July 27th, 2023 • 3h 27m
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Adam Curry: You're boiling like
frogs. Adam curry Jhansi Devora
Thursday July 27 2023. This is
your award winning combination
media assassination episode
1576. This is no agenda. Ice
cream, good leg leg broadcasting
live from the heart of the Texas
Hill Country here at reason
number six in the morning,
everybody. I'm Adam curry
John C Dvorak: from Northern
Silicon Valley where you get a
plea deal and you get a plea
deal. I'm John C. Dvorak,
Adam Curry: Buzzkill.
distraction of the week.
John C Dvorak: I thought the
flying saucer stuff was a
distraction of the
Adam Curry: week to double up to
double.
John C Dvorak: Double duty off
Adam Curry: double duty off
weeks. That's right, everybody.
Yeah. Oh, man. I didn't even
know where to start with either
one of these.
John C Dvorak: Was this. I don't
have any clips whatsoever, even
though there's a right one or
two. Yeah, I got a lot of flying
saucers. And that's your beat.
Adam Curry: All right. All
right, I can do it. Take it
away. All right. So I need to
set this up for a moment. This
is the same guy. grush grush, I
think is his name. Who is being
billed in the media as a
whistleblower? Which he is not?
He's not a whistleblower we
played that people
John C Dvorak: know what a
whistleblower really is? Why
don't you give us a little
explanation of what it was a
whistleblower is somebody who
was in a company corporation or
a government agency that sees
wrongdoing. And then despite the
risks to his career, he blows
the whistle on the corruption,
Adam Curry: right. So it's not a
guy who works for an
intelligence agency and has been
given permission to speak about
a whole bunch of things and
continuously talks about going
into the skiff.
John C Dvorak: He does. I didn't
drive.
Adam Curry: Oh, man. So now, we
just saw
John C Dvorak: this guy. Let me
just ask before you run it any
clips not? Do they discuss it at
all? The Philip Corso book was
off this thing. 920 years ago,
30 years ago? 40 years ago?
Adam Curry: No, this is
something entirely different.
This is this is an OP of a whole
different sort. It's easy to
understand, I think was for me.
No, no, no, this is something
Okay, let's get a little
background are from CBS News.
spooky music.
Unknown: Alien films are a
Hollywood staple. So perhaps no
surprise.
The American people deserve to
know what is happening in our
skies.
There was a line out the door
with people anxious for the
government to share more about
UFOs
and the Baptist Church we'd say
that the devils in our
way. Former intelligence
officers David grush testified
he suspects the Pentagon's
unidentified aerial phenomena or
UAP office is covering up a
decade's long program to
retrieve crashed objects. Do you
believe that our
government is in possession of
UAPs?
Absolutely based on interviewing
over 40 witnesses over four
years,
the Pentagon has denied crushes
claims to former military pilots
also recounted their close
encounters.
This object was estimated to be
almost the size of a football
field.
former military pilot David
Favre testified he was
astonished by what he saw in the
sky.
Now I think it's far beyond
actually our material science
that we currently possess
X Congress signal that will ask
federal agencies and the
Pentagon to be more transparent.
Many people believe that we're
withholding information from
them on any unexplained Aerial
Phenomena incidents of which
there have been at least 366
reported since early 2021. Do
you think anybody's mind was
changed because of this?
I think they will. When they say
this, they see those man they're
not just some random people off
the street.
Senators this week will consider
legislation requiring the
National Archives to release
federal reports about UFOs
arguing those mysterious items
in the sky JB are a danger to
military aircraft and US
security on the ground.
Adam Curry: All the clues are in
here all the
John C Dvorak: second bullet.
Did I hear right that he they
report was David brush believes
he does believe he believes
based on interviews with 40
people? Yes. So he never saw a
craft? No. But we never saw an
alien thumb.
Adam Curry: No, we knew all this
because that was we played his
entire parent pertinent bits
from his news nation interview.
The only one he did it wasn't
exclusive, you know, so that no
one would watch it. Because this
is this is clearly the military
industrial complex. Boom. More
money.
John C Dvorak: Well, let's do
Yeah. Did they also say he is a
corporate intelligence officer?
Adam Curry: No. No, did they say
that they
John C Dvorak: said that they he
was incorporated as a corporate
intelligence.
Adam Curry: Former intelligence
officer Oh was former Okay, CIA.
And in the news nation interview
he said, you know, my bosses
said I could talk. I mean, my
former former bosses said I
could talk about this stuff.
John, whenever you get the
Democrats and Republicans
agreeing 100% in Congress, it's
for military spending. That is
just the history. That's just
the track record.
John C Dvorak: I see.
Adam Curry: And you heard it at
the end of that. CIA
broadcasting systems clip here.
Listen to that,
Unknown: guys to release federal
reports about UFOs arguing those
mysterious items in the sky JB
are a danger to military
aircraft or US security on the
ground
Adam Curry: danger to military
aircraft and US security on the
ground. Yes. And we heard it's a
safety threat to nuclear
national security. Going
John C Dvorak: to ask another
question. Yeah, sure. So these
things have been spotted in the
sky since the 40s. Probably
before that, to see how many
total planes have been crashed
or burned up or shut down or
damaged by these, these, these
dangerous things flying around?
I would make total sense that
say 1935.
Adam Curry: I would be happy to
that to answer that question for
you, Congressman, in the skiff.
That's basically how the whole
anything that was going to be
good was in the skiff. Yes, in
the skiff. All right, I just got
three clips. And you'll be
you'll hear it, this is clearly
the next level of let's get some
more money. We're running out of
money on this Ukraine Gambit.
Let's get some money through
this through this little
rigamarole.
Unknown: One point you said that
there there has been harmful
activity or progressive
activity, has any of the
activity in aggressive been
hostile to in your reports? I
know of multiple colleagues of
mine that got physically
injured, and the activity by by
UAPs or by, by people within the
federal government have. Okay,
so there has been activity by by
alien or non non human
technology and or beings that
has caused harm to humans. I
can't get into the specifics in
an open environment. But he's
the
Adam Curry: he's a
whistleblower, but I can't get
into specifics, you know,
because I have clearances, you
know, I got to be careful my
clearance instruments.
Unknown: I can't get into the
specifics in an open
environment, but at least the
activity that I personally
witnessed, and I have to be
careful here, because you don't
tell me never to acknowledge
tradecraft, right. So
Adam Curry: I've never
acknowledged tradecraft, but
you're a whistleblower, what's
your point certainly witnessed.
Unknown: And I have to be
careful here, because you don't
tell me never to acknowledge
tradecraft, right. So what I
personally witnessed myself in
my wife was very disturbing.
Adam Curry: Oh, I'm so sorry.
You're so disturbed. This is a
it's nothing that but there was
one thing that just bugged me,
because this word, this term
came up this noun. And from a I
think it's a junior, she's a
pretty junior person, what is
her name? I can't remember the
young young lady. So this is all
scripted, by the way, it's
completely scripted. And he uses
or they use this term which just
comes out of nowhere which was
puzzling
Unknown: if you believe we have
crashed craft stated earlier. Do
we have the bodies of the pilots
who piloted this craft?
As I've stated publicly already
in my news nation interview
biologics came with some of
these recoveries
Adam Curry: biologics. If you
look up biologics, which I know
what biologics is biologics is
basically the non tested vaccine
system in the United States.
Those are biologics is a
classification of medication,
but now they're using it in this
in this context, I've thought
that was really interesting. And
I'm not I'm not sure why and you
can look up any dictionary. When
is biologics ever used with
aliens? Never. As I've
Unknown: stated publicly already
in my news station interview
biologics came with some of
these recoveries
Adam Curry: maybe just some
vaccines. I don't know. I mean,
he said he's not answering that
they weren't fired
John C Dvorak: that batch of
SPIRE expired vaccine Derner
Durness maybe they're in their
big box of a blood day. Maybe
we're
Adam Curry: reading way too much
into it. He's just given a non
answer that sounds like he means
aliens, but it's really just
expired vaccines.
Unknown: As I've stated publicly
already in my news nation
interview biologics came with
some of these recoveries
Were they, I guess, human or non
human biologics? Wait,
Adam Curry: now I can be a
biologic. No one ever taught me
this?
Unknown: No. And that was the
assessment of people with direct
knowledge on the program. I
talked to you that are currently
still on the program.
Adam Curry: Oh, so he didn't see
anything he doesn't know
anything is people he talked to
who are still on the program
Unknown: in was this documentary
evidence is video photos,
eyewitness like how would that
be determined?
This specific documentation, I
would have to talk to you to
skip about,
Adam Curry: oh, because I'm a
whistleblower. So let's get into
the skiff about that. This thing
was bull crap. Admit I'm telling
you this is only about the the
next hearing which we'll have to
have. Now we're going to bring
in the military and relevant
agencies so they can start
asking for money. Okay.
Unknown: So and you may or may
not be able to answer my last
question. And maybe we get into
a skiff at the next hearing that
we have, but who in the
government either what agencies
sub agency, what contractors?
Who should be called into the
next hearing about UAPs? Either
in a public setting or even in a
private setting? And you
probably can't name names, but
what agencies or organizations,
contractors, etc? Do we need to
call in to get these questions
answered? Whether it's about
funding, what programs are
happening and what's out there?
I can give you a specific,
cooperative and hostile witness
list of specific individuals
that were in those. And how soon
can we get that list?
I'm happy to provide that to
after the hearing.
Adam Curry: Right away. Let's
have lunch. I'm a whistleblower.
John C Dvorak: How do you have
before you even talk to someone
a hostile witness list? I give
you a friendly and hostile
witness list. This is the canal
Yeah, the name of your guy says
you put me on your list man. I'm
going to say nothing.
Adam Curry: I'm not gonna go get
it. It's all bull. This thing is
the next and they will be a
public hearing and it's going to
be more more of this. And it's
going to be you know, we need to
we need special stuff for to
protect ourselves in case there
are hostile biologics you know,
we just need some we need some
biologics anti biologics. Come
on. Stop this is insulting.
John C Dvorak: If you wouldn't
you wouldn't be so insulted if
they let you in the skiff
Adam Curry: Well yeah, I mean if
you'd let me in the skiff then
I'm good to go. Okay, now now
I've got you
John C Dvorak: know I reminded
it with this Skiff is the dome
of silence from the old Get
Smart show
Adam Curry: was the donor cone.
John C Dvorak: I think we should
call it I think it might have
been cone of silence cone of
silence and it dropped down.
They couldn't hear each other
when they're inside of it.
Adam Curry: Oh, goodness. All
right. Now we've got to get to
the to the next nutty. I mean,
this is this. They're nonstop.
They're not going to quit with
the with this summer, which is
just the worst ever. It's the
hottest ever. We're all gonna
die. This is this is the real
climate change. This is just it.
This is it. This is it. And no
one better to embody the elite
messaging through the old school
elite messaging system, which
would be ABC This Week as
Governor Jay Inslee from
Washington. Now, Mimi lives up
there. are they burning alive up
there? Is there something going
on that I should be aware of? Is
it the worst? Is that something
really horrible happening in
Washington State?
John C Dvorak: brain like a son
of a bitch yesterday? Well,
good, because
Adam Curry: that's not much
going on. According to gov and
this is this. I mean, I only
have two people can play clips
from about this climate change
hottest summer ever bullcrap.
But the messaging is on. I don't
think anyone buys it anymore,
but they're trying.
Unknown: We're joined now by
Washington State Governor Jay
Inslee, a leading advocate for
climate action. Governor, thanks
for joining us. How much do you
owe?
Adam Curry: He's a leading
governor for climate action.
Were you aware of his
credentials?
John C Dvorak: All I know is he
ran for president in 2016. And
he said when I'm elected his
whole his whole foundation, his
whole platform with his
fantastic like point 5% support
was when I'm elected, the first
thing I'm going to do is declare
a climate emergency. Wow. Okay,
so he's been nuts about this
since day one. Yeah.
Unknown: Action. Governor,
thanks for joining us. How much
do you think climate change is
to blame here
Adam Curry: for all the fires
around the world the heat domes?
Unknown: Well look, the climate
change problem. The fuse has
been burning for decades. And
now the climate change bomb has
gone off.
Yeah.
Adam Curry: It works so well
with The Population Bomb. I'm
just going to bring it back and
call it the climate bomb. Oh, by
the way, this is what
Everybody's doing now they're
trying to find the new cliche
that will catch.
Unknown: The scientists are
telling us that this is a new
age, this is the age of
consequences. Because whatever
we thought of climate change
last year, we now understand
that the beast is at the door,
we knew this beast and climate
change was coming for us. But
now it's pounded on the door. I
think it's interesting, the most
sort of sub the climate beast
memory of this situation with
the scientific community is
telling us now is that the earth
is screaming at us. And
Adam Curry: which one of these
do you think is gonna catch?
Would it be the climate beasts
pounding at the door, the earth
screaming at us
John C Dvorak: say to the oceans
are boiling, that
Adam Curry: would that didn't
work because these things are
not catchy enough. Maybe if they
hired the curry Devorah
Consulting Group, we could come
up with one for you, instead of
John C Dvorak: trying to be
better than what he's spewing
out. He's just trying one thing
after a nice like, spitballing
right here, she was telling
Adam Curry: an ideation session
this
Unknown: now is that the earth
is screaming at us. And that is
the situation. I talked to a
leading international scientists
the other day, who told me that
we knew this was going to happen
to us. But it's happening to us
maybe two decades earlier than
we really thought could be in
the realm of the possible. So we
have so
Adam Curry: their predictions
are wrong. And once again, they
gave us more time they lied,
could be in the realm of the
possible, you know, on Wall
Street, you get punished if you
predict numbers, and your
numbers are too good. That's
actually seen long term as a
negative if you're a CEO, or
CFO. Oh, no, you have to
John C Dvorak: nail it. You have
to nail
Adam Curry: it. Yeah, you can be
a little bit over, when you
start leaking out that, hey,
it's gonna be better than
expected. But generally
John C Dvorak: speaking, the
trick is to do a little bit
under and then.
Adam Curry: Yeah. And then Nayla
by penny.
John C Dvorak: And then they go,
yeah, it goes up a penny. Your
stock goes up. $1. Yeah,
Adam Curry: exactly. So it's not
a great deal. For it's not
fantastic for any scientists,
leading climate scientists to
say, Oh, we screwed up. It's 20
years earlier. Oh, talking about
screwing up. Yeah, that mean,
Thanks for the warning boys
Unknown: could be in the realm
of the possible. So we have to
dramatically increase our
efforts. That is unnecessary.
Now, the good news. There's good
news here. We can do this. Look,
we're flying our transportation
fleet. We're electrifying our
homes. This is a solvable
problem. But we need to stop
using fossil fuels. Okay, that
is the only solution to this
massive assault on humanity
Adam Curry: as massive assault
on humanity. Okay, but Well,
this is kind of the same message
as always, let's see. See, what
what some of these, what kind of
goals do we need to have here?
Unknown: What at this point? You
know, we heard you talk about
this, what are meaningful
climate goals in one year and
five years in 10 years?
John C Dvorak: Martha read
niche? Yes, it is. How does she
still have work? What what what?
Adam Curry: Well, this is no
longer a premiere. You know,
being on television is not that
great anymore? It's kind of
where people go to die. Yeah,
look at Andrea Mitchell can be
achieved.
Unknown: Well, we can take short
term action. Look, we've said
we're not going to be selling
internal combustion cars after
2035. We're electrifying our
ferries here in Washington
State. We have a law that
demands 100% clean energy in a
couple decades were accurate.
And I do want to note that that
this is not just something for
the federal government. States
can act. Yes, our state is
acting. We have 23 states in the
US climate Alliance and this is
necessary. We've had tremendous
action under President Biden's
leadership with the inflation
Reduction Act. Unfortunately,
the Republicans are trying to
repeal that now. But we need to
go further and faster and states
can go further and faster and we
are doing that. And again, the
good news is all around my
state. I can't turn over a rock
without seeing new jobs
associated with clean aviation
fuel.
Adam Curry: Clean aviation fuel,
you mean that $15 A gallon crap
that no one's gonna use. They
have jobs
John C Dvorak: can't turn over a
rock. Yes. Without seeing
benefits from from the from that
fuel? Is that what he said?
Adam Curry: Yeah, and this is a
mixed metaphor of epic
proportions. Turn over a rock.
John C Dvorak: Well use it under
one.
Unknown: Again, the good news is
all around my state. I can't
turn over a rock without seeing
new jobs associated with clean
aviation fuel with new types of
batteries.
Adam Curry: Oh, oh, the new
battery.
John C Dvorak: Oh yeah. New
battery Washington State
batteries from the great
Washington State battery
foundry. Talking about there's
no batteries in Washington
State. You've clearly
Adam Curry: haven't looked under
a rock Joe On look under the
rock to see that types
Unknown: of batteries. It's very
exciting what's going on right
now in inventing a new economy
and we're doing that right
Washington State and people get
great jobs because there's so
there's two parts to this story.
This thing is now the age of
consequences the bomb has gone
off. But we do have the ability
to restrict fossil fuels if
we're make the commitments we
need to and I'm glad Governor
state that's doing that.
Adam Curry: So what I'm what I
think he's saying is give me
some more that inflation
Reduction Act money Yeah,
because it would turn over rocks
we got to get more jobs for that
expensive fuel that no one's
going to use. But how do you
bring them all together?
Unknown: Governor governor on
that point, let's let's broaden
the lens here. You heard John
Kerry that the climate czar
watermelon every step for
depends not on one country
acting alone but acting all
together helping to push the
rest of the world to do what we
need to do except China to win
this battle. That really isn't
Oh, it's
Adam Curry: a battle. They
should call it the Climate War.
How can I call it chooses to win
this battle? Call it the war to
do what
John C Dvorak: we need to do,
actually, you know, they think
that's better. Yeah, but
messaging Climate War. Climate
War. Yeah,
Adam Curry: we much better. I
mean, that's what we do. We
fight wars, climate wars, war on
climate, climate one dry, you
John C Dvorak: can see the war
on climate, climate Climate War.
I'm at war. I'm at war. Yeah,
we're working
Unknown: to push the rest of the
world to do what we need to do
to win this battle. That really
isn't happening. Just look at
China. Not yet. But time is
running out. Bomb is already
here. Exactly.
Adam Curry: These metaphors are
working for me all of a sudden,
Climate War The bomb is already
here. These with Oppenheimer
that kind of gives you a vibe
that we could program people's
minds with this.
