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Adam Curry: were baking. Adam
curry, John C. Dvorak. Thursday,
June 27 2024. This Year Award
Winning Combination media
assassination episode 1670. This
is no agenda running on backups
and broadcasting live from the
heart of the Texas hill country
here in FEMA Region number six
in the morning, everybody. I'm
Adam curry, and
John C Dvorak: from Northern
Silicon Valley words another
nice day. I'm John C. Dvorak.
Buzzkill.
Adam Curry: show prep is hard,
man. It's a grind. It's a grind
to
John C Dvorak: tell you this
year, June where we normally
have a kind of a mild summer is
and then it gets cold is,
especially in July. It was
miserable last year. It was
gloomy every day of June I
bitched and moaned about initial
state cold, it didn't warm up
until October. Did you go back
two years more normal?
Adam Curry: Did you go back in
your diary and look it up?
John C Dvorak: No, I remember
it. It was so miserable.
Adam Curry: Before we started a
couple of couple by
John C Dvorak: the way, wait,
wait. I advice to people out
there who are younger.
Especially if you're going to be
a writer that's ever for anybody
just just to be an even a normal
person. Do a diary. Do
Adam Curry: a diary. Do a diary.
Yes, I do a diary. Do you do a
diary? No,
John C Dvorak: I wish I did what
you can.
Adam Curry: It's never too late
to start.
John C Dvorak: It's too late to
start.
Adam Curry: Do you know that I
still have diaries.com and that
every day someone asked to buy
that from me
John C Dvorak: what you have
diaries.com?
Adam Curry: I do? I do. But no
one ever no one ever hits my
number. They're like, yeah, and
the worst is like
John C Dvorak: what do you tell
us what the number is publicly
and maybe somebody will
Unknown: one Bitcoin? 10 That's
too low. No
Adam Curry: one's ever even
bitten for that.
John C Dvorak: You're now my
official art.com sold for
Adam Curry: it. That's art.com
that's not diaries.com.
John C Dvorak: Teto $1 million.
Adam Curry: Okay. Oh, if you can
get a million dollars, we'll
give you half.
Unknown: Okay. Oh,
Adam Curry: all of a sudden,
JCPS Oh, I have to make an
announcement. During this
program. Our troll fact checkers
will be muting our mics if
either of us starts to spew
disinformation? Or if we're
talking over each other.
John C Dvorak: Well, I tell you,
then how they could possibly be
mute. Out of the blue? Because I
think it would sound terrible.
Adam Curry: That's really funny.
That's a good gag. John, I'd
like to do that is very funny.
Two other mentions, I have to
let you know. We discussed on
the previous episode about my
hard drive. In the Beelink.
John C Dvorak: You Yes, we did.
Adam Curry: And I of course had
ordered a replacement drive. I
had the connectors I'm ready to
do the the what is it? The
ghosting and yesterday I didn't
do any i I'll tell you why I
didn't do anything on Tuesday,
Wednesday morning. I walk in and
it fails.
John C Dvorak: is done is tele
we talked about last show at the
end of the show in the miracle
blur. And that may may occur
with the post mortem where we
talk about you
Adam Curry: said what do we want
we talked about on the show. We
talked about this about this
drive. And then I had to get a
new drive and I didn't even have
time to do it. It failed on
Wednesday. So I'm running on the
backup machine. The whole
Beelink is toast. I don't think
I can I don't think I can bring
that drive back to life.
Probably not. And then so I open
up this Beelink thinking oh,
this might as well do it. And
then you open it up. You open
the bottom. It's like oh,
there's a nice little slot for
there's no drive in there. No,
no, you've got to open it. You
got to break this whole case.
John C Dvorak: That's for an add
on driving. I
Adam Curry: know but it's not
like the easiest to get this
thing out of the Beelink it
sucks. I'm sad I ever took your
advice to get one. I have to
John C Dvorak: I had to be
linked at the same thing
happened. I have. I have another
one now. Same thing happened. I
too. I warned you about getting
it out of there as fast as you
could which you didn't, which I
did. I
Adam Curry: was like I was going
as fast as I could, which I did.
It wasn't fast enough. But
John C Dvorak: getting the drive
in and out of that thing is not
that hard. It's not like a
miserable. Let
Adam Curry: me ask you a
question. Does the Beelink that
failed on you? Does that contain
the password to divorce.org/na?
Is that? Is that the drive that
failed? Why? Well because you're
unable to change that.
John C Dvorak: Well, all I know
is this was over probably a year
and a half Two years ago, so I
don't remember who probably had
a password or two on it, but it
was beside the point. I'm more
cautious now and I back
everything up. I'm
Adam Curry: very cautious so I'm
now I'm running on the on the
surface eight. Which, who knows
how those things were that thing
that you can do anything with
that drive? It's baked in there.
It's solid
John C Dvorak: baked. Yeah,
that's the idea. That way the
whole machine is toast you can't
change anything or fix it and
then the other just shouldn't be
illegal.
Adam Curry: Just a minor
announcement. I had a
periodontal procedure on
Tuesday, so I'm a bit swollen
and and it only luckily it only
really hurts when I really
laugh, but I had a bone graft so
Unknown: some compassion please
John C Dvorak: I'm supposed to
completely eliminate my humorous
one liners and the rest
Adam Curry: It's already hurting
stop
John C Dvorak: you stop laugh I
told him throw some willpower
man
Adam Curry: I told him I say
can't we do this you know after
the show on Thursday said no no
no Adam there's there's a I got
a cocktail party this is a
special on Hamas bone this month
so we might as well do it now.
Hey, oh, there it is. If you
hear me go Allahu Akbar. You'll
know why I don't
John C Dvorak: understand where
they probably put the implant I
don't understand it probably
microphone is now in your mouth.
Oh
Adam Curry: it's it's the
implant is already in there I
did some bone graft that arm
because the bone microphone
John C Dvorak: grafted on
Adam Curry: okay, you can just
listen to the podcast you don't
need to be listening to my built
in grafted microphone. While we
John C Dvorak: get that way they
can they can pick up what we say
after the show which is not
broadcast. Oh, yeah.
Adam Curry: Well, which is
mainly consists of you saying?
Told you so told you. Is it a
John C Dvorak: nice try. That's
you.
Adam Curry: Anyway, today every
everybody in M five M land is
all GD all jacked up. Oh, it's
the big day. It's debate day.
John C Dvorak: Today's big day,
Adam Curry: it's the big day.
It's a big day. It kind of
overshadows Assange. To be fair
about Assange
John C Dvorak: was I think it's
almost timed that were I think
they why did they release
Assange during this like last
week? I have a I have a series
of Assange clips. By the way, if
you want to talk about
Adam Curry: let me do a
background and then you play
your Assange clips. This is a
shorty Julian Assange
Unknown: spent the day traveling
video released by his team
documenting his journey today on
a private jet from the UK to
Bangkok. And finally, the
Northern Mariana Islands, where
he's just landed. And when
appear in the US court, the
Justice Department's 18 charges
against him, including
conspiring with Army
Intelligence Officer Chelsea
Manning to hack us secrets
reduced to just one plea deal.
And he will get credit for time
served five and a half years in
a UK jail. In 2010. Assange is
WikiLeaks released a trove of
material including details of
the killing of civilians in Iraq
and Afghanistan. This the end of
a long standoff, his next will
likely be Australia, where his
wife and children are waiting
for him.
Adam Curry: I'm always baffled
why NBC has Brett's doing all
the reporting. Why don't we do
we run out of American
reporters?
John C Dvorak: There has to be
some study that was done.
Adam Curry: Yeah, it's more
serious if it's from a Brit.
Right. In
John C Dvorak: certain
instances, they felt obliged to
use Brett's because it conveys
some subtext that we don't
understand because we never saw
the study.
Adam Curry: Okay, fair enough, I
think yeah, possibly. It's a
little irksome.
John C Dvorak: It is I don't
like it either.
Adam Curry: They don't have
American journalists over there
on the BBC.
John C Dvorak: Not that I can
tell you this. I haven't seen
any.
Unknown: No. All right. So you
have some asides? If PBS
John C Dvorak: break down, okay.
And it was, it's fairly
complete, it went on and on and
on, it went a lot further. It
had the they brought in an
expert who hated Assange, and
stuff should be shot, and
answered old PBS, and some, and
this guy was like a stooge, if
there ever was I did clip it.
And then they had a counterpoint
some kind of a wimpy, freedom of
speech guy who's willing, you
know, I don't think so. So that
wasn't worth it. But I think the
overall coverage was okay, let's
go with Assange one, elitist
voices of America.
Unknown: This is NPR or PBS
WikiLeaks founder Julian
Assange, a brave whistleblower
to his allies. A national
security threat to his critics,
is on the verge of being a free
man.
Assange is pleading guilty in a
court in the Northern Mariana
Islands that's the US
commonwealth and will be
sentenced to time served
allowing him to return to his
native Australia. Nick Schifrin
is here tracking the story.
Nick,
critic Jeff Assange is notorious
for some of the largest leaks of
classified information in US
history, as well as posting
emails that played an outsized
role in the 2016 election. And
tonight, the Wikileaks founder
is ending a decade long legal
saga with us and heading home
tonight Julian Assange has brief
and final moments on US soil to
appear and perhaps the US is
most remote courthouse on the
Northern Mariana Islands. His
road to freedom began this
morning on the way to a British
airport and signing his plea
deal documents and landing in
Bangkok his first time outside
the United Kingdom in 14 years.
Court documents reveal that
Assange will plead guilty to a
single felony to receive and
obtain documents writings and
notes connected with the
National Defense including such
materials classified up to the
secret level, and willfully
communicate documents relating
to the national defense. He will
spend no time in US jail, and
more than 62 months spent in a
British prison will count for
time served allowing him to
return to his native Australia
or prime minister Anthony
Albanese today celebrated his
release regardless
John C Dvorak: of the views that
people have about Mr. Assange as
activities the case has dragged
on for too long. Yeah, yeah.
Adam Curry: Do you have any
opinion in general on the the
fact that he took a plea deal?
John C Dvorak: As it was a wise
thing to do? He wanted to get
out of there. I think there was
a couple of peculiarities I
thought since when does time
served in a British prison count
as time served in America? Are
we running the whole world like
that? So that that prison is the
same as one of ours?
Adam Curry: I could make that
case. Yeah, I could make the
case Hey, we let them do our
news. We might as well you know
control their jails
John C Dvorak: I guess so.
Adam Curry: It just seems like
on one hand because I read the
plea agreement which was quite
extensive and and of course what
really what what really isn't
discussed because we you know,
we have we're doing the show and
this came out it's only
mentioned a little bit even have
that background or clip I played
is really the horrendous video
that means I think that's really
what the big the big issue was.
John C Dvorak: I agree I that
they showed that video on this
report. Oh, they did and it
showed it a lot. Oh, okay. Yeah,
they showed that video and that
video weed let's back
Adam Curry: up but not with
audio. Audio. Were they gonna
like yeah, this audio? Yes.
Smoking really with the smoke of
milk. Wow. Okay, so they had
John C Dvorak: a video this is
everyone should know this. But
we're just going to remind
everyone that one of the first
things Wiki Leaks did that was
really pretty substantial. Was
they showed a video that was
captured. I don't know where
they got it from. One of the
choppers in this was Apache
helicopters Apache helicopter.
And was this in Iraq, Iran,
Iraq, Iraq, okay. There wasn't
Iran. Obviously, it was either
Iraq or Afghanistan. So it was
Iraq. And then they had this
video showing there was two
Reuters reporters, and they had
targeted one of them. These are
news guys. And they gunned him
down from this from the
helicopter.
Adam Curry: Oh, not even that.
But then when the ambulance
showed up, they shot the
ambulance. Yeah, they shot they
shot up to place I mean, that's
exactly what we accused the
terrorists of doing it was it
was nasty. The the chilling
John C Dvorak: and I use that
word advisedly. The chilling
aspect was the matter of fact
attitude of the of the
helicopter pilots in sight. They
didn't give a shit they were
just okay. Let's get him a smoke
them and they were just, it was
very matter of fact.
Adam Curry: Yeah. But now to be
fair, it's cold. It was cold
blooded. To be fair, when you're
in a war situation, and I've
been to Iraq during the war.
Nobody knows anything. And you
just get I mean, I can see.
John C Dvorak: I'm not gonna
argue that no, but it was to the
American public to see this,
witness it and listen to these
guys. It was hearable was to
Adam Curry: now he really only
didn't get arrested until the
Hillary and Podesta emails I
think that's that's when they
put their foot down.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, they did
that and they so they set those
they found some Swedish girls
that accused him of a row. Yeah,
there was that whole thing you
don't forget that. That's how
they got that's how he first got
his ticket in the ringer, so to
speak. And that was a fake deal.
That was some phony baloney
thing about that because they
pulled out of it after they
jailed him and then once he went
to the equity or an embassy they
could, they cancelled that part
because now he was because he
went out on bail and then jumped
into the embassy. And that meant
he was a bail for lontar. And so
now they had, they could put him
back in jail because he didn't
violate his terms of the bail it
the whole thing was just a scam.
But this report also includes
something that I thought was
very. This is classic PBS
propaganda in here, you'll hear
it, you'll catch it because I
kind of ended on one of his
notes that's played part two,
there is nothing to be gained by
his continued incarceration and
we want him brought home to
Australia, of course of the war
Unknown: needs to change. nearly
15 years ago, Assange presented
himself as the ultimate truth
teller, revealing what he called
the reality of the wars in Iraq
and Afghanistan. 1007 US
military tech in Baghdad that
killed two Reuters journalists,
WikiLeaks dropped 400,000
classified documents that the
Pentagon said risk us informants
lives. They were leaked by US
Army Intelligence Analyst
Chelsea Manning, later convicted
under the Espionage Act 2010 He
was arrested by British
authorities after two Swedish
women accused him of sexual
assault charges later dropped.
And after he failed to make
bail, he fled into Ecuador's
Embassy in London, where he
remained for seven years as
WikiLeaks stands under threat.
So does the freedom of
expression. Wikileaks has
released what appears to be
transcripts in 2016, WikiLeaks
posted documents that Russian
intelligence had hacked from the
Hillary Clinton campaign.
No, that's not true.
John C Dvorak: Exactly. You
caught it. Yeah,
Adam Curry: that's not how that
went down. It was Podesta got
fished. If I recall correctly.
Well,
John C Dvorak: that was that was
one element, but we're talking
about the stuff that was taken,
believed to be taken by Seth.
Oh,
Adam Curry: Seth Rich? Oh, yes,
of course. Of course. Hey. Huh,
by the way, by the way, it was I
think that they should say, just
to be correct, because it bugs
me that he he got those
documents from Bradley Manning,
who later became Chelsea
Manning,
John C Dvorak: they should do
that. But I'm going back to this
this other issue, which was the
yes claims, because Because
Assange himself said this did
not come from the Russians. Yes.
I
Adam Curry: remember he did the
interview in the Netherlands
about he made a big fuss about
John C Dvorak: and not it's not
the Russians, and what would the
Russians got to do with it? They
didn't care. They far as they're
concerned that Hillary could
have gotten in doesn't make any
difference to them. But this is
the beginning. That was the
beginning of the Russia hoax.
Momentum began with that notion
that the Russian stoled emails
from Hillary, right, it's not.
And there's no evidence of it,
they can't prove that it's just
an assertion that the left wing
media was and and PBS made. And
they're sticking to it, because
here we are, what, a decade
later, and they're still saying
it. I find that to be abhorrent
in
Adam Curry: a Mayport. Maybe
there's another shoe to drop
somewhere?
John C Dvorak: I don't I don't
think so. I think the reason
they did this during this debate
moment is so nobody notices that
Assange has even been released.
It's really been downplayed the
Adam Curry: jet that he got on
from what I gathered was sent by
kim.com. He central that he's
the prime know that. Yeah. And
of course kim.com has all the
documents, which now some of the
Hillary emails seem to be
missing from the WikiLeaks, sir.
Well, they
John C Dvorak: took him down.
Yeah. Yeah, I think that was
part of the deal. I think that
was the unwritten part of the
deal. Yeah,
Adam Curry: it wasn't in the
written deal. So it must have
been part of it. Weird. Weird.
Yeah. That
John C Dvorak: of all those
Hillary emails are gone. I just
Adam Curry: can't help feeling
but the timing? Yeah. I don't
know. I don't know what I don't
know. I want I don't know, I
just said I don't know, you can
ask, you know, but
John C Dvorak: do you have any
idea what it means? What do you
think is it I think, any
thoughts at
Adam Curry: all? How something
with Seth Rich, there's some
remember that that, you know,
there was a server, the DNC
John C Dvorak: laptop that's
that's never been released, that
FBI took a while
Adam Curry: and went to Ukraine
to CrowdStrike. There's a lot of
messiness in this messiness. And
Lenski did just change out his
top guy once again, maybe
John C Dvorak: to put Assange
in.
Unknown: Final Report, Clinton
said it helped lead to her
defeat, he has to answer for
what he has done, at least as
it's been charged by 2019. The
US Grand jury indicted Assange
on 18 accounts, including
espionage The Embassy evicted
him and British authorities
arrested him for bail violation
of free speech Crusader to his
allies a threat to national
security to his critics. Assange
will now be able to write a new
chapter in Australia with his
wife Stella
I'll really believe it when I
have him in front of me and and
I can take him and hug him and
and then it will be real, you
know.
Adam Curry: Now of course, this
doesn't bode well for the media.
In essence this was the by
pleading guilty you know, you're
saying well, you can't publish
that that's what the whole
document is filled with. Like
this was top secret classified
you can't publish kind of this.
You can't do that. To Chris
Cuomo. Remember? Remember Cuomo
said you can't even watch that.
Unknown: Right? Yeah, I
Adam Curry: can't even read the
documents.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, I remember
that. I wish I could find that.
