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John C Dvorak: You're outta
control. Adam curry, John C.
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Devora.
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Adam Curry: June 29 2023. This
Year Award winning nation media
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assassination episode 1568.
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Unknown: This is no agenda.
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Adam Curry: Laughing a grown man
who mean man broadcasting live
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from the heart of the Texas Hill
Country here. Number six in the
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morning, everybody. I'm Adam
curry.
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John C Dvorak: And for Northern
Silicon Valley, where we've all
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concluded that oat milk sucks
and Jhansi Dvorak is
0:30
Adam Curry: kill. Oh man, I even
had a misfire. oatmilk That's
0:36
right. It's not SAP. Did you
have some this morning? And
0:41
John C Dvorak: Jay seems to have
picked up some sort of an
0:43
allergy from the oat milk normal
non a to milk. Oh, boy. And so
0:49
she's drink she actually likes
oat milk. So she has some oat
0:54
milk and I say you know the
thing is add sugar to it. Don't
0:58
be me. Yeah. No, there's no
sugar in this where I got the
1:02
non sugar type taste it
1:05
Adam Curry: but at any point did
you tell her she was drinking
1:07
nuts SAP because that's just
funny.
1:11
John C Dvorak: Well, oats are
not nuts. So it's not nuts.
1:14
She's not drinking almond milk
is oat nuts.
1:18
Adam Curry: What is it? Oh, what
is an oat?
1:20
John C Dvorak: It's a sack of
grain of grain. Grain SAP. So I
1:26
taste this stuff without shoot
on sugar. Oat Milk. Yeah. Oh my
1:31
God. Is it terrible?
1:35
Adam Curry: I mean, she should
she should know better. She grew
1:39
up with you. She should be
eating healthy things like
1:41
John C Dvorak: you know, a
healthier isn't oatmeal.
1:45
Adam Curry: pancake with a with
a big egg on top. Like the
1:49
divorce special. With hashbrowns
1:54
John C Dvorak: now you're
talking to me?
1:55
Adam Curry: I know. I know. Hey,
I'm a healthy man. Bacon. Bacon.
2:00
Bacon. You know, I was just
looking at the troll room before
2:04
before we started and the trolls
are. They're they're jittery.
2:10
John C Dvorak: They're out of
control.
2:11
Adam Curry: Yeah, there's so
much going on in the world that
2:13
they they don't know what to do
with themselves. You know, so
2:16
they they meme all day long.
Give me some memes, man. And
2:21
then they say horrible things.
You can just tell what they say.
2:25
That's horrible. Oh, they just
all rap sucks. The show mixes
2:29
suck. This sucks.
2:34
Unknown: Rap sucks.
2:37
John C Dvorak: There's an
original thought. Yeah.
2:39
Adam Curry: Anyway, I understand
people are getting all spun up
2:42
over things. So we're here to
spin you down. And this was
2:46
without a doubt the most emailed
Article of the past few days.
2:51
The
2:51
Unknown: CDC is out with a new
health warning after confirming
2:54
five cases of malaria in the US
over the last two months. They
2:58
are the first malaria infections
in 20 years to be acquired
3:02
locally and not linked to travel
outside the country. Four cases
3:06
are in Florida and one in Texas.
The CDC says all of the patients
3:10
receive treatment and are
recovering. Malaria is serious,
3:13
sometimes deadly disease usually
transmitted by mosquitoes. It is
3:17
not contagious. Malaria to their
babies during pregnancy. Oh,
3:23
Adam Curry: you can pass it to
your babies during pregnant
3:24
Well, I mean, this is what
immediately happened, of course,
3:28
which we have been talking about
since episode 830 830. That's
3:35
John C Dvorak: what 2015 2002
identified the episode of some
3:40
Yeah,
3:40
Adam Curry: I'm not gonna play
it but you know, but we we've
3:42
been talking about it that long
and actually it goes back much
3:45
further. Where I'll play this
one, the second report and then
3:50
then we'll go back into the
history and we'll talk about the
3:52
what this is and what this
isn't.
3:55
Unknown: They are the pesky part
of summertime fun. From kids
3:58
camps to backyard barbecues.
Mosquitoes are often the
4:02
unwanted guest. But this
morning, the CDC is sending a
4:06
warning about mosquito
transmitted malaria cases. It
4:09
comes after state health
officials have identified five
4:12
locally acquired malaria cases
in recent weeks, four in
4:16
Florida, one in Texas, all
transmitted by mosquito bites.
4:20
What was different about this is
these happened domestically,
4:24
meaning people didn't travel
abroad and come to the US and
4:26
then get diagnosed with malaria.
Officials say there was no
4:29
evidence the case is in the two
states. In Florida all four
4:33
cases were detected in Sarasota
County. Now the entire state is
4:37
under a mosquito borne illness
advisory advice. We're really
4:40
throwing everything we have at
the situation right now. Malaria
4:44
symptoms can be similar to the
flu fever, body aches and chills
4:48
as well as headaches and nausea.
With an early diagnosis, malaria
4:52
is treatable with the help of
prescription drugs. Now the CDC
4:56
is urging doctors to be on high
alert we need
4:59
to physicians to understand that
they should have some suspicion
5:05
for malaria. And it's not
difficult to diagnose and it's
5:09
not difficult to treat
5:10
the key officials say protection
that includes wearing EPA
5:14
approved insect repellents
covering up with long sleeves
5:17
and pants, especially during
dawn and dusk when mosquitoes
5:21
are most active and getting rid
of any standing water where
5:24
mosquitoes can lay eggs.
5:26
Adam Curry: Alright, so Okay, so
Oh, five people have malaria by
5:29
the way, people used to get
malaria in America. Back in a
5:34
Little House on the Prairie she
wrote in her book on
5:36
John C Dvorak: malaria was a
huge plague all the way up
5:39
through South Carolina with the
whole now southern area was
5:43
plagued with malaria. How do we
marry a country? How do we get
5:46
rid of it? mosquito abatement
cleaning up the swamp. So
5:50
there's a lot of ways right. So
and by the way, by the way, this
5:56
story, I wonder if we could just
because of this statistics, if
6:02
there is not at least this many
cases of malaria every year for
6:07
the last decade, exactly. This
no this is what you know, this
6:11
bullcrap that is the first they
probably have two or three cases
6:15
of malaria in Florida of all
places. Every year he has random
6:19
cases, this kind of thing that
happens, of course.
6:22
Adam Curry: What is going on
here? Stop stop people. Stop
6:24
calling me Stop calling me I
can't talk. What are they doing?
6:28
That's the periodontist calling.
I got all kinds of stuff going
6:30
on. Don't worry about it.
6:31
John C Dvorak: Turn off the
phone. I normal pot. For the
6:37
remainder. I'm going to take you
6:40
Adam Curry: off the hook. Yes.
So but this is what everyone is
6:43
pointing to. This is 2022 It
sounds
6:46
Unknown: like something out of a
sci fi movie genetically
6:49
engineer mosquitoes created in a
lab and released in the wild
6:53
part of an experimental effort
to help the spread of disease.
6:56
And these biohack bugs could be
followed by billions more. Today
7:00
we're on your side investigating
why critics are concerned and
7:03
why the state is poised to
improve to approve even more
7:06
manufactured mosquito.
7:08
Adam Curry: Yes, the
manufactured mosquitoes we all
7:10
know who did it.
7:12
Unknown: Since 2021, UK based
biotech company Oxitec has
7:16
released millions of genetically
modified male Aedes aegypti
7:20
mosquitoes in the Florida Keys,
and the EPA has approved the
7:23
release of 2.4 billion more in
Monroe County and California.
7:28
Under an experimental use
permit. The lab created male
7:31
bugs carry a self limiting gene
which is intended to kill biting
7:34
females before they mature.
7:36
It's kind of a Just Add Water
scenario. Chad Huff with
7:39
the Florida Keys mosquito
control district says The hope
7:42
is that males pass the gene to
enough females to decimate the
7:45
population.
7:46
The male mosquitoes they don't
bite. They never take a blood
7:49
meal for from a human at all.
They survive on nectar. They
7:54
don't even have the mouthparts
that make it able to take blood.
7:59
He says technicians take the GMO
age the property of willing
8:03
participants and Mother Nature
does the rest. We
8:05
have a waiting list. We have
people that want to have them on
8:09
their property that do they see
the merit in this and you know
8:13
are excited to be on the cutting
edge of a technique that in a
8:17
few years could be everywhere.
Oxitec says
8:20
it's mosquitoes are safe and the
EPA determined there is no risk
8:23
to people, animals or the
environment
8:25
for non toxic or non allergenic.
We have a strong track record of
8:29
proving these to be effective in
Brazil. And we saw some great
8:32
results in the field in Florida
last year as well.
8:36
The Genetically Engineered
Mosquitoes disappear in the wild
8:39
within months
8:40
as far as making a super
mosquito or crossbreeding
8:44
mosquitoes don't do that. And
it's basically the chance of
8:48
that happening is eliminated
when it's just a male that is
8:53
being released.
8:55
Adam Curry: So this story has
been around for years and years
9:00
and years. No one's gotten
malaria. But now we're all
9:03
jacked up. And it's Bill Gates,
Bill Gates has tried to kill us
9:07
to try to get the mosquito and
he's doing it since 2009. This
9:11
is Bill Gates 2009. At a TED
conference, you might remember
9:15
this one for example,
9:16
Unknown: there's more money put
into baldness drugs that are put
9:22
into malaria. Now baldness is
it's terrible thing. And Rich
9:29
men are afflicted. And so that's
why that priority has been sets.
9:38
But malaria the event the
million deaths a year caused by
9:41
malaria greatly understate its
impact. Over 200 million people
9:45
at any one time are suffering
from it means that you can't get
9:50
the economies in these areas
going because there's just it
9:53
holds things back so much. Now
malaria is course transmitted by
9:59
mosquitoes I brought some here.
So you could experience this
10:04
well let let those roam around
the auditorium a little bit.
10:10
There is no reason only poor
people should have have the
10:14
experience.
10:20
Adam Curry: You remember that
when he actually released all
10:22
those mosquitoes into the TED
conference,
10:24
John C Dvorak: we discussed the
fact that this was
10:26
Adam Curry: illegal. Of course,
it's also I mean, well, it's
10:30
been released
10:30
John C Dvorak: disease vectors
like that in the public, for the
10:33
purposes of for whatever
purposes, personal merch,
10:37
besides beside the point, and he
should have been arrested for
10:40
it.
10:41
Adam Curry: But people didn't
die from malaria or catch
10:44
malaria. And there's been report
after report throughout the
10:49
years of these bio Engineered
Mosquitoes, as far as I'm
10:53
concerned, they don't work at
all. Now, but everyone's all
10:58
jacked up. Oh, this is Gates's
mosquitoes know how here's
11:02
something I think it might be at
the beginning of the year bio in
11:06
tech, who doesn't know them, the
mRNA dudes who provide the mRNA,
11:14
for Pfizer, amongst other
vaccines, they started a human
11:17
trial to test the malaria
vaccine. Now, this, I think,
11:22
could be a problem. Because I'm
starting to learn that this you
11:27
know, we kind of, we've looked a
little bit at gain of function,
11:29
and we've been, you've been,
we've been hit over the head
11:32
with it to just be beaten like a
salmon to the head with a gain
11:36
of function in the Wuhan lab.
For this gain of function, ie,
11:40
you know, jacking up stuff in
order to test it. For vaccines.
11:45
This actually might be something
that is going to call has been
11:49
causing and will cause a lot of
problems. And I've been
11:52
following a lot of RFK Jr stuff.
And he had the literal disinfo
11:58
doesn't on a zoom call, you
know, Mercola PR Corey, I mean
12:02
all the toppers, all the people
we actually respect and he
12:07
John C Dvorak: saw the winners,
12:09
Adam Curry: the winners, and he
said this, I will
12:11
Unknown: end all in a function
research, I will, I will sign a
12:16
treaty on the end, again, a
function research to get all the
12:22
nations and get a function
research. It's just a disaster.
12:27
It's been given us no benefits.
It's given us, you know,
12:30
everything from Lyme disease to
COVID, and many, many other
12:35
diseases, and RSV, which is now
that one of the biggest killers
12:38
of children and came out of a
vaccine lab, you know, so and we
12:47
can go down the whole list of
diseases that you know, down to
12:51
there's good evidence that even
Spanish flu came from facts or
12:55
facts in a vaccine research.
And, you know, we don't know and
12:59
we'll probably never know, but
the you know, there are very,
13:02
very strong articles suggesting
that now you know, the medical
13:07
research on these diseases. And
vaccine research has actually
13:11
created some of the worst
plagues in our history as
13:15
anybody who reads the river will
come away pretty much convinced
13:21
that HIV also came from, you
know, a vaccine program and
13:26
there's plenty of plenty of
evidence of that as well.
13:29
Adam Curry: Bobby J for
President. This guy's like
13:32
listening to 10 years of no
agenda is phenomenal.
13:37
John C Dvorak: HIV and Ebola
supposedly came from Fort
13:40
Dietrich,
13:40
Adam Curry: sure this this
doesn't surprise me at all.
13:45
John C Dvorak: Well, I liked the
fact that he shoved RSV in that
13:48
little
13:49
Adam Curry: nice in that yeah,
which another another vaccine
13:52
just came out there
13:53
John C Dvorak: are stairs so
freaked out about this guy that
13:56
Fox is really against.
13:58
Adam Curry: Jeff there's a lot
of a lot of interesting things
14:02
going around going on. So I'm
watching
14:04
John C Dvorak: the five the I
don't have a clip, okay, but I'm
14:07
watching the five and Kaylee
McEnany No, no, no, no. Dana
14:12
Perino, the Perino girl.
14:13
Adam Curry: Yeah,
14:15
John C Dvorak: so she says Oh,
yeah, RFK JR. He's like, he's
14:19
some good things but he's just
some most of his stuff is Looney
14:24
Tunes. He says there's
14:26
Adam Curry: no
14:28
John C Dvorak: it's just really
blasted him good. They're all
14:31
members of some whatever the
cult is that they have to it's a
14:36
they do
14:37
Adam Curry: it. It's a big well
first of all, it's the big
14:38
pharma cults. They can't say
any. He's out there just
14:42
slamming Big Pharma slamming the
military industrial complex. The
14:48
he had a a town hall Town Hall
on news nation. Yeah, I
14:56
John C Dvorak: had I haven't I
had recorded I haven't seen it
14:58
yet.
14:58
Adam Curry: I have. I have one
But from it, but he's, you know,
15:01
he's he's going to be the
podcast president. So I have my
15:03
eye on him. And he's also even
on the Bill Maher podcast as
15:06
predicted. I have a clip from
that. But I mean, truly the
15:11
things he talks about it, it's
all no agenda stuff. It really
15:17
is. I mean, going back 10 years,
just all the stuff that we've
15:20
been talking about by Marisol,
and you know, the whole the
15:24
whole vaccine scam when they got
the immunity from prosecution,
15:29
you know, you don't have to have
placebo trials. I mean, the
15:31
whole Big Pharma is just, he's
just ripping it apart. Well,
15:36
John C Dvorak: we also have to
remember you digging up the very
15:39
early on this is like 12 years
ago, the conference, you digging
15:42
up the report? Yeah. I'm one of
the pharma companies showing
15:45
that this was a bonanza,
bonanza. Yeah, we're gonna get
15:49
make so much money because we
have no liability, we can crank
15:52
this stuff out. All we need is
the propaganda channels, and we
15:55
can make tons of billions of
dollars. And it said, they just
16:01
laid it right out. And as long
as they have this lack of
16:04
liability, where they did who
gives a crap if it kills
16:07
everybody, because we're not
liable because of the government
16:11
that picks up the tab on this.
16:13
Adam Curry: So it's really
interesting. So that's really
16:15
the problem, by the way. Oh,
well, there's but it's
16:17
interesting to see what's
happened in a relatively short
16:22
amount of time. Let me see. 13
Well, 20 years to me relatively
16:27
short. But back when MSNBC
started when was Emma's MSNBC
16:32
when did that start? Was that
2005 Around that time? 2004
16:36
Maybe a little earlier,
16:36
John C Dvorak: I actually worked
for them.
16:39
Adam Curry: I wouldn't boast
about that.
16:41
John C Dvorak: This is before
they were MSNBC today. They
16:45
originally MSNBC was kind of a
tech Orient, right?
16:48
Adam Curry: It was Microsoft
Network. Yeah, it was NBC
16:51
Microsoft. I mean, even I worked
for the launch. My company did
16:56
the chat room for them because
Microsoft servers couldn't
16:58
handle it.
16:59
John C Dvorak: It get this thing
about chat rooms. I'm so so
17:03
Adam Curry: so regretful about
them. But back then, I think
17:06
this was 22,005 RFK Jr. Came out
with this whole thing, talking
17:15
and he was connecting autism to
the vaccine to the Mirasol. And
17:21
it was here's gotta gotta play.
This was on no agenda, social. I
17:24
love that someone dug this clip
up. This is Chuck Scarborough,
17:28
who I'm sure is calling RFK Jr.
A nut job anti Vaxxer today. In
17:35
fact, I could probably just drop
a needle in any YouTube clip and
17:38
find him saying that back then
no. Oh, wow. It's Bobby. How you
17:43
doing? The kids are dying.
What's going on?
17:46
Unknown: It's it's heart
wrenching as it gets autism and
17:48
children. Six out of every 1000
kids get it. Nobody knows
17:52
exactly why. But my next guest
says he's got part of the blame
17:56
that he that he thinks needs to
fall on government. And it has
17:59
to do with a drug called from
Mirasol. Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
18:04
attorney for the what?
18:06
Adam Curry: He called it a drug.
Oh, yeah. It's so incredible
18:11
what the difference between then
and now
18:13
Unknown: National Resources
Defense Council is author of
18:16
deadly immunity. In the current
issue of Rolling Stone. It's an
18:19
investigation of the possible
connection between the Marisol
18:22
and autism and young kids. A
Bobby, thanks a lot. And of
18:25
course, you also have a great
new book. Tell us briefly about
18:29
that.
18:29
First of all, let me say that
the deadly immunity piece on
18:34
fine aerosol is also running on
salon.com. Simultaneously the
18:37
two magazines by the
18:39
Adam Curry: way, this piece ran
on salon Rolling Stone,
18:41
etcetera. They pulled it, they
pulled it within a day from all
18:45
of those publications. You
cannot find you can't even find
18:48
it on archive.org It's so bad.
They pulled this
18:51
Unknown: same time on my new
book is St. Francis of Assisi, a
18:56
life of joy. It's a children's
book. I grew up reading books
18:59
about the saints, but I couldn't
find one that would hold my
19:02
computer age children's
attention. And so I tried to
19:06
write a book that kind of action
and you know, engaging story
19:11
that would also teach them the
values and it's done very very,
19:14
very happy back
19:15
to the draw. We want to get you
you back to talk about that. But
19:18
let's talk tonight about the
Marisol there are a lot of
19:21
people out there when I was
practicing law. In fact, I need
19:24
to say this. We actually
practicing the same law firm no
19:27
lawsuits regarding who
19:29
Adam Curry: even knew that Chuck
Scarborough and RFK Jr. In the
19:33
same law firm. This is an
incredible piece of history
19:36
Unknown: of Marisol so we can
get that off the record but
19:40
there are a lot of people, a lot
of Americans very concerned
19:43
about the impact of this drug
which is found in vaccines
19:47
causes autism. It's Mercury
19:49
Adam Curry: is not a drug. It's
mercury.
19:52
John C Dvorak: Wait, it's a
preservative that contains
19:56
mercury
19:56
Unknown: correct in vaccines,
and how it causes Autism talking
20:00
about
20:02
aerosol is a preservative that
was put in vaccines back in the
20:05
1930s. Almost immediately after
it was put in autism cases began
20:09
to appear. Autism had never been
known before it was unknown to
20:13
science. Then the vaccines were
increased in 1989, by the CDC
20:18
and by a couple of other
government agencies. Let
20:20
me stop you there. That's an
important date. And I'll tell
20:22
you why my son born in 1991, has
a slight form of autism called
20:29
Asperger's. But it seems to and
again, when I was practicing
20:32
law, and also when I was in
Congress, parents would
20:34
constantly come to me, and
they'd bring the videotape to
20:37
their children. And they were
all around the age of my son.
20:42
The generation happened in 1989.
Exactly. To generate what
20:46
happened was the vaccine
schedule was increased. We went
20:50
up from receiving about 10
vaccines in our generation, to
20:54
these kids receive 24 vaccines.
And they all have this by
20:58
Marisol on them and this
mercury. And nobody bothered to
21:01
do an analysis of what the
cumulative impact of all that
21:05
Mercury was doing to kids. As it
turns out, we are injecting our
21:08
children with 400 times the
amount of mercury that FDA or
21:12
EPA considers safe. A child on
his first day that he's born, is
21:17
injected with a hepatitis B
shot. Under EPA guidelines, he
21:21
would be have to have to be 275
pounds to safely absorb that
21:26
shot.
21:27
We're just constantly pumping
our kids with these vaccines.
21:30
And what happened what happened
was that in 1988, one in every
21:37
2500 American children had
autism. Today, one in every 166
21:42
children have autism, and plus
one in six children have other
21:46
kinds of learning disorders,
other kinds of neurological
21:49
disorders, speech delay,
language disorders, add
21:52
hyperactivity, that all seem to
be connected that are all
21:56
connected.
21:56
Adam Curry: Yeah, so that goes
on and on and on. It's like a 10
21:58
minute piece is unbelievable,
particularly for Chuck
22:01
Scarborough's own kid was
injured by these things. But oh,
22:04
no, no, Bobby, oh, he's an anti
Vaxxer he's a crazy man. He's a
22:09
lunatic Looney Tunes looney
tune. That's how powerful Big
22:13
Pharma is and what an EPS a part
of that piece that God and i By
22:16
the
22:17
John C Dvorak: way, we should
give you a borderline clip on
22:19
that even though it's
22:21
Adam Curry: it's from the troll
right now. That's for the
22:27
producer who posted it no agenda
social. That was it was he
22:31
apparently very good, fine. He
posted it on Twitter and he got
22:34
put in Twitter jail for a little
bit for posting that
22:37
John C Dvorak: for posting that
clip. That clip. Yeah, all they
22:40
did. That's just a clip that
exists in red. That's
22:42
Adam Curry: a real real clip.
Yeah, yeah. We can't put in
22:45
Twitter jail because you posted
a real clip, according to the to
22:48
our producer. Yes. And so they I
believe it. That article
22:52
contained a transcript of a
hidden recording of the Samsung
22:56
would conference where all the a
whole bunch of doctors and
23:01
pharmaceutical executives and
doctors and researchers, along
23:08
with HMOs they all got together
and they all said Yeah, crap,
23:11
this stuff is crossing the blood
brain barrier. And it's causing
23:15
autism. It's in the transcript,
you can read it. And you know,
23:18
so I was able to get that and
put that in the show notes. So
23:21
this is not like it's not an
unknown thing. But over time,
23:25
Big Pharma just took over just
advertise you to death with it.
23:29
And now we don't even really
remember i Whatever anti anti
23:33
Vaxxer anti? Jenny McCarthy?
Yeah. Jenny McCarthy nutjob they
23:39
they excoriated her so badly
that her her ex husband doesn't
23:43
even like her anymore. Because
of that. Jim Carrey? No. And at
23:47
first he was all in theory, then
he was like, oh, no, no, no.