Unknown: But time is running
out. Bob is already here.
Exactly. Exactly. What do you
do? Together? It's one thing
what your state is doing what
the nation is trying to do. But
this is a worldwide problem.
You lead you tell your kids to
lead when you send them to
summer camp you say lead and the
United States should be an is
the leader in them
Adam Curry: it is you telling
you abuse your children lead?
Okay, Mom,
John C Dvorak: I'll lead you to
summer camp kid. Don't listen to
the counselor and leave me
Unknown: you need to tell your
kids to lead when you send them
to summer camp, you say lead the
United States.
Adam Curry: This is the dumbest
thing I've ever heard. When you
send your kids to summer camp,
summer's over, okay, you lead
and the
Unknown: United States should be
an is the leader in this effort
and people are coming along we
need to lead. We need to lead
not just from a moral
standpoint. But from our self
interest standpoint, we need to
build these jobs here and build
these economies here these
battery companies that are
coming in throughout the
Midwest, I thought you already
had him. But is he talking about
we're rebuilding the Rust Belt
in the Midwest United States
into the silicon belt, and the
belt of of new innovation. So
this is a self interest.
John C Dvorak: There's a catchy
phrase silicon belt, no
development of new innovation.
Unknown: We're rebuilding the
Rust Belt in the Midwestern
United States into the silicon
belt and the belt of new
innovations. So this is a self
interest for us to take action
and we're certainly committed to
it.
Adam Curry: A belt is such a bad
name. Can you think of getting
beat with the belt tightening
the belts on fat you know all
the belt is not a good image bad
on you Inslee
Unknown: and again if you want
to be an economic leader follow
Washington State and what we're
doing we're building the you
know, the largest fuel cell in
the world powering the largest
trunk
Adam Curry: that building the
largest fuel cell in the world.
John C Dvorak: What is he
talking about? I mean, how dare
it is Genet Look at the size of
that one fuel cell
Unknown: state and what we're
doing we're building you know,
the largest fuel cell in the
world powering the largest truck
in the world. Gov
Adam Curry: the largest truck in
the world
John C Dvorak: on the largest
with the largest fuel cell it
basically should be in that
truck.
Adam Curry: Basically the truck
transports a fuel cell and it
drives on it Wow, useful truck.
Unknown: And what we're doing
we're building you know, the
largest fuel cell in the world
powering the largest truck in
the world, Governor new kinds of
batteries we have invented here.
You bet.
Adam Curry: New kinds of
batteries. Is it like the
largest ball of stress he
John C Dvorak: fully ships or
what I mean, what kinds of
batteries were inventing here.
Where's this happening? I have
not
Adam Curry: heard of this.
Hello. It's in the belt of
innovation.
John C Dvorak: Well, that's no
that's in the Midwest. He's
talking about Washington.
Adam Curry: Now they've got the
largest ball of string.
John C Dvorak: Well, that is a
fact. Here it is. The largest
bunch of bullcrap. And so far as
their elections are concerned,
it's all mail in ballots is
completely corrupt. This guy
wouldn't be governor anywhere.
If it wasn't for some machine
they've got set up. That gives
him phony votes. Finally,
DeCicco it's a horrible place.
final clip.
Unknown: Governor, you have just
quickly if you can, you know,
you have candidates out there
like Donald Trump, who mocked
the idea of climate change. And
there are a vast number of
Americans who ignore it, don't
care about it, or don't believe
it, how, oh,
Adam Curry: that's us. Ah, we're
gonna get some wisdom, some
words of wisdom from God who
Unknown: cares about it? Or
don't? How do you convince those
people? It's time to care.
Adam Curry: Okay, now, how? What
would convince you what would
convince me what would convince
us
John C Dvorak: actuals tax after
scientific debate that actually
result in some sort of
conclusion, which will never
happen? Some real, some real No.
Such a situation where they're
not fudging numbers for years on
end, and then going oops, or
we're sorry, fudge that number.
I don't look over here. With all
that ends, maybe I would be
might be convinced is some is
that possible?
Adam Curry: And I should say
that this is all coming on the
heels of a report. And we talked
about I think, on the last show,
the world weather attribution
Institute, which is new. Well,
it's actually it's part of the
Imperial Institute now. Used to
be a Dutch guy. Yeah, yeah. The
ones who
John C Dvorak: are the guys who
predicted that everyone would
die from COVID. Those guys those
guys
Adam Curry: Exactly. And I
looked up their methods, their
methods by analyzing this the
hottest ever we're all gonna die
is analyzing observed real world
weather data collected from
weather stations in the study
region, researchers can find out
how unlikely the extreme weather
event is and identify any trends
in the intensity of similar
events. This is interesting.
analysis can determine how
frequently weather events,
they're all it's all whether or
not it used to be a climate is
not weather, but it is now how
frequently weather events have a
similar intensity would have
been expected to occur before
humans started burning fossil
fuels in the late 1800s. Which,
which means the researchers can
calculate the difference in the
probability of an event
occurring in the late 1800s.
Compared to the probability of
an event occurring today. The
study uses computer modeling to
isolate the role of human to try
it even says it says to try to
isolate the role of human
induced climate change in that
event.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, like stock
market analysis is so simple to
take and come up with a formula
that will predict the price of a
stock and then then retro
actively push it into the 1900s
that say the 1930s and then
track the stock run the model.
Oh, look, it went up. That means
it'll do that forever. Never
works.
Adam Curry: Yes, Bollinger
Bands, basically, research,
researchers use modeling that
simulates the likelihood and
intensity of the weather event
in two worlds. Today's world
with 1.2 degrees centigrade of
human induced global warning,
warming, and a hypothetical
world without human caused
climate change. Researchers then
compare the results to find out
if climate change made the event
more or less likely and intense.
This is, this is what they're
going on. Which is bizarre,
right? Let's listen to his
convincing words.
Unknown: Well, we can't wait for
Donald Trump to figure this out.
Oh, I'm convinced. We don't have
time to mess around to wait for
this knucklehead to figure this
out.
Adam Curry: Is this a solution,
but not waiting for
knuckleheads?
Unknown: We just got to make
sure he's not an office. Oh.
Adam Curry: Don't vote for
Trump. And then we'll be saying
this
John C Dvorak: thing is about.
Don't vote for John vote
Unknown: for Trump. And the way
we do this is vote against
climate deniers vote against
people who refuse to assist this
moral and economic crisis that
we have. You can't wait for
these folks. You just got to
make sure they're not an office
where they can do damage. Go off
and play golf.
Adam Curry: Remember the
remember the question was how do
we bring people together? How do
we convince them it's time by
telling them they're idiots
don't vote for the knucklehead
Unknown: will solve this
problem. It's a solvable
problem. Vote for me if we work
together, and people are coming
around to this very, very
rapidly because their homes are
burning down. You're choking on
smoke from the Canadian fires
Jochen
Adam Curry: on smoke, for which
is all climate change related
mind you? I'm sorry.
John C Dvorak: Sucking on soot.
Unknown: both from the Canadian
fires when Ron DeSantis wants to
go swimming he can't because the
water is like a sauna like a hot
tub off his beaches.
Adam Curry: Or the Florida
waters like a sauna. Like a like
a hot tub. Is that true?
John C Dvorak: Well, the ocean
temperatures are on 90. That's
not a sauna. No, I think it's
Saunas are pretty high.
Adam Curry: That's not a hot
tub. My pool. unheated here in
Texas is almost 98 degrees.
unheated? Yeah, it's not a
sauna. I got small pool. It's
not a sauna. It's not a hot tub.
I don't think the oceans are
like saunas and hot tubs. The
oceans are boiling. But it's Ron
DeSantis. So don't vote for him
either.
Unknown: You're choking on smoke
from the Canadian fires. When
Ron DeSantis don't vote for
Canadians twice to go swimming
can't because the water is like
a sauna like a hot tub off his
beaches. We just got to make
sure that those folks are not in
office. We don't have the luxury
of allowing these people to
destroy the planet.
John C Dvorak: You have to
destroy your cities with
homelessness instead.
Unknown: Man oh man, where
Adam Curry: was the message
here? This song? Oh, not that
one. That's too long. Of a small
one. I thought a short second on
second on set. Yeah.
Go ahead. Suck it in.
Second, as right. All right. So
where does this all come from?
As I mentioned, the elite
messaging machine, it's coming
from the top. It's always comes
from the top. This is the
message across the elite
universe. We're going to be
beaten to death with it. That's
how we're going to die. Not from
climate change. But from just
not being just being beaten over
the head with this message over
and over and over again. Because
it's warm. It's a summer and
there's some fires.
John C Dvorak: Summer is still
no is summer in his hot. Go
figure.
Adam Curry: So this morning,
John C Dvorak: by the way is not
hot here.
Adam Curry: No. And here, it's
what are we at now? We're not
even 100 Most days now,
whatever. This morning live
conference in English and French
from the UN Secretary General
got that us. And he he has had a
conversation he has he has come
up with a new term that might
actually it's a throwback, it's
kind of a retro term. And he's
got a few other gems. I only got
the first couple of minutes of
it as you lay down the land and
then of course it went into we
need more money. We need more
money. Got to spend money.
Unknown: Good morning. Good
morning. Humanity is in the hot
seat.
Adam Curry: Yeah, humanity is in
the hot seat. What an opening
Good job Secretary General
Unknown: today dueled with your
logical organization and the
European Commission's Copernicus
climate change Service
Adam Curry: released this a
service you can get climate
change from
Unknown: single official data
that confirms that July 2023, is
said to be the hottest month
ever recorded in human history.
Adam Curry: So okay, can we just
call that bull crap?
John C Dvorak: That to listen to
this, by the way, the local
news, they're dropping some
gems, but one guy said to start,
it's going to be the hottest in
over 100,000 years as if anyone
had a clue.
Adam Curry: It's the hottest
ever since humans have been
around? Yes, yes. Yes. We
Unknown: don't have to wait for
the end of demands to know this.
Short to the medium.
Adam Curry: Yes, we already know
it doesn't matter. He's gonna
say it's just gonna be the
hottest month on record ever
since human beings have walked
the earth unless there's a mini
eight a ice age that pops up all
of a sudden
Unknown: for the end of the
month. To know this short mini
ice age over the next days, July
2023. We will share the records
across the board. According to
the data released today, July
has already seen the hottest
three week period over ever
recorded ever the sea otters
days on records and the highest
ever ocean temperatures for this
time of year. It's a hot tub.
The consequences are clear, and
they are tragic. Children swept
away by monsoon rains.
Adam Curry: Children are being
swept away by monsoon rains.
Unknown: Families learning from
the flames you run
John C Dvorak: on fire are
Unknown: workers collapsing in
scorching heat?
Adam Curry: Well, they're
collapsing on the on the
basketball court on ESPN the
collapsing everywhere. But yeah,
I guess from the heat
Unknown: for vast parts of North
America, Asia, Africa and
Europe, it's a Cruel Summer
Adam Curry: grow at this song.
It's a cruel, cruel summer
Unknown: for the entire planet.
It is a disaster. And for
scientists, it is unequivocal.
Humans are to blame. All these
is entirely consistent with
predictions.
Adam Curry: No, no, no, no, you
gotta listen to the guy. He is
this. This is where the money is
being requested
John C Dvorak: might as well be
on the view.
Unknown: For the entire planet,
it is a disaster disaster. And
for scientists, it is
unequivocal. Humans aren't to
blame bastards. All these is
entirely consistent with
predictions and repeated
warnings. The only surprise is
the spills of the change.
Climate change is zero. It is
terrifying. And it is just the
beginning.
Adam Curry: It is terrifying and
it is just the beginning.
Unknown: The era of global
warming right
John C Dvorak: now just keep
going right
Adam Curry: now. This is this is
his new this is his new, his new
slogan. Here's the retro slogan.
Unknown: The EDA of global
warming has ended the area of
global Boiling Boiling
John C Dvorak: Well, you know he
may be on to something with the
global boiling because there's a
there's a here's a news reporter
reading right from the screen
about the hot temperatures in
Texas. Hold on a second. Do you
have this? Yeah, hot temps
Adam Curry: Oh hot temps Okay,
Unknown: Terrell ended Dallas
your your heat index is 107.
Every one in McKinney is dead.
The temperature. The heat index
right now in McKinney is
10,000 101,105. It's hot in
McKinney.
Adam Curry: Yeah, I had this
clip but I felt it worked better
with with the visual but it fits
in well here with the glade so
but remember, it was global
warming, then it was climate
change because it wasn't really
warming and started to get
cooler. We must remember these
things. Because that was the big
joke. This all started around
the same time the no agenda show
started with the global warming
with Al Gore's Inconvenient
Truth. Remember, there will be
no more polar bears. Now it's
like the things are everywhere.
Like the didn't know they're a
plague. But you put them on a on
a sheet of ice floating around
and put some blues music under
it. Yeah, so the polar bear is
now a plague. So he's going into
we had the the climate change,
but that it's just not working.
You know? And then and they made
the mistake of saying weather's
not climate and now they're
trying to desperately say well,
extreme weather events. Yeah,
that's climate. And now he's
thinking, you know, you'll know
about I go back, I go back and I
take the global bombing and I
make it global boiling, boiling.
You're boiling like frogs.
Unknown: The era of global
warming has ended the area that
hit me
Adam Curry: flubs the line to
which is must urge him to no end
because it's probably his idea
Unknown: of global warming has
ended the area of global boiling
as arrived. The air is
unbelievable. The heat is
unbearable. And the level of
fossil fuel profits and climate
inaction is unacceptable.
Leaders must live no more
exigency no more excuses.
Adam Curry: Do you hear that you
hear the similarity in the
language with Governor Inslee
leaders must lead you have to be
tell your kids at summer camp to
lead leaders must lead okay,
this
Unknown: must leads no more s&c
as no more excuses No more
waiting for the others to move
first. There is simply no more
time for that no more. It is
still possible to meet Oh limit
global temperature rise to 1.5
degrees Celsius. Why?
Adam Curry: Because if you spend
some money, we got some money
then it's still possible.
Unknown: It is still possible to
meet to limit global temperature
rise to 1.5 degrees Celsius and
avoid the very worst of climate
change but only with dramatic
immediate climate action
Adam Curry: and climate action
equals dolla Dolla dolla give me
another dollar. Okay, so that's
been that's the message you
gotta lead. You got to spend
some money. We're all gonna die.
It's global boiling. Of course
we're doing lots of things. We
have like global boiling by the
way. You think it's you think
that's going to work? No.
John C Dvorak: I just like it
personally. think is funny?
Adam Curry: Well, it is kind of
the you know, the the oceans are
boiling. We're all boiling.
We're like frogs. It could it
could get legs, we'll see. But
of course we've done lots of
things already. You know, we've
got great windmill farms,
ruining our beaches. We've got
pass on the panels that only
work when their son, obviously
expensive break often and don't
really don't really make a
difference. We've got electric
vehicles, electric vehicles
being great. The problem is, you
know, those new batteries that
that we're making in Washington
when you lift up a rock, you
know, they seem to be pretty
unstable. I think there's been
50 fires in New York City alone
from E bikes. This year,
John C Dvorak: I had a whole
ebike story that we never played
that there was clips. It's kind
of funny.
Adam Curry: Well, before we go
before we go there,
John C Dvorak: but there was you
got a toggle about the ship.
Yes.
Unknown: A cargo ship loaded
with nearly 3000 vehicles is
burning off the northern coast
of the Netherlands. one crew
member was killed and several
others were injured. Boats and
helicopters were used to get the
nearly two dozen crew members to
safety. The Dutch coast guard is
trying to keep the ship from
sinking near a habitat for
migratory birds. So
Adam Curry: this story
obfuscates many other boring
stories to talk about the
electric vehicles that are on
board from Volkswagen. The
hybrids and they're the and that
caught off it went so fast as
fire did one guy died they would
jump 11 people jumped I was
watching some Dutch news 11
people jumped overboard or all
but the habitat for the birds
this they're not going to put it
out this
John C Dvorak: is called the
light day angle the habitat for
the work save the birds
Adam Curry: don't look at that.
Now. I had this clip on the last
show we didn't get to play it
this is up in your neck of the
woods. Now there is some other
technology as we move away away
from the inherently unstable
lithium ion batteries that just
man your bump your mass bumping
that crazy no I'm
John C Dvorak: mumbling oh I'm
bumping the mic myself with my
do Woods have a neck
Adam Curry: only in your neck?
This is a good question to
interrupt my flow with about
Sunbury Franklin grease
Unknown: the woods my neck of
the woods
John C Dvorak: where are the
woods a in where's the neck of
the woods?
Adam Curry: You can't actually
fuck an ant either but this is a
fine a fine example of it.
Pardon my French okay in your in
your area of California which is
clearly affecting your brain we
we decided that you know we're
gonna do something else for
climate change and your no
agenda show has been on this
from the minute we spotted it.
hydrogen hydrogen is the way to
go. We need everything to be
running on hydrogen. Yes,
hydrogen it's it's it's when you
burn hydrogen or you get as
water now what does it cost to
make hydrogen? Well, let's not
talk about that. But let's just
make everything hydrogen because
it's safe and effective.
Unknown: A huge loss our
community tonight we have new
details on Kern County's new
hydrogen fueling station going
up in flames will happen around
one in the morning because we'll
fire responding to reports of
flames and explosions on the
property of the Golden Empire
transit also known as get eye
witnesses reporter Mary pronoun
spoke with a good employee.
About more details on what
exactly happen.
Can Michael Rochelle at that
time of the fire the Hydrogen
buses were being fueled at the
hydrogen fueling station. Now
the marketing director of the
company spoke to me today and
she said several damages are we
do begin with their cover. Let's
take a look. We see fires
happening throughout Kern County
and Bakersfield. But this
shocking footage of the massive
explosion shows clouds of smoke
releasing into the midnight sky.
The blast was heard and seen
from the tanks on the bus that
had just been filled. A section
of the Golden State Highway was
shut down as the Bakersfield
Fire Department battled the
flames. The company's hydrogen
fueling station was damaged
though the hydrogen fuel cell
bus was completely burned to
ashes. Yeah, Luckily no one was
hurt and the primary tanks of
the actual fueling station did
not catch fire things to safety
technology.
