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John C Dvorak: Everybody should
move to Saskatoon, Adam curry
Jhansi Devora
Adam Curry: may 16 2024 This
Year Award
Unknown: winning killer nation
media
Adam Curry: assassination
episode 1660 This is no agenda.
We are climate smarts and
broadcasting live from the heart
of the Texas Hill Country here
and FEMA reached number six in
the morning everybody I'm Adam
curry here
John C Dvorak: from brothers
Silicon Valley where we want to
remind people that no dude over
40 is going to rock and roll all
night and party every day. It's
bullcrap. I'm Johnson's war axe
Adam Curry: kill. Oh, have you
know, I was rocking and rolling
all night in part and every
single day when I was 40 You
weren't you? You were when you
were 40 I remember you when you
were 40 Don't I know? You were
pulling apart computers on the
TV? Yeah,
John C Dvorak: well, those guys
that rock and rolling all night,
whatever that means. And
partying every day, which is
which, which presumes by the
wording that you're better you
never get any sleep bullcrap.
Hey. Hello. You and Darryl
singing along with that song. I
couldn't know Dara thinking his
Adam Curry: name is now Daryl.
Daryl.
John C Dvorak: Daryl, you and
Darryl and his other brother
Daryl.
Adam Curry: You cracked me up
Jhansi Devorah. Oh, man. Well, I
feel Are you okay? That you
knock I dropped this clip sheet.
Oh, no. And it is it's a literal
sheet, isn't it? It's a
clipboard. Tell me it's a
clipboard.
John C Dvorak: clipboard sorry.
Just a piece of paper. Well,
Adam Curry: speaking of pulling
computers apart. I had such a
great week. I loved Monday and
Tuesday was so funny. As these
numb nut Nimrods in Silicon
Valley, tried to convince us
that AI is great. It's great.
Everybody is just great. I'm
gonna tell you right now. I'm
going short AI and long on
people. This is here. Would you
like a 45 second overview of the
Google I O event with Sundar
Pichai and all of his
executives.
John C Dvorak: This is Yes,
actually, I was gonna get this
clip. That you got it? Yeah,
Unknown: IPI ai ai ai ai ai ai
ai ai ai ai ai ai ai ai ai ai ai
ai ai really useful. ai ai ai ai
AI. AI ai ai ai ai ai ai ai ai
ai ai ai ai ai ai ai ai ai ai ai
ai ai ai ai ai ai ai, ai, ai ai,
ai students AI and that's the
power of generative ai ai
toolkit. Generative, generative,
generative AI. AI ai ai,
Adam Curry: was there anything
that you heard of that you
thought might be useful in your
life? At Google presented
anything?
John C Dvorak: No, but I saw a
report that was kind of
frightening. Oh,
Adam Curry: did you get a clip
of Cedric? No, no, I
John C Dvorak: wish I didn't
have a clip and I had to explain
it. Actually, I'll get a clip
and put it on the next show.
Adam Curry: Okay, well, then I
have one more clip here. Because
not to be just more who put that
together? You didn't know? I
didn't know know that. That's
been circulating. Now. Let's be
circular. It's
John C Dvorak: a good clip.
Adam Curry: It's a great clip. I
mean, that's what when people do
that, then you know that no
one's buying it. You know
instead of Oh, boy. Oh, so good.
But now but now not to be
outdone. Open ai ai ai open AI
Sam Altman's. What's that calty
was in again. Was that six cold?
Those guys are in? Yeah, it was.
Yeah, I forget the name of that
section. It
John C Dvorak: was a sex coach.
Adam Curry: I think it still is
a sex call.
John C Dvorak: I think it's
still in business. Yeah, I think
so. What? What, what, who breaks
up a sex cult keep nobody
effective?
Adam Curry: No, especially not
if you're said leader of said
sex call. You gotta made
Effective Altruism. We're going
to save the world with math. So
they they came up with a demo,
which was as I've distilled
this, a classic classic Silicon
Valley demo. Classic. So there's
a guy sitting in a room. This
John C Dvorak: guy. Well, let me
explain what that means to the
public. Oh, please do all be S.
Adam Curry: I'll be all the
time. It's unbelievable. But now
Now because of this demo. And I
looked up the definition of the
word reason to reason. So when
when AI can reason it would be
like the AI would see me sitting
here in my room and would
presume Oh, by see a microphone.
I see a mixer. I see you got
headphones on. Are you about to
do a podcast? See that's what
that's reasoning. But yeah, so
they're open AI is is now
effectively a a creepy, somewhat
over sexualized spokesmodel who
got on my nerves very quickly.
It's kind of like Siri with a
personality. So here's the guy
sitting in a room, then, and
he's holding up the camera, and
the open AI is having a
conversation with him.
Unknown: Hey, how's it going?
Hey, there, it's going great.
How about you? I see you're
rockin an open AI hoodie. Nice
choice. What's up with that
ceiling about? Are you in a cool
industries to office or
something? Well, can you take a
guess at what that might be
doing based on what you hear?
John C Dvorak: I can't tell
which gay guy is the AI? And
which gay guy is the is the
person that'd be the kind of
female I'm very similar. They
both are affectations. Let's put
it that way. Yes.
Adam Curry: I love the I see
you're rockin a cool open AI
hoodie.
John C Dvorak: Now, now if I
held that counter, so that's the
that's the AI talk. And then
Adam Curry: because the AI is
reasoning, you see, it's
reasoning that it's not rigged.
This demo at all, is, of course,
reasoning. And we continue.
Unknown: From what I can see, it
looks like you're in some kind
of recording or production
setup. With those lights,
tripods and possibly a mic. It
seems like you might be gearing
up to shoot a video, or maybe
even a live stream. Yeah. Yeah.
Why
Adam Curry: wouldn't the AI say
podcast? Or television show? But
no, it's some kind of
demonstration or live stream
perhaps.
Unknown: Or maybe even a live
stream? Good point. Yeah. In
fact, we've got a new
announcement to make. Or
Adam Curry: how about are you
gonna send me a dick pic? No,
no, no, no, the reasoning is
smart. Okay, let's see what he's
in fact about to do. That's
Unknown: exciting. Announcements
are always a big deal. Judging
by the Senate looks like it's
gonna be quite the professional
production. Is this announcement
related to open AI? Perhaps it
is. And in fact,
Adam Curry: Oh, wow. This thing
is so smart. He's like, Wait a
minute. You rockin the open AI
hoodie. You've got video and
light. Could this be something
about open AI?
Unknown: Is this announcement
related to open AI? It is. And
in fact,
what if I were to say that
you're related to the
announcement or that you are the
announcement?
Me? The announcement is about
me. Okay,
Adam Curry: this is where when
creepy for
John C Dvorak: me? Because it
phony laughs weird
Adam Curry: kind of it's lightly
sexualized. Which is kind of
creepy. Me. You're talking about
little old me. Huh? My pants.
Unknown: The announcement is
about me. Well,
John C Dvorak: this is not a
road. This is like somebody on a
microphone someplace.
Adam Curry: On his bed gets
better. Well, Color
Unknown: me intrigued. Are you
about to reveal something about
AI? Or?
John C Dvorak: Hold on? Yeah.
How does the AI voice breeze
like that? You know, in and out.
I mean, this is ridiculous.
Adam Curry: This is how good
it's gotten. John. It's
reasoning. It's comic strip
blogger breathing somehow our
mystery blogger thinks everyone
would be dead in five years.
This is all this going to be
running. Is this.
Unknown: Something about AI or
more specifically about me as a
part of open AI? You've got me
on the edge of my Well, I don't
really have a seat but you get
the idea. Ah,
John C Dvorak: oh, and it's
funny. It's doing materials
doing stick. What's
Unknown: the big news? Yeah,
we've got a new model interact
with the world through audio
vision and texts.
Adam Curry: Oh, man, they have
demos. They do have a blind dude
in Times Square holding up his
phone told me what I'm not
seeing. I mean, come on. It's
it's it's embarrassing at this
point. He's embarrassed. And Sam
Altman, I tried to clip he did a
an hour long interview with his
one of his venture capital
partners on their podcast and
this is the thing These days,
you have a VC company and
John C Dvorak: then you have
well, this is not just the state
this has been going on for
years. But
Adam Curry: you have your
podcast or in residence. Oh, I'm
going to interview Sam about
that podcast and residents I
love. Podcasts are in residence
for sure.
John C Dvorak: I'm a podcast and
residents. What do you do? Sit
here.
Adam Curry: It's an exit
strategy.
John C Dvorak: Yeah.
Adam Curry: Hello, Adam curry,
Jhansi Dvorak. Here we are
podcasters in residence for
Kleiner Perkins. Let's talk
about some green tech,
everybody. So here's my
question. Because you asked good
GPT for Oh, little Oh, how will
actually make money? I would
like to ask that question. And
when will it make my email
better? You want to impress me?
Let me run this thing on my
email. So it knows what I want
to see. It pops things to the
top, it learns it does machine
learning, it can reason how to
lie when I don't really want to
respond to somebody do that, and
I'll be impressed.
John C Dvorak: That's a good
product you just described of
course,
Adam Curry: that's that is the
product. That's the killer app.
But no, no, instead, of
John C Dvorak: course, I can't
do anything. That's no, you're
Adam Curry: rockin a cool open
AI hoodie there. People but you
know, I got emails from people I
I still kind of respect. Like
the former New York banker, the
former New York banker, he says,
Look at this man. It's really
getting somewhere now. And he
said he sends me a link to this
demo. I'm like, Are you kidding
me?
John C Dvorak: Kittens. Really
getting somewhere? Yeah, he got
suckered by the demo that demo
is, is obviously a fake.
Adam Curry: Yeah. I mean, we've
done these demos, John. Now,
mind you, we could be in Kuala
Lumpur. I mean, I'm with Mark
Kanter. I've done the demos.
I've done the demos. Here's how
it works in Silicon Valley. But
okay, let's go raise a trillion
dollars. We need more money.
When this thing comes spinning
apart is going to be hilarious
to watch. And it will always
does always does. Yeah. And
although you think this this is
a real cycle, like the cycle.
Well, I
John C Dvorak: have watched this
over and over. Yeah. And it's
always it happens at some point
it sticks.
Adam Curry: Yeah, but it's what
sticking is as well. What's not
John C Dvorak: it's not. I mean,
I'm first they get this could
stick I think some aspects of it
will. But with stuff like what
you just played is, is is
disconcerting. It's I can't say
the word right. disconcerted.
disheartening.
Adam Curry: Yeah. But it's
disheartening is that people are
great bids. Here we go. It's
reasoning is smart is smart.
That's
John C Dvorak: the way those
demos work that we've seen this
over the years that oh, they
they're very effective at
Buffalo in the public.
Adam Curry: And if you ask
anyone, I mean, it's actually
pretty good at helping people
code. Okay. But it's not going
to replace coders because
writing code is like, poetry
prose, you know, it's not Yeah.
Okay. But a little simple
program. Sure. You can replace
some widgets in the
organization, but not people who
actually code software as a, as
a creative endeavor that it
really is, you know, putting
design in the back of their mind
is they're doing it. Oh, it's
like, it's like disco. It's like
disco of code. It's like it's
programmatic. Okay, well, yes,
some of that is good. I mean, if
anybody who has spent any time
trying to get any AI to sort
through any data, oh, I can
upload a Google spreadsheet to
at Google, what is it called?
What is the Google Google Doc?
John C Dvorak: Google calc count
Adam Curry: because I want to
visit this crazy cow. I can
upload my visit. I can upload my
VisiCalc to it. And you know,
but by the time you're done, and
by the time you're done
correcting it. I mean, it always
has 20% error rate and then you
probably could have gotten
gotten more done. If you just
did it yourself. Now it's just
doesn't sheets. There you go.
Thank you Google Sheets. She
hates
John C Dvorak: sheets, the
sheets man totally sheets.
Adam Curry: Then the former New
York banker did send me this pre
pre print durably reducing
conspiracy beliefs through
dialogues with AI Oh, yes,
they've done a stir that'll do
it. They've done a study across
two experiments, we find robust
evidence. That's better than no
evidence robust evidence that
the debunking conversation with
the AI reduced belief in
conspiracy theories by roughly
20%
John C Dvorak: to 20%. What
conspiracy theories are we
talking about? Oh,
Adam Curry: Moon Landing and
stuff. Now. The effects did not
decay over two months time. So
it's stuck. was consistently
observed across a wide range of
different conspiracy theories,
and occurred even for
participants whose conspiracy
beliefs were deeply entrenched,
and of great importance to their
identities. But I'd be You
John C Dvorak: what 20%? Is this
a small number, it seems to me,
Adam Curry: it's roughly so it's
probably 18 or 17. Furthermore,
although the dialogues were
focused on a single conspiracy
theory, the intervention spilled
over to reduce beliefs in
unrelated conspiracies,
indicating a general increase in
conspiratorial worldview, as
well as increasing intentions to
challenge others who espouse
their chosen conspiracy. These
highlighting these findings
highlight that even many people
who strongly believe in
seemingly fact resistant could
spiritual beliefs can change
their minds in the face of
sufficient evidence. There's
hope for me. There's hope for me
yet. With AI. I hope that that
groovy chick in the open AI
system will talk me off the
ledge next time. It's amazing.
It's amazing. That's where we're
at. I mean, who knew who needs
who needs anything?
John C Dvorak: We don't need
anything. Yeah, you ran into a
brick wall with that. Yeah, I
Adam Curry: know. So it's okay.
Sorry, I should have stopped
earlier. You're right. Now the
big I think there's a couple of
big stories out there. I see you
have a multi partner, so I'm
going to lead you into it. I'm
gonna let you loose and then I'm
gonna come back and I'm gonna
close. I'm gonna close the deal
on this one. Okay. So yeah, the
Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Because it's
not going away. It's bird flow.
That's not medical news.
Unknown: We can with America's
favorite doctor, the US Federal
Government,
Adam Curry: America's favorite
doctor,
Unknown: but is announcing new
funding to help mitigate the
risks of the bird flu outbreak
among livestock?
Yeah, and we've covered this
before. We've been talking about
it for a while, while now when
you have a spreading pathogen,
like avian influenza, do you
want to try to mitigate and
contain that spread? And this is
what the federal government is
really targeting the industry
and agriculture
Adam Curry: as well. Let me take
you through it. It's a spreading
pathogen.
Unknown: They are pledging
financial support for PPE for
employees affected,
Adam Curry: okay, now listen
carefully. They're all the words
we've learned PPE pathogen, so
they're going to give PPE to
people who might be exposed to
the non existent threat of bird
flu in cows.
Unknown: Let me take you through
it. They are pledging financial
support for PPE for employees of
affected herds, because we know
that now, there are at least
nine states involved with these
infected herds, funding for heat
treatment disposal of impacted
milk because that's the only bio
secure way of disposing of milk
that has been exposed or
infected. compensation of
producers for the loss of milk
production is obviously
important and they need to work
with the states to limit the
movement of lactating cattle
because again, from the
agriculture and industry
standpoint, you really need to
protect the people who are
closest to these infected
animals at this
John C Dvorak: point, I just
love to say that it was a cow,
white lactating, animal,
Adam Curry: lactating cattle, it
just sounds good. All right, we
got one more
John C Dvorak: that you know
that what that plays into the
birthing person. Things Yes,
lactating, but now they're
moving it over to the animal
world. It's not taking cattle is
a cow. Hello.
Adam Curry: It's not a meal.
It's not a dairy cow. lactating
cattle, lactating animals that
lactate with four legs. So now
this it's off the hook is very
important. what's being said
here?
John C Dvorak: Where'd that come
from? By the way?
Adam Curry: That's ABC with Dr.
Jen Ashton, America's favorite
doctor.
John C Dvorak: Oh, she should be
she should be fired.
Adam Curry: Well, hold on. I got
another clip. And I'm gonna let
you loose on your on your raw
milk clips. Of course, I haven't
heard that we never listen to
each other's clips. But I saw
him. So I know we're going to
you're going to fill the
doughnut hole here. So it's very
important to note that the as I
predicted, they're talking about
calling herds Oh, no, the bee
compensation. This is what
they've been doing with ranchers
and farmers for decades in the
United States is how you get
everyone in control. It's like,
Hey, don't worry if your crops
fail if your herd has to get
called because of I'm sorry,
your lactating cattle needs to
be called because it has some
mythical bird flu virus in it
that we've detected somewhere
with PCR spun up to 80 cycles.
Don't worry, we'll take care of
your farmers.
Unknown: It's called bird flu,
but we cattle so it's reacting
multiple animals. This is a
question so
Adam Curry: people are multiple
animals now and a half. How do I
keep this affecting me?
Unknown: Listen, I've had
conversations with senior
official Oh,
Adam Curry: how is this going to
affect me? It's going to affect
me. Can I get the bird flu
question
Unknown: so people are going to
have How do I Keep from this
affecting me
Listen I have conversations with
senior officials at the CDC
right now they are considering
the risk to the overall US
population to be low but who is
at higher risk to people who
work in these industries so
right now you should try to
remove yourself from any animal
that definitely appears to be
ill if you're talking about
birds or cattle. And then again,
I think we need to realize that
Start
John C Dvorak: Stop stop stop
the clip
Adam Curry: stop and clip
John C Dvorak: Do they have any
evidence or even one dead cow
died from bird flu that they can
document there
Adam Curry: is no lactating
animal that has died the cows
are fine the cows like have you
seen the cows or move with the
tongue just like a normal cow
fortunately
Unknown: appears to be ill if
you're talking about birds or
John C Dvorak: be ill she said
up here appears to be ill
Unknown: and then again I think
we need to show
Adam Curry: you is not a
veterinarian She's practicing
veterinary medicine without a
license here as far as I'm
concerned
Unknown: definitely appears to
be ill if you're talking about
birds or cattle and then again I
think we need to realize that it
starts with containing amongst
our agriculture and that's what
we're seeing the federal
government right now
Adam Curry: all right so federal
government stepping in John now
of course the main the main
culprit where it all starts
where we're all worried we're
worried we're worried we're
worried raw milk whereas you
would say Milk Milk is the
John C Dvorak: Western Way raw
metal cargo with raw milk milk I
can say milk Yeah, you can.
Yeah, now this is we've been
clipping this for a while
they're they're just going after
raw milk like there's no
tomorrow and so to pound it home
you know they were doing it kind
of in an oblique way in the
previous couple of shows clips
but NPR compounded home that
pretty much gonna just talk
nothing but raw milk in these
few clips. I got six of them.
They're short, but they're and
they need to be interrupted a
lot. So that's why I chopped it
up. But here we go raw, raw
milk, Bs and
Adam Curry: a reminder and a
disclaimer, elitist
Unknown: voices of America. This
is NPR
or PBS the
bird flu outbreak continues to
spread among cows. The virus has
now been found in almost 50
dairy herds across nine states.
