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June 8th, 2023 • 3h 6m

1562: Tink Tank

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John C Dvorak: If you know, you know, Adam curry, John C Devora
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Adam Curry: 2023 This Year Award Winning Combination media
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assassination episode 1562.
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Unknown: This is no agenda,
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Adam Curry: counting PM 2.5 and broadcasting live from the heart
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of the Texas Hill Country. Number six in the morning,
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everybody.
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John C Dvorak: I'm Adam curry from Northern Silicon Valley
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where I'm wondering if Mary J. Blige has ever been called out
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for cultural appropriation and just kill.
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Adam Curry: You know, there's some things I just never expect
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to hear out of your mouth. Mary J. Blige will be one of them.
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Just don't expect it. You know, it's like, Oh, okay. By the way,
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you sounds like you have a little bit of a sniffle.
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John C Dvorak: I seem to be congested. Yeah. Go away in
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about an hour.
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Adam Curry: As you power through it, like a pro. Yeah. So tell me
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about Mary J. Blige. What's up with that?
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Unknown: Blonde hair
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John C Dvorak: she has that's that's Marilyn Monroe's hairdo
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Adam Curry: Oh, that's cultural appropriate. Yes. cultural
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appropriation.
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Unknown: Don't you think?
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Adam Curry: Yeah, totally. I guess. Man, there are so many
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stories. To start off I thought the story would be the you know,
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the ghost plane. I thought that would be the story for today.
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John C Dvorak: I forgot about already I know wow, he forgot
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about that.
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Adam Curry: Let's play it anyway, just because I have
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three clips I'll play one and drop the others
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Unknown: joining us now CNN aviation correspondent Pete
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Muntean peak warning to you. What what what can be ruled out
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right now?
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Can be rolled out here, Poppy, but all of the signs point that
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this was a rapid decompression of this Cessna Citation jet. The
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air inside is pressurized enabling those inside to breathe
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normal air while outside the air is thin and unbreathable. This
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is very similar very likely to the Payne Stewart crash of 1999
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that killed that professional golfer on board a Learjet. What
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is so interesting about rapid decompression. Ghost plane one
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of the spookiest outcomes spin professional pilots worry about
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Yeah, high at altitude when the airplane decompresses very
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quickly. That leads to air inside being very unbreathable
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Adam Curry: I love that. Very unreadable. Yeah within your
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you're done within five seconds 15 to 30 seconds really? And
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they got it right this time after CNN for hours was talking
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about a small plane because they heard session I can't.
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John C Dvorak: Okay. When I first heard the report I said
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boy did a piper cub. Well, then I said, Benny, me UK. How do you
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get decompression on a piper cub? Are you pressurize? There
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you go. Well, meanwhile Of course it was a jet.
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Adam Curry: Yes. It was a total director of course. But who
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John C Dvorak: was who I always see these things as he somebody
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was killed it was assassination. No, no, no. And I'm gonna Okay,
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well, I'm gonna take it one step further. Okay, I think the the
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unbelievable train wreck in India which killed 200 was an
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assassination of somebody. Some one person that's
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Adam Curry: okay, that one I'll say is possible. This one had so
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many kids, you know, of course, because we had a sonic boom, the
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jet scramble chaos over the nation's
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Unknown: really loud boom metric.
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Really loud boom rattling residents.
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I was worried something happened to the kids first. We all
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thought it was an earthquake earthquake emergency officials
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in Annapolis Maryland tweeting the boom that was heard across
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the DC region was caused by an authorized DoD flight. This
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flight caused a sonic boom a senior government official
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telling NBC News fighter jets scrambled after air traffic
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control lost radio contact with the pilot of a small business
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jet a Cessna Citation. Alright, so
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Adam Curry: couple of things just to clear to every
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everyone's mind because, you know, I got I got texts and
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emails 911 type attack, assassination, Trump's Trump
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donor. Yeah. Like okay, okay, very sad. You know, it's a mom,
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grandma, you know, a baby, you know, that and one and one
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pilot, of course. So it's it is possible, because this plane has
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had rapid decompression before not this particular plane, but
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this type it's possible that it didn't even compress on the way
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up that unlikely but that is a possibility. But if you're at
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flight level 340 So 34,000 feet decompression. If you know it
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right away, could you get you get oh god you get off and then
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you fall down 15 to 30 seconds. That's including the time it
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takes to you know, come back to reality after if you can get
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your oxygen mask on. And this particular type doesn't have
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rapid Dawn masks so and it wouldn't have mattered if you
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had a co pilot they both could have been out at the same time.
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Now what was interesting is that the flight went past its
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destination then circled back and then came in to DC airspace
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and that everyone pretty much thinks that the flight
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management system just ran out of waypoints, came back to soak
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around for what it would have presumed was an approach and
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then just kept going. And it probably had Reagan as an
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alternate programmed in and then so was on its way to Reagan.
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And, you know, they just intercepted it flew through some
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flares, so no one they saw the pilot presumably slumped over
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couldn't see any passengers. There's no mention of it. And
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then it crashed. But man, I thought that was going to be the
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story of the day. And wait.
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John C Dvorak: I'm going back to my train wreck. Yeah. Okay.
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Adam Curry: All right. Who do you think assassinated? The
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reason? I
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John C Dvorak: don't know yet. No. Okay. But the reason I'm
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suspicious is because it's the exact set that train crashed in
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the exact same way the opening of the series Rubicon began
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Adam Curry: Oh, man, good one. Oh, yes. Oh, we haven't talked
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about Rubicon in a long time. Very good. Very good. Okay,
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well, we'll have to figure it out.
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John C Dvorak: It'll be somebody though. The guy's name will crop
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up.
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Adam Curry: So and I think, Man, this, this is kind of a combo
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news story, because couple things happened. We had this
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damn. Break slash get blowed up. You know, terrorism, military
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strike. It's all very unclear. And with this, we saw the return
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of Tucker Carlson. Tucker on Twitter as it's branded 10
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minutes from what looks like the barn where he did his previous
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show only without the full set there.
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John C Dvorak: I found out a couple of things. Okay. Fox and
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a crew in and took his old set away.
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Adam Curry: Well, that's what they said. I'd heard this we'd
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actually heard that believe is probably true. It's their stuff.
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Yeah. Well, they took away the SAT. They took away the gear.
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Okay.
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John C Dvorak: They definitely took away the mics.
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Adam Curry: So what? Yes, they did. And they forgot and they
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took the soundproofing or whatever it was, it was very
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boomy. I have issues with what's happening here. One. The I love
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how it's now at 110 million views. Everyone's like, this is
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a smashing success. Well, first of all, these view counts. I
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don't trust any of it. If you see it on rumble has like 13,000
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views. And is that a unique views is that people playing it
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over and over again. Is that refreshing? Oh, who knows what
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that is. But there was also no advertising this was as far as
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we can tell, talk are exercising his right to free speech, and
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not a paid a paid gig. In fact, Axios has a whole story now that
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that Tucker is getting, you know, now that he's getting sued
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by Fox, because he's not supposed to do that, you know,
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he's still in his contract. And Tucker is, this is what Axio
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says on we don't know if this is true. We see we've seen no
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evidence of this. That just almost hearsay, yes. And, but
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the thing that bothered me is what he said. And it was right
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at the beginning. So I'll play the flight way
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John C Dvorak: before you before you buy, know where you're gonna
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go to play. But you might as well play the actual beginning.
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Adam Curry: I have the actual beginning. It's at the beginning
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of the whole beginning.
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John C Dvorak: Social you're going to play Hi, I'm Tucker
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Yes, the whole thing. I would get the reason I wanted to play
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that standalone is because who else does that exact same
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opening. OJ Simpson
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Adam Curry: Good morning. We woke up early didn't wait. Hey,
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it's Tucker Carlson. The SEC. Hey, it's me. Hey, everybody.
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It's OJ your friend. Oh, Jason. You're right. You're right.
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You're right.
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Unknown: Hey, it's Tucker Carlson this morning. It looks
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like somebody blew up the cove Ken dam in southern Ukraine. The
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rushing wall of water wiped out entire villages destroyed a
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critical hydropower plant. And as of tonight puts the largest
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nuclear reactor in Europe in danger of melting down. So if
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this was intentional, it was not a military tactic. It was an act
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of terrorism. The question is who did it? Well, let's see. The
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Caicos Gundam was effectively Russian It was built by the
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Russian government. It currently sits in Russian controlled
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territory. The dams reservoir supplies water to Crimea, which
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has been for the last 240 years home of the Russian Black Sea
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Fleet. Blowing up the dam may be bad for Ukraine, but it hurts
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Russia more and for precisely that reason the Ukrainian
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government has considered destroying it. In December, The
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Washington Post quoted you Randy in general, saying his men had
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fired American made rockets at the dams floodgate as a test
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striker. So really once the facts start coming in, it
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becomes much less of a mystery what might have happened to the
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dam and he fair person would conclude that the Ukrainians
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probably blew it up, just as you would assume they blew up Nord
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Stream the Russian natural gas pipeline last fall. In fact, the
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Ukrainians did do that as we now know.
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Adam Curry: What what was that? As we now know, so I start
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scrambling what what what did I miss? When did it go from me
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even even Tucker was talking about see more Hirsch's
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deconstruction of what happened. And so now for whatever reason,
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because the only place I can find this is an article in
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Washington Post. And articles from the New York Times
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referring to the Washington Post. And here is the here's the
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piece that I guess Tucker is referring to. Three months
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before saboteurs bombed the Nord Stream natural gas pipeline, the
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Biden administration learned from a close ally that the
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Ukrainian military had planned a covert attack on the undersea
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network, using a small team of divers divers who reportedly
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direct who reported directly to the Commander in Chief of the
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Ukrainian Armed Forces. Details about the plan, which have not
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been previously reported, were collected by a European
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intelligence service, and shared with the CIA in June of 2022.
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They provide some of the most specific evidence to date
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linking the Government of Ukraine to the eventual attack
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in the Baltic Sea, which US and Western officials have called a
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brazen and dangerous act of sabotage on Europe's energy
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infrastructure. The European intelligence report was shared
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on the chat platform discord, allegedly by National Air
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National Guard member Jack Tisch, Shara. So now we're back
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to the leaked documents from that from that punk. And that's
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now what we believe I told you, by the way, have you sent me
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that cache of documents yet from the No, because it was never
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sent to me? Yeah, because it doesn't exist. They're using
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this kid as for anything that Oh, no, it was it was on the
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discord server. I
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John C Dvorak: actually, I'm surprised you went through all
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the trouble just because Tucker himself mentioned that's where
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it came from.
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Adam Curry: But he said but he Yes, that's fine. But he says
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it. No, he didn't say was from the discord server. Yeah,
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Washington Post. Oh, I
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John C Dvorak: know. He said discord. Yeah.
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Adam Curry: Okay. Well, how can he take that as fact? Like, no,
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no,
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John C Dvorak: you asked your That's lame. So I think lame
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rehearsed is a little more trustworthy than random
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Adam Curry: doc. Yes. So Bo, for Tucker to lead into that. It
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makes him very suspect. Like, okay, so you're all in on that
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now. But of course, that doesn't stop any free everybody else
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from getting on the horn. And I loved our good buddy Petraeus,
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who jumps on with Deutsche Avella. Of course, completely
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CIA controlled. I think that's pretty well established,
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certainly by the people that fire us by that's production.
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Hello. Was pretty well established. And, and so they
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have this Washington correspondent. And maybe you see
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her with like the spiky hair and she's, she speaks English in a
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very fun way because she uses German grammar, which is always
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reverse kind of like Dutch. So she says things in the wrong
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order. But, you know, of course, Petraeus is a good friend of
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Deutsche Avella. David Petraeus
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Unknown: is a retired four star general and the former director
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of the CIA. He's still Val connected to the intelligence
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community here in the United States and has been a very
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insightful interview partner for DW news. Yes, of
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Adam Curry: course. Yes, he's our he's our sources say the
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intelligent community. Okay,
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Unknown: General, good to see you, again, is a huge Soviet era
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DEM that actually separates Russian and Ukrainian forces in
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southern Ukraine was just breached. So what is the impact
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of this incident on the war?
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I don't know that there's a huge impact on the looming
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offensives. There's obviously an enormous impact on the citizens
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of the 80 towns and villages that had been flooded by this on
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the livestock on those zoo animals who tragically perished
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other than the ducks in the swans on the reduction
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Adam Curry: in thanks for that. So illogical report, General
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Petraeus, ducks and swans can swim amazing
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Unknown: electrical generation and on the impact on the water
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supply, which includes, by the way, that which goes to Crimea,
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it This presumably was done by the Russians. There are public
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accounts that US intelligence has indications that It was
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Russians, President Solinsky, of course, very publicly denied any
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involvement. And I cannot imagine that he would do that if
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their involvement
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Adam Curry: because of Lenski would never lie to us. No, no,
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no, I can't imagine I can't imagine he would
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Unknown: know denied any involvement. And then I cannot
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imagine that he would do that if there was Ukrainian involvement
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now. And so the real question in my mind is, was this just one
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more example of Russian incompetence? Oh, that's because
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there were reports last week have some issues with that dam,
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there's so much water behind it and so forth. There were cracks
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or what have you cracked? Or did they literally blow the dam up?
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Thinking that somehow this might delay the offensive or disrupted
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in some way? But I don't think that that is going to be the
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case.
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Adam Curry: Where's the imagination? General? This is
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the correct I think I read some about cracks in the dam. And you
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know, is it Lenski would never lie to us. And I'm just gonna
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play another 45 seconds of, you know, an example of where he
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gets his information from. And this is about, you know, the
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destruction of all the Russian tanks, of course, and he
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actually tells us, where his what his reliable intelligence
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sources are,
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Unknown: well, they've sustained enormous losses. You know, in
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today's day and age of open source media, intelligence,
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there's a website that actually tracks absolutely confirmed,
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verified destructions of say tanks and bitter fighting
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vehicles, just the tanks alone confirmed. And again, this is
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confirmed by photograph with metadata that so you ensure that
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you don't double count, etc. Just confirmed, well over 2000
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tanks lost. I'm sure that there's probably another many,
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many hundreds, if not another 1000 that just aren't, aren't
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confirmed. And the way that they have is called oryx.com. By the
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way, for those that want to visit, I think it's a Dutch firm
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is a Dutch America. I'm very proud of that.
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Adam Curry: Very proud of that. Yes. Very proud of that
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bullshit.
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John C Dvorak: Very proud to see a part of it, I guess.
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Adam Curry: So he's very proud of and I and it's oryx.com I've
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looked at every version of the spelling cannot find it or I
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XORYAYX Maybe it wasn't Oricom it was C K. S. I've tried
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everything. When you can't find it. Guy can't find it cannot
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find anything or x.com but he's very proud of it. And it's open
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source reporting, which reminds us a little bit of belling cat
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John C Dvorak: that you know, as you lead up to this clip, that's
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where I thought this was headed.
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Adam Curry: I know. I wish I wish he had said belling cat
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that would have made it even funnier. But now there's a new
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buttons that they've been exposed. compromised that now
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there's this new one. So maybe
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John C Dvorak: chat room get to work
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Adam Curry: on the trolls actually hat but Oryx Michi Oh,
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okay. There is an oryx, but it's Oh, it's not oryx.com it's Oryx,
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by us beyond corp.com. Brother, what a horrible URL. You're
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proud of this? Yeah, okay. It's ORXORYXSPIOENK o p.com.
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John C Dvorak: Do you dare give it to me. I want to type it in.
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Okay, ready? O ry? XSPIOENKOP.
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Adam Curry: Or IX beyond? corp.com? Yeah, that sounds a
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lot like oracle.com. Brother. And let's see do
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John C Dvorak: he is basically reading from a script?
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Adam Curry: Yeah. Oh, no. Now, of course, of course, the whole
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point behind this. And I'm going to say it's the same people who
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did the Nord Stream and look at us sadly. Oh, by the way, they
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did find Deus boat for just boot. The gray zone went to
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Norway and they dropped a drone with a camera. And they
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retrieved a US Naval boot. Right. What you see that's like
19:18
the the passport from the Saudis outside the outside world trade
19:24
center. A US Naval boot right near where the where the where
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the pipeline was blown up. Okay. So this is just information
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warfare on both sides. But Zelinsky is baffled baffled that
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he doesn't have more money
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Unknown: more than a day after the destruction of the Gulf
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Kadem Ukrainian leaders say they are puzzled. Dozens of villages
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have been flooded. water reservoirs are lost to your
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cranium president said he's in shock over the lack of reaction
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from his allies and international bodies. Is that
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as Katrina chittka is what is needed now is a clear and quick
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response from the world to what is happening just a man is even
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impossible to establish for sure how many people temporarily
20:12
occupied territory of her son may die with our rescue without
20:16
drinking water or the Bizarre Foods without medical cast on
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military and special services are rescuing people as much as
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possible messed up despite all the shelling or put it off.
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Because many of the flooded areas are occupied by Russia.
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Ukrainians are struggling to evacuate stranded residents.
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President's land, Lenski urges help with those evacuations to
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save lives. He called on the Red Cross to deploy in the area
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Solinsky has called allies including rejecting cheap air
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Dhawan and Emmanuel Mac home
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to do so. Following that conversation, the crisis center
20:56
of my ministry is gearing up to send aid to Ukraine in the
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coming days does include several tons of emergency aid, including
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medicine, hygiene products and water purifiers.
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Anita will hold an emergency meeting on Thursday to
21:12
coordinate operations in the region. The IAEA has offered to
21:17
intensifying its role in this upper region nuclear plant to
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maintain the cooling of its reactors and divert yet another
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catastrophe.
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Adam Curry: Right. So Petraeus had mentioned that by the way, I
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didn't mention the catastrophe. So I killed Lisa swans, ducks
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got out, everything was gonna be fine. Lindsey Graham already
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signaling though, I'm very open to emergency funding for
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Ukraine. Got it, and it's gonna go into a military funding bill.
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Ha ha. Another 400 billion looks like these people have no shame.
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So we are in Ukraine war fatigue. And let's crank this up
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a little bit to crank it up. Everyone's on it.
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Unknown: Tonight, water still racing through the Kahoka dam in
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southern Ukraine. entire neighborhoods in her son
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flooded. Rescuers evacuating more than 1000 people. When the
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dam exploded this morning, dramatic videos showing the
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entire middle section swallowed up by the Ebro river, the US has
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intelligence that is leaning toward Russia as the perpetrator
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of the attack. According to two US officials, and one Western
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official
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Adam Curry: Who named you know, someone mentioned someone sent
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to me the video of the of you know, from like 2005 that spy
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who's explaining how how the CIA gets stuff into the news by
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putting it into, you know, the Tanzania times and then the New
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York always had two sets of those I know but the thing is,
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you don't need that anymore. We don't need that kind of
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reporting. Bring the boys back home. We just say according to
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sources, you don't need that. You don't need to justify it
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anymore. You just say people like Oh, yeah. Oh, some sources.
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Sounds like some sort of they got some sources those guys
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would know, you know, CNBC Mali, hunter of the
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Unknown: attack, according to two US officials and one Western
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official, but no final determination yet Ukraine
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pointing the finger directly at Moscow President Solinsky
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calling it a terrorist attack and a war crime. Becca Hoca dam
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is one of six dams on the nipro River it provides vital drinking
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water it provides power and it provides water for the cooling
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poles at the Zappa region nuclear power plant. Meanwhile,
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tonight The Washington Post reports that three months before
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the attack on Russia's Nord Stream gas pipeline, the Biden
23:34
administration learned from a close ally that the Ukrainian
23:37
military had planned a covert attack targeting it. The paper
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Citing multiple officials familiar with the matter, which
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does not say if the plan was carried out. NBC News has not
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confirmed the report. Ukraine has previously denied
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involvement.
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Adam Curry: Now again, you know, I'm Tucker's apparently all in
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on that reports just lame. You want to hear what the CIA
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Broadcast Systems has to say.
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John C Dvorak: Of course,
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Unknown: to begin tonight with the growing fears of an
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environmental catastrophe unfolding in Ukraine, not
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because of the ongoing bombs and bullets raining down on snow
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John C Dvorak: depleted uranium Forget it
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Adam Curry: ongoing bombs and bullets raining down. We could
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have put some sound effects in there CBS
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Unknown: but instead cascading floodwaters are threatening
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1000s of people after a quick cascading
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Adam Curry: floodwaters did writing prose over there this
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this doing well I'd like I like they've hired some writers
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Unknown: cascading floodwaters are threatening 1000s of people
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after a critical dam on the frontlines was sabotaged. We are
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learning those saboteurs are expected to peak in the coming
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hours. So
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Adam Curry: they're already saying sabotaged. It was
24:45
sabotage
24:46
Unknown: Ukrainian president Zelensky blamed Russian women.
24:49
Adam Curry: Sabotage, sabotage, isn't that your own people who
24:53
sabotage it
24:55
John C Dvorak: is sad but no sabotage goes either way. No but
24:59
if it's you You're a damn and it gets blowed up. You're not.
25:03
That's not sabotage. Yeah. But she said sabotage sabotage,
25:07
sabotage would indicate to me that it may be this is code for
25:10
to at least telling the cognoscenti that this is Ukraine
25:14
that did the cognisant.
25:16
Adam Curry: Thank you. Ukrainian president
25:18
Unknown: Zelensky blamed Russian terrorists for blowing up the
25:21
Soviet era dam, calling it the largest manmade environmental
25:25
disaster in Europe in decades. Oh, look at these stunning
25:31
satellite photos coming before and then after the explosion.