I wish I could. Yeah, Cuomo is
say you tell him which if you're
a spook is true, which makes it
even weirder. Yeah. See books.
If you're working for this, we
found this out from spooks. If
you're a spook, you can't can't
look at certain things that are
actually in the public domain
which has never made any sense
to me and and no one's ever
explained it fully.
Adam Curry: Well, because you
you you have to live by certain
rules. I guess. I don't have the
clip. I don't have like I wish I
had that. 30 rules or what the
rules of the of the Deep State
man the rules of the you know,
the kingdom.
John C Dvorak: Can you ever
think and funny thing? No, let's
Adam Curry: not do it. I have
one. Let me see if there's any
any different slant from a
democracy now. Morning. AMY
GOODMAN flippin bound.
Unknown: Well, WikiLeaks founder
Julian Assange is home in
Australia, a free man Assange
his arrival in Australia, and
more than 12 year legal ordeal
after he published classified
documents detailing US war
crimes in Iraq and Afghanistan.
Press Freedom groups have
denounced successive US
administrations for targeting
Assange, who'd been facing 175
years and US prison if he'd been
extradited and convicted. 12
years ago this month, Assange
entered the Ecuadorian Embassy
where he was given political
asylum. He spent seven years
there. He has spent the last
five years locked up in the
harsh Belmarsh prison in London
Parsh. Earlier today, Julian
Assange flew from London to the
Pacific island of Saipan and
Northern Mariana Islands, where
he entered a US District Court
and pled guilty to a single
felony count of illegally
obtaining and disclosing
national security material. The
judge Ramona Magalona sentenced
him to the five years he'd
already spent behind bars
saying, quote, you will be able
to walk out of this courtroom of
free man, I hope there will be
some peace restored. She said.
Adam Curry: No, no, I don't see
the media going. Hey, man,
that's offsides. We should we be
able to publish what we want?
John C Dvorak: Oh, there's been
some complaining but it's been
very minor. Yeah. And it's by by
people like Tucker.
Adam Curry: You saw Tucker in
Australia? That was amazing.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, Tucker in
Australia. It's it's a long
clip. It's about 20 minutes of
this one segment the question
and answers and people should
look that up. It's on son, the
Twitter for sure. And he just
goes after some of these people
that are the Australian
journalists and it's, it's
almost like he's talking to a
robot in one or two cases where
they insult some and tell it
says they're stupid, and they
just keep asking dumb questions.
Yeah, the damnedest thing I've
ever seen. I was trying to clip
it, but I thought it was me.
Adam Curry: I even I actually
pulled the clip, but it's three
minutes, you know, it's
John C Dvorak: tight enough,
but, but he's at his best. He's,
and he's laughing it up. And
he's, he's, he's been sent there
for some something.
Adam Curry: I presume he's there
to interview Julian Assange.
John C Dvorak: That will that
was what everybody thought. And
I'm sure he will use that. But
yeah, but what is the point of
this thing that we witnessed on
the on Twitter, this this
meeting of the journalist in
Australia of him giving a
keynote or some sort of a speech
and then insulting everybody?
Adam Curry: It was a little
unclear to me if it was because
I think there are only a couple
of Australian journalists there.
I because there was a lot of
hooting and hollering and
clapping for him. So those
weren't the journalists. I'm
sure. It was unclear exactly
what that was.
John C Dvorak: It was unclear
and I wish there was more
context that they just posted
it.
Adam Curry: It's kind of nice to
see the awakening of Tucker
though. And a little I always
thought he was playing more dumb
when he was on Fox. You know
that then he was letting on but
he really he really didn't know
how bad it was. And to see this
awakening is fun, but you know,
what does it do more than Yeah,
you're showing checker. It's not
gonna change anything. Bunch of
people retweeting those, those
good change. Majority of people
still look at the news and go,
Oh, yeah, yep. Yep, that seems
about right. It does make the
news in general doesn't make for
some some funny. I mean, that's,
it helps our show a lot. Because
they are so stupid, though, is
the So tonight, we have that guy
got a number of, of like, pre
pre debate clips, just because
it's so I mean, it's so
Unknown: show businessy is very
John C Dvorak: Yeah, can I
imagine I mentioned something
here. And I do have one example.
And maybe I'll play it after you
play your clips. There has been
an inundation of produced clips,
pro Trump clips that are
attacking Joe Biden. And I think
it's borderline sick the way
they go after him. It is highly
entertaining. Hello. But it is.
Unbelievably, I would say it has
to be categorized as sick.
Adam Curry: Give me an example
of what is oh, I
John C Dvorak: don't know if I
even do I have one. I think I
think I found one. But it's all
kinds of stuff. They have just a
man on the street. There was a
whole series of this one guy
here this will live in your life
and they go from they just play
a million guy on the street. And
everybody's pro Trump black,
white, Mexican, Chinese. And it
just goes on and never ends. I'm
gonna see if I have
Adam Curry: viral clips. This is
not on the mainstream media.
This just by Oh, no, these
John C Dvorak: are all viral
clips. But they've all been very
well. They're very well
structured. Here's a talk anti
Biden clip. This is what the
typical. Okay, here we go. Look,
I'm
Unknown: not a young guy. That's
no secret. But here's the deal.
I understand how to get these
time for the illegal aliens. I
encourage the surge of illegals
at the US border, I would in
fact make sure that there is we
immediately surge to the border.
I got it done. You know how I
know the border is wide open. I
sent my girl Kamala to take care
of it. Do not come. Do not come.
I believe the job of the
president is to fight for you
with foreign invaders, then
that's what I'm doing. I'm a
complete dipshit and I approve
this message.
Adam Curry: That was good. But I
thought some of the stuff that
hit the mainstream was even
better. First, let me let me
give you a little horse race.
This is how it is for those of
you not in America. This is how
it's presented. Biden
Unknown: Trump they both want
your vote and both won a second
term. Now they make their case
as they face each other. Watch
the CNN presidential debate
simulcast live on ABC Thursday
night at 9am. Eastern.
Adam Curry: I mean, come by,
like UFC. Where's Rogen? Get him
in there? Yeah, really? So
Martin Short. Yeah. Who doesn't
know Martin Short. He's on ABC.
And he makes a little Biden
joke. I
Unknown: Kyle, let me ask you
this. Did you hear the news
about Starbucks? No, no. What's
the news? Now this is
fascinating. Starbucks launched
a new energy drink today. It's
called iced energy. And it's the
same amount of caffeine as six
cans of Coke, and food. And it's
now available to every
Starbucks. Just in time for Joe
Biden to shoot it up as asked me
for the debate on Thursday.
Adam Curry: Come on. That's good
one. Yeah, like that at all. CNN
took a little. I mean, the fact
that they're discussing this is
what would just makes me smile.
Unknown: I think some of the
rhetoric, Speaker Johnson, I
mean, just knowing you and how
you conduct yourself using some
of the rhetoric is out of line
when when people from Trump's
team are suggesting the Trump
himself that Biden is going to
be on cocaine when he's on the
debates.
John C Dvorak: There's a lot of
things by the way, just as a
because I've heard the speeches
that Trump did he was gonna get
a shot in the ass you know, and
all this and he mentions cocaine
in there says I wonder what
happened to all that cocaine in
the white but that's as far as
he goes with it. Right? It's the
media that's picked up
Adam Curry: the cocaine me Why
are they bringing it up? I mean,
they love
John C Dvorak: it because
they're all coked up have him
themselves when he's
Unknown: on that debate stage
Thursday night.
Look, there's a lot of things
that are said in jest of course,
no one is spects that Joe Biden
will be on cocaine, but they
they do.
Adam Curry: Now, of course, no
one's sure he'd be on cocaine
like you already.
Unknown: They do ask questions.
And I think they're, they're
objectively. I mean, I think it
makes sense why people are
asking, Will it be on some sort
of energy drinks or something?
Okay. Look, his energy levels
you can see vary depending on
what format he's in and what
forum and, you know, we expected
he'll do what he did at the
State of the Union. He had a lot
of energy that night. So that's
the Joe Biden, I expect to see
that the question is, can he
stay for 90 minutes on that
stage and go toe to toe with,
with President Trump, who is,
you know, goes to rallies and
talks for two hours on end
without any break and any notes.
So it'll be a very interesting
thing to see.
I mean, the allegations just
about drugs have just been,
frankly, ridiculous and,
obviously are baseless
Adam Curry: based obviously,
obviously, basis. Why basis,
obviously baseless, it's got to
be something going on. CNN
making a big deal about the
technology. There's a lot of
tech going on here a lot of
technology about these mic mutes
Yeah, this is something we've
never ever done. Before I want
this, we got green buttons, we
got make mute. Let's, let's do a
little let's do a little package
on it.
Unknown: If we go behind the
podiums, you can see two green
lights. When they're on they
signal to the candidate, his
microphone is on. When the green
lights are off, they signal to
the candidate his microphone is
off. Now I want to give you a
sense of what it will look like
for viewers at home if a
candidate who's microphone is
off, interrupts a candidate
whose microphone is on. So I'm
standing at one podium, and I'll
ask Phil to come in and take the
other podium. And so let's say
I'm answering a question. My
light is green, and I'm
speaking, Phil's microphone is
off and his green lights are not
illuminated. He's going to
interrupt me as I'm speaking and
this is what it will sound like
this my volume remains constant
while Phil's interruption can be
difficult to understand.
Let's try the opposite. My
microphone is now on Victor's
microphone is off, and he's
going to interrupt me. My volume
remains constant while Victor's
interruption can be difficult to
understand. A Siemens production
team has shared this
demonstration with the
campaign's earlier today, and
we're sharing it with you, our
viewers, so everyone fully
understands how tomorrow night
will work. Now, we should know,
by agreeing to participate in
this debate. Both campaigns and
candidates have also agreed to
abide by these rules. Yes,
the rules. The rule. Isn't this
now I
John C Dvorak: shouldn't have
clipped the meme that was
created from that particular
piece. Oh, I don't know if you
saw it. Probably not. But it's
on Twitter. It's the station
does the exact same thing. But
as the guy says the now when
he's his mic is off. And then
you hear Biden is an idiot. And
he goes on and on. You can hear
both sides. And it's just, it's,
it's, it's pretty funny. It's
not, you know, but this again,
is part of a barrage of negative
Biden, memes and virals. They're
out there. The end, there's not
just one or two, there's, I'm
There must be hundreds of them.
And there, most of them are
quite funny. And it's very
aggressive. It's much. I'd say,
if you go back to 2015 2016 when
Trump was running against
Hillary, and you had those few
crazy ads that were running on
Facebook, the $100,000 worth of
ads, supposedly that was going
to sway the election somehow.
They're these are much more
aggressive. This is this is
pretty funny.
Adam Curry: The format of the
debate kind of is not a
throwback to like the 60s when
they used to do that with it
would just there wasn't even an
audience wasn't
John C Dvorak: Yes, Kennedy.
Nixon
Adam Curry: was no audience.
Yeah. And that turned out that
worked well for Kennedy. Yeah,
because Nixon was sweating. Oh,
that's right. Well, and
ultimately, that's what this is
about. We it's all about the
ones. I mean, it's all about the
one soundbite. I mean, I still
remember Reagan. He said, I
won't hold the senators age
against him, because he's a much
younger man. You know, it's
John C Dvorak: like,
inexperienced, inexperienced.
Adam Curry: That's right. It's
all about the one single
soundbite. And
John C Dvorak: my favorite one
is still I forgot who I think it
was, who was it was a vice
presidential debate where the
guest says you're no John
Kennedy, right? Well, I knew
John Kennedy. You're no jacket.
The thing is, of course, I don't
remember who that particular
candidate was because there's a
VP, but it was a good line.
Adam Curry: But then Biden
actually use that line later and
said, Oh, now you're Jack
Kennedy. Yeah. He used that in a
debate. Yeah,
John C Dvorak: he tried to
plagiarize it, but he couldn't.
Well, that's all he does.
Adam Curry: He can't even
plagiarize. Well. So, you know,
obviously Biden has has one
obvious one, convicted felon,
Trump has unconvicted felon.
Okay. You know, I think if Trump
is just calm, and
John C Dvorak: he, he just yeah,
this is the main issue that I
think it can do it and maybe
maybe not Sorry to say I don't
think it's gonna make a lot of
difference one way or the other.
No, this
Adam Curry: is this is just UFC.
This is just, I mean there's
debate parties there was getting
together and yeah, I'm a friends
of mine. Oh, I'm on a boat but I
got my starting so I can watch
the debate is debate night.
Like,
John C Dvorak: okay yeah it's a
course you're gonna watch it I'm
gonna watch it we're not gonna
be able to resist. Yeah.
Adam Curry: I have some more in
depth discussion about this from
MSNBC with Andrea Mitchell who
brings in the illustrious a
Chuck Todd from the podcast. The
Biden
Unknown: and the Trump campaigns
are looking at tomorrow's debate
for a major opportunity to shake
up a tight race possibly even
trip up their opponents and
disease Chief Political Analyst
Chuck Todd arguing that Biden
and Trump have more to lose than
gain from this first debate. And
Chuck joins me now along with
USA Today's Washington bureau
chief Susan Page. Great to have
the two of you. You've seen so
many debates, hits and misses
chuck, chuck, what's what do
they got to lose?
Adam Curry: Well, I will say
this, we fall into this trap
before where we get so excited
about a first confrontation.
Sometimes it's the first primary
debate or first general election
debate. And then we always go
wow, they didn't they didn't
really lay a glove on each
other. They really were sort of
feeling each other out. And it's
like, yeah, because Oh, that
would be horrible. If we don't
have any, any anything to play
for suddenly, their operatives
remind the candidates, hey,
there's a lot of people tuning
into you guys for the very first
time you're making a first
impression. And he and Well,
these guys have already made
their first impressions.
Arguably, there's still somewhat
of that. And I do think, you
know, six weeks ago, Biden
really needed to do something to
shake up the race. What's
interesting is that in the last
six weeks, I could argue both
campaigns have gotten steadier.
Both campaigns feel better about
their current state, and
operationally, both campaigns
are in a better place than they
were six weeks ago. And so when
you're entering a debate where
you're actually feeling like
your path to victory is visible
to you, you're gonna be a little
more risk averse and I just look
these are the I'm not saying
Captain chaos won't show up.
Captain if you're coming from
the perspective of the operators
I've talked to I think this
firework even people think
John C Dvorak: operatives so the
talking about well, the opposite
Luke's
Adam Curry: the operatives are
Jake Tapper and Dana Bash.
Hello. Yeah,
John C Dvorak: I think they're
part of the whole thing. But
yeah, I should mention that Lisa
was put in the newsletter. Oh,
yeah. One of our producers
dropped coach said, this is the
reason for the week long delay
so they can do a new mask. Yep.
And create a new perfect mask
because they can do the mat.
They do our masks out there. You
can if you're,
Adam Curry: I'm all in on the
masks. The masks are real. And
they work and they're very
convincing. And they're
undetectable. I know from my own
family's experience. And
John C Dvorak: you have so you
have a new guy, a new actor and
a Biden mask with the Polish
teeth and they're gay sounds a
lot like Biden, but he may or
may not be Biden. I think voice
a voice record would be good to
do a voice graph and see what
happens
Adam Curry: but who's the
crackpot here. And
John C Dvorak: so and so the
idea is, is which like you said,
this is not an technology that's
not unknown. So you have an
actor and he it takes a week for
him to memorize because they
have the questions. They're
already seeing it as a question
to the deviously the Biden
campaign so they can say oh,
here's the questions and here's
the answers and they had to
practice gonna take a week of
acting for this phony baloney
Biden to to to actually present
well and and the reason they put
the end they have the two
candidates, especially long
distance away this now I am a
little crack party on this part
a long distance away because
Trump won't be able to see him
close enough to identify a mask
even
Adam Curry: doable or to to jam
the
John C Dvorak: ram with a pocket
jammer i i have a I had one of
these I don't know where this
thing went but it's in your
pocket jam or you can put in
your pocket and I tested it when
I was at MVNO with a couple of
the guys there I said make a
phone call see if you can get a
connection and this got a
connection I reached over my my
breast pocket and just pushed
the button and started this
thing not to call right off the
line instantly all bandwidth
pocket jammer ma'am a gentle
band pocket jammer so you have a
jammer. You can jam but it's
only good for about four or five
feet. So you move by one way or
the other side end and might
also interfere with the mics.
Well, if you're using wireless
mics, it will interfere with the
mics if it's not wireless, it
shouldn't make a difference, but
it would interfere with any ear
wig or any little device that
was put in Biden's ear.
Adam Curry: The bottom line is I
mean, okay, fine. I don't care
if it's Biden or someone in a
mask who has an earwig Trump has
As the natural style he he can.
Peace. He's still quick on his
feet. Yeah, just because it
won't be Biden going hobbling
ahead and falling down doesn't
mean that. But
John C Dvorak: that's what I
want to see. Well,
Adam Curry: exactly. That's what
we that's what we really want.
We
John C Dvorak: want to real
Biden we want him stumbling and
mumbling and saying weird words
and nobody can understand and
maybe passing out. I mean that
would be the best but that's not
going to happen if you're going
to have a guy in a mask, okay?
