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John C Dvorak: Yeah babies is a
winner.
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Adam Curry: Adam curry Jhansi
Devora November 5 2023 This
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short horde winning combination
media assassination episode
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1605. This is no agenda.
Remembering the system of Ember
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and broadcasting live from the
heart of the Texas hill country
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here in the region number six in
the morning, everybody. I'm Adam
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curry,
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John C Dvorak: and from Northern
Silicon Valley where literally
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nobody knows what it means when
you say that you look like the
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Bobbsey Twins, and Jhansi
Dvorak.
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Adam Curry: That's funny. I said
that just the other day to
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somebody. So someone literally
knew but but they were 60. So
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the only 60 year olds know the
Bob's you know, nobody knows.
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Nobody knows the Bobbsey Twins
anymore. How about you?
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John C Dvorak: Of course I do.
Okay, tell us.
0:52
Adam Curry: What was the
challenge? The Bobbsey Twins was
0:55
like a children's adventure
book. And I'll give you another
1:01
one. The Happy Halloween stirs.
Do you remember them? No.
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John C Dvorak: Man, that one?
That did you remember that? All
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I remember is the Bobbsey Twins
commentary. I didn't realize
1:13
that it was a series of books
from about the early 1900s.
1:16
Yeah, to the 70s. So it's like
75 volumes.
1:19
Adam Curry: Yeah. And how about
this? Tom Swift?
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John C Dvorak: Yeah, Tom Swift.
Yeah, I I used to read Tom Swift
1:26
when I was a kid,
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Adam Curry: Tom Swift. It was
from the late I think it was.
1:31
There wasn't even before 1900
Tom Swift. This is really old. I
1:36
had no idea that
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John C Dvorak: we have computers
in front of
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Adam Curry: us. Oh, okay. Well,
if you want to do if we have to
1:44
do that, it was Tom Swift and
his electric grandmother Tom
1:48
Swift and his. His flying 1910
Okay, I was close. Only only
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twins predates him. Oh, yeah.
Victor Appleton. That's what is
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Victor Appleton wrote to Tom So
the question
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John C Dvorak: remains what is
it mean when you say you look
2:03
like the Bobbsey Twins, the
Bobbsey Twins? were twins. It
2:06
was just it's actually there are
two sets of twins in the
2:09
stories. One and they were any
paternal?
2:13
Adam Curry: Hey, kids. This
2:13
John C Dvorak: is stuff you need
to know. The main pair were
2:17
paternal. Yeah. And so I was
thinking about this. Because
2:25
looking like the Bobbsey Twins
doesn't mean you're dressed like
2:28
oh,
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Adam Curry: I mean, really?
Because that's the way I was
2:32
interpreted, but maybe it's
because you sound like like
2:34
you're saying the same thing?
2:35
John C Dvorak: No, it's when
you're wearing kind of frilly
2:39
girly stuff. And you're a boy.
Oh,
2:42
Adam Curry: I don't know. Well,
that's never the way I've used
2:44
it.
2:45
John C Dvorak: All you have to
do is look at the covers of all
2:46
these What did the Bobbsey Twins
always look like? They're all
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free wearing really really
crappy. They look like really
2:53
crappy Bobbsey
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Adam Curry: Twins. They looked
like the Bobbsey Twins. Wow. A
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lot to discuss today. Remember,
remember the fifth of November
3:01
gunpowder treason and plot,
which seems to be forgotten. Is
3:06
he talking about this is this
was the the plot on the British
3:09
Parliament
3:09
John C Dvorak: point that you
know, I remember plot on the
3:12
British Parliament,
3:13
Adam Curry: as documented in V
for Victory where everyone got
3:16
the anonymous masks from Have we
forgotten this already? Boy?
3:20
Yeah, I guess so. Guy Fawkes
Day. That's what it is. Will we
3:25
still be lighting stuff up in
the UK doubtful leaves to have
3:29
bonfires doubtful. Can't do that
anymore. That will be against
3:33
the law. Because
3:35
John C Dvorak: no, it's
polluting the climate
3:37
Adam Curry: change. In addition,
speaking of change, we had
3:41
daylight saving time change.
3:44
John C Dvorak: We're doing this
show at noon.
3:47
Adam Curry: It's still unknown.
We're doing the show at two.
3:52
It's still unclear why the
elites do this to us twice a
3:55
year. It's actually screwed up.
A an appointment I had earlier
4:00
in the week because Europe
changed last weekend. This is
4:03
this is what I've never
understood. Why don't we all
4:05
change on the same day globally?
Do we have a different sun here
4:09
than we have in
4:10
John C Dvorak: UAE United
Nations that determined this.
4:12
You want one world government?
4:16
Adam Curry: I'm on the fence. I
mean, no. I don't want world one
4:18
world government. And there's
still
4:20
John C Dvorak: you're advocating
right here.
4:22
Adam Curry: Oh, you are feisty
today. AirDog. There is there is
4:28
still no honest no one answer to
this. This hoax that they
4:32
perpetrate upon
4:34
John C Dvorak: Arizona. They got
their own time. Would they have
4:37
Oh, complete warp. They're like,
whatever time it is there. It's
4:40
nowhere else. It's insane.
4:43
Adam Curry: It's insane. Before
we get into everything today,
4:48
I'd like to read a note from
Knight Andrew, you received this
4:51
note as well. I think it's
important that we just discussed
4:54
this for a moment.
4:56
John C Dvorak: Oh, that's this
is not the good note.
4:58
Adam Curry: This is the good
note. Yeah, this is the good
5:00
Good note.
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John C Dvorak: No the good notes
call it new doing it causes
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dipshits
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Adam Curry: No, we didn't call
us dipshits. Take a look at what
5:08
you've become. That's I think
that was that's what that note
5:11
was. No, this is from Knight
Andrew. And it's good because we
5:16
have been doing this for 16
years we've seen this come and
5:19
go. It's gotten progressively
worse the divide and conquer
5:24
strategy of the global elitist,
evil, whatever that is. And it's
5:31
just as taking hold to such a
degree that that some people are
5:35
just falling right off the edge.
They
5:37
John C Dvorak: do it a drop of a
hat at the drop of a hat. All of
5:40
our work goes for naught.
5:43
Adam Curry: We've never been
right about anything. How
5:46
quickly they forget. So night
Andrew says I've been meaning to
5:49
write you for a few weeks now.
When you guys began your review
5:52
of the Israel Hamas conflict I
was rather disgusted. And how
5:56
you both blithely good word
blithely is a good word blithely
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What does blithely mean?
blithely it
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John C Dvorak: means
nonchalantly Don
6:04
Adam Curry: Shula blithely spoke
about the atrocities Hamas
6:07
perpetrated even questioning the
veracity of stories and videos,
6:11
visual evidence, appreciating no
agenda over the past year since
6:16
2020. Since you night Andrew is
relatively new, and specifically
6:20
your person your perspective on
many controversial things. I was
6:23
dismayed the way you guys
approach this topic. I
6:26
understand there have been other
debatable topics that people
6:28
have gone overboard for less,
would this be the straw for me?
6:34
One of the initial episodes
reviewing the heinous act of
6:36
Hamas You both seem to challenge
the veracity of claims of babies
6:40
being beheaded and such and no
agenda one from the highlight of
6:43
my listens to my Kate listen.
When I was in college, I called
6:50
my mother during a mild
snowstorm she told me how my
6:52
sister younger than me, had gone
out in the snow driving to her
6:56
boyfriend's house, he wasn't a
lowlife, a worthless fellow. On
6:59
her way she built from blithely
to a novel, I like it. On her
7:07
way, she crashed on the
interstate, totally her car, she
7:10
was all right, but my mother
indicted my sister, if she'd
7:13
only listened, this wouldn't
have happened. From that point
7:16
on, I decided not to give
another person the power of
7:19
saying I told you so. Especially
when I respect that person given
7:23
their insight and reputation.
I'm not likely to heed some
7:27
randos advice though, anyway,
when everything within me was
7:30
revolting to continue to listen
to no agenda during that initial
7:34
segment, I remembered the many
letters and stories you have
7:37
shared about weak minded and
weak spirited people who were
7:40
lost overboard because they
heard something they didn't
7:43
like. I did not want to be like
them the value and insight
7:46
you've provided to me outweighed
this offense. I didn't quit
7:50
listening then and I'm still up
to date. Thank you for the work,
7:53
understanding and appreciating
the eluded point that you guys
7:56
are trying to be objective and
question everything. You guys
8:01
weren't exactly trying to to two
sides this as much as saying
8:05
nothing can be trusted Exactly.
The Lord uses various means to
8:10
bring people and keep people for
himself and salvation.
8:12
Similarly, reading often hate
letters of douchebags who become
8:16
radicalized is strangely a means
of keeping me listening and
8:20
ultimately, keeping my sanity.
Sincerely and grateful night,
8:24
Andrew and I want to thank you
for that. And I want to just
8:27
respond quickly. Because the one
thing you know, Alex Jones, the
8:31
one thing I've always been
envious about is that he has
8:34
Infowars because that's really
what's going on Info Wars and
8:39
he's gone way beyond that. But
the information wars that go on
8:43
for our minds all day long is
really what we're dealing with.
8:46
We still I would say we are
maybe not you, but the rest of
8:50
us all have trauma worldwide
from COVID From lockdowns and
8:53
it's used to control you. This
trauma is particularly people
8:57
who are you know, who say
they're woke and aren't
9:00
obviously woke that's it truly
is MK Ultra without the drugs
9:04
and they probably have the drugs
with SSRIs, etc. No agenda
9:07
listeners are just as
susceptible. The people now in
9:12
Paris, London, New York, Rome.
The people protesting for
9:20
Palestine are the very same
people who told you to die for
9:24
not being vaccinated or wearing
a mask who were allowed to riot
9:28
and burn for BLM during COVID
restrictions when no one else
9:32
was allowed out. Remember that
the peaceful protest who accused
9:36
many of you for committing
genocide and LGBTQ people for
9:39
not buying into the gender
fluidity bullcrap who support
9:44
annihilating Russia from the
economic world and using all
9:48
weapons available to remove them
from the map? What is these are
9:51
the same people who are
hysterical about climate change,
9:55
which is about the fifth version
of this blatant lie in my
9:58
lifetime. It was global cooling
global warming then that didn't
10:02
work out when a climate change.
It's also the same people who
10:06
are going to move to Canada
because Trump would destroy
10:08
America. being abused, being
abused by forces, it doesn't
10:14
come down to one individual or
group, online video and five M
10:18
social media. Yes, even no
agenda social without algos are
10:23
perfect carriers for this trauma
based entertainment. So we've do
10:28
our best not to pick sides in
any of the things that we've
10:31
been through. And it's been a
lot. We do want to show you that
10:34
all sides are full of crap. The
meanwhile pay attention to your
10:39
own community where you live.
Have you been to a city
10:41
recently? Have you taken a look
around? It's not just New York
10:45
or Chicago, the other people
that are hanging down like
10:48
zombies. From tranq and
fentanyl, it's in London. It's
10:53
in Paris. It's an Amsterdam. But
we're being taught to be
10:57
obsessed over anything but your
own your own situation. And it's
11:04
all being abused by political
powers.
11:07
John C Dvorak: I liked it. Hello
dipshits letter better? Do
11:11
Adam Curry: you have it in front
of you?
11:13
John C Dvorak: I've been looking
for
11:16
Adam Curry: the dipshits letter.
So you know, I mean there is a
11:22
lot more going on besides Israel
and Hamas but oh my goodness are
11:28
we getting out of control with
the Jew hate the Arab hate the
11:32
people hate? This is just you
know, check you out.
11:36
John C Dvorak: This is never
ending this was when I was a kid
11:39
when I was in college. And I
will say anybody out there who's
11:43
like listening who's like a
millennial or a Z when you're my
11:47
age 70 You'll be hearing the
same thing.
11:51
Adam Curry: Yep. Yeah, I'm I'm
60 and I'm already like you.
11:56
This is that's
11:58
John C Dvorak: Bo and you're 70
You'll be hearing the same
12:00
thing. And
12:01
Adam Curry: when I'm 70 I'll be
10 times worse than you Yeah,
12:06
likely right does seem unlikely.
12:09
John C Dvorak: I will say this
about you though. I've
12:11
discovered it aspect of your
personality. Oh, is
12:14
Adam Curry: this good or bad? Is
12:15
John C Dvorak: this a slam?
Yeah. where you're coming from?
12:17
It's good to some and bad to
others. So I've realized that
12:21
you have the personality because
when you play when you're
12:24
playing the they're opening
stuff and you get you hit the
12:27
button and you become the
Freddie the freeloader or
12:30
whatever the fire hydrant guy
and then the devil where you're
12:36
you have the personality of a
ventriloquist that isn't what a
12:39
ventriloquist would do.
12:42
Adam Curry: Who are famous
ventriloquist who was who was
12:45
named some famous ventriloquist
was weird owl, a ventriloquist.
12:49
Like he would have been a
ventriloquist. No,
12:51
John C Dvorak: no, no, there was
Charlie McCarthy. Did Charlie
12:55
McCarthy character the guy was
the ventriloquist era. What's
13:00
your name? The actress his dad
was a ventriloquist and Jeff Don
13:04
and I know Jeff Dunham, Jeff
Dunn. Jeff Dunham's famous
13:08
there's other ones that go back
in time that are faint more
13:10
famous in those days is a bunch
of them Candice Bergen's dad.
13:15
The I can't Bergen Edgar Bergen
Edgar Bergen. Thank you, Joe.
13:19
Obama had his hand up Biden's
but I was having trouble. Yes.
13:25
Adam Curry: Yeah, exactly.
Exactly. Well, let's talk about
13:28
some some protests for just a
moment. And then I seen you have
13:32
the Middle East situation clips.
I just need I've, I've examined
13:37
the protests around the globe.
And I have clips from TR T which
13:42
of course will give you the Arab
perspective, also from France
13:45
24, which who knows what their
perspective is. Every single one
13:49
of these protests has a lot of
handmade signs, but overwhelming
13:53
the the organization is in
charge of either the socialist
13:57
world party or the Socialist
Workers Party. This is a
14:01
complete, politically driven and
organized event on a global
14:05
scale. And they're pulling a lot
off here.
14:07
John C Dvorak: This is why
they're doing it.
14:09
Adam Curry: I think they're
doing a fabulous very good job.
14:11
Here's TRT This is Turkish radio
and television. As the
14:14
Unknown: humanitarian crisis in
Gaza deepens international
14:17
displays of anger grow louder.
The fourth weekend of
14:20
demonstrations in London saw 10s
of 1000s descend on Trafalgar
14:24
Square. Watch across Europe and
popular discontent Israel's
14:29
bombardment of Gaza was visible.
similar numbers were seen in
14:32
Paris gathering near the
Bastille in Berlin. Green and
14:36
red smoke filled the roads where
1000s waved Palestinian flags
14:40
and in Rome 1000s More walk
behind banners calling the
14:44
crisis in Gaza and apartheid.
Outrage echoes through the
14:49
streets at the soaring civilian
death toll of Palestinians. But
14:53
discontent here is rising to
over how Western governments
14:56
aren't dealing with the
situation. They
14:58
know they want to tell us We're
not sure if these are war
15:01
crimes. We think Israel has a
right to defend itself. And then
15:04
they have the problem that
people are seeing on their TV
15:07
screens, Palestinian children
being pulled out of the rubble.
15:12
Dozens have been arrested at
protests in the UK over the last
15:15
four weeks. Authorities here and
elsewhere, warning that
15:18
protesters may be breaking the
law by publicly supporting
15:22
Hamas. British police have
denied that tougher tactics have
15:25
been the result of government
pressure. But there has been
15:28
significant criticism about how
governments are dealing with
15:31
these protests. The UK Home
Secretary Sweller Brockman has
15:36
called the demonstrations hate
marches and seemingly accused
15:39
people of anti semitism that's
come as anti semitic incidents
15:43
have risen across the world.
There's also been a rise in
15:46
Islamophobia. The protests in
London and elsewhere have
15:49
repeatedly been described by
police as largely peaceful, but
15:53
tensions could rise further.
marches are planned for November
15:56
the 11th when Europe
commemorates the end of the
15:58
First World War and remembers
those killed in combat. British
16:02
Prime Minister Rishi Sunak has
said a pro Palestinian protest
16:05
then would be provocative and
disrespectful. Others however,
16:10
have said the ultimate goal of
government in Britain and
16:12
Perhaps Elsewhere, is to
suppress these popular
16:15
expressions of anger at what's
happening in Gaza
16:18
Adam Curry: have guaranteed next
Sunday is going to kick off in
16:20
the UK guarantee that's going to
be a good old time and TRT.
16:26
They're turning it political. Of
course,
16:28
Unknown: in Jordan, the US
Secretary of State found no
16:31
support for his country's
position on the Israel Gaza war.
16:34
Are we going to be talking about
the wasteland? Are we going to
16:37
be talking about a whole
population reduced to refugees?
16:41
Simply we do not know we do not
have all the variables to even
16:45
start thinking about that.
16:46
But unlike his initial Middle
East towards three weeks ago,
16:49
Blinken repeatedly urged the
protection of civilian lives,
16:53
Israel
16:53
must take every possible measure
to prevent civilian casualties.
16:57
In my meetings with Israeli
officials yesterday, I conveyed
17:00
additional steps that they can
and should take to do just that.
17:03
protecting civilians will help
prevent a mosque from further
17:06
exploiting the situation. But
most important, is simply the
17:10
right and moral thing to do. But
those words may be a moral way
17:14
to wage war people a little too
17:16
late now that almost 10,000
Palestinians are dead, public
17:20
opinion and the US has shifted.
Some say they're just no longer
17:25
fearful of speaking out. And you
can see that here in Washington
17:28
where 10s of 1000s have now come
out to call not just for a
17:32
ceasefire, but they say freedom
and equality for all
17:36
Palestinians in this crowd.
Support for Joe Biden, in the
17:40
Democrats has eroded fast
genocide
17:42
and Biden to go away. We need
somebody who's actually for the
17:45
people, not voting for Joe
Biden. for Donald Trump,
17:51
the White House is aware of the
fierce backlash from minority
17:54
communities including Arabs and
Muslims and key voting bloc that
17:57
helped secure Biden's victory in
2020. The question now is what
18:01
the President plans to do to
regain their trust. This me
18:05
knows about you TRT world
Washington rero
18:08
Adam Curry: Oh, yeah, these are
BLM people, the same people that
18:12
the Democrat Party weaponized,
weaponized over and over and
18:16
over again, continue to do so
with trans Mouse. Oh, well, they
18:21
lost control this my final
report that I want to hear your
18:24
clips, they definitely lost
control. But this was, again
18:28
Socialist Workers Party, the the
US Palestinian community
18:33
network, which is a very
interesting organization. We
18:40
organized around a number of
campaigns including BDS,
18:43
boycott, divestment, and
sanctions, political prisoner
18:47
advocacy, arts and culture
events and tours. And they're
18:54
part of the Westpac Foundation,
which not that's where I
18:58
couldn't get much further the
Westpac is in Westchester
19:00
County. They're the ones that
are financing the US Palestinian
19:05
community network. And they've
been around since 1974. We're
19:11
and the SSA themselves in the
website since 1974. We've been
19:14
educating, agitating and
organizing for more just in a
19:18
peaceful world, an end to middle
militarism and racism and a more
19:22
fair economy that works for all
sound familiar? So here is the
19:27
France 24 report because
everybody had reported on the
19:29
streets of Washington, DC.
19:32
Unknown: Yeah, well, this is a
much bigger process than
19:34
expected freedom Plaza, which is
just behind me expected to have
19:38
a couple of 1000 people there.
10s of 1000s showed up they are
19:42
now marching down the streets
away from the White House
19:46
heading towards the Capitol
building kind of area. This is
19:50
bigger than any other pro
Palestine protest that I've seen
19:52
in the two or so weeks that I've
been covering these protests. Do
19:56
you cover a couple that I've
seen before were organized by
19:59
pro Jewish groups? This one is a
much more broad coalition, a
20:02
real mixture of people. We've
seen a sea of flags here, people
20:06
wearing the cavea headscarves
that symbol of Palestinian
20:10
resistance, and people praying
in the streets lying down on
20:14
premises to pray to in the
middle of this protest
20:16
movements. We've seen lots of
Palestinian Americans, but not
20:20
just Palestinian Americans.
There's been a significant chunk
20:23
of people here, who are young
people that must be said, a lot
20:26
of them have been under the age
of 30, I would say, and also
20:30
some Jewish groups as well who
are showing support for the
20:33
Palestinian cause. We've also
seen a couple of signs, say in
20:37
Latinos for Palestine as well.
So it really is quite a mixed
20:41
bag of people here, who has
showed up in Washington DC, the
20:45
messages that these people have
been carrying, you can see some
20:48
of them behind me are just as
mixed as the people themselves.
20:51
We've got everything from Free
Palestine, that has been the
20:54
main message of this movement to
more extreme signs as well. But
20:58
the main thing that people hear
a call calling for is a
21:01
ceasefire. Now we know that that
is something that Joe Biden and
21:05
President and Prime Minister
Netanyahu have so far not agreed
21:09
to.
21:10
Adam Curry: It's it's people
looking for ally ship. Whoa,
21:14
when they were busing them in
from Chicago, Chicago came in
21:19
busing them in from Chicago.
Yeah, that makes you wonder is
21:23
21 seconds
21:24
John C Dvorak: from the point
but busing in the ballots?
21:28
Adam Curry: Here's a protester
going nuts
21:43
Unknown: children
21:50
Adam Curry: man that the baby
stuff that that's really what
21:53
got people the and the ripping
babies from wombs, the beheading
21:58
babies, the burning babies,
using them as hockey pucks,
22:01
whatever you could make up.
22:03
John C Dvorak: That shame
bitching about the babies
22:06
blowing up babies.
22:07
Adam Curry: Yeah. Oh, yeah.
killing babies killing babies.
22:10
Babies. Babies always works.
22:15
John C Dvorak: Yeah, babies is a
winner.
22:18
Adam Curry: It doesn't matter
whether it's true or not. We're
22:20
gonna
22:20
John C Dvorak: marry some woman
go and see a baby around her go.
22:24
Oh, I love babies. Boom.
22:27
Adam Curry: Is that how you got
Mimi? No. No,
22:32
John C Dvorak: I'm just telling
you it works.
22:34
Adam Curry: That's the story for
another word for story for
22:36
another day. So um, yeah. So
what do you got? You have a lot
22:40
of
22:41
John C Dvorak: you want to go
back to the guy call his
22:43
dipshits. And then he bitched
about, found the letter? No, I
22:48
can't find it. I don't know why.
I thought I put it aside but I
22:52
was
22:53
Adam Curry: the one in response
to the newsletter is not the
22:56
one. Yeah,
22:57
John C Dvorak: because he didn't
like Hanson to Victor David
22:59
Hanson, which I put in there
too. It's an hour lecture and he
23:02
says war war war. You guys have
lost your touch is weird. We're
23:07
all for war. When the victor
David Hansen thing was not about
23:10
war. It was about mentalities.