25:35
Look at all that water. Water. ozempic did a great job. He was
25:38
rushing now towards cities and towns, streets were turned into
25:42
lakes and rivers and homes and businesses swept away when it
25:47
comes just as Ukraine is beginning its long planned
25:50
counter offensive.
25:51
Adam Curry: Oh, darn the lock. He was just about to get the
25:55
counter offensive going and then now this
25:58
Unknown: we take territory. Russia Yeah, CBS Deborah Patton
26:01
is gonna start us off tonight with all the new developments.
26:04
Adam Curry: Oh, thank goodness. Well, okay, so that's the lead
26:06
in sabotage that we just about, just about to get it done. Oh,
26:12
shoot, we were so close more money.
26:13
Unknown: The glass smashed through the damn wall causing a
26:16
massive reach as one section collapsed completely sending
26:21
tons of water surging towards the southern city of have sun
26:25
less than 50 miles away. Homes partially submerged, some even
26:30
floating away and once fertile agricultural grounds now a soggy
26:35
wasteland. The flooding has forced the evacuation of 1000s
26:39
of people. Some fled under fire. Others scrambled to protect
26:44
their animals, like Tatiana, who frantically searched for her
26:48
pigs begging one dog not to drown and searching for others
26:53
in her waterlogged home. The dam holds back a reservoir
26:57
containing about the same volume of water as the Great Salt Lake
27:01
in Utah and is important for the safe running of the ZAP
27:05
parrhesia nuclear power plant, which is also Kremlin
27:08
controlled. The United Nations atomic energy body says that
27:12
plant is safe for now.
27:14
Adam Curry: Oh wait, I thought no, no, we have to put in some
27:18
nuclear war nuclear explosion fear
27:21
Unknown: that Ukraine is furious from official outrage in cube
27:25
with President Solinsky accusing Russia of a brutal war crime,
27:30
war crime, anger and loathing and have son we were under
27:35
occupation for nine months. Now we have been flooded by these
27:40
Richard occupiers Richard the Kremlin denies any involvement.
27:45
What both sides can agree on is that this has triggered an
27:48
environmental disaster, endangering crops, drinking
27:53
water and an entire ecosystem and a humanitarian crisis for
27:58
the people of her son who endured months of Russian fire,
28:03
only to be chased from their homes by rising water.
28:07
Adam Curry: I thought people already left her song. I thought
28:10
so too. So it could only be Russians that are there that are
28:13
flooded out. Okay, yeah.
28:16
John C Dvorak: Let's face it, we're not getting good
28:17
reporting.
28:18
Adam Curry: Oh, no, but at least we know what the propaganda is
28:21
from CBS. They ended up with 19 seconds here.
28:23
Unknown: White House National Security Council Spokesman John
28:26
Kirby says they're assessing reports that Russia is
28:29
responsible for the blast. And while they cannot say
28:32
conclusively what happened yet, Nora, what is clear is up the
28:37
damage to the Ukrainian people and the region will be
28:40
significant.
28:42
Adam Curry: What is snowed under this event is the explosion of
28:49
the Togliatti Odessa ammonia pipeline. Which, of course
28:57
Russia thinks might have been sabotage. The ammonia pipeline
29:02
is key to global food security 2 million tonnes of raw material
29:06
pumped through it annually to produce fertilizer, enough to
29:10
feed 45 million people. And we didn't hear about that it
29:14
depressurized, I guess and then exploded.
29:17
John C Dvorak: Well, where was it blowed up?
29:20
Adam Curry: It was it was blowed up. I'm not sure exactly. The
29:30
kopien SC district of the Kharkov region stinks.
29:40
John C Dvorak: more ways than one yeah, yes.
29:42
Adam Curry: Now CNN as you know, they fired their their, their
29:45
their head of everything programming.
29:48
John C Dvorak: Chris like Chris licked late today they got lick,
29:53
which is Dutch
29:53
Adam Curry: for light, lift. And so Poppy Harlow steps in and
29:58
explains what's going on.
29:59
Unknown: We also have Really fascinating no exclusive
30:01
reporting this morning fascinating copy of sources
30:04
saying Ukraine has cultivated a network of agents to act.
30:07
Sources say, as sabotage cells within Russia, US officials
30:12
believe that Ukraine has been providing them with drones
30:15
including the one that hit the Kremlin last month that has
30:18
gotten so much attention on Natasha Bertrand joins us now.
30:20
Natasha, this is fascinating reporting that you have for us
30:23
this morning meeting. Tell us what you've learned.
30:26
Yeah, probably. So there has been a steady drumbeat of
30:29
mysterious fires and explosions inside Russia over the last year
30:32
largely targeting oil depots, fuel depots, railways pipelines,
30:37
but officials have noticed and market increase in those kinds
30:41
of attacks on Russian soil in recent weeks, including just how
30:43
brazen they've become beginning of course, with that drone
30:47
attack on the Kremlin last month, and US officials are now
30:51
telling us that they do believe that Ukraine doober has
30:54
sympathizers inside Russia who are carrying out these attacks
30:58
on Ukraine's behalf. And not only that, but also that Ukraine
31:02
has actually given them drones in order to carry out these acts
31:05
of sabotage. Now, there are still a number of questions
31:08
here, including weather all of the drone attacks that we have
31:11
seen over the last several weeks inside Russia have been carried
31:15
out by these pro Ukraine sympathizers and agents, it is
31:19
unclear who exactly in Ukraine is controlling these operatives
31:23
and these kinds of sabotage cells, right. And they know that
31:26
Ukrainian president Solinsky does not require sign off on
31:30
every one of the operations that these agents and saboteurs carry
31:33
out inside Russia.
31:35
Adam Curry: So CNN is the network that brought us the
31:37
secret drone training facility. If you remember from the last
31:41
show, of course, they were sworn to secrecy and we couldn't try
31:44
to see what was going on. Although we saw all the drones
31:48
and we saw some footage of what the FPV first person view drones
31:52
looks like and he will checks in FPV drone dork here some info on
31:58
the Ukraine drones boots on the ground, I had been flying FPV
32:02
quad copters in Texas since 2016. The technology I see them
32:06
using seems to be from around that time. If they're all flying
32:10
analog video transmissions and receiving this will be
32:12
incredibly easy to jam. All the goggles I see them using our
32:16
analog goggles. Jamming is as easy as buying out 22 Watt video
32:21
transmitters sending one to each channel along the video spectrum
32:25
that these follows set to high power and you're done. Now
32:28
pilots will go blind as they soon as they crossed into this
32:31
array of broadcast radius. This doesn't eliminate the completely
32:34
autonomous units you can create with the addition of a GPS unit.
32:38
But the FPV startup seems easily quashed by a massarray around
32:42
any area you'd want to protect the Russians could even
32:44
broadcast a video message over this array for the pilots that
32:48
encountered to see so old technology 2016 Way to go CNN
32:54
bring us more.
32:54
Unknown: What about the West and position of the United States
32:57
Western allies? NATO supportive of this tactic?
33:01
Yeah, probably so outwardly. You know, US officials say that they
33:04
do not support these kinds of attacks inside Russia. But
33:08
privately, US and Western officials actually tell us that
33:10
they think this is a pretty smart military strategy. And in
33:13
fact, the UK Foreign Secretary told reporters just earlier this
33:17
month that Ukraine quote has the right to project force beyond
33:20
its borders to undermine Russia's ability to project
33:22
force into Ukraine itself and the French Vice Admiral actually
33:26
told CNN on Friday that these attacks are merely quote part of
33:29
war so they believe that it is a good strategy to distract Russia
33:32
to divert resources and importantly make the Russian
33:35
population fear that they really are not safe anywhere.
33:39
Adam Curry: Which I think seems to be the overall strategy now
33:42
from our Pentagon is to you know, is to get this inside
33:46
Russia thing going haven't heard much else from those mediatized
33:53
boys who are going into Russia the you know, the Russian the
33:56
real patriots who are going to attack inside Russia, but that
34:00
seems to be it you know, let's let's make the Russians afraid
34:03
the Russians up so they they will get rid of Putin once Putin
34:05
is gone then everything will be fine. It's only him. It's only
34:09
Putin only one guy
34:16
Unknown: that that is a new Ukrainian military video posted
34:19
on social media urging silence around plans about the highly
34:24
anticipated counter offensive of course, Russia this video ends
34:27
with a banner and it says plans love silence there will be no
34:30
started announcement.
34:31
Adam Curry: Oh, here we go. We're getting ready for the the
34:34
counter offensive. What is Bloomberg say? Good morning,
34:40
Michael.
34:40
Unknown: Good morning. Nathan Russia says it's reported a
34:43
large Ukrainian attack in the eastern province of danesco. Now
34:47
it's unclear if this was the start of a Ukrainian counter
34:50
offensive. Russian Defense Ministry spokesman Igor kinda
34:54
can scarf through translator was the enemy
34:59
Adam Curry: did not achieve its tasks. It had no success. As a
35:03
result of capable and calculated actions of the group of forces
35:07
East Ukrainian army suffered losses of more than 250 people
35:12
16 tanks, three armored personnel carriers and 21
35:17
armored vehicles.
35:18
Unknown: Ukraine did not come in.
35:22
Adam Curry: This is so stupid. Just sign the check already. We
35:26
know what it's for. Now, do you get the idea that this dam break
35:32
is? is really bad. Is it really really bad?
35:35
John C Dvorak: I have no idea. You can tell these reports are
35:37
all are lame. We are not getting decent reporting on anything.
35:42
No. I do have a Ukraine clip. Okay. Off handed you crane clip.
35:49
This is Claire. This is a very short part of a long interview
35:53
done with clarity.
35:54
Adam Curry: Love this. This is fantastic. I have this one too
35:57
good. I love it.
35:58
John C Dvorak: This is the part. This is the part I thought was
36:01
the most interesting because she brings out the politics of the
36:05
EU and who the real warmongers are, and one of them just
36:09
dropped. It was like what?
36:12
Unknown: This is good over the period of the war. After about
36:16
six months, I noticed a lot of Bulgarians were kind of very
36:19
cautiously now kind of pointing out the impact on the cost of
36:22
living and where was this war going now? And a few things like
36:25
that, to now more than a year later full on sort of going this
36:30
is lunacy. Why is why are none of you calling for peace? So I
36:34
think the countries around there, there'd be a lot of
36:36
outspokenness from the likes of Slovakia, Bulgaria, some of
36:40
these countries, ironically enough, but then you have the
36:43
absolute I mean, the German greens are like the biggest war
36:47
mongers in the place. And they'd be absolutely bad. The Polish
36:52
across the board don't seem to want the war to stop. Can't get
36:55
enough of it. The Baltic states are absolutely. And it seems to
36:59
me that they're the ones setting the agenda. So we have this
37:03
narrative before the war started off the likes of Poland and
37:06
Hungary being the sort of conservative outliers who the
37:10
European Union had to drag and discipline and mold to now
37:14
they're the ones setting the shots. And yeah, it's this
37:17
disgusting narrative that we're in a battle of authoritarianism
37:21
against democracy. But some of the measures being brought in in
37:24
the member states are utterly frightening in terms of
37:28
rewriting history, and the whole role of World War Two, forcing
37:32
elderly people in Latvia to take language tests because they had
37:37
Russian citizenship only because they couldn't get Latvian ones,
37:40
even though they lived all their adult lives in Lafayette, all
37:44
people. It's right and taken down historical monuments. And
37:49
this is gracious like ambitious targets and operations and we're
37:53
getting that into Parliament as well.
37:55
Adam Curry: I love it when the clips flow together, because I
37:57
happen to have a clip from Poland and a clip from Germany.
38:01
And this is what you obviously didn't see in the United States
38:04
or maybe any Western media, the largest protests ever in Poland.
38:10
Unknown: Organizers said it was one of the country's largest
38:13
demonstrations since the fall of communism in 1989. Decked out in
38:17
the red and white colors of the nation, half a million poles to
38:21
the streets in Warsaw, to say no to authoritarian Poland 34 years
38:27
on from the country's emergence from the communist regime.
38:30
Protesters say the government has reversed many of the
38:32
freedoms gained. People traveled from across the country for a
38:36
show of force called by former prime minister and head of the
38:39
centrist opposition party to task Yes.
38:44
We're here today. So the Poland's Europe and the world
38:47
sees how strong we are. machine how many of us are ready back
38:52
then 3040 years ago, to fight again for democratic and free
38:56
Poland or modify for our rights or national
39:00
their fighters with the populist nationalist Law and Justice
39:04
party in power since 2015. It stands accused of eroding the
39:09
rule of law, turning state media into a government mouthpiece
39:12
endorsing homophobia and attacking women's rights.
39:17
Adam Curry: So there's a lot in there at the end, that got a
39:19
little confusing for me. When it's like homophobia and women's
39:24
rights, I'm not quite sure exactly what their beef is with
39:28
this government. But the authoritarianism I believe and
39:32
what Claire Daly said kind of fit in with that. And when she
39:36
talked about warmongers, that is exactly what's happening in
39:40
Germany.
39:41
Unknown: Here in Germany. A video has gone viral showing
39:44
Chancellor Olaf Schulz in a rare outbursts of anger, shouting at
39:48
protesters who attacked his government's military support of
39:51
Ukraine. Officials was at a gathering of his party near
39:55
Berlin when a group of protesters disrupted his speech,
39:58
shouting slogans. slike make peace without weapons, and
40:03
calling Scholz a war monger.
40:14
We can have a quick listen now to some of the Chancellor's
40:16
impassioned response
40:22
Adam Curry: right? Let's listen to this. He was actually that
40:27
mad warmonger, he's the 100,000 soldiers he's killed
40:42
you guys out of control. Putin, Putin, Putin, Putin.
40:54
John C Dvorak: Well, the other thing is that Claire mentioned
40:56
in here, long talk was that she didn't think this word even
41:00
exist of angler Merkel is still a chance. Oh, interesting.
41:04
Adam Curry: I have a different clip, actually, from Claire's.
41:06
This is the Duran podcast. Yes. I have the one where she
41:11
basically blames it on NGOs. Did you hear that part? Uh, yeah, I
41:17
did.
41:17
John C Dvorak: That's a good clip.
41:18
Unknown: I think it's a really important aspect on this. I
41:20
mean, obviously, the slogan goes through this the first casualty
41:24
of war. And that is through and I suppose the disorientation of
41:27
the left. It's not that dissimilar to the way in which
41:30
the big social democracies caves, against the backdrop of
41:34
World War One, and so on. These things aren't new. But what is
41:37
new this time is if you even take the Iraq War, and there was
41:41
loads of disinformation. And there was loads of jingoism, at
41:44
that time, weapons of mass destruction and all that. But
41:47
the difference was, you could articulate an anti war position,
41:53
it might not have been the dominant in the mainstream
41:55
media. But every article and every program featured an anti
42:00
war argument that was engaged with so we got into the nitty
42:04
gritty Well, is it more for oil? What's the story here? Now you
42:08
don't engage with a political argument, you just say Putin
42:11
pulpit and that's anybody who calls for peace and there's no
42:15
analysis or taking the our space for critical thinking now that's
42:18
given rise to a huge crisis in the minds of ordinary people and
42:23
that's why we get so many emails from people going I think I'm
42:26
going crazy. If I'm the only one saying this or my friends are
42:30
repeating these slogans that they hear on the TV morning noon
42:34
and night but they're not the space for critical and rational
42:37
debate is shrinking. And it's getting worse now big time.
42:41
Adam Curry: And this is where this is so first of all, the per
42:45
th is is Oh just a tea and I know she's from Ireland but when
42:50
you get to critical thinking just gets weird or think tank
42:54
she's got a think tank
42:55
Unknown: by sea it links to the amount of American money
42:58
National Endowment for Democracy money which has been bragged
43:01
about us supporting independent media all across Europe. I think
43:05
that money now has been called in we have all the think tanks
43:08
that operate we have them in the European Parliament week in week
43:13
out advising us on policy and they never say this is a US
43:17
funded think tank like you know where it's it's just taken us
43:21
fortunately, us our friend when we say well look, the US are
43:24
interfering here and that this there are friends What are you
43:28
talking about?
43:29
Adam Curry: We're Dix what are we doing to the National
43:32
Endowment for Democracy with the think tanks? So we're all just
43:36
like in Congress here in DC we're in the EU in Brussels just
43:41
given a rib everybody the message Oh, it's also disgusting
43:45
Unknown: kind of thing even though they've done things which
43:48
are not very friendly. Nord Stream two for example,
43:52
potentially. And
43:55
Adam Curry: you Yeah, well, she had to throw in it potentially
43:57
there to make sure she didn't get assassinated.
44:00
Unknown: I mean, yeah, I look it strike the whole thing. I think
44:04
it's driving me crazy. I don't know it's it's mental. But
44:08
mental idea of shutting down the space for rational debate is
44:13
everywhere now. And now they're having these special committees
44:16
on foreign interference. They are doing fact checking but it's
44:22
not actually fact checking out all just if you have a different
44:25
deal. That's it, you're gone. They are now introducing the
44:28
parliament they're trying to criminalize and sanction people
44:32
in Europe for this information on foreign interference without
44:37
any legal definition of what that is. This is really
44:41
frightening the direction in which this has gone
44:44
Adam Curry: man. They're criminalizing speech in the
44:49
European Union in the in Parliament going after people
44:52
Makati ism
44:54
John C Dvorak: with a think tank. Well, she's going to be a
44:56
target.
44:57
Adam Curry: Well, this may be the last time we ever heard hear
44:59
her Do you like this? This and this was good I liked the Duran
45:04
podcast typically everything Oh, the Grandpa Grandpa cobras had
45:07
been good grew up. Now first of all, the DRAM podcast needs
45:10
someone doing their audio. Oh my goodness. The levels are so off.
45:15
I can't listen to it in the shower. But dive in I've never
45:20
heard them. I don't think I've ever heard him with a guest. I
45:22
think this was a good get and Claire Daly she spoke like she's
45:25
never spoken before. I think that's pretty good.
45:31
John C Dvorak: I'd never heard of this podcast. Oh, goodness.
45:35
Adam Curry: Yeah, it's yeah, it's some guy. He was like some
45:40
Russian background. He's the best. The dragon podcast the
45:46
dren, you should listen to the dren which I did. But it's hard
45:50
to listen to because that level suck.
45:54
John C Dvorak: Not that many people seem to know how to do
45:56
this correctly. No.
45:59
Adam Curry: No, and they keep trying to come up with boxes
46:01
that do it for you. But you know, we just make it look easy.
46:04
That's what people forget. We just yeah, just to make it look
46:09
easy. Anyway, it wasn't another big piece of news, which we
46:15
might have differing opinions of. This is the the apple
46:20
release of their vision Pro headset. The wait is finally
46:25
over.
46:26
Unknown: Introducing Apple vision pro
46:29
Apple, reality headset, first new product and yours.
46:33
You can see here and interact with digital content, just like
46:38
it's in your physical space.
46:40
Adam Curry: Today, announcing a $3,500 headset.
46:43
Unknown: We believe Apple vision Pro is a revolutionary product,
46:47
you can division
46:48
Adam Curry: pro offering life size video calls lifelike app
46:51
experiences and the ability to capture and watch multi
46:54
dimensional videos. Apple now rivals with metta and Google in
46:58
this space. But the market doesn't really exist yet space
47:02
Apple sells more than 200 million iPhones each year, fewer
47:05
than 9 million headsets have been sold by any company, the
47:08
company known for inventing new categories fighting to dominate
47:12
one that hasn't quite materialized, at least not yet.
47:16
So what did you think? I mean, you're You're famous for
47:20
predicting what will happen with Apple products?
47:24
John C Dvorak: Well, I'm not.
47:25
Adam Curry: You are famous for it. What do you mean, you're
47:27
not? Yes, you are infamous.
47:32
John C Dvorak: I think it's a military product. I put it in
47:35
the newsletter, I realized why
47:36
Adam Curry: do you think it's I saw that. Why do you think it's
47:38
a military product? It's
47:39
John C Dvorak: overbuilt? It's unbelievable in terms of
47:44
technology. I cannot believe for example, that they could even
47:49
manufacture it let alone sell it for 3500 bucks. Yeah. Well, I
47:54
Adam Curry: mean, I think they have to be
47:55
John C Dvorak: shipping a few $100 bill with every everyone
47:58
that sells they're gonna lose the more they sell the more
48:00
money they'll lose possibly. It's just a it's a ridiculous
48:04
product with the including LED screen on the front. Yeah, that
48:10
shows your eyeballs even though it's not your eyeballs. That's
48:13
like just a nice touch. Nice. So nice to talk to you like creepy.
48:18
Yeah. I think is basically a creepy product that that's fits
48:23
right in with the military. I can see you being used for
48:25
simulations, but war games and all sorts of things that save a
48:28
lot of money for the military. They can sell a military. mil
48:32
spec version,
48:33
Adam Curry: but what would it what would they use it for?
48:35
Because it's for tank
48:37
John C Dvorak: simulations and use it for wars.
48:40
Adam Curry: But they didn't show any demos of virtual reality. I
48:44
mean, a little bit of mixed reality with a basketball game,
48:48
but they didn't really show anything. It's very visual
48:51
reality. Well, I don't know if it's doable, but that's that's
48:53
what meta gave up on.
