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June 22nd, 2023 • 3h 4m

1566: Hush Up Boy!

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Adam Curry: Live, Adam curry Jhansi Tavares say June 22 2023
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This is your award winning combination media assassination
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episode 1566. This
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Unknown: is no agenda looking over
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Adam Curry: here, not over there and broadcasting live from the
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heart of the Texas hill country here in FEMA Region number six
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in the morning, everybody. I'm Adam curry
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John C Dvorak: from Northern Silicon Valley where I'm
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wondering, When did Chloe Moretz become Chloe Grace Moretz, um,
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Genesee Dvorak?
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Adam Curry: Wow. A riddle this early on in the show. A riddle
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who is Chloe Moretz.
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John C Dvorak: chloro go nuts. Chloe Grace. Marissa, who is
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that? She's an actress she's she's very if you saw or you
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know who she was. She was on the Today Show. Our three this
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morning I was watching as eating as I was eating breakfast.
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Adam Curry: More interesting would be watching your show
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John C Dvorak: ever?
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Adam Curry: Well, you know, as we are rewatching friends, as we
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do from time to time, we noticed the moment when Courtney Cox
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Bitcoin became Courtney Cox Once you marry and I forgot. Why are
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we even talking about this?
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John C Dvorak: You I just mentioned it as an opener. i
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Adam Curry: What? What did you have for breakfast? I was going
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for breakfast is more interesting.
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John C Dvorak: I had a pancake and an egg on top. Grand Slam
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star
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Adam Curry: truckers truckstop breakfast I love that.
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Excellent. Well good then you're ready for it
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yeah, this has got to be the biggest distraction of the week.
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Everybody falling for it the most emailed articles the most
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emailed and posted theories and you even participated at some
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point. No, yes you did on no agenda social. It did. Yes. You
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did. You're like yeah, that was my thought. Like they probably
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it's probably hit job on somebody's
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John C Dvorak: job guy. Yeah, job. Oh, yeah. Yeah, Pakistani
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billionaire. Yeah,
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Adam Curry: it's the sub
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Unknown: back in 2018. Industry experts expressed concern about
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the Titan sub in a letter addressed to stock did rush, the
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CEO of ocean gate, which operates the sub. In that letter
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obtained by the New York Times and later authenticated by ABC
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News. The Marine technology society warned of potentially
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catastrophic problems with the Titans development that could
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have serious consequences. The group insisted on oversight from
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a third party organization, there has been a lot of
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headlines calling this a tourist hub. This is not a tourist hub.
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It must be understood this as an experimental craft, and that
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there are significant risks attached to it. hemper says
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after the letter was leaked, ocean gate CEO made changes he
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made it more clear that it's an expeditionary or a experimental
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aircraft. Meanwhile, many observers have been surprised to
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learn the vessel is steered using a video game controller.
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But that does not concern experts few people
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are aware of is that the unit US military has happily embraced
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this kind of technology. We are operating drones. We are firing
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lasers and operating periscopes on US Navy submarines using
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similar technology.
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Adam Curry: I love the story. This is the story. Everybody
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wants. Oh yeah, man. I mean, this is why we all watch space
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launches. That we want to see him die. Come on, man. Listen,
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we want to help me now. It will be very NASCAR theory. Yes.
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It'll be very unsatisfactory. If we're not if we're not pulling
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dead bodies out of a sub depleted of air. That's what we
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want. The whole world is captured by it.
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John C Dvorak: It's almost I had no in the mind of ever
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discussing this story. But I'm glad you did. i By the way, it
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was only brought into it as a response to somebody mentioning
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my thesis.
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Adam Curry: Yeah, but I mean, you engage man. You engaged in
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the distraction of the century Game
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John C Dvorak: Controller aspect of this is the funniest part.
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Yeah, this
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Adam Curry: show is run on a game controller. What are people
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talking about?
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John C Dvorak: Everything is it's a great product.
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Adam Curry: Yes. We love it. The member when where's the data
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glove? Bring the day the glove back. I love that thing.
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Remember, people were hacking the data glove from Nintendo.
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Remember that thing? That was? Wow, that thing was
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John C Dvorak: cool. You have one?
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Adam Curry: I have some I had one at some point. Definitely.
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Definitely. Oh, I thought that thing was the best.
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John C Dvorak: You know my favorite thing about this story
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is the people coming out of the woodwork to talk about how
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dangerous this is. And my favorite guy. Was was some
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character says All it needs is it Nick in the hall? And it'll
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collapse on itself.
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Adam Curry: Yeah, that's what we're all waiting for. And I
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love the we heard we heard knocking here we heard knocking
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with one of our probes that we can't find it. I mean, I had
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this
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John C Dvorak: supposedly somebody heard knocking from an
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airplane, what was that?
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Adam Curry: They dropped a probe, they dropped a probe. And
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then they said, probe, the same probe, they dropped a blow to
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Nord Stream pipeline. Okay, so that was one story. But the next
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story, this I love this story. We've been tracking it, we've
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been tracking everything from fake meat to the new cell, cell
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based meat, which is this ghastly idea of extracting cells
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from an animal, presumably a chicken or chicken egg, and then
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growing meat in in the big vat, and then serving that as like
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growing bacteria. Yes, growing cells like cancer cells. So the
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USDA, not
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John C Dvorak: the order he used guar.
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Adam Curry: Explain gwrc. Everyone knows what it is.
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John C Dvorak: It's a biscuit goo that you put in the bottom
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of the petri dish to
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Adam Curry: morrow to mold stuff they mined. So I'm thinking so
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the USDA approved the use of this approve this. Now, that's
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not the FDA, the Food and Drug Administration, but the USDA
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approved it. So it now can go into some restaurants. And
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there's a whole new marketing tactic behind it. And I just
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have to go through this because that I mean, there's money
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behind this, their scripts behind this. It's identical
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scripts. You're allowed to me to do a variation, if you will. But
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of course, initially, this was climate change. We need to move
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to protein and soy based meat, because cow farts are killing
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the world. According to Greta, I think was yesterday was five
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years since the world would be expire, thanks to her tweet.
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John C Dvorak: Yeah, she said that the world would come to an
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end yesterday. Yeah. And we're not doing that with GM. She
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didn't say this yesterday. She said it five years ago, he
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predicted it was going to
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Adam Curry: come to an end, but it would be pretty much however,
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yeah, it'd be hell. So ABC, who of course get paid the most
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money. And let's see if you can figure out what the key is in
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the support. And then I have three other really short ones.
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And then I have the the mega native ad from NPR.
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Unknown: This morning, the USDA for the first time has approved
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lab grown meat to be sold to the public. So that's where it all
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starts just a few cells to cultivated meat producers now
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getting the green light to begin commercially selling their
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chicken products. Lab grown meat is created using cells from
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living animals such as fertilized eggs, which was then
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incubated and grown into large masses of meat and the stainless
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mass bio reactors. ABCs Devin Dwyer recently got a tour of
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California based upside foods where meat is cultivated, you're
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making chicken in there. Yeah. So
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if you look at this, this is a approximately a 200 plus liter
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tank. And we take cells from a chicken or egg takes two weeks
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to grow the equivalent of one chicken 1000 chickens or 100,000
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chickens. So you're saying that this factory you can make more
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meat faster and cleaner than an average farmer? Well,
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ultimately, yes,
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the company says lab grown meat could be instrumental in helping
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feed the world's growing population as meat demand rises,
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while using a fraction of the land and water of animal farming
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helping to reduce greenhouse gas emissions. Critics argue it's no
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silver bullet with the potential for major socio economic
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implications and questions about how the meat is labeled. Many
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experts say more study is needed
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more research and just caution I think that a lot of companies
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are going to use or present the best case scenarios
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as for how the lab grown chicken tastes
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alright, my first bite cultivated me
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Adam Curry: chicken Yeah, okay, so the payoff is the same for
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everybody. Oh, it tastes like chicken. But did you catch the
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the new marketing the new marketing that they're using?
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But no, not really. You take it from living animals. Not you
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don't kill an animal. living animals.
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Unknown: The age of lab grown meat has arrived in this
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country. The Agriculture Department just approved to
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California companies to sell chicken grown in steel tanks
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using cells that come from an animal egg or a special bank of
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stored cells. To sell cultivated chicken will first be available
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at a restaurant in San Francisco and another one in Washington DC
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owned by famed chef Jose on today's before hitting stores
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now
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Adam Curry: CBS didn't get any money. They didn't they didn't
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use the script. Do you know that Chef by the way, the famed chef
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he's a famous chef. Okay, well he needs to be checked off the
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list. He's no good. No. I think all the fox affiliates they got
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the they got the ad by the first time
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Unknown: you as regulators approved this als chicken made
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from animal cells. It allows two California companies to offer
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lab grown meat to restaurants. The cultivated meat is grown in
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steel tanks using cells that come from a living animal, a
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fertilized egg or a special bank of stored
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Adam Curry: cells, a living animal and this fox affiliate
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took it one step further.
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Unknown: The US Department of Agriculture has approved the
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sale of chicken made from animal cells so cultivated
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or cultured meat as it's been called as grown in steel tanks
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using cells that come from a living animal comes on and
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sheets and cut to mimic real meat they say to California
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companies, upside foods and good meats have raised to be the
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first in the US to sell meat that
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doesn't come from slaughtered animals.
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Adam Curry: Oh, nice variation, not from slaughtered animals. So
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you could only imagine the the bubbly women at NPR we just have
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a field day with this one. That NPR has slid so far downhill is
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it's a this is something you'd expect from gimlet partly what
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does it Spotify podcast?
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John C Dvorak: If you think you're just noticing that this
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has been going on for a decade I
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Adam Curry: know you have you have actually accentuated this
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in recent shows with these these women dingbats? Yes, I hate to
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say it but they're dingbats indeed
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Unknown: US Department of Agriculture.
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Adam Curry: She'll start off just we've got to analyze this
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she starts off serious and the minute she's no she's getting to
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the story. And to her, her compatriot her
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John C Dvorak: or her comedy partner and comedy
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Adam Curry: comedy partner, she starts to get all jiggy with it.
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Unknown: The US Department of Agriculture has for the first
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time in history given a green light to two US companies to
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sell meat that is grown directly from animal cells without
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slaughtering the animal to she
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Adam Curry: got the slaughtering the animal mean this is very
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good. So she's read the the required copy.
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Unknown: Until recently it was called lab grown meats and
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scientists were developing it in labs. Now though the labs have
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been replaced by production facilities that can grow 10s of
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1000s of pounds of meat a year. Rolla, Harris Allison Aubrey has
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visited these companies and tasted the meat and joins us
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now.
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Adam Curry: She's tasted the
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Unknown: mean I'm really excited now though the labs have been
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replaced by production facilities that can grow 10s of
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1000s of pounds of meat a year. And BRS Allison Aubrey has
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visited these companies and tasted the meat and joins us
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now. Hey, Allison.
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Adam Curry: Hi, there. Hi there. Hey, Alison. Hi, there's time
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from serious report.
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Unknown: So Alison, what exactly did the USDA approved today?
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Well, for 1000s of years, eating meat has meant slaughtering
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animals slaughtering
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Adam Curry: animals. You getting them the marketing pitch here,
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Unknown: but the scientists behind the two companies that
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received USDA clearance today say that's no longer necessary.
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Instead, they produce meat by extracting cells from an
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animal's body, then they feed the cells and literally grow
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meat in big stainless steel tanks.
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John C Dvorak: Does this sound like he should be fired
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immediately?
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Adam Curry: Like Bill Nye the Science Guy? Female Version? I
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mean, yeah, I mean, they're just jumping over this.
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John C Dvorak: gushing is the word. Thank you.
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Unknown: Their production facilities look like breweries
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almost. But instead of beer, they're brewing meats and buying
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Adam Curry: meat. Oh, yes, this is so she's a science editor. I
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miss it because she's really doing a good job to speak.
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Unknown: I do not know how I feel about that. But okay, let's
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go on here. Hearing about me for a long time. Now. I mean, a lot
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of us have eaten our fair share of veggie burgers. Burgers over
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the years. But what makes this different? What makes is
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this is nothing like the Impossible Burger or,
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Adam Curry: Oh, John. Did you know that this is nothing like
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the Impossible Burger?
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Unknown: ossible burgers over the years. But what makes us
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different.
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This is nothing like the Impossible Burger or a veggie
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burger, which are made from vegetable proteins of soy,
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potato protein and a bunch of other ingredients that are mixed
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together mystery ingredients that tastes like meat. What's
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approved for sale today actually is meat.
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Adam Curry: Oh, it's Oh, it actually is meat. Oh, okay. I'm
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happy to know that this stuff you grew in, have you brewed you
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brewed this meat and it's actually me three
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Unknown: hands that are mixed together to taste like meat.
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What's approved for sale today actually is meat. When I said
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foods which is headquartered in Berkeley, they prepared their
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chicken which is grown directly from chicken cells. It's more
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than 99% Chicken cells. It was pan
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Adam Curry: their secret ingredient and
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Unknown: a lovely buttery wine sauce. Oh
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Adam Curry: John. Oh, she got duped. They put this hunk of
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celcom cultured precancerous goo into a lovely, lovely buttery
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wine saw sluggard
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Unknown: in Berkeley, they prepared their chicken which is
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grown directly from chicken cells. It's more than 99%
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Chicken cells. It was pan seared and a kind of lovely buttery
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wine sauce.
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I mean, Alison, you're kind of burying the lede here. How did
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it taste? How was it?
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You know, I think almost anything cooked in butter and
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wine probably tastes good. What did impress me is the texture.
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They've basically replicated the texture of chicken breast. I
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told the CEO of upside foods, uma valetti. Hey, it tastes just
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like chicken. Oh, this
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Adam Curry: is this. Everyone's got the great line tastes just
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like chicken. And this guy. I mean, are we sure that he's
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actually the chicken growing guy, or is he the guy from
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Google? I don't know.
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Unknown: It is chicken. It's just chicken growing.
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Adam Curry: Google, like Sundar Pichai. He's moonlighting as the
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chicken guy. I'm telling you,
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Unknown: it is chicken. It's just chicken grown directly from
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animal cells in a different way. Yeah,
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John C Dvorak: it is. Right there. It's
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Unknown: a lie. It is not chicken.
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John C Dvorak: It's not chicken. It's a tumor. What they're doing
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is growing tumors. Well, at least I have the texture was it
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not a tumor?
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Adam Curry: I'm in agreeance was rebranded.
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John C Dvorak: Right, get it get it out of the way rebranded
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quick chicken tumor tumors.
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Adam Curry: Just plain old tumors. tumors in want tonight
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we have tumors to
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John C Dvorak: butters and wine and butter into buttery.
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Unknown: It is chicken is just chicken grown directly from
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animal cells in a different way in a very clean controlled
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environment.
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Oh no. Dr. valetti is a cardio that's also
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Adam Curry: interesting how they do it's clean, clean environment
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not did it mainly mainly makes you think of chicken poop. nasty
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ass chickens walking around. I mean, this is actually a oh, I
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should have played the jingle. feel bad about it. This is a war
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on chicken.
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John C Dvorak: We had to work on chicken before remember. Yeah.
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But yeah. We have a jingle.
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Unknown: Yeah, here it is. Here's the jingle
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on chicken.
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Adam Curry: We predicted this years ago that this would happen
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years ago. years ago. It's
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Unknown: just chicken grown directly from animal cells in a
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different way in a very clean controlled environment.
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John C Dvorak: Now Dr. valetti Russia. Yeah, sure. So these
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journalists does and you've you've already given us ABC,
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CBS, NBC. Now we're on NPR. There's one journalist anywhere,
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say to that guy. Is there anything else besides chicken?
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You can grow like beef or buffalo or, or Yak, or dinosaurs
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or anything? Is there any other thing you can grow besides
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chicken? Can
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Adam Curry: we go woolly mammoth? We I think we have a
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woolly mammoth.
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John C Dvorak: Did anyone ask that simple question. That would
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be the first thing I'd ask
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Adam Curry: it. It wasn't asked per se but it came up as kind of
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a toss away at the end of this report. My question would be,
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can we grow human meat for consumption? I hear human meat.
