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October 19th, 2023 • 3h 38m

1600: Unpack It

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Unknown: I'm Adam curry Jhansi Devorah
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Adam Curry: we're 1920 23 this is your award winning chemo
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nation media assassination episode 1600s This
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Unknown: is no agenda, celebrating
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Adam Curry: sweet 16 and broadcasting live from the heart
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of the Texas Hill Country here. Reason number six in the
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morning, everybody. I'm Adam curry
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John C Dvorak: in from Northern Silicon Valley where summer is
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finally here in October. I'm John C. Dvorak. Raglan Buzzkill.
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Yeah,
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Adam Curry: we did it once again. Happy anniversary, John.
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John C Dvorak: Happy Anniversary
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Adam Curry: Happy anniversary to all the producers. But it's not
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really the interface to 1600 anniversary.
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John C Dvorak: It's
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Adam Curry: 1600 shows. It's our anniversary week. Anniversary
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week. And we celebrate with our Oh, that's a really bad horn.
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Something's wrong with that horn. This is going off the
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rails.
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John C Dvorak: Do you remember a real one here somewhere?
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Adam Curry: Do you remember? When I wanted to quit it
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episode? 100.
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John C Dvorak: Oh, yeah, yeah, you was like this? Well, we got
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to show 100 I think Greg was a good run.
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Adam Curry: We had a good run.
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John C Dvorak: And then my comment was What are you nuts?
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Adam Curry: Now? You said, Come on, son. Stick with it. I'll
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make you rich. I'll make you leave your wife rich. And I left
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my wife but I didn't get rich. Yeah. You remember you said
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that?
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John C Dvorak: The I don't remember any of it. I just
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remembered that it wasn't going to happen. What wasn't going to
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happen? That you're going to quit and showed 100 now? No, you
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wouldn't let me you wouldn't let me then. You're a pushover you
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Adam Curry: know you even got me me on the phone and got her to
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Candela?
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Unknown: Yes, you do.
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Adam Curry: What do you mean? I remember.
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John C Dvorak: You gotta keep doing this show. I don't
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Adam Curry: know. That's not the way she said it. She said
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Please, I gotta keep John busy. Please keep
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John C Dvorak: that's always possible.
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Adam Curry: And I realized, you know, 1600 episodes and still
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people just you know, we've we've we've taught them nothing.
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They're all spun up in the world. Everybody's all crazy.
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It's
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John C Dvorak: 1500 or 1600 episodes of utility.
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Adam Curry: It seems that there you go. That is it. How utility
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John C Dvorak: show title if utility. Let me write that
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utility.
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Adam Curry: It's unbelievable. It really is. You know, it's
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like, I mean, we're all wars bad. But we've been through so
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many wars on this show. This one seems particularly polarizing.
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You know, you have to choose a side. You got to have an
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opinion. You got to let that opinion be known. That's for
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sure. Gotta let it be Buddha daddy opinion be known. Actually
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got a nice email from Tom.
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John C Dvorak: I have an opinion. What's your opinion?
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And I have clips to go along with my opinion.
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Adam Curry: Because I read this quick email from Tom. Yes. Read.
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Tom says, you know, I started listening. I started nafcu on
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Glenn Beck. I
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John C Dvorak: have a waiting list. Stop, stop. But is this
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nasty? Oh,
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Adam Curry: no, it's not. No, it's the opposite. It's
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John C Dvorak: open for a nasty Oh, no, it's
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Adam Curry: sick. No, that people stopped doing that. Like,
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when my email right Oh,
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John C Dvorak: you're gonna read it. I know. I
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Adam Curry: know. The One. The One the one person who sent me
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that short note like, Yeah, I'm done. Now then comes back and
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sends me did not everybody goes Eric,
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John C Dvorak: wasn't it? No.
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Adam Curry: Did not everybody get the 10 minute video of Hamas
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violence? I mean, that thing when that thing went viral has
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been pushed real hard. People just sending it to me. No
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subject here. Have a look at this. What do you call that?
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Like, yeah, I see horrible things. I see horrible things.
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Although actually, before you start before you start something
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someone pointed something out in that 10 minute video. This is
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the video where ultimately I think that one the guy who's
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filming it gets shot and dies. You've seen that one Haven't
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you? That's part of this 10 minute Compendium.
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John C Dvorak: I guess you have to we know for a fact that he
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got shot. You
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Adam Curry: know, we don't know anything. Of course. But in
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this, we get that straight. We don't know anything but in this
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video. The filmer of the video is holding an RPG at the
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beginning and then funny Where did that appear fell? Yeah, I
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wonder where that RPG came from? And he's playing a video game at
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the beginning. It's totally look like a video. All of these shots
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with the GoPro cams look like a first person shooter which, if
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not intentional, certainly is triggering a lot of gamers by A
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cool game. So he's on the back with his RPG. And one of our
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military people pointed out that there's a term used right after
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the RPG guy jumps the fence. I guess that would be part of the
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security checkpoint. If you can hear this at a certain point,
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the word send it send it or used to
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send it. Send it send it. Yeah. According to this, our military
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person here, boots on the ground, says that is completely
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American terminology for firing off the RPG send it send it. He
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says there's no similar word in Arabic. I think it sounds kind
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of like an American accent when you hear it. And his final, his
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final quote was, well, we'll be attacking Iran in five days.
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This is us. I don't know about that. But I just thought it was
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interesting to send it send it was in there.
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John C Dvorak: Kind of it's just part of the whole thing. Part of
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the whole thing. Exactly. The Iran thing was the is the right
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is the right pick. Yeah.
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Adam Curry: So here's just this one line from Tom. I was
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listening to Ben Shapiro every day as well see, see, this is
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what happens. Oh, my goodness. Ben Shapiro. Shapiro needs to
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listen to our show. He did a week of obviously pro Israel,
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Israel and reality on the ground as he was receiving photos and
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texts from friends of friends and family who were there. I
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have to admit, I was twisted around the axle when you all
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didn't take aside. But that's not your gig. I stayed with you
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through 1598 and then 1599 After listening to John's gig on
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Trump. Bibi hosed us and Hezbollah ain't dummies and how
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perverse and twisted day PBS NPR reporting on Trump. I got up out
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of the chair went to my 21 year old daughter and told her don't
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believe anything ever hits. So we've saved not just this one
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guy but his daughter as
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John C Dvorak: well. So well we saved him for the moment. Yes,
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you're
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Adam Curry: right momentarily. There's so many good people who
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who stuck with us through COVID Even could handle Ukraine. And
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then this one Oh, no. Now check it out. Now. Check it out. You
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guys are glib Cavalier laughing at death and destruction. Well,
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what can I say? What can I tell you?
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John C Dvorak: We're laughing at the reportage.
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Adam Curry: Exactly. The reportage the teta Tet the real
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professional. Sheesh, all of this all of this stuff. And and
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we are also here to calm you. Right? We're calm where we we
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intend to have a calming effect on you to renovate what is
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happening because you're in it. You're affected. You're deeply
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affected by these videos deeply. Yes, it's rich. Now this I have
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a lot of clips, I see that there's overlap. So I'll just
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let you go. If you
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John C Dvorak: really I want to do my may I'm gonna, I'm not
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gonna, well, maybe we can start with the summaries that are
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NBFCs NBC, I gave Garrett top summary NBC. Well, if you do a
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summary, I want to jump right from the summaries right to the
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thesis that we're going to Iran's a target onto
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Adam Curry: proof proofs. Oh, you bring Oh, you're like you
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you got proofs
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John C Dvorak: of proofs, proofs. Let's stop, stop, stop.
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Where do we stop the war word? Yes. Where do we start? Let's
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stop with this start with top summary NBC one
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Unknown: today President Biden was here in Israel standing with
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its people in the face of tragedy while across the Arab
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world anger rage protests from the Middle East to Europe. Some
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aimed at the US over the deadly explosion that a Gaza hospital
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that Palestinian health authorities say killed hundreds
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and Plame Israel is the culprit. President Biden however coming
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to Israel's defense
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Adam Curry: just want to stop here for one second. It's
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amazing that even our own no agenda nation are just going ape
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crap over the hospital. Unto you Nazis. The hospitals the whole
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point is, is to divide up my Lords This has got to be this
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gotta be there's gotta be no team, this team that team got to
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this point. It's the whole point of the thing people that's the
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whole point is to get you to do that. And we're falling for
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John C Dvorak: it saying he was I actually think it's got a
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bigger point. And
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Adam Curry: now I'm sure President Biden
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Unknown: however, coming to Israel's defense, saying he was
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deeply saddened and outraged by the explosion, before declaring
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it appears as though it was done by the other team, blaming the
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explosion on a failed rock It launched by terror group Islamic
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Jihad. Israel offering what it says is evidence it was not
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responsible. But pictures of children in Gaza being rescued
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from the rubble of airstrikes only hardening positions, as the
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American President sought to calm tensions over the October 7
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attacks here and avert a humanitarian disaster in Gaza.
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But the diplomatic ground shifting beneath the President's
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feet as he traveled here from Washington to a war zone
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overnight, as Arab leaders were dropping out of a plan summit
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meeting on the crisis. Here's where we start tonight.
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Adam Curry: I love I love all the military industrial complex
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dude showing up all gray hair. You know, some of them in a
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suit? Someone just probably put on the uniform. An explicit
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splaining okay, this is how a rocket works. This is why it was
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a rocket. It's like they just Oh, no, no, no, no, no. Let me
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explain how this works. People we have proofs. Yeah, that
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summit that kind of gets snowed under that. Was Biden seriously
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thinking that he would have some kind of summit that wouldn't be
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disturbed by I don't know a rocket.
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John C Dvorak: The rocket attack took place. This is all very
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convenient. By the way. Yeah. The rocket attack took place
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while he was in the air. Yeah, he had already the summers were
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all arranged. Yeah. So he's gonna meet here and there's
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gonna go to Jordan who's gonna meet this guy and that guy. And
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so do you ever?
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Adam Curry: Ever somewhat clip?
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John C Dvorak: No. Well, I don't I haven't.
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Adam Curry: I have an angle somewhat clip. Just explain who
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was supposed to be there. It might be helpful.
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John C Dvorak: Okay, because because I got angle stuff. Yeah,
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Adam Curry: I'm tied into my thesis. You're driving, you're
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driving. I just want I'm
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John C Dvorak: only driving so far, then you're gonna have to,
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you are holding
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Adam Curry: on to the wheel right now. Do not take your
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hands off at Stevie. Just Just a little background, because I
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thought this was this was not well explained anywhere. But of
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course, Richard Engel, did I want to
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Unknown: briefly turn to Richard, is that along the west
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bank there on this issue? That was not because of this hospital
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explosion at the complex, the hospital complex in Gaza. This
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this plan to meet with the leaders of Egypt, the
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Palestinian Authority, as well as the King of Jordan fell
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apart.
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John C Dvorak: Do you notice Hold on a second. Do you notice
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they all call it an explosion? Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yes, instead of
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attack or rocking?
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Adam Curry: Because that's the message they've been given.
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They're totally see, by
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John C Dvorak: the way, I should mention as you play this clip,
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I'm gonna have no I have backup clip to prove it. NBC is all in
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on the fact that Israel did the bombing, oh, MSNBC is
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Adam Curry: off the hook with us
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Unknown: plan to meet with the leaders of Egypt, the
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Palestinian Authority, as well as the King of Jordan fell
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apart. And the art of that meeting, Richard was to try to
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stop this from becoming a wider conflict in the middle of so we
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have before the President speaks. What are the prospects
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of that now?
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Well, now? Well, it
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was a disaster. They were supposed to be this peace summit
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with US allies, Mahmoud Abbas, the moderate leader of the
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Palestinians, in contrast to Hamas, the leader of Egypt, the
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King of Jordan, but after this hospital attack, the the those
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in attendance decided, in their words that it would not be
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productive to to hold the summit. But
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Adam Curry: that's interesting, because you hear you hear angle
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clearly saying not explosion after this hospital attack. So
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he is definitely not leaving any room for it to be a Hamas failed
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rocket launch. So there's backing up your NBC thesis,
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Unknown: Palestinians felt that they could not be there. We had
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Mahmoud Abbas, walk out of this meeting leave Jordan that they
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could not be seen standing next to President Biden, who's done
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nothing but support Israel give a full personal support
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expressing support of the United States is giving military
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support to Israel sending weapons here there are US
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military advisors on the ground. These leaders felt it this time
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after this incident which as Kelly was describing are under
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disputed circumstances couldn't be there sitting next to the
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President.
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Adam Curry: Hey man wasn't NBC owned by GE at one point am I am
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I am I mistaken that no you're not mistaken at all. Yeah,
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because they would not have done this this report back when GE
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owned them. I wouldn't think so. No Military Industrial Complex
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company Corporation. All right. Back to your thesis I'm sorry I
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just needed to
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John C Dvorak: do you want to interrupt all you can I just to
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go and I did takes me a little bit aside. I want to play I want
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to jump to clips there and I'm gonna go to this one because you
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just play that clip jump. That clip. Jump in the clip. This is
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the hospital NBC take side with Jordan.
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Adam Curry: Yes, I got it here. I got I got it
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Unknown: today. And now let's see Egypt's president will allow
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20 trucks of aid into Gaza. What he would do is open the gate The
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plan summit with Arab leaders in Jordan was scrapped after the
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hospital explosion and the announcement that Palestinian
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leader Abbas would not attend. Was there important work though
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that didn't get done the fact that summit didn't take place?
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A lot of important work. I mean, we all did. The only item in the
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agenda right now is to stop this this madness and stop the
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killing that civilians are paying the utmost price.
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Tonight, I spoke with Jordans Foreign Minister Ayman Safadi as
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you know President Biden, the US they take the position that this
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was not an Israeli strike, but the result of other Palestinian
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militants. Do you believe that to be the case?
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Sir, nobody's buying that that narrative in this part of the
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world the the reality does really harm us army is not very
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credible in this part of the world as well. The only way that
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people would entertain a different narrative is if there
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is an independent international inquiry into into into into the
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tragedy that has happened with impeccable evidence that it was
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it was not Israel.
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Adam Curry: Yes. And in the blue helmets, we need an
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investigation.
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John C Dvorak: Go to this clip now, which is hospital video
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timestamp.
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Adam Curry: Oh, yes. Oh, yeah.
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Unknown: President Biden's in Israel hours after Palestinian
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officials accused Israel of killing at least 500 people at
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Gaza's athlete Baptist Hospital and an airstrike. In addition to
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treating sick and wounded patients. The hospital was
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acting as a refuge for displaced Gazans fleeing Israel's
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unrelenting attacks. This is Mohammed Al Naka, a doctor at
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the hospital.
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lumea Munna Musa there was no warning before the hospital was
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targeted. There were about 3000 people who were taking shelter
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here while we were working at the hospital and without any
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warning there on 6:30pm. The hospital was targeted by
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shelling. We didn't know what it was, but we found out what it
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can do after it targeted children who were cut into
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pieces.
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guises Health Ministry said Israel told the hospital that
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had sent warning strikes one day before the deadly explosion. The
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UN has called for an immediate humanitarian ceasefire amidst
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international condemnation over the attack. Israel's denied
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responsibility blaming a Palestinian Islamic Jihad
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rocket. Israeli officials appear to have deleted a video posted
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on social media showing Palestinian rockets being fired
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after realizing the timestamp on the footage did not match up
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with the hospital attack.
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Adam Curry: Again this whatever you do, make sure you do
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forensic investigations on this hospital attack. Please, let's
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keep that go on people. This is good keep everybody occupied and
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John C Dvorak: less billing on this one more along this lines
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along these lines and then I want to add one comment and I
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want to get to the
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Adam Curry: clips. I'm ready. I'm waiting for you. Hospital to
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Biden
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John C Dvorak: canceled opinion.
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Unknown: A planned trip to Jordan as part of President
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Biden's visit to the Middle East was cancelled in the wake of the
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hospital bombing. Biden said he was outraged by the attack which
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constitutes a war crime but sided with Israel as he made
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remarks alongside Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu earlier
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today.
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I'm deeply saddened and outraged by the explosion at the hospital
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and Gaza yesterday. And based on what I've seen, it appears as
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though it was done by the other team not.
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Many have pointed out that militant groups and Palestine do
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not have the firepower to level a massive building. Israel has a
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history of lying about its responsibility against
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Palestinian civilians, including the murder of Palestinian
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American journalist Shireen a black lab last year, which it
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initially blamed on Palestinians. Israel apologized
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a year after her death man did
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Adam Curry: Amy just say those Jews be lying? Is that what she
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just said? Wow. Yeah,
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John C Dvorak: well, he had cutters lurking in that
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operation
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Adam Curry: gutter got her get it right. Gutter gutter. Yeah.
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All right. Take us back to the Okay. So
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John C Dvorak: let's go to now want to go to let's go to that
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this is my thesis is I've known to begin with 12345 clips, which
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kind of indicate that we are we sent the two carrier groups
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Strike Forces strike force to the areas we are going to end
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this the last two on the list of the of the West Clarke seven are
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Lebanon, Lebanon
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Adam Curry: and Iran, Iran and we have we have already prepared
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everything else right. We've got every other one including so
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more
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John C Dvorak: or less.
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Adam Curry: Syria, Syria.
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John C Dvorak: Come on, into Syria. It which brings us back
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to those hospitals for now. Who benefited from the hospital
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strike? Who bent up that's what you maybe logically fear who did
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the hospital strike by figuring out who benefited okay. And and
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on the surface it seems as if the beneficiary what are the
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Arabs because they get to use it as a talking point? Yes,
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Adam Curry: like they killed children. Right.
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John C Dvorak: But on the other hand, if Israel doesn't want any
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peace whatsoever, and they've been talking about saber
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rattling about Iran the whole time, wouldn't it make more
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sense for them to do it let the Arabs you know chirp about it
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and then meanwhile, plan to trigger Iran into doing
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something stupid. So we says we got to strike forces there we
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have to now we we the United States now have to put boots on
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the ground? Or is there anyone into who would indicate this
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kind of get me to give us a heads up because we look for him
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for kind of information that comes from the sources? Let's go
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to Richard Engel one Oh, I'm
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Adam Curry: sorry. I was starting with Richard angle one.
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Yes. Here we go. spook a boy.
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Unknown: Nice. The explosion that has shaken the Middle East
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New Video shows that deadly explosion at a hospital in Gaza
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City that reportedly killed hundreds and sparked protests
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from Iran to Yemen, to Lebanon, where demonstrators directed
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their anger against the United States, Israel's main backer.
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Security forces in Beirut used water cannons and tear gas to
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disperse crowds outside the US Embassy. The United States
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pulled out of it scores in the Middle East, but now could be
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heading back into work. In the West Bank, Palestinians today
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dragged out the barricades and slung rocks at Israeli soldiers.
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There weren't many, mostly teenagers, Israeli troops kept
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their distance. But when the stone throwers got too close to
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soldiers opened fire, sending medical crews rushing in. And
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here's one more injured being taken away. Israelis are picking
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them off with what appears to be rubber bullets at this stage. No
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one was seriously injured here today. But a new generation of
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Palestinians is taking to the streets. While Israel and Hamas
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are blaming each other for the hospital explosion. A new
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Palestinian uprising could be starting today. Our crew filmed
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at the Gaza hospital site. And so families collecting what they
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could from the debris.
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Adam Curry: All right, you rang your bell twice, a
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John C Dvorak: couple of hints there. There's going to be hit
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there using rubber bullets. Now was it for time being as a hint
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before that was there's going to be a wider war but he gets a
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little more specific here and clipped to
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Unknown: Iran, which backs both Hamas and Hezbollah is working
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to fan the rage even further Fanning. Ron's President calling
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on Muslim nations to isolate Israel, impose an oil embargo
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and bring revenge.
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Richer the size of those crowds you're seeing does say something
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about the impact of this hospital explosion.
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It may be that we're not millions of people on the
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streets across the Arab world. But I can tell you, Lester,
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there are real and growing concerns here that this is
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headed to the REIT toward a regional war, Lester,
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Adam Curry: regional war
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John C Dvorak: in the region. So now we go to we go to the clip
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that's there. I have a bunch of clips about all the protests all
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over the place. Yes, he's the one that relates to this this
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thesis protests in Iran.
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Adam Curry: Yes. And this has been going on protests in Iran,
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the whole country.
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Unknown: Yes. So also protests against Israel and the US in all
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major cities across Iran. President Abraham Lacey spoke at
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a rally in Tehran, where he warned the situation in Gaza
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risks spiraling out of control, and said aid must be allowed in
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Tulsa Jabari, has there
24:13
been a day of solidarity with the Palestinian people across
24:16
Iran as a number of rallies took place in all the major cities
24:21
across the country. It was declared a Day of Mourning by
24:24
the government and in the demonstrations here taking place
24:28
in Tehran. The Iranian President Ibrahim Bracy, made an
24:31
appearance and delivered a speech during which he condemned
24:35
the Israeli aggression. And he also blamed the United States.
24:39
Adam Curry: And they raised the Black Flag, Black Flag but the
24:45
Black Flag
24:47
John C Dvorak: didn't get to black.
24:47
Adam Curry: Oh, yeah, they raised the Black Flag. Yeah,
24:50
that means it's time to go crazy.
24:52
John C Dvorak: So they go crazy. And they said that, you know,
24:55
they, they want they want us to You know, the Palestinians have
25:01
got to get support, they gotta get relief and stuff has got to
25:08
go in there. And so there's been hemming and hawing and now
25:11
they're working on the road, they still haven't gotten that
25:13
clear. And all of this is going on. And it seems to be a very
25:19
triggering thing about the fact that we're really not doing
25:22
anything for the Gaza people. And we're maybe not doing it on
25:27
purpose just to get these Iranians worked up. We really do
25:30
this is a war that's got to happen have to happen. And
25:34
here's the unreported this story is unreported in the mainstream
25:38
media. And it makes zero sense unless you're trying to cause
25:41
trouble. This was the unreported story about one of the vetoes
25:46
that we did, and you went away. This was great,
25:50
Unknown: while insisting they were working to get aid into
25:52
Gaza, those against the United States standing alone blocked
25:57
the Security Council from passing a resolution that would
26:00
do just that. And
26:01
Adam Curry: our ambassador to the United Nations. I forget her
26:04
name. She's just sitting back like, raise my hand. I got a
26:09
veto here going on. Did you see that? She wasn't like engaged.
26:13
You're just leaning back? Yep, I'm against and we got a veto.
26:17
Unknown: The US Ambassador insisted that the draft was
26:20
incomplete.
26:21
The United States is disappointed this resolution
26:24
made no mention of Israel's rights of self defense, like
26:29
every nation in the world. Israel has the inherent right of
26:33
self defense, as reflected in article 51 of the UN Charter.
26:39
The resolution did condemn Hamas as October 7 attack and the
26:43
taking of civilian hostages, as well as demanding pauses in the
26:47
fighting for aid deliveries. After several days of
26:50
negotiations, 12 council members voted for it. Many pointing out
26:54
that civilians, humanitarian workers and medical facilities
26:58
must be protected under international humanitarian law.
27:03
John C Dvorak: You know, she blocked it, because it's already
27:07
in the UN Charter that everyone's has a right to self
27:10
defense. But it had to be reiterated in this in this
27:13
proposal. Are you kidding me? So for it's it's really it's a
27:18
technicality. Yes. So she puts a veto in for that reason, right?
27:23
I don't have this clip. But right afterwards, the British,
27:25
the Brazilian guy who put this forward, he went on and on and
27:29
on about how well, you know, this thing was researched this
27:33
this proposal. And the fact that the United States is the United
27:37
States stood alone to veto it is just a triggering mechanism.
