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June 11th, 2023 • 2h 58m

1563: Pocket Pardon

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John C Dvorak: He's resorted to being an Uber driver.
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Unknown: Adam curry Jhansi Devora Jr. Live
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Adam Curry: in 2023 This is your award winning nation media
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assassination episode 1563.
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Unknown: This is no agenda,
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Adam Curry: tracking Ted and Trump and broadcasting live from
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the heart of the Texas Hill Country here FEMA Region number
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six in the morning, everybody. I'm Adam curry
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John C Dvorak: from Northern Silicon Valley where I think
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that Microsoft start should end. And I'm John C. Dvorak.
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Adam Curry: Bravo. Well written like that one. Was that a golden
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oldie? From Marty?
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John C Dvorak: No, I wrote that.
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Adam Curry: I like that. That's good. That's a good one. I mean,
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it's out of left field considering the slow news week
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we've had. But yeah, that makes sense.
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John C Dvorak: Microsoft start should end it sucks. What the
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solid is is clickbait.
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Adam Curry: Let me let me click on mine here. What do I get? I
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click on start. Oh, yeah, I've got Disney X Xbox. You're right.
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It's got all this. Do you have new stories? I don't have new
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stories. Yeah, I don't have that. Oh, more, more. More. I
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never use it. I guess I do
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John C Dvorak: know you accidentally use it. That's the
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problem. Now we're gonna be moving around, you hit that
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thing, boom, it pops up whether you like it or not. That's true.
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Loads true.
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Adam Curry: Edge. Edge is always loading as true stupid edge. Oh,
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that things that things a plague the edge and sometimes you have
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to use it for certain no DRM stuff. Now sometimes, if I need
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to get a clip off of Netflix, for example, I can't load that
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with my brave or as you would say bravo browser. Because I
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don't have the DRM stuff loaded in there.
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John C Dvorak: I I run Netflix just on Firefox.
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Adam Curry: Yeah. Okay. Well, yeah, but do you still have to
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have the DRM stuff in there?
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John C Dvorak: I don't know. Yes, I
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Adam Curry: do. You said yes. You said yes. Somewhere along
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the line. Oh, yeah. That's okay. Just tracks you Sorry. So what?
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You know, let's take them but let's take the Gen Z stance on
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that. So what? I'm aware they tracked me. Well, may Professor
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Ted's troubled mind finally be at peace?
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John C Dvorak: Yeah, that's kind of too bad.
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Unknown: One report. Tonight the man nicknamed the Unabomber who
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terrorized the nation with a bombing campaign for almost 20
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years is dead. Ted Kaczynski serving for life sentences plus
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30 years found unresponsive in his North Carolina prison cell
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early this morning. Sources familiar with the incident
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telling ABC News Kaczynski his death is being investigated as a
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possible suicide. The 81 year old Harvard educated
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mathematician who was transferred to a medical prison
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facility 18 months ago for poor health, admitted to 16 bombings
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from 1978 to 1995, killing three people and injuring 23 others.
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In 1995. The Washington Post's along with the New York Times
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printed his 35,000 word manifesto, soon after his own
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brother recognize the Manifesto's tone and tipped off
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the FBI.
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The unit bombers career is over.
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In April of 1996, investigators found Kaczynski in a 10 by 14
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foot plywood cabin near Lincoln, Montana, filled with journals
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explosive material, even to completed bombs. And in his
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manifesto, because insky wrote that his actions were motivated
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by his belief that modern technology was damaging to both
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society and the environment.
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Adam Curry: You know, he's been a staple of the show, not of
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course, not for his killing people. But you got to admit
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that a professor who's so convicted of convinced of his
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convictions, to goes to those extremes had something important
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to say, and of course, they never discussed the so called
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manifesto, which had never chatted names, industrial
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society and its future. And about he was sick, he had
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cancer, he was on death's door for quite a while. So, I mean, I
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don't know if that's true or not that he might he might have
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ended it to get out of his misery. But it's just added in
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there. You know, it's like sources familiar with the
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matter. Okay, fine, you know, to make it sound a little little
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worse, perhaps, but he definitely kill people. That's
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not cool. But we introduced him to the show in 2014. It's been
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in the last I'd say, three, four years, he became really, it was
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kind of a resurgence of popularity. Whereas I think we
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were talking about him a long, long time. In fact, thanks to
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the new being at.io I have the very first time that we
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introduced him to the show would you like to hear Oh, sure, well
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good, where I remind everybody and I've, this is an episode,
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September 6 2014. So nine years ago, Episode 647. And I was in
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Amsterdam at the time, for your convenience. I've put a copy in
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the shownotes of a document, which has, which was written by
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a Harvard, I think he the guy went to Harvard when he was 16,
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and he graduated summa cum laude. Like record time, he was
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teaching at Harvard. And he was very, very worried about
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technology. Eventually enslaving people enslaving us. Oh, no,
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yes. And no, here in the Netherlands. There's a crisis of
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bicycles. There's so many bicycles now in the Netherlands
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it is. Maybe it's just because I haven't been here in a while
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that I see it now. But people are riding on their bikes and
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the Dutch are very good at riding bikes. They're so good.
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There's rarely an accident and don't wear helmets and knee
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pads. And, you know, they got a kid in the front, a kid on the
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back that cared, they got the groceries on the handlebars. And
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while they're biking, they're holding up their smartphone in
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front of their face. Mind you, this is not a 2014 googling or
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texting. It is unbelievable.
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John C Dvorak: Selfies on well biking now not necessarily
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selfies,
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Adam Curry: but they're just in there interacting with their
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cell phone with their smartphone while they're bicycling. And
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they have headphones in connected to the smartphone. And
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this is not this is not a rare occurrence. You see this
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everywhere in the city. So I recommend you go read this
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document. The document is called industrial society and its
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future and it's in the NA tech sub folder. They're written by a
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guy named Theodore some call them Ted Kaczynski. And you're
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also known as the Unabomber. So you may want to read this
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manifesto because what is happening today the piece you
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just heard the enslavement through these these devices is
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precisely what he warned for. I'm not endorsed I get it.
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John C Dvorak: That was a good one. Thank you. Ah, every single
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bit since then has been pretty much the same.
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Adam Curry: I mean, every bit we do every because it's every bit
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day
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John C Dvorak: you do
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Adam Curry: the one other thing I want a man to quote random
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John C Dvorak: quote from me saying that's unbelievable.
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Anyone would ever say that. Oh, wait a minute.
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Adam Curry: The gag works. The gag just keeps on working.
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John C Dvorak: I let it work.
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Adam Curry: Thank you. Thank you for appeasing everyone. But the
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one thing that we added to that is the under educated and over
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socialized as Kaczynski suggesting the manifesto over
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socialization occurs when individuals are subjected to
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norms values, expectations imposed by society, primarily
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through the educational system. Hello, hello pronouns. He argued
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this process stifles individually individual
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autonomy, creativity, self determination. And of course
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over socialization, according to this document leads to
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conformity, loss of critical thinking as individuals become
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absorbed in maintaining social roles and meeting societal
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expectations. Well, I'd say we shouldn't read that, should we?
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John C Dvorak: Well, you're lucky because nobody does.
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Adam Curry: Here's something I did not know. Do you know who
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the person was at Department of Justice? Who really brought him
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in and in and prosecuted him?
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John C Dvorak: Call me Garland
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Adam Curry: in Garland Merrick Garland our current attorney
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general Yeah, that's what I said. Hmm. I did not know that.
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He also did the the Oklahoma City bombing. This was all under
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Janet Reno. And so yes, he was in and he left me Well, I guess
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he wanted to pick it
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John C Dvorak: was Reno according to one report out I
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listen to it was it was Rena who insisted against all the
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complaining about the idea that the New York Times in the post
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published a manifesto she was the one who had to push it
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through.
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Adam Curry: Oh, so she she she was the one that said Do we have
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to do it?
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John C Dvorak: Yeah, we have to do it because maybe that's the
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only chancellor has somebody can identify him from some. Just we
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just got to push this. Yeah, well, and there were no no you
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can't do that. You're giving him a voice and giving him a
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platform other people Do the same thing, which is what they
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would say.
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Adam Curry: Yeah, I got a I got a lot of emails from people
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saying, Don't you dare aggrandized him Don't you? Don't
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you say rip? He's he doesn't. People really like, you know,
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John C Dvorak: people were well, we aggrandized his his writing.
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Yes.
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Adam Curry: It's, that's not even I guess that's not that's
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not done. You can't aggrandized you can't say his writing was
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good. That's not you can't do that. Can't do that.
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John C Dvorak: Well, he was right on one thing. I have a
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series of clips about our mass shooting here in San Francisco.
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Adam Curry: It's hard to believe but we had a mass shooting in
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San Francisco. Did I miss this? Yeah, you did. Oh, man. Okay,
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what happened?
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John C Dvorak: Well, some maniac drive by in the Mission District
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of all places. Shot up a bunch of nine people shot no, it
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didn't kill anybody.
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Adam Curry: Oh, no one killed. Oh, that's why we didn't hear
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about it. No, good. No good.
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John C Dvorak: That's okay. They pushed it pushed it and pushed
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it into the gun to Hogan. But there's a kicker to this a three
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parter. Here's the basic story of mass shooting San Francisco
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one
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Unknown: outrage in San Francisco's Mission District
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after a shooting there leaves nine people wounded. And police
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tonight still trying to find those behind the gunfire. Good
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evening, everyone. I'm Heather Holmes. Doctors believe that all
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nine of those victims from last night's shooting will survive.
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reaction to this recent case of gun violence though in the city
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continues to pour in. Including a new statement from
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Congresswoman Nancy Pelosi who tweeted today. San Franciscans
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are praying for those wounded and last night's horrific
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shooting and the mission and their loved ones. Thanks to our
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first responders and medical professionals. No lives were
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lost. The investigation continues but we know this. We
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must end the scourge of gun violence. Nancy Pelosi says Kate
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who saved detling joins us now live from our newsroom with what
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other people in the community are saying about this shooting.
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David and Heather will city leaders who spoke out on last
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night's violence say they're committing resources to those
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impacted and for the first time we're hearing from one of the
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businesses impacted by last night's drive by shooting. The
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storefront of clothing brand dying breed and mission
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skateboards remained closed and locked up Saturday. The
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skateboard shop posting to Facebook saying we watched our
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friends and neighbors selflessly tend to the wounded. Without
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question. Our peers were the best and bravest grateful every
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one survived. Its customers aren't shocked after last night
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shooting in the Mission District.
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I don't know why this this is like a neutral store.
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San Francisco Police say the drive by shooting happened at
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24th Street entry Avenue just after nine as a clothing store
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was celebrating its sixth anniversary with a block party.
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why anyone would shoot into the crowd is puzzling to Ramon
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Carrasco,
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only skaters come here and they're not affiliated. So I'm
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thinking of why they do that. He there was some personal Vyas
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first of all, Sunday person or I don't know why. It just doesn't
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make sense to me.
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One thing police are saying is that this was an isolated and
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targeted incident.
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Adam Curry: No, okay. This is interesting to skate store,
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which I just heard is a neutral store.
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John C Dvorak: Yes. Neutral and not affiliated. You catch this
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language? Yes. Yeah. As a gang province, Cisco. They're not
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addressing it sounds like it. Yeah. So instead we go to the
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they people that come in with some comments and the people
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include all the people that were for defunding the police and
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they broke up the gang unit and everything with their nerdy with
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their two cents of San Francisco to
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Unknown: San Francisco Mayor London breed denouncing the
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crime that left nine people ages 19 to 35 injured.
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This is definitely heartbreaking and challenging, not just for
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the mission community before our city as a whole.
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Also sounding off San Francisco supervisor Hillary Ronen. In a
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statement she said in part, she's extremely grateful for the
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first responders who rendered aid during the horrific act of
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gun violence, adding her office will provide support to the
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community to address the impacts of this traumatizing event.
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Senator Scott Weiner also responded in a tweet calling the
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mass shooting both terrifying and tragic. He went on to say
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given the tidal wave of guns in the US, no community is immune
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from gun violence and that everyone must work to put an end
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to gun violence. The mayor pledged assistance telling the
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public those responsible will be caught
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John C Dvorak: and released. Yes, now. Okay, so that's the
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story. But there's a little kicker to this story, which is
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the part where Ted Kaczynski comes in. And this is like, this
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is becoming a huge problem in California, San Francisco in
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particular. But in this instance, we hit you. This is
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like Oh, Real jaw dropper and this is gonna be a common story
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around the country. You heard it here first on on the no agenda
15:07
show.
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Unknown: The San Francisco based autonomous vehicle company Cruz
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is facing some criticism tonight tied to that shooting. Emergency
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Medical and fire. I can't get it out of here now. Okay Twitter
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user posted this video last night. You can hear the
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frustration of a police officer there who watched this cruise
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vehicle with no one inside. Get close to the crime scene, cruise
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tweeted a response to the situation saying like all of us
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in San Francisco we are saddened by this tragic event in our home
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city. Our thoughts are with the victims and families and we wish
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them all a full recovery. Our car initially stopped as it was
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approaching an active emergency scene then proceeded to perform
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a U turn and pull over. Throughout this time all
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vehicles including emergency response vehicles, we're able to
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proceed around our car. We're thankful to all of our first
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responders for helping to keep us safe during situations like
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this. And the company goes on to say that it is committed to
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working collaboratively collaboratively with them
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John C Dvorak: wow wow so the cars are programmed to stop when
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there's lights and siren yes so it stopped right in the middle
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of the scene. Nobody inside that when you heard do is to clip of
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the cop yelling at the car that he looks there's nobody inside
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the car
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Adam Curry: right this is not a clip of the cop yelling at the
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car that's empty this clip that's good for the day is what
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it is
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John C Dvorak: a whole anyway so the COP is yelling at this car
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get out of the way you're in the way of emergency vehicles and
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then he looks as there's nobody in the car the cars just stopped
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in the middle of the street and so they claim it turned around
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at bull crap we don't see any evidence of that because
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somebody filmed the whole thing and this is happening all over
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the city where these cars now just jam nobody inside they just
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go into an intersection and stop in the middle they stop because
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there's a they see a flashing light or some do some you know
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they've determined that this is an emergency they have to stop
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they stop in the middle of this crime scene
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Adam Curry: what they call that artificial intelligence yeah AI
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and as best artificial intelligence very intelligent
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move how could they not have thought about this? Or at least
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if it's happened once maybe change the out good or the
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intelligence
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John C Dvorak: did they're never going to fix this problem? No
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Jay sees it like a big nut about this stuff and he says there's
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so much there's so many reasons and so deep you it doesn't take
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hardly anything to screw up one of these cars in there and you
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know you just put a just paint over a stop sign or just right
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to work stop on a 60 mile an hour sign I mean there's a lot
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of things you can do in this and they think just can't they can't
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discern cards. That's what that is. Yeah so this so this was the
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kind of the kicker the whole story which is stupid. Stop
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right in the middle of the situation. Forget
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Adam Curry: to forget the gang problem. This is the problem.
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And you're not you know how man it is and it is a problem they
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should get rid San Francisco is a testing ground for everything
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from vo killing people with crack pipes to this.
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John C Dvorak: Yeah. No doubt about it. It's dangerous place.
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Adam Curry: Something that you probably I don't know. I have
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not seen it on the news or no report but we have people
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everywhere from boots on the ground anonymous of course on
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the afternoon of June 10 2023 Lafayette Louisiana Parish
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Sheriff's office responded to a bomb threat at Target. Target
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were informed of it via email stating quote You have betrayed
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the LGBT community.
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John C Dvorak: Ah
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Adam Curry: I don't know if we want to laugh, laugh about it.
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But
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John C Dvorak: it's what it was expected. Yes,
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Adam Curry: we knew it. We'd said this what
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John C Dvorak: he predicted it. I
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Adam Curry: said, I guess there was a big, big LGBTQ day at the
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White House. I only know this that again. I didn't see I
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haven't been watching a lot of mainstream per se and it's just
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been filled wall to wall Trump
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John C Dvorak: Trump tro they hung a big progressive pride
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flag. Yes. outside, outside and in parallel or above which is
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against the flag regulations.
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Adam Curry: The American flag Yeah, no, you can't do that. You
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can that's against the the flag isn't their flag.
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John C Dvorak: They're hanging vertically. And it was it wasn't
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above it in like out a hole. Okay. It was just kind of above
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just in in in perspective. It's not
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Adam Curry: the spirit of at all, it's not the spirit of the
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Flag Law. Anyway, I will be getting the full lowdown on The
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Next Episode of pivot with Kara Swisher and Prof. G so I can't
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that's why um, because you know, she was invited Of course, that
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she teased ON THE PREVIOUS EPISODE we all all the gays are
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going to be at the White House. That's exactly how she said it.
