do it. He instead took
1:31:41
that science. And he moved it
offshore to the Wuhan lab and to
1:31:45
the Ukraine. And when he did
that, he was not the only one
1:31:51
who did it. Tony Fauci spent
about $29 million on gain of
1:31:58
function science in Wuhan. But
the CIA spent over $100 million.
1:32:04
And the military spend about
that much to about 64 million.
1:32:09
And they, the CIA funneled the
money, most of it through USA
1:32:14
ID. But they also the CIA, as we
now know, was also running this
1:32:22
organization called the Eco
Health Alliance. Which Fauci was
1:32:26
funneling his money through, it
was like a laundromat where they
1:32:30
funneled federal monies so that
it was so that their
1:32:34
fingerprints would not be would
not be visible on them.
1:32:37
Adam Curry: Yeah, he's not going
to be precedent. Wow.
1:32:41
John C Dvorak: So yeah,
believable. I do have a I think
1:32:44
this is from 2008.
1:32:45
Adam Curry: I don't know when
there's not room. I have no
1:32:47
idea.
1:32:48
John C Dvorak: No, not not. No.
I've seen it. I think I have oh,
1:32:51
you're what I had.
1:32:52
Adam Curry: Okay. Hello, hello.
Who's calling?
1:32:56
John C Dvorak: You know who? I
listen to Mark Levin the other
1:32:59
day, he's always going Hello.
May does that
1:33:02
Adam Curry: what this you know,
you're one of the few people who
1:33:05
still has an am radio. I do.
I've been in your
1:33:08
John C Dvorak: car. I do have an
FM radio in the car too, you
1:33:12
know. But here what's
interesting is, I have this clip
1:33:17
coming up as dynamite. But the
am radio quality and the newer
1:33:22
cars, comparatives, I have an
old Lexus, and it's just
1:33:27
deteriorated on purpose. Now, as
I take my Lexus into have it
1:33:33
fixed, and I get a loaner. I get
a brand new one. Yeah, and drive
1:33:37
around and turn on the am radio.
It sounds like short wave from
1:33:42
the 20s.
1:33:43
Adam Curry: Well, the here's the
problem. Am radio is no longer
1:33:46
being put into cars, because
half the cars that people will
1:33:52
be buying will be electric. And
there's so much gear now in
1:33:57
these in these cars that you
can't get away from the
1:34:01
interference. Yeah. Just here
that you you cannot use and no
1:34:07
one wants to good effect can
only be done with these
1:34:11
temporary teeth, interestingly.
1:34:14
John C Dvorak: Alright, well,
anyway, so here's Fauci. I think
1:34:17
this is in 2008. Yes, I see
where he's slyly working on his
1:34:21
scheme that was just outlined by
Kennedy, his scheme to get
1:34:25
around as gain of function
thing. This may have been later
1:34:28
or earlier, but this was at some
point where he had to, he knew
1:34:32
the gain of function was yet was
under pressure. And this is and
1:34:35
he was slyly working, working
out his scheme. And here he is.
1:34:40
Unknown: Anyway, so let me just
go on about NIH lifts, funding
1:34:44
pause on gain of function
research. So let me explain this
1:34:48
a little. Because whenever this
comes out, there's always the
1:34:52
pushing back and forth from the
press. So like NIH now is going
1:34:57
to do dangerous research. No
extra matter of fact is is
1:35:00
exactly the opposite. So a
framework has been now
1:35:03
established to guide funding
decisions on proposed research
1:35:09
that might be anticipated to
create, transfer or use enhanced
1:35:14
potential pandemic pathogens.
The program, everybody has to
1:35:19
have a neat little name to it.
This is called p3 SEO. So if you
1:35:24
hear about p3 SEO, its potential
pandemic preparedness, care and
1:35:30
oversight. Now, why is this
different from everything else
1:35:35
we've been doing? It's different
because remember the trouble we
1:35:39
used to get in when someone
would do an experiment, they
1:35:42
would submit it to a journal.
And just as it's getting ready
1:35:45
to go out, everybody would start
scrambling around. Should we be
1:35:48
publishing should it not? So we
decided to go upstream from that
1:35:53
and talk about decisions that
are made by government funded
1:35:57
remember, we have no control
over things that are not funded
1:36:00
by the government, but in
government funded activities to
1:36:04
guide the funding decision
before you actually do the
1:36:08
experiment. I don't think this
is going to be foolproof things
1:36:11
are gonna slip through that I
think this is a much better
1:36:14
approach than we've had before.
1:36:17
Adam Curry: That's the goal in
Westminster. There was Tony
1:36:20
Fauci with his cane and his
hooded, ghoulish outfit.
1:36:25
John C Dvorak: It's
unbelievable. And it's been
1:36:29
going on forever. It's just
Kennedy points out. Sorry, been
1:36:33
going on forever, as Kennedy
points out. And we can't seem to
1:36:39
put a stop to it in fact, and if
it was if it's punishable by
1:36:43
death, hey, let's find some
people up who's the who's behind
1:36:47
all this where's the punishable
by death? Take places like, you
1:36:52
know, kind of saber rattling
about this sort of thing and
1:36:55
we're just doing it openly.
1:36:57
Adam Curry: Yeah, well,
1:36:58
John C Dvorak: who's gonna you
know, foul punishable by who's
1:37:00
who's gonna punish anybody by
death?
1:37:02
Adam Curry: Yeah, yeah. Collins
is, you know, there are probably
1:37:05
buying homes in Argentina. And
you're telling me that that
1:37:10
Lexus gives you a loaner car?
Yeah. When you bring that when
1:37:13
you bring that Junker in, they
say, Oh, hi, Mr. Dvorak. Boy,
1:37:18
nice to see this 20 year old
vehicle again, here's a loaner
1:37:22
vehicle. Really? Yeah.
1:37:24
John C Dvorak: You just You just
when you call in to get your
1:37:26
appointment, you say I need a
loaner. And they
1:37:28
Adam Curry: give you a new
Lexus. Yeah. Wow, well, that's
1:37:33
good service.
1:37:34
John C Dvorak: Lexus per Lexus
is the best I mean, that way,
1:37:38
you know, and my third
1:37:41
Adam Curry: Well, since we're
talking about Big Pharma in a
1:37:45
way and obviously the Wuhan
whatever this this if it was
1:37:50
real at all, whatever this this,
this COVID was they didn't have
1:37:55
the vaccine ready that's for
sure. That whole thing is that
1:38:00
what a huge scam let's not let's
not let that happen to us again.
1:38:05
John C Dvorak: This is the
latest out of the knows what
1:38:07
they're developing.
1:38:08
Adam Curry: Here's the latest
out of Big Pharma land crushing
1:38:12
entire industries.
1:38:13
Unknown: After 40 years of
helping people to shed pounds
1:38:16
Jenny Craig is shutting its
entire workforce and going out
1:38:20
of business. It's closing all of
its nearly 500 Weight Loss
1:38:24
centers in the US and Canada and
canceling all subscriptions,
1:38:27
coaching sessions, food orders
and sales. Weight Loss services
1:38:31
like Jenny Craig have been
struggling to keep up with
1:38:33
competition from prescription
drugs like ozempic
1:38:37
John C Dvorak: buy em There you
go to play for ozempic Yeah, but
1:38:40
Adam Curry: I believe it and
remember Oprah's weightwatchers
1:38:45
also known as WW because now
they rebranded they bought the
1:38:48
tele health company to
telemedicine company that can
1:38:53
prescribe this stuff right on
the app right over the phone.
1:38:58
John C Dvorak: Yes, gusting
1:38:59
Adam Curry: yeah well. Wait
until that new and the Eli Lilly
1:39:02
one gets on the market and
people start using it. You're
1:39:04
gonna see people just withering
away right before your eyes
1:39:07
don't look great as their hair
falls flat Olympic face this is
1:39:16
not an outstanding product
people please do not use this. I
1:39:20
mean I can't give medical advice
but I don't think it's an
1:39:23
outstanding product seems like
something very oh don't even be
1:39:28
even singing it is like just bad
bad bad bad bad. All right, now
1:39:34
one more thing we only have one
break today because your your
1:39:38
excellent Cinco Demayo on Cinco
de acepto
1:39:42
John C Dvorak: No, that wasn't
it at all. There was bad things
1:39:45
a miss.
1:39:45
Adam Curry: Have you sent the
newsletter out 20 times. Okay,
1:39:49
twice. What happened?
1:39:53
John C Dvorak: The newsletter
seemed that I think there's a
1:39:55
MailChimp they did something
wrong. I got an I did a second
1:39:58
sin because First and didn't
trigger a posting on Twitter,
1:40:03
which is supposed to do.
1:40:05
Adam Curry: Oh, they the algo
got got algo the API API API
1:40:12
access because they don't want
1:40:13
John C Dvorak: to pay happened.
Yeah, they got down, right. So
1:40:16
down ranked. And so I looked at
the number of the number of
1:40:21
opens, it was way off at about
730. So something's amiss. So I
1:40:27
sent a newsletter out a second
time. And I got some feedback.
1:40:32
Hey, and
1:40:34
Adam Curry: was that the
feedback? One drunk guy at one
1:40:39
John C Dvorak: get posted
either. So you know, either male
1:40:42
chimps gotta get its act
together. And if they can, they
1:40:44
can afford it. I mean, it's not
as though it's a company at
1:40:46
starving to death.
1:40:49
Adam Curry: Well, you don't
know. I mean, the all these
1:40:51
companies did you get substack
it's so desperate, they're
1:40:56
crowdfunding their next
investment round. I mean, this
1:41:00
is bad stuff is bad. And I
thought that I for sure, I
1:41:05
thought substack was wildly
profitable. They're just not how
1:41:10
could How can you get people
paying left and right, it must
1:41:13
be I'm telling you right now. It
must be because they have to
1:41:16
shell out at least 150 grand and
this is 2008 prices. It was 100
1:41:23
or 150 grand a month to get
whitelisted by Google and
1:41:29
outlook and a couple other you
know there's there's trusted
1:41:34
companies that this is one of
the biggest scams in Silicon
1:41:37
Valley is emails to be trusted
to get through and I bet you
1:41:41
they just can't they just can't
afford it anymore. And I do not
1:41:45
think that MailChimp has that
kind of money either it's bad
1:41:50
out there email is I have to
sadly say email is broken for
1:41:56
Good is broken for good. We
should just give it up to me Why
1:42:01
don't you should just
1:42:02
John C Dvorak: make calling
everybody personally send me a
1:42:04
phone number you can
1:42:08
Adam Curry: seriously it's
broken but even that I spoke to
1:42:13
the CEO start nine he familiar
start nine now start nine as a
1:42:18
company and they are building
it's like Umbro only they're
1:42:22
taking it very, very seriously.
Self hosting at home. And they
1:42:27
they've got their selling
hardware, you can you can
1:42:29
download there, they built an
operating system. So not a bunch
1:42:32
of Dockers connected to each
other, but an actual operating
1:42:35
system that you could even get
it on purism hardware, which is
1:42:39
you know, the open source
hardware that was built, you
1:42:42
know, supposedly with no spy
things in there, which is also
1:42:47
quite popular amongst the the
OTG crowd and they're they're
1:42:53
replicating all these services
you know, next cloud for your
1:42:56
for your Google stuff, you know,
you can host your own blog with
1:43:00
ghosts, they have clear net so
it'll be you know, actually on
1:43:04
your available on an IP address,
you know, with with SSL, so it'd
1:43:08
be you can really, the idea is
to supplant big tech and do it
1:43:12
all at home, the one thing they
just gave up on was email, we
1:43:17
can never make it work because
even if we can set it all up,
1:43:21
and you can still use a separate
SMTP provider, but we still
1:43:25
can't guarantee your email will
arrive because big tech has just
1:43:28
completely screwed up in Google
in particular. I've screwed that
1:43:33
up I've just made sure No forget
about it. We control that we own
1:43:37
it. And they do. Because most
people are so stupid. They all
1:43:40
fell for the Gmail thing. Oh,
it's free look Gmail is great.