Adam Curry: The same safety
technology that caused stopped
catching fire in the first
place. Janet Sanders
Unknown: the marketing director
for Golden Empire transit says
more and more of their buses
will be moving away from
traditional fuel and use a zero
emission fuel like the ones
involved in the fire. The state
of the art fueling station
opened up just seven months ago.
And since they're the only
hydrogen fueling station in
town, there will be delays
are the only hydrogen fueling
station in Kern. County, we
won't be able to fuel our 10
Hydrogen buses so it could
possibly cause some delays in
our service because there will
be 10 buses out of service.
Adam Curry: Wow, that's great.
That's great hydrogen fuel
fires. Fantastic. Just
John C Dvorak: for a correction
for anyone out there listening
to the show. Kern County is
nowhere in my neck of the woods,
or nearby. It's like saying,
Well, Oklahoma City in your neck
of the woods.
Adam Curry: I stand corrected. I
repent from my obvious mistake
and cussing. I'm so sorry.
John C Dvorak: Really cussing
was part of the the aunt Satan
Dutch meter Noca Yeah, Mira
NewCon.
Adam Curry: That's gonna be a
ringtone all over the
Netherlands. Alright, so back to
the heatwave.
Unknown: This morning. The
record smashing heatwave is
expanding triple digit
temperatures are possible in the
Plains and Midwest in the coming
days. from Wichita to
Minneapolis. And by week's end
temperatures near 100. For
Chicago.
We got smoke, we got heat, then
we got storms in the forecast is
new for the week ahead.
doctors warn this heat can take
a toll on your heart. Oh a new
study finds the soaring
temperatures combined with poor
air quality can double your risk
of suffer a heart attack in
Arizona. It's the pavement
causing a surge in patients at
the Phoenix burns center.
We have just been seen a huge
spike in the number of people
with contact burns. Most people
don't realize that the pavement
concrete cement sidewalks rocks,
the temperature of those
surfaces can get to be 170 to
180 degrees, which is just
Adam Curry: there. Yeah, I mean,
what are people out there laying
down the pavement? Oh, it's so
hot. I think I'm gonna lay down
on the pavement. How do you get
the pavement burrow the boiling
Unknown: temperature of water so
it only takes a fraction of a
second to get a really bad burn.
Today Phoenix is expected to see
its 26th consecutive day of 110
degrees or hotter. It hasn't
been below 90 degrees in 15
days.
We always expect to see some of
these cases but the numbers this
year are just off the charts.
Adam Curry: Well, it's true. I
mean, we've had an the heat is
so bad around the United States.
We've had a number of incidents,
heart attacks, all kinds of
things happening.
Unknown: We turn now to the On
Air emergency for a sports
analyst at ESPN FC he's not
going on a tour of Japan. A
terrifying moment playing out on
live TV ESPN analyst Shaka
Hislop collapsing on air just
minutes before a soccer match at
the Rose Bowl. The 54 year old
former Premier League player
seems stumbling before
collapsing to the ground. His co
host Dan Thomas immediately
calling for medical staff before
the broadcast cut to a
commercial. Later at halftime of
visibly relieved Thomas gave
viewers an update on his labs
condition. It's good news, he's
conscious, he's talking. I think
he's embarrassed about it all.
He's apologized profusely and
now his slop himself speaking
out.
That was awkward. When I'm 24
always this has been listen
every so often like gives you a
moment to pause and and this was
my There's so much I have to be
thankful for my wife, kids
family loved ones may response
no has to be to seek out the
best medical opinion I can get
and listen to what my doctors
have to say.
Heslop ending his message by
thanking the ESPN employees that
rushed to his aid saying he'll
be back soon.
I'm looking forward to get him
back doing what I enjoy doing
most
of the temperature was around 86
degrees. What caused him to
faint
Adam Curry: Oh no, it's the
heat. Of course it was the heat
and
John C Dvorak: they tried to
shoehorn 86 which is a temporary
temperature which is actually
quite nice.
Adam Curry: No no it people are
getting heart attacks and
collapsing from the heatwave.
Unknown: Meanwhile, health
concerns this morning for Grammy
winner Tori Kelly, that 30 year
old singer is in the hospital
for multiple blood clots. She
was reportedly at dinner with
friends when she collapsed.
Sources say doctors are working
to determine if her heart is in
any danger.
Adam Curry: And I mean it can be
any age you can be 18
Unknown: Tonight the son of a
basketball superstar facing a
medical emergency. Ronnie James
rushed to the ER during a
practice Monday at the
University of Southern
California. A family
spokesperson saying while
practicing brawny James suffered
a cardiac arrest medical staff
was able to treat Rodney and
take him to the hospital. He's
now in stable condition and no
longer in ICU. The 18 year old
is a son of NBA legend LeBron
James and one of the most highly
touted incoming college
basketball players. He was
preparing for his first season
on the USC basketball team.
Cardiac arrest is the leading
cause of death for young
athletes and African What
Adam Curry: is this true? Is now
cardiac arrest is the leading
cause for death amongst young
athletes. Oh, I'd never heard
this cardiac arrest
John C Dvorak: been they've been
saying this for a couple of
years. Now, it turns out just as
COVID has been a mess, okay.
Unknown: Cardiac arrest is the
leading cause of death for young
athletes and African American
college basketball players like
James are the population at the
highest risk. By the way,
Adam Curry: I'm not saying that
this hasn't been happening. It's
just I didn't know what the
leading cause I
John C Dvorak: would like to see
some charts. According to Time
chart,
Unknown: the American Heart
Association Journal, what could
have led to this there are
multiple factors that can cause
cardiac arrest.
Adam Curry: Oh, okay. I'm very
interested, whether
Unknown: it's something that
they've had like a disease in
the heart. So it's it congenital
or something that needs
developed after having an
infection,
doctors with this advice for
parents of athletes of any age,
any student that's going to
start any sport should do a pre
participation physical, and that
includes a an evaluation of
their medical history, and then
also asks the appropriate
questions.
Adam Curry: Like, are you vexed
This? This?
John C Dvorak: You know, yeah,
athletes, especially somebody
like brawny James, LeBron
James's kid, there are over
analysed. There's not like it
slipped through the cracks.
Adam Curry: Well, there's some
interesting analysis, two clips.
The first one, this is a follow
up from that ABC report,
Unknown: you mentioned that it's
rare. Is it rare in young
people? I mean, as young as 18
years old,
Adam Curry: we might see the
leading cause of young athletic
death. How can it be rare?
John C Dvorak: Wait, what?
Beautiful? You're exactly right.
It's the leading cause of death.
How is it rare?
Unknown: This is relatively
rare. But again, we do see a few
cases every year I've seen some
studies estimating that it's
about one out of 80,000
athletes. Well,
Adam Curry: it's certainly more
surely car accidents are the
leading cause of death for young
athletes over this but
Unknown: these stories are
extremely scary. And they are
important to talk to your
doctors about if you have any
particular concerns if you have
a family history, or just
learning a little bit more
information because like I
mentioned, some of these cases
of cardiac arrest can be
attributed to things or the
electrical system that are
related to genetics and not
necessarily lifestyle but it is
still very important to maintain
and maintain a good lifestyle
for overall heart health.
Adam Curry: The electrical
system. No, no, no, I'm
interested. The electrical
system
John C Dvorak: is Dr. Sounds
more like a guy who does
transgender surgeries.
Adam Curry: Let's check out MBCs
analysis
Unknown: tonight the son of a
basketball superstar facing a
medical emergency. Ronnie James
rushed to the ER during a
practice Monday at the
University of Southern
California. A family
spokesperson saying while
practicing brawny James suffered
a cardiac arrest medical staff
was able to treat brawny and
take him to the hospital. He's
now in stable condition and no
longer
John C Dvorak: for a second.
Sure. They played the exact same
B role that the other network
played. Yeah. Which makes me
think this is a package. Yeah,
no dig up the exact out of the
blue coincidentally have the
exact same B roll. Bullseye
takes a shot it's good for three
whatever it is exact same B roll
Adam Curry: and well that's all
that it was a you know they had
to license everything else from
the owners of the NBA and NBA
only released one. That's
probably what happened. NBA had
NBA prelicense this.
John C Dvorak: He's not an NBA
player. He's got nothing to do
with the NBA. Well, then the
knowledge la Oh crap. I don't
know. He's a guy's a high
schooler. That just is he played
he hasn't even played his first
game for USC. He's got nothing
to do with the NBA.
Adam Curry: Do you think that he
has a shot at his career now or
is this going to be Oh,
John C Dvorak: he'll do a
comeback as you'll be fine.
Unknown: He's now in stable
condition and no longer in ICU.
The 18 year old is the son of
NBA legend LeBron James and one
of the most highly touted
incoming college basketball
players. He was preparing for
his first season on the USC
basketball team. Cardiac arrest
is the leading cause of death
for young athletes. It's the
Adam Curry: same script even.
It's the same script. Are
John C Dvorak: you sure you're
not playing the same clip?
Adam Curry: I'm very sure. Am I
playing the same script? No, I
don't know. Oh, man. Maybe I'm
maybe you know what? I think I
have a heatstroke. Let's try
this one that we did. Hey, it's
the same clip. No wonder they
have the same B roll. Wow. Okay,
embarrassing Boomer moment
everybody.
Unknown: Sorry. But we do begin
with that breaking news on
LeBron James son branded a
booster Arnie James in a Los
Angeles hospital right now after
suffering cardiac arrest during
basketball practice at USC. In a
statement to ABC News. A family
spokesperson says that brawny is
now in stable condition and out
of the ICU. That spokesperson
also asking for privacy for the
family and says LeBron James and
his wife Savannah want to
publicly thank the USC Medical
On athletic staff for their
incredible work Friday, James is
a highly touted prospect and is
expected to play in the NBA
after his college career. For
more I want to bring in ABC News
contributor and nutrition, Dr.
Luke Patel. So, Doc, let's just
talk start with how something
like this could have happened.
You know, he's a star athlete,
presumably in peak physical
condition, right? He's only 18
years old. I mean, we saw what
happened in Tamar Hamlin,
sometimes these things happen
just unexpectedly, even when
you're a healthy kid.
Here. That's exactly right. You
know, when we do see cases of
cardiac arrest and young,
healthy individuals, which I
have seen in the hospital, is
usually due to something related
to the hearts electrical,
electrical system.
Adam Curry: I've never heard
this electrical system thing. So
this is they are doing this.
This is another clip where
they're doing the electrical
system. But the find that
interesting, maybe it's
absolutely correct. But
Unknown: for some reason or
another, the heart stops, and
this can cause people to
collapse, lose their pulse, feel
faint, all of these things can
definitely happen tomorrow
Hamlins case it was a direct
blow to his chest. But it'd be
something
Adam Curry: people that was the
same with, with the NBA player,
or the NBA with the NFL player.
John C Dvorak: That's what
that's who he's talking about.
Hamlin is the NFL talking about
Hamlet. Now, I wouldn't remember
this situation very, it wasn't a
direct blow to his chest. No, it
wasn't. He was standing there
and that kind of a huddle, and
it just died on the spot. He may
literally die. But he snapped
him out of it. We're almost done
here
Unknown: feel faint. All of
these things can definitely have
a drawer Hamlins case it was a
direct blow to his chest. But in
other cases, it can be something
people are born with. And they
may not find out until they do a
high intensity activity. So
while it is rare, cardiac arrest
in general can affect about
300,000 people a year. So as a
broader topic, this is something
we should definitely talk about
and different than heart
attacks, which is usually a
decrease of blood flow to the
heart, which people are more
common with those symptoms like
chest pain, like numb like
numbness, arm weakness, etc.
Adam Curry: But anyway, if
people think I'm talking about
the VAX, it's obviously not
people who are vaccinated,
that's just not possible. And
you can't say, you know, maybe
they had COVID, because COVID
wasn't really that bad. Our
president even told us just the
other day,
Unknown: we're still feeling the
profound loss. For the pandemic,
as I mentioned, over 100 people
dead 100 empty chairs around the
kitchen table.
Adam Curry: The best part is
that he can continue now I want
to be very clear and say, I feel
I feel really bad for these
people. I mean, whenever they
have a medical emergency, I
mean, I pray for them to get
better, of course. So we're not
just you know, Google's here.
And there are some some
legitimate issues with the heat.
I mean, it does I mean, we're
under a possible fire emergency
here. They've got the the water
planes, you know that the drop
the water that got them at the
airport here, seven minutes away
from us, so anything could
happen. And I did receive a
request from Sarah, who is in
the hill country. And she says,
I know y'all don't like to shake
the rain stick unless it's
drastic, but our well just ran
dry in our part of hill country.
We live about 15 minutes north
of San Antonio Bovary there are
many around us whose wells are
dry and hot and we have to have
water hauled in from Canyon Lake
but the water guys informed us
they're going into Stage Three
drought soon and will not be
able to haul water. We
desperately need rain in
Kerrville that's 27 minutes from
from my house and here to
replenish the aquifer. There are
so many people flooding in here
that we that won't stop watering
their yards and won't collect
rainwater which we're doing now
she says we have a homestead
with animals and a garden but
it's hard to keep things alive
with so little water this is an
SOS prayers would also be
appreciated greatly I would like
to do a stick shake even though
it will affect me
John C Dvorak: you can do this
shake and that will no fine no
it has this localized situation
you're 20 minutes away because
right yes, it has to fight do a
stick I want you to affect the
entire world flooding
Adam Curry: we need pointed
towards me pointed towards me
and the only one the backscatter
might hit some of Alaska
there'll be okay. I would like
to two shakes for
John C Dvorak: for Ocala
compromised to give one half
shake. Okay, here we go. 123
Adam Curry: So
all right. batten down the
hatches Tina. It's coming.
John C Dvorak: Ah, well, it's
about 65 degrees here it is
foggy. Why don't they talk about
that. They never talked about
how these areas like here which
has been unseasonably cold.
Throughout June we normally have
a nice summer in June never
happened and is still cold right
through July. Did this the story
is the story in
Adam Curry: that that's a good
news story. We can't have that.
That's that's no good. No, no,
no, no, no, no, no. Can't have
that.
John C Dvorak: Well, if you want
to be credited the only cruel
person who will probably do
something like make some
commentary about COVID Yeah, Ted
Nugent. Chris Hi, Ted Nugent on
a podcast. I can't believe this
guy. No wonder is not in the
Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. He's
politically incorrect. When
Adam Curry: the news what did he
do now? What did the nudes do
now?
John C Dvorak: He's just being
interviewed.
Unknown: Would you speak to the
people who believe it is a
worthwhile vaccine and it is
saving lives. They just did
wrong or they've been ceded
federal line from the federal
government.
Jim, I appreciate the
opportunity to speak to the
people that went ahead and got
the job. I speak their language
they understand that.
Well, so all these millions of
people that got the shots,
they're just stupid. Yep.
Adam Curry: The news man, I
can't believe he's not in the
Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. And
neither can Senator Mitch
McConnell,
Unknown: a regular Senate ritual
interrupted today by 19 seconds
of silence, quickly turning to
concern for the health of Senate
Minority Leader Mitch McConnell,
who appeared to freeze up as he
began his weekly news
conference.
Well, good afternoon, everyone.
We're on a path to finishing the
NDAA. This week, been good
bipartisan cooperation and a
string of
his fellow senators, including
John Barrasso, a medical doctor
from Wyoming, he was eventually
helping the 81 year old
McConnell away from the podium.
Returning Moments later, the
Senate's top Republicans
shrugged off a reporter's
question about the moment.
You find you're fully able to do
your job.
McConnell, who in January became
the longest serving party leader
in Senate history has suffered a
series of health challenges in
recent years. He had shoulder
surgery after a fall in 2019.
And he spent six weeks
recovering from a concussion and
fractured ribs suffered in a
march fall, after which he has
sometimes struggled to make out
questions from reporters because
his office has been tight lipped
about the incident saying only
that the senator was feeling
lightheaded. And pointing out
that he answered reporters
questions sharply after he
returned.
John C Dvorak: And they tried to
take him out with the breaker.
Adam Curry: You know, so I was I
was, first of all, it feels very
sad when you saw the video,
right? Yeah, he froze. Now, do
you think that maybe he pooped
his pants? And it's like, oh, my
god, what am I going? I
John C Dvorak: don't know. Okay.
Adam Curry: Well, it could have
been dementia. It could I mean,
this that kind of brain freeze.
That seems pretty severe. I'm no
doctor. There's no analysis of
that.
John C Dvorak: Well, there's
been a couple of discussions.
But again, you can't get good
material except from podcasts
nowadays. Yes, that's correct.
Do you have I was talking to me
about this. And as the
conversation went like this, I
said, Well, I, you know, I've
been watching the reviews and
all the fawning things about the
movie Barbie, when you listen to
the podcasters complain about
the movie, because it's got all
kinds of messaging, and it's
really woke, and he's got all
these issues with the, you know,
trying to his propaganda stick
film, and besides being an
advertisement for the doll, and
I said, the best reviews I've
gotten aren't the 86% Yeah, it's
great from Rotten Tomatoes
professionals, is from these
various podcasters that are
moaning and groaning are saying
one thing or another on both
sides of the art of the debate.
They're members of the public
that have they're not just guy.
Here's another thing. It's not
just the guy on the street,
who's who some reporter shoves a
microphone into Michael Curtis
had a whole little movie about
this, where you shove a
microphone into some rando
person on the street. So I
thought that oh, he was great.
These are people who put
themselves out there thinking
that they're spokespeople for I
don't know who but they're on
Tik Tok. They're on Instagram,
they're here and they're there.
And their material is better
than the mainstream.
Adam Curry: Yes, interest
interesting. I of course it does
depend on and that's the beauty
of podcasting. You're welcome is
you really can get all kinds of
opinions. I have a
overwhelmingly heard positive
things on podcasts and from our
own producers. Interestingly, do
you have any yet and nothing but
negative? Do you have any
examples?
John C Dvorak: Night and bearing
in mind this
Adam Curry: is why there's two
of us. This is why there's two
of us, which is great. I mean,
for as an example, we are very
skeptical about worldwide
pandemics and how they come to
be and that there's going to be
a next one. But if you go to
this podcast, the World Economic
Forum, radio Davos podcast, you
might think something else.
Unknown: The pathogen known as
disease X, the virus that we
don't know yet, but we do know
is out there.