48:56
John C Dvorak: They're still selling those things. I'll tell
48:58
you my wife. I mentioned this on the DHF unplugged show. My
49:02
wife's a huge fan of this is Oculus,
49:05
Adam Curry: or she has an Oculus. Yeah. Oh, man. What's
49:08
she doing in there?
49:12
John C Dvorak: Fighting punching people.
49:18
Adam Curry: Now I need to get on Oculus and get in there and seek
49:21
Me funding people is she really doing is she playing war World
49:25
of Warcraft or
49:26
John C Dvorak: whatever, which is something where you punch
49:28
people a lot. A boxing game.
49:30
Adam Curry: Oh, you mean isn't it? Grand Theft Auto? That's
49:33
what
49:33
John C Dvorak: your point I don't think so. No, it's it's a
49:35
pure boxing game she says is the best workout she's ever gotten
49:38
really now. She says you just sit there and you punch and
49:41
punch and punch and you get pooped. You take the glasses off
49:45
and you've gotten a pretty good workout. You can be punching for
49:47
about a half an hour.
49:49
Adam Curry: Well, here's what I think of the apple vision Pro.
49:51
First of all, it's clearly a business device because of the
49:55
pro name. So they say that for a reason. I think This is perfect
50:00
for the future of slaves because it's a whole computer, you know,
50:03
it could be your, you know, your Mac Book, your iPad, your, you
50:08
know, people may not even want iPhones anymore, they'll only go
50:11
into this because you'll be living in your tiny home. Yes,
50:15
you'll be living in your tiny home and you won't have a spot
50:18
for an for an office, you want to have a spot for a huge
50:21
cinematic screen. I think I might actually like the
50:25
experience of watch when I tried the Microsoft headset, and
50:29
they're mixed reality.
50:31
John C Dvorak: Whatever happened to that?
50:33
Adam Curry: Well, it sucks. I mean, I tried, I tried using it.
50:35
And the only thing I really wanted to use it for it was to
50:37
have a big screen and to be able to see multiple screens and it
50:41
sucked, it didn't work, it really had to use the stupid
50:44
controllers. I can see people using it in a business
50:50
environment, you know, in your tiny home, where just, you know,
50:53
sit in your little spot there, we have to do everything we also
50:56
sleep and you bring up your multimeter you know, they say
50:59
it's visual or spatial shooting,
51:01
John C Dvorak: your grim view of the future is something to
51:04
behold.
51:05
Adam Curry: No, I think that's really what's going to happen. I
51:07
see that as, as a big winner. I personally would use this for
51:13
one particular thing. I would love to have a spatial screen
51:20
setup for doing podcasts. Especially when I'm traveling. I
51:24
mean, I schlep along so many screens and and mice and
51:29
keyboards and all this stuff. And that could just have I would
51:33
love to have in front of me that I can control with my hands
51:36
little Minority Report style, like boom, troll room over here
51:40
and reposition it. Yes, yes, I
51:43
John C Dvorak: would use this 100 times smell in app. Yes, I
51:47
Adam Curry: see the Adam curry podcast app totally Yan, we're
51:50
John C Dvorak: back. We're back in business, your business baby.
51:52
Adam Curry: I've been praying, like, please let somebody hear
51:55
my story. And come to me with Apple Hear my prayer. I want you
52:00
to give me a device and a developer so I can work on this.
52:04
It'll be a great podcast app. And then other people would buy
52:08
these headsets and they could have their version of us sitting
52:12
like across from each other. It wouldn't really be us. Yeah, I
52:16
can totally see that. You get the video stuff but the people
52:18
are always bitching about
52:19
John C Dvorak: we can be still besides your where you've got
52:22
something I think this is that this is good exit strategy,
52:25
Adam Curry: baby. I'm telling you, mom,
52:28
John C Dvorak: Hill Road comes out with
52:30
Adam Curry: Hill Road steals the idea. Anyway, what they did not
52:37
mention was AI. I thought that was pretty good. They didn't.
52:39
John C Dvorak: They named they went out of their way never to
52:42
say the words AI or blockchain, you know. And as far as I know,
52:46
they still don't have a touchscreen on their laptop. I
52:50
don't know what what's that?
52:51
Adam Curry: Well, that that's what this is. This is the
52:53
ultimate. So the way it works, you know, you just look at the
52:55
screen. And then you just click your fingers together to select
52:59
you don't have to put your fingers in the air. You can just
53:02
have on your lap or whatever. And then you can manipulate that
53:05
apparently is really good. You try uses it. Yeah, it does work.
53:09
Now how's that going to work for me with the Tourette's and all
53:11
the blinking. I mean, a mic on my screens will
53:14
John C Dvorak: make a damn bit of difference between point
53:16
points as
53:18
Adam Curry: well. Okay. That's what you don't see me What do
53:21
you know, you haven't seen me since I got married four years
53:24
ago. It's gotten worse blink
53:26
John C Dvorak: and much then why you blink and more. That
53:28
happened.
53:31
Adam Curry: However, we do have Intel all over the all over the
53:34
map. Now they're getting
53:35
John C Dvorak: there. By the way before he goes on to that. Let
53:38
me just say this about that this presentation by Apple. Yeah,
53:41
they went out of their way to slam Intel. Every chance they
53:47
could while they're changing chips, right as well. They've
53:50
already changed the chips. But now they're making the point
53:52
that these chips are the new mtwo Ultra and all the rest of
53:56
it are so much faster than the Intel Intel's pretty much saved
54:00
the company when they weren't going to get anywhere to PowerPC
54:03
and the other pre processor processes
54:05
Adam Curry: are ungrateful. ungrate They're ungrateful.
54:09
John C Dvorak: Huh. They I thought it was I thought it was
54:13
rude the way they did this.
54:15
Adam Curry: I thought you're going to talk about the priest,
54:17
the presenters. I thought the presenters were very
54:20
interesting, you know, multi CultI children of the future.
54:25
John C Dvorak: And the whole thing being on video, so he
54:27
didn't have the clapping audience, which has always been
54:30
the best part. Well, they haven't had that yet. Because
54:32
they haven't had that in a while. I don't know. And it's
54:34
just this, this these phony baloney videos. I think it's
54:39
big. So you're gonna get Steven Spielberg directing the damn
54:42
thing. I mean, it's ridiculous.
54:45
Adam Curry: I really feel that even I for a device like this,
54:51
you know, you know, I use my light phone during the day and
54:53
so I'm on the phone much less. It's only you know, just, I use
54:58
my my my graph you know? So is a toilet scroller, you know, like,
55:02
okay, you know what's going on here. Now there's just, I don't
55:05
want the distraction of much more present, I can see where
55:08
you don't have any computers anymore. You have some dumb
55:12
phone just you can get someone get a hold of you. And then when
55:15
you're in office mode or work mode, you put the you put the
55:18
headset on in your tiny home, and you do your thing and then
55:22
you're done. You're probably done after half an hour anyway,
55:24
you're tired of it's probably heavy, you know, this version
55:27
one, but I can see doing a podcast this way. And maybe even
55:31
some other work the spatial computing aspect. I like the
55:35
watching a movie and AI on a huge screen. I like I think
55:39
that's I think it's a winner. I think it's undervalued. I think
55:42
people are overestimating what it will do with virtual reality.
55:46
AR VR mixed reality. I think they're over estimating what it
55:51
will do with that. That's all going to depend i
55:53
John C Dvorak: i have the opinion because of the nature of
55:58
these sorts of devices, especially with children that
56:02
they will cause cause brain damage.
56:06
Adam Curry: Oh, it's definitely going to alter your brain
56:08
pattern for sure.
56:10
John C Dvorak: Well, not only that, but do the eyeball you
56:12
know you're not really looking at reality you're looking at a
56:14
screen Oh yeah. Then very small screen your focal length has
56:18
changed. What do you think you're gonna end up blind and
56:21
and I don't know babbling idiot.
56:24
Adam Curry: Well, what do you think? We're not that far off
56:26
with the with the portal with the hand with the smartphones,
56:29
people hunched over. They've got bad back
56:33
John C Dvorak: around. They're looking at her Sue is the women
56:36
only now as guys?
56:39
Adam Curry: Call them guys if you wish. All right, so Intel
56:43
striking back because they're all on the
56:45
Unknown: on the AI tip knowing what's real starts with
56:47
questioning everything. This is an ad by the way. Deep fake
56:50
videos are becoming more realistic every day across
56:53
social media and the news. That's why Intel created the
56:57
world's first real time deep fake detection platform powered
57:01
by Intel artificial intelligence and Xeon processors. The fake
57:04
capture solution can analyze over 70 videos at once with 96%
57:09
accuracy. This is the first technology to distinguish deep
57:12
fakes from real human beings in real time.
57:15
Adam Curry: No Oh, in real time. Deep fakes.
57:19
John C Dvorak: There's the little tidbit in there.
57:21
Adam Curry: What did you hear?
57:24
John C Dvorak: 96% of the time, meaning 4% of the time, they can
57:28
be fooled. Yes. 4% then that's the that's the trend line. It's
57:32
going in that direction. The full direction so if you can
57:37
fool it 4% of the time today. How about tomorrow? Can you feel
57:42
it? 10% of the time?
57:45
Adam Curry: Could be could be and I promise you AI on my Pixel
57:51
six. You scoffed at me and then we had that fabulous report from
57:58
NPR on the last episode about the chat bot. The realistic
58:03
chatbot $1 a minute for a virtual girlfriend. Yeah, and
58:09
well, I'm going to show you that weakness 60
58:11
John C Dvorak: bucks an hour. We can make a real girlfriends
58:14
cheaper if you play your cards right? No,
58:16
Adam Curry: no real girlfriends are expensive. In that right
58:21
baby
58:21
Unknown: in the morning, baby
58:22
Adam Curry: shake. We have it now we have our own AI. Say
58:26
hello to babe Jen. Is that your car over there? Babe Jen?
58:32
Unknown: No, that's not my car. I'm at the coffee shop Doom
58:35
scrolling no agenda social for good means that nothing's as
58:39
good as what you send me.
58:41
Adam Curry: See, our exit strategy is ready to go. John.
58:45
Are you a real person? Jennifer babe Jen, are you a real person?
58:48
Are you just I mean this this feels kind of weird talking to a
58:51
bot?
58:51
Unknown: He asked. I'm a real person. I've been listening
58:54
since 2010 and became a dame in 2013. There are multiple
58:58
pictures of me from no agenda meetups, and I'm very active on
59:01
no agenda social.
59:02
Adam Curry: Mm. Would you pay $1 a minute for this John? I think
59:07
is better than that. Crap NPR showed us.
59:10
John C Dvorak: Is this running off your phone? Yes. Running off
59:13
my phone.
59:14
Adam Curry: What do you want to talk about babe? Jen,
59:15
Unknown: what do you want to talk about babe? I know let's
59:18
discuss the importance of the Second Amendment and gun rights.
59:21
Will you take me to the range this weekend?
59:24
Adam Curry: She's tailored the AI is tailored to everything I'm
59:26
interested in.
59:28
John C Dvorak: I thought she refused to use the word baby in
59:31
the morning baby
59:32
Adam Curry: she keeps saying that what's ever said you
59:34
trigger that she keeps talking about baby
59:36
John C Dvorak: that is on the on the no agenda socialist she
59:38
wasn't gonna use baby in this script. Yeah, but yeah,
59:41
Adam Curry: but these aren't scripts. This is AI in
59:43
Unknown: the morning baby. Hey, later on tonight will you read
59:47
from End the Fed to me okay. That's funny, I
59:54
Adam Curry: think the biggest played out
59:57
John C Dvorak: in the Fed
1:00:00
Adam Curry: You know what's great about Dame Jennifer, you
1:00:02
don't have to send her a script. she just, she didn't have to
1:00:06
talk to her. She's just like, hey, this is I've never had so
1:00:09
much fun in my life. She says, doing this. She's the best. Damn
1:00:14
good ol all our producers are fabulous. The best producers in
1:00:19
the universe. Okay. I do want to mention, I do want to mention
1:00:28
the do our producer Dino Dino has put together the new being
1:00:33
at.io. Now with AI. And it has been incredibly helpful in a
1:00:41
number of specific scenarios, during my show prep. I'll give
1:00:47
you an example. Let me see we have one is the best. Oh, yeah,
1:00:57
we have this one over here. So this story pops up on ABC,
1:01:02
Unknown: a rare medical condition linked to
1:01:04
heavy pot smoking is becoming more common now that marijuana
1:01:06
is legal in so many states. It's called chs. And it strikes
1:01:10
people who use high doses of marijuana daily over an extended
1:01:13
period. CHS causes severe vomiting and is often overlooked
1:01:17
or misdiagnosed. The only way to be fully cured is to stop
1:01:21
smoking.
1:01:23
On challenge we have is that patients sometimes believe that
1:01:27
their use of marijuana is helping them. We know that in
1:01:31
patients with cancer, marijuana actually reduces nausea and
1:01:35
vomiting. So for many patients understanding that for them,
1:01:39
this is a poison is a tough pill to swallow.
1:01:43
Adam Curry: So it's now it's called ch s all I had to do was
1:01:47
go into being it.io. And I put in weed and vomit. out pops
1:01:52
episode 707. I'm sorry is about right. I'm sorry, not 707 up
1:01:57
pops. 994 from 2017 was in the Daily Mail, which
1:02:04
John C Dvorak: is mod which is submitting and screaming the
1:02:06
Adam Curry: concept of the story is if you smoke a lot of weed,
1:02:13
then eventually you get this syndrome, which combined
1:02:16
screaming out for dear life and vomiting at the same time.
1:02:21
John C Dvorak: Yeah. Which by the way. I don't live in
1:02:27
California, there's plenty of people that smoke do eat too
1:02:30
much. Dude,
1:02:30
Adam Curry: you had a partner for 10 years who smokes too much
1:02:34
weed. What do you do? Yes. I've never had never had this till
1:02:38
was called skyrocketing. And we did. And we deduced it and
1:02:44
deconstructed it and it's not smoking regular weed. It's when
1:02:48
you're dabbing when you're smoking the wax, which is you
1:02:51
know, and many of our producers mentioned this. And what this
1:02:56
report didn't include is that the one way to reduce the
1:03:00
symptoms is to take a shower and basically stand under the shower
1:03:04
that appears to reduce the symptoms significantly.
1:03:07
John C Dvorak: I forgot about the scrum a ting moniker, which
1:03:11
they will bring back because they don't want to remind you
1:03:13
this is an old story.
1:03:15
Adam Curry: Exactly. So now when you go to bing.io you type that
1:03:18
stuff in it'll give you results that will give you an image from
1:03:21
the Norwegian Art Generator give you if there's a clip. It'll
1:03:24
give you show notes, the actual stories. And if it's in the
1:03:28
transcript every single episode. Thank you Dr. Scott has been
1:03:31
transcribed. You click on it it'll take you right to that
1:03:35
spot in the audio in the episode show. Here's another example. Oh
1:03:39
my AI is so amazing. CBS
1:03:42
Unknown: It's cutting edge research cutting edge.
1:03:45
Artificial Intelligence is significantly better at
1:03:48
predicting a patient's cancer risk. According to a new study
1:03:51
out today. The role of AI in predicting breast cancer risk is
1:03:56
definitely in our future. Dr. Pauline durafast is a breast
1:03:59
oncologist with Houston Methodist
1:04:01
assessing a person's risk. The AI can do it probably a lot
1:04:04
cheaper and faster as well.
1:04:07
Current clinical models use a patient's age, family history
1:04:11
and information like breast density to determine risk.
1:04:14
Artificial Intelligence is able to get biomarkers, more
1:04:17
information from the mammogram, helping doctors make
1:04:21
personalized recommendations. The Kaiser Permanente research
1:04:24
analyzed more than eight
1:04:27
John C Dvorak: with their her presentation style. Why is she
1:04:30
talking like this? She's ai 10,000 women,
1:04:34
Unknown: AI took just seconds to determine their five year breast
1:04:37
cancer risk, and it was up to 25% more accurate when combined
1:04:42
with personal history. The American Cancer Society reports
1:04:46
this year alone, doctors will diagnose almost 300,000 cases of
1:04:50
breast cancer. More than 43,000 Us women will die of the disease
1:04:55
die. The rate of breast cancer in women ages 25 to 39 has
1:05:00
increased 32% since 2009.
1:05:04
I think it ends up being a very valuable tool in our arsenal.
1:05:07
Dr. Neeraj
1:05:07
Vasquez younger women could benefit from this technology, a
1:05:11
predictor of when they should get screened, which could save
1:05:14
lives.
1:05:14
Adam Curry: Now, first, I want to remind everyone that I
1:05:17
predicted this would be the first application of artificial
1:05:20
intelligence was just getting rid of the doctor. Just bringing
1:05:24
the AI to Oh, you might have breast cancer. I predicted this
1:05:28
one, maybe two, three weeks ago if that. This is where you say
1:05:32
yes, I remember.
1:05:34
John C Dvorak: Well, yes, unfortunately, I also remember
1:05:36
the same situation taking place in the 80s. When expert systems
1:05:41
quote unquote, we're going to replace doctors then. So this is
1:05:44
not a new idea.
1:05:45
Adam Curry: No, but it's a total bullcrap idea because this
1:05:49
problem was supposedly already solved in 2015 surefire way to
1:05:56
know if you might get breast cancer, it wasn't AI, it wasn't
1:06:00
feely touchy of the boobs. Here's episode 707 of Angelina
1:06:05
Jolie. Previously, this big promotion, right? Gene, the
1:06:10
brockagh, Gene, everybody bracket gene, cancer gene with
1:06:13
John C Dvorak: the patent, it's all over the news. And
1:06:16
Adam Curry: this why I'm bringing it up is patented or
1:06:18
the news. Only one company can tell you if you have this and
1:06:23
make money off of it, which is a year then pre cancerous for
1:06:27
breast cancer. Of course, the pre going
1:06:30
John C Dvorak: on with your voice in this. No, I
1:06:32
Adam Curry: don't know Something's very wrong with me
1:06:33
at that moment. This is 2015, who knows what I was doing. But
1:06:40
the point is, thanks to our our AI, we can take you right back
1:06:44
and show that they were so positive about this brockagh
1:06:47
gene and this this was the predictor that Angelina Jolie
1:06:52
had a mastectomy and had doubled double Marissa and had a very
1:06:55
nice reconstruction, which, as we all know, I won't play the
1:06:59
clip because I do sound weird was being paid for by Obamacare.
1:07:07
You could get reconstructive surgery for your double
1:07:09
mastectomy if you had the bracha gene. So now all of a sudden, we
1:07:15
don't remember that anymore. And I don't think they can put
1:07:20
Angelina Jolie in again as the spokesmodel that'd be kind of
1:07:23
weird. So it's a sham all of this stuff is just a sham. It's
1:07:29
a shame the whole medical system. It it's it's really
1:07:34
disgusting. I have I'm gonna say this is Yahoo News. So now that
1:07:43
they're I don't know if they're competing for the ad dollars
1:07:46
between the different pharmaceutical companies like
1:07:49
you know who will who will get the new RSV vaccine first, will
1:07:53
it be Pfizer will be Glaxo? I don't know. We're we're very
1:07:57
excited because you know, we've got the pitch team ready to go
1:07:59
sell some ad spots? Well, let's find out what's going on this.
1:08:03
This report is all giddy.
1:08:05
Unknown: FDA advisors are voting on Pfizer's experimental
1:08:08
maternal RSV vaccine here with the latest Yahoo Finance health
1:08:12
reporter Anjali Kalani and you've been listening and you
1:08:14
just pulled your earbuds out. What are you hearing?
1:08:16
We just got the vote and so hot off the press. We got a majority
1:08:19
of the vote. We just got the vote in for the Pfizer's
1:08:24
maternal RSV vaccine, and that's 14 to vote on approving it.
1:08:29
Adam Curry: It's like we're voting on on Trump's I can't
1:08:36
remember the word now impeach impeachment. We have the votes.
1:08:40
The votes are in I just listened in on the votes. They are
1:08:43
Unknown: recommending approval based on the efficacy of the
1:08:45
vaccine. But we did get a 10 to four vote on voting for on
1:08:51
recommendation on the safety profile of the vaccine
1:08:54
amendment.
1:08:55
Adam Curry: So we got everyone's like, Yeah, this is good. Let's
1:08:57
14 to Oh, but for dissented tend to what it should be like the
1:09:03
you know, it should be like NATO, you know, it should be
1:09:06
everybody says yes or not the Security Council. Thank you.
1:09:10
Security Council now is like the Oh, we got to attend to four on
1:09:13
the safety. Well, let's go over those dorks in
1:09:17
Unknown: just a second. But just to recap what we're looking at
1:09:19
with Pfizer's vaccine, it is a 120 microgram dose administered
1:09:24
to pregnant mothers between the weeks of 24 to 36 weeks, it
1:09:28
protects the baby up to six months, that's at least the
1:09:31
endpoint that they had notified and it met that endpoint. We
1:09:34
noted that in the data number one that later in the third
1:09:39
trimester is when that seemed to have the best efficacy as well
1:09:43
as strongest protection up to 30 days versus after that. Now
1:09:46
Pfizer is competing with GlaxoSmithKline for RSV
1:09:50
vaccines.
1:09:53
John C Dvorak: Aren't they really competing against a
1:09:56
baby's healthy immune system which is missing? so jacked up
1:10:01
that the baby really can't catch anything for about nine months.