23:52
Anyway, so RFK Jr. Does a town
hall on news nation. And I mean,
23:58
it's a co owns news nation. News
nation is I'm trying to find
24:04
already
24:04
John C Dvorak: brought this up a
few shows ago,
24:06
Adam Curry: but it's it's owned
by Tribune, I think
24:09
John C Dvorak: WG edge of former
national WGN which still does
24:14
exist as WGN. Now it's just back
to local. Yes. It's the old WGN
24:18
network that has been upgraded
since a tribune. It has been
24:22
bought and sold and bought and
sold. Now it's owned by these
24:24
guys who want to do more with
it. But all I can see is it's a
24:27
tribune. Chicago Tribune.
24:29
Adam Curry: Yeah, but it's owned
by also some rich Texas
24:32
families.
24:34
John C Dvorak: Yeah, it's a
group of people that owned a
24:36
tribute now.
24:38
Adam Curry: Well, then it must
be an interesting group for him
24:40
for them to bring him on. And he
does just have one one clip from
24:46
this from this town hall. He
does something really
24:49
interesting here as of course
the news nation news model tries
24:52
to kind of trip him up get him
into the get him into the game.
24:57
Come on, man. You know, I'm up.
You're not fighting fair. You
25:00
Got to do it the right way.
25:01
Unknown: You say that you're a
Democrat, but you're getting a
25:04
lot of support. A lot of leading
voices on the right like Steve
25:07
Bannon, Tucker Carlson, Alex
Jones, former president of
25:11
John C Dvorak: America. Yeah.
Okay, so I know you hate memes,
25:15
but there's a bunch of them. But
memes are interesting.
25:17
Adam Curry: I don't hate them. I
just hate people who do dumb
25:19
memes. A lot. Well, that's most
25:22
John C Dvorak: memes. But
there's some great, there's some
25:25
meme showing up now. And I have
one of them. I was going to put
25:28
it I didn't put in the news.
25:30
Adam Curry: You need to post
that everywhere. A lot. A lot.
25:33
John C Dvorak: So the meme shows
is got Kennedy holding a sign
25:37
saying I'm a lunatic and I'm not
a Democrat. I'm a Republican.
25:43
I'm being used by the
Republicans to take votes away
25:46
from good old Joe Biden,
25:48
Adam Curry: let's exact is
exactly what she's saying. He or
25:51
she is a giant
25:52
John C Dvorak: Okay, so that
means that this is a main
25:55
Democrat strategy. That's what
make him look like he's not
26:00
everybody. This guy. Give me a
break. This guy is such a debt.
26:04
This is a born and die Democrat.
Period, old school, old school,
26:10
old school Democrat, there's no
he would do nothing to help the
26:13
republican party ever.
26:15
Adam Curry: But they have.
They've spun this into a
26:17
strategy. Listen,
26:19
Unknown: you say that you're a
Democrat. But you're getting a
26:22
lot of support from a lot of
leading voices on the right like
26:25
Steve Bannon, Tucker Carlson,
Alex Jones, former President
26:29
Donald Trump. Many Democrats
fear that you're a spoiler in
26:33
the race that you will damage
President Biden in the primary
26:36
and grease the skids for former
President Trump to grease the
26:39
skids who returned to the oval
office this week, former
26:42
President Trump said about you.
Kennedy is smart. And he's a
26:46
common sense guy. What kind of
man do you think? Oh, no,
26:51
Adam Curry: yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh,
yeah. This is she's you see what
26:53
she's trying to do here. Like,
come on, come on.
26:56
John C Dvorak: This is the
whatever Trump says the
26:58
opposite, you know, is the
opposite. Of course. So So say,
27:01
if Trump says something
complimentary about you, it's
27:04
gotta be bad. You're a bad guy.
27:07
Unknown: Common Sense guy. What
kind of man do you think Donald
27:11
Trump is?
27:12
So you know, here's what I'm not
going to do in this race. I'm
27:17
not going to attack other
people. Personally, I don't
27:20
think it's good for our country.
And I think you know, what I'm
27:23
trying to do in this race is
bringing people together, just
27:26
to try to bridge the divide
between Americans. And guess
27:29
what? The one eyed dad died. And
we took this train ride from
27:35
this seven and a half hour train
ride that was supposed to be two
27:38
hours on Fridays, but I was with
him when he died in Los Angeles,
27:41
and then we brought his bike. I
didn't
27:42
Adam Curry: actually know that I
didn't know that he was there
27:44
when he was shot. At the hotel.
Did you know that? No, I did not
27:49
know. That's kind of traumatic.
And by the way, notice how the
27:52
news model set him up with Alex
Jones. Tucker Carlson. Oh, no.
27:58
John C Dvorak: No, I see. I
haven't like I said, I recorded
28:00
this, but I haven't looked at it
yet. I had no idea that this was
28:03
designed to be a takedown
totally. And he just he portrays
28:08
it like an expert. So he would
fight or he's from a political
28:12
family. Yeah, that is so
political. It's not even funny.
28:16
You got to get up early. She's
an amateur. Yeah, trying to
28:19
think she's gonna get some kudos
for this. This is, by the way,
28:23
if i I wish I'd heard it now.
Because this is I consider that
28:27
this is an affront. I thought
they're gonna do a real town
28:30
hall. And that's, no, I'm sort
of a hit job on the guy. Now.
28:35
Adam Curry: This is why he's
doing podcasts. And it's a
28:37
mistake for him to even do that.
But he was ready. He knew it was
28:41
a mistake. He knew what they
were going to do. And he's
28:43
ready. And he has great stories
28:47
Unknown: from New York, Penn
Station to Union Station and
28:51
Washington DC. And they were it
was a two and a half hour ride.
28:55
But it took seven and a half
hours because there were two and
28:57
a half million people on that
train track in and it was a
29:01
cross section American all of
the major urban stations in
29:04
Trenton, Newark, Wilmington and
Baltimore. They were black
29:08
Americans same Battle Hymn of
the Republic and they were
29:10
Whites on the in the rural
areas. Were holding up signs
29:15
goodbye. Bobby prefers Bobby
American flags standing saluting
29:19
four years later, and they have
supported my father in the
29:22
primaries in 1968. Four years
later, in 1972, they were not
29:28
supporting my father and they
were not supported. They were
29:30
not supporting George McGovern,
who was aligned with my father
29:33
and all these issues. Instead,
the vast majority of them were
29:37
supporting George Wallace. And,
you know, my father was able to
29:43
harness these populists,
energies in the last day of his
29:48
life, he won the most rural
state in this country, South
29:51
Dakota and most urban. He was
able to bridge the divide among
29:55
people who would otherwise be
Republican, but wanted somebody
29:59
who was Common Sense was able to
appeal to their idealism, who
30:03
was able to find the hero in
each of them, who was able to
30:06
get them to transcend narrow
self interest, and see
30:10
themselves as part of the
community and part of this, you
30:12
know, incredible American
adventure in modeling self
30:17
governance for the rest of the
world. So I'm proud that
30:21
President Trump likes me, even
though I don't agree with most
30:25
of these issues. Because I don't
want to alienate people. I want
30:29
to bring people together. I'm
proud that all these people like
30:33
me, and that I have independent
supporters and Democratic
30:36
supporters, and I'm able to
bring a lot of people, every
30:40
Democrat says, I want to end the
polarization. But how do you do
30:45
that without talking to people
who don't agree with you? How do
30:48
you do that without appealing to
people without the burden? My
30:52
purpose is to find the issues of
values that we have in common,
30:57
rather than, you know, focus on
the issues and the personalities
31:01
that keep us all apart?
31:02
Adam Curry: So he walked all
over the news model, the
31:06
inexperienced news model, and
did a great job. I mean, it no
31:10
matter what, what she tried, he
just had something he was, man,
31:14
the voice. I think it's actually
a superpower. Because it's so
31:18
hard to listen to, you have to
listen to
31:20
John C Dvorak: it. Yeah. Well,
there is this element of the
31:22
people talking low and doing all
these different tricks to make
31:26
you just strain to listen to
them. Yeah. And that is I
31:30
wouldn't call it a superpower.
But it's an advantage in some
31:33
funny way. I think overall, it's
a disadvantage because he would
31:36
love to be an orator. Yeah,
31:38
Adam Curry: he was he wasn't
order. He used to do a lot of
31:40
speeches back in the day. And
31:42
John C Dvorak: you know, now he
has to, you know, scrunch
31:45
through his his discussions in a
way that's painful to listen to.
31:50
But I, I'm shocked. I thought
they were going to do a
31:54
legitimate No, no, no townhall
not some sort of a hit job. Now
32:00
compare that ants, very
disappointed news. What was it
32:03
is new News Daily News Nine News
nation. That's the Kuumba group,
32:07
Chris cromoz.
32:07
Adam Curry: was on. So compare
how he wheels off that attack to
32:15
President Trump. Who gets I
mean, he shouldn't he? I guess
32:20
this is his standard. He was
ready for this question from
32:23
Brett bear. But man, this is a
question that a lot of real
32:28
Trumpers all around hill
country, this is the one thing
32:31
they have a problem with, is
about the COVID vaccines, Bret
32:36
bear. Skips really gives him a
softball. And this is how we
32:42
answered it. The COVID
32:43
Unknown: vaccine work?
32:46
It's such an interesting
question, because not only that,
32:49
I also did the Regeneron 's of
the world, you know, the whole
32:52
Well, we did a tremendous job on
that. But we had a wet vaccine.
32:57
Now you have different you have
different COVID and COVID-19.
33:00
And then you have different
robots, but we had an original
33:02
was COVID-19, which was the
roughest one. So I have a
33:06
Democrat friend who's very
smart. Hopefully he votes from
33:09
me, but he's very smart. I don't
understand one thing about you,
33:13
I watched your rallies, they're
incredible. You talked about
33:16
beating ISIS, you talk about
taxes, you talk about
33:19
regulation, you talk about
everything. But you never saw a
33:22
said that I've never heard you
talk about how with the
33:25
incredible job you did with the
vaccines because as you know, I
33:28
got them done in nine months.
And it was supposed to take
33:30
anywhere from five to 12 years,
I broke their s okay. And you
33:35
know, who doesn't like me too
much the FDA, because they were
33:38
very bureaucratic, and I got it
done. And he said, you may have
33:43
saved in the world throughout
the world. 100 million people
33:46
and you never talk about it. I
said, I really don't want to
33:50
talk about it. Because as a
Republican, it's not a great
33:53
thing to talk about. Because for
some reason, it's just not some
33:56
reason. Yeah, for some reason,
because people love the
33:59
vaccines, and people hate the
vaccines.
34:02
Adam Curry: No, no, no. That's
not the answer. People are
34:07
looking for them. In fact, if he
just said, You know what, I got
34:10
hoodwinked. Don't, oh, he's
never gonna do that. Say the FDA
34:14
hates him. The FDA loves him for
that. That was a multi billion
34:18
dollar. Yeah. Now look for just
for a moment just to contrast
34:24
all of that. Ron DeSantis. Who
was I guess he's doing some
34:29
stump speeches. He he's in an
auditorium. The mic opens up.
34:34
Here's what the first comment
is.
34:36
Unknown: Just came here to let
you know that you'll never be
34:39
our president. You're just
another establishment little
34:42
bitch.
34:43
Thank you. Well, okay, let's not
let's just some people are
34:48
actually here to see me. You
know, some people actually like
34:51
me, for instance, show of hands
everybody. How many of you are
34:54
actually going to vote for me?
One guy, okay. I guess they This
35:00
is just really awkward.
35:04
Adam Curry: This may be a deep
fake, but it doesn't matter I
35:07
just love someone calling him a
little bitch. Then we have so
35:14
funny, Garth K Jr. Goes on Bill
Maher and Bill Maher, I would
35:19
say is also an old school
Democrat. And they agree. They
35:23
agree on almost every liberal
liberal Yes. And they agree on a
35:29
lot of things. Mark very
annoying. Oh goodness. He gives
35:34
that guy two hours and he's more
annoying than the sheet
35:37
interrupts continuously. And
he's, you know, I have nothing
35:41
against people smoking weed, but
he loses his train of thought
35:43
all the time. Like, I forgot
what I was talking about. But
35:47
but here's just a small and this
is a snide way of saying, I know
35:52
how the deep state works, and
I'll screw the deep state as the
35:58
topic comes up of J. Edgar
Hoover, of course, ran the FBI
36:04
during Johnson and before, and
you know, the J Edgar Hoover,
36:09
not a good guy. We know he was a
blackmailer, we know he's done
36:12
all kinds of you know, sex,
blackmail, anything he could do.
36:16
Just any original transsexual
you and black as well. Did you
36:21
know he was black? What J Edgar
Hoover was black.
36:27
John C Dvorak: Yep, it was I did
not know. Is there any evidence
36:29
of this?
36:30
Adam Curry: Mo has presented
this evidence quite
36:32
convincingly. He was a passing
black man. We only see him in
36:38
black and white photos. But yes,
this and I think Moe is correct.
36:41
So I'll take Moe's word for it.
Anyway. So here he is with a
36:45
little story about his dad when
he was attorney general. And the
36:49
director of FBI who of course
works for the attorney general,
36:51
in theory, when Johnson took
over, did he keep your father on
36:56
as attorney
36:57
Unknown: general? Yeah, my
father stayed for well and
37:00
resigned. He stayed till he was
gonna run for Senate. So he
37:05
stayed on but he didn't really
go to work. And also, you know,
37:10
half of his employees at the
Justice Department were FBI
37:13
agents who work for Hoover. And
he had a buzzer on his desk for
37:20
Hoover, which nobody ever
taught. And he actually treated
37:23
Hoover as J. Edgar Hoover, his
employee. And no other attorney
37:28
general that ever cared to do
that. And I went up there, me
37:31
and my brothers would go up
there and push the button,
37:34
whoever would have to come up
and he would be very, very
37:36
pissed off. I was in
37:40
Uber and I was in a smart thing
to do.
37:43
No, one time, you
37:45
know, to to humiliate who wasn't
him. He was kidding me. He was
37:49
trying to bring him under
control, because he was you
37:53
know, he was a hit become a
power. And he was my father was
37:59
you need to report to the
Attorney General. I'm your you
38:01
know, your putative boss, and I
am your actual boss. So the
38:06
second thing, as soon as Jack
was killed was J. Edgar Hoover,
38:10
who called my father and told
him that his brother had been
38:16
shot and, you know, an hour
later he called him and told him
38:19
his brother was dead. And my
father was told a friend of his,
38:25
he said the way the tone that he
used when he told me that was
38:30
the same tone that he would use
kind of a matter of fact tone
38:34
that he would use if he had
discovered a communist on the
38:38
faculty of Emory University,
that he would call him. So it
38:42
was like, it was a message that
he never spoke to my father
38:47
again.
38:49
Adam Curry: I Kennedy is
dangerous to these people. He's
38:52
very, very dangerous. Oh, yeah.
38:55
John C Dvorak: He's a lot more
dangerous than Trump will ever
38:57
be. Yes,
38:57
Adam Curry: sir. Yes, sir. I
love listening to his stories. I
39:01
can listen to him. He's got a
million stories is really quite
39:05
compelling. Finally, something
different and that's why Dana
39:09
Perino. You know, Miss Fox over
there. So you owe Looney to
39:14
John C Dvorak: Looney Tunes
Looney
39:15
Adam Curry: Tunes Looney Tunes.
But if you look at the field
39:19
that Paul Ryan never Trumper who
was now on the board of Fox,
39:26
funny how that works, isn't it?
And, and you know, my dad funny?
39:32
Well, no, but my My theory here
is, you know, Rupert Murdoch is
39:36
his whole job is to bring in
Ronnie Ronnie D Rhonda, Rhonda.
39:40
DeSantis. Ron DeSantis. He can't
even he doesn't want Trump. He
39:47
can't even bring himself to the
US. Ron DeSantis is named that's
39:52
how bad it is. Right now. Listen
to this. This is on CNBC.
39:56
Unknown: I'm for anybody not
named Trump right now. Anybody
39:59
not named Trump. Anybody not
named RFK? Anybody not named can
40:02
Republican nominee for any
Republican not named from
40:05
because I think we beat Biden,
for sure. If we nominate a
40:09
Republican nominee,
40:10
any idea who you think could get
everybody down by 40 points,
40:14
we're gonna find Donald Trump
and Joe Biden have a symbiotic
40:17
relationship with each other.
They make the best case for each
40:20
other's indices in it's a total
disaster for a country in a
40:23
country of 350 million people
you think somebody else do
40:26
you think you went? If you
nominate somebody not named? I
40:28
do because you make everybody
who was supporting Trump very,
40:31
yeah. So like, I'm never again,
Trump or so obviously, that the
40:34
33% Trump face doesn't like a
person like me, because I'm very
40:37
clear. I don't think he's fit
when I don't think he can when
40:40
English is right. He could and
that's dangerous. I mean, get
40:43
you think you could even
populate a cabinet. I could get
40:45
to the Senate. I mean, I think
could be a total disaster. But I
40:48
believe strongly if we nominated
Republican nominee Donald Trump,
40:51
we win this White House.
40:53
Adam Curry: All we can say is
not named Trump, who do you want
40:55
someone not named Trump? How
about know someone not named
40:58
Trump? Anyone not named Trump?
How about saying Ron DeSantis
41:02
the guy you're supposed to get
in there? This is very bizarre.
41:09
I've never witnessed that. What
41:11
John C Dvorak: was that? Well,
you played?
41:12
Adam Curry: That's Paul Ryan.
41:15
John C Dvorak: That's Paul Ryan
saying not named Trump.
41:17
Adam Curry: Anybody not named
Trump? Who do you want him to
41:20
anybody not named Trump. You
know, if we had someone in there
41:23
not named Trump. What? This this
is this screwed up? Well,
41:30
something's wrong with the whole
system. And then and then the
41:36
Department of Justice, I guess
releases some audio tape, which
41:40
of course was given to them by
the by the people who
41:43
interviewed Trump for this
article or book or whatever. And
41:47
it becomes Anderson Cooper. Oh,
well, he's he's, he's confessing
41:52
himself out of his own mouth
that he that he P took documents
41:56
about the Iran invasion blah,
blah, blah, blah, blah, blah,
41:59
blah. So even pixie girl over on
the CIA broadcasting systems has
42:05
to bring the story. But in it,
she says it's not even a part of
42:09
the case. So it's, it's bullcrap
is just, it's just filling
42:15
airtime.
42:17
Unknown: Today, the former
president defined on the
42:19
campaign trail,
42:20
we did nothing wrong. This is a
whole hoax,
42:22
after CBS News and other media
outlets obtained an audio
42:26
recording where the former
president two years ago
42:29
allegedly shared with a group at
his New Jersey Golf Club, a
42:32
sensitive Defense Department
plan of attack on Iran,
42:35
highly secretive.
42:41
The recent criminal indictment
of the former president for the
42:45
willful retention of National
Defense Information includes a
42:48
transcript of the conversation
allegedly between Trump a book
42:51
writer, a publisher and two
staffers. The indictment says
42:54
none has security clearances,
ask the former senior Justice
42:57
Department official Tom Dupree,
is it reasonable to believe the
43:01
special counsel has interviewed
those individuals?
43:05
I think there's a very, very
good chance that he has they
43:08
were witnesses to the alleged
criminal activity they can help
43:12
fill in some of the gaps. What
documents did the President
43:15
show,
43:16
the audio recording appears to
contradict Trump's explanation
43:19
that there was no classified
Iran document.
43:22
We had a lot of papers, a lot of
papers stacked up. In fact, you
43:26
could hear the rustle of the
paper and nobody said I did
43:29
anything. Well.
43:30
Trump has consistently said he
declassified all the records he
43:33
took from the White House, but
in the recording
43:36
president. I think that the
special counsel will be able to
43:42
use this recording very
effectively before a jury
43:45
because he can argue that
they've captured on tape, the
43:49
defendant narrating his own
alleged criminal activity.
43:53
And CBS News has learned that
Trump has not been charged for
43:56
keeping the document he's
talking about on that tape.
43:59
Special Counsel Jack Smith's
office declined to answer our
44:02
questions about the Iran memo or
the audio tape. Trump has
44:05
pleaded not guilty to all
charges nor
44:08
Adam Curry: so they do a minute
and a half about this cape mo
44:11
this document and then well but
he's not being charged with it.
44:14
Put
44:16
John C Dvorak: this Yeah,
they're going out of their way
44:18
not to charge anything to do a
debt document.
44:22
Adam Curry: Because evidence
because it's real, you know,
44:24
it's it's gotta be real courses
44:26
John C Dvorak: real it was
written by Miley Yes. At the at
44:30
the request of I don't know who
and or himself. You know, he was
44:34
kind of a freelancer still
working there. I don't know why.
44:38
And
44:41
Adam Curry: it's interesting.
44:42
John C Dvorak: I remember during
our show, it was discussed that
44:45
this attack on Iran was
discussed.
44:48
Adam Curry: Yeah, but then they
had an actual document Trump and
44:50
you'd listen to the tape because
he he's showing you then the
44:52
document. He's no doubt about
it. But it's not probably Oh,
44:57
no, no, no. Yeah, no discovery,
please. We can't actually have
45:00
that come out that will be
rather embarrassing. Especially
45:03
because it was Miley who
wouldn't use the military
45:05
industrial complex who was
setting it up West Clark seventh
45:08
baby. Now I have one more clip
here. We have to I'm not sure
45:14
how to deconstruct this. This
was Harry Smith. Was he NBC?
45:18
He's hairy. shmancy, CBS, CBS
CBS. Listen to this bit.
45:23
John C Dvorak: We thought he was
long retired. Maybe he turns
45:27
Harry Smith.
45:29
Adam Curry: Well, that's what
the clip. Yeah, it's Harry
45:31
Smith, the bald guy. Maybe this
is a special anymore by his
45:36
voice. Yes. This is a this is
like a special report. And it's
45:39
about the heritage of members of
Congress. And it's very odd. I'm
45:44
not sure how to read this.
45:45
John C Dvorak: Oh, yeah, this
came i Yeah. This is peculiar. I
45:49
know what you get to play in his
life when I didn't have any. I
45:54
didn't have any. I didn't want
to slip into the shirt because I
45:57
You're right. It's kind of
baffling. We're in
46:00
Unknown: Portsmouth, Virginia,
with black history scholar
46:03
Cassandra Newby, Alexakis
harrismith, Republic documents
46:06
and family records. A Reuters
examination discovered at least
46:10
100 members of the last sitting
Congress had direct family
46:14
ancestors, who were
slaveholders. More than a
46:17
quarter of Republicans 8%
Democrats. So to every living
46:23
American president, except
Donald Trump, when you learn
46:27
that, that it surprise you.
46:29
Not at all. Power is something
that's often inherited, and so
46:34
is privilege. And those who
owned enslaved people were
46:39
privileged people,
46:40
would we be better off as a
people as an American people?
46:46
If we better recognized the
truth of our past?
46:50
Absolutely. Unequivocally. We
have to keep teaching it and
46:54
putting it in front of the
American people.
46:57
Adam Curry: I mean, so every
single one of the American
47:00
presidents had slitting living
had slave owners in their past
47:05
except
47:05
John C Dvorak: how many living
American presidents do we have?
47:08
Well, three for starters.
47:11
Adam Curry: But you understand,
so that's why I didn't
47:12
understand I didn't understand
this or this. What's the point
47:15
of this? What are they trying to
say? Slave owners good.
47:19
John C Dvorak: Actually, Harry
Smith been moved over to NBC.
47:23
Adam Curry: I was right. I
thought it was just a very odd
47:26
thing to do.
47:27
John C Dvorak: I thought it was
very odd and what was the point
47:29
of it? Yeah,
47:30
Adam Curry: I don't understand.
