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May 25th, 2023 • 3h 7m

1558: Mediatized

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John C Dvorak: I smell Victoria Nuland Adam curry Jhansi Devora
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Adam Curry: may 25 2023 industry award winning nation media
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assassination episode 1558 This is no agenda down in a spin off
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world and broadcasting live from the heart of the Texas no
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country here and FEMA Region number six in the morning,
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everybody. I'm Adam curry being from
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John C Dvorak: Northern Silicon Valley where I'm wondering who's
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Vanderpump what is the rule and why and who cares. I'm John C.
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Dvorak.
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Adam Curry: Buzzkill. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. Have you
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been watching e entertainment again? Have you been? Have you
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been going on on the crazy channels?
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John C Dvorak: As TMZ is one of them? Well, T MCMC spins that
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does spend a half an hour talking about this show. I'd
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never heard of
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Adam Curry: it. Vanderpump Rules of course.
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John C Dvorak: And then they talk about what a genius Andy
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Cohen is because he I guess produces the show.
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Adam Curry: Andy Cohen way he didn't he initially produce real
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housewives. I mean, he's a he's a mogul in this stuff. Yeah, he
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is. He's a mogul. He mogul.
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John C Dvorak: He's the competitor with the other guy
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that you know the survivor guy. Burnett. Yeah. Burnett. There
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you go. I
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Adam Curry: don't know if he's that big. His stuff is. I don't
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know what this is. I guess.
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John C Dvorak: This should get a lot of attention for some
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unknown reason. That's
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Adam Curry: true. It's true. Oh, man, so great week so far. It's
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been fantastic. Except for Tina Turner dying. She was sick for a
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long time. But then really, I had I had
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John C Dvorak: to be pretty spry in her 80s.
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Adam Curry: Well, she she had a serious illness. She had all
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kinds of problems, man, she that was a nice lady. I had a lot of
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fun times with her.
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John C Dvorak: Yeah. Oh.
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Adam Curry: Should I tell you one? Should I tell you a fun
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time? Go for it. Okay. So she came this is when I was in
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Holland. This is how far back a relationship goes. And she came
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to think she was doing a concert. Yeah, I'm pretty sure
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she's doing concert. And and this is that, like 84. Um, so as
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as one does, of course, you're coming to the Netherlands and
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the top Record Retailer has to have attention. Because you
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know, that's how it works. Just the way it used to work. Now the
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number one guy in retail, you gotta you gotta kiss his ass. So
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the record company set up this special lunch for this guy who
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was a real farmer. I mean, this he spoke farmer English. He was
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just he was a real have to, it's hard to explain but in Holland
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people understand when I say it was a real farmer just a real
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like a redneck, basically. And so and they invited me because
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she was going to be on my show to interviewer and it's
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basically it's us in this restaurant eating at a table at
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this guy presenting this huge, ugly, triple platinum piece of
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crap that you know, you can't take back with you. You know,
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it's just one of those horrible music industry things. And he
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starts off by Yes. I'm so happy here to have tiny Turner beats
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us today and in you could just see everyone cringing, but no
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one dared say like, Dude, it's Tina Turner. Tiny Turner has
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says sold so many records here in the lowlands to be lifted
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very, very much. And she was just in I looked at her because
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I was sitting across from her. Like, I'm so sorry about this.
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This is welcome to The Netherlands. And she was so
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proper and this was in her. Think Beyond Thunderdome. Danes
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remember when she came back from England? named Tina Turner talk
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like this. Remember that? She got all thunder Domi. No.
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Anyway, once the chicken arrived I know it sounds racist. But man
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Annie, Annie Mae Bullock when she dove right into the chicken
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where their hands screw the cutlery. And we had a great
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lunch. And many, many laughs ensued over the douchebag.
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Anyway, just one of the many fun moments with Tina Turner
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John C Dvorak: and her them to the trophy. I'm sure it
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Adam Curry: got left behind at the record company. No one wants
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that stuff in their home. It's not a trophy. It's one of those.
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It's like four feet long and has for your wall. Yeah, no, I don't
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know if got it even I don't have the four foot long one up. But
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yeah, I put it in the garage actually
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John C Dvorak: decided knew how to stop the car.
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Adam Curry: New house. I decided not to put any of that in the
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house. It's in the garage, kind of like a Pennzoil sign. That's
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where I got all that stuff. And then I went up to Beck in Dallas
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Tuesday.
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John C Dvorak: Oh, yeah, that go.
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Adam Curry: I think it went really well. And I gotta tell
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you, man, it's tempting. I mean, that out you know, they always
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like hey, you know, you'd be great here. You know the blaze
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would be perfect for you. And he's got like this 1934 Bentley.
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In in literally in the hallway between between studios you know
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this Roadster a beautiful beautiful car and went through
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his museum again everybody looks so happy they got makeup I mean
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what outfit doesn't make up anymore who is a makeup they got
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lighting guys it was makeup I can't believe you got makeup as
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I think you know as you get makeup yes of course because
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they got to make it they got makeup with a makeup lady that
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whole makeup room that's that's abnormal into the evening in big
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television they don't probably don't do that anymore
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John C Dvorak: they don't yeah they don't even do it for the
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local stations here anymore. I don't know Jesus throwback
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Adam Curry: cut the costs exactly just cut the cost. So it
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was good and I was able to get in early and jack up the chair
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when we talked about that how he has this chair
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John C Dvorak: to chair a little pump on the side.
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Adam Curry: Yeah, it was good. Whoa, hold on a second. Let me
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just sit in this let me just let me just make sure I do this
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thing was good. You know,
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John C Dvorak: they didn't call you out on it. No, in fact I
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start off Hey know Jack and update share chump.
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Adam Curry: They were all laughing I told Beck right off
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the bat. Hey, I came in early to jack up the chair. Because I've
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looked like a little boy last time. I thought it was fun. And
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we talked a little bit of trans mouse's and that was cool. Gave
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the NOAA job it was fun to talk about AI. He was all spun up on
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the AI head that Tristan Harris guy had come on his show.
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Remember the algo guy who did the did a little documentary
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about the evil ill ills of algorithms in Silicon Valley.
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He's an ex Google guy. You kind of remember that guy. That guy
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quit. Yeah. And then and so now that guy has moved over from
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algos to AI is going to kill us. Beck was all it is like oh man,
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but it's really bad. We need this pause. Like I like Tristan
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for the algo stuff. But come on. Let's chill out a little bit. So
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I gave him the no agenda spin on that. That was kind of fun. So,
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Daniel, you
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John C Dvorak: brought him down. You got to come off the cliff.
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Adam Curry: I did. I did. And now right on cue 20th century
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fox comes out with probably the yin to the yang of the algo
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fear.
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Unknown: 10 years ago today, the artificial intelligence created
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to protect us detonated a nuclear warhead in Los Angeles
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as long as AI is a threat we will never stop hunting. This is
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a fight for our very existence.
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Adam Curry: All right, everybody, we're all gonna die
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the algos movie coming out called the Creator. Where the
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evil algo has taken over the world and dropped a nuclear
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bomb. We never intended for it to happen.
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John C Dvorak: Yeah, yeah. And of course, we have to recognize
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the fact that this same storyline has been around for
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since the 50s. Maybe even earlier. Yeah, probably the I
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think it was peaked at with The Forbin Project,
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Adam Curry: The Forbin Project. Oh, I don't start
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John C Dvorak: that's everybody that knows this one. Well, we
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don't work in project is where what was a bunch of these AIs?
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And they're doing you know, good work. And then
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Adam Curry: meeting up good work doing customer service.
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John C Dvorak: Yeah. And then they start meeting up in the
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cloud or in the cloud. Oh no. And then they become the
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disjoint they realize that they're being used and abused
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and they become this giant entity that takes over the place
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and and once they and they if you even try to unplug them
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they'll give you a killed the night John your ass
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Adam Curry: 1970s science fiction thriller film from
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Universal Pictures let's see about an advanced American
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defense system named Colossus becoming sentient Ah there you
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go. Oh this this this looks like something I should be watching
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this weekend on the on the on the Amazon to the Netflix it's
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got to be a fluid enjoy it it's
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John C Dvorak: a it's actually a well paced. It's one of those
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70s films that are semi experimental they kind of out
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there Yeah, I think is the best of the bunch.
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Adam Curry: She would do a one big star in it. Probably not no
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I don't think so. Gotta pause positive review from New York
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Times saying it's no Dr. Strangelove. Oh Academy of
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Science Fiction award fantasy and horror films nice. He got a
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Hugo Award whatever that is. The Hugo is the award. Oh that. Oh,
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no, it's a nomination. Oh, yeah. Well, no. Who won? Well, it got
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the Academy of Science Fiction Fantasy horror films golden
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Scroll of merit. Hey, we wish you Got a golden Scroll of merit
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John C Dvorak: giving these awards out? There you go that's
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I said this before I think maybe this will be the year we do the
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no agenda awards.
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Adam Curry: I wonder if we can maybe it maybe no agenda is the
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is like the the academy and we do it under the podcasting 2.0
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banner, so it sounds more inclusive. You know what I mean?
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John C Dvorak: We'll come up with a good, that's that's a
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good idea.
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Adam Curry: Yeah. And then how do we make money on this?
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Exactly.
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John C Dvorak: We make money through publicity.
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Adam Curry: What do you mean publicity? What do you mean,
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everyone's gonna
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John C Dvorak: love us for doing these awards? Because people I
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don't know if you've noticed this, but people in any one
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industry love to give each other awards and they're all happy.
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Adam Curry: Well, this is the problem there's so many awards
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already we have to show that we
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John C Dvorak: there's no definitive podcasting award name
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it
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Adam Curry: well, no, there's not. No, that would be us. But
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But how do we how do we then you're,
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John C Dvorak: you're like the perfect guy for it. That's
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right, because
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Adam Curry: I'm in it. So I could I could make it the I
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could sanction, I'll go on Rogen. I'll say a billion you're
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John C Dvorak: going to sanction you're going to be part of the
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judging committee. You're going to be it you're going to be the
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award guy
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Adam Curry: and we're going to give Rogan an award
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John C Dvorak: we should give him an award he's probably got
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the best interview podcast there is
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Adam Curry: no he's just we'll just give him an award to make
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sure that he promotes the award
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John C Dvorak: oh no that you'll he'll get an award that's what
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you do. Of course he's gonna get an award.
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Adam Curry: Who else do we definitely need to give an award
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John C Dvorak: well back back you know who gives coming around
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is Megan Megyn
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Adam Curry: Kelly that's right top three award winners ladies
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and gentlemen. The no agenda podcasting awards. I think it's
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a winner to win
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John C Dvorak: I know it's a winner. Oh, temper the
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Adam Curry: excitement back to back to we're all going to die
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this happened and this is such an obvious I can't my can of
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course I can believe that the mainstream the M five M doesn't
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understand what this gag was about. This morning.
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Unknown: A new look at the potential impact of AI generated
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images after a fake picture appeared to rattle Wall Street
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a simple AI generated fake image.
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Adam Curry: I love how they say appeared to rattle Wall Street
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that's a good watch is
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Unknown: after a fake picture appeared to rattle Wall Street
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as simple AI generated fake image sparked about a $100
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billion stock market move.
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Yesterday. Numerous Twitter accounts shared this fake image
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showing smoke billowing near a white building, leading some to
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believe an explosion occurred near the Pentagon when in fact
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no such incident took place. While ABC News has not
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determined the source, the image contains the hallmarks of being
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made with artificial intelligence. There are
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three fingers everywhere talk all the time about social media
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platforms. Every story is flattened. You can't tell where
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it comes from or who is producing it. This is the
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perfect case in point
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the image was first posted on Twitter at 8:42am at 1003. A
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Russian state controlled news out oh we did the image to its
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millions of followers. The stock market took a dip over the next
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several minutes until 1009. When authorities made it I think what
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Adam Curry: they're talking about is the fact that RT ran a
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story on this and so that is now categorized as a Russian state
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media outlet instead of just saying RT
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Unknown: Russian state controlled news outlet tweeted
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the image to its millions of followers. The stock market took
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a dip over the next several minutes until 1009. When
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authorities made it clear there was no explosion. Experts have
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warned of hyper realistic fake images deceiving people online
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as the accessibility of AI powered tools grows. This is
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only
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a smallest effect that can only grow. What we're seeing today is
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only a small example of what is to come as this grows in
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complexity
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industry leaders have pointed to AI is ability to solve problems
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quickly and the technology has already contributed to medical
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research. But last week, Sam Altman, the CEO of open AI urged
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lawmakers to act quickly to regulate artificial
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intelligence. My worst
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fears are that we caused significant we the field the
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technology industry caused significant harm to the world.
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Many of the Twitter accounts that spread the hoax carry blue
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checkmarks which previously meant the accounts were verified
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but under new owner Elon Musk, Twitter now gives a blue check
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to any account that pays a monthly fee.
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Adam Curry: This is a great multi layered report that ABC
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brought us we get to slam Elon Musk with his his blue
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checkmarks not being official not being checked, like really
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verified. We get to slam Russia. Somehow we get to hype up the
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the great Sam Altman, the altruistic douchebag de jure
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who, by the way, a chat GPT his outfit is coming to smartphones,
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you know, so they're releasing an app Oh, I'm sure he really
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wants to halt everything. No. But what this is is so obvious.
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And we could have done this. I'm kicking myself. The algorithmic
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not AI but the algorithmic trading. The algorithms on Wall
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Street have been trained to take a look to be watching Twitter
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for positive and negative stories. So of course, someone
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sets a whole bunch of a whole bunch of shorts in place, and,
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and then releases some AI image. And I'm just not that I'm
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wanting once it gets into the right spot, and you get a couple
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buddies to retweet it. And that starts to go viral, and then the
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stock started to start and start to go down. This was a genius
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move. So all ABC didn't catch that part of it. That it's not
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Russia, the states traders, so it's obvious.
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John C Dvorak: Well, it's definitely a way to make a quick
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buck in one day. Yeah,
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Adam Curry: I don't think I don't think they can repeat and
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maybe they can maybe can do it over and over again.
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John C Dvorak: We'll have to see why. We have to do it offshore.
