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Adam Curry: Live, Adam curry
Jhansi Tavares say June 22 2023
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This is your award winning
combination media assassination
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episode 1566. This
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Unknown: is no agenda looking
over
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Adam Curry: here, not over there
and broadcasting live from the
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heart of the Texas hill country
here in FEMA Region number six
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in the morning, everybody. I'm
Adam curry
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John C Dvorak: from Northern
Silicon Valley where I'm
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wondering, When did Chloe Moretz
become Chloe Grace Moretz, um,
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Genesee Dvorak?
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Adam Curry: Wow. A riddle this
early on in the show. A riddle
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who is Chloe Moretz.
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John C Dvorak: chloro go nuts.
Chloe Grace. Marissa, who is
0:46
that? She's an actress she's
she's very if you saw or you
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know who she was. She was on the
Today Show. Our three this
0:56
morning I was watching as eating
as I was eating breakfast.
1:00
Adam Curry: More interesting
would be watching your show
1:02
John C Dvorak: ever?
1:03
Adam Curry: Well, you know, as
we are rewatching friends, as we
1:06
do from time to time, we noticed
the moment when Courtney Cox
1:11
Bitcoin became Courtney Cox Once
you marry and I forgot. Why are
1:19
we even talking about this?
1:20
John C Dvorak: You I just
mentioned it as an opener. i
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Adam Curry: What? What did you
have for breakfast? I was going
1:26
for breakfast is more
interesting.
1:29
John C Dvorak: I had a pancake
and an egg on top. Grand Slam
1:34
star
1:35
Adam Curry: truckers truckstop
breakfast I love that.
1:38
Excellent. Well good then you're
ready for it
1:49
yeah, this has got to be the
biggest distraction of the week.
1:52
Everybody falling for it the
most emailed articles the most
1:55
emailed and posted theories and
you even participated at some
2:00
point. No, yes you did on no
agenda social. It did. Yes. You
2:05
did. You're like yeah, that was
my thought. Like they probably
2:08
it's probably hit job on
somebody's
2:10
John C Dvorak: job guy. Yeah,
job. Oh, yeah. Yeah, Pakistani
2:14
billionaire. Yeah,
2:15
Adam Curry: it's the sub
2:16
Unknown: back in 2018. Industry
experts expressed concern about
2:19
the Titan sub in a letter
addressed to stock did rush, the
2:22
CEO of ocean gate, which
operates the sub. In that letter
2:26
obtained by the New York Times
and later authenticated by ABC
2:30
News. The Marine technology
society warned of potentially
2:33
catastrophic problems with the
Titans development that could
2:37
have serious consequences. The
group insisted on oversight from
2:41
a third party organization,
there has been a lot of
2:43
headlines calling this a tourist
hub. This is not a tourist hub.
2:46
It must be understood this as an
experimental craft, and that
2:50
there are significant risks
attached to it. hemper says
2:52
after the letter was leaked,
ocean gate CEO made changes he
2:57
made it more clear that it's an
expeditionary or a experimental
3:02
aircraft. Meanwhile, many
observers have been surprised to
3:06
learn the vessel is steered
using a video game controller.
3:10
But that does not concern
experts few people
3:12
are aware of is that the unit US
military has happily embraced
3:17
this kind of technology. We are
operating drones. We are firing
3:22
lasers and operating periscopes
on US Navy submarines using
3:28
similar technology.
3:30
Adam Curry: I love the story.
This is the story. Everybody
3:33
wants. Oh yeah, man. I mean,
this is why we all watch space
3:37
launches. That we want to see
him die. Come on, man. Listen,
3:41
we want to help me now. It will
be very NASCAR theory. Yes.
3:45
It'll be very unsatisfactory. If
we're not if we're not pulling
3:48
dead bodies out of a sub
depleted of air. That's what we
3:52
want. The whole world is
captured by it.
3:55
John C Dvorak: It's almost I had
no in the mind of ever
3:57
discussing this story. But I'm
glad you did. i By the way, it
4:00
was only brought into it as a
response to somebody mentioning
4:04
my thesis.
4:06
Adam Curry: Yeah, but I mean,
you engage man. You engaged in
4:11
the distraction of the century
Game
4:13
John C Dvorak: Controller aspect
of this is the funniest part.
4:17
Yeah, this
4:17
Adam Curry: show is run on a
game controller. What are people
4:19
talking about?
4:22
John C Dvorak: Everything is
it's a great product.
4:25
Adam Curry: Yes. We love it. The
member when where's the data
4:30
glove? Bring the day the glove
back. I love that thing.
4:33
Remember, people were hacking
the data glove from Nintendo.
4:37
Remember that thing? That was?
Wow, that thing was
4:40
John C Dvorak: cool. You have
one?
4:43
Adam Curry: I have some I had
one at some point. Definitely.
4:46
Definitely. Oh, I thought that
thing was the best.
4:49
John C Dvorak: You know my
favorite thing about this story
4:51
is the people coming out of the
woodwork to talk about how
4:55
dangerous this is. And my
favorite guy. Was was some
4:59
character says All it needs is
it Nick in the hall? And it'll
5:04
collapse on itself.
5:08
Adam Curry: Yeah, that's what
we're all waiting for. And I
5:11
love the we heard we heard
knocking here we heard knocking
5:14
with one of our probes that we
can't find it. I mean, I had
5:17
this
5:17
John C Dvorak: supposedly
somebody heard knocking from an
5:19
airplane, what was that?
5:20
Adam Curry: They dropped a
probe, they dropped a probe. And
5:23
then they said, probe, the same
probe, they dropped a blow to
5:26
Nord Stream pipeline. Okay, so
that was one story. But the next
5:31
story, this I love this story.
We've been tracking it, we've
5:35
been tracking everything from
fake meat to the new cell, cell
5:39
based meat, which is this
ghastly idea of extracting cells
5:44
from an animal, presumably a
chicken or chicken egg, and then
5:48
growing meat in in the big vat,
and then serving that as like
5:54
growing bacteria. Yes, growing
cells like cancer cells. So the
5:59
USDA, not
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John C Dvorak: the order he used
guar.
6:03
Adam Curry: Explain gwrc.
Everyone knows what it is.
6:06
John C Dvorak: It's a biscuit
goo that you put in the bottom
6:08
of the petri dish to
6:10
Adam Curry: morrow to mold stuff
they mined. So I'm thinking so
6:14
the USDA approved the use of
this approve this. Now, that's
6:18
not the FDA, the Food and Drug
Administration, but the USDA
6:23
approved it. So it now can go
into some restaurants. And
6:27
there's a whole new marketing
tactic behind it. And I just
6:30
have to go through this because
that I mean, there's money
6:33
behind this, their scripts
behind this. It's identical
6:37
scripts. You're allowed to me to
do a variation, if you will. But
6:42
of course, initially, this was
climate change. We need to move
6:46
to protein and soy based meat,
because cow farts are killing
6:51
the world. According to Greta, I
think was yesterday was five
6:56
years since the world would be
expire, thanks to her tweet.
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John C Dvorak: Yeah, she said
that the world would come to an
7:02
end yesterday. Yeah. And we're
not doing that with GM. She
7:06
didn't say this yesterday. She
said it five years ago, he
7:09
predicted it was going to
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Adam Curry: come to an end, but
it would be pretty much however,
7:13
yeah, it'd be hell. So ABC, who
of course get paid the most
7:17
money. And let's see if you can
figure out what the key is in
7:21
the support. And then I have
three other really short ones.
7:24
And then I have the the mega
native ad from NPR.
7:27
Unknown: This morning, the USDA
for the first time has approved
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lab grown meat to be sold to the
public. So that's where it all
7:33
starts just a few cells to
cultivated meat producers now
7:37
getting the green light to begin
commercially selling their
7:39
chicken products. Lab grown meat
is created using cells from
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living animals such as
fertilized eggs, which was then
7:45
incubated and grown into large
masses of meat and the stainless
7:48
mass bio reactors. ABCs Devin
Dwyer recently got a tour of
7:52
California based upside foods
where meat is cultivated, you're
7:56
making chicken in there. Yeah.
So
7:57
if you look at this, this is a
approximately a 200 plus liter
8:01
tank. And we take cells from a
chicken or egg takes two weeks
8:07
to grow the equivalent of one
chicken 1000 chickens or 100,000
8:10
chickens. So you're saying that
this factory you can make more
8:13
meat faster and cleaner than an
average farmer? Well,
8:17
ultimately, yes,
8:18
the company says lab grown meat
could be instrumental in helping
8:21
feed the world's growing
population as meat demand rises,
8:25
while using a fraction of the
land and water of animal farming
8:28
helping to reduce greenhouse gas
emissions. Critics argue it's no
8:32
silver bullet with the potential
for major socio economic
8:35
implications and questions about
how the meat is labeled. Many
8:38
experts say more study is needed
8:40
more research and just caution I
think that a lot of companies
8:44
are going to use or present the
best case scenarios
8:47
as for how the lab grown chicken
tastes
8:50
alright, my first bite
cultivated me
8:55
Adam Curry: chicken Yeah, okay,
so the payoff is the same for
8:59
everybody. Oh, it tastes like
chicken. But did you catch the
9:03
the new marketing the new
marketing that they're using?
9:06
But no, not really. You take it
from living animals. Not you
9:11
don't kill an animal. living
animals.
9:15
Unknown: The age of lab grown
meat has arrived in this
9:18
country. The Agriculture
Department just approved to
9:20
California companies to sell
chicken grown in steel tanks
9:24
using cells that come from an
animal egg or a special bank of
9:27
stored cells. To sell cultivated
chicken will first be available
9:31
at a restaurant in San Francisco
and another one in Washington DC
9:35
owned by famed chef Jose on
today's before hitting stores
9:38
now
9:39
Adam Curry: CBS didn't get any
money. They didn't they didn't
9:41
use the script. Do you know that
Chef by the way, the famed chef
9:45
he's a famous chef. Okay, well
he needs to be checked off the
9:49
list. He's no good. No. I think
all the fox affiliates they got
9:54
the they got the ad by the first
time
9:57
Unknown: you as regulators
approved this als chicken made
10:00
from animal cells. It allows two
California companies to offer
10:04
lab grown meat to restaurants.
The cultivated meat is grown in
10:09
steel tanks using cells that
come from a living animal, a
10:13
fertilized egg or a special bank
of stored
10:16
Adam Curry: cells, a living
animal and this fox affiliate
10:19
took it one step further.
10:20
Unknown: The US Department of
Agriculture has approved the
10:22
sale of chicken made from animal
cells so cultivated
10:26
or cultured meat as it's been
called as grown in steel tanks
10:31
using cells that come from a
living animal comes on and
10:34
sheets and cut to mimic real
meat they say to California
10:38
companies, upside foods and good
meats have raised to be the
10:41
first in the US to sell meat
that
10:43
doesn't come from slaughtered
animals.
10:45
Adam Curry: Oh, nice variation,
not from slaughtered animals. So
10:50
you could only imagine the the
bubbly women at NPR we just have
10:55
a field day with this one. That
NPR has slid so far downhill is
11:03
it's a this is something you'd
expect from gimlet partly what
11:08
does it Spotify podcast?
11:10
John C Dvorak: If you think
you're just noticing that this
11:12
has been going on for a decade I
11:14
Adam Curry: know you have you
have actually accentuated this
11:17
in recent shows with these these
women dingbats? Yes, I hate to
11:22
say it but they're dingbats
indeed
11:24
Unknown: US Department of
Agriculture.
11:26
Adam Curry: She'll start off
just we've got to analyze this
11:28
she starts off serious and the
minute she's no she's getting to
11:32
the story. And to her, her
compatriot her
11:36
John C Dvorak: or her comedy
partner and comedy
11:39
Adam Curry: comedy partner, she
starts to get all jiggy with it.
11:43
Unknown: The US Department of
Agriculture has for the first
11:45
time in history given a green
light to two US companies to
11:49
sell meat that is grown directly
from animal cells without
11:53
slaughtering the animal to she
11:55
Adam Curry: got the slaughtering
the animal mean this is very
11:57
good. So she's read the the
required copy.
12:01
Unknown: Until recently it was
called lab grown meats and
12:04
scientists were developing it in
labs. Now though the labs have
12:07
been replaced by production
facilities that can grow 10s of
12:11
1000s of pounds of meat a year.
Rolla, Harris Allison Aubrey has
12:15
visited these companies and
tasted the meat and joins us
12:18
now.
12:21
Adam Curry: She's tasted the
12:22
Unknown: mean I'm really excited
now though the labs have been
12:24
replaced by production
facilities that can grow 10s of
12:28
1000s of pounds of meat a year.
And BRS Allison Aubrey has
12:32
visited these companies and
tasted the meat and joins us
12:34
now. Hey, Allison.
12:36
Adam Curry: Hi, there. Hi there.
Hey, Alison. Hi, there's time
12:39
from serious report.
12:40
Unknown: So Alison, what exactly
did the USDA approved today?
12:43
Well, for 1000s of years, eating
meat has meant slaughtering
12:47
animals slaughtering
12:48
Adam Curry: animals. You getting
them the marketing pitch here,
12:51
Unknown: but the scientists
behind the two companies that
12:54
received USDA clearance today
say that's no longer necessary.
12:58
Instead, they produce meat by
extracting cells from an
13:01
animal's body, then they feed
the cells and literally grow
13:05
meat in big stainless steel
tanks.
13:09
John C Dvorak: Does this sound
like he should be fired
13:11
immediately?
13:12
Adam Curry: Like Bill Nye the
Science Guy? Female Version? I
13:15
mean, yeah, I mean, they're just
jumping over this.
13:19
John C Dvorak: gushing is the
word. Thank you.
13:21
Unknown: Their production
facilities look like breweries
13:23
almost. But instead of beer,
they're brewing meats and buying
13:27
Adam Curry: meat. Oh, yes, this
is so she's a science editor. I
13:31
miss it because she's really
doing a good job to speak.
13:33
Unknown: I do not know how I
feel about that. But okay, let's
13:36
go on here. Hearing about me for
a long time. Now. I mean, a lot
13:40
of us have eaten our fair share
of veggie burgers. Burgers over
13:44
the years. But what makes this
different? What makes is
13:48
this is nothing like the
Impossible Burger or,
13:51
Adam Curry: Oh, John. Did you
know that this is nothing like
13:55
the Impossible Burger?
13:58
Unknown: ossible burgers over
the years. But what makes us
14:01
different.
14:01
This is nothing like the
Impossible Burger or a veggie
14:05
burger, which are made from
vegetable proteins of soy,
14:09
potato protein and a bunch of
other ingredients that are mixed
14:12
together mystery ingredients
that tastes like meat. What's
14:16
approved for sale today actually
is meat.
14:20
Adam Curry: Oh, it's Oh, it
actually is meat. Oh, okay. I'm
14:25
happy to know that this stuff
you grew in, have you brewed you
14:29
brewed this meat and it's
actually me three
14:31
Unknown: hands that are mixed
together to taste like meat.
14:34
What's approved for sale today
actually is meat. When I said
14:39
foods which is headquartered in
Berkeley, they prepared their
14:42
chicken which is grown directly
from chicken cells. It's more
14:45
than 99% Chicken cells. It was
pan
14:51
Adam Curry: their secret
ingredient and
14:52
Unknown: a lovely buttery wine
sauce. Oh
14:55
Adam Curry: John. Oh, she got
duped. They put this hunk of
14:59
celcom cultured precancerous goo
into a lovely, lovely buttery
15:04
wine saw sluggard
15:06
Unknown: in Berkeley, they
prepared their chicken which is
15:08
grown directly from chicken
cells. It's more than 99%
15:11
Chicken cells. It was pan seared
and a kind of lovely buttery
15:16
wine sauce.
15:17
I mean, Alison, you're kind of
burying the lede here. How did
15:19
it taste? How was it?
15:21
You know, I think almost
anything cooked in butter and
15:23
wine probably tastes good. What
did impress me is the texture.
15:27
They've basically replicated the
texture of chicken breast. I
15:31
told the CEO of upside foods,
uma valetti. Hey, it tastes just
15:35
like chicken. Oh, this
15:37
Adam Curry: is this. Everyone's
got the great line tastes just
15:40
like chicken. And this guy. I
mean, are we sure that he's
15:43
actually the chicken growing
guy, or is he the guy from
15:45
Google? I don't know.
15:47
Unknown: It is chicken. It's
just chicken growing.
15:50
Adam Curry: Google, like Sundar
Pichai. He's moonlighting as the
15:55
chicken guy. I'm telling you,
15:57
Unknown: it is chicken. It's
just chicken grown directly from
16:01
animal cells in a different way.
Yeah,
16:03
John C Dvorak: it is. Right
there. It's
16:05
Unknown: a lie. It is not
chicken.
16:06
John C Dvorak: It's not chicken.
It's a tumor. What they're doing
16:10
is growing tumors. Well, at
least I have the texture was it
16:14
not a tumor?
16:16
Adam Curry: I'm in agreeance was
rebranded.
16:18
John C Dvorak: Right, get it get
it out of the way rebranded
16:21
quick chicken tumor tumors.
16:25
Adam Curry: Just plain old
tumors. tumors in want tonight
16:28
we have tumors to
16:30
John C Dvorak: butters and wine
and butter into buttery.
16:34
Unknown: It is chicken is just
chicken grown directly from
16:37
animal cells in a different way
in a very clean controlled
16:40
environment.
16:40
Oh no. Dr. valetti is a cardio
that's also
16:43
Adam Curry: interesting how they
do it's clean, clean environment
16:47
not did it mainly mainly makes
you think of chicken poop. nasty
16:52
ass chickens walking around. I
mean, this is actually a oh, I
16:56
should have played the jingle.
feel bad about it. This is a war
17:02
on chicken.
17:04
John C Dvorak: We had to work on
chicken before remember. Yeah.
17:06
But yeah. We have a jingle.
17:09
Unknown: Yeah, here it is.
Here's the jingle
17:17
on chicken.
17:19
Adam Curry: We predicted this
years ago that this would happen
17:22
years ago. years ago. It's
17:24
Unknown: just chicken grown
directly from animal cells in a
17:26
different way in a very clean
controlled environment.
17:29
John C Dvorak: Now Dr. valetti
Russia. Yeah, sure. So these
17:32
journalists does and you've
you've already given us ABC,
17:36
CBS, NBC. Now we're on NPR.
There's one journalist anywhere,
17:41
say to that guy. Is there
anything else besides chicken?
17:46
You can grow like beef or
buffalo or, or Yak, or dinosaurs
17:53
or anything? Is there any other
thing you can grow besides
17:56
chicken? Can
17:56
Adam Curry: we go woolly
mammoth? We I think we have a
17:59
woolly mammoth.
18:00
John C Dvorak: Did anyone ask
that simple question. That would
18:03
be the first thing I'd ask
18:05
Adam Curry: it. It wasn't asked
per se but it came up as kind of
18:09
a toss away at the end of this
report. My question would be,
18:13
can we grow human meat for
consumption? I hear human meat.
18:17
Delicious. Delicious
18:19
Unknown: is good. What did
impress me is the texture
18:22
they've basically replicated the
texture with
18:27
just chicken grown directly from
animal cells in a different way
18:30
in a very clean controlled
environment.
18:32
Now, Dr. valetti is a
cardiologist who became a
18:35
vegetarian but he loves the
taste of meat. And he thinks
18:38
this is a better way to produce
meat one that could be better
18:41
for the environment. And as the
son of a veterinarian, he likes
18:45
the idea of sparing animals
lives.
18:47
Oh, don't kill the chicken.
18:48
Okay, so where can people buy it
or get a taste of
18:52
it? Right now don't expect to
see it in grocery stores. To
18:55
start out both companies have
kind of teamed up with famous
18:58
chefs upside foods is working
with Chef Dominique Crenn, a
19:02
Michelin starred chef in San
Francisco and good meat. The
19:05
other company that got clearance
today has partnered with
19:08
megastar Jose Andres
19:09
Adam Curry: who will yeah you
know these guys?
19:12
John C Dvorak: Well, this she
she mentioned Dominique Crenn.
19:15
Yeah. Which is Corinne Atal Lea.
The most expensive restaurant or
19:21
one of them. Definitely in San
Francisco but in the world.
19:25
Yeah. Yeah, she's she bought
into this. She must not be
19:29
making this mistake. Even.
Despite her ridiculously high
19:32
prices that are restaurants she
must be losing her ass. Do this.
19:36
Well, I mean, reputation ruined
her juice. Now cooking tumors
19:42
Unknown: serve cultivated
chicken at one of his
19:44
restaurants.
19:45
I mean, so why should people
want this what is wrong with the
19:48
way that meats produced today?
Oh, now this
19:50
is an in depth question. It
depends on who you ask. So
19:53
traditional meat industry says
the status quo is efficient, but
19:56
meat production has a big
environmental footprint. I
19:59
talked about Bruce Friedrich who
heads the nonprofit Good Food
20:02
Institute he investments in
protein alternatives and says
20:06
there are more than 150
companies working to bring
20:10
cultivated meat and seafood to
market
20:12
Adam Curry: so she interviewed a
guy who has investments in
20:14
alternative food for some for
some free standing advice which
20:19
would not be influenced by
anything these people are
20:22
Unknown: working on the global
demand for meat is expected to
20:26
double by 2050
20:28
did me gives consumers
everything that they liked about
20:30
me, but it requires a fraction
of the land requires
20:34
significantly less water and
20:36
now it remains to be seen
whether cultivated meat
20:38
production can lower
20:39
Adam Curry: that guy's that
guy's got to get with the
20:41
program. He is missing the boat
instead of it's no longer about
20:45
climate change, buddy. It's no
longer about that. It's about
20:49
not killing animals not
slaughtering animals. In fact,
20:53
the title which was
disappointing that didn't use
20:56
the term the title of the NPR
report was no kill meat
21:00
Unknown: greenhouse gas
emissions from producing meat
21:02
but what is clear is that now
that cultivated meat is approved
21:06
for sale it is no longer science
fiction, people will get a
21:09
chance to taste it.
21:10
All right, that is NPR is
Allison. Aubrey, thank you so
21:13
much.