Welcome to the podcast from the
World Economic Forum that looks
at the biggest challenges and
how we might solve them. This
week. The next pandemic is a
matter of when not if so how can
we will prepare for disease x,
we can actually gain a lot of
knowledge ahead of time about
something that doesn't exist
yet. A new
book called disease X says that
even though we can't avoid
future novel viruses are rising,
we can prepare for them and
prevent a global disaster on the
scale of COVID-19 happening
again,
when all of that homework has
been done, we will be quite a
few steps ahead of any new virus
before it emerges. We're kind of
almost ready for anything that
these viral families can throw
at us.
Kelan says that even in a
geopolitically fragmented world
history shows we can still all
work together against this
common enemy.
The vast majority of the
smallpox eradication work was
done during the Cold War, the US
and Russia were pointing
missiles at each other, but they
were also sharing vaccines,
there was this huge push to
eradicate this terrible disease,
Adam Curry: disease X. As far as
I'm concerned, disease X is
already here.
John C Dvorak: Well, I'm sure
it's in the lab. And I would say
here's an interesting thing.
It's what the turn Twitter into
100 years ago, there was the
Spanish flu 100 years ago. And
100 years later, we have this
COVID thing which was probably
blabbed created or created or
augmented from something real,
some
Adam Curry: evidence about the
Spanish flu coming from research
as well.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, well,
that's seems pretty unlikely
Adam Curry: considering nuclear
military vaccination research.
John C Dvorak: And I find that
hard, hard to take. But whatever
the case, if these if the cycles
100 years, who cares? Why are
you putting people in a panic
Adam Curry: because because we
need one, we need another panic.
This global boiling thing is not
working. We know we can get
people to stay inside and mask
up and social distance and
telecommute. That's the only way
we can go. Meanwhile, there is
truly a pandemic and I'm sad to
have to present this news.
Because I've been warning about
this somatic looted magnetized
ozempic will go V I've been
saying it's a they're too
they're too jacked up about it.
They're all too happy. You know,
do we really have the research
that we really know what's going
on? And with this report from
Dr. Terry, what's his name?
Terry dobro. We also find out
what happened to Lisa Marie
Presley. Do you know what she
died of?
John C Dvorak: That she died?
That stomach situation?
discussed?
Adam Curry: Yes. I didn't know
that. I didn't know she didn't
well.
Unknown: A couple
John C Dvorak: of I talked to
her about this. Well play the
clip that I had, because I have
a thought on Good, good, good,
good. Let's talk about the
weight loss surgery, bariatric
surgery, there's several
different kinds. I have read
Lisa Marie's autopsy report, she
had the most advanced kind,
basically, you disconnect part
of the intestines, so you just
don't absorb as much food and
that's how you get calorie
restriction. So she had bypassed
part of her intestines, they
made a new connection between
your stomach and her intestines.
And the most common complication
when you go inside the abdomen
and do that kind of surgery is
that scar tissue forms and
that's called the adhesions. And
occasionally at any time in the
future when you've had this type
of bypass bariatric surgery,
those adhesions can block parts
of the small intestine and cause
what's called a small bowel
obstruction. And that can lead
to a process and it goes on long
enough called strangulation
where the intestines actually
died. Recent studies have shown
that if you're on ozempic type
drugs, they can slow down your
intestines. They can predispose
you to intestinal obstruction
and there may be the perfect
unfortunate storm of previous
surgery with intestinal scarring
opioid Use. So you can't tell
that you're that sick and
further slowing of the
intestines by the use of these
miracle weight loss drugs that
virtually everyone is on in
Hollywood. If you're going to go
on the ozempic type drugs, and
you get intestinal pain, you get
stomach bloating, you get pain.
You drink alcohol with this,
you're predisposed to intestinal
obstruction and pancreatitis and
right now, right now, I have
three of my patients who are on
ozempic. Okay, that haven't even
had surgery yet in the hospital
to in the ICU, with intestinal
and pancreatitis, just from the
use of ozempic Nobody's talking
about this right now. But we'll
talk about it.
Adam Curry: All right, you have
a comment?
John C Dvorak: Yeah, this is one
of those situations and I would
say the M M RNA vaccine is
similar. Where are you? Were
there's something out there that
is being used ozempic is used
from some diabetics? Yes. And
it's a diet for specific
purposes. Yes. And it may be
causing the same affected with
patients that are getting as
diabetics. But until you roll it
out and in this case it wasn't
rolled out by it was rolled out
is we're on a word of mouth
let's all get his prescription
for the doctor sign off on it no
Adam Curry: problem through
Hollywood influencers
John C Dvorak: through Hollywood
influencers it gets rolled out
to the to the mass market then
these things start to show up
it's actually like a test market
that is well as a life and death
test market but it's because of
that this could have destroyed
could still be could be reused
for the next 100 years without
anyone noticing that this is
probably the main problem with
this thing with this horrible
product
Adam Curry: but all these
products are problematic now I
have a Bobby that K clip I want
to play about the vaccine but
first I want to thank Josh
seawell Producer Josh who in his
studio using waves and isotope
the guest these are plugins I
think created the cleanest Bobby
The K clip of what he really
said about the COVID virus now
we I've been trying to clean
this up we've used the Adobe
product it has not worked I want
you to tell me and if it's if
it's not good enough John will
stop it right away. But we may
be the only media outlet in
possession of something you can
actually hear what he actually
said and we need to talk about
bio weapons
Unknown: I know now about bio
weapons because the past two and
a half years and and you know
what we adapt ology that we now
have to
develop these. We have we put
hundreds of millions of dollars
into an ethnically targeted
microchip. In fact, COVID-19
there's an argument that is
ethnically targeted COVID-19
attacks are erases thoughts,
disproportionately the races
that are most of you immune to
COVID-19 because of the
structure of the genetic
structure, genetic differentials
among different phrases, of the
of the receptors of the ACE two
receptor
Adam Curry: COVID-19 is targeted
to attack, Caucasians and
Unknown: black people. The
people who are close to me are
Ashkenazi Jews, and and Chinese.
Right. And we don't know that it
was deliberately targeted that
or not, but there are papers out
there and then show me the
racial and ethnic differential
impact to that. We do know that
the Chinese are spending
hundreds and millions of dollars
developing. And we are
developing ethnic bioweapons
that's where all those labs in
the Ukraine are about they're
collecting Russian DNA. They're
collecting Chinese DNA, though
we can target people by race and
Adam Curry: so still not great,
but now you can hear
John C Dvorak: it's not great.
And the problem I think, just
miking the guy correctly would
be useful now this was still too
much room ambience and echo what
wasn't
Adam Curry: an interview was
just a phone video. That's why
That's why it's so crappy. But
but now we realize that it
wasn't really about his so
called anti semitic comments.
It's about the fact that we the
United States and them these
them's the time I knees are
creating ethnically targeted
bioweapons and he speaks of labs
and he speaks to the Ukrainian
labs all very annoying. So
they've moved the goal they move
the conversation to he's a Jew
hater that's where they moved
but that but the real
conversation is what are we
doing what are we doing what is
everybody doing that you know
this is supposed to be an
international treaty we don't do
we're not creating bio is
John C Dvorak: what we're doing
in fact it's against our own
local laws that dead they had to
move the thing offshore to the
ruling groups. Now I have a
series of cake
Adam Curry: Can I steal your Can
I start with the with my vaccine
What do I have it from the I've
to say two sources because he's
become very interesting this guy
I have a source one is a piece
from Hannity's town hall with
him and the other one is a p is
a two shorter clips of with the
money honey, which are very
fascinating.
John C Dvorak: The my clips are
all about the up
Adam Curry: about the what.
Yeah. Okay, well, let me roll
this one out. First. This is
from the town hall because it's
about he's he's speaking sense
that I was very confused by
this. Because you have okay
before
John C Dvorak: you okay, I'm
going to kind of move ahead of
you on that, before you play
that you should play this, which
is Jen Psaki doing an RFK Jr.
Wrap of every reason he's wrong
about everything
Unknown: really makes you wonder
what is it that Kennedy stands
for? That has the right so head
over heels for him? Is it his
years of work as an anti vaccine
advocate, his repeatedly
debunked claim that vaccines
cause autism? Is it his
trafficking in a variety of
COVID vaccine conspiracy
theories, including ones
involving microchips being
inserted into all of our bodies?
Are they fans of his recent
comments that COVID was quote,
ethnically targeted to spare
Chinese and Jewish people? Or is
it his assertion that
antidepressants like Prozac have
caused the rise of school
shootings in America? Obviously,
completely insane and not true?
Or that Wi Fi causes cancer and
something called leaky brain
whatever that may be? Or is it
this claim that chemicals in the
water could be turning kids
transgender? I couldn't even
cover all of these outlandish,
crazy claims, because we need to
continue with our show.
Adam Curry: All right. There you
go. I know why you did that
clip. Well, that's it. That's
it. That is basically, is it
because he listened to the no
agenda show. I mean, that's
basically what she said, right?
There is very, thank you for
doing that.
John C Dvorak: We never show our
show. And nobody talks about the
microchips that's framed. That's
true. We
Adam Curry: don't talk about the
microchip. Nor does he as far as
I know. I've never heard it. No,
no. In fact,
John C Dvorak: I think most of
what she said is made up and
part of the op but okay, no,
take your stuff in that. I have
more. I have the follow up.
Adam Curry: Okay. And I have a
mic. Other clips are up clips to
sublet. Let's just reiterate.
Let's just regroup here. The
current thinking is and we don't
really know what the current
thinking is. An intelligence
agency is better. There's an
obvious one is running this and
going to make him president.
They're sick of the military
industrial complex, taking all
the money they get
John C Dvorak: being pushed
around. Yeah, this is the great
reset. This is the great reset.
Adam Curry: Bobby Kennedy is JR
is the great reset. And they're
sick of the pharmaceutical
industry ruining everything
because there'll be no one left
to spy on well, I'll be dead.
There, then the sick of of the
Biden crime family and I think
that OP is running reasonably
well, to get rid of him. At the
end the the theory is it will be
Biden exits either through
impeachment 25th amendment death
is sucked into an aircraft
engine. And Kamala becomes
president for a few months that
gives the party the Democrats
energy. They want to keep the
party going and then the only
guy who will have a chance
against Trump would be Bobby,
the K. Did I summarize that
correctly?
John C Dvorak: There's missing
pieces to your summary. But I
think that's that's the overall
the overall look at it. That's
basically it.
Adam Curry: So knowing that Fox
News is run by Democrats, and
this townhall was held in New
York, and the enthusiasm of the
crowd Now was it across the
board was it wasn't people who
were agnostic, or were they
independents, was it Democrats
were excited? I think you'll
find most of them in New York or
a home they found a whole bunch
of undercover Republicans who
like it. They were hooting and
hollering and one thing's for
sure they really buy into his
version of what should have
happened when this when COVID
hit? What would
Unknown: you have done
differently? And when at what
point? In other words, would you
have allowed the experimental
vaccine to be produced? Would it
be only for older people? Would
you have had mask mandates?
Would you have any school
shutdowns? You know? And if you
took those policies on, do you
not run the risk? If there's
more human contact, a virus we
didn't know a lot about early
on, we still don't really even
know enough. And as far as I'm
concerned, what would you have
done differently,
Adam Curry: I would have done
everything differently. I mean,
number one, the first thing
civic first, the first thing
that they should have done is to
use the you know, they use the
internet in many, many ways,
usually, to censor doctors,
physicians are trying to say,
hey, you know, I'm using a
treatment protocol that actually
works. I'm using therapeutics
that work closely with silence,
we should have done the
opposite. We should have used
the internet, we now have this
extraordinary resource to link
ourselves to the 15 million
frontline physicians around the
world. And has that report. What
treatments was it using? What
was working? We know now, there
were dozens and dozens of
therapeutic drugs that were off
the shelf drugs that were
obliterated talking about H CQ,
or you notice notice Hannity
saying, Ah, CQ, because I guess
not allowed to say
hydroxychloroquine? Yes, to kind
of use code now. Now. Dozens and
dozens of therapeutic drugs that
were off the shelf drugs that
will obliterate you're
Unknown: talking about H GQ, or
you
Adam Curry: know, drugs,
Chloroquine, but many, many,
many others. And then what is
now what kind of crowd is this?
That can't be a bunch of
Democrats who are applauding
these alternative horse paste?
Is that so is that Republicans?
Are they they're sitting or is
this rent a crowd? I mean, I'm
combining
John C Dvorak: it's got to be
read the crowd. These are
shells,
Unknown: and by the head of the
urban many, many, many others.
Adam Curry: And then I think
there's a list. I've seen a list
at Pier quarry and document
colic. I have published about 20
different drugs that were just
devastatingly effective against
those. But see, the problem was
not only did they not focus on
those are they tried to prevent
the public from getting access
to them. And the reason for that
was because there's a little
known federal law that says you
cannot give an emergency use
authorization to a vaccine. If
an existing therapeutic drug
that has been approved for any
purpose, proves to be effective
against the target disease. So
if they hadn't admitted that
hydroxychloroquine, which they
knew from day one that it worked
against, against COVID.
Unknown: Henry Ford Hospital but
after the fact came out and said
that taken early it mitigated
symptoms, that's what I took out
of that. And there were other
studies that followed. I never
saw one on ivermectin that
showed it was effective.
However, monoclonal antibody
seemed to be a therapeutic that
worked very well.
Adam Curry: I love how Hannity
really ate the the narrative
like oh, no, that's all debunk
studies. It's no good. And so
here's Kennedy, first speaking
the truth because that's exactly
how it works. You can't have a
vaccine certainly not under
emergency use authorization if
there is a treatment for it. So
that's why these these
treatments were basically the
platform Hannity is now saying,
well, there's no no evidence of
that, but that
John C Dvorak: was a which is
just the opposite of the truth.
And we have documented on this
show. Yeah. Almost 1000 studies
showing that ivermectin is very
effective, and I haven't
ivermectin Kennedy home coming
up where he outlines this
himself. He's doing I don't know
how he I didn't see this. So I
don't know how he handles handy.
This Hannity lying. Yes. Not
showed. Well, it's also backup
at because I have listened to
his radio show a lot. Because
when I'm driving, if it's on I
listen, I'm sorry.
Adam Curry: He.
John C Dvorak: He was a huge
promoter of the monoclonal
antibodies, which were then
adapted in Florida, and then it
turns out to stop working with
the first variation, which was a
problem, but he liked to pet
him. He loves to Pat himself on
the back about these monoclonal
antibodies.
Adam Curry: Well, as you'd
expect, Bobby decay answers it
correctly.
Unknown: I never saw one on
ivermectin that showed it was
effective. However, monoclonal
antibody seemed to be a
therapeutic that worked very
well. But that was also
experimental.
Adam Curry: Well, I don't know
about those studies because the
press is not reporting. You go
to marrow masses website Dr.
Merrill NASA's mag Whoa, Wait,
wait a minute. What this is not
okay. terrorism or Harvey ratio
is one of the leading world's
leading epidemiologists at Yale
and they have the list of 199.
studies that show that on
average about 85% effective
against against serious disease
does not
Unknown: show the same about
hydroxychloroquine. A lot of
break, we'll come back to
exclusive townhall, Robert F.
Kennedy
Jr. For the hour.
Adam Curry: Of course, to go to
commercial.
John C Dvorak: This is funny.
Well, I, since you played it, I
think it should. This was he
went on the hill. Yeah. That
showed the rising.
Adam Curry: Yes, yes. And the
girl the woman there hates him.
Well, she's black. So she always
does she No, no, no. Who knows?
John C Dvorak: No, no, you're
thinking of the old Gold Hill?
Yeah, no, no, I
Adam Curry: don't know about the
new Hill.
John C Dvorak: No, the new Hills
got some doofus and she's a
black girl and girl thinks he's
a racist. Let me guess. Well,
she kind of does. But it's not
what were the clips had is a two
parter. It hits to the to the
same discussion of ivermectin
with a guy but gives another I
didn't have no idea why this
keeps cropping up in the Kennedy
really does a good job of
shutting him down. Because this
is a two parter, you got to
start with part one.
Adam Curry: And blacks were
dying in our country, at a rate
of 3000 people per million
population in Haiti, which is a
poor country, we were told the
poor countries were going to be
devastated. They don't want
about 1.3% vaccination rates and
almost nobody was vaccinated.
And they were dying at a rate of
14 people per million
population. So 1/200 of our
death rate the same in Nigeria,
the average in Africa was about
320 per million population.
That's 1/10. Of what we had
here. So it's unclear. These are
all things that need to be
studied. But I never believed
that it was because the you
know, I don't think I think it's
unlikely that it's because the
virus is is more virulent
towards the Africans, those
Unknown: discrepancies, those
differences in the lethality of
COVID be attributed to different
ages of the population? I don't
know exactly. But the average
age in Haiti is probably in here
and things like that.
Adam Curry: Yeah. Yes, there are
many, many are the CO variables.
It's interesting. I mean, these
are things that should be
studied. So I don't think you
can make any conclusion from
them. But for example, Japan,
which has the oldest population
in the world, had a death rate
about 1/10, the United States.
So you know, these are things
NIH, the $42 billion annual
budget, we ought to be looking
at that and saying, Why are some
people surviving one? Or is it
because they took ivermectin and
hydroxychloroquine in this
country? Is one of the protocols
what are they you know, the
other differences so that the
next time we have a disease like
this, that we actually have some
knowledge about it? Just an
observation before you go to the
next clip? He's almost your age?
He's 6069, I think. And it's,
it's fun to see that no one. No
one has a problem with him
calling African Americans blacks
or the blacks as you might say.
They're missing an opportunity
to call them a racist.
John C Dvorak: Well, I think
sisters and up
Adam Curry: they're not gonna
Yes. is also not come out
against him yet, because of his
wife. You know, there's all
kinds of stuff that doesn't add
up his handler. You mean his
handler? Yes. His handle Cheryl.
Cheryl, the handler.
John C Dvorak: So here, we talk
about the ivermectin again, and
this time, he added, this guy is
just a stooge, the guy from the
hill when it comes to these
things that we're going to, and
it's almost again, like it's a
testing ground for this is what
you're going to be hearing, how
do you react to it? And I think
this is one of his better
reactions to it much better than
the Hannity one.
Adam Curry: The real questions
that you'd want answered or not
studied, and that is
frustrating.