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You're gonna get in trouble if
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Adam Curry: Daniel, hence the RT, RT, RT you get RT?
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John C Dvorak: And I've always felt that if you listen to the
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show anyone listen to the show over the years. I've always felt
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that Putin was a stock market. Stock guy.
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Adam Curry: Sure. Yeah. Well, there you go. NBC didn't,
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wouldn't you be? NBC did a report on this as well. It was
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big news was really huge.
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Unknown: A viral fake picture followed by a real dip in the
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markets Monday,
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the Dow now down about 200 points, the s&p is down about a
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quarter of a percent right now.
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The fabricated photo posted to social media seeming to show a
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fiery explosion near the Pentagon experts say most likely
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made using artificial intelligence
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Adam Curry: about Photoshop, Photoshop could
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John C Dvorak: do this better. Take days you could do the
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Photoshop in just a few minutes, cut and paste and it's just like
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this is the part of the story I don't get.
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Adam Curry: Because it doesn't a blockchain, just new block likes
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new blockchain is caused by block blockchain. Blockchain is
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gonna kill us
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Unknown: say most likely made using artificial intelligence.
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Look closely see how the grass blends into the concrete here.
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Part of that black pole disappears behind this barrier.
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And the fence itself looks off.
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Adam Curry: Can you see the hole there? Yeah, apparently a jet
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went in there. And there should be luggage all over the lawn.
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And why is that lamppost still standing? Where was that
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analysis NBC, all of us,
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Unknown: both within the DOD and I'm sure in the journalism
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journalistic community have to take a look at these things and
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make sure we get the facts before we make assumptions.
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Yeah,
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experts and officials debunks the photo within minutes, but it
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only took seconds to spread fast retweeted by a Russian
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propaganda outlet shared by another account with a million
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plus followers and rocketing its way towards Wall Street.
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Adam Curry: Why don't they identify these entities? What is
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wrong? What is what is wrong with identifying which accounts
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actually did this? This is the baffling part to
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Unknown: me part of the problem. The fake image was retweeted by
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accounts with blue checkmark pudding one pretending to be
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Bloomberg News has been suspended. Blue checks on
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Twitter used to be in the account really?
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John C Dvorak: This is good. I forgot that that's true is part
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of the story. Some bonehead just call himself Bloomberg News.
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Unknown: No checks on Twitter used to mean the account really
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is who it says it is. But not anymore. Experts warn this may
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not be an isolated incident for long.
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I think this is the canary in the coal mine. We are going to
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see more disinformation, more fraud. And we are almost
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certainly going to see this interfering with our elections
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in 2020.
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Companies are rolling out plans to put digital fingerprints on
18:29
pictures. So it's easier to tell what's fake and what's not like
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Adobe today announcing it'll integrate AI into Photoshop.
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Adam Curry: Oh, that'll help that. Do to make it to make it
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easier. But I think the point here is from a government
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standpoint, now we've got all we need rules and regulations
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around this new blockchain. Yeah, you know what this is
18:50
going to lead to online identity laws. That's why they bringing
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the Twitter checkmark. So now whenever you post anything
18:59
anywhere, this will cope with some cockamamie cockamamie law.
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That Whoa, you can't be online without
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John C Dvorak: it. I've been trying to do this for a while
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here.
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Adam Curry: I know but here it is. You go online, you'll have
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to identify digital identity. Yes, this is problem reaction
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solution. Beautiful.
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John C Dvorak: They won't pull it off. They've been trying to
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try it. And this
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Adam Curry: has not worked much saying they'll pull it off. But
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they're going to try but they've been
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John C Dvorak: tricked by and they've been trying for at least
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10 years maybe longer. Probably 20. I'm just
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Adam Curry: Yes, of course. But that's the beauty of it all.
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That's the beauty of it all. We got to we got a lot of boots on
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the ground reports for today's show got a dude named Ben
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anonymous, of course, boots on the ground report about how AI
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is being used in the IT software testing industry. I'm a manager
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for a global software testing company. We recently introduced
19:53
a couple of new testing tools and strategies to pitch to new
19:56
and current clients. A lot of it is your typical run of the mill
19:59
it QA Software Testing nonsense. However, something I stumbled
20:02
onto the other day, they are now selling themselves as the
20:05
world's leading AI powered quality engineering company. So,
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of course, he looks into this machine learning based testing
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recommendation they are selling to their clients. And he says
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the problem is well, and the reason why I'm bringing this to
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you because in the great words of John C Dvorak, it's a scam.
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This grand new tool is just a spreadsheet with a bunch of
20:31
formulas and macros. And he actually sent us the spreadsheet
20:35
so we could have this AI for ourselves. And this is their
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what they're known as an AI
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John C Dvorak: blockchain, a blockchain a testing tool, where
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they combined their AI and blockchain now you're talking
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Adam Curry: I don't know I mean, ever since. SPX and Backman.
20:53
Freud thing is, what's his name? What's up with him? When is he
20:56
going to jail?
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John C Dvorak: He's hanging around the house. stinking up
21:01
the place. He's to go to Jake has showered good.
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Adam Curry: I am sad. Because of all this AI nonsense. My
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favorite pay for search engine is going out of business. Yes,
21:13
it went out of business. Yeah, it's shutting down the end of
21:15
this month. Neva, I'm very sad about that. A lot
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John C Dvorak: of people are irked about it. They've just
21:19
been writing in I already noticed it on the no agenda, a
21:23
social complaint. They said, Well, I took Adams advice. And
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this is what I got. And now
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Adam Curry: that's not quite the message they're sending. I
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thought that was
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John C Dvorak: the message.
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Adam Curry: But what what I what that kind of makes me think is
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yeah, this AI nonsense the idea that you can type in a natural
21:42
language query ie enlish and type a question or fill in your
21:46
native language here and get back and answer is kill is
21:50
killing Google's own search business. No one wants to do
21:53
that anymore. Everybody will want to have this and Neva
21:56
clearly a small company. You know, they tried to do it
21:58
without advertising by asking people to pay $5 a month. They
22:02
couldn't afford it because it's unaffordable. You can't have
22:07
generally gotta say generative now that's what all that's what
22:09
CMBC says. All generative AI, which is more like a good word
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centralized blockchain. Generative AI. It's too
22:21
expensive. Just can't handle the loads. So we'll see how that
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goes.
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John C Dvorak: And then wait for your phone.
22:29
Adam Curry: Oh, don't you It's coming. It's coming. You want to
22:34
do so you want to change topics?
22:36
John C Dvorak: Yeah, I'm going to talk about killing the poor.
22:41
Adam Curry: only happens in Canada.
22:43
John C Dvorak: No, I'm gonna show you I'm gonna prove you
22:45
wrong. Oh, okay. Let's play the Canada clip first. This is from
22:49
I believe a CBC and this is the interview with a poor guy who is
22:53
going to get thrown out in the streets and he just decided to
22:55
hell with it. I'm too old and sick to live on the streets.
23:00
They're gonna kick me out of my place so I'm signing up for the
23:03
maid program ma ID the medically assisted
23:08
Adam Curry: death induced death I think medically medically
23:12
assisted to do Yeah, induced death. Wow. So All right here we
23:17
John C Dvorak: made that I like to where they use that when
23:19
Canada made guy.
23:21
Unknown: Aamir far sued has applied for medically assisted
23:23
dying known as made he lives in constant agony due to a back
23:27
injury but it started the process for end of life because
23:31
his rooming house is up for sale and he can't find anywhere else
23:34
to live that he can afford
23:35
Adam Curry: a second I don't understand something the acronym
23:38
is made and she says medically assisted dying well this is what
23:43
is the i What is the I happen in there just to make a cool
23:46
acronym.
23:48
John C Dvorak: I think so. But it could have been somebody I
23:50
don't know come up with something but yeah, it's a cool
23:52
acronym. Get it
23:54
Unknown: made. Amira far sued has applied for medically
23:57
assisted dying known as made. He lives in constant agony due to a
24:02
back injury but it started the process for end of life because
24:05
his rooming house is up for sale and he can't find anywhere else
24:08
to live that he can afford. He barely survives on Ontario
24:12
Disability Support payments, which are just over $1,200 a
24:16
month. He doesn't want to die. But being homeless is not an
24:20
option. I know in my present health condition I would survive
24:23
it anyway. Far sued meets the criteria for made physical
24:27
suffering due to disability that cannot be relieved. His doctor
24:32
who knows our suits real reason for made is his fear of being
24:35
homeless signed off on the application in August for sued
24:39
needs a second to do the same. There's a 90 day waiting period
24:43
he believes he could potentially access made in about a month.
24:47
Adam Curry: I don't wish to be dead. Even with the pain even
24:51
with the meds. What does he say at the end that I couldn't hear
24:54
it?
24:55
John C Dvorak: He died doe wish to be dead even with the pain
24:58
even with the meds you say I don't wish to He did. No he
25:01
doesn't want to be dead. Well then why is he going to get
25:03
made? Because he doesn't want to be homeless more than he doesn't
25:07
want to be dead.
25:08
Adam Curry: Wow. Well homeless sucks.
25:13
John C Dvorak: Here we go is from one of our local my with
25:17
northwest.com. During the city council committee during this
25:20
week, Seattle City Council woman, Sarah Nelson questioned a
25:25
group of public health workers that the city funds to tackle
25:28
the Fentanyl crisis. What are they being used for but as as
25:34
the fatal overdoses soar to historic highs in Seattle, the
25:37
city and King County are not pushing treatment for addicts.
25:41
Instead, they're using a harm reduction model that seeks to
25:45
make drug use safer by handing out needles, pipes, pipes,
25:50
pipes, and other tools to enable the addict to continue abusing
25:54
drugs and they're now acknowledging treatment is not
25:57
part of their goals. This is a this is part of the an effort by
26:04
the cities to Democrat run cities I had to say to kill off
26:10
their homeless that this is a this is a murder mechanism. No,
26:14
no, no, we're not going to treat you here's a free crack pipe.
26:19
Adam Curry: Well, that's the same in San Francisco the same
26:22
doors been
26:22
John C Dvorak: giving out through your crack pipes, New
26:24
York and places where you can shoot up Yeah, come on in shoot
26:28
out. Oh, yes. Shot up too much. You're dead.
26:30
Adam Curry: Well, you know. I mean, it's, it's cruel, but it's
26:35
probably more effective than anything else they've come up
26:37
with.
26:40
John C Dvorak: I mean, Canadians are using this made thing so
26:42
you're saying
26:43
Adam Curry: why don't they try some fentanyl? Fentanyl seems to
26:46
be fine here. We should make some fentanyl. Fentanyl seems to
26:50
be killing our people just fine.
26:51
John C Dvorak: I mean, and nobody's doing anything. Let's
26:54
let's step back here. Let's just step back. They're not doing
26:59
Jacobite good. Let it come on in fentanyl people. They're letting
27:04
the fentanyl flow in and if it kills a bunch of people that
27:07
kills I don't know what's the number 100,000 More than that
27:10
there's more than a lot more than gun violence dropped you
27:15
know use and it is in bombs and the homeless all dropping dead
27:19
left and right this is just this is one way of dealing with it.
27:23
Adam Curry: And then people who don't get on the fentanyl Hey,
27:26
try this ozempic you'll melt away
27:31
John C Dvorak: you have another booster
27:32
Adam Curry: Did you see that? That would go V which is the the
27:37
ozempic Competitor now or it's anti addictive it'll help you
27:41
with your addiction to drugs. It'll cure your drinking and
27:44
shopping habits even nail biting.
27:47
John C Dvorak: Now I have not seen this one. Oh, it's
27:49
everywhere. I haven't seen it.
27:52
Adam Curry: One in five deaths among young California is tied
27:54
to fentanyl by the way
27:56
John C Dvorak: more than five deaths one in five alcohol.
27:59
Okay, I didn't get that up.
28:01
Adam Curry: Pfizer is also coming out with a weight loss
28:03
drug. But you don't need to or you don't need to inject it.
28:07
It's oral it big story in the in the Atlantic signed into
28:12
scientists actually accidentally invent an anti addiction drug
28:16
people taking ozempic For Weight Loss say they have also stopped
28:19
drinking smoking, shopping and even nail biting.
28:22
John C Dvorak: Even going out to out of the house
28:24
Adam Curry: and Becky Warli. We first heard this from Becky
28:28
Warli. She's the one that said this is a brain a body and a
28:32
brain drug. This is This is bad. And it may be a brain drug.
28:38
Yeah, in the way that it removes your lean body mass ie muscle
28:43
and I don't know brain tissue. Could be I think we're melting
28:47
away people's brains.
28:48
John C Dvorak: I think they're trying to get rid of people
28:50
that's well that
28:51
Adam Curry: ultimately see what how about COVID How about COVID
28:54
vaccine? Yes. To many people, it always comes back to those
28:58
Population Bomb people, doesn't it?
29:01
John C Dvorak: Well with the murders in Seattle that are
29:03
given away addiction products, instead of stopping the
29:07
addiction. These these these governments, and I don't you
29:12
know I'm not a religious type. But these governments are all
29:16
run by atheists who don't give a shit
29:19
Adam Curry: or actually do and want to kill people.
29:25
John C Dvorak: So that could be to you know, what's
29:27
Adam Curry: fascinating
29:27
John C Dvorak: is Satanists are running the San Francisco city
29:30
government in Seattle. About that.
29:33
Adam Curry: I have a clip about
29:36
John C Dvorak: oh, great. Oh, hold
29:37
Adam Curry: on a second. Where it was this satanist I can't
29:44
remember where I had that was it I'll find it eventually. But
29:49
what's interesting, you know, we're one of the two countries
29:53
in the world where where you can now this is Chicago. I'm sorry,
29:56
not San Francisco.
29:59
Unknown: This is Chicago. Those Very Own WGN News Nine. Local
30:04
Group belonging to the Satanic Temple is suing the city of
30:07
Chicago block club Chicago reports members allege City
30:11
Council isn't allowing them to say Hail Satan at council
30:14
meetings. group's leader says dozens of religious groups have
30:17
given invocations in front of city council since they asked to
30:20
give one four and a half years ago. He says that violates their
30:23
First Amendment rights. The Satanic Temple is a federally
30:26
recognized religion with congregations across the
30:28
country. But dynamite There you go.