Adam Curry: It's really it
doesn't matter. The whole thing
doesn't matter. The debate
doesn't matter. What matters is
Jake Tapper's record, former
Unknown: President Donald Trump
in an interview earlier today
was given a chance to clear up
any confusion about his Hitler
echoing comments, in which you
said this is some classics from
2020 that immigrants from South
America, Africa and Asia. Now
Europe to South America, Africa
and Asia are, quote, poisoning
the blood of our country. The
dehumanizing rhetoric of Adolf
Hitler is once again alive and
well on a national political
stage. If you were to open up a
copy of Hitler's mind calm, you
would find the Nazi leader
describing the mixing of non
Germans with George Germans as
poisoning. The Jew, Hitler
wrote, quote, poisons the blood
of others, there's really no
other way to say it. Donald
Trump's language mirrors this
directly this
Adam Curry: he's Adolf Hitler, I
want to go back to Andrea
Mitchell with the USA Today lady
who was on with with Chuck and
Unknown: it was high risk, high
reward for Joe Biden, because
the exposure without a
teleprompter on a stage for 90
minutes, you know, he could
falter and any single moment
could be could go viral,
especially the way even it isn't
moments not not damaged and
damaging moments like the g7 or,
you know, faked and edited out
of context,
you know, they've not only had
the impression made their second
and third and fourth
impressions, they're all made
their images, their views, the
views of voters to that each of
these candidates is set in
political concrete. So the risks
now I think is less to like make
an impression you've never made
before. More that the other guy
or you make some kind of error.
That thing gets repeated over
and over and over again, on
cable TV and on social media.
And that that becomes the image
that people remember.
Adam Curry: Yeah, but that won't
change anybody's vote. No one's
going to switch because of this
debate. Everyone's dug their
heels in and
John C Dvorak: I'm in total
agreement this is
Adam Curry: are they having ads
are they gonna roll ads on this
thing?
John C Dvorak: One I asked the
same question last show yeah, I
Adam Curry: want to know what
one ad one ad who's it going to
be? Who's the one ad going to be
have a coke and a smile?
John C Dvorak: What's it going
to probably be a drug company
come
Adam Curry: on. Pfizer. Hey,
well, the prop bets the prop
bets mine to profits are funny.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, we have
Adam Curry: who's first answer
during the debate will be longer
debate winner as proposed first
to mispronounced a politician's
name. Though here's the match
bet democracy versus border.
Well, Joe is obviously going to
go after democracy. Slogans
Magga. Republicans versus save
America. They hate our country,
Black Lives Matter. First Wives
mentioned Jill versus Melania.
Favorites Melania. To be
mentored and mentioned. Hi,
favorite there? Nothing about
first candidates suggests the
other is on drugs. Okay.
John C Dvorak: That'll be good.
I
Adam Curry: think about the
first I wonder who the who the
who? The. Yeah, probably what
probably Pfizer
Unknown: will make now.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, there's a
couple of interesting things
there. Which is the fact that
they would continue to promote
the idea that that that video of
Biden turning around and yes,
heading in the wrong direction
is is fake? Yeah, that's
interesting is really beyond me.
I mean, you can even watch if
you watch the extended version,
the whole video where Biden at
the end slowly puts his
sunglasses on, which is the in
slow motion. Yeah. It's like,
this is not why it keeps saying
this is fake. When it's not
clearly not fake. I don't get
that. We
Adam Curry: know that we know
that because that's how it needs
to be used. So you can just if
you keep repeating that they can
always say if something that's
clearly true, it was fake. Well,
John C Dvorak: this is similar
to the other mainstream media, I
have to call them a meme, if
anything about the fact that the
Russians stole these Hillary
Clinton emails. I mean, the
whole idea is really besides
it's really it is complicit.
It's corrupt. It had
Adam Curry: terrible people keep
watching it. That's the crazy
sales day
John C Dvorak: watch it, but yes
they do. Here's because they're
they they're bored. They watch
television. Now they watch clips
Adam Curry: online. Nobody
watches television. The numbers
show it. They watch clips clips
of stuff online. This is a CNN,
Casey hunt. And she has Trump's
press secretary.
John C Dvorak: Oh, this is?
Adam Curry: No I didn't even
know we had a press secretary.
Caroline leave it was she's
John C Dvorak: one of the
campaign segra Yes, she's Casey
Hunt is one of the worst
presenters on no KCC hunt by the
way. No,
Adam Curry: please. It is not it
is.
John C Dvorak: You check it out.
Adam Curry: Hold on a second. I
don't believe that for a second.
does not say that. No, does not
say that she was born. It's
Casey s hunt. Good try. Good.
Good. Try to vorak it's it's so
it takes someone five minutes to
Google Jake Tapper. Donald Trump
to see that Jake Tapper has
consistent offers. You're gonna
filter. Ma'am, I'm going to
style Ma'am, are you if I'm
stating to attack my
Unknown: colleagues, I would
like to talk about Donald Trump,
who you work for? Yes. If you
are here to speak on his behalf.
And I want you to have this
conversation. I am stating facts
that your colleagues have stated
in the past now. I'm sorry.
We're gonna come back to
Caroline, they have your time.
You are welcome to come back at
any point she is welcome to come
back and speak about Donald
Trump and Donald Trump will have
equal time to Joe Biden when
they both Join us now, at next
Burley later this week in
Atlanta for this
Adam Curry: schoolmarm? Well,
you you, ma'am, ma'am, who calls
anyone Ma'am? Ma'am, ma'am, if
you don't say bad things about
my colleagues, I'm going to cut
you off, ma'am. Please. I'm glad
I don't have to get these clips
myself. That'd be too painful.
Here's how. Here's how
John C Dvorak: I saw that the
number of did kept playing Fox
using that as like a punching
bag.
Adam Curry: Of course. Let's
let's go and see how France 24
handles the preparations for the
historic US presidential
debates.
Unknown: The question is to
avoid scenes like this in 2020.
Would you listen who is on your
list, Joe Biden and Donald Trump
have agreed to a new set of
rules for that 2024 TV rematch.
We have ended the segment each
candidate's microphone will be
muted for the first debate of
the campaign. Except when it's
his turn to speak post CNN said
that during the 90 Minute face
off, there will also be no live
audience. podium positions and
the order of closing statements
will be determined by a coin
flip. And candidates will not be
allowed to notes or props, but
will be given a pen and a pad of
paper. After lobbying from both
candidates. The TV event is
taking place months earlier than
usual. It will also be the first
debate either candidate has
participated in in this campaign
season as Biden run largely
unopposed. And Trump's skip the
Republican primary debates. So
you have two men that have not
debated in four years. So you've
got two guys don't like each
other haven't seen each other.
pretty rusty heading into the
biggest night of their lives.
About
six in 10. American adults say
they're likely to watch the
debate life or in clips, or read
about the performance of the
candidates in the news or social
media.
Adam Curry: Yeah, the background
of all this when Reagan he gave
his farewell speech, I think
January 9, January 11. Actually
1989. So just before the 90
said, is that right? Is that
right to sound right at night?
That was right. Yeah. So I was
reading his whole speech. I just
pulled a little piece just to
show you the contrast from when
I was on MTV, you know, of
course, I wasn't paying any
attention to any of this. I
wasn't paid on MTV school
councils or, you know, school
board or council meetings that
were caused those losers of
course, no, because my I will.
Mia culpa my generation.
Literally let a lot of this
stuff happened because we are
too busy. Yeah, I was on MTV,
who cares? I'm having a good
time. So he was the part of
Reagan and of course, there was
a presidential debate that
night, who would have been
debating that night? That would
have been Bush and Gore and
gore. So he says, I've spoken of
the shining city all my
political life, but I don't know
if I ever quite communicated
what I saw when I said it. But
in my mind, it was a tall, proud
city built on rock stronger than
oceans, windswept, God blessed
and teaming with people of all
kinds living in harmony and
peace, a city with free ports
that hummed with commerce and
creativity. As you know, there's
a presidential debate tonight
held praying, but I won't be
praying for a political party or
a man, I'll be asking God to
give his favor to the man who
can best lead us in
rediscovering who we are as a
nation. I'll ask God to give
favor to the man who believes
most in We the People. And all I
asked for is his grace on He who
knows believes most in the city
on the hill. Dude, we are far
from that.
John C Dvorak: Times change.
Unknown: Not better.
John C Dvorak: Not necessary?
Well, depends on your sense of
humor. Now, let's say they going
back to their notion that
they're going to have these pads
and ink and a pen and pen and a
pad on their desk. Yes, that's
all they got. Now, if I was
coaching and I, again, thinking
in terms of sense of humor, I
think that that Trump because
he's going to have his mic cut
off, should write in with the
pen in big letters. He's, he's
shit. And hold it up. When
Biden's talking,
Adam Curry: I'll give you $1. If
he does that, that would be
pretty funny.
John C Dvorak: It would be great
if he did that, because it would
be like it would get nothing but
attention. And it would they
wouldn't update me beside
themselves. What are you going
to do?
Adam Curry: Nothing. I want to I
want to move on, but I'll keep
it related as I moved to the
Supreme Court. This is very,
very interesting. What's what's
happening effect I have a the
Supreme Court is about to end
their session. So you know,
they're trying to wrap
everything up real quick.
John C Dvorak: Go on vacation,
basically. Yeah, it's
Adam Curry: vague. It's called
vacation but they call ending
the session. And let me see
where's the where's the SCOTUS
clip here?
Unknown: Yes, this one I think
tonight Special Counsel Jack
Smith firing back again. This
Adam Curry: is not Supreme
Court. But it's the documents
case. It's Donald Trump's claims
Unknown: FBI agents tampered
with boxes, allegedly containing
classified material discovered
when they searched his Mar a
Lago estate in a new court
filing prosecutors with their
most detailed description yet of
how Trump allegedly personally
chose to keep documents
containing some of the nation's
most highly guarded secrets
among a cluttered collection of
keepsakes including newspapers.
thank you notes, Christmas
ornaments, magazines, clothing,
and photographs of himself and
others of Trump's lawyers
claimed prosecutors have not
preserved the boxes in the exact
manner in which they were found
insisting they were manipulated.
Prosecutors say that's just not
true, saying the haphazard
manner in which the boxes were
packed and stored by Trump made
it inevitable that the contents
inside would shift. They blasted
Trump's claims as the latest
unfounded accusations against
law enforcement professionals
doing their jobs. The case now
delayed indefinitely. As Judge
Eileen cannon holds multiple
hearings on a wide array of
motions. She has yet to rule on
many of them causing unusual
months long delays. And David
there was news tonight in an
unrelated case, the Manhattan
hush money trial. Oh,
Adam Curry: sorry. I did that
didn't mean for that to be in
there. So yesterday. Yesterday.
Yeah, I think it was yesterday.
Yeah. All of a sudden the, you
know, the, the women of
Fredericksburg text message
starts blowing up. Rip First
Amendment. We're done. Supreme
Court kills First Amendment
done. It's all over no more free
speech. What happened? What
happened? You know, I doubt the
Supreme Court struck it out of
the amendments. I mean, what
happened? Well, this is what
happened and I have an analysis
Unknown: today the Supreme Court
ruled against limiting how the
White House contacts social
media companies, it's a win for
the Biden administration that
argued it should be able to
contact companies to address
misinformation especially
related to public health and
election integrity. And a six to
three decision. The justices
throughout the case on standing
meaning those who brought the
case didn't have legal standing.
Justice Barrett, writing the
opinion saying we lacked
jurisdiction to reach the merits
of the dispute, Justice Alito
dissenting, saying this is one
of the most important free
speech cases to reach this court
in years. This all comes as the
Supreme Court hands down its
final decisions of the term, one
of the biggest cases of the year
Donald Trump's immunity claim,
so
Adam Curry: I'll stop there. So
this is the Missouri versus
Biden case. I think actually
changed names later on. This is
how the both Trump but also the
Biden administration threatened
social media companies to D
platform people to censor COVID
misinformation and
disinformation. And I'm really
disappointed especially in Amy
Coney Barrett, they you know,
they they kind of punted on this
and said, Well, you know, you
don't have standing in this,
which is kind of a kind of a cop
chicken shit they do it is so
the mature already, that's what
they did for the majority rule
under the Constitution, courts
lacked jurisdiction to hear
cases brought by people who
lacked standing. Now it was even
more interesting, because when
it comes to injunctive relief, a
person cannot establish standing
unless he can show a danger of
future harm. This is because an
injunction doesn't remedy past
harm. And so what they're in
effect saying is that you can't
prove that you plaintiff will be
harmed in the future by this,
and the social media companies
were already moderating content.
So the fact that the government
came into that didn't mean that
it was something new. So it's a
very disappointing ruling, I
think that they, you know,
because the government does have
a scepter. You know, they do
have section 230. They've got,
you know, antitrust, all kinds
of things they can do to the
social media companies. So it
will now go back to the district
court, plaintiffs can pursue an
injunction. We'll see if that if
anything becomes of that, but
seems like you know, and by the
way, if you think that you have
a freedom of speech on social
media, please, please, there's
no way you should never expect
that there. They also ruled on
the Sacklers, which was
interesting. Now, the Sackler is
of course the family who owns
Purdue Pharma. And the Supreme
Court has now said, you know,
what, the Sackler family cannot
escape liability. through Purdue
Pharma has oxy fueled
bankruptcy. So they are back on
the hook. That could be
John C Dvorak: that could be fun
to watch. That will go on for
the Sacklers. Well, no, I'm
Adam Curry: not related. And
finally, Chevron deference. We
were hoping for a decision
today. Nearly Friday, we Yes, we
may get it Friday, we don't
know. But there is there are
high hopes that that Chevron
deference decision will be in
favor of taking away the power
from the agencies.
John C Dvorak: But this so I got
into Congress that was gonna say
this would be perfect.
Adam Curry: To have that
decision tomorrow when
everyone's doing the memes and
and post debate analysis.
John C Dvorak: That's probably
the time to do it. Yeah. I got
into it. There's this one
pressure group that has been
pressuring you and pressuring
you? Well, I get, I get, you
know, there's just press
releases. And I called them up
and I said, I did this on
background. I told them I wow,
okay.
Adam Curry: Background, do you?
What do you deep state? Yeah.
John C Dvorak: And so that's me.
So but no, I just want to hear
the pitch. And so what is the
pitch about not killing Chevron
deference. And so this girl
calls me up, and she gives me
the pitch is, and it goes on
forever. And it's totally a
script. And I shot back at her
after she was done talking,
which took about 20 minutes.
Adam Curry: This is recent, this
past week yesterday. Oh, okay.
And so
John C Dvorak: I said, Well, you
know, I worked for one of these
agencies, pre Chevron deference
and everything you say is not
true. This and that. And she
did. I just had a list of stuff
I was writing down she said,
This is what's going to happen.
And I said, it didn't happen
before. Why would it happen now?
And I went on and I really got
mad at her.
Adam Curry: Record your side.
John C Dvorak: I didn't record
any of his background. I'm just
telling you the story. Okay. And
so but but she would not relent.
And I told her that she all she
has I said take a look at this.
What's been going on since
Chevron deference has been a
consolidation This was to be a
big anti Corporation operation
that's right pushing this so
what's been going on since
Chevron deference to
corporations have been getting
bigger and bigger and they've
been consolidating in the media
and elsewhere it's just all it's
it's gone in the exact opposite
direction that you expected to
go in. But this is what you're
still pushing show it to happens
even more. And then she pushes a
J appall build as calling out
that's called your race.
Adam Curry: Did she call you a
racist at any point? No, she
John C Dvorak: but she says Jay
Paul's got this assembly bill
that which is going to put
Chevron deference into law
words. And I said all this is
doing is playing into the hands
of the big corporations, you're
just a stooge and you're reading
a script that may as well have
been written by the big
corporations who are you
kidding? And she was very not
happy with me but at the same
time, we didn't she didn't cuss
me out or anything but this is
what's going on. Is this
Adam Curry: how you talk to
girls is this what you're doing
now? This is not the way to go?
JCD
John C Dvorak: wasn't looking
for a date. Anyway, so but this
this pressure groups are out
there and I you know, you can
talk to them and see what they
have to say and you I know this
is terrible what they're up to.
They don't know what they're
doing. I said, Did you ever work
for an enforcement agency or a
Ministry of State Agency? Well,
I was an intern at the FAA was
an internet, the FCC. I said,
what you should notice anything
that you integrate, I said, I
said, all these agencies are
been been captured. And she
actually admitted that she saw
capture going on. There's
Unknown: capture going on here.
There's capture everywhere.
Yeah.
John C Dvorak: Well, I'll Oh,
this, this Chevron deference
thing. It'll be interesting to
see how it shakes out.
Adam Curry: I mean, I'll let him
slide on. On the Missouri versus
Biden, if they do Chevron
deference, by the way, a lot of
people are very skeptical. It's
like, oh, then the just the
courts will do it in the courts.
And then the courts suck to win.
Everything's No,
John C Dvorak: this is what I
got into the argument about with
her, because she said the same
thing, or the courts are going
to be this. That's bullcrap.
When I was working, and it's
almost a decade with, with the
air pollution district, we had
to we had to go to court quite
more than once I went to the
court and gave testimony and got
pretty good at it about certain
things, but somebody really got
bent out of shape about the way
it was being enforced. They take
it to a judge. And okay, well,
we can deal with that we'd
always when that didn't never
saw it was a problem. And it
didn't happen that often. It
wasn't like daily. So I mean,
this whole thing is bold crap.
You Chevron deference has got to
go. Have you seen
Adam Curry: some of these
candidates for judges that have
been going through Senate
confirmation hearings? It's
amazing.
John C Dvorak: You gotta get
Trump back in there. Because
these these people they're
putting in are terrible. They
Adam Curry: really are like,
Yeah, you know, the guy
sodomized a four year old game a
couple of years, you know, poor
guy. Clearly it was poor guy.
Poor guy. What? Yeah, yeah, how
far we've fallen. I want to go
back to some cheap fakes. I got
some AI stuff, which deserves
discussion,
Unknown: I want to make a bit of
a turn in our conversation to
something that we've been
wanting to talk about on the
show for a little bit and a
little bit just to be totally
transparent, trying to figure
out how to do it. And when I say
it, it is a lot of memes. And
what the White House is calling
cheap fakes. Which means Oh,
Adam Curry: whoa, whoa, whoa,
whoa, whoa, that's not true.
According to jurien, the media
made that up, not the White
House, get your story straight,
Dana IIMs.