27:42
Now, I do have the one, which indicates to me that we're going
27:45
to war with Iran if we can,
27:47
Adam Curry: yes, we need now some more. Well, we'll get to
27:50
that in a minute. Yes,
27:51
John C Dvorak: something more has to happen. But it's
27:54
obviously in the cards. And this brings us back to the west
27:57
Clarke seven, and the Trump memo, where the preparation for
28:02
the Iranian attack has already been in play. They did it took
28:05
place during the Trump administration, and he has a
28:07
copy of
28:08
Adam Curry: it without his knowledge.
28:10
John C Dvorak: Yeah, it was. It's not like that. So the only
28:15
thing that's the kind of a kicker is not much of a backup
28:19
of this, but the Russians caught wind of what we're up to. And so
28:22
they tried, they're trying to pull a kind of a fast one is the
28:26
way we do it. And this is the unreported USA veto. A do this
28:32
clip, too.
28:33
Unknown: Many members of the Security Council vowed to keep
28:35
working towards consensus and a resolution. But Russia taking a
28:39
page from the west playbook suggested they bring the issue
28:43
to the General Assembly instead for a vote where no country has
28:47
veto power.
28:48
Adam Curry: All right. All right. Cute. Way to go. Well,
28:53
I'm so not to move back a little bit. Before the bumbling Biden
29:01
showed up the other team, which the other team is very annoying,
29:06
I could probably obsess over that choice of descriptor for a
29:12
long time. You know, what is it red team? The blue team, you
29:16
know, what does that even mean? Why'd you use that? What's wrong
29:19
with you? You Oh, man, this is not sorry to be ageist. But
29:22
that's nuts. But last week on 60 minutes, our president was much
29:27
more coherent. They got him jacked up. Maybe it was the
29:29
other guy, I don't know. But he had a message for Iran last
29:32
week.
29:33
Unknown: Rarely does a president confront so much peril, the
29:37
catastrophe in Israel, the war in Ukraine and no help from a
29:41
paralyzed Congress. Mr. Biden will be at one next month and he
29:46
has said just that when he's tired, his lifelong stutter can
29:49
creep back in there about people that gotcha President 2 million
29:55
people trapped about half of them are children. Are you
29:58
asking Israel to To establish a humanitarian corridor in that
30:03
area or get humanitarian supplies, yes, our
30:06
team is talking to them about that. And whether there can be a
30:10
safe zone. We're also talking with the Egyptians, whether
30:14
there is an outlet to get these children and and women out into
30:22
out of the hat area at this moment that
30:27
you would like to see a humanitarian corridor that
30:30
allows some of the 2 million Gazans out of the area. Yes, you
30:35
would like to see humanitarian supplies brought into Gaza? Yes.
30:40
So you do not agree with the Israeli total siege of the Gaza
30:45
Strip.
30:46
I'm confident that Israel is going to act under the major the
30:50
rules of war. There's a standards that democratic
30:54
institutions and countries go by. And so I'm, I'm confident
31:00
that there's going to be an ability for the innocents in
31:04
Gaza to be able to have access to medicine and food and water.
31:10
There's limited fighting already on the northern Israeli border.
31:14
And I wonder what is your message to Hezbollah, and its
31:18
backer Iran.
31:21
Adam Curry: Set up?
31:22
Unknown: Don't Don't Don't Don't,
31:24
don't come across the border don't escalate this war.
31:27
Adam Curry: All right. So when you say don't that means Come
31:30
on, do it, do it. We want to go we need that. We need it to
31:34
start. Come on, do it by saying don't. And then the most
31:39
remarkable, most remarkable statement from the President and
31:45
you say he's not that jacked up. This is jacked up for this Joe
31:49
right now. I mean, the guy was dead brain dead in Israel.
31:54
John C Dvorak: I have three clips. I want to play Wait, let
31:57
me play this. No, not now. I want to play the Biden in Israel
32:01
clips when we get the chance.
32:03
Unknown: Wow, yeah, we'll get there are the wars in Israel and
32:06
Ukraine more than the United States can
32:09
take on at the same time the United States of America got the
32:17
most powerful nation in the history of the world and the
32:20
history of the world?
32:21
Adam Curry: Oh, the history of the world. Oh, part of these
32:24
Unknown: wars in Israel and Ukraine relate to the safety of
32:29
the American people.
32:30
Overwhelmingly, they relate. For example, in Ukraine, one of my
32:34
objectives was to prevent Putin who has committed war crimes
32:39
himself, who, from being able to occupy an independent country
32:45
that borders NATO allies, and is on the Russian border. Imagine
32:50
what happens now, if he were able to succeed. Have you ever
32:54
known a major war in Europe we didn't get sucked into. We don't
32:57
want that to happen. We want to make sure those democracies are
33:01
sustained. And Ukraine is critical. And making sure that
33:06
happens.
33:08
Why do you feel so strongly? What does Israel mean to you?
33:14
Adam Curry: It's almost like, like you're asking a seven year
33:17
old What does Israel mean to you? To me? Totally
33:21
Unknown: Jews have been subjected to abuse, prejudice
33:26
and attempt to wipe them out for over 1000 years. For me, it's
33:34
about decency, respect, honor, dignity. It's just simply wrong.
33:40
Wrong, wrong. Wrong. It violates every religious principle I have
33:44
in every way and every single principle My father taught me.
33:47
Adam Curry: Yeah, bringing the old dead. It's, this is what's
33:51
so interesting. We have a situation now where we are
33:54
funding Nazis in Ukraine, and we're caught. I mean, seriously,
34:00
yeah, that's it, you know, it's like, it's the dichotomy is
34:04
crazy the way but what we're seeing, and this is important in
34:10
light of him being at one etcetera, and generally the
34:14
octogenarians in in our government, and many older
34:18
people around the world. This is generational. And I think Israel
34:23
has lost the moral war. I mean, this is what you're seeing that
34:27
I'm not saying it's right or wrong. But and this probably
34:31
comes back to the loneliness op that we identified. Hey, man, I
34:35
got something like that. There's more victims. I can go out on
34:37
the street and I can protest. It's like Black Lives Matter all
34:40
over again. We go pro Palestine because Screw you, Israel. This
34:44
is this is a problem that I think the Biden administration
34:48
and probably all governments are not identifying properly. Your
34:52
people do not agree with this anymore. The vocal people, the
34:57
people that you sent out for George Floyd it.
35:00
John C Dvorak: Yep. All over the world. People all over it
35:03
exactly
35:03
Adam Curry: the same people. Exactly the same people. Now on
35:07
top of that, I'm sorry. We do not have the fighting force. I
35:13
don't even think you know, wo IDF. They're the best effort.
35:16
No, I don't think so. They're not used to this. What Hamas and
35:20
Hezbollah would they have they have been training in real war
35:24
real they fearless killing for a long time. We don't have
35:29
manpower. We don't we're AI come on all of a sudden we have we
35:34
have ammunition. We didn't have it for Ukraine. We don't have
35:37
it. The Israel wanted 3000 Iron Dome 50k a pop rockets. Now we
35:44
got 300 We're out of ammo. We don't have enough people. You
35:49
know, we may look badass. I think you know, we got a couple
35:52
1000 people in Syria looks great. But we really don't have
35:57
I don't think we don't have the weaponry in place. And the
36:01
training in guerrilla warfare or the urban warfare. I'm just not
36:07
so sure, Mr. President, that we're irrational? I don't think
36:11
so. And I really doubt the Israelis. capacity at this
36:16
point. I'm not so sure that we can win anything. Yeah.
36:25
John C Dvorak: I think it's a valid position.
36:27
Adam Curry: Yeah. What are you going to do? Is Israel going to
36:29
drop a nuke? Well, that does not going to work. You blow yourself
36:33
up. There's going to be no nukes, I'll tell you that right
36:36
now. No nukes are going to happen. So you can stop worrying
36:38
about that. But we need it then the play is simple. We need
36:43
Hezbollah, Hezbollah to attack in the north, then we can go
36:48
straight after Iran. And it'll be interesting to see what we
36:51
do.
36:53
John C Dvorak: We some is going to happen, at least from the
36:57
looks of things. I have liquid Democracy Now clip, although I
37:02
prefer nothing, you know, and
37:05
Adam Curry: we don't want anything happening. Of course,
37:06
we're anti war. This is Professor Rashid Khalidi on
37:12
Democracy Now
37:13
Unknown: spawned to President Biden sitting down with the
37:16
Prime Minister Netanyahu today and saying the other team did it
37:20
attacking the hospital and go on from there.
37:23
The President has bonded the United States, Israel, the hip
37:26
since very soon after this horrible escalation started. In
37:30
so doing, he's made the United States responsible in the eyes
37:34
of the world for everything. And this is the latest example of
37:37
that. He's basically read from an Israeli teleprompter, as he
37:41
seems to do routinely, when anything relating to the Middle
37:44
East comes up. It's almost as if his lines are scripted in Tel
37:48
Aviv at the Israeli Defense Ministry, where their
37:51
disinformation headquarters are located.
37:54
Adam Curry: I should probably add one more thing to this just
37:56
so people understand the dynamics of Israel in the United
37:59
States, AIPAC. A AIPAC is what is it the American Israeli?
38:07
Something? AIPAC is very important and all
38:12
John C Dvorak: it's a big gun. They have a big convention.
38:15
Adam Curry: And the convention for Republicans specifically is
38:18
very
38:19
John C Dvorak: pretty No, it's across the board who met Schumer
38:22
is always there speaking.
38:23
Adam Curry: So here's how it works. AIPAC, very well funded
38:27
by Israel, Israel, that American Jews or whatever people might
38:32
say is by Israel. And if you are not all in with what a PACs
38:36
agenda is, they will primary you. That's the threat. And
38:42
money drives all politics all around the world, and certainly
38:45
in the United States. So, you know, Biden has to do what the
38:50
AIPAC agenda is all politicians have to do with it particularly,
38:54
it could not be a better time in an election year coming up. You
38:58
better do it, otherwise you will lose power. And that's what
39:02
they're all afraid of. They don't really care about Israelis
39:05
or Palestinians or Americans or Iranians. They're insane. All of
39:11
them. We've We've let a whole politicians go insane and busy
39:15
work. And if they're not it only take one year, one year in DC
39:20
and you're part of the gang
39:26
John C Dvorak: get more from that guy. I had that clip.
39:28
Adam Curry: I do. I do. About not that guy. I have. I think
39:32
actually this we've had NBC I want to play a few CBS CIA
39:38
broadcasting systems. I have three small trifecta. Regarding
39:44
this, this latest frack is joining us
39:46
Unknown: at the table is Margaret Brennan. She's chief
39:48
foreign affairs correspondent and moderator of face nation.
39:51
Margaret really glad to have you here today
39:53
Adam Curry: because she's an expert at reading prompter.
39:56
John C Dvorak: So much to unpack why she Yes, exactly
39:59
Adam Curry: what she's done. expert because this is the
40:01
morning show. It's the morning show. All right, let's get
40:03
really deep into it with Margaret Brennan who read let's
40:05
talk journalists talking to journalists. Yes. That's when
40:09
the messaging is always considered
40:10
John C Dvorak: a faux pa in journalism technically
40:13
considered a faux pas.
40:14
Adam Curry: Yes. You think this is journalism? Margaret, really?
40:18
John C Dvorak: In this case? Yes. That even that is the
40:20
newsreader talking to newsreader. Yes, I'm
40:22
Adam Curry: going to introduce you with the script. And you can
40:24
read the script. Go ahead. Hello, Margaret. I'm so happy
40:26
you're here. You are the expert here today. Yes. Glad to be here
40:29
to unpack
40:30
Unknown: on this. The blame game is underway. Who was responsible
40:34
for the bombing of the hospital? Oh, very
40:37
John C Dvorak: good. Get it got me interrupting mode. Yes. Okay.
40:40
When an unpacked becomes such a universal phrase. Have you
40:44
noticed that? It shows up all the time? I was hearing it this
40:47
morning. Yeah. unpack what you're on packet. I think we can
40:50
pack I think we
40:51
Adam Curry: should say unzip it. You know, that would be much
40:53
cooler. We will use unzip it. Unzip that archive for me. Do
40:57
you have winds are
40:59
Unknown: to hopefully bring sides together? What challenges?
41:03
What additional problems? Does this cause for the President of
41:06
the United States at this time?
41:07
Adam Curry: Oh, let's go straight to politics.
41:09
Unknown: Whatever the facts are, it's the perception that matters
41:12
and the perception in the streets of Jordan in Egypt, I am
41:14
a journalist, facts don't matter. West Bank, United States
41:18
saying it stands by his wife.
41:20
Adam Curry: She literally said that look, but who cares? Who
41:22
cares? What facts are let's listen to let's unpack that
41:25
again.
41:25
Unknown: This time, whatever the facts are. It's the perception
41:28
that matters. And the perception in the streets of Jordan and
41:31
Egypt in the West Bank is that the United States saying it
41:33
stands by Israel without question means that it is
41:37
allowing for continued civilian casualties, not just with that
41:41
hospital bombing, but it is seen in the broader context of this
41:44
bombardment. They talk about bombing bombing that's been
41:48
going on for 11 days now. And certainly it became politically
41:52
untenable for the King of Jordan, to host the president,
41:55
the United States. And that's pretty extraordinary. Given
41:57
Israel and Jordan and Egypt, they have peace treaties. This
42:00
is one of our closest allies in the Middle East. And because of
42:04
the uproar in the streets, it just became impossible to host
42:07
the president. So that shows the level of complexity that this
42:11
mistake perhaps was an errant strike. Was it on whose part
42:15
exactly somebody military claims it was Islamic Jihad, a militant
42:20
group that's smaller than Hamas, but operative there?
42:23
Adam Curry: This is this Hello, new player, new player, the
42:26
Palestinian Islamic Jihad new player is being introduced by
42:31
CBS, which is not just No,
42:33
John C Dvorak: everybody's been talking about that group. None.
42:36
Yes. I have the clip that I played earlier, from NBC.
42:40
Unknown: But this is not present this morning when he said the
42:42
other team is responsible. He didn't say what that was based
42:45
on. Is that a US intelligence assessment? Is that accepting
42:49
the Israeli military's version of I love
42:52
Adam Curry: the guy in the background? Oh, cool, cool.
42:54
whole
42:55
Unknown: team is responsible. He didn't say what that was based
42:58
on. Is that a US intelligence assessment? Is that accepting
43:01
the Israeli military's version of events? And so could that
43:05
escalate things? Yes, absolutely. And that is part of
43:09
the concern here is how do you win back? The public? Holly's
43:14
piece was just showing her the political problems that the
43:16
Prime Minister of Israel has his people want retribution for this
43:20
horrific attack that happened. But as you're seeing with the
43:24
president there with the Secretary of State with the
43:26
Secretary of Defense, with all these lawmakers going, there are
43:29
quiet questions being asked behind closed doors to the
43:32
Israeli government saying Prime Minister Netanyahu, what is your
43:35
plan for what comes next?
43:37
Adam Curry: Ah, okay. So CBS knows that there's quiet
43:40
conversations and questions going on in the background
43:43
behind closed doors. Do you think it
43:45
Unknown: was necessary for President Biden to be there at
43:47
this particular time? Well, I, I was, you know, talking with
43:52
officials last night saying, Can you call it off yet the planes
43:55
and road they were stuck. It had already been announced, even
44:00
after the Arab summit was called off because President Abbas had
44:04
to return to the West Bank, there are protests against him.
44:07
And then in Jordan and Egypt, you see these protests going to
44:10
Israel, for some will look like the United States is standing by
44:15
even if this is an open question of vulnerabilities, very
44:20
Adam Curry: serious problems that were to be discussed at the
44:22
Arab summit involving humanitarian aid and access to
44:24
each of those remain. Are they being discussed on the
44:26
sidelines, any progress that can be made?
44:29
Unknown: Well, the President will be calling some of those
44:31
leaders as well. He can't be seen standing beside them
44:35
because of their own political issues. But you know, Secretary
44:38
Blinken spent the better part of the last week shoveling around
44:40
the Middle East and came back to Israel to pres Prime Minister
44:44
Netanyahu to get this agreement to allow in any aid even though
44:47
it's very restricted, what is being allowed in VA that we
44:50
vetoed, if any, is allowed. And for some, it appears that this
44:55
visit was collateral for that, because Tony Blinken and the
44:58
Secretary of State was by Behind closed doors for nine hours,
45:02
with the Israeli government trying to get this agreement to
45:05
allow in aid, but
45:06
Adam Curry: obviously we're the most powerful country in the
45:08
world. We're the best. We control everything except to Oh,
45:11
crap. We didn't control that part. last clip.
45:14
Unknown: What if anything, can you tell us about diplomatic
45:16
efforts to release the hostages, we saw the mother with a picture
45:19
of her daughter who has now become the face of the hostages,
45:22
he or Gail, I've been talking to sources in the Middle East here
45:25
in the United States, people who work with hostage families,
45:29
there had been some hope leading up to this bombing. And this
45:34
morning I am told Hamas is signaling that it is not
45:37
possible for them at this moment to go through with any kind of
45:41
release. Now that's if you believe that the diplomatic
45:44
efforts to date actually we're going to be successful was
45:47
Adam Curry: this laugh for Moshe was was just so funny, was so
45:50
fun to go through.
45:51
John C Dvorak: Where was that? Where was that placed? Again,
45:53
Unknown: it's possible for them at this moment to go through
45:57
with any kind of release. Now, that's if you believe that the
46:00
diplomatic efforts to date actually, we're going to be
46:03
successful. So this
46:04
John C Dvorak: diplomatic efforts she thinks is bullcrap
46:08
we all we all know who she talking to her sources? Yes, in
46:13
the Middle East is
46:15
Unknown: difficult. And it also Carol's other diplomacy, very
46:18
complicated, very layered,
46:20
Adam Curry: very layered,
46:21
John C Dvorak: layered, very
46:22
Adam Curry: layered. Well, that's why he had to unpack it
46:24
because it's layered. It's a tar ball. All right, back to you,
46:31
Bob.
46:32
John C Dvorak: Let's go with a couple of these protest clips
46:35
because there's one it might be good, just world protests on Al
46:39
Jazeera.
46:41
Unknown: There have been protests taking place around the
46:42
world in support of the Palestinian people.
46:45
demonstrators gathered outside the US Embassy in Tokyo in
46:48
Japan. They were chanting USA, shame on you. In Tokyo, police
46:52
fired water cabinet protesters on the streets of Istanbul 1000s
46:56
are gathered in front of the Israeli consulate. Demonstrators
46:59
in India describe what's going on in Palestine as a genocide.
47:03
And members of a Muslim organization gathered in Chennai
47:06
and in the Philippines. People carried Palestinian flags and
47:10
candles and protest the Israeli airstrike on that hospital in
47:14
Gaza. Well, the bottom below is that a demonstration in the
47:18
southern Philippines they're
47:19
John C Dvorak: talking about the Philippines gas. It's
47:22
unbelievable. The guy pretty good organizational skills
47:27
better than ours. Anyway, onwards. Well,
47:31
Adam Curry: I mean, it's it's that you know, this is I think
47:34
it's probably a lot of the trans Maoism that has crept in every
47:37
way
47:38
John C Dvorak: I 100%.
47:44
Adam Curry: I get to see if you say a for your one 100% I get to
47:49
say You bet.
47:51
John C Dvorak: I never finished this. I never got to the tea.
47:54
Oh, okay. Mobilization
47:56
Unknown: gathered in Chennai. And in the Philippines, people
47:59
carried Palestinian flags and lit candles and protest at the
48:02
Israeli airstrike on that hospital in Gaza. Well, Barnaby
48:07
Lowe is at a demonstration in Marawi in the southern
48:09
Philippines and joins us live Barnaby. So what are protesters
48:12
telling you? And why are they so angry about events in Gaza?
48:15
It's definitely a huge anger here as demonstrated by the huge
48:19
crowd right behind me. And it's not just here all over Morocco
48:23
is city. There are banners and posters saying Free Palestine
48:27
and Israeli occupation. This protest, definitely primarily
48:31
sparked by that attack on the hospital in Gaza on Tuesday, but
48:36
their calls their condemnation go beyond that. Just just that
48:41
one incident. And in fact, they go beyond this week long
48:45
hostilities in Gaza. atrocities they say by Israeli forces. They
48:51
say they want an end to Israeli occupation because they
48:54
understand that people in Gaza have been living under constant
48:58
bombardment. And they have been living under decades of blockade
49:02
by by Israel. And so they want a free Palestine, not just in
49:07
Gaza, but also in the West Bank.
49:10
Adam Curry: All right. I have a protest clip from ABC. This is
49:14
about protests across the Middle East. And they all start off
49:19
perfectly fine.
49:23
Unknown: In Beirut today, we witnessed protesters rushing the
49:26
American embassy security forces pushing them back using tear
49:29
gas, water hoses and rubber bullets. Amid the chaos we take
49:35
cover. As you can see protesters pushing back against security
49:41
forces started by throwing rocks launching fireworks. It's been a
49:44
constant push and pull here between security forces and the
49:48
protesters who were trying to push up against the American
49:50
Embassy. They say they're outraged at Israel's bombardment
49:55
of Palestinian citizens and the US support for it. Ross the
50:00
region fury drops Israeli government and its ally the
50:03
United States now at a boiling point from Iran to Jordan. A
50:12
deadly explosion at the hospital in Gaza further and flaming
50:15
demonstrations, Israel insisting it was not responsible. The US
50:19
saying intelligence backs that up. But for protesters here,
50:23
that's evidence. The Israeli us alliance is toxic. Because it's
50:30
supported in the West Bank, the anger growing in Ramallah ABCs
50:35
Matt Gutman among the protesters, downtown Ramallah
50:39
This is a protest of unity the rallying in support of the
50:42
Moscow support Palestinian fighters. People telling me here
50:48
that
50:51
those demonstrations quickly spreading across the West Bank
50:55
protesters clashing with Israeli soldiers as the region smolders.
50:59
Adam Curry: I mean, it's these demonstrations are and these
51:03
people who go they have no historical context, they really
51:06
don't. Maybe Muslims have some built in historical context,
51:12
generational context that they've been given throughout
51:15
the years and every everyone's toxified their children. This
51:19
will come to a head one way or another in the Netherlands. In
51:23
the Netherlands. The protests have a slogan Hamas Hamas, the
51:28
Yoda on a cos which translates to Hamas Hamas put the Jews on
51:33
the gas as in gas. I mean, this is Oh, really? Oh, yeah. In
51:37
Holland. But okay, it's all right. But let's bring in some
51:42
show. Hey, yeah. What are you gonna do we need a show business
51:45
angle. All right. Let's
51:46
Unknown: switch gears now to Alicia Keys, and the posts that
51:49
sparked a social media backlash. Alicia was criticized for this
51:56
Instagram post asking quote, what would you do if you weren't
52:00
afraid of anything? I've had my eyes on paragliding Oh, many
52:05
user said the word paragliding was both triggering sensitive
52:09
giving there used by Hamas during the October 7 attack on
52:12
an Israeli Music Festival. The massacre claimed nearly 300
52:16
innocent lives and led to the capture of several hostages.