Health officials say milk that
is pasteurized to kill germs is
safe to drink. But the Food and
Drug Administration has renewed
warnings against raw milk. They
continue
to strongly advise against the
consumption of raw milk and
recommend that industry does not
manufacture or sell raw milk or
raw milk products.
Now unpasteurized or raw milk is
still being sold in many states
and advocates for raw milk say
the federal government has
always opposed this consumption
so why should they listen now?
Well, we're here to talk more
about this whole situation are
MPSP long and Kira Eisner hate
both of you
for alpha Hey, hey, hey,
hey Siri, I'm gonna start with
you. I'm
Adam Curry: sorry. I'll shut up
I see you already did all over
the joke. I know but this is
what you do with my clips so
I'll I will present the correct
example and I shall no longer
step on your clips. I apologize
in
Unknown: our amperes being long
and Kara Eisner. Hey to both of
you.
Hey, Elsa. Hey. Hey, Elsa. Hey.
Hey, hey, so Carrie, I want to
start with you because you went
to Texas last week and you were
I hear on this.
John C Dvorak: What is with
this? Hey,
Adam Curry: this is NPR. Here's
Elsa
John C Dvorak: Soto Hey, hey,
hey, what what do you say? What
is this? Broadcasting is this
well, it's
Adam Curry: it goes along with
the pronoun thing. It's like you
know, you can say hi, lady, or
Hello? No, no. Hello. You can
welcome to the show. No, oh, no.
Oh, no, no, this is just hey,
hey, you know what their family
at NPR? I think that's they
probably a memo went out. We
sound too serious guys. When we
do our handovers let's make it
sound like we're a family. Hey,
don't you think that's a memo
these these
John C Dvorak: guys ain't there
wasn't no but you deal with
family? What do you say? Hey,
what to your family? Hey,
Adam Curry: friends. This this.
This is a thing. Hey, friend,
John C Dvorak: Randy said what a
sales car. I used car sales guy.
No, this is what
Adam Curry: Millennials Gen Z.
This is what Joe Rogan says.
Hey, friends. Hey, he says hey
friends at the start of every
single one of his ads. Hey
friends. Yeah. It's kind of a
generic non threatening because
you can't say hey guys, oops.
You can't say hey people oops.
Um, so it is the it is a safe
way to address a crowd Hey,
friends. It is close next
tonight ladies
John C Dvorak: and germs. Oh no,
my
Adam Curry: favorite way. Oh,
no, no. Hey, it's it's a follow
on to Hey comrade I think I
think it's a
John C Dvorak: a comrade it is.
Yes. You nailed it. Yeah,
Adam Curry: it's Hey comrade.
Yeah. Okay, let's just listen to
that again. Hey, comrades.
That's what it is. It's code for
comrade. Well,
Unknown: we're here to talk more
about this whole situation our
NPSP long and Kira Eisner hate
both
of you. Hey, Elsa. Hey, hey,
Elsa. Hey, hey, hey. So
Carrie, I want to start with you
because you wrote to Texas last
week and you were here on this
mission to find raw milk and
test it for this virus. What did
you find?
I found it was quite easy to
purchase in Texas, it's legal
there. And all I had to do was
drive up to these farms and
purchase the milk directly from
them. In some cases, there was a
store attendant who I paid the
money to in other cases, there
wasn't even anybody there. I
just opened the door to the
fridge, grabbed the milk, left
cash in a drop box and came out.
Adam Curry: Wow, Texas is in an
out of control, man. You just
walk up and grab the milk. And
you're good to go. Whoa,
John C Dvorak: they don't quite
make they I think they're
somewhat baffled. We have this
in Washington.
Adam Curry: It's called Self
Service Honor system friend,
John C Dvorak: some routers
onramps. They're called onfarm
honor farms. You know, that's a
good and they're all over the
place. And you just go up there.
Now if there was in California,
they would not only not pay,
they would steal the box of
money and the refrigerator would
both be gone.
Adam Curry: As long as it's
under $950 in value. It's okay
comrade.
John C Dvorak: So I found it was
she seemed a bit none of she was
what she wants. She was baffled
by the fact that you could just
go buy something without having
to see somebody that you had to
do it by honor.
Adam Curry: What is this? Hold
on? Isn't that how California
shopping works? You just go in
and take it out?
John C Dvorak: Well, nowadays.
Adam Curry: Oh, okay. All right.
Next clip.
Unknown: In one of those farms
in San Antonio. I met another
woman who was buying milk. Her
name was Cheryl Moss from and
she said she's been drinking raw
milk on and off for the past 15
to 20 years
because I think that Roundup is
typically a much better quality.
Right now. We're just kind of
watching the situation. And
that was in Texas, which was
around zero for this outbreak.
Adam Curry: We're ground zero or
John C Dvorak: Texas or ground
zero. You know,
Adam Curry: it was the meat
mafia boys who gave me my most
recent jug of raw milk. Oh, you
John C Dvorak: got some? Oh, it
is.
Adam Curry: It's almost like
eggnog. It's so good. It's
pretty taste is eggnog is
basically if you like eggnog,
you will like raw milk
scientists can
Unknown: tell that's where bird
flu jumps to cows last December
and kicked off this whole
outbreak. Wait so
can people get bird flu from
drinking raw milk?
Adam Curry: Wait But wait, drink
John C Dvorak: writing read from
this Scripps ping like what I
know for CES?
Adam Curry: Yes. In bold in bold
letters with italics
Unknown: seeking raw milk pink,
like what do we know about the
risks?
Well, it's all theoretical. And
the answer is maybe but
honestly, health officials just
don't know. So the FDA we heard
from him in the intro, he's very
clear that the agency doesn't
recommend drinking raw milk but
he also says that there are a
lot of open questions.
Adam Curry: I just want to
remind everybody because I know
that we were doing the show when
this happened. I think we were
what were we doing the show when
I had the castle? No, I don't
think so. No, it was a year prep
post castle. So pre show I had
the castle in Belgium good good
times. And we had we you own the
castle. I own the castle. Yes.
You rented it as I said good
times. No, no, no, no, no.
John C Dvorak: Those were that's
got overhead issues. Yeah,
Adam Curry: because you got to
get a guy to do the outside you
got to get someone on the inside
and then a third person to make
sure those people aren't ripping
you off. Now it's bad. And
that's all in Belgium where
everything is complicated. But
anyway, we had a black swans a
family of black swans and the
mother and father always stay
there which was nice. The you
know, the swan swans will come
up and that actually walk into
the into the living room
sometimes. What? Oh, yeah. Oh,
yeah. Swans are
Unknown: braised up the door
open.
Adam Curry: Yes. This Ron come
in. He's like, You got something
to eat? Yeah, all swans? Dude.
When I when I this was Dude.
John C Dvorak: Dude. I had a
helipad. This is good. I know
you had a helipad. Right? So I
would come in. How much money
were you burning?
Adam Curry: Oh, I burned it off.
I burned it all on castles and
helicopters. I burnt literally
burned my money in the air. So
I'd come flying and you're
coming into a slow hover.
John C Dvorak: 300 feet there
was a black swan chopped up. No,
they
Adam Curry: would both come
flying toward me. And and split
off like cut Top Gun. shorts,
they would split off to the
right and the left it was. And
they would always do that they
will come and say hello to me.
Anyway, so we had tons of ducks.
And then there was bird flu. And
the bird flu was bad. And they
were calling chickens all over
the place. In fact, it came into
like a three kilometer radius.
And it was right around the
castle because we were pretty
sure that we're going to come
and call our, our, our ducks and
our swans, and I was kind of
ready for some kind of
confrontation. And, but that
didn't happen. It stayed
contained. And one of the guys
you know, one of my neighbors
who had chickens, he got bird
flu. And he would come over to
the house. He's like, Oh, how
you doing? I got the bird flu.
And it was like a like a, like a
bad flu. And he lived he just we
just stayed home for a day or
two and took some took some
Advil. And he got over it and he
lived he did not die. And it was
the authorities that killed all
his chickens. Now, they were
still tasty. So anyway, long,
long story short, this is this
is not a dangerous disease for
humans. No more dangerous than
the flu. And immune members,
swine flu. I had swine flu.
Remember, I got swine flu.
John C Dvorak: I live you guys
swine flu.
Adam Curry: I lived I lived.
Okay, back to pressing
John C Dvorak: your luck with
this conversation.
Unknown: There's not a
tremendous amount of studies
showing the infectivity related
to this virus and raw milk
products.
But one person whose for sure.
John C Dvorak: Did you hear what
he just yeah, why are they
banning it and making a big
fuss? They've got no they got
nothing. Nothing, nothing
evidence. So so
Adam Curry: here is my story.
reiterated by the experts.
There's not
Unknown: a tremendous amount of
studies showing the infectivity
related to this virus and raw
milk products. But
one person who's for sure gotten
bird flu so far was a dairy
worker in Texas and he was
dealing with sick cows he
probably got exposed to sprays
of infected milk and manure both
as far as health authorities can
tell no one has gotten bird food
from drinking raw milk yet.
That's what we're hopeful for
from drinking raw milk yet. So
what they're leaning on in their
recommendation is the fact that
people have gotten sick from
other things in raw milk like
salmonella and E. Coli. And
that's why they don't think
people should drink it. No one
Adam Curry: has gotten sick from
the raw milk. They're just
saying that so
John C Dvorak: here we go. Now
the thing that bothered me about
what they were I cut it off
there because the thing about
raw milk that is problematic and
it comes up in these dairies
aren't doing their job and is
Listeriosis not and they don't
even mention that. And so
Listeriosis, which also shows up
everyplace else too. There's a
CDC page I sent you a copy of it
was shown in the show notes, but
people should look on the on
this page as you will check it
out and read the the outbreaks
of Listeriosis that are on the
on the sidebar on the left and
I'm going to read a few of them
is the reporting timeline.
listeria outbreak linked to
queso fresco and CO T hace so
first outbreak linked to
peaches, nectarines and plums
listeria outbreak linked to ice
cream, listeria outbreak leaked
to leafy greens listeria
outbreak linked to a gnocchi
mushrooms listeria outbreak
linked to deli meat and cheese
my favorite on and on and
Adam Curry: Nick link to Bri and
come on bear
John C Dvorak: Bri and Cameron
bear and package and my daughter
is the raw milk on this list.
Whereas it's not there. Here's
one the outbreak of listeria
infections linked to hard boiled
eggs.
Unknown: I mean, where are you
from milk?
Adam Curry: Yeah, it's not
there. It's not there.
John C Dvorak: No list is not on
this
Adam Curry: and that that is the
CDC page they're referring to
what they're referring to here
Yeah, as a side as a side note,
what
John C Dvorak: is the hang up
you know me me I said it on the
last show made me claims is
because that it required the
kinds of inspections the raw
milk dairies require and what
they have to do is too much work
for the USDA, the CDC and
everybody else they don't want
to do it. They just don't want
to do it so they just assume you
boil everything and send it out
to the public and screw the
public of even if they want to
drink raw milk because it's
probably healthier or is claimed
to be because it's got more
enzymes and everything natural
Adam Curry: bakwin So I got a
boots on the ground from
producer crystal and she said
you know, we were very poor for
a while and the I was able to
get some food and some and some
wi C Food Program money that's
the women infant and children.
So it's a poverty program. I'm
like food stamps here in Texas
and the government supplemental
food program for low for low
income families now, the so they
they weren't poor enough for
food stamps but they but they
were poor enough to get the W
IC. So the only high protein
they were allowed to get was the
only meat here it is the only
meat you're allowed to get was
canned fish.
John C Dvorak: Tuna. Yeah,
everything
Adam Curry: was high in sugar.
We also had so much juice and
frozen juice. We didn't use it
because I couldn't imagine
giving my child juice at every
meal. So their firstborn was
basically a vegetarian, but then
became zinc deficient.
underweight. Of course, WNYC
gave some PD assure. And then my
son started having 40 minute
tantrums, he was absent, you
know, like absent minded, his
blood sugar was spiking from the
PDF. Sure. So finally, they got
to a better place financially,
we're very happy. And she says,
I started putting the kids on
grass fed meat, raw milk,
pasture raised eggs, and we've
never had a problem since the
kids look beautiful. So there
you go. It's the OP whenever the
government says something run
the opposite way. run the other
direction. They want us they
either want us dead. I don't
John C Dvorak: know what their
problem is with the problem with
these agencies that they're
they're corrupted. Yes. They've
been captured by various
industries and they're just
corrupted. There's nothing
There's no two ways about it.
Yes. And his milk thing is
ridiculous. So but let's go on
with
Adam Curry: your point. Let's
just stick a pin in that they're
corrupted. Because they are all
for industry. They're not for
your health. CDC is not for your
health. They are for industry.
Remember COVID? And
Unknown: are people who drink
raw milk actually taking this
advice? laugh till it
doesn't seem like it. I'll set
okay, we reached
Adam Curry: but I do I sit at
home. I drink my pasteurized
milk.
Unknown: It doesn't seem like
it. I'll set okay. We reached
out to a few raw milk groups.
And they say that the customers
have been asking a lot of
questions, but demand seems to
be holding steady.
How popular is raw milk anyway?
Like I don't think I have ever
tasted it. Yeah.
Adam Curry: She's never tasted
raw milk this woman and she's a
reporter and she's reporting on
the story. Isn't that something
like you? You'd want to do that?
I mean, we've reported on
Adderall. Why? Because I've
tried it. Vyvanse tried it.
Tried everything. I mean, we
want to know about LSD. We go to
John C. Dvorak. we've all tried
it. We're real reporters. I've
I've never had raw milk Harmer.
Fran
Unknown: is raw milk anyway,
like, I don't think I have ever
tasted it. Yeah,
well, this not actually was
John C Dvorak: stopped stopped
by the left. She doesn't think
she's ever tasted it. Does she
not even know what she's up to
on a day to day basis? And she's
drinking stuff? I don't know. I
remember. Hammered
Adam Curry: man. I don't
remember what it was. Anyway,
Unknown: like, I don't think I
have ever tasted it.
Yeah, well, there's not actually
a lot of raw milk drinkers. less
than 2% of the adult population
in the US, according to an FDA
study from a couple of years ago
know
John C Dvorak: what it is 6
million people,
Adam Curry: these women, they
drink soy milk and nuts. That's
why
John C Dvorak: they drink nuts.
Almond milk, yes, that's the
muck.
Unknown: But the ones who do
drink it are very passionate
about it. And they usually fall
into two camps. So there's the
Trump voters original raw milk
supporters who've been around
for decades, they've long wanted
access to local healthy food.
And more recently, movement has
picked up people that want less
government regulation, food
freedom. So hopefully we've
watched this industry for a long
time say that this food freedom
was boosted by COVID When
distrust of the government and
government scientists really
grew Oh,
Adam Curry: there it is food
freedom they must be Republicans
food freedom, trust of the
science dog. Imagine that food
freedom. And I'm looking at the
trolls and the trolls have good
points as always, but you have
to think that the government
wants to kill you and weaken
your immune system. If only it
were that easy. What John said
is correct. They are captured
they are working for industry
industry says we can't have this
we need to sell our pasteurized
milk or nuts that products that
that is what you can. These are
big lobbies. So that's why they
get these reports put out and
get em they're clearly feeding
the news media wait until you
hear my CBS clips.
John C Dvorak: And by the way, I
want to mention this is about a
15 minute report blasting raw
milk I just shipped out a bunch
about five six minutes of it
Adam Curry: you have chipped
Well my friend. A chipping away.
John C Dvorak: What about was
what clip for? Yeah, where are
you filming clip now? We're
Adam Curry: on five now we're on
five ready? Fine.
Unknown: What about testing? I
mean, it sounds like there's all
this fear and people are saying
no, that's just speculation. But
it seems like knowing whether
there is actually the virus
inside the raw milk supply would
help clear this up. So Chiara,
what do we know? Why does
Adam Curry: she keep laughing
about it?
John C Dvorak: I don't know.
It's weird. It's
Adam Curry: these people, these
Republicans is Trump voters than
tricking the drinking bird flu
virus.
Unknown: You're right. It would
really help to know if and how
much virus is out there in the
virus supply being sold now to
people
Adam Curry: how much virus is
being sold to people? Wow. NPR
needs to be shut down. In fact,
it
John C Dvorak: does need to be
shut down. It would kind of hurt
our show. But it needs to be
shut down.
Unknown: But testing doesn't
seem to be happening regularly.
And that data is really hard to
come by. That's why we tried to
find our own. But when I brought
raw milk that I bought from
those for Texas farms to one of
the few labs authorized by the
USDA to test milk for bird flu,
the lab insisted on calling each
of the four farms first for
permission. Though the USDA has
confirmed the agency doesn't
require permission from farms to
perform the test. None of the
farms gave the lab permission to
run the tests. They told the lab
they were aware of what a non
negative result would do for
their business. So the lab
refused to test our samples.
Adam Curry: Oh, that's
suspicious. A non negative non
negative test that could be bad
for us. Oh, we
John C Dvorak: don't. Okay. Now,
I as a lab rat in my Yes. A
younger day. Your day? Yeah. I
don't believe this.
Adam Curry: That they wouldn't
test it. I don't believe it
either. I think that farms that
the ranchers don't want to test
it like get good,
John C Dvorak: I'm sure. Reg,
but so you go to the suppose it
USDA approval, go to a different
lab. There are labs that can
test for this. I was in about I
was thinking about this, what
was going on here? And they sent
her excuses. Well, you know,
they couldn't do it. She's a
reporter working for NPR. She
has a budget, they went to the
lab, this my guess, okay, they
went to the lab and they say,
yeah, we can test for this. It's
going to cost you $1,500 a test.
Or 2500. These are not going to
be achieved test to test for a
bird flew in raw milk from an
official lab that gets
government money. Yeah, yeah,
yeah. They're gonna say, yeah,
here's, it's gonna cost you 6500
bucks to do these tests, or more
or more. And she says, I haven't
got a budget for that. And they
only gave me $500. And
Adam Curry: we can help you with
advertising, underwriting,
whatever you want to call it as
down is down. So we don't have
the money for it. Yes.
John C Dvorak: So. So she comes
up with this cock and bull story
to get out of the fact that she
didn't have the cash or they
didn't have the resources to do
these tests. The
Adam Curry: standard tests have
25 cycles, PCR, you know, that's
part that's 500 bucks, but you
really want the 45 cycle, don't
you? Yeah, that's gonna cost you
extra.
John C Dvorak: Well, beyond
that, because they have to be
equipted it just, it's, it's not
like testing for sodium in in
cereal. It's not like a
potassium test. It's not like a
simple test. Bird flu virus.
This is an inexpensive test, no
matter how you're going to look
at it. So she just dropped the
ball on this and they weren't
they couldn't you know, the way
you would have done it if you'd
done it right. So you know, you
you would you like some free
publicity for this lab. You
know, we'll give you a big write
up and we'll get you a promote
you and if you just do the damn
test
Adam Curry: for free, hey, it's
good for your exposure. It's
good for your for your brand.