Do not understand
47:33
John C Dvorak: to make a Trump
look like he's the only ones not
47:36
so watch where the these are.
This is generational after we
47:40
you know this. Who cares? Yeah.
47:44
Adam Curry: So the media doesn't
know what to do that you know,
47:48
they all want the advertising
dollars they all have their
47:54
marching orders. We know what
Fox is marching orders are I'm
47:58
not even sure the MSNBC is and
the CNN of the world. I'm not
48:03
even sure they know what to do.
I mean, it's clear that Biden I
48:07
mean, there's so much coming
out. They know they can't stop
48:11
the flood.
48:12
John C Dvorak: I have some clips
of Biden but I'm kind of mixed
48:18
have mixed feelings about your
theory about Biden in mine. My
48:23
theory was my your theory is
they're out to get him and you
48:28
started that you said I started
it but I backed off on it and
48:32
said that they're out to get
Kamala in. Yes, this is my right
48:37
this is the latest way I see
okay. But your theory because I
48:43
was noticing on CBS in
particular, they're really going
48:48
they're bringing up all the bad
stuff about Biden, dia, CBS, the
48:54
other everyone else seems to be
flailing around it's hard to I
48:58
can't get a good handle on are
they going to try to get Biden
49:02
to resign? Well, here's an exam
I got some clip listen to this.
49:07
The Garrett who Oh, there's Gary
ship shapely that guy. Yeah, the
49:12
IRS guy. Yeah. He was on CBS
blasting away at the at the
49:18
Biden the whistleblower stuff
that whistleblower against
49:22
Hunter and then he went on.
Brett bearish show with pretty
49:28
much the same things he said on
CBS. But those are the two
49:31
outlets that gave him this
freedom to complain. I have
49:35
three clips from him. Okay. And
his complaints are kind of like
49:40
okay, this Gary shapely intro
play this
49:43
Unknown: is their criminal
implications in what you were
49:47
investigating when it comes to
Hunter Biden.
49:51
Oh, absolutely. And, you know,
the most substantive felony
49:56
charges were left off the table,
which would have been what,
49:59
which would have been a evasion
for 14, false return for 18 and
50:03
2019. So as of right now and the
information that's been out
50:08
there in the public, that uses
the term in excess of $100,000
50:12
for 2017. separately for 2018.
The true number is $580,000. of
50:19
failure to pay for 2017 is
620,000. For 2018, got this
50:24
document, puts it close to
100,000.
50:28
John C Dvorak: Something I've
been complaining about
50:30
Adam Curry: complained about
that. Yes, you don't like those
50:33
numbers.
50:35
John C Dvorak: In here is is
just one I missed. I misspelled
50:38
Shipley's, Gary shipped him
blocks, blocks, I'm
50:41
Adam Curry: sorry, I had number
two set on second blocks.
50:44
Unknown: But as we moved closer
to the election, it just seemed
50:48
like they kept putting on the
backburner and eventually didn't
50:51
allow us to do that search
warrant, even though the legal
50:53
requirements to execute that
search warrant were met.
50:57
Transitioning into another
search warrant was on a storage
51:02
unit in Northern Virginia. And
during the day of action on
51:05
December 8 of 2020, we got
updated information that said
51:09
that records were in that
location that were you know,
51:13
that would be evidence in this
particular investigation. And
51:18
the prosecutors initially were
supportive of it and an
51:22
affidavit was drafted the night
of December 8 2020. To go
51:25
forward for approval. Oh,
eventually, the prosecutors
51:29
decided they didn't support it.
So I called US Attorney David
51:34
Weiss, with my senior executive
on the phone. And we said we
51:38
need to execute this search
warrant. They he responded that
51:41
the prosecutors didn't want to
and I asked if in 30 days if
51:45
that storage unit wasn't
accessed, and that was the
51:47
deadline for the document
requests that was served on that
51:50
day, then we can execute the
search warrant. And he agreed to
51:54
that. And no sooner I had gotten
off the phone with David Weiss
51:58
had we learned that the
prosecutors were informing
52:01
defense counsel of that storage
unit and the evidence that
52:04
existed there. So it completely
ruin our chance to to access
52:09
those unfettered.
52:10
Adam Curry: This guy's boring he
doesn't he doesn't do it. He
52:12
doesn't he needs some excitement
in what he's talking about. We
52:15
don't feel
52:16
John C Dvorak: good to straight.
52:18
Adam Curry: I need some
excitement from him is an
52:21
John C Dvorak: IRS lifer.
52:25
Adam Curry: With a badge on his
belt. I love that. Uh, yeah. IRS
52:28
badge, I get it back and look at
my keys. Man. I
52:31
John C Dvorak: gotta be you're
expecting him to be like,
52:33
Adam Curry: I'm just saying it's
it's boring. He's a boring is
52:36
very bad.
52:37
John C Dvorak: Ya know, but
it's, ya know, ya know? So,
52:40
yeah, it's a problem, but this
is what you get for a real
52:44
whistleblower. Yeah. And here he
is. I mean, I could clip this
52:50
guy forever. But it's all of
it's like a little doll. But he
52:53
has this material is like, wow,
what do you this? Right. After
52:59
this clip? Yes, this is the car
shapely to try that.
53:03
Adam Curry: Alright, gar. This
is a moment in which you wonder
53:06
why the search engine doesn't
work. Well, Delaware, US
53:09
Unknown: Attorney? David, why
Hold
53:10
John C Dvorak: on a second. Yes.
You've told me over the years
53:14
that you fix these.
53:16
Adam Curry: I don't fix them at
all. I never said no, no, I
53:20
John C Dvorak: here's a list.
I'll give you my process. I just
53:25
grew up, grind these things out.
And then I say to myself, I'm
53:28
going back. And I'm going to
spellcheck the list before I
53:34
send it off to Adam. And then
for some unknown reason, I think
53:38
I've been hypnotized. Is that
working out?
53:40
Adam Curry: It's okay to go do
it. Luckily, we have aI now. So
53:44
we don't have to worry AI will
be able to find these things.
53:47
Because it's
53:47
John C Dvorak: large garsh a
guard shapely, no problem. This
53:50
is
53:50
Unknown: a moment in which your
Delaware US Attorney David
53:53
Weiss, according to you had made
this disclosure on October
53:57
7 2022 meeting with top IRS and
FBI officials saying what? So
54:03
I was there and I witnessed this
personally. And he started with
54:08
he's not deciding personnel
whether or not charges are filed
54:10
or not,
54:11
not the deciding personnel on
whether charges are filed with
54:14
Hunter Biden. That's correct.
Who was
54:17
So ultimately this if you follow
the path of where the venue
54:22
leads, you then went to the DC
US Attorney's Office in March of
54:26
2022. And they presented this
case to them. It's the same time
54:31
with that same time as that was
occurring. They requested
54:34
discovery from the agents, which
is a typical step when they're
54:37
getting ready to charge. Now, I
wasn't in those meetings. I
54:40
asked to be in those meetings as
did the case agent, so we didn't
54:43
help present to them. But after
that occurred, he was no longer
54:48
looking to charge in that in
that district.
54:52
So that's earth shattering news.
It's a Biden appointed DC US
54:57
attorney Matthew graves would
not Allow him to charge in his
55:01
district.
55:02
So I didn't learn that fact
until October 7 of 2022. So
55:07
looking back to March of 2022,
and that's when David Weiss in
55:11
October 7 2022 said that the DC
US Attorney's Office will not
55:16
allow us to charge there. And
then he added that he would
55:18
request special account, he
requested Special Counsel
55:21
authority, and was denied in
that meeting. I even had him
55:25
repeat that, because I knew how
important that fact was. And I
55:29
wanted to make sure I understood
it.
55:30
You were there. And you remember
it. Crystal clear in your mind.
55:34
Not only
55:35
do I remember crystal clear, but
I documented the email this an
55:40
exhibit in the House Ways and
Means Committee testimony was
55:43
when I returned home that
evening, I documented it in an
55:47
email, and it's an exhibit, you
can look right on there. And I
55:51
sent that email to two senior
executives, one of which was at
55:55
that meeting. And I said, Is
this accurate reflection of what
56:00
occurred during the meeting? And
the response was you covered it
56:03
all?
56:04
Adam Curry: No, I What did that
mean? Because I was snoring.
56:08
John C Dvorak: What it means is
that there was something out of
56:11
the blue there, everything was
ready to go.
56:13
Adam Curry: Yeah. And then all
of a sudden, someone pulled the
56:15
cord. Some,
56:17
John C Dvorak: let's say a spook
walked in and said, hey, guys
56:21
working for us. This has been my
thesis all along. And you can't
56:27
do this. So stop. I think they
put a stop to it. Now. To add to
56:34
a little more dimensionality to
this, your thesis that they're
56:37
going to have to get rid of
56:38
Adam Curry: Hunter first. They
got to conquer somehow. Overdose
56:42
easy. Well, suicide, suicide
overdose or overdose would get
56:48
ingested into a jet engine. That
seems to be the new suicide way
56:52
these days. Well, hold on, let's
just
56:56
John C Dvorak: do much work.
Let's
56:57
Adam Curry: have a private
version. Gotta
56:58
John C Dvorak: find it. We got
to get on the tarmac.
57:01
Adam Curry: No private jet. He
was going on the private jet,
57:04
his buddy's private jet sucked
into the into the engine it
57:07
could happen. I think they're
setting up President Biden for
57:12
the death. And it's this story
in particular that made me think
57:16
that
57:16
Unknown: the White House says
President Biden has recently
57:18
started using a CPAP machine
which helps people with sleep
57:22
apnea condition affects 30
million Americans according to
57:26
the American Medical
Association, and PRs Deepa Shiva
57:29
ROM has more
57:31
than the White House disclosed
that Biden was using a CPAP
57:33
machine after reporters noticed
he appeared to have marks on his
57:37
face from straps used to hold an
air pressure mask in place. CPAP
57:42
stands for continuous positive
airway pressure. Biden's past
57:46
medical reports as recently as
2019 and mentioned sleep apnea.
57:50
But his medical reports while
President have not, Biden's
57:54
health is being closely
scrutinized by voters as well as
57:57
by his political opponents
because at 80. He is the oldest
58:00
president in US history. Polls
show some voters are concerned
58:04
that he is too old to
effectively carry out a second
58:06
term in office depot Shivram.
NPR news.
58:10
John C Dvorak: Now a couple
things about this. Well, the
58:12
first thing about this is it
wasn't a CPAP machine. It was a
58:16
ball gag.
58:17
Adam Curry: Yeah, that was my
punch line and you just didn't
58:19
really deliver it right.
58:24
John C Dvorak: And by the way,
that gag came from and I'm going
58:26
to call you out on this. I know
where you got that joke. No, I
58:29
Adam Curry: had the joke in my
mind already. I had it sent in
58:31
from the minute I got the clip.
58:34
John C Dvorak: Joke came from a
meme on no agenda social.
58:39
Adam Curry: See? Here's here's
what I want to say about it. I
58:44
have friends who have CPAP
machines. I've never seen them
58:46
with a with a strap Mark indent
on their face in the morning.
58:50
They've stayed at my house just
as recently as last week. No,
58:54
that's bullcrap. Something else
going on. They must have been
58:59
emergency oxygen or something
he's gonna die. It's the only
59:05
solution. They the only way to
get rid of it is to get rid of
59:09
all the evidence and the
evidence is Hunter and Joe. I
59:14
bought this. I mean I hate to be
ghoulish about it. But
59:17
John C Dvorak: he is very good.
I'm sticking with the Democrats
59:20
on this. They've been Biden has
been doing this for 50 years. He
59:25
knows how to do this. And he's
still I'm sticking with the to
59:32
Dante. idea where he's just
pretending to be a dummy. I have
59:36
clips here. Where he shows it
off is going to happen a hunter
59:45
just before the election. It's
going to make everybody
59:48
Adam Curry: Oh yes, the he loves
the love of mice.
59:54
John C Dvorak: The Republicans
have driven him to suicide
59:58
Adam Curry: by ingestion into Do
a jet engine
1:00:01
John C Dvorak: without the jet.
Come on. That's the best
1:00:03
Adam Curry: kind.
1:00:04
John C Dvorak: It's not going to
happen that way. There's no way
1:00:07
it's cool. So yeah, it might be,
but chopped up is
1:00:12
Adam Curry: better than the
woodchipper. It's the new mafia.
1:00:14
That's how the mob does it these
days. It's different. It's
1:00:17
different these days
1:00:18
John C Dvorak: and to get him to
sympathy, he needs to go over
1:00:21
the top and win the election and
can take a bunch of debit cards
1:00:24
with him to Republicans. Where's
1:00:25
Adam Curry: Kamala? Then?
Where's your story?
1:00:27
John C Dvorak: The war did
again.
1:00:30
Adam Curry: I'm just gonna say
it right now. Just as I did with
1:00:33
Trotsky or
1:00:33
John C Dvorak: Camela is two
months into it. After he gets
1:00:36
elected. He quits, resigns and
gives it to Kamla because he's
1:00:40
too old. Bo she gets in, she'll
be in there for three years and
1:00:43
get reelected.
1:00:44
Adam Curry: Wow. All right. I'm
just gonna say right now. I
1:00:47
think Bobby Kennedy Jr. has a
real shot. And the reason I say
1:00:52
that is not because of is in
fact not because of the news
1:00:55
nation town halls or anything
like that. He is going with the
1:00:59
people are the people are tuning
out. They don't care about the
1:01:02
mainstream. There is not
anything can still be rigged
1:01:06
with the elections. I'm not sure
how he gets past the Democratic
1:01:10
Party, apparatus rigging rigging
apparatus to become the
1:01:15
candidate. I think he has as the
podcast presidential candidate.
1:01:19
I think he has a real shot. I
really do. I think he has a real
1:01:23
shot. I know you think I'm
dreaming. You are but I think he
1:01:27
has a real shot. Well, you said
the same about Trump when I said
1:01:29
Trump could do it. And he did.
1:01:33
John C Dvorak: I that was some
time ago before the rigging got
1:01:36
got
1:01:36
Adam Curry: wavy. There's the
request the rigging just
1:01:39
started. Please, please, please
elections have been rigged for a
1:01:44
long time. Long long time.
1:01:47
John C Dvorak: Let's listen to
some Biden stuff. All right, get
1:01:49
start with this one. This was
the again i misspelling it says
1:01:52
viden Oh, but this is a good
jumble of just miscellaneous
1:01:58
nonsense.
1:01:59
Unknown: Well, guess what? Yes.
I'm a guy driving a truck hit.
1:02:05
Anyway, knock down a whole
bridge in the whole Fox four
1:02:10
lanes of the highway. Helping
them fix the reduction at the
1:02:13
face Reduction Act. The new
plants being built. Three
1:02:16
quarters of us industries grew
more kindly, consecrated,
1:02:20
obviously. consecrated. I think
I didn't go to mass
1:02:28
Adam Curry: that's a good one.
That's a good little jumble he's
1:02:30
got going on there. Wow.
1:02:32
John C Dvorak: You're President
here's the Biden clip. need the
1:02:35
money botch but if
1:02:37
Unknown: you're too if you're
too if you're a family as a two
1:02:41
wage earner each of the parents
one making 30 grand while making
1:02:45
40 or 50 Maybe that's a little
more than Well, yeah, they need
1:02:50
the money
1:02:53
Adam Curry: okay, where do you
get these from? Who's watching
1:02:56
these? This is no
1:02:57
John C Dvorak: all over the
place. This is horrible. Dr.
1:02:59
Biden on this one here is kind
of telling it like it is. This
1:03:03
is Biden on coal.
1:03:06
Unknown: You're not gonna see
anybody building a new coal
1:03:08
fired plant in America. Not just
because I did pass a law to say
1:03:11
that is too expensive. It
doesn't work anymore.
1:03:17
Adam Curry: Doesn't work. Oh.
That's just a lie. When it
1:03:21
doesn't work as your windmills
they don't work that's too
1:03:24
expensive.
1:03:26
John C Dvorak: And then there's
this one this one got a lot of
1:03:28
play. This is the least of the
Yeah, this is the least
1:03:30
interesting. This is where he
just talking to some reporters.
1:03:33
These Yeah. And he says your
rack.
1:03:36
Adam Curry: Yeah, I mean, I
didn't even clip this it was so
1:03:41
it's alright. It's alright.
Vladimir Putin been weakened by
1:03:45
recently
1:03:47
Unknown: clearly moving
1:03:48
towards losing the war at home
and he has become a bit of a fly
1:03:53
around the world. NATO Japan
it's
1:04:03
Adam Curry: this is why I didn't
clip it because the crappy
1:04:05
helicopter noise is in
automatic. It doesn't worse.
1:04:08
point you get a point off for
that minus one. I wanted to ask
1:04:13
you about the Hatch Act again.
Because something happened
1:04:17
during the summer of pride that
it started off with, you know, a
1:04:23
little hippie dippie cool little
clip on Twitter. Look at this
1:04:26
crazy Is it summer and Fred no
one watches the whole thing.
1:04:31
That Admiral that's the whole
thing. What do you mean? This is
1:04:34
Admiral Levine. Admiral Levine
did a summer of brainchild. Yes.
1:04:39
Admiral Rachel Levine. Then a
summer of the dude. Did a summer
1:04:44
of fried please.
1:04:46
John C Dvorak: No,
1:04:46
Adam Curry: it's Admiral Levine
annoyingly.
1:04:51
John C Dvorak: Psycho. No. Would
Admiral
1:04:53
Adam Curry: Levine be allowed to
have any political speech as a
1:04:58
representative of of government.
Yeah. Could Admiral Levine do
1:05:03
that? Or would that be a
violation of the house act?
1:05:06
John C Dvorak: It's not a
violation of the Hatch Act.
1:05:08
You're not doing it on company
time.
1:05:10
Adam Curry: What if she is doing
it on company time? What if it?
1:05:13
What if it's in this official
video of the summer of pride in
1:05:18
his position as Admiral Levine
1:05:22
John C Dvorak: it was a
partisan. Yes. Completely
1:05:25
partisan. Well, okay, so you're
telling me that while on the job
1:05:30
Adam Curry: in uniform,
1:05:34
John C Dvorak: on the job in
uniform, because
1:05:35
Adam Curry: the legs look super
hot Admiral, you got hairy legs,
1:05:40
John C Dvorak: we'll play the
clip,
1:05:41
Adam Curry: okay. It's, it's
okay, so I'm gonna play the
1:05:45
opening. This is Admiral Levine,
who brings in a child, the child
1:05:53
is gonna see what's the child's
name. Ryan casada, who has been
1:05:58
trained admits to being trained
as a political operative, to
1:06:04
push the trans agenda. And there
are some amazing things that the
1:06:09
admiral says In this clip, which
I believe, completely violate
1:06:13
not just the Hatch Act, but the
whole spirit of working for the
1:06:16
American people.
1:06:22
Unknown: Hello, my name is
Admiral Rachel Levine. And I
1:06:26
have the honor of being the
Assistant Secretary for Health
1:06:29
at the United States Department
of Health and Human Services.
1:06:32
Happy Pride. Happy Pride Month.
And actually, let's declare it a
1:06:36
summer of pride, happy summer of
pride. It's so important to have
1:06:41
pride as a celebration for our
LGBTQ plus community. Recognize
1:06:46
how far we have come, but also
how much work we have left to
1:06:50
do. So I am so excited to be
here with Ryan casada to talk
1:06:55
about pride about our community.
And so first let's see once you
1:07:00
tell us a little bit about your
story, Ryan and and all the
1:07:03
fantastic work that you're
doing.
1:07:05
Adam Curry: Okay, so Ryan casada
do we was a girl has had at
1:07:10
least top surgery a quite a
while ago, maybe four years ago
1:07:13
because Ryan casada has a like a
forced musical career singing
1:07:21
pride songs kind of like Blink
182 type stuff. And as you know,
1:07:26
it's with you know, with bare
chest, as the bass player is a
1:07:31
dude who's now a girl. I mean,
the whole thing is just what
1:07:34
it's a mind bender. And now Ryan
Cassatt is sitting there in a
1:07:38
suit and tie with big, big
glasses on big, big, studious
1:07:45
glasses. And it's following a
script, which I think they may
1:07:49
even be reading off the
prompter.
1:07:51
Unknown: Great. Thank you,
Admiral Levine. My name is Ryan
1:07:54
casada. I use he him pronouns.
And I like to share my pronouns
1:07:59
first before I start any
conversation. And I am a singer
1:08:04
songwriter and a transgender
activist. I play a lot of
1:08:09
protest songs to help the
transgender liberation movement.
1:08:15
Adam Curry: This is new, the
transgender liberation movement.
1:08:20
That sounds kind of woowoo
anarchistic like it transgender
1:08:25
liberation movement,
1:08:26
Unknown: and I started my
activism when I was 13 years old
1:08:29
after getting bullied pretty
severely in middle school when I
1:08:34
first came out. And from there
on, I joined the Safe Schools
1:08:39
team through the LGBT network on
Long Island, where I grew up.
1:08:44
And that is where I learned to
publicly speak and also learned
1:08:50
the education that I needed to
be able to go into schools and
1:08:55
conferences to carry the
message. So
1:08:58
Adam Curry: that's where this
child was programmed and mind
1:09:01
controlled learned the knowledge
on how to be activist Yes, yeah,
1:09:06
John C Dvorak: there are these
schools and seminars. It's
1:09:10
interesting that you mentioned
this earlier about the BLM
1:09:15
becoming the trans M trans
movement, but transgender
1:09:19
liberation movement which is is
1:09:22
Adam Curry: T LM Yes, very good.
T LM Yep.
1:09:26
John C Dvorak: From BLM. This is
galley have just changed one
1:09:28
letter boom, you can use the old
style,
1:09:30
Adam Curry: same flags, you can
just say flags and bumper
1:09:33
sticker same
1:09:34
John C Dvorak: stickers.
1:09:36
Unknown: Well, thank you so much
for being such a role model and
1:09:41
a voice for the trans community.
1:09:45
Adam Curry: This is something
that just as a side note, for
1:09:47
some reason, Admiral Levine
keeps saying community has to
1:09:51
really T has it pronounced the
community community.
1:09:54
Unknown: Well, thank you so much
for being such a role model and
1:09:59
a voice For the trans community,
we were talking before about
1:10:03
your songs and how they give a
message of hope and compassion,
1:10:07
but also protests, how do you
mix all that together?
1:10:10
Adam Curry: So I left this in
just because it's too funny. But
1:10:13
again, this is now show they're
leading up to political talking
1:10:17
points right here, by abusing
this child who has clearly been
1:10:21
abused by the political system
for many years.
1:10:24
Unknown: I think it naturally
mixes together as a trans
1:10:29
person, as a trans man, I know
that my body is politicized. My
1:10:34
identity is politicized. Right
now, especially with all of the
1:10:39
anti trans legislation and bills
that are happening,
1:10:43
Adam Curry: I'd say this is
political activism here,
1:10:45
wouldn't you say?
1:10:46
John C Dvorak: No, no, not in so
far as to hatch X, hold
1:10:50
Adam Curry: on, hold on to your
hat, your hatch,
1:10:53
Unknown: right now in our
community and our country, and
1:10:57
it just naturally flows because
the thing that I am most
1:11:01
passionate about is helping the
transgender community to
1:11:07
freedom, really, that comes
through often in my music.