And it had a bunch of
23:14
interesting insights. If you
could sit down and watch spend
23:19
an hour listening to him if you
can put up with him. I his
23:22
presentation is somewhat droll,
but I have one clip from the
23:29
Adam Curry: email here. Would
you like me to read it? Oh, yes,
23:31
please read dipshits have your
head so deep up your ass is on
23:37
ISRAEL PALESTINE. You literally
literally said this a Victor
23:41
Davis Hanson video and told I
said God, please look at what
23:46
you've become. This is a
straight hour of war propaganda.
23:52
Yeah. Well,
23:53
John C Dvorak: he obviously
didn't listen to this. No,
23:55
Adam Curry: he didn't because I
am definitely not a fan of
23:57
Victor Davis Hanson. But what he
explained is literally what I
24:02
just explained right now it is
the we have radicalized in
24:08
universities, certainly in the
United States, but probably
24:11
around the world, but without a
doubt, the higher education and
24:15
I saw that I saw this as my
stepdaughters. The programming
24:19
is so strong and it's been going
on for a long time. Oh,
24:23
John C Dvorak: yeah, it was
going on when I was at Cal
24:25
Berkeley. And I didn't I mean I
broke out of it obviously I'm
24:29
not to following that those
things anymore but I was
24:33
accidentally taught how to think
so I ended up breaking away from
24:37
but they were arguing the
Palestinians and and so this I
24:41
only have the one clip I could
have clipped a lot of the Hansen
24:44
thing but it's so and it's it
takes so much massaging because
24:48
he's he's talking like this.
Then he talks like this and he's
24:50
talking like it's up and down
and you got to go in and boost
24:53
it and drop it in a nightmare.
And he
24:56
Adam Curry: had all of the memes
in there. By the way. He had all
24:59
of the beheading babies and all
that stuff. And he, he was using
25:03
that, but beside that his
message about the universities
25:08
and how this group and the
previous group and from what
25:12
you're saying the group before
that have all been mind
25:16
controlled and it's part of the
anti colonialism. Like I'm an
25:21
American, but I'm a colonialist.
I'm bad, I'm white, I'm
25:24
horrible.
25:25
John C Dvorak: So he makes the
point there's the also the anti
25:28
he says the proportionality he
makes it, but this is not the
25:32
clip. I'm gonna play the clip
I'm gonna play as about Hamas.
25:36
But but he also talked about
something I thought was very
25:40
profound a way he pointed out
that Blinken and Biden are
25:44
telling the Jews to be careful,
be proportionate. unfortunate,
25:49
but Ukraine
25:51
Adam Curry: meanwhile, go ahead
kill him. Let's do as much
25:54
Russian Russians must die.
Here's some more cool new
25:57
weapons we got. What do you
drink? Your drink? You just open
26:01
your drink?
26:02
John C Dvorak: I did nothing.
26:03
Adam Curry: I thought I heard a
drink open. I'm sorry. Can you
26:05
guys
26:05
John C Dvorak: a train coming?
Maybe you're going to train Hong
26:08
Kong it sounds like a drink. So
so he points out he says the
26:13
only reason this could possibly
exist as destroying our attitude
26:17
toward Ukraine into one toward
Israel is Jew hate. The American
26:24
government hates Jews and or the
Democratic Party does somebody
26:29
does. And I think this this clip
I have here, which talks about
26:33
how do hate is really at the
basis for this, this whole thing
26:37
is not these got nothing to do
with anything else. And it's
26:41
extremely disappointing if any
of this is true, because it's
26:44
like kids, you know, we went
through the we had we were still
26:48
putting up with discussions
about the Holocaust. We thought
26:51
we'd get over that. And the Jews
are, you know, they would
26:53
they're obviously not running
the media or you wouldn't be
26:56
having this kind of discussion.
down the drain, they're
27:02
Adam Curry: not running it.
Well.
27:04
John C Dvorak: They're not doing
a very good job. So let's listen
27:07
to this analysis of of, and I'll
tell you the thesis and you can
27:12
kind of pick it out of here. But
the thesis is that Hamas was
27:16
becoming unpopular in Gaza until
they decided to start killing
27:20
Jews, the entire population all
the Palestinians and I believe
27:24
this could easily be true. The
Palestinians hate Jews. They
27:29
just hate him. And and I've said
on the previous show, the Jews
27:32
don't like the Arabs either. So
we have this. This cross. You
27:36
know, this Hatfield McCoy thing
going on? That
27:40
Adam Curry: is never for ever
since forever. You and I were on
27:44
the earth. 2000 years this has
been going on for ever.
27:50
John C Dvorak: Pants Here we go.
Hanson
27:51
Adam Curry: on Hamas i bar
that's the one.
27:54
Unknown: Yeah, yes, there are a
lot of innocent Gazans but the
27:57
1988 charter predated that
election and the charter, it
28:02
says that they're not interested
in negotiations. They're
28:06
interested in jihad to destroy
Israel, and they voted for it.
28:10
And yes, it is corrupt. And yes,
it's true. As a recent article,
28:15
I think this week in foreign
affairs pointed out that the
28:18
popularity of Hamas is declined.
But was the popularity of Hamas
28:24
declining because it was
corrupt? It didn't give services
28:30
or was it not sufficiently
killing Jews? My point is this
28:35
is that when they went in to
Israel, this unpopular
28:39
supposedly hated government,
which were told, if Israel bombs
28:44
Hamas sites in Gaza, you're
going to alienate them and make
28:47
them like Hamas, but they don't
like them. Now, if they don't
28:50
like them so much. Why did
hundreds follow through the hole
28:53
in the fence kind of like
irregulars that followed the
28:56
Gestapo and Eastern Europe? And
they tagged along to rape and to
29:00
loot and to take captives? And
why when they brought captives
29:04
in the streets of Gaza? Why
couldn't you just find one
29:07
Gasan, who intervened and said
don't desecrate that Israeli
29:11
corpse? Do not that poor woman
is bleeding from her genital
29:15
area do not spit at her, not
one, not one. And so the
29:20
argument that there's a captive
Gazan population that is furious
29:25
at Hamas, and you're only going
to drive them close to Hamas
29:28
when they otherwise would reject
them. I don't see any evidence
29:31
for I see a lot of evidence that
say, I like Hamas now because
29:35
they finally went out and did
something and that do something
29:38
is killing Jews on the offensive
and they were giddy about it.
29:42
And the people who support them
in the West, were giddy about
29:46
it. Again, it took them a
nanosecond to go yes, fly the
29:50
flag Jew killing Jews. Finally,
29:54
Adam Curry: perception is
reality and here he began he's
29:56
with the the genitals bleeding
from the genitals whichever We
30:00
don't know exactly what was
going on there. But that's
30:02
beside the point. But he is
responding to telegram videos.
30:07
Who knows? I mean, that's that's
the information war that I'm
30:11
talking about. So maybe they
were Yeah, well, maybe.
30:15
John C Dvorak: I think I think
reels point is a real
30:18
exclamation point was the fact
that once this happened, the
30:23
protests in the United States
cropped up immediately. Yeah,
30:26
with flags with pre printed
signs the whole thing across the
30:30
country, and they were all you
know, cheering
30:33
Adam Curry: we really missed out
on the no agenda shop with those
30:37
scarves. What an opportunity
missed.
30:41
John C Dvorak: scarves, what
30:42
Adam Curry: an opportunity,
those things the flight is
30:45
selling like hotcakes. But not
just America. And, you know, for
30:51
Germans, this is this is
polarizing. This is an you know,
30:56
and part of what's happening is
because of the millions millions
31:01
of illegal migrants they have
allowed to come into their
31:06
country. But when it starts
happening in Austria,
31:12
Unknown: Vienna central
cemetery, the second biggest in
31:15
Europe, a fire destroyed a room
in the Jewish part on a wall
31:19
close by anti semitic writing. A
shock for Austria, is
31:28
it's really a despicable act of
anti semitism towards the
31:31
disease is something outrageous.
31:33
The Newton
31:35
phyllanthus is today are very
worried many are afraid to be
31:39
recognized in the street.
31:41
As you'll notice as a council.
Since
31:44
the Hamas attack on Israel anti
semitic acts have multiplied in
31:47
Austria. Benjamin Nagler has
been recording such incidents
31:51
for four years, and he's noticed
a marked increase in 100. From
31:55
organizations we have recorded
and verified to 165x since the
32:00
seventh of October, that's four
times as many as during the same
32:04
period last year. We have
insults especially on the
32:07
internet, but also physical
attacks and harassment to fully
32:10
hardened tongues as a sign of
support. 1000s of people
32:14
gathered two days ago to
denounce anti semitism while
32:17
recalling the participation of
Austria in Nazi crimes, the
32:21
avant
32:21
eylea We all thought such things
would never happen again,
32:24
especially in Vienna. Because
Austria carries a high burden of
32:28
guilt, I should have seen how
many fans, we have a
32:31
responsibility that transfers
from generation to generation to
32:35
show that we learned from the
aura that was guilty and asked
32:38
him for a ban. In
32:39
the face of the threat Austria
has raised its terrorism alert
32:43
level and as increased
protection of Jewish
32:46
institutions. It's
32:48
Adam Curry: really unbelievable.
I grew up in these countries.
32:54
It's like no, we can never let
that how did that happen? This?
32:56
How was it possible? That, that
we all started to hate the Jews?
33:01
How was it possible?
33:02
John C Dvorak: We didn't
nothing. This hasn't changed as
33:04
always immigrants that they
brought in. It's almost like a
33:07
scheme colored the plan. And in
fact, the picture David Hanson
33:14
near the end of that lecture,
when he talks about the
33:16
universities, how they've been
used, served by the Green Card
33:22
kids who have been brought over
from the Middle East and you
33:25
know, let the loud to go nuts.
And it's about time and this has
33:30
to happen in a couple of
hearings in the I think it was
33:33
in the Senate about to my yoga
because he had one of his
33:38
employees. I don't have a clip
of that. I should have gotten a
33:40
clip of yarkas. Yeah, may York
has got one employee who went
33:44
off the deep end condemning
Jews.
33:48
Adam Curry: You don't have that
clip. What
33:51
John C Dvorak: I guess I should
have had that clip. That was
33:53
mistake. Anyway. A Holly's just
going after my crazy and he
33:59
won't fire the woman while she's
on administer, paid leave. And
34:06
it's but she's but you know,
she's another She's. She's not a
34:10
Towner. If you bring a bunch of
out of towners in here who hate
34:14
Jews, and then they hate Jews as
a result. Who's to blame?
34:20
Adam Curry: What's that? What's
Chuck Schumer's take on all
34:22
this? Where's he? House? I don't
see much of Chuck
34:27
John C Dvorak: Schumer is a
Democrat that he's probably
34:30
relies on votes from jus aiders
as my guest.
34:35
Adam Curry: By the way, I just
want to say people you can stop
34:38
with Albert, the Albert Pike
letter. Have you heard this? I
34:42
think we've probably dealt with
this before. No, Albert Pike
34:45
wrote a lot of letters. And
supposedly he wrote a letter
34:48
that said there'll be three
world wars and everything that's
34:51
happening now is that exact
letter. That letter I have not
34:55
been able to find if you can
find the so called three world
34:59
wars letter from Al word play,
please send it to me and show me
35:02
a good origin story because I
have not been able to find this
35:05
probably be I think it's
bullcrap. I think it is.
35:09
John C Dvorak: Whatever happened
to Nostradamus? Yes.
35:15
Adam Curry: He hasn't had
something right in a while
35:22
know the White House is they
have a national strategy. And
35:26
they're straddling.
35:28
John C Dvorak: It's like well,
Darren dig dig out issues
35:31
because yes, because they got
the squad who are all Jew haters
35:36
just call it what it is. They
are I mean, you don't make an
35:42
argue that and where they always
thought, No, we don't do just
35:47
hey, Israel and all Jews in
Israel should die.
35:50
Adam Curry: AOC is just dumb.
You just don't She's
35:53
John C Dvorak: dumb. It's
35:54
Adam Curry: all but I think the
true learnings comes from
36:00
America bad anti colonialism,
and that's just exported into
36:05
well, clearly, that's, you know,
clearly the Israeli state was
36:10
just a colonial move. And it's
the very people who that they
36:15
love United Nations did this. I
know literally did this
36:20
John C Dvorak: the joke of it
36:21
Adam Curry: ah, and part of it
was because of the last cycle of
36:25
jus hate, you know, I sorry
about the trains and everything.
36:29
Here's a country, here's a
country, and we'll call it the
36:34
we'll call it a day. So, you
know, but but the Ottoman Empire
36:42
is not even taught anymore. It's
just overlooked. And this and
36:48
I'm a little tired of it's a
genocide. It's almost like, you
36:52
know, certain terms have been
overused, like knots again,
36:56
John C Dvorak: like, hour long
lecture. Hanson has a very good
37:01
explanation for why this is a
bad term in these situations.
37:06
Adam Curry: Well, I mean, when
you when when we're told that,
37:08
you know, trying stopping
children from being medically
37:11
castrated without their parents
consent, is LGBTQ genocide,
37:16
these terms lose their meaning
they lose their meaning. That's
37:21
a
37:22
John C Dvorak: local phenomenon.
Yeah, it's not
37:25
Adam Curry: it's not vocal. It's
pretty local.
37:27
John C Dvorak: That is
everywhere.
37:29
Adam Curry: It's all over.
37:30
John C Dvorak: Genocide aspect
of the LGBTQ plus, plus, plus,
37:35
seems pretty localized to me.
I'm not seeing the kind of tick
37:38
tock videos coming out of
Argentina that are bitching and
37:42
moaning about it.
37:43
Adam Curry: I do have a tick
tock video thing about this,
37:46
this watch. Yeah, this is.
Again, it's TR T little
37:55
compilation they got from tick
tock, a very good looking Jewish
38:01
American girls. I
38:02
Unknown: was taught that Israel
were the victims and that these
38:05
Palestinian people were like,
almost like these annoying
38:07
people who would not leave them
alone. As I keep researching and
38:10
learning about what's happening
in Palestine right now.
38:16
This is a calling to all Jews
who
38:18
support Palestine, when did you
realize that the Zionist
38:23
mythology of Israel
38:25
was a lie? And why do so many
Jews support Israel despite it
38:29
committing war crimes against
Palestinians? And the truth is,
38:33
we're not fed accurate
information?
38:37
Because despite all these things
that are happening in Gaza, I've
38:39
not seen any footage of
Palestinian people, per se
38:42
Jewish people or Israeli people
seeing what is happening in
38:46
Palestine right now. And seeing
how these Palestinians literally
38:51
are thanking God as they're
losing everything, I wouldn't be
38:56
questioning my faith. If my
entire family just got wiped
39:00
off. I need to figure that out.
Because I'm intrigued.
39:03
Adam Curry: I mean, you've got
to question the algorithms that
39:05
these girls are trapped into at
this point. I'm research same
39:10
John C Dvorak: it doesn't even
have to be an algorithm. This is
39:12
the same mentality as Oh, yeah,
get into boxcar they did. What's
39:16
the worst that could happen?
39:23
Adam Curry: Well, Jesus, come
soon.
39:28
John C Dvorak: That ain't gonna
happen this world.
39:30
Adam Curry: No, no. If I may.
No, I don't actually but you
39:35
know, if you look at sermons on
the internet, oh my god. Ezekiel
39:41
3839 This is it. This is the
final one. Wait until Russia
39:45
gets involved. I mean, now now
there's a lot this is exporting
39:51
to all religions. Everybody's
freaking out. Everybody's
39:54
freaking out. I've heard literal
sermons. Oh, and, and then comes
39:58
the pike letter like what plake
letter yes in sermons in
40:03
sermons. So, you know
40:06
John C Dvorak: if they're
bringing in that superstition?
40:09
Yes.
40:10
Adam Curry: But, but that's also
on YouTube and Tik Tok, and that
40:14
it's not a good product this
internet is bring
40:18
John C Dvorak: this I've said
this from very early on. Yes,
40:21
that I have documented saying
that this thing should be shut
40:25
down. Yeah, well, that's not
going to happen, of course, but
40:28
it's too late now.
40:29
Adam Curry: But what always
amazes me is no agenda social. I
40:33
see the same thing without
algorithms, just because people
40:37
can argue I think
40:38
John C Dvorak: you're making the
point. That is not the
40:41
algorithms in this case. Yeah.
Yeah. No, I think it's not the
40:45
algorithms in any case. Okay.
40:47
Adam Curry: So it's just pure
mind controlled trauma, trauma,
40:51
traumatized people traumatized.
And then anything that has to do
40:56
with a dead baby, you're killing
of a baby's Oh, well, half of
41:00
these people protesting can't
have babies anymore. Give me a
41:03
break. Your break. There's
41:05
John C Dvorak: your irony. Yeah.
Okay, I'm looking at this pike
41:10
stuff.
41:12
Adam Curry: Don't bother. Don't
bother with the year. here's the
41:15
here's the buses from Chicago.
This this kind of irked me right
41:18
Unknown: now. 1000s from all
over the country are heading to
41:20
Washington DC for what's
expected to be the largest
41:23
demonstration since the start of
the Israel Hamas war, including
41:26
dozens who voted these buses
tonight in Chicago. Our trolley
41:30
tomorrow caught up with another
large group from our area making
41:33
the trip.
41:37
carrying flags signs and the
power of their collective
41:41
voices.
41:44
We have rights to be free. We
have rights to have our own
41:47
country, otherwise there'd be no
peace whatsoever.
41:51
In Bridgeview, two busloads of
Palestinian supporters boarded
41:55
for the roughly 12 hour drive to
DC. Downtown another two buses
42:02
also left for our nation's
capital for what's expected to
42:06
be the largest US Palestinian
solidarity march on Saturday.
42:11
We are not going to sit here and
silently allow for them to take
42:15
part and you know and supporting
Israel with this the war and
42:21
from talking to a number of
people who are aboard this bus
42:23
headed to Washington DC. They
are calling for a ceasefire and
42:27
at end of the United States
supporting the Israeli
42:30
government. We're frustrated
42:31
because our tax dollars are
going to fund this genocide.
42:35
On October 7, Hamas militants
attacked Israel, at least those
42:39
in Washington, DC people,
according to the Israeli
42:41
Government, totally murder, and
about 240 hostages were taken.
42:47
The United States and President
Biden have fully supported
42:50
Israel, and its right to defend
itself. Nice so far, more than
42:55
9000 Palestinians have been
killed. According to Gaza's
42:59
health ministry. This week,
President Biden called for
43:03
humanitarian pause, but not a
ceasefire.
43:06
For me. This is just another
another chapter in what it means
43:11
to be Palestinian.
43:14
To what we ought to Gaza, Gaza.
43:16
Adam Curry: There's a non
Palestinian American white girls
43:18
saying this is just another
chapter on what it is to be
43:21
Palestinian, fill in the blank
girl, black, gay, whatever,
43:26
whatever group, where are the
chants for the homeless? Where
43:30
are the chants for the 100,000
opioid deaths? Where are the
43:34
chants for the dirty, rat
infested cities that we're
43:38
living with? Where are the
chance for the potholes? Any
43:43
chance of anything?
43:45
John C Dvorak: The potholes are
getting so big there's homeless
43:48
living in them
43:54
Adam Curry: well, there's a
solution. Please something
43:57
that's something
43:59
John C Dvorak: Yeah, I got a
bunch of clips there. All right.
44:02
First of all, let's get this
well, let's do demos bailing
44:06
this me war damage bailing on
Israel one.
44:10
Adam Curry: Sec. Got it. Here.
44:14
Unknown: More Democrats are
voicing concerns about the way
44:17
the Israeli military is
approaching their objective to
44:19
wipe out Hamas after the
terrorist group launched an
44:22
attack on Israeli civilians.
Senator Chris Murphy, who sits
44:26
on a Middle East subcommittee
said in a statement, the current
44:29
rate of civilian death inside
Gaza is unacceptable and
44:32
unsustainable. I urge Israel to
immediately reconsider its
44:37
approach and shift to a more
deliberate and proportionate
44:41
counterterrorism campaign. Jason
crow has also expressed concerns
44:45
about an Israeli strike aimed at
taking out of Hamas military
44:49
leader. This mission killed
civilians in a highly populated
44:52
refugee camp, which Hamas had
dug tunnels under. And we asked
44:57
lawmakers how they feel about
their colleagues criticize I
45:00
think Israel's military
operations, we did get mixed
45:03
reactions. But the vast majority
of Democrats that we heard from
45:06
said that others should be more
thoughtful about the specific
45:09
details in this war, contrary
45:11
to the rules of war, they've
hidden behind the Palestinian
45:16
people. They've embedded
themselves in hospitals and
45:19
churches, in order to create an
inability of Israel to get at
45:25
their enemy, Hamas.
45:27
You know, Israel needs to be
careful, obviously, about, you
45:30
know, going after one commander
by taking out a whole building,
45:33
that's something they do have to
the they do have to look at. And
45:35
so I agree with Jason that that
one, you know, can be
45:38
problematic. But again, problem
that happens in war. That's why
45:41
this was this was, this was so
outrageous what Hamas did to
45:47
those innocent civilians in
Israel. When
45:49
Adam Curry: you're done with
your clips, I'd like I have a
45:51
short sequence about the rules
of war, because this is now
45:55
what's on Deck, the rules of
war, the proportionality of war,
46:00
all of a sudden, we have these
rules, that we didn't have these
46:04
rules for Ukraine, or Vietnam,
or for any other war, but now we
46:10
have rules. You can't be like
just killing people to see we
46:13
have rules.
46:16
John C Dvorak: Skip over to the
me war update one on PBS,
46:22
Unknown: the Israeli military.
This
46:24
John C Dvorak: is this is
update. This is from yesterday
46:27
afternoon. The Israeli
46:29
Unknown: military says it's
closing in on Gaza City ground
46:32
zero in the war to crush Hamas.
And tonight, America's top
46:35
diplomat is in the region trying
to ease the Palestinian civilian
46:39
suffering. UN officials warn of
malnutrition and starvation in
46:43
Gaza, saying the average
resident is surviving on just
46:46
two pieces of bread a day in
Washington, DC and other world
46:50
capitals including Berlin, Paris
and London. Pro Palestinian
46:53
marches and rallies called for
an immediate ceasefire. And late
46:57
today, Hamas said that more than
60 of the hostages its fighters
47:01
took during the October 7
assault on Israel are missing
47:04
after Israeli bombing, a claim
that could not be immediately
47:08
verified.
47:10
John C Dvorak: Yeah, so he's
sort of his bread is a meme as
47:15
Adam Curry: I'm for ceasefire,
too. I mean, you and I are both
47:17
very anti war. I mean, I'd stop
right away, just stop. That
47:22
would be great. But that's not
really what's going to happen.
47:24
That's not really what they're
calling for either.
47:29
John C Dvorak: Just a stop.
That's not gonna happen. No,
47:32
these guys are out of control.
And both sides and let's go to
47:37
part two of this clip. In the
47:38
Unknown: Gaza Strip, a United
Nations school near the northern
47:41
Jabalia refugee camp offered
little refuge to those within
47:46
airstrikes hit tents in the
school yard and an area where
47:50
women were baking bread. 18,000
people are sheltering that.