Unknown: And what the White
House is calling cheap fakes.
Which means that these are there
are videos that are being put
out on social media and then
amplified on conservative media,
that in some cases are just not
right. And in other cases are
highlighted, right. It's not
right of President Biden. And I
don't want to go, I don't want
to let a day go by where I can
read a tweet from Barbra
Streisand on the show. So I'm
gonna do it.
Adam Curry: And she said, why
did why would everyone all get
Oh, get GT over reading a tweet
from Barbra Streisand. I would
never pass that opportunity up,
go
Unknown: by where I can read a
tweet from Barbra Streisand on
the show. So I'm gonna do it.
She said, We must stay vigilant
to the ongoing and pervasive
spread of misinformation, maybe
now more than usual, in the lead
up to the presidential election.
And her argument was, Don't
amplify it. It is interesting,
given the fact that there she
there was a famous case, where
somebody took a picture of her
house in Malibu, and she seemed
to not have that shown. And then
it turned out that people
started looking at the picture
more than before. So it's, it's
the question that I started this
conversation with is how much to
talk about it, versus how much
to just kind of ignore it. And
we're trying to kind of do both
here. So
Adam Curry: I thought that was
interesting, because here we
have the media, of course,
playing ball for, for the
Democrats and for, for Biden,
saying, you know, you know, what
I'm hearing is, you know,
jurien, you should kind of calm
down a little bit with the cheap
fakes. Because, you know,
obviously, we all know that that
was real. And now you're
creating a Streisand effect,
where people are now going and
seeking it out and looking for
it and copying it and retweeting
and it's hurting our man, you
Unknown: have a 78 year old and
an 82, I rolled 81 year old. And
we have lots of examples of both
of them. Maybe Trump's aren't
played as much, but both of them
appearing to to use your words,
lose a step. That's one thing.
The other thing is to take
something that actually
happened, and make it look worse
than it is. And listen, the
Trump campaign is going to do
this and voters are going to see
it. They're going to imbibe this
and not necessarily know that
it's a it's a real, stupid Biden
team trying to counteract this,
but I think the problem is to
the Streisand example, in fact,
Checking it, do you amplify it?
Right? Right Thing? Is this the
thing that you're talking about?
And then you go see it.
So it's a real problem. But
I think at the core there is
this problem with both of these
candidates in terms of age and
perception. Yeah, okay,
fine.
John C Dvorak: So before you go,
before you go on, didn't
Streisand? She's talking about
misinformation. Streisand is
right. Yes. Didn't she say she
was going to leave the country
in 2016 If Trump got elected,
that
Adam Curry: was aI man, she
never said that. That was a
cheap fake. She
John C Dvorak: did say it then
she didn't leave the country. So
is that misinformation to it? As
she said, She's full of it.
Adam Curry: I wonder if we do we
have Streisand sang she's gonna
leave.
John C Dvorak: It'd be hard to
find it'd be hard to categorize.
Adam Curry: There would be
Streisand leaving. Everybody was
leaving. Even Miley Cyrus was
leaving. Well, they're
John C Dvorak: all leaving
Adam Curry: nobody left. Yeah,
exactly. So there's some
interesting developments and
also we've got a lot of boots on
the ground regarding AI. How is
invidious so holding up the
whole stock market? I didn't get
a chance to listen to DHL plug
is still the biggest company in
the world with $3 trillion.
John C Dvorak: They would that
was only a moment to know Oh,
no. They they they slid they
slipped number two now number
two but is there right there?
They're right there there any
other 10 points so they'll be on
top again on the
Adam Curry: cost? Well, NBC went
to talk to tech titan Sam
Altman, who is amazing. This guy
can talk for hours and say
absolutely nothing. It's it is
an IT skill. Well, it is
Unknown: a Silicon Valley skill
out of a gathering here in
Colorado, the Aspen Ideas
Festival.
Adam Curry: Where's my invites
to the Aspen Ideas Festival.
Today
Unknown: I sat down with two of
the biggest names in the world
is Foo Fighters playing
technology and business. Sam
Altman, CEO of open AI and his
ally and friend Brian Chesky,
CEO of Airbnb, to talk about the
promise and the risks of
artificial intelligence. Open AI
has stunned people with its
capabilities like video creation
from simple text prompts
Adam Curry: hook where did this
guy come from? you've ever heard
this guy on NBC? What a voice
Hey, open AI has stood and
everybody to
John C Dvorak: 55 psi smoking
Marlboros.
Unknown: AI has stunned people
with its capabilities, like
maybe an AI voice. Now they
think about video creation from
simple text prompts with omens,
John C Dvorak: like Lester Holt,
then it is less enjoyed. It's
less the adult
Unknown: students for his
company go much further
comparing it to the Manhattan
Project Development of the
atomic bomb. Was that helpful
for you as you try to make your
case?
I mean, we try to give a number
of historical analogies because
we think it is important. So we
can say there were some things
about the Manhattan projects
that are like what we're doing.
Now, there's some things about
the Apollo program. There's some
things about the
Adam Curry: Oh, okay. Just for
context. Could you buy
grandiose? Well, this is this is
the whole pitch. This is the
whole idea. You can only trust
us. You can't trust anyone else.
It's so big, so fast. By the
way, it needs government
involvement as the Manhattan
Project. Could you just give us
a quick background on the
Manhattan Project?
John C Dvorak: Of the Manhattan
Project, which was basically
created entire city in the
middle of nowhere and down in
the desert, the Oppenheimer
movie, and up it Yeah, the
Oppenheimer movie describes it
pretty well. Yeah, just go
watch. That
Unknown: is because we think it
is important. So we can say
there were some things about the
Manhattan projects that are like
what we're doing. Now, there's
some things about like, what
program there's nothing,
Adam Curry: there's nothing like
the Manhattan project that we're
doing now. Nothing, no one's
going to die. And in no way was
the Manhattan Project worth $3
trillion
Unknown: is important. So we can
say there were some things about
the Manhattan projects that are
like what we're doing. Now,
there's some things about the
Apollo program. There's some
things about the iPhone. But
what I think is important is to
say, the iPhone, the parts where
we can look to historical
analogy, and here are the parts
where we can't, okay, here it
comes standby and the shape of
this technology and kind of the
decisions and the impact. It is
fundamentally a little bit
different than anything. I think
it's different than the
Manhattan Project. It's not a
race is not going to be done in
secret. I think nations can
collaborate together and there
could be a transnational kind of
group or body that could really
kind of align to make sure we're
all on the same page. We think
that's super important to get to
get some sort of
freeway stop.
John C Dvorak: Was that the
Airbnb yakking away there? as
well? She got to do with
anything. Oh,
Adam Curry: he's a tech titan
and he's at the festival. Hello.
Hey, I've got a gig today with
Sam at the tech Titans.
festival, oh my God
Unknown: together and there
could be a transnational kind of
group or body that could really
kind of align to make sure we're
all on the same page. We think
that's super important to get a
global framework and cooperation
by
John C Dvorak: the way, stop,
stop, stop a guy hate that.
Adam Curry: I'm almost done. But
I'll stop. I'll stop. But
John C Dvorak: this isn't the
classic Silicon Valley phrase.
Super important.
Adam Curry: It's not just
important. It's not important,
or
John C Dvorak: super important
because that's a that's a high
end Silicon Valley phrase,
believe me.
Adam Curry: No, I know. I've
been around it. You heard it.
You know, it was also super
important. juiced. Remember that
juiced? Yeah, J O S juice. Yeah,
juice juice. Those guys. Yeah,
you know, as created by the guys
who created Skype, super
important, super important. This
is all we changed pod show to me
vo to video because of juiced
and because Kleiner Perkins
forced us to do it. That's the
That's the truth. Is that right?
Yes. There was that woman's
name. So you had pod show, which
John C Dvorak: was the original
operation? I think that's when I
went to work for you.
Adam Curry: Yeah. Oh, yeah.
We're still poncho. Yes. You are
my man. I hired you. You are my
hire.
John C Dvorak: Well, I soldier
on me.
Adam Curry: You bet you
buffaloed me?
John C Dvorak: I did. I took you
did I took you to lunch it
Adam Curry: bring God I paid for
it. This is the worst.
John C Dvorak: And I sold you
did by the way. People always
talk about you know, all these
get jobs do this and that. And
the way you do it is with
interpersonal sales. And you
learn about podcasting because
what was going on at the time
2006 2007. And so I had to get
it. I had to figure it out. But
the way you learn is by doing as
opposed to just you know,
screwing around. So I sold you
on hiring me. And it was pretty
it was an a it wasn't that hard
to do. Well, you're you're a
soft touch. But to
Adam Curry: be fair, you were a
couple of glasses of wine helps.
Yeah, you are the poncho dei
hire. So yeah. Oh, luck. It all
worked out me. Nations
Unknown: can collaborate
together. And there could be a
transnational kind of group or
body that could really kind of
aligned to make sure we're all
on the same page. We think
that's super important to get to
get some sort of global
framework and cooperation. We're
really gonna need that.
Adam Curry: We need to write the
Silicon Valley bullcrap
dictionary. Of all these terms,
I forgotten most of
John C Dvorak: writing a book
like that'd be super important.
Adam Curry: It would be
Manhattan level, Manhattan
project level. Definitely.
Regarding AI, there is there's
an interesting development in
first some boots on the ground,
because we talked about the
power requirements. This is, of
course, this is what Nvidia is
actually doing is creating these
chips that just suck the power
and everything needs. If only we
had $100 billion, then AI would
work. If only we had a trillion
dollars, it would work if we
only had $7 trillion. It would
work. First the the Scott says,
Hey,
John C Dvorak: we see a trend
here. Yes. I
Adam Curry: was listening to
Episode 16. Seven, you want to
wanted to offer an educated
guess as to why the data center
legislation was a big deal in
Virginia. He says he believes
that has to do with Amazon's HQ
two data center that's being
built there. And that's
essentially across the street
from the Pentagon. So that would
make sense because if you read
the boots on the ground from our
DC night of the high desert, he
says I lived in Princeville,
Oregon right next to the
Facebook and Apple data centers
that they've been building for
over a decade, the city of
Princeville Prineville
Princeville residences saw a
200% increase in their Pacific
power utility bill once the data
center was up and running.
Unknown: About that.
John C Dvorak: No one talks he's
had a bunch of utility bill
hikes here in California too. I
wonder what's going on.
Adam Curry: And then we have
anonymous and immediate family
members and executive at a large
diversified electric and gas
utility. I love our producers.
It just hey, just call your
family you'll get answers for
us. Data Center power demands
has providers in a panic. The
enormous power usage cannot be
overstated. Even nuclear power
generation has difficulty
keeping up. I believe Amazon
uses about a third of the power
generated by the Sasquatch and a
nuclear plant in Pennsylvania.
It's exponential and not
scalable. Of course, none of
this stuff is scalable. But
here's the cool thing. Ars
Technica, I think Ars Technica
is pretty good. Do we know the
guys at Ars Technica, do
John C Dvorak: we? I don't know.
I don't think they listen to the
show or anything but but Ars
Technica screwy information
Yeah, you dropped
Adam Curry: out Ars Technica
what
John C Dvorak: I said, I'm
sorry, Ars Technica is a good
source of screwy, screwy
information that seems to be
accurate. So
Adam Curry: they have this
article that came out
researchers up end AI status quo
by eliminating matrix
multiplication in MLMs. And I
wasn't quite clear what that
meant. But here's some excerpts
research claim researchers
claimed have developed a new way
to run AI language models more
efficiently by eliminating
matrix multiplication from the
process. This fundamentally
redesigns neural network
operations that are currently
accelerated by GPU chips. And if
you read down further it says
this ability. So the actually
here mult matrix multiplication,
often abbreviated to map mall is
at the center of most neural
network computational tasks.
GPUs are particularly good at
executing the math quickly
because they can perform large
numbers of multiplication
operations in parallel. That
ability momentarily made
invidia, the most valuable
company in the world last week,
the company currently holds an
estimated 90% market share for
the data center GPUs now in this
new paper, titled scalable
MathML free language modeling,
the researchers described
creating a custom 2.7 billion
parameter model without using
mat mall that features a similar
performance to conventional
large language models. And they
demonstrate running a 1.3
billion parameter model at 23.8
tokens per second on a GPU that
was accelerated by an FPGA chip
that uses only 13 watts of
power. This could blow up in
video Well,
John C Dvorak: I don't know what
to make of that. Yeah, if
there's true I mean, it seems to
me that everything could be
blown up. If you just have some
guys out there that know what
they're doing. Yes, change the
math.
Adam Curry: Well, they
essentially doing without math
like yeah, we don't take you
John C Dvorak: without that type
of math, which I guess is
necessary to create whatever
they're doing. I'm not I'm on
familiar with it, but it's
obviously at the core of the
whole thing. And so somebody
just did a workaround and said,
Hey, you don't need this
bullcrap. You can run us a run
Adam Curry: on a Beelink
John C Dvorak: there's your
call. This goes out. There's
your callback
Adam Curry: until your hard disk
crashes. Yeah, exactly. I don't
know I love seeing that stuff.
Like oh, because I just I just
want to see it fall apart.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, I know you
do but it's gonna fall apart
whether you Is that
Adam Curry: wrong of one way or
wrong? I mean, I want to see
that fall apart. Is that bad?
John C Dvorak: It is I think
you're you're you're a hater.
That's what it is. I am wells
exhibiting your hatred of
anything that you're not
involved in? No, that's just a I
think it's a personality has
Adam Curry: nothing to do that
has nothing to do with it. A
thought AI was dumb from the
beginning. I my record stands.
Yeah,
John C Dvorak: I'm not you're
definitely consistent.
Unknown: Also new this morning.
major record labels are taking a
stand against AI and the
industry the Recording Industry
Association of America has filed
a lawsuit against AI music
companies suno and udio.
alleging copyright infringement.
The trade group represents some
titans in the industry, Sony
universal and Warner records.
The suit claims that companies
illegally copied recordings to
train their systems to produce
copyrighted music. This comes
after more than 200 artists
signed a letter in April calling
on AI companies to stop using
technology that takes away their
rights udio and suno have not
yet responded to the lawsuit.
Adam Curry: This is good man
that's you know stuff is
actually not bad. I've heard
some songs that came off that
like all right, but the last
well
John C Dvorak: it hits hits,
hits it was kind of like the hit
and miss of a regular singer
song right. Exactly,
Adam Curry: exactly. It has to
do with promotion has to do with
all kinds of things it can even
the weather can can determine a
hit if if people could create
hits, they will be doing it
already.
John C Dvorak: Then which used
to be this funny show on it was
on PBS or someplace it was a it
was a sit down with these
various producers and directors
and and when Peter Guber had
owned Sony I would not so but he
was running Sony's movies
division, it was kind of
scandalous era goober the
lawyer. No Peter Guber the
producer, oh, and he would he
said that after the first year
they did a bunch of these movies
and he says, and the Japanese
had took him into view to the
board meeting okay, what is your
work had you to accomplish
anything he says, Well, we had
this movie was a fail and this
was the fail this this movie did
well in this movie do well in
these other five movies failed?
And they said, Well, I don't
understand what you're doing
because why? Let's just do more
of these. Which
Adam Curry: I remember that used
to be at think new ideas, the
company that I had before me vo
before the.com crash. And we'd
have clients come to us and say,
Okay, we have here's what we
want. We want a viral video.
John C Dvorak: Like, I remember
this era, by the way, yeah.
Adam Curry: Can you make that go
viral? No, no, that's not really
how it works. Yeah, we want a
viral video. This is what
everyone's doing it now you
gotta have something funny. To
be a viral video. It's
John C Dvorak: got to catch on
is no way. That would do what's
going on with Trump right now in
these anti Biden videos, which
are being done by hordes of
pretty much from what I can tell
volunteers doing these things on
their own, and pumping them into
the Twitter and whatever
everywhere in Stein everywhere
pumping him into everything.
This is the end. A lot of them
are catching on. A lot of them
aren't. But this is the only way
you can do it. And it's not
something you can control. So
nobody's doing on the Biden
side. No,
Adam Curry: they can't. There's
something funny, they have no
humor. That's right. They have
no humor. It's really odd.
Because Americans have humor in
general. We're funny. And the
left and right used to be funny
on both sides. What happened?
What happened? When did that
change?
Unknown: It's like a like a
brain
John C Dvorak: blur. You know,
it's it was a slow I think it's
been a slow thing. It's been
slow rain
Adam Curry: cork. So here's your
analogy. A lot of people sent in
a lot of thoughtful responses to
what caused the video game crash
in the 80s. And you saw them you
saw a lot of these. Yeah, the
one thing that's very consistent
is the failure of the E T game.
Everybody has that as a part of
it. And didn't they just didn't
they go and did they? Did they
destroy them in the desert or
something or throw them into a
landfill in New Mexico and
crushed
John C Dvorak: more than one
example losers' finding a dump,
and then taking 1000s and 1000s
of cartridges and putting them
in there?
Adam Curry: I think it was, it
was a new story even. Yeah,
John C Dvorak: but that wasn't
the only game that was put in
the landfill. But yes, the E T
game and I think the problem
was, it was overhyped. It was no
good. And, and people lost
confidence in the whole system
went because I, you can if you
take in, you trick people into
thinking something's good,
through marketing and through
hype and through whatever. And
then they're no good at that
thing. This is happening to
Biden, by the way. Well,
Adam Curry: wouldn't it be cool
to get really irked about it,
it'd be cool if had to throw all
those NVIDIA GPUs into a big
landfill and crush them with a
bulldozer.
John C Dvorak: I think hobbyists
would grab that. Oh, yeah, my
mom.