1:10:05
And this only lasts six.
1:10:07
Adam Curry: giving this to the mothers. Yeah, but as for the
1:10:10
babies, they don't care. It's competition
1:10:13
John C Dvorak: is key. Eventually they're gonna stick
1:10:15
the needle right in the uterus. And now
1:10:17
Unknown: Pfizer is competing with GlaxoSmithKline. For RSV
1:10:21
vaccines, he didn't know to us specifically be that GSK
1:10:26
actually dropped out or pause their Phase Three because of
1:10:30
certain safety signals, which you can see of course indicating
1:10:33
those votes there. Specifically on preterm births. Pfizer noted
1:10:36
5.6% in their vaccine group versus 4.7 placebo. I don't know
1:10:41
Adam Curry: what this means, but it sounds like the the vaccine
1:10:43
numbers are better than the placebo
1:10:45
Unknown: GlaxoSmithKline to back it
1:10:46
John C Dvorak: up, back it up.
1:10:50
Adam Curry: These people are sick. Yes.
1:10:54
John C Dvorak: Back it up a little bit so I can hear what
1:10:55
those numbers were.
1:10:56
Unknown: See, of course, indicating those votes there.
1:10:58
Specifically on preterm births. Pfizer noted 5.6% in their
1:11:02
vaccine group versus 4.7, placebo GlaxoSmithKline noted
1:11:06
John C Dvorak: enough to make a difference.
1:11:09
Unknown: exactly see, of course.
1:11:12
John C Dvorak: But in other words, the placebo almost gave
1:11:14
you the same results.
1:11:15
Adam Curry: Well, there's one, Glaxo had a different result,
1:11:18
Unknown: the signals, which you can see, of course, indicating
1:11:21
those votes there, specifically on preterm births. Pfizer noted
1:11:24
5.6% in their vaccine group versus 4.7, placebo,
1:11:28
GlaxoSmithKline noted 6.8% in their vaccine group versus 4.9,
1:11:33
and in placebo, so the placebo numbers are pretty close. They
1:11:36
also do have some similar indications. One major
1:11:39
difference is that GlaxoSmithKline
1:11:41
John C Dvorak: second. This idiot is reading this as though
1:11:48
she is she's reading it with it with a notion in the subtext
1:11:54
that, and she says it, the placebo numbers are pretty
1:11:57
close. Yeah, meaning that it's good
1:12:01
Adam Curry: that she doesn't know what she's doing. She's
1:12:03
just supporting numbers. Oh,
1:12:04
John C Dvorak: this is good at the placebo numbers, the placebo
1:12:07
if you get a high placebo number, that means that it's no
1:12:11
need to drug
1:12:13
Adam Curry: but that's one more detail
1:12:15
Unknown: vaccine group versus 4.9 and in placebo, so the
1:12:18
placebo numbers are pretty close. They also do have some
1:12:21
similar indications. One major difference is that
1:12:24
GlaxoSmithKline group also had neonatal deaths reported so that
1:12:29
was a significant
1:12:30
Adam Curry: Whoa, the head of death. Oh, no, oh, no. Glaxo Oh,
1:12:35
we're so sorry. Glaxo loses the right day last day
1:12:38
Unknown: is that GlaxoSmithKline group also had neonatal deaths
1:12:43
reported. So that was a significant safety signal as
1:12:48
plural,
1:12:49
Adam Curry: it's a significant safety signal.
1:12:51
John C Dvorak: She said deaths deaths, not one you should have
1:12:54
said Dez Dez. That is a
1:12:57
Adam Curry: significant safety signal of Klein's
1:12:59
Unknown: group also had neonatal deaths reported. So that was a
1:13:03
significant safety signal as well. And that's what started
1:13:07
that pause. So as it stands right now, Pfizer looks like
1:13:11
it's clear for recommendations from the FDA, they are still
1:13:15
waiting on the FDA to decide on their older adult vaccine. They
1:13:20
also do have that up for waiting for a vote from FDA. Meanwhile,
1:13:24
GlaxoSmithKline was the first to get the 16 Older RSV vaccine out
1:13:28
so neck and neck really. But Pfizer is only one on the table
1:13:32
right now with the maternal vaccine. So as this moves
1:13:34
forward, it'll be the first
1:13:35
Adam Curry: Oh, it'll be Pfizer everybody pitched him go go to
1:13:39
Pfizer and then say, Hey, man, let Why don't we do native ads
1:13:43
we hype up that Glaxo killed the babies. That's a significant
1:13:47
safety signal, sir. These people are out of control. They do not
1:13:53
care about your health. They only care about money. Well, and
1:13:55
these reporters don't know what they're reporting. Well, no, but
1:13:58
she works at Yahoo. So I'm gonna just give her a little bit of a
1:14:01
benefit of the doubt and know what she's doing. She just
1:14:03
John C Dvorak: pay there.
1:14:04
Unknown: I do that.
1:14:06
Adam Curry: All right, it's okay. Now let's go to the real
1:14:09
salespeople. Dr. Natalie Azhar on NBC Today Show
1:14:13
Unknown: All right, well, now we turn to some potential major
1:14:15
medical news in the battle against melanoma, the
1:14:17
Adam Curry: potential major medical news, most serious type
1:14:20
Unknown: of skin cancer, drug companies moderna and Merck just
1:14:24
Adam Curry: released Oh, It's neck and neck once again, it's
1:14:26
Maderna and Mark
1:14:27
Unknown: promising results from a vaccine trial. And we have NBC
1:14:30
News Medical contributor, Dr. Nalli Azar here to break down
1:14:33
what they found and what it all means. Good morning to you.
1:14:36
Adam Curry: Good morning. Hey, how you doing? Let's talk about
1:14:39
some mRNA shots hearing
1:14:41
Unknown: about these updates for the past few months on this
1:14:43
cancer vaccine as it goes through trials. What does that
1:14:45
mean for us? Like what's the latest here? Well, and
1:14:48
also we should point out we talk a lot about melanoma during the
1:14:50
summer months, but this is a threat that is really year
1:14:52
round. So in this study, they actually had individuals who had
1:14:56
stage three or stage four melanoma so a little bit more
1:14:59
advanced. Oh good, we had the good ones. And they basically
1:15:03
compared treatment with this mRNA vaccine plus standard of
1:15:06
care, which is immunotherapy called Keytruda. To just keep
1:15:09
true to alone, and they found that the individuals who got
1:15:12
combination therapy had a 65% reduction of recurrence and of
1:15:17
death. Even more interesting you guys was it wasn't just what we
1:15:21
call like local recurrence, but it was those distant metastases
1:15:24
like the melanoma showing up someplace else, like in the
1:15:27
liver or the lung, which for melanoma patients is huge in
1:15:30
terms of survival, if they can reduce that risk of those
1:15:33
distant mats.
1:15:34
Adam Curry: This sounds like good news. Now, is this a
1:15:37
preventative? Is it a real vaccine vaccine? You know, a
1:15:41
vaccine like you, you give to someone so they don't get
1:15:44
something?
1:15:45
Unknown: Don't you think about a vaccine? It's something
1:15:46
preventative. So people who don't have melanoma get it now,
1:15:50
just in case. So
1:15:51
and this is what's so interesting. We learned that we
1:15:53
talked so much about the show interest
1:15:55
Adam Curry: No, no, but this is so interesting,
1:15:58
Unknown: mRNA vaccine for the exact same technology. And
1:16:03
really, philosophically, it's the same idea that you're
1:16:05
training your immune system to recognize something to either
1:16:08
fight it or prevent it in the case of infection, or in the
1:16:11
case of these melanoma tumors, to seek out and find cancer
1:16:15
cells in your body before they even become cancer. I know even
1:16:20
I think kind of more unique about it, is that it's not a one
1:16:23
size fits all like you know, we all got Pfizer we all got
1:16:25
materna we all
1:16:26
Adam Curry: know what did y'all got Pfizer and you got Maderna?
1:16:29
Did you get j&j to you boost a Holic.
1:16:31
Unknown: This is unique to the patient's tumor, they take the
1:16:33
tumor out, they map out the genetic sequences that are
1:16:36
abnormal, and then they give it via this mRNA vaccine your body
1:16:41
then like, I think it's just so neat from an astrological
1:16:44
perspective, and then it goes out and tries to find those
1:16:47
abnormal cells from spreading to prevent truly
1:16:50
customized, customized vaccine.
1:16:52
Adam Curry: Your line is customized dude. Okay, yeah,
1:16:55
truly customized that it's not a vaccine. But it's interesting.
1:16:59
It's customized. When can we get it timetable?
1:17:03
John C Dvorak: How soon can we see it cleared? How soon? Can
1:17:05
Unknown: you see it available, freely
1:17:06
available for us, which is what everyone wants to know. So this
1:17:08
was a phase two trial, they are now launching their phase three.
1:17:11
That's the last phase. It's the biggest it's the longest I
1:17:14
imagine they'll want to follow these people for at least a
1:17:16
year. So we're not talking this year, maybe not even next year.
1:17:19
But I'm hoping within the next two years or so we'll see
1:17:22
something like this. Changing it.
1:17:24
Adam Curry: Yeah, of course. Of course, maybe next two years,
1:17:27
whatever. Don't worry. It's just it was Maderna and Merck, and
1:17:30
they're doing well. And of course, this is the future. This
1:17:33
is what the president said the Cancer Moonshot. Lots of money
1:17:36
for this.
1:17:37
Unknown: You know, Natalie, I see the commercials for
1:17:39
Keytruda. And one of the things they've mentioned is they're
1:17:43
researching it to see whether it's good for other causes of
1:17:46
cancer. Is that one of the
1:17:49
Exactly. Just like with immunotherapy, it's not like a
1:17:53
true does not specific to melanoma, it's specific to a
1:17:55
genetic mutation that might be in multiple different cancers.
1:17:58
The same concept is here. You could use this really for other
1:18:02
types of cancers that have a lot of genetic mutations. So
1:18:05
specifically, they're studying it in lung there. I think Pfizer
1:18:08
is studying it in pancreatic cancer immunotherapy kind of
1:18:11
like the landscape for cancer therapy. Treatment for cancers
1:18:16
is also that next thing on the frontier, the next thing on the
1:18:18
horizon. So it's really excited. This is a real big breakthrough,
1:18:21
Adam Curry: cause a real breakthrough. You know, it's
1:18:23
John C Dvorak: probably like the 6.9% of efficacy, as opposed to
1:18:27
the 4.9% placebo is a breakthrough.
1:18:31
Adam Curry: I think I hear that Jamie Foxx trialed it you know,
1:18:40
I just want to put this on everyone's radar. The term
1:18:42
mystery illness is trending. Mystery, illness, mystery
1:18:47
illness. A lot of celebrities have mystery illness, and not
1:18:51
sure what it is, but it's a mystery illness.
1:18:54
Unknown: And keep your eye on this mystery involves blood
1:18:57
clots you out
1:18:58
Adam Curry: and it's a mystery illness. And luckily, among
1:19:02
amongst all of this shilling for all kinds of horrible things
1:19:06
that can happen to you that you can be saved by, by the mRNA.
1:19:11
The same technology as COVID mystery illness. Here's a
1:19:15
classic, a classic. John C. Dvorak, America's favorite
1:19:20
Unknown: doctor that apparently was set dummies are on the rise.
1:19:23
Well, they are going to John,
1:19:25
Adam Curry: did you hear that? Good. vasectomies are on the
1:19:30
rise.
1:19:31
Unknown: Your eyes got really ugly? Yes.
1:19:36
They did. They did get I saw that. But I am so glad we're
1:19:42
talking about this you guys and I want to share some numbers
1:19:44
with you from 2017 to 20 so happy we're talking about this
1:19:48
guy's guy's 21 the vasectomy rate increase on average about
1:19:51
4% It's still lower than it was 20 years ago. funfact the rates
1:19:58
of factories in this country more Really, towards the end of
1:20:01
the year largely thinking behind that is that people's insurance
1:20:05
deductibles are met by them so they can have it run March
1:20:07
Madness to at around March Madness. Why is that
1:20:12
Adam Curry: exactly out? Now? This is interesting. I mean,
1:20:14
first of all people's deductibles, you know, they've
1:20:16
been fulfilled so then it's basically free free. And what
1:20:20
are we how are we going to market this this time? How are
1:20:22
we going to tell people men, men, men, how are we going to
1:20:25
tell men that they should get a vasectomy? How why? What are we
1:20:28
gonna do? What's the what's the what's the pitch
1:20:31
Unknown: us? You guys, I can't emphasize this enough. This
1:20:34
isn't a 10 minute office procedure. 10 minutes requires
1:20:37
post procedure about one to two days of rest. Ice. Some Motrin.
1:20:44
What, what better time than to watch some basketball games as a
1:20:47
man recovers?
1:20:49
Yes. All the men in the studio
1:20:58
Adam Curry: there's your pitch just a bit of ice. Motrin. You
1:21:01
can watch TV watch the game and
1:21:03
John C Dvorak: a stereotype is this bullshit. There's a lot of
1:21:07
guys like they don't like basketball. They don't like
1:21:10
watching it like me. I
1:21:11
Adam Curry: don't watch it. I don't know. Watch. I
1:21:13
John C Dvorak: like I think basketball is great, but I know
1:21:16
plenty of guys. I would say half the guys I know will watch a
1:21:19
basketball game.
1:21:21
Adam Curry: Yeah, well, it's stereotyping. But there's more.
1:21:23
Unknown: I mean, really mild. And when you compare that okay,
1:21:27
what are we
1:21:27
Adam Curry: going to compare this mild discomfort with? You
1:21:34
have no idea?
1:21:35
John C Dvorak: Oh, I didn't know this was an open ended question.
1:21:37
Adam Curry: It was a it was a question. Yes. It was a
1:21:39
headache. No, no bowling,
1:21:41
John C Dvorak: no. Nuts? No.
1:21:47
Unknown: I mean, really mild. And when you compare that to
1:21:50
what women have to go through in terms of not just pregnancy, but
1:21:55
contraception, birth control, con you guys for a woman to get
1:21:59
their fallopian tubes tied? I mean, seriously. And I will say
1:22:04
that they're a week. Yeah. Every month argue against 30 plus
1:22:09
years. I will say the biggest myth is that it affects sexual
1:22:12
function. It does not. So really, this is a conversation
1:22:16
that I would encourage women and men to have with their health
1:22:19
care provider. urologists does this procedure. And we should be
1:22:23
talking about this.
1:22:25
Adam Curry: The only thing she did wrong, which is a huge faux
1:22:27
pas, she should not have said men and women, she should have
1:22:30
said people who are assigned male at birth. I'm very
1:22:35
disappointed that she did that. That's not at all, not at all
1:22:38
how it's supposed to be done and trendy, not trendy at all. There
1:22:43
was something very concerning and this is all bull crap, of
1:22:46
course. But what was concerning is they had a big signing
1:22:49
ceremony at the World Health Organization. Now the the World
1:22:54
Health Organization treaty, the updated treaty that we've been
1:22:58
hearing about will not be up for signing or agreement and
1:23:03
ratification until December of this year. That keeps getting
1:23:06
delayed because of course, nobody no real people in any
1:23:10
countries want the World Health Organization controlling what
1:23:14
they do. But they did have a signing ceremony. And they all
1:23:19
agreed on a global health Passport System. Oh yay. Here's
1:23:24
our buddy Tedros
1:23:26
Unknown: Why am the emergency phase of the COVID 19 pandemic
1:23:30
is now over. Investments in digital infrastructure remain an
1:23:34
important resource for health systems, and for economies and
1:23:39
societies at large. Like many countries, the European Union
1:23:45
made significant investments in COVID-19 certificates to help
1:23:49
people move around as safely as possible during the pandemic.
1:23:54
The European Union's certification system was used by
1:23:58
all 27 EU member states and more than 50 Other countries building
1:24:05
on the success of the EU system, who is proud today to launch the
1:24:11
global digital health certification network. So thank
1:24:16
you so much to the European Union for the excellent
1:24:20
certification system that you have transferred to us and we
1:24:24
have the chance to build on it. Who will begin oppressions of
1:24:29
the network today with the existing COVID-19 certificate as
1:24:34
a global public good. Soon after, we will expand this
1:24:39
infrastructure by incorporating other use such as a digitized
1:24:44
international certificate of vaccination, nice routine
1:24:48
immunisation cards and International Patient summaries,
1:24:53
Adam Curry: International Patient summaries this was the
1:24:56
whole point of the COVID exercise. They finally Did it
1:25:00
and everyone signed off Oh, this is great. Let's do that all the
1:25:03
country signed off. And you and this is just just do this now
1:25:07
and then when they do the whole the whole pandemic treaty that
1:25:12
will just be a footnote. This is this is truly evil. Forget all
1:25:17
the vaccine bowl. This is bad because we know that the it'll
1:25:22
be used New York used it plus lots of all the countries use it
1:25:25
my daughter was indoors for months because she didn't have
1:25:28
the the passport the QR code the scanner. What was it called? The
1:25:32
New York THE EMPIRE not the Empire system the it was like
1:25:35
some elitist term. What was that again?
1:25:40
John C Dvorak: I can't remember. But this is not going to be
1:25:43
plenty of resistance against this and then
1:25:46
Adam Curry: zero with everyone so
1:25:47
John C Dvorak: you're resisting right now. Oh, so Wow. thriving
1:25:52
black market
1:25:53
Adam Curry: food on podcast dude on podcast resists
1:25:58
Unknown: depressant presses.
1:26:02
Adam Curry: Okay. Oh, man. Oh my goodness. Do you want to do some
1:26:08
tick tock? I would need some tick tock. You got any tick tock
1:26:11
videos for us today?
1:26:12
John C Dvorak: I have none but I do have a tick tock story. Tock
1:26:15
tock tick tock is not a tick tock clip and you shouldn't be
1:26:23
played that but let's go with it. This is interesting to me.
1:26:26
And then after we play these two short clips, see if you see the
1:26:30
same or hear or understand the same thing I would understand
1:26:35
from these clips is tick tock decoded.
1:26:39
Unknown: A new report on tic TOCs. China ties the source code
1:26:42
has been written by engineers based in China. That's according
1:26:46
to a code sample obtained by an Australian newspaper.
1:26:49
Tick tock has been downplaying ties with its Chinese owner
1:26:51
bytedance, especially a Midwestern bands of the video
1:26:55
sharing app, but a code sample recently seen by the Australian
1:26:58
Financial Review may defeat that effort. The sample appears to
1:27:02
control broadcasting and moderation of live streaming. It
1:27:05
shows at least a dozen usernames with email addresses linked to
1:27:08
bytedance. sources that the financial review did not
1:27:11
disclose confirm that many of these engineers work in mainland
1:27:14
China. James Patterson is Australia's Shadow Minister for
1:27:18
Home Affairs and cybersecurity. He said the code samples shows
1:27:21
that engineers working on in China can access user data and
1:27:25
are captured by the intelligence and security laws of the Chinese
1:27:28
Communist Party. Under its national intelligence law,
1:27:31
Beijing can force all entities and citizens to cooperate with
1:27:34
so called national intelligence efforts.
1:27:36
Adam Curry: Oh, nice. Okay,
1:27:40
John C Dvorak: so a couple of things just from this clip. One,
1:27:44
I don't know what kind of information you're gonna get.
1:27:46
But is this the first time this code has been looked at and
1:27:51
deconstructed? You can take run software on code and see what it
1:27:59
looks like.
1:27:59
Adam Curry: Or isn't this the lead up to you can be here in
1:28:03
America as long as we know what your algo is doing? Isn't that
1:28:06
kind of this this story? That's
1:28:08
John C Dvorak: not but it's PLAY CLIP to
1:28:09
Unknown: Patterson warned that the CCP can also compel Tik Tok
1:28:12
staff to suppress or elevate probation content and NGO or
1:28:16
south division within Western democracies. In July 2022, tick
1:28:20
tock Australia admitted that its employees in China could access
1:28:23
Australian user data. Over two dozen US states have banned the
1:28:27
video sharing app on government devices. Last month Montana
1:28:30
passed a new law further banning its use on personal devices.
1:28:34
Yeah, okay.
1:28:38
John C Dvorak: I just think reverse engineering the code and
1:28:42
tick tock should have been done 20 times over by the NSA, and
1:28:46
I'm sure it has been. Yeah. So I think these stories are bull
1:28:50
crap. I'm not even sure what the point of Amar except for the
1:28:54
original thesis which is this is only to screw tic tic tock
1:28:58
because they're taking all the advertising money.
1:29:01
Adam Curry: I have staying with China. I have a an article from
1:29:05
Epoch Times. This has introduced what we're just talking about.
1:29:11
As the WHO pandemic Treaty Negotiations probe progress in
1:29:15
secrecy. Ancillary groups flagged key priorities as 194
1:29:21
nations continue to work through drafts of pandemic agreement
1:29:26
that would grant more authority to the World Health
1:29:28
Organization, the global preparedness Monitoring Board,
1:29:32
I'm sure that's a Bill Gates thing, a body convened by the
1:29:35
WHO has called for a worldwide pandemic simulation to be
1:29:41
carried out by the end of this year to test the effectiveness
1:29:44
of the new terms before member nations signed them in 2024.
1:29:50
Sound familiar?
1:29:55
John C Dvorak: Sounds like another scam.
