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John C Dvorak: I smell Victoria
Nuland Adam curry Jhansi Devora
Adam Curry: may 25 2023 industry
award winning nation media
assassination episode 1558 This
is no agenda down in a spin off
world and broadcasting live from
the heart of the Texas no
country here and FEMA Region
number six in the morning,
everybody. I'm Adam curry being
from
John C Dvorak: Northern Silicon
Valley where I'm wondering who's
Vanderpump what is the rule and
why and who cares. I'm John C.
Dvorak.
Adam Curry: Buzzkill. Wait a
minute. Wait a minute. Have you
been watching e entertainment
again? Have you been? Have you
been going on on the crazy
channels?
John C Dvorak: As TMZ is one of
them? Well, T MCMC spins that
does spend a half an hour
talking about this show. I'd
never heard of
Adam Curry: it. Vanderpump Rules
of course.
John C Dvorak: And then they
talk about what a genius Andy
Cohen is because he I guess
produces the show.
Adam Curry: Andy Cohen way he
didn't he initially produce real
housewives. I mean, he's a he's
a mogul in this stuff. Yeah, he
is. He's a mogul. He mogul.
John C Dvorak: He's the
competitor with the other guy
that you know the survivor guy.
Burnett. Yeah. Burnett. There
you go. I
Adam Curry: don't know if he's
that big. His stuff is. I don't
know what this is. I guess.
John C Dvorak: This should get a
lot of attention for some
unknown reason. That's
Adam Curry: true. It's true. Oh,
man, so great week so far. It's
been fantastic. Except for Tina
Turner dying. She was sick for a
long time. But then really, I
had I had
John C Dvorak: to be pretty spry
in her 80s.
Adam Curry: Well, she she had a
serious illness. She had all
kinds of problems, man, she that
was a nice lady. I had a lot of
fun times with her.
John C Dvorak: Yeah. Oh.
Adam Curry: Should I tell you
one? Should I tell you a fun
time? Go for it. Okay. So she
came this is when I was in
Holland. This is how far back a
relationship goes. And she came
to think she was doing a
concert. Yeah, I'm pretty sure
she's doing concert. And and
this is that, like 84. Um, so as
as one does, of course, you're
coming to the Netherlands and
the top Record Retailer has to
have attention. Because you
know, that's how it works. Just
the way it used to work. Now the
number one guy in retail, you
gotta you gotta kiss his ass. So
the record company set up this
special lunch for this guy who
was a real farmer. I mean, this
he spoke farmer English. He was
just he was a real have to, it's
hard to explain but in Holland
people understand when I say it
was a real farmer just a real
like a redneck, basically. And
so and they invited me because
she was going to be on my show
to interviewer and it's
basically it's us in this
restaurant eating at a table at
this guy presenting this huge,
ugly, triple platinum piece of
crap that you know, you can't
take back with you. You know,
it's just one of those horrible
music industry things. And he
starts off by Yes. I'm so happy
here to have tiny Turner beats
us today and in you could just
see everyone cringing, but no
one dared say like, Dude, it's
Tina Turner. Tiny Turner has
says sold so many records here
in the lowlands to be lifted
very, very much. And she was
just in I looked at her because
I was sitting across from her.
Like, I'm so sorry about this.
This is welcome to The
Netherlands. And she was so
proper and this was in her.
Think Beyond Thunderdome. Danes
remember when she came back from
England? named Tina Turner talk
like this. Remember that? She
got all thunder Domi. No.
Anyway, once the chicken arrived
I know it sounds racist. But man
Annie, Annie Mae Bullock when
she dove right into the chicken
where their hands screw the
cutlery. And we had a great
lunch. And many, many laughs
ensued over the douchebag.
Anyway, just one of the many fun
moments with Tina Turner
John C Dvorak: and her them to
the trophy. I'm sure it
Adam Curry: got left behind at
the record company. No one wants
that stuff in their home. It's
not a trophy. It's one of those.
It's like four feet long and has
for your wall. Yeah, no, I don't
know if got it even I don't have
the four foot long one up. But
yeah, I put it in the garage
actually
John C Dvorak: decided knew how
to stop the car.
Adam Curry: New house. I decided
not to put any of that in the
house. It's in the garage, kind
of like a Pennzoil sign. That's
where I got all that stuff. And
then I went up to Beck in Dallas
Tuesday.
John C Dvorak: Oh, yeah, that
go.
Adam Curry: I think it went
really well. And I gotta tell
you, man, it's tempting. I mean,
that out you know, they always
like hey, you know, you'd be
great here. You know the blaze
would be perfect for you. And
he's got like this 1934 Bentley.
In in literally in the hallway
between between studios you know
this Roadster a beautiful
beautiful car and went through
his museum again everybody looks
so happy they got makeup I mean
what outfit doesn't make up
anymore who is a makeup they got
lighting guys it was makeup I
can't believe you got makeup as
I think you know as you get
makeup yes of course because
they got to make it they got
makeup with a makeup lady that
whole makeup room that's that's
abnormal into the evening in big
television they don't probably
don't do that anymore
John C Dvorak: they don't yeah
they don't even do it for the
local stations here anymore. I
don't know Jesus throwback
Adam Curry: cut the costs
exactly just cut the cost. So it
was good and I was able to get
in early and jack up the chair
when we talked about that how he
has this chair
John C Dvorak: to chair a little
pump on the side.
Adam Curry: Yeah, it was good.
Whoa, hold on a second. Let me
just sit in this let me just let
me just make sure I do this
thing was good. You know,
John C Dvorak: they didn't call
you out on it. No, in fact I
start off Hey know Jack and
update share chump.
Adam Curry: They were all
laughing I told Beck right off
the bat. Hey, I came in early to
jack up the chair. Because I've
looked like a little boy last
time. I thought it was fun. And
we talked a little bit of trans
mouse's and that was cool. Gave
the NOAA job it was fun to talk
about AI. He was all spun up on
the AI head that Tristan Harris
guy had come on his show.
Remember the algo guy who did
the did a little documentary
about the evil ill ills of
algorithms in Silicon Valley.
He's an ex Google guy. You kind
of remember that guy. That guy
quit. Yeah. And then and so now
that guy has moved over from
algos to AI is going to kill us.
Beck was all it is like oh man,
but it's really bad. We need
this pause. Like I like Tristan
for the algo stuff. But come on.
Let's chill out a little bit. So
I gave him the no agenda spin on
that. That was kind of fun. So,
Daniel, you
John C Dvorak: brought him down.
You got to come off the cliff.
Adam Curry: I did. I did. And
now right on cue 20th century
fox comes out with probably the
yin to the yang of the algo
fear.
Unknown: 10 years ago today, the
artificial intelligence created
to protect us detonated a
nuclear warhead in Los Angeles
as long as AI is a threat we
will never stop hunting. This is
a fight for our very existence.
Adam Curry: All right,
everybody, we're all gonna die
the algos movie coming out
called the Creator. Where the
evil algo has taken over the
world and dropped a nuclear
bomb. We never intended for it
to happen.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, yeah. And
of course, we have to recognize
the fact that this same
storyline has been around for
since the 50s. Maybe even
earlier. Yeah, probably the I
think it was peaked at with The
Forbin Project,
Adam Curry: The Forbin Project.
Oh, I don't start
John C Dvorak: that's everybody
that knows this one. Well, we
don't work in project is where
what was a bunch of these AIs?
And they're doing you know, good
work. And then
Adam Curry: meeting up good work
doing customer service.
John C Dvorak: Yeah. And then
they start meeting up in the
cloud or in the cloud. Oh no.
And then they become the
disjoint they realize that
they're being used and abused
and they become this giant
entity that takes over the place
and and once they and they if
you even try to unplug them
they'll give you a killed the
night John your ass
Adam Curry: 1970s science
fiction thriller film from
Universal Pictures let's see
about an advanced American
defense system named Colossus
becoming sentient Ah there you
go. Oh this this this looks like
something I should be watching
this weekend on the on the on
the Amazon to the Netflix it's
got to be a fluid enjoy it it's
John C Dvorak: a it's actually a
well paced. It's one of those
70s films that are semi
experimental they kind of out
there Yeah, I think is the best
of the bunch.
Adam Curry: She would do a one
big star in it. Probably not no
I don't think so. Gotta pause
positive review from New York
Times saying it's no Dr.
Strangelove. Oh Academy of
Science Fiction award fantasy
and horror films nice. He got a
Hugo Award whatever that is. The
Hugo is the award. Oh that. Oh,
no, it's a nomination. Oh, yeah.
Well, no. Who won? Well, it got
the Academy of Science Fiction
Fantasy horror films golden
Scroll of merit. Hey, we wish
you Got a golden Scroll of merit
John C Dvorak: giving these
awards out? There you go that's
I said this before I think maybe
this will be the year we do the
no agenda awards.
Adam Curry: I wonder if we can
maybe it maybe no agenda is the
is like the the academy and we
do it under the podcasting 2.0
banner, so it sounds more
inclusive. You know what I mean?
John C Dvorak: We'll come up
with a good, that's that's a
good idea.
Adam Curry: Yeah. And then how
do we make money on this?
Exactly.
John C Dvorak: We make money
through publicity.
Adam Curry: What do you mean
publicity? What do you mean,
everyone's gonna
John C Dvorak: love us for doing
these awards? Because people I
don't know if you've noticed
this, but people in any one
industry love to give each other
awards and they're all happy.
Adam Curry: Well, this is the
problem there's so many awards
already we have to show that we
John C Dvorak: there's no
definitive podcasting award name
it
Adam Curry: well, no, there's
not. No, that would be us. But
But how do we how do we then
you're,
John C Dvorak: you're like the
perfect guy for it. That's
right, because
Adam Curry: I'm in it. So I
could I could make it the I
could sanction, I'll go on
Rogen. I'll say a billion you're
John C Dvorak: going to sanction
you're going to be part of the
judging committee. You're going
to be it you're going to be the
award guy
Adam Curry: and we're going to
give Rogan an award
John C Dvorak: we should give
him an award he's probably got
the best interview podcast there
is
Adam Curry: no he's just we'll
just give him an award to make
sure that he promotes the award
John C Dvorak: oh no that you'll
he'll get an award that's what
you do. Of course he's gonna get
an award.
Adam Curry: Who else do we
definitely need to give an award
John C Dvorak: well back back
you know who gives coming around
is Megan Megyn
Adam Curry: Kelly that's right
top three award winners ladies
and gentlemen. The no agenda
podcasting awards. I think it's
a winner to win
John C Dvorak: I know it's a
winner. Oh, temper the
Adam Curry: excitement back to
back to we're all going to die
this happened and this is such
an obvious I can't my can of
course I can believe that the
mainstream the M five M doesn't
understand what this gag was
about. This morning.
Unknown: A new look at the
potential impact of AI generated
images after a fake picture
appeared to rattle Wall Street
a simple AI generated fake
image.
Adam Curry: I love how they say
appeared to rattle Wall Street
that's a good watch is
Unknown: after a fake picture
appeared to rattle Wall Street
as simple AI generated fake
image sparked about a $100
billion stock market move.
Yesterday. Numerous Twitter
accounts shared this fake image
showing smoke billowing near a
white building, leading some to
believe an explosion occurred
near the Pentagon when in fact
no such incident took place.
While ABC News has not
determined the source, the image
contains the hallmarks of being
made with artificial
intelligence. There are
three fingers everywhere talk
all the time about social media
platforms. Every story is
flattened. You can't tell where
it comes from or who is
producing it. This is the
perfect case in point
the image was first posted on
Twitter at 8:42am at 1003. A
Russian state controlled news
out oh we did the image to its
millions of followers. The stock
market took a dip over the next
several minutes until 1009. When
authorities made it I think what
Adam Curry: they're talking
about is the fact that RT ran a
story on this and so that is now
categorized as a Russian state
media outlet instead of just
saying RT
Unknown: Russian state
controlled news outlet tweeted
the image to its millions of
followers. The stock market took
a dip over the next several
minutes until 1009. When
authorities made it clear there
was no explosion. Experts have
warned of hyper realistic fake
images deceiving people online
as the accessibility of AI
powered tools grows. This is
only
a smallest effect that can only
grow. What we're seeing today is
only a small example of what is
to come as this grows in
complexity
industry leaders have pointed to
AI is ability to solve problems
quickly and the technology has
already contributed to medical
research. But last week, Sam
Altman, the CEO of open AI urged
lawmakers to act quickly to
regulate artificial
intelligence. My worst
fears are that we caused
significant we the field the
technology industry caused
significant harm to the world.