21:14
Adam Curry: Thank you. Great to
be here. Great to be here. Thank
21:17
you. Okay. So I'll then I'll
shut up. So while everyone was
21:23
distracted by no kill meat and
brewing meat, massive question,
21:29
yeah.
21:31
John C Dvorak: If you're a vegan
How do you take this
21:35
philosophically?
21:37
Adam Curry: I think it's okay,
because you're not killing the
21:39
animal.
21:40
John C Dvorak: I don't think
what if you Yeah, I'm not I
21:44
don't think that's the point of
veganism.
21:47
Adam Curry: Yeah, but maybe we
can grab the vegans as well.
21:49
What
21:49
John C Dvorak: about vegetarian
if you're okay to forget the
21:52
vegan Cisco's vegetarians?
vegetarians don't eat meat
21:57
because it's it has anything to
do with killing animals that I
22:00
know Oh, yes.
22:01
Adam Curry: Yeah. Say
22:03
John C Dvorak: like vegetables.
22:04
Adam Curry: Right? But is the
vegetarian is really about the
22:08
killing of animals. I mean, I
don't know I think
22:10
John C Dvorak: veganism isn't
it? No, I
22:12
Adam Curry: think I don't know.
I I I love meat I love and I'm
22:18
like too crazy about chicken
because you know, unless I get
22:20
one from local from someone's
backyard. Yeah. Viable Product.
22:25
It is a terrible product. So
it's most vicious terrible these
22:28
days, too. We eat beef. But now
we have no no brewing. It'll be
22:33
even a better slogan brewing
beef. Get on it, people will
22:38
start to brew some beef. So
anyway, all of this was
22:41
distraction. Hahaha fantastic
submarine brewing meat.
22:46
Meanwhile, the elites of the
world, including our leaders,
22:51
were literally dividing up the
spoils of war in Ukraine. And I
22:57
looked into
22:57
John C Dvorak: this they had a
meeting already about re how
22:59
they're going to rebuild who's
gonna get what contract and oh,
23:03
yeah, it's not even over.
23:04
Adam Curry: Oh, no. But this
thing has been going on for six
23:06
years. I'll explain first now
this is the report that got me
23:10
interested TRT there's the
Turkish radio and television
23:12
report.
23:14
Unknown: Billions of dollars
have already been pledged to
23:16
supply and train Ukraine's
military. But attention is now
23:19
turning to Ukraine's
reconstruction. The British are
23:25
hosting a Ukraine recovery
conference in London this week.
23:28
He was Secretary Antony Blinken
arrived on Tuesday, over 60
23:32
countries will be represented.
23:34
President Biden said from the
outset of Russia's aggression
23:37
against Ukraine that we would
stand with Ukraine for as long
23:40
as it takes. And both of our
countries are deeply committed
23:43
to that we will continue to
deliver on that commitment,
23:46
including through a new robust
US assistance package that I'll
23:51
be able to announce tomorrow.
23:54
On Tuesday, the EU Commission
announced another $54 billion
23:57
for the next four years.
23:59
This includes both loans and
grants. The Preserve will
24:04
provide first of all perspective
for our partners in Ukraine.
24:10
And it should also incentivize
other donors to step up to the
24:15
World Bank says Ukraine will
need 400 billion to rebuild the
24:20
same as Germany after World War
Two, a huge task that will need
24:24
efficient coordination and
private sector investment. And
24:28
that will require reassurance
about kyiv's commitment to
24:31
reform and fight
24:33
Adam Curry: corruption. So he
kind of gave it away there. This
24:36
used to be called the Ukraine
reform Conference, which started
24:40
in 2017. That was the first one
is held in in the UK. And they
24:47
changed that last year into the
Ukraine recovery conference, you
24:53
could keep the same acronym the
same logos. They just replaced
24:56
the word reform with recovery.
You and I looked at the program
25:02
and I watch the videos and it
makes no sense to listen to
25:05
them. They are talking about
import export taxes taxation on
25:12
agriculture companies they're
the soil contracts they're
25:16
dividing this entire country up
amongst themselves with your
25:20
with our money. Oh yeah, no this
is we have a grants and loans
25:25
and all this stuff. Oh yes, it's
gonna be and it's all about
25:29
building back better I kid you
not restoring livelihood. They
25:35
don't care about Ukrainian
people how many we need to get
25:37
more workers back there to
exploit the soil if this is big
25:43
agriculture in a massive way.
And then we've got BlackRock and
25:49
JP Morgan, they will be handling
the recovery bank. Well, what
25:53
could possibly go wrong with
that? to it, this is
25:57
unbelievable. No, it's I totally
believable, but no one was
26:02
really reporting on this.
There's not a lot of us news
26:04
about this reporting on it now.
Not even not even UK NEWS. And
26:09
everyone was their queen Ursula
Blinken and I even Prince
26:14
Charles
26:14
Unknown: at Kings welcome for
Ukraine's Prime Minister Denis
26:17
Shamal. as world leaders and
foreign ministers line up behind
26:20
yes, we're in this together.
We're in this together says the
26:23
head of the EU Commission ocean
of underlying together account
26:26
how much and exactly who
26:28
Adam Curry: says there's
bullcrap we're in this together
26:31
get taken our money, giving it
to contractors, the contractor?
26:37
Speech it, it's crazy. It's
every single big agriculture
26:41
company, you can think of all
the banks, they are dividing. I
26:45
think at this point, let's just
keep the war going until we've
26:48
got all the agreements signed. I
mean, it's like, just what do
26:53
you think they're doing? Well, I
didn't I didn't realize that
26:56
they were just I mean, now I do.
I mean, we're seeing that
26:59
they're fighting over 50 meters
of turf.
27:04
John C Dvorak: no agreement on
that yet.
27:06
Adam Curry: No, that's
unimportant. They don't care
27:08
about that. It's about all the
big agricultural land and the
27:10
financing sector and I guess
they'll have a tax free haven
27:14
for tech goodbye Ireland's
together. We're in
27:17
Unknown: this together, says the
head of the EU Commission,
27:19
Ursula von der Leyen put
together to work out how much
27:22
and exactly who's paying for the
cost of repair and
27:24
reconstruction for a nation
still at war. before they
27:28
arrive, they were sent a clear
pitch from Ukraine's president
27:31
and his nightly address,
27:33
meets the non green rebuilt
Ukraine and transformed Ukraine
27:36
a strengthened Ukraine is a
security carrier and a security
27:39
guarantor, Woodlands protection
against any form of Russian
27:42
terror and protection against
any repetition of Russian
27:45
aggression is after
27:46
the devastation from 483 days of
conflict is clear across the
27:51
country. The World Bank says
Ukraine's reparation effort
27:54
could cost around $400 billion
over the next decade. But that
27:58
estimate was before the counter
offensive. Oh meanie mark, and
28:02
the sudden destruction of the
dam. And with Russia still
28:06
targeting infrastructure.
Analysts say the final bill
28:08
could be over a trillion
dollars.
28:12
Adam Curry: Why did they blow up
the dam so we can pay people to
28:15
go and rebuild it. Of course,
this is the rubble lie strategy.
28:19
The Jackals are out time to
build build build
28:21
Unknown: better for the US and
UK. It was a joint message for
28:25
countries to dig deep
28:27
ensure, as teams, independent
nation demands not only
28:33
providing security, but also for
its economy, its democracy, and
28:38
its full integration in Europe.
28:41
key to the success of the
pledging conference will be how
28:43
to guarantee that Ukraine is a
place to invest in the future.
28:47
The niceties in a country with
endemic problems of corruption
28:50
and a possibility of a conflict
lasting years. Thereafter, the
28:54
billions already spent arming
the defense of a nation leaders
28:57
are looking ahead to peacetime
Ukraine to ensure legacy their
29:01
health wasn't for nothing.
29:03
Adam Curry: No, listen to that.
Listen to that music. It played
29:06
that music. Yeah, I was the guy
in Oregon grinder with a monkey
29:10
on his shoulder outside of the
conference. Oh, yeah. If you
29:16
look at all these things, all
it's about tax tax tax, you
29:21
know, of course, we want a place
where we can, you know, put our
29:24
our cheap workers, the ones we
haven't replaced with AI. You
29:29
know, customer help, you know,
customer service people, I
29:32
guess. And we want to know, tax,
we want to be able to put our
29:37
banking there so that there's no
tax on taxes go
29:41
John C Dvorak: in there. Yeah.
You know, I think they did it.
29:43
What they did is identified
Ukraine, by the way, people have
29:47
to always realize Ukraine is not
a hole in the wall. It's a huge
29:51
country, in the entire country
of France and German combined, I
29:55
think yeah, it's big. It's huge.
It's massive, and it's largely
29:59
agriculture. Cultural and it
says Dad to look at and go.
30:03
Because I when I was in
Slovenia, I can notice the same
30:06
thing in the wine growing areas
like these guys are ripe to be
30:09
plucked, because they like
they're old fashioned. They do
30:15
things on small scales and lots
of them. Just this, how will
30:20
that get rid of everything
they're doing it we'll just move
30:22
our big ag in Europe and we can,
you know, feed the world from
30:26
Ukraine.
30:27
Adam Curry: That's what Ukraine
was doing your investment
30:31
opportunities and de risking
mechanisms to mobilize private
30:35
finance in Ukraine. This, this
will not go over in a country
30:40
that's wrought with war. I will
point out this session will
30:44
review approaches to attract
private capital at scale into
30:48
priority projects and sectors of
Ukraine's economy. It will
30:51
showcase investment
opportunities in Ukraine now and
30:54
in the future. And because they
know the future and the
30:57
availability of support from the
Government of Ukraine and
31:00
international partners to de
risk projects in the form of
31:04
concessional finance or finance,
what does that mean
31:07
concessional? I think that means
in that case, we have to look it
31:11
up, concessional. Let me see
definition of concession
31:18
concessional I think conceding,
conceding something such as a
31:25
point previously claimed that is
later conceded. Oh, no. So
31:28
that's like money that the show
the rip off, it's clearly a rip
31:32
off
31:33
John C Dvorak: different kinds
of rip off that road familiar
31:35
with obviously.
31:38
Adam Curry: We're not going to
get any of that. Where was it
31:43
not?
31:45
John C Dvorak: Oh, by the way,
in your point about goodbye,
31:48
Ireland. Yeah. Not only that,
but no and no offense to the
31:53
Irish. We have a lot of Irish
listeners and they're sharp but
31:56
the Ukraine people. They're
they're always been into high
32:01
tech. That's perfect for to move
tech, tax free tech into Ukraine
32:06
and then exploit their cheap
coders. Well, here
32:09
Adam Curry: it is. Tech for
transformation, digital
32:13
excellence and strengthening
partnerships. This session will
32:16
showcase Ukraine's Ukraine's
digital transformation and
32:19
vision for the future, which
they already know, the
32:22
resilience of the Ukrainian tech
sector and the opportunities for
32:25
international partnerships with
this growing sector that you're
32:29
absolutely right. How about this
one power of transformation,
32:33
building back better in the
energy sector. Building back
32:37
resilient, efficient,
decentralized and clean energy
32:40
system will be crucial to
Ukraine's economic
32:43
revitalization and long term
growth. The Government of
32:46
Ukraine will present the
recently adopted energy to 2050
32:49
strategy panelists will discuss
how to best mobilize
32:51
international support. That's
our tax money, and enable
32:55
private investment grift to
support Ukraine's long term
32:58
vision for recovery and
transformation. These efforts
33:02
are divvying it all up right
under our noses. right under our
33:07
noses has been going on since
2017. At least things take time.
33:14
Well, they do. And they're
patient. But they're all They're
33:17
all of them are there including
the big bankers, all the prime
33:20
ministers, all the foreign
ministers, everybody's there.
33:23
And I love this. If you go to
Twitter, or any social media
33:31
site, but let's just take
Twitter, I'll do this. I'll do
33:33
it live. And you type in as a
citizen arming Ukraine, those
33:38
are the words needed to type in,
I will read the first hits I get
33:41
here. As a German citizen, I
want to say that arming Ukraine
33:44
is the single best use of
taxpayer money for decades. My
33:47
only criticism is that the West
aren't sending enough fast
33:50
enough. Next one. As a citizen
of Ukraine, I want to say that
33:54
arming Ukraine is the single
best use of taxpayer money for
33:57
decades. My only criticism is
that the West aren't sending
33:59
enough fast enough. Next one, as
a Belgian citizen, I want to say
34:03
that arming Ukraine is the
single best use of taxpayer
34:06
money for decades. My only
criticism is the West aren't
34:09
sending enough fast enough. As a
Czech citizen, I want to I mean,
34:13
it goes on and on and on. As a
French citizen, same thing. It's
34:18
all boilerplate, boilerplate,
all astroturf, all with Ukraine
34:23
flags and and blue and yellow
hearts. In the in the profile as
34:30
a European citizen, I want to
say that arming Ukraine is the
34:33
single best use of taxpayer
money for decades.
34:36
John C Dvorak: Wow. Yeah, these
guys are very good. They need
34:38
AI.
34:41
Adam Curry: And, and some of
these have blue checks. So so
34:45
much for your system, Elon, or
Elon? Musk. So and then this odd
34:52
and interesting thing that
happened. Remember Oryx, that
34:57
general former General Chris All
McChrystal was boasting about
35:03
the Dutch Belgian open source
crowd sourcing that vaguely that
35:10
we, you know, maybe I should
just play it crystal How do I
35:18
spell McChrystal? How come I
can't find what how do I spell
35:26
McChrystal?
35:27
John C Dvorak: m as m is C H
there's a H in there. MCH MC is
35:34
m i think is MC MC knows EMS
wasn't Mecca see see H try that
35:40
Adam Curry: maybe it wasn't even
McChrystal EMPs MCC H Now I
35:45
study there. Well, you got to
take my word for it. So he was
35:49
saying that, you know, all all
about the war in Ukraine, maybe
35:53
if I do Stanley Stanley. I don't
know where this report was stand
35:59
lay. And he was saying he was so
proud of, of this open source
36:05
reporting. It was kind of like a
new belling cat and was called
36:09
Oryx and we went looking for the
for the website, and it's
36:12
literally like a horrible domain
name that you can't remember.
36:17
Well, they Alright, yeah, so
they also have a Twitter
36:19
account. And they were
immediately followed. They
36:24
hadn't posted much on the
Twitter account since for about
36:26
a couple of years, but now they
reactivated it. And here is the
36:29
post Dear all, I would hereby
like to inform you that I will
36:33
be ending orcs on October 1. I
originally started Oryx blog 10
36:38
years ago to cure my boredom.
Little did I know Oryx would
36:41
escalate into the all consuming
project that is today. Today.
36:45
All of us work on the articles
and lists in our free time. It's
36:48
not our job, we don't get paid.
Though I hoped our work would
36:51
one day lead to a job, no such
thing occurred, or it's just
36:54
doesn't make me happy anymore.
And continuing with it prevents
36:57
me from finding a happier place
in life. So now, I can see where
37:03
an open source project will end.
But why don't you end it now?
37:07
Why October? Why October 1. Wow.
37:11
John C Dvorak: Great. Yes.
37:13
Adam Curry: So yeah, I'm saying
walk. Yeah, something something
37:15
may be happening in October.
Maybe Maybe that's where it all
37:19
ends. They will or they order or
something or something happens
37:24
and they don't get it or they
didn't they should clearly
37:26
didn't get a renewal or someone
reneged. Someone didn't pay him.
37:31
That's what they're there for.
They're saying we get no money
37:33
for this. The contracts over in
October. I think that's what it
37:37
is. Contract. They didn't renew.
Yeah. Especially when you hear
37:41
that the Pentagon, again,
discovered another one of those
37:45
nasty accounting errors.
37:47
John C Dvorak: Oh, yeah, they
just did keep. That's why they
37:50
better audit. The Pentagon.
Yeah, six point they can't keep
37:57
track of another 6 billion.
37:59
Adam Curry: It's amazing. I'm so
happy for Ukraine comes right in
38:03
time now that Blinken just said
oh, we got another bill hanging
38:07
around. He just He is big swing
and Dick over there. And in
38:11
London air. I got some money.
Let me throw another bill out
38:16
there no problem. So that's what
I mean by distraction of the
38:21
week and we're all looking at
submarines and we're all looking
38:24
at lab grown chicken meat,
brood. brood chicken. The elites
38:30
are literally dividing up the
spoils of war already. They know
38:35
they know that on our dime.
Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And I
38:41
have more about that later. But
you seem to have a lot of
38:44
interesting topics too. So I
want you to jump in. Give us
38:47
some goods.
38:51
John C Dvorak: It's gone with
the flow.
38:52
Adam Curry: Yeah, baby. Yeah.
That's why I'm handing over the
38:55
flow to you.
38:55
John C Dvorak: So I'm going with
I got a bunch of Biden clips
38:58
again. Sorry about that I used
to do to screwball kick talk
39:03
clips.
39:05
Adam Curry: life just gets
better.
39:07
John C Dvorak: But I do have a
kind of a three parter on
39:11
digital currency. They brought
an expert on Oh, and I think
39:16
there's NTD and I thought it
would be worth listening to
39:21
these three clips. Because
there's they're all They're
39:24
educational or not exciting, but
they bring us at least because
39:27
you keep bringing it up.
39:29
Adam Curry: I do. Yes. I do.
Keep bringing it up. I thought
39:31
John C Dvorak: we'd at least get
some somebody that knew they
39:34
were talking about
39:35
Adam Curry: like me. So thanks.
39:39
John C Dvorak: No, there's
either pretty much on the same
39:41
wavelength but he's this guy's a
little different. But let's
39:44
start with the with the intro,
which is just a short intro to
39:47
the other two clips. The
International
39:49
Unknown: Monetary Fund is
working on a platform for
39:52
central bank digital currencies.
The managing director argues
39:56
that the digital currencies
shouldn't be fragmented by
39:58
nation What are the concerns
with the IMF pushing for digital
40:02
currency and to the business as
Don moss speaks to an expert in
40:06
this field
40:07
Adam Curry: now before you move
into your clips, interestingly
40:10
enough, I got the 36 second clip
from the IMF director, she was
40:15
not arguing she was stating a
fact. And I'll play that now
40:19
just for for color if we
40:21
Unknown: are to be successful.
CB DCS could not be fragmented
40:28
national propositions. To have
transactions more efficient and
40:34
fairer, we need systems that
connect countries. In other
40:38
words, we need interoperability.
And for this reason that the IMF
40:43
we are working hard on the
concept of a global cbdc
40:48
platform, to trade and to manage
risks and my colleague, to be as
40:54
Adrian will talk more about it
later.
40:57
Adam Curry: Yeah. So
interoperability of the central
41:00
bank, digital currencies. That's
what the IMF is talking about.
41:03
Yeah.
41:03
John C Dvorak: My comment is
that is this.
41:10
Adam Curry: I love it. I love
that you got some some experts
41:13
in on this.
41:15
John C Dvorak: Okay, so let's
talk about this. And the stuff
41:18
that we're trying to do with
this with this guy they bring in
41:21
the guy may not be any good, but
he seems like he sounds like he
41:25
has has a handle on it.
41:28
Unknown: And here with me as
Thomas Hogan, senior research
41:31
faculty at the American
Institute for Economic Research,
41:34
so the International Monetary
Fund wants a platform for its
41:38
central bank digital currencies.
Now, before we get into the pros
41:42
and cons, I just want you to
explain to me, what does it what
41:45
does it mean, exactly, to have a
global cbdc? Platform?
41:49
Yeah, that's right. It's a good
question. Because I think this
41:51
has been kind of misreported in
some of the articles that I've
41:54
seen online because of the lack
of clarity about what we mean by
41:58
platform. So sometimes, when we
talk about Central Bank, digital
42:02
currency, we mean, the the
platform is the currency itself.
42:06
Like, for example, if the US
were to introduce a cbdc, we
42:09
might call that the platform or
in Europe, if they're doing one,
42:12
maybe that cbdc is the platform.
But that's not really what we
42:16
mean here, we mean, a place
where people could trade
42:20
different currencies, different
CBDCs. So for example, I think
42:24
we can make a distinction, if
I'm an American traveling in
42:26
Europe, and there are some
stores that maybe accept US
42:30
dollars, maybe I go into a store
and I say, Hey, do you accept
42:34
dollars or euros? That's a
question of the currency itself,
42:37
not a question of the platform.
If they say they accept only
42:40
euros, then I have to say, Okay,
well, do you take a Visa card?
42:44
You know, or can I transfer from
my my debit card, where my bank
42:47
is going to switch from dollars
into Euros? Or do I personally
42:51
need to go to a bank and trade
physical dollars for physical
42:53
euros? You know, that question
of how to get from one currency
42:56
into the other is really what
they're talking about for the
42:59
platform here. The IMF itself is
not going to launch central bank
43:03
digital currency, just help
coordinate trade of different
43:05
types of currencies.
43:07
Adam Curry: Yeah, I think I
agree with what he's saying.
43:08
That's I didn't think IMF was
actually was the clip itself had
43:13
the title. IMF says global
currency was like, No, that's
43:18
not what she said. Yeah, my
trading platform. Okay. Yeah,
43:21
that makes sense.
43:23
John C Dvorak: Just to clarify
it, you know, as it kind of
43:26
clarified, okay, so let's go to
part three, we'll be done.
43:30
Unknown: So what concerns comes
with is if there is any, yeah,
43:33
so
43:34
I am not concerned about the
platform itself. Like I said, I
43:38
don't think the IMF is really
going to have a lot of control
43:40
over that. And so they probably,
you know, won't have much
43:45
influence other than promoting
CBDCs. And that's really the
43:49
thing that I'm a little bit more
concerned about is that, you
43:51
know, the IMF is trying to
encourage countries to use CBDCs
43:55
in the United States or a bigger
country when we might not worry
43:58
about the government misusing
that. I mean, we should worry a
44:01
little bit in the United States,
but much more of a concern in
44:04
China, where the government is
using it to monitor all of their
44:08
citizens. So for a lot of the
countries that are trying to get
44:11
better capabilities, the IMF is
going to potentially be
44:14
equipping them with ways to
monitor their citizens and
44:17
control their citizens. And so
I'm a little bit worried about
44:20
that.