Adam Curry: Of course, they're
lots of fun to play with. And
then the final this, I think
this is quite troublesome,
particularly for podcasters for
presidential candidates. For
anybody. This is an AI
development, which is a very big
problem on
Unknown: the medical is
detecting Alzheimer's by
listening to the way someone
speaks. A new AI tool has the
power. Boston University
researchers used a machine
learning model to analyze speech
patterns with a high degree of
accuracy, they were able to
predict whether someone with
mild cognitive impairment would
develop Alzheimer's dementia
within six years. Typically,
assessments to diagnose
Alzheimer's do not come back in
time to make meaningful
decisions about interventions to
slow the progression of the mind
robbing disease. The AI program
was nearly 80% accurate in
determining whether someone
would remain stable or fall into
dementia associated with
Alzheimer's. We
Adam Curry: need to do some of
this work. This is here's an
exit.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, you know, I
think Hold on a second. And you
know, I think that this entire
story is a plan to is to hurt
Adam Curry: Biden, some well
hurt anybody, anybody you want.
No, I
John C Dvorak: think this is a
Biden. This is another one of
these weird, targeted anti Biden
things that's going on right
now. Just because of
association. You start talking
about oh, AI can spot
Alzheimer's and just over never
mentioned Biden, of course,
good, but it's the first thing
you think that's the weird thing
is this is bullcrap.
Adam Curry: That's the weird
thing. The associations Oh,
Biden. Yeah.
John C Dvorak: At best first
thing and I thought, I'm going
to story start playing but if
you have
Adam Curry: that kind of voice
recognition, or the illusion of
that kind of recognition can be
all kinds of cool stuff. You
know, will you turn into an axe?
John C Dvorak: Well, you can use
it as a as a lie detector.
Adam Curry: Yeah, well, you
John C Dvorak: might pose idli
these computers have done years
ago, there's Oh yeah, we got
this situation here and you can
talk into the computer and we
can tell if you're lying. You
can take
Adam Curry: your teenage girls
and you say okay, talking here.
Oh, you're a boy. way, there it
is. And with that, I'd like to
thank you for your courage
saying the morning to you the
man who put the scene Captain
chaos say hello to my friend on
the other end the one and only
Mr. Jobs.
John C Dvorak: In the morning it
was Adam curry and you gave him
a gigantic agenda. Yes. Warren
Davidson is out there. Wow, good
Biden invitation.
Adam Curry: Hello, Joe. We got
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Because our producers support
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John C Dvorak: black guys that
distribute their podcasts any
good. They could do the same
thing.
Adam Curry: It's actually the
black girls, which is even
funnier.
John C Dvorak: podcast is any
good, they could do the same
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Adam Curry: Oh, I'm sorry, I
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it was very AI II AI II you know
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Yeah,
John C Dvorak: one with three
arms, which was actually better.
Yeah, because it was classic AI.
And we had a couple of seasons
and a girl walks down the street
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Adam Curry: was a bit more even.
You thought that was a bit much?
Yeah. Was there anything else
extrapolated
John C Dvorak: to candy bar
quite a bit. Yeah, the
Adam Curry: candy bar was good.
That was That's classic, no
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John C Dvorak: Well, that's
everybody now.
Adam Curry: Yeah, pretty much. I
can tell you everything that's
been uploaded so far is not
going to get chosen. Because all
AI
John C Dvorak: is all a I have
to admit, I think the piece with
the drooling bug guide, Biden
were called juiced and ready is
at least younger is by Rick
Harris.
Adam Curry: I do like the the
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Now back to our executive
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once again Serrana Miss of
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I'm going to presume this came
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John C Dvorak: It came in with
six $2 bills. Oh,
Adam Curry: oh, yes. Five for 12
Okay. And in this typewritten
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John C Dvorak: We were wondering
if he was going to come in
because he every year he always
comes in Eid donation. I
Adam Curry: wonder if he was at
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John C Dvorak: I'm sure he's
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saralee and he has a note this
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I travel I noticed.
John C Dvorak: We wonder what he
does. I believe he's a salesman.
Adam Curry: As I travel I am
noting some empty international
airline seats and easier hotel
bookings. I don't always go to
the best countries. But
availability is getting easier
as well. Carrying USD and my
overseas travel as emergency
backup. I have found it
impossible to get new $100 bills
as older ones are commonly
discounted in less reputable
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Political fundraising has
already made $2 bills scarce and
now large new bills except for
$10 bills are difficult to get
digital dollars seem easier to
print. You got that right
brother. Finally, to cross the
bridge from the tolls scurry
from the war in Sudan. To cross
the bridge from the toll scurry
from the war in Sudan is
expected to cause almost as many
deaths from famine by September
as the population of the West
Bank. He's making a point here.
The bricks are growing because
they give a damn about their own
people. The UN operates like a
military planner fighting the
last war explaining why the UK
and France are permanent
members. No jingles, no karma.
So he's dropping some wisdom
here.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, he's got
some misses eating up his Mama's
craw there. Yeah, especially the
UK and France and the UN. He's a
little
Adam Curry: mad about that.
Well, well, that's the war
machine.
John C Dvorak: This show hates
it, too. Yeah, yes. Very wide
doughnuts.
Adam Curry: Thank you very much,
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John C Dvorak: it does. It makes
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Thank you, sir. Onward with me a
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is typically sounds like an
Australian city and it is, I
guess in New South Wales. He
came up with the 898 70, which
Adam Curry: I think was 1000.
Australian probably probably.
John C Dvorak: But he says it m
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898 hours and 70 point 70 Thank
you for your courage. No jingles
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We do discount knighthood. Thank
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Adam Curry: All right. None
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Paul. Van vanderwal vandrie Is
it an eye looks like an L? I
think it's an L Yeah.
John C Dvorak: Bandura Ben
Vendrell
Adam Curry: mount Riverview also
from downunder How about that
random number theory? Not so
random though. 6.66. He says
here's my donation the devils in
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If you don't know the data fed
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John C Dvorak: Thank you. Oh,
that's true. Yeah, we talked
about that last year that's may
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Unknown: Let's keep doing it.
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This should be in the intro to
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interview. You know, Charlie
Rose would have handled this
lady better. And then he's got a
clip, which I didn't play. Yeah,
Adam Curry: I did. It was it was
Jon Stewart. Talking to the
Pentagon lady about the about
the audit of the Pentagon. Oh,
John C Dvorak: okay. In order in
honor of GPT four, and Apple
intelligence that 4.0 meet up
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Adam Curry: job. Yeah, the
Albany meetup. Get John out of
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right. And I
John C Dvorak: look forward to
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then you can explain the much
longer note which you were quite
interested in. She says thank
you for the work that you both
do. I've been listening to no
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Right after I was thrown into
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that our healthy unvaccinated
children were treated unjustly
when they were excluded from
schooling during the great New
York measles epidemic of
2018 2019. Which we of course,
followed quite closely on the
show because boy, what a bunch
of crock that was. And you got
the you got the full writing
from her John.
John C Dvorak: She wrote a long
essay, which I'm thinking of
running in my substack column is
so good about how her kids she
didn't want to get the MMR
vaccine. And that would be
probably a wise decision in some
situations when she believed
that she didn't need it. And
Measles is not that big of a
deal. And generally speaking,
it's true. Not people are
dropping dead from it. And they
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Yeah, you can't come in. And it
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But it's very interesting and
Unknown: you're actually
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Yeah, I've
John C Dvorak: got that one. And
there's another educational one
from some one of a teacher out
there. Yes, I'm thinking of
republishing it and some other
ones. I think I'm going to do
that.
Adam Curry: It's nice to see all
these people getting some
respite. Is that the right term
respite? There do getting there
do like the pilots want the
pilots to Get there. Do we want
all these people to get there do
takes time. But Justice
ultimately takes time
John C Dvorak: and who has the
time? That's the problem. Well,
we're busy podcasts the whole
system is set up that way. So us
Yeah, okay, well, maybe you'll
beat us but you're gonna have
to, it's gonna cost you time and
money.
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Unknown: formula is this we go
out yet people in the mouth
Yeah, shut up slave.
John C Dvorak: I'm gonna get
some Gaza stuff out of the way.
Okay. So now I'm going to play
this play these guys, Lloyd
Austin Gaza report.
Adam Curry: No, and the good NTD
bit
Unknown: defense secretary Lloyd
Austin is meeting his Israeli
counterpart in Washington today
that says controversy is taking
hold in Israel as the military
has to start drafting ultra
orthodox men and he's
INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT area
and post art house the Israel
update.
Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin
is meeting his Israeli
counterpart in DC.
Adam Curry: Now finally, this is
NTD man that lead is no good.
They gotta have this guy on all
the time.
John C Dvorak: He's great. He's
perfect
Unknown: Secretary Lloyd Austin
is meeting his Israeli
counterpart in DC. Now the
meeting comes as Israel plans to
move troops from Gaza to the
Lebanese border to tackle
Hezbollah. But this plan of
course is increasing concerns
about a wider conflict in the
region.
I am extremely concerned about
the rise and rocket attacks on
Israel's north from Lebanese
Hezbollah, and the recent surge
in tensions. Austin
says that a war between Israel
and Hezbollah could easily
become a regional conflict.
Israel's national security
adviser says they will spend
weeks using diplomatic means to
try to find a middle ground with
the Iran backed terrorist group.
But if that doesn't work, they
will use different methods to
attempt to bring calm to the
Israel Lebanon border. The US is
urging Israel to use diplomacy
although provocations are
ramping up, whose rose
provocations threatened to drag
the Israeli and Lebanese people
into a war that they do not
want.
Meanwhile, in Israel, the
Supreme Court on Tuesday ruled
that the military must begin
drafting ultra orthodox men
Israelis are divided
at a time of war at a time of
war. Everyone has to make that
take that part
it's not a good decision but why
is not a good decision because
the army is not does not respect
the people. They don't respect
it.
The historic ruling puts an end
to a decade's old system that
granted ultra orthodox men
exemptions from military service
Adam Curry: as is pretty
controversial.
John C Dvorak: Oh yes a big
deal.
Adam Curry: Can this bring BB
down? Oh, I
John C Dvorak: don't think so. I
think the most I think the
Israeli population as a whole
first of all, they don't like
these people. When I was in
Israel, I got a tour
Adam Curry: from pretty
elaborate AIPAC babysitter you
know, the one who's still
John C Dvorak: sends us just as
a guy who was publishing PC
Magazine Israel at the time
though, and he took me all over
the country I went everywhere
and north south in between, and
he took me to one of the quote
unquote villages where these
ascetics live and you could just
tell that the Israelis as a
whole they don't like him. They
don't like these these people
and they think they're pigs
literally is what he said. And
he's right Teresa look at a guy
named David into place was kind
of garbage garbage. He was a
meshed. And they really don't
like these people. So I don't
think this is gonna be of
anything. You know. I think it
may have been done to keep keep
BB in office. Just the opposite.
Oh,
Adam Curry: interesting. Okay.
Unknown: So part two of this
clip, the head of the UN
Palestinian refugee agency says
it's getting more complicated to
move drugs with aid from Israel
into Gaza. We
are confronted nowadays to a
near total breakdown of law and
order. The
US State Department explained
the problem on Tuesday,
random looting and criminal
gangs and criminal actors who
have been attacking trucks.
He added that the US is now
working on a solution. One
option is to give us that
personal protective equipment so
they can defend themselves
against violent gangs which are
building up.
Adam Curry: Oh, PPE they're
gonna get masks. He said
personal protective equipment
PPE this mask. One of those
Lloyd awesome face shields. I
have a CBS version of the ultra
orthodox report following
Unknown: some breaking
developments out of Israel this
morning that could threaten
Prime Minister Benjamin
Netanyahu is grip on power
there. Oh, see they think it's
could threaten his grip. Israel
Supreme Court has ruled that
they
John C Dvorak: would stop for
saying, you know, American
mainstream media has hates him
for some reason. And every
report that they give us that He
is, is always negative. But if
you get reports outside of the
country, it's the you don't hear
any of this I I'm not buying
this this idea that he's he's
gone. They're
Adam Curry: running cover for
Biden they're running cover we
send we send weapons they run
cover. Bibi pretends we didn't
origin send it as running cover.
It's all BS come on CBS come on
in Prime
Unknown: Minister Benjamin
Netanyahu is grip on power there
Israel Supreme Court has ruled
that ultra orthodox religious
men must be drafted into the
military. They're like just
about everyone else. Most Jewish
Israeli men and women are
required at age 18. To serve in
the armed forces starting at 18
for two to three years, two for
women, three for men, but ultra
orthodox communities had been
exempted from the rule. The
court's decision could lead to
Netanyahu losing support from
ultra orthodox parties and his
coalition government which could
trigger new elections, the head
of one of those parties called
the ruling quote very
unfortunate and disappointing.
Adam Curry: I don't think that's
true. I thought only only
Netanyahu can call new elections
can just be triggered if there's
a
John C Dvorak: parliamentary
crisis. I have to do some
research to know for sure.
Adam Curry: This whole this
whole Lebanon thing is so
annoying. Alright, so we've
cleaned up Gaza, but now we're
going to keep going.
John C Dvorak: Got me?
Adam Curry: I have a wonderful,
John C Dvorak: I'm baffled by a
sight. But I would be kind of
it's the war machine. It's the
war machine. And we're behind
it. Yes.
Adam Curry: Thank you. It's the
war machine. In fact, I have a
have a great there was a great
advertisement on CNN A, which is
think the China News Agency.
Yeah, I think so. Well, I don't
know whose side they're on. But
this is an obvious Whoa, boy, we
need more money. We need money
we mean money because we don't
have this gear.
Unknown: hypersonic missiles
tipped with either conventional
or nuclear warheads can hone in
on their targets at least five
times faster than the speed of
sound. They are a new threat.
Because weapons that effectively
counter them are yet to be fully
developed and deployed. And that
could redefine the global
balance of military power. China
is seem to be leading the world.
When it comes to building up its
arsenal, a milestone The United
States has acknowledged. Two
notable missiles are the de F
17, a medium range ballistic
missile equipped with a
hypersonic glide vehicle, and
the DF 41, which can be armed
with up to a dozen nuclear
capable warheads. Russia, and
another producer of the high
speed projectiles is the first
country to use them in combat.
At least two types are known to
have been deployed so far. And
it's invasion of Ukraine. That's
the air launch kinjal or dagger,
and the sea launched zircon,
which uses a hypersonic glide
vehicle. Now
Adam Curry: I think we need to
have some congressional
hearings. Well,
John C Dvorak: what just
happened? We should know to my
as I put this in there, it's not
covered by the mainstream, but
it's covered by the news defense
newsletters is the chief of the
next generation ICBM project was
fired. So the government went
way over budget, they didn't
know what to do about it. They
can't seem to get this next
generation this problem with all
of our next generation
technologies. Nobody can it just
overruns they don't they can't
estimate correctly. It's
horrible. And so this guy got
canned and now we're just
basically just blown into when
we don't have anybody running
the probe program basically over
the next generation ICBM which
is supposed to have been done by
now it's not even close well I
Adam Curry: take this c and a c
and a report to be some kind of
propaganda for the for the war
machines like you know, you
know, China's got him Russia's
got them, you know, could change
the global power balance. We
need it. Need some money? Yeah,
you can just wait for it. Yeah,
let's
John C Dvorak: definitely need
money. We need money.
Adam Curry: I thought was kind
of funny. This interview a
little bit here with Jack Reed
who was a Democrat from Rhode
Island. About the draft of
course. There's always been talk
of of drafting we In the United
States, and here
Unknown: we are, Senator, one
thing on your plate right now is
the National Defense
Authorization Act. I mean, this
is for all who don't follow the
NDAA. This is a massive bill
that sets Pentagon policy
guiding funding for the year
ahead, sets
Adam Curry: policy. No, it robs
us of $900 billion policy,
included
Unknown: this time in various
versions is proposal that would
make registering for the draft
automatic, and also move in the
Senate to expand it to women for
the first time. What's going to
happen with this?
John C Dvorak: Well, I think is
an entirely sensible idea. It
was recommended by a national
bipartisan commission on
national service. And we took
that recommendation, and it was
in 2016, and 2017, publicly
supported by all uniform Chiefs
of Staff, because it makes
sense. 17% of the military today
is composed of women, they're in
every aspect of service, combat
arms, technical services, etc.
And we're in a situation where
all we're trying to do is
register, there's no draft in
place today. It would take
Congress to act to pass
legislation to create a draft.
And in that legislation, they
could make distinctions,
clarifications, whatever
Congress thought, but without
this registration requirement,
we are missing on a vast pool of
talent. I mean, it's
interesting, we're talking about
Israel, their armed forces have
been gender neutral for
Adam Curry: Israel. Yeah. Now
Israel's great
John C Dvorak: gender neutral
for decades and decades and
decades. And they're the one
most effective fighting forces
in the country, in
Adam Curry: the country. Are
they here? Are they fighting
here? The country? It's a good
one No, no, none of the country.
This fits neatly into an
executive order. Or a executive
pardon from President Biden,
which came out the day before
yesterday, President
Unknown: Joe Biden will pardoned
1000s of US military veterans
who were convicted under a law
that banned gay sex article 125
of the Uniform Code of Military
Justice was in place from 1951
through 2013 1000s of service
members were convicted and faced
court martialed during that
time, President Biden said in a
statement that he's writing a
wrong for those service members
who were convicted for simply
being themselves. The White
House says 1000s of veterans
will be impacted by the move.
Anyone convicted for non
consensual acts will not be
pardoned.
Adam Curry: Now, this is
interesting, from a number of
perspectives. First of all, this
was overturned in 2013 during
Obama, but the actual article
125 is being played every day.
If you just do a search,
article, code, USC 925, article
125, you'll get LGBTQ LGBTQ
pride flags, all beautiful, it's
all great go, Joe. But this was
actually about one thing, sodomy
wasn't a gay thing, per se. It
was it was obviously not a very
modern thought. But any person
subject to this chapter who
engages in unnatural carnal
copulation with another person
of the same or opposite sex or
with an animal is guilty of
sodomy. penetration, however
slight, is sufficient to
complete the offense.