It's good for your brand. It's
good for your brand if we do
that,
John C Dvorak: so she doesn't
get the test done and the whole
thing falls through so that so
the whole reason for this
report, which began if you
listened to beginning was to
grab some raw milk from does
Texas that test ne'er do wells?
Yeah. and test it and she
couldn't get that job done. So
this continues on with a little
discussion. And then it ends
with this clip, which is the eye
roller clip that just is like
oh, okay, let's just make stuff
up and try to frighten the
public. If
Unknown: drinking milk with a
virus is an easy way for people
to get infected banned. There
are other worries like what
Chiara
John C Dvorak: like what?
Adam Curry: Like, you gotta have
the rustle of the paper. She
turns the page on the script,
like what Kiara did,
Unknown: and there are other
worries
like what Chiara so
the worry is that influenza
viruses from two different
species like a human and a bird
species, in fact, one person at
the same time, a new kind of
virus could be created, that
would be more contagious. People
that could lead to a pandemic
animals the flu spreads to and
the more people It spreads to
the greater the chances that
that could happen. That's why
even though the official
assessment is that the risks The
public is low. Federal health
officials are urging people to
be cautious and not drink raw
milk. So
Adam Curry: we're back to the
wet market and Wuhan, is that
what this is basically, but they
are they trying to remind us
that that actually happened
somehow that you eat the
infected animal and then you get
the pathogen because that's what
it sounds like they're trying to
do.
John C Dvorak: They don't know
what they're this is a bit
flailing. This is a terrible
report. And all it is is don't
drink raw milk and nobody who
drinks raw milk is going to
listen to them because they
usually have a trusted dairy
that they just did this the
United randomly drinking it and
you just drinking from one
source usually that you can
trust and there's only a few of
them and because there's too
much work to make the stuff to
be honest about it. And and
they're just trying to dissuade
everyone it this is a piss poor
job of FOMO and this is going to
continue I don't know what
they're doing going getting
nowhere with this now.
Adam Curry: No, they are not now
they have a new tactic. And
that's we will witness that in
the clips from CBS. But I want
to take a little detour. It's
almost like an entre mom or no
what's what's in the in the
middle of the meal. What do you
call that?
John C Dvorak: A prosperity
Andhra Mama?
Adam Curry: Oh, that's the entre
motto the entrepreneurs before
you eat? No, no, no.
John C Dvorak: That's the
aperitif. Oh, oh, yes, I'm
Adam Curry: sorry, the entre Ma,
a little entre MA from Bitcoin.
Bobby, who was interrogated by
Ben Shapiro, fast talking spesa
six gun in the West Ben Shapiro.
Then he turned it into a
campaign ad. But it was quite
good in this context, because
Bitcoin Bobby, the OP is telling
us how to drain the swamp of
exactly this problem. Every
single agency and the the
agencies are part of the
executive branch. Are they not?
Am I Yes. Okay. So this is they
should be listening to the
president, the president should
be the one who is in charge of
them. And he explains in this
clip, it's 145, a little longer
than I'd like, but it's good. He
explains what the swamp is, the
how its captured, why Trump
couldn't drain it. And then what
he would do if he was president,
Unknown: what do you do about
the size and scope of the
executive branch is completely
unwieldy. You have enormous
numbers of people who are
supposedly experts in their
particular field. How do you
clean that out?
You do one agency at a time and
I've sued almost all these
agencies. I've sued NIH, CDC,
FDA, EPA, the USDA multiple
times, you know, it didn't start
out corrupted. It started out
idealistic. I started out models
for the rest of the world, I
started out serving the public
interest. And they didn't always
do that perfectly, because
bureaucracies make mistakes. But
you can restore those cultures,
you stop the profits, the
hearings, FDA gets almost 50% of
its budget from the
pharmaceutical companies. Of
course, that's not going to work
and I hate scientists shouldn't
be able to collect royalties, we
have to stop the revolving doors
and put corporate capture on
steroids. In these agencies,
there are individuals at high
levels who have corrupted them.
And I'm not just talking about
the agencies, but also the CIA.
I had dinner with Mike Pompeo
about four months ago. And he
said to me, my one biggest
regret life is that I didn't
clean up the CIA when I had a
chance I was running it and he's
at erschien entire upper echelon
of that agency are made up of
individuals who do not believe
in the democratic institutions
of the United States of America,
the upper echelons are
controlled by the military
industrial complex and people
who would do its bidding. When
we sued Monsanto. We got
discovery documents that showed
that the head of the pesticide
division at EPA for over a
decade was taking his orders
from the highest officials of
Monsanto to make sure no study
got done that would you look at
the links between glyphosate and
cancer, I can tell you who those
individuals are at CDC collied
Boyle, Frank De Stefano, I know
the names because I've dealt
with them. I know who has to be
moved. President Trump wanted to
do this, President Trump came
and say I'm going to drain the
swamp, but he didn't know how to
do it. You have individuals who
are capable of committing a
civil disobedience that will
turn off the lights somewhere
that will stop the sewage
treatment plant will flood the
streets, and that will embarrass
the president. So they tiptoe
around these agencies, and they
never do anything about it
because they don't know how to
do it, but I know how I know
exactly what to do.
Adam Curry: So there it is. He
spells it out very, very clearly
and that mainly the you know,
these these, they're terrorists,
these these agency people
because they'll turn out the
lights, they'll let raw sewage
seep in the streets of Lebanon.
And they will they will so now
we come to CBS CIA broadcasting
systems and they have yes they
have raw milk on the radar but
really This is going to
somewhere else which I have
uncovered. And we shall listen
to a couple of these clips with
America's other favorite doctor
also not a veterinarian. Dr.
Celine gounder. Wait, isn't she
the woman who's whose husband
died from the VAX?
Unknown: I think she has. Yes.
Yeah. So yeah, so
Adam Curry: she should know
better. But
Unknown: okay, as bird flu
spreads among cows in the US,
the CDC is planning to publicly
post that on the second.
John C Dvorak: They start off
with that premise. Oh, yeah.
There is not a cow in the US
that has bird flu, or
Adam Curry: bird flu. For bird
flu. Which is your axolotls.
Interesting bird flu.
John C Dvorak: Bird flu. By
Adam Curry: the way, it was a
moose boosh is what I was
thinking of before the meal.
John C Dvorak: Oh, the amuse
bush. Yes.
Adam Curry: amused. Yeah,
John C Dvorak: that's a little.
That is a tie for people out
there. Here's us.
Adam Curry: Here's how it goes.
Here's how it goes. Chef has
prepared something special for
you.
John C Dvorak: It's using a
spoon with a gabagool line. And
they say here and explain what
it is. The goal is
Adam Curry: a spoon with a gob
of goo and an animal like a nut
like a blanket. Like
John C Dvorak: Like, like a
pistachio. On top of the gob of
goo.
Adam Curry: mousse goo. We have
an image and
John C Dvorak: we bring it out.
And they talk about I was at
this dinner at Charlie Trotter's
once where who's Charlie
Trotter? Charlie Trotter is one
of the greatest chefs the United
States ever saw. But he died
recently. To your other home
sorry, but he I went to his you
know, I met the guy before
because he was on the West Coast
doing some something I was at.
But he I went to I always wanted
to go to his restaurant was one
of the best was the top
restaurant Chicago at the time.
So I go out there. I'm having
dinner with my publisher and
we're talking trying to talk
about business. And his Joker
just keeps coming over. He says
Oh, Mr. Trotter would like you.
Oh, Mr. Trotter, Mr. Trotter,
and by the third time he said,
you know we don't give a shit
about Mr. Trotter go back and
let us talk.
Adam Curry: It's also not an
order of net net. That's
something different. By the way,
Tina show borders are outside of
the meal. Tina, this French Tina
showed me something on Instagram
one of our friends she posted we
have Harry Corvair our first
crop is called green beans.
They're all right back to the
bird flow.
Unknown: As bird flu spreads
among cows in the US.
Adam Curry: The premise here
right is just it's so misleading
CDC is
John C Dvorak: premise is
totally misleading yet that is a
right from the get go. This is a
false report. Fake
Adam Curry: news is fake news.
John C Dvorak: It's fake news,
fake news.
Adam Curry: I talked to ranchers
ranchers. Today business is no
bird flu.
Unknown: It's the CDC is
planning to publicly post data
on the specific influenza virus
found in wastewater. Bird flu is
a sub type of influenza A
Adam Curry: Okay, now we're
getting somewhere. Bird flu is a
subtype of influenza A sounds
like something I could catch.
Unknown: It's been reported in
dozens of towns across nine
states. There's also been at
least two human cases, agencies,
it has identified the virus at
multiple wastewater sites. You
may remember wastewater testing
played a crucial role in
detecting COVID-19 during the
pandemic. Yeah,
Adam Curry: let's No, no, it did
not. This is a lie. There's a
lot there was it was sketchy at
best. Everybody knew it. The
company that was doing the
wastewater testing went out of
business. Somehow Google got
some of this business. We have
wastewater aficionados in our
producing audience. Yes, we do
quite a few. And you know, and
they're all it's all using PCR
and you can do whatever you
want. Spin it up. Oh, there's
aids in the water. Oh, there's
there's cholera. Oh, what? It's
all there. The world the ghosts
of everything.
John C Dvorak: So we have two to
three lies already on the CBS
report right from the get go. We
haven't even gotten to the juice
yet. Dr.
Unknown: Celine gounder, CBS
News, medical contributor and
editor at large for public
health at K FF joins me now. So
Dr. What does it mean that
they're doing this kind of
testing is are they being extra
careful? Because they learned
something from COVID about early
detection? Or is there something
particular going on here? Well,
so
this is a new tool that we have
to help monitor and no,
Adam Curry: I thought it was in
use during COVID. You can't even
get your own story straight.
Now. It's a new tool. It's not
an accurate two. By the way, we
predicted they would do this we
would predict they will be right
down to the house. And they'll
be like, okay, someone's pooping
bird flew in there. Lock them up
like man like Man,
Unknown: this is a new tool that
we have to help monitor
infectious disease outbreaks.
It's not the only tool and there
are some limitations here. Oh,
yeah. COVID was really just an
infection of people, at least in
the United States. With the bird
flu as the name implies, it's
not Not just humans, right? So
you have birds who are infected
John C Dvorak: not just humans,
not just humans. What? Yeah, you
know, this is I believe this is
John Dickerson does giving this
report by by his voice, and I'm
not sure he should be ashamed of
himself. He's one of the top
producer, writer reporters at
CBS. But you
Adam Curry: have to understand
fake news makes all the money
real news makes no money. Case
in point this podcast
Unknown: COVID was really just
an infection of people, at least
in the United States. With the
bird flu as the name implies,
it's not just humans, right? So
you have birds who are infected
cows were infected. And so you
have to look at wastewater is
really telling you because the
waste could be coming from
domesticated animals, wild
animals, milk being dumped into
the wastewater, humans and rural
areas, you have septic systems,
so it may not even be picking up
some of the waste there. Okay.
Adam Curry: Oh, wow. Okay, so
John C Dvorak: you have a septic
system and it's not going into
the wastewater. How about that?
Yeah, we need to test rural
areas. We need Hicks.
Adam Curry: I need to, I need to
stick my dipstick into your
septic tank. Be my guest. Okay,
we continue.
Unknown: So now 70 I understand
dairy farm workers are being
monitored mean, they're being
monitored just to see if
something happens or what's the
status of those? Yeah,
Adam Curry: okay. 70 or so
somewhere. Some rancher went,
okay. All right. So you can
stick the stick the the cotton
swab, and let's see if we got
bird flu.
Unknown: So these are people
who've been exposed right to
expose
Adam Curry: right exposed.
John C Dvorak: So as they get
exposed,
Adam Curry: oh, wait for
Unknown: these are people who've
been exposed right to right
animals that have had h h five
and one infection. And so then
the question is, have they or
are they developing symptoms?
Some of the common symptoms we
know of are conjunctivitis. This
pinkeye you
John C Dvorak: gotta stop it
again.
Adam Curry: Here it is. The
symptoms.
John C Dvorak: Yeah.
conjunctivitis. pinkeye. He
says, they these are animals
cows that have been infected.
Yes. Infected. What evidence? Do
we have that one cow even one
cow has been infected?
Adam Curry: Are you questioning
the CBS the Tiffany networks,
news? dissemination? I
John C Dvorak: just want to know
what what cow or herd has been
infected. They have some some
some traces of bird flu in the
middle of milk. Yes. But that
doesn't mean that cows infected
doesn't mean anything.
Adam Curry: No, and that
ranchers won't even let them
onto their property. So I don't
blame them. I
John C Dvorak: think they should
shoot them. Amen.
Unknown: animals that have had H
h5 and one infection. And so
then the question is, have they
or are they developing symptoms?
Some of the common symptoms we
know of are conjunctivitis, this
pinkeye Oh,
Adam Curry: no. pinkeye Wow, you
can get pinkeye from wiping
wrong and not washing your
hands. I mean, come on,
Unknown: which was in the Texas
case that was recently reported.
We Oh, we oh,
Adam Curry: do due to breaking
news. We have a rancher with
pinkeye. A rancher with pinkeye
Oh, no, not a rancher with
pinkeye. That is possibly any
ranch who doesn't get his foot
half trampled? Or, you know,
there's it's very dangerous
work, but oh pinkeye? Oh, yes.
Stop the presses, which was
Unknown: in the Texas case that
was recently reported. We are
hearing many reports of other
dairy farm workers with similar
symptoms haven't all been
tested. So we are waiting for a
bit more information on some of
those cases as well. And I'd
Adam Curry: love to know about
the tests because I'm pretty
sure the test is another PCR
bullcrap thing. PCR should not
be used to diagnose any pathogen
ever for any reason, according
to the inventor, Carrie Mullins
of the PCR test,
Unknown: and how would they get
it? If
Adam Curry: Oh, how do you get
it? How are you ready? Jeff,
this
Unknown: is a great question on
this? No, it's a great question.
John C Dvorak: It's a great
question. And how would they get
it if they test? Well, this is a
Unknown: great question. And
this is why we need more data.
You know, wastewater is not the
answer all the kinds of
questions we have and we need
more data. Jim, some of what
needs to be done is testing of
the farm workers figuring out
how they were exposed to was it
through handling of milk or
milking equipment? Is it maybe
irresolution or socialization of
the milk or virus into the air?
So you're getting into your eyes
that way? Is it breathing it in?
We don't entirely know for sure
which of those Oh, no, it could
be all of them. No,
Adam Curry: we know nothing. But
now Now they're gonna take a
little sidestep back to your
let's not drink raw milk.
Because it's, I mean, it is so
bad. They have a descriptor for
it, which is just fascinating.
Raw milk again. You probably
still regularly drink raw milk.
We're all milk Don't you think
you're a raw milk drinker? Or
going on regular basis? Do you
get it from then on our favorite
dairy
John C Dvorak: in Washington
State? That is very nuts. Oh,
guys. Run by cracked by there's
also rel Raj is a raw milk
dairy. He's a crackpot, believe
me. He's like a clean freak.
It's just like unbelievable.
There is a raw milk dairy that
in California which actually did
it I can't remember the name of
them. I haven't every so often.
It's better tasting than the
Washington stuff is really good
isn't probably like well now you
have now you're
Adam Curry: not telling me that
you transport this across state
lines, do you? Yeah. Oh, no. No
Mimi could get arrested if she
does that.
John C Dvorak: No, it's not a
bug.
Adam Curry: So it's in by the
way, they
John C Dvorak: closed the
inspection stations.
Adam Curry: Now they did. I
John C Dvorak: guess she's
always complaining about you
know, really
Adam Curry: wants to be
inspected.
John C Dvorak: Okay, yeah, of
course. She's a woman. Oh, she
Adam Curry: listens to the show.
Careful. Alright, let's hear how
bad this raw which I love as I
said, what the meat mafia boys
brought to my house. Nice big
jug of it was it was like I'm
like, Oh my god. This is like
eggnog. It's so good. So tasty.
And does
Unknown: it matter whether it's
pre or post pasteurized? Yes.
So pasteurized milk.
Adam Curry: Because it's funny
for some reason.
John C Dvorak: Why is that
funny?
Adam Curry: I don't know John.
This because the word
pasteurized it tickled her ears.
Unknown: So pasteurized milk
really does a very good job of
killing bacteria and viruses.
This is why Louis Pasteur back
in the 1800s came up with
pasteurization things back then.
Adam Curry: That's a lie. I
looked it up Louis Pasteur came
up with pasteurization to
pasteurize wine as far as I can
find out you might know more
about that than I do.
John C Dvorak: Who I never
thought about looking this into
this. Yeah, he was I did. I was
doing some research and one of
our producers sent me a note
saying Marie Antoinette never
said Let them eat bread cake.
Alright, let them eat cake. She
said what she never said it. It
was it was it was it was the it
was the mainstream media of the
time. That is attributed to her
when it when it can be
documented that was said by
another famous woman in France.
When Marie Antoinette was nine
years old, they can document it.
And it was never Marie
Antoinette. She was falsely
accused of by the mainstream
media and their head got chopped
off. Thank you to meet them. 5am
So
Adam Curry: the wait a minute,
do you? Oh, no.
John C Dvorak: I'll get this.
I'll get this Lincoln's being
put in the show notes. Good
story.
Adam Curry: This, this is
troubling to me. So so the M
five M lied about her. Yeah,
right. And then and her head is
gone.
John C Dvorak: They chopped her.
That's what you were doing.
Lining up the clip via second
took a little longer than
normal. So is Kuba.
Adam Curry: Libra also not true.
You know what the story behind
Koopa Libra is?
John C Dvorak: I forgot what
them so the Libra
Adam Curry: is the glass that
they put the ice cream in.
There. It's that qu that coupe
that that nice little rounded
glass. Yeah, supposedly, that
was exactly Marie Antoinette's
breast size.
John C Dvorak: Could be right,
sure. That's bogus too. I
Adam Curry: could be wrong. I
could be wrong. All right back
to a descriptor for raw milk.
Remember, Louis Pasteur did not
invent this to pasteurized milk
because those people were
drinking raw milk and they loved
it bacteria
Unknown: and viruses This is why
Louis Pasteur back in the 1800s
came up with pasteurization
because back then, people would
get sick raw milk. Think of it
as raw sewage. It's heavily
Adam Curry: raw milk. Think of
it as raw sewage. You're
drinking natural
John C Dvorak: exudation from a
mammal milk. Women deliver to I
might add the sewage is raw
sewage to our sewage. Oh, that's
that's a fabulous report. It's
not
Unknown: done. Raw milk. Think
of it as raw sewage. It's
heavily fecal contaminated.
Think about you know where the
cows you know, they're their
faces, aren't you?