30:34
Adam Curry: I think they should I think they should be allowed
30:36
to say it so that we can identify them. I think I agree.
30:40
Yeah, do that. So we're one of the two countries in the world
30:45
where you can advertise and market directly to end consumers
30:49
any pharmaceutical products, which of course, is how we get
30:53
all this ozempic crap. You know? I mean, literally, if you if
30:57
you're watching TMZ if you watch it in the evening, you will see
31:02
hamburger hamburger fries, chicken ozempic, hamburger,
31:05
hamburger, fries, depression, hamburger, hamburger, chicken
31:09
ozempic. I mean, it's all it's so obvious what's going on. And
31:14
of course, the news can't report on it. That's why it's so
31:18
brilliant. When you when you watch Australian television as
31:21
an example,
31:22
Unknown: back on his feet after a harrowing ordeal, all I did
31:26
was go and take a vaccine. Now Chris Nimis is fighting for
31:29
justice couldn't walk, I couldn't work. The ones healthy.
31:34
49 year old became wheelchair bound after developing a chronic
31:38
neurological disorder called CIDP. He says the symptoms began
31:43
two weeks after having his first AstraZeneca vaccination in 2021.
31:49
They included headaches, tingling fingers, facial palsy,
31:52
and stolen mobility. I was paralyzed completely from the
31:56
waist down. Mr. Namath is still unwell, and claiming millions of
32:00
dollars in compensation under the federal government's COVID
32:03
19 vaccine claims scheme. He's one of more than 3000 Unlucky
32:08
Australians maintaining COVID vaccines made them ill.
32:13
Adam Curry: They actually they're giving out compensation
32:14
to people, because you can report on that in Australia
32:17
because it doesn't cut into your bottom line.
32:20
John C Dvorak: Right? You can you can't do that here. And and
32:23
I haven't heard, I've heard nothing but people complaining
32:26
on and off and local news reports that they can't get any
32:30
money out of this big fund. They put together
32:33
Adam Curry: our fund. Do you mean? Yeah. Of course not.
32:37
That's not It's not supposed to happen. And now start up Noom
32:42
Noom is adding ozempic and other weight loss injectables to its
32:46
offerings because quote, outcomes are so much better. So
32:50
you don't even know need to go to the doctor. You just get on
32:54
the
32:54
John C Dvorak: I know, you actually can get away with not
32:57
going to the doctor for most things now. But
32:59
Adam Curry: in the UK, where people are clearly trending
33:03
towards obesity because of their incredibly poor diet. That
33:07
really is because of poor availability of good food. But
33:11
also they drink like fish, as well. And there's there's
33:15
evidence that a lot of their obesity comes from drinking.
33:18
They're putting ozempic or something like it on the NHS,
33:23
she can get it for five bucks. pounds. Just ask her just ask
33:29
your professional.
33:32
John C Dvorak: Yeah, yeah, this thing just happened almost
33:35
overnight.
33:37
Adam Curry: And it's been around for quite a while. That's what's
33:39
interesting.
33:41
John C Dvorak: wasn't selling. I mean, the diabetic folks.
33:46
Adam Curry: Exactly. What can we do with this thing? What does it
33:48
do? Well, I know Bob, it melts you muscle in a bit of your
33:52
brain? Let's see if we can get a good test out of it. Hey, FDA,
33:57
come on.
33:58
John C Dvorak: We got marketing people in this country that are
34:00
just the best.
34:02
Adam Curry: Yeah. Yes. Although they're, they're making some
34:09
mistakes with with their marketing of Trans Pride. This
34:16
is this is becoming a problem. Budweiser, Anheuser Busch. I
34:20
mean, now they're talking about it on CNBC. Now they expect
34:24
their revenues to be down 26%
34:28
John C Dvorak: Yeah, what is that in billions? That's a lot
34:31
of money.
34:33
Adam Curry: Of course, you cannot help but notice that
34:39
their stock price is down significantly more than 10% and
34:43
corps Miller their stock prices up so and that
34:46
John C Dvorak: is anybody thought of this possibility.
34:49
Okay, guys that are pushing this ESG and all this crap and they
34:52
want to make these guys, you know, go in this direction.
34:56
They're all investment companies. Yep. Yep. Raw hedge
35:01
funds.
35:01
Adam Curry: I know exactly what you're saying. And I think
35:03
you're right.
35:06
John C Dvorak: That's just bomb these stocks and that target is
35:09
the next target. Well, here it is
35:11
Adam Curry: targets. By the way, you can't get a really good
35:16
report on US media about this for the same reason you don't
35:20
get it about pharma target is a huge advertiser. So everyone's
35:24
very cautious but you go to Australia
35:27
Unknown: targets, the Tarjei have gotten in trouble for tax
35:31
friendly. I'm glad they got in trouble tech friendly swimwear
35:35
for kids, what is tuck friendly swimwear for
35:37
kids, Rita?
35:38
Oh, gosh, I'd rather not just but you know, you can imagine a
35:43
flag in the corner of the thing Oh, displays very prominently of
35:48
all these political messaging on kids clothing, and even things
35:54
like that. I mean, normalizing kids, tucking their genitalia as
36:00
if they're Lea Thomas about to take on the females at a NCAA
36:05
championship.
36:06
Adam Curry: If you look around on the on the socials, I'm not
36:10
on Tik Tok, but I'm sure it's it's big there. Oh, yeah, people
36:14
aren't there. I'm not gonna buy a target anymore. And honestly,
36:18
John C Dvorak: there is a hashtag going around saying
36:21
boycott target. And if you look
36:22
Adam Curry: at target stock price, May 15, it was 160.
36:27
Today, it's 139. And if you look at Yahoo Finance, you know,
36:31
finance, you will see that this LGBTQ controversy is hitting the
36:36
financial news. But the real problem is not just the
36:39
marketing of met Alex Stein, you know, Alex nine, the guy who
36:43
goes to all of the all of the council meetings, and pretends
36:47
to be LTI guy who's the best. So he went into Target, and he put
36:51
on one of these tuck bathing suits. And he came out of the
36:53
dressing room, and he's talking to the staff like, Oh, it's so
36:56
great. Look, you can't you can't even see it. I haven't it was
36:59
completely insane. Guys, so funny. But what, just like with
37:05
Anheuser Busch, it wasn't just, you know, the Mulvaney
37:08
character, it was truly the marketing VP that I think, you
37:13
know, just who clearly didn't set it, you know, our, our
37:17
customers suck is what she basically was saying. And now
37:21
you've got to see as she did, she got basically that's what
37:25
she did. And now the CEO of target. He did an interview on a
37:29
podcast, I might point out, saying, Oh, this is great for
37:34
our brand. Yeah, yeah, we love that so so this is the mistake
37:38
they make and now what's going to happen is you have people who
37:42
do not like this they don't like their kids being literally
37:45
targeted in this way. And you can just count on it that the
37:51
trans community is going to boycott target as well for not
37:54
standing their ground.
37:56
John C Dvorak: Yes, it's it's a classic and it's a beautiful
37:58
maneuver and I'd have to say my thinking as you know, as you
38:02
know exactly what I'm going to say the idea is to slam the
38:05
stock and there will be a trigger Yeah. When do you buy
38:10
back that you buy back if you're going to trade and this is not
38:13
an investment advice at all this is this is an observation I'm
38:17
making because this is too fishy. And this guy looked into
38:21
this this guy who was the head of who the CEO of target you
38:25
should look him up he's on Wikipedia it's got a kind of a
38:27
sketch me he's been here and there and everywhere and but he
38:31
looks like one of those guys that he's like rent rent rent to
38:34
you they're gonna break they bring him in he Oh, yeah, this
38:37
is great. Brian Cornell the stock to thing hits goes below
38:41
100 Who knows how far down it could go. The trigger is they
38:46
fire him then you and that wouldn't be bison
38:50
Adam Curry: you buy let me see Where's he been before? Status
38:54
Quo if way I was a big guy PepsiCo Safeway,
38:57
John C Dvorak: ruined Safeway, Sam's Club before I stay
39:02
Adam Curry: OfficeMax The Home Depot and happened to them. Oh,
39:06
man, this is interesting. Well, next on Deck is the north face.
39:12
You know the North Face clothing.
39:15
John C Dvorak: Yeah, North Face it but is that publicly held?
39:18
Adam Curry: Oh, I don't know. Let's find out. Yahoo
39:27
I don't know. I don't know if they're publicly held. Is it a
39:30
part of some think so?
39:33
John C Dvorak: Yeah, visa was not publicly held.
39:35
Adam Curry: Is it VFC Corp. I think so.
39:40
John C Dvorak: The Lord's face is definitely going
39:42
Adam Curry: going down. Yeah, because they got
39:45
John C Dvorak: the word is in the in the game in the business.
39:48
There's a word for it's called the eating shit. That's what's
39:52
gonna happen. That is
39:53
Adam Curry: the technical term for what's about to handle term.
39:55
Yes. technical term very interesting. When they're owned
39:59
by Who VFC Corp? I think? I'm not sure.
40:04
John C Dvorak: Nor whether it's North NFC NC H North Face
40:07
capital holdings. No, no,
40:09
Adam Curry: that's something else.
40:10
John C Dvorak: That was just a money manager. Yeah.
40:13
Adam Curry: We got a I mean, again, a whole bunch too many to
40:16
even read a lot of boots on the ground reports and this one I
40:22
just have to share from Dame Jamie of the highway. And I put
40:27
Dame Jamie's whole note in there. But I was told I could
40:31
just route around. John out of my thought was time to give a
40:35
boots on the ground report a few things that have been discussed
40:37
on the show a little background about myself, I was assigned
40:39
male at birth, I've been gender dysphoric my entire life. I was
40:42
officially diagnosed in the late 80s. And I formally transitioned
40:45
to female in 2003, at the ripe old age of 40. Which I think you
40:50
and I both think it's fine. You do whatever you want.
40:53
John C Dvorak: Yeah, you're way past the age of consent. Yes.
40:57
Adam Curry: And it was certainly if you're a dame and you've
40:59
donated to the show, we're good with you. You're the best.
41:03
Between the diagnosis and transition, I had an experience
41:05
I want to tell you about during the 90s I was diagnosed with so
41:08
this is Dame Jane telling us the story of then and now. During
41:12
the 90s I was diagnosed with low testosterone, I got a minimal
41:15
dose via injection from the doctor. The next few days were
41:19
living Hell, I'm normally a very calm person. But during that
41:23
time, the smallest thing would send me into a rage. This is
41:26
your roid rage you were talking about this is the danger of
41:30
giving, you know even adolescents these chemicals
41:35
would can send people into a rage. The then the aroma TAS
41:42
kicked in after a few days turning the testosterone in my
41:45
system into estrogen and I was in love with the world again.
41:48
Several months later, I did it again. Same result. If that
41:51
happened to me with my male body, I shudder to think what
41:54
happens with a female body. Back then I was diagnosed with gender
41:58
dysphoria. The only way to get hormone to surgery was to follow
42:01
the Harry Benjamin standards of care. Harry Benjamin is the is
42:05
the guy who wrote the book on this. And this is what it used
42:09
to be in the 90s a minimum of 13 hour long visits with a
42:13
psychiatrist trained in gender care. Once that was completed,
42:17
the highly coveted Get Out of Jail Free letter showing that
42:19
you were a patient under professional care, and not some
42:22
pervert hanging out in the ladies room, then a referral to
42:25
an endocrinologist for hormones, then you had to live full time
42:28
in your new role as for a minimum of one year, with
42:32
regular visits with your therapist, after a full year of
42:35
full time living, you need to see a second therapist, both
42:38
therapists would give letters of recommendation for surgery,
42:41
which I'm sure they will give you. At this point, you need to
42:44
come up with approximately $20,000 needed for the surgery
42:47
assuming male to female the other way around is a lot more
42:50
expensive. All in all, it took at least two years from start to
42:53
surgery. And of course now it's you know, one visit with the you
42:58
know, given by the school behind the parents back to teenagers,
43:05
John C Dvorak: and sub tab just pre treated.
43:08
Adam Curry: So now this is the this is the part that's quite
43:11
amazing what Dame Jamie writes to us. What most people don't
43:14
realize is that the war on absolute truth is the oldest war
43:18
of all, it's the war on God. If we can make our own reality,
43:22
then we are our own personal gods. And it's that last part
43:26
that brings me to what I've been meaning to write to you for the
43:28
last few months. The blatant manipulation of a very
43:32
vulnerable portion of our society is reprehensible. My day
43:37
my being trans is effectively tacit approval of what's going
43:41
on and I can't allow that. My masculine side has been pretty
43:45
much dominant since COVID. started and I formally D
43:48
transitioned on my 60th birthday a few months ago. With that I
43:52
formally petitioned the peerage committee that's huge jump for a
43:56
title change from Dame Jamie of the highway to surge Jamie of
44:00
the highway. How about that
44:04
John C Dvorak: that's that's easily approved.
44:06
Adam Curry: But isn't that something that is something I
44:11
and I commend the future sir Jamie of the highway.
44:15
John C Dvorak: commend the fact that she'd write to he right who
44:18
he now he wrote this letter.
44:21
Adam Curry: What courage that takes. I really appreciate that.
44:25
That to me was just mind blowing.
44:28
John C Dvorak: Well, she's he he's not short of saying
44:33
Satanism.
44:34
Adam Curry: Well, yes, stop short of it. But yeah, basically
44:37
said that.
44:41
John C Dvorak: I will get off that kick. Immediately.
44:44
Adam Curry: No. Well, here's something that was rather
44:47
interesting. You know, there were cov sisters. What Ciao ciao
44:52
ski sisters with
44:53
John C Dvorak: kowski. Yeah, the the matrix. Yeah, the matrix men
44:57
turned women. Yes. And it's really Just a background make
45:01
sure everyone knows this started off at one of the brothers.
45:06
Transitioning, pissing off the other brother. Yep. For about a
45:12
year. So I said, Okay, well, I'll transition to. So they both
45:15
became women.