1:43:46
So email is broken forever. It's
too bad. It was kind of a cool
1:43:49
protocol. But I think you should
go back and publish it on RSS
1:43:53
John the newsletter yeah
1:43:58
John C Dvorak: yeah. Yeah, so
yeah, he
1:44:01
Adam Curry: said I might as well
do my review right now of of the
1:44:08
light phone.
1:44:11
John C Dvorak: Oh, yes. You
finally got your your light to
1:44:12
phone I did. OTG going routine.
Everybody. I've always once
1:44:19
again, kind of guy OTG going Oh
no. Dng guy the guy. Yeah.
1:44:31
Adam Curry: OTG off the grid
haven't been that way for a
1:44:33
while decided to give it another
try. Now that pretty much
1:44:36
everything I use in my life is
available on a computer and I
1:44:40
find myself checking my phone
too much even though I have a
1:44:43
graphene OS. So I suppose not
too much spyware, and I splurt
1:44:48
it in a drawer. Well, you know,
but for when I'm driving, I
1:44:52
don't want to take it with me.
When I go out to dinner with my
1:44:55
wife I don't want to take it
would be for a number of
1:44:57
reasons. One is I don't want to
be looking at my Phone. And I
1:45:01
only want someone to be able to
reach me. Like if you need to
1:45:04
reach me, you can send me a text
message or call me. And that's
1:45:07
pretty much all I need. But the
light phone.
1:45:11
John C Dvorak: Why do you need
to be reached?
1:45:13
Adam Curry: While I'm an
important person? I mean, what
1:45:15
if the podcast index.org goes
down? Yeah, hmm. What if what if
1:45:21
you need to say the website has
been updated to sell? You know,
1:45:26
one of those
1:45:26
John C Dvorak: comic strip
blogger? Okay, but yeah, I
1:45:28
Adam Curry: do get those emails
from you. Right?
1:45:33
John C Dvorak: Yeah, but it
doesn't mean you have to act
1:45:34
instantly. Well, it's not a
surgeon on call.
1:45:38
Adam Curry: Well, maybe, maybe
have other hobbies that you
1:45:42
don't know about? I need to be
on call. But okay. Do you want
1:45:44
me to do the segment? I just
want to be a dick. I mean, you
1:45:46
tell me I doubt a guy would like
both. Okay, let me do the
1:45:49
segment and be a dick with
little little increments not
1:45:52
like let me get started at
least. You want to clip five
1:45:59
gold? Clip $599 The light
phone.com
1:46:06
John C Dvorak: Isn't that a
little steep?
1:46:09
Adam Curry: Um, I think it's
kind of on par with a with a if
1:46:14
you bought a an older model of
Android phone on Amazon. New in
1:46:20
the box to that. It's okay. It
is in fact a very light version
1:46:26
of Android I believe that runs
it. The thing John, you will you
1:46:30
actually I may have to send this
for as a Christmas gift for you.
1:46:33
You will love this phone.
Because it is the size is it's
1:46:38
smaller than a cigarette box in
dimension of course, much
1:46:41
thinner, obviously. So it's all
remember the old there was a
1:46:44
Nokia phone but a smallest phone
in the world way back in the
1:46:48
day, but fit right in the palm
of your hand. You remember that?
1:46:52
I
1:46:52
John C Dvorak: thought it was
Motorola but yes moto small
1:46:55
phones that we had been
manufactured in the past very
1:46:57
small. So it's
1:46:58
Adam Curry: kind of like that.
And it has a an E Ink screen. So
1:47:04
it doesn't have you know, it's
like a Kindle basically. And the
1:47:08
only thing that you can do on it
which is more than I expected to
1:47:11
be honest. Is a phone and
imported my contacts perfectly
1:47:16
as a calendar imported and syncs
with with my my current calendar
1:47:22
system. It'll work with
anything, including next cloud.
1:47:26
It has an alarm, which you can
set alarms, that's the BBB. for
1:47:30
that. It has notes. I like to
notes because notes you can
1:47:33
write them or you can record
them. I always like doing that
1:47:37
like a dictaphone. I have not
tried it yourself. Yes, exactly.
1:47:42
I have not tried it yet, but it
has directions of the called
1:47:47
directions in it. So it does
have some kind of now, no, no go
1:47:53
of navigation. Which is amazing.
It has a podcast player, which
1:48:02
is surprisingly easy. I know you
can't update anything on the
1:48:06
phone. You have to do it on the
on the website on their
1:48:08
dashboard to add podcast. But it
works it will do Bluetooth with
1:48:12
your headset. It has a
calculator not unimportant. And
1:48:18
finally it has a hotspot. So you
could bring your laptop if you
1:48:22
really needed access and you
didn't have it you could turn
1:48:24
into a hotspot. It is a
wonderful, I mean a wonderful
1:48:29
little thing. And it has a
QWERTY keyboard if you want if
1:48:33
you need to reply back to a
text, you can also I don't know
1:48:36
what service is providing this
we can also do voice to text. It
1:48:40
doesn't sound very OTG to me.
But I have to say John I am this
1:48:45
is I've only had it for a day it
arrived yesterday. I'm loving
1:48:50
going out with the dog. There's
nothing very lightest I almost
1:48:54
feel it in my pocket. I can
listen to my favorite podcast,
1:48:58
which is d h unplugged. Of
course. It also has a music
1:49:02
player, but I don't listen to
music on anything on my phone. I
1:49:06
don't care too much about it.
And that's it. And that's that's
1:49:08
all that it does. It doesn't do
images, it doesn't have a
1:49:11
camera. If someone sends you
text messages with an emoji the
1:49:14
emojis will show up. You cannot
send any text back with emojis.
1:49:19
And that's it. And I think this
is perfect. I think this is this
1:49:22
is what All kids should have.
And that's mainly why I reviewed
1:49:25
it. This is what your kid should
have. Your kid can do some stuff
1:49:29
that's educational and good and
nothing else. And when they come
1:49:31
home, they can do stuff on the
computer. I'm very impressed by
1:49:35
this device. I don't know about
the battery life yet. We'll see.
1:49:38
I mean that's a mistake. I've
had it I unplugged it today and
1:49:43
it's at 98% but haven't done
anything with it. The Lightroom
1:49:48
I think you I think you'll enjoy
it.
1:49:49
John C Dvorak: I'm gonna say you
like it so much. You're gonna
1:49:52
send it to me. No, I'm
1:49:53
Adam Curry: gonna I'm gonna buy
a new one for you.
1:49:57
John C Dvorak: I'll tell you
right now, not to bother now.
1:50:00
too much money.
1:50:02
Adam Curry: What do you mean?
It's too much? What would the
1:50:04
price point be? That's perfect
for you?
1:50:08
John C Dvorak: $99 I think it'd
be okay. Okay 40 Now it'd be
1:50:12
better
1:50:13
Adam Curry: so you'd rather have
your take your your your clunky
1:50:18
distracting android phone with
you when you leave the house.
1:50:23
John C Dvorak: I don't take the
phone with me when I leave the
1:50:25
house. Oh, well, I'm going to
Chicago on my take a phone
1:50:29
Adam Curry: when you drive
around. You don't take a phone
1:50:31
in case something. Oh,
1:50:32
John C Dvorak: I do not. I know
how to get around.
1:50:35
Adam Curry: Emergency what if?
What if you would like help?
1:50:38
I've fallen I can't get up.
1:50:40
John C Dvorak: Yeah, well, then
that hasn't happened. Okay,
1:50:43
Adam Curry: all right. You're
special. Everybody's special.
1:50:46
John C Dvorak: I'm like, this is
the way the world used to be.
1:50:50
Nobody went around in the 60s
and 70s with a phone worried to
1:50:55
death. I mean, some people
carried around a pager because
1:50:58
it was they felt so important
that they had to get BBB BBB Oh,
1:51:04
my wife got home I now I know my
wife got who cares?
1:51:08
Adam Curry: Yeah, I know. But
your wife lives in a different
1:51:11
state so yeah, you don't care
1:51:13
John C Dvorak: even so I'm just
saying I'm just saying there's
1:51:15
no right don't need a phone with
me 24/7 Is not I'm not a surgeon
1:51:20
on call.
1:51:20
Adam Curry: Do you not have a
little black book for your for
1:51:22
your babes? No, okay. Did you
use to at one point did you have
1:51:30
a little black book? Tell us
1:51:31
John C Dvorak: a little I would
be a red book.
1:51:35
Adam Curry: And this is why he's
the Buzzkill. Ladies and
1:51:37
gentlemen. And with that I'd
like to thank you for your
1:51:40
currency in the morning to you
the man who put the sea in the
1:51:43
great clickbait ladies and
gentlemen say hello to my friend
1:51:45
on the other end who never takes
the phone anywhere Mr. Jones
1:51:51
John C Dvorak: morning to you
Mr. Adam curry and we're gonna
1:51:53
succeed boots on the ground.
Feet near subs in the water. And
1:51:56
all the names and nights out
1:51:58
Adam Curry: in the morning to
the trolls and the Troll. Troll
1:52:00
room who do have Now we're
talking 2884 and even two hours
1:52:09
into the show that's not too bad
for a troll room count. Hello
1:52:12
trolls. The trolls hang out in
the troll room for one reason
1:52:15
one reason only to be counted
and then to leave when the best
1:52:18
stuff comes. That's the donation
segments where we'd had the
1:52:21
interviews we get clips of the
day. We also thank people we
1:52:25
talk about people maybe probably
talking about you when you leave
1:52:28
your trolls may say that means
how many how many left right
1:52:31
away? Oh, only Oh, interesting.
Threatening only only 10 left.
1:52:39
Afraid. Oh yeah, so you get bad
karma. And that's where I forgot
1:52:42
to mention that part. The trolls
are in the troll room, you can
1:52:46
participate in their joyous
antics by going to troll room.io
1:52:51
where you can listen to the
stream live, you can log into
1:52:54
the chat room. You have to
register if you want to if you
1:52:57
want to troll but that's pretty
simple. But then you know the
1:53:01
real recommendation if you don't
have a light phone, if you have
1:53:05
like a grownup phone is go to
podcast apps.com Get and man
1:53:09
there's more apps comm and get
an app that does the live stream
1:53:15
pod verse curio caster, podcast
addict podcast group and a big
1:53:20
one coming on board pretty soon
that'll do this live stuff where
1:53:23
you can import all your existing
podcasts into it and then when
1:53:27
we go live or any podcast goes
live you get the bad signal to
1:53:30
remind you oh yeah, the boys are
live. You tap on it. Boom you
1:53:35
get the live stream and you get
your your troll room and
1:53:37
everything all in one go was
perfect thing. Well, if you're
1:53:40
just on your computer at the
office, you can check in on no
1:53:43
agenda social.com and follow me
Adam at nogen the social.com
1:53:47
Jhansi Dvorak at no agenda
social.com And you know that's
1:53:53
our social network without algos
people seem to like it you can
1:53:56
follow from anywhere on on the
Fetty verse. If your Mastodon
1:54:01
instance has not blocked us I
think you can pretty much always
1:54:03
subscribe to so you may not get
stuff in your in your Fetty feed
1:54:07
but who cares you just want to
follow us where your guides and
1:54:10
all of this
1:54:12
John C Dvorak: Yeah, we're
freeze peach.