Unknown: Do you think there's,
you know, they
talk about hydroxy, Chloroquine,
and ivermectin, I looked at a
lot of the studies that seems
pretty mixed. To me. I haven't
seen a lot of compelling
evidence that they did. A lot of
good I've seen one argument that
ivermectin which can help you if
you have a parasitic infection,
if you will study the countries
where that's more prevalent,
where they did a lot of the
ivermectin studies, there was a
pot there was a good outcome,
but it was It wasn't because it
was fighting COEs making it
easier for you to recover from
COVID. You also have parasitic
infection at the same time. So I
wonder if there's a skew on the
slight positive that that Have
you have you heard this? US
because there's not widespread
parasitic infections?
Adam Curry: Yeah, I mean, I've
looked very, very carefully at
the Look at the studies. There's
now in fact I just did an
article this week. There are now
100 studies that show that
ivermectin had profound
benefits, generally speaking, a
70 to 85% reduction in
hospitalizations and deaths, it
was really a miracle drug,
particularly in the later rounds
of pandemic.
Unknown: If that was all in like
Bangladesh or South America, it
could be because
Adam Curry: all over the world
parasite it was all over the
world and the countries where
they use it for parasites in
Nigeria, which has the highest
river blindness burden in the
world did have the lowest COVID
death rate in the world that
they use, they also have the
biggest malaria burden. So
virtually the entire population
is on my on hydroxychloroquine.
And a large part of the
population is on ivermectin for
the river blindness. So, and
they had almost no vaccination
they I think one would like
something like 1.3% vaccination,
so they did very well. But there
are states in India sort of side
by side state, like aralen,
Uttar Pradesh, or Corolla used
our protocol and had the same
comparable death rates and blue
Pradesh use ivermectin
hydroxychloroquine. And end of
the pandemic overnight. So I
liked it, he's answering it that
way. I do have a problem with
this. You know, so obviously,
the the obvious thing to say
would be well, you know,
causation is not correlation Bo,
just because could be other
things. Maybe that's why the aid
targets black people, the
heavily but you could also did
what he's also saying, although
he's not really pointing that
out is that the country where
people didn't get vaccinated
less people died? So was it
ivermectin or was it people
getting killed from the vaccine?
John C Dvorak: Yeah, well,
there's that but they do that,
from results will take into
account the pre vaccine era.
Okay, which was a year. Yeah.
But that was a year of data.
Adam Curry: It was like flu flu
level does.
John C Dvorak: Well, there was a
lot of deaths in the first year
in the nursing homes in places
where they were placing these
people. Yeah, but there were no
there was virtually no deaths in
those that one area of India
where they were using
ivermectin, we did this story.
That's true. Where were they
used ivermectin. And then
someone came along and said, No,
you can't use it. It take away
the packs the Z pack whenever
they took away those evac packs,
or whatever they're called. And
then they the COVID cases,
jacked way up. And they did
Publix demanded to get these
things back. And so they start
using ivermectin again and went
away in that one case that he
cited, the whole area was free
of it.
Adam Curry: Or I'm going to
withhold my clips, I want you to
continue with your with your
bobby the app. Well,
John C Dvorak: the only ones
that these are the only two I
got two left, which is the
opposite, kind of more of the op
clip, which is the I'm seeing
the opposite to equate Kennedy
with Trump in his run up, and
then start to pull out the pins,
the underpinnings that show that
he's not the same as Trump. So
you but to get the popularity
up, you have to make him Trump
white. Well, otherwise, why is
he so popular? Why he's, he's
just another version of Trump.
And so that is, that will go on
for another month or two. But I
have clips to prove this. Okay.
My Trump clips and this is RFK
compared to Trump, and I believe
this is on Fox. I think it is
but one and here's
Unknown: how you know that RFK
is getting under their skin. The
media
is now comparing him to Trump
parallels between Trump and
Bobby Kennedy Jr. are kind of
stunning. They'll throw these
grenades out and let them
explode and then walk away and
go, Look, I didn't do anything
we have now open this. Can of
Worms were kind of contrarian,
eccentric candidates are running
and it was Donald Trump first in
the Republican Party, and now
we're seeing it in
the Democratic Party.
Adam Curry: Okay, yeah, there
was Judge Jeanine. So definitely
Fox now has the
John C Dvorak: the idea is to
not only do the parallel at
first, but to also this will
also suck away certain
discontented Trump voters always
like kind of like Trump and let
me take a listen to what he has
to say. When you hear his
messages, which are the ones
that Misaki outlined,
inaccurately, you start to see
that he can take voice taking
votes away from disgruntled
Trump supporters and there's
plenty of those.
Unknown: I have not been
warranted to enable. All right,
good. Stop.
John C Dvorak: I'm sorry, I
should have set this up. Right.
So this is a continuation of the
first clip of these different
people on MSNBC, acquainting him
with Trump and this is I say
this last one and put it aside
this is Larry O'Donnell,
Lawrence O'Donnell, whatever.
Yeah, wants to call himself he.
He decides to do this kind of a
bit, where he doesn't say it but
he he brings up Something which
I don't I think in the opposite
not allowed to happen. You're
not supposed to talk about
Kennedy's heroin addiction.
Adam Curry: Right? That is a
little, almost no one knows
this.
John C Dvorak: Is this is a no,
no. Yeah. And so so. So Donald
feels obliged to kind of at
least suggested he doesn't say
it. But he suggested in a very
awkward way, and I think he's
gonna get if he's, and I believe
he would be part of a giant op
will be reprimanded for this
because it's a little too close
to home, but he never pulls it
off. And I thought it was total
chicken shit. If he's going to
pull something like this and not
not actually bring it out or say
it. And nobody said it. Nobody's
brought it up. Ted Kennedy is a
heroin addict. But listen to
this.
Unknown: I have not wanted to
enable his access to the drug
addiction, that he has never
conquered. The drug addiction
that has been with him for all
of his adult life, the addiction
to attention.
Adam Curry: Wow. Yeah, yeah,
interesting. Okay, so what I
thought, well, I have to now so
now, two clips, one where he
excoriates the intelligence
agencies in an appropriate
manner which actually I've never
really seen done before.
Certainly not on a fox property.
Although this is the money honey
on Fox Business. So this is all
dry run. No one watches that.
Yes, dry runs a dry run. And
Maria is great. I mean, Maria is
reading on it. Man, you are
bumping your mic like crazy.
John C Dvorak: Bang day with a
glass full of water.
Adam Curry: Well stop it.
John C Dvorak: Sorry. Telling me
I did that.
Adam Curry: You keep doing it.
John C Dvorak: I don't keep
doing it. You have it's the it's
the
Adam Curry: stalking thing. It's
the it's the plot filter that's
hitting your mic. I'm telling
you.
John C Dvorak: No, it's not even
mirrored at the moment. Okay.
All right.
Adam Curry: You want to be
professional. So it's a dry run.
But he is he's, it's actually
the best explanation in under a
minute of exactly what happened
with the deep platforming of
doctors and everybody else for
any reason. By the by all the
agencies, the alarming thing
that's come out in judge OTS
decision is a federal district
judge just issued 175 Page
decision forbidding the White
House from having any contact
with social media companies
because it abused those that
abused those contacts so badly
over the past three years. What
we now know is that the White
House had deployed an army of
federal agencies, including the
CIA, the FBI, the DHS,
Department of Homeland Security,
the IRS and many others, to
threaten Facebook, Google, and
Twitter. With withdrawing there
is section 230 immunity, which
is an existential threat, those
companies cannot exist without
that immunity. And they were
told that if they did not
censor, the President's
opponents, critics of these
policies that they would lose
that immunity. Unbelievable.
Maria, unbelievable. That's a
very clear explanation of what
happened. I don't think I've
heard anyone say it that
clearly. That they've threatened
them with their and section 230,
if you don't remember, is the
section in the communications
law, telecommunications law that
says a platform that hosts user
generated content, as I think
that's what they called it, when
they wrote this, it was still
called UGC that you cannot be
held liable for what someone
says on the platform. Which, by
the way, I'm now kind of
thinking we should just remove
that. But that was all you know,
that and taking away
pharmaceutical commercials would
solve a lot of problems in the
world. Get rid of that immunity
for them. Now he mentioned CIA,
FBI, IRS, DHS, did I miss one?
John C Dvorak: Everybody's wants
to get in on the act. If you can
push people around to take to
promote your messaging as
opposed to theirs. You would do
it.
Adam Curry: So why wouldn't you?
So? Yeah, go ahead.
John C Dvorak: I should mention
there was a law case against one
I was against Google or somebody
about it had to do with section
230. And I've always been
personally of the opinion that
if you're a publisher, you're a
publisher. And that's what
Google realizes. They say Google
is a Twitter. It's a publisher,
they're publishing this stuff.
And yes, user generated but so
is like the news stories in the
New York Times. They're
generated by reporters who are
paid to write this stuff, but
it's still kind of user
generated. They also have
letters to the editor, which are
user generated, and they feel
obliged to edit these things.
And so They, you know, to keep
like liability issues at bay.
And I've always felt that this
should be the same with these
with these other guys. And so
there's this case against one of
them and and it was I wish I
could remember the details
because I called the attorneys
and volunteered myself as an
expert witness. Pick Me Pick Me.
Well, I was a good it was right
up my alley. The case and I
talked about this as a Yeah,
it's a disaster. You know, this
230. I went on talked to his
lawyers and all you got always
said, we're not going to use
you. There's no way. He says
because you think that 230
should be abolished? And he says
that weren't making this lawsuit
on the basis that it should be
in play. And I could I to this
day, I can't figure out what
their logic was in this case,
Adam Curry: maybe money. Yes.
There was
John C Dvorak: there was that,
always that guy.
Adam Curry: So now you could
this next clip, I think is is an
important one. Because this is
either we have the wrong agency
in mind for this up, or it's a
stress test. And because of this
comes right out of this after
he's excoriated these agencies,
and now the money honey, who by
the way, during his answer is
looking at her phone. Very
weird. And she's looking because
John C Dvorak: there's lots of
different dancers. There on it.
Adam Curry: Yeah, yep. And so
this was the next question. It
was clearly the back and he's
very rude when you're in the
setting and they're both at a
desk and you can see her looking
at her phone, you know, just
scrolling through or tapping
some stuff. Alright, so that's a
text message in mind. You know,
John C Dvorak: Jack fields got
field does this on his show all
the time? Yeah. He was doing it
the other day he was going he's
back channeling somebody on his
phone. Man.
Adam Curry: You you listen to
Hannity, you watch God filled? I
mean, dude, get some I do. It's
imbalance in your diet.
John C Dvorak: I got balanced.
Adam Curry: All right. Now
listen to this.
Unknown: There is this network
in place, make Trump calls at
the swamp. Others call it? You
know, just this network of
establishment that is hard to
get read. I've seen your
comments about the CIA and the
assassination of your uncle and
father that they were involved.
How do you get and break this,
this enormous network?
Adam Curry: Well, you have to
you have to do it agency by
agency because the fulcrum of
the corruption, this corrupt
merger of state and corporate
power is happening within the
agencies and each of those
agencies have different issues
of agency cabinet, promoted and
prompted the capture of those
agencies by the industries
they're supposed to regulate
with the intelligence agencies
in many of them, although not
all of them, are now serving a
purpose of enriching the
military industrial complex and
expanding its power for some
military contractors when they
recognize this it's a function
of the CIA had devolved into
providing the military
industrial complex with a
constant pipeline of new wars in
order to rich enrich military
contractors and expand the power
of the intelligence apparatus.
Unbelievable again, this to me
is very interesting this answer
so he's saying not all the
intelligence agencies are bad
and then goes on to say but CIA
they all they do is provide a
continuous pipeline of wars so
the military industrial complex
can enrich itself how do we
analyze this
John C Dvorak: misdirection
straight up you know it can
obviously be an opposite when
he's critical of the agency that
we're accusing him running the
OP but I think is gorgeous
Adam Curry: I was very impressed
by this whole sequence and then
went on for like eight minutes
it was I don't didn't clip
anything else but Oh, wow.
John C Dvorak: Look at him he's
bitching and moaning about him
but the complaint was it was
milk toasty if you think about
it so what
Adam Curry: that's the one thing
they're gonna stop doing huh?
They're gonna they're gonna stop
creating a pipeline for the true
Hey, we create this pipeline we
get nothing from you guys. We
got an in smuggle drugs and arms
and you guys just get it above
board in the NDAA
John C Dvorak: as part of the
thing is you get you make just
as much money without having to
manufacture anything if you're
just the arms dealer. Yeah,
yeah, yeah. Hey 50% markup.
Adam Curry: With that, I'd like
to thank you for your courage in
the morning to you the man who
put the sea in your Climate War,
please say hello to my friend on
the other end. Ladies gentlemen,
Mr. John.
John C Dvorak: In the morning,
you have a string of Korean
Memorial ships, the boots on the
ground feet in the air subs in
the water and the names and
nights out there
Adam Curry: in the morning to
patrol In the trial hold on
Stop. Wait Don't move
Unknown: down to things on
Adam Curry: there moving around
20 to 17 It's a blowout. It's a
John C Dvorak: big number for
Thursday. Anything over 2000s is
a big number.
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John C Dvorak: verses sounds
like a winner. Yes, very
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Adam Curry: So he's the guy that
told me that once they hit July,
they were going to screw the
writers. Remember this
conversation? Yeah. So I said
well, what happened? He said,
Well, we hit July but then the
actors went on strike. We had it
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industry currently does not
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until the new year
John C Dvorak: until January
2024 Correct.
Adam Curry: And he says the
streamers love it. They just
pushing their catalogue. They
don't really want to make any
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money. It's not where
John C Dvorak: they got it.
Plenty old stuff that nobody
watches so they can just
repurpose it and
Adam Curry: He says their stock
prices are going up because
everyone knows that they're not
going to be spending any money.
Their capex is going down, stock
price goes up. He says that
they're loving it. So there you
go, what
John C Dvorak: is his what is
his take on the whole thing?
Does he think that the writers
and actors have been suckered?
Adam Curry: I don't want to
speak for him. But it sounds to
me like he feels the writers of
being completely unrealistic. So
unrealistic. But again, I don't
want to I don't want to speak
for him. Because, you know,
industry people listen to this.
And I don't want people to think
he's a douchebag. Because he's a
really sweet guy. And, man, they
like, oh, we want to live in
Fredericksburg. Now.
John C Dvorak: Where are they
from?
Adam Curry: They live in Austin.
John C Dvorak: They both they
gotta move out of Austin. So
Adam Curry: most of them escaped
California to move to Austin
when COVID hit. That's why and
that's what
John C Dvorak: they've noticed
has become California looks like
San Francisco.
Adam Curry: People believe me,
they're both seeing this. And
now she's six months pregnant.
So I don't know if she wants to
move before they get warm
tomorrow. But well, they were
apparently they were looking on
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John C Dvorak: Well, let's start
with you not liking this piece
Correct?
Adam Curry: Yeah, well I liked
other one I
John C Dvorak: heard the no
agenda jam did drones piece when
I did? Yeah you did you liked
that piece and I had to dissuade
you by saying it is by QUB the
boob. By SE is to is to to a
Adam Curry: light light it was a
jammed oh you have the like,
like a stamp and look like YEAH.
John C Dvorak: OKAY is one of
the types we go for a lot. I
thought we go for two things.
Probably more than we should one
is that look which is a stamp or
a logo look challenge on the
other one is, as you said, with
no agenda crunchy cricket one
hour. It's just another package.
Adam Curry: This was exactly
what I said. Another package.
Yes,
John C Dvorak: exactly. And it
wasn't, does nothing that could
top it was the problem.
Adam Curry: I did actually for a
moment there but consider
Qamishli bloggers
John C Dvorak: scorched earth
that was going nowhere.
Adam Curry: All the cocaine
shark stuff was that had no
chance. We're not going to
promote Shark Week.
John C Dvorak: No, we're not
ever emoting somebody else's
product necessarily. No, no, no.
You're less just to mock them.
Yes.
Adam Curry: Yes. They so yeah.
Now and I believe that sir Schug
has, has actually produced
several pieces of artwork never
been chosen. No. He's gotten
he's come close, I think.
John C Dvorak: I'm reminded the
guy who puts in his fridge. This
has happened maybe twice in 15
years. Some newbie comes along,
puts in his first piece piece of
art wins, boom, right? never
shows up again.
Adam Curry: Well, that's
possible. Of course, that is
possible.
John C Dvorak: Well, witters,
Adam Curry: we we certainly
appreciate you, sir Schug, aka
fo Diddley. We appreciate the
work of all the artists, they
put their heart and soul into
it. You can see it and you know,
but we're going to be honest,
that's the one thing that's some
value get even if you're not
chosen. In addition, Dred Scott
who does the chapters if you're
using a modern podcast app,
which you can see rotate right
in your dashboard. If you're
using the app in the car, he
uses a lot of these pieces of
art and it's very funny to see
them pop up in conjunction with
topics as we're talking about
them. Thank you all very much.
You can go to no agenda art
generator.com. As always, you
can participate. You can be an
artist, you can upload it. It's
that simple. Now for the
treasurer, we're going to thank
some executive and Associate
Executive producers. These are
real credits. They are valid
anywhere that credits are
accepted. These days, you can
put on your LinkedIn you can use
it on your IMDB you can start in
IMDb with you can become a
member of the producer unions
not free. But you can say here's
my credit let me and we start
with a fan favorite. Once a
month he comes in speaking of
number stations, it is the one
and only sir autonomous of
Dogpatch and Lois LeBeau via
location unknown vocation
unknown and reason for numbers
donated unknown, but man does he
come in and save the month? 2033
and I'm sure there was some $2
bills in there.
John C Dvorak: Yes, as a matter
of fact, there were four of him
Adam Curry: and he believes in
$2 bills as a messaging system I
guess. And he always sends a
note which we're happy to read
and this is sent to the mail
always from different mailbox
and typed on is this printed
thicknesses are printed it's
printed yeah though, so we
should be able to track that
printer when the he may be the
hidden code that be thank you to
all the producers for their hard
work your media deconstruction
and analysis is outstanding of
mailing my donation between
travel demands and yes, people
everyone's an expert at
something email us if you've got
something to say about something
you know something about John.
Arranged marriages are not
because of people being lazy. It
has always been to maintain
wealth, power and bloodline
daughters have been married to
trees, so the sons got larger
shares of land and to avoid
family bloodshed. All this is a
history lesson. Families that
insist on pedigrees for dogs or
horses will do no less for their
children to assure their future
grandchildren maintain their
wealth, power and bloodline
bloodline. separately. I want to
share our nephew's claim of
being LGBTQ using his
definition. Let's go by the
Koran. Okay, we know something
about strong animus after
intense political criticism on
the selective removal of adult
body parts prescribed as a
punishment for theft. Please
deconstruct the politically
supported selected removal of
children's body parts by adults
as moral high ground always with
a brain twister in their search.