52:19
Some even accused Alisha of showing sympathy toward the
52:22
terror organization by wearing green the same color as the
52:26
Hamas flag. Someone who came to Alisha is defense. Her former
52:30
manager guy Oseary the Israeli American took to Instagram
52:34
saying quote I spoke to Alicia and she was horrified to learn
52:37
what the word implied and immediately took it down
52:40
Adam Curry: rather this is where we're at this is where
52:43
John C Dvorak: the old brother part of the show
52:45
Adam Curry: if I was President right now I would have an
52:48
executive order shut off the internet shut up
52:51
John C Dvorak: shop would have done it years ago but that's
52:53
Shut up why
52:54
Adam Curry: was shut down social media right now.
52:56
John C Dvorak: This was done protests. Let's do this one. We
52:59
this one was poorly covered. I thought by the American
53:02
president that a Al Jazeera did a great job in the protest in
53:06
DC.
53:07
Adam Curry: Oh, yeah. This was interesting. In
53:10
Unknown: Washington, DC protesters from anti war group
53:12
Jewish Voice for Peace have staged a sitting inside a
53:15
congressional building.
53:17
Adam Curry: This is what I mean by generational this is exactly
53:19
what I mean. The demonstrators are calling
53:21
Unknown: for an immediate ceasefire amid the rising death
53:23
toll in Gaza. Some protesters are wearing shirts with a word
53:26
not in our name. Tactical Hanes sent us this report from Capitol
53:30
Hill.
53:31
Protesters are taking the pro Palestinian cause to the US
53:35
Capitol here in the cannon House Office Building. This is where
53:38
members of Congress and their staff, many of them have their
53:42
offices. This happened earlier in the day. I'd say about five
53:48
dozen maybe six dozen activists wearing T shirts say not in our
53:53
name juice, a ceasefire now came into cannon chanting, they knew
53:58
they would be arrested. Now this all started at a protest just a
54:02
few blocks away earlier in the day. More than 1000 people are
54:06
really all faiths came out. But I did talk to one gentleman he
54:10
said his grant his grandparents survived the Holocaust helped
54:14
build Israel. But now he says you need to come out because he
54:18
does not believe the people, the people of his own religion are
54:23
doing to the Palestinians.
54:25
I see my job as carrying on their legacy as Jews who
54:28
fundamentally see their role as standing up for stateless and
54:32
oppressed people all throughout the world. And I see no better
54:35
way to do that than fighting for peace and a ceasefire in Gaza
54:38
today.
54:38
Adam Curry: Yeah, this is amazing what's going on? I mean,
54:41
even amongst the pro, you know, the Save Palestine protests. If
54:46
you look at if you really look at some of the pictures, there's
54:49
a lot of Jewish groups they're Jews for Palestine, they got
54:53
signs they're intermingled. The generational fact is that the
54:58
young people who have have no context at
55:01
John C Dvorak: all they are no because they weren't given a
55:03
decent education for starters, and they but they
55:05
Adam Curry: also that people don't want war anymore. The
55:10
people don't
55:11
John C Dvorak: just this if this war cranks up the way they're
55:13
trying to do it with Iran, I think the backlash is going to
55:17
be huge, unexpected, because if you're a Democrat strategist,
55:20
you're thinking, what are we going to do to keep Biden in
55:23
office because he's going to run whether you like it or not. Well
55:26
make him a war president or nobody ever votes a war
55:28
president out of office. George W. Bush is a good example.
55:32
Adam Curry: You know, this. I hate to say this, now would be a
55:35
perfect time for Biden to die. That's, that's the only thing
55:41
left that would make this chaos complete. Well, President
55:47
Kamala,
55:49
John C Dvorak: President Camela Well, things aren't bad enough.
55:54
Why not? Part two, part two of this clip is got an interesting
55:59
kicker.
56:00
Unknown: As we take one more look is the crowd as they start
56:02
to get arrested one by one being put in zip ties, this is going
56:06
to be a misdemeanor, they're unlikely to face any sort of
56:09
jail time, they'll probably pay a fine. Just to give you a sense
56:12
of how different this sentiment is from those of the elected
56:15
officials in these buildings. There was a resolution by one
56:20
representative tasking Joe Biden, the US president to call
56:24
for a ceasefire in Gaza, in all 13 members of Congress agreed.
56:31
Al Jazeera at the US Capitol.
56:34
John C Dvorak: So call for a ceasefire in Gaza, which would
56:38
be not a bad idea. Seems to me.
56:43
Adam Curry: I'm pretty I'm pretty sure that Hamas in total
56:46
John C Dvorak: congressmen and senators be agreed to this is
56:49
um, this is no, they're not connected.
56:52
Adam Curry: There was a Hamas at some point, I had the clips in
56:57
here somewhere, said, you know, we'll let all the hostages go if
57:01
he just stopped firing rockets.
57:05
John C Dvorak: Yeah, I don't believe that to be true. I
57:06
Adam Curry: don't believe it either. But it was a talking
57:08
point for a moment there. I have some some trigger clips. People
57:13
just do using triggering triggering stuff. Sky News. This
57:22
is Sky News with former Israeli Prime Minister Naftali Bennett.
57:27
And he goes straight for the jugular.
57:28
Unknown: And what about those Palestinians in hospital who are
57:32
on life support and babies and incubators?
57:34
Adam Curry: Oh, hold on Sky News. We've got babies and
57:38
incubators, turn them up, throw them out
57:40
Unknown: whose life support an incubator will have to be turned
57:42
off because these readings have cut the power to Gaza?
57:46
Are you seriously keep on asking me about Palestinian civilians?
57:52
What's What's wrong with you? Have you not seen what happened?
57:55
We're fighting Nazis. We don't target them. So the world can
58:00
come and bring them anything they want. If you want to bring
58:03
them electricity, I'm not going to feed electricity or water to
58:06
my enemies. If anyone else wants that's fine. We're not
58:10
responsible for this is the point of
58:19
Adam Curry: this is my show. And I am asking questions your way.
58:23
So this is this goes on for quite a while. But you know,
58:27
everything's everything's Nazi now. Nazi Nazi Nazi. Let's go to
58:33
Piers Morgan. Piers Morgan, is who's this guy by Sam Yousef. I
58:41
don't know if he mentions it. But this is, you know, the
58:44
dichotomy between Russia, Ukraine, ISRAEL PALESTINE,
58:49
Unknown: I would say I really applaud Israel for doing one
58:52
thing that no military force in the word does, because I heard I
58:56
heard Ben Shapiro and I heard Ron DeSantis. And they said,
59:00
they said isn't amazing
59:01
Adam Curry: that Ben Shapiro is now on the world stage. With Ron
59:05
DeSantis.
59:07
John C Dvorak: It doesn't surprise me he's a hard worker.
59:11
He doesn't surprise me at all.
59:15
Unknown: Force in the word does, because I heard I heard Ben
59:18
Shapiro and I heard Ron DeSantis. And they said, they
59:21
said Israel is the only military force in the world that wore
59:25
civilians before bombing them. I mean, how fucking cute. That is
59:30
so nice to have them. Because with this logic, if Russian
59:33
troops started warning Ukrainians before bombing their
59:36
houses, were cool with Putin, right? I mean, okay, habibi. You
59:40
have warned them go invade, it's fine. You have done your job. I
59:45
mean, the thing is, and I understand all and also heard
59:47
Ben Shapiro talking about, about human shields. So you remember
59:52
my wife's family? They live in Gaza. So I asked him, I told him
59:56
when Israel give you the nice warning, the cute warning Does
1:00:01
Hamas force you to stay in your home so you can be bombed and
1:00:04
use a as as human shields? Does that mean that every single one
1:00:08
of those civilians will stand in a obscuring a military target
1:00:12
behind them? Because that's a lot of weapons. I mean,
1:00:14
harnesses packing? No, it
1:00:16
also doesn't.
1:00:18
Adam Curry: I love these comparisons.
1:00:20
Unknown: I want to understand what is the logic of Israel,
1:00:23
carpet bombing Gaza? I mean, if there is a logic, if it is a
1:00:25
good if this will make Israel safe, I want to hear the logic.
1:00:29
So if I can understand this correctly, basically Israel is
1:00:32
doing this to pressure the Palestinian community in Gaza,
1:00:36
to turn against Hamas. Is that right? I'm sure that's part of
1:00:38
it. Yes, that's smarter. So this is exactly what terrorist
1:00:41
organization do because there's organizations would have no
1:00:44
chance beating the whole nation in battle. So they terrorize and
1:00:48
they kill the civilians in order to spread fear and terror so
1:00:51
they can turn against the government to change their
1:00:53
policy or to resign, you have just compared Israel with ISIS.
1:00:58
The thing is, this is the problem. Israel always
1:01:01
victimizes itself. And I have never seen a victim putting
1:01:04
their oppressor under siege and bombed and 24/7 Israel wants you
1:01:08
to believe that they are the victim is beginning with Israel
1:01:12
is so difficult. It's like being in a relationship with a
1:01:14
narcissistic psychopath. He fucks you up and then he makes
1:01:17
you think it's your fault.
1:01:20
John C Dvorak: Guys got opinions. By the way, our
1:01:23
bombing firebombing of the German cities, especially
1:01:27
Dresden was exactly this course.
1:01:30
Adam Curry: This, this is the context that people don't have.
1:01:32
This has been going on forever, all around the world all the
1:01:36
time. And we're being told this. Now it's this is it. This is
1:01:40
where an End Times It's all over now.
1:01:43
John C Dvorak: It's like the hottest day. Yeah. The hottest
1:01:46
day, what a good day for 100 years. Because red hot, hot for
1:01:49
100 years. It's good. It must have been global warming 100
1:01:52
years ago, what are you telling me? So we've
1:01:53
Adam Curry: got to shore it all up now and make sure everybody
1:01:56
understands particular financial markets? Let's say it's okay.
1:02:00
Don't worry. We got it under control. We can do this with the
1:02:04
best country in the world. Have you ever have the history? Let's
1:02:08
bring out Janet Yellen. She is after all, in charge of our
1:02:13
finances paid Janet, can we really clean? Really? Can we
1:02:17
really do all this? I mean, we do we have mass you? Do we have?
1:02:21
Do we have a war fund? Do we have like a little piggy bank
1:02:24
are something that we can break to open up for money? Do we have
1:02:28
that? Is there is there that I know of? I don't think so either
1:02:31
Paul
1:02:32
Unknown: Tudor Jones, the famed investor was on CNBC this week.
1:02:34
And he said, This is the most threatening and challenging
1:02:37
geopolitical environment that I've ever seen. At the same
1:02:40
time, the US is in its weakest fiscal position since World War
1:02:43
Two, with debt to GDP at 122%. Can America can the West afford
1:02:50
another war at this time?
1:02:52
I think the answer is absolutely.
1:02:59
Adam Curry: Absolutely. Bring in another one. Hey, how about
1:03:03
Taiwan?
1:03:03
Unknown: Can America can the West afford another war at this
1:03:07
time?
1:03:08
I think the answer is absolutely. America can
1:03:12
certainly afford to stand with Israel and to support Israel's
1:03:18
military needs. And we also can and must support Ukraine in its
1:03:24
struggle against Russia. The American economy is doing
1:03:30
extremely well.
1:03:31
Adam Curry: I love this. It's doing extremely well.
1:03:35
Unknown: Inflation has been high and it's been a concern to
1:03:39
households.
1:03:40
Adam Curry: It's a concern to households. It's just a little
1:03:42
concern. What's
1:03:43
Unknown: your problem come down considerably. Oh, at the same
1:03:47
time, we may rise
1:03:49
John C Dvorak: has come down. It hasn't reversed.
1:03:53
Adam Curry: It has come down considerably. Look, I mean,
1:03:55
John C Dvorak: you're still going up. It's cumulative. This
1:03:58
is the one thing that people don't understand about
1:04:00
inflation. Please. Explain. Well, if you have an inflation
1:04:06
rate of 10%, and then it drops to 5%. It's five on top of the
1:04:12
10. It's not but you can say but a politician was there? Well, we
1:04:16
had it it's gone down 50% Inflation has gone down 50%.
1:04:21
It's gone down from 10% to 5%, which means it was 10%, which
1:04:27
you've lost, you've already lost 10% of all your all your value
1:04:30
right there. And then it's another 5% On top of that, on
1:04:34
top of that, on top of that, it's
1:04:35
Adam Curry: just a concern. It's a
1:04:36
John C Dvorak: scam.
1:04:38
Adam Curry: It's just it's just a concern. It's what people are
1:04:40
talking about around the kitchen table. It's just a slice
1:04:44
Unknown: of the price of gasoline. The American economy
1:04:47
is doing extremely well. Inflation has been high and it's
1:04:52
been a concern to have sold. It's come down considerably. At
1:04:58
the same time. We As about the strongest labor market, we've
1:05:03
seen,
1:05:04
Adam Curry: let's just re explain the labor market, the
1:05:07
labor market and unemployment is determined by those who have
1:05:10
registered and are willing to work versus those who are
1:05:13
working. Not all the people who have given up.
1:05:17
John C Dvorak: Give. The people have given up as a huge number.
1:05:20
Adam Curry: A huge number shadow stats.com 50 years.
1:05:23
John C Dvorak: Yes, Shadow stats.com 3.8%
1:05:26
Unknown: unemployment. And at the same time, America, the
1:05:31
Biden administration has passed legislation that is
1:05:35
strengthening our economy in the years to come. Okay, medium
1:05:40
term. What is it was we have three historic pieces of
1:05:45
legislation,
1:05:45
Adam Curry: three historic pieces of legislation, each
1:05:48
about a trillion dollars,
1:05:49
Unknown: bipartisan infrastructure at the chips, and
1:05:53
some
1:05:53
John C Dvorak: one Republican voted yes. bipartisan,
1:05:56
bipartisan bipartisan.
1:05:58
Adam Curry: Hey,
1:05:58
Unknown: hey, infrastructure
1:06:01
Adam Curry: is there. How are the potholes?
1:06:06
John C Dvorak: I don't see. I mean, they're, they did pave a
1:06:09
section of ADF, north of me, oh, repaved it, but the reason they
1:06:14
stopped, I mean, it's still not good to be infrastructure. And
1:06:18
there's all kinds of, you know, if you want to drive drive
1:06:20
around Berkeley sometime, and I should put a camera on one of
1:06:23
the cams, you know, is car cam on my car, and I'll drive some
1:06:28
areas. And without the without the image stabilization on
1:06:32
you'll see what I'm talking about.
1:06:35
Adam Curry: I expect you
1:06:36
John C Dvorak: to do this. I'm going to do it now.
1:06:38
Adam Curry: And make sure you focus it on that dashboard,
1:06:41
which you claim after 25 years has still not cracked.
1:06:46
John C Dvorak: Do I take some photos for you
1:06:49
Adam Curry: know, that's okay.
1:06:51
Unknown: bipartisan infrastructure at the chips and
1:06:54
science act in the inflation Reduction Act. And
1:06:59
Adam Curry: the best the inflation Reduction Act?
1:07:02
John C Dvorak: Yeah. Which is also the green New Deal. So
1:07:04
that's bull crap.
1:07:06
Unknown: We've seen a burgeoning of investment, especially in
1:07:11
manufacturing, we have manufacturing.
1:07:15
Adam Curry: Oh, I'm sorry, I must have missed all the
1:07:17
manufacturing going on. I haven't seen any
1:07:19
John C Dvorak: factories go up around here, of course,
1:07:21
Unknown: in industrial renaissance in the
1:07:23
Adam Curry: industrial road here,
1:07:27
Unknown: and we're creating good jobs, good jobs, for people
1:07:31
who've been who have crossed the border illegally, don't have a
1:07:35
college education have been lifted out of Republicans really
1:07:42
economic progress in the United States. So the United States,
1:07:46
Adam Curry: you know what, those jobs aren't serving other people
1:07:49
in restaurants,
1:07:51
Unknown: a economy is in a good place. In terms of the fiscal
1:07:55
situation, I don't know where 122 comes from the US federal
1:08:01
debt to GDP ratio is about 98% At this point,
1:08:06
Adam Curry: okay. Do you know that that's, I've heard anything
1:08:10
but a number under 100% debt to GDP. She's claiming it's 98%. I
1:08:17
thought it was like 110. I've heard what the guy said 120.
1:08:20
I've heard 160. And she said, I don't know where that number
1:08:24
comes from. It's about 98%. But she did say federal, probably
1:08:29
plan some words, got
1:08:30
John C Dvorak: some debts, weasels, there's something
1:08:31
Weasley about what she said, yeah,
1:08:33
Unknown: just the fiscal situation. I don't know where
1:08:36
122 comes from the US federal debt to federal ratio is about a
1:08:43
percent at this point. And the interest expense, which is a
1:08:49
more relevant statistic still remains manageable. Now. It is
1:08:54
true with higher interest rates, and those higher interest rates
1:08:59
may persist, although that's not clear.
1:09:02
Adam Curry: Yeah, it's not clear. Well, it is clear,
1:09:05
because they're gonna go higher. Powell just had his little chat
1:09:07
today. And it was like, okay, that's not working. We need to
1:09:12
start print. The President has an announcement tonight.
1:09:15
John C Dvorak: Yeah, no. show now. Of course.
1:09:18
Adam Curry: I think it will be the let's print some money
1:09:21
night. Yes, you're
1:09:24
John C Dvorak: gonna have to jack him up tonight. There's no
1:09:26
doubt about it. He's going to be pumped. So he'll be screaming
1:09:29
about dignity.
1:09:30
Adam Curry: I don't think they you know, he's over jacked. I
1:09:32
don't think they can do it anymore. It's not working.
1:09:37
John C Dvorak: Well, we're gonna find out tonight because tonight
1:09:39
tonight if they're going to jack him with a hotshot, tonight's
1:09:43
the night.
1:09:44
Adam Curry: Tonight's the night. We're gonna jack him to Jack
1:09:48
him. Well, this I mean, this will be the speech of his life.
1:09:55
What can he possibly say?
1:09:58
John C Dvorak: Well, I have some fun Oops, I might have a couple
1:10:01
of clips.
1:10:01
Adam Curry: Do you have him talking about Golden my hair?
1:10:04
John C Dvorak: Yes, I have that
1:10:06
Adam Curry: clip because I looked that up. Let's can do you
1:10:09
mind if we play this one first?
1:10:11
John C Dvorak: Well, I will one is the kicker.
1:10:13
Adam Curry: Okay. We'll do it in order whatever you want.
1:10:15
John C Dvorak: Let's just go first, the rambling about peace
1:10:18
Unknown: doctors, too to be light into the world as though
1:10:21
we're about. What are
1:10:23
Adam Curry: we about?
1:10:24
John C Dvorak: But darkness into the light? Oh, oh,
1:10:27
Adam Curry: I thought we were the Doctors of the World. This
1:10:29
into the light into the world darkness into the light of the
1:10:32
world, the darkness
1:10:33
Unknown: to be light into the world as it were about,
1:10:36
Adam Curry: oh, we are the light, the shining light on the
1:10:39
hill. You inspire
1:10:40
Unknown: hope and light for so many around the world. That's
1:10:45
what the terrorists seek to destroy.
1:10:47
John C Dvorak: As he noticed a protests about all these were
1:10:50
inspiring people.
1:10:52
Adam Curry: Yes. Well, he's not. He's correct. We're inspiring
1:10:55
people to protest. It's all going according to plan.
1:11:00
Unknown: That's what the terrorists seek to destroy.
1:11:02
That's what they seek to destroy. Because they live in
1:11:05
darkness. But not you, not Israel. Nations of conscious
1:11:11
like the United States and Israel are not measured solely
1:11:14
by example, or power. were measured by the power of our
1:11:18
example. That's why it's hard.
1:11:20
Adam Curry: Oh, wow, who wrote that one? Chat GPT. We're not
1:11:25
measured by our examples of power. No, we're measured by our
1:11:28
powers of example. This is unconscious,
1:11:30
Unknown: it United States in Israel are not measured solely
1:11:34
by the example or power. And were measured by the power of
1:11:37
our example. And that's why as hard as it is, must keep
1:11:41
pursuing peace. Must keep pursuing a path. So that Israel,
1:11:46
the Palestinian people can both live safely. Is security and
1:11:50
dignity in peace?
1:11:53
Adam Curry: No, that's never going to happen. Dignity, isn't
1:11:56
it? I mean, every single time remember president, Bill
1:12:00
Clinton? Oh, yeah. Oh, it's gonna be great to have peace.
1:12:03
He's gonna be peace. And all we used to see on television back
1:12:07
in the 70s. Was kids with Sling shots, but they weren't the
1:12:11
sling shots we had really cool. Well, yeah, the cool ones like
1:12:14
and they were good at it with the, you know, like the, the
1:12:17
David's sling shots with. And that's what we were looking at.
1:12:23
And I always thought, why don't we give them some good
1:12:25
slingshots. How does that really work? But those things are cool.
1:12:28
They they and that's all
1:12:29
John C Dvorak: you get a lot of velocity off of one of those.
1:12:32
Yeah,
1:12:32
Adam Curry: yeah, that's, it's as far back as I can remember.
1:12:37
John C Dvorak: Well, I'm older than you. And I can say the same
1:12:40
exact words for 3d
1:12:42
Unknown: the story of Moses death.
1:12:45
Adam Curry: We're gonna go biblical here for a second.
1:12:47
John C Dvorak: That's it. That's why I have to set this up, if
1:12:49
you listen carefully. Key claims, I think, yes, to have
1:12:59
done something that very few people have ever done. Read the
1:13:03
Torah. Now why a Catholic boy would read the Torah is beyond
1:13:07
me. But I think that's what he says in this clip
1:13:11
Unknown: country, the story of Moses death. Those who observe
1:13:15
the holiday began reading the Torah, from the very beginning.
1:13:19
A story of creation reminds us of two things. First, we get
1:13:25
knocked down, we get back up again. And we begin to new. And
1:13:30
second, when we're faced with tragedy and loss, we must go
1:13:34
back to the beginning to remember who we are who we are,
1:13:37
we are all human beings, created an image of God with dignity,
1:13:42
humanity, the purpose?
1:13:44
Adam Curry: No, but the Torah is the Old Testament.
1:13:47
John C Dvorak: Dignity, the tourism. Dettori is bigger than
1:13:52
the Old Testament is more to attend just the Old Testament.
1:13:55
Notice was taken from the Torah, as far as I know, I'm not
1:13:59
Jewish. Right? So let's go to the clip. You are so anxious,
1:14:04
Adam Curry: but it's Hold on a second. It's it's a cup. It's
1:14:08
several. It's like four or five books from the Old Testament.
1:14:10
And I don't know if it's bigger. I mean, it may be bigger to the
1:14:16
Jews. Don't believe in the New Testament that Jesus was not the
1:14:21
savior. He was a prophet, not the Son of God. Yeah. And they
1:14:25
still kind of stopped at an eye for an eye, which is how they're
1:14:28
feeling right now. To all these rays, like we're going to take
1:14:32
we're gonna gouge your eyes because you gouges our eye and
1:14:37
it would be nice if everybody had the love and peace of Jesus.
1:14:41
But okay, but that's neither here nor there. He says that,
1:14:46
yes.
1:14:48
John C Dvorak: His column if, let's say the Torah and the Old
1:14:51
Testament are exactly the same. Why wouldn't he say as a good
1:14:55
Catholic boy that the Old Testament is pandering,
1:15:00
patronizing. Patriots patronizing the audience. Yeah.
1:15:05
Adam Curry: Well, he's also lying. The guy lies about
1:15:08
everything. Yeah, he's a liar. And this one is a whopper.
1:15:12
John C Dvorak: Okay, now this was a whopper, you're gonna tell
1:15:14
us why it's a big lie. I looked at it, as you'll will, you will
1:15:18
soon see as a shaggy dog story the way he tells it. Let's go.