47:57
Where should I go to shelters?
Those who are on the street in
48:01
Gaza are hit while walking.
Since when is it become normal
48:05
to strike and shelters? This is
so unfair.
48:11
The UN refugee agency could not
verify the number of people
48:14
killed, but the Hamas run Gaza
health ministry put it at 15
48:21
John C Dvorak: Okay, now this
clip was weird to me. There were
48:26
and they showed visuals. This is
a crowded area with 18,000
48:31
people. And even Gaza Health
Ministry said there were 15
48:36
killed. Now how does that work?
I always
48:40
Adam Curry: love it sounds such
like such a dichotomy when you
48:43
hear the number of deaths
according to the health
48:46
ministry, somehow it just it's
ironic. It's very ironic,
48:51
John C Dvorak: but 18 dead out
of Eric jam. Did they show that
48:56
they show the visual here on
PBS? Yeah. It's a lot of people
49:00
and 18 were somehow what it was.
Somebody throw a hand grenade in
49:04
the crowd or, I mean, the
numbers don't add
49:07
Adam Curry: up. It's just
trauma. Just give people trauma.
49:11
Just show some dead people show
some people under rubble show
49:14
some babies as
49:15
John C Dvorak: well. By the way,
too, for the people that bitch
49:17
and moan about our analysis.
Because we're dipshits we want
49:22
to remind you it really irks me.
That's a term I like to use,
49:27
Adam Curry: I say.
49:29
John C Dvorak: But it reminds us
of the analysis we did and just
49:33
caught it immediately of the
people coughing up white goop
49:37
during the so called gases. The
Syrian gas attack. Yes, well,
49:41
this one is shaken and there
will under shaken and Oh, and
49:46
there and it turned out there
was nothing going on was phony.
49:49
The whole thing was was was
staged. But this put this number
49:54
18 They could have done better
than that. If you have 18,000
49:56
people jammed in an area and 18
get killed 50 That's Not from a
50:00
missile 15 They
50:01
Adam Curry: said 50 not even
1815 It
50:03
John C Dvorak: wasn't even eight
years 15 And they looked very
50:05
hungry because only two pieces
of bread a day only two pieces
50:08
of bread. There's this one, clip
three and then I have one more
50:16
meme to discuss.
50:20
Unknown: This boy says he
carried a decapitated body away
50:23
from the scene. Palestinians
also searched for survivors of
50:28
an airstrike on a residential
area in the southern city of
50:31
Han, Eunice and Asan. Via Zola.
50:35
We are steadfast in Gaza, even
if only one citizen is left.
50:40
From there, the state will start
again. As the
50:43
civilian death toll rises, the
Israeli military maintains it is
50:47
only targeting Hamas fighters.
The Israel Defense Forces
50:51
released new footage today
50:53
Adam Curry: I've got I've just
have to say that just listening
50:57
to this and in the previous clip
that I played, they are using it
51:02
and I can just I know what the
visuals are. They're just using
51:04
explosions to rock your mind
into thinking well that's bull
51:08
crap. When they say no, no,
we're not targeting civilians.
51:12
Boom explosion explosion. That's
that is programmatic mind
51:17
control right there.
51:19
Unknown: As the civilian death
toll rises, the Israeli military
51:22
maintains it is only targeting
Hamas fighters. The Israel
51:27
Defense Forces released new
footage today of what it said
51:30
were forces blowing up Hamas
tunnels and clearing access
51:34
routes for vehicles. In our man
Jordan, Secretary of State
51:39
Antony Blinken met with his
regional counterparts. They
51:43
urged him to push for an
immediate ceasefire. But Blinken
51:46
stopped short, reiterating his
call for humanitarian pauses.
51:52
pauses.
51:53
John C Dvorak: I want to mention
another thing in that last clip.
51:57
They show a kid who's 12 years
old if he's a day, and he's the
52:01
one who says I had to carry a
decapitated, not headless but
52:06
decapitated, which means it was
somebody chopped his head off.
52:09
Yeah. person and he was upset
about having to do this. Wait,
52:13
he's in an area of 18,000
people. Why is it 12 year old,
52:18
responsible for carrying the
decapitated person around and
52:23
we're off someplace else it
makes? Yes. It makes no sense.
52:28
These reports don't make sense
if you just listen to them.
52:31
Yeah,
52:32
Adam Curry: but it's trauma.
It's all trauma. Can we talk
52:35
about the here's the Oh, I'm
sorry. Go ahead. So
52:37
John C Dvorak: anyway, so here's
the other meme that's been going
52:39
around about the ambulance now.
52:42
Adam Curry: That's the ambulance
story.
52:44
John C Dvorak: So the ambulance
story, which is that then they
52:47
show the ambulance. The
ambulance looks like you ran
52:49
into something. The ambulance
wasn't hit by a missile. It I
52:54
don't know what happened to the
Samus but the story keeps going
52:56
around and here's the NTD
version of the ambulance story
53:00
Unknown: in the Israel Hamas war
and ambulance from the main
53:03
hospital in Gaza was struck.
Palestinian sources say it left
53:07
several people dead and TDs
Jason Perry has the details. And
53:11
a WARNING This report contains
footage that some viewers may
53:15
find disturbing.
53:16
On Friday, another deadly scene
shook the streets of Gaza City
53:20
has crowds of people were seeing
running in all directions. This
53:23
time an ambulance was struck. A
spokesperson for the Hamas run
53:27
health ministry blamed Israel
for heavy
53:31
we announced the world that this
convoy is heading to the south
53:34
at four o'clock, and we informed
the related parties including
53:38
the International Red Cross, and
we asked the Red Cross who
53:42
scored to convoy
53:44
But Israel Defense Forces did
not deny responsibility for
53:47
striking the ambulance. The IDF
released this statement on
53:50
telegram an IDF aircraft struck
an ambulance that was identified
53:55
by forces as being used by a
Hamas terrorist cell in close
53:59
proximity to their position in
the battle zone. A number of
54:03
Hamas terrorist operatives were
killed in the strike. We have
54:06
information which demonstrates
that Hamas is method of
54:09
operation is to transfer terror
operatives and weapons and
54:13
ambulances. The IDF also
emphasized that the area is a
54:17
battle zone, and civilians are
repeatedly called upon to
54:20
evacuate south for their own
safety. But even after the IDF
54:24
repeated warnings Palestinian
civilians still remain in the
54:28
area. Secretary of State Antony
Blinken flew to Israel on
54:32
Thursday to speak with Israeli
leadership about the issue of
54:35
civilian casualties. And he also
noted that Hamas uses civilians
54:40
as human shields.
54:43
Adam Curry: And if you if you
remember the Julian Assange
54:46
released video of our US
Gunship, not just shooting at
54:52
civilians from the air but then
blowing them up including
54:56
journalists. And then when the
ambulance arrived, they shot at
54:59
the ambulance
55:01
John C Dvorak: Yeah, this war is
55:03
Adam Curry: ugly business
55:04
John C Dvorak: and the guys are
yucking it up. Well,
55:07
Adam Curry: that's not that part
but it's ugly, ugly because I
55:10
have to see an inversion of this
report. Just listen to that.
55:14
Well,
55:14
Unknown: well if Israel is
admitting to have targeted an
55:16
ambulance inside Gaza near Al
Shifa Hospital, the Israeli
55:21
Defense Forces saying that they
this claiming that this
55:24
ambulance was being used by
Hamas, and saying that several
55:27
Hamas operatives were killed in
this strike, Wolf, but the
55:30
reports on the ground obviously
those images are just absolutely
55:35
difficult to see a 15 people
were killed in this strike. 50
55:40
others were wounded, according
to the Palestinian Ministry of
55:43
Health, which of course is
controlled by Hamas. Israel also
55:46
says in its claim of
responsibility that Hamas has
55:50
been known to use ambulances to
transport Hamas militants as
55:53
well as weaponry. But what if
there are questions about the
55:56
legitimacy of this target,
particularly as a spokesman for
56:00
the Palestinian Ministry of
Health says that this ambulance
56:03
was part of a convoy carrying
wounded individuals who are
56:06
heading to that Rafah crossing
in order to leave Gaza and head
56:09
into Egypt. And what's more
Wolf. They also say that they
56:12
notified the International Red
Cross of this convoy movement
56:15
before it left, the Red Cross
wolf tonight is confirming that
56:19
it did receive notification
about this convoy before this
56:23
convoy left, and that it
received a request to accompany
56:27
that convoy before it left.
56:30
Adam Curry: I got to play these
rules of war, this bolt, crow a
56:32
boy,
56:33
John C Dvorak: we got to talk
about these clips, that clip it
56:37
leaves a bunch of unanswered
questions, or does first of all,
56:41
what was the Red Cross doing
getting involved? And what did
56:44
they actually do? It should be
the Red Crescent, not the red,
56:47
the Red Crescent is is like an
adjunct of the rest has to be
56:53
related. But this is kind of
beside the point because this is
56:57
the this is like a press
releases. There's no information
57:01
whatsoever in here. No. Why is a
moss using the ambulances? Why
57:07
don't they just scatter around?
Because, you know, the thing
57:10
about Hamas is they you can't
tell Hamas because they look
57:13
like regular Palestinians.
There's no difference. They
57:15
don't wear uniforms. They don't.
There's nothing to identify
57:19
them. They might have guns, but
Palestinians could have guns. I
57:22
mean, this is this reporting on
this is a miserable it's
57:27
Adam Curry: a meme. It's a meme
that human shields is a mean,
57:30
human humans are very bad
shields. By the way. bullets go
57:33
through them. Now. There's
nothing that human shields is
57:36
dumb. It really is. Yeah, but
you're right. This is all memes.
57:41
It's babies decapitated human
shields. All of it is a meme and
57:46
it's all meant to trigger
people. It's not reporting. It's
57:51
just not reporting. Especially
not from CNN. Alright, so this
57:55
is NPR. Then now they're talking
to Tom Denham Baum. Tom
58:01
Tannenbaum is a professor of
international law. And a lot of
58:05
the questions I have about
international law are asked, and
58:08
to a degree answered in this
series of clips, what are the
58:11
rules of war? Can
58:13
Unknown: you briefly walk us
through? What are the key laws
58:16
that might apply to an incident
like this in a densely populated
58:20
urban area?
58:21
Yeah, there are a set of rules
that one has to comply with in
58:25
this kind of situation. The
first is the rule of
58:28
distinction, which means
targeting military objectives
58:32
and not civilians or civilian
objects. Second, the prohibition
58:35
on indiscriminate attacks, which
is to say that one has to have a
58:39
discreet military target,
58:41
John C Dvorak: but you're not
stuck right there. How does that
58:43
explain Dresden?
58:45
Adam Curry: Oh, it doesn't
explain. It is only when you
58:48
want to shame somebody that you
can pull out the international
58:51
rule of law. And we'll get to
what that is in a moment. But
58:56
it's, you know, this was never
used. I mean, we've never
59:01
adhered to international law,
look at Iraq. Look at the Gulf
59:07
War, the
59:07
John C Dvorak: fact that we
still have a base in Syria.
59:10
That's what I'd like to know.
What is that doing their?
59:16
Unknown: Second, the prohibition
on indiscriminate attacks, which
59:19
is to say, how does that work
for Nagasaki,
59:21
Adam Curry: Hiroshima, what was
that was that all under the
59:24
international rule of law,
59:26
Unknown: that one has to have a
discreet military target, not
59:30
target an area in which there
are military objectives, but
59:33
also civilian populations and
civilian objects. Further, one
59:38
has to take adequate
precautions, which is to say, do
59:41
everything feasible to minimize
the expected civilian loss of
59:45
life injury and damage to
civilian objects, and finally,
59:48
not to engage in the attack at
all. If the civilian loss of
59:52
life injury or damage to
civilian objects that would be
59:55
expected from the attack would
be excessive in relation to Due
1:00:00
to military advantage, that the
commander authorizing the attack
1:00:03
it anticipates from that attack,
yeah, blah, blah.
1:00:07
Adam Curry: So of course, we
need to not think for a moment
1:00:10
about the dance party. Now, I
think there were some civilians
1:00:14
who were killed or injured all
civilians. So let's get into
1:00:21
talking
1:00:21
John C Dvorak: about the Vegas
shooting.
1:00:24
Adam Curry: Now, I was talking
about the the dance party, the
1:00:27
rave. Anyway, let's move on who
makes these laws? This has been
1:00:30
one of my main questions, who
owns all these laws? Who makes
1:00:34
these laws? Oh, thank you for
asking me that. Finally, NPR.
1:00:37
Wow,
1:00:37
Unknown: these laws are codified
in various treaties, going back
1:00:42
to the Geneva Conventions and
updated in the additional
1:00:44
protocols to those conventions
in 1977. But also, they are
1:00:49
embedded in what's called
customary international law,
1:00:51
which is the practice of states
understood by those states to be
1:00:55
legally determined, which is
reflected in how states
1:00:58
articulate these rules in their
military Handbooks and Other
1:01:02
expressions of their
understanding of the law.
1:01:04
Adam Curry: Our military
handbook, this is where we have
1:01:06
to talk to jag on the field,
excuse me, is this Can I kind of
1:01:09
fires? Okay, it's illegal.
Alright, gonna do this.
1:01:12
Unknown: Yeah. And then the
follow up question, who enforces
1:01:14
these laws? Oh,
1:01:15
Adam Curry: good question. There
1:01:15
Unknown: are various ways that
can be enforced, they can be
1:01:17
enforced by domestic courts,
either within the states that is
1:01:21
engaged in a particular action
or indeed in any other state.
1:01:24
And additionally, in this
particular context, the
1:01:26
international criminal court has
jurisdiction over any war crimes
1:01:30
occurring,
1:01:32
Adam Curry: International
Criminal Court, okay. That's a
1:01:34
joke
1:01:35
Unknown: on the territory of
Gaza. And that includes in this
1:01:38
particular context, the crime of
engaging in a disproportionate
1:01:45
proportion, loss of life or
injury or damage to civilian
1:01:48
objects would be clearly
excessive in relation to the
1:01:51
military advantage anticipated.
1:01:53
Adam Curry: And you'll hear this
time and time again. It's like,
1:01:55
well, it's disproportionate.
That's not fair. War is war war
1:01:59
is the ugly Roar is horrible.
Oh, you're not doing war. Right.
1:02:05
Israel says,
1:02:06
Unknown: luckily have been
warning civilians to leave this
1:02:09
area. And nor this is
1:02:10
Adam Curry: another one of them.
Yeah, you know, hey, it's fair,
1:02:13
because we told him, We told
them we're gonna blow Yeah, we
1:02:16
told them. It's all it's fair.
It's okay. All right,
1:02:18
Unknown: gotcha. And Israel also
says, we have the right to
1:02:21
defend ourselves. From a legal
perspective, how much weight do
1:02:26
those defenses have?
1:02:27
The first thing to say is that
acting in self defense doesn't
1:02:31
justify acting without
constraint? The law of armed
1:02:35
conflict, including all of the
rules that I mentioned earlier,
1:02:38
apply as much to the actor
engaged in self defense as any
1:02:44
actor engaged in aggression.
Both are restrained by the same
1:02:48
set of the rules on the conduct
of hostilities. The second thing
1:02:51
to say is with respect to
warnings,
1:02:54
Adam Curry: so that's your
Victor David Hansen argument.
1:02:57
The, you know, well, you know,
you did Ukraine not send drones
1:03:02
to blow up buildings where
people lived in Moscow. I mean,
1:03:05
all of this is so hypocritical.
1:03:09
Unknown: The second thing to say
is with respect to warnings,
1:03:12
issuing warnings can be part of
the required precautions that I
1:03:17
mentioned taking all feasible
measures to minimize civilian
1:03:20
harm, that would be expected
from an attack. But complying
1:03:24
with the rule on precautions
does not itself relieve the duty
1:03:29
to comply with the other rules.
1:03:31
Adam Curry: Alright, so what
he's saying here is Israel is
1:03:34
right, because Israel went to
lunch ambulance.
1:03:40
Unknown: So they did good there,
but proportionality. I'm curious
1:03:44
for someone with your
background. As you followed news
1:03:47
of this incident, what are the
questions that springs to mind?
1:03:50
Well, the biggest question that
springs to mind is, what exactly
1:03:55
did they expect in terms of the
civilian casualties? They seem
1:04:00
to be very high for the
targeting of a single commander.
1:04:05
The second question is, who was
that specific commander? What
1:04:09
was the specific military
advantage anticipated from
1:04:12
taking that individual out? And
the third question that I think
1:04:16
is worth bearing in mind when
making the proportionality
1:04:19
calculation or make it you're
performing an analysis of
1:04:21
proportionality
1:04:22
Adam Curry: is universal
calculus, that would have been
1:04:24
better? Yeah,
1:04:25
Unknown: the same decision had
been made, where the civilians
1:04:29
that were harmed in this
particular context, Israeli
1:04:32
civilians, civilians are
protected as civilians
1:04:35
regardless of nationality
regardless of the party with
1:04:38
which they're associated.
1:04:40
Adam Curry: Okay, for those who
wonder that was Mary Louise
1:04:43
Kelly, who was asking the
questions Marie Louise, Marie
1:04:47
Louise. Ah, so I find it very
tiring that everyone has all
1:04:53
worked up. War is war. War is
ugly. War is crap. War is
1:04:57
horrible. John and I are anti
war always have been always
1:05:00
It'll be I don't like wars but
the the way people are getting
1:05:05
worked up about this one it is
by design.
1:05:08
John C Dvorak: Yeah being
controlling up is the word on up
1:05:11
is spun
1:05:12
Adam Curry: up is the term term.
I click custodian found an
1:05:18
interesting interview with Scott
Ritter which I think is worth
1:05:24
playing because something that
is lost amongst all this is how
1:05:27
how did the so called brilliant
Israeli defense allow this to
1:05:33
happen?
1:05:34
John C Dvorak: Oh, before we
play that, let me get my last
1:05:37
two clips out of the way for
sure. Because I think they'll
1:05:39
fit in Okay. These are my this
is the we have to since we are
1:05:44
dealing with memes we gotta get
we gotta get crypto into the
1:05:47
Adam Curry: act. Oh, yeah. The
finance by crypto. Yeah. Okay,
1:05:52
John C Dvorak: let me see. So I
have two clips here and I think
1:05:54
you'll be amused I'm sure I will
be at this. This is the the
1:05:59
overview. This is crypto one
overview. Ali
1:06:02
Unknown: Rogen tells us how
terrorist groups try to use
1:06:04
cryptocurrency to avoid banks
and launder money and how law
1:06:08
enforcement is responding.
1:06:10
Experts in terrorist financing
say the military wing of Hamas
1:06:13
was an early adopter of
cryptocurrency soliciting
1:06:16
Bitcoin donation starting in
2019. Hamas told supporters that
1:06:20
the transactions were anonymous,
but all cryptocurrency exchanges
1:06:24
are recorded on a public ledger
called a blockchain that allowed
1:06:28
the Department of Justice to
confiscate 150 Crypto accounts
1:06:32
associated with Hamas is all
Hassan brigades in 2020. In
1:06:36
April 2023, Hamas announced it
would stop Bitcoin fundraising
1:06:40
efforts, but as the Treasury
Department's new sanctions show,
1:06:44
terrorist groups, including
Hamas, al Qaeda and ISIS are
1:06:47
still finding ways to use
cryptocurrency exchanges to
1:06:51
raise and launder money and
evade detection. Oh, that's
1:06:54
Adam Curry: fantastic. By this
report, which is PBS, I guess.
1:07:01
By this logic, the majority of
the Democrat party and a large
1:07:07
share of the Republican Party
can be deemed to be terrorist as
1:07:11
they were taking literal crypto
currencies as donations from Sam
1:07:17
Backman fried.
1:07:18
John C Dvorak: I think they
should be arrested.
1:07:20
Adam Curry: I'm but we're going
to talk about that in a minute.
1:07:22
Let's play your anyway. So
1:07:23
John C Dvorak: the second half,
they bring an expert on who's
1:07:25
just run some crypto, you know,
forensics, crypto,
1:07:31
unfortunately, has a style of
speaking, which I found not
1:07:36
interesting. I'm
1:07:37
Unknown: joined now by Arie
redboard. He's the Global Head
1:07:40
of policy at TRM labs, a
blockchain analytics company
1:07:43
that helps protect organizations
against crypto related fraud and
1:07:46
financial crime. He's also a
former senior Treasury official,
1:07:50
and a former federal prosecutor.
Ari, thank you so much for
1:07:53
joining us. Thank you so much
for having me. What makes
1:07:55
cryptocurrency so attractive to
terrorist organizations? Ya
1:07:58
know, what do we know about the
mostess? Use of cryptocurrency
1:08:01
now, as has vs. Back in 2019,
when they started raising these
1:08:05
funds? Yeah, no, absolutely
1:08:07
Adam Curry: right.
1:08:07
Unknown: If any vulnerabilities
exist that Hamas might exploit
1:08:11
in the future?
1:08:12
Adam Curry: Yeah, no, look. No,
no, no. Very good. A little bit
1:08:23
of humor. Well, good. I'm gonna
take it around. We're gonna go
1:08:26
into into crypto and I'll bring
it right back to Hamas and
1:08:30
Israel. So as I just said, the
Democrats and Republicans both
1:08:37
but majority Democrats through
his mother's super PAC, this is
1:08:43
the worst part through his
mother's super PAC. We're taking
1:08:47
hundreds of millions of dollars
in donations in FTX token FTT a
1:08:54
literal cryptocurrency that was
as far as I'm concerned, stolen
1:08:59
money being laundered right into
political coffers. Yeah, and
1:09:04
that but that that's not the
story anymore. No, they've taken
1:09:08
this autistic young man who
clearly was abused by his
1:09:14
parents have this as my only my
opinion, I have no proof. But as
1:09:18
far as I can tell, including his
dad saying, Hey, Sam, what do
1:09:22
you what is this $250,000 salary
I'm getting I thought it was
1:09:25
gonna be 2 million abused by his
parents for political gain to
1:09:31
fund through I forget the name
of it, but it's you know, it's
1:09:35
well actually we'll we'll get to
what what kind of organization
1:09:38
that is but a super PAC that
helps fund political operatives,
1:09:44
but didn't No, no, that's not
what we're gonna do. The whole
1:09:47
government is complicit in
nailing this kids balls to the
1:09:50
wall. This stunning
1:09:52
Unknown: fall from grace for Sam
Venkman fried, the
1:09:55
cryptocurrency Golden Boy was
found guilty of stealing
1:09:58
billions of dollars of
customers. Money is one of the
1:10:01
biggest financial frauds in US
history. The jury reached his
1:10:05
decision in just five hours
putting an end to his month long
1:10:09
fraud and conspiracy trial is
1:10:11
a warning this case to every
single fraudster out there who
1:10:16
thinks that they're
1:10:16
John C Dvorak: untouchable,
1:10:18
Unknown: or that their crimes
are too complex for us to catch.