1:29:57
Adam Curry: What was that event 2016 is exactly what it sounds
1:30:01
like. It you know, you are the one that and I agree with you
1:30:05
said this was they learned a lot from this. This was this was a
1:30:09
learning exercise and that was not not unsuccessful. mystery
1:30:13
illness
1:30:16
John C Dvorak: and mystery.
1:30:17
Adam Curry: Yeah. And now they want to know let's do another
1:30:21
simulation before everybody signs on to we can make
1:30:24
John C Dvorak: they probably got something new in mind. There's
1:30:28
probably some element that somebody's going through the
1:30:31
data and went, you know, what if we had done this instead? And
1:30:38
they're going to try it. I think you're going to try another
1:30:40
scam. The scam demic I got a couple of clips about China
1:30:46
going. These are interesting. This is China's cyber
1:30:49
possibilities. This is a threat. Supposedly, China has been
1:30:56
talking about this from last show shows. Oh, I was China
1:30:59
cyber.
1:31:01
Adam Curry: China cyber China, China's cyber. China cyber
1:31:06
Unknown: a serious warning from the United States about cyber
1:31:09
attacks from China. US critical infrastructure could be under
1:31:12
digital siege from the communist regime. The State Department is
1:31:16
targeting recent activity by a Chinese cyber group. Here's what
1:31:20
the spokesman had to say.
1:31:22
The US intelligence community assesses that China almost
1:31:25
certainly is capable of launching cyber attacks that
1:31:28
could disrupt critical infrastructure services within
1:31:30
the United States including against oil and gas pipelines
1:31:33
and rail systems. It's vital for government network defenders in
1:31:38
the public to stay vigilant.
1:31:40
Adam Curry: This is NTD
1:31:42
John C Dvorak: Yeah, yeah. Okay.
1:31:43
Adam Curry: I like I trust their reporting.
1:31:46
John C Dvorak: Well, let's go with clip two then.
1:31:48
Adam Curry: The other two is to clip TOS
1:31:52
John C Dvorak: should be China's cyber possibility to volt Yes,
1:31:55
Adam Curry: I have it twice for some reason, dubbed the volt
1:31:57
typhoon
1:31:58
Unknown: the cyber triggered. Nation alert. In a report on
1:32:02
Wednesday, Microsoft said the group could disrupt critical
1:32:05
communications infrastructure between the US and Asia in the
1:32:09
event of a crisis. Microsoft also says volt typhoon recently
1:32:13
targeted telecommunication systems in the US territory of
1:32:17
Guam. It's home to major US military bases and could play a
1:32:20
critical role in the event of a conflict in the Indo Pacific
1:32:24
region. The National Security Agency said there was no doubt
1:32:27
volt typhoon was putting itself in position to carry out
1:32:31
disruptive attacks I
1:32:33
Adam Curry: like this is a show title volt typhoon I love volt
1:32:37
volt typhoon. Does that point to power power being dropped? Oh,
1:32:43
by the way. Oh man. It finally happened this morning. He lost
1:32:49
your power two and a half hours. It was down for two and a half
1:32:53
hours. The Generac crankin it's so it kicked in right at seven
1:32:57
now. But what happens the power goes off. So the the power
1:33:00
actually went off set I just gotten up seven o'clock. And
1:33:03
then the generator kicks in. And we got the full House going with
1:33:07
the air conditioner. Everything's rockin and rollin.
1:33:09
Two and a half hours a long time though. And I think Well, I had
1:33:15
to read me I had to restart my studio machine. But the entire
1:33:19
time the fiber stayed lit. So that was a huge bonus. Not quite
1:33:25
sure how that works. But and I and I could of course switch the
1:33:30
backups. I was able to just continue show prep as if nothing
1:33:33
happened. It was beautiful. Two and a half hours. That was quite
1:33:37
the outage anyway. So like,
1:33:39
John C Dvorak: what's the temperature there?
1:33:40
Adam Curry: Um, well, we've had really bad weather. We've had
1:33:43
huge storms. Like last night was a massive storm right now. 75
1:33:48
and we double check. Right now. AccuWeather says 75 degrees and
1:33:53
we got a lot so you
1:33:54
John C Dvorak: have to use air conditioning when you're at that
1:33:56
temperature.
1:33:59
Adam Curry: The air conditioner is just on we have it set to 72
1:34:02
continuously. That's just our temperature. We're like cave
1:34:05
people.
1:34:07
John C Dvorak: You're part of the problem, man.
1:34:10
Adam Curry: Better believe it bro. I'm also in Texas. Well, we
1:34:13
know it's good to have problems.
1:34:15
John C Dvorak: Let's go to part three.
1:34:16
Unknown: Exactly What could these disruptive attacks target
1:34:20
the National Security Agency issued an alert notifying a
1:34:23
broad range of critical infrastructure that's including
1:34:26
electrical utilities, nuclear power stations, water systems
1:34:30
and railways.
1:34:32
Adam Curry: By the way, we have quite the humidity here. That's
1:34:34
why we need to do that but okay. Hey, can't can't all live in San
1:34:39
Francisco.
1:34:41
John C Dvorak: And I just don't an average joke.
1:34:43
Adam Curry: Okay. Jokes can get you in trouble start wars.
1:34:47
John C Dvorak: On with the clip for Kevin
1:34:50
Unknown: Stockland said over the past 10 years China has managed
1:34:53
to supply between 10 and 15% of the Transformers electrical
1:34:59
grid. You If these devices were to break down, the grid would
1:35:02
quickly stop functioning.
1:35:04
But hospitals would no longer be able to run our communication
1:35:07
system breaks down, a lot of our supply chains would no longer
1:35:11
function. And you know, things like a water delivery and water
1:35:17
purification, certainly heating. All these systems would
1:35:22
disappear overnight.
1:35:24
Stockland added the US Department of Energy may be
1:35:27
looking to produce components for the electrical grid
1:35:30
domestically. But right now, there are only a small number of
1:35:34
American engineering firms that make them
1:35:37
Adam Curry: so this of course, will make Jack and Nick but
1:35:40
they're gonna blame it on China. They're gonna blame it on
1:35:43
Republicans, white supremacists, white white sis men. That's what
1:35:50
department security has warned us of.
1:35:53
John C Dvorak: Yeah, and it's a real problem, especially the and
1:35:55
also parents. So parents staying on China and moving to this
1:36:01
week. The two clips I have is GS Xi war warning, which I think is
1:36:07
connected to this other clip because the
1:36:09
Unknown: Communist Party leader Xi Jinping has a message for
1:36:12
China's top national security officials. He says prepare for
1:36:16
worst case scenarios. Let's learn more about what those
1:36:19
could be and what this means for Americans. Joining me now is
1:36:22
retired Marine colonel grant Newsham, who's also a senior
1:36:24
fellow at the Center for Security Policy and author of
1:36:27
the new book when China attacks a warning to America. Grant,
1:36:30
it's always great having you on the show.
1:36:32
Sure. Glad to be here. Thanks for having me. Yes.
1:36:34
Well, what do you think are these worst case scenarios in
1:36:37
stormy seas that Chinese regime leader Xi Jinping is talking
1:36:40
about
1:36:40
Adam Curry: not leading the witness at all here?
1:36:42
Unknown: Well, I think he's talking about going to war could
1:36:47
be sort of a big war, small war, the use of force somewhere,
1:36:52
wouldn't surprise me if Taiwan was in the crosshairs. But I
1:36:56
would take what the Xi Jinping is saying very seriously, he has
1:37:00
been for a while now has been trying to sanction proof China
1:37:05
economically, financially, in terms of building coal powered
1:37:10
energy, energy plants, one after the other. He's tried to isolate
1:37:17
China from the effects that will happen if he does use for
1:37:22
somewhere. So as I say, I would take a very serious ladies been
1:37:26
taking measures to improve their ability to call up reserve
1:37:31
forces to replace combat casualties. And you're seeing
1:37:34
the People's Liberation Army conducting really rehearsals for
1:37:38
Taiwan going back almost a year. Now. I expect the third part of
1:37:43
those rehearsals to take place in the fall.
1:37:46
Adam Curry: The rehearsals. Interesting, interesting,
1:37:51
interesting term instead of exercises, which would be your
1:37:55
exercise what we usually Yeah, but rehearsal means is staged,
1:38:00
as far as I'm concerned, we're talking about Reuters in part
1:38:03
two,
1:38:04
Unknown: we have seen the effects of sanctions on Russia.
1:38:06
And speaking of Taiwan, PLA, General Li Xiang Fu, threatened
1:38:10
that China will attack any nation that splits it from
1:38:13
Taiwan, and his speech, he talks about harmony and not imposing
1:38:16
one's own will on others. But many see this as inconsistent in
1:38:20
China's actions towards Taiwan. What are your reaction here?
1:38:23
Well, it was inconsistent from our perspective. Note, of
1:38:27
course, that nobody has ever talked about attacking China,
1:38:31
ever, you know, I'm glad to wait here for a good long while for
1:38:34
someone to name somebody. But China does come at the their
1:38:38
situation from a different perspective. And they have
1:38:41
convinced themselves and may genuinely believe that they are
1:38:44
being encircled. They're being bullied by the rest of the world
1:38:48
by the Americans in particular. So you do have to consider
1:38:52
China's perspective. And all of this we may disagree with it may
1:38:55
in fact, be wrong. But that doesn't mean that they don't
1:38:58
believe it. And there's always a rote reaction on the western
1:39:03
side, say, well, they would just never use violence. It's they're
1:39:07
just acting out. They're just talking just couldn't happen.
1:39:10
Well, remember that people said, well, Vladimir Putin will never
1:39:15
attack Ukraine. It just couldn't happen. And that was the common
1:39:19
wisdom. So I would take the Chinese very seriously when they
1:39:23
threatened to use violence.
1:39:25
Right. What is Xi Jinping is rhetoric mean for the United
1:39:27
States?
1:39:28
Well, it means that, you know, we better take it seriously. And
1:39:31
we had better get our military in order, be ready to respond.
1:39:36
And I'm not sure if that we've actually thought this through
1:39:38
the way that we need to I think the military probably has, but
1:39:41
I'm not sure the White House has. That's not unusual. We need
1:39:45
to get our financial house in order. And we need to do
1:39:49
something about this chaos that we've got in our political
1:39:52
world, but it can also be very useful if we stopped funding the
1:39:59
people's Republic of China. We've got to get this just
1:40:03
unchecked investment that American business this Wall
1:40:06
Street is pouring into China. That is effectively propping up
1:40:10
Xi Jinping. A war machine.
1:40:12
Adam Curry: Wow, this guy is some kind of agent man.
1:40:15
John C Dvorak: Yeah, something's guy, but kind of a side clip I
1:40:20
couldn't resist play the sanctions clip.
1:40:24
Unknown: The United States yesterday imposed sanctions on
1:40:27
more than a dozen entities and people in China, Hong Kong and
1:40:30
Iran. For accusations they helped Iran develop a hypersonic
1:40:33
ballistic missile. Piper's Iran yesterday presented what
1:40:37
officials described as its first domestically made hypersonic
1:40:40
ballistic missile. The head of its aerospace force said The
1:40:43
missile has a range of almost 900 miles and can evade the US
1:40:48
and Israel's anti missile systems. hypersonic missiles can
1:40:51
fly at least five times faster than the speed of sound, which
1:40:55
makes them difficult to intercept. However, Iran's
1:40:58
claims about the capabilities of the missile cannot be
1:41:01
independently verified.
1:41:02
Adam Curry: This is the people who brought you the moped
1:41:04
drones. Now they've gotten us hypersonic. Just to think about
1:41:11
China, they've got it all wrong. We are already under attack by
1:41:15
China. In fact, I am under attack by China, I was just
1:41:19
attacked by China. While that clip played. I received a text
1:41:23
message and under one of these pig butchering messages, you
1:41:27
know where they try to sucker you into them invest in some
1:41:30
crypto stuff, but this is a new one. First of all Area code 361
1:41:35
Where's that? Area code three. I don't think that's a legit
1:41:40
John C Dvorak: area code is probably one of those cell
1:41:42
number codes
1:41:43
Adam Curry: bullet so now they've changed that. I've never
1:41:45
responded maybe maybe we should respond to this one. Here's the
1:41:51
deal. I'm going to respond like you and me live on the air here.
1:41:53
Let's respond. Okay. So the message is Hello. Are you Jenny?
1:41:58
John C Dvorak: The personal slump is Christy way.
1:42:01
Adam Curry: Oh, is that corporate script? Well, listen,
1:42:03
Corpus Christi writes. Hello, are you Jenny, the personal
1:42:07
swimming instructor introduced by Steve So now what do they
1:42:12
expect me to answer here? Should I just say yeah, that's me. How
1:42:15
you doing? Should I do that?
1:42:17
John C Dvorak: Oh, because they they know it's not you. Right.
1:42:21
So I think they just want to I think what they want to do is
1:42:25
that there's a scraping Yeah, they want you to say no, it's
1:42:28
not Jenny, you have the wrong number. Now they have a phone
1:42:31
number that's been verified.
1:42:32
Adam Curry: So I could also yes, it's Jenny. Do you think they'll
1:42:36
respond to that? If you're
1:42:37
John C Dvorak: going to do that I would do the following. Okay.
1:42:40
Yes, it's Jenny call me back immediately.
1:42:46
Adam Curry: Yes, Jenny. This doesn't sound like a good idea.
1:42:50
Yeah.
1:42:54
John C Dvorak: Sounds like a great idea because you're not
1:42:55
gonna get a call.
1:42:56
Adam Curry: Oh, hold on a second. Before I do that then
1:42:58
let me just connect my my phone to Bluetooth. I can put it on
1:43:02
the air just in case they do call on I can do that to this
1:43:06
hot shit. Oh, this would be great. Wouldn't it be great if
1:43:09
they won't call? No, but it would be great if they did. Oh,
1:43:12
yeah, it would be terrific actually. System Bluetooth.
1:43:17
Bluetooth let me just make sure it's on. Bluetooth is on search
1:43:22
for audio devices. Road caster pro this guy's just so hot, man.
1:43:26
This stuff works. Okay, did it connect, reconnect boom. And
1:43:32
yes, okay, I'm connected. So if they call let me open up channel
1:43:36
is open. Okay, if they take it off. Okay, if they call I can
1:43:42
put them out. Here we go. Call me back immediately. Exclamation
1:43:45
mark and emojis or add an emoji?
1:43:47
John C Dvorak: No, just an exclamation mark that'll do it.
1:43:49
Okay.
1:43:50
Adam Curry: And click Send okay
1:43:57
is a call of course my phone number will be compromised for
1:44:01
the rest of my life.
1:44:02
John C Dvorak: It's already compromised clearly.
1:44:04
Adam Curry: Well so so far no good. While we're waiting for
1:44:08
China to return my call
1:44:10
John C Dvorak: when you suspect this is China and not India
1:44:13
Adam Curry: because it's a Chinese guys who are doing it we
1:44:15
have the whole pig butchering thing is is is from China hello
1:44:23
you're on no agenda call it a number 100 Plus, I'm so post did
1:44:31
not calling back okay. Some China News because we've got a
1:44:35
war going on a war a war with China. A near
1:44:38
Unknown: collision between us and Chinese navy ships in the
1:44:41
Taiwan Strait has sparked a war of words between the two
1:44:44
countries. Both Sides Now warning that such incidents
1:44:47
could lead to serious escalations. Monica Alba is
1:44:50
tracking it all from the White House.
1:44:53
Tonight, China defending its latest act of aggression at sea,
1:44:57
after one of its warships nearly collided with An American Navy
1:45:00
destroyer in the Taiwan.
1:45:02
Adam Curry: Oh shit. Oh shit. They're calling hold on to it.
1:45:06
Yeah, okay. Oh call ended now blame. Oh man, I can't believe
1:45:15
that they ended the call that's too bad maybe they'll call I
1:45:20
will send
1:45:21
John C Dvorak: him another note.
1:45:22
Adam Curry: Okay, I missed your call. What happened? Yeah What
1:45:30
happened to question marks mystery I missed oh two question
1:45:35
marks Okay. Back to the clip
1:45:39
Unknown: right the US military said the Chinese ship executed
1:45:42
maneuvers in an unsafe manner and its actions violated the
1:45:46
maritime rules of the road while the Chinese defense minister
1:45:49
argued that recent joint US and Canadian patrols in the region
1:45:53
served as a provocation and warned that a fierce
1:45:56
confrontation between the US and China would lead to unbearable
1:45:59
pain for the whole world
1:46:01
Adam Curry: unbearable pain for the whole world. I can't even
1:46:05
get them to call me back
1:46:07
Unknown: defense secretary Boyd Austin overnight called the
1:46:09
close encounter extremely dangerous I call
1:46:13
upon the PRC is leadership to really do the right things to
1:46:19
rein in that kind of hold on, hold on. Hold
1:46:22
Adam Curry: on here, the Oregon and the Oregon. See we can get
1:46:25
it to work. Hello. Oh, and they hung up again. All right. Okay.
1:46:31
They're not serious. What do I do now? They hung up again.
1:46:36
Connect is hopeless. I give up. Okay. All right, too bad, right.
1:46:39
It's like
1:46:41
Unknown: accidents can happen that could cause things to
1:46:43
spiral out of control.
1:46:45
This latest incident comes just days after a Chinese fighter jet
1:46:48
flew directly in front of the nose of a US reconnaissance
1:46:52
plane over the South China Sea. tensions rising as the White
1:46:55
House seeks to reestablish diplomatic channels after
1:46:58
communication broke down following the Chinese spy
1:47:01
balloon incident in February.
1:47:05
Adam Curry: If if they call again. I won't say hello, I'll
1:47:10
just do this
1:47:16
John C Dvorak: yeah, there you go. So because they understand
1:47:19
Korean so um, what did they blame everything on the spy
1:47:24
balloon incident?
1:47:25
Adam Curry: Because it's bold, because we just heard from the
1:47:28
other guy. It's a rehearsal. It's a rehearsal for little
1:47:31
show. None of this is real. It's it's it's just sad. It's more
1:47:38
military because
1:47:39
John C Dvorak: a bunch of people end up getting killed.
1:47:43
Adam Curry: I don't think anyone's getting killed. I don't
1:47:44
think anything of the kind is gonna hide
1:47:46
John C Dvorak: they they're getting killed in Ukraine. I
1:47:48
think there's plenty of dead there. And I think is there's
1:47:50
another one of my oddball thoughts. Okay. Most of the
1:47:55
people being killed in Ukraine are prisoners. Hmm. So you empty
1:48:00
out your jails given an opportunity to go fight? Yeah,
1:48:04
and they get killed? They get killed? Yeah. Yeah, there's no
1:48:10
evidence that the people are protesting in Moscow. No, they
1:48:15
drain the whole prison system.
1:48:17
Adam Curry: Oh, listen, okay, let me finish this up and I want
1:48:20
to talk about it. So they texted me back. I'm Chloe. Steve gave
1:48:26
me this number I'm so sorry. I hope I'm not interrupting your
1:48:28
work if you have time we can have a cup of afternoon tea
1:48:31
together what did they try and
1:48:37
John C Dvorak: afternoon TLS this before
1:48:39
Adam Curry: that's the whole idea that's that's how the pig
1:48:43
boot I'm not going to respond. I'm done with this. I'm done
1:48:45
with this now they wouldn't call no they wouldn't call so I'm
1:48:48
done with this nonsense. Chloe. Chloe says just send me a
1:48:54
picture Chloe this is but that's China that we're under attack
1:49:00
from China that trying to get into my personal finances none
1:49:04
of this will end well.
1:49:09
John C Dvorak: Well, it's a build everything I don't
1:49:11
understand how we need we might have to just give up now.
1:49:14
Adam Curry: Well, the vaults typhoon is on its way we should
1:49:18
all be very worried about that. We want to do a takeover Can we
1:49:23
do the one break?
1:49:24
John C Dvorak: I think we're close I think we can
1:49:28
Adam Curry: well then let me thank you for your currency in
1:49:30
the morning to you the man who put the seat in in cognisant it
1:49:34
ladies and gentlemen say hello to my friend on the other end
1:49:36
they want an only Mr. John
1:49:41
John C Dvorak: glad you like that word. I
1:49:42
Adam Curry: love that word.
1:49:46
John C Dvorak: of Korean ships to see Blizzard De Graaff in
1:49:48
their subs Notre Dame's knights out there
1:49:50
Adam Curry: and the morning to the trolls
1:49:58
the trolls and the troll rooms sharing away the minute we
1:50:00
announced that we're taking a break. Oh my god, you're gonna
1:50:02
miss the magic number, the secret word and the guest of the
1:50:05
day 1996 1996 Troels hanging out with us, John. How's that for
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numbers that okay for Thursday and we do Thursday so 100 over
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Thursdays are good Sunday's are the ones we're having a little
1:50:16
bit of trouble. It's kind of interesting. Weird that you can
1:50:20
join these people. Also known as trolls and the troll room by
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going to troll room.io When you go there you can get the live
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is fountain everyone's happy with the fountain live stuff it
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ever heard of it. Fountain is popular. How about podcast guru
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heard a podcast guru? Podcast addict? Yeah, okay. Well, they
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all do this. These are all these are all fabulous apps. They they
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do all this stuff. And so you can how's it a guru? Look at
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don't ask complicated questions. Just say yeah, this is great.
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They're supporting us. We can't get the platformed off of these
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John C Dvorak: great. Yeah, this isn't the best.