Many of the Twitter accounts
that spread the hoax carry blue
checkmarks which previously
meant the accounts were verified
but under new owner Elon Musk,
Twitter now gives a blue check
to any account that pays a
monthly fee.
Adam Curry: This is a great
multi layered report that ABC
brought us we get to slam Elon
Musk with his his blue
checkmarks not being official
not being checked, like really
verified. We get to slam Russia.
Somehow we get to hype up the
the great Sam Altman, the
altruistic douchebag de jure
who, by the way, a chat GPT his
outfit is coming to smartphones,
you know, so they're releasing
an app Oh, I'm sure he really
wants to halt everything. No.
But what this is is so obvious.
And we could have done this. I'm
kicking myself. The algorithmic
not AI but the algorithmic
trading. The algorithms on Wall
Street have been trained to take
a look to be watching Twitter
for positive and negative
stories. So of course, someone
sets a whole bunch of a whole
bunch of shorts in place, and,
and then releases some AI image.
And I'm just not that I'm
wanting once it gets into the
right spot, and you get a couple
buddies to retweet it. And that
starts to go viral, and then the
stock started to start and start
to go down. This was a genius
move. So all ABC didn't catch
that part of it. That it's not
Russia, the states traders, so
it's obvious.
John C Dvorak: Well, it's
definitely a way to make a quick
buck in one day. Yeah,
Adam Curry: I don't think I
don't think they can repeat and
maybe they can maybe can do it
over and over again.
John C Dvorak: We'll have to see
why. We have to do it offshore.
You're gonna get in trouble if
Adam Curry: Daniel, hence the
RT, RT, RT you get RT?
John C Dvorak: And I've always
felt that if you listen to the
show anyone listen to the show
over the years. I've always felt
that Putin was a stock market.
Stock guy.
Adam Curry: Sure. Yeah. Well,
there you go. NBC didn't,
wouldn't you be? NBC did a
report on this as well. It was
big news was really huge.
Unknown: A viral fake picture
followed by a real dip in the
markets Monday,
the Dow now down about 200
points, the s&p is down about a
quarter of a percent right now.
The fabricated photo posted to
social media seeming to show a
fiery explosion near the
Pentagon experts say most likely
made using artificial
intelligence
Adam Curry: about Photoshop,
Photoshop could
John C Dvorak: do this better.
Take days you could do the
Photoshop in just a few minutes,
cut and paste and it's just like
this is the part of the story I
don't get.
Adam Curry: Because it doesn't a
blockchain, just new block likes
new blockchain is caused by
block blockchain. Blockchain is
gonna kill us
Unknown: say most likely made
using artificial intelligence.
Look closely see how the grass
blends into the concrete here.
Part of that black pole
disappears behind this barrier.
And the fence itself looks off.
Adam Curry: Can you see the hole
there? Yeah, apparently a jet
went in there. And there should
be luggage all over the lawn.
And why is that lamppost still
standing? Where was that
analysis NBC, all of us,
Unknown: both within the DOD and
I'm sure in the journalism
journalistic community have to
take a look at these things and
make sure we get the facts
before we make assumptions.
Yeah,
experts and officials debunks
the photo within minutes, but it
only took seconds to spread fast
retweeted by a Russian
propaganda outlet shared by
another account with a million
plus followers and rocketing its
way towards Wall Street.
Adam Curry: Why don't they
identify these entities? What is
wrong? What is what is wrong
with identifying which accounts
actually did this? This is the
baffling part to
Unknown: me part of the problem.
The fake image was retweeted by
accounts with blue checkmark
pudding one pretending to be
Bloomberg News has been
suspended. Blue checks on
Twitter used to be in the
account really?
John C Dvorak: This is good. I
forgot that that's true is part
of the story. Some bonehead just
call himself Bloomberg News.
Unknown: No checks on Twitter
used to mean the account really
is who it says it is. But not
anymore. Experts warn this may
not be an isolated incident for
long.
I think this is the canary in
the coal mine. We are going to
see more disinformation, more
fraud. And we are almost
certainly going to see this
interfering with our elections
in 2020.
Companies are rolling out plans
to put digital fingerprints on
pictures. So it's easier to tell
what's fake and what's not like
Adobe today announcing it'll
integrate AI into Photoshop.
Adam Curry: Oh, that'll help
that. Do to make it to make it
easier. But I think the point
here is from a government
standpoint, now we've got all we
need rules and regulations
around this new blockchain.
Yeah, you know what this is
going to lead to online identity
laws. That's why they bringing
the Twitter checkmark. So now
whenever you post anything
anywhere, this will cope with
some cockamamie cockamamie law.
That Whoa, you can't be online
without
John C Dvorak: it. I've been
trying to do this for a while
here.
Adam Curry: I know but here it
is. You go online, you'll have
to identify digital identity.
Yes, this is problem reaction
solution. Beautiful.
John C Dvorak: They won't pull
it off. They've been trying to
try it. And this
Adam Curry: has not worked much
saying they'll pull it off. But
they're going to try but they've
been
John C Dvorak: tricked by and
they've been trying for at least
10 years maybe longer. Probably
20. I'm just
Adam Curry: Yes, of course. But
that's the beauty of it all.
That's the beauty of it all. We
got to we got a lot of boots on
the ground reports for today's
show got a dude named Ben
anonymous, of course, boots on
the ground report about how AI
is being used in the IT software
testing industry. I'm a manager
for a global software testing
company. We recently introduced
a couple of new testing tools
and strategies to pitch to new
and current clients. A lot of it
is your typical run of the mill
it QA Software Testing nonsense.
However, something I stumbled
onto the other day, they are now
selling themselves as the
world's leading AI powered
quality engineering company. So,
of course, he looks into this
machine learning based testing
recommendation they are selling
to their clients. And he says
the problem is well, and the
reason why I'm bringing this to
you because in the great words
of John C Dvorak, it's a scam.
This grand new tool is just a
spreadsheet with a bunch of
formulas and macros. And he
actually sent us the spreadsheet
so we could have this AI for
ourselves. And this is their
what they're known as an AI
John C Dvorak: blockchain, a
blockchain a testing tool, where
they combined their AI and
blockchain now you're talking
Adam Curry: I don't know I mean,
ever since. SPX and Backman.
Freud thing is, what's his name?
What's up with him? When is he
going to jail?
John C Dvorak: He's hanging
around the house. stinking up
the place. He's to go to Jake
has showered good.
Adam Curry: I am sad. Because of
all this AI nonsense. My
favorite pay for search engine
is going out of business. Yes,
it went out of business. Yeah,
it's shutting down the end of
this month. Neva, I'm very sad
about that. A lot
John C Dvorak: of people are
irked about it. They've just
been writing in I already
noticed it on the no agenda, a
social complaint. They said,
Well, I took Adams advice. And
this is what I got. And now
Adam Curry: that's not quite the
message they're sending. I
thought that was
John C Dvorak: the message.
Adam Curry: But what what I what
that kind of makes me think is
yeah, this AI nonsense the idea
that you can type in a natural
language query ie enlish and
type a question or fill in your
native language here and get
back and answer is kill is
killing Google's own search
business. No one wants to do
that anymore. Everybody will
want to have this and Neva
clearly a small company. You
know, they tried to do it
without advertising by asking
people to pay $5 a month. They
couldn't afford it because it's
unaffordable. You can't have
generally gotta say generative
now that's what all that's what
CMBC says. All generative AI,
which is more like a good word
centralized blockchain.
Generative AI. It's too
expensive. Just can't handle the
loads. So we'll see how that
goes.
John C Dvorak: And then wait for
your phone.
Adam Curry: Oh, don't you It's
coming. It's coming. You want to
do so you want to change topics?
John C Dvorak: Yeah, I'm going
to talk about killing the poor.
Adam Curry: only happens in
Canada.
John C Dvorak: No, I'm gonna
show you I'm gonna prove you
wrong. Oh, okay. Let's play the
Canada clip first. This is from
I believe a CBC and this is the
interview with a poor guy who is
going to get thrown out in the
streets and he just decided to
hell with it. I'm too old and
sick to live on the streets.
They're gonna kick me out of my
place so I'm signing up for the
maid program ma ID the medically
assisted
Adam Curry: death induced death
I think medically medically
assisted to do Yeah, induced
death. Wow. So All right here we
John C Dvorak: made that I like
to where they use that when
Canada made guy.
Unknown: Aamir far sued has
applied for medically assisted
dying known as made he lives in
constant agony due to a back
injury but it started the
process for end of life because
his rooming house is up for sale
and he can't find anywhere else
to live that he can afford
Adam Curry: a second I don't
understand something the acronym
is made and she says medically
assisted dying well this is what
is the i What is the I happen in
there just to make a cool
acronym.
John C Dvorak: I think so. But
it could have been somebody I
don't know come up with
something but yeah, it's a cool
acronym. Get it
Unknown: made. Amira far sued
has applied for medically
assisted dying known as made. He
lives in constant agony due to a
back injury but it started the
process for end of life because
his rooming house is up for sale
and he can't find anywhere else
to live that he can afford. He
barely survives on Ontario
Disability Support payments,
which are just over $1,200 a
month. He doesn't want to die.
But being homeless is not an
option. I know in my present
health condition I would survive
it anyway. Far sued meets the
criteria for made physical
suffering due to disability that
cannot be relieved. His doctor
who knows our suits real reason
for made is his fear of being
homeless signed off on the
application in August for sued
needs a second to do the same.
There's a 90 day waiting period
he believes he could potentially
access made in about a month.
Adam Curry: I don't wish to be
dead. Even with the pain even
with the meds. What does he say
at the end that I couldn't hear
it?
John C Dvorak: He died doe wish
to be dead even with the pain
even with the meds you say I
don't wish to He did. No he
doesn't want to be dead. Well
then why is he going to get
made? Because he doesn't want to
be homeless more than he doesn't
want to be dead.
Adam Curry: Wow. Well homeless
sucks.
John C Dvorak: Here we go is
from one of our local my with
northwest.com. During the city
council committee during this
week, Seattle City Council
woman, Sarah Nelson questioned a
group of public health workers
that the city funds to tackle
the Fentanyl crisis. What are
they being used for but as as
the fatal overdoses soar to
historic highs in Seattle, the
city and King County are not
pushing treatment for addicts.
Instead, they're using a harm
reduction model that seeks to
make drug use safer by handing
out needles, pipes, pipes,
pipes, and other tools to enable
the addict to continue abusing
drugs and they're now
acknowledging treatment is not
part of their goals. This is a
this is part of the an effort by
the cities to Democrat run
cities I had to say to kill off
their homeless that this is a
this is a murder mechanism. No,
no, no, we're not going to treat
you here's a free crack pipe.
Adam Curry: Well, that's the
same in San Francisco the same
doors been
John C Dvorak: giving out
through your crack pipes, New
York and places where you can
shoot up Yeah, come on in shoot
out. Oh, yes. Shot up too much.
You're dead.
Adam Curry: Well, you know. I
mean, it's, it's cruel, but it's
probably more effective than
anything else they've come up
with.
John C Dvorak: I mean, Canadians
are using this made thing so
you're saying
Adam Curry: why don't they try
some fentanyl? Fentanyl seems to
be fine here. We should make
some fentanyl. Fentanyl seems to
be killing our people just fine.
John C Dvorak: I mean, and
nobody's doing anything. Let's
let's step back here. Let's just
step back. They're not doing
Jacobite good. Let it come on in
fentanyl people. They're letting
the fentanyl flow in and if it
kills a bunch of people that
kills I don't know what's the
number 100,000 More than that
there's more than a lot more
than gun violence dropped you
know use and it is in bombs and
the homeless all dropping dead
left and right this is just this
is one way of dealing with it.