1:54:14
Adam Curry: Yes freeze peach
indeed.
1:54:18
John C Dvorak: It's a device
that you mentioned it I do have
1:54:20
a clip I want to drop in Oh,
you're talking about podcasts
1:54:24
podcasts apps podcast is by
another what's wrong with these
1:54:28
podcasters Whoa. Okay your buddy
here this is a house ad on a I
1:54:35
Heart Radio produce podcast. And
the next thing you know there's
1:54:39
a plug for I Heart Radio. That
is a that is kind of a house had
1:54:45
a you know I don't know why at
the beginning somebody's
1:54:47
podcasts. I was listening to
somebody. Some of these podcasts
1:54:50
don't get started for five or
six minutes. What is it? What
1:54:53
are they started with ads? Yeah,
they do the latest thing in
1:54:57
these these bad No no in these
networks is to run two or three
1:55:02
or four ads before the podcast.
And then the guys introduction
1:55:06
takes forever. Your six minutes
in don't you just fast forward
1:55:10
like everybody else. Now I want
to hear these ads. Especially
1:55:13
this one from your old buddy, my
old buddy who? Bob Pitman's.
1:55:19
Adam Curry: Yeah, Bob pit knows
Never mind. He was on his way
1:55:22
out. In fact, I met Bob Pittman
once the weekend I got to New
1:55:27
York. And, and I got a call.
Yeah, Bob Pittman, who was the
1:55:31
president of MTV Networks. Just
before he left and Tom Freston
1:55:35
came in. Yeah, Bob wants to
invite you to go to John Cougar
1:55:38
Mellencamp. So we went in
Pitman's limo to see John Cougar
1:55:43
Mellencamp um, that was the only
encounter I had with Bob Pittman
1:55:47
John C Dvorak: was in a limo.
But remember those Pinkie
1:55:50
Adam Curry: remember the stretch
limos? Yeah. I'm Bob Pittman,
1:55:54
Chairman and CEO of iHeartMedia.
Looking for a master's guide to
1:55:57
the marketing world. from
decades of experience starting
1:56:00
with building MTV, I found it
comes down to two things, math
1:56:04
and magic. You'll hear unlikely
visionaries from the frontiers
1:56:08
of marketing share how they use
data, the math and creativity,
1:56:12
the magic to launch their
biggest, most impossible
1:56:16
sounding ideas. Listen to the
new season of math and magic
1:56:19
stories from the frontiers of
marketing on our very own
1:56:22
iHeartRadio app, Apple podcast,
or wherever you get your podcast
1:56:26
by Bob Pittman. I should be on
his show. I'm a math and magic
1:56:31
guy. Did I launch a grand idea?
1:56:35
John C Dvorak: Yeah, sure. Gonna
show i Sounds boring to me. But
1:56:42
you there's nothing worse than a
marketing guy.
1:56:45
Adam Curry: Hey, he created MTV.
1:56:48
John C Dvorak: You heard here he
said.
1:56:50
Adam Curry: Well, well, he has
six minutes of ads and opening.
1:56:55
We don't do that we get right to
the show with our with our witty
1:56:58
banter. But you know, we have a
little opening and we're right
1:57:01
into your shed with drop you're
right in, which is quite jarring
1:57:04
for most people. And we don't
have ads. We don't want we don't
1:57:07
want to have Bob Pittman
advertised that would be
1:57:09
horrible. If you had to listen
to Bob. I mean, ball respect
1:57:11
wasn't a bob Pitman before we
started or whatever, whatever
1:57:16
how sad it would be. Why are
they running house ads? Are they
1:57:19
not making any money over there?
Hello. Hello, I heard radio.
1:57:25
Should you be out of business?
No, we run value for value. That
1:57:31
means time, talent, treasure,
whatever you want to give back
1:57:34
to us for the impeccable and
voluminous value we provide. We
1:57:38
gladly accept it. We do need the
treasure part. Little short
1:57:42
today. I'll be honest about it.
But before we do that, let's go
1:57:45
to our art credit. And thank the
artists for episode 1552 aptly
1:57:52
titled old trout. I don't think
we have to explain to everybody
1:57:56
why we titled it that. And would
you believe it? It's comic strip
1:58:01
blogger came in with a winning
art piece. And and check this
1:58:05
out. It wasn't even AI.
1:58:10
John C Dvorak: Is that what he
said?
1:58:13
Adam Curry: That's what he said.
He said he was he was surprised
1:58:17
that this one he was just
messing around with some ideas.
1:58:21
He took no AI critic but we when
we saw this art and let's this
1:58:26
is a a che an angry salt shaker.
Very cute piece. We both looked
1:58:33
at this and went. That's AI
that's against our rules and
1:58:39
regs. Well, I suppose
1:58:40
John C Dvorak: it's your rule,
not mine.
1:58:43
Adam Curry: True. And we said
no. We can't do that. And then
1:58:48
you said Come on. Let's do it.
Come on. Let's do it. You
1:58:50
John C Dvorak: were like I said,
Come on. Let's do I said we
1:58:52
violate our own rule over time.
1:58:56
Adam Curry: And we also thought
it would be fun for commerce or
1:58:58
Blogger to be able to drag on a
very good piece. But we thought
1:59:02
it would be fun for him to say I
got your AI and know that
1:59:06
John C Dvorak: the irony is not
AI. That's funny.
1:59:11
Adam Curry: Let's see now there
were a lot of submissions for
1:59:12
which we're always very
appreciative. You can follow
1:59:15
along at no agenda art
generator.com or get one of
1:59:18
those handy dandy new podcast
apps at podcast apps.com
1:59:21
John C Dvorak: A bunch of funny
old trout gags including the one
1:59:25
of the the old trout walking by
Josh but can hold or whatever
1:59:31
his name I can't pronounce his
last name kono. He did go on.
1:59:34
Oh, yeah. With a walker. It was.
1:59:39
Adam Curry: It was a little it
was okay. I've been you thought
1:59:43
I liked a lot. You liked it. I
liked the one where Camilla's
1:59:46
face was literally a trout face.
1:59:49
John C Dvorak: I thought that
was gross. Yeah, I
1:59:51
Adam Curry: know. I know. You
did a lot of trial. A lot of
1:59:53
trout jokes. And there were a
lot of shaker jokes too. A lot
1:59:57
of shaker jokes, but jokes are
work I should say. We both
2:00:03
looked at the no agenda
Gardner's bomb. That was a nice
2:00:07
piece by Nico sign but it was a
little small Nico, little small
2:00:12
the curry Dvorak was too small.
That's the main problem our name
2:00:14
has to be pretty big. This and
that and then you you
2:00:17
particularly like the writer
strike again, which was done in
2:00:21
the theme of Star Wars.
2:00:22
John C Dvorak: Yes, the Empire
Strikes Back it was
2:00:25
Adam Curry: all off for me. I
mean, the logo was great.
2:00:27
John C Dvorak: Well you hate
Star Wars Star Trek, all that
2:00:30
stuff. I
2:00:30
Adam Curry: don't hate out. I
gotta tell you something. So but
2:00:33
does not Star Wars but my buddy
Dave over at podcast index.org
2:00:38
He's a big Trekkie fan. And so
he goes to the Star Trek
2:00:42
convention as it came to
Birmingham, Alabama, and he had
2:00:45
signed up for for a selfie with
William Shatner. And, and some
2:00:51
of the crew members from I don't
know which Deep Space Nine I
2:00:55
don't know which one. It is
because he's really excited to
2:00:58
be here. And he was some of the
hobbies gotta get a selfie was
2:00:59
Shatner, I think he had to pay
like 120 bucks for it or
2:01:02
something. So you know, really?
Yeah. You know what he got? So
2:01:07
So basically, there's a stage
2:01:09
John C Dvorak: got to stand next
to a shattered noni No, no, no.
2:01:13
Adam Curry: Shatner sitting in
like on a box or a chair on
2:01:16
stage. And then there's Dave, on
the other side of a clear
2:01:21
plexiglass divider.
2:01:25
John C Dvorak: Why want to see
that picture.
2:01:28
Unknown: It's really sad.
2:01:31
Adam Curry: 20 bucks and
shattered just sitting there.
2:01:35
And the Plexiglas dividers open.
You have none of the sort of the
2:01:38
Trekkies get any cooties on him.
That as I've like, I've lost
2:01:44
respect for Shatner now. That's
just a money grab me with you.
2:01:49
You want to take a picture of
the pod father free, make a
2:01:51
slobber all over me. I'm no
douche. We go to your Meetup.
2:01:57
John C Dvorak: It's pretty bad.
2:01:58
Adam Curry: It's very bad. It's
just very disappointing. So we
2:02:03
looked at that
2:02:05
John C Dvorak: moment to see
that picture.
2:02:06
Adam Curry: I'll send it to you.
It's pretty messed up. What else
2:02:13
do we have? Now? The too many of
the egg. I thought the egg was
2:02:17
cool. You didn't like the egg?
2:02:18
John C Dvorak: No, I did like
the egg. But I didn't think it
2:02:20
was going to was show worthy.
It's just cute is cute, a cute
2:02:25
egg
2:02:26
Adam Curry: with kind of my
teeth. So my teeth look like now
2:02:28
John C Dvorak: it looks to me
like Brian Stelter to me. While
2:02:32
Adam Curry: you didn't mention
that, when we were looking at
2:02:34
it,
2:02:34
John C Dvorak: they'll nod and
see it again.
2:02:37
Adam Curry: Yeah, so I think
that was that was it. We really
2:02:40
appreciate the work that all the
artists do over at no agenda,
2:02:43
art generator.com They're doing
this live where they listen to
2:02:45
us live. And so really
phenomenal. How well they can do
2:02:49
that. of all of them. It's very
appreciated. And you can meet
2:02:53
all of the artists at no agenda
social.com They hang out there
2:02:55
to discuss it. They congratulate
themselves and each other. And
2:02:59
yeah, and
2:02:59
John C Dvorak: then they just
then they excoriated two of us
2:03:02
for not being done not liking
the right art. Yeah, the
2:03:05
Adam Curry: wrong you did it all
wrong, you horrible people. No
2:03:09
agenda art generator.com. And of
course, we want to thank the
2:03:12
people who bring us the
treasure, our executive and
2:03:14
Associate Executive producers
for episode 1553. And we kick it
2:03:20
off with Mark capenhurst. I
would say St. Petersburg,
2:03:25
Florida with a whopping very
nice did save the day, I would
2:03:30
say $1,033. That's an instant
donation then says in the
2:03:36
morning, Adam and John, I'd like
to thank you both for the
2:03:38
amygdala assist over the last
three years. Your deconstruction
2:03:41
helped me stand firm against my
previous company's mandates with
2:03:45
clear and concise reasoning.
Congratulations, man. That's a
2:03:49
tough one to do. It's not it was
not easy for a lot of people.
2:03:52
Not everybody could do that.