1:10:22
Adam Curry: They make this kid
sound like a mastermind. Look at
1:10:25
the transcripts of what they
discussed. The kid is an
1:10:28
autistic moron. He really is
he's, he has mental development
1:10:34
issues, whether
1:10:35
Unknown: they're too powerful
for us to prosecute, or that
1:10:38
they could try to talk their way
out of it
1:10:41
when they get caught. Those
folks would think again, and cut
1:10:45
it out. And if they
1:10:47
Adam Curry: cut it out, wow,
that's an Obama ism. I don't
1:10:50
know why that where that guy's
from it, cut it out
1:10:53
Unknown: and cut it out. And if
they don't, I promise we'll have
1:10:57
enough handcuffs for all of
them,
1:10:59
Adam Curry: except for the
parents, SBS are gonna
1:11:02
Unknown: get used to stealing
from the accounts of his FTX
1:11:05
clients, using customer deposits
to make investments purchase
1:11:09
real estate and repeat investors
of his hedge fund Alameda
1:11:12
research. When FTX collapsed in
November $8 billion in customer
1:11:17
funds were missing or vanished
into investments at Alameda bank
1:11:21
comm and freed defended the
money transactions between his
1:11:24
firms as permissible and claimed
he'd been unaware of the
1:11:27
financial hole until October
last year. Just a few weeks
1:11:30
before the bankruptcy. Good
former members of SBS inner
1:11:34
circle testified that he
instructed Alameda to raid his
1:11:38
customers deposits on FTX
virtually without limit, SBS
1:11:42
lawyer says he will continue to
fight the charges. The 31 year
1:11:46
old who is estimated to be worth
several billion dollars at the
1:11:49
height of his fame now faces up
to 110 years in prison, his
1:11:54
sentence will be delivered in
March.
1:11:56
Adam Curry: So I don't know if
they're ever going to look into
1:11:59
Alameda where all that money
went because that was the that's
1:12:03
the true vehicle that was used.
We'll see everyone else namely
1:12:07
John C Dvorak: guilty name has
been following this closely. And
1:12:10
she says that the government is
going after everybody. We'll see
1:12:15
because yeah, why yes, we will
see because she makes the
1:12:20
assertion that bank been freed
got a fast speedy trial, because
1:12:26
he kept insisting on it,
thinking that he would have a
1:12:30
wellspring of support from the
from his adoring public which
1:12:35
was kind of never happened. So
and then now that they got all
1:12:38
the emails between him and his
debt is mainly his dad I guess
1:12:42
his mom to who encouraged him to
do this and that it's just it's
1:12:46
really a if you're in that
office, and you're doing these
1:12:50
cases, I think you can have a
lot of fun with this. As long as
1:12:54
you don't take the money back
from the from the politicians
1:12:57
also
1:12:57
Adam Curry: making them gave it
back somewhat immediate. Oh,
1:13:00
yeah.
1:13:02
John C Dvorak: All those guys on
one hand,
1:13:05
Adam Curry: let's get the money
back. Well, there'll be the
1:13:07
smart ones if what Mimi is
following and finds is true, but
1:13:11
this has a term and the term and
this is all connected. All these
1:13:16
people are connected because it
was also Sequoia Capital. Mio
1:13:20
Andreessen. All of these guys
are all complicit in abusing
1:13:25
this this man, this young man
into stealing this money. Don't
1:13:31
worry, Sam, your pure genius.
Oh, he was playing games during
1:13:34
the pitch meeting. He's
brilliant. No know. He's, he's
1:13:39
an idiot. Yeah, it's like Bill
Gates, comb your hair. He's like
1:13:45
Bill Gates with his rocking back
and forth. And that is exactly
1:13:48
the type of person who was
involved in what this techno
1:13:52
douche, that France 24 is going
to explain to us and he's going
1:13:57
to connect it to some other
techno deuces. This is how we
1:14:01
connect Sam bank, Ben freed and
AI with the term Effective
1:14:07
Altruism.
1:14:08
Unknown: Joining me on the set
is our technology editor Peter
1:14:10
O'Brien hello to you. What can
you tell us about the surprising
1:14:14
links between these two events?
SBF and the UK is AI Summit.
1:14:20
What do they have in common?
1:14:21
Yeah, I was wondering how we
could link these things
1:14:22
together. And actually, there's
there's a simple way to do it.
1:14:25
You may not have heard of it.
But it's the social movements
1:14:28
called Effective Altruism. It's
often filled and it's
1:14:31
increasingly powerful. Now that
power took a hit when sandbank
1:14:35
when freed, the most high
profile effective Ultras and one
1:14:38
of the movements biggest donors
fell from grace. But at least as
1:14:43
we've seen from the AI summit in
Bletchley Park this week, we can
1:14:47
see that effective Ultras
talking points are still making
1:14:50
their way up the policy agenda,
and one in particular the
1:14:53
potential for artificial
intelligence to cause
1:14:56
catastrophic harm or risk that
would not be on the policy table
1:14:59
at So we're not for the work of
effective our interests. Now, I
1:15:03
should add a disclaimer here
that I've been briefly involved
1:15:06
in the movement in France. To
some charities that are popular
1:15:09
among effective altruists. Now
he's
1:15:11
Adam Curry: never going to
mention them. But what he's
1:15:13
saying is Effective Altruism,
people donate a lot of money for
1:15:18
the good of humanity for the
good cause, because we care
1:15:22
about the world. That's what Sam
bank when fried, really should
1:15:26
be accused of doing. Thanks to
the egging on of his parents, he
1:15:30
was literally giving it to his
mother for Effective Altruism,
1:15:33
which does a lot of really good
things, including this whole AI
1:15:37
scam. How
1:15:38
Unknown: did we get to the point
where Effective Altruism is
1:15:41
producing one of the biggest
frauds in history, it's also
1:15:44
becoming a major policy debate.
So
1:15:47
Adam Curry: policy is code for
politics, the only
1:15:49
Unknown: way to really explain
this is to take you back for the
1:15:51
intellectual history of the
movement. So the founding
1:15:55
factor, altruism is simple, and
it's persuasive. In order to do
1:15:59
the most good with your time and
money. You shouldn't just think
1:16:03
about your close circle of
friends and family, you
1:16:06
shouldn't just think about your
community, your country, you
1:16:08
should really be taking into
consideration all humans in the
1:16:11
world because we're all will
suffer in a similar way.
1:16:15
Adam Curry: If Trump's president
we all suffer in a similar way.
1:16:18
A classic example of
1:16:19
Unknown: putting this into
practice would be rather than
1:16:20
donating money to your local
fire station,
1:16:23
Adam Curry: no, don't do that.
Don't don't donate local No,
1:16:27
come on France douche. Well,
1:16:29
Unknown: we'll be using the same
amount of by Miss much more
1:16:31
mosquito nets to protect people.
But rather than just caring
1:16:36
about humans, effective
altruists quickly realized that
1:16:39
the same principle should be
applied to anything that can
1:16:41
suffer, right? So that could
write an animal that could be a
1:16:44
wild animal that way, a human
not alive today, a future human
1:16:51
but in the future. So that's
where we get to this situation
1:16:54
where there are lots of
effective artists today who are
1:16:56
also long term lists. That means
people who are considered wild
1:17:00
animals that don't yet exist,
but could exist in the future.
1:17:04
So this is
1:17:05
Adam Curry: this is the oh my
1:17:06
John C Dvorak: god, this I'm
getting, you're getting clipping
1:17:08
today for this thank you piece
of shit.
1:17:14
Adam Curry: So long term is
that's the whole idea is we're
1:17:18
concerned about the human of the
future, who isn't born today.
1:17:22
Therefore, we need to support
policy that behooves the human
1:17:27
of the future, which happens to
also kind of be beneficial to
1:17:31
our companies. And oh,
incidentally, that's exactly
1:17:36
what's going on with this AI
stuff. Now, I'm gonna bring this
1:17:39
back to Israel and Hamas, with
Scott Ritter, controversial guy.
1:17:45
But I think he does have an
inside track. This one was mind
1:17:50
boggling. As he explains that it
was really AI that failed Israel
1:17:57
with this attack from Hamas,
1:17:59
Unknown: let's say that you
know, you have a mole inside.
1:18:04
Now what happens if I go take
that mole, put them outside,
1:18:07
blow his head off and send a
photograph to the Israelis, they
1:18:10
now know that they don't have a
mole. So you know, so there's,
1:18:14
it's better to feed them
disinfo. So what you do is you
1:18:16
say, All right, we're assuming
there's a mole here. We're going
1:18:20
to compartmentalize here. They
also know that unit at 200. This
1:18:24
is a second unit that listens to
every phone call. What happens
1:18:27
if you're talking, talking
talking to you and I are
1:18:29
talking, talking, talking also,
I'm gonna go somebody's
1:18:31
listening our phone, and we
don't talk anymore on that
1:18:33
phone. They're gonna say, they
know that we're listening to
1:18:37
them. So what Hamas does is they
create a communication support
1:18:40
plan where they just say, here's
the script, guys just keep
1:18:43
talking. And they're talking
talking talk, and you did a to
1:18:45
hundreds go on. Are we
collecting data? We're getting a
1:18:48
large stream of data. What are
we doing that we're shooting it
1:18:50
into the AI computer that's
reading it up and the computer
1:18:54
is coming back going? normal,
normal, normal, normal, normal.
1:18:57
Meanwhile, losses run landlines
under the ground running using
1:19:01
couriers, handwritten pieces of
paper. And they're doing all
1:19:04
this communication and who's not
listening to it. Hamas knows
1:19:08
that they're doing the opposite.
What's the best way to hide? if
1:19:12
again, if I'm doing something
secret? I know the enemy is
1:19:15
looking for? Because it's an AI?
It's aI guys. They're looking
1:19:19
for detect change. They're
looking for something that's
1:19:21
going to trigger an AI report.
How do you defeat that by doing
1:19:25
it right in the open? And that's
what Hamas did they build a
1:19:29
combat city. That is exactly
like one of the companies they
1:19:33
were going after. And then they
would sit there and run the
1:19:36
drills over and over and over
again. And the Israelis would go
1:19:39
and they looked at it just Hamas
training that became normal
1:19:44
under a normal normal, normal
normal. Now
1:19:47
Adam Curry: whether it was fed
into AI or not the the concept
1:19:50
of what he's saying is a good
one. And I remember seeing
1:19:54
videos of paragliders from the
West Bank in Gaza. American
1:20:01
paragliders even people were
paragliding all over the place,
1:20:04
which would kind of play into
what he says here,
1:20:07
Unknown: paragliding, I was like
how the hell did they get that I
1:20:10
thought they had to send guys
off to vacations around the
1:20:12
world to Cancun, Mexico. And in
practice, they were doing it
1:20:16
right there, right in the open
practicing a normal, normal,
1:20:19
normal normal AI. Now, had they
not had the AI? Had they had
1:20:24
because here's the thing that
happened. These girls were
1:20:26
talking about these these these
observation girl tick talkers.
1:20:30
Yeah, they're sitting there, and
they're looking at it all.
1:20:32
They're sitting there going holy
shit to training. And they're
1:20:35
writing the report to detect
some training, really concerned
1:20:38
about the strain. And the report
goes up the chain. And the chain
1:20:41
looks and says, What does AI
say? normal, normal, normal,
1:20:44
normal, normal. Do this girl's
looking, hey, they're running
1:20:49
drills. They're there. They're
bringing the vehicles by closer,
1:20:52
they're doing a simulated
attack. They're bringing looks
1:20:54
like explosives to the fence and
then going back and they read it
1:20:58
up. What's the computer say?
normal, normal, normal, normal
1:21:01
normal. So the collection was
taking place. And at the lowest
1:21:04
level, they were doing the job
they were supposed to do. They
1:21:07
were reporting issues of concern
up the chain of command. Even
1:21:11
the mid level managers if they
ever got through them. And they
1:21:15
said, Okay, I'm going to bump
this up to the top because it
1:21:17
did. What people need to
understand is the night before
1:21:22
the Hamas attack, the head of
Israeli intelligence, the
1:21:25
general staff, everybody met
because there was somebody in
1:21:30
the Israeli intelligence
business, who said, guys, this
1:21:33
is bad, something's happened,
they're getting ready to come
1:21:36
over the border. You know, we
need to raise the hype. It's Yom
1:21:40
Kippur war, we need to cancel
all leaves, we need to have all
1:21:43
the commanders come back here.
We need to, you know, get the
1:21:47
guards out. We need to get the
girls armed, we need to get the
1:21:50
girls that don't have weapons
out of this. We need to do what
1:21:53
we need to do to protect you.
They're coming over the border
1:21:55
today, guys.
1:21:57
Adam Curry: Now forget the AI
part. And that banging is in
1:21:59
pretending they hit a keyboard.
This rings kind of true that
1:22:03
that they were doing this
practicing drill over and over
1:22:06
and over again. And
1:22:08
John C Dvorak: then when so it's
got nothing to do with AI now.
1:22:11
But let's just leave it for what
it is simple analysis, you'd
1:22:14
come to the same conclusion.
Then
1:22:15
Adam Curry: here's the final
clip.
1:22:16
John C Dvorak: Somebody wrote,
wait, wait, what is he just
1:22:20
slamming AI? For me? It's like
a, it's like purposeful, and
1:22:25
it's in this meaningless.
1:22:26
Adam Curry: Let's see if the
third clip gives us any clues.
1:22:29
Unknown: So they all gathered
together. All the senior guys.
1:22:32
And they went, what? What do you
guys think? Mr. What's the
1:22:36
computer tell us? So normal. But
this is serious stuff. In Egypt
1:22:42
either apparently Shouldn't we
shouldn't be raised the alert
1:22:44
level yet. But that's Yom Kippur
war, that would be political, in
1:22:47
venues already in trouble
because you know, he's trying to
1:22:50
rewrite basic law about the
judiciary, people are
1:22:52
protesting. And now if we screw
up their Yom Kippur war, there's
1:22:55
going to be a problem here. And
then they you know, then they
1:22:58
said, the big one was the
strategic thinker said, Hamas
1:23:02
would never do this. You see,
because Hamas is bought into our
1:23:06
plan. We're trying to turn them
into a governing organization.
1:23:10
We had 20,000 work permits that
we're using to bribe the Gazans,
1:23:14
their life is getting good.
They're making money Hamas would
1:23:18
never throw away what the
Israelis have given them out of
1:23:21
the kindness of their hearts and
attack us. So the conception is
1:23:25
Hamas would never do it. Just
regard this information. They
1:23:28
said, We'll This is honestly
God's truth. Right. They said
1:23:32
we'll meet in the morning to
discuss this. So the morning
1:23:37
they were supposed to get on
they certainly did. They
1:23:39
certainly did meet discuss but
it was already happened. It was
1:23:42
too late. And this is one of the
greatest intelligence failures
1:23:46
in the world. So
1:23:48
Adam Curry: I think the
purposeful ai ai bullcrap is
1:23:51
just because he's a he's a guy
that likes Cuban intelligence
1:23:56
military, old school and a sick
of all the AI crap maybe. But
1:24:01
But this story is particularly
this last two clips that rings
1:24:05
true. That's the best
explanation I've heard so far.
1:24:14
John C Dvorak: Yeah, and there
is some discussion of the number
1:24:16
of Palestinians that are working
in Israel. There's lots of them.
1:24:21
And with but
1:24:23
Adam Curry: that's, that's rare.
1:24:24
John C Dvorak: I mean, it's pi
b, you know, well, erring on the
1:24:28
side of not caution. It seemed
to be the blunder here. But if
1:24:34
he didn't have cameras on the
wall, I mean, that bulldozer
1:24:37
comes over and nobody notices
has been the whole thing. It's
1:24:40
still somewhat suspect. They
have cameras looking at the wall
1:24:47
when the bulldozers came over.
Yeah,
1:24:51
Adam Curry: I don't know. This
seemed like a resource
1:24:53
allocation issue. Doesn't really
matter. anymore. It doesn't
1:25:01
really matter and gone is the
whole deal the fact that people
1:25:06
hated K Bibi Netanyahu like to
hate Trump is the same hysteria
1:25:18
John C Dvorak: meanwhile, yes,
well there's a there's a woke
1:25:20
element in Israel,
1:25:23
Adam Curry: but you have to
shoot No, it's true. It's the
1:25:25
exact same as
1:25:26
John C Dvorak: major. If and I
hate to use that term, and stop
1:25:32
Adam Curry: using those terms,
1:25:33
John C Dvorak: I don't know why
I can't. I'm helpless, limited
1:25:38
vocabulary I'm helpless.
1:25:43
Adam Curry: Meanwhile, see
happens meanwhile CNM perhaps
1:25:48
also by design, with their new
overlords have finally picked up
1:25:53
on what we discussed about the
Time magazine article regarding
1:25:58
the Lenski the corruption, the
total failure of of the spring
1:26:06
offensive, which didn't even
start in the spring. And they
1:26:09
even do a mini mini cut of the
term stalemate. This was
1:26:14
surprising
1:26:15
Unknown: the months of a counter
offensive to wrest territory
1:26:18
from Russia. New reporting from
Time magazine reveals that while
1:26:22
Ukrainian president Solinsky is
still deeply committed to the
1:26:25
fight, some of his advisors are
worried one of Zelinsky aides
1:26:29
telling time he deludes himself,
we're out of options. We're not
1:26:33
winning, but try telling him
that. And that sobering
1:26:37
assessment extends beyond the
civilian government, Ukraine's
1:26:41
commander in chief for the armed
forces saying this to The
1:26:44
Economist, just like in the
First World War, we've reached
1:26:48
the level of technology that
puts us into a stalemate, there
1:26:52
will likely be no deep and
beautiful breakthrough, a
1:26:56
stalemate which has not, which
was not the characterization
1:27:00
over the last several months
maybe
1:27:02
already acknowledged that
they're not going as far as fast
1:27:05
as they would like that said,
they are moving. Not a
1:27:10
stalemate. They're not just
frozen. The Ukrainians are
1:27:14
moving,
1:27:14
we do not assess that. The
conflict is a stalemate. We are
1:27:18
seeing it continue to take
territory. On a methodical,
1:27:24
systematic basis. We've
1:27:26
seen good progress in the
counter offensive, very hard. We
1:27:31
want to make sure that Ukraine
has what it needs not only to
1:27:34
succeed on the counter
offensive, but it has what it
1:27:36
needs for the long term.
1:27:39
And the reality on the
battlefield. Well, we can show
1:27:41
you those silver slivers of
yellow are Ukraine's counter
1:27:45
offensive gains, and it really
isn't a whole lot. Now the
1:27:50
ground in Ukraine is a hard
thing now for another long
1:27:53
winter and the fight in the
United States over how much aid
1:27:56
to give it is getting more
intense Congress has authorized
1:28:00
roughly $113 billion so far, but
polls suggested the American
1:28:05
people's willingness to support
Ukraine is waning. The yellow
1:28:09
line here shows the share of
Americans who say that the US is
1:28:13
doing too much to help Ukraine.
And now it's at 41%, up from 29%
1:28:19
in June. And that's raising some
tough questions for the Biden
1:28:22
administration, and for both
parties in Congress. So
1:28:26
Adam Curry: right on cue back
after we had volva and the other
1:28:31
DJs from Russia, hoax Maloney
into saying, Yeah, you know,
1:28:35
everybody in Europe, pretty
tired of this. We're all getting
1:28:38
we're all looking for a way out.
NBC reporting, US and European
1:28:44
officials broach the topic of
peace negotiations with Ukraine
1:28:48
sources say the conversations
have included very broad
1:28:52
outlines of what Ukraine might
need to give up to reach a deal
1:28:56
with Russia. Now, as they have
consistently said, the
1:29:01
politicians and there's a lot of
sources say in this article,
1:29:05
it's up to Ukraine. That's not
for us to say it's up to
1:29:09
Ukraine. So putting our creative
or I consulting hats on, we've
1:29:15
got a we've got to eliminate
Zelinsky and put someone else in
1:29:18
there who's going to say this is
what we want, and it's got to be
1:29:20
a new message. This time, yeah,
1:29:25
John C Dvorak: he's got to go.
1:29:26
Adam Curry: Then it may not be
pretty for him. But he's got to
1:29:29
go. Because he wants you know,
he wants Crimea back.
1:29:33
John C Dvorak: Yeah, that's not
happening.
1:29:36
Adam Curry: It's not happening.
So his time just may be up.
1:29:42
John C Dvorak: Well, it's not
being helped by this clip. Which
1:29:46
she's back Queen Ursula is back
in Ukraine. The
1:29:49
Unknown: Queen and then a
surprise visit to Kyiv European
1:29:52
Commission president Ursula van
der Leyen met with President
1:29:55
Volodymyr Zelensky to discuss
Ukraine's path to join the
1:29:58
European Union. She praised
Alinsky for making excellent
1:30:02
progress and pursuing judicial
and anti corruption reforms
1:30:05
while fighting its war with
Russia, granting your grain EU
1:30:08
membership would signal
continued international support
1:30:11
for the nation. Oh,
1:30:12
Adam Curry: man, someone sent
her over there. Hey, we got
1:30:15
trouble here. We got some
trouble. You clearly can't keep
1:30:18
it together there. You've got to
go as a representative of
1:30:21
Europe, which he's not. You
gotta go as a representative of
1:30:25
Europe and let everyone know is
everything's good. It's all
1:30:27
good. She's still there.
1:30:31
John C Dvorak: I don't know how
long she was there. This was
1:30:33
yesterday.
1:30:33
Adam Curry: I love the reports
that France 24 has from Ukraine
1:30:37
from key leave. Where there's
people just shopping in the
1:30:42
background, they got blue
scooters, you know, like, you
1:30:45
know,
1:30:45
John C Dvorak: there's just
like, nothing's going on. Here.
1:30:48
The rental scooters.
1:30:50
Adam Curry: It'd be like the
what is it? What are those
1:30:52
scooters called? I forget what
they're called.
1:30:55
John C Dvorak: You know, the
cold a blight.
1:30:57
Adam Curry: Yeah. The Scourge,
the scourge? Just I don't know
1:31:01
who operates the blue scooters.
And so it's like, what are we
1:31:07
talking about here? And it but
he's he he has to be someone
1:31:13
else has to step up step in.
There has to be some kind of
1:31:16
coup. Then there'll be I'm sure.
You know, some Russian friendly
1:31:21
government. Everything Oh, calm
down. No European Union
1:31:25
membership, no NATO membership.
But it has to be a shocker. You
1:31:31
know, and it's something has to
happen where so Biden and the
1:31:35
politicians every will get it?
Look, we got enough. We were
1:31:38
working on Iran. It's everyone's
sick and tired of it. The
1:31:42
military industrial complex is
already moving on. How do we
1:31:45
draw Iran into this thing was,
you know, we got Israel is
1:31:48
great. We've replaced we've
replaced 24 billion with
1:31:52
100,000,000,004 bagger we're
good to go. Get rid of this.
1:31:56
This guy's annoying to us. He's
not helping. was not working. We
1:32:02
have to have a an event is what
I'm thinking. Black a boom, a
1:32:09
big event?