1:11:12
Well, that's fantastic. You
know, we just had pride at the
1:11:15
White House and DC pride this
weekend here. And the President
1:11:20
and the First Lady spoke so
eloquently about their support
1:11:24
for the broader LGBTQ plus
community, but particularly for
1:11:27
the transgender community, trans
youth, their families, their
1:11:31
providers. And so you know, you
talked about the challenges that
1:11:35
we have in many states across
the country, for political
1:11:39
purposes. What are your thoughts
about that?
1:11:41
Adam Curry: So we're still not
at the Hatch Act? He was all
1:11:42
about political purposes. It's
all about the anti trans we'll
1:11:45
just say we're still not at the
Hatch Act. Not yet. Not yet. No,
1:11:49
no.
1:11:51
Unknown: I think right now, it
is more difficult than ever to
1:11:56
be trans because of this
legislation. And I know I hear
1:12:03
it from trans youth every single
day, multiple people, that they
1:12:08
are struggling because of the
legislation because of the
1:12:12
media, the news, and we need to
do everything we can right now,
1:12:18
so that trans youth can access
the care that they need, and
1:12:22
they deserve. I know that this
is life saving care that is on
1:12:27
the line.
1:12:28
Absolutely. So you know, let's
talk for a moment about the
1:12:32
trans health care that our
community needs and transgender
1:12:36
medicine and gender affirming
care. I mean, that term is
1:12:39
important although our opponents
have weaponized it what are your
1:12:43
opponents
1:12:43
Adam Curry: have weaponized it
is that not political speech?
1:12:46
John C Dvorak: No. Wow. You have
to say the Republicans have
1:12:51
weaponized it the red states
have weaponized the lousy
1:12:55
Republicans the mega magazine
which is by the way why John
1:12:59
Pierre got in trouble because
she said mega mega Republicans
1:13:02
so if you Where's where's the
mention of Republican
1:13:05
Adam Curry: opponents? That's
not good. That means just
1:13:08
somebody doesn't
1:13:09
John C Dvorak: like them it
doesn't mean could be a Democrat
1:13:10
could be Republican could be an
independent
1:13:12
Adam Curry: mom sorry. I fought
the whole thing was disgusting.
1:13:16
I really
1:13:17
John C Dvorak: I didn't say it
wasn't a violation of the Hatch
1:13:21
Act from what I can try thought
1:13:23
Adam Curry: it came close I
think it's so I don't even think
1:13:25
John C Dvorak: it's close
1:13:27
Adam Curry: okay all right. I
was wrong I'm just I'm
1:13:33
John C Dvorak: do have to say it
has to be very partisan. You do
1:13:37
they say vote Democrat and this
won't happen they did none of
1:13:40
that goes on in this this
discussion.
1:13:42
Adam Curry: I thought the
opponents part was enough but no
1:13:45
John C Dvorak: opponent could be
Democrat I spoke grants are all
1:13:48
in on this stuff.
1:13:50
Adam Curry: I take your legal
advice on this
1:13:52
John C Dvorak: is I'm not a
legal. I'm not an attorney. I
1:13:55
only play when on this podcast.
1:13:57
Adam Curry: That's why I take it
I take it I take it now. I think
1:14:01
ultimately, the goal of all of
this stuff is just to get hate
1:14:05
speech laws on the books. They
just really want to shut us up.
1:14:09
Everybody to shut up. There's
1:14:11
John C Dvorak: no doubt about
that. But
1:14:12
Adam Curry: then missing but
it's like they don't really care
1:14:14
about trans as long as we can
get hate speech laws on the
1:14:17
books. That's what I've seen.
1:14:20
John C Dvorak: That's that's
probably a legit I think you
1:14:23
could say that. They don't care
about trans is bullcrap. We
1:14:26
actually got a very, they care
about free speech. Yeah, yeah.
1:14:31
Adam Curry: We got a very
thoughtful dissection of the
1:14:34
Arkansas law that's you know,
that the judge overturned and
1:14:38
and and really the interesting
part of this is the law that
1:14:46
that they put into into play
that they enacted that are
1:14:48
minors cannot have medical
transitions for a medical term,
1:14:54
what is what they call it?
Gender, medical, you
1:14:57
John C Dvorak: can't have your
nuts chopped off if you're a
1:14:59
minor in Jesus. be on a whim.
1:15:02
Adam Curry: What he says is the
interesting argument is about
1:15:04
the parents rights.
1:15:09
John C Dvorak: Because yeah,
this will be talked about in
1:15:11
this switcheroo on this parents
rights thing, I think is genius.
1:15:15
Adam Curry: Yeah. And he has a
whole breakdown, which I don't
1:15:18
know if it makes sense for us to
discuss it. But what they're
1:15:22
calling standard parental rights
is this, what they're throwing
1:15:26
up is not the standard for
determining parental rights. But
1:15:29
there's a lot of validity to
them saying, Well, you could
1:15:33
have cisgendered medical care if
you want a boob job or a butt
1:15:38
lift or whatever. So you should
be able to have anything. And I
1:15:42
think, I think that the states
will lose out on this. And
1:15:45
unfortunately, they're all I
think parental rights will get
1:15:50
lost too. It's like, they
1:15:54
John C Dvorak: want people on
both sides of this and they
1:15:57
should be able to fight they
want your kids,
1:15:59
Adam Curry: they want your kids.
And it's in a structural the
1:16:03
Anheuser Busch CEO, the spook
the spook guy. Yeah, I think he
1:16:08
was put into to make this
happen. I mean, he was put into
1:16:13
Pepsi code or ruin PepsiCo. I
think it was put into Anheuser
1:16:17
Busch to ruin Anheuser Busch.
And of course, Anheuser Busch is
1:16:21
the one that given away their
beer for July 4 here free beer,
1:16:23
just drink it, please. They're
giving it away. You can have
1:16:28
free beer from from Anheuser
Busch chose CBS spook network
1:16:32
Brenda, Mom, this guy and he
needs a little brush up on the
1:16:36
training on media training on
how to answer things because
1:16:38
it's and have you seen his head?
was huge, isn't it? Well, no,
1:16:43
it's spook head. Oh, it's a
spook Head Total spook head
1:16:47
spook smile, spook haircut. Oh,
yeah, he's
1:16:49
John C Dvorak: very spooky
spook, we should point out that
1:16:52
Unknown: your former United
States Marine and you were also
1:16:54
at the Central Intelligence
Agency, the CIA director. So you
1:16:57
know a little bit about stress.
Just a tiny bit.
1:17:00
Adam Curry: How did you go from
the CIA to Anheuser Busch?
1:17:03
Unknown: You know, I thought the
1:17:08
Adam Curry: There you go. He
doesn't answer the question very
1:17:10
well,
1:17:11
John C Dvorak: from CI, a CEO of
Anheuser Busch, which they do
1:17:17
that. What's the steps? What's
the in between sticks?
1:17:21
Adam Curry: Zack, how do you how
does that how does that happen?
1:17:22
Well, his answer is not
satisfying.
1:17:25
Unknown: You know, I thought the
highest calling that anybody can
1:17:28
have is serving the country. But
for personal reasons, made the
1:17:33
decision after eight years in
service of the country,
1:17:35
Adam Curry: well, for personal
reasons. After eight years,
1:17:39
which is not a very long spook
career, personal reasons. IE,
1:17:43
they told me you're gonna now be
a spook in the field over here
1:17:47
that this is
1:17:49
Unknown: but for personal
reasons, made the decision after
1:17:52
eight years in service of the
country, to move into into
1:17:55
business
1:17:56
Adam Curry: for service of the
country to move into business.
1:17:58
So the way I read that, well,
yeah, you read it right to be a
1:18:01
spook in business. That's what I
hear,
1:18:03
Unknown: but for personal
reasons, made the decision after
1:18:06
eight years in service of the
country to move into into
1:18:09
business. I worked for PepsiCo
for a number of years, and I
1:18:12
came here 10 years ago, and I've
been in this position for two
1:18:14
years. He still likes this job.
I love this job. And I love the
1:18:17
company. And it really is, as I
mentioned that American way
1:18:20
John C Dvorak: stop. What was
the question he got asked,
1:18:23
Adam Curry: Do you like the job?
1:18:27
John C Dvorak: Why okay?
1:18:30
Adam Curry: Do you still like
this job is what she says,
1:18:33
Unknown: in this position for
two years,
1:18:34
he still likes this job.
1:18:36
I love this job. And I love the
company.
1:18:37
Adam Curry: I think what you
know, this is Gail, she's at
1:18:41
this old get a broadcasting
systems. So basically saying,
1:18:44
what do you do you like this
assignment? What do you do like
1:18:48
this, you liked
1:18:48
John C Dvorak: this assignment.
1:18:51
Unknown: And I've been in this
position for two years, he still
1:18:53
likes this job. I love this job.
And I love the company. And it
1:18:56
really is, as I mentioned, an
American institution. And it's
1:18:59
really to me one operation. And
it's really, to me one degree of
1:19:06
separation away from the
1:19:09
Adam Curry: Shut up, because
what he says is funnier than
1:19:11
your remarks.
1:19:13
Unknown: And it's really to me
one degree of separation away
1:19:16
from the United States, the
American flag. And so even
1:19:20
though I'm not
1:19:21
Adam Curry: Yeah, he said
working at Anheuser Busch is
1:19:23
just one step away from the
American flag.
1:19:26
John C Dvorak: It's a Belgian
company,
1:19:28
Unknown: American institution.
And it's really to me one degree
1:19:31
of separation away from the
United States, the American
1:19:35
flag. And so even though I'm not
serving the country anymore, I
1:19:39
still feel like I have an
opportunity to support the
1:19:44
country and that's exactly what
Anheuser Busch gives us the
1:19:46
opportunity to do.
1:19:48
Adam Curry: Just replace country
for company. IE, the pickle
1:19:52
factory. i This guy he's as he's
as heat seeking missile. No way
1:19:58
I'd hire this guy for my Beer
Company. This is weird
1:20:02
Unknown: you're feeling you'll
get through this well,
1:20:04
Adam Curry: you'll get through
this Sure.
1:20:06
John C Dvorak: Let's ask
ourselves why did they hire him?
1:20:14
Adam Curry: Well they firstly
went to PepsiCo they
1:20:17
John C Dvorak: I'm sorry were
they told to hire him or as they
1:20:19
have a gun to their head
1:20:23
Adam Curry: did he come in
before the sale or after the
1:20:25
sale?
1:20:27
John C Dvorak: came in after the
sale okay
1:20:29
Adam Curry: to keep an eye on
those Belgians probably
1:20:33
John C Dvorak: but but why would
the Belgians hire him? Not say
1:20:37
no he's noises spoke
1:20:40
Adam Curry: Oh, I don't know.
Maybe it just felt right.
1:20:46
John C Dvorak: I think something
else is I think we there's a
1:20:48
piece of information that we're
missing
1:20:53
Adam Curry: Do you have any tick
tock LinkedIn
1:20:55
John C Dvorak: use they they're
still playing this game with
1:20:57
this with Bud Light and a whole
thing even though the sales have
1:21:00
gone down? They lost billions of
dollars in sales and market cap?
1:21:05
Yeah. So there's something you
end up with actual benefits
1:21:09
something's got to happen to
that's gonna make up for these
1:21:12
losses
1:21:12
Adam Curry: in the MTA. The
Manhattan Transit Authority has
1:21:15
signs up in in the subways. And
this is this is kind of where
1:21:21
I'm getting this thought from
this all about hate hate speech
1:21:24
laws which ridiculous service
information it's a poster on the
1:21:29
wall and has the pride rainbow
colors no bigotry hatred or
1:21:36
prejudice allowed at this
station at any time. Reminder
1:21:39
respect to trans people or your
pronouns will be was were
1:21:46
John C Dvorak: I saw this I'm
questioning whether this this
1:21:49
this image is a hoax looks
pretty real to me. It looks
1:21:54
real. But as we have anybody in
the field that can take a
1:21:57
picture the real sign
1:21:58
Adam Curry: will get one. But
regardless, it's me man. It's
1:22:02
the mean
1:22:03
John C Dvorak: it to me. I'm
thinking it's a created meme.
1:22:07
Adam Curry: It's the memes. We
got to be careful these memes
1:22:10
they're getting into my brain.
And it's it's incredible what's
1:22:16
happening. I grew I question
that sign. I looks really pretty
1:22:21
real to me. For one
1:22:22
John C Dvorak: thing I
questioned that sign existing
1:22:24
for more than 10 minutes with
some graffiti not being splashed
1:22:27
on it. Well, it goes
1:22:28
Adam Curry: along with 250
celebrities, celebrities and
1:22:33
allies who call on Instagram,
Facebook, YouTube, Tik Tok and
1:22:38
Twitter to stop the flow of anti
trans hate and malicious
1:22:42
disinformation about trans and
healthcare. open letter sent to
1:22:48
Mark Zuckerberg meta platforms
Neal Mohan YouTube jusy to tick
1:22:54
tock and Linda Yeah, Karina and
Elon Musk at Twitter. And you
1:22:59
know you're in for a good ride
when it starts off as as
1:23:03
celebrities influencers and
prominent public figures with
1:23:06
significant followings on social
media. We the undersigned are
1:23:11
calling on Instagram, Facebook,
YouTube, Tik Tok and Twitter to
1:23:14
fulfill the promises you've made
to transgender non binary,
1:23:17
gender nonconforming and all
LGBTQ users. In your terms of
1:23:21
service. There has been a
massive systemic failure to
1:23:25
prohibit hate, harassment and
malicious anti LGBTQ
1:23:29
disinformation on your platforms
and it must be addressed
1:23:35
dangerous posts, both content
and ads created and memes
1:23:40
created and circulated by a high
follower anti LGBTQ hate
1:23:45
accounts. targeting transgender
non binary and gender
1:23:49
nonconforming people are
thriving across your platforms
1:23:52
directly resulting in terrifying
real life harm, including bomb
1:23:57
threats, targeting children's
hospitals that offer a health
1:24:00
care for trans youth and death
threats targeting care
1:24:03
providers. Such false and hate
driven widely circulated content
1:24:07
on your platform is even being
cited by lawmakers advancing
1:24:10
discriminatory legislation
against trans people. This has
1:24:13
this is crazy. This is really
the it's off the rails and I
1:24:20
don't know what's going to
happen you know, dead naming
1:24:24
this is dangerous it is dead net
dead naming is violence.
1:24:29
John C Dvorak: Dead naming brush
forget about that.
1:24:33
Adam Curry: It's an every every
paragraph is hate speech. They
1:24:35
want hate speech laws. They want
to silence speech. And this has
1:24:40
already happened in the UK. It's
happening everywhere now. And
1:24:44
outside of the US. It Michigan
is out of control. I was
1:24:50
legislation HB 4474 would amend
the state's ethic intimidate
1:24:54
ethnic intimidation act of 1988,
which I didn't even know existed
1:24:58
in order to consider it a Hate
crime, whatever that is, if a
1:25:02
person is accused of causing
severe mental anguish to another
1:25:07
individual by means of perceived
verbal intimidation or
1:25:11
harassment. The amendment
defines the words intimidate or
1:25:15
harass as a, quote, willful
course of conduct involving
1:25:19
repeated or continuing
harassment of another individual
1:25:23
that would cause a reasonable
individual to feel terrorized,
1:25:27
frightened, intimidated, and
threatened, harassed or
1:25:32
molested. This start, John we
saw this happen right before our
1:25:38
very eyes. It started with
bullying in schools. We were
1:25:42
talking about this in 2009 and
then we got the hate speech
1:25:47
rules in school and then it
became legislation
1:25:52
John C Dvorak: this seems to be
it couldn't be an attack on
1:25:55
three speeches and couldn't be
could have been watching this.
1:25:58
They did an unsuccessful I
should mention it was Yeah, but
1:26:02
wow. And a lot of them bring the
you know, they promised they did
1:26:06
they have I don't know there's
some issues. Which brings me to
1:26:10
a couple of talk clips.
1:26:14
Adam Curry: Tick tock tock tick
tock was upgraded, upgraded the
1:26:22
jingle.
1:26:23
John C Dvorak: The one thing I
noticed I have two clips. And
1:26:27
one thing I've noticed is there
this first clip is not it's
1:26:31
another one you're going to
complain about the quality but
1:26:33
this is a person who just talks
about Neo pronouns That's all
1:26:38
she does Neo
1:26:39
Adam Curry: knee as in expanded
more new,
1:26:42
John C Dvorak: additional. And
in fact, you've seen a bunch of
1:26:45
Charlie Kirk and some of these
other guys are always getting
1:26:48
into trouble because they're
kind of outspoken about all this
1:26:51
and they have people you know,
call them transphobes and they
1:26:55
and you see the same thing I
could have gotten clips of these
1:26:57
where the guy says well what is
F? Kennedy pulled this off in
1:27:01
the Senate again you know where
he goes? Well what is the what
1:27:05
is somebody sexes? Are there how
many genders are there not and
1:27:08
today's as we speak, there's no
number of genders anymore. There
1:27:14
used to be 75 and there was 35
Now it's infinite. So as the
1:27:20
genders have gone to infinity,
the pronouns have gone off the
1:27:25
rails.
1:27:27
Adam Curry: And who are we going
to be listening to hear talk
1:27:30
litany of
1:27:31
John C Dvorak: Neo pronouns
1:27:32
Unknown: Tilak pronoun hot copy
pronouns Sun sunshine performed
1:27:35
today I'm going to show you how
to use spring springs pronouns
1:27:38
instead of cut butter cups
prototype butterflies pronoun
1:27:41
Adam Curry: is this like jump
cutting or something? What is it
1:27:43
what is the
1:27:44
John C Dvorak: lead they're all
this are all pieces of her
1:27:46
actually. Butterfly butter cup
pronouns But Teddy teddy bear
1:27:51
that she just lit she has names
all these new vo pronouns that
1:27:55
are just like what so we're
supposed to call people by their
1:27:58
pronouns are used their pronouns
and there's an infinite number.
1:28:01
There's no way we can know what
they are.
1:28:04
Adam Curry: There's a there's a
thing on Adobe, Adobe, Adobe
1:28:10
actually has a let me see if I
could find it here has a filter,
1:28:17
an AI filter mind you where you
can take crap like this that is
1:28:22
absolutely unbearable. And you
can just drag and drop it in
1:28:25
there and then it will make it
audible again. It's really it's
1:28:29
really worth looking into blue.
What's
1:28:30
John C Dvorak: it called?
1:28:31
Adam Curry: It's called Enhanced
speech near remove noise from
1:28:36
voice recordings with speech
enhancement. Oh, I
1:28:38
John C Dvorak: couldn't use this
for the Biden clip. You could
1:28:40
have use this clip here is that
is meaningless.
1:28:43
Adam Curry: So let's go hold on
because I dragged it in there
1:28:46
you're gonna drive there it is.
I'm gonna write right now and
1:28:48
let me just pick up okay hold
on. Let me just download it here
1:28:52
hold on. Let's see how it works
out now
1:28:54
Unknown: really to let Pronin
hop papi pronouns then sunshine
1:28:57
performed today I'm going to
show you how to use spring
1:28:59
springs pronouns Buttercup, but
it cuts prototype butterflies
1:29:02
throwing off has pronouns lead
quality pits pronoun de hos
1:29:06
pronouns boom blooms, pronouns
and Nora Moll forever forevers
1:29:09
paneer dears pronouns and their
tarts pronouns abused warm
1:29:12
cuantos roses pronoun dubbed UPS
pronouns and sweets pronouns and
1:29:16
Teddy
1:29:17
Adam Curry: Okay, that was Teddy
Bear proto the clip was not
1:29:20
great.
1:29:21
John C Dvorak: I think that they
did an admirable job but now I
1:29:25
want you to since we're doing
this in real time this the way
1:29:28
our show is I want you to run
that Biden clip into that thing.
1:29:32
Okay, hold on that was that
Biden Iran says Iraq instead of
1:29:36
Iraq Ukraine Okay,
1:29:38
Adam Curry: hold on a second.
Let me upload here we go drag
1:29:42
and drop. Oh, it doesn't like
this for some reason. Oh, what
1:29:47
is this? Oh? Okay, hold on a
second.
1:29:50
John C Dvorak: He got Mrs.
1:29:51
Adam Curry: got mad at me clip
they got mad at me. And I was
1:29:54
mad at you. Yeah, cuz I'd
already uploaded something I
1:29:57
don't know. He's probably gonna
say you're using our AI Too much
1:30:00
curry go away. Okay, rock. Here
we go. Let's drag it in here
1:30:03
we're enhancing speech. So I
actually considered for some
1:30:08
reason it's not doing it. It
won't do Joe Biden because it's
1:30:13
against the terms of service to
make him illegible says it right
1:30:17
here. There's no such thing as
it right here. And he said
1:30:20
enhancing speech change the name
of the clip. Yeah, that's
1:30:23
exactly what I did. So yeah,
it's free. You can get this from
1:30:27
Adobe and I've used this on
really bad interviews and I
1:30:30
considered using it for this
Biden thing, but I was like, the
1:30:33
whole world has already seen
this thing. Let's do the second
1:30:37
tic tock clip while I'm waiting
for that to enhance.
1:30:40
John C Dvorak: Okay, now this
clip is is this is actually a
1:30:43
general practitioner. This is a
doctor. This could be your
1:30:47
doctor. And this is a doctor who
is I can't even remember if it's
1:30:53
a woman jaisa trans doctor or
not. I'm sorry, what am I
1:30:57
thinking? It's a non binary
doctor who's just sick of people
1:31:02
not using the right pronouns.
Yes, it's
1:31:05
Adam Curry: a cut because it's
hate speech.
1:31:07
Unknown: I'm sorry to hear that.
But as people have been pointing
1:31:10
out, I am not a she. I noticed
that you deleted your comment
1:31:15
where you said that I most
definitely am a woman but I'm
1:31:20
not my sex is female. That was
determined at my birth when my
1:31:25
doctor took one look at my
external genitalia and declared
1:31:27
me to be female. But I am non
binary which means I am not a
1:31:32
woman and I am not a man. I am
transgender because my gender
1:31:38
does not match my six which was
determined at birth I choose to
1:31:43
express myself as masculine so I
am trans masculine or trans mask
1:31:48
my man them
1:31:51
and my name is Asha. It was
formally Natasha please do not
1:31:56
refer to me as a woman anymore.
Thank you.
1:32:00
John C Dvorak: Okay, this is a
new term I
1:32:02
Adam Curry: just recently
learned this clip Man's mask was
1:32:04
the see at the end trans mask
trans
1:32:06
John C Dvorak: mask t r a n s m
a s see what who can keep up
1:32:14
Adam Curry: no but the point is
please do not call me this and
1:32:17
if you do then you'll get
reported and then you get
1:32:20
written up and it that's this is
it's ultimately it's if you
1:32:24
think it's about protecting kids
it's not it's just about
1:32:28
shutting people up. It's so
obvious here's the Biden clip
1:32:31
now that it's been enhanced,
1:32:33
Unknown: has slammed man who has
been weakened by recently banned
1:32:37
it's hard to tell but is he
clearly winning the war and
1:32:39
rocky rooting the war at home
and we as a company common to
1:32:44
have right
1:32:44
around the world. I found this
hotset vedo
1:32:48
Adam Curry: Hazza see riffin
union it's interesting so it
1:32:51
actually changes his voice for
some reason.
1:32:54
John C Dvorak: It changes his
voice a little bit and it makes
1:32:56
him even more muddy. I mean the
clarity of the clip is there but
1:33:01
but he's kind of assuring her I
am very saying the work that
1:33:04
very accurately is kind of
brought out
1:33:07
Adam Curry: is brought out I
don't think is good anyway was
1:33:11
good. I'll send you the link
it's worth it for a lot of
1:33:14
things it's worth it please.