44:20
So you said in the US, we should
still be a little bit worried
44:24
about cbdc. Can you expand on
that?
44:27
Yeah, so the United States is
considering doing some kind of
44:31
central bank digital currency,
we haven't really committed to
44:33
anything. The US Federal
Reserve, the Central Bank of the
44:36
United States is studying how
they might implement a central
44:39
bank digital currency. But so
far, they they are not planning
44:43
to do one that would be directly
offered to us citizens. And so
44:48
that's a really important
distinction that almost all the
44:50
countries the plan is to have
individual citizens use it just
44:54
like they use regular currency.
But in the United States, the
44:57
Federal Reserve has said they
actually don't think that they
44:59
have Have the ability legally to
do that. All they could legally
45:03
do right now, as far as they're
currently saying is offered to
45:06
banks, which would then offer
some kind of digital currency to
45:10
the citizens, which is
essentially what they do. Now,
45:12
you know, the Fed already has a
digital system for for
45:16
coordinating bank payments and
having banks deposit money at
45:18
the Fed, making payments with
the Fed. And so having a central
45:22
bank, digital currency that's
only offered to the banking
45:24
system really wouldn't be much
different than we have now. But
45:28
there is some possibility that
they might change their policy
45:31
or that Congress might authorize
them to offer a central bank
45:35
digital currency directly to the
public. And if that happens,
45:38
then that'll be a lot different.
And I think we'll need to worry
45:40
about it a little bit more.
45:41
Adam Curry: I agree. I agree
that the Federal Reserve doesn't
45:44
have that can't do that legally,
what they are and Chris, you
45:47
mentioned in there, well, they
will Congress that I guess
45:50
Congress could change that they
have the right of
45:53
John C Dvorak: Congress hates
us.
45:56
Adam Curry: What the Fed is
launching next month is fed now.
46:00
And that's their that's so they
will be the direct clearing
46:03
house, it will go initially
through bank so you will get
46:07
your fed now account from your
bank. But you can pay I can pay
46:11
you directly. And we'll go
through the Fed now network and
46:15
the transaction costs will be
four cents per transaction no
46:20
matter what size it is, which is
it's kind of going to screw up
46:24
other systems. And we'll see.
We'll see where that goes. This
46:30
is interesting in the backdrop
of the SEC, basically clearing
46:35
out all shit coins, all these
man what they call an
46:39
unregistered securities, which I
agree with they are and then all
46:43
of a sudden, Blackrock last week
of this past week, registering
46:48
for a Bitcoin ETF. And this
magical exchange appears backed
46:55
by the Deutsche Bank and other
Wall Street banks called edX and
47:01
they're going to be an exchange.
So the in the Bitcoin, you know,
47:04
spiked like 10% on all this
news. I don't know there's some
47:08
it feels like there's something
going on, especially when Black
47:10
Rock enters it. See,
47:13
John C Dvorak: I don't know bad
actors.
47:15
Adam Curry: I don't think Black
Rock is a good actor, for sure.
47:18
For sure, we'll see. But yeah,
you don't need it to be a
47:21
central bank digital currency,
if you're doing the transfer and
47:24
the Fed. Now, their own material
says this is handy. Because if
47:30
we have another COVID Like
event, then we don't have to
47:35
wait for those pesky checks.
We'll just put it right into
47:38
your account. So it's the same
thing. And now that there's no
47:43
ceiling on the debt we're primed
we need another
47:51
John C Dvorak: didn't get pesky
checks. They got it straight
47:53
into their account.
47:55
Adam Curry: That's just telling
what they say. They're saying
48:00
that's it. That's their
marketing is if we ever need to
48:03
send out checks again then you
won't have to do that at all.
48:06
You just go straight into your
fed now account through your
48:09
bank. So I thought a lot of
those checks went I thought a
48:15
lot of the money went through
checks. I don't know
48:17
John C Dvorak: anyone who got a
check. Hey guys straight into
48:20
her account.
48:21
Adam Curry: She did. Christina
got one in Europe, mind you that
48:24
was in she's in Europe, and but
the stepdaughters got it got
48:28
checks. They didn't. They
didn't.
48:30
John C Dvorak: I don't know
anyone who got a check out here.
48:34
Adam Curry: Some trolls are
saying they got checks. Some
48:37
Some say they got to I didn't
get no check. I get no check.
48:42
Oh, I do Biden because then I
want to play some
48:43
counterprogramming to Biden.
48:47
John C Dvorak: Here's Biden in
California. This was like a
48:49
couple days ago.
48:51
Unknown: And I've toured many
sites across the country.
48:54
They're clearly show climate
changes is a genuine x is the
48:58
existential threat to humanity,
the existential threat to
49:02
humanity and maybe most
important, I've committed that
49:05
by 2020. We will have conserved
30% Of all the lands and waters
49:12
the United States has
jurisdiction over and
49:14
simultaneously reduce emissions
to blunt climate impacts.
49:18
Adam Curry: Did he say 2020?
Yeah.
49:22
John C Dvorak: Poor guy 2020
We're gonna have this these
49:25
changes
49:25
Adam Curry: going back in time.
Okay, great. Love it.
49:31
John C Dvorak: Now I got Biden
misspelled here in this clip
49:33
this bite does the Biden ramble.
It has a bunch of different
49:36
things in it
49:37
Unknown: and a cheer for
Missouri for each year for
49:40
Muslim athletes like Kareem
Abdul Jabbar I know I'm gonna
49:48
zip mispronouncing Congress Omar
word, Congresswoman Omar. There
49:53
you go. God love you. Another
Muslim. I'm not supposed to get
49:56
in trouble for saying this
project. Beautiful. Congressman,
50:02
where's Where's where's the
congressman? There you are.
50:04
Okay, so do you want a job man?
I appoint all those federal
50:11
judges but you know, thank you
for serving. I'm not kidding.
50:16
You want to come and make a
speech? Hush up, boy.
50:22
Adam Curry: Whoa, who do you say
that to? Some black guy a black
50:26
guy? No, he did not did not hush
up boy. Wow, was this was this
50:33
one of these things where he was
talking and called she a
50:38
dictator?
50:40
John C Dvorak: Yeah, I don't
have that clip I wish well
50:43
here's
50:43
Adam Curry: I have the quick
50:44
Unknown: tonight a new
Flashpoint between the US and
50:46
China after President Biden
called China's President Xi a
50:50
dictator at a fundraising event.
China blasting the comments as
50:54
absurd and irresponsible.
50:56
Adam Curry: Yeah, call him a
dictator. Hmm, not good. Not
51:01
good.
51:03
John C Dvorak: That's what I got
here is I don't know if this is
51:06
the same as the California clip.
But is Biden in San Francisco.
51:09
Unknown: President Biden land in
Silicon Valley? Yes.
51:12
John C Dvorak: This is just a
rundown. Okay, President Mazal
51:15
play it.
51:16
Unknown: President Biden landed
in Silicon Valley yesterday and
51:19
announced a $600 million
national plan for climate
51:23
issues. Today. He met with tech
executives and people in the
51:27
industry to discuss artificial
intelligence including how to
51:31
seize its opportunity and manage
its risks.
51:34
My administration is committed
as committed to safeguarding
51:37
Americans rights and safety from
protecting privacy to addressing
51:41
bias and disinformation to
making sure AI systems are safe
51:46
before they are released. Yeah,
51:48
okay as the President Biden was
in San Francisco for his 2024
51:52
presidential campaign, he's also
visiting several locations in
51:55
the North Bay, including the
cities of Canfield and Larkspur,
51:59
a White House official said
Biden summit include experts
52:03
known for being outspoken on the
impact of AI on jobs, children,
52:08
bias and prejudice and the risks
posed by AI, if it isn't
52:12
properly regulated, and added
that quote, US government
52:16
agencies have ramped up their
authorities to protect Americans
52:20
from the risks posed by AI,
including fraud and
52:23
discrimination,
52:25
as I've said before, where we'll
see more technological change in
52:29
the next 10 years than we've
seen in the last 50 years. And
52:33
maybe beyond that,
52:35
according to the President's
schedule. Biden has a campaign
52:38
reception on Tuesday evening,
52:40
Adam Curry: I find this very
interesting, this rhetoric about
52:45
AI and, and the government
agencies are ramping up to
52:50
protect Silicon Valley, no
doubt. But also, I think this
52:53
Altman character, Sam Altman, I
think he's being positioned to
52:57
be the new Elon Musk. He's got a
lot of other things go on. He's
53:01
got like, fusion energy
projects, and he's doing all
53:05
these other things. You watch
this guy is going to be the new,
53:08
the new tech hero, as Elon
53:12
John C Dvorak: he doesn't have
the personality for it. I'll
53:13
just say flat out
53:15
Adam Curry: and Elon Musk does.
Yeah. No, Altman's Okay. Well,
53:21
it may fail, but I think they're
going to try this. Yeah. And you
53:26
know, and
53:28
Unknown: this, this,
53:30
John C Dvorak: like, just like
Zuckerberg, he's he's just an
53:32
app personality for anything
other than what he's doing.
53:36
Adam Curry: So RF, the number of
53:39
John C Dvorak: people in tech
over the years and watching it
53:42
from the get go, I will say
there's been so few, I mean, and
53:47
when they crop up, they're just
accolades go their way.
53:51
Everything goes their way me I
can go back to the days of
53:54
people like Chuck Peddle. Oh,
was Chuck Peddle Chuck pills ago
53:59
designed to 6502 chip, the
original chip used in the Apple
54:02
two computer and he was he was a
hell of a personality. You had
54:07
Steve Jobs to some extent
Wozniak has a personality
54:10
Adam Curry: bill. Gates had a
personality whether you like it
54:13
or not.
54:15
John C Dvorak: Bill Gates does
have a personality. And Ballmer
54:19
has a personality even though it
would nobody liked his
54:21
personality.
54:22
Adam Curry: All developers loved
him.
54:27
John C Dvorak: And Felipe Khan
was a suit. Yeah, remember? I
54:31
mean, he's gonna build kind of a
couple of empires out of
54:35
nothing. And he was in the
public eye but these guys could
54:40
speak they could do public
speaking and they could do all
54:43
these things. They weren't just
you know, reticent. No, jet. I
54:46
want to talk.
54:47
Adam Curry: Now. We'll see Sam
Altman talks. He's he goes on
54:51
all the podcasts and, and he
went and did his thing before
54:54
Congress. He was it was
interesting. It was full of
54:56
crap, but I know he's just all
I'm seeing is a lot of
55:00
businesses that have government
involvement and lying. Okay?
55:03
Just keep your eye on them. So
RFK Jr did a speech in New
55:07
Hampshire. And I want to play a
couple clips from it, because
55:11
he's taking a totally different
approach to running for
55:15
president. And of course, he is
blocked entirely whenever anyone
55:20
who's blocked by the mainstream
is always interesting to us.
55:24
After the the whole Rogan
challenge he, missy, you wonder
55:30
what is the headline? I had Los
Angeles Times Robert F. Kennedy
55:35
and the lies of the anti vaxxers
know. So that's kind of how
55:39
they're positioning
55:40
John C Dvorak: or if can make a
huge mistake.
55:43
Adam Curry: Well, if he could
get the you know what Trump did,
55:47
right? Is he because of all the
stuff he did? They gave him all
55:51
this attention, then I don't
think the mainstream will do
55:53
that for RFK. But RFK has
already said, Jr. has already
55:57
said, no, no, this election will
be one on podcast which I
56:01
John C Dvorak: I'm of the
opinion that in 2016 Even though
56:06
their podcast and that I don't
think the media scene was that
56:09
different? I kind of agree with
him. I think it to me because of
56:14
after Trump and and a few years
of Biden, the mainstream media
56:19
has, people are just looking
askance at it a lot more than
56:23
they did in 2016. And 2016. They
did to it a little bit, but not
56:27
like this, that people just
don't believe these. Yes. Media
56:32
is in a downward spiral.
56:35
Adam Curry: Yeah. And with
almost no ratings and be no
56:37
one's watching it. So I think
the if, if if true, then his
56:41
breakthrough was probably Rogan,
although that also brings up all
56:44
these, you know, he's
incredible. He's an anti Vaxxer,
56:47
even his family hates him, oh,
pay attention. So he does what I
56:53
think is a pretty important
speech. And for a couple of
56:56
reasons. One, his voice is much
better. I think we are
57:00
determined years ago, when he
starts talking a lot than his
57:04
affliction gets better. And he's
also invoking John F. Kennedy,
57:10
and a lot and of the days almost
like that, not the Camelot part,
57:16
but the peace part. And so he
had this, it was in look at it
57:20
in the show notes about 45
minutes. And he does this entire
57:25
spiel about the wages of war.
And he says, what's really
57:29
happening is if you have war
outside your home all the time,
57:34
then that is going to bring war
inside your home and literally
57:38
inside your home. And that was
that was pretty
57:42
John C Dvorak: interesting. I
will make a quick comment here
57:44
on this. Generally speaking,
except, you know, during these
57:50
moments of huge amounts of
propaganda American the American
57:54
public is anti war. Yes. And
that's how Obama got elected.
57:59
The Iraqi war was going on and
Obama ran in 20 Whatever 2008 I
58:05
guess Yeah. On a peace platform,
you can take it to the bank.
58:10
Yeah. If he was gonna get us out
of the Iraqi war or he was gonna
58:15
get on him obey he was gonna do
this was gonna do as a total
58:20
peace platform, and the
Democrats really are the
58:24
peaceniks, generally speaking,
it's only recently that we've
58:27
had this kind of crossover. And
then they still have the
58:31
peacenik bug. The fact that the
Democrats are the biggest war
58:35
mongers I've ever seen, of late,
is kind of a surprise. And I
58:41
think Kennedy can bring him back
to the norm or mount normalcy.
58:45
Adam Curry: Well, there's not
going to be any debates. So
58:47
there'll be no exposure. Who
knows how corrupt the actual
58:51
voting systems are? There's a
lot of disbelief and those
58:54
across the board, I mean, if you
look at any poll, right or left
58:58
John C Dvorak: driving and Gavin
Newsom is also the wildcard
59:02
here,
59:02
Adam Curry: though, and we'll
leave him there but this Kennedy
59:04
cat, he's got a rap that is if
if the Kennedy cat if people
59:09
hear him, Hey, man, you know,
he's from like, the Kennedy cat
59:13
era, man, you know what I'm
saying, bro? They get a dig,
59:18
man, I dig the Kennedy cap. So
he so the whole setup is this
59:22
wages of war. And he talks
about, you know, if you're, if
59:25
you're warring with, you know,
if you think everyone's evil,
59:28
and you're gonna have that
insight, you're gonna bring that
59:30
home, right into your actual
very home, you will have this
59:34
kind of division that so I'll
play a clip that kind of is the
59:36
end of that. schpeel. And the
question now is, are we willing
59:40
to do anything like that today?
Or are we remained stuck in a
59:45
self righteous story in which
America is categorically good?
59:49
At our poll, opponents are
irredeemably evil. If we remain
59:53
stuck there, so will every other
nation it's not only America
59:57
that's falling and falling into
this employee. Stick good guy,
1:00:00
bad guy thinking. That's the
example we've set for everybody
1:00:05
in the world, a wonder it's been
replicated everywhere between
1:00:08
Israel and Iran between India
and Pakistan, between Shia and
1:00:13
Sunni between Jew and Arab,
between Hindus and Muslims left
1:00:17
and right, between pro life and
pro choice between facts and
1:00:22
anti facts, this tribalistic us
versus them thinking is tearing
1:00:28
us apart. And it's a rousing
round of applause. I think was
1:00:37
at a school, the university so
people like whatever I heard,
1:00:42
there was like people, yeah,
wait a minute that you've seen
1:00:44
some good there. So now he
invokes and gives us a bit of a
1:00:48
history lesson about his uncle,
he talked more about his uncle
1:00:52
John F. Kennedy than his dad,
Robert F. Kennedy. And about JFK
1:00:57
being an anti war president. And
it's tearing apart our country
1:01:03
and it's tearing apart the
world. So this, these are the
1:01:08
wages of war. When we take the
first step toward peace, we will
1:01:14
become once again a true world
leader, a moral leader, a moral
1:01:18
authority. And our example, it
doesn't take much. It's just the
1:01:22
first step. And people will
start looking at America
1:01:25
differently the way they did
when my uncle was president. My
1:01:29
uncle, I pointed this out.
1:01:32
Unknown: In my announcement
speech, my uncle was so
1:01:34
determined. He told us that one
of his best friends Brent, and
1:01:38
Bradley said to him, What do you
want on your as your epithet on
1:01:42
your gravestone and he said, he
kept the peace, he said, and
1:01:46
Bradley asked him to explain
that he said, the primary job of
1:01:51
an American president is to keep
the country out of war, as what
1:01:55
he said and during
1:01:59
Adam Curry: not happened
recently.
1:02:02
Unknown: During his time in the
White House, he was surrounded
1:02:06
by military talk hawks and his
intelligence apparatus, his
1:02:09
military brass, wanted it who
were constantly exhorting him to
1:02:15
go to war in Laos, in Berlin, in
Cuba, in Vietnam, and he'd never
1:02:22
sent a single combat troop
abroad during his term in
1:02:25
office. He ultimately wanted to
send 250,000 combat troops to
1:02:31
Vietnam, he ended up sending
16,000 advisors who are not
1:02:34
under the rules of engagement
allowed to participate in
1:02:37
combat. That's fewer people,
fewer men. And he sent James
1:02:42
Meredith one black man until Ole
Miss University of Mississippi
1:02:45
in Jackson. Okay, now I'd like
to say to that advisors, we know
1:02:50
what that is. That's bullcrap.
military advisors are they're
1:02:54
saying, All right, now you point
it there. Okay. And you pull the
1:02:59
trigger here. So, the JFK got
duped, but I guess he was an
1:03:04
anti war president. And I'll
give Trump that truth to Trump
1:03:09
didn't didn't get us into war.
He was going to pull us out
1:03:13
didn't but he at least, you
know, he went and talked to Kim
1:03:16
Jong Hoon. He went and talked to
Putin. Crazy. He's insane. He
1:03:21
must be in cahoots with him to
now RFK Putin. Now RFK gives us
1:03:27
a history and a timeline. That
is important to remember and is
1:03:32
probably the reason why Ron Paul
says you know, that's when when
1:03:37
we'd lost the country was with
the killing of JFK. And this is
1:03:41
this goes back to one of our
favorite clips, he won't he'll
1:03:44
he'll talk about the clip, but
also about an important
1:03:46
presidential order a month
before he died in October of
1:03:51
1963. He heard that a that a
Greenbrae had died in Vietnam,
1:03:58
and he asked one of his aides to
give him a total casualty list.
1:04:02
And the aid came back and the
casualty list had 75 Americans
1:04:07
on it who had died in Vietnam
and he said that's too much.
1:04:11
We're not going to have a single
more American died at a high
1:04:16
national security order to 63
that ordered every true every US
1:04:20
US service person home from
Vietnam was the first 1000
1:04:24
Leaving the next month and
beginning of November and and
1:04:30
that he died a month later. And
a week after his death. That
1:04:35
order was remanded and President
Johnson ended up spending. I
1:04:39
think 250,000 troops by
President Johnson President
1:04:43
Johnson ended up sending 250,000
troops. Ultimately
1:04:47
560,000 56,000 never came home
including my cousin George
1:04:52
Skakel who died in the Tet
Offensive and we killed a
1:04:56
million Vietnamese and You know,
we had, we've we've been going
1:05:04
off on this path with the
military industrial complex,
1:05:08
which President Eisenhower
warned about a week before him
1:05:11
or three days before my uncle
took off, it's in the best
1:05:14
speech that he ever gave in one
of the most important moment in
1:05:17
history where he warned America.
If we did not take great pains
1:05:24
to avoid the millet, the
emerging Military Industrial
1:05:27
Complex would devour our
democracy would destroy American
1:05:30
values from within. And my uncle
knew that he knew that speech
1:05:33
and he spent the three years is
1000 days in office, fighting
1:05:38
against the rise the military
industrial complex after his
1:05:41
death, we went down that path
that Eisenhower predicted and
1:05:45
that's where we are today. And
it's time now to reverse that.
1:05:48
It's time.
1:05:51
Adam Curry: Somebody likes it.
So I'm listening. I'm listening
1:05:56
to this guy. And he goes into
all of this stuff is like the
1:06:01
military industrial complex. And
it's like listening to 15 years
1:06:05
of no agenda clips. It really is
into one. And yeah, it rolled
1:06:10
into one and, and pretty
concise. And he does it well.
1:06:15
And he talks about how we
promised and he says Baker
1:06:18
promise we all promised not one
inch towards the east with NATO.
1:06:22
And he says no, we didn't do one
inch we did 1000 miles. And
1:06:25
we've completely surrounded
Russia. And you know, he talks
1:06:28
about another one of his uncle
speeches where he said, you
1:06:32
know, hey, you know, we didn't
win World War Two, the Russians
1:06:36
did, the Russians defeated the
Germans or you're weaken them
1:06:39
enough. So we could go into
Berlin, which is true, which is
1:06:42
historical fact. And, and then
he rolls out. And it's funny
1:06:47
because his his head is so in
those days that he instead of
1:06:50
Boris Johnson, he says, Boris
Yeltsin.
1:06:56
Unknown: He doesn't he doesn't
correct himself. But he calls
1:06:59
out something else we knew we
now have such a distorted and
1:07:02
desperate view of the other
side. We won't even speak to
1:07:06
them to see conflict as
inevitable as become the
1:07:09
cornerstone of US foreign
policy. Two or three decades
1:07:14
ago, it was the clash of
civilization between Islam and
1:07:17
the West. Today, those legions
of think tanks that are funded
1:07:21
by the defense industry exhort
us to prepare for the inevitable
1:07:25
war with China. A war is
inevitable only if we make it
1:07:30
inevitable.