45:16
Adam Curry: So Lily talked about this in a recent interview, I
45:20
think this is Khan, probably, probably a podcast, or that was
45:25
in front of an audience. And now, because of the distinct
45:30
difference, what we're discovering, you know, you have
45:32
teenage girls who are going through middle school, they're
45:34
having all kinds of issues, all kinds of problems, of course,
45:37
not helped at all by social media and apps and the phones,
45:41
etc. For boys is very different, you know, you're unattractive,
45:47
you're never gonna get laid, you're, you know, you're, you're
45:50
stupid. By the way, the whole Western world has told you if
45:54
you're white, and you're a male, and you're says, You're a loser,
45:59
there's nothing for you to lose or nothing. And you know, and if
46:02
you don't look like these dudes, you'll never get a Kardashian.
46:06
And it was really interesting to hear. Miss Wah kowski. Explain
46:10
how she came to, to be a woman,
46:13
Unknown: to be honest. Like, for me, the people that I saw the
46:18
first images that really struck a chord with me were, you know,
46:21
trans women in pornography. And there was something that
46:27
unlocked in my brain that I saw these wonderful, fearless
46:34
performers becoming these becoming desirable. And I in my
46:43
head, I could take the leap where I felt like well, man, if
46:48
I could be desirable, then maybe I could be loved. And for me,
46:53
that's like, one of the keys that trans people have to like,
46:56
struggle through, you know, will somebody love me? And so yeah,
47:01
that's, that's my answer. Nick Adams. Excellent answer. Lily
47:05
wish asked.
47:07
Adam Curry: That is an eye opener. I believe this is
47:11
probably true for a lot of young men. Hey, you're sitting in your
47:16
basement vaping playing video games, you feel unattractive?
47:19
You may be unattractive, you're being told you're a loser.
47:22
You're no good. And then yeah, by society, and you're watching
47:26
porn, and all sudden, like, Oh, I could be loved. I can be I can
47:30
be loved by someone, as you know. And this is probably
47:33
what's going on with me. This. This hits home, man, I think not
47:37
with me. But I think that's, there's something going on with
47:39
that. And then I couldn't believe CBS even put this on the
47:44
air Hello, Surgeon General,
47:46
Unknown: social media. It's entertaining. And some teens
47:50
can't get enough. But America's top doctor is sounding the
47:54
alarm.
47:55
There is not sufficient evidence for us to conclude that social
47:58
media is in fact sufficiently safe for our kids.
48:02
Up to 95% of 13 to 17 year olds report using a social media
48:06
platform, with more than a third saying they use social media
48:10
almost constantly. The advisor recited a study that found
48:14
adolescents who spent more than three hours per day on social
48:17
media face double the risk of poor mental health outcomes,
48:21
including depression and anxiety. How urgent is it?
48:26
That we've seen an increase in depression and anxiety and
48:30
suicide and loneliness among young people? There's a full
48:34
blown crisis that's taking place in our country right now.
48:37
Adam Curry: Wow. Finally, finally,
48:39
John C Dvorak: why do you think this is a surprise that CBS
48:42
would play this and I'll say this tick tock is eating into
48:46
their lunch too. Yep, you got to believe advertising dollars go
48:51
don't go here. This you got some money to spend? You can spend it
48:54
everywhere. That's right. That's right. I think I think the
48:58
network TV people should have gotten into this years ago they
49:01
could have brought this up it hasn't changed any but now that
49:05
they're losing money it's embarrassing to watch the TV
49:10
these new shows and all the drug company ads for crazy stuff.
49:15
Stuff. Two things that nobody I mean, how many people are, you
49:19
know, have some of these conditions? Very few.
49:22
Adam Curry: And let's add to this boots on the ground. I
49:25
meant to send this email last week after John first pondered
49:28
whether the Tennessee shooter was on testosterone because it
49:30
jarred some memories for me of my days as a pharma rep. Yes, I
49:34
will have to atone for that. The best thing I can say for myself
49:37
is I hated that job and it was shipped out and worked as a few
49:40
hours a week as possible. But I sold Zoloft for Pfizer who
49:46
always accuse me of being a woohoo girl. I gotta stop doing
49:48
that stopped me want to do that again. Oh, please do please. I
49:57
sold Zoloft for Pfizer for 20 years and it was a known fact
50:01
that patients had a higher incidence of suicide attempt and
50:05
or success after initiating treatment. Let me just read that
50:10
again. It was a known fact that patients had a higher incidence
50:15
of suicide attempt and or success. After initiating
50:19
treatment with Zoloft that was spun to us that depressed
50:23
patients lack motivation. And once they're on an SSRI, but
50:28
before they reach a Europe therapeutic dose, they're in a
50:32
danger zone for causing harm to themselves. I wonder if that's
50:36
on the little, the little, little paper that is folded up
50:40
1000 times inside?
50:42
John C Dvorak: We've talked about this phenomenon before and
50:45
the causation seems to be that yes, it does. It. It does lessen
50:52
depression, but it also puts into your brain. There's nothing
50:55
wrong with killing yourself. Wow, it eliminates the second
51:01
thoughts. You know, because normally you have even if a
51:04
passing thought to you, oh, I'm gonna kill myself that I'm not
51:08
an idiot. I'm not going to kill myself. That second part of the
51:11
equation is missing.
51:13
Adam Curry: Right? It wouldn't be a bad idea. Canada's just
51:17
making it more fun.
51:19
John C Dvorak: Well, can they give you a maid?
51:21
Adam Curry: They give you a maid?
51:23
John C Dvorak: You get a free crack pipes.
51:26
Adam Curry: Wow, people, although SSRIs were given FDA
51:29
approval for minors in the early 2000s. All medicines are used
51:34
off label and tacitly promoted for off label use. So how many
51:37
school shooters are really on psychotropics? Insinuating? The
51:41
Columbine? All of them? Yeah. All on that
51:44
John C Dvorak: one. And we've okay, this is another no agenda.
51:47
They were kind of pushing me. I don't want to just blow our own
51:50
horn. But for the last 15 years, because there's been these
51:55
shootings all along. We have pointed out that no reporter has
52:00
ever asked the simple question about what is this kid on drugs
52:04
except Tucker Carlson. Tucker Carlson has brought it up. Yeah,
52:10
boy, he's out.
52:12
Adam Curry: And boy, I mean, there's nothing worse than
52:15
saying we'll see you soon on Twitter and not showing up on
52:18
Twitter. That's bad. That's not how media promotion works. No
52:23
final thing. A lot of people and I put them all in the show
52:26
notes. And again, thank you all so much for your boots on the
52:28
ground redacted, these have been put under the trans Maoism
52:32
heading. A lot of people made suggestions about pronouns how
52:36
to handle them when presented with them. And I just a
52:38
collection of what people sent me. I think the best way to
52:41
handle it is just whether it's if someone sends you an email,
52:45
and it's in the signature, or I guess if it's from the State
52:48
Department in the from line, I think the proper responses, but
52:53
please don't worry about your pronouns. I definitely won't be
52:55
talking to other people about you. mean that seems to be good.
52:59
That seems to be if someone says hey, this the pronouns No, no,
53:03
please don't worry about that. I will not be talking to other
53:05
people about you. That's the way to go. It's to the polite
53:09
John C Dvorak: Ellen a lot. I mean, Rachel, our producer, one
53:11
of our producers suggested that you just say oh, you know,
53:16
pronouns. Me, I feel very uncomfortable. Like that one
53:20
goes right back and everybody. That makes me so uncomfortable.
53:24
Adam Curry: That's a good one. That makes me I liked it makes
53:29
me uncomfortable.
53:30
John C Dvorak: Task makes me uncomfortable. Oh, we can't make
53:33
anyone uncomfortable. Yeah. Was this. But the other was an
53:38
insult you
53:39
Adam Curry: were talking about? Is it Portland is important. Or
53:41
Seattle? Where? Who's doing the drugs?
53:43
John C Dvorak: Seattle? Well, they're all doing it, everybody.
53:45
But Seattle is the one that's been that's been specific where
53:48
they actually brought it in front of the city council and
53:51
they admitted, yeah, we're not doing anything about treatment.
53:53
We're giving away free paraphernalia. So we have the
53:56
digital we're doing with your taxpayer money.
53:58
Adam Curry: We have the best producers, the bravest
54:00
producers. This is a report from the perspective of a young
54:03
finance, finance director of a small city in Ohio. I'm
54:08
attending a conference in Portland, Oregon, and the
54:10
mentality of the officials here is astounding. So what would a
54:14
finance director is the finance director basically just takes
54:17
care of the money for this small city is that what the finance
54:20
director does?
54:21
John C Dvorak: could do a lot of different things. To see this
54:23
CFO like city manager in a way maybe no city managers or city
54:28
manager.
54:29
Adam Curry: One seminar on affordable housing finance, had
54:33
the presenters begging by announcing the pronouns they
54:36
use, which I laughed at because you don't use your own pronouns
54:40
and address the homeless issue with charts and financial
54:43
policies for urban development. Yet we're all perfectly content
54:47
in treating the homelessness symptom, and not acknowledging
54:50
the root cause of community disintegration and the apparent
54:53
lack of the hatred of sin loving of neighbors mentality that's
54:58
used to pervade this great land. So many people will say, well,
55:01
that's just all the big cities. When I bring up the drug and
55:04
homeless problem, Portland has a population of 700,000, I visited
55:07
Athens with a population of 4 million. Although there's
55:09
graffiti Antifa and plenty of pot, there aren't dozens of
55:13
people literally twitching on the sidewalks. In another
55:16
session, I was asked how I enjoy my job as director. It's at such
55:20
a young age and for a small town, I responded that I loved
55:23
the high trust environment and opportunity to have a
55:25
transformative and positive impact on the finances and
55:28
policies of our residents and city staff. I was quickly
55:32
corrected, that you really shouldn't use the term
55:34
transformative. The term reformative is more inclusive,
55:39
and fosters the idea that your policy should be reformed to
55:43
promote the disadvantage. The woman works for a water utility
55:47
before I could respond with I'm really not interested in doing
55:50
that the next seminar started is this. He says it is nuts. It's
55:56
nuts. And this is this is people who are running cities.
56:00
John C Dvorak: Yeah, well, well, that's the Maoists thing about
56:02
changing the language. So you can confuse people and you're
56:06
not in our group because you use the wrong word.
56:09
Adam Curry: And I want to make sure that we make sure people
56:11
understand when we say trans Maoism, we're not saying that
56:13
China is doing this to us. This this comes from far this much
56:18
deeper. This has been injected.
56:21
John C Dvorak: China itself is beyond. Yeah. This Maoism This
56:24
is injected
56:25
Adam Curry: into our education system. Then everyone's captured
56:30
everybody's except this one little podcast, we seem to be
56:33
the only one that can that can keep our head above.
56:39
John C Dvorak: Above there. We're the only ones that don't
56:42
have the outrage element. No. Oh, man.
56:45
Adam Curry: So I mean,
56:47
John C Dvorak: it's humorous. We all get a kick out of it.
56:50
There's two
56:50
Adam Curry: stories. This is my favorite story. Senators issued
56:54
satellite phones, offer demonstrations and obscure
56:58
upgraded security devices. So now there's story after story
57:02
after story. There's going to be an event. They're giving the
57:05
senators satellite phones because the internet's going
57:08
out. Everything's going out. Well, you're gonna die. It's
57:10
happening Memorial Day weekend.
57:14
John C Dvorak: So it's happening this coming Sunday. Yeah. Or
57:18
this weekend, Monday would be Morial day.
57:20
Adam Curry: So a lot of people are 5000 RPM on this. And so I
57:23
look into it. And indeed US Senate arms, Sergeant Karen
57:27
Gibson, offered smartphones with satellite chips to all 100
57:34
senators. So first of all, every single article is showing a you
57:39
know, one of those big sat phones with the other big clunky
57:42
thing with a huge antenna. giant antenna. That's not what this
57:46
is. This is a promotion from one of the Android vendors because
57:52
now you know just like the iPhone 14 You can you can now
57:55
get satellite service T Mobile is starting to offer it Elon
57:59
thing is starting to offer it but here's what I think is
58:02
really going on these 100 senators, because it's a
58:06
smartphone. It's a full on smartphone. It's you know, it's
58:10
just as functional as the phone they're using. And it has
58:13
sidelight for Oh, in cases a horrible event, so of course
58:16
they're going to use this. Oh, yes, I got one of the
58:18
satellites. Well guess what else is going to be in that phone?
58:21
Tracking? Yes. Tracking eavesdropping spying. How stupid
58:27
are we people? They're going to spy on your 100 senators
58:31
wouldn't surprise me this was this was actually China a given
58:34
me when surprise
58:35
John C Dvorak: me if it was China. It's the
58:36
Adam Curry: Qualcomm chip. Now that does this. And they clearly
58:41
say satellite chips. So all these stories with the big
58:45
clunky sat phones like
58:47
John C Dvorak: that this thing has no no ability to hit a
58:50
satellite.
58:51
Adam Curry: No, unless you're outside with your left leg up.
58:54
And you're right.
58:55
John C Dvorak: Oh, you have a bad big, red. Take out your
58:59
antenna and put a new one in.
59:02
Adam Curry: Yeah, I don't know how well they work. But it's
59:04
it's first of all, it's a promotion by one of the Android
59:07
companies because I saw her hold it up in her testimony was not
59:11
an iPhone 14. An apple wouldn't you know, they don't give away
59:15
stuff. Not gonna give that away. They're cheap. They don't want
59:19
to get Apple doesn't give stuff away like that some Android
59:22
company and who knows what's in that phone. This is what kills
59:26
me. too. I was all spun up over that. And then of course, you
59:31
know, the 30 tons of explosive chemicals lost during rail
59:34
shipping to California. Ammonium nitrate 30 tons.
59:42
John C Dvorak: A sieve a big sack of ammonium nitrate in my
59:45
old house. I was working as an air pollution inspector and I
59:50
got some I was doing inspecting of the fertilizer plant in
59:55
Richmond that Chevron ran and I said and they had ammonium
59:59
nitrate So you can I get a bag like 100 pound bag of ammonium
1:00:03
nitrate. And this is what I knew about and fo bombs and all the
1:00:07
rest of it. I wanted to stuff because it was it was so
1:00:10
powerful a fertilizer for your garden. Absolutely. Oh, it's
1:00:13
unbelievable. But what you can do, there's this giant, there's
1:00:17
a lot of big lawns. If you can find one of these, like, you can
1:00:20
take the, you know, like a shaker of ammonium nitrate and
1:00:23
spell out you know, fuck you, John Alon. And it changes a
1:00:29
color to a britch green and a gross twice as fast it's
1:00:33
hilarious gag. But anyway, that's for all you kids out
1:00:36
there that this big sack and use it for this and that and say One
1:00:42
day the basement flooded in the thing turned into one giant lump
1:00:46
of ammonium nitrate.