Adam Curry: Well, hold on a
second. Now she thinks that the
cows poop out of their utters or
does she think the milk comes
out of the anus? What is she
saying to me here? Think she
says
John C Dvorak: would she say one
of the to think about whereas it
says if Kevin Tammany was fecal
material. Yes. Well,
Adam Curry: the otters are
nowhere near the fecal material.
Saline Dr. Celine? Is she
confused with the what is she
confused by this is very odd
John C Dvorak: chicken and egg
and egg is invented and poops
and the same poop.
Adam Curry: What does that the
Klava the color the service
Cousteau clever
Unknown: people would get sick
raw milk. Think of it as raw
sewage. It's have cloak
Adam Curry: clout. cloaca cloaca
chlobo aka cloaca Thank you
trolls are on point today
alright let's go heavily
Unknown: vehicle contaminated
think about you know where the
cows you know their their feces
are you know this is not clean
you really want to be drinking
pasteurized
Adam Curry: not clean the others
are super clean
Unknown: and I'm gonna now I'm
really not going near any
pasteurized unpasteurized milk
Adam Curry: so he's so grossed
out and so ignorant that he's
like oh man, oh those otters are
dirty they're filled with poop.
Wow, this is an undisputed clip
John C Dvorak: for the day for
the bay. No, this
Adam Curry: clip of the day is
for the clip custodian. God for
me, yeah, well, the clip
custodians on him. This
John C Dvorak: is CBS CBS
Unknown: last one. How concerned
should the regular person
watching here who isn't hasn't
been on the farm recently.
Adam Curry: If you haven't been
on a farm recently go out, go to
a farm shake your ranchers hand
learn about where the other is.
Unknown: So if you're not having
direct contact with poultry or
dairy cattle, those are the two
types of animals that have been
infected in the United States.
If you're not drinking
unpasteurized milk or raw milk,
your risk as a member of the
general public is pretty low.
Right? Now. What we're pretty
low,
John C Dvorak: wait a minute,
this is not zero. It's just
pretty low, pretty low. No,
that's
Adam Curry: a percentage your
favorite, your favorite
percentage is pretty low. It's
you know, it's low, pretty low.
Right
Unknown: now, what we're
concerned about is if this
continues to replicate and
mutate and evolve, whether it's
in mammals or humans, like dairy
farm workers, that's when
there's a risk of evolving and
adapting to humans and Person to
Person spread back to
Adam Curry: the wet market
jumps.
John C Dvorak: We've all which
doesn't make sense now, but a
deep and
Adam Curry: then he says, Oh, it
jumps it jumped. This is the wet
market story that were that we
were supposed to keep believing.
But Fauci covered it up wrong.
And so we figured it out and
like, lab, okay, but no wet
mark. wet market is we're back
to wet markets. Now. That's when
Unknown: there's a risk of
evolving and adapting to humans
and Person to Person spread, and
it jumps. And that's and that's
what, that's what can cause a
pandemic. So it may not be
today,
Adam Curry: oh pangolin. But
Unknown: say within the next 10
years, if we allow this kind of
thing to keep going. That's what
we're worried about. And
by that it's too late. If you
haven't learned how to thank you
so much for being here. I've
Adam Curry: learned how to how
to I don't know if you haven't
learned how to just learn how to
John C Dvorak: if you haven't
learned how to and then he
stopped Yes.
Adam Curry: Yes. How to Lie, how
to live for your for living. So
a couple of articles I have here
first of all, here's the
headline. There's bird flu in US
dairy cows to produce raw milk
drinkers aren't deterred. Since
March 25, when the bird flu
virus was confirmed in US cattle
that's lactating mammals. For
the first time, weekly sales of
raw cow's milk have ticked up
21% Oh,
John C Dvorak: no. Get it while
you can. According to Nielsen
IQ. That could be the reason
that Mimi says she went to the
other day when the story started
to break. She went to sunny
farms, which is the store that
carries with you can go to the
dairy and just buy it there. But
you can buy it from the store.
It was all gone. All the raw
milk was sold out.
Adam Curry: You know why?
Because people like oh, they're
coming for our raw milk. Let's
go buy it. We want it we want as
much as we can get because we're
healthy human beings. We're
healthy human beings. And while
it seems like they all want us
dead, they don't it's just all
CAPTCHA I'm sure this whole
report was sponsored by, you
know, by the nuts app industry.
Anyway, there is that SAP is the
big moneymaker. There is
something else happening here.
And it is a comes under the
recently announced climate smart
commodities program. The USDA,
same people, same people here
who are saying mom can't have
your raw milk have appropriated
$3.1 billion to 145 new private
climate smart projects ranging
from carbon sequestration to
climate smart meat. Are you
following me here? This is this
is what they're doing. And so
these ranchers these farmers,
there's a whole dashboard by
state if you want by state of
projects, each one is yours 3
million here 4 million their
climate smart scaling mechanisms
for Regenerative farming. You
want money you want money? You
just go to this dashboard here.
Let's see what what can I get in
Texas? I can get farmers guiding
farmers tour Climate Smart
Agriculture. Oh, this is good.
This is for black and indigenous
producers, huh? A lot of
universities grabbing this money
here 5 million for Florida a&m
For National Black food and
Justice Alliance. Are you
kidding me now? Climate
Resilience for the farm and
market development economically
viable low carbon and climate
smart practices for soybean
farming. This is part of the
climate, the global climate
change scam. And they're buying
everybody off. And what
eventually happens is the small
producers, the small producers
have no chance that just left
with no chance. They're they're
taken down into complete
oblivion. There's no market
access for people who want these
products. And so now we have to
go out and stand guard at Cole's
farm. So in case the the FDA,
USDA and CDC want to come and
test him and his cows. And then
I got this note from Captain
Ben. He says, you know, you've
been doing a great job
enlightening us about what's
going on in the beef and dairy
industry. I see some very
interesting coincidences in the
Gulf of Mexico commercial reef
fishery that are similar to the
cattle industry. So he's talking
reef fish include grouper,
snapper, tile, fish, etc. In the
last 25 years, the National
Marine Fishery Service has
become more and more
restrictive. And the
participation of regulation of
the Fisheries says My theory is
the same thing. They're
collapsing the reef fishery
industry, so the small time
players will just get out, and
only a few large corporations
own and control the whole thing.
Yeah, he says that if you look
at the reality show, ice cold
catch. He says you'll see a
large portion of the North
Atlantic cod is owned and caught
by two large long line boats
that are owned by corporations.
On the other hand, fellow
commercial fishermen say Oh,
this is the regulations are
being imposed so that it'll all
be imported. This is the same
thing, industry, they control so
much with the captured
regulatory agencies. And me, you
work at the seat, you work at a
USDA or the FDA, and then you're
done working there, you've done
your job, you've helped out the
nut SAP industry, you've helped
out the salmon farms, and then
you leave and then you go take a
million dollar job over there.
This is what needs to stop. And
it's all under the climate
change, climate change. And
that's where we're at, like
climate change is the bane of
our existence. Is even Jordan
Peterson we don't play enough
Jordan Peterson mainly because
the jackets hurt my eyes. Stop
with the jackets Jordan there
was going on with those jackets
jackets are ridiculous. They're
not a statement. They're creepy.
It's almost as creepy as King
Charles is portrait
John C Dvorak: who got him into
doing that because it's like it
was a couple of ex basketball
players that were this kind of
outfit. You
Adam Curry: know, Bill Cosby had
sweaters remember that? You
always had sweaters. It was
actually a Dutch lady who made
those sweaters for him. They
were Elaine. He was oh look at
my sweaters. And what happened
to you? Bill Cosby look at where
the sweaters Got you.
John C Dvorak: Got nothing to do
with it? No, it
Adam Curry: has nothing to do
with it. I like it. I like it.
So now Jordan Peterson, of
course says that this is a huge
scam. And here's a little clip
of him talking about it. This is
particularly about the carbon
dioxide, not carbon, not stuff
that comes out. By the way.
stuff that comes out of the
exhaust of your car is carbon
monoxide. Am I correct? A
John C Dvorak: lot of carbon
dioxide comes out. Well, we
Unknown: need more. We're
essentially in a carbon. I'm
sorry.
John C Dvorak: I'm gonna say a
carbon monoxide does come out of
the tailpipe. Nitrous, various
nitrogen, nitrogen oxides. Those
are taken up by the catalytic
catalytic converter.
Adam Curry: Exactly. No, no, no,
no, we need more carbon dioxide
twice as much as we have today.
We're
Unknown: essentially in a carbon
dioxide drought by historical
standards. So if you look at the
proportion of carbon dioxide in
the atmosphere over the last
number of hundreds of millions
of years, like a pretty whopping
timeframe, we're at a very, very
low level. We dropped to about
350 parts per million by say
1850, something like that plants
start to die at 250. Right,
because they need carbon
dioxide. So we were almost at
the point where the plants were
going to start to die. That's
how low the carbon dioxide
levels are now they have been
increasing. Why? Well some of
that Probably manmade, you know,
it's not it's not exactly
settled, but we could give the
devil his due and say some of
that's manmade. Okay, so now
we're up to something in the
low, four hundreds. And that's
been increasing, and perhaps
because of industrial output. So
what's been the major
consequence? The major
consequences that the planet is
20% greener than it was in the
year 2,020%. This is NASA Data.
No one disputes this, by the
way, the satellite imagery is
absolutely clear. 20% greener,
an area the size of the
continental US as green since
the year 2000. So the whole
planet is 20% greener, that's
the big effect crops yield, crop
yield has gone up 13% Right.
Okay. Where's the planet getting
greener? Because you heard
climate, global warming, the
deserts are going to grow well,
then it wasn't global warming,
because that turned out to be a
scam. Then it was climate
change. The deserts are going to
grow. It's like no, the deserts
are shrinking. The deserts are
shrinking because the planet is
greening because there's more
carbon dioxide. Now
Adam Curry: I liked what he said
here because it comes right back
around to the agencies. If you
have a deficiency of carbon
dioxide Of course we need
Monsanto and glyphosate and all
these things to improve your
crop yield. We can't have that
happening naturally buy more
carbon dioxide in the
atmosphere. No, that means we
start to lose money. This is the
scam it's a scam.
John C Dvorak: What Yeah, yeah,
start to lose money
Adam Curry: Yeah, that's what
it's all about. Who cares if it
turns the frogs gay? And with
that I'd like to thank you for
your courage say in the morning
to the man who put the sea in
the code for comrades say hello
to my friend on the other end
the One Only Mr. John
John C Dvorak: well in the
morning to you Mr. Abrupt
through the millennial shift,
same boots on the ground feet
near subs in the water. It all
the dames knights out there in
the
Adam Curry: morning to the
trolls and the troll room. I am
getting ready to count you they
scurried off. Yeah, I'm keeping
us on the schedule man. It's 117
We're into the show it's time
you know it's time for it was a
natural break a natural break as
well. Is an unnatural breaking.
Was it a wiry natural break? I
think it was perfect. Perfect.
Perfect Natural break. Kind of
the trolls we have 18 120 Trolls
with us today that is down from
our last Thursday show we had
1943 So we've lost some along
the way no doubt because they
drank raw milk and are now
dying. They have pink dead or
dead dead we got dead trolls if
you want to be a troll, and the
trolls have actually been quite
good today. They've they've been
posting stuff in French and you
know laughing along and you know
everyone agrees on this stuff.
Man, you can't get them to agree
on Israel and the Jews running
the world but you comes to
Melkite everyone's in agreement.
That's beautiful. If you want to
be a troll go to troll room.io
You can listen to our show live
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do it we do it live. Which by
the way is probably the biggest
problem with podcast today. Is
most of these podcasts are not
done live people take all the
soul out of them by recording
them and taking out all the crap
o's and memes and speeding it up
a little and chopping out
silences because you owe people
got no time. No, we are just
pure and raw. We're like we are
the raw milk of the raw milk of
podcasts. That's exactly what we
are the raw milk of podcasts and
it's good for you know, pink, I
hear Spotify you listen to
Spotify that'll give you pinkeye
so you go to troll room.io or
you use a modern podcast app
this is another thing where we
are forging the future making
sure that if you can't do you
think that you by the way, you
see that Spotify got a notice
from from the whole Music
Association industries saying
sorry, what Wait, Spotify got a
notice from the Okay, from the
from the from all the associate
the copyright holding
associations of music saying
check this up. BJU are hosting
music that is not licensed in
podcasts. So they didn't say
which ones, but they say you
have to remove them immediately.
So now Spotify is going to go
and start I guess with AI seeing
if there's any music in your
podcast, even if you've licensed
it, even if it's value for value
music, and they're gonna start
dropping you, your podcasts will
be dropped. It's gone by who? By
Spotify, they'll kick it off
their platform because they're
gonna get to
John C Dvorak: be on their
platform anyway.
Adam Curry: Well, we're not on
it, but You know people are
stupid. They're like they don't
listen to the Godfather I say
you don't want to be on Spotify
you know Rogan got his first 300
million from Spotify by not
being on Spotify. They said well
come on man. We'll pay you for
it and then he went on Spotify.
Anyway, podcast apps.com Get a
modern podcast that one that
won't be the platform because
the back end is podcast
index.org And that's being
distributed so even even if we
go away no one will be able to
take it away ever. We're fed a
fine it fed a fine another thing
we don't do is we don't take
native ads or any kind of you
know, any commercials from any
creepy corporations at all. None
never done it because that's
another thing. Boy you're
talking to get you're going
against the grain here, man.
You're talking about a
competitor man, you can't do
that Nana saw censorship
advertising is censorship. So we
John C Dvorak: Oh, whoa. That's
a new phrase. And I like it. Oh,
advertising is censorship.
Adam Curry: You've never heard
me say that. Have I not done no.
Yeah, I
John C Dvorak: don't remember
you saying and I would have
picked it up because it would go
right in the newsletter. Okay.
Adam Curry: And on hoodies over
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telling you boys gotta get on
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promote the more no agenda
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No. Instead we have adopted for
16 years now I think yeah, about
16 years maybe a little more the
value for value more we probably
didn't start calling it value
for value until 14 years ago.
And then that just stuck and
it's amazing how this concept is
spreading far and wide actually
have an M five M segment for
after after we talk about some
of our executive and Associate
Executive producers about how
they are losing out how it is
crumbling, how it is all falling
apart? No. We use value for
value. The whole world is
talking about value for value
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Adam Curry: I really Kate
voluntarily value for value you
heard it even the Germans are in
on it.
John C Dvorak: There's no German
translation for the for the
phrase no man.
Adam Curry: It's like no value
for value. No. No manly is
John C Dvorak: it this is like
an original phrase. It only has
to be spoken in English value
Adam Curry: for value Uber
Allah's man. That's how we roll.
So one enormous piece of value
for value. It's time talent and
treasure and this whole show was
built up of producers who
contribute to the show clip
custodian clip collector Dave
Ackerman all these people who
are helping us on that angle,
but then we have void zero with
technology keeping us running
and we got the the Art
Generator, we've got the meetup
servers, we've got the server
Tim code monkey people doing all
of this that's all valuable and
what our artists do as valuable
as well. They go to knowledge
and art generator.com They
upload art for us to choose
from. So we have fresh, funky,
fresh, beautiful art. Every
single show you see it pop up it
looks great when we post the bar
it looks great in newsletters
and also looks great over there
and no agenda shop.com Now we're
traditionalists. We'd like to do
some on special days, like
Mother's Day, we'd like to have
a Mother's Day presentation. And
there were several to choose
from but networks, networks
nailed it with no agenda movie
theater. And as I looked at
this, this aren't even because I
talked about the movie the
unsung hero, which is a great
Mother's Day movie. Hope you all
took your mom to go see it. As I
looked. It He even put in the
tasty pretzels that I had at the
movie theater, popcorn pretzels.
There's two people now if we
don't think it's a guy in his
mom, but probably a guy in his
bride who has a mom, which is
also
John C Dvorak: fair game,
obviously unless it's a
perverted picture. Well, it's
Adam Curry: networks you never
know he is one of those great
Dutch grandmasters so we got to
be careful but we appreciate
what networks did and we want to
I just logged into the Art
Generator All right. See the
artists do this on the fly live
while we're doing the show so we
can choose it right after we're
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stuff for for the show. Now.
comics
John C Dvorak: should mention by
the way, the one next to it mom
on the burning sun with the that
was it was available to us.
Adam Curry: What do you mean?
Yes, we discussed that the solar
flare mama.
John C Dvorak: I don't remember
it. Yeah, yeah. I
Adam Curry: said how about that
one? And you said no, I hate it.
John C Dvorak: i That's not
true. I'll tell you which one
you said that about. You did say
that about one of
Adam Curry: them. Which one?
Which one that I know it was
another one you wanted? Well,
stormy Trump wasn't no
John C Dvorak: he couldn't
really come. I did do this one
is the only real choice.
Adam Curry: I mean, comments.
Your blogger posted 5000 ai
generated buttons. Yeah, it was
challenge coin. Template. Comics
your blogger? No. It's just No,
I don't get it. Doesn't he see
it's not happy Mama was creepy
with the chocolates. What else
was there? Was there anything
else? There was?
John C Dvorak: Really no this
was the only piece that was
really good. That was usable
content. taunt me. Oh, Trump,
stormy Trump thing down there
where Douglas Harris did it we
see you know, don't do stuff
like that. No, no.
Adam Curry: And, you know, Bill
Walsh tried to do like kind of a
cheese cake. By the way. I think
I have a picture of my mom who
looked like that at the time
with her apron on in the
kitchen. She had that hair. And
like the 60s. Now it's very
Americana. But no, no, no, no.
There was anything else. I think
that was it. Taunton yielded
some flowers, which was always
good as a Hail Mary, but it's a
good one. By the way. Taunton,
Neil, another one of those great
Dutch grandmasters. So she she's
coming to the meetup on June
15th. And she sent me a picture
of the two of us from 30 almost
33 years ago. Wow. 1992
John C Dvorak: She has a longest
living crush on you have anyone
she's and
Adam Curry: she looks she looks
like she was 16 I think probably
wasn't. And, and she says she
has a scrapbook.
John C Dvorak: Oh my gosh, you
probably has an altar or thrown
pictures of
Adam Curry: you over if you mean
a shrine. I think a shrine
John C Dvorak: blew the joke up.
Adam Curry: I'm very excited to
see her scrapbook. I hope she
brings us she's no I'm a grown
ass woman. I'm not going to
bring yes you are. You're
bringing the scrapbook. We know
you have it. Bring it. So thank
you very much networks. And
thank you to all of our artists
for all the work you always do.
It is tremendously valuable to
us and to the show. And we
appreciate the work that all of
you do. We're gonna we're always
going to be honest that we're
always going to tell you exactly
what we think and and there you
go. So stop with the AI Comitia
blogger. Now for the treasure
portion we'd love to give thanks
to all of our producers, the
whole beauty of value for values
you can give whatever you want,
whatever the show is worth to
you at $5 may be a lot to you.