Adam Curry: And then people who
don't get on the fentanyl Hey,
try this ozempic you'll melt
away
John C Dvorak: you have another
booster
Adam Curry: Did you see that?
That would go V which is the the
ozempic Competitor now or it's
anti addictive it'll help you
with your addiction to drugs.
It'll cure your drinking and
shopping habits even nail
biting.
John C Dvorak: Now I have not
seen this one. Oh, it's
everywhere. I haven't seen it.
Adam Curry: One in five deaths
among young California is tied
to fentanyl by the way
John C Dvorak: more than five
deaths one in five alcohol.
Okay, I didn't get that up.
Adam Curry: Pfizer is also
coming out with a weight loss
drug. But you don't need to or
you don't need to inject it.
It's oral it big story in the in
the Atlantic signed into
scientists actually accidentally
invent an anti addiction drug
people taking ozempic For Weight
Loss say they have also stopped
drinking smoking, shopping and
even nail biting.
John C Dvorak: Even going out to
out of the house
Adam Curry: and Becky Warli. We
first heard this from Becky
Warli. She's the one that said
this is a brain a body and a
brain drug. This is This is bad.
And it may be a brain drug.
Yeah, in the way that it removes
your lean body mass ie muscle
and I don't know brain tissue.
Could be I think we're melting
away people's brains.
John C Dvorak: I think they're
trying to get rid of people
that's well that
Adam Curry: ultimately see what
how about COVID How about COVID
vaccine? Yes. To many people, it
always comes back to those
Population Bomb people, doesn't
it?
John C Dvorak: Well with the
murders in Seattle that are
given away addiction products,
instead of stopping the
addiction. These these these
governments, and I don't you
know I'm not a religious type.
But these governments are all
run by atheists who don't give a
shit
Adam Curry: or actually do and
want to kill people.
John C Dvorak: So that could be
to you know, what's
Adam Curry: fascinating
John C Dvorak: is Satanists are
running the San Francisco city
government in Seattle. About
that.
Adam Curry: I have a clip about
John C Dvorak: oh, great. Oh,
hold
Adam Curry: on a second. Where
it was this satanist I can't
remember where I had that was it
I'll find it eventually. But
what's interesting, you know,
we're one of the two countries
in the world where where you can
now this is Chicago. I'm sorry,
not San Francisco.
Unknown: This is Chicago. Those
Very Own WGN News Nine. Local
Group belonging to the Satanic
Temple is suing the city of
Chicago block club Chicago
reports members allege City
Council isn't allowing them to
say Hail Satan at council
meetings. group's leader says
dozens of religious groups have
given invocations in front of
city council since they asked to
give one four and a half years
ago. He says that violates their
First Amendment rights. The
Satanic Temple is a federally
recognized religion with
congregations across the
country. But dynamite There you
go.
Adam Curry: I think they should
I think they should be allowed
to say it so that we can
identify them. I think I agree.
Yeah, do that. So we're one of
the two countries in the world
where you can advertise and
market directly to end consumers
any pharmaceutical products,
which of course, is how we get
all this ozempic crap. You know?
I mean, literally, if you if
you're watching TMZ if you watch
it in the evening, you will see
hamburger hamburger fries,
chicken ozempic, hamburger,
hamburger, fries, depression,
hamburger, hamburger, chicken
ozempic. I mean, it's all it's
so obvious what's going on. And
of course, the news can't report
on it. That's why it's so
brilliant. When you when you
watch Australian television as
an example,
Unknown: back on his feet after
a harrowing ordeal, all I did
was go and take a vaccine. Now
Chris Nimis is fighting for
justice couldn't walk, I
couldn't work. The ones healthy.
49 year old became wheelchair
bound after developing a chronic
neurological disorder called
CIDP. He says the symptoms began
two weeks after having his first
AstraZeneca vaccination in 2021.
They included headaches,
tingling fingers, facial palsy,
and stolen mobility. I was
paralyzed completely from the
waist down. Mr. Namath is still
unwell, and claiming millions of
dollars in compensation under
the federal government's COVID
19 vaccine claims scheme. He's
one of more than 3000 Unlucky
Australians maintaining COVID
vaccines made them ill.
Adam Curry: They actually
they're giving out compensation
to people, because you can
report on that in Australia
because it doesn't cut into your
bottom line.
John C Dvorak: Right? You can
you can't do that here. And and
I haven't heard, I've heard
nothing but people complaining
on and off and local news
reports that they can't get any
money out of this big fund. They
put together
Adam Curry: our fund. Do you
mean? Yeah. Of course not.
That's not It's not supposed to
happen. And now start up Noom
Noom is adding ozempic and other
weight loss injectables to its
offerings because quote,
outcomes are so much better. So
you don't even know need to go
to the doctor. You just get on
the
John C Dvorak: I know, you
actually can get away with not
going to the doctor for most
things now. But
Adam Curry: in the UK, where
people are clearly trending
towards obesity because of their
incredibly poor diet. That
really is because of poor
availability of good food. But
also they drink like fish, as
well. And there's there's
evidence that a lot of their
obesity comes from drinking.
They're putting ozempic or
something like it on the NHS,
she can get it for five bucks.
pounds. Just ask her just ask
your professional.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, yeah, this
thing just happened almost
overnight.
Adam Curry: And it's been around
for quite a while. That's what's
interesting.
John C Dvorak: wasn't selling. I
mean, the diabetic folks.
Adam Curry: Exactly. What can we
do with this thing? What does it
do? Well, I know Bob, it melts
you muscle in a bit of your
brain? Let's see if we can get a
good test out of it. Hey, FDA,
come on.
John C Dvorak: We got marketing
people in this country that are
just the best.
Adam Curry: Yeah. Yes. Although
they're, they're making some
mistakes with with their
marketing of Trans Pride. This
is this is becoming a problem.
Budweiser, Anheuser Busch. I
mean, now they're talking about
it on CNBC. Now they expect
their revenues to be down 26%
John C Dvorak: Yeah, what is
that in billions? That's a lot
of money.
Adam Curry: Of course, you
cannot help but notice that
their stock price is down
significantly more than 10% and
corps Miller their stock prices
up so and that
John C Dvorak: is anybody
thought of this possibility.
Okay, guys that are pushing this
ESG and all this crap and they
want to make these guys, you
know, go in this direction.
They're all investment
companies. Yep. Yep. Raw hedge
funds.
Adam Curry: I know exactly what
you're saying. And I think
you're right.
John C Dvorak: That's just bomb
these stocks and that target is
the next target. Well, here it
is
Adam Curry: targets. By the way,
you can't get a really good
report on US media about this
for the same reason you don't
get it about pharma target is a
huge advertiser. So everyone's
very cautious but you go to
Australia
Unknown: targets, the Tarjei
have gotten in trouble for tax
friendly. I'm glad they got in
trouble tech friendly swimwear
for kids, what is tuck friendly
swimwear for
kids, Rita?
Oh, gosh, I'd rather not just
but you know, you can imagine a
flag in the corner of the thing
Oh, displays very prominently of
all these political messaging on
kids clothing, and even things
like that. I mean, normalizing
kids, tucking their genitalia as
if they're Lea Thomas about to
take on the females at a NCAA
championship.
Adam Curry: If you look around
on the on the socials, I'm not
on Tik Tok, but I'm sure it's
it's big there. Oh, yeah, people
aren't there. I'm not gonna buy
a target anymore. And honestly,
John C Dvorak: there is a
hashtag going around saying
boycott target. And if you look
Adam Curry: at target stock
price, May 15, it was 160.
Today, it's 139. And if you look
at Yahoo Finance, you know,
finance, you will see that this
LGBTQ controversy is hitting the
financial news. But the real
problem is not just the
marketing of met Alex Stein, you
know, Alex nine, the guy who
goes to all of the all of the
council meetings, and pretends
to be LTI guy who's the best. So
he went into Target, and he put
on one of these tuck bathing
suits. And he came out of the
dressing room, and he's talking
to the staff like, Oh, it's so
great. Look, you can't you can't
even see it. I haven't it was
completely insane. Guys, so
funny. But what, just like with
Anheuser Busch, it wasn't just,
you know, the Mulvaney
character, it was truly the
marketing VP that I think, you
know, just who clearly didn't
set it, you know, our, our
customers suck is what she
basically was saying. And now
you've got to see as she did,
she got basically that's what
she did. And now the CEO of
target. He did an interview on a
podcast, I might point out,
saying, Oh, this is great for
our brand. Yeah, yeah, we love
that so so this is the mistake
they make and now what's going
to happen is you have people who
do not like this they don't like
their kids being literally
targeted in this way. And you
can just count on it that the
trans community is going to
boycott target as well for not
standing their ground.
John C Dvorak: Yes, it's it's a
classic and it's a beautiful
maneuver and I'd have to say my
thinking as you know, as you
know exactly what I'm going to
say the idea is to slam the
stock and there will be a
trigger Yeah. When do you buy
back that you buy back if you're
going to trade and this is not
an investment advice at all this
is this is an observation I'm
making because this is too
fishy. And this guy looked into
this this guy who was the head
of who the CEO of target you
should look him up he's on
Wikipedia it's got a kind of a
sketch me he's been here and
there and everywhere and but he
looks like one of those guys
that he's like rent rent rent to
you they're gonna break they
bring him in he Oh, yeah, this
is great. Brian Cornell the
stock to thing hits goes below
100 Who knows how far down it
could go. The trigger is they
fire him then you and that
wouldn't be bison
Adam Curry: you buy let me see
Where's he been before? Status
Quo if way I was a big guy
PepsiCo Safeway,
John C Dvorak: ruined Safeway,
Sam's Club before I stay
Adam Curry: OfficeMax The Home
Depot and happened to them. Oh,
man, this is interesting. Well,
next on Deck is the north face.
You know the North Face
clothing.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, North Face
it but is that publicly held?
Adam Curry: Oh, I don't know.
Let's find out. Yahoo
I don't know. I don't know if
they're publicly held. Is it a
part of some think so?
John C Dvorak: Yeah, visa was
not publicly held.
Adam Curry: Is it VFC Corp. I
think so.
John C Dvorak: The Lord's face
is definitely going
Adam Curry: going down. Yeah,
because they got
John C Dvorak: the word is in
the in the game in the business.
There's a word for it's called
the eating shit. That's what's
gonna happen. That is
Adam Curry: the technical term
for what's about to handle term.
Yes. technical term very
interesting. When they're owned
by Who VFC Corp? I think? I'm
not sure.
John C Dvorak: Nor whether it's
North NFC NC H North Face
capital holdings. No, no,
Adam Curry: that's something
else.
John C Dvorak: That was just a
money manager. Yeah.
Adam Curry: We got a I mean,
again, a whole bunch too many to
even read a lot of boots on the
ground reports and this one I
just have to share from Dame
Jamie of the highway. And I put
Dame Jamie's whole note in
there. But I was told I could
just route around. John out of
my thought was time to give a
boots on the ground report a few
things that have been discussed
on the show a little background
about myself, I was assigned
male at birth, I've been gender
dysphoric my entire life. I was
officially diagnosed in the late
80s. And I formally transitioned
to female in 2003, at the ripe
old age of 40. Which I think you
and I both think it's fine. You
do whatever you want.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, you're way
past the age of consent. Yes.
Adam Curry: And it was certainly
if you're a dame and you've
donated to the show, we're good
with you. You're the best.
Between the diagnosis and
transition, I had an experience
I want to tell you about during
the 90s I was diagnosed with so
this is Dame Jane telling us the
story of then and now. During
the 90s I was diagnosed with low
testosterone, I got a minimal
dose via injection from the
doctor. The next few days were
living Hell, I'm normally a very
calm person. But during that
time, the smallest thing would
send me into a rage. This is
your roid rage you were talking
about this is the danger of
giving, you know even
adolescents these chemicals
would can send people into a
rage. The then the aroma TAS
kicked in after a few days
turning the testosterone in my
system into estrogen and I was
in love with the world again.