1:32:11
John C Dvorak: Will an
assassination of Zelinsky is
1:32:13
always possible. It would be
better to YES to avi, you can't
1:32:18
do it. It's got to be something
you're having a heart attack.
1:32:24
Really, honestly, he's under a
lot of pressure.
1:32:28
Adam Curry: Yeah, but it would
have to be on the on the world
1:32:31
stage, you know, so we can all
see it.
1:32:36
John C Dvorak: Yeah, that's
probably it has to be at least
1:32:40
some part of the stage of the
pericarp doesn't have to be a
1:32:43
big massive event. Bring the
precursor, you know, giving a
1:32:46
speech at the UN. Now it has to
be something where he's being
1:32:52
filmed, but it's like just goes
down, you know, kind of goes
1:32:56
down like Biden does when he's
tripping over stuff.
1:33:00
Adam Curry: Then we had the
leader of Hezbollah, as we've
1:33:06
learned how to say it,
Hezbollah, Hezbollah, and he
1:33:11
made his speech. And I have an
observation about this.
1:33:14
Unknown: Crowds gathered across
the region to watch the address
1:33:18
highly anticipated by Hezbollah
supporters but also by the
1:33:21
international community, hoping
for insight on whether the
1:33:25
Israel Hamas war could expand.
The militant groups leader
1:33:29
Hassan Nasrallah first said that
neither Tehran nor his Iran
1:33:33
backed group had anything to do
with Hamas is attack on Israel,
1:33:37
but then went on to say all
options were on the table
1:33:41
concerning fighting on the
Lebanese Israeli border. Fear
1:33:45
that it could escalate or turn
into a full scale war. fronts
1:33:49
could lead to a wider war is a
realistic possibility.
1:33:53
In southern Lebanon has gone
supporters to come as well as
1:33:57
speech as gospel, many saying
they would support a war if it
1:34:01
came to it.
1:34:05
If things continue to evolve,
this situation will be very
1:34:09
dangerous. When he said is
enough for us. We'll be totally
1:34:13
ready.
1:34:17
We tell our adversaries that we
want peace,
1:34:20
not war. That's what we want.
But if there is war, we'll go
1:34:25
all the way.
1:34:28
Hezbollah has taken calculated
steps to keep the Israeli army
1:34:31
preoccupied on the Lebanese
border, but not to the extent of
1:34:35
igniting an all out war. rockets
fired on Thursday night hit this
1:34:40
town in northern Israel,
injuring two people in damaging
1:34:43
buildings. The cross border
skirmishes have led to deaths on
1:34:47
both sides, civilians as well as
fighters and soldiers. The war
1:34:52
with the militant group would be
devastating for both Israel and
1:34:55
Lebanon. Hezbollah is much
stronger than Hamas with an
1:34:58
arsenal of some honey Didn't
50,000 rockets and missiles. And
1:35:03
during the inconclusive month
long war that Israel fought with
1:35:06
the group in 2006 swathes of
Lebanon were reduced to rubble
1:35:11
Adam Curry: da the rebels
strategy verbalisation Hansen
1:35:14
John C Dvorak: had a commentary
about this too, in his hour long
1:35:17
lecture. Yes, he says that Iran
in particular in Lebanon even
1:35:24
more so. And if you listen to
other reports, where they talked
1:35:27
to Lebanese, they said, you
know, we don't need this
1:35:29
aggravation. We're already damn
near a useless country. I
1:35:32
haven't got any leadership, no
economy, government for all
1:35:35
practical purposes. And Hanson
said that there's these little
1:35:41
skirmishes, especially the ones
that were out in the middle of
1:35:44
nowhere in Syria, to our bases
like the base we have in Syria
1:35:48
for some unknown reason. And the
base I guess, there's a base in
1:35:51
Iraq or two when they're
shooting stuff. And his thought
1:35:55
was that this is just to make
the Arabs happy that they're
1:35:59
doing something Oh, no, we, we
took we didn't do nothing.
1:36:04
Adam Curry: Here was the
observation from one of our
1:36:05
producers. This was a video
telecast, whether it was pre
1:36:10
recorded or live is unclear. And
if you look at the setting, once
1:36:16
our producer I forget who said
this to me, but once our
1:36:18
producer said this and like oh,
wow. I went Oh, wow.
1:36:22
John C Dvorak: Oh, wow. are out.
1:36:24
Unknown: Groovy, groovy baby.
1:36:27
Adam Curry: He was sitting on a
Herman Miller chair. What kind
1:36:31
of leader sits in a nondescript
room on our Herman Miller chair,
1:36:39
which by the way our US
government uses.
1:36:43
John C Dvorak: A lot of people
use
1:36:46
Adam Curry: these guys, they
like thrones, they like gilded
1:36:49
rooms. I thought that was
interesting and interesting. It
1:36:53
John C Dvorak: is interesting. I
1:36:55
Adam Curry: don't know if it's,
it may it may mean, it may mean
1:36:57
nothing. But you don't know. So
we want to draw Iran in on that
1:37:02
side. Now, let's just suppose
that the Lensky has an event
1:37:07
died suddenly. And we still need
to engage Russia. How can we can
1:37:12
we draw Russia into this
somehow? Can we? Can we bring
1:37:16
Russia? I
1:37:17
John C Dvorak: don't think we
want to you think we want to?
1:37:20
Well, we want to we don't need
that aggravation.
1:37:22
Adam Curry: Let's see what the
US intel suggests.
1:37:25
Unknown: I'm struck by the
convergence of so many
1:37:27
complicating factors. And
another one happened yesterday
1:37:30
your reporting, suggesting Syria
as agreed to send a Russian
1:37:33
missile system to Hezbollah,
what do we know here?
1:37:36
Yeah, this is a potentially
extremely complicating factor
1:37:39
here. So
1:37:39
Syrian President Bashar Al
Assad, we are told, has agreed
1:37:43
to provide Hezbollah, the
Lebanese militant organization
1:37:46
with a Russian air defense
system. And it is apparently
1:37:50
going to be delivered by the
Wagner group, which is that
1:37:53
Russian mercenary organization
connected because they all
1:37:56
really operate inside Syria. So
Hezbollah is backed by Iran,
1:38:00
Iran supports Assad, Russia also
supports Assad. And all of this
1:38:05
is coming together, of course,
at a very, very delicate moment
1:38:09
when it when there are serious
concerns across the US
1:38:11
government that Hezbollah could
join the conflict on that
1:38:14
northern border with Israel. So
having a missile defense system
1:38:17
that has been delivered by
Wagner potentially we don't know
1:38:20
yet if it has been delivered, or
the status of that, that could
1:38:23
really, you know, intensify this
conflict in a way that the
1:38:27
administration has been urging
the Iranians and Hezbollah and
1:38:30
other Iranian proxy groups not
to do so it is definitely a
1:38:33
concern, but it just shows just
how many actors there are who
1:38:37
could potentially join this
conflict and make it even worse.
1:38:40
Adam Curry: I call that a trial
balloon. Someone's trying little
1:38:43
strategy out, see if it catches.
That's a weird one. Oh, yeah.
1:38:48
Oh, no, they look rushes in on
this.
1:38:51
John C Dvorak: It could be bull
crap.
1:38:53
Adam Curry: But it probably is.
But that's not the point. The
1:38:58
point is, what can the military
industrial complex to do once we
1:39:02
shut down the Ukraine situation?
1:39:05
John C Dvorak: Well, maybe they
don't. Nobody likes the idea of
1:39:07
us trying to set Iran up so we
can go in there now before it
1:39:11
gets too late. possible
possible. I mean, that might not
1:39:15
be a bad thing. No,
1:39:16
Adam Curry: it's all possible.
Yeah. It's amazing. The world is
1:39:24
an amazing place. Well, I
1:39:26
John C Dvorak: have a couple
more clips on which which about
1:39:29
tunnel warfare, which is kind of
part of this battle that's going
1:39:32
on.
1:39:35
Adam Curry: PBS
1:39:37
John C Dvorak: tunnel warfare,
yep, PBS. Here's all actually I
1:39:40
believe this is NPR. I just put
PBS by accident.
1:39:44
Adam Curry: No, what you're
really saying is
1:39:46
Unknown: elitist voices of
America. This is NPR or pbs.
1:39:53
Here's the bottom line when it
comes to fighting an enemy
1:39:55
hiding in a labyrinth of
tunnels. You don't want to send
1:39:59
your troops there. If
1:40:00
it's very dark and it's
claustrophobic and it's narrow
1:40:03
and you lose your sense of
direction scary in the tunnel
1:40:07
immediately you lose a bunch of
time
1:40:11
John C Dvorak: well that's
exactly what she's saying her
1:40:13
whole read to her as the expert
that's all she basically says
1:40:17
it's scary summarize the two
clips right there. I'm sorry.
1:40:20
Let's listen Marian the
1:40:21
Adam Curry: tunnel scary in the
tunnels
1:40:23
Unknown: your sense of direction
immediately you lose complete
1:40:26
sense of time. Definite
1:40:28
reach mon Barak is an Israeli
military analyst and the author
1:40:32
of underground warfare. The
Israeli military has taken her
1:40:36
into Hamas tunnels that crossed
from Gaza into southern Israel.
1:40:40
They are humid and suffocating
and they are incredibly scary.
1:40:46
So when you're in that skirt be
disoriented for sure, but also
1:40:50
incredibly afraid.
1:40:52
Hamas says it has 300 miles of
tunnels a subterranean complex
1:40:57
that according to Israel
includes military headquarters
1:41:00
sleeping quarters as well as
workshops to make and store
1:41:04
rockets. Like Sands is workshop
underground passageways criss
1:41:08
cross Gaza they're designed to
allow Hamas fighters use
1:41:12
equipment for
1:41:12
John C Dvorak: a second it
reminds me of something if you
1:41:15
recall the beginning of the
Afghan war I wish I still had
1:41:19
some of these documents because
they were printed into all the
1:41:22
news magazines had them they
made the claim that they that
1:41:26
the Afghan he's had this huge
underground complex smoke them
1:41:31
out. And but it was more than
that, because they showed images
1:41:35
there were there were like giant
garages where they worked on
1:41:39
trucks. It was all this
different stuff. It was like you
1:41:42
know, factories underground is
what she's describing, or
1:41:47
somebody has described where
they're having barracks and all
1:41:49
this other shit all underground,
doubting this
1:41:54
Adam Curry: what we have we ever
all ever see is videos of the
1:41:57
opening. Like you know, though,
they're all narrow, very narrow
1:42:02
opening, and then I've never
seen a workshop or the sleeping
1:42:06
quarters I've seen
1:42:07
John C Dvorak: no, this is
remind somebody is who's ever
1:42:09
writing these scripts used to
write for Hogan's Heroes, a
1:42:13
Unknown: subterranean complex
that, according to Israel,
1:42:16
includes military headquarters
sleeping quarters, as well as
1:42:20
workshops to make and store
rockets, underground passageways
1:42:24
criss crossed Gaza. They're
designed to allow Hamas fighters
1:42:28
to quickly surface and strike
Israeli troops without warning
1:42:32
pop up. Hamas has been shoveling
for a long time. Chuck Freilich,
1:42:36
remember, the tunnels were part
of the Israeli discussions. When
1:42:40
he was deputy national security
adviser in the early 2000s. He
1:42:44
sees the expansion of the
tunnels as part of Israel's
1:42:47
broader intelligence failure in
underestimating Hamas. And
1:42:51
you don't believe that the enemy
can do X, and so you don't see
1:42:55
it. And then in retrospect, it
always turns out that there's
1:42:57
lots of information in the
system but people smart people
1:43:01
ignored it.
1:43:01
Adam Curry: Meanwhile, the true
enemy of the American people,
1:43:04
the US government have actual
tunnels and workshops, and
1:43:08
maglev trains in Colorado,
connecting all kinds of huge
1:43:13
hangars with all kinds of stuff.
That's the truth. So what we're
1:43:17
doing we're projecting that when
McDonald's in there, Robert F.
1:43:21
Kennedy Jr. himself. Well,
1:43:22
John C Dvorak: you know, we the
North America has this is not an
1:43:25
unusual situation. Underneath
the town of Toronto, is it
1:43:29
labyrinth of tunnels where they
have stores, department stores,
1:43:33
the same thing with Montreal,
there's a lot of tunnels and in
1:43:36
the wintertime to hold
everything that's above ground
1:43:39
because it goes underground. And
I'm in Edmonton, Ontario. I'm
1:43:43
sorry, Edmonton, Alberta, even
has an underground tunnel
1:43:46
system. I've been in the Toronto
system. I've been in the
1:43:50
Edmonton system, and you could
be in there for days. Well,
1:43:55
that's and there's actually a
McDonald's not you mentioned it
1:43:58
in the Toronto system, it leads
to one of the hotels to get to
1:44:03
the adjacent set of tunnels. You
have to go to the McDonald's.
1:44:09
And then you have to go to a
door that's by the bathrooms and
1:44:13
open that door and they're just
another set of tunnels
1:44:16
Adam Curry: and your end to get
out you have to Exit Through The
1:44:18
Gift Shop. Please buy some
merch.
1:44:22
John C Dvorak: Fascinating I'll
1:44:23
Unknown: bet it is with Israeli
ground troops now deep inside
1:44:26
Gaza the tunnels are becoming a
key factor in the fighting. The
1:44:30
Israeli military recently said
its ground forces were near
1:44:33
Gaza's northern border when they
spotted Hamas fighters emerging
1:44:37
from a tunnel. The Israeli
troops fired on them killing or
1:44:40
wounding the Hamas members, the
military said without
1:44:43
elaborating, Israel faces
another big challenge because
1:44:47
the moss is believed to be
holding more than 200 hostages
1:44:51
underground. Again, Chuck
Freilich,
1:44:54
I think there's all sorts of
fancy technology being used to
1:44:57
try and map them out but we may
not know everything and there's
1:45:01
somebody and some booby trap
awaiting you at every turn. And
1:45:05
of course, the attributes are
probably down there somewhere.
1:45:08
In a recent military briefing,
Israel said Hamas has
1:45:11
constructed military
headquarters directly beneath
1:45:14
Gaza is largest hospital all
shifa Rear Admiral Daniel hood
1:45:18
Gauri is Israel's military
spokesman for
1:45:21
mass terrorists operate inside
and under Shifa Hospital, and
1:45:24
other hospitals in Gaza with
network of terror tunnels Hamas
1:45:29
vehemently denies. Israel makes
these accusations to excuse a
1:45:34
relentless bombing campaign
that's already killed. 1000s of
1:45:37
Palestinian civilians and human
rights groups say the existence
1:45:42
of Hamas tunnels does not
justify Israeli airstrikes when
1:45:46
large numbers of civilians are
present. Her Gauri argues that
1:45:50
it is Hamas that cynically
putting civilians at risk
1:46:00
Adam Curry: is that clip two?
That was clip two. Yes. Yeah.
1:46:04
Meanwhile, the city of Chicago
is heating up, but not literally
1:46:08
because it's 24 degrees and
snowing. It's not great if
1:46:12
you're a migrant, sleeping on
the street, illegal migrant, I'm
1:46:15
sorry, asylum seeker, sleeping
on the street, awaiting
1:46:19
something from the Chicago
government or the Illinois
1:46:23
government. And the residents of
Chicago are very perturbed to
1:46:27
say the least perturbed about
the tents being set up and them
1:46:33
not being asked if, if this
could all just take place. And
1:46:37
so a special session was called
by several Aldermen. The way it
1:46:42
works in Chicago, you have these
wards, and then nation, man.
1:46:48
Chicago is a fantastic place the
way that's run. And and the
1:46:53
residents who are the most
pissed off are the African
1:46:56
American ie black Americans who
were like, whoa, whoa, whoa,
1:46:59
whoa, hold on a second. What did
you didn't ask us what's going
1:47:03
on here? This is this is getting
out of control. to
1:47:06
Unknown: adjourn or not to
adjourn. The lights went out
1:47:08
while some city council members
claimed the meeting wasn't
1:47:11
officially over. It was the end
to a chaotic special meeting
1:47:14
that centered around the migrant
crisis
1:47:17
Chicago has yet to say we can't
take anymore. We have to draw
1:47:24
the line somewhere.
1:47:26
And that's what's been kind of
frustrating about this quote
1:47:28
unquote debate is that people
who are attacking the sanctuary
1:47:30
city ordinance don't know what
they're talking about. It has
1:47:33
nothing to do with refugee
resettlement has nothing to do
1:47:36
with the current crisis.
Alderman
1:47:37
Anthony Biel, Ray Lopez and
others called the special
1:47:40
meeting to discuss and vote on a
non binding referendum that
1:47:44
would let voters decide if
Chicago should remain as a
1:47:48
sanctuary city.
1:47:49
All I'm asking is that we give
the people of this great city of
1:47:53
Chicago a chance to have a voice
on this issue. Alderman
1:47:59
Carlos Ramirez Rosa says the
sanctuary city ordinance only
1:48:02
refers to law enforcement and
government officials not
1:48:05
cooperating with ice. Mayor
Brandon Johnson City Council
1:48:08
Florida leader says providing
resources to migrants is about
1:48:12
the city's values. It's not
written in the ordinance,
1:48:15
Ramirez Rosa claimed the meeting
violated state law. He tried to
1:48:18
stop it by sending out a group
text telling orders not to show
1:48:22
up so there wouldn't be enough
for a quorum, but I'm leaving
1:48:25
because right now I have
potholes. She's getting him and
1:48:28
I have a host of other things.
Our residents and a six year old
1:48:32
want me to deal with
1:48:33
Alderman William Hall and many
of the mayor's strongest
1:48:35
supporters did not show However,
after two tries there wasn't
1:48:39
formed in the meeting started.
But it never came to a vote
1:48:42
because of confusion and debate
over the rules or mirrors Rossa
1:48:46
claiming one thing in vielen
Lopez claiming another
1:48:49
and they were so worried about
losing and putting this question
1:48:52
before the voters that they were
willing to bend every rule in
1:48:55
the book to get out of here as
quickly as possible and how
1:48:58
the meeting legally ended is up
for debate as well. Ramirez Rosa
1:49:02
says it was adjourned and the
sanctuary city issue will not be
1:49:06
taken up. But Bill and Lopez say
the meeting was in recess and it
1:49:10
will continue on Tuesday
morning.
1:49:14
Adam Curry: Didn't really want
to hear what the citizens of
1:49:16
Chicago felt about it knew that
would be annoying to learn.
1:49:25
John C Dvorak: Yes, this is a
huge mess for these towns.
1:49:27
Cities. Chicago is no exception.
That'd be dead people in the
1:49:31
streets.
1:49:32
Adam Curry: But no chance for
that. No bus rides. Hey, you're
1:49:36
in Chicago. Yeah. Let me go to
DC. Yes, chance about something
1:49:41
else. We're moving into the
winter even here in Texas
1:49:46
getting pretty cool. You out. Is
your weather warm? You have
1:49:48
season and you have global
warming there, don't you?
1:49:52
John C Dvorak: Yeah, we have
convenient global warming after
1:49:55
the coldest summer in the
history of the state. Yeah. Now
1:49:58
it's like 70 I think it's 72
days, it's kind of we got a
1:50:02
storm coming in. So it'd be we
might we may get some rain,
1:50:05
maybe like, you know, a 10th of
an inch
1:50:07
Adam Curry: has been pretty cold
here. We've dipped below
1:50:09
freezing couple of times during
the night. But anyway, it's flu
1:50:14
season, and it would appear that
people's immunity has been
1:50:20
weakened. I can't imagine what
it was that weaken their
1:50:22
immunity, but has happened. And
there's a few clips we need to
1:50:26
discuss here
1:50:27
Unknown: who figures out this
morning show the infant
1:50:29
mortality rate in the US rose
last year for the first time in
1:50:33
decades. Doctors say one factor
is so called maternity care
1:50:37
deserts where there's a lack of
services for pregnant women.
1:50:40
They say another factor is the
new limits on access to
1:50:43
abortion, resulting in the
continuation of
1:50:45
more pregnancies. Can you
believe
1:50:48
John C Dvorak: you believe
that's an ironic way
1:50:50
Adam Curry: of doing it? Because
you can't abort your child.
1:50:53
They're dying. What is going on?
Well, Dr. Drew Lee
1:50:57
John C Dvorak: mentioned that
vaccination unnecessary
1:50:59
vaccinations. Now,
1:51:01
Adam Curry: this is where the
Dr. Drew clips clip comes in.
1:51:04
Oh, Dr. Drew, who has changed
his tune, because he was very
1:51:08
pro Vax. In the beginning, yeah,
he was a maniac. And once he
1:51:12
started to see the data, and I
think that you and I both agree,
1:51:15
he's a data driven guy. And he's
he's pretty level headed, wasn't
1:51:20
looking now. But once he got the
data, he started turning around
1:51:24
and saying, Well, you know, this
is not right. There's some stuff
1:51:26
that's wrong here. And he's also
very skeptical of certainly the
1:51:30
efficacy but of the perhaps
danger of the COVID vaccination,
1:51:36
then the damage may be done. So
in the UK, and this is Ed Dowd.
1:51:41
He's the former Blackrock fund
manager, he wrote a book about
1:51:45
and he's on the insurance
company side. So he saw the data
1:51:50
the insurance companies have
seen and they're going, Whoa,
1:51:53
we've got excess deaths we got
we got some problem with
1:51:56
especially children, there's a
problem that more more children
1:51:59
are dying. He's focusing on the
United Kingdom. So he has this
1:52:02
discussion with Dr. Drew. And
here is no doubt about excess
1:52:07
mortality in the UK amongst
children. Do
1:52:11
Unknown: you I understand have
some new data for us as well.
1:52:14
What's going on on the on your
data front here?
1:52:18
Yeah, so we're starting to
update 2023 numbers with as of
1:52:23
June, we started off in the UK,
we're going to be following up
1:52:27
with other countries. But just
Just so we're clear, the 2023
1:52:32
numbers, I talk about our
annualized estimates based off a
1:52:36
linear model, given the data we
have as of June. And one thing
1:52:40
we discovered that was quite
worrisome was something that
1:52:43
actually talked about in my book
as a smoking gun. Children in
1:52:47
the UK, were not vaccinated till
later in 2021. And their excess
1:52:52
deaths are actually going down
because of lockdowns and school
1:52:55
closures, which makes sense
because the biggest cause of
1:52:58
death and one through 14 age
group is accidental. Well, we
1:53:02
saw them that their excess
deaths are starting to rise with
1:53:04
the introduction of the
vaccines. Now the 23 numbers are
1:53:08
coming in and it's gone from the
numbers are let me just slip 16%
1:53:13
in 2022 and 22% in 2023. And in
2021, was actually minus 7%.
1:53:19
excess deaths. So obviously, I
am of the camp, it's the
1:53:24
vaccine. So we're seeing a rise
in excess deaths in the age
1:53:27
group one through 14, post the
implementation of the vaccine.
1:53:31
We haven't put this out yet, but
we've run some correlations.