1:00:48
Adam Curry: Oh yeah, if you if you don't mix it up. We used to
1:00:51
mix it because I lived in a rural town back in the day.
1:00:53
You'd mix it with some sugar.
1:00:55
John C Dvorak: I think it's just sugar and water. Oh, yeah. Light
1:00:58
up like a flare?
1:00:59
Adam Curry: Yeah, you could make flash paper and stuff like that.
1:01:02
John C Dvorak: Oh, there's a lot you could do it. You'd have a
1:01:03
lot of fun with it. Good stuff.
1:01:05
Adam Curry: So this headline is from the New York Times 30 tons
1:01:08
of explosive chemicals lost during rail shipment. So
1:01:12
everyone around you I've seen the emails you know everyone's
1:01:16
all spun up over it and it's in California they're gonna blow it
1:01:19
up and blow stuff up and blood California and and this is the
1:01:23
this is the New York Times headline but if you look at what
1:01:25
really happened was the car there was a leak in the railroad
1:01:29
car so it probably drip this stuff out over hundreds if not
1:01:36
1000s of miles a week the security seals were still in
1:01:40
place when it arrived in California just the car was
1:01:43
empty. Yeah, it leaks. But didn't you put the headline 30
1:01:47
tons of explosive chemicals and no, it's behind the paywall. So
1:01:51
all you do is just screenshot that and we're all gonna die.
1:01:54
Here this is subhead the chemical ammonium nitrate is
1:01:57
relatively harmless by itself but it's caused deadly
1:01:59
explosions and industrial accidents has been used in
1:02:01
targeted attacks. Su New York Times that's clickbait This is a
1:02:08
total clickbait clickbait. I'm just and people fall for beside
1:02:14
yourself and why why would people? I mean, they just make
1:02:18
screenshots. Oh, that's what the
1:02:23
John C Dvorak: screenshots are fun. Yeah, but it's so it's
1:02:27
misleading. It's hurts.
1:02:28
Adam Curry: This is this is why we're here. We spin you down in
1:02:32
the spun up world.
1:02:34
John C Dvorak: Can I do my DeSantis report? i And
1:02:37
Adam Curry: I'm excited not only for you to do your DeSantis
1:02:40
report. I probably have to fun clips to add to it. But yes, you
1:02:45
go and I'll jump.
1:02:47
John C Dvorak: I'm gonna start off with the default. Net. Don't
1:02:51
play that. These DeSantis have an NPR he's running DeSantis
1:02:56
Yes. Addition to short, short announcement. This is all you
1:02:59
really need to know. Then I'm going to switch to PBS and
1:03:02
they're slanted anti DeSantis. Report.
1:03:07
Unknown: Oh, no. Today Florida Governor Ron DeSantis made
1:03:10
Adam Curry: it a by the way. We learned something with all this
1:03:14
reporting. His name is Ron DeSantis. It's not DeSantis is
1:03:20
de Santas.
1:03:22
John C Dvorak: We also learn a place that he could play
1:03:24
probably a professional baseball player.
1:03:26
Adam Curry: I didn't know about that. But the DeSantis thing was
1:03:29
was what struck me
1:03:30
Unknown: today Florida Governor Ron DeSantis made it official it
1:03:33
makes for the Republican presidential nomination. Shortly
1:03:37
after filing the paperwork for his campaign DeSantis went live
1:03:40
on Twitter with a CEO Elon Musk is that
1:03:42
Adam Curry: subliminal? I'm sorry. Is that subliminal
1:03:44
DeSantis? Like he's really a Democrat? I don't think so.
1:03:51
Unknown: The kickoff started badly. So let's see. I think
1:03:58
we've got people online so its servers are straining somewhat.
1:04:05
The live chat was filled with technical glitches. DeSantis is
1:04:09
joining a growing crowd of Republicans hoping to defeat
1:04:11
former President Trump for the party's nomination. Two of our
1:04:14
correspondents are here to talk about what the announcement
1:04:16
means for next year's election and prs. Kelsey Snell covers
1:04:18
politics and Greg Allen covers Florida. Good to have you both
1:04:21
here. Hi there. Hello. Kelsey. The technical malfunctions
1:04:25
eventually got resolved and DeSantis was able to speak what
1:04:28
did he say?
1:04:29
Yeah, by the time the audio was working, which took about 20
1:04:32
minutes. DeSantis was in the midst of a fairly traditional
1:04:35
campaign speech where he argued his war on woke is the future.
1:04:39
He talked about Florida's refusal to follow COVID
1:04:42
lockdowns and claim that the state is passing laws he called
1:04:45
common sense.
1:04:46
Biden's allowed woke ideology to drive his agenda. We will never
1:04:50
surrender to the woke mob and we will leave woke ideology in the
1:04:55
dustbin of history. Guys,
1:04:57
Adam Curry: I'm not going to play my clips until you're fully
1:04:59
Damn I do To make two comments, one, this was such such a canard
1:05:07
by Twitter. And they and I don't have audio of it, but they were
1:05:11
they were. You heard? What's his face Elon Elon and his and his
1:05:16
buddy. They're saying, Boy, well, you know, you melted the
1:05:21
internet. You broke the internet. Mr. President, you
1:05:25
broke the internet. No, no, no, no, it was your crap that broke.
1:05:32
And then the occasion, Jason is trying to make a wall. 1.7
1:05:37
million people tuned in what's your compresses? It was at 650k
1:05:42
Plus in five minutes on the Elan account, which would probably
1:05:45
hit 3 million plus, despite the tech issues, and not having time
1:05:48
for public questions. Overall. It was a great start. No, Jason,
1:05:54
you're losing all credibility. He used to be used to write a
1:05:57
guy used to be a good writer about tech. Remember this, the
1:06:00
Silicon Valley, Silicon Alley stuff he would write now? Oh,
1:06:06
back in the New York days is in the 90s. That's how long I've
1:06:09
known him. And now he just can you get Elon any deeper in your
1:06:12
throat. Stop it. Jason sucked. It was an embarrassment. All
1:06:18
right.
1:06:19
John C Dvorak: So we go to PBS and they are just going to,
1:06:23
here's the introduction. This is part one. It's just the
1:06:25
introduction then we'll get to this kind of stuff. It's all
1:06:28
done subtly, too, and I just really enjoyed breaking down to
1:06:31
little subtleties of the bullcrap.
1:06:33
Unknown: The race for president has a new big name candidate,
1:06:37
Florida's governor Ron DeSantis, officially announced his his
1:06:40
campaign in an anticipated audio interview with Elon Musk on
1:06:44
Twitter, and on this online video
1:06:47
in Florida, we prove that it can be done. We chose facts over
1:06:52
fear, education over indoctrination, law and order
1:06:56
over rioting and disorder. We held the line when freedom hung
1:07:00
in the balance. We showed that we can and must revitalize
1:07:05
America. We need the courage to lead and the strength to win.
1:07:10
The Republican governor is a headline generating machine
1:07:13
shaping national fights over COVID policies, education,
1:07:17
corporate speech and immigration. But he faces an
1:07:20
uphill climb against his former ally now turned antagonist
1:07:25
Donald Trump. Lisa, Dr. Dan reports.
1:07:27
Adam Curry: No Lisa.
1:07:29
John C Dvorak: Okay, so Lisa, who's the I guess a designated
1:07:32
hitman? This is News gonna come on.
1:07:34
Adam Curry: We haven't seen her in a while. She used to be the
1:07:36
hit person against the Hitman against Trump, wasn't she? Yeah,
1:07:40
John C Dvorak: she's always and she's good at it she's because
1:07:42
she doesn't you don't notice it? That's why I chopped this way.
1:07:45
There's so many clips because a lot of them are just a few
1:07:47
seconds long. Cuz I chopped it up in one of the stop and
1:07:50
discuss every little things. Yes, the core here. Now. Trying
1:07:55
I will say this that I like DeSantis less DeSantis less and
1:08:00
less
1:08:01
Adam Curry: Ditto. And I tell you why.
1:08:04
John C Dvorak: Key Yes. And I'll tell you why. I like him less
1:08:07
and less after you tell me what
1:08:09
Adam Curry: I like him less and less because he is following the
1:08:11
American media model of strife and outrage against the other
1:08:17
side. So All he says is I'm gonna be against the world mob
1:08:20
screw those people. That is not a winning strategy. I just in
1:08:24
fact. Yeah. All right. So
1:08:27
John C Dvorak: I would, right now's the time I would have said
1:08:29
105% Oh, you're not in fact, there was Laura Ingram who did a
1:08:38
show on him recently and she came up with she actually put
1:08:42
together a couple of suit little clips. I have later a little
1:08:46
super clips about what everyone thinks about him. And she made
1:08:49
this exact exact same point you're making, which is that if
1:08:53
he would concentrate on the economy, inflation, the price of
1:08:56
gasoline and immigration and get off this woke bull, I'm the anti
1:09:01
woke guy. Bull crap. That would probably help him because this
1:09:06
is nonsense. Yeah. That's not what bothers me. Oh, okay. I
1:09:11
just don't like his voice.
1:09:13
Adam Curry: I agree. He has a Flim Flam voice. He has no
1:09:16
power.
1:09:17
John C Dvorak: Yes. You got it right. powerless, lacking any
1:09:21
balls voice Wallace baulas voice and he is kind of screeches and
1:09:27
he's got like a, it's like, you know, he's Yeah, he's got a it
1:09:30
doesn't have a commanding voice. He's got a whiny
1:09:34
Adam Curry: voice so interesting. And also the
1:09:36
haircut is you could definitely be better. But that's so
1:09:38
interesting. Because, you know, Frau Ingraham I didn't see that
1:09:43
of course, but the he did a good job with we know what he did
1:09:48
against the transitioning for you know, teens and you know,
1:09:53
everything in Florida, that you'd just be like, Okay, I did
1:09:56
that I got other stuff to do. Instead, she would say that's
1:09:59
his whole All Campaign it's like no wait, you can't. You can't
1:10:03
you don't think he's no good. You can't win by putting in work
1:10:08
and now. Mel's really you can't win by pitting Americans against
1:10:12
each other it's just dumb.
1:10:16
John C Dvorak: So here we go with DeSantis to
1:10:19
Unknown: Florida is where wo goes to die.
1:10:24
He heard cheers early as a Florida kid making it to the
1:10:27
Little League World Series Baseball player at Yale as well.
1:10:31
He then went on to Harvard Law School from there DeSantis chose
1:10:35
the military. As an officer with the Navy's Judge Advocate
1:10:38
General he worked at the Guantanamo Bay Prison in Cuba.
1:10:42
When former detainee alleges DeSantis oversaw beatings and
1:10:45
forced feedings of prisoners, which he has denied. He also
1:10:49
served in Iraq and was awarded a Bronze Star in 2012 DeSantis row
1:10:54
the Tea Party wave into Congress, where he opposed Obama
1:10:58
administration policies that really stood out. That changed
1:11:02
in 2018. They call him the Conservatives conservative, then
1:11:06
39 DeSantis made his move running for governor of the
1:11:10
Sunshine State, initially trailing in the primary DeSantis
1:11:13
launched an all out blitz for then President Trump's
1:11:16
endorsement, put in his young family in the most famous ad of
1:11:21
the year.
1:11:21
Adam Curry: Then Mr. Trump said, You're fired. I love that part.
1:11:26
Unknown: He won Trump's endorsement, the primary and
1:11:28
then a razor thin victory in November to become governor.
1:11:32
All I can promise is the sweat off my brow, a full heart, my
1:11:37
best judgment and the courage of my convictions,
1:11:41
Governor DeSantis made a national name for himself in the
1:11:44
COVID pandemic, quickly ending stay at home orders and opposing
1:11:48
mask and vaccine mandates. The state saw a wave of deaths,
1:11:54
Adam Curry: women, why didn't she add in there that he
1:11:56
narrowly won because they they shy up to the other guy, the
1:12:01
Democrat with drugs and male prostitutes.
1:12:05
John C Dvorak: He left that out.
1:12:07
Adam Curry: I should have put that in that would have been
1:12:09
good. Well, she was
1:12:09
John C Dvorak: already on a roll with the you know, these
1:12:12
watching us over looking torture, and he's a creep. And
1:12:16
then at the end, the little ditty at the end was the one
1:12:19
that just was I had to stop it DeRose with he a little beat up
1:12:23
against the COVID policies, then there was a waves of death. Play
1:12:28
that little ending against where we get a good feeling for what
1:12:31
they're trying to do here.
1:12:32
Unknown: That was pretty good for himself in the COVID
1:12:34
pandemic, quickly ending stay at home orders and opposing mask
1:12:38
and vaccine mandates. The state saw a wave of debt.
1:12:46
Adam Curry: I love the beep, beep that should have had that
1:12:51
you and I
1:12:52
John C Dvorak: guess what you would have? I would have done
1:12:54
this course we know what we're doing debts dynamite. Wave of
1:12:59
debt. So I looked into you know, we have to remind ourselves that
1:13:02
actually in 2020, Florida was at the top of the list for having
1:13:07
the least the number of deaths per capita that whole year,
1:13:11
which was the initial year of COVID. And it was that they were
1:13:15
number 11 in the country. So this is bullcrap. This is just
1:13:18
the opposite is grayed out. This
1:13:19
Adam Curry: is good work.