By the way if everyone gave $5
It's the pipe dream. But if
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You're right would be no
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with Kiernan Hennessy, who's in
Dublin, county, Dublin, Ireland,
Ireland $1,000 and Kieran Kieran
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We'll hit that we'll hit yet
with that later on with your
official title change. That's
John C Dvorak: the menisci Yes,
yeah. Say no more. Okay, well
then we move on to Allen fenced
in in Blaine Washington and he
tend to check in and a note and
you know why he can tell us the
note because
Adam Curry: it's on paper I was
like paper
John C Dvorak: for fourth with
the rights. Please find my
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fast track the knighthood nice.
I should be getting that
Ambassador shipped to Belize any
day, asking for a birthday
blessings for myself. And as I
approach 60 times around the
sun, I also asked you for
birthday blessings from my
smokin hot wife. And smart he
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Adam Curry: the fact he wrote in
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John C Dvorak: Joanie 615 And my
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one everybody Wow. Tall there on
the list, I guess so.
Adam Curry: I thought I thought
they were just tall but no, it's
all birthdays. Okay.
John C Dvorak: 616 50 currently
residing in New York. City
Brooklyn. She could go meet your
daughter Yeah. But don't hold
that against her thanks for all
you guys do to keep me sane I'll
be dropping my next donation in
a few months we hosted a meet up
recently at our Bistro, the
vault bistro and wine bar in
beautiful Blaine gateway to the
USA where I can still see
socialism from my Deck. A good
time was had by all still
waiting for you guys to show up
at our bistro where you will be
treated like the OG gangsta
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roundtable request stay tuned
thank you for your courage and
the best podcast in the universe
and for the best podcast in the
universe and put that in there.
Alan fist and in Blaine
Washington Thank
Adam Curry: you Alan we move on
to Dame Lisa from Foxborough,
Massachusetts. Lots of casinos
there. If I recall Foxborough
casino, also a piece of paper I
have the scan Adam and John
three, three 3.33 enclosed my
annual donation Thank you. See
as you encourage seeing as you
encourage the airing of
grievances. I will admit, I am
still a bit miffed that you did
not acknowledge my gift of
ruffles all dressed chips last
spring. I believe this to not be
true. I think we most definitely
discussed the box of ruffles all
dressed chips she sent you
John C Dvorak: said Most
definitely. I meant it.
Adam Curry: 100% However, she
says I'm trying to let that go.
Yes, it's called forgiveness.
John C Dvorak: I think that we
got to chips and they were so
gross. It was Yeah, we didn't
want to make her embarrass her.
Adam Curry: I think you may be
right. ruffles Oh my see
John C Dvorak: ruffles all
dressed chips it was like her I
believe there were a small bag
of potato chips that had every
imaginable spice and seasoning
all thrown into one to make a
mess. I believe that to be true.
I do believe
Adam Curry: yes well I see we
discussed ruffles chips on
episode 1064 And let me just
John C Dvorak: grab was probably
the so we did discuss them she
didn't hear it I
Adam Curry: think we did I'm
pretty sure we did. Yes. Anyway
anywho I'm trying to let that go
I know you must get a lot of
gifts and I'm more worried that
you will find an exit strategy
and leave me and my amygdala
stranded well that's yes keep up
the good work Dame Lisa of Amick
lake in five casters
John C Dvorak: in residences are
a legal scheme
Adam Curry: to give and you will
probably get points on every
deal points man will get point
John C Dvorak: Yeah, we get some
points.
Adam Curry: points on the deal.
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John C Dvorak: Oh, I am up with
sorry sir pursuit sir pursuit of
peace and tranquility another
another note and paper this is
great. Please find enclosed my
made donation of 33333 have Adam
would you kindly chip in a
penny? No,
Adam Curry: I've got one Hold on
It's it's in that small pocket
in my
John C Dvorak: in my gene he
will help me stay aligned with
the university accounting below
and he's got the accounting he's
got 4333 deaths but he doesn't
need a penny but he got
sincerely sir pursuit of peace
and tranquility in the lands of
the red clay and the cherry
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about winning an upgrade but
Adam Curry: gets an upgrade I
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John C Dvorak: Baron plus in
that a bike and or a
Adam Curry: hole I'm let me
scroll down the list something
Hold on a second title change
No, no, he didn't ask for
anything but
John C Dvorak: yeah, that's
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some we'll give it to him. Now
of course with great pleasure
get the penny
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John C Dvorak: John of Jupiter
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John C Dvorak: said, Yeah. Well,
yeah.
Adam Curry: He said, Steve sent
in a note he's in Kenosha,
Wisconsin. And what was his
donation amount here he sent us
to the RO ducks row ducks. Two
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one of our favorites. John.
Adam, thank you for your
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Adam Curry: How about that
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John C Dvorak: In Westbrook? Or
West Bank? I'm sorry, BC, BC BC
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It's been a crazy year for sure.
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moving karma as we finally move
into our permanent place after
living off the good graces of a
friend for sick. Wow, six
months. Wow, that is a good
friend. Thank you for your
courage. Michelle,
Adam Curry: that's a great
friend for sure. You've got
karma and And then we move over
to Eli the coffee guy I happen
to be drinking a gigawatt this
is still the Costa Rican dotata
zoo snapped up. Yeah, I love
that stuff man. I only drink it
on show days by the way because
otherwise Tina's like, calm
down. Calm down. I want to
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McKenzie. Okay, I will change
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Eli, the coffee guy.
John C Dvorak: They sent me some
of the new Rwanda Special
Edition.
Adam Curry: Ah, have you tried
it yet?
John C Dvorak: No, I just
finished the last grinding of
the last. I'm just going to
next.
Adam Curry: It's good stuff. I
gotta say. And it's just the
husband and wife would do this.
John C Dvorak: Right? Yes. Yeah.
As far as I can tell. Well, I'm
Dave Stacy.
Adam Curry: And they sent me a
beautiful note with my cans.
Because now I like the cans. I
hate the cans, man. Like the
cans, cans. I get all jacked
from the cans.
John C Dvorak: Well, that brings
us to Linda Lou patcon another
contributor to the show a
consistent one from Lakewood,
Colorado. Who wants jobs Carmen
she comes in always with $200
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Unknown: Go jobs, jobs and jobs
Adam Curry: for jobs. You know.
I saw that our resident racer
Ashlynn Speed Speed Racer who
has been has been doing a
dynamite job of promoting
gigwalk coffee and makers in the
loop edge so now she signed with
like some sports management
company.
John C Dvorak: Oh Good Good for
her. That's what she needs.
Well, you
Adam Curry: know what's gonna
happen there go all the
freebies. Yeah, before you know
what our logo is gonna be off
the car. Well, those guys those
guys then I know exactly what
you're saying. But you know
what? I'm okay with it because I
could not be happier for her.
She has winter written all her
name speed. She's she's gonna be
on the
John C Dvorak: agenda. Always
put a no agenda patch on the on
the on the outfit. Oh, you know,
we will get her management guys
won't be able to do anything
about that. Right?
Adam Curry: No agenda cowboy
hat. She always wears a cowboy
hat. Because now she's a Texas
girl. Yeah,
John C Dvorak: well, I said
North Carolina look at Yes,
exactly.
Adam Curry: Right. We're so
proud of her. Yeah, we want to
see people like her succeed. Go
on without us. Okay, we don't
need the logo. Just remember us.
remembers one
John C Dvorak: female Richard
Petty in the making who only
much
Adam Curry: better looking
richard petty man, he was kind
of harsh. Like the guy Thank
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Unknown: formula is this. We go
out. We get people in the mouth
John C Dvorak: shut us like to
discuss the Miss USA controversy
with a couple of NPR clips. Oh,
Adam Curry: good, because I
already brought it up that
something was going on. Right.
We talked about a few shows.
Yeah.
John C Dvorak: You mentioned it.
Yes. But this is like
something's going on.
Something's up. This is like a
classic example of NPR not being
able to twist the story to drop
the story. So it's
Adam Curry: to make it something
Trump did.
John C Dvorak: I think you may
have guessed it, but let's go.
Unknown: Now we turn to a
scandal that's shaking up the
beauty pageant world.
Adam Curry: Oh man. It's already
starting off great. The beauty
pageant world oh no
Unknown: Miss USA and Miss Teen
USA recently stepped down. The
organization that runs both of
these competitions is under
scrutiny. Now former Miss USA
Noelia Voight cited mental
health while the former Miss
Teen USA Illuma. Sophia
Srivastava pointed to a
misalignment of quote, personal
values within the organization.
For more insight on this, we're
joined here in studio by Amy
argot, singer, she's style
editor at the Washington Post
and the author of the book there
she was The Secret History of
Miss America. Amy, welcome.
Thank you for having me.
Amy. Just for starters, can you
briefly walk us through what we
know so far about these
resignations?
We haven't gotten a lot of
details, it seems as though both
the former Miss USA and the
former Miss Teen USA are
probably bound up by
nondisclosure agreements.
They've alluded to being limited
in what they can say. But some
details have trickled out just
reading between the lines of
their messages to the public on
Instagram and by some comments
that their mothers have given in
interviews. And the general
impression you have is that they
feel like they were just
shabbily treated by pageant
management, that they were
subject to criticism and
disorganization. You've seen
some phrases tossed about
bullying, sexual harassment that
wasn't taken seriously things
like that. But the precise
details have not come out the
resignation
statement that was put out by
Noelia, Voight, who was Miss USA
went viral and followers online.
were pointing out that her
statements first 11 sentences
started with letters that
spelled out quote, I am silenced
on quote. I mean, do you think
that's internet conspiracy
theory or that she's trying to
say something significant there
for once?
It does not seem to be internet
conspiracy theory. People close
to her have said yeah, this is
how she feels that was an
intentional message. And that's
the message we've gotten is that
this was somewhat coordinated.
These young women talk to each
other. Their resignations had
been preceded by that of the
Social Media Manager for the
organization. Wow,
Adam Curry: it's about time.
This is I've never understood
why this is still a thing. I
mean, it's it seems so off in
today's politically correct
world to have beauty contests at
all. The enter display women
like this is of course the
season of reveal and it'll we'll
find out about the Olympic
Games, how the how the athletes
are treated like just marketing
meet, marketing meet. That's all
that's all these women aren't
marketing meet for organizations
that are corrupt and probably
filled with creeps.
John C Dvorak: If of course I
would draw creeps because you go
where the action is. There's
actually no we're there. So I am
silenced as the first let you
know first I actually wrote a
column for Mac user magazine
years ago where I did that. You
did I am silence you did want to
say I'm silenced. But I had some
message using the first letter
of every sentence was it? I
can't remember his Happy April
Fool's Day or something. I don't
remember. The whole thing was
let down. I think I did a bunch
of these jokes and I one of year
I resigned which upset the
publisher. But in the boot there
was a message was in there. But
I remember one time I did one
that was a mirror image which
was the I think one of my more
creative April Fool's gags. But
yeah, using the first letter is
not it's not a conspiracy when
it spells out I am silenced. No,
it's like, what can you think
it's a coincidence that she
wrote this? So okay, anyway, so
now we go to part two, because
we gotta get to the bottom of
this, what's really going on
who's responsible? More
Unknown: quietly, though, a
couple of longtime executives
with Miss USA stepped away in
the past several months since
the pageant management changed
hands back in August. This is an
organization that's in some
upheaval, and that goes back a
long ways.
Voigt hasn't commented further
on her resignation statement,
but a longer version of that
resignation letter was obtained
by some news organizations. And
in it, she accused the Miss USA
organization of quote, a toxic
work environment that at best is
poor management, and at worst is
bullying and harassment. Given
what you know about this
organization about its history.
Did those charges surprise you?
No, they really didn't surprise
me. Part of that has to do with
the fact that this was the
pageant organization Miss USA, a
subsidiary Miss Universe that
was owned in part by Donald
Trump. I think we all remember
hearing in 2015 2016, some of
the accusations, some of the
stories that came out about his
behavior around contestants the
way he talked about them. Oh,
Adam Curry: my word, man, you
know, I thought that you know,
did John forget Did he forget
had about what was going on. But
this also deserves a clip of the
day on.
John C Dvorak: NPR and
Washington Post, they can help
themselves. They just can't do
it.
Adam Curry: Of course we have
Trump. It's Trump's fault. You
know what, you know, I know I
know what the problem was. I
know what she's what she
couldn't say. I know what's
going on. Half of the
contestants are dudes. That's
what's happening there. Yeah.
Yeah, we're sick of it. We're
sick of it. And so is the
sisterhood. Kappa Kappa Gamma.
Unknown: Six members of Kappa
Kappa Gamma walk towards the
Federal Court of Appeals in
downtown Denver this morning.
Supporters cheering as they make
another push to ban Artemus
Langford and transgender women
from being in their sorority
just supposed
to be free. You're not exposed
to the outside world the male
gaze you're safe from all that
their
case was dismissed by the
district court last year. The
judge ruling even though Kappa
Kappa game was bylaws. Say
quote, a new member shall be a
woman. The court can't be the
one to decide whether that
excludes transgender women. This
word is attorney Natalie
McLaughlin arguing today. The
fraternity council didn't amend
the bylaws just interpreted
them. The term women is
undefined and campus bylaws and
that term women is not a term
that has a singular definition.
They say when a fraternity
counsel is put into position,
then they have the duty that's
the word they use duty to decide
what that term means. And in
this case, they decided that
that is to include transgender
women. The issue here is whether
fraternity Council has the right
to interpret the term women and
it is not whether they have you
know announced that term in the
best form but whether they have
exercised the right to interpret
that term and that is what
occurred here. Six women though
say the way the sporty was asked
to vote on link for to
membership through Google Forms
was against bylaws.
So it was a big intimidation
factor of hey, we can see if you
voted, we can see how you voted
and we can come talk to you
about your vote
or three judges listen to both
sides for a little over an hour.
They did express doubt on
whether they could make a ruling
or if a lower court should
continue to hear the case. No
word on when they may come back
with a decision.
Adam Curry: Okay, well, this is
easy Corinne DeVore XA You're
not a woman. We can define what
a woman is. This has to stop.
And it's it's it's crazy that we
have a Supreme Court justice
Catan G Jackson Browne, who in
her confirmation hearing would
not define what a woman is. And
here we are. These these girls,
by the way, fantastic. They were
rocking it. I go women look at
us we're women. Stay away.
John C Dvorak: There's an
overriding question here which
is you got it sorority? I'm
familiar with sororities and
fraternities and how they
operate they vote a person and
if they if this if some
transgender comes in and they
don't want transgenders in their
sorority they just say no but
didn't I don't get to see what
is being measured here what she
said that there were some but
the voting some scurry vote yes.
They they forced everybody open
voting. It wasn't a closed vote.
It
Adam Curry: was a Google a
Google Forms. Google Forms goes
long was sheets. This
John C Dvorak: doesn't there's
something about the story
doesn't make sense. I mean, I
liked the what they're up to.
Adam Curry: Yes, me too. I like
what they're up to. But it's
just like case seems somewhat
but women right women are under
attack. And it has to stop
particularly those of the
lactating kind fellas,
Unknown: the digital billboard
was supposed to celebrate
breastfeeding moms. But after
only three days, Molly Boz was
told the 45 foot ad marketing
her so called lactation cookies
was being taken down. It's
super disheartening and
infuriating to me that my kind
of first public foray into being
a public mother was one that was
deemed inappropriate.
This is how the cookie crumbles.
For cookbook author Molly baz.
She says her lactation cookie ad
meant to help new moms was on
her bucket list. But it quickly
turned into a lesson in
hypocrisy.
There's a lot of irony if you
look around the landscape at
times where of what's going on
and what historically, is deemed
an ad that's appropriate for a
public space. I know that this
is a systemic issue that exists
in our society. That's why we
put this campaign together was
to show an empowered pregnant
woman. The
ad space is operated by Clear
Channel and swell boss, his
partner says the company was
told the ad violated guidelines
for acceptable content. And
that's why it was taken down.
But baz is now sharing photos of
similar ads that also appear in
Times Square of people in
underwear showing just as much
skin.
Adam Curry: So at the at the
bottom of the story besides
possibly being a native ad, is
it is kind of despicable we've
gotten to this point where a
woman is on the Billboard, and
she's really only exposing her
belly, a big pregnant belly. And
that is deemed inappropriate by
today's cultural standards.
Whereas we'll go look at the
time square billboards. It's all
sexualized. And so this is Oh,
no, we can't have this. Oh, no,
it's shocking. Oh, it's
triggering me. It's triggering.
Oh, it's red. The rain triggers
me I'm triggered. We've gotten
we've
John C Dvorak: been looking at
this slightly differently as I
like to know how a cookbook
author she's near afford at
Times Square billboard. She
Adam Curry: is the New York
Times. cookbook recipe author.
She's a big deal. She's a big
deal. This
John C Dvorak: is so big deal
doesn't mean you have the money
to afford a house I especially a
New York Times reporter
basically,
Adam Curry: I've she's a big
deal but go look her up.
John C Dvorak: We'll be having a
big deal doesn't mean she has
the resources. If
Adam Curry: I think new ideas
had a billboard on Times Square,
it's not that expensive just to
but you had
John C Dvorak: investors money
as right now your money. Your
pot investors money?
Adam Curry: Yes. Big difference.
VC cash? Well, okay, I'm not
looking at that way. I'm looking
at the mental health crisis we
have in America. It's all around
the world. But it's certainly in
the United we have a mental
health crisis. People are out of
their minds, then it's probably
because they're not drinking raw
milk. That would change by the
way, the New York Times had an
outstanding, I was surprised in
this era of the whole child
initiative, which is extremely
disturbing. Not good. I have a
pamphlet, which I've not allowed
to post yet by the pamphlet
that's distributed in schools
from the summit Counseling
Center. And I mean, this is the
stuff that they're identifying
children with in schools buy in
school counselors. This is a
problem. Get your kids out of
the school don't even try to
change the school. Just get them
out. Yeah, I'm thinking you're
right. I mean, homeschooling is
there's lots of resources for
homeschooling parents, you you
homeschooled your all of your
kids.
John C Dvorak: Just a couple of
them and only part not the whole
time either just a period of
time, right and then they want
to do it you find out a couple
of things. Yeah. And there's
like there's categories of
homeschoolers as a Christian
homeschoolers. There's the
Muslim homeschoolers as a Jewish
homeschoolers as the secular. So
there's four groups of
homeschoolers, and they intermix
a little bit. The Muslim
homeschoolers tend to be the
most aggressive about field
trips. So you try to hook up
with a few of those guys. So the
kids are always going out there
at farms, their factories are
mooted that Muslim homeschoolers
are great. There's resources
there's bookstores, there's
online sources that once you get
into it, it just all of a sudden
you're you're you're in a
network you didn't know existed
and then boom, you get
everything you need is there
it's a no brainer. So actually
quite easy. The key I'll give
you this the key to success to
homeschooling is to get the kid
to agree your child Yeah, to be
getting into it. To sit to agree
to it. Yeah. Would you like to
leave with the other school is
terrible. Would you like to be
homeschool? I will, we will
homeschool you but you have to
agree to cooperate.