Please help me Sir Mark see of
2:03:56
the beach swamp? Can I get a
mangoes and ribeye at the round
2:04:00
table? I think we can do that
for you. No problem. And then he
2:04:03
says can I get a you're gonna
need a Bitcoin and a yak karma
2:04:07
for everybody and see y'all on
noster also, for anyone who was
2:04:11
realized our healthcare system
has failed, and you're
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interested in a sovereign
alternative that actually cares
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about you, please check out join
crowd health.com Tina actually
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uses that. What is it? It's it's
a collective so you pay I think
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it's like $250 a month. And, and
that goes into a general fund.
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And then when you need to get
some help to help or some
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anything over $500 you contact
them. The first thing they do is
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they negotiate with your doctor,
as we know, doctors, hospitals
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that all take 30 cents on the
dollar because that gives them
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the same amount of money they
get from the insurance companies
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without all the paperwork and
hassle. And then that payment
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comes out of the out of the pool
and they If it's extraordinarily
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expensive, they may ask you for
an additional 50 bucks to help
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that tell the story to help
somebody out. And with that, you
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get some kind of reputation
points. And of course, when it's
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your turn, if you have something
big happen, then people will
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help you. It's a very popular
format, they have it. There's
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many different companies that
are doing this now.
2:05:22
John C Dvorak: Isn't this what
health insurance used to be?
2:05:25
Adam Curry: Kind of? Yeah, I
mean, except for the Wii, she
2:05:28
has not been asked to pay
anything. I think actually, you
2:05:32
the money stays in your account.
I think it stays in your name.
2:05:35
And these guys actually put some
of it into Bitcoin, which I
2:05:37
think is it was interesting. So
part of your money grows as you
2:05:43
grow. At least that's the
concept. This idea of Christian
2:05:48
health ministries they do this
and you know, you can only get
2:05:52
invited through your pastor or
something like that. But yeah,
2:05:55
now this it, people are walking
away from from the week we had
2:05:59
to, we were like 2500 bucks a
month for the two of us, you
2:06:02
know, because we're older. And
we're not old enough to get all
2:06:06
the government goodies. You
signed word? Yeah, you sound you
2:06:13
sound flummoxed and
flabbergasted. That all hell is
2:06:18
gonna break loose and you're
gonna need a Bitcoin
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Unknown: you've got karma
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John C Dvorak: Baronet 1% of the
GTF Oh, in Dixie Washington
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34567. He like it says your cash
Manning money shot long version
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and goat karma IgM. This latest
1% contribution of my treasure
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in the amount of 34567 has no
special numerological meaning is
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just for the hell of it. In
addition to slowly working my
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way up to the ranks of the
roundtable and every 1% ways
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have recently secured me
citizenship in the nascent
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nascent county known as liberal
land as a diehard freedom lover.
2:07:05
It's something I deceased in
Washington, okay. The home of
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Inslee it's something I decided
to take a flyer which is the
2:07:16
reason he's governors because
they know how to rig elections
2:07:18
up there with all mail in voting
24/7 and 1% risk is not bad
2:07:22
anyway, it goes on. I think it's
like contributing I think it's a
2:07:27
lot like contributing and no
agenda the immediate cost need
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not be great, but over time it
can add up to something
2:07:32
significant potential upside for
information entertainment and
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make village shrinkage one
contributions enable can be
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invaluable. Thanks again for all
you do to and provide faithfully
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suppressing your exit strategy
1% of the time. Baronet 1% of
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the GTFO aka Paul Zimmerman.
2:07:51
Unknown: I know a lot of people
want to send blankets or water
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just send
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John C Dvorak: your cash Yes, I
showed up money shop. Jesus.
2:08:00
That's a money shot kid. Money
shot
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Unknown: you've got karma.
2:08:09
Adam Curry: Love that number
34567 And our favorite 33333 We
2:08:13
received from Scott Lamont or
Lemond or Lamar Lamar, Lemond
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Somerset, Massachusetts, he says
1/3 downpayment on the helmet
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than the night helmet. The next
two thirds to cover the suit and
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sword to follow eventually.
Thank you Scott. We appreciate
2:08:30
that.
2:08:31
John C Dvorak: Bobby brindle
horse in Mount Laurel New
2:08:34
Jersey. Three Three ITM boys.
Thank you Mimi for explaining
2:08:39
the vinegar book premise. I've
been waiting remember when 10 or
2:08:42
so years ago, they would play
commercials about pharma causing
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boys to have breasts. WT C seven
won't go away. Bobby brindle
2:08:53
horse
2:08:58
Unknown: Jen
2:09:00
Adam Curry: Wimberly is a
general Wimberly. Do you think
2:09:03
GM normal sound looks like it
should be good to say Jen No,
2:09:07
Jen, Jen with a G 282 dot 28822
A two backwards and forwards.
2:09:15
Please accept this row of ducks
plus small boobs donation to two
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to 22 plus 60.06. In honor of my
smokin hot boyfriend, Kyle TOEIC
2:09:25
Oh, Kyle, who would never who
would never hit me in the mouth
2:09:29
but did give me a gentle pimp
slap. Happy birthday from Jen
2:09:33
also with a G and please do you
do Schmidt?
2:09:37
Unknown: You've been de deuced
2:09:41
John C Dvorak: Andrew Helenius
in iron River, Wisconsin. In the
2:09:46
morning and thank you for your
courage. I have been wronged. I
2:09:49
donated a row of ducks for 1518
and John commented the following
2:09:53
If committed the following
offenses Oh, one that was not
2:09:58
credited for my dough. nation
except in the show notes.
2:10:02
Adam Curry: I don't know how
that happened
2:10:05
John C Dvorak: we got Adam here
is monitoring every word I say
2:10:08
yeah just caught me. One of the
men mentioned in my note for
2:10:12
hitting me in the mouth aka Joe
flock of Joe aka flower town.
2:10:17
flavor. Flavor town was referred
to as flav written you almost
2:10:21
did it wrong again. Yeah, but if
I didn't read it in the first
2:10:25
place how could I do it wrong
twice? Good point.
2:10:28
Adam Curry: What is that all
about? Hey, just because that
2:10:31
was a scam
2:10:33
John C Dvorak: to me I wasn't
credited but yet I mispronounced
2:10:36
this guy's name. That doesn't
make sense. Well, maybe
2:10:38
Adam Curry: because you
mispronounce his name. He says
2:10:40
he wasn't credited this seems
like a little live
2:10:42
John C Dvorak: rendition of I've
got answer was subpar. Wow, what
2:10:47
a complainer we didn't do any
live rendition
2:10:50
Adam Curry: I don't think so
either.
2:10:52
John C Dvorak: Then Adam to get
switch topics. Oh, then Adam had
2:10:57
the audacity to misgendered me
oh no I referring to me as a
2:11:02
she. What part of Andy with a
why makes you think I'm a woman?
2:11:07
Adam Curry: Maybe it was your
tone
2:11:12
John C Dvorak: anywho I'm a
fellow follower in Christ. So I
2:11:16
will turn the other cheek and
forgive you. Oh, yeah. Thank
2:11:19
you. It's a very forgiving note.
Please accept this row of decks
2:11:25
are being your best podcast in
the universe. And please give
2:11:28
the second best podcast in the
universe our big dumb mouth or
2:11:31
OBD M A shout out. I have no
affiliation with them just feel
2:11:35
they need more listeners. They
deserve it. No jingles no karma.
2:11:39
And let's John wants to give it
another try. I didn't do it in
2:11:42
the first place. I got ants by
Andy helenus Salinas. Halle Lena
2:11:49
Linus
2:11:51
Adam Curry: Linus Helenius
Helene you as
2:11:54
John C Dvorak: li ne us Helenius
B where we iron river
2:12:01
Adam Curry: karma good karma
karma Andy with a ye
2:12:06
John C Dvorak: Andy with why
2:12:08
Adam Curry: royal docks to tu tu
tu tu tu from dude named Ben
2:12:11
dude named Ben here. Here again
with a yearly row of ducks
2:12:15
towards knighthood which
according to my bookkeeping is
2:12:17
finally here, though I did use
double credits on show 1500 and
2:12:21
hit the knighthood mark then it
got lost in the mess I don't
2:12:23
blame you guys. I figured a real
credit was worth waiting for
2:12:27
please Knight me. Oh, this is
not this is not in the in Oh,
2:12:31
interesting. This is
interesting. How'd this happen?
2:12:35
This rare mistake from our new
back office please Knight me
2:12:39
server of the Ohio and crest I
got to write all this down. Can
2:12:44
you read this note for a sec? I
gotta know after I write all
2:12:46
this
2:12:46
John C Dvorak: again. I'm nearly
Rolodex towards night who was
2:12:49
according to my book give me to
finally get by blah blah. I
2:12:52
don't blame you guys. I figured
a real credit was worth waiting
2:12:55
for please snipe me as server of
the Ohio, Ohio and crest and I'd
2:13:01
love some goulash and sliver of
slivovitz was I think is that
2:13:06
fish isn't it? Sounds goulash
doesn't sound good. Now, at the
2:13:11
roundtable I'm wrapping up my
penultimate semester in college
2:13:15
and the show has been working
overtime to keep me sane and
2:13:18
informed Nice. Despite the
forces of woke ism at hand I
2:13:23
even hit a couple of people in
the mouth here. And that's
2:13:26
saying something on campus keep
up the fantastic work lads. I
2:13:30
look forward to the roundtable
and all his family onwards to
2:13:33
barony is no jingles but looking
for some graduation karma.
2:13:39
Adam Curry: You got that for
you.
2:13:40
Unknown: Thank you. You've got
karma and
2:13:42
Adam Curry: we've got the
roundtable lined up for you got
2:13:45
that sneaky fish you want it?
2:13:47
John C Dvorak: I've got the note
from anonymous that came in all
2:13:50
right, rocket. So anonymous
comes in from Parts Unknown.
2:13:55
$222 And he writes by my
glasses, Adam and John. I have
2:14:03
been listening since hearing
Adam on Megyn Kelly show
2:14:10
Adam Curry: oh there it is the
Megan Kelly dono a donor
2:14:13
John C Dvorak: here we go back
in 2021. That's right. This is
2:14:17
truly the best podcast not
Megan's but ours. And I
2:14:21
apologize for taking so long to
donate. Keep up the good work
2:14:25
anonymous.
2:14:26
Adam Curry: Well, I'm about to
reappear. Although, put it in
2:14:31
your calendar, May 31. Someone's
getting fired. Whenever I'm
2:14:37
booked on the Kelly she Megyn
Kelly show. It was fired last
2:14:42
time while Sharon Osbourne she
got fired when I was booked and
2:14:46
they bumped me for four hours to
have me on. And then it was
2:14:50
Tucker. Who by the way,
Kellyanne? What's her name? Not
2:14:54
Kellyanne Conway. No, no way.
No, no. Who's the who's the
2:14:58
you'd like her? The No, not
Kellyanne Conway.
2:15:03
John C Dvorak: Yeah, I know the
other one. Kaylee. Kayleigh.
2:15:05
McEnaney Kaylee McEnany. And
then and she'll be
2:15:07
Adam Curry: she'll be in
Tucker's time slot this week.
2:15:10
Yeah, well, you knew that.
2:15:12
John C Dvorak: Yeah. Or you knew
that it was a big deal. I think
2:15:14
it's not going to work no of
course with anybody in that
2:15:17
spot. She's She's too nice to be
you know, he's you know, even
2:15:21
though he's got a big smile and
he's always all you always got
2:15:24
that look, look a lot and he's
he is a mean guy. I mean, he's
2:15:28
there's a meanness to him that
that needs to be on that show.