Anonymous rationales such as
emotional distress by children
should be compared to thieves
often mental illness or steal or
starve situation. Wow. Deep.
Deep some Yeah, sir autonomous.
John C Dvorak: This is one of
the few notes where he doesn't
put in j n k for some reason
Adam Curry: ha. And more code.
John C Dvorak: No, we're onward
from Sir anonymous, the Janus
Hall. Thank you sir autonomous
and she's an sakto otherwise
known as Sacramento. Today I
mail an envelope off to the best
damn podcast in the universe
which contained this note a
check for $1,000 in the dime
baggie containing 35 cents
Dimebag 33 cents is for you know
why and the last two pennies are
for the pod fathers coin jar.
Thank you. My donation last year
for episode 1451 $1,000
requested no knighting or
anything. This year. However,
I'd like to request a seat at
the round table to be knighted
as the barren net tests of the
rustling and forest I'd love to
have prime rib a baked potato
and a nice glass of red wine
while dining after I'm knighted.
John C. Love hearing your new
musical instruments while
listening to the live show. Big
keep the show light hearted
while listening to Sirius
subjects. Pod Father
Adam Curry: Yes
John C Dvorak: No worries over
the sound of your voice using
your new temporary choppers. You
sound marvelous as usual. Thank
you. Please offer everyone in
the gizmo nation to double up
karma. We all need it this year.
John Adams very best to you and
your family's love is light.
Janice, the law of karma by
request. Karma.
Adam Curry: No people. Please
Please respect your fellow
producers. Your notes are
becoming long again. I'm gonna
have to start editing on the
fly. I don't like doing that you
should edit the way we edit.
Jennifer Wilson is in Calgary,
Alberta, Canada. Navia $500
executive producer. Hi John. I'm
okay. You both really know how
to make a girl feel ungrateful.
Geez. haven't felt that guilty
even after a bad date. I was
punched in the mouth on a road
trip to the Coots border with my
boss in support of the truckers
blockade. I guess he was sick of
me chatting in the hallway. So
we asked. Have you heard the
show? No agenda. I didn't want
to admit that. I'd never
listened to a podcast before you
guys had me laughing all the way
home to Calgary and now I listen
every show sometimes even twice.
I'm only asking for a 95% de
douching because I did donate
last year for Adam's birthday.
You spent 95% I was hoping the
same would come up in the
newsletter for JCD hell, maybe
it did. And I was so busy with
tax season I may have missed it.
I listened to every show
faithfully usually in the
mornings in the car. My son
thinks I'm crazy when I jump in
your conversation and make my
own comments. Or just start
laughing so hard listening to
the banter between the two of
you. I am quietly cheering John
on when he is right. Yeah. Well,
you know women like you better
we that's been established.
First. Oh, I have two comments
because I know John doesn't like
long notes.
John C Dvorak: The middle of
extremely long note first
Adam Curry: I know COVID has
pretty much overharvest prior na
shows pertaining to Alberta has
the highest unknown deaths in
Canada. He's very close to home.
Your June 11 Show was the one
year anniversary of my dad's
sudden passing. I believe it had
to do with taking three killer
shots. And I saw it as a no
agenda sign to donate in his
honor. I failed mainly because I
just couldn't find the words to
thank both of you for getting me
through the past year. I really
do hope the two of you have some
sense of importance to a very
large number of people keep
nagging the listeners. It will
pay off. We're not nagging.
We're just being transparently
honest. Second, John, I crack up
with every donation segment when
you must list the city and
towns. I just can't take it
anymore. The city in British
Columbia is Nan IMO Nanaimo.
Cheers, fellas, I greatly
appreciate what you do. Jennifer
Wilson. Thank you, Jennifer.
John C Dvorak: Well, I pronounce
it Nanaimo.
Adam Curry: It's not an IMO.
Yeah, well,
John C Dvorak: she where she
where she located in Alberta.
Well, that's nowhere near
Nanaimo. I live. I live within
driving distance to this little
town which is north of Victoria,
Canada on the island. And as far
as I know, everybody there
pronounces it Nanaimo.
Adam Curry: Okay? He will stop
making why argue with the
customer? I'm just saying,
because that's what we do is the
answer. That's your no agenda.
So that's
John C Dvorak: my answer. Yeah.
Vert, fuller, or word in
Batavia, New York for 1596. And
he wrote, I sent a check in and
wrote a little cute little note.
Cute little piece of paper with
a butterfly on it. Oh, how cute.
Again, I am sending you my state
license plate, which is 41596
Adam Curry: I like this idea.
John C Dvorak: It's a great
idea. There must be more New
Yorkers with a license plate
that ends in NA iOS is 41596.
And a well that means yeah,
there's got to be 1000s of them.
Yep. And there's got to be many
who are listeners of the podcast
hoping so hoping so I challenged
them to send the dollar value of
their license plate. For the
good of the show.
Adam Curry: I liked this
challenge. It's a good one.
John C Dvorak: This should make
me a knight. But what's more
important is you're here for me
twice a week with London was
London down the knighting list I
don't know.
Adam Curry: He or she words I
think word is
John C Dvorak: word dar IVIG
could be a sheet but
Adam Curry: handwriting looks
Hamlet handwriting looks like a
sheet to be honest. He did a
little bit work is not on the
list.
John C Dvorak: Oh good.
Adam Curry: So what do I do here
work fuller
John C Dvorak: but you're on the
list.
Adam Curry: Okay him or her?
John C Dvorak: Oh, well that's
okay. We have can't be put
around him or her on the list
that we need to get information
man. New information needs to be
coming to light Yeah.
Adam Curry: So we'll do it next.
Next show next show. I'm up.
Here we go. We have Troy
Peterson battlefield Missouri
three eight O dot O eight in the
morning gents halfway to
knighthood. I love you guys and
thank you for and thank you for
the best podcast in the
universe. 380 dot O eight is
boob augmentation. Thank you.
John C Dvorak: Maybe they missed
the mark.
Adam Curry: Yeah, it did.
John C Dvorak: Nathan try wig
trade. Nice. Nathan Trey wick in
San Antonio Texas. 34543 A
jingles? Dolly's got his jingle
request. Trump I'm coming whole
load bah Obama no and hot
pockets.
Adam Curry: That's it. Oh,
that's it. That's it. Oh, no.
Oh, yes. Okay, well, I can do
that. I'm
John C Dvorak: gonna come boy.
Oh, also goat karma.
Adam Curry: See? i You screwed
me your right all right.
Unknown: I'm gonna give you the
whole load today. I've been
watching you
I love you you've got
John C Dvorak: somewhat lewd
Adam Curry: it's not a it's not
like it's something new. You
know? Not like it's new. But
okay. Where's my ticket to the
bank? Here we go. Brian Wolf.
Thank you. Please do this while
I while I line them up.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, he's in Dix
Hills, New York. And he gave
3333 for the extra penny there.
This is the third consecutive
donation that brings me to
$1,000 and I couldn't be more
excited. I will be switching now
to a monthly donation to help
keep the support coming. Please
Knight me sir wolf pack altra.
And you're on the list and I get
a Shut up already. It's science,
which is an oldie. Obama take
that to the bank. Lone Wolf. And
our two d two karma. Thank you
for your courage. Already. Take
that to the bank.
Unknown: You've got
Adam Curry: 333 from Ryan George
and 33 cents our favorite. He'd
like to make a switcheroo
donation for a smokin hot
girlfriend Danielle Doherty Your
wish is my command Danielle will
get the credit for this no
problem. She said Horowitz makes
too it takes too many days off.
Donate to no agenda. I'm looking
at is that is that what it is?
With? switcher route switcher.
Oh, can I have a Boom shakalaka
sorry, Andrew. She says he says
I should say okay, Danielle,
Danielle. I
John C Dvorak: wouldn't worry
about he doesn't listen to the
show. He does, too. He listens
all the time. Jeff Green does
for sure because he gave us
333 30 threes in Sweetwater,
Texas, and he wrote another note
on a piece of paper. He wrote it
by hand. Oh Our Executive
Producer Jeff Green Sweetwater,
I Miss Adams. Quote, Adam reads
his Facebook comments By the
way, guess who else misses that?
Me? Adam, please find an
equivalent bit. I've been a
douchebag since show one. Oh, I
bet felt sad imagining life
without no agenda. You go you
all the best. Please de douche
me.
Unknown: You've been de deuced
John C Dvorak: and he wants
these clips. Please don't eat
me. Bow Jaiden which is what it
really is Trump they took dumps.
And Lady. That's true love Jeff.
Adam Curry: Is it? Is it the
bhoga? It will because there are
two there's the bo Jo there
John C Dvorak: is an eat me Bo
Jaya Joe Biden when they play
that one. Sorry.
Adam Curry: Yeah, well, no. And
I want to kind of play both of
them. Why not? Here we go.
Unknown: Again, they call him
dumps big, massive dumps. That's
Adam Curry: true. You go there
you go. Beautiful little
sequence.
John C Dvorak: I read Carmenere
at the end. There is now
Unknown: you've got karma.
Adam Curry: Notes. So long
people I'm just saying now is
actually a short note. Kelly
Allison is not short. In the
morning, this is 269 Associate
Executive Producer cash is king
for now and my husband and I are
big proponents of using it
everywhere and often. One, one.
John C Dvorak: Okay, I I should
probably discuss this. So a box
comes in the mail with a couple
of cans of soda. Which one of
them sounds terrific rose
flavored sparkling water. And a
pile of ones $1 bills a pile?
Like like 200 of them like a
dump, like big dumps like a big
giant dump. And fives and I'm
thinking is this a stripper that
is sending this money? And her
name is Kelly Allison was kind
of provocative. I have no idea.
But she's Mimi does the same
thing was she and she's not a
stripper. She said when she sees
one, she puts them in a pile of
ones. And so there's this huge
just like people who saved their
change in a giant bottle.
Adam Curry: Maybe that's what
habits her husband's stripper
cache, you know that he
John C Dvorak: was they'd keep
it while he was gonna do one of
those guns he was gonna use. All
right. So do you want to
continue reading?
Adam Curry: Okay. One of our
favorite ways to save money is
to squirrel away one and $5
bills at the end of each day
into a giant mason jar. This is
not a bad idea. Every six weeks
or so I pull out the cash sort
and stash you'd be surprised how
quickly it adds up. And most of
the time you don't even miss the
money rather than adding this
latest. Something to our little
nest egg. I have decided to send
it to you guys instead. I could
have deposited the money and
donate via PayPal. But where's
the fun in that no jingles just
a jobs coming from my husband.
And if John could sing could say
I've got hairy legs. That will
be great. Thank you for your
courage Kelly Allison Concord,
North Carolina.
Unknown: I got hairy legs, jobs,
jobs, jobs and jobs. Jobs
John C Dvorak: All right, onward
with sure ever have the what our
buddy comes in with 234561 of
our favorite donations from
Lynwood, Michigan and has
probably the best note of the
day.
Adam Curry: I think so too.
John C Dvorak: And he says Hi,
Adam Curry: and hi back to you.
Amy Dawn Greensboro, Georgia to
3395 in the morning, thanks for
making the propaganda news
digestible with a hilarious
twist. DMCC hit me in the mouth
in early 2020. This show has
saved my sanity because they
felt lonely in my thinking
during the scan Demick before
becoming a faithful listener.
Got a lot of notes like this
greatly appreciate your
deconstruction of the Media
Spokes holes and smear their
bull crap all over television. I
refuse to be programmed. I was a
total douchebag for the first
two years so I felt the call to
make up for it when it hit me
how much value I received from
this show. I mean at 2k Plus
since October last year, so I
might be a double dame. Well, a
double Dame is a bear Netis No,
is that what is what is to
Baronet test I'm pretty sure
that a thing anyway hopefully
I'm officially de douche
Unknown: de deuced
Adam Curry: and I've made good
for my many months and mooching
off other producers it's makes
you feel good. Doesn't it I wish
now to be referred to as Daim.
AMS AMS WM AMS hope that's right
Dame AMS of Lake County country
and will probably take my seat
at the roundtable protein chic
shakes and Spanish octopus for
all okay she and then she says I
need to lay off the martinis
jingles obviously drunk one on a
rig and present karma for all no
again the slave lovers late Dame
100 frickin
Unknown: percent you've got
karma
John C Dvorak: to Ramji caner
buddy and Brookfield Wisconsin I
could do 3456 He's the one I
used to distribute see no
Adam Curry: agenda CDs remember
those? I still have them. I
still find them all over the
place.
John C Dvorak: They're like AOL
discs. Yeah. So Ramsey Kane here
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Adam Curry: Sir leaks furious
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number stations for sure today.
In The Morning John and Adam
this donation brings me to
$2,000 I don't know what that
means at the roundtable Baronet
but it doesn't matter I request
some F cancer from my good
friend's wife Paige thanks for
your courage surly furious
Unknown: you've got karma
John C Dvorak: the random check
came in from James Lee from
Oregon Owensboro Kentucky two
two 2.33 and give him a double
up karma
Unknown: you've got karma
Adam Curry: sir Scott West
Columbia South Carolina. Two Oh
2.0220202 Attention South
Carolina. We have a meetup
scheduled for Sunday in
Charleston see no agenda
meetups.com For more info I also
also know we have listeners
towards the middle of the state
so if you're one of those and
would like to have a meet up
closer to home get in touch with
me on Mastodon at max burn at no
agenda social.com mx b You are
insincerely sir Scott. And he
also interestingly enough
request Trump's 100% 100 frickin
Unknown: percent
Adam Curry: you got it that's
that's a good way to advertise
your your Meetup by the way.
John C Dvorak: Very smart count
is Kim and Hubbard Oregon 200 or
69 says is switcheroo Happy
Birthday Zoo. Best stepmom in
the universe can she please get
a biscuit for her birthday? They
always give me a biscuit on my
birthday. And some are two d two
karma all credit goes to her
night. Dame hood counos Kim keep
her oh she's the keeper the neti
fluffers
Adam Curry: right but do I just
say happy birthday to we'll just
be the best step is the
switcheroo on the house. Best
stepmom in the universe. Is that
what I put in there? As the
credit Yes. Yeah, I mean she
didn't give a name so that's a
week that's what we'll do. We
just want to make sure we would
do it right there and she won
RTD to karma we got there for
you.
Unknown: You've got karma
Adam Curry: Okay, we have sir
Matt Johnstown, Pennsylvania
$200 Associate Executive
producer in the morning get my
nation has been a bit since my
last donation I hope it can be
forgiven. I was slightly dying
know what kind of excuses that
had a minor bout. Yikes. Come
on, man. Come on. You have a
John C Dvorak: minor bout of
severe liver failure.
Adam Curry: Yeah, well, that's
what he had. They aren't.
John C Dvorak: And they're not
100% sure why that's great.
Adam Curry: But lucky enough had
a successful transplant and I'm
getting better. Congratulations.
The no agenda show was often
playing in my hospital rooms and
is our constant roadtrip
companion when traveling for
checkups? Yes, I want to say in
the morning to Neil and his
family and Seamus they're
traveling back from their
checkup. To complicate things my
keeper and my new niece's niece
was born four days before my
surgery two months premature,
but she's doing great and
finally home with her family.
Few requests double health karma
for myself and my baby Mia to
keep us both going strong,
double birthday karma for oldest
neath montanes Molly from Uncle
Matt and on Sarah for July 29
and myself on the 30th finally
dealer's choice for an
appropriate jingle for my keeper
Sarah. She's literally helped me
keep me alive throughout this
time, so make it a great one. No
pressure though. To wrap it up.
I encourage everyone to help
each other out from just
donating blood to considering
donating part of your liver to
someone who needs it fun science
fact, your liver will actually
grow back if you donate part of
it. Well, that's a fun fact.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, of course
it was amazing.
Adam Curry: Yeah, the livers
good do tasty too. Thanks Adam
and John for going on this
journey with his fava beans with
fava beans sir Matt defender of
inappropriately time sarcasm and
well donating his love and I
have a double up karma for you
why because donating is you've
got
John C Dvorak: a we go is Linda
lapad kin in Lakewood, Colorado
200 bucks and she wants to wish
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Unknown: Jobs, karma
Adam Curry: and our final
Associate Executive Producer,
but where we actually read a
note comes from surfer and
surfer had a very interesting
little note he says in the
morning, John and Adam, please
credit the Associate Executive
Producer ship to Mr. Dana
Brunetti, governor of El Dorado.
These are big Hollywood big week
up there. These switcheroo
donations will continue until
John gets a bit part.
John C Dvorak: This is
interesting for the subtext of
the fact that Brunetti hates the
idea of being an Associate
Executive Producer I think
that's that's why an extreme I
think that's why you don't even
know how much he hates it unless
you know the guy.
Adam Curry: I think I have a
feeling this is probably the
best way to get you a bit part
ever. I have a feeling I he's
not
John C Dvorak: producing
anything. He said, you know,
made his two. Yeah, he is. You
know, this is actually a pretty
good method. Yeah, I have to
agree. This is not a bad idea.
Well done. Let's see how long it
goes before Brunetti chimes in
surfer
Adam Curry: black Baron of the i
Four corridor lovers Liddy says
no jingles no karma thank you
all very much for supporting the
no agenda show you all came
executives and Associate
Executive producers came out in
in droves today we appreciate
that. We have more people to
thank in our second segment the
show is going to go long
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Unknown: is this. We go out for
yet people in the mouth
Adam Curry: is the climate
monster knocking? Is that what's
going on?
John C Dvorak: That's my guess.
I have some tick tock clips.
Wait,
Adam Curry: don't we do ISOs
John C Dvorak: we do a second
second segment.
Adam Curry: I'm confused. Yes.
You got ticked what you? What am
I talking about? Let's go
straight to the good stuff. tock
tick tock.
John C Dvorak: Yeah. All right.
Here's I got four. I think three
of these are really good.
Adam Curry: Is the sound okay,
because sometimes the sound is
so bad. No, I
John C Dvorak: do as well with a
bad sign. And I ran it through
Adobe and it cleaned up like a
champ. Okay, in fact, I'll play
that one right off the bat,
because we talked about summer
camp earlier. I didn't know
this. Sorry. Sorry. Sorry. Yeah,
there's queer summer camps.