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Delicious. Delicious
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Unknown: is good. What did impress me is the texture
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they've basically replicated the texture with
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just chicken grown directly from animal cells in a different way
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in a very clean controlled environment.
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Now, Dr. valetti is a cardiologist who became a
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vegetarian but he loves the taste of meat. And he thinks
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this is a better way to produce meat one that could be better
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for the environment. And as the son of a veterinarian, he likes
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the idea of sparing animals lives.
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Oh, don't kill the chicken.
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Okay, so where can people buy it or get a taste of
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it? Right now don't expect to see it in grocery stores. To
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start out both companies have kind of teamed up with famous
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chefs upside foods is working with Chef Dominique Crenn, a
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Michelin starred chef in San Francisco and good meat. The
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other company that got clearance today has partnered with
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megastar Jose Andres
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Adam Curry: who will yeah you know these guys?
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John C Dvorak: Well, this she she mentioned Dominique Crenn.
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Yeah. Which is Corinne Atal Lea. The most expensive restaurant or
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one of them. Definitely in San Francisco but in the world.
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Yeah. Yeah, she's she bought into this. She must not be
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making this mistake. Even. Despite her ridiculously high
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prices that are restaurants she must be losing her ass. Do this.
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Well, I mean, reputation ruined her juice. Now cooking tumors
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Unknown: serve cultivated chicken at one of his
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restaurants.
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I mean, so why should people want this what is wrong with the
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way that meats produced today? Oh, now this
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is an in depth question. It depends on who you ask. So
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traditional meat industry says the status quo is efficient, but
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meat production has a big environmental footprint. I
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talked about Bruce Friedrich who heads the nonprofit Good Food
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Institute he investments in protein alternatives and says
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there are more than 150 companies working to bring
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cultivated meat and seafood to market
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Adam Curry: so she interviewed a guy who has investments in
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alternative food for some for some free standing advice which
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would not be influenced by anything these people are
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Unknown: working on the global demand for meat is expected to
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double by 2050
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did me gives consumers everything that they liked about
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me, but it requires a fraction of the land requires
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significantly less water and
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now it remains to be seen whether cultivated meat
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production can lower
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Adam Curry: that guy's that guy's got to get with the
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program. He is missing the boat instead of it's no longer about
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climate change, buddy. It's no longer about that. It's about
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not killing animals not slaughtering animals. In fact,
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the title which was disappointing that didn't use
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the term the title of the NPR report was no kill meat
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Unknown: greenhouse gas emissions from producing meat
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but what is clear is that now that cultivated meat is approved
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for sale it is no longer science fiction, people will get a
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chance to taste it.
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All right, that is NPR is Allison. Aubrey, thank you so
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much.
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Adam Curry: Thank you. Great to be here. Great to be here. Thank
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you. Okay. So I'll then I'll shut up. So while everyone was
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distracted by no kill meat and brewing meat, massive question,
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yeah.
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John C Dvorak: If you're a vegan How do you take this
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philosophically?
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Adam Curry: I think it's okay, because you're not killing the
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animal.
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John C Dvorak: I don't think what if you Yeah, I'm not I
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don't think that's the point of veganism.
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Adam Curry: Yeah, but maybe we can grab the vegans as well.
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What
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John C Dvorak: about vegetarian if you're okay to forget the
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vegan Cisco's vegetarians? vegetarians don't eat meat
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because it's it has anything to do with killing animals that I
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know Oh, yes.
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Adam Curry: Yeah. Say
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John C Dvorak: like vegetables.
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Adam Curry: Right? But is the vegetarian is really about the
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killing of animals. I mean, I don't know I think
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John C Dvorak: veganism isn't it? No, I
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Adam Curry: think I don't know. I I I love meat I love and I'm
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like too crazy about chicken because you know, unless I get
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one from local from someone's backyard. Yeah. Viable Product.
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It is a terrible product. So it's most vicious terrible these
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days, too. We eat beef. But now we have no no brewing. It'll be
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even a better slogan brewing beef. Get on it, people will
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start to brew some beef. So anyway, all of this was
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distraction. Hahaha fantastic submarine brewing meat.
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Meanwhile, the elites of the world, including our leaders,
22:51
were literally dividing up the spoils of war in Ukraine. And I
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looked into
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John C Dvorak: this they had a meeting already about re how
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they're going to rebuild who's gonna get what contract and oh,
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yeah, it's not even over.
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Adam Curry: Oh, no. But this thing has been going on for six
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years. I'll explain first now this is the report that got me
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interested TRT there's the Turkish radio and television
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report.
23:14
Unknown: Billions of dollars have already been pledged to
23:16
supply and train Ukraine's military. But attention is now
23:19
turning to Ukraine's reconstruction. The British are
23:25
hosting a Ukraine recovery conference in London this week.
23:28
He was Secretary Antony Blinken arrived on Tuesday, over 60
23:32
countries will be represented.
23:34
President Biden said from the outset of Russia's aggression
23:37
against Ukraine that we would stand with Ukraine for as long
23:40
as it takes. And both of our countries are deeply committed
23:43
to that we will continue to deliver on that commitment,
23:46
including through a new robust US assistance package that I'll
23:51
be able to announce tomorrow.
23:54
On Tuesday, the EU Commission announced another $54 billion
23:57
for the next four years.
23:59
This includes both loans and grants. The Preserve will
24:04
provide first of all perspective for our partners in Ukraine.
24:10
And it should also incentivize other donors to step up to the
24:15
World Bank says Ukraine will need 400 billion to rebuild the
24:20
same as Germany after World War Two, a huge task that will need
24:24
efficient coordination and private sector investment. And
24:28
that will require reassurance about kyiv's commitment to
24:31
reform and fight
24:33
Adam Curry: corruption. So he kind of gave it away there. This
24:36
used to be called the Ukraine reform Conference, which started
24:40
in 2017. That was the first one is held in in the UK. And they
24:47
changed that last year into the Ukraine recovery conference, you
24:53
could keep the same acronym the same logos. They just replaced
24:56
the word reform with recovery. You and I looked at the program
25:02
and I watch the videos and it makes no sense to listen to
25:05
them. They are talking about import export taxes taxation on
25:12
agriculture companies they're the soil contracts they're
25:16
dividing this entire country up amongst themselves with your
25:20
with our money. Oh yeah, no this is we have a grants and loans
25:25
and all this stuff. Oh yes, it's gonna be and it's all about
25:29
building back better I kid you not restoring livelihood. They
25:35
don't care about Ukrainian people how many we need to get
25:37
more workers back there to exploit the soil if this is big
25:43
agriculture in a massive way. And then we've got BlackRock and
25:49
JP Morgan, they will be handling the recovery bank. Well, what
25:53
could possibly go wrong with that? to it, this is
25:57
unbelievable. No, it's I totally believable, but no one was
26:02
really reporting on this. There's not a lot of us news
26:04
about this reporting on it now. Not even not even UK NEWS. And
26:09
everyone was their queen Ursula Blinken and I even Prince
26:14
Charles
26:14
Unknown: at Kings welcome for Ukraine's Prime Minister Denis
26:17
Shamal. as world leaders and foreign ministers line up behind
26:20
yes, we're in this together. We're in this together says the
26:23
head of the EU Commission ocean of underlying together account
26:26
how much and exactly who
26:28
Adam Curry: says there's bullcrap we're in this together
26:31
get taken our money, giving it to contractors, the contractor?
26:37
Speech it, it's crazy. It's every single big agriculture
26:41
company, you can think of all the banks, they are dividing. I
26:45
think at this point, let's just keep the war going until we've
26:48
got all the agreements signed. I mean, it's like, just what do
26:53
you think they're doing? Well, I didn't I didn't realize that
26:56
they were just I mean, now I do. I mean, we're seeing that
26:59
they're fighting over 50 meters of turf.
27:04
John C Dvorak: no agreement on that yet.
27:06
Adam Curry: No, that's unimportant. They don't care
27:08
about that. It's about all the big agricultural land and the
27:10
financing sector and I guess they'll have a tax free haven
27:14
for tech goodbye Ireland's together. We're in
27:17
Unknown: this together, says the head of the EU Commission,
27:19
Ursula von der Leyen put together to work out how much
27:22
and exactly who's paying for the cost of repair and
27:24
reconstruction for a nation still at war. before they
27:28
arrive, they were sent a clear pitch from Ukraine's president
27:31
and his nightly address,
27:33
meets the non green rebuilt Ukraine and transformed Ukraine
27:36
a strengthened Ukraine is a security carrier and a security
27:39
guarantor, Woodlands protection against any form of Russian
27:42
terror and protection against any repetition of Russian
27:45
aggression is after
27:46
the devastation from 483 days of conflict is clear across the
27:51
country. The World Bank says Ukraine's reparation effort
27:54
could cost around $400 billion over the next decade. But that
27:58
estimate was before the counter offensive. Oh meanie mark, and
28:02
the sudden destruction of the dam. And with Russia still
28:06
targeting infrastructure. Analysts say the final bill
28:08
could be over a trillion dollars.
28:12
Adam Curry: Why did they blow up the dam so we can pay people to
28:15
go and rebuild it. Of course, this is the rubble lie strategy.
28:19
The Jackals are out time to build build build
28:21
Unknown: better for the US and UK. It was a joint message for
28:25
countries to dig deep
28:27
ensure, as teams, independent nation demands not only
28:33
providing security, but also for its economy, its democracy, and
28:38
its full integration in Europe.
28:41
key to the success of the pledging conference will be how
28:43
to guarantee that Ukraine is a place to invest in the future.
28:47
The niceties in a country with endemic problems of corruption
28:50
and a possibility of a conflict lasting years. Thereafter, the
28:54
billions already spent arming the defense of a nation leaders
28:57
are looking ahead to peacetime Ukraine to ensure legacy their
29:01
health wasn't for nothing.
29:03
Adam Curry: No, listen to that. Listen to that music. It played
29:06
that music. Yeah, I was the guy in Oregon grinder with a monkey
29:10
on his shoulder outside of the conference. Oh, yeah. If you
29:16
look at all these things, all it's about tax tax tax, you
29:21
know, of course, we want a place where we can, you know, put our
29:24
our cheap workers, the ones we haven't replaced with AI. You
29:29
know, customer help, you know, customer service people, I
29:32
guess. And we want to know, tax, we want to be able to put our
29:37
banking there so that there's no tax on taxes go
29:41
John C Dvorak: in there. Yeah. You know, I think they did it.
29:43
What they did is identified Ukraine, by the way, people have
29:47
to always realize Ukraine is not a hole in the wall. It's a huge
29:51
country, in the entire country of France and German combined, I
29:55
think yeah, it's big. It's huge. It's massive, and it's largely
29:59
agriculture. Cultural and it says Dad to look at and go.
30:03
Because I when I was in Slovenia, I can notice the same
30:06
thing in the wine growing areas like these guys are ripe to be
30:09
plucked, because they like they're old fashioned. They do
30:15
things on small scales and lots of them. Just this, how will
30:20
that get rid of everything they're doing it we'll just move
30:22
our big ag in Europe and we can, you know, feed the world from
30:26
Ukraine.
30:27
Adam Curry: That's what Ukraine was doing your investment
30:31
opportunities and de risking mechanisms to mobilize private
30:35
finance in Ukraine. This, this will not go over in a country
30:40
that's wrought with war. I will point out this session will
30:44
review approaches to attract private capital at scale into
30:48
priority projects and sectors of Ukraine's economy. It will
30:51
showcase investment opportunities in Ukraine now and
30:54
in the future. And because they know the future and the
30:57
availability of support from the Government of Ukraine and
31:00
international partners to de risk projects in the form of
31:04
concessional finance or finance, what does that mean
31:07
concessional? I think that means in that case, we have to look it
31:11
up, concessional. Let me see definition of concession
31:18
concessional I think conceding, conceding something such as a
31:25
point previously claimed that is later conceded. Oh, no. So
31:28
that's like money that the show the rip off, it's clearly a rip
31:32
off
31:33
John C Dvorak: different kinds of rip off that road familiar
31:35
with obviously.
31:38
Adam Curry: We're not going to get any of that. Where was it
31:43
not?
31:45
John C Dvorak: Oh, by the way, in your point about goodbye,
31:48
Ireland. Yeah. Not only that, but no and no offense to the
31:53
Irish. We have a lot of Irish listeners and they're sharp but
31:56
the Ukraine people. They're they're always been into high
32:01
tech. That's perfect for to move tech, tax free tech into Ukraine
32:06
and then exploit their cheap coders. Well, here
32:09
Adam Curry: it is. Tech for transformation, digital
32:13
excellence and strengthening partnerships. This session will
32:16
showcase Ukraine's Ukraine's digital transformation and
32:19
vision for the future, which they already know, the
32:22
resilience of the Ukrainian tech sector and the opportunities for
32:25
international partnerships with this growing sector that you're
32:29
absolutely right. How about this one power of transformation,
32:33
building back better in the energy sector. Building back
32:37
resilient, efficient, decentralized and clean energy
32:40
system will be crucial to Ukraine's economic
32:43
revitalization and long term growth. The Government of
32:46
Ukraine will present the recently adopted energy to 2050
32:49
strategy panelists will discuss how to best mobilize
32:51
international support. That's our tax money, and enable
32:55
private investment grift to support Ukraine's long term
32:58
vision for recovery and transformation. These efforts
33:02
are divvying it all up right under our noses. right under our
33:07
noses has been going on since 2017. At least things take time.
33:14
Well, they do. And they're patient. But they're all They're
33:17
all of them are there including the big bankers, all the prime
33:20
ministers, all the foreign ministers, everybody's there.
33:23
And I love this. If you go to Twitter, or any social media
33:31
site, but let's just take Twitter, I'll do this. I'll do
33:33
it live. And you type in as a citizen arming Ukraine, those
33:38
are the words needed to type in, I will read the first hits I get
33:41
here. As a German citizen, I want to say that arming Ukraine
33:44
is the single best use of taxpayer money for decades. My
33:47
only criticism is that the West aren't sending enough fast
33:50
enough. Next one. As a citizen of Ukraine, I want to say that
33:54
arming Ukraine is the single best use of taxpayer money for
33:57
decades. My only criticism is that the West aren't sending
33:59
enough fast enough. Next one, as a Belgian citizen, I want to say
34:03
that arming Ukraine is the single best use of taxpayer
34:06
money for decades. My only criticism is the West aren't
34:09
sending enough fast enough. As a Czech citizen, I want to I mean,
34:13
it goes on and on and on. As a French citizen, same thing. It's
34:18
all boilerplate, boilerplate, all astroturf, all with Ukraine
34:23
flags and and blue and yellow hearts. In the in the profile as
34:30
a European citizen, I want to say that arming Ukraine is the
34:33
single best use of taxpayer money for decades.
34:36
John C Dvorak: Wow. Yeah, these guys are very good. They need
34:38
AI.
34:41
Adam Curry: And, and some of these have blue checks. So so
34:45
much for your system, Elon, or Elon? Musk. So and then this odd
34:52
and interesting thing that happened. Remember Oryx, that
34:57
general former General Chris All McChrystal was boasting about
35:03
the Dutch Belgian open source crowd sourcing that vaguely that
35:10
we, you know, maybe I should just play it crystal How do I
35:18
spell McChrystal? How come I can't find what how do I spell
35:26
McChrystal?
35:27
John C Dvorak: m as m is C H there's a H in there. MCH MC is
35:34
m i think is MC MC knows EMS wasn't Mecca see see H try that
35:40
Adam Curry: maybe it wasn't even McChrystal EMPs MCC H Now I
35:45
study there. Well, you got to take my word for it. So he was
35:49
saying that, you know, all all about the war in Ukraine, maybe
35:53
if I do Stanley Stanley. I don't know where this report was stand
35:59
lay. And he was saying he was so proud of, of this open source
36:05
reporting. It was kind of like a new belling cat and was called
36:09
Oryx and we went looking for the for the website, and it's
36:12
literally like a horrible domain name that you can't remember.
36:17
Well, they Alright, yeah, so they also have a Twitter
36:19
account. And they were immediately followed. They
36:24
hadn't posted much on the Twitter account since for about
36:26
a couple of years, but now they reactivated it. And here is the
36:29
post Dear all, I would hereby like to inform you that I will
36:33
be ending orcs on October 1. I originally started Oryx blog 10
36:38
years ago to cure my boredom. Little did I know Oryx would
36:41
escalate into the all consuming project that is today. Today.