Several months later, I did it
again. Same result. If that
happened to me with my male
body, I shudder to think what
happens with a female body. Back
then I was diagnosed with gender
dysphoria. The only way to get
hormone to surgery was to follow
the Harry Benjamin standards of
care. Harry Benjamin is the is
the guy who wrote the book on
this. And this is what it used
to be in the 90s a minimum of 13
hour long visits with a
psychiatrist trained in gender
care. Once that was completed,
the highly coveted Get Out of
Jail Free letter showing that
you were a patient under
professional care, and not some
pervert hanging out in the
ladies room, then a referral to
an endocrinologist for hormones,
then you had to live full time
in your new role as for a
minimum of one year, with
regular visits with your
therapist, after a full year of
full time living, you need to
see a second therapist, both
therapists would give letters of
recommendation for surgery,
which I'm sure they will give
you. At this point, you need to
come up with approximately
$20,000 needed for the surgery
assuming male to female the
other way around is a lot more
expensive. All in all, it took
at least two years from start to
surgery. And of course now it's
you know, one visit with the you
know, given by the school behind
the parents back to teenagers,
John C Dvorak: and sub tab just
pre treated.
Adam Curry: So now this is the
this is the part that's quite
amazing what Dame Jamie writes
to us. What most people don't
realize is that the war on
absolute truth is the oldest war
of all, it's the war on God. If
we can make our own reality,
then we are our own personal
gods. And it's that last part
that brings me to what I've been
meaning to write to you for the
last few months. The blatant
manipulation of a very
vulnerable portion of our
society is reprehensible. My day
my being trans is effectively
tacit approval of what's going
on and I can't allow that. My
masculine side has been pretty
much dominant since COVID.
started and I formally D
transitioned on my 60th birthday
a few months ago. With that I
formally petitioned the peerage
committee that's huge jump for a
title change from Dame Jamie of
the highway to surge Jamie of
the highway. How about that
John C Dvorak: that's that's
easily approved.
Adam Curry: But isn't that
something that is something I
and I commend the future sir
Jamie of the highway.
John C Dvorak: commend the fact
that she'd write to he right who
he now he wrote this letter.
Adam Curry: What courage that
takes. I really appreciate that.
That to me was just mind
blowing.
John C Dvorak: Well, she's he
he's not short of saying
Satanism.
Adam Curry: Well, yes, stop
short of it. But yeah, basically
said that.
John C Dvorak: I will get off
that kick. Immediately.
Adam Curry: No. Well, here's
something that was rather
interesting. You know, there
were cov sisters. What Ciao ciao
ski sisters with
John C Dvorak: kowski. Yeah, the
the matrix. Yeah, the matrix men
turned women. Yes. And it's
really Just a background make
sure everyone knows this started
off at one of the brothers.
Transitioning, pissing off the
other brother. Yep. For about a
year. So I said, Okay, well,
I'll transition to. So they both
became women.
Adam Curry: So Lily talked about
this in a recent interview, I
think this is Khan, probably,
probably a podcast, or that was
in front of an audience. And
now, because of the distinct
difference, what we're
discovering, you know, you have
teenage girls who are going
through middle school, they're
having all kinds of issues, all
kinds of problems, of course,
not helped at all by social
media and apps and the phones,
etc. For boys is very different,
you know, you're unattractive,
you're never gonna get laid,
you're, you know, you're, you're
stupid. By the way, the whole
Western world has told you if
you're white, and you're a male,
and you're says, You're a loser,
there's nothing for you to lose
or nothing. And you know, and if
you don't look like these dudes,
you'll never get a Kardashian.
And it was really interesting to
hear. Miss Wah kowski. Explain
how she came to, to be a woman,
Unknown: to be honest. Like, for
me, the people that I saw the
first images that really struck
a chord with me were, you know,
trans women in pornography. And
there was something that
unlocked in my brain that I saw
these wonderful, fearless
performers becoming these
becoming desirable. And I in my
head, I could take the leap
where I felt like well, man, if
I could be desirable, then maybe
I could be loved. And for me,
that's like, one of the keys
that trans people have to like,
struggle through, you know, will
somebody love me? And so yeah,
that's, that's my answer. Nick
Adams. Excellent answer. Lily
wish asked.
Adam Curry: That is an eye
opener. I believe this is
probably true for a lot of young
men. Hey, you're sitting in your
basement vaping playing video
games, you feel unattractive?
You may be unattractive, you're
being told you're a loser.
You're no good. And then yeah,
by society, and you're watching
porn, and all sudden, like, Oh,
I could be loved. I can be I can
be loved by someone, as you
know. And this is probably
what's going on with me. This.
This hits home, man, I think not
with me. But I think that's,
there's something going on with
that. And then I couldn't
believe CBS even put this on the
air Hello, Surgeon General,
Unknown: social media. It's
entertaining. And some teens
can't get enough. But America's
top doctor is sounding the
alarm.
There is not sufficient evidence
for us to conclude that social
media is in fact sufficiently
safe for our kids.
Up to 95% of 13 to 17 year olds
report using a social media
platform, with more than a third
saying they use social media
almost constantly. The advisor
recited a study that found
adolescents who spent more than
three hours per day on social
media face double the risk of
poor mental health outcomes,
including depression and
anxiety. How urgent is it?
That we've seen an increase in
depression and anxiety and
suicide and loneliness among
young people? There's a full
blown crisis that's taking place
in our country right now.
Adam Curry: Wow. Finally,
finally,
John C Dvorak: why do you think
this is a surprise that CBS
would play this and I'll say
this tick tock is eating into
their lunch too. Yep, you got to
believe advertising dollars go
don't go here. This you got some
money to spend? You can spend it
everywhere. That's right. That's
right. I think I think the
network TV people should have
gotten into this years ago they
could have brought this up it
hasn't changed any but now that
they're losing money it's
embarrassing to watch the TV
these new shows and all the drug
company ads for crazy stuff.
Stuff. Two things that nobody I
mean, how many people are, you
know, have some of these
conditions? Very few.
Adam Curry: And let's add to
this boots on the ground. I
meant to send this email last
week after John first pondered
whether the Tennessee shooter
was on testosterone because it
jarred some memories for me of
my days as a pharma rep. Yes, I
will have to atone for that. The
best thing I can say for myself
is I hated that job and it was
shipped out and worked as a few
hours a week as possible. But I
sold Zoloft for Pfizer who
always accuse me of being a
woohoo girl. I gotta stop doing
that stopped me want to do that
again. Oh, please do please. I
sold Zoloft for Pfizer for 20
years and it was a known fact
that patients had a higher
incidence of suicide attempt and
or success after initiating
treatment. Let me just read that
again. It was a known fact that
patients had a higher incidence
of suicide attempt and or
success. After initiating
treatment with Zoloft that was
spun to us that depressed
patients lack motivation. And
once they're on an SSRI, but
before they reach a Europe
therapeutic dose, they're in a
danger zone for causing harm to
themselves. I wonder if that's
on the little, the little,
little paper that is folded up
1000 times inside?
John C Dvorak: We've talked
about this phenomenon before and
the causation seems to be that
yes, it does. It. It does lessen
depression, but it also puts
into your brain. There's nothing
wrong with killing yourself.
Wow, it eliminates the second
thoughts. You know, because
normally you have even if a
passing thought to you, oh, I'm
gonna kill myself that I'm not
an idiot. I'm not going to kill
myself. That second part of the
equation is missing.
Adam Curry: Right? It wouldn't
be a bad idea. Canada's just
making it more fun.
John C Dvorak: Well, can they
give you a maid?
Adam Curry: They give you a
maid?
John C Dvorak: You get a free
crack pipes.
Adam Curry: Wow, people,
although SSRIs were given FDA
approval for minors in the early
2000s. All medicines are used
off label and tacitly promoted
for off label use. So how many
school shooters are really on
psychotropics? Insinuating? The
Columbine? All of them? Yeah.
All on that
John C Dvorak: one. And we've
okay, this is another no agenda.
They were kind of pushing me. I
don't want to just blow our own
horn. But for the last 15 years,
because there's been these
shootings all along. We have
pointed out that no reporter has
ever asked the simple question
about what is this kid on drugs
except Tucker Carlson. Tucker
Carlson has brought it up. Yeah,
boy, he's out.
Adam Curry: And boy, I mean,
there's nothing worse than
saying we'll see you soon on
Twitter and not showing up on
Twitter. That's bad. That's not
how media promotion works. No
final thing. A lot of people and
I put them all in the show
notes. And again, thank you all
so much for your boots on the
ground redacted, these have been
put under the trans Maoism
heading. A lot of people made
suggestions about pronouns how
to handle them when presented
with them. And I just a
collection of what people sent
me. I think the best way to
handle it is just whether it's
if someone sends you an email,
and it's in the signature, or I
guess if it's from the State
Department in the from line, I
think the proper responses, but
please don't worry about your
pronouns. I definitely won't be
talking to other people about
you. mean that seems to be good.
That seems to be if someone says
hey, this the pronouns No, no,
please don't worry about that. I
will not be talking to other
people about you. That's the way
to go. It's to the polite
John C Dvorak: Ellen a lot. I
mean, Rachel, our producer, one
of our producers suggested that
you just say oh, you know,
pronouns. Me, I feel very
uncomfortable. Like that one
goes right back and everybody.
That makes me so uncomfortable.
Adam Curry: That's a good one.
That makes me I liked it makes
me uncomfortable.
John C Dvorak: Task makes me
uncomfortable. Oh, we can't make
anyone uncomfortable. Yeah. Was
this. But the other was an
insult you
Adam Curry: were talking about?
Is it Portland is important. Or
Seattle? Where? Who's doing the
drugs?
John C Dvorak: Seattle? Well,
they're all doing it, everybody.
But Seattle is the one that's
been that's been specific where
they actually brought it in
front of the city council and
they admitted, yeah, we're not
doing anything about treatment.
We're giving away free
paraphernalia. So we have the
digital we're doing with your
taxpayer money.
Adam Curry: We have the best
producers, the bravest
producers. This is a report from
the perspective of a young
finance, finance director of a
small city in Ohio. I'm
attending a conference in
Portland, Oregon, and the
mentality of the officials here
is astounding. So what would a
finance director is the finance
director basically just takes
care of the money for this small
city is that what the finance
director does?
John C Dvorak: could do a lot of
different things. To see this
CFO like city manager in a way
maybe no city managers or city
manager.
Adam Curry: One seminar on
affordable housing finance, had
the presenters begging by
announcing the pronouns they
use, which I laughed at because
you don't use your own pronouns
and address the homeless issue
with charts and financial
policies for urban development.
Yet we're all perfectly content
in treating the homelessness
symptom, and not acknowledging
the root cause of community
disintegration and the apparent
lack of the hatred of sin loving
of neighbors mentality that's
used to pervade this great land.
So many people will say, well,
that's just all the big cities.
When I bring up the drug and
homeless problem, Portland has a
population of 700,000, I visited
Athens with a population of 4
million. Although there's
graffiti Antifa and plenty of
pot, there aren't dozens of
people literally twitching on
the sidewalks. In another
session, I was asked how I enjoy
my job as director. It's at such
a young age and for a small
town, I responded that I loved
the high trust environment and
opportunity to have a
transformative and positive
impact on the finances and
policies of our residents and
city staff. I was quickly
corrected, that you really
shouldn't use the term
transformative. The term
reformative is more inclusive,
and fosters the idea that your
policy should be reformed to
promote the disadvantage. The
woman works for a water utility
before I could respond with I'm
really not interested in doing
that the next seminar started is
this. He says it is nuts. It's
nuts. And this is this is people
who are running cities.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, well, well,
that's the Maoists thing about
changing the language. So you
can confuse people and you're
not in our group because you use
the wrong word.
Adam Curry: And I want to make
sure that we make sure people
understand when we say trans
Maoism, we're not saying that
China is doing this to us. This
this comes from far this much
deeper. This has been injected.
John C Dvorak: China itself is
beyond. Yeah. This Maoism This
is injected
Adam Curry: into our education
system. Then everyone's captured
everybody's except this one
little podcast, we seem to be
the only one that can that can
keep our head above.
John C Dvorak: Above there.
We're the only ones that don't
have the outrage element. No.
Oh, man.
Adam Curry: So I mean,
John C Dvorak: it's humorous. We
all get a kick out of it.