1:53:34
Again, correlations aren't
causation, but it's a point nine
1:53:37
four fit on the model 94%
correlation to the vaccine. Does
1:53:42
that mean
1:53:43
correlation? What?
1:53:46
John C Dvorak: Coincidence? Oh,
no, Cohen's a correlation is not
1:53:50
causation, but we have 94%.
1:53:54
Adam Curry: And he'll address
the elephant in the room in a
1:53:56
moment on
1:53:57
Unknown: the model. So 94%
correlation to the vaccine
1:54:00
rollout
1:54:00
in terms of that point, nine
three correlation. I'd love to
1:54:03
know a how you arrived at that.
And be I'm seeing lots more data
1:54:09
coming in. That is suggesting
COVID may be the culprit for the
1:54:14
excess deaths. What do you do
with that data?
1:54:17
If COVID was the cause of this
rise in ages one through 14 Why
1:54:22
didn't appear in 2020 and 2021
and only started post
1:54:26
vaccination that these questions
need to be asked. They need to
1:54:30
be investigated, but the numbers
that I reported in my book have
1:54:33
gotten worse since since since
my book unfortunately. So
1:54:40
Adam Curry: correlation not
causation, but looks pretty
1:54:44
pretty grim. Looks pretty grim.
In the UK, but I'm sure that's
1:54:48
just because you know, there's
no access to abortion. So kids
1:54:52
are dying.
1:54:54
John C Dvorak: That's it and
global warming.
1:54:56
Adam Curry: And then here's just
no random Dr. Dr. William MCIS.
1:55:00
He was just reporting on what
what the good doctor is seeing
1:55:03
there
1:55:04
Unknown: are only a handful out
of the 100,000 doctors, Canadian
1:55:07
doctors that didn't take the
vaccine that are still
1:55:10
practicing medicine. So it's
something like 99.9% vaccination
1:55:14
rate, and they were the first
ones to line up for their
1:55:16
vaccines. Well, as I started
looking at the sudden deaths of
1:55:20
Canadian doctors, I realized,
yes, most of them are dying from
1:55:24
cardiac issues, heart injuries,
cardiac arrests, you know, dying
1:55:28
while jogging or swimming, dying
in their sleep. And Dr. Peter
1:55:31
McCullough has talked about this
extensively about the
1:55:34
myocarditis and the damage to
the heart discouraging to the
1:55:37
heart, and then some are dying
from blood clots, pulmonary
1:55:40
embolize strokes. But then there
was a quite a large subset of
1:55:44
doctors who are developing
extremely aggressive cancers,
1:55:47
and cancers and an age that they
shouldn't be getting. So for
1:55:51
example, there was a doctor who
developed gastric cancer in his
1:55:54
30s, presented at stage four, he
was dead in less than a year,
1:55:58
very rare brain cancers in young
individuals in their 20s and
1:56:01
30s. Medical students, medical
residents, and these cancers
1:56:05
would always present at stage
four, and they would always kill
1:56:08
them in a matter of a few
months. And it was always less
1:56:10
than a year. And you know, at
first I didn't know you know,
1:56:14
what the term for this was or
what the phenomenon was, I just
1:56:16
started, you know, really paying
attention to it, tracking it, I
1:56:19
then, you know, realize that
this is being called turbo
1:56:22
cancer by people on social
media, that turbo cancer is not
1:56:26
a medical term, but it's a term
that people came up with to
1:56:29
really describe the extremely
aggressive nature of these
1:56:33
cancers in the COVID vaccinated
and these cancers behave
1:56:36
completely differently, unlike
anything I've seen before in my
1:56:39
career, and I've diagnosed over
20,000 cancer patients in my
1:56:43
career with cutting edge PET CT,
positron emission tomography,
1:56:46
imaging, CT, MRI, pathological
correlation. I've never seen
1:56:51
anything like this. I've never
seen stage four breast cancers
1:56:54
presenting and women in their
20s I've never seen stage four
1:56:58
colon cancers presenting in men
and women in their 20s 30s
1:57:04
leukemias that will kill you in
a matter of days or even hours
1:57:07
after diagnosis. lymphomas that
again kill you in a matter of
1:57:12
months. Happy
1:57:14
Adam Curry: days are here again.
This is bad. This cancer
1:57:20
John C Dvorak: well once this
this is not something that's
1:57:23
ending anytime soon. No, wait.
So I fear for the future of
1:57:29
Pfizer.
1:57:30
Adam Curry: Oh, Pfizer is done.
They're done. And this is
1:57:34
John C Dvorak: John. This is a
John's Mansfield. I've said it
1:57:37
before. On the show. John's
medicine is a situation where it
1:57:40
could take the company out of
the picture Borla
1:57:47
Adam Curry: Borla the CEO was on
CNBC with Jim Cramer mad money
1:57:53
because what is it isn't their
stock down like some like 30 or
1:57:56
40%? Haven't they just
1:57:57
John C Dvorak: tanked? It's it
hasn't tanked per se but it's
1:58:01
way down. Do you want to hear
these clips from Yeah, I love
1:58:04
listening to Cramer. Okay.
1:58:06
Adam Curry: Because whatever
Cramer says do the opposite and
1:58:09
you'll be golden. Cramer says
buy you should sell. So here he
1:58:13
is with Albert Bula. I'm talking
about you know the troubles that
1:58:16
Pfizer is having with you know,
with the latest vaccine, I mean,
1:58:20
what's going on here, Albert,
but there is some
1:58:22
Unknown: sort of vaccine fatigue
in this country right now that I
1:58:26
think affecting your earnings.
1:58:29
Adam Curry: You think you're
right,
1:58:31
Unknown: but it's mainly in the
COVID area because our RSV has
1:58:35
done tremendously better than
what we thought
1:58:39
Adam Curry: RSV, we know that
that's a lie, because our
1:58:43
insurance companies won't pay
for it and it's 1000 bucks a
1:58:46
shot. So he's lying about these
numbers, or
1:58:50
Unknown: you will get a vaccine
is doing tremendously better
1:58:53
than what we thought and the
analysts thought. And of course,
1:58:56
the flu vaccinations are doing
trending quite well. We don't
1:58:59
know, but we know how they are.
1:59:01
Adam Curry: I love them. And you
know, the flu vaccinations are
1:59:03
trending quite well. We don't
have a flu, but the vaccinations
1:59:06
are trending quite well. We told
them released the flow, and they
1:59:10
didn't do it.
1:59:10
Unknown: And of course, the flu
vaccinations are doing trending,
1:59:13
right well, we don't have a flu,
but we know how they are
1:59:15
trending. So there is a little
bit of COVID Why saying it gets
1:59:20
better, which reflects on the
number of COVID vaccinations
1:59:23
that we get also, don't forget
the team they go with vaccines
1:59:26
came a little bit late.
1:59:28
Adam Curry: We had a pipeline
problem. They came too late
1:59:31
Unknown: in the season right in
the middle of September,
1:59:34
approximately. We had all
August, quite a wave of COVID.
1:59:38
So a lot of people got COVID and
they can't do a vaccine before
1:59:41
four months after they had gone.
1:59:44
Adam Curry: So we missed it.
1:59:45
John C Dvorak: We missed the
damage. They missed a node in
1:59:49
the cycle. Yeah, we missed
1:59:50
Adam Curry: it. We missed it by
months when there was an August
1:59:53
we should have had the VAX then
we missed it. We missed it.
1:59:57
Well, let's keep going here.
Come on, Jim. So I'm
2:00:00
interesting,
2:00:00
Unknown: but is it working? I
mean, I know that when I go, I
2:00:04
feel like right now I went and I
got my, my my flu and I got my
2:00:09
Pfizer COVID
2:00:11
Adam Curry: Jim Cramer's, a dead
man. And I felt wrapped by the
2:00:13
way, he didn't say he got the
shots. He just got his flu in
2:00:16
his COVID I went in to get some
flu and COVID Like,
2:00:19
Unknown: right now I went and I
got my, my, my flu and I got my
2:00:24
Pfizer COVID
2:00:25
Adam Curry: exactly your Pfizer?
COVID? Yes. And I felt rather,
2:00:29
pioneers,
2:00:30
Unknown: I felt that I'm alone.
Now I know others are doing, but
2:00:34
I'm trying to I'm struggling.
Why doesn't everybody do this?
2:00:37
And what is the resistance?
Because
2:00:40
Adam Curry: why doesn't
everybody do what I do have Jim
2:00:42
Cramer, we
2:00:44
Unknown: thought in the
beginning of the year, so we
2:00:45
thought that we will have 24% of
the Americans. And that was our
2:00:49
projection. We're doing a COVID
vaccine this year. So far, it
2:00:53
looks like it's trending more
towards 17%. And so far, maybe
2:00:57
seven 8% have done it. But the
months ahead of us are, are very
2:01:02
strong. So there are many
reasons why it's lower. And we
2:01:07
are far away from the COVID
fear. So everybody will get the
2:01:11
vaccine. Now we are in the
middle of the COVID fatigue.
2:01:14
We're
2:01:14
Adam Curry: in the middle of the
COVID Fat t we need to make more
2:01:17
fear or fear.
2:01:18
Unknown: Nobody wants to speak
about COVID. And we have also a
2:01:21
lot of anti vaxxers rhetorical
the big Oh,
2:01:23
Adam Curry: there you go. We're
responsible for the stock price
2:01:26
drop the anti vaxxers.
2:01:27
Unknown: The good news is that
2:01:29
John C Dvorak: his rhetoric the
way he said it has to read
2:01:31
rhetoric now.
2:01:33
Unknown: He wants to speak about
COVID. And we have also a lot of
2:01:35
anti vaxxers rhetorical the big,
but the good news is that those
2:01:39
are they are doing a vaccine
right now are those that they
2:01:41
truly believe in the value of
vaccinations. But so that's a
2:01:44
very base assumption for what
their vaccination rates will be
2:01:48
as a floor going forward.
2:01:50
Adam Curry: Well, okay, then
maybe you need to do some more
2:01:52
marketing, how's the marketing,
there's
2:01:53
Unknown: something that occurred
that is fortuitous. And I'm not
2:01:56
trying to make light of it. But
you picked a spokesperson,
2:01:59
Travis Kelce, perhaps because of
his association with Taylor
2:02:03
Swift, maybe the most famous
athlete in the world right now.
2:02:07
And you also as an antagonist, a
fellow by the name of Aaron
2:02:10
Rodgers, who called in Mr.
Pfizer in order to mock him, but
2:02:15
the fact is, sir, isn't that the
kind of awareness that you need
2:02:19
in order to be able to build
prescriptions, build vaccines,
2:02:23
and make people realize the
power of your portfolio?
2:02:26
I think
2:02:31
prescribe vaccines and then get
people to realize the power of
2:02:35
your portfolio.
2:02:37
I think he's and he's a
wonderful spokesperson for us
2:02:40
and we are very proud that we
are associating our name with
2:02:43
him. Oh,
2:02:44
Adam Curry: yeah, well, the
marketing is up. No, because
2:02:46
ozempic is outspending you Novo
Nordisk has spent $600 million
2:02:51
in the American market alone.
That was not within the first
2:02:55
nine months they are they are
out marketing you on all fronts.
2:02:59
No one wants to talk about your
crap on the morning shows. We
2:03:02
want to talk about losing weight
with a shortcut. Anyway, great
2:03:06
your transition Dr. Rola.
2:03:07
Unknown: Welcome back to Mad
Money. In fine, how are you sir?
2:03:13
Very, very well.
2:03:15
Adam Curry: That was I actually
played them out of order.
2:03:18
Doesn't matter. Doesn't matter.
Oh, yes, he was also he was
2:03:23
doing the rounds. He was on
Reuters. About the it's an old
2:03:28
one that
2:03:29
John C Dvorak: he's traded
probably.
2:03:30
Adam Curry: Screw that guy.
Screw. Screw him. Screw my say.
2:03:33
So I had that we had the dinner
with the ER doctor and his wife.
2:03:36
John C Dvorak: Okay, and how did
that go? What you what you
2:03:39
learn? And what did you learn?
2:03:41
Adam Curry: Here's what I'm
learning both. Finn Ben Dazzle.
2:03:44
Lee Finn, Ben Dazzle. Lee. I
think it is
2:03:46
John C Dvorak: and Ben Yes,
stuff. I was talking about anti
2:03:49
cancer drug.
2:03:50
Adam Curry: Yeah, it sounds like
it's the real deal. Yeah, of
2:03:53
course. It's generic. It's used
to D warm dogs.
2:03:57
John C Dvorak: So another word
for dewormers got to be good for
2:04:01
you.
2:04:03
Adam Curry: But that's what
everyone's talking about. And it
2:04:06
seems like there's something
there. Yeah. I don't want to put
2:04:11
words in his mouth. But seems
like there's something there. So
2:04:16
more bad news for the for the
pharmaceutical industry? No. No,
2:04:22
as long as as long as we have
the as long
2:04:24
John C Dvorak: as they can
advertise on TV there's no bad
2:04:27
news for them. They gotta be
banned from advertising some of
2:04:30
the stuff they're advertising is
like sounds I get death pill
2:04:34
when you listen to the whole ad?
Pretty
2:04:37
Adam Curry: much all of it
sounds like a death pill. The
2:04:39
new Alzheimer's drugs right off
the bat may result in death Hey,
2:04:45
granny. It's a win win either
way. The the either you remember
2:04:50
stuff or you clear up you're
dead and you're out of our
2:04:52
lives. Right before we take a
break. This was for conspiracy
2:04:56
therapists like myself. This was
a concerning message that came
2:04:59
out On Friday and this is a
report, part of it Friday part
2:05:04
of it Saturday 1000s
2:05:06
Unknown: of people are still
waiting for their money tonight,
2:05:08
US Bank Wells Fargo Huntington
Bank, everyone shared the same
2:05:12
message about a deposit delay.
Danny Spiewak explains what
2:05:16
happened. And when you'll see
your money.
2:05:20
from Minneapolis based US Bank
to Wells Fargo to Bank of
2:05:23
America, some of the nation's
largest banks experienced
2:05:26
disruptions Friday with direct
deposit. The Federal Reserve
2:05:30
says it's because of a
processing error with the
2:05:33
centralized system known as the
automated clearing house. If it
2:05:37
wasn't at one of the banks. It
was actually in the in the
2:05:40
plumbing that feeds those
deposits into the banks. Greg
2:05:43
McBride is the Chief Financial
Analyst for bankrate.com. It's
2:05:47
unsettling going into the
weekend to not see the deposit
2:05:50
there that you had expected to
see when you got up this
2:05:52
morning. The Clearing House says
this impacted less than 1% of
2:05:56
daily transactions. But that's
still 1000s of users. Across the
2:06:00
country. People flooded social
media with complaints, asking if
2:06:04
others were having problems with
direct deposit to one person
2:06:08
wrote, direct deposit being
messed up when rent is due is
2:06:11
crazy, but your money is safe.
And the banks are working to get
2:06:15
that corrected with the
provider. For example, US Bank
2:06:19
said in a statement that
customer accounts remain secure,
2:06:22
and balances will be updated
when deposits are received. The
2:06:25
money will be there. What you
want to do is make sure that any
2:06:29
payments that we're scheduled to
come out today that those
2:06:32
creditors are notified that
you're not assessed any late
2:06:35
fees. And that if there were any
overdraft fees that you
2:06:38
incurred, that the bank reverses
those. There is no timetable
2:06:42
right now for when all these
direct deposit issues are going
2:06:45
to be fixed.
2:06:46
Adam Curry: Well, clearly it's
the fault of ivermectin. But
2:06:50
when I hear reports, A I? No,
no, when I hear reports that
2:06:55
people talking about, oh, it's
something in the tubes. And I
2:06:58
really, I mean, the way ACH
works. I know because I had
2:07:02
Bankers Trust another fine
institution at Bankers Trust as
2:07:07
a client in the in the mid to
late 90s. And it's really these
2:07:11
huge machines. These mean, huge,
but they're all mainframes and
2:07:16
they have to do settlements, and
they do a lot of it in the
2:07:19
overnight hours. And it's okay,
the I have to send this man this
2:07:23
much to you, you got to send
much this much to me. So we
2:07:26
don't actually send anything
back and forth. We just do an
2:07:28
accounting. What bothers me
about this report is everyone's
2:07:31
saying your account is secure.
Why? It was there? Was this
2:07:38
maybe some kind of maybe
ransomware game imagine
2:07:42
ransomware or something of that
magnitude getting into the ACH
2:07:45
system
2:07:46
John C Dvorak: is that it would
be unbelievably interesting.
2:07:52
Adam Curry: Well, they're saying
your accounts are secure. Yeah,
2:07:54
John C Dvorak: I think you may
have picked up on something
2:07:56
there something may have
happened at that level. Now,
2:07:58
Adam Curry: the only other thing
I can think is that the Citizens
2:08:01
Bank of Iowa basically collapsed
on Friday. Not a lot of news
2:08:06
about it. So maybe because they
had stuff going back and forth
2:08:11
that they had to, you know, stop
the tubes, but it is kind of a
2:08:15
two Bish system. It's really old
fashioned. This not it's no
2:08:19
magic. It's not like, you know,
like crypto, that money going on
2:08:24
a blockchain. It's just these
big machines that have to talk
2:08:28
to each other overnight. It's
the clearing house. So you never
2:08:32
want that to happen on a
weekend. It's not it's not a
2:08:35
holiday week. Is it a holiday
weekend? No.
2:08:38
John C Dvorak: We have a holiday
coming up now. But now, that
2:08:41
doesn't
2:08:41
Adam Curry: count. It would have
to be on a bank holiday weekend
2:08:45
as they say. But I think that's
not like it. So it's just
2:08:51
troublesome. The ACH I mean,
that's everything goes through
2:08:55
Ach, doesn't it? Checks.
Everything goes that way.
2:09:00
John C Dvorak: You had the
banker over should ask him.
2:09:03
Adam Curry: I didn't know I had
the ER doctor and the banker
2:09:06
over the ER doctor.
2:09:09
John C Dvorak: Oh, we should ask
him.
2:09:11
Adam Curry: No, if you ask the
bank is a bad meeting. That's
2:09:16
the kind of answer you get from
him. You get like you don't know
2:09:19
what you're talking about. Okay.
Maybe this is maybe it's time to
2:09:23
bring in fed now.
2:09:26
John C Dvorak: Yeah, there's a
ton that's the thing to do can
2:09:28
be something like that. even
comes close to that clip. Bezos
2:09:34
moved to Miami. I got that. Who
cares? Yeah, I got a Trump fraud
2:09:40
case update. It's got a little
bank and stuff who cares about
2:09:44
banks. Eric
2:09:45
Unknown: Trump concludes his
testimony. He said he wouldn't
2:09:48
sign anything that wasn't
accurate. The judge has ruled
2:09:52
that he and others fraudulently
inflated the value of his
2:09:55
father's assets. Our legal
correspondent Arlene Richards
2:09:59
finds out sorry Before
2:10:00
Adam Curry: we before, why
didn't they use the old glitch?
2:10:06
That's what I'm missing from
that report.
2:10:08
John C Dvorak: Oh, this is
buggy. Is he eating at you? Yes.
2:10:12
Because normally normally that's
what they do. They said there
2:10:15
was a glitch glitch in the
system, nothing to worry about.
2:10:18
But instead they're waving their
arms going, No, you're you're
2:10:21
secure. Everything's fine.
Everything's fine. And then you
2:10:25
imagine the building on fire
behind that guy.
2:10:28
Unknown: This is fine. Yes.
Okay.
2:10:31
Back to drum. Eric Trump
concludes his testimony. He said
2:10:34
he wouldn't sign anything that
wasn't accurate. The judge has
2:10:38
ruled that he and others
fraudulently inflated the value
2:10:42
of his father's assets. Our
legal correspondent Arlene
2:10:45
Richards finds out why he signed
documents that the judge
2:10:48
believes are fraudulent. Eric
2:10:50
Trump is finished testifying,
but he didn't leave the stand
2:10:54
until after the state confronted
him with evidence that he signed
2:10:57
off on estimates of some of his
father's properties. The state
2:11:01
is trying to establish that
Donald Trump's second son was
2:11:04
involved in a scheme to inflate
the value of his father's
2:11:07
assets. The younger Trump said
he relied on his accountants and
2:11:11
attorneys to ensure those
estimates are accurate. Judge
2:11:15
Arthur and Goron has already
ruled that the senior Trump and
2:11:19
his two sons fraudulently
inflated those assets to win
2:11:22
favorable terms from lenders and
insurers. outside of the
2:11:26
courtroom. Eric blasted Attorney
General Letitia James, he told
2:11:31
reporters later that James
should be an advocate for
2:11:34
businesses like Trump's she
2:11:36
should be an advocate for
businesses that pay a lot of
2:11:38
taxes and do great things and
meet their commitments and pay
2:11:42
off their debts.
2:11:43
He said she should not advocate
for Deutsche Bank. She should
2:11:47
also go
2:11:47
out and fight for the little
guys as opposed to try and be an
2:11:49
advocate of Deutsche Bank,
2:11:51
who literally loves us who said
we have done absolutely nothing
2:11:54
wrong.
2:11:55
He said Deutsche Bank made
hundreds of millions of dollars
2:11:58
from doing business with Trump,
something the judge has not
2:12:01
disputed. But the focus of this
trial is on how much more money
2:12:05
the bank could have made up for
the fraud. Eric said the truth
2:12:09
will come out.
2:12:10
We haven't done a single thing
wrong. They're trying to
2:12:12
disqualify my father for 2024.
He's leading in all the polls.
2:12:16
His father
2:12:17
posted two words on social media
election interference.
2:12:22
Adam Curry: Now, the former New
York banker worked at Deutsche
2:12:25
Bank. And years ago we talked
about because they did business
2:12:29
with Trump. Then we talked about
his head at Trump's a douche,
2:12:33
but we always make good money
off of it. I think that's a
2:12:36
direct quote. Yeah, I'm
2:12:38
John C Dvorak: sure that's
exactly right. And isn't this
2:12:40
just a
2:12:40
Adam Curry: matter of market
pricing best price? Yeah,
2:12:44
John C Dvorak: there's a judge's
using like the price that you
2:12:47
that you get from the county and
the value of your property. They
2:12:51
did that with Mara Lago Oh, so
2:12:53
Adam Curry: he's gonna say that
all right. Okay. Well, Mar a
2:12:55
Lago he said was like $8 million
dollars or something? Yeah,
2:13:00
something ridiculous, which is
what Trump might have bought it
2:13:03
for. That's very well I
2:13:06
John C Dvorak: don't know
whatever he bought it for is
2:13:08
beside the point. The thing is
valuable property especially
2:13:10
where it's located. That's I
mean, with the devaluation might
2:13:13
be worth a billion it might be
worth 2 billion you can't sell
2:13:16
it for 8 million I guarantee to
sell quick.
2:13:21
Adam Curry: Now there was a
whole report.
2:13:24
John C Dvorak: Now this is just
obviously just this is
2:13:26
transparently election
interference is no question. No.
2:13:32
And all these other cases, I
think the public is wise to it.