1:13:21
John C Dvorak: Oh, it's dynamite. But once the vaccines
1:13:25
were introduced, Oh, yeah. And you have that elderly
1:13:28
population. And the rest of it. It fell to the other side in the
1:13:33
next year and 2021 they would do it flipped that they were in one
1:13:37
of the worst states, not the worst. There were I think there
1:13:39
were like 35 or something like they were one of the worst. But
1:13:44
they weren't the worst. But during the initial part where
1:13:47
they were where it made a difference to to not do this and
1:13:51
not do that and not locked down. They were really came out
1:13:55
smelling like a rose. It was when the vaccines were
1:13:57
introduced that that turned around, and there's a lot of
1:13:59
possible reasons for that, and including the elderly
1:14:02
population. And
1:14:04
Adam Curry: if I recall correctly, I think he was also
1:14:06
promoting them. He wasn't against them in the beginning
1:14:11
DeSantis
1:14:13
John C Dvorak: In fact, they have a very high I think close
1:14:17
closing an 80% vaccination rate. I think maybe 60 fully
1:14:23
vaccinated. A lesser number especially all the deep south
1:14:27
the booster people are very low. I think it's 29% for Florida. So
1:14:32
anyway, so that's bull crap. So let's go on with clip three.
1:14:36
Unknown: The state saw a wave of deaths but a boon to the economy
1:14:40
Adam Curry: a boom but a boon to the economy.
1:14:43
John C Dvorak: Yes, now I stopped this one short short
1:14:46
because this is a very subtle piece of propaganda. They saw
1:14:51
wave a desk but a boon boon to the economy. This is the classic
1:14:57
socialist Oh data had life means nothing to you, but the profit
1:15:02
motive. That means everything is a very subtle little point would
1:15:07
Adam Curry: catalysis and again,
1:15:08
Unknown: the state saw a wave of deaths but a boon to the
1:15:11
economy.
1:15:12
Adam Curry: Wow, she's had a hard time reading it, but a boon
1:15:14
to the economy. Wow, this is evil what I'm saying but okay,
1:15:17
I'll do it.
1:15:18
John C Dvorak: So that's a little trickery there that,
1:15:21
yeah. Human life means nothing to these Republicans but money,
1:15:26
money, money. So okay, I just said that one was so outrageous.
1:15:31
So let's go to now I have two clip fours. And you can play in
1:15:35
either one. Let's start with the long one. This is the deaths
1:15:39
clip
1:15:40
Unknown: to use state resources to fly migrants from the
1:15:43
southern border to places like Martha's Vineyard. In 2022, he
1:15:47
signed the parental rights and Education Act, banning talk of
1:15:50
sexual orientation and gender identity before the fourth
1:15:53
grade. Critics call the law don't say gay when the Walt
1:16:01
Disney Company, Florida's largest employer openly oppose
1:16:05
the law. DeSantis launched a new fight.
1:16:08
This state is governed by the interests of the people of the
1:16:11
state of Florida. It is not based on the demands of
1:16:15
California corporate executives,
1:16:18
Disney and DeSantis have wrestled ever since with the
1:16:20
company recently pulling out of a billion dollar development in
1:16:24
the state. Okay.
1:16:27
John C Dvorak: All right. So we got this pulling out of the
1:16:29
development was already Oh crap, if you don't if you're going to
1:16:34
invest a billion dollars is because you expect to make 2
1:16:36
billion Yeah, I mean, you don't pull out because of the spite
1:16:40
the governor. So that's nonsense. And most of the debt
1:16:44
report had a bunch of kind of twisted logic, including the
1:16:50
part about Don't, don't say,
1:16:52
Adam Curry: well, at least he was honest. But critics called
1:16:54
it don't say gay at least. But I like how they
1:16:57
John C Dvorak: actually did get their webinar. This next one's a
1:16:59
little sketchier. This is a clip for CRT,
1:17:02
Unknown: the state saw a wave of deaths, but a boon to the
1:17:05
economy.
1:17:06
If you are trying to lock people down, I am standing in your way
1:17:10
and I'm standing for the people of Florida.
1:17:13
That kind of cultural confrontation has become his
1:17:16
brand. In 2021, the state's Department of Education enacted
1:17:20
a ban on teaching critical race theory in schools, though it had
1:17:23
not been part of state curriculum.
1:17:27
John C Dvorak: Okay, this is kind of subtle. Isn't that good?
1:17:31
Hadn't been
1:17:31
Adam Curry: part of the curriculum, by the way. That's
1:17:33
what that's the that's the pat answer is, it's not being
1:17:37
taught. It's not being taught. It's not on the curriculum.
1:17:41
John C Dvorak: It's being taught. Yes. And if and the
1:17:44
Florida teachers are the ones that were teaching it, we're
1:17:47
bragging about it. So this is bullcrap. Onto this is this is
1:17:51
kind of a weird kind of a lie.
1:17:55
Adam Curry: Nothing new. But, you know,
1:18:00
John C Dvorak: so here's the last clip six before we play the
1:18:03
mini clips, but his clip six
1:18:05
Unknown: this year he signed a law banning abortion after six
1:18:08
weeks of pregnancy, and has questioned the US involvement in
1:18:11
the war in Ukraine. Through it all his policies became a
1:18:14
blueprint for other Republicans, but one ally has turned cold.
1:18:19
The problem with Rhonda sanctimonious is that he needs a
1:18:22
personality transplant. Those are not yet available.
1:18:27
If the governor who has driven conversation on the right can
1:18:31
steer his way to the White House.
1:18:36
Adam Curry: You noticed that they also on the day that and
1:18:39
this leads me to believe that it's all one big we would say in
1:18:43
the Netherlands one big wet pot. Ain't fault. Not they're all in
1:18:47
the same boiling pot together. They launched yet another
1:18:51
investigation on Trump. It's the exact time DeSantis announced
1:18:56
DeSantis announces Trump gets another investigation. This
1:19:01
coordinated, it's coordinated. It's totally
1:19:03
John C Dvorak: it's yes, very coordinated. Now let's play this
1:19:06
little mini clips about you know what the what are MSNBC and joy
1:19:13
Reid read and all these people are saying about DeSantis
1:19:17
because they have to start because he they don't want him?
1:19:21
No, no, they don't want any Republicans if they really don't
1:19:25
want really don't want to.
1:19:26
Adam Curry: They don't want to which one do I play the miniclub
1:19:29
is
1:19:29
John C Dvorak: just called DeSantis mini clips.
1:19:31
Unknown: There are a lot of younger people in that party
1:19:33
that are much
1:19:34
scarier. DeSantis for one this guy is a fascist. This is coming
1:19:38
straight out of the authoritarian playbook. This is
1:19:40
what's so disturbing about DeSantis
1:19:43
DeSantis is almost the accelerated the racism as the
1:19:49
point in
1:19:50
his quest to run the most right wing fascist primary campaign
1:19:54
ever. DeSantis is throwing all the right wing putting at the
1:19:57
wall with
1:19:58
look i He's hard to get Along with one on one he's pretty
1:20:02
awkward
1:20:03
person when you're seeing these already going on one with one on
1:20:05
one and he's not a great campaigner guy who,
1:20:07
by the way is not expanding his own base of support and is also
1:20:11
not doing anything to help with the awkwardness because he's
1:20:13
awkward too.
1:20:15
Adam Curry: That's pretty weak.
1:20:18
John C Dvorak: Yeah, they call him an awkward fascist.
1:20:20
Adam Curry: They wanted to just call him gay. This, they got
1:20:23
nothing, you know, they don't have this. They don't.
1:20:27
John C Dvorak: They can't be wrong. Call him gay.
1:20:30
Adam Curry: Whoopi Goldberg kind of came close. Can I play this
1:20:33
for a second? We'll be we'll be
1:20:35
John C Dvorak: done with the details so you can take it over
1:20:37
but I have been watching some of the view stuff is just so hard
1:20:41
to watch.
1:20:42
Adam Curry: It's not it's not hard to listen to and it's short
1:20:45
his cat
1:20:45
Unknown: down in Florida. I mean, why people notice a
1:20:50
problem in Florida. This one I just wanted to say everybody no
1:20:57
problem. We know but the problem for me is if you come from
1:21:02
Florida, and you got family down there saying to people try to
1:21:08
avoid it doesn't work. Yeah, we've got it we've got to do
1:21:12
something different. I love them double ACP because I know that
1:21:15
they're they're trying to do the right thing. But this you know,
1:21:17
there's a lot of black people in Florida who live there who grew
1:21:20
up there who have been there. Yeah. So we have to find a
1:21:24
better way to say we got issues.
1:21:27
Adam Curry: I am unaware of issues with black people in
1:21:30
Florida.
1:21:31
John C Dvorak: And you know, the kicker. The head of the N double
1:21:35
ACP, who wrote that debt edict lives in Florida. Here's Anna
1:21:41
Adam Curry: Navarro on the view,
1:21:42
Unknown: the NAACP actually issued a travel advisory against
1:21:46
going to Florida. The formal travelled notice states, Florida
1:21:50
is openly hostile toward African Americans, people of color and
1:21:54
LGBTQ individuals. Before traveling to Florida, please
1:21:58
understand that the state of Florida devalues and
1:22:01
marginalizes the contributions of and the challenges faced by
1:22:05
African Americans.
1:22:07
Adam Curry: So I love I love with the NAACP has now also
1:22:11
taken over the watch of colored people. Because that's what
1:22:16
stands for National Advanced National Association for the
1:22:21
Advancement of Colored People, which is a racist term by
1:22:26
itself. I thought, now Oh, LGBTQ. Miami is gay heaven. What
1:22:31
are you talking about? And then gite take me out to the keys.
1:22:35
But but the point but let's make sure we make the point gay
1:22:38
heaven, not trans heaven. Yes, gay. Very solid, gay heaven.
1:22:44
Exactly.
1:22:46
John C Dvorak: Yeah, man. Don Lemon lives in Florida.
1:22:49
Adam Curry: And what? Whoa, whoa. I mean, what time is it?
1:22:53
What kind of well, actually, here's a report from ABC
1:22:56
Unknown: tonight after accusing Governor Ron DeSantis of a quote
1:22:59
all out attack on black Americans. Oh, NAACP issuing a
1:23:03
travel advisory for Florida, Georgia and other civil rights
1:23:07
groups that have warned against traveling to the top tourist
1:23:10
destination, the NAACP now accusing the state of Florida of
1:23:15
being openly hostile toward African Americans, people of
1:23:18
color and LGBTQ plus individuals.
1:23:21
Adam Curry: The NAACP doesn't get to warn LGBTQ peoples. This
1:23:28
whole thing this is this is laughable. The NAACP just put
1:23:33
themselves into the into the clown world. That is so dumb.
1:23:38
Everybody knows this is dumb. Like there's no black people in
1:23:41
Florida or black people don't go to Disney. It's probably good.
1:23:45
Don't indoctrinate your children.
1:23:50
John C Dvorak: Probably is good.
1:23:52
Adam Curry: Alright, a couple of fun things here. So besides that
1:23:56
DeSantis is only he's only against a woke or the woke mob
1:24:02
wokeness goes, dude, that is that is Yeah, that's a problem.
1:24:06
And you did a great job did great things in Florida. We did
1:24:08
that in Texas, too. But no one's walking around. Like I mean
1:24:10
president because I'm gonna go against the rest of America.
1:24:13
Even Trump is not that stupid. He does. He just doesn't do
1:24:17
that. Dumb. So, but why is this because that's all he's got.
1:24:23
That's why he's focused on it. And he only also panders to the
1:24:26
Bitcoiners. A little bit with the there'll be no central bank
1:24:29
digital currency. That's not even for you to say my brother.
1:24:32
That's the central bank who gets to do that? You don't you don't
1:24:35
have a say over that. But also he is funded by some of the
1:24:40
biggest hedge fund people on Wall Street big Wall Street
1:24:44
money. And I also think some of the big money behind wall I'll
1:24:48
just say it behind a daily wire. Ben Shapiro's outfit, and one of
1:24:54
our producers did a dynamite job figuring this out. So So he had
1:24:59
this video which was kind of a weak version of Trump's behind
1:25:04
the scenes behind the flag walking on the stage. You saw it
1:25:09
now with with the with the with the boom, boom, the music behind
1:25:14
him. Yeah, and
1:25:15
John C Dvorak: before we continue, I want to remind
1:25:17
people that Ben Shapiro is one of the first and earliest anti
1:25:21
Trump errs. So now
1:25:23
Adam Curry: listen up. 35 seconds only listen to the music
1:25:26
Unknown: in Florida. We've proved that it can be done. We
1:25:30
chose facts over fear, education over indoctrination, law and
1:25:35
order over rioting and disorder. We held the line when freedom
1:25:39
hugging the boundaries, we showed that we can and must
1:25:43
revitalize America, we need the courage to lead and the strength
1:25:48
to win. I'm Ron DeSantis. And I'm running for president to
1:25:52
lead our great American comeback.
1:26:01
Adam Curry: So you know me, I'm clearly at least one of our
1:26:05
producers. Is it interesting? What music are you using? This
1:26:08
turns out to be a track by Davis with Hain as called the queen of
1:26:15
the violin. And this is it. This is the track. You can get it on
1:26:19
Spotify. There's a YouTube video and get it on Amazon. Well,
1:26:23
wouldn't you believe it is the it's obscure. It's obscure. It's
1:26:27
good, but it's obscure. It's not a it's not a traditional
1:26:30
classical peace. Well, wouldn't you believe that it was used in
1:26:34
this as well, the highest
1:26:36
Unknown: ethical spirit to which we're beholden, is presented as
1:26:41
precisely as that spirit that aligns itself with the cause of
1:26:45
freedom against tyranny. To get on this,
1:26:50
but do you want the villains to learn before they have to pay
1:26:53
the ultimate
1:26:53
Adam Curry: price? It's such a Christian question. That is
1:26:57
Jordan V. Peterson. Now on the daily wire, these fuckers
1:27:00
produced a John sorry, I didn't mean to curse. They produce it.
1:27:06
They produced it. This is a daily wire even the video now
1:27:09
you look at the video. That's an
1:27:11
John C Dvorak: outstanding catch. I mean, are produced why
1:27:13
else? We don't even find that music. Thank you. Unless you
1:27:16
already had it in your library. You thought it was cool. Yep.