Well, and with that I'd like to
1:33:17
thank you for your currency in
the morning to you the man who
1:33:19
put the see just now in trance
mask ladies and gentlemen say
1:33:23
hello to my friend on the other
end the one and only Mr. John
1:33:33
John C Dvorak: crushing them
worship see boots on the ground
1:33:35
feet near subs in the water
Allah deems a nice out there
1:33:37
Adam Curry: and in the morning
trolls they're the troll room.
1:33:40
Very troll me today hands up you
ugly now what is it good number
1:33:48
for Thursday. I'm gonna Thursday
1:33:50
John C Dvorak: good numbers 18
And
1:33:50
Adam Curry: under 1904. Nice
nice. Hello trolls. Good to have
1:33:55
you here. I'm whatever happened
on the last show people liked
1:34:00
it. People got what they liked
what we did on the last show
1:34:03
people got value from it. Oh,
they found it valuable. And the
1:34:07
way they express that is by
sending us very long donation
1:34:11
notes that no
1:34:12
John C Dvorak: donation notes
are out of control.
1:34:15
Adam Curry: You don't want to
miss the donation segment
1:34:17
because there's some funny stuff
in here and there's always new
1:34:19
information that comes to light
when people send it oh, what are
1:34:22
we drinking today?
1:34:24
John C Dvorak: A Bud Light.
1:34:26
Adam Curry: No, you're you're
lying. You lie.
1:34:29
John C Dvorak: I turned out I
found another can of the polar
1:34:33
plane on flavored seltzer.
1:34:36
Adam Curry: That's interesting.
I just got so here's the here's
1:34:41
that here's the donation segment
clip. If you're if you left then
1:34:46
you're missing this. Are you
ready? Here you go.
1:34:49
Unknown: Listen up. Dentists are
now warning about the dangers of
1:34:51
seltzer now that the drink is
becoming more popular than ever.
1:34:55
Many use the carbonated water as
a low sugar replacement for soda
1:34:58
but dentists are warning that
ulcer has assets that can harm
1:35:02
or even wipe out tooth enamel.
So they recommend rinsing your
1:35:05
mouth with regular water between
seltzers to wash out that acid
1:35:09
or just drink with a straw
1:35:12
Adam Curry: drink it with a
drink it with a straw hold
1:35:15
John C Dvorak: on is what acid
well I
1:35:19
Adam Curry: actually asked
Maverick he didn't get back to
1:35:23
me I tried to get him he's
probably in surgery because I
1:35:25
want to know what this is about
is this because it just seems to
1:35:28
me like a beverage war of some
sort. I doubt that this
1:35:32
John C Dvorak: is seltzer is
sparkling water there's no
1:35:35
difference.
1:35:36
Adam Curry: Well, you heard it
right here. You heard it
1:35:39
John C Dvorak: may if they're
adding something like if you
1:35:41
want to talk about something
that could go after your tooth
1:35:44
enamel you have to look at at
the flavored beverages like Coca
1:35:47
Cola and Pepsi Cola which have
phosphoric acid you can see it
1:35:52
on the label phosphoric acid in
the product which is kind of
1:35:57
caustic but seltzer is Seltzer
1:36:02
Adam Curry: and check this out
just hot off the press from
1:36:05
Reuters today exclusive. W H O
's Cancer Research Agency say
1:36:11
aspartame sweetener a possible
carcinogen. No, you don't say
1:36:19
how long we've been talking
about aspartame as long as we've
1:36:22
been talking about the American
thing the anything Yeah.
1:36:26
Unbelievable. anyway enjoy
yourself sir there. I will I can
1:36:32
tell you exactly what it feels
like when you have to have oral
1:36:35
oral work done. Well thank you
trolls for hanging up the very
1:36:40
trollee today you know this
there's always a gummy nerds and
1:36:44
an Atmel Kurtz and these people
like I don't like this This
1:36:48
isn't this is boring. This shows
no good. And I was like where's
1:36:51
your podcast? Host no
1:36:52
Unknown: good going on
1:36:53
Adam Curry: show dickweed
where's your show? Blue douche
1:36:58
33 Please. Now you can join the
trolls and fight them that's
1:37:04
what people do they fight back
and forth is kind of funny and
1:37:07
it's it's almost an unmoderated
chat room you got really got to
1:37:10
be doing something weird before
you get kicked out of there. Now
1:37:12
I didn't even boot anyway
1:37:13
John C Dvorak: has to be kind of
aimed at Adam.
1:37:16
Adam Curry: No one is aimed at
me that everyone loves it. No,
1:37:22
you have to like do a flood of
paste flood or something. Now if
1:37:27
they're just trolling me they
love it. They think it's funny.
1:37:29
Yeah. Look at him get no mad.
Now the way to do this, if
1:37:36
you're gonna be a troll, get a
new podcast app and podcast
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apps.com You can use fountain I
like pod verse because it gives
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your legacy podcasts into it.
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Everything works. Drop Apple,
please drop. If you're using
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1:38:25
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each other names. You know, it's
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there. They're posting bad memes
1000s of them What do you miss
1:38:35
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appropriately titled Wagner the
1:39:54
dog and how could we not choose
a hot dog caring of flag that
1:40:00
says false on it. Russian made
180 degrees. I mean, yellow
1:40:07
seems to be the color of art
these days for some reason, I'm
1:40:10
noticing that a lot of yellow is
being used. Have you noticed
1:40:13
this always a winner is yellow
always a winner Is that Is that
1:40:17
a fact?
1:40:18
John C Dvorak: They use there
was a study done on packaging,
1:40:21
software packaging. And they
determined that most of the
1:40:25
thing that jumps off the shelf
and turret is the days when they
1:40:28
have computer stores. What jumps
off the shelf is black lettering
1:40:32
and a yellow background
packaging.
1:40:33
Adam Curry: So what would an
example of that be in the
1:40:35
software world?
1:40:37
John C Dvorak: Lotus was Lotus
oh
1:40:39
Adam Curry: right Lotus 123
probably
1:40:41
John C Dvorak: than that then
the only reason they use those
1:40:43
colors because of the market
research they did?
1:40:46
Adam Curry: Well, poster Paul
couture nailed it because he had
1:40:49
black letters on a yellow
background and it was also there
1:40:52
were other people who did hot
dog art which some which we
1:40:55
liked but it didn't I mean, as
you said, this one had motion
1:41:00
you know the hot dog is marching
and and the false the false flag
1:41:03
and the literal false flag was
just too funny. So you know, but
1:41:07
we again value returned by the
artist for the value we provide
1:41:11
and we actually turn around and
give them some value by telling
1:41:14
them why we didn't choose their
art which is which is something
1:41:18
that you will not get in the
professional art world ever.
1:41:22
Ever. You just won't choose your
but they'll never tell you why
1:41:25
they tell you they'll never tell
you what sucks. Emphasize it
1:41:29
just sucks man. So we had let me
see we'll be had I kind of liked
1:41:33
Francisco Scara mangoes U turn
Wagner U turn sign with a
1:41:41
John C Dvorak: Yeah, I liked it
too. I also like the hot dog
1:41:43
done by certain net Ned. Let me
see which one that was cute.
1:41:47
Adam Curry: And he had the
Ukraine flag which was very very
1:41:50
close to me and they're so
similar those hotdogs and that
1:41:53
was some kind of some kind of
clip art they've both licensed
1:41:58
and mangled to their own have no
idea. I also very much like
1:42:03
Taunton Neil's ding dongs now
with Ling Ling.
1:42:07
John C Dvorak: Yeah, I liked
this piece as a standalone piece
1:42:10
but it was a little ding dong is
not so much. You know, it's just
1:42:15
a throw away. It's just that it
was It wasn't as connective
1:42:20
connected to the show as I'd
like even though I'm the one who
1:42:23
said Ling Ling and ding dong,
which was hilarious. Yeah, that
1:42:27
was I thought that was their
names but
1:42:30
Adam Curry: capitalist agenda
also had the communist wieners
1:42:34
which is the hammer and sickle
with the high was cute. It was
1:42:38
cute. Yeah, it was more than
kind of cute named Kenny. Ben
1:42:41
had a Wagner that there was a
lot Okay,
1:42:43
John C Dvorak: let's stop and
say there was a lot of nice
1:42:46
pieces any which any one of
which could have been used. It
1:42:50
just so happens that Couture's
piece was
1:42:54
Adam Curry: was better was
dynamite. Now you use the
1:42:57
network sleep well at night. The
moon with the
1:43:01
John C Dvorak: Yeah, I just
thought that was a pleasant
1:43:03
piece of art. Yeah,
1:43:04
Adam Curry: and I want to give
an honorable mention you do you
1:43:07
hated it. You just disgusted
you. I really like dirty jersey.
1:43:11
Whores woke kid you know,
leaning against the television
1:43:15
screen. We had the rainbow on
it. I really thought that was
1:43:19
cute.
1:43:20
John C Dvorak: If I wasn't
disgusted by one thing that
1:43:23
looks like a test pattern of any
sort that I've seen a million
1:43:26
times. I thought the art was
somewhat simplistic. I liked a
1:43:30
dyed hair is kind of cute. But I
didn't think it was artsy
1:43:34
enough.
1:43:36
Adam Curry: Well, it deserved to
lose again sir Poker Tour, but
1:43:40
still it was I thought it was It
wasn't wasn't bad at all. Wasn't
1:43:43
bad. Yeah, I
1:43:44
John C Dvorak: didn't like it at
all. Okay.
1:43:46
Adam Curry: Thank you very much
to all the artists who
1:43:48
participate in this, we really
appreciate it. It really, when
1:43:51
we're done with the show, and
let's face it, after three,
1:43:54
three and a half hours of show
we're done with each other, we
1:43:57
still have something fun to do.
And we can feel we can pick art
1:44:01
and and really, you know, it's
like, I'll go into the bathroom.
1:44:04
I really gotta pee John's
already done that, of course,
1:44:06
during the the meetup segment,
he has the bathroom nearby, I
1:44:09
gotta walk a little bit further.
And then we're all reset. You
1:44:12
know, we're like, hey, let's
argue about some art. And it's
1:44:14
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It's very valuable to us and
1:44:17
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1:44:21
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1:44:25
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1:45:09
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Stephen George from Finland
1:45:14
Minnesota John you have a note
1:45:18
John C Dvorak: Yes, I do. Steven
rice been listening to every
1:45:23
episode get your pen up because
he's got some requests for the
1:45:26
jingles No. Oh yeah, that too.
Sorry. I'm thinking that that
1:45:31
roundtable Oh, I'm listening
every episode and getting plenty
1:45:34
of value over the next two
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1:45:36
first donation. This is 1033 dot
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I've been putting off donating
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Human Resources chuckle Oh, but
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1:46:04
so in other words, we got no dad
joke out of him. No zero dad
1:46:07
joke. I'll have a Ragnar
Minnesota rye whiskey. R Okay.
1:46:15
Na R Minnesota. Bri whiskey.
Never heard of it yet, but it's
1:46:19
probably good. Probably 10
Costco pepperoni pizza.
1:46:22
Adam Curry: That now that that
pizza is pretty good. Yeah, I
1:46:26
would take a Tums with that.
Although I prefer the hotdog at
1:46:29
Costco. The hotdog
1:46:31
John C Dvorak: at Costco says is
probably one of those last most
1:46:33
cost effective winner outside
the chicken.
1:46:36
Adam Curry: It's like $1.25 and
you get the hot dog and
1:46:41
John C Dvorak: 65 here What do
you mean a buck? 25 You're
1:46:43
Adam Curry: in California man.
1:46:44
John C Dvorak: There's no way
it's a buck 25 There
1:46:48
Adam Curry: I thought it was a
buck 25 Last time I was there I
1:46:50
may be wrong. Maybe you are I
may be wrong.
1:46:53
John C Dvorak: Well Dynamo could
use some house okay, we continue
1:46:56
Yes, I could use some house
buying karma business starting
1:47:00
karma and land development our
two d two karma. Wow. Okay,
1:47:05
Adam Curry: well that means you
you get some RTD to karma.
1:47:09
Governor we got more
1:47:11
John C Dvorak: jiggles for the
kids. I need a Virginia's a
1:47:14
sleepy creepy Joe. Brand and
poop pants. Noodle gun dubby Tec
1:47:20
seven. And if it's not too much
to ask, and it is good. You play
1:47:25
the everything's a scam song at
the end of the show. Okay, my
1:47:31
kiddos, sleep.
1:47:32
Adam Curry: Hold on hold on the
sleepy Joe. Brandon poops his
1:47:36
pants.
1:47:38
John C Dvorak: Got to know
that's that jingle? Yeah, Little
1:47:41
John and WT C seven. Exactly how
those fit together. I have no
1:47:46
idea
1:47:47
Adam Curry: right noodle gun.
Hold on a second. Okay, I got
1:47:49
this over here. Got the scammed
and I'm fact noodle gun. Man.
1:47:58
This is so much yes. Okay. obtc
1:48:02
John C Dvorak: Seven will go
away. Wow. And he was
1:48:05
everything's a scam song at the
end if you can. This is already
1:48:08
too much. My kiddos. He says
specifically. Love that one. And
1:48:13
yes, I do call them kiddos all
the time. Sorry, guys. Thanks a
1:48:19
bunch for what you do. And then
he's it. Tasha, I'm going to
1:48:24
send you a copy of this. His 11
year old daughter says Gwyneth
1:48:30
Vir I think are going to Uverse
it's hard to say read his
1:48:33
writing whenever he was a comics
he she did two comics for us.
1:48:38
And one of them is funny as with
about you, you're up. I'll send
1:48:44
these to you. But they're funny.
I just give her credit for
1:48:46
giving to funny cartoons that
are hard to explain.
1:48:49
Adam Curry: Alright, we're done.
Let me see if I
1:48:51
Unknown: know he would go Should
we go?
1:49:00
With a minute
1:49:07
I get to my pasta Glads locked
and loaded
1:49:21
John C Dvorak: nailed it. Dame
can the show's over.
1:49:24
Adam Curry: Yeah. Dame Catherine
is in Bangkok. And she comes in
1:49:28
with $1,006.96.
1:49:32
John C Dvorak: Yes, she's our
she's been a supporter forever.
1:49:36
But she tells us a little story
here in this note that I find
1:49:39
distressing. I don't
1:49:40
Adam Curry: think she's been a
supporter at all. Yes, she
1:49:43
John C Dvorak: has this cat that
this is the woman in Bangkok
1:49:47
that lets out of her apartment
and we've mentioned her for
1:49:50
years she's been I don't think
she's
1:49:52
Adam Curry: I don't think she's
ever I don't think she's ever
1:49:55
sent any donations.
1:49:57
John C Dvorak: I think she has.
Well I No she we've been in
1:50:00
contact with her forever.
1:50:01
Adam Curry: She says I saw Adam
on the Max Keiser show and 2016
1:50:05
walking down a very noisy Austin
street Max got me interested in
1:50:08
Bitcoin and crypto in 2015 I've
done very well for myself, so
1:50:12
I'm donating this $1,000 in
Bitcoin as a switcheroo for my
1:50:16
son JD Sutton in Durango. No JD
Sutton sounds familiar?
1:50:20
Definitely. And it was a Bitcoin
donation let me just put JD
1:50:25
Sutton here now to make sure
that we do that right. Please
1:50:29
Knight him sir JD of the
shimmering deep sea. I first
1:50:34
listened to the no agenda show
and heard the little girl scream
1:50:36
Shut up slave. I thought OMG
these guys are pedos into s&m?
1:50:43
Are you sure? This is what you
think it is? Yet I continued
1:50:48
listening and laughing to this
day. I now live in Bangkok and
1:50:51
learn more about what's going on
in America from YouTube than
1:50:53
anyone else. Else. Love the
boots on the ground reports Yes,
1:50:56
I listened to the donation
segments as well. Yes, you
1:50:58
should. Could you please create
a Bitcoin jingle like the one
1:51:01
you did for Joe Rogan donations?
Thank you in advance. Oh, I
1:51:06
didn't do a Bitcoin jingle. But
I have one for you. Don't worry
1:51:11
about that. I've been an expat
living abroad since 2004. The
1:51:15
Patriot Act was my red line. I
lived 10 years in Zanzibar, an
1:51:19
island off East Africa. I'm
familiar. I had a gorgeous
1:51:22
rooftop Penthouse and one day my
farmer friend Suleyman and I
1:51:26
went and bought some flowers on
the way home Suliman said We
1:51:29
zanzibaris don't grow flowers
because we were poor we only
1:51:32
grow food. Then he said when I'm
rich I'm gonna grow flowers. I
1:51:35
asked what is the definition of
being rich? Without hesitation
1:51:38
he replied being riches having
enough to share with others.
1:51:41
I've been a hodler for years. I
know there are more of you out
1:51:45
there now is the time to rise up
and support the best podcast in
1:51:48
the universe with Bitcoin share
the wealth Dame Catherine crypto
1:51:53
granny of Bangkok. Please take
me out with a little girl she
1:51:57
wants to the Bitcoin jingle a
little girl yay and a shut up
1:52:04
slave. I think we can do that
for you.
1:52:08
Unknown: That's and all hell is
gonna break loose and you're
1:52:11
gonna need a Bitcoin
1:52:14
Adam Curry: slave JD Sutton on
deck. You got it? Thank you
1:52:19
crypto granny.
1:52:20
John C Dvorak: long note from
circumvent 34567 Hey, Adam. Yes,
1:52:26
just a quick note it was Dame G
money's birthday on Monday 26th
1:52:31
June and I sent a donation in
for that but it somehow got
1:52:34
missed.
1:52:35
Adam Curry: I sent it to the
wrong PayPal.
1:52:38
John C Dvorak: To Jhansi Dvorak
company pay pal send it
1:52:41
Adam Curry: to the old one, the
old one. So But still I'll take
1:52:45
the blame. It's my fault. I'm
sorry. If he
1:52:47
John C Dvorak: says it's your
fault. It's my Did you give her
1:52:50
a late birthday shout out. Yeah,
of course. Of course. Also, why
1:52:54
do people call Dylan Mulvaney T.
G. He is not t g is a woman's
1:53:00
parody, like Dame Edna everage.
1:53:03
Adam Curry: Who's now deceased?
Yeah. Barry Humphries. No, I
1:53:07
John C Dvorak: would have called
Barry Humphries. TG Dylan
1:53:11
Mulvaney is a shitty actor
playing a role as a woman cuz he
1:53:15
couldn't get work as a man. She
never even bothered taking on a
1:53:19
female name. Just my two cents
worth. I have I attached an ISO
1:53:25
of Ted Cruz thanking you for
your courage, which could be an
1:53:28
endless show I so for you. This
is from a hearing was Riley
1:53:31
Gaines, a swimmer who tied tied
with Lisa Lea Thompson. Oh, and
1:53:37
this will make me a baron. Not
sure whether there's a size
1:53:40
restriction on protectorates,
but I would like to be the Baron
1:53:43
of the Northern Territory if you
haven't seen that promotional
1:53:45
stuff. Here's the link. They are
somewhat irrelevant reverent.
1:53:52
Anyway, thank you for your
courage. Great show. As always,
1:53:55
if I can get a goat car man, uh,
you are going to love President
1:53:59
Trump
1:54:00
Adam Curry: that we don't have a
you're going to love president I
1:54:02
never heard that either. But
I'll do this for you. I'll do
1:54:05
any wants goat karma. So they
did dumps they call them dumps
1:54:10
big massive dump that should be
good enough we go to Alan green
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in Ogden, Utah. 333 Dots 33. And
you know, the Biden No, no, no,
1:54:24
no, that was your clip that's
not a jingle we I didn't I saw
1:54:27
that. Right. Did you make an ISO
of that?
1:54:30
John C Dvorak: No, you'd have to
look it up. Yes, still in the
1:54:33
pile? Yeah, but
1:54:34
Adam Curry: what was it called?
Because
1:54:35
John C Dvorak: you like didn't
make it into a show mix? Yeah,
1:54:38
but what would the ISO be
called? No, no, no. No, I wish
1:54:43
should be ISO No.
1:54:46
Adam Curry: Now we have an ISO
No, but I'm looking for the one
1:54:49
that the recent clip that you
had, and I yeah,
1:54:52
John C Dvorak: that I also
turned that in as an ISO. Well,
1:54:55
I think that's it. No,
1:54:57
Adam Curry: it's not. Well, no,
I don't have it. It's It's not
1:55:00
here. That's just not true.
1:55:02
John C Dvorak: Okay, what did
forget it?
1:55:03
Adam Curry: I'm sorry. In The
Morning John Adam Joe Rogan
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One before we're dead. I love
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you no agenda I love you John
and Adam thank you for your
1:56:07
service jingles Trump I'm going
to come by and no no, no, no.
1:56:11
How about I do How about to do
on Obama? No, no, no, no. That
1:56:15
should that should make you feel
somewhat better. Working out I'm
1:56:17
gonna come
1:56:19
Unknown: get yah yah yah. Yah.
Yah. Yah. Yah. Yah. Bama
1:56:25
John C Dvorak: No, no, no, no,
no, no, no no no. Karma.
1:56:32
Matthew, rack wall I think
that'd be a CHW al in the land
1:56:39
in Wisconsin. Looks like. Quite
a few episodes ago, John brought
1:56:43
up IBM Watson while talking
about AI and it reminded me of
1:56:46
the time work in a small
startup. We leveraged Watson to
1:56:49
consume news articles and match
products relevant to the item.
1:56:53
The article in our Add Widget.
Surely after going live or
1:56:56
receive panic calls about our
widget, it suggested children's
1:57:01
underwear for an article about
child abuse and molestation.
1:57:05
Thank you AI. And shortly after
that is suggested fire starting
1:57:10
supplies for an article about a
house that burned.
1:57:14
Adam Curry: That's IBM AI at
work.
1:57:16
John C Dvorak: Yeah. As a result
of widget was quickly removed
1:57:20
from the hard news section. You
think IBM Watson then became an
1:57:23
excessively expensive keyword
matcher for sports articles, and
1:57:27
sports paraphernalia. However,
when we told investors that we
1:57:31
were leveraging IBM's AI Watson
it really wooed them. Hi, love
1:57:36
is lit. Thanks you for the best
podcast in the universe. Can I
1:57:39
get an AI Sharpton mitt mix? On
June 29? Is my 33rd birthday.
1:57:44
Can you add me to the list?
You're on the list? Thank you.
1:57:46
Adam Curry: We need an AI
Sharpton. All I got is Al
1:57:49
Sharpton
1:57:49
Unknown: night is the measure of
whether the country begins in
1:57:55
the state of Wisconsin a
national drive to push back or
1:58:00
whether we have more to go to
build a movement of resistance
1:58:05
but resist yeah much. We must
and we will much about that. Be
1:58:13
committed
1:58:14
Adam Curry: therapy. There are
people who can do that whole
1:58:16
thing from front to back. I love
that. And do you need karma no
1:58:21
just sharpen surveilled is in
Palmetto Florida 333 33. Adam
1:58:26
and John you guys are killing it
with a no agenda podcast. It's
1:58:29
like a breath of fresh air in
the world where news feels more
1:58:32
like a broken record every day.
Your value for value model is
1:58:35
pure genius. Cutting out the
commercials and letting us
1:58:38
listeners show our appreciation
directly is the way to go.