36:45
All of us work on the articles and lists in our free time. It's
36:48
not our job, we don't get paid. Though I hoped our work would
36:51
one day lead to a job, no such thing occurred, or it's just
36:54
doesn't make me happy anymore. And continuing with it prevents
36:57
me from finding a happier place in life. So now, I can see where
37:03
an open source project will end. But why don't you end it now?
37:07
Why October? Why October 1. Wow.
37:11
John C Dvorak: Great. Yes.
37:13
Adam Curry: So yeah, I'm saying walk. Yeah, something something
37:15
may be happening in October. Maybe Maybe that's where it all
37:19
ends. They will or they order or something or something happens
37:24
and they don't get it or they didn't they should clearly
37:26
didn't get a renewal or someone reneged. Someone didn't pay him.
37:31
That's what they're there for. They're saying we get no money
37:33
for this. The contracts over in October. I think that's what it
37:37
is. Contract. They didn't renew. Yeah. Especially when you hear
37:41
that the Pentagon, again, discovered another one of those
37:45
nasty accounting errors.
37:47
John C Dvorak: Oh, yeah, they just did keep. That's why they
37:50
better audit. The Pentagon. Yeah, six point they can't keep
37:57
track of another 6 billion.
37:59
Adam Curry: It's amazing. I'm so happy for Ukraine comes right in
38:03
time now that Blinken just said oh, we got another bill hanging
38:07
around. He just He is big swing and Dick over there. And in
38:11
London air. I got some money. Let me throw another bill out
38:16
there no problem. So that's what I mean by distraction of the
38:21
week and we're all looking at submarines and we're all looking
38:24
at lab grown chicken meat, brood. brood chicken. The elites
38:30
are literally dividing up the spoils of war already. They know
38:35
they know that on our dime. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And I
38:41
have more about that later. But you seem to have a lot of
38:44
interesting topics too. So I want you to jump in. Give us
38:47
some goods.
38:51
John C Dvorak: It's gone with the flow.
38:52
Adam Curry: Yeah, baby. Yeah. That's why I'm handing over the
38:55
flow to you.
38:55
John C Dvorak: So I'm going with I got a bunch of Biden clips
38:58
again. Sorry about that I used to do to screwball kick talk
39:03
clips.
39:05
Adam Curry: life just gets better.
39:07
John C Dvorak: But I do have a kind of a three parter on
39:11
digital currency. They brought an expert on Oh, and I think
39:16
there's NTD and I thought it would be worth listening to
39:21
these three clips. Because there's they're all They're
39:24
educational or not exciting, but they bring us at least because
39:27
you keep bringing it up.
39:29
Adam Curry: I do. Yes. I do. Keep bringing it up. I thought
39:31
John C Dvorak: we'd at least get some somebody that knew they
39:34
were talking about
39:35
Adam Curry: like me. So thanks.
39:39
John C Dvorak: No, there's either pretty much on the same
39:41
wavelength but he's this guy's a little different. But let's
39:44
start with the with the intro, which is just a short intro to
39:47
the other two clips. The International
39:49
Unknown: Monetary Fund is working on a platform for
39:52
central bank digital currencies. The managing director argues
39:56
that the digital currencies shouldn't be fragmented by
39:58
nation What are the concerns with the IMF pushing for digital
40:02
currency and to the business as Don moss speaks to an expert in
40:06
this field
40:07
Adam Curry: now before you move into your clips, interestingly
40:10
enough, I got the 36 second clip from the IMF director, she was
40:15
not arguing she was stating a fact. And I'll play that now
40:19
just for for color if we
40:21
Unknown: are to be successful. CB DCS could not be fragmented
40:28
national propositions. To have transactions more efficient and
40:34
fairer, we need systems that connect countries. In other
40:38
words, we need interoperability. And for this reason that the IMF
40:43
we are working hard on the concept of a global cbdc
40:48
platform, to trade and to manage risks and my colleague, to be as
40:54
Adrian will talk more about it later.
40:57
Adam Curry: Yeah. So interoperability of the central
41:00
bank, digital currencies. That's what the IMF is talking about.
41:03
Yeah.
41:03
John C Dvorak: My comment is that is this.
41:10
Adam Curry: I love it. I love that you got some some experts
41:13
in on this.
41:15
John C Dvorak: Okay, so let's talk about this. And the stuff
41:18
that we're trying to do with this with this guy they bring in
41:21
the guy may not be any good, but he seems like he sounds like he
41:25
has has a handle on it.
41:28
Unknown: And here with me as Thomas Hogan, senior research
41:31
faculty at the American Institute for Economic Research,
41:34
so the International Monetary Fund wants a platform for its
41:38
central bank digital currencies. Now, before we get into the pros
41:42
and cons, I just want you to explain to me, what does it what
41:45
does it mean, exactly, to have a global cbdc? Platform?
41:49
Yeah, that's right. It's a good question. Because I think this
41:51
has been kind of misreported in some of the articles that I've
41:54
seen online because of the lack of clarity about what we mean by
41:58
platform. So sometimes, when we talk about Central Bank, digital
42:02
currency, we mean, the the platform is the currency itself.
42:06
Like, for example, if the US were to introduce a cbdc, we
42:09
might call that the platform or in Europe, if they're doing one,
42:12
maybe that cbdc is the platform. But that's not really what we
42:16
mean here, we mean, a place where people could trade
42:20
different currencies, different CBDCs. So for example, I think
42:24
we can make a distinction, if I'm an American traveling in
42:26
Europe, and there are some stores that maybe accept US
42:30
dollars, maybe I go into a store and I say, Hey, do you accept
42:34
dollars or euros? That's a question of the currency itself,
42:37
not a question of the platform. If they say they accept only
42:40
euros, then I have to say, Okay, well, do you take a Visa card?
42:44
You know, or can I transfer from my my debit card, where my bank
42:47
is going to switch from dollars into Euros? Or do I personally
42:51
need to go to a bank and trade physical dollars for physical
42:53
euros? You know, that question of how to get from one currency
42:56
into the other is really what they're talking about for the
42:59
platform here. The IMF itself is not going to launch central bank
43:03
digital currency, just help coordinate trade of different
43:05
types of currencies.
43:07
Adam Curry: Yeah, I think I agree with what he's saying.
43:08
That's I didn't think IMF was actually was the clip itself had
43:13
the title. IMF says global currency was like, No, that's
43:18
not what she said. Yeah, my trading platform. Okay. Yeah,
43:21
that makes sense.
43:23
John C Dvorak: Just to clarify it, you know, as it kind of
43:26
clarified, okay, so let's go to part three, we'll be done.
43:30
Unknown: So what concerns comes with is if there is any, yeah,
43:33
so
43:34
I am not concerned about the platform itself. Like I said, I
43:38
don't think the IMF is really going to have a lot of control
43:40
over that. And so they probably, you know, won't have much
43:45
influence other than promoting CBDCs. And that's really the
43:49
thing that I'm a little bit more concerned about is that, you
43:51
know, the IMF is trying to encourage countries to use CBDCs
43:55
in the United States or a bigger country when we might not worry
43:58
about the government misusing that. I mean, we should worry a
44:01
little bit in the United States, but much more of a concern in
44:04
China, where the government is using it to monitor all of their
44:08
citizens. So for a lot of the countries that are trying to get
44:11
better capabilities, the IMF is going to potentially be
44:14
equipping them with ways to monitor their citizens and
44:17
control their citizens. And so I'm a little bit worried about
44:20
that.
44:20
So you said in the US, we should still be a little bit worried
44:24
about cbdc. Can you expand on that?
44:27
Yeah, so the United States is considering doing some kind of
44:31
central bank digital currency, we haven't really committed to
44:33
anything. The US Federal Reserve, the Central Bank of the
44:36
United States is studying how they might implement a central
44:39
bank digital currency. But so far, they they are not planning
44:43
to do one that would be directly offered to us citizens. And so
44:48
that's a really important distinction that almost all the
44:50
countries the plan is to have individual citizens use it just
44:54
like they use regular currency. But in the United States, the
44:57
Federal Reserve has said they actually don't think that they
44:59
have Have the ability legally to do that. All they could legally
45:03
do right now, as far as they're currently saying is offered to
45:06
banks, which would then offer some kind of digital currency to
45:10
the citizens, which is essentially what they do. Now,
45:12
you know, the Fed already has a digital system for for
45:16
coordinating bank payments and having banks deposit money at
45:18
the Fed, making payments with the Fed. And so having a central
45:22
bank, digital currency that's only offered to the banking
45:24
system really wouldn't be much different than we have now. But
45:28
there is some possibility that they might change their policy
45:31
or that Congress might authorize them to offer a central bank
45:35
digital currency directly to the public. And if that happens,
45:38
then that'll be a lot different. And I think we'll need to worry
45:40
about it a little bit more.
45:41
Adam Curry: I agree. I agree that the Federal Reserve doesn't
45:44
have that can't do that legally, what they are and Chris, you
45:47
mentioned in there, well, they will Congress that I guess
45:50
Congress could change that they have the right of
45:53
John C Dvorak: Congress hates us.
45:56
Adam Curry: What the Fed is launching next month is fed now.
46:00
And that's their that's so they will be the direct clearing
46:03
house, it will go initially through bank so you will get
46:07
your fed now account from your bank. But you can pay I can pay
46:11
you directly. And we'll go through the Fed now network and
46:15
the transaction costs will be four cents per transaction no
46:20
matter what size it is, which is it's kind of going to screw up
46:24
other systems. And we'll see. We'll see where that goes. This
46:30
is interesting in the backdrop of the SEC, basically clearing
46:35
out all shit coins, all these man what they call an
46:39
unregistered securities, which I agree with they are and then all
46:43
of a sudden, Blackrock last week of this past week, registering
46:48
for a Bitcoin ETF. And this magical exchange appears backed
46:55
by the Deutsche Bank and other Wall Street banks called edX and
47:01
they're going to be an exchange. So the in the Bitcoin, you know,
47:04
spiked like 10% on all this news. I don't know there's some
47:08
it feels like there's something going on, especially when Black
47:10
Rock enters it. See,
47:13
John C Dvorak: I don't know bad actors.
47:15
Adam Curry: I don't think Black Rock is a good actor, for sure.
47:18
For sure, we'll see. But yeah, you don't need it to be a
47:21
central bank digital currency, if you're doing the transfer and
47:24
the Fed. Now, their own material says this is handy. Because if
47:30
we have another COVID Like event, then we don't have to
47:35
wait for those pesky checks. We'll just put it right into
47:38
your account. So it's the same thing. And now that there's no
47:43
ceiling on the debt we're primed we need another
47:51
John C Dvorak: didn't get pesky checks. They got it straight
47:53
into their account.
47:55
Adam Curry: That's just telling what they say. They're saying
48:00
that's it. That's their marketing is if we ever need to
48:03
send out checks again then you won't have to do that at all.
48:06
You just go straight into your fed now account through your
48:09
bank. So I thought a lot of those checks went I thought a
48:15
lot of the money went through checks. I don't know
48:17
John C Dvorak: anyone who got a check. Hey guys straight into
48:20
her account.
48:21
Adam Curry: She did. Christina got one in Europe, mind you that
48:24
was in she's in Europe, and but the stepdaughters got it got
48:28
checks. They didn't. They didn't.
48:30
John C Dvorak: I don't know anyone who got a check out here.
48:34
Adam Curry: Some trolls are saying they got checks. Some
48:37
Some say they got to I didn't get no check. I get no check.
48:42
Oh, I do Biden because then I want to play some
48:43
counterprogramming to Biden.
48:47
John C Dvorak: Here's Biden in California. This was like a
48:49
couple days ago.
48:51
Unknown: And I've toured many sites across the country.
48:54
They're clearly show climate changes is a genuine x is the
48:58
existential threat to humanity, the existential threat to
49:02
humanity and maybe most important, I've committed that
49:05
by 2020. We will have conserved 30% Of all the lands and waters
49:12
the United States has jurisdiction over and
49:14
simultaneously reduce emissions to blunt climate impacts.
49:18
Adam Curry: Did he say 2020? Yeah.
49:22
John C Dvorak: Poor guy 2020 We're gonna have this these
49:25
changes
49:25
Adam Curry: going back in time. Okay, great. Love it.
49:31
John C Dvorak: Now I got Biden misspelled here in this clip
49:33
this bite does the Biden ramble. It has a bunch of different
49:36
things in it
49:37
Unknown: and a cheer for Missouri for each year for
49:40
Muslim athletes like Kareem Abdul Jabbar I know I'm gonna
49:48
zip mispronouncing Congress Omar word, Congresswoman Omar. There
49:53
you go. God love you. Another Muslim. I'm not supposed to get
49:56
in trouble for saying this project. Beautiful. Congressman,
50:02
where's Where's where's the congressman? There you are.
50:04
Okay, so do you want a job man? I appoint all those federal
50:11
judges but you know, thank you for serving. I'm not kidding.
50:16
You want to come and make a speech? Hush up, boy.
50:22
Adam Curry: Whoa, who do you say that to? Some black guy a black
50:26
guy? No, he did not did not hush up boy. Wow, was this was this
50:33
one of these things where he was talking and called she a
50:38
dictator?
50:40
John C Dvorak: Yeah, I don't have that clip I wish well
50:43
here's
50:43
Adam Curry: I have the quick
50:44
Unknown: tonight a new Flashpoint between the US and
50:46
China after President Biden called China's President Xi a
50:50
dictator at a fundraising event. China blasting the comments as
50:54
absurd and irresponsible.
50:56
Adam Curry: Yeah, call him a dictator. Hmm, not good. Not
51:01
good.
51:03
John C Dvorak: That's what I got here is I don't know if this is
51:06
the same as the California clip. But is Biden in San Francisco.
51:09
Unknown: President Biden land in Silicon Valley? Yes.
51:12
John C Dvorak: This is just a rundown. Okay, President Mazal
51:15
play it.
51:16
Unknown: President Biden landed in Silicon Valley yesterday and
51:19
announced a $600 million national plan for climate
51:23
issues. Today. He met with tech executives and people in the
51:27
industry to discuss artificial intelligence including how to
51:31
seize its opportunity and manage its risks.
51:34
My administration is committed as committed to safeguarding
51:37
Americans rights and safety from protecting privacy to addressing
51:41
bias and disinformation to making sure AI systems are safe
51:46
before they are released. Yeah,
51:48
okay as the President Biden was in San Francisco for his 2024
51:52
presidential campaign, he's also visiting several locations in
51:55
the North Bay, including the cities of Canfield and Larkspur,
51:59
a White House official said Biden summit include experts
52:03
known for being outspoken on the impact of AI on jobs, children,
52:08
bias and prejudice and the risks posed by AI, if it isn't
52:12
properly regulated, and added that quote, US government
52:16
agencies have ramped up their authorities to protect Americans
52:20
from the risks posed by AI, including fraud and
52:23
discrimination,
52:25
as I've said before, where we'll see more technological change in
52:29
the next 10 years than we've seen in the last 50 years. And
52:33
maybe beyond that,
52:35
according to the President's schedule. Biden has a campaign
52:38
reception on Tuesday evening,
52:40
Adam Curry: I find this very interesting, this rhetoric about
52:45
AI and, and the government agencies are ramping up to
52:50
protect Silicon Valley, no doubt. But also, I think this
52:53
Altman character, Sam Altman, I think he's being positioned to
52:57
be the new Elon Musk. He's got a lot of other things go on. He's
53:01
got like, fusion energy projects, and he's doing all
53:05
these other things. You watch this guy is going to be the new,
53:08
the new tech hero, as Elon
53:12
John C Dvorak: he doesn't have the personality for it. I'll
53:13
just say flat out
53:15
Adam Curry: and Elon Musk does. Yeah. No, Altman's Okay. Well,
53:21
it may fail, but I think they're going to try this. Yeah. And you
53:26
know, and
53:28
Unknown: this, this,
53:30
John C Dvorak: like, just like Zuckerberg, he's he's just an
53:32
app personality for anything other than what he's doing.