Unknown: Just wanted to be
correct on that.
Adam Curry: Thought it was
interesting. Yeah.
John C Dvorak: This is a another
lame attempt by Biden to buy
votes. Yeah. LGBT, as it turns
out, that everybody that was
kicked out, will get money, they
get the money that they would
have had. And if they're dead,
your family will get the money.
Somebody gets money. Yeah, yeah.
So there's another giveaway.
Yes.
Unknown: Yes. Yes. You're right.
John C Dvorak: There's he does a
good job of that. Yeah. Well, he
Adam Curry: also, he tried that
with the he tried that with the
was it the student loans?
John C Dvorak: Yeah, we take
down a couple of shots at that.
That got turned down. Dad got
turned down. They got rebooted.
Yeah, let
Adam Curry: me see. I think I
have it
John C Dvorak: here. And some
people do have some free money.
Adam Curry: Let me see. Well,
actually, let me see, says MDC.
Tonight
Unknown: a campaign promise
aimed at millions of student
borrowers, is in the balance.
We made a commitment to fix our
broken student loan system broke
one of
President Biden's programs to
slash student loan debt is
partially on hold. After two
federal judges temporarily
blocked further relief from
what's known as the safe plan. 8
million borrowers are enrolled
in the program that ties the
amount of loan repayment to
income and family size. Under
its rules, about 4 million
borrowers qualify for no monthly
payment, others get a deep
reduction. Austin Davis is a
special education teacher who
says he and his wife Brooke saw
their monthly payments dropped
from nearly $1,600 down to $480.
Without this, we would not have
been able to afford the cost to
be able to have our own house to
live with our daughter.
Two separate lawsuits were
brought by Republican attorneys
general across 18 states,
arguing that the education
secretary overstepped his
authority, and that states
holding loans could
be harmed. But
President has no textual basis
in law for this plan, and
I'm not gonna let Joe Biden
saddle working misery families
with ivy league
education secretary Miguel
Cardona late today, people
shouldn't have to choose between
groceries and the student loans.
Some Republicans are working
harder to stop what we're doing
to help than to offer any
solutions.
The administration says it
intends to vigorously defend the
relief program.
God
Adam Curry: just more left,
right, left, right. Get mad.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, it was she
get mad. Hey, Tina,
Adam Curry: I went to the school
board meeting here last Tuesday.
Okay, why? Oh, it was? Well,
because we were asked to come
and be in the audience. Because
a number of people were going to
speak against the books. And I
thought, well, this is I'd like
to know what's going on with
this. You know, this is all the
all the books all the I have
examples in the book these
books, I would not even read
them on the show.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, I mean,
books that promoting sodomy.
That should bring it out. Yeah,
Adam Curry: I mean, really, like
with your grandpa and all kinds
of was really weird. And so it's
gotten to the point where these
books are in the Fredericksburg
school, but they're in a special
room that's locked in, you have
to get parent's permission to go
in and read them. Which of
course nobody does. No, of
course not. Why would you and so
a number of people spoke a lot
of very, very upset moms. And
Charlie was amazing. Everyone
just just looked at them, or
didn't even look at them,
really. And then the meeting
just kept on going. No, there
was no discussion about it. And
I realized, everyone's in, like
iron. So just you know, they're
like, they're stuck. No one can
say anything. No one can discuss
it. They the school board has
been told that they can't get
rid of these books, because then
the ACLU will sue them
personally. The whole thing is
is a mess. And meanwhile, the
handing out trophies, I swear to
God a trophy, three feet high to
a teacher with the best
attendance record. That was the
most bizarre thing I've ever
seen. No clapping, no clapping.
Yay. It was it was it's sad,
really. And then you hear the
moms like, well, they're not
learning anything. They're on
their phone three hours a day.
And it's like, what is going on?
We've gotten to this point where
the schools are no good. It's
completely rotten to the core.
And there's some administrator
who no one wanted the job that
to bring some guy in from Tyler,
Texas. He doesn't even live
here. And yeah, and I don't
know, it's just this You're
right. The schools are no good.
They have to blow it up somehow.
I mean, I don't know how
John C Dvorak: they're gonna do
it. It's very difficult. Yeah,
well, you can't they can't fix
it. It's not fixable. It looks
like really
Adam Curry: doesn't look like
it's fixable. It really doesn't.
It's just it's a big problem.
And I'm sure that this is just a
microcosm of what's going on
everywhere. No,
John C Dvorak: it's probably
worse everywhere else. Yeah. I
would have to assume but people
Adam Curry: aren't. I mean,
there aren't even engaging in
discussion. Just like okay,
thanks. Next. All right. You got
something to say all right.
Yeah. Pastor Mike gets up read
some Bible stuff, you know,
beautiful. No, no. All right.
Thanks, Pastor Mike. All right,
let's get off the stage. Let's
get to the budget.
John C Dvorak: What? Get off
this stage.
Adam Curry: They didn't say that
but well, they were thinking it
I'm thinking of homeschooling
people homeschooling is the way
to go. You gotta have a horse.
Sometimes
John C Dvorak: something has to
be some something has to be read
and read rethought. Let's talk a
little bit about this. About
another thing is not covered
much by the mainstream, which is
Evie dissatisfaction.
Adam Curry: Oh, well,
John C Dvorak: I love evey
dissatisfaction. Oh, you're just
satisfied. You're even have an
Eevee but you said Ed,
Adam Curry: I got Evie
dissatisfaction. Yes. Okay.
Unknown: Let's play it. Any
survey says that 46% of American
Evie owners are likely to switch
back to gas cars. And to these
David Lam hears from some
Californians who either love
their EVs or have the best of
both worlds.
That's only 24 McKinsey and
Company mobility consumer global
survey shows 46% of Eevee owners
surveyed in the United States
said they will likely return to
driving gas powered vehicles.
Worldwide. That number is 29%
Among 30,000 respondents in 15
countries, but in California a
handful of Eevee owners entity
spoke to said they love their
vehicles
in California I think it makes
sense to use EB cough because
the gas prices are higher than
the other states and there are
some incentives to use it
because
I could never imagine paying for
gas again. I had to rent a car
for a week and I was like, oh my
god, this is just just being at
a gas station and spending like
$100 For
those wanting to return to
driving gas powered cars
Australia topped the list with
39% confirming so the lack of
public charging stations was the
main reason the other reasons
were the inability to charge at
home 24% And too much worry and
stress about charging 21% white
knuckle some in California say
there are plenty compared to
other states
Well we actually live in LA
round a lot faster you can use
all the commuter lanes and
there's a lot of places to
charge and gas just got so
expensive.
The only reason why I really
bought it is because my company
gives me free charging but I'm
okay with electric so far.
Adam Curry: Yeah, but wait until
they get the per mile tax. They
won't be so I like the
John C Dvorak: idea that I like
this electric car because my
company gives me free
electricity. So you drive into
work you work eight hours at the
company and this charge in your
car for free to get electric car
to you if I had that deal. Now,
here's the kicker in part two of
this clip alright.
Unknown: In some say they still
need gas cars such as for heavy
lifting and long distances. If
you've got a trailer with cattle
in it, you're gonna do that with
electric vehicle, pulling it up.
No Hills for sure. Some people
will have to have gas because
this kind of thing. I
like it a lot because my other
car is a VA and I use that for
weekend. And I still like that
sound of the VA car. According
to the Bloomberg Nef. The
upcoming presidential election
also caused the jitters in the
US Evie market slowing down Evie
adoption this year. In the
landmark 2021 infrastructure
investment and jobs act,
lawmakers approved $7.5 billion
to build 500,000 public charging
stations nationwide along
interstates today. It's only
eight public Evie charging
stations have been deployed in
the US now that we all know that
500,000
John C Dvorak: Does you remember
when he when Biden ran against
Trump the first time? Yeah, oh,
we're gonna Bill 500,000 It's
gonna be good union paying jobs.
And after four years, we've got
eight, eight. Well,
Adam Curry: yes, we know this.
Because this is in fact, I have.
How about this from 2019. From
the debates,
Unknown: my plan calls for
500,000 charging stations around
the country. So by 2030, we're
all electric vehicles. There you
go.
Adam Curry: That's from the 2019
debates for the 2020 election.
That was the plan. And we know
that Pete Buttigieg was called
out on it.
Unknown: Let me ask you about a
portion of this that I think
does fall under your portfolio.
And that's the charging
stations. You mentioned, the
Federal Highway Administration
says only seven or eight
charging stations have been
produced for the seven and a
half billion investment that
taxpayers made back in 2021. Why
isn't that happening more
quickly. So
the President's goal is to have
half a million chargers up by
the end of this decade. Now in
order to do a charger. It's more
than just plugging a small
device into the ground. There's
utility work. And this is also
really a new category of federal
investment. But we've been
working with each of the 50
states, every one of them is
getting formula dollars to do
this work, engaging them and the
first handful again by
2030 500,000 chargers, and the
very first handful of chargers
are now already being physically
built. Hey, here's
Adam Curry: the thought. Did the
money's gone? How about that?
The money was spent on something
else it was oh,
John C Dvorak: that's an
interesting idea. There's no
more money because I'll tell you
right now down the street for me
there are can Tesla chargers,
and there are other Tesla
chargers here and there around
the area. Yeah. And so this and
they can only the government can
only with their $7 billion can
only build it Eat. Yeah, it
hasn't been stolen. I think.
Adam Curry: I think the money's
gone. And Pete knows it. You
know, hey, it's the end of the
decade. Well, yeah,
John C Dvorak: 2030 Even if you
got reelected, you wouldn't be
in office in 2031 of
Adam Curry: the big things that
that EVs struggle with, of
course, is the promise of
improved battery technology,
which never really seems to get
much better. But there is a new
battery technology that has just
emerged. I'm very bullish on
this
Unknown: sound, it's hot enough
to heat your home. Remember how
you have to jump on the
scorching beach in the summer
sun can store energy like a
battery. This finished company
is now turning sun into thermal
batteries to heat homes and
could help help the industry
transition away from fossil
fuels. They heat up the air with
electrical resistors. The hot
air circulates through the
coasts and transferring heat,
the sand can hold its heat for
months and at really high
temperatures up to 600 degrees
Celsius. It can then be released
as hot water or steam as needed
is a greener cheaper alternative
to lithium batteries. But that's
because the sun is low grade
plentiful and not suitable for
construction. Globally sand
mining is notoriously damaging
to the environment. For now.
This innovation is limited to
regions with abundant clean
energy sources and sand
supplies.
Adam Curry: I'm thinking this is
I'm gonna give up on the
gasifier. I'm gonna give me a
big big vat of sand and make a
sand battery.
John C Dvorak: Oh please with
such bullcrap battery
Adam Curry: it's the best. I
mean so sand who knows sand can
keep a heat for for a month at
600 degrees centigrade.
John C Dvorak: It has to be well
insulated I'm sure it could. I
don't believe any of that
actually even insulators is
better than the assault battery
I love
Adam Curry: you imagined like
John C Dvorak: what do you got
in the backyard there bail on
that the big sand battery thing
is huge.
Adam Curry: Just have a trailer
behind your Tesla with a big,
big thing of sand. We'll see.
We'll see till Steven.
John C Dvorak: Whoever gets you
that clip should get an award.
Unknown: back right now. Extreme
hate baking. Millions of
Americans were baking heat
advisories in place across the
country. We just saw a weekend
of triple digit temperatures.
Oh, New York state's Department
of Health reporting hundreds of
Heatilator emergency emergencies
nearly five times what we see is
this time of year. Oh well. The
Northeast and mid Atlantic
states are getting a a very,
very short reprieve. The
Southeast and the southern
plains remain dangerously hot.
And BCS Erin McLaughlin has more
on this wild weather Aaron.
Hey there over the weekend here
in New York. It was absolutely
scorching. It's expected to be a
bit better today. But across the
country, it's still looking
pretty extreme.
Adam Curry: That's not what so
how's the weather? Hey, in your
your part of the country, John
across the country, let's talk
about across the country. How
are you doing over there? Well,
John C Dvorak: I can tell you
what my temperature is around
6768
Adam Curry: Are you bacon yet?
John C Dvorak: Yeah,
Adam Curry: you might bacon. You
must kill it. And yeah, we have
95 or I have to actually wear a
couple of layers. Right now we
have 95 which is okay.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, you're got
some tight temperatures. But for
Texas, I've been to Texas.
Normally it's in the hundreds by
now. Yeah, normally it's like
105 is dry, though. dry heat.
Adam Curry: Very dry. Very dry.
John C Dvorak: I've been to
Texas A bedroom like 108 And it
wasn't actually very tolerable.
Not like Phoenix.
Adam Curry: I go I take the dog
out wearing my hoodie. I'm not
kidding.
John C Dvorak: Well, it's an
insulator. Yeah, but insulation
goes both ways. It's
Adam Curry: also it's not cold.
Not hot. Yes. Yes. All right.
Let's go out. This is fine. This
is all lies all lies. And then
let's bring in the biggest liar
in the universe who is the
biggest liar when it comes to
climate change? And and by the
way, he's a dope. We haven't
heard from him for a while. I
don't know Bill Nye the Science
Guy for odd.
Unknown: For more on what's
driving the extreme weather and
weather the new normal is with
us now. I'm joined by science
educator, Bill Nye Good. Well,
now he's a science educator,
John.
Adam Curry: He used to be a
clown. Was he a rodeo clown or
something? Now he's building his
John C Dvorak: eyes. He actually
does have a degree in like
electrical engineering. Yes,
he's
Adam Curry: an educator.
Unknown: I'm joined by science
educator, Bill Nye. Good
morning, Bill. It's so great to
have you with us this morning.
There are very few people
watching us this morning who
aren't experiencing sweltering
heat
John C Dvorak: around the world
that summer
Unknown: flooding wildfires.
John C Dvorak: Yes it gets
summer's day officially has been
summer for a week. Some are
Adam Curry: all very few people
haven't been The witnessing the
sweltering heat. Oh, wow.
Unknown: Give us your read on
that. Is this the new normal?
Adam Curry: These are the new
normal.
John C Dvorak: Oh, that we have
a hot summer is that what he's
she's asking how the new normal
that summer is going to be warm.
Adam Curry: When is the first
time we heard new normal? Whoo.
John C Dvorak: That's that's a
good one
Unknown: 2012 of the soybean
crop is rated very poor to poor
66% of the nation's hay fields
are in drought. So is 73% of the
cattle land.
This could be the new normal in
the United States. And so we
need to plan ahead because we
know and the science tells us
that under a changing climate,
droughts will be more frequent
and more intense across the
United States.
John C Dvorak: And Minnesota,
Adam Curry: so it was the new
normal in 2012. It was the new
normal, but is this the new
normal?
Unknown: Give us your read on
that? Is this the new normal?
It's
the beginning of the new normal.
Adam Curry: It's the beginning
of the new normal. So
John C Dvorak: the beginning of
the day, at least from our
perspective was in 2012, I guess
not
Adam Curry: know, well, hey,
you're not a science educator.
So it's
Unknown: the beginning of the
new normal with respect. So the
latest the latest research is
that there's not a turning point
or a tipping point or a knee in
the curve. It's just gonna get
hotter and hotter and worse and
worse and more and more extreme.
So this is a taste of the normal
of the future unless we it's the
future normal humankind get to
work on a dress it wow, this is
so great. Yeah.
Adam Curry: I think we need to
know what we can do about this.
I mean, we're obviously it's,
it's we're baking. This is
excoriating people are just, we
can't stand it anymore. What can
we do Bill Nye science guy? What
Unknown: do we need to do right
now, in your view?
Well, there's two things.
Everybody I say this all the
time. The first thing is talk
about climate change.
Adam Curry: Guy talk about it.
John C Dvorak: Because nobody's
talking about it. No reason not
Unknown: enough. If we were
talking with our families and
friends up, John,
I want to have a chat with you
Adam Curry: about climate
change. Okay. What are you doing
to stop climate change?
John C Dvorak: I'm stopped, I
stopped listening to talking
about climate change. It's all
they talk about
Unknown: and people we vote for
your climate change, we'd be
much more inclined to do
something about it. And then the
other thing I always say is
vote. We have
John C Dvorak: he says we're
we'd be more inclined to do
something about it.
Unknown: What votes he says
votes, so we
John C Dvorak: have a crack.
Nevermind.
Unknown: Now here in the United
States where one side one
political party isn't
acknowledging the problem, let
alone coming up with a plan to
do something about it.
Furthermore, the other side is
kowtowing is doing what the
fossil fuel industry wants to
do. And as Upton Sinclair said,
it's hard for a man to change
his mind when his income depends
on not changing his mind.
Adam Curry: Hello, what you said
being self made you cope due to
health. That's right. You can't
change bill Nyes mind because
his income depends on his income
depends on this nonsense. It
really is. Yeah, climate, you
know, there was this article,
you everyone was tweeting it and
look at this. How's this
possible? Washington Post? The
scariest thing about climate
change? Question mark. global
cooling. Now, did you see this?
Did you see this? No,
John C Dvorak: I maybe I read
Adam Curry: it because no one
really read it. Oh, please
John C Dvorak: can we get over
this whole thing? But okay,
here's
Adam Curry: so the the byline
we've been accidentally cooling
the planet and it's about to
stop. Humans fossil fuel burning
has cooled the planet while
warming it.
John C Dvorak: That means
nothing. But yeah, I think you
made the right sound. Sorry.