1:07:38
The war in Ukraine could have
been avoided even as late now we
1:07:42
now know as spring of 2022 when
US officials sent Boris Yeltsin
1:07:49
to have to scuttle peace talks
between Ukraine and Russia a
1:07:53
peace agreement they had already
signed. And not only that Russia
1:07:57
had already begun removing its
troops from the key area, we now
1:08:00
know this war was this war was
not inevitable. It was the
1:08:06
creation of a relentless
mentality of foreign domination.
1:08:10
There you go. She said, yell,
somebody meant Boris Johnson,
1:08:13
because that's true. Boris
Johnson
1:08:16
John C Dvorak: brought that
document out, slashed into front
1:08:20
of the cameras showed the
initials and said this, this was
1:08:23
a peace agreement. And it was
never it was the Russians were
1:08:28
implementing it. But then it
turns out that we go to the
1:08:32
Ukrainians and forget that.
1:08:36
Adam Curry: So and so his
strategy he has I don't think
1:08:39
either way.
1:08:40
John C Dvorak: I'm sorry. But by
the way, that is scandalous that
1:08:44
the mainstream does not harp on
1:08:46
Adam Curry: that, because
they're all part of it. This is
1:08:48
way down that Pantelis is
scandalous, scandalous.
1:08:52
Scandalous, I tell you what so
so his strategy, he doesn't seem
1:09:00
to have a ground game he doesn't
if you go to the RFK or Kennedy
1:09:04
20 four.com website, there's no
bumper stickers, there's no yard
1:09:08
signs and some T shirts. No
agenda shop has more than his
1:09:13
shop. So I guess his strategies
podcast which I know they may it
1:09:19
may work he's going on a lot of
them he's going everywhere he
1:09:22
can i We could probably get him
one I have one I have RFK Jr who
1:09:25
grill him. Grill well grill him
we want to deal
1:09:32
John C Dvorak: with the defense
industries and Big Pharma
1:09:38
combined against him. It's very
hard to mention the intelligence
1:09:42
community very which doesn't
have to do anything in this
1:09:44
case. DEA has got a prayer
they're just pounding with the
1:09:49
with the with the overriding
propaganda is an act die Vax nut
1:09:54
ball that shouldn't be taken
seriously. And the fact that And
1:10:00
then the public will see that
he's not taken seriously by the
1:10:02
mainstream media, which is the
third element of this trifecta
1:10:06
of, of evil doers does is is the
fact that he's got 25% Now in
1:10:15
terms of people that say they
might want to vote for him is a
1:10:18
miracle. If it goes higher than
that, I'm going to be stunned.
1:10:23
Adam Curry: He says he has 25%
That's according to
1:10:27
John C Dvorak: one source. Yeah.
25% That's the Democrats are the
1:10:30
Democrats. Okay?
1:10:31
Adam Curry: Well, I'm hearing a
lot of Trump errs going, hey,
1:10:34
yeah, we need Trump and Kennedy
ticket that'll do it. I'm like
1:10:38
dream on. That'll never never,
never. But I have to say this
1:10:44
anti war message might connect
if enough people are killed. I
1:10:50
mean, you're right it's there's
still 30% of the world at least
1:10:53
the United States for sure who
are walking around with you have
1:10:56
masks on in the car, there's so
mind control. But when you go in
1:11:00
and I was watching
1:11:01
John C Dvorak: some TV, local TV
thing, and they had they were
1:11:04
interviewing a couple that owned
a restaurant and so ever no
1:11:07
one's wearing a mask except the
restaurant owners. And there are
1:11:10
a couple it's like they're
married and they're wearing
1:11:13
masks sitting next to each
other.
1:11:17
Adam Curry: No, he did have a an
appearance on Newsmax with Greta
1:11:22
Van Susteren, my how the mighty
have fallen.
1:11:26
John C Dvorak: And this is just,
this is almost a carnival, the
1:11:28
why
1:11:28
Adam Curry: and this is about
bio weapons.
1:11:31
Unknown: But what what I worry
about is is a WMD like a virus
1:11:35
like a gain of function
something? Do you worry of
1:11:38
Greta, you ignorant sloth about
that? Because I see that as sort
1:11:42
of the next the next big fight
because, you know, those viruses
1:11:45
don't see any borders. And
they're relatively cheap to do
1:11:49
this gain of function. I mean,
it's just that's what I worry
1:11:52
about more than the big
hardware.
1:11:56
Yeah, you're exactly right. And
we know that the Chinese are
1:12:01
developing ethnic bio weapons or
bio weapons that are designed to
1:12:04
attack people of certain racial
types. And the and we're doing
1:12:09
the same thing. We've been
collecting Chinese DNA. We've
1:12:13
been collecting Russian DNA
specifically for that it is arms
1:12:17
race is a character to Hashmi.
You know, in 1969, we had
1:12:23
developed by then nucular
equivalency with bio weapons, so
1:12:27
we could eliminate the same
numbers of people with bio
1:12:30
weapons, I think 29 cents a
death, they calculated the
1:12:34
Defense Department and the CIA
calculated at that time.
1:12:39
President Nixon did the most
extraordinary thing. He went to
1:12:42
Fort Dietrich, and he said we
are unilaterally ending the bio
1:12:47
weapons arms race, we are giving
up all of our bio weapons, we're
1:12:50
going to destroy them. We're
going to disable the capacity at
1:12:53
Fort Dietrich, and we're not
going to make them anymore. And
1:12:57
three years later, almost all
the nations on the earth signed
1:13:01
a charter stopping bio weapons
production and and the problem
1:13:05
was, the CIA continued to do
secret bio weapons production
1:13:10
our country, the Russians found
out about that and rejigged
1:13:13
their program. And then after
2001, we passed the Patriot Act,
1:13:19
which reopened the arms race,
which basically cancelled out
1:13:23
Nixon's 1979 agreement treaty
and launched a new bio weapons
1:13:28
arms race, and everybody else in
the world is doing it. And the
1:13:31
impacts as you point out, Greta
are horrific. Yeah. And then
1:13:35
there we are with COVID, whether
it was Wuhan lime for Dietrich,
1:13:41
and wherever it came from,
everyone's pointing the finger
1:13:43
at trios where they do it. And
then of course, we know now that
1:13:48
there were quite a few us
admitted by Vicki Nuland, US Bio
1:13:54
Labs in Ukraine. Yeah, that's
the kicker and check it out. So
1:13:58
the Russian defense ministry
gave a briefing on US military
1:14:03
and biological activity and they
have they have receipts they
1:14:06
showed documents acquired when
they when they went into all the
1:14:10
Bio Labs and you know, scooped
1:14:12
John C Dvorak: up they overran
them scooped up the document
1:14:14
read that fast
1:14:15
Adam Curry: documents acquired
during the special military
1:14:17
operation proved the Walter Reed
Army Institute of Research
1:14:21
connection to the US Defense
Threat Reduction Agency and its
1:14:24
key contractor. The meta biota
company, admitted by Oda was the
1:14:31
company that Hunter Biden played
a role in funding for these Bio
1:14:35
Labs in Ukraine. I mean, this
stinks to high hell, all of it.
1:14:41
John C Dvorak: Well, let's stop
there for a second and consider
1:14:45
something I'm like, constantly
consider, which is that the
1:14:50
whole Hunter Biden episode, the
craziness, and then there's
1:14:55
recent slap on the wrist and all
the rest of it and all the stuff
1:14:59
that You know, Biden supposedly
did, it just sounds so much like
1:15:04
that, sonny, that guy that used
to be the gangster in Boston
1:15:08
that was working for the FBI
1:15:10
Adam Curry: with Whitey Bolger
Whitey Bolger.
1:15:14
John C Dvorak: And it's just as
though they've given these guys
1:15:17
have been working for the FBI
CIA who knows who, and they're
1:15:22
covered. That's why the DOJ,
nothing is ever coming of any of
1:15:25
this. There's got to be a reason
that nobody is doing anything
1:15:30
about the comer investigation
where they're finding all this
1:15:34
money flowing into the Biden
family and Biden living in these
1:15:37
mansions. And it's just,
there's, there's absolutely
1:15:42
zipping done. There has to be a
reason is not because Biden is a
1:15:46
nice guy.
1:15:47
Adam Curry: No, no. I think
Hunter Biden is the key. If they
1:15:51
unravel that guy, they unravel a
lot. He's covered. Yeah, well,
1:15:56
John C Dvorak: let's listen to
happening.
1:15:57
Adam Curry: Let's listen to the
pixie girl on the Central
1:15:59
Intelligence Broadcast Systems.
1:16:00
Unknown: As part of the Hunter
Biden plea agreement. Three
1:16:03
charges were filed in a Delaware
court to misdemeanor counts of
1:16:06
willful failure to pay federal
income tax on annual earnings in
1:16:10
excess of $1.5 million. A third
count possession of a handgun by
1:16:15
a drug user would be dismissed
if Biden remains drug free and
1:16:19
commits no additional crimes
during a specified time period.
1:16:23
A source familiar with the term
said Biden's legal team expects
1:16:27
probation not jail time, though
final approval rests with the
1:16:30
judge.
1:16:31
I think the judge is going to do
what's fair. And I think what's
1:16:34
fair is, you know, my client
gets on with his life.
1:16:39
David Weiss, the US Attorney in
Delaware who led the probe was
1:16:43
appointed by then President
Trump and left in place by the
1:16:46
Biden administration. In a
statement why said the
1:16:49
investigation is ongoing. But
Hunter Biden's team sees it
1:16:52
differently. My understanding is
that we're done. Traveling in
1:16:56
California President Biden was
asked about the news
1:16:59
and we're proud of our son.
1:17:02
Adam Curry: That's the court of
the century.
1:17:06
Unknown: The news I'm very proud
of my son.
1:17:09
Hunter Biden spoke about the
federal investigation on CBS
1:17:12
Sunday Morning.
1:17:13
I'm cooperating completely and
I'm absolutely certain 100%
1:17:18
certain of the investigation
that I will be cleared 100
1:17:24
frickin
1:17:25
percent.
1:17:26
Democrats hailed the agreement
as a sign of the Justice
1:17:29
Department's independence
Republicans cried foul. Former
1:17:32
President Donald Trump arraigned
on criminal charges last week,
1:17:36
said Hunter Biden was given a
mere traffic ticket.
1:17:39
Do you think this is another
example of a two tiered system
1:17:41
of justice in America?
1:17:42
Republican Congressman James
Comer leads the House Oversight
1:17:45
Committee, which is investigate
by
1:17:47
Adam Curry: the way I love how
they do this. So you know, they
1:17:49
pull in Biden quote, I'm very
proud of my son. And President
1:17:52
Trump said and all they do is
the question they don't do the
1:17:55
answer. Just the question,
1:17:56
Unknown: Said Hunter Biden was
given a mere traffic ticket.
1:17:59
You think this is another
example of a two tiered system
1:18:01
of justice in America Republican
content, even
1:18:04
Adam Curry: his answer? This
isn't this is incredible
1:18:07
reporting. Trump said this, but
we only hear that the question
1:18:10
Unknown: will trump the range on
criminal
1:18:12
John C Dvorak: where they're
structuring it? Yeah, it's
1:18:14
Unknown: good charges last week,
said Hunter Biden was given a
1:18:17
mere traffic ticket.
1:18:18
You think this is another
example of a two tiered system
1:18:21
of justice in America.
1:18:22
Republican Congressman James
Comer leads the House Oversight
1:18:25
Committee, which is
investigating the Biden family's
1:18:28
foreign business dealings, a
probe disputed by the White
1:18:31
House. Well, you call the US
attorney and Delaware to
1:18:36
testify. I would
1:18:37
expect the US attorney to
testify in front of the House of
1:18:40
Representatives very soon. He
needs to explain whether or not
1:18:45
his investigation is concluded.
1:18:47
Gene Rossi, a former Justice
Department official who handled
1:18:50
tax cases told CBS News that
failure to pay tax on more than
1:18:54
$3 million, even though now
repaid is a serious violation.
1:18:58
If this were
1:18:59
hunter Smith, instead of Hunter
Biden. I think you would have a
1:19:05
very much more aggressive
prosecution.
1:19:09
Adam Curry: So this is something
I think I feel like the country
1:19:12
is kind of locking into it's
like, hey, wait a minute, this
1:19:15
two tiered justice system, you
know, even herridge can't get
1:19:19
away from it. NBC had a
1:19:21
Unknown: shorter report. Tonight
after a five year investigation,
1:19:24
the president's son Hunter Biden
has reached a plea deal with
1:19:27
federal prosecutors to plead
guilty to two misdemeanor tax
1:19:30
charges and likely avoid prison
time. Prosecutors say Biden did
1:19:35
not pay more than $100,000 in
taxes on over $1.5 million in
1:19:40
income in both 2017 and 2018.
And two sources tell NBC News,
1:19:46
the prosecutor will recommend
probation while also agreeing
1:19:49
not to prosecute Hunter Biden
for illegally possessing a
1:19:52
firearm. Even though Biden knew
he was barred from doing so
1:19:56
because he was using drugs.
Biden faced a maximum of two
1:20:00
Well of months behind bars for
each tax charge and up to 10
1:20:03
years for owning the handgun.
1:20:05
I think what's fair is, you
know, my client gets on with his
1:20:10
life,
1:20:10
the former president tonight
accusing the Biden Justice
1:20:13
Department of giving Hunter
Biden quote, a mirror traffic
1:20:16
ticket, our system is broken.
top Republicans argue it's
1:20:20
evidence of a double standard.
1:20:22
Adam Curry: So what they've
done, Republicans and Democrats,
1:20:26
unit party people, they've moved
the conversation away from the
1:20:31
true crimes of the Biden crime
family, and all this all the Bio
1:20:36
Labs, and I mean, they are
involved. And I think what
1:20:39
happened, you know, it's a
sophisticated operation. Ukraine
1:20:42
has been used for all kinds of
things for decades and decades.
1:20:45
You know, even the, the, the the
DNC server went to Ukraine, I
1:20:51
mean, all this does with Ukraine
was just it's where you go for
1:20:54
all kinds of criminal activity.
And the problem is, the Biden
1:20:57
crime family are just Grifters.
And they screwed up. It's like,
1:21:02
oh, well, we got these guys.
They die. We can't have them
1:21:05
blow it for us. Is this is this
the Bonanza over here? We're
1:21:08
divvying up this country. We
can't have that. So let's talk
1:21:12
about dual standards. Yeah. And
then what are the Republicans
1:21:16
do? Or whatever they haul in?
And they haul in Durham? You
1:21:23
know, oh, let's talk about that.
And let's talk about how I have
1:21:26
a,
1:21:27
John C Dvorak: I have an
alternative clip of this, of the
1:21:30
hunter thing. And I don't say
please, still does the hunter
1:21:33
rundown and NTD. But I still
think that they're protected is
1:21:38
everything that we're witnessing
is just an example. And I'd like
1:21:41
to know, by the way, how you can
make $1.5 million and only pay
1:21:45
$100,000 in taxes. How does that
work?
1:21:50
Adam Curry: Well, maybe he wrote
off all the hookers and blow. I
1:21:53
mean, he could say that, like,
1:21:55
John C Dvorak: you know how you
make $1.5 million. He and He did
1:21:57
it for two years ago back who
knows how many years but those
1:22:00
two years that are under
investigation, he must have done
1:22:03
it more in just two years now.
Make a $1.5 million paid. Don't
1:22:08
pay don't even file hell with
it. Yeah. And then they they
1:22:12
bust you and you had to pay
100,000? Yeah. Does anyone do
1:22:16
the math on this?
1:22:17
Adam Curry: No. Why would we do
that? No one's paying tax except
1:22:20
us. This should
1:22:21
John C Dvorak: be 38% of the 1.5
which is at least at half. You
1:22:25
know, it's almost three or
300 500 or $500,000? Not
1:22:30
100,000? No, but
1:22:32
Adam Curry: you know, again, it
was all you know, and they
1:22:34
usually had penalties. Where's
the penalties? No, no, no, no,
1:22:37
no, no, no, no. See, that's
where instead of smelling the
1:22:41
rat people go to tear justice
system. And that's what gets
1:22:45
everybody off track. And look,
I'm still on Twitter. I see it
1:22:49
is true to Joseph says do man.
Okay,
1:22:53
Unknown: President Biden's son
Hunter plans to plead guilty to
1:22:56
two tax crimes, and has struck a
deal with federal prosecutors to
1:23:00
resolve a felony gun charge. And
today's Iris Tao brings us more
1:23:04
from the White House
1:23:05
and federal prosecutors charged
Hunter Biden was in failure to
1:23:09
pay income tax and felony gun
charge of illegally possessing a
1:23:14
firearm while knowing that he
was addicted to using drugs.
1:23:18
According to court documents,
Hunter Biden is expected to
1:23:21
enter a plea deal basically
pleading guilty to two
1:23:25
misdemeanor and tax crimes. But
when it comes to the felony gun
1:23:28
charge, he's expected to enter
what he calls a diversion
1:23:32
program through which he could
walk away with no jail time, or
1:23:36
even a felony record. If he
stays sober for two years and
1:23:40
gives us the right to ever own a
gun again,
1:23:42
if you are the president's son.
1:23:45
He will house speaker Kevin
McCarthy today criticize what he
1:23:48
calls a two tiered justice
system. And he vows to continue
1:23:52
do peace investigation into the
Biden family and this business
1:23:56
dealings.
1:23:57
DOJ should not be able to
withhold any information now.
1:24:01
But a top Democrat on the House
Oversight Panel today called the
1:24:05
charges against Hunter Biden a
reflection of the DoD
1:24:09
independence, and that says
former President Trump who's was
1:24:12
indicted with 37 federal charges
and calls Hunter Biden's charges
1:24:17
in New York traffic ticket. And
today President Biden said
1:24:21
I'm very proud of my son. A
White House
1:24:23
spokesperson says today that the
President and the First Lady
1:24:26
love their son and support him
as he continues to rebuild his
1:24:30
life while adding we have no
further comment. Meanwhile,
1:24:33
although Hunter Biden's or Tony
says today's announcement marks
1:24:36
the end to a five year
investigation into Hunter Biden.
1:24:40
The DoD later said on Tuesday
that its investigation into
1:24:44
Hunter Biden is still ongoing.
1:24:47
Adam Curry: Yeah, well that is
just saying that to keep their
1:24:50
power Whoa, you know, we might
do some it is all and and also
1:24:57
this incessant reading of the
law. Action is not for a year
1:25:01
and a half and elbow. Brewer was
going to be president is going
1:25:03
to be who gives a crap it's
going to be president. What's
1:25:06
happening the President is not
the king, the emperor of America
1:25:10
he has limited power see Trump
now he what he did he did what
1:25:16
he did he's Supreme Court
federal judges tried to do
1:25:21
everything else was his downfall
talking to Putin talking to to
1:25:25
North Korea talking to the
Saudis all that was you know,
1:25:28
the military industrial complex
dia whatever it is, it's all
1:25:32
taken people down it's just not
that important you know, your
1:25:37
mail your your governor your
your city council your school
1:25:40
board that's where you got to
focus on these in America at
1:25:43
least we're a federated system
of states you still have power
1:25:47
people just sucked into this.
Whoa this guy that guy Red Team
1:25:51
Blue exactly what what RFK Jr
said so then we have the new law
1:25:57
let's just go back and let's as
we say in the old country, drag
1:26:00
some old cows out of the canal.
And let's let our cool out slow
1:26:07
that in Dutch and our cool out
slow Tyler is dragging Oh cow
1:26:12
out of the canal.
1:26:15
Unknown: The Dutchman great one
1:26:17
Adam Curry: off cow out of the
canal.
1:26:20
Unknown: Here's NBC News report
and on Capitol Hill, the former
1:26:23
special counsel investigating
the FBIs Russia probe against
1:26:27
then candidate Donald Trump
telling lawmakers his findings
1:26:31
included sobering missteps by
the FBI. Jared Hake. Now with
1:26:35
that story.
1:26:36
Special Counsel John Durham
facing a five hour grilling,
1:26:39
grilling, he's explosive
conclusion that the FBI acted
1:26:43
improperly in its opening of the
2016 Trump Russia probe. We
1:26:47
found troubling violations of
law and policy Mr. Durham
1:26:51
arguing that the available
evidence did not support opening
1:26:54
the full investigation known as
crossfire hurricane,
1:26:57
the FBI opened up crossfire
hurricane without speaking to
1:27:00
the people who provided the
initial information. Is that
1:27:03
true? That's correct. Was there
adequate predication for the FBI
1:27:07
to open crossfire hurricane as a
full investigation
1:27:12
on July 31. And my view based on
our investigation that was not a
1:27:15
legitimate basis to openness,
full investigation
1:27:19
and Durham saying he found anti
Trump sentiment among the FBI
1:27:22
brass who launched the
investigation. There are some
1:27:26
individuals who clearly
expressed a personal bias. The
1:27:30
Mueller report ultimately found
no conspiracy between the Trump
1:27:33
campaign and Russia but resulted
in 34 People criminally charged
1:27:38
Democrats noting Durham's four
year investigation produced only
1:27:41
three criminal cases, including
to acquittals and accusing the
1:27:45
bill Barr appointee of running
political interference for
1:27:48
former President Trump.
1:27:51
Adam Curry: So what comes out of
all this as far as I can tell, I
1:27:54
don't know if you have any
clips. But the we have a when
1:27:57
everybody we are censoring. We
are censoring Adam Schiff of
1:28:01
California. And it's like, oh,
yes, he's been censured. And if
1:28:09
you look it up. In the context
of the United States House of
1:28:12
Representatives censure refers
to an official reprimand formal
1:28:16
condemnation of a member for
misconduct and inappropriate
1:28:19
behavior. Nothing else happens?
1:28:23
John C Dvorak: No, of course
not. This goes on every so often
1:28:25
it's supposed to be a review.
1:28:27
Adam Curry: Yes, it's all a
rebuke slap on the wrist. It we
1:28:31
disapprove of how you handled
everything. Adam Schiff.
1:28:36
John C Dvorak: Good to have one
Dirham clip from NTD.
1:28:38
Adam Curry: But yeah, let's play
the drum and TD Here we go.