53:36
Adam Curry: So RF, the number of
53:39
John C Dvorak: people in tech over the years and watching it
53:42
from the get go, I will say there's been so few, I mean, and
53:47
when they crop up, they're just accolades go their way.
53:51
Everything goes their way me I can go back to the days of
53:54
people like Chuck Peddle. Oh, was Chuck Peddle Chuck pills ago
53:59
designed to 6502 chip, the original chip used in the Apple
54:02
two computer and he was he was a hell of a personality. You had
54:07
Steve Jobs to some extent Wozniak has a personality
54:10
Adam Curry: bill. Gates had a personality whether you like it
54:13
or not.
54:15
John C Dvorak: Bill Gates does have a personality. And Ballmer
54:19
has a personality even though it would nobody liked his
54:21
personality.
54:22
Adam Curry: All developers loved him.
54:27
John C Dvorak: And Felipe Khan was a suit. Yeah, remember? I
54:31
mean, he's gonna build kind of a couple of empires out of
54:35
nothing. And he was in the public eye but these guys could
54:40
speak they could do public speaking and they could do all
54:43
these things. They weren't just you know, reticent. No, jet. I
54:46
want to talk.
54:47
Adam Curry: Now. We'll see Sam Altman talks. He's he goes on
54:51
all the podcasts and, and he went and did his thing before
54:54
Congress. He was it was interesting. It was full of
54:56
crap, but I know he's just all I'm seeing is a lot of
55:00
businesses that have government involvement and lying. Okay?
55:03
Just keep your eye on them. So RFK Jr did a speech in New
55:07
Hampshire. And I want to play a couple clips from it, because
55:11
he's taking a totally different approach to running for
55:15
president. And of course, he is blocked entirely whenever anyone
55:20
who's blocked by the mainstream is always interesting to us.
55:24
After the the whole Rogan challenge he, missy, you wonder
55:30
what is the headline? I had Los Angeles Times Robert F. Kennedy
55:35
and the lies of the anti vaxxers know. So that's kind of how
55:39
they're positioning
55:40
John C Dvorak: or if can make a huge mistake.
55:43
Adam Curry: Well, if he could get the you know what Trump did,
55:47
right? Is he because of all the stuff he did? They gave him all
55:51
this attention, then I don't think the mainstream will do
55:53
that for RFK. But RFK has already said, Jr. has already
55:57
said, no, no, this election will be one on podcast which I
56:01
John C Dvorak: I'm of the opinion that in 2016 Even though
56:06
their podcast and that I don't think the media scene was that
56:09
different? I kind of agree with him. I think it to me because of
56:14
after Trump and and a few years of Biden, the mainstream media
56:19
has, people are just looking askance at it a lot more than
56:23
they did in 2016. And 2016. They did to it a little bit, but not
56:27
like this, that people just don't believe these. Yes. Media
56:32
is in a downward spiral.
56:35
Adam Curry: Yeah. And with almost no ratings and be no
56:37
one's watching it. So I think the if, if if true, then his
56:41
breakthrough was probably Rogan, although that also brings up all
56:44
these, you know, he's incredible. He's an anti Vaxxer,
56:47
even his family hates him, oh, pay attention. So he does what I
56:53
think is a pretty important speech. And for a couple of
56:56
reasons. One, his voice is much better. I think we are
57:00
determined years ago, when he starts talking a lot than his
57:04
affliction gets better. And he's also invoking John F. Kennedy,
57:10
and a lot and of the days almost like that, not the Camelot part,
57:16
but the peace part. And so he had this, it was in look at it
57:20
in the show notes about 45 minutes. And he does this entire
57:25
spiel about the wages of war. And he says, what's really
57:29
happening is if you have war outside your home all the time,
57:34
then that is going to bring war inside your home and literally
57:38
inside your home. And that was that was pretty
57:42
John C Dvorak: interesting. I will make a quick comment here
57:44
on this. Generally speaking, except, you know, during these
57:50
moments of huge amounts of propaganda American the American
57:54
public is anti war. Yes. And that's how Obama got elected.
57:59
The Iraqi war was going on and Obama ran in 20 Whatever 2008 I
58:05
guess Yeah. On a peace platform, you can take it to the bank.
58:10
Yeah. If he was gonna get us out of the Iraqi war or he was gonna
58:15
get on him obey he was gonna do this was gonna do as a total
58:20
peace platform, and the Democrats really are the
58:24
peaceniks, generally speaking, it's only recently that we've
58:27
had this kind of crossover. And then they still have the
58:31
peacenik bug. The fact that the Democrats are the biggest war
58:35
mongers I've ever seen, of late, is kind of a surprise. And I
58:41
think Kennedy can bring him back to the norm or mount normalcy.
58:45
Adam Curry: Well, there's not going to be any debates. So
58:47
there'll be no exposure. Who knows how corrupt the actual
58:51
voting systems are? There's a lot of disbelief and those
58:54
across the board, I mean, if you look at any poll, right or left
58:58
John C Dvorak: driving and Gavin Newsom is also the wildcard
59:02
here,
59:02
Adam Curry: though, and we'll leave him there but this Kennedy
59:04
cat, he's got a rap that is if if the Kennedy cat if people
59:09
hear him, Hey, man, you know, he's from like, the Kennedy cat
59:13
era, man, you know what I'm saying, bro? They get a dig,
59:18
man, I dig the Kennedy cap. So he so the whole setup is this
59:22
wages of war. And he talks about, you know, if you're, if
59:25
you're warring with, you know, if you think everyone's evil,
59:28
and you're gonna have that insight, you're gonna bring that
59:30
home, right into your actual very home, you will have this
59:34
kind of division that so I'll play a clip that kind of is the
59:36
end of that. schpeel. And the question now is, are we willing
59:40
to do anything like that today? Or are we remained stuck in a
59:45
self righteous story in which America is categorically good?
59:49
At our poll, opponents are irredeemably evil. If we remain
59:53
stuck there, so will every other nation it's not only America
59:57
that's falling and falling into this employee. Stick good guy,
1:00:00
bad guy thinking. That's the example we've set for everybody
1:00:05
in the world, a wonder it's been replicated everywhere between
1:00:08
Israel and Iran between India and Pakistan, between Shia and
1:00:13
Sunni between Jew and Arab, between Hindus and Muslims left
1:00:17
and right, between pro life and pro choice between facts and
1:00:22
anti facts, this tribalistic us versus them thinking is tearing
1:00:28
us apart. And it's a rousing round of applause. I think was
1:00:37
at a school, the university so people like whatever I heard,
1:00:42
there was like people, yeah, wait a minute that you've seen
1:00:44
some good there. So now he invokes and gives us a bit of a
1:00:48
history lesson about his uncle, he talked more about his uncle
1:00:52
John F. Kennedy than his dad, Robert F. Kennedy. And about JFK
1:00:57
being an anti war president. And it's tearing apart our country
1:01:03
and it's tearing apart the world. So this, these are the
1:01:08
wages of war. When we take the first step toward peace, we will
1:01:14
become once again a true world leader, a moral leader, a moral
1:01:18
authority. And our example, it doesn't take much. It's just the
1:01:22
first step. And people will start looking at America
1:01:25
differently the way they did when my uncle was president. My
1:01:29
uncle, I pointed this out.
1:01:32
Unknown: In my announcement speech, my uncle was so
1:01:34
determined. He told us that one of his best friends Brent, and
1:01:38
Bradley said to him, What do you want on your as your epithet on
1:01:42
your gravestone and he said, he kept the peace, he said, and
1:01:46
Bradley asked him to explain that he said, the primary job of
1:01:51
an American president is to keep the country out of war, as what
1:01:55
he said and during
1:01:59
Adam Curry: not happened recently.
1:02:02
Unknown: During his time in the White House, he was surrounded
1:02:06
by military talk hawks and his intelligence apparatus, his
1:02:09
military brass, wanted it who were constantly exhorting him to
1:02:15
go to war in Laos, in Berlin, in Cuba, in Vietnam, and he'd never
1:02:22
sent a single combat troop abroad during his term in
1:02:25
office. He ultimately wanted to send 250,000 combat troops to
1:02:31
Vietnam, he ended up sending 16,000 advisors who are not
1:02:34
under the rules of engagement allowed to participate in
1:02:37
combat. That's fewer people, fewer men. And he sent James
1:02:42
Meredith one black man until Ole Miss University of Mississippi
1:02:45
in Jackson. Okay, now I'd like to say to that advisors, we know
1:02:50
what that is. That's bullcrap. military advisors are they're
1:02:54
saying, All right, now you point it there. Okay. And you pull the
1:02:59
trigger here. So, the JFK got duped, but I guess he was an
1:03:04
anti war president. And I'll give Trump that truth to Trump
1:03:09
didn't didn't get us into war. He was going to pull us out
1:03:13
didn't but he at least, you know, he went and talked to Kim
1:03:16
Jong Hoon. He went and talked to Putin. Crazy. He's insane. He
1:03:21
must be in cahoots with him to now RFK Putin. Now RFK gives us
1:03:27
a history and a timeline. That is important to remember and is
1:03:32
probably the reason why Ron Paul says you know, that's when when
1:03:37
we'd lost the country was with the killing of JFK. And this is
1:03:41
this goes back to one of our favorite clips, he won't he'll
1:03:44
he'll talk about the clip, but also about an important
1:03:46
presidential order a month before he died in October of
1:03:51
1963. He heard that a that a Greenbrae had died in Vietnam,
1:03:58
and he asked one of his aides to give him a total casualty list.
1:04:02
And the aid came back and the casualty list had 75 Americans
1:04:07
on it who had died in Vietnam and he said that's too much.
1:04:11
We're not going to have a single more American died at a high
1:04:16
national security order to 63 that ordered every true every US
1:04:20
US service person home from Vietnam was the first 1000
1:04:24
Leaving the next month and beginning of November and and
1:04:30
that he died a month later. And a week after his death. That
1:04:35
order was remanded and President Johnson ended up spending. I
1:04:39
think 250,000 troops by President Johnson President
1:04:43
Johnson ended up sending 250,000 troops. Ultimately
1:04:47
560,000 56,000 never came home including my cousin George
1:04:52
Skakel who died in the Tet Offensive and we killed a
1:04:56
million Vietnamese and You know, we had, we've we've been going
1:05:04
off on this path with the military industrial complex,
1:05:08
which President Eisenhower warned about a week before him
1:05:11
or three days before my uncle took off, it's in the best
1:05:14
speech that he ever gave in one of the most important moment in
1:05:17
history where he warned America. If we did not take great pains
1:05:24
to avoid the millet, the emerging Military Industrial
1:05:27
Complex would devour our democracy would destroy American
1:05:30
values from within. And my uncle knew that he knew that speech
1:05:33
and he spent the three years is 1000 days in office, fighting
1:05:38
against the rise the military industrial complex after his
1:05:41
death, we went down that path that Eisenhower predicted and
1:05:45
that's where we are today. And it's time now to reverse that.
1:05:48
It's time.
1:05:51
Adam Curry: Somebody likes it. So I'm listening. I'm listening
1:05:56
to this guy. And he goes into all of this stuff is like the
1:06:01
military industrial complex. And it's like listening to 15 years
1:06:05
of no agenda clips. It really is into one. And yeah, it rolled
1:06:10
into one and, and pretty concise. And he does it well.
1:06:15
And he talks about how we promised and he says Baker
1:06:18
promise we all promised not one inch towards the east with NATO.
1:06:22
And he says no, we didn't do one inch we did 1000 miles. And
1:06:25
we've completely surrounded Russia. And you know, he talks
1:06:28
about another one of his uncle speeches where he said, you
1:06:32
know, hey, you know, we didn't win World War Two, the Russians
1:06:36
did, the Russians defeated the Germans or you're weaken them
1:06:39
enough. So we could go into Berlin, which is true, which is
1:06:42
historical fact. And, and then he rolls out. And it's funny
1:06:47
because his his head is so in those days that he instead of
1:06:50
Boris Johnson, he says, Boris Yeltsin.
1:06:56
Unknown: He doesn't he doesn't correct himself. But he calls
1:06:59
out something else we knew we now have such a distorted and
1:07:02
desperate view of the other side. We won't even speak to
1:07:06
them to see conflict as inevitable as become the
1:07:09
cornerstone of US foreign policy. Two or three decades
1:07:14
ago, it was the clash of civilization between Islam and
1:07:17
the West. Today, those legions of think tanks that are funded
1:07:21
by the defense industry exhort us to prepare for the inevitable
1:07:25
war with China. A war is inevitable only if we make it
1:07:30
inevitable.
1:07:38
The war in Ukraine could have been avoided even as late now we
1:07:42
now know as spring of 2022 when US officials sent Boris Yeltsin
1:07:49
to have to scuttle peace talks between Ukraine and Russia a
1:07:53
peace agreement they had already signed. And not only that Russia
1:07:57
had already begun removing its troops from the key area, we now
1:08:00
know this war was this war was not inevitable. It was the
1:08:06
creation of a relentless mentality of foreign domination.
1:08:10
There you go. She said, yell, somebody meant Boris Johnson,
1:08:13
because that's true. Boris Johnson
1:08:16
John C Dvorak: brought that document out, slashed into front
1:08:20
of the cameras showed the initials and said this, this was
1:08:23
a peace agreement. And it was never it was the Russians were
1:08:28
implementing it. But then it turns out that we go to the
1:08:32
Ukrainians and forget that.
1:08:36
Adam Curry: So and so his strategy he has I don't think
1:08:39
either way.
1:08:40
John C Dvorak: I'm sorry. But by the way, that is scandalous that
1:08:44
the mainstream does not harp on
1:08:46
Adam Curry: that, because they're all part of it. This is
1:08:48
way down that Pantelis is scandalous, scandalous.
1:08:52
Scandalous, I tell you what so so his strategy, he doesn't seem
1:09:00
to have a ground game he doesn't if you go to the RFK or Kennedy
1:09:04
20 four.com website, there's no bumper stickers, there's no yard
1:09:08
signs and some T shirts. No agenda shop has more than his
1:09:13
shop. So I guess his strategies podcast which I know they may it
1:09:19
may work he's going on a lot of them he's going everywhere he
1:09:22
can i We could probably get him one I have one I have RFK Jr who
1:09:25
grill him. Grill well grill him we want to deal
1:09:32
John C Dvorak: with the defense industries and Big Pharma
1:09:38
combined against him. It's very hard to mention the intelligence
1:09:42
community very which doesn't have to do anything in this
1:09:44
case. DEA has got a prayer they're just pounding with the
1:09:49
with the with the overriding propaganda is an act die Vax nut
1:09:54
ball that shouldn't be taken seriously. And the fact that And
1:10:00
then the public will see that he's not taken seriously by the
1:10:02
mainstream media, which is the third element of this trifecta
1:10:06
of, of evil doers does is is the fact that he's got 25% Now in
1:10:15
terms of people that say they might want to vote for him is a
1:10:18
miracle. If it goes higher than that, I'm going to be stunned.
1:10:23
Adam Curry: He says he has 25% That's according to
1:10:27
John C Dvorak: one source. Yeah. 25% That's the Democrats are the
1:10:30
Democrats. Okay?
1:10:31
Adam Curry: Well, I'm hearing a lot of Trump errs going, hey,
1:10:34
yeah, we need Trump and Kennedy ticket that'll do it. I'm like
1:10:38
dream on. That'll never never, never. But I have to say this
1:10:44
anti war message might connect if enough people are killed. I
1:10:50
mean, you're right it's there's still 30% of the world at least
1:10:53
the United States for sure who are walking around with you have
1:10:56
masks on in the car, there's so mind control. But when you go in
1:11:00
and I was watching
1:11:01
John C Dvorak: some TV, local TV thing, and they had they were
1:11:04
interviewing a couple that owned a restaurant and so ever no
1:11:07
one's wearing a mask except the restaurant owners. And there are
1:11:10
a couple it's like they're married and they're wearing
1:11:13
masks sitting next to each other.
1:11:17
Adam Curry: No, he did have a an appearance on Newsmax with Greta
1:11:22
Van Susteren, my how the mighty have fallen.