1:58:42
Thanks for the hours of thought
provoking entertainment and
1:58:44
here's to many more attaches my
accounting for a title change of
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Baron to vie count on my way to
URL please change my title to
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surveilled vie count of female
region number four I would
1:58:55
appreciate a little health karma
and anything Sharpton surveilled
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by Count FEMA Region four and
ESP ICT you've got karma
1:59:13
John C Dvorak: sir Nacho
Alcatraz is the note of the day
1:59:16
with he's in Mexico and he says
ITM from Mexico Caballeros so
1:59:22
Nacho Alcatraz 33333 and a
potter
1:59:25
Adam Curry: Manyana to you
Nikolai nickel off is a
1:59:28
northborough Massachusetts 333
dot 33 Happy St Peters and Paul
1:59:33
day thanks for all you do no
jingles no karma. Thank you
1:59:36
Nicola.
1:59:38
John C Dvorak: Benjamin Bower in
Placerville, California is up
1:59:42
there in the area where Dana is
Oh, thanks for making me laugh
1:59:47
at the insane world we live in
to your listener first time
1:59:50
donation her Gian JRE Joe Rogan
donation in need of a dude
1:59:55
douching and some yet karma Keep
up the good work boys Eldorado
1:59:59
Slayer Turkey
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Unknown: you've been deed deuced
you've got
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Adam Curry: Chris serve Valera
Superleggera, Ocala, Florida
2:00:15
333. Adam and John, I'm in
desperate need of a de douche.
2:00:20
You've been deep deuced. I would
like to call out Glenn Bukowski
2:00:25
Esquire as a douchebag. Many
years ago Glenn hit me in the
2:00:29
mouth when we were in law school
since then both of us have
2:00:32
become lawyers here in the Free
State of Florida. However, while
2:00:35
Glenn donated prior to being
called to the Bar he has yet to
2:00:38
donate as a lawyer. Ah, you're
right. I would argue that when
2:00:42
we become lawyers, we sell our
souls and our prior selves cease
2:00:45
to exist. He needs to atone and
live up to his Esquire status by
2:00:50
sharing some of the fruits of
his billable hours with the
2:00:52
show. I'm in I'm in agreement on
that lawyers you need to repent.
2:00:58
Quickly proclaiming the two
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you do. No jingles no karma.
Nice note man. Thank you
2:01:36
appreciate that.
2:01:37
John C Dvorak: Baron Finch in
Portland 23456 Associate
2:01:41
Executive Producer love the
newsletter JCD stellar shows of
2:01:47
late gents. ATM jingles? Don't
drone me bro. Two Two they had
2:01:53
Boom shaka laka girl much needed
work karma Baron Finch
2:01:58
Adam Curry: I don't think
there's a don't draw me bro
2:02:02
jingle I think that was a sign
that I held up Does that make
2:02:06
sense? I don't know to
2:02:12
John C Dvorak: join again maybe
don't draw on me bro. I don't
2:02:16
remember when that you mentioned
I do remember the sign
2:02:20
Adam Curry: on a second Where is
I can't find anything right now
2:02:23
for some reason to the head I
can't find a single thing okay.
2:02:28
I can do drone again. I'm doing
that drone again. Ah Shakalaka
2:02:46
John C Dvorak: you've got karma
circle and node for black last
2:02:52
night you T Yes. He's in
Philadelphia to to to Hill Road
2:02:56
ducks. He has a handwritten note
Hey, John, what happened to
2:03:04
those ladies after their tickets
in caught in the wringer? Do
2:03:09
they make it out? Okay. Oh my
goodness. My birthday is June
2:03:15
30. And I am in need of a cheer
up karma love you mean it black
2:03:22
knights sir E T. karma karma to
be easy it could be easy not at
2:03:32
all.
2:03:32
Adam Curry: It's probably hard
to say probably. Let's must be
2:03:36
easy. I think I remembered Yeah,
I think it is all right. Kelly P
2:03:39
rego rego Macao Miko Miko Miko
Hawaii road ducks 222 switch a
2:03:48
room aka wat Oh Makka Wha Oh,
well, it doesn't matter because
2:03:51
it's a switcheroo from Kelly
rego to pluma aka Heather
2:03:57
Godwin, so I guess we'll put
that in, aka Heather Godwin. He
2:04:01
got that done. In the morning,
John Adams rove ducks is a
2:04:05
switcheroo in honor of my dear
friend pluma. Instead of hitting
2:04:08
her in the mouth, I decided to
jumpstart her path to day mode.
2:04:11
No nice gift. I am deeply
grateful. She got me to listen
2:04:14
to the best podcast in the
universe. I've been listening
2:04:16
since 2021 and appreciate all
the value you've added to my
2:04:19
life. It's Plumose birthday on
Wednesday, June 28. If you could
2:04:23
please add it to the birthday
list of course. Could I get to
2:04:26
jingles Could I get some mac and
cheese? Yeah we got some mac and
2:04:29
cheese and I got ants got a
little bit of that for you for
2:04:32
sure. Love was lit. Thank you
for all you do. That is from
2:04:37
Kelly.
2:04:38
John C Dvorak: You slaves get
get used to mac and cheese.
2:04:42
Macaroni and cheese melted
together mac and cheese mac and
2:04:47
cheese mac and cheese
2:04:59
out GOT ANTS you've got karma
named Beth. On June 21. She
2:05:12
writes Heil boy. Heil, an
amazing crew of familiar and new
2:05:18
faces assembled for the two hot
Tucson Solstice Soiree and had a
2:05:23
great time we even hit our
server in the mouth. Over the
2:05:28
past three weeks we have had oak
fire burn. Nearly sir. Oh, we
2:05:33
had an oak fire interest of Boca
Oak 3300 acres in event
2:05:39
quantifier in our beloved. Santa
Catalina Mountains burned 133
2:05:44
acres. We humbly request one
share of the rain stick shake
2:05:47
our starter, the kick ours to
kickstart our slacker monsoon
2:05:53
season season please.
2:05:55
Adam Curry: You said share but
I'm sure she said share. Do you
2:05:59
have your Do you have your
equipment?
2:06:03
John C Dvorak: I said shares it
of what instead of shake. Oh, I
2:06:07
said one shake? Sorry. Yeah, I
do have it right here. So is
2:06:12
that what that does it I have to
meet the flipper once?
2:06:15
Adam Curry: Well, one shake
means let's Okay, let's just do
2:06:18
two to one on one. Now over and
then back. It's the excess half
2:06:22
one one and then back. That's
okay. 123 Here we go. You're
2:06:30
shaking too much. You're shaking
too much. You're shaking too
2:06:33
much.
2:06:33
John C Dvorak: I'm shaking. What
do you weigh as bites away? You
2:06:35
shake it? I get the right get
the instruction. Well,
2:06:38
Adam Curry: I wish you many
monsoons in northern Silicon
2:06:41
Valley. She
2:06:42
John C Dvorak: says thank you on
she says named Beth on behalf of
2:06:45
the Southern Arizona slave flood
2:06:48
Adam Curry: somewhere. It's
obvious. Yeah. Because you know,
2:06:52
you're not acting very
professional that way
2:06:54
John C Dvorak: I play I'm doing
it exactly the way you're
2:06:56
supposed to do it. I know what
you're up to.
2:07:01
Adam Curry: I was taught by the
best but Okay. Sure. Eric.
2:07:04
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nose grounds. gratia gratia
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aggression that's got shit fort
Gratiot Yeah, I remember.
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Michigan 207 15 Interesting. So
Eric of yield forge jobs. Karma
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may be making some changes in my
life milk early celebration of
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the birthday of my smokin hot
wife 29 years and they never had
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a fight. And Boom shakalaka we
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have
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jobs for jobs. Armand
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Brooklyn, New York. I just want
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to want you to know that CNC
routers without a vacuum table
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suck and Johnson the coffee
roaster is probably still a
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keepin on you guys have kept me
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sane for the last three years
Scott?
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jobs for jobs.
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Jobs.
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John C Dvorak: Roll like our
buddy in North Korea everybody
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who's always donating the
gloves. Donation. McLaughlin
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Adam Curry: Finally, Kevin final
Associate Executive producer sir
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Nevada $200. In the morning, you
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too. I'm offering a belated
birthday donation for myself. I
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turned 23 on June 4. We wanted
to wait to have this letter read
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concluding with a visit to Great
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exploration in Nevada that
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hopefully you find interesting.
The I read that
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John C Dvorak: if you did you
read it. It's very interesting.
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Adam Curry: If I could get a
biscuit on my birthday of course
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they always give me a biscuit on
my birthday. And my favorite ISO
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is Alex Jones. Twilight Zone. We
have that we have the Twilight
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Zone. Twilight. Yes, I do have.
I do have that for you. And I'd
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like some karma and I sure
appreciate all of that. Thanks
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for what you do you to do it
certain dirty dirt. Oh no.
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That's the next one. That's sir
Devon. Yes, thank you. I'm
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living in a twilight zone you go
and a little bit of karma for
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you. Thank you so much. You've
got karma.
2:10:37
John C Dvorak: Lot of the way I
think highway 40 is lonelier
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than 5050 goes to all these nice
little towns.
2:10:44
Adam Curry: Well, when's the
last time you did it?
2:10:49
John C Dvorak: When I was a
little kid now there you go.
2:10:51
Adam Curry: Now depends on what
you were like at the time. I
2:10:54
wanted to thank before we move
on, you know, Field Day was this
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past weekend, that's when all
the hams go out and make sure
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that they can make some contacts
work some other stations on
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battery power. You know, it's
really for em comms emergency so
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that we all keep in practice,
and my phone rang. And I love
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this. My phone rang from an
Austin number of 512 number. And
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I'm like, Wow, this was this and
I picked it up and said yes,
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hello. I have a message from the
70 to 90 traffic net for Adam
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curry kilo five alpha, Charlie,
Charlie. This thing it actually
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works. So you can do this. You
can send a message through your
2:11:37
ham radio and say I want you to
contact someone and they and
2:11:41
they went through the trouble of
finding a phone number for me.
2:11:43
They found a phone number and
passed on the message from
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Juliet kilo Tango to zero in the
morning on field day from
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Central New York. 7290s
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John C Dvorak: you got for your
phone? Yeah. Yeah, the hams are
2:11:58
very resourceful. I like the
hams. I
2:12:00
Adam Curry: love the ham 70
threes to all you hams and thank
2:12:04
you all very much to our
executive and Associate
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Executive producers who
supported us once again with
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those forever credits for this
episode 1568 We appreciate a lot
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and anybody can do that. You
just have to go to our website.
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Our formula is this we go out
get people in the mouth
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Unknown: Here's their website
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for.org/n A
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John C Dvorak: There we go.
Nice. Try to get a shady become
2:12:43
a ham.
2:12:45
Adam Curry: Yeah, but she'd be
good ham. She'd be a great ham.
2:12:49
She'd be ham malicious how
Malama dingdong, I gotta play
2:12:52
something here which
corroborates a completely was
2:12:56
something we busted wide open
when I was doing the show from
2:12:59
Jamaica. This is a show when
weeks before anyone else did it.
2:13:04
We pulled apart the fake
interview. A fake zoom call was
2:13:08
a real zoom call but it was a
fake Zelinsky with Fifi Lagarde
2:13:11
you remember Christine Lagarde
jacked up Oh, who presents a
2:13:16
Lensky I'm so happy you're
zooming it was two jokers from
2:13:19
Russia. Who we love those guys.
Those guys are the best. And she
2:13:25
was talking about Yeah, in
October we're gonna have the
2:13:28
central bank digital currency.
We'll get it all set up. You
2:13:32
know, we we know exactly how
we're gonna do it. We've got the
2:13:36
levels all set and we're gonna
go we're gonna rock it's gonna
2:13:38
happen. Well, wouldn't you know?
Yesterday, this announcement
2:13:43
came out in the EU Deutsche
Bella reports
2:13:46
Unknown: European Commission
published a proposal on
2:13:48
Wednesday that would introduce
digital legal tender, tender for
2:13:52
use was in the 20 member
Eurozone. The digital euro is
2:13:56
meant to be used alongside the
existing euro as an additional
2:13:59
form of online payment and
cannot be converted into cash.
2:14:03
Unlike cryptocurrencies, it will
have the backing of the European
2:14:07
Central Bank Commissioner for
financial stability. Mairead
2:14:12
McGinnis cited several reasons
for the move to a digital
2:14:16
tender. One is that the
declining use of cash but
2:14:19
there's also a concern that
other nations will dominate the
2:14:22
digital economy as the EU
doesn't take action. So far,
2:14:25
Nigeria, Jamaica and several
other Caribbean nations have
2:14:28
fully launched centrally backed
digital currencies. Another 53
2:14:32
countries are in the advanced
stages of a rollout including
2:14:37
China, India, Japan, and Brazil.
Let's get more of this from DW
2:14:44
correspondence.
2:14:46
Adam Curry: Did you want to say
something John?
2:14:48
John C Dvorak: Yeah, what was it
like two or three years ago that
2:14:51
India went all digital? It was a
big deal. Hmm, I don't theory me
2:14:57
gotta remember that.
2:14:58
Adam Curry: Remember, they took
away a whole bunch Your money
2:15:00
they made new money I remember
they took away banknotes I don't
2:15:05
think they went all digital they
can't call digital but the
2:15:07
country is filled with portal I
2:15:09
John C Dvorak: realize it is
impossible but I thought that
2:15:11
they made an effort to know
ready like years ago
2:15:15
Adam Curry: who cares This is
the EU I'm going there on
2:15:18
vacation this is gonna be fun
2:15:20
Unknown: this from DW
correspondents band he got and
2:15:24
Brussels band Good to see you
tell us more mod why EU
2:15:30
regulators feel this digital
euro is actually necessary
2:15:35
Adam Curry: this is gonna happen
2:15:37
Unknown: the EU Commission as it
wants to be part of the game
2:15:42
that it is necessary to have
2:15:44
Adam Curry: the game it's the
game part of the game, the game
2:15:47
map game the game the digital
game the game to scam people to
2:15:51
print up money digitally and
then get all your next stimulus
2:15:55
Chuck will come through your CBD
shoe but listen, this is what
2:15:58
they want to do everywhere this
is the central bank mantra like
2:16:02
this is happening this is
happening in Europe mission
2:16:05
Unknown: as infants to be part
of the game it fields that it is
2:16:10
necessary to have also a digital
branch of the Euro which is the
2:16:14
second biggest currency in the
world and they want to fulfill
2:16:19
the wishes of consumers there
was a survey and consumer say
2:16:22
yes we want that we want it and
it also grants some kind of
2:16:26
independence from payment
systems like MasterCard or Visa
2:16:30
which are all seated in the
United States All right,
2:16:34
you're paying with Euro I'm
paying with euros what are the
2:16:37
practical benefits for consumers
like you and me and other people
2:16:41
within the Euro zone of this
digital Europe
2:16:45
paying with the Euro the digital
Euro shall be possible without
2:16:50
paying any fees it would work
like cash in your pocket so you
2:16:54
don't need the middlemen the
payment systems anymore it would
2:16:59
be safe because the value is
guaranteed by the European
2:17:03
Central Bank directly and
payments from one smart wallet
2:17:09
to another smart smart wallet
smart wallet out any online
2:17:13
connection so you don't need all
the technical stuff anymore.
2:17:19
Great say this digital Euro can
be more easily tracked can be
2:17:23
used for surveillance. What do
advocates of this digital Euro
2:17:27
say about that?
2:17:30
Well they say the opposite is
true because the digital Euro
2:17:34
works like cash you don't have
so much data involved as if you
2:17:40
pay with MasterCard or Visa
because there's no name involves
2:17:43
there is no account involved for
you're not leaving much traces
2:17:48
and that's why the amount of
digital digital years you can
2:17:52
have in your smart wallet is
limited actually to 3000 years
2:17:56
to avoid something some abuse
and also money laundering it's
2:18:02
exactly
2:18:03
Adam Curry: what Lagarde said
limit to 3000 euros everything
2:18:06
she said about the tracking I
liked the it's the digital euro
2:18:10
but you don't need any technical
stuff I liked that part a lot
2:18:14
yeah, that's
2:18:14
John C Dvorak: gonna work what's
gonna work is that there's going
2:18:17
to be so much counterfeit money
because now you don't really
2:18:21
have to print the money the
counterfeit money goes on the
2:18:23
card directly
2:18:24
Adam Curry: that's the point the
central bank Ah, you're
2:18:27
John C Dvorak: right you should
go to Europe get you know fine.
2:18:29
It's one of our guys we get
plenty of them. That is in the
2:18:33
middle there some gray market
market here and you know Spence
2:18:37
spent some money in France.
2:18:39
Adam Curry: Now you're missing
my point the the fraudulent
2:18:41
money will be printed by the
central bank. This is what this
2:18:44
is the only way
2:18:45
John C Dvorak: to do it. Anyone
can do it. I think you know, you
2:18:47
can also get your own fraudulent
money. No, this is not going to
2:18:51
work.
2:18:52
Adam Curry: If this is going to
work exactly the way they
2:18:54
intended. What I love the most
about this topic is your
2:18:57
constant saying is not going to
work. They are going to do this.
2:19:01
It's going to be beautiful.
They're going to they're going
2:19:05
to create so much phony baloney
money on this this central bank
2:19:09
backed currency. It's going to
be great. It's gonna be so fun
2:19:14
to watch.
2:19:14
John C Dvorak: If you like
economic collapse. Yeah, you're
2:19:16
probably right. What do you
think that's great. What do
2:19:19
Adam Curry: you think they're
trying to do? This is the whole
2:19:22
point. They want economic
collapse. They want total
2:19:26
control of their citizens. Oh,
man, where you been during COVID
2:19:33
This is what they want. They
want obedient, obedient
2:19:36
citizens. Take your money on
this card and Shut Up Show me
2:19:40
your QR code to get into the bar
I promise you. Now, I hope it
2:19:47
doesn't happen here. But man
they want it. They want
2:19:51
John C Dvorak: to they can want
anything they want. Good luck.
2:19:56
Adam Curry: Good luck. Well,
we'll see you in October, won't
2:19:58
we? We'll see and I'm not
2:20:01
John C Dvorak: saying they won't
roll something out doesn't mean
2:20:03
it's gonna go anywhere.
2:20:05
Adam Curry: Okay? Go back to
Putin. All right.
2:20:09
John C Dvorak: The reason I want
to go back to Putin because CBS
2:20:12
ran a hit piece. And CBS Of
course, we know is a front for
2:20:17
the
2:20:18
Adam Curry: well let's before
you get into your clips, I would
2:20:21
say the entire point of to the
operation that took place just
2:20:26
to review from the last episode.
One is to set up the the
2:20:31
terrorist attack on the nuclear
plant. So we can invoke Article
2:20:34
Five of NATO. That's what
Blumenthal and Graham literally
2:20:38
announced, to, to do what the
CIA has always been good at is
2:20:44
to make a leader look weak
internally, and then try and
2:20:48
start a coup get everybody all
jacked up. They usually do it
2:20:51
with NGOs, Putin, kick them out.
So now we have the CIA
2:20:55
broadcasting systems who I'm
sure are going to compound the
2:21:00
messaging about Putin being
weak.
2:21:02
John C Dvorak: Yeah, I figured
that this was the reason I
2:21:04
wanted that fed. There's a
reason I wanted these clips
2:21:06
because they have to be this is
a messaging operation. Yeah. And
2:21:10
information. This is the show
from yesterday, and there was
2:21:14
absolutely nothing on the show
except this
2:21:19
Unknown: war in Ukraine and new
fallout from that failed armed
2:21:21
rebellion led by the leader of
Russia's private army. There are
2:21:25
questions tonight about whether
the oligarch who leads the
2:21:28
Wagner mercenary group had
support from the for his revolt
2:21:32
from inside the Russian
military. Z and Li reports from
2:21:36
Keith. The images
2:21:37
shocked the world Wagner troops
advancing toward Moscow before
2:21:41
turning around, but questions
remain surrounding the mercenary
2:21:45
boss Yevgeni precautions failed
mutiny. CBS News has learned the
2:21:49
US has intelligence that a
senior Russian general had
2:21:52
advanced knowledge of the
mutiny. The Kremlin says these
2:21:56
allegations are speculation and
gossip. And keep today Ukraine's
2:22:00
national security chief Alexei
Journalof claimed precaution
2:22:04
wasn't leaked with not one but
14 senior Russian military
2:22:08
officers. Goshen is not an
independent person he tells me
2:22:12
Lucky is owned by high ranking
people in President Putin's
2:22:16
inner circle. So promotion does
have support in the of the
2:22:20
Russian military, who in the
last night, they are his owners.
2:22:24
He says this is a group of
people who have a goal to change
2:22:27
the leadership of Russia how
many analysts say President
2:22:31
Putin has been weakened by this
revolt?
2:22:33
Adam Curry: Wow, this is good. I
didn't even see this one coming.
2:22:37
So we know that obviously, the
Wagner group which has been the
2:22:40
sole focus of attention of
anything in the in the field on
2:22:44
Russia, not Russian troops, not
Russian war, war machines. No,
2:22:49
it's all been Wagner group,
private military company wagon
2:22:52
group. And they're obviously on
the CIA play a role. But now
2:22:56
that they add a little twist to
it by saying, Oh, no, no, no,
2:23:01
it's people inside Russia who
have this guy in his pocket.
2:23:04
He's not Putin chef anymore.
This is the it's the people
2:23:09
around Putin they want to bring
him down
2:23:12
John C Dvorak: Can you believe
this? I can believe they
2:23:15
Adam Curry: said I can't believe
we didn't predict this one.
2:23:17
That's what I can't believe
2:23:19
John C Dvorak: actually is
predictable. Not looking back.
2:23:21
Yes. But to come up with this
cock and bull story great. And
2:23:26
then that haven't come out of
the secure the head of the CIA
2:23:30
of Ukraine. Whoever that guy is.
Never heard of him. Great. And I
2:23:33
love the comes up with his
bullshit. It's like, oh my god.
2:23:37
This is it is great. I agree.
It's great. And it's amazing
2:23:41
that you're right, we should
have come up with the sociales
2:23:43
but here we go with part two of
the same basic Clip mode Tech
2:23:46
Show.
2:23:47
Unknown: Even if we execute the
generals who had some sort on
2:23:49
part in the mutiny exists you're
not affect the outcome. He tells
2:23:52
me the wheels are in motion
pools demise. The crisis at the
2:23:57
top and Russia has so far not
trickled down to the battlefield
2:24:01
or yesterday to Russian missiles
destroyed a pizza restaurant
2:24:04
during the evening rush. At
least 11 people were killed in
2:24:08
the attack, including 14 year
old twins, while dozens more
2:24:12
were injured. So night to Nora,
President Solinsky announced the
2:24:16
detention of a person he says
coordinated the attack, adding
2:24:20
anybody who helps the Russians
destroy life deserves the
2:24:23
maximum punishment.
2:24:25
Adam Curry: I really liked the
twins edition, including 14 year
2:24:28
old twins.
2:24:29
John C Dvorak: Yeah, they show
him they have a little picture.
2:24:31
The two of them. They're cute.
And you gotta make sure
2:24:36
Adam Curry: incubators, throw
the incubators. Throw the babies
2:24:39
on the floor. Yeah, exactly.
Well, so
2:24:43
John C Dvorak: you built it. You
built the eye and we see the two
2:24:45
girls and the propaganda pieces.
Very good. Well, the
2:24:50
Adam Curry: message. The message
is out everywhere I have I have
2:24:53
some other examples of the exact
same message maybe not with the
2:24:57
Putin's guys on the inside.
We're funding yet. But here's
2:25:03
NBC
2:25:04
Unknown: now overseas to Russia
where today President Putin
2:25:06
speaking on following that
failed mutiny. Keir Simmons is
2:25:09
with me from Moscow failed
2:25:11
Adam Curry: mutiny. I like
mutiny. Now this is the honest
2:25:14
Iran a shadow ship here.