2:13:35
And these things are starting to
fall apart
2:13:41
Adam Curry: Well, it's a little
quiet on the pot on the
2:13:44
political front, there's not a
lot of bass
2:13:47
John C Dvorak: because Kennedy's
taking themselves out of the
2:13:49
picture at least for now.
2:13:51
Adam Curry: Yeah, they tried to
get him with the the UC that
2:13:53
they tried to get him with the
with the Lolita Express. That he
2:14:01
flew already. Oh, yeah, he
Bromberg. Yes. But here it is.
2:14:06
And this is actually kind of
interesting when I read the the
2:14:09
the statement amid mounting
curiosity over Kennedy being
2:14:13
listed as one of the passengers
on the on Epstein's jet. A
2:14:18
spokesperson for the former
Democrat exclusively told
2:14:21
John C Dvorak: Newsweek Wait,
wait, stop. Where are you
2:14:23
reading this from?
2:14:25
Adam Curry: I'm read Newsweek
and it's and
2:14:27
John C Dvorak: it uses the term
former Democrat. Yes. Ah, that's
2:14:32
pretty revealing.
2:14:34
Adam Curry: exclusively told
Newsweek that he had quote,
2:14:37
flown one time on Jeffrey
Epstein's private plane. It was
2:14:41
in 1993 from New York City to
Palm Beach to visit RFK Jr's mom
2:14:46
for Easter. The spokesperson
added that the private jet trip
2:14:49
was made possible by Kennedy's
then wife, Mary Richard Kennedy,
2:14:54
who was friendly with Epstein's
partner at the time, Julian
2:14:57
Maxwell. Now, of course, Mary
Kennedy not mentioned in this
2:15:01
report committed suicide after
they were years after they were
2:15:05
divorced. But they say
Richardson Kennedy passed away
2:15:09
in 2012. That's interesting too.
Instead of you know she
2:15:14
committed suicide. Kennedy has
been married to Curb Your
2:15:18
Enthusiasm star Cheryl Hines
since 2014. Quote Mary Kennedy's
2:15:23
wife and two of their kids were
on the flight the representative
2:15:25
said Mary new Epstein's
girlfriend julaine Maxwell, who
2:15:29
learned that they were going to
Palm Beach for Easter and
2:15:31
offered their family a ride. I
never get cool offers like that.
2:15:35
While there has been no evidence
to suggest that Epstein's listed
2:15:38
plane passengers were involved
in any of his crimes, a number
2:15:42
of social media users have
falsely pushed the suggestion
2:15:45
that all those who knew him were
in some way complicit well, then
2:15:49
they should also talk about
Kamala Harris who was partying
2:15:52
it up with Julian Maxwell so but
clearly clearly a
2:15:59
John C Dvorak: lot of the
stories that you know the
2:16:00
Kennedy up it relies on stories
like this that can be debunked
2:16:08
debunk bubbles so it's so
there's a lot of debunking most
2:16:12
of it comes out and it was oh,
oh is a bad guy. Oh, it's debunk
2:16:16
Oh, he's a good guy.
2:16:18
Adam Curry: The D bond
2:16:18
John C Dvorak: he was doing his
getting a ride I
2:16:20
Adam Curry: think we need a t
shirt debunk bubbles. tumtum Dum
2:16:23
Dum
2:16:23
John C Dvorak: so so Kennedy all
this stuff is very Oh, he said
2:16:27
this about that. No, no, he
never did. Oh, I didn't know.
2:16:30
Okay, well, okay. So there's a
lot of this debunk bubbles
2:16:34
around Kennedy. It's like, phase
three.
2:16:38
Adam Curry: Well, you better
step it up. Maybe just chill
2:16:42
out, maybe chill out until after
the Lensky is dead or something.
2:16:46
I'm praying maybe three bunking?
2:16:50
John C Dvorak: You have to you
have to assume if it's up if
2:16:57
it's if it comes down there's a
reason.
2:17:01
Adam Curry: And with that, I'd
like to thank you for your
2:17:03
courage in the morning to you
the man who put the sea in the
2:17:06
scary channels ladies and
gentlemen say hello to my friend
2:17:08
on the other end the one and
only Mr. Johnson
2:17:16
John C Dvorak: in the morning,
you have a strong crazy morning
2:17:18
little chips to see in the boots
on the ground. The feet in the
2:17:21
air the subs in the water the
Dames and the nights out there
2:17:23
and
2:17:23
Adam Curry: in the morning to
the future graduates of the no
2:17:26
agenda HD and to our tools in
the tool room. Hands up trolls.
2:17:34
Want to Okay, we have 2058 Right
now,
2:17:41
John C Dvorak: people bailed
out. We must have been boring.
2:17:43
We had
2:17:43
Adam Curry: 2269 About half an
hour ago. Yeah.
2:17:47
John C Dvorak: So where were the
average on Sunday should be
2:17:49
2400.
2:17:50
Adam Curry: So we lost it with
the I guess with the with the
2:17:53
COVID When people heard they
could die. Chicken out on
2:17:56
chicken. Yeah, actually,
2:17:57
John C Dvorak: it's not just not
uplifting. It's not uplifting. I
2:18:01
have I would say most of our
audience has gotten the shot. So
2:18:07
what are you gonna do? I mean,
it's you all you're doing is
2:18:09
presenting them with the Doom.
It's not good. I'll never do it
2:18:12
again. Now there is some there
that we should be what there is
2:18:16
this? Supposedly there's a
couple of there's some there's
2:18:22
some natto mid something that is
derived from natto. That that
2:18:27
fermented beans that the
Japanese eat and a couple of
2:18:31
pills. There's some different
kinds of supplements you can
2:18:36
take yourself? Yes.
2:18:39
Adam Curry: Of
2:18:40
John C Dvorak: the
2:18:40
Adam Curry: I will ask. I will
ask the ER doctor. I think he
2:18:44
has a protocol.
2:18:46
John C Dvorak: Yeah, there's
gotta be protocols and then that
2:18:48
will then people will listen
because instead of telling him
2:18:51
they're all gonna die, you're
just being like the mainstream
2:18:54
media. I'm horrible. You're
horrible. So instead of telling
2:18:59
him that you'd be telling him
hey, look at this. Look at that.
2:19:03
Who has some some some links?
Yes. Not ha
2:19:09
Adam Curry: bless you. not
medical advice, not medical
2:19:12
advice, but God bless you. Do
you have COVID
2:19:16
John C Dvorak: Now I gotta
sneeze.
2:19:20
Adam Curry: Thank you trolls. We
love having you here just about
2:19:22
trolls have been good this
morning. For some reason they
2:19:26
just been good. I don't know
they not as trollee as usual,
2:19:29
troll more trolls. Now you can
become a troll. It's very
2:19:34
simple. Just look for a bridge,
go live under it. You're good to
2:19:36
go. Or you can go to troll
room.io and become a virtual
2:19:41
troll. And we do that. While we
have no agenda stream.com which
2:19:45
is 24 hours a day with all of
the best podcasts from around
2:19:48
Gitmo nation. It truly is the
best Podcast Network, a true
2:19:52
sense of the word because you
sit there in the troll room and
2:19:55
you listen to a lot of the shows
are live and you just troll like
2:19:59
that. You know what you're
talking about. And it feels good
2:20:04
to femoral, you know,
2:20:05
John C Dvorak: that's the voice.
2:20:09
Adam Curry: That's exactly what
it is.
2:20:14
John C Dvorak: And the
ventriloquist comes out he's
2:20:17
Adam Curry: back, he's back.
Episode femoral because it goes
2:20:20
away. You know, that's what's
cool about it. It's not like no
2:20:23
agenda social where we have lots
of trolls congregating. And
2:20:27
that's just like any other
social network algo we're not
2:20:29
people spitting on each other
up. And then what happens is,
2:20:33
then they resort to DM Hey, man,
you should come down. There's
2:20:38
Easy does it man, don't worry
about it.
2:20:41
John C Dvorak: But who's doing
that? To who know? Well,
2:20:44
Adam Curry: people get mad at
each other. And then other
2:20:46
people will DM those people and
say, hey, you know, calm down,
2:20:50
it's not that big a deal. And
you know, so they're trying to
2:20:52
console them. Now talk them off
the ledge. But, but it's,
2:20:56
John C Dvorak: it's I've never
seen that
2:20:58
Adam Curry: not because you
don't see the DMS because their
2:21:00
DMS, the private direct
messages, you can't see them.
2:21:04
Okay, I think the problem with
this is when you have someone
2:21:09
who posts something, and then
all the replies have equal
2:21:13
weighting equal weight, so
they're the same size, you know,
2:21:16
it looks like an original post.
2:21:18
John C Dvorak: But it'd be like,
like Digg, where you get up and
2:21:21
down, voted and then type font
changes. And
2:21:26
Adam Curry: I'm just thinking
just you can't comment. You can
2:21:28
only post No comments. You just
quit. You can post you can't
2:21:32
respond anybody. Oh, that would
make more sense. Do you like it?
2:21:37
I see you yelling at people all
the time. I'm not
2:21:40
John C Dvorak: yelling at
anybody. Okay, now you had to
2:21:46
find it. Okay. I want to see an
example next time you see when I
2:21:51
want you to put it aside and
then bring it up on the show and
2:21:53
then condemn me. Well, I
2:21:55
Adam Curry: can very easily do
it right now. Go Jhansi Devorah.
2:21:58
I will find anything you will
the absolute Johnson vorak. I'm
2:22:01
gonna go to posts and replies.
Okay. And here we go. Let me
2:22:07
just scroll down a little bit
2:22:19
how does be provocative cross
any line? There you go. This one
2:22:23
right there. That's you. That's
you yelling
2:22:27
John C Dvorak: and you're
listening caps.
2:22:29
Adam Curry: Oh, it has to be in
caps. Okay. All right.
2:22:31
John C Dvorak: I just see
yelling. I just hear your
2:22:33
Adam Curry: voice when I know
your voice. Low. free donuts.
2:22:41
See there it is that yelling
again at people about free
2:22:43
John C Dvorak: donors. Yeah.
2:22:47
Adam Curry: Yes, all of the
trolls record by the
2:22:50
John C Dvorak: way. Yes. So one
of our policemen says me. Some
2:22:57
Krispy Kreme Doughnuts. Get it
to the mailbox.
2:23:02
Adam Curry: Oh, how'd they
arrive?
2:23:04
John C Dvorak: to rove like they
would have it doesn't matter if
2:23:08
they're 10 minutes. unfresh. Or?
It could be a month. It's all
2:23:11
the same? Yeah. And then he
demanded a D douching. For some
2:23:16
unknown reason. And now. Thanks
for the doughnuts. Doughnuts.
2:23:22
Adam Curry: Yeah, well, is that
not treasure? Is that not
2:23:24
treasure?
2:23:25
John C Dvorak: I guess he says
they're delicious.
2:23:29
Adam Curry: So you should posted
a note in the social angrily
2:23:34
post. What did donut angrily
that you're not giving him a
2:23:37
deducing? Oh, no,
2:23:39
John C Dvorak: I just said it.
Yeah. Okay. He knows he listens.
2:23:42
He knows what he's doing. So
2:23:44
Adam Curry: do you send my
portion of the doughnuts to me?
2:23:47
John C Dvorak: Yours the ones
that went bad?
2:23:49
Adam Curry: Of course. Yes, the
old wine cask. This is a value
2:23:55
for value show. And we've been
doing that for 16 years. And I
2:23:59
personally love it. This is the
longest job I've ever had. It is
2:24:06
not what I'm paid for what I'm
made for. I enjoy it so much.
2:24:10
And that's because we have time,
talent and treasure sent back to
2:24:14
us. So the deal is, here's the
show twice a week, three hours
2:24:18
minimum sometimes longer, that
you enjoy it as long as you want
2:24:22
for whatever you want to do, do
whatever you want. And if you
2:24:25
think that it's valuable enough
to keep it going then you send
2:24:28
something back to us now a lot
of people like to send us talent
2:24:31
and treasure which is very
appreciate highly appreciated
2:24:34
because many of these things we
could never do. We could never
2:24:37
have artists that supply us with
nonstop artwork to choose from
2:24:41
for every single episode that
would bankrupt us right there.
2:24:44
Just that one gesture alone.
That no agenda social you
2:24:48
kidding me. I had to give that
that's a full time job. That's
2:24:50
what Aaron er does. Then he
needs you know, he has to take
2:24:53
all kinds of SSRIs and
everything and Xanax to stay
2:24:57
calm. So we couldn't have done
any of them. We can no agenda
2:25:02
meet ups.com Same thing. We get
stories boots on the ground
2:25:06
donuts clips store. I mean
everything you can imagine, is
2:25:11
brought to this show from our
producers. And we'd like to
2:25:15
thank the artist who brought us
the artwork that we chose for
2:25:19
the previous episode and then
1604 We titled that one janky a
2:25:24
lot of people love the title
janky is a good word. And and I
2:25:30
think I'm pronouncing his name
right this time Matt Boyer. Matt
2:25:33
Boyd air above air Boisvert if
you pronounce it, the way it's
2:25:39
written, Matt bow bear brought
us the artwork that we we kind
2:25:43
of jumped on right away. There
was the two signs the signposts
2:25:47
old school one pointing to the
right one pointing to the left
2:25:50
anti Semites 33 miles to the
right Islamophobes 33 miles to
2:25:54
the left and it kind of is right
up our alley. I guess this is
2:25:58
exactly where we want to be with
the show.
2:26:03
John C Dvorak: Yeah, the same
was the one I mean there was
2:26:05
there was art that was usable.
2:26:07
Adam Curry: A lot of people had
the Fredericksburg Declaration,
2:26:10
which we
2:26:10
John C Dvorak: Yeah, they liked
that. I mean, that wasn't going
2:26:12
to happen because we don't have
a declaration yet. like kinda
2:26:16
like you know, Darren again goes
with the obvious the easiest
2:26:19
thing you need to remember to
joke he does the booms there
2:26:22
immediately.
2:26:22
Adam Curry: Jen Psaki with the
clown nose was by
2:26:26
John C Dvorak: the way, I will
say this the nose should be
2:26:27
bigger. Yeah.
2:26:31
Adam Curry: Lenski in heaven
with a Gaddafi No, that's not
2:26:34
happening. That's too much dead
stuff. No, that wasn't gonna
2:26:38
happen. Boot jokes. No, no, no
boot jokes. That's Ron DeSantis
2:26:43
that's a that's a pool boy joke.
We're not going to participate
2:26:46
in that. What else was there
anything else that we liked?
2:26:52
John C Dvorak: I thought it was
the stop AI with the six fingers
2:26:54
I thought it was cute. But it
wasn't gonna be used I also
2:26:58
liked actually did like the
Scarah mangas drunk robot which
2:27:03
I just thought was funny. But
that was gonna get used probably
2:27:06
died. This This piece was
probably the only one that was
2:27:09
going to get
2:27:11
Adam Curry: drunk robot. I did I
miss that down
2:27:13
John C Dvorak: near the bottom
and it's under Jen Sakis. Red
2:27:16
clown nose. Oh, great.
2:27:17
Adam Curry: Yeah, the drunk
robot drinking club. Yes. And
2:27:22
oh, yeah, we did have some. Some
Well, this is also Matt Bow Bow
2:27:25
bear. He had a Lenski coke
image. Which by itself was a
2:27:31
Lenski with a lot of powder
around his nose was
2:27:34
John C Dvorak: funny. Yeah, the
powder around his nose was
2:27:36
funny. It was That was good. But
but the pile of coke itself was
2:27:41
not artistic. It didn't look
like it looked like a small
2:27:44
mountain then to top it off of
the polar bear that made no
2:27:47
sense. made no sense.
2:27:49
Adam Curry: I mean, I know we
had altered media stamped on it.
2:27:51
But now it's
2:27:54
John C Dvorak: there was too
bad. But I do like to have the
2:27:58
Zelinsky face with the powder on
his face is very funny.
2:28:05
Adam Curry: If you were to kill
switch, there was a Jordan
2:28:09
Peterson with the hideous
jacket. Which one one note is
2:28:15
actually mirrored. The blue is
on the other side in the red. So
2:28:19
the red and the blue are on the
other side on the real jacket.
2:28:22
Man. Did you see amazing Polly
about the art conference? No.
2:28:28
John C Dvorak: I haven't seen
amazing Polly for almost a year
2:28:31
Adam Curry: she went all the way
bedsheets and brought up that
2:28:33
Jerome dude, there was there was
some tree from Sweden or
2:28:37
something. He's also high in the
organization high up. I mean,
2:28:41
he's a climate change guy. And
he's like, you know, climate
2:28:44
change is happening. It's real.
But you know, we just want to
2:28:46
make sure we do it responsibly
or something like that. You
2:28:49
know, we we don't want to you
know, we don't want to make poor
2:28:52
nations even poor with what me
what? So they're all in on
2:28:56
climate change now. Weird.
Weird. Yeah, she had some pretty
2:29:04
good, pretty good breakdown.
2:29:06
John C Dvorak: Where she's
young. She on RUMBLE, RUMBLE
2:29:11
bitch. Shoot.
2:29:13
Adam Curry: I think she's on
rumble. I think. Yeah, I don't
2:29:18
know. I hadn't seen her for a
while either. Someone sent me a
2:29:20
link. Oh, that's right. I got it
from David Icke. David I again,
2:29:24
I've noticed he wasn't invited
to ark. He isn't he's not part
2:29:28
of the show. She can't she
couldn't know she wanted to do
2:29:31
she connected the Ark thing to
she got it all the way to
2:29:36
Candace Owens. And there's a lot
of interesting connections with
2:29:40
these people.
2:29:40
John C Dvorak: It's kind of a
Yeah, that's one of the best.
2:29:42
She does that better than
anyone. Now. I will say she's
2:29:46
always been good at connecting
dots that are like, well, that's
2:29:49
kind of far out and then she
manages to do it. It's very
2:29:52
difficult to persuade. Oh, see,
hear from it that much. They
2:29:55
can't she definitely doesn't do
two shows a week. No, no, no,
2:29:59
she doesn't do
2:30:01
Adam Curry: Anyway, we always
like to thank our executive and
2:30:05
Associate Executive producers at
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2:30:09
After thanking, of course, the
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at the at the donations from top
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we start with Dan Duchess Chem,
keeper of the nutty fluffers no
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stranger to the show. Hubbard
Oregon $2,000. And let me read
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her notes because she sent in a
typed note in the morning, Adam
2:30:54
and John screw your freedom. Oh,
no, that's her jingles what she
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wants screw your freedom little
girl. Yeah, a our two d two
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cancer karma, please. Yes, we
can do that for you. 1000 PhD
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1000 To go to John and grumpy
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John the grumpy old miner in
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then right.
2:31:28
John C Dvorak: You have to go to
the ring site no agenda
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rings.com I guess Yeah. Okay,
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to the putting your data into
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get the right name on the
Diploma in recommend using your
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name. There's no other word is
the diplomas pretty, you know,
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straightforward boilerplate
Yeah, yes. And we should be
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shipping us some tomorrow the
big bulk of them be shipped out
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on the 15th with the rings
calling the J
2:31:57
Adam Curry: yeah I got a
notification that my my diploma
2:32:00
was on its way I'm very excited
about
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John C Dvorak: that. You got it
got it by now I
2:32:03
Adam Curry: thought it may be in
the mail I'll check
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John C Dvorak: Mail on Sunday.
2:32:08
Adam Curry: Oh here we go. Screw
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Unknown: you freedom
2:32:18
karma
2:32:21
John C Dvorak: there we have
another $1,000 from Sir Grease
2:32:23
Monkey. Fine. Finally. paying my
tuition so you will release my
2:32:29
degree. Like any other
accredited university, which
2:32:33
we're not no we're not that.
This were the no agenda show.
2:32:37
Secondly, full payment of
tuition brings me to Baron good.
2:32:41
I would like to retain my name
of Sir Grease Monkey and become
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barren of the Permian Basin.
2:32:49
Adam Curry: Done, okay. I'll
make that happen for Don Vikon
2:32:52
Steven Dean 1000. And he says,
Oh, this is sad. In loving
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memory of Judy Dean, who passed
suddenly after tooth surgery on
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1023 23 That's horrible. Yeah,
2:33:06
John C Dvorak: it could happen
to you. She always told me
2:33:10
Adam Curry: she always told me
to go back to school and become
2:33:12
a doctor. Well here you go Mom.
Probe whatever works. Probate
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can't probate. Listen to me
probate karma please. Vikon
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Stephen dean of the Fox River
Valley in Chicago. burbs sorry
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to hear that by Count
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Unknown: you've got karma.
2:33:31
John C Dvorak: Jennifer
Derrick's is up with another
2:33:32
1000 Happy 16th anniversary she
writes ITM if I get a dame name
2:33:38
please make it Jennifer on the
mountain. That's all thanks.
2:33:42
Adam Curry: Beautiful. Andrew
Williams 1000 request douchebag
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check F cancer and jobs karma
ITM here's some value for the
2:33:50
fantastic content produced by
everyone and delivered with
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aplomb by the dynamic duo every
week. Thank you. PS John. I
2:33:58
always enjoy the perfectly timed
whimsical folly. It always
2:34:01
brings a smile please Knight me
sir socks of the low pressure.
2:34:06
And he has roundtable request.
Westinghouse silver liners and
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Thorn beta fives Do you have any
idea what that is? No.
2:34:21
Unknown: Jobs, jobs, jobs and
jobs Let's vote for Jobs
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John C Dvorak: got karma I have
no idea. Sir layer on another
2:34:40
1000 out of breath queuing up
near the end of the line for my
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diploma. The show is still
interesting. Thank you. The
2:34:48
stole the show is interesting.
And entertaining. After all
2:34:54
these years I've been listening
no jingles no karma. Sir Rachael
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Ray has shown that up doped up
Faster labor on of the wire grip
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of the wire grass aka Doc Martin
PhD,
2:35:08
Adam Curry: you gotta duck.
Anika Weber Parts Unknown 1000
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I'd like to be known as Dame
Annika of the Pensacola
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homestead Maga she's from
Pensacola. I was hit in the
2:35:20
mouth by my douchebag friend
Scott during the pandemic and
2:35:23
can't get enough of your media
deconstruction. I've been
2:35:26
holding off on donating because
we are still paying for our
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house in Tennessee praying to
close any day now. However, I
2:35:33
encountered the number 33 Three
times in two days. I knew it was
2:35:37
time to donate and request some
house selling karma while I
2:35:41
placed my trust in God, I
figured this can hurt. Thank you
2:35:44
both for all you do. I seriously
can't get enough I'm listening
2:35:47
to all your old stuff to on
episode 869 swamp of crazy. The
2:35:53
election stuff is fun to relive.
Really it's fun to relive.
2:35:59
John C Dvorak: Seems likely.
very respectfully Annika Here
2:36:03
you go. Annika,
2:36:03
Adam Curry: here's your karma.
2:36:04
Unknown: You've got karma.
2:36:08
John C Dvorak: Okay, now you got
Mike Statum Statum and he's in
2:36:12
late in late in Florida and he
was in Florida. I've already
2:36:18
skipped to the Utah Utah and
Layton Utah and he wrote whereas
2:36:27
this is his
2:36:29
Adam Curry: Yeah, Ph. D.