1:11:26
John C Dvorak: And this is just, this is almost a carnival, the
1:11:28
why
1:11:28
Adam Curry: and this is about bio weapons.
1:11:31
Unknown: But what what I worry about is is a WMD like a virus
1:11:35
like a gain of function something? Do you worry of
1:11:38
Greta, you ignorant sloth about that? Because I see that as sort
1:11:42
of the next the next big fight because, you know, those viruses
1:11:45
don't see any borders. And they're relatively cheap to do
1:11:49
this gain of function. I mean, it's just that's what I worry
1:11:52
about more than the big hardware.
1:11:56
Yeah, you're exactly right. And we know that the Chinese are
1:12:01
developing ethnic bio weapons or bio weapons that are designed to
1:12:04
attack people of certain racial types. And the and we're doing
1:12:09
the same thing. We've been collecting Chinese DNA. We've
1:12:13
been collecting Russian DNA specifically for that it is arms
1:12:17
race is a character to Hashmi. You know, in 1969, we had
1:12:23
developed by then nucular equivalency with bio weapons, so
1:12:27
we could eliminate the same numbers of people with bio
1:12:30
weapons, I think 29 cents a death, they calculated the
1:12:34
Defense Department and the CIA calculated at that time.
1:12:39
President Nixon did the most extraordinary thing. He went to
1:12:42
Fort Dietrich, and he said we are unilaterally ending the bio
1:12:47
weapons arms race, we are giving up all of our bio weapons, we're
1:12:50
going to destroy them. We're going to disable the capacity at
1:12:53
Fort Dietrich, and we're not going to make them anymore. And
1:12:57
three years later, almost all the nations on the earth signed
1:13:01
a charter stopping bio weapons production and and the problem
1:13:05
was, the CIA continued to do secret bio weapons production
1:13:10
our country, the Russians found out about that and rejigged
1:13:13
their program. And then after 2001, we passed the Patriot Act,
1:13:19
which reopened the arms race, which basically cancelled out
1:13:23
Nixon's 1979 agreement treaty and launched a new bio weapons
1:13:28
arms race, and everybody else in the world is doing it. And the
1:13:31
impacts as you point out, Greta are horrific. Yeah. And then
1:13:35
there we are with COVID, whether it was Wuhan lime for Dietrich,
1:13:41
and wherever it came from, everyone's pointing the finger
1:13:43
at trios where they do it. And then of course, we know now that
1:13:48
there were quite a few us admitted by Vicki Nuland, US Bio
1:13:54
Labs in Ukraine. Yeah, that's the kicker and check it out. So
1:13:58
the Russian defense ministry gave a briefing on US military
1:14:03
and biological activity and they have they have receipts they
1:14:06
showed documents acquired when they when they went into all the
1:14:10
Bio Labs and you know, scooped
1:14:12
John C Dvorak: up they overran them scooped up the document
1:14:14
read that fast
1:14:15
Adam Curry: documents acquired during the special military
1:14:17
operation proved the Walter Reed Army Institute of Research
1:14:21
connection to the US Defense Threat Reduction Agency and its
1:14:24
key contractor. The meta biota company, admitted by Oda was the
1:14:31
company that Hunter Biden played a role in funding for these Bio
1:14:35
Labs in Ukraine. I mean, this stinks to high hell, all of it.
1:14:41
John C Dvorak: Well, let's stop there for a second and consider
1:14:45
something I'm like, constantly consider, which is that the
1:14:50
whole Hunter Biden episode, the craziness, and then there's
1:14:55
recent slap on the wrist and all the rest of it and all the stuff
1:14:59
that You know, Biden supposedly did, it just sounds so much like
1:15:04
that, sonny, that guy that used to be the gangster in Boston
1:15:08
that was working for the FBI
1:15:10
Adam Curry: with Whitey Bolger Whitey Bolger.
1:15:14
John C Dvorak: And it's just as though they've given these guys
1:15:17
have been working for the FBI CIA who knows who, and they're
1:15:22
covered. That's why the DOJ, nothing is ever coming of any of
1:15:25
this. There's got to be a reason that nobody is doing anything
1:15:30
about the comer investigation where they're finding all this
1:15:34
money flowing into the Biden family and Biden living in these
1:15:37
mansions. And it's just, there's, there's absolutely
1:15:42
zipping done. There has to be a reason is not because Biden is a
1:15:46
nice guy.
1:15:47
Adam Curry: No, no. I think Hunter Biden is the key. If they
1:15:51
unravel that guy, they unravel a lot. He's covered. Yeah, well,
1:15:56
John C Dvorak: let's listen to happening.
1:15:57
Adam Curry: Let's listen to the pixie girl on the Central
1:15:59
Intelligence Broadcast Systems.
1:16:00
Unknown: As part of the Hunter Biden plea agreement. Three
1:16:03
charges were filed in a Delaware court to misdemeanor counts of
1:16:06
willful failure to pay federal income tax on annual earnings in
1:16:10
excess of $1.5 million. A third count possession of a handgun by
1:16:15
a drug user would be dismissed if Biden remains drug free and
1:16:19
commits no additional crimes during a specified time period.
1:16:23
A source familiar with the term said Biden's legal team expects
1:16:27
probation not jail time, though final approval rests with the
1:16:30
judge.
1:16:31
I think the judge is going to do what's fair. And I think what's
1:16:34
fair is, you know, my client gets on with his life.
1:16:39
David Weiss, the US Attorney in Delaware who led the probe was
1:16:43
appointed by then President Trump and left in place by the
1:16:46
Biden administration. In a statement why said the
1:16:49
investigation is ongoing. But Hunter Biden's team sees it
1:16:52
differently. My understanding is that we're done. Traveling in
1:16:56
California President Biden was asked about the news
1:16:59
and we're proud of our son.
1:17:02
Adam Curry: That's the court of the century.
1:17:06
Unknown: The news I'm very proud of my son.
1:17:09
Hunter Biden spoke about the federal investigation on CBS
1:17:12
Sunday Morning.
1:17:13
I'm cooperating completely and I'm absolutely certain 100%
1:17:18
certain of the investigation that I will be cleared 100
1:17:24
frickin
1:17:25
percent.
1:17:26
Democrats hailed the agreement as a sign of the Justice
1:17:29
Department's independence Republicans cried foul. Former
1:17:32
President Donald Trump arraigned on criminal charges last week,
1:17:36
said Hunter Biden was given a mere traffic ticket.
1:17:39
Do you think this is another example of a two tiered system
1:17:41
of justice in America?
1:17:42
Republican Congressman James Comer leads the House Oversight
1:17:45
Committee, which is investigate by
1:17:47
Adam Curry: the way I love how they do this. So you know, they
1:17:49
pull in Biden quote, I'm very proud of my son. And President
1:17:52
Trump said and all they do is the question they don't do the
1:17:55
answer. Just the question,
1:17:56
Unknown: Said Hunter Biden was given a mere traffic ticket.
1:17:59
You think this is another example of a two tiered system
1:18:01
of justice in America Republican content, even
1:18:04
Adam Curry: his answer? This isn't this is incredible
1:18:07
reporting. Trump said this, but we only hear that the question
1:18:10
Unknown: will trump the range on criminal
1:18:12
John C Dvorak: where they're structuring it? Yeah, it's
1:18:14
Unknown: good charges last week, said Hunter Biden was given a
1:18:17
mere traffic ticket.
1:18:18
You think this is another example of a two tiered system
1:18:21
of justice in America.
1:18:22
Republican Congressman James Comer leads the House Oversight
1:18:25
Committee, which is investigating the Biden family's
1:18:28
foreign business dealings, a probe disputed by the White
1:18:31
House. Well, you call the US attorney and Delaware to
1:18:36
testify. I would
1:18:37
expect the US attorney to testify in front of the House of
1:18:40
Representatives very soon. He needs to explain whether or not
1:18:45
his investigation is concluded.
1:18:47
Gene Rossi, a former Justice Department official who handled
1:18:50
tax cases told CBS News that failure to pay tax on more than
1:18:54
$3 million, even though now repaid is a serious violation.
1:18:58
If this were
1:18:59
hunter Smith, instead of Hunter Biden. I think you would have a
1:19:05
very much more aggressive prosecution.
1:19:09
Adam Curry: So this is something I think I feel like the country
1:19:12
is kind of locking into it's like, hey, wait a minute, this
1:19:15
two tiered justice system, you know, even herridge can't get
1:19:19
away from it. NBC had a
1:19:21
Unknown: shorter report. Tonight after a five year investigation,
1:19:24
the president's son Hunter Biden has reached a plea deal with
1:19:27
federal prosecutors to plead guilty to two misdemeanor tax
1:19:30
charges and likely avoid prison time. Prosecutors say Biden did
1:19:35
not pay more than $100,000 in taxes on over $1.5 million in
1:19:40
income in both 2017 and 2018. And two sources tell NBC News,
1:19:46
the prosecutor will recommend probation while also agreeing
1:19:49
not to prosecute Hunter Biden for illegally possessing a
1:19:52
firearm. Even though Biden knew he was barred from doing so
1:19:56
because he was using drugs. Biden faced a maximum of two
1:20:00
Well of months behind bars for each tax charge and up to 10
1:20:03
years for owning the handgun.
1:20:05
I think what's fair is, you know, my client gets on with his
1:20:10
life,
1:20:10
the former president tonight accusing the Biden Justice
1:20:13
Department of giving Hunter Biden quote, a mirror traffic
1:20:16
ticket, our system is broken. top Republicans argue it's
1:20:20
evidence of a double standard.
1:20:22
Adam Curry: So what they've done, Republicans and Democrats,
1:20:26
unit party people, they've moved the conversation away from the
1:20:31
true crimes of the Biden crime family, and all this all the Bio
1:20:36
Labs, and I mean, they are involved. And I think what
1:20:39
happened, you know, it's a sophisticated operation. Ukraine
1:20:42
has been used for all kinds of things for decades and decades.
1:20:45
You know, even the, the, the the DNC server went to Ukraine, I
1:20:51
mean, all this does with Ukraine was just it's where you go for
1:20:54
all kinds of criminal activity. And the problem is, the Biden
1:20:57
crime family are just Grifters. And they screwed up. It's like,
1:21:02
oh, well, we got these guys. They die. We can't have them
1:21:05
blow it for us. Is this is this the Bonanza over here? We're
1:21:08
divvying up this country. We can't have that. So let's talk
1:21:12
about dual standards. Yeah. And then what are the Republicans
1:21:16
do? Or whatever they haul in? And they haul in Durham? You
1:21:23
know, oh, let's talk about that. And let's talk about how I have
1:21:26
a,
1:21:27
John C Dvorak: I have an alternative clip of this, of the
1:21:30
hunter thing. And I don't say please, still does the hunter
1:21:33
rundown and NTD. But I still think that they're protected is
1:21:38
everything that we're witnessing is just an example. And I'd like
1:21:41
to know, by the way, how you can make $1.5 million and only pay
1:21:45
$100,000 in taxes. How does that work?
1:21:50
Adam Curry: Well, maybe he wrote off all the hookers and blow. I
1:21:53
mean, he could say that, like,
1:21:55
John C Dvorak: you know how you make $1.5 million. He and He did
1:21:57
it for two years ago back who knows how many years but those
1:22:00
two years that are under investigation, he must have done
1:22:03
it more in just two years now. Make a $1.5 million paid. Don't
1:22:08
pay don't even file hell with it. Yeah. And then they they
1:22:12
bust you and you had to pay 100,000? Yeah. Does anyone do
1:22:16
the math on this?
1:22:17
Adam Curry: No. Why would we do that? No one's paying tax except
1:22:20
us. This should
1:22:21
John C Dvorak: be 38% of the 1.5 which is at least at half. You
1:22:25
know, it's almost three or 300 500 or $500,000? Not
1:22:30
100,000? No, but
1:22:32
Adam Curry: you know, again, it was all you know, and they
1:22:34
usually had penalties. Where's the penalties? No, no, no, no,
1:22:37
no, no, no, no. See, that's where instead of smelling the
1:22:41
rat people go to tear justice system. And that's what gets
1:22:45
everybody off track. And look, I'm still on Twitter. I see it
1:22:49
is true to Joseph says do man. Okay,
1:22:53
Unknown: President Biden's son Hunter plans to plead guilty to
1:22:56
two tax crimes, and has struck a deal with federal prosecutors to
1:23:00
resolve a felony gun charge. And today's Iris Tao brings us more
1:23:04
from the White House
1:23:05
and federal prosecutors charged Hunter Biden was in failure to
1:23:09
pay income tax and felony gun charge of illegally possessing a
1:23:14
firearm while knowing that he was addicted to using drugs.
1:23:18
According to court documents, Hunter Biden is expected to
1:23:21
enter a plea deal basically pleading guilty to two
1:23:25
misdemeanor and tax crimes. But when it comes to the felony gun
1:23:28
charge, he's expected to enter what he calls a diversion
1:23:32
program through which he could walk away with no jail time, or
1:23:36
even a felony record. If he stays sober for two years and
1:23:40
gives us the right to ever own a gun again,
1:23:42
if you are the president's son.
1:23:45
He will house speaker Kevin McCarthy today criticize what he
1:23:48
calls a two tiered justice system. And he vows to continue
1:23:52
do peace investigation into the Biden family and this business
1:23:56
dealings.
1:23:57
DOJ should not be able to withhold any information now.
1:24:01
But a top Democrat on the House Oversight Panel today called the
1:24:05
charges against Hunter Biden a reflection of the DoD
1:24:09
independence, and that says former President Trump who's was
1:24:12
indicted with 37 federal charges and calls Hunter Biden's charges
1:24:17
in New York traffic ticket. And today President Biden said
1:24:21
I'm very proud of my son. A White House
1:24:23
spokesperson says today that the President and the First Lady
1:24:26
love their son and support him as he continues to rebuild his
1:24:30
life while adding we have no further comment. Meanwhile,
1:24:33
although Hunter Biden's or Tony says today's announcement marks
1:24:36
the end to a five year investigation into Hunter Biden.
1:24:40
The DoD later said on Tuesday that its investigation into
1:24:44
Hunter Biden is still ongoing.
1:24:47
Adam Curry: Yeah, well that is just saying that to keep their
1:24:50
power Whoa, you know, we might do some it is all and and also
1:24:57
this incessant reading of the law. Action is not for a year
1:25:01
and a half and elbow. Brewer was going to be president is going
1:25:03
to be who gives a crap it's going to be president. What's
1:25:06
happening the President is not the king, the emperor of America
1:25:10
he has limited power see Trump now he what he did he did what
1:25:16
he did he's Supreme Court federal judges tried to do
1:25:21
everything else was his downfall talking to Putin talking to to
1:25:25
North Korea talking to the Saudis all that was you know,
1:25:28
the military industrial complex dia whatever it is, it's all
1:25:32
taken people down it's just not that important you know, your
1:25:37
mail your your governor your your city council your school
1:25:40
board that's where you got to focus on these in America at
1:25:43
least we're a federated system of states you still have power
1:25:47
people just sucked into this. Whoa this guy that guy Red Team
1:25:51
Blue exactly what what RFK Jr said so then we have the new law
1:25:57
let's just go back and let's as we say in the old country, drag
1:26:00
some old cows out of the canal. And let's let our cool out slow
1:26:07
that in Dutch and our cool out slow Tyler is dragging Oh cow
1:26:12
out of the canal.
1:26:15
Unknown: The Dutchman great one
1:26:17
Adam Curry: off cow out of the canal.
1:26:20
Unknown: Here's NBC News report and on Capitol Hill, the former
1:26:23
special counsel investigating the FBIs Russia probe against
1:26:27
then candidate Donald Trump telling lawmakers his findings
1:26:31
included sobering missteps by the FBI. Jared Hake. Now with
1:26:35
that story.