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Okay. And of course President Biden did not
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John C Dvorak: support all the gays at the White House anyway.
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There it is.
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Adam Curry: President Biden did not disappoint as commander in
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Unknown: chief. I was proud to have ended the ban on
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transgender Americans.
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Adam Curry: Yeah, baby. There's nothing like transgender
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Americans.
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John C Dvorak: Okay, I got it. I got it. We're on that. True
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dough.
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Adam Curry: Okay. This is old by the way. You got duped on this.
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This is an old clip. I got duped by Foley. Yes, it lots of people
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sent this to me. This is n and the way to check that is is
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being a.io but I'll play it but it's an old clip.
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John C Dvorak: But we've never played it before. Have
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Adam Curry: we most definitely have. Most definitely. Yes.
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Because I checked it.
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John C Dvorak: Okay, was lost. We most definitely played it and
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I'll go along with it. I will never
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Adam Curry: play it. We might as well play it.
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John C Dvorak: It's funny. I've never heard this clip before.
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Adam Curry: If you want I can look it up but I know you trust
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me.
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Unknown: I will never apologize for standing up for
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Adam Curry: LGD P L GT LBG. LGBTQ two plus kids rights Yeah.
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That's the one reprise the best topper I've got for you. I can
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actually tell you which Episode It was. Trudeau
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John C Dvorak: you sure it was played on the Episode or just in
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advance?
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Adam Curry: No, I'm sure we played it because yes, we played
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it and if you want I'll have a I can. It will take me a moment to
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find it in the system. I don't want to go trust me. I know you
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trust
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John C Dvorak: I have. I have as as we're doing this sort of
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thing. I do have a correction. Oh, okay. And that is the My
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thing about the boxtops.
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Adam Curry: Oh, yes. You said it was it was the boxtops with the
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letter that had the sitar in it, but instead what was it?
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John C Dvorak: It was the have it right here. Here it is, is
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the right band. sitar update, which is everything's wrong.
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Writing there's just terrible.
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Adam Curry: Hold on a second. The right bands.
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John C Dvorak: To 10 seconds of the song. Yeah, it is the
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boxtops
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Adam Curry: I'm looking I'm looking in your clips. I can't
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see. It should
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John C Dvorak: be right band. Are I? Oh,
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Adam Curry: boy. Yes. Okay.
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What was it? What's the name of the song by the I like a baby?
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Oh, that's before my time. So the Boxtop was still like I
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think was 70. So that's why
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John C Dvorak: the Box Tops. It was the same group that did
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that. I just missed a
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Adam Curry: song and it's okay. You're right. It's fine. That's
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fine. Now here's
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John C Dvorak: the so I was trying to somebody sent me the
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one of producers cry like a baby. So I went and got a clip
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short. You know, ask kept short enough clip.
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Adam Curry: Yeah, yeah. No such thing. But yeah. Well,
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John C Dvorak: I understood that it's under 10 seconds is legal.
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So like, we care. Yeah.
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Adam Curry: I want to get back I want to get back to the White
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John C Dvorak: House drives. Let's just say something. When
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they showed the video of this crappy band playing. They show
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him playing a regular guitar with that sound.
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Adam Curry: Lame, lame. That was already late. That was in the
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video, the YouTube video lane. Yeah, away. I just want we
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didn't do any of this on the last show. Some of these are
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carry overs the trans Maoism which is appropriate to talk
24:13
about now since the White House did a big thing about the trans
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jesters in America. So let's see, what's the term you're
24:21
using trans Jester? That's what the President just said. Trans
24:25
Joe. He said transgender. You want to hear it again? Yeah,
24:29
because
24:29
John C Dvorak: I thought he said something else
24:30
Unknown: as commander in chief always proud to have entered the
24:33
ban on transgender Americans,
24:34
Adam Curry: transgender transgender Americans, which I'm
24:38
a transgender American identify we
24:40
Unknown: are for sure. Well, now they're back to the same anti
24:42
gay playbook in 2020 24. The issue is transgender because
24:47
we're past of gay marriage. That ship has sailed and this is this
24:51
idea of driving people to the polls, through fear through
24:55
anger through eggs, through the stress through the we know that
25:00
The paranoia and hysteria that you got to get rid of Trump.
25:04
These are coming for your children. Let me tell you that
25:06
no,
25:06
Adam Curry: no, no, no, no, no, this No, no, I'm
25:08
John C Dvorak: just saying what she's saying.
25:09
Adam Curry: What she's saying is, you gotta get rid of
25:11
DeSantis. This is anti.
25:15
John C Dvorak: What I'm saying. Her generalization about this
25:18
trying to scare people to the polls, is what they did with
25:21
Trump in 2020. Yes,
25:23
Adam Curry: correct. This is all political,
25:25
Unknown: that the paranoia and hysteria that drag queens are
25:29
coming for your children, people let me tell you this. Drag
25:32
Queens don't even like children. They don't tip. Don't drink. And
25:40
to me this is this is so contrary to the idea of parental
25:45
choice. No child is driving themselves to a drag show. And
25:50
so I would say Ron DeSantis First, I would say to all the
25:52
drag queens for the month of June Pride Month, let's
25:55
celebrate by changing your names to Rhonda Santas.
26:00
Adam Curry: Rhonda Santas, there ya go. This is appropriate in
26:05
the Yes, actually, I
26:07
John C Dvorak: think that's kind of funny.
26:09
Adam Curry: Rhonda, Santa Rhonda Santas. Wow. All right, Anna
26:12
Devaraj gets a point from JCD. Now, I just want to show the
26:18
extent of this of the political nature, because it's it's one
26:22
thing to medically alter these children, you could say abuse.
26:27
It's another to abuse them for political means. And this one is
26:30
far as Deutsche Avella and Deutsche Avella. Pure CIA
26:36
operation, they take all of the info from whatever CIA tells
26:39
them to do they do. And this is that weird political
26:44
correspondent who's in Washington DC. She goes because
26:48
this child was at the White House for the big trans jester
26:52
day. And they did a piece on on this child who was from Florida.
26:58
Unknown: Dempsey is an 11 year old girl and stuffed animals. It
27:03
was born because of biological boy. She lives with her parents
27:08
in Florida.
27:10
She started putting cadang pajama pants on her head and
27:14
making pretend that was hair.
27:16
Adam Curry: There you go. That's how it started when you put your
27:19
pajama pants on your head. That's how it starts. Wow. So
27:25
now listen to these parents being abused with this child for
27:29
political means Ron DeSantis
27:30
Unknown: might become the next president of the United States.
27:35
Yes, he might. That terrifies me. It terrifies me. We have our
27:47
passports updated?
27:49
No.
27:50
Do we have exit plans in place? Yes. If that happens, we're
27:54
going to have to leave the country. And I've never lived
27:59
anywhere outside the United States we've traveled.
28:01
John C Dvorak: But you won't.
28:03
Unknown: I don't I don't know. I'm terrified. Well, I mean,
28:07
just looking at what he's done just in Ford. And it's not just
28:10
against clans going against everybody. Immigrants. It slaps
28:15
people. So anything that he doesn't like it's just sat
28:18
that's just silence. And when will he stop in? That's what I
28:22
often say to people. It's like it might not be affecting you
28:24
yet. But they will come for you next. And that's the scary part.
28:29
All the people are doing and taking away my rights. It's just
28:33
not okay.
28:34
Adam Curry: For see how the child has been prompted to say
28:37
all the people taking away my rights. Yeah, that's bold. This
28:41
is just not has to be. Yeah, he has to does a script for the
28:45
kid. Yeah. And it's, it's so wrong. I mean, it's just not
28:49
true. That's true. And it's just as bad as saying, you know, the
28:53
euphemism of gender affirming care? No. And you're not taking
28:59
no right to being taken away. This is scripting a kid a 12
29:03
year old
29:03
Unknown: next. And that's the scary part.
29:07
All the people are doing and taking away my rights. It's just
29:10
not okay for kids like me. And I get really scared to just walk
29:17
out of my home because I'm just like, there's going to be that
29:20
one person that's always going to be like, scared of me
29:26
thinking like a monster or something. But I'm not.
29:30
I know you'd have an invitation to the White House. What does
29:33
this mean for you that President Biden invites you into kids
29:37
proud on was just overwhelmed. So
29:41
Adam Curry: that's that's the music they put in. They gotta
29:43
have a little bit of cello. They put
29:44
John C Dvorak: some some low, some low, some minor key music
29:48
in there to make you feel bad. Correct.
29:52
Unknown: And now you have an invitation to the White House.
29:55
What does this mean for you that President Biden invites you into
29:57
kids
30:00
John C Dvorak: Proud on, overwhelmed? Like, how did we
30:06
get here? You know, what would you tell him?
30:10
Unknown: Keep doing what you're doing. And please fight harder
30:14
for my rights and other kids like me, like
30:19
kids like Dempsey, currently have the full support of the
30:22
President of the United States. However, that could change after
30:27
next year's presidential elections.
30:32
Adam Curry: Dramatic and Big Finish? Yeah, yeah. That's
30:40
propaganda. And, of course, I think the whole report is
30:44
longer. And I encourage anyone to go in and show notes and look
30:48
at it. Because these parents, I don't want to say that they're
30:53
horrible parents, they have been completely propagandize and
30:57
hypnotized and have been, there's a spell on them from the
31:01
medical community, and from the teachers and the other
31:04
therapists. So the system is really what is doing this, I
31:07
don't want to say these parents are horrible. Because they're
31:11
just they've been sucked up into this belief, which is no
31:14
different from COVID, and vaccines, et cetera, et cetera.
31:17
Now, when it comes to m, five m, in in the UK who are there, in
31:24
some ways, they're a little bit further along, they close down,
31:26
not all the clinics are gone. But they did close down the big
31:29
one. They have, including Scandinavia, they said hold on a
31:33
second. We don't have any long term trials. They're not saying
31:35
that transgenderism in children doesn't exist. They're saying we
31:39
shouldn't be transitioning them medically, without some long
31:42
term studies. Most studies don't go back further than 2019.
31:45
Coincidentally, just before the lockdowns but the media has
31:50
taken it a step too far. And BBC got a lot of pushback over their
31:56
show casualty, which is a I think it's I think it's drama.
32:02
But it's like reality. It's about an emergency room. It's a
32:07
I think it's drama slash reality show. And here's a little piece
32:10
from of course, GB news, who was talking about the pushback.
32:13
Well, let's
32:14
Unknown: move on and do this latest story about the BBC drama
32:17
casualty Lewis.
32:18
Yeah, BBC criticized the non binary, binary casualty
32:22
character discussing top surgery. And it's for the show
32:26
casually, which I've never seen. It's on the state, the state
32:29
propaganda network, the BBC, and and they just the characters
32:34
were discussing at 8:20pm, which is before the watershed, what
32:38
they call top surgery, because it just sounds so much nicer
32:42
than what's actually what's actually happening.
32:45
Adam Curry: So there was a lot of pushback. People did not like
32:47
that they thought it was inappropriate. They didn't think
32:49
it was appropriate to have it in the script. Not so in the United
32:54
States. And I'm going to trod on your turf here for a moment,
32:58
though, I will freely admit this was the clip custodian who put
33:01
this quick package together. recent episode of Law and Order.
33:06
Actually, I'm surprised you didn't maybe have you stopped
33:09
watching Law and Order.
33:11
John C Dvorak: Haven't been watching it recently. Much. Oh,
33:14
good. So this can turn into a very slow moving story. I know
33:18
there's a lot of virtue signaling in those clips is
33:22
clickable.
33:23
Adam Curry: The Norman Lear Hollywood foundation is no
33:26
longer talking about this
33:27
John C Dvorak: sort of thing. I'm gonna bring in a clip of
33:29
Yellowstone. It's the worst show ever.
33:34
Adam Curry: Do you have a clip of Yellowstone? No,
33:36
John C Dvorak: I don't. But I'm telling ya.
33:39
Adam Curry: A lot of people like it. Law and order. This episode
33:44
is about a doctor treating a trans teen who was killed by the
33:49
teens angry father, but they throw you off a little bit and
33:53
make it seem like the conservative law maker wife was
33:57
the target because of her anti LGBTQ agenda. Now there's a
34:02
kicker to this, but let's just listen to I think it starts with
34:05
the cops talking to so that the dad has been killed. Or the
34:11
ANGRY DAD has killed the doctor. And
34:15
John C Dvorak: we have to stop. I need to know which law and
34:18
order this is Law and Order law, per se. Is it law and order?
34:22
SVU? Is that law and order organized crime?
34:25
Adam Curry: I will get that answer for you in moments from
34:28
the troll room. Now here's the first clip.
34:30
Unknown: Congresswoman, do you know anybody who wanted to harm
34:32
your husband?
34:33
This isn't about him. He was a saint. This is about me. This is
34:39
about my political views. This is my fault. What do you mean
34:44
it's your fault? That was supposed to be me. I was
34:47
scheduled to be here all day, but I got called into the office
34:49
last minute for an emergency committee meeting.
34:52
What makes you so sure that you were the intended target?
34:55
I'm a conservative Congresswoman in a state where admitting that
34:59
out loud ism Mortal sin. I'm constantly receiving threats in
35:03
the minds of Fartlek activist I'm literally the devil.
35:07
Any of those threads stand out in particular.
35:11
Last week, there was an email. And they said that they would
35:16
kill me in my own home.
35:23
No, it was anonymous, I just had flagged the message for my
35:27
security team.
35:28
Adam Curry: So now we're going to find out about the message
35:32
that was sent.
35:35
Unknown: You won't know when but one day soon you'll turn around
35:37
and I'll be there in your house with no one around to save you.
35:42
Message Sent from an IP address registered in your name? Yeah, I
35:45
sent it. I should probably know better. But frankly, she
35:48
deserved it. Because I'm a drag queen. I started a program read
35:52
the house down. Once a week me and other queens volunteer to
35:57
read to kids from the community. You do what a drag will the idea
36:01
is to get kids excited about reading by making it fun. Are
36:05
drag queens more of a adult thing. Track is just a
36:08
celebration of who you are. The kids love it. It makes it fun.
36:12
There's nothing fun about sending a threat to that
36:14
Congresswoman, I was being dramatic. But Bart's hell
36:16
introduced a bill that would ban children from being exposed to
36:19
drag queens. It's a coded way of telling the crazies out there
36:22
that we're pedophiles is part of all kinds of online hate. So I
36:25
thought she should know what it felt like. You seem angry. Damn
36:29
right. I am. Are you aware enough to show up at Kristen
36:31
Martel's house yesterday morning.
36:33
Adam Curry: This I find this very very dangerous. What am I
36:36
John C Dvorak: okay, i This is the new law and order. This show
36:42
they rebuilt the tentpole was was law and order and then they
36:46
had all these spin offs. And they took law and order off the
36:49
air. And they brought it back. I don't know a year or two ago
36:56
it's unwatchable. Do you and yeah, I guess treading on my
37:01
territory because I was supposed to check these out. This
37:04
particular show is this is all at every episode. You can get
37:08
clips like this on every episode of the show. It is so bad. I
37:13
don't know why they're doing this show. Why Dick Wolf came
37:16
back and he's doing it. It was some I always get the impression
37:21
that they somebody blackmailed him to do it.
37:25
Adam Curry: Yeah, probably
37:26
John C Dvorak: one on watchable while people are
37:29
Adam Curry: watching it. It's it's Law and Order WVU. I think
37:34
woke victim unit I gotta give that one to the troll room. So
37:42
now we found out here's the reveal. reveal who, who was who
37:47
was killed now.
37:48
Unknown: Meyers threatened to kill Ryan a few months ago. They
37:53
had a meeting at our house in Ryan's office. They talked about
37:57
the puberty blockers, the treatments, the side effects.
38:00
And Meyers went nuts. He started screaming. I overheard the whole
38:04
thing.
38:07
We need you to testify. Let me guess you're worried about your
38:12
base discovering that you knew your husband was treating a
38:15
trans kid.
38:17
My husband is dead. Can I miss him terribly. Right now I need
38:22
to worry about me. My career. My future. This is the only thing
38:27
that I have left.
38:28
Adam Curry: So this this is I guess it's kind of like Marjorie
38:31
Taylor Greene. You know, it's like, I don't care about my dead
38:33
husband. I've got to care about my career.