2:15:33
You can't be a lightweight I
mean, when Oh, Riley had to show
2:15:36
is a mean prick. So this guy is
you know, he's kind of a mean
2:15:41
guy to is funny mean, but she
doesn't have a bone of meanness
2:15:45
in her. She
2:15:46
Adam Curry: really doesn't. She
really doesn't. Yeah, but I
2:15:49
mean, isn't it just for a week?
I don't think it's I don't think
2:15:53
it's
2:15:53
John C Dvorak: uh, but he made
it sound like she's gonna take
2:15:55
the spot. I did I make it sound
like that. I didn't know they
2:15:59
didn't do the trades. Oh, okay.
2:16:02
Adam Curry: The trades. You go
$200 from James Lawler who's an
2:16:08
Oklahoma City, Oklahoma sir
Jimmy James here. And a whole
2:16:13
bunch of hashtags. shows have
been amazing as of late the best
2:16:19
podcast in the universe. Oh, and
our next UI who we meet up as a
2:16:22
Saturday and I hear Adam may
make it J K. God bless. Thank
2:16:27
you for your courage. JK indeed.
No, I'm going to the goat I'm
2:16:31
going to finally go to the
Austin meetup again. In docs
2:16:35
backyard on Saturday rare
parents rare appearance
2:16:37
everybody join us there Doc's
back.
2:16:40
John C Dvorak: If you're going
to give any donations to the
2:16:42
show, put them in an envelope
with
2:16:43
Adam Curry: a note with yes with
a note with a note with a note
2:16:46
please. And the final Associate
Executive Producer to under
2:16:49
dollars is Roderick prince from
Scottsdale Arizona, no notes so
2:16:53
he gets a coveted double up
donation karma. Karma. I'll
2:16:59
prepare the roundtable John will
take us through the 50s
2:17:03
John C Dvorak: and on we go with
Paul Lawrence and Dayton, Texas.
2:17:06
160 16 as some sort of boom man
thing, not sure what it means
2:17:12
anonymous 9608 And then right
away. I'm sorry, I jumped ahead.
2:17:21
Bruce Schwalm of the sron the
farm in Harrisburg,
2:17:25
Pennsylvania, when 3388 and then
Diane tshwane back in John's
2:17:33
Burg Illinois $150 And she's got
a birthday caught to her to
2:17:38
David. Brian to Lekki in
Lincoln, Nebraska 111 11 Victor
2:17:45
Vandenberg and hares John Dom,
which is here's Jan's dam, here,
2:17:53
you're here. Yawns
2:17:54
Adam Curry: dumb.
2:17:55
John C Dvorak: Here, Young's
dumb in Holland. Yes. $100.
2:18:01
Anthony Caruso in Orlando,
Florida is $100 He needs a D
2:18:04
douching.
2:18:07
Unknown: You've been D deuced.
2:18:11
John C Dvorak: Kerry Jackson
Watertown, Tennessee 100.
2:18:14
Sebastian corage Mon koi mom.
Boy mon Sebastian koi mon in
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Amsterdam. 9608. Sir Kevin
McLaughlin in Lucas, North
2:18:31
Carolina 808. He's continuing to
trend along without glue gun
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suelen in Missouri City, Texas
808 Alexis row bliss Robles
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Robles, Robles Robles in Chula
Vista, California. 77777. And
2:18:54
she needs a de douching. You've
been de deuced and her brother,
2:19:02
you Julio or Julio Julio? Call
it needs a call out as a
2:19:08
douchebag.
2:19:11
Adam Curry: Close call.
2:19:12
John C Dvorak: Daniel Rodriguez
in Doral, Florida 7175. Michael
2:19:20
de la rosiere in Maryville tech
Tennessee 5555 with a birdie
2:19:28
call out. William Alston if at
523 Andrew K Hill in Batavia,
2:19:36
Ohio, 55 One d3. Now these are
all the fabulous 85 two this is
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our this is the fabulous cinco
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Adam Curry: Andrew needs to do
Do
2:19:49
Unknown: you been D deuced?
2:19:51
John C Dvorak: Cat Morton in
Charlotte, North Carolina 5523
2:19:56
Rita Harrington 5520 Sir, hold
on a second. Oh, Divide 23 Colin
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petitive 523 This these came my
way I got six of them. That's
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not to Bandy Meyer and Merritt.
Washington is a killer 3523
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Dwayne Shalit in parts of no
5523 Okay, that's the end of
2:20:20
them. Matthew Davenport in Hyde,
Cheshire, UK 55 George Sousa in
2:20:26
Hill mark, California. Please if
it is 333 Please call out David
2:20:33
and Jim as douchebags. Michael
gates 50 to 82 Jose Hosea are
2:20:42
Josiah Thomason, and Kenny Iowa
51. And the following people
2:20:47
finally are the $50 donors.
shortlist elects Alex Zavala and
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Cal Texas Villareal Villareal
Michael Lebar, in Williamston,
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Michigan, Philip, Kouzmanoff ski
in Austin, Texas, Ryan Tiernan
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in North Providence, Rhode
Island, Jonathan Ferris and
2:21:09
liberal Kansas Matthew Smith and
Colchester UK Robertson home
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Robertson home in Flint,
Michigan, Edward Mazurek in
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Memphis, Tennessee Jonathan
Meyer in Xenia, Ohio and last on
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the list into hatchapee.
California comes Justin Cruz,
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one of the thank these folks are
making show the defy 5351 553 a
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winner
2:21:35
Adam Curry: and thank you again
to our executive and Associate
2:21:37
Executive producers, who we read
at the top of this segment and
2:21:40
all you who came in under $50.
Either for anonymity we will not
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you're on one of the many, many
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Unknown: to vote.org/and A for
forget,
2:22:03
Adam Curry: I wanted to thank
Secret Agent Paul, we were
2:22:05
talking about the Clip of the
Day jingle. And that was indeed
2:22:10
Secret Agent Paul, who created
the Clip of the Day jingle and
2:22:14
the borderline Clip of the Day
jingle. And he said it was in
2:22:17
fact a him and not Madonna
seeing the borderline in the
2:22:21
borderline Clip of the Day. And
maybe I should mention, just
2:22:25
people request jingles. But I
want to just tell you some of
2:22:28
the jingles the guy's done. F
cancer pet peeve of the day.
2:22:35
Open up Mr. Dvorak words do
matter Putin on the rich the
2:22:39
magical shave ship shapeshifting
Jews and one of my favorites
2:22:43
this one
2:22:51
I mean, that guy's got chops. I
mean that's
2:22:57
John C Dvorak: and then yeah,
but yeah, we need more stuff
2:22:59
from him.
2:23:00
Adam Curry: And I don't and I
thought that he had done this
2:23:02
next one which I will pull out
of the closet because we talked
2:23:05
about her but he did not I don't
know who does this one
2:23:17
John C Dvorak: such a good one.
What is that, Kaylee? Yeah, yes,
2:23:25
the Kaylee jingle? Yeah, it's
the Kaylee jingle goes on
2:23:28
forever. She's got to show now
so
2:23:31
Adam Curry: they can use this as
the opening as the show tomb?
2:23:34
Yeah, just a thought. Thank you
all very much this morning
2:23:37
episode number 1553. Have no
agenda. Our formula
2:23:40
Unknown: is this. We go out. We
hit people in the mouth.
2:24:04
Adam Curry: We do have a list
sir. Dancing. Mike turns 55 On
2:24:08
Monday we congratulate him in
advance. General Wimberly, which
2:24:13
is her smokin hot boyfriend.
Kyle Twohig. Happy birthday. And
2:24:20
Diane Swanton Beck wishes David
Swan, Jr. Happy birthday we say
2:24:24
happy birthday to everybody here
from the back office and the
2:24:28
tube producers and CO hosts of
the best podcast in the
2:24:31
universe. And as we just found
out we have to Oh, May 10 Am I
2:24:38
mistaken? Doesn't matter. We
have not one but we have two
2:24:41
nights to bring into the
roundtable.
2:24:44
John C Dvorak: Good. I got two
Knight's sword.
2:24:46
Unknown: Nice. Perfect.
2:24:49
Adam Curry: Up on the podium
plays can we have while you're
2:24:54
really loud? Mark capenhurst and
dude named Ben both of us for
2:24:58
the no agenda podcast. You might
have one $1,000 or more in fact,
2:25:01
marca you came in with an
internet donation therefore I'm
2:25:05
very proud to pronounce Casey as
Sir Mark C of the beach swamp
2:25:10
and server of the Ohio and crest
for you. We've got hookers and
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blow rent boys and Chardonnay
but also by request mangoes and
2:25:17
ribeye and goulash and slim
omits the yummy. Along with that
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national man Rosae Geisha suck
into vodka and vanilla bong hits
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and bourbon sparkling cider and
escorts breast milk and pablum.
2:25:28
And of course, we've got the
mutton in me there for you
2:25:32
gentlemen go over to no agenda
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look at the handsome rings on
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that along with your address a
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seal your important
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of authenticity and thank you
again for becoming knights of
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the no agenda roundtable.
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Like a party here's what's going
on. We have the build Snohomish
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back better meetup, which kicks
off in a couple hours three
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And on Thursday our next show
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next week. We've got St. Louis,
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Oklahoma and then of course,
Austin, Sunset Valley, Texas on
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Saturday, Arnold Annapolis area.
Boston, Massachusetts Lewisburg,
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Pennsylvania, Bronx, New York,
Houston, Texas. The list is
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endless all over the world.
You've got to go to one of
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these, which is the one you're
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Austin Sunset Valley Saturday,
Saturday, Saturday, Saturday,
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Saturday, Saturday. 1000 funny
cars meet the pod father. Why?
2:26:56
John C Dvorak: I thought it was
to tomorrow or some Friday. I
2:26:59
don't know which no. Okay. Is
the day before Mother's Day
2:27:04
then?
2:27:04
Adam Curry: Yes, it is. In fact,
the Mother's Day meet up. That's
2:27:06
correct. Okay. Yeah. Wait, hey,
do you think people will do a
2:27:11
Mother's Day donation this year
for the show?
2:27:16
John C Dvorak: This is a good
question. I mean,
2:27:18
Adam Curry: during COVID People
love their moms but then yeah,
2:27:20
now they hate their mom and mom
is very odd the hell's going on
2:27:25
and think about how we now have
about a 5050 split between men
2:27:28
and women listening to this
podcast. And I would have to say
2:27:32
a lot of them are moms This is a
great way moms love it. Moms
2:27:35
love being paid attention to by
the dynamic duo known as
2:27:38
crackpot and Buzzkill. So get
your donation in for mom. Just
2:27:41
trying to just trying to get
everybody all excited about it.
2:27:45
No agenda meetups.com is where
you can find all the meetups
2:27:48
find one near you if you can.
Why don't you start one
2:27:50
yourself? It's easy no agenda
meetup.com Guaranteed apart a
2:27:58
nice day you Unity will be
triggered everybody feels like I
2:28:17
have three ISOs Oh, you have
three ISOs to I see.
2:28:21
John C Dvorak: It's balanced,
balanced.
2:28:23
Adam Curry: Balanced. Shall I
play mine first then? Yeah,
2:28:25
please.
2:28:25
John C Dvorak: II
2:28:29
Adam Curry: that's one. I find
it interesting, man. Kinda like
2:28:33
the whoopee.
2:28:34
Unknown: I think they're pretty
darn good. You go.
2:28:41
John C Dvorak: Okay, well, let's
go with I've gotten three. Let's
2:28:44
start with rats.