Adam Curry: Sign this. Once
John C Dvorak: you got it and
once they agree to cooperate,
then this is good to go. There
is a lot of art, you know,
reading on their own
Adam Curry: and just say how
many years was J homeschooled?
John C Dvorak: Probably four or
five five maybe? J
Adam Curry: DeVore. EC je je
Devorah is one of the most
delightful productive human
resources I've ever had the
pleasure of working with. She
she does no agenda abc.com The
books are shipping by the way.
They are their shipping, the
shipping the books are shipping
as we speak no agenda abc.com
Get your coloring book, get your
hard copy. She is one of the
most enjoyable, pleasant,
productive human resources I've
ever worked with. And there you
go. Because she was
homeschooled. She got no hang
ups. No issues. Always smiley,
always good. Now, I would I
would recommend any organization
hire except you can because we
got her under contract. She's at
the Art publishing company, but
our mind but she had a post she
can't have her. So anyway, on
the previous episode, I made
some comments about social media
and how useless utterly useless
it is to be posting about all
the horrible things in the
world. You might get it off your
chest but you're not doing
anything you're not star Getting
a conversation not get anything
going. You're not helping your
means really aren't doing all
that much. You're in a little
bubble and you get your friends.
Names. That was great, man. It
was a great meet. Oh, that was
great. Oh yeah. Who got them?
Yeah, you you showed them on the
legs really? There's more danger
to social networks, particularly
to the children by the way, I
got I saw a lot of positive
comments people like, you know,
Adams and a horrible guy who I
hate him. He's a grifter, but he
is kind of right. You know, it's
really kind of useless. You're
John C Dvorak: not a grifter,
that's for sure. No, they
Adam Curry: call me grifter. I'm
a grifter. I'm a grifter. I'm a
grifter.
John C Dvorak: Maybe a horrible
guy. But you're not a grifter.
Adam Curry: Thank you. Thank you
for clarifying. But there is
more going on with social
networking that I would like the
parents who of course, if you're
listening to the no agenda
podcast, you probably already
know this. But I was surprised,
delightfully surprised to see
the New York Times post a whole
piece on this and actually had a
video, I clipped it. And this is
about mental health, and how
social media and the experts on
social media are ruining your
children search
Unknown: for high functioning
anxiety on tick tock, and look
what happens three signs of high
functioning anxiety, with high
functioning anxiety, things you
don't realize you're doing
because of your high functioning
anxiety, more than 10,000 videos
with millions of young viewers.
Number one, you tend to have
extremely high standards for
yourself and might even identify
as being a perfectionist, you
are nice and easy to be around.
But you people please too much.
Many are made by professional
clinicians. And they mean well,
but here's the thing. high
functioning anxiety isn't a
medical diagnosis. It's a
hashtag.
No one cares about me. Why
should I care about myself? It's
okay to not understand what
you're feeling. And it's easy to
think that you're all alone.
Over the
last decade, there's been this
massive cultural shift in how we
talk about our psychology and
our feelings. They see a
therapist, it's okay. It's okay.
It's okay. It's okay. It's okay.
It's okay. It's okay. Even
Burger King cares about your
mental health. Awareness is
good. It teaches us to talk
about our feelings and it
combats harmful stigma but all
this awareness is not reducing
rates of mental health problems.
What it is doing is convincing
some teenagers that they have a
mental illness when they don't.
Yes,
Adam Curry: exactly. That's
exactly what's happening. I'm
high function. I have high
functional anxiety. Guess what
anxiety is a part of life. You
don't need drugs for it. You
don't need stuff to regulate
your anxiety. Then all of this
stuff, it's all it's
professionals. jhanas
professionals. It's all part of
the American Psychiatric
psychiatric association. Oh, no.
If you feel like this sometimes
Oh, you probably need to take
aerial. You're a boy. Sure, boy.
It always ends up with your boy.
Yeah, take girl. Yeah, exactly.
So be careful. Be careful out
there people. Ah, see, you've
been hiding it from me. And I
wasn't prepared to play yeah.
What are you drinking today,
John?
John C Dvorak: I'm drinking
Lagunitas hoppy refresher. And
this is a berry lemon flavor.
Adam Curry: Oh,
John C Dvorak: what can I buy
last? My last can of hoppy
refresher hoppy
Adam Curry: refresher,
interesting.
John C Dvorak: Kind of a hint?
Sounds good. Sounds kind of gave
me a case of it.
Adam Curry: You drank the whole
case on the show?
John C Dvorak: No, I drink it
every so often. It's tasty. It's
hoppy.
Adam Curry: Let's see. We
probably let me see Oh, we
should probably talk about this
for a second. Just because
you're the expert.
Unknown: American families are
now spending about $227 more a
month compared to a year ago and
about $1,037 more compared to
three years ago. Even with
incomes rising costs going up
have met the credit card
statements how much money you're
putting on that credit card is
also rising. The number of
Americans now missing their
credit card payments is
increasing with Gen Z, the most
likely age group to max out
their credit cards. And the Fed
has signaled that rates are
likely to go lower eventually
but that eventually continues to
get pushed out with inflation
higher and we're starting to see
it impact other areas like
student loans student loan
interest rates now the highest
in nearly two decades. Yeah,
Adam Curry: everything's great.
The economy is good. Best Ever.
Biden omics is working everybody
anomic so they expect that every
leg expected 3.5% inflation
month over month
John C Dvorak: you know, this
would I wish I didn't even have
a clip on this but I probably
one of the clips may incorporate
this but NPR again, day taught
talked about added like this is
great. The economy has never
been in better shape is only
3.5%. month over month is way
down
Adam Curry: month over month.
It's it's compounded, is it not?
John C Dvorak: Yeah. Oh yeah.
It's just it's just keeps us
it's it stacks on top of each
other. So it was whatever it is.
It's more let's
Adam Curry: see how great the
economy is. Let's see how fast
food is doing back now
Unknown: with Red Lobster moving
closer to bankruptcy. The Wall
Street Journal reports the
seafood chain could file for
Chapter 11. As soon as next week
Red Lobster follows the sudden
closure of dozens of
restaurants. Red Lobster has
been losing money for years.
It's all you can eat shrimp to
contributed to an $11 million
loss. I mean,
Adam Curry: shrimp. Shrimp is
the bug of the sea. They can't
even make money on shrimp.
John C Dvorak: They weren't it
was all you can eat shrimp. This
has been broke down. Because you
got big fat Hey, I don't know
about you. But there's a Texas
has got plenty of these guys.
But we had a lot of wet red
lobsters out here big fat guys.
And they go into a place like
this where it's all you can eat
shrimp for a fixed price and
they eat it they eat the place
out. And then these guys are
these guys managing red locks.
You're too dumb
Adam Curry: to realize motion to
realize this is not working.
Well, there's another promotion
because you know so with these
inflation numbers actually, it
was kind of funny we see do I
have it in here? Let me see. Do
I have the I thought I had the
inflation number oh, here's the
inflation breakdown. It was kind
of interesting to see the how
they bend of course these
numbers are bogus. So all items
3.4% increase in cost that is
what they call inflation. The
largest inflation categories
were juices and drinks 29%
increase video discs and other
media 29% increase video what
video discs and other media
discs. They're measuring that
but that's 29% motor vehicle
insurance. We got hit by this
22.6% We have as much chance of
something happening to our car
is as farmer Jed. I mean we live
in the sticks is amazing how
much our car insurance went up.
admissions to sporting events.
You're getting gouged 15% food
at home though only 1.1% While
food in general like fast food.
Now that's going up then so
McDonald's groceries
John C Dvorak: have gone up
pocket food at home only be 1%
because that comes that stems
from groceries 1.1% It's
Adam Curry: it that's some
that's a bogus no beef roasts.
10.1% is beef roast is not the
same as food at home.
frankfurters. 7% fats and oils.
Why are you eating that at all
people 5% Canned vegetables 4.8%
tomatoes 4.7 Dried beans, peas
and lentils. Food away from home
though. This up vending machines
7.3% and limited service meals
and snacks 4.8 So that's I guess
your fast food they don't break
it out by fast food. So
McDonald's is feeling the heat
because they're gouging people.
Did you see that? There was a
video that went viral of this
lady's like she opens up a Big
Mac and it's thinner than the
pickle. The meat patty is
thinner than the pickle. And
it's transparent there's holes
in it. Yeah, it sounds like so
so there so that for one
McDonald's
John C Dvorak: in Oakland I
should get some clips because I
can get these clips that was rat
infested. rat infested for over
a year they finally got it down
we
Adam Curry: had clips of the rat
infested we had clip your clips
you don't remember at the rats.
So McDonald's is fighting back
with a one month limited value
Unknown: meal with fast food
frustration frying customers.
Adam Curry: Whoa nice
alliteration what happened to
the dollar menu
Unknown: bring that back
this morning. Some relief may be
on the horizon of the Golden
Arches. McDonald's may soon roll
out of $5 value meal nationwide
to people familiar tells CNBC
the offer would include four
piece chicken mcnuggets a choice
of a make chicken or make double
fries and a drink and the rumor
hot off the press has consumers
loving it because that seems too
good to be true.
I'm excited for if that's the
case because everything
fast food giant would be just
the latest offer a $5 meal deal
if all this with the JBC
igniting a battle in the burger
Kingdom has more inflation.
Cautious consumers are fed up
with rising Fast Food costs yeah
Adam Curry: nice native ads CNBC
John C Dvorak: was definitely a
native ad but the worst part is
it seems as if from the least
from the forums that the the
franchise owners of all these
McDonald's do not want this no
Adam Curry: because they're
gonna get soaked on it
John C Dvorak: you're gonna get
soaked and it's gonna be like
the free or the all you can eat
shrimp is just that there's no
money in it and so they're not
happy.
Adam Curry: Now at this point,
you're better off getting some
ground hamburger meat from your
rancher? Yes, yes you are. It's
it's you paid the same if not
less. And you can make a whole
bunch of
John C Dvorak: number of people
out there that have ranchers you
can get it goat available to
them. You probably 1% of the
audience available
Adam Curry: to everybody in
America. There's a map and
there's one near you beef
initiative.com There's one near
you you can get this this is
this is the problem is people
think that they can't get it.
I'm just trying to keep people
healthy. I don't want to do
whatever you want. Feed your
kids that crap.
John C Dvorak: Kids crap.
Adam Curry: Adam and John. John
says feed your kids crap raw
sewage. Let us since we're in
the season of reveal here, let's
go to the corruption because
they're all corrupt. All of
them. All of them are in some
kind of deal one way or the
other. I love how Menendez has
thrown his wife under the bus
though gold
Unknown: bars seized by the FBI
will be put on full display in
the federal corruption trial
against Senator Bob Menendez.
This is what prosecutors told
jurors Wednesday afternoon
during opening arguments or what
they described as a roadmap to
their case. Assistant US
Attorney Laura Pomerance said,
this is a case about a public
official who put greed first who
put his power up for sale. What
was his price gold. She told the
court the bribery scheme started
in 2018 with Egyptian native why
Ohana and the Senator's wife
Nadine Menendez that you had
been friends for years, and then
Hana saw an opportunity as a
failed businessman. Pomeranz
told jurors that Menendez
promised to do things to benefit
Hana and the Government of
Egypt, which set in motion a web
to make good on the bribery
payments with the help of Haanas
business partner, New Jersey
real estate developer Fred
Davies, but defense attorney for
Menendez, Avi Weitzman, told
jurors, he was never and is not
a foreign agent of the
government and he did not
violate the law period. Bob was
doing his job and he was doing
it right. He says the gold bars
have been in his wife's Lebanese
family for years and were listed
on a 2022 financial disclosure
form. Weitzman told the court,
they want you to be blinded by
the golden cash and that the
government's case rests on
little more than guesswork and
speculation. Thursday morning
defense attorneys for awhile,
Hana and Fred Davies will
present their opening arguments.
I
Adam Curry: don't believe it for
a second. It's the woman it's
the wife. Yeah, but
John C Dvorak: listen to this.
If it's been if the gold bars
have been in the Lebanese wife's
family for years, I can just
showed up on a on a statement.
2022 Yeah,
Adam Curry: because she stole it
from the family. I don't know
this ally. Gold is fungible.
That one got one gold bar for
the other. Was it that one? Was
it this one? I don't know.
Actually, I think they're
probably stamped, aren't they?
Um, they have a number the gold
bars tend to be they tend to be
but all of these politicians I
think the minute you get elected
you're in it's like hey, hey,
look at this picture. In your
mind now son, yeah, and this guy
this guy's what it was Menendez
his wife she's the one that was
getting all the favors done.
He's like yes, yes on the I
know. The in some other reports
like it was it wasn't a locked
closet. I don't have the key to
her closet. What kind of
marriage do you have?
John C Dvorak: Rarely that's not
a crock that's not
Adam Curry: suspicious.
John C Dvorak: And you know my
wife's got a lot clauses you
won't let me look in there. Like
you ever tried to go in there
when she's not at home and check
it out and see what she's
hiding. No.
Adam Curry: So it was a horrible
assassination attempt on the
Slovak Slovakia I have a crime
minister. Oh, I have an update.
The came in this morning.
John C Dvorak: Oh a play my clip
then your update. Okay, hold
Adam Curry: on a second. Where
is your clip? Here we go. Here's
your clip,
Unknown: Slovakia's populist
Prime Minister Robert feet so is
fighting for his life. He was
severely wounded after being
gunned down following a
political event this afternoon.
Here's more. The 59
year old was hit in the stomach
after four shots were fired. The
shooting happened outside the
House of Culture in the town of
Hannover where he was meeting
with supporters. Police have a
suspect in custody. This
Shooting in Slovakia comes three
weeks ahead of crucial European
Parliament elections, in which
populist and hard right parties
in the 27 nation bloc appear
poised to make gains. feet so a
third time Premier is staging a
political comeback. After
campaigning on a pro Russian and
anti American message. Critics
are worried the country in
defeats those leadership would
abandon Slovakia is pro Western
course and follow the direction
of Hungary under populist Prime
Minister Viktor Orban. 1000s
have repeatedly rallied in the
capital and across Slovakia to
protest feeds those policies.
condemnations of political
violence quickly came from
leaders across Europe, although
no motive for the attack was
immediately apparent. Yeah.
Adam Curry: Okay, so first of
all shades of pin for town. This
is exactly what happened with
him for town. 22 years ago, he
was about to go into elections.
They have some, some gray beard,
go out and shoot him kill him.
Because, you know, he might
upset the applecart and clearly
the Slovakian Pm is not in on
the whole, you know, the whole
European Union kumbaya thing,
and whoa, oh, it was much more
like Viktor Orban. Oh no. And
then so that just just killing
John C Dvorak: was straw man,
Viktor Orban. Yeah,
Adam Curry: what they're just
they're killing people. Now over
this is a political
assassination attempt. Here's
the update from this morning,
Unknown: Wednesday afternoon.
This helicopter rushed Slovakian
Prime Minister Robert feets out
to the hospital. We spend hours
in intensive surgeries. late in
the night, one of Slovakia's
deputy prime ministers announced
that the operations were
successful in that pizza was no
longer in a life threatening
situation. Meanwhile, another
deputy prime minister held a
press conference denouncing the
political nature of the attack.
The issue was the political
assault feed so was shot in the
abdomen as he greeted a crowd of
supporters. Limited Slater
footage showed police
handcuffing a gray haired
suspect on the ground. Local
media have identified the gunman
as a 71 year old writer and
peace activist and
identification that has been
confirmed by the Slovakian
interior ministers but not
officially released by police.
Several of his political
statements can be found on
social media, in which he
variously called out hatred and
extremism, advocated for non
violence and supported a pro
Russian paramilitary group
paramilitary Prime Minister feet
so when a third term in
September after campaigning on a
pro Russian and anti American
platform. After his electoral
victory, his government
immediately halted arms
deliveries to Ukraine. Oh no
critics have worried the
undefeated so Slovakia would
abandon the country's pro
Western course and follow the
direction of Hungary under
populous Prime Minister, Viktor
Orban.
Adam Curry: There you go, there
you go. But you're not on board.
And so now they're just killing
each other.
John C Dvorak: I can't appease
activist peace a peace Nick
activist and Jake a non violent
hate or violence shoot somebody?
Yeah,
Adam Curry: yeah.
John C Dvorak: Oh, irony there.
Adam Curry: Oh, because we have
to go kill people. kill people
kill people. All right. Now
let's talk about the real
killing that's going on the real
killing. Because we're out of
Ukrainian men. They're all dead.
We need more urgently needs
Unknown: new soldiers and is
increasing pressure on men to
sign up. The government recently
passed a new mobilization law
from this, which from this
weekend means that Ukrainian men
will have two months to register
for potential conscription. If
they don't sign up. They'll be
punished
Adam Curry: you either get
punished or you die. This is
insane. They are the Ukraine
girls. They this amazing what
they're doing and when she's
like oh is just Ukrainian men
who gives a crap wound care.
Rafa
John C Dvorak: is gonna take
he's gonna completely alter the
gene pool.
Adam Curry: Yes, and they
already have cankles let's be
honest. So what do we do? Well,
we're gonna help we're gonna
help we're gonna help we're
coming to your aid dudes. And
Unknown: update now the US is
giving Ukraine another massive
round of support as Ukrainian
forces battle against the new
Russian military offensive US
Secretary of State Antony
Blinken announcing in Kyiv.
Today a $2 billion arms deal.
Most of the money will come from
a package approved last month.
The funding will provide weapons
in the short term invest in
Ukraine's defense industrial
base as well and allow Ukraine
to buy military supplies from
other countries. Ukrainian
troops withdrew from Some parts
of their country while fighting
Russian soldiers in other areas
today, Ukraine's president has
postponed all upcoming foreign
trips.
Adam Curry: So it's the 2
billion of the 60 billion which
they did not get no big
Publishers Clearing House check
to Ukraine. No, here's 2 billion
that we're not sending you a
check. You can spend, what would
you like to spend? It's like the
Supermarket Sweep. Okay, you got
2 billion you got 30 seconds.
What do you want to buy? You
want to attack items? No, no,
you're not getting attack items,
which is whatever. Remember that
was always to get them attack
items that were just fell out of
vogue because they're not going
to give it to them. They don't
they're not sincere about this.
If they use attack ohms then
they would attack they would
blow up Moscow. We can't have
that that would not prolong
everything so instead, send
Blinken tonight
Unknown: the Russians advancing
from Ukraine's northeast border.
A desperate race to evacuate
1000s of Ukrainians on the
outskirts of hotkey says they
are shooting from everywhere.
Yesterday there was a hit in the
front of our house burned down.