Donation part all
2:36:32
John C Dvorak: night of Parts
Unknown. Okay, it's gonna be the
2:36:34
nights of Parts Unknown jingles
F 35. Karma. Mike's he didn't
2:36:38
have really much to say so he's
got his PhD in there and then a
2:36:41
bunch of other donations listed.
So good. Okay. Thanks, Mike. F
2:36:45
35 Karma.
2:36:48
Unknown: You've got karma
2:36:54
John C Dvorak: it's gotten
popular, sir. Yes,
2:36:57
Adam Curry: sir. Tommy Hawk,
Iowa City bows your bank doing
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359 In the morning Jen says
donation isn't to honor the
2:37:03
passing of Nora Lee Ballmer, who
lived 95 years at full throttle.
2:37:08
I love hearing that that's what
I want is when I go is like he
2:37:12
lived at full throttle. That's
right. The Iowa City area is
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better for having her around. I
bet she thanks you for your
2:37:21
courage rest easy Grammy. Sir
Tommy Hawk Baron of the
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heartland indeed.
2:37:27
John C Dvorak: To J K in Green
Bay, Wisconsin. Go packers is up
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next. Three Three 3.33 needs
some house selling karma of the
2:37:35
goat variety jet guy variety
thanks. So you get go goat
2:37:41
versus jet guy variety. So you
got both of them alright, thanks
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gents for all you do sir. J K in
Green Bay night of the
2:37:48
entertaining kerfluffle
2:37:52
Unknown: you've got
2:37:58
you've got karma
2:38:05
Adam Curry: now Bruce Suam. Do
we have a note from him? Or is
2:38:08
that just this
2:38:08
John C Dvorak: is a check that
came in 23456 I don't have a
2:38:13
note sorry that Bruce usually
says something. You've got
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Adam Curry: karma double up
karma. I'll do this one
2:38:22
Harrisburg. This probably guy
blows off your spreadsheet. This
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is from sir. Thanks a lot.
Mansfield. Texas row ducks.
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2222. It's now official Ashlynn
speed that no agenda racer is,
2:38:34
though. Oh my goodness. To do
this officially, is the winner
2:38:40
of the 2023 SCCA Southern
Conference Championship in the
2:38:45
formula. And she actually has no
agenda on her car. Yes, cute.
2:38:54
And today's her 17th birthday.
Can you believe that she kicks
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butt on these cars. Happy
birthday to my only human
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resource and hope for a future a
patriotic Texas proud God
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fearing resourceful and humorous
teenager, she seems well on our
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way to all of that. In 2024,
she'll be going for the SCCA
2:39:14
national championship in the
very fast and highly competitive
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formula enterprises series. So
that's the open open car fast.
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Of course, we couldn't do this
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What a sweetheart so if you
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That's the whole point. That's
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Have a good time and like a
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John C Dvorak: the way, this
girl is going to go far, just
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from the karmic aspect of her
being named Ashlynn speed. I
2:40:15
mean, please raise
2:40:16
Adam Curry: her baby. Oh, yeah,
no, she has she has Mac's
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written all over her. That
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John C Dvorak: she'll be up
there. I think she can do she
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could do f1 I really do. She
could do f1 For sure that's
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where she's headed. If you
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Adam Curry: know the business
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please email sponsor at Ashlyn
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courage to all have no agenda
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socials. For jingo, Please play
the sound you make when driving
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a race car which is we
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were very proud of it. We're
very proud of Ashton. We're very
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very proud of ash and we we've
been on racing cars before but
2:40:53
never on a winner. This is this
is great. We're on a when is us
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John C Dvorak: we also on a
bike. Yeah, that's true. Wyndham
2:41:00
in Spring, Texas is up with
another row of ducks. 22222 no
2:41:03
note from him. It came in as a
check, back check and so we'll
2:41:06
give him a double double up
karma.
2:41:08
Adam Curry: You've got karma.
And as we neared the end of our
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Associate Executive Producers
Vincent John Miller in Kailua.
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John C Dvorak: We wrap it up
with Linda LAPACK in in
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Lakewood, Colorado to in her
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Whilst navigating a competitive
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karma, please.
2:42:42
Adam Curry: She must be doing an
A B testing now with her
2:42:46
Unknown: with her jobs maybe?
Maybe maybe not and jobs for
2:42:51
jobs.
2:42:57
Adam Curry: Y'all crack me up.
Thank you so much to our
2:42:59
executive and Associate
Executive producers. You're
2:43:01
always coming in big covenant
strong and your PhDs are ready
2:43:06
for you. I'll be conducting the
ceremony in just a moment along
2:43:10
with the Knights and Dames and
title changes. Thank you again
2:43:13
for supporting us here on
episode 1605. John's gonna take
2:43:16
us through to the 50s
2:43:18
John C Dvorak: Yeah, we have a
few more that Ron Sherman's
2:43:20
leaves us off from Colorado
Springs, Colorado. 160 and 40
2:43:25
cents. John rubbin $100 Rowan
pike on her dollars and he has a
2:43:32
note which you can look at if
this douching or anything in
2:43:35
there. I don't think I have in
German in North Tora Mora New
2:43:39
South Wales Australia. 808 as
you says he forgot to get
2:43:45
knighted. So I guess he's a bit
No, no, hold on a
2:43:48
Adam Curry: sec. No. You said
Ivan. His name is David.
2:43:52
John C Dvorak: Did I say Ivan?
2:43:53
Adam Curry: I think you did.
Wow. Yeah, that's concerning.
2:43:58
Now did we did we forget him
what happened? But no.
2:44:01
John C Dvorak: Need to tell us
his night name or something?
2:44:04
That's his fault.
2:44:05
Adam Curry: He's not a black
knight. Now er, keep up the
2:44:08
brilliant he wants
2:44:09
John C Dvorak: to be a black
knight like you did like many
2:44:11
others. It has to be our
mistake. Yeah, so
2:44:13
Adam Curry: he will be Sir David
callsign Barney Jarman,
2:44:16
protector of the Aussie pilots.
You got it? Christian
2:44:20
John C Dvorak: growl Grealish
relation we got Ivan from I
2:44:26
don't know ma'am. What is it
What are you drinking relish in
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Blake lend the Florida 808
Birthday donation we got you.
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Kevin McLaughlin arias in
Concord North Carolina. He is
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the Archduke of Luna lover
American moves and he has 1605
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Boob donation he has he's lost
his ability to add to Asia he
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Adam Curry: ran out of melons.
2:44:51
John C Dvorak: Sir herb lamb and
Sugar Hill Georgie never used
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headlamps by the way. 808 you
He's also
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Adam Curry: now he's back. He
was overboard due to work but
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he's catching up. All right,
welcome back Duke with the deep
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state
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John C Dvorak: oh eight and
welcome to Duke of the South.
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Deep South Deep South, right way
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50 And he starts off the $50
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Nanaimo. Jacob Martinez and
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there. Qu i n t e r o x Brian
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Sandra fell I Ichi Kanagawa in
San Francisco. Cory Jackson in
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Waterton, Tennessee and then I
believe he's in Oklahoma City,
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Brett Farrell wraps it up with
$50 donations want to thank all
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these people for making show
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Adam Curry: And of course, our
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Unknown: We go out yet people in
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Adam Curry: Well, what do you
know we have a very important
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birthday which took place
yesterday Mimi Smith, the Lorax
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celebrated Happy Birthday Mimi
thinks a lot which is his only
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human resource Ashlynn speed
Happy Birthday turned 17 Today
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we're all celebrating your
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pokey says Happy Birthday to
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Christian Greulich is
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everybody here at the best
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don't want to be induced and you
heard him earlier sir
2:49:09
Greasemonkey came in and I guess
he's going to have a PhD so he
2:49:14
came in hard and heavy and
receives a title change at the
2:49:17
same time. He now will be known
as Sir Grease Monkey Baron of
2:49:21
the Permian Basin. And we thank
you also for your support of the
2:49:25
no agenda show now it's time to
get those PhD graduates have
2:49:29
appeared Duchess Kim, keep up
the nutty fluffers John the
2:49:32
grumpy old minor sir
Greasemonkey Vikon Steven Dean,
2:49:37
Jennifer Derrick's Andrew
Williams sir layer on Annika
2:49:40
Weber and Mike Staton welcome
new no agenda, PhDs to the
2:49:45
society of learned persons. The
path to this high academic
2:49:49
earner for some of you has been
a long if not costly one. Some
2:49:54
of the price bid has been paid
by your hard earned wisdom and
2:49:57
in some other ways but today is
not an end. It is only a
2:50:00
Beginning from this point
forward, go forth and spread the
2:50:03
no agenda word far and wide. We
will not be silenced. We will
2:50:06
not be deterred. The truth is go
out and find
2:50:16
John C Dvorak: out what do you
think getting there, you're
2:50:17
getting there. I'm working on.
2:50:20
Adam Curry: Congratulations, go
to no agenda rings.com That's
2:50:23
where you can find your PhD in
the menu and send off your name
2:50:27
that you want, we suggest you
use your real name, because
2:50:29
that'll make it look just as
real as it actually is. Don't be
2:50:32
too jokey about it. And of
course, that is also the website
2:50:36
where we can get our rings for
our nights in our games, and we
2:50:39
have two days and three nights
so John, if you can give me your
2:50:43
John C Dvorak: guy got my two
three night blade
2:50:47
Adam Curry: and a glamour agenda
for Derek's David Jarman, Mike
2:50:50
Staton and Andrew Williams all
of you are up on the podium here
2:50:53
and because you are about to be
knighted Knights and Dames of
2:50:57
the no agenda roundtable I'm
very proud to pronounce the Cade
2:50:59
the as daemonic of the Pensacola
homestead Dame Jennifer of the
2:51:03
mountains. Sir David callsign
Barney Jarman, protector of the
2:51:07
Aussie pilots night of parts
unknown for Mike Staton and Sir
2:51:12
socks of the low pressure for
you. We have hookers and blow
2:51:15
red boys and Chardonnay, also
Westinghouse silver liners and
2:51:18
Thorn beta fives along with that
beer and blondes, finesse lemon
2:51:22
and Rosae cases and Saki Baca,
Manila bong hits and bourbon,
2:51:25
sparkling
2:51:25
Unknown: cider s for ginger ale
and dribbles. And of
2:51:27
Adam Curry: course, the mutton
and Mead.
2:51:31
John C Dvorak: Right went I also
think there's somebody, I have
2:51:35
to explain this, but John Monaco
donated $50.33, and he should be
2:51:40
on this list down which list the
main spreadsheet. Oh, okay.
2:51:46
Adam Curry: All right. Good. I'm
glad you cleared that up.
2:51:49
John C Dvorak: So I have to make
go good. All right, so
2:51:50
Adam Curry: our new Knights and
Dames go to no agenda rings.com
2:51:54
They have you may be going there
already for your PhD. That you
2:51:58
can see our handsome Damon
Knight rings. And along with
2:52:00
that, once you enter your ring
size, there is a ring sizing
2:52:03
guide on the website and your
address. We'll send that off to
2:52:06
you with the wax to seal your
important correspondence and of
2:52:09
course, the certificate of
authenticity so you can always
2:52:12
show people that it is for real.
Thank you again, everybody.
2:52:15
Thank you so much for supporting
us and keeping the no agenda
2:52:18
train on the tracks. No one
2:52:27
well, oddly, oddly, there is no
reports no meetup reports. But
2:52:31
we do have meetups taking place
today in Central Florida, the
2:52:34
Central Florida meetup. Well,
that is well underway at
2:52:38
hourglass brewing in Longwood,
Florida. Hello, everybody hope
2:52:41
they're listening. on Wednesday.
The killjoy meetup takes place
2:52:44
killjoy dare to have fun five
o'clock at barleys Taproom and
2:52:47
pizzeria in Knoxville Tennessee.
We have the oh that's no break.
2:52:51
No break is hosting that is he's
the only guy that had like he
2:52:54
post pictures of cool muscle
cars. Let me see. That's the Oh
2:53:00
yeah. Then I promised I would
pre promote the November 18. The
2:53:04
seventh northwest Houston
meetup. That'll be in the 18th
2:53:07
at Wakefield crowbar in Houston.
And man, if you look at the
2:53:12
calendar, we have a lot does it
go through Christmas almost
2:53:15
December 16th. Cincinnati, Ohio
we see see New Mexico we have
2:53:20
bear handled and Netherlands on
the 12th. We've got Fort Wayne,
2:53:24
Indiana and we have oh yes, of
course there's November 18
2:53:28
Sunset Valley. I'll be bringing
the keeper along with me. And
2:53:32
also we will both be at the Indy
meetup on December 4. Hey,
2:53:36
there's one in Brooklyn on the
ninth. I can't wait to hear a
2:53:38
meet up report from that one.
These are the no agenda meetups.
2:53:42
If you've never been to a meet
up, well, then you're missing
2:53:45
out. You're only getting half of
the show. Really? Just a portion
2:53:49
of the show you need to go meet
some of your fellow producers. I
2:53:52
guarantee you you will not be
disappointed if you're
2:53:54
disappointed let me know I'll
refund you your money which
2:53:57
can't be done because it's free.
No agenda meetups.com go there
2:54:00
to find out if you can't find
one near you start one yourself
2:54:03
it's easy it's always a party
and you
2:54:06
Unknown: go hang out with all
day long be triggered
2:54:18
Adam Curry: everybody feels the
same. Like a pie
2:54:30
see, I have four ISOs for some
reason I wind up with four you
2:54:34
want to do yours first.
2:54:38
John C Dvorak: Let's hear yours.
Okay,
2:54:40
Unknown: I find that more
trustworthy I don't know about
2:54:45
that one.
2:54:45
Adam Curry: How about this one?
I don't need a detective I need
2:54:48
to keep her How about this one?
Here we go.
2:54:53
Unknown: Oh
2:54:57
John C Dvorak: that one got left
on me.
2:54:58
Unknown: This is my favorite me
lalalala fingers and ears
2:55:04
John C Dvorak: all right, I got
two. Okay.
2:55:08
Unknown: All back. It's time to
fall back. Okay,
2:55:13
John C Dvorak: that's pretty
good celebration of the stupid
2:55:15
same
2:55:16
Adam Curry: thing elitist time
change. Okay. And then here's
2:55:19
John C Dvorak: my favorite. Oh,
yeah.
2:55:21
Adam Curry: Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah,
these are all good. Let me just
2:55:26
let me see if the contenders are
2:55:27
Unknown: here we go. Oh, oh
yeah, it's time to fall back.
2:55:34
Adam Curry: I think we have to
do fall back. I mean, you just
2:55:36
can't get around that it's
perfect for the timing is right.
2:55:39
Yeah. It
2:55:40
John C Dvorak: is probably the
best one call though. I think a
2:55:43
combination of yours and Oh,
yeah. Would be good.
2:55:47
Adam Curry: Oh, hold on a
second. Let me see how that
2:55:49
works. So mine first. Yeah.
Which one? The
2:55:54
John C Dvorak: hip, the guy
making them when it cracks me
2:55:56
up.
2:55:56
Adam Curry: Here we go. Oh, no,
no, no. It doesn't work. It's
2:56:03
too long. Now. We'll do yours.
We'll
2:56:05
John C Dvorak: do your roll back
is fine. Fall back. It's
2:56:07
Adam Curry: no, it's beyond
fine. It's great.
2:56:09
Unknown: It's great.
2:56:11
John C Dvorak: It's appropriate.
2:56:13
Adam Curry: Just I wanted to
play one little clip here. Just
2:56:16
to show how often children are
used for political means I
2:56:22
should say abused
2:56:26
John C Dvorak: is a lot to do
with hitting the never ending
2:56:29
theme of the show. Yes,
2:56:30
Adam Curry: we have. Well, now
we have just who? Who kills
2:56:34
whose children? worser. That's
what's going on right now. We
2:56:39
had Greta Greta tune very, very
worst. We had the throwing the
2:56:44
babies out of the incubators.
Remember that one? Yeah. Yep.
2:56:48
Now,
2:56:49
John C Dvorak: but don't forget
the crying teenagers that are
2:56:52
crying over climate change?
Well, yes. Public? Yes.
2:56:55
Adam Curry: Let's go back to
1999. Now this is before we
2:57:02
really had well, we didn't have
global warming. We didn't have
2:57:06
climate change. We had the hole
in the ozone. Do you remember
2:57:11
that jar, the hole in the ozone.
And that was going to kill us.
2:57:16
And this. And this is the girl
who is known as the girl who
2:57:20
silenced the world for five
minutes. She's from Canada. Her
2:57:25
name is? Forget her last name.
She's Suzuki. Her dad is an
2:57:30
elite was an elite up there and
that can the Navia but we don't
2:57:33
talk about that because she paid
for her own trip, I think was
2:57:37
Brazil or something where they
had this meeting. And they show
2:57:40
all all the whole of the elites
just looking like ah well yes,
2:57:45
she has no future see if you can
spot the similarities between
2:57:49
Greta and all the other children
abused for the global elite.
2:57:59
Unknown: Hello, I'm seven Suzuki
speaking for eco the
2:58:02
environmental children's
organization, where a group of
2:58:05
12 and 13 year olds trying to
make a difference. For NASA SETI
2:58:10
Morgan Geisler, Michelle Quig,
and me. We've raised all the
2:58:15
money to come here ourselves, to
come 5000 miles to tell you
2:58:20
adults, you must change your
ways. Coming up here today, I
2:58:25
have no hidden agenda. I am
fighting for my future. Losing
2:58:31
my future is not like losing an
election, or a few points on the
2:58:35
stock market. I am here to speak
for all generations to come. I
2:58:42
am here to speak, speak on
behalf of the starving children
2:58:46
around the world whose cries go
on heard. I'm here to speak for
2:58:51
the countless animals dying
across this planet because they
2:58:54
have nowhere left to go. I am
afraid to go out in the sun now,
2:59:01
because of the holes in our
ozone. I'm afraid to breathe the
2:59:05
air because I don't know what
chemicals are in it. I used to
2:59:10
go in. I used to go fishing in
Vancouver, my home with my dad.
2:59:15
until just a few years ago, we
found the fish full of cancers.
2:59:21
And now we hear of animals and
plants going extinct every day,
2:59:26
vanishing forever. In my life, I
have dreamt of seeing the great
2:59:32
herds of wild animals, jungles
and rainforests full of birds
2:59:36
and butterflies. But now I
wonder if they will even exist
2:59:41
for my children to see. Did you
have to worry of these things
2:59:46
when you were my age? All this
is happening before eyes and yet
2:59:51
we act as if we have all the
time we want and all the
2:59:55
solutions
2:59:58
John C Dvorak: when I was a kid
We had to jump under a desk did
3:00:02
sorry didn't get blowed up by a
nuke
3:00:07
Adam Curry: dropping cover
dropping
3:00:09
John C Dvorak: break, so she'd
be in her 30s mid 30s Now Is she
3:00:13
dead? Do we know?
3:00:16
Adam Curry: No she I think she's
in her 40s Now she the mid to
3:00:19
late 30s No she's not dead. And
and you know the existential you
3:00:23
know? I don't know of any how
many animals went away are we in
3:00:27
the Sixth Extinction where's she
should be a part of extinction
3:00:31
rebellion she should be leading
it but no no such luck they
3:00:39
always use the children always
but works yeah, but it's it's
3:00:46
it's so different works well.
3:00:48
Unknown: What's so disingenuous
3:00:49
Adam Curry: every single time
that's all
3:00:52
John C Dvorak: we talk about as
this in this genuine Unison
3:00:56
Adam Curry: genuine entity.
Genuine a disingenuous
3:01:00
disingenuous entity. Yeah,
alright everybody that's it. We
3:01:05
hope you enjoyed your media
deconstruction don't worry about
3:01:08
it. Go outside sniff the air.
Oh, no, you can't because you
3:01:12
know the chemical is gonna kill
you don't go out in the sun
3:01:16
might burn you to death. Just go
outside. Enjoy everything. Enjoy
3:01:20
your family. Enjoy your ball.
Throw a ball. Stay off the
3:01:25
social networks for the rest of
your Sunday will Yeah. Phantom
3:01:30
Ville. Sir Michael Anthony and
Tom Stark where they're all part
3:01:35
of our end of show mixes for
today. And up next we've got
3:01:41
Missy
3:01:48
I'm not sure I thought we had
beer balderdash and some melts.
3:01:53
Yes. Beer bourbon and balderdash
that coming up next on no agenda
3:01:56
stream if you're in the troll
room troll room.io coming to you
3:01:59
from the heart of the Texas hill
country here in FEMA Region
3:02:01
number six in the morning,
everybody. I'm Adam curry, from
3:02:05
John C Dvorak: Northern Silicon
Valley, where we may actually
3:02:08
have some showers in the next
day or two. But it will be
3:02:11
showers I'm John Seymour. We
return
3:02:13
Adam Curry: on Thursday please
join us then we'll be right here
3:02:16
on no agenda. Till then adios
Mufasa who we who we and such
3:02:35
bomb isn't going away stay
columns to the left of
3:02:58
Unknown: Kevin Davis
3:03:05
started with the nest
3:03:33
it's November and you know what
that means. discounts on
3:03:36
leftover Halloween Candy Yum,
just in time for National
3:03:40
Diabetes month was not on
purpose. Anyway, eating candy is
3:03:44
a fun and effective way to
develop Type Two Diabetes.
3:03:48
According to Joe Biden, one in
10 Americans has diabetes and
3:03:52
one in five of them don't even
know they're diabetic. The CDC
3:03:56
says that diabetes can lead to
infections, heart disease,
3:04:00
kidney failure and so much more.
All of these can help to fight
3:04:03
climate change through
population control. Diabetics
3:04:07
also helped the economy boosting
profits for industries from
3:04:11
health care to processed food.
Do your part this November by
3:04:14
eating more sugars and processed
foods avoiding exercise and of
3:04:19
course taking more insulin and
other medications.
3:04:22
Unfortunately, type two diabetes
can be reversed. So the futures
3:04:26
of Big Pharma and big food
depend on the choices you make
3:04:30
today. Happy National Diabetes
month.
3:04:33
It's daylight savings time. It's
my least favorite holiday kills
3:04:38
people
3:04:39
the first country to actually
have daylight savings and
3:04:41
standardized across the country
was actually Germany or the
3:04:44
German Empire to be more precise
during World War One.
3:04:47
Scott Harding is one of many
growers dependent on daylight to
3:04:50
get the job done. You
3:04:52
have to quit that much soon. You
have to everything pick up this
3:04:55
sunshine Protection Act which
would end the changing of the
3:04:59
clock. Once and for all, our
goal as we spring forward this
3:05:02
weekend. We're not going to have
to fall back in the fall if
3:05:06
we get our air bill passed in
the daylight savings makes this
3:05:09
a whole more complex thing to
work out. Daylight Saving Time.
3:05:12
That's what I check the
firewood, change the back,
3:05:16
change the phone for Wi Fi
3:05:28
MoPhO vorak.org/in A it's time
to fall back