1:28:42
Unknown: So Chairman Mike Turner
and ranking Democrat member Jim
1:28:45
Himes came and spoke to
reporters immediately following
1:28:48
that meeting with special
counsel, John Durham. And it's
1:28:51
interesting because they had
pretty much a bipartisan
1:28:53
consensus of wanting to address
the mistakes that the FBI made,
1:28:57
in that in launching that
investigation against former
1:29:00
President Donald Trump and
expressing a wish to find
1:29:03
solutions moving forward. Let's
look at what they had to say.
1:29:07
It was interesting to hear from
Mr. Durham, that he has concerns
1:29:11
that there are reforms that need
to go into place and that there
1:29:14
are still issues that need to be
addressed. And he was very
1:29:17
forthcoming and sharing with us
and I think that we were able to
1:29:19
get some information that would
be very helpful for us and the
1:29:22
work that we have to do on both
FISA renewal FISA reforms and
1:29:26
also reform issues with the FBI,
and appreciate my ranking member
1:29:31
Jim
1:29:31
Ward essentially says that the
FBI made serious mistakes when
1:29:35
launching that crossfire
hurricane investigation into
1:29:38
former President Donald Trump
because they lacked sufficient
1:29:41
evidence to even open the
investigation to begin with.
1:29:45
Instead, the information that
the FBI did have was based on
1:29:48
individual sources who were
politically biased and those
1:29:51
facts went unchecked, even when
the FBI did come across
1:29:55
information that was contrary to
that information coming from
1:29:59
those indices. jewel sources
they still dismissed it and
1:30:01
continue to launch that
investigation. Now, of course,
1:30:05
we've heard from many
Republicans. They pointed to
1:30:07
this Durham report saying that
it's proof that the FBI has used
1:30:11
their power to target political
opponents, specifically former
1:30:14
President Donald Trump. Of
course, this is a similar
1:30:17
argument that we heard just last
week during Trump's second
1:30:20
arraignment. Now, the FBI has
responded acknowledging that
1:30:24
they did make mistakes with that
crossfire hurricane
1:30:27
investigation, but have said
they have since taken steps to
1:30:31
prevent mistakes like this from
happening in the future and have
1:30:34
also said that the FBI officials
involved in the crossfire
1:30:37
hurricane investigation have
left the FBI either by retiring
1:30:41
or being terminated or having
resigned. Oh, yeah, nice and
1:30:45
Adam Curry: tidy. All right.
Okay. So
1:30:47
John C Dvorak: now I want to
read something from a Democrat.
1:30:51
This is a newsletter that comes
out on Saturday called a letter
1:30:54
from an American and I always
like I subscribe to this because
1:30:58
one of our
1:30:58
Adam Curry: why wouldn't use it
because you need to have good
1:31:01
information on all sides. Of
course,
1:31:03
John C Dvorak: one of our
producers was pitching and one
1:31:05
of his letters about how his
wife won't come around to listen
1:31:09
to no agenda. And, and he cited
this newsletter, she reads it
1:31:14
religiously and believes every
bit of it. And so I'm just going
1:31:18
to read just a bit of it
discussing the Durham report and
1:31:22
the testimony at Durham hat. And
just to show you, where the
1:31:26
typical hardcore Democrat is
concerning the Russian
1:31:31
investigation because it keeps
cropping up. But Democrats on
1:31:36
the committee pressed him on the
facts of the Russian
1:31:38
investigation itself. And he
seemingly somewhat reluctantly
1:31:43
agreed under oath in response to
question by Representative Adam
1:31:47
Schiff, that the facts of the
Muller report and the Senate
1:31:50
Intelligence Committee report
were correct. Russia interfered
1:31:55
in the 2016 election for the
benefit of Trump. Trump's
1:32:01
campaign welcomed the help and
shared information and secret
1:32:05
meetings with Russian
operatives, and the FBI was
1:32:09
justified in investigating that
interference. Now, this is not
1:32:15
what anyone else is hearing. But
this is what this the core of
1:32:19
the Democrat Party believes
sounds
1:32:21
Adam Curry: like it was written
by Nicole Wallace.
1:32:23
John C Dvorak: It's a lie. Yeah.
1:32:26
Adam Curry: That's not at all
what I mean, we know a couple of
1:32:28
things from the Muller report.
We read it all we deconstructed
1:32:32
it, it was disappointing for
people that you know, they
1:32:34
couldn't hang Trump on it. We
also learned that the no agenda
1:32:38
show is the best podcast in
universe that was also in the
1:32:41
Muller report. It was in there
it was in there. Yeah, that's
1:32:45
why. So then
1:32:46
John C Dvorak: it's a lie, but
they just spew it out just like
1:32:49
this. Yeah. And it's just and it
goes on with this. It's more
1:32:54
about how Russia and Trump is
they're connected. And they're
1:32:59
going to somebody's point on
this on one of the talk shows, I
1:33:02
can't remember which one it was
dot bungee G knows, damn radio,
1:33:06
Sham bungee. And he says that
there's no way that you're not
1:33:09
going to revisit this because it
works so well to just associate
1:33:13
whoever the Republican whoever a
Republican is running that with
1:33:17
Russian interference. And they
stick with it. Underlying
1:33:21
everything we're talking about
and everything and all the
1:33:23
ghosts and all the realities.
What I just read underlies
1:33:28
everything and it stays there.
1:33:30
Adam Curry: And it's been that
way for for decades and decades.
1:33:33
It goes all the way back Russia,
communist Russia, Cuba, on and
1:33:38
on and on. It's all that's
always been the Boogeyman. So
1:33:43
there was one moment in this in
this hearing, where I forget who
1:33:49
it was skies, just like, man, if
you're shilling for Trump for
1:33:53
Trump, you're gonna lose
everything. Your life is over.
1:33:55
You better quit it.
1:33:56
Unknown: Yeah, good. John. We've
now entered the fifth hour of
1:33:59
this hearing where we continue
to hear questions from members
1:34:03
to the Special Counsel, John
Durham and what's been a very
1:34:06
partisan display up until now
while Republicans have chosen to
1:34:09
focus on the contents of his
report. Democrats have tried to
1:34:15
discredit John Durham's findings
and even attack his character,
1:34:19
you have a good reputation. You
had a good reputation. That's
1:34:22
why the two Democrats supported
you. But the longer you hold on
1:34:26
to Mr. Baugh and this report
that Mr. Barr gave you a special
1:34:30
counsel, your reputation will be
damaged as everybody's
1:34:34
reputation who gets involved
with Donald Trump his damage,
1:34:37
he's damaged goods, there's no
good dealing with him because
1:34:40
you will end up on the bottom of
a pyre.
1:34:42
My concern by my reputation is
with the people who I respect my
1:34:46
family and my Lord. Lordy, and
I'm perfectly comfortable with
1:34:50
my reputation with them, sir.
1:34:52
Adam Curry: So your reputation
will be gone. You'll be nothing
1:34:55
in this town. That's what
they're all afraid I work that's
1:34:59
what they're all Write up. I do
have to play this. This clip
1:35:04
from Brett bears interview with
President Trump. Brett bear was
1:35:08
out for out for blood. And I
think he drew some and I and he
1:35:12
embarrassed the former president
many times with what he was
1:35:16
saying. And he just I have to
say he just ran circles around
1:35:20
Trump and Trump wasn't expecting
it. I don't know that he still
1:35:23
thinks that Fox News was was on
his side. I
1:35:26
John C Dvorak: believe that's
true, because he said it can
1:35:28
number of times that he knows
that Fox News This is
1:35:31
Adam Curry: well he wasn't
prepared for it. Unless this
1:35:35
this was I mean, bear did a lot
of interesting things with boy.
1:35:39
John C Dvorak: Go ahead to
discuss this little aspect. I
1:35:43
think Trump's still thinks he's
the smartest guy in the room and
1:35:46
he can be tricked.
1:35:50
Adam Curry: Oh, yeah. So he can
be tricked. Anyway, listen to
1:35:54
this. Your Vice
1:35:54
Unknown: President Mike Pence is
running against you. Your
1:35:56
ambassador to the United Nations
Nikki Haley. She's running
1:35:59
against you, your former
Secretary of State Mike Pompeo
1:36:01
said he's not supporting you.
You mentioned National Security
1:36:04
Adviser John Bolton. He's not
supporting you either. You
1:36:07
mentioned Attorney General Bill
Barr says you shouldn't be
1:36:10
president again. I called you to
constantly narcissist and
1:36:13
troubled man you recently called
and borrow a gutless pig. Your
1:36:18
second defensive posture is not
supporting you called your
1:36:21
irresponsible. This week. You
and your White House called your
1:36:24
White House Chief of Staff John
Kelly, weak and ineffective and
1:36:28
born with a very small brain.
You called your acting White
1:36:31
House Chief of Staff Mick
Mulvaney a born loser. You
1:36:34
called your first Secretary of
State Rex Tillerson dumb as a
1:36:36
rock and your first Defense
Secretary James Mattis, the
1:36:39
world's most overrated general,
you called your White House
1:36:42
press secretary Kayleigh Canady
milquetoast and multiple times
1:36:45
you've referred to your
transportation secretary Elaine
1:36:47
Chao as Mitch McConnell's China
loving wife.
1:36:52
I will tell you that something
happens when people leave, they
1:36:57
can like me very much. I have
this woman named Alyssa Farah.
1:37:00
She said the greatest things
wrong after she left. He's the
1:37:03
greatest president we've ever
had. He was unbelievable.
1:37:05
Unbelievable. Then the view
offered her a contract. But
1:37:10
obviously, only if she changed
your views. And all of a sudden
1:37:13
she can say negative things.
Money gets offered to people and
1:37:16
some people change.
1:37:19
Adam Curry: This is not the only
the answer. Now, he says it.
1:37:23
Yeah. Well, she was barraged yes
he was but he was like I'm I'm
1:37:27
great at firing people. He's
pretty good at firing people.
1:37:29
I'm not good at hiring people.
And by the way, we're gonna say
1:37:33
that No, and he should he should
repent for Operation warp speed.
1:37:37
Not maybe for doing it because
that wasn't necessarily wrong.
1:37:39
But he should say, you know,
that didn't work out too. Well,
1:37:42
that stuff is not good. This
1:37:45
John C Dvorak: pant for not
pardoning Julian Assange.
1:37:48
Adam Curry: That would be a big
one for us. Yes, for sure. It
1:37:51
John C Dvorak: also probably
should have also Snowden should
1:37:53
have been on the list. But
1:37:54
Adam Curry: also, it feels to me
like he's, he's thinking
1:37:58
simplistically about America has
grown up. Thanks to him.
1:38:02
Actually. We have grown up.
There's a lot of people who,
1:38:06
Paul, the septic guy called me
yesterday and you know, had some
1:38:09
question about his generator.
And he's like, you know, man,
1:38:13
like Buell right there, Ronnie
D, he's no good. He's Wall
1:38:16
Street guy. But when I Trump
behind, I don't know what to do,
1:38:20
that people are confused because
now they start to understand the
1:38:23
issues. They're seeing what's
going on. Now Trump is right
1:38:27
about what he predicted about
the economy, etc. But that was
1:38:30
easy to predict because of all
the money that was printed. Then
1:38:33
he was there. You know, he saw
it, he actually brought the
1:38:36
Federal Reserve closer into the
treasury than it ever was
1:38:39
before. And it's just he if you
could get a sentence out and
1:38:45
explain things calmly and not
always being just, you know, I
1:38:52
create a more consistent Rumi's
1:38:53
John C Dvorak: invitation to me.
Yeah.
1:38:56
Adam Curry: Really, I picked it
up from her. Yeah. And so if RFK
1:39:01
Jr, who's I think people could
be a single, that could be a
1:39:05
single voting issue. The only
single voting issue we have in
1:39:09
the United States right now is
abortion and maybe trans rights,
1:39:14
but everybody could be it
against war. Everybody could be
1:39:18
against it and Trump can do this
he has a reason or he has a
1:39:21
record with this now in Kennedy
Jr. He
1:39:25
John C Dvorak: has a right he
has a positive record very good
1:39:28
right issues war being one of
them. Yeah, but instead he gets
1:39:32
down into eating or he can't
seem to bring himself up to the
1:39:36
level of like ever Kennedy and
be philosophical in a way that's
1:39:40
meaningful. I mean, now there is
a an example I have a son a lot
1:39:45
it was on the last clip list. It
was last show okay of him
1:39:48
discussing the education system
calmly and and I don't know if
1:39:52
it's on this clip list or not
Trump
1:39:54
Adam Curry: but you have to go
over Trump on education played
1:39:57
it play this.
1:39:57
John C Dvorak: This is a policy
discussion that is great never
1:40:02
got played anywhere. I've
there's other examples of stuff
1:40:07
like this and it just is not
what they want from Trump.
1:40:10
Unknown: For many years tuition
costs and colleges and
1:40:13
universities have been
exploding, and I mean absolutely
1:40:17
exploding. While academics have
been obsessed with
1:40:21
indoctrinating America's youth.
The time has come to reclaim our
1:40:26
once great educational
institutions from the radical
1:40:29
left and we will do that our
secret weapon will be the
1:40:33
college accreditation system.
It's called accreditation for a
1:40:38
reason. The accreditors are
supposed to ensure that schools
1:40:42
are not ripping off students and
taxpayers but they have failed
1:40:46
totally. When I returned to the
White House, I will fire the
1:40:49
radical left to creditors that
have allowed our colleges to
1:40:53
become dominated by Marxist
Maniacs and lunatics. We will
1:40:59
then accept applications for new
accreditors who will impose real
1:41:03
standards on colleges once again
and once and for all. These
1:41:08
standards will include defending
the American tradition and
1:41:11
Western civilization, protecting
free speech eliminating wasteful
1:41:16
administrative positions that
drive up costs incredibly,
1:41:20
removing all boxes Diversity,
Equity and Inclusion bureaucrats
1:41:25
offering options for accelerated
at low cost degrees, providing
1:41:30
meaningful job placement and
Career Services and implementing
1:41:35
college entrance and exit exams
to prove that students are
1:41:38
actually learning and getting
their money's worth.
1:41:42
Furthermore, I will direct the
Department of Justice to pursue
1:41:45
federal civil rights cases
against schools that continue to
1:41:49
engage in racial discrimination.
And schools that persist and
1:41:54
explicit unlawful discrimination
under the guise of equity will
1:41:58
not only have their endowment
stacks, but through budget
1:42:02
reconciliation, I will advance a
measure to have them fined up to
1:42:08
the entire amount of their
endowment. A portion of the C's
1:42:12
funds will then be used as
restitution for victims of these
1:42:15
illegal and unjust policies,
policies that hurt our country.
1:42:20
so badly. Colleges have gotten
hundreds of billions of dollars
1:42:24
from hard working taxpayers. And
now we are going to get this
1:42:28
anti American insanity out of
our institutions once and for
1:42:33
all. We are going to have real
education in America. Thank you.
1:42:39
Adam Curry: Great policy
statement. Couple problems. One,
1:42:42
he's dividing left as Democrats,
you know, you know, that if
1:42:48
you're not going to win the
whole country with that same
1:42:50
with with DeSantis, with his
anti woke stuff, you can I'm not
1:42:54
against what he's saying. Of
course, of course, the schools
1:42:56
have become discriminatory, but
the President shouldn't even be
1:43:00
involved in the school in
Fredericksburg, that should be
1:43:04
the Fredericksburg people. And
to a large degree, they have
1:43:07
that right and they are actually
taking that you know, they
1:43:10
they're making use of that. I
think Americans and maybe people
1:43:15
all over the world are tired of
the government people at the top
1:43:18
saying we're going to do this
we're gonna fix this we're gonna
1:43:20
fix that. And they all hang on
for dear life, and nothing
1:43:23
happens because the President is
not the king. Now and then he
1:43:27
hires a who would Pritzker
Pritzker do cheval deuces from
1:43:34
the douche family. I haven't
forgotten that. It just doesn't
1:43:39
make any I like the Marxist
Maniacs and lunatics that are
1:43:41
like that's clearly a problem.
Now
1:43:46
John C Dvorak: well, you can't
do much on the local level with
1:43:48
schools like Harvard it's not
really
1:43:51
Adam Curry: I understand the
government I understand that but
1:43:53
just schools in general this
this problem is not well, I
1:43:58
guess it is because what the
who's who's funding the schools?
1:44:02
It's it's the big endowment.
That's where all that comes
1:44:06
from. You can't stop that.
1:44:07
John C Dvorak: No, no, it's the
high tuitions the endowments are
1:44:10
accumulating. They're not nobody
in funded. The Italian Downey
1:44:14
endowment
1:44:15
Adam Curry: determined the
curriculum. They say we'll give
1:44:18
you this endowment but you've
got to do this curriculum.
1:44:20
That's the way I understand it.
But I'm just talking about the
1:44:24
lower level just the kids who
were being indoctrinated told
1:44:27
their boys and girls when
they're not.
1:44:29
John C Dvorak: Well, which
brings me to my top clips here
1:44:32
we talk talk to talk.
1:44:37
Adam Curry: Before we go there,
kind of just say one thing
1:44:38
someone gave me a theory that I
thought was really interesting
1:44:40
just relating to the the Biden
crime family. What if 10% for
1:44:46
the big guy? What if the big guy
is Obama? And we're just miss
1:44:52
misinterpreting that to be Joe
Biden.
1:44:57
John C Dvorak: Well, here's the
reason I don't think that's the
1:44:59
case. So I liked it. Because
because Obama's a newbie came in
1:45:05
out of the out of the blue is a
good coordinator from some
1:45:10
charities in Chicago. Biden goes
back 50 years and they're one of
1:45:15
the most corrupt states of the
country,
1:45:18
Adam Curry: Delaware. Good
point. Okay. I'm just throwing
1:45:21
it out there. Just that we got
to keep it. There's a thread
1:45:24
somewhere there's
1:45:25
John C Dvorak: maybe that that
during the Obama administration
1:45:28
Biden was running it for all we
know could be a fact that let me
1:45:33
get off track and go away from
tick tock for a minute and bring
1:45:35
it up. I have this this thesis
about Biden always being a gun
1:45:42
day, you know, the, the chin,
the guy around the gentle AC
1:45:45
Family walked around the
1:45:47
Adam Curry: village and dance
peeing his pants in
1:45:48
John C Dvorak: his underwear,
mumbling to himself, made me
1:45:52
listen to this clip. This is
Brooks on the Biden
1:45:56
Adam Curry: books. On the Biden
1:45:57
Unknown: point, President Biden
told reporters today that he has
1:46:00
not talked to the Attorney
General about this case and will
1:46:02
not talk to him about it.
1:46:03
And that's not really
appropriate. I would say even
1:46:06
longer term though I do think
Biden is still under exposed. I
1:46:09
think his staff is still over
protective of him. And he's much
1:46:13
smarter in public than a lot of
people think, and private. And
1:46:18
so I do think they need to let
him get out more because it's
1:46:21
just not good for the
presidency, for him to be that
1:46:23
much in the shadow of Donald
Trump. And that's been even
1:46:26
without the indictment.
1:46:27
Couldn't he tell them that?
Could he tell his staff that if
1:46:29
he felt that way? It's been said
to me that the President
1:46:32
believes that when you empower
people to do their jobs, you
1:46:34
listen to their advice, but if
he agreed with you, couldn't you
1:46:37
tell them hey, I
1:46:38
don't need to be so protected.
1:46:39
You would think so. And I will
say from what I hear inside the
1:46:42
White House, he's not a
doddering old grandpa. He's like
1:46:45
could be a very tough mean guy,
a very harsh boss sometimes. So
1:46:48
he couldn't say that but you
know, he might he might be
1:46:51
trusted and maybe he wants to be
as quiet and frankly as as
1:46:56
closed in as he has been.
1:46:59
Adam Curry: You've this has been
your theory previously about the
1:47:02
agenda of AC What is it the the
old mafia guy?
1:47:06
John C Dvorak: Yeah, gigante. I
like it.
1:47:10
Adam Curry: i To me, it feels
like there's a thread somewhere
1:47:14
and it was someone pulls this
one thread it all comes.
1:47:17
Everything comes undone and I
think the only way If he truly
1:47:21
is the mob boss, and he's really
he is the big guy. He has to
1:47:26
call the hit on Hunter. Then out
of the blue and I'll be waiting
1:47:34
with your theory someone's got
to do it. Hunters a liability.
1:47:38
John C Dvorak: Liability. I'm
not done. There's no denying
1:47:40
that you know,
1:47:41
Adam Curry: and and if I love my
son, Mm hmm. So no one wants to
1:47:46
kill Hunter. I'm just theorizing
here.
1:47:50
John C Dvorak: No, I'm it. It's
a mob thing. It's a mob thing
1:47:54
would happen
1:47:55
Adam Curry: and and beef is
truly the Abraham here of the
1:47:58
mob family. He's gonna have to
sacrifice his kid. He's gonna
1:48:03
have to do it. If he does that,
then okay, well, by the way,
1:48:07
then it's all over. Then
America's done for
1:48:10
John C Dvorak: well. We're gonna
go back to play to talk thing
1:48:14
again. We're reset tock tock,
tick tock
1:48:19
Adam Curry: where we're
resetting everybody.
1:48:21
John C Dvorak: Now, before we
again, I'm gonna do a site. I'm
1:48:26
going to do before we play any
of these top tips. I want to
1:48:29
play something that Mimi got for
me. Okay. This is no you have to
1:48:34
remember this is millions and
millions of kids used to love
1:48:37
Mr. Rogers.
1:48:38
Adam Curry: It's a beautiful day
in the neighborhood. Of course,
1:48:41
I used to watch Mr. Rogers.
1:48:42
John C Dvorak: And you know, it
has to miss it. It had to have
1:48:45
some influence. I want to play
this is a song from one of his
1:48:51
albums and like any obvious I
never watched him mostly. I
1:48:54
don't know. I missed him. Yeah,
I couldn't put up with him.
1:49:00
Adam Curry: You were a rambling
teenager. That's why
1:49:02
John C Dvorak: I'm telling you.
So. But listen to this Mr.