Ukraine forced to retreat in
recent months waiting for
Congress to approve weapons. Now
try to hold the line and
villages north of arkiv
Secretary of State Lincoln
arriving and Keith today, even
taking time to jump on stage
with a local band. Playing
rockin in the free world
presents Alinsky expressing
gratitude but saying his country
still needs air defense against
the Russian barrage.
Specifically Patriot missile
batteries scattered
defense the biggest deficits for
us for our coverage
because they are under attack
Secretary Blinken saying the
assistance is on its way some
has
already arrived. But more that
will be arriving. And that's
going to make a real difference.
But
the US says it doesn't have
enough Patriot missile launches
and is working with other
countries to send theirs. While
Russia is getting critical
support from Iran, North Korea
and China Putin is
ramping up yet another offensive
against Ukraine in our Kyiv and
across the east, sending wave
after wave of Russian soldiers,
Iranian drones, North Korean
artillery oh and tanks.
And this week President Putin
and riding the wave of recent
advances in Ukraine will meet
with President Xi in Beijing and
we'll discuss the war.
Adam Curry: Okay, so they send
Blinken over to say don't worry,
you can spend that 2 billion on
some Patriot missiles from other
European countries. That's fine.
We're not going to give you
attack items. Enza Lenski got
the script playing along nicely.
And just to relieve some
tension. I guess Blinken travels
with his guitar because it's a
custom. It's a left handed
guitar bread. And I actually I
sewed him playing and singing.
And it's atrocious and
embarrassing. Okay.
John C Dvorak: Throw something
in here. So this band is
notorious for playing living in
the free world. And they made
the announcement that hey, we're
gonna have a special
Adam Curry: special guest and
was like Neil Young's coming
Bruce and everybody
John C Dvorak: believed Neil
Young was going to come because
of the song and so they packed
the place. And here's our
special guest Anthony blink and
wearing yeah, here we go. I was
just gonna say when you're over
50 Don't wear jeans please.
Unknown: They're fighting not
just for Ukraine but for the
free world. And the free world
is with you too. So maybe we can
try something
Adam Curry: hey Blinken autotune
this is this is the height of
embarrassment is
John C Dvorak: very bad.
Adam Curry: Ms. Elissa Oh solo
rip and rip and maybe he didn't
even play this. Oh, this is an
embarrassment. He should be
fired by doing this fired. I
mean, this is worse than Hillary
Clinton dancing with the with
her team. Remember that?
John C Dvorak: Oh my god.
Adam Curry: So I did want to
play this short ABC report about
the intensifying attacks because
it is not pop heaven.
Unknown: Tonight, the Russian
onslaught in the Northeast
forcing Ukrainian troops to
retreat and civilians to flee
Oberoi. You can hear gun battles
raging as this police official
in the border town of VAVA
Schanz describes the situation
as extremely difficult. Ukraine
is fighting back. But Russian
forces are pressing ahead.
Repeatedly shelling the
country's second largest city
Kharkiv just a few dozen miles
away developments in the
northeast and along other parts
of the 600 mile front so
concerning President Zelensky
that he's postponed all upcoming
foreign trips to monitor the
fighting. It comes as Secretary
Blinken announced another $2
billion in aid during his visit,
most of it coming from the $60
billion already approved by
Congress last month. We're
rushing
ammunition, armored vehicles,
missiles, air defenses, rushing
them to get to the front lines.
And David, President Solinsky
may have had to cancel his
upcoming foreign trip because of
the seriousness of the situation
in Kharkiv. But Vladimir Putin
has tonight arrived in China
shoring up support for the war,
which does seem increasingly to
be going his way.
Adam Curry: They mean, can you
make it any more clear? NAT POP
NAT POP Nat pop, boom, three,
two words, another explosion.
John C Dvorak: I don't have a
link to the show notes. But I
want to recommend something to
people, which is a new
development in these wars they
talk about they talk about dry
Iranian drones in this and
that's not what's going on
what's really going on now is
that the Russians have
retrofitted their supply of half
ton, one ton, 2000 pound and
3000 pound bombs that they've
accumulated. And there's an
estimated one, but you can look
this up on glide bombs, no, and
try to find the Daily Mail
report. So they've modified
these bombs, and they take an SU
34. And they take it up to about
56,000 feet, which are the
things that I had to do to get
to 40 miles away, before even
crossing the Ukrainian border
and launching these things. And
they've got wings and a little
GPS device on him. And they
glide 40 Miles like do not
propelled they just glide and
then hit these targets these
these targets accurately.
Supposedly. It's an amazing
technology. And it turns out if
you listen to the reports, that
the Russian you know, you talk
about all the North Koreans and
this all these people supplying
the Russians, they have 1
million of these bombs that
they've asked us the 61 million
Wow, they're gonna launch it
they put the wings on every one
of them and off they go. There's
like retrofitted. They're just
as fascinating story about glide
bombs, but look at I would
recommend
Adam Curry: I have it in the
show notes is dynamite. It is
and but the thing is, they're
not sincere about any of this
because the attackers have not
and remember this was at the
discretion of the president. The
Press, they're approved. They're
good to go. We can send them
over. But no, you're not going
to get it because it's a farce.
This war is a farce. And there's
hundreds of 1000s of Ukrainian
men dead because of it dead and
no outrage, no outrage, zero. No
one cares. There's also no video
No, not pops, no, no body parts
thrown about, unlike in Gaza.
Now, I want to transition us
carefully over to this story
John C Dvorak: by kind of a
background of Gaza clip.
Adam Curry: What can I can I
transition us into it with a
protest clip? Sure, because this
before
John C Dvorak: you play that
don't want to say something?
Yeah, say so. I have to say
whoever's really behind this
Gaza thing. The protesters in
the United States at every
university in every college and
every on bridges and toll plazas
and every place in between these
people are extremely talented at
organizing. I mean, I've never
seen anything. So well done in
my entire life. And I've seen
lots of protests, but this is
unbelievably good.
Adam Curry: Yeah, it's this it's
well organized, well funded. And
it's dynamite. And well, there's
a lot of hate about Israel.
There's a lot of people who hate
Israel. They hate the Zinus
those damn Zionist, yes. So so
the Sky News lady, you know, the
one who's always making fun of
stuff. So she made fun of Greta
Greta, credit to marry at the
Eurovision Song Contest. Yeah,
and it was just so good. She
used several adjectives that I
just wanted to play one minute
of her her rant about Greta,
Unknown: one line performer
representing Israel was
mercilessly bullied by the crowd
who booed her by fellow
contestants and even commie
troll Greta Thunberg. To
show that we think it is
outrageous and inexcusable for
Univision to let Israel
participate while committing a
genocide. Yes, it's a song
contest where where Israel, a
country that is currently
committing a genocide in Gaza
are allowed to compete. Yeah,
that is a very clear example
that does say that when a
country accepts in the way that
when a country behaves in a way
that is unacceptable, then
Eurovision excuse them, so why
not Israel?
She really is a miss Have a
little Doom goblin isn't she and
how wonderful to see her.
Adam Curry: I just love kami
troll and miserable little Doom
goblin. I like that Doom
Unknown: goblin.
Adam Curry: And and and I think
you can pay her to show up. I
think you can pay her. She I
think she's paid. Yeah. Why
wouldn't she be these, as you
pointed out these these protests
are well organized, they're well
funded. I think you can buy
Greta Greta Thun berry to come
and protest for you. And in
fact, I'd like to pay her I'd
like to make an offer to protest
the podcast industrial complex
protest Spotify, I think we can
get her to impair. Anyway, it is
clear that what Israel is doing
is way beyond anything they
should be doing. I think at this
point, even this show has to
agree it's gone a bit far.
John C Dvorak: This Well, since
I don't believe any of this
things anyone's telling us?
Adam Curry: We don't I can't
believe that
John C Dvorak: we don't really
even know. We don't know
anything because they lie. They
lie. The information from both
sides of this is a lie. Do you
have an update so we can just
have an update. Gaza update
Unknown: Israeli Prime Minister
Benjamin Netanyahu continues to
push back against criticism
Israel is not prepared for a
post war reality in Gaza.
Netanyahu basically saying it's
impossible to know what's next
until the million chin group
Hamas is defeated. US has been
increasingly critical of Israel,
citing a large number of
civilian casualties as it ramps
up, it's fighting there. And
Biden administration is moving
ahead with a $1 billion arms
package for Israel even as the
administration recently halted a
planned shipment of 2000 pound
bombs. I
Adam Curry: have a clip that
comes from I think this is TRT
Turkish radio and television
that I have not heard any of
this information in the United
States. And it is the rather
interesting amount of State
Department and Defense
Department people who are
resigning their jobs over this.
Have you heard anything about
this? i
John C Dvorak: Yes, I have.
Well, every so often, it's
mentioned in one of these back
and forth interviews about these
guys quitting people are
quitting the State Department
left and right.
Adam Curry: Well, here we go.
Unknown: On Monday, US Army
intelligence officer Major
Harrison man publicly resigned
from the Defense Intelligence
Agency by posting a letter on
his LinkedIn profile. The
policy that's never been far
from my mind for the past six
months is the nearly unqualified
support for the Government of
Israel, which has enabled and
empowered the killing and
starvation of 10s of 1000s of
innocent Palestinians.
A US State Department report
released Friday found that
weapons provided by America to
Israeli security forces since
October 7, were used in
violation of international
humanitarian law.
What we've seen at the same time
is those arguments being used to
kill at this point over 34,000
people in Gaza from over 14,000
Children, in many cases,
striking targets in which there
was no identified military
objective. We have seen rules of
engagement on the part of Israel
that seem contrary to you know,
international both military best
practice, as well as a commonly
accepted international law when
it comes to the principles of
proportionality and
discrimination.
Josh Paul, former director of US
State Department, Bureau of
political and military affairs,
became the highest level US
official to resign just one
month after October 7. He says
the administration is avoiding
implementing laws that would
prevent military support to
Israel
to come to a conclusion
similarly, that international
humanitarian law has been
violated. There are both laws
and policies in the US that
would restrict the flow of arms.
So it is clear, I think that the
administration is doing this in
order to continue the flow of
arms despite the specific
restrictions that have been
placed on shipments of for
example, 2000 pound bombs. And
that is why it has not come to
any legally binding conclusions.
Since Paul's resignation. Many
more US officials from various
government offices have resigned
in protest to the
administration's pro Israel
policies.
Adam Curry: I had not heard any
of that. I'm glad you did. I was
like, I didn't know that. I know
people were resigning left and
right. Is this. Is this now like
this $1 billion.
John C Dvorak: Is this think
everybody? I don't think they're
all resigning because of this?
Adam Curry: What do you think
there was?
John C Dvorak: The Turkish news
makes us sad because they're on
one side of the argument. That's
Adam Curry: why I play it. Of
course.
John C Dvorak: Yeah. I don't
believe that's true. I did
sounds that because this has
been going on for a while.
They're just fed up with the
system at the State Department.
They don't like Blink and
there's a lot of reasons to
quit. And that one that was
exemplified on that particular
clip was it was a guy with the
DEI which is not State
Department.
Adam Curry: Here's what I here's
what I don't know. Understand
Dei,
John C Dvorak: but Department of
Defense Intelligence. Yeah.
Adam Curry: So so we know that
the numbers come the the news
has been reporting the numbers
from the Hamas agency. So we
have no idea how correct that
is. But I think the it's
intentional, but I wonder why
they're doing it. Why do they
keep saying it's a genocide?
Because the genocide implies
that you just want to wipe all
the people out? I don't think
there's any evidence of that
they may be wiping them out. But
there has to be intent behind
genocide. And it's feels like
you're you're creating a
friction point of interpretation
that has nothing to do with dead
people. You know what I mean?
Like, why did it why did the
protesters harp on that? Why did
why does it all has to be
genocide, which of course is
polarized and because of the
Jewish Holocaust genocide, which
some would say supposedly, in
World War Two. It's like a brain
fry. You know what I mean? It
doesn't make any sense to attack
with that as your main point. Am
I Am I overthinking this?
John C Dvorak: I'm not gonna say
you're overthinking it. But I'm
kind of surprised. You're
stunned and shocked by the
misuse of the terms to get to
make a political point, given
political point. I don't know it
seems to be working. Look at the
turnout for it is debatable, but
it's a t shirt. Definitely. It
seems to me that you got a lot
of people in the street. Oh,
tons
Adam Curry: of people. And it's
so bad that let me see. We got
to go after poor Jerry Seinfeld.
Unknown: A moment to celebrate
achievement, becoming another
chance to protest the war in
Gaza. After a turbulent spring.
multiple universities facing
disruption at graduation,
including Duke. Dozens of
students walked out on Jerry
Seinfeld's commencement address
Sunday. The comedian was later
cheered.
I say, use your privilege. I
grew up a Jewish boy from New
York. That is a privilege if you
want to be a
Adam Curry: comedian. Now
explain that to me. But he's
being a Jewish boy in New York
privileged because
John C Dvorak: of us assume?
Yes, because Jewish comics in
the comedy community are always
seen as naturally superior
because they're brought up in a
culture of telling gags and
jokes. So it gives you a bit of
an advantage because you can
deliver material when you're
little. And again, right to your
older. I mean, if you ever known
anyone has a Jewish person who
has who is at the dinner table
that is one of these New Yorkers
that likes to tell them, do
jokes do material, they'll just
go don't take it to the
fantastic. Now I want to mention
something about this walkout.
There were 20 I think it was 25.
It was like 2500 or more people,
or no 20,000 I think was 20,000
people at this big commencement
date. Here's Seinfeld and 40
walked out. And that became
news. It's just bullcrap news,
so they started to
Adam Curry: applaud him later, I
stopped the report. But yeah, it
is. I mean, he has a movie to
promote, which I tried to watch
and was kind of tedious. It's
supposed to be mediocre. Yeah,
it was. It was okay. A lot of a
lot of famous people in it,
which made it kind of funny, but
then there was this whole kind
of like January 11th thing for
20 minutes that bugged me. You
know, it's like, you know, free
the pop tart or whatever.
John C Dvorak: Well, thanks.
Well watch it.
Adam Curry: You don't don't want
to watch it. I got one more. No,
actually, let's move on, because
we have the big news of the day
we haven't even discussed. But
it comes on the heels of this
news.
Unknown: After years of warning
China President Biden put his
pen where his mouth is today,
quadrupling the tariff on
Chinese EVs from 25% to 100%.
I'm determined that the future
of electric vehicles will be
made in America by union
workers.
The move comes as EVs from
Chinese automaker, BYD gained
traction around the world at
about half the price of US made
cars.
One thing that my grandfather
used to always tell me are good
things aren't cheap and cheap.
Things aren't good.
Dorian Jimenez, a Chevy
dealership in Oklahoma City.
I'm glad that our government is
going that direction and the
more things that we can keep in
house the greater can be for us.
Biden's
hikes apply to far more than
EVs, Chinese steel and aluminum
will be hit with a 25% tariff.
Solar Panel sales will go to 50%
and so will Chinese syringes and
needles.
Biden finally listen to me he
listens to me former
President Donald Trump hiked
tariffs on a much broader swath
of Chinese goods in 2018. At the
time, Biden argued that would
spark a trade war raising costs
for everyone.
We're going after the wrong
thing with China.
Adam Curry: So what is round?
Well,
John C Dvorak: he's a big way
this is some another Hail Mary
that since administration is
trying to pull well we
Adam Curry: know it can't do
that because of the Mexican like
the you know, the free trade.
John C Dvorak: I don't know what
the I know the cars down there
but beat but but taxing the EVS
from China 100% or whatever he's
supposed to do. What? Electric
cars from China? Have you ever
seen an electric car from China
in this country? No. There's not
one any here. What would you
what are you taxing nothing.
Now,
Adam Curry: what are the tax on
steel and aluminum? Yeah, but
John C Dvorak: that's just a
that's a minus 25 percents, not
the same as 100%. But this is
Trump 100%. This
Adam Curry: is all Trump policy.
Everyone knows it. Which, by the
way, I heard an analysis that
his tariffs really didn't do
anything that didn't have a lot
of effect actually. Just raise
prices on stuff.
John C Dvorak: Then you said
this was the spoken news. I
thought you were going to talk
about the clip I have, which was
the Biden Trump debate.
Adam Curry: No, I said, that's a
precursor to this right.
Unknown: Here in Washoe County,
Nevada, home to Reno, Republican
Tracy Helton, I'm
Adam Curry: sorry, that's the
wrong. That's the wrong clip.
No, I have what I'm sure you
have the clip. Where's the clip?
The Trump Biden debate clip.
Where is it?
John C Dvorak: Biden's under
Biden? Yes. Oh,
Adam Curry: you have NTD Oh,
that's interesting.
Unknown: After some quick back
and forth Biden and Trump now
both agreed to two debates, the
first one by CNN happening in
just six weeks on June 27. And
another one by ABC on September
10. It brought him on Wednesday
afternoon said he's looking
forward to these debates while
denying that he's doing one so
early in June because he's
worried about his polling. But
Trump's now asking for four
debates in total, including one
by Fox on October 2, saying
Americans need to hear more
about inflation, the border and
chaos in the world. Biden's
campaign meanwhile slamming the
door for more debates, Trump of
playing games and insisting that
Biden only wants to one on one
debates. Here's Biden in the
video on Wednesday morning watch
Donald
Trump was to debates to me.
20 20% said he hadn't shown up
for debate. Now he's acting like
he wants to debate me again will
make my day pal. I'll even do it
twice
and the formats of these debates
are still being debated and
could surprise many. Trump says
he wants large venues to make
him more exciting. While Biden's
campaign wants no live audience
saying noisy spectacles are
unhelpful. The June CNN debate,
for example, won't have an
audience and will also be the
earliest televised presidential
debate on record. It also marks
the first time that candidates
break away from the bipartisan
group that has run these debates
for decades. It's also the first
time the debates are said before
either candidates becomes the
official party nominee. While
the surprises come as Biden and
Trump are ready exchanging fire
though not yet onstage.
Adam Curry: So before we discuss
this, I want to play two clips
one because I'm disappointed MTD
left off the so called kicker
joke. Of Biden's ad here it is
Donald
Unknown: Trump lost two debates
to me in 2020. The sense that he
hadn't shown up for debate now
he's acting like he wants to
debate me again. Will Make My
Day pal. I'll even do it twice.
So let's pick the day style. I
hear you're free on Wednesdays.
Adam Curry: So the free on
Wednesdays. Is that like that's
one of theirs prison prison
visitation. Is that the joke?
No,
John C Dvorak: no, no, no
Wednesday and the New York case
is the day that the court takes
off.
Adam Curry: Okay, now I want to
play the NBC report about this
so called agreement to debate
and then we
Unknown: shall discuss tonight
The stage is set for the first
TV confrontation between
President Biden and former
President Trump in more than
three years, the agreement
punctuating a dizzying day of
deal making. And posting this
video responding to weeks of
pressure from Mr. Trump for a
debate.