2:28:45
Adam Curry: Okay, I hate rats.
Okay.
2:28:51
John C Dvorak: Oh, tell you
gotta do better.
2:28:53
Adam Curry: Do better. Are we
saving the best for last? No
2:28:55
doubt. Here we go. And we need
to do better.
2:28:59
John C Dvorak: Is the show is
lousy. We could play that. Yeah.
2:29:01
When it wasn't last. And then of
course, there's this one, which
2:29:04
is famous the world over now.
2:29:06
Unknown: Remember, Please mind
the gap? Yeah.
2:29:09
Adam Curry: I think I think
we're good to go. I just saw the
2:29:11
title. Mike. If it's if the
quality is good, it's a winner,
2:29:15
definite winner.
2:29:16
John C Dvorak: And by the way,
it wasn't easy to find the good
2:29:18
quality version. Right? Because
people were just recording it in
2:29:22
the subway stations is that was
Prince Charles. Didn't get a
2:29:27
clue about that. Very
2:29:28
Adam Curry: good one. We didn't
talk about on the last show. I
2:29:30
do want to mention it. That now
all of a sudden, apparently may
2:29:35
11. They end the vaccine
requirements for and I've read
2:29:39
this and I'd say it's now
2:29:40
John C Dvorak: are we taking
bets on whether they extend it?
2:29:43
Adam Curry: No, they won't.
Because while everyone's all
2:29:45
jacked and Judy myself included
because now I can fly my my
2:29:49
daughter and her fiance over
since he neither of them are
2:29:54
vaccinated.
2:29:56
John C Dvorak: Yeah, but she
doesn't he she is an American
2:29:57
citizen. Correct? Correct. But
2:29:59
Adam Curry: she went Want to
bring him or her Merman?
2:30:02
John C Dvorak: She could have
ditched him?
2:30:06
Adam Curry: We don't we're not
going to take relationship
2:30:08
advice from you. Okay. But
unfortunately, what this really
2:30:14
is all about is title 42 being
dropped. And that means we will
2:30:17
have an influx of 10, at minimum
10,000 migrants coming across
2:30:23
the border flooding our border
towns, mainly of Texas. It's
2:30:27
going to be an absolute mess,
it's going to be
2:30:30
John C Dvorak: that that's just
a supposition. No,
2:30:33
Adam Curry: it's going to
happen. They're already lining
2:30:36
up there ready, May 11. And then
boom, they're in because title
2:30:39
LeBrons, what the title 42 was
used with COVID as a as a, as a
2:30:48
kind of a, what do you call it?
It's a word.
2:30:50
John C Dvorak: I'm looking for
utterances the word you're
2:30:52
looking for.
2:30:53
Adam Curry: Maybe I'm using
deterrence to turn people away.
2:30:57
Well, you don't have your
vaccination to get out of here.
2:30:59
But now that's going away. So
the Biden administration, I'm
2:31:02
sure they wanted to still leave
the the air restriction in place
2:31:07
for international travelers, but
they couldn't quite sell that
2:31:09
and you know that Jabr over it
combat guy can come in and play
2:31:13
the US Open, whatever his name
is Bozo, bozo. Jevic. Yeah, but
2:31:18
it's it's sad. It's not this is
just problematic. But I do have
2:31:24
a clip kind of explains. And
this is another C span clip.
2:31:28
This is an entrepreneur, a
business owner, who's now these
2:31:32
are h2 A immigrants, which is a
h2 as temporary, you can get a
2:31:38
temporary seasonal visa, which I
think many are taking advantage
2:31:44
of to come in. The reason why
he's hiring these employers as
2:31:50
employees is perhaps interesting
to some maybe surprising
2:31:54
Unknown: that, John really
quickly, why are you having to
2:31:57
use these workers? Why can't you
use American born workers to do
2:32:03
the same work?
2:32:05
I, I would get nothing more than
to let that happen. We have to
2:32:10
advertise these jobs. Before we
can submit our petition, we have
2:32:17
to advertise these jobs here.
And no one calls high school
2:32:22
kids will not do these jobs.
2:32:24
How much are you paying for
those jobs? John, what's the
2:32:28
what's the going rate right now?
2:32:30
1515 to $17 an hour, but I would
much rather pay a guy down the
2:32:36
street to come to work for me
every day for $20 an hour,
2:32:42
instead of paying the HTA people
to come from Mexico for $20 now,
2:32:46
but I do those people that do
come from Mexico are extremely
2:32:52
hard workers. And most of the
time, they're extremely good
2:32:55
people.
2:32:56
Adam Curry: Yeah, this is a
mystery to me. And I was talking
2:32:59
to Cole from KFC cattle. Because
what we're trying to do here is
2:33:04
because we instead of paying for
shipping on beef that we order
2:33:07
from KFC cattle to come from
Luling, which is on the east
2:33:11
side of Austin. We do one order
with like, you know, eight 910
2:33:15
families that come out with a
van they delivered to our house.
2:33:19
You know, we collect all the
checks and everything. And you
2:33:21
know, it's kind of like a
community thing. And when comes
2:33:23
by to get their beef and
everyone orders a lot more.
2:33:26
Everybody wins, basically. And
so they were really hustling
2:33:30
around and they were going to be
a little bit late on delivery
2:33:33
day. And Cole calls me he says,
I'm sorry, man, we'll just go
2:33:36
nuts. Two weeks ago, I hired 10
people. Today only two of them
2:33:41
showed up. They don't even call
and they just they just don't
2:33:46
feel like working anymore.
They're done with the job. And
2:33:48
they just don't even come back
in. What what are these people
2:33:52
living off of? Is their
government money? I'm not aware
2:33:54
of.
2:33:55
John C Dvorak: There must be it
probably is. That's it? That's
2:33:58
nuts. You have to look into it.
Find out maybe there is maybe
2:34:03
this government money. He says
2:34:04
Adam Curry: we have there. He's
what they must be getting some
2:34:06
government money. I do not
understand it. is maddening.
2:34:13
Have no
2:34:13
John C Dvorak: transition
clipped or anything?
2:34:17
Adam Curry: Actually, I can
transition well, from the border
2:34:19
stuff. Just something I want to
mention, because there's almost
2:34:23
no discussion of it. But the
Supreme Court is, you know,
2:34:26
certainly Republicans on the
Supreme Court are continuously
2:34:29
under attack for all kinds of
Clarence Thomas would be the
2:34:33
number one. But there's a
decision that the Supreme Court
2:34:37
has decided to take on and it's
regarding the Chevron deference.
2:34:41
And I wanted to bring that up so
that people can keep their eye
2:34:44
on and if you find a clip or
find an article about it, are
2:34:46
you familiar with the Chevron
deference?
2:34:50
Unknown: No, no,
2:34:51
Adam Curry: this is Chevron
deference is a ruling that for
2:34:55
40 years, has basically has said
Uh, you know, any agency in the
2:35:03
United States can interpret law
as written by Congress kind of
2:35:08
the way they want to do it. And
this has to do with Chevron from
2:35:12
a long time ago. And that does
they call it the chevron
2:35:14
doctrine or the Chevron
deference. And the reason I put
2:35:17
it in the show notes if you want
to read up on that case from 40
2:35:20
years ago. Now, of course, the
whole reason we have this border
2:35:25
problem is because the Border
Patrol, CPB and, and Department
2:35:33
of Homeland Security, they are
by no, they are interpreting the
2:35:38
law, the way that's handy for
them, that works out for them
2:35:42
politically, or whatever they
whatever reason they have for
2:35:45
letting many people into the
country illegally and letting
2:35:48
them you know, the catch and
release all of that is because
2:35:51
they can interpret law the way
they want. If the Supreme Court
2:35:54
takes on this, this case, what
they're going to take it on, but
2:35:58
if they overrule the chevron
doctrine, that would mean that
2:36:04
whenever you can bring a lawsuit
against any agency to say, Hey,
2:36:08
you are not adhering to the law,
and then this, the federal
2:36:13
court, and it can go all the way
up, the Supreme Court will then
2:36:15
evaluate if there's any
ambiguity in the law, it will
2:36:20
either have to be redefined by
Congress or the agency will have
2:36:24
to actually adhere to the law.
And I think this harassment of
2:36:30
the Supreme Court may have
something to do with this, it's
2:36:32
really not discussed, no one
wants to talk about this,
2:36:35
because that could really change
things. Just think about how all
2:36:38
these agencies overstep their
boundaries everywhere.
2:36:44
John C Dvorak: So that's kind of
interesting. I wish we had some
2:36:46
discussion about it. With
2:36:48
Adam Curry: nothing, there's
nothing there's no clips,
2:36:51
there's no there's some
articles. You know, the hill has
2:36:56
an article on it. But that's
about the bright, and that's
2:37:01
about it. Here nearly four
decades of judicial experience
2:37:06
with Chevron have demonstrated
that courts are incapable of
2:37:09
applying its two step Chevron
framework and consistent manner.
2:37:13
So you know, the, in this case
is actually is being brought by
2:37:17
the Supreme Court is taking on
his herring fishing company, a
2:37:21
herring fishing company, Loper
bright enterprises, I think
2:37:25
they're in where I'm where
they're they there's a ruling
2:37:31
from the National Marine Fishery
Service regulation, that herring
2:37:37
fishing boats have to allow a
federal observer aboard every
2:37:42
ship to oversee operations and
compensate them for their time.
2:37:47
And then the company saying this
regulation significantly
2:37:51
decreases their profit. And so
that's the case that the Supreme
2:37:54
Court is taking on. So I yeah, I
think this I think it's a big
2:37:58
deal.
2:37:59
John C Dvorak: But we'll find
out soon enough. Yeah. Yeah,
2:38:03
I'll try to look into as he was
going on, I have some
2:38:06
miscellaneous clips. I think one
we should we talked about what
2:38:10
was it? Emotional learning and
how it improves everything. You
2:38:15
know, Mercer, you know?
2:38:18
Adam Curry: Sel, social,
emotional, emotional learning.
2:38:20
Yes. Yeah. It's
2:38:21
John C Dvorak: so important
because it makes people do
2:38:23
you're playing Nations report
card that says the results.
2:38:26
Unknown: Nations Report Card, so
called Nations Report Card is
2:38:30
out for civics and US history,
and it's not great. History
2:38:34
scores for eighth graders are
the lowest since this particular
2:38:37
testing started 99 Before the
new data also shows the first
2:38:41
ever drop in civics. This is
from the National Assessment of
2:38:45
Educational Progress, which is
run by the US Department of
2:38:48
Education.
2:38:50
John C Dvorak: surprised I was
just mentioned that you were
2:38:52
still falling apart thanks to
social and emotional emotional
2:38:55
or is not doing anything. No,
no. And I got this one, which is
2:38:59
kind of school related, which is
the teacher that's suing the
2:39:02
school in Texas, I think. No,
no, I'm sorry. Riverside County,
2:39:06
California, Texas. Teachers Sue
school over trans and not
2:39:12
telling parents you did. She
thought you should be able to
2:39:15
tell the parents that the kid
was being called Nancy.
2:39:18
Unknown: A former California
Teacher is suing her district
2:39:21
over claims
2:39:22
she was fired for refusing to
hide kids gender transitions
2:39:26
from their parents. Jessica
Tapia says she was discriminated
2:39:30
against for her Christian
beliefs and warns that what
2:39:33
happened to her can happen to
anybody. Jessica Tapia joins us
2:39:37
along with Vice President and
legal counsel for advocates for
2:39:41
Faith and Freedom. Mariah Gan
dear.