38:35
John C Dvorak: Now, this is the kind of virtue signaling that is
38:38
just show is filled with it. And it's all everything is there's
38:43
all subtext the entire show is subtext. And in this case,
38:48
you're listening today and it would propagandistic subtext. So
38:51
you're listening to somebody the only reasons a person is a right
38:55
winger or a conservative is because they're insincere. And I
39:00
was thinking about this insincerity factor, which is
39:02
like people on both sides of this of the big debate. Think
39:07
the other side's essentially insincere. Because how can you
39:11
think that way? When it's so obvious, I'm right and you're
39:15
wrong. And the only reason you're thinking that way is
39:17
because you're insincere. And the conservatives do it to the
39:20
liberals, do we on this show, we always assume we don't always
39:24
assume we suggest that occasionally somebody is
39:27
insincere on the other side, and we use the self correct because
39:32
it's the nature of the show. That no, they're dead sincere
39:35
when they say that, you know, they believe that global warming
39:38
is gonna kill us all in five years and six years now, and
39:41
they've convinced their kids and their kids are now nuts. But,
39:44
and it's all since but it's sincere. It's not like they're
39:47
lying. No, that this this subtext that they're pushing on
39:50
this particular show is sickening.
39:54
Adam Curry: And then the kicker of course, is who really killed
39:58
the doctor, your husband? Bend,
40:01
Unknown: claimed that Dr. Bartell attacked him to cover up
40:05
the doctor's crime treating Taylor without parental consent.
40:10
But Martel wasn't committing a crime because you gave him
40:15
permission.
40:17
I felt like we kept getting it wrong. That no matter what
40:21
choice we made, he was hurting Taylor.
40:25
John C Dvorak: Could I guess who did it? Yeah, sure. Because it's
40:29
Taylor.
40:32
Adam Curry: No, Taylor is the kid. The kid didn't do it. They
40:36
just listen. That no matter what choice we made, oh, she was
40:40
hurting. Yeah, sure that she didn't try to hurt herself
40:46
again. Here count here comes your kicker
40:57
Unknown: but I thought it was better to support our daughter
41:01
than to mourn the death of her son.
41:06
Oh, that's the
41:06
Adam Curry: line. That's the line right there.
41:09
John C Dvorak: Yeah, I said that line in the last show. As you
41:11
recall. Yes. You better have a live daughter than a dead son or
41:15
a live son than a dead daughter. Yeah. And that of course is a
41:18
piece of propaganda that they threw out right in that show and
41:20
again, it brings out the fact that this woman is a hypocrite
41:24
because she's insincere and liar and because the perspective of
41:30
the show his left so the everyone on the right is
41:32
insincere. There's no such thing as a sincere conservatives
41:37
there's how can that be? There's no no people don't believe in
41:41
that campaign. The people the religious folks, they don't
41:43
believe in anything. No. Like me. They're an atheist. They're
41:46
all atheists.
41:50
Adam Curry: The wrap this up a boots on the ground from Petra,
41:54
Petra from the Netherlands. And this is what we used to call a
41:59
feminist. A true feminist and the feminists have lost their
42:03
voice in this whole Oh, they're
42:05
John C Dvorak: gone. Okay, well,
42:06
Adam Curry: they're still here. tariffs. Yes, the tariffs.
42:09
Apparently, they still listen to the show, and I wanted to share
42:11
what she said. We have one, the term one tariff is here. I know
42:19
it's horrible what's happening to peer induced trans pressure
42:21
for kids. It's an opt to divide us and Big Pharma is evil. So
42:25
she just stated up front, but after seeing what is a woman
42:28
that's the Matt Walsh, film slash number, a documentary but
42:31
film something else dawned on me. She says, I am a physically
42:35
strong woman, I do blacksmithing and work as a handy woman. I do
42:39
floors, wallpaper paint, electricity gardens, I help
42:42
people move vendor out. I do this because I like the work.
42:46
But every single job we do, the client is always commenting on
42:50
how strong I am. Where they never were. They never do this
42:54
to my male co workers at least once a month I get asked in one
42:57
way or the other if I'm gay. I'm not. People always are
43:01
questioning my femininity until they see me in a dress. Why
43:04
can't I be strong and feminine. At the same time, the daughter
43:08
of a dear friend of mine was struggling with their gender
43:11
identity when she was 12. Though she wanted to thought she wanted
43:14
to be a boy. But when I talked to her alone, she said she
43:17
didn't want to be pushed into a woman's role. At the same time,
43:22
she was already seeing a therapist Of course, school was
43:24
already confirming she could be everything she wants to be. But
43:28
I think all she wanted to be was just herself and for that not
43:31
judged by society. And I can totally relate to that. Maybe if
43:35
we stop the expectation that women must be pink princesses we
43:38
could at least solve part of the problem. Love your show. Yeah, I
43:45
think that's wise words. Very wise words. Yeah. So that's all
43:54
I really have to say. I mean, there's lots of other stuff.
43:56
Pottery Barn. Nike, everyone's in trouble. Everyone's in
44:00
trouble, trouble, trouble trouble. I did want to read this
44:05
one blurb that
44:07
John C Dvorak: I liked the ones there's there's a whole slew of
44:09
these. I had one somebody sent me. Another one of these. I put
44:12
one in the newsletter. All these next Sunday is Father's Day.
44:18
Yes. I hope we get more donations than we did today.
44:21
Holy
44:21
Adam Curry: crap, kidding.
44:25
John C Dvorak: There's all these companies that are sending out
44:28
these emails pre eat pre Father's Day email saying if you
44:31
don't want to get any Father's Day stuff, let us know. We know
44:34
it's offensive to a lot of you. This is when did Father's Day
44:39
become offensive?
44:43
Adam Curry: Recently,
44:44
John C Dvorak: just this year, as far as I can tell, it's like
44:46
just the next next step.
44:48
Adam Curry: I don't recall it from previous
44:50
John C Dvorak: years. No, this is all new.
44:52
Adam Curry: So, Elliott page, formerly known as Ellen pay sure
45:00
think gelid yet Elon did an interview with Los Angeles Times
45:04
and discussed Ellen's Elliott's transition to transition, and
45:12
I'm just going to read verbatim from this new LA Times piece.
45:17
One night he tried to knock himself out, took his knuckles
45:21
to his face and pounded over and over again until bruises formed.
45:25
Four days after he sat in a lawn chair on the porch ashamed, his
45:29
face sore, and then he heard a voice. You don't have to feel
45:33
this way. It was a small voice barely discernible, but it kept
45:36
echoing in his head away out. It was as if something in my brain
45:41
turned around recalls page now 36, the agonizing voice saying
45:45
no, you're not. No, you can't just switch and become very
45:48
gentle and loving. Oh, maybe I'm trans. Why don't I explore that.
45:52
Within weeks, he'd scheduled a zoom consultation with a doctor
45:55
to discuss top surgery. The procedure was scheduled for
45:58
November a month later, he announced fans on Instagram who
46:01
have known him since the release of Juno 13 years prior that his
46:04
name was Elliot. There's something else going on here.
46:09
This is a mental condition that led to this analysis by a zoom
46:14
consult consultant. If if you are pounding yourself in the
46:19
face, there's something else there's something going on that
46:22
needs to be looked at. And the answer just can't be top surgery
46:26
every single time. I just found that shocking that that that
46:32
that's I was hearing voices. I was pounding my face tops,
46:36
John C Dvorak: hearing voices. You get issues
46:40
Adam Curry: could be autism can be all kinds of stuff. It's just
46:44
John C Dvorak: wow. Well, autism isn't necessarily connected to
46:47
hearing voices. But
46:48
Adam Curry: it could be I'm just saying it seems like there's
46:51
something going on. The main thing is that maybe we need to
46:56
look at the point.
46:57
John C Dvorak: Well, let me let me this back up. So you're,
46:59
you're there pounding yourself in the face with your own fist.
47:04
And you can't stop yourself and you're here and you're starting
47:07
to hear voices. And the conclusion is, there's something
47:11
wrong. No, you
47:11
Adam Curry: need top surgery. That's the conclusion. top
47:13
surgery. 60 minutes, 60 minutes, I'll do it. 60 minutes,
47:16
everybody hit their tunnels, what's going on?
47:19
Unknown: The US Surgeon General has called it an urgent public
47:22
health crisis, a devastating decline in the mental health of
47:26
kids across the country. According to the CDC, the rates
47:30
of suicide, self harm, anxiety and depression are up among
47:35
adolescents stop surgery for all of you a trend that began before
47:39
the pandemic. Last May, we took you to Milwaukee, Wisconsin, a
47:43
community trying to help its kids navigate a mental health
47:47
crisis. Wisconsin has the fifth highest increase of adolescent
47:52
self harm and attempted suicide in the country, with rates
47:56
nearly doubling since before the pandemic.
47:59
Adam Curry: So that's the lead in you can watch the whole
48:01
thing. But I thought more interesting is how these
48:05
children are being treated initially. According to Dr. Jen
48:10
from ABCs. Good Morning, America,
48:12
Unknown: Dr. Chan back with us. And we're starting to see a
48:15
difference in the way that anxiety is being treated. This
48:18
has kind of evolved over time
48:19
in the pediatric population. And this is based on a new study
48:22
done by the American Academy of Pediatrics
48:25
Adam Curry: now the academy, American Academy of Pediatrics.
48:28
Yeah, they can commission a study. They are a a business
48:32
group. Let's just make that clear. They're a business group.
48:36
They're a lobbying group. Yeah, it's
48:38
John C Dvorak: a lobbying operation. So
48:39
Adam Curry: it's not like they're the pharma company. Yes,
48:41
thank you all over time
48:43
Unknown: in the pediatric population. And this is based on
48:45
a new study done by the American Academy of Pediatrics, and they
48:48
looked at children of all ages up into the age of 24, over the
48:53
last 10 plus years or so, and looked at provider.
48:58
John C Dvorak: Yes, children at the age of 24. That's what they
49:06
call what Luke considers a 24 year old, a child.
49:10
Adam Curry: Well, these are the ones who are still living at
49:12
home with their parents.
49:15
John C Dvorak: I don't care if they're living, I don't care
49:17
where they're living at 24 years old, no matter how you're
49:20
living. You're not a child.
49:24
Adam Curry: I would say according to the insurance rules
49:27
you are because you're allowed to stay on your parent's
49:29
insurance until 26. That's probably why this is looked at
49:34
as children, but I not that I'm arguing with you,
49:38
Unknown: children of all ages, up until the age of 24, over the
49:41
last 10 plus years or so, and looked at provider trends,
49:46
Adam Curry: provider trends. It's not a doctor, it's the guy
49:49
you talk to on your on your telemedicine app
49:53
Unknown: of treatment. So after these office visit encounters
49:56
for anxiety in particular, the rates of which were going up
49:59
slowly li over that time period, but focused on treatment. And
50:03
what they found is if you take four options, no treatment at
50:07
all, treatment with just prescription anti anxiety
50:10
medication, treatment with just psychotherapy or counseling,
50:14
talk therapy, or a combination of medication and therapy, that
50:19
kids are more likely to either get no treatment at all, or just
50:23
be given their parents a prescription for anti anxiety
50:27
medication. So I think there's so many things here that we can
50:31
take from this study number one that this population is
50:34
struggling, we've known that we've talked about it before.
50:36
It's great that their parents are bringing them to the
50:39
pediatricians office for an assessment of that. But then
50:43
what to do about it. And to be clear part of it is because
50:47
there's not enough resources out there for them to be referred to
50:50
therapists. But I always say think of this as not one or the
50:54
other medication absolutely can be safe, effective, appropriate
50:58
in some cases. But ideally, it's a holistic view, where you do
51:03
therapy medication if it's needed, and then follow up. And
51:07
right now it looks like in this population, it's either a
51:10
nothing or a prescription. And what about parents who are
51:12
concerned about medication can kids meditate? They can be
51:16
taught to medicate to meditate, which is really important. And I
51:19
think parents need to ask
51:20
Adam Curry: nice, nice little gaff, nice little gaff there.
51:23
And let's do it again.
51:24
Unknown: And right now it looks like in this population, it's
51:26
either a nothing or a prescription. And what about
51:29
parents who are concerned about medication can kids meditate,
51:32
they can be taught to medicate to meditate, which is really
51:35
important. And I think parents need to ask if a medication is
51:38
prescribed risks, benefits and have that conversation.
51:41
Adam Curry: I'm not gonna I'm not gonna call out any of these
51:43
tele medicines by name because I can't prove it. But the way I
51:47
feel that most of them are working, is you know, they have
51:51
nice names like talk, talk with a friend or whatever, you get
51:55
your app and then you talk to a licensed or a provider or
51:59
whatever it is, and they have three consultations with you and
52:03
then they sign off on the drugs and then from the drugs. I think
52:06
you go to the next logical step, which is well maybe you need
52:09
some surgery, or some or some hormones because you're in the
52:13
wrong body. That seems like that's that's the system the
52:16
system is doing this. And because you've got people like
52:19
Dr. Jenn with a lab coat now on Good Morning America, like oh,
52:23
well, well, this is this is righteous. This is the way it
52:25
should go. I mean, I didn't die from my booster shot yet. In the
52:29
in the UK, which I now think is the new the new test ground for
52:34
everything they did going all out in the United Kingdom. The
52:38
NHS is trialing a, an electrics headset for treating depression.
52:44
Oh, it's called electroshock therapy. So well, we'll just try
52:49
that should be fine. No, no problem over there. And the UK
52:54
is in Super crisis. We've got 44% More people dying from heart
53:02
failure since pre pandemic. Okay, I mean, no reason to look
53:08
into that. But the diabetic or the obesity crisis is what's
53:15
really gotten the cottonwood taken the country by storm. Now
53:20
having lived in the UK for five years, I can say, in general,
53:24
they eat crap. They eat you know, fast food from Tescos from
53:30
the gas station, it's it's a lot a lot of processed food, that
53:36
starch love star just and yes, they're obese. But you know,
53:41
there's a couple things you could do. I mean, yes, your diet
53:44
and exercise, but you it's really the intake, it's what
53:46
they're eating. It's not about it's not so much about diet, but
53:50
doesn't matter, because we now have the fix for everything.
53:54
Unknown: obesity related conditions are a significant
53:57
challenge worldwide. It also takes a toll on economies and
54:00
national incomes. UK alone loses about six and a half billion
54:05
pounds per year.
54:06
Adam Curry: Now we're taking to the economics we're using, we're
54:09
losing six and a half billion pounds per year because people
54:12
are fat.
54:12
Unknown: UK alone loses about six and a half billion pounds
54:16
per year and direct costs the National Health Service 28% of
54:20
the country's population is estimated to be living with
54:23
obesity. According to 2019 health survey that is, so the
54:28
country is now ruling out an ambitious plan. It is going to
54:31
provide access to weight loss drug free of cost, which is
54:36
fitting the criteria of being diabetic or obese will be
54:39
prescribed the injection called semaglutide for a period of two
54:43
years, that is the clinical trials of the drug which is
54:46
marketed as we go V so the treatment can help adults lose
54:50
up to 15% of the weight that is when prescribed alongside diet
54:55
and physical activity. semaglutide is a molecule which
54:59
mimics an naturally occurring substance within the body that
55:02
circulates in our blood and signals to our brain that we
55:05
have eaten and we are fooled.
55:07
So what this drug does is it heightens the levels of this
55:10
hormone that are naturally occurring it we get this drill
55:15
we get this hormone in much greater levels than what we
55:18
would normally do. And it gives that brain that that really big
55:21
boost that we are no longer hungry and that we don't need to
55:24
eat so it's suppressing appetite and suppressing appetite in a
55:28
way that we have not seen before in other drugs. Really that's
55:33
the that's the main way in which this drug is working.
55:37
Adam Curry: Okay, so this is a brain drug it tells your brain
55:42
your full you don't need to eat. This is probably why it also
55:45
cures addiction. Ate apparently now according to studies cures
55:49
long COVID I mean, this is a miracle. We should be giving
55:52
this away for free. Yeah, we're talking about ozempic Well,
55:57
which it's it's all the same.
56:00
John C Dvorak: Yeah. ozempic we go V right. bellus Whatever.
56:03
There's a bunch of them. It's all there. ozempic is the one
56:05
that
56:05
Adam Curry: got the well that's that's that's their promotion,
56:10
but the long COVID is a we go V promotion in the UK. It seems to
56:14
be curing long. COVID Actually,
56:17
John C Dvorak: this is all the same. They're all the same. They
56:19
all have the semaglutide stuff.