Donald Trump was two debates to
me in 2020. The Senate said he
hadn't shown up for debate. Now
he's acting like he wants to
debate me again will make my day
Powell
the president taunting his rival
over his Manhattan hush money
trial. That's kept him in court
four days a
week. First pick the days
Donald, I hear you're free on
Wednesday.
There are traditionally three
debates the president offering
to Mr. Trump, who refused all of
the primary debates, quickly
saying yes and pushing for more
writing. I'm ready and willing
to debate crooked Joe at the two
proposed times. I would strongly
recommend more than two debates
and for excitement purposes, a
very large venue. Just tell me
when I'll be there. Within hours
a pair of debate dates were set
one in late June another in
September, both sides bypassing
the Commission on Presidential
Debates. Proposal for three
false showdowns. President
Biden's decision comes after
former President Trump
repeatedly challenged him to
debate. You can
see we have an empty podium
right here to my right. You know
what that is? That's for Joe
Biden. I'm trying to get him to
debate
in an already unprecedented
campaign, the first crucial
clash now the earliest in modern
history.
Adam Curry: So this does prove,
obviously, that politics is show
business for Ugly people. Your
thoughts on this, John?
John C Dvorak: Well, first of
all, is something that no one
none of these analysts have
picked up on. Is the real reason
Joe wants no audience. Because
the Democrats just a Democrat,
Senator thing, it's gonna be
CNN, it's gonna be two people.
Two people, both of them have
called Trump Hitler, both of
them. Yeah, Tapper and Dana
Bash. And so the reason he has
to have no audience because they
get to loaded up with a bunch of
pro Biden people who would be
fine, is you can't hear the ear
way.
Adam Curry: You can't hear the
IFBB. Exactly,
John C Dvorak: exactly. He's
gonna have a piece deep in his
ear. It's gonna be one of those
canal items, Joe, Joe, Joe, Joe,
Joe. And then it probably is
going to probably be talking to
it, but you can't hear it. If
you're in a giant crowd that are
all clapping and hooting and
hollering you won't be able to
pick up the cues. Joe is going
to be talked to through the
whole thing. And he's going to
be repeating what the things
were whoever is talking to him.
This is a scam.
Adam Curry: Yes. And, of course,
it's an entertainment. Gambit,
to get some money for Disney.
And for a scene by the way. It's
kind of a joke to say me, we
don't want an audience on CNN
because they don't have an
audience. So that's not, that's
not very hard. It's just, I
mean, what is there? Do they
think they can do something
here? I understand they want the
microphones muted while the
other person is talking. But
what kind of debate is this?
It's not a debate.
John C Dvorak: gonna sell it'll
be entertained. Like you said,
it's entertainment. It'll
Adam Curry: be it'll be Bonanza
ratings. It'll be fantastic.
Well,
John C Dvorak: for CNN, they
always have their get a big
number. So what is they can they
can't sell into it? It's not
part of their, you know, they
can't use that as a package sale
or anything. This is just a big
bump in their numbers for one
day. And all the other networks
are demanding that CNN because
they because ABC has already
agreed to this, that they allow
the other people to carry the
feed. Oh, no, no, no, you had to
No, no, no, we don't want to do
that. Because they want to get
their number super high. But
that makes sense. Most media
people's think that they're
going to be they're going to be
hounded into sharing the feed as
it because it is just a national
thing. It should share the feed.
So it'll show up maybe on all
the networks and then CNN won't
get that bump.
Adam Curry: I think it was a
good move though. I think they I
think it for the for the Biden
camp. I think they made a move
and it was a bold one. Because
they know they're guys retarded.
They do. But it was a bold move
and I think it put Trump on it
on on his hind leg for a second
I think he has to figure it
John C Dvorak: out and they're
gonna jet Jack Jack him up with
it ever they give him for this
State of the Union.
Adam Curry: Now you don't think
that that there's something here
that there could be a quick
switcheroo a gambit afoot? You
know something that we swap it
out in comes Gavin Newsom.
John C Dvorak: The thinking
again goes to the following as
the in the following way. They
want to do this debate early
enough, like in June, to prevent
like a switcheroo during the
convention or anything yet
because Biden will be
established now he's you know,
no matter what you think, no.
Adam Curry: Oh, so it's a it's a
it's a defensive move against a
strife inside the Democrat camp.
John C Dvorak: That's what's one
analysis would have. Yeah, I
think that's exactly right. So
you put him up there. He's
already now he's, you know, we
can't just switch him out now.
Adam Curry: Yeah, that's okay.
That makes that makes sense. No
matter what happens. They can't
swap him out. Okay, well, it'll
be great. You know what's great
about it, it's on a Wednesday.
It's good for the show. We love
that.
Unknown: I'm gonna show us move
by donating to no agenda.
Imagine all the people who could
do that. Oh, yeah, that'd be
fun.
Adam Curry: I want to thank some
people who came in $50 or above
as producers of episode 1660.
And we got some title changes
and some nice things and a
whopper of a whopper of a meet
up list. Very excited about
that. So John, why don't you
take us through these donations?
Yeah,
John C Dvorak: we're gonna start
John Key hanya or key Hana in
park Ville, Maryland with $150
and then we have Gary Coxon,
Queensland Australia with 12661
If you want to run that through
a calculator that may bump up to
200 Not sure, but it came down
to
Adam Curry: 6000 don't think it
quite makes it Wow, it's really
leaning here.
John C Dvorak: Lucas Williams
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Roswell. $100 Kevin McLaughlin
already. Oh, 808 the only one
today for boobs. Christopher
Dexter's 5678 James Edmondson in
South Plainfield, New Jersey,
5510. This goes down fast, by
the way, Devon O'Connell.
Boyles, Boylston, Massachusetts.
50 to 72. And now we're at the
50s and just just $50 donors,
name and location, starting with
inside a big list, starting with
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Carolina and last on our list is
Leanne Shipley in Covington.
Adam Curry: No, we have one more
we have one more Sara Sara a
Martin. Oh, I'm
John C Dvorak: sorry. Yes. And
I'm sorry Sarah Martin in
Lanark, Ontario, Canada. She's
got a birthday. Happy birthday
to Amy. Best sister in the
universe.
Adam Curry: Nah. All right.
Nice, beautiful. Thank you all
very much for supporting us. And
again, thank you to those people
came in under $50 For reasons of
anonymity. And again, everybody,
you can support us one way or
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appreciate it. And again, thanks
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you. You've got karma
Yeah, we got some birthdays.
Hold on a second. We'll begin
the list here. We have Eric who
wishes Lauren elewana Happy
birthday. celebrated yesterday.
Drone dork. well wishes his
keeper Melissa happy one is your
birthday today. And he himself
is celebrating tomorrow and that
coincidental? Brennan Lawton
turns 30 on the 18th Eric Mackey
Hello, Eric Mackey celebrating
on May 18. Tallinn system, which
is beautiful daughter Isabella,
happy birthday for June 6. Oh,
that's coming up I guess. And
his smokin hot and smart wife
Joanie will be so celebrated
yesterday. So it's a belated
Happy Birthday. And Sarah Martin
wishes her sister Amy a happy
birthday as we just heard happy
birthday from everybody here at
the bass podcast in the universe
Unknown: don't want to be
induced title change?
Adam Curry: Let me see we have
Kieran Hennessy. That's right,
becomes the Baron of Donnybrook
as requested and we thank you
for supporting us with multiple
amounts necessary and you're now
a baron so we really appreciate
that. Thank you so much. We have
a layaway night we want to
celebrate today with a knighting
and this comes from Justin
Heiner. He's from Vine Grove
Kentucky has been listener since
my first appearance on Joe Rogan
experience char okay donation I
am fresh off the night layaway
program that my smokin hot
rocket wife Natalie put me on as
an anniversary gift a couple of
years ago. He says best gift
ever. Quick shout out to my five
sons and future knights Gavin
Garrett, Grayson, Landon and
Jack Those are good names. Those
are strong men names I like
that. Adam watching your journey
to faith in Jesus has been
awesome, John, you're like a
fine wine. You just get better
with age. How tired of you
hearing that one is pretty bad.
This is truly as the best pod in
the universe. So to all who
agree raise a glass to hoping
these two never find an exit
strategy too late podcasters and
residents is on deck. I would
like to be knighted sir Justin
protector of the grove
roundtable New York Strip
truffle fries and a Diet Coke
and a Think of deducing is an
order okay? You've been de Deus.
Thanks guys. Bye. Okay, you were
ready for him. I got a sword if
you're a set with the sword. Do
you have your sword? You're
fighting right here it
John C Dvorak: is. gotcha
Adam Curry: gotcha fine wine All
right, Justin Heiner hop on up
here and John of Jupiter both of
you today become knights of the
no agenda roundtable I'm very
proud to pronounce the Ks D S or
Justin protector of the grove
and Sir John of Jupiter lover of
the Loxahatchee and emissary to
the perpetual pioneers. For you
gentlemen, we have hookers and
blow written boys and
Chardonnay. But at requests we
have st meet in Everglades he
New York Strip truffle fries and
a Diet Coke. And of course the
usual fare of bong hits and
bourbon sparkling cider and
escorts. We got your ginger ale
and Jerboas we got your breast
milk and pablum you sparkling
Oh, we got the buckets of
bourbon. Yes. And of course the
mutton in me there it is. That's
what I was looking for. And with
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course come with wax to seal
your important correspondence
and a certificate of
authenticity. Thank you and
especially for our layaways we'd
love it when people become
knights on the layaway plan
knights of the no agenda
roundtable know what
wow okay, we have quite the list
here today. We've got Charlotte
Thursday's thirsty Third
Thursday monthly meet up seven
o'clock in Charlotte. Charlotte,
North Carolina at Ed's Tavern on
Saturday ITM Richmond that'll be
at noon and that is at triple
crossing and Fulton that's a
change of venues or take note
for the Fort Wayne as Cinco
Demayo. Club 33 At one o'clock
and Mitchell's in Fort Wayne,
Indiana, the NA local five to a
five to a barbecue Casa De
Morgan. Baron Scott. One o'clock
see the website no agenda
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two o'clock at the draft the
TAFs group Boreum in Cincinnati,
Ohio, the Connecticut meet up
two o'clock on Saturday at the
truck bar in Hagen in
Connecticut. We have red 33 Red
333 Boston John Reed spring 2024
meet up at 230 Castle Island
brewery in Northwood,
Massachusetts, insane Diego
monthly meetup on Saturday at
330 at the roundtable pizza
Rancho Bernardo and that's in
San Diego, the central Ohio meet
up at five at Dempsey's in
Columbus, Ohio. On Sunday. Our
next show day the indie na
tribal tell your mother revised
meet up three o'clock at the
dugout bar. Great place. We've
been there Tina and I went to
visit Indianapolis, Indiana, the
knowledge in the southwest New
Hampshire 333 at the local
burger and Keene New Hampshire,
and the Charleston semi regular
meet up four o'clock at the
Royal American in Charleston,
South Carolina. We have many
more coming up this month.
Athens Greece on May 22. I hope
you guys send in the report. And
of course the Amsterdam the
Netherlands meet up on June 15.
It's gonna be very exciting.
Indeed. And, you know, Tanzania
will show up with a scrapbook
I'm so excited. Those that
you're no agenda meetups, go to
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of them see all of them listed.
If you can't find one near you
start one it's easy. No agenda
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Unknown: You won't be triggered.
You will be everybody feels the
same. Is like
Adam Curry: yay. Like a party
like a party. I only have one
Iso I don't think it's very
good. Actually. I can actually
roll it out for you. It's my
one. So please, please 100% 100%
John C Dvorak: Oh, not again.
Adam Curry: It's got hopefully
you have something better.
John C Dvorak: I have two that I
think are better. But let's
start with that. Absolutely
true. Absolutely true.
Adam Curry: Not bad. Not bad.
Not bad.
John C Dvorak: I like it. Clear.
To the point. Yes, it is. And
then best thing. Best thing to
ever happen
Unknown: to the internet.
Adam Curry: Yeah. Okay. That's
the winner right there. You knew
that was gonna win. That's
beautiful. I love it. Good news.
Good. Good news. Good news. Good
news. Good news. And good news.
As we wind up our broadcast day,
John, what do we have today?
John C Dvorak: It's about 102
year old woman's birthday. And
she is a hard work and volunteer
and she's just good keeps on
truckin.
Adam Curry: You sound like Who
was the guy on the Today Show?
The weather guy he used to do
we've got a shout out to the Oh
yes, his name's not Ah,
John C Dvorak: there's a big fat
guy. Yeah, dead guy is dead now.
Unknown: What was his name?
Alright, now St. Mary's
celebrated one of their longtime
volunteers yesterday. Surely
souls just turned 102 Are
Jessica Livingstone was at the
celebration where the birthday
girl danced the party away and
shared a little advice
surely shows a three time cancer
survivor has been volunteering
for St. Mary's for more than two
decades. She sorts papers and
does what she calls the grunt
work because she says it's what
keeps her going. Give
yourself community gives back to
you. So it works two ways. To me
volunteering is really very
important. Shirley's
life is a whirlwind with
heirlooms for hospice on
Mondays, St. Mary's on Wednesday
and lunch with her friends on
Friday. But she was confides she
could be busier in case you're
looking for a volunteer. So
Monday, Wednesday and Friday,
I'm booked, but I'm open for
Tuesday and Thursday if
anybody's aware.
Anyone hoping to make it as far
as she has, she shares this life
advice, but
you have to like yourself so you
can like others and help others
have to want to do that.
Surely spice for life never
stops for her. It's all been a
grand intoxicating adventure by
single
malt scotch and my wine tasting.
And my traveling all over the
world. drives my family crazy. I
was in Africa celebrating my
95th birthday on a camping
trip. So giving and loving her
door is always open to new and
old friends. Five
530 The news and the wine. I
have any kind of snacks you
want. So come on over Happy
Birthday surely. years to many,
many more.
Adam Curry: I that was a good
one. I like it. I like it. I'd
like to drink an old granny.
Yes. She
John C Dvorak: says fanciful
malt scotch.
Adam Curry: I love wine.
Willard. Willard Scott was the
name we were Willard Scotland's.
I love that chick. That's I
mean, if I'm going to be the
vaping Granny, I'm going to be
the vaping grandpa. Hey, give me
a single malt scotch. I'm going
to vape in your face. This is
heavy.
Good news, everybody. We love
the good news segments. Very
controversial. Very
controversial, very
controversial. Links
John C Dvorak: to grouches out
there. Very controversial
segment.
Adam Curry: And we'll tell you
later
John C Dvorak: good news. Good
Adam Curry: news. Hey, we got
some more facts coming up next.
If you want to know about the
beef between Kendrick Lamar and
John C Dvorak: the other guy
yeah, what's his name? Yeah,
that
Adam Curry: guy. Kendrick Lamar.
Oh, yeah, the the Canadian
Drake, Drake, Drake, and its
implications on black America.
It's all coming up next. I know
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Unknown: Good stuff.
Adam Curry: Coming to you from
Fredericksburg, Texas, the heart
of the Texas Hill Country FEMA
Region number six in the
morning, everybody.
John C Dvorak: I'm Adam curry
from Northern Silicon Valley.
I'm John C. Dvorak. We'll be
back on Sunday.
Adam Curry: Please join us
looking forward to it. In the
meantime, remember us at divorce
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Unknown: I got no agenda when it
comes to the distracts rapid
rails no conspiracy theory of
spinning says that they'll do
the research to back you up with
some C span expose the memes
wants you back to your kids as
they bless you with knighthood
TSA is grabbing ball sacks from
the back to pick your flight
good security they say just a
small fire gets a civil
liberties taken away they think
a paranoid paranoid paranoid cuz
they don't like what I'm saying
they think a paranoid they think
I'm paranoid paranoid cuz they
don't like what I say they think
I'm paranoid you think I'm
paranoid paranoid paranoid to
the to the resources that Schiff
says see in the morning at Curry
here my man Chelsea and I hit
him in the mouth and listen to
what I'm talking about. Don't
let your free country go because
you want to give it up too fast
and reacted too slow spending
all our money in the land where
the poppies bring it back as
some hair you know paranoid cuz
they don't like what I'm saying.
They think got paranoid paranoid
cuz they don't like what I'm
saying you think paranoid cuz
they don't like what I'm saying
Adam Curry: they don't like what
I say. Time to celebrate
John C Dvorak: because of bird
flu
Adam Curry: very fishy 11 years
of colder weather we need no
agenda fear scale just in time
for Pride Month Do you have a
scar snare? Are you serious in
this country about the potential
impact of the h five n one bird
flu on humans is a money making
scheme. This has to be rejected.
It's fake each five and one is
mutating into a form that could
spread from human to human a lot
of people getting worried
Unknown: I saw nothing the virus
is now spread among dairy cattle
across nine different states.
Adam Curry: This is bull crap.
This is a hoax. We got to have
queers now.
John C Dvorak: If they have
birth to Jesus dropped dead it's
only
Unknown: a matter of time
hospitalizations for COVID are
at an all time Whoa.
John C Dvorak: But nothing got
blowed up.
Adam Curry: Clear. How worried
should they be right now? My
telephone poles were on fire.
The risk to you right now is
very low. But breaking Typhoid
Mary oh the herd nonbinary no
binary No, no Nari and coronal
mass ejections. What is going
on? Where
Unknown: is it? How what is it
spread?
Adam Curry: They're phonies.
They're all phones. We've been
Unknown: duped alarm bells
should really start going off
rare severe
geomagnetic storm warning.
John C Dvorak: actually played
there. Sony says that piece of
crap. Joe Biden. It is
Unknown: scary and it does sound
scary.
Adam Curry: blue haired people
are all upset with
petrochemicals and sawdust is
now food increase in cancer
mortality after a third COVID
dose. I love it.
Unknown: Viral fragments in
Europe is last figure out what
the dominant strains gonna be
Adam Curry: Satan on the way I
think we're going away this is
not going to end well for you.
Now that's the winning song out
of protesting telling your kid
you're good to go.
Unknown: It is scary and it does
sound scary.
Adam Curry: Even the smallpox
vaccine of course started
smallpox epidemics.
Unknown: Superstar
John C Dvorak: not on the list.
Unknown: If you read into the
denizens of a bar in Secretary
of State Anthony Blinken, he
went to a bar and jams with a
local Ukrainian
rock band. He was banned jeans
and black shirt because he's so
cool. We're a war torn
country that is facing genocidal
demolition equal to vegan jam
and party with a bunch of people
who are drinking
it. They have been living they
will be funded for ever.
And it was obviously for the
cameras. This was all planned
and all staged. Who was this
for? Exactly?
It does not offend a message of
desperation on the part of the
Fein
Secretary stapling a jamming in
a foreign key of well, you're
forced to cough up 10s of
billions of dollars that we
don't have for the war. There
are too many failed theater kids
actors and musicians in
politics.
The actual band they were told
someone famous was going to come
and play with them. They were
told it was the young.
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