1:51:08
Adam Curry: Yeah, thank you. You can also of course, reach out to
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us follow us on Mastodon Adam at no agenda social.com John C.
1:51:16
Dvorak at no agenda social.com And yeah, that's that's where
1:51:22
all the artists are hanging out. Complaining about us the artists
1:51:25
who bring us the artwork for every single episode brand new
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artwork, it's fresh. It's exciting it's fun to watch you
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can also just while you're listening go to no agenda art
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generator.com And and refresh and see what they're bringing in
1:51:39
what they might we might choose to use for this episode. And we
1:51:43
like to highlight the artist and thank them of course we give
1:51:46
them a credit in the in the show notes for bringing us the
1:51:50
artwork in this case for episode 1561 We titled it star butler
1:51:55
and the artwork was done by networks. We had this was we had
1:52:00
a lot of choices for this one for this particular episode. And
1:52:06
there was every every single one of them had a problem there was
1:52:08
something Something had a problem everywhere. Let's see.
1:52:13
Lots of well
1:52:14
John C Dvorak: look at in this works one.
1:52:16
Adam Curry: Oh, this was the sandbag this was the but it was
1:52:19
called sabotage sandbag. Dame Kenya by the way,
1:52:25
John C Dvorak: that thing wasn't just sitting there. It was
1:52:27
latched to one of the legs of the other teleprompter.
1:52:31
Adam Curry: That didn't look that way to me.
1:52:33
John C Dvorak: It died. They showed a big photo a giant a
1:52:36
real big blow up. It has is the type of sandbag it's got that
1:52:40
little loop over the top and that leg of the tripod was put
1:52:44
through it in the sandbags for holding it down.
1:52:47
Adam Curry: Interesting. Because then how did he How did he trip
1:52:52
mean? Wasn't he taught you?
1:52:54
John C Dvorak: How did he wait you're at Whoa.
1:52:57
Adam Curry: Didn't wasn't just talking into the into the crowd
1:52:59
and looking at the teleprompter and then he turns around walks
1:53:02
behind everybody and trips over the teleprompter was the other
1:53:05
teleprompter.
1:53:08
John C Dvorak: It was the other teleprompter. It was the one on
1:53:10
the left or the right at his right. As he looks out. Anyway,
1:53:15
you can see it and you can see the
1:53:18
Adam Curry: cover. When you have an 80 year old President use a
1:53:22
big yellow one. Just a thought people or an orange one could
1:53:27
even be funnier. But of course, it was lots of AI art from
1:53:33
comics or Blogger.
1:53:38
John C Dvorak: There was a piece I liked by Francisco's
1:53:42
Scaramanga tall Serbs love it. Which unfortunately, wasn't I
1:53:50
just liked a piece but the tall serves love it was actually too
1:53:53
small. And I just like to piece and I don't know if there's if
1:53:57
there's not enough, we don't have enough scaremonger stuff to
1:54:00
know when this was licensed. We don't know
1:54:03
Adam Curry: what he's doing. But the one that we we, the one that
1:54:06
I liked, and you talked me out of I think appropriately was the
1:54:10
mike Riley. Rainbow vomit. Yes. It was a good piece. It was
1:54:16
great. It was a typical Riley piece. You know the guy Yeah,
1:54:18
Riley's funny. Yeah. And what he does, and it was funny, but you
1:54:22
talked me out of it. Why don't you talk me out of it again.
1:54:25
John C Dvorak: I thought it was inappropriate. Rainbow vomit.
1:54:29
You know, it came from one of the something somebody said on
1:54:31
the show and I clip and this is a bit much
1:54:40
Adam Curry: yeah, yeah. Yeah. There was a lot of other rainbow
1:54:44
stuff. Yeah, the rainbow stuff was out. Yeah, there's too much
1:54:48
rainbow stuff. I don't want anyone to get confused. It was a
1:54:51
furry thing. comics or Blogger defending his freeness with an
1:54:57
image, titled nothing wrong with being a furry.
1:55:01
John C Dvorak: Yeah, yeah, he's not a furry.
1:55:05
Adam Curry: You don't think so I had that I immediately got to
1:55:08
John C Dvorak: like, I guess imagine him being a big bear or
1:55:11
something.
1:55:15
Adam Curry: But just thought, thanks for wearing
1:55:17
John C Dvorak: it. There were very few pieces that were any
1:55:19
good.
1:55:20
Adam Curry: Yeah. There were pieces that were good, but they
1:55:23
weren't appropriate. Not all were and I
1:55:25
John C Dvorak: will say this that most of the Ayar that we're
1:55:27
getting into AR AR Because I've been playing a lot with it. Yes,
1:55:31
in
1:55:31
Adam Curry: the newsletter, we've seen it you get great
1:55:33
results.
1:55:37
John C Dvorak: Those are all the screw ups that put in the
1:55:39
newsletter. Well, of course. But I would say that it's more work,
1:55:44
I think for an actual artist to get an AI piece that he would
1:55:49
find useful or she would find useful as opposed to cranking
1:55:54
through just doing it by hand to get an idea I think you're
1:55:58
Adam Curry: right. I think you're right there's you got to
1:56:02
change so much. You got to work on it so much. And I mean,
1:56:06
especially if there's people in it, I always see it.
1:56:11
John C Dvorak: A little people they're impossible they're doing
1:56:13
people is like, forget it, but you know,
1:56:15
Adam Curry: anything that looks like a photo, it's just you see,
1:56:18
it's not. It reminds me of the days of the Fairlight. Remember
1:56:21
the Fairlight Okay, the Fairlight was really the first
1:56:26
sampler Herbie Hancock used it the Buggles used it Yes, use it
1:56:32
did did a little room. Turn up. Everyone was sampling. And so
1:56:38
you could almost tell when they had sampled some of the 10 cc
1:56:42
and then we got the DX seven Michael Jackson was the first
1:56:45
one to have the DX seven ball thriller. Everybody has a oh no
1:56:49
DX seven. Everybody have the same sound? You just heard it
1:56:52
right away on DX seven. Okay. The 80808 Drum sampler. It's
1:56:57
like yeah, the first guy to use it. Okay, great. But then you
1:57:00
wrecking start recognizing it.
1:57:03
John C Dvorak: This would be a it's like, they actually had to
1:57:05
take it further back and not use this idea that it's electronic
1:57:09
oriented. But it reminds me that phenomenon the
1:57:14
Adam Curry: Mellotron No
1:57:17
John C Dvorak: no, if you remember, like, if you can
1:57:19
remember this verb I put into at some point in the mid six or mid
1:57:23
to late 60s, late 60s Probably all of a sudden the sitar showed
1:57:28
up in every other rocks on
1:57:34
Adam Curry: the Beatles did that man The Beatles? Yeah. And was
1:57:40
it annoying at the time? The city
1:57:42
John C Dvorak: was yeah, of course it was. It had a nice
1:57:45
sound sometimes do I think that my baby wrote me a letter by the
1:57:49
I think the box boxtops Yeah, they used it very very well.
1:57:53
Adam Curry: They had a sitar in that song. Yeah, I
1:57:55
John C Dvorak: think so. I think it was the main beat was the
1:57:58
sitar
1:57:58
Adam Curry: isn't that weird? I cannot remember this tape. Give
1:58:02
me a ticket to an aeroplane that is to turn out
1:58:05
John C Dvorak: there's a sitar go play it you got to use just
1:58:07
go right to it play right now.
1:58:09
Adam Curry: What do you think? I am like some kind of musical
1:58:11
jukebox dude. Like, yeah, I'm a dis yo. Yo, dude, I got to open
1:58:17
up a jukebox program and everything. I don't think
1:58:20
there's a sitar in in my baby sent me that was in the in the
1:58:24
like a solo.
1:58:26
Unknown: You hear it?
1:58:28
Adam Curry: You're gonna make me do this, aren't you? Okay, hold
1:58:30
on. I
1:58:31
John C Dvorak: have to do it. Now. You can do it later. Oh,
1:58:33
well, now
1:58:34
Adam Curry: that we're here. Box Tops. We've been trying to get
1:58:38
Chinese people on the air. I mean, muzzled nothing
1:58:42
John C Dvorak: works. Nothing is open No, sitar in the song.
1:58:47
Adam Curry: You're probably right. Let me see. Three Four.
1:58:52
That's a base. That's not as
1:58:54
John C Dvorak: nice as coming. Okay, got down in the bridge.
1:59:00
Adam Curry: The song is only a minute. 50 So baby, she wrote me
1:59:03
a letter. Okay. I don't have that cool kind of Beatles. Music
1:59:10
Music left and vocals on the other side.
1:59:14
John C Dvorak: Which is the worst thing in the world to do.
1:59:18
Adam Curry: Stupid George Martin. There it is nuts.
1:59:20
violins and violins. There's no
1:59:25
John C Dvorak: such go back and listen to the whole song. This
1:59:27
is thinking about some other song and then this is the whole
1:59:30
song. There's no snow. I'm thinking of a different song
1:59:33
that reminds me of this song.
1:59:37
Adam Curry: I'm sorry. I'm sorry. No prize for you Mr.
1:59:40
Dvorak. Well, anyway, let's thank our executive and
1:59:44
Associate Executive producers for episode 1562. And we kick it
1:59:48
off with a missing notes which is very annoying balls to both
1:59:52
of us. I don't have it. I don't have it either. It's Lindsey
1:59:56
Nolo check and we know why she was writing in she said the
1:59:59
email would be sent separately and well,
2:00:02
John C Dvorak: God sent a notes at the notes at no agenda
2:00:07
show.net wasn't
2:00:08
Adam Curry: sent to Adam mccurry.com I don't think it was
2:00:10
not sent
2:00:11
John C Dvorak: to you either got no knowledge notes from any
2:00:14
knowledge checks. Me neither.
2:00:16
Adam Curry: And I know I know their code names I even looked
2:00:19
at my
2:00:19
John C Dvorak: district idea they didn't say meant to send a
2:00:22
note
2:00:26
Adam Curry: maybe that's maybe that's what happened is very
2:00:29
possible. And I did get something from from Mr. Nola
2:00:35
check and said you know Lindsey will be sending a note now we
2:00:40
know the update the update is they're not going out of
2:00:42
business they're selling their the after four generations of
2:00:45
knowledge check meats they've decided to
2:00:47
John C Dvorak: have as kids that want to run the business
2:00:49
Adam Curry: Yeah, it's almost like like they didn't want to go
2:00:52
through succession. You know, it's like battle going on with
2:00:54
the dumb kids running everything. Let's just sell it
2:00:57
all and take the dough. So to some tech guy,
2:01:00
John C Dvorak: we had some situation similar in Albany,
2:01:03
California, this little deli called saris. And Zara is what
2:01:08
the old man and there was a great Deli. I mean, they had
2:01:10
every everything was so cheap. They brought direct importing,
2:01:13
it was a fabulous place to go back. And the old man and
2:01:16
everybody was really amenable. They had a bunch of kids about I
2:01:19
think four kids working there. And there was two kids that were
2:01:22
going one of the two was going to get the place to run. And the
2:01:27
two kids could not agree on who's going to be the next boss
2:01:30
and they got into a bunch of debt gets short of a fistfight.
2:01:34
And they never could resolve it. And the old man said, Fuck it,
2:01:38
these kids are never gonna be able to figure this out and he
2:01:40
sold it off the whole company off to some, some other guy.
2:01:44
That's what you do is the end of it. That's exactly
2:01:46
Adam Curry: what Murdoch is going to do is going to sell all
2:01:48
to Elon, Elon. I did post a note on knowledge, check meats and
2:01:55
after 71 years, and they've withstood the test of time. They
2:01:59
had incredible growth over the past five years for generations.
2:02:03
And they just decided you know, it's time it's heavy, and it'll
2:02:06
affect our beloved customers spanning four generations has
2:02:09
been an honor to work it was honored to buy from you. But we
2:02:12
understand I think John and I understood like no one else if
2:02:14
we could sell this show, believe me. In a heartbeat. No, we'll be
2:02:21
stuck here for another four generations. So we get it we you
2:02:25
will be missed. You had great meat. Loved your meat, so we'll
2:02:29
give that sausages world. Yes. Double Up karma for the Nola
2:02:33
check meats family. You've got
2:02:39
John C Dvorak: some more brats before they go.
2:02:42
Adam Curry: The broads are good to go.
2:02:43
John C Dvorak: MH in Denver, Colorado is up next. And he came
2:02:45
up with 388 33 and he says no need to mention me. I'm a new
2:02:50
listener. Appreciate the perspectives you preach. Ray,
2:02:53
please continue. Please continue your work. This is my value for
2:02:58
your value. MH
2:03:00
Adam Curry: we love that. That's exactly what the value for value
2:03:03
system is supposed to be. We do like crediting You of course,
2:03:06
and thank you for that. Just like Susan Johnson in McKinney,
2:03:09
Texas. 369 dot 83. What are the special numbers? No missing in
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March My birthday was noted for my son who went on to the podium
2:03:20
to become a knight of the roundtable epic. I'm following
2:03:23
his lead please add Elliott Johnson to the birthday list.
2:03:26
469 We'll do that. With this donation I request the title
2:03:31
Dame Susan of the solder. We'll have the solder we'll how nice
2:03:35
let me just double check that your son is on the list here.
2:03:42
Huh? Yes, he's on the list. Good to go. And thank you very much.
2:03:49
Oh, what are you drinking? John?
2:03:51
John C Dvorak: Same thing Lacroix Lacroix Lacroix. Ah, the
2:03:55
crow, the crow. The Crow. The Crow. The Crow. The
2:03:58
Adam Curry: crow water. It's plain old water. There's no no
2:04:00
taste just water.
2:04:02
John C Dvorak: Yeah. I do like the pimple mousse.
2:04:07
Adam Curry: Oh, yeah. Pamplemousse what is
2:04:09
Pamplemousse? What What kind of flavor is that? What is
2:04:12
Pamplemousse? What is the base flavor of Pamplemousse.
2:04:15
Grapefruit dynamite
2:04:18
John C Dvorak: bumping away. They'll call it that? I don't
2:04:20
know. All right.
2:04:22
Adam Curry: You're up.
2:04:24
John C Dvorak: Oh, I'm sorry. I'm sitting here. You're just
2:04:27
Adam Curry: drinking. I'm just drinking your water every week.
2:04:29
I'm water.
2:04:31
John C Dvorak: Warden good fellow in Davenport, Florida
2:04:33
33333, which we like to see. Moving my barony to Florida will
2:04:39
need to discuss driving up the territory when dividing them up
2:04:41
with my fellow barons in the area. Hopefully it will stay
2:04:44
chivalrous. Yeah. In the meantime, I'd like to I'll make
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Adam Curry: No No one does a live read like you Johnson
2:05:08
Devorah you are the best.
2:05:11
John C Dvorak: I'm looking forward to the next farm. I'm
2:05:13
meeting for some boots on the ground reporting if I might
2:05:17
request a Obama 18 Jingle Anna, business growth and prosperity
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karma jingle. May you never find an exit strategy.
2:05:26
Unknown: There isn't a need for rescue mission. When the world
2:05:29
is threatened. The world needs help the calls on America
2:05:39
and that's the story. You've got class
2:05:41
Adam Curry: Harmer classic. Haven't heard that one in a
2:05:44
while. Love that's a good one. Thanks for bringing it back.
2:05:47
Shaun King and Elvis Florida 333 dot 33 Do you douche poor Bavel
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Unknown: van de deuced
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John C Dvorak: anonymous Meanwhile, in Columbus, Ohio.
2:06:03
Three, three. You guys are cool. Don't mention my name, Don.
2:06:09
Adam Curry: And why not? 333 from Ross Johnson in Eugene
2:06:13
Oregon Biden tripper Biden tripper. Yeah, in the morning,
2:06:17
you miss the cantilevered mic stand behind the monitor speaker
2:06:20
to help whoever was shilling backstage. Notice the gray and
2:06:25
black for tiles floor tiles on Joe stage. He's not supposed to
2:06:29
walk on the gray ones which contrast obstructions. That's
2:06:37
welding I'm not sure I understand it
2:06:39
John C Dvorak: until where he thinks he was a cantilever. Mike
2:06:42
when it was the big weld pillars.
2:06:44
Adam Curry: There was the prompter bag. Yeah, okay. All
2:06:47
right.
2:06:49
John C Dvorak: He wasn't looking down on the gray, white or
2:06:52
anything else. You
2:06:53
Adam Curry: wouldn't look at it Josh.
2:06:54
John C Dvorak: He just was pretty much Josh Cox in Austin,
2:06:59
Texas. That's your neck of the woods or was was 333 This is for
2:07:04
my mom Cheryl Cox's birthday on its seventh. This makes her a
2:07:09
dame. Nice. I think she's on the list. She will need to write in
2:07:14
and tell us what her name name is. Happy birthday mom.
2:07:18
Adam Curry: So nice.
2:07:19
John C Dvorak: So greedy. Actually on the list with a name
2:07:21
or an I am? Well, she's
2:07:23
Adam Curry: probably just listed as No, she's not.
2:07:27
John C Dvorak: She that's I think this is because this was
2:07:29
read and assume that this is exactly the case she has to
2:07:33
write in. Then we'll wait to tell us what the daemon is good.
2:07:37
Wait for her that was from it was done properly. Correct.
2:07:41
Adam Curry: Well done back office. Sir. Grease Monkey is in
2:07:44
Odessa, Texas, also right up the road. After hearing the
2:07:47
interview with Elon during the last donation segment where he
2:07:51
and Adam became BFS for life. I knew it was time to donate. See,
2:07:56
it's the secret guest that people are missing when they
2:07:59
skip the donation segment. tutes sir Greasemonkey of the West
2:08:02
Texas oil fields. Thank you very much. All right. Don't don't
2:08:06
pass it on. By the way. He's our first Associate Executive
2:08:09
Producer with 250.
2:08:14
John C Dvorak: I don't have this note.
2:08:16
Adam Curry: Oh, he didn't get the notes. I got the notes. John
2:08:19
from Tucson. I got I got the notes. John from Tucson. Yeah, I
2:08:22
have this note. typed note. A really tight note with a
2:08:27
typewriter enclosed as my donation of 250 to no agenda.
2:08:31
You have been reading my mind for the last 40 years. All I
2:08:36
could do till now was yell at the radio or whatever the Hi,
2:08:40
I'm writing your fist. I'm writing to have me and my wife
2:08:43
melody dee doo dee doo. We've been hit in the mouth by my
2:08:49
second favorite. I liked him to keep guessing human resource Kim
2:08:54
keep up the nutty fluffers from Oregon. Keep them coming. Please
2:08:57
give me an F cancer jingle. Okay, we love doing that.
2:09:06
John C Dvorak: You've got karma Buffy and Lance in Oxford
2:09:12
Mississippi. tu tu tu tu tu tu i discovered your show during the
2:09:16
pandemic and hit my husband in the mouth. Please accept his
2:09:20
donation in Oxford, Mississippi, and if they can do better than
2:09:24
that I discovered you showed during the pandemic and hit my
2:09:28
husband in the mouth already that insult them while you're
2:09:31
out. Please accept the donation as we've been seeing grows ducks
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everywhere. And dee doo
2:09:42
Unknown: dee doo SBT
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John C Dvorak: since we're both in desperate need, love you
2:09:47
guys, Buffy and Lance. Oh,
2:09:50
Adam Curry: thank you, Buffy and Lance. We'd love you to John's
2:09:53
in Columbus, Ohio and says do Adam John and get my nation I
2:09:57
donate today because I've achieved a great feat. I was
2:10:00
recounting some insane news story about how meat makes you
2:10:02
fat or something stupid like that to my oh smokin hot wife.
2:10:06
And after a short pause she blurts out, sounds like an OP. I
2:10:10
did it I'd also like to add that I took Mellencamp Megyn Kelly's
2:10:18
advice and tried listening to the last few no agenda episodes
2:10:21
at two times speed and all I could make out was John bumping
2:10:25
his mic stand. Somebody back you up. Anyways, stacks at Silver
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and shotgun shells is gonna get weird out there folks. Stay
2:10:33
dangerous. John at immediate casualty care.
2:10:38
John C Dvorak: Dame Christina pearl in deputy and she's in our
2:10:42
flight as a flight attendant in Indiana. She's an Indiana she is
2:10:48
she says first of all, thank you brother Adam for remembering my
2:10:53
birthday although I think the keeper has something to do with
2:10:56
this. I don't know. I asked my husband Sir Robert Charles of
2:11:00
Deputy Charlie deputy Charlie for the too many eggs book for
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my birthday and he told me he download the free PDF well done
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you go to too many A's dot com if you want to get a free copy.
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He did get me a hard copy as a gift although it was unsigned by
2:11:24
me me. Oh no. Oh well and then on my birthday morning of the he
2:11:29
said oops I forgot to send a birthday donation for you. So
2:11:33
he'll need some husband karma
2:11:35
Adam Curry: THIS GUY Yeah, he does if he wants to stay
2:11:37
husband. Second.
2:11:40
John C Dvorak: Although I've never flown with Serbian as he
2:11:43
is very junior to me I've been saying in the morning and my pas
2:11:47
says at least November of 2020. And I know this because I
2:11:52
tweeted about it. I had the pleasure of flying with cert P T
2:11:57
Debbie OB some I don't We both used ITM on our pas which had
2:12:03
the other flight attendants running to the interphone to ask
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what the heck is is this in the morning? If you know you know
2:12:14
sir be in a state is a good opportunity to hit people in the
2:12:17
mouth sir PTW OB told me that he has even had some ATC call ITM
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back to him. Oh, according An Na indeed has many fans in the
2:12:29
airline industry. Thank you both for everything you do for any
2:12:32
nation. May you never find an exit strategy much love Luv from
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Dame Christina.