Adam Curry: So the idea is that
because we've been cleaning up
air pollution by not burning
fossil fuels, all those little
Ed bits of particles from
combustion of coal, oil and gas,
they actually reflect sunlight
and spur the formation of clouds
shading the planet from the
sun's rays. But since we're
cleaning up our act, now we have
less clouds. I know where this
is leading by the way, we have
less clouds. So now the planet
will warm even faster, because
we're doing such a good job of
stopping climate change. Now, of
course, what they're trying to
do here is twofold. One is we
have to work even faster. To
start to, you know to get
everyone in an electric vehicle
with eight charging stations
work
John C Dvorak: even faster
before Because of the sunspot
cycles before things turn around
naturally Exactly. We have to
work faster because once they
start turning around naturally
then the jig is up. We're
already
Adam Curry: there. The solar
cycle has already peaked at this
is why it's only 95 They're
gaslighting a surprise.
John C Dvorak: What and it's
gambling. And I
Adam Curry: think this is also a
nod towards Bill Gates's.
Climate, geoengineering sprains,
you know, creating clouds
spraying stuff in the air. Yeah,
I think this will be Mr.
chairman
John C Dvorak: at the entire
world's environment. That's a
great idea.
Adam Curry: But let's go back to
the Science Guy, the educator,
if
Unknown: you meet with people
who who don't believe in climate
change, don't believe in global
warming, and then
John C Dvorak: stop stop. You
notice that they have to use the
word believe as though it was a
faith to
Adam Curry: correct. And notice
she says global warming and not
climate change.
John C Dvorak: That's your if
you're a believer,
Adam Curry: yes. If you believe
same thing, it's climate ism.
Unknown: If you meet with people
who who don't believe in climate
change, don't believe in global
warming. And there are a lot of
them. What do you say to them?
What do you say to them to
convince them
believe? So if I could convince
people in one sitting, that
would be fabulous, but that is
proven quite difficult. I tell
everybody it takes it takes
years for people see the
evidence, see the evidence. And
the problem we have in climate
change is a 911 or a Pearl
Harbor,
Adam Curry: we need a 911. Okay,
we need a 911 or you see
telegraphing something here.
This is how you gotta be
careful. This science educator.
John C Dvorak: What? What could
you possibly happen? Anything
this naturally happens, it
reverses the situation like a
big volcano going off. It cools
the earth?
Adam Curry: Well, we need some
kind of 911 I don't know what is
Unknown: not coming. And the
problem we have in climate
change is we don't have a 911 or
a Pearl Harbor. It's just too
bad. It's slow motion, because
you
Adam Curry: know, 911 That
didn't kill anybody. Oh, yeah, a
million Iraqis. Yeah, we need
one of those.
Unknown: So everybody that I
speak with acknowledges that the
climate is changing
John C Dvorak: every leg of
course, because it's always
changing. It does that
historically is what it does.
The nudge
Unknown: that we work on people
on my side of this is pointing
out that humans are causing it
and we're doing it because we've
been we've had created this
wonderful quality of life for so
many people by burning bed
carbon ancient swamps a coal,
oil gas. We just got to stop
doing that.
Yeah, you first bill.
Adam Curry: I got a actually I
have a quick update both the
boots on the ground. But here is
the this. We're kind of low.
We're kind of low and slow on
the bird flu.
Unknown: The United States
government is working to fund a
human bird flu vaccine trial for
Maderna. According to a report
by the Financial Times. Right
now, h five and one bird flu is
spreading among wild birds,
causing outbreaks in poultry and
dairy cows. The USDA has also
detected the virus in our
nation's milk supply. On April
24, the USDA announced a federal
order requiring lactating dairy
cows be tested.
Adam Curry: I love the lactating
dairy cows. If they're not
lactating does not count chest
Unknown: feeders prior to
interstate movement announcing
financial assistance for
producers with affected herds.
Just this week, I will Governor
Kim Reynolds issued a disaster
proclamation for Sue County,
Iowa, after it was revealed that
more than 4 million chickens
would have to be killed after a
bird flu outbreak at a farm and
two dairy workers one in Texas
and one in Michigan. contracted
the virus
John C Dvorak: guys Yeah, yeah,
they haven't even gotten their
same two guys that were infected
months ago. If they recover or
this is still the way they've
recovered a spear head guy they
Adam Curry: recovered luckily
they recovered one intact Oh,
they got lucky. Yeah, the so
lucky pink. They had pinkeye
Unknown: contracted the virus
and last two months. However,
they've since both recovered
Disease Control says the current
public health risk is low.
Adam Curry: So I talked to my my
my friends in the testing
industrial complex. Because you
know CDC had called a meeting of
all everyone in the complex Hey,
we got Testing, testing,
testing, testing, we gotta do
some testing. Everybody ready
for some testing? Gotta do some
testing. You're testing. Gotta
do some testing. So Here is the
report I received. They
downplayed h five and one and
said risks were low. Then they
focused on Dengue fever
infections, and the emails
coming in today our content
heavy. It may only be a topic
right now because of the summer
weather but I noticed many hot
words that were reflective of
the COVID 19 speak during the
pandemic sent some screenshots.
Recommendations for health
providers maintain a high
suspicion for dengue among
patients with fever and recent
travel order appropriate FDA
approved Dengue tests which are
PCR and do not delay treatment
waiting for test results to
confirm Dengue gay How many
times have they tried to Dengue
gay thing is never panned out
never
John C Dvorak: know as because
his own is a sub tropical
diseases pretty hard to get. Now
I had a friend who was an editor
of mine had Dengue gay yes
Adam Curry: and younger and
she's dead now She's gone. She's
now she's founder. But
John C Dvorak: she said is not
as uncomfortable to have but she
says whatever the case is,
whatever you do never take
aspirin. That's what kills you.
Really? Yeah, because the
aspirin is visible like it has a
blood thinning quality to it of
some sort. And Dengue gays
looking for something like that
is not no good. You can't use
it. And that's the main thing to
know. That's all I was told.
That's a
Adam Curry: good tip. That's it.
That's an actual very good tip
to tip. The tip of the tip of
the week, of course,
John C Dvorak: whatever if you
get Danga you know, don't take
aspirin. Basically. It is good
tip.
Adam Curry: It is the summer of
course, which means COVID is on
the rise and another
Unknown: alert this summer about
a COVID comeback Coast comebacks
again on the rise fueled by new
variants Lee McLaughlin now with
the latest updated guidance on
masking and isolation.
Adam Curry: I play this clip for
you because I guarantee you'll
be seeing people with masks
everywhere in California.
Unknown: Tonight for a growing
number of Americans this summer
of sizzling temps is also the
summer of sick.
Adam Curry: Oh the sizzling the
summer of sizzling temps is also
the summer of sick
Unknown: the number of COVID
cases now on the rise
nationwide, listen
Adam Curry: to the ambulance
background net pop nice. It's
also the
Unknown: summer of sick, the
number of COVID cases now on the
rise nationwide. 15 states have
higher very high levels of the
virus in there. According to the
latest data released by the CDC,
I probably
characterize it more as a swell.
It's certainly more than we've
seen in the last few months. As
people crowd indoors to escape
the heat the virus spreads. This
year's uptick is thanks to the
so called flirt variants,
variants of Omicron which now
account for more than 60% of
COVID cases.
COVID-19 is indeed becoming more
mild over time population
immunity has been going up and
therefore the severity of the
illness has been going down. And
yet it's still worse than the
flu. Yes. COVID-19 is still
worse than the flu is the flu
Shut up. The outcomes of
COVID-19 are still worse than
the flu.
Doctors say the elderly and
immunocompromised are story.
Adam Curry: Flu kills a lot of
people every year. Except the
year that it was gone entirely.
It's so
John C Dvorak: that was weird.
Strangely
Adam Curry: just got lucky
John C Dvorak: we dodged a
bullet we did. Worse
Unknown: than the flu the
outcomes of COVID-19 are still
worse than the flu. Doctors
say the elderly and
immunocompromised are still at
high risk of severe disease and
should consider masking in
public spaces and make sure
they're up to date on their
vaccines. While preventative
masking for healthy individuals
is no longer recommended by the
CDC. They say if you're infected
wearing a mask can prevent
spread. As for isolating the CDC
has updated their guidance
saying that if you have symptoms
stay isolated otherwise you
don't need to isolate even if
you're testing positive. That
new guidance has raised some
concern among medical experts,
Lester Yeah,
Adam Curry: CDC says if you test
positive but you don't feel bad
then just call aside.
Unknown: Okay, well, I'll take
their word for it.
Adam Curry: What they what they
missed in that report is to
promote the I think we're now at
COVID Booster number nine,
John C Dvorak: I think is number
nine number nine number nine is
in play number nine and
Adam Curry: and still with
everything we know all the
models all we know about you
know climate change all the
things we know about COVID Just
so much incredible science that
has been done in the past four
years. We still can't figure out
these strokes and heart attacks.
It's It's baffling everybody but
we have a new theory.
Unknown: Dr. Gupta always good
to see you. So talk to us about
what this study found in terms
of loneliness and how it can
actually lead to an increased
risk. Stroke,
Adam Curry: loneliness. How
Unknown: is that possible that
we're seeing? I mean, this is
surprising to all of us because
John C Dvorak: this stuff and
just think about this before you
continue this clip. So instead
of hypertension or getting
worked up or getting mad and
angry, because you got to make
the, you know, messes up to
play. So who knows, what are you
in with a bunch of people that
are idiots, and you have to get
screamed at him, which could
just blow a blood vessel, you're
by yourself with low blood
pressure, semi depressed, you're
just sitting around maybe
watching television, and boom,
there goes your stroke, is that
is that what causes strokes,
loneliness, this seems to be the
Adam Curry: issue at hand
Unknown: to all of us, because
there's always thought to be a
causal link, well, gosh, if
somebody's lonely, maybe they're
stressed, and then they might
have high blood pressure, and
that could predispose to stroke.
Well, this is saying, we're
gonna get the
Adam Curry: opposite of what you
said, if they're lonely, they
have high blood pressure, and
they're stressed over
Unknown: all of that. And now
what we're going to look for is
this loneliness actually causes
inflammation in the body
inflammation, inflammation, we
think might be causing this
increased risk of stroke. So
there's a direct link. That's
what we're saying here between
loneliness, chronic loneliness
and the incidence of stroke.
Adam Curry: So there's a direct
causal link. Although I thought
that wasn't allowed in science.
John C Dvorak: I liked it. It's
not, in fact, is not but But I
liked the causal causal a set it
cause a well, causal link. Now,
let's,
Adam Curry: let's pay attention
here because you can diagnose
chronic loneliness. And I want
to make sure that when you
John C Dvorak: do it with AI, I
hope we're not
Adam Curry: suffering from it.
Unknown: When you say
inflammation, do you mean sort
of the causal direction is
loneliness causes inflammation
causes loneliness? For the first
one, so loneliness, what
Adam Curry: is causal causal
means it's causing it or is it
just I guess so.
John C Dvorak: And it's also
chronic? What's chronic? But
it's chronic? Is, is a term used
for diseases and analysis or
yeah, now chronic loneliness is
like a good chronic hangnails or
chronic, you know, body odor, I
mean, I'm not getting the use
they, they're mixing up these
short phrases in terms to get
you freaked out for
Unknown: the first one. So
loneliness causes maybe some
degree of stress, but that's
actually manifesting in the body
more, actually, physically. And
that's that's the hypothesis to
explain these findings.
That's really interesting. And I
guess my next question would be
when
Adam Curry: that's interesting,
let me look at the script. I
guess my next question would be
rolled the prompter. Okay. Yes.
Unknown: Really interesting. And
I guess my next question would
be when do you sort of actually
decide to diagnose loneliness
and consider it chronic
is so tough because there's
actually not formal clinical
criteria? So it's in some ways
similar to how we diagnose
depression? Are they
disconnected from somebody
disconnected from their
community? Are they not really
engaging with friends or loved
ones? Do they never leave their
home? Hey, there's this sense
of, okay, this person is lonely
versus not just based on how we
diagnose depression, but
especially for those that are
older.
Adam Curry: John, I'm concerned
about you. If you never leave
the house, especially if you're
older. This is very concerning.
Yeah, I
John C Dvorak: think you should
be concerned could Kealoha at
any minute, keel over like
Biden, last clip is
Unknown: loneliness linked to
any other chronic health
conditions. I mean, the surgeon
general saying that it's like
smoking 15 cigarettes a day.
John C Dvorak: 15 cigarettes a
day to be jacked up, it seems to
me, I'm so lonely
Unknown: to any other chronic
health conditions. I mean, the
surgeon general saying that it's
like smoking 15 cigarettes a
day.
He's right. And that's exactly
what we're seeing. Here. We're
seeing this concerning trend.
We're seeing direct causal link
between loneliness and heart
attacks, even though now you're
saying, Well, gosh, somebody is
more predisposed to pneumonia,
if they're lonely. And so there
is that link to that somehow
being socially isolated data, it
shouldn't surprise us. It's
actually having real fiscal
impacts for the body. Oh,
Adam Curry: my God. I mean, the
only thing I can see here is
like get people on
antidepressants because they're
lonely because that'll make your
social
John C Dvorak: that'll do it.
Adam Curry: I mean, it's this is
the you know, what the Surgeon
General should come out and say
watching M five M media is bad
for your health. Is we are we
are in fact, performing a public
service here by warning people
do not listen to this nonsense,
or only listen to it under
strict supervision of your
favorite podcasters.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, I'd say
that's probably good advice.
Seriously.
Unknown: This is this is really
early
John C Dvorak: you have I do
have this thing on this. I have
two crisis clips, because we're
trying to play
Adam Curry: these on the last
show. Which ones the vape vape
crisis and we played these.
John C Dvorak: I'm thinking of
the elder I know we haven't
Adam Curry: played the Oh no, we
have not played the elder ones.
No,
John C Dvorak: this is elder
abuse. And I have some thoughts.
Just because yesterday I was
being abused, and I'm an elder.
Adam Curry: When it was it was
the pressure group lady who was
abusing you. No,
John C Dvorak: no, I was abusing
her. Oh, no, I got like six
videos happens on Wednesday. I
get like six of these calls. Hi,
are you telling you've been
paying too much for your
utilities? We'll give you a $50
discount and a 35% reduction.
Did you go crazy because you go
like this favorite one is that
my favorite one is the you pick
up hello? And you hear nothing
and then you hear Hello? So
somebody's AI isn't AI is a bit
of phony baloney. Hello, hello.
I'm with such and such you know
we car repairs or something. And
we're there's a million
possibilities. Yeah, but it's
not even a real person there and
you just I either wait and he
hit the button debit hanging up
on me recently though, because
I've been hanging up on them. So
you're on a list. Call this guy
and then hang up on him is that
guy. So thrown out. But let's
play these clips.
Unknown: Attorney General
Merrick Garland and the Justice
Department celebrated Elder
Justice today Garmin 17 Eight
Hold
Adam Curry: on a second show
title if I ever heard one. Elder
Justice. I mean, justice for JCD
if I mean this is great your
your regular George Floyd of the
elder partment celebrated
Unknown: Elder Justice today
garland joined at 17 agencies at
a meeting of the elder justice
coordinating council or E JCC.
To recognize a decade of federal
progress in combating elder
abuse. Every
year, millions of older adults
experienced some form of elder
abuse, neglect, five financial
exploitation or fraud. We know
that the vast majority of elder
abuse cases go unreported. Yeah,
no, that's a real thing.
John C Dvorak: So they're
bringing in so that thing is
focusing on financial fraud.
Rob? Yeah, being broad. Yes. Is
why I'm talking about what these
phone calls I've been getting.
Adam Curry: Yes, they because
they just want to get your deets
and then they steal your money.
So
John C Dvorak: let's play the
second clip and I'll have my ad
then I will expose my complaint,
Unknown: garlin said the DOJ has
aggressively targeted
perpetrators of elder fraud and
abuse while providing victims
with the support they need,
resulting in hundreds of
millions of dollars returned to
elderly victims, the E JCC was
established by the 2010 Elder
Justice Act to coordinate
federal activities related to
elder abuse, neglect and
exploitation. Leaders from the
Department of Health and Human
Services as well as for pioneers
of the elder justice movement,
also gave remarks the AJCC
meeting.
Okay. AJCC has Okay,
John C Dvorak: so we have the
Justice Department. When are
they going to stop these calls?
Do you remember Elizabeth Warren
it was at least a decade ago
talking about Oh, rachel calls
and she's always wants you to do
this. And that the other thing
she did, they're trying to steal
your money. I'm gonna put a stop
to this when she was running for
president. Nothing has changed.
I get so many calls, which I
hang up on and I get a funny
thing on the on the line. I
said, Mimi, so she gets this too
and people might notice it. But
on the digital line that I have
for my landline. They first say
here's some sort of a pitch
which is a recording and they
say oh, please hang on the line
we keep hanging on. And then you
hear this sound it goes loop.
And it's a little sound before
before they come on before the
real person comes on the line in
India. Or who knows where is
China? I have no idea where
these people are you I think
they have all have Indian
accent. So I think most of his
actions in India is a bloop you
hear just before he says I hear
that she's hanging up, which I
think is why they're hanging up
on me now. But why can't he this
is all through the public
networks. Why do they not do a
better job of tracking these
people down? I don't care. Where
are they? Are they talking bitch
and moan and have elder justice?
Why don't they put a stop to
this? The Justice Department
garlin talking they haven't done
Jack about this.
Unknown: John C borax day. Oh
wow.
Adam Curry: They haven't done
Jack they have not done Jack
they've done nothing not even
Jack. No. I mean jack No. is a
problem. Lots of elders are
being screwed out of lots
John C Dvorak: of really old but
young kids are getting screwed
you don't get this not just a
bunch of old ladies that are you
know, that's all it for this
bull crap.
Adam Curry: True. That's true.
Now instead instead let's get
rid of Alex Jones. He's the
problem. That's what we got to
do. I'm gonna show us move by
Jonah to no agenda. Imagine all
the things You?
Unknown: Oh yeah, that'd be fun.
Adam Curry: We want to thank the
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John C Dvorak: We didn't have
any last show either. By the way
food we're experiencing a night
shortage.