2:25:16
Unknown: President Putin is now
saying Russia averted a civil
2:25:19
war. Civil War.
2:25:21
That's right next door and
tonight the Kremlin's message to
2:25:24
this country. President Putin is
in control. Russia's leader
2:25:27
praising security officials and
his National Guard for saving
2:25:31
the motherland from catastrophe.
Rebellion leader Vagner group
2:25:35
commander of getting precaution
is now in better rooms according
2:25:38
to reports there. But Goshen
forces took over a Russian
2:25:41
military headquarters and were
marching towards Moscow when the
2:25:44
deal was apparently cut Putin
today criticizing Bogosian
2:25:48
saying in a year he paid his
former ally $2 billion dollars.
2:25:53
Russia announcing it won't
prosecute the mutineers. Okay,
2:25:57
so
2:25:58
Adam Curry: really just sowing
confusion there MBCA
2:26:00
John C Dvorak: Nair and the
mutineer which is okay, and then
2:26:05
civil war here, we get all these
crazy things going on.
2:26:07
Adam Curry: Why do you think
they threw in mutiny? What is
2:26:10
the point of that? It's it
2:26:12
John C Dvorak: is because the
public understands what it
2:26:13
means. Yeah. All right, because
you're you're part of the
2:26:17
system. And you you mutiny
because immunity also because of
2:26:22
the movies like Mutiny on the
Bounty and all these, it
2:26:25
indicates you have a guy that's
running the ship that's out of
2:26:29
control. And he has got to go
Caine Mutiny, Mutiny on the
2:26:34
Bounty? These are where the
captain is nuts.
2:26:36
Adam Curry: I think you're
right. Good point. So let's
2:26:37
associative. Let's listen to
Good Morning America,
2:26:40
Unknown: President delinski It
sounded the alarm by Russia
2:26:42
taking steps to potentially
sabotage a nuclear facility in
2:26:46
Ukraine. Yeah. Could you do
that?
2:26:48
Adam Curry: They could Russia do
that. But
2:26:50
Unknown: Michael, they have the
means they may not have the
2:26:53
motive yet. So they certainly
have an engineering capability.
2:26:56
They've held this power plant
for a long time. What they may
2:26:59
be doing is wiring the plant to
create a nuclear incident.
2:27:02
Adam Curry: You're they're
wiring the plant? Oh, yes.
2:27:05
They've Oh, they're wiring it.
Just like the World Trade
2:27:08
Center.
2:27:08
Unknown: And it would be
something that Putin would keep
2:27:10
in his pocket if there was some
sort of catastrophic Ukrainian
2:27:13
breakthrough in
2:27:14
Adam Curry: the front lines. Or
if there's a breakthrough on the
2:27:16
front lines, and I pushed the
button, perhaps he could blow up
2:27:19
this power
2:27:19
Unknown: plant. But
interestingly, if you look at
2:27:21
the prevailing winds, if the
Russians did that, most of the
2:27:24
year they blow either towards
the east or towards the south.
2:27:28
So that Fallout would
theoretically come right back on
2:27:31
to Russian troops, and
potentially Crimea.
2:27:33
Adam Curry: Oh, this is an
interesting little bit here. We
2:27:36
need to have the wind we need to
change the wind direction
2:27:40
because if it doesn't waft over
Poland, fly in new if it doesn't
2:27:45
waft over Poland, then we can
invoke Article Five it needs we
2:27:49
have to have the wind in the
right direction. Let's continue
2:27:52
with Steve Gagnon and Secretary
2:27:55
Unknown: of State Blinken said
on this week that that real
2:27:57
cracks are emerging in Russia's
leadership is Putin's power.
2:28:03
It certainly is for the first
time in 24 years, but remember
2:28:06
that sometimes cracks and
foundations and buildings
2:28:11
Adam Curry: for the first time
in Tibet 24 years.
2:28:14
Unknown: It certainly is for the
first time in 24 years. But
2:28:17
remember that sometimes crowns
and foundations of buildings,
2:28:21
they can cause catastrophic,
immediate effect, or they can go
2:28:24
on for years or maybe never. So
we need to see how this plays
2:28:27
out. And I think that every hour
that we don't see Putin will be
2:28:31
adding to that intrigue, but I
think it's important, Michael
2:28:33
here to think about what this
was and what it wasn't. It was
2:28:36
not a coup attempt. It was not
an insurrection, there was no
2:28:39
popular support. This was a
mercenary army muting, and
2:28:43
proposed wall
2:28:45
Adam Curry: mutiny. That's the
talking point, John, it's the
2:28:47
talking point.
2:28:48
John C Dvorak: It is and looks
for everybody. But CBS who's got
2:28:51
their own This is ABC,
2:28:53
Adam Curry: NBC, they've got the
mutiny. Mean, Goshen
2:28:55
Unknown: felt the walls closing
in around him, he hatched a plan
2:28:59
to save himself in his men. It
was brilliant. He really,
2:29:03
headquarters
2:29:04
military, was brilliant.
2:29:08
John C Dvorak: Bull on his
second history of this operation
2:29:11
is really their bunch of, I
don't know, they're mercenaries
2:29:15
that go to Africa to steal gold.
That's their main goal. Why
2:29:21
don't they just pack up and go
back to Africa? Where they've
2:29:25
been doing business forever? No.
As opposed to this bullcrap.
2:29:30
Adam Curry: Well, maybe because
it's all bull crap closing in
2:29:33
Unknown: around him. He hatched
a plan to save himself and his
2:29:37
men. It was brilliant. He walked
into this headquarters as
2:29:41
military headquarters in the
south, essentially put his feet
2:29:43
up on the desk says I control
this place. Send an armored
2:29:46
column up to the north depressor
Putin called Putin with the
2:29:51
phones, recording the whole
thing controlling social media.
2:29:56
John C Dvorak: Are they just
making this up as they go along?
2:29:59
Totally. He put his feet up on
the desk and called Putin on the
2:30:03
secure line to Riyadh office
2:30:04
Adam Curry: and recorded it and
recorded it and recorded Let's
2:30:08
send an
2:30:08
Unknown: armored column up to
the north depressor Putin
2:30:11
threshold Putin with the phones,
recording the whole thing
2:30:15
controlling social media so
Putin can control the narrative.
2:30:19
And he said let's negotiate. And
Putin was unable to call his
2:30:22
bluff and he totally collapsed.
It was totally humiliating for
2:30:26
Putin and Prigogine pulled it
all off brilliantly.
2:30:30
Adam Curry: I didn't clip it
because it was Hold on
2:30:32
John C Dvorak: a second Wait,
how is he pulling this off
2:30:35
beautifully when he's exiled to
Belarus of all places because he
2:30:41
puts pressure pulling off
anything and you're lucky to be
2:30:43
alive he can be assassinated at
any point now
2:30:46
Adam Curry: he put pressure on
Putin pressure what you're
2:30:51
asking me about this phony op
you're asking me to explain it
2:30:54
to you. This Yeah, this is a
media war. This is all bowl
2:30:58
bowl. mean, half the half the
media was saying, Oh, look,
2:31:03
everybody was happy to see
promotion. The other half was
2:31:05
saying they weren't they were
like kicking him out. This whole
2:31:09
thing is it's very
2:31:11
John C Dvorak: poorly
orchestrated. Whoever's behind
2:31:14
it.
2:31:14
Adam Curry: France 20 US, France
24 hole
2:31:17
John C Dvorak: Yeah, no, I'm
saying but there's obviously a
2:31:19
head of the operation is he did
fine with CBS. That's a great
2:31:23
report. No, but these other
things from ABC they got they.
2:31:29
Adam Curry: They're freewheeling
the freewheeling. They don't
2:31:31
have they had a meeting. What do
we call this mutiny? Okay, okay.
2:31:36
Both good. Yes, to
2:31:37
John C Dvorak: get the one
talking and playing go from
2:31:39
there boys. You can make it up
as good as anyone is France 24.
2:31:43
Unknown: The revolts may have
been short lived, but it's
2:31:46
chipped away at FL notice the
music Vladimir Putin's stone
2:31:50
faced facade. The Wagner group's
failed uprising was slammed as
2:31:54
treason by the Kremlin. Birth it
was the biggest threat is
2:31:58
authority that Putin has faced
in his two decades in power. For
2:32:02
those watching from abroad, it
was a remarkable slip for Russia
2:32:06
strong man.
2:32:08
16 months ago, Russian forces
were on the doorstep of keys in
2:32:13
Ukraine. This is Blinken
believing they would take the
2:32:16
capital in a matter of days and
erase the country from from the
2:32:19
map as an independent country.
Now, what we've seen is
2:32:23
Adam Curry: Whoa, whoa, left
tail, left toe, left tail I
2:32:27
believe
2:32:27
Unknown: they would take the
capital in a matter of days and
2:32:30
erase the country from from the
map as an independent country.
2:32:33
Now what we've seen
2:32:37
John C Dvorak: Yeah, left till
right in there,
2:32:39
Adam Curry: because he knows
what he's saying, Oh, they would
2:32:40
erase the country from the map.
It's simply not true. The reason
2:32:45
he pulled out is because they
had a peace deal. They had a
2:32:48
peace deal, which Boris Johnson
then went into Oh, no, no son.
2:32:53
No Minsk agreement for you. We
need war here. So he knows it's
2:32:57
not true. And he's laughing
about
2:33:01
Unknown: believing they would
take the capital in a matter of
2:33:03
days and erase the country from
from the map as an independent
2:33:06
country. Now, what we've seen is
Russia having to defend Moscow,
2:33:12
his case catch against
mercenaries of his own making.
2:33:15
Ukraine's allies have been
monitoring the situation
2:33:18
closely. French President
Emmanuel Macron said the Wagner
2:33:21
group march on Moscow shows the
divisions that exist within the
2:33:24
Russian camp.
2:33:26
Adam Curry: There's so much
alliteration march on Moscow
2:33:28
pressure on Putin, I love it
2:33:30
Unknown: on the fragility of
both its military and its
2:33:33
auxilary forces. Ukrainian
president Solinsky has discussed
2:33:38
the turmoil across the border
with Poland, Canada and US
2:33:41
President Joe Biden. But for
now, he's holding his cards
2:33:45
close to his chest. Now,
2:33:47
the longer Russian aggression
lasts, the more degradation it
2:33:51
causes in Russia itself. This
manifests itself as aggression,
2:33:55
which is gradually turning
inwards and coming home to
2:33:58
roost. So for both my
conversations with my fellow
2:34:01
leaders, we exchanged our
assessment of what is happening
2:34:04
in Russia, we see the situation
the same way and know how to
2:34:08
respond.
2:34:09
Adam Curry: You know, there's
something to be said for this
2:34:11
tactic. With the media being so
widespread the way it is today,
2:34:18
if you just keep saying it,
Putin is weak Putin weak
2:34:20
pressure mute, Delia. I mean,
the people inside Russia will
2:34:24
start to,
2:34:25
John C Dvorak: I don't know,
just wave the word. People
2:34:28
inside Russia been cut off, but
they
2:34:30
Adam Curry: got to they got
YouTube and tick tock. They're
2:34:34
posting on YouTube. Yes, of
course, we need to YouTube is
2:34:39
open for Russia
2:34:40
John C Dvorak: believe Well,
believe it would. It would have
2:34:44
been over for Putin. If the NGOs
were still around. I agree. And
2:34:49
the media was a little looser.
They probably would have gotten
2:34:53
him out by now. But he's he's
done a really amazing job of
2:34:57
staying in power. And I don't
know if They're going to this is
2:35:01
gonna work. I mean, I know that
they love to get rid of him. I'm
2:35:04
not sure what they want,
2:35:05
Adam Curry: but this is what I'm
what I'm worried about is that
2:35:09
they, you know, they being US
trip, trip trip off some, some
2:35:14
charges at the nuclear power
plant which they do have to wait
2:35:17
for the winds of change. Make
sure the winds go on the right
2:35:20
way. Otherwise it doesn't count
2:35:22
John C Dvorak: why they can have
trouble with that because you
2:35:24
can't read while they have
weather machines that can do
2:35:26
this. Maybe they do. But
2:35:31
Adam Curry: in the meantime,
know the co chairs of the EU
2:35:36
Ukraine recovery conference in
London 2023 have made a joint
2:35:40
statement, which I'd like to
read a little bit is what
2:35:45
they've agreed to so we
understand what's at stake here.
2:35:48
Ukraine's partners have agreed
to provide a further 60 billion
2:35:51
to meet the recovery and
reconstruction needs of Ukraine.
2:35:54
The EU announced a new multi
year facility of 50 billion for
2:35:57
recovery, the US announced 1.3
billion in additional aid to
2:36:01
Ukraine, including 675 million
to modernize Ukraine's critical
2:36:06
infrastructure. I didn't know
about that. The UK announced a
2:36:10
further 3 billion and guarantees
to support additional world bank
2:36:14
lending up to 2027 to one and 40
million support for immediate
2:36:18
needs. That's the landscape coke
habit. Switzerland announced the
2:36:22
further 1.5 Swiss francs to
support up to 2027. But here,
2:36:27
nearly 500 global businesses
from 42 countries worth more
2:36:31
than $5.2 trillion and 21
sectors have already signed the
2:36:35
Ukraine business compact,
pledging to support Ukraine's
2:36:40
recovery and reconstruction. And
to make sure that everything
2:36:45
goes okay. The Government of
Ukraine and its partners are
2:36:48
responding to business demand to
extend commercial insurance
2:36:51
coverage in Ukraine. The
conference launched the London
2:36:55
conference war risk insurance
framework, which means you have
2:37:00
no risk for your money. The
taxpayers of all these other
2:37:04
countries will pay in case your
money gets blown up. Funding Oh,
2:37:11
that's not on the news.
2:37:13
John C Dvorak: Oh, there's the
duck gotta be on the news.
2:37:17
Adam Curry: And you know, and I
love seeing Kyiv ne Kieve. Eve,
2:37:24
you know, what is your
impression that keep keeps under
2:37:26
constant attack? And like it was
being blown up?
2:37:31
John C Dvorak: was a big city.
Yeah. And there's a missile that
2:37:34
hits it about once a week. Yeah.
And it the missile costs x
2:37:39
amount of money, and it's
killing maybe five to 10 people
2:37:42
that live in his last time. And
so it's a very expensive process
2:37:47
to kill the people. And I don't
even know that this is a
2:37:51
missile. I mean, we you don't
know. I mean, this whole thing
2:37:54
is such a scam. But I keep
seeing not under bombardment and
2:37:58
there's no swarms of drones
hitting key the hitting the
2:38:01
country, the areas around the
Donbass mostly. Yeah. Like you
2:38:06
say, usually some missile goes
into Kyiv.
2:38:09
Adam Curry: They have no they
have like three electric
2:38:11
electric scooter companies, just
like New York or wherever. I get
2:38:16
these electric scooters
everywhere riding around.
2:38:18
Everyone's having a good time.
2:38:21
John C Dvorak: It says, yeah,
when they show the reports that
2:38:23
guys are in Kyiv. There seemed
to be what now let's having a
2:38:26
good time. Now it doesn't look
like it's listening to this. I
2:38:29
look like Sudan or Somalia.
That's for sure.
2:38:32
Adam Curry: The United States on
Tuesday impose sanctions aimed
2:38:35
at disrupting gold mining
activities that fund the Wagner
2:38:38
group in Africa, vowing to hold
the mercenaries accountable for
2:38:42
abuses days after they staged a
mutiny in Russia. The measures
2:38:49
against the Wagner group had
been previously panned but were
2:38:51
briefly put on hold as US
officials sought to avoid
2:38:56
appearing to favor aside in the
power struggle. So now they're
2:39:00
going after Africa's gold. They
call it sanctions. But now you
2:39:06
know where that gold is gonna
wind up? Yeah,
2:39:09
John C Dvorak: not an hour not
not where it belongs.
2:39:11
Adam Curry: Not in Africa. It's
so the world is so crazy. It's
2:39:18
just crazy. You know, I should
have played this clip earlier. I
2:39:22
finally found it.
2:39:23
Unknown: We're back with the
investigation into the gruesome
2:39:25
death of an airport ground crew
worker in Texas. The NTSB says a
2:39:29
baggage handler in San Antonio's
airport died after being
2:39:33
ingested into the engine of a
Delta plane Friday the jet was
2:39:36
taxiing after arriving from LA a
similar incident happened in
2:39:40
late December when a ramp agent
at the airport in Montgomery,
2:39:43
Alabama died after being pulled
into a plane's engine, the
2:39:46
American Airlines subsidiary
involved with recently find
2:39:49
after investigators found a lack
of communication and effective
2:39:53
training.
2:39:54
Adam Curry: I'm telling you, I
love this new thing. You're
2:39:57
John C Dvorak: thinking is that
because of these two Pre events
2:40:01
that could be Hunter Biden's
fate.
2:40:04
Adam Curry: It would be perfect
he's always riding private jets
2:40:07
his buddies private jet it's
just just a feeling I have.
2:40:14
Yeah. I need to well first of
all, we got to another great
2:40:20
note on the on the phone phony
baloney chicken, which you said
2:40:28
John C Dvorak: the latest note
you have it? I do. You said you
2:40:31
were gonna I was gonna fact that
was saying dibs on reading it.
2:40:36
But you can read it because you
read the first because I have it
2:40:39
right here. Great note.
2:40:41
Adam Curry: So again, this is
how the how the chicken is made
2:40:45
in the needs a culture needs a
2:40:48
John C Dvorak: niche. You don't
make chicken out of thin air
2:40:50
that was with this phony
chicken. It has to be fed a
2:40:53
nutrient. And so the nutrient it
turns out is well here's the
2:40:59
note that explains it in great
detail.
2:41:01
Adam Curry: FBS fetal bovine
serum or fetal calf serum.
2:41:06
Unbeknownst to most is made as
follows. In an abattoir slash
2:41:10
slaughterhouse, when pregnant
cows are slaughtered, they cut
2:41:14
out the dead fetus, or calf
drain all of its blood, spin it
2:41:18
down a big centrifuge, and
you're left with the solids and
2:41:21
the serum. We filter a bottle
the serum and as this is used
2:41:26
for the cell culture of chicken.
This is fantastic. It's so good,
2:41:34
right? It's so good. I can't
wait. Mmm. But anyway.
2:41:39
John C Dvorak: So the guy goes
on to mention that, I wonder how
2:41:42
many vegans know of
2:41:44
Adam Curry: this? Vegans don't
know anything. So no, no. And
2:41:48
now what's really is that what's
really kicking off now is this
2:41:53
semaglutide are known as ozempic
would go V etc.
2:41:58
John C Dvorak: Yeah, and now
they're bringing out the pill
2:42:00
version, which
2:42:01
Adam Curry: no, it's it's not
just the pill version. It's the
2:42:06
race to create the pill version.
2:42:09
Unknown: I thought the pill
version was released, we have
2:42:11
seven
2:42:12
myths. Today, a closer look at
the ways to create an approved
2:42:16
weight loss pill that
2:42:17
was epic and will go be both
wildly popular for helping
2:42:20
people shed pounds quickly. They
require an injection though,
2:42:23
however, there could be an
option soon for those same drugs
2:42:26
and others without any shot.
2:42:28
Adam Curry: By the way. This is
a native ad in case you hadn't
2:42:30
guessed, and it'll
2:42:31
Unknown: likely mean lower costs
too. So here with what you need
2:42:34
to know is Dr. Roshini Raj and
associate professor of medicine
2:42:38
at NYU Langone Health. Dr. Raj.
Good morning. This is kind of a
2:42:42
big deal. A lot of people would
shy away from an injectable, but
2:42:45
maybe a pill they'd say yes to
what do you think we're gonna
2:42:48
get? I mean, it's 100%. easier
when you think about the fact
2:42:53
that the majority of Americans
are overweight or obese, we're
2:42:56
talking about,
2:42:57
Adam Curry: did you know that?
They're bringing out all these
2:43:01
associate professors who
associate professor, associate
2:43:05
professor, and she says, first
of all, she has 100 fat. And
2:43:08
then she says most Americans are
overweight or obese. Really? I
2:43:13
don't know. Is that true? Most
Americans right
2:43:17
John C Dvorak: away number 60%.
So that would be most dubious.
2:43:22
Adam Curry: Yes. All right. And
I want you to hear the talking
2:43:24
points. And we'll discuss later.
2:43:25
Unknown: I mean, it's a game
changer. When you think about
2:43:27
the fact that the majority of
Americans are overweight or
2:43:30
obese. We're talking about a
huge market here. And as you
2:43:33
said, the injections themselves
have been wildly popular, but
2:43:36
there many people who are either
needle phobic so they really
2:43:39
can't stand needles, or they
just wouldn't much prefer a
2:43:41
pill. So now we're going to be
opening up access to many more
2:43:44
people.
2:43:44
Would that pill be like an
everyday kind of pill that you
2:43:47
take? Yes,
2:43:47
so different drug companies are
working on pill forms, most of
2:43:50
them are once a day, one of them
is twice a day. So it is
2:43:53
something you will be taking
every day for sure. She wrote
2:43:55
cheaper than the injection. Yes,
it is actually, generally
2:43:58
speaking for medications much
cheaper to do an oral medication
2:44:01
as opposed to an injection. Many
injections have to be stored at
2:44:04
cold temperatures, just putting
it in the pen itself. All of
2:44:07
that is an expense where with
the pill, it should be
2:44:09
significantly cheaper.
2:44:11
Like needles either. Yeah,
whenever there's like a magic
2:44:14
pill, it sounds amazing. And
you've been struggling to lose
2:44:17
weight. But always on the other
side of that coin. There's stuff
2:44:20
that can go wrong. So what's the
downside to this? Yeah,
2:44:23
well, well, we talked about the
small side effects of the pill
2:44:25
versus the injection, it looks
like they're the same. So
2:44:28
nausea, vomiting, constipation,
diarrhea, probably the same
2:44:31
percentage and a failure, you
know, between people will have
2:44:35
significant side effects to the
point where they need to stop.
2:44:37
But then in terms of the long
term consequences, you know, we
2:44:40
really don't know when it's I
don't know, that has been
2:44:43
studied for for weight loss, you
know, this whole idea of slowing
2:44:46
down the emptying of the stomach
to make you feel full longer.
2:44:49
That's part of how these drugs
work. What are the long term
2:44:52
implications of that? And I just
want to point out the studies
2:44:55
really have looked at people who
were obese or significantly
2:44:58
overweight with a weight related
good condition. This has not
2:45:01
been studied on people who want
to lose 10 pounds before their
2:45:04
wedding in a month you know so
the fact that the pills
2:45:07
especially are going to open it
up to so many more people we're
2:45:10
also going to see a lot of
people using it for not
2:45:12
necessarily the correct
indicators but
2:45:14
are there any plans to study
that since it's clearly how
2:45:16
people are using
2:45:17
absolutely yes, because people
are using it off label doctors
2:45:20
are prescribing it not
necessarily for those stricter
2:45:23
conditions. We are going to see
more research on that as well.
2:45:25
John C Dvorak: What about a
timeline on these pills? Any
2:45:27
idea how soon we could see these
come to market? Yeah, I don't
2:45:30
know
2:45:31
Unknown: this. I can never say
that we're they're actually
2:45:33
looking for approval later this
year. So that's pretty close.
2:45:36
Some of the other ones are still
doing larger trials. So we won't
2:45:38
see for until next year for the
earliest.
2:45:41
Dr. Raj. We appreciate it.