1:15:22
Unknown: I told the story before and I'll tell it again. My first
1:15:26
BT was an Israeli Prime Minister 50 years ago as the young
1:15:29
senator sitting across from golden years or desk in her
1:15:32
office, because she had a guy named a guy who later became
1:15:36
prime minister sitting next to me just before the 1973 Yom
1:15:41
Kippur war. As he flipped the maps up and down, telling me how
1:15:45
bad things were out to me. They were all of a sudden she looked
1:15:49
at me, she said, she'd like a photograph. I looked at her. She
1:15:53
got up from her desk and walked out into that hallway. I think
1:15:57
it's marble for walk down the hallway. Walk down there, a
1:16:01
bunch of photographers stand in front of us. We're standing
1:16:04
shoulder to shoulder without her looking at me. She said to me
1:16:08
knowing I live here. Why do you look so worried Senator Biden?
1:16:12
And I said worried? Like of course I'm worried. And she
1:16:17
looked at me and she didn't look she said we don't worry,
1:16:21
Senator. We Israelis have a secret weapon. We have nowhere
1:16:25
else to go. Or today I said all of Israel the United States is
1:16:30
going anywhere either.
1:16:38
Adam Curry: I didn't expect that. He's been telling this
1:16:41
story throughout his career and in this time, it was just before
1:16:45
the Yom Kippur War it's been during the Six Day War in the
1:16:49
past CNN has a whole article on this which is old missing one of
1:16:55
the one of this published from CNN, this is from 2021. He keeps
1:17:03
telling this story about Golden my air and like and then she I
1:17:06
want to take a picture. Now none of this. It's a corn pop story.
1:17:12
Yeah, totally corn, corn pop story. He's full of it. I don't
1:17:18
think I have the clip. But he was I tried to run it through
1:17:22
Adobe No way. Could I get it to work about him. Saying that.
1:17:29
Jews are not zombies. It's okay to be a Zionist. Did you hear
1:17:34
that?
1:17:35
John C Dvorak: Yeah, I remember something about this. I mean, it
1:17:38
is so here fumbling and mumbling about Zionist. So here's
1:17:41
Adam Curry: the here's the raw audio. I
1:17:44
Unknown: remember the first time that I was in Israel with
1:17:50
Adam Curry: that's almost an inaudible so I run it through
1:17:53
Adobe.
1:17:54
John C Dvorak: I can't I can kind of hear it.
1:17:55
Adam Curry: Well listen to what Adobe does to him.
1:17:57
Unknown: I remember the first time that I was in Israel with
1:18:03
the coordinator and she was just before with a 60 morning
1:18:09
Adam Curry: there he says Six Day War. Yeah. And he just in
1:18:13
your clip. Did you say Six Day War? He said no, no.
1:18:16
John C Dvorak: Yom Kippur war? Yom Kippur war.
1:18:19
Adam Curry: This is great. He confused it on the trip. I
1:18:22
didn't even I didn't even realize he had confused it on
1:18:25
the trip. Let's do it and she was telling me how weightless
1:18:29
let's use this
1:18:29
Unknown: was in Israel with me here she was just before the Six
1:18:34
Day War and she was telling me how terrible everything was. It
1:18:40
was she can flip the maps up and down behind her and all of a
1:18:44
sudden she looked at me she said would you like a photograph she
1:18:53
just got up and walked out
1:18:54
Adam Curry: outside her I'm so we got we caught him in the lies
1:18:57
exactly the same story. Yeah, except and that was before the
1:19:00
sixth day well, I didn't even realize he had he had he had
1:19:03
Bumble bat on this trip. Let's go to the Zionist part here
1:19:07
because the security and safety of Jews right here somewhere
1:19:14
Unknown: that we're in Israel in terms of the matter is that I
1:19:20
believe that
1:19:24
Adam Curry: I can't hear it
1:19:24
Unknown: terrible. Everything was great if they were in
1:19:28
Israel,
1:19:28
Adam Curry: we'd have to admit it. Why can't forget it? Forget
1:19:31
it. It's a I can't listen to it. It's so bad as funny this is
1:19:35
that's crazy because when you had that clip I'm like wow, you
1:19:38
found a clip of good audio I couldn't find that story with
1:19:41
good audio which is why I didn't clip it and now it turns out it
1:19:45
was before the the Yom Kippur War on your clip before the Six
1:19:49
Day War on my clip Wow, our president is a liar lost
1:19:55
John C Dvorak: it he's and he's a liar. He's a liar.
1:19:57
Unbelievable liar.
1:19:59
Adam Curry: Yeah. Let's listen to some hate from MSNBC that you
1:20:04
pointed out. NBC is all in on hating Israel. Why? I don't
1:20:09
know. I don't know why either other than they are the most
1:20:12
woke most leftist network.
1:20:15
John C Dvorak: Yeah, I think so. Here is Mark
1:20:17
Adam Curry: Lamont Hill, Danny Ireland. Thank
1:20:19
Unknown: you so much for joining me on upfront with the former
1:20:21
Adam Curry: Israeli deputy foreign minister.
1:20:24
Unknown: My pleasure.
1:20:26
The idea of collective punishment is one of the things
1:20:29
that we're talking about here. There are residential buildings
1:20:33
being hit, there are hospitals being hit. This is a densely
1:20:36
populated area, the idea of being able to run away or to
1:20:40
escape or go to a safe area seems impossible. Also,
1:20:43
according to your own military representatives, you've
1:20:46
abandoned the idea of knocking on roofs that is safe to say
1:20:50
giving a warning of dropping a non explosive munition on
1:20:53
buildings before people go so people aren't getting a warning,
1:20:56
they have nowhere to go residential building schools and
1:20:58
hospitals are being hit. How is this not again, an act of
1:21:03
collective punishment? And how is this not a target of civilian
1:21:06
unless of course you're regarding everybody in Gaza as
1:21:09
an enemy combatant.
1:21:10
Until you in a practical manner, what we should do and what we
1:21:13
can do create like in the past in history, a humanitarian
1:21:17
corridor when there is a humanitarian corridor and we
1:21:21
have been discussing this with the United States then we can
1:21:25
guarantee in this corridor that nobody will get hurt. Now again,
1:21:30
I say there is a way to receive them all on the other side for
1:21:34
temporary time on site because what did her master and on the
1:21:39
other side, we talked about Rafa, are you saying the other
1:21:41
side that go to
1:21:41
Egypt? Yes, absolutely. Absolutely. And Egypt will have
1:21:45
to play ball because this is human life is at stake.
1:21:50
Human life is at stake because you're cutting off power. You're
1:21:54
shutting down hospitals, you're bombing residential buildings.
1:21:57
Right now there is a hospital that has not does not have
1:22:00
sufficient power. There is a hospital where people are
1:22:03
literally going to die and Israelis Energy Minister Israel
1:22:09
Katz said no electrical switch will be turned on no hydrant
1:22:12
will be open no fuel trickle enter until the Israeli
1:22:15
abductees are returned home
1:22:22
Adam Curry: goes on and on and on and on want to play the rest
1:22:24
of that it's just it's it's just yeah, now but of course we need
1:22:27
to bring it home we need to bring the fear and the terror
1:22:30
home.
1:22:32
Unknown: ABC tonight a warning the war between Israel and Hamas
1:22:36
is increasing the chances of violence in the United States. A
1:22:39
new intelligence bulletin says potential targets include
1:22:42
individuals and institutions Andrew Horowitz This is for you
1:22:46
perceived as symbolic of or tied to the conflict. There are
1:22:50
stepped up patrols at synagogues in Los Angeles, more crowd
1:22:53
control in Washington DC and in New York, the nation's largest
1:22:56
police force has called in reinforcements instructing all
1:23:00
officers to prepare to work 12 hour shifts.
1:23:03
There's a lot of tension that's taking place right now. And this
1:23:07
can play out on our streets.
1:23:08
The FBI is not aware of any organized plots, but the fear is
1:23:12
someone acting alone. Like the man charged in the murder of a
1:23:16
six year old boy near Chicago and Walla dia Alfa Yun was
1:23:19
buried this week after police said he was stabbed to death by
1:23:22
his landlord because he was Muslim.
1:23:24
Adam Curry: Yeah, that makes sense. That makes sense. I have
1:23:26
that story. I
1:23:26
John C Dvorak: want to play this story. Just make one comment.
1:23:30
This is the this is the odd riots and maniac war in this
1:23:37
again, NBC so
1:23:40
Unknown: in Washington, DC dozens were arrested at the
1:23:42
Capitol during a rally of Jewish Americans calling for a
1:23:46
ceasefire. And in suburban Chicago last night, more than
1:23:51
1500 people packed a vigil for a Palestinian American boy he was
1:23:56
a child. A child filled with love. And not any hate
1:23:59
prosecutors saying six year old one dia alpha you meet was
1:24:03
stabbed dozens of times by his family's landlord who they say
1:24:06
was angry about the Hamas attacks. Joseph zuba faces
1:24:10
murder and hate crime charges in Illinois and has not yet entered
1:24:13
a plea. A child taken and a country on edge as war wages on
1:24:19
a world away.
1:24:20
Adam Curry: That's exactly what you want it I don't believe this
1:24:22
at all.
1:24:24
John C Dvorak: Well, I kind of believe it. And I'll tell you
1:24:27
why. Again, it could be just part of the hope thesis button.
1:24:32
So they show a picture the guy yeah. That guy looks like a
1:24:37
lunatic. He's like I've got a inexplicably homely looking old
1:24:43
man. That is just looks like he's nuts. And I tried them to
1:24:49
kind of believe a lot of it because it just seemed like you
1:24:52
got some screwball the guy just looks the guy looks wrong. Okay,
1:24:56
so
1:24:56
Adam Curry: people are being riled up and this is the result
1:24:59
of it. Yeah, yeah. Well, this is this is what you get this is
1:25:03
this is what everybody is
1:25:04
John C Dvorak: to blame the media as far as I'm concerned.
1:25:06
That's right. There's one more
1:25:07
Adam Curry: from NBC now tonight,
1:25:09
John C Dvorak: by the way, by the way, that last one was from
1:25:12
NBC that when you play before us from NBC so NBC News playing
1:25:15
this story, that was ABC. Okay, well, my last one
1:25:19
Adam Curry: was NBC. This is NBC.
1:25:21
Unknown: Tonight, authorities in the US ramping up security amid
1:25:24
warnings about potential violence mounting nationwide
1:25:27
over the Israel Hamas war in New York, the NYPD ordering officers
1:25:32
indefinitely to be uniformed and ready to deploy. American
1:25:36
officials and private analysts telling NBC News extremists are
1:25:39
flooding social media with calls for attacks on Jewish
1:25:42
communities and other targets in the US and Europe, with groups
1:25:46
linked to al Qaeda and American Neo Nazis seeking to exploit the
1:25:50
war. According to intelligence memos obtained by NBC News, a
1:25:55
Homeland Security Official telling NBC News DHS is
1:25:58
monitoring a heightened threat environment in
1:26:01
Adam Curry: now that a think about it. How to think about it.
1:26:04
This is all intended these reports about you know, ba so
1:26:09
dangerous for Jews in America. This is being ramped up to make
1:26:14
sure that we hate Trump. Because that's exactly the result. I
1:26:19
told you I heard from that from my hairdresser that everyone is
1:26:22
freaking out in Austin. Oh, oh no. If Trump if Trump becomes
1:26:27
president, all Jews will be killed. What? Yes, yes. Where
1:26:32
does
1:26:32
John C Dvorak: that come from? Do they know that his daughter's
1:26:34
Jewish and he might need to
1:26:37
Adam Curry: stop with your logic. This is this is people
1:26:41
are not of sane mind anymore. They're not of sound mind. I
1:26:46
should so tied
1:26:47
Unknown: up and American Neo Nazis seeking to exploit the
1:26:50
war. According to intelligence memos obtained by NBC News. A
1:26:54
Homeland Security Official telling NBC News DHS is
1:26:57
monitoring a heightened threat environment in the US
1:27:00
Adam Curry: heightened threat environment. We have an HTTP
1:27:04
everybody.
1:27:05
Unknown: The FBI also by the way,
1:27:07
John C Dvorak: this this is mimicking the Bush
1:27:10
administration because it worked so well to get him reelected.
1:27:13
You know, we
1:27:13
Adam Curry: need we need to bring back the color code again.
1:27:16
John C Dvorak: I was thinking the same thing.
1:27:19
Adam Curry: Orange orange threat level orange everybody who's
1:27:22
Unknown: a Homeland Security Official telling NBC News DHS is
1:27:25
monitoring a heightened threat environment in the US. The FBI
1:27:30
also on high alert. We stay laser
1:27:32
focused on mitigating those threats. Tonight.
1:27:35
The NYPD is Hate Crimes Unit asking for the public's help
1:27:38
finding this man who they say punched a woman in a subway
1:27:41
station Saturday telling her he did it quote because you are
1:27:44
Jewish. This as protests continue across the country. In
1:27:49
Washington, DC dozens were arrested at the Capitol during a
1:27:52
rally of Jewish Americans calling for a ceasefire.
1:27:56
Adam Curry: I love how it's a rally. Now. This rally. It used
1:28:00
to be insurrection. But now it's a rally
1:28:02
Unknown: during a rally of Jewish Americans calling for a
1:28:05
ceasefire. And in suburban Chicago last night, more than
1:28:10
1500 people packed a vigil for a Palestinian American boy
1:28:15
he was a child a child filled with love. And not any hate
1:28:18
prosecutor saying six year old one dia alpha you meet was
1:28:22
stabbed dozens of times by his family's landlord who they say
1:28:25
was angry about the Hamas attacks Joseph zuba faces murder
1:28:29
and hate crime charges in Illinois and has not yet entered
1:28:32
a plea a child taken and a country on edge as war wages on
1:28:38
a world away
1:28:39
Adam Curry: country on edge country on edge be on edge
1:28:43
people be on edge be afraid be worried go outside. Do you
1:28:49
please go outside if you can afford to go outside and tell me
1:28:52
if you if there's war all around you? Is there someone right
1:28:57
there ready to punch you in the face strike you right your face
1:29:01
right? You I listened to DHL unplug it you I mean you kind of
1:29:07
glossed over it but Horowitz said I'm a little worried about
1:29:10
it.
1:29:11
John C Dvorak: Yeah, I try to calm him down. Good job Lord and
1:29:15
for God's sake. That's
1:29:16
Adam Curry: that was that was your way if you're in Florida,
1:29:19
what are you talking about? Andrew Wallace is a very is he's
1:29:25
a solid guy. And he's worried he's getting spun up.
1:29:30
John C Dvorak: The course he's get everybody gets spun up. Do
1:29:33
you got to stop? Two of us now. Did you see clarify? podcasters
1:29:40
Adam Curry: podcasters save the day. Did you catch Claire daily?
1:29:45
John C Dvorak: No, I do have one more clip before we play Claire.
1:29:48
Adam Curry: Okay. All right.
1:29:49
John C Dvorak: Good work. All right. This is the actually two
1:29:53
more first of all since we've been playing all these clips. I
1:29:56
want to just play this six second little short clip Which
1:30:00
to me epitomizes all the reporting on all the all the
1:30:05
Middle Eastern media and this is from Al Jazeera and the way they
1:30:08
just do the matter of fact about the hospital goes like this. I O
1:30:14
matter of fact, I got it
1:30:15
Unknown: have taken to the streets after the Israeli attack
1:30:18
on an utterly Baptist Hospital in Gaza, which killed hundreds
1:30:21
of people
1:30:23
John C Dvorak: said, That's it. After the Israeli attack. That's
1:30:26
all they say. They don't say don't say what could have been
1:30:28
but just allegedly No way.
1:30:31
Adam Curry: Did he just say this was a Baptist Hospital. I think
1:30:34
it's called that Yeah. Interesting.
1:30:37
John C Dvorak: That's another little tidbit they leave out of
1:30:39
our coverage. That's very interesting. Yeah. Baptist I
1:30:44
think it Yeah, no, I
1:30:45
Unknown: think it was taken to the streets after the Israeli
1:30:47
attack on an utterly Baptist Hospital in Gaza which killed
1:30:51
Adam Curry: was the guy's name Allah He Baptiste maybe that's
1:30:54
there's no
1:30:54
John C Dvorak: I think it's a Baptist. I know. There's a
1:30:57
Christian we will look into it
1:30:58
Adam Curry: as a Christian Hospital in in Gaza Strip. Why
1:31:02
not? believable,
1:31:05
John C Dvorak: where else would you put them? So they have this
1:31:10
is a report on again from Democracy Now. War journalists
1:31:16
dead.
1:31:17
Unknown: Israel's reportedly set to ban Al Jazeera as operations
1:31:21
in the country over its coverage of the war. Al Jazeera is one of
1:31:25
the few global media networks that has reporters on the ground
1:31:30
in Gaza. In related news, the Committee to Protect Journalists
1:31:34
that at least 17 media workers had been killed since the start
1:31:37
of the war. 13 of them Palestinian, three Israeli and
1:31:41
one Lebanese.
1:31:43
Adam Curry: What I can't believe that those big flak jackets with
1:31:46
huge words press didn't save their lives.
1:31:50
John C Dvorak: Yeah, they're the newer ones. They shoot me.
1:31:53
Adam Curry: I saw Richard angle. He says media.
1:31:57
John C Dvorak: Yeah, and he's got a dumb helmet on.
1:32:00
Adam Curry: Yeah. But it's his Flak Jacket is huge words media.
1:32:04
Yeah, I saw that. Do they seriously think that? I mean, it
1:32:08
used to be Red Cross. Don't shoot him. Yeah. Now he's media.
1:32:11
He's helpful.
1:32:13
John C Dvorak: He's Elbit us.
1:32:14
Adam Curry: So Claire Daly Irish representative in the European
1:32:18
Union,
1:32:19
John C Dvorak: who we follow closely with Yes, we this is our
1:32:21
favorite socialist chick. She's a socialist
1:32:24
Adam Curry: and man. Something happened this was not a good
1:32:29
look for her. I mean, she looks Claire Daly usually looks you
1:32:34
know she's a Birkenstock with your with her dress type lady
1:32:37
kind of in general.
1:32:39
John C Dvorak: She's kind of a she looks
1:32:41
Adam Curry: Jaggard Chuck haggard in this she. She
1:32:44
John C Dvorak: I think most of the time she's pretty haggard.
1:32:46
Adam Curry: No, no, no, no, not like this one that she had a
1:32:49
sweatshirt on and I don't know what happened. But she anyway,
1:32:53
she was pretty angry. At Queen Ursula. Queen or slow who went
1:33:00
right away with her Flak Jacket and you see her whether she must
1:33:03
be three feet tall. This Ursula
1:33:05
John C Dvorak: she has. She's she's a little shorty this you
1:33:08
get a little petite
1:33:09
Adam Curry: little a little flak jacket on that said queen. Don't
1:33:12
hit don't. Queen. Claire Dana was pretty angry about this.
1:33:18
Unknown: I've been involved in politics for 40 years, but I
1:33:21
have never seen anything like what is being unleashed in Gaza
1:33:26
in full public view. While the world watches it unfold 10 days
1:33:32
of relentless airstrikes. One in 1000 people murdered by the
1:33:37
Israeli government in a week, open declarations of siege 24
1:33:42
hours of fuel, electricity and water left collective punishment
1:33:47
on innocent people, all illegal, all war crimes. And when the EU
1:33:52
should have been arguing for a ceasefire for the upholding of
1:33:56
international law for the protection of civilians, Ursula
1:34:00
von der Leyen torches down in Tel Aviv to photo up the
1:34:04
preparation of a genocide and says your upstands when Israel
1:34:09
now and in the days to come, how dare she she has no authority in
1:34:15
foreign affairs matter. She does not speak for me. She does not
1:34:19
speak for Ireland, and she does not speak for the citizens of
1:34:23
Europe. We stand for peace. We stand for justice for the people
1:34:27
of Palestine and for the upholding of international law.
1:34:30
It's long past the time that this woman exited the stage.
1:34:34
It's time for her to go.
1:34:37
Adam Curry: It makes a good point that Ursula von der Leyen
1:34:39
pretends to be speak for the year like she's the president,
1:34:42
the queen of Europe.
1:34:44
John C Dvorak: She's not the only one of Claire's not the
1:34:47
only one who has made this commentary. They're getting a
1:34:50
little annoyed with her going around things. She's like the
1:34:52
foreign secretary of the EU or whatever she thinks she is the
1:34:56
Queen Queen, and it's getting done. on people's nerves.
1:35:03
Adam Curry: Europe is I hate to say it but Europe is done for
1:35:07
you're done for Yeah, you're done for that, of course, you
1:35:11
know, hey Europe while we have no money at the moment, but that
1:35:14
may change tonight we'll see what the President says. You've
1:35:17
got to remember to keep funding Ukraine keep funding them keep
1:35:21
fun. I'm hearing noise that Ukrainians are pretty sick and
1:35:24
tired of Zelinsky now they were supposed to have an election
1:35:28
which is obviously
1:35:29
John C Dvorak: not canceled elections so you'd be king
1:35:31
Adam Curry: any a also just outlawed the Christian Orthodox
1:35:37
Church,
1:35:37
John C Dvorak: right, the opposition parties. A democracy
1:35:41
we gotta
1:35:43
Adam Curry: fight for its democracy. But the most well, I
1:35:46
play one more clip and the and then I think we were all clipped
1:35:49
out on this. I mean, we've played clips from all sides. And
1:35:52
there's a point to it, these ladies would say we're looking
1:35:55
at which is BBC with. Hold on a second. This is the BBC was this
1:36:03
without? Oh, this is Daniel Levy. He is the former Israeli
1:36:08
peace negotiator,
1:36:09
Unknown: the Israelis would say we're looking at we are
1:36:11
defending ourselves, we are targeting Hamas targets in Gaza,
1:36:14
we are trying to put an end to what we believe is a terrorist
1:36:18
organization once and for all.
1:36:21
Adam Curry: Let me think about that.
1:36:22
Unknown: Do you really keep a straight face? When you say
1:36:24
that? Do you think terrorist organizations embedded in
1:36:28
populations who are denied their most basic rights are ended once
1:36:32
and for all in a military campaign? Does that happen in
1:36:35
history? Can someone credibly tell me that when the leadership
1:36:40
of a country says we are cutting off food, electricity, water all
1:36:44
supplies to an entire civilian population, that they're
1:36:47
targeting militants? I'm sorry, these kinds of lies can't be
1:36:51
allowed to pass. And when you tell yourself the lie, it leads
1:36:55
to the wrong policy. If anyone told me that what the militants
1:37:00
did on the weekend was a legitimate response to years and
1:37:05
years of occupation, I would say no, you're wrong headed. You've
1:37:08
lost sight of humanity and reality. And if anyone tells me
1:37:12
that what Israel is doing in Gaza today is a legitimate
1:37:15
response to what happened on the weekend. It's exactly the same.
1:37:19
And yet they are saying it and yet the international community
1:37:21
is saying
1:37:22
people need to challenge them on it, because it's a lie. And
1:37:25
we're war mongering, if we allow them to get away with it.