Adam Curry: I have a question.
So one of Trumps he announced
this in now, I'm gonna go back
on something I've been saying
for years and years and yours
about the value for value model,
which is you know, we're not
working for tips here. This is
value, we give you value. And we
expect some that we actually
started by Oh, just hit the tip
jar. Well, we the show would
have been done within six months
if we did that. No, we didn't.
We avoided it pre avoided it.
But now, with Trump saying he
will do away with taxes on tips.
Yeah.
John C Dvorak: Hmm. I don't
think so. Let's go back. I'll go
back in history since you
brought this up. Okay. You're
always trying to avoid taxes.
The original thinking was, I'm
going to I can't quite quote you
but I can come pretty close. Or
will I say 6015 years ago? Oh,
you said well, since this is
like we're getting donations.
Donations aren't taxable. Are
they
Adam Curry: did I say that
really? Yes. You did. Well, I
was I was inexperienced and
young.
John C Dvorak: I said so
Unknown: doing that what did I
know 100%
John C Dvorak: tax tax is a tax
we get taxed. We had tax for our
money we're not nonprofit
nothing nothing like that. This
is seen as regular income. So
this tip idea is just an
extension of your old idea. I'm
so
Adam Curry: sorry that I brought
it up. I was just trying to help
us. You know, you're getting
robbed man. You're getting
robbed elder abuse. You need
John C Dvorak: to we are getting
robbed. But x is a price you
have to pay by taxi a podcast.
Adam Curry: That's right. That's
right. It's a grind is very
hard. John. It's it's
John C Dvorak: one of the
hardest businesses to be in it.
That's That's not a joke. We
just make it look easy. Thank
Adam Curry: you. Who can we
thank?
John C Dvorak: You start with
forever of the wallet. Okay.
He's in Lynwood, Michigan and he
came in with 123 dot 45123451 of
our favorite donations yes, if
everybody gave us that we'd be
on easy screw the government
they can buy a new jet sir PJ of
Durden comes up next. And he's
in Holland in the city of cat
wick cutback. And he says he
actually wrote a note that I had
to read some of he said this is
actually an attempt to get
through Adams obvious inbox
apocalypse. So we can finally
plan the desert Dagon podcast
interview Yeah, he promised yes
sir PJ
Adam Curry: you have you and
it's happening. We are we
already discussed the date I
think I think it was Sir PJ.
Yes. It's happening sir. PJ.
Yeah, the podcast days a Dafa
these days.
John C Dvorak: But if he wants
to send us one, two 3.4 Or five
like he just did again to remind
us that you need to do his
podcast good, but we're not
going to complain. Oh, not at
all. A William hammer in
Hagerstown Maryland. $100 prints
by ag and Lancaster New
Hampshire at 866 He needs some
somehow selling karma as he
escapes New York to New
Hampshire you might want to good
with that the end good one Yeah.
Good. Good idea. Actually
Adam Curry: wants He wants
Patriot karma. I'll add that in
there. Patriot karma. Well,
yeah, we
John C Dvorak: got the Fourth of
July coming up. So we should be
aware. As always, we're going to
work on the Fourth of July
literally and the Fourth of July
weekend. You should note that
Yeah. You know why in Bern we
do. Bertie with what we do.
Brian burnish in me ban North
Carolina as far as
Adam Curry: smokin hot wife
Jackie. And they want baby
karma. We got that too.
John C Dvorak: Yes, we do. Yeah,
baby at the end of the night
light snacks. Oh, yes.
nightlight no light snacks. What
is this product at 438 I have no
idea. You may want to look at
that snack. Christian, girlish
Grealish in Lakeland, Florida.
8008. That's a boobs donation
along with Kevin McLaughlin in
Concord, North Carolina. He's
actually the Archduke of Luna,
lover of blue. He doesn't miss
out. It's been going on for
years 808 from him, Jason Maurer
in Vancouver, Washington he
likes to be to pronounce his
name that way. 808 another boob
donation Brian Kaufman in
Scottsdale Arizona 7575 Peter
Campbell in Manchester for not
for not Vermont for not 6633
Check data do you use the
Alzheimer's check on that? You
go the AI Oh, it'll tell me.
pred Brett Peterson, Patterson
Patterson bid p d e r s o n er
Peterson and Wycoff Minnesota
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double switcheroo for fig head
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douching. De deuced. Marks
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Sorry 60 Todd Hendrickson in
Woodstock, Illinois. 55.
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sales in Adelaide
Adam Curry: silence Australia's
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John C Dvorak: Surprise,
surprise night of astonishment
in Yukon, Oklahoma at 444 Devin
O'Connell and Boylston
Massachusetts. 5341. And he says
it's a baby seal donation.
Adam Curry: We promised the club
a baby. Yeah, we didn't. We
didn't have to.
John C Dvorak: We didn't have
to. Thanks to on anonymous. Yep.
Kevin Lehmann in Rochester
Washington. 5271 Baron anonymous
cop. Actually, Jay got that.
Wow. I was gonna say Good work,
Jay. Yeah. She says to me, she's
doing the Yeah, she does this
guy and she named him you know,
the guy said the guy that the
guy said, Yeah, Baron anonymous
cop in Redwood City for two 150
I sent him a note he never
answered back. Stephen GRAYL
back in Mount Pritchard, New
South Wales 51
Adam Curry: out of Australia
ever since we said Australia yes
testing grounds thing you've
noticed this? Yes. Ever since we
said Australia is since we play
Australian clips more Australian
clip. You know what? We play
Africa clips. 20. Africans
donate? No. We have one guy yet
one guy. But we play Australia
clips. Boom, everyone's
donating. I love it.
John C Dvorak: I also think it
has to do with my calling their
Prime Minister Elmer
Unknown: Fudd. But I think that
helps. Yeah.
John C Dvorak: Nicholas Clark in
Port Angeles, Washington. Hey
5001 And he's discussing the
snap chill. Can coffees
including our favorites has been
recalled. You
Adam Curry: know, I had a can
just just out of deference.
Unknown: I didn't die. No, I
John C Dvorak: did just recall
from paperwork. Cow
Adam Curry: so there's not
actually you're actually going
to die from it. Because I was
upon your recommendation you
said because we saw this. And
you said no, this is this is
sketchy. It is and I went okay.
And down to one of those
kidnapped shells. Yeah, yeah. So
it's paperwork and someone
didn't do the paperwork properly
is that yeah, that's
John C Dvorak: what it sounds
like. But you know, we we crown
beans I make my own damn coffee.
You're like can coffee guy well,
I
Adam Curry: like that Snapdeal
stuff is good. And now with
botulism.
John C Dvorak: He says he's
Nicholas Clark says he's good
friends and a CO and a co worker
of John's UPS driver and Port
Angeles. To John next time you
see Brock telling you glad he's
telling the world about the no
agenda podcast because he's
saving lives. Oh, nice. How
Adam Curry: about you get the
rock out work? How about that
belta thing one of our producers
made that lifter what I'm sorry.
The belt shelf. Should give one
to him. He's a UPS Yeah, there
you go.
Unknown: Give him a belt shelf.
John C Dvorak: Brian Hummel, in
Wimberley, Texas 50. All without
the 50s already. So let's just
rattle these off name and
location starting with Brett
Darb. Sorry, Brian. And then
Brett Denton in Boise. Samuel
Kennedy in North Riverside
Illinois. Robert flurry in
Birmingham. Amy Grohl in Burien.
Washington and you've all been
there if you've been to his
airport. Fall Line farm in
Columbus, Georgia. Person of
merit comics in Columbus Ohio.
Nice these plugs are killing me
great Brian Eamon Heiser in
Lancaster, California Jack's
show fail All fields show field
in yankeetown, Florida Michael
Elmore in Gastonia North
Carolina John Taylor in Florida
Florissant Colorado. Aaron wise
Gerber in Bend Oregon, Richard
Gardner I think's in New York.
Yes. And Isaiah, Chet your alley
and Thane Wyoming and last on
the list is our Baron in in
Beaverton, Oregon, Alan Bean
Adam Curry: or Alan being very
nice,
John C Dvorak: yay sends a check
or Eastman sending a check since
the very early days. With a
note, I will reiterate the note
said, I'm gonna send you a $50
check every month as long as the
podcast continues to be good.
Adam Curry: I guess we're
hanging in we're hanging in a
check
John C Dvorak: $50 a month for
every month since that 16
Adam Curry: years, maybe 16
years probably.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, something
like that. Yeah,
Adam Curry: be careful. He
should be key.
John C Dvorak: He's probably
better that he's probably higher
much higher than a baron. He's a
man Yeah,
Adam Curry: he's well, he should
let us know and he should be on
the lookout for elder abuse.
This ramp is rampant, sir.
Allenby thank you to these
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Executive producers. We
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remember we are working this
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We don't have any meetups
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You'll keep going back. You will
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We have the inaugural sizzling
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remembering that because of the
the meetup jingle No, that's
true. That show was that had
last that staying power and it
was a pretty good show.
John C Dvorak: The first year it
was almost canceled. I
Adam Curry: can see why the
first season was not great. The
jokes were met. I think when
they really gave norm a lot
more. A lot more dialogue became
better for some reason.
John C Dvorak: But I did not
know they had to fight to keep
it on the air and they did and
it'd be him a huge long term
success making the network tons
of money which is typical.
Adam Curry: Yeah, yeah, typical.
I have a whole bunch of ISO so
I'm just playing you tell me if
you like anything, okay. And
John C Dvorak: I can tell you
this you're gonna win because I
don't have one ISO. guy he has a
rockin brain.
Adam Curry: No, no. Okay, but we
got the facts. We got the facts.
We got the facts. Like that.
Okay, when all else fails ham
radio. No, yeah, no. 100%
Unknown: It's cute. The longer I
talk it's gonna get dumber.
Adam Curry: Okay. Do you like
any of these anything that yeah,
I liked
John C Dvorak: I liked 100% one
and that was the first or second
one I liked the second
Adam Curry: one was
Unknown: the facts that's where
we got the facts. We got the
facts. We got the facts.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, like that
was 100% like those two?
Adam Curry: I think the 100% has
to win because it's 100% Man
100% You know it's 100% 100% we
win.
Unknown: Well, this is weird.
What's happening here?
John C Dvorak: Now your machine
she's blowing up? Yeah, it seems
to be
Unknown: homeless. You know,
this
Adam Curry: is not good. Hold
Unknown: on What happened here
this is very strange. I've
Adam Curry: never had this
happen.
John C Dvorak: It's always
Unknown: good news. It's good.
Advise John C's to give the day.
Adam Curry: Everybody John C.
Dvorak Tip of the Day. I also
have I wanted to do not do a tip
of the day but do a Dutch ism of
the day. So you can do your tip
first if you want. I actually
John C Dvorak: have two tips.
Ones ones. I'm going to do this.
This is going to be a regular
feature. I'm going to do a
product tip every show.
Adam Curry: Okay, as long as
it's not about that drive fixer
which blew up my drive because I
do blame you for that obviously.
John C Dvorak: Of course you
would. Well, first of all, it's
just a bonus tip Mimi sent in.
She says she opened an Amazon
box and then she looked into the
problem. Online. She opened an
Amazon box and I baby cockroach
was inside which she quickly
killed. But she says she
recommends opening Amazon boxes
outside because of this. I guess
a couple of the warehouses are
cockroach infested. Oh,
Unknown: nasty. Yeah,
John C Dvorak: that's a good
tip. That's
Adam Curry: a very good it's a
very handy tip.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, the other
chip is a product tip which is
because Jay has been using this
product to do the scanning of
the checks and the scanning of
the notes and the rest of it.
It's a killer app. It works on
phones iOS, and it also works on
the Android phones. It's called
camed people just look it up
CamScanner now when I was I've
used the cam scanner, Cam
scanner is a terrific product.
And I remember when I was a kid
and I bought when I bought a
copy Stan and you screw a camera
on to it and you had to put the
lights up then you take a
picture of some document or
something you want to scan and
then now scanners regular bed
scanners came out but this it
does the adjusting it does the
focus intake takes care of all
this. It is a fabulous product
and she says she's been using it
since 2017 and works like a
champ. And
Adam Curry: of course all of her
contact details have been shared
all over China. With the with
this free app, free app.
John C Dvorak: Well you can pay
for it too but it's yes she is
the free version of course
Adam Curry: I've used CamScanner
it's good. I wanted to it's a
tip because you can use these in
regular parlance. I first want
to circle back to the co host
door to Carrick. The bullet is
has been shot through the church
you remember that one that Dutch
ism?
John C Dvorak: Yes, we are
trying to deconstruct Yes, yes,
one of us could come up with
anything well, although I had a
theory about Lutheranism, but
this well this.
Adam Curry: So this this is used
as Oh, you know, it's it's
kicking off is kind of the way
it's used as kicking off now.
And the bullet in question was
shot by the Spaniards. It was a
cannonball shot by the Spaniards
in 1573 during the siege of
Harlem, and they shot it right
through the st. BAVO. Carrick,
and you can still see the hole
that it made.
John C Dvorak: They kept it
intact. Well, I
Adam Curry: think they close the
hole up but they have a big
arrow like the hole was here
where it was the hole was here.
Yes. Wow. This is where the
whole 1573 These things have
staying power. Now the one that
was sent to me today, I cannot
believe we have not brought this
up on the show that you can use
this one when something bad has
just happened. And the phrase is
thrown under Khandekar.
John C Dvorak: Which means poop
Unknown: on the marble. Coop no
Adam Curry: poop poop on Lamar
poop poop on the morrow. This
John C Dvorak: is a gay San
Francisco saying it is. No, but
there's plenty of poop on marble
there. Yes.
Adam Curry: And this comes from
the 1700s when kids were playing
marbles, and, and often because
it was like so
Unknown: is about marbles. Yeah,
marble, no marbles, poop on the
marble
Adam Curry: cake. So they were
playing marbles. And it was like
San Francisco back in the
Netherlands in the 1700s. And,
and sometimes they would roll
the marble and it would roll
through the poop. And that's
when it meant Oh, there's poop
on the marble. Something's about
to happen. So you can use this
it's thrown on the clicker. Try
it with me John. strength on the
Connector Group on the kicker
world's
Unknown: gone mad but don't you
worry it's time for a tip of the
day with curry.
John C Dvorak: Brother Okay. We
will be using lossy send me a
couple of phrases that you got
down under you. You
Adam Curry: will be using this
you will be using thrown down
the connector. I guarantee you I
guarantee you. I think we were
gonna end it for today. But we
look forward to seeing you back
here on Thursday as we move
towards Fourth of July. Sunday.
I mean not Sunday, Thursday,
Sunday.
John C Dvorak: I don't know.
Sunday.
Adam Curry: I got bone graft
going on. I'm amazed. I'm still
still sitting
John C Dvorak: here sound fine,
ya know?
Adam Curry: Sure. I feel great.
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John C Dvorak: here from
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mofos or who we hooey and such
Unknown: when he's been
teammates you
we know
nothing Democrats
Adam Curry: i Crazy Stupid
Unknown: much noise talking
about a sign of stupid month
month he doesn't know what he's
talking about. The face national
disasters embarrassment to this
country recently so that this
country has gotten to this point
this this post In this roundup
where he has, he wants to punch
people in the face. Well, I'd
like to punch him in the face
Adam Curry: what people really
should do is just never watch
any news at all. Listen to us
twice a week just listen to us
once a week you'll get all the
news you'll find out what's
going on.
John C Dvorak: It's true.
Unknown: Okay, from the midnight
tweets to drink and bleach Bobby
the zero reading campaigns
providing sound like the leaks
are so endlessly entertained.
You're a joystick jiggler
illegal drugs that becoming
grain that's not me that's no
way you fall Harare evolution
the text from PS five to better
reflect and sorry, maybe uncle
Ted he said it best in the
manifesto saying what he thought
that we would manifest bro once
you introduce the tech
visionaries looking forward
never back the way the SEC trade
offs in cultures that succeed
and flourish. Structure barter
ran a tight family it's how you
nourish now you're adding the MK
yo triples the program down and
change your project name but
leaves OSI up in the culture
Stanford experiments at MIT
Tavistock Institute in CAMH what
do we see? mental hospitals are
the new jails actually they had
bigger numbers and were open
first that means to tell
John C Dvorak: but there was a
little piece of propaganda in
there that I just said
Unknown: when you speak about
and pointing out negativity they
call you a grifter recall you
were butchered now used to be
his
Adam Curry: pride month John
United they got dudes and
dresses it
Unknown: physically crunch and
process all that gigabyte and
that means something
Adam Curry: that is queer care
for you to fall from that Cheeto
dust
Unknown: PLEASE
John C Dvorak: NO NO now it's
like a disaster. And that means
something said Winburn thing
you'll never hear it again.
Adam Curry: Time to make fun
John C Dvorak: blaming on the
black guy. They have to do this
at 82 degrees.
Adam Curry: Bude and fall
excessive heat warnings and
dangerous heat wave it's just
sick
Unknown: sad reporting guys
Adam Curry: you care about
pronouns? That's it. I would say
it's more like sucking up being
a slime ball please. attention
whore get off of carbon and that
means I think we should sell
carbon offsets
really know the difference
between the 92 and 100 LGBTQ
plus healthcare equality high
performer dressed in looks like
a new
Unknown: can people their name
their pronouns using those
correctly?
I got gigabyte going on
physically crunched, just
physically crunch your care.
John C Dvorak: Back there's some
suffering from his warning
pictures
Adam Curry: of Cuba at the beach
to stop us from podcast. It's
about being misgendered
Unknown: resignation really
means
it's just offensive and he went
by there so fast that the women
burn the hell out of the
doctrine
Adam Curry: by going on and that
means something get off the
carbon decompose.
Unknown: MoPhO boruch.org/in A
ya know 100%