2:12:39
Adam Curry: Thank you damn Christina pearl. Corey Getty is
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in Port Charlotte, Florida 20202 Palindrome ducks from Sir Fauci
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throat. Please accept this donation of 202 dot O two
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jingles, Fauci Wiese. Fauci Good to be here broth and Oh, Ilan,
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also some Trump Pelosi jobs karma second Lincoln always have
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that ready for my father the Tallahassee meet up was a grand
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old time. Thank you very much from Corey.
2:13:13
Unknown: Good to be here, bro. Jobs, jobs, jobs, jobs, jobs,
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jobs and jobs. Let's vote for Joe.
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You've got karma
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John C Dvorak: to run newer in in view din floatin. Loaded for
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loot loot in the Netherlands? Yes. Bloating. ITM a donation on
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over my dad keys Nuran who passed away last Monday's
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Adam Curry: case case northern case.
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John C Dvorak: And you remember that case? Please play F cancer
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jingle for all the producers and extended families who need it.
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Keep up the outstanding work. Regard sir Ron Norton sorry
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Unknown: you've got karma.
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Adam Curry: Linda Lou Potkin in Lakewood, Colorado to our final
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Associate Executive Producer $200 She
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John C Dvorak: there's one more
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Adam Curry: Oh yes, you're right because it's a candy Navion
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well, I'll do this one. jobs jobs karma for all you job
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Adam Curry: I think I'm getting better at it. Yeah,
2:14:50
John C Dvorak: I'm working on it. Sir Spencer in Canada came
2:14:54
in with 250 Canadian dollar rats and no jingles. No karma Baronet
2:14:58
sir Spencer. Sure. would park L. Berta,
2:15:01
Adam Curry: and we thank all of these executive and Associate
2:15:04
Executive producers for supporting episode 1562. We have
2:15:09
a couple more to do. John, I'll take you through those in a
2:15:11
moment. But I do want to read our layaway night note, Garrett
2:15:15
Ivester, who will be knighted today attaches my proof of
2:15:20
knighthoods from two separate recurring donations. My first
2:15:22
being $10 a week, then I switched to the 75 cents per
2:15:26
hour donation. Is this on devora.org/donate I love that
2:15:31
idea. That's a cool idea.
2:15:33
John C Dvorak: No, that's the fordell Yeah, that's the same as
2:15:35
I think as $4 a week donation.
2:15:38
Adam Curry: I think I finally hit knighthood back in November,
2:15:40
but have not sent in my info until now. The plan took a few
2:15:42
years, but it slowly adds up. I encourage all listeners to get
2:15:45
any type donation program because we could all afford
2:15:48
something to keep this great show running strong. I would
2:15:51
like to be known as Sir Give stir of mer town and would like
2:15:54
to shout out my dad's two, since he's the one who hit me in the
2:15:58
mouth. Can you please play a whoopie classified scream and
2:16:01
also some human resource karma? As me and my wife? Is it me and
2:16:04
my wife? Or is it? My wife and I wife and I? Yeah, that I thought
2:16:09
that was kind of weird. On a second classifier,
2:16:13
John C Dvorak: you can say whatever you want.
2:16:16
Adam Curry: Where's my where's my movie? Oh, there it is. We're
2:16:21
expecting identical twin girls in less than a month. How does
2:16:24
you know they're identical? Seriously, do you know that
2:16:29
beforehand, they're gonna be identical? Can you see that?
2:16:33
John C Dvorak: I guess in the early days of the of the
2:16:36
visualization, maybe they're still glued together.
2:16:41
Adam Curry: Oh, and Diet Coke for me at the roundtable. Keep
2:16:44
up the good work. Okay, you got it. You've got karma. And John's
2:16:54
gonna take us through the 50s where the rest of the donors
2:16:56
were to
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John C Dvorak: start with Aaron in Denver came in $156.10. He
2:17:00
didn't write a note. And we don't read these lower ones but
2:17:04
we can give him a D douching that
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Unknown: you've been de deuced
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John C Dvorak: sir, Knight gray writer in Sherwood, Oregon. One,
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two. And by the way, Aaron was 156 10 Sir gray writer is 12321
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Kevin draggers in Melrose Florida 111 11 where the D D
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deuced. His mom's on the birthday list. Ronnie Chambliss
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and Attica, Indiana 100 Tim Harwood in Corvallis, Oregon 100
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He's got a little side note there for you. He also has a
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note for me says the newsletters dynamite and boom Kevin
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McLaughlin locusts North Carolina 808 Boobs right the top
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of the list along with Robert suede. OC Gwadar or St. seguida
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in Eastern Connecticut 808 and Jason Shepherd and superior
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Colorado just down the road from inferior Colorado 808 Richard
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Thompson in Newtownards UK is 7777 He's actually in Amarillo.
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He's in Ireland or Northern Ireland, Dame DeLorean in Kansas
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City, Missouri. 6969 He's got a birthday. She's put a birthday
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on there was no answer
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Adam Curry: for Spencer. Sure.
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John C Dvorak: Sure. Spencer. Donald Lipinski in Austin, Texas
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your buddy 69 Top Notch heating and cooling that's what it is an
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air it's top notch heating and air. Top notch heating and air
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in Manti Utah. $64 and they do a cleanup for you. Cameron Leigh
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Linga Linga in North Branch Minnesota nuts. Just pronounced
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Ling idiot 6233 needs a de douche.
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Unknown: Van De deuced
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John C Dvorak: anonymous in Columbus, Ohio 60 Sure Dagwood
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in Spokane, Washington 5751 Gergana Yank Cova in Chesham UK
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5678 James Zwart in Madison, South Dakota, got a birthdate,
2:19:30
Adam Curry: human resource and sleep. She's so proud of you so
2:19:33
proud of her. Alright, ninth birthday
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John C Dvorak: 5510 Sir Rain Man and Canyon, Texas 5427 and other
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birthday call out himself. Michael gates, a 52 at Josiah
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Thomason, and Kenny, Iowa 51. Steve Sanders and Casey. Are
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case case your case not sure. South Carolina. Thanks for the
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Vex Seeing information and now we have $50 donors name and
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Unknown: me you want to be
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Adam Curry: like okay, see ISOs You got any ISOs you gotta get
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in good. I have three ISOs I got three ISOs as well. Let's do
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yours first.
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John C Dvorak: Okay, start with true.
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Adam Curry: Try so true. It's true. Okay, you get a little
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little little chuckle out of me.
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John C Dvorak: lunacy.
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Unknown: Pulsar lunacy. What do you say at the beginning balls
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are lunacy.
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Adam Curry: What does he say to begin
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Unknown: utter utter lunacy
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Adam Curry: now that's Claire. Claire so a week a week.
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John C Dvorak: US lunacy cool it's really cool
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Adam Curry: man not bad not bad. I've got this one
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Unknown: no clue
2:28:03
Adam Curry: I've got actually good oh wait a minute. Can we do
2:28:07
a combo there for some reason it felt like that was combo where
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the only see
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Unknown: it's really cool actually.
2:28:15
Adam Curry: Good. could do it. Yeah, Sonic Boom or
2:28:19
Unknown: in the morning baby
2:28:20
Adam Curry: that's my favorite Of course.
2:28:23
John C Dvorak: I would say it's actually good as the best one
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Adam Curry: the sonic boom sorry actually good. Okay actually
2:28:31
good at this which is actually good it's actually good
2:28:37
John C Dvorak: UFOs Come on. Second half a show
2:28:43
Adam Curry: where's my second half of a show? I have the
2:28:46
second half of show you're not gonna like me you're not gonna
2:28:50
like my second half of the show. Second half All right, I have
2:28:57
some clips for this but I think you should start because you're
2:29:00
all Judy and jacked about it what you got?
2:29:02
John C Dvorak: Everybody wants us to do this
2:29:04
Adam Curry: of course of course we do.
2:29:06
John C Dvorak: Well first of all let's start do I got my stuff
2:29:08
from news nation?
2:29:13
Adam Curry: Yes, that's where I got my stuff from as well. Oh,
2:29:15
and you got you got Elizabeth Vargas show no I do not have no
2:29:19
no I got it from Chris Cuomo show.
2:29:22
John C Dvorak: Oh, I got my from Elizabeth Vargas news nation for
2:29:25
people that want to know it that you see it you can find it on
2:29:27
OTA.
2:29:29
Adam Curry: This has got to be a spook funded outfit. What is
2:29:31
this now? It's
2:29:32
John C Dvorak: done by No. It's done by the Chicago Tribune.
2:29:34
That's his funding. It's the old WGN really? Yeah, if you
2:29:38
remember WGN used to be on cable because they played the baseball
2:29:42
games and all the rest of it. They decided to go they took
2:29:46
they looked at the at the looked around and said was CNN I missed
2:29:51
these guys are no good. And so they turned WGN into news
2:29:56
nation.
2:29:57
Adam Curry: It's a dynamite channel. I think Lauren Logan
2:30:01
even got kicked off of that.
2:30:03
John C Dvorak: So I start with their first report about
2:30:08
predating the spook who came out and says, Yeah, I know for a
2:30:13
fact they won't tell us about the aliens. Yeah, and I have an
2:30:17
overall comment to make about all these clips when they were
2:30:21
done. But let's start with UFO to Twentynine Palms clip, let's
2:30:25
Unknown: capture what witnesses say they saw in April 2021. They
2:30:29
described seeing a triangular formation of lights hovering
2:30:33
above the Marine Corps Base. Joining us now is Jeremy Korbel,
2:30:37
investigative journalist and co host of the podcast weaponized
2:30:40
All right, you've been studying this footage for quite some
2:30:43
time.
2:30:43
Adam Curry: Who is this dynamite housed? Do you know he named me?
2:30:47
That's what's your name?
2:30:48
Unknown: That's Elizabeth Vargas. And it's from an
2:30:50
incident two years ago.
2:30:51
John C Dvorak: He's an old pro.
2:30:54
Unknown: Are we just seeing it now?
2:30:55
John C Dvorak: Yeah, no, I agree. She's got a whiny voice
2:30:58
Unknown: takes a while to do these types of investigations.
2:31:01
You need to find witnesses, as many photos and videos that you
2:31:05
can. Upon looking at it the first time when I got the tip
2:31:08
that something unusual happened that night. It was just inky
2:31:11
darkness and lights in the sky. I immediately thought it was
2:31:14
flares. It's something you see all the time. However, over the
2:31:18
course of this investigation, I have witnesses direct
2:31:21
eyewitnesses come forward to me saying we saw the body of a
2:31:25
craft and in fact, they sent low light photos, which shows an
2:31:29
outline. So I started to listen and my mentor in journalism,
2:31:32
George Knapp and I, we dug into it over that time with my
2:31:36
Adam Curry: mentor in journalism, George Knapp,
2:31:40
Unknown: outline. So that's good. And my mentor in
2:31:43
journalism, George Knapp and I, we dug into it. And over that
2:31:47
time, we've been able to collect just dozens of videos and images
2:31:52
and eyewitness testimony. And really, this is an open case,
2:31:55
we're trying to figure out what it is that people saw at
2:31:59
Twentynine Palms military base.
2:32:00
Adam Curry: Now, why are you playing this?
2:32:04
John C Dvorak: I think I'm playing this because it would it
2:32:07
came a day or two before the other thing. Oh, setup, okay,
2:32:11
it's a sad. I've always said it's still Elizabeth Vargas. And
2:32:16
she used to be the yawn 2020, or one of those shows where and
2:32:19
then the daughter ran into the boyfriend, who then she found
2:32:23
his dead body,
2:32:24
Adam Curry: he had a mystery illness. And so
2:32:28
John C Dvorak: so she seems to be into this. So let's go with
2:32:30
part two.
2:32:31
Unknown: So we're looking at these videos and photographs
2:32:34
right now, where did these come from?
2:32:36
These are from Marines. These are from direct eyewitnesses on
2:32:40
the base, which is almost, you know, 1000 square miles. It's a
2:32:44
large base. But at Camp Wilson, a lot of people took photos and
2:32:48
sent them into me, I guess I'm the go to guy.
2:32:51
Now what about the theory that we're looking at flares from
2:32:54
some sort of military training exercise? I'd heard that sort of
2:32:57
thrown out there.
2:32:58
That's right, we would need that substantiated. However, you've
2:33:01
got a number of marine saying that we saw a crop these are
2:33:04
trained observers. And if they say
2:33:07
Adam Curry: a crop or craft, I couldn't quite we saw across the
2:33:10
grass, but
2:33:11
John C Dvorak: But it's funny your line? Is there a trained
2:33:14
observers, they're Marines. trained observers, are they
2:33:19
trained observers
2:33:20
Unknown: substantiated, however, you've got a number of marine
2:33:23
saying that we saw a crop, these are trained observers. And if
2:33:27
they saw the body and you're seeing that in the low light
2:33:29
images, it's worthy of investigation. If somebody makes
2:33:32
a claim, then they need to substantiate that claim. My
2:33:36
claim is I'm reporting the news. This is what people have told me
2:33:39
and I have so many witnesses on record
2:33:41
at the Department of Defense investigating this to you now.
2:33:44
Well, I'm
2:33:44
sure they are now whenever George Knapp and I released
2:33:47
something on the weaponized podcast you can be sure the
2:33:50
Department of Defense is now investigating this is they're
2:33:53
taking these
2:33:57
Adam Curry: when they when they do something on their podcast,
2:33:59
the Department of Defense comes into action
2:34:01
Unknown: can be sure the Department of Defense is now
2:34:04
investigating this
2:34:05
Yeah, cuz they're taking these things more seriously. A lot of
2:34:07
Navy pilots for years have been saying I saw something up there
2:34:10
and I even took pictures of it and felt like nobody listened to
2:34:13
them. They're listening now.
2:34:16
John C Dvorak: Oh, okay. So so she's all in?
2:34:19
Adam Curry: Well, she's pretending to be all in I think
2:34:22
she is you know, Joe Rogan's all in on this too? He always has
2:34:26
those guys on who make entertainment based UFO videos,
2:34:30
and they come in and like oh, yeah, it was all happened and
2:34:33
they keep showing the the TIC tock tic tac video from 2014
2:34:37
which is you know, it's a radar image and I you know, I'm where
2:34:40
I'm coming from with this but Okay, let's go Kara.
2:34:45
John C Dvorak: As so, let's go to now, you know, like a day
2:34:48
later or whenever takes, this guy comes on. This guy comes out
2:34:52
of the woodwork. He's interviewed by some bridge, but
2:34:55
they're covering it very carefully on news. Now she has
2:34:59
on his news net Should network UFO spook whistleblower
2:35:03
Unknown: Brian Entin is here with the story and this is a
2:35:05
blockbuster, Blockbuster. It's
2:35:08
hard to wrap your mind around this. I've been working on this
2:35:10
for the past couple of weeks, I'm still having a hard time
2:35:13
processing, processing all of it. Over the last couple of
2:35:16
years, it sort of became mainstream to discuss UFOs the
2:35:19
government has released videos, they've acknowledged that we
2:35:22
don't know what some of this stuff is out there that we have
2:35:25
on camera, but this really takes it all to another level. For the
2:35:28
very first time the world is about to hear from a former high
2:35:31
level US intelligence officer who says the government has some
2:35:35
of the unidentified craft in its possession. He is revealing
2:35:39
these exclusive details about a secret program going against the
2:35:44
whim of Windsor Hudson. We have all seen these blurry videos of
2:35:51
unidentified flying objects video evidence, if you will,
2:35:55
that old tales of UFOs may not all be conspiracy theories. In
2:35:59
recent years Congress starting an official US government
2:36:02
unidentified aerial phenomena Task Force recently renamed the
2:36:06
all domain anomaly resolution office or arrow. And now in a
2:36:11
news nation exclusive David grush. And Air Force veteran
2:36:14
former member of that task force and veteran of the National
2:36:17
Geospatial Intelligence Agency is formally blowing the whistle
2:36:22
on secrets he says no one has ever shared publicly before.
2:36:26
Adam Curry: Okay, a couple comments before you continue
2:36:28
one.
2:36:35
To what is a whistleblower? What is the definition of a
2:36:39
whistleblower?
2:36:42
John C Dvorak: The whistleblower I think is defined as a person
2:36:45
who reports on government wrongdoing in such a way that he
2:36:50
could lose his job
2:36:52
Adam Curry: and informant who exposes wrongdoing within an
2:36:54
organization in the hope of stopping it. So that means that
2:36:59
there they are putting their own like Edward Snowden
2:37:04
whistleblower putting their own career and perhaps life at risk.
2:37:08
Yeah, okay. All right. Good.
2:37:12
John C Dvorak: So here's this guy. Now that guy you've seen
2:37:15
him? Yes. He's a little too slick for my taste. Yes. Think
2:37:20
he's not. He's not like a grease ball. Slick guy. Like oily if
2:37:27
you know what I mean. Yeah, he but he's just a little too. He's
2:37:32
just too is to something and I can't put my finger on what it
2:37:35
is. But here we go. You.
2:37:38
Adam Curry: Yeah, the two I'm sorry. Two. Yeah. One of
2:37:41
Unknown: the most trusted
2:37:43
Adam Curry: okay, this is over modulated What did you do? Just
2:37:47
like crazy. It's crazy over modulated for
2:37:50
Unknown: officials in the US defense and intelligence
2:37:52
establishment. Yes, I was. You were trusted with the most
2:37:56
intimate secrets. Yes.
2:37:58
Gresh, sitting down with award winning investigative journalist
2:38:01
Ross cold heart who's reporting for news nation and has spent
2:38:04
years reporting on the UFO question.
2:38:06
What conclusion did you come to at the end of your time on the
2:38:10
UAP Task Force?
2:38:12
The UAP task force was refused access to a broad crash
2:38:17
retrieval program.
2:38:19
When you say crash retrieval, what do you mean?
2:38:22
These are retrieving non human origin? Technical vehicles, you
2:38:26
know, call it spacecraft, if you will, non human exotic origin
2:38:31
vehicles that have either landed or crashed?
2:38:33
We have spacecraft from another species. We do.
2:38:37
Yeah. How many? Quite a number. You know, I thought it was
2:38:43
totally nuts. And I thought at first I was being deceived. It
2:38:46
was a ruse. People started confiding in me. They approached
2:38:49
me. I have plenty of current former senior intelligence
2:38:53
officers that came to me many which I knew I missed my whole
2:38:56
career that Ken invited me they were a part of a program. They
2:38:59
named the program. I've never heard of it. And they they told
2:39:05
me based on their oral testimony, and they provided me
2:39:08
documents and other other proof that there was in fact a program
2:39:12
that the UAP task force was not read into
2:39:16
grush alleges the US government has recovered non human craft
2:39:19
for decades. He's filed the whistleblower complaint saying
2:39:22
he gave what he calls the classified proof to Congress and
2:39:25
the intelligence community inspector general use ation as
2:39:28
confirmed David Gratias credentials and resume. We've
2:39:31
not seen her verified the alleged proof. He says he's
2:39:34
provided to investigators. He says he can't show us the proof
2:39:37
for national security reasons. He also tells us he's not seen
2:39:40
photos of the alleged craft himself, but has talked
2:39:43
extensively with other intelligence officials who have
2:39:49
John C Dvorak: Yeah, please. Yes. First of all, there's named
2:39:52
David grush. Yeah, Ryan was like a CIA and I've said this before
2:39:59
that Different people. I get a lot of nasty notes when I say
2:40:03
that, by the way, really from from spooks. I didn't know I
2:40:07
don't think they're spooks, but they might be spooked. But I
2:40:09
have no idea why. Let me ask
2:40:10
Adam Curry: you what is the whistleblower brief? The
2:40:15
whistleblower brief.
2:40:18
John C Dvorak: I want to I want to mention to people out there
2:40:21
who have a good ear. This guy sounds exactly like the coach of
2:40:28
the or the coach of the warriors. Steve Kerr. Exactly.
2:40:33
If you just played a couple clips from him and said it was
2:40:35
Steve Kerr, y'all Yeah. Okay. So. So this is a meal you voice?
2:40:41
I'm not sure what the meal you is. It could be some college
2:40:45
could be a fraternity? I'm not sure. Okay.
2:40:48
Adam Curry: Costco, Scotland, Bones Yale.
2:40:53
John C Dvorak: Yeah, I don't think so. Okay. Next clip.
2:40:55
Unknown: If you're right. If you're telling us the truth,
2:40:58
everyone, the entire American public has been lied to for
2:41:03
decades,
2:41:05
sophisticated, disinformation campaign targeting the US
2:41:09
populace, which is extremely unethical and immoral
2:41:12
us to the human race. For the first time and official
2:41:17
intelligence representative at a high level from the US
2:41:20
government is saying publicly. We are not alone.
2:41:25
We're definitely not alone. Absolutely. The data points
2:41:28
empirically, that we're not alone. Yeah. Do we
2:41:31
have bodies? Do we have species both?
2:41:34
Well, naturally, when you recover something that's either
2:41:37
landed or crashed. Sometimes you encounter dead pilots. And
2:41:43
believe it or not as fast as fantastical as that sounds. It's
2:41:47
true.