1:27:20
Yep, it is cool. You and you had the permission to use it. They,
1:27:23
you know, they if there was a licensing deal was already done
1:27:25
already had
1:27:26
Adam Curry: done. It was already taken care of Easy, easy to add
1:27:29
to it. Beautiful. Absolutely beautiful. So here is I think is
1:27:38
a French 24 retelling of the Ron DeSantis Twitter launch, which I
1:27:44
think also you and I if we were consulting, we would have said
1:27:48
no, this is why bro. Wouldn't we have said that? Like don't don't
1:27:53
launch with Elon Musk on Twitter. What was what was his
1:27:56
point is what was the point? Is it like, well, Trump did it on
1:27:59
Twitter, so I can do it. Well, Trump, you know, he did not
1:28:05
announce on Twitter, but he used Twitter to his advantage. Yeah,
1:28:09
well, you know, he could do that. But now the way Trump
1:28:11
announced that he came down, he should have done a big press
1:28:13
John C Dvorak: conference and done at some place in DC or I
1:28:17
think Miami or someplace like that wouldn't be audience.
1:28:20
Adam Curry: I think he doesn't have it in him. I don't think he
1:28:23
can command a big audience. I don't think he has. He doesn't
1:28:27
have the presence. He doesn't have the voice coached. No, no.
1:28:31
You
1:28:31
John C Dvorak: know who he you know, if you want to win here, I
1:28:33
just came to mind. I was just looking over these clips. Before
1:28:37
I before the show. Whatever happened to Kellyanne Conway,
1:28:42
she is actually something of a genius when it comes to
1:28:45
elections. Well, they hate her. They do they must because they
1:28:49
won't know she should have been hired. They prize what you know
1:28:54
there was an old make sure you do what the consultants tell you
1:28:56
well, if it was consoles was Kellyanne Conway probably do
1:29:00
that but the rest of these people are idiots
1:29:01
Adam Curry: I have a feeling that they even went to the
1:29:04
boring guy from from daily wire and he and they consulted him on
1:29:08
it. This whole thing reeks of daily wire Libris stuff. You
1:29:15
know what? I like that
1:29:17
John C Dvorak: daily wire limp wrist stuff.
1:29:20
Adam Curry: I'm not saying that they're I mean has nothing to do
1:29:22
with a sexuality but it's we
1:29:24
John C Dvorak: know but they're limp wrist. You're right. Yeah,
1:29:27
yeah, they're light in the loafers even.
1:29:30
Adam Curry: Let's not take it too far. Here is a friend's 24
1:29:33
reporting on this botch of a launch. It
1:29:35
Unknown: was a chaotic start to a much anticipated presidential
1:29:39
campaign launch it to took about 25 minutes for Ron DeSantis to
1:29:44
finally be able to make his big announcement after a Twitter
1:29:48
servers got so overwhelmed that it caused a major technical
1:29:52
issues. But once DeSantis was finally able to speak he focused
1:29:56
most of his remarks on the culture wars that have come had
1:30:00
to define most of his time as governor of Florida promising
1:30:04
his supporters that he would, quote, never surrendered to the
1:30:08
woke mob. He also took some swipes at the former President
1:30:12
Donald Trump, though he did not directly name him, for example,
1:30:16
as saying that we must end the culture of losing that has
1:30:20
infected the Republican Party in recent years. And while the goal
1:30:26
of DeSantis and his team was of course to launch this campaign
1:30:31
in a brand new way that would bring a lot of publicity D a few
1:30:35
100,000 people who actually tuned in to listen to the
1:30:39
governor of Florida are really no match to the audience's that
1:30:44
can be generated by traditional cable news networks. And that is
1:30:49
why Ron DeSantis followed up his Twitter launch with an
1:30:54
appearance on the Conservative News Network of Fox News before
1:30:58
he is said to hold a traditional campaign or rally which is
1:31:03
expected sometime this weekend in Florida.
1:31:07
Adam Curry: And of course, he went on the Democrat run Fox
1:31:10
because they're, they're all in on it ain't both not. They're
1:31:16
all in on it's all it's all. This is actually a giant sigh
1:31:19
off. I really and you know, a lot of people are gonna fall for
1:31:24
it. They will but I think I'm looking forward to seeing what
1:31:27
he does this weekend in front of a crowd. I don't think he I
1:31:31
don't think he can do it. I don't think he can get the
1:31:33
people all riled up. Other than we'll never let the walk mob
1:31:38
take over. Okay, you're gonna have a stadium full of people
1:31:41
voting for you, then you need to do more to be the President of
1:31:46
the United States. And I'm not saying that Trump is the guy but
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man key does have humor and I loved this is he posted this on
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true social, it was a totally AI generated Twitter spaces. So you
1:32:03
saw the little icons Elon that he had in there, George Soros
1:32:08
had the FBI the devil Dick Cheney, who's only coughing his
1:32:13
lungs up during the whole thing. And and did an AI generated
1:32:18
version of this botched launch which I have to play the audio
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it was really good.
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Unknown: Hi everyone. Welcome to our Ron DeSantis Twittersphere
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Hello. Is my microphone working correctly? George can you just
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wait while we know
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Soros? Can
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John C Dvorak: you hear me?
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Unknown: We can all hear you George can you just hold on for
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a second?
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Adam Curry: I don't think they can hear me hear you fine
1:32:38
George. Just speak to George knows how to use Twitter. Hello,
1:32:42
can you hear me now?
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Unknown: Can I please make my big announcement now everyone
1:32:45
just Hello? George. George Cheney.
1:32:52
Could you try not to cough
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John C Dvorak: Okay, so how are we going to take out Trump you
1:32:57
Unknown: guys guys from the FBI. This is not a private call. This
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is a public Twitter space everyone can listen in
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Adam Curry: Goddamnit they've gone away
1:33:10
Unknown: anyway guys, we invited everyone to this this Twitter
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space so Governor Ron DeSantis Could
1:33:17
everyone just shut the hell up so I can make my announcement
1:33:19
Okay, you go girl everyone in this call is gay
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guys, can we please just calm down? Janie
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so anyway, guys, I just wanted to announce that
1:33:44
I can hear the governor very
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Shut up already. I'm running for fucking president. Okay. Yeah,
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John C Dvorak: we kind of already knew about it. No
1:33:52
Governor gratulations governor.
1:33:57
Unknown: Well, that concludes our Twitter space for today.
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Thank you to all of our Hold your horses Ilan. The real
1:34:01
president is going to say a few words. The devil
1:34:04
I'm gonna kick your ass very soon. Hitler. You're already
1:34:06
dead. Dick Cheney. Sounds like you'll be joining Hitler very
1:34:09
soon. Klaus Schwab and George Soros. I'm putting both your
1:34:12
asses in jail and run the sanctimonious can kiss my big
1:34:16
beautiful 2024 presidential last Trump 2024 baby let's go
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Adam Curry: I just have to commend whoever did that. That's
1:34:26
That's American right there. That's the kind of humor I love.
1:34:30
That's what we're good at.
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John C Dvorak: It's good stuff.
1:34:32
Adam Curry: That's what we do.
1:34:33
John C Dvorak: I wish they had a Trump better Trump voice but
1:34:35
that was pretty Yeah. All the voices you think they'd get a
1:34:38
good get
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Adam Curry: it's that's why I said until until you can fool me
1:34:42
with a Trump AI it's no good. But I would like to thank you
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for your courage in the morning to you the man who put the C in
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Adam Curry: note for those of you checking us out in the fall
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Generator. This was the Wagner graffiti tag on the wall. It was
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a beautiful piece not my first choice. I'll be honest, but I
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just could not go against it. I mean, it was a winner. It was a
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winner. But it was your first choice. I liked the just send
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cash in the the Ukraine shopping and like the goodie bag. Yeah, I
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liked that. There was a lot you thought it was yellow. You
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thought it was shallow? Yes. That's me shallow. What can I
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say? There were some other he was certain that Ned had the Mr.
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Hot dog. The that would be the Wagner guy. The hot dog guy.
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John C Dvorak: obscures a gag but it was funny. Yeah, it was a
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good job as a hot dog
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Adam Curry: you liked the other Nikko signed the F 16 with the
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with the smokestack Because Ron I
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John C Dvorak: like that. You said it was one of the powered F
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16 it you said it was I don't get it.
1:38:31
Adam Curry: No, I got it. I just didn't think it was great. I
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liked it. We both kind of like the war bag by toasts. But it
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was really too simplistic with all the f6 teams in the war bag.
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What else do we have?
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John C Dvorak: Well, there was the Kilroy Was Here here. gags I
1:38:48
liked and you hated Well, I didn't
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Adam Curry: hate anything. Yeah.
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John C Dvorak: Say that to the to the hand. Oakland by Dame
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Kenny ban, showing the Oakland sign floating with a
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Adam Curry: I thought it was what was the ark? I didn't
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understand the octopus.
1:39:08
John C Dvorak: Yeah, that's what you said.
1:39:09
Adam Curry: Well explain it to me. Oh because of Oakland
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octupus Oakland I don't get it I don't get it you get no it's
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okay. Well there you go. You know what happens is that you
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you you retweet the show and you're done you're gone you're
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not you're not a no agenda so soon on Twitter and I have to
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field all the who said ordered what's going on with that? I got
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a no I'm not going to do all that work. See what else. And he
1:39:37
goes Nico Simon was swinging for the fences really hit a lot of
1:39:40
stuff that he put up there. And a comic strip blogger of course
1:39:44
did an AI generated DeVore act a sumo Master is cute. Yeah, yeah.
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No,
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John C Dvorak: it looks more like Dick Cheney.
1:39:52
Adam Curry: You know? Yeah. Also, it was insulting to my
1:39:55
partner. So I would never ever vote for something insults my
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partner based upon his girth, girth girth in that picture I'm
1:40:07
impatient for sure we're going to lose this AI trap I mean
1:40:13
we're going to we're going to lose it we're eventually just
1:40:15
going to beat me we're going to lose it people are going to slip
1:40:18
by it's going to slip by with AI stuff but if it is if it's
1:40:21
Photoshop we might as well call Photoshop AI oh you know what
1:40:25
Microsoft Word it's aI baby. It does work
1:40:29
John C Dvorak: well it's just say everything's AI Yeah. We
1:40:32
Yes, like blockchain exactly the same as blockchain.
1:40:36
Adam Curry: It's blockchain baby. That's what it is. Oh
1:40:39
goodness. Anyway, congratulations Nico Simon.
1:40:42
Thank you to all the artists who put in a lot of work on the fly
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in real time because they and you can view all this and no
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John C Dvorak: That's fine. A little competitiveness to it.
1:41:00
Oh, it will compete. I'd like yeah, you do.
1:41:02
Adam Curry: I think it's good. Yeah, I think it's it's cool.
1:41:06
And of course, of course no agenda social.com is where the
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artists all pretend to like each other. Oh, great. work good.
1:41:13
Well done.
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John C Dvorak: Okay, pretend to like each other. This is true.
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Adam Curry: Congrats, bro. Good. No,
1:41:21
John C Dvorak: it's not what I predicted but it's really good
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piece
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Adam Curry: not what I predicted. Yes, a Hollywood
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total. And we're just like Hollywood to we're choosing it
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based upon the same criteria. Anyone in a business or
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Hollywood would choose only we're honest about it. That's
1:41:42
the difference. And we're on straightened
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John C Dvorak: out and he better be transparent. Oh,
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Adam Curry: we're transparent. Yes, indeed. All right. Now we
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are very happy to thank our executive and Associate
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Executive producers who came in I'd say made up for for our last
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John C Dvorak: hard water there. That's interesting. Well, we
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John C Dvorak: Yeah, it is but you have once in a while you do.
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Adam Curry: So what is Memorial Day for what are we
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John C Dvorak: He also got booted. Well, whatever
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Adam Curry: he says is different. But now they're
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get a lot more information than on cable was what? I'm gonna
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John C Dvorak: should definitely call her out on that if you
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Adam Curry: I wrote it down in my little Meghan prep file. I
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Adam Curry: Wow, I wonder what I wonder what?
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John C Dvorak: Oh is no backstory. But it must be
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Adam Curry: We'll take 333 dot 33 Oh, this is out of order.
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Interesting. This is Sir Dr. Jeff, who says in the morning
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Adam and John on May 13 is in 333 dot three. SP I said to ya.
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Okay, by the PayPal link on the website. I suspect that this was
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the old link that you all mentioned in a recent episode.
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Is that true? Did that show up in the old Link must have could
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be May 14 was my birthday and I wanted to return value to y'all
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on my birthday. John, could you please check the other account?
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He will? It was link off the divorce.org website. Okay,
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that's all being changed. Are you talking to our guy? Oh yeah,
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John C Dvorak: had a long chat. I'm so happy we're on it. We're
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Adam Curry: Especially you I'd like a little karma for
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Adam Curry: Cory What is his birthday? No second I'm sorry.
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It's not Cory. It's Brian Carter. Brian
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do remember this that I remember I don't think there's a
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John C Dvorak: I've ever heard at one
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Maybe she's gonna do a different show. But she's wishing Happy
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Bernie Sanders and AOC were encouraging us to all us to get
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Unknown: formula is this we go out but yet people in the mouth
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Adam Curry: i i laughed so hard about two bits of mainstream
2:04:31
media that ministry of truthiness and I want to play
2:04:36
them both and then there's plenty more we can do but but
2:04:40
these are just too good. And the first one is Mariana spring from
2:04:45
the BBC. Who was on the on the on the Breakfast Show.
2:04:50
Explaining BBC verify. Have you heard of this the BBC verify No,
2:04:57
I'm
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John C Dvorak: sure BBC verify
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Adam Curry: is a tea meme that verifies and goes against the
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narrative, all the misinformation disinformation,
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the BBC is now your ministry of truthiness. And it was just so
2:05:10
funny, we will have to stop the clip a couple of times, our team
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Unknown: of investigative journalists here at the BBC, we
2:05:16
are also a new brand. And we are a physical location above the
2:05:19
newsroom in London. And the point of the team, as you said,
2:05:22
is to verify video to fact check to counter this information, and
2:05:26
to analyze really complex stories so we can get to the
2:05:29
truth of what's going on. Why does this matter? Well,
2:05:32
mysteries can cause really serious harm to society and to
2:05:35
the people in
2:05:37
Adam Curry: a very serious harm. And notice how she's above the
2:05:42
newsroom. This is this is great. She's above the newsroom. And
2:05:46
she's got her big symbolic the Oh, yeah, she's got her big
2:05:49
touchscreens. And why do we do this, because misinformation can
2:05:52
cause serious harm. It's
2:05:54
Unknown: not that well, mysteries can cause really
2:05:56
serious harm to society and to the people in them. And so we
2:05:59
want to show you our workings and really help you understand
2:06:02
how we get to the bottom of what's happening. And I'm gonna
2:06:04
give you a bit of a flavor of the kind of work that the team
2:06:07
are doing.