56:21
Adam Curry: There's actually a new one that is trying to weasel
56:24
in on the O ozempic Magic jingle, though do you know what
56:30
those guys gotta catch the jingle now we've got
56:33
John C Dvorak: a bizarre theory
56:37
Adam Curry: this is the meeting they had dojos MP got look Dave
56:41
we got a pill we're better than them. We got a pill. What can we
56:44
do we need a catchy jingle
56:45
Unknown: I have type two diabetes, but I managed it well.
56:49
It'll kill with a big story to tell me my take one stealing
56:53
Jardiance was easy to see.
57:04
Jordans works 24/7 in your body to flush out some sugar. And for
57:07
adults with type two diabetes and heart disease Jardiance can
57:10
lower the risk of cardiovascular deaths to Jardiance may cause
57:13
serious side effects including ketoacidosis that may be fatal
57:16
dehydration that can lead to sudden worsening of kidney
57:18
function. In general, these are urinary tract infections, a rare
57:22
life threatening bacterial infection and the skin of the
57:24
perineum could occur. That's your taint taking Jardiance and
57:27
call your doctor right away if you have symptoms of this
57:29
infection ketoacidosis or an allergic reaction and don't take
57:32
it across dialysis, taking Jardiance with us upon your REO
57:35
or insulin may low blood sugar.
57:42
Adam Curry: Yeah, it's the little pill with a big story to
57:44
tell. It's really, really quite lame.
57:53
John C Dvorak: Actually, looking at this a different drug. Yes.
57:57
In the
57:58
Adam Curry: same place the same active ingredient?
58:00
John C Dvorak: No, no. Yes. Did you look at Oh, it's this is M M
58:06
PE ligula flows. And this is a totally different animal.
58:09
Adam Curry: I apologize. I thought it was the same. No,
58:13
John C Dvorak: you can't take the other stuff has to be
58:14
injected.
58:16
Adam Curry: Not according to Pfizer. Pfizer says they're
58:18
gonna have one that is not injected. They're gonna Well
58:21
good
58:21
John C Dvorak: for them. They're the best. I want to read about
58:24
the giardia and other side effects.
58:27
Adam Curry: I'd like to perennial
58:30
John C Dvorak: Oh, yeah, that's how does that happen? My other
58:32
thing. The thing I've also been baffled by is how many of these
58:36
disease these diseases Yeah, that's a faux PA. How many of
58:40
these pills these cures are caused TB? Oh, you noticed this
58:46
on these thing all it can cause TB if you ever had TB, oh, you
58:50
can get TB. How do you get tuberculosis more
58:53
Adam Curry: there's, there's the viral tuberculosis and then
58:56
there's just some other tuberculosis. You may go through
58:58
this
58:59
John C Dvorak: sunbae with this. So here's the common side
59:01
effects of this stuff. Hyperventilation anorexia.
59:04
That's a good one. That's there's your weight loss.
59:07
Adam Curry: There's your weight loss right there.
59:09
John C Dvorak: abdominal pain, nausea, vomiting, which is
59:13
anorexia. lethargy, mental status changes. That's a good
59:18
one. Mental
59:19
Adam Curry: status change. Ms. Yeah, I like it. mentally.
59:22
John C Dvorak: I like that mental hypotension, hypotension,
59:25
acute kidney injury. That's great. And vagina. vaginal yeast
59:30
infections. Rare but more serious side effects include a
59:33
skin infection of the groin and a form of diabetes. A
59:42
ketoacidosis which is something you don't want to get no. Yeah,
59:47
no as a different drug
59:48
Adam Curry: we so we have eight Wigo V represent they have the
59:51
jingle. Do they have a good jingle? What Goby needs that but
59:54
we have a go V representative who presented themselves to the
59:58
show, saying asked me anything I said I have nothing to ask.
1:00:02
Smelling a trap. I said I have nothing to ask. So why don't you
1:00:05
if there's something relevant let me know. And our will go V
1:00:08
representative came back and I'd like to read this short email,
1:00:12
quick background or I've 20 plus years in the pharmaceutical
1:00:15
industry three years selling diabetes meds ozempic,
1:00:17
specifically for Novo Nordisk, and for years selling obesity
1:00:21
medications for a govi ozempic And we'll go over are the same
1:00:24
molecule, so magnitude semaglutide. For simplicity
1:00:28
sake, ozempic is dosed at slightly lower doses for glucose
1:00:32
control of type two diabetics. While we go V is dosed slightly
1:00:35
higher to have greater impact in the hypo, in the hypothalamus
1:00:40
for obesity, does that mean anything to you?
1:00:44
John C Dvorak: It hits the brain harder.
1:00:46
Adam Curry: There you go. ozempic is not indicated for
1:00:49
obesity ozempic is only indicated for glucose control
1:00:52
type two diabetes. All anti obesity medications will require
1:00:57
the prescribing provider provider to fill out a prior
1:01:00
authorization with offices being understaffed and in general
1:01:04
people will take the path of least resistance about a third
1:01:06
of all ozempic prescriptions are going to patients who do not
1:01:10
have type two diabetes. Employers have to opt in for
1:01:14
anti obesity medication coverage so significantly more patients
1:01:19
have insurance coverage for ozempic Then we'll go V insurers
1:01:23
have caught on and now cracking down on the use of ozempic
1:01:26
outside of the type two diabetes indication so if you want to if
1:01:30
you want it you better yeah,
1:01:31
John C Dvorak: this is I have to say I like this note me to carry
1:01:37
ciders. The scoop? Is this a scoop this the inside dope?
1:01:41
Adam Curry: We're gonna get shut down so hard. You're the Big
1:01:44
Pharma is a mess around man. It is frustrating on my end to
1:01:48
continually hear the M five M use weight loss drugs and
1:01:52
ozempic synonymously
1:01:54
John C Dvorak: Of course I've brought this up myself when they
1:01:57
when they use it synonymously I have caught this on certain
1:02:00
reports and I've said it's not a weight loss drug.
1:02:05
Adam Curry: I'm in complete agreement, but they're just
1:02:07
they're marketing it as such now they've just gone even though
1:02:10
it's
1:02:10
John C Dvorak: because the ozempic people are good not
1:02:13
to.to put down our sales guy here or girl I don't know
1:02:17
salesperson not to put down to do a better job.
1:02:20
Adam Curry: They do Yeah, they got to they got to snap we could
1:02:22
probably come up with we'll have to think about what can we do
1:02:25
for a way cov jingle what what
1:02:27
John C Dvorak: we already have we can we can just say hey,
1:02:30
Blanchett go talk to Jeff. Hire him.
1:02:35
Adam Curry: The Jeff smith.com Hire Jeff he'll come up with a
1:02:39
really snappy song for you. To make everyone wants to use with
1:02:43
COVID would go v would go v would go V
1:02:45
John C Dvorak: COVID or whatever it's called. I can't even
1:02:47
pronounce it.
1:02:48
Adam Curry: It is yeah, your name is a problem. It is
1:02:51
frustrating on my end to continually hear the M five M
1:02:54
use weight loss drugs as and ozempic synonymously. This has
1:02:58
been an issue for almost two years. I believe cart corporate
1:03:01
should do a far better job and clarification. However, with
1:03:05
more patients having insurance access to ozempic than would go
1:03:08
V is their financial incentive not to clarify, good point. In
1:03:13
my career, I've never represented a product that has
1:03:15
positively impacted people as much as we're govi I routinely
1:03:19
hear stories of dramatic weight loss hips and knees feeling
1:03:22
better and the ability to be more active. I have never had a
1:03:26
physician bring up ozempic face but discuss the potential side
1:03:30
effects during every interaction. It is also
1:03:32
important to note that Novo Nordisk does not sell some
1:03:36
maculata semaglutide wholesale and still actively holds the
1:03:39
patent there's your investment opportunity. So I do not know
1:03:43
what the compound semaglutide that some compounding pharmacies
1:03:48
are offering is the only fact is it is not originating from Novo
1:03:52
Nordisk, or there's another good piece of information.
1:03:56
John C Dvorak: Oh, that's interesting.
1:03:57
Adam Curry: So they may be using something different since they
1:04:00
did they don't have the patent? They can't use the patented
1:04:05
powder, whatever it is. Thank you so much for sharing this
1:04:10
with us. And if there's anything more we go astray, and we'll
1:04:13
certainly work on Oh, we look forward to it. Yeah. And we'll
1:04:17
work on on it. There's got to be Wigo this kind of govia will go
1:04:22
is it will go via will go via
1:04:24
John C Dvorak: Yeah, he can't even you'll never get it.
1:04:27
Adam Curry: Now we'll come up with something we'll come up
1:04:29
with something. And then a quick rectification regarding the RSV
1:04:36
vaccine numbers placebo versus efficacy rates. It's even worse
1:04:41
than we thought in the morning if you've received emails like
1:04:44
this already, but I noticed something in the show and
1:04:46
discussing the RSV vaccines that I felt was important to bring to
1:04:49
your attention. The rates and percentages that were close but
1:04:52
slightly higher in the vaccines were rates of preterm births,
1:04:56
not efficacy rates. So even though they're close to number
1:05:00
The RSV vaccines are causing premature births and Dez. Thanks
1:05:04
for the show. We look forward to each next episode. This is I
1:05:10
mean wow, we even got to buy that. We even got screwed.
1:05:16
John C Dvorak: Well, I don't think we got screwed and we
1:05:18
noticed that he would those numbers were still so close. It
1:05:21
wasn't worth even playing with. Yeah. Wow.
1:05:28
Adam Curry: Anyway, that's your big farm update. Carry on. Keep
1:05:32
taking the pills every night. Good luck. Yeah. Everything's
1:05:35
gonna be just fine. Just fine. I have a super clip of the Trump
1:05:43
indictment. It's a little long, but it kind of covers everything
1:05:46
if you want to do that now.
1:05:48
John C Dvorak: I'm looking to see if there's anything I got on
1:05:50
drugs.
1:05:53
Adam Curry: It's probably a good good moment to look at it now.
1:05:56
Yeah.
1:05:58
John C Dvorak: I'm good.
1:06:00
Adam Curry: Okay. This is from the clip collector. Steve Jones,
1:06:04
brother of of Neal Jones. We got the whole Jones family working
1:06:07
for us now tonight
1:06:08
Unknown: with breaking news that appears for the first time in
1:06:11
American history and American president has been indicted on
1:06:14
federal charges.
1:06:15
We begin tonight with a historic moment in our nation's 247 years
1:06:21
of federal indictment revealing extraordinary and grave criminal
1:06:25
counts facing Donald Trump and the charges that his actions
1:06:28
have endangered US national security. It is at historic
1:06:32
development. The first time a former president has been
1:06:34
indicted on federal criminal charges
1:06:36
tonight new details on the stunning move by the Special
1:06:39
Counsel. The first federal indictment of a former president
1:06:43
who's also the leading Republican challenger to
1:06:45
President Biden tonight
1:06:46
is a blistering 49 Page federal indictment unsealed by the
1:06:50
Special Counsel blessed the first ever Federalist criminal
1:06:53
charges against a former president of the United States
1:06:57
after a parade of witnesses and to grand juries. The government
1:07:00
tonight is showing its hand in its classified document case.
1:07:04
37 counts against Donald Trump including the voluminous
1:07:08
evidence prosecutors notice in an investigation that lasted
1:07:12
more than a year
1:07:13
we are told the range of those charges includes obstruction,
1:07:17
willful retention of documents related to our national
1:07:19
security, false statements conspiracy unsealing a
1:07:23
37 count indictment alleging that after leaving the White
1:07:26
House, Mr. Trump illegally possessed classified government
1:07:30
materials at his Mar a
1:07:32
Lago home and sources telling NBC News Trump is facing
1:07:35
multiple counts ranging from illegal retention of government
1:07:38
documents to conspiracy to obstruction of the government's
1:07:42
efforts to retrieve those documents. The indictment marks
1:07:45
the first time an American president has faced federal
1:07:48
charges. Prosecutors
1:07:49
alleged the former president took dozens of boxes to mar a
1:07:52
Lago and the indictment included images of those boxes allegedly
1:07:55
stored in a ballroom, a bathroom a shower, a storage room. The
1:07:59
boxes
1:07:59
were stored in various places around Mr. Trump's Mar a Lago
1:08:03
home and office space, his bedroom and a storage room.
1:08:06
We are also seeing for the first time photos of boxes containing
1:08:09
America's most sensitive secrets scattered across Mar a Lago. One
1:08:14
picture shows documents spilled onto the floor
1:08:16
another showing several documents spilling out of a box
1:08:19
piled carelessly in a bathroom, tucked under a water pipe and on
1:08:24
a storage room floor.
1:08:25
The indictment describes the documents spread out in boxes
1:08:28
across Mar a Lago and a bathroom, a ballroom, a shower,
1:08:33
documenting everything from US nuclear weapons to what would
1:08:37
happen if the US was attacked, including
1:08:39
photos of boxes stored in the open, some allegedly holding
1:08:43
descriptions of for nuclear capabilities and US defenses
1:08:47
on the indictment today also accuses Trump of illegally
1:08:50
holding documents concerning the US nuclear program. And more top
1:08:54
secret Pentagon plans. Some of the
1:08:56
documents prosecutors say were marked top secret off limits to
1:09:00
foreign nationals, some relating to nuclear weapons capabilities
1:09:04
of the US and its adversaries as well as sensitive US military
1:09:08
planning. Special Counsel Jack Smith made his first public
1:09:11
statement about the investigation but took no
1:09:14
questions.
1:09:15
We have one set of laws in this country, and they apply to
1:09:18
everyone in my administration.
1:09:20
I'm going to enforce the laws concerning the protection of
1:09:25
classified information.
1:09:27
Our laws that protect National Defense Information are critical
1:09:32
to the safety and security of the United States. And they must
1:09:36
be enforced. Violations of those laws put our country at risk,
1:09:42
we would expect that he would show up on Tuesday for an
1:09:45
arraignment. At that point he would enter a formal plea of not
1:09:49
guilty as we would expect he has maintained his innocence all
1:09:53
along. He could have the charges read to him although in most
1:09:56
cases he would agree to waive that so you wouldn't actually he
1:10:00
your recitation of them Donald
1:10:02
Trump has been told to be in Florida on Tuesday to appear in
1:10:05
federal court at 3pm.
1:10:07
As Sources tell NBC News Mr. Trump has a court summons for
1:10:11
June 13.
1:10:12
He's been summoned to appear before a judge next Tuesday.
1:10:16
Prosecutors telling the former president he will be arraigned
1:10:19
in Miami on Tuesday.
1:10:21
Adam Curry: Now, there's your M five M all perfectly on script
1:10:24
with some nice, nice blistering like that voluminous. There's
1:10:27
John C Dvorak: some good stuff in there. Now there's a couple
1:10:30
of I have a lot of clips about this.
1:10:32
Adam Curry: Okay, good. But this is important because this is
1:10:35
this is the deconstruction of what you get is going to be
1:10:37
thrown in everyone's face for the next six months.
1:10:41
John C Dvorak: Headley. I think I think the cute little gotcha
1:10:44
is the fact that it's gonna go before of in a Florida court
1:10:48
with a judge that was appointed by Trump.
1:10:51
Adam Curry: It's well, don't you think before you get to your
1:10:54
clips, the process here is really the punishment. It's not
1:10:58
theirs. And we can get into the legality of it and what there's
1:11:01
really, you
1:11:02
John C Dvorak: know, there, there's plenty of punishment to
1:11:04
go around. Yeah. And this has to be just the beginning. Can't let
1:11:08
they just cannot let Trump win again,
1:11:10
Adam Curry: that well, they know they can't let him be the
1:11:11
nominee.
1:11:13
John C Dvorak: Yeah. So but the god the little cute little
1:11:18
gotcha is this judge, because if the whole case is a crap case,
1:11:24
and the judge throws it out, everyone said just a Trump
1:11:27
judge, of course. It goes against Trump, and she finds she
1:11:34
even Trump's own judge found him guilty. It's
1:11:38
Adam Curry: a win win.
1:11:39
John C Dvorak: It's unbelievably sly. I agree. It's very cute.
1:11:45
And and it's, that's we have to note it early on as the scam
1:11:49
that it is.
1:11:50
Adam Curry: Yes. And I will also note and we'll get to that in a
1:11:54
moment, CNN, it seems like the firing of Chris Licht is only to
1:12:00
make sure that CNN is now just hitting as hard on Trump as
1:12:04
possible and promoting DeSantis seems to seems like the big
1:12:09
money guys on the libertarian conservative side. I know. I'm
1:12:14
just just assuming that the day like we just gotta get Rhonda
1:12:18
in.