1:37:29
Adam Curry: What team is he on? The other team, according to the
1:37:34
president, whatever team so I think we should just all remind
1:37:38
ourselves, that war is a racket is very good for business. Once
1:37:44
the money printer starts going, war always has to be funded by
1:37:47
borrowing or printing and borrowing is kind of two sides
1:37:52
of the same thing. There's a lot of a lot of financial markets
1:37:58
are waiting there. They'll benefit from it. Everybody wants
1:38:00
this. This is what it's about. It has really very little to do
1:38:06
with Israel and Palestine, Hamas, Jews Muslim, it's all
1:38:11
just yeah,
1:38:12
John C Dvorak: we weren't spending enough money. Nope. On
1:38:15
Ukraine, we're trying to
1:38:17
Adam Curry: well, we get we're gonna we think somehow they've
1:38:19
already approved the four bagger the 100 billion is already in
1:38:22
the pocket somehow. For Israel, it's well, it's for Israel and
1:38:28
Ukraine. And what I'm hearing now is that the President
1:38:31
tonight will ask Congress for more, in addition to that 100
1:38:34
billion, which I'm sure probably he's coming from an accounting
1:38:37
error inside the Pentagon.
1:38:39
John C Dvorak: Well, he is he is going to be jacked up.
1:38:44
Adam Curry: I think you have claimed he's talking about
1:38:47
John C Dvorak: it and about where America we're America and
1:38:50
there's nothing we can't do. And he's gonna yell at yell at, he's
1:38:55
gonna yell all that stuff that if he's jacked up, and he's
1:39:00
going to ask for a lot of money. And as we heard from the LG
1:39:03
Azuro report, where that woman was in the rotunda where they
1:39:06
were having the protests she said they asked for a ceasefire
1:39:10
and the Congress and nobody's now No, so it's everyone's gonna
1:39:14
be behind this at least our legislator, people. We need war
1:39:18
you need we're all good. Good for it. And so except for Rand
1:39:22
Paul, probably two other guys.
1:39:25
Adam Curry: Rand Paul be like, it came from the Wuhan lab. Rand
1:39:30
Paul, wrong talking point. Goodbye. So
1:39:33
John C Dvorak: Rand Paul say no throw Fauci in jail. Yeah, yeah.
1:39:37
And that'll be that and David, we're gonna end up with this
1:39:40
mess and, okay, I don't know how they're gonna do it. Deal with
1:39:44
it, but I think they're gonna maybe we'll go boots on the
1:39:48
ground would just pummel I still think it would probably be. You
1:39:51
can find the neighborhoods that everyone knows where they are
1:39:53
where the mall is live. You rock hound them to oblivion in that
1:39:58
area. Those
1:40:00
Adam Curry: Will that and will that settle Muslims around the
1:40:02
world? Will that make them feel boy? Yeah,
1:40:03
John C Dvorak: everyone's good. Well, you know, the she, she as
1:40:06
Sunni thing is still a little thing. Yes. About time you got
1:40:10
those guys? Yeah. You know, no, you have no idea.
1:40:15
Adam Curry: No one has an idea other than
1:40:19
John C Dvorak: good for business, it's
1:40:20
Adam Curry: good for business. Now I'm so worried about all
1:40:26
these groups and people and you remember the intellectual dark
1:40:31
web? Vaguely the intellectual dark web? Yeah, it was the
1:40:37
intellectuals. Well, now we have something called the Westminster
1:40:41
declaration. And I'm surprised you were not asked to sign this.
1:40:45
What is it? The Westminster declaration? Quote, open
1:40:50
discourse is the central pillar of a free society.
1:40:55
John C Dvorak: Rather, yeah. So this is twice as my second
1:40:58
brother for the day.
1:40:59
Adam Curry: Yeah. Westminster declaration.org. And I and I'll
1:41:04
just read a little bit because this just came to my attention.
1:41:07
I think it's relatively new. We write as journalists, artists,
1:41:12
authors, activist technologists, and academics to warn of
1:41:16
increasing international censorship that threatens to
1:41:19
erode centuries old democratic norms,
1:41:23
John C Dvorak: no.
1:41:25
Adam Curry: New you'd love it. Coming from the left, right and
1:41:28
center, we are united by our commitment to universal human
1:41:31
rights and freedom of speech. And we are all deeply concerned
1:41:34
about attempts to label protected speech as
1:41:37
misinformation, disinformation, and other ill defined terms. The
1:41:43
abuse of these terms has resulted in the censorship of
1:41:46
ordinary people, journalists and dissidents in countries all over
1:41:51
the world. Across the globe, government actors, social media,
1:41:54
companies, universities and NGOs are increasingly working to
1:41:58
monitor citizens and rob them of their voices. These large scale
1:42:03
coordinated efforts are sometimes referred to as the
1:42:06
censorship industrial complex. I never heard that one. It's
1:42:11
what's only sometimes I do have to write that down the
1:42:16
censorship industrial complex. So and they don't
1:42:24
John C Dvorak: think about oh, yeah,
1:42:25
Adam Curry: they go on and on and on. About. Let's see,
1:42:30
John C Dvorak: what's it got to do with West minister? I don't
1:42:33
know. What's the connection to West ministry, Twitter
1:42:36
Adam Curry: files revealed tech five tech companies are often
1:42:39
performing since Oreo content moderation in coordination with
1:42:42
God. So this is a bunch of Yahoo's who are pissed off that
1:42:47
they don't control Twitter.
1:42:50
John C Dvorak: So you see, there's a bunch of lefties. So
1:42:52
I'm gonna, I'm gonna tell you
1:42:53
Adam Curry: who it is. But let me first tell you what they what
1:42:56
they for the sake of human welfare and flourishing, we make
1:42:59
the following three calls to action. We call on governments
1:43:04
and international organizations to fulfill their
1:43:05
responsibilities to the people and uphold article 19 of the
1:43:09
Universal Declaration of Human Rights. I don't even know what
1:43:13
there's
1:43:15
John C Dvorak: a copy of that.
1:43:16
Adam Curry: Look up a copy. We call on tech corporations to
1:43:20
undertake to protect the Digital Public Square Twitter, as
1:43:23
defined in article 19 of the Universal Declaration on Human
1:43:27
Rights and refrain from politically motivated
1:43:30
censorship, the censorship of Dissident Voices and censorship
1:43:33
of political opinion. These are people who are so misguided.
1:43:37
They think that social media is the Digital Public Square. And
1:43:42
finally, we call on the general public to join us in the fight
1:43:46
to preserve the people's democratic rights. legislative
1:43:49
changes are not enough. We must also build an atmosphere of free
1:43:53
speech from the ground up by rejecting the climate of
1:43:55
intolerance that encourages self censorship and creates
1:43:58
unnecessary personal Strife for many, instead of fear and
1:44:02
dogmatism. We must embrace inquiry and debate. Who do you
1:44:06
think sign this? This is the elite of the Twitterati ready?
1:44:12
I'm ready. Matt Taibbi journalist us Michael
1:44:16
Shellenberger Jonathan Haidt. Steven Pinker. Tim Robbins.
1:44:26
John C Dvorak: Tim Robbins, actor, actor. Yes.
1:44:30
Adam Curry: Richard Dawkins, John Cleese, Oliver Stone.
1:44:37
Edward Snowden, Glenn Greenwald, Jordan, Dr. Jordan B. Peterson.
1:44:43
Barry Weiss, Peter Hitchens. Niall Ferguson. Yamas viral
1:44:49
Varoufakis is your buddy yeah, the guy who we talked about
1:44:56
Chris Hedges ah, ally here. She Ayaan Hirsi Ali. Let me find
1:45:05
some more that we know here. It's not a lot of people, Brett
1:45:08
Weinstein. People are
1:45:13
John C Dvorak: in there too, Eric. No,
1:45:15
Adam Curry: he's not funny enough. Is not let me see if
1:45:18
there's anyone else who has a bunch of people I don't know.
1:45:23
It's nothing. It's all you know, college people. But this is done
1:45:27
in order of appearance. So I'm presuming this is a, you know, a
1:45:31
tie EB Greenwald type thing. And we all got a promotion for them.
1:45:36
We all got together in Westminster, then yeah, why is
1:45:40
John C Dvorak: the like, explain it. Well, this is paralleling
1:45:45
the new FCC chairman who just announced Yes, yeah, they're
1:45:49
pulling back they're pulling back on all the Trump stuff net
1:45:52
neutrality net neutrality back in play, which means of course
1:45:57
technically, net neutrality means for example, I have one of
1:46:03
my connections is Sonic and they have a gigabyte or gigabit
1:46:09
gigabit connection I can Yes. And they have a two gigabit but
1:46:15
it seems to me if I read net neutrality correctly you can't
1:46:18
do that
1:46:21
Adam Curry: no, you have to give everybody equal gigabits
1:46:24
John C Dvorak: everybody has to have the equal gigabits that
1:46:27
means instead of gay having the opportunity to get two gigabits
1:46:30
and I gotta give everybody two gigabit now we're cutting back
1:46:32
on your bits. So everything goes down. So all it does is become a
1:46:36
good becomes, you know, we go back down we go to the mean, we
1:46:40
go to the the we go, it downgrades every that's what net
1:46:44
neutrality is meant to do. Yes. Dialog. Raise the speeds will
1:46:48
slow down. I
1:46:49
Adam Curry: love for everybody. Yes. No. We have looked at this
1:46:54
ad nauseam years ago during Obama within the Obama
1:46:59
administration. And the main sticking point for me because I
1:47:03
was I was walking the dog this morning and reading this. I had
1:47:06
read this before I went out and like, Oh, they're gonna bring
1:47:09
this back. The main sticking point was equal equal traffic,
1:47:15
except illegal traffic. You remember that?
1:47:20
John C Dvorak: Well, yeah, they're just a way of getting
1:47:22
porn off the internet,
1:47:23
Adam Curry: no illegal traffic, it has nothing to do with the
1:47:28
content. It is the protocol. So Tor, and torrents would be seen
1:47:35
as illegal content.
1:47:37
John C Dvorak: Okay, that's right. I'm trying to remember
1:47:40
the trick. That's the trick. Yes, to get rid of movie
1:47:45
sharing, or
1:47:46
Adam Curry: you know, Tor is good for you know, object
1:47:49
John C Dvorak: storage good for a lot of stuff is a fantastic
1:47:52
product, a guy who did it is something of a coding genius.
1:47:56
But if it's if deep packs, deep packet sniffing is in play, you
1:48:02
can see as a Tor stream, and it once you recognize it, it
1:48:06
becomes like, oh, no, you can't do that. There goes all your
1:48:10
people who download movies, which is about 70% of the net.
1:48:14
It'll free up some bandwidth, that's for sure.
1:48:19
Adam Curry: I did want to play one last Israel clip so
1:48:25
apparently, we got duped. The clip of the laser dome was was a
1:48:31
hoax. The laser dome was a hoax. That was supposedly footage from
1:48:37
a video game. And it was not true. So clip did
1:48:41
John C Dvorak: we play that was a hoax. We
1:48:42
Adam Curry: didn't play the clip. I said that Sir Brian of
1:48:45
London who was very apologetic about this.
1:48:48
John C Dvorak: He said, Oh, that yeah, you read his note. I
1:48:50
didn't. Yeah, I looked into this too. In the meantime, after we
1:48:54
win iced tea, but I made a mistake. I've made a call bla
1:48:57
and this was I said, Why just pay? I thought it was a Patriot
1:48:59
Missile system from Raytheon. But no, it's developed by
1:49:05
Israel. Yes. And it's a completely alien system that I
1:49:10
guess it works well.
1:49:11
Adam Curry: Okay. So what we immediately got was, it's fake.
1:49:15
It's a hoax. It's from video game footage. It's not true. But
1:49:18
then France. 24 does this.
1:49:22
Unknown: And now it's even more tried to fill in the gaps, the
1:49:25
potential gaps in the Israeli aerial system. The Israeli DOD
1:49:29
and the company have failed. The Israeli company have been
1:49:32
developing this time a laser based anti missile defense
1:49:35
system called the laser beam, as you said, and according to some
1:49:39
sources, close to the Israeli DOD, they could indeed decide to
1:49:43
deploy that system earlier than what was expected. And one of
1:49:47
the reasons why is that this is actually a very cost effective
1:49:50
system because it only cost about $4 per launch compared to
1:49:54
$50,000. I was talking about with the Iron Dome. Now how does
1:49:59
it work this is a mobile laser cannon that can really turn to
1:50:03
here you can see these pictures footage from the company have
1:50:06
failed trying out its system, but it can really turn to dust
1:50:09
rockets, missiles, drones in a split second, the laser beam is
1:50:13
of about 100 kilowatts.
1:50:16
Looking at some of the best technology in the world at the
1:50:18
moment in terms of no defense system, but the ion beam hasn't
1:50:21
been deployed yet.
1:50:22
No. And it's important to stress that because on social media
1:50:25
networks, we've been seeing videos that purported to show
1:50:28
this this this laser beam, but it isn't actually this is a
1:50:33
fake. I want to show you those pictures. These are a night
1:50:36
pictures of course. But this is actually footage from Arma three
1:50:40
which is a video game that is known because it's particularly
1:50:42
realistic with its realistic graphics now, we are indeed when
1:50:47
we're talking about these laser beams, we are talking about the
1:50:49
future of defense systems, many countries around the world are
1:50:52
trying to develop their own systems here in France. Albion
1:50:55
for instance, is developing something called Alma P which
1:50:59
could actually be used by security forces here in France
1:51:02
to secure the French capital for instance during the 2024
1:51:08
Olympics. Now all of these systems that we've been talking
1:51:11
about have also been purchased by other countries Germany for
1:51:14
instance, recently purchased arrow three and even Finland
1:51:19
purchase David slings anti defense system
1:51:22
Adam Curry: I love it direct the real fire ran
1:51:27
John C Dvorak: a TV station I would give this report and then
1:51:30
I would have a video of an old Apple two game called Missile
1:51:35
Command shooting the things out of the air or and then cut the
1:51:41
Space Invaders Yeah, asteroids asteroids because you have to
1:51:46
have you know you have to have some Twitch skills to be able to
1:51:49
use these things although I'm debt system I'm sure it's all
1:51:52
computerized you don't to do anything. Push a button. Yeah,
1:51:56
this is bounded what eventually that system has to go into play.
1:52:00
Adam Curry: Oh, yeah. Well, I now the way she said this is
1:52:03
obviously night footage, but it's from a game to me. They
1:52:08
were using it to testing it out. But what better opportunity to
1:52:12
test it out right now. As he goes over there, they're
1:52:16
accelerating it why wouldn't you just use it? The French are
1:52:19
going to be frying people during the Olympics. I don't know why.
1:52:27
I can just see them using it. Now where am I not what a world
1:52:31
we're in man. What a world we got lasers that are the gist.
1:52:36
And if you see the video, it doesn't burn them up. It turns
1:52:40
them to dust. Well, Dad, I don't believe well, that's what that
1:52:44
was the demo was that that's that's in the sales brochure. I
1:52:47
think it's just disabled in the brochure. Not Freising.
1:52:50
Freising, Miss cool. Very cool. Okay, well, all this is going on
1:52:57
with everyone's focuses and attention is on the Middle East
1:53:01
and on Biden and Ben, just everything. We're not even
1:53:05
talking about Ukraine anymore. Funny how that works. China that
1:53:11
you go on, they're doing their own thing.
1:53:13
Unknown: Morning Stewart. It was launched in 2013. And he's one
1:53:16
of Sujan pings a signature signature policies. And as we're
1:53:20
about to see, it's really undergone a Trump's
1:53:22
transformation in the last 10 years. Beijing now says it has
1:53:26
inked Oh, close to $2 trillion in contracts around the world
1:53:30
contracts that cover a wide array of different investments,
1:53:35
roads, high speed rail, ports, energy infrastructure, among
1:53:39
others. Over the course of 10 years, the number of signatories
1:53:44
to the project has gone from eight members in 2013 to now
1:53:48
150. And this is the
1:53:50
Adam Curry: Belt and Road Initiative and they had a big
1:53:51
meeting in China. Everyone showed up Hey,
1:53:55
John C Dvorak: Putin was there I believe,
1:53:57
Adam Curry: Putin, he's like, Hey, let's do our own thing.
1:54:01
Unknown: Representatives from about 130 countries are
1:54:05
gathering at this year's summit in the Chinese capital many
1:54:08
arguments are made for and against the Belton Road
1:54:11
initiative. On the plus side, it's been a much needed vector
1:54:14
for investments, development and economic growth for global south
1:54:19
countries on the downside, it has saddled many nations with
1:54:23
huge levels of external debt while in many instances also
1:54:27
causing environment environmental harm and inviting
1:54:32
opportunities for corruption. But the Belton Road initiative
1:54:34
today is not the same project it was 10 years ago, in part
1:54:38
because of a response to these criticisms. Researchers have
1:54:41
found that as China's economic growth is slowing down the days
1:54:44
of seemingly seemingly unlimited overseas borrowing are coming to
1:54:49
an end to China's total overseas development finances only just
1:54:53
below $5 billion in 2021. And far from the peak seen in In
1:55:00
2016, just under $90 billion for that year, that's because
1:55:05
China's overseas investment policy is now to try and focus
1:55:09
on smaller and greener projects.
1:55:15
Adam Curry: Is China getting caught up in the in global and
1:55:18
climate change? Or they do more green projects?
1:55:21
John C Dvorak: I don't know what that's all about seems unlikely
1:55:24
to have avoided it like the plague seems unlikely.
1:55:30
Adam Curry: I'm, I'm thinking we delayed just a little bit
1:55:33
longer. We get everything in because I think that donation
1:55:35
segmented being our 16 100th episode will be a little longer
1:55:38
than normal.
1:55:40
John C Dvorak: It'll be long. But I guess it might be my
1:55:43
favorite story. I will say this at the end of the show. Kind of
1:55:48
just kind of a pathetic story. I got an oddball story about
1:55:52
Venezuela that I thought was like, where's just I haven't
1:55:55
heard.
1:55:56
Unknown: The government of Venezuelan President Nicolas
1:55:59
Maduro and opposition leaders have agreed to new rules ahead
1:56:02
of next year's presidential election. The move is expected
1:56:05
to clear the way for the United States to ease its harsh
1:56:08
sanctions on Venezuela, which have wrecked the economy,
1:56:11
forcing millions to flay. As part of the agreement, the
1:56:14
Venezuelan Government will allow all political parties to choose
1:56:17
their candidates grant permission to delegations from
1:56:20
the UN in the European Union to observe elections and give equal
1:56:23
media access to all campaigns,
1:56:25
Adam Curry: there was some kind of deal. This is why the
1:56:27
Venezuelans are getting preferential treatment when they
1:56:30
show no
1:56:31
John C Dvorak: some deal went down. Yeah, and this is just a
1:56:34
part of it. I don't know what the whole thing is. But it has a
1:56:36
lot to do with getting oil back on track, as we used to see, I
1:56:40
think the cynical or what they said a guy who I forget which
1:56:43
company but there's one company that was a major provider of
1:56:47
gasoline in the United States. And they sit go, maybe Citko
1:56:51
Yeah, I think so go, and they would bring this Venezuelan
1:56:55
crude and and refine it. And it would be it's a big loss to us
1:56:58
not to have the Venezuelan crude oil into our system for
1:57:02
gasoline. And I think that at some point, we decided, you
1:57:06
know, it's better than we can still talk a big game about not
1:57:10
drilling here, but we got to get this Venezuelan oil on back
1:57:13
online. They're huge. They got a monster field.
1:57:17
Adam Curry: Right. Is that the right kind of crude? Is it the
1:57:19
the good stuff?
1:57:20
John C Dvorak: It's a good crude for us? Yeah, yeah. It's not a
1:57:25
dirty crude. Well, we looked it up. But my understanding is that
1:57:30
most of the South American crude is pretty clean, but we've
1:57:32
Adam Curry: got a lot of Venezuelans coming into the
1:57:34
United States. And oh, man, I actually I should I should play.
1:57:38
I've got two migration replacement clips. The first one
1:57:44
is an update from Chicago. Oh, my goodness. It is not good in
1:57:48
Chicago, that there's like 40 buses a day showing up. And this
1:57:53
is a local Chicago report. The Chicago ones are mad that
1:57:57
getting really mad now what's happening. We are learning
1:58:00
Unknown: much more about the migrant crisis here in Chicago.
1:58:03
I spoke to Christina Pacioli as is the city's first Deputy Chief
1:58:06
of Staff. She gave me insight on how the crisis is impacting the
1:58:09
city and state financially.
1:58:12
We have more people coming in than we actually have
1:58:15
transitioning out of shelters.
1:58:18
Already this week. 41 buses have rolled into Chicago that means
1:58:22
there are now 11,000 migrants living in shelters. 4000 are
1:58:26
still sleeping on police station floors and staying at the
1:58:29
airports. There have been calls by city officials to close the
1:58:35
end of Chicago shelter site after report.
1:58:38
Adam Curry: This is really interesting. The enough Chicago
1:58:40
shelter site and they have this picture in of Chicago Miracle
1:58:45
Mile. So this is on the Miracle Mile which is the shopping
1:58:47
street.
1:58:48
John C Dvorak: Yes, the base. The main part of this the best
1:58:50
part of town in of
1:58:51
Adam Curry: Chicago is is a kind of a nice hotel. It's not a
1:58:55
shelter spot. They're paying this hotel, and of course the
1:58:59
hotels like be as good. Bring them all in here. But it's not
1:59:03
like the Roosevelt, New York. This is a nice hotel, and the
1:59:06
website is up and this is like no vacancies. Yeah. No kidding.
1:59:12
Here we go.
1:59:13
John C Dvorak: know, when I go to the airport, I see a bunch of
1:59:16
people camped around in the airport. And that's really
1:59:19
inexcusable.
1:59:20
Adam Curry: Oh, and you see it upon arrival. It's in the
1:59:24
arrivals hall. But they have the curtains around them and stuff,
1:59:27
which is that's very humane, though. So humane. There have
1:59:31
Unknown: been calls by city officials to close enough
1:59:33
Chicago shelter site after reports of criminal behavior
1:59:36
including drug sales and prostitution. Pasi Yonis. Is
1:59:40
says it's not shutting down.
1:59:43
We are in a lease. You know, that's the other thing.
1:59:45
Adam Curry: We're in a lease. So I guess they've leased the
1:59:50
entire Chicago Hotel. The city has just leased it is crazy
1:59:55
paying top
1:59:55
John C Dvorak: dollar. Oh yeah.
1:59:56
Unknown: This chart shows the number of migrant children now
1:59:59
enrolled. Within the Chicago Public Schools 30% of migrants
2:00:03
here in Chicago are children. That migrant crisis is straining
2:00:06
resources. The state is footing the bill for what they call
2:00:10
temporary housing. The state is paying on the high end $9,000 in
2:00:14
rental assistance over a six month period of time with that
2:00:18
comes out moving in and a starter kit to furnish the
2:00:21
apartment
2:00:21
Adam Curry: star kid. Here's a vase for flowers
2:00:26
Unknown: that read last for six months and ideally, people would
2:00:30
have started their legal process, secured legal work
2:00:34
authorization and then be able to sustain that apartment. The
2:00:38
city
2:00:38
put $4 million towards helping migrants get temporary housing.
2:00:42
Right now there are just a handful of case managers to
2:00:45
handle the load to get migrants in temporary rentals. We did
2:00:49
reach out to see how many asylum seekers are currently taking
2:00:51
advantage of the rental assistance. We haven't heard
2:00:54
back from the city on that.
2:00:58
John C Dvorak: Well, that's got to go over big with the
2:00:59
residents.
2:01:00
Adam Curry: Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. I'm sure Airbnb is in on it.
2:01:05
John C Dvorak: Oh, absolutely.
2:01:05
Adam Curry: They have to be so in New York. Mayor Eric Adams.
2:01:11
To he up. This kind of shows you how much bullcrap AI is. So they
2:01:18
use a robocall system, which transmogrified the mayor's voice
2:01:24
into different languages.
2:01:25
John C Dvorak: Yeah, a couple of two or three languages. Now.