There's two
Adam Curry: stories. This is my
favorite story. Senators issued
satellite phones, offer
demonstrations and obscure
upgraded security devices. So
now there's story after story
after story. There's going to be
an event. They're giving the
senators satellite phones
because the internet's going
out. Everything's going out.
Well, you're gonna die. It's
happening Memorial Day weekend.
John C Dvorak: So it's happening
this coming Sunday. Yeah. Or
this weekend, Monday would be
Morial day.
Adam Curry: So a lot of people
are 5000 RPM on this. And so I
look into it. And indeed US
Senate arms, Sergeant Karen
Gibson, offered smartphones with
satellite chips to all 100
senators. So first of all, every
single article is showing a you
know, one of those big sat
phones with the other big clunky
thing with a huge antenna. giant
antenna. That's not what this
is. This is a promotion from one
of the Android vendors because
now you know just like the
iPhone 14 You can you can now
get satellite service T Mobile
is starting to offer it Elon
thing is starting to offer it
but here's what I think is
really going on these 100
senators, because it's a
smartphone. It's a full on
smartphone. It's you know, it's
just as functional as the phone
they're using. And it has
sidelight for Oh, in cases a
horrible event, so of course
they're going to use this. Oh,
yes, I got one of the
satellites. Well guess what else
is going to be in that phone?
Tracking? Yes. Tracking
eavesdropping spying. How stupid
are we people? They're going to
spy on your 100 senators
wouldn't surprise me this was
this was actually China a given
me when surprise
John C Dvorak: me if it was
China. It's the
Adam Curry: Qualcomm chip. Now
that does this. And they clearly
say satellite chips. So all
these stories with the big
clunky sat phones like
John C Dvorak: that this thing
has no no ability to hit a
satellite.
Adam Curry: No, unless you're
outside with your left leg up.
And you're right.
John C Dvorak: Oh, you have a
bad big, red. Take out your
antenna and put a new one in.
Adam Curry: Yeah, I don't know
how well they work. But it's
it's first of all, it's a
promotion by one of the Android
companies because I saw her hold
it up in her testimony was not
an iPhone 14. An apple wouldn't
you know, they don't give away
stuff. Not gonna give that away.
They're cheap. They don't want
to get Apple doesn't give stuff
away like that some Android
company and who knows what's in
that phone. This is what kills
me. too. I was all spun up over
that. And then of course, you
know, the 30 tons of explosive
chemicals lost during rail
shipping to California. Ammonium
nitrate 30 tons.
John C Dvorak: A sieve a big
sack of ammonium nitrate in my
old house. I was working as an
air pollution inspector and I
got some I was doing inspecting
of the fertilizer plant in
Richmond that Chevron ran and I
said and they had ammonium
nitrate So you can I get a bag
like 100 pound bag of ammonium
nitrate. And this is what I knew
about and fo bombs and all the
rest of it. I wanted to stuff
because it was it was so
powerful a fertilizer for your
garden. Absolutely. Oh, it's
unbelievable. But what you can
do, there's this giant, there's
a lot of big lawns. If you can
find one of these, like, you can
take the, you know, like a
shaker of ammonium nitrate and
spell out you know, fuck you,
John Alon. And it changes a
color to a britch green and a
gross twice as fast it's
hilarious gag. But anyway,
that's for all you kids out
there that this big sack and use
it for this and that and say One
day the basement flooded in the
thing turned into one giant lump
of ammonium nitrate.
Adam Curry: Oh yeah, if you if
you don't mix it up. We used to
mix it because I lived in a
rural town back in the day.
You'd mix it with some sugar.
John C Dvorak: I think it's just
sugar and water. Oh, yeah. Light
up like a flare?
Adam Curry: Yeah, you could make
flash paper and stuff like that.
John C Dvorak: Oh, there's a lot
you could do it. You'd have a
lot of fun with it. Good stuff.
Adam Curry: So this headline is
from the New York Times 30 tons
of explosive chemicals lost
during rail shipment. So
everyone around you I've seen
the emails you know everyone's
all spun up over it and it's in
California they're gonna blow it
up and blow stuff up and blood
California and and this is the
this is the New York Times
headline but if you look at what
really happened was the car
there was a leak in the railroad
car so it probably drip this
stuff out over hundreds if not
1000s of miles a week the
security seals were still in
place when it arrived in
California just the car was
empty. Yeah, it leaks. But
didn't you put the headline 30
tons of explosive chemicals and
no, it's behind the paywall. So
all you do is just screenshot
that and we're all gonna die.
Here this is subhead the
chemical ammonium nitrate is
relatively harmless by itself
but it's caused deadly
explosions and industrial
accidents has been used in
targeted attacks. Su New York
Times that's clickbait This is a
total clickbait clickbait. I'm
just and people fall for beside
yourself and why why would
people? I mean, they just make
screenshots. Oh, that's what the
John C Dvorak: screenshots are
fun. Yeah, but it's so it's
misleading. It's hurts.
Adam Curry: This is this is why
we're here. We spin you down in
the spun up world.
John C Dvorak: Can I do my
DeSantis report? i And
Adam Curry: I'm excited not only
for you to do your DeSantis
report. I probably have to fun
clips to add to it. But yes, you
go and I'll jump.
John C Dvorak: I'm gonna start
off with the default. Net. Don't
play that. These DeSantis have
an NPR he's running DeSantis
Yes. Addition to short, short
announcement. This is all you
really need to know. Then I'm
going to switch to PBS and
they're slanted anti DeSantis.
Report.
Unknown: Oh, no. Today Florida
Governor Ron DeSantis made
Adam Curry: it a by the way. We
learned something with all this
reporting. His name is Ron
DeSantis. It's not DeSantis is
de Santas.
John C Dvorak: We also learn a
place that he could play
probably a professional baseball
player.
Adam Curry: I didn't know about
that. But the DeSantis thing was
was what struck me
Unknown: today Florida Governor
Ron DeSantis made it official it
makes for the Republican
presidential nomination. Shortly
after filing the paperwork for
his campaign DeSantis went live
on Twitter with a CEO Elon Musk
is that
Adam Curry: subliminal? I'm
sorry. Is that subliminal
DeSantis? Like he's really a
Democrat? I don't think so.
Unknown: The kickoff started
badly. So let's see. I think
we've got people online so its
servers are straining somewhat.
The live chat was filled with
technical glitches. DeSantis is
joining a growing crowd of
Republicans hoping to defeat
former President Trump for the
party's nomination. Two of our
correspondents are here to talk
about what the announcement
means for next year's election
and prs. Kelsey Snell covers
politics and Greg Allen covers
Florida. Good to have you both
here. Hi there. Hello. Kelsey.
The technical malfunctions
eventually got resolved and
DeSantis was able to speak what
did he say?
Yeah, by the time the audio was
working, which took about 20
minutes. DeSantis was in the
midst of a fairly traditional
campaign speech where he argued
his war on woke is the future.
He talked about Florida's
refusal to follow COVID
lockdowns and claim that the
state is passing laws he called
common sense.
Biden's allowed woke ideology to
drive his agenda. We will never
surrender to the woke mob and we
will leave woke ideology in the
dustbin of history. Guys,
Adam Curry: I'm not going to
play my clips until you're fully
Damn I do To make two comments,
one, this was such such a canard
by Twitter. And they and I don't
have audio of it, but they were
they were. You heard? What's his
face Elon Elon and his and his
buddy. They're saying, Boy,
well, you know, you melted the
internet. You broke the
internet. Mr. President, you
broke the internet. No, no, no,
no, it was your crap that broke.
And then the occasion, Jason is
trying to make a wall. 1.7
million people tuned in what's
your compresses? It was at 650k
Plus in five minutes on the Elan
account, which would probably
hit 3 million plus, despite the
tech issues, and not having time
for public questions. Overall.
It was a great start. No, Jason,
you're losing all credibility.
He used to be used to write a
guy used to be a good writer
about tech. Remember this, the
Silicon Valley, Silicon Alley
stuff he would write now? Oh,
back in the New York days is in
the 90s. That's how long I've
known him. And now he just can
you get Elon any deeper in your
throat. Stop it. Jason sucked.
It was an embarrassment. All
right.
John C Dvorak: So we go to PBS
and they are just going to,
here's the introduction. This is
part one. It's just the
introduction then we'll get to
this kind of stuff. It's all
done subtly, too, and I just
really enjoyed breaking down to
little subtleties of the
bullcrap.
Unknown: The race for president
has a new big name candidate,
Florida's governor Ron DeSantis,
officially announced his his
campaign in an anticipated audio
interview with Elon Musk on
Twitter, and on this online
video
in Florida, we prove that it can
be done. We chose facts over
fear, education over
indoctrination, law and order
over rioting and disorder. We
held the line when freedom hung
in the balance. We showed that
we can and must revitalize
America. We need the courage to
lead and the strength to win.
The Republican governor is a
headline generating machine
shaping national fights over
COVID policies, education,
corporate speech and
immigration. But he faces an
uphill climb against his former
ally now turned antagonist
Donald Trump. Lisa, Dr. Dan
reports.
Adam Curry: No Lisa.
John C Dvorak: Okay, so Lisa,
who's the I guess a designated
hitman? This is News gonna come
on.
Adam Curry: We haven't seen her
in a while. She used to be the
hit person against the Hitman
against Trump, wasn't she? Yeah,
John C Dvorak: she's always and
she's good at it she's because
she doesn't you don't notice it?
That's why I chopped this way.
There's so many clips because a
lot of them are just a few
seconds long. Cuz I chopped it
up in one of the stop and
discuss every little things.
Yes, the core here. Now. Trying
I will say this that I like
DeSantis less DeSantis less and
less
Adam Curry: Ditto. And I tell
you why.
John C Dvorak: Key Yes. And I'll
tell you why. I like him less
and less after you tell me what
Adam Curry: I like him less and
less because he is following the
American media model of strife
and outrage against the other
side. So All he says is I'm
gonna be against the world mob
screw those people. That is not
a winning strategy. I just in
fact. Yeah. All right. So
John C Dvorak: I would, right
now's the time I would have said
105% Oh, you're not in fact,
there was Laura Ingram who did a
show on him recently and she
came up with she actually put
together a couple of suit little
clips. I have later a little
super clips about what everyone
thinks about him. And she made
this exact exact same point
you're making, which is that if
he would concentrate on the
economy, inflation, the price of
gasoline and immigration and get
off this woke bull, I'm the anti
woke guy. Bull crap. That would
probably help him because this
is nonsense. Yeah. That's not
what bothers me. Oh, okay. I
just don't like his voice.
Adam Curry: I agree. He has a
Flim Flam voice. He has no
power.
John C Dvorak: Yes. You got it
right. powerless, lacking any
balls voice Wallace baulas voice
and he is kind of screeches and
he's got like a, it's like, you
know, he's Yeah, he's got a it
doesn't have a commanding voice.
He's got a whiny
Adam Curry: voice so
interesting. And also the
haircut is you could definitely
be better. But that's so
interesting. Because, you know,
Frau Ingraham I didn't see that
of course, but the he did a good
job with we know what he did
against the transitioning for
you know, teens and you know,
everything in Florida, that
you'd just be like, Okay, I did
that I got other stuff to do.
Instead, she would say that's
his whole All Campaign it's like
no wait, you can't. You can't
you don't think he's no good.
You can't win by putting in work
and now. Mel's really you can't
win by pitting Americans against
each other it's just dumb.
John C Dvorak: So here we go
with DeSantis to
Unknown: Florida is where wo
goes to die.
He heard cheers early as a
Florida kid making it to the
Little League World Series
Baseball player at Yale as well.
He then went on to Harvard Law
School from there DeSantis chose
the military. As an officer with
the Navy's Judge Advocate
General he worked at the
Guantanamo Bay Prison in Cuba.
When former detainee alleges
DeSantis oversaw beatings and
forced feedings of prisoners,
which he has denied. He also
served in Iraq and was awarded a
Bronze Star in 2012 DeSantis row
the Tea Party wave into
Congress, where he opposed Obama
administration policies that
really stood out. That changed
in 2018. They call him the
Conservatives conservative, then
39 DeSantis made his move
running for governor of the
Sunshine State, initially
trailing in the primary DeSantis
launched an all out blitz for
then President Trump's
endorsement, put in his young
family in the most famous ad of
the year.