Thanks so much. Good to see you.
2:45:44
John C Dvorak: Good to see Oh,
so you get a timecode on that I
2:45:47
bet she was right on the money
2:45:50
Adam Curry: 256
2:45:51
John C Dvorak: Yep, pretty much
probably three minutes
2:45:54
Adam Curry: so if you look at
the have the insert the pack of
2:45:57
the package insert here and this
is what I find so disgusting
2:46:00
ever again. I have two more
short reports. Every single
2:46:03
report Oh yeah. You know, little
diarrhea. By the way, they have
2:46:06
diarrhea and constipation, which
is interesting. You're gonna
2:46:09
have both imagine diarrhea,
constipation, nausea, vomiting.
2:46:13
Yeah. But by the way, you know,
so is this for people who just
2:46:17
want to, you know, lose 10
pounds before the class reunion?
2:46:21
Well, that's not really how you
should use it. But yeah, that's
2:46:23
how we want you to use it. What
is
2:46:27
John C Dvorak: what they keep
saying it? Of course, this is a
2:46:29
class reunion coming up, you
know, lose some weight, don't go
2:46:32
good. There is a fat so
2:46:33
Adam Curry: here we go from the
Insert sent to us by the no
2:46:36
agenda and this stasis what is
the most important information I
2:46:38
should know about ozempic
ozempic may cause serious side
2:46:41
effects, including what did you
just hear? What are the serious
2:46:44
side effects,
2:46:45
John C Dvorak: constipation,
stomach ache, nausea, maybe
2:46:50
right? Nothing much.
2:46:51
Adam Curry: According to the
packaging insert it says
2:46:54
possible thyroid tumors
including cancer. Tell your
2:46:57
health care provider if you get
a lump or swelling in your neck,
2:47:00
hoarseness, trouble swallowing
or shortness of breath. These
2:47:03
may be symptoms of thyroid
cancer and studies with rodents
2:47:07
ozempic and medicines that work
like ozempic Cause thyroid
2:47:10
tumors including thyroid cancer,
it is not known if ozempic will
2:47:14
cause thyroid tumors or type of
thyroid cancer called medulla
2:47:17
medullary. thyroid carcinoma and
people
2:47:23
John C Dvorak: can be avoided.
It has to be avoided.
2:47:25
Adam Curry: Here's ABC
2:47:26
Unknown: back now with medical
news, an oral version of the
2:47:28
weight loss drug ozempic is on
the way. That's all thanks to a
2:47:31
new study, researchers have
found the active ingredient and
2:47:34
both ozempic and we'll go V may
be just as effective when taken
2:47:38
as a pill instead of being
injected. Now one doctor called
2:47:42
the development a game changer
but some are warning of more
2:47:45
side effects. The oral drug
likely won't make it to the
2:47:48
market this year.
2:47:49
Adam Curry: Oh but wait, we have
to bring in Dr. Jen.
2:47:52
Unknown: Alright, let's talk
Medical News. Dr. Jan, there's a
2:47:53
brand new study that talked
about a pill version of the
2:47:56
active ingredient in the popular
weight loss drugs but it was
2:47:59
Olympic and we go v v that's
gonna be game changing.
2:48:02
Yeah, sure. Picture now we're
talking about an oral form of
2:48:05
this medication that was FDA
approved for people with type
2:48:08
two diabetes back in 2019. Now
it's being studied just for the
2:48:12
endpoint of weight loss. So
here's what the study found.
2:48:15
They looked at about 600 Plus
adults with a body mass index
2:48:20
greater than 30 they were chosen
randomly they did not I want to
2:48:23
repeat did not have type two
diabetes. In the group that took
2:48:27
this oral semaglutide brand name
rebel says they found a decrease
2:48:31
in their body mass index by 15%
compared to just over 2% in
2:48:36
those who are given placebo,
side effects were mild to
2:48:41
moderate short lived transient
mostly gastrointestinal short,
2:48:45
Adam Curry: live transient
mostly gastrointestinal
2:48:48
Unknown: of nature and of course
we have to remember there is a
2:48:50
pretty significant cost to these
medications if they're not
2:48:53
covered by insurance, but
potentially now that we have
2:48:56
some good data on this oral form
it's possible we could see it
2:49:00
get an FDA approval just for
weight loss and people who are
2:49:04
overweight or obese
2:49:05
Adam Curry: this okay, this is
gonna be great. I can't wait
2:49:08
well first of
2:49:09
John C Dvorak: all, let's stop
these clips and and ask
2:49:12
ourselves why are they playing
these bullshit clips I'm going
2:49:16
to read you something right Bell
says the pill version of ozempic
2:49:22
that is currently on the market
there you go. And made by the
2:49:26
same manufacturer is approved to
cheap to treat Type Two Diabetes
2:49:31
just like ozempic
2:49:33
Adam Curry: which manufacturer
which manufacturer
2:49:35
John C Dvorak: same guys ozempic
makes this is called right Bell
2:49:40
says and you can do the off
label prescription for it. So
2:49:45
what is the point of all these
reports that are bogus there?
2:49:48
There's something else going on
here?
2:49:50
Adam Curry: Are you sure right
Bell says is from Nova nortis.
2:49:54
John C Dvorak: I'm just saying
I'm just reading it. Brian Bell
2:49:57
says is the pill version of
ozempic that is current The
2:50:00
other market and made by the
same manufacturer you look up
2:50:04
right Bell says RYBEL S U S
going to get more details
2:50:11
manufacture
2:50:12
Adam Curry: okay this is
interesting well so it's either
2:50:16
an ad against know you're right
Novo Nordisk announces FDA
2:50:22
approval of label update. Oh
label update. Okay.
2:50:26
John C Dvorak: They already had
it out. It's been out for a
2:50:28
while.
2:50:28
Adam Curry: Well, what is maybe
it's not working right. Why oh,
2:50:31
John C Dvorak: why something
else? There's some other vendor
2:50:34
coming in Pfizer, I'm guessing.
Yeah. Let's see, this is
2:50:37
bullshit. These, everything you
played? Is some part of some
2:50:41
marketing?
2:50:42
Adam Curry: Yes. Well, of
course, we just haven't quite
2:50:45
put our hand how do they get it?
How
2:50:46
John C Dvorak: do they live with
themselves? These people?
2:50:52
Adam Curry: They just look at
their penthouse. They look at
2:50:55
their Rolls Royce. Yeah, I
couldn't live with myself. Let's
2:50:58
finish up with Dr. Jenn.
2:50:59
Unknown: Is there a reason you
would choose the pill or the
2:51:01
injection or the injection over
the to me, it'd be like you Why
2:51:04
would you give yourself a shot?
Well, first
2:51:06
of all frequency of dosage, the
injection, which by the way, is
2:51:09
is not painful. But a lot of
people just don't like the idea
2:51:12
of giving themselves an
injection. It does have to be
2:51:15
refrigerated. It's dosed on a
weekly basis, once a week, this
2:51:19
pill obviously would not be
refrigerated, and it would be
2:51:22
taken every single day. So just
a different route of
2:51:24
administration. I think it's
great. We're seeing more in the
2:51:28
field of obesity medicine for
options for management and
2:51:31
treatment. Again, not for
everyone. But for some people,
2:51:34
this could be significant. Who
said had more options. Thank
2:51:37
you.
2:51:37
Adam Curry: Okay. Here's why.
Right, Bell says has only
2:51:42
received FDA approval for people
with type two diabetes, what
2:51:45
they're talking about here is
the same damn pill with a
2:51:49
different label on it called
ozempic in pill form, and that
2:51:52
that will be b is
2:51:54
John C Dvorak: going to be
ozempic. And pill formers are
2:51:56
going to be a different company.
2:52:00
Adam Curry: The what the slide
show is ozempic They show
2:52:02
ozempic in 2023. Pfizer not
known yet probably 2025. Pfizer,
2:52:09
by the way has not done well
with stage two trials. Of course
2:52:13
not because people are gonna die
from this. Don't take this
2:52:16
people.
2:52:18
John C Dvorak: Yes, just,
2:52:19
Adam Curry: I don't want to give
you medical advice, but I'm just
2:52:21
looking at the insert and it
doesn't look like a good idea to
2:52:25
me. Final from NBC.
2:52:27
Unknown: Also this evening, a
lot of people buzzing about
2:52:30
ozempic Is it a miracle drug for
losing weight? A doctor at
2:52:34
Stanford says yes. Now
2:52:36
Adam Curry: here comes another
Associate Professor and listen
2:52:38
to this. I don't know what this
is why this is from your area,
2:52:42
NBC Bay Area, they do a whole
native ad up there. The real
2:52:46
thing
2:52:47
Unknown: is epics primary use is
to help people with type two
2:52:50
diabetes to regulate their blood
sugar levels. But it's quickly
2:52:53
become the latest craze for
weight loss according to
2:52:56
experts, it can help patients
shed up to 15% of their body
2:53:00
weight within a matter of
months. If you're looking to
2:53:03
drop some pounds, you might be
thinking Sign me up. But there
2:53:06
are some downsides here. Let's
talk about it. The doctors Dan,
2:53:10
as long as
2:53:12
Adam Curry: this is another
native ad that just they're just
2:53:14
going to tell you it's good for
your high school reunion. Some
2:53:17
Unknown: downsides here. Let's
talk about it with us tonight.
2:53:19
Dr. Dan Zagros. Excuse me.
2:53:25
Dr. Thanks for being with us.
Does it really work? And is it
2:53:29
Adam Curry: safe? Does it work?
And is it safe?
2:53:33
Unknown: Yeah, thank you for
having me rush. It works and
2:53:36
it's safe.
2:53:37
Adam Curry: There you go. It
works. It's safe and effective.
2:53:41
Unknown: And is the role of the
FDA is to tell us that and
2:53:47
that's exactly what they've
said.
2:53:48
Adam Curry: Oh, the role of FDA.
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2:53:51
Adam Curry: can't believe what
we're doing to our our fellow
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a day. Have fun in the sun. Mark
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your calendars for Saturday,
August 12. And if you got a boat
3:08:28
bring one but don't forget to
RSVP.
3:08:31
John C Dvorak: That's right. The
beaches are open.
3:08:34
Adam Curry: Today the south
Mississippi testing the turnout
3:08:37
Meetup is taking place at 3/25
street and Laurel Missouri.
3:08:41
That'll be at six o'clock today.
The Mile High rain Dodgers 630
3:08:45
Mountain Lincoln's Roadhouse in
Denver, Colorado, the I must be
3:08:49
high number 12 one year of
meetups that'll be tomorrow
3:08:51
McSorley's wonderful saloon and
Grill in Toronto, Ontario,
3:08:55
Canada. Fort Wayne club 33. No
Oh agenda meet up hills halls
3:09:01
tavern at Coventry in Fort Wayne
Indiana Saturday. Also on
3:09:05
Saturday, the central Ohio meet
up at three o'clock and Garrett
3:09:08
are German beer Garten in
Columbus, Ohio, and the
3:09:12
Riverside on the Fox meetup will
take place on Sunday. Our next
3:09:16
show day at two o'clock at
Riverside pizza and pub in
3:09:19
Batavia, Illinois. These are
just a few of the many no agenda
3:09:22
meetups that are scheduled for
the next few days. But they
3:09:25
really go through months and
months all over the world,
3:09:28
including Zurich, Switzerland on
June July 15. And we still have
3:09:35
the July 9 and conference I'd
like to know where that's being
3:09:39
held and who was taking care of
that and I would like a meet up
3:09:41
report from you guys. No agenda
meetups go to no agenda
3:09:44
meetups.com You need this to
find your community. You will be
3:09:49
loved. You will be you will be
kept safe. Connection is
3:09:54
protection. That's why you need
to go to a no gender meetup no
3:09:57
agenda meetup.com If you can't
find one near us Darwen, you
3:10:00
yourself sometimes you
3:10:01
Unknown: want to go hang out
with all the Dyson days. You'd
3:10:09
be triggered. You want to be a
buddy feels the same. It's like
3:10:18
a
3:10:21
Adam Curry: sure is. Do you have
any ISOs? Oh yes you do. Thank
3:10:25
goodness I'm poor on I'm poor on
ISOs today Yeah, none I've won
3:10:30
one ISO play yours first. Oh
good. It's no good. I'm ashamed.
3:10:33
I'm ashamed that I'm playing
this but here we go. Happy
3:10:36
Pride. I'm ashamed. I'm ashamed
of it is bad. I'm
3:10:39
John C Dvorak: ashamed of it,
run it through the Adobe product
3:10:41
maybe it'll be better.
3:10:43
Adam Curry: No, nothing can fix.
Nothing can fix the admiral.
3:10:47
John C Dvorak: Alright, I got
three. Okay, let's start with
3:10:49
mindless,
3:10:50
Unknown: mindless obedient
soldiers.
3:10:53
Adam Curry: Okay, so Peterson
3:10:55
John C Dvorak: Yeah. No agenda.
3:10:57
Unknown: No has no agenda.
3:11:01
John C Dvorak: Destitute North
Korean woman Yeah. Yeah. She has
3:11:04
this long spiel she gives and
Mimi caught her saying no agenda
3:11:07
at the 33 second, Martin.
3:11:10
Adam Curry: That's yeah, that's
a sign if I ever heard one
3:11:12
John C Dvorak: sums up. And then
last is Thanks, guys. Thanks,
3:11:16
guys. Have a great weekend.
3:11:19
Unknown: Huh? This
3:11:21
John C Dvorak: is the best
because we got the Fourth of
3:11:23
July weekend coming up. Thanks,
guys. Oh,
3:11:27
Adam Curry: yeah, it's not that
clear.
3:11:28
John C Dvorak: But last night
clear. Run it through the note.
3:11:31
What do you
3:11:31
Adam Curry: think I'd have time
to do all this? Do you know how
3:11:33
much work I do? I make it look
easy to vorak. You just sit
3:11:36
there and Grouse in the mic. I
do all the work
3:11:39
John C Dvorak: and my job is but
that's my job. I My job is to
3:11:42
Grouse in the mic. And grousing
is not easy.
3:11:47
Adam Curry: I'll give you that.
It's not easy. All right. We
3:11:50
have we have we have room. We
have time for one more something
3:11:54
or other I'm
3:11:55
John C Dvorak: sure well, I have
why have a two parter. I want to
3:11:57
get out of the way. Okay. And
this is the Germany getting cozy
3:12:01
with China clips. And I think
they're important because
3:12:04
something's up with these clips.
3:12:07
Adam Curry: Okay, I have my
thoughts already. I'm looking
3:12:09
forward to it. Clip one.
3:12:12
Unknown: One step closer to
China, one step away from
3:12:15
Europe. German Chancellor left
Schultz and Chinese Premier Li
3:12:20
Jiang on Tuesday, agreed to
support free trade after
3:12:23
intergovernmental talks in
Berlin. shores has come under
3:12:27
fire for the talks, which
critics say are not appropriate
3:12:31
anymore given growing
geopolitical tensions between
3:12:34
the West and China. A German
intelligence agency published a
3:12:37
warning in a report on Tuesday.
The report says China is aiming
3:12:42
to obtain German technology to
bolster its military. It also
3:12:46
highlights the risk of cyber
spying operations. Despite that,
3:12:51
the German Chancellor defended
his position on the two
3:12:53
countries relationship, please
the author and historian Philip
3:12:57
Fabri says Germany's tough spot
comes from the country's
3:13:00
economic choices, but it will
industry and
3:13:03
a large part of China's
industrialization has been
3:13:06
achieved through the purchase of
German machine tools, which is
3:13:09
the biggest export sector for
the German economy. So naturally
3:13:13
exporting those as vital for
Germany. Most conditions
3:13:16
Germany's relationship with
China and puts it at odds with
3:13:19
the interests of many other
Western countries, notably the
3:13:22
United States.
3:13:24
The German Chancellor's position
doesn't come as a surprise
3:13:27
though, when visiting China in
November 2022. Shorts promoted
3:13:31
partnership with the country.
And in May, he confirmed a deal
3:13:35
to allow a Chinese shipping
company to take a minority stake
3:13:39
in a container terminal at
Hamburg port. February says
3:13:43
these moves from Germany make it
more and more isolated from
3:13:47
other EU countries. So it could
appeal the bird radionic
3:13:50
trend since the start of the war
in Ukraine, there has been a
3:13:53
loss of German influence in
Europe. That's because of a
3:13:56
whole host of German strategies.
And in particular Germany's
3:13:59
dependence on Russian gas which
is brought some form of
3:14:02
discredit.
3:14:03
Adam Curry: Okay, I love this
good clip. Here's what I think
3:14:06
is happening. I know you have a
second one. So I'll just give
3:14:08
you my unsolicited feedback.
Germany got screwed. They've
3:14:15
been they've been screwed over
by being hypnotized into
3:14:20
believing was a good idea to get
rid of their nuclear get rid of
3:14:24
all their money. They were the
powerhouse of Europe that when
3:14:28
they say they were Germany, if
Germany sneezes, the rest of
3:14:32
Europe gets gets the flu. And
that's no longer the case. So
3:14:35
they got completely Psyops and
getting rid of all of that they
3:14:38
have no industry then we we blew
up the pipeline so they have no
3:14:43
gas, they have nothing, nothing
to do and now they're going to
3:14:46
become part of the Belt and Road
scenario for China. And they
3:14:49
will become the adversary in
Europe. How's that sound?
3:14:55
John C Dvorak: Hi, Bob. Right on
right.
3:14:57
Adam Curry: Oh man, right. Oh,
nailed right on
3:14:59
John C Dvorak: Oh, Are out the
baby.
3:15:03
Unknown: Part two case in point.
On the same day as Germany's
3:15:07
announcement, the EU published
an economic security plan. It
3:15:11
seeks to convince the bloc's 27
states to agree stronger control
3:15:15
on exports. It's particularly
focused on technologies that
3:15:19
could be put to military use by
rivals like China. Well,
3:15:24
I think we're seeing a power
struggle as the EU pledges to
3:15:27
harden its relationship with
China, which is also hoped for
3:15:31
by the US Canada hope we're
determined to have the Europeans
3:15:33
on their side in the strategic
confrontation against China.
3:15:37
Adam Curry: Wow. That's me. You
know what? Even though it's late
3:15:43
in the day, I think I think that
deserves it. out of left field,
3:15:50
John C Dvorak: yep. This is a
big deal. The Belton
3:15:53
Adam Curry: road China that and
they're going to have the
3:15:56
shipping come right up onto the
Oh, man.
3:16:01
John C Dvorak: Wow. As the
cracking of debt in the EU damn
3:16:05
right. No,
3:16:05
Adam Curry: no, but they won't
know what to do. They won't know
3:16:09
what to do. I wonder if they
even see it stupid morons.
3:16:15
John C Dvorak: Well, Jeremy's
got to do some but their power
3:16:17
issues.
3:16:19
Adam Curry: Well, they Yeah. I
don't know what to do. Fire up
3:16:25
the ovens, boys.
3:16:27
John C Dvorak: I don't know.
Please,
3:16:30
Adam Curry: I'm called called
for it totally uncalled for. I
3:16:34
don't know how to get us out of
here. Coming up next, on your no
3:16:40
agenda stream or in your modern
podcast app. If you're using it.
3:16:43
I we've got our big dumb mouth.
It's show 1111 All right. End of
3:16:50
show mixes, we've got DS laughs
we've got some Jesse coy Nelson.
3:16:55
And by request you Allison with
the scam song, which is a fan
3:17:01
favorite. We all like that a
lot. We look forward to seeing
3:17:05
you again on Sunday. That'll be
just before the Fourth of July.
3:17:09
It'll be the second of July.
3:17:10
John C Dvorak: This will be a
fourth of July. We're working on
3:17:12
the Fourth of July four day
weekend today.
3:17:15
Adam Curry: We're gonna get work
and working again. Coming to you
3:17:18
from the heart of the Texas hill
country here in FEMA Region
3:17:21
number six in the morning
everybody
3:17:22
John C Dvorak: I'm Adam curry.
Dan from Northern Silicon
3:17:25
Valley. I'm John Cena before we
return
3:17:27
Adam Curry: on the four day
weekend that we're working
3:17:29
remember us at the boruch.org/na
Until then adios mofos Hui Hui
3:17:43
Unknown: you know that's that's
just patently absurd. It's so
3:17:49
absurd. It's insulting. It is.
This might be a hot thing to say
3:17:56
all of the money you w just see
who's on the team. They
3:17:59
incentivize is never allowed
realize, better measure for your
3:18:03
well should be your health
doctors praised by the public as
3:18:07
an expert class. Once Aspen
solution is trashed all praise
3:18:12
to like a person hitting a mask
for him not to question the
3:18:15
science consensus like Neil
deGrasse What about the Delta
3:18:19
kingdom? On the high wire let
the lefties every RFK Rogen and
3:18:25
a new tape put up millions for
charity to get hotels to debate.
3:18:29
He turned it down. Write a paper
now I'm straight Nah, you're a
3:18:34
clown. No agenda producers where
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the ground with great reviews,
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section approved that connection
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3:18:48
you in Toronto meet up at the
Saudis just come on out and
3:18:52
don't That's why you've all
heard robbery in the Bible
3:18:55
updated by a lizard people learn
that Oh wait, no wait yourself.
3:18:59
Wow. It's really tapped into
form. It does turn into screen
3:19:04
more than ever. And so the kids
to the men the spectrum is
3:19:08
expanding one decade 30 years
ago one in 34 and it's pretty
3:19:13
mad. They don't really want to
know RFA will be fact checked by
3:19:17
the fact check this show
3:19:30
John C Dvorak: is a scam this
thing is a scam this whole
3:19:35
thing. Twice as a scam. This
thing is a scam but he's in on
3:19:42
this team. This whole thing
3:19:44
Adam Curry: death and
destruction. Life is a scam.
3:19:47
John C Dvorak: This thing is a
scam.
3:19:48
Unknown: This whole thing is a
scam. Scam scam
3:19:55
John C Dvorak: is a scam Ma'am
Ma'am Ma'am, ma'am.
3:19:59
Unknown: Justin Imagine using
the same mean image endlessly
3:20:03
for days and weeks and months
and even years.
3:20:16
The O S T, M E M D s, post,
memes, memes, memes
3:20:25
but to understand why we use the
word, you have to go back to
3:20:28
1976 When Richard Dawkins wrote
this book, The Selfish Gene,
3:20:35
the meme is a unit of cultural
inheritance. It's anything
3:20:40
that's copied anything that's
imitated anything spreads around
3:20:43
like a virus.
3:20:45
Adam Curry: I'm surprised that
people took my criticism of
3:20:48
memes so seriously, like, I
don't care you do whatever you
3:20:51
want. I'm just
3:20:52
Unknown: saying. You notice that
most memes really
3:20:55
Adam Curry: stink Yeah, and
people you know, they're proud
3:20:57
of having 10,000 meme lousy
memes
3:21:03
John C Dvorak: either one or two
good ones. They have like one
3:21:05
after another after reading meme
they Oh, there's a meme. Let me
3:21:08
post it
3:21:13
Unknown: I was like an appliance
salesman. I hated my life. I was
3:21:15
super sad. I was on Facebook all
the time making dumb means so
3:21:19
then I just got fed up after
like, my band broke down. My
3:21:22
girlfriend broke up with me. I
was lonely. And I just sold all
3:21:26
of my stuff for like $300 and
flew out to LA I literally
3:21:29
survived off of me money like
this whole like the like, fuck
3:21:34
is he gonna get a job where he
can look at memes all day.
3:21:46
borak.org/in A. Thanks, guys.
Have a great weekend.