2:01:28
Adam Curry: I mean, this is this is the same as calling anything
2:01:31
blockchain. We have a pet store, we use blockchain. Now we're
2:01:37
using AI says Mayor Adams AI is here is hair, I'm using it. I'm
2:01:44
awesome. using
2:01:45
Unknown: AI to improve the delivery of goods and services
2:01:50
is what we're going to do. And we're going to all look back on
2:01:52
this one day and say, You know what, this guy, Eric had it
2:01:56
right. I know we have a right
2:02:00
Adam Curry: from the future. And
2:02:01
Unknown: so those who sit on the sidelines, wake up in the
2:02:04
morning, and say, let me see, we're going to criticize Eric
2:02:07
about today. Jeff, we're going to use it. It's not against the
2:02:11
law. So people want it.
2:02:19
John C Dvorak: Well, I was gonna bring you down with a clip, I
2:02:21
have a question that more generalized, but I'll ask it
2:02:24
now. Why not find a person that's fluent in the language
2:02:29
and have them deliver the messages over the phone, as
2:02:32
opposed to some bulky version of that guy was can barely get a
2:02:37
sentence out without sounding silly? And get you know, have
2:02:42
you flew? Hiring a fluent person to do this? Why don't you do
2:02:47
that instead of this nonsense? Well, obviously,
2:02:51
Adam Curry: there's some pay off some some buddy of his has an AI
2:02:55
company. I mean, you know, Spotify did a big announcement,
2:03:00
where Spotify. Now if you upload your podcasts or Spotify, we
2:03:04
will translate your voice into Portuguese into Spanish into
2:03:09
German into French into every language imaginable. You know,
2:03:13
it's always interesting to me. You never hear anyone promoting
2:03:18
the, the opposite direction. You never hear someone saying, Wow,
2:03:22
we're now using this. So you can listen in English to podcasts in
2:03:27
French. You know why? Because we would only have to listen to
2:03:31
three seconds of it. And we'd be laughing about how horrible it
2:03:34
is. Because you know, it sucks. You know that it sucks. It just
2:03:40
John C Dvorak: gotta suck. Suck.
2:03:43
Unknown: Because what are your voice? The people want to hear
2:03:47
that man's voice.
2:03:50
Adam Curry: It's also a bit of ego, I think,
2:03:52
Unknown: tell me you do not enjoy waking up in the morning.
2:03:54
You hear my voice? You know, people think about the seat at
2:03:59
the money. The problems that we have, is that those of us who
2:04:05
are able to enjoy life from our normal space. We think everyone
2:04:11
feels that way.
2:04:12
Adam Curry: Well, because you know, the we want to make
2:04:14
migrants feel comfortable when they come here illegally. We
2:04:18
want their space to be normalized. Do you know how
2:04:21
empowering it is? If you speak or do or, or do you know how
2:04:30
empowering it is? If you can speak Urdu? Yeah, I feel very
2:04:34
powerful.
2:04:35
Unknown: And all of a sudden you hear in the voice of your
2:04:37
mayor's speaking your language.
2:04:39
Adam Curry: It's so empowering Mayor Adams, it's really believe
2:04:43
me? The Venezuelans feel empowered because of this.
2:04:48
That's empowering
2:04:49
Unknown: to people. And it's we don't understand it because we
2:04:53
always hear English. Everyone is talking in English, but this is
2:04:57
a city that's diverse. And you know Uh, I know what I hear from
2:05:01
my constituents that speak different language. Hey, I heard
2:05:04
that robo call from you. Thank you understood it. And this is
2:05:08
the right thing to do and we're gonna do it.
2:05:11
Adam Curry: Let me see. Do you think that there's an example of
2:05:15
his robo call in Urdu? Do you have one? Well I know that you
2:05:19
mentioned it let me see if there's one available
2:05:23
John C Dvorak: there's got to be viewed think so. I want to hit
2:05:26
the Chinese version.
2:05:27
Adam Curry: I'm I'm thinking now I'm thinking like what companies
2:05:32
in on this?
2:05:34
John C Dvorak: Yeah, it's definitely some operation
2:05:36
there's some corruption involves New York. Yeah,
2:05:40
Adam Curry: let me see now unfortunately, fortunately,
2:05:43
it'll come out Oh, come
2:05:44
John C Dvorak: on to wash. Yeah,
2:05:45
Adam Curry: I can't wait. I'm very excited to hear to hear the
2:05:48
mayor in Urdu.
2:05:50
John C Dvorak: Yeah, or do especially
2:05:53
Adam Curry: using AI to fake his voice in always doing ads as
2:05:56
well not just robo calls. Interesting. Yeah. Anything
2:06:05
else? Well,
2:06:08
John C Dvorak: are we gonna Hallows or segment going to be
2:06:10
at the end? Probably not too long. So we should probably get
2:06:12
this out of the way. Okay. This is the I think is pathetic
2:06:17
stories played. In an unfortunate way. There's the
2:06:20
black man story.
2:06:21
Adam Curry: I'm gonna have to do this morning. AMY GOODMAN
2:06:25
flippin bound. I'm sorry. Everybody is a lot of people got
2:06:29
triggered in the troll room since we've been playing AMI
2:06:31
clip after AMI clip after Yeah,
2:06:33
John C Dvorak: well, I got a lot of AMI clips today.
2:06:34
Unknown: Back in the US in Georgia. A man who was
2:06:37
wrongfully imprisoned for 16 years for a crime he didn't
2:06:40
commit was killed by police Monday, Leonard Allen cure a
2:06:43
black man was driving on a highway in Camden County near
2:06:46
the Georgia Florida State Line when a sheriff's deputy pulled
2:06:48
them over reportedly for speeding the officer notified
2:06:51
him he'd be arrested before shocking him with a taser at
2:06:54
least twice speeding him with a baton then fatally shooting him.
2:06:57
The 53 year old man was released from a Florida prison in 2020.
2:07:01
After he was exonerated for an armed robbery conviction from
2:07:04
2004. Since his release, he often gave inspirational talks
2:07:08
to high school students and it plans to go to college.
2:07:13
John C Dvorak: I just don't believe this story is giving us
2:07:16
all the details now.
2:07:17
Adam Curry: I'm sure it's not
2:07:19
John C Dvorak: bad cop, I guess pulled over for speeding and
2:07:23
killed him. But it sounds like because he's black. So and he
2:07:28
wanted to go to college.
2:07:30
Adam Curry: That's Amy. I mean, you know, how can you even play
2:07:34
her anymore?
2:07:35
John C Dvorak: I love it.
2:07:38
Adam Curry: All right. Let me I need to do this, I need to do
2:07:41
this. Now it's time for our friends malice to self destruct
2:07:45
initiated trans mouse update, which as you know, contains a
2:07:50
lot of different things. And the first one is just I have to read
2:07:55
this. This is what this from this was a owe them.us is a
2:08:03
great publication. And I'll just I'll just read this. I'm an
2:08:06
Israeli trans woman who desperately needs Palestine to
2:08:10
be free. I need this because I refuse to accept that the
2:08:15
massacres peaceful protesters in Gaza is something that my people
2:08:18
keep doing. I need this because I understand that trans
2:08:22
liberation and Palestinian Liberation are linked. You
2:08:27
starting to figure out how this all works. This is why people
2:08:29
are on the street. But also it's another flag is another cool
2:08:33
flag we can fly. About 10 months ago, I figured out the flag yes
2:08:37
new flag. That's a good title to a new flag. About 10 months ago,
2:08:43
I figured out that I wanted to start hormone replacement
2:08:46
therapy and in that way medically transition. There were
2:08:49
many reasons for this decision. But one of them was the
2:08:51
realization that growing up Israeli and trans in Jerusalem,
2:08:55
while being expected to become a Zionist man left an aftermath in
2:08:59
my body. Wow, I needed help to heal and since the growing
2:09:05
around her more tender body would help me connect with the
2:09:08
justice loving feminine child inside of me. And having such a
2:09:11
body would help me grow from that soft place. Anyway, so that
2:09:17
goes on and on and on and on. And then so I waited until the
2:09:21
Jewish new year to go to my pharmacy and start that phase in
2:09:25
my transition. I imagine the little ritual I will do while
2:09:29
taking that first teal colored pill New Year New Jew new me.
2:09:34
But when the pharmacy handed me the bottles with my medication,
2:09:37
I looked at the label that read produced by Teva
2:09:40
Pharmaceuticals, and my heart stopped. Teva or Teva? I guess,
2:09:46
a word meaning nature and Hebrew is an Israeli owned
2:09:49
pharmaceutical company that I have vaguely heard about as a
2:09:52
participant in the economy of the occupation. This must be a
2:09:56
mistake, I thought, excuse me, I said when I went back to the
2:09:59
pharmacist This estrogen is produced by an Israeli company.
2:10:02
I'm a supporter of BDS. Could I please have a prescription from
2:10:05
a different manufacturer? No, we're sorry. That's the only
2:10:08
manufacturer we carry. The pharmacist quickly replied. I
2:10:12
was in shock. How could this? How could this be? I texted all
2:10:18
my medicalized trans sisters on my way home and asked the simple
2:10:21
question, who makes your hormones? Many of them didn't
2:10:24
know offhand. It takes a great deal of struggle and an intense
2:10:26
amount of questioning for many trans folks to get their hands
2:10:28
on this life saving medication. And once we do, we want to start
2:10:32
immediately and experience and enter questions regarding the
2:10:35
validity of identity and our choices. But my sisters heard
2:10:38
the urgency you might call and checked in, and the responses
2:10:41
came every single one was either Teva, or company that a quick
2:10:44
Google search listed as linked to them. How did this one
2:10:48
Israeli company play such a large role in the cross gender
2:10:51
hormone market? How did my body once again find itself as a
2:10:55
battleground? A settlement, an ongoing pawn in this Zionist
2:10:59
game? I feel so bad for these people.
2:11:06
John C Dvorak: So we need to get a jingle for these reads.
2:11:10
Adam Curry: Oh, what would you call them?
2:11:13
John C Dvorak: Well, they're they're they're interesting. I
2:11:16
don't know yet. I can come up with a name
2:11:18
Adam Curry: for it. Pearl clutch kind of in a way. It's the
2:11:22
John C Dvorak: pearl clutching with Adam curry.
2:11:26
Adam Curry: Let's let's all clutch our pearls.
2:11:30
John C Dvorak: All right, that's not a bad name. Pearl.
2:11:34
Adam Curry: It's a new podcast, Pearl clutching podcast. And
2:11:40
then one final clip just to make sure that we all know exactly
2:11:43
what the agenda is. This is from I believe the Canada's new
2:11:47
Democrat Party. Isn't that to dos party?
2:11:50
John C Dvorak: You see that he's he's he's a liberal I Liberal
2:11:53
Party. Isn't the liberals?
2:11:56
Adam Curry: Who's In Who's the liberal? Oh, okay. Well, he
2:12:00
shouldn't be with this one. This is the new Democrat party's
2:12:03
convention. And before they started off first everybody a
2:12:07
few ground rules,
2:12:08
Unknown: a reminder that we will enforce gender parity at the
2:12:12
mics and a julienne explain the process with the yellow card as
2:12:16
well. So please remember to give space to those who face systemic
2:12:22
barriers and discrimination including women, black,
2:12:26
indigenous and racialized folk in particular, people living
2:12:29
with disabilities and to LGBTQIA plus folk. Our convention has
2:12:36
special speaker priority for gender equity if you identify
2:12:41
with a gender other than men for the purpose of the equity
2:12:44
speaking rule, you will have received a piece of yellow
2:12:47
cardstock during the registration process so please
2:12:51
raise this piece of yellow cardstock when you arrive at the
2:12:54
mic so that myself and Adrian as chairs can identify you easily
2:13:00
fit on hive one there will be additional cards available at
2:13:05
the mics as always if you require support please flag a
2:13:09
volunteer and they will be happy to assist you. As New Democrats
2:13:15
we strive to create inclusive spaces where everyone gets a
2:13:20
voice at the table
2:13:21
Adam Curry: except for men except for white men keep leaves
2:13:26
us Yeah, I can believe
2:13:28
John C Dvorak: it the only thing that she doesn't go on and on
2:13:31
about enforcing pronouns
2:13:33
Adam Curry: well I don't miss you might have what I'm
2:13:35
surprised I mean they're only one step away from taking those
2:13:38
yellow cards and cutting them into stars you're almost there
2:13:41
lady keep it up. Yeah
2:13:44
John C Dvorak: he's on the back.
2:13:46
Adam Curry: And with that, I would like to thank you for your
2:13:49
courage say in the morning to you the man who for 1600
2:13:52
episodes is putting the sea and things today the sea in the
2:13:55
center strip industrial complex ladies and gentlemen say hello
2:13:58
to my still friend on the other end the one and only Mr. John
2:14:02
Cena
2:14:07
John C Dvorak: in the morning to you Mr. Adam Korean and Maria
2:14:10
all ships of sea boots on the ground feet in the air subs in
2:14:13
the water and Allah deems a nice out there
2:14:15
Adam Curry: and we celebrate with our we we celebrate with
2:14:23
our trolls today. We always in fact the trolls have been
2:14:27
celebrating with the trolls for well over 14 years I think
2:14:31
thanks to void zero who has always kindly gave up his his
2:14:36
chat room has made that the no agenda troll room. Sir bemrose
2:14:41
running the no agenda stream. We have so many people to thank for
2:14:46
all these episodes that we have been beaming to you particularly
2:14:51
on the live shows on the Thursdays and Sundays and why
2:14:54
don't we just joke funny What does A normal count for a
2:15:01
Thursday
2:15:03
John C Dvorak: 1800
2:15:04
Adam Curry: Oh, okay well even to weld two hours and 15 minutes
2:15:08
into it 1977
2:15:10
John C Dvorak: Good. Oh guys Yeah,
2:15:11
Adam Curry: that's very nice.
2:15:12
John C Dvorak: Hello trolls here for port port 1970s
2:15:17
Adam Curry: Well, the trolls are up they come back they'll run
2:15:20
away the scurry whenever I try to count them. It's a good year
2:15:23
for the trolls as well. The trolls troll room.io Or if you
2:15:27
prefer, you can get a modern podcast that podcast apps.com
2:15:31
You'll need it believe me eventually you're gonna need it
2:15:33
because things are gonna get start to platforms as it's
2:15:36
already happening to many podcasts. So get one a podcast
2:15:41
John C Dvorak: crew. Well What have you heard?
2:15:45
Adam Curry: Well, they the platform stuff every week. Every
2:15:50
week conspiracy disinformation misinformation. Oh, yeah. It's
2:15:55
gone all the time. Can you get Alex Jones on Apple podcasts?
2:16:00
You see? Oh, that's
2:16:01
John C Dvorak: been for years. You're
2:16:02
Adam Curry: horribly dangerous man.
2:16:05
John C Dvorak: Not by my standard. You
2:16:06
Adam Curry: get monkey works on Apple podcasts. Never heard of
2:16:10
it. Monkey works. Yeah, we've talked about monkey works. Yeah,
2:16:14
no, you can't get any of that stuff. Oh, no. And it's not just
2:16:18
that. This is all this is happens all the time. I'd say
2:16:23
they remove on average eight to 10 podcasts a week. And I'll get
2:16:29
I'll get a list. I will gladly get a list for you. Oh, yeah, we
2:16:32
should have a list. Yeah, yes, it should be an honor roll. But
2:16:37
get one of those because it alerts you when we go live and
2:16:40
as the bad signal has a live stream that has the troll room
2:16:44
it's it's it's really It's good stuff. You can also you can also
2:16:50
follow us at no agenda social.com Which I'm not barely
2:16:53
active on it's got so bad on no agenda social.
2:16:59
John C Dvorak: Okay, notice it changing one iota one way or the
2:17:02
other. Well,
2:17:03
Adam Curry: I look at the look at stuff that everyone's
2:17:07
posting, posting not just stuff I follow. And all I see is you
2:17:11
know, anti Jew memes anti EU Palestine anti Muslim, and it's
2:17:15
all all sides of it. Everyone's all and it's all posting from
2:17:18
other places. Every link is to something on Twitter or Reddit
2:17:22
or somewhere else is writtens isn't almost no original
2:17:26
thought.
2:17:30
John C Dvorak: I guess that's what social media I guess, the
2:17:32
point of
2:17:32
Adam Curry: social media. But I would also like to thank Aaron
2:17:35
are for keeping that running out of the goodness of his heart. He
2:17:38
took that over for me years ago. I started that and it was about
2:17:42
a year and a half two years into him like this is too much work.
2:17:45
There's too much to do. So he's been an excellent steward of
2:17:49
that. Now he also posted about about what I've been saying
2:17:53
about no agenda social he says hey, you know everybody, it is
2:17:57
what you make out of it. Oh, there you go. Yeah, I don't see
2:18:00
you posting that often. Post
2:18:02
John C Dvorak: constantly.
2:18:03
Adam Curry: What are you posting memes
2:18:05
John C Dvorak: if I can find a good meme I'll post it for sure.
2:18:09
Adam Curry: I love how this is contingent on the origin of
2:18:12
social that things Adam hates memes like oh you do no I don't
2:18:16
I hate
2:18:16
John C Dvorak: bad I'm in that contingent by the way.
2:18:20
Adam Curry: I only hate bad memes it stems from the
2:18:25
knowledge of how much storage space that sucks up by everyone.
2:18:29
Oh, there you have it a posting all of these pictures. The back
2:18:33
end? Yeah, the back end in the back end suffers people. Hey,
2:18:38
you're not the boss of us.
2:18:43
John C Dvorak: They just say that.
2:18:44
Adam Curry: Oh, yeah, many, many I'm not. I'm becoming you. I'm
2:18:49
starting to block people's like, I don't want to see you anymore.
2:18:52
I'm just not
2:18:53
John C Dvorak: there's always a practical method was blocking P
2:18:56
No, but like you're becoming me
2:18:58
Adam Curry: know I'm becoming you. I am I'm becoming you. And
2:19:01
you're becoming blocked and you're becoming me. Because
2:19:05
people have noticed you're cussing a lot more.
2:19:07
John C Dvorak: I've tried to keep the cussing to zero. Yeah,
2:19:10
but that's failing. You're failing is a lot of cussing. I
2:19:13
haven't cut today once
2:19:14
Adam Curry: True. True. But the show's not over. Not on over No,
2:19:20
I love the memes that I'm in you idiots. Now if you have a meme
2:19:23
about me I love them but then he just was a narcissistic mean
2:19:27
yeah, they're rarely any good. There's a couple of good ones
2:19:29
I've seen of you the one where I'm all like on fire that one
2:19:34
John C Dvorak: I didn't see that one that's probably good. I'd
2:19:37
like to challenge right
2:19:38
Adam Curry: like the ones where I'm on fire. Now I just have
2:19:40
other things to do with my life that's all this you know adhere
2:19:44
to here. There's no agenda social use to make me smile used
2:19:47
to make me happy. But now it's just memes do it's just but no,
2:19:51
it's doom and gloom. And then it's like, everything sucks.
2:19:55
It's now it's not funny. I don't know. I can't put my finger on
2:19:58
it. I guess But if it's good enough for you, then you should
2:20:03
keep going there
2:20:04
John C Dvorak: I think is terrific.
2:20:07
Adam Curry: You're just sucking up to the trolls. Follow Adam
2:20:10
will follow to follow John C. Dvorak had no agenda social.com
2:20:14
Posting memes He loves them.
2:20:15
John C Dvorak: He go follow I also follow the real DeVore I
2:20:17
could Twitter please. Oh, I'm down like, like the 1000 people.
2:20:23
Adam Curry: Oh no. That was that's probably the real the
2:20:26
actual real people that followed you
2:20:29
John C Dvorak: know, it's hard to say. There's a lot of new
2:20:33
probably write it write this up on substack there's a lot of new
2:20:38
types of fake accounts.
2:20:43
Adam Curry: I love that. I'm just looking at the troll room.
2:20:46
Adam takes memes too seriously? No, I don't. I'm just sour on
2:20:51
social media in general. He
2:20:52
John C Dvorak: sour sour don't even put anything about it.
2:20:56
Adam Curry: Um, so our um, sour What can I tell you?
2:20:59
John C Dvorak: I'm just sour. Sour is from living in
2:21:02
Fredericksburg.
2:21:03
Adam Curry: Oh man. This Fredericksburg is the best. What
2:21:05
are you talking about? See, I know what you like you liked it
2:21:10
when I was divorced and freewheeling and smoking weed
2:21:13
and all crazy. That's what you liked. That's Adam. You like
2:21:17
Well, I'm sorry that Adam is no longer here. I'm just you.
2:21:21
John C Dvorak: Adam was short lived. And you were so mean not
2:21:25
too worried prior but that's beside the point. But free
2:21:28
wheeling out there. Getting you know, finding girls left and
2:21:33
right.
2:21:36
Adam Curry: Finding girls Hey. Yeah, how many? How many did I
2:21:41
really find 10. Okay. Oh goodness. So I just want to
2:21:51
continue thanking everybody who's a part of no agenda nation
2:21:54
now which is all of the producers of course, but we do
2:21:56
have so many people who have participated specifically in the
2:21:59
time talent and treasure. We have no agenda artwork generator
2:22:03
we have the no agenda meetups we have Gitmo list that lists all
2:22:07
the all the so many different websites the no agenda agenda
2:22:12
shop, no agenda shop, I mean, this, it really has made no
2:22:16
agenda nation what it is today. And I want you to take that
2:22:19
seriously. The time talent treasure is real, that there's
2:22:23
no way we could come anywhere near what we're doing without
2:22:27
without that selfless return of value. And along with that comes
2:22:35
treasure as well. But we'll talk about that in a moment. Because
2:22:37
people have just been so gracious helping us throughout
2:22:41
all the all these years. Making it possible. I think when When
2:22:45
did I really? When did we really go full time? Was it around
2:22:48
episode? 200 I think
2:22:54
John C Dvorak: no. Way before that. Was it it? It was sub 100?
2:23:02
Adam Curry: No, it wasn't sub 100? No, I think so. No, because
2:23:06
100 I was
2:23:07
John C Dvorak: fine. It was a big deal, because that's what we
2:23:09
had to do club and the deuce club. Really, it was a very
2:23:12
successful promotion. It was like the most success promotion
2:23:17
we had and continue to be such, probably for another three or
2:23:22
400 shows. We had the art to deuce club art people join the
2:23:28
deuce club.
2:23:30
Adam Curry: Yeah. Yeah, the deuce Club was Big. Huge was
2:23:34
huge. What was the was the one episode that we keep? We kept
2:23:38
repeating is that the one 100.5?
2:23:42
John C Dvorak: I can't remember. It's it's we kept just Yes, we
2:23:46
did a retrospective I can't remember the number
2:23:49
retrospective show that we kept repeating with layers and
2:23:54
layers, have more retrospection until we kind of ran out of room
2:23:57
and this thing is floating around. So I can't remember what
2:24:00
the show number is. Somebody in the troll room will know exactly
2:24:04
what the show number is. Yeah, I think we did the last one about
2:24:08
four years ago. And I wanted to do another one but I think the
2:24:14
last one covered it covered it all. I don't know. We can talk
2:24:17
much more about how we got the jingles and how we went from
2:24:20
here to there and how who's winning the but
2:24:24
Adam Curry: we need to but yeah, that's right. I mean, do we even
2:24:28
need to do that anymore? We we haven't done that in a while. I
2:24:30
don't know if we ever need to do it again. Honestly.
2:24:33
John C Dvorak: No, I think that one episode does the trick.