1:12:21
John C Dvorak: I think so. I mean, I don't know that but as
1:12:25
this just sounds right. Yeah. Well, who looked at who bought
1:12:27
it? So let's start with a couple of Yeah, discovery. Yeah. And
1:12:32
Malone. Well, it's been background and Ben Miller was
1:12:35
never a Trump guy. He was a Koch brothers guy,
1:12:38
Adam Curry: but he's exactly he's a big money. Republican.
1:12:42
Yeah. are different.
1:12:43
John C Dvorak: Yes.
1:12:44
Adam Curry: They're not Magga man.
1:12:48
John C Dvorak: Which makes me want to play my trump in Georgia
1:12:51
gag.
1:12:52
Adam Curry: Okay, the gaff?
1:12:55
John C Dvorak: Actually, the gaff is good. Okay, I got three
1:12:58
Trump clips. Okay, but play the Trump and Georgia gaff and you
1:13:02
tell me the gaff,
1:13:03
Unknown: this vicious persecution is a travesty of
1:13:07
justice. You're watching Joe bridon job I think of it. Biden
1:13:11
is trying to jail. His leading political opponent and opponent
1:13:17
that's beating him by a lot.
1:13:18
Adam Curry: Bryden Joe Bryden
1:13:20
John C Dvorak: Yeah, yeah, Joe Bryden. Just glosses it over. He
1:13:23
doesn't even pull back from
1:13:24
Adam Curry: it. Because he's a trans Jester. He has no problem
1:13:27
doing that.
1:13:28
John C Dvorak: Okay, now here's the I thought this was kind of
1:13:30
cute. This is Trump and George talking about the Magga hat.
1:13:33
Unknown: Remember, I used to campaign and I'd say that we're
1:13:38
going to end up being Venezuela on steroids. That's exactly
1:13:42
what's happening to our country. Our country's going to hell. I
1:13:46
was going to change the name of our campaign to keep America
1:13:50
great. Now this is not as good as Maga. Magazine. Magga right
1:13:55
Magga. And keep America greatest CAG I don't think CAG CAG is
1:14:04
ever gonna compete with Maga. But we couldn't say Keep America
1:14:08
Great because our country is not great. Well left out all over
1:14:11
the world. We're no longer respected. Three years ago, we
1:14:14
were respected like our country has never been respected before.
1:14:21
John C Dvorak: Okay, so there's that now. So I wanted to see
1:14:25
what the opinion makers are the punditry, yeah, super pundits.
1:14:29
So I'm gonna go to PBS and they had this
1:14:33
Adam Curry: PBS they're like an official outfit, man. You gotta
1:14:36
get the cable news companies they're the ones that are not
1:14:39
John C Dvorak: talking about unbalanced opinions. This is
1:14:41
what bothers me he ever says when died yeah, the balance that
1:14:45
PBS is deal it's just hate the Republicans. Yeah, we have so
1:14:50
now we have Ruth McManus with with Brooks, who's Ruthie manis,
1:14:54
who is who she is a one of the editors that the WaPo so we have
1:14:59
the you know, same old Will shame will Washington Post Trump
1:15:02
haters and their social sphere about this stuff? So this is the
1:15:05
unbalanced opinion. This is Ruth on the indictment
1:15:09
Unknown: is really the right word to use. It's a somber
1:15:13
sobering moment for the country. We have never been to this place
1:15:18
before. We've been on the brink. We all know Nixon was almost
1:15:21
indicted, people forget Bill Clinton faced the prospect of
1:15:25
indictment and reached a plea deal. But we have never crossed
1:15:29
this Rubicon. I think it's important that we did it. On
1:15:33
this set of facts. I thought that was true. Before I saw the
1:15:36
indictment, having seen the indictment, I think it's even
1:15:39
more true. As Jack Smith said, there can't be one set of the
1:15:43
one set of laws has to cover everybody that said, My so so
1:15:48
I'm, I'm relieved that the rule of law looks like it's
1:15:52
prevailing here. But that relief is really tempered by sadness,
1:15:55
sadness, that upset we had a president of the United States
1:15:58
and a potential future President of the United States that has
1:16:01
brought us to this terrible state, and also real
1:16:04
apprehension, sadness about the volcanic response, just inherent
1:16:12
instinctive, supportiveness political polarization from his
1:16:16
party, and what that's going to mean for an already divided
1:16:20
country that's going to be further polarized here.
1:16:22
Adam Curry: Okay, so that is She's clearly a leftist, so that
1:16:25
we would expect Brooks to give us a more rightist opinion, I
1:16:30
John C Dvorak: would like to hear from someone who finds the
1:16:33
whole thing to be completely the opposite. It's a bad idea and
1:16:37
all the rest of it, but no, no, no, it's going to be just pretty
1:16:39
much the same thing. Brooks just has a slightly different take on
1:16:43
it. But here's Brooks unbalanced opinion,
1:16:46
Unknown: a somber day, a sad day, how do you view it?
1:16:49
This morning, I was blase. I was okay. He had, he had these
1:16:53
documents, we knew it. We saw the pictures from our logo. And
1:16:56
then when the indictment came out, I was like, oh, there's
1:16:59
always another layer down with the sky. Then when I What
1:17:03
shocked me in particular was the the nuclear programs, our own
1:17:06
vulnerabilities. He's sharing our Iran plans with buddies at a
1:17:10
golf course. And I don't see those as documents. Those are
1:17:16
human beings, those are American lives. Those are people who are
1:17:18
helping United States around the world that were put at risk.
1:17:21
Those are American soldiers, and Marines and airmen. And seamen
1:17:25
who were put at risk See, man, so the lack of reverence, lack
1:17:28
of sense of responsibility for the people who were serving
1:17:32
under his command is just so offensive. And then just the, he
1:17:38
had this thought I, he's just a mean, boy. He's like an eight
1:17:42
year old boy who wanted these documents for some willful
1:17:45
reason who could not admit error. And my friend Andrew
1:17:48
Sullivan made the point today that whenever there's a
1:17:50
situation where Donald Trump has to be d equals everybody, the
1:17:54
rules have to apply equally, he will ride roughshod over that
1:17:57
system, and behave in a way so I'm not equal to everybody else.
1:18:00
It's just me. The rules don't apply to me. And it's it's
1:18:05
Greek, and it's the exposure of his character flaw.
1:18:08
Adam Curry: Oh, yeah. This is the no one is above that. In the
1:18:13
previous, the previous clip from Ruth, she talked about
1:18:17
presidents copping a plea deal. This is interesting, because
1:18:22
this is exactly what Rachel Maddow on her. She now on one
1:18:26
one day a week on MSNBC. Monday, she and Lawrence discussed this,
1:18:32
Unknown: you have to wonder if the Justice Department is
1:18:34
considering whether there is some political solution to this
1:18:39
criminal problem whether part of the issue here is not just that
1:18:43
Trump has committed crimes, but that Trump has committed crimes
1:18:46
and plans on being back in the White House. Do they consider as
1:18:50
part of a potential plea offer something that would prescribe
1:18:53
him prescribe him from from from running for office? Again,
1:18:57
I don't know. I would imagine if anything like that happened,
1:19:00
that it would have to come from the defense side of the
1:19:04
negotiation, that the that the Trump team would would say, Oh,
1:19:08
by the way, and with this, we will also, you know, drop out of
1:19:12
the race for president otherwise would put the Justice Department
1:19:17
in this position that Donald Trump claims they're in. He
1:19:20
claims they're trying to stop him simply tried to stop him
1:19:24
from becoming president again. And that's the only reason
1:19:27
they're doing this. So my guess given those dynamics and the
1:19:32
change, I think in the way, the Justice Department sees this in
1:19:37
those 50 years since before I do, it's just seems unlikely
1:19:43
that they would reach into the political zone of the solution.
1:19:48
Our politics does have to find a solution to this, but it might
1:19:51
have to find that solution, separate and apart from the
1:19:54
criminal process.
1:19:56
Adam Curry: Now there would pro scribe him which means command
1:19:59
proscribed him a plea deal. So well, we'll let you off the hook
1:20:03
as long as you promise not to run. So we know what this is
1:20:06
about. That's nice to let us know, Rachel and Larry
1:20:11
John C Dvorak: Bell. We knew that that was the case. What's
1:20:15
interesting
1:20:15
Adam Curry: is that nowhere and that's not true. In most, most
1:20:20
of these opinion programs, does anyone really discuss the actual
1:20:26
indictments because it's inherently weak and it's dumb,
1:20:30
and the timing of it is, is obvious. This is Kudlow Kudlow.
1:20:39
I think interviews on Fox, digital or Fox Business or noise
1:20:43
on Fox Business Fox Business
1:20:44
Unknown: coincidence, in my view, that Donald Trump
1:20:47
indictment was announced on the same day, the FBI 1023 forum was
1:20:52
finally opened up to the House members of the Oversight
1:20:56
Committee no coincidence, while President Joe Biden smugly
1:21:01
answered a reporter's question about bribery charges by saying
1:21:05
show me the money. Well, that clock is ticking for Mr. Biden
1:21:09
sources briefing Fox News digital says we're very clear
1:21:12
about the allegation. Biden was paid $5 million by a top dog at
1:21:17
Burisma holdings, and another 5 million bucks went to Hunter
1:21:21
Biden. The FBI interview came from a highly credible source
1:21:25
who detailed multiple meetings and conversations with the
1:21:29
Burisma people that pay to play bribe was to force Ukrainian
1:21:33
prosecutor Viktor Shokin. Out of Office, which is exactly what
1:21:37
Joe Biden did. This is potentially the biggest
1:21:41
political scandal in American history. And the evidence
1:21:45
against the Biden crime family is mounting up across the board.
1:21:49
So Biden's Attorney General Merrick Garland rushed out his
1:21:53
special counsel's indictment of former President Trump on this
1:21:57
same day. It's a transparent attempt to distract attention
1:22:01
from Biden corruption.
1:22:03
John C Dvorak: So this transparent to who nobody played
1:22:06
this up except Kudlow.
1:22:08
Adam Curry: Well, this is the problem is now you have everyone
1:22:12
instead of again, instead of going after these, these these
1:22:16
pardons upon trumped up indictments and charges, which
1:22:20
are easily refuted, I think. And thank you for picking up on
1:22:26
that. That lawyer, the judge? I mean, what a great what a great
1:22:30
Gambit is, of course, Trump judge. Everyone is trying
1:22:35
everyone is defending Trump is gonna try and go but my Biden
1:22:38
Biden, my Biden, my Biden, which no one on the left and the M
1:22:42
five M cares about, and no one no one knows it. And this is
1:22:47
you're going to hear this Stephanopoulos, ABC, and I
1:22:50
believe he really is being truthful here. As we discussed
1:22:53
earlier. This is his belief. This is a Trump attorney who has
1:22:59
a great name for an attorney, Jim trustee. I mean, come on.
1:23:03
Does it get any better than that? Hi, everybody. I'm Jim,
1:23:05
trustee, Attorney at Law. We're joined
1:23:07
Unknown: now by one of Donald Trump's attorneys. Jim, Trustee
1:23:09
Jim, thank you for joining us this morning. What exactly did
1:23:13
you learn from the Special Counsel?
1:23:15
Well, we learned that this special counsel was hell bent on
1:23:18
criminalizing something that I really don't think has a
1:23:21
criminal basis under the Presidential Records Act. So we
1:23:25
now have a summons to appear. Tuesday afternoon at three
1:23:28
o'clock it has at least a summary of the types of charges
1:23:31
we expect to see in the indictment. And it puts a stamp
1:23:36
of reality on something that really is unreal in terms of the
1:23:40
weaponization of the Department of Justice,
1:23:42
I know you're gonna use that phrase weaponization Department
1:23:45
of Justice, but it's not just the Presidential Records Act.
1:23:47
It's reportedly the Espionage Act much more seriously,
1:23:51
perhaps, obstruction of justice, false statements, those are
1:23:54
common crimes,
1:23:55
all of which is predicated on the idea that you can send a
1:23:59
message from the White House to the archivist to DOJ to use a
1:24:04
dispute a regular dispute about documents in a former
1:24:08
president's home and turn that into a criminal investigation
1:24:12
and a criminal raid. So it all stems from the same initial
1:24:15
corrupt and politicized source of weaponizing. Something that
1:24:19
by statute is not a criminal offense.
1:24:22
I think there there are countless examples of people who
1:24:24
have been charged for similar crimes, but we're going to both
1:24:27
sides should wait and see what is actually in the indictment.
1:24:30
Adam Curry: So actually should have said the two things are
1:24:32
weaponizing, the DOJ and now we get into the Biden crime family.
1:24:36
Unknown: But doesn't the President Don't you believe in
1:24:38
the principle that no person is above the law above the law and
1:24:41
committed the same crime that someone else did? Shouldn't he
1:24:43
be charged?
1:24:45
No person is below the law. That's really the issue here. I
1:24:48
mean, you've got these investigations in Delaware over
1:24:51
1000 times more serious by a sitting president who is
1:24:55
authorized his DOJ to try to sink the candidacy. of his prime
1:25:00
opposition, while that guy has unsecured documents that he
1:25:04
stole out of a skiff dozens of years ago. So, look, you know,
1:25:08
we're not talking about favorites are
1:25:11
you talking about? That is a ridiculous statement.
1:25:14
There's this issue. Nice try. There's an issue that anyone
1:25:19
that reads any newspapers would agree is a parallel track, which
1:25:23
is the Delaware documents scandal of Joe Biden, where
1:25:26
there's a special counsel rob her that's investigating it, you
1:25:30
know, that there were documents that were sensitive that were
1:25:33
marked classified, found in a garage near a Corvette that made
1:25:37
their way through Chinatown through the Penn Biden center,
1:25:40
there's 18 150 boxes that have never been fully looked at. At
1:25:43
the University of Delaware, you have the ultimate unclean hands
1:25:47
of a current sitting president, who had no declassification had
1:25:51
none of the protections of President Trump, and who
1:25:54
literally had to have stolen stuff from a skiff. Even Dick
1:25:57
Durbin has commented about how this was an outrageous
1:26:00
possession of classified material by Vice President at
1:26:04
that point, Joe Biden. So that's what we're talking about. You
1:26:07
can scoff and act like there's nothing to it. But the whole
1:26:09
country knows the basic notion of unequal treatment and
1:26:13
fairness. And that's what's at issue with this prosecution.
1:26:16
I think that is certainly what is at issue, we will see how it
1:26:19
plays out, because I don't think you have the evidence to back up
1:26:21
any of the charges you just made. Mr. Trustee. Thank you
1:26:23
very much.
1:26:25
Adam Curry: Got all chili there, George. Yeah,
1:26:27
John C Dvorak: the the left narrative includes the following
1:26:34
all of Biden stock Biden isn't bound by the presidential
1:26:39
records, act laws, a act is not bound by any of that A and B.
1:26:48
There is actually a section of the law that says that if you're
1:26:53
a senator, you can take home whatever you want, doesn't make
1:26:55
any difference if you have access to it, and and to make
1:27:00
sure it's not classified. The third part of the of this
1:27:05
narrative is that and I've heard one guy go over very thoroughly.
1:27:09
The FBI went over all of Joe Biden's stuff and the FBI found
1:27:13
nothing that was classified. And so so the whole, so the side
1:27:19
that Stephanopoulos is taking is based on the entire narrative
1:27:25
that they have out there. Now the thing that's still kind of
1:27:28
interesting, and you kind of had some bewilderment by a comment
1:27:32
that Brooks made about the about the Iranian war plans is covered
1:27:38
by I found this podcast that had Yeah, there we go. That's where
1:27:43
the good stuff. Yeah. The the would you call him the guy is
1:27:50
Scott Ritter, who was the arms inspector
1:27:54
Adam Curry: who didn't find any any weapons in Iraq, that one?
1:27:58
John C Dvorak: And he said it and he said so. And he's also
1:28:01
buddy, I've always found him to be an excellent analyst. And
1:28:06
that's why he's on podcasts. That's why he was because he was
1:28:10
they I don't know that what the circumstances were. But after he
1:28:14
came on, during a number of episodes where he'd come on, and
1:28:17
he say negative things. He's also turns out if you really do
1:28:20
enough, look good. Look at him. He's a huge Putin fan. Huge.
1:28:25
He's a massive Putin actual, like, samples, sliced bread
1:28:32
leaders. Oh, and he got, they found porn at child porn on his
1:28:37
thing. He did a year and a half in jail. And now he can't get a
1:28:41
gig anywhere. So if you want to hear his analysis, and I still
1:28:45
think he's one of the best analysts I've ever heard, he is
1:28:50
a former Marine intelligence, Defense Department intelligence.