2:39:45
Thanks so much for joining the
program. Why did you decide to
2:39:52
tell to inform the parents? And
yeah, great
2:39:55
Adam Curry: question. Wow, and
the apprehension of why, I mean,
2:40:01
why would you why would you tell
the parents? Oh my god, we're
2:40:06
not gonna go through all of what
I've received. I did put a
2:40:08
number of parent notes. In the
show notes under trans Maoism
2:40:13
which we are still under attack
by in the United States is one
2:40:17
of the only one of the only
countries left. I did want to
2:40:20
share this one. And all these
are anonymous. Our first Bob our
2:40:27
homeschool daughter was
homeschooled during COVID, which
2:40:30
you mentioned John was convinced
she hated her body and was a boy
2:40:34
at 12 and 2020. Surprise
surprise. Our first signal was
2:40:38
her daughter 12 at the time
saying she wanted to be a boy
2:40:41
and use he him pronouns on a
Minecraft homeschool server she
2:40:45
had been on for several years.
And the and the Midwest faith
2:40:49
based principal giving me a
call. Thank you principle. My
2:40:54
wife and I spoke to my daughter
and she denied it was anything
2:40:56
special. We didn't dismiss it as
role playing, which happened
2:40:59
often on this server. But
several weeks later, I was
2:41:02
looking through the logs on our
personal Minecraft server. Good
2:41:06
on you parents for knowing what
you're doing. And found a king
2:41:10
Eric user logged in. I was
asking my son if he invited them
2:41:14
or do I need to implement a
whitelist My daughter went up
2:41:17
and said no, no, that's me. My
wife looked through her
2:41:20
electronics and found out she
was talking with a group of San
2:41:23
Diego kids on
scratch.mit.edu mit.edu a visual
2:41:30
programming site for kids. The
spun off from the Minecraft home
2:41:34
server, the homeschool server
and they were encouraged her not
2:41:37
to tell us and parents don't
understand. So we cut off her
2:41:41
electronics for summer told her
never talked to the group group
2:41:44
again. I told her I love her
either way, but it was too soon
2:41:47
for her to know who she would
fall in love with as she was
2:41:50
just starting puberty. Today.
She falls into tears when it
2:41:54
rarely comes up and says she
wanted to believe it. Since she
2:41:58
was getting so much attention
and support from that group. She
2:42:01
recently learned how to sew and
as making anime style dresses
2:42:04
for herself and getting phone
numbers from boys at home school
2:42:07
dances so I'm hopeful she will
find her true self. No agenda
2:42:11
show is nailing it per usual.
Thanks for your courage. And so
2:42:16
with all this so called anti
trans legislation, Rachel Maddow
2:42:21
is a shining example of exactly
what you should not be doing
2:42:27
when there's division over and I
want to make this clear. We
2:42:31
should use the word children and
not kids. Someone Someone made a
2:42:36
point about this. That kids is
you know, it's it kind of
2:42:41
diminishes what they are. It's
slang you know, Kid young goat,
2:42:46
you know young person. Children
call them children and, and I
2:42:50
also have you heard people call
their children Ketos
2:42:53
John C Dvorak: Yeah, a JC and
Jesse use this term.
2:42:56
Adam Curry: I do not like it all
the time.
2:42:58
John C Dvorak: I always call him
out on I said, kiddo.
2:43:01
Adam Curry: I don't like what's
kiddo. I don't like it. It's
2:43:05
like it's your child.
2:43:08
John C Dvorak: Very common. You
hear it? I see you see a lot of
2:43:10
videos to kiddos it's Milena Lea
bowler Millennials use it a lot.
2:43:17
Yeah, I got my kiddo here.
2:43:20
Adam Curry: I can't understand
what what is it that why does
2:43:22
that hit me deep in my soul that
I hate it when they do that.
2:43:25
What is that? I don't
2:43:26
John C Dvorak: know. I have no
idea which way is hears you it
2:43:28
just bugs me because I don't
like the sound of it. Yeah,
2:43:30
there you go. I
2:43:30
Adam Curry: don't like the sound
of it. Perfect. Just don't like
2:43:32
it. Sounds like a breakfast
cereal. kiddos. Hey, have you
2:43:35
kiddos here's Rachel Maddow ad
talking about people who want to
2:43:42
put legislation to place like
Florida that will inform
2:43:45
children if they if they learn
at school. Or at least they
2:43:50
should have the option but I
mean come on you should be held
2:43:53
informing parents if you're
going to be offering some kind
2:43:56
of sex change route with a
therapist and parents need to
2:44:00
know what what are you then
you're a Nazi?
2:44:03
Unknown: If you are not excited
five the little Nazis blooming
2:44:06
like stink weed everywhere these
days it might give you some
2:44:09
pause right if you realize that
the reason that these Nazis keep
2:44:13
turning out the reason these
Nazis are out there in the
2:44:16
streets and on the street
corners and in these public
2:44:17
parks. The reason they keep
doing this stuff is that they're
2:44:21
cheering on what you've been
doing in your day job that might
2:44:25
give you pause right if you
started to notice what all these
2:44:28
Nazis were doing and realize
that what they were doing was
2:44:30
pulling on your side.
2:44:33
John C Dvorak: So there's a
National Socialist Party in the
2:44:35
United States Nazi Party and
Nazis were a party. There was a
2:44:39
political party that was she
might be referring to are
2:44:43
fascists
2:44:44
Adam Curry: now she's talking
about moms for liberty. Oh,
2:44:47
they're
2:44:48
John C Dvorak: literally Nazis.
2:44:49
Adam Curry: Now. Moms for
liberty are moms who don't want
2:44:52
certain books and for in school.
2:44:56
John C Dvorak: That probably
could for good reason is my
2:44:58
guess.
2:44:58
Adam Curry: Yeah, well, then you
because you're now book burning
2:45:01
even though there's no books
being burned, therefore you are
2:45:04
a Nazi. You see, that's that's
how these people think, is the
2:45:09
this, by the way shows me that
Rachel Maddow has a mental
2:45:12
issue. This is Mental
2:45:15
Unknown: that might give you
pause right? If you started to
2:45:17
notice when all these Nazis were
doing and realize that what they
2:45:20
were doing was pulling for your
side. In Ohio, for example, it
2:45:25
might give you pause if you were
an Ohio Republican, and you've
2:45:29
been working on legislation to
attack queer people and trans
2:45:32
people, while at the same time
repeat what
2:45:34
Adam Curry: legislation attacks
queer people and what are queer
2:45:37
people, you've been
2:45:38
Unknown: working on legislation
to attack queer people and trans
2:45:41
people, while at the same time
repeatedly? You know, these guys
2:45:44
are the crowds who are turning
out to bolster that message to
2:45:47
make sure that the harassment
and intimidation of queer and
2:45:50
trans people has not just the
imprimatur of state law but also
2:45:53
a Nazi flare
2:45:55
Adam Curry: Nazi flare mentally
ill seriously mentally ill
2:46:05
John C Dvorak: do i On the topic
of mentally ill that's a segue
2:46:08
for me to play a couple of tick
tock clip
2:46:10
Adam Curry: Yeah, you're talking
everybody tock tock tick tock
2:46:17
tick tock. It is great way to
end at the end of the day.
2:46:20
John C Dvorak: Let's go with
this one. This is the bitch
2:46:22
clip.
2:46:24
Unknown: Hi, I just want to say
that I don't use they them
2:46:27
pronouns you use they them
pronouns for me. I also am not a
2:46:31
day and I'm not of them. And I'm
not a day them My pronouns are
2:46:35
they them? If you need a noun to
use for me, just call me a
2:46:38
bitch.
2:46:41
Adam Curry: Okay, that's not too
bad. I like that.
2:46:44
John C Dvorak: Good with that.
2:46:46
Adam Curry: No problem.
2:46:46
John C Dvorak: Deal. Yeah, the
other one was not about this
2:46:50
topic anymore. The brand's topic
it is about the other topic,
2:46:55
which we didn't touch on today,
which is white supremacy.
2:46:58
Adam Curry: Wow, that's so out.
Oh, no. Yeah, white supremacy is
2:47:03
Oh, that's yesterday's news.
It's like, like racist, you
2:47:06
know, just no more black lives
matter. It's all anti trans
2:47:09
Nazi. But
2:47:10
John C Dvorak: well, we'll get
back to the trans but I would
2:47:12
this might as well play this is
that Did you know three meals a
2:47:15
day as a reflection of white
supremacy?
2:47:17
Adam Curry: No, no doubt, as
long as there's wonderbread. Of
2:47:19
course bag dinner. Yes.
2:47:22
John C Dvorak: So what we have
here, somebody first comes on
2:47:24
and says some of these other one
is transitioning to another
2:47:27
woman who is so happy that this
was being said
2:47:31
Unknown: that the three meals a
day thing breakfast, lunch, and
2:47:33
dinner is from colonialism.
2:47:36
I've been waiting for this day,
continuously. If you don't know
2:47:41
me, please check on my page. I
talk a lot about diet culture
2:47:44
and its roots in white
supremacy, racism and just white
2:47:49
missing the food system as a
whole. And this person really
2:47:51
articulated it well. And also
thank you for sharing this book.
2:47:54
What is so amazing about that
book, and also what's being
2:47:57
discussed in that video is it
really articulates how whiteness
2:48:01
has infiltrated the way that we
view and address our hunger
2:48:05
cues. Because we are trying to
adhere to very strict schedules
2:48:10
that our bodies didn't, you
know, they were not created to
2:48:14
immediately adhere to, like you
don't come out the womb being
2:48:16
like I will only eat breakfast
lunch and dinner society tells
2:48:19
you only eat breakfast, lunch
and dinner. And like think about
2:48:21
how many times people don't eat
after dinner even though they're
2:48:24
still hungry because it's like
well, I can't eat after dinner
2:48:25
that'd be bad. Check out some of
my videos on this.
2:48:29
John C Dvorak: But What's she
talking about?
2:48:32
Adam Curry: Well, it's a
construct you know, everything
2:48:34
is money is a construct
sexuality and gender as a
2:48:37
construct these people are
they're on drugs. They're on the
2:48:42
wrong bad drugs pharma drugs,
this is nuts that's fine. That's
2:48:48
what tick tock is good for I
love that I'm happy for people
2:48:51
John C Dvorak: well, let's go to
Real News and play this because
2:48:54
I want to get this out of here
which is the end of gas in NYC
2:49:00
Adam Curry: the age I was Yeah,
I was the what? The end
2:49:05
John C Dvorak: of gas Oh, the
end of gas. I
2:49:07
Unknown: got it. New York has
passed the country's first
2:49:09
statewide ban on using natural
gas in most new buildings, and
2:49:13
Buress Jeff Brady reports. The
state joins a growing trend
2:49:15
mostly among cities to ban new
gas hookups to meet climate
2:49:18
change goals.
2:49:19
The New York statewide ban is
focused on reducing climate
2:49:22
warming emissions from buildings
starting in 2026. Most new
2:49:26
buildings under seven storeys
will have to use electricity for
2:49:29
energy needs such as space and
water heating and cooking. New
2:49:33
York Governor Kathy hookless
says commercial kitchens are
2:49:36
exempt from the requirement and
she told Fox five New York
2:49:39
existing buildings are exempt
but for new construction,
2:49:43
why not put in what's kind of
the long term less expensive for
2:49:47
you and then and for your kids
futures?