1:26:36
Special Counsel John Durham facing a five hour grilling,
1:26:39
grilling, he's explosive conclusion that the FBI acted
1:26:43
improperly in its opening of the 2016 Trump Russia probe. We
1:26:47
found troubling violations of law and policy Mr. Durham
1:26:51
arguing that the available evidence did not support opening
1:26:54
the full investigation known as crossfire hurricane,
1:26:57
the FBI opened up crossfire hurricane without speaking to
1:27:00
the people who provided the initial information. Is that
1:27:03
true? That's correct. Was there adequate predication for the FBI
1:27:07
to open crossfire hurricane as a full investigation
1:27:12
on July 31. And my view based on our investigation that was not a
1:27:15
legitimate basis to openness, full investigation
1:27:19
and Durham saying he found anti Trump sentiment among the FBI
1:27:22
brass who launched the investigation. There are some
1:27:26
individuals who clearly expressed a personal bias. The
1:27:30
Mueller report ultimately found no conspiracy between the Trump
1:27:33
campaign and Russia but resulted in 34 People criminally charged
1:27:38
Democrats noting Durham's four year investigation produced only
1:27:41
three criminal cases, including to acquittals and accusing the
1:27:45
bill Barr appointee of running political interference for
1:27:48
former President Trump.
1:27:51
Adam Curry: So what comes out of all this as far as I can tell, I
1:27:54
don't know if you have any clips. But the we have a when
1:27:57
everybody we are censoring. We are censoring Adam Schiff of
1:28:01
California. And it's like, oh, yes, he's been censured. And if
1:28:09
you look it up. In the context of the United States House of
1:28:12
Representatives censure refers to an official reprimand formal
1:28:16
condemnation of a member for misconduct and inappropriate
1:28:19
behavior. Nothing else happens?
1:28:23
John C Dvorak: No, of course not. This goes on every so often
1:28:25
it's supposed to be a review.
1:28:27
Adam Curry: Yes, it's all a rebuke slap on the wrist. It we
1:28:31
disapprove of how you handled everything. Adam Schiff.
1:28:36
John C Dvorak: Good to have one Dirham clip from NTD.
1:28:38
Adam Curry: But yeah, let's play the drum and TD Here we go.
1:28:42
Unknown: So Chairman Mike Turner and ranking Democrat member Jim
1:28:45
Himes came and spoke to reporters immediately following
1:28:48
that meeting with special counsel, John Durham. And it's
1:28:51
interesting because they had pretty much a bipartisan
1:28:53
consensus of wanting to address the mistakes that the FBI made,
1:28:57
in that in launching that investigation against former
1:29:00
President Donald Trump and expressing a wish to find
1:29:03
solutions moving forward. Let's look at what they had to say.
1:29:07
It was interesting to hear from Mr. Durham, that he has concerns
1:29:11
that there are reforms that need to go into place and that there
1:29:14
are still issues that need to be addressed. And he was very
1:29:17
forthcoming and sharing with us and I think that we were able to
1:29:19
get some information that would be very helpful for us and the
1:29:22
work that we have to do on both FISA renewal FISA reforms and
1:29:26
also reform issues with the FBI, and appreciate my ranking member
1:29:31
Jim
1:29:31
Ward essentially says that the FBI made serious mistakes when
1:29:35
launching that crossfire hurricane investigation into
1:29:38
former President Donald Trump because they lacked sufficient
1:29:41
evidence to even open the investigation to begin with.
1:29:45
Instead, the information that the FBI did have was based on
1:29:48
individual sources who were politically biased and those
1:29:51
facts went unchecked, even when the FBI did come across
1:29:55
information that was contrary to that information coming from
1:29:59
those indices. jewel sources they still dismissed it and
1:30:01
continue to launch that investigation. Now, of course,
1:30:05
we've heard from many Republicans. They pointed to
1:30:07
this Durham report saying that it's proof that the FBI has used
1:30:11
their power to target political opponents, specifically former
1:30:14
President Donald Trump. Of course, this is a similar
1:30:17
argument that we heard just last week during Trump's second
1:30:20
arraignment. Now, the FBI has responded acknowledging that
1:30:24
they did make mistakes with that crossfire hurricane
1:30:27
investigation, but have said they have since taken steps to
1:30:31
prevent mistakes like this from happening in the future and have
1:30:34
also said that the FBI officials involved in the crossfire
1:30:37
hurricane investigation have left the FBI either by retiring
1:30:41
or being terminated or having resigned. Oh, yeah, nice and
1:30:45
Adam Curry: tidy. All right. Okay. So
1:30:47
John C Dvorak: now I want to read something from a Democrat.
1:30:51
This is a newsletter that comes out on Saturday called a letter
1:30:54
from an American and I always like I subscribe to this because
1:30:58
one of our
1:30:58
Adam Curry: why wouldn't use it because you need to have good
1:31:01
information on all sides. Of course,
1:31:03
John C Dvorak: one of our producers was pitching and one
1:31:05
of his letters about how his wife won't come around to listen
1:31:09
to no agenda. And, and he cited this newsletter, she reads it
1:31:14
religiously and believes every bit of it. And so I'm just going
1:31:18
to read just a bit of it discussing the Durham report and
1:31:22
the testimony at Durham hat. And just to show you, where the
1:31:26
typical hardcore Democrat is concerning the Russian
1:31:31
investigation because it keeps cropping up. But Democrats on
1:31:36
the committee pressed him on the facts of the Russian
1:31:38
investigation itself. And he seemingly somewhat reluctantly
1:31:43
agreed under oath in response to question by Representative Adam
1:31:47
Schiff, that the facts of the Muller report and the Senate
1:31:50
Intelligence Committee report were correct. Russia interfered
1:31:55
in the 2016 election for the benefit of Trump. Trump's
1:32:01
campaign welcomed the help and shared information and secret
1:32:05
meetings with Russian operatives, and the FBI was
1:32:09
justified in investigating that interference. Now, this is not
1:32:15
what anyone else is hearing. But this is what this the core of
1:32:19
the Democrat Party believes sounds
1:32:21
Adam Curry: like it was written by Nicole Wallace.
1:32:23
John C Dvorak: It's a lie. Yeah.
1:32:26
Adam Curry: That's not at all what I mean, we know a couple of
1:32:28
things from the Muller report. We read it all we deconstructed
1:32:32
it, it was disappointing for people that you know, they
1:32:34
couldn't hang Trump on it. We also learned that the no agenda
1:32:38
show is the best podcast in universe that was also in the
1:32:41
Muller report. It was in there it was in there. Yeah, that's
1:32:45
why. So then
1:32:46
John C Dvorak: it's a lie, but they just spew it out just like
1:32:49
this. Yeah. And it's just and it goes on with this. It's more
1:32:54
about how Russia and Trump is they're connected. And they're
1:32:59
going to somebody's point on this on one of the talk shows, I
1:33:02
can't remember which one it was dot bungee G knows, damn radio,
1:33:06
Sham bungee. And he says that there's no way that you're not
1:33:09
going to revisit this because it works so well to just associate
1:33:13
whoever the Republican whoever a Republican is running that with
1:33:17
Russian interference. And they stick with it. Underlying
1:33:21
everything we're talking about and everything and all the
1:33:23
ghosts and all the realities. What I just read underlies
1:33:28
everything and it stays there.
1:33:30
Adam Curry: And it's been that way for for decades and decades.
1:33:33
It goes all the way back Russia, communist Russia, Cuba, on and
1:33:38
on and on. It's all that's always been the Boogeyman. So
1:33:43
there was one moment in this in this hearing, where I forget who
1:33:49
it was skies, just like, man, if you're shilling for Trump for
1:33:53
Trump, you're gonna lose everything. Your life is over.
1:33:55
You better quit it.
1:33:56
Unknown: Yeah, good. John. We've now entered the fifth hour of
1:33:59
this hearing where we continue to hear questions from members
1:34:03
to the Special Counsel, John Durham and what's been a very
1:34:06
partisan display up until now while Republicans have chosen to
1:34:09
focus on the contents of his report. Democrats have tried to
1:34:15
discredit John Durham's findings and even attack his character,
1:34:19
you have a good reputation. You had a good reputation. That's
1:34:22
why the two Democrats supported you. But the longer you hold on
1:34:26
to Mr. Baugh and this report that Mr. Barr gave you a special
1:34:30
counsel, your reputation will be damaged as everybody's
1:34:34
reputation who gets involved with Donald Trump his damage,
1:34:37
he's damaged goods, there's no good dealing with him because
1:34:40
you will end up on the bottom of a pyre.
1:34:42
My concern by my reputation is with the people who I respect my
1:34:46
family and my Lord. Lordy, and I'm perfectly comfortable with
1:34:50
my reputation with them, sir.
1:34:52
Adam Curry: So your reputation will be gone. You'll be nothing
1:34:55
in this town. That's what they're all afraid I work that's
1:34:59
what they're all Write up. I do have to play this. This clip
1:35:04
from Brett bears interview with President Trump. Brett bear was
1:35:08
out for out for blood. And I think he drew some and I and he
1:35:12
embarrassed the former president many times with what he was
1:35:16
saying. And he just I have to say he just ran circles around
1:35:20
Trump and Trump wasn't expecting it. I don't know that he still
1:35:23
thinks that Fox News was was on his side. I
1:35:26
John C Dvorak: believe that's true, because he said it can
1:35:28
number of times that he knows that Fox News This is
1:35:31
Adam Curry: well he wasn't prepared for it. Unless this
1:35:35
this was I mean, bear did a lot of interesting things with boy.
1:35:39
John C Dvorak: Go ahead to discuss this little aspect. I
1:35:43
think Trump's still thinks he's the smartest guy in the room and
1:35:46
he can be tricked.
1:35:50
Adam Curry: Oh, yeah. So he can be tricked. Anyway, listen to
1:35:54
this. Your Vice
1:35:54
Unknown: President Mike Pence is running against you. Your
1:35:56
ambassador to the United Nations Nikki Haley. She's running
1:35:59
against you, your former Secretary of State Mike Pompeo
1:36:01
said he's not supporting you. You mentioned National Security
1:36:04
Adviser John Bolton. He's not supporting you either. You
1:36:07
mentioned Attorney General Bill Barr says you shouldn't be
1:36:10
president again. I called you to constantly narcissist and
1:36:13
troubled man you recently called and borrow a gutless pig. Your
1:36:18
second defensive posture is not supporting you called your
1:36:21
irresponsible. This week. You and your White House called your
1:36:24
White House Chief of Staff John Kelly, weak and ineffective and
1:36:28
born with a very small brain. You called your acting White
1:36:31
House Chief of Staff Mick Mulvaney a born loser. You
1:36:34
called your first Secretary of State Rex Tillerson dumb as a
1:36:36
rock and your first Defense Secretary James Mattis, the
1:36:39
world's most overrated general, you called your White House
1:36:42
press secretary Kayleigh Canady milquetoast and multiple times
1:36:45
you've referred to your transportation secretary Elaine
1:36:47
Chao as Mitch McConnell's China loving wife.
1:36:52
I will tell you that something happens when people leave, they
1:36:57
can like me very much. I have this woman named Alyssa Farah.
1:37:00
She said the greatest things wrong after she left. He's the
1:37:03
greatest president we've ever had. He was unbelievable.
1:37:05
Unbelievable. Then the view offered her a contract. But
1:37:10
obviously, only if she changed your views. And all of a sudden
1:37:13
she can say negative things. Money gets offered to people and
1:37:16
some people change.
1:37:19
Adam Curry: This is not the only the answer. Now, he says it.
1:37:23
Yeah. Well, she was barraged yes he was but he was like I'm I'm
1:37:27
great at firing people. He's pretty good at firing people.
1:37:29
I'm not good at hiring people. And by the way, we're gonna say
1:37:33
that No, and he should he should repent for Operation warp speed.
1:37:37
Not maybe for doing it because that wasn't necessarily wrong.
1:37:39
But he should say, you know, that didn't work out too. Well,
1:37:42
that stuff is not good. This
1:37:45
John C Dvorak: pant for not pardoning Julian Assange.
1:37:48
Adam Curry: That would be a big one for us. Yes, for sure. It
1:37:51
John C Dvorak: also probably should have also Snowden should
1:37:53
have been on the list. But
1:37:54
Adam Curry: also, it feels to me like he's, he's thinking
1:37:58
simplistically about America has grown up. Thanks to him.
1:38:02
Actually. We have grown up. There's a lot of people who,
1:38:06
Paul, the septic guy called me yesterday and you know, had some
1:38:09
question about his generator. And he's like, you know, man,
1:38:13
like Buell right there, Ronnie D, he's no good. He's Wall
1:38:16
Street guy. But when I Trump behind, I don't know what to do,
1:38:20
that people are confused because now they start to understand the
1:38:23
issues. They're seeing what's going on. Now Trump is right
1:38:27
about what he predicted about the economy, etc. But that was
1:38:30
easy to predict because of all the money that was printed. Then
1:38:33
he was there. You know, he saw it, he actually brought the
1:38:36
Federal Reserve closer into the treasury than it ever was
1:38:39
before. And it's just he if you could get a sentence out and
1:38:45
explain things calmly and not always being just, you know, I
1:38:52
create a more consistent Rumi's
1:38:53
John C Dvorak: invitation to me. Yeah.
1:38:56
Adam Curry: Really, I picked it up from her. Yeah. And so if RFK
1:39:01
Jr, who's I think people could be a single, that could be a
1:39:05
single voting issue. The only single voting issue we have in
1:39:09
the United States right now is abortion and maybe trans rights,
1:39:14
but everybody could be it against war. Everybody could be
1:39:18
against it and Trump can do this he has a reason or he has a
1:39:21
record with this now in Kennedy Jr. He
1:39:25
John C Dvorak: has a right he has a positive record very good
1:39:28
right issues war being one of them. Yeah, but instead he gets
1:39:32
down into eating or he can't seem to bring himself up to the
1:39:36
level of like ever Kennedy and be philosophical in a way that's
1:39:40
meaningful. I mean, now there is a an example I have a son a lot
1:39:45
it was on the last clip list. It was last show okay of him
1:39:48
discussing the education system calmly and and I don't know if
1:39:52
it's on this clip list or not Trump
1:39:54
Adam Curry: but you have to go over Trump on education played
1:39:57
it play this.
1:39:57
John C Dvorak: This is a policy discussion that is great never
1:40:02
got played anywhere. I've there's other examples of stuff
1:40:07
like this and it just is not what they want from Trump.
1:40:10
Unknown: For many years tuition costs and colleges and
1:40:13
universities have been exploding, and I mean absolutely
1:40:17
exploding. While academics have been obsessed with
1:40:21
indoctrinating America's youth. The time has come to reclaim our
1:40:26
once great educational institutions from the radical
1:40:29
left and we will do that our secret weapon will be the
1:40:33
college accreditation system. It's called accreditation for a
1:40:38
reason. The accreditors are supposed to ensure that schools
1:40:42
are not ripping off students and taxpayers but they have failed
1:40:46
totally. When I returned to the White House, I will fire the
1:40:49
radical left to creditors that have allowed our colleges to
1:40:53
become dominated by Marxist Maniacs and lunatics. We will
1:40:59
then accept applications for new accreditors who will impose real
1:41:03
standards on colleges once again and once and for all. These
1:41:08
standards will include defending the American tradition and
1:41:11
Western civilization, protecting free speech eliminating wasteful
1:41:16
administrative positions that drive up costs incredibly,
1:41:20
removing all boxes Diversity, Equity and Inclusion bureaucrats
1:41:25
offering options for accelerated at low cost degrees, providing
1:41:30
meaningful job placement and Career Services and implementing
1:41:35
college entrance and exit exams to prove that students are
1:41:38
actually learning and getting their money's worth.
1:41:42
Furthermore, I will direct the Department of Justice to pursue
1:41:45
federal civil rights cases against schools that continue to
1:41:49
engage in racial discrimination. And schools that persist and
1:41:54
explicit unlawful discrimination under the guise of equity will
1:41:58
not only have their endowment stacks, but through budget
1:42:02
reconciliation, I will advance a measure to have them fined up to
1:42:08
the entire amount of their endowment. A portion of the C's
1:42:12
funds will then be used as restitution for victims of these
1:42:15
illegal and unjust policies, policies that hurt our country.
1:42:20
so badly. Colleges have gotten hundreds of billions of dollars
1:42:24
from hard working taxpayers. And now we are going to get this
1:42:28
anti American insanity out of our institutions once and for
1:42:33
all. We are going to have real education in America. Thank you.