2:24:36
Yeah, yeah, it does.
2:24:38
Adam Curry: It does. So, I mean, really, there's just too many
2:24:43
people to thank that. That's that's the real problem. There's
2:24:45
too many people to thank for all of the time and talent you've
2:24:49
put into it. But we do always like to thank our artist. As we
2:24:55
have noted, an Art Generator where artists upload art
2:24:59
sometimes Time's in droves just amazing amounts I think every
2:25:03
show we have at least 10 pieces to choose from if not more. So
2:25:06
we want to thank Matt boy there I got an education blog where
2:25:11
I'm sorry blog air blog web it's you spell it Boisvert but it's
2:25:16
Bob air is the Arleigh francais. Matt. For the artwork for
2:25:21
episode 1599 We titled that one drop the drop the OP
2:25:27
John C Dvorak: This is enough
2:25:29
Adam Curry: another uncovered Yeah, we got a jingle for it
2:25:32
too. Now, this was an interesting piece because I
2:25:35
don't think either of us noticed when we first saw this. Israel,
2:25:40
Ukraine Hamas and NATO with the IR and n of each of those
2:25:44
highlighted that Hamas was misspelled. Di Yeah,
2:25:49
John C Dvorak: I'm noticing it now. And I
2:25:50
Adam Curry: wonder if like Hamas did that. Well, that's that's
2:25:54
what a lot of people thought it's like, oh, wait a minute.
2:25:56
Was this a subtle dig at Hamas by by putting to me love Hamas?
2:26:03
We do love Hamas.
2:26:05
John C Dvorak: Everybody loves Hamas. If they've, you know, how
2:26:07
could you especially if you've ever been to the Middle East,
2:26:11
where the old lady's go in the basement. You always told this,
2:26:14
y'all. There's a couple old moms down the basement grinding the
2:26:17
beans down, you know with a pestle and they do it by hand
2:26:20
and the stuff is so peanut butter, butter. creamy, smooth.
2:26:24
It's astonishing. It's good. It's
2:26:26
Adam Curry: good. It's good. Holy mackerel. Have you seen how
2:26:29
many pieces of art have been submitted for today's show?
2:26:32
Quite a few. Wow. Well, let's see what else there was. Dave
2:26:36
Jackson, you can fast forward now. Dave Jackson says he hates
2:26:40
the art segment. For summary. He listened to the donation
2:26:42
segment, but he hates the art. So
2:26:43
John C Dvorak: he's going to miss my story about how he got
2:26:45
to the PhD certificate diploma.
2:26:48
Adam Curry: This too. He's already gone. So that's too bad.
2:26:51
First let's talk about the options we had. We had none.
2:26:56
Well, I liked the spread inator Yeah, you did by scaring. I kind
2:27:02
of like the spread nature we use spread inator as the opening
2:27:05
clip though, which kind of audio removes it from ruined. Ruined
2:27:10
did see. Was there anything else that we liked
2:27:16
John C Dvorak: whether choose lies which is spread Nadir was
2:27:19
the other? Okay, that one?
2:27:22
Adam Curry: I thought the red yarn was okay though. Yeah, you
2:27:24
were onto the red
2:27:25
John C Dvorak: yarn. I thought it was too boring.
2:27:29
Adam Curry: Well, yeah, I mean, we both just agreed on on the
2:27:34
deficit of
2:27:34
John C Dvorak: fall back dos that it was a fall back
2:27:37
agreement. What
2:27:38
Adam Curry: it was, yeah. Yeah, it's hard. I mean, what is this
2:27:41
thing with? To Kenny? Damn Kenny Ben man did she she's lost the
2:27:46
plot.
2:27:47
John C Dvorak: She when she would when she had the stork?
2:27:50
Adam Curry: With a car that looks nothing like a Volvo and
2:27:54
it was titled it's a Volvo we had that Volvo Volvo the
2:27:59
John C Dvorak: Volvo thing Yeah.
2:28:01
Adam Curry: That was John I was kind of weird. I expect better
2:28:05
from Dame Kenny Ben
2:28:09
John C Dvorak: Yes, she was she wasn't you know she's one of
2:28:12
those artists that's not a professional that I know of and
2:28:15
she needs right she really needs to be inspired. Yeah,
2:28:19
Adam Curry: yeah. Boy Rivera has been uploading a lot I see he
2:28:23
uploaded a lot of pieces ESG now tank with laser beam no more
2:28:32
Volvo stuff no I guess sorry Joe was kind of we didn't really
2:28:40
discuss it but
2:28:41
John C Dvorak: either way Yes. Damn Kenny Ben stork with the
2:28:45
car yeah, that's not a Volvo
2:28:48
Adam Curry: that's what I just said it's not a Volvo
2:28:49
John C Dvorak: Oh okay. That's what your complaint was no it
2:28:53
that's a cooper it
2:28:54
Adam Curry: looks it looks like a mini well not even a Mini
2:28:56
Cooper it looks doesn't it's not it's not a recognizable it looks
2:28:59
like a almost like a suture when
2:29:01
John C Dvorak: it's a clipart car
2:29:04
Adam Curry: clipart cars No. Have no particular origins your
2:29:08
particular brand. Matt Boivin, Baba, thank you very much for
2:29:12
providing us the artwork for episode 1599. We appreciate that
2:29:16
as always. And let's thank some people who brought us some
2:29:20
treasure for our six by the way, John, congratulations. It's been
2:29:23
fun six cylinder episodes. I think there you go. I think
2:29:26
we've we've we can stop now. We've done we can quit. We can
2:29:29
quit. I think we're there. I think we've we've done a good
2:29:32
job. How much longer we're gonna go we've never escaped
2:29:38
John C Dvorak: that debt. Is it some sort of a gag?
2:29:41
Adam Curry: How about for real?
2:29:44
John C Dvorak: I think we can go to 2000 and quit
2:29:46
Adam Curry: 400 More episodes? Yep. How many?
2:29:50
John C Dvorak: How many spit in the bucket as
2:29:52
Adam Curry: two more years? Yeah, it's about right. Yeah,
2:29:56
well 2025 Yeah, that was always my bitcoin block one. 1 million
2:30:00
was always my target Yeah, you'll
2:30:01
John C Dvorak: be a rich man you won't even want to do the show
2:30:07
Adam Curry: and where am I getting rich from?
2:30:09
John C Dvorak: You cash in your gold bars?
2:30:12
Adam Curry: The gold bars are longer I got some coins I got
2:30:15
some silver coins I got some bitcoin well Bitcoin to 220,000
2:30:18
then yeah then I'll quit I'll quit on a dime thanks to vorak
2:30:21
by
2:30:23
John C Dvorak: Yeah, that's okay I can get mo facts to do the
2:30:27
show.
2:30:27
Adam Curry: Oh wait you think you get to just take the name
2:30:30
you just
2:30:31
John C Dvorak: heal your team
2:30:33
Adam Curry: yeah and steal the team and you're gonna produce it
2:30:39
John C Dvorak: simple effects I'll teach you about it you need
2:30:43
to learn this skill
2:30:47
Adam Curry: it's funny because he was my choice when you keel
2:30:49
over. It's interesting. We both the same guy in mind about that.
2:30:55
Let's thank our executive and Associate Executive producers
2:30:58
for episode 1600. And we start with we got several nights we
2:31:03
got title changes we got some Daily Show number members we do
2:31:07
have many show
2:31:08
John C Dvorak: we also introduced the the ADHD
2:31:12
Adam Curry: explained the PhD because we also
2:31:14
John C Dvorak: were giving out a PhD and we got to we got 15 So
2:31:17
far people are getting them. Oh wow. It's a natural it's a
2:31:23
video. It's from note that no agenda show you'll be granted a
2:31:26
PhD Doctor of Philosophy PhD in media deconstruction. Oh, like
2:31:33
one of oh, it's
2:31:34
Adam Curry: it's a PhD in philosophy of media
2:31:37
deconstruction. Yeah,
2:31:39
John C Dvorak: that's what a PhD is.
2:31:40
Adam Curry: Okay. All right. I didn't leave there's always
2:31:42
John C Dvorak: been a POC, where you get a I'm getting a doctor
2:31:44
of media and that's what I thought there's no doctor of
2:31:48
English he there's no doctor.
2:31:50
Adam Curry: It's a real PhD of a real subjects philosophy. Yeah.
2:31:56
Ah, okay. So
2:31:57
John C Dvorak: now I have to tell the story. I
2:31:59
Adam Curry: saw the certificate by the way, dynamite. I mean, it
2:32:03
I'm putting mine on my wall.
2:32:06
John C Dvorak: I'm putting mine on my
2:32:07
Adam Curry: wall. Does it come with a frame? Is it framed or
2:32:09
No, no,
2:32:09
John C Dvorak: it come now you get your own damn frame. So get
2:32:13
your own damn frame. So I have to tell the story about how I
2:32:17
came to this. Doing this idea as an idea. It goes back to when I
2:32:22
was in college. I was a freshman at Berkeley. And a friend of
2:32:28
mine and myself during the early days of the Universal Life
2:32:32
Church. We actually got a hold of Kirby Hensley.
2:32:35
Adam Curry: Yes, I have a huge I'm a minister of the Universal
2:32:39
Life Church. I have one of those.
2:32:40
John C Dvorak: But almost everybody is I think there's 14
2:32:43
million or something like that a huge number. And so we went to
2:32:49
it. This is the early days. So we went to his house in Modesto.
2:32:54
It was we me and Andrew hood. The my partner in crime he was
2:32:58
also a student at Cal is Andrew still alive? Yeah, I don't know
2:33:03
where he is. Yeah, he doesn't listen to the show. Okay, he
2:33:06
would have said some. So we go to Modesto. He Kirby lived in a
2:33:12
little cottage kind of a farm house and just an attract not a
2:33:16
tract of houses, but like on some acreage. And so he went in
2:33:21
there and chatted with him. And he told us what he was up to.
2:33:24
And so before I give give his little spiel of the story, I
2:33:28
looked up the Wikipedia page on the Universal Life Church and
2:33:32
Hensley. Unbelievable bullcrap. So, you're gonna get the real
2:33:38
story here.
2:33:39
Adam Curry: But but the general idea is, and this is why I got
2:33:43
my minister of the Universal Life Church. It is, it is a
2:33:48
title that is so official, even though it's just basically you,
2:33:51
you send the guy money, and he sends back this ordain
2:33:56
certificate that I was able to perform weddings. Yeah, I've
2:34:00
done it legally in as a top 40 DJ trick. I'm gonna do a mass
2:34:06
wedding.
2:34:08
John C Dvorak: It's a great bit it's legal in all the states
2:34:10
except Virginia. Make note interesting. So anyway, so we
2:34:16
went in there and we got to we got our you know, our ministers
2:34:20
certificates and then he mentioned you, would you like a
2:34:22
Doctor of Divinity? And I said, Oh, yeah. Now in the in the new
2:34:27
in the wiki pages says you have to get a bunch of training to be
2:34:31
how to start a church. Now. He just gave us a couple of doctors
2:34:34
of divinity. Now, a couple of things to note. One, he said he
2:34:38
was illiterate couldn't read, but memorize the Bible by having
2:34:42
it read to him and he was a Baptist minister. Oh, I didn't
2:34:45
know the reason he started. The Universal Life Church, according
2:34:48
to him at the time, was very similar to L. Ron Hubbard story,
2:34:54
which is that the government taxes he thought it was a gyp
2:35:00
that, that these churches were you are getting away with not
2:35:03
having to pay taxes and he thought anyone who starts just a
2:35:06
one man church should be able to not pay taxes. And that was the
2:35:10
whole reason for starting this. He had some grudge against the
2:35:13
tax man. That is not what is told in the wiki page. It's more
2:35:18
of all love and light. Just a bunch of bullcrap story now and
2:35:24
it was kind of an interesting, irascible guy was really a funny
2:35:27
guy, Alabama
2:35:28
Adam Curry: he'd become rich off of this.
2:35:30
John C Dvorak: I don't know if he did. He didn't seem like he
2:35:32
cared. He wasn't one of those guys. He was just a nice guy.
2:35:37
very personable Alabama slight accent. And so we're leaving and
2:35:43
this is what, to this day, the sticks in my craw. And I don't
2:35:48
think they do this anymore. But at the time, as we're two of us
2:35:51
really. We had a nice chat with him. Probably an hour. And he
2:35:55
says, Hey, do you want a PhD? And we're leaving and I said it
2:36:03
because I got the doctorate divinity. I think that's pretty
2:36:05
cool. So then I said no,
2:36:08
Adam Curry: oh, no. And this is your way of getting back at your
2:36:11
horrible faux pa your canard.
2:36:13
John C Dvorak: It was a complete blunder looking back on it. I
2:36:16
don't even know if they do the PhDs anymore. But he said, he
2:36:19
says you want a PhD? I'll give it to you anything you want.
2:36:22
Adam Curry: Wow. Wow. No, no, no.
2:36:28
John C Dvorak: So this has been galling me forever. So I said
2:36:30
hell with it. We're gonna do it.
2:36:32
Adam Curry: All right. And this is a promotion that lasts how
2:36:35
long? I think we're
2:36:37
John C Dvorak: gonna do it probably halfway through
2:36:39
November maybe to the end. Okay, it may be
2:36:42
Adam Curry: the 16th anniversary promotion.
2:36:45
John C Dvorak: And yeah, 16th is it 16 years 16th anniversary
2:36:48
promotion? Definitely continues for the next couple of weeks.
2:36:52
Adam Curry: And it's on it's on beautiful paper. Like real
2:36:56
diploma paper. Good
2:36:58
John C Dvorak: looks if you looked at it from any more than
2:37:01
one foot away it looks like and it's got to seal that whole
2:37:05
thing. We got some seals made no agenda
2:37:07
Adam Curry: race you. Yes, the stamp. Oh, wow.
2:37:11
John C Dvorak: We got to establish has no agenda scholar.
2:37:14
Oh, wow.
2:37:17
Adam Curry: I love it. All right.
2:37:19
John C Dvorak: Well, so those are just a donation of $1,000 or
2:37:23
more. It can be added to anything else you're doing. But
2:37:27
it's it can't be like you know, you it's not an additive thing.
2:37:30
You know, you pay 10 bucks a month for five years and get it?
2:37:33
Adam Curry: No, no. Typically, you'd have to pay $50,000 per
2:37:36
year for four years.
2:37:38
John C Dvorak: Yeah, yeah, we're saving money.
2:37:41
Adam Curry: Let's thank our executive producers and Knights
2:37:44
and Dames who showed up for episode 1600 with a lot of show
2:37:48
number donations. As John alluded to Jonathan Poehler is
2:37:51
from Coors Ville, Virginia. Hey, he can't be a minister of the
2:37:54
Universal Life Church. Sorry. Well, you can but you just can't
2:37:57
marry anyone in Virginia. And he says first heard Adam on Tom
2:38:00
woods in June of 2021. My full my full conversion finally took
2:38:06
place 12 months later in June of 2022. With little help from my
2:38:10
friend, Chris some time. I'd love to hear the full Adam dog
2:38:15
walking song. Well, I don't think we really have time to
2:38:19
play to play. There wasn't a dog walking. What was that about? I
2:38:24
can't remember dog walking now. I think it was. Was that trapped
2:38:31
dog? I don't know. Oh, by the way too many eggs.com it sir
2:38:36
Jonathan of the fan mountain. Ugh knots and for supper. This
2:38:42
means that the round to table he'd like to eat his connais
2:38:45
lays kinase Kenneally catalase. What a catalase.
2:38:51
John C Dvorak: Cantlay is a board dough desert at his killer
2:38:55
if you can find somebody knows how to make them read. They're
2:38:57
kind of they have to be made in a copper pan is that they're
2:39:03
cute little things you've probably had when you don't even
2:39:05
Adam Curry: know them on fire. Do you put them on fire? No.
2:39:09
Okay, and with that he wants a small glass of colostrum.
2:39:12
John C Dvorak: Oh pool.
2:39:15
Adam Curry: What is colostrum?
2:39:16
John C Dvorak: Just a goop that comes out of a woman after she
2:39:19
gives birth. Oh.
2:39:23
Adam Curry: Thanks. Thanks, Jonathan. Good one, bro. Nice.
2:39:29
Okay. All right. As 16 133 top executive producer and show
2:39:35
dough Norton Show number donor donor. Thank you very much. And
2:39:38
we will have your request ready at the roundtable?
2:39:43
John C Dvorak: Yeah. Yeah, put some saran wrap over a dame CeCe
2:39:47
in Greensboro, Georgia. 1600 another one. Congratulations.
2:39:53
Here's the 1600 more the shown number donation brings you up to
2:39:56
Baronet Tessa, other than that, I have nothing clever to say
2:40:00
Thank you both for doing the work so we don't have to no
2:40:04
jingles no karma. That's nice name CC. And by the way, both
2:40:08
Jonathan and DMCC will get the diplomas if they want them. And
2:40:12
those are you had to fill out the form at the no agenda
2:40:14
rings.com site has got it we got a link there.
2:40:18
Adam Curry: Okay, so then they just send their address that
2:40:20
makes it very Yeah, just an address for shipping. Dame Nancy
2:40:23
is in Waco, Texas 1600 And she says congratulations and thank
2:40:27
you for 1600 episodes it's an honor to earn or buy a PhD in
2:40:31
media deconstruction. That's right Dr. Philosophy Be on the
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lookout for the first don't Austin my waco meetup coming
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soon. Damn now Baronet s Nancy the road trip girlfriend
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excellent you get your upgrade you get your and
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John C Dvorak: there's Bruce Shrum in Harrisburg Pennsylvania
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was 1600 is a nice oh please oh please my donation is small but
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could you fake tonight at the round table? Okay, I would like
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to be I would like to be called out I would like to be called
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out in backwards if at all possible I can't decipher what
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Adam Curry: does it mean maybe it means sir out in sir out in
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backwards, sir. out backwards? I think so.
2:41:18
John C Dvorak: Excuse my stroke. I will be harder next. We'll try
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harder next time sincere Bruce. Okay.
2:41:24
Adam Curry: Right. Um, I love that people are just donating
2:41:26
boom, in and out. One and done. One dude named Ralph Miami,
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Florida. John and Adam. Congrats on reaching 1600 shows I look
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forward to proudly displaying my PhD in media deconstruction. I'd
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like Cuban sandwiches and Kapha CTOs. What are Kapha CTOs? I
2:41:43
have no idea when he wants that at the roundtable. warmest
2:41:46
regards, dude named Ralph PS. That's the title for now. Okay,
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I'll title TBD for now. All right.
2:41:54
John C Dvorak: Given that, all right, that's our $1,600
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superstars. Let's start with those who are still here. Now we
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got two donations for the diploma circus media in Bozeman,
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Montana. $1,000.01. Congratulations on 1600 episodes
2:42:11
in 16 years of programming. I've been listening since around 900.
2:42:15
And I've listened to every episode prior to my discovering
2:42:18
the best podcast in universe according to the Muller report,
2:42:21
thus, the honorific of a doctorate immediate gets
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deconstruction is too enticing and offer to pass by and quite
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arguably, well earned. I agree. Please accept his binary
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donation of 101 in exchange for the value I've received since
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episode 1500 1001 equals 33. Well done gentlemen. Life is lit
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circus media Baron of Bozeman and greater good Loudoun
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Gallatin Valley, Gallatin, Gallatin dating karma
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Adam Curry: Nicolas Everts EB four this is interesting. In
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Gallatin, Tennessee, we just had the greatest Valley All right.
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$1,000, no jingles no karma S and S l. One is SMSL.
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John C Dvorak: This is I have no idea.
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Adam Curry: Now Baronet Nikko of the hills with a PhD in media
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dissection named change appreciated health karma to all
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members of the nation. You got it health karma S and S l.
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John C Dvorak: Stroh Rocha no shung paying in. Li Lancaster UK
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1000 And with his Chinese name, he says how are all comrades? A
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PhD for one kg is too good to pass up. I'll be known his forte
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for that as sir. Why you come now. Okay. King Wong, please
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prepare Chinese hotpot and some Korean soju for me at the
2:44:08
roundtable. Love the show for jingles. fisting nuts, then hot
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on leg.
2:44:14
Adam Curry: Assisting nuts is too long. It's not a jingle.
2:44:17
It's a minute long, but I'll play a little bit of it and you
2:44:19
will get your hot on leg. Just go for John, tell us your peeve
2:44:24
about the fisting method of eating snacks.
2:44:28
John C Dvorak: I see this on the airplane and it's very annoying
2:44:30
and I think it will result in in fights breaking out as it just
2:44:34
so annoying to watch. guy takes his bag of peanuts and throws a
2:44:38
pile of them into his palm of his hand and then he makes a
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fist around the nuts.
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Adam Curry: I just felt something hot on my legs. Yes,
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you that worked out perfect. That worked out. Jeff Anderson
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is good for 1000 in the morning, John and Adam, thank you for a
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great show. I've been listening for 15 years Just so have
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absolutely earned my doctorate by now. I will keep praying for
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you both and all the producers and he says go podcasting. Thank
2:45:08
you. Thank you so much brother. Good to have you here.
2:45:10
John C Dvorak: Jeff Lightner in Zionsville Pennsylvania 1000 ITM
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doctors Oh, wow. And executive producer knighthood and
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doctorate all in one. How can you resist de douche me please?
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Unknown: You've been de deuced
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John C Dvorak: I would like to be knighted Suri. Suri. Yes,
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sir. PhD of the south eastern mountains of Pennsylvania. Give
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me a seat at the corner of the roundtable where the
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paratroopers hang out. And I requested grass fed ribeye and
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Genis to celebrate. I'm a kitchen and bath remodeling
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contractor designer, I'd like to give some bet something back by
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Unknown: You've got
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Adam Curry: and we move on to Thomas sneeze ik sneeze ik I
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believe sneeze ik $1,000 Thank you for your courage please do
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Adam Curry: to me Dr. Tom of upstate New York F 35 Scream
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karma you got it.
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Unknown: You've got karma
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John C Dvorak: sir otaku and Flower Mound Texas 1000 years my
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tuition for the PhD in media deconstruction the best
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university in the universe. It comes from the no agenda show
2:47:10
yeah Congratula we have to make that clear. But congratulations
2:47:13
on 16 years and 1600 episodes can I get a JCD mac and cheese
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with a little girl yay sir oh taco the Duke of North East
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Texas and the Red River Valley. You slaves get get used to mac
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and cheese macaroni and cheese melted together
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Adam Curry: mac and cheese mac and cheese mac and cheese mac
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and cheese everybody. Fan we move from Sir otaku to Bessie
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Tolbert foretold bear hey John nada my husband hit me in the
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mouth a few years ago she says the T is silent Tober Tober
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okay, my husband hit me in the mouth a few years back it's been
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a minute since we donated so thanks for that reedy douchey
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Unknown: you've been de deuced
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Adam Curry: appreciate the show and all the insights you provide
2:48:05
yet karma for everyone Dame Bessie the T is silent friend to
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all creatures great and small roundtable Manhattan's with
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river set right and medium rare ribeye. Oh very nice. Jingles
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resist we much W etc. Seven and that's true and resist.
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Unknown: We much. We must and we will much about that. Be
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committed
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Adam Curry: Yes, true.
2:48:40
John C Dvorak: You know, when I read her note, I looked at it
2:48:43
and she said that he is silent. I say her How do you pronounce
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it old Bert?
2:48:50
Adam Curry: Oh my, um, we better get more warmed up in the
2:48:52
bullpen?