Unknown: So big is not the
biggest question that we've been
getting is how do you become a
counselor at a queer summer
camp? An easy answer is there's
an application that goes online
in like April and then they
interview you and then you get
hired. What I think is important
to note is that I swear it was
harder to get hired here than it
was to get into grad school. Not
only do we have to like build
and design unique and original
workshop content, I'm doing
three on blackout poetry, flash
fiction and trans masculinity.
Campers get here this afternoon.
But I've been here for three
days, we've had anti racism and
anti bias training and mental
health screenings, neuro
diversity training way more than
I've ever done for public
education. Because we take the
health, safety and growth of
these kids very seriously. I am
surrounded by some of the most
capable people I've ever met.
We're here to support future
queer leaders and they need
guidance that knows what they're
doing. And will I be in drag for
a significant portion of the
week? Also? Yes.
Adam Curry: Wow. So do we know
the location of said queer camp?
That sounds like a interesting
little place to visit.
John C Dvorak: I don't know the
location, but I'm sure deep
search will find it and there's
probably more than one. And I'm
guessing they're in New York.
work,
Adam Curry: I'd like to point
out that the Netherlands was one
of the first real with Berlin
but Amsterdam, certainly one of
the first cities that that
regularly did Pride Parade,
which was first it was pride
than it was gay pride. And this
year, they have changed it from
a parade to not just one week,
but to two weeks of pride. And
it's no longer called gay pride.
It's called queer and pride.
Listen to this capture. And this
is the slogan trans lives
lesbian lives, gay lives,
refugee lives, Muslim lives,
disabled lives all matter. I'd
say that this has gone a little
bit beyond they've they've shot
past the mark on this,
John C Dvorak: you just keep
when you're shooting past a mark
and nobody cares. You just keep
doing it. Now here is a queer
character. Telling sis this is
if you starts off if you are
sis, that would be you and
Adam Curry: me. And yes, I
reject any categorization but
I'm okay. I
John C Dvorak: agree with that.
But but it's directed at what
this person perceives as
anything but him or her. And
what you should be doing for
this person.
Unknown: If you're Sis, I want
you to message the trans person
in your life and ask them what
is one thing that you can do to
lighten their load this week,
whether that be grocery
shopping, or folding laundry,
just ask the trans people in
your life if there's a task or
something that you can offer
them to help with the burden
that we're carrying, because
we're having to deal with all of
this stuff right now? Well,
having to deal with all of the
life stuff that we regularly
deal with, and the regular life
stuff that we deal with is life
stuff. And then there's
transphobia and living as a
trans person in the world. And
then there's what's going on
right now, which is all of that
combined, and then send that
trans person $5 So they can get
themselves a treat.
Adam Curry: A treat. Treat a
treat. Well this started with
send a black person money.
That's what this started with
John C Dvorak: was a good bit if
you want to you know solicit
random money from people that
don't know who you are. Okay, so
that was that guy. Now I have
Adam Curry: now you're playing
these clips for what reason just
to set me up or or
John C Dvorak: set up okay. Now
it's just to get these out of my
I'm getting sick of these clips.
That's why now here's a here's a
person describing and then
somebody suffering from this one
is an absolute killer. When you
dis for dysphoria,
Unknown: Hi, my name is Kang and
I'm a non human alternate the ID
system and I'm making a Discord
server for people who experience
wing dysphoria is of course open
to systems with non human head
mates. And it is also open to I
think they're called wincon.
literally anybody who
experiences wing dysphoria, but
PCU there are folks who are
experiencing dysphoria and who
get the Phantom wings. I know we
are all familiar with the
feeling of needing to stretch
our wings and not being able to,
but is it as common of an
experience to feel like you have
water on your wings like feel
like your wings got wet, and you
need to like flush them up and
shake the water out. And you
can't and it's frustrating.
Adam Curry: Wow, man, I'm
actually more on board with a
wing dysphoria than than
anything else. I mean, yeah, I
can I can feel you with your
wings. Yeah, that doesn't seem
weird.
John C Dvorak: Doesn't seem
weird. Brother. Okay, I got Why
do one more. Okay. And this has
got nothing to do with queers or
winged dysphoria or if you're
sis. This is just some self
absorbed woman who is a dick.
bitching about the fact that
people shush her, I guess when
she's at the movie theater
because she likes to yak during
the movie, so no one else can
hear the damn movie.
Unknown: We need to talk about
this. I'm about to go to a movie
and it made me think like,
people say, Oh, if you want to
talk during a movie, you
shouldn't go to the cinema.
Lies. If you don't want to hear
people talking during a movie,
you shouldn't go to the cinema
because like, isn't the whole
thing about watching something
with other people in the same
room to like, experience it
together and laugh and scream
and have full on analysis is
about the characters like walk
you're watching it. If you want
to sit in silence like a fucking
stone. Just go home and Yeah,
sorry, I'm that person. I am
that person. Take me to fucking
jail. I'm gonna be disrespectful
every time because I will. I
will say things I will say
things during the movie I will.
I will say a lot of things
during the movie yum, yum, yum.
That's me. And that's just what
it should be like, I feel like
we should change the culture
around going and see a movie. It
should always be Chitty chatty
in the cinema. That's just my
opinion.
Adam Curry: Man, why do you
torture yourself watching this
stuff? I really don't. I don't
understand it. I mean, you get
all pissed off about it. And
then you torture us with it.
This is not fun. Don't do this.
This,
John C Dvorak: this is good
material. It's not good. These
are people. These are real
people out there in the public
roaming around you walking right
by one right now, if you're
listening to this thing on on
headphones. I'm telling you,
it's depressing.
Unknown: And now it's time for
our trans mouse agenda. destruct
initiated.
Alright, how about that?
Adam Curry: You'd like that a
bad? Wait, good. I have
different versions. So that's
the woman tell me if you'd like
this one.
Unknown: Trans Maoist agenda
initiated.
Adam Curry: So we have that and
then we have a more traditional
kind.
Unknown: Now it's time for our
friends and allies to self
destruct initiated.
Adam Curry: And then this has to
be my favorite. Now it's time
for our
Unknown: trump smiles
agenda. District initiated?
Adam Curry: Which one do you
like the best?
John C Dvorak: Number three,
Adam Curry: the DJ voice? Yeah.
Mo, sorry, I don't agree.
Anyway, this time,
John C Dvorak: what do you want?
Why are you even asking me?
Adam Curry: Because I want you
to feel loved. So, you know, I
have to go see this Barbie movie
now because I'm getting all
kinds of notes from people that
it's not part of the trans mouse
agenda. In fact, that seems to
be anti that so I I'm very
confused by the notes. You were
sending me it seems to be
polarizing people can't quite
get a handle on what it isn't.
There's no agreement, even
amongst our producers, which I
find is interesting.
John C Dvorak: Well, then you're
gonna have to be the arbiter of
that movie.
Adam Curry: Yes, I will. Yes.
Correct. And I'm very sad to
hear this because that means I
have to go see this movie. I
will not go see Oppenheimer
though. I'm not gonna see that's
too long. I don't have time for
that too long. He has time for
it. All right. Now I do have an
trans mouse update. Because all
of this stuff you're hearing and
John's tick tock clips, stems
from a not just national but an
international debate about Trent
medically transitioning
children, non adults, and in the
United States. Many states have
made laws and say no, you can't
do that. And some have been
overnight trans. So yes, it's
it's genocide. Oh, of course.
And CBS Face the Nation had a
rare moment of having an anti
trans and a pro trans person on
if you want to categorize it
that way. But again, it's it's
about administering drugs and
surgical procedure to young
people. And the question is, is
the science settled on this? I
think that's probably the best
thing we can discuss at this
point. And how bad is it? How
many people need this? Why is
this happening? What's going on?
What is going on? And this was
fascinating they had on Governor
Spencer Cox, he is from
goodness, where's he from? I
want to say, I can't remember
what state it comes up in the
interview. And he is he wants to
hit status, restricting gender
affirming care, which is how
they categorize it or IE,
administering testosterone or
estrogen puberty blockers to
either young boys or young men,
because a therapist has told
them that they are probably the
opposite gender, and they're
confused. And here's his take on
Unknown: it. I want to ask you,
again, on the topic related to
kids, there are 18 different
states that have now enacted
laws that restrict in some way
access to gender transition CARE
for Kids
Adam Curry: just love the gender
transition care for kids. I
mean, it's almost a bumper
sticker.
Unknown: In Utah, you have said
that you are just pausing access
to that kind of care, you're not
banning it. Do you have an end
date to that pause? What
specifically is the kind of data
and research you need to see to
say, you will allow for
yes, we don't have an end date.
But we we do need more data and
more information. And the
legislature has been clear on
that. Ultimately, the
legislature would have to run a
bill to unpause that depending
on what that you know what that
data comes back. I've been very,
very vocal about this. This is
such a charged topic, that it's
been it's been impossible, I
believe to get good information
here in the United States. Right
now, because half the country
doesn't want to touch it, and
the other half is convinced that
they already know the answer.
And so I've really tried to look
elsewhere at conversations that
are happening in other
countries, specifically in
Europe around around this where
it's not quite as charged,
looking at at Sweden and Finland
and France and the UK, other
countries where they don't have
the same culture war battles
that we're having here, where
it's, you know, it's either too
political or, you know, you
can't say anything about it, to,
to see what they're finding out.
And they're also pushing pause.
I mean, many of those countries
are saying, what we're,
this is specific part of it.
Treatment, puberty blockers,
surgery,
ballers all of the above.
Adam Curry: And I'm very happy
that that CBS had this this
governor on because that is
correct. That is the truth. The
truth is going to of course,
they put him first Don't worry,
the fun is coming. Now, let's
talk about and again, he speaks
truth about the organizations
that are driving this not the
pause. But driving the
transition,
Unknown: the American Medical
Association, the American
Psychiatric Association, the
American Academy of Pediatrics
have said, this kind of care,
that they've rejected the claims
that it is harmful.
Yeah. All very political groups.
And I don't I believe that they
are politicized. Those groups
are politicized
and don't get Academy PD, I
absolutely do.
Yes, yes. On this issue. It it's
impossible to get unbiased
information out of the United
States right now on this issue.
I just don't believe it. So. So
that's why I've been looking
elsewhere and looking at
scientists elsewhere who have
said, Look, yet we have some old
data. Dutch study, many, many
years ago, looks absolutely
nothing like what we're seeing
today. And and we have not
looked at the long term impacts
of these hormone blockers, we
have not looked at the long term
impacts of these surgeries. And
we don't have enough data to
support moving forward right
now. So that's what we're asking
for. So we're working the
University of Utah and other
organizations out there that
will be compiling research
that's being done all across the
world, looking at the very best
and and latest data will present
that to the legislature and then
they'll make the decision going
forward.
Adam Curry: I'm glad that
someone is doing this. And the
speaking truth. There are no
long term studies. It's all from
research based on 2019. And it's
just ghoulish what is being done
without any long trip. Forget
the reason why. And these
politicized organizations, just
because you have American
pediatrics doesn't mean that
you're that you're that you're
speaking truth or basing it on
science, but it's happening. So
just
Unknown: on the numbers of 73
million children in the US there
were just 56 genital surgeries
related to dysphoria between
2019 and 2021. According to the
study by Comodo, health
embroiders you have
the numbers on, on on hormone
therapy, and, and and in those
ad blockers, whatever the number
is, they're exploding. We went
from, like 1010 years ago to
several 100 This past year. I
mean, those numbers and again,
this is in Utah
alone. Yeah. Why do you think
it's happening in Utah? Like
that's it's happening
everywhere? And that's what
people are trying to figure out?
Absolutely. Yeah. You don't know
what strike? Well, that's that's
what the scientists in other
countries are actually trying to
figure out where in the United
States, we're putting our head
in the sand and saying, we're
not even going to talk about
this or look about this, you
can't even have a discussion
about it. In other countries,
they're saying something is
happening. Again, going back to
this Dutch study, there were a
few people, mostly males
transitioning, they didn't have
any other mental health issues
at the time. What we're seeing
now is hundreds 1000s, and
hundreds in my state 1000s all
across the country that are
making requests for this. And
they have their they're
presenting with several other
mental health issues as well. So
again, totally different than
the study that all of this is
based on. And and this is the
question, this is what we're
trying to figure out. Why are we
seeing this explosion in so many
countries and really kind of
developed countries? We're not
seeing this in in in undeveloped
countries? Why are we seeing
this tremendous increase? What
what is it that's driving it?
Is? I mean, is it gender
dysphoria? Is it something else?
Is it a mental health issue? Is
it is it is it some sort of, you
know, this social media trend
that is driving some not all is
what is it this order today,
this moment in time, where we
are seeing this explosion, what
the data is hard, I mean, the
numbers we saw the trend is
definitely up but they're still
pretty small in terms of
surgeries and mastectomy in
terms of surgeries, data, yeah,
the other data and you can look
anywhere. This is not unique.
Yes, there are a lot of
surgeries happening, but the
trend it's not just it's Have
exponentially it's it's it's a
hockey stick increase
it's still a small percentage
though but but I hear your point
I'm wanting Hold on a
John C Dvorak: second yeah I you
know there's a thing about
pension sales they run into this
a lot where you kind of mimic
the person is talking to you in
such a way that you develop a
rapport yeah mirroring
mirroring, mirroring this guy
such a stammer and stutter
starts to stutter she's doing
it. Yeah, he does have the
data's not a good representative
for this side of the argument I
think he's put there on purpose
because of that.
Adam Curry: Interesting point.
Okay,
John C Dvorak: well are better
speakers on this topic than him?
Adam Curry: Well, they brought
in exactly the right person to
speak on the other side of the
argument. Marci Bowers, we've
heard from Marci Bowers before,
Marcy is a gynecologist, surgeon
who specializes in gender
confirming surgeries, viewed as
an innovator in gender
confirmation and affirmation
surgery, and is also the first
transgender woman to perform
such surgeries. So she's not
only the president, she's
client, was that Hair Club for
Men? Yeah. And she's going to
refute all of this, with I
think, very flimsy arguments.
Unknown: We're joined now by Dr.
Marci Bowers, she is a surgeon
and one of the nation's leading
experts on gender affirming
health care, also the president
of the World Professional
Association for Transgender
Health, which sets global
standards for care for doctors
in the field. Brother, thank you
for being here.
Thank you, Margaret, for having
you. Back it up. I
John C Dvorak: want to get the
name of that organization.
Unknown: Thank healthcare, also
the president of the World
Professional Association for
Transgender Health, which sets
global standards for care for
doctors in the field. Do you get
it? Kind of? Thank you for being
here. Thank you, Margaret, for
having a we've you've heard our
guests talk about transgender
issues in the political sense.
We've now seen 21 Different
states pass laws restricting
access. And so I want to
understand a little bit more
about what that access actually
looks like.
John C Dvorak: Stop. The use of
the term restricting access? Oh,
yeah, it's, it's a loaded term.
It's not what she should be
saying. It's like restricting
access to guns.
Adam Curry: Yeah, exactly. It's
the same language, of course.
Interesting. Okay. But I mean,
she's the media of the media is
pushing this. Yeah, it's pushing
it on people who are jacked up
on SSRIs. It's obvious. By the
way, I should mention, there's a
very interesting article in
vogue this month, titled What
happened to the male orgasm?
Men, young men, men are so
jacked up on antidepressants,
they can't orgasm, as we just
say, well know, they can get it
up, but they can't orgasm. This
is a known side effect, which is
not mentioned in the
commercials, by the way.
Unknown: You know, the governor
of Utah was here and said
there's an explosion in his
State of interest. Are you
seeing that as a doctor?
Yes, I mean, there has been an
increase in demand for services.
But keep in mind services. trans
identities have been with us
since the antiquities, I mean,
the time of the Bible and
literature and art history. I
mean, there's examples of people
throughout so experts feel that
the incidence is actually never
changed. And but what we are
seeing is more people feeling
comfortable coming out. That
explains the rise. So she,
Adam Curry: he the doctor is
saying, it's been around
forever. It's in the Bible,
please. I'd like to know where.
And it's since antiquity so
since forever, there have been
trans people. I'm sure that's
probably true. But it's not that
people are sai opt or drugged
out and convinced to do this by
therapists, typically young
people know is because we're
more free, we can come out now
we can say it, there's more
people who are not afraid to say
it.
Unknown: So there's a spectrum
here, though, from identity all
the way to surgery. So how
common is it with surgery? For
someone under the age of 18, to
be able to access it?
Access surgery really is not
done under the age of 18. Except
in severe cases? It's usually Oh
shit, it's
Adam Curry: total horseshit. And
even except in severe cases,
what does that have to be? What
does that what does the severe
case
John C Dvorak: I have no idea is
bullshit. Do the funny thing is
this came up at the dinner
table. This is a meme that is
out there and everyone believes
it. Even though there's example
after example, in fact, there's
a recent case that's just
cropped up with somebody suing
the dye for
Adam Curry: over a million
dollars for a million dollars is
low. Yeah, that's just the
start. Oh, yeah. The gun to the
head is coming.
Unknown: Surgery really is not
done under the age of 18. Except
in severe cases, usually top
surgery for trans masculine
persons. And even that is rare.
I think the estimates are
something like 57 surgeries
under the age of 18. Were done
for trans individuals this
Adam Curry: i Okay, well, isn't
that amazing? I know 5% of them.
Me. If it's really truly 57 I
know of 5% of these top
surgeries that took place. So
this has to be in Angular two
John C Dvorak: or three, you
know, two or three? Sure
Adam Curry: do. Sure do. Yeah.
15 year olds, by the way. 50
must have been severe cases.
Unknown: Oh, severe cases. Yeah.
Majority of people though, that
are that do identify as TGD or
transgender diverse ou t
Adam Curry: g d, transgender,
diverse a new one.
Unknown: Don't access even
medicine or surgery. It's just a
feeling of maleness and fino
femaleness that that differs
from their birth, assign gender,
and gender identity being
diverse has lots of inputs,
Adam Curry: birth, assign
gender, I have to read you this
quick note. From certainly my
friend and his wife went to an
ultrasound appointment. I
figured get one day she will get
a kick out of this. In his
words. We went had our 20 week
ultrasound today. And at the end
of at the end, the lady was
filling out the info boxes. And
when the sex box came up, she
said they don't fill that out
anymore. She was told to skip
that field. My friend sat there
telling himself not to say
anything. But he couldn't keep
his mouth shut. He continued.