1:42:39
Adam Curry: Great policy statement. Couple problems. One,
1:42:42
he's dividing left as Democrats, you know, you know, that if
1:42:48
you're not going to win the whole country with that same
1:42:50
with with DeSantis, with his anti woke stuff, you can I'm not
1:42:54
against what he's saying. Of course, of course, the schools
1:42:56
have become discriminatory, but the President shouldn't even be
1:43:00
involved in the school in Fredericksburg, that should be
1:43:04
the Fredericksburg people. And to a large degree, they have
1:43:07
that right and they are actually taking that you know, they
1:43:10
they're making use of that. I think Americans and maybe people
1:43:15
all over the world are tired of the government people at the top
1:43:18
saying we're going to do this we're gonna fix this we're gonna
1:43:20
fix that. And they all hang on for dear life, and nothing
1:43:23
happens because the President is not the king. Now and then he
1:43:27
hires a who would Pritzker Pritzker do cheval deuces from
1:43:34
the douche family. I haven't forgotten that. It just doesn't
1:43:39
make any I like the Marxist Maniacs and lunatics that are
1:43:41
like that's clearly a problem. Now
1:43:46
John C Dvorak: well, you can't do much on the local level with
1:43:48
schools like Harvard it's not really
1:43:51
Adam Curry: I understand the government I understand that but
1:43:53
just schools in general this this problem is not well, I
1:43:58
guess it is because what the who's who's funding the schools?
1:44:02
It's it's the big endowment. That's where all that comes
1:44:06
from. You can't stop that.
1:44:07
John C Dvorak: No, no, it's the high tuitions the endowments are
1:44:10
accumulating. They're not nobody in funded. The Italian Downey
1:44:14
endowment
1:44:15
Adam Curry: determined the curriculum. They say we'll give
1:44:18
you this endowment but you've got to do this curriculum.
1:44:20
That's the way I understand it. But I'm just talking about the
1:44:24
lower level just the kids who were being indoctrinated told
1:44:27
their boys and girls when they're not.
1:44:29
John C Dvorak: Well, which brings me to my top clips here
1:44:32
we talk talk to talk.
1:44:37
Adam Curry: Before we go there, kind of just say one thing
1:44:38
someone gave me a theory that I thought was really interesting
1:44:40
just relating to the the Biden crime family. What if 10% for
1:44:46
the big guy? What if the big guy is Obama? And we're just miss
1:44:52
misinterpreting that to be Joe Biden.
1:44:57
John C Dvorak: Well, here's the reason I don't think that's the
1:44:59
case. So I liked it. Because because Obama's a newbie came in
1:45:05
out of the out of the blue is a good coordinator from some
1:45:10
charities in Chicago. Biden goes back 50 years and they're one of
1:45:15
the most corrupt states of the country,
1:45:18
Adam Curry: Delaware. Good point. Okay. I'm just throwing
1:45:21
it out there. Just that we got to keep it. There's a thread
1:45:24
somewhere there's
1:45:25
John C Dvorak: maybe that that during the Obama administration
1:45:28
Biden was running it for all we know could be a fact that let me
1:45:33
get off track and go away from tick tock for a minute and bring
1:45:35
it up. I have this this thesis about Biden always being a gun
1:45:42
day, you know, the, the chin, the guy around the gentle AC
1:45:45
Family walked around the
1:45:47
Adam Curry: village and dance peeing his pants in
1:45:48
John C Dvorak: his underwear, mumbling to himself, made me
1:45:52
listen to this clip. This is Brooks on the Biden
1:45:56
Adam Curry: books. On the Biden
1:45:57
Unknown: point, President Biden told reporters today that he has
1:46:00
not talked to the Attorney General about this case and will
1:46:02
not talk to him about it.
1:46:03
And that's not really appropriate. I would say even
1:46:06
longer term though I do think Biden is still under exposed. I
1:46:09
think his staff is still over protective of him. And he's much
1:46:13
smarter in public than a lot of people think, and private. And
1:46:18
so I do think they need to let him get out more because it's
1:46:21
just not good for the presidency, for him to be that
1:46:23
much in the shadow of Donald Trump. And that's been even
1:46:26
without the indictment.
1:46:27
Couldn't he tell them that? Could he tell his staff that if
1:46:29
he felt that way? It's been said to me that the President
1:46:32
believes that when you empower people to do their jobs, you
1:46:34
listen to their advice, but if he agreed with you, couldn't you
1:46:37
tell them hey, I
1:46:38
don't need to be so protected.
1:46:39
You would think so. And I will say from what I hear inside the
1:46:42
White House, he's not a doddering old grandpa. He's like
1:46:45
could be a very tough mean guy, a very harsh boss sometimes. So
1:46:48
he couldn't say that but you know, he might he might be
1:46:51
trusted and maybe he wants to be as quiet and frankly as as
1:46:56
closed in as he has been.
1:46:59
Adam Curry: You've this has been your theory previously about the
1:47:02
agenda of AC What is it the the old mafia guy?
1:47:06
John C Dvorak: Yeah, gigante. I like it.
1:47:10
Adam Curry: i To me, it feels like there's a thread somewhere
1:47:14
and it was someone pulls this one thread it all comes.
1:47:17
Everything comes undone and I think the only way If he truly
1:47:21
is the mob boss, and he's really he is the big guy. He has to
1:47:26
call the hit on Hunter. Then out of the blue and I'll be waiting
1:47:34
with your theory someone's got to do it. Hunters a liability.
1:47:38
John C Dvorak: Liability. I'm not done. There's no denying
1:47:40
that you know,
1:47:41
Adam Curry: and and if I love my son, Mm hmm. So no one wants to
1:47:46
kill Hunter. I'm just theorizing here.
1:47:50
John C Dvorak: No, I'm it. It's a mob thing. It's a mob thing
1:47:54
would happen
1:47:55
Adam Curry: and and beef is truly the Abraham here of the
1:47:58
mob family. He's gonna have to sacrifice his kid. He's gonna
1:48:03
have to do it. If he does that, then okay, well, by the way,
1:48:07
then it's all over. Then America's done for
1:48:10
John C Dvorak: well. We're gonna go back to play to talk thing
1:48:14
again. We're reset tock tock, tick tock
1:48:19
Adam Curry: where we're resetting everybody.
1:48:21
John C Dvorak: Now, before we again, I'm gonna do a site. I'm
1:48:26
going to do before we play any of these top tips. I want to
1:48:29
play something that Mimi got for me. Okay. This is no you have to
1:48:34
remember this is millions and millions of kids used to love
1:48:37
Mr. Rogers.
1:48:38
Adam Curry: It's a beautiful day in the neighborhood. Of course,
1:48:41
I used to watch Mr. Rogers.
1:48:42
John C Dvorak: And you know, it has to miss it. It had to have
1:48:45
some influence. I want to play this is a song from one of his
1:48:51
albums and like any obvious I never watched him mostly. I
1:48:54
don't know. I missed him. Yeah, I couldn't put up with him.
1:49:00
Adam Curry: You were a rambling teenager. That's why
1:49:02
John C Dvorak: I'm telling you. So. But listen to this Mr.
1:49:05
Rogers selling
1:49:06
Unknown: some are fancy on the outside. Some are fancy on the
1:49:12
inside. Everybody's fancy. Everybody's fine. Your body's
1:49:19
fancy. And so is my boys are boys from the beginning. When
1:49:25
you're born a boy baby, you grow up to be a bigger boy. And then
1:49:30
a man. Girls are girls right from the start. When you're born
1:49:35
a girl baby. You grow up to be a bigger girl, and then a woman.
1:49:40
Everybody's fancy. Everybody's fine. Your body's fancy. And so
1:49:47
is my girls grow up to be the mommy. boys grow up to be the
1:49:54
daddy. Everybody's fancy. Everybody's fun. If your body's
1:50:02
fancy, and so is my
1:50:05
Adam Curry: heresy I tell you heresy
1:50:09
John C Dvorak: bruising a gig K cruisin for a cancellation
1:50:15
Unknown: he's dead
1:50:18
John C Dvorak: he's dead so let's go with
1:50:21
Adam Curry: Thank you Mimi for throwing us off track is going
1:50:24
back to some crazy people on Tik Tok
1:50:26
John C Dvorak: go back to the net balls and boy are they in
1:50:30
this case now here's a noodle boy guy he's a I don't know what
1:50:35
he's non binary just I don't know what his pronouns are her
1:50:37
pronouns or whatever she has but nose ring right through the you
1:50:42
know the middle one and they're like the cow and big giant
1:50:46
earrings and wild makeup and here he goes is the Asheville
1:50:51
noodle boy
1:50:52
Unknown: up until yesterday, I worked at blend pretzels I asked
1:50:55
the general manager to stand up for trans rights and against our
1:50:59
genocide. And he laughed in my face the owner. His father is a
1:51:04
Nazi his son is the general manager. I've spent nearly a
1:51:08
year expending so much emotional labor trying to make sure that
1:51:13
I'm safe including having three hour conversations with the
1:51:18
general manager about why rate isn't funny. He has sat there
1:51:21
and watched the owner be transphobic to me, he also
1:51:25
watched and supported while he paid me less than everybody else
1:51:29
if you are in the Nashville area or Buncombe County, do not
1:51:33
support blunt pretzels if you support trans people.
1:51:36
Adam Curry: Yeah, yeah, well, this is clearly mentally
1:51:39
disturbed, momentarily mentally disturbed
1:51:44
John C Dvorak: or permanently numb. Here's a here's a woman
1:51:47
this is the armpit girl has a short clip she just went on it's
1:51:53
just to show that she has armpit hairy armpits to get hairy
1:51:57
armpits is a big deal to her. But you have to note that she
1:52:01
has a completely she bought perfectly shaved bald head has
1:52:06
been shaved the shaved bald head and the armpits and she's been
1:52:13
here's the clip.
1:52:14
Unknown: So I have this thing called a little quirk if you
1:52:17
will. I have hair in my armpit. I have it there for a few
1:52:20
reasons. One lazy to fuck the patriarchy and fury. Your
1:52:26
response to them? tells me everything I need to know about
1:52:30
you. Yeah,
1:52:33
John C Dvorak: this is the thing is a bit lazy if she sewed keep
1:52:38
her head bald. Yeah. But she's lazy. She says yeah, that's
1:52:43
that's bullcrap. I
1:52:44
Adam Curry: mean, this is. I have different I have multiple
1:52:48
thoughts about that. I remember moving to Europe in the 70s and
1:52:51
my mom being horrified. These women have hairy pits and hairy
1:52:56
legs.
1:52:58
Unknown: Got airy lay eggs.
1:53:01
Adam Curry: So that's that doesn't bother me. I mean, you
1:53:04
know,
1:53:05
John C Dvorak: if you saw this wish he'd been no,
1:53:07
Adam Curry: I liked it. You're sitting at home watching this
1:53:09
and going and getting all worked up over it. I kind of like that
1:53:12
or just like that. Like I'm gonna make a clip out of this.
1:53:16
John C Dvorak: And luckily, by the way, by the way, I should
1:53:19
mention that now because I've been doing these I'm now I don't
1:53:22
have to do any work. Because they are being sent to me. It's
1:53:26
just magic.
1:53:27
Adam Curry: Yeah. And you're like, Oh, right. I can't. I've
1:53:30
got all the clips I need. I've got them all.
1:53:32
John C Dvorak: So here's the queer author this this is a long
1:53:35
clip. I'm gonna skip this. Oh,
1:53:37
Adam Curry: thank you long. I don't know if I can handle a
1:53:38
long clip.
1:53:39
John C Dvorak: Let's listen to the white supremacy clip.
1:53:41
Unknown: This commenter says I'm perfectly fine with fat people.
1:53:46
But WTF do you mean, Aryan that phobia and racism are two
1:53:52
completely separate things. But they're not all bigotry, and our
1:53:58
culture is rooted in white supremacy. White supremacy so
1:54:03
that's my ideal and adding deviation from that ideal is
1:54:07
discriminated against. Obviously this goes for a race, but it
1:54:11
also includes the person's size and our culture, the skinny
1:54:16
people are upheld as the ideal. There's also racism behind why
1:54:21
skinniness is considered the ideal because as white women we
1:54:26
want to set ourselves apart from black women who stereotypically
1:54:30
have curvier bodies. All bodies are beautiful, but white
1:54:35
supremacy needs to hold up a singular ideal in order to
1:54:40
maintain control.
1:54:42
Adam Curry: Yeah, this is just this is the this is the
1:54:44
education system. The and the media and tick tock probably and
1:54:51
you know this white supremacy, whereas throughout history in
1:54:56
the Reubens period when the thick women were found beautiful
1:55:00
in the black community thick girls are are more desired than
1:55:04
thin girls. It changes it changes over time. And we
1:55:07
fluctuate this flux. Thank you. It's
1:55:09
John C Dvorak: a fashion. Yes,
1:55:11
Adam Curry: it's called a fashion. Now of course, there's
1:55:12
some health issues that come in at a certain point. But you
1:55:15
know, that's why we have ozempic, which we'll get to
1:55:18
after we think some people but before the since you led me down
1:55:22
this path, I do need to discuss a couple of
1:55:25
John C Dvorak: them before I get to I get one, at least play one
1:55:27
push back clip. And this is the pride push ban in Massachusetts.
1:55:33
And even though you could tell that to the reporters on the
1:55:36
news channel, were horrified. Horrified by this woman who's
1:55:40
making nothing but sense
1:55:42
Unknown: these displays of intolerance and homophobia are
1:55:45
unacceptable if this type of intolerant rhetoric starts in
1:55:48
the home,
1:55:48
parents angry at townhall over intolerance at Marshall Simon's
1:55:53
middle school, kids were asked to wear rainbow clothes in honor
1:55:56
of pride Spirit Day, but some organized a counter protest
1:56:00
wearing red, white and blue or black. The principal sharing a
1:56:03
statement to families that pride posters were ripped down
1:56:07
stickers ripped up some students chanted USA are my pronouns and
1:56:11
students showing pride were intimidated. It was
1:56:14
an unruly disruption. In fact, that was organized ahead of time
1:56:19
while some parents were upset. Others say it was overblown.
1:56:22
Some of the kids threw the stickers on the ground. But you
1:56:25
know, I can only speak for my daughter she just she didn't
1:56:27
want to wear that to school. It's not that she wanted to hurt
1:56:30
anybody's feelings.
1:56:30
She says her daughter felt coerced to participate in the
1:56:34
Pride event and was offended by some of the messages like this
1:56:37
quote from Tennessee Williams
1:56:39
human heart cannot be straight it is curves and winds and my
1:56:42
daughter just kind of said you know mom, that's that's
1:56:45
offensive to me who I am straight.
1:56:47
But even parents like her opposed to the Pride Month
1:56:50
celebration, say the ripping of posters was wrong.
1:56:53
I think destructing any property is wrong. I think you know, that
1:56:58
I just think that was wrong. parents
1:56:59
and community groups now calling for the town and school board to
1:57:02
act and support diversity, equity and inclusion, the
1:57:06
incident sparking discussion at home on both sides.
1:57:09
My thing that I teach my kids is just be kind. And I wish the
1:57:14
schools would just kind of pump the brakes on what they're
1:57:16
showing Greg Stokes,
1:57:18
the issue of pride in schools is very controversial. I understand
1:57:22
that I think we need to start at a place of commonality.
1:57:25
Now the principal says that no one was forced to participate in
1:57:29
the Pride Day event, but now parents on both sides want
1:57:32
dialogue LIVE IN BURLINGTON Sean shy about WC VB newsletter.
1:57:36
Adam Curry: Oh, it was nice to hear people want dialogue
1:57:37
because this is more of the what Kennedy calls the wages of war,
1:57:40
you know, oh, we got to go to war. We gotta go. I got into war
1:57:43
against them. Yeah, a couple of things I want to read before I
1:57:48
play two clips here. As so it's unraveling a little bit. The the
1:57:56
transitioning of children is starting to unravel. We're
1:58:00
seeing clips coming out of the UK when I didn't I didn't get
1:58:04
those clips, probably seen as like another one is outrageous
1:58:08
things on social media. stuff. Yeah. The kid says, hey, you
1:58:12
know, you can't identify as a cat. There's only two genders.