2:48:53
John C Dvorak: Sure. skywriting Bethesda, Maryland $1,000 I've
2:48:57
been a producer since show 100 That's Adam quit I quit nice. I
2:49:03
think the 45,000 hours of no agenda education you to have
2:49:07
produced is more than worthy of a PhD degree. I don't think that
2:49:11
would be proud to be known as Sir Skyride. Doctor of media
2:49:14
deconstruction studies.
2:49:17
Adam Curry: Somehow I don't think it's 45,000 maybe 4500
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John C Dvorak: I said 45,000 But it says 45,000 is note Oh,
2:49:29
Adam Curry: does it No, it doesn't says 4500 But I say
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John C Dvorak: 45 45,000 You think it's 45,000? No, that's
2:49:37
Adam Curry: what you said. Oh, nice.
2:49:39
John C Dvorak: What I said I misread it. Okay, got it.
2:49:43
Adam Curry: Thanks for confusing us sir. Sky right. You're
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welcome sir. dude named Dr. Kelly. Abbotsford British
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Columbia. Oh, well, we're gonna have to honor this. 730 cans and
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avian. Yeah, we've pushed them up here. That's 1000 in us I
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guess we're all Yep, here it is.
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John C Dvorak: A man is 1000 Canadian at Canada Navy and now
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I have something to say here to Dr. Kelly for his note first no
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till in the morning
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Adam Curry: Adam and John here's my donation of 1000 Canadian
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dollar at 730 USD when I heard about receiving a Doctorate of
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deconstruction, I knew I had to have that title this 1000 also
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upgrade me to Baronet Please play the gun I need a Bitcoin
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jingle thanks for keeping us sane sir dude named Dr. Kelly
2:50:26
Knight of the Fraser Valley before I play that tell us what
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you wanted to say.
2:50:31
John C Dvorak: I don't know I'd like to know what link he
2:50:33
clicked to donate this money because it's one of the links
2:50:37
that hooks to the to the old legacy account so he sent his
2:50:42
note and Jay sent me know saying do I always have a record of
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this guy's donations look in the legacy accounting there it was
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right in the top and I don't know how you get there from
2:50:51
here.
2:50:51
Adam Curry: Maybe he still just has that legacy account in his
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PayPal. It hangs around
2:50:56
John C Dvorak: you might something like that does go on
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but it's just mystifies me
2:51:00
Adam Curry: Yeah. And so we're still honoring this for so so
2:51:03
Canada Naviance can now become a PhD on the cheap
2:51:07
John C Dvorak: well this was a little gotcha that he brought up
2:51:11
obviously I was not unaware of the idea I couldn't but no we
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had honored we've been honoring the count these these monies for
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so I guess yeah, as you mentioned on ws as such it's
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gonna be a pain in the ass to ship to anything that Canada
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Adam Curry: as you mentioned on D H unplugged, we got to be nice
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to the Kansas aliens because we went to war with them and they
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kicked our ass. They did
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Unknown: that saying that all hell is gonna break loose and
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you're gonna need a Bitcoin.
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John C Dvorak: Indie no agenda tribal meetup allocate from
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Greenwood, Indiana. This is one of the Indiana guys 345 That's
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the money that came in. That's a switcheroo. And it's a donation
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for Tom Gould. He won the raffle. QRP dekap Bay dam from
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the Indiana no place best meetup in the known universe courtesy
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of Eminem, Mark and Maria. Vert tus tunics mores Nan seperate
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Latin there, what does that mean? I have no idea. I mean,
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everybody's virtuous until they get drunk. No jingles? No karma,
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but I would like a small shout out shoot. Shout out to the
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Revolutionary War Veterans Association for Project
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Appleseed. www. Appleseed. info.org Okay,
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Adam Curry: it's actually a virtue has united and deaths
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shall not separate it is the Masonic Messiah from the Masons.
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No, okay, I got it wrong. Aaron Brzezinski is an Atewa Tennessee
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333 dot 33 All he says is please do douchey
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John C Dvorak: is another one does the Portland meet up in
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Portland? Nice he got out alive. Switcheroo. Needless to say we
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survive being doxxed by our friendly neighborhood hater.
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Friendly Neighborhood hater is a symbol for connection and
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protection. The donation credited to Stephanie Stephanie
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gets this one for future game when we have to douchebags in
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attendance that contributed to our communal donation so we need
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to D deuces.
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Unknown: You've been D deuced. Verse one. D deuced
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John C Dvorak: with some good karma, but he wants to mention
2:53:34
that since I've been blocked by John's email on several
2:53:37
occasions, a quote John blocked me jingle is in order if you
2:53:42
have one. Lol. Thanks for keeping us sane. I don't know
2:53:46
what that is mystery to me. Thanks for keeping us sane and
2:53:51
from getting us all jacked up by the am 5am Stay safe.
2:53:55
Adam Curry: We do not have a blocked jingle.
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Unknown: You've got
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Adam Curry: to look forward to the show every Sunday and
2:54:03
Thursday spread the show out over two days driving to and
2:54:06
from work. It's highly enjoyable and definitely helped me keep a
2:54:09
grip on what Saturday I had left during the pandemic. And then he
2:54:12
says he has a funny story about Glenn Beck which is I did read
2:54:15
this. My lovely wife and I went to an And Then There Were None
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event in the Dallas Fort Worth area of the event was a Glenn's
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Museum. Next, the mercury studios. We've talked about this
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phenomenal Museum. He was the keynote of the My wife is on the
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board of the group. And so we got VIP access. Glenn walked in
2:54:31
saw me smiled like we hadn't seen each other for a while,
2:54:33
walked right up, shook my hand and I said hi Glenn. Really easy
2:54:37
like I knew he'd come up to me and he said hi back smiling.
2:54:40
Then I said not a joke. I give my word as a non Biden. I said,
2:54:44
I really love it when you have Adam curry on your show. What an
2:54:47
idiot I thought to myself, but then he just started going off
2:54:50
about how awesome you are and how smart you are, and whatnot.
2:54:53
It was very funny. Keep up the good work. Next time I see him
2:54:56
I'll name drop Jhansi Dvorak.
2:55:00
John C Dvorak: Well, I've told the story before. I caught them.
2:55:05
One of the episodes, and I caught back live on the air
2:55:09
going on about how he thinks you're his brother.
2:55:12
Adam Curry: Yes. from another mother. Yes.
2:55:14
John C Dvorak: doppelganger. Yes.
2:55:16
Adam Curry: We look so much alike. Yeah.
2:55:18
John C Dvorak: And because he just was very he's very
2:55:21
impressed with Adam curry.
2:55:23
Adam Curry: Let me tell you the Glenn Beck audience has has
2:55:26
come. They're here. He has very he's really helped. He is He has
2:55:30
helped with our audience, our producer attendance. So we
2:55:33
appreciate that it's
2:55:34
John C Dvorak: a plus, is it because we provide something
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nobody else seems to provide?
2:55:38
Adam Curry: And Jeremy wants a jobs card with a goat screen.
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Unknown: Jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs.
2:55:44
John C Dvorak: Let's vote for jobs. Ashley Corollas need
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Ville, Texas named for a town congratulations on your 16 100th
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episode. Thanks for deconstructing the M five M and
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the knowledge you to both carry around in those big brains. You
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have a shout out the saddle tramp she's the bee's knees.
2:56:13
Peace be with you.
2:56:15
Adam Curry: No. Okay, and F cancer that was the next one.
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I'm sorry. I got confused. I went You went too early. I'm
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sorry. I went too early. I heard sidled tramp and like oh, we're
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good. We're saddled tramp and went to the next one, which is
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Eric Tolbert, or told bear
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John C Dvorak: to bear. Olmert
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Adam Curry: Holbert Topeka, Kansas 333 33 Hello, longtime
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listener, sporadic contributor, please give me a deal
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Unknown: you've been doing?
2:56:46
Adam Curry: Yes, you're right. You're right. It's from the same
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family. I would like to congratulate my smokin hot wife
2:56:51
on becoming a dame on show 1600 Love you Dame Bessie. The T is
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silent. We've been listening since Adams ChIAT run days with
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Brian and Susie. Oh, wow. Wow, that is a long time ago. Please
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give me an F cancer jingle and a health karma for all who needed
2:57:08
thanks for keeping us all saying the Mad farmer Eric Albert or
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toll bear whichever one is correct.
2:57:19
Unknown: You've got karma?
2:57:22
John C Dvorak: Do we come up to sure James Fukumoto in Salem,
2:57:25
Virginia. 33333. been over a year since my last donation the
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bottle number of The Mailbox I shared with my smokin hot
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girlfriend was bottle 33. Time to donate. Thanks for the great
2:57:39
show Sir James Fukumoto, Black Knight,
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Adam Curry: and then we have sir Mr. Bob Dodd Billina Bob da
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bilena San Diego California 333 Hey guys, sir Mr. Bob double
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Lena here love the Ph. D. ID. I have another one for those who
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donated $2,000 Plus, they earned the title His or Her Excellency.
2:57:59
Now we're fine. We're good honorifics. So from now on. I
2:58:03
want to be referred to His Excellency Mr. Bob Dobbs Alina,
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I'll be the first rock on Ubu brother just put it in your
2:58:10
donation note we'll be happy to
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John C Dvorak: call anyone excellency James Anderson's up
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next call him that he's in Vancouver, Vancouver but not
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Vancouver. Canada is in Vancouver Washington. Which is a
2:58:21
real smart money place to live you get the no personal income
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tax of Washington State and you jump on the bridge you go right
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to Portland and there's no sales tax. With as welkeys Yeah, but
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you can you can navigate them. I see Emma John and Adam, Adam
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cane Adam and John Forgive me I've been a boner for too long.
2:58:45
And again, my contribution of 320 double 160 donation is the
2:58:50
tithing that I offer the BP itu what uh, what is that clip of
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some general talking about why America became the world police
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after World War Two. I would like to find the entire speech
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because that was Wesley Clark. No, no. Oh, no, he's talking
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about I'm pretty sure he's talking about the speech by
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Miley. Oh my Lea we played that's what he talks about
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specifically the world police Miley or milli, Milli, milli
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milli Milan. What did I think Miley Cyrus? Did milli milli
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Cyrus 1600 Night previous accounting below please title me
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Sir James at the Southwest Washington as always ready
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already night for hookers and blow. I would like for jobs
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karma, but I think it is more important to send F 35 karma to
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my son in the army and I think so too. Sir. James is southwest
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Washington.
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Unknown: He's got karma.
2:59:50
Adam Curry: And with 316 33 Gaucho woodworking in Redondo
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Beach, California. Happy 60th anniversary and you never How to
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John C Dvorak: Yeah, I forgot to mention her name in a recent
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show. And who and new Scott Anushka Anushka warty in
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Lafayette California is right around here. She could come to
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the meetup Thank ya i Why Why Yipes overdue. Sorry. Happy want
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1600 I don't have a clever number joke to make so I'll just
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say this still enjoying no agenda every Thursday and
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sometimes every Sunday. give gifts give CELTA something for
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failure.
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Adam Curry: teared? Oh,
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John C Dvorak: it's always this Dutch. Yes.
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Adam Curry: It's a fairly I'd say it's a fairly she teared.
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John C Dvorak: So she came out to under 50 bucks and she's
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Associate Executive Producer.
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Adam Curry: Also associate exec with a great number two three
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4.56 from Redondo West Mike sislo. Ah, hello, Mike. I know
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Mike his. His wife. Who is Dane elemental gypsy of the manasota
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key was stayed here.
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John C Dvorak: The without Mike without Mike.
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Adam Curry: Yes, she is. She arrived on Wednesday as she and
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the keeper. A Tuesday I think Is she in the keeper left
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Wednesday. They're on a hiking trip with six other women. I
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think all of them are no agenda listeners I believe is going on
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as we speak as we speak. Yes, it is just me and Phoebe in the
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house. It is the chicks explorer group. I think it's what they're
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called. And Mike says seeing as our wives are started some gang
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out terrorizing parts of Utah. Yeah, there Bryce Canyon. I felt
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compelled or you know, yeah, I'm a little gel. I felt yelled I
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knew I get you with that one. I felt compelled to get a donation
3:02:06
to the show in case you needed to front some bail money. Keep
3:02:11
up the awesome work. And when you run for mayor you got my
3:02:14
vote. Thanks for Mike Mike. Thank you brother. Excellent.
3:02:17
And your your Dame is very, very nice lady. We had we had a good
3:02:21
laugh with her. Just funny.
3:02:25
John C Dvorak: Zane Hart in bars. Scrub a Queensland
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Australia. The switcheroo is for Daryl James make a note from
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from his son, Zane Hart. He is one of the OG day one listeners
3:02:39
and has been chipping away towards knighthood since v four
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v started hoping this may push him over the line first and last
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time I'm happy to be punched in the mouth. Using this note
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Stronach. You're a mando douche bag. Douche bag
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Adam Curry: Sorry, sorry, sorry.
3:02:59
John C Dvorak: Please play please play all the karma ISOs
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every single one of them at least 2x speed because speed
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casting is lit bitches
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Adam Curry: now I'm not going to do that but I did come up with
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something else for him. I forgot to do all the in the mornings in
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a row
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thought that was a lot better. I think so to Justin the squeaky
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growler guys in Hayden Idaho 201 Howdy gents. I'm donating in
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honor of my daughter, Cameron turning 10 on the 19th test
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today. Who always asked to listen to the birthday call outs
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if possible. I'd like a D douching.
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Unknown: You've been D deuced.
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Adam Curry: Along with a Pelosi Let's vote for jobs and Obama
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said jobs karma I guess. And a Obama NO NO NO NO jingles Okay.
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I'm going to do one of them. Yes. Justin the squeaky car
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washing grower guy of Carter lane. Code Lane Idaho. You got
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it. I've been watching you
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Unknown: I love your jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs.
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John C Dvorak: Let's vote for jobs. Karma. Ted home Meyer in
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Rancho Santa Margarita, California. 200. listening for
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John has nothing to do with that keyboard jobs,
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Adam Curry: anonymous spirit of the north woods here driving
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Adam Curry: It has to be redone. Something was done incorrectly.
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Okay, it was
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Adam Curry: okay I'm struggling for a night name. So for now
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call me certainly not please rustle up some pickled pike. An
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Adam Curry: I don't see it. Okay, then I guess we're okay.
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John C Dvorak: I guess you're probably okay if it's not on the
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December for you today looking forward to see all the Midwest
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a party.
3:28:35
John C Dvorak: It's almost like a party. Do you have an idea for
3:28:40
a shows?
3:28:41
Adam Curry: I think I got a couple of good ones actually. I
3:28:44
think a is it do I start? Is that the Yeah, it was
3:28:49
John C Dvorak: mites are less sensitive.
3:28:50
Adam Curry: dealio Okay, do it for your penis. All right,
3:28:54
that's
3:28:55
John C Dvorak: nuts out.
3:28:57
Adam Curry: I am not woke. Mm hmm. This feels good. Huh. And
3:29:06
this This is this is I think the kicker? What does this have
3:29:09
Unknown: to do with podcasting?
3:29:11
John C Dvorak: Come on. I liked that one. But I don't think I
3:29:13
think that I think it should be more about the show.
3:29:15
Adam Curry: Well, that's why like, what does this have to do
3:29:17
about the podcast? And that's why I thought it was a good one.
3:29:20
John C Dvorak: Okay, well, I have one about the show that I'm
3:29:22
not gonna skip the stupid one because there's no good anyway.
3:29:26
But I think try generations.
3:29:30
Adam Curry: generations will not forget. Hmm, okay.
3:29:34
John C Dvorak: Okay, well, then here's one that refers to the
3:29:37
show. Not going.
3:29:40
Adam Curry: And we are not going anywhere. Yeah, that's not bad.
3:29:44
Yeah.
3:29:46
John C Dvorak: And then the last one is just because this show is
3:29:48
long and it's show 1600 Just a round of applause.
3:29:58
Adam Curry: This has a real please Clap vibe. I think not
3:30:01
going anywhere is pretty good.
3:30:06
John C Dvorak: Yeah, I do do
3:30:07
Adam Curry: I think I think that's I think that's the winner
3:30:08
right there. That's the winner. The winner
3:30:12
John C Dvorak: because we're not going anywhere.
3:30:13
Adam Curry: We're not going anywhere people.
3:30:14
John C Dvorak: I know we're gonna be here on Sunday.
3:30:16
Adam Curry: Yes. Do you? Do you have one last clip you want to
3:30:19
play? I do
3:30:20
John C Dvorak: have one less clip which is interesting. It's
3:30:22
a suit to Dan update. So it keeps us on Africa clip if you
3:30:26
haven't noticed. last clip of the show six months
3:30:29
Unknown: of war in Sudan have plunged the country into one of
3:30:32
the worst humanitarian nightmares in recent history,
3:30:35
killing up to 9000 people and displacing over 5 million. That
3:30:38
was the stark warning issued by the United Nations which said at
3:30:42
least 25 million people in Sudan are also in need of urgent
3:30:45
humanitarian relief. Humanitarian Aid Relief has been
3:30:48
hindered by violence between the Sudanese army and the rapid
3:30:51
support forces since fighting broke out in April. The
3:30:54
healthcare situation is also dire. As many medical facilities
3:30:57
and conflict areas have been shuttered. Human rights groups
3:31:00
have condemned the ongoing targeting and killing of
3:31:03
civilians and journalists. That Committee to Protect Journalists
3:31:06
is demanding an investigation into the October 10 killing of
3:31:08
Sudanese journalist Halima Idris Salim, who died after RSF
3:31:13
fighters reportedly ran over her with a vehicle while she covered
3:31:17
the conflict in the city of undermined
3:31:20
Adam Curry: Nothing says let's end the show on a high note by
3:31:23
someone getting run over that's really nice and is it Sudan or
3:31:27
Sue Don
3:31:29
John C Dvorak: this done so this is what's going on you know,
3:31:32
although everything is breaking loose just gotta control and
3:31:36
this Diane is just a mess.
3:31:39
Adam Curry: I want to thank everybody very much from the
3:31:42
bottom of my heart and my wife's bottom as well thank you very
3:31:45
much for supporting us for 1600 episodes some of you you know
3:31:49
who you are for those who are new for those who came over from
3:31:52
different appearances and I'm just kind of stuck around and
3:31:55
take it out that this is a place for sanity and for good and
3:31:58
perfect size amigos we thank you for supporting us without you we
3:32:01
could not do it that's why you're not listeners you're not
3:32:04
fans you are producers. And don't you forget it thank you
3:32:10
John C Dvorak: yeah I second debt
3:32:11
Adam Curry: by request we have the get one nation national
3:32:14
anthem coming up sound guy Steve with a classic riding with Biden
3:32:17
and Maddie j with a little look back at some of the liquids John
3:32:21
drinks during the show from the past episodes. And up next on no
3:32:27
agenda stream. We have planet rage. Episode number 99. So stay
3:32:33
tuned for that coming to you. As always from the heart of the
3:32:37
Texas hill country here in FEMA Region number six in the morning
3:32:40
everybody. I'm Adam curry
3:32:42
John C Dvorak: in from Northern Silicon Valley where everybody's
3:32:45
celebrating show 1600 Who else can do that? I'm Josie Devorah
3:32:50
Adam Curry: we return on Sunday and we are looking forward to it
3:32:53
in our 16 weeks here as we soon will be celebrating 16 years
3:32:58
together as well and we never had a fight see on 1601
3:33:04
Everybody and in the meantime remember us it to vorak.org/na
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or no agenda donations.com Until then adios mofos or Hui Hui ants
3:33:24
Unknown: ladies and gentlemen please rise for your demo nation
3:33:33
My name is Mo we are to be human resources as in all lands from
3:33:50
the east to the west down the land we
3:34:11
ready we are united and that's what we did we stayed United
3:34:18
Adam Curry: American government spend more money
3:34:24
Unknown: it matters. I'll be honest with you, as always
3:34:27
promised every day all supply and justify you agree with the
3:34:31
vote falsify. And justify for years to come. All Americans
3:34:37
have repeatedly shown that they will not tolerate anyone who
3:34:41
tries to take your country backwards. We're going to be
3:34:44
okay. I call it Building a Better America. By no news about
3:34:51
what's happening can seem alarming to all Americans. But
3:34:54
the next few days, weeks and months will be hard on my watch
3:35:00
To know whether we're going to be okay. In the history of this
3:35:04
era is when America will be weaker and the rest of the world
3:35:08
stronger. Everyone from students to retirees to teachers proud
3:35:13
proud people pound for pound ready to fight with every inch
3:35:16
of earners do they have this is a real test is gonna take time.
3:35:24
It hasn't worked for working people in this nation for too
3:35:26
long. All across America.
3:35:31
John C Dvorak: I get it. It's one of
3:35:33
Unknown: my top priorities getting Americans under control
3:35:36
and throughout our history to cause more chaos. Every
3:35:42
administration says they'll do it. Now everyone sees it
3:35:45
clearly. I really need to think about this moment that our
3:35:51
character this generation has formed purposes. A futures for
3:36:01
America as we stand ready to do more if necessary. Think about
3:36:12
not looking to punish anybody. All Americans have repeatedly
3:36:16
shown that they will not tolerate anyone who tries to
3:36:19
take their country backwards. That's great. And I agree. Oh,
3:36:23
what
3:36:23
Adam Curry: are you drinking? John? What are you drinking?
3:36:24
What are you drinking? What are you drinking? What are you
3:36:26
drinking? What are you drinking? What are we drinking today?
3:36:29
John C Dvorak: Today's beverage of choices. My last bottle of
3:36:32
Topo G Joe Pellegrino is cinsaut. Just plain old polar
3:36:37
Okay, his polar unflavored natural seltzer. Seltzer,
3:36:41
Unknown: Seltzer, seltzer.
3:36:43
John C Dvorak: Seltzer is sparkling water and unfiltered
3:36:46
sparkling water with electrolytes
3:36:49
Adam Curry: I'll take the opium and warm orange juice please
3:36:52
John C Dvorak: I really like low bandwidth, which is a bubbling
3:36:55
water from France through shitters but that is the Blue
3:36:58
Bottle Perry which had the bad dua sparkle would look quite
3:37:02
pure. What's it called the Troy the crock. I said look, wow, the
3:37:05
quarry.
3:37:06
Adam Curry: The CRO
3:37:07
John C Dvorak: CRO rob the chronic and the CRO CRO water.
3:37:10
Overpriced bubbly water in a cat. Well, water can be very
3:37:14
tasty.
3:37:15
Adam Curry: It's heavenly. We haven't tested yet since it has
3:37:18
no COVID
3:37:18
John C Dvorak: V eight sparkling energy. orange pineapple drink.
3:37:23
more caffeine than a cola was jacked up on this energy drink.
3:37:29
Adam Curry: You know that's good drinking right there.
3:37:30
John C Dvorak: I mean, if you're not drinking coffee right now
3:37:32
you're crazy. What about beer? I'm going to crack open a beer
3:37:36
and then drink it down. All right, a Bud Light. I'm drinking
3:37:39
Bud Light. 10 times better Newcastle. A couple of glasses a
3:37:43
couple of high balls a tall tumbler with no ice of Chivas
3:37:49
while there you go get your fat sitting at the pool drinking
3:37:52
pina coladas No, bullet crap just put it on the table with
3:37:59
drinks in the bottle
3:38:07
Adam Curry: hands around.
3:38:08
John C Dvorak: No I was under my foot. You just sit in a pile of
3:38:14
cans you
3:38:15
Adam Curry: know every show when you when you open up your drink
3:38:18
does that can go on?
3:38:29
Unknown: MoPhO vorak.org/n A and we are not going anywhere.
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