1:49:05
Rogers selling
1:49:06
Unknown: some are fancy on the
outside. Some are fancy on the
1:49:12
inside. Everybody's fancy.
Everybody's fine. Your body's
1:49:19
fancy. And so is my boys are
boys from the beginning. When
1:49:25
you're born a boy baby, you grow
up to be a bigger boy. And then
1:49:30
a man. Girls are girls right
from the start. When you're born
1:49:35
a girl baby. You grow up to be a
bigger girl, and then a woman.
1:49:40
Everybody's fancy. Everybody's
fine. Your body's fancy. And so
1:49:47
is my girls grow up to be the
mommy. boys grow up to be the
1:49:54
daddy. Everybody's fancy.
Everybody's fun. If your body's
1:50:02
fancy, and so is my
1:50:05
Adam Curry: heresy I tell you
heresy
1:50:09
John C Dvorak: bruising a gig K
cruisin for a cancellation
1:50:15
Unknown: he's dead
1:50:18
John C Dvorak: he's dead so
let's go with
1:50:21
Adam Curry: Thank you Mimi for
throwing us off track is going
1:50:24
back to some crazy people on Tik
Tok
1:50:26
John C Dvorak: go back to the
net balls and boy are they in
1:50:30
this case now here's a noodle
boy guy he's a I don't know what
1:50:35
he's non binary just I don't
know what his pronouns are her
1:50:37
pronouns or whatever she has but
nose ring right through the you
1:50:42
know the middle one and they're
like the cow and big giant
1:50:46
earrings and wild makeup and
here he goes is the Asheville
1:50:51
noodle boy
1:50:52
Unknown: up until yesterday, I
worked at blend pretzels I asked
1:50:55
the general manager to stand up
for trans rights and against our
1:50:59
genocide. And he laughed in my
face the owner. His father is a
1:51:04
Nazi his son is the general
manager. I've spent nearly a
1:51:08
year expending so much emotional
labor trying to make sure that
1:51:13
I'm safe including having three
hour conversations with the
1:51:18
general manager about why rate
isn't funny. He has sat there
1:51:21
and watched the owner be
transphobic to me, he also
1:51:25
watched and supported while he
paid me less than everybody else
1:51:29
if you are in the Nashville area
or Buncombe County, do not
1:51:33
support blunt pretzels if you
support trans people.
1:51:36
Adam Curry: Yeah, yeah, well,
this is clearly mentally
1:51:39
disturbed, momentarily mentally
disturbed
1:51:44
John C Dvorak: or permanently
numb. Here's a here's a woman
1:51:47
this is the armpit girl has a
short clip she just went on it's
1:51:53
just to show that she has armpit
hairy armpits to get hairy
1:51:57
armpits is a big deal to her.
But you have to note that she
1:52:01
has a completely she bought
perfectly shaved bald head has
1:52:06
been shaved the shaved bald head
and the armpits and she's been
1:52:13
here's the clip.
1:52:14
Unknown: So I have this thing
called a little quirk if you
1:52:17
will. I have hair in my armpit.
I have it there for a few
1:52:20
reasons. One lazy to fuck the
patriarchy and fury. Your
1:52:26
response to them? tells me
everything I need to know about
1:52:30
you. Yeah,
1:52:33
John C Dvorak: this is the thing
is a bit lazy if she sewed keep
1:52:38
her head bald. Yeah. But she's
lazy. She says yeah, that's
1:52:43
that's bullcrap. I
1:52:44
Adam Curry: mean, this is. I
have different I have multiple
1:52:48
thoughts about that. I remember
moving to Europe in the 70s and
1:52:51
my mom being horrified. These
women have hairy pits and hairy
1:52:56
legs.
1:52:58
Unknown: Got airy lay eggs.
1:53:01
Adam Curry: So that's that
doesn't bother me. I mean, you
1:53:04
know,
1:53:05
John C Dvorak: if you saw this
wish he'd been no,
1:53:07
Adam Curry: I liked it. You're
sitting at home watching this
1:53:09
and going and getting all worked
up over it. I kind of like that
1:53:12
or just like that. Like I'm
gonna make a clip out of this.
1:53:16
John C Dvorak: And luckily, by
the way, by the way, I should
1:53:19
mention that now because I've
been doing these I'm now I don't
1:53:22
have to do any work. Because
they are being sent to me. It's
1:53:26
just magic.
1:53:27
Adam Curry: Yeah. And you're
like, Oh, right. I can't. I've
1:53:30
got all the clips I need. I've
got them all.
1:53:32
John C Dvorak: So here's the
queer author this this is a long
1:53:35
clip. I'm gonna skip this. Oh,
1:53:37
Adam Curry: thank you long. I
don't know if I can handle a
1:53:38
long clip.
1:53:39
John C Dvorak: Let's listen to
the white supremacy clip.
1:53:41
Unknown: This commenter says I'm
perfectly fine with fat people.
1:53:46
But WTF do you mean, Aryan that
phobia and racism are two
1:53:52
completely separate things. But
they're not all bigotry, and our
1:53:58
culture is rooted in white
supremacy. White supremacy so
1:54:03
that's my ideal and adding
deviation from that ideal is
1:54:07
discriminated against. Obviously
this goes for a race, but it
1:54:11
also includes the person's size
and our culture, the skinny
1:54:16
people are upheld as the ideal.
There's also racism behind why
1:54:21
skinniness is considered the
ideal because as white women we
1:54:26
want to set ourselves apart from
black women who stereotypically
1:54:30
have curvier bodies. All bodies
are beautiful, but white
1:54:35
supremacy needs to hold up a
singular ideal in order to
1:54:40
maintain control.
1:54:42
Adam Curry: Yeah, this is just
this is the this is the
1:54:44
education system. The and the
media and tick tock probably and
1:54:51
you know this white supremacy,
whereas throughout history in
1:54:56
the Reubens period when the
thick women were found beautiful
1:55:00
in the black community thick
girls are are more desired than
1:55:04
thin girls. It changes it
changes over time. And we
1:55:07
fluctuate this flux. Thank you.
It's
1:55:09
John C Dvorak: a fashion. Yes,
1:55:11
Adam Curry: it's called a
fashion. Now of course, there's
1:55:12
some health issues that come in
at a certain point. But you
1:55:15
know, that's why we have
ozempic, which we'll get to
1:55:18
after we think some people but
before the since you led me down
1:55:22
this path, I do need to discuss
a couple of
1:55:25
John C Dvorak: them before I get
to I get one, at least play one
1:55:27
push back clip. And this is the
pride push ban in Massachusetts.
1:55:33
And even though you could tell
that to the reporters on the
1:55:36
news channel, were horrified.
Horrified by this woman who's
1:55:40
making nothing but sense
1:55:42
Unknown: these displays of
intolerance and homophobia are
1:55:45
unacceptable if this type of
intolerant rhetoric starts in
1:55:48
the home,
1:55:48
parents angry at townhall over
intolerance at Marshall Simon's
1:55:53
middle school, kids were asked
to wear rainbow clothes in honor
1:55:56
of pride Spirit Day, but some
organized a counter protest
1:56:00
wearing red, white and blue or
black. The principal sharing a
1:56:03
statement to families that pride
posters were ripped down
1:56:07
stickers ripped up some students
chanted USA are my pronouns and
1:56:11
students showing pride were
intimidated. It was
1:56:14
an unruly disruption. In fact,
that was organized ahead of time
1:56:19
while some parents were upset.
Others say it was overblown.
1:56:22
Some of the kids threw the
stickers on the ground. But you
1:56:25
know, I can only speak for my
daughter she just she didn't
1:56:27
want to wear that to school.
It's not that she wanted to hurt
1:56:30
anybody's feelings.
1:56:30
She says her daughter felt
coerced to participate in the
1:56:34
Pride event and was offended by
some of the messages like this
1:56:37
quote from Tennessee Williams
1:56:39
human heart cannot be straight
it is curves and winds and my
1:56:42
daughter just kind of said you
know mom, that's that's
1:56:45
offensive to me who I am
straight.
1:56:47
But even parents like her
opposed to the Pride Month
1:56:50
celebration, say the ripping of
posters was wrong.
1:56:53
I think destructing any property
is wrong. I think you know, that
1:56:58
I just think that was wrong.
parents
1:56:59
and community groups now calling
for the town and school board to
1:57:02
act and support diversity,
equity and inclusion, the
1:57:06
incident sparking discussion at
home on both sides.
1:57:09
My thing that I teach my kids is
just be kind. And I wish the
1:57:14
schools would just kind of pump
the brakes on what they're
1:57:16
showing Greg Stokes,
1:57:18
the issue of pride in schools is
very controversial. I understand
1:57:22
that I think we need to start at
a place of commonality.
1:57:25
Now the principal says that no
one was forced to participate in
1:57:29
the Pride Day event, but now
parents on both sides want
1:57:32
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1:57:36
Adam Curry: Oh, it was nice to
hear people want dialogue
1:57:37
because this is more of the what
Kennedy calls the wages of war,
1:57:40
you know, oh, we got to go to
war. We gotta go. I got into war
1:57:43
against them. Yeah, a couple of
things I want to read before I
1:57:48
play two clips here. As so it's
unraveling a little bit. The the
1:57:56
transitioning of children is
starting to unravel. We're
1:58:00
seeing clips coming out of the
UK when I didn't I didn't get
1:58:04
those clips, probably seen as
like another one is outrageous
1:58:08
things on social media. stuff.
Yeah. The kid says, hey, you
1:58:12
know, you can't identify as a
cat. There's only two genders.
1:58:15
The kid gets kicked out. The
teacher comes in and says, you
1:58:18
know, this is this is what the
authority says the authority
1:58:21
says, then you can be anything
you want. And you should 13 year
1:58:24
olds. Yeah. So this is the
problem with government in your
1:58:28
school, is your government
shouldn't be telling you,
1:58:31
whether it's whether you agree
with it or not. The government
1:58:33
should be telling you how to how
your children should be learning
1:58:36
or what they should be learning
but that's up to up to you if
1:58:39
you want that. In 2016 there was
a big MTV reality show about
1:58:47
this kid called Milo and Milo
was oh it was born a girl but
1:58:52
was definitely going to be a boy
and it was you know, just went
1:58:55
all through the transitioning
and now Milo is back after what
1:58:59
is it? Eight nine years.
distraught. I can never have
1:59:05
kids again. I regret getting
hormone injections. my ovaries
1:59:10
are dead. It's horrible,
horrible things. Elliott page
1:59:15
used to be Ellen Page came out
with his interview and just I
1:59:20
mean it's so it's so horrific.
This child was abused in
1:59:25
Hollywood sexually abused and
then you know therapist said all
1:59:28
you clearly a boy will fix that
right up and anyone with the
1:59:32
sound mind who reads this? Can
see like No, no, no, there's
1:59:36
something else going on with
this person. There's a
1:59:39
whistleblower now that exposes
the hospital for performing sex
1:59:42
chain surgeries on minors. I
mean, it's all coming out.
1:59:45
People are not all in lockstep
on this, no matter what the
1:59:48
media thinks, no matter what
politicians think. And even if
1:59:54
the movie theaters think that
they can ban me to here's the
1:59:57
clip.
1:59:58
Unknown: Now the film's producer
say that AMC theaters abruptly
2:00:01
canceled all screenings of the
documentary caving to the
2:00:03
demands of a trans rights group,
AMC Theaters declining to
2:00:07
comment on the record about
their decision to pull the
2:00:10
release.
2:00:11
Adam Curry: Now, what's
interesting about this is this
2:00:13
movie has just been rebranded to
be put into into theaters. It's
2:00:18
called No way back the reality
of gender affirming care. It is
2:00:23
the exact same movie as
affirmation, generation
2:00:26
affirmation, which you can get
on YouTube. So you know,
2:00:30
everyone's kind of in it for
their own reasons, I guess. But
2:00:33
then this happened in Arkansas,
as you know, these horrible
2:00:38
genocidal anti trans laws are
being put in by Republicans who
2:00:43
are Nazis. Now judges are
overturning them. And Amy
2:00:48
Goodman, I have to say
unfortunate morning, Amy Goodman
2:00:53
Clifton bound report that was
usable, usable for US
2:00:59
Unknown: federal judges struck
down Arkansas first in the
2:01:01
nation ban on gender affirming
care for transgender youth.
2:01:05
Judge James moody Jr. ruled the
ban to be unconstitutional
2:01:09
because it discriminates against
transgender people and violates
2:01:12
the rights of doctors. In his
decision. Moody wrote, quote,
2:01:15
rather than protecting children
or safeguarding methods of
2:01:18
medical ethics, the evidence
showed the prohibited medical
2:01:22
care improves the mental health
and well being of patients. And
2:01:26
that by prohibiting it, the
state undermine the interests
2:01:29
that claims to be advancing. One
quote, one of the plaintiffs who
2:01:33
sued our console for the ban was
a 17 year old trans student
2:01:37
named Dylan Brandt, who
responded to the ruling by
2:01:39
saying, quote, transgender kids
across the country are having
2:01:44
their own futures threatened by
laws like this one, and it's up
2:01:47
to all of us to speak out, fight
back and give them hope.
2:01:51
Unquote.
2:01:52
Adam Curry: So I looked at the
judge's opinion. And the judge's
2:01:57
opinion literally says, the
science is in that children who
2:02:03
who get the affirm the gender
affirming care they deserve.
2:02:09
Dude who will not commit
suicide? And so we can you can
2:02:13
boil down this whole debate to
the truth of the matter. To what
2:02:18
does the science really say? And
then the the abstraction of that
2:02:23
is would you rather have a dead
daughter or living son or a dead
2:02:29
son or living daughter but it's
usually a dead daughter living
2:02:32
song because it's a percentage
the girls so that is the SIOP
2:02:37
because the actual science is
only three years old. That's a
2:02:42
joke.
2:02:44
John C Dvorak: The other thing
is interesting, as they
2:02:46
obviously this, this case,
dependent on the whatever the
2:02:49
expert witness was,
2:02:51
Adam Curry: I can tell you it is
the Arkansas chapter of American
2:02:54
Academy of Pediatrics, the
Arkansas Academy of Pediatrics,
2:02:58
the American College of OB GYN,
the American Academy of Child,
2:03:01
Adolescent psychologists, the
American Academy of Child and
2:03:04
Adolescent Psychiatry, the
Arkansas Psychological
2:03:07
Association, and other
scientific and medical
2:03:09
organizations who all recognize
the effectiveness and safety of
2:03:13
gender affirming medical care.
The studies are only Max three
2:03:18
years old. That's who they have
as their expert witnesses. So
2:03:24
fine. Maybe you should look at
Europe who've had who have
2:03:28
literally come out and said,
there is no there are no long
2:03:32
term studies that show this and
in fact that it's 19% of people
2:03:37
transition, wind up suicidal. So
it's it's phony baloney science,
2:03:43
it's just like the jab will you
know it's 80% effective 70 6050
2:03:48
You won't get horribly ill you
won't be in the hospital get a
2:03:51
booster. It's because people
believe a
2:03:55
John C Dvorak: medical system
that allows this to develop in
2:03:59
this way is corrupted.
2:04:01
Adam Curry: Yes. And personally,
I think look, if your kids are
2:04:06
minor, and you're all in on this
and you want to abuse your kid
2:04:11
How about it? If you're all in
and you're there every single
2:04:14
step of the way? Well, then
you're you're just then that'll
2:04:18
be up to you and your your
parent and whatever else. Your
2:04:21
kids
2:04:24
John C Dvorak: some of these
kids go on a murder spree
2:04:26
Adam Curry: well, but you can't
you can't have schools doing
2:04:28
this any of this schools now who
are doing this on the sly
2:04:31
Midwest, teachers trade tips on
subversively, in quietly
2:04:34
transitioning kids without
telling parents, that's the
2:04:37
stuff that should be outlawed.
But if you really think you're a
2:04:40
good parent out, I'd have at it,
but then be ready for the
2:04:44
consequences. So you know, I can
understand why these laws are
2:04:48
seen as unconstitutional. If the
if there's parental consent,
2:04:51
what are you going to do, but
they should at least go out and
2:04:55
get some good information. And
the SIOP of would you rather
2:04:58
I've seen it happen so many
times Do you want a dead
2:05:01
daughter or a living son? And
and it Oh, they'll he'll be
2:05:05
he'll commit suicide if you
don't give this to your
2:05:07
daughter. That is just factually
not true. And so there's no
2:05:13
other debate really. There's
just no other debate. That's all
2:05:17
that it has to be. And so what
this has gone is you know, now
2:05:21
we're down to the book bannings
which is also something that
2:05:25
only my favorite people in Utah,
the you know, that 90 parent
2:05:30
went in and said, and they got
the Bible taken out of the
2:05:32
school because it has horrible
horrific things in it, which is
2:05:37
true. That's an interesting move
they made and it just it got
2:05:43
overturned and the Bible is
back. But yeah, I mean, so it's
2:05:49
history like is slick is very
tricky. But the bottom line is
2:05:53
the science is just not in on
this stuff. That's all and
2:05:58
that's what these movies show.
That's the problem. That's what
2:06:02
the what act whatever.
2:06:04
John C Dvorak: Banning the
information, there's a giveaway
2:06:07
there that there's something
amiss. That's
2:06:09
Adam Curry: exactly right. I
feel like that myself, What are
2:06:13
you drinking today Johnny Boy,
2:06:15
John C Dvorak: polar seltzer
100% natural is 100%
2:06:20
Adam Curry: He
2:06:20
Unknown: 700 frickin percent and
with
2:06:22
Adam Curry: that I'd like to
thank you for your courage and
2:06:24
say in the morning to the man
who put the sea and scandalous
2:06:27
ladies and gentlemen say hello
to my friend on the other end
2:06:29
the one and only Mr. Johnson
2:06:35
John C Dvorak: in the morning to
Mr. Adam curry also in the
2:06:37
morning no chips to see boots on
the ground air feet near
2:06:40
substitute boots on the ground
feed the air subs in the water
2:06:43
and all the names on nights out
there
2:06:49
Adam Curry: count 19 115 Trolls
at this moment. 1915 So that's
2:06:55
up for a Sunday. That's good.
All things considered. Seeing as
2:06:59
we lost at least five people in
that sub he said subs in the
2:07:02
water. I don't know if they're
gonna hear it, John. They ran
2:07:04
out of air this morning. It's
not good. I thought
2:07:06
John C Dvorak: today was
Thursday. Yeah, Thursday. That's
2:07:08
did i What did I say? said
Sunday.
2:07:11
Adam Curry: I'm on drugs. You
know what? It's
2:07:15
John C Dvorak: a lousy. No.
2:07:16
Adam Curry: It's a shoot sick
crap number. No,
2:07:17
John C Dvorak: no, I'm sorry.
It's a good number. Sunday's is
2:07:19
lousy number.
2:07:20
Adam Curry: It would be lousy.
Lousy. Yeah, it's a good number
2:07:23
for Thursday. You know, I had my
new teeth put in Yes. My new
2:07:26
temps actually. Okay, does that
sound good?
2:07:30
John C Dvorak: Yes, I'm fine.
Don't sound any different to me.
2:07:32
Adam Curry: Okay. The I think
I'm more happy right now. I'm
2:07:37
happier. 1915 Good to have you
here trolls. I want to remind
2:07:42
everybody that this is the
donation segment. This is where
2:07:45
we play the special clip, as
well as give you the magic
2:07:50
number. And we always have our
interview here with our guest of
2:07:52
the week. So you pretty much
want to stay tuned, because this
2:07:55
is where all the magic happens.
And it will be a quick one too.
2:08:00
There'll be a very quick
donation segment. Yeah. If you
2:08:06
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can't get into troll room should
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And so we always look for
something that's special. I
2:11:56
think the choice we made for
episode 1565. We titled it clop
2:12:03
clop. For the big move it hack
was a Father's Day piece. Even
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Father's Day donations were
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little I was less than stellar.
This piece of artwork struck a
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Scaramanga and it was a little
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And I think that's why we have
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listening live today than than
we normally had this artwork
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drew them in, like these guys.
They can't be all Nasi. This
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Look at this cute picture. So we
appreciate that Francisco
2:12:55
Scaramanga and we had a number
of pieces to choose from, which
2:13:00
you can follow along while we
discuss this. Actually, I
2:13:03
John C Dvorak: think I was
referring something and then we
2:13:06
both agreed on this robot. What
was it? Yeah, you can be wrong.
2:13:10
Adam Curry: No, you were No,
you'd like to hold on a second.
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You can find like the
2:13:15
John C Dvorak: non birthing
caretaker. I like the the Mao
2:13:18
misused monks ship by Perry. Non
happy non burning caregiver day.
2:13:26
Yeah,
2:13:26
Adam Curry: with my piece I like
Yes. And
2:13:28
John C Dvorak: and you just
thought it was a mess. And it
2:13:30
was in you're colorblind and you
couldn't see it. And it was you
2:13:33
didn't like it anyway. And then
then you had no other choice.
2:13:38
And then
2:13:39
Adam Curry: hold on, hold on. I
said it's a mess. But I said
2:13:46
then I said, but that may be
because it's a lot of dots and
2:13:49
colors that I have issues with
with my so called color
2:13:52
blindness. And we kind of left
it at that because then we both
2:13:56
looked at the Scaramanga piece
2:13:58
John C Dvorak: Oh yeah, there's
no dig is hadn't showed it's a
2:14:01
beautiful piece it really the
one I got my pick was based on
2:14:05
the humor kind of of it. Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah. belittling the
2:14:10
holiday somewhat.
2:14:13
Adam Curry: Which is always
Yeah, we don't like to belittle
2:14:15
the holiday we are tradition.