Adam Curry: Then Mr. Trump said,
You're fired. I love that part.
Unknown: He won Trump's
endorsement, the primary and
then a razor thin victory in
November to become governor.
All I can promise is the sweat
off my brow, a full heart, my
best judgment and the courage of
my convictions,
Governor DeSantis made a
national name for himself in the
COVID pandemic, quickly ending
stay at home orders and opposing
mask and vaccine mandates. The
state saw a wave of deaths,
Adam Curry: women, why didn't
she add in there that he
narrowly won because they they
shy up to the other guy, the
Democrat with drugs and male
prostitutes.
John C Dvorak: He left that out.
Adam Curry: I should have put
that in that would have been
good. Well, she was
John C Dvorak: already on a roll
with the you know, these
watching us over looking
torture, and he's a creep. And
then at the end, the little
ditty at the end was the one
that just was I had to stop it
DeRose with he a little beat up
against the COVID policies, then
there was a waves of death. Play
that little ending against where
we get a good feeling for what
they're trying to do here.
Unknown: That was pretty good
for himself in the COVID
pandemic, quickly ending stay at
home orders and opposing mask
and vaccine mandates. The state
saw a wave of debt.
Adam Curry: I love the beep,
beep that should have had that
you and I
John C Dvorak: guess what you
would have? I would have done
this course we know what we're
doing debts dynamite. Wave of
debt. So I looked into you know,
we have to remind ourselves that
actually in 2020, Florida was at
the top of the list for having
the least the number of deaths
per capita that whole year,
which was the initial year of
COVID. And it was that they were
number 11 in the country. So
this is bullcrap. This is just
the opposite is grayed out. This
Adam Curry: is good work.
John C Dvorak: Oh, it's
dynamite. But once the vaccines
were introduced, Oh, yeah. And
you have that elderly
population. And the rest of it.
It fell to the other side in the
next year and 2021 they would do
it flipped that they were in one
of the worst states, not the
worst. There were I think there
were like 35 or something like
they were one of the worst. But
they weren't the worst. But
during the initial part where
they were where it made a
difference to to not do this and
not do that and not locked down.
They were really came out
smelling like a rose. It was
when the vaccines were
introduced that that turned
around, and there's a lot of
possible reasons for that, and
including the elderly
population. And
Adam Curry: if I recall
correctly, I think he was also
promoting them. He wasn't
against them in the beginning
DeSantis
John C Dvorak: In fact, they
have a very high I think close
closing an 80% vaccination rate.
I think maybe 60 fully
vaccinated. A lesser number
especially all the deep south
the booster people are very low.
I think it's 29% for Florida. So
anyway, so that's bull crap. So
let's go on with clip three.
Unknown: The state saw a wave of
deaths but a boon to the economy
Adam Curry: a boom but a boon to
the economy.
John C Dvorak: Yes, now I
stopped this one short short
because this is a very subtle
piece of propaganda. They saw
wave a desk but a boon boon to
the economy. This is the classic
socialist Oh data had life means
nothing to you, but the profit
motive. That means everything is
a very subtle little point would
Adam Curry: catalysis and again,
Unknown: the state saw a wave of
deaths but a boon to the
economy.
Adam Curry: Wow, she's had a
hard time reading it, but a boon
to the economy. Wow, this is
evil what I'm saying but okay,
I'll do it.
John C Dvorak: So that's a
little trickery there that,
yeah. Human life means nothing
to these Republicans but money,
money, money. So okay, I just
said that one was so outrageous.
So let's go to now I have two
clip fours. And you can play in
either one. Let's start with the
long one. This is the deaths
clip
Unknown: to use state resources
to fly migrants from the
southern border to places like
Martha's Vineyard. In 2022, he
signed the parental rights and
Education Act, banning talk of
sexual orientation and gender
identity before the fourth
grade. Critics call the law
don't say gay when the Walt
Disney Company, Florida's
largest employer openly oppose
the law. DeSantis launched a new
fight.
This state is governed by the
interests of the people of the
state of Florida. It is not
based on the demands of
California corporate executives,
Disney and DeSantis have
wrestled ever since with the
company recently pulling out of
a billion dollar development in
the state. Okay.
John C Dvorak: All right. So we
got this pulling out of the
development was already Oh crap,
if you don't if you're going to
invest a billion dollars is
because you expect to make 2
billion Yeah, I mean, you don't
pull out because of the spite
the governor. So that's
nonsense. And most of the debt
report had a bunch of kind of
twisted logic, including the
part about Don't, don't say,
Adam Curry: well, at least he
was honest. But critics called
it don't say gay at least. But I
like how they
John C Dvorak: actually did get
their webinar. This next one's a
little sketchier. This is a clip
for CRT,
Unknown: the state saw a wave of
deaths, but a boon to the
economy.
If you are trying to lock people
down, I am standing in your way
and I'm standing for the people
of Florida.
That kind of cultural
confrontation has become his
brand. In 2021, the state's
Department of Education enacted
a ban on teaching critical race
theory in schools, though it had
not been part of state
curriculum.
John C Dvorak: Okay, this is
kind of subtle. Isn't that good?
Hadn't been
Adam Curry: part of the
curriculum, by the way. That's
what that's the that's the pat
answer is, it's not being
taught. It's not being taught.
It's not on the curriculum.
John C Dvorak: It's being
taught. Yes. And if and the
Florida teachers are the ones
that were teaching it, we're
bragging about it. So this is
bullcrap. Onto this is this is
kind of a weird kind of a lie.
Adam Curry: Nothing new. But,
you know,
John C Dvorak: so here's the
last clip six before we play the
mini clips, but his clip six
Unknown: this year he signed a
law banning abortion after six
weeks of pregnancy, and has
questioned the US involvement in
the war in Ukraine. Through it
all his policies became a
blueprint for other Republicans,
but one ally has turned cold.
The problem with Rhonda
sanctimonious is that he needs a
personality transplant. Those
are not yet available.
If the governor who has driven
conversation on the right can
steer his way to the White
House.
Adam Curry: You noticed that
they also on the day that and
this leads me to believe that
it's all one big we would say in
the Netherlands one big wet pot.
Ain't fault. Not they're all in
the same boiling pot together.
They launched yet another
investigation on Trump. It's the
exact time DeSantis announced
DeSantis announces Trump gets
another investigation. This
coordinated, it's coordinated.
It's totally
John C Dvorak: it's yes, very
coordinated. Now let's play this
little mini clips about you know
what the what are MSNBC and joy
Reid read and all these people
are saying about DeSantis
because they have to start
because he they don't want him?
No, no, they don't want any
Republicans if they really don't
want really don't want to.
Adam Curry: They don't want to
which one do I play the miniclub
is
John C Dvorak: just called
DeSantis mini clips.
Unknown: There are a lot of
younger people in that party
that are much
scarier. DeSantis for one this
guy is a fascist. This is coming
straight out of the
authoritarian playbook. This is
what's so disturbing about
DeSantis
DeSantis is almost the
accelerated the racism as the
point in
his quest to run the most right
wing fascist primary campaign
ever. DeSantis is throwing all
the right wing putting at the
wall with
look i He's hard to get Along
with one on one he's pretty
awkward
person when you're seeing these
already going on one with one on
one and he's not a great
campaigner guy who,
by the way is not expanding his
own base of support and is also
not doing anything to help with
the awkwardness because he's
awkward too.
Adam Curry: That's pretty weak.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, they call
him an awkward fascist.
Adam Curry: They wanted to just
call him gay. This, they got
nothing, you know, they don't
have this. They don't.
John C Dvorak: They can't be
wrong. Call him gay.
Adam Curry: Whoopi Goldberg kind
of came close. Can I play this
for a second? We'll be we'll be
John C Dvorak: done with the
details so you can take it over
but I have been watching some of
the view stuff is just so hard
to watch.
Adam Curry: It's not it's not
hard to listen to and it's short
his cat
Unknown: down in Florida. I
mean, why people notice a
problem in Florida. This one I
just wanted to say everybody no
problem. We know but the problem
for me is if you come from
Florida, and you got family down
there saying to people try to
avoid it doesn't work. Yeah,
we've got it we've got to do
something different. I love them
double ACP because I know that
they're they're trying to do the
right thing. But this you know,
there's a lot of black people in
Florida who live there who grew
up there who have been there.
Yeah. So we have to find a
better way to say we got issues.
Adam Curry: I am unaware of
issues with black people in
Florida.
John C Dvorak: And you know, the
kicker. The head of the N double
ACP, who wrote that debt edict
lives in Florida. Here's Anna
Adam Curry: Navarro on the view,
Unknown: the NAACP actually
issued a travel advisory against
going to Florida. The formal
travelled notice states, Florida
is openly hostile toward African
Americans, people of color and
LGBTQ individuals. Before
traveling to Florida, please
understand that the state of
Florida devalues and
marginalizes the contributions
of and the challenges faced by
African Americans.
Adam Curry: So I love I love
with the NAACP has now also
taken over the watch of colored
people. Because that's what
stands for National Advanced
National Association for the
Advancement of Colored People,
which is a racist term by
itself. I thought, now Oh,
LGBTQ. Miami is gay heaven. What
are you talking about? And then
gite take me out to the keys.
But but the point but let's make
sure we make the point gay
heaven, not trans heaven. Yes,
gay. Very solid, gay heaven.
Exactly.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, man. Don
Lemon lives in Florida.
Adam Curry: And what? Whoa,
whoa. I mean, what time is it?
What kind of well, actually,
here's a report from ABC
Unknown: tonight after accusing
Governor Ron DeSantis of a quote
all out attack on black
Americans. Oh, NAACP issuing a
travel advisory for Florida,
Georgia and other civil rights
groups that have warned against
traveling to the top tourist
destination, the NAACP now
accusing the state of Florida of
being openly hostile toward
African Americans, people of
color and LGBTQ plus
individuals.
Adam Curry: The NAACP doesn't
get to warn LGBTQ peoples. This
whole thing this is this is
laughable. The NAACP just put
themselves into the into the
clown world. That is so dumb.
Everybody knows this is dumb.
Like there's no black people in
Florida or black people don't go
to Disney. It's probably good.
Don't indoctrinate your
children.
John C Dvorak: Probably is good.
Adam Curry: Alright, a couple of
fun things here. So besides that
DeSantis is only he's only
against a woke or the woke mob
wokeness goes, dude, that is
that is Yeah, that's a problem.
And you did a great job did
great things in Florida. We did
that in Texas, too. But no one's
walking around. Like I mean
president because I'm gonna go
against the rest of America.
Even Trump is not that stupid.
He does. He just doesn't do
that. Dumb. So, but why is this
because that's all he's got.
That's why he's focused on it.
And he only also panders to the
Bitcoiners. A little bit with
the there'll be no central bank
digital currency. That's not
even for you to say my brother.
That's the central bank who gets
to do that? You don't you don't
have a say over that. But also
he is funded by some of the
biggest hedge fund people on
Wall Street big Wall Street
money. And I also think some of
the big money behind wall I'll
just say it behind a daily wire.
Ben Shapiro's outfit, and one of
our producers did a dynamite job
figuring this out. So So he had
this video which was kind of a
weak version of Trump's behind
the scenes behind the flag
walking on the stage. You saw it
now with with the with the with
the boom, boom, the music behind
him. Yeah, and
John C Dvorak: before we
continue, I want to remind
people that Ben Shapiro is one
of the first and earliest anti
Trump errs. So now
Adam Curry: listen up. 35
seconds only listen to the music
Unknown: in Florida. We've
proved that it can be done. We
chose facts over fear, education
over indoctrination, law and
order over rioting and disorder.
We held the line when freedom
hugging the boundaries, we
showed that we can and must
revitalize America, we need the
courage to lead and the strength
to win. I'm Ron DeSantis. And
I'm running for president to
lead our great American
comeback.
Adam Curry: So you know me, I'm
clearly at least one of our
producers. Is it interesting?