1:28:54
He's an intelligence guy, and he does a hell of a job. And of
1:28:57
course, he's been be smart. So he's got it you're never going
1:29:00
to hear from but let's listen to these clips. And there's one in
1:29:03
here that'll get you. This is Scott Ritter on Iran, one on
1:29:08
with
1:29:08
Unknown: Saudi Arabia pulling back from the United States,
1:29:11
Iran, deepening its ties with with Putin and Russia, with bad
1:29:17
blood towards the United States does this capability of
1:29:22
domestically producing a hypersonic ballistic missile?
1:29:25
Does this pose a problem for the United States or
1:29:29
for the world,
1:29:30
but it poses a problem for the United States in Israel. Iran is
1:29:34
in the business of bettering relations with Saudi Arabia.
1:29:38
They're not building this missile, the threatened Saudi
1:29:40
Arabia, they're not building this missile to threaten any of
1:29:42
their Arab neighbors. But we have to be real here. Israel has
1:29:48
been carrying out attacks against Iran for decades now.
1:29:50
They've been assassinating Iranian scientists they've been
1:29:54
using covert means to blow up Iranian facilities, both those
1:29:58
related to nuclear and ballistic missile development. Now if we
1:30:01
were in the United States and a nation was assassinated, our
1:30:03
scientists blowing up our facilities, we bombed the heck
1:30:06
out. But the problem is with Iran bombing Israel, many of
1:30:12
their missiles might have been shut down by the Israeli Iron
1:30:15
Dome system. And then you open yourself up for retaliation from
1:30:19
Israel. With this hypersonic missile rush, Iran has built a
1:30:24
system that can't be shut down by the Israelis, which means
1:30:26
that if Israel continues to push red lines, Iran will be able to
1:30:30
decisively strike Israel in a non nuclear fashion. So in many
1:30:34
ways, this makes the region even safer because it creates real
1:30:38
deterrence on the part of Iran. Iran can tell Israel that if you
1:30:42
attack us, we will destroy significant parts of your
1:30:46
society, your military, your government, in ways that you
1:30:49
can't respond to you can't prevent this from happening. And
1:30:53
with the United States, it's the same thing.
1:30:56
Adam Curry: Okay, balance, actually not even a bad thing,
1:30:59
John C Dvorak: I guess. No, it's not who he thinks is a good
1:31:01
thing. But here's the kicker, and it answers one of your
1:31:03
questions, or your bewilderment. It was mine, too. And this, this
1:31:08
will clear it up this part to
1:31:10
Unknown: Iran is saying that if you attack us and remember, one
1:31:14
of the things that Donald Trump is being accused of right now is
1:31:17
retaining a secret war plan driven a drawn up by General
1:31:21
Miley to attack Iran. So it's not that he runs making stuff
1:31:25
up, Iran sitting there going, you have a war plan to attack
1:31:29
us, you actually had, we're planning on doing this. And if
1:31:33
you know anything about the military, once that war plan
1:31:36
exists, then it exists today, which means the Biden
1:31:39
administration has a war plan to attack Iran, which means Iran
1:31:43
must develop the means necessary to deter that. And they do that
1:31:48
by developing this weapon system that the United States cannot
1:31:50
defend against. So that if we attack Iran, every American
1:31:54
installation within 1400 kilometers of Iran is
1:31:58
susceptible to being destroyed by this missile that we can't
1:32:01
defend against. So in many ways, the system actually makes the
1:32:04
region safer. But it'll be very frustrating for the United
1:32:08
States and Israel, because we are not used to conceding
1:32:13
anything to anybody. We like situations to be resolved on our
1:32:17
terms, dictated from the standpoint of what improves
1:32:21
American security posture, and allowing Iran to not take
1:32:26
control but to dominate the region is not in our in the
1:32:31
current best interests of American security posture, we
1:32:35
need to be in control of that region. I would say in the long
1:32:38
term, though, this is a good thing, because the United States
1:32:41
really doesn't need to have the Fifth Fleet operating out of
1:32:43
Bahrain. We don't need to have tactical combat aircraft
1:32:47
operating out of guitar and Oman, that it would be better
1:32:52
for the world for us to withdraw our military from that area and
1:32:56
start working with Saudi Arabia and Iran and other nations
1:32:59
constructively with joint economic interests in mind.
1:33:03
Adam Curry: Oh, okay. This is that's very good clip. If true.
1:33:07
And this is what Trump has. Well, that's a huge problem for
1:33:10
the military industrial complex. A de escalation. Oh, we can't
1:33:14
have that. Wow, good one.
1:33:18
John C Dvorak: Yeah, that's what I when I heard that I said, I
1:33:20
didn't know it. I mean, there's hints at it. Even Brooks had a
1:33:24
hint at it. But there's no we don't have the details. We
1:33:27
didn't know that Trump had plans for the war against Iran. But we
1:33:32
moved if you recall, just a few years ago, it Wait
1:33:36
Adam Curry: a minute. It's in the West Clarke seven.
1:33:39
John C Dvorak: Yes, it is in the West Clarke seven. And we have
1:33:42
do and we discussed that. The there was a discussion and we
1:33:46
talked about on the show about attacking Iran. And Trump didn't
1:33:50
want to do it. And they were talking about it. Do you
1:33:53
Adam Curry: mind if I just play this 31 second to the west
1:33:55
Clarke seven to remind anybody? Well, yeah, this is a couple of
1:33:58
weeks after 911. And this is a general general right, General
1:34:05
Wesley Clark, and this is what he was told.
1:34:08
Unknown: So I came back to see him a few weeks later. And by
1:34:12
that time, we were bombing in Afghanistan. I said, Are we
1:34:14
still going to war with Iraq? And he said, Oh, it's worse than
1:34:17
that. He said, He reached over on his desk. He picked up a
1:34:20
piece of paper. He said, I just he said, I just got this down
1:34:23
from upstairs meeting the secretary Defense Office today.
1:34:25
And he said this a memo that describes how we're going to
1:34:28
take out seven countries in five years, starting with Iraq and
1:34:33
then Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Somalia, Sudan and finishing off
1:34:37
Iran.
1:34:38
Adam Curry: I think we only have one left. I think we're I think
1:34:42
we're six or seven
1:34:44
John C Dvorak: Kinsta hypersonic missiles.
1:34:47
Adam Curry: This is good stuff. Now this should calm everybody.
1:34:51
Now you know what it's about, and it could actually be a good
1:34:55
thing. Because they're talking and your boys there Brooks,
1:35:00
they'll know about it. So they know, they know they're all in
1:35:05
to all part of the military industrial complex and whatever
1:35:08
other crazies we have running around, want to be to run the
1:35:12
world?
1:35:13
John C Dvorak: Yeah, did he does a little wrap up here that's
1:35:17
worth finishing with.
1:35:19
Unknown: There's no longer a schism between Saudi Arabia and
1:35:22
Iran, for the US to exploit from a military standpoint, they're
1:35:25
making peace. So it's, maybe it's time for the United States
1:35:29
to talk about making peace as well. And it would be in our
1:35:31
best interest because we have alienated Saudi Arabia, to the
1:35:35
extent that they are cutting oil production right now, in a way
1:35:39
that's going to have a detrimental impact on the
1:35:41
economy of the United States. It used to be, we could pick up the
1:35:44
phone, and the Saudis would adjust oil production to meet
1:35:47
the economic best interests of the United States. It's now at
1:35:50
the point where Saudi Arabia doesn't care what the United
1:35:53
States thinks that the more they're going to cut production
1:35:56
to raise prices, which not only benefits them, but it benefits
1:35:59
Russia. River, our goal with economic sanctions is to
1:36:02
strangle Russia, to try and cut off access to Russian energy.
1:36:06
And we've been successful in closing down some markets. But
1:36:10
that success is reversed the moment prices go up because now
1:36:13
Russia can sell less gas at a higher price. They make the same
1:36:17
amount of money they made before.
1:36:19
Adam Curry: Thank you for these clips. You know what this, this
1:36:22
actually makes me feel very empowered. Now, instead of all
1:36:26
the political nonsense and all the M five M jackin. Back and
1:36:31
forth. Now, I know it's very simple. Trump doesn't want war.
1:36:37
He's got he has the plans that they had to attack Iran to
1:36:41
complete the West Clarke seven Okay, five years a little bit
1:36:44
longer, but you know, this stuff happens. And and we're actually
1:36:48
going to have balance in the world. And Trump probably can go
1:36:52
back and pick up the phone with the Saudis. In return, return
1:36:57
prices to normal return things to normal. It's just It's
1:37:00
empowering to note to have that knowledge as much. Because this
1:37:06
is the stuff that CNN is doing. CNN is
1:37:09
Unknown: now learning FBI special agents across the
1:37:12
country are actively looking for possible domestic terror threats
1:37:16
related to Trump's upcoming court appearance in Florida.
1:37:20
Sources say some pro Trump groups are already making plans
1:37:23
to travel to Miami and support the former President as he faces
1:37:27
these federal charges in the classified documents case, suit
1:37:31
as Josh Campbell is joining us right now, Josh, I know you've
1:37:34
been talking to your sources in the FBI and elsewhere. What more
1:37:38
are you hearing?
1:37:39
Well, this is so important because we know that Donald
1:37:42
Trump's election lies inspired that deadly January 6
1:37:45
insurrection at the Capitol and US federal law enforcement is
1:37:48
election
1:37:48
John C Dvorak: Wait, wait. His election lies in every report is
1:37:53
this it's not a report journalism is this
1:37:56
Adam Curry: report is propaganda. We all know this
1:38:00
Unknown: because we know that Donald Trump's election lies and
1:38:02
spider that deadly January 6 insurrection at the Capitol and
1:38:05
US federal law enforcement is working to make sure that that
1:38:09
doesn't happen again. I spoke to five law enforcement sources
1:38:11
across the country today that FBI domestic terrorism agents
1:38:15
and analysts are actively working to identify any
1:38:18
potential threat surrounding that cup coming court
1:38:21
appearance. They are looking at online platforms that are
1:38:24
popular with extremist groups like podcasts. This is important
1:38:27
they are also queering and tasking confidential human
1:38:30
informants who report on these domestic terrorism. People in
1:38:33
the troll room groups now as secretive and closed off as
1:38:37
these groups think they are. They are infiltrated by
1:38:40
informants of the FBI that has often led to consternation among
1:38:43
these extremist groups as well as infighting and paranoia. By
1:38:47
the way, I'm told the FBI doesn't mind that one bit. At
1:38:49
this point. There's no indication of any credible and
1:38:52
specific threat, but FBI agents and intelligence analysts are
1:38:55
certainly looking for this potential threats. What
1:38:59
John C Dvorak: what what he says there's no evidence, any
1:39:03
credible anything, there's nothing going on. I'm gonna give
1:39:06
this report anyway.
1:39:08
Unknown: To consternation among these extremist groups as well
1:39:11
as infighting and paranoia. By the way, I'm told the FBI
1:39:14
doesn't mind that one bid. At this point. There's no
1:39:17
indication of any credible and specific threat but FBI agents
1:39:20
and intelligence analysts are certainly looking for those
1:39:23
potential threats. One source told me that they don't want to
1:39:26
see the same violence on January 6 happen like this coming
1:39:29
Tuesday, Wolf.
1:39:30
Adam Curry: I'm gonna so yes, this is only to spin people up
1:39:33
get whole. All of this informants as they've
1:39:36
infiltrated our Discord server. They're in the IRC chat. There's
1:39:40
a troll room. They're everywhere. They're sending us
1:39:42
bad clips. I'm gonna land this plane with some humor. I'm gonna
1:39:46
land this plane with some humor. But first we need to go to a C
1:39:48
span caller from the past couple of days. Washington journal.
1:39:54
This is the independent line which gig
1:39:56
John C Dvorak: couldn't be less you don't know. Yeah, you don't
1:39:58
know.
1:39:59
Adam Curry: But I liked that this is out there. And this is
1:40:02
that people remember this.
1:40:04
Unknown: I've got I've got a request I've got to run. I've
1:40:06
got a lot of stuff to do today. But I spoken to Larry Sabato, on
1:40:11
your show before. And this matter is of utmost importance.
1:40:15
I asked him if he was familiar with the Smith month re
1:40:20
Modernization Act. It's something that got slipped into
1:40:23
the 2012, National Defense Authorization Act. He said he
1:40:29
didn't know about it. And to kind of dismiss the call, I
1:40:33
followed up with an email, like I do a lot of times, because
1:40:37
this matters so important. And of course, I've gotten nothing
1:40:40
back. So I'd like you to just ask him about the Smith
1:40:44
machinery Modernization Act. And I just want to tell you briefly,
1:40:48
what that did is it allowed our State Department to use taxpayer
1:40:55
money to disseminate propaganda within the boundaries of the
1:41:02
United States, folks that started in 2012. Our government
1:41:09
is filling us with propaganda, using our tax money to do it,
1:41:15
and the people reporting this stuff. There's no repercussions
1:41:19
for it. They have protections in the act itself. People, this is
1:41:26
why there's such a division in our country. The press is doing
1:41:30
this to us. And our government has enabled it. Thank you. Let's
1:41:36
go to Lisa who's calling from Maine, Republican line.
1:41:42
John C Dvorak: All right, so segways are the best on that
1:41:45
show.
1:41:46
Adam Curry: Final couple of clips here. Let's go to where
1:41:49
America gets all of their political news. The view will be
1:41:52
Unknown: I think you remember I said last year, what is taking
1:41:56
them so long? This is a paper trail case I needed to do have
1:42:04
everything every thing that you can get when you are a potential
1:42:10
criminal defendant is a target letter, because we used to call
1:42:13
it bugbear turn, either your phone is bugged, or you're gonna
1:42:16
turn and cooperate. Well, baby, you are it. And that's the
1:42:20
target letter. And the target letter basically says you are
1:42:22
the target of a Department of Justice investigation and I will
1:42:25
tell you that federal prosecutors have a 99.6%
1:42:29
conviction rate
1:42:29
Adam Curry: target Oh no, just like climate change. Oh, target
1:42:32
letter target letter. But but but but sunny Austin lawyer, she
1:42:39
thinks something is up here.
1:42:41
Unknown: I think that Donald Trump has a pocket pardon in his
1:42:45
safe somewhere at Mar Mar a Lago. And that means sometimes
1:42:49
the president can, it's never been done. But I met and he has
1:42:53
done it. You write a pardon for yourself a federal pardon for
1:42:57
yourself, and you keep it in your pocket. And that's why they
1:42:59
call it a pocket pardon? And even it's never been tested.
1:43:03
Because that would go to that would go to this Supreme Court,
1:43:07
the Supreme Court that is heavily conservative. And so
1:43:10
we're we're asking everyone, would you pardon him? I think he
1:43:13
would pardon himself.
1:43:14
Adam Curry: Die the pocket. Pardon? This is like the
1:43:17
trillion dollar coin. This is fantastic. I love it. It's
1:43:21
John C Dvorak: so many great show titles for today. I've
1:43:23
Adam Curry: had my book is almost full, final clip just so
1:43:27
we can. Again, no one is really talking about the contents.
1:43:30
Because Iran a supersonic missile or again talking about
1:43:34
Ari Melba Toast over there at MSNBC and he had some Jamocha
1:43:39
it's the whole the whole channel is hilarious. But this guy, the
1:43:43
whitest guy in the universe, just listen to what he does how
1:43:46
he is because he has no there's no substance. It's all just
1:43:50
black.
1:43:51
Unknown: When will federal defendant Donald Trump go on
1:43:54
trial. Special Counsel Smith unseal that indictment today and
1:43:58
vowed a speedy trial speedy trial.
1:44:01
My office will seek a speedy trial in this matter, speedy
1:44:05
system with a public interest and the rights of the accused.
1:44:09
Speed seems to be important to him. The indictment came just
1:44:13
seven months after Smith took over this post when Attorney
1:44:16
General garland appointed him.
1:44:19
Today, I signed an order appointing Jack Smith to serve
1:44:23
as Special Counsel. The extraordinary circumstances
1:44:26
presented here demanded Mr. Smith is the right choice to
1:44:31
complete these matters in an even handed and urgent manner.
1:44:38
There you have it. It's a little different now with everything we
1:44:41
know today. Garland tap the process for experience including
1:44:45
prosecuting corruption cases against politicians, including
1:44:48
Democrat John Edwards, and heads of state Smith served as a tough
1:44:52
war crimes prosecutor at The Hague where he faced sitting
1:44:55
presidents efforts to obstruct and undermine him. Smith was
1:44:59
certainly not very Famous across America but garland clearly
1:45:03
viewed him as someone who would fearlessly follow the facts. One
1:45:07
colleague recounts the Jack Smith doesn't like to sit there
1:45:12
playing with his food, a phrase that refers to getting the job
1:45:16
done. Or as Sean Carter memorably put it
1:45:19
Adam Curry: up talking about, you know, I was going to quote a
1:45:20
Jay Z lyric.