Heaven forbid
2:14:17
John C Dvorak: we do that
2:14:18
Adam Curry: traditional man. You
got the robot you can follow
2:14:22
along and no agenda art
generator.com You can become an
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artist yourself and just create
an account upload the nodes and
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art generator.com It's not an
easy task. This these artists do
2:14:31
this while listening live. And
so the minute we're done, no, I
2:14:34
literally I, I find an opening
clip. And I've marked them
2:14:38
during the during the show. We
decide on that we do the
2:14:41
credits, and then we go to the
artwork. And then you know, by
2:14:44
the end, we hope to have
everything in we give the
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artists a couple extra minutes
there to finish up. So it's not
2:14:50
an easy thing to do. But if if
you've got the skills, then you
2:14:54
know that
2:14:56
John C Dvorak: yeah, it's kind
of
2:14:57
Adam Curry: Father's Day because
you always get these new sound
2:15:00
machines and then you just
overdo it. use them sparingly.
2:15:03
This one sounds like a bagpipe
being
2:15:10
John C Dvorak: a cost. Maybe guy
just for me it is a turkey call.
2:15:13
Yeah.
2:15:15
Adam Curry: Because it sounds
like a turkey.
2:15:17
John C Dvorak: Does you ever do
you get turkeys around here and
2:15:19
they yell at you they make
noises.
2:15:21
Adam Curry: Okay, so I want you
to go out after the show and
2:15:25
Luer a turkey and with that,
okay?
2:15:30
John C Dvorak: Do we all have
the front yard, I'll take a
2:15:31
picture.
2:15:32
Adam Curry: If you're using a
modern podcast app, you'll see
2:15:35
all of these different pieces of
artwork, as they most of them
2:15:37
get displayed in the chapters,
which Dred Scott does for us
2:15:40
another great valuable addition
to the show. And we appreciate
2:15:43
that. So when you're driving,
you will see these just, you
2:15:46
know, changing as as chapters
and topics change and he takes a
2:15:50
lot of the artwork from no
agenda, and probably most of the
2:15:52
artwork from no agenda Art
Generator. So thank you very
2:15:54
much, Francisco Scaramanga and
all of the artists who submit
2:15:58
their work, we appreciate it,
and we hope everybody gets their
2:16:02
shot at the leaderboard, no
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2:16:05
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Associate Executive producers
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with Stephen Hutto from St.
Petersburg, Florida $452 And I'm
2:16:49
not sure why that amount but he
sent us a picture of his
2:16:53
odometer which said
33,300 33,300 miles and he says
2:17:02
I knew it was time to donate
when I saw the odometer courtesy
2:17:04
of my 2017 Lexus SUV. He does
not drive a lot I guess 33,000
2:17:11
Miles doesn't seem like a lot
for first six years does it
2:17:17
John C Dvorak: 5000 miles a year
yeah. sappy unless you have a
2:17:20
commute that's pretty common.
Yeah. And he says no jingles no
2:17:24
karma so my mileage I don't
drive it
2:17:27
Adam Curry: no no jingles no
karma so we will not give you
2:17:30
jingles or Karma. Thank you very
much for your support.
2:17:33
John C Dvorak: He keeps come in
before and it's I haven't heard
2:17:36
him for a while. I'm glad to
hear from him. Bowman McMahon
2:17:40
and Utopia Texas came in with
233 3.33 donations. Which makes
2:17:45
me wonder if was a mistake and
is no note to be found anywhere
2:17:49
even though Jays like freaked
out about it. So we don't know
2:17:53
what I love.
2:17:54
Adam Curry: She goes. Check your
emails. check emails, gentlemen,
2:17:59
there's no no there's two of
these donations. It does seem
2:18:02
kind of weird. You'd have two
identical donations and no
2:18:07
notes. So
2:18:08
John C Dvorak: I've taken it.
I'm of the opinion that we're
2:18:10
going to end up losing half of
this money.
2:18:12
Adam Curry: That's okay. Well,
we're happy to return it if that
2:18:14
was a mistake. Yeah.
2:18:15
John C Dvorak: And I also know
it would be nice to read
2:18:18
anything he has to say
2:18:19
Adam Curry: given the double up
karma that we usually hand out
2:18:21
and he's got
2:18:25
John C Dvorak: Where is where is
in fact, utopia? Texas.
2:18:30
Adam Curry: I don't know. I
don't know. It's not I don't
2:18:33
think it's actually that far
from here. To be honest,
2:18:36
John C Dvorak: you're a rocket
Texas's No. No, Texas big men
2:18:40
that rocket Texas.
2:18:41
Adam Curry: What did you do in
rocket Texas?
2:18:43
John C Dvorak: Well, that's
where they had the big giant
2:18:45
Super Collider. They were
building and I was given a tour
2:18:47
of it.
2:18:48
Adam Curry: Is it still there?
No, no, it's
2:18:50
John C Dvorak: once it this is
George Bush project out who is
2:18:53
the George Bush? Ronald Reagan.
I can't remember whoever was I
2:18:57
think Obama killed it or Clinton
kill it. One of them someone
2:19:00
killed Democrats killed it?
Because it was it was good
2:19:03
because it was gonna work. And
so when I was in rocket, Texas
2:19:07
that's when I was introduced to
some to some of the greatest
2:19:12
chicken fried steak at some Cafe
Cafe whose name I forgotten in
2:19:16
rocket Texas.
2:19:18
Adam Curry: Yeah, we definitely
could not have anything like
2:19:20
that working that would ruin the
oil industry. Why even do it in
2:19:23
Texas, you know nuts.
2:19:25
John C Dvorak: When I was for
research purposes, it wasn't
2:19:28
really going to hurt the oil
industry. But anyway, onward
2:19:31
Adam Curry: Chris angler in
Ancaster Ontario. Candidate
2:19:36
we're already at Associate
Executive Producer $250.73 I
2:19:41
wonder if he's a ham 70 threes
this donations Reese is donation
2:19:45
is a 50th birthday gift to
myself a belated Happy birthday
2:19:48
to my nephew Eli and a Happy
belated Father's Day to my dad
2:19:52
Fritz. I'd appreciate a
birthday. foamer jingle go
2:19:55
podcasting.
2:19:57
Unknown: Oh my god. To
2:20:02
Adam Curry: go Happy Birthday if
he isn't him by the way, this
2:20:07
Saturday is Field Day. So you
got to be breaking out the rig.
2:20:11
Got to be hey got your rigs
people get on battery power
2:20:15
John C Dvorak: shirt Christopher
and l rod Alabama. tu tu tu ro
2:20:20
ducts tu tu tu tu tu tu
switcheroo to honor my smokin
2:20:25
hot wife Kim for her birthday on
the 23rd You got it can I get a
2:20:30
biscuit for her birthday? They
always give me a biscuit on my
2:20:33
birthday and all the Sharpton
you can bear thank you both for
2:20:38
all you do Sir Christopher
Knight of this just sipsey
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Valley
2:20:43
Adam Curry: and I guess just Kim
right because we don't have a
2:20:47
hit Sir Christopher I guess
that's his first name so we're
2:20:50
just putting Kim Sir Sir loud
pipes in Charlotte North
2:20:54
Carolina also short ROA ducks
two to two
2:20:57
John C Dvorak: don't have any he
didn't give a miss sharp didn't
2:21:00
jingle I'm sorry
2:21:01
Adam Curry: I misunderstood I
had no I didn't misunderstand I
2:21:06
just didn't listen. That's what
I did wrong.
2:21:14
Unknown: ESP I see T
2:21:16
Adam Curry: is just such a
classic and always can always
2:21:19
bear so loud pipes Charlotte
North Carolina also the short
2:21:22
road ducks to 22 dot 22 Road
ducks for the cause I have not
2:21:26
heard this in a while but I
needed D douche bag check. Oh,
2:21:29
hold on a second. bag check that
we had a jingle for that de
2:21:35
douche bag check.
2:21:38
John C Dvorak: It was bag Jack.
Doors bag check
2:21:46
Adam Curry: so we needed that
first buddy Jay onward, sir.
2:21:49
Loud pipes Baron of Mecklenburg
County. Thank you very much.
2:21:54
John C Dvorak: John Spigel
especially pronounced Spiegel it
2:21:59
looks like Spiegel but it's
pronounced Spiegel? Rochester,
2:22:02
New York. Switcheroo I'm making
this Father's Day donation to my
2:22:07
dad's name. Steven Spiegel. We
both have been listening to show
2:22:10
for a couple of years and we
regret that it took so long to
2:22:13
find it. Yeah, thanks everyone.
Longtime to find it. It's a
2:22:17
podcast. Please de douche.
Hamish
2:22:21
Unknown: you've been de deuced
2:22:25
John C Dvorak: this donation is
the least I can do and does not
2:22:28
the least you can do you could
do a lot man I always do the
2:22:32
least for the man that
introduced me to the three most
2:22:35
important things in my life
Jesus Christ critical thinking
2:22:38
and skiing please hit him with
some help Sharpton resist very
2:22:44
much and the Jide jingles. Happy
Father's Day to my dad and to
2:22:50
all the fathers out there and
thank you, John and Adam and
2:22:55
keep up the good work John
Spiele Rochester New York but
2:22:58
resist
2:22:59
Unknown: we must. We must and we
will much about that. Becoming a
2:23:07
GOP inviting is escalating.
Political says Democrats are
2:23:13
outright Jide free to watch the
GOP and pro
2:23:17
Adam Curry: so I'm looking for
these. What do you remember this
2:23:20
one? Yeah, I'm gonna put that in
the end of show. That's like a
2:23:27
minute. That's
2:23:27
John C Dvorak: a good good song.
Yeah, yeah, I'm
2:23:29
Adam Curry: gonna put that in
the end of show. That's pretty
2:23:30
funny. Okay, do that. Do Can you
do the next one? Well, I put
2:23:34
this in Yeah, Linda
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Unknown: jobs, jobs, jobs and
jobs That's karma.
2:24:05
And
2:24:07
John C Dvorak: yes, we wind it
up with Yeah, last on the list
2:24:09
is crystal blindness blindness.
In Jackson, Wyoming, no note. So
2:24:15
that's 200 bucks and give him a
double up karma.
2:24:17
Adam Curry: You got it. There we
go. You've got karma. Well,
2:24:23
spoiler alert. Spoiler alert. We
have no nice things today.
2:24:28
Again, yes, again, and we can go
pretty quickly. There's not a
2:24:31
lot of there's not a lot
actually. So if you just take us
2:24:33
through the 50s. We'll we'll
move on and do our birthdays and
2:24:37
and get to the second half of
the show. With a sound effect.
2:24:42
John C Dvorak: All right, we'll
start with Deborah. The shad TA
2:24:46
and or shelter Shetler, the
Shetler as she is in for 150
2:24:52
bucks and I have to read this
because switcheroo I'm donating
2:24:55
as a douche de douching birthday
gift to the love of my life.
2:25:00
Mike mesic turned me on to your
show. Tell him his koala loves
2:25:06
him very much. To give me the
division.
2:25:11
Unknown: You've been de deuced
2:25:15
John C Dvorak: Alright, there we
go is hacking, hacking hacking
2:25:19
hacking, which is pronounced
some other way I can get the
2:25:23
Adam Curry: heck off I can hack
an activist Andreessen is hacker
2:25:27
was Andreessen is good to know.
It's Andreessen I know I have it
2:25:32
on good authority.
2:25:34
John C Dvorak: Portland, Oregon.
Sorry to hear that part. $150
2:25:39
laughed out loud when he heard
us trying to pronounce his name,
2:25:42
Jason Bible, or bibble Oh by,
2:25:46
Adam Curry: actually his
donation Haqqani is a switcheroo
2:25:48
for his brother, Mads K Oh,
sorry, I
2:25:52
John C Dvorak: should have read
that. It's gonna match Mads K
2:25:54
Adam Curry: and he's got a
birthday coming up. So that's
2:25:57
why he switch routed and we'll
make it so.
2:26:00
John C Dvorak: Jason by Bible in
Austin, Texas. 120 12 Mary Smith
2:26:04
and Stuart, Florida $100. Robin,
sir Steve in San Jose,
2:26:10
California. $100 is a switch
your route for Peter Boyle Jr.
2:26:15
Last night again, his
2:26:16
Adam Curry: wife lost their
beloved companion of 17 years
2:26:18
Ben the cat.
2:26:20
John C Dvorak: Oh, seven years
is a long time for a cat. Yeah,
2:26:23
Adam Curry: that is a lot. It is
a long time for a cat
2:26:25
John C Dvorak: II and field $100
SHAN mountain in Nuevo
2:26:30
California $100 Ben Lillard in
Prosper Texas. 8888. Sir Kevin
2:26:36
McLaughlin never misses a beat
and here he is from locust North
2:26:39
Carolina with 808 Boobs. Jason
maror in Vancouver, Washington a
2:26:48
Oh, eight more boobs. Richard
Hufford in Tempe Arizona. A oh
2:26:53
eight boobs. Rita Harrington in
Sparks Nevada 6533. Alex and jet
2:27:04
of daven is in Czechoslovakia.
2:27:08
Adam Curry: Giovanni I'll say
Jed of Nietzsche
2:27:13
John C Dvorak: is in Chechnya.
Yes. 606. CZ used to be check
2:27:19
those logs see catchy and
nowadays, not the Czech
2:27:22
Republic.
2:27:23
Adam Curry: I think Alex is I
think Alex is one of our trans
2:27:26
listeners. Oh, trans trans
jester
2:27:32
John C Dvorak: John pij toss in
karuna, Michigan. 60 submode pet
2:27:39
in memory Louisiana. 5866 got a
birthday coming up. Jacob long
2:27:48
in Latin Burg Pennsylvania 5433
and 5432 is the switcheroo for
2:27:54
his dad. Jim Bob.
2:27:56
Adam Curry: I just got to go
back to see boat. Boat is
2:28:00
getting to that age when I start
to put my affairs in order. I
2:28:04
was researching donating my body
to a medical school right when I
2:28:08
heard the story about the rat.
No agenda. I took it as a omen
2:28:12
to donate about the heads. This
2:28:17
John C Dvorak: desk yeah see
2:28:18
Adam Curry: we will saving you
have a humiliation.
2:28:22
John C Dvorak: Can you do should
dad JimBob Yes I can. Do deuced
2:28:32
serratus murky are notorious
Brahmin and Culpeper, Virginia,
2:28:38
as I guess he also works for the
agency 5271 Brian Richardson in
2:28:44
Aurora, Illinois 5069 and wants
us to mention
2:28:48
Adam Curry: the Aurora Illinois
meetup coming up on the 25th Don
2:28:55
he's
2:28:55
John C Dvorak: on the list. Go
to no agenda meetups.com Bob
2:28:59
Butland coming ga 5069 is in
north Georgia meet up tonight
2:29:04
two miles in Charlottesville,
Virginia 5033 forest Martin 5005
2:29:09
Madison Thurman in long Ville
Washington 5001 Another
2:29:14
switcheroo please add Nate
Thurman add to Nate thermos
2:29:18
knighthood Okay, well, he can do
that too. Joe Oswald and Lithia
2:29:22
Florida 50 Oh, here we go. These
are all $50 donors that start
2:29:26
with Joe Oswald and go on to
Chris Cowan in Austin, Texas.
2:29:30
Andrew busick. In Greensboro,
North Carolina, Mason Thurman in
2:29:33
Longville. Washington Christie
Jones. Oh, Nate TermInfo
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switcheroo to is for as Mason
term is for Nate Berman Christie
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Jones and Demarest Georgia. Matt
Illingworth in Montclair, New
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Unknown: No one said
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Adam Curry: no agenda meetups,
the companion to listening to
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the program. Without it. You are
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Go to one of the no agenda
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groups that are on telegram and
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other other networks, Discord
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people self organize. Then when
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Scott, Baron Scott man, he was
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people. So remember to do that.
No agenda meetups. We have a
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2:33:57
Unknown: sir Scott the Jew here
at the Selkirk Abbey once again
2:34:00
in North Idaho and dude,
honestly, this meetup kind of
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sucks because Dana Brunetti is
not here. I don't see any trans
2:34:06
jester people.
2:34:07
There's nobody playing the sitar
ITM from Serge JMO black bear in
2:34:12
North Idaho need to make it to
more of these meetups this has
2:34:15
just been an awesome night sir
debo here shapeshifting back to
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the land of Bob Dylan be back in
September
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that trains good lanes bad.
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Lane epic Mita
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sur Devo played the bagpipe and
2:34:34
I missed it. Yeah, they
2:34:35
Adam Curry: sent me pictures or
Devo actually did play the
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anywhere else at a no agenda
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But on the ninth of July, there
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2:35:58
Unknown: Sometimes you want to
go hang out with Dyson days.
2:36:05
You'd be you'd be everybody say
is like a pot.
2:36:18
Adam Curry: It is just like a
pot. I only have two ISOs I
2:36:23
don't think they're very good
yet. What do you have?
2:36:26
John C Dvorak: I only have one
ISO Well, let
2:36:28
Adam Curry: me play your one.
Nice. Oh, here I have it. Okay,
2:36:30
let's listen to it.
2:36:31
Unknown: Hush up, boy.
2:36:34
Adam Curry: Okay, I kind of
liked that one. I have it's
2:36:38
chicken. Now it's not
understandable. This one? Yeah.
2:36:45
No, I think hotshot boy wins.
Hands down. Hush up boy. Yeah.
2:36:50
Not racist at all. Love it.
Biden. Biden, Biden. The gang
2:36:57
keeps on giving. Yeah, he's the
gangsta. You may be right about
2:37:00
that. I like how you figured
that one out. So I wanted to
2:37:05
read these two notes. Cuz they
came in almost back to back
2:37:11
about ups. You know, so they're
talking about their strike. And
2:37:17
you remember we talked about
this write ups. He says this is
2:37:21
UPS Chris. In the morning, John.
I'm running this boots on the
2:37:24
ground report regarding Adams
recent coverage of the impending
2:37:26
UPS strike. I'm relatively new
member of the teamsters union as
2:37:30
a full time driver at UPS for
two years. Your deconstruction
2:37:33
of this segment was superb. The
key issue did mention is that
2:37:36
the corruption past present the
corrupt past president of the
2:37:39
Union, James Hoffa was able to
push through a contract in 2018,
2:37:43
the members had voted down by
54%. This two thirds rule has
2:37:47
since been abolished by the
current president of the Union
2:37:49
Sean O'Brien. This contract
allowed the company to implement
2:37:52
two tiered wage system for full
time drivers COVID conveniently
2:37:55
happened and then the company
which it typically never does
2:37:58
started to hire tons of new full
timers off the street due to
2:38:01
massive increase in volume. The
full time rate as a driver after
2:38:05
four years at UPS is $42.50 an
hour. Due to the sketchy
2:38:09
language in the current
contract. There are full time
2:38:12
drivers doing the same work for
significantly less about 20 to
2:38:16
25 an hour, so we see the
disparity here. Now these are
2:38:19
still good rates. But the key
here is to see through what the
2:38:21
media portrays as wins for the
Union. No one mentions no
2:38:26
mention of increasing pensions
increasing part time or paid to
2:38:29
offset the massive turnover,
creating more even paying full
2:38:32
time jobs etc. And the air
conditioning is indeed a joke.
2:38:36
We love our jobs. We drive with
the doors open in and out
2:38:39
hundreds of times a day. We
don't need a see any veteran
2:38:42
driver can show the way when it
comes to cooling down off the
2:38:46
job. So then I got a note from
an an Amazon UPS Honda driver.
2:38:53
And he says, Oh yeah, I want to
give you boots on the ground.
2:38:56
Amazon drivers that are using
their Honda's to deliver
2:38:59
packages for no money is
absolutely true. This is a UPS
2:39:03
outsources the Amazon packages
that UPS is supposed to deliver
2:39:07
to these guys and they're
Honda's, I'm one of them. The
2:39:10
way it works is Amazon has a sub
contracting program called
2:39:13
Amazon flex. They touted to be
the greatest gig ever work when
2:39:17
you want to earn $22 an hour.
But what they do not tell you is
2:39:21
they only offer work in two
three and four hour blocks. So
2:39:24
getting a full day's work is
next to impossible. And you want
2:39:27
to spend some more time checking
for the offers than working
2:39:30
them. They over hire to keep a
liquid workforce and offer
2:39:34
distribution. In first come
first serve. You're battling
2:39:38
people for the offers. If you
see an offer on your phone, then
2:39:41
a bunch of other people see the
same thing. The first one to
2:39:43
accept it gets it. It's almost
like bidding war over the work
2:39:46
that they can keep the base rate
for blacks very low. They treat
2:39:50
you like a delivery drone. So he
has this very long note which
2:39:53
I'm not going to read all
verbatim but he says that at
2:39:56
first when you start the program
you get all these offers and Do
2:40:00
you get oh, like, oh, Whole
Foods three blocks away, this is
2:40:03
great. And then the offers start
to dry up. And he says, you
2:40:09
know, then all sudden, I get a
four hour warehouse block where
2:40:12
I have to drive for two hours
and 100 miles for $66.
2:40:17
Basically, I'm driving for free.
And of course, once you accept
2:40:20
one, it's like Uber, you know,
it's like, oh, here comes offer,
2:40:23
boom, you go. And then you start
not getting these pieces of
2:40:27
work. And here's the problem. He
found out that there's no secure
2:40:33
connection, as he calls it
between the offers and the app
2:40:36
that you use to, to hit the
offers with. And there's a whole
2:40:41
bunch of bots and app bots that
can use SERP this, these offers
2:40:48
before it goes into alert mode
on the phone. So typically, now
2:40:53
you've got your phone on, you
get a bloop you get alert, you
2:40:55
tap on it, you try and get it
right away. And it's always
2:40:58
gone. That's because they
figured out you know,
2:41:01
unscrupulous individuals have
figured out how to grab that
2:41:05
before it becomes alert and
they're scooping up all the
2:41:08
money. And he says this thing is
a total scam. In addition to
2:41:15
that, all the call centers are
outsourced to India. So if
2:41:18
something doesn't work, or
something's gone wrong, I can't
2:41:20
communicate with the people.
They don't understand me. I
2:41:24
don't understand him them. And
he gives a whole bunch of links
2:41:27
to GitHub repos if you want to
get on and get in on the scam
2:41:31
and get those offers early. But
this is not sound like the ups
2:41:35
that we that we love and adore.