1:58:15
The kid gets kicked out. The teacher comes in and says, you
1:58:18
know, this is this is what the authority says the authority
1:58:21
says, then you can be anything you want. And you should 13 year
1:58:24
olds. Yeah. So this is the problem with government in your
1:58:28
school, is your government shouldn't be telling you,
1:58:31
whether it's whether you agree with it or not. The government
1:58:33
should be telling you how to how your children should be learning
1:58:36
or what they should be learning but that's up to up to you if
1:58:39
you want that. In 2016 there was a big MTV reality show about
1:58:47
this kid called Milo and Milo was oh it was born a girl but
1:58:52
was definitely going to be a boy and it was you know, just went
1:58:55
all through the transitioning and now Milo is back after what
1:58:59
is it? Eight nine years. distraught. I can never have
1:59:05
kids again. I regret getting hormone injections. my ovaries
1:59:10
are dead. It's horrible, horrible things. Elliott page
1:59:15
used to be Ellen Page came out with his interview and just I
1:59:20
mean it's so it's so horrific. This child was abused in
1:59:25
Hollywood sexually abused and then you know therapist said all
1:59:28
you clearly a boy will fix that right up and anyone with the
1:59:32
sound mind who reads this? Can see like No, no, no, there's
1:59:36
something else going on with this person. There's a
1:59:39
whistleblower now that exposes the hospital for performing sex
1:59:42
chain surgeries on minors. I mean, it's all coming out.
1:59:45
People are not all in lockstep on this, no matter what the
1:59:48
media thinks, no matter what politicians think. And even if
1:59:54
the movie theaters think that they can ban me to here's the
1:59:57
clip.
1:59:58
Unknown: Now the film's producer say that AMC theaters abruptly
2:00:01
canceled all screenings of the documentary caving to the
2:00:03
demands of a trans rights group, AMC Theaters declining to
2:00:07
comment on the record about their decision to pull the
2:00:10
release.
2:00:11
Adam Curry: Now, what's interesting about this is this
2:00:13
movie has just been rebranded to be put into into theaters. It's
2:00:18
called No way back the reality of gender affirming care. It is
2:00:23
the exact same movie as affirmation, generation
2:00:26
affirmation, which you can get on YouTube. So you know,
2:00:30
everyone's kind of in it for their own reasons, I guess. But
2:00:33
then this happened in Arkansas, as you know, these horrible
2:00:38
genocidal anti trans laws are being put in by Republicans who
2:00:43
are Nazis. Now judges are overturning them. And Amy
2:00:48
Goodman, I have to say unfortunate morning, Amy Goodman
2:00:53
Clifton bound report that was usable, usable for US
2:00:59
Unknown: federal judges struck down Arkansas first in the
2:01:01
nation ban on gender affirming care for transgender youth.
2:01:05
Judge James moody Jr. ruled the ban to be unconstitutional
2:01:09
because it discriminates against transgender people and violates
2:01:12
the rights of doctors. In his decision. Moody wrote, quote,
2:01:15
rather than protecting children or safeguarding methods of
2:01:18
medical ethics, the evidence showed the prohibited medical
2:01:22
care improves the mental health and well being of patients. And
2:01:26
that by prohibiting it, the state undermine the interests
2:01:29
that claims to be advancing. One quote, one of the plaintiffs who
2:01:33
sued our console for the ban was a 17 year old trans student
2:01:37
named Dylan Brandt, who responded to the ruling by
2:01:39
saying, quote, transgender kids across the country are having
2:01:44
their own futures threatened by laws like this one, and it's up
2:01:47
to all of us to speak out, fight back and give them hope.
2:01:51
Unquote.
2:01:52
Adam Curry: So I looked at the judge's opinion. And the judge's
2:01:57
opinion literally says, the science is in that children who
2:02:03
who get the affirm the gender affirming care they deserve.
2:02:09
Dude who will not commit suicide? And so we can you can
2:02:13
boil down this whole debate to the truth of the matter. To what
2:02:18
does the science really say? And then the the abstraction of that
2:02:23
is would you rather have a dead daughter or living son or a dead
2:02:29
son or living daughter but it's usually a dead daughter living
2:02:32
song because it's a percentage the girls so that is the SIOP
2:02:37
because the actual science is only three years old. That's a
2:02:42
joke.
2:02:44
John C Dvorak: The other thing is interesting, as they
2:02:46
obviously this, this case, dependent on the whatever the
2:02:49
expert witness was,
2:02:51
Adam Curry: I can tell you it is the Arkansas chapter of American
2:02:54
Academy of Pediatrics, the Arkansas Academy of Pediatrics,
2:02:58
the American College of OB GYN, the American Academy of Child,
2:03:01
Adolescent psychologists, the American Academy of Child and
2:03:04
Adolescent Psychiatry, the Arkansas Psychological
2:03:07
Association, and other scientific and medical
2:03:09
organizations who all recognize the effectiveness and safety of
2:03:13
gender affirming medical care. The studies are only Max three
2:03:18
years old. That's who they have as their expert witnesses. So
2:03:24
fine. Maybe you should look at Europe who've had who have
2:03:28
literally come out and said, there is no there are no long
2:03:32
term studies that show this and in fact that it's 19% of people
2:03:37
transition, wind up suicidal. So it's it's phony baloney science,
2:03:43
it's just like the jab will you know it's 80% effective 70 6050
2:03:48
You won't get horribly ill you won't be in the hospital get a
2:03:51
booster. It's because people believe a
2:03:55
John C Dvorak: medical system that allows this to develop in
2:03:59
this way is corrupted.
2:04:01
Adam Curry: Yes. And personally, I think look, if your kids are
2:04:06
minor, and you're all in on this and you want to abuse your kid
2:04:11
How about it? If you're all in and you're there every single
2:04:14
step of the way? Well, then you're you're just then that'll
2:04:18
be up to you and your your parent and whatever else. Your
2:04:21
kids
2:04:24
John C Dvorak: some of these kids go on a murder spree
2:04:26
Adam Curry: well, but you can't you can't have schools doing
2:04:28
this any of this schools now who are doing this on the sly
2:04:31
Midwest, teachers trade tips on subversively, in quietly
2:04:34
transitioning kids without telling parents, that's the
2:04:37
stuff that should be outlawed. But if you really think you're a
2:04:40
good parent out, I'd have at it, but then be ready for the
2:04:44
consequences. So you know, I can understand why these laws are
2:04:48
seen as unconstitutional. If the if there's parental consent,
2:04:51
what are you going to do, but they should at least go out and
2:04:55
get some good information. And the SIOP of would you rather
2:04:58
I've seen it happen so many times Do you want a dead
2:05:01
daughter or a living son? And and it Oh, they'll he'll be
2:05:05
he'll commit suicide if you don't give this to your
2:05:07
daughter. That is just factually not true. And so there's no
2:05:13
other debate really. There's just no other debate. That's all
2:05:17
that it has to be. And so what this has gone is you know, now
2:05:21
we're down to the book bannings which is also something that
2:05:25
only my favorite people in Utah, the you know, that 90 parent
2:05:30
went in and said, and they got the Bible taken out of the
2:05:32
school because it has horrible horrific things in it, which is
2:05:37
true. That's an interesting move they made and it just it got
2:05:43
overturned and the Bible is back. But yeah, I mean, so it's
2:05:49
history like is slick is very tricky. But the bottom line is
2:05:53
the science is just not in on this stuff. That's all and
2:05:58
that's what these movies show. That's the problem. That's what
2:06:02
the what act whatever.
2:06:04
John C Dvorak: Banning the information, there's a giveaway
2:06:07
there that there's something amiss. That's
2:06:09
Adam Curry: exactly right. I feel like that myself, What are
2:06:13
you drinking today Johnny Boy,
2:06:15
John C Dvorak: polar seltzer 100% natural is 100%
2:06:20
Adam Curry: He
2:06:20
Unknown: 700 frickin percent and with
2:06:22
Adam Curry: that I'd like to thank you for your courage and
2:06:24
say in the morning to the man who put the sea and scandalous
2:06:27
ladies and gentlemen say hello to my friend on the other end
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the one and only Mr. Johnson
2:06:35
John C Dvorak: in the morning to Mr. Adam curry also in the
2:06:37
morning no chips to see boots on the ground air feet near
2:06:40
substitute boots on the ground feed the air subs in the water
2:06:43
and all the names on nights out there
2:06:49
Adam Curry: count 19 115 Trolls at this moment. 1915 So that's
2:06:55
up for a Sunday. That's good. All things considered. Seeing as
2:06:59
we lost at least five people in that sub he said subs in the
2:07:02
water. I don't know if they're gonna hear it, John. They ran
2:07:04
out of air this morning. It's not good. I thought
2:07:06
John C Dvorak: today was Thursday. Yeah, Thursday. That's
2:07:08
did i What did I say? said Sunday.
2:07:11
Adam Curry: I'm on drugs. You know what? It's
2:07:15
John C Dvorak: a lousy. No.
2:07:16
Adam Curry: It's a shoot sick crap number. No,
2:07:17
John C Dvorak: no, I'm sorry. It's a good number. Sunday's is
2:07:19
lousy number.
2:07:20
Adam Curry: It would be lousy. Lousy. Yeah, it's a good number
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for Thursday. You know, I had my new teeth put in Yes. My new
2:07:26
temps actually. Okay, does that sound good?
2:07:30
John C Dvorak: Yes, I'm fine. Don't sound any different to me.
2:07:32
Adam Curry: Okay. The I think I'm more happy right now. I'm
2:07:37
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And so we always look for something that's special. I
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think the choice we made for episode 1565. We titled it clop
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clop. For the big move it hack was a Father's Day piece. Even
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though there was kind of the Father's Day donations were
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little I was less than stellar. This piece of artwork struck a
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Scaramanga and it was a little baby night handing some flowers,
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hay was so incredibly cute, and people really picked up on it.
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And I think that's why we have at least 100 people more
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drew them in, like these guys. They can't be all Nasi. This
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Look at this cute picture. So we appreciate that Francisco
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Scaramanga and we had a number of pieces to choose from, which
2:13:00
you can follow along while we discuss this. Actually, I
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John C Dvorak: think I was referring something and then we
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both agreed on this robot. What was it? Yeah, you can be wrong.
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Adam Curry: No, you were No, you'd like to hold on a second.
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You can find like the
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John C Dvorak: non birthing caretaker. I like the the Mao
2:13:18
misused monks ship by Perry. Non happy non burning caregiver day.
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Yeah,
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Adam Curry: with my piece I like Yes. And
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John C Dvorak: and you just thought it was a mess. And it
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was in you're colorblind and you couldn't see it. And it was you
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didn't like it anyway. And then then you had no other choice.
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And then
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Adam Curry: hold on, hold on. I said it's a mess. But I said
2:13:46
then I said, but that may be because it's a lot of dots and
2:13:49
colors that I have issues with with my so called color
2:13:52
blindness. And we kind of left it at that because then we both
2:13:56
looked at the Scaramanga piece
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John C Dvorak: Oh yeah, there's no dig is hadn't showed it's a
2:14:01
beautiful piece it really the one I got my pick was based on
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the humor kind of of it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. belittling the
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holiday somewhat.
2:14:13
Adam Curry: Which is always Yeah, we don't like to belittle
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the holiday we are tradition. Heaven forbid
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John C Dvorak: we do that
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Adam Curry: traditional man. You got the robot you can follow
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along and no agenda art generator.com You can become an
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artist yourself and just create an account upload the nodes and
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this while listening live. And so the minute we're done, no, I
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literally I, I find an opening clip. And I've marked them
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during the during the show. We decide on that we do the
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credits, and then we go to the artwork. And then you know, by
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the end, we hope to have everything in we give the
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artists a couple extra minutes there to finish up. So it's not
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an easy thing to do. But if if you've got the skills, then you
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know that
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John C Dvorak: yeah, it's kind of
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Adam Curry: Father's Day because you always get these new sound
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machines and then you just overdo it. use them sparingly.
2:15:03
This one sounds like a bagpipe being
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John C Dvorak: a cost. Maybe guy just for me it is a turkey call.
2:15:13
Yeah.
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Adam Curry: Because it sounds like a turkey.
2:15:17
John C Dvorak: Does you ever do you get turkeys around here and
2:15:19
they yell at you they make noises.
2:15:21
Adam Curry: Okay, so I want you to go out after the show and
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Luer a turkey and with that, okay?
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John C Dvorak: Do we all have the front yard, I'll take a
2:15:31
picture.
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Adam Curry: If you're using a modern podcast app, you'll see
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all of these different pieces of artwork, as they most of them
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get displayed in the chapters, which Dred Scott does for us
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another great valuable addition to the show. And we appreciate
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that. So when you're driving, you will see these just, you
2:15:46
know, changing as as chapters and topics change and he takes a
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lot of the artwork from no agenda, and probably most of the
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artwork from no agenda Art Generator. So thank you very
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much, Francisco Scaramanga and all of the artists who submit
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their work, we appreciate it, and we hope everybody gets their
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with Stephen Hutto from St. Petersburg, Florida $452 And I'm
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not sure why that amount but he sent us a picture of his
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odometer which said 33,300 33,300 miles and he says
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I knew it was time to donate when I saw the odometer courtesy
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of my 2017 Lexus SUV. He does not drive a lot I guess 33,000
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Miles doesn't seem like a lot for first six years does it
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John C Dvorak: 5000 miles a year yeah. sappy unless you have a
2:17:20
commute that's pretty common. Yeah. And he says no jingles no
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karma so my mileage I don't drive it
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Adam Curry: no no jingles no karma so we will not give you
2:17:30
jingles or Karma. Thank you very much for your support.
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John C Dvorak: He keeps come in before and it's I haven't heard
2:17:36
him for a while. I'm glad to hear from him. Bowman McMahon
2:17:40
and Utopia Texas came in with 233 3.33 donations. Which makes
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me wonder if was a mistake and is no note to be found anywhere
2:17:49
even though Jays like freaked out about it. So we don't know
2:17:53
what I love.
2:17:54
Adam Curry: She goes. Check your emails. check emails, gentlemen,
2:17:59
there's no no there's two of these donations. It does seem
2:18:02
kind of weird. You'd have two identical donations and no
2:18:07
notes. So
2:18:08
John C Dvorak: I've taken it. I'm of the opinion that we're
2:18:10
going to end up losing half of this money.
2:18:12
Adam Curry: That's okay. Well, we're happy to return it if that
2:18:14
was a mistake. Yeah.
2:18:15
John C Dvorak: And I also know it would be nice to read
2:18:18
anything he has to say
2:18:19
Adam Curry: given the double up karma that we usually hand out
2:18:21
and he's got
2:18:25
John C Dvorak: Where is where is in fact, utopia? Texas.
2:18:30
Adam Curry: I don't know. I don't know. It's not I don't
2:18:33
think it's actually that far from here. To be honest,
2:18:36
John C Dvorak: you're a rocket Texas's No. No, Texas big men
2:18:40
that rocket Texas.
2:18:41
Adam Curry: What did you do in rocket Texas?
2:18:43
John C Dvorak: Well, that's where they had the big giant
2:18:45
Super Collider. They were building and I was given a tour
2:18:47
of it.
2:18:48
Adam Curry: Is it still there? No, no, it's
2:18:50
John C Dvorak: once it this is George Bush project out who is
2:18:53
the George Bush? Ronald Reagan. I can't remember whoever was I
2:18:57
think Obama killed it or Clinton kill it. One of them someone
2:19:00
killed Democrats killed it? Because it was it was good
2:19:03
because it was gonna work. And so when I was in rocket, Texas
2:19:07
that's when I was introduced to some to some of the greatest
2:19:12
chicken fried steak at some Cafe Cafe whose name I forgotten in
2:19:16
rocket Texas.
2:19:18
Adam Curry: Yeah, we definitely could not have anything like
2:19:20
that working that would ruin the oil industry. Why even do it in
2:19:23
Texas, you know nuts.
2:19:25
John C Dvorak: When I was for research purposes, it wasn't
2:19:28
really going to hurt the oil industry. But anyway, onward
2:19:31
Adam Curry: Chris angler in Ancaster Ontario. Candidate
2:19:36
we're already at Associate Executive Producer $250.73 I
2:19:41
wonder if he's a ham