1:45:22
Unknown: I checked shatter like a food inspector. My homie
1:45:25
always told me finish your breakfast.
1:45:28
Adam Curry: Dude, this guy is insane. He's quoting Jay Z
1:45:33
lyrics. This is how this is how little substance he has to go
1:45:36
John C Dvorak: right? To this guy can't even watch this guy
1:45:39
show. What is with this with this Homer Simpson, six o'clock
1:45:43
shadow that he actually has on his face. He's hard. Either grow
1:45:48
a beard, grow it out, or shave for God's sake. The guy that
1:45:55
it's so dis adore, it's like, it's like makeup. It's just the
1:46:00
way he looks like shit on TV. Let's just put it that way.
1:46:04
Adam Curry: That's his. That's his whole. His whole vibe, man.
1:46:08
He's, you know, he's like a hip hopper.
1:46:12
John C Dvorak: I guess. So. Hip hop, hip hop.
1:46:17
Adam Curry: Dope, very dope. He so hip, and he doesn't doesn't
1:46:21
say Jay Z. So Shawn Carter, but shows you you know, I didn't
1:46:26
Shawn Carter, instead of Jay Z. i Yeah. Because I'm all in
1:46:31
studying rap lyrics. Hip Hop. Not just so we're not accused of
1:46:35
the same thing. Do you want to just hear a quick explanation of
1:46:40
why this is a bogus why these are bogus indictments. We might
1:46:44
as well do well. I
1:46:45
John C Dvorak: have one other kind of an ancillary clip we
1:46:48
should get out of the way. Okay. This is a CNN, take a disk. This
1:46:54
is kind of a it's kind of humorous. This. This is one of
1:46:58
the this is almost an ask Adam but you have to catch the gaff
1:47:01
and other catch the gaff clip. Okay, from Trump. This is CNN,
1:47:05
CNN reporting on the Trump speech in Georgia.
1:47:08
Unknown: Stan, the former president, he has once again
1:47:10
called the indictment, a witch hunt. How is what he's saying
1:47:14
today landing among the folks there at the convention?
1:47:17
Well, Alex, they loved it. You know, we long asked since this
1:47:20
happens, I guess not long, just in the last couple of days how
1:47:22
Republicans across the country we're going to react I've spoken
1:47:25
to so many Republicans, particularly around Washington
1:47:29
around Trump's inner circle, who are concerned However, here in
1:47:33
Georgia, they did not seem to have any concern. They cheered
1:47:36
him on. They enjoyed his lines where he mocked Hillary Clinton.
1:47:40
He called Jackson it's deranged. He went after former President
1:47:43
Biden called it a joke. federal indictment saying it was
1:47:48
horrible for the country.
1:47:50
Adam Curry: Former President Biden Whoa, good one.
1:47:54
John C Dvorak: know something we don't know.
1:47:55
Adam Curry: Truth must come out. That's a good one. All right.
1:48:02
Let's just finish it off. Of course, he works for Trump. He's
1:48:06
a pen but he also worked in the treasury cash Patel, but I'm
1:48:10
sorry, in the Defense Department, maybe also treasury.
1:48:15
Air but he's on with Kudlow and he explains exactly what is
1:48:18
going on with this simple let's
1:48:19
Unknown: take the indictment on face value. President Trump
1:48:23
brought things with him from the White House when he was leaving
1:48:25
the presidency. And I believe it was either tomorrow Lago
1:48:29
Bedminster I can't remember which one which one he went to
1:48:31
first. Okay. It doesn't matter if he took a sticky note, or
1:48:36
10,000 boxes of information. Last count, I had it President
1:48:39
Obama was still going through 3 million pages of documents he
1:48:42
took. And it doesn't matter what's in them, either. The same
1:48:45
law would apply to him. And so the Presidential Records Act is
1:48:48
simple. The President can take whatever he wants when he leaves
1:48:52
office. That's it. And and here's the kicker, part of that
1:48:56
access, it becomes his or her personal property. That means
1:49:00
transitions from being US government property to the
1:49:03
personal private property of the past president. That's the
1:49:07
Presidential Records Act in a nutshell, if Congress wanted,
1:49:10
the classification acts and espionage acts written in the
1:49:13
50s to supersede the Presidential act written after
1:49:16
it, they would have written the Presidential Records Act
1:49:19
differently. The law that comes after supersedes the prior
1:49:23
unless Congress says otherwise. They didn't say otherwise. In
1:49:27
the Presidential Records Act creation. In the indictment, you
1:49:31
see a paragraph or two about how President Trump is speaking to
1:49:37
his lawyer about options. And if you know President Trump, which
1:49:41
you know, which I know you do, and of course, I'm still a
1:49:44
senior advisor and I talk to him frequently. He jokes all the
1:49:47
time. That's his mannerism a lot. You can't capture that in a
1:49:52
black and white. typecast, but let's put that aside for a
1:49:56
second. So they took that and they said this, we went to a
1:50:00
federal judge, a federal judge ruled that attorney client
1:50:02
privilege doesn't doesn't apply because there's a crime fraud
1:50:05
exception. Wow.
1:50:09
Adam Curry: Totally. So I'm glad he said that it doesn't matter
1:50:11
for Biden or for Trump, which is also true, which is why I want
1:50:13
you to get off the whole boat, but but Biden, we've done it,
1:50:17
we've deconstructed it, thanks to your clips. This is all about
1:50:20
Iran. This is about the balance in the world. We can't have
1:50:22
Trump upsetting the military industrial complex, and all
1:50:25
people hanging off on it. It's the biggest line item in our
1:50:28
annual budget, projected to once again be about $850 billion
1:50:33
dollars. And Republicans and Democrats alike are all in on
1:50:38
that. There's no way around it. And so I feel good about it. I
1:50:44
feel good that you've brought this to light, new shit has come
1:50:47
to light man. Pitch the
1:50:51
John C Dvorak: house actually trying to track down some Ray
1:50:54
McGovern stuff is when I ran into this. This is a strange
1:50:58
podcast. I can't remember. I'm sorry. I don't have the name of
1:51:00
it. But the podcasts themselves kind of just lets people talk he
1:51:06
doesn't really have much to contribute.
1:51:07
Adam Curry: Well, that's interesting. I think it was a
1:51:09
clip I had for the last show of RFK, Jr, you may have seen this
1:51:16
one. If I talked about what I was thinking about it would have
1:51:19
I would have been D platformed. But once Ilan took over, I
1:51:23
started you know, they they they unshackled me. But also I think
1:51:29
this is going to be this year is going to be the political
1:51:33
campaign that will be decided on by podcasts and particularly
1:51:37
because the candidates are not wanting to debate. So not only
1:51:43
not only is Biden not debating, but I think Trump may not debate
1:51:52
so I think people like me are going to end up going to are
1:51:56
gonna, you know, we're going to really test whether these
1:51:59
podcasts and you know, I was talking about, about Tucker,
1:52:06
having 4.5 million nightly views. Well, the podcast that
1:52:12
Joe Rogan did with Peter mycolic got 40 million views. So Rogan
1:52:19
is a force of nature. Yeah, so Tucker is 10 times what CNN is,
1:52:25
gets, and 10 Rogan's audiences potentially 10 times what Tucker
1:52:29
was getting. I think the I think the podcast has the capacity
1:52:34
this election for reaching people and allowing an old sort
1:52:38
of dissident and insurgent candidates like myself to end
1:52:41
run the corporate media monoliths and to reach large
1:52:46
numbers of Americans without going to the network's That's
1:52:51
right. We're the kingmakers go podcast. Yeah, and with that I'd
1:52:58
like to thank you for your courage in the morning to you
1:53:00
the man who put the seat in the mental status change ladies and
1:53:03
gentlemen please say hello to my friend on the other end the one
1:53:06
and only Mr. Jobs
1:53:11
John C Dvorak: in the morning to you Mr. Adam, curiosity and
1:53:13
morning all ships to see boots on the ground feed near subs in
1:53:16
the water and all the name tonight's okay in the morning.
1:53:24
Adam Curry: Wow, okay, we are to 2321 Isn't that good for a
1:53:32
Sunday?
1:53:33
John C Dvorak: It's a bad it's probably 100 Low 100 Low. Oh man
1:53:36
for 2400 on Sunday and 1800 on
1:53:41
Adam Curry: Thursday 18 Sunday's 20 Also, we're taking this break
1:53:45
at a buck 53 Because we only have one break in the show. It's
1:53:49
going to be pretty quick. We don't even have nights or days
1:53:52
or title changes or anything. Which of course, always makes us
1:53:56
question. Are we providing enough value? I hope I hope we
1:54:03
are.
1:54:05
John C Dvorak: Anyway learning stuff. They better be I think
1:54:08
that I am
1:54:11
Adam Curry: I learned something. Hey, you know, I learned
1:54:13
something. That's what's good. The trolls are in the troll room
1:54:17
and they and there's not a lot of them, which is nice. Yeah,
1:54:20
yeah. So I'm gonna write it down on a sticky note. I have it now.
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the modern podcast if you get all the art chapter is all kinds
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of stuff that just that's flying around, you know, that
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transcripts, all kinds of cool stuff. Also searchable in your
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app, by the way. I made a mistake. I gave Taunton Neil,
1:57:40
but I mean Ness works the credit for the previous work. Where it
1:57:44
was it was on Titan yield. It was Taunton, Neil, so I
1:57:47
apologize for that. I
1:57:48
John C Dvorak: use it. You've done that a couple of times, and
1:57:50
I've always caught you and I'm very feel I feel it was my
1:57:53
fault.
1:57:54
Adam Curry: Well, we both screwed up and we're sorry about
1:57:56
it. But Taunton, Neil gets the credit now. And we want
1:58:02
John C Dvorak: effect I thought during the thing I said, Well,
1:58:03
this will move her up the list I always actually
1:58:05
Adam Curry: you're looking at you're looking at no agenda art
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generator.com where we have a rancor, all kinds of writers
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Rancors whackers and Rancors right there on the front page.
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But today we thank damn Kenny Ben, for the artwork for episode
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1562 We titled that Think Tank and how could we not choose
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this? This was just a beautiful I would say
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John C Dvorak: oddly creepy.
1:58:35
Adam Curry: Creepy but it was a
1:58:38
John C Dvorak: it's like the man of the future. Yeah, the
1:58:40
combination of
1:58:42
Adam Curry: we talked about the Apple vision pro there ar VR
1:58:47
Visual Computing glasses. And this one had the glasses on or a
1:58:52
version of them with obey which of course is a throwback a call
1:58:57
back to they live with Roddy Piper great movie if you haven't
1:59:01
seen it. It was a good piece of art. It was you know, the more
1:59:07
you look at it the more creeped out you get.
1:59:10
John C Dvorak: Yeah, I know it's creepy but not creepy in the
1:59:12
negative sense no words gruesome and makes you cringe it's not
1:59:16
cringy creepy it's just it's it's kind of realism creepy it's
1:59:21
like this is the future get used to it
1:59:23
Adam Curry: or the future is here was kind of now there were
1:59:27
other pieces we discussed many people tried the glasses gag
1:59:33
chapelco to or had a funny one with the googly eyes we liked
1:59:36
that one see
1:59:41
John C Dvorak: capitalists agenda had a nice piece which
1:59:44
vision glasses with no agenda anything thing
1:59:48
Adam Curry: with a gas mask canister attached to it.
1:59:52
John C Dvorak: Had a sitar and yes, now this piece really stood
1:59:55
out. I thought it did.
1:59:56
Adam Curry: It was classic. No agenda. I kinda like to Taunton
2:00:01
Niels, it's Jenny, although, you know, good point you made there
2:00:06
that I know you made some point that was like I should get off
2:00:09
by the way I got a note about the Jenny thing.
2:00:13
John C Dvorak: No, what is it?
2:00:15
Adam Curry: Let me see. It's from a lawyer. FEMA Region
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number four
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John C Dvorak: small town lawyer was at a cease and desist No.
2:00:25
Small Town
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Adam Curry: Alabama thought I would share with you a boots on
2:00:28
the ground story related to the last episode. I worked for local
2:00:30
law firm as a legal assistant. I've done that for almost 30
2:00:33
years legal assistance. Bottom line is very long note but you
2:00:37
can read it in the in the show notes is that a couple came
2:00:42
because one of their moms, a proper southern lady in her mid
2:00:47
to late 70s, who was a lonely widow had received text not
2:00:51
unlike the ones that we got. Unlike us. She engaged the
2:00:54
scammers on the other end but not did not engage with them
2:00:57
with the same understanding and purpose that you did on the
2:00:59
show. She took the bait and by the time her family found out
2:01:02
what had been going on she had over four to five months of
2:01:05
scammers sending up to $40,000 she had been instructed to do
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via Visa MasterCard gift cards, and she really thought that she
2:01:16
was making a friend and she really thought that by her her I
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think her daughter and and son in law interfering that they
2:01:28
were trying to stop her happiness. This is how good they
2:01:32
are doing this by Dame Rhonda synthesis. So you know
2:01:37
John C Dvorak: we had a local story I don't have a clip of it.
2:01:39
We had a local story a couple of days ago with some woman old
2:01:42
woman who was got lunch to one of the scams that's going around
2:01:48
now as you get a call this has happened before but now with the
2:01:52
artificial AI the AI voices Yeah, they can hi this is your
2:02:00
this is Jimmy your grandson. I just got arrested. Yes send
2:02:06
money, grandma and I need some money and somebody's gonna have
2:02:09
to come by and pick it up. Do you have any because I'm gonna
2:02:11
be a
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Adam Curry: paper bag brown paper.
2:02:14
John C Dvorak: Let me out. Yes, so she fell for it and it cost
2:02:18
her five grand and then says she fell for it. They ran it on her
2:02:22
again with the same kids. Oh, I I backed out of the police
2:02:27
parking lot and rammed into a car and I need another three
2:02:30
grand. She coughed that up.
2:02:32
Adam Curry: No, man. So that's so sad. Sad. No, these
2:02:36
John C Dvorak: people are really sickening that take advantage of
2:02:39
these poor people.
2:02:39
Adam Curry: Yeah, so be careful with with the aged parents. And
2:02:43
seven he's not even that aged. Now. In fact, that's 10 years
2:02:48
from now for me are 12 Seven he's not not You're not old and
2:02:52
decrepit. Now, so just be careful with
2:02:55
John C Dvorak: this mindset that of course not the ability not to
2:03:01
look into things are taken or thinking there's a scam being
2:03:05
played on you. And also thing is if you're a target for a really
2:03:09
good grifter, yeah. You're gonna you're
2:03:12
Adam Curry: gonna go through so keep an eye on your, on your, on
2:03:16
all your family, really. You can follow no agenda, art
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generator.com. While we're doing this live, we're doing it live.
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You can see the art being uploaded as we speak. Oregon,
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one of those modern podcast apps, you'll see all of this
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art, which Dred Scott puts into the chapters, you can see all
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the different choices and he uses them appropriately. It's a
2:03:35
lot of fun. So of course, we also have our treasure part,
2:03:40
which is where we thank our executive and Associate
2:03:42
Executive producers for supporting the show. We need
2:03:45
that more than anything to be honest about. It's a big deal.
2:03:48
And we kick it off with barren wasteland from Milford,
2:03:51
Michigan, who comes in with 333 69. And it's a switcheroo
2:03:57
for Wendy's future neighborhood. So we'll put a I guess, Wendy
2:04:03
wasteland in there? Yes. Even though it's not probably not her
2:04:08
name. barren wasteland requesting milk karma. Okay,
2:04:13
milk karma for my smokin hot wife. I'm in the doghouse. Oh,
2:04:18
because I said I love her for her mind. And she wants more
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body worship. What is this?
2:04:30
John C Dvorak: We live in a talk.
2:04:32
Adam Curry: We live in Milford, Michigan because MILF city
2:04:35
couldn't handler Oh, you got it sir. That's one mother. You've
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got karma.
2:04:51
John C Dvorak: And up next we have Dana Brunetti of all P O.
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Adam Curry: Dana Brunetti producer who has
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John C Dvorak: come in and whispering are at $33.33 and he
2:05:02
sent a note this morning into me saying that he this was a drunk
2:05:07
donation.