You don't check the male or
female box? And she said we used
to but we were told not to
anymore. I'm not sure why
though. How about that? So
that's your you're getting
John C Dvorak: the point where
she did it in a Bombay accent?
Yes.
Adam Curry: I didn't want to get
all racial. But yes, well, I
Unknown: did say an entity being
diverse has lots of inputs, not
just hormones, not just
chromosomes, not assigned
gender, but but a variety of
inputs. And, and that reflects
the the the numbers but they're,
they're low. And they'll always
be low. The current estimates
are about 0.6% of the
population, which is about 1.6
million people might be as high
as two or 3%. But it'll never be
much more than that. The
majority of people identify very
comfortable with their binary
assignments. And but this is a
vulnerable population. That
deserves health care.
Adam Curry: Okay, 50. Go ahead.
John C Dvorak: It's 50. Almost
50x. Yeah, Jesus, just what
point oh, six, but it could be
2% Oh, crap.
Unknown: So it deserves health
care. There are other treatments
as well, hormone therapies, and
the like a lot of these laws
that are recently becoming are
taking hold are aimed at this
young segment of the population.
How much research is there into
the effects of puberty blockers
and hormone treatments of people
in this age group?
Right? Well, we have decades of
experience with with trans
treatment. Right. And and that
shows unequivocally that
treatment is beneficial. But in
this age?
John C Dvorak: It's a lie. It's
a lie. No, she's she's changed
the kind of the conditions of
the question. Oh, okay. She
asked specifically about young
people getting all these puberty
blockers and the woman she a
woman guy, I don't know what
this person is they them switch
the conditions of the question
to discuss what has been going
on for decades with trans people
not with kids?
Adam Curry: Ah, good catch.
Well, listen again. So
Unknown: it deserves health
care. There are other treatments
as well, hormone therapies, and
the like. A lot of these laws
that are recently becoming are
taking hold are aimed at this
young segment of the population.
How much research is there into
the effects of puberty blockers
and hormone treatments of people
in this age group?
Right? Well, we have decades of
experience with with trans
treatment overall. And and that
shows unequivocally that
treatment is beneficial. But in
this age group we are we've only
been treating with hormone
blockers, which is the point of
real controversy that that
people are after, since the late
2000s.
Adam Curry: Yeah, also not
really true. It's 2019 is where
this really started right after
COVID. When doctors were afraid
to talk about ivermectin and
we're told not to and now, the
therapists are told not this is
what you got to prescribe.
There's got to be diagnosis. And
a prescription of something this
is this is an untruthful person.
Unknown: But in that time there
has been research especially
from groups in, in the
Netherlands.
Adam Curry: Yes, which I've read
in English and in the
Netherlandish
Unknown: but increasingly here
Are as well and experience with
this in this, the results are
similar. We're seeing certainly
very high levels of
satisfaction, Improve Self
Esteem, reduce suicidality,
Adam Curry: reduce suicidality.
So.
Unknown: So they seem similar to
what we've we've already
witnessed in adult populations.
But the controversy is that I
think people feel like this
number is increasing, and it's
going to like, envelop their
children and, and spread like a
contagion, which is just really
a false narrative.
Adam Curry: And so now two
kickers so now she's gonna say
all well, you know, we didn't
really mean to say that. This is
not just was phony fake. And now
Now CBS does something good.
Unknown: You know, there has
been controversy regarding your
particular group, which sets
some of these parameters because
they removed age guidelines from
the surgery recommendations. Why
did you take the age guidelines
out?
Well, the point on that is that
first of all, the what was
leaked apparently, was the the
draft guidelines, which we were
Adam Curry: Oh, it was a draft
guideline that got leaked,
apparently, no, you're ghoulish
person going
Unknown: to consider younger age
groupings. But But the important
point is that, but that's not
important right now, like cares,
individualized. And so age isn't
really the issue. Generally,
it's adulthood, and except in
severe cases, and
Adam Curry: by want to know what
severe cases are now,
Unknown: you know, again, a
draft guideline means it gets
input from around the world,
with available science that that
provides input and consensus. So
this is where the W path
standards of care are all about
their consensus in science based
guidelines. Because and, and I
want to add, though, that, you
know, some people say the
science is settled, I never say
the science is settled, I really
feel like as science is always
evolving, medicine is always
looking for new input and new
data. But what we see is is
promising, and again, this very
small subset of the population
is is worthy of that care, and
it seems to be beneficial.
Adam Curry: Now, did I just hear
at the end here that okay, yeah,
we you caught us it was, you
know, we really want to do it on
young people. But it seems to be
good. The data's promising. Are
they still experimenting with
their decades of experience?
John C Dvorak: That's what I
need $2 million a person.
Adam Curry: Yeah, but it's 7
million over the lifetime final
clip about the political aspect,
which, of course, is why this is
in legislation and why we have
parties battling over this for
the trans mount society.
Unknown: One of the things that
we heard on this program from
the governor of Utah was that he
felt that some of the
organizations like even the
American Academy of Pediatrics,
were too political on this
issue. What science are you
looking at where you think the
politics aren't interfering?
Well, I mean, you know, what,
what the critics are looking for
is what they call Level One
evidence. Now level one evidence
would require a systematic
review of all randomized
controlled studies in this area,
and if you look anywhere else in
medicine, but half of what we
now accept as routine treatment,
in in any field is not guided by
level one evidence level one, it
was take, for example, cancer
treatment or cleft palate
surgery, diabetes care, none of
those have level one evidence
because to do so, you would have
to induce introduce a placebo.
In other words, a non treatment
of that group, but can you
imagine offering someone who has
cancer non treatment, you're
saying, unethical,
there's a different benchmark
you're saying is being applied
here, Doctor, thank you for your
explanations.
Adam Curry: I thought that was
fascinating. So basically, just
like COVID vaccines and all
vaccines, no placebo trial
because could you imagine how
horrible if you got the placebo
during a trial and there's no
placebo trials with cancer or
cleft palate surgery? Why why is
you bring so is there any is
there any level one evidence
being presented or or, or
studied for anything in modern
medicine? It doesn't sound like
it. Even weight loss surgery or
weight loss drugs like ozempic
No, they just don't do it
anymore. People were under
attack from the pharmaceutical
industry
John C Dvorak: Well, this is
kind of interesting that this is
continuing is going to be I
don't know where it's gonna peak
is gotta peak is going to have
You have the anti trans view of
queer
Adam Curry: yeah you have the
answer when these when they do
when they get when these poor
kids start shooting doctors in
the head yeah well
John C Dvorak: that's yeah that
can be yours
Adam Curry: we have the first
lawsuits that's just the
beginning I think it's much
closer than than we realize this
is coming to maybe I sure hope
John C Dvorak: it's the
definitely the age group that
especially the younger kids that
are have a violent streak so
we've already seen the violent
streak from that crazy boy turn
girl or girl turned boy or
whatever it was a girl turn boy
that which is I think is the
more dangerous one because
Nashville give a bunch of
testosterone to some poor female
who's not used to it next thing
you know she's shooting up a
school
Adam Curry: Yes. Anyway um, man
so
John C Dvorak: since a
quarterback Joe burrow down yes.
Like he was running a play in
his right leg it wasn't from the
shot.
Adam Curry: I think just briefly
I need to do something on Africa
because that's it's really
heating up in Africa and we have
I mean, this this is just okay,
let me I don't know what to do
to have Africa boots on the
ground, which I should it should
we take our final break and then
and do that some Africa stuff
because I think is really
important, because that's where
John C Dvorak: I think Africa is
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Sometimes you go days you will
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Adam Curry: do you have? A Well,
I've
John C Dvorak: got so cute.
Adam Curry: Whoo. That might be
good. That was so cute. Okay,
John C Dvorak: and internet.
Unknown: God, the internet is
just like a crazy mess right
now.
Adam Curry: I'm not crazy about
either one of them
John C Dvorak: wasn't loaded up.
Adam Curry: I think we should do
so cute. It was so cute. So
cute. So cute. So cute is good.
Alright. Alright, Africa,
because it's important to get
this in because that's the new
territory. And I'm just looking
at Ukraine. And the port of
Odessa keeps getting bombed they
say by Russia, which I think is
true, because from our analysis,
I have a feeling that the
weapons are just, they're just
all being shipped down from
Odessa down to Africa, under the
guise of its grain, just grain.
That would be the only reason.
And it makes sense. Yes. And so
Russia now is Putin Putin
specifically has kind of done a
check move. I don't know if it's
checkmate. But he's saying Don't
worry about it. Don't we don't
have a grain deal. You're not
going to get that grain from
Ukraine. No Ukraine grain don't
worry about we're gonna take
care of us.
Unknown: Vladimir Putin says
Russia will provide free grain
to six African nations in the
coming months. The Russian
President made the promise
during a summit with African
leaders in St. Petersburg, that
Moscow recently withdrew from a
Black Sea deal that had allowed
Ukraine to export much needed
supplies to the continent.
Russia's decision has pushed up
global grain prices again and
further threatened food security
in parts of Africa. But as the
word delay is only five years
speaking at the summit, Putin
said his country would
compensate for the lack of grain
making its way to Africa.
Our country is ready to make up
for the Ukrainian green, both on
commercial basis and free of
charge to those countries in
Africa that are in dire need,
especially since we expect a
very cold high harvest this
year. And we will ask for the
specific details. I should like
to say that in the near months,
three, four months, we would be
ready to provide to Burkina Faso
Zimbabwe, Mali, Somalia, the
Central African Republic and
Eritrea. Ready to supply 2050
It's all done tons of rain to
each ensure free shipping of
these cargo.
Adam Curry: Free Shipping. He's
like Amazon is the Amazon of
grain free shipping and free
shipping. So that's an
interesting move. Now it's not
all the African countries that
have issues with food. But we
got a note from one of our
producers and this is a boots on
the ground that blew me away. I
just want to read it because
this will give you a much better
idea of what is happening in
Africa, and why we need to keep
our eye on it. This is from
absurd Captain red beard of the
Space Coast. Your recent
coverage of the activity in
Africa caught my attention as
I've spent a significant amount
of time I'm there in support of
certain three letter agencies.
By the way, we have the best
producers in the universe. My
most relevant trip was actually
in 2008 2009. One of my many
tasks was collect on the ground
intelligence information
regarding smuggling routes
between Djibouti and Khartoum at
the time cartoon kind of in the
news. At the time, Sudan was a
single country in 2011, South
Sudan became an independent
country. With the support of
Uncle Sam, we remember it well.
So apparently, the Intel
collection worked, those pesky
Muslims in Khartoum wouldn't
allow the West to stage any
goods or services in their
country. So we just made another
one that would support us.
Needless to say, su Don via
Uganda has been in play for a
long time, Uganda. Isn't that
interesting that we know from
the international arms dealer,
that the United Nations is
accepting military aircraft and
probably other weapons down
there sold through international
arms dealers. This effort
wouldn't have been possible
without the support of Uganda,
the West has pumped so much
money in goods into Uganda
during your weary Musa Benny's
reign. They're completely
dependent on the handouts, and
we'll do whatever we tell them.
There are many interesting
correlations between Uganda and
Ukraine. If you're looking for a
blueprint for upcoming
activities in Central Africa,
Africa, for example, the
presidents of both countries
have suspended elections and
made themselves de facto
dictators with the support of
the West. And Mussolini is
currently the president of
Uganda for life. He came to
power during a bloody uprising a
coup, but then again, that's how
most African leaders come to
power. Another interesting
comparison is the East African
Federation and the European
Union. When the global war on
terror, terrorism started, the
West was was keen to recruit
Uganda already part of the AEHF
to do their bidding in Somalia.
Another West Clark seven. This
seems eerily similar to what is
happening with Ukraine build up
a stooge to fight our proxy wars
similar to Poland in the EU. I
believe Uganda would be the
staging ground for any major
military activities in Central
Africa. My first trip to Africa
as was as a member of the
Combined Joint Task Force Horn
of Africa, CJ TF HOA. What
started as a small base in
Djibouti to fight in Somalia has
now turned to AFRICOM Africa
Command with headquarters in
Germany. A CJ TF doesn't rate a
whole lot of dollars in the
defense budget, but a major
combatant command like AFRICOM
can carry a huge purse. This
buildup has been slow and quiet.
Very interesting. sigh up rabbit
hole to go down is the Joseph
Kony 2012. Saga. Boy, do we
remember that one, John? Oh,
yeah. When there was a video all
of a sudden with 100 million
views overnight on YouTube,
which no one deemed possible.
Yeah, it wasn't.
John C Dvorak: It was a scam.
Joseph Kony
Adam Curry: is a brutal warlord
whose main business is raising
villages and creating child
soldiers. However, it's my
personal belief. He's a psyop by
the Ugandan government against
their own people to continue
their own version of the
military industrial complex. We
were fighting Joseph Kony and
the Lord's Resistance Army back
in the early 2000s. And now I
wonder if that was all in
support of the Sudanese Civil
War and splitting up that
country. There's another matter
of Chinese intelligence on the
Dark Continent, but I'm saving
that for my next email. Thank
you for your courage Captain red
beard of the Space Coast. So
makes total sense. And this is a
proxy war against Russia and
China and everything we can do.
John C Dvorak: Well, we keep
them busy.
Adam Curry: Did you have
something to say? Yeah,
John C Dvorak: I wanted to bring
in this as you brought up the
Ukraine and being some sort of
parallel what what do you think
the deal is with this it has not
been played up by anyone
including the BBC. Zelinsky
fires the UK ambassador.
Unknown: tensions rise as
Ukraine's President Volodymyr
Zelensky discharges the
country's ambassador to Britain.
This is days after the
representative publicly
criticized the President. The
sudden dismissal of Ambassador
Vadim Khristenko, also removed
him as Ukraine's representative
to the International Maritime
Organization, but Zelensky
didn't provide a specific reason
for the decision. The dispute
emerged when persico was
questioned about remarks made by
the outgoing British defense
secretary Ben Wallace, urging
Keith to display more gratitude
for foreign weapons assistance
in countering Russia's occupying
forces. In response to the
Lansky said we could get up in
the morning and express our
words of gratitude to the
minister prystaiko told Sky News
in a recent interview that the
Ukrainian President's remarks
contained a touch of sarcasm. As
of now there is no official word
I'm Pristiq goes replacement.
Adam Curry: What do you think it
is?
John C Dvorak: Well, I think it
has to do with somebody not
playing ball. It was our doing
to get rid of this guy. I'm
convinced of it. Yes would be
behind it. Unless you didn't
care if anybody he's heard these
complaints before they doesn't
thank Everybody enough isn't
necessarily fire him. She wasn't
a fire, you can't fire that that
person uses can rouse them, you
know, out.
Adam Curry: I have I have one
last clip that may shed some
light on where this whole thing
ends as we are on the wasn't the
78th anniversary of armistice
with North Korea. I think it's
John C Dvorak: a yes is suddenly
so there's a North Korean thing
going on.
Adam Curry: That's actually kind
of interesting because you know,
the North Korean War never
ended. It's you know, are
John C Dvorak: going on
literally I bet. In essence,
it's still in play.
Adam Curry: And what do we have
between North and South Korea?
John C Dvorak: A demilitarized
zone?
Adam Curry: Yes. And I think
this is really going to be the
final solution. There will be an
armistice between Russia and
Ukraine with a demilitarized
zone, which is an obvious no go
zone.
Unknown: So we've just been
hearing there. We're talking
about huge stretches of land
here. How challenging? Is it
going to be to demine all of it?
Well, yes, we did just some
estimates. This, you know, the
mighty area consists 160,000
square kilometers, which is
nearly half the size of the
country of Germany. And I just
heard recently that the figure
of almost 750 years that's been
cited that it would take to
fully demand the area the size
of Ukraine. This is unlike
anything that the world has
dealt with since World War Two.
And mind you Ukraine, up until
now has had been dealing with
demining leftovers from both
World Wars one and two. Imagine
it's taken decades and Jacobs to
deal with that. And now with
this really hot warfare, the
largest war based land based war
that Europe has had since World
War Two. The amount of work to
be done once the war is over is
staggering. And the war is
actually far from over.
Adam Curry: Yeah, the war will
never be over. It'll just be
armistice, and no one will be
able to go between those two
areas because it's just filled
with mines and cluster bombs and
unexploded shells and it's it's
a hellscape Yeah. What do you
think? I like it. The hellscape
or the No, I
John C Dvorak: like the thesis,
because there doesn't seem to be
any way out of this thing except
for that thesis and it did work
before with North Korea.
Adam Curry: And it's great for
the military industrial complex
you get to keep everybody scared
that Russia will do it again and
and we need to move to Africa
people. Gotta
John C Dvorak: give time,
different time to pick up time
to move on.
Adam Curry: Exactly. At least
that's what the curry Devorah
Consulting Group recommends.
Coming up next on no agenda
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I think they're fantastic. Oops.
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writes. He wrote a book called
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about how to make men gods. I
mean, like the whole idea is
just so out of this world, that
things that they are
experimenting with and want to
do in in reintroducing kind of
that, that eugenics movement
listen
into RFK on that XFL to to his
story of addiction and drugs,
your word is bond. Back slapping
is what I'm not hiding trying to
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strong legacy. See? I guess
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as Bob K Bobby The Q R K jus
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to now they call them anti Vax.
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your money where your mouth is.
Don't Penny pinch your treasure
or be so selfish to do some
value meaningful to you just put
it in a number controlling but
don't be my dude
is no longer something confined
to r&d labs and garage based
startups. They've heard that
some people think robots are
being Terminator like machines.
And then we have people like,
well, Elon Musk is very close to
cutting edge.
We should advise you however
that our preliminary findings
indicate that your onboard Niner
zero computer is in error
Adam Curry: identify malfunction
immediately
Unknown: on condition. Once
there is super intelligence, the
fate of humanity may depend on
what the super intelligence
does. That's amazing.
I was listening to a podcast
hosted by Adam curry and John
Cena artificial intelligence
will give us new jobs jobs jobs
it's going to be all right
again. Something happening over
here. Whoa,
it's likely rather to spoof
right by a no computer
Adam Curry: like is then go to
the end.
Unknown: I hope the two of you
are not concerned about this.
MOPO boruch.org/and That was so
cute.