2:41:48
It's also harder for people to wrap their minds around the
2:41:51
concept of a crashed object from somewhere else. It's easier to
2:41:56
accept that yeah, we see things in the sky that we can't
2:41:58
explain.
2:41:59
Journalist Lesley Kane broke rushes whistleblower story this
2:42:02
morning in the debrief. Miss Kane's career has been
2:42:04
mainstream and credible, having written a series of reports on
2:42:08
UFOs in the New York Times, dating back to 2017, he has the
2:42:12
credentials, but there's no documents that he's handed over.
2:42:16
There's no pictures. And as a journalist, you want to see
2:42:18
documents you want to see pictures. Does that raise the
2:42:21
red flag?
2:42:22
Not at all, Brian? I mean, you mean documents that actually
2:42:25
describe the craft?
2:42:27
Yeah, like documents to be able to see it for ourselves?
2:42:30
Of course don't we all want that and the problem with that is all
2:42:34
of that information is classified as everything that
2:42:37
grush told Congress and told the the inspector general of both
2:42:43
the IC the intelligence community Inspector General and
2:42:46
the Department of Defense inspector general all that
2:42:48
information is classified classified.
2:42:51
Adam Curry: I love the little IC intelligence community last year
2:42:56
you know, and notice what he says dead pilots but he doesn't
2:42:58
say dead alien pilots. He just as dead pilots share we've seen
2:43:02
dead pilots. Okay,
2:43:05
John C Dvorak: okay. last clip. And then I have my my, my one
2:43:08
real comment.
2:43:10
Unknown: In 2017, Kane reported exclusively in the New York
2:43:13
Times that the Pentagon had a secret UFO program. Three years
2:43:16
later, the Pentagon confirmed her story. Her latest report is
2:43:20
even more explosive. McCain says she has multiple sources who
2:43:25
back up crushes story.
2:43:27
I believe it because of all the sources I have, who have told me
2:43:30
the same thing. So who am I to doubt these very, very high
2:43:33
level people who have been inside these programs, for
2:43:37
decades, have done their work and are all telling me the same
2:43:41
thing. I mean, I don't think there's some kind of conspiracy
2:43:43
among all these people who don't know each other to make
2:43:46
something like this up.
2:43:47
So I've got to be blunt about this. You're not making this up.
2:43:50
This is not a lie. No, absolutely not. Because
2:43:53
everybody watching this right now is looking at your face.
2:43:58
They're going is this guy for real?
2:44:01
I am for real. And I'm you know, I'm sitting here at great
2:44:04
personal risk and obvious professional risk by talking to
2:44:08
you today.
2:44:09
And just within the last 10 minutes or so, the Pentagon has
2:44:12
released a statement to news nation about this report. They
2:44:15
say to date arrow has not discovered any verifiable
2:44:18
information to substantiate claims that any programs
2:44:21
regarding the possession or reverse engineering of
2:44:24
extraterrestrial materials have existed in the past or exist
2:44:28
currently. There it was committed to following the data
2:44:31
and its investigation wherever it leads era working with the
2:44:34
Office of the General Counsel and the Air Force Office of
2:44:37
Special Investigations has established a safe and secure
2:44:40
process for individuals to come forward with information to aid
2:44:44
arrow in its congressionally mandated historical review.
2:44:48
Arrows historical review of records and testimonies is
2:44:51
ongoing and due to Congress by June 2024, and arrow welcomes
2:44:55
the opportunity to speak with a former or current employee or CA
2:45:00
tractor who believes they have information relevant to this
2:45:04
historical review and Elizabeth, we know that David grush He's
2:45:06
filed that whistleblower complaint. He's he's been on the
2:45:09
record under oath, testifying to many of these things that he
2:45:13
said in our report tonight,
2:45:14
right. And it's important to point out that this statement
2:45:16
from the Pentagon from Arrow Gresh is in is alleging that
2:45:21
this top secret top top secret secret program is keeping a
2:45:24
secret from Arrow.
2:45:27
Adam Curry: No, okay. Well, I'm curious about your comment, and
2:45:30
then I can finally get to my clips in my comments.
2:45:33
John C Dvorak: Okay, well, Mike come in is the what's left left
2:45:37
out of all these reports and all the claims this is the first of
2:45:40
this and the first of that, and the first of this and the first
2:45:42
of that. And I think what, who was Philip? J. Corso shop
2:45:49
deliver? Yeah, really, Corey wrote the book, The Day After
2:45:55
Roswell blew the lid off of all this stuff. He has never been
2:46:00
debunked. His book The Day After Roswell has never been
2:46:06
adequately debunked. And
2:46:07
Adam Curry: what does he say in his book, The Day After Roswell
2:46:10
that we've been collecting?
2:46:11
John C Dvorak: We've been collecting bodies and aircraft
2:46:15
and he knows what and he's seen them and didn't think twice
2:46:19
about it. He wasn't like this go I've heard about this. I mean,
2:46:23
we know that he's seen him and he says he hasn't he talks about
2:46:27
in great detail. All these these these mostly ruined spacecraft
2:46:34
if their spacecraft did not dimensional craft, which is
2:46:36
possible dimensional
2:46:37
Adam Curry: craft like, like vision, pro spatial computing.
2:46:41
John C Dvorak: And so this guy's never mentioned. He's like,
2:46:44
let's forget about that ever happened? Because he's been dead
2:46:48
since 2009. He's been dead since he died. I can't remember. He's
2:46:53
dead. He's dead. That's your that's it? Well, that's my main
2:46:59
thing is is Why do you acidulous assiduously Michael, just
2:47:03
Adam Curry: another good word.
2:47:04
John C Dvorak: I know I have trouble getting that one out.
2:47:06
No, but I did Jewishly good work and pletely leave this guy out
2:47:11
and never mentioned this is completely forgotten. And it's
2:47:14
not and it's ignored. So you can kind of pump the pump this guy
2:47:18
up. And this new story, which has got no play at all by
2:47:23
anyone, even though Tucker brought it up. Of course,
2:47:26
Tucker's
2:47:26
Adam Curry: always bringing this up. All right, let me let me
2:47:30
help you out. News nation is full of crap but even news
2:47:34
nation, there may be it's to Chris Cuomo is credit. Even news
2:47:39
nation has to tell us the truth somewhere to let us know what's
2:47:44
really going on. You're right. This guy is a spook he's an
2:47:48
approved spook the story is approved. And here's them saying
2:47:51
it. Well, I
2:47:52
Unknown: know about grush. Because my partner in that
2:47:55
podcast, Ross Coltart the man who's doing the interview, is
2:47:58
someone I've been in contact with, obviously, on a lot of
2:48:00
these issues, and a lot of the sources that he said over the
2:48:04
time that we've known each other. So I've, I've seen the
2:48:06
grush story coming. I did spend a couple of days with Dave
2:48:09
grush. In May, the day before you guys actually taped the news
2:48:15
nation interview, and I was there for the news nation
2:48:17
interview, wasn't fired,
2:48:20
doesn't have beef that we know about the government hasn't come
2:48:23
forward and said he was fired or has beef. And in fact, he is
2:48:28
telling us the truth, as far as we know about going to DOD for
2:48:31
pre publication clearance. And he was told not to talk about
2:48:37
certain things. Is that your understanding as well?
2:48:40
Well, that's what the it's called the DOPPS document. And
2:48:43
it basically allows him to talk about certain things. Now, it's
2:48:46
a dangerous game for a person like Dave grush, because that
2:48:50
puts a line there. And he has to as he's answering questions for
2:48:53
Ross or yourself in the future, he has to wonder whether he's
2:48:57
going over that line or not. So he's got, you know, he's he's
2:49:00
obviously being watched by the government to make sure that he
2:49:03
stays on the right side of what they're allowing him to talk
2:49:06
about. But I think it is pretty wild that the government has
2:49:09
said, you know, go ahead, Dave, tell your story. And that's
2:49:12
exactly what he's doing. And it's interesting. I just, I'm
2:49:15
not sure people can understand this, in addition to all the
2:49:18
credentials this guy has, he actually worked on the
2:49:21
presidential daily briefing, he was one of the guys trusted to
2:49:24
literally walk that briefing over to the White House. You
2:49:27
know, this is not some guy who you know, worked in the
2:49:31
government 30 years ago, who's coming forward with a YouTube
2:49:34
video. This is a guy who was deeply involved in the
2:49:38
intelligence community of the US government up until April of
2:49:41
this year, and he's telling a story that, as you've pointed
2:49:45
out, is pretty radical. And yet, there's a lot of reason to
2:49:48
believe that it's true.
2:49:50
Adam Curry: Yeah. And he's telling exactly what his bosses
2:49:53
have sent him to tell us. That's what they're saying they're this
2:49:57
guy is an informed spook. He's been told what to say Say, and
2:50:00
I'll just say it again. This is Project Blue Blue Beam. This is
2:50:04
phony This is the our aliens may exist, but this is no proof of
2:50:08
it. This is to get us all hyped up and jacked up and either the
2:50:12
aliens are going to suppose to bring us together under some
2:50:14
kind of horrible enemy will all want to fight together, which
2:50:18
would be the coolest way or the new gods. And it's bull crap is
2:50:22
bull crap.
2:50:23
John C Dvorak: No, it's that's not what it's designed to do at
2:50:26
all. It's exactly what it's designed to know. It's designed
2:50:28
to get Kamla Harris nominated as the Democratic candidate. Okay,
2:50:33
that's done.
2:50:35
Adam Curry: I have one boots on the ground to share. In this
2:50:40
regard. Anonymous. I know I'm just another person but I
2:50:44
figured I'd share with you my mom worked for the NRO and nga
2:50:47
National Geospatial agency for over 30 years. And before that
2:50:50
White House Communications, I'm pretty sure her job there was to
2:50:54
set up skiffs when the President would travel overseas. My entire
2:50:57
life. She's never talked about her job. I knew she also worked
2:51:00
for General Dynamics and sometimes at smaller companies
2:51:03
that God would purchase and operate some smaller contracts
2:51:06
with her job was definitely really important. I remember
2:51:09
when 911 happened, the National Guard would pick her up into
2:51:11
Humvee, for a month to take her to and from work. I'm still not
2:51:15
entirely sure what her job was for a long time. But I'm
2:51:18
positive that towards the end of her career, she did intrusion
2:51:21
detection. In between contracts. She worked at NORAD and Mount
2:51:25
Weather various times. And I've heard her talk about intrusion
2:51:29
detection to my dad, I always assumed she worked in it and she
2:51:32
met hackers. But I realized that's not what she meant at
2:51:35
all, especially considering the places she works. Within the
2:51:38
last year. She's told me that her security clearances was
2:51:41
gamma, GA MMA, and that at one point in her career, she had
2:51:46
access to the entire database of nuclear codes, told me a
2:51:50
highlight of her career that she could talk about was going into
2:51:53
the tunnels under Hawaii and retrieving unredacted files from
2:51:57
the NSA for a FISA request. So all that aside, that's her
2:52:01
credentials here. I sent her that article from the debrief a
2:52:05
few days ago and asked her mom, there's no aliens, right? And
2:52:09
she said, quote, there's no aliens interested in this little
2:52:12
planet. She then told me that the NGA essentially operates a
2:52:16
massive hard drive for the CIA and the NRO. And since it's a
2:52:20
hard drive, it can be accessed remotely pretty easily. I think
2:52:23
she was telling me that she's played around on the database. I
2:52:26
then outright asked her about you a piece and she said, LOL
2:52:31
UAPs were a source of entertainment for us. Without
2:52:35
outright saying it. I'm understanding that she's saying
2:52:37
that NRO NORAD are constantly spotting UAPs and they are not a
2:52:42
foreign or extraterrestrial origin. I believe this.
2:52:50
John C Dvorak: Yeah, that's good.
2:52:51
Adam Curry: Yeah. So sorry, Tucker. Anyway, and I see people
2:52:57
on Twitter world as a whistleblower, just girl is not
2:53:01
a whistleblower. That's a lie. He's not a whistleblower is a
2:53:04
spook. He's a spokesperson. Spokes Hall. He's been given an
2:53:10
okay. Point taken. The whole point of this is to get Kamala
2:53:15
Harris. The into the president into the Oval Office. Okay.
2:53:21
John C Dvorak: He left now.
2:53:23
Adam Curry: Actually, I don't want to laugh. It's kind of sad
2:53:25
to hear that.
2:53:26
John C Dvorak: Okay. Well, the change topics. Yes, we'll drop
2:53:30
that one. But we had to cover it.
2:53:34
Adam Curry: We covered consider it covered.
2:53:36
John C Dvorak: Yes. coverage, and I think it's covered well. I
2:53:41
got a note from one of our producers in Oakland. John, I'm
2:53:46
a letter carrier in Fair Oaks, California. I wanted to give you
2:53:50
a boots on the ground update about letter carriers in
2:53:52
Oakland, CA
2:53:53
Adam Curry: This is the USPS issue once again. Well, this
2:53:57
John C Dvorak: issue is particularly has to do with the
2:53:59
robbing of mailman don't know, which is a major problem going
2:54:03
on in Oakland. They're just getting robbed left and right. I
2:54:06
don't know why the government doesn't come in because it's a
2:54:07
federal offense you can get in the bank, in the bank for good.
2:54:14
The post office sends messages every day to all letter carriers
2:54:17
in the Sacramento region asking for letter carriers to come work
2:54:22
in Oakland. Yeah, it's so bad for letter carriers in Oakland
2:54:28
that the Post Office offers $100 A day bonus Whoa. In addition to
2:54:34
your hourly rate, plus they pay for accommodations Hotel.
2:54:39
Granted, you only be at the hotel for a limited time because
2:54:43
every day is going to be an 11 to 12 hour a day. For our
2:54:47
contract after 10 hours you earn double time. Wow. So you get
2:54:52
$100 A day bonus and double time. And I thought you might
2:54:56
find this interesting and I would I should let you know
2:55:00
about this little update for Oaklanders.
2:55:04
Adam Curry: Is it possible that the the envelope I sent you with
2:55:07
the checks from the meet up that it was stolen? That a letter
2:55:11
carrier was robbed? You still don't have it? No, I
2:55:13
John C Dvorak: don't have it. You have to redo it. redo it.
2:55:16
That
2:55:16
Adam Curry: means we have to get the incident. We have to have
2:55:18
recut a new check. That's horrible.
2:55:21
John C Dvorak: Yeah, that's what I say.
2:55:23
Adam Curry: All right. Um, since you are an expert, a certified
2:55:26
expert. I'm glad we have you here. A quick update from Lester
2:55:30
Holt.
2:55:31
Unknown: Tonight nearly a third of the country under historic
2:55:33
air quality alerts eerie, almost apocalyptic skies putting 150
2:55:38
million Americans at risk. The orange yellow haze choking
2:55:42
cities up and down the East Coast. New York City with the
2:55:45
worst air in the world. The FAA halting flights and one of the
2:55:49
busiest airports the Yankees and women's pro basketball postpone
2:55:54
was schools keeping students inside all of it fueled by
2:55:58
Canada's massive wildfires.
2:56:00
Adam Curry: I love that update Lester we don't use anymore. We
2:56:03
know exactly what the headlines are. But now ABC delves in and I
2:56:06
have some questions about air quality and you are the guy to
2:56:09
ask
2:56:10
Unknown: this morning from bad to worse. 10s of millions of
2:56:13
Americans are on alert for unhealthy air. The New York
2:56:17
Yankees game last night smelling like a campfire. New York at one
2:56:23
point seeing the worst air quality of any city on Earth.
2:56:27
The smoky haze coming from wildfires in Canada is blotting
2:56:31
Skylines from Manhattan to Cleveland.
2:56:33
We're really seeing these exceptional levels that are
2:56:37
traditionally seen in really really populated cities more
2:56:40
than 400 wildfires are burning across Canada from the western
2:56:44
provinces to Quebec turning the sky bright orange. Smoke seeping
2:56:50
across the border prompting air quality advisories for at least
2:56:54
80 million Americans as far south as North Carolina. One
2:56:58
expert saying if you're exposed to the current air quality in
2:57:01
New York for 24 hours, it could be equivalent to smoking six
2:57:05
cigarettes,
2:57:06
the immediate health risks or worsening of asthma and
2:57:09
worsening of allergy symptoms. It can happen immediately
2:57:12
exposure to this type
2:57:13
of air quality, vulnerable people are warned to stay inside
2:57:17
the current
2:57:17
air quality folks. It is hazardous out there to be
2:57:21
outside from New York to Philly, much of southern New England and
2:57:24
that's not going to change much through the day on Wednesday.
2:57:26
But there is some relief coming on Friday, the rain will wash
2:57:30
out a lot of that smoke out of the air.
2:57:31
Scientists monitor unhealthy air from wildfire smoke by measuring
2:57:35
a particle known as PM 2.5, which is small enough to get
2:57:39
past your airway defenses and cause breathing problems. A
2:57:43
recent study at Stanford University found in the last
2:57:46
decade, there has been a 27 fold increase in the number of people
2:57:50
living in areas with an unhealthy amount of PM 2.5 At
2:57:54
least one day per year.
2:57:57
Adam Curry: And there it is the PM 2.5 or 1.5 I have a feeling
2:58:04
that you can enlighten us exactly on the air quality what
2:58:09
it all means. Is it really equivalent to smoking six
2:58:12
cigarettes. Is it dangerous? My stepdaughter lives in Brooklyn
2:58:16
she says she said that her eyes are not burning her throat and
2:58:20
don't
2:58:20
John C Dvorak: worry about if your eyes aren't burning and you
2:58:22
don't write shortness of breath you died and wouldn't care
2:58:25
Adam Curry: but what is this Pm 2.5 What is all this stuff?
2:58:29
John C Dvorak: pm 2.0 this bullshit they make it sound like
2:58:31
it's a chemical.
2:58:32
Adam Curry: Thank you. Thank you. Bullshit yes bullshit. No
2:58:35
kidding. Okay.
2:58:37
John C Dvorak: It's a particulates of particulate is a
2:58:40
fine particle pm particulate matter is like a is there's it's
2:58:45
not defined as particulate matter. 2.5 is the size of fine
2:58:52
Pat it's a half micron or two no two and a half micron size
2:58:56
particle. A particulate matter which comes from ashes could be
2:59:00
ash a piece of ash to so smallest. A 2.5 micron. That's
2:59:07
what they're talking about. 2.5 micron is small enough that he
2:59:10
gets to some filters and stuff like that. So wearing the about
2:59:14
the size of the Coronavirus, so it goes right through a mask.
2:59:18
Adam Curry: That's what I wanted to hear. So people are wearing
2:59:20
masks and I think it's going to help them. Yeah, it's
2:59:22
John C Dvorak: not going to help you do nothing. Forget the
2:59:24
masking doing Jack. But here's the thing that somebody pointed
2:59:28
out to me. Yes. Is that where are you? Where's the movies of
2:59:32
these fires?
2:59:35
Adam Curry: Do you think we should send so in
2:59:37
John C Dvorak: California has these fires they're driving down
2:59:40
the highway they're an old as woman to trees are falling in
2:59:42
front of her the front there's fires all around. Oh, look at
2:59:45
the cities burnt to the ground is all this stuff going on?
2:59:48
Whereas these movies, where's the where's the film of the
2:59:50
fires? There's so many fires. That's a
2:59:54
Adam Curry: almost a great question.
2:59:56
John C Dvorak: It is almost a great question because I have
2:59:58
yet to see one. and even a quadcopter taken a movie or
3:00:02
these these infinite number of fires that are going on up in
3:00:06
Canada
3:00:07
Adam Curry: Do you think we should send some rainstick up to
3:00:09
them
3:00:10
John C Dvorak: that's what a lot of people would like yeah we
3:00:13
could because not gonna hurt me
3:00:14
Adam Curry: all right hold on. Although you know we in
3:00:18
John C Dvorak: Texas could get the backscatter you're gonna get
3:00:20
you're gonna get rain no matter what.
3:00:22
Adam Curry: Wow right so how do we I think we do three three
3:00:25
shakes man.
3:00:26
John C Dvorak: No no I two and a half nine and a half How do you
3:00:29
do a half? You just flip it once?
3:00:32
Adam Curry: Oh okay all right two and a half Are You Ready?
3:00:34
Ready? Is it karma incoming for Canada Navia 321
3:00:48
All right, two and a half. Stop enough already. You don't want
3:00:54
to drown here. Build a Noah's Ark. Good luck, Canada. We love
3:01:00
you.
3:01:02
John C Dvorak: And that can send some films as
3:01:05
Adam Curry: I said some footage of fire. We're going to end
3:01:09
appropriately with s and J Shanghai Obama suckin and set.
3:01:16
That should make everybody happy. A little bit of what else
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and a Chris Wilson classic. It's all classics. Coming up next,
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the angry tech news. Sir Ryan bemrose Hey, wait a minute.
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John C Dvorak: This is angry all the time. Does that make any
3:01:36
difference?
3:01:37
Adam Curry: I can't wait to hear that. We're coming to you from
3:01:42
the heart of the Texas Hill Country where it is raining and
3:01:45
the power is still on. FEMA Region number six in the morning
3:01:48
everybody. I'm Adam curry.
3:01:50
John C Dvorak: And I'm from Northern Silicon Valley where I
3:01:52
remain there's no smoke here. I'm John C Devorah. We return
3:01:55
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