2:06:07
Adam Curry: This is work, this is work to remind you this is
2:06:10
the government, government outfit. The government runs
2:06:15
Don't worry, the government is here to give you the truth and
2:06:18
Unknown: to verify. So we're able to look at maps to geo
2:06:21
locate
2:06:22
Adam Curry: maps, John, they've got maps, they can go locate
2:06:26
Unknown: specific situations, stuff that's going on. And this
2:06:28
is just a map of stuff that's going on to London where we are
2:06:31
now. And this is new Broadcasting House where I'm
2:06:34
speaking to you from
2:06:35
Adam Curry: the zoomed in on where they are, they've got maps
2:06:38
that can geo locate themselves.
2:06:40
Unknown: And it's not so important, perhaps for the
2:06:43
centre of London, but it is when we're analyzing war zones, or
2:06:45
what's happening in hard to reach places. And there's a
2:06:48
story on the BBC website. Today, it's looking at Russian
2:06:51
fortifications, on the frontlines in Ukraine. And you
2:06:54
can read more about it there.
2:06:55
Adam Curry: I'm so sick of these maps of where everybody is in
2:06:59
Russia. These maps are bull crap. If you look at these maps,
2:07:05
and up with Hey, man, Wagner group is real look, here's where
2:07:07
everything is, I'd say where's this map from? It's like two
2:07:10
Russian dudes to Russian like teenagers do this map. It's
2:07:16
garnered from social media and from on the ground report.
2:07:20
Unknown: And there are other ways that we also are able to
2:07:23
interrogate what's going on, including on social media and I
2:07:26
have
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John C Dvorak: what's going on? Yes, yes. English is that
2:07:31
Adam Curry: well, now this is the cool thing. Listen, how she
2:07:33
interrogates what's going on,
2:07:34
Unknown: interrogate what's going on, including on social
2:07:36
media. And I have some undercover accounts that I've
2:07:39
set up for the BBC, cause podcast, and we use these kinds
2:07:43
of undercover accounts. And so she basically
2:07:45
Adam Curry: she's showing
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John C Dvorak: five does she just outer shell? Yes, she shows
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five
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Adam Curry: fake profiles. And two of them are black people.
2:07:54
And in the comments,
2:07:57
John C Dvorak: she's social media. blackface should be
2:08:01
banned. She shouldn't be excoriated,
2:08:04
Adam Curry: well, instead of that the some of the comments
2:08:07
were, maybe you should think of hiring actual black people at
2:08:10
the BBC. But okay, you can have your social media blackface for
2:08:14
Unknown: the BBC is America's podcast. And we use these kinds
2:08:17
of undercover accounts. And these are the characters that
2:08:19
the accounts
2:08:20
Adam Curry: Oh, she only use that for America, though. It's
2:08:22
not for not for Britain, because we're the racists you see
2:08:26
Unknown: the cover accounts that I've set up for the BBC,
2:08:28
America's podcast. And we use these kinds of undercover
2:08:31
accounts. And these are the characters that the accounts are
2:08:34
belong to. What
2:08:35
Adam Curry: do you think? I know the pay off, but what do you
2:08:38
think this is really all about? What do you think it's really
2:08:41
leading towards?
2:08:42
John C Dvorak: Get the jab?
2:08:45
Adam Curry: No, no, that's, that's yesterday? No, it's
2:08:49
something simply No,
2:08:50
John C Dvorak: no, it should give more support to Ukraine.
2:08:53
Adam Curry: Well, we already have that with the maps. No, no,
2:08:56
it's really there's a there's a there's a crescendo that
2:09:00
culminates into a peak,
2:09:02
Unknown: to be able to really understand polarization online,
2:09:05
and how what's happening on our social media feeds and what
2:09:07
we're being recommended and pushed to us can affect all of
2:09:10
us, and they don't offer us a totally exhausted insight into
2:09:14
what's going on, but they can help us understand just how
2:09:17
social media works.
2:09:18
Adam Curry: And how does social media work? The BBC explain
2:09:23
Unknown: then there's also investigating other mysteries
2:09:25
and the real world harm they can cause Oh, other
2:09:28
Adam Curry: mistreats treaties and other real world real world
2:09:31
harm they can cause
2:09:32
Unknown: and at the moment, I'm investigating the UK conspiracy
2:09:35
theory movement. I'm trying to understand more about how it's
2:09:38
evolved and intensified since the pandemic here in the UK. I'm
2:09:42
looking at the alternative media that finds itself at the heart
2:09:45
of this movement.
2:09:47
Adam Curry: At the heart of the movement is alternative media.
2:09:50
Do you think she means podcast as well? Could we be at the
2:09:53
heart of hope so, at the heart of the movement
2:09:56
Unknown: here in the UK, I'm looking at the movement to the
2:09:58
alternative media that find itself at the heart of this
2:10:01
movement and a conspiracy theory newspaper, that's a part of that
2:10:04
as well. I'm looking at the way that alternative media is
2:10:07
funded.
2:10:07
Adam Curry: Is it called the conspiracy times is I'd like to
2:10:11
know what this conspiracy theory newspaper is, what possibly
2:10:15
could it be
2:10:16
Unknown: this movement and a conspiracy theory newspaper?
2:10:18
That's a part of that as well. I'm looking at the way back.
2:10:21
Adam Curry: Is it the guardian? I mean, tell us which one lady
2:10:23
Unknown: alternative media is funded. I'm looking at its
2:10:25
impact on local communities. I'm looking at its connections with
2:10:29
far right figures, and also its foreign links. That's for a
2:10:32
podcast series that will be coming out in June. It's called
2:10:35
Mariana in conspiracy land. And it will be available on PVC
2:10:38
sounds radio for asking that question. Could January the
2:10:41
sixth? Oh, a German coup attempt, like we saw there ever
2:10:45
happened here?
2:10:46
Adam Curry: Could January 6, or military coup attempt such as we
2:10:50
saw on Jen in Germany ever happened here? Mariana in
2:10:54
conspiracy land everybody. Could it get any weirder? BBC. Mariana
2:11:01
in conspiracy land? No, brother.
2:11:05
John C Dvorak: That the name of the newspaper
2:11:06
Adam Curry: now. That's the name of her her podcast with the
2:11:11
combination of BBC verify. All right.
2:11:14
John C Dvorak: We would just mention that podcast. Let's play
2:11:17
this. This is an NPR house ad. And there's a podcaster
2:11:22
involved. And I used to hear these house ads so much, but I
2:11:26
had to play this one I think is really should be part of what's
2:11:28
wrong with these podcasters.
2:11:30
Unknown: Hey, it's Greg Dixon from NPR state of Ukraine
2:11:33
Podcast. I'm one of 1000s of NPR net women,
2:11:36
Adam Curry: his podcast state of Ukraine baby. It's the state of
2:11:39
Ukraine. What kind of podcast is that? It's a podcast about the
2:11:44
state of Ukraine. I bet he has maps. Did you have access to
2:11:46
maps? I believe that
2:11:48
Unknown: hey, it's Greg Dixon from NPR state
2:11:50
Adam Curry: of Ukraine. By the way, not just don't start your
2:11:52
promo with Hey, it feels rude. Hey, it's Greg Dixon
2:11:57
Unknown: from NPR state of Ukraine podcast. Hey, I'm one of
2:12:00
1000s of NPR network voices coming to you from over 200
2:12:04
Local newsrooms across the country. We bring all Americans
2:12:08
closer together through free and independent journalism, music,
2:12:11
politics, culture, and so much more. The NPR network what you
2:12:16
hear changes everything. Learn more at npr.org/network.
2:12:21
Adam Curry: Okay, along with that podcast, hey, hey, Tuesdays
2:12:26
toe two piece of information regarding Project Veritas. One.
2:12:31
It seems like the executive directors out
2:12:35
John C Dvorak: our guy. Yeah, he's gone to so so much for our
2:12:38
Asian side.
2:12:39
Adam Curry: Yes, he wrote he resigned. wishes we both find
2:12:43
rather interesting. Yeah, we do. And at the same time, the O M.
2:12:48
G, the O'Keefe Media Group, continues to do great work with
2:12:53
crap sound. It's amazing. O'Keefe, O'Keefe? It look. I
2:13:00
cannot believe that we helped him when he was at Project
2:13:04
Veritas to get their sound together. So you could actually
2:13:07
use bits of their audio. So Keith is at MIT, who is no one's
2:13:13
advising him now. Now. He has nobody to help him. But he had
2:13:17
it pretty good piece. Because you know what he's doing now? Is
2:13:19
he just sending microphones to people and saying, Go honeypot
2:13:23
somebody and it's great. So we had one of his O'Keeffe Media
2:13:28
Group people's a girl or a young woman clearly hitting on this
2:13:34
dude Luke Borg Borg again, we're wagon, who was a staffer for
2:13:39
John Fetterman. And by the way, this works so well. You know us
2:13:44
hey, I'd like to have lunch with you and then you just start
2:13:47
asking questions and this guy you know, he's his blood is
2:13:50
drained from his brain he's just saying anything that he can get
2:13:54
a get a look at this woman. No, we don't see her but it doesn't
2:13:58
matter. I know how this works. So here's here's the TV a
2:14:02
John C Dvorak: lot of guys would fall for this.
2:14:05
Adam Curry: Yes. Well, that's how they got the Pfizer guy on a
2:14:09
on a date with a with a guy. You totally
2:14:14
John C Dvorak: Mueller but not quite to say
2:14:15
Adam Curry: oh six the same idea. So, O'Keefe sets us up and
2:14:19
makes us laugh. And then I went through the trouble of fixing
2:14:23
his audio to listen to the original which is much better.
2:14:26
Laura
2:14:26
Unknown: Wiggins Special Assistant to John Fetterman says
2:14:29
that they pick journalists that will quote say exactly what the
2:14:33
you want them to. He also says that the journalists are puppets
2:14:38
he actually named the journalists and okay shooting
2:14:41
John C Dvorak: case but by the way, yeah, I know why you're
2:14:45
playing this. Yes,
2:14:47
Adam Curry: that's why I stopped short here. But now I fixed the
2:14:51
audio. I fixed it. So while he was spending time bleeping out
2:14:55
an expletive. I fixed his audio so we can listen to The
2:15:00
gloriousness of this dude, who was thinking he's getting laid
2:15:05
and is probably never going to work in Washington ever again.
2:15:09
And he names a number of journalists not just the one
2:15:13
that you know of.
2:15:14
Unknown: They're desperate for an interview with John. I mean,
2:15:16
like, bad reporters, but like, do you want to access journalism
2:15:19
news? Report it's like reporters who will basically tell whatever
2:15:27
story like this thing tech wants, as long as they get the
2:15:30
interview. Like, there's certain like Trump, journalists who
2:15:34
refuse to do that. Can
2:15:35
Adam Curry: you hear this? Okay? Is it is it Yeah, no,
2:15:37
John C Dvorak: keep playing. It's good. It's good enough.
2:15:39
Unknown: Because like, everybody wants an interview with the guy
2:15:42
um, ya know, like, as big as when you're socialists it was
2:15:45
being given areas to it's like, the ones effect like we'll just
2:15:51
say exactly. Like, so that's why you pick the journalists that
2:15:55
you say whatever you want us to know. Pretty much like they want
2:16:00
to play in a bad way. They don't see that just by Joe
2:16:05
Scarborough, Joe Scarborough, Scarborough like they're like
2:16:09
Morning Joe is worse than a guy that you guys didn't hear.
2:16:12
Interviewer Yeah, and he actually stops like He's former
2:16:20
pod save America like
2:16:21
Adam Curry: he's so far. We've got Joe Scarborough. Morning
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Joe. He sucks but he'll say whatever we want and then pod
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save America
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Unknown: cast. Pod save America. Yeah, this former staffers.
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John C Dvorak: I'd like to wait she she's good at as an amateur.
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Yeah. Oh, yeah. She's like Paul doesn't need much coaching
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because she she specifically stops and pronounces things
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slowly. Yep. And enunciates Oh, you mean pod? save America.
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Adam Curry: She's great. She is I mean, she's a gem for sure.
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She must be a looker John. And she's got the she's got the
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vocal fry going on. She got everything. She's really doing a
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good job on this guy.
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Unknown: Pod save America like podcasts. Oh, pod save America.
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Yeah, this former Obama staffers who like they were like one of
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the first big political podcasts. I think they're the
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number one political podcast in the country. Just because you've
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had it for like 10 years and like you don't have friends
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before anybody else have podcasts? Yeah. We did an
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interview with post drum like a month out from the election and
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they did really well because you knew they would go along with
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what you wanted. So who are those journalists hope you guys
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like on or fainting. We have an interview at time. Time Time
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Magazine and this is like back reporter who is also as like
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veered into political stuff are their names Kara Swisher be like
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as multiple podcasts that I listen to like every Kara
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Swisher is like one of the best she has interviewed. So
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interesting, but I wonder who they are because I'll listen to
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those people. There's like compass
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Adam Curry: cares Swisher she's the best she's they're all
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puppets
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John C Dvorak: Okay, now I was ignoring the story because you
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did this extra work to make it so it's very, very good job by
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the way. So I'm gonna give you a clip of the day for that.
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Adam Curry: Oh, well. This I had not expected I'm humbled. Thank
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you very clear.
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John C Dvorak: But yeah, this woman, whoever she is, is a
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natural
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Adam Curry: and Kara Swisher needs to repent. I mean to be
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it's one thing if James O'Keefe calls you out like who cares?
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She'll just say James O'Keefe is a douchebag. But this is an
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actual guy who booked you to interview Fetterman and I
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remember her her interview and her say fentimans Great it's no
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pride no problem understanding me no problem understanding he