2:49:50
Adam Curry: Well, I wish I had
known you're gonna play this
2:49:52
because then I would have played
my supercut just before this
2:49:55
because this gas stoves
replacing you're being kicked
2:49:59
out of your home Boom. That was
a conspiracy theory.
2:50:02
Unknown: You might think that
the US government is coming for
2:50:05
your gas stove. That is a new
and absolutely ridiculous one
2:50:09
that comes on Fox News and
Republicans are up in arms
2:50:12
because they say the government
is coming to take your stoves
2:50:15
what Republicans are saying is
2:50:18
dammit they're gonna take your
gas though GOP have been stoking
2:50:21
ridiculous new freakout about
gas stoves. No one is taking
2:50:24
your gas stove.
2:50:25
It's a right wing freakout over
the use of gas stoves
2:50:28
is maybe the latest in a long
series of made up culture war
2:50:31
battles, designed to enrage and
rile up their right wing and
2:50:35
paranoid base,
2:50:36
publicans are prone to
conspiracy theories, whether
2:50:39
it's, you know, the Kooky like
JFK, juniors coming back from
2:50:43
the dead to run with Trump, or
the sort of duplicitous like
2:50:48
this administration's coming to
take away your guests, those
2:50:51
Republicans have turned a
government warning about your
2:50:53
health into a lie about
Democrats trying to take your
2:50:57
stoves she gets some bureaucrat
saying something that has no
2:51:01
power and then suddenly, you
have Ron DeSantis. So I'm going
2:51:06
to protect your guests tell you
about gas stoves gas, it's so
2:51:10
stupid people were tweeting me
this weekend that Rhonda Santas
2:51:14
is going to protect my gas
stove. So but I don't seem to be
2:51:19
but the sheer stupidity of it
and if it were just bloggers,
2:51:24
that would be one thing, but
when you have Kevin McCarthy
2:51:27
going out, and other people
talking about gas stoves,
2:51:31
because they keep getting dumber
and dumber, you know, the
2:51:35
Republican Party has become
addicted to this culture of lies
2:51:42
and conspiracy theories that
they have fomented, right and so
2:51:45
they know that there is a
substantial number of people in
2:51:49
the country, in their party, who
they can convince that this is
2:51:53
true, and that it will enrage
those people. This is the this
2:51:58
is like the economy of the
culture of conspiracy theories,
2:52:01
right. I'm certain you and I
will be able to drive through
2:52:06
parts of the country 10 years
from now, and people will be
2:52:09
saying Do you remember back when
Joe Biden was in office and they
2:52:12
tried to take away our guests
stoves?
2:52:15
Adam Curry: I think that kind of
sums up the media.
2:52:18
John C Dvorak: Wow, break clip
and then I would follow
2:52:20
Adam Curry: that I knew
2:52:21
John C Dvorak: within that clip
that one woman said oh under
2:52:24
conspiracy theories think they
are JFQ which is JFK. Okay.
2:52:29
Yeah, Jr, Jr. But But here's JFK
Jr.
2:52:33
Adam Curry: here's the here's
the 32nd pay off, which is kind
2:52:36
of the same as what you just
played
2:52:37
Unknown: New York City is moving
to snuffed out gassed of New
2:52:40
York becoming the first state to
ban natural gas and other fossil
2:52:44
fuels and most new buildings
including gas stoves. The new
2:52:47
law requires all electric
heating and cooking in new
2:52:50
building shorter than seven
storeys by 2027 or Cathy Hoko.
2:52:54
And the democratic control state
legislature approved a bill on
2:52:57
Tuesday prohibiting the use of
fossil fuels for heating and
2:53:01
cooking. The law is the first
statewide ban in the nation and
2:53:05
goes into effect in 2026 for
buildings under seven storeys.
2:53:09
Adam Curry: Don't you just love
it? That to me, that is the
2:53:12
epitome of what would cable news
it's not even all cable. There's
2:53:17
so much mainstream Network News
has become political bullshit.
2:53:23
And we have to sit here and it's
so bad that isn't the end of the
2:53:27
show. We got to we got to throw
this in there. Unbelievable. I'm
2:53:31
gonna add one more to it.
Because I'm delighted to see
2:53:36
this is part of woke ism which
is trans Maoism which is
2:53:40
communism which is Marxism. They
set us up start to destroy the
2:53:44
American family black families
first get the men out of the
2:53:47
home. The baby mama culture Good
job everybody. Good job
2:53:52
Kardashians to have done that
now. Now we've got a ruin
2:53:55
everyone else ruin your
children, your kiddos. But thank
2:53:59
goodness, when it comes to beer
Americans just that's where we
2:54:03
draw the line for some reason.
Especially Bud Light. They got a
2:54:08
dude named Ben here. There are
some consequences. I'm a network
2:54:12
engineer at redacted and due
support for redacted. I got a
2:54:16
ticket for a major outage from
Bud Light. I sent them chasing
2:54:20
their tails. Oops. And then this
unfortunate news.
2:54:25
Unknown: This is your morning
rundown. I'm Kyle Martin. Today
2:54:28
is Friday. It's May 5 2023. And
here's what's happening right
2:54:31
now. Several gay bars in Chicago
announced they will stop selling
2:54:35
Anheuser Busch products. This is
in response to how the company
2:54:38
is handling backlash from a Bud
Light campaign with a
2:54:42
transgender influencer. Some
conservatives began boycotting
2:54:46
the brand a month ago When Dylan
Mulvaney created a sponsored
2:54:48
post promoting Bud Light. The
company released a statement
2:54:51
that made no direct mention of
the LGBTQ community and the
2:54:55
marketing executives behind the
campaign with Mulvaney were put
2:54:58
on leave then yesterday. made
the Belgian American
2:55:00
conglomerates CEO minimize the
company's involvement in the
2:55:04
sponsored posts with the
influencer, saying, quote, it
2:55:06
wasn't a campaign. In response
to that some of Chicago's
2:55:10
largest gay bars now say they
will no longer sell Anheuser
2:55:13
Busch products. Both sidetrack
in North Halstead as well as to
2:55:18
Bear's Hospitality Group which
operates several establishments
2:55:21
in Uptown say they will stop
selling any beer made by the
2:55:24
company including the local
brand,
2:55:26
Adam Curry: goose, Goose River,
I think it is. So they so this
2:55:30
will go down as this will be
marketing 101 crisis management
2:55:35
101 what a what a huge fiasco
not only did you alienate your
2:55:42
core user of your product, but
you alienated the people you
2:55:46
were pandering to.
2:55:48
John C Dvorak: This is double
whammy. It's a it's a classic It
2:55:52
Adam Curry: is so beautiful to
see this and this will end the
2:55:56
influenza gig this is going to
end marketing managers are
2:56:01
peeing their pants right now all
this can really go wrong there
2:56:06
and this will in part take down
the importance of social social
2:56:11
media this is a this is a
seminal
2:56:13
John C Dvorak: moment in
optimist about stuff like that.
2:56:16
Yes, and I'm gonna
2:56:17
Adam Curry: go stroke my light
phone I am an optimist I am an
2:56:22
optimist That's right. You're an
I'm an optimist and you're don't
2:56:27
say realist.
2:56:30
John C Dvorak: I'm a don't say
realist.
2:56:35
Adam Curry: Hi, everybody. Thank
you very much for checking us
2:56:38
out. Once again, great news. You
do not want to leave the troll
2:56:42
room you want to stay on because
up next we have Nick the rat
2:56:45
with the interview with the one
and only Mimi Dvorak with her
2:56:51
too many eggs book, too many
eggs.com Haven't even promoted
2:56:55
it yet those show to make sure
make sure you stay tuned for
2:56:58
that end of show mixes from DS
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2:57:03
Ville. We appreciate that. And
coming to you from the heart of
2:57:05
the Texas hill country here in
FEMA Region number six in the
2:57:08
morning, everybody. I'm Adam
curry
2:57:11
John C Dvorak: from Northern
Silicon Valley, where I remain
2:57:14
I'm John C. Dvorak.
2:57:15
Adam Curry: Come back with us.
Come back to us. Come see us
2:57:18
again, y'all. On Thursday, with
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2:57:22
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2:57:25
of devora.org/na. Until then,
adios mo
2:57:41
Unknown: so if I
2:57:41
seem distracted right now, I am
completely distracted by the
2:57:45
ramifications of this. I mean,
this is a big deal.
2:57:49
Adam Curry: That's about say he
Nachi you're part of the
2:57:51
problem. Now. This is not even
about the pronouns pronouns is
2:57:55
what confused parents to start
with. Okay, so just stay with
2:58:00
the story and don't get
distracted don't get distracted
2:58:04
Unknown: by his pulao in
Afghanistan and scrolling, but
2:58:13
no doomsday plan by quitting
2:58:19
Taliban
2:58:27
Bochy he's the latest low level
release 20 self want to blow the
2:58:31
whistle demonize and put to the
side I'm blessing now with this.
2:58:35
We can Pentagon Papers you're in
a private discord chat room when
2:58:40
it gets overwhelming I just
think about Jordan Peterson
2:58:43
saying clean your clean your
room exposing super sensitive
2:58:48
info is it right Whitney waves
unlimited hangout done in plain
2:58:52
sight over in the corner of the
internet? Is it a square never
2:58:55
be too careful like the Silk
Road I mean and Ross all brushes
2:58:59
John C Dvorak: Wait, just I'm
gonna interrupt this moment
2:59:02
because of that pronoun thing
Trans
2:59:04
Unknown: Day of violence and the
restraint that John Deval Wragge
2:59:11
calling bull crap on belling cat
this whole thing is bullcrap
2:59:16
influencers on Instagram
algorithms I mean it's all a
2:59:25
sham and then influences look
into the camera with Sinead and
2:59:31
grins Nikkei and by Lena and
rifle putting email campaign ads
2:59:34
again with this Dylan movie
clown targeting confused
2:59:38
children. Buttons University
kids nowadays are Grubin fold
2:59:42
they what Robin? Robin for the
grades can debate a different
2:59:47
viewpoint without being sent
into a rage. Just relax the
2:59:51
smoking joints or when the Fed
not looking to fit and interrupt
2:59:54
the speakers on the stage and
they can behave like the
2:59:58
spitting in the face of your
customer base online has been in
3:00:02
decline for a really really long
time. They Rick Adams in the New
3:00:06
York Robocop do what
transmittable with society is
3:00:19
how old it is say SpaceX was
building rockets I sure hope you
3:00:25
on musk and his crew know what
you're doing if not I got my
3:00:30
button strapped to 1 million
tons of TNT This is your captain
3:00:36
speaking we will get about two
to two one liter
3:00:40
clear whether it's been today
3:00:42
buckle and enjoy the trip you
were standing there alone the
3:00:50
ship waiting all systems are go
they rip posted aren't nobody
3:00:55
was convinced but the computer
said it had the evidence. No
3:01:00
need to the countdown stop I was
watching in a trance my crew was
3:01:09
certain nothing was left to
chance it's all working. It was
3:01:13
trying to relax in the capsule.
Hey send me up a martini chokes
3:01:19
me for three
3:01:35
was gone please have some money
3:01:54
last somebody's cut corners over
here. Somebody tweets we
3:02:05
send another son I want to get
home
3:02:18
Adam Curry: dads right. Tick
tock tick tock tick tock tick
3:02:26
tock tick tock tick tock tick
tock tick tock tick tock.
3:02:46
Unknown: Right
3:03:08
Tick Tock
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