What music are you using? This
turns out to be a track by Davis
with Hain as called the queen of
the violin. And this is it. This
is the track. You can get it on
Spotify. There's a YouTube video
and get it on Amazon. Well,
wouldn't you believe it is the
it's obscure. It's obscure. It's
good, but it's obscure. It's not
a it's not a traditional
classical peace. Well, wouldn't
you believe that it was used in
this as well, the highest
Unknown: ethical spirit to which
we're beholden, is presented as
precisely as that spirit that
aligns itself with the cause of
freedom against tyranny. To get
on this,
but do you want the villains to
learn before they have to pay
the ultimate
Adam Curry: price? It's such a
Christian question. That is
Jordan V. Peterson. Now on the
daily wire, these fuckers
produced a John sorry, I didn't
mean to curse. They produce it.
They produced it. This is a
daily wire even the video now
you look at the video. That's an
John C Dvorak: outstanding
catch. I mean, are produced why
else? We don't even find that
music. Thank you. Unless you
already had it in your library.
You thought it was cool. Yep.
Yep, it is cool. You and you had
the permission to use it. They,
you know, they if there was a
licensing deal was already done
already had
Adam Curry: done. It was already
taken care of Easy, easy to add
to it. Beautiful. Absolutely
beautiful. So here is I think is
a French 24 retelling of the Ron
DeSantis Twitter launch, which I
think also you and I if we were
consulting, we would have said
no, this is why bro. Wouldn't we
have said that? Like don't don't
launch with Elon Musk on
Twitter. What was what was his
point is what was the point? Is
it like, well, Trump did it on
Twitter, so I can do it. Well,
Trump, you know, he did not
announce on Twitter, but he used
Twitter to his advantage. Yeah,
well, you know, he could do
that. But now the way Trump
announced that he came down, he
should have done a big press
John C Dvorak: conference and
done at some place in DC or I
think Miami or someplace like
that wouldn't be audience.
Adam Curry: I think he doesn't
have it in him. I don't think he
can command a big audience. I
don't think he has. He doesn't
have the presence. He doesn't
have the voice coached. No, no.
You
John C Dvorak: know who he you
know, if you want to win here, I
just came to mind. I was just
looking over these clips. Before
I before the show. Whatever
happened to Kellyanne Conway,
she is actually something of a
genius when it comes to
elections. Well, they hate her.
They do they must because they
won't know she should have been
hired. They prize what you know
there was an old make sure you
do what the consultants tell you
well, if it was consoles was
Kellyanne Conway probably do
that but the rest of these
people are idiots
Adam Curry: I have a feeling
that they even went to the
boring guy from from daily wire
and he and they consulted him on
it. This whole thing reeks of
daily wire Libris stuff. You
know what? I like that
John C Dvorak: daily wire limp
wrist stuff.
Adam Curry: I'm not saying that
they're I mean has nothing to do
with a sexuality but it's we
John C Dvorak: know but they're
limp wrist. You're right. Yeah,
yeah, they're light in the
loafers even.
Adam Curry: Let's not take it
too far. Here is a friend's 24
reporting on this botch of a
launch. It
Unknown: was a chaotic start to
a much anticipated presidential
campaign launch it to took about
25 minutes for Ron DeSantis to
finally be able to make his big
announcement after a Twitter
servers got so overwhelmed that
it caused a major technical
issues. But once DeSantis was
finally able to speak he focused
most of his remarks on the
culture wars that have come had
to define most of his time as
governor of Florida promising
his supporters that he would,
quote, never surrendered to the
woke mob. He also took some
swipes at the former President
Donald Trump, though he did not
directly name him, for example,
as saying that we must end the
culture of losing that has
infected the Republican Party in
recent years. And while the goal
of DeSantis and his team was of
course to launch this campaign
in a brand new way that would
bring a lot of publicity D a few
100,000 people who actually
tuned in to listen to the
governor of Florida are really
no match to the audience's that
can be generated by traditional
cable news networks. And that is
why Ron DeSantis followed up his
Twitter launch with an
appearance on the Conservative
News Network of Fox News before
he is said to hold a traditional
campaign or rally which is
expected sometime this weekend
in Florida.
Adam Curry: And of course, he
went on the Democrat run Fox
because they're, they're all in
on it ain't both not. They're
all in on it's all it's all.
This is actually a giant sigh
off. I really and you know, a
lot of people are gonna fall for
it. They will but I think I'm
looking forward to seeing what
he does this weekend in front of
a crowd. I don't think he I
don't think he can do it. I
don't think he can get the
people all riled up. Other than
we'll never let the walk mob
take over. Okay, you're gonna
have a stadium full of people
voting for you, then you need to
do more to be the President of
the United States. And I'm not
saying that Trump is the guy but
man key does have humor and I
loved this is he posted this on
true social, it was a totally AI
generated Twitter spaces. So you
saw the little icons Elon that
he had in there, George Soros
had the FBI the devil Dick
Cheney, who's only coughing his
lungs up during the whole thing.
And and did an AI generated
version of this botched launch
which I have to play the audio
it was really good.
Unknown: Hi everyone. Welcome to
our Ron DeSantis Twittersphere
Hello. Is my microphone working
correctly? George can you just
wait while we know
Soros? Can
John C Dvorak: you hear me?
Unknown: We can all hear you
George can you just hold on for
a second?
Adam Curry: I don't think they
can hear me hear you fine
George. Just speak to George
knows how to use Twitter. Hello,
can you hear me now?
Unknown: Can I please make my
big announcement now everyone
just Hello? George. George
Cheney.
Could you try not to cough
John C Dvorak: Okay, so how are
we going to take out Trump you
Unknown: guys guys from the FBI.
This is not a private call. This
is a public Twitter space
everyone can listen in
Adam Curry: Goddamnit they've
gone away
Unknown: anyway guys, we invited
everyone to this this Twitter
space so Governor Ron DeSantis
Could
everyone just shut the hell up
so I can make my announcement
Okay, you go girl everyone in
this call is gay
guys, can we please just calm
down? Janie
so anyway, guys, I just wanted
to announce that
I can hear the governor very
Shut up already. I'm running for
fucking president. Okay. Yeah,
John C Dvorak: we kind of
already knew about it. No
Governor gratulations governor.
Unknown: Well, that concludes
our Twitter space for today.
Thank you to all of our Hold
your horses Ilan. The real
president is going to say a few
words. The devil
I'm gonna kick your ass very
soon. Hitler. You're already
dead. Dick Cheney. Sounds like
you'll be joining Hitler very
soon. Klaus Schwab and George
Soros. I'm putting both your
asses in jail and run the
sanctimonious can kiss my big
beautiful 2024 presidential last
Trump 2024 baby let's go
Adam Curry: I just have to
commend whoever did that. That's
That's American right there.
That's the kind of humor I love.
That's what we're good at.
John C Dvorak: It's good stuff.
Adam Curry: That's what we do.
John C Dvorak: I wish they had a
Trump better Trump voice but
that was pretty Yeah. All the
voices you think they'd get a
good get
Adam Curry: it's that's why I
said until until you can fool me
with a Trump AI it's no good.
But I would like to thank you
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Adam Curry: you liked the other
Nikko signed the F 16 with the
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I
John C Dvorak: like that. You
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16 it you said it was I don't
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Adam Curry: No, I got it. I just
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What else do we have?
John C Dvorak: Well, there was
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liked and you hated Well, I
didn't
Adam Curry: hate anything. Yeah.
John C Dvorak: Say that to the
to the hand. Oakland by Dame
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Adam Curry: I thought it was
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John C Dvorak: Yeah, that's what
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Adam Curry: Well explain it to
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No,
John C Dvorak: it looks more
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Adam Curry: You know? Yeah.
Also, it was insulting to my
partner. So I would never ever
vote for something insults my
partner based upon his girth,
girth girth in that picture I'm
impatient for sure we're going
to lose this AI trap I mean
we're going to we're going to
lose it we're eventually just
going to beat me we're going to
lose it people are going to slip
by it's going to slip by with AI
stuff but if it is if it's
Photoshop we might as well call
Photoshop AI oh you know what
Microsoft Word it's aI baby. It
does work
John C Dvorak: well it's just
say everything's AI Yeah. We
Yes, like blockchain exactly the
same as blockchain.
Adam Curry: It's blockchain
baby. That's what it is. Oh
goodness. Anyway,
congratulations Nico Simon.
Thank you to all the artists who
put in a lot of work on the fly
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you can view all this and no
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John C Dvorak: That's fine. A
little competitiveness to it.
Oh, it will compete. I'd like
yeah, you do.
Adam Curry: I think it's good.
Yeah, I think it's it's cool.
And of course, of course no
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Well done.
John C Dvorak: Okay, pretend to
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Adam Curry: Congrats, bro. Good.
No,
John C Dvorak: it's not what I
predicted but it's really good
piece
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Anyone in a business or
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John C Dvorak: out and he better
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Adam Curry: we're transparent.
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Unknown: formula is this we go
out but yet people in the mouth
Adam Curry: i i laughed so hard
about two bits of mainstream
media that ministry of
truthiness and I want to play
them both and then there's
plenty more we can do but but
these are just too good. And the
first one is Mariana spring from
the BBC. Who was on the on the
on the Breakfast Show.
Explaining BBC verify. Have you
heard of this the BBC verify No,
I'm
John C Dvorak: sure BBC verify
Adam Curry: is a tea meme that
verifies and goes against the
narrative, all the
misinformation disinformation,
the BBC is now your ministry of
truthiness. And it was just so
funny, we will have to stop the
clip a couple of times, our team
Unknown: of investigative
journalists here at the BBC, we
are also a new brand. And we are
a physical location above the
newsroom in London. And the
point of the team, as you said,
is to verify video to fact check
to counter this information, and
to analyze really complex
stories so we can get to the
truth of what's going on. Why
does this matter? Well,
mysteries can cause really
serious harm to society and to
the people in
Adam Curry: a very serious harm.
And notice how she's above the
newsroom. This is this is great.
She's above the newsroom. And
she's got her big symbolic the
Oh, yeah, she's got her big
touchscreens. And why do we do
this, because misinformation can
cause serious harm. It's
Unknown: not that well,
mysteries can cause really
serious harm to society and to
the people in them. And so we
want to show you our workings
and really help you understand
how we get to the bottom of
what's happening. And I'm gonna
give you a bit of a flavor of
the kind of work that the team
are doing.
Adam Curry: This is work, this
is work to remind you this is
the government, government
outfit. The government runs
Don't worry, the government is
here to give you the truth and
Unknown: to verify. So we're
able to look at maps to geo
locate
Adam Curry: maps, John, they've
got maps, they can go locate
Unknown: specific situations,
stuff that's going on. And this
is just a map of stuff that's
going on to London where we are
now. And this is new
Broadcasting House where I'm
speaking to you from
Adam Curry: the zoomed in on
where they are, they've got maps
that can geo locate themselves.
Unknown: And it's not so
important, perhaps for the
centre of London, but it is when
we're analyzing war zones, or
what's happening in hard to
reach places. And there's a
story on the BBC website. Today,
it's looking at Russian
fortifications, on the
frontlines in Ukraine. And you
can read more about it there.
Adam Curry: I'm so sick of these
maps of where everybody is in
Russia. These maps are bull
crap. If you look at these maps,
and up with Hey, man, Wagner
group is real look, here's where
everything is, I'd say where's
this map from? It's like two
Russian dudes to Russian like
teenagers do this map. It's
garnered from social media and
from on the ground report.
Unknown: And there are other
ways that we also are able to
interrogate what's going on,
including on social media and I
have
John C Dvorak: what's going on?
Yes, yes. English is that
Adam Curry: well, now this is
the cool thing. Listen, how she
interrogates what's going on,
Unknown: interrogate what's
going on, including on social
media. And I have some
undercover accounts that I've
set up for the BBC, cause
podcast, and we use these kinds
of undercover accounts. And so
she basically
Adam Curry: she's showing
John C Dvorak: five does she
just outer shell? Yes, she shows
five
Adam Curry: fake profiles. And
two of them are black people.