2:05:08
Adam Curry: Oh, well we love those are your claims it
2:05:11
John C Dvorak: was drunk. Well, I can deal with it. I'll do with
2:05:14
a little, little bit. So in other words, he's not wasted
2:05:18
drunk. Guy I guess he's, oh, no, he's just gonna be a little
2:05:24
slurries he
2:05:25
Adam Curry: tipsy little tipsy,
2:05:26
John C Dvorak: tipsy. He starts off call to action. The
2:05:32
donations lately have been despicable. Come on people.
2:05:37
Today is my 50th birthday. Don't send me gifts and donations with
2:05:41
50s in them instead of 50,552 50. That's where he's,
2:05:48
you know, he's big sentences falling apart. But you'll be
2:05:53
alive to hearing now is just starting to feel it. You'll be a
2:05:56
lousy associate producer, which should be just producer enough
2:06:01
with his BS associate. Okay, this is Burnett, he's got this
2:06:05
hard on Yeah. Over our usage of the Associate Producer ship.
2:06:10
Yeah, he thinks that stems from the fact that he wants donated,
2:06:15
gotta know, some years back 250 bucks, which kind of puts in
2:06:20
here and we gave him associate producer ship and he blew up?
2:06:24
Because to him the Hollywood method model is that associate
2:06:29
producer as a title you get some lackey?
2:06:31
Adam Curry: Yeah, like an intern.
2:06:34
John C Dvorak: intern or, or somebody who's just showed up to
2:06:38
do something you don't you're not gonna pay them. And so now
2:06:42
it varies from business to business. You I've noticed this
2:06:46
in, in in various like magazine publishing, newspaper
2:06:51
publishing, everyone online, they have an executive editor is
2:06:57
not the same from thing to thing to thing. And I think with
2:07:01
podcasting, I think we've chosen this we have not backed down
2:07:04
based on we're not going to back down Friday. Godly woods for the
2:07:07
guy who did one guy pitching constantly. 50 Shades
2:07:10
Adam Curry: of Grey guy come on, like, you know.
2:07:14
John C Dvorak: So we sticking with this even though he says it
2:07:16
should be as just produced between producers, which is
2:07:19
which is a good title. Anyway, he goes on, he says, Can I sit
2:07:23
at the round table and eat birthday cake? Or will there
2:07:25
even be enough donations for a knighting ceremony this show?
2:07:28
Adam Curry: Oh, wait a minute. So he is you know, he's been
2:07:31
knighted. That's what I thought. Okay, title change, then.
2:07:34
John C Dvorak: He just wants to sit there. Oh,
2:07:36
Adam Curry: you know, there's, interestingly enough, there's no
2:07:39
round. There's no no knighting today, so the round table is
2:07:43
empty. So
2:07:43
John C Dvorak: the joke's on him
2:07:50
by himself for
2:07:51
Adam Curry: a while he comes in at the right moment with his
2:07:53
complaints. Now he goes
2:07:55
John C Dvorak: on. I know I've told John I'm done with
2:07:58
Hollywood. But it's kind of like the mafia. I can't seem to get
2:08:02
out. So I have a movie coming out. No, I guess go see it is
2:08:05
called GranTurismo
2:08:07
Adam Curry: right after the grantor is that like,
2:08:09
John C Dvorak: is that video good Eastwood?
2:08:12
Adam Curry: I don't know. That's this movie.
2:08:14
John C Dvorak: There is a movie called Gran Turismo with Clint
2:08:17
Eastwood. That's 10 years old. I don't know what movie this is.
2:08:20
I'm gonna look at we'll have to look into it. He wants you to
2:08:22
look it up on IMDb. China's moving my orchard with the robot
2:08:27
lawnmower. mowing my orchard with a robot lawnmower. He says
2:08:31
you can go people should follow his Instagram account. He's got
2:08:34
one. It's pretty funny. And he's got his he's got some little
2:08:38
Chinese mower. A little turd like thing. Godhra wheels. This
2:08:42
Adam Curry: thing has Orlando Bloom in it is oh, yeah, it's
2:08:47
like, it's like, this is a movie of the games. Yeah, Todd knew
2:08:50
it. Interesting.
2:08:53
John C Dvorak: China's remote mowing my Oh, and he goes on.
2:08:56
There's a long note, Dana. John and I became real friends
2:09:00
recently when Alex and I were supposed to eat well, we almost
2:09:02
became real friends. When are we going to have busy breakfast at
2:09:05
his house. But then he canceled on us. So he had to pick up
2:09:09
someone at the airport. This is how bad the donations have
2:09:12
gotten. He's resorted to being an Uber driver. Also, can I tell
2:09:19
you up two bills for wine and dinner? We've had his donations
2:09:22
so
2:09:25
Adam Curry: Wow, okay. All right, then. It's just
2:09:29
John C Dvorak: you know, please change my title the governor of
2:09:32
the great state of Eldorado. John can explain. Well, he's he
2:09:38
has caught wind of the fact that trying to change where he lives
2:09:44
into the state of Eldorado. Now he's trying to he's trying to do
2:09:47
one of those and I guess myself and another bunch of locals have
2:09:51
told him why he stuck Why doesn't he run for governor
2:09:53
then? And so he just wants to change his title to Governor
2:09:56
makes it easier
2:09:57
Adam Curry: no problem. Consider it done bro. Consider It dumps
2:10:00
out this this is a massive cast he's he is listed as producer
2:10:05
not executive but producer. Less he's probably produced. Yeah, I
2:10:09
guess oh with Doug Belgrad and it's a man it's an Orlando Bloom
2:10:14
vehicle as we say in the biz. Yes, we've, we've, we've got to
2:10:18
Lando blooms people are very interested Gran Turismo nice
2:10:26
man, congratulations.
2:10:27
John C Dvorak: What's the story plot? Does it say? Well,
2:10:30
Adam Curry: yes, of course it does. The plot is this IMDb is
2:10:40
slow. The ultimate wish fulfillment tale of teenage Gran
2:10:43
Turismo player whose gaming skills won a series of Nissan
2:10:46
competitions to become an actual professional racecar driver
2:10:50
based on a based on a true story. Nice, yeah. Looks pretty
2:10:59
cool. This is the kind of guy be good. He
2:11:01
John C Dvorak: does good work.
2:11:02
Adam Curry: So when you become an executive producer or
2:11:04
Associate Executive Producer of the no agenda show, this is the
2:11:08
ranks of people you're in with on IMDb. Yes, reference, this
2:11:12
guy cross reference. Very cool. Thank you, Dana. And we will of
2:11:16
course, give you that title change. Do you end with his
2:11:20
bottoms up?
2:11:22
John C Dvorak: Oh, he says bottoms up. He says that all the
2:11:24
time. All right. Thank you also refers to drinks that way.
2:11:29
Adam Curry: So see, you're so fast. Sir. SCOBY is next
2:11:32
Charlotte, North Carolina 333 dot 33. In the morning, your
2:11:35
coverage of trans Maoism is well done and much appreciated. Thank
2:11:38
you for educating us so we can talk to the topic with
2:11:41
confidence on a lighter Ned note. Too many eggs is
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absolutely wonderful. Too many eggs.com George Washington's
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eggnog will be a new addition to festivities in my home. Yes,
2:11:54
George Washington's egna I'm going to make it George
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Washington's eggnog and I'm going to drop in my false teeth
2:12:01
just to make it authentic. Appreciate you both sir. SCOBY
2:12:04
roll off the Piedmont Thank you very much sir
2:12:08
John C Dvorak: Nelson Mullins in East Lake Ohio comes up. Ben
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began listening in Episode 100 or so so we're going to quit
2:12:17
thank you Leo for introducing me to the best podcast in the
2:12:20
universe. Do donation please forgive me pot father for I have
2:12:24
deuced been a couple of years since my last donation call out
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Tom is a douchebag he's got some jingle requests your weenie in
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the butt boy you got butt slammed but slammed and then a
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Hot Pocket karma for all producers. Thank you. Whoa, you
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got butt slam
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Adam Curry: you've got karma. Happy to comply. Gail Fuller,
2:12:53
our first Associate Executive producer or some would say
2:12:56
producer incoming ga $250. This donation is made to celebrate my
2:13:00
husband Scott fuller completing his 47 trip around the sun. I
2:13:05
said son in honor of this momentous occasion all he asked
2:13:09
for was new socks a good barbecue and a no agenda
2:13:12
donation. So here you go. Happy Birthday Scott.
2:13:17
John C Dvorak: is on the list and of course, sir Timothy in
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Plymouth Michigan 201 33 Dear John and Adam thank you for all
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you do please send travel karma conference presentation karma
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and relocation karma in equal measure no jingles just super
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karma. Thanks in advance sir Timothy of no fixed titled Baron
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of the Upper Peninsula super
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Adam Curry: karma and coming with Karma do you live
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Unknown: to the karma karma? supercomputer
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John C Dvorak: Peninsula Michigan is where fudge was
2:13:51
invented.
2:13:52
Adam Curry: Well, how about that? Linda, Lou Potkin,
2:13:58
Lakewood, Colorado. Jobs karma for all of you job hunters out
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there. And for a competitive edge Go to Image makers inc.com
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Karma Well, at least
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Adam Curry: Linda's consistent. Appreciate that. Yeah, she
2:14:26
John C Dvorak: keeps donating for the plug. Yeah, Jim Chu and
2:14:29
Andover, Massachusetts. $200. See note I do have the note.
2:14:34
Okay. And he said, printed notes of Jim from Andover. 200 bucks.
2:14:40
It's been so long since I have donated I've been feeling very
2:14:44
douchey hence, I here with bequeath unto thee a token of my
2:14:49
appreciation for the abundant value you provide. If I may, if
2:14:55
I may be racist. We Asians sure love value and I
2:15:04
Adam Curry: always Asian price. There it is now that's racist.
2:15:08
Yes. Oh we love our Asian races.
2:15:11
John C Dvorak: Yeah. And I love and I so love the no agenda
2:15:14
show. Thanks for all the always remaining folks for always
2:15:19
remaining folks that the partisan of both reality A and B
2:15:24
exaggerate and take things out of context and make people crazy
2:15:27
upset that the same time I appreciate how you shine needed
2:15:31
light on the evil which is being so widely perpetrated in the
2:15:35
name of good a prayer requests of the community for all tech
2:15:38
business types who have been laid off recently and are seeing
2:15:43
very few openings to apply for this as a fact, especially
2:15:46
around here. A lot of people are quite scared. He's in
2:15:50
Massachusetts, which is another Tech Center. Finally a shout out
2:15:53
to the creator of the universe and his son Jesus who did it for
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me what I could not do for myself create me and forgive me.
2:15:59
Jim Chao is pronounced Ciao, chumps. No jingles no karma.
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Ciao. Ciao.
2:16:07
Adam Curry: Ciao to you, brother. Thank you. Excellent.
2:16:10
And that is our executive and Associate Executive Producer
2:16:13
lists for episode 1563 of the no agenda show. As I said, it's,
2:16:18
it's pretty short. And we do have a couple of other donations
2:16:21
through the 50s. John's gonna take you there and then we'll
2:16:23
get to our birthdays and our meetups and we'll, we'll get the
2:16:27
rest of the show going.
2:16:29
John C Dvorak: We'll start with medieval Chris, in north Wales,
2:16:32
Pennsylvania, and 12345 which is a great number and he needs a D
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douching.
2:16:40
Unknown: D deuced.
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John C Dvorak: Zach Schwartz and Allah Chuah Alachua I'm
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guessing, Florida $100.69. And we'll give you some
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housebuilding karma at the end. Which you request then oops,
2:16:59
there he is way up there. He's already number 12 which is the
2:17:02
highest he's been for a while in terms of the same donation
2:17:05
moving up the ladder, because there's not that many donations
2:17:08
today. Kevin McLaughlin in New York, Lucas, North Carolina 808.
2:17:13
For America in boobed Craig Carl would in Utopia Texas. Seven.
2:17:22
Carol I'm sorry, Cory Ainsworth with a birthday in Madison,
2:17:27
Wisconsin. 6988. He says he's been listening for over 500
2:17:32
shows. Joseph Stegman at 1000 Oaks, California for 66. Up
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Kevin McLaughlin again he's holding up the show. Oh oh six
2:17:45
small boob donation. Paul Allen of Waynesboro, Virginia. $60 He
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has the best business cards. Band straw in Nashville,
2:17:57
Tennessee. Sunday brunch over easy 5993 Lester Tarr kowski in
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Kingman Arizona. 57. Sir, not Jake and Thompson, Connecticut
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5678. seeds, seeds and sundries liberty, Michigan, Maine and
2:18:15
liberty Maine. This is calling all Mainers Yeah, go ahead and
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check out the no agenda meetup page for our inaugural Mini Me
2:18:23
is meetup
2:18:24
Adam Curry: Midcoast. Coming up. Yeah, I'll read it again in a
2:18:27
moment. David Fergus zotoh.
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John C Dvorak: Our buddy in Gladstone, Missouri. 55 To my
2:18:32
Bay. This is the bay we're the only Bay we've gotten so far.
2:18:38
Adam Curry: Very successful promotion. Yeah, baby.
2:18:45
John C Dvorak: We got brain of Frager in Richmond Hill,
2:18:48
Georgia. And this is a switcheroo donate for per Bay.
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Justin love you Bay. Nice. So we had to. There may be another one
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coming up. I said I'd read them all. Jura Geron, your rune, ya
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ruined, then paneling in in Laguna Niguel. Oh, he's in
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California and Netherlands. 55 Sir Mark in Greenwood, Indiana
2:19:17
5333 Which
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Adam Curry: through donation from Sir Mark Greenwood to his
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keeper de Maria of the Greek kingdoms kingdoms and he says
2:19:25
you are simply amazing. I think that's a bay donation. I think
2:19:28
that's a bay donations and put the bay in there.
2:19:30
John C Dvorak: Christine Hines in Manchester New Hampshire.
2:19:34
5123 Bob Butler and coming Georgia he has two donations of
2:19:40
5069 one and there's another one
2:19:43
Adam Curry: I make good for his missing his regular Thursday.
2:19:45
Thank you, Bob. Bad idea
2:19:48
John C Dvorak: supply. Parts Unknown. I don't know $50 or 50
2:19:52
cents. Dame night in Edmonds, Washington 5015. Sir Allen in
2:20:00
the middle Bank of South Dakota 5014. He's got a birthday coming
2:20:06
up for Edward. And here we go. Nadia borg in San Marcos,
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California 50 These are all 50s including Margarita, Yves den
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hood, in orange Vale, California. 50 Tom del Vecchio
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and blend in Pennsylvania. Andrew Grasso in Mineola. New
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York, Gavin McGoldrick in San Francisco, Cory Cunningham and
2:20:34
Warren Warren tun Virginia. Stephen tacony I'm just seeking
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help for this bay thing went to Stephen we got nothing going on
2:20:47
here now the
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Adam Curry: bay thing is not
2:20:50
John C Dvorak: there's no basically nobody has a bay I
2:20:52
guess.
2:20:53
Adam Curry: I don't even know why. How did you even come up
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with that we I mean did you literally look at for what the
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hell's going on you just chat GPT it or something? And he said
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no, no, I
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John C Dvorak: went to I have a list of this special days and
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it's just it was up there and I said well and came up with this
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one Sean
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Adam Curry: Parker. Carter. I mean, Jay Z Shawn Carter.
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John C Dvorak: Stephen tuck the Littleton Colorado Morrow top yo
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in Savannah, Georgia. Needs a Morrow needs a de douching
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Adam Curry: deep dish where the bay is where the bays
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John C Dvorak: Andrew Perez and San Marcos who has a switcheroo
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for his brothers Lou's birthday, okay. And at least we got that
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out of the way and says
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Adam Curry: please do do Shem is he's an awesome brother. Totally
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not a douche.
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John C Dvorak: D deuced. And last in our list of fabulous 41
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donors out of a million listeners. Ricky worthy in San
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Lorenzo California. 50 bucks from him. That's it.
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Adam Curry: Those are our donations I did want good to
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hear from San Lorenzo once in a while. did want to mention we
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got Lindsey Nolo checks and notes from the $500 donation
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from the last show which we did not have the whole note is in
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there. But she was explaining why Nola checks noted check
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meats had to close. And I think it's important to to hear this.
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I said the end of the day we realize the current system isn't
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set up for small business like ours to succeed and is based on
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a pay to play model they had some of the best meats in the
2:22:29
business, fourth generation meat people. Our tax dollars are
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subsidizing programs, economic development, rural development,
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grant programs, workforce development, etc. that are meant
2:22:40
to assist small businesses. But really, the