As the you know, the King of
2:41:40
Queens type type job is just you
know, they're diluting it into
2:41:44
cheap gig work, which is
probably why a lot of the
2:41:47
packages and delivery sucks. I
think these two gentlemen for
2:41:52
the courage for bringing us the
boots on the ground, we never
2:41:56
would have known about this.
Okay. Then I have some climate
2:42:04
change stuff we need to discuss.
Actually, I'm sorry. I'm sorry.
2:42:09
We can do climate change bill. I
could do climate change now.
2:42:13
Actually a balloon do some big
pharma as better. I'll do it.
2:42:18
What time are we at? Yeah, I'll
do just a couple here. Dr. Jen,
2:42:23
Dr. Janice, Judy, all about the
new COVID shots coming this
2:42:26
fall. Get ready, everybody,
you'll want to have them you
2:42:29
want to be getting right in on
that action?
2:42:31
Unknown: All right, we're
talking about a new vaccine,
2:42:33
pretty much an update for COVID.
So let me tee this up for you
2:42:37
guys. Remember how when there
was all this confusion about
2:42:41
which vaccine when to get the
vaccine, the booster, the new
2:42:45
variant version, all of this as
it was evolving over the last
2:42:49
three years. Now we have word
from the FDA that we can expect
2:42:53
in this country this fall to
have a newer COVID-19 vaccine
2:42:58
that incorporates the latest
circulating strains just as we
2:43:03
do with the influenza vaccine,
which is good news right because
2:43:06
before we had the bio valent
booster we were still using the
2:43:10
same vaccine from the original
wild type Coronavirus genetic
2:43:16
fingerprint.
2:43:17
Adam Curry: Notice what she says
from the original wild type
2:43:20
Coronavirus, genetic
fingerprint, ie you didn't have
2:43:24
the virus
2:43:25
Unknown: from the original wild
type Coronavirus, genetic
2:43:30
fingerprint, we need to evolve
the vaccines to be current with
2:43:34
the strains that are
circulating. So
2:43:37
Adam Curry: just didn't they
have all these? Oh, this new
2:43:40
booster is upgraded for the
Omicron this new beat this what
2:43:44
they did? Yeah, now all of a
sudden we were still using the
2:43:47
old Wild
2:43:50
Unknown: forces Dr. Jim vaccine
from the original wild type
2:43:55
Coronavirus, genetic
fingerprint, we need to evolve
2:43:59
the vaccines to be current with
the strains that are
2:44:02
circulating. So x bb 1.5, as if
that doesn't just roll off the
2:44:07
tip of your tongue that's most
likely going to be in the fall
2:44:11
version. But they have to make
this calculated guesstimate as
2:44:14
to what will be circulating. But
I
2:44:17
Adam Curry: want guesstimate
Yeah, just like the flu vaccine
2:44:19
is one a guesstimate
2:44:21
Unknown: calculated guesstimate
as to what will be circulating
2:44:24
in the country. Now the benefit
of this new mRNA technology is
2:44:28
that within 100
2:44:30
John C Dvorak: We have a new
mRNA technology now. Yeah, it's
2:44:33
called
2:44:33
Adam Curry: guesstimate.
2:44:36
Unknown: It's a guestimation
going on
2:44:38
John C Dvorak: and on about
nothing
2:44:40
Unknown: to what will be
circulating in the country. Now
2:44:42
the benefit of this new mRNA
technology is that within 100
2:44:46
days, we should be able to turn
around a vaccine according to
2:44:50
the circulating strain within
100 days, yeah, three months
2:44:54
about that time but they're
already working on the one that
2:44:57
we should be able to be getting
in the fall. So
2:44:59
you mentioned that flu vaccine
and how we get to every fall,
2:45:02
this is going to become just one
of those things we get. Yes,
2:45:04
exactly. Unless you're in a high
risk group and then you might
2:45:07
need a more frequently, but I
cannot emphasize this enough. So
2:45:10
many, so few Americans have
died.
2:45:13
Adam Curry: Well, if you're,
well, you're a high risk group.
2:45:15
You know, your whatever that is,
I guess,
2:45:17
John C Dvorak: boosters or
booster shots is shot. What do
2:45:19
you need more than one
2:45:21
Adam Curry: because you're a
high risk group. We need to kill
2:45:23
you.
2:45:24
Unknown: assizes enough. So
many. So few Americans have
2:45:27
gotten that by valent booster.
It's part of the reason why it
2:45:30
was quite Vaillant have dropped
down so much.
2:45:33
John C Dvorak: By valent.
2:45:36
Adam Curry: This interesting
question, why don't you toot
2:45:39
your horn every single time she
says it? Okay, I'm sorry with
2:45:42
the horn a little much. You
know, it's baggy trousers. It's
2:45:48
a little much. Anyway. Well, so
by violent by valence, whatever.
2:45:52
But on Sunday, they had the
Today Show with the longest
2:45:58
native ad I've ever seen. What
did you put it on the timer?
2:46:03
Yeah, I was like seven minutes.
doll that's beyond a native ad.
2:46:07
It's all native ad and that's
like buying it, you know, buying
2:46:10
time? Yes. Well, if you listened
to and I only clipped a couple
2:46:14
minutes of it. I just had to
stop. I think it's an overall
2:46:18
industry native ad from Nova
novo, Novartis, novo, Novartis,
2:46:22
they are the inventors of
semaglutide schmegle, lead
2:46:27
submission management and Lego
tide, which is used by
2:46:32
John C Dvorak: we make it sound
like some sort of, yes, that's
2:46:34
correct.
2:46:35
Adam Curry: Which is used by
ozempic and we go V, but the
2:46:39
emphasis was on ozempic. They
did throw in some will go V, but
2:46:44
they really said you know,
parent company. And we know from
2:46:48
the UK that the parent company
Novartis was caught marketing
2:46:53
and paying for marketing, which
is illegal in the UK. Here is
2:47:00
just regular old business. Oh,
yeah. Doing business as usual.
2:47:04
So listen, how the music changes
how the how the you know what
2:47:08
the doctors are saying? Because
that Where'd you get this again,
2:47:13
let's
2:47:13
John C Dvorak: backup today show
the sun today show Sunday.
2:47:15
Additionally, music over the
segment on the Today Show.
2:47:22
Unknown: In December of 2017,
and medication for the treatment
2:47:26
of type two diabetes called
semaglutide was approved by the
2:47:30
FDA. It was sold under the brand
name ozempic. In recent months,
2:47:35
the drug has become a national
phenomenon for different
2:47:38
benefits, weight loss, the talk
of Hollywood, red carpets and
2:47:43
suburban bookclubs oh, by the
2:47:45
Adam Curry: way, notice he says
it was the FDA approved it but
2:47:49
there wasn't for weight loss.
They they approved it for
2:47:52
diabetes just misses that small
little detail is effective.
2:47:58
Unknown: But is it safe for
everyone who's using NBC News
2:48:01
SENIOR MEDICAL CORRESPONDENT,
Dr. John Taurus as our Sunday.
2:48:07
For decades, it's been an
obsession for millions of
2:48:10
Americans. Are you ready to do
the workout? How to drop those
2:48:14
extra pounds in the old days, it
was all about exercise and
2:48:18
eating better. But now people
looking to lose weight have a
2:48:22
new tool in their arsenal baby.
That hype is real prescription
2:48:26
drugs called semaglutide that
come in a now unmistakable pen
2:48:30
ozempic and will go V the brand
names for semaglutide drugs that
2:48:34
were developed to help people
with type two diabetes and
2:48:37
patients with obesity but with a
desirable side effects with
2:48:41
weight loss. Big names like Elon
Musk Amy Schumer and Chelsea
2:48:47
Handler have admitted taking it
and from celebrities to social
2:48:51
media influencers. This trend
has taken the weight loss right
2:48:55
by shore
2:48:56
everybody looks so great. When I
look around this room I can't
2:48:59
help but wonder is ozempic right
for
2:49:01
me. The ads from parent company
Novo Nordisk and similar ones
2:49:07
for other drugs like Manjaro
from Lilly are inescapable,
2:49:10
plastered over Instagram and
Facebook shaking up the $75
2:49:15
billion weight loss Marcus
popular programs like Weight
2:49:18
Watchers and news are joining
the craze acquiring launching
2:49:22
telehealth programs to offer the
drugs along with their diet
2:49:25
tracking subscriptions are part
of a strategy that recognizes
2:49:28
obesity as a chronic and
potentially deadly disease.
2:49:32
Adam Curry: This is so evil what
these people are doing. And they
2:49:35
throw in there. Is it safe? Yes,
great. It's a tool. It's great
2:49:38
celebrities use it. Everyone
should have it. It's fantastic.
2:49:41
Unknown: How important is that?
Weight Watchers and neum are now
2:49:45
introducing these weight loss
2:49:47
Adam Curry: drugs Weight
Watchers a neum. Get your app
2:49:49
now for their
2:49:50
Unknown: clients.
2:49:51
We can't shoulder this burden
alone and I appreciate that
2:49:54
industry is trying to step up to
the plate.
2:49:56
Adam Curry: Wow. Industry is
trying to step up to the plate
2:50:00
ate. Thank you industry. Thank
you Weight Watchers that you
2:50:04
really are helping humanity
2:50:07
Unknown: works by mimicking a
gut hormone called glucagon like
2:50:10
peptide one or GLP. One, which
regulates insulin levels reduces
2:50:15
appetite and allows patients to
feel fuller longer, the higher
2:50:19
dosage marketed as well. govi
has been FDA approved to treat
2:50:22
people who are overweight or
obese, but is not recommended
2:50:26
for people who don't meet that
standard. With some doctors
2:50:29
sounding the alarm on using all
the Gog for vanity,
2:50:33
you're doing this for short term
gain, you're not going to get
2:50:36
that long term benefit and that
sustained success that we want
2:50:39
for patients that actually do
struggle with disease.
2:50:42
Adam Curry: So it's a disease.
If you if you're not really
2:50:46
overweight, you just want to
look great, then you use the
2:50:49
ozempic. Otherwise, you've got
the Wigo V. These people are
2:50:53
shameless, then Oh, and by the
way, here's where you can get
2:50:56
it. neum and weightwatchers. i
This is where I stopped it. This
2:51:02
is the problem. This is the
problem right here. And I'm I'm
2:51:06
going to say right now put it in
the Red Book. We're going to
2:51:09
find out that oh, yeah, it turns
out people who use ozempic And
2:51:13
we'll go we did dying I didn't
expect that. I just feels like
2:51:18
it's another death thing. Well,
the
2:51:21
John C Dvorak: problem is the
way I see it. The way I see it,
2:51:26
it was just approved What 2019
2:51:29
Adam Curry: It was not with Gopi
was only recently approved.
2:51:33
John C Dvorak: By me saying this
this basic, the basic the base
2:51:37
Yeah, the other one, which is
the high dose, it's like well,
2:51:39
okay, whatever basic product
2:51:41
Adam Curry: for for diabetes was
approved react in 2019.
2:51:45
John C Dvorak: Well, that's not
enough time. That's not even 10
2:51:48
years of data. Don't know what's
gonna happen, your hair could
2:51:51
fall out. I mean, there are side
effects already including
2:51:54
pancreatitis, unis. That
aggravation.
2:51:57
Adam Curry: In fact, hair hair
loss is one of the reported
2:52:00
John C Dvorak: hair loss is a
business issue until people
2:52:03
shouldn't be taken anything
that's this drastic, which is
2:52:07
drastic. Okay. Yeah. Okay. Okay.
2:52:10
Adam Curry: Now, but it's also
it's also you know, it's, it's
2:52:13
like the epitome it's, it's
Idiocracy. But I'm eating crap.
2:52:20
I got fat.
2:52:21
Unknown: Give me a shot. You
watch you stop eating,
2:52:23
Adam Curry: or are you trying to
eat try and eat something
2:52:25
healthy? You don't hear Dr. Jenn
talking about that. Huh? Anyway,
2:52:36
the way the healthcare works in
the United States, this would be
2:52:40
my last clip is, is as the
following. It's all about the
2:52:43
money people. Never saw Perez
2:52:46
Unknown: had a virulent case of
COVID and pneumonia when she
2:52:48
arrived at this HCA hospital in
2021. She was just 42 years old.
2:52:54
Doctors put her on a ventilator
and into a coma. But after
2:52:58
kidney failure and a series of
mini strokes common and COVID.
2:53:02
About a month after her
admission, common in COVID, DAF
2:53:05
began urging her mother Alma
Salas to transfer her daughter
2:53:09
to end of life care and let her
die.
2:53:13
I felt like he was trying to
pressure me Hey, do you really
2:53:16
want to live your life taking
care of your daughter in a
2:53:18
vegetative state for the next 30
years?
2:53:22
I slipped down I'm an acid. I'm
not gonna do it. I'm not gonna
2:53:26
let her go.
2:53:28
Another time she says six or
seven HCA staff members gathered
2:53:31
at her daughter's bedside urging
her to enter treatment. One
2:53:35
nurse Allah says was very
aggressive and came in
2:53:38
repeatedly
2:53:39
Sheila really angry I was like
taken aback.
2:53:43
The pressure solace describes
existed some of HCA other 170
2:53:47
Plus hospitals, staff are
pressed to get patients into
2:53:51
hospice, where life saving
treatments are withdrawn. And
2:53:54
the incentive is not necessarily
patient care, but the
2:53:58
improvement of hospital
performance metrics. Because if
2:54:02
a patient dies in hospice, even
in the same hospital bed, their
2:54:06
death will not be counted in the
hospital's mortality statistics,
2:54:11
a key factor used by those who
rate hospital quality and the
2:54:15
better the rating the better for
business. Yeah.
2:54:20
Adam Curry: Kill them. Just kill
them. Kill them, kill them, kill
2:54:24
them. All right now you have to
get us out of here with
2:54:28
something upbeat, uplifting and
fun.
2:54:32
John C Dvorak: Well, I have a
few things left. Let's go into
2:54:36
how we can do this. This. This
is not uplifting or a beat or
2:54:40
downbeat. This is not bad. This
is just interesting to me. Okay.
2:54:46
But then again, let's skipped
out just for the next show.
2:54:49
Blinken on Taiwan. This is
Blinken selling out the United
2:54:52
States and selling out Taiwan to
Taiwan thing is never going to
2:54:55
there's never going to be a war
over Taiwan
2:54:57
Unknown: on Taiwan are
reiterated the longest Adding us
2:55:00
one China policy, that policy
has not changed. It's guided by
2:55:05
the Taiwan Relations Act. Three,
joint communique is the sixth
2:55:09
assurances, we do not support
Taiwan independence, we remain
2:55:12
opposed to any unilateral
changes to the status quo by
2:55:15
either side. We continue to
expect the peaceful resolution
2:55:20
of cross strait differences.
2:55:21
Adam Curry: I don't understand
this. You have to explain. I
2:55:24
have heard this I'll be like
what, how does this even work?
2:55:27
Like we do try no lawyer the
minute the minute do anything,
2:55:31
Taiwan, we're gonna we want to
get our F 16 is just we're gonna
2:55:33
do an amendment. And now it's
like, well, but no, it's like,
2:55:36
we don't support China as being
independent. How does this work?
2:55:42
John C Dvorak: They don't
support it. There's a document
2:55:45
that we signed some years ago, I
guess, that the Chinese have
2:55:49
thrown in our face and said,
Hey, look, you you're not going
2:55:53
to support. Hey, look, you're
not going to support Taiwanese
2:55:57
independence. You shouldn't be
talking so much about it. You're
2:55:59
talking too much. And so this is
Blinken 's okay, we're going to
2:56:03
talk about it anymore. And he
got a little kicker in there,
2:56:06
which is that ever the status
quo, which is the main thing he
2:56:08
went around, nobody's talking
about that. But which is a good
2:56:12
thing, because status quo means
nothing's going to change. But
2:56:16
it still sounds like a weenie
the guy's a weenie.
2:56:20
Adam Curry: I do have something
that will be fun to listen to.
2:56:23
From the Irish Green Party,
Senator Paulino Riley. There is
2:56:28
an act that is being set up. I
guess it's only in Ireland, the
2:56:33
incitement to violence act. And
with incitement to violence, it
2:56:39
basically means if you make
someone feel bad, I think we'll
2:56:43
listen to this short clip when
you
2:56:45
Unknown: think about it, or law,
or legislation is about the
2:56:50
restriction of freedom. That's
exactly what we're doing here is
2:56:53
we are restricting freedom, but
we're doing it for the common
2:56:56
good. You will see throughout
our Constitution, yes, you have
2:57:00
rights, or they are restricted
for the common good. Everything
2:57:04
needs to be balanced. And if
your views on other people's
2:57:08
identities, go to make their
lives unsafe or insecure, and
2:57:15
cause them such deep discomfort
that they cannot live in peace,
2:57:20
then I believe that it is our
job as legislators to restrict
2:57:24
those freedoms for the common
good.
2:57:26
Adam Curry: And so the what I
heard is, if you don't use
2:57:31
someone's pronouns, which of
course is violence, then you're
2:57:35
going to be penalized by the law
exactly what she said. And I
2:57:40
would like to remind everybody
in the United States we have the
2:57:44
Constitution and the Bill of
Rights and the amendments and
2:57:49
it's all meant to restrict
government not to restrict your
2:57:52
rights you have the rights is to
restrict the the restrict the
2:57:55
government from doing anything
to your rights, which inherently
2:57:58
means all people have these
rights. So there's no such thing
2:58:02
as extra rights that anybody
needs. Am I right? Am I right
2:58:06
you're
2:58:06
John C Dvorak: dead on
2:58:11
Adam Curry: I don't know why
that happened. It's like a new a
2:58:15
new little jingle we should use
All right, everybody. For end of
2:58:23
show I've got the resists. We
much we Jide
2:58:26
John C Dvorak: though yes, I'm
great into show clips. I heard
2:58:28
him earlier. Yeah, definitely
2:58:29
Adam Curry: some good ones. We
got Jesse coy Nelson, Sir
2:58:31
Michael Anthony and Geez laughs
If you're listening to no agenda
2:58:37
stream.com toll room.io or one
of those brand new podcast apps,
2:58:44
the millennial media offensive
kicks off with bat soup chef
2:58:48
right after we're done. Which is
well worth listening to I tell
2:58:53
you and coming to you from the
heart of the Texas hill country
2:58:57
here in FEMA Region number six
in the morning, everybody. I'm
2:59:00
Adam curry,
2:59:01
John C Dvorak: and from Northern
Silicon Valley where I remain.
2:59:06
I'm Jhansi Dvorak,
2:59:07
Adam Curry: please join us again
on Sunday for another two to
2:59:11
three hour media deconstruction
were here to spin you down and
2:59:15
then spun up world. And we'd
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2:59:20
us some value with DeVore
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2:59:24
everybody. Adios mofos a hui
Hui.
2:59:36
Unknown: We interrupt your
programming to bring you this
2:59:38
breaking news
2:59:50
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first. Tesla staffers. First job
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first I love pizza. Oh first.
Kazakhstan first. First. First,
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pizza
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about about out of up, down. Up,
down, up, down. Up. Down, up,
3:00:30
down, up, up, down, down, down,
down. Down resist resist resist
3:00:48
resist and about about
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you might die. Not that many of
you are going to die, so don't
3:01:12
worry about it.
3:01:15
Go okay come on me over show.
Come on. Come on. Come on. Come
3:01:25
on.
3:01:26
Come on. Come on. Come on. All
right. God save the Queen man.
3:01:31
God save the Queen man. God save
the Queen, man go
3:01:41
Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
no, no, no, no, don't go no, no,
3:01:50
no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
don't
3:01:53
go, alright. God save the Queen.
3:02:01
All
3:02:01
over Schoen always knew that one
day we beat the mayor. 33 years
3:02:09
ago, the voice in my head told
me you finna be the most
3:02:15
powerful black and brown man of
color on the globe of New York
3:02:21
City. Behold, the process is
folks. I'd be reading about the
3:02:29
apocalypse in the Bible. Boom.
And I'm like, that's how you get
3:02:33
stuff done. The seven plagues,
Corona, monkeypox, climate
3:02:38
change, white supremacists the
Michelson theast COVID.
3:02:44
Passports and the Lake of Fire
mostly peaceful protests. I
3:02:51
don't believe in the separation
of church and state the Bible
3:02:55
say we in the end, so I'm gonna
make sure we accomplish the
3:03:00
apocalypse
3:03:02
under shelter need some say
about this? He knows we know
3:03:05
they are lying. They know they
are lying. They know we know
3:03:10
they're lying. We know they know
we know they're lying. But they
3:03:14
are still alive.
3:03:17
The cash is like picking out the
trash no sign unnecessary when
3:03:20
my software does it for me. I'm
using cookies definitely not a
3:03:24
rookie John see ahead of his
time. Just time watching fever
3:03:28
fry. That lawyer Canadian guy in
the morning was last time it was
3:03:32
sound in Canada try offends you
all senses when you put on a
3:03:36
mask? I preferred you said
you're Googling me like cast
3:03:40
crafting the narrative can be
like casting a spell did not the
3:03:43
early treatment how we got back
to the cell tape this
3:03:46
experimental treatment and do
not tell shot to the heart. I'm
3:03:50
not doing well. I like what
comedians do when standing up on
3:03:54
a stage school ballislife
disaster in the world for
3:03:56
humanitarian aid and as you
define the international crowd
3:04:00
as what they say laws must be
passed to really make Russia pay
3:04:04
more than a trillion the
confiscated today. Not given
3:04:08
that bags oh wait, podcast and
listen in the podcast too fast
3:04:13
as I can use a break like a pod
fast.
3:04:16
Adam Curry: That's all the media
has left to do. The M five F
3:04:19
hedge has boiled down to
complaining about other news
3:04:24
organizations. I think that
bores everybody.
3:04:27
John C Dvorak: The producers
want you to just do what you
3:04:30
just described. Yes. As opposed
to actually doing real work.
3:04:34
Yes. What are you gonna do? This
is great. Oh, I all I have to do
3:04:38
is get a bunch of clips of my my
compat competition and Misha by
3:04:42
Tucker Carlson. I can do that
till the cows come home.
3:04:53
Unknown: boruch.org/in A
3:04:58
hush your boy.