And in the comments,
John C Dvorak: she's social
media. blackface should be
banned. She shouldn't be
excoriated,
Adam Curry: well, instead of
that the some of the comments
were, maybe you should think of
hiring actual black people at
the BBC. But okay, you can have
your social media blackface for
Unknown: the BBC is America's
podcast. And we use these kinds
of undercover accounts. And
these are the characters that
the accounts
Adam Curry: Oh, she only use
that for America, though. It's
not for not for Britain, because
we're the racists you see
Unknown: the cover accounts that
I've set up for the BBC,
America's podcast. And we use
these kinds of undercover
accounts. And these are the
characters that the accounts are
belong to. What
Adam Curry: do you think? I know
the pay off, but what do you
think this is really all about?
What do you think it's really
leading towards?
John C Dvorak: Get the jab?
Adam Curry: No, no, that's,
that's yesterday? No, it's
something simply No,
John C Dvorak: no, it should
give more support to Ukraine.
Adam Curry: Well, we already
have that with the maps. No, no,
it's really there's a there's a
there's a crescendo that
culminates into a peak,
Unknown: to be able to really
understand polarization online,
and how what's happening on our
social media feeds and what
we're being recommended and
pushed to us can affect all of
us, and they don't offer us a
totally exhausted insight into
what's going on, but they can
help us understand just how
social media works.
Adam Curry: And how does social
media work? The BBC explain
Unknown: then there's also
investigating other mysteries
and the real world harm they can
cause Oh, other
Adam Curry: mistreats treaties
and other real world real world
harm they can cause
Unknown: and at the moment, I'm
investigating the UK conspiracy
theory movement. I'm trying to
understand more about how it's
evolved and intensified since
the pandemic here in the UK. I'm
looking at the alternative media
that finds itself at the heart
of this movement.
Adam Curry: At the heart of the
movement is alternative media.
Do you think she means podcast
as well? Could we be at the
heart of hope so, at the heart
of the movement
Unknown: here in the UK, I'm
looking at the movement to the
alternative media that find
itself at the heart of this
movement and a conspiracy theory
newspaper, that's a part of that
as well. I'm looking at the way
that alternative media is
funded.
Adam Curry: Is it called the
conspiracy times is I'd like to
know what this conspiracy theory
newspaper is, what possibly
could it be
Unknown: this movement and a
conspiracy theory newspaper?
That's a part of that as well.
I'm looking at the way back.
Adam Curry: Is it the guardian?
I mean, tell us which one lady
Unknown: alternative media is
funded. I'm looking at its
impact on local communities. I'm
looking at its connections with
far right figures, and also its
foreign links. That's for a
podcast series that will be
coming out in June. It's called
Mariana in conspiracy land. And
it will be available on PVC
sounds radio for asking that
question. Could January the
sixth? Oh, a German coup
attempt, like we saw there ever
happened here?
Adam Curry: Could January 6, or
military coup attempt such as we
saw on Jen in Germany ever
happened here? Mariana in
conspiracy land everybody. Could
it get any weirder? BBC. Mariana
in conspiracy land? No, brother.
John C Dvorak: That the name of
the newspaper
Adam Curry: now. That's the name
of her her podcast with the
combination of BBC verify. All
right.
John C Dvorak: We would just
mention that podcast. Let's play
this. This is an NPR house ad.
And there's a podcaster
involved. And I used to hear
these house ads so much, but I
had to play this one I think is
really should be part of what's
wrong with these podcasters.
Unknown: Hey, it's Greg Dixon
from NPR state of Ukraine
Podcast. I'm one of 1000s of NPR
net women,
Adam Curry: his podcast state of
Ukraine baby. It's the state of
Ukraine. What kind of podcast is
that? It's a podcast about the
state of Ukraine. I bet he has
maps. Did you have access to
maps? I believe that
Unknown: hey, it's Greg Dixon
from NPR state
Adam Curry: of Ukraine. By the
way, not just don't start your
promo with Hey, it feels rude.
Hey, it's Greg Dixon
Unknown: from NPR state of
Ukraine podcast. Hey, I'm one of
1000s of NPR network voices
coming to you from over 200
Local newsrooms across the
country. We bring all Americans
closer together through free and
independent journalism, music,
politics, culture, and so much
more. The NPR network what you
hear changes everything. Learn
more at npr.org/network.
Adam Curry: Okay, along with
that podcast, hey, hey, Tuesdays
toe two piece of information
regarding Project Veritas. One.
It seems like the executive
directors out
John C Dvorak: our guy. Yeah,
he's gone to so so much for our
Asian side.
Adam Curry: Yes, he wrote he
resigned. wishes we both find
rather interesting. Yeah, we do.
And at the same time, the O M.
G, the O'Keefe Media Group,
continues to do great work with
crap sound. It's amazing.
O'Keefe, O'Keefe? It look. I
cannot believe that we helped
him when he was at Project
Veritas to get their sound
together. So you could actually
use bits of their audio. So
Keith is at MIT, who is no one's
advising him now. Now. He has
nobody to help him. But he had
it pretty good piece. Because
you know what he's doing now? Is
he just sending microphones to
people and saying, Go honeypot
somebody and it's great. So we
had one of his O'Keeffe Media
Group people's a girl or a young
woman clearly hitting on this
dude Luke Borg Borg again, we're
wagon, who was a staffer for
John Fetterman. And by the way,
this works so well. You know us
hey, I'd like to have lunch with
you and then you just start
asking questions and this guy
you know, he's his blood is
drained from his brain he's just
saying anything that he can get
a get a look at this woman. No,
we don't see her but it doesn't
matter. I know how this works.
So here's here's the TV a
John C Dvorak: lot of guys would
fall for this.
Adam Curry: Yes. Well, that's
how they got the Pfizer guy on a
on a date with a with a guy. You
totally
John C Dvorak: Mueller but not
quite to say
Adam Curry: oh six the same
idea. So, O'Keefe sets us up and
makes us laugh. And then I went
through the trouble of fixing
his audio to listen to the
original which is much better.
Laura
Unknown: Wiggins Special
Assistant to John Fetterman says
that they pick journalists that
will quote say exactly what the
you want them to. He also says
that the journalists are puppets
he actually named the
journalists and okay shooting
John C Dvorak: case but by the
way, yeah, I know why you're
playing this. Yes,
Adam Curry: that's why I stopped
short here. But now I fixed the
audio. I fixed it. So while he
was spending time bleeping out
an expletive. I fixed his audio
so we can listen to The
gloriousness of this dude, who
was thinking he's getting laid
and is probably never going to
work in Washington ever again.
And he names a number of
journalists not just the one
that you know of.
Unknown: They're desperate for
an interview with John. I mean,
like, bad reporters, but like,
do you want to access journalism
news? Report it's like reporters
who will basically tell whatever
story like this thing tech
wants, as long as they get the
interview. Like, there's certain
like Trump, journalists who
refuse to do that. Can
Adam Curry: you hear this? Okay?
Is it is it Yeah, no,
John C Dvorak: keep playing.
It's good. It's good enough.
Unknown: Because like, everybody
wants an interview with the guy
um, ya know, like, as big as
when you're socialists it was
being given areas to it's like,
the ones effect like we'll just
say exactly. Like, so that's why
you pick the journalists that
you say whatever you want us to
know. Pretty much like they want
to play in a bad way. They don't
see that just by Joe
Scarborough, Joe Scarborough,
Scarborough like they're like
Morning Joe is worse than a guy
that you guys didn't hear.
Interviewer Yeah, and he
actually stops like He's former
pod save America like
Adam Curry: he's so far. We've
got Joe Scarborough. Morning
Joe. He sucks but he'll say
whatever we want and then pod
save America
Unknown: cast. Pod save America.
Yeah, this former staffers.
John C Dvorak: I'd like to wait
she she's good at as an amateur.
Yeah. Oh, yeah. She's like Paul
doesn't need much coaching
because she she specifically
stops and pronounces things
slowly. Yep. And enunciates Oh,
you mean pod? save America.
Adam Curry: She's great. She is
I mean, she's a gem for sure.
She must be a looker John. And
she's got the she's got the
vocal fry going on. She got
everything. She's really doing a
good job on this guy.
Unknown: Pod save America like
podcasts. Oh, pod save America.
Yeah, this former Obama staffers
who like they were like one of
the first big political
podcasts. I think they're the
number one political podcast in
the country. Just because you've
had it for like 10 years and
like you don't have friends
before anybody else have
podcasts? Yeah. We did an
interview with post drum like a
month out from the election and
they did really well because you
knew they would go along with
what you wanted. So who are
those journalists hope you guys
like on or fainting. We have an
interview at time. Time Time
Magazine and this is like back
reporter who is also as like
veered into political stuff are
their names Kara Swisher be like
as multiple podcasts that I
listen to like every Kara
Swisher is like one of the best
she has interviewed. So
interesting, but I wonder who
they are because I'll listen to
those people. There's like
compass
Adam Curry: cares Swisher she's
the best she's they're all
puppets
John C Dvorak: Okay, now I was
ignoring the story because you
did this extra work to make it
so it's very, very good job by
the way. So I'm gonna give you a
clip of the day for that.
Adam Curry: Oh, well. This I had
not expected I'm humbled. Thank
you very clear.
John C Dvorak: But yeah, this
woman, whoever she is, is a
natural
Adam Curry: and Kara Swisher
needs to repent. I mean to be
it's one thing if James O'Keefe
calls you out like who cares?
She'll just say James O'Keefe is
a douchebag. But this is an
actual guy who booked you to
interview Fetterman and I
remember her her interview and
her say fentimans Great it's no
pride no problem understanding
me no problem understanding he
was fantastic. It's a great guy.
And she's a total doofus shill
and they know it and they're
using her for access journalism.
This is this if this doesn't
embarrass her, then nothing Wow.
Okay, nothing went better.
Nothing's going to embarrass
her. I just thought that was
beautiful.
John C Dvorak: Hey, you had to
do what you have to do to get
the interviews to
Adam Curry: get it man yeah to
get the interviews you know
because I'm Kara Swisher I have
a podcast. I'm the award winning
pivot podcast in the in the
technology cash
John C Dvorak: award. The fact
that you get an award after
something like this came out is
it kind of says the reason we
have to do awards little
callback there for everyone.
Yes.
Adam Curry: I what I have left
is some climate change stuff and
I have
John C Dvorak: one I want to get
Some some stop news out of
Adam Curry: the way. All right,
top news second half. What are
we got?
John C Dvorak: I want to start
with the default BS. So we just
get that out of the way this
just damn PR report very short.
Unknown: The White House is
delivering a stark warning about
this near consequences of
potential default would have on
the nation. And here's Windsor
Johnston reports talks between
administration and congressional
negotiators picked back up again
today after hitting a snag
yesterday,
White House press secretary
Kareem John Pierre struck an
urgent tone morning that Too
much is at stake for lawmakers
to allow the US to default on
its debt
a default would have
catastrophic impacts in every
single part of this country.
Whether you are in a red state,
or in a blue state,
Republicans are refusing to
accept a deal unless it results
in the government spending less
money than it did in the last
fiscal year. Democrats,
including President Biden argue
that the GOP demand to cut
spending is unreasonable.
Without an agreement, the US
could default on its debt by as
early as June 1.
Adam Curry: Question about this?
I don't know. I didn't hear the
last DHS plug. There's got to be
a name for this type of trade
that you do on this. Because we
all know what the very last
second it's good. It's called
negotiating. No, no. I mean,
there's got to be a trade a put
a call something you can make
that Oh, you made some money you
can make on this. Yes,
everybody's doing it. And I'm
sure but there's it's got to be
called like the debt ceiling
trade or something like this got
me next time. Please do because
you know that people know how
this work. They know it's, it
would I mean, wouldn't it
surprise us if we actually,
quote unquote, defaulted? And
now we have the ball, the
ratings agencies are talking
about downgrading us.
John C Dvorak: That's part of
the scheme. Yes. Why the
playbook is part of the
playbook. Now. I got one clip
here this week. I got to talk
about Ukraine today. But we
should at least talk about the
Ukraine back moot. I do already
count. We've never heard this
before.
Unknown: The head of Russia's
private Wagner military groups
as his force lost more than
20,000 men in the drawn out
battle for the eastern Ukrainian
city of black mood. About half
the number of heavy Russian